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Date: Jun 09, 2005
Who built your prop? Mike Larkin -----Original Message-----
From: owner-aerobatic-list-server(at)matronics.com
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Subject: [acro] Prop Failure CAUSE DETERMINED
My propeller has been inspected by the manufacturer. Apparently the wrong type of thread lock (permatex) was used by the overhaul shop, that assembled it last winter. All of the pin base bolts had lost torque, and the failure occuured as a result of loose bolts on the pin base that failed. The prop is being repaired and the proper thread lock (locktite) is being used. I had noticed one blade seemed a little looser over the last few weeks and had planned to have it looked at by the prop shop on the way to my next show....didn't make it that long :) I would suggest checking the blades by twisting them in pitch and have any looseness inspected. The bottom line is that this was an error in reasssembly by a prop shop and not a problem with the propeller design... Thanks to all who called and wrote... Skip -- -- ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Mark Jefferies" <mark.j(at)yakuk.com>
Subject: hot starts
Date: Jun 26, 2005
Hi, I operate an EA300s with AEIO-540 standard spec and am having difficulty with hot starts. Suggestions appreciated. Currently, priming till no more vapour in injector lines, WOT then rich when it fires and set throttle with pump on. Left Mags has been OH'ed and is up to spec. http://www.yakuk.com/elite.asp is the a/c. Best regards, fly safe-Mark Jefferies For YAK UK Ltd www.yakuk.com Lt Gransden Airfield Sandy, Beds SG19 3BP England. Tel +44 (0)1767 651156. Fax +44 (0)1767 651157 Mobile +44 (0)7785 538 317 Conditions and terms of business Aircraft for sale ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Rick Basiliere" <discrab(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: hot starts
Date: Jun 26, 2005
Hi Mark; Another method I've used is to run the fuel pump with the mixture in idle cut off for say 30 seconds to a minute. This will circulate cool fuel in the lines without putting any in the engine. After this try a normal start. BTW, the smoke system for my Yak-55 is awesome - thanks. Rick -----Original Message----- From: owner-aerobatic-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-aerobatic-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Mark Jefferies Subject: Aerobatic-List: hot starts Hi, I operate an EA300s with AEIO-540 standard spec and am having difficulty with hot starts. Suggestions appreciated. Currently, priming till no more vapour in injector lines, WOT then rich when it fires and set throttle with pump on. Left Mags has been OH'ed and is up to spec. http://www.yakuk.com/elite.asp is the a/c. Best regards, fly safe-Mark Jefferies For YAK UK Ltd www.yakuk.com Lt Gransden Airfield Sandy, Beds SG19 3BP England. Tel +44 (0)1767 651156. Fax +44 (0)1767 651157 Mobile +44 (0)7785 538 317 Conditions and terms of business Aircraft for sale ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Ron Carter" <ronc(at)metropolisdesign.com>
Subject: Re: hot starts
Date: Jun 27, 2005
On my IO-540 c4b5- 1. I leave throttle closed and mixture lean. 2. Run pump to pressurize gauge 3. Crank engine while simultaneously advancing mixture, as soon as you hear a couple pops open throttle slowly. 4. When it catches go full rich with mixture, or advance mixture to your regular ground setting. Cross your fingers! Ron Carter Harmon Rocket II ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Jefferies" <mark.j(at)yakuk.com> Subject: Aerobatic-List: hot starts > > Hi, I operate an EA300s with AEIO-540 standard spec and am having difficulty > with hot starts. Suggestions appreciated. > > > Currently, priming till no more vapour in injector lines, WOT then rich when > it fires and set throttle with pump on. > > > Left Mags has been OH'ed and is up to spec. > > > http://www.yakuk.com/elite.asp is the a/c. > > > Best regards, fly safe-Mark Jefferies > > > For YAK UK Ltd www.yakuk.com > Lt Gransden Airfield > Sandy, Beds > SG19 3BP > England. > Tel +44 (0)1767 651156. > Fax +44 (0)1767 651157 > Mobile +44 (0)7785 538 317 > Conditions and terms of business > Aircraft for sale > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 27, 2005
From: "Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club" <sisson(at)consolidated.net>
Subject: [Fwd: [acro] Ohio Aerobatic Open UNOFFICIAL results]
Here are the scores for the Ohio Contest held over the weekend. The Salem IL contest will be in a month and it is sponsored by chapter 61. Everyone is welcome.There is always a good time. Motels are close by, and camping is permitted on the field... Phil -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [acro] Ohio Aerobatic Open UNOFFICIAL results Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 19:46:16 -0500 From: "Jerry Spear" <jerryspear(at)charter.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: Lorrie Penner <mailto:smuth2(at)yahoo.com> Subject: [acro] Ohio Aerobatic Open UNOFFICIAL results Thanks again to one and all who braved the 90 degree heat and humidity! (Better that than rain). We had a great time, met a lot of new people and flew everyone three times except Primary. Only one short lightening show kept us on the ground for an hour and a half. It was a new place for the Ohio contest and we had a few things to learn, but the net result seems to be that they want us to come back! So, we look forward to seeing you and having our contest in Marysville Ohio (MRT) once again in June 2006! Following are the UNOFFICAL contest Results: Primary Ch Known Free TOTAL %pp% 1.Giles Henderson 61 400.60 413.00 813.60 90.40 2.Craig Henry 1 400.40 399.10 789.50 87.72 3.Tyler Will 373.00 386.00 759.00 84.33 4.Rusty Bogue 377.70 369.20 746.90 82.99 5.John Sollinger 34 372.90 372.20 745.10 82.79 6.Eric Backscheider 34 382.80 341.70 724.50 80.50 7.Elliot Abel 34 343.50 342.60 686.10 76.23 Sportsman Ch Known Free Unknown TOTAL %pp% 1.Gordon Penner 34 1222.60 1270.10 1286.30 3779.00 86.87 2.Joe Haycraft 61 1198.50 1293.40 1236.80 3728.70 85.72 3.Matt Miller - 1247.10 1207.50 1265.30 3719.90 85.51 4.Douglas Lovell 52 1223.50 1228.40 1224.20 3676.10 84.51 5.Michael Wild 34 1207.30 1226.90 1215.30 3649.50 83.90 6. Stan Moye 3 1204.50 1206.80 1219.10 3630.40 83.46 7.Keith Register - 1188.00 1192.50 1249.50 3630.00 83.45 8.Randy Wolfe 34 1159.80 1222.00 1246.30 3628.10 83.40 9.Robert Baker 58 889.40 1111.80 1084.60 3085.80 70.94 10.Greg Kuehner 34 1174.70 1091.30 449.60 2715.60 62.43 11.Ed Larkin 34 1026.90 1190.50 0.00 2217.40 50.97 Intermediate Ch Known Free Unknown TOTAL %pp% 1.Bruce Ballew 61 1768.10 1740.40 1264.00 4772.50 85.22 2.Bob Richards 1 1728.10 1666.40 1263.90 4658.40 83.19 3.Bill Weber 34 1740.50 1684.30 1216.90 4641.70 82.89 4.Jeff Granger 34 1665.50 1719.80 1246.40 4631.70 82.71 5Ashley Messenger 34 1592.70 1683.00 1227.90 4503.60 80.42 6.Wayne Buescher 88 1705.60 1619.90 1169.10 4494.60 80.26 7. Dick MacDonald 88 1333.70 1552.00 962.90 3848.60 68.72 Advanced Ch Known Free Unknown TOTAL %pp% 1.Walter Plentis 88 2118.20 2728.10 2404.40 7250.70 86.83 2.James Hogg 34 2075.80 2625.10 2373.40 7074.30 84.72 3.Steve Johnson 61 2018.50 2639.90 2168.90 6827.30 81.76 4.Rob Bond - 1941.90 2651.60 2179.00 6772.50 81.11 5.Scott Gusakov 88 1812.90 2503.90 2030.60 6347.40 76.02 Unlimited Ch Known Free Unknown TOTAL %pp% 1.Steve Grohsmeyer 11 2387.50 3777.33 3052.00 9216.83 79.46 2.Brett Hunter 34 2435.30 2499.10 2996.70 7931.10 68.37 3.Dennis Thompson 52 2440.70 2890.79 1522.70 6854.19 59.09 4.Hugo Ritzenthaler 88 2275.20 2779.68 1520.80 6575.68 56.69 5.Michael Vaknin 1 2447.80 0.00 2663.10 5110.90 44.06 Lorrie Penner, IAC34 Secretary 513-284-5076 (cell) 513-791-7331(hm) 7628 Plainfield Rd. Cincinnati, OH 45236 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 14, 2005
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: List Digest Truncation Fixed!!
Dear Listers, I finally figured out today what was causing the occasional truncation of the daily List Digest emails. Seems that every once in a while a message would contain a single "." (period) on line all by itself. The mailers would see this and assume that this was the universal emailer signal for "end of message", and consequently wouldn't process any of the rest of the Digest message. I've put in a filter today to remove any of these sequences so we should be back in business on the Digests. Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Admin. Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 14, 2005
From: "Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club" <sisson(at)consolidated.net>
Subject: Oshkosh bound from South Mid-west
If you are going to Oshkosh, you may want to consider a stop at our little small town airport. 3LF http://www.litchfieldil.com/airport/ take a look at the photography, the young eagle links, the pilot info and then.......... stop over here for a night. Gas is guaranteed at $2.85 a gallon (self service, like at the car gas stations). We have a courtesy car ( old chevy, not pretty. but runs good) No, the gas price is not very good, but it is the best we can do and it will be this price on return trip also. We are about 340 or 350 miles straight south of Oshkosh.. On field camping, and motels within 1 mile walk. restarants, bars, Free overnighting and Admin. bulding will be Kept open for rest rooms and what ever. Sleep in there if you want...... Broadband Internet. Pass this information around to the other lists if you dont mind. Bring your tie downs and ropes that you will need in Oshkosh just in case we would have more than eight planes here. There is plenty of grass for tie downs....... Also Chapter 61, Acro contest will be going on that weekend at Salem Illinois.(about 45 miles southeast) Feel free to stop in there for some great competition and partying.... Phil RV6 flown and tore down now for painting............ Sure wish I had a Pitt's to Fly.......... ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 06, 2005
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Matronics Web Server Upgrade Today Tuesday 09/06/05 5pm
PDT Dear Listers, I will be taking the Matronics Web Server down for a few hours today, Tuesday September 6 2005 for a chassis upgrade. Archive browsing and searching along with subscription services will be unavailable for be processed normally during the upgrade. Please check the Matronics System Status Page for updates (although this page resides on the web server and won't be available during the upgrade): http://www.matronics.com/SystemStatus/ Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Admin. Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Brian Fowler" <brianf(at)fowlerssheetmetal.com>
Subject: RE: Aerobatic-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 09/25/05
Date: Sep 26, 2005
Please remove me from the Aerobatic List. Thanks, Brian -----Original Message----- From: owner-aerobatic-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-aerobatic-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Aerobatic-List Digest Server Subject: Aerobatic-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 09/25/05 * ================================================== Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================== Today's complete Aerobatic-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the Aerobatic-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/aerobatic-list/Digest.Aerobatic-List.200 5-09-25.html Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/aerobatic-list/Digest.Aerobatic-List.200 5-09-25.txt ================================================ EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================ Aerobatic-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 09/25/05: 0 Today's Message Index: ---------------------- ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 09, 2005
From: Shasta <shastafly(at)gmail.com>
Subject: will work for flight(s)
To All / Any, I am just a simple girl from the East Coast who likes to go flying, and will be in San Mateo at the end of November (Thanksgiving to December) Does anyone know of a good place to fly from for a visiting enthusiast? Or a good person to fly with? ((my first time upside-down in an airplane was last year in a Giles 202 w/a wicked paint scheme) I'm "mechanically inclined" & will work for flight(s) The last time I was in CA, I got to fly in a T-34 !!! Respectfully, "*Shasta*" *"We are all islands in a common sea" --* Anne Morrow Lindbergh http://www.geocities.com/shasta_fly/ ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 14, 2005
From: "Richard Basiliere" <BasiliereR(at)ci.boulder.co.us>
Subject: M14P for sale
INNOCENT GLOBAL 0.3407 1.0000 -0.4138 I just helped a friend pull a 360 horse M14P off his Sukhoi 26mx. He upgraded to the M14PF is the reason for pulling it. It has 750 hours TTSN, Savage ignition harness, fresh annual conditional inspection, compressions 72-78/80. It has been A+P owned and operated for the last 5 years. It's in "good condition" according to Don. $11,000. contact me off list, please. Don has also made a couple of 1500 psi compressors that operate on 28vdc. He uses them to charge either his Sukhoi or his scuba bottles. $500 each They are small enough (almost) to fit in an Igloo cooler. Also, what is my MTV-3-250 (German) overhauled by MT 2/03 - no ad's now. 330 TSOH worth to any one??? Ok-OK - I bought Don's MTV-9-260 wide cord...mea culpa Thanks, Rick b ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 27, 2005
From: Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd <mark.j(at)yakuk.com>
Subject: FW: Aero GP - 2006 World Series
YAK Club yahoo , YAK USA-list , aerobatic-list(at)matronics.com Jeff Zaltman <jzaltman@aero-gp.com> wrote: From: "Jeff Zaltman" <jzaltman@aero-gp.com> Subject: FW: Aero GP - 2006 World Series Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 12:58:01 -0000 Dear pilots, We spoke in early 2005 about our first Aero GP competition (held in Slovenia), which met with great success! We had worldwide media coverage and our television programme was broadcast on TV in more than 100 countries! In April 2006 our first full world series is beginning and were looking for more pilots to join the tour. Ive attached a brief introduction about it, so if you are interested in competing in the Aero GP series this year please let me know soon. Please forward this to anyone else who might be interested. If not able to join us, we hope that you will still support our new series the ultimate test of pilots in the world and help us promote it I wish you all well and happy flying, Jeff. MORE INFO AT: www.aero-gp.com Jeff Zaltman Managing Director Flying Aces Limited 4th Floor Hamilton House Mabledon Place London UK, WC1H 9BB jzaltman@aero-gp.com +44 (0)207 554 8650 (Office) +44 (0)207 554 8652 (Direct) +44 (0)207 554 8651 (Fax) +44 (0)793 272 6990 (Mob) Best regards, Mark www.yakuk.com +44 (0)1767 651156 office +44 (0)7785 538 317 mobile ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Robert du Plooy" <rduplooy(at)iafrica.com>
Subject: Re: Aerobatic-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 01/02/06
Date: Jan 04, 2006
Please delist me Thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aerobatic-List Digest Server" <aerobatic-list-digest(at)matronics.com> Subject: Aerobatic-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 01/02/06 > * > > ================================================== > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================== > > Today's complete Aerobatic-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the Aerobatic-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/aerobatic-list/Digest.Aerobatic-List.2006-01-02.html > > Text Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/aerobatic-list/Digest.Aerobatic-List.2006-01-02.txt > > > ================================================ > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================ > > > Aerobatic-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Mon 01/02/06: 0 > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > > -- > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "George Maxwell" <geomax(at)grapevine.net>
Subject: Re: Aerobatic-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 01/03/06
Date: Jan 04, 2006
Please delist me from the aerobatic-list. Thank You George Maxwell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aerobatic-List Digest Server" <aerobatic-list-digest(at)matronics.com> Subject: Aerobatic-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 01/03/06 > > * > > ================================================== > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================== > > Today's complete Aerobatic-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the Aerobatic-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/aerobatic-list/Digest.Aerobatic-List.2006-01-03.html > > Text Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/aerobatic-list/Digest.Aerobatic-List.2006-01-03.txt > > > ================================================ > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================ > > > Aerobatic-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Tue 01/03/06: 1 > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 09:22 PM - Re: Aerobatic-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 01/02/06 (Robert du > Plooy) > > > ________________________________ Message 1 > _____________________________________ > > > From: "Robert du Plooy" <rduplooy(at)iafrica.com> > Subject: Aerobatic-List: Re: Aerobatic-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 01/02/06 > > > > Please delist me > Thanks > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Aerobatic-List Digest Server" <aerobatic-list-digest(at)matronics.com> > Subject: Aerobatic-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 01/02/06 > > >> * >> >> ================================================== >> Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive >> ================================================== >> >> Today's complete Aerobatic-List Digest can also be found in either of the >> two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted >> in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes >> and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version >> of the Aerobatic-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor >> such as Notepad or with a web browser. >> >> HTML Version: >> >> >> http://www.matronics.com/digest/aerobatic-list/Digest.Aerobatic-List.2006-01-02.html >> >> Text Version: >> >> >> http://www.matronics.com/digest/aerobatic-list/Digest.Aerobatic-List.2006-01-02.txt >> >> >> ================================================ >> EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive >> ================================================ >> >> >> Aerobatic-List Digest Archive >> --- >> Total Messages Posted Mon 01/02/06: 0 >> >> >> Today's Message Index: >> ---------------------- >> >> >> -- >> >> > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dmagaw(at)att.net
Subject: Re: Aerobatic-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 01/03/06
Date: Jan 04, 2006
Why don't you follow the instructions from the list and delete yourself. Dave -------------- Original message from "George Maxwell" : -------------- > > Please delist me from the aerobatic-list. > Thank You > George Maxwell > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Aerobatic-List Digest Server" > To: "Aerobatic-List Digest List" > Subject: Aerobatic-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 01/03/06 > > > > > > * > > > > ================================================== > > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > > ================================================== > > > > Today's complete Aerobatic-List Digest can also be found in either of the > > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > > of the Aerobatic-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > > > HTML Version: > > > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/aerobatic-list/Digest.Aerobatic-List.2006-01-03. > html > > > > Text Version: > > > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/aerobatic-list/Digest.Aerobatic-List.2006-01-03. > txt > > > > > > ================================================ > > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > > ================================================ > > > > > > Aerobatic-List Digest Archive > > --- > > Total Messages Posted Tue 01/03/06: 1 > > > > > > Today's Message Index: > > ---------------------- > > > > 1. 09:22 PM - Re: Aerobatic-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 01/02/06 (Robert du > > Plooy) > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 1 > > _____________________________________ > > > > > > From: "Robert du Plooy" > > Subject: Aerobatic-List: Re: Aerobatic-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 01/02/06 > > > > > > > > Please delist me > > Thanks > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Aerobatic-List Digest Server" > > Subject: Aerobatic-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 01/02/06 > > > > > >> * > >> > >> ================================================== > >> Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > >> ================================================== > >> > >> Today's complete Aerobatic-List Digest can also be found in either of the > >> two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > >> in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > >> and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > >> of the Aerobatic-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > >> such as Notepad or with a web browser. > >> > >> HTML Version: > >> > >> > >> > http://www.matronics.com/digest/aerobatic-list/Digest.Aerobatic-List.2006-01-02. > html > >> > >> Text Version: > >> > >> > >> > http://www.matronics.com/digest/aerobatic-list/Digest.Aerobatic-List.2006-01-02. > txt > >> > >> > >> ================================================ > >> EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > >> ================================================ > >> > >> > >> Aerobatic-List Digest Archive > >> --- > >> Total Messages Posted Mon 01/02/06: 0 > >> > >> > >> Today's Message Index: > >> ---------------------- > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why don't you follow the instructions from the list and delete yourself. Dave -------------- Original message from "George Maxwell" geomax(at)grapevine.net: -------------- -- Aerobatic-List message posted by: "George Maxwell" Please delist me from the aerobatic-list. Thank You George Maxwell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aerobatic-List Digest Server" <AEROBATIC-LIST-DIGEST(at)MATRONICS.COM> To: "Aerobatic-List Digest List" Subject: Aerobatic-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 01/03/06 * Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive Today's complete Aerobatic-List Dige st can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the Aerobatic-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/aerobatic-list/Digest.Aerobatic-List.2006-01-03. html Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/aerobatic-list/Digest.Aerobatic-List.2006-01-03. txt EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive =================================== Aerobatic-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 01/03/06: 1 Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 09:22 PM - Re: Aerobatic-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 01/02/06 (Robert du Plooy) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ From: "Robert du Plooy" <RDUPLOOY(at)IAFRICA.COM> Subject: Aerobatic-List: Re: Aerobatic-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 01/02/06 -- Aerobatic-List message posted by: "Robert du Plooy" Please delist me Thanks ----- Original Message -- --- From: "Aerobatic-List Digest Server" <AEROBATIC-LIST-DIGEST(at)MATRONICS.COM> Subject: Aerobatic-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 01/02/06 * Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive Today's complete Aerobatic-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the Aerobatic-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/aerobatic-list/Digest.Aerobatic-List.2006-01-02. html Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/aerobatic-list/Digest.Aerobatic-List.2006-01-02. txt EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive Aerobatic-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 01/02/06: 0 Today's Message Index: ---------------------- --
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Date: Jan 09, 2006
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: All New BBS Interface For Matronics List Forums!
Dear Listers, I'm very proud to announce a completely new BBS interface is now available for all of the Email Lists at Matronics! This is a full-featured system that allows for viewing, posting, attachments, polls - the works. But the best part is that it is *completely* integrated with all of the existing email tools currently available at Matronics! What this means at the most basic level is that, if you post a message to List from Email in the traditional way, it will show up on the BBS system *and* get distributed to everyone currently subscribed to the Email List. By the same token, if you are on the BBS and post a message to a given List-Forum, the message will not only show up on the BBS, but also be distributed to everyone on the Email List!! It is really a very nice implementation and I am very pleased with its operation. All of the tools you have come to know and love such as the List Search Engine and List Browse and Download will still be available and contain all of the latest posts. Think of the new BBS interface as just another method of accessing the all of the Lists. You can use the BBS to view all of the latest posts without having to do anything except use your browser to surf over to the site. You can view and look at all of the various List's posts. If you want to post a new message or reply to an existing message from the BBS, you will have to Register on the BBS. This is a *very* simple process and will only take a couple of minutes. There is a small icon in the upper righthand side of the main BBS page labeled "Register" to get you started. I strongly recommend that you use the exact *same* email address you are subscribed to the Email Lists with when registering on the BBS. Also, while not an absolute requirement, I would really appreciate it if people would use their full name when choosing their Username on the BBS (for example "Matt Dralle"). This just makes it easier for everyone to know who's posting. Also, I have enabled the ability to upload a small user picture with your profile called an "avatar". Please use a *real* picture of yourself *with* your cloths on! Thank you! Maximum size of the bitmap is 120x120. You can either be subscribed to the BBS, or any number of Email Lists, or both. Registering on the BBS will allow you to email directly to all of the various Lists. However, to receive direct List Email, you will need to be *subscribed* to the various Lists as you have in the past. No changes here in operation. I have added numerous links on the BBS pointing to the Email List subscription page. I've had the BBS connected to the Lists for about a week now, so its already loaded up with a fair number of messages. You can post photos and other documents directly to the BBS and links to them will appear in the List Email distributions. Also, when any messages posted to the BBS are viewed in the List Email distribution, there will be a URL link at the bottom of the message pointing back to the BBS. And here's what you've been waiting for -- the main URL for the new Matronics Email List BBS is: http://forums.matronics.com Please surf on over, Register, and have a great time! I think this will be the dawn of a whole new era for the Lists at Matronics! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 29, 2006
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Six New Email Lists / Forums At Matronics!
Dear Listers, Its my pleasure to announce the addition of six new Email List / Forums to the aviation line up at Matronics! These new lists support all the usual features you've come to know and love from the Matronics Email List including full integration with the All New Web BBS Forums Site!! The new Lists include: LycomingEngines-List Textron/Lycoming Engines RotaxEngines-List Rotax Engine for Aircraft M14PEngines-List Vendenyev M14P Radial Engine MurphyMoose-List Murphy Moose Aircraft Allegro-List Allegro 2000, a Czech-built, Rotax-powered Aircraft Falco-List Sequoia Aircraft's Falco Experimental To sign up for any or all of the new Lists, surf over to the Matronics Email List Subscription Form and follow the instructions: http://www.matronics.com/subscribe Don't forget to check out the All New Web BBS Forum now available along with all of the usual message and archive viewing tools at the Matronics Email Lists site. Surf over to the following URL for information on the BBS Forum: http://forums.matronics.com Enjoy the new Lists! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Apr 01, 2006
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Matronics Email List Wiki!
Dear Listers, I have added a new feature to the Email List Forums at Matronics called a Wiki. What's "Wiki" you ask? A Wiki is a website. You go to it and browse just like you would any other web site. The difference is, you can change it. You can put anything you want on this web site without having to be a web designer or even being the owner. You can write a new page just like writing an email message on the BBS. You don't need to send it off to anyone to install on the site. It is kind of like a Blog (weblog) in which anyone can post. Here is a great page on where the term Wiki came from and what it means in the context of a website: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki So on to the new Matronics List Wiki... I've created this site for anyone from any of the Email Lists to use. I envision that there are a great many things that can be added to this new Wiki since there are always new and interesting tidbits of useful information traversing the Lists. Off the main Matronics List Wiki page, you will find a link called "Community Portal". Here you will find more links to stubs for all the various Lists found at Matronics (and a few other links). Brian Lloyd others of Yak-List have already been busy adding content in a number of areas. Bob Nuckolls of AeroElectric fame has added a great article on "Ageing Aircraft". I have discussed the new Matronics Email List Wiki with Tedd McHenry and Dwight Frye of the RV Wiki Site and they have decided to merge their site over onto the new Matronics Wiki server giving everyone a single source for information on RV building and flying! This migration will begin today and you should be able to find all of the content currently found at www.rvwiki.org moved over to the Matronics Wiki within a few days. To make edits to the Matronics Wiki, you will need to have a login account on the Matronics Wiki and have disabled anonymous edits. This protects the Wiki site from automated spam engines and other nuisances that could compromise the data at the site. Signing up for an account is fast and easy and begins by clicking on the "create an account or log in" link in the upper right hand corner of any page. Note that you do not have to have a login or be logged in to view any of the content. The Matronics Email List Wiki is YOUR Wiki! It is only as useful as the content found within. The concept of the Wiki is that the people the use it update it. If you've got an interesting procedure for doing something, MAKE A WIKI PAGE ON IT! You can even upload pictures. Saw something interesting at a flyin? MAKE A WIKI PAGE ON IT! Don't be shy, this is YOUR site to share information with others with similar interests. Here is a users guide on using the Wiki implemented at Matronics: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_User's_Guide This gives a lot of great information on how to get started editing pages. And finally, here is the URL for the Matronics Email List Wiki: http://wiki.matronics.com Brian Lloyd has written an excellent introduction to Wikis on the front page. I encourage you to read it over, then drill into the "Community Portal" and HAVE FUN!! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Fuse availability
From: "jack lucas" <flyguy6a(at)aol.com>
Date: Apr 09, 2006
What follows is a message from a Paul Messenger's new Yahoo List concerning in-flight availablity of fuses, etc. which seems to counter advice given in Bob's book regarding in-flight availability of these devices. Any comments on this posting greatly appreciated, as I am confused. Jack Lucas[/color] Message: 1 Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 13:26:14 -0700 From: "Paul Messinger" Subject: ILLEGAL EQUIPMENT Perhaps I need to point out a few very common misconceptions that can get you grounded at best and void your aircraft insurance at worst. My only purpose is to inform you. Fuses for equipment essential for the flight conditions MUST be replaceable in flight. I question why anything is on a small single engine aircraft that is not essential to flight. For example if a radio or light or heated pitot etc is requires for the flight conditions taken they must be pilot accessible and spares on board. Strobes must meet the FAR's if they are required for a specific flight condition. AeroFlash DO NOT MEET FARS. They are grandfathered for older type certificated aircraft NOT new TC or experimental aircraft. That they are sold for experimentals means they are ONLY legal when the flight condition does not require them. This after personally speaking to the President of Aeroflash some years ago. Ever wonder why production aircraft come out with new models of an old design where ever possible? Its to take advantage of grandfathering and thus allow lower quality/cost equipment to be used as well as far lower certification requirements. Recognition lights must also meet FARs when required. There are several LED recognition lights being sold as meeting the FARs but they do not. Like the AeroFlash strobes you are being mislead. But at least the AeroFlash is reasonably close (1/2) as bright where the LED's are far short of the required coverage. Soon perhaps but not at present. Whelan has just started with one light and look at the price of the first attempt! Lets say you have fuses in your recognition light system and the fuse opens during a night flight and you land at an airport with no lights and there happens to be a FAA inspector on the ground and he walks over and inquired and finds out the fuse must have blown and its not accessible in flight. Your C of A can be rescinded and you can be sited with a violation. If your insurance Co finds out your insurance is most likely voided. Or you have an totally unrelated (to lighting or fuses) accident and it comes out you have unapproved lights, fuses, etc. your insurance Co can and has in some cases voided the insurance as there is a clause covering the requirement to meet all applicable FARS. I have discussed this with both the FAA FSDO and my insurance company so its not just an opinion. As far as lights/strobes etc I want the brightest available and the multi flash is the most attention getter I know of. See and Be seen can be a life saver. Its a few hundred bucks more to get the best and a drop in the bucket in a 60,000-150,000 aircraft. "But the DAR signed off on my installation so it must be legal". That sign off only means its likely in compliance for day VFR and the Pilot is responsible (not the builder if different) to assure the aircraft fully meets all requirements of the intended flight. One of my pet peeves, sorry for the outburst :-) Paul Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=27235#27235 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 22, 2006
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Matronics BBS Forums
Hello Listers, I just wanted to send out a reminder to all of the Listers regarding the new-ish BBS (Bulletin Board System) Forums that are available at Matronics for the Email Lists. The BBS Forums give you Web-based access into the same email content that is generated by the Email Lists. When an email message is posted to any of the email lists, a copy of the message is also copied to the respective List forum section on in the BBS Forums. By the same token, when a message is posted within the BBS Forum interface context, it will also be posted to the respective email list. Basically, the BBS Forums give you yet another method of accessing the Matronics Email List content. Some people prefer email, some prefer web forums; now you can have it either way or both with the Matronics Lists! You'll have to register for a login/password on the BBS Forum to _post_ from the BBS, but you can view message content without registering for an account. To Register for an account, look for the link at the top of the main BBS Forum page entitled "Register". Click on it and follow the instructions. Site Administrator approval will be required (to keep spammers out), but I will try to get these approved in less than 24 hours. If you haven't yet taken a look at the Matronics Email List content over on the BBS Forum, surf on over and take a peek. Its pretty cool. The URL is: http://forums.matronics.com I want to stress that the BBS Forums are simply an adjunct to the existing Matronics Email Lists; another way of viewing and interacting with the Matronics List content. If you like Email, great. If you like Web Forums, great. If you like both, great. Its up to you how you view and create your content. You will also find a URL link at the bottom of this email called Matronics List Features Navigator. You can click on this link at any time to find URL links to all of the other great features available on the Matronics site like the Archive Search Engine, List Browse, List Download, FAQs, Wiki, and lots more. There is a specific Navigator for each Email List and the link for this specific List is shown below. Thanks for all the great list participation and support; it is greatly appreciated! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 29, 2006
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Two New Email Lists at Matronics and Wiki Reminder!
Dear Listers, I have added two new email Lists to the Matronics Line up today. These include a Continental engine List and a Lightning aircraft List: =========== continental-list(at)matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Continental-List Everything related to the Continental aircraft engine. Sky's the limit on discussions here. =========== =========== lightning-list(at)matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List This is an exciting new design from Arion Aircraft LLC in Shelbyville Tennessee. Pete Krotje has a very nice web site on the aircraft that can be found here: http://www.arionaircraft.com/ =========== Also, if you haven't checked out the new Matronics Aircraft Wiki, swing by and have a look. Remember, a Wiki is only as good as the content that the members put into it. Have a look over some of the sections, and if you've got some interesting or useful, please add it to the Wiki! Its all about YOU! :-) The URL for the Matronics Wiki is: http://wiki.matronics.com Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 03, 2006
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: List Enclosure Support
Dear Listers, Over the years, I have resisted the urge to enable enclosure support on the Matronics Lists for a number of reasons relating to performance, capacity, capability, and security. However, its now 2006 and most everyone using email these days is on an email client that, at some level, supports the viewing and handling of enclosures. I get a fair amount of email each month from people on the various Lists asking why their posts of this or that picture didn't go through. Back quite a while ago by popular request, I enabled enclosure support for a few Lists such as the RV10-List, Kolb-List, and the Tailwind-List. Contrary to my fears, there really hasn't been any significant issues on these Lists relating to the advent of enclosure support and for the most part, members have policed themselves well with respect to the size of things they have posted. Having enclosures enabled on some Lists and not others has given me a fair amount of headaches with respect to filtering messages and content since the formats are often quite different between a typical MIME encoded message and a generic plain-text message. The spammers are getting more cleaver all the time and are constantly trying to thwart my best efforts at keeping them from posting to the Lists. So, for these reasons, I've have decided to go ahead and enable limited enclosure posting on all of the email Lists at Matronics. This will not only increase the utility of the Lists, but will afford me a better opportunity to filter out the chaff. Here are some of the features and limits of enclosures on the Matronics Lists: 1) Enclosures will only be posted to the Real Time version of the Lists. 2) Enclosures will NOT be included in the Daily Digest version of the Lists. 3) Enclosures WILL BE forwarded on to the BBS Forum Web site. 4) Enclosures will NOT be appended to the Archives. 5) Enclosures will NOT be available in the List Browse feature. 6) Only the following file types and extensions will be allowed: jpg, bmp, gif, txt, xls, pdf, and doc All other enclosures types will be rejected and email returned to sender. The enclosure types listed above are relatively safe from a virus standpoint and don't pose a particularly large security risk. 7) !! All incoming enclosures will be scanned for viruses prior to posting to the List. This is done in real time and will not slow down the process of posting the message !! Here are some rules for posting enclosures. Failure to abide by these rules could result in the removal of a subscriber's email address from the Lists. 1) Pay attention to what you are posting!! Make sure that the files you are enclosing aren't HUGE (greater that 1MB). Remember that there are still people checking they're email via dial up modem. If you post 30MB worth of pictures, you are placing an unnecessary burden on these folks and the rest of us, for that matter. 2) SCALE YOUR PICTURES DOWN!!! I don't want to see huge 3000 x 2000 pictures getting posted that are 3 or 4MB each. This is just unacceptable. Use a program such as Photoshop to scale the picture down to something on the order of 800 x 600 and try to keep the file size to less-than 200KB, preferably much less. Microsoft has a really awesome utility available for free that allows you to Right-Click on a picture in Explorer and automatically scale it down and resave it. This is a great utility - get it, use it! http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx Look for the link "Image Resizer" 3) !! This would seem to go without saying, but I'll say it anyway. Do not post anything that would be considered offensive by your grandmother. And you know what I'm saying; I don't want to see anything even questionable. !! 4) REMEMBER THIS: If you post a 1MB enclosure to a List with 1000 members subscribed, your 1MB enclosure must be resent 1000 times amounting to 1MB X 1000 = 1 Gigabyte of network traffic!! BE CAREFUL and BE COURTEOUS! I hope everyone will enjoy the added functionality of enclosures. Please police yourself and use good judgement when posting messages with enclosures using the guidelines I've outlined above. Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Date: Jul 31, 2006
Subject: Matronics Email List Web Server Upgrade Tonight...
Dear Listers, This evening I will be upgrading the Matronics Web Server hardware to a new Quad-processor 2.8Ghz Xeon system (yes, 4-physical CPUs!) with an Ultra 320 SCSI Raid 5 disk system and 5GB of DDR2 RAM. As with the older system, the new system will be running the latest version of Redhat Linux. Most of the software configuration work is already done for the migration, but I still have to sync all of the archive and forum data from the old system to the new system. I am anticipating about 2 to 3 hours of downtime for me to fully make the transition, although it could be considerable less if everything goes according to plan. The Matronics Webserver will be *UNavailable* from the Internet during the work, and you will receive a time-out if you try to connect during the upgrade. Email List Distribution will be *available* during the upgrade of the Web Server, and List message distribution will function as normal. This represents a significant performance upgrade for the Matronics Web Server and you should notice nicely improved searching and surfing performance following the upgrade! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 06, 2006
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: New Incoming Message Size Limit Implemented...
Dear Listers, Due to a number of requests to limit the size of incoming posts to the Lists because of the recently added enclosure feature, I have add a new filter that will limit the total size of any given message posted to the List. I have initially set the limit to 2MB and we'll see how everyone likes that. If a member attempts to post a message that is greater than the set limit, they will receive an email back indicating that their message wasn't posted to the List and why. Also included in the message will be the current size limit and how large their message was. Some might say that 2MB is still too large, but its a place to start... Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Alisia Campbell" <alisiakay(at)msn.com>
Subject: Please Unsubscribe Me!
Date: Sep 04, 2006
----- Original Message ----- From: Aerobatic-List Digest Server Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 2:05 AM Subject: Aerobatic-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 09/03/06 * ======================== Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ======================== Today's complete Aerobatic-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the Aerobatic-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/aerobatic-list/Digest.Aerobatic-List. 2006-09-03.html Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/aerobatic-list/Digest.Aerobatic-List. 2006-09-03.txt ====================== EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive ====================== ---------------------------------------------------------- Aerobatic-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 09/03/06: 0 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: G meter
From: "Dennis Jones" <djones(at)northboone.net>
Date: Sep 18, 2006
Does anyone have the install manual to the EZE Instruments G Spot G meter model number GS95-A. The company no longer carries the manual for this particular meter. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=62295#62295 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 04, 2006
From: Mark Sorenson <marksorenson(at)sprintpcs.com>
Subject: Oct 7th Fly-in
Our annual chapter BBQ is fast approaching. As mentioned in the newsletter, on the date of our next scheduled practice -- October 7th, 2006 -- we will meet at Big T in Senoia,GA for food, fellowship, and flying, though not necessarily in that order. Mark Sorenson and Butch Walker will host this gathering which promises to be a great time! Come out and join the fun. Date/Time: 10/7/2006, 10:00 arrival at the earliest; ending late afternoon. Invited: All chapter members, family, friends, Big T neighbors, aerobatic enthusiasts (especially if they might want to join!) Fly in, drive, walk, whatever. Food: Grilled stuff; probably hamburgers, hot dogs, etc. Gas: Some gas will be available, but no cheaper than Tara. Flying: There is space next to the field for practice and critiquing will be available, but there is NO WAIVERED AIRSPACE at Big T. Mark has offered to place cones to mark center field and 500 ft. to the end of the runway (it's 2200ft long). If you decide you don't want to land there, Tara and Falcon are not far away. For more information on the field and how to get there, try Skyvector. Search for 64GA in the Airport/VOR/Fix box. Map will center on Big T and provide current METAR info for nearby reporting stations. For field information, Airnav is a good source. It has an aerial picture of the strip and lots of runway and navaid info. 122.85 is the field freq. Left hand traffic for Rwy 34 and Right Hand traffic for Rwy 16. For any field-related questions, call Mark at 678-463-5944. If you are driving, Google Maps should help. If you have questions, please contact Tim Walter via e-mail (president(at)iac3.org) or 678-406-0620. Looking forward to seeing everyone there! ------------------ Best Regards, Mark- 678-GO-FLY-HI-lander aircraft -------------------- Sprint PCS Mail ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 29, 2006
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Comcast Was Blocking Matronics Email Lists...
Dear Listers (Specifically Comcast Listers), For about the last two days, Comcast was blocking incoming email from the Matronics Email Lists because their spam filters thought the mail was spam. I was that people on Comcast are receiving List messages again. If you are a Comcast user, you might want to email them and express your displeasure with their Spam blocking policy, particularly as it relates to "matronics.com". Sorry for the hassle... Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Admin Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 01, 2006
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Matronics Email List Fund Raiser - November!
Dear Listers, Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operation and upgrade of the List services at Matronics. It's through these sole Contributions of List members that these Matronics Lists are possible. You have probably noticed that there are no banner ads or pop-up windows on any of the Matronics Lists or related web sites such as the Forums site ( http://forums.matronics.com ), Wiki site ( http://wiki.matronics.com ), or other related pages such as the List Search Engine ( http://www.matornics.com/search ), List Browse ( http://www.matornics.com/listbrowse ), etc. This is because I believe in a List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely Airplanes and not about annoying advertisments. During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every few days reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. Each message will generally highlight a particular feature or benefit of the Matronics Lists or detail a new feature or service that was added this year. I ask for your patience and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages. The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all of the bills associated with running these lists. Once again, this year I've got a terrific line up of free gifts to go along with the various Contribution levels. Most all of these gifts have been provided by some of the vary members and vendors that you'll find on Matronics Lists and have been either donated or provided at substantially discounted rates. This year, these generous people include Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric Connection (http://www.aeroelectric.com/), Paul Besing of Aeroware Enterprises aka Kitlog Pro (http://www.kitlog.com/), Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore (http://www.buildersbooks.com/), and Jon Croke of HomebuiltHELP (http://www.homebuilthelp.com/). These are extremely generous guys and I encourage you to visit their respective web sites. Each one offers a unique and very useful aviation-related product line. I would like publicly to thank Bob, Paul, Andy, and Jon for their generous support of the Lists again this year!! You can make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods this year including using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. All three methods afford you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying Contribution amount!! To make your Contribution, please visit the secure site below: https://www.matronics.com/contribution I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral support over the years. I know it sounds a little cliche, but you guys really do feel like family. Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 03, 2006
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Have You Tried The New Matronics List Forum?
Hello Listers, One of the major new additions to the Matronics Email Lists this year was the addition of a new and full function Forum Web Site at: http://forums.matronics.com The best part of these new Forums is that they are tied directly to the Classic email distribution Lists! That also means that posts go in both directions. If you post a message on the Forum web site, it will be cross posted to the respective Email List. And, if you post a message to a particular Email List, it will be cross posted to the same respective forum on the Forum site! So, no matter what your content viewing pleasure is - either direct email distribution or web-based GUI interface, you can have it at the Matronics Email Lists! Won't you make a Contribution to support these Lists? It is your SOLE Contributions that make their continued operation and upgrade possible! The Contribution site is Fast, Easy, and Secure. Please surf over and make your Contribution today: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you!! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator _- _- _- _- _- _- ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 06, 2006
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Wow, Cool! New List Feature... [Please Read]
Dear Listers, By popular suggestion, I've written a substantial new code module for the Matronics Email Lists system. Here's how it works... During each November, I send out quite a few PBS-like "Please make a Contribution to support your List" emails. Wouldn't it be cool if, once a member made a Contribution, they didn't have to receive my support pleas anymore for the rest of that year? Well, that's exactly what I've written! Following this posting, anyone that makes a List Contribution in 2006 will no longer receive my Contribution Pleas for the rest of the year! The best part is this not only applies to the Realtime distribution, but also the Digest distribution! For those that have made a Contribution, the Daily Digest email-version will be invisibly stripped of my requests as well! (Note that my requests will still be present in the online versions of the Digests, List Browse, and on the Forum site.) For those submitting their Contribution by personal Check, please be sure to include your email address along with your Check as this is what is used to determine eligibility. So, in a nutshell, here's how it works: Make a Contribution = No more "Please Make a Contribution" messages! How sweet is that? If that's not a great reason to jump on the Matronics Email List Contribution site and make your donation today, I don't know what is! Don't forget that there are some totally awesome free gifts to be had along with your List Contribution this year!! Don't wait a minute longer to support your Lists! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you for your Support!! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 08, 2006
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: If You Got This Email, You Haven't Made A Contribution
Yet! :-) If you received this particular Matronics List Email message, its because you haven't yet made a Contribution to support your Lists! This is the first PBS-like funds drive message under the new distribution system. The new system selectively sends out the Contribution messages ONLY to those that forgot to whip out the 'ol credit card this year to support the continued operation and upgrade of the Matronics Email Lists! Don't you wish PBS worked that way? :-) You heard that right. Once you make your Contribution, these support requests messages during November will suddenly stop coming to your personal email inbox! Pardon me if I seem kind of excited about the new feature. I've wanted to implement something like this for a number of years now, but it was always such a daunting task to modify the back-end List processing code, that I just kept putting it off. Finally this year, I just decided to bite the bullet and put the code-pounding time it to make it work. A few days later, bam! A working system! Anyway, I'll stop gushing now. I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware and software that are required to run a List Site like this. It also goes to pay for the Commercial-Grade Internet connection and to pay the rather huge electric bill to keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered up. Your personal Contribution matters because when combined with other Listers such as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up and running. I accept exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand the pop-up ads and all other commercialism that is so prevalent on the Internet these days and I particularly don't want to have it on my Email List site. I'm pretty sure you don't either. If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email Lists, please make a Contribution today to keep it that way!! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 08, 2006
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Clarification On New Contribution Module Operation...
Dear Listers, A number of Listers emailed and indicated that, even though they had made a Contribution this year, they still received the Contribution message yesterday. I looked into it and I found a slight anomaly (ok, bug) in the new code specifically as it related to Listers that had made their Contribution through PayPal AND have a DIFFERENT email address for their PayPal account and for their Matronics List subscription. If your PayPal account email address is DIFFERENT than the email address you are subscribed to the Matronics List(s) as, then my new code module couldn't tell that you had made a Contribution, since it was using the PayPal email address instead of the List email. I've fixed this issue for any new PayPal Contributions, but I don't have any easy way of resolving this for any of the previous Contribtuions. Again, this is ONLY an issue if your PayPal and Matronics List email addresses ARE NOT the same. Otherwise, everything works great. If you made a PayPal Contribution before 11/09/06 AND your email addresses don't match, please drop me an email at " info(at)matronics.com " (do not reply to this message!) and give me your Name, and both Email Addresses and I will manually update the records so that things will work as advertised. Sorry for the hassle! New code; new bugs... :-) To make a Contribution, please see: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administration ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 10, 2006
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Wiki...
Dear Listers, I added a new Wiki web site to the Matronics Email List features earlier this year. What's a Wiki, you ask? Well, here's the Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki) definition: A wiki (IPA: [ w .ki ] or [ wi .ki ] ) is a type of Web site that allows the visitors themselves to easily add, remove, and otherwise edit and change some available content, sometimes without the need for registration. This ease of interaction and operation makes a wiki an effective tool for collaborative authoring. The term wiki also can refer to the collaborative software itself (wiki engine) that facilitates the operation of such a Web site, or to certain specific wiki sites, including the computer science site (an original wiki), WikiWikiWeb, and on-line encyclopedias such as Wikipedia. Under the Matronics Email List Moniker, there is now a very nice List-specific Wiki available! It a place for Listers to put articles about any aviation topic that suits them. The purpose is to provide what the mailing lists do not: structure and persistence. The mailing lists are a fantastic resource to ask a question and get good (and bad and funny and annoying) answers. But once the question is asked and answered it is not in front of the List anymore. If a new person subscribes the next day, he/she does not see that information unless he/she goes to the trouble to search the archives, a hit or miss proposition. The result is that the same thread of conversation gets created and/or revisited. There are several things that happen as a result: 1. The person gets his or her question answered; 2. The information gets better as more people think about and answer the question; 3. The people who have seen the same question asked and answered get annoyed at seeing the same things over and over and over and ... So this is where the Wiki comes in. You know what questions you wanted answered. You may have asked or answered the question. You know the information is useful. So you put the information here, in the Matronics Email List Wiki! It doesn't matter that this information is 100% complete or correct. Just writing something creates a placeholder and makes useful information available immediately. It has the same immediacy as the mailing list but it has persistence and structure. But what if the information is incomplete or incorrect? No problem! Anyone else coming along can edit the article! If I write something and you discover something I have left out or stated incorrectly, you can fix it right then! So let's begin and make this the place for information about building, flying, maintaining, and understanding our airplanes. But what about whether something is "appropriate" or not? Don't worry. Write it down. Let the reader determine whether or not it is appropriate. If it is, he/she will read it. If it isn't, he/she won't. It's as simple as that. And when you do write that article you won't have to worry about whether some editor is going to decide whether or not to print it in a newsletter or whether the webmaster will have time to put it up on the web page. The last question I hear brewing out there is: if anyone can post anything, won't this just become a mass of garbage? Surprisingly, the answer is a resounding no. If you want proof, go visit the Wikipedia, a free-to-everyone encyclopedia written by whoever wants to write articles. The articles there are as good as anything I have read anywhere and anyone can add anything anytime they want to. So don't hesitate. Write it down. Put it here. It will never hurt anyone. The more information we get here, the more useful it will become to other people and the more information they will put here for YOU to use. Here's the URL to start (there are lots more bured under this starting place): http://www.matronics.com/wiki/index.php/Matronics:Community_Portal But please don't forget that this Wiki and all of the other Matronics Email List features are supported solely by YOUR Contributions!! November is List Fund Raiser month and there are lots of Free Gifts to be had with your qualifying Contribution. Please make a Contribution to support the continued operation and upgrade of these great services!!! Thank you! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 13, 2006
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: WLAS [Please Read]
Dear Listers, I sat down at the 'ol computer tonight to have a look at a few of the nice comments List Members have been including along with their Contributions this year. I was amazed at how many I found and even more amazed at some of the very nice things Listers have been saying about the Lists and how valuable the they are to them. I've included quite a few of these nice comments below. Please read over some of this great Lister feedback. No doubt you will find that you agree with at least one or two of those comments - maybe all of them! If you find that do, won't you please make a Contribution to support these Lists today!! Its fast and easy with the Matronics List Contribution Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Don't forget that I've now fully implemented the new *List Fund Raiser Squelch* feature that will automatically intercept any future iterations of my "Please Contribute" messages -- that is, *once you've made YOUR Contribution*! How cool is that? (Make sure the email address you enter along with your Contribution matches exactly your subscribed List email address. An exact match is how it works.) Thank you for your generous Contributions this year and for all the wonderful comments!! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ================= What Listers Are Saying (WLAS) ================ Absolutely the best deal on the Internet!! -Owen B I love The Matronics... -Robeto B My wife has her soaps & I've got my lists! -Hal B These lists are, indeed, the lifeline of our hobby. -Bob R The best source of information for my a/c. -Tony C The Zenith list is the first thing I read in the morning. -Herbert H You do more good than you can imagine. I wish I'd known about you while I was building my Kitfox, but you are still an after-the-fact resource. -Ben B ..an excellent site. -Ashley M The "List" has been the ultimate help for my Zenith CH 701 project!! -Brian U I appreciate the list being here for me. -Geoff H ..a great service. -William C The List continues to be an interesting and useful facility. -David M Your list is a constant goad to keep me working on my project. -Thomas S ..a great service. -Robert W The Pietenpol list is a great resource. -Benjamin W The Yak-list is Awesome! -James S ..great service. -Robert S The features you have implemented recently have you poised to knock out yahoo groups... -Danny D I like how your forum looks/works and the list service... -Ken E ..great service. -David P Very useful web site. -Wayne E ..a very valuable service. -Chris D Great sites... -Randall R I used to look at [that other] site also but it's gotten so cluttered with advertising that I've stopped looking at it. -Wayne E Without your services, the build would be a grope in the dark... -Fergus K The information and help I've received greatly outweighs the donation... -Lee P ..great service! -Christopher D I really don't think I could be building my plane without the wisdom I find on this list. -William G It really makes building a pleasure. -James P ..great service. -Doug W I'm getting near the end of my build (Europa tri XS) don't think I could have done it with out the help of the forum. -Stanislaus S Marvelous service. Couldn't have done it without you. -Jim G Love the list, this is a wonderful way to help others... -Michael S ..good service. -Derek L The list is responsible for helping me complete this project and educating me in the process. -Jeff D Definitely worth the donation. -Ron L ..great service to the aviation community. -Tony P I have been flying my plane for 5 years (RV-6) but I still get valuable information from this service. -Don N A very helpful site. -Roland S It's a great community to be part of. -David L Great sites. -John C A great place to find and share not only information but to meet people across the country and make lasting relationships. -Uncle Craig Great facility. -Peter H Its a great source of information! -Michael W Great improvements to the List... -Edward A Great service!!! -Rich D ..great resource! -William C ..excellent lists! -Michael S Couldn't have built my RV4 without the list. -Warren M ..a great service... -James N I would not have missed [the list] for anything during the building of my Europa. -Svein J ..another great year. -Robert D ..this [is an] essential builder's resource. -David A ..excellent service. -Gregory B I've learned a huge amount of "stuff" over the past year and look forward to it every day! -Smith M ..a great communication tool... -Jon M Finished building 5 years ago, but still are lurking on your great list! -Lothar K ..a valuable service. At 11:00 pm Matronics is the goto place for my RV questions. -Mike D ================= What Listers Are Saying (WLAS) ================ ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 15, 2006
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: LOC
Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its sort of my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors (LOC)? As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems at least - if not a whole lot more - valuable as a building/flying/recreating/entertainment tool as your typical magazine subscription! Please take minute and assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by popping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics PO Box 347 Livermore CA 94551-0347 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 17, 2006
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: List Value...
If you look forward to checking your List email everyday (and a lot of you have written to say that you do!), then you're probably getting at least 0 or 0 worth of Entertainment from the Lists each year. You'd pay twice that for a subscription to some lame magazine or even a dinner out. Isn't the List worth at least that much to you? Wouldn't it be great if you could pay that same amount and get a well-managed media source free of advertising, SPAM, and viruses? Come to think of it, you do... Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support YOUR Lists? Contribution Page: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Again, I want to say THANK YOU to everyone that has made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser!! These Lists are made possible exclusively through YOUR generosity!! Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Admin. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 20, 2006
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Why? [Please Read]
Dear Listers, Each year I like to explain why I have a Fund Raiser and also take the opportunity to express why I think the List Services here provide a superior experience over the commercial equivalents. I use the List Fund Raiser each year to offset the costs involved with running a high performance email list site such as this one. With the annual support from the List members through the PBS-like Fund Raiser, I have found I can run the entire site without having to inflect any of the members with those annoying banner ads flashing up all the time trying to sell little-blue-pills or other garbage nobody wants or needs. From the comments I've received over the years regarding the Lists, the great majority of the members really appreciate the non-commercialism of my List systems and don't mind my 'go-team-go' banter once a year during November to encourage members to support the Lists. I believe that the Lists services that I provide here offer many benefits over the commercial equivalents in a number of ways. The first feature I believe to be significant is that you cannot receive a computer v*rus from any of these Lists directly. Each incoming message is filtered and dangerous attachments stripped off prior to posting. I also provide a Photo and File Share feature that allows members to share files and bitmaps with other members and everyone can be assured that these files will be prescanned for any sort of v*rus before they are posted. Safe and simple. Another very important feature of this system in my opinion is the extensive List Archives that are available for download, browsing, and searching. The Archives go all the way back to the very beginning of each List and with the very fast Search Engine, the huge size of some of the Archives is a non-issue in quickly finding the data you're looking for. And added just this year is the new Email List Forum that allows members who prefer the Web BBS-style of List interaction. The beauty of the new List Forums is that they contain the exact same content that is distributed via email. Messages posted via email are cross-posted to the respective Forum and vice versa. The Forums also allow for another convenient method of sharing pictures and other files. Additionally added this year is the new List Wiki that allows members to build their own "Online List Encyclopedia" of sorts, documenting various aspects of their project for all to share. I've been running email Lists and services under the matronics.com domain since about 1989 starting with RV-List and 30 guys I knew and who where also building RVs. It has grown into nearly 70 different aviation-related Email Lists and an associated web site that receives over 23,000,000 hits each year!! Additionally, the List Email system forwarded well over 87,000 postings last year, accounting for an unbelievable 39,000,000 (yes, that's 39 MILLION) email messages delivered to Matronics List subscribers! I think there's a lot of value in supporting a service that has gone the long haul and is still providing and improving a high quality service all _without any advertising budget_! I have to admit running these Lists is a labor of love and I hope it shows in the quality of the experience that you receive when you get a List Email Message, Search the Archives, use the List Browser, or surf the Forums and Wiki sites. The Lists will be here for a long time to come. If you just want to lurk a while for free, that's great and I encourage you to do so. If you use, appreciate, and receive value from these Lists, then please support them during the Annual List Fund Raiser! List Contribution Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 22, 2006
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists...
Dear Listers, Just a reminder that November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these great List services!! Pick up a really nice free gift with your qualifying Contribution too! The Contribution Site is fast and easy: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 24, 2006
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: More Great List Comments - Please Make A Contribution!
Dear Listers, There's a little less than one week left for this year's List Fund Raiser. I thought it would a great time to share a few more of the great comments I've been receiving from Contributors regarding what the Lists mean to them. There are some particularly poignant ones in this batch and I encourage you to have a look at some of them. Don't forget that once you make your Contribution, the Contribution Squelch kicks in and you won't receive any future messages from me regarding the Fund Raiser this year! This holds true for the Realtime and Digest distributions and now also the HTML and TXT links included with the Digest! (Note that for technical reasons, if someone replies to one of my contribution messages, the Squelch will _not_ be activated, and you will still receive it. Contribution messages will also still be found on the Forums site and the List Browse). Please make your Contribution today to support these List services! Pick up a great Gift too! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ============================= WLAS #2 ============================ Tackling my project without the List would be like building on a deserted island. The List has made me part of a learning (and laughing) community. -Larry W Thank you for providing such a fantastic resource for us Kolbers. I'm very happy to contribute towards keeping such a wonderful resource available. -Geoff T ..you do a great service for the flying community by providing this service. -John L ..solidly administered. -James C A great source of information. -Ralph S The Lists have likely saved a numbers of lives... -James F ..exceptional user service. -Larry W Better than a magazine! -Aaron G Thanks to your List I will be able to finish and fly my project. Without the help of the great people on your List I doubt it would have happened. -Ed G I learn something on a too regular basis thanks to these lists! -Ralph C ..valuable service. -John F ..a well administered service. -Stewart C Great forum! -Ronald C A great service! -Andy H Been reading the lists since my first RV in 1999. Good work and as necessary to me as a rivet. -Albert G The lists are a great help. -Gary S This resource has been critical to my building success so far. -Timothy F Great system and support! -Richard P Very helpful in the building my CH 701. -Ralph S Another year of entertainment and pleasure! -Larry B A great resource for all of us. -Larry W Another year of great service! Once again, the information is worth more than I can ever contribute. Thank you also for the "community" that the List fosters. I cannot tell you the number of times that seeing an friend's name come up has caused so many awesome memories to come flooding back - along with the eager desire to gather with these great guys again. I love hearing the beginner's enthusiasm, the builder's progress, and the flyer's success... -Robert B Our list has great info and I love reading the "Flame Posts! " -Stephen M Great service! -James B Excellent source of information. -David P You provide a very valuable service to the aviation community. -David H The RV related lists have been a tremendous help in the construction of my RV-7... -Norman R Awesome list!! -John E Great bunch of guys and very knowledgeable! -Herbert G Thank you for making it so easy to stay in touch with my fellow RV-10 builders. -David J I love the list and have been a reader for a long time. -James V Continues to be a great service! -George A Awesome List server. -Deke M Many of us would never finish our airplanes without [the List]. With it, I'm getting close! -Ronald C An excellent source of both information and inspiration! -William R Forums and format are easy to use. -Jack B Great help with my kit building. -Ralph H Super service. -Richard N Still loving it. -Jared S You have a fantastic web! -Harvey R ..a great service. -James M Glad you are there... -David A I get some great information on your list. -John P Fantastic service. Couldn't have made it as far as I have without it. -Stephen T A great learning experience with my RV-6A. -Ron B Great resources! -Jason H Well done. Very valuable. -Jeffrey D Great resource for the experimental aircraft community. -Chris H This List has been one of the most helpful tools in building my RV-10, since I build alone, and do not have any help readily available. Without the List, I could not have embarked on building my RV-10. -Jim H You run a great list there. -James H Really like the Kolb List. -Don W ============================= WLAS #2 ============================ ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 27, 2006
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: List of Contributors Coming Soon - Make Sure You're Listed!
Dear Listers, The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! On December 1st I post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. As a number of people have pointed out in their Contribution comments, the List seems at least as valuable of a building/flying/recreating tool as a typical your magazine subscription! And how interactive is a magazine, after all? :-) Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by droping a personal check in the mail to: Matronics / Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore CA 94551-0347 USA (Please include your email address on the check!) I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 28, 2006
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Who is "Matt Dralle" & What Are "The Lists"? [Please Read]
Dear Listers, Who is Matt Dralle and what exactly are these Lists? Well, I've been working in the information technology industry for over 20 years primarily in computer networking design and implementation. I have also done extensive work in web development and CGI design during this period. I started the Matronics Email Lists back in 1990 with about 30 fellow RV builders from around the world. Since that time, I have added 63 other kinds of aircraft related Lists to the line up and numerous other List related services such as the Forums, Wiki, Archives and Search Engine just to name a few. For flexibility and reliability, I have chosen to run all of my own servers here locally. Other List-related systems include a 1 Gigabit, fully switched network infrastructure, a commercial-grade Netscreen firewall, a Barracuda spam filter, a local T1 Internet router, and a commercial-grade business T1 Internet connection with full static addressing. The computer servers found here include a brand new, quad-processor Xeon Linux server for List web services, a dual-processor Xeon Linux system dedicated to the email processing List functions, and another P4 Linux system serving as a remote storage disk farm for the archives, databases, and for an on-line hard drive-based backup system with 3.2 Terra Bytes of storage, soon to be upgraded to over 6 Terra Bytes! This entire system is protected by three large, commercial-grade uninterrupted power supply (UPS) systems that assure the Lists are available even during a local power outage! Speaking of power, imagine how much electricity it takes to run all of these systems. One month this Summer, I had a staggering $1368 bill for electricity alone! I recently upgraded all of the computer racking infrastructure including new power feeds and dedicated air conditioning for the room that serves as the Computer Center for the Matronics Email Lists. This year I added another rack to house the new MONSTER quad-processor web system that didn't quite fit into the first rack! Here's a composite photo of the List Computer Center before the addition of the second rack: http://www.matronics.com/MattDralle-ListComputerCenter.jpg As you can see, I take running these Lists very seriously and I am dedicated to providing an always-on, 24x7x365 experience for each and every Lister. But building and running this system isn't cheap. As I've stated before, I don't support any of these systems with commercial advertising on the Lists. It is supported 100% through List member Contributions! That means you... and you... and YOU! To that end, I hold a List Fund Raiser each November and ask that members make a small Contribution to support the continued operation and upgrade of this ever-expanding system. Its solely YOUR Contributions that keeps it running! Please make a Contribution today to support these Lists! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matronics / Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore CA 94551-0347 USA (Please include your email address on the check!) Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 30, 2006
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Last "Official" Day Of The List Fund Raiser!
Dear Listers, Well, its November 30th and that means three things... 1) Today I am now officially 43 years old... (arg...) 2) It marks that last "official" day of the List Fund Raiser! 3) Its the last day I will be bugging everyone for a whole year! :-) If you use the Lists and enjoy the content and the no-advertising, no-spam, and no-censorship way in which they're run, please make a Contribution today to support their continued operation and upkeep. Your $20 or $30 goes a long way to further the List operation and keep the bills paid. I will be posting the List of Contributors next week, so make sure your name is on it! :-) Thank you to everyone that has made a Contribution so far this year! It is greatly appreciated. List Contributions: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 08, 2006
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Matronics Fund Raiser - 2006 List of Contributors
Dear Listers, I would like to thank everyone that made a Contribution in support of the Lists this year! It was really nice to hear all great comments people had regarding the Lists! As I have said many times before, running these Lists is a labor of love. Your generosity during the List Fund Raiser only underscores the great sentiments people have made regarding the Lists. If you haven't yet made a Contribution in support of this year's Fund Raiser please feel free to do so. The nice List gifts will be available on the site for just a little while longer, so hurry and make your Contribution and get your great gift. Once again, the URL for the Contribution web site is: http://www.matronics.com/contribution I would like to thank Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore ( http://www.buildersbooks.com ), Paul Besing of Aeroware Enterprises ( http://www.kitlog.com ), Jon Croke of Homebuilt HELP ( http://www.homebuilthelp.com ) and Bob Nuckolls of AeroElectric ( http://www.aeroelectric.com ) for their extremely generous support during this year's Fund Raiser through the contribution of merchandise. These are great guys that support the aviation industry and I encourage each and every Lister to have a look at their products. Thank you Andy, Paul, Jon and Bob!! Your support is very much appreciated! And finally, below you will find a web link to the 2006 List of Contributors current as of 12/7/06! Have a look at this list of names as these are the people that make all of these List services possible! I can't thank each of you enough for your support and great feedback during this year's Fund Raiser! THANK YOU! http://www.matronics.com/loc/2006.html I will be shipping out all of the gifts in the next few weeks and hope to have everything out by the end of the month. In most cases, gifts will be shipped via US Postal Service. Kitlog Pro serial numbers should go out via email this weekend. Once again, thank you for making this year's List Fund Raiser successful! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
From: DrJSherm(at)aol.com
Date: Feb 12, 2007
Subject: ANYBODY DOING IT?
I see NO activity on this site...considering an RV, and would like to see some info on current activity....Chute info, maneuver criteria, ....I would hope to engage in basic aerobatics if I buy such an A/C...what's going on in 2007???? JOHN SHERM, Wilmington, NC ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Grant Piper" <grant.piper(at)bigpond.com>
Subject: Re: ANYBODY DOING IT?
Date: Feb 13, 2007
Yes John, it is very quiet, and has been that way for some time. No one 'chats' about acro, all the secrets are very secret..... I fly comp aero's in my RV-4 at Sportsman level, but have done one comp at Intermediate. I believe there is a guy in the US that flies Intermediate in an RV-8 (I'm in Australia). Most RVs (not a -9) will walk through Sportsman if flown right. The low drag and relatively slow roll rate can be a problem though. Be very aware of speed build up when nose low, and 45=B0 down lines are steep! I try and keep the speed back below 140KIAS, as above that the roll rate seems to decrease and the forces go up. I use mid power, about 20"MAP for most normal acro, only using full power when going vertical, but also go back to idle when going down hill. This is very different than flying a Pitts, so beware 'good' advice from traditional acro aircraft pilots. Try and get some instruction from someone used to clean aircarft, say ex-military jet trainer or similar. The RV-4 and -6 feel very similar to me, the -7 I flew felt heavier in the controls. I haven't flown an -8, but cannot see why it would not be suitable either. I think it is more about getting good advice and practice so you are very familiar with your aircraft. You can get through Sportsman without inverted fuel and oil systems, but it means you can't draw long inverted lines or do really s-l-o-w rolls. I'm happy to talk more if you need to. Grant Piper RV-4 VH-PIO 2006 Australian Sportsman Champion ----- Original Message ----- From: DrJSherm(at)aol.com To: aerobatic-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 3:16 PM Subject: Aerobatic-List: ANYBODY DOING IT? I see NO activity on this site...considering an RV, and would like to see some info on current activity....Chute info, maneuver criteria, ....I would hope to engage in basic aerobatics if I buy such an A/C...what's going on in 2007???? JOHN SHERM, Wilmington, NC ________________________________________________________________________________
From: luckymacy(at)comcast.net (lucky)
Subject: Re: ANYBODY DOING IT?
Date: Feb 13, 2007
20MP but what RPM(s) for entry into ? maneuvers? -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Grant Piper" <grant.piper(at)bigpond.com> Yes John, it is very quiet, and has been that way for some time. No one 'chats' about acro, all the secrets are very secret..... I fly comp aero's in my RV-4 at Sportsman level, but have done one comp at Intermediate. I believe there is a guy in the US that flies Intermediate in an RV-8 (I'm in Australia). Most RVs (not a -9) will walk through Sportsman if flown right. The low drag and relatively slow roll rate can be a problem though. Be very aware of speed build up when nose low, and 45 down lines are steep! I try and keep the speed back below 140KIAS, as above that the roll rate seems to decrease and the forces go up. I use mid power, about 20"MAP for most normal acro, only using full power when going vertical, but also go back to idle when going down hill. This is very different than flying a Pitts, so beware 'good' advice from traditional acro aircraft pilots. Try and get some instruction from someone used to clean aircarft, say ex-military jet trainer or similar. The RV-4 and -6 feel very similar to me, the -7 I flew felt heavier in the controls. I haven't flown an -8, but cannot see why it would not be suitable either. I think it is more about getting good advice and practice so you are very familiar with your aircraft. You can get through Sportsman without inverted fuel and oil systems, but it means you can't draw long inverted lines or do really s-l-o-w rolls. I'm happy to talk more if you need to. Grant Piper RV-4 VH-PIO 2006 Australian Sportsman Champion ----- Original Message ----- From: DrJSherm(at)aol.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 3:16 PM Subject: Aerobatic-List: ANYBODY DOING IT? I see NO activity on this site...considering an RV, and would like to see some info on current activity....Chute info, maneuver criteria, ....I would hope to engage in basic aerobatics if I buy such an A/C...what's going on in 2007???? JOHN SHERM, Wilmington, NC href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Aerobatic-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Aerobatic-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
20MP but what RPM(s) for entry into ? maneuvers?
 
Yes John, it is very quiet, and has been that way for some time.    No one 'chats' about acro, all the secrets are very secret.....
 
I fly comp aero's in my RV-4 at Sportsman level, but have done one comp at Intermediate.   I believe there is a guy in the US that flies Intermediate in an RV-8 (I'm in Australia).   Most RVs (not a -9) will walk through Sportsman if flown right.   The low drag and relatively slow roll rate can be a problem though.   Be very aware of speed build up when nose low, and 45 down lines are steep!   I try and keep the speed back below 140KIAS, as above that the roll rate seems to decrease and the forces go up.   I use mid power, about 20"MAP for most normal acro, only using full power when going vertical, but also go back to idle when going down hill.   This is very different than flying a Pitts, so beware 'good' advice from traditional acro aircraft pilots.   Try and get some instruction from someone used to clean aircarft, say ex-military jet trainer or similar.
 
The RV-4 and -6 feel very similar to me, the -7 I flew felt heavier in the controls.   I haven't flown an -8, but cannot see why it would not be suitable either.   I think it is more about getting good advice and practice so you are very familiar with your aircraft.   You can get through Sportsman without inverted fuel and oil systems, but it means you can't draw long inverted lines or do really s-l-o-w rolls.
 
I'm happy to talk more if you need to.
 
Grant Piper
RV-4 VH-PIO
2006 Australian Sportsman Champion
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From: "Grant Piper" <grant.piper(at)bigpond.com>
Subject: Re: ANYBODY DOING IT?
Date: Feb 14, 2007
I have a FP wood prop, so its about 24-2500 for me. You can loop, barrell roll, slow roll stall turn anywhere from 110-140KIAS. Roilling manoeuvres above 140 get hard to do nicely due to high forces. Grant ----- Original Message ----- From: lucky To: aerobatic-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 11:07 PM Subject: Re: Aerobatic-List: ANYBODY DOING IT? 20MP but what RPM(s) for entry into ? maneuvers? -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Grant Piper" <grant.piper(at)bigpond.com> Yes John, it is very quiet, and has been that way for some time. No one 'chats' about acro, all the secrets are very secret..... I fly comp aero's in my RV-4 at Sportsman level, but have done one comp at Intermediate. I believe there is a guy in the US that flies Intermediate in an RV-8 (I'm in Australia). Most RVs (not a -9) will walk through Sportsman if flown right. The low drag and relatively slow roll rate can be a problem though. Be very aware of speed build up when nose low, and 45=B0 down lines are steep! I try and keep the speed back below 140KIAS, as above that the roll rate seems to decrease and the forces go up. I use mid power, about 20"MAP for most normal acro, only using full power when going vertical, but also go back to idle when going down hill. This is very different than flying a Pitts, so beware 'good' advice from traditional acro aircraft pilots. Try and get some instruction from someone used to clean aircarft, say ex-military jet trainer or similar. The RV-4 and -6 feel very similar to me, the -7 I flew felt heavier in the controls. I haven't flown an -8, but cannot see why it would not be suitable either. I think it is more about getting good advice and practice so you are very familiar with your aircraft. You can get through Sportsman without inverted fuel and oil systems, but it means you can't draw long inverted lines or do really s-l-o-w rolls. I'm happy to talk more if you need to. Grant Piper RV-4 VH-PIO 2006 Australian Sportsman Champion ----- Original Message ----- From: DrJSherm(at)aol.com To: aerobatic-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 3:16 PM Subject: Aerobatic-List: ANYBODY DOING IT? I see NO activity on this site...considering an RV, and would like to see some info on current activity....Chute info, maneuver criteria, ....I would hope to engage in basic aerobatics if I buy such an A/C...what's going on in 2007???? JOHN SHERM, Wilmington, NC href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Aerobatic-List">http://www.mat ronics.com/Navigator?Aerobatic-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________________________________________________________
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From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: New Realtime Spell Checker Added To Matronics Forums!
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From: "Brian Fowler" <brianf(at)fowlerssheetmetal.com>
Subject: RE: Aerobatic-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 10/03/07
Date: Oct 04, 2007
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Date: Oct 24, 2007
Subject: Re: Aerobatic-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 10/23/07
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Date: Nov 01, 2007
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: November is Matronics Email List Fund Raiser Month!
Dear Listers, You've probably noticed that there are no banner ads or pop-up windows or spam from any of the List and Forum services at Matronics. These include, for example: The Email List Postings - http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse The Email List Forum Site - http://forums.matronics.com The List Wiki - http://wiki.matronics.com The List Search Engine - http://www.matronics.com/search This is because I have always enjoyed a List experience that was completely about the sport we enjoy - airplanes - and not about advertising! But running a high performance, highly available service like this isn't free and a fair amount of money in terms of computer upgrades, business-class Internet connectivity, and electricity. Consequently, many similar sites turn to advertising to support these costs. Advertising that you have to look at each and every time you read an email message or browse the their web site. Rather than subject my List community to another constant commercial bombardment, I have chosen to hold a PBS-like fund raiser each year in November to support the continued operation and upgrade of the List services. It's solely through the Contributions of List members that the Lists and Forums continue to be possible! During the month, I will be sending out a Fund Raiser reminder message every few days and I ask for your patience and understanding during the month throughout these regular messages. Think of them as PBS' Pledge Breaks... :-) To minimize the impact of the Fund Raiser on the List community, I implemented a new feature late last year specifically related to making Contributions. If you are an Email List subscriber, once you make a Contribution using the online web site, you will no longer receive the email from me regarding the Fund Raiser! There are a couple of exceptions to this, however. If someone replies to a Contribution message I've sent, you might receive that. Additionally, the messages will always be posted to the Forums site. To a first order, however, once you make a Contribution, you won't get my email messages about the Fund Raiser for the rest of the month. For Contributions by check, the squelch will take effect once the check is received. There is a whole new line up of really great Contribution gifts this year! When you make a qualifying Contribution, you can select one of the many free gifts that are available during the Fund Raiser. These gifts are provided through the generous support of a number of our industry's leading supporters including: Bob Nuckolls - AeroElectric - http://www.aeroelectric.com Andy Gold - Builder's Bookstore - http://www.buildersbooks.com Jon Croke - HomebuiltHELP - http://www.homebuilthelp.com Please visit these guy's respective sites, as they have some great products to offer and are generously supporting the Matronics List Fund Raiser. You can make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods this year including using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. From the Contribution site, you can select any one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying Contribution amount. The Contribution page is pretty loooonnnnng this year in order to list great selection of great gifts available so be sure to scroll all the way to the bottom of the web page to see everything that's available! Please make a List Support Contribution: http://www.matronics.com/contribution I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous support! Your Contributions truely keep this operation afloat! Thank you, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 04, 2007
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: List Fund Raiser
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Date: Nov 07, 2007
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: What Listers Are Saying...
November is Matronics List Fund Raiser month and a number people been sending some really nice comments regarding the Lists. I thought I'd share a few below. The Lists are completely supported by your Contributions. All of the bills for new hardware, connectivity, and electricity are paid by the generous support of the List members. Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation of the List and Forums: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ================= What Listers Are Saying ================ Flying and building is much safer with this List!! Robert D. Thanks for having and maintaining such a great resource to all of us builders and flyers. Wayne E. Love the fact that you haven't caved to advertising! Peter J. ..a great resource!! Robert C. Not building at the moment, but the Lists keeps me right up to date with what's going on. Chris D. The web forum has been running great. James O. I enjoy this [List] site very much... Paul C. This is a great list! Albert G. ..a valuable resource! Roger C. I am deployed to Pakistan right now, and being able to go on-line and keep up with the aircraft discussions helps keep the aircraft building dream alive in my mind! Gregory C. ..fantastic service! Roger M. ..clearly a work of passion! Mike C. It is a great service to us! Kevin C. The list is a wonderful resource... Ralph O. [The Lists] have been the single greatest resource in building my RV-9A and now my RV-10. Albert G. ..a valuable and always improving service. Dick S. STILL THE BEST BARGAIN AROUND!! Owen B. ..such a valuable tool. Jon M. [The Lists] have been an invaluable resource for me as a Zenith homebuilder. David G. The opportunity to meet (on line at least) many other interesting builders and to make some new friends is truly appreciated. Albert G. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 09, 2007
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: If You Got This Email, You Haven't Made A Contribution
Yet! :-) Dear Listers, If you received this particular Matronics List Email message, its because you haven't yet made a Contribution to support your Lists! Implemented for the first time last year, the Matronics system selectively sends out the Contribution messages to those that forgot to whip out the 'ol credit card this year to support the continued operation and upgrade of the Matronics Email Lists! Don't you wish PBS worked that way? :-) You heard that right. Once you make your Contribution, these support requests messages during November will suddenly stop coming to your personal email inbox! I wanted to implement something like this for a number of years, but it was always such a daunting task to modify the back-end List processing code, that I just kept putting it off. Finally last year, I just decided to bite the bullet and put the code-pounding time it to make it work. A few days later, bam! A working system! I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware and software that are required to run a List Site like this. It also goes to pay for the commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the rather huge electric bill to keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered up. I run ALL of the Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which allows me to control and monitor every aspect of the system for the utmost in reliably and performance. Your personal Contribution matters because when combined with other Listers such as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up and running. I accept exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand the pop-up ads and all other commercialism that is so prevalent on the Internet these days and I particularly don't want to have it on my Email List site. If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator [Please note the following regarding the selective posting system. There are certain circumstances where you might still see a Contribution related message. These situations include if someone replies to one of the messages, or when using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum. Since most of these are anonymous public access methods, there is no simple way to filter them.] ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 11, 2007
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Post Mortem - Matronics List Pummeled By Spam...
Dear Listers, Over a 3-day period, Thursday 11/8 though Saturday 11/10, the Matronics Lists were pummeled with over 450,000 spam emails causing posting delays and a few duplicate messages. Yeah, I really said nearly half a million spams! The good news is that I don't believe a single one of them actually made it to the Lists thanks to the aggressive List filtering code and the Barracuda spam filter. The bad news was that it caused quite a back log of email messages starting Friday and continuing until late Saturday when I noticed that delivery seemed a bit sluggish. By about 11pm on Saturday night, I had managed to get the backlog cleared out of the spam filter by temporarily adjusting some of the filtering. A check of the queues this morning, and everything looks like its working great and there are no incoming filtering delays and spam levels appear to be back to "normal". There were a number of people asking what was going on, so I thought that I'd send out a follow up post mortem on the event... November is the annual List Fund Raiser. Your contribution directly enables me to buy systems like the Barracuda spam filter that keep the List free of that garbage. Please make a contribution to support your Lists! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 13, 2007
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: List of Contributors
Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its sort of my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors (LOC)? As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems at least - if not a whole lot more - valuable as a building/flying/recreating/entertainment tool as your typical magazine subscription! Please take minute and assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by popping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics PO Box 347 Livermore CA 94551-0347 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Russell Lassetter" <rblassett(at)alltel.net>
Subject: Construction/Restoration
Date: Nov 14, 2007
Hello all, I would like to offer my aircraft construction/restoration services to the group. I have a 40' X 60' hangar in NE Georgia and have a lifetime of experience with various aircraft. I can construct large projects for $15.00 per hour with first-class workmanship. Please email me directly or give me a call. Russ Lassetter 202 Aviation Blvd. Cleveland, GA 30528 706-348-7514 rblassett(at)alltel.net ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 15, 2007
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Value of the List...
If you look forward to checking your List email everyday (and a lot of you have written to say that you do!), then you're probably getting at least 0 or 0 worth of Entertainment from the Lists each year. You'd pay twice that for a subscription to some lame magazine or even a dinner out. Isn't the List worth at least that much to you? Wouldn't it be great if you could pay that amount and get a well-managed media source free of advertising, SPAM, and viruses? Come to think of it, you do... :-) Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support the Lists? Contribution Page: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Again, I want to say THANK YOU to everyone that has made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser!! These Lists are made possible exclusively through YOUR generosity!! Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Admin. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 18, 2007
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists...
Just a reminder that November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these great List services!! And pick up a really nice free gift with your qualifying Contribution too! The Contribution Site is fast and easy: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 20, 2007
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: [Please Read] Why I Have A Fund Raiser...
Dear Listers, Each year I like to explain why I have a Fund Raiser and also take the opportunity to express why I think the List Services here provide a superior experience over the commercial equivalents. I use the List Fund Raiser each year to offset the costs involved with running a high performance email list site such as this one. With the annual support from the List members through the PBS-like Fund Raiser, I have found I can run the entire site without having to inflect any of the members with those annoying banner ads flashing up all the time trying to sell little-blue-pills or other garbage nobody wants or needs. From the comments I've received over the years regarding the Lists, the great majority of the members really appreciate the non-commercialism of my List systems and don't mind my 'go-team-go' banter once a year during November to encourage members to support the Lists. I believe that the Lists services that I provide here offer many benefits over the commercial equivalents in a number of ways. The first feature I believe to be significant is that you cannot receive a computer v*rus from any of these Lists directly. Each incoming message is filtered and dangerous attachments stripped off prior to posting. I also provide a Photo and File Share feature that allows members to share files and bitmaps with other members and everyone can be assured that these files will be prescanned for any sort of v*rus before they are posted. More recently, I have enabled limited posting of a number of file formats including pictures and PDFs. Another very important feature of this system in my opinion is the extensive List Archives that are available for download, browsing, and searching. The Archives go all the way back to the very beginning of each List and with the very fast Search Engine, the huge size of some of the Archives is a non-issue in quickly finding the data you're looking for. And added just a couple of years ago is the new Email List Forum that allows members who prefer the Web BBS-style of List interaction. The beauty of the new List Forums is that they contain the exact same content that is distributed via email. Messages posted via email are cross-posted to the respective Forum and vice versa. The Forums also allow for another convenient method of sharing pictures and other files (http://forums.matronics.com ). Additionally, added recently is the List Wiki that allows members to build their own "Online List Encyclopedia" of sorts, documenting various aspects of their project for all to share ( http://wiki.matronics.com ). I've been running email Lists and services under the matronics.com domain since about 1989 starting with RV-List and 30 guys I knew and who where also building RVs. It has grown into nearly 70 different aviation-related Email Lists and an associated web site that receives over 34,000,000 hits each year!! Additionally, the List Email system forwarded well over 77,000 postings last year, accounting for an unbelievable 33,000,000 (yes, that's 33 MILLION) email messages delivered to Matronics List subscribers! I think there's a lot of value in supporting a service that has gone the long haul and is still providing and improving a high quality service all _without any advertising budget_! I have to admit running these Lists is a labor of love and I hope it shows in the quality of the experience that you receive when you get a List Email Message, Search the Archives, use the List Browser, or surf the Forums and Wiki sites. The Lists will be here for a long time to come. If you just want to lurk a while for free, that's great and I encourage you to do so. If you use, appreciate, and receive value from these Lists, then please support them during the Annual List Fund Raiser! List Contribution Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 22, 2007
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: What Are You Thankful For...?
Dear Listers, Here in the United States, Thursday is our National day of Thanksgiving. Many of us will be traveling to be with our families and friends to share in generous feasts of plenty and giving thanks for many blessings that have been bestowed upon us. Many Listers have expressed over the last couple of weeks how thankful they are for the Email Lists and Forums here on the Matronics servers and for all of the assistance and comradery they have experienced being a part of the Lists. One of my favorite kind of comments is when write to me and says something like, "Its the first thing I do in the morning while I'm having my morning coffee!". That's a wonderful tribute to the purpose and function of these Lists. Its always great to hear I'm not the only one that jumps out of bed each morning to check my List email!! Won't you take a minute today and show your appreciation for these Lists and for their continued operation and upgrade? The List Contribution Site is: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you in advance for your kind consideration, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 24, 2007
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Comments
Dear Listers, Below are a few more of the nice comments Listers have been making along with their Contributions in support of the Lists this year. Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these services. Remember, there is _no advertising budget_ to keep these Lists funded. It is solely through your generosity that they continue. Please make a Contribution: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ------------------------------What Listers Are Saying------------------------------ The list has been invaluable in the building of my Zenith CH701. George R Thanks for keeping the lists a non-commercial venue for us to gather and share knowledge. Neal G What a fantastic resource! Ralph C It's a pretty cheep troubleshooting tool with and unlimited resource of personal knowledge. Bruce G A full house of Info & Ideas... Ellery B I really enjoy the Piet list. Steven D The Lists are an indispensable resource for those of us building OBAM aircraft. Bret S ..a great service. Frank D ..all in all it is a great resource if you ask specific questions. Richard S Your list has really helped me in my first build. Michael W Always a pleasure to support this great resource... Richard W I enjoy the lists very much, they are very beneficial. Bob L Great place to chat with other builders and Flyers. Ellery B Your lists are a great service to builders and owners! Richard D A real good place for someone that is starting to get interested into flying without investing any money at first. Ellery B The list has been an great help to my building process. David B I'm close to finishing my Zenith 601 thanks to you and the Zenith List. Jeff D ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 26, 2007
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published
Dec 1! Dear Listers, The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! On December 1st I post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. As a number of people have pointed out in their Contribution comments, these Lists seems at least as valuable of a building/flying/recreating tool as a typical your magazine subscription! And how interactive is a magazine, after all? Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matronics / Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore CA 94551-0347 USA (Please include your email address on the check!) I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 27, 2007
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: [Please Read] What are "The Lists" and Who's This Matt
Dralle? Dear Listers, Who is Matt Dralle and what exactly are these Lists? Well, I've been working in the information technology industry for nearly 25 years primarily in computer networking design and implementation. I have also done extensive work in web development and CGI design during that time, along with some embedded system development as well. I started the Matronics Email Lists back in 1990 with about 30 fellow RV builders from around the world. Since that time, I have added 63 other kinds of aircraft related Lists to the line up and numerous other List related services such as the Forums, Wiki, Archives and Search Engine just to name a few. For flexibility and reliability, I have chosen to run all of my own servers here locally. Other List-related systems include a 1 Gigabit, fully switched network infrastructure, a commercial-grade Netscreen firewall, a Barracuda spam filter, a local T1 Internet router, and a commercial-grade business T1 Internet connection with full static addressing. The computer servers found here include a quad-processor Xeon Linux server for List web services, a dual-processor Xeon Linux system dedicated to the email processing List functions, and another P4 Linux system serving as a remote storage disk farm for the archives, databases, and for an on-line hard drive-based backup system with 3.2 Terra Bytes of storage! This entire system is protected by three large, commercial-grade uninterrupted power supply (UPS) systems that assure the Lists are available even during a local power outage! Speaking of power, imagine how much electricity it takes to run all of these systems. One month last Summer, I had a staggering $1368 bill for electricity alone! I recently upgraded all of the computer racking infrastructure including new power feeds and dedicated air conditioning for the room that serves as the Computer Center for the Matronics Email Lists. Last year I added another rack to house the MONSTER quad-processor web system that didn't quite fit into the first rack! Here's a composite photo of the List Computer Center before the addition of the second rack: http://www.matronics.com/MattDralle-ListComputerCenter.jpg As you can see, I take running these Lists very seriously and I am dedicated to providing an always-on, 24x7x365 experience for each and every Lister. But building and running this system isn't cheap. As I've stated before, I don't support any of these systems with commercial advertising on the Lists. It is supported 100% through List member Contributions! That means you... and you... and YOU! To that end, I hold a List Fund Raiser each November and ask that members make a small Contribution to support the continued operation and upgrade of this ever-expanding system. Its solely YOUR Contributions that keeps it running! Won't you please take a moment to make a Contribution to support these Lists! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matronics / Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore CA 94551-0347 USA (Please include your email address on the check!) There are some great gifts available with qualifying Contribution levels too! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 28, 2007
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Wow! A Ton of Comments!
Dear Listers, I've been getting a ton of great comments from Listers along with their List Support Contributions lately! I've shared a bunch more below. Please read over some of them and see what your fellow Listers think of the Lists and Forums. There are just a couple more days left before the official end of this year's Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution today to support the continued upgrade and operation of these services. There are still lots of awesome gifts available, so browse the extensive selection and pickup a nice item along with your qualifying Contribution. http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you in advance for your generous support! It is very much appreciated! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ----------- What Listers Are Saying About The Lists ----------- In the big picture, you are most certainly saving lives. The fact that you do it at a very good level of service, quality, and simplicity is just icing on the cake. We all owe you a debt of gratitude. Bruce M Can't go a single day without reading my lists. Even when I am overseas. Terry W Best list ever. No comparison. Johann J I get the digest for the two lists I subscribe to each morning -- they go great with my coffee! I can't tell you how much I've learned from this great service... Mark S ..great lists, best on the Net! Robert S It is very nice to enjoy a SPAM free list. Ken L You run a great list. Makes a builder feel like there's lots of help out there for the asking, and it's appreciated. Steve T The list is a very valuable resource. Thomas S You run a good list. James G Thanks for a great forum. Jimmy Y Thanks for a well-maintained list(s). Michael M Great job! Worth every penny! Stephen T Helps me learn and think about issues I didn't know I didn't know. Martin H I find the list very useful... Robert F What you do provides me with daily contact with a passion of my life, aviation. Wendell M ..the list it is very valuable information. Dwayne H ..a great service to homebuilders. Andrew H I have learned quite a lot from reading the Forums. I have been reading at the forum pages and I like the way it works. Ron L [The List] makes a builder feel like there's lots of help out there for the asking, and it's appreciated. Steve T The list service many purposes, not the least of which is motivation to join my fellow RVer in completing my project and getting in the air. John S Thanks for running a great site. Its simplicity is its greatness. Don't know how I would have been successful without it. Timothy F ..terrific service to experimental and general aviation. James F You have a well run operation. I am happy to support what you do. Mark S A wonderful service to the GA community. David M Great list - let's keep it ad-free! Ben C They have been of great help, learning and friendship for all the members Worldwide. Great job of yours, a little idea that grew really big and wonderful. Gary G ..a thoroughly enjoyable and informative List. John W A GREAT LEARNING TOOL!! Dwayne Y This is a very well-run list and it is a valuable resource for the Pietenpol enthusiast. Graham H Thanks for running this great site - helps those of us on the east of the pond keep in touch. Malcolm H Thanks for the major contribution to my continuing education program. Oldbob S I'm just getting started in the building process & find Matronics to be the most valuable site. Scott D Without the information and encouragement from the listers my project would have been sitting in the corner of my shop collecting dust long ago. Now it's almost ready for final assemble and covering. Edward G Great List. No Ads, just RV-10 builders. Keep it going. Rick E Wonderful source of info for building & flying... Graham H The Yak-list is a superb single source to get answers to questions on the operation of these aircraft. Craig W This list is valuable to everyone and your hard work is very much appreciated. Jim S ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 29, 2007
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just Two Days Left...
Dear Listers, There are just a couple days left for this year's List Fund Raiser. Over all, participation has been good, but things have been pretty slow this week for some reason. If you've been putting off making your Contribution until the last minute, this is it! The last minute, that is... :-) Please remember that there isn't any sort of commercial advertising on the Lists and the *only* means of keeping these Lists running is through your Contributions during this Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution today! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 29, 2007
From: Dan Farmer <daniellfarmer(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Aerobatic-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 11/28/07
I am new to this site. Can anyone tell me anything about a CAP10 B? Aerobatic-List Digest Server wrote: * ================================================= Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================= Today's complete Aerobatic-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the Aerobatic-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=37461&View=html&Chapter 07-11-28&Archive=Aerobatic Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=37461&View=txt&Chapter 07-11-28&Archive=Aerobatic =============================================== EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive =============================================== ---------------------------------------------------------- Aerobatic-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 11/28/07: 0 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 30, 2007
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser!
Dear Listers, Its November 30th and that means a couple of things. Its my 44th birthday for one, but I'm trying to forget about that... But, it also means that its that last official day of the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser! If you been drooling over one of the really sweet free gifts that are available this year with a qualifying Contribution, then now is the time to jump on one!! If you've been meaning to make a Contribution, but just keep putting it off, then now is the time! I will be posting the List of Contributors in a few days, so you'll probably want to be known as a person that supported the Lists! Rather than the guy that, er, ah, forgot (or whatever)... :-) I want to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution so far this year in support of our Lists. It is your generosity that keeps this operation a float and I don't ever forget it. Hopefully everyone will feel the same. The List Contribution page is fast and easy. Please support our habit by making your Contribution right now: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you all in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 06, 2007
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Matronics List Fund Raiser - 2007 List of Contributors
Dear Listers, I would like to thank everyone that made a Contribution in support of the Lists this year! It was really nice to hear all great comments people had regarding the Lists! As I have said many times before, running these Lists is a labor of love. Your generosity during the List Fund Raiser underscores the great sentiments people have made regarding the Lists. If you haven't yet made a Contribution in support of this year's Fund Raiser please feel free to do so. The great List Fund Raiser gifts will be available on the Contribution site for just a little while longer, so hurry and make your Contribution and get your great gift! Once again, the URL for the Contribution web site is: http://www.matronics.com/contribution I would like to thank Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore ( http://www.buildersbooks.com ), Jon Croke of Homebuilt HELP ( http://www.homebuilthelp.com ) and Bob Nuckolls of AeroElectric ( http://www.aeroelectric.com ) for their extremely generous support during this year's Fund Raiser through the contribution of discounted merchandise. These are great guys that support the aviation industry and I encourage each and every Lister to have a look at their products. Thank you Andy, Jon and Bob!! Your support is very much appreciated! And finally, below you will find a web link to the 2007 List of Contributors current as of 12/6/07! Have a look at this list of names as these are the people that make all of these List services possible! I can't thank each of you enough for your support and great feedback during this year's Fund Raiser! THANK YOU! http://www.matronics.com/loc/2007.html I will be shipping out all of the gifts in the next few weeks and hope to have everything out by the end of the month. In most cases, gifts will be shipped via US Postal Service. Once again, thank you for making this year's List Fund Raiser successful! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 13, 2007
From: Dan Farmer <daniellfarmer(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Aerobatic-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 12/12/07
does anyone use this forum? Aerobatic-List Digest Server wrote: * ================================================= Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================= Today's complete Aerobatic-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the Aerobatic-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 07-12-12&Archive=Aerobatic Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 07-12-12&Archive=Aerobatic =============================================== EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive =============================================== ---------------------------------------------------------- Aerobatic-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 12/12/07: 0 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "cliff" <exodus(at)gds.co.za>
Subject: Re: Aerobatic-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 12/12/07
Date: Dec 13, 2007
hardly ever ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Farmer To: aerobatic-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:59 PM Subject: Aerobatic-List: Re: Aerobatic-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 12/12/07 does anyone use this forum? Aerobatic-List Digest Server wrote: * Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive Today's complete Aerobatic-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the Aerobatic-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html& Chapter 07-12-12&Archive=Aerobatic Text Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 13, 2007
From: scott bilinski <rv8a2001(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Aerobatic-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 12/12/07
Is there an aeerobatic list people do use? ----- Original Message ---- From: cliff <exodus(at)gds.co.za> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 5:39:08 AM Subject: Re: Aerobatic-List: Re: Aerobatic-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 12/12/07 hardly ever ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Farmer Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:59 PM Subject: Aerobatic-List: Re: Aerobatic-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 12/12/07 does anyone use this forum? Aerobatic-List Digest Server wrote: * ======================== Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ======================== Today's complete Aerobatic-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the Aerobatic-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 07-12-12&Archive=Aerobatic Text Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/chref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Aerobatic-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Aerobatic-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com Looking for last minute shopping deals? ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 13, 2007
From: "Wesley Warner" <warner.wesley(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Aerobatic-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 12/12/07
Acro mailing list Acro(at)aerobaticsweb.org http://aerobaticsweb.org/mailman/listinfo/acro On Dec 13, 2007 9:44 AM, scott bilinski wrote: > > > Is there an aeerobatic list people do use? ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Konrad L. Werner" <klwerner(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Aerobatic-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 12/12/07
Date: Dec 13, 2007
Not much!!! Very sporadic... ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Farmer To: aerobatic-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 5:59 AM Subject: Aerobatic-List: Re: Aerobatic-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 12/12/07 does anyone use this forum? Aerobatic-List Digest Server wrote: * Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive Today's complete Aerobatic-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the Aerobatic-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html& Chapter 07-12-12&Archive=Aerobatic Text Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Aerobatic-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 12/13/07
Date: Dec 14, 2007
From: drjsherm(at)aol.com
I have been looking for 1 1/2 yr....pretty much unused! Was hoping to see dialogue...hope to return to this dimension someday...even if relatively mild stuff. John Sherm, wilmington, NC ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: remove
Date: Jan 19, 2008
From: wbflyrite(at)aol.com
-----Original Message----- From: Aerobatic-List Digest Server <aerobatic-list(at)matronics.com> Sent: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 11:55 pm Subject: Aerobatic-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 01/18/08 * ================================================= Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================= Today's complete Aerobatic-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the Aerobatic-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 08-01-18&Archive=Aerobatic Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 08-01-18&Archive=Aerobatic =============================================== EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive =============================================== ---------------------------------------------------------- Aerobatic-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 01/18/08: 0 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- ________________________________________________________________________ http://webmail.aol.com ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Aerobatic-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 01/21/08
Date: Jan 22, 2008
From: wbflyrite(at)aol.com
remove -----Original Message----- From: Aerobatic-List Digest Server <aerobatic-list(at)matronics.com> Sent: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 11:55 pm Subject: Aerobatic-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 01/21/08 * ================================================= Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================= Today's complete Aerobatic-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the Aerobatic-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 08-01-21&Archive=Aerobatic Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 08-01-21&Archive=Aerobatic =============================================== EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive =============================================== ---------------------------------------------------------- Aerobatic-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 01/21/08: 0 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- ________________________________________________________________________ http://webmail.aol.com ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: extra
From: "raddatz" <n667sr(at)comcast.net>
Date: Feb 08, 2008
Just bought an Extra, Most fun I ever had flying but it takes a little getting use to the landings. Steve Raddatz Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=162994#162994 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Robert Taylor" <FlyDad57(at)neo.rr.com>
Subject: Re: extra
Date: Feb 08, 2008
Steve, Can you elaborate? What is it about the landings that takes getting used to? What did you fly before? Just curious. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "raddatz" <n667sr(at)comcast.net> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 9:45 AM Subject: Aerobatic-List: extra > > Just bought an Extra, Most fun I ever had flying but it takes a little > getting use to the landings. > Steve Raddatz > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=162994#162994 > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: extra
From: "raddatz" <n667sr(at)comcast.net>
Date: Feb 08, 2008
I have got over 600 hours in RV's with 500 plus hours in taildraggers. My plane is a Extra 260 with the mid wing design. so when I'm on final I lose site of the runway at any speed under 80kts due to the angle of attack so what I have learned is to slip my landing from downwind right to the numbers and that seems to work well. But its still work in progress. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=163004#163004 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Robert Taylor" <FlyDad57(at)neo.rr.com>
Subject: Re: extra
Date: Feb 08, 2008
Excellent! That's exactly the information I was looking for. Thank you! Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "raddatz" <n667sr(at)comcast.net> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 10:49 AM Subject: Aerobatic-List: Re: extra > > I have got over 600 hours in RV's with 500 plus hours in taildraggers. My > plane is a Extra 260 with the mid wing design. so when I'm on final I lose > site of the runway at any speed under 80kts due to the angle of attack so > what I have learned is to slip my landing from downwind right to the > numbers and that seems to work well. But its still work in progress. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=163004#163004 > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Peter Pengilly" <peter(at)sportingaero.com>
Subject: Re: extra
Date: Feb 08, 2008
Steve, I had a mid wing 300 for a while. The best technique I found was to fly a curving approach if at all possible, and convert that to a large slip as I lined up on final, with plenty of power. I held the slip to the absolute last minute (probably 20' or below), straightened up, cut the power and landed. On take off I would leave the ground at 80kt in the 3 point attitude, so I approached at 80kt. Any more and I would float down the runway completely blind. I want to know that the airplane would land as soon as I shut the throttle. Kicking off the slip was enough to give a little 'flare' to stop the rate of descent. Speed control +2kt -0 on final was key to a good landing, at light weights I could get it down to 75kt without arriving too much tailwheel first. Using this technique I did land on a 900ft runway one day with plenty to spare (but there was a 25kt wind blowing) - the alternative was 25kt across 1800' or land 25 miles away! Once on the ground I would pick the tail up so I could see where I was going and could brake quite heavily controlling the attitude with the elevator down to about 20 kt. Hope this helps, Peter -----Original Message----- From: owner-aerobatic-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-aerobatic-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of raddatz Sent: 08 February 2008 15:49 Subject: Aerobatic-List: Re: extra I have got over 600 hours in RV's with 500 plus hours in taildraggers. My plane is a Extra 260 with the mid wing design. so when I'm on final I lose site of the runway at any speed under 80kts due to the angle of attack so what I have learned is to slip my landing from downwind right to the numbers and that seems to work well. But its still work in progress. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=163004#163004 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: extra
From: "raddatz" <n667sr(at)comcast.net>
Date: Feb 08, 2008
Peter that is beautiful, I also stand the tail during rollout. Thanks for the info I'm also landing at my airpark which is narrow for a blind landing, but its progressing nicely. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=163050#163050 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: extra
Date: Feb 08, 2008
From: "Monty Barrett Sr" <MONTY(at)bpaengines.com>
You guys all need some Cessna 195 time. Talk about BLIND-------- Monty Barrett C-195 Pitts 12 Former Skybolt -----Original Message----- From: owner-aerobatic-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-aerobatic-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter Pengilly Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 1:25 PM Subject: RE: Aerobatic-List: Re: extra Steve, I had a mid wing 300 for a while. The best technique I found was to fly a curving approach if at all possible, and convert that to a large slip as I lined up on final, with plenty of power. I held the slip to the absolute last minute (probably 20' or below), straightened up, cut the power and landed. On take off I would leave the ground at 80kt in the 3 point attitude, so I approached at 80kt. Any more and I would float down the runway completely blind. I want to know that the airplane would land as soon as I shut the throttle. Kicking off the slip was enough to give a little 'flare' to stop the rate of descent. Speed control +2kt -0 on final was key to a good landing, at light weights I could get it down to 75kt without arriving too much tailwheel first. Using this technique I did land on a 900ft runway one day with plenty to spare (but there was a 25kt wind blowing) - the alternative was 25kt across 1800' or land 25 miles away! Once on the ground I would pick the tail up so I could see where I was going and could brake quite heavily controlling the attitude with the elevator down to about 20 kt. Hope this helps, Peter -----Original Message----- From: owner-aerobatic-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-aerobatic-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of raddatz Sent: 08 February 2008 15:49 Subject: Aerobatic-List: Re: extra I have got over 600 hours in RV's with 500 plus hours in taildraggers. My plane is a Extra 260 with the mid wing design. so when I'm on final I lose site of the runway at any speed under 80kts due to the angle of attack so what I have learned is to slip my landing from downwind right to the numbers and that seems to work well. But its still work in progress. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=163004#163004 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 08, 2008
From: Gilles Thesee <Gilles.Thesee@ac-grenoble.fr>
Subject: Re: Aerobatic-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 11/28/07
Dan Farmer a crit : > I am new to this site. Can anyone tell me anything about a CAP10 B? > > *//* What do you want to know about the CAP 10 B ? Nice airplane with beautifully harmonized controls. Logged about 500-600 hrs in it, almost 98 % aerobatics. Best regards, -- Gilles http://contrails.free.fr ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: extra
From: "raddatz" <n667sr(at)comcast.net>
Date: Feb 08, 2008
Monty you could mount a video camera under the wing and a tv screen in the panel and still not affect useful load. Monty, I'm going to put a full Slick ignition system on my extra 260 which has a 315hp IO-540 that you built, What model slick mag would you use because it has 23* degree bendix on it now and would you install duel impulse mags. Steve Raddatz Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=163076#163076 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Chris East <lik_2_fly(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: Inflight camera's
Date: Feb 10, 2008
Hi, Wondering if anyone has any experiance with in flight video camera's. Havin g trouble finding reasonably high quality camera's as well as recorders tha t can take mutliple camera's without the quality degrading. Or do people just run individual video camera's for each remote head? cheers Chris _________________________________________________________________ Overpaid or Underpaid? Check our comprehensive Salary Centre 2Eau%2Fsalary%2Dcentre%3Fs%5Fcid%3D595810&_t=766724125&_r=Hotmail_Email _Tagline_MyCareer_Oct07&_m=EXT ________________________________________________________________________________
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=E5vard_N=E6r=F8_Iversen?= <haavard-iversen(at)c2i.net>
Subject: Inflight camera's
Date: Feb 10, 2008
Hello! You may check this out http://www.sports-camera.com/?gclid=COL849SHuZECFQgsQwodoG7dDQ Normally you use several cams with a selector. A TIP IS TO USE MEMORY CAM. That wont be disturbed by vibration. _____ Fra: owner-aerobatic-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-aerobatic-list-server(at)matronics.com] P=E5 vegne av Chris East Sendt: Sunday, February 10, 2008 7:16 AM Til: aerobatic-list(at)matronics.com Emne: Aerobatic-List: Inflight camera's Hi, Wondering if anyone has any experiance with in flight video camera's. Having trouble finding reasonably high quality camera's as well as recorders that can take mutliple camera's without the quality degrading. Or do people just run individual video camera's for each remote head? cheers Chris _____ Check our comprehensive Salary Centre Overpaid or Underpaid? om%2E au%2Fsalary%2Dcentre%3Fs%5Fcid%3D595810&_t=766724125&_r=Hotmail_Email _Taglin e_MyCareer_Oct07&_m=EXT> ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Mar 27, 2008
From: Mr Rudder <mr_rudder(at)aviaportal.net>
Subject: Howdy
Hello there fellow aviation enthusiasts! Please allow me to introduce a new website geared towards bringing pilots and non-pilots, hobbyists and professionals, together. HTTP://AVIAPORTAL.NET Our aim is to help aviators socialize, discuss and enjoy everything about wings and the sky. My friends and I developed this non-profit site with the goal to give back to and support the aviation community. We thought this would be best accomplished by providing a medium for members to share and discuss their passion through various features. This website is user-friendly and absolutely free of charge. Get the latest news and reports from the aviation world, as well as the following features that the website offers. Forums: these offer members the opportunity to post information, stories, tips and tricks about numerous aviation topics. We also have a free classified section to post items for sale or wanting to buy. Chat: chatting is live one-on-one discussion with other members. The possibilities here are endless, but lets keep it clean! Blog: blogging gives members the opportunity to randomly post thoughts, ideas, stories and commentaries without the structure of forums. Members are free to post about anything, anytime. Photo Album: members are allowed to post up to 50 MB of pictures. So lets see your planes, your projects and whatever else you have captured with your camera. Groups: this feature offers the option to create groups based on common interests. The groups can be private or public, goal-oriented or just for fun. Just a place to get together with aviator friends. Virtual events: have an upcoming event? This feature allows members to advertise for their future events, as well as report on past events. Posts can be accompanied by pictures. Messages: e-mail other aviation buffs with this feature, as long as mail recipients are aviaportal.net members. Whether youre interested in commercial or general aviation, light sport or ultralights, a career or a hobby, an interest or a passion, this website has something for you. Log on to http://aviaportal.net to sign up, and explore new heights. Have blue skies, Rudolph -- Best regards, Mr Rudder mr_rudder(at)aviaportal.net ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Mar 29, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Two New Lists Added to the Matronics Lineup!
Dear Listers, I've added two new Email Lists to the Matronics List and Forum lineup today. These include the Rans-List and RV12-List. Please surf over to the Matronics List Subscription page and sign up for these new Lists if they are of interest to you: http://www.matronics.com/subscribe Full support on the Forums, List Browse, Archives, etc. is available. Rans-List: http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Rans-List RV12-List http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV12-List Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Apr 20, 2008
From: Blake Lancaster <blakeandsue(at)sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Aerobatic-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 04/19/08
Please unsubscribe me from the Aerobatic-List. ----- Original Message ---- From: Aerobatic-List Digest Server <aerobatic-list(at)matronics.com> Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 2:55:37 AM Subject: Aerobatic-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 04/19/08 * ================================================= Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================= Today's complete Aerobatic-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the Aerobatic-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 08-04-19&Archive=Aerobatic Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 08-04-19&Archive=Aerobatic =============================================== EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive =============================================== ---------------------------------------------------------- Aerobatic-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 04/19/08: 0 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Apr 26, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Four New Email Lists At Matronics!!
Dear Listers, I have added four new Lists to the Matronics line up today. These include the following categories: Citabria-List Citabria, Decathlon, Scout, and Champ Zenith601-List Zenair Zodiac CH 601 Zenith640-List Zenair Zodiac CH 640 Zenith701801-List Zenair STOL CH 701 and CH 801 All services are enabled and now available including Search, Browse, Digest, Archives, Forums, Chat, etc., etc. etc...: Citabria: http://www.matronics.com/navigator?citabria-list Zenith601: http://www.matronics.com/navigator?zenith601-list Zenith640: http://www.matronics.com/navigator?zenith640-list Zenith701801: http://www.matronics.com/navigator?zenith701801-list To subscribe, go to the Matronics Email List Subscription Form: http://www.matronics.com/subscribe To check the new Lists out on the Matronics Forum go here: http://forums.matronics.com Enjoy the new Lists!! Don't forget me during the Fund Raiser! :-) Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 06, 2008
From: tonymtroy <yah67890(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Aviation microphone selfpowered circuit
Howdy I have searched the web for a mic preamp it seems like 1 transistor and powered via 4 diodes in a bridge. Has anyone a circuit? the purpose is for cupless headset http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/2310/oldmicap2dd6.jpg thanks Tony ________________________________________________________________________________
From: SD737(at)aol.com
Date: Aug 02, 2008
Subject: Wanted to buy 2 Parachutes-Cash
Hi guys, Anyone interested in selling a set of parachutes? I had 2 parachutes lined up to buy from a friend for my Yak-52, but he decided to keep all 4 of his chutes, so I'm back to trying to find 2 used seat chutes that someone out there no longer needs or might want to unload for cash. My wife is pregnant and is putting the squeeze on me to have parachutes when I fly the Yak. If anyone knows of someone that would like to sell their used chutes please have them contact me off the matronics list directly via my email which is _sd737(at)aol.com_ (mailto:sd737(at)aol.com) Again, please email me directly. Thanks guys, Scott Douglass Reno, Nv _sd737(at)aol.com_ (mailto:sd737(at)aol.com) **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 ) ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 12, 2008
From: culpspecial(at)yahoo.com
Subject: Yahoo! Auto Response
I am away from a computer until Sunday, September 14. I will respond to your email at that time. Thank you, Steve ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: BrightLine Bags Pilot Flight Bag
From: "BrightLine" <info(at)brightlinebags.com>
Date: Oct 27, 2008
Hello Everyone, My name is Bryan Smith and I am with a company called BrightLine Bags. Company is a loose term as there are two of us, but whos counting. I do not want to offend anybody by posting on this list, so I apologize in advance if I have. I am a student pilot as well. I posted on the Commander list with the help of a Commander owner and received wonderful response from quite a few Commander owners. We make a brand new type of Pilot Flight Bag. It is like nothing you have seen or used before. If you use a flight bag, I am quite certain that if you go to our website at www.brightlinebags.com and click on the demo video http://brightlinebags.ipower.com/videopage.html, you will be impressed. Thank you everyone for this forum. If you have any questions, you can contact me directly at bryan@brightlinebags.com. Bryan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=210553#210553 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/brightline_pilot_flight_bag_105.jpg ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 01, 2008
From: dralle(at)matronics.com
Subject: Matronics Email List Fund Raiser During November!
Dear Listers, Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operation and upgrade of the List services at Matronics. It's through soley through the Contributions of List members that these Matronics Lists are possible. You have probably noticed that there are no banner ads or pop-up windows on any of the Matronics Lists or related web sites such as the Forums site ( http://forums.matronics.com ), Wiki site ( http://wiki.matronics.com ), or other related pages such as the List Search Engine ( http://www.matronics.com/search ), List Browse ( http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse ), etc. This is because I believe in a List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely Airplanes and not about annoying advertisments. During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every few days reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. I ask for your patience and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages. The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all of the bills associated with running these lists. Your personal Contribution counts. Once again, this year I've got a terrific line up of free gifts to go along with the various Contribution levels. Most all of these gifts have been provided by some of the vary members and vendors that you'll find on Matronics Lists and have been either donated or provided at substantially discounted rates. This year, these generous people include Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric Connection (http://www.aeroelectric.com/), Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore (http://www.buildersbooks.com/), and Jon Croke of HomebuiltHELP (http://www.homebuilthelp.com/). These are extremely generous guys and I encourage you to visit their respective web sites. Each one offers a unique and very useful aviation-related product line. I would like publicly to thank Bob, Andy, and Jon for their generous support of the Lists again this year!! You can make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods this year including using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. All three methods afford you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying Contribution amount!! To make your Contribution, please visit the secure site below: https://www.matronics.com/contribution I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral support over the years. I know it sounds a little cliche, but you guys really do feel like family. Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 01, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Contribution Site URL Clarification
Dear Listers, In my List Fund Raiser kickoff email last night, I mistyped the URL for the *initial* Contribution web site and couple of people reported receiving SSL certificate errors. The actual payment entry pages where were correct, however, so there were no certificate issues that impacted payment data. I'm sorry for the confusion. Please use the following URL to start your List Contribution: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 01, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Matronics Email List Fund Raiser During November!
Dear Listers, Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operation and upgrade of the List services at Matronics. It's through solely through the Contributions of List members that these Matronics Lists are possible. You have probably noticed that there are no banner ads or pop-up windows on any of the Matronics Lists or related web sites such as the Forums site ( http://forums.matronics.com ), Wiki site ( http://wiki.matronics.com ), or other related pages such as the List Search Engine ( http://www.matronics.com/search ), List Browse ( http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse ), etc. This is because I believe in a List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely Airplanes and not about annoying advertisements. During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every few days reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. I ask for your patience and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages. The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all of the bills associated with running these lists. Your personal Contribution counts. Once again, this year I've got a terrific line up of free gifts to go along with the various Contribution levels. Most all of these gifts have been provided by some of the vary members and vendors that you'll find on Matronics Lists and have been either donated or provided at substantially discounted rates. This year, these generous people include Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric Connection (http://www.aeroelectric.com/), Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore (http://www.buildersbooks.com/), and Jon Croke of HomebuiltHELP (http://www.homebuilthelp.com/). These are extremely generous guys and I encourage you to visit their respective web sites. Each one offers a unique and very useful aviation-related product line. I would like publicly to thank Bob, Andy, and Jon for their generous support of the Lists again this year!! You can make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods this year including using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. All three methods afford you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying Contribution amount!! To make your Contribution, please visit the secure site below: http://www.matronics.com/contribution I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral support over the years. I know it sounds a little cliche, but you guys really do feel like family. Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 03, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists...
Dear Listers, Just a reminder that November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these great List services!! Pick up a really nice free gift with your qualifying Contribution too! The Contribution Site is fast and easy: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 05, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: List Fund Raiser
A couple of years ago I implemented an automatic "squelch button" of sorts for the Fund Raiser messages. Here's how it works... As soon as a List member makes a Contribution through the Matronics Fund Raiser web site, he or she will instantly cease to receive these Fund Raiser messages for the rest of the month! Its just that simple. Don't you wish PBS worked that way! :-) I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware and software that are required to run a List Site like this. It also goes to pay for the commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the huge electric bill to keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered on. I run all of the Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which allows me to control and monitor every aspect of the system for the utmost in reliably and performance. Your personal Contribution matters because, when combined with other Listers such as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up and running. I accept exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand the pop-up ads and all other commercials that are so prevalent on the Internet these days and I particularly don't want to have it on my Email List sites. If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator [Note that there are certain circumstances where you might still see a Contribution related message. For example, if someone replies to one of the messages, when using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum. The system keys on the given email address and since most of these are anonymous public access methods, there is no simple way to filter them.] ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "steve, ashley and corbin" <gobigred(at)sio.midco.net>
Subject: Re: Contribution Site URL Clarification
Date: Nov 05, 2008
Please stop e-mailing ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Dralle" <dralle(at)matronics.com> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 10:01 AM Subject: Aerobatic-List: Contribution Site URL Clarification > > Dear Listers, > > In my List Fund Raiser kickoff email last night, I mistyped the URL for > the *initial* Contribution web site and couple of people reported > receiving SSL certificate errors. The actual payment entry pages where > were correct, however, so there were no certificate issues that impacted > payment data. I'm sorry for the confusion. > > Please use the following URL to start your List Contribution: > > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > Thank you for your support! > > Matt Dralle > Matronics Email List Administrator > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 06, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Reminder
Dear Listers, Just a quick reminder that November is the annual List Fund Raiser. The Matronics Lists are 100% member supported and all of the operational costs are provided for my your Contributions during this time of the year. Your personal Contribution makes a difference and keeps all of the Matronics Email Lists and Forums completely ad-free. Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 10, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Fund Raiser List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution
Today! Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its sort of my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors (LOC)? As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems at least - if not a whole lot more - valuable as a building/flying/recreating/entertainment tool as your typical magazine subscription! Please take minute and assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics PO Box 347 Livermore CA 94551-0347 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 12, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists
Dear Listers, There is no advertising income to support the Matronics Email Lists and Forums. The operation is supported 100% by your personal Contributions during the November Fund Raiser. Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution too! You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore, CA 94551-0347 Thank you in advance for your generous support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 14, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Fund Raiser Lagging Last Year By Over 30%...
As of the 13th, the Fund Raiser is currently about 30% behind last year in terms of the number of Contributions. Yet, oddly the number of messages posted per day is up by 10 to 20% on the average. It costs real money to run these Lists and they are supported 100% though your Contributions during the Fund Raiser. Won't you please take a minute right now to make your Contribution to keep these Lists up and running? Contribution Page: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Admin. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 16, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: What's My Contribution Used For?
Dear Listers, Some have asked, "What's my Contribution used for?" and that's a good question. Here are just a few examples of what your direct List support enables. It provides for the very expensive, commercial-grade T1 Internet connection used on the List insuring maximum performance and minimal contention when accessing List services. It pays for the regular system hardware and software upgrades enabling the highest performance possible for services such as the Archive Search Engine, List Browser, and Forums. It pays for 19+ years worth of online archive data available for instant random search and access. And, it offsets the many hours spent writing, developing, and maintaining the custom applications that power this List Service such as the List Browse, Search Engine, Forums, Wiki and PhotoShare. But most importantly, your List Contribution enables a forum where you and your peers can communicate freely in an environment that is free from moderation, censorship, advertising, commercialism, SPAM, and computer viruses. How many places on the Internet can you make all those statements these days? It is YOUR CONTRIBUTION that directly enables these many aspects of these valuable List services. Please support it today with your List Contribution. Its one of the best investments you can make in your Sport... List Contribution Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 18, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: What Members Are Saying...
Dear Listers, November is the Annual Matronics List Fund Raiser. The Lists are supported solely through your generous Contributions during this time. Please make your Contribution today and pick up a really nice free gift at this same time: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Listers have been including some really nice comments regarding what the Lists mean to them along with their Contributions this year. I've included a few of them below. Please read them over and see if some perhaps echo your feelings as well. Thank you for your support this year! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Best bargain in the entire industry!! -Owen B Every year your lists are better, sure #1 in e-mail list in the world. -Gary G Thank you for an awesome site! -Ashley M Your lists are important to me and well worth paying for. -Calvin A Thank you for providing such and informative and ad free environment to learn by. -Myron H As always, a valuable and extremely useful resource. Stephen T As always, a great service. -Reade G Very much appreciate this site and the communications it has enabled between builders. -Larry M This service is worth every penny. -Robert S Great site! Thanks a ton for its functionality! -Peter B The RV-10 list feels like my community. -Dave S The lists are fantastic, a great source! -Jimmy Y I've learned a lot from the List. -Gabriel F A wonderful resource. -Gerald G Well done. -Richard N Years of good service. -William M Valuable service. -Keith H The site is quite helpful. -Jon M Very interesting List that I read form the beginning. -Alain L A well managed site. -Carl B Great service. -Svein Kare J Still the most useful program on the computer. -Fergus K Great contribution to my project! -Robert K Thanks for keeping a great list. -Dt G The List continues to provide excellent information. -Tony C This is a wonderful resource that has easily saved me a bunch on my build-time. -Ralph C Thank you for providing a great service. The Zenith builder's community would be in sad shape without the Zenith-List's. -Terrence P I really do get pleasure out of reading the List every day. -Bill V Great source of information. -Arthur V Thanks for a great service. Very enjoyable. -Louis B You know we all could not do without your support!! -James S Great resource! -Douglas D Thanks for the great service. -John B ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 20, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Behind By 21% - Advertising May Be Needed...?
Dear Listers, The percentage of people making a Contribution to support the Lists this year is currently lagging behind last year by approximately 21%! I'm hoping that everyone is just waiting until the last minute to show their support... ;-) Please remember that it is solely your direct Contributions that keep these Lists up and running and most importantly - AD FREE! If the members don't want to support the Lists directly, then I will likely have to start adding advertisements to offset the costs of running the Lists. But I *really* don't want to have to start doing that. I really like the non-commercial atmosphere here and I think that a lot of the members appreciate that too. Please take a moment to make a Contribution today in support of the continued ad-free operation of all these Lists: http://www.matronics.com/contribution I want to send out a word of appreciation to all of the members that have already made their generous Contribution to support the Lists! Thank you! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 22, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: LOC
Dear Listers, Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its sort of my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors (LOC)? As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems at least - if not a whole lot more - valuable as a building/flying/recreating/entertainment tool as your typical magazine subscription! Please take minute and assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by popping a personal check in the mail to: Matronics Email Lists c/o Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore CA 94551-0347 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Best regards, Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 24, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Value of the List...
If you look forward to checking your List email everyday (and a lot of you have written to say that you do!), then you're probably getting at least $20 or $30 worth of Entertainment from the Lists each year. You'd pay twice that for a subscription to some lame magazine or even just a single dinner out. Isn't the List worth at least that much to you? Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support the Lists? Contribution Page: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Again, I want to say THANK YOU to everyone that has made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser!! These Lists are made possible exclusively through YOUR generosity!! Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Admin. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 26, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just A Few More Days...
Dear Listers, There are just a few more days left in this year's List Fund Raiser. There are some great gifts available when you make a qualifying Contribution and there's plenty still available. Don't forget that its *your* Contribution that keeps the computers running, the electricity turned on, and the computer room AC cooling! If you look forward to reading your List email each day, won't you please take a minute right now to make your personal Contribution? Credit Card or Paypal: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Personal Check: Matronics / Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 28, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just 3 Days Left - Please Make Your List Contribution
Today! There are only three days left until the end of this year's List Fund Raiser. Please take a minute to show your support as so many others have this year and make sure YOUR name is on the forthcoming List of Contributors 2008! Its quick and easy using the secure web site with a credit card or PayPal: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by sending your personal check to: Matronics Lists c/o Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore, CA 94551-0347 (Please write your email address on the check!) Thank you in advance for your support of these List services! Matt Dralle Matronics Email and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 29, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: What Listers Have Been Saying
Wow! Many of the members making a List Support Contribution this year have been using the Comments field to leave a personal message about the Lists. Thank you! I have included a number of them below. Please read over a few and see if you perhaps can echo some of the same sentiments regarding the value of the Lists to you... There is only a couple more days left for this year's List Fund Raiser and we're still way behind previous years. If you've been waiting until the last minute to show your support, Now is the Time! Please make your Contribution and pick up a great gift at the same time! By Credit Card or Paypal: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or By Personal Check: Matronics / Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore, CA 94550-7227 Thank you in advance!! Matt Dralle Email List and Forums Administrator Here is some of the great feedback members have been including along with their personal Contributions this year... Over the years, the info I have received from the RV-List has saved me thousands of dollars, and dozens of hours of time by helping me avoid bad purchases, pointing me at vendors with low prices and excellent support, and providing solutions to the typical head scratchers that you run into. Kevin H Valuable service. Best List(s) on the Internet! George A Please accept this token not as an indicator of what this list has been worth to me this past year. Lew G Great information and entertainment. Tim V Thanks again for another great year of service. This project would be beyond me if it were not for the list. Moreover, the friendships I have found are worth their weight in GOLD! Robert B Great support you provide to all the subscribers! Freddie H Read it every day. PF B Thanks for your excellent management of the Matronics Lists! Your services are head and shoulders above the rest. James M Without the "List", there would be no Kolb "community". Bill T Thanks, Matt, for a great service! I've been monitoring and using the lists since 1999. Richard D Thanks for such a terrific site and for all the work and effort you put into it. John R A great service year after year. John D ..another year of fantastic service. Jerry B This list is a great resource. Arden A Great list. James M Lists were a great help while building HRII N561FS. John S Great resources for both the beginner and experienced. George R Good service. Gary G The List is an invaluable resource! William C AeroElectric list is a great source of info and learning! Janice J Thank you, Matt for being there for us making it all happen on the List for so many years - Great JOB! Sam S Thank you for providing a great venue. You definitely hit the nail on the head with your solicitation asking if readers look forward to receiving the email digests. I certainly do and when I move from a dreamer to a builder, I expect the anticipation will only increase. Joe S Thanks for a Perfect working list. Hans-Peter R Great List Bryan K Such a great selection of valuable forums! David G Nice job! Walt E Good resource... Robert P Thank you for another great year! Scott S I could not do this without you... Robert D I believe I've been a list member for over a decade now. Thanks for the service! Tim L Great List Hendrik W ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 30, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Last "Official" Day Of The List Fund Raiser!
Dear Listers, Its November 30th and that means three things:.. 1) Today I am now officially 45 years old... 2) It marks that last "official" day of this year's List Fund Raiser! 3) Its the last day I will be bugging everyone for a whole year! If you use the Lists and enjoy the content and the no-advertising, no-spam, and no-censorship way in which they're run, please make a Contribution today to support their continued operation and upkeep. Your $20 or $30 goes a long way to keep the List bills paid. I will be posting the List of Contributors next week so make sure your name is on it! Thank you to everyone that has made a Contribution so far this year! It is greatly appreciated. http://www.matronics.com/contribution Best regards, Matt Dralle Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 08, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: List of Contributors 2008
Dear Listers, This year's Fund Raiser has drawn to a close and I want to thank everyone that so generously made a contribution this year in support of the Matronics Email List and Forum operation. Your generosity keeps the wheels on this cart and I truly appreciate the many kind words of encouragement and financial reimbursement. If you haven't yet made a Contribution in support of this year's Fund Raiser, please feel free to do so. The great List Fund Raiser gifts will be available on the Contribution site for a little while longer, so hurry and make your Contribution today and still get your great gift! Once again, the URL for the Contribution web site is: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by personal check to: Matronics / Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore CA 94551-0347 I would like to thank Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore ( http://www.buildersbooks.com ), Jon Croke of HomebuiltHELP ( http://www.homebuilthelp.com ) and Bob Nuckolls of AeroElectric ( http://www.aeroelectric.com ) for their extremely generous support during this year's Fund Raiser through the contribution of discounted merchandise. These are great guys that support the aviation industry and I encourage each and every Lister to have a look at their products. Thank you Andy, Jon and Bob!! Your support is very much appreciated! And finally, below you will find a web link to the 2008 List of Contributors current as of 12/7/08! Have a look at this list of names as *these* are the people that make all of these List services possible! I can't thank each of you enough for your support and great feedback during this year's Fund Raiser! THANK YOU! http://www.matronics.com/loc/2008.html I will be shipping out all of the gifts around the end of December. In most cases, gifts will be shipped via US Postal Service. Once again, thank you for making this year's List Fund Raiser successful! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Zoe Adjonyoh <zadjonyoh(at)airsports.tv>
Subject: Re: Aerobatic-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 12/17/08
Date: Dec 18, 2008
Hi there, just announcing a live broadcast from Al Ain Aerobatics Show and Aero GP Details below. Merry Christmas EXCLUSIVE LIVE BROADCAST OF AERO GP 2009 High-speed formula one style Air Racing series, Aero GP (www.aero- gp.com) will be broadcast live online in January 2009 to motorsport fans worldwide at Airsports.tv (www.airsports.tv) Al Ain, U.A.E. is the location for the first grand prix of the 2009 Aero GP air racing series. The Aero GP will be the main event of the prestigious Al Ain Aerobatic Show which will be broadcast LIVE from 30 31 January 2009 on the new online TV channel, Airsports.tv. Airsports.tv broadcasts features of top-level air sports competitions worldwide and boasts an ever-increasing number of avid enthusiasts tuning in regularly to watch. Now online viewers have the capacity to watch exclusive live broadcasts of high profile competitions such as the Aero GP the only international air racing series with multiple airplanes competing against each other at the same time (pylon racing). Aero GP is already broadcast on television to over 300 million homes worldwide, now motorsports and air racing fans can get free and exclusive access to the fastest motorsport series in the world in real time straight right from their desktops. Online viewers will be able to see each round of the most exciting and difficult competition elements, which include: 1. Air Race Six aircraft in the circuit at the same time racing against each other just metres above the ground at speeds of up to 500mph. 2. Air Combat Two pilots compete head-to-head in a battle for air supremacy 3. Barnstorming Various stunts ranging from aerobatics to limbo flying. In Al Ain, pilots will compete in a real target bombing competition. Jeff Zaltman, Managing Director of Aero GP, said We are extremely proud to be bringing the Aero GP to the region and are excited to showcase our sport to a new audience both in Al Ain and Online. For more information visit www.airsports.tv. - ends - Notes to Editors: For more information on Airsports.tv please contact: Zo Adjonyoh zadjonyoh(at)airsports.tv , +44(0)207 554 8650 About Aero GP Flying Aces Ltd, based in London UK, owns and manages global media rights connected to top-level aviation sport. Flying Aces is the organiser of the internationally televised Aero GP air racing series. For more info visit www.aero-gp.com Contact: Dylan Lloyd, dylan.lloyd(at)flyingaces.co.uk, +44(0)207 554 8650 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Dylan Caldwell <macquistan(at)mac.com>
Subject: Re: Aerobatic-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 12/23/08
Date: Dec 24, 2008
Hi, is there anyone on this list? Is there anyone flying aerobatics in gliders? Dylan ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 24, 2008
From: Rick Basiliere <discrab(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Aerobatic-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 12/23/08
Yes, and yes, but not me in gliders. Kline Gilhousen and all the zoomies from Air Force Academy in CO Springs, to name a few. Rick b -----Original Message----- >From: Dylan Caldwell <macquistan(at)mac.com> >Sent: Dec 24, 2008 1:02 AM >To: aerobatic-list(at)matronics.com >Subject: Aerobatic-List: Re: Aerobatic-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 12/23/08 > > >Hi, > is there anyone on this list? Is there anyone flying aerobatics in >gliders? > Dylan > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 24, 2008
From: Markus Feyerabend <feyerabm(at)web.de>
Subject: Re: Aerobatic-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 12/23/08
Hi, Yes, me for example! ;-) Markus > -----Ursprngliche Nachricht----- > Von: "Dylan Caldwell" > Gesendet: 24.12.08 09:10:18 > An: aerobatic-list(at)matronics.com > Betreff: Aerobatic-List: Re: Aerobatic-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 12/23/08 > > Hi, > is there anyone on this list? Is there anyone flying aerobatics in > gliders? > Dylan > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Lone00Star(at)aol.com
Date: Dec 25, 2008
Subject: Re: Aerobatic-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 12/24/08
Yup me in Hawaii cruise in my Libelle and " RIP" in the FOX> Life is good, Linne' **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Rob Stapleton, Jr." <foto(at)alaska.net>
Subject: Re: Aerobatic-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 12/23/08
Date: Dec 25, 2008
Yes to the list question, check the www.eglider.org site and post a question to Thomas Knauff. Merry Christmas! Rob Stapleton, Photojournalist Anchorage, Alaska 907-230-9425 KL2AN Skype:rob.stapleton.jr IM Windows Live Messenger: foto(at)alaska.net -----Original Message----- From: owner-aerobatic-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-aerobatic-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dylan Caldwell Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 11:02 PM Subject: Aerobatic-List: Re: Aerobatic-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 12/23/08 Hi, is there anyone on this list? Is there anyone flying aerobatics in gliders? Dylan ________________________________________________________________________________
From: DrJSherm(at)aol.com
Date: Dec 29, 2008
Subject: Re: Aerobatic-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 12/25/08
Recently got reply re motor glider experience...great read...and now I can't locate it! Would sender poss be able to resend....drjsherm(at)aol.com **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 30, 2008
From: Markus Feyerabend <feyerabm(at)web.de>
Subject: Re: Aerobatic-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 12/23/08
Dylan, did you have a particular question in mind then? Or why did you ask? Markus > -----Ursprngliche Nachricht----- > Von: "Dylan Caldwell" > Gesendet: 24.12.08 09:10:18 > An: aerobatic-list(at)matronics.com > Betreff: Aerobatic-List: Re: Aerobatic-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 12/23/08 > > Hi, > is there anyone on this list? Is there anyone flying aerobatics in > gliders? > Dylan > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Dylan Caldwell <macquistan(at)mac.com>
Subject: Re: Aerobatic-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 12/30/08
Date: Jan 01, 2009
Hi, Markus, I don't have a specific question at this time. I was trying to find other people who fly aerobatics in gliders. I have a B4 and took some lessons from Jason Stephens in Oct and plan to go back this spring. Eventually, I would like to try competing. Dylan ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 06, 2009
From: Markus Feyerabend <feyerabm(at)web.de>
Subject: Re: Aerobatic-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 12/30/08
Hi Dylan, Ok, I see. Should you have any glider aerobatics related questions in the future, feel free to ask at any time! Even though the glider aerobatics community might be small here, the experience is quite high (from sportsman up to international unlimited level). Regards and have fun with your B4, Markus > -----Ursprngliche Nachricht----- > Von: "Dylan Caldwell" > Gesendet: 01.01.09 07:57:37 > An: aerobatic-list(at)matronics.com > Betreff: Aerobatic-List: Re: Aerobatic-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 12/30/08 > > Hi, Markus, > I don't have a specific question at this time. I was trying to find > other people who fly aerobatics in gliders. I have a B4 and took some > lessons from Jason Stephens in Oct and plan to go back this spring. > Eventually, I would like to try competing. > Dylan > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Zoe Adjonyoh <zadjonyoh(at)airsports.tv>
Subject: Re: Aerobatic-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 01/28/09
Date: Jan 29, 2009
> Dear Editor, Please find below a press release titled: 'AERO GP air race goes LIVE online with Airsports.tv' for possible inclusion in your publication. January 29 2009 London AERO GP air race goes LIVE online with Airsports.tv Nicknamed the Formula One of aviation; the Aero GP air race series (www.aero-gp.com ) will be broadcast live online on 30-31 January 2009 to air racing fans worldwide at Airsports.tv (www.airsports.tv) The live broadcast comes as part of a celebration of the centenary of air racing and the Aero GPs debut in the Middle East. The Aero GP will be the first competitive multiple airplane race of its kind in the region and the main event of the prestigious Al Ain Aerobatic Show. Both spectacular events will be broadcast LIVE on 30 31 January 2009 on the new online TV channel, Airsports.tv. Airsports.tv broadcasts features of top-level air sports competitions worldwide and is fast becoming a focal point for the air sports community. Jeff Zaltman, Managing Director of Aero GP, said We want to share the excitement and enthusiasm of this amazing sport with as many people as possible and get competitive air racing noticed by the wider sporting community. The online broadcast with Airsports.tv is an essential part of the process. Viewers who tune in will see all aspects of the Aero GP events with live commentary including: 1. Pylon Air Race Five aircraft racing simultaneously around a tight circuit, 20 feet off the ground at at speeds of up to 500kph. 2. Dog Fighting Two pilots compete head-to-head in a battle for air supremacy in an air combat round 3. Target Bombing As part of the Barnstorming round pilots will perform various aerobatic stunts and compete in a real target bombing competition. The impressive line up of world-class pilots includes: Richard Smokey Young, Andy Bickmore, Zoltan Veres, Gerald Cooper and Mark Jefferies. Broadcast times: 30 - 31 January 2009 09:00am - 14:00pm GMT London 13:00 - 18:00 Local time - ends - Notes to Editors: Full pilot biographies and images are available, for more information contact: Zo Adjonyoh zadjonyoh(at)airsports.tv , (+44 20 31 7 35 34) About Aero GP Flying Aces Ltd, based in London UK, owns and manages global media rights connected to top-level aviation sport. Flying Aces is the organiser of the internationally televised Aero GP air racing series. For more info visit www.aero-gp.com Contact: Dylan Lloyd, dylan.lloyd(at)flyingaces.co.uk, (+44 20 31 78 35 30) ________________________________________________________________________________
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Subject: Teach your kid to use the internet
From: "Jenx" <godwinwallace(at)gmail.com>
Date: Apr 27, 2009
My husband and I are very busy in our respective professions. That leaves us with very little time for our adolescent twin daughters. Sometimes it so happens that we are even unable to meet on a certain day due to all our schedules. I want to install a safe internet connection at home, so that I can at least communicate with my daughters. At the same time I fear their exposure to vulgar and adult sites. Is there any such service provider? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=241482#241482 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Teach your kid to use the internet
From: "jolie" <ethanfernadez(at)gmail.com>
Date: Apr 30, 2009
A friend of mine recently availed services of www.kidsemail.org for his eleven year old son. Kidsemail.com enables safe internet access for kids, without them stumbling upon forbidden sites with adult content. You can check out the site for details and all the features they are offering. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=242055#242055 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Teach your kid to use the internet
From: "nn2211nn" <nn2211nn(at)gmail.com>
Date: May 28, 2009
Enjoy the Internet along with your children. 2. Teach your kids to trust their ... Get tips by age to help guide your children's use of the Internet: ... Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=245846#245846 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Hot offer for aircraft parts
From: "Nanchang CJ6" <liutiantian1987(at)hotmail.com>
Date: Jul 21, 2009
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Subject: Aircraft Tyres For Sale
From: "Nanchang CJ6" <lcdzkj(at)live.cn>
Date: Jul 21, 2009
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Subject: Hot offer for Nanchang CJ-6 aircraft parts
From: "Nanchang CJ6" <lcdzkj(at)live.cn>
Date: Jul 21, 2009
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From: Zoe Adjonyoh <zadjonyoh(at)airsports.tv>
Subject: Support the World Aerobatic Championships 2009
Date: Aug 04, 2009
Hi all, Hope you are well. I was wondering whether you would mind adding a link to our live broadcast of the World Aerobatic Championships 2009 (http://www.airsports.tv/worldaerobaticchampionshiplive.asp ) We're really excited to be part of the event and looking for aviation sites and aerobatic clubs and flying schools to share the news of the live broadcast so everyone can be a part of it. We're always looking for contributors to the site, whether providing video content of important sports competitions or if you would like to write articles and sports updates, please do not hesitate to get in touch with me. Best, Zoe Zoe Adjonyoh Airsports.tv Email: zadjonyoh(at)airsports.tv Airsports.tv =88=99 Flying Aces =88=99 Aero GP =88=99 World Aerobatic Championships This electronic mail message (e-mail) and any files transmitted with it are privileged and confidential information and intended solely for the use of the addressee. Neither the confidentiality nor any privilege in this e-mail is waived, lost or destroyed by reason that it has been transmitted other than to the addressee. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Andrew Love <torque_roll(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: Support the World Aerobatic Championships 2009
Date: Aug 04, 2009
Hi Zoe=2C I have forwarded the email to our AErobatic Club President here in New Zeal and. I for one am very excited about being able to watch the competition on line as I follow the worlds closely. Best Regards=2C Andrew Love Andrew Love Contracting trading as AWL Air Services and Nu Look Window Cleaning Services P +64 3 451 0396 I F +64 3 451 0395 I M +64 21 81 8 816 From: zadjonyoh(at)airsports.tv Subject: Aerobatic-List: Support the World Aerobatic Championships 2009 Date: Tue=2C 4 Aug 2009 09:08:32 +0100 Hi all=2C Hope you are well. I was wondering whether you would mind adding a link to our live broadcast of the World Aerobatic Championships 2009 (http://www.airsports.tv/worldaer obaticchampionshiplive.asp) We're really excited to be part of the event and looking for aviation sites and aerobatic clubs and flying schools to share the news of the live broad cast so everyone can be a part of it. We're always looking for contributors to the site=2C whether providing vide o content of important sports competitions or if you would like to write ar ticles and sports updates=2C please do not hesitate to get in touch with me . Best=2C Zoe Zoe Adjonyoh Airsports.tv Email: zadjonyoh(at)airsports.tv Airsports.tv - Flying Aces - Aero GP - World Aerobatic Cha mpionships This electronic mail message (e-mail) and any files transmitted with it are privileged and confidential information and intended solely for the use of the addressee. 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Subject: Re: Teach your kid to use the internet
From: "laracroft" <laracroft4321(at)gmail.com>
Date: Oct 31, 2009
Hi Jenx, Me Lara croft and I read your post, I am giving you solutions. You can get Internet from any ISP. You just need MS Windows Vista Operating System installed on your computer system. There is a option given in control penal for Family Security. When you activate it. It will restrict porn and adult sites. If you have other windows family operating system, you can use K9 Web protections software for blocking of unwanted and adult,porn sites. This application software is freely available on Internet. -------- R4games Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=270213#270213 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 01, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: PLEASE READ - Matronics Email List Fund Raiser During
November! Dear Listers, Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operation and upgrade of the List services at Matronics. It's solely through the Contributions of List members that these Matronics Lists are possible. There is NO advertising to support the Lists. You might have noticed the conspicuous lack of flashing banners and annoying pop-ups on the Matronics Email List email messages and web site pages such as the Matronics List Forums ( http://forums.matronics.com ), the List Wiki ( http://wiki.matronics.com), or other related pages such as the List Search Engine ( http://www.matronics.com/search ), the List Browser ( http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse ), etc. This is because I believe in a List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely Airplanes and not about annoying advertisements. During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every couple of days reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. I ask for your patience and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages. The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all of the bills associated with running these lists. Your personal Contribution counts! Once again, this year I've got a terrific line up of free gifts to go along with the various Contribution levels. Most all of these gifts have been provided by some of the vary members and vendors that you'll find on Matronics Lists and have been either donated or provided at substantially discounted rates. This year, these generous people include Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric Connection (http://www.aeroelectric.com/), Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore (http://www.buildersbooks.com/), and Jon Croke of HomebuiltHELP (http://www.homebuilthelp.com/). These are extremely generous guys and I encourage you to visit their respective web sites. Each one offers a unique and very useful aviation-related product line. I would like publicly to thank Bob, Andy, and Jon for their generous support of the Lists again this year!! You can make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods this year including using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. All three methods afford you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying Contribution amount!! To make your Contribution, please visit the secure site below: http://www.matronics.com/contribution I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral support over the years! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 03, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: November List Fund Raiser
A couple of years ago I implemented an automatic "squelch button" of sorts for the Fund Raiser messages. Here's how it works... As soon as a List member makes a Contribution through the Matronics Fund Raiser web site, he or she will instantly cease to receive these Fund Raiser messages for the rest of the month! Its just that simple. Don't you wish PBS worked that way! :-) I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware and software that are required to run a List Site such as this one. It also goes to pay for the commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the huge electric bill to keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered on. I run all of the Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which allows me to control and monitor every aspect of the system for the utmost in reliably and performance. Your personal Contribution matters because, when combined with other Listers such as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up and running. I accept exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand the pop-up ads and all other commercials that are so prevalent on the Internet these days and I particularly don't want to have it on my Email List sites. If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator [Note that there are certain circumstances where you might still see a Contribution related message. For example, if someone replies to one of the messages, when using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum. The system keys on the given email address and since most of these are anonymous public access methods, there is no simple way to filter them.] ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 05, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Reminder
Dear Listers, Just a quick reminder that November is the annual List Fund Raiser. The Matronics Lists are 100% member supported and all of the operational costs are provided for my your Contributions during this time of the year. Your personal Contribution makes a difference and keeps all of the Matronics Email Lists and Forums completely ad-free. Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 07, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists
Dear Listers, There is no advertising income to support the Matronics Email Lists and Forums. The operation is supported 100% by your personal Contributions during the November Fund Raiser. Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution too! You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore, CA 94551-0347 Thank you in advance for your generous support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 09, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Fund Raiser List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution
Today! Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors (LOC)? As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems at least - if not a whole lot more - valuable as a building/flying/recreating/entertainment tool as your typical magazine subscription! Please take minute and assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics PO Box 347 Livermore CA 94551-0347 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 11, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: List Fund Raiser
Dear Listers, Just a reminder that November is the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser month. There are some very nice incentive gifts to choose from as well! Please make your Contribution today: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 13, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Some Very Nice Comments...
Dear Listers, I've been getting some really nice comments from Listers along with their List Support Contributions. I've shared some of them below. Please read them over and see what your fellow Listers think of the Lists and Forums. Please make a Contribution today to support the continued upgrade and operation of these services. There are lots of sweet gifts available, so browse the extensive selection and pickup a nice item along with your qualifying Contribution. http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you in advance for your generous support! It is very much appreciated! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ----------- What Listers Are Saying About The Lists ----------- Few things in life bring more usefulness than the List. This is worth every penny! Stephen T. I have enjoyed the list for way too many years, but continue to get closer to flying my project with the help of listers. C.L. Thanks for this List. It's been a great source of encouragement and information. Arden A. Great service! Gerald T. It's always interesting reading the lists and I've gotten some good help from the issues and answers there. Steve T. Been a member of the List for 12 years. Keep up the good work. John H. Great Site! Harry M. Great source of information... Martin H. Thanks for providing this great service! Jeff P. I continue to get and give information through these lists. Ralph C. This is a wonderful resource! Warren H. This is what inernet was meant for, sharing information and experience. Michael W. Thanks for making such a good list! Fred D. Thanks for running a great service! Michael F. I really appreciate it. Dan H. Thanks for the great service. Michael L. Thanks for maintaining this great resource. John C. Your sites have been a great resourses and an introduction to many competent aircraft designers and fabricators. Jon M. Thanks for all that you do to maintain the Matronics forums and for the personal help that you have been to me in answering my questions regarding the use of the forums. William B. [The List] helped me get flying, fly off my test hours and make my systems better. Ralph C. The Universe is a better place because of you. Eric J. ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: R4 Game Card
From: "lucaslendies" <lucaslendies(at)sify.com>
Date: Nov 13, 2009
R4 Game Card If you have a Nintendo DS or Nintendo DS Lite, you will definitely need the R4 Card. Why? The R4 Game Card enhances the power of your Nintendo device and enables you to enjoy games even better. With the R4 Game Card, you have considerable storage space, so much so that you can use it to browse pictures, watch movies, enjoy listening to your favorite audio files, read E-Books and much more. The R4 Card has the standard FAT system and you can use it with a host of micro SD cards. It supports different speed levels for the many types of micro SD cards that you use with your Nintendo DS or Nintendo DS Lite device. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=272645#272645 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 16, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Contributions Down By 21%...
Dear Listers, As of today, contributions to the Matronics List Fund Raiser are lagging behind last year at this time by 21%. I have a fund raiser each year simply to cover my operating costs for the Lists. I *do not* accept any advertising income to support the Lists and rely solely on the contributions of members to keep the expenses paid. I run all of my own servers and they are housed here locally, and the Internet connection is a commercial-grade, T1 connection with public address space. I also maintain a full backup system that does nightly backups of all List-related data so that in the event of a server crash or worse, all of the Lists and the many years of List archive data could be restored onto a new server in a matter of hours. All of this costs a fair amount of money, not to mention a significant amount of my personal time as well. I have a Fund Raiser each year to cover these costs and I ask that members that feel they receive a benefit from my investments, make a modest contribution each year to support the continued operation and upgrade of these services. If you enjoy the Lists, please make a contribution today. I also offer some incentive gifts for larger contribution levels. At the Contribution Web Wite, you can use a credit card, Paypal, or personal check to show your support for the continuation of these services: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 18, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: What's My Contribution Used For?
Dear Listers, Some have asked, "What's my Contribution used for?" and that's a good question. Here are just a few examples of what your direct List support enables. It provides for the very expensive, commercial-grade T1 Internet connection used on the List insuring maximum performance and minimal contention when accessing List services. It pays for the regular system hardware and software upgrades enabling the highest performance possible for services such as the Archive Search Engine, List Browser, and Forums. It pays for narly 20 years (yeah, I really said *20* years) worth of online archive data available for instant random search and access. And, it offsets the many hours spent writing, developing, and maintaining the custom applications that power this List Service such as the List Browse, Search Engine, Forums, and Wiki. But most importantly, your List Contribution enables a forum where you and your peers can communicate freely in an environment that is free from moderation, censorship, advertising, commercialism, SPAM, and computer viruses. How many places on the Internet can you make all those statements these days? It is YOUR CONTRIBUTION that directly enables these many aspects of these valuable List services. Please support it today with your List Contribution. Its one of the best investments you can make in your Sport... List Contribution Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 20, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just A Few Days Left; Still Trailing Last Year...
Dear Listers, There are just a few more days left of this year's List Fund Raiser! Response has been very good, but still well behind last year. If you've been waiting until the last minute to make your contribution and maybe even pick up a great gift, now might be good time to show your support! Please remember that there isn't any sort of commercial advertising on the Lists and the *only* means of keeping these Lists running is through your Contributions during this Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution today! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 22, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published
in December! Dear Listers, The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matronics / Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore CA 94551-0347 USA (Please include your email address on the check!) I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 24, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just A Few More Days To Make Your List Contribution...
There is less than a week left in this year's List Fund Raiser and only a few short days to grab one of the great Contribution Gifts available this year. Support is still significantly lagging behind last year at this point but hopefully it will pick up here towards the end. Please remember that it is solely the Contributions of List members that keeps the Lists up and running as there is no commercialism or advertising on the Matronics Lists and Forums. The List Contribution web site is secure, fast, and easy and you can use a credit card, Paypal, or a personal check: http://www.matronics.com/contribution I want to thank everyone that has already made a generous contribution to support the Lists! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics EMail List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 26, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: What Are You Thankful For...?
Dear Listers, Here in the United States, Thursday is our National day of Thanksgiving. Many of us will be traveling to be with our families and friends to share in generous feasts of plenty and giving thanks for many blessings that have been bestowed upon us. Many Listers have expressed over the last couple of weeks how thankful they are for the Email Lists and Forums here on the Matronics servers and for all of the assistance and comradery they have experienced being a part of the Lists. One of my favorite comments is when someone writes to me and says something like, "Its the first thing I do in the morning while I'm having my morning coffee!". That's a wonderful tribute to the purpose and function of these Lists. Its always great to hear I'm not the only one that jumps out of bed each morning to check my List email!! Won't you take a minute today and show your appreciation for these Lists and for their continued operation and upgrade? The List Contribution Site is: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you in advance for your kind consideration, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 28, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: No "Black Friday" For List Fund Raiser...
Even though the number of List subscriptions and List posts are up significantly this year compared to last year, support during this year's List Fund Raiser has been woefully lagging from last year. There are only a couple more days left in November and the end of the Fund Raiser is quickly approaching. I have always preferred a non-commercial List experience as many, many members have also expressed that they do as well. However, if the yearly fund raiser cannot generate sufficient funds to keep the bills paid on the List service expenses, I will have to look into some sort of advertising. Please don't let that happen! Your personal contribution of $20 or $30 goes a long ways to keeping the operation a float. The lunch combo at Carl's Jr costs nearly $10 these days. Isn't the List worth at least as much as a couple of burgers? Please make sure your name is on this year's List of Contributors published in December. The Contribution site is secure, quick, and easy: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you in advance for your support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 29, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just Two More Days Left; Fund Raiser Behind By 12%...
Dear Listers, This year's List Fund Raiser is still trailing last year by a 12% margin. If you like the ad-free environment that is the Matronics Email List and Forum experience, please make a quick Contribution to keep it that way! http://www.matronics.com/contribution I've been getting a ton of really nice comments from Contributors regarding the Lists. Please read over some of them below and see if they don't resonate with you as well. Thank you in advance for your generous contribution to support these Lists! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator --------------------------- Member Feedback ---------------------------- ur web site is a real institution of the whole Experimental Aircraft subculture. John G Thanks Matt for the lists. A lot of good info. Great bunch of list members. Great videos and no SPAM. Paul C It has been a valuable tool. Troy M ..appreciate the site as much as ever. Larry M By using various forums I've learned a ton, received great advice, made friends, and saved money! Craig W Since I've finished [my project], I've not had much to do as far as fabrication of electrical systems. However, selectively reading various topics is still very valuable and Bob's insights and new how to's make me a continuous subscriber. Larry F Matronics user groups are the best tool I have for learning to build my RV-10! Philip W There is always useful knowledge to be found on this list, and I suspect that it has kept quite a few people out of trouble over the years it has been in operation. Good entertainment, too. Graham H Great web site. I wish I'd known about it while building. Bob S I'm happy to provide some support to this list. It is very helpful. Vaughn T Good service to sport aviation!! Roger B Awesome Service you provide for us! Bill R My [project] is almost finished! However, it wouldn't be close without the [this] group. Douwe B Great list. Robert S I'm not a builder yet but learning lots from the list. Peter M Some nonsense, some humor, but mostly good information. Tony C Thanks for creating and keeping the Lists. They are entertaining and always informative! John M Thanks for this valuable resource to our community. Barry H The list is IMHO the greatest resource on the net. John B Thanks again for providing another year of your useful List service. Jerry B Great site indeed, every time I get a message I usually learn something. Peter B You are making a huge contribution to the builder fraternity and in no small way enhancing sport aviation safety. Richard G The List is the SINGLE, MOST IMPORTANT resource I have in building my RV10. I would be lost without out it. And I have made a bunch of new friends as well! Les K The lists are one of the things I really enjoy, so keep up the good work. Freddie H Every year -- the best value for my time and money! Owen B This list is a major contribution to safe building! Donald K Really enjoy the daily boost it gives me. Walter S In the last 18 months I have been privileged to listen & ask. I have learnt at the feet of the masters... Stewart G You set the standard on how Internet forums should be run and managed. Larry W The Universe is a better place because of you. Eric J [The List] helped me get flying, fly off my test hours and make my systems better. I continue to get and give information through these lists. Ralph C ..another GREAT year of advice, answers, and inspiration courtesy of the Lists and your hard work!!!! Rob B ..the best forum on the Internet! Robert B I can't tell you how grateful I am for your list and your subscribers to keep me up to date and holding the dream. Ashley M This page makes it easy to contribute. Jeffrey P Thank you for your expertise in creating & running the much useful lists! Anthony P Thanks for providing our advertising free on line community. George R Thanks for maintaining the equipment and software to provide this valuable source of information to us individuals. Your effort is appreciated by many more people than you realize. Ross H Thanks for a great site. Although the project is complete and flying I still get a wealth of information from all the messages. Marcus C Only learned about you six months ago...my RV-7A is just finished, but the list has been helpful. Wish I had discovered you sooner. Jack B This is an invaluable communications media for us


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