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Date: Nov 29, 2010
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Subject: Make Sure You're Listed!
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Date: Nov 30, 2010
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Subject: [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser!
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Subject: Dynon autopilot servo installation photos
From: "aerosiam" <pk@aero-siam.com>
Date: Dec 12, 2010
Someone asked me for photos of the servo installation in a previous post. I have more photos from different angles if anyone wants them by email. The install is pretty simply but the black electrical box for the flap motor had to be re-sited. The standard Dynon install kit works fine. I haven't used the autopilot much. It seems to 'hunt' for the heading. As it rolls onto the heading, the adverse yaw slews the nose around. It corrects and the process repeats. There is a new Dynon 5.4 software with different roll algorithms which I haven't tried yet. ********** On another subject, the tiny baggage tray support tabs front and back always worried me with a long unsupported span directly over the elevator controls and the trays joined by nutserts. 20lb hitting a 3G bump in turbulence is suddenly 60lb. I epoxied the 2 vertical wood supports which are screwed to both trays and then sat on the trays to load them to 160lb. Paul Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323142#323142 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/sam_2825_188.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/sam_2824_113.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/sam_2819_206.jpg ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Dynon autopilot servo installation photos
From: "aerosiam" <pk@aero-siam.com>
Date: Dec 13, 2010
The first photo also shows the modification to the wires on the flap microswitches which I mentioned in an earlier post. The factory used a computer ribbon which has extremely thin wires. Over time, several broke at the terminals possibly due to operating from a bumpy grass strip and the extra vibration from the 100hp. We spliced 18 gage wire with a long heatshrink on the bend for stiffness then secured the original ribbon to the bulkhead. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323246#323246 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 14, 2010
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: 2010 List of Contributors
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Subject: Allegro Exhaust
From: "timpry" <timpry(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jan 17, 2011
My Allegro is sporting the old style (non stainless) Rotax 912UL exhaust systems. the exhaust pipe is rusting to pieces... and my A&P found a small leak in the muffler... so I am not researching what my options are. I could replace the existing exhaust system with a stainless Rotax exhaust... and probably be able to re-use my cabin heat exchanger.. Or I could give downwind techs toucan exhaust system a try. Has anyone used the Toucan system ? or seen any reviews (besides the ones posted on the companies web site) Thanks Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=327325#327325 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: New Allegro Web site
From: "ledson" <ledson(at)oneil.com>
Date: Jan 27, 2011
I just found out that Doug Hempstead has launched a new web site for the Allegro. It seems to just be a one pager right now, but that's a start. You can view it at: http://www.allegrolsa.com/ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=328715#328715 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: New Allegro Web site
From: "aerosiam" <pk@aero-siam.com>
Date: Jan 27, 2011
interesting. The spec says 1,320 lb (600 kg) and VNE 168 mph. Is this a typo or US-spec or correct for the 2007 model? The pre 2007 model was 1,144 lb (520 kg), 138 VNE The site also says "our factory is actively producing replacement parts for the Allegro and is taking orders now. " Does anyone have any other info? Paul Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=328721#328721 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: New Allegro Web site
From: "ledson" <ledson(at)oneil.com>
Date: Jan 27, 2011
I believe that the AllegroUSA is just the new name for the Allegro 2007. Larry Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=328723#328723 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 29, 2011
From: Brian Carpenter <n3081x(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: New Allegro Web site
It has to be a typo on the speed.. 138MPH is max speed LSA...1320 is max we ight LSA. My 2006 2000 is rated at 138mph at 1230 lbs..in the USA - Brian --- On Thu, 1/27/11, aerosiam <pk@aero-siam.com> wrote: From: aerosiam <pk@aero-siam.com> Subject: Allegro-List: Re: New Allegro Web site Date: Thursday, January 27, 2011, 11:42 AM interesting. The spec says 1,320 lb (600 kg) and VNE 168 mph. Is this a typo or US-spec or correct for the 2007 model? The pre 2007 model was 1,144 lb (520 kg), 13 8 VNE The site also says "our factory is actively producing replacement parts for the Allegro and is taking orders now. " Does anyone have any other info? Paul Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=328721#328721 le, List Admin. =0A=0A=0A ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: New Allegro Web site
From: "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Jan 30, 2011
Hi Brian, You coming to Page, AZ this year. It's posted on the www.ctflier.com forum. All others here are more than welcome. Brian has been coming for a few years. You can ask him if it is worth coming. Don't miss it's a great time with fun people. -------- Roger Lee Tucson, Az. Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated Rotax Repair Center Home 520-574-1080 TRY HOME FIRST Cell 520-349-7056 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=328978#328978 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 31, 2011
From: Brian Carpenter <n3081x(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: New Allegro Web site
Hi Roger, O course I will be there!!!!- Would love to see another Allegro come to P age this year.. Thanks for the personal note!!! Brian --- On Sun, 1/30/11, Roger Lee wrote: From: Roger Lee <ssadiver1(at)yahoo.com> Subject: Allegro-List: Re: New Allegro Web site Date: Sunday, January 30, 2011, 8:00 AM Hi Brian, You coming to Page, AZ this year. It's posted on the www.ctflier.com forum. All others here are more than welcome. Brian has been coming for a few years. You can ask him if it is worth coming. Don't miss it's a great t ime with fun people. -------- Roger Lee Tucson, Az. Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated Rotax Repair Center Home 520-574-1080- TRY HOME FIRST Cell 520-349-7056 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=328978#328978 le, List Admin. =0A=0A=0A ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 22, 2011
From: Brian Carpenter <n3081x(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Rotax 5 Year rubber parts mandatory replacement
On the Flight Design forum they are talking about a mandatory- 5 year rub ber parts replacement for Rotax engines. Have any Allegro owners of 2005 or earlier done this?? Or thought about this??- Anyone talked to Doug or Be tty? Let us know... Brian N3081x Taylor, AZ USA =0A=0A=0A ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Rotax 5 Year rubber parts mandatory replacement
From: "ledson" <ledson(at)oneil.com>
Date: Feb 22, 2011
Mine is scheduled for the rubber replacement with the upcoming annual condition inspection in May. I did replace the fuel lines around the electric fuel pump last year. The lines were cracked and seeping fuel. I didn't check the lines that are under the carpeting, but my guess would be that they as well should be replaced. I just don't know if the carpet that is glued in will be a problem to replace or re-glue. Larry N4362C Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331808#331808 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Rotax 5 Year rubber parts mandatory replacement
From: "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Feb 22, 2011
Hi Guys, Hi Brian, hope this helps some. If you are an SLSA, have a Rotax engine and are supposed to follow the Rotax manual as stated by your aircraft MFG. then you must do a 5 year rubber replacement as stated by Rotax to remain airworthy. If you are ELSA then you can do as you please, but remember you can't pull over to the curb and hoses do start to flake inside at times or fail. You need to replace all rubber hoses that have to do with fuel (from the tanks to the carbs), coolant, oil, the carb rubber mounting sockets, the carb diaphragm, some "O" rings in the process. If you have the stainless steel fuel lines that attach to the carbs they do not need to be replaced, but if you have the red rubber fuel attachment lines they do, hence the price difference in the estimates. Many people will need to pull their engines to do this. Parts cost, depending on your plane, will run from $900 - $1300. California Power Systems a.k.a. CPS has a parts list that I set up, but I set it up for a CTSW and your hose lengths will be a little different, but many standard parts are the same. Your hoses on the fuel lines may be a little longer or shorter. -------- Roger Lee Tucson, Az. Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated Rotax Repair Center Home 520-574-1080 TRY HOME FIRST Cell 520-349-7056 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331810#331810 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Rotax 5 Year rubber parts mandatory replacement
From: "ledson" <ledson(at)oneil.com>
Date: Feb 22, 2011
Roger, Thanks for your posting. As always it has useful information for all of us. The rubber replacement listing that you made for CPS, do you think you could share that with the rest of us? I know that I would like to pass that along to my mechanic to save some research time. Thanks, Larry N4362C Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331814#331814 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Rotax 5 Year rubber parts mandatory replacement
From: "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Feb 22, 2011
Hi Larry, Shoot me your email address and I'll be happy to send it to you. You may have some different hose lengths on your Allegro so I would look over the list and compare to your own plane. many parts may be the same in metric size just a different length. -------- Roger Lee Tucson, Az. Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated Rotax Repair Center Home 520-574-1080 TRY HOME FIRST Cell 520-349-7056 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331880#331880 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Hugh McKay" <hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Allegro 2000 Wheel Pants
Date: Mar 22, 2011
The outside attaching bolts on one of my wheel pants came loose with out my knowledge and upon landing at a turf runway the vibration allowed the wheel pant to come in contact with the tire and as a result it ripped the fiberglass wheel pant off the aluminum bracket. I now have to decide if it is worth fixing, ( 2 photos attached) or if I can find another set of Allegro wheel pants here in the states, try to see if the wheel pants offered by Aircraft spruce will fit, or just forget the idea of having wheel pants. I am at a turf field, so wheel pants take a beating anyway. Any way, short of trying to get a set or just one from Fantasy Air (which may be impossible now) anyone out there have extra wheel pants for an Allegro 2000? Suggestions? Hugh G. McKay III, P.E. Senior Consultant Worldwide Engineering Inc. 4090 North NC Hwy. 16 Denver, NC 28037 Ph. 704-661-8271 Fax 704-483-5466 email hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net http://www.wwegeo.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Brad Kramer" <brad@vision-technology.com>
Date: Mar 23, 2011
Subject: Re: Allegro 2000 Wheel Pants
Hugh, Personally I think I'd take it to a fiberglass repair shop. Of course you 'd want a firm quote first. I've seen a huge price range in my area betwe en different shops. If you could find an actual Allegro wheel pant to purchase that'd be even easier, but good luck with that. It'd at least be worth calling B Bar D to see if they have one to sell you. (I've been waiting a year for a wing -tip light cover) The Aircraft Spruce route may be more work than you really want, unless t he wheel pant is nearly identical. Most likely you'd have to buy two (so they match) then do a lot of trimming and fitting on two pants, instead o f just getting one repaired. And they'd both need painting. One other possibility is if Thom Riddle still has the wheel pants that we re on the Rans S6S I traded him for my Allegro. (The S6S is no longer, bu t the wheel pants might be sitting somewhere). Thom? Good Luck Hugh. Brad Kramer N221FA Bismarck ND -----Original Message----- From: Hugh McKay [mailto:hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 10:46 PM Subject: Allegro-List: Allegro 2000 Wheel Pants The outside attaching bolts on one of my wheel pants came loose with out my knowledge and upon landing at a turf runway the vibration allowed the wheel pant to come in contact with the tire and as a result it ripped the fiberglass wheel pant off the aluminum bracket. I now have to decide if it is worth fixing, ( 2 photos attached) or if I can find another set of Allegro wheel pants here in the states, try to see if the wheel pants off ered by Aircraft spruce will fit, or just forget the idea of having wheel pants. I am at a turf field, so wheel pants take a beating anyway. Any w ay, short of trying to get a set or just one from Fantasy Air (which may be impossible now) anyone out there have extra wheel pants for an Allegro 2000? Suggestions? Hugh G. McKay III, P.E. Senior Consultant Worldwide Engineering Inc. 4090 North NC Hwy. 16 Denver, NC 28037 Ph. 704-661-8271 Fax 704-483-5466 email hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net http://www.wwegeo.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Jerry K Goldberg" <jkgcpa(at)ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Allegro 2000 Wheel Pants
Date: Mar 23, 2011
Hugh, B bar D has taken over as the Fantasy Air manufacturer in North Carolina. They have many parts now for both Allegro 2000 & 2007, including the wing tip covers. I'd look at both options on your pants. Doug's phone is Work 919-775-2224 Cell 336-202-1585 I make it part of my pre-flight inspection to check the outside wing pant bolt & shake the pant as my bolt did loosen up once. My current project is working with Mikrotechna who made the original ASI & stall warning system to figure out how to analyze & adjust all 3 components, ASI, pressure switch, & sounding board. I'll keep you posted. Jerry N44456 West Houston Airport (KIWS) ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Mar 24, 2011
From: Jeff <Matronics(at)PlaneWerks.com>
Subject: Re: Allegro 2000 Wheel Pants
Hugh; I have learned that Allegro LSA has perhaps more than a few sets of wheel pants. If you haven't already contacted Doug, and you're still in need, try calling him or ask for Ross. I have no idea how and whether they can or will sell them. I'm also informed that the same pants have been used since day one, and they are getting ready to make new ones, apparently from the original molds. Jeff Kraudelt Sandhills Avionics Carthage North Carolina SandhillsAvionics.com On 3/22/2011 10:46 PM, Hugh McKay wrote: > The outside attaching bolts on one of my wheel pants came loose with > out my knowledge and upon landing at a turf runway the vibration > allowed the wheel pant to come in contact with the tire and as a > result it ripped the fiberglass wheel pant off the aluminum bracket. I > now have to decide if it is worth fixing, ( 2 photos attached) or if I > can find another set of Allegro wheel pants here in the states, try to > see if the wheel pants offered by Aircraft spruce will fit, or just > forget the idea of having wheel pants. I am at a turf field, so wheel > pants take a beating anyway. Any way, short of trying to get a set or > just one from Fantasy Air (which may be impossible now) anyone out > there have extra wheel pants for an Allegro 2000? Suggestions? > Hugh G. McKay III, P.E. > Senior Consultant > Worldwide Engineering Inc. > 4090 North NC Hwy. 16 > Denver, NC 28037 > > Ph. 704-661-8271 > Fax 704-483-5466 > email hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net > http://www.wwegeo.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Hugh McKay" <hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Allegro 2000 Wheel Pants
Date: Mar 24, 2011
Jeff, I just called Allegro LSA (Doug Hempsted and Company) and spoke to Ross. They do have some in stock and I have ordered one (the left main). I did not ask him if they were used or new. What do you mean the pants =9Chave been used since day one=9D? By the way, do you hanger an Allegro 2000 at Gilliam-McConnell? We drop in at the Pik-in-Pig on Saturdays every now and then, and I noticed an Allegro 2000 in a hanger across the runway from the restaurant. Thanks for the info. Hugh G. McKay III, P.E. Senior Consultant Worldwide Engineering Inc. 4090 North NC Hwy. 16 Denver, NC 28037 Ph. 704-661-8271 Fax 704-483-5466 email hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net http://www.wwegeo.com From: Jeff Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 2:20 PM Subject: Re: Allegro-List: Allegro 2000 Wheel Pants Hugh; I have learned that Allegro LSA has perhaps more than a few sets of wheel pants. If you haven't already contacted Doug, and you're still in need, try calling him or ask for Ross. I have no idea how and whether they can or will sell them. I'm also informed that the same pants have been used since day one, and they are getting ready to make new ones, apparently from the original molds. Jeff Kraudelt Sandhills Avionics Carthage North Carolina SandhillsAvionics.com On 3/22/2011 10:46 PM, Hugh McKay wrote: The outside attaching bolts on one of my wheel pants came loose with out my knowledge and upon landing at a turf runway the vibration allowed the wheel pant to come in contact with the tire and as a result it ripped the fiberglass wheel pant off the aluminum bracket. I now have to decide if it is worth fixing, ( 2 photos attached) or if I can find another set of Allegro wheel pants here in the states, try to see if the wheel pants offered by Aircraft spruce will fit, or just forget the idea of having wheel pants. I am at a turf field, so wheel pants take a beating anyway. Any way, short of trying to get a set or just one from Fantasy Air (which may be impossible now) anyone out there have extra wheel pants for an Allegro 2000? Suggestions? Hugh G. McKay III, P.E. Senior Consultant Worldwide Engineering Inc. 4090 North NC Hwy. 16 Denver, NC 28037 Ph. 704-661-8271 Fax 704-483-5466 email hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net http://www.wwegeo.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Hugh McKay" <hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Rubber Channel Molding
Date: Mar 30, 2011
Has anyone had to replace the small rubber molding that goes around the top of the vertical stabilizer where the horizontal stabilizer comes in contact? This same molding also goes around the =9CU=9D cutout on the wheel pants. If so, where did you get it? Hugh G. McKay III, P.E. Senior Consultant Worldwide Engineering Inc. 4090 North NC Hwy. 16 Denver, NC 28037 Ph. 704-661-8271 Fax 704-483-5466 email hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net http://www.wwegeo.com ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Mar 30, 2011
From: Brian Carpenter <n3081x(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Rubber Channel Molding
Hugh, Seems that I talked to Doug about that. He said to go to an automotive part s store and get some molding like what is used on car doors.. My is cracked but have not replaced it yet.. Good luck, Brian n3081x 928-205-8300 --- On Wed, 3/30/11, Hugh McKay wrote: From: Hugh McKay <hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net> Subject: Allegro-List: Rubber Channel Molding Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 9:50 AM =0A=0AHas anyone had to replace the small rubber molding that goes around t he top =0Aof the vertical stabilizer where the horizontal stabilizer comes in contact? =0AThis same molding also goes around the =9CU=9D c utout on the wheel pants. If so, =0Awhere did you get it?=0A=C2-=0AHugh G . =0AMcKay III, P.E. Senior Consultant Worldwide Engineering Inc. 4090 North =0ANC Hwy. 16 Denver, NC 28037 Ph. 704-661-8271 Fax =0A704-483-5466 email =0Ahgmckay(at)bellsouth.net http://www.wwegeo.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Hugh McKay" <hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Hydraulic Brake System Master Cylinder
Date: Apr 11, 2011
I am bleeding the brake system on my Allegro 2000. I notice that on top of the small master cylinder there is a pin size hole, and a larger but still small hole with a threaded set screw. Can any one tell me the function of these, and are they used in any way during the bleeding process? Hugh G. McKay III, P.E. Senior Consultant Worldwide Engineering Inc. 4090 North NC Hwy. 16 Denver, NC 28037 Ph. 704-661-8271 Fax 704-483-5466 email hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net http://www.wwegeo.com ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Apr 12, 2011
From: Brian Carpenter <n3081x(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Hydraulic Brake System Master Cylinder
Hugh, I have bled brakes on my 2006. The small pin hole seems to just be an overf low. If I put too much Dot 3/4 in it overflows out the small pin hole when tightening the top onto the master cylinder. I do not have the other hole w ith set screw you mention. If you are replacing all fluid I found it easier to fill from the bottom up, both sides at the same time. Method requires t wo small pump cans with plastic hose over the brake nipples.. Worked better for me.. -I cannot see and reason for this..Except- maybe another way to add flu id instead of removing the screw top of the cylinder????? =0AGood luck, Brian N3081x Taylor Az 928-205-8300 --- On Mon, 4/11/11, Hugh McKay wrote: From: Hugh McKay <hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net> Subject: Allegro-List: Hydraulic Brake System Master Cylinder Date: Monday, April 11, 2011, 12:43 PM =0A=0AI am bleeding the brake system on my Allegro 2000. I notice that on t op of =0Athe small master cylinder there is a pin size hole, and a larger b ut still small =0Ahole with a threaded set screw. Can any one tell me the f unction of these, and =0Aare they used in any way during the bleeding proce ss?=0A-=0AHugh G. =0AMcKay III, P.E. Senior Consultant Worldwide Engineering Inc. 4090 North =0ANC Hwy. 16 Denver, NC 28037 Ph. 704-661-8271 Fax =0A704-483-5466 email =0Ahgmckay(at)bellsouth.net http://www.wwegeo.com ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Hydraulic Brake System Master Cylinder
From: "aerosiam" <pk@aero-siam.com>
Date: Apr 12, 2011
I agree wth Brian's comments The pinhole is presumably the breather and can also be used to top up cleanly with a hypodermic needle. I replaced the disk pads and bled the system a couple of years ago. One point is that there are TINY fluid transfer holes in the bottom of the piston which need to be cleaned and checked. From memory, the set screw protrudes exactly between the ears of the circlip below. If they are not lined up, the set screw will not screw down. Recently I renewed all the seals in the whole system but the original Evektor master cylinder didn't feel soild so I replaced it with a Matco which works great. The outlets are at 90 degrees to the original and the vertical mounting post had to be elongated but otherwise it was a simple swop. I use silicon DOT 5 because of the humidity in Thailand (and it is safe on paintwork) Paul Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=336789#336789 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: What fuel for Rotax 100hp
From: "aerosiam" <pk@aero-siam.com>
Date: Apr 13, 2011
There are a choice of 3 fuels here in Thailand. 'Normal' 95 octane 91 octane 95 Gasohol (ethanol) either E5 or E10 Normally I use normal 95 but many areas of Thailand no longer have it and I have to fuel up with 91 with a higher risk of detonation. I was advised not to use ethanol because it may not be compatible with the fiberglass fuel tank and also because of high humidity here. I know a friend using ethanol in his Zenair 701 without problems (but that has aluminum tanks) and most cars here run on E10 but I have also heard horror stories about ethanol. A friend used ethanol on his motorbike and after leaving it standing while he was away for 2 months, the carburetor system was ruined by a hard residue deposited everywhere. What fuel does everyone else use for the 100 hp and is gasohol / ethanol safe in the Allegro fuel system? Paul Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=336791#336791 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Brad Kramer" <brad@vision-technology.com>
Date: Apr 13, 2011
Subject: Re: Hydraulic Brake System Master Cylinder
The Allegro manual has a bleeding procedure that is basically just quickl y pumping the handle. My A&P didn't think it made sense, but it worked. ( at least for minor air near the top of the system) I also found it really helpful to have a syringe with a flexible attachment end where the needl e usually goes (don't know the name... got it from my wife who works at a vet clinic). I did a lot of troubleshooting before realizing my problem was the rubber plunger tip on the cylinder. I was quickly able to get a new one from B Bar D. So if you have soft brakes that is one thing to check. As for B Bar D and recent news about getting back into production and par ts, I'm happy to say that after I recently reminded them I was waiting fo r a wing-tip light cover for almost a year, within a few days I received one, with a note of apology for the delay and no charge. Seems like a sig n of good things to come. Maybe next I'll write to them and say I have been waiting for a 100 hp Ro tax upgrade for over a year, along with wing tanks, and see if those are free too. Brad Kramer N221FA Bismarck ND -----Original Message----- From: aerosiam [mailto:pk@aero-siam.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 01:52 AM Subject: Allegro-List: Re: Hydraulic Brake System Master Cylinder ts The pinhole is presumably the breather and can also be used to top up cleanly with a hypodermic needle. I replaced the disk pads and bled the s ystem a couple of years ago. One point is that there are TINY fluid trans fer holes in the bottom of the piston which need to be cleaned and checke d. From memory, the set screw protrudes exactly between the ears of the c irclip below. If they are not lined up, the set screw will not screw down . Recently I renewed all the seals in the whole system but the original E vektor master cylinder didn't feel soild so I replaced it with a Matco wh ich works great. The outlets are at 90 degrees to the original and the ve rtical mounting post had to be elongated but otherwise it was a simple sw op. I use silicon DOT 5 because of the humidity in Thailand (and it is sa fe on paintwork) Paul Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronic ======================== ====================== ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Brad Kramer" <brad@vision-technology.com>
Date: Apr 27, 2011
Subject: a couple good-news Allegro stories...
http://www.bydanjohnson.com/Sidebar.cfm?Article_ID=1448 http://www2.wnct.com/business/2011/apr/06/34-jobs-flying-halifax-county-ar-925286/ And an older story on the 2007... http://www.bydanjohnson.com/index.cfm?b=6&m=5&id=18 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: a couple good-news Allegro stories...
From: "ledson" <ledson(at)oneil.com>
Date: Apr 28, 2011
Brad, I Don't know if your aware of it or not, but Allegro LSA now has a web site @ http://www.allegrolsa.com/. They also have a page on Facebook page called AllegroLSA. Larry Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338281#338281 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: a couple good-news Allegro stories...
From: Brad Kramer <brad@vision-technology.com>
Date: Apr 28, 2011
I wasn't aware of those sites. Sure is nice to see this happening finally; we hope. Thanks ---------------------------------- Sent from Android phone ledson wrote: ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Rwmurrayhm(at)aol.com
Date: May 14, 2011
Subject: Fuselage Composite Failure/Plane Total Loss
An Allegro 2007 was recently declared a total loss because of fuselage composite deformation and de-lamination. A crease or ripple began developing just in front of the pilot side door and ultimately traveled under the fuselage and up towards the passenger side door. Composite experts determined that the structural integrity of the fuselage was compromised. A small leak in the fuel tank had allowed fuel (MoGas) to seep into the underlying composite and soften it. The crease seems to follow the front of the fuel tank as it is glassed into the fuselage. Fantasy Air's subcontractor for the fuselage (Composit Airplanes of the Czech Republic) said in an e-mail: "It was produced over 200 fuselages and this is third (3.) case. It was always caused with bad landings. The laminate fuel tank is produced separated in special mold and is glued in fuselage after complete treatment against effect of fuel. But it is strength component of whole fuselage. Tank tightness is very responsibly tested - 3 days pressure. The whole fuselage is epoxy with glass reinforcements and sandwich material is HEREX. The fuel tank is the same just special chemicals resistant epoxy is used and sandwich material is SORICK. In accordance with photo sent I think that the fuselage is greatly damaged and from our point of view is unrepairable." I believe the fuel tank leak developed from a flat tire experienced upon landing. At the time there was no visible damage from the event. The tire was changed and the aircraft flew another 20 hours. Fuel never visibly leaked out or even stained the gel coat. Nor was there ever any discernible loss of fuel. It may have only taken a quart or two of fuel sitting in the composite for months to soften it. The flat tire was in May 2010; the damage became evident between November 2010 and January 2011. The aircraft was normally hangared with half a tank or more of fuel on board. Richard Murray ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Hugh McKay" <hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: MTOW of the Allegro 2000 vs. the Allegro 2007
Date: Jun 22, 2011
I fly an Allegro 2000 ELSA S/N 04-713 with a Rotax 912 UL engine. The MTOW for my airplane is supposedly 1232 lbs. An Allegro 2007 with a Rotax 912 UL is essentially the same airplane, with the same load factors, but with some minor airframe changes such as a little more dihedral in the wing and a slight reshaping of the rear section of the fuselage and raising the tail slightly higher off the ground, yet the MTOW for the 2007 is 1320 lbs. My question is why does the model 2007 have this allowable increase of 88 lbs. over the model 2000? Why will my model 2000 airframe supposedly not safely carry this additional 88 lbs? Hugh G. McKay III, P.E. Senior Consultant Worldwide Engineering Inc. 4090 North NC Hwy. 16 Denver, NC 28037 Ph. 704-661-8271 Fax 704-483-5466 email hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net http://www.wwegeo.com ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 23, 2011
From: Brian Carpenter <n3081x(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: MTOW of the Allegro 2000 vs. the Allegro 2007
Hugh, As I understand it, the proposed, guessed at max weight for LSA was to be 1 232. The Allegro 2000 being one of the first LSA to be approved used this w eight even though 1320 became the final weight limit. If you look around yo u will see others that use the 1232. I believe that the 1232 limit is also a weight limit that was used in some European countries for their version o f a LSA. The 2007 is a whole new airplane and the 1320 was adopted. Was you r 04 made before the LSA program was started?? The ruling came out in the F ederal Register July 27, 2004 Or I may be all wrong!!!! Anyway , the point seems mute to me unless you have the extra wing tanks fo r the extra 10 gals of fuel . With a 22 lb baggage limit and 14 gals of fue l, I find it hard to find a pilot / passenger that can GET IN the airplane that will exceed the 1232 limit. Brian --- On Wed, 6/22/11, Hugh McKay wrote: From: Hugh McKay <hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net> Subject: Allegro-List: MTOW of the Allegro 2000 vs. the Allegro 2007 Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 8:09 PM =0A=0AI fly an Allegro 2000 ELSA S/N 04-713 with a Rotax 912 UL engine. The MTOW =0Afor my airplane is supposedly 1232 lbs. An Allegro 2007 with a Rot ax 912 UL is =0Aessentially the same airplane, with the same load factors, but with some minor =0Aairframe changes such as a little more dihedral in t he wing and a slight =0Areshaping of the rear section of the fuselage and r aising the tail slightly =0Ahigher off the ground, yet the MTOW for the 200 7 is 1320 lbs.- My question =0Ais why does the model 2007 have this allow able increase of 88 lbs. over the =0Amodel 2000? Why will my model 2000 air frame supposedly not safely carry this =0Aadditional 88 lbs?=0A-=0AHugh G . =0AMcKay III, P.E. Senior Consultant Worldwide Engineering Inc. 4090 North =0ANC Hwy. 16 Denver, NC 28037 Ph. 704-661-8271 Fax =0A704-483-5466 email =0Ahgmckay(at)bellsouth.net http://www.wwegeo.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Hugh McKay" <hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: MTOW of the Allegro 2000 vs. the Allegro 2007
Date: Jun 23, 2011
Brian, My Allegro 2000 has S/N 04-713. The order was placed in November 2004, and it was delivered to me in March 2005. I do have the extra wing tanks which carry the extra 10 gallons of fuel (60 lbs.). Hugh G. McKay III, P.E. Senior Consultant Worldwide Engineering Inc. 4090 North NC Hwy. 16 Denver, NC 28037 Ph. 704-661-8271 Fax 704-483-5466 email hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net http://www.wwegeo.com From: Brian Carpenter Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 5:30 AM Subject: Re: Allegro-List: MTOW of the Allegro 2000 vs. the Allegro 2007 Hugh, As I understand it, the proposed, guessed at max weight for LSA was to be 1232. The Allegro 2000 being one of the first LSA to be approved used this weight even though 1320 became the final weight limit. If you look around you will see others that use the 1232. I believe that the 1232 limit is also a weight limit that was used in some European countries for their version of a LSA. The 2007 is a whole new airplane and the 1320 was adopted. Was your 04 made before the LSA program was started?? The ruling came out in the Federal Register July 27, 2004 Or I may be all wrong!!!! Anyway , the point seems mute to me unless you have the extra wing tanks for the extra 10 gals of fuel . With a 22 lb baggage limit and 14 gals of fuel, I find it hard to find a pilot / passenger that can GET IN the airplane that will exceed the 1232 limit. Brian --- On Wed, 6/22/11, Hugh McKay wrote: From: Hugh McKay <hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net> Subject: Allegro-List: MTOW of the Allegro 2000 vs. the Allegro 2007 To: allegro-list(at)matronics.com Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 8:09 PM I fly an Allegro 2000 ELSA S/N 04-713 with a Rotax 912 UL engine. The MTOW for my airplane is supposedly 1232 lbs. An Allegro 2007 with a Rotax 912 UL is essentially the same airplane, with the same load factors, but with some minor airframe changes such as a little more dihedral in the wing and a slight reshaping of the rear section of the fuselage and raising the tail slightly higher off the ground, yet the MTOW for the 2007 is 1320 lbs. My question is why does the model 2007 have this allowable increase of 88 lbs. over the model 2000? Why will my model 2000 airframe supposedly not safely carry this additional 88 lbs? Hugh G. McKay III, P.E. Senior Consultant Worldwide Engineering Inc. 4090 North NC Hwy. 16 Denver, NC 28037 Ph. 704-661-8271 Fax 704-483-5466 email hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net http://www.wwegeo.com ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: MTOW of the Allegro 2000 vs. the Allegro 2007
From: "aerosiam" <pk@aero-siam.com>
Date: Jun 23, 2011
I would be interested to hear Thom's expert view on this subject. I have no idea if this is correct but here is my take on it. The Allegro 2000 was designed to the 'standard' European normal / ultimate limits of 4.0 / 6.0 G at 520 kg or 1,144 lb . In the US, the normal category is 3.8 G 1,144 x 6.0 is 6,864 lb. If the weight is raised to 1,232, the normal / ultimate loads are reduced to 3.71 / 5.57 At a weight of 1,320 it is further reduced to 3.46 / 5.2. The US normal category of 3.8 G comes out at 1,204 lb for the Allegro (6,864 divided by 5.7 divided by 1.5) Presumably there are issues about operating an aircraft over the original design maximum weight, for example, undercarriage design loads. I saw photos of Fantasy doing a static test by loading sandbags onto an upside down wing which I think is normal practice. But I wonder just how reliable these static tests are in a dynamic environment. What about the bending loads on the tail boom at 1,320 lb in sudden vertical turbulence? I have the wing tanks and I have flown my Allegro 2000 on a long trip at about 1,250 lb. The extra weight seemed to make little difference and with the 100 hp engine, the take off and climb from our 1,500 ft grass strip is fine. I check the weather and stay in the green arc until I have burned off some gas. I would hesitate to operate an aircraft designed to 1,144 lb at 1,320 lb Is the 2007 model structurally stronger? Paul Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=343897#343897 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 17, 2011
Subject: Replacement of engine mount rubber shock absorbers for Allegro
2000
From: theo van duin <t.j.vanduin(at)gmail.com>
Dear fellow Allegro listers, Could anyone of you inform me about *material details* of subject rubber shock absorbers for the Allegro 2000? Not every type of shock absorber with correct dimensions that=B4s commercia lly available, is suitable I think, because of the specifications of the rubber material of this part. Mainly the *type of rubber* and the *shore hardness* of the rubber I need t o know, to be able to look for spare parts in Europe. Anything written down about the average service life of subject engine moun t shock absorbers? Thanks a lot for your comments, Theo van Duin Allegro 2000 (F-JSWO) France ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 29, 2011
Subject: Engine mount shock absorbers for Allegro 2000
From: theo van duin <t.j.vanduin(at)gmail.com>
Fellow Allegro listers, Your comments on one or more of my questions below about subject engine mounts is very much appreciated. -- is there any information available about the average service life of these parts? -- should they be replaced if the difference in length between the upper and the lower mounts is .12 inches? -- as the propeller pulls the engine forward, the parts are stress loaded which is not the usual way these kind of parts are normally loaded. Is the rubber material of this part specially made for the engine mounts of the Allegro? Does it have a different hardness (Shore A) than commercially available parts of this kind? Thank you for your help in this matter. Kind regards, Theo van Duin Les Cargeots 71550 Cussy en Morvan France ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Stall Warning Adjustment
From: "ledson" <ledson(at)oneil.com>
Date: Sep 28, 2011
Is there anyone on the list that knows how to adjust the stall warning buzzer on an Allegro 2000? Mine doesn't sound until the aircraft is well below stall speed at approximately 35 MPH. Any help would be appreciated it. Thanks, Larry Allegro 2000 N4362C Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353456#353456 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Brad Kramer" <brad@vision-technology.com>
Date: Sep 28, 2011
Subject: Re: Stall Warning Adjustment
Larry... it is going off only after the plane has stalled and the nose is dropping? Or are you just referring to the indicated airspeed where it starts to ac tivate, but the plane is still flying? Ideally I'd think you want it to go off about 5 mph IAS above where the s tall occurs. Brad / Bismarck ND N221FA -----Original Message----- From: ledson [mailto:ledson(at)oneil.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 03:20 PM Subject: Allegro-List: Stall Warning Adjustment that knows how to adjust the stall warning buzzer on an Allegro 2000? Min e doesn't sound until the aircraft is well below stall speed at approxima tely 35 MPH. Any help would be appreciated it. Thanks, Larry Allegro 2000 N4362C Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopi ================= ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Stall Warning Adjustment
From: "ledson" <ledson(at)oneil.com>
Date: Sep 29, 2011
Thanks for your response Brad. It doesn't go off until I'm at about 35 MPH after landing during the roll out. It doesn't sound at all during an approach to stall or during the stall. I know that there are two different adjustment points, one on the face of the ASI and one on the stall warning control board, but is would sure be nice to know what the procedure for adjust is instead of trying to adjust it hit or miss. Thanks, Larry Allegro 2000 N4362C Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353506#353506 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Stall Warning Adjustment
From: "aerosiam" <pk@aero-siam.com>
Date: Sep 29, 2011
Larry I have the same problem. It sounds after touchdown. The system worked normally for a couple of years so i am not sure an adjustment will cure your problem. Presumably you already checked that the sensor tube is not blocked. Paul Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353515#353515 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Stall Warning Adjustment
From: "ledson" <ledson(at)oneil.com>
Date: Sep 29, 2011
Paul, yes, I've confirmed that the tube from the from the wing leading edge is connected and intact with no leaks. I was thinking that the pressure switch may have lost some of it's effectiveness over the years and could be adjusted. But maybe not. It may require the replacement of circuit board. Larry Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353520#353520 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Stall Warning Adjustment
From: Brad Kramer <brad@vision-technology.com>
Date: Sep 29, 2011
Now y'all have me wondering if mine works. It does sometimes sound just after touchdown with the nosewheel up, but when doing stalls I am focused on coordinated flight and aerodynamic cues, so maybe wouldn't notice the lack of the buzzer. Will have to try that out this weekend if the wind dies down from todays 30 kts. 807 hours TT and about 8 years on my Allegro. Will be interesting to see if there is a stall warning problem that happens on Allegros after they fly several hundred hours and a few years of age. ...brad Bismarck ND. N221FA ---------------------------------- Sent from Android phone ledson wrote: Paul, yes, I've confirmed that the tube from the from the wing leading edge is connected and intact with no leaks. I was thinking that the pressure switch may have lost some of it's effectiveness over the years and could be adjusted. But maybe not. It may require the replacement of circuit board. Larry Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353520#353520 _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________________
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From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: PLEASE READ - 2011 List Fund Raiser Kickoff - 21 Years Strong!!
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Subject: Please Support The Lists...
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Subject: Re: Stall Warning Adjustment
From: "royalina" <25royalina(at)gmail.com>
Date: Nov 17, 2011
I know that there are two different adjustment points, one on the face of the ASI and one on the stall warning control board........... -------- || Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=358331#358331 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: In this might mean keeping your water
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Date: Nov 19, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: The Value of a Forum...
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Subject: Allegro stall speeds
From: "aerosiam" <pk@aero-siam.com>
Date: Nov 19, 2011
During a biennial with a CFI, the stall characteristics were tested. The plane is a 2006 Allegro 100 hp fitted with full span vortex generators plus VGs on the bottom trailing edge of the horizontal stabilizer. Weight was 500 kg or 1,100 lb. OAT 30 degrees C. The VGs are from stolspeed.com and were inexpensive and easy to install The plane has a Dynon plus 2 ASIs fitted to 2 pitots. Both ASIs were poorly calibrated at the factory. There were carefully re-calibrated right thru the speed range with a manometer and are exactly in sync with the Dynon so IAS is also CAS. Minimum speed 42 kts at half flap. With a little power, the plane maintained altitude and could perform gentle 10 degree turns. Aileron control was slow but positive. Stall speeds power off (indicated and calibrated) Zero flap - 42 kts Half flap 15 degrees 38 kts Full flap 48 degrees 36 kts This confirms an approach speed with flaps at 50 kts. Touchdown speed in ground effect is about 34 kts Stall behaviour At all 3 flaps settings, the behaviour was the same. The stick is back against the stop and the plane simply parachutes at about 400 ft/min pitched about 5 degrees nose up. There is no break or wing drop. Deliberately moving the aileron sometimes provoked a mild wing drop, sometimes not. Recovery is immediate as soon as back pressure is released and power applied. Height loss is negligible. The stall warning worked correctly. There is almost no buffet presumably because the VGs prevent the usual separation at high angles of attack. Difference with VGs fitted. The slow speed and stall behaviour is very mild. There is more elevator and aileron control bite especially for take off, flare and landing. The nose wheel can be held off noticeably longer. Without the VGs, typically there was a wing drop to the right. The Allegro manual states the CAS stall speeds as 43 / 39 / 35 @ 520 kg or 1,144 lb. Before the VGs were fitted, I noted the stall speeds as 45 / 40 / 36. I suspect Fantasys figures are a little optimistic. What results have other owners obtained when practising stalls? Paul Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=358568#358568 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 21, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Make Sure You're Listed -- List of Contributors Published
Dec 1! Dear Listers, The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! On December 1st I post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. As a number of people have pointed out in their Contribution comments, the Lists are a whole lot more valuable than your typical magazine subscription! Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 23, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Contributions Down By 20%...
Dear Listers, As of today, Contributions to the Matronics List Fund Raiser are lagging behind last year at this time by roughly 20%. I have a Fund Raiser each year simply to cover my operating costs for the Lists. I *do not* accept any advertising income to support the Lists and rely solely on the Contributions of members to keep the expenses paid. I run all of my own servers and they are housed here locally, and the Internet connection is a commercial-grade, T1 connection with public address space. I also maintain a full backup system that does nightly backups of all List-related data so that in the event of a server crash, all of the Lists and the many years of List archive data could be restored onto a new server in a matter of hours. All of this costs a fair amount of money, not to mention a significant amount of my personal time. I have a Fund Raiser each year to cover these costs and I ask that members that feel they receive a benefit from my investments make a modest Contribution each year to support the continued operation and upgrade of these services. If you enjoy the Lists, please make a Contribution today. I also offer some incentive gifts for larger Contribution levels. At the Contribution Web Site, you can use a credit card, Paypal, or personal check to show your support for the continuation of these services: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 25, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just A Few More Days To Make Your List Contribution...
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Date: Nov 27, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make A Contribution Today...
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Date: Nov 29, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just Two Days Left - Still Way Behind...
Dear Listers, There are just two more days left in this years List Fund Raiser. Over the last few weeks I have received some really nice comments from members on what the Lists have meant to them. I have included some of them below. Please read over the comments and ponder on your own feelings about the Lists and the support and camaraderie you have found here. We are still way behind last year in terms of the number of contributions. I really want to keep providing these services to the homebuilt community, but it take resources. Since there's no advertising budget or deep pockets to keep the operation a float, its solely your generosity during the Fund Raiser that keeps things going. Please make a Contribution today. If you've been putting off showing your support for the Lists, now is the time to do it! Make a contribution with a Credit Card or though PayPal at that Matronics Contribution web site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a check in the mail: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you in advance for your support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ==================== A Few List Member Comments ===================== I get a lot of useful information and satisfaction from belonging to your groups. Somehow you foster a great sense of community without the baggage that accompanies other lists. Dave S. We do appreciate you running the lists spam and advertising free. Jeff P. I am celebrating my first flight day and you and the lists deserve a thanks since without it my build would have taken twice as long. Chris L. I enjoy the list. Have my morning coffee with it! Buddy M. Your lists are the best investment of my time and money, bar none, when it comes to interfacing with my fellow amateur builders. Owen B. Keep it going!! Thanks for taking over. Wallace J. I enjoy the Pietenpol List a lot. Malcolm Z. Thanks for your great site! As a new CJ-6 owner, your web site is an invaluable resource. Ken B. Great informational source. Fred S. Thanks for doing this! Lance G. Thank you for the service i do enjoy the many hours I use on line with the banter/ serious technical items. Noel G. Thanks for the years of builder support. Roy H. Great forum! Roger C. Thank you VERY MUCH, Matt, for carrying on with this great service. The "Europa" community really appreciates it. All the best, Svein - now celebrating 10 years as a subscriber, I think! Svein J. Matt, I'm building a much nicer and safer airplane because of your efforts. Robert D. 21 years for you 9 years for me on the Zenith lists. Could not imagine building and flying without Matronics. Brian U. Thanks for ALL the hard work and time you put into maintaining these forums. As an EAA Tech counselor I recommend them often. Paul M. This Pietenpol list is a huge part of the motivation that keeps me working on my project. This has been a great place for meeting like minded folks and getting help for the difficult parts. Thomas S. Thanks for the excellent service Matt. Frank S. Matt, I'm a Sonex building, but I have to say that the Piet group is without a doubt the most interesting. Ken M. I can't tell you how much I appreciate the Piet List. This is one of my sanity lifelines! Daniel H. Your site has provided us over the years with excellent connections to others for advice. Good job! Bob M. Kolb List is my #1 source! Henry V. Matt, you do a great job with this site. I've been with it since the beginning! John M. I am very grateful for all of your excellent work on the List. Arthur L. Thank you for the service you provide us all! Nicholas C. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 30, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser!
Dear Listers, Its November 30th and that means a couple of things. Its my birthday again, 48 of them, in fact! But it also means that its that last official day of the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser! If you been jones'n over one of those really nice incentive gifts now is the time to jump on one!! If you've been meaning to make a Contribution this month but have been putting it off for some reason, NOW is the time! I will be posting the List of Contributors in a few days, so you'll probably want to be known as a person that supported the Lists! I want to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution this year in support of our Lists. It is your generosity that keeps this operation running and I don't ever forget it. Hopefully everyone feels the same. Below are a few more of the nice comments from Listers I've received this year. Please read them over and see if you don't agree. The List Contribution Web Site is fast and easy. Please support our habit by making your Contribution right now: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you to all in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ==================== A Few More List Member Comments ===================== I never would have ended up with the great flying airplane I have without the help of people on the Pietenpol list. Thanks for giving us the medium to communicate our questions, tips and suggestions. Matt P. Thanks for the hard work and maintaining the site commercial free. Good luck for the future and this site has been a source of great friendship. Peter B. It is a great resource. Jim G. Thanks so much for your continuing support of the homebuilt community. Gerald A. You are doing an outstanding job running the list's. Keep it going. Bill V. Thanks for keeping this valuable information source going. Best of all the forums. George A. Another Great year on the RV-List! Thomas E. Still the best source of information (& opinion) for builders on a wide range of issues. Martin H. Matt, thanks for hosting and maintaining the lists! Rumen D. It is a great resource. Bryan R. Thanks for your continuing interest in Van's RV8 kitplanes. Peter C. I'm no longer building or flying but like to keep in touch with the current generation of builders. Best wishes to a great list system. Gerry C. A great list that is most useful for builders. Graham H. Thanks for this wonderful tool! Ralph C. Thanks for a great service to the experimental aviation community. Douglas D. Great topics and loads of useful info keep the subject matter relevant. George H. Thanks for keeping this going. Richard R. Great facility and well managed. Victor F. Thanks for a great service. John D. Thank you for you time and efforts they have made Aviation a better place for everyone. Jim W. I still enjoy getting the list in the morning. Don M. You provide a great resource. David M. You have probably saved a few necks over the years. Robert F. Thank you for being there. Benjamin B. You perform a great service. Bruce M. Thank you for providing this invaluable resource. William D. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 04, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Hardware Failure - Matronics Web Servers Currently Offline
failure and is currently not available. Replacement hardware has been ordered and should arrive on Tuesday 12/6/2011. All services should be restored shortly there after. During the outage, the Matronics Forums, Wiki, and other web-based List services will NOT be available. However, during the outage, all normal EMAIL based sevices WILL be available so you may continue to post messages to the various lists without an issue. I am so sorry for any inconvenience this web server outage has caused... Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 07, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Matronics Web Services Restored!
Dear Listers, web services have been fully restored including the Web Forums, List Browse, Archive Search, Wiki, and AeroElectric web sites. It was quite an ordeal getting the replacement boards for the server, but things went back together tonight and are up and running nicely. The first company I ordered the boards from originally called me a day later to say that, whoops, they really didn't have them in stock after all... Fortunately, I was able to locate some through a different source and had then over-nighted and they arrived today. Thank you for your patience and consideration though the whole thing! The List Contribution web site is also back on line for those wishing to make a donation to the effort: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 19, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: 2011 List of Contributors
Dear Listers, The 2011 Matronics Email List and Forum Fund Raiser officially ended a couple of weeks ago and its time that I publish this year's List of Contributors. Its the people on this list that directly make the Email Lists and Forums possible. Their generous contributions keep the servers and Internet connection up and running! You can still show your support this year and pick up a great gift at the same time. The Contribution Web Site is fast, easy, and secure: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I also want to thank Bob, Jon, and Andy for their generous support through the supply of great gifts this year!! These guys have some great products and I encourage you to visit their respective web sites: Bob Nucklolls - AeroElectric - http://www.aeroelectric.com Jon Croke - HomebuiltHELP - http://www.homebuilthelp.com Andy Gold - The Builder's Bookstore - http://www.buildersbooks.com And finally, I'm proud to present The 2011 Fund Raiser List of Contributors: http://www.matronics.com/loc/2011.html Thanks again to everyone that made a Contribution this year!! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: 2011 List of Contributors
From: "Brigham" <adamgayle4(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jan 28, 2012
I read all the information and also see the list. I think this list is very helpful for everyone including me and i hope in future you also update us. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=365011#365011 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Brad Kramer" <brad@vision-technology.com>
Subject: 181 mph Allegro!
Date: Jan 30, 2012
This list has been way too quiet, so I thought it was time to shake things up and brag about my 181 mph Allegro. (hopefully this list allows the attached pictures to go through). Of course we won't discuss how fast I was going in the OTHER direction. It was a strange day. 55 degrees (in North Dakota, in January, and that was ABOVE zero). Surface winds were 10 mph, while the winds at 2,500' agl were 60 mph. Amazingly, no wind shear and just a little light chop. In 24 years of flying I've never seen that kind of difference in the wind without getting tossed around the sky. Hope everybody else is getting some flying in too. Forecast today is 45 F and 10 mph winds, so I may have to get out and fly for the first time in a few weeks. Brad Kramer Mandan ND USA N221FA ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Brad Kramer" <brad@vision-technology.com>
Subject: Allegro at Sebring Expo
Date: Jan 30, 2012
It's reassuring to see that the Allegro is again being actively marketed and made an appearance at the 2012 Sebring Expo. That's eases the concerns a bit about us ending up owning an orphan. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gqo3L6G5dk8 Seeing those nice doors, comfy seats and higher fuel capacity of the Allegro 2007 sure makes it tempting to trade up. (my bank account suggests otherwise) ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Dynon autopilot servo installation photos
From: "theskunk" <rob.wilmoth(at)gmail.com>
Date: Feb 26, 2012
Have you thought about putting a trutrak Yaw Damper of some form on the aircraft? Also, was this factory installed? I'm considering taking the punch with one of these aircraft since the factory is down the street (makes getting support a cinch!). My only concern is around cruise speed... i'm one of those who did all his pro-solo training in an SR22T, then later finding out that the medical wasn't going to pass, and so i'd like to keep as close to the 120kt range as possible. I'm hoping to at least get 105-110kts out of it. Any thoughts? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=367327#367327 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: 181 mph Allegro!
From: "theskunk" <rob.wilmoth(at)gmail.com>
Date: Feb 26, 2012
What type of cruise speeds do you typically get in your airplane? Is yours a 2000 or 2007? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=367336#367336 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: 181 mph Allegro!
From: Brad Kramer <brad@vision-technology.com>
Date: Feb 27, 2012
I have an Allegro 2000 - 80 hp. At 4950 rpm the speed is 100 kts. ...brad ---------------------------------- Sent from Android phone theskunk wrote: What type of cruise speeds do you typically get in your airplane? Is yours a 2000 or 2007? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=367336#367336 _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Brad Kramer" <brad@vision-technology.com>
Subject: Re: 181 mph Allegro!
Date: Feb 27, 2012
Hi Rob, If I recall your earlier email... you're hoping to find the fastest LSA you can? What other kind of requirements or limits do you have? If you're interested in experimental, a Titan Tornado II-S or a Sonex might fit the mission. They aren't as refined, quiet or comfortable as an Allegro and maybe need more runway, but as I understand it they are somewhat faster. I guess it all depends on how long of trips you are looking at. For me, 90% of my flights are within a 200 mile radius. At that distance the speed differences aren't significant in trip time. But if you're planning frequent trips of, say, 500 miles or more then the speed becomes much more of a factor. My bottom-line suggestion is to be realistic about the flying you'll do. If most of your travel will be under 300 miles or so then don't worry too much about speed. The comfort, enjoyment, flying qualities, range and payload of the plane will mean a lot more to you than a few minutes difference in how long it takes to get there. I'd certainly be happy to offer any personal opinions and sharing of experience as you go through making this decision. (my previous planes include a 65 mph Fisher Classic biplane and a 180 mph Mooney, plus several others in-between, so I'm happy to share my personal observations regarding speed vs. cost vs. flying qualities, etc). For me, the Allegro is a great fit. It is my 6th airplane and is by far the one I've owned the longest. (with no intention of selling anytime soon). Every plane is a compromise. This one is what works best for my needs. Best of luck! Brad Kramer Allegro N221FA Mandan ND -----Original Message----- From: owner-allegro-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-allegro-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of theskunk Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 10:28 PM Subject: Allegro-List: Re: 181 mph Allegro! What type of cruise speeds do you typically get in your airplane? Is yours a 2000 or 2007? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=367336#367336 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Armrest
From: "ledson" <ledson(at)oneil.com>
Date: Apr 04, 2012
Has anyone out there thought of developing an armrest for the Allegro? I know that after 1 1/2 -2 hours my arm becomes tired and I believe I could benefit from one. Thanks, Larry Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=370033#370033 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Hugh McKay" <hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Seat Belt Harness
Date: Apr 05, 2012
Does anyone know who makes the safety belt harness used on the Allegro 2000 LSA? Hugh G. McKay III, P.E. Allegro 2000 N661WW ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: 181 mph Allegro!
From: "theskunk" <rob.wilmoth(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jun 03, 2012
Brad, Forgive the delay in responding, for some reason email notifications had been turned off... I've got a few requirements for my mission, almost all of which is less than 300, with one potential up to 400 for a grandparent in Indiana (400.2, in fact). Realistically that far away, i'd expect to be 4 hours realistically for any LSA, fast or slow, and that would probably require a fuel/restroom stop for me. I'm currently looking more toward an SLSA aircraft, however would be willing to consider an ELSA from an experienced builder -- I do not have a desire to build my own aircraft at this time, but would probably want to do something like that down the road. I've been flying a Sportcruiser for the past few months, and while I have enjoyed it, the plane is almost 2 hours drive away, which does inhibit my usage quite a bit. I would have flown this past weekend to my vacation destination, for example (25 minute flight vs 2 hour car ride + the joy of getting there by air!) As for load, the allegro doesn't seem to be able to be beat, however I'd really prefer glass cockpit, xm weather, and an autopilot, which it doesn't seem like most of them have. As for budget, i'd like to stay in the 50-75k range, as thats what I believe my partner and I can handle. The other concern for the Allegro, is the storage... I'm not sure that we'd be able to swing a hanger all year, and it does surely seem that with a fiberglass aircraft, they seem to want them stored inside... even the metal ones seem to need to be indoor kept... Thoughts? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=374632#374632 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Brad Kramer" <brad@vision-technology.com>
Subject: Allegro Decision
Date: Jun 04, 2012
Hi Rob, For your mission the Allegro would be a great airplane. A couple thoughts... - the baggage area is weight limited (I think 30# on my particular plane) - a glass panel would be nice, but certainly not needed. They can also be a distraction when your eyes should be looking outside the plane 99% of the time. Recent studies are showing they don't contribute to safety, at least not for VFR flying. - XM weather. Nice to have, depending on the typical weather in your part of the country. For some of us it is usually VFR with thunderstorms visible 50 miles away or hard IFR so it isn't as much of an issue. - hangar... if I had to forego a glass panel and other bells & whistles in return for having a hangar, I'd go for the hangar. It'll protect your resale value and lower your insurance costs, so the long-term cost of a hangar is somewhat less than what the hangar rent is. At my airport hangars run from $90 - $160 / month. Of course some metro airports are many times that cost. Make sure you research insurance costs... experimental and SLSA's are not cheap to insure. - autopilot... I've only used autopilots in Cessna's and Mooney's, so can't comment about how well they may work in a light wing-loading plane like an Allegro that is more susceptible to turbulence. - remember... the more stuff installed in an airplane, the more there is to go wrong. Simplicity generally increases reliability and decreases maintenance costs. - if you haven't owned a plane before, you may find that you won't fly as many cross-country trips as you think you will. That's probably true for 70% of new plane owners. Hopefully that gives you a few more things to think about. Of course much of it comes down to personal preference, budget and how you'll use the plane. There is no perfect plane. The trick is finding the balance of compromises that work out best for you. Good luck! Brad Kramer Allegro N221FA Mandan, ND -----Original Message----- From: owner-allegro-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-allegro-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of theskunk Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 8:57 PM Subject: Allegro-List: Re: 181 mph Allegro! Brad, Forgive the delay in responding, for some reason email notifications had been turned off... I've got a few requirements for my mission, almost all of which is less than 300, with one potential up to 400 for a grandparent in Indiana (400.2, in fact). Realistically that far away, i'd expect to be 4 hours realistically for any LSA, fast or slow, and that would probably require a fuel/restroom stop for me. I'm currently looking more toward an SLSA aircraft, however would be willing to consider an ELSA from an experienced builder -- I do not have a desire to build my own aircraft at this time, but would probably want to do something like that down the road. I've been flying a Sportcruiser for the past few months, and while I have enjoyed it, the plane is almost 2 hours drive away, which does inhibit my usage quite a bit. I would have flown this past weekend to my vacation destination, for example (25 minute flight vs 2 hour car ride + the joy of getting there by air!) As for load, the allegro doesn't seem to be able to be beat, however I'd really prefer glass cockpit, xm weather, and an autopilot, which it doesn't seem like most of them have. As for budget, i'd like to stay in the 50-75k range, as thats what I believe my partner and I can handle. The other concern for the Allegro, is the storage... I'm not sure that we'd be able to swing a hanger all year, and it does surely seem that with a fiberglass aircraft, they seem to want them stored inside... even the metal ones seem to need to be indoor kept... Thoughts? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=374632#374632 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 04, 2012
From: "" <jlhazen(at)copper.net>
Subject: Re: 181 mph Allegro!
Rob, I just thought I'd jump in. Me and the "Skeeter" (Allegro N44469) have been to 48 states & 120+ airports. I usually fly a max of 600 miles per day, which is 2-fuel stops. I try for a 2-hour turn around. That gives time for gas, bio-break and weather brief. I use an AnywhereMap touchscreen ATC for NAV system. More features and way less than Garmin. Those big clear doors make the Allegro great for inflight photography. Happy flying, Jim N44469 --- rob.wilmoth(at)gmail.com wrote: From: "theskunk" <rob.wilmoth(at)gmail.com> Subject: Allegro-List: Re: 181 mph Allegro! Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 18:57:25 -0700 Brad, Forgive the delay in responding, for some reason email notifications had been turned off... I've got a few requirements for my mission, almost all of which is less than 300, with one potential up to 400 for a grandparent in Indiana (400.2, in fact). Realistically that far away, i'd expect to be 4 hours realistically for any LSA, fast or slow, and that would probably require a fuel/restroom stop for me. I'm currently looking more toward an SLSA aircraft, however would be willing to consider an ELSA from an experienced builder -- I do not have a desire to build my own aircraft at this time, but would probably want to do something like that down the road. I've been flying a Sportcruiser for the past few months, and while I have enjoyed it, the plane is almost 2 hours drive away, which does inhibit my usage quite a bit. I would have flown this past weekend to my vacation destination, for example (25 minute flight vs 2 hour car ride + the joy of getting there by air!) As for load, the allegro doesn't seem to be able to be beat, however I'd really prefer glass cockpit, xm weather, and an autopilot, which it doesn't seem like most of them have. As for budget, i'd like to stay in the 50-75k range, as thats what I believe my partner and I can handle. The other concern for the Allegro, is the storage... I'm not sure that we'd be able to swing a hanger all year, and it does surely seem that with a fiberglass aircraft, they seem to want them stored inside... even the metal ones seem to need to be indoor kept... Thoughts? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=374632#374632 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Brad Kramer" <brad@vision-technology.com>
Subject: Cross-country Allegro
Date: Jun 04, 2012
48 states? That's impressive. I don't think I've even had my Allegro to 48 airports. And only 4 or 5 states. Well done! You're right, 600 miles is usually enough for one day and that's if the weather cooperates. I did replace my seat-bottom foam with temperfoam (CONFOR foam) for a lot more comfort on long trips. http://www.aviationsupplyonline.com/custom.em?pid=548924 As I recall I used a laminate of 1" pink (soft) and 1" blue (medium). It was an easy project, especially since I didn't do the seat-back. ...brad. -----Original Message----- From: owner-allegro-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-allegro-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of jlhazen(at)copper.net Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 9:55 AM Subject: Re: Allegro-List: Re: 181 mph Allegro! Rob, I just thought I'd jump in. Me and the "Skeeter" (Allegro N44469) have been to 48 states & 120+ airports. I usually fly a max of 600 miles per day, which is 2-fuel stops. I try for a 2-hour turn around. That gives time for gas, bio-break and weather brief. I use an AnywhereMap touchscreen ATC for NAV system. More features and way less than Garmin. Those big clear doors make the Allegro great for inflight photography. Happy flying, Jim N44469 --- rob.wilmoth(at)gmail.com wrote: From: "theskunk" <rob.wilmoth(at)gmail.com> Subject: Allegro-List: Re: 181 mph Allegro! Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 18:57:25 -0700 Brad, Forgive the delay in responding, for some reason email notifications had been turned off... I've got a few requirements for my mission, almost all of which is less than 300, with one potential up to 400 for a grandparent in Indiana (400.2, in fact). Realistically that far away, i'd expect to be 4 hours realistically for any LSA, fast or slow, and that would probably require a fuel/restroom stop for me. I'm currently looking more toward an SLSA aircraft, however would be willing to consider an ELSA from an experienced builder -- I do not have a desire to build my own aircraft at this time, but would probably want to do something like that down the road. I've been flying a Sportcruiser for the past few months, and while I have enjoyed it, the plane is almost 2 hours drive away, which does inhibit my usage quite a bit. I would have flown this past weekend to my vacation destination, for example (25 minute flight vs 2 hour car ride + the joy of getting there by air!) As for load, the allegro doesn't seem to be able to be beat, however I'd really prefer glass cockpit, xm weather, and an autopilot, which it doesn't seem like most of them have. As for budget, i'd like to stay in the 50-75k range, as thats what I believe my partner and I can handle. The other concern for the Allegro, is the storage... I'm not sure that we'd be able to swing a hanger all year, and it does surely seem that with a fiberglass aircraft, they seem to want them stored inside... even the metal ones seem to need to be indoor kept... Thoughts? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=374632#374632 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 21, 2012
Subject: Arm-rests Allegro 2000
From: theo van duin <t.j.vanduin(at)gmail.com>
Fellow Allegro listers, At long voyages one may find that the Allegro 2000 airplane is not to be known as a flying arm-chair. The later model 2007 has more to offer in this respect, with a wider cabin an convex side windows. To compensate for the narrow space and the lack of a lower arm support, the Dutch Allegro-owner Tjakko Klip invented a left and right side window arm-rest component. See attached photographs. The parts are made of 3 mm polycarbonate with a mold and by means of vacuum suction after heating of te material. Tjakko is willing to order more than a few of these components and sell them to you in order share the advantage of his invention with you and to obtain some compensation for the expenses he made for the molds. For further information please contact Tjakko per email: Klip(at)online.nl Enjoy flying all of you, Theo van Duin Les Cargeots 71550 Cussy en Morvan France ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Stall Warning Failure
From: "ledson" <ledson(at)oneil.com>
Date: Jul 30, 2012
I'm trying to find out if anyone else is have this problem with the Stall Warning system on their Allegro 2000. Last Saturday during cruise flight, the stall warning horn started sounding. I was at approximately 95 mph. The stall warning light did not come on and there was not any changes in the AOA. Upon landing, the stall warning horn stopped sounding and the stall warning light came on like it normally does when landing. I checked the feed tube to ensure that there wasn't anything blocking it and then tried several more takeoff and landings with the same results. I'm assuming that it is either a failure of the stall warning control board or the ASI. Right now I'm at a loss on how to proceed. I don't have a wiring schematic of the stall warning system and without one I'm not sure what's next. So if anyone has any experience with this system I would certainly appreciate your advise. Thanks, Larry Edson N4362C Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379587#379587 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Stall Warning Failure
From: Brad Kramer <brad@vision-technology.com>
Date: Jul 30, 2012
I wouldnt think the ASI is involved unless we have a really unusual system. Maybe whatever control board it has or a wiring short to the horn? Brad N221FA. Bismarck ND P.s. was good to see the allegro folks with a display at OSH Brad Kramer / VisionTech (701) 222-3009 ledson wrote: I'm trying to find out if anyone else is have this problem with the Stall Warning system on their Allegro 2000. Last Saturday during cruise flight, the stall warning horn started sounding. I was at approximately 95 mph. The stall warning light did not come on and there was not any changes in the AOA. Upon landing, the stall warning horn stopped sounding and the stall warning light came on like it normally does when landing. I checked the feed tube to ensure that there wasn't anything blocking it and then tried several more takeoff and landings with the same results. I'm assuming that it is either a failure of the stall warning control board or the ASI. Right now I'm at a loss on how to proceed. I don't have a wiring schematic of the stall warning system and without one I'm not sure what's next. So if anyone has any experience with this system I would certainly appreciate your advise. Thanks, Larry Edson N4362C Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379587#379587 _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Hugh McKay" <hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Allegro-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 07/30/12
Date: Jul 31, 2012
Larry, I may have some schematic on the system. I will look and send you what I have. Hugh G. McKay III, P.E. Allegro 2000 Rotax 912 UL N661WW hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net -----Original Message----- From: Allegro-List Digest Server Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 2:55 AM Subject: Allegro-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 07/30/12 * ================================================= Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================= Today's complete Allegro-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the Allegro-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 12-07-30&Archive=Allegro Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 12-07-30&Archive=Allegro =============================================== EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive =============================================== ---------------------------------------------------------- Allegro-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 07/30/12: 2 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:37 AM - Stall Warning Failure (ledson) 2. 07:45 AM - Re: Stall Warning Failure (Brad Kramer) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Subject: Allegro-List: Stall Warning Failure From: "ledson" <ledson(at)oneil.com> I'm trying to find out if anyone else is have this problem with the Stall Warning system on their Allegro 2000. Last Saturday during cruise flight, the stall warning horn started sounding. I was at approximately 95 mph. The stall warning light did not come on and there was not any changes in the AOA. Upon landing, the stall warning horn stopped sounding and the stall warning light came on like it normally does when landing. I checked the feed tube to ensure that there wasn't anything blocking it and then tried several more takeoff and landings with the same results. I'm assuming that it is either a failure of the stall warning control board or the ASI. Right now I'm at a loss on how to proceed. I don't have a wiring schematic of the stall warning system and without one I'm not sure what's next. So if anyone has any experience with this system I would certainly appreciate your advise. Thanks, Larry Edson N4362C Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379587#379587 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Subject: Re: Allegro-List: Stall Warning Failure From: Brad Kramer <brad@vision-technology.com> I wouldnt think the ASI is involved unless we have a really unusual system. Maybe whatever control board it has or a wiring short to the horn? Brad N221FA. Bismarck ND P.s. was good to see the allegro folks with a display at OSH Brad Kramer / VisionTech (701) 222-3009 ledson wrote: I'm trying to find out if anyone else is have this problem with the Stall Warning system on their Allegro 2000. Last Saturday during cruise flight, the stall warning horn started sounding. I was at approximately 95 mph. The stall warning light did not come on and there was not any changes in the AOA. Upon landing, the stall warning horn stopped sounding and the stall warning light came on like it normally does when landing. I checked the feed tube to ensure that there wasn't anything blocking it and then tried several more takeoff and landings with the same results. I'm assuming that it is either a failure of the stall warning control board or the ASI. Right now I'm at a loss on how to proceed. I don't have a wiring schematic of the stall warning system and without one I'm not sure what's next. So if anyone has any experience with this system I would certainly appreciate your advise. Thanks, Larry Edson N4362C Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379587#379587 _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Stall Warning Failure
From: "ledson" <ledson(at)oneil.com>
Date: Jul 31, 2012
I received the following response from an e-mail that I sent to Allegro USA: That alarm is controlled by an small pressure switch near the airspeed indicator under the dash. I would start by removing the pitot line from the switch and make sure that the line is clear throughout the system. ( you should be able to blow air through the tube and out the hole in the wing) it is not likely but possible that the line has been pinched inside the wing. If you find resistance in the line, then trace it back through the wing and find and repair. If all is clear you can try adjusting the pressure switch, this will require a small screw driver and I few flights, to get it to were its only alarming about 5 miles an hour before stall. This can be tricky but doable. If this does not fix the problem then you would need to try replacing the pressure switch. But the likelihood of it being bad is slim Hope this helps, if your still having problems and you have tried all the above, let me know will look into it further. Thanks Kyle Lawler Production Manager LSA America Inc. I'll give this a try this weekend and see if I'm successful. Thanks, Larry Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379689#379689 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 02, 2012
From: "Jerry Goldberg" <jkgcpa(at)ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Stall Warning Failure
We do have an unusual stall warning system. The ASI has a stall warning electrical connection. A pressure switch interfaces between the static system and the control board. It causes the green light to light & powers the system. When stall setting approaches, the ASI sends a signal to the board to change the light to red & sound the horn. Your problem sounds like either the static connection to the pressure switch is bad, the pressure switch itself is bad, or the ASI setting mechanism has failed. The pressure switch is available through suppliers, its number is printed on the side. Trouble shoot it to see it is closing with a meter. Check your ASI connections in the back to see they are clean. If it's the internal ASI or the board, no one can fix it. So you would have to get a separate stall warning system. Let us know how it goes. Thanks, Jerry Goldberg N44456 X09 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Brad Kramer" <brad@vision-technology.com>
Date: Aug 02, 2012
Subject: Re: Stall Warning Failure
I don't understand how the airspeed indicator would play a role in determ ining when to sound a stall warning. It can't sense angle of attack, Any ideas? I'm curious now to peek behind my panel and see exactly how this all work s. (which I really should know anyway) Brad / N221FA -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Goldberg [mailto:jkgcpa(at)ix.netcom.com] Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2012 11:47 AM Subject: RE: Allegro-List: Stall Warning Failure l stall warning system. The ASI has a stall warningelectrical connection. A pressure switch interfaces between the staticsystem and the control bo ard. It causes the green light to light & powersthe system. When stall se tting approaches, the ASI sends a signal to theboard to change the light to red & sound the horn.Your problem sounds like either the static connec tion to the pressure switchis bad, the pressure switch itself is bad, or the ASI setting mechanism hasfailed. The pressure switch is available thr ough suppliers, its number isprinted on the side. Trouble shoot it to see it is closing with a meter.Check your ASI connections in the back to see they are clean. If it's theinternal ASI or the board, no one can fix it. So you would have to get aseparate stall warning system.Let us know how ========================_ ============= ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 04, 2012
Subject: Flap breaker popping
From: theo van duin <t.j.vanduin(at)gmail.com>
*Allegro list members:* * * *On July 14, 2008 Paul of Aerosiam wrote the following:* * * *The flap motor operates a vertical screw shaft which rotates in a nylon bushing riveted to the flap actuating arm. It is accessible after removing the white cover behind the pilot's seat. * * The screw shaft should be lubricated with lithium grease, I believe. If a 3 in 1 type oil is applied to the metal screw shaft, it causes the nylon bushing to expand. Over time, flap movement slows and the flap breaker starts popping due to the excess load. The cure is to tap out the nylon bushing until the screw shaft moves freely inside it. Turning the vertical drive shaft of my plane in de nylon bushing is difficult to be done by hand because of too much friction. To cure this problem, Paul advises to tap out the nylon bushing. But then my question is: which size of thread is in the bushing?* * * *My second question is: is a replacement set of shaft and bushing still available for the Allegro 2000?* * * *Thank you for your comments.* * * *Theo van Duin, France* *Allegro 2000* *71MM* * * ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 13, 2012
Subject: Re: Flap breaker popping
From: theo van duin <t.j.vanduin(at)gmail.com>
Fellow Allegro list members: Hugh=B4s idea of having a new nut made out of plastic material (not nylon but a better quality material for this porpose) appears to be feasible. I found a machining factory in the Netherlands that is equipped to do this job. See the site (in Dutch): http://www.mafaha.nl/ They accepted an order for 4 to 5 pieces at a price of 75 Euros a piece. To be sure that the nuts are dimensionally perfect I have to bring them the threaded shaft and the present nylon nut. Bringing them the parts can hopefully be done in a couple of weeks from now. Whenever you members want to participate in this project, please let me know at t.j.vanduin(at)gmail.com Theo van Duin (France) Allegro 2000 71MM 2012/8/4 theo van duin > *Allegro list members:* > * > * > *On July 14, 2008 Paul of Aerosiam wrote the following:* > * > * > *The flap motor operates a vertical screw shaft which rotates in a nylon > bushing riveted to the flap actuating arm. It is accessible after removin g > the white cover behind the pilot's seat. * > * The screw shaft should be lubricated with lithium grease, I believe. > If a 3 in 1 type oil is applied to the metal screw shaft, it causes the > nylon bushing to expand. Over time, flap movement slows and the flap > breaker starts popping due to the excess load. The cure is to tap out the > nylon bushing until the screw shaft moves freely inside it. > > Turning the vertical drive shaft of my plane in de nylon bushing is > difficult to be done by hand because of too much friction. To cure this > problem, Paul advises to tap out the nylon bushing. But then my question > is: which size of thread is in the bushing?* > * > * > *My second question is: is a replacement set of shaft and bushing still > available for the Allegro 2000?* > * > * > *Thank you for your comments.* > * > * > *Theo van Duin, France* > *Allegro 2000* > *71MM* > * * > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Stall Warning Failure
From: "ledson" <ledson(at)oneil.com>
Date: Aug 19, 2012
Brad, >From what I can gather, the ASI activates the stall warning system at around 30 mph plus it activates stall warning light at about 5 mph above stall. The pressure switch activates the stall warning horn when the pressure that it senses drops below the setting. I'm still trying to get a wiring schematic for the control board. I do have the wiring diagram that shows how the system is wired, but without understanding the logic that is on the board I'm at a loss. I've tried everything that has been suggested with no change. I would like to know the measured pressure that activates the pressure switch. That would allow me to adjust the pressure prior to flight without the trial and error method that has been suggested. If anyone out there has any suggestions, I'm certainly open to them. Thanks, Larry Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=381279#381279 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Stall Warning Failure
From: "ledson" <ledson(at)oneil.com>
Date: Oct 07, 2012
The stall warning system is repaired. Follow the guidance that was provided by Doug Hempstead, we performed diagnostics by parts replacement. Not my preferred approach, but without and understanding of the wiring and the board logic, it was the only way to go. We started by replacing the circuit board and then test flying the airplane. No change. We then ordered the pressure switch from Allegro USA. When we received the new pressure switch, we replaced the new circuit board with the old one. (Doug was good enough to take it back with no charge). We replaced the pressure switch, test flew the airplane and the stall warning system performed just like it should. It required no adjustments. Stall warning was about 5 MPH above stall. I'm thankful that it is repaired so I can enjoy the wonderful fall colors here in Ohio. Thanks to everyone that provided suggestions and assistance during this repair. Larry N4362C Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384901#384901 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Stall Warning Failure
From: "ledson" <ledson(at)oneil.com>
Date: Oct 07, 2012
The stall warning system is repaired. Follow the guidance that was provided by Doug Hempstead, we performed diagnostics by parts replacement. Not my preferred approach, but without and understanding of the wiring and the board logic, it was the only way to go. We started by replacing the circuit board and then test flying the airplane. No change. We then ordered the pressure switch from Allegro USA. When we received the new pressure switch, we replaced the new circuit board with the old one. (Doug was good enough to take it back with no charge). We replaced the pressure switch, test flew the airplane and the stall warning system performed just like it should. It required no adjustments. Stall warning was about 5 MPH above stall. I'm thankful that it is repaired so I can enjoy the wonderful fall colors here in Ohio. Thanks to everyone that provided suggestions and assistance during this repair. Larry N4362C Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384902#384902 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 01, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: PLEASE READ - Matronics Email List Fund Raiser During November!
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Subject: Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists
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From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: A Message From AeroElectric's Bob Nuckolls...
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From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Make A List Contribution - It's Your Personal Squelch Button...
There is an automatic "squelch button" of sorts for the Fund Raiser messages. Here's how it works... As soon as a List member makes a Contribution through the Matronics Fund Raiser web site, their email address is automatically added to this year's Contributor List and they instantly cease to receive further Fund Raiser messages for the rest of the month! Its just that simple! :-) I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware and software that are required to run a List Site such as this one. It also goes to pay for the commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the huge electric bill to keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered on. I run all of the Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which allows me to control and monitor every aspect of the system for the utmost in reliably and performance. Your personal Contribution matters because, when combined with other Listers such as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up and running. I accept exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand the pop-up ads and all other commercials that are so prevalent on the Internet these days and I particularly don't want to have it on my Email List sites. If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!! http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator [Note that there are certain circumstances where you might still see a Contribution related message. For example, if someone replies to one of the messages, when using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum. The system keys on the given email address and since most of these are anonymous public access methods, there is no simple way to filter them.] ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 10, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Support The Lists...
Dear Listers, Just a reminder that November is the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser month. There are some very nice incentive gifts to choose from as well! Please make your Contribution today at: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 12, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: What's Your Contribution Used For?
Dear Listers, You might have wondered at some pointd, "What's my Contribution used for?" Here are just a few examples of what your direct List support enables... It provides for the expensive, commercial-grade Internet connection used on the List. It pays for the regular system hardware and software upgrades enabling the highest performance possible for List services such as the Archive Search Engine, List Browser, and the Web Forums. It pays for the over 22 years of on-line archive data always available for instant search and access. And, it offsets the many hours spent writing, developing, and maintaining the custom applications that power these List Service such as the List Browse, Search Engine, Forums, and Wiki. But most importantly, your List Contribution enables a forum where you and your peers can communicate freely in an environment that is free from moderation, censorship, advertising, commercialism, SPAM, and computer viruses. It is YOUR CONTRIBUTION that directly enables all these aspects of Matronics List services. Please support it today with your List Contribution. Its one of the best investments you can make in your Sport! List Contribution Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 14, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published
in December! Dear Listers, The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 16, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Who is Matt Dralle & What Are The Lists?
Dear Listers, Who is Matt Dralle and what exactly are these Lists anyway? I've been working in the Information Technology industry for over 28 years, primarily in computer networking design and implementation and more recently as an embedded software engineer. I have also done a fair amount of work in web design and development. I started the Matronics Email Lists way back in 1990 shortly after I started building my RV-4 with about 30 fellow RV builders from around the world. Since that time, I have added many other types of aircraft related Lists to the line up and numerous other List related services such as the Forums, Wiki, Archives and Search Engine just to name a few. For flexibility and reliability, I have chosen to run all of my own servers locally. Other List-related systems include a 1 Gigabit, fully switched network infrastructure, a commercial-grade Netscreen firewall, a Barracuda spam filter, a local T1 Internet router, and a bonded dual T1 commercial-grade business Internet connection with full static addressing. The computer servers include a dual quad-core Linux server for List web services with 24GB of memory, a quad -core Linux system dedicated to the email processing List functions, and another standalone Linux system serving as a remote storage disk farm for the archives, databases, and for an on-line hard drive-based backup system with multi-terra byts of online storage. This entire system is protected by three large, commercial-grade uninterrupted power supply systems (UPS) that assure the Lists are available even during a local power outage! Speaking of power, imagine how much electricity it takes to run all of these systems. On the average, the elctric bill is in the neighborhood of $7000-$8000/yr and the newly upgraded dual-T1 Internet connection runs roughly $6000/yr. A while back, I upgraded all of the computer racking infrastructure including new power feeds and dedicated air conditioning for the room that serves as the Computer Center for the Matronics Email Lists and followed that upgrade up with a second rack upgrade to house the MONSTER web system that didn't quite fit into the first rack! Here's a composite photo of the List Computer Center prior to the addition of the second rack: http://www.matronics.com/MattDralle-ListComputerCenter.jpg As you can see, I take running these Lists very seriously and I am dedicated to providing an always-on, 24x7x365 experience for each and every Lister. But building and running this system isn't cheap. As I've mentioned many times before, I don't use commercial advertisments to support any of these systems. It is supported 100% through List member Contributions! That means you... and you... and YOU! To that end, I hold a List Fund Raiser each November and ask that members make a Contribution to support the continued operation and upgrade of this ever-expanding system. Its solely YOUR Contributions that keeps it running! Please make a Contribution today to support these Lists! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 19, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Reminder
Dear Listers, A quick reminder that November is the annual Matronics List Fund Raiser. The Lists are 100% member supported and all of the operational costs are covered solely through your Contributions during this time of the year. *Your* personal Contribution makes a difference and keeps all of the Matronics Email Lists and Forums completely ad-free. Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running for another great year! Use a credit card or your PayPal account here: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by sending a personal check to: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 21, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Some Nice Comments...
Dear Listers, I've been getting some very nice comments from Listers along with their List Support Contributions. I've shared a number of them below. Please read them over and see what your fellow Listers think of the Lists and Forums. Please make a Contribution today to support the continued upgrade and operation of these services. There are lots of sweet gifts available this year, so please browse the nice selection and pickup something fun with your qualifying Contribution! You may use a credit card or your PayPal account here: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or feel free to send a personal check to: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you in advance for your generous support! It is very much appreciated! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator -------------------- What Listers Are Saying About The Lists -------------------- I have been flying my Pietenpol for a month now and am enjoying the fruits of ten hard years of work. I seriously doubt it would ever have been finished but for the help, encouragement and friendships I've received and made through the Pietenpol list. Douwe B Outstanding service to the flying community. George A Matt, I look forward to support each others projects, Glenn B Great list!!! Thanks for all your efforts! Roger C Thank you for keeping up the lists. Without it i would never have completed my aircraft. Stan S Keep up the good work my friend. I don't think I could ever finish my Pietenpol Air Camper without the help I get from this List. Tom S Thank you for keeping these list alive. Lee V The List is invaluable!! Svein J Thanks for continuing to provide the list service! Earl S You have a really GREAT service. Thankyou so much I've been on for nearly 30 years and I still check-in every morning. John B I rely fully on the lists which govern my every decision. The flexibility provides the security I seek. Fergus K My RV 7 Finally flies... 7 years of Matronics.com certainly helped. Martin H Great service here, thanks! I am just getting back to a project I dropped for a few years, great to see your site and all the folks again! James C Thanks for the great site. Robert U The Rotax list is good and the AeroElectric list outstanding! Jay H Thank you for a great resource! Jack T Thanks for your great record of outstanding service to the homebuilding community! Larry W This service is invaluable. Michael W You're doing a great job Matt. Robert D Thanks for all your work, its a great asset to all. John F Thank you for your time & effort Matt! Ted W Matt, been a follower since 2005 on the -10 list, now starting an -8. Keep up the great work! John M Still my favorite place to hang out. William W I'm not a Piet builder, but this is the most informative and congenial list I've ever run across. Please forgive my lurking-I learn a LOT here! Ken M Many thanks for keeping this alive, keep pushing! Adrian C Thanks! Please keep r going! Rich Z Many thanks for your hard work. Robert C Thanks for the Lists! I probably need to subscribe to a few more... John M Been a quick 14 years. Think I subscribed to the Kolb List in 1998, when I got my first computer. Thanks for keeping everything running smoothly for all these years. John H Great resource - thank you. David M I don't post very much, but get the postings, a lot of really practical info. John N Great job Matt, thanks for all you do. Roger M Thanks for ANOTHER great year, Matt! True grassroots experimental aviation has been pushed aside in many ways. But the List represents the evolution of this great tradition of home-building. One man, the plans, the tools, and the List - that's all you need to build the dream! Robert B This message board is a real help to my project and creating friendships. John S Many thanks for your continuing excellent work. Mike G Thank you for your work Matt. Your lists have helped me a great deal during the construction of my plane. Hal B Nice List Van E These lists are priceless for builders. Ronald C Thanks for keeping me in touch with the Pulsar community. Otto S Thanks for keeping up this great warbird sight!! Yak Ron Thanks for providing all the lists for so many years. H H Thanks for all that you do. Your dedication is much appreciated! Warren H Best service on the internet! Owen B I have learned so much from the "list". Nick C Great Service You Are Providing! Giffen M Thanks so much for maintaining these great resources. Dave S I no longer fly due to age and health problems, but I still enjoy the reading from other pilots. Dallas S This is a wonderful site. Robert B Useful service over the last year - thanks. Om T -------------------- What Listers Are Saying About The Lists -------------------- ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 23, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: "Black Friday" For List Fund Raiser...?
Dear Listers, The number of List subscriptions are up by a fair amount this year, but support during this year's Fund Raiser is substantially behind last year, and there's only about a week left until the end of the Fund Raiser. I have always preferred a non-commercial List experience as many, many members have also expressed that they do as well. However, if the yearly fund raiser cannot generate sufficient funds to keep the bills paid, other sources of income might be required including some sort of advertising. Please don't let that happen! Your personal Contribution of $20 or $30 goes a long ways to keeping this operation a float. Please make sure your name is on this year's List of Contributors! The List Contribution site is secure, quick, and easy: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you in advance for your support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 25, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just A Few More Days To Make Your List Contribution...
There is less than a week left in this year's List Fund Raiser and only a few short days to grab one of the great Contribution Gifts available this year. Support is still significantly lagging behind last year at this point but hopefully it will pick up here towards the end. Please remember that it is solely the Contributions of List members that keeps the Lists up and running as there is no commercialism or advertising on the Matronics Lists and Forums. The List Contribution web site is secure, fast, and easy and you can use a credit card, Paypal, or a personal check: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I want to thank everyone that has already made a generous contribution to support the Lists! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics EMail List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 26, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Contributions Down By 23%...
Dear Listers, As of today, Contributions to the Matronics List Fund Raiser are lagging behind last year at this time by roughly 23%. I have a Fund Raiser each year simply to cover my operating costs for the Lists. I *do not* accept any advertising income to support the Lists and rely solely on the Contributions of members to keep the expenses paid. I run all of my own servers and they are housed here locally, and the Internet connection is a commercial-grade, dual T1 connection with public address space. I also maintain a full backup system that does nightly backups of all List-related data so that in the event of a server crash, all of the Lists and the many years of List archive data could be restored onto a new server in a matter of hours. All of this costs a fair amount of money, not to mention a significant amount of my personal time. I have a Fund Raiser each year to cover these costs and I ask that members that feel they receive a benefit from my investments make a modest Contribution each year to support the continued operation and upgrade of these services. If you enjoy the Lists, please make a Contribution today. I also offer some incentive gifts for larger Contribution levels. At the Contribution Web Site, you can use a credit card, Paypal, or personal check to show your support for the continuation of these services: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 27, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Coming in
December! Dear Listers, There's just a couple more days left in this year's List Fund Raiser and that means the List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 28, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just 3 Days Left - Please Make Your List Contribution Today!
There are only three days left until the end of this year's List Fund Raiser. Please take a minute to show your support as so many others have this year and make sure YOUR name is on the forthcoming List of Contributors! Its quick and easy using the secure web site with a credit card or PayPal: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by sending your personal check to: Matronics Lists c/o Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you in advance for your support of these List services! Matt Dralle Matronics Email and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 29, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just Two Days Left! - Still Behind...
Dear Listers, There are just two more days left in this years List Fund Raiser. Over the last couple of weeks I have received some more really nice comments from members on what the Lists have meant to them. I have included a few more of them below. Please read over the comments and ponder on your own feelings about the Lists and the support and camaraderie you have found here. We are still behind last year in terms of the number of contributions. I really want to keep providing these services to the homebuilt community, but it take resources. Since there's no advertising budget or deep pockets to keep the operation a float, its solely your generosity during the Fund Raiser that keeps things going. Please make a Contribution today. If you've been putting off showing your support for the Lists, now is the time to do it! Make a contribution with a Credit Card or though PayPal at that Matronics Contribution web site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a check in the mail: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you in advance for your support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ==================== A Few List Member Comments ===================== I have been flying my Pietenpol for a month now and am enjoying the fruits of ten hard years of work. I seriously doubt it would ever have been finished but for the help, encouragement and friendships I've received and made through the Pietenpol list. Douwe B Hey-Long time subscriber, zero-time contributor. Just a note of thanks. This is first time I have the resources to contribute. Thanks for carrying a lightweight for years and a special thanks for your time and effort. Billy R My 601 hd is flying with the help with the listers. Noel G A very useful facility. Graeme B ..great site! Robert C Great Pietenpol site! Don Y Not active but always interested in keeping up. Enjoy when I can. Richard R Dave and Tim from Aircrafters just want to reiterate our thanks for hosting the lists. Tim F. I don't have a lot to give at this time of year, but I hope my contribution helps none the less. I really enjoy the message board. Mark C Thanks to your continued work on maintaining these lists. Ralph C The lists and the various contributors have been a great help while I was building and also now that I'm flying. Albert G Very helpful tools for the homebuilder. Vaughn T We appreciate your great help! Richard H Many of our customers have expressed to us that you provide them with an invaluable service - and we agree! Bill B I Fly a Quicksilver GT400 but love to read what the Kolb boys have to say and it was on your list that I found out about the Yamaha product Ring Free,, now called engine med, that shit works.. no carbon in my rings or any to speak of with the use of the Yamaha product with a premix 503 with over 300 hrs of use.. thanks to your Kolb bulletin board. Robert B You are providing a valuable service that helps a lot of people through information sharing. When I built my Pietenpol over 40 years ago we were largely on our own, working without a resource like this list. Graham H Thanks for the opportunity to link us all, keep the good work! Peter B ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 30, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser!
Dear Listers, Its November 30th and that always means a couple of things. Its my birthday again; number 49 actually! But it also means that its that last official day of the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser! If you been thinking about picking up one of those really nice incentive gifts now is the time to jump on it!! If you've been meaning to make a Contribution this month but have been putting it off for some reason, NOW is the time! I will be posting the List of Contributors in a few days, so you'll probably want to be known as a person that supported the Lists! I want to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution this year in support of our Lists. It is your generosity that keeps this operation running and I don't ever forget it. The List Contribution Web Site is fast and easy. Please support our habit by making your Contribution right now: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you to all in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 10, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: 2012 List of Contributors
Dear Listers, The 2012 Matronics Email List and Forum Fund Raiser officially ended about a week ago and its time that I publish this year's List of Contributors. It is the people on this list that directly make the Email Lists and Forums possible! Their generous Contributions keep the servers and Internet connection up and running! You can still show your support this year and pick up a great gift at the same time. The Contribution Web Site is fast, easy, and secure: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I also want to thank Bob, Jon, and Andy for their generous support through the supply of great gifts this year!! These guys have some excellent products and I encourage you to visit their respective web sites: Bob Nucklolls - AeroElectric - http://www.aeroelectric.com Jon Croke - HomebuiltHELP - http://www.homebuilthelp.com Andy Gold - The Builder's Bookstore - http://www.buildersbooks.com And finally, I'm proud to present The 2012 Fund Raiser List of Contributors: http://www.matronics.com/loc/2012.html Thanks again to everyone that made a Contribution this year!! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 01, 2013
From: Viorel Nichols <viorel.nichols(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Auto-response
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Date: Mar 13, 2013
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Date: Jun 06, 2013
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Subject: Allegro updates/improvements/retrofits
From: "theskunk" <rob.wilmoth(at)gmail.com>
Date: Oct 21, 2013
List, I've been working with Doug at Allegro LSA to come up with some potential retrofits to the existing Allegro 2000/2007 fleet to help make some improvements to the existing legacy fleet. Some of these things have already been brought up on this list, such as arm-rests, or better seats/autopilots. We've even been investigating how to add a few knots in cruise speed, or put some aileron trim into the aircraft in the form of a spring-loaded gust lock type device. Anybody with feedback to add, please contact me directly at rob.wilmoth(at)gmail.com, or see the discussion located here: http://sportpilottalk.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3391 Thanks and happy flying! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=411006#411006 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 01, 2013
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: PLEASE READ - Matronics Email List Fund Raiser During November!
Dear Listers, Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operation and upgrade of the Email List and Fourm Services at Matronics. It's solely through the Contributions of List members (you) that these Matronics Lists are possible. You have probably noticed that there are no banner ads or pop-up windows on any of the Matronics Lists or related web sites such as the Forums site http://forums.matronics.com , Wiki site http://wiki.matronics.com , or other related pages such as the List Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search , List Browse http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse , etc. This is because I believe in a List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely Airplanes and not about annoying advertisements. During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every couple of days reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. I ask for your patience and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages. The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all of the bills associated with running these lists. YOUR personal Contribution counts! This year we have a really HUGE and TERRIFIC line up of free gifts to go along with the various Contribution levels. In fact, there are over 30 different gifts to choose from - more than we've ever had before! There's something for everyone, to be sure. Most all of these gifts have been provided by some of the vary members and vendors that you'll find on the Matronics Lists and they have been either donated or provided at substantially discounted rates. This year, these generous members include: Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore http://www.buildersbooks.com Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric Connection http://www.aeroelectric.com Corbin Glowacki of My Pilot Store http://www.mypilotstore.com George Race of Race Consulting http://www.mrrace.com/ Jon Croke of HomebuiltHELP http://www.homebuilthelp.com These are very generous guys and I encourage you to visit their respective web sites. Each one offers a unique and excellent aviation-related product line. I would like publicly to thank Andy, Bob, Corbin, George, and Jon their generous support of the Lists again this year!! Please make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods including using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. All three methods afford you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying Contribution amount!! To make your Contribution, please visit the secure web site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral support over the years! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator RV-4/RV-6/RV-8 Builder/Rebuilder/Pilot ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 04, 2013
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists
Dear Listers, There is no advertising income to support the Matronics Email Lists and Forums. The operation is supported 100% by your personal Contributions during the November Fund Raiser. Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution too! You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you in advance for your generous support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 06, 2013
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Network Issues At Matronics Last Few Days...
Dear Listers, Starting sometime on Friday November 1st, my Internet Service Provider (ISP) began "upgrading" their Domain Name Servers (DNS). DNS servers allow the resolution of computer names such as "www.matronics.com" to real addresses such as 64.81.74.3. This also impacts email delivery as well, since there is another layer of resolution that applies to email names. Because of this upgrade on the part of my ISP, DNS service started getting unreliable around Friday sometime, but I didn't notice it until sometime on Saturday. When I used a tool called "nslookup" to test the resolution of name-to-address, about 50-75% of the time my ISP's servers would response with an "SERVFAIL" indicating that they didn't know the answer. I opened a ticket with the ISP on Saturday, and by Sunday afternoon I had no feedback on the ticket so I called in to support. "We upgrading the DNS servers, and it should back by Sunday at 5pm." 5pm came and went with no resolution. Well, long story short by Tuesday morning things were still not fixed and in fact much worse. So, I opted to move all my DNS service to a different service provider. I have a lot of DNS entries, so it took a while to get everything moved over. It generally takes about 24 hours for a change like that to fully propagate across the Internet which would be Wednesday morning sometime. I've noticed that the Matronics web server traffic is picking up again, so many sites have already propagated the new information. I really should have just moved the DNS on Saturday when I first noticed the troubles, but with stuff like this, you just keep believing that it gonna be fixed any minute now.... And, in fact, that's what my ISP kept telling me... Its always a giant bummer when stuff like this happens and particularly during the Fund Raiser. I apologize to anyone that has tried to make a Contribution in the last few days and had issues or was simply unable to connect. By the time you read this email, the DNS should be fully propagated, and I ask that you please try again. The Contribution web site URL is: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you for your kind consideration and patience, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 07, 2013
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution
Today! Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Please take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors (LOC)! As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems at least as valuable a building / entertainment tool as your typical magazine subscription! Assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 09, 2013
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists...
Dear Listers, Just a reminder that November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these great List services!! Pick up a really nice free gift with your qualifying Contribution too! The Contribution Site is fast and easy: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94551-0347 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 11, 2013
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: A List Contribution - It's Your Personal Squelch Button...
There is an automatic "squelch button" of sorts for the Fund Raiser messages. Here's how it works... As soon as a List member makes a Contribution through the Matronics Fund Raiser web site, their email address is automatically added to this year's Contributor List and they instantly cease to receive further Fund Raiser messages for the rest of the month! Its just that simple! :-) I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware and software that are required to run a List Site such as this one. It also goes to pay for the commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the huge electric bill to keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered on. I run all of the Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which allows me to control and monitor every aspect of the system for the utmost in reliably and performance. Your personal Contribution matters because, when combined with other Listers such as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up and running. I accept exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand the pop-up ads and all other commercials that are so prevalent on the Internet these days and I particularly don't want to have it on my Email List sites. If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!! http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator [Note that there are certain circumstances where you might still see a Contribution related message. For example, if someone replies to one of the messages, when using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum. The system keys on the given email address and since most of these are anonymous public access methods, there is no simple way to filter them.] ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 11, 2013
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Matronics Email Disruption Fixed...
Dear Listers, Starting around midnight this morning 11/11/13, the Matronics Barracuda spam filter that receives all incoming email from the Internet, developed a problem and started rejecting all incoming email. I just got off the phone with the Barracuda technical support and we have If you have posted to any of the Lists during this time, you will need to resend your email to the respective List. My apologies for the disruption! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 13, 2013
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make A List Contribution Today; Some Nice Comments...
Dear Listers, I've been getting some very nice comments from Listers along with their List Support Contributions. I've shared a number of them below. Please read them over and see what your fellow Listers think of the Lists and Forums. Please make a Contribution today to support the continued upgrade and operation of these services. There are lots of really nice gifts available this year, so please browse the selections and pickup something fun with your qualifying Contribution! You may use a credit card or your PayPal account here: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or feel free to send a personal check to: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you in advance for your generous support! It is very much appreciated! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator -------------------- What Listers Are Saying About The Lists -------------------- I wondered off for a few years & am coming back. I firmly believe you provide greater value to us than some magazine subscriptions. William F Thanks for helping me connect to people have truly blazed the trail. Terry M Thank you for the time and effort you put into keeping these lists going. I am on the verge of flying my RV 8 and would not be here without the help of Matronics. Michael W Thank you for providing a valuable service. Vaughn T Matt I like your forums. Jerry D Thank you for another year of service. Oscar Z Been a "member" for years - this has been a fantastic resource and a great gift to the aviation community. Reade G Thanks for the many years of support to RV builders. Roy H Best run list on the net. Roger C Thanks for your excellent forum! Fred D Truly respect your work and service to many readers!! Fergus K Thanks for an ad-free list! William A Thank you for your GREAT service. I read it every day. John B ..great service! Ralph C Thanks so much for being there. Your contribution to aviation knowledge is invaluable. Benjamin B Thank you for providing the list service. It's great! William V I'd never have finished my Glasair without them. Ronald C Thank you Matt for the valuable forum, am pleased to contribute! Jeffrey J Fine service. Byron G Thanks for your support of our community! Kenneth B -------------------- What Listers Are Saying About The Lists -------------------- ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 15, 2013
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published
in December! Dear Listers, The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 18, 2013
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Fund Raiser Behind By 25% - Please Contribute Today!
Dear Listers, The percentage of members making a Contribution to support the Lists this year is currently behind last year by at this time by roughly 25%. We got off to a slow start this year with the network DNS issues on the kickoff weekend, so please take this opportunity to show your support for the Matronics Lists and Forums! Please remember that it is *solely* your direct Contributions that keep these Lists and Forums up and running and most importantly - AD FREE! If the members don't want to support the Lists directly, then I might have to add advertisements to offset the costs of running the Lists. But I don't want to have to do that. I really like the non-commercial atmosphere here and I think that a lot of the members appreciate that too. Please take a moment to make a Contribution today in support of the continued ad-free operation of all these Lists: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA I want to send out a word of appreciation to all of the members that have already made their generous Contribution to support the Lists! Thank you! Matt Dralle Email List and Forums Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 20, 2013
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Value of the List...
If you look forward to checking your List email everyday (and a lot of you have written to say that you do!), then you're probably getting at least $20 or $30 worth of Entertainment from the Lists each year. You'd pay twice that for a subscription to some magazine or even a dinner out. Isn't the List worth at least that much to you? Wouldn't it be great if you could pay that amount and get a well-managed media source free of advertising, SPAM, and viruses? Come to think of it, you do... :-) Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support these Lists? http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA I want to say THANK YOU to everyone that has made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser!! These Lists are made possible exclusively through YOUR generosity!! Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Admin. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 22, 2013
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make A Contribution Today...
Dear Listers, A quick reminder that November is the annual List Fund Raiser and the List of Contributors is quickly approching. The Matronics Lists are 100% member supported and all of the operational costs are provided for by your Contributions during this time of the year. Your personal Contribution makes a big difference and keeps all of the Matronics Email Lists and Forums completely ad-free. Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running! http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 25, 2013
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: [PLEASE READ] Why I Have A Fund Raiser...
>From the beginning, the Matronics List and Forum experience has been free from advertising. I have been approached by fair number of vendors wanting to tap into the large volume of activity across the various lists hosted here, but have always flatly refused. Everywhere you go on the Internet these days, a user is pummeled with flashing banners and videos and ads for crap that they don't want. Yahoo, Google and that elk are not "free". The user must constantly endure their barrage of commercialism thrust into their face at an ever increasing rate. Enough is enough, and the Lists at Matronics choose not to succumb to that. That being said, running a service of this size is not "free". It costs a lot of money to maintain the hardware, pay for the electricity, air conditioning, maintenance contracts, etc, etc. etc. I choose to hold a PBS-like fund raiser each year during the month of November where I simply send out a short email every other day asking the members to make a small contribution to support the operation. That being said, that contribution is completely voluntary and non-compulsory. Many members choose not to contribute and that's fine. However, a very modest percentage of the members do choose to make a contribution and it is that financial support that keeps the Lists running. And that's it. To my way of thinking, it is a much more pleasant way of maintaining the Lists and Forums. The other 11 months of the year, you don't see a single advertisement or request for support. That's refreshing and that is a List and Forum that I want to belong to. I think other people feel the same way. Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support these Lists? http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Admin. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 26, 2013
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Of Pencils & Airplanes [Repost From AeroElectric-List]...
[Dear Listers, last week, Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric fame, posted a very nice message discussing the Lists and Forums at Matronics. It is a very insightful piece and I asked Bob if I could forward it to the rest of the Lists for the other members to enjoy and contemplate as well. He gladly agreed, and so below I have included the text from that message. Enjoy. -Matt Dralle, Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator] "As most of you know, Matt's ISP was fiddling with some crucial details for the exchange of data on the 'net a few weeks ago. The Lists, Matt's business site, and AeroElectric.com got really flakey. . . I was 'unhooked' from the List and all of three of my e-mail services for several days. Out of business and out of touch. After two days, I was beginning to worry. I had no idea as to root cause nor was there a time table for resolution . . . I began to mull over plan-B options. Of course, plan-B would have entailed seeking a new home for aeroelectric.com and ancillary services. NOT a quick, inexpensive or happy thing to contemplate. The time talents and resources that go into fabrication and maintenance of some of the 'simplest' features of our lives often go unnoticed . . . not because they're unappreciated . . . but simply because we're unaware of their significance. I will invite you all to read an essay by one Leonard Read written in 1958 titled "I pencil". See: http://tinyurl.com/me3q3hj It's a fascinating and well crafted peek into a society of unacquainted, self-interested individuals who exploited uncountable windows of opportunity for what has been called "spontaneous order" in the manufacture and sales of the simple wood pencil. The point of citing Mr. Read's essay is to examine two features of the human experience that contribute to the success of this List and our various interests in airplanes. The first point I'd like to make is that we cannot know the millions of individuals who contributed to the materials and infrastructure that make this List possible. We sit at the top of a pyramid of work-product derived from the time, talents and resources of millions of people who we'll never know. Another feature I'd like to emphasis is our ignorance of the criticality for any single component for a host of materials and components for the manufacture and sales of a simple pencil or an affordable airplane. Suppose any one of the materials or processes described in Read's essay were simply unavailable. How would that impact the price of a pencil? Would the pencil even continue to exist at it's new price? The really big question is, "How might some seemingly small loss ripple throughout the economy of our existence?" The time, talent and resources that support infrastructure for this List, my website, Matt's website, and our e-mails cannot be accurately known. That infrastructure stands on an exceedingly complex array of activities that arose from the ingenuity and spontaneous organization of free- market enterprises. But from our perch at the top of this pyramid we need only look down a few layers and see that this resource upon which we depend is vulnerable. There are risks we all assume . . . Matt could get t-boned in an intersection tomorrow. Lightning could strike the pole behind his facility and do catastrophic damage to the hardware. Yours truly could take a deer through the windshield on his way to Wichita some morning. Other risks are less catastrophic. They include things like amateurish behaviors by maintainers of the Internet highway's potholes. Perhaps some material critical to the manufacture of terabyte hard drives dries up. Or maybe the cost of keeping the lights on and the bytes herded become more than Matt can justify given his personal needs for existence. Several times a year I get an opportunity to plant new seeds of thought in the minds of fellow citizens. One of my favorites is to be standing in a long line at Panera's waiting to purchase a bagel and coffee and hear somebody in line complaining about the wait. I suggest to them that to wait in line for a much desired product is a GOOD thing. Not having to wait is a BAD thing if there is not enough business to encourage them to be open tomorrow. It goes without saying that few, if any of us, possess the talents, resources or motivation to step up and do what Matt does. At last count, there were about 1600 individuals who subscribe to this List [Aeroelectric-List]. . . certainly many more make up the population of subscribers to all of the Lists on Matronics. A few years back, Matt was besieged by legal trials and tribulations over the naming of his products . . . seems somebody claimed ownership of the words 'scan' and/or 'scanner' . . . We here on the AeroElectric-List perceived a risk to Matt's operations and came up with several thousands of dollars to contribute to his defense fund. We need make no greater 'investment' in Matt's operations now than it takes to stand in a line for a Quarter-Pounder Combo . . . or a fist full of pencils. You and I can have no more positive influence over the manufacture of pencils and hard drives than to continue to purchase such things and encourage those with the time, talent and resources to continue doing what they do best. Let's contribute to the comfortable maintenance of this service which is probably more valuable than we know. Just a little bit from thousands of us on the Matronics Lists can make a big difference. Bob . . ." Please take a minute to make your Contribution today: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 27, 2013
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Coming Soon!
Dear Listers, There's just a few more days left in this year's List Fund Raiser and that means the List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 29, 2013
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just Two Days Left...
Dear Listers, There are just a couple days left for this year's List Fund Raiser. If you've been putting off making a Contribution until the last minute, well, this is it! The last minute, that is... :-) There are some GREAT new gift selections to choose from this year. I personally want at least four of them! There's probably something you can't live without too! And, best of all it supports your Lists! Please remember that there isn't any sort of commercial advertising on the Lists and the *only* means of keeping these Lists running is through your Contributions during this Fund Raiser. Let's make this a "Black Friday" for the Lists! Please make a Contribution today! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 30, 2013
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser!
Dear Listers, It's November 30th and that always means a couple of things. Its my birthday again; the big 50, in fact! But it also means that it's that last official day of the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser! If you been thinking about picking up one of those really nice incentive gifts now is the time to jump on it!! If you've been meaning to make a Contribution this month but have been putting it off for some reason, NOW is the time! I will be posting the List of Contributors in a few days, so you'll probably want to be known as a person that supported the Lists! I want to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution this year in support of our Lists. It is your generosity that keeps this operation running and I don't ever forget it. The List Contribution Web Site is fast and easy. Please support our habit by making your Contribution right now: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you to all in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 16, 2013
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: 2013 List of Contributors
Dear Listers, The 2013 Matronics Email List and Forum Fund Raiser officially ended a couple of weeks ago and it's time that I published this year's List of Contributors. It is the people on this list that directly make these Email Lists and Forums possible! Their generous Contributions keep the servers and Internet connection up and running! You can still show your support this year and pick up a great gift at the same time. The Contribution Web Site is fast, easy, and secure: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I also want to thank Andy, Bob, Corbin, George, and Jon for their generous support through the supply of many great gifts this year!! These guys have some excellent products and I encourage you to visit their respective web sites: Andy Gold - The Builder's Bookstore - http://www.buildersbooks.com Bob Nucklolls - AeroElectric - http://www.aeroelectric.com Corbin Glowacki - My Pilot Store - http://www.mypilotstore.com George Race - Race Consulting - http://www.mrrace.com Jon Croke - HomebuiltHELP - http://www.homebuilthelp.com And finally, I'm proud to present The 2013 Fund Raiser List of Contributors: http://www.matronics.com/loc/2013.html Thank you again to everyone that made a Contribution this year!! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List & Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Please Make A Contribution Today...
From: "Claude6" <aronbrack65(at)gmail.com>
Date: Mar 24, 2014
Thanks for the post! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420973#420973 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Apr 16, 2014
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Matronics Web Server Down for Repair (PLEASE READ)...
Dear Listers, Late Tuesday night 4/15/2014, the Matronics Web server crashed due to a multi-disk RAID 5 failure. The system has complete data backups, but I will likely have to order some replacement disks to rebuild the system. I'll work as quickly as I can to restore the Matronics Web Server. The Matronics EMAIL server is NOT impacted by this issue. All normal Matronics Email List mail will flow as usual. However, the Matronics Web Forums interface will not be available. Also impacted by the Web Server outage will be the AeroElectric web site. I will try to post daily updates on the Web Server restoration status. I apologize for the inconvenience... :-( Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Admin. Matt G Dralle | Matronics | 581 Jeannie Way | Livermore | CA | 94550 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Apr 17, 2014
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Matronics Web Server Repaired and ONLINE! (PLEASE READ)
Dear Listers, The new hard drives for the Matronics web server arrived today, Thursday 4/17/2014 and the RAID5 disk array rebuild went very smoothly. Web server is back online and fully functional! No data or files were lost. Additionally, those that frequent the AeroElectric web site will find that it has been restored as well. Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Admin. Matt G Dralle | Matronics | 581 Jeannie Way | Livermore | CA | 94550 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 01, 2014
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: PLEASE READ - Matronics Email List Fund Raiser During November!
Dear Listers, Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operation and upgrade of the Email List and Fourm Services at Matronics. It's solely through the Contributions of List members (you) that these Matronics Lists are possible. You have probably noticed that there are no banner ads or pop-up windows on any of the Matronics Lists or related web sites such as the Forums site http://forums.matronics.com , Wiki site http://wiki.matronics.com , or other related pages such as the List Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search , List Browse http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse , etc. This is because I believe in a List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely Airplanes and not about annoying advertisements. During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every couple of days reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. I ask for your patience and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages. The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all of the bills associated with running these lists. YOUR personal Contribution counts! This year we have a really HUGE and TERRIFIC line up of free gifts to go along with the various Contribution levels. In fact, there are over 30 different gifts to choose from - more than we've ever had before! There's something for everyone, to be sure. Most all of these gifts have been provided by some of the vary members and vendors that you'll find on the Matronics Lists and they have been either donated or provided at substantially discounted rates. This year, these generous members include: Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore http://www.buildersbooks.com Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric Connection http://www.aeroelectric.com Corbin Glowacki of My Pilot Store http://www.mypilotstore.com George Race of Race Consulting http://www.mrrace.com/ Jon Croke of HomebuiltHELP http://www.homebuilthelp.com These are very generous guys and I encourage you to visit their respective web sites. Each one offers a unique and excellent aviation-related product line. I would like publicly to thank Andy, Bob, Corbin, George, and Jon their generous support of the Lists again this year!! Please make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods including using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. All three methods afford you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying Contribution amount!! To make your Contribution, please visit the secure web site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral support over the years! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator RV-4/RV-6/RV-8 Builder/Rebuilder/Pilot ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 03, 2014
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists
Dear Listers, There is no advertising income to support the Matronics Email Lists and Forums. The operation is supported 100% by your personal Contributions during the November Fund Raiser. Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution too! You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you in advance for your generous support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 05, 2014
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution
Today! Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Please take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors (LOC)! As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems at least as valuable a building / entertainment tool as your typical magazine subscription! Assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 07, 2014
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists...
Dear Listers, Just a reminder that November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these great List services!! Pick up a really nice free gift with your qualifying Contribution too! The Contribution Site is fast and easy: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94551-0347 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 10, 2014
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: A List Contribution - It's Your Personal Squelch Button...
There is an automatic "squelch button" of sorts for the Fund Raiser messages. Here's how it works... As soon as a List member makes a Contribution through the Matronics Fund Raiser web site, their email address is automatically added to this year's Contributor List and they instantly cease to receive further Fund Raiser messages for the rest of the month! Its just that simple! :-) I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware and software that are required to run a List Site such as this one. It also goes to pay for the commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the huge electric bill to keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered on. I run all of the Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which allows me to control and monitor every aspect of the system for the utmost in reliably and performance. Your personal Contribution matters because, when combined with other Listers such as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up and running. I accept exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand the pop-up ads and all other commercials that are so prevalent on the Internet these days and I particularly don't want to have it on my Email List sites. If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!! http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator [Note that there are certain circumstances where you might still see a Contribution related message. For example, if someone replies to one of the messages, when using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum. The system keys on the given email address and since most of these are anonymous public access methods, there is no simple way to filter them.] ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 12, 2014
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published
in December! Dear Listers, The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 14, 2014
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists...
Dear Listers, Just a reminder that November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these great List services!! Pick up a really nice free gift with your qualifying Contribution too! The Contribution Site is fast and easy: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 17, 2014
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: What's Your Contribution Used For?
Dear Listers, You might have wondered at some point, "What's my Contribution used for?" Here are just a few examples of what your direct List support enables... It provides for the expensive, commercial-grade Internet connection used on the List. It pays for the regular system hardware and software upgrades enabling the highest performance possible for List services such as the Archive Search Engine, List Browser, and the Web Forums. It pays for the over 23 years of on-line archive data always available for instant search and access. And, it offsets the many hours spent writing, developing, and maintaining the custom applications that power these List Service such as the List Browse, Search Engine, Forums, and Wiki. But most importantly, your List Contribution enables a forum where you and your peers can communicate freely in an environment that is free from moderation, censorship, advertising, commercialism, SPAM, and computer viruses. It is YOUR CONTRIBUTION that directly enables all these aspects of Matronics List services. Please support it today with your List Contribution. Its one of the best investments you can make in your Sport! List Contribution Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 19, 2014
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Value of the List...
If you look forward to checking your List email everyday (and a lot of you have written to say that you do!), then you're probably getting at least $20 or $30 worth of Entertainment from the Lists each year. You'd pay twice that for a subscription to some magazine or even a dinner out. Isn't the List worth at least that much to you? Wouldn't it be great if you could pay that amount and get a well-managed media source free of advertising, SPAM, and viruses? Come to think of it, you do... :-) Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support these Lists? http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA I want to say THANK YOU to everyone that has made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser!! These Lists are made possible exclusively through YOUR generosity!! Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Admin. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 21, 2014
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: [PLEASE READ] Why I Have A Fund Raiser...
Since the beginning, the Matronics List and Forum experience has been free from advertising. I have been approached by fair number of vendors wanting to tap into the large volume of activity across the various lists hosted here, but have always flatly refused. Everywhere you go on the Internet these days, a user is pummeled with flashing banners and videos and ads for crap that they don't want. Yahoo, Google and that elk are not "free". The user must constantly endure their barrage of commercialism thrust into their face at an ever increasing rate. Enough is enough, and the Lists at Matronics choose not to succumb to that. That being said, running a service of this size is not "free". It costs a lot of money to maintain the hardware, pay for the electricity, air conditioning, maintenance contracts, etc, etc. etc. I choose to hold a PBS-like fund raiser each year during the month of November where I simply send out a short email every other day asking the members to make a small contribution to support the operation. That being said, that contribution is completely voluntary and non-compulsory. Many members choose not to contribute and that's fine. However, a very modest percentage of the members do choose to make a contribution and it is that financial support that keeps the Lists running. And that's it. To my way of thinking, it is a much more pleasant way of maintaining the Lists and Forums. The other 11 months of the year, you don't see a single advertisement or request for support. That's refreshing and that is a List and Forum that I want to belong to. I think other people feel the same way. Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support these Lists? http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Admin. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 23, 2014
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just A Few Days Left...
Dear Listers, There are just a few days left for this year's List Fund Raiser. If you've been putting off making a Contribution until the last minute, well, this is it! The last minute, that is... :-) There are some GREAT new gift selections to choose from this year. I personally want at least three of them! There's probably something you can't live without too! And, best of all it supports your Lists! Please remember that there isn't any sort of commercial advertising on the Lists and the *only* means of keeping these Lists running is through your Contributions during this Fund Raiser. Let's make this a "Black Friday" for the Lists! Please make a Contribution today! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 24, 2014
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Fund Raiser Behind By 20% - Please Contribute Today!
Dear Listers, The percentage of members making a Contribution to support the Lists this year is currently behind last year by at this time by roughly 20%. Please take this opportunity to show your support for the Matronics Lists and Forums! Please remember that it is *solely* your direct Contributions that keep these Lists and Forums up and running and most importantly - AD FREE! If the members don't want to support the Lists directly, then I might have to add advertisements to offset the costs of running the Lists. But I don't want to have to do that. I really like the non-commercial atmosphere here and I think that a lot of the members appreciate that too. Please take a moment to make a Contribution today in support of the continued ad-free operation of all these Lists: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA I want to send out a word of appreciation to all of the members that have already made their generous Contribution to support the Lists! Thank you! Matt Dralle Email List and Forums Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 25, 2014
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Coming Soon!
Dear Listers, There's just a few more days left in this year's List Fund Raiser and that means the List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 26, 2014
From: dralle(at)matronics.com
Subject: Giving Thanks - Your List Contribution...
Dear Listers, Here in the United States, Thursday is our National day of Thanksgiving. Many of us will be traveling to be with our families and friends to share in generous feasts of plenty and giving thanks for the many blessings that have been bestowed upon us. Many Listers have expressed over the last couple of weeks how thankful they are for the Email Lists and Forums here on the Matronics servers and for all of the assistance and comradery they have experienced being a part of the Lists. One of my favorite comments is when someone writes to me and says something like, "Its the first thing I do in the morning while I'm having my morning coffee!". That's a wonderful tribute to the purpose and function of these Lists. Its always great to hear I'm not the only one that jumps out of bed each morning to check my List email!! Won't you take a minute today and show your appreciation for these Lists and for their continued operation and upgrade? The List Contribution Site is: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA Thank you in advance for your kind consideration, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 26, 2014
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Giving Thanks - Your List Contribution...
Dear Listers, Here in the United States, Thursday is our National day of Thanksgiving. Many of us will be traveling to be with our families and friends to share in generous feasts of plenty and giving thanks for the many blessings that have been bestowed upon us. Many Listers have expressed over the last couple of weeks how thankful they are for the Email Lists and Forums here on the Matronics servers and for all of the assistance and comradery they have experienced being a part of the Lists. One of my favorite comments is when someone writes to me and says something like, "Its the first thing I do in the morning while I'm having my morning coffee!". That's a wonderful tribute to the purpose and function of these Lists. Its always great to hear I'm not the only one that jumps out of bed each morning to check my List email!! Won't you take a minute today and show your appreciation for these Lists and for their continued operation and upgrade? The List Contribution Site is: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA Thank you in advance for your kind consideration, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 28, 2014
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just Two Days Left! - Still Behind...
Dear Listers, There are just two more days left in this years List Fund Raiser. We are still way behind last year in terms of the number of contributions and total contribution amount. I really want to keep providing these services to the homebuilt community, but it take resources. Since there's no advertising budget or deep pockets to keep the operation a float, its solely your generosity during the Fund Raiser that keeps things going. Please make a Contribution today. If you've been putting off showing your support for the Lists, now is the time to do it! Make a contribution with a Credit Card or though PayPal at that Matronics Contribution web site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a check in the mail: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you in advance for your support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 29, 2014
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Coming Soon!
Dear Listers, There's just two more days left in this year's List Fund Raiser and that means the List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 30, 2014
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser!
Dear Listers, It's November 30th and that always means a couple of things. Its my birthday again - 51, so don't reminde me! :-) But it also means that it's that last official day of the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser! If you been thinking about picking up one of those really nice incentive gifts now is the time to jump on it!! If you've been meaning to make a Contribution this month but have been putting it off for some reason, NOW is the time! I will be posting the List of Contributors in a few days, so you'll probably want to be known as a person that supported the Lists! I want to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution this year in support of our Lists. It is your generosity that keeps this operation running and I don't ever forget it. The List Contribution Web Site is fast and easy. Please support our habit by making your Contribution right now: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you to all in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 24, 2014
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: 2014 List of Contributors
Dear Listers, The 2014 Matronics Email List and Forum Fund Raiser officially ended a couple of weeks ago and it's time that I published this year's List of Contributors. It is the people on this list that directly make these Email Lists and Forums possible! Their generous Contributions keep the servers and Internet connection up and running! You can still show your support this year and pick up a great gift at the same time. The Contribution Web Site is fast, easy, and secure: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I also want to thank Andy, Bob, Corbin, George, and Jon for their generous support through the supply of many great gifts this year!! These guys have some excellent products and I encourage you to visit their respective web sites: Andy Gold - The Builder's Bookstore - http://www.buildersbooks.com Bob Nucklolls - AeroElectric - http://www.aeroelectric.com Corbin Glowacki - My Pilot Store - http://www.mypilotstore.com George Race - Race Consulting - http://www.mrrace.com Jon Croke - HomebuiltHELP - http://www.homebuilthelp.com And finally, I'm proud to present The 2014 Fund Raiser List of Contributors: http://www.matronics.com/loc/2014.html Thank you again to everyone that made a Contribution this year!! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List & Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Swelling gas cap
From: "ledson" <Larryedson(at)ymail.com>
Date: Jan 24, 2015
I've noticed that the gas cap on my allegro 2000 is getting very difficult to remove and replace. I Believe the the plastic cap has swelled or expanded to the point that it can't be removed with out the use of pliers. I thought that it might be the O ring that was causing the problem, so I removed the O ring and tried putting the gas cap on. No luck. It was still just as tight. If anyone has had this problem and knows a fix, please let me know. Thanks, Larry N4362C Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=437597#437597 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Swelling gas cap
From: "ledson" <Larryedson(at)ymail.com>
Date: Jan 24, 2015
I've noticed that the gas cap on my allegro 2000 is getting very difficult to remove and replace. I Believe the the plastic cap has swelled or expanded to the point that it can't be removed with out the use of pliers. I thought that it might be the O ring that was causing the problem, so I removed the O ring and tried putting the gas cap on. No luck. It was still just as tight. If anyone has had this problem and knows a fix, please let me know. Thanks, Larry N4362C Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=437599#437599 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 24, 2015
Subject: Swelling gas cap
From: jlhazen <jlhazen(at)copper.net>
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Subject: Re: Swelling gas cap
From: "aerosiam" <pk@aero-siam.com>
Date: Jan 24, 2015
I also had a problem with the gas cap about 2 years after I bought the plane. It leaked and was difficult to remove. I replaced it with the non-lockable version from the factory. It's been ok for 6 years. I have always used 95 octane for the 100hp engine. Does anyone use ethanol and has it caused any problems to the lining of the fuel tank of any other fuel parts? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=437604#437604 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: brad@vision-technology.com
Date: Jan 25, 2015
Subject: Re: Swelling gas cap
Is the cap tension adjustable?. I seem to recall Thom Riddle, the previou s owner of my plane, saying it was and that it was always a trade-off bet ween having it tight enough to seal, yet loose enough to get it on & off. Brad Kramer N221FA -----Original Message----- From: ledson [mailto:Larryedson(at)ymail.com] Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2015 09:45 PM Subject: Allegro-List: Swelling gas cap p on my allegro 2000 is getting very difficult to remove and replace. I B elieve the the plastic cap has swelled or expanded to the point that it c an't be removed with out the use of pliers. I thought that it might be th e O ring that was causing the problem, so I removed the O ring and tried putting the gas cap on. No luck. It was still just as tight. If anyone ha s had this problem and knows a fix, please let me know. Thanks,LarryN4362 CRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p= ===== ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Swelling gas cap
From: "ledson" <Larryedson(at)ymail.com>
Date: Jan 25, 2015
I've been using auto gas with ethanol since I've owned the airplane and the PO only used auto gas. Yes, the gas cap can be adjusted using a small nut inside the cap. But I know that isn't the problem. I may consider buying a new cap from Aircraft Spruce. I was hoping that there may be a solution to the problem that doesn't involve buying a new cap. Thanks, Larry N4362C Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=437627#437627 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Hugh McKay" <hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Swelling gas cap
Date: Jan 25, 2015
The only problem I have had with my Allegro 2000 gas cap was that it began to leak gas from the key slot (it was a lockable gas cap). I replaced it with a cap from Lockwood Aviation that had no key/lock. Problem solved. No more leaking of fuel. My Allegro 2000 is almost eight years old (678 hours on the Rotax 80 hp 912UL engine). I have had no problem with the Gas cap being too tight. I use only 93 Octane Ethanol free gas. Hugh G. McKay III, P.E. Senior Consultant Worldwide Engineering Inc. 4090 North NC Hwy. 16 Denver, NC 28037 Ph. 704-661-8271 Fax 704-483-5466 email hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net http://www.wwegeo.com From: brad@vision-technology.com Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 9:08 AM Subject: Re: Allegro-List: Swelling gas cap Is the cap tension adjustable?. I seem to recall Thom Riddle, the previous owner of my plane, saying it was and that it was always a trade-off between having it tight enough to seal, yet loose enough to get it on & off. Brad Kramer N221FA -----Original Message----- From: ledson [mailto:Larryedson(at)ymail.com] Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2015 09:45 PM To: allegro-list(at)matronics.com Subject: Allegro-List: Swelling gas cap cap on my allegro 2000 is getting very difficult to remove and replace. I Believe the the plastic cap has swelled or expanded to the point that it can't be removed with out the use of pliers. I thought that it might be the O ring that was causing the problem, so I removed the O ring and tried putting the gas cap on. No luck. It was still just as tight. If anyone has had this problem and knows a fix, please let me know. Thanks, Larry N4362C Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=437597#437597 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: dolii
From: "idunknow" <idunknow45(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Apr 12, 2015
I have a number of devices without a built-in 'off' switch that I would like to segregate and control with a single switch or relay. They are currently activated when the master is turned on...fuel gauges, altitude encoder, trim indicators, and other similar items. They are already separated to their own mini fuse block. Here's my question: Power the mini fuse block with a switch or with a switch controlling a relay...or don't bother? Works pretty well as is - just thinking that I should have full-power-available to crank the engine till it starts. Anyone out there fixed this and how? Or is it a non-problem - looking for complexity? Ralph Capen -------- dolii Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=440723#440723 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Battery Replacement
From: "ledson" <Larryedson(at)ymail.com>
Date: Apr 27, 2015
The battery in my 2006 Allegro 2000 is getting weak. Does anyone know What the recommended battery replacement is? Thanks, Larry Edson N4362C Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=441403#441403 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Hugh McKay" <hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Battery Replacement
Date: Apr 27, 2015
Larry, I don't know how your existing battery is set up, or what type terminals are on your existing battery. As you know the battery for the Allegro 2000 lays flat on the bottom floor behind the pilot seat. You need a sealed lead acid battery with at least 16Ahr capacity. I recommend a 20Ahr battery. Here is what I have used with good success. I use a PSH12180 NB battery made by Power Sonic. They make various configurations of sealed lead acid batteries. Go to their web site www.powersonic.com and look through the various configurations and find one the suits your set up. Just make sure you get one with at least 16 Ah capacity. If you have any more questions email me at hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net Hugh G. McKay III, P.E. Fellow, L.M. ASCE Senior Consultant Worldwide Engineering Inc. 4090 North NC Hwy. 16 Denver, NC 28037 Ph. 704-661-8271 Fax 704-483-5466 email hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net http://www.wwegeo.com -----Original Message----- From: ledson Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 6:26 PM Subject: Allegro-List: Battery Replacement The battery in my 2006 Allegro 2000 is getting weak. Does anyone know What the recommended battery replacement is? Thanks, Larry Edson N4362C Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=441403#441403 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 05, 2015
Subject: Need instructor for currency check.
From: jlhazen <jlhazen(at)copper.net>
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Date: Jun 05, 2015
Subject: Instructor
From: jlhazen <jlhazen(at)copper.net>
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From: "Jerry Goldberg" <jkgcpa(at)ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Instructor
Date: Jun 06, 2015
Where are you located? Pat Brown at Houston SW knows the Allegro. Jerry Goldberg N44456 Covey Trails (X09) From: owner-allegro-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-allegro-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of jlhazen Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 4:34 PM Subject: Allegro-List: Instructor ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 06, 2015
Subject: Instructor
From: jlhazen <jlhazen(at)copper.net>
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Subject: Gascolator
From: "ledson" <Larryedson(at)ymail.com>
Date: Jun 09, 2015
Does anyone know the size of the gascolator O ring on the Allegro 2000? Mine has started to leak. Thanks, Larry Edson N4362C Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=443322#443322 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Gascolator
From: "ledson" <Larryedson(at)ymail.com>
Date: Jun 10, 2015
I spoke with Doug Hempstead at AllegroLSA. He is going to make me a couple of the required O rings for the gascolator bowl. Thanks Everyone. Larry Edson N4362C Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=443359#443359 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Jerry Goldberg" <jkgcpa(at)ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Gascolator
Date: Jun 10, 2015
Doug at Allegro LSA has acquired new stocks of parts for the Allegro models. You can contact him on the cc email or I think they joined the Allegro list. He would know. If you find out post it. Also how would you turn the gas off to change it or the fuel filter. Thanks, Jerry -----Original Message----- From: owner-allegro-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-allegro-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of ledson Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 9:05 PM Subject: Allegro-List: Gascolator Does anyone know the size of the gascolator O ring on the Allegro 2000? Mine has started to leak. Thanks, Larry Edson N4362C Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=443322#443322 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Jerry Goldberg" <jkgcpa(at)ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Gascolator
Date: Jun 10, 2015
Larry, did Doug give you any instructions on how to clean or change the fuel filter? Thanks, Jerry -----Original Message----- From: owner-allegro-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-allegro-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of ledson Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 2:19 PM Subject: Allegro-List: Re: Gascolator I spoke with Doug Hempstead at AllegroLSA. He is going to make me a couple of the required O rings for the gascolator bowl. Thanks Everyone. Larry Edson N4362C Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=443359#443359 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Doug Hempstead" <doug(at)allegrolsa.com>
Subject: Re: Gascolator
Date: Jun 10, 2015
Jerry, To clean the fuel filter, simply remove from gascalator (I am sorry, but the earlier Fantasy Air Allegro do NOT have a fuel shut off before the gascolator, you must either drain fuel or put something under it to catch the fuel, it will only be gravity fed and can be stopped by a small plug {such as a small bolt}). Clean the filter with grease cutting soap and water, blow out and let it dry completely, then re-install. We do carry filters for the older Allegro if needed. Thanks, Doug Douglas Hempstead LSA America, Inc. 231 US Hwy 158 East Littleton, NC 27850 252-586-1200 - office 252-586-1203 - fax www.allegrolsa.com doug(at)allegrolsa.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-allegro-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-allegro-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Goldberg Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 4:22 PM Subject: RE: Allegro-List: Re: Gascolator --> Larry, did Doug give you any instructions on how to clean or change the fuel filter? Thanks, Jerry -----Original Message----- From: owner-allegro-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-allegro-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of ledson Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 2:19 PM Subject: Allegro-List: Re: Gascolator I spoke with Doug Hempstead at AllegroLSA. He is going to make me a couple of the required O rings for the gascolator bowl. Thanks Everyone. Larry Edson N4362C Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=443359#443359 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Gascolator
From: "ledson" <Larryedson(at)ymail.com>
Date: Jun 10, 2015
I spoke with Doug Hempstead at AllegroLSA. He is going to make me a couple of the required O rings for the gascolator bowl. Thanks Everyone. Larry Edson N4362C Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=443371#443371 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Hugh McKay" <hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Allegro 2000 Main Gear
Date: Jul 09, 2015
I have an Allegro 2000 E-LSA with 750 take offs and landings. The main gear legs have a vertical strip of white tape along the leading and trailing edges of both right and left legs. The tape on the leading edge of my right gear leg has a 5 inch long =9Csplit=9D exactly along the center of the leg thickness. My question is this. Are these gear legs each made up of two pieces of =9Cfiberglass=9D that have been laminated together, or are they one piece of solid =9Cfiberglass=9D? Could this =9Csplit=9Din the tape indicate that I am developing a structural failure of the main gear leg, or is it just a result of the flexing of the gear on landing? Has anyone seen this before in the main gear legs? If so, do you know what caused it? Hugh G. McKay III Denver, NC 28037 Allegro 2000 E-LSA N661WW Rotax 912 UL 760 Hours TSN Ph. 704-661-8271 Fax 704-483-5466 email hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Doug Hempstead" <doug(at)allegrolsa.com>
Subject: Allegro 2000 Main Gear
Date: Jul 10, 2015
Hugh, Yes, we have seen this before. The gear legs are made up of two pieces. The gear leg is designed to split rather than breaking. This helps prevent much more damage to the aircraft which would result from the gear leg breaking and having the wing hit the ground and a possible prop strike as well. The split is usually a result of =9Chard=9D landings. (This is NOT a reflection on the pilot, as I am saying =9Cusually=9D). Again, the gear splits to also insure no damage to the fuselage. The gear is purposely built to give before the fuselage gives. This prevents damage to the fuselage which can be very expensive and timely to repair. The other result of the splitting gear leg is in most cases, the damage merely splits the leg and can still be flown (back to home base, or repair station.) Since you built your Allegro from a kit, you know that changing out a gear leg is a relatively simple process. If the Allegro is not leaning to the side with the damaged gear leg, this usually means slight damage to the leg and can still be flown, but should be monitored and hard landings avoided. Douglas Hempstead LSA America, Inc. 231 US Hwy 158 East Littleton, NC 27850 252-586-1200 =93 office 252-586-1203 =93 fax www.allegrolsa.com <http://www.allegrolsa.com> doug(at)allegrolsa.com From: owner-allegro-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-allegro-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hugh McKay Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 9:31 PM Subject: Allegro-List: Allegro 2000 Main Gear I have an Allegro 2000 E-LSA with 750 take offs and landings. The main gear legs have a vertical strip of white tape along the leading and trailing edges of both right and left legs. The tape on the leading edge of my right gear leg has a 5 inch long =9Csplit=9D exactly along the center of the leg thickness. My question is this. Are these gear legs each made up of two pieces of =9Cfiberglass=9D that have been laminated together, or are they one piece of solid =9Cfiberglass=9D? Could this =9Csplit=9Din the tape indicate that I am developing a structural failure of the main gear leg, or is it just a result of the flexing of the gear on landing? Has anyone seen this before in the main gear legs? If so, do you know what caused it? Hugh G. McKay III Denver, NC 28037 Allegro 2000 E-LSA N661WW Rotax 912 UL 760 Hours TSN Ph. 704-661-8271 Fax 704-483-5466 email hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Hugh McKay" <hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Allegro 2000 Main Gear
Date: Jul 10, 2015
Doug, Thanks for the explanation. All of what you said makes good sense. I have checked the split more carefully today and have found that the depth of the split is approx.. 1.0 mm, but the surface width separation is around 2.0 mm (just enough to split the tape). There is no evidence of a split on the trailing edge of the gear leg. As noted in my email this airplane has almost 800 landings, most of which have been on unpaved turf runways. There is no leaning of the aircraft to the side. It rests level. I am planning to clean up the split area, re-tape it, and monitor it after each flight. What is your opinion of the severity of this particular split? If it quickly progresses in length, I will be calling you for a new right gear leg. Send me an email directly to hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net giving me a price for a new right gear leg. Is the new gear leg exactly replaceable with the wheel assembly without any modification? Hugh G. McKay III, P.E. Fellow, L.M. ASCE Senior Consultant Worldwide Engineering Inc. 4090 North NC Hwy. 16 Denver, NC 28037 Ph. 704-661-8271 Fax 704-483-5466 email hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net http://www.wwegeo.com From: Doug Hempstead Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 9:50 AM Subject: RE: Allegro-List: Allegro 2000 Main Gear Hugh, Yes, we have seen this before.=C2 The gear legs are made up of two pieces.=C2 The gear leg is designed to split rather than breaking.=C2 This helps prevent much more damage to the aircraft which would result from the gear leg breaking and having the wing hit the ground and a possible prop strike as well.=C2 The split is usually a result of =9Chard=9D landings.=C2 (This is NOT a reflection on the pilot, as I am saying =9Cusually=9D).=C2 Again, the gear splits to also insure no damage to the fuselage.=C2 The gear is purposely built to give before the fuselage gives.=C2 This prevents damage to the fuselage which can be very expensive and timely to repair. The other result of the splitting gear leg is in most cases, the damage merely splits the leg and can still be flown (back to home base, or repair station.)=C2 Since you built your Allegro from a kit, you know that changing out a gear leg is a relatively simple process.=C2 =C2 If the Allegro is not leaning to the side with the damaged gear leg, this usually means slight damage to the leg and can still be flown, but should be monitored and hard landings avoided. Douglas Hempstead LSA America, Inc. 231 US Hwy 158 East Littleton, NC 27850 252-586-1200 =93 office 252-586-1203 =93 fax www.allegrolsa.com doug(at)allegrolsa.com From: owner-allegro-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-allegro-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hugh McKay Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 9:31 PM Subject: Allegro-List: Allegro 2000 Main Gear I have an Allegro 2000 E-LSA with 750 take offs and landings. The main gear legs have a vertical strip of white tape along the leading and trailing edges of both right and left legs. The tape on the leading edge of my right gear leg has a 5 inch long =9Csplit=9D exactly along the center of the leg thickness. My question is this. Are these gear legs each made up of two pieces of =9Cfiberglass=9D that have been laminated together, or are they one piece of solid =9Cfiberglass=9D? Could this =9Csplit=9Din the tape indicate that I am developing a structural failure of the main gear leg, or is it just a result of the flexing of the gear on landing? Has anyone seen this before in the main gear legs? If so, do you know what caused it? Hugh G. McKay III Denver, NC 28037 Allegro 2000 E-LSA N661WW Rotax 912 UL 760 Hours TSN Ph. 704-661-8271 Fax 704-483-5466 email hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net ________________________________________________________________________________
From: brad@vision-technology.com
Date: Jul 10, 2015
Subject: Re: Allegro 2000 Main Gear
Is that tape necessary? I'm just wondering if retaping it will make any a dvancement of the separation harder to visually detect. Best of luck. Brad Kramer Allegro 2000 N221FA Bismarck / Mandan ND -----Original Message----- From: Hugh McKay [mailto:hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net] Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 11:22 AM Subject: Re: Allegro-List: Allegro 2000 Main Gear Doug, Thanks for the explanation. All of what you said makes good sense. I have checked the split more carefully today and have found that the depth of the split is approx.. 1.0 mm, but the surface width separation is around 2.0 mm (just enough to split the tape). There is no evidence of a split o n the trailing edge of the gear leg. As noted in my email this airplane h as almost 800 landings, most of which have been on unpaved turf runways. There is no leaning of the aircraft to the side. It rests level. I am pla nning to clean up the split area, re-tape it, and monitor it after each f light. What is your opinion of the severity of this particular split? If it quickly progresses in length, I will be calling you for a new right gear leg. Send me an email directly to hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net giving me a price for a new right gear leg. Is the new gear leg exactly replaceable with the wheel assembly without any modification? Hugh G. McKay III, P.E. Fellow, L.M. ASCE Senior Consultant Worldwide Engineering Inc. 4090 North NC Hwy. 16 Denver, NC 28037 Ph. 704-661-8271 Fax 704-483-5466 email hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net http://www.wwegeo.com From:Doug Hempstead Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 9:50 AM To:allegro-list(at)matronics.com Subject: RE: Allegro-List: Allegro 2000 Main Gear Hugh, Yes, we have seen this before.=C2 The gear legs are made up of two pieces .=C2 The gear leg is designed to split rather than breaking.=C2 This help s prevent much more damage to the aircraft which would result from the ge ar leg breaking and having the wing hit the ground and a possible prop st rike as well.=C2 The split is usually a result of =9Chard? la ndings.=C2 (This is NOT a reflection on the pilot, as I am saying =9C usually?).=C2 Again, the gear splits to also insure no damage to th e fuselage.=C2 The gear is purposely built to give before the fuselage gi ves.=C2 This prevents damage to the fuselage which can be very expensive and timely to repair. The other result of the splitting gear leg is in mo st cases, the damage merely splits the leg and can still be flown (back t o home base, or repair station.)=C2 Since you built your Allegro from a k it, you know that changing out a gear leg is a relatively simple process. =C2 =C2 If the Allegro is not leaning to the side with the damaged gear l eg, this usually means slight damage to the leg and can still be flown, b ut should be monitored and hard landings avoided. Douglas Hempstead LSA America, Inc. 231 US Hwy 158 East Littleton, NC 27850 252-586-1200 =93 office 252-586-1203 =93 fax www.allegrolsa.com doug(at)allegrolsa.com From: owner-allegro-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-allegro-list- server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hugh McKay Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 9:31 PM Subject: Allegro-List: Allegro 2000 Main Gear I have an Allegro 2000 E-LSA with 750 take offs and landings. The main ge ar legs have a vertical strip of white tape along the leading and trailin g edges of both right and left legs. The tape on the leading edge of my r ight gear leg has a 5 inch long =9Csplit? exactly along the c enter of the leg thickness. My question is this. Are these gear legs each made up of two pieces of =9Cfiberglass? that have been lamin ated together, or are they one piece of solid =9Cfiberglass?? Could this =9Csplit?in the tape indicate that I am developin g a structural failure of the main gear leg, or is it just a result of th e flexing of the gear on landing? Has anyone seen this before in the main gear legs? If so, do you know what caused it? Hugh G. McKay III Denver, NC 28037 Allegro 2000 E-LSA N661WW Rotax 912 UL 760 Hours TSN Ph. 704-661-8271 Fax 704-483-5466 email hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Allegro-List">http://www.matr onics.com/Navigator?Allegro-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">htt p://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">h ttp://www.matronics.com/c = ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Doug Hempstead" <doug(at)allegrolsa.com>
Subject: Allegro 2000 Main Gear
Date: Jul 10, 2015
Brad, Good question. The tape is not necessary, but it adds to the cosmetics of the aircraft and CAN be an added benefit of seeing more damage early, as the tape will give and split when there is stress opening the gear leg. This may be easier to detect over just a visual inspection unless you have marked the gear with something that does not wear off. Either way it OK, I just find the tape easier to detect additional stress. Please note, the tape used is a vinyl tape, not electrical tape as it is too thick. Also a quick =9Ccongratulations=9D to you. As I am sure you know, you have the very first SLSA Allegro to come to the USA. Thanks, Doug Douglas Hempstead LSA America, Inc. 231 US Hwy 158 East Littleton, NC 27850 252-586-1200 =93 office 252-586-1203 =93 fax <http://www.allegrolsa.com> www.allegrolsa.com doug(at)allegrolsa.com From: owner-allegro-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-allegro-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of brad@vision-technology.com Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 2:12 PM Subject: Re: Allegro-List: Allegro 2000 Main Gear Is that tape necessary? I'm just wondering if retaping it will make any advancement of the separation harder to visually detect. Best of luck. Brad Kramer Allegro 2000 N221FA Bismarck / Mandan ND -----Original Message----- From: Hugh McKay [mailto:hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net] Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 11:22 AM Subject: Re: Allegro-List: Allegro 2000 Main Gear Doug, Thanks for the explanation. All of what you said makes good sense. I have checked the split more carefully today and have found that the depth of the split is approx.. 1.0 mm, but the surface width separation is around 2.0 mm (just enough to split the tape). There is no evidence of a split on the trailing edge of the gear leg. As noted in my email this airplane has almost 800 landings, most of which have been on unpaved turf runways. There is no leaning of the aircraft to the side. It rests level. I am planning to clean up the split area, re-tape it, and monitor it after each flight. What is your opinion of the severity of this particular split? If it quickly progresses in length, I will be calling you for a new right gear leg. Send me an email directly to hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net giving me a price for a new right gear leg. Is the new gear leg exactly replaceable with the wheel assembly without any modification? Hugh G. McKay III, P.E. Fellow, L.M. ASCE Senior Consultant Worldwide Engineering Inc. 4090 North NC Hwy. 16 Denver, NC 28037 Ph. 704-661-8271 Fax 704-483-5466 email hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net http://www.wwegeo.com From: Doug Hempstead <mailto:doug(at)allegrolsa.com> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 9:50 AM Subject: RE: Allegro-List: Allegro 2000 Main Gear Hugh, Yes, we have seen this before.=C3=82 The gear legs are made up of two pieces.=C3=82 The gear leg is designed to split rather than breaking.=C3=82 This helps prevent much more damage to the aircraft which would result from the gear leg breaking and having the wing hit the ground and a possible prop strike as well.=C3=82 The split is usually a result of =C3=A2=82=AC=C5=93hard=C3=A2=82=AC? landings.=C3=82 (This is NOT a reflection on the pilot, as I am saying =C3=A2=82=AC=C5=93usually=C3=A2=82=AC?).=C3=82 Again, the gear splits to also insure no damage to the fuselage.=C3=82 The gear is purposely built to give before the fuselage gives.=C3=82 This prevents damage to the fuselage which can be very expensive and timely to repair. The other result of the splitting gear leg is in most cases, the damage merely splits the leg and can still be flown (back to home base, or repair station.)=C3=82 Since you built your Allegro from a kit, you know that changing out a gear leg is a relatively simple process.=C3=82 =C3=82 If the Allegro is not leaning to the side with the damaged gear leg, this usually means slight damage to the leg and can still be flown, but should be monitored and hard landings avoided. Douglas Hempstead LSA America, Inc. 231 US Hwy 158 East Littleton, NC 27850 252-586-1200 =C3=A2=82=AC=9C office 252-586-1203 =C3=A2=82=AC=9C fax www.allegrolsa.com <http://www.allegrolsa.com> doug(at)allegrolsa.com From: owner-allegro-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-allegro-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hugh McKay Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 9:31 PM Subject: Allegro-List: Allegro 2000 Main Gear I have an Allegro 2000 E-LSA with 750 take offs and landings. The main gear legs have a vertical strip of white tape along the leading and trailing edges of both right and left legs. The tape on the leading edge of my right gear leg has a 5 inch long =C3=A2=82=AC=C5=93split=C3=A2=82=AC? exactly along the center of the leg thickness. My question is this. Are these gear legs each made up of two pieces of =C3=A2=82=AC=C5=93fiberglass=C3=A2=82=AC? that have been laminated together, or are they one piece of solid =C3=A2=82=AC=C5=93fiberglass=C3=A2=82=AC?? Could this =C3=A2=82=AC=C5=93split=C3=A2=82=AC?in the tape indicate that I am developing a structural failure of the main gear leg, or is it just a result of the flexing of the gear on landing? Has anyone seen this before in the main gear legs? If so, do you know what caused it? Hugh G. McKay III Denver, NC 28037 Allegro 2000 E-LSA N661WW Rotax 912 UL 760 Hours TSN Ph. 704-661-8271 Fax 704-483-5466 email hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Allegro-List">http://www.matro nics.com/Navigator?Allegro-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c " target="_blank" mce_href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Allegro-List">http://www.m atronics.com/Navigator?Allegro-List mce_href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com "_blank" mce_href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.c om/contribution ________________________________________________________________________________
From: brad@vision-technology.com
Date: Jul 10, 2015
Subject: Re: Allegro 2000 Main Gear
Yep, we're still flying #1... N221FA. It has about 940 hours on it, so fa r. It is my 6th airplane and the only one I've kept for more than 3 years , which says something about the plane. I had hoped to bring it to OSH th is year, but my work schedule dictates that I'm going commercial instead, rather than risking any weather delays for the 700 mile trip home. (it o nce took me 3 days in a Hatz biplane) ...Brad -----Original Message----- From: Doug Hempstead [mailto:doug(at)allegrolsa.com] Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 01:35 PM Subject: RE: Allegro-List: Allegro 2000 Main Gear Brad, Good question. The tape is not necessary, but it adds to the cosmetics of the aircraft and CAN be an added benefit of seeing more damage early, as the tape will give and split when there is stress opening the gear leg. This may be easier to detect over just a visual inspection unless you hav e marked the gear with something that does not wear off. Either way it OK , I just find the tape easier to detect additional stress. Please note, t he tape used is a vinyl tape, not electrical tape as it is too thick. Als o a quick =9Ccongratulations=9D to you. As I am sure you know , you have the very first SLSA Allegro to come to the USA. Thanks, Doug Douglas Hempstead LSA America, Inc. 231 US Hwy 158 East Littleton, NC 27850 252-586-1200 =93 office 252-586-1203 =93 fax www.allegrolsa.com doug(at)allegrolsa.com From: owner-allegro-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-allegro-list- server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of brad(at)vision-technology.com Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 2:12 PM Subject: Re: Allegro-List: Allegro 2000 Main Gear Is that tape necessary? I'm just wondering if retaping it will make any a dvancement of the separation harder to visually detect. Best of luck. Brad Kramer Allegro 2000 N221FA Bismarck / Mandan ND -----Original Message----- From: Hugh McKay [mailto:hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net] Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 11:22 AM To:allegro-list(at)matronics.com Subject: Re: Allegro-List: Allegro 2000 Main Gear <<<<<http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Allegro-List< nics.com<<<<http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thanks for the explanation. All of what you said makes good sense. I have checked the split more carefully today and have found that the depth of the split is approx.. 1.0 mm, but the surface width separation is around 2.0 mm (just enough to split the tape). There is no evidence of a split o n the trailing edge of the gear leg. As noted in my email this airplane h as almost 800 landings, most of which have been on unpaved turf runways. There is no leaning of the aircraft to the side. It rests level. I am pla nning to clean up the split area, re-tape it, and monitor it after each f light. What is your opinion of the severity of this particular split? If it quickly progresses in length, I will be calling you for a new right gear leg. Send me an email directly to hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net giving me a price for a new right gear leg. Is the new gear leg exactly replaceable with the wheel assembly without any modification? Hugh G. McKay III, P.E. Fellow, L.M. ASCE Senior Consultant Worldwide Engineering Inc. 4090 North NC Hwy. 16 Denver, NC 28037 Ph. 704-661-8271 Fax 704-483-5466 email hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net http://www.wwegeo.com/ From:Doug Hempstead Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 9:50 AM To:allegro-list(at)matronics.com Subject: RE: Allegro-List: Allegro 2000 Main Gear Hugh, Yes, we have seen this before.=C3=82 The gear legs are made up of two pie ces.=C3=82 The gear leg is designed to split rather than breaking.=C3=82 This helps prevent much more damage to the aircraft which would result fr om the gear leg breaking and having the wing hit the ground and a possibl e prop strike as well.=C3=82 The split is usually a result of =C3=A2=82 =AC=C5=93hard=C3=A2=82=AC? landings.=C3=82 (This is NOT a reflection o n the pilot, as I am saying =C3=A2=82=AC=C5=93usually=C3=A2=82=AC?) .=C3=82 Again, the gear splits to also insure no damage to the fuselage.=C3 =82 The gear is purposely built to give before the fuselage gives.=C3=82 This prevents damage to the fuselage which can be very expensive and time ly to repair. The other result of the splitting gear leg is in most cases , the damage merely splits the leg and can still be flown (back to home b ase, or repair station.)=C3=82 Since you built your Allegro from a kit, y ou know that changing out a gear leg is a relatively simple process.=C3=82 =C3=82 If the Allegro is not leaning to the side with the damaged gear l eg, this usually means slight damage to the leg and can still be flown, b ut should be monitored and hard landings avoided. Douglas Hempstead LSA America, Inc. 231 US Hwy 158 East Littleton, NC 27850 252-586-1200 =C3=A2=82=AC=9C office 252-586-1203 =C3=A2=82=AC=9C fax http://www.allegrolsa.com/ doug(at)allegrolsa.com From:owner-allegro-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-allegro-list-s erver(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hugh McKay Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 9:31 PM To:allegro-list(at)matronics.com Subject: Allegro-List: Allegro 2000 Main Gear I have an Allegro 2000 E-LSA with 750 take offs and landings. The main ge ar legs have a vertical strip of white tape along the leading and trailin g edges of both right and left legs. The tape on the leading edge of my r ight gear leg has a 5 inch long =C3=A2=82=AC=C5=93split=C3=A2=82=AC ? exactly along the center of the leg thickness. My question is this. Are these gear legs each made up of two pieces of =C3=A2=82=AC=C5=93fiber glass=C3=A2=82=AC? that have been laminated together, or are they one piece of solid =C3=A2=82=AC=C5=93fiberglass=C3=A2=82=AC?? Could thi s =C3=A2=82=AC=C5=93split=C3=A2=82=AC?in the tape indicate that I a m developing a structural failure of the main gear leg, or is it just a r esult of the flexing of the gear on landing? Has anyone seen this before in the main gear legs? If so, do you know what caused it? Hugh G. McKay III Denver, NC 28037 Allegro 2000 E-LSA N661WW Rotax 912 UL 760 Hours TSN Ph. 704-661-8271 Fax 704-483-5466 email hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Allegro-List">http://www.matr onics.com/Navigator?Allegro-List href="http://forums.matronics.com/">ht tp://forums.matronics.com/ href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution" >http://www.matronics.com/c " target="_blank" mce_href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Allegr o-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Allegro-Listmce_href="http:/ /forums.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com/"_blank" mce_href=" http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribut ion = ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Swelling gas cap
From: "N456TS" <bottleworksnet(at)gmail.com>
Date: Aug 16, 2015
Hello. I also had an issue with the gas cap being hard to turn. For me, there was an interference fit where the hollow circular section of the back half mates with the front half. It required sanding down the OD of the circular section and opening up the grove that it mates with. Bradley Pearce N456TS LSRM-A -------- N456TS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446045#446045 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: FD Solution for Swelling Gas Cap
From: "N456TS" <bottleworksnet(at)gmail.com>
Date: Aug 20, 2015
Hello. It turns out, Flight Design uses the same gas caps as the Allegro. They also have issues with the gas caps swelling. I've attached the fleet wide LOA that Flight Design issued to resolve the gas cap issue. Bradley Pearce N456TS LSRM-A -------- N456TS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446200#446200 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/08_10_27_fd_manufacturer_approval_for_ctls_fuel_cap_118.pdf ________________________________________________________________________________
From: brad@vision-technology.com
Date: Aug 20, 2015
Subject: Re: FD Solution for Swelling Gas Cap
Thanks for the research and info. My gas cap is fine (just a little leaky when full), but this is good to k now for future reference. Brad Kramer N221FA -----Original Message----- From: N456TS [mailto:bottleworksnet(at)gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 01:55 PM Subject: Allegro-List: FD Solution for Swelling Gas Cap esign uses the same gas caps as the Allegro. They also have issues with t he gas caps swelling. I've attached the fleet wide LOA that Flight Design issued to resolve the gas cap issue. Bradley PearceN456TSLSRM-A--------N 456TSRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.ph p?p=446200#446200Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/08_10_ ================== ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Swelling gas cap
From: "ledson" <Larryedson(at)ymail.com>
Date: Aug 20, 2015
Mine was not a problem with turning the lever to unlock it, mine was with The circumference of the gas cap. I replace the cap with one from Aircraft Spruce and there was not problem after that. I also found a source for ethanol free high test gasoline and have been using that exclusively since. The old cap was placed on the shelf in my hanger for the last 6 months and last week I tried putting it back on the airplane. It fit like a new one and was no problem to remove and install. This shows me that there is certainly a problem with some plastic parts being in contact with ethanol. Thanks for everyone's help! Larry N4362C Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446204#446204 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Lower cost Skyview WiFi module
From: "N456TS" <bottleworksnet(at)gmail.com>
Date: Aug 29, 2015
If anyone has been considering adding the WiFi setup to their Skyview, you don't need to buy the WiFi sticks from Dynon. I just tested a "Edimax EW-7811Un" USB WiFi stick in one of my Skyviews. It recognized it and was happy. The Edimax is only $10. The Dynon branded stick is $30. ....and you have to have one for each screen. So, I wasn't interested in spending $60, but I'm happy to spend $20. -------- N456TS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446545#446545 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Fuselage Composite Failure/Plane Total Loss
From: "N456TS" <bottleworksnet(at)gmail.com>
Date: Sep 17, 2015
So, I might be the 4th Allegro 2007 to have a fuel tank breach. I've attached a photo. It was leased for Flight training at B-Bar-D. -------- N456TS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=447178#447178 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_4856_116.jpg ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Fuselage Composite Failure/Plane Total Loss
From: "N456TS" <bottleworksnet(at)gmail.com>
Date: Oct 10, 2015
Composit Airplanes says that unless it becomes soft, there is nothing to worry about. So, that's good, but if it ever becomes soft, it sounds like it would already be past the point of repair? I don't know. -------- N456TS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=447806#447806 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life,
From: "atra" <zamibaeii2332(at)gmail.com>
Date: Oct 29, 2015
Practical Explanation ( For Example ) :- `1st of all can you tell me every single seconds detail from that time when you born ?? ( i need every seconds detail ?? that what- what you have thought and done on every single second ) can you tell me every single detail of your `1 cheapest Minute Or your whole hour, day, week, month, year or your whole life ?? if you are not able to tell me about this life then what proof do you have that you didn't forget your past ? and that you will not forget this present life in the future ? that is Fact that Supreme Lord Krishna exists but we posses no such intelligence to understand him. there is also next life. and i already proved you that no scientist, no politician, no so-called intelligent man in this world is able to understand this Truth. cuz they are imagining. and you cannot imagine what is god, who is god, what is after life etc. _______ for example :Your father existed before your birth. you cannot say that before your birth your father don,t exists. So you have to ask from mother, "Who is my father?" And if she says, "This gentleman is your father," then it is all right. It is easy. Otherwise, if you makes research, "Who is my father?" go on searching for life; you'll never find your father. ( now maybe...maybe you will say that i will search my father from D.N.A, or i will prove it by photo's, or many other thing's which i will get from my mother and prove it that who is my Real father.{ So you have to believe the authority. who is that authority ? she is your mother. you cannot claim of any photo's, D.N.A or many other things without authority ( or ur mother ). if you will show D.N.A, photo's, and many other proofs from other women then your mother. then what is use of those proofs ??} ) same you have to follow real authority. "Whatever You have spoken, I accept it," Then there is no difficulty. And You are accepted by Devala, Narada, Vyasa, and You are speaking Yourself, and later on, all the acaryas have accepted. Then I'll follow. I'll have to follow great personalities. The same reason mother says, this gentleman is my father. That's all. Finish business. Where is the necessity of making research? All authorities accept Krsna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead. You accept it; then your searching after God is finished. Why should you waste your time? _______ all that is you need is to hear from authority ( same like mother ). and i heard this truth from authority " Srila Prabhupada " he is my spiritual master. im not talking these all things from my own. ___________ in this world no `1 can be Peace full. this is all along Fact. cuz we all are suffering in this world 4 Problems which are Disease, Old age, Death, and Birth after Birth. tell me are you really happy ?? you can,t be happy if you will ignore these 4 main problem. then still you will be Forced by Nature. ___________________ if you really want to be happy then follow these 6 Things which are No illicit sex, No gambling, No drugs ( No tea & coffee ), No meat-eating ( No onion & garlic's ) 5th thing is whatever you eat `1st offer it to Supreme Lord Krishna. ( if you know it what is Guru parama-para then offer them food not direct Supreme Lord Krishna ) and 6th " Main Thing " is you have to Chant " hare krishna hare krishna krishna krishna hare hare hare rama hare rama rama rama hare hare ". _______________________________ If your not able to follow these 4 things no illicit sex, no gambling, no drugs, no meat-eating then don,t worry but chanting of this holy name ( Hare Krishna Maha-Mantra ) is very-very and very important. Chant " hare krishna hare krishna krishna krishna hare hare hare rama hare rama rama rama hare hare " and be happy. if you still don,t believe on me then chant any other name for 5 Min's and chant this holy name for 5 Min's and you will see effect. i promise you it works And chanting at least 16 rounds ( each round of 108 beads ) of the Hare Krishna maha-mantra daily. ____________ Here is no Question of Holy Books quotes, Personal Experiences, Faith or Belief. i accept that Sometimes Faith is also Blind. Here is already Practical explanation which already proved that every`1 else in this world is nothing more then Busy Foolish and totally idiot. _________________________ Source(s): every `1 is already Blind in this world and if you will follow another Blind then you both will fall in hole. so try to follow that person who have Spiritual Eyes who can Guide you on Actual Right Path. ( my Authority & Guide is my Spiritual Master " Srila Prabhupada " ) _____________ if you want to see Actual Purpose of human life then see this link : ( www.asitis.com {Bookmark it }) read it complete. ( i promise only readers of this book that they { he/she } will get every single answer which they want to know about why im in this material world, who im, what will happen after this life, what is best thing which will make Human Life Perfect, and what is perfection of Human Life. ) purpose of human life is not to live like animal cuz every`1 at present time doing 4 thing which are sleeping, eating, sex & fear. purpose of human life is to become freed from Birth after birth, Old Age, Disease, and Death. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=448344#448344 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 01, 2015
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: PLEASE READ - Matronics Email List Fund Raiser During November!
Dear Listers, Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operation and upgrade of the Email List and Fourm Services at Matronics. It's solely through the Contributions of List members (you) that these Matronics Lists are possible. You have probably noticed that there are no banner ads or pop-up windows on any of the Matronics Lists or related web sites such as the Forums site http://forums.matronics.com , Wiki site http://wiki.matronics.com , or other related pages such as the List Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search , List Browse http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse , etc. This is because I believe in a List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely Airplanes and not about annoying advertisements. During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every couple of days reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. I ask for your patience and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages. The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all of the bills associated with running these lists. YOUR personal Contribution counts! This year we have a really HUGE and TERRIFIC line up of free gifts to go along with the various Contribution levels. In fact, there are over 30 different gifts to choose from - more than we've ever had before! There's something for everyone, to be sure. Most all of these gifts have been provided by some of the vary members and vendors that you'll find on the Matronics Lists and they have been either donated or provided at substantially discounted rates. This year, these generous members include: Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore http://www.buildersbooks.com These are very generous guys and I encourage you to visit their respective web sites. Each one offers a unique and excellent aviation-related product line. I would like publicly to thank Andy, Bob, Corbin, George, and Jon their generous support of the Lists again this year!! Please make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods including using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. All three methods afford you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying Contribution amount!! To make your Contribution, please visit the secure web site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral support over the years! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator RV-4/RV-6/RV-8 Builder/Rebuilder/Pilot ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 04, 2015
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists
Dear Listers, There is no advertising income to support the Matronics Email Lists and Forums. The operation is supported 100% by your personal Contributions during the November Fund Raiser. Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution too! You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you in advance for your generous support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 05, 2015
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution
Today! Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Please take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors (LOC)! As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems at least as valuable a building / entertainment tool as your typical magazine subscription! Assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 07, 2015
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists...
Dear Listers, Just a reminder that November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these great List services!! Pick up a really nice free gift with your qualifying Contribution too! The Contribution Site is fast and easy: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94551-0347 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 09, 2015
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: A List Contribution - It's Your Personal Squelch Button...
There is an automatic "squelch button" of sorts for the Fund Raiser messages. Here's how it works... As soon as a List member makes a Contribution through the Matronics Fund Raiser web site, their email address is automatically added to this year's Contributor List and they instantly cease to receive further Fund Raiser messages for the rest of the month! Its just that simple! :-) I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware and software that are required to run a List Site such as this one. It also goes to pay for the commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the huge electric bill to keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered on. I run all of the Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which allows me to control and monitor every aspect of the system for the utmost in reliably and performance. Your personal Contribution matters because, when combined with other Listers such as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up and running. I accept exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand the pop-up ads and all other commercials that are so prevalent on the Internet these days and I particularly don't want to have it on my Email List sites. If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!! http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator [Note that there are certain circumstances where you might still see a Contribution related message. For example, if someone replies to one of the messages, when using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum. The system keys on the given email address and since most of these are anonymous public access methods, there is no simple way to filter them.] ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 11, 2015
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: [PLEASE READ] Why I Have A Fund Raiser...
Since the beginning, the Matronics List and Forum experience has been free from advertising. I have been approached by fair number of vendors wanting to tap into the large volume of activity across the various lists hosted here, but have always flatly refused. Everywhere you go on the Internet these days, a user is pummeled with flashing banners and videos and ads for crap that they don't want. Yahoo, Google and that ilk are not "free". The user must constantly endure their barrage of commercialism thrust into their face at an ever increasing rate. Enough is enough, and the Lists at Matronics choose not to succumb to that. That being said, running a service of this size is not "free". It costs a lot of money to maintain the hardware, pay for the electricity, air conditioning, maintenance contracts, etc, etc. etc. I choose to hold a PBS-like fund raiser each year during the month of November where I simply send out a short email every other day asking the members to make a small contribution to support the operation. That being said, that contribution is completely voluntary and non-compulsory. Many members choose not to contribute and that's fine. However, a very modest percentage of the members do choose to make a contribution and it is that financial support that keeps the Lists running. And that's it. To my way of thinking, it is a much more pleasant way of maintaining the Lists and Forums. The other 11 months of the year, you don't see a single advertisement or request for support. That's refreshing and that is a List and Forum that I want to belong to. I think other people feel the same way. Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support these Lists? http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Admin. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 13, 2015
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published
in December! Dear Listers, The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 15, 2015
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Reminder
Dear Listers, A quick reminder that November is the annual Matronics List Fund Raiser. The Lists are 100% member supported and all of the operational costs are covered solely through your Contributions during this time of the year. *Your* personal Contribution makes a difference and keeps all of the Matronics Email Lists and Forums completely ad-free. Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running for another great year! Use a credit card or your PayPal account here: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by sending a personal check to: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 16, 2015
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: List Contribution - Value of the List...
If you look forward to checking your List email everyday (and a lot of you have written to say that you do!), then you're probably getting at least $20 or $30 worth of Entertainment from the Lists each year. You'd pay twice that for a subscription to some magazine or even a dinner out. Isn't the List worth at least that much to you? Wouldn't it be great if you could pay that amount and get a well-managed media source free of advertising, SPAM, and viruses? Come to think of it, you do... :-) Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support these Lists? http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA I want to say THANK YOU to everyone that has made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser!! These Lists are made possible exclusively through YOUR generosity!! Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Admin. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Hugh McKay" <hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Throttle Operation
Date: Nov 17, 2015
I have an Allegro 2000 using a Rotax 912 UL engine with 725 hours operation. I am now finding that while flying the airplane the throttle lever return springs (i.e. the springs that are connected to the throttle lever on the carburetors on the engine is pulling my throttle towards the open position. In other words I have to constantly hold the throttle control in the cockpit to keep it from migrating towards the full open position. I understand why there is a spring on the carbs. It is to pull the carbs to full open position in case of a throttle cable break. But in my case, if I am flying and take my hand off the Allegro cockpit throttle control, the springs on both carbs will pull the throttle further in the open position. I have never had this problem before. It appears that after 700+ hours of operation there is not enough frictional resistance in the throttle cable sheaths to hold the cable in position, or there is not enough frictional resistance in the mechanical throttle arrangement on the Allegro 2000 to hold a set throttle position. Has any one had this problem with the Allegro 2000, 912 UL engine arrangement? Comments and suggestions would be appreciated. Hugh G. McKay III, P.E. Fellow, L.M. ASCE Senior Consultant Worldwide Engineering Inc. 4090 North NC Hwy. 16 Denver, NC 28037 Allegro 2000, Rotax 912 UL Engine, 725 hours Ph. 704-661-8271 Fax 704-483-5466 email hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net http://www.wwegeo.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: brad@vision-technology.com
Date: Nov 17, 2015
Subject: Re: Throttle Operation
Hi Hugh, On the rod that connects the throttle handles to each other there is a ny lon bushing (between the seats). The metal cap that holds that bushing do wn may be loose or the bushing is cracked. (mine is cracked and I haven't searched for a replacement yet, but I was able to get plenty of friction by just tightening the bolts a bit). Brad Kramer N221FA - Mandan ND -----Original Message----- From: Hugh McKay [mailto:hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 02:34 PM Subject: Allegro-List: Throttle Operation I have an Allegro 2000 using a Rotax 912 UL engine with 725 hours operati on. I am now finding that while flying the airplane the throttle lever re turn springs (i.e. the springs that are connected to the throttle lever o n the carburetors on the engine is pulling my throttle towards the open p osition. In other words I have to constantly hold the throttle control in the cockpit to keep it from migrating towards the full open position. I understand why there is a spring on the carbs. It is to pull the carbs to full open position in case of a throttle cable break. But in my case, if I am flying and take my hand off the Allegro cockpit throttle control, t he springs on both carbs will pull the throttle further in the open posit ion. I have never had this problem before. It appears that after 700+ hours of operation there is not enough frictional resistance in the throttle cabl e sheaths to hold the cable in position, or there is not enough frictiona l resistance in the mechanical throttle arrangement on the Allegro 2000 t o hold a set throttle position. Has any one had this problem with the All egro 2000, 912 UL engine arrangement? Comments and suggestions would be a ppreciated. Hugh G. McKay III, P.E. Fellow, L.M. ASCE Senior Consultant Worldwide Engineering Inc. 4090 North NC Hwy. 16 Denver, NC 28037 Allegro 2000, Rotax 912 UL Engine, 725 hours Ph. 704-661-8271 Fax 704-483-5466 email hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net http://www.wwegeo.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Hugh McKay" <hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Throttle Operation
Date: Nov 17, 2015
Thanks Brad. I will check this bushing to see if that is the problem. Hugh G. McKay III, P.E. Fellow, L.M. ASCE Senior Consultant Worldwide Engineering Inc. 4090 North NC Hwy. 16 Denver, NC 28037 Ph. 704-661-8271 Fax 704-483-5466 email hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net http://www.wwegeo.com From: brad@vision-technology.com Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 3:40 PM Subject: Re: Allegro-List: Throttle Operation Hi Hugh, On the rod that connects the throttle handles to each other there is a nylon bushing (between the seats). The metal cap that holds that bushing down may be loose or the bushing is cracked. (mine is cracked and I haven't searched for a replacement yet, but I was able to get plenty of friction by just tightening the bolts a bit). Brad Kramer N221FA - Mandan ND -----Original Message----- From: Hugh McKay [mailto:hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 02:34 PM To: allegro-list(at)matronics.com Subject: Allegro-List: Throttle Operation I have an Allegro 2000 using a Rotax 912 UL engine with 725 hours operation. I am now finding that while flying the airplane the throttle lever return springs (i.e. the springs that are connected to the throttle lever on the carburetors on the engine is pulling my throttle towards the open position. In other words I have to constantly hold the throttle control in the cockpit to keep it from migrating towards the full open position. I understand why there is a spring on the carbs. It is to pull the carbs to full open position in case of a throttle cable break. But in my case, if I am flying and take my hand off the Allegro cockpit throttle control, the springs on both carbs will pull the throttle further in the open position. I have never had this problem before. It appears that after 700+ hours of operation there is not enough frictional resistance in the throttle cable sheaths to hold the cable in position, or there is not enough frictional resistance in the mechanical throttle arrangement on the Allegro 2000 to hold a set throttle position. Has any one had this problem with the Allegro 2000, 912 UL engine arrangement? Comments and suggestions would be appreciated. Hugh G. McKay III, P.E. Fellow, L.M. ASCE Senior Consultant Worldwide Engineering Inc. 4090 North NC Hwy. 16 Denver, NC 28037 Allegro 2000, Rotax 912 UL Engine, 725 hours Ph. 704-661-8271 Fax 704-483-5466 email hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net http://www.wwegeo.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: brad@vision-technology.com
Date: Nov 17, 2015
Subject: Re: Throttle Operation
If you happen to find a source / part # let me know. I'd think it is a co mmon part. thanks -----Original Message----- From: Hugh McKay [mailto:hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 03:06 PM Subject: Re: Allegro-List: Throttle Operation Thanks Brad. I will check this bushing to see if that is the problem. Hugh G. McKay III, P.E. Fellow, L.M. ASCE Senior Consultant Worldwide Engineering Inc. 4090 North NC Hwy. 16 Denver, NC 28037 Ph. 704-661-8271 Fax 704-483-5466 email hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net http://www.wwegeo.com From:brad@vision-technology.com Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 3:40 PM To:allegro-list(at)matronics.com Subject: Re: Allegro-List: Throttle Operation Hi Hugh, On the rod that connects the throttle handles to each other there is a ny lon bushing (between the seats). The metal cap that holds that bushing do wn may be loose or the bushing is cracked. (mine is cracked and I haven't searched for a replacement yet, but I was able to get plenty of friction by just tightening the bolts a bit). Brad Kramer N221FA - Mandan ND -----Original Message----- From: Hugh McKay [mailto:hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 02:34 PM Subject: Allegro-List: Throttle Operation I have an Allegro 2000 using a Rotax 912 UL engine with 725 hours operati on. I am now finding that while flying the airplane the throttle lever re turn springs (i.e. the springs that are connected to the throttle lever o n the carburetors on the engine is pulling my throttle towards the open p osition. In other words I have to constantly hold the throttle control in the cockpit to keep it from migrating towards the full open position. I understand why there is a spring on the carbs. It is to pull the carbs to full open position in case of a throttle cable break. But in my case, if I am flying and take my hand off the Allegro cockpit throttle control, t he springs on both carbs will pull the throttle further in the open posit ion. I have never had this problem before. It appears that after 700+ hours of operation there is not enough frictional resistance in the throttle cabl e sheaths to hold the cable in position, or there is not enough frictiona l resistance in the mechanical throttle arrangement on the Allegro 2000 t o hold a set throttle position. Has any one had this problem with the All egro 2000, 912 UL engine arrangement? Comments and suggestions would be a ppreciated. Hugh G. McKay III, P.E. Fellow, L.M. ASCE Senior Consultant Worldwide Engineering Inc. 4090 North NC Hwy. 16 Denver, NC 28037 Allegro 2000, Rotax 912 UL Engine, 725 hours Ph. 704-661-8271 Fax 704-483-5466 email hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net http://www.wwegeo.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Hugh McKay" <hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Throttle Operation
Date: Nov 17, 2015
Will do. Hugh G. McKay III, P.E. Fellow, L.M. ASCE Senior Consultant Worldwide Engineering Inc. 4090 North NC Hwy. 16 Denver, NC 28037 Ph. 704-661-8271 Fax 704-483-5466 email hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net http://www.wwegeo.com From: brad@vision-technology.com Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 4:17 PM Subject: Re: Allegro-List: Throttle Operation If you happen to find a source / part # let me know. I'd think it is a common part. thanks -----Original Message----- From: Hugh McKay [mailto:hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 03:06 PM To: allegro-list(at)matronics.com Subject: Re: Allegro-List: Throttle Operation Thanks Brad. I will check this bushing to see if that is the problem. Hugh G. McKay III, P.E. Fellow, L.M. ASCE Senior Consultant Worldwide Engineering Inc. 4090 North NC Hwy. 16 Denver, NC 28037 Ph. 704-661-8271 Fax 704-483-5466 email hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net http://www.wwegeo.com From: brad@vision-technology.com Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 3:40 PM To: allegro-list(at)matronics.com Subject: Re: Allegro-List: Throttle Operation Hi Hugh, On the rod that connects the throttle handles to each other there is a nylon bushing (between the seats). The metal cap that holds that bushing down may be loose or the bushing is cracked. (mine is cracked and I haven't searched for a replacement yet, but I was able to get plenty of friction by just tightening the bolts a bit). Brad Kramer N221FA - Mandan ND -----Original Message----- From: Hugh McKay [mailto:hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 02:34 PM To: allegro-list(at)matronics.com Subject: Allegro-List: Throttle Operation I have an Allegro 2000 using a Rotax 912 UL engine with 725 hours operation. I am now finding that while flying the airplane the throttle lever return springs (i.e. the springs that are connected to the throttle lever on the carburetors on the engine is pulling my throttle towards the open position. In other words I have to constantly hold the throttle control in the cockpit to keep it from migrating towards the full open position. I understand why there is a spring on the carbs. It is to pull the carbs to full open position in case of a throttle cable break. But in my case, if I am flying and take my hand off the Allegro cockpit throttle control, the springs on both carbs will pull the throttle further in the open position. I have never had this problem before. It appears that after 700+ hours of operation there is not enough frictional resistance in the throttle cable sheaths to hold the cable in position, or there is not enough frictional resistance in the mechanical throttle arrangement on the Allegro 2000 to hold a set throttle position. Has any one had this problem with the Allegro 2000, 912 UL engine arrangement? Comments and suggestions would be appreciated. Hugh G. McKay III, P.E. Fellow, L.M. ASCE Senior Consultant Worldwide Engineering Inc. 4090 North NC Hwy. 16 Denver, NC 28037 Allegro 2000, Rotax 912 UL Engine, 725 hours Ph. 704-661-8271 Fax 704-483-5466 email hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net http://www.wwegeo.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Jerry Goldberg" <jkgcpa(at)ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Throttle Operation
Date: Nov 17, 2015
Hey Hugh, Is the part available from Doug at Allegro? Jerry Goldberg N44456 Covey Trails (X09) From: owner-allegro-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-allegro-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hugh McKay Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 5:59 PM Subject: Re: Allegro-List: Throttle Operation Will do. Hugh G. McKay III, P.E. Fellow, L.M. ASCE Senior Consultant Worldwide Engineering Inc. 4090 North NC Hwy. 16 Denver, NC 28037 Ph. 704-661-8271 Fax 704-483-5466 email hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net http://www.wwegeo.com From: brad@vision-technology.com <mailto:brad@vision-technology.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 4:17 PM Subject: Re: Allegro-List: Throttle Operation If you happen to find a source / part # let me know. I'd think it is a common part. thanks -----Original Message----- From: Hugh McKay [mailto:hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 03:06 PM Subject: Re: Allegro-List: Throttle Operation Thanks Brad. I will check this bushing to see if that is the problem. Hugh G. McKay III, P.E. Fellow, L.M. ASCE Senior Consultant Worldwide Engineering Inc. 4090 North NC Hwy. 16 Denver, NC 28037 Ph. 704-661-8271 Fax 704-483-5466 email hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net http://www.wwegeo.com From: brad@vision-technology.com <mailto:brad@vision-technology.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 3:40 PM Subject: Re: Allegro-List: Throttle Operation Hi Hugh, On the rod that connects the throttle handles to each other there is a nylon bushing (between the seats). The metal cap that holds that bushing down may be loose or the bushing is cracked. (mine is cracked and I haven't searched for a replacement yet, but I was able to get plenty of friction by just tightening the bolts a bit). Brad Kramer N221FA - Mandan ND -----Original Message----- From: Hugh McKay [mailto:hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 02:34 PM Subject: Allegro-List: Throttle Operation I have an Allegro 2000 using a Rotax 912 UL engine with 725 hours operation. I am now finding that while flying the airplane the throttle lever return springs (i.e. the springs that are connected to the throttle lever on the carburetors on the engine is pulling my throttle towards the open position. In other words I have to constantly hold the throttle control in the cockpit to keep it from migrating towards the full open position. I understand why there is a spring on the carbs. It is to pull the carbs to full open position in case of a throttle cable break. But in my case, if I am flying and take my hand off the Allegro cockpit throttle control, the springs on both carbs will pull the throttle further in the open position. I have never had this problem before. It appears that after 700+ hours of operation there is not enough frictional resistance in the throttle cable sheaths to hold the cable in position, or there is not enough frictional resistance in the mechanical throttle arrangement on the Allegro 2000 to hold a set throttle position. Has any one had this problem with the Allegro 2000, 912 UL engine arrangement? Comments and suggestions would be appreciated. Hugh G. McKay III, P.E. Fellow, L.M. ASCE Senior Consultant Worldwide Engineering Inc. 4090 North NC Hwy. 16 Denver, NC 28037 Allegro 2000, Rotax 912 UL Engine, 725 hours Ph. 704-661-8271 Fax 704-483-5466 email hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net http://www.wwegeo.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: doug(at)allegrolsa.com
Subject: Throttle Operation
Date: Nov 18, 2015
Jerry, Brad, and Hugh, Yes we do have the bushing available. However, I do not think it is needed =2E We have an Allegro at the flight school with over 5,000 hours and ONLY needed to occasionally tighten the friction bolts in the middle of the sea ts where the throttle rod goes through. We mill these to our specs here at the factory. If needed, they are $25.00 each plus shipping. Again, I do not think anything more than tightening the friction lock is needed. If yo u have questions, please feel free to call. Also, please feel free to put this on the Allegro list. Thank you, Doug Douglas Hempstead LSA America, Inc. 231 US Hwy 158 East Littleton, NC 27850 252-586-1200 www.allegrolsa.com --------- Original Message --------- Subject: RE: Allegro-List: Throttle Op eration From: "Jerry Goldberg" <jkgcpa(at)ix.netcom.com> Date: 11/17/15 7:35 pm Hey Hugh, Is the part available from Doug at Allegro? Jerry Goldberg N44456 Covey Trails (X09) From: owner-allegro-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-allegro-list -server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hugh McKay Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 5:59 PM Subject: Re: Allegro-List: Throttle Operation Will do. Hugh G. McKay III, P.E. Fellow, L.M. ASCE Senior Consultant Worldwide Engineering Inc. 4090 North NC Hwy. 16 Denver, NC 28037 Ph. 704-661-8271 Fax 704-483-5466 email hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net http://www.wwegeo.com From: brad@vision-technology.com Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 4:17 PM Subject: Re: Allegro-List: Throttle Operation If you happen to find a source / part # let me know. I'd think it is a co mmon part. thanks -----Original Message----- From: Hugh McKay [mailto:hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 03:06 PM Subject: Re: Allegro-List: Throttle Operation Thanks Brad. I will check this bushing to see if that is the problem =2E Hugh G. McKay III, P.E. Fellow, L.M. ASCE Senior Consultant Worldwide Engineering Inc. 4090 North NC Hwy. 16 Denver, NC 28037 Ph. 704-661-8271 Fax 704-483-5466 email hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net http://www.wwegeo.com From: brad@vision-technology.com Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 3:40 PM Subject: Re: Allegro-List: Throttle Operation Hi Hugh, On the rod that connects the throttle handles to each other there is a nyl on bushing (between the seats). The metal cap that holds that bushing down may be loose or the bushing is cracked. (mine is cracked and I haven't sea rched for a replacement yet, but I was able to get plenty of friction by ju st tightening the bolts a bit). Brad Kramer N221FA - Mandan ND -----Original Message----- From: Hugh McKay [mailto:hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 02:34 PM Subject: Allegro-List: Throttle Operation I have an Allegro 2000 using a Rotax 912 UL engine with 725 hours o peration. I am now finding that while flying the airplane the throttle leve r return springs (i.e. the springs that are connected to the throttle lever on the carburetors on the engine is pulling my throttle towards the open p osition. In other words I have to constantly hold the throttle control in t he cockpit to keep it from migrating towards the full open position. I unde rstand why there is a spring on the carbs. It is to pull the carbs to full open position in case of a throttle cable break. But in my case, if I am fl ying and take my hand off the Allegro cockpit throttle control, the springs on both carbs will pull the throttle further in the open position. I have never had this problem before. It appears that after 700+ hours of o peration there is not enough frictional resistance in the throttle cable sh eaths to hold the cable in position, or there is not enough frictional resi stance in the mechanical throttle arrangement on the Allegro 2000 to hold a set throttle position. Has any one had this problem with the Allegro 2000, 912 UL engine arrangement? Comments and suggestions would be appreciated =2E Hugh G. McKay III, P.E. Fellow, L.M. ASCE Senior Consultant Worldwide Engineering Inc. 4090 North NC Hwy. 16 Denver, NC 28037 Allegro 2000, Rotax 912 UL Engine, 725 hours Ph. 704-661-8271 Fax 704-483-5466 email hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net http://www.wwegeo.com ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 18, 2015
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: What's Your Contribution Used For?
Dear Listers, You might have wondered at some point, "What's my Contribution used for?" Here are just a few examples of what your direct List support enables... It provides for the expensive, commercial-grade Internet connection used on the List. It pays for the regular system hardware and software upgrades enabling the highest performance possible for List services such as the Archive Search Engine, List Browser, and the Web Forums. It pays for the over 23 years of on-line archive data always available for instant search and access. And, it offsets the many hours spent writing, developing, and maintaining the custom applications that power these List Service such as the List Browse, Search Engine, Forums, and Wiki. But most importantly, your List Contribution enables a forum where you and your peers can communicate freely in an environment that is free from moderation, censorship, advertising, commercialism, SPAM, and computer viruses. It is YOUR CONTRIBUTION that directly enables all these aspects of Matronics List services. Please support it today with your List Contribution. Its one of the best investments you can make in your Sport! List Contribution Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 20, 2015
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists...
Dear Listers, Just a reminder that November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these great List services!! Pick up a really nice free gift with your qualifying Contribution too! The Contribution Site is fast and easy: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 22, 2015
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution
Today! Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Please take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors (LOC)! As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems at least as valuable a building / entertainment tool as your typical magazine subscription! Assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 23, 2015
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Fund Raiser Behind By 22% - Please Contribute Today!
Dear Listers, The percentage of members making a Contribution to support the Lists this year is currently behind last year by at this time by roughly 22%. Please take this opportunity to show your support for the Matronics Lists and Forums! Please remember that it is *solely* your direct Contributions that keep these Lists and Forums up and running and most importantly - AD FREE! If the members don't want to support the Lists directly, then I might have to add advertisements to offset the costs of running the Lists. But I don't want to have to do that. I really like the non-commercial atmosphere here and I think that a lot of the members appreciate that too. Please take a moment to make a Contribution today in support of the continued ad-free operation of all these Lists: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA I want to send out a word of appreciation to all of the members that have already made their generous Contribution to support the Lists! Thank you! Matt Dralle Email List and Forums Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 24, 2015
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just A Few Days Left...
Dear Listers, There are just a few days left for this year's List Fund Raiser. If you've been putting off making a Contribution until the last minute, well, this is it! The last minute, that is... :-) There are some GREAT new gift selections to choose from this year. I personally want at least three of them! There's probably something you can't live without too! And, best of all it supports your Lists! Please remember that there isn't any sort of commercial advertising on the Lists and the *only* means of keeping these Lists running is through your Contributions during this Fund Raiser. Let's make this a "Black Friday" for the Lists! Please make a Contribution today! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 25, 2015
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: What Are You Thankful For...?
Dear Listers, Here in the United States, Thursday is our National day of Thanksgiving. Many of us will be traveling to be with our families and friends to share in generous feasts of plenty and giving thanks for the many blessings that have been bestowed upon us. Many Listers have expressed over the last couple of weeks how thankful they are for the Email Lists and Forums here on the Matronics servers and for all of the assistance and comradery they have experienced being a part of the Lists. One of my favorite comments is when someone writes to me and says something like, "Its the first thing I do in the morning while I'm having my morning coffee!". That's a wonderful tribute to the purpose and function of these Lists. Its always great to hear I'm not the only one that jumps out of bed each morning to check my List email!! Won't you take a minute today and show your appreciation for these Lists and for their continued operation and upgrade? The List Contribution Site is: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA Thank you in advance for your kind consideration, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 27, 2015
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Coming Soon!
Dear Listers, There's just three more days left in this year's List Fund Raiser and that means the List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 28, 2015
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Fund Raiser - Just Two Days Left! - Still Well Behind...
Dear Listers, There are just two more full days left in this year's List Fund Raiser. Over the last couple of weeks I have received some really nice comments from members on what the Lists have meant to them and I really appreciate the feedback! At this point, unfortunately, we are still well behind last year in total Contributions to support the continued operation of these services. I really want to keep providing these Lists and Forums to the home built community, but it takes resources. Since there's no advertising budget or deep pockets to keep the operation a float, it's *solely your generosity* during the yearly Fund Raiser that keeps things going. Please make a Contribution today so that I can keep the bills paid and the services and systems turned on. If you've been putting off showing your support for the Lists, now is the time to do it! To make a contribution with a Credit Card or though PayPal at that Matronics Contribution web site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a check in the mail: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 USA Thank you in advance for your support! It is very much appreciated... Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 29, 2015
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: [PLEASE READ] Why I Have A Fund Raiser...
Since the beginning, the Matronics List and Forum experience has been free from advertising. I have been approached by fair number of vendors wanting to tap into the large volume of activity across the various lists hosted here, but have always flatly refused. Everywhere you go on the Internet these days, a user is pummeled with flashing banners and videos and ads for crap that they don't want. Yahoo, Google and that elk are not "free". The user must constantly endure their barrage of commercialism thrust into their face at an ever increasing rate. Enough is enough, and the Lists at Matronics choose not to succumb to that. That being said, running a service of this size is not "free". It costs a lot of money to maintain the hardware, pay for the electricity, air conditioning, maintenance contracts, etc, etc. etc. I choose to hold a PBS-like fund raiser each year during the month of November where I simply send out a short email every other day asking the members to make a small contribution to support the operation. That being said, that contribution is completely voluntary and non-compulsory. Many members choose not to contribute and that's fine. However, a very modest percentage of the members do choose to make a contribution and it is that financial support that keeps the Lists running. And that's it. To my way of thinking, it is a much more pleasant way of maintaining the Lists and Forums. The other 11 months of the year, you don't see a single advertisement or request for support. That's refreshing and that is a List and Forum that I want to belong to. I think other people feel the same way. Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support these Lists? http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Admin. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 30, 2015
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser!
Dear Listers, It's November 30th and that always means a couple of things. Its my birthday again - 52, so don't remind me! :-) But it also means that it's that last official day of the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser! If you been thinking about picking up one of those really nice incentive gifts now is the time to jump on it!! If you've been meaning to make a Contribution this month but have been putting it off for some reason, NOW is the time! I will be posting the List of Contributors in a few days, so you'll probably want to be known as a person that supported the Lists! I want to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution this year in support of our Lists. It is your generosity that keeps this operation running and I don't ever forget it. The List Contribution Web Site is fast and easy. Please support our habit by making your Contribution right now: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA Thank you in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 19, 2015
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Auction For P113 eMag To Support Matronics List Fund Raiser
Dear Listers, Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric fame has generously put a new eMag P113 electronic 4-cylinder mag up for sale on EBay. Bob has pledged to donate all of the proceeds from this auction in support of this year's Matronics Fund Raiser. If you are in the market for one of these great electronic ignitions (I have two eMags on my RV-8 and love them), please bid on this one! http://www.ebay.com/itm/151920582478 Thank you in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 19, 2015
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: 2015 List of Contributors
Dear Listers, The 2015 Matronics Email List and Forum Fund Raiser officially ended a couple of weeks ago and it's time that I published this year's List of Contributors. It is the people on this list that directly make these Email Lists and Forums possible! Their generous Contributions keep the servers and Internet connection up and running! You can still show your support this year and pick up a great gift at the same time. The Contribution Web Site is fast, easy, and secure: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I also want to thank Andy, Bob, and George for their generous support through the supply of many great gifts this year!! These guys have some excellent products and I encourage you to visit their respective web sites: Andy Gold - The Builder's Bookstore - http://www.buildersbooks.com Bob Nucklolls - AeroElectric - http://www.aeroelectric.com George Race - Race Consulting - http://www.mrrace.com And finally, I'm proud to present The 2015 Fund Raiser List of Contributors: http://www.matronics.com/loc/2015.html Thanks again to everyone that made a Contribution this year!! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List & Forum Administrator

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