Avionics-Archive.digest.vol-af
October 26, 2001 - November 28, 2002
I have just finished building an all new Email List Web Browsing feature
for the Matronics Email Lists. The new system allows you to use your web
browser to view all of the current Email List messages. The system's
indexes display all of the current List messages sorted by Subject, Author,
Date, or Thread. Clicking on the URL links on these index pages will open
another "Viewing Window" where the messages will be displayed.
The format of the index pages and message viewing window are consistent
with the existing Matronics Archive Search Engine and should be familiar to
everyone. The messages available on this new List Browsing Feature span
the previous 7 days of email for the given List. Each day the oldest day's
messages are replaced with the current day's messages. The web pages are
updated every 30 minutes with any new messages that are posted to the List
during that time frame.
Please have a look at the new Utility and let me know what you think! For
ease of use, I've added a link to the new system on each of the List
trailers that are appended to each List email message.
I hope you will find the new system useful and also find it to be a handy
companion to the Archive Search Engine.
The new Email Browsing Utility can be found at the following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse
From here, you can select any of the available Email Lists.
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin.
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Benjamin Franklin
Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759
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| From: | "Kevin Shelton" <kjshelton1(at)home.com> |
| Subject: | AHRS recommendations |
Hello Folks,
A respectfully tap into the collective knowledge.
What is the current State of the Art AHRS or possible AD-AHRS available out
there.
Trade off factors include:
- Cost of course
- Interface - RS-232 preferable, but ARINC429 acceptable
- Acceptable angular rates (BTW, What rates should I expect for an RV-8
worse case?)
- Acceptable acceleration range
- GPS blending a plus but not required.
- integrated Air data (AD) definitely a plus, but not required
Just looking for recommendations or problem areas with current equipment.
Adv(thanks)ance
Kevin
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| From: | Brian Lloyd <brian(at)lloyd.com> |
| Subject: | CAN Aerospace pointers |
Does anyone have a pointer to the CAN Aerospace spec?
Brian Lloyd
brian(at)lloyd.com
+1.530.676.1113 - voice
+1.360.838.9669 - fax
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Benjamin Franklin
Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | List Web Server Upgraded! Blazingly Fast Archive Searches!! |
Dear Listers,
As of this weekend, the Matronics Email List Web Server is now running on a
brand new hardware platform and the latest version of RedHat Linux! The
new hardware includes Dual 1.7GHz Xeon Processors, a 400MHz FSB
motherboard, 1GB of 800MHz RAM, a Dual-Channel 160 MB/Sec Ultra-160 SCSI
Controller, and an Ultra 160 36GB 15,000 RPM Seagate Cheetah hard
drive. The performance of the new system is, in a word, breathtaking!
In a variety of benchmark tests against the previous server, the new system
is at *least* six times faster! This means that your Archive Search Engine
queries will now come back in what seems like an instant! Single word
searches of the 113MB RV-List Archive now return in 2-3 seconds, and
searches of all other List Archives return in 1 second or
less!! Performance enhancements in the download and viewing of all other
web-based tools should also be noticeably improved as well.
Please enjoy the new system performance and don't forget, the Annual Email
List Fund Raiser is just around the corner!! :-)
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Benjamin Franklin
Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759
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| From: | "gretz aero" <warrengretz(at)gretzaero.com> |
"Tailwind-List" ,
"RV-List" ,
"Rocket-List" ,
"Lancair-List" ,
"Glasair-List" ,
"EZ-List" ,
"Avionics-List" ,
"AeroElectric-List"
| Subject: | Heated Pitot Tube |
Hello to the List,
If you are interested in a heated pitot tube and a great looking
mounting bracket to put on your aircraft, you may want to look at my
website at http://www.gretzaero.com
There you will see that I have two different pitot tubes available. I
also manufacture a very nice looking mounting bracket kit for the
installation of the pitot tube of your choice. The chrome finish of the
mounting bracket matches the finish of the pitot tube. Or, you may
choose a paintable surface mounting bracket.
I am offering a very special deal on the purchase of my PH502-12CR pitot
tube which is $130, IF, YOU MENTION AT THE TIME OF THE ORDER, YOU SAW
THIS SPECIAL ON THIS E-MAIL LIST. This is a $5 savings on my already low
price of $135. My prices always include shipping in the US.
I hope to hear from you soon.
Warren Gretz
Gretz Aero
303-770-3811
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| From: | "gretz aero" <warrengretz(at)gretzaero.com> |
"Tailwind-List" ,
"RV-List" ,
"Rocket-List" ,
"Lancair-List" ,
"Glasair-List" ,
"EZ-List" ,
"Avionics-List" ,
"AeroElectric-List"
| Subject: | Electric trim cable kits and servo motor kits |
Hello to the List,
I have Electric Elevator Trim Cable Kits and Servo Motor Kits that you
may want to consider using during building or up-grading for electric
elevator trim. On my website http://www.gretzaero.com you will find my
page on Alternative Electric Elevator Trim Kits. There you will see the
information you need to consider for the use of this kit on your
aircraft.
Something that is not yet on the website and is my newest kit, is the
Servo Motor Kit. You will need this kit for the installation of my Trim
Cable Kit and now you will not have to order it from another source.
This Servo Motor Kit consists of the Ray Allen Company T3-12A servo
(formally MAC Servo 8A), an LED position indicator, and a rocker switch.
This servo kit is $235 including shipping in the US. I also have the Ray
Allen Co. Relay Deck which is needed if you want to have more control
switches than the supplied rocker switch in line. This Relay Deck is
$34.50 if it is ordered at the same time as the Servo Kit.
I hope to hear from you soon.
Warren Gretz
Gretz Aero
303-770-3811
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| From: | Tony Cann - SunPS <Tony.Cann(at)sun.com> |
| Subject: | CAN Aerospace pointers |
I haven't found the spec yet. The CAN homepage (www.can-cia.org) has a lot of the CAN specs on it, but I did not find an Aerospace spec. There is a members section that may have more info on it, but it costs 550 Euro to join.
I did run into a CANaerospace interface definition at Oskosh this year, and is reproduced below. The definition was on a handout from Michael Stock Flight Systems (www.mstock.com) from Germany, who was involved in the AGATE program working on the ISP-42 Integrated flight state/air data/navigation sensor package , from Electronic Guidance Systems. His handout also refers to the interace as the AGATE databus (CANaerospace)
CAN Aerospace Interface definition:
NR Signal Name Unit Transmission CAN CANAerospace
interval identifier Data
Type
0 Body pitch Angle deg 12.5ms 311 ($137)
FLOAT
1 Body roll Angle deg 12.5ms 312 ($138)
FLOAT
2 Body yaw rate deg/s 12.5ms 305($131)
FLOAT
3 Body normal accelleration g 12.5ms 302($12E)
FLOAT
4 Computed (calibrated) airspeed m/s 25ms 317($13D)
FLOAT
5 Altitude rate m/s 25ms 314($13A)
FLOAT
6 Standard altitude m 25ms 322($142)
FLOAT
7 Heading angle deg 12.5ms 321($141)
FLOAT
8 GPS aircraft latitude deg 500ms 1036($40c)
FLOAT
9 GPS aircraft longitude deg 500ms 1037($40D)
FLOAT
10 GPS ground speed m/s 500ms 1039($40F)
FLOAT
11 GPS height above ellipsoid m 500ms 1030($40E)
FLOAT
12 GPS true track deg 500ms 1040($410)
FLOAT
13 GPS time(UTC) 500ms 1200($4BO)
CHAR4
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From: Brian Lloyd <brian(at)lloyd.com>
Subject: Avionics-List: CAN Aerospace pointers
Does anyone have a pointer to the CAN Aerospace spec?
Brian Lloyd
brian(at)lloyd.com
+1.530.676.1113 - voice
+1.360.838.9669 - fax
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Benjamin Franklin
Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759
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| From: | Tony Cann <tony.cann(at)sun.com> |
I inally found it. Fist, some background from:
http://www.vector-informatik.de/english/products/index.html??canalyzer_canaerospace
CANaerospace
CANaerospace was developed by the company Stock
Microcomputer Systems that is active in the field of aerospace
technology. The protocol considers the specific demands of aerospace
technology regarding security, capability of certifications, simple
application and openess towards user-defined message types. The protocol
has already been used in a variety of projects. Some well-known examples
are:
Fairchild-Dornier 728JET Engineering Simulator
SOFIA (Stratospheric Observatory for Infrared
Astronomy)
AWRH (All Weather Rescue Helicopter)
AFMS (Advanced Flight Management System)
www.mstock.com has a web page on the spec but the link doesnt work. If
you go to:
http://www.ib-martin.com/
and go to the bottem of the page there is a link to the spec on
www.mstock.com that works, and you can download a PDF copy of the spec.
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| From: | Brian Lloyd <brian(at)lloyd.com> |
| Subject: | Re: re CANBus spec |
At 08:45 AM 10/29/2001, you wrote:
>
>I inally found it. Fist, some background from:
>http://www.vector-informatik.de/english/products/index.html??canalyzer_canaerospace
Thank you Tony. I really appreciate it. That is what I was looking for.
Brian Lloyd
brian(at)lloyd.com
+1.530.676.1113 - voice
+1.360.838.9669 - fax
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Benjamin Franklin
Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759
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| From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
| Subject: | Cool Graph on Archive Search Times... |
Hi Listers,
Below is a link to an interesting graph of the current Archive Search
Engine ( http://www.matronics.com/search ) search times done on the 113Mb
RV-List Archive file. The graph shows searches back through about
Thursday. Based on the search times (shown in the Y axis), see if you
can pick out the point at which the new Web Server hardware was
installed... Impressive? :-)
http://www.matronics.com/rv-list/RV-ListArchiveSearchTimes.jpg
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
EMail List Admin.
--
Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Benjamin Franklin
Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | 2001 List Fund Raiser - Please Support Your Lists... |
Dear Listers,
During November of each year, I have a voluntary Email List Fund Raiser to
support the continued operation, development, maintenance and upgrade of
the Forums sponsored here. Your contributions go directly into
improvements in the systems that support the Lists and to pay for the
Internet connectivity primarily dedicated to supporting the Lists.
This year, I've made some substantial improvements to the Lists and the
supporting systems. These upgrades are focused on making your experience
here faster, more enjoyable, and most importantly, informative. Here is a
partial list of improvements that I've made on the systems this year:
o Upgraded Web Server
- Minimum 6X increase in performance *
- Tons more high performance disk space and memory!
- Increased availability and reliability - UPS Backup
- Improved support for > 130,000 Archive Searches each year!
* See http://www.matronics.com/rv-list/RV-SearchTime.jpg
o Email System Disk Subsystem Upgrade
- More storage and faster access times
- Faster redistribution of List Messages
- Processed over 45,000 List messages in 2001; 50,000 in 2000!
o All new List Browse Feature *
- Browse the last seven day's worth of List Messages
- Quick access to current threads
- Sort messages by Thread, Date, Subject, or Author
* See http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse
o All new Photo Share Feature * &
- Simply email your photos and files to share
- Scanned for viruses
- Automatic Web Page Generation
- Includes descriptions and poster information
* See http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
& Officially to be announced soon
o Transition To High Performance Internet Service Provider
- Improved reliability
- Better access from most sites on the Internet
- Improved throughput
These are just some of the more visible improvements I've implemented this
year. I'm always working to improve the behind the scenes operation of the
Lists. I've built an elaborate system of message text and source address
filtering mechanisms to assure that you only receive text data in the
message, spam is nearly non-existent, computer viruses are never propagated
through the Lists, and that message post redistribution is smooth and
trouble free.
This year has seen a lot of improvements in the Email List experience. If
you enjoy the Forums here and make use of the many features, won't you take
a moment and make a Contribution to support the continued operation and
maintenance? Please note there is no advertising funding on the
Lists. You don't see annoying banner ads in the Email messages or on any
of the web pages. This just seems more friendly to me and makes the List
experience just that much more personal.
The operation of these Lists is supported *completely* through the
donations of List Members just like you!
Please take a moment to support your Lists by making a Secure Credit Card
Contribution at the following web site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or you may send a personal check to:
Matronics Email Lists
c/o Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
I would like to thank everyone in advance for their Contribution and for
their continued support over the past year!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | List Fund Raiser Off to a Slow Start... |
Hi Listers,
First I want to take everyone that has taken a minute already to make a
Contribution to support the Email Lists in 2001! I also really appreciate
all the kind words I've been receiving regarding the Lists and how much
they mean to everyone. The testimonial means a lot to me and makes the
many hours working on the system worth it!! Later in the month, I'll share
a few of the kind words with the Lists.
I've added a nifty new Bar Graph Thermometer to the message trailer that
gives an up-to-the-minute percentage status of how many members have made a
Contribution during 2001! It was a fun piece of code to write and
hopefully will be a fun way to watch the Fund Raiser's Progress this year!
As I've said in the past, the Lists are supported *completely* through your
generous Contributions during the Fund Raiser and throughout the
year. This includes all of the system and connectivity upgrades we seen,
as well as makes the many hours I spend each month keeping the systems
running even more enjoyable ;-).
Won't you take a moment and make a Contribution right now to support your
Lists? Its fast and easy with the On-line, SSL secure Credit Card system,
or by direct US-Mailing a check. For complete information, please see the
following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you in advance for your Generous Contribution!!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
PS - Don't forget to monitor the Fund Raiser Bar Graph below!
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Benjamin Franklin
Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | What Listers Are Saying - Fund Raiser Continues... |
Dear Listers,
The 2001 List Fund Raiser is going well and I want to thank everyone that
has already so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists! Below
are some of the great comments and feedback members have been including
along with their Contributions.
Won't you make a Contribution today to support the continued operation and
upgrade of your Lists? Its fast and easy using the SSL Secure Web Site or
by simply sending a personal check. Complete information can be found at
Contribution web site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
A give a special Thank You to all of those that have already contributed so
far this year!!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
================== What Listers Are Saying ====================
Great information site.
- Edward S.
This is the first thing I look at every day.
- Ralph M.
The new List option is WONDERFUL!
- Kenyon B.
...new Search Software is absolutely fantastic!!
- Bruce K.
...essential to my enjoyment of RV building and flying.
- Douglas W.
Great List!
- Randall H.
...an invaluable service!
- Carlos S.
...incredible service to the industry!
- Alex M.
Building wouldn't be the same without the "Great List".
- Tom E.
...has helped the building process immensely.
- Hap S.
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Have You Tried the New List Browse Feature?? |
Hi Listers,
I've been getting a LOT of very positive feedback on the new Email List
Browsing feature I added to the suite of List services a couple of weeks
ago. A number of List members have written to say that they love the new
List Browser because they can keep tabs on the latest List messages
throughout the day without having to constantly check their email or wait
for the Digest issue to come out.
The List Browse Function allows you to use your web browser to view the
current 7 day's worth of List messages for the give List. The indexes are
updated every 30 minutes with any new messages that have been posted. You
can sort all of the message indexes by Thread, Subject, Author, or Date and
easily track and find current threads.
You can check out the New List Browse Feature by going to the following URL
and clicking on the List of your choice:
http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse
Please remember that November is List Fund Raiser month!! The continued
operation and upgrade of the Email Lists are _entirely_ supported by YOUR
Contributions and support. You'll never see annoying, flashing banner ads,
or other forms of commercialism on these Lists. Just people sharing
information, data, and stories about your favorite topic, plain (plane?)
and simple.
If you enjoy the Lists and all of the services here, won't you take moment
and make a quick Contribution? It fast and easy using the SSL Secure Web
site with your Visa or MasterCard. Or, you can also send a personal check
to the address listed below.
SSL Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution
USMail: Matt Dralle
c/o Matronics
PO Box 347
Livermore, CA 94551-0347
Don't forget that the "List of Contributors" will be coming out in just a
few short weeks! Don't you want to make sure you're name is on it?
I would like to wish a special "Thank You" to everyone that has made a
Contribution so far this year!!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
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| Subject: | fuse block defect |
| From: | Grant Corriveau <gfcorriv(at)total.net> |
Matronics Zenith list
I built my electrical system in my Zenair ch601 roughly according to Bob
Nucholl's diagrams. I used 3 fuse blocks which I ordered from him - the big
one for the main bus, 10 slot unit for the essential bus, and another 6 slot
unit for my ignition/fuel pump bus.
My 10 slot unit turned out to have a defective slot in the top right corner.
Bob sent me a replacement right away. Now my 6 slot unit also has the same
fault. The problem shows up as an intermittent connection and a looseness
in the fuse as it sits in the holder.
This defective unit is powering one of my wing tank boost pumps, so I'm glad
that I have a witness light in the circuit. Otherwise I might not have
picked up the intermittent problem for a long time! and thought that I was
having a fuel imbalance problem from some other source.
fwiw
--
Grant Corriveau
Montreal
Zodiac 601hds/CAM100
C-GHTF
www.theWingStayedON.ca
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Free Copy of Van's New "THE RV STORY" Video! |
Hey Listers!
In support of the 2001 Email List Fund Raiser, Andy Gold of The Builder's
Bookstore ( http://www.buildersbooks.com/ ) is donating a FREE COPY of the
new edition of Van's "The RV Story" video (VHS) to any Email List Member
making a Contribution of $50 or more!
To take advantage of this wonderful Offer, please include the following
information along with your Contribution, either in the Message Box if you
Contribute on-line, or on a slip of paper if your Contribution is by check
via the USMail:
Van's RV Story Video Offer
$50 or Greater Contributor
[your name]
[your shipping address]
[your City, State and Zip Code]
If you've already made a Contribution in 2001 of $50 or more and would like
to receive the video, please drop me an email ( dralle(at)matronics.com ) and
include the information shown above with the words "Video Offer" in the
Subject line.
Please note that this new edition of "The RV Story" will first be available
in about 8 weeks.
I want to thank Andy Gold and the Builder's Book Store for this *very
generous* Contribution! If you haven't taken a moment to check out The
Builder's Book Store web site yet, you owe it to yourself to have a look (
http://www.buildersbooks.com/ ). Andy has a fabulous selection of
interesting, informative, and exceptionally useful books and videos on his
site. Please have a look!
Again, I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a
Contribution so far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Your Contributions
make all of the Lists and Services found here possible - period.
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | What They're Saying... |
Hi Listers,
The 2001 List Fund Raiser is currently underway and lot's of people have
been making their Contribution and saying a lot of very nice things about
the Lists and what they're daily-dose of Forum means to them! I've
included a few more of the Lister comments below.
Won't you take a moment to support your Lists this month? Its fast and
easy by making a Secure Credit Card Contribution at the following web site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or by sending a personal check Contribution to:
Matronics Email Lists
c/o Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
For Complete information on the upgrades and improvements the Lists and
servers have undergone this year, have a look at this URL:
http://www.matronics.com/searching/getmsg_script.cgi?INDEX=113171908?KEYS=asdfasdf?LISTNAME=RV?HITNUMBER=4?SERIAL=1942094803?SHOWBUTTONS=NO
Here's few more of the comments I've been receiving about what the Lists
mean to its members:
======================
Not only a great way to help each other out, it's been
a wonderful way to meet new friends. - Fred H.
The List is invaluable to me...
- Russell W.
I absolutely love your Lists...
- Scott C.
...you are tying all the builders together.
- David A.
The Lists continue to be an invaluable source of
information. - Jeff O.
I look forward to reading my Email every day...
- Harvey S.
They are invaluable resources to builders of all
skill levels. - Kevin H.
...another year of excellent service.
- Terry W.
Way cool setup.
- Chuck R.
...source of information, inspiration, support,
and camaraderie. - Carlos S.
I'd be lost without them...
- Jeff O.
======================
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Hi Listers,
The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! On December 1st
I post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support
the Lists. Its sort of my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a
minute to show their appreciation for the Lists.
Won't you take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of
Contributors? As a number of people have pointed out, the List seems at
least, if not a whole lot more, valuable as a building/flying/recreating
tool as a typical your magazine subscription. We won't even talk about a
newsstand price... :-)
Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming
LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to
support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa or M/C on the SSL Secure
Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by popping a personal check in the mail to:
Matronics Email Lists
c/o Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
!! Don't forget !!
Andy Gold of the Builder's Book Store ( http://www.buildersbooks.com/ ) has
generously donated a FREE copy of Van's new "The RV Story" video to anyone
making a Contribution of $50 or more to support the Lists. For complete
information on the _awesome_ offer, please see this URL:
http://www.matronics.com/searching/getmsg_script.cgi?INDEX=113629625?KEYS=asdf?LISTNAME=RV?HITNUMBER=1?SERIAL=23392130806?SHOWBUTTONS=NO
To make sure you get your video, be sure to follow the instructions at the
URL above carefully!
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution
thus far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support
that keeps these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a
little comment about how the Lists have helped you! I love to feel the
love... :-)
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Michael Brown... |
Hi Listers,
In support of the 2001 Email List Fund Raiser, Michael Brown of Brown
Aviation Tool Supply Co. ( http://www.browntool.com ) has generously
offered to provide Gift Certificates to all Listers making Contributions of
$30 or more this year!
Making your Contribution to support these Email Lists and to qualify for
the Brown Tool Gift Certificate is fast and easy by using the SSL Secure
Credit Card Contribution Web Site at:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or by sending a personal check Contribution to:
Matronics Email Lists
c/o Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
According to Michael, "The Gift Certificates have absolutely no strings
attached and are as good as cash for anything from the Brown Tool Web Site
or Catalog."
The amount of your Gift Certificate is based on the size of your List
Contribution and is according to the following:
$100 or greater Contribution receives a $25 Gift Certificate!
or
$30-$99 Contribution receives a $10 Gift Certificate!
==================== How To Receive Your Certificate ====================
To receive your Brown Tool Gift Certificate, send an email message to:
browntooloffer(at)matronics.com
and include the following information:
1) Subject Line: Tool Offer
2) Which Gift Certificate you qualify for ($10 or $25)
3) [Your Name]
4) [Your Mailing Address]
5) [Your City, State Zip]
** Please only use the email address shown above (
browntooloffer(at)matronics.com ) to request your Gift Certificate!
*** Anyone making a List Contribution of $30 or more in 2001 qualifies for
the Gift Certificate!
==================== How To Receive Your Certificate ====================
You should receive your Gift Certificate from Brown Tool in about 2-4 weeks.
I want to thank Michael Brown of Brown Aviation Tool Supply Co. for this
wonderful offer in support of the Email Lists! If you haven't yet had a
look at the Brown Tool Web Site ( http://www.browntool.com ), then you own
it to yourself to take a peek! He has some great deals and good quality tools.
And finally, I would like to thank everyone that has already made a
Contribution in this year's Fund Raiser! Its YOUR support that keeps these
Lists running and NOT ADVERTISING and FLASHING BANNER ADS...
Thank you!!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | NAV Generator Computer Program |
Hello,
For your enjoyment and edification, I have written a computer program
that generates NAV audio. It (maybe) can be used to tweek VOR indicators
on the bench. I say *maybe* because I haven't tested it on an actual
indicator yet.
It's a little tiny Windows program ( 44K executable ). It's not fancy.
You run it, the sound comes out of the audio card, you adjust the radial
with a slider.
It uses the Windows low-level digital audio API. It runs the sound card
at 48,000 samples per second. That's the fastest documented sample rate of
my sound card, which is nothing special.
The program calculates the sound mathematically, using a sines table.
Anyway, if anybody wants to play with this thing, you can download it at
http://www.tr2.com/jerry/aviation/vorgen.exe.
- Jerry Kaidor ( jerry(at)tr2.com )
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | What Can You Say...? |
Dear Listers,
I've been getting a ton great comments on what the Lists mean to its
members and I've included a few of them below. I'm sure _most_ of you can
echo one or more of these sentiments to the tune of a nice List
Contribution... :-)
Just one more week until I post the 2001 List of Contributors! Won't you
support the continued operation of these Lists by making a Contribution
today and assure your place on the upcoming Contributor List? I'm sure
your friends will be checking for your name on the LOC... ;-)
SSL Secure Web Visa and MasterCard Contributions:
http://www.matronics.com/contributions
Personal Check via the US Mail:
Matronics Email Lists
c/o Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore, CA 94551-0347
I want to thank everyone that has already made a Contribution this
year! YOU make these Lists possible!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
===========================================================================
Can't live without my List everyday!
- John B.
Information you can't get anywhere else.
- George D.
...one of the finest List sites on the Internet.
- Dennis S.
This List has saved my bacon more than once!
- Larry H.
Really invaluable service for a novice builder.
- John B.
...got some useful help from the List.
- Rocky S.
A valuable resource.
- Dennis N.
This List is a Super resource...
- Dwight F.
...couldn't have gotten this far without the
resources on the List.
- Jerry C.
Great service to us builders...
- Ronald M.
...someday we'll all meet in RV Heaven. Hey,
how come there isn't an "RV-Heaven" List?
- Louis W.
The info I've gleaned from the List has saved
me several thousand dollars...
- Kevin H.
...the only International, Interesting, Up-to-date,
List with the best search engine ever!
- Hans L.
...check it ever day so I don't miss anything.
- Jim B.
Great List!
- Douglas G.
This List has saved me a few times already...
- Thomas R.
...part of my morning wake up reading.
- Dwight F.
...helped my make my plane better, safer, better
looking, and built it quicker.
- Kevin H.
Have bought many items from the info the List gives.
- Jim B.
You meet the nicest people here.
- George D.
Informative, Amusing, Entertaining...
- John B.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Mike Rice" <mrice5(at)austin.rr.com> |
| Subject: | RE: Avionics-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 11/25/01 |
I found a aircraft scheduling site at http://www.schedulemaster.com/ I think
there is at least one other that I have run across.
Mike Rice
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Don't Miss The Video... |
Hey Listers!
Just a reminder that in support of the 2001 Email List Fund Raiser, Andy
Gold of The Builder's Bookstore ( http://www.buildersbooks.com/ ) is
donating a FREE COPY of the new edition of Van's "The RV Story" video (VHS)
to any List Member making a Contribution of $50 or more!
To take advantage of this wonderful Offer, please include the following
information along with your Contribution, either in the Message Box if you
Contribute on-line, or on a slip of paper if your Contribution is by check
via the USMail:
Van's RV Story Video Offer
$50 or Greater Contributor
[your name]
[your shipping address]
[your City, State and Zip Code]
If you've already made a Contribution of $50 or more during the 2001 Fund
Raiser and would still like to receive the video, please drop me an email (
dralle(at)matronics.com ) and include the information shown above with the
following Subject Line:
Subject: Video Offer
Please note that this new edition of "The RV Story" will first be available
in about 8 weeks.
I want to thank Andy Gold and the Builder's Book Store for this *very
generous* Contribution! If you haven't taken a moment to check out The
Builder's Book Store web site yet, you owe it to yourself to have a look (
http://www.buildersbooks.com/ ). Andy has a fabulous selection of
interesting, informative, and exceptionally useful books and videos on his
site. Please have a look!
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution
so far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Just a few more days until I send
out the List of Contributors for 2001. Make your Contribution today to
make sure your name is on the LOC!!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Tom Brusehaver <cozytom(at)mn.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Aircraft scheduling software |
If you have a web server already, check http://freshmeat.net,
search for calendar. There are some really flexible
conference roon schedulers listed there.
Our club uses aircraftclubs.com, and it works great.
For about $100/year, it is tough to beat the no maintence
and other features listed.
>
>
> Since my last post I have been looking as well. Most of them look really
> good, but who wants to pay a monthly fee? That is just going to come back
> to those of us that are still renting! I started writing a simple calendar
> script tonight and could have it done in a day or two. My question is
> this.. What exactly would you like the page to display? Multiple aircraft
> on one page, a "bar graph" type time table (can be done, just takes a bit
> longer), or an 'Outlook' type calendar? I'm open to ideas and suggestions.
> When I'm done I'll post the link so you can take a look at it... if you like
> it I can provide the code. Just a thought.
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Brown Tool Gift Certificate Reminder... |
Hi Listers,
Just a reminder that in support of the 2001 Email List Fund Raiser, Michael
Brown of Brown Aviation Tool Supply Co. ( http://www.browntool.com ) has
generously offered to provide Gift Certificates to all Listers making
Contributions of $30 or more this year!
Making your Contribution to support these Email Lists and to qualify for
the Brown Tool Gift Certificate is fast and easy by using the SSL Secure
Credit Card Contribution Web Site at:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or by sending a personal check Contribution to:
Matronics Email Lists
c/o Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
According to Michael, "The Gift Certificates have absolutely no strings
attached and are as good as cash for anything from the Brown Tool Web Site
or Catalog."
The amount of your Gift Certificate is based on the size of your List
Contribution and is according to the following:
$100 or greater Contribution receives a $25 Gift Certificate!
or
$30-$99 Contribution receives a $10 Gift Certificate!
==================== How To Receive Your Certificate ====================
To receive your Brown Tool Gift Certificate, send an email message to:
browntooloffer(at)matronics.com
and include the following information:
1) Subject Line: Tool Offer
2) Which Gift Certificate you qualify for ($10 or $25)
3) [Your Name]
4) [Your Mailing Address]
5) [Your City, State Zip]
** Please only use the email address shown above (
browntooloffer(at)matronics.com ) to request your Gift Certificate!
*** Anyone making a List Contribution of $30 or more in 2001 qualifies for
the Gift Certificate! But, you have to follow the instructions above to
receive it!
==================== How To Receive Your Certificate ====================
You should receive your Gift Certificate from Brown Tool in about 2-4 weeks.
I want to thank Michael Brown of Brown Aviation Tool Supply Co. for this
wonderful offer in support of the Email Lists! If you haven't yet had a
look at the Brown Tool Web Site ( http://www.browntool.com ), then you own
it to yourself to take a peek! He has some great deals and good quality tools.
I would like to thank everyone that has already made a Contribution in this
year's Fund Raiser!
Thank you!!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Benford2(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Avionics-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 11/28/01 |
that is a great idea. Smart thinkin on your part!
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Contributors Down By 25%... |
Dear Listers,
First I want to thank everyone that has already so generously made a
Contribution toward this year 2001 List Fund Raiser. It is your support
that makes these Lists possible.
Since there are only a couple more days until the official end of this
year's drive, I want to share some statistics regarding this and previous
Fund Raiser percentages. In years past, the percentage of members making a
Contribution to support the Lists has typically been right around 23% of
the total List population. This year, however, you'll note from the
Contribution Meter that we're only at a little over 16% for some
reason. This is down by roughly 7%, and translates into about a *30%
decrease* in participation this year!
I'm hoping that everyone is just waiting until the very last minute to make
their Contribution this year, and that the needle on the Contribution Meter
will still creep up to the normal 23% in the next few days! Saturday or
Sunday I will be posting the 2001 List of Contributors, so you'll want to
heat up that Contribution Web Site right away to make sure your name is on
the 2001 LOC!!
The SSL Secure Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
The US Mail Address:
Matronics Email Lists
c/o Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore, CA 94550-7227
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [PLEASE READ] - Why Have A Fund Raiser Each Year? |
Listers,
A couple List Members have asked if the Lists are "in trouble financially"
and wanted to know if this is why I was having a Fund Raiser. It got to
thinking that perhaps I should explain why I have a Fund Raiser and also
take the opportunity to express why I think the List Services here provide
a far better experience than the commercial equivalents.
I use the List Fund Raiser each year to offset the costs involved with
running a high performance email list site such as this one. With the
annual support from the List members through the PBS-like Fund Raiser, I
have found I can run the entire site without having to inflect any of the
members with those annoying banner ads flashing up all the time trying to
sell Toner Cartridge Refills or other garbage nobody wants or needs. From
the comments I've received over the years regarding the Lists, the great
majority of the members really appreciate the non-commercialism of my List
systems and don't mind my 'go-team-go' banter once a year to encourage
members to support the Lists.
I believe that the Lists services that I provide here offer a great many
benefits over the commercial equivalents in a number of ways. The first
feature I believe to be particularly significant is that you *cannot*
receive a computer v*rus from any of my Lists directly. I've been on a few
other List servers and have been unfortunate enough to download infected
files people have innocently or not-so-innocently included with their
posts. This just can't happen with my Lists; each incoming message is
filtered and attachments stripped off prior to posting. I provide a Photo
and File Share feature that allows members to share files and bitmaps with
other members and everyone can be assured that these files will be
prescanned for any sort of v*rus before they are posted. Safe and
simple. Also, with this photo and file sharing technique, the Archives
don't get loaded up with a great amount of bitmap "data" that slows the
Archive Search times.
Another feature of this system is the extensive List Archives that are
available for download, browsing, and searching. The Archives go all the
way back to the very beginning of each List and with the super fast Search
Engine, the huge size of the Archives is a non-issue in quickly finding the
data you're looking for. Another feature of the Archives, in my opinion,
is that they have been primarily stripped of all the useless email header
data and all the other header garbage that seems to build up in a typical
email thread.
I have received an extremely positive response from Listers regarding the
new List Browse feature and the consensus is that the format and ease of
use is outstanding. Members report that having the previous 7 days worth
of messages online for easy browsing and sorting is hugely beneficial. And
again, as with the real time distribution of List email, the messages are
stripped of all the unnecessary email headers and potentially dangerous
v*ruses.
I've been running email Lists and services under the matronics.com domain
since about 1989 starting with RV-List and 30 guys I knew who where
building RVs. It has grown into nearly 40 different aviation-related Email
Lists and an associated web site that receives over 500,000 hits each
month!! With all the dot.bombs these days, I think there's a lot of value
in supporting a service that has gone the long haul and is still providing
and improving a high quality service at a price that's nearly free.
I have to admit running these Lists is a labor of love and I hope it shows
in the quality of the experience that you receive when you get a List Email
Message, Search the Archives, or use the List Browser. The Lists will be
here for a long time to come. If you just want to lurk a while for free,
that's great and I encourage you to do so. If you use, appreciate, and
receive value from these Lists, then please support them during the Annual
List Fund Raiser!
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
------------------------------------------
The SSL Secure Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
The US Mail Address:
Matronics Email Lists
c/o Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore, CA 94550-7227
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________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Finn Lassen <finnlassen(at)netzero.net> |
I'm currently using my Magellan GPS315A to drive the Anywhere map on my iPAQ.
More frequently I've begun to loose signal ("Poor GPS Coverage"), so I'm looking
for
an alternative (read backup) GPS to feed the iPAQ.
I'm surprised to find that the Garmin GPS35 sells for more than $180 whereas I
can buy
a Magellan GPS310 for $100 at Walmart.
Apart from having to push the "Power on" button on the GPS310, is there any advantage
to using the GPS35?
Anybody know of a cheap source for a GPS35?
Finn
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Free Stuff Reminder... |
Dear Listers,
Don't forget that you can receive a free copy of Van's new Video, "The RV
Story" with a $50 or greater contribution this year, or a $10 Gift
Certificate from Brown Tool for a $30 or greater contribution or a $25 Gift
Certificate for a $100 contribution. Below are two URLs for complete
information on the two Offers. Please follow the respective instructions
*carefully*.
Van's Video Offer Information:
http://www.matronics.com/searching/getmsg_script.cgi?INDEX=5781141?KEYS=asdf?LISTNAME=Yak?HITNUMBER=2?SERIAL=09092616692?SHOWBUTTONS=NO
Brown Aviation Tool Gift Certificate Information:
http://www.matronics.com/searching/getmsg_script.cgi?INDEX=5838463?KEYS=asdf?LISTNAME=Yak?HITNUMBER=2?SERIAL=09080216166?SHOWBUTTONS=NO
I want to thank Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore and Michael Brown of
Brown Aviation Tool Supply Co. for their generous offers in support the
Lists this year!! Thank you, guys!
I'd like to thank everyone that has already made a generous Contribution in
support of the Lists!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Listers,
Below are some of the comments I've received just this week alone from
members along with their Contributions to support the Lists! What can I
say? Wow. I really appreciate the kind words and extremely positive
feedback and I would encourage you to read over a few of comments below. I
think they really say a mouthful...
The last couple of days have seen a huge increase in support!! Thank you
to all that have Contributed and to those that have rallied support for the
Lists! Since the response has been so wonderful recently, I plan to delay
the posting of the 2001 List of Contributors a few days to assure that
everyone will be included!
Won't you make your Contribution today to support the Lists?
------------------------------------------
The SSL Secure Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
The US Mail Address:
Matronics Email Lists
c/o Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore, CA 94550-7227
------------------------------------------
Thank you to everyone for the kind words and support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
======== Some Great Comments on What The Lists Mean to its Members ==========
...great source of information, education,
relaxation, frustration, and socialization.
- John H.
Can't imagine what it would be like building
with out the Lists...
- Steven E.
Look forward to the list every day.
- Parker T.
I really enjoy reading the banter...
- Wesley H.
...enjoy the patter on construction tips and
possible problem areas.
- Richard N.
Couldn't have built my RV-4 without the List
and archives!!
- Warren M.
I have found the list to be a great help,
especially for a first time builder.
- Peter D.
I thoroughly enjoy the List.
- Larry B.
The List is a great resource.
- Dennis K.
The list is great entertainment.
- Gary Z.
Can't say enough about the good information
that I have received from reading the List.
- Robert C.
...it's the best!
- Steve F.
I'm addicted to the List!
- Rodney B.
The list has been a wonderful resource of
knowledge.
- Doug B.
As a first time builder, the lists have
been my most important source of information.
- James V.
It [read the List] is the first thing I do
every day is see what's new.
- Billie F.
The information available through the List
has made my flying safer...
- Dave R.
I get much more information about my plane
from this List than from all of my aviation
magazines combined.
- Roger H.
I love the list!!!!
- Ken L.
Much better value than a magazine subscription.
- Ted M.
...found it very useful.
- Allan J.
...this list has been a great service to me.
- Peter F.
I cannot express just how USEFUL the Lists are.
- Geoff T.
...a tremendous help to my RV-8 project and
a way to meet some of the best people going.
- Steve G.
The List is invaluable, and the best I've
ever seen.
- Ed C.
Like another family for many of us.
- John H.
The lists have saved a bunch of calls to
Van's for guidance.
- James V.
I think I'm addicted...
- Terry C.
Love it!
- David W.
The information really helps...
- Jim P.
...I find [it] very informative.
- Real D.
...List keeps me motivated... - Cliff M.
The exchange of information is really helpful...
- M.N.
Lots of great info on the List.
- Larry D.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Michael McGee <jmpcrftr(at)teleport.com> |
| Subject: | Re: GPS35 vs GPS310 |
>From: Finn Lassen <finnlassen(at)netzero.net>
>Subject: Avionics-List: GPS35 vs GPS310
>
>
>I'm currently using my Magellan GPS315A to drive the Anywhere map on my iPAQ.
>More frequently I've begun to loose signal ("Poor GPS Coverage"), so I'm
>looking for
>an alternative (read backup) GPS to feed the iPAQ.
>
>I'm surprised to find that the Garmin GPS35 sells for more than $180
>whereas I can buy
>a Magellan GPS310 for $100 at Walmart.
>
>Apart from having to push the "Power on" button on the GPS310, is there
>any advantage
>to using the GPS35?
>
>Anybody know of a cheap source for a GPS35?
>
>Finn
Hi Finn,
I can't help you on price but I can tell you that in around 15,000 miles of
flying in the last 14 months in the -4 with the GPS35/iPAQ I have never
lost a signal and it has rock solid performance. This rig took us from
Oregon to Florida to Venezuela and back last year without a hick up. I
like the fact it runs on ship power, too.
Mike McGee, RV-4 N996RV, O320-E2G, Aurora, OR
13B in gestation mode
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Finn Lassen <finnlassen(at)netzero.net> |
| Subject: | EDO-AIRE RT-553 repair/parts |
I'm trying to repair an EDO-AIRE RT-553 NAV/COM radio for a friend.
Does anyone know where to get parts for these?
I think I've traced it to a chip in the synthesizer: F 95H04DC (I assume
an IC by Fairchild). Haven't been able to find it in any databook.
Anybody know what it is and where I can get it?
Finn
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| From: | John Loram <johnl(at)loram.org> |
| Subject: | EDO-AIRE RT-553 repair/parts |
Go to http://www.usbid.com/index.cfm (The Global Marketplace for Electronic
Components) They have them.
-john-
-----Original Message-----
From: Finn Lassen [mailto:finnlassen(at)netzero.net]
Subject: Avionics-List: EDO-AIRE RT-553 repair/parts
I'm trying to repair an EDO-AIRE RT-553 NAV/COM radio for a friend.
Does anyone know where to get parts for these?
I think I've traced it to a chip in the synthesizer: F 95H04DC (I assume
an IC by Fairchild). Haven't been able to find it in any databook.
Anybody know what it is and where I can get it?
Finn
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| From: | Finn Lassen <finnlassen(at)netzero.net> |
| Subject: | Re: EDO-AIRE RT-553 repair/parts |
Thanks John!
Unfortunately it looks like they only sell in mass quantities ($250 minimum
orders).
Finn
John Loram wrote:
>
> Go to http://www.usbid.com/index.cfm (The Global Marketplace for Electronic
> Components) They have them.
>
> -john-
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Finn Lassen [mailto:finnlassen(at)netzero.net]
> To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com; avionics-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Avionics-List: EDO-AIRE RT-553 repair/parts
>
>
> I'm trying to repair an EDO-AIRE RT-553 NAV/COM radio for a friend.
>
> Does anyone know where to get parts for these?
>
> I think I've traced it to a chip in the synthesizer: F 95H04DC (I assume
> an IC by Fairchild). Haven't been able to find it in any databook.
> Anybody know what it is and where I can get it?
>
> Finn
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| From: | "Swaney, Mark J" <SwaneyMJ(at)navair.navy.mil> |
Finn,
Try Ed Moore at:
Aire-Sciences, Inc.
19B Gardner Rd.
Fairfield, NJ 07004
(973) 575-7725
He repaired my RT-553 about 2 years ago.
Mark
From: Finn Lassen <finnlassen(at)netzero.net <mailto:finnlassen(at)netzero.net>
>
Subject: Avionics-List: EDO-AIRE RT-553 repair/parts
>
I'm trying to repair an EDO-AIRE RT-553 NAV/COM radio for a friend.
Does anyone know where to get parts for these?
I think I've traced it to a chip in the synthesizer: F 95H04DC (I assume an
IC by Fairchild). Haven't been able to find it in any databook. Anybody
know what it is and where I can get it?
Finn
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | John Loram <johnl(at)loram.org> |
| Subject: | EDO-AIRE RT-553 repair/parts |
Sorry about that. Here's a UK dealer that takes credit cards. Maybe they'll
sell a single unit.
http://www.dialelectronics.co.uk/f3.htm
-john-
-----Original Message-----
From: Finn Lassen [mailto:finnlassen(at)netzero.net]
Subject: Re: Avionics-List: EDO-AIRE RT-553 repair/parts
Thanks John!
Unfortunately it looks like they only sell in mass quantities ($250 minimum
orders).
Finn
John Loram wrote:
>
> Go to http://www.usbid.com/index.cfm (The Global Marketplace for
Electronic
> Components) They have them.
>
> -john-
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Finn Lassen [mailto:finnlassen(at)netzero.net]
> To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com; avionics-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Avionics-List: EDO-AIRE RT-553 repair/parts
>
>
> I'm trying to repair an EDO-AIRE RT-553 NAV/COM radio for a friend.
>
> Does anyone know where to get parts for these?
>
> I think I've traced it to a chip in the synthesizer: F 95H04DC (I assume
> an IC by Fairchild). Haven't been able to find it in any databook.
> Anybody know what it is and where I can get it?
>
> Finn
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| From: | Quilters Confectionery <qltconf(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Manual for Narco AT50 |
I am trying to locate an instruction book for use of my AT 50A
Transponder. They are no available from Narco!
I especially need to know how to perform an IDENT function
on the unit. There is no label on any control on the unit that says
"IDENT". Is the light on the right side of the unit also a push button for the
IDENT operation?
Many Thanks, Larry Owner/Operator N22027
http://www.quiltsweets.com
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| From: | "Gary Casey" <glcasey(at)gte.net> |
| Subject: | Manual for Narco AT50 |
Almost for sure. When you push the button does the light come on for about
10 seconds? Does the light also blink when it receives a radar signal? If
yes to both of the above then it is. I used to have a Narco transponder and
I vaguely recall that it was that way.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Quilters
Confectionery
Subject: Avionics-List: Manual for Narco AT50
I am trying to locate an instruction book for use of my AT 50A
Transponder. They are no available from Narco!
I especially need to know how to perform an IDENT function
on the unit. There is no label on any control on the unit that says
"IDENT". Is the light on the right side of the unit also a push button for
the
IDENT operation?
Many Thanks, Larry Owner/Operator N22027
http://www.quiltsweets.com
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | John Loram <johnl(at)loram.org> |
| Subject: | Manual for Narco AT50 |
Here is what it says on the Narco Web site
( http://www.narco-avionics.com/at150rbody.htm );
"* Large Combined IDENT Push-button/Interrogation Reply Light".
If you go to the web site, and click on the image of the Transponder, you be
able to view an enlarged image with clearly label functions.
regards, -john-
-----Original Message-----
From: Quilters Confectionery [mailto:qltconf(at)earthlink.net]
Subject: Avionics-List: Manual for Narco AT50
...I especially need to know how to perform an IDENT function
on the unit. There is no label on any control on the unit that says
"IDENT". Is the light on the right side of the unit also a push button for
the
IDENT operation?
Many Thanks, Larry Owner/Operator N22027
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Annette Coulter" <coulter(at)alaska.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Avionics-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 12/05/01 |
Does anyone have any experience with "imported" electric attitude gyros such
as sold by ACS? I heard they were made by Falcon, but I'm not finding any
information of them either.
carl (Glastar - stringing cables)
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Annette Coulter" <coulter(at)alaska.net> |
Oops - Forgot a subject
Does anyone have any experience with "imported" electric attitude gyros such
as sold by ACS? I heard they were made by Falcon, but I'm not finding any
information of them either.
carl (Glastar - stringing cables)
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jim Covington" <jc(at)relian.com> |
There's a good article in this month's Aviation Consumer about exactly that
subject.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Annette
Coulter
Subject: Avionics-List: imported gyros
Oops - Forgot a subject
Does anyone have any experience with "imported" electric attitude gyros such
as sold by ACS? I heard they were made by Falcon, but I'm not finding any
information of them either.
carl (Glastar - stringing cables)
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | glasboz1(at)att.net |
| Subject: | Electric Att Gyro power up before start |
I have one electric gyro (attitude) and one vacuum gyro.
Both happen to be RC Allen.
Will powering up the electric gyro before engine start
help extend its life? Seems to me if you start the
engine with the gyro sitting still, the vibration bangs
it up preety good.
Does anyone out there know?
Thanks,
Carter Boswell
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Brian Lloyd <brian(at)lloyd.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Electric Att Gyro power up before start |
At 09:28 PM 12/9/2001, you wrote:
>
>I have one electric gyro (attitude) and one vacuum gyro.
>Both happen to be RC Allen.
>
>Will powering up the electric gyro before engine start
>help extend its life? Seems to me if you start the
>engine with the gyro sitting still, the vibration bangs
>it up preety good.
>
>Does anyone out there know?
Yes. I asked the RC Allen folk at OSH and my local gyro overhauler whether
the gyros were better able to handle vibrations and aerobatics when running
or when turned off. Both said that there was less stress on the gyros when
the gyros were not turning but that it really didn't matter with modern
gyros. In my RV-4 I had a switch to turn the AI and DG on and off. If I
was planning to fly acro, the gyros remained off. If I was going
cross-country, I turned the gyros on after engine start along with the rest
of the electrical equipment.
YMMV.
Brian Lloyd
brian(at)lloyd.com
+1.530.676.1113 - voice
+1.360.838.9669 - fax
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
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Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | New Photo Share Main Index Page - The Detail You Asked |
For...
Hi Listers!
I've been noticing a lot of people having fun with the new Email List Photo
and File Share feature and I've seen a great many hits on the various
member pages.
A number of you wrote to say that some additional topic data on the Main
Photo Share Index page would certainly be helpful and I would have to agree.
It took a little programming, and it was a job retrofitting to all of the
older Shares, but I think you'll be pleased with the outcome! I've added
Poster Name, Photo Share Subject, and Target Email List data to the Main
Index. Clicking on a Subject text opens a new window with the Photo Share
and the thumbnails.
Have a look and feel free to submit your photos for sharing! The
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The URL is:
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| From: | ROBINFLY(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | re: Century IIB manual |
Does anyone have a Century IIB A/P service manual? Will pay to copy the
section on how to adjust the potentiometer for low threshold. Many thanks.
Robin Hou
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [ PLEASE READ ] : Matronics Network Upgrade Mon. 12/17/01 |
Listers,
According to my ISP, Speakeasy, they will be doing some sort of "backbone
upgrade" Monday, 12/17/01. Their message doesn't mention whether or not
this will impact connectivity for any length of time. I wanted everyone to
know that there might be a time when access to the Matronics Web Server and
Email Lists might be unavailable. If there's a problem, I'll post a
message from a different email address with details.
Bottom line: Hopefully nobody will notice...
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| From: | "Terry Lamp" <tlamp(at)genesishcs.org> |
12/17/2001 09:57:27 AM
If anyone is interested in a yellow tagged King KY 197 A Comm radio, please
email privately
Thanks
Terry
Long EZ
Ohio
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Chuck Deiterich" <cfd(at)tstar.net> |
"avionics-list"
I am considering buying a Garmin GNC 250XL GPS/COM or a King KLX 135A
GPS/COM. Both are expensive so before I commit does anyone use one of
these?
Also, if viewed from the side are can you still read them ok?
Thanks, Chuck D.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Dave Trainer" <dtrain(at)ptd.net> |
I got a Garmin 195 hand held with a Cessna that I bought about three years
ago. It has the monochrome, LCD display with several different contrast
settings. I found it simply unreadable under many conditions. In addition,
it is fairly complex and difficult to use while trying to fly the airplane.
I replaced a panel mounted Apollo loran with the GX-55 Apollo GPS. This
has a much brighter display (LED ?) that is easily read and viewed in all
light conditions. In addition, it is much much easier to use than the
garmin. Its moving map function is super.
I flew that Cessna 170 from Pennsylvania to Alaska and back in summer 2000
using the Apollo while my flying partner was working the Garmin. I
typically had the Apollo set for the next flight well before my partner had
the Garmin set.
Thinking way ahead, if I put avionics in my Piet, I am most seriously
considering the Apollo SL60 or the GX65. Each weighs only a couple of
pounds and provides a good com radio, GPS, and a two person intercom. The
display is like that in the GX55, very readable. The GX65 includes a moving
map, missing on the SL60.
Now I know that some folks will bemoan the complexity of putting this in
the simple Piet. But, if we try to consider what B. Pietenpol would have
done, we have to realize that above all, he was safety conscious! He
designed, built, and flew his own planes, and taught himself to fly. Thirty
years later, he was still flying and now modifying the Corvair engine for
the plane. That doesn't happen unless you think "safety." I envy Mike Cuy
and others that fly over the fields of the farm country with a minimum of
air traffic. But, where I fly, it's not unusual to have four planes in the
pattern at one time. And on occassion, five and six planes will be in the
pattern. I feel safer if I can listen to who's there and make myself heard.
I'll definitely be looking for NORAD's but I will also be on the radio.
And, I'll rationalize that if Mr. Pietenpol were flying today, he'd probably
have a radio in his plane if he were in crowded air space.
-- My .02
Have a great holiday
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Chuck
Deiterich
Subject: Avionics-List: GPS/Comm
I am considering buying a Garmin GNC 250XL GPS/COM or a King KLX 135A
GPS/COM. Both are expensive so before I commit does anyone use one of
these?
Also, if viewed from the side are can you still read them ok?
Thanks, Chuck D.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jordan, Mel" <jordan_mel(at)ti.com> |
Chuck,
I have installed the GNC250XL in my RV6A. It is a very nice little unit,
only about 6 inches deep. I have learned how to use its features and find
it very straight forward. I have flown both the Garmin and the King in
rental aircraft (my RV is still under construction) and find both easy to
use and easy to see even in bright sunlight. No problem seeing the Garmin
display from the side, even a pretty acute angle. When in the shop I have
turned on the unit and easily read the display while standing outside the
aircraft with at least a 60 degree offset from looking straight at the unit.
I did roll the plane out into the sunlight once, and even with direct sun on
the Garmin display, it was readable. By the way, I also went with the
Garmin GTX327 transponder, and the two units talk to each other quite
nicely. Made for a very good looking and easily functioning pair.
Best Regards,
Mel Jordan
Tucson, AZ
From: "Chuck Deiterich" <cfd(at)tstar.net>
"avionics-list"
Subject: Avionics-List: GPS/Comm
I am considering buying a Garmin GNC 250XL GPS/COM or a King KLX 135A
GPS/COM. Both are expensive so before I commit does anyone use one of
these?
Also, if viewed from the side are can you still read them ok?
Thanks, Chuck D.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Brian Lloyd <brian(at)lloyd.com> |
My favorite GPS/Comms for most things are the UPSAT Apollo SL-60 and
GX-60. Their comm radios are superb and they offer the ability to monitor
the standby frequency while still listening to the main frequency. My
PA-16 has an SL-60 as its only comm and I don't miss not having a second
comm at all.
If you want some sort of moving map display the SL-60 won't cut it for
you. If you want IFR enroute but not approach, look at the GX-65. If you
want approach capability see the GX-60.
I have SL-60's installed in three of my aircraft right now and I am adding
a GX-60 to one, moving the SL-60 that is already there to my project
airplane (under construction). Support has been good as has
reliability. I like the redundancy of the Apollo systems much better than
Garmin but Garmin has the prettier face.
YMMV.
Brian Lloyd
brian(at)lloyd.com
+1.530.676.1113 - voice
+1.360.838.9669 - fax
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Kevin Ebsen" <kevin(at)colby.ixks.com> |
Brian: Do you use the intercom function the GX-60 offers and if so is it a
good quality inter-com?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Brian
Lloyd
Subject: Re: Avionics-List: GPS/Comm
My favorite GPS/Comms for most things are the UPSAT Apollo SL-60 and
GX-60. Their comm radios are superb and they offer the ability to monitor
the standby frequency while still listening to the main frequency. My
PA-16 has an SL-60 as its only comm and I don't miss not having a second
comm at all.
If you want some sort of moving map display the SL-60 won't cut it for
you. If you want IFR enroute but not approach, look at the GX-65. If you
want approach capability see the GX-60.
I have SL-60's installed in three of my aircraft right now and I am adding
a GX-60 to one, moving the SL-60 that is already there to my project
airplane (under construction). Support has been good as has
reliability. I like the redundancy of the Apollo systems much better than
Garmin but Garmin has the prettier face.
YMMV.
Brian Lloyd
brian(at)lloyd.com
+1.530.676.1113 - voice
+1.360.838.9669 - fax
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Brian Lloyd <brian(at)lloyd.com> |
On Fri, 21 Dec 2001, Kevin Ebsen wrote:
>
> Brian: Do you use the intercom function the GX-60 offers and if so is it a
> good quality inter-com?
No, I don't. It is a voice-activated intercom and probably would work
just fine but it is only a two-place intercom.
Brian Lloyd
brian(at)lloyd.com
+1.530.676.1113
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "James MASSENGILL" <maule220c(at)msn.com> |
| Subject: | Narco, Radair Schematics, Installation manuals |
I am looking for some installation information for the following equipment.
Narco VOA-50M indicator
Radair 200 nav receiver
Radair 240 nav indicator w/ glideslope receiver
Radair 360 (not approved for transmit) com
Radair became Terra?
The Nav receiver and Radair indicator works but need pin-out for audio etc..
Thanks,
Jim
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Gary Liming <gary(at)liming.org> |
Could someone please tell me what the actual current draw is for their Turn
Coordinator (not just what size fuse to use)? I don't have mine yet, and I
wanted to do some planning.
Thanks,
Gary Liming
________________________________________________________________________________
Gary Liming wrote:
>
>
>
> Could someone please tell me what the actual current draw is for their Turn
> Coordinator (not just what size fuse to use)? I don't have mine yet, and I
> wanted to do some planning.
>
*** I knew this at one time. Stuck a digital ammeter across the master
contactor and turned things on and off. I seem to remember something
like 1 amp for the TC.
- Jerry Kaidor ( jerry(at)tr2.com )
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | mmajors(at)ieee.org (mmajors(at)ieee.org) |
Here's one data point - STEC System 55 Turn Coordinator
spec is 0.3A nominal, doesn't differentiate between
28VDC or 14VDC supply.
----- Original Message -----
From: <jerry(at)tr2.com>
Subject: Re: Avionics-List: T/C current
>
> Gary Liming wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Could someone please tell me what the actual current
draw is for their Turn
> > Coordinator (not just what size fuse to use)? I
don't have mine yet, and I
> > wanted to do some planning.
> >
> *** I knew this at one time. Stuck a digital ammeter
across the master
> contactor and turned things on and off. I seem to
remember something
> like 1 amp for the TC.
>
> - Jerry Kaidor (
jerry(at)tr2.com )
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Brian Lloyd <brian(at)lloyd.com> |
On Mon, 14 Jan 2002 jerry(at)tr2.com wrote:
> > Could someone please tell me what the actual current draw is for their Turn
> > Coordinator (not just what size fuse to use)? I don't have mine yet, and I
> > wanted to do some planning.
I have seen different values for different t/C and needle/ball
instruments. You didn't mention whether you have a 28V or a 14V
electrical systems either so I am going to assume a 14V system. A good
ballpark is 1.5A startup current and a steady state of about 0.5A. That
will be good enough for figuring your power budget. I have seen running
currents in the range of 300 mA to 1A.
Brian Lloyd
brian(at)lloyd.com
+1.530.676.1113
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Finn Lassen <finnlassen(at)netzero.net> |
Mine draws about 0.15 amps, but as much as .7 amps while first spinning up (if
I recall correctly).
Finn
Gary Liming wrote:
>
> Could someone please tell me what the actual current draw is for their Turn
> Coordinator (not just what size fuse to use)? I don't have mine yet, and I
> wanted to do some planning.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gary Liming
>
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| From: | "Robert J. Mayer" <rjmayer(at)optonline.net> |
I am re-doing my panel and have the following avionics available for sale, all
with trays and wiring harness and all yellow tagged:
KX 170B with KNI 520 GS
KX 170B with KN 70
KN 206 w/o GS
Narco DME 190, $700
Genave Marker Beacon, $150
contact Steve: 317sc(at)optonline.net
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| From: | glasboz1(at)att.net |
Dear List,
Thought I'd send this again because I lost your first
replies.
I've got a KX-155 that when I transmit, squeals on
freq's 118.6 and 118.4. I can hear the squeal in my
headset and The tower controller hears a loud squeal.
It doesn't squeal on other freq's.
The radio is in a Glasair.
How can I stop this from happening?
Thanks
Carter Boswell
G-IIRG
N131CB
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Brian Lloyd <brian(at)lloyd.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Radio Squeal |
At 11:07 AM 1/24/2002, you wrote:
>I've got a KX-155 that when I transmit, squeals on
>freq's 118.6 and 118.4. I can hear the squeal in my
>headset and The tower controller hears a loud squeal.
The squeal is probably RF feedback into your mic. Switch headsets and/or
mics to see if that has any effect. If not, you may need to do a better
job of shielding your mic wiring. Ferrite beads on the mic wiring may help
too.
Also, be sure to check the VSWR of your antenna. You may need more or
better ground plane.
Brian Lloyd
brian(at)lloyd.com
+1.530.676.1113 - voice
+1.360.838.9669 - fax
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Michel Therrien <mtherr(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | PTT and shielding |
My radio wiring diagram shows a shielded cable for the
microphone jacks. I does include the PTT wire within
the shielded cable. Is this a requirement? or is
this for simplicity?
Does the PTT in the control stick has to be wired with
a shielded wire?
Thanks!
=====
----------------------------
Michel Therrien CH601-HD
http://pages.infinit.net/mthobby
http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Brian Lloyd <brian(at)lloyd.com> |
| Subject: | Re: PTT and shielding |
At 04:53 PM 1/24/2002, you wrote:
>
>My radio wiring diagram shows a shielded cable for the
>microphone jacks. I does include the PTT wire within
>the shielded cable. Is this a requirement? or is
>this for simplicity?
Simpilicity.
>Does the PTT in the control stick has to be wired with
>a shielded wire?
No.
>Thanks!
You are welcome.
Brian Lloyd
brian(at)lloyd.com
+1.530.676.1113 - voice
+1.360.838.9669 - fax
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "David J. Spencer" <djs(at)Group54.com> |
Let me start from the beginning...
Pertinent Avionic Equipment:
2 ea. Terra TXN 960 NavCom (one just rebuilt by Gulf Coast the other by
Trimble)
1 ea. Terra 230 audio panel (just rebuilt by Trimble)
Complete "new" wiring harness (using shielded wire (Tefzel)) according to
Terra wiring diagram.
New Sigtronics SCI-4 intercom wired according to specification and passes
all installation checks.
Other avionics:
Collins ADF
Narco transponder
King KLN-88 Loran
All appear to work fine.
Problem:
1. With the engine "off" and running on the battery I get a "faint buzz"
(not rice crispies) in the radio(s). It seems to be triggered by reception
and can be eliminated for a short time by turning off the radio and/or
cycling the breaker for the radio... the radio rebuilt by Trimble is the
affected unit. (Com2)
2. With the engine "off" and running on the battery the audio panel develops
a "faint buzz" which can randomly appear on any of the following circuits,
com1, com2, or ADF, when switching between headphone and speaker. Yesterday
it was in the ADF, today it's in the com1 circuit.
Could this be low voltage? Battery checks to have 12.0 volts.
I cannot hear this when the engine is running and am wondering if I'm just
being too picky?
I also may be getting some kind of power bleed to the skin when I turn on
the battery master as I noticed a "static" type of shock today when moving
about the plane. Could this be causing the "faint buzz"?
David J. Spencer
Beech Super III
djs(at)Group54.com
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Finn Lassen <finnlassen(at)netzero.net> |
| Subject: | How to take a Magellan GPS 315A apart |
Anybody successfully taken a GPS 315 apart? If so, how?
Mine finally stopped working. Probably a bad connection between antenna and receiver,
as software works fine. I've already cleared memory and even uploaded latest firmware
and re-initialized, of course. In the past it would occasionally and intermittently
loose signal from all satellites. This happened more and more frequently over the
last
year to the point where it doesn't see any permanently.
I'm sure I'll get a bunch of responses along the lines of which GPS I should use,
how
to re-initialize it, etc., etc., but all I want to know is:
How does one open it up?
Finn
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| From: | "Gary K" <flyink(at)efortress.com> |
I've been waiting for the new MicroAir xcvr and xpndr but it's starting to
hold up my panel so I'm thinking of getting an ICOM A200 and Garmin GXR 327
instead. Any thoughts or experience on any of these?
Same thing with the Dynon verses RMI uEncoder and RC Allen AH but the
price difference is huge so I'll have to hold out until last minute.
Thanks, Gary K.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "James Foerster" <jfoerst(at)jps.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Avionics-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/05/02 |
Gary K
Pete at Jabaru USA says that the Microaire 760 has cleared customs and
is on the way to his shop where he will then send it to me. He also says
that the T2000 transponder should be available in a few weeks. The Garmin
GXR 327 is nice, but is $2000 everywhere I check. The UPS AT SL70 is the
same price, but must be installed by the shop that sells the unit.
I agree that the Dynon unit looks great, but if you need something
similar right now, Blue Mountain Avionics is selling the EFIS/Lite for $2800
and they are shipping now. See http://bluemountainavionics.com for details.
Greg Richter presented at Oshkosh last year, and I was there. He knows his
stuff, and his company does not depend upon the experimental market to stay
in business. The ERIS/Lite can be had with a 3 axis mag compass for an
extra $700 if you want to dump the magnetic analog whisky compass.
Jim Foerster
----- Original Message -----
From: "Avionics-List Digest Server" <avionics-list-digest(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Avionics-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/05/02
> *
> Avionics-List Digest Archive
> ---
> Total Messages Posted Tue 02/05/02: 1
>
>
____
> From: "Gary K" <flyink(at)efortress.com>
> Subject: Avionics-List: ICOM, MicroAir
>
>
> I've been waiting for the new MicroAir xcvr and xpndr but it's starting
to
> hold up my panel so I'm thinking of getting an ICOM A200 and Garmin GXR
327
> instead. Any thoughts or experience on any of these?
> Same thing with the Dynon verses RMI uEncoder and RC Allen AH but the
> price difference is huge so I'll have to hold out until last minute.
>
> Thanks, Gary K.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Michel Therrien <mtherr(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Avionics-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/05/02 |
--- James Foerster wrote:
>The Garmin
> GXR 327 is nice, but is $2000 everywhere I check.
Aircraft Spruce sells it for 1438$.
For myself, I decided I wanted a 2-1/4" model such as
the T2000 or the upcoming Becker. So far both units
are way past their deadline for delivery and I just
hope they deliver one day. I won't believe anything
they say about target date until I see the unit own my
own desk.
Michel
=====
----------------------------
Michel Therrien CH601-HD
http://pages.infinit.net/mthobby
http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601
http://greetings.yahoo.com
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Gary K" <flyink(at)efortress.com> |
Thanks for the reply, good info. I'll go check out the Blue Mountain (I
looked at it before, but they only had a $10K unit).
Both of the MicroAir units have been "available in a few weeks" for quite
a few months, I have been trying to buy them and keep hearing the same
thing. Since I gave up and started looking elsewhere, the Garmin unit looks
nice and is $1495 at Gulf Coast (specify experimental, they don't need to
install it). The Icom is $899 and that makes the pair only $200 more and
available today. The differences seem to be weight, 8.33 spacing for the
MicroAir 760VHF-833, and intercom capability. The MicroAir has a built-in
intercom with music input but I'm not clear on what the Icom has. I'll call
them today. MicroAir advertises the weight for the xcvr (14 oz vs 2.4 lbs
for the Icom) but doesn't list it for the xpndr. I'd guess it's close to
the Garmin since they are both 200W. The transponder code entry on the
Garmin is really slick but I bet you get used to the MicroAir knob pretty
quick anyway. The display on the Garmin looks better (bigger and clearer).
Gary K.
----- Original Message -----
From: James Foerster <jfoerst(at)jps.net>
Subject: Avionics-List: Re: Avionics-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/05/02
>
> Gary K
> Pete at Jabaru USA says that the Microaire 760 has cleared customs and
> is on the way to his shop where he will then send it to me. He also says
> that the T2000 transponder should be available in a few weeks. The Garmin
> GXR 327 is nice, but is $2000 everywhere I check. The UPS AT SL70 is the
> same price, but must be installed by the shop that sells the unit.
> I agree that the Dynon unit looks great, but if you need something
> similar right now, Blue Mountain Avionics is selling the EFIS/Lite for
$2800
> and they are shipping now. See http://bluemountainavionics.com for
details.
> Greg Richter presented at Oshkosh last year, and I was there. He knows
his
> stuff, and his company does not depend upon the experimental market to
stay
> in business. The ERIS/Lite can be had with a 3 axis mag compass for an
> extra $700 if you want to dump the magnetic analog whisky compass.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Larry Bowen <lcbowen(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Avionics-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/05/02 |
Have you considered the Blue Mountian Avionics EFIS/Lite as another alernative
to the Dynon? Why not? http://bluemountainavionics.com/
-Larry Bowen
RV-8 baggage door
> From: "Gary K" <flyink(at)efortress.com>
> Subject: Avionics-List: ICOM, MicroAir
>
>
> I've been waiting for the new MicroAir xcvr and xpndr but it's starting to
> hold up my panel so I'm thinking of getting an ICOM A200 and Garmin GXR 327
> instead. Any thoughts or experience on any of these?
> Same thing with the Dynon verses RMI uEncoder and RC Allen AH but the
> price difference is huge so I'll have to hold out until last minute.
>
> Thanks, Gary K.
> #Digest Mode#
http://greetings.yahoo.com
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jim Robinson" <jbr(at)hitechnetworks.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Avionics-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/05/02 |
I recently purchases the GTX-327 from Pacific Coast Avionics for
$1295.
Jim
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Gary & Sandi" <rv9er(at)3rivers.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Avionics-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/05/02 |
Gary......I am in about the same shape as you are. I have the older
version of the Microair 760 in my Cygnet, and really like the radio.
The new one has some nice additions, like weather channels and the vox
intercom.
The 760 I have has done an excellent job. The range is amazing, the
audio is good, and man, is it small and light, and easy to use. No
complaints. I have been in the landing pattern at Valier, Montana
talking to someone taking off from Anaconda so clear I thought we might
be at the same airport. That is over 150 miles, with the Front Range of
the Rockies in between.
The old version of the 760 is around $699 now, and RST has a deal on
them for around $150 less than that! Catch is, he can't ship any to
addresses in the U.S., because of exclusive dealership arrangements.
You would have to go to Southern California to pick it up in person.
I am interested in people's experiences with various transponders, too.
I want something as reliable and trouble-free as possible, with Mode C.
Gary Crowder
Belt, Montana
I've been waiting for the new MicroAir xcvr and xpndr but it's
starting to
hold up my panel so I'm thinking of getting an ICOM A200 and Garmin GXR
327
instead. Any thoughts or experience on any of these?
Same thing with the Dynon verses RMI uEncoder and RC Allen AH but the
price difference is huge so I'll have to hold out until last minute.
Thanks, Gary K.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jim Selby" <jimscjs(at)mbay.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Avionics-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/05/02 |
Michel
I got one of the MicroAir Transponders, but had to go thur, Germany and sent
to me here.
Real nice unit built stronger than the MicroAir Radio I got also.
Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Michel
Therrien
Subject: Re: Avionics-List: Re: Avionics-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/05/02
--- James Foerster wrote:
>The Garmin
> GXR 327 is nice, but is $2000 everywhere I check.
Aircraft Spruce sells it for 1438$.
For myself, I decided I wanted a 2-1/4" model such as
the T2000 or the upcoming Becker. So far both units
are way past their deadline for delivery and I just
hope they deliver one day. I won't believe anything
they say about target date until I see the unit own my
own desk.
Michel
=====
----------------------------
Michel Therrien CH601-HD
http://pages.infinit.net/mthobby
http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601
http://greetings.yahoo.com
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jim Selby" <jimscjs(at)mbay.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Avionics-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/05/02 |
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jim Selby
Subject: RE: Avionics-List: Re: Avionics-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/05/02
Michel
I got one of the MicroAir Transponders, but had to go thur, Germany and sent
to me here.
Real nice unit built stronger than the MicroAir Radio I got also.
Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Michel
Therrien
Subject: Re: Avionics-List: Re: Avionics-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/05/02
--- James Foerster wrote:
>The Garmin
> GXR 327 is nice, but is $2000 everywhere I check.
Aircraft Spruce sells it for 1438$.
For myself, I decided I wanted a 2-1/4" model such as
the T2000 or the upcoming Becker. So far both units
are way past their deadline for delivery and I just
hope they deliver one day. I won't believe anything
they say about target date until I see the unit own my
own desk.
Michel
=====
----------------------------
Michel Therrien CH601-HD
http://pages.infinit.net/mthobby
http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601
http://greetings.yahoo.com
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jim Selby" <jimscjs(at)mbay.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Avionics-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/05/02 |
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Michel
Therrien
Subject: Re: Avionics-List: Re: Avionics-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/05/02
--- James Foerster wrote:
>The Garmin
> GXR 327 is nice, but is $2000 everywhere I check.
Aircraft Spruce sells it for 1438$.
For myself, I decided I wanted a 2-1/4" model such as
the T2000 or the upcoming Becker. So far both units
are way past their deadline for delivery and I just
hope they deliver one day. I won't believe anything
they say about target date until I see the unit own my
own desk.
Michel
=====
----------------------------
Michel Therrien CH601-HD
http://pages.infinit.net/mthobby
http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601
http://greetings.yahoo.com
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Brian Lloyd <brian(at)lloyd.com> |
At 04:40 AM 2/6/2002, you wrote:
>
>MicroAir 760VHF-833, and intercom capability. The MicroAir has a built-in
>intercom with music input but I'm not clear on what the Icom has. I'll call
>them today.
One thing to consider, the MicroAir has problems with front-end
overload. I teach formation flying and we have discovered that the
MicroAir receiver pretty much fails when presented with the signal from a
5W transmitter as close as 200' away. The recovered audio is effectively
useless for communications. It works fine when we are starting our join
ups but when you get into formation, forget understanding what anyone else
in the formation is saying.
>MicroAir advertises the weight for the xcvr (14 oz vs 2.4 lbs
>for the Icom) but doesn't list it for the xpndr. ... The transponder code
>entry on the Garmin is really slick but I bet you get used to the MicroAir
>knob pretty quick anyway. The display on the Garmin looks better (bigger
>and clearer).
The MicroAir knobs are difficult to use in turbulence and virtually
impossible to use if you aren't looking closely at the radio.
I have had lots of problems with the Garmin GTX-320 transponder but have
been told that the new one is much better. I have an SL-70 installed on
one of my aircraft and like it very much. I like having the pressure
altitude display from the encoder on the front panel. Also, the SL-70 has
the serial altitude output needed by the other Apollo GPS receivers so you
don't need a grey-code-to-serial converter.
Brian Lloyd
brian(at)lloyd.com
+1.530.676.1113 - voice
+1.360.838.9669 - fax
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Gary K" <flyink(at)efortress.com> |
> Have you considered the Blue Mountian Avionics EFIS/Lite as another
alernative
> to the Dynon? Why not? http://bluemountainavionics.com/
I just checked it out today - looks great. Right now, there's a 60 day
wait with a 20% non-refundable deposit. I almost went for it but in a
comparison, I like the Dynon display a little better (although Greg has a
newer display in the works) and the Dynon has more features (AOA, G-meter)
for less money ($2K vs $3.5K with heading). Of course, the biggest contrast
is that the EFIS/Lite is working and available (and going for TSO as-is).
They are pretty close to the same size (3.9" X 4.1" vs 4.25" sq) and both
fit in a 3 1/8" hole so at least I can finish the layout and cut metal
knowing that I'll get one or the other.
So back to the xcvr/xpndr tradeoff because they will need different
layouts although they are pretty close in size as a pair. Just as I was
leaning towards waiting for the Microairs, Brian's comments and the $1295
Spruce price switched me back again. Thanks for the good comments, I
appreciate it.
Gary K.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Belated List of Contributors #2... |
Dear Listers,
I'd like to apologize for the delay in posting the 2001 List of
Contributors Number 2, as well as getting behind in the List Photo
Shares. Here's my sad story... Over the Christmas holidays, I was working
out in the shop on a rotating drum sander. I was sanding out the woofer
hole in a speaker enclosure and, long story short, the part got away from
me and started spinning like a Hula hoop on the drum. Rather than just
turning the machine off like I should have done, I tried to grab the part
and in the process badly broke the ring fingers on *both* my right and left
hands!! I had to go in for surgery on the left hand because of the joint
damage and was stuck in a thing called an "external fixator" for almost 4
weeks. The right hand has healed up well, but the left one is very stiff
and I'm currently only getting about 70 degrees of bend. The doctor says
that I will get 80-90% of the moment back with a great deal of therapy and
I'm going to hold them to that...
The moral of the story is that even a sander can be a dangerous tool. I
had been working with a table saw, drill press, scroll saw, and high power
routers all day long and afforded them all the respect they deserved. But
with the sander, I never even thought about how things could go bad. It
just didn't seem like a dangerous tool. Be careful out there in the
shop. In a moment you can hurt yourself; hurt yourself in such a way that
you will have to live with the damage the rest of your life. Nothing is
worth that.
I'm finally back working on the computer and getting back to email and
other stuff. Later today I will be processing the mound of Photo Shares
that have backed up while I was out. I also just finished up the 2001 List
Contributions and have included the List Number 2 below.
I want to thank everyone that has so generously contributed to the List
this past year! It is your Contributions that make these Lists possible.
I understand that the Van's Videos from the Builder's Bookstore should be
shipping very soon if not already, and the discount coupons from Brown
Tools should already have arrived. Thanks again to Andy Gold and Michael
Brown for their generous support of the Lists this year with these giveaways!
Oh, and now that my fingers are working pretty well again, I've decided to
go ahead and finish my RV-4!! I had a LOT of guilt over wanting to sell
it... :-)
Happy Building and Flying!
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| From: | "Jerry Morris" <Jerry.Morris(at)nsc.com> |
I have questions about headset differences in general.
Beside the obvious connector differences, what is the difference between
the helicopter headset airplane headset and the military headset.
i have found a david clark headset with a single connector(maybe helicopter)
and i want to rewire the
connector for GA airplane.
the mic is 5 ohm and the headphones is 500 ohms..
can i just rewire the connector or would i have to build some amp/adapter to
make it work for me?
i also have a military headset the mike is 100 ohms and the headphones is
1k ohms... what do i need to
do to make it work for me?
thanks
jerrym(at)nsc.com
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Brian Lloyd <brian(at)lloyd.com> |
At 07:19 AM 2/27/2002, you wrote:
>
>
>I have questions about headset differences in general.
>
>Beside the obvious connector differences, what is the difference between
>the helicopter headset airplane headset and the military headset.
>i have found a david clark headset with a single connector(maybe helicopter)
>and i want to rewire the
>connector for GA airplane.
>
>the mic is 5 ohm and the headphones is 500 ohms..
>can i just rewire the connector or would i have to build some amp/adapter to
>make it work for me?
>
>i also have a military headset the mike is 100 ohms and the headphones is
>1k ohms... what do i need to
>do to make it work for me?
GA headsets tend to have 300-600 ohm impedance. This cannot be measured
with an ohm meter so don't try.
Military headsets tend to be low impedance, usually on the order of 8-30
ohms.
They will work with a standard GA audio system but they will have lower
audio volume than other headsets. The corollary to this is if your
headphone audio output uses a very low impedance output stage and then the
military headset will have higher audio output than a GA headset plugged
into the same jack.
The microphones used in military helmets/headsets are totally different and
totally incompatible with GA audio systems. GA audio systems are based on
low-impedance high-output carbon microphones while the military uses
low-output high-impedance dynamic microphones. You can use an electret or
amplified dynamic mic in a GA aircraft.
Microphones used in helicopters tend to be much better at rejecting cockpit
noise and are a good choice.
So, if you have a GA helicopter headset, you only need to make an adaptor
between the single plug and the two standard GA plugs. Such an adaptor is
available from Flight Suits Limited as well as other places.
If you have a military headset with a dynamic mic, you need to replace the
microphone before you can use it in a GA aircraft. I recommend the
Sigtronics M-80H electret microphone because it is designed for high noise
level cockpits such as that found in homebuilts and warbirds and is
designed to attach to a standard microphone boom.
Brian Lloyd
brian(at)lloyd.com
+1.530.676.1113 - voice
+1.360.838.9669 - fax
________________________________________________________________________________
Brian Lloyd wrote:
>
> Military headsets tend to be low impedance, usually on the order of 8-30
> ohms.
> They will work with a standard GA audio system but they will have lower
> audio volume than other headsets.
*** A small audio transformer can convert the high impedance output of the
GA system to the low impedance that the military headset requires. Then
you will get full volume. Radio Shack # 273-1380 should work nicely.
The microphone is a harder problem. Basically, you would need to build
an amplifier that would convert the low-level voltage produced by the
dynamic element to a variable resistance.
- Jerry Kaidor ( jerry(at)tr2.com )
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Brian Lloyd <brian(at)lloyd.com> |
At 02:05 PM 2/27/2002, you wrote:
>
>Brian Lloyd wrote:
> >
>
> > Military headsets tend to be low impedance, usually on the order of 8-30
> > ohms.
> > They will work with a standard GA audio system but they will have lower
> > audio volume than other headsets.
>
>*** A small audio transformer can convert the high impedance output of the
>GA system to the low impedance that the military headset requires. Then
>you will get full volume. Radio Shack # 273-1380 should work nicely.
This will work. I just don't like having an extra dongle on my cable.
>The microphone is a harder problem. Basically, you would need to build
>an amplifier that would convert the low-level voltage produced by the
>dynamic element to a variable resistance.
It is much easier to just swap out the microphone.
Brian Lloyd
brian(at)lloyd.com
+1.530.676.1113 - voice
+1.360.838.9669 - fax
________________________________________________________________________________
Brian Lloyd wrote:
>
> >you will get full volume. Radio Shack # 273-1380 should work nicely.
>
> This will work. I just don't like having an extra dongle on my cable.
>
> >The microphone is a harder problem. Basically, you would need to build
> >an amplifier that would convert the low-level voltage produced by the
> >dynamic element to a variable resistance.
>
> It is much easier to just swap out the microphone.
>
*** Heck, it's even easier to buy a new headset. When you come down to
it, it's easier to just buy a certificated airplane and write out checks to
the FBO.
- Jerry Kaidor ( jerry(at)tr2.com )
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Brian Lloyd <brian(at)lloyd.com> |
At 03:07 PM 2/27/2002, you wrote:
> > It is much easier to just swap out the microphone.
> >
>
>*** Heck, it's even easier to buy a new headset. When you come down to
>it, it's easier to just buy a certificated airplane and write out checks to
>the FBO.
There is a point of the ridiculous. As I recall, I said I don't like
dongles and that replacing the mic is probably the most sensible course of
action. That advice falls into the reasonable category between hacking
something unreliable together and what you said above.
Some people like homebuilts and some people like spam cans. I have a
little of both. Both have their places.
Brian Lloyd
brian(at)lloyd.com
+1.530.676.1113 - voice
+1.360.838.9669 - fax
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Michel Therrien <mtherr(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | ElectrONic AH and DG? |
Hello group,
I would like to have gyros or equivalent in my plane,
but I have not found simple electronic gyros yet.
At one end of the scale, I found a device which
connects to a PDA so you see attitude information on
the PDA's screen.
At the other end, I found integrated engine
instruments, attitude, altitude, airspeed,
temperature, direction, gps and whatever you can
imagine.
Will there be any device available to simply replace
mechanic AH and DG in a unit of similar size?
Thanks for your insight.
=====
----------------------------
Michel Therrien CH601-HD
http://pages.infinit.net/mthobby
http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601
http://greetings.yahoo.com
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Brian Lloyd <brian(at)lloyd.com> |
| Subject: | Re: ElectrONic AH and DG? |
>
>Will there be any device available to simply replace
>mechanic AH and DG in a unit of similar size?
See the EFIS/lite from Blue Mountain Avionics
http://www.bluemountainavionics.com
Brian Lloyd
brian(at)lloyd.com
+1.530.676.1113 - voice
+1.360.838.9669 - fax
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Gary Liming <gary(at)liming.org> |
| Subject: | Re: ElectrONic AH and DG? |
>
>Hello group,
>
>I would like to have gyros or equivalent in my plane,
>but I have not found simple electronic gyros yet.
>
>Will there be any device available to simply replace
>mechanic AH and DG in a unit of similar size?
Hi Michael,
They aren't shipping yet :
( but take a look at the Dynon D-10 at
http://www.dynondevelopment.com/
Gary Liming
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Richard Sipp" <rsipp(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Re: AeroElectric-List: ElectrONic AH and DG? |
> Hello group,
>
> I would like to have gyros or equivalent in my plane,
> but I have not found simple electronic gyros yet.
>
> At one end of the scale, I found a device which
> connects to a PDA so you see attitude information on
> the PDA's screen.
>
In addition to those already mentioned, Sigma Tek, at last year's Oshkosh
(oops Air Venture), was showing prototypes for direct electronic
replacements of the attitude and directional gyros. No information on price
or availability was provided.
Dick Sipp
N250DS
________________________________________________________________________________
Brian Lloyd wrote:
> >*** Heck, it's even easier to buy a new headset. When you come down to
> >it, it's easier to just buy a certificated airplane and write out checks to
> >the FBO.
>
> There is a point of the ridiculous.
*** True. We all make our decision as to where in the spectrum of "easy"
and "creative" we want to be. I'm sorry if I came off flippant.
As I recall, I said I don't like
> dongles and that replacing the mic is probably the most sensible course of
> action.
*** I could respectfully disagree with that. Unless you have a mic that
mounts properly, you're liable to wind up with something flimsy on your
head. IMHO aviation headsets take quite a beating, and everything about
them needs to be robust.
- Jerry Kaidor ( jerry(at)tr2.com )
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Brian Lloyd <brian(at)lloyd.com> |
At 10:00 PM 2/27/2002, you wrote:
>
>Brian Lloyd wrote:
> > >*** Heck, it's even easier to buy a new headset. When you come down to
> > >it, it's easier to just buy a certificated airplane and write out
> checks to
> > >the FBO.
> >
> > There is a point of the ridiculous.
>*** True. We all make our decision as to where in the spectrum of "easy"
>and "creative" we want to be. I'm sorry if I came off flippant.
Yes, I did take it that way. Apology accepted and my apology in return for
being a bit too thin skinned.
> > As I recall, I said I don't like
> > dongles and that replacing the mic is probably the most sensible course of
> > action.
>
>*** I could respectfully disagree with that. Unless you have a mic that
>mounts properly, you're liable to wind up with something flimsy on your
>head. IMHO aviation headsets take quite a beating, and everything about
>them needs to be robust.
Hmm, the mic I mentioned, the Sigtronics M-80H, was a direct replacement
for the mic on my HGU-33 helmet and would directly replace and plug in on
any headset with a David Clark compatible microphone boom. That includes
my old Pilot, David Clark, and Softcomm headsets. YMMV.
Brian Lloyd
brian(at)lloyd.com
+1.530.676.1113 - voice
+1.360.838.9669 - fax
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Gary Casey" <glcasey(at)gte.net> |
| Subject: | Re: AeroElectric-List: ElectrONic AH and DG? |
Just as a point of interest I have designed and received a patent for a
pressure regulator that eliminates the need entirely for a vacuum pump in a
turbocharged aircraft. It uses the various pressures available to create
the pressure difference to operate the gyros. Doesn't replace the gyros
themselves, but does eliminate the need for the vacuum pump, arguably the
least reliable component in the system.
Gary Casey
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Richard
Sipp
Subject: Avionics-List: Re: AeroElectric-List: ElectrONic AH and DG?
> Hello group,
>
> I would like to have gyros or equivalent in my plane,
> but I have not found simple electronic gyros yet.
>
> At one end of the scale, I found a device which
> connects to a PDA so you see attitude information on
> the PDA's screen.
>
In addition to those already mentioned, Sigma Tek, at last year's Oshkosh
(oops Air Venture), was showing prototypes for direct electronic
replacements of the attitude and directional gyros. No information on price
or availability was provided.
Dick Sipp
N250DS
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Michel Therrien <mtherr(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: ElectrONic AH and DG? |
Thanks all for the answers. I'll monitor development
at Dynon.
=====
----------------------------
Michel Therrien CH601-HD
http://pages.infinit.net/mthobby
http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601
http://greetings.yahoo.com
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Annette Coulter" <coulter(at)alaska.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Avionics-List Digest: 12 Msgs - 02/27/02 |
Just for us uneducated Phillistines "YMMV" ?
carl
> From: Brian Lloyd <brian(at)lloyd.com>
> Subject: Re: Avionics-List: Headset ???
> Hmm, the mic I mentioned, the Sigtronics M-80H, was a direct replacement
> for the mic on my HGU-33 helmet and would directly replace and plug in on
> any headset with a David Clark compatible microphone boom. That includes
> my old Pilot, David Clark, and Softcomm headsets. YMMV.
>
>
> Brian Lloyd
> brian(at)lloyd.com
> +1.530.676.1113 - voice
> +1.360.838.9669 - fax
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Brian Lloyd <brian(at)lloyd.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Avionics-List Digest: 12 Msgs - 02/27/02 |
At 08:30 AM 2/28/2002, you wrote:
>
>Just for us uneducated Phillistines "YMMV" ?
It means "your mileage may vary." My apologies for obscuring the
meaning. My only defense is that I have been living on various mailing
list for waaaay too long now (23 years at last reckoning).
Brian Lloyd
brian(at)lloyd.com
+1.530.676.1113 - voice
+1.360.838.9669 - fax
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Jan de Jong <jan.de.jong(at)xs4all.nl> |
Just happened to come across an appropriate link the other day:
http://www.epanorama.net/circuits/dynamic_to_electretinput.html
No guarantees, ofcourse...
Jan de Jong
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Gary & Sandi" <rv9er(at)3rivers.net> |
| Subject: | Electric Attitude Gyros |
Richard: Did you eliminate the RC Allen units in the Aircraft Spruce
Catalog? They are certainly lots more expensive than the vacuum units,
around $1700. The simple turn & bank is lots less money.
I'm with you......no vacuum system for me. Van's Aircraft never uses
them in any of their aircraft, either.
Gary
> Hello group,
>
> I would like to have gyros or equivalent in my plane,
> but I have not found simple electronic gyros yet.
>
> At one end of the scale, I found a device which
> connects to a PDA so you see attitude information on
> the PDA's screen.
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Kevin Shelton" <kevin.shelton(at)cox.net> |
| Subject: | Low Cost Inertial Navigation System |
FYI - to those interested in rolling their own Solid State Gyros or AHARS
with summary of the strap down problem.
http://www.electronic-engineering.ch/study/ins/ins.html
Kevin
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | John Loram <johnl(at)loram.org> |
| Subject: | Nokia cell phone to intercom interface |
I'd like to plug my cell phone into one of the stations on my a/c intercom.
Has anyone seen info about this on the Internet?
thanks, -john-
-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Shelton [mailto:kevin.shelton(at)cox.net]
Subject: Avionics-List: Low Cost Inertial Navigation System
FYI - to those interested in rolling their own Solid State Gyros or AHARS
with summary of the strap down problem.
http://www.electronic-engineering.ch/study/ins/ins.html
Kevin
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Ned Thomas" <nthomas(at)mmcable.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Nokia cell phone to intercom interface |
check out this site or hooking up your cell phone to
yor headset.:
http://moldit.com/safetycell/
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Loram" <johnl(at)loram.org>
Subject: Avionics-List: Nokia cell phone to intercom interface
>
> I'd like to plug my cell phone into one of the stations on my a/c
intercom.
> Has anyone seen info about this on the Internet?
>
> thanks, -john-
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Shelton [mailto:kevin.shelton(at)cox.net]
> To: avionics-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Avionics-List: Low Cost Inertial Navigation System
>
>
>
>
> FYI - to those interested in rolling their own Solid State Gyros or AHARS
> with summary of the strap down problem.
>
> http://www.electronic-engineering.ch/study/ins/ins.html
>
>
> Kevin
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | John Loram <johnl(at)loram.org> |
| Subject: | Nokia cell phone to intercom interface |
thank you, Ned.... Look like just the ticket! -john-
-----Original Message-----
From: Ned Thomas [mailto:nthomas(at)mmcable.com]
Subject: Re: Avionics-List: Nokia cell phone to intercom interface
check out this site or hooking up your cell phone to
yor headset.:
http://moldit.com/safetycell/
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Loram" <johnl(at)loram.org>
Subject: Avionics-List: Nokia cell phone to intercom interface
>
> I'd like to plug my cell phone into one of the stations on my a/c
intercom.
> Has anyone seen info about this on the Internet?
>
> thanks, -john-
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Shelton [mailto:kevin.shelton(at)cox.net]
> To: avionics-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Avionics-List: Low Cost Inertial Navigation System
>
>
>
>
> FYI - to those interested in rolling their own Solid State Gyros or AHARS
> with summary of the strap down problem.
>
> http://www.electronic-engineering.ch/study/ins/ins.html
>
>
> Kevin
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Chris Martin" <cmartin(at)syntheon.com> |
| Subject: | Dual GS in my aircraft |
Hi,
I have a 64 Mooney with an MK-12D with GS and a King KX-175 with GS
receiver. The NAV antenna cable is routed all the way to the back of the
pilot panel where a splitter is used to provide GS output to the MK12 but
the King GS receiver is in the tail of the airplane and it is not connected
to any antenna.
What are my options? Can a single NAV/GS antenna feed two GS receivers?
Where can I learn a little more about guidelines on using aircraft antennas,
splitters, etc.
Thanks,
Chris
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Dual GS in my aircraft |
Chris Martin wrote:
>
>
> I have a 64 Mooney with an MK-12D with GS and a King KX-175 with GS
> receiver. The NAV antenna cable is routed all the way to the back of the
> pilot panel where a splitter is used to provide GS output to the MK12 but
> the King GS receiver is in the tail of the airplane and it is not connected
> to any antenna.
>
> What are my options? Can a single NAV/GS antenna feed two GS receivers?
> Where can I learn a little more about guidelines on using aircraft antennas,
> splitters, etc.
>
*** Yup. You can get a four-way splitter that will feed two NAV's and two
GS receivers. I would just replace the existing three-way splitter with a
four-way unit, and route a new coax back tothe King GS receiver. I'd use
RG400 coax, it will minimize the loss at UHF.
My Sundowner also has two GS receivers. I had my doubts about whether a
four-way splitter would actually work - that's slicing & dicing the RF
pretty fine IMHO, but it seems to work fine...
- Jerry Kaidor ( jerry(at)tr2.com )
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "gretz aero" <warrengretz(at)gretzaero.com> |
"Tailwind-List" ,
"RV-List" ,
"Rocket-List" ,
"Lancair-List" ,
"Glasair-List" ,
"EZ-List" ,
"Avionics-List" ,
"AeroElectric-List"
| Subject: | Gretz Aero website |
Hello Listers,
I would like to invite you to visit my website for many aircraft items
you may be very interested in for your homebuilt. The address is,
http://www.gretzaero.com I hope you find my products and the
information there of interest to you.
Warren Gretz
Gretz Aero
303-770-3811
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Dustin Paulson <dustinp(at)pinenet.com> |
I am building a fiberglass fuselage kitplane that I purchased from
another
builder who started it. He had glassed in several foil antennae,
including a
com in the vertical stabilizer, a marker beacon, and FM antenna in the
belly
of the empenage. Each of these antennae have 3 ceramic rings installed
at the
end of the coax where the foil strips are soldered on. Unfortunately
despite
having laid down a couple layers of old carpeting to protect them, at
least
one ring on each of the belly antennae were broken during my many trips
in
and out of the empenage to install bulkheads.
My question is: Will the loss of these rings affect the performance
significantly enough to warrant trying to replace them, and if so where
would
I get more of the rings, and what would be the best process to replace
them
since they are glassed, and siliconed down? Thanks!
Dustin Paulson
GlaStar Builder
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Brian Lloyd <brian(at)lloyd.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Ceramic Rings |
At 06:02 AM 3/17/2002, you wrote:
>
>... Each of these antennae have 3 ceramic rings installed at the end of
>the coax where the foil strips are soldered on. Unfortunately despite
>having laid down a couple layers of old carpeting to protect them, at
>least one ring on each of the belly antennae were broken during my many
>trips in and out of the empenage to install bulkheads.
>My question is: Will the loss of these rings affect the performance
>significantly enough to warrant trying to replace them, and if so where
>would I get more of the rings, and what would be the best process to
>replace them since they are glassed, and siliconed down? Thanks!
I can't think of what the ceramic rings might be. OTOH, I can imagine
there being ferrite beads there. Are the rings blackish, looking somewhat
like refrigerator magnets? If so, they might be ferrite beads or cores and
would have an effect on how the antenna functions. You would need to
replace them with ones of the same size and composition.
Brian Lloyd
brian(at)lloyd.com
+1.530.676.1113 - voice
+1.360.838.9669 - fax
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Bruce McElhoe" <brucem(at)theworks.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Ceramic Rings |
Dustin,
Ferrite toroids can be purchased from RST Engineering and electronics supply
houses.
http://www.rst-engr.com/
Click on "Antenna Parts". There is also a description of how they work to
block current in the outer shield.
If you have lost only one of three toroids, I expect that the remaining two
are adequate for our purposes. I certainly wouldn't worry about the
marker-beacon antenna.
If you want to add more toroids, remove any connectors and slip the toroids
over the coax transmission line. You don't have to remove any remnants of
the broken toroids.
Bruce McElhoe Long-EZ N64MC
Reedley, California
>
> I am building a fiberglass fuselage kitplane that I purchased from
> another
> builder who started it. He had glassed in several foil antennae,
> including a
> com in the vertical stabilizer, a marker beacon, and FM antenna in the
> belly
> of the empenage. Each of these antennae have 3 ceramic rings installed
> at the
> end of the coax where the foil strips are soldered on. Unfortunately
> despite
> having laid down a couple layers of old carpeting to protect them, at
> least
> one ring on each of the belly antennae were broken during my many trips
> in
> and out of the empenage to install bulkheads.
> My question is: Will the loss of these rings affect the performance
> significantly enough to warrant trying to replace them, and if so where
> would
> I get more of the rings, and what would be the best process to replace
> them
> since they are glassed, and siliconed down? Thanks!
>
> Dustin Paulson
> GlaStar Builder
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Dustin Paulson <dustinp(at)pinenet.com> |
Thanks for the responses Brian, and Bruce. Even though they are kind of a pale
greenish color, I believe these are the ferrite toroids mentioned. I'll check out
the RST site for possible replacement supplies. Thanks again!
> I can't think of what the ceramic rings might be. OTOH, I can imagine
> there being ferrite beads there. Are the rings blackish, looking somewhat
> like refrigerator magnets? If so, they might be ferrite beads or cores and
> would have an effect on how the antenna functions. You would need to
> replace them with ones of the same size and composition.
>
> Brian Lloyd
> brian(at)lloyd.com
> +1.530.676.1113 - voice
> +1.360.838.9669 - fax
>
> From: "Bruce McElhoe" <brucem(at)theworks.com>
> Subject: Re: Avionics-List: Ceramic Rings
>
>
> Dustin,
>
> Ferrite toroids can be purchased from RST Engineering and electronics supply
> houses.
> http://www.rst-engr.com/
> Click on "Antenna Parts". There is also a description of how they work to
> block current in the outer shield.
>
> If you have lost only one of three toroids, I expect that the remaining two
> are adequate for our purposes. I certainly wouldn't worry about the
> marker-beacon antenna.
>
> If you want to add more toroids, remove any connectors and slip the toroids
> over the coax transmission line. You don't have to remove any remnants of
> the broken toroids.
>
> Bruce McElhoe Long-EZ N64MC
> Reedley, California
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Brian Lloyd <brian(at)lloyd.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Ceramic Rings |
At 04:35 AM 3/18/2002, you wrote:
>
>Thanks for the responses Brian, and Bruce. Even though they are kind of a
>pale greenish color, I believe these are the ferrite toroids mentioned.
>I'll check out the RST site for possible replacement supplies. Thanks again!
Be sure you get ferrite material of the same type. There are several
different types of ferrite depending on frequency and purpose. If you get
the wrong type, even if it looks the same, your antenna will not work
properly. Just because RST sells ferrite cores doesn't mean they have
cores made of the correct material. (Unless, of course, you got the
antenna kit from them in the first place and then they are likely to have
the correct parts.)
The problem is similar to the one getting the right material in your
O-rings. You have to get the right stuff depending on what you are sealing.
Brian Lloyd
brian(at)lloyd.com
+1.530.676.1113 - voice
+1.360.838.9669 - fax
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ceramic Rings |
Brian Lloyd wrote:
>
> >Thanks for the responses Brian, and Bruce. Even though they are kind of a
> >pale greenish color, I believe these are the ferrite toroids mentioned.
> >I'll check out the RST site for possible replacement supplies. Thanks again!
>
> Be sure you get ferrite material of the same type. There are several
*** I missed the start of this. Do you have all the pieces? If so,
you can superglue them back together, they'll work just as well. You can
restore their structural integrity with shrink tubing around the perimeter.
I've busted apart ferrite rings and glued them back together on purpose -
because I couldn't get them around a connector.
- Jerry Kaidor ( jerry(at)tr2.com )
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Dustin Paulson <dustinp(at)pinenet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: ferrite rings |
Jerry,
Thanks! I think I actually do have all the pieces. If I do, I'll try
that fix first.
Thanks again.
Dustin Paulson
> Brian Lloyd wrote:
> >
> > >Thanks for the responses Brian, and Bruce. Even though they are
kind of a
> > >pale greenish color, I believe these are the ferrite toroids
mentioned.
> > >I'll check out the RST site for possible replacement supplies.
Thanks again!
> >
> > Be sure you get ferrite material of the same type. There are
several
>
> *** I missed the start of this. Do you have all the pieces? If so,
> you can superglue them back together, they'll work just as well. You
can
> restore their structural integrity with shrink tubing around the
perimeter.
>
> I've busted apart ferrite rings and glued them back together on
purpose -
> because I couldn't get them around a connector.
>
> - Jerry Kaidor ( jerry(at)tr2.com )
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Glenn Rainey <nimbusaviation(at)yahoo.com> |
Does anyone have any feel for the technical challenges
of operating US Loran a/c sets in Europe? My
understanding is that adjacent channel interference
necessitates additional RF filtration, but perhaps
there's more to it. I am keen to experiment with this
gear, now being pulled out of the US fleet and sold
off for peanuts. The ground equipment seems to be
likely to continue in service for some time, and maybe
longer, given events of 9/2001
cheers
Glenn Rainey
Long EZ Scotland
http://movies.yahoo.com/
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Brian Lloyd <brian(at)lloyd.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Loran in Europe |
At 02:54 AM 3/22/2002, you wrote:
>
>Does anyone have any feel for the technical challenges
>of operating US Loran a/c sets in Europe?
They used to work. Mine worked in Europe in 1985 when I flew my Comanche
over there for the Paris Air Show. No problems except a dead spot about
700 nm this side of Ireland.
>My
>understanding is that adjacent channel interference
>necessitates additional RF filtration, but perhaps
>there's more to it.
Most LORAN receivers have good front-end filters. Some have notch filters
to eliminate nearby interference from known sources and those might have to
be retuned for known sources in Europe but I am pretty sure that was from
bargain-basement units. I think the better ones would work anywhere. If
you are contemplating getting a LORAN receiver, get one of the better ones
and talk to the manufacturer. As I said, my Arnav R-40 (IFR-certified)
performed just fine in Europe when I was over there in 1985.
My favorite LORAN unit is the NorthStar M1. There was one in the C-150 I
just sold and it was every bit as accurate and reliable as GPS. It even
acquired and locked up the LORAN signals as quickly as a GPS receiver
acquired the satellites.
>I am keen to experiment with this
>gear, now being pulled out of the US fleet and sold
>off for peanuts. The ground equipment seems to be
>likely to continue in service for some time, and maybe
>longer, given events of 9/2001
For once I think Europe is well advanced over the US. They are planning to
use LORAN to distribute WAAS data for GPS which makes a lot of sense. The
LORAN transmitters are already in place and LORAN provides backup area-nav
should the GPS signal become unavailable (something I am expecting some
smart terrorist to do sooner or later since GPS is so easily jammed).
Brian Lloyd
brian(at)lloyd.com
+1.530.676.1113 - voice
+1.360.838.9669 - fax
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Builder's Bookstore" <winterland(at)rkymtnhi.com> |
| Subject: | Free Thunderbird, Blue Angels videos |
Free Thunderbird, Blue Angels videos
I've got 5 copies of a Thunderbirds / Blue Angles video which we'll give
away for Free to the first 5 people who ask for it along with any other
regular order from Builder's Bookstore.
It's a 50 minute video, 1/2 on the Thunderbirds, and 1/2 on the Blue
Angels. The Thunderbird segment is excellent. The Blue Angels section
is not as good.
To get one, just write FREE THUNDERBIRDS VIDEO in the special
instructions box on the Builder's Bookstore on-line order form, or say
so if you prefer to order something by phone.
Also, in case you are caller #6 or later, note if your regular order
depends on whether there is a free video left to include in your
package.
Andy
Builder's Bookstore
http://buildersbooks.com
800 780-4115
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Glenn Rainey <nimbusaviation(at)yahoo.com> |
Thanks for the posting Brian! In fact I have just
acquired a Northstar M1 and will collect it when I
visit Oshkosh in the summer. After I bought it I
stumbled upon postings somewhere to the effect that it
would not work over here - then I contacted the
manufacturer and was told that the mods were so
radical as to be not worth the trouble. I guess I
will fall back on experimentation here - not much $$
lost if it fails... maybe the equipment works but
unreliably so and hence not 'certifiable' by the
manufacturer....?
Glenn Rainey
Scotland UK
Long-EZ
http://movies.yahoo.com/
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jim Robinson" <jbr(at)hitechnetworks.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Loran in Europe |
>
>
> Thanks for the posting Brian! In fact I have just
> acquired a Northstar M1 and will collect it when I
> visit Oshkosh in the summer. After I bought it I
> stumbled upon postings somewhere to the effect that it
> would not work over here - then I contacted the
> manufacturer and was told that the mods were so
> radical as to be not worth the trouble. I guess I
> will fall back on experimentation here - not much $$
> lost if it fails... maybe the equipment works but
> unreliably so and hence not 'certifiable' by the
> manufacturer....?
>
> Glenn Rainey
> Scotland UK
> Long-EZ
Glenn
We had an M-1 Loran. It was a very nice unit and worked much
better than any of the other brands we had used. I had it a Glasair
and once we found a good location for the antenna (inside) it was
bullet proof. Antenna location was critical. If you can get it
working you will like it.
Jim Robinson
Glasair 79R
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Brian Lloyd <brian(at)lloyd.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Loran in Europe |
On Mon, 25 Mar 2002, Glenn Rainey wrote:
>
> Thanks for the posting Brian! In fact I have just
> acquired a Northstar M1 and will collect it when I
> visit Oshkosh in the summer. After I bought it I
> stumbled upon postings somewhere to the effect that it
> would not work over here - then I contacted the
> manufacturer and was told that the mods were so
> radical as to be not worth the trouble.
My Arnav R-40 did work in Europe when I was there. In talking with the
Arnav volks at OSH last year they even said that you could still get
updates for it unlike its later brothers and it is still certifies for IFR
enroute and terminal nav, at least it is here in the US. You might want
to see if you can find one of those.
Brian Lloyd
brian(at)lloyd.com
+1.530.676.1113
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | brucem(at)olypen.com |
| Subject: | Val Avionics INS 422 |
Anyone have any experience, good or bad, with Val's VOR/LOC/GS/MB
unit? I found no mention in the archives since 5/00 when the unit
was introduced.
Thanks, Bruce
McGregor
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________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jeff Point" <jpoint(at)mindspring.com> |
| Subject: | Bendix/King KMD150 |
I'm looking into the Bendix/King KMD150 GPS moving map. The Bendix
website is pretty scarce on information about this unit. Has anyone
seen any good write-ups of this unit, or any other information on the
web, that they could steer me towards?
Thanks
Jeff Point
-6 fuse, planning panel
Milwaukee WI
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Tom DeMarino <tvd(at)ix.netcom.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Bendix/King KMD150 |
Jeff - Aviation Consumer had an article a couple of months back. Although
they liked the flexibility of the MX-20 better, the price is typical
triple. I concur that the website doesn't really help. -Tom
Has anyone
>seen any good write-ups of this unit, or any other information on the
>web, that they could steer me towards?
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Tom..." <tsled(at)pacbell.net> |
| Subject: | Music to my ears.... |
Hiya Gents,
I am building a single seat helicopter (Helicycle)
http://www.helicycle.com
and I plan on using the MicroAir 760 radio. I have a small digital MP3
player from which I would like to pump music into my headphones but I
don't
want to miss out on any radio calls. I have been told there is a device
out
called "the Muse" by PS Engineering which will do this and
automatically
mute the music during calls. Has anyone used this and can tell me how
well
it works, and/or does anyone have another solution.
Thanks for your time,
Tom...
http://www.aircamp.com/Bandit/Gyroplane.html
http://home.pacbell.net/tsled
.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Wes Warner <wes(at)lppcs.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Music to my ears.... |
I just have the volume low on my mp3player while I'm listening on the
radio. I'm not sure how well it would work in so. cal. with all the
air traffice we have. I thought it would annoy me too much, so I did
it the way I did.
Wes
>
> Hiya Gents,
>
> I am building a single seat helicopter (Helicycle)
> http://www.helicycle.com
> and I plan on using the MicroAir 760 radio. I have a small digital MP3
> player from which I would like to pump music into my headphones but I
> don't
> want to miss out on any radio calls. I have been told there is a device
> out
> called "the Muse" by PS Engineering which will do this and
> automatically
> mute the music during calls. Has anyone used this and can tell me how
> well
> it works, and/or does anyone have another solution.
>
> Thanks for your time,
> Tom...
> http://www.aircamp.com/Bandit/Gyroplane.html
> http://home.pacbell.net/tsled
> .
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Annette-Carline Coulter <coulter(at)gci.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Bendix/King KMD150 |
>
> I'm looking into the Bendix/King KMD150 GPS moving map. The Bendix
> website is pretty scarce on information about this unit. Has anyone
> seen any good write-ups of this unit, or any other information on the
> web, that they could steer me towards?
>
Same one I am looking at. I can't find much at all either. Pictures
look good, and the price is good. But that doesn't say much about how
it works. Doea anybody know how the data update rates are structured?
carl (GS in lots of pieces)
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Gary & Sandi" <rv9er(at)3rivers.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Music to my ears |
Tom......I have been looking at the Muse also. PS Engineering has good
stuff, and are great at product support and service. Another similar
item I have seen is called the Safety Cell. It is actually a "Muse"
type device which will connect your cell phone to the headset, with
muting for priority aircraft radio, and music input. Have a look at
http://moldit.com/safetycell/
I have been using the Microair 760 in my Cygnet for years, and love it.
I plan on getting another for my RV-9, or may wait for the new version
to come out. I just bought a Microair transponder for the new project
as well.
Gary
Hiya Gents,
I am building a single seat helicopter (Helicycle)
http://www.helicycle.com
and I plan on using the MicroAir 760 radio. I have a small digital MP3
player from which I would like to pump music into my headphones but I
don't
want to miss out on any radio calls. I have been told there is a device
out
called "the Muse" by PS Engineering which will do this and
automatically
mute the music during calls. Has anyone used this and can tell me how
well
it works, and/or does anyone have another solution.
Thanks for your time,
Tom...
http://www.aircamp.com/Bandit/Gyroplane.html
http://home.pacbell.net/tsled
.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "B. Jensen" <bjensen(at)integraonline.com> |
I have a KLX-135A GPS-COMM in my airplane. Due to the 9-11 event, and
the cold winter, I have not flown my airplane since last fall. (I did
pickle the engine however) I went out to fly it yesterday, and now
the GPS will not lock onto any satellites. (it worked fine prior to
this)
I think it has lost track of it's almanac due to the long period of
inactivity. Can anyone else think of the best way to reinitialize it,
or have any other ideas? I did sit in the run up area for 15-20
minutes with it, but it never locked on. I did check to make sure the
location, date and time were correct. Has anyone else experienced
similar problems with their GPS's during long periods on inactivity?
BTW, I did a database update several weeks ago.
Thanks,
BJ
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Terry Watson" <terrywatson3(at)attbi.com> |
I remember on one of my early handheld GPS's, you had to give it a hint as
to what part of the world you were in before it could find itself on initial
start-up.
Terry
>
> I have a KLX-135A GPS-COMM in my airplane. Due to the 9-11 event, and
> the cold winter, I have not flown my airplane since last fall. (I did
> pickle the engine however) I went out to fly it yesterday, and now
> the GPS will not lock onto any satellites. (it worked fine prior to
> this)
>
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| From: | "Gary M. Plewa" <gplewa(at)esp.telcordia.com> |
| Subject: | MAC1700 conversion current draw |
Now that MacCoy went TU I can't simply give them a call about
my MAC1700 converted KX-170B. This radio was designed to be a
slide-in replacement to the KX170. However the KX170 has separate
On-Off switches for the Comm and Nav sections, separate power pins
for each with 5A and 2A circuit breaker ratings. The MAC has a
single On-Off switch for the entire radio, which looks like
a SPST on the Comm potentiometer.
Does anyone know if the circuit breaker requirements have
changed when this radio is substituted for the KX-170B it replaced?
(e.g. a single 10A for Comm power in and Nav power in not used)
Gary
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| From: | "Gary M. Plewa" <gplewa(at)esp.telcordia.com> |
| Subject: | ARINC VOR/GS indicators |
I have a Bendix King KX125 NavComm, which has a built-in VOR
converter, coupled to a KN-75 GS receiver. The output from this
combination are all needle and flag outputs, no resolver or
internal VOR converters are required. Bendix King makes a "meter-only"
indicator called a KI-207, which due to it's rarity is almost as
much as a KI-204/209, which has an internal resolver/converter.
King specs say that any ARINC indicator can be driven by both the
KX-125 for VOR and the KN-75 for GS.
What other non King ARINC indicators are available for this
avionics setup? This is for a type-cert plane. In the FAA/Avionics
rule set am I limited strictly to a King indicator?
Gary
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| From: | Brian Lloyd <brian(at)lloyd.com> |
At 07:42 AM 4/5/2002, you wrote:
>I think it has lost track of it's almanac due to the long period of
>inactivity. Can anyone else think of the best way to reinitialize it,
>or have any other ideas?
The GPS receiver just needs to listen to the satellites for a period of
time long enough to get a full ephemeris and almanac feed. Some receivers
need to see the full feed from the beginning. Since a full feed takes
about 22 minutes you need to leave the receiver listening to the birds for
about 45 minutes to be sure of getting a full feed from the
beginning. (Worst case is that you turn the receiver on just moments after
the feed begins and the receiver misses the first few frames and has to
listen to the whole thing twice.)
So drag the airplane out into the open, turn on the receiver, and go to
lunch. It should be fine when you get back.
Brian Lloyd
brian(at)lloyd.com
+1.530.676.1113 - voice
+1.360.838.9669 - fax
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| From: | "BUCK AND GLORIA BUCHANAN" <glastar(at)3rivers.net> |
I'm going to install a GPS antenna to the top of my fuselage on a Glastar.
Is there a universal antenna and if so what is it? What is the best way to
install it; epoxy, screws, or what.
TIA Buck Buchanan, Valier, MT
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Brian Lloyd <brian(at)lloyd.com> |
On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, BUCK AND GLORIA BUCHANAN wrote:
>
> I'm going to install a GPS antenna to the top of my fuselage on a Glastar.
> Is there a universal antenna and if so what is it? What is the best way to
> install it; epoxy, screws, or what.
Some receivers need an amplified antenna and some don't. You need to know
what type of antenna your particular recevier needs. The mounting will be
what the antenna demands.
Brian Lloyd
brian(at)lloyd.com
+1.530.676.1113
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| From: | Brian Lloyd <brian(at)lloyd.com> |
| Subject: | Re: ARINC VOR/GS indicators |
At 09:07 AM 4/5/2002, you wrote:
>
>
>I have a Bendix King KX125 NavComm, which has a built-in VOR
>converter, coupled to a KN-75 GS receiver. The output from this
>combination are all needle and flag outputs, no resolver or
>internal VOR converters are required. Bendix King makes a "meter-only"
>indicator called a KI-207, which due to it's rarity is almost as
>much as a KI-204/209, which has an internal resolver/converter.
>King specs say that any ARINC indicator can be driven by both the
>KX-125 for VOR and the KN-75 for GS.
>
>What other non King ARINC indicators are available for this
>avionics setup? This is for a type-cert plane. In the FAA/Avionics
>rule set am I limited strictly to a King indicator?
No. You can use any indicator that has the proper set of needles and flags
and has the proper resistance and sensitivity (most do). I used an old
Bendix indicator with my GPS receiver. It works just fine. Check your
local aircraft junkyard.
Brian Lloyd
brian(at)lloyd.com
+1.530.676.1113 - voice
+1.360.838.9669 - fax
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| From: | "Bruce McElhoe" <brucem(at)theworks.com> |
| Subject: | Atomic Clock (Off topic) |
Hi all,
Here's an off-topic question for an electronics mind. How did my "Atomic
Clock" know to change to daylight-savings time? How does it know to display
Pacific time?
This is the wall clock you have seen advertised. It has absolutely no
manual inputs....plug in a battery and it goes. It claims to listen to WWV,
but that would not account for location. I thought maybe it contains a GPS
receiver, but that would not account for daylight-savings time.
Anybody know?
Bruce McElhoe Long-EZ N64MC
Reedley, California
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Brian Lloyd <brian(at)lloyd.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Atomic Clock (Off topic) |
At 12:21 PM 4/7/2002, you wrote:
>
>Hi all,
>
>Here's an off-topic question for an electronics mind. How did my "Atomic
>Clock" know to change to daylight-savings time?
That one is easy. It knows time and date from the WWVB transmissions and
the daylight savings time conversions always occur on the same weekend
every year so it is a pretty simple job for software. Remember, the WWVB
time code includes date as well as time.
>How does it know to display Pacific time?
That one is tougher. I would guess someone has to tell it that but I don't
know. Did you have to tell it how many hours plus/minus it is from
UTC? That would imply time zone.
>This is the wall clock you have seen advertised. It has absolutely no
>manual inputs....plug in a battery and it goes. It claims to listen to WWV,
>but that would not account for location. I thought maybe it contains a GPS
>receiver, but that would not account for daylight-savings time.
Well, most of them listen to WWVB on 60 KHz. GPS would be pretty easy to
do since it has to synch its internal clock to the satellites resulting a
very accurate local clock set to zulu time (UTC). Since it also knows
position it knows what time zone it is in. As for daylight savings time,
that happens on the same weekends every year so you just need to set the
software to change on that date and time.
Brian Lloyd
brian(at)lloyd.com
+1.530.676.1113 - voice
+1.360.838.9669 - fax
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I have two of them at work and they're great.
Both have the same time to the second.
There are four buttons to select your time zone.
They do not constantly monitor the time from WWV. It takes quite a few hours
for them to set themselves.
I believe there is a certain signal that is sent a few times a day. I am on
the East coast and the signal is easier to receive at night because of
atmospheric conditions.
Steve
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| From: | "Chuck Deiterich" <cfd(at)tstar.net> |
My Westach CHT gauge came with 14mm diameter type J probes. I need 12mm
diameter for my spark plugs (Jabiru 2200). Aircraft Spruce has some UMA
CHT 12mm diameter type J probes. Is type J all that is needed for these
to work on my Westach?
Chuck D.
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| From: | Buzzie88(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Bendix/King KMD150 |
Guys,
I installed a KMD-150 in my Bonanza and it is a great piece of equipment. It
is easy to use in flight with the joystick controller and the color moving
map is bright and clear. Since it is a VFR only unit, it makes a nice backup
to the legal stuff on IFR flights. I highly recommend it and am going to put
one in the Lancair ES I'm building.
Buz
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| From: | Brian Lloyd <brian(at)lloyd.com> |
At 06:05 AM 4/9/2002, you wrote:
>
>My Westach CHT gauge came with 14mm diameter type J probes. I need 12mm
>diameter for my spark plugs (Jabiru 2200). Aircraft Spruce has some UMA
>CHT 12mm diameter type J probes. Is type J all that is needed for these
>to work on my Westach?
Yes.
Brian Lloyd
brian(at)lloyd.com
+1.530.676.1113 - voice
+1.360.838.9669 - fax
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | 39 ASEW/E32/AC1 <39asew.e32.ac1(at)incirlik.af.mil> |
Yes, J-type is all that you need. Call Westech here's their website.
http://www.frostalarm.com/cat/p32.html. That's the link directly to their
J-type EGT probes. It sounds like you need the 712-8WK type. My research
showed that Aircraft Spruce beats Westsburgs pricing (Actually Spruce buys
the stuff from Westburg at wholesale then sells it to us the public for a
smaller mark-up). I also found that Spruce doesn't carry the whole westech
line. The 12mm probe may not be available from Spruce. Westburg will have
it for sure and can ship same day.
Rick Blaes
RV-4 Builder
-----Original Message-----
From: Chuck Deiterich [mailto:cfd(at)tstar.net]
Subject: Avionics-List: CHT Probes
My Westach CHT gauge came with 14mm diameter type J probes. I need 12mm
diameter for my spark plugs (Jabiru 2200). Aircraft Spruce has some UMA
CHT 12mm diameter type J probes. Is type J all that is needed for these
to work on my Westach?
Chuck D.
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| From: | "Gary M. Plewa" <gplewa(at)esp.telcordia.com> |
| Subject: | King molex connetors and pins |
The newer King avionics use crimped on pins which snap into
nylon card edge connectors. The crimping tool has a Molex
part number so I am guessing that these are Molex connectors.
Are these proprietary parts? I need a few pins and it seems
that other than purchasing an "install kit" from Bendix/King
they cannot be had from any of the electronics supply catalogs.
Anyone know of an alternate source?
Gary
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | ROBINFLY(at)aol.com |
Lately, I saw a lot of overhauled 300XL and KLN89B for sale at a very low
price. Before I invest my money, can I get some feed back from some of you
who actually had these units installed in your plane? Specifically the
following:
Do they require installation of annunciator panels since 430 and KLN94 do not
require annunciator panels any longer?
I have read somewhere that both 300XL and 89B now have all approach waypoints
including ILS approach. Does that mean they have the ILS monitor function as
430 and KLN94 or just waypoints?
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Bruce Boyes <bboyes(at)systronix.com> |
| Subject: | Re: King molex connetors and pins |
>
>
>The newer King avionics use crimped on pins which snap into
>nylon card edge connectors. The crimping tool has a Molex
>part number so I am guessing that these are Molex connectors.
>Are these proprietary parts? I need a few pins and it seems
>that other than purchasing an "install kit" from Bendix/King
>they cannot be had from any of the electronics supply catalogs.
DigiKey carries some Molex parts (don't know about these specific ones).
You could try taking the connectors into a local electronics supply place
and see if they have any matching.
Bruce
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| From: | "Gary & Sandi" <rv9er(at)3rivers.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Avionics-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 04/12/02 |
Gary.......Try Mouser. They have a good selection of pins and housings
for Molex connectors. www.mouser.com
Gary
_______
From: "Gary M. Plewa" <gplewa(at)esp.telcordia.com>
Subject: Avionics-List: King molex connetors and pins
The newer King avionics use crimped on pins which snap into
nylon card edge connectors. The crimping tool has a Molex
part number so I am guessing that these are Molex connectors.
Are these proprietary parts? I need a few pins and it seems
that other than purchasing an "install kit" from Bendix/King
they cannot be had from any of the electronics supply catalogs.
Anyone know of an alternate source?
Gary
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jeff Point" <jpoint(at)mindspring.com> |
| Subject: | Re: (no subject) |
> Lately, I saw a lot of overhauled 300XL and KLN89B for sale at a very low
> price. Before I invest my money, can I get some feed back from some of
you
> who actually had these units installed in your plane? Specifically the
> following:
>
What kind of prices have you seen, and where? What are reputable sources of
overhauled avionics?
Jeff Point
RV-6 finish kit coming, planning panel
Milwaukee WI
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| From: | "Chris Martin" <cmartin(at)syntheon.com> |
| Subject: | King 175 rack connector |
I have a King 175 nav/com and one of the contacts in the card edge connector
on the rack broke. Does anyone know if this contacts can be individually
replaced (it doesn't look like) and where could I get replacement parts for
this.
Regards,
Chris
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Avionics" <hk53(at)his.com> |
| Subject: | King KX-175 rack connector |
The pins are individually replaceable, and you already have spares. Not all
the pins are used on that connector. Look at the pin below where the wire
solders on and you'll see the pin is held in by a small tab that's bent to
prevent the pin from sliding out.
Gently bend the tab of one of the unused pins down, and slide it out the
front of the connector. Now remove your broken pin and insert the new pin.
Bend the tab back up and you're finished.
David Buckwalter
Avionics Systems, LLC.
> I have a King 175 nav/com and one of the contacts in the card edge
connector
> on the rack broke. Does anyone know if this contacts can be individually
> replaced (it doesn't look like) and where could I get replacement parts
for
> this.
>
> Regards,
> Chris
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| From: | "Chris Martin" <cmartin(at)syntheon.com> |
| Subject: | RE: King KX-175 rack connector |
Thanks David.
I'll do as you describe. Interestingly, the pin that is broken is the unit's
ground (it completely broke off). The radio works perfect so I guess that it
is just finding some other way to ground (oh! oh!). I'll take the rack out
and perform the repair.
Thanks,
Chris
> From: "Avionics" <hk53(at)his.com>
> Subject: Avionics-List: King KX-175 rack connector
>
>
> The pins are individually replaceable, and you already have
> spares. Not all
> the pins are used on that connector. Look at the pin below where the wire
> solders on and you'll see the pin is held in by a small tab that's bent to
> prevent the pin from sliding out.
>
> Gently bend the tab of one of the unused pins down, and slide it out the
> front of the connector. Now remove your broken pin and insert
> the new pin.
> Bend the tab back up and you're finished.
>
> David Buckwalter
> Avionics Systems, LLC.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Sanders, Andrew P" <andrew.p.sanders(at)boeing.com> |
"'avionics-list(at)matronics.com'"
| Subject: | Transmit problem |
Not sure if this question is better addressed in the aeroelectric or
avionics lists so here it goes to both.
I have two TKM navcom replacements for Cessna ARC radios. They work very
well and I'm happy with them. They were in the airplane when I bought it
several years ago and I'd buy them again if I needed inexpensive
replacements.
I have had a problem a few times lately where when both units are on and I
transmit on one, I can barely hear it in the headset and others report
hearing a carrier but no modulation. If I power off either one of the
radios, transmitting works fine. This is intermittant and goes away after a
half hour or so. Of course, I haven't been able to duplicate this on the
ground. Both radios have been sent off for tuneup by TKM, arrived back
yellow tagged.
Poking around, there are a couple of relays that I wonder if are associated
with the problem. First, there is factory "patch panel" that gathers
various avionics wiring, such as audio in/out, grounds, etc. On this board
is a relay Potter-Brumfield KHP17D11. Without detatching the board from the
firewall and tracing the wiring on the back, I don't know what it does.
I've been checking to see if I could find a replacement and it is obsoleate
and unavailable.
There is a second relay in the wire bundle behind the instrument panel,
Potter-Brumfield #R10-E1Y2-V185. It is a DPDT unit that looks like is wired
to buffer between the PPT's and the avionics. It seems that instead of
having the PPT's in parallel to the "patch panel" they in parallel to the
relay that then grounds the "tip" line to the avionics.
This one is available and inexpensive.
The problem kinda "feels" like a something sticking and these seem like
likly suspects, but I don't want to trouble shoot by throwing parts at it.
Any ideas? Am I even going in the right direction?
Thanks,
Andrew
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Gary Kozinski" <KOZINSKI(at)symbol.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Transmit problem |
Andrew,
Have you tried swaping the top and bottom radios? I have the same TKM's...1-720,
1-760 ch. The only problem I have every had was with decreased sensitivity,
but for $80, I got the tune-up from TKM with great service.
I would be cautious about picking and poking and spending money you may not need
to spend. What type of plane? (Mine's a 172) If you are getting a "carrier"
w/o modulation, then the radio is going into Transmit but the mic audio is
not connecting. Check your mic connections. Clean up the male plugs with some
fine sand paper...or just plug them in-an-out a few times. If you have anything
else in the line, remove it. Such as a intercom box. Go back to the basic's...such
as when the problem exist...use the external mic vs. a headset. Eliminate
all the periperals and start with a bare system. Once that works, then
start plugging in the extra's. If all this fails, then start to shake, rattle
and roll all the connections.
Let us know how you make out. Don't forget to fly the plane first.
Gary
k1gk(at)arrl.net
>>> andrew.p.sanders(at)boeing.com 04/17/02 06:55PM >>>
Not sure if this question is better addressed in the aeroelectric or
avionics lists so here it goes to both.
I have two TKM navcom replacements for Cessna ARC radios. They work very
well and I'm happy with them. They were in the airplane when I bought it
several years ago and I'd buy them again if I needed inexpensive
replacements.
I have had a problem a few times lately where when both units are on and I
transmit on one, I can barely hear it in the headset and others report
hearing a carrier but no modulation. If I power off either one of the
radios, transmitting works fine. This is intermittant and goes away after a
half hour or so. Of course, I haven't been able to duplicate this on the
ground. Both radios have been sent off for tuneup by TKM, arrived back
yellow tagged.
Poking around, there are a couple of relays that I wonder if are associated
with the problem. First, there is factory "patch panel" that gathers
various avionics wiring, such as audio in/out, grounds, etc. On this board
is a relay Potter-Brumfield KHP17D11. Without detatching the board from the
firewall and tracing the wiring on the back, I don't know what it does.
I've been checking to see if I could find a replacement and it is obsoleate
and unavailable.
There is a second relay in the wire bundle behind the instrument panel,
Potter-Brumfield #R10-E1Y2-V185. It is a DPDT unit that looks like is wired
to buffer between the PPT's and the avionics. It seems that instead of
having the PPT's in parallel to the "patch panel" they in parallel to the
relay that then grounds the "tip" line to the avionics.
This one is available and inexpensive.
The problem kinda "feels" like a something sticking and these seem like
likly suspects, but I don't want to trouble shoot by throwing parts at it.
Any ideas? Am I even going in the right direction?
Thanks,
Andrew
________________________________________________________________________________
"'aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com'" ,
"'avionics-list(at)matronics.com'"
| From: | Tom DeMarino <tvd(at)ix.netcom.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Transmit problem |
>
>I have had a problem a few times lately where when both units are on and I
>transmit on one, I can barely hear it in the headset and others report
>hearing a carrier but no modulation. If I power off either one of the
>radios, transmitting works fine. This is intermittant and goes away after a
>half hour or so. Of course, I haven't been able to duplicate this on the
>ground. Both radios have been sent off for tuneup by TKM, arrived back
>yellow tagged.
The fact that they work when one is turned off leads me to believe you have
a grounding problem. When you turn one off, you complete the ground for
the other one. I would inspect those bundles under the instrument panel
and check the grounds (or clean them up and re-install). That would be my
first guess... -TOm
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Brian Stanley <brianstanley(at)shaw.ca> |
| Subject: | Antenna Identification |
The V antenna on the tail of my aircraft goes through a splitter and is
connected to both the VOR and ILS inputs on my Narco Nav122. Is that
correct? Can this type of antenna be used for both VOR and ILS and is
there a simple way of checking if its working?
On the belly of the aircraft is a small boat shaped antenna (sorry for
the technical description) which is connected to the marker beacon of
the Nav122, is that correct?
There is also a small shark fin shaped antenna on the belly which isn't
connected to anything! What purpose would that normally serve?
Thanks
Brian
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Antenna Identification |
Brian Stanley wrote:
>
>
> The V antenna on the tail of my aircraft goes through a splitter and is
> connected to both the VOR and ILS inputs on my Narco Nav122. Is that
> correct? Can this type of antenna be used for both VOR and ILS and is
> there a simple way of checking if its working?
>
*** Yes, this is a common arrangement. The splitter should say - on its
body "NAV" "GS" or somesuch. I have a single V antenna feeding two NAV
receivers and two GS receivers.
> On the belly of the aircraft is a small boat shaped antenna (sorry for
> the technical description) which is connected to the marker beacon of
> the Nav122, is that correct?
*** Yup, that's also common.
>
> There is also a small shark fin shaped antenna on the belly which isn't
> connected to anything! What purpose would that normally serve?
>
*** Those are usually either DME or transponder antennas.
- Jerry Kaidor ( jerry(at)tr2.com )
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Aucountry(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Antenna Identification |
In a message dated 4/20/02 07:29:40 PM, jerry(at)tr2.com writes:
<< > The V antenna on the tail of my aircraft goes through a splitter and is
> connected to both the VOR and ILS inputs on my Narco Nav122. Is that
> correct? Can this type of antenna be used for both VOR and ILS and is
> there a simple way of checking if its working?
> >>
I heard this splitter is no longe available and that I couldn't do it on my
plane.
Gary
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Gary Plewa <gplewa(at)esp.telcordia.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Antenna Identification |
In a message dated 4/20/02 10:39:40 PM, Aucountry(at)aol.com writes:
>I heard this splitter is no longe available and that I couldn't do it on my
>plane.
How about the Comant CI-507 Singe VOR/GS Diplexer?? P/N 11-17980
from Aircraft Spruce. There also splitters for 1 Nav antenna into
2 VOR receivers -AND- 1 GS receiver. I don't knw who told you this
but I'll guess they had an extra GS antenna they wanted to sell .
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Brian Lloyd <brian(at)lloyd.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Antenna Identification |
>
>In a message dated 4/20/02 10:39:40 PM, Aucountry(at)aol.com writes:
> >I heard this splitter is no longe available and that I couldn't do it on my
> >plane.
>
>How about the Comant CI-507 Singe VOR/GS Diplexer?? P/N 11-17980
>from Aircraft Spruce. There also splitters for 1 Nav antenna into
>2 VOR receivers -AND- 1 GS receiver. I don't knw who told you this
>but I'll guess they had an extra GS antenna they wanted to sell .
Unless he has a towel-bar NAV antenna.
I recently re-radioed and re-antenna-ed my Aztec. I purchased a towel-bar
VOR/LOC antenna that I was assured would also work for the glideslope as
well by both the seller AND the manufacturer. It does an excellent job of
rejecting all signals in the GS band. I had to retrofit a GS antenna
also. This turned out to be an interesting issue with the new SL-30 NAV/COM.
Turns out that, unlike every other NAV/GS I have every worked with, the
SL-30 has a single input for the combined GS and VOR/LOC signal. This is
just great if you have both the GS and VOR/LOC signal already coming from
one antenna. Turns out you can use a diplexer (splits combined VOR/LOC/GS
signal into separate VOR/LOC and GS signals) to combine separate GS and
VOR/LOC into a combined input for the SL-30.
So I ended up with separate VOR/LOC and GS splitters to provide separate
signals for the KNS-80 #2 NAV with the other sides of the splitters feeding
the diplexer to provide a single combined signal for the SL-30.
BTW, the SL-30 is a truly awesome NAV/COM. I must admit I have developed a
fondness for the Apollo slimline radios from UPSAT.
Brian Lloyd
brian(at)lloyd.com
+1.530.676.1113 - voice
+1.360.838.9669 - fax
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| From: | "Gary Kozinski" <KOZINSKI(at)symbol.com> |
What are the pro's/con's of the various panel mount intercoms out there today?
I'm leaning towards a basic Sigtronics SPA-400 for $200 but don't know if it
worth the extra $100 for the SAS-440 w/auto squelch. Is it worth sticking with
a portable unit like the Pilot for $120 though I'm seeking to bury the wires
before I get a new interior in August.
I have been using an RST 4 pl intercom in my 172 for almost 20 years with great
results. The squelch is a bit tricky which is driving my wife nuts as it cuts
in and out. So it's time to moderize a bit.
I welcome the groups comments.
Gary 172K
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| From: | Brian Stanley <brianstanley(at)shaw.ca> |
| Subject: | Antenna Connection |
Can anyone advise me how to connect my V shaped antenna which has two
connection posts on it (one on each ear)to the coax cable. Does the
signal wire split and go to both connections and the coax shield ground
on the airframe or does the signal go to one connector and the shield to
the other.
Thanks
Brian
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| From: | Brian Lloyd <brian(at)lloyd.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Antenna Connection |
At 07:24 PM 4/23/2002, you wrote:
>
>Can anyone advise me how to connect my V shaped antenna which has two
>connection posts on it (one on each ear)to the coax cable. Does the
>signal wire split and go to both connections and the coax shield ground
>on the airframe or does the signal go to one connector and the shield to
>the other.
Normally there is a coaxial balun that splits the signal so that it is
applied to both legs of the of the antenna equally. It consists of a 1/2
wavelength piece of coax that goes from one leg of the antenna to the other.
Brian Lloyd
brian(at)lloyd.com
+1.530.676.1113 - voice
+1.360.838.9669 - fax
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| From: | Dustin Paulson <dustinp(at)pinenet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Avionics-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 04/23/02 |
Avionics-List Digest Server wrote:
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> Gary,
I just got my issue of the Aviation Consumer 2002 Buyers Guide last week. It's
kind of like consumer reports, in that it doesn't have any advertisements, and
so is supposed to be giving as un biased a report as possible.
In it there is a review of stand alone intercoms. The review consisted of intercoms
from: PS Engineering, NAT, DRE, Flightcom, Sigtronics, David Clark, and Softcom
Their advice was to list the features that are most important to you and then shop
price, since in terms of raw performance, the intercoms tested were all very
close in capability.
That being said, they went on to say that in their estimation they leaned toward
the products from PS Engineering, and NAT simply because both companies have
been in the intercom business for quite awhile, and tend to be on the cutting
edge in audio circuitry, as well as provided good technical support during installation.
DRE's offerings, especially the
244E are quite impressive as well, but the model Symphony 468 was to pricey for
this crowd except for high end aircraft flown by stereophiles.
In their conclusion, they said that they did not mean to diminish the offerings
from the other manufactures listed, all of whom make excellent products, but
at some point they had to make a recommendation, and for the reasons mentioned
above they gave the nod to PS Engineering, NAT, and DRE, in that order. Hope
that helps in your decision
Dustin Paulson
>
> From: "Gary Kozinski" <KOZINSKI(at)symbol.com>
> Subject: Avionics-List: Intercoms?
>
>
> What are the pro's/con's of the various panel mount intercoms out there today?
I'm leaning towards a basic Sigtronics SPA-400 for $200 but don't know if it
worth the extra $100 for the SAS-440 w/auto squelch. Is it worth sticking
with a portable unit like the Pilot for $120 though I'm seeking to bury the wires
before I get a new interior in August.
>
> I have been using an RST 4 pl intercom in my 172 for almost 20 years with great
results. The squelch is a bit tricky which is driving my wife nuts as it cuts
in and out. So it's time to moderize a bit.
>
> I welcome the groups comments.
>
> Gary 172K
>
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| From: | brucem(at)olypen.com |
Check out avweb.com and the avionics reviews by Avionics West. The
reviewer raved about the intercom module in PS Engineering's audio
panels. I plan to use the PMA 4000 in my GlaStar in part to obtain
the intercom. Check with PSE to see if they use the same circuitry
in their straight intercoms.
Regards, Bruce
McGregor
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| From: | Brian Lloyd <brian(at)lloyd.com> |
At 08:00 AM 4/23/2002, you wrote:
>
>
>What are the pro's/con's of the various panel mount intercoms out there
>today? I'm leaning towards a basic Sigtronics SPA-400 for $200 but don't
>know if it worth the extra $100 for the SAS-440 w/auto squelch. Is it
>worth sticking with a portable unit like the Pilot for $120 though I'm
>seeking to bury the wires before I get a new interior in August.
I have used the Sigtronics SPA-400 in several aircraft. I do not
particularly like it. I received the SAS-440 as a gift and installed
it. I disliked it so much I paid to have it removed and threw it away. I
replaced it with a PM-501 intercom from PS Engineering which I liked *very*
much. As a result, I have used PS Engineering's intercoms and audio panels
in several aircraft now and have had stellar results from all their products.
Brian Lloyd
brian(at)lloyd.com
+1.530.676.1113 - voice
+1.360.838.9669 - fax
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| From: | Bill Irvine <wgirvine(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Antenna Connection |
>
>
> Can anyone advise me how to connect my V shaped
> antenna which has two
> connection posts on it (one on each ear)to the coax
> cable. Does the
> signal wire split and go to both connections and the
> coax shield ground
> on the airframe or does the signal go to one
> connector and the shield to
> the other.
> Thanks
> Brian
What? You don't have a copy of AC43-13? How can you
build an airplane without it? It's not perfect, but
it has a lot of good info. Such as how to hook up
coax cable to your VOR antenna...
AC43-13-2A, Chapter 3 Antenna Installations. Figures
3.9 and 3.10 show you how to do it. Oddly enough, the
center conductor isn't connected to the antenna at
all, just the shield. Weird stuff, RF.
Bill Irvine
C-310
http://games.yahoo.com/
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| From: | Michel Therrien <mtherr(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | 2-1/4" Becker or Microair....? |
Hello friends,
Well well well... I was looking at the balance in my
bank account and determined that if I want to order my
transponder, I should do it soon (before we get crazy
as we do each spring and spend everything we have ;-).
I am hesitating between the Microair T2000 and the
Becker 4401.
The buttons appear to be easier to operate with the
Becker unit. As well, the LCD screen of the Becker
appears to be easier to read than the Microair's LCD
screen.
However, the Becker I would buy is rated 175 watts
(which I'm not sure what it means). The Microair is
rated 200 watts nominal (170 watts minimum).
Any other considerations? What's the track record of
both companies in terms of quality of product (I know
I only read good things so far about Microair).
Is 170-175 watts enough for that type of device?
Thanks!
Michel
=====
----------------------------
Michel Therrien CH601-HD
http://pages.infinit.net/mthobby
http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601
http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/mthobby
http://games.yahoo.com/
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| From: | "Neil McLeod" <bedrock(at)theriver.com> |
| Subject: | Re: 2-1/4" Becker or Microair....? |
Becker radios are common in the sailplane community with an excellent
reputation. I personally had one in a sailplane I owned for 10 years. It had
no problems and outstanding transmission and reception quality.
Neil McLeod
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michel Therrien" <mtherr(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Avionics-List: 2-1/4" Becker or Microair....?
>
> Hello friends,
>
> Well well well... I was looking at the balance in my
> bank account and determined that if I want to order my
> transponder, I should do it soon (before we get crazy
> as we do each spring and spend everything we have ;-).
>
> I am hesitating between the Microair T2000 and the
> Becker 4401.
>
> The buttons appear to be easier to operate with the
> Becker unit. As well, the LCD screen of the Becker
> appears to be easier to read than the Microair's LCD
> screen.
>
> However, the Becker I would buy is rated 175 watts
> (which I'm not sure what it means). The Microair is
> rated 200 watts nominal (170 watts minimum).
>
> Any other considerations? What's the track record of
> both companies in terms of quality of product (I know
> I only read good things so far about Microair).
>
> Is 170-175 watts enough for that type of device?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Michel
>
>
> =====
> ----------------------------
> Michel Therrien CH601-HD
> http://pages.infinit.net/mthobby
> http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601
> http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/mthobby
>
> http://games.yahoo.com/
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Russell Williams" <rw_flyer(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: 2-1/4" Becker or Microair....? |
I've installed both the Becker COM and the transponder in my Cessna 165. In
the case of the transponder I used the version that is a blind transciver
box with remote-mounted control head due to panel depth restrictions, but
the control panels for the remote and the single-unit boxes are identical.
The Becker units are pricy but they've given great service. The displays
are highly readable and the concentric tuning knobs are set up like a full
sized COM or transponder. The knobs click with authority and feel "solid".
For the transponder the Becker also includes a readout of reported altitude.
Becker USA was very helpful when I called them with an installation
question, and they faxed me the manuals before I purchased for a suitability
evaluation. The transponder install kit had high quality parts with
crimp-pin insertable connector. The connector is a DB-25, but unfortunately
the connectors use a backshell and locking hardware setup that I can't find
anywhere in the US. This was a problem since I bought the COM used and it
came without the connector kit, but Becker sent me a new one at no charge.
I haven't used the Microair transponder but have used the 760 COM. It works
ok but I dislike the front panel display and the toggle switches. Personal
opinion but for me it just feels more cleaply made in terms of fit and
finish. The Microair COM does require less panel depth than the Becker
unless you use the remote-mounted control heads from Becker.
TSO for the Becker units made for less hassle with the FAA since my planes
are old but certified. The Microair transponder says it is TSO'ed but the
COM is not, at least not the version I have.
>From: "Neil McLeod" <bedrock(at)theriver.com>
>Reply-To: avionics-list(at)matronics.com
>To:
>Subject: Re: Avionics-List: 2-1/4" Becker or Microair....?
>Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 10:00:32 -0700
>
>
>Becker radios are common in the sailplane community with an excellent
>reputation. I personally had one in a sailplane I owned for 10 years. It
>had
>no problems and outstanding transmission and reception quality.
>
>Neil McLeod
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Michel Therrien" <mtherr(at)yahoo.com>
>To: ;
>Subject: Avionics-List: 2-1/4" Becker or Microair....?
>
>
> >
> > Hello friends,
> >
> > Well well well... I was looking at the balance in my
> > bank account and determined that if I want to order my
> > transponder, I should do it soon (before we get crazy
> > as we do each spring and spend everything we have ;-).
> >
> > I am hesitating between the Microair T2000 and the
> > Becker 4401.
> >
> > The buttons appear to be easier to operate with the
> > Becker unit. As well, the LCD screen of the Becker
> > appears to be easier to read than the Microair's LCD
> > screen.
> >
> > However, the Becker I would buy is rated 175 watts
> > (which I'm not sure what it means). The Microair is
> > rated 200 watts nominal (170 watts minimum).
> >
> > Any other considerations? What's the track record of
> > both companies in terms of quality of product (I know
> > I only read good things so far about Microair).
> >
> > Is 170-175 watts enough for that type of device?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Michel
> >
> >
> > =====
> > ----------------------------
> > Michel Therrien CH601-HD
> > http://pages.infinit.net/mthobby
> > http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601
> > http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/mthobby
> >
> > http://games.yahoo.com/
> >
> >
>
>
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| From: | "Sanders, Andrew P" <andrew.p.sanders(at)boeing.com> |
| Subject: | DRE-404e Portable intercom for sale |
I'm ready to upgrade to a new DRE panel mount intercom and would like to
sell my DRE-404e portable. I've been very happy with it's performance,
that's why I'm staying with DRE for the new one. It lists for $400 at
Aircraft Spruce. I'm asking $300 for it.
Andrew Sanders
(H) ap.sand(at)gte.net
(H) 425-788-5209
(W) andrew.p.sanders(at)boeing.com
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| From: | "Andrea Vavassori" <andrea(at)modelberg.com> |
| Subject: | De-lurking & info request.. |
Hello to all!
Just coming out of my limbo for some very easy questions :-)
A friend of mine handed me over a couple of old radios, asking me if I
could build a couple of unicom base stations around them. One is a King
KX-160 COMM/NAV, with its associated KS-505 high-voltage power supply,
and the other is a Bendix RT-241B COMM.
1) Of course, I have nothing but the radios themselves. Has anyone a
pinout for the connectors of both?
2) The King also misses its connectors. Which kind are these, and where
could I find them?
3) In order to use the King on 14V instead of 28V, is it enough to flip
the voltage switch and change the fuses on the power supply, or am I
missing something else?
Thanks!
Andrea
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| From: | MMMARKMM(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Your password |
you are sending out a virus. It is in the form of a blank email with no text
and a zip attachment.
thought you'd like to know.
Mark
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| From: | Rowland & Wilma Carson <rowil(at)clara.net> |
| Subject: | electrical connections on an air-driven gyro |
There doesn't seem to be much traffic on this avionics list. Perhaps
some of the folk quietly lurking out there have knowledge that would
help me.
I have acquired second-hand an air-driven directional gyro that I'd
like to use in the panel of my Europa. It came from G-BGTP which was
a Robin HR100/210 serial no 188 built 1974. The DG is a Badin Crouzet
910, and it has a plate with the markings Serial 174 Date 7 72 Ref
33440 Alimentation 15 pz Sortie 9 72. It has a heading bug, and an
electrical connector on the rear (4-pole Souriau 851-02E-8-4 P-8, for
which I have acquired the mating connector 851-06EC8-4S50). The
vendor assured me the port was for an autopilot. I have tried to find
out more about the makers (if they are still in the business!) on the
internet but so far have not had much luck.
I am hoping that the electrical interface on DGs might be standard
(or maybe the French do not think the same!) and that I could perhaps
put together some sort of wing leveller that would work in the
Europa. Many folk have added the simple Navaid autopilot to Europas,
and I'm wondering if there might be some way to interface that with
the DG output.
I've put an ohm-meter across the various terminals on the port and
can post the results here if that's of any use. I'm not expecting a
complete how-to recipe, but if I could find the specification of the
DG interface, or what it would expect to be connected to, that might
help me determine how I could use it.
If I can't do anything with the electrical interface, oh well, it
still works fine as an air gyro ....
regards
Rowland
| PFA 16532 EAA 168386 Young Eagles Flight Leader 017623
| Europa builder #435 G-ROWI e-mail
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| Subject: | Re: Avionics-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 05/18/02 |
> I have acquired second-hand an air-driven directional gyro that I'd
> like to use in the panel of my Europa. It came from G-BGTP which was
> a Robin HR100/210 serial no 188 built 1974. The DG is a Badin Crouzet
I have tried to find
> out more about the makers (if they are still in the business!) on the
> internet but so far have not had much luck.
Rowland,
Crouzet is still in business, but I'm afraid it is a BIG firm making OEM
equipment for Boeings and Airbusses. Chances are you'll have to ask an FBO
since they won't be willing to deal with individuals.
But how about asking the maker of the airplane your equipment came from ?
Avions Robin is located near Dijon, on the Darois aerodrome. Not too far
from GB.
>
> I am hoping that the electrical interface on DGs might be standard
> (or maybe the French do not think the same!) and that I could perhaps
> put together some sort of wing leveller that would work in the
> Europa.
Robin might tell you if that 28 year old technology can interface with
present time electronics. From experience, the boxes of that time were heavy
and bulky affairs. But who knows ?
Maybe you'll be better off with just the DG function.
For an autopilot, ask Dyn Aero, in Dijon. They just developped a neat little
gizmo with all the functions your looking for : wing leveller, etc. and far
less expensive than the current equipment.
Hope this helps,
Gilles
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| From: | "mindspring" <del.johnson(at)mindspring.com> |
Delbert JohnsonThere have been several discussions on the avionics and
engines lists about using the exhaust system to generate enough vacuum to
run your instruments. Has anyone actually done it. The postings on the
avionics list back in 2000 indicated that the Subaru group had tested it by
using a tube inserted into the exhaust system and was able to generate
enough vacuum to require a vacuum regulator.
Can someone provide an update on this subject? Has anyone gotten a system
working that is flight proven? How much vacuum can be produced.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Rich <rich(at)carol.net> |
| Subject: | Edo-Aire attitude gyro |
Does anyone have any specs or pinout info on the Edo-Aire 5000L-8 attitude gyro?
I can see on the back it has an air inlet port, vacuum port, gage port & an electrical
plug. What is the air inlet & electrical plug for?
Thanks
Rich
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| Subject: | Bendix RN 222B Nav |
| From: | lhdodge1(at)mmm.com |
7, 2002) at 05/30/2002 05:30:26 PM
I have a Bendix RN-222B Nav w/GS and an IN224A indicator. Both are yellow
tagged from Nov. '73.
Does anyone have a wiring diagram for these? I have the original harness,
but need to double check the power/ground hook-ups.
Also, I need the cog belts that drive the frequency indicators. Anyone know
where these can be found?
Thanks,
Larry Dodge
lhdodge1(at)mmm.com
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| From: | "Ronnie Brown" <romott(at)adelphia.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Edo-Aire attitude gyro |
Sounds like common gyro ports.
The air inlet is connected to the inlet air filter. The gauge port goes to
the vacuum gauge, the electrical plug is probably for an internal light.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rich" <rich(at)carol.net>
Subject: Avionics-List: Edo-Aire attitude gyro
>
> Does anyone have any specs or pinout info on the Edo-Aire 5000L-8 attitude
gyro?
> I can see on the back it has an air inlet port, vacuum port, gage port &
an electrical
> plug. What is the air inlet & electrical plug for?
>
> Thanks
> Rich
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Rich <rich(at)carol.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Edo-Aire attitude gyro |
I forgot to mention, it's a 7 pin plug.
Rich
Ronnie Brown wrote:
>
>
> Sounds like common gyro ports.
>
> The air inlet is connected to the inlet air filter. The gauge port goes to
> the vacuum gauge, the electrical plug is probably for an internal light.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Brian Lloyd <brian(at)lloyd.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Edo-Aire attitude gyro |
At 04:27 AM 5/30/2002, you wrote:
>
>Does anyone have any specs or pinout info on the Edo-Aire 5000L-8 attitude
>gyro?
>I can see on the back it has an air inlet port, vacuum port, gage port &
>an electrical
>plug. What is the air inlet & electrical plug for?
Air has to go in somewhere to come out the vacuum port. In a vacuum system
air-in will come from the filter. In a pressure system (Beech) air-in will
come from the pressure pump.
The electrical plug is probably attitude output for the autopilot. There
will be an excitation winding for the 400 Hz input and probably two
differential outputs for pitch and roll. My guess is that you have seven pins:
excite +
excite -
roll +
roll -
pitch +
pitch -
ground
The pitch and roll windings are probably center-tapped to the ground.
But I am only guessing at this. Your milage may vary. Be sure to get the
diagram from Edo Aire before trying to use this.
Brian Lloyd
brian(at)lloyd.com
+1.530.676.1113 - voice
+1.360.838.9669 - fax
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| From: | Gary Liming <gary(at)liming.org> |
| Subject: | Turn and Bank Coord pinouts |
I have a TC-001 Turn and bank coordinator, the one that Van's used to sell
that is made by Wultrad.
On the back it is marked
1-POS 2-GND 3-NOT USED.
The pins of the connector are unmarked. Looking at the instrument from the
back (eyes facing aft as it is mounted in the A/C) the pins are in a triangle,
two along the top, and one on the bottom. Could someone tell me which pin
is 1, 2, and 3? I sure don't want to hook it up backward.
Thanks,
Gary Liming
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| From: | LClark6372(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Avionics-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 07/07/02 |
anyone had any experience with appollo avionics? looking for a good avionics
package...com,navcom and transponder/encoder for my rv 8
jim clark
napa ca
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| From: | LClark6372(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Avionics-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 07/07/02 |
looking for a good avionics package for my rv8 also looking for value
need a comm, navcom and transponder/encoder.
jim clark
napa,ca
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| From: | Brian Lloyd <brian(at)lloyd.com> |
| Subject: | query about Apollo avionics |
At 09:50 PM 7/8/2002, you wrote:
>
>anyone had any experience with appollo avionics? looking for a good avionics
>package...com,navcom and transponder/encoder for my rv 8
Well, I am kinda hooked on UPSAT radios at this point. I have had three
SL60 GPS/Comm radios in three different aircraft. Great radio. The
ability of the comm to monitor the standby frequency is a big win when you
want to listen to the ATIS while still talking to ATC. This is great when
you are limited on space and don't want to buy a second comm.
I now have a full stack of UPSAT stuff installed in my Aztec. Here is the
stack line-up: an SL-15 audio panel (PS Engineering PMA-7000), SL-60
GPS/Comm, SL-30 Nav/Comm, SL-70 xpdr, and a Sandel glass HSI. I also kept
the old KNS-80 because it just works too well to throw away.
The intercom in the SL-15 is awesome. I use a mix of headsets in the
aircraft and the automatic squelch setting is always just right.
This is the third SL-60 I have had and it works as well as the others. It
is going to be coming out shortly to move to its new home in my CJ6A
project to be replaced by a GX-60 approach-certified GPS/comm.
The SL-30 is an amazing radio. It is certainly the best nav I have
used. Rock solid VOR operation. The ability to monitor the radial from a
second VOR programmed into the standby frequency is just icing on the
cake. The SL-30 by itself is like having dual Nav/Comms.
The SL-70 transponder works and I don't get complaints from Stockton approach.
The only strange thing I have found is that the RMI function of the Sandel
doesn't work when monitoring the standby nav frequency. The Sandel uses
the composite signal from the receiver and I suspect that the receiver is
switching between the main and standby frequencies so the VOR converter in
the Sandel can't lock onto the radial. OTOH, that is a pretty small
complaint for the whole system.
Brian Lloyd
brian(at)lloyd.com
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+1.360.838.9669 - fax
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| From: | Collins <collins(at)pali.com> |
| Subject: | Source for pressure transducers? |
Hi all,
I am investigating a flight-data logging project to characterize
airplane performance. I will need transducers to measure both static
and dynamic air pressure. They will, of course, need to be plumbed
to a pitot tube.
Can anyone recommend a source for appropriate devices?
I will be interfacing them to a computer so that I can calibrate
their range and any non-linearities in software. I can adapt to
either analog or digital output from the transducers.
Thanks in advance,
Bob Collins
Sunnyvale CA USA
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | David Chalmers <David(at)ChalmersFamily.com> |
| Subject: | Source for pressure transducers? |
Al Wick (alwick(at)juno.com) has done such a thing with his Cozy - used
automobile pressures sensors apparently. You might want to talk to him.
David Chalmers
Redmond, WA
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Collins [mailto:collins(at)pali.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 10:04 PM
> To: avionics-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Avionics-List: Source for pressure transducers?
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am investigating a flight-data logging project to characterize
> airplane performance. I will need transducers to measure both static
> and dynamic air pressure. They will, of course, need to be plumbed
> to a pitot tube.
>
> Can anyone recommend a source for appropriate devices?
>
> I will be interfacing them to a computer so that I can calibrate
> their range and any non-linearities in software. I can adapt to
> either analog or digital output from the transducers.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Bob Collins
> Sunnyvale CA USA
>
>
> ===========
> ===========
> ===========
> ===========
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Tammy and Mike Salzman <arrow54t(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Source for pressure transducers? |
--- Collins wrote:
...
> I will need transducers to measure both static
>
> and dynamic air pressure. They will, of course, need to be plumbed
> to a pitot tube.
>
> Can anyone recommend a source for appropriate devices?
...
Try http://www.alliedelec.com/ Do a search for pressure sensor. They
have quite a selection.
Mike
http://autos.yahoo.com
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| From: | Finn Lassen <finnlassen(at)netzero.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Source for pressure transducers? |
MPX series from Motorola. Available from newark.com. About $20 ea.
Linear output with specified offset. 0.25 to 4.75 Volts (with 5V supply).
Finn
Collins wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am investigating a flight-data logging project to characterize
> airplane performance. I will need transducers to measure both static
> and dynamic air pressure. They will, of course, need to be plumbed
> to a pitot tube.
>
> Can anyone recommend a source for appropriate devices?
>
> I will be interfacing them to a computer so that I can calibrate
> their range and any non-linearities in software. I can adapt to
> either analog or digital output from the transducers.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Bob Collins
> Sunnyvale CA USA
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| From: | "MindspringMail" <del.johnson(at)mindspring.com> |
| Subject: | Source for pressure transducers? |
Motorola has some pressure transducers that should work. They also have a
technical paper on how to construct a altimeter. I believe engine
monitoring system from the company in Grand Rapids, MI uses the Motorola
transducers in their altimeter option.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Collins <collins(at)pali.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Source for pressure transducers? |
Hello Del,
Could you point me to the technical paper on how to construct a altimeter?
I was searching their web site list night and did not find any app notes
that were that application specific.
Thanks,
Bob Collins
Sunnyvale CA USA
MindspringMail wrote:
>
>
> Motorola has some pressure transducers that should work. They also have a
> technical paper on how to construct a altimeter. I believe engine
> monitoring system from the company in Grand Rapids, MI uses the Motorola
> transducers in their altimeter option.
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Phil Birkelbach" <phil(at)petrasoft.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Source for pressure transducers? |
I typed in 'electronic altimeter project' at www.google.com and got a few
hits, here are a couple...
http://www.electronic-engineering.ch/microchip/projects/alti/alti.html
http://touchwood.ee.uts.edu.au/rockets/alt2.htm
http://members.rogers.com/ricnakk/alti.html
I bet if you put some different words in the search like 'digital'
'schemtaic' or 'circuit' you could find a few more. Here is a link to a way
to convert the pressure into altitude...
http://phil.petrasoft.net/projects/avionics/resources/altcalc.txt
I think that there may be some more technical papers at www.microchip.com
They usually have some really good application notes.
Godspeed,
Phil Birkelbach - Houston Texas
RV-7 N727WB (Reserved)
http://www.myrv7.com
Fuselage
Airplanes never win battles with the ground. The best the airplane can hope
for is a draw.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Collins" <collins(at)pali.com>
Subject: Re: Avionics-List: Source for pressure transducers?
>
> Hello Del,
>
> Could you point me to the technical paper on how to construct a altimeter?
> I was searching their web site list night and did not find any app notes
> that were that application specific.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bob Collins
> Sunnyvale CA USA
>
> MindspringMail wrote:
> >
> >
> > Motorola has some pressure transducers that should work. They also have
a
> > technical paper on how to construct a altimeter. I believe engine
> > monitoring system from the company in Grand Rapids, MI uses the Motorola
> > transducers in their altimeter option.
> >
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | John Loram <johnl(at)loram.org> |
| Subject: | Bose QuietComfort earphones? |
Has anyone on this list had experience with the Bose QuietComfort earphones
in a small plane environment? I looking for something for passengers that
don't like the heavier head-squeezing headsets that pilots have come to know
and love.
thanks, -john-
john(at)loram.org
www.loram.org
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| Subject: | Eastern Electronics |
| From: | lhdodge1(at)mmm.com |
7, 2002) at 07/30/2002 09:43:37 AM
Has anyone on this list had experience with purchasing used radio equipment
through Eastern Electronics? I talked to them at OSHCOSH and they seemed
knowledgable and interested in "helping" me to get the avionics I need at a
reasonable price. Any feedback regarding quality, service, etc. would be
appreciated.
Larry RV-6 Firewall forward
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Joe Cunningham" <Joe(at)eversharptool.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Eastern Electronics |
I purchased some new stuff from them recently and they were very responsive.
I have done business with Eastern as well as Avionics West in Cal and found
both companies to be excellent to deal with.
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| From: | "PFlyer" <pfergus2(at)tampabay.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Eastern Electronics |
Larry - I have had some very good dealings with Eastern. Ask for Mike. He
really has gone the extra mile to help me. Chief has been very good also.
Peter Ferguson
601 HDS
3300 Jab
----- Original Message -----
From: <lhdodge1(at)mmm.com>
Subject: Avionics-List: Eastern Electronics
>
>
> Has anyone on this list had experience with purchasing used radio
equipment
> through Eastern Electronics? I talked to them at OSHCOSH and they seemed
> knowledgable and interested in "helping" me to get the avionics I need at
a
> reasonable price. Any feedback regarding quality, service, etc. would be
> appreciated.
>
> Larry RV-6 Firewall forward
>
>
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| From: | "Dave Ford" <dford(at)michweb.net> |
I couldn't help but notice when reading FAR 91.205 concerning required
instruments for VFR, IFR flight that the VSI is not mentioned at all as
a required instrument. I am a relatively new pilot and in my training
referred quite often to the VSI for holding altitude, descent rate, etc.
Anyone have insight to this or am I missing something?
Dave Ford
RV6
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| From: | "Chris Martin" <cmartin(at)syntheon.com> |
| Subject: | RE: Avionics-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 08/03/02 |
Dave, the VSI is a good reference but the altimeter (which is required) is
the primary altitude reference. Rate of change in altitude can be
instantaneously detected by looking whether the altimeter needle moves or
not (try it). Granted that during descents the VSI is very usefull but if
you know a power setting and airspeed which gives you the rate of descent
you want then you can do without the VSI. You can always use a stopwach to
time how many feets you climb or descent in 1 minute.
I guess the FAA was smart to provide guidelines for minimum equipment and
leave it up to you to add more if you wish or have the panel space.
Regards,
Chris
______________
> From: "Dave Ford" <dford(at)michweb.net>
> Subject: Avionics-List: VSI
>
>
> I couldn't help but notice when reading FAR 91.205 concerning required
> instruments for VFR, IFR flight that the VSI is not mentioned at all as
> a required instrument. I am a relatively new pilot and in my training
> referred quite often to the VSI for holding altitude, descent rate, etc.
> Anyone have insight to this or am I missing something?
>
> Dave Ford
> RV6
>
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| From: | Larry Bowen <lcbowen(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Avionics-List VSI |
This reminds me of similar questions I had recently when reading the same reg.
According to it, a DG is required. So, what qualifies as a DG? Only the old
RCA or Sigma Tek or whatever type of DG that precesses all the time? A whiskey
compass? The mock HSI on my handheld GPS? The fluxgate compass, whose face
looks a lot like a DG?
I'm planning on having an IFR capable panel, but have no desire to have a
traditional DG. What are my options?
Thanks,
Larry
RV-8, the last 90%
> ______________
> > From: "Dave Ford" <dford(at)michweb.net>
> > Subject: Avionics-List: VSI
> >
> >
> > I couldn't help but notice when reading FAR 91.205 concerning required
> > instruments for VFR, IFR flight that the VSI is not mentioned at all as
> > a required instrument. I am a relatively new pilot and in my training
> > referred quite often to the VSI for holding altitude, descent rate, etc.
> > Anyone have insight to this or am I missing something?
> >
> > Dave Ford
> > RV6
http://health.yahoo.com
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| From: | Bruce Boyes <bboyes(at)systronix.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Avionics-List VSI |
>
>This reminds me of similar questions I had recently when reading the same
>reg.
>According to it, a DG is required. So, what qualifies as a DG? Only the old
>RCA or Sigma Tek or whatever type of DG that precesses all the time? A
>whiskey
>compass? The mock HSI on my handheld GPS? The fluxgate compass, whose face
>looks a lot like a DG?
Take these answers with a grain of salt, but I think they are correct.
Similar issues came up in a recent ground school class and were also
discussed on Avweb.
A DG is assumed to be an inertial instrument, at least it can't be a
magnetic compass. A magnetic compass is separately required even for VFR
flight.
An HSI would qualify as a DG, but not if it's not "installed" in the aircraft.
For the same reason the IFR-required clock has to be "installed" also, your
wristwatch doesn't count. You can use other timers (I do) but you still
have to have a working clock in the panel.
Bruce Boyes
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| From: | Larry Bowen <lcbowen(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Avionics-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 08/06/02 |
So how do the new EFIS products get away with saying the are 'all you need for
an IFR panel'? (I'm paraphrasing.) The magnetic tape display on the Blue Mtn.
EFIS products -- those don't qualify as DGs? I think they are just a flux gate
compass.
Thanks,
Larry
> >
> >This reminds me of similar questions I had recently when reading the same
> >reg.
> >According to it, a DG is required. So, what qualifies as a DG? Only the
> old
> >RCA or Sigma Tek or whatever type of DG that precesses all the time? A
> >whiskey
> >compass? The mock HSI on my handheld GPS? The fluxgate compass, whose face
> >looks a lot like a DG?
>
> Take these answers with a grain of salt, but I think they are correct.
> Similar issues came up in a recent ground school class and were also
> discussed on Avweb.
>
> A DG is assumed to be an inertial instrument, at least it can't be a
> magnetic compass. A magnetic compass is separately required even for VFR
> flight.
>
> An HSI would qualify as a DG, but not if it's not "installed" in the
> aircraft.
>
> For the same reason the IFR-required clock has to be "installed" also, your
> wristwatch doesn't count. You can use other timers (I do) but you still
> have to have a working clock in the panel.
>
> Bruce Boyes
http://health.yahoo.com
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| From: | Bruce Boyes <bboyes(at)systronix.com> |
| Subject: | Re: EFIS for IFR (DG?) |
>
>So how do the new EFIS products get away with saying the are 'all you need for
>an IFR panel'? (I'm paraphrasing.) The magnetic tape display on the Blue
>Mtn.
>EFIS products -- those don't qualify as DGs? I think they are just a flux
>gate
>compass.
>
>Thanks,
>Larry
Good question, I don't know anything about EFIS. In larger aircraft
(current typical users of EFIS, right?) the rules are different. For
example an ELT is generally required in small planes but it's not required
in turbojet aircraft, scheduled air carrier flights, etc (91.207.f).
Far 91.205.d.9 says "Gyroscopic direction indicator (directional gyro or
equivalent)" so maybe EFIS is an "equivalent"?
Bruce
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| From: | Livingston John W Civ ASC/ENFD <John.Livingston(at)wpafb.af.mil> |
| Subject: | Re: EFIS for IFR (DG?) |
Bruce, All,
These systems have solid state DG's and AI's. They use rate gyros which are integrated
over time to give direction information. They are usually augmented by
compass and accelerometers inputs to correct for drift. They "equivalent".
John
-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Boyes [mailto:bboyes(at)systronix.com]
Subject: Avionics-List: Re: EFIS for IFR (DG?)
>
>So how do the new EFIS products get away with saying the are 'all you need for
>an IFR panel'? (I'm paraphrasing.) The magnetic tape display on the Blue
>Mtn.
>EFIS products -- those don't qualify as DGs? I think they are just a flux
>gate
>compass.
>
>Thanks,
>Larry
Good question, I don't know anything about EFIS. In larger aircraft
(current typical users of EFIS, right?) the rules are different. For
example an ELT is generally required in small planes but it's not required
in turbojet aircraft, scheduled air carrier flights, etc (91.207.f).
Far 91.205.d.9 says "Gyroscopic direction indicator (directional gyro or
equivalent)" so maybe EFIS is an "equivalent"?
Bruce
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| From: | "Dave Ford" <dford(at)michweb.net> |
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| From: | "Dave Ford" <dford(at)michweb.net> |
Was wondering if anyone has any experience with the Garmin GNC300XL
gps/com. I found one that fits my budget well and wondered if there are
any pros and cons to this unit. The only thing I can see right now is
that it is not WAAS capable. Is this a big issue?
Dave Ford
RV6
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| From: | "James & Shalise Cash" <jcash(at)granbury.com> |
, ,
| Subject: | FA: New com radio and Woodward prop governor |
Hey everybody,
Just wanted to give you a heads up that I have a couple of good deals on
eBay:
New Michel radio:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item1852114559
0SMOH Woodward prop governor for McCauley hub:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item1852126114
Thanks,
Jimmy Cash
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| From: | "James & Shalise Cash" <jcash(at)granbury.com> |
, ,
| Subject: | Corrected address: FA: New com radio and Woodward prop |
governor
Hey everybody,
Just wanted to give you a heads up that I have a couple of good deals on
eBay:
New Michel radio:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item1852114559
0SMOH Woodward prop governor for McCauley hub:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item1852126114
Thanks,
Jimmy Cash
PS: If you have trouble with the links, make sure the "" sign is in
front of the item number. It gets scrambled sometimes, putting the""
in front of the last digit.
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| From: | Ira Rampil <rampil(at)anesthes.sunysb.edu> |
| Subject: | Contactor Question |
Hi All,
Does anyone have any insight as to why we are all still using solenoid
contactors or relays instead
of ruggedized triacs or some other well-designed, protected solid-state
solution? Two amps continuously
from my poor little 17 amp Rotax really hurts!
Ira
N224XS Europa XS trigear motorglider
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "James Foerster" <jmfpublic(at)attbi.com> |
| Subject: | Why we use contactors |
Ira,
Good question. I've considered the same issue. Two things: 4 layer
devices have a significant forward voltage drop, which is a big fraction
of 12 volts, and the device must be able to handle pulses of 300 t0 400
amps upon startup, unless you don't want the protection of the master
contactor to break the circuit if the starter contactor sticks. Also,
in the high amperage range, you are looking a SCRs which need complex
circuitry to break high current DC. I can buy a surplus contactor for
$7.50 from Allelectronics, which works just fine, and has no need for
heat sinks, either.
Jim Foerster
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| From: | william Lunsford <wlunsford_99(at)yahoo.com> |
Need help finding the pin location for a Genave/alpha
200 plug. any one have a scamatic? A schetch that I
may follow and hook up this VHF in my old C-140
Thanks,cessna140bud
Wm. Lunsford
=====
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| From: | "Jeff Kauffman" <N2662v(at)netzero.net> |
| Subject: | Hoskins DVOR 200 pin-out? |
Does anyone have a pin-out for the Hoskins DVOR 200? I'm in the middle
of an upgrade and want to keep the DVOR active. I know it takes a
composite VOR/LOC signal but there are a bunch of pins jumpered to
ground - I just wanted to make sure I knew what was up with it...
Also any hints on alignment would be helpful - it has as Level and Phase
pot for each channel. I assume it will be straight-forward...
Thanks...Jeff Kauffman
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Getting Bounced From Matronics Lists... |
Dear Listers,
I have two programs I run regularly to purge the various Matronics email
lists of bad email addresses. I referred to these as my Email Weasels and
there is a daily version that is run automatically every night at midnight
and there is a and a monthly version that I run by hand at roughly 30-day
intervals.
The Daily Weasel grinds through the 8 to 10mb of bounced email that is
generated each day looking for obvious things like "user unknown", "host
unknown", and other things that usually mean the user's email address
doesn't exist any longer. The Daily Weasel has been purging 5 to 10 email
addresses each night.
The Monthly Weasel gets more serious about the task and sends a single
message to each list member with specially generated headers and content
information. Any bounces or replies to these messages are considered
errors and the email address is eligible for purging. This program is
particularly useful for "weaseling out" email addresses that are actually
being forwarded to by another email address that is subscribed to a List
and otherwise would not be identifiable. The Monthly Weasel purges roughly
100 nonexistent email addresses each month when it is run.
To check to see if your address has been removed by either of the Email
Weasel programs, you can check the Weasel Status Web Page at the following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/unsubscribed
If you find your email address on the Weasel List, but are certain that
everything is working fine now, simply go the Matronics Subscription page
and resubscribe your address. No harm, no foul. The subscription URL is:
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That all having been said, I've noticed that the Daily Weasel may have been
getting a little too aggressive in purging addresses recently and a number
of people have written asking if and why they'd been dropped from the List.
A couple of months ago I rewrote the Daily Weasel program to include a
wider variety of errors and more aggressively purge. One of the new purge
criteria that I added seems to occur a fair amount of the time (Connection
Deferred) even though the address is really okay.
As of today, I've removed the Connection Deferred criteria from the Daily
Weasel Rule set and this should decrease the number of "false positives"
and unnecessary unsubscribed.
Again, if you get unsubscribed by either of the Email Weasel utilities,
simply go to the subscription page and resubscribe:
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Best regards,
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| From: | "gretz aero" <warrengretz(at)gretzaero.com> |
"Tailwind-List" ,
"RV-List" ,
"Rocket-List" ,
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| Subject: | Gretz Aero at Copperstate |
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The Gretz Aero booth will be in booth spaces 11,12 and 13. Stop by and say hello.
We will have "show special" pricing on some popular items.
Copperstate is at a new location this year and is located south of the Phoenix metro area at the Phoenix Regional Grand Valley Airport (A39). Copperstate has a webpage at http://www.copperstate.org for more information.
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303-770-3811 home office, evenings and weekends
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| From: | "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister(at)qia.net> |
Hi All,
I was wondering how much reconditioned HSI's cost. I was thinking of a fairly
basic vacuum, non slaved model such as the Century 360A. Any suggestions where
I would start shopping for such a device ?
Paul
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Vern Darley,II" <vern(at)mindspring.com> |
Anyone know anything about King's KMD-150 GPS?
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Bob Darrah" <RDarrah(at)austin.rr.com> |
Does anyone have a good place to get the information needed to determine if a used
transponder (or com transmitter) is still legal to install in a homebuilt?
There are several advertised in various places, but some of them, I understand,
are not legal anymore.
Bob Darrah
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Tom Brusehaver <cozytom(at)mn.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Used avionics |
I found this list somewhere:
http://www.1st-of-pryor.com/badradios.asp
Bob Darrah wrote:
>
> Does anyone have a good place to get the information needed to determine if a
used transponder (or com transmitter) is still legal to install in a homebuilt?
There are several advertised in various places, but some of them, I understand,
are not legal anymore.
>
> Bob Darrah
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | ROBINFLY(at)aol.com |
Dear Listers:
I am sorting out the wiring behind my panel. I have a King KX-125. When
reading the "Quick Shot" pin-out, connector P100 has 44 pins labeled as "A"
to "Z" on top and 1 to 22 on bottom, and connector P501 has 36 pins labeled
as "A" to "V" on top and 1 to 18 on bottom.
Question 1, labels "A" to "Z" and "A" to "V" each has 4 more letters than
there are pins, which 4 letters should be ignored?
Question 2, King's "audio out hi" and "audio out lo", are they the same as
"audio out" and "audio ground" on other radios?
Question 3, does anyone have the pin-out on Icom A22 handheld radio? What
are the tip, center, and back connections on each of the speaker plug and
mike plug?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Robin Hou
54 E-35
N7303B
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: (no subject) |
ROBINFLY(at)aol.com wrote:
>
> I am sorting out the wiring behind my panel. I have a King KX-125. When
> reading the "Quick Shot" pin-out, connector P100 has 44 pins labeled as "A"
> to "Z" on top and 1 to 22 on bottom, and connector P501 has 36 pins labeled
> as "A" to "V" on top and 1 to 18 on bottom.
>
> Question 1, labels "A" to "Z" and "A" to "V" each has 4 more letters than
> there are pins, which 4 letters should be ignored?
>
*** I believe it's traditional, when lettering pins, to not use the letters
that look too much like numbers. So, "I" and "O" are out, and probably "Q"
& "L".
> Question 2, King's "audio out hi" and "audio out lo", are they the same as
> "audio out" and "audio ground" on other radios?
*** Yes. The idea is that you should run the "audio out lo" and "audio out
hi" to the next piece of gear - usually the audio panel, instead of running
just one wire to the next piece of gear, and grounding its audio low. That
way, the audio current goes out through the "high" and comes right back
through the "low", and the circuit has good noise immunity.
- Jerry Kaidor ( jerry(at)tr2.com )
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Aucountry(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Charging systems |
Bob, I just replaced a voltage regulator on an AA1C. The one I used is a
VR200A. Red, Yellow, and Black (ground) wires.
Question: What are the differences between the electrical systems with two
wire voltage regulators (like the VR200A) and three wire regulators (like the
ones on Cheetahs and Tigers?
Question: I saw a Zeftronics regulator (forget the number) that has a built
in over voltage indicator. Is it a lot of work to get one of those approved
for any one of the Grumman line?
Gary
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Werner Schneider" <WernerSchneider(at)compuserve.com> |
| Subject: | Re: (no subject) |
Hello Robin,
just bought the KX yesterday,
with a magnifying glass you can see the embosed letters on the connector
here the list of connected Letters:
P100: A,B,C,F,H,K,L,M,N,P,T,U,V,W,X,Y,Z (K/N only for Maintenance)
P501: B,C,D,E,F,H,J,K,L,M,N,P,R,S,T (F only for Maintenance)
I have the installation manual, I can send it as PDF to you if needed.
Kind regards
Werner
----- Original Message -----
From: <ROBINFLY(at)aol.com>
Subject: Avionics-List: (no subject)
>
> Dear Listers:
>
> I am sorting out the wiring behind my panel. I have a King KX-125. When
> reading the "Quick Shot" pin-out, connector P100 has 44 pins labeled as
"A"
> to "Z" on top and 1 to 22 on bottom, and connector P501 has 36 pins
labeled
> as "A" to "V" on top and 1 to 18 on bottom.
>
> Question 1, labels "A" to "Z" and "A" to "V" each has 4 more letters than
> there are pins, which 4 letters should be ignored?
>
> Question 2, King's "audio out hi" and "audio out lo", are they the same as
> "audio out" and "audio ground" on other radios?
>
> Question 3, does anyone have the pin-out on Icom A22 handheld radio? What
> are the tip, center, and back connections on each of the speaker plug and
> mike plug?
>
> Thanks in advance for your help.
>
> Robin Hou
> 54 E-35
> N7303B
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Werner Schneider" <WernerSchneider(at)compuserve.com> |
| Subject: | Re: (no subject) |
Robin,
did read later, that your KX might be build into the airplane so it will be
difficult to read the letters on the connectors:
P100: A,B,C,D,E,F,H,J,K,L,M,N,P,R,S,T,U,V,W,X,Y,Z
P501: A,B,C,D,E,F,H,J,K,L,M,N,P,R,S,T,U,V
----- Original Message -----
From: "Werner Schneider" <WernerSchneider(at)compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Avionics-List: (no subject)
>
> Hello Robin,
>
> just bought the KX yesterday,
> with a magnifying glass you can see the embosed letters on the connector
>
> here the list of connected Letters:
>
> P100: A,B,C,F,H,K,L,M,N,P,T,U,V,W,X,Y,Z (K/N only for Maintenance)
> P501: B,C,D,E,F,H,J,K,L,M,N,P,R,S,T (F only for Maintenance)
>
> I have the installation manual, I can send it as PDF to you if needed.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Werner
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <ROBINFLY(at)aol.com>
> To: ;
> Subject: Avionics-List: (no subject)
>
>
> >
> > Dear Listers:
> >
> > I am sorting out the wiring behind my panel. I have a King KX-125.
When
> > reading the "Quick Shot" pin-out, connector P100 has 44 pins labeled as
> "A"
> > to "Z" on top and 1 to 22 on bottom, and connector P501 has 36 pins
> labeled
> > as "A" to "V" on top and 1 to 18 on bottom.
> >
> > Question 1, labels "A" to "Z" and "A" to "V" each has 4 more letters
than
> > there are pins, which 4 letters should be ignored?
> >
> > Question 2, King's "audio out hi" and "audio out lo", are they the same
as
> > "audio out" and "audio ground" on other radios?
> >
> > Question 3, does anyone have the pin-out on Icom A22 handheld radio?
What
> > are the tip, center, and back connections on each of the speaker plug
and
> > mike plug?
> >
> > Thanks in advance for your help.
> >
> > Robin Hou
> > 54 E-35
> > N7303B
> >
> >
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
Not really a radio problem. Just a problem with electricity.
Testing my Aeroflash piggy back wing tip strobes. Have a glass wing with 2
14 guage wires in serpertine style from wing root to wing tip, one wire for
the strobe and one for the nav light. Also a 1/4" braided ground wire.
Useing a 40 amp battery charger, if I touch either wire, the strobe or nav
light works great. If I touch both wires together, only the nav light works.
Sounds like a lack of power but with 40 amps??
Anyone have any ideas. hate to close up the wing until I get this solved.
Thanks,
Bob
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Benford2(at)aol.com |
Funny you should mention that. I did the same thing and was surprised that
the charger wouldn't deliver enough power to fire the strobes. I used a spare
car battery that was sitting around and they worked just fine. All I can
figure is that the charger senses a demand for juice but is not smart enough
to put out the rated amps. Or, the chargers are overrated and cannot put out
40 amps.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "James Foerster" <jmfpublic(at)attbi.com> |
Bob,
You had better use a battery to test your lights. The nav light is a simple
resistance, and it accepts the likely pulsating power from your battery charger.
The strobe will shut down with this. Remember, there is no need for a
battery charger to put out constant DC. The battery will just average the current
it gets to rejuvenate its chemical components. Usually, the charger is just
the output of a full wave bridge, so it is 120 Hs pulsating DC. I doubt you
have a problem with your lights.
This is why a bench power supply is needed to run instruments: it has filtered
output.
Jim Foerster
________________________________________________________________________________
Thanks to everyone who replied, and everyone was right.
I used the battery charger to test the nav light and strobe installation
because the aircraft battery was dead. When they didn't work together, tried
to look for some unusual wiring or product defect.
Connected the battery charger to the battery and a jumper to the wing wiring
and everything worked as promised. Both the strobe and the nav light came
on. Now I can glue the top skin on the wing. (That is after I install an
inspection cover in the bottom of the wing large enough to be able to remove
and install the power supply to the strobe.) I've learned a new lesson.
Thanks,
Bob, Wichita
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | ROBINFLY(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | re: Collins audio panel AUD-251H |
Dear Listers:
Thanks for your replies on my prior posting re: KX-125 connectors.
I continue to sort out the wiring in my Bonanza. I discovered that my audio
panel, a Collins AUD-251H, has connections labeled as "ICS MIC 1" through
"ICS MIC 5." New questions:
1. Does that mean the AUD-251H has a built-in intercom system (ICS)?
2. If it does, how come there were no volume nor squelch controls on the face
plate?
Thanks,
Robin Hou
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | <etech(at)ucnsb.net> |
Hello Everyone!!
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Rick Case
Electronic Technologies
1501 Airway Circle
New Smyrna Beach, FL32168
(386) 426-1213
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Steve Semenuk <shsrv6a(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | New Elect. Intl. Inst. Package for sale |
zenith-list(at)matronics.com, piper-list(at)matronics.com,
lancair-list(at)matronics.com.europa-list@matronics.com,
beech-list(at)matronics.com, aviation-list(at)matronics.com
I am selling at a loss the following. $3200 and
they're yours, including shipping. That's
$650 less than you'll find anywhere and it includes a
fuel level gauge that is not included in most engine
monitors:
Brand new, never installed or used, still in original
boxes (opened only to inventory) Electronics
International instruments as a package only. Purchased
earlier this year. All necessary sensors and
transducers, wires, etc. are included.
1) UBG-16 CHT/EGT bar graph including 4 cht/4egt
probes and 1 OAT probe. Room for
7 other temperature/parameter readings.
2) FP-5L Fuel flow and pressure with GPS interface to
calculate fuel to destination
3) R-1 RPM including flight time
4) OPT-1 Oil pressure and temp
5) M-1 Manifold pressure
6) VA-1 Volt/Amp with 50 Amp external shunt
7) FL-2 Dual fuel level for resistance (standard
float) senders
Steve Semenuk
shsrv6a(at)yahoo.com
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | <etech(at)ucnsb.net> |
| Subject: | GI-106A for sale |
Electronic Technologies
1501 Airway Circle
New Smyrna Beach, FL 32168
(386) 426-1213
www.electronictechnologies.net
----- Original Message -----
From: etech(at)ucnsb.net
Subject: GI-106A for sale
Hello Everyone,
We have an extra GI-106A that belongs to a customer for sale. Has never been installed
or used. Still in original box with install kit and install manual.
Customer was going to get two CDIs, but decided to get an HSI and a CDI. Customer
asking $1398.37 plus S&H. We can pre-wire for a small additonal fee.
If interested, please call or email.
Rick Case
Electronic Technologies
1501 Airway Circle
New Smyrna Beach, FL 32168
(386) 426-1213
www.electronictechnologies.net
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | <etech(at)ucnsb.net> |
, ,
, ,
,
| Subject: | Apollo GX-65 IFR Enroute GPS/Comm for sale |
Brand new unit, $2487.50. Install Kit and manuals included. Shipping and Handling
charges vary based on shipping method (i.e. next day air will be more than
ground). Other units available as well. Ask For Rick.
Electronic Technologies
1501 Airway Circle
New Smyrna Beach, FL 32168
(386) 426-1213
www.electronictechnologies.net
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Bernard Knowler <bernard(at)lightflying.com.au> |
| Subject: | Re: Apollo GX-65 IFR Enroute GPS/Comm for sale |
Re the Forum List statement below - this sounds like 'a form of
advertising' to me!
Bernard
etech(at)ucnsb.net wrote:
>
>Brand new unit, $2487.50. Install Kit and manuals included. Shipping and Handling
charges vary based on shipping method (i.e. next day air will be more than
ground). Other units available as well. Ask For Rick.
>
>
>Electronic Technologies
>1501 Airway Circle
>New Smyrna Beach, FL 32168
>(386) 426-1213
>www.electronictechnologies.net
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Apollo GX-65 IFR Enroute GPS/Comm for sale |
In a message dated 10/31/02 6:05:39 PM Eastern Standard Time,
bernard(at)lightflying.com.au writes:
> Re the Forum List statement below - this sounds like 'a form of
> advertising' to me!
>
If there are good deals available to the RV builders, what is the problem of
letting them know??????
Scott Morrow
RV-6A
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | 2002 List Fund Raiser - Please Support Your Lists... |
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________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | ROBINFLY(at)aol.com |
Dear Listers:
Where can I get replacement pins for King KX-125 and extraction tool for the
pin? Are they available from local electronic stores? What do they call
(name of the pin)?
Many thanks,
Robin Hou
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | New List Digest Feature!! [Please Read] |
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________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Ron Raby" <ronr(at)advanceddesign.com> |
| Subject: | Re: re: pins & tool |
I think you have a bad part #. I have the kings catalog and there is no
kx-125 # in there. Is this a bnc connector? I cannot find the part # on the
web site either.
Ron Raby
N829R
----- Original Message -----
From: <ROBINFLY(at)aol.com>
Subject: Avionics-List: re: pins & tool
>
> Dear Listers:
>
> Where can I get replacement pins for King KX-125 and extraction tool for
the
> pin? Are they available from local electronic stores? What do they call
> (name of the pin)?
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Robin Hou
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Ron Raby" <ronr(at)advanceddesign.com> |
| Subject: | Re: re: pins & tool |
Just relized you were talking about a king radio. sorry about that. I was
looking at kings connectors.
Ron
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Raby" <ronr(at)advanceddesign.com>
Subject: Re: Avionics-List: re: pins & tool
>
> I think you have a bad part #. I have the kings catalog and there is no
> kx-125 # in there. Is this a bnc connector? I cannot find the part # on
the
> web site either.
>
> Ron Raby
>
> N829R
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <ROBINFLY(at)aol.com>
> To:
> Subject: Avionics-List: re: pins & tool
>
>
> >
> > Dear Listers:
> >
> > Where can I get replacement pins for King KX-125 and extraction tool for
> the
> > pin? Are they available from local electronic stores? What do they
call
> > (name of the pin)?
> >
> > Many thanks,
> >
> > Robin Hou
> >
> >
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | List Fund Raiser Continues... |
Marie Murillo
Dear Listers,
Just a quick reminder this morning that we're well into this year's Email
List Fund Raiser. Response has been great so far and there has been a lot
of interest in the Gift options. Speaking of those Gifts, I received a
sample of the Jeppesen Flight Bag from Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore
http://www.buildersbooks.com this weekend, and let me just say that this is
an extremely fine quality unit. Its very light, folds down into a very
small form for storage, and will hold a whole lot of your "pilot
stuff"! For a mere $50 List Contribution, one of these very nice bags
could be yours! You'll be the envy of all your friends.
Won't you make a Contribution today to support the these valuable Email
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ads, no banners - just good clean fun; that is, with your support of course!
Please take a moment and make a generous Contribution today. It only takes
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925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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| From: | Pahan Ranasingha <ltdoof(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | There's a new yahoo group |
Just wanted to let you all know that there's a new yahoo group called experimental
avionics...here's the link if you want to take a look
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ExperimentalAvionics/
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| From: | "Jeff Green" <jegreen(at)apexmail.com> |
| Subject: | Installation diagram |
Does anyone have access to the installation diagram (pinout and wiring) for the
KA-134 audio panel? I would really appreciate it if you could email or fax it
to me. Let me know and I'll give you the number.
Thanks!
Jeff
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| From: | "gretz aero" <warrengretz(at)gretzaero.com> |
"Avionics-List" ,
"RV-List" ,
"Rocket-List" ,
"AeroElectric-List"
| Subject: | Heated pitot tube prices going up |
Hello Listers,
I just found out that the price of the heated pitot tubes I sell is going up. The
manufacture notified me that beginning at the first of the year the price is
going to increase. I do not know how much yet. I am sure I will have to increase
my price as well when this happens.
I currently have a good supply of both the PH502-12CR and the AN5814 pitot tubes
in stock and will be receiving another batch at the first of next month at the
lower price. My advice is to purchase this item now before the first of the
new year and save some money.
You can order by calling me or place your order on my website at http://www.gretzaero.com I hope to hear from you soon.
Warren Gretz
Gretz Aero
720-308-0010 cell days
303-770-3811 home office, evenings and weekends
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Dear Listers,
Wow, I can't belive some of the nice things people have been saying about
the Lists in that little message box on the Contribution form! I've
included more of the great comments since the last WLAS. Thank you to
everyone that has made a Contribution thus far and for all the great
feedback! Please know that I really appreciate the comments and support!!
Have a look at some of your fellow members thoughts below and decide if the
Lists mean at least that much to you or perhaps even more...
Won't you take a moment and make a Contribution to support these
Commercial-Free, SPAM-Free, Virus-Free, high-performance List
services? Its your direct support through this yearly Fund Raiser that
enables all of these valuable services you've come to expect of the
Matronics Lists.
Thank you for your Contribution!!
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | LOC Coming Soon... |
Dear Listers,
This year's List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner. I'll be
posting the LOC on or about December 1. The List of Contributors is a
directory of everyone's name that made a Contribution during this year's
List Fund Raiser. Its kind of my way of publicly thanking everyone that so
generously made a Contribution to support the continued operation and
upgrade of these Lists.
Support your Lists today and make sure that your name is on the upcoming
LOC! Your friends will be checking no doubt to see if YOU make your
Contribution because THEY did! :-)
Support Contribution Info - http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [PLEASE READ] - Why Do I Have A Fund Raiser Each Year? |
Dear Listers,
I got to thinking today that perhaps I should explain why I have a Fund
Raiser and also take the opportunity to express why I think the List
Services here provide a far better experience than the commercial
equivalents.
I use the List Fund Raiser each year to offset the costs involved with
running a high performance email list site such as this one. With the
annual support from the List members through the PBS-like Fund Raiser, I
have found I can run the entire site without having to inflect any of the
members with those annoying banner ads flashing up all the time trying to
sell Toner Cartridge Refills or other garbage nobody wants or needs. From
the comments I've received over the years regarding the Lists, the great
majority of the members really appreciate the non-commercialism of my List
systems and don't mind my 'go-team-go' banter once a year to encourage
members to support the Lists.
I believe that the Lists services that I provide here offer a great many
benefits over the commercial equivalents in a number of ways. The first
feature I believe to be particularly significant is that you *cannot*
receive a computer v*rus from any of my Lists directly. I've been on a few
other List servers and have been unfortunate enough to download infected
files people have innocently or not-so-innocently included with their
posts. This just can't happen with my Lists; each incoming message is
filtered and attachments stripped off prior to posting. I provide a Photo
and File Share feature that allows members to share files and bitmaps with
other members and everyone can be assured that these files will be
prescanned for any sort of v*rus before they are posted. Safe and
simple. Also, with this photo and file sharing technique, the Archives
don't get loaded up with a huge amounts of bitmap "data" that slows the
Archive Search times.
Another feature of this system is the extensive List Archives that are
available for download, browsing, and searching. The Archives go all the
way back to the very beginning of each List and with the super fast Search
Engine, the huge size of the Archives is a non-issue in quickly finding the
data you're looking for. Another feature of the Archives, in my opinion,
is that they have been primarily stripped of all the useless email header
data and all the other header garbage that seems to build up in a typical
email thread.
I have received an extremely positive response from Listers regarding the
List Browse feature and the consensus is that the format and ease of use is
outstanding. Members report that having the previous 7 days worth of
messages online for easy browsing and sorting is hugely beneficial. And
again, as with the real time distribution of List email, the messages are
stripped of all the unnecessary email headers and potentially dangerous
v*ruses. I am currently working on the additional ability to post and/or
reply directly from the List Browse interface. More on this upcoming
feature in the next week or so.
I've been running email Lists and services under the matronics.com domain
since about 1989 starting with RV-List and 30 guys who I knew and who where
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receive value from these Lists, then please support them during the Annual
List Fund Raiser!
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Dear Listers,
We are quickly approaching the end of November and the official end of the
List Fund Raiser. If you look forward to checking your List email everyday
(and a lot of you have written to say that you do!), then you're probably
getting at least $20 or $30 worth of Entertainment from the Lists each
year. You'd pay twice that for a subscription to some lame magazine or
even a dinner out. Isn't the List worth at least that much to
you? Wouldn't it be great if you could pay that same amount and get a
well-managed media source free of advertising, SPAM, and viruses? Come to
think of it, you do... :-)
Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support
YOUR Lists.
Contribution Page:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Again, I want to say THANK YOU to everyone that has made a Contribution
thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser!! These Lists are made
possible exclusively through YOUR generosity!!
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
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| From: | "Mike Comeaux" <mcomeaux(at)cmc.net> |
Does anyone have a picture / diagram of how to
install the ends on the coaxial for radios.
Thanks in advance
Mike Comeaux
mcomeaux(at)cmc.net
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Dennis O'Connor" <doconnor(at)chartermi.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Coaxial Ends |
Mike, borrow or buy a copy of the ARRL (Amateur Radio Relay League)
handbook. either the main handbook or the antenna handbook... They will have
a step by step on how to...
Ask around your coworkers, etc., if anyone is a ham... He/she should be able
to show you how...
Go to the web and do a search on installing a PL-259 , probably on there
somewhere...
Denny
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Comeaux" <mcomeaux(at)cmc.net>
Subject: Avionics-List: Coaxial Ends
>
> Does anyone have a picture / diagram of how to
> install the ends on the coaxial for radios.
> Thanks in advance
> Mike Comeaux
> mcomeaux(at)cmc.net
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Ron Raby" <ronr(at)advanceddesign.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Coaxial Ends |
You need to know the part # and manufacturer of the coax connector that you
are installing. then call the tech support line for the brand you are using
they all have instalation sheets for there connectors. If it is an amp there
tel # is 1-800-722-1111. or 1-800-522-6752
Ron Raby
N829R
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis O'Connor" <doconnor(at)chartermi.net>
Subject: Re: Avionics-List: Coaxial Ends
>
> Mike, borrow or buy a copy of the ARRL (Amateur Radio Relay League)
> handbook. either the main handbook or the antenna handbook... They will
have
> a step by step on how to...
> Ask around your coworkers, etc., if anyone is a ham... He/she should be
able
> to show you how...
> Go to the web and do a search on installing a PL-259 , probably on there
> somewhere...
>
> Denny
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Comeaux" <mcomeaux(at)cmc.net>
> To:
> Subject: Avionics-List: Coaxial Ends
>
>
> >
> > Does anyone have a picture / diagram of how to
> > install the ends on the coaxial for radios.
> > Thanks in advance
> > Mike Comeaux
> > mcomeaux(at)cmc.net
> >
> >
>
>
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| From: | "Jerry Morris" <Jerry.Morris(at)nsc.com> |
| Subject: | compass altimeter combo |
I ran across an interesting ad and it made me say HMMMM.
I was courious to hear pros and cons on it.
I think it would be cool and cheap way to get multifunctions..
comments?
the ice warning feature may be could be used to detect carb ice???
thanks,
jerry
http://www.heartlandamerica.com/cgi-bin/MsmGo.exe?grab_id=2139456&EXTRA_ARG=SC%3D&CFGNAME=MssFind%2Ecfg&host_id=1&page_id=515&query=91009&hiword=91009+
Digital COMPASS Also Gives You Inside & Outside Temps,
Altimeter Plus Barometric Pressure! Engineered with patented
magnetic sensor technology --
just like the units used in GM, Ford and Chrysler vehicles!
Much more than a compass, it's really an information center
for your car - usually reserved for luxury vehicles. Three-mode
compass shows direction, 16 cardinal points and numeric digits
while declination sets compass to true magnetic North. Also displays
indoor/outdoor temperature, altitude up to 19,990? and
barometric pressure. ?Smart? features include ice alert, auto shutoff,
auto backlight and more. Comes with suction cups and
adjustable bracket. 4" x 2.5" x 1.25". 1-year Limited Warranty.
for $80
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "M*M" <mmajors(at)ieee.org> |
| Subject: | Re: compass altimeter combo |
That is interesting. It could become part of a poor man's EFIS system
however it lacks a data output port on it. You could buy it and yank out
the sensors to incorporate into another computer system. This unit is made
by PNI (www.pnicorp.com) who also sells just the sensors that could be of
interest to people on this list. The heartland america web store seems to
have this compass unit cheaper than anyplace else, including PNI directly.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Morris" <Jerry.Morris(at)nsc.com>
Subject: Avionics-List: compass altimeter combo
>
> I ran across an interesting ad and it made me say HMMMM.
>
> I was courious to hear pros and cons on it.
>
> I think it would be cool and cheap way to get multifunctions..
>
> comments?
>
> the ice warning feature may be could be used to detect carb ice???
>
> thanks,
> jerry
>
>
http://www.heartlandamerica.com/cgi-bin/MsmGo.exe?grab_id=2139456&EXTRA_ARGSC%3D&CFGNAME=MssFind%2Ecfg&host_id=1&page_id=515&query=91009&hiword=91009+
>
> Digital COMPASS Also Gives You Inside & Outside Temps,
> Altimeter Plus Barometric Pressure! Engineered with patented
> magnetic sensor technology --
> just like the units used in GM, Ford and Chrysler vehicles!
> Much more than a compass, it's really an information center
> for your car - usually reserved for luxury vehicles. Three-mode
> compass shows direction, 16 cardinal points and numeric digits
> while declination sets compass to true magnetic North. Also displays
> indoor/outdoor temperature, altitude up to 19,990? and
> barometric pressure. ?Smart? features include ice alert, auto shutoff,
> auto backlight and more. Comes with suction cups and
> adjustable bracket. 4" x 2.5" x 1.25". 1-year Limited Warranty.
>
> for $80
>
>
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| From: | "Jim Wittman" <fmico(at)iaxs.net> |
Shakespeare Electronics advertises a solderless connector that looks
good in their ads:
(https://www.shakespeareproducts.com/secure/info-marine.pl). Has anyone
used these fittings? Results?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dennis
O'Connor
Subject: Re: Avionics-List: Coaxial Ends
-->
Mike, borrow or buy a copy of the ARRL (Amateur Radio Relay League)
handbook. either the main handbook or the antenna handbook... They will
have a step by step on how to... Ask around your coworkers, etc., if
anyone is a ham... He/she should be able to show you how... Go to the
web and do a search on installing a PL-259 , probably on there
somewhere...
Denny
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Comeaux" <mcomeaux(at)cmc.net>
Subject: Avionics-List: Coaxial Ends
>
> Does anyone have a picture / diagram of how to
> install the ends on the coaxial for radios.
> Thanks in advance
> Mike Comeaux
> mcomeaux(at)cmc.net
>
>
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| From: | Michel Therrien <mtherr(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: compass altimeter combo |
I bought a PNI electronic compass that I'm trying in
my car (see: www.pnicorp.com).
Really nice! But there are a few things that are so
important to me that I would never put that in the
plane:
. Its failure modes: The first electronic compass I
got was loosing its calibration. The way it did it
was that it worked correctly for a while and then,
would keep showing *approximately* the same direction
all the time (no matter where you're going). This is
something you'd not notice until you make an obvious
turn and see the compass is not working. I had that
compass replaced by a new one that did exactly the
same thing after it completely lost its setup. I
reseted it a few times and now, I think it is working.
. Its precision: My compass has a 1 degree
resolution. However, it is not very precise. When
compared with GPS track (in my car), it shows 10 to 40
degrees of difference with the GPS (depending on what
direction I'm going). If I drive on a road and take a
90 degree turn, the compass will not show a 90 degree
difference. It may show anything between 70 and 110
degree difference. My initial one behaved like that
too when it was not getting stuck on a bearing.
What I don't like with that is that there are no
warning that the compass is failing... no flag on the
display (though it has a "distorsion flag" feature),
no nothing. With a wet compass, you could see that
the compass is stuck, not moving or that the liquid is
leaking, etc... with a vertical card, you could also
notice when it is stuck... but with the electronic
one... no indication! It still moves a few degrees on
each side and when you turn around, you notice that it
still indicates the same direction.
I'll stay with a mechanical one.
Michel
--- Jerry Morris wrote:
>
>
> I ran across an interesting ad and it made me say
> HMMMM.
>
> I was courious to hear pros and cons on it.
>
> I think it would be cool and cheap way to get
> multifunctions..
>
> comments?
>
> the ice warning feature may be could be used to
> detect carb ice???
>
> thanks,
> jerry
>
>
http://www.heartlandamerica.com/cgi-bin/MsmGo.exe?grab_id=2139456&EXTRA_ARG=SC%3D&CFGNAME=MssFind%2Ecfg&host_id=1&page_id=515&query=91009&hiword=91009+
>
> Digital COMPASS Also Gives You Inside & Outside
> Temps,
> Altimeter Plus Barometric Pressure! Engineered with
> patented
> magnetic sensor technology --
> just like the units used in GM, Ford and Chrysler
> vehicles!
> Much more than a compass, it's really an information
> center
> for your car - usually reserved for luxury vehicles.
> Three-mode
> compass shows direction, 16 cardinal points and
> numeric digits
> while declination sets compass to true magnetic
> North. Also displays
> indoor/outdoor temperature, altitude up to 19,990?
> and
> barometric pressure. ?Smart? features include ice
> alert, auto shutoff,
> auto backlight and more. Comes with suction cups and
> adjustable bracket. 4" x 2.5" x 1.25". 1-year
> Limited Warranty.
>
> for $80
>
>
>
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http://pages.infinit.net/mthobby
http://mailplus.yahoo.com
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Fund Raiser Free Gift Shipping Status... |
Dear Listers,
A couple of people have written asking what the shipping status was of
their free List Contribution Gifts. Seemed like some status was in order
and I thought I detail where we're at...
Flight Bag Requests
-------------------
On 11/20/02 I shipped out the first batch of Flight Bag-Only (FBO) gift
requests. I shipped all FBO gift requests I had received from 11/1 to
11/19 except for 3 (Sorry guys!) - I ran out of my first shipment flight
bags! Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore ( http://www.buildersbooks.com
) is supplying me with another batch flight bags which should arrive in
about 2 weeks.
By the way, these are REALLY nice Flight Bags. Extremely well built and
very professional looking. Folds down into a very small size, but will
hold a huge amount of stuff. If you fly, and you've got a lot of stuff,
they you WANT one of these guys. Surf over to the List Contribution page
for details on how to get one of your own!!!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
The Flight Bags have been shipped out US Mail Parcel Post in a large, and I
mean LARGE, padded white plastic envelope. According to the Post Office,
worse case delivery time would be 8 days to destinations on the East Coast,
but indicated it would likely take a lot less time.
Archive CDROM Requests
----------------------
The Archive CDROMs will be mastered and burned on or about December 1 and
should ship out shortly there after. Shipping will be US Mail, Media Rate
in a big padded white envelope. The Archive List data included will be up
to November 30th.
Flight Bag and Archive CDROM Requests
-------------------------------------
These combination orders will ship out when the Archive CDROMs are complete
as described above, likely a little after December 1. The Flight Bag and
the CDROM will be shipped together in the same Giant white padded envelope!
Again, I want to thank Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore for providing
these awesome Flight Bags to support the List Fund Raiser. Andy has gone
way beyond the call of duty with regard to his support of the Lists this
year and to show your gratitude I would ask that you have a look at his web
site and great media offerings. You'll find some excellent deals on some
very useful material. http://www.buildersbooks.com
And finally, I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a
Contribution so far this year! Your generosity and kindness is greatly
appreciated. If you've been putting off making a Contribution, now's a
great time show your appreciation in plenty of time to make it onto this
year's List of Contributors AND get your free gift with qualifying
Contribution!!!
List Contribution Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution/
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
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| From: | Charlie and Tupper England <cengland(at)netdoor.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Coaxial Ends |
Mike Comeaux wrote:
>
> Does anyone have a picture / diagram of how to
> install the ends on the coaxial for radios.
> Thanks in advance
> Mike Comeaux
> mcomeaux(at)cmc.net
>
The June 2002 issue of Kitplanes Magazine has an article with diagrams Showing
BNC connectors written by Jim Wier. Go to
http://www.rst-engr.com/kitplanes/
& scroll down to June 2002.
Charlie
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | All New List FAQs! |
Dear Listers,
I got to looking at the Email List FAQs (Frequently Asked Questions) today
and realized that they where miserably out of date. I spent a wad of time
today completely revising them and adding in documentation on all of the
many new features such as the List Browse and Photoshare. Many of the
little-known features are documented in there now, too, so even if you're a
seasoned List veteran, you might want to give it a read. Never know what
you might discover.
At the bottom of this message in the Trailer you will find a new link item
called "List FAQ" with a URL for this specific List. Just click on it and
print it out or read it online.
Don't forget that November is the List Fund Raiser month! The "2002 List
of Contributors" is just days away and I know you'll want to make sure your
name is on it!! Please make your Contribution today to support the
continued operation of these List Services!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Dear Listers,
There are only a few days left until the November List of Contributors. I
thought I'd take another opportunity to pass along some of the really nice
things people have been saying recently about the Lists and how much they
mean to them.
If you receive value from the Lists in the form of ideas, assistance,
comradery, moral support, inspiration, or just plain 'ol good
entertainment, then won't take a moment to make a Contribution to support
the continued operation and upgrade of them?
Secure List Contribution Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution
What does the List mean to you? Here's what some of your fellow
contributing List members have said...
------------------------- What Listers Are Saying -------------------------
Great service for aviation types like me.
Larry H
Best investment I've made.
Harley B
I've been on this list since around 1996 and used it to
help me finish my RV-6A three years ago. I'm still here
because I still learn from it and use it to help others
like me who may be where nobody else is building a RV.
Thanks for your service to our community. It's appreciated.
Jim S
[List] people are a great break away from politics, religion
and other sordid subjects.
Robert B
This site is a great confidence builder for the amateur builder.
Gene L
Great service!
Barry P
Very handy list to have, a good place for a beginner to
get great answers from those who already experienced it.
...sure enjoy reading it.
Joel R
...valuable service!
Chris & Indira K
This is the better than any morning paper - the best and
most frequent service that I use on the Internet. Great
job! This will make building the RV doable for me.
Pete E
I enjoy all of the ideas, suggestions and humor that comes
with this list. I don't think I could build my RV4 with
out everyone's help.
Ross S
GRRRRRRRRRRRREAT!
James W
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entertainment, passionate debate, and light-hearted back
slapping. I wouldn't be without it.
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...would still be looking for plans to hook-up s-tec auto
pilot without your service!
David S
The new [digest] format is good.
Graham S
Great information you can't get anywhere else. Lots of nice
people who have "Been there...done that."
George D
My normal morning routine:
1 Kiss "the princess"
2 Good cup of coffee
3 Log onto "List"
A wonderful means of exchanging ideas, asking questions,
gathering information, and sharing experiences.
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Great lists. Not only are the lists professionally and efficiently
managed, but the *people* on the lists are very helpful, friendly
and fun to chat with. Thank you for this wonderful resource.
Ihab A
Thanks a million, well maybe not a million!!! (:
Ken H
I need this fix every morning or I get grumpy...
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Very useful lists
Paul E
This communication medium that you created, nurtured and
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Jim J
The information I gleaned off the list has always been
helpful.
Kenneth B
I've been a subscriber to varied lists for several years
now. The knowledge provided has been extremely useful
throughout.
David P
Enjoy everyone's input even though I am not a
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Just laughin' and a scratchin'
Dennis N
It is a real asset and good for comic relief.
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Great info on the lists!
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I'm very new to the List but have already benefited
greatly.
Jim S
The "List" has been my best source for information
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state of the art, easy to use resource tool.
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I have saved a lot of grief and dollars from referencing
this site. It is truly an extension of Van's product
support.
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Look forward to the list each and every day.
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George R
Great list. The best out there on any subject.
Kevin H
Been on the list since 1998 and I still look forward to
reading the list every day. A most valuable tool. I have
picked up many useful tips during the construction of
my RV-4.
Jerry I
Thanks for all of your hard work on the lists. It is
one of the reasons I bought a CJ-6A. Without the
Yak-list, I believe it would have been much more
difficult to get all the information that I need
for safe operation and maintenance of this fine
aircraft.
David L
The List has been an amazing source of useful
information. I consider it one of my best builder
tools.
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An excellent channel of information. I have gained a
wealth of knowledge on both building and flying Kolb
aircraft.
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Enjoy the wealth of information that is shared.
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Fine service.
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[The] List is the first stop of the day. Made lot of
friends from it.
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The information I gleaned off the List has always been
helpful.
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Over the 3+ years that I have been building, I check it
several times each day. I have learned a lot of very
useful tips that have helped me in my building.
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Not only is it worth a contribution for the info gleaned
from it but the personalities alone are pure entertainment!
Stephen F
This is great stuff!!! Entertaining, too!! Fast answers
from those who really know...
Bob R
I am building an RV-9A and have received help from
the lists and occasionally been able to give help to
others.
Alden Van W
This list has saved me countless hours of work and worry
already, and I'm only halfway there! Undoubtedly the most
important aid I have yet found in this sometimes
intimidating process of building an aircraft.
Paul H
I've been a member since '96 and have learned so much from
the vast knowledge of the listers.
Gary Z
Outstanding List, exceptionally maintained.
David S
Thanks for all the improvements you've made this year. The
Photoshare feature definitely proves "one picture is worth
a thousand words".
Richard H
I finished my RV6A this year. It is a much better airplane
because of the help I found on the RV and Aeroelectric
Lists.
Dale W
Can't imagine building without the list.
Larry H
The list continues to be a great resource of information
and advice.
Jeff O
October 26, 2001 - November 28, 2002
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