Avionics-Archive.digest.vol-ao

August 28, 2008 - October 02, 2009



      Just hoping for some last chance advice before I send the radio out for a bench
      test.
      
      Thanks,
      
      Keith
      
      --------
      Wizard
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=198682#198682
      
      
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Subject: How to troubleshoot glide slope not workin
From: "apg86" <apg86(at)hotmail.com>
Date: Aug 28, 2008
I have 2 collins microline Nav's in the airplane and both glide slope are not working coild be a failure on the cable from the antenae to the nav? Thanks PS the radio shop all ready want an arm to start and the leg for final payment, :) the airplane is a Commander 690 thanks -------- Andrew P Geraghty Corona CA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 1379#201379 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Stan" <swperk(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: How to troubleshoot glide slope not working
Date: Aug 29, 2008
Hi Andrew, Yes, it could be a bad cable, but there are a couple of other things to check, too. Has the radome been removed (particularly if it was right around the time you started to have the glide slope problem)? The glide slope antenna is built into the radome, and the cable to the antenna must be disconnected to remove the radome. Sometimes it doesn't get reconnected when the radome goes back on. The other thing to check would be the splitter that is somewhere between the antenna and the two radios, probably right behind the instrument panel. Regards, Stan -----Original Message----- From: owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of apg86 Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 10:41 PM Subject: Avionics-List: How to troubleshoot glide slope not workin I have 2 collins microline Nav's in the airplane and both glide slope are not working coild be a failure on the cable from the antenae to the nav? Thanks PS the radio shop all ready want an arm to start and the leg for final payment, :) the airplane is a Commander 690 thanks -------- Andrew P Geraghty Corona CA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 1379#201379 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: How to troubleshoot glide slope not working
From: "apg86" <apg86(at)hotmail.com>
Date: Aug 29, 2008
swperk(at)earthlink.net wrote: > Hi Andrew, > > Yes, it could be a bad cable, but there are a couple of other things to > check, too. > > Has the radome been removed (particularly if it was right around the time > you started to have the glide slope problem)? The glide slope antenna is > built into the radome, and the cable to the antenna must be disconnected to > remove the radome. Sometimes it doesn't get reconnected when the radome goes > back on. > > The other thing to check would be the splitter that is somewhere between the > antenna and the two radios, probably right behind the instrument panel. > > Regards, > Stan > > -- We just bough the airplane, I will check the cable from the radome to instruments are is easy access in this airplane thank you -------- Andrew P Geraghty Corona CA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 1568#201568 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 30, 2008
From: "Bob" <rfg842(at)cox.net>
Subject: Re: ELT'S
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From: "Carlos Trigo" <trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt>
Subject: Garmin GTX-330 Installation Manual
Date: Sep 01, 2008
Does anybody have, or knows where to download from, the Installation Manual (not the User's Manual) for the Garmin GTX-330 Transponder? Help appreciated Carlos ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 01, 2008
Subject: Re: Garmin GTX-330 Installation Manual
From: Ron Quillin <rjquillin(at)gmail.com>
If it's for an OBAM and not certified A/C, contact Garmin and they will email the pdf. At 11:43 9/1/2008, you wrote: > >Does anybody have, or knows where to download from, the Installation >Manual (not the User's Manual) for the Garmin GTX-330 Transponder? > >Help appreciated >Carlos > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Carlos Trigo" <trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt>
Subject: Garmin GTX-330 Installation Manual
Date: Sep 02, 2008
Ron and group I already have it. Thanks Carlos _____ From: owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ron Quillin Sent: ter=E7a-feira, 2 de Setembro de 2008 1:50 Subject: Re: Avionics-List: Garmin GTX-330 Installation Manual If it's for an OBAM and not certified A/C, contact Garmin and they will email the pdf. At 11:43 9/1/2008, you wrote: Does anybody have, or knows where to download from, the Installation Manual (not the User=12s Manual) for the Garmin GTX-330 Transponder? Help appreciated Carlos ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 03, 2008
From: Eric Witherspoon <eric626m(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: King KY-97A schematic
Working on a homebuilt.- Could anyone provide me with the internal schema tic for a King KY-97A comm radio?- I have the install guide, but the tran smitter is out.- I have a ham radio operator / electronics expert-(also a pilot / home builder) who is willing to help with-maybe swapping out a transistor and get the thing going again. - Thanks, Eric eric626m at yahoo dot com=0A=0A=0A ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Project Almost Done - Cleaning House...
Date: Sep 04, 2008
From: "Don Honabach" <don(at)pcperfect.com>
After over 10 years I'm almost done with my Zodiac 601HDS project (yes, HDS) and I'm cleaning out/selling off the extras to make a little peace in the family... I've put up 2 Electric Gyros Indicators on eBay if anyone is interested: RCA15AK-1 14V Electric Directional Gyro (Lighted) http://tinyurl.com/6n66vm RCA26AK-1 14V Electric Attitude Indicator Gyro (Lighted) http://tinyurl.com/5nnfuu Both are brand new, have zero hours and were bought at R.C. Allen Booth at Oshkosh. Don Honabach Tempe, AZ 601HDS ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Mike Lord <lordm87(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: FW: Autopilot Problem
Date: Sep 08, 2008
I am looking for advice on how to troubleshoot the following problem with m y autopilot. My setup is as follows. I have a King KCS-55A Compass system with the KI-525A HSI indicator. This is coupled to an STEC 60-2 autopilot . Also connected to the HSI is a King KX-165 and Northstar M3 Approach GPS . The problem=2C which happened during my last flight is=3B when the autopilo t in set to the heading mode=2C it will not track to the bug setting=2C it will either roll to the left or right all the way to the aileron stops. Th e closer it is the bug setting the slower the roll and just about stops at the bug. The same thing appears to happen in the NAV mode when driven by t he VOR or GPS. I have checked and reseated all connections on the turn coordinator=2C auto pilot controller=2C roll computer and HSI with no luck. Thanks for the advice. Mike N1193D AG5B Tiger ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 08, 2008
From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: FW: Autopilot Problem
Mike, Same issue as what I'm having with my S-Tec System 30 except it is only to the left. S-Tec told me to check the outputs of my HSI (Century NSD1000) to match +- 5VDC depending on which side of the bug you're on. Haven't been able to do that as my GPSS module crapped out and I had to sent it in for repairs - it's back and I haven't had time to test it again..... I need to test that and the alt hold module - in case I need to reverse pins 3 and 4..... Check with S-Tec about what the specs should be for your King HSI... Let me know what you come up with... Ralph -----Original Message----- >From: Mike Lord <lordm87(at)hotmail.com> >Sent: Sep 8, 2008 2:21 PM >To: avionics-list(at)matronics.com >Subject: Avionics-List: FW: Autopilot Problem > > > >I am looking for advice on how to troubleshoot the following problem with my autopilot. My setup is as follows. I have a King KCS-55A Compass system with the KI-525A HSI indicator. This is coupled to an STEC 60-2 autopilot. Also connected to the HSI is a King KX-165 and Northstar M3 Approach GPS. > >The problem, which happened during my last flight is; when the autopilot in set to the heading mode, it will not track to the bug setting, it will either roll to the left or right all the way to the aileron stops. The closer it is the bug setting the slower the roll and just about stops at the bug. The same thing appears to happen in the NAV mode when driven by the VOR or GPS. > >I have checked and reseated all connections on the turn coordinator, autopilot controller, roll computer and HSI with no luck. > >Thanks for the advice. > >Mike >N1193D AG5B Tiger > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca>
Subject: FW: Autopilot Problem
Date: Sep 08, 2008
That sounds like a polarity reverse. Rather than going through all the block connections why not just reverse the polarity of the aileron actuator motor... Be sure to mark this change on your block interconnect diagram if you made one. Noel Sigtaturea Noel Loveys Campbellton, NL, Canada CDN AME intern, PP-Rec C-FINB, Kitfox III-A Aerocet 1100 floats noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca From: owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Lord Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 3:52 PM Subject: Avionics-List: FW: Autopilot Problem I am looking for advice on how to troubleshoot the following problem with my autopilot. My setup is as follows. I have a King KCS-55A Compass system with the KI-525A HSI indicator. This is coupled to an STEC 60-2 autopilot. Also connected to the HSI is a King KX-165 and Northstar M3 Approach GPS. The problem, which happened during my last flight is; when the autopilot in set to the heading mode, it will not track to the bug setting, it will either roll to the left or right all the way to the aileron stops. The closer it is the bug setting the slower the roll and just about stops at the bug. The same thing appears to happen in the NAV mode when driven by the VOR or GPS. I have checked and reseated all connections on the turn coordinator, autopilot controller, roll computer and HSI with no luck. Thanks for the advice. Mike N1193D AG5B Tiger ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Eric Tiethoff (HCCNet)" <j.e.tiethoff(at)hccnet.nl>
Subject: Re: FW: Autopilot Problem
Date: Sep 09, 2008
Are your baudrates correct ? Look in your manual fot the correct settings. From: Mike Lord Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 8:21 PM Subject: Avionics-List: FW: Autopilot Problem I am looking for advice on how to troubleshoot the following problem with my autopilot. My setup is as follows. I have a King KCS-55A Compass system with the KI-525A HSI indicator. This is coupled to an STEC 60-2 autopilot. Also connected to the HSI is a King KX-165 and Northstar M3 Approach GPS. The problem, which happened during my last flight is; when the autopilot in set to the heading mode, it will not track to the bug setting, it will either roll to the left or right all the way to the aileron stops. The closer it is the bug setting the slower the roll and just about stops at the bug. The same thing appears to happen in the NAV mode when driven by the VOR or GPS. I have checked and reseated all connections on the turn coordinator, autopilot controller, roll computer and HSI with no luck. Thanks for the advice. Mike N1193D AG5B Tiger ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca>
Subject: FW: Autopilot Problem
Date: Sep 08, 2008
The further you are off course the more deviation goes to the controller and the more power is fed to the aileron actuator. The problem is your aileron actuator is going the wrong way this can only be because either the inputs to the controller from the HSI are reversed or the power wires to the aileron actuator are reversed. One, not both, of these things are the problem. I recommended reversing the power wires to the actuator forgetting that most of the planes on this list are certified. For a certified plane triple check the polarity of the controller inputs from the HSI to the autopilot controller. If that is perfect, then reverse the polarity of the two wires going into the aileron actuator. Do not change any other wiring ( assuming everything else works properly). Sigtaturea Noel Loveys Campbellton, NL, Canada CDN AME intern, PP-Rec C-FINB, Kitfox III-A Aerocet 1100 floats noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca From: owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Eric Tiethoff (HCCNet) Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 8:20 PM Subject: Re: Avionics-List: FW: Autopilot Problem Are your baudrates correct ? Look in your manual fot the correct settings. From: Mike Lord <mailto:lordm87(at)hotmail.com> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 8:21 PM Subject: Avionics-List: FW: Autopilot Problem I am looking for advice on how to troubleshoot the following problem with my autopilot. My setup is as follows. I have a King KCS-55A Compass system with the KI-525A HSI indicator. This is coupled to an STEC 60-2 autopilot. Also connected to the HSI is a King KX-165 and Northstar M3 Approach GPS. The problem, which happened during my last flight is; when the autopilot in set to the heading mode, it will not track to the bug setting, it will either roll to the left or right all the way to the aileron stops. The closer it is the bug setting the slower the roll and just about stops at the bug. The same thing appears to happen in the NAV mode when driven by the VOR or GPS. I have checked and reseated all connections on the turn coordinator, autopilot controller, roll computer and HSI with no luck. Thanks for the advice. Mike N1193D AG5B Tiger href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Avionics-List">http://www.matronics .com/Navigator?Avionics-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca>
Subject: FW: Autopilot Problem
Date: Sep 08, 2008
Woops.... if this only happens ONLY when the heading hold is selected then the output from the HSI to the autopilot controller must be reversed. If the auto pilot always reverses the correct input then the actuator wires are reversed. Sigtaturea Noel Loveys Campbellton, NL, Canada CDN AME intern, PP-Rec C-FINB, Kitfox III-A Aerocet 1100 floats noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca From: owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Eric Tiethoff (HCCNet) Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 8:20 PM Subject: Re: Avionics-List: FW: Autopilot Problem Are your baudrates correct ? Look in your manual fot the correct settings. From: Mike Lord <mailto:lordm87(at)hotmail.com> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 8:21 PM Subject: Avionics-List: FW: Autopilot Problem I am looking for advice on how to troubleshoot the following problem with my autopilot. My setup is as follows. I have a King KCS-55A Compass system with the KI-525A HSI indicator. This is coupled to an STEC 60-2 autopilot. Also connected to the HSI is a King KX-165 and Northstar M3 Approach GPS. The problem, which happened during my last flight is; when the autopilot in set to the heading mode, it will not track to the bug setting, it will either roll to the left or right all the way to the aileron stops. The closer it is the bug setting the slower the roll and just about stops at the bug. The same thing appears to happen in the NAV mode when driven by the VOR or GPS. I have checked and reseated all connections on the turn coordinator, autopilot controller, roll computer and HSI with no luck. Thanks for the advice. Mike N1193D AG5B Tiger href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Avionics-List">http://www.matronics .com/Navigator?Avionics-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca>
Subject: FW: Autopilot Problem
Date: Sep 08, 2008
BTW did you draw up an interconnect diagram and can you scan it so we can see what/how you have your system installed. Noel From: owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Eric Tiethoff (HCCNet) Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 8:20 PM Subject: Re: Avionics-List: FW: Autopilot Problem Are your baudrates correct ? Look in your manual fot the correct settings. From: Mike Lord <mailto:lordm87(at)hotmail.com> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 8:21 PM Subject: Avionics-List: FW: Autopilot Problem I am looking for advice on how to troubleshoot the following problem with my autopilot. My setup is as follows. I have a King KCS-55A Compass system with the KI-525A HSI indicator. This is coupled to an STEC 60-2 autopilot. Also connected to the HSI is a King KX-165 and Northstar M3 Approach GPS. The problem, which happened during my last flight is; when the autopilot in set to the heading mode, it will not track to the bug setting, it will either roll to the left or right all the way to the aileron stops. The closer it is the bug setting the slower the roll and just about stops at the bug. The same thing appears to happen in the NAV mode when driven by the VOR or GPS. I have checked and reseated all connections on the turn coordinator, autopilot controller, roll computer and HSI with no luck. Thanks for the advice. Mike N1193D AG5B Tiger href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Avionics-List">http://www.matronics .com/Navigator?Avionics-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Chuck Deiterich" <cffd(at)pgrb.com>
Subject: GPS Data card
Date: Sep 24, 2008
I have a Garmin GPS/COM GNC 250XL. I really like it and it works very well. I only fly VFR and my data base is about 2001 (front panel removable data card). If anyone has replaced their 150XL or 250XL data card, I would interested in a more recent data card than I now have. Chuck D. N701TX ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 24, 2008
From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: UPSAT (Now Garmin-AT) MX20 updates
Has Jeppesen discontinued updates for the MX20 moving map software? All I can find on their site for the MX20 is JeppView for charts. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 24, 2008
From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [ExperimentalAvionics] UPSAT (Now Garmin-AT) MX20 updates
I called Jeppesen direct - it is still available - just not on their website. -----Original Message----- >From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen(at)earthlink.net> >Sent: Sep 24, 2008 12:27 PM >To: Avionics List >Cc: EXP-AVIONICS >Subject: [ExperimentalAvionics] UPSAT (Now Garmin-AT) MX20 updates > >Has Jeppesen discontinued updates for the MX20 moving map software? All I can find on their site for the MX20 is JeppView for charts. > > >------------------------------------ > >Yahoo! Groups Links > ><*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ExperimentalAvionics/ > ><*> Your email settings: > Individual Email | Traditional > ><*> To change settings online go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ExperimentalAvionics/join > (Yahoo! ID required) > ><*> To change settings via email: > mailto:ExperimentalAvionics-digest(at)yahoogroups.com > mailto:ExperimentalAvionics-fullfeatured(at)yahoogroups.com > ><*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > ExperimentalAvionics-unsubscribe(at)yahoogroups.com > ><*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 25, 2008
From: b e <bcrnfnp(at)sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: GPS Data card
Have you looked on ebay? They have several data cards listed out there. Barry RV9A Wings BeauDog Flight Services, Inc. Hobart Regional, Hobart OK ----- Original Message ---- From: Chuck Deiterich <cffd(at)pgrb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 11:05:19 AM Subject: Avionics-List: GPS Data card I have a Garmin GPS/COM GNC 250XL. I really like it and it works very well. I only fly VFR and my data base is about 2001 (front panel removable data card). If anyone has replaced their 150XL or 250XL data card, I would interested in a more recent data card than I now have. Chuck D. N701TX ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 26, 2008
From: Robin Hou <rmhou(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Sigma Tek HSI
Does anyone have any experience with Sigma Tek's HSI 1U445?- Is it a reli able unit?- How are the support?- Thanks in advance. - Robin Hou=0A=0A=0A ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Carlos Trigo" <trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt>
Subject: Transponder and Radio position
Date: Sep 29, 2008
Hi there Folks I am about to begin the installation of the Transponder (GTX-330) and the Comm Radio (SL-30) in my RV-9A's panel, and I wonder if there is any rule of thumb about their position in the central rack. In panels that I have seen, the Xpdr is usually at the bottom position, with the Radio immediately above. Which are the pros and cons of putting those 2 avionics at the bottom of the rack, and the Xpdr below or above the Radio? Carlos ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Bill Denton" <bdenton(at)bdenton.com>
Subject: Transponder and Radio position
Date: Sep 29, 2008
One guide for placing avionics is: "Which one do you touch most often?" Put those that you frequently touch in the most convenient places, keeping in mind that you will frequently need to look at a given unit while touching it. Thanks! Bill Denton bdenton(at)bdenton.com From: owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carlos Trigo Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 9:20 PM Subject: Avionics-List: Transponder and Radio position Hi there Folks I am about to begin the installation of the Transponder (GTX-330) and the Comm Radio (SL-30) in my RV-9A's panel, and I wonder if there is any rule of thumb about their position in the central rack. In panels that I have seen, the Xpdr is usually at the bottom position, with the Radio immediately above. Which are the pros and cons of putting those 2 avionics at the bottom of the rack, and the Xpdr below or above the Radio? Carlos ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 30, 2008
From: Carlos Gonzalez <carlosgonzalez(at)une.net.co>
Subject: Re: Avionics-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 09/28/08
Hi Carlos, I guess the advantage of this arrangement is that you leave space on the top of the rack for more "visual" or more used avionics like GPS, Nav,... Regards, Carlos Gonzalez ----- Original Message ----- From: "Avionics-List Digest Server" <avionics-list(at)matronics.com> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 1:55 AM Subject: Avionics-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 09/28/08 > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete Avionics-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the Avionics-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 08-09-28&Archive=Avionics > > Text Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 08-09-28&Archive=Avionics > > > =============================================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > =============================================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Avionics-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Sun 09/28/08: 1 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 06:21 PM - Transponder and Radio position (Carlos Trigo) > > > ________________________________ Message 1 > _____________________________________ > > > From: "Carlos Trigo" <trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt> > Subject: Avionics-List: Transponder and Radio position > > Hi there Folks > > > I am about to begin the installation of the Transponder (GTX-330) and the > Comm Radio (SL-30) in my RV-9A's panel, and I wonder if there is any rule > of > thumb about their position in the central rack. > > In panels that I have seen, the Xpdr is usually at the bottom position, > with > the Radio immediately above. > > Which are the pros and cons of putting those 2 avionics at the bottom of > the > rack, and the Xpdr below or above the Radio? > > > Carlos > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com 7:25 PM ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 30, 2008
From: david alberti <daberti(at)sbcglobal.net>
Subject: GI 106 /430
My 106 indicates exactly one tick to the left of course line when the built in course indicator in my 430 shows on course. I have checked the calibration setting where you set the reading to 150 degrees and it is spot on. The start up sequence routine shows half left and half up too like everything is ok. Is there one more calibration routine to sync the units? Is the sync to 150 degrees ony for the VOR mode? Dave ________________________________________________________________________________
From: G Vogt <teamgrumman(at)aol.com>
Subject: Re: GI 106 /430
Date: Oct 01, 2008
If a man has a watch, he will always know what time it is. If he has two watches, he will never be quite sure. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 30, 2008, at 7:51 PM, david alberti wrote: > > > > My 106 indicates exactly one tick to the left of course line when > the built in course indicator in my 430 shows on course. I have > checked the calibration setting where you set the reading to 150 > degrees and it is spot on. The start up sequence routine shows half > left and half up too like everything is ok. Is there one more > calibration routine to sync the units? Is the sync to 150 degrees > ony for the VOR mode? > > Dave > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 05, 2008
From: John Smith <zenithlist(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Collins TDR-950 & Narco 500 Help
I am looking for pinouts for Collins TDR-950 transponder & Narco 500 altitu de encoder so I can connect them together.- Does anyone have the pinouts? =0A=0A=0A ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 06, 2008
From: "D Wysong" <hdwysong(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Collins TDR-950 & Narco 500 Help
> I am looking for pinouts for Collins TDR-950 transponder & Narco 500 altitu > de encoder so I can connect them together.- Does anyone have the pinouts? They're available on the AeroElectric site, John: http://www.aeroelectric.com/Installation_Data/ See TDR950-950L.pdf and AR500-850.pdf. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Doug Ritter" <dougritter(at)frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: Collins TDR-950 & Narco 500 Help
Date: Oct 06, 2008
Try the attached pinouts Doug Ritter: ----- Original Message ----- From: "D Wysong" <hdwysong(at)gmail.com> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 9:01 PM Subject: Avionics-List: Re: Collins TDR-950 & Narco 500 Help > >> I am looking for pinouts for Collins TDR-950 transponder & Narco 500 >> altitu >> de encoder so I can connect them together.- Does anyone have the pinouts? > > They're available on the AeroElectric site, John: > > > http://www.aeroelectric.com/Installation_Data/ > > See TDR950-950L.pdf and AR500-850.pdf. > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Avmap EKP IV and XM weather
From: "annken100" <annken100(at)aol.com>
Date: Oct 07, 2008
I recently added the just released XM weather option on my EKP IV GPS. The problem I'm having is that I only receive METARs and nothing else. I'm hoping someone on this list has the same GPS and weather combo as I do so I can ask some questions and compare notes. Please email me at annken100(at)aol.com I have spoken with tech support from XM, Avmap, and WxWorx and so far I'm told that I am one of only three people who has this problem. Oddly enough, the three of us activated our receivers around the same time. Thank you, Ken Pavlou -------- 601 XL / Corvair Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 7837#207837 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: For Sale: BMA EFIS system
From: "kentb" <kent.d.byerley(at)tek.com>
Date: Oct 09, 2008
Blue Mountain Avionics EFIS Sport and Lite with AutoPilot. It has been in my plane two years and now I want to upgrade my panel. The Lite is version G3 and the Sport is G2, it is similar to what is currently being sold as the G4 Lite Plus. Original price was $12750.00. Have it all for only $6200.00. I am willing to sell the parts as follows AP $2500.00; Efis Sport $2500.00; Efis Lite $2000.00. Contact Kent Byerley at Byerley@web-ster.com or Phone 503-627-4045 (work) 503-706-2618 (cell). -------- Kent Byerley RV9A - IO320 - CS - Tipup Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 8053#208053 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 12, 2008
From: John Smith <zenithlist(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Collins TDR-950 & Narco 500 Help
Thank you all for pointing and providing info for the pinouts.- I will ma ke the wiring harness to connect the transponder & encoder next and powerin g on the devices.- Beside sending these devices to avionic shop, are ther e any testing instructions on what to look for and to confirm they are work ing or not?- I am somewhat knowledgable with electronics and have testing devices such as scope and frequency counter.=0A=0A=0A=0A----- Original Mes sage ----=0AFrom: Doug Ritter <dougritter(at)frontiernet.net>=0ATo: avionics-l ist(at)matronics.com=0ASent: Monday, October 6, 2008 6:34:26 PM=0ASubject: Re: Avionics-List: Re: Collins TDR-950 & Narco 500 Help=0A=0ATry the attached pinouts=0A=0ADoug Ritter:=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----- =0AFrom: "D Wysong" =0ATo: =0ASent: Mo nday, October 06, 2008 9:01 PM=0ASubject: Avionics-List: Re: Collins TDR-95 " =0A>=0A>> I am looking for pinouts for Collins TDR-95 0 transponder & Narco 500 =0A>> altitu=0A>> de encoder so I can connect the m together.- Does anyone have the pinouts?=0A>=0A> They're available on the AeroElectric site, John:=0A>=0A>=0A> http://www.aeroelectric.com/Installat ion_Data/=0A>=0A> See TDR950-950L.pdf- and- AR500-850.pdf.=0A>=0A>=0A> =0A>=0A> =0A=0A=0A=0A ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Vincent Palermo <vpalermo(at)tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Collins TDR-950 & Narco 500 Help
Date: Oct 12, 2008
Power up the system without the units plugged in and check the power and ground pins. Vincent Palermo vpalermo(at)tampabay.rr.com On Oct 12, 2008, at 12:04 PM, John Smith wrote: > Thank you all for pointing and providing info for the pinouts. I > will make the wiring harness to connect the transponder & encoder > next and powering on the devices. Beside sending these devices to > avionic shop, are there any testing instructions on what to look for > and to confirm they are working or not? I am somewhat knowledgable > with electronics and have testing devices such as scope and > frequency counter. > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Doug Ritter <dougritter(at)frontiernet.net> > To: avionics-list(at)matronics.com > Sent: Monday, October 6, 2008 6:34:26 PM > Subject: Re: Avionics-List: Re: Collins TDR-950 & Narco 500 Help > > Try the attached pinouts > > Doug Ritter: > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "D Wysong" <hdwysong(at)gmail.com> > To: > Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 9:01 PM > Subject: Avionics-List: Re: Collins TDR-950 & Narco 500 Help > > > > > >> I am looking for pinouts for Collins TDR-950 transponder & Narco > 500 > >> altitu > >> de encoder so I can connect them together.- Does anyone have the > pinouts? > > > > They're available on the AeroElectric site, John: > > > > > > http://www.aeroelectric.com/Installation_Data/ > > > > See TDR950-950L.pdf and AR500-850.pdf. > > > > > > > > > > > > _- > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > ====================== > _- > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > ====================== > _- > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > ====================== > _- > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > ====================== > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Carlos Trigo" <trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt>
Subject: GARMIN GPS 296 panel instalation
Date: Oct 12, 2008
For those of you who have ever installed a portable GARMIN GPS296 in your panel, using the optional Power/Data Cable, will you please enlighten me about: - White wire, labelled as "Alarm", what is it for? - Brown wire (labelled as "Voice(+) ) and Orange (labelled as Voice(-) ), are these to be connected to the aircraft Audio system? - have you used any of the "Data In" wires (Yellow or Green)? Carlos ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Andre Scholtz" <andre.scholtz(at)atsi.ie>
Subject: KR 85 Not indicating
Date: Oct 21, 2008
I have a KR 85 ADF with a KI225 indicator, using a KA42A antenna. The unit receives the signal both while in ADF mode or ANT mode. The pointer on the indicator just moves around slowly. I have tried another unit that works in another aircraft but no change. Another indicator makes no change. I have also tried another antenna and cable from antenna to indicator but no change. All wiring looks good. What could the fault be? Andre.scholtz(at)atsi.ie ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Bob Vandegrift <citabriapilot(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Intermittent GPS
Date: Oct 22, 2008
Hello Gang, I have a Northstar GPS 60 that has been working well until the other week when it simply would not find any satellites. At start up it runs through the self test everything OK then it starts searching for satellites says it has 4, 5, 6, etc then has 0. It will come back and find sats, navigate for a while then drop out again. I am thinking this is an antenna problem, can teardrop antennas go bad? can I swap with any GPS ant to test or do they have different requirements? Is there a coax cable that is best? Or is the problem elsewhere? Any thoughts , suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks Bob ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: For Sale Avionics
From: "skidmk" <skidmk(at)gmail.com>
Date: Oct 22, 2008
narco nav 825 TSO, yellow tagged working when removed. includes tray and connector. 1000.00 Narco ID-825 loc/gs indicator, yellow tagged working when removed, includes connector (for above) 800.00 Apollo 2001 NMS IFR (VFR now) yellow tagged working when removed includes tray and connector 350.00 King KT76A tso, yellow tagged working when removed (removed for digital upgrade). 600.00 All the above in excellent condition. email me off list Mike -------- Mike "Skidmk" Bourget Ottawa, Ontario Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 9859#209859 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Vincent Palermo <vpalermo(at)tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Intermittent GPS
Date: Oct 22, 2008
Bob I would check the coax, more than likely it is RG-58, if it checks bad replace with RG-142 or RG-400 and yes the antenna can go bad, not very often but it can. Vincent Palermo vpalermo(at)tampabay.rr.com On Oct 22, 2008, at 9:29 AM, Bob Vandegrift wrote: > > > > Hello Gang, > I have a Northstar GPS 60 that has been working well until the > other week when it simply would not find any satellites. At start up > it runs through the self test everything OK then it starts searching > for satellites says it has 4, 5, 6, etc then has 0. It will come > back and find sats, navigate for a while then drop out again. > I am thinking this is an antenna problem, can teardrop antennas go > bad? can I swap with any GPS ant to test or do they have different > requirements? Is there a coax cable that is best? Or is the problem > elsewhere? > Any thoughts , suggestions would be appreciated. > > Thanks > Bob > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 01, 2008
From: dralle(at)matronics.com
Subject: Matronics Email List Fund Raiser During November!
Dear Listers, Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operation and upgrade of the List services at Matronics. It's through soley through the Contributions of List members that these Matronics Lists are possible. You have probably noticed that there are no banner ads or pop-up windows on any of the Matronics Lists or related web sites such as the Forums site ( http://forums.matronics.com ), Wiki site ( http://wiki.matronics.com ), or other related pages such as the List Search Engine ( http://www.matronics.com/search ), List Browse ( http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse ), etc. This is because I believe in a List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely Airplanes and not about annoying advertisments. During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every few days reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. I ask for your patience and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages. The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all of the bills associated with running these lists. Your personal Contribution counts. Once again, this year I've got a terrific line up of free gifts to go along with the various Contribution levels. Most all of these gifts have been provided by some of the vary members and vendors that you'll find on Matronics Lists and have been either donated or provided at substantially discounted rates. This year, these generous people include Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric Connection (http://www.aeroelectric.com/), Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore (http://www.buildersbooks.com/), and Jon Croke of HomebuiltHELP (http://www.homebuilthelp.com/). These are extremely generous guys and I encourage you to visit their respective web sites. Each one offers a unique and very useful aviation-related product line. I would like publicly to thank Bob, Andy, and Jon for their generous support of the Lists again this year!! You can make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods this year including using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. All three methods afford you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying Contribution amount!! To make your Contribution, please visit the secure site below: https://www.matronics.com/contribution I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral support over the years. I know it sounds a little cliche, but you guys really do feel like family. Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 01, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Contribution Site URL Clarification
Dear Listers, In my List Fund Raiser kickoff email last night, I mistyped the URL for the *initial* Contribution web site and couple of people reported receiving SSL certificate errors. The actual payment entry pages where were correct, however, so there were no certificate issues that impacted payment data. I'm sorry for the confusion. Please use the following URL to start your List Contribution: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 03, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists...
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From: "Doug Dodson" <douglas.dodson(at)pobox.com>
Subject: TruTrak Autopilot For Sale
Date: Nov 04, 2008
- Doug I have a TruTrak 2-axis autopilot for sale. It has never been used. I am selling it to switch to the Dynon autopilot since I already have the Dynon EFIS. It is a D-200VSG controller with DSP-B pitch servo and DSB-B roll servo. TruTrak makes installation kits for many different aircraft. The D-200VSG is not current manufacture but has the same capability as the Digiflight II VSG (flat pack configuration). TruTrak still supports the D-200 series. In fact, they recently upgraded the gyro board on the controller at no charge despite having I bought it second hand myself. http://www.trutrakflightsystems.com/instruments.htm First $2250 takes it. That is basically the price of the two servos alone. List for the current generation Digiflight II VSG is $4725. E-mail me at: houdu(at)pobox.com Doug Dodson Glasair II-S FT Flight Test Engineer, CFI-A,S&ME/I/G ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 05, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: List Fund Raiser
A couple of years ago I implemented an automatic "squelch button" of sorts for the Fund Raiser messages. Here's how it works... As soon as a List member makes a Contribution through the Matronics Fund Raiser web site, he or she will instantly cease to receive these Fund Raiser messages for the rest of the month! Its just that simple. Don't you wish PBS worked that way! :-) I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware and software that are required to run a List Site like this. It also goes to pay for the commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the huge electric bill to keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered on. I run all of the Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which allows me to control and monitor every aspect of the system for the utmost in reliably and performance. Your personal Contribution matters because, when combined with other Listers such as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up and running. I accept exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand the pop-up ads and all other commercials that are so prevalent on the Internet these days and I particularly don't want to have it on my Email List sites. If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator [Note that there are certain circumstances where you might still see a Contribution related message. For example, if someone replies to one of the messages, when using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum. The system keys on the given email address and since most of these are anonymous public access methods, there is no simple way to filter them.] ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 06, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Reminder
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Date: Nov 10, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Fund Raiser List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution
Today! Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its sort of my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors (LOC)? As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems at least - if not a whole lot more - valuable as a building/flying/recreating/entertainment tool as your typical magazine subscription! Please take minute and assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics PO Box 347 Livermore CA 94551-0347 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Cessna 200 nav-O-matic autopilot
From: "richmo" <richmo66(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Nov 10, 2008
HI Looking for installation and operation manuals for this unit. thanks Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=213466#213466 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 12, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists
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Date: Nov 14, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Fund Raiser Lagging Last Year By Over 30%...
As of the 13th, the Fund Raiser is currently about 30% behind last year in terms of the number of Contributions. Yet, oddly the number of messages posted per day is up by 10 to 20% on the average. It costs real money to run these Lists and they are supported 100% though your Contributions during the Fund Raiser. Won't you please take a minute right now to make your Contribution to keep these Lists up and running? Contribution Page: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Admin. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 16, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: What's My Contribution Used For?
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Date: Nov 18, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: What Members Are Saying...
Dear Listers, November is the Annual Matronics List Fund Raiser. The Lists are supported solely through your generous Contributions during this time. Please make your Contribution today and pick up a really nice free gift at this same time: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Listers have been including some really nice comments regarding what the Lists mean to them along with their Contributions this year. I've included a few of them below. Please read them over and see if some perhaps echo your feelings as well. Thank you for your support this year! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Best bargain in the entire industry!! -Owen B Every year your lists are better, sure #1 in e-mail list in the world. -Gary G Thank you for an awesome site! -Ashley M Your lists are important to me and well worth paying for. -Calvin A Thank you for providing such and informative and ad free environment to learn by. -Myron H As always, a valuable and extremely useful resource. Stephen T As always, a great service. -Reade G Very much appreciate this site and the communications it has enabled between builders. -Larry M This service is worth every penny. -Robert S Great site! Thanks a ton for its functionality! -Peter B The RV-10 list feels like my community. -Dave S The lists are fantastic, a great source! -Jimmy Y I've learned a lot from the List. -Gabriel F A wonderful resource. -Gerald G Well done. -Richard N Years of good service. -William M Valuable service. -Keith H The site is quite helpful. -Jon M Very interesting List that I read form the beginning. -Alain L A well managed site. -Carl B Great service. -Svein Kare J Still the most useful program on the computer. -Fergus K Great contribution to my project! -Robert K Thanks for keeping a great list. -Dt G The List continues to provide excellent information. -Tony C This is a wonderful resource that has easily saved me a bunch on my build-time. -Ralph C Thank you for providing a great service. The Zenith builder's community would be in sad shape without the Zenith-List's. -Terrence P I really do get pleasure out of reading the List every day. -Bill V Great source of information. -Arthur V Thanks for a great service. Very enjoyable. -Louis B You know we all could not do without your support!! -James S Great resource! -Douglas D Thanks for the great service. -John B ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 20, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Behind By 21% - Advertising May Be Needed...?
Dear Listers, The percentage of people making a Contribution to support the Lists this year is currently lagging behind last year by approximately 21%! I'm hoping that everyone is just waiting until the last minute to show their support... ;-) Please remember that it is solely your direct Contributions that keep these Lists up and running and most importantly - AD FREE! If the members don't want to support the Lists directly, then I will likely have to start adding advertisements to offset the costs of running the Lists. But I *really* don't want to have to start doing that. I really like the non-commercial atmosphere here and I think that a lot of the members appreciate that too. Please take a moment to make a Contribution today in support of the continued ad-free operation of all these Lists: http://www.matronics.com/contribution I want to send out a word of appreciation to all of the members that have already made their generous Contribution to support the Lists! Thank you! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 22, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: LOC
Dear Listers, Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its sort of my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors (LOC)? As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems at least - if not a whole lot more - valuable as a building/flying/recreating/entertainment tool as your typical magazine subscription! Please take minute and assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by popping a personal check in the mail to: Matronics Email Lists c/o Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore CA 94551-0347 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Best regards, Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: digital rpm gauge question
From: "keithmckinley" <keith.mckinley(at)townisp.com>
Date: Nov 22, 2008
Hello, I purchased an MGL E-3 digital engine gauge to display EGT. The gauge is capable of displaying rpm as well. Since there is a single wire to from the unit (for rpm) I would think it is impossible to show the rpm on both mags as well as individually during a mag check. I can connect to the P-lead of either mag and get an indication but it is only for that mag of course. Am I missing something..... Thanks, Keith pdf attched -------- Keith McKinley 700 HS KFIT Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=215790#215790 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/e3_422.pdf ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 22, 2008
From: Doug McNutt <douglist(at)macnauchtan.com>
Subject: Re: digital rpm gauge question
> >I purchased an MGL E-3 digital engine gauge to display EGT. The >gauge is capable of displaying rpm as well. > >Since there is a single wire to from the unit (for rpm) I would >think it is impossible to show the rpm on both mags as well as >individually during a mag check. I can connect to the P-lead of >either mag and get an indication but it is only for that mag of >course. If you get a different reading from two mags, both of which are connected to the same camshaft, you're not measuring RPM, you're checking for a bad mag. You could put a double throw switch in the line. -- --> A fair tax is one that you pay but I don't <-- ________________________________________________________________________________
From: CardinalNSB(at)aol.com
Date: Nov 23, 2008
Subject: Garmin 300 pinout needed?
I have a Garmin 300xl installation manual, does anybody know if the pinout is the same as the 300GNC? or Can anybody please email a pinout for the 300GNC Garmin? Thanks, Skip **************One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com %26icid=aolcom40vanity%26ncid=emlcntaolcom00000001) ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Dave Steward" <dave(at)hondahaven.com>
Subject: Re: Garmin 300 pinout needed?
Date: Nov 23, 2008
It has been my experience that if you email Garmin Tech support, they will kindly email you a full pdf installation manual for your specific unit. I have done this on at least 3 occasions, and they have been extremely helpful. Dave Subject: Avionics-List: Garmin 300 pinout needed? I have a Garmin 300xl installation manual, does anybody know if the pinout is the same as the 300GNC? or Can anybody please email a pinout for the 300GNC Garmin? Thanks, Skip ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 24, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Value of the List...
If you look forward to checking your List email everyday (and a lot of you have written to say that you do!), then you're probably getting at least $20 or $30 worth of Entertainment from the Lists each year. You'd pay twice that for a subscription to some lame magazine or even just a single dinner out. Isn't the List worth at least that much to you? Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support the Lists? Contribution Page: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Again, I want to say THANK YOU to everyone that has made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser!! These Lists are made possible exclusively through YOUR generosity!! Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Admin. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 26, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just A Few More Days...
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Date: Nov 28, 2008
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From: "Tom Goddard" <tomgoddard(at)ns.sympatico.ca>
Subject: comm tx causing avionics fluctuations
Date: Nov 28, 2008
Hi Noel, We have worked most of this out. I know it has been a few months. We are going to externally mount the antennas. We did a trial test with a dummy load and then with the antenna hooked to a long coax and tried different external mounts and all the RFI went away. We are fairly certain then that all our trouble is radiated emission. I have some questions: 1. How far apart should the external antennas be=85 what=92s the minimum distance 2. Can they share the same ground plane as long as they both make ground with it 3. Can the TXP antenna share the same ground plane 4. Do you have an antenna recommendation? 5. Should one be top mounted and one bottom mounted on the fuselage tail cone? Tom _____ From: owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Noel Loveys Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 10:53 AM Subject: RE: Avionics-List: comm tx causing avionics fluctuations Tom: Just a few Ideas. Just as the radiating element of your antenna should be 1/4 wave length the ground plane should also be at least that size. If it isn't don't worry you can stick a ground plane inside your fuselage with contact cement using aluminium foil for the ground plane itself. Make sure it is connected to the braid side of the coax at the antenna end. The ground plane should also be as close as reasonably possible to perpendicular to the radiating element. The advice you got to check out your antenna system sounds good to me. Transmitters aren't too bright and when you feed their output to a miss-matched antenna system the fool transmitter works harder to get the signal out. This means it draws a lot more current and of course heats up. The end result can be a burned out final amplifier (expensive) or a popped circuit breaker. (Cheap if you don't reset it) Most of the other things you mentioned can be easily attributed to the same antenna problem. High current draw by the transmitter will cause the voltage regulator to cut in possibly to the point before an over voltage indication.... BTW you generally get that OV indication after the alternator has been shut down to protect it. It just crossed my mind that I have seen high draw on a transmitter. It occurred when there was a crack in the centre conductor inside the coax to the antenna. Do a continuity test on the centre conductor of the coax. When you do that continuity test try wiggling the connectors while hooked up to the VOM. Your problem can also be caused by a cold solder joint or a bad crimp in a connector. Finally my pet peeve is bad grounds. Aircraft electrical systems need to have as close to perfect ground as possible. You would be surprised the effect of a bit of black corrosion under the grounding strap that connects your engine to the frame across the engine mount will have on your whole system. Make sure any grounding straps are clean under the nuts/bolts that connect them to the various parts of the frame. Make sure there is good continuity from the grounding posts behind your instrument panel to the engine block. Also make sure the voltage regulator is mounted on a clean surface. Many newer solid state regulators require the case have a good ground. You may want to borrow another transmitter and temporarily connect it to your antenna system and the AC power. If you get the same effect on transmit then you will know for sure it is your installation and not the transmitter itself. The advice to get your antenna system checked out is capitol. Avionics techs have equipment that can do amazing things. Ten minutes on a Cushman could end up saving many $$ chasing a problem. To recap: *Put your antenna system under the microscope. That's probably where your problem is located. *Check the continuity of all grounding straps. a good idea to check on an annual basis. *If possible try another transmitter (not a hand held) in your plane You only need to connect the antenna and aircraft power and see if you get the same problem. If this doesn't fix the problem then you are going to have to get some local expertise... Preferably with equipment. Good places to look for help are Telco, Amateur radio, Television stations. Only certified avionics shops should open avionics cases or make modifications to avionics systems. You should keep that in mind if you have a certified plane. Where do you keep your plane?? if at YHZ you may want to contact Uli Huber at Atlantic AV in Springfield he has technicians who should be able to get you going in short order...... Bring money ;-) Hope this helps. Noel Loveys, RPP, AME intern Campbellton, Newfoundland, Canada Tel: 709-261-2705 HYPERLINK "mailto:noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca"noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca -----Original Message----- From: owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Goddard Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 10:09 PM Subject: Avionics-List: comm tx causing avionics fluctuations Does any one have experience with comm tx causing transient changes in their engine analyzers egt/cht and voltages in glasairs or other fiberglass airframes? As we continue to debug our panel this problem is now up for a solution. I have heard that it may be "antenna standing wave reflections"? Our vert servo on the TruTrak is affected during Tx as well. We assumed that the other systems being affected were due to the close proximity of the comm antenna coax and the aircraft charging system as they all run through the center console of our Glasair III for a short distance in close proximity. Maybe I am wrong and it is more to do with the Standing Wave Reflection? Our other bugs caused by the comm. Tx are: 1. transient voltage rise on both buses from 14.1 to 14.6 (this is a real voltage change measured by and external meter) 2. egt and cht values decrease by 300 and 100 degrees F respectively (these are obviously not real temp changes) 3. Ray Allan trim and flap indicators flicker (the trim and flaps don't actually move) The following is something Tim Hedding of B&C alternators sent me: 1. Check the transmitting antenna systems for SWR. Check that the antenna, transmission line and transmitter output are of the same impedance and that the connections and ground planes are good. Use an SWR bridge or antenna analyzer to check the antenna system matching / efficiency. There must be some other glass airplanes out there that have seen some of these quirks. Tom Tom Goddard 100 Miner Lane Grand Pre, N.S. B0P 1M0 9026702511 Cell 9025427315 Fax 08/10/2007 9:04 AM href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Avionics-List">http://www.matr onics .com/Navigator?Avionics-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com 09/10/2007 8:44 AM Checked by AVG. 11/28/2008 8:17 AM ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca>
Subject: comm tx causing avionics fluctuations
Date: Nov 28, 2008
I believe the recommended distance antennae should be is greater than three feet. (for COM.Nav antennae) Some planes have two phased antennae for com. The installation instructions will specify the distance between the antennae. That is done on some installations to give a directional quality to the com radio. VOR antennae are usually horizontal and therefore are usually mounted on the tail of the plane. XPNDR antenna are usually placed on the bottom of the airplane because their primary purpose is to communicate with ground stations. They should also be limited to about 200 mi in range so that they don't cause distance interference. The ground plane is actually a form of reflector so the short answer is yes several antennae, even on several different frequencies, can share a ground plane. In fact on metal planes the whole of the skin is considered to be ground plane. Tube an rag planes the whole frame is considered to be ground plane. Transponders use different frequencies than con/nav antennae. Therefore their antennae are shorter. Use the antenna recommended with your transponder. Com radios are usually vertically polarized antennae mounted on the top of the plane where they can reach other planes and distant ground based towers. So the long and short of it is Com on top.. XPNDR on the bottom and VOR on the tail. GPS if you have it will have the antenna on top where it can see the sky, RADALT will be on the belly of the plane. ADF goniometer (loop) antenna can be either on top or bottom of the plane the same is true of the ADF sense (long wire) antenna. Without the aid of an avionics shop I wouldn't try to install an HF rig in a plane... but if you do 80 meters is a blast at even 1000'. Hope this helps Noel From: owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Goddard Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 1:01 PM Subject: RE: Avionics-List: comm tx causing avionics fluctuations Hi Noel, We have worked most of this out. I know it has been a few months. We are going to externally mount the antennas. We did a trial test with a dummy load and then with the antenna hooked to a long coax and tried different external mounts and all the RFI went away. We are fairly certain then that all our trouble is radiated emission. I have some questions: 1. How far apart should the external antennas be. what's the minimum distance 2. Can they share the same ground plane as long as they both make ground with it 3. Can the TXP antenna share the same ground plane 4. Do you have an antenna recommendation? 5. Should one be top mounted and one bottom mounted on the fuselage tail cone? Tom _____ From: owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Noel Loveys Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 10:53 AM Subject: RE: Avionics-List: comm tx causing avionics fluctuations Tom: Just a few Ideas. Just as the radiating element of your antenna should be 1/4 wave length the ground plane should also be at least that size. If it isn't don't worry you can stick a ground plane inside your fuselage with contact cement using aluminium foil for the ground plane itself. Make sure it is connected to the braid side of the coax at the antenna end. The ground plane should also be as close as reasonably possible to perpendicular to the radiating element. The advice you got to check out your antenna system sounds good to me. Transmitters aren't too bright and when you feed their output to a miss-matched antenna system the fool transmitter works harder to get the signal out. This means it draws a lot more current and of course heats up. The end result can be a burned out final amplifier (expensive) or a popped circuit breaker. (Cheap if you don't reset it) Most of the other things you mentioned can be easily attributed to the same antenna problem. High current draw by the transmitter will cause the voltage regulator to cut in possibly to the point before an over voltage indication.... BTW you generally get that OV indication after the alternator has been shut down to protect it. It just crossed my mind that I have seen high draw on a transmitter. It occurred when there was a crack in the centre conductor inside the coax to the antenna. Do a continuity test on the centre conductor of the coax. When you do that continuity test try wiggling the connectors while hooked up to the VOM. Your problem can also be caused by a cold solder joint or a bad crimp in a connector. Finally my pet peeve is bad grounds. Aircraft electrical systems need to have as close to perfect ground as possible. You would be surprised the effect of a bit of black corrosion under the grounding strap that connects your engine to the frame across the engine mount will have on your whole system. Make sure any grounding straps are clean under the nuts/bolts that connect them to the various parts of the frame. Make sure there is good continuity from the grounding posts behind your instrument panel to the engine block. Also make sure the voltage regulator is mounted on a clean surface. Many newer solid state regulators require the case have a good ground. You may want to borrow another transmitter and temporarily connect it to your antenna system and the AC power. If you get the same effect on transmit then you will know for sure it is your installation and not the transmitter itself. The advice to get your antenna system checked out is capitol. Avionics techs have equipment that can do amazing things. Ten minutes on a Cushman could end up saving many $$ chasing a problem. To recap: *Put your antenna system under the microscope. That's probably where your problem is located. *Check the continuity of all grounding straps. a good idea to check on an annual basis. *If possible try another transmitter (not a hand held) in your plane You only need to connect the antenna and aircraft power and see if you get the same problem. If this doesn't fix the problem then you are going to have to get some local expertise... Preferably with equipment. Good places to look for help are Telco, Amateur radio, Television stations. Only certified avionics shops should open avionics cases or make modifications to avionics systems. You should keep that in mind if you have a certified plane. Where do you keep your plane?? if at YHZ you may want to contact Uli Huber at Atlantic AV in Springfield he has technicians who should be able to get you going in short order...... Bring money ;-) Hope this helps. Noel Loveys, RPP, AME intern Campbellton, Newfoundland, Canada Tel: 709-261-2705 noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca -----Original Message----- From: owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Goddard Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 10:09 PM Subject: Avionics-List: comm tx causing avionics fluctuations Does any one have experience with comm tx causing transient changes in their engine analyzers egt/cht and voltages in glasairs or other fiberglass airframes? As we continue to debug our panel this problem is now up for a solution. I have heard that it may be "antenna standing wave reflections"? Our vert servo on the TruTrak is affected during Tx as well. We assumed that the other systems being affected were due to the close proximity of the comm antenna coax and the aircraft charging system as they all run through the center console of our Glasair III for a short distance in close proximity. Maybe I am wrong and it is more to do with the Standing Wave Reflection? Our other bugs caused by the comm. Tx are: 1. transient voltage rise on both buses from 14.1 to 14.6 (this is a real voltage change measured by and external meter) 2. egt and cht values decrease by 300 and 100 degrees F respectively (these are obviously not real temp changes) 3. Ray Allan trim and flap indicators flicker (the trim and flaps don't actually move) The following is something Tim Hedding of B&C alternators sent me: 1. Check the transmitting antenna systems for SWR. Check that the antenna, transmission line and transmitter output are of the same impedance and that the connections and ground planes are good. Use an SWR bridge or antenna analyzer to check the antenna system matching / efficiency. There must be some other glass airplanes out there that have seen some of these quirks. Tom Tom Goddard 100 Miner Lane Grand Pre, N.S. B0P 1M0 9026702511 Cell 9025427315 Fax 08/10/2007 9:04 AM href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Avionics-List">http://www.matronics .com/Navigator?Avionics-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com 09/10/2007 8:44 AM Checked by AVG. 11/28/2008 8:17 AM ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 29, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: What Listers Have Been Saying
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Date: Nov 30, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Last "Official" Day Of The List Fund Raiser!
Dear Listers, Its November 30th and that means three things:.. 1) Today I am now officially 45 years old... 2) It marks that last "official" day of this year's List Fund Raiser! 3) Its the last day I will be bugging everyone for a whole year! If you use the Lists and enjoy the content and the no-advertising, no-spam, and no-censorship way in which they're run, please make a Contribution today to support their continued operation and upkeep. Your $20 or $30 goes a long way to keep the List bills paid. I will be posting the List of Contributors next week so make sure your name is on it! Thank you to everyone that has made a Contribution so far this year! It is greatly appreciated. http://www.matronics.com/contribution Best regards, Matt Dralle Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "sean garrison" <sean(at)hangerg.com>
Subject: Autopilot (used)
Date: Dec 05, 2008
Hello all, I am hoping that someone might have a line on where I might be able to obtain a used TSO'd autopilot for my Piper Cherokee. I am looking at replacing the turn coordinator and thought maybe I can replace it with an autopilot. Sean ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Peter Rees" <peter.rees01(at)tiscali.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Autopilot (used)
Date: Dec 05, 2008
MessageHi Sean Have you tried Dave at Skycraft - they have loads of spares. http://www.sky-craft.co.uk/acatalog/Chop_Shop.html you could try E-bay of course but no idea what paperwork it would come with. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: sean garrison To: avionics-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 7:00 PM Subject: Avionics-List: Autopilot (used) Hello all, I am hoping that someone might have a line on where I might be able to obtain a used TSO'd autopilot for my Piper Cherokee. I am looking at replacing the turn coordinator and thought maybe I can replace it with an autopilot. Sean ________________________________________________________________________________
From: G Vogt <teamgrumman(at)aol.com>
Subject: Apollo SL-60 for sale
Date: Dec 05, 2008
$2000 w/new data base Sent from my iPhone On Dec 5, 2008, at 12:19 PM, "Peter Rees" wrote: > Hi Sean > > Have you tried Dave at Skycraft - they have loads of spares. > http://www.sky-craft.co.uk/acatalog/Chop_Shop.html > > you could try E-bay of course but no idea what paperwork it would > come with. > > Peter > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: sean garrison > To: avionics-list(at)matronics.com > Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 7:00 PM > Subject: Avionics-List: Autopilot (used) > > Hello all, I am hoping that someone might have a line on where I > might be able to obtain a used TSO=99d autopilot for my Piper Cherok ee > . I am looking at replacing the turn coordinator and thought maybe I > can replace it with an autopilot. > > > Sean > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/ch ref= > "http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Avionics-List">http://www.matronics.co m/Navigator?Avionics-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > =========== =========== =========== =========== ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 08, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: List of Contributors 2008
Dear Listers, This year's Fund Raiser has drawn to a close and I want to thank everyone that so generously made a contribution this year in support of the Matronics Email List and Forum operation. Your generosity keeps the wheels on this cart and I truly appreciate the many kind words of encouragement and financial reimbursement. If you haven't yet made a Contribution in support of this year's Fund Raiser, please feel free to do so. The great List Fund Raiser gifts will be available on the Contribution site for a little while longer, so hurry and make your Contribution today and still get your great gift! Once again, the URL for the Contribution web site is: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by personal check to: Matronics / Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore CA 94551-0347 I would like to thank Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore ( http://www.buildersbooks.com ), Jon Croke of HomebuiltHELP ( http://www.homebuilthelp.com ) and Bob Nuckolls of AeroElectric ( http://www.aeroelectric.com ) for their extremely generous support during this year's Fund Raiser through the contribution of discounted merchandise. These are great guys that support the aviation industry and I encourage each and every Lister to have a look at their products. Thank you Andy, Jon and Bob!! Your support is very much appreciated! And finally, below you will find a web link to the 2008 List of Contributors current as of 12/7/08! Have a look at this list of names as *these* are the people that make all of these List services possible! I can't thank each of you enough for your support and great feedback during this year's Fund Raiser! THANK YOU! http://www.matronics.com/loc/2008.html I will be shipping out all of the gifts around the end of December. In most cases, gifts will be shipped via US Postal Service. Once again, thank you for making this year's List Fund Raiser successful! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: King KT76 tso transponder....ambient light sensor adjustment
From: "skywagon" <skywagon(at)charter.net>
Date: Dec 10, 2008
My KT76 transponder sits on the bottom of my radio stack. As such, in daylight flights, it's ambient cabin lighting sensor "senses" that it is operating in evening/low light conditions and dims down the transponder radar pulse return lamp such that it can barely be seen in daylight operation. The sensor is operational as reflecting bright light on it, the pulse flash lamp comes up in brilliance. I have not been able to find a schematic that shows this lamp control circuit. I am assuming that that the circuit contains a bias control pot. that when located can be tweaked to allow the pulse return lamp to blink at a higher intensity. Any help would be greatly appreciated..... Dave Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=218835#218835 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry?
Date: Dec 25, 2008
Folks, I get monthly Jeppesen updates for my GX60 and MX20 GPS map displays. Am I required to log the software revision and install date in the aircraft logbook? If so, What would the entr look like? Thanks, Ralph RV6A N822AR 0hrs getting ready for refresher training and waiting for the weather...... ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 25, 2008
Subject: Re: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry?
From: Ron Quillin <rjquillin(at)gmail.com>
Got that new update subscription for Christmas? Yes you are. See the following citations for content and form. Ron Q. At 06:38 12/25/2008, you wrote: >Folks, > >I get monthly Jeppesen updates for my GX60 and >MX20 GPS map displays. Am I required to log the >software revision and install date in the >aircraft logbook? If so, What would the entr look like? You are permitted to keep your data base current by the following section: Appendix A to Part 43=97Major Alterations, Major Repairs, and Preventive Maintenance (c) Preventive maintenance. Preventive maintenance is limited to the following work, provided it does not involve complex assembly operations: (32) Updating self-contained, front instrument panel-mounted Air Traffic Control (ATC) navigational software data bases (excluding those of automatic flight control systems, transponders, and microwave frequency distance measuring equipment (DME)) provided no disassembly of the unit is required and pertinent instructions are provided. Prior to the unit's intended use, an operational check must be performed in accordance with applicable sections of part 91 of this chapter. 43.9 specifies what is required for a logbook entry. =A7 43.9 Content, form, and disposition of maintenance, preventive maintenance, rebuilding, and alteration records (except inspections performed in accordance with part 91, part 125, =A7135.411(a)(1), and =A7135.419 of this chapter). (a) Maintenance record entries. Except as provided in paragraphs (b) and (c) of this section, each person who maintains, performs preventive maintenance, rebuilds, or alters an aircraft, airframe, aircraft engine, propeller, appliance, or component part shall make an entry in the maintenance record of that equipment containing the following information: (1) A description (or reference to data acceptable to the Administrator) of work performed. (2) The date of completion of the work performed. (3) The name of the person performing the work if other than the person specified in paragraph (a)(4) of this section. (4) If the work performed on the aircraft, airframe, aircraft engine, propeller, appliance, or component part has been performed satisfactorily, the signature, certificate number, and kind of certificate held by the person approving the work. The signature constitutes the approval for return to service only for the work performed. ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Astrotech AT420000 LC-2 Circuit Diagram WANTED
From: "Thruster87" <alania(at)optusnet.com.au>
Date: Dec 25, 2008
Hi Can anyone supply or know where to get a circuit diagram for the Astrotech AT420000 LC-2 Chronometer,Mines not working Cheers and Season Greetings Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=221155#221155 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Don Curry" <currydon(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Handheld GPS
Date: Dec 29, 2008
I'm currently running Anywheremap on an iPAQ Hx4700 and I'm very pleased with it. However, because the Hx4700's uses Windows Mobile 2003, I can't download the latest map program from Anywheremap; it requires WM5 or higher. In the past, people who upgraded their Hx4700s to WM5 had all kinds of problems, but those problems were all supposed to have been taken care of with Microsoft's latest release, WM6.1. So the questions are: have any Anywheremap/Hx4700 users downloaded WM6.1; how did you do it; and how do you like it? Thanks, Don ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Update from 56
From: "jetech" <av8tor(at)hughes.net>
Date: Jan 01, 2009
Hello My business partner and I own an aircraft maintenance company. We are working towards the restoration side of the trade and would like to feature updated avionics and electrical systems as an option to original equipment. We have our company 1956 Tripacer that we are using as a learning tool and advertisement. The plane is down to the bare frame and I am starting the planning process for the electrical system. We are looking for ideas on updating the electrical system. we plan on all new wiring, single point ground, and possibly EFIS or a variation. The generator is coming off and an alternator is going on. We would like to replace the original nav light/dimmer combination switch and possibly re-design the aux fuel transfer system which is a pull cable with a switch (pull the knob - the cable opens the fuel valve and the switch turns on the pump). Parts for these older planes are getting harder to find and are quite expensive, this is our reason for wanting to update the systems plus technology has given us better products to work with. This isn't an experimental plane so we will have to do paperwork on everything we do. I would appreciate your thoughts and comments Gary Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=222194#222194 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Bruce Gray" <Bruce(at)glasair.org>
Subject: Update from 56
Date: Jan 01, 2009
Have you run these ideas by your local FSDO? You're in for a rude shock. Bruce www.Glasair.org -----Original Message----- From: owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of jetech Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 12:04 PM Subject: Avionics-List: Update from 56 Hello My business partner and I own an aircraft maintenance company. We are working towards the restoration side of the trade and would like to feature updated avionics and electrical systems as an option to original equipment. We have our company 1956 Tripacer that we are using as a learning tool and advertisement. The plane is down to the bare frame and I am starting the planning process for the electrical system. We are looking for ideas on updating the electrical system. we plan on all new wiring, single point ground, and possibly EFIS or a variation. The generator is coming off and an alternator is going on. We would like to replace the original nav light/dimmer combination switch and possibly re-design the aux fuel transfer system which is a pull cable with a switch (pull the knob - the cable opens the fuel valve and the switch turns on the pump). Parts for these older planes are getting harder to find and are quite expensive, this is our reason for wanting to update the systems plus technology has given us better products to work with. This isn't an experimental plane so we will have to do paperwork on everything we do. I would appreciate your thoughts and comments Gary Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=222194#222194 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: G Vogt <teamgrumman(at)aol.com>
Subject: Re: Update from 56
Date: Jan 01, 2009
Nothing is impossible. There are a number of 6 cylinder Tigers out there. I just completed an STC for a completely new, firewall forward, fiberglass cowling for a Tiger. It took 8 years (from concept to completion) and over $100,000, but it's finished. The only problem you might run into is the EFIS. Get a DER that knows what he's doing (that's the hard part). It might take a while but it will be worth it; if only for the satisfaction of having done it. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 1, 2009, at 9:30 AM, "Bruce Gray" wrote: > > Have you run these ideas by your local FSDO? You're in for a rude > shock. > > Bruce > www.Glasair.org > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com > [mailto:owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of jetech > Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 12:04 PM > To: avionics-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Avionics-List: Update from 56 > > > Hello > My business partner and I own an aircraft maintenance company. We are > working towards the restoration side of the trade and would like to > feature > updated avionics and electrical systems as an option to original > equipment. > > We have our company 1956 Tripacer that we are using as a learning > tool and > advertisement. The plane is down to the bare frame and I am starting > the > planning process for the electrical system. > > We are looking for ideas on updating the electrical system. we plan > on all > new wiring, single point ground, and possibly EFIS or a variation. The > generator is coming off and an alternator is going on. > > We would like to replace the original nav light/dimmer combination > switch > and possibly re-design the aux fuel transfer system which is a pull > cable > with a switch (pull the knob - the cable opens the fuel valve and > the switch > turns on the pump). > > Parts for these older planes are getting harder to find and are quite > expensive, this is our reason for wanting to update the systems plus > technology has given us better products to work with. > > This isn't an experimental plane so we will have to do paperwork on > everything we do. > > I would appreciate your thoughts and comments > > Gary > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=222194#222194 > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Update from 56
From: "jetech" <av8tor(at)hughes.net>
Date: Jan 01, 2009
I understand the concern of working with FSDO but there is no point in talking with them until we have design data worked out. Presentation, research, and fact are key in pushing major alterations through. We have a good FSDO and my partner is a DAR and has worked with them extensively. If we can present some good design ideas I think we have a good chance getting approval. With these old airplanes being restored to like new or better and an ever decreasing supply of original parts I think the FAA is going to see more pressure to allow updating and modifications. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=222221#222221 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: G Vogt <teamgrumman(at)aol.com>
Subject: Re: Update from 56
Date: Jan 01, 2009
There is always part 121 Sent from my iPhone On Jan 1, 2009, at 12:33 PM, "jetech" wrote: > > I understand the concern of working with FSDO but there is no point > in talking with them until we have design data worked out. > > Presentation, research, and fact are key in pushing major > alterations through. We have a good FSDO and my partner is a DAR and > has worked with them extensively. > > If we can present some good design ideas I think we have a good > chance getting approval. > > With these old airplanes being restored to like new or better and an > ever decreasing supply of original parts I think the FAA is going to > see more pressure to allow updating and modifications. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=222221#222221 > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Bob Gibfried" <rfg842(at)cox.net>
Subject: Tripacer update
Date: Jan 02, 2009
Two schools of thought. Some owners like everything original and there are a lot of shops rebuilding and restoring some of the original parts. My personal Tripacer is being updated as well as I can without resorting to all of the time and 337s necessary for a major conversion. New carter stack panel, 60 amp alternator, led cabin lights, KMD 150 GPS, etc. Would be interested in your updates. Bob, Wichita ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 02, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: GPS Serial Data to Garmin GTX-327 Transponder
Listers, I've tried sending two different sources of NEMA 0183 data at 4800/9600/19200/38400/57600 baud rates to my Garmin GTX-327 on both serial input ports 1 (db25 Pin 2) and port 2 (db25 pin 19), and configured for "GPS" input. But I don't get anything on the 327 serial input test display. I have been successful at getting AirData Z-format from the GRT EFIS at 9600 baud into either of the GTX-327 serial ports, so the ports are good. The GTX-327 just won't seem to see the GPS data for some reason. Am I doing something wrong? Has anyone else tried this successfully? Thanks! Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880 N998RV ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: GPS Serial Data to Garmin GTX-327 Transponder
Date: Jan 02, 2009
From: teamgrumman(at)aol.com
Call Jeff at (661) 949-8300 -----Original Message----- From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> Sent: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 10:39 am Subject: Avionics-List: GPS Serial Data to Garmin GTX-327 Transponder Listers, I've tried sending two different sources of NEMA 0183 data at 4800/9600/19200/38400/57600 baud rates to my Garmin GTX-327 on both serial input ports 1 (db25 Pin 2) and port 2 (db25 pin 19), and configured for "GPS" input. But I don't get anything on the 327 serial input test display. I have been successful at getting AirData Z-format from the GRT EFIS at 9600 baud into either of the GTX-327 serial ports, so the ports are good. The GTX-327 just won't seem to see the GPS data for some reason. Am I doing something wrong? Has anyone else tried this successfully? Thanks! Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880 N998RV ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 02, 2009
From: Doug McNutt <douglist(at)macnauchtan.com>
Subject: Re: GPS Serial Data to Garmin GTX-327 Transponder
>I've tried sending two different sources of NEMA 0183 data at >4800/9600/19200/38400/57600 baud rates to my Garmin GTX-327 on both >serial input ports 1 (db25 Pin 2) and port 2 (db25 pin 19), and >configured for "GPS" input. But I don't get anything on the 327 >serial input test display. I have been successful at getting >AirData Z-format from the GRT EFIS at 9600 baud into either of the >GTX-327 serial ports, so the ports are good. The GTX-327 just won't >seem to see the GPS data for some reason. > >Am I doing something wrong? Has anyone else tried this successfully? I recently had experience with a Garmin 425 GPS (a tiny one not really for aircraft use) that claimed to put out RS232 compliant signals. What I discovered, with an oscilloscope, was a signal level that was "low" at about +150 mV and high at about +4.5 V with a fairly high internal resistance that had problems at 1 mA output levels. Without careful grounding at the pins of the GPS the +150 mV was even worse. RS232-C, which is the only official RS232 spec I can afford right now calls for a negative going level for the low value and Garmin simply does NOT meet that. There are some newer RS232 specifications around that might describe Garmin's output level but when I asked all I got was "RTFM" and the PDF manual simply says RS232 compliant. I placed a 1.5 volt dry cell in series with Garmin's output with a polarity that subtracted 1.5 volts from all signals. The resulting data stream went negative and was acceptable to the old Macintosh I was working with at the time. Some USB to RS232 converters would work and others would not. You seem to be talking about the Garmin as a receiver rather than a transmitter and I have no idea how well Garmin's "RS232 compliant" receiver behaves. I do doubt that you will get an authoritative answer from them. -- --> A fair tax is one that you pay but I don't <-- ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Tripacer update
From: "jetech" <av8tor(at)hughes.net>
Date: Jan 03, 2009
The Williams dual toe brake kit is a good mod. Vortex Generators, droop wing tips are also good. Still working on a list of mods during the rebuild. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=222525#222525 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: CardinalNSB(at)aol.com
Date: Jan 03, 2009
Subject: DIY transponder bench test
I only own a volt/ohm multimeter, I can borrow an oscilloscope if that makes any difference. How can I DIY bench test a transponder, at least to see if the cavity tube is good? If good, I will take to a shop for a formal test. Thanks, Skip **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 03, 2009
From: Gordon Arbeitman <gordona23(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: Garmin "Aviation" data protocol
Has anyone successfully output flightplan data from a UPSAT GX50/60 to a Garmin 496. The 496 docs state that the unit receives "Garmin proprietary AVIATION DATA protocol" only. When I look at the format of the data that is sent by a 430, it is ALMOST exactly the same as that which is sent by a GX50/60. Was this originally an Apollo data format. If so, will the GX50 talk to the 496? Or are the few small differences enough to keep them apart ? Is there any definitive paper on this ? As a last resort, I'll try calling Garmin and their Apollo support folks. Thanks for any help. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Doug Dodson" <douglas.dodson(at)pobox.com>
Subject: Garmin "Aviation" data protocol
Date: Jan 03, 2009
Mine works. I didn't do the cable install or configure the units, but I do know it does work. My local avionics tech put the power/data cable in my Mooney for $100 plus the cost of the cable. Douglas L. Dodson, Jr. Glasair II-S FT Flight Test Engineer, CFI-A/S&ME,I,G -----Original Message----- From: owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gordon Arbeitman Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 5:58 PM Subject: Avionics-List: Garmin "Aviation" data protocol Has anyone successfully output flightplan data from a UPSAT GX50/60 to a Garmin 496. The 496 docs state that the unit receives "Garmin proprietary AVIATION DATA protocol" only. When I look at the format of the data that is sent by a 430, it is ALMOST exactly the same as that which is sent by a GX50/60. Was this originally an Apollo data format. If so, will the GX50 talk to the 496? Or are the few small differences enough to keep them apart ? Is there any definitive paper on this ? As a last resort, I'll try calling Garmin and their Apollo support folks. Thanks for any help. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Greg Young" <gyoung@cs-sol.com>
Subject: Garmin "Aviation" data protocol
Date: Jan 03, 2009
I've got my GX-60 hooked to both by MX-20 and 396 using the same serial TX from the GX. When I set the flight plan on the GX it shows on both the MX and 396. The flight plan page of the 396 shows the flight plan name as "AVIATION IN". You can override it if you want to see something different on the 396. Works great. Regards, Greg Young > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com > [mailto:owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf > Of Gordon Arbeitman > Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 7:58 PM > To: avionics-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Avionics-List: Garmin "Aviation" data protocol > > --> > > Has anyone successfully output flightplan data from a UPSAT > GX50/60 to a > Garmin 496. The 496 docs state that the unit receives "Garmin > proprietary AVIATION DATA protocol" only. When I look at the > format of the data that is sent by a 430, it is ALMOST > exactly the same as that which is sent by a GX50/60. Was > this originally an Apollo data format. > If so, will the GX50 talk to the 496? Or are the few small > differences > enough to keep them apart ? > > Is there any definitive paper on this ? As a last resort, I'll try > calling Garmin and their Apollo support folks. Thanks for any help. > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 04, 2009
From: Gordon Arbeitman <gordona23(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: Garmin "Aviation" data protocol
Thanks to those who answered. I had read (somewhere ?) that the GX50 to 396/496 wouldn't work. Thanks for setting me straight. I'll wire it up next week, while the plane is down for annual. ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: DIY transponder bench test
From: "jetboy" <sanson.r(at)xtra.co.nz>
Date: Jan 04, 2009
sorry you can't test much at home on a transponder. Many units do not transmit when in 'test' or 'ident' so even if you have a reception device handy you wont find anything. However if you have an antenna connected and the unit gets interrogated by other sources you may be able to hear the HV power supply whistling under load as the cavity tube sends the reply. If its all hooked up to the encoder you may be able to get a check from a friendly TCAS equipped plane or a fellow aircraft owner that has a passive alert system available. Do not put any equipment or body parts too close to the antenna unless you were about to replace them anyway. Ralph, radio tech & EMR worker -------- Ralph - CH701 / 2200a Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=222926#222926 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 05, 2009
From: Werner Schneider <glastar(at)gmx.net>
Subject: Re: Handheld GPS
Hello Don, sorry was not very active over Xmas and as I'm not seen any answer here my experience. I'm running PocketFMS (as Anywhere Map is not so useful outside the US) on my Hx4700 and did change autum 2007 from WM2003 to WM6.0 and it was a difference which was noticeable, mostly by freeing some memory. 6.0 for the 4700 is a non official version, but running fine, very stable, faster and does not loose all your settings when the battery goes flat. You can see some perf tests here: <http://www.pocketfms.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3954> The description how to upgrade is seen here <http://forum.brighthand.com/showthread.php?s=151039929fbc914bba3cdba863cd00e4&t=246529> (read carefully and reread before you start) I had some difficulties to find the image, let me know if you can not find it I might still have it somewhere. Good luck and have fun! Werner Don Curry wrote: > > Im currently running Anywheremap on an iPAQ Hx4700 and Im very > pleased with it. However, because the Hx4700s uses Windows Mobile > 2003, I cant download the latest map program from Anywheremap; it > requires WM5 or higher. In the past, people who upgraded their Hx4700s > to WM5 had all kinds of problems, but those problems were all supposed > to have been taken care of with Microsofts latest release, WM6.1. So > the questions are: have any Anywheremap/Hx4700 users downloaded WM6.1; > how did you do it; and how do you like it? > > Thanks, > > Don > > * > > * ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca>
Subject: Re: DIY transponder bench test
Date: Jan 05, 2009
Remember if your encoder is not TCAS and not mode C it possibly can give low flying transport planes a good fright if you are anywhere near a flight path. Best idea is to send the Xpndr to a shop for testing. They have the proper testing apparatus and I generally only takes a few seconds. Easier than that is to take a short flight and see if ATC copies your Xpndr. Noel -----Original Message----- From: owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of jetboy Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 3:06 AM Subject: Avionics-List: Re: DIY transponder bench test sorry you can't test much at home on a transponder. Many units do not transmit when in 'test' or 'ident' so even if you have a reception device handy you wont find anything. However if you have an antenna connected and the unit gets interrogated by other sources you may be able to hear the HV power supply whistling under load as the cavity tube sends the reply. If its all hooked up to the encoder you may be able to get a check from a friendly TCAS equipped plane or a fellow aircraft owner that has a passive alert system available. Do not put any equipment or body parts too close to the antenna unless you were about to replace them anyway. Ralph, radio tech & EMR worker -------- Ralph - CH701 / 2200a Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=222926#222926 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: John DeCuir <jadecuir(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Terra TX 760D pinout needed
Date: Jan 10, 2009
I'm swapping out my TX 720 with a TX760D, and I need the pinout for the 760. I think it's the same, but I'd like to be sure. Can somebody scan their manual or send a PDF or link to the pinout diagram? John DeCuir N204CP, RV4 Salinas, CA ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Ian Dewhirst" <idewhirst(at)indtechnology.com>
Subject: Terra TX 760D pinout needed
Date: Jan 10, 2009
Hi John, I posted the install manual at www.indtechnology.com/gknc/760DIM.pdf Cheers -- Ian -----Original Message----- From: owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John DeCuir Sent: January 10, 2009 1:28 PM Subject: Avionics-List: Terra TX 760D pinout needed I'm swapping out my TX 720 with a TX760D, and I need the pinout for the 760. I think it's the same, but I'd like to be sure. Can somebody scan their manual or send a PDF or link to the pinout diagram? John DeCuir N204CP, RV4 Salinas, CA ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "David LLoyd" <skywagon(at)charter.net>
Subject: King KT-76 tso Transponder schematic needed
Date: Jan 10, 2009
I am trying to determine the lamp dimmer trimmer circuit for the "response" lamp when the transponder detects it is being interrogated and responds.... Any manual, circuits or schematic pages or instructions would be greatly appreciated.... David L., Oregon ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 11, 2009
From: Gordon Arbeitman <gordona23(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: KLN 89B
Does anyone have a wiring diagram for the PC connection on a KLN 89B ? I have a unit that is not wired to the panel. What are the connectors and pinout ? Thanks. ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Apollo/UPS SL-60 for sale
Date: Jan 14, 2009
From: teamgrumman(at)aol.com
I have an SL-60 for sale. =C2-It's complete with tray and antenna. =C2-I 've been using it since I bought it in 2004. =C2-I have installed a 430W a nd would like to sell the SL-60. =C2-There are a lot of things I like abou t the SL-60. =C2- I'm asking $1500 without a new database or $1700 with. =C2-I will consider any offer. Gary ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Mike Cingari <mcingari(at)gmail.com>
Subject: AMP CPC Series 2, HDP-20, D-sub machined pin crimper
Date: Jan 15, 2009
Does anyone know of a high quality crimper that will work with the AMP CPC Series 2 (AMP part # 205089-1 & 205090-1), HDP-20 d-sub machined pins and sockets? Thanks for your help, Mike ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 16, 2009
From: "D Wysong" <hdwysong(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: AMP CPC Series 2, HDP-20, D-sub machined pin crimper
> Does anyone know of a high quality crimper that will work with the AMP > CPC Series 2 (AMP part # 205089-1 & 205090-1), > HDP-20 d-sub machined pins and sockets? The most expensive and least complicated route is to buy a new AMP 601966-1 crimper and AMP 601966-5 positioner from any of the online electronics shops (Mouser, Newark, Allied). That'll set you back about $600. Ouch. More complicated and less expensive routes require a cross reference of the AMP part #'s to MIL spec #'s. Those are as follows: 205089-1 Pin is a M39029/64-369. 205090-1 Socket is a M39029/63-368. We use DMC tools in our shop. Pics can be seen at https://www.dmctools.com/store/catalog.asp. You have a few options depending on what style of crimper you want. These can be verified using DMCs online cross reference tool to the M39029 part #'s: The AF8 crimper needs the TP585 positioner for these contacts. The AFM8 crimper needs the K13-1 positioner for these contacts. The MH860 crimper needs the 86-30-1 positioner for these contacts. Buying these tools new from DMC will set you back about $250. However, they regularly show up on eBay for around $150. We got lucky and found our AFM8 and positioner at a local military/electronics surplus shop for around $80 and they work like new. Hope this helps, D ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: SL-60 for sale
Date: Jan 18, 2009
From: teamgrumman(at)aol.com
I have an SL-60 for sale. =C2-It's complete with tray and antenna. =C2-I 've been using it since I bought it in 2004. =C2-I have installed a 430W a nd would like to sell the SL-60. =C2-There are a lot of things I like abou t the SL-60. =C2- I'm asking $1500 without a new database or $1700 with. =C2-I will consider any offer. PS. =C2-Look at it this way. =C2-It's a great com with the ability to mo nitor the standby frequency. =C2-You'd pay more than $1500 for a new com a nd you're getting the GPS for free. =C2- ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 24, 2009
From: "Ron Quillin <recent" <rjquillin(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Terra TRT250D
Looking for a maintenance manual for a Terra TRT250D transponder. Unit has what seems to be a dead display. Hard or soft copy, will pay for copy costs. Thanks Ron Q. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 24, 2009
From: Nancy Ghertner <nghertner(at)verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Terra TRT250D
On 1/24/09 10:05 PM, "Ron Quillin wrote: > Terra TRT250D transponder http://www.esscoaircraft.com/Terra_Corp_TPX_720_Hand_Trans_p/2366.htm ftp://stcpub2:austin(at)24.227.190.27/Publications/TerraByTrimble/250DIM.PDF - >From a google search. Regards, Lory Ghertner Glasair N494U ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 24, 2009
From: "Ron Quillin <recent" <rjquillin(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Terra TRT250D
Thanks Lory, But unfortunately both those are only ops/install and not maintenance manuals. AEA appears to have the maintenance manual for download to AEA members, should there be one on the list. www.aea.net/Tech_Pubs/FFS/Secure/Index.pdf listed on page 13 of the pdf index. Ron At 19:37 1/24/2009, you wrote: >On 1/24/09 10:05 PM, "Ron Quillin wrote: > >Terra TRT250D transponder > > >http://www.esscoaircraft.com/Terra_Corp_TPX_720_Hand_Trans_p/2366.htm > >ftp://stcpub2:austin(at)24.227.190.27/Publications/TerraByTrimble/250DIM.PDF - > > >From a google search. > >Regards, > > Lory Ghertner > >Glasair N494U ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 02, 2009
From: Jay Maynard <jmaynard(at)conmicro.com>
Subject: KX170/A/B schematics?
I've got one of each of the King KX170, KX170A, and KX170B, and I'm trying to get one going as a hangar monitor radio. (I'm not even gonna hook up a mic.) I'd like to have the NAV radio play out the same speaker as the COM radio, so I can turn it on (or up, in the case of the KX170) and listen to the AWOS on the on-field VOR. In my playing, I've discovered that the NAV radio audio does play out the speaker output, but at a low volume. I'd like to make it the same as the COM radio. Ideally, I'd also like to lay hands on a schematic for the radio for something less than the $100+ a service manual goes for online. Suggestions? -- Jay Maynard, K5ZC, PP-ASEL, AGI http://www.conmicro.com http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net Fairmont, MN (KFRM) (Yes, that's me!) AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC http://www.tronguy.net/N55ZC.shtml ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 02, 2009
From: "Ron Quillin <recent" <rjquillin(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: KX170/A/B schematics?
Lacking some other offer, I've found that <http://myworld.ebay.com/ebaymotors/avionicstec/>avionicstec or contact him directly at avionicstec at hotmail dot com on eBay has some nice manuals on CD at reasonable prices. At 17:00 2/2/2009, you wrote: > >I've got one of each of the King KX170, KX170A, and KX170B, and I'm trying >to get one going as a hangar monitor radio. (I'm not even gonna hook up a >mic.) I'd like to have the NAV radio play out the same speaker as the COM >radio, so I can turn it on (or up, in the case of the KX170) and listen to >the AWOS on the on-field VOR. > >In my playing, I've discovered that the NAV radio audio does play out the >speaker output, but at a low volume. I'd like to make it the same as the COM >radio. Ideally, I'd also like to lay hands on a schematic for the radio for >something less than the $100+ a service manual goes for online. > >Suggestions? >-- >Jay Maynard, K5ZC, PP-ASEL, AGI http://www.conmicro.com >http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net >Fairmont, MN (KFRM) (Yes, that's me!) >AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC http://www.tronguy.net/N55ZC.shtml > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca>
Subject: KX170/A/B schematics?
Date: Feb 02, 2009
I=92m just thinking out loud here but the reason your Nav beacons and identifiers may be low is they are supposed to have separate antennae. I assume you did have both com and Nav antennae connected when you tested and not the com antenna alone. Noel From: owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ron Quillin http://myworld.ebay.com/ebaymotors/avionicstec/> or contact him directly at avionicstec at hotmail dot com on eBay has some nice manuals on CD at reasonable prices. At 17:00 2/2/2009, you wrote: I've got one of each of the King KX170, KX170A, and KX170B, and I'm trying to get one going as a hangar monitor radio. (I'm not even gonna hook up a mic.) I'd like to have the NAV radio play out the same speaker as the COM radio, so I can turn it on (or up, in the case of the KX170) and listen to the AWOS on the on-field VOR. In my playing, I've discovered that the NAV radio audio does play out the speaker output, but at a low volume. I'd like to make it the same as the COM radio. Ideally, I'd also like to lay hands on a schematic for the radio for something less than the $100+ a service manual goes for online. Suggestions? -- Jay Maynard, K5ZC, PP-ASEL, AGI http://www.conmicro.com <http://www.conmicro.com/> http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net Fairmont, MN (KFRM) (Yes, that's me!) AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC http://www.tronguy.net/N55ZC.shtml Avionics-List Email Forum - http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Avionics-List ; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - http://forums.matronics.com ; - List Contribution Web Site - ; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. http://www.matronics.com/contribution =========== ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 02, 2009
From: Jay Maynard <jmaynard(at)conmicro.com>
Subject: Re: KX170/A/B schematics?
On Mon, Feb 02, 2009 at 11:05:43PM -0330, Noel Loveys wrote: > I?m just thinking out loud here but the reason your Nav beacons and > identifiers may be low is they are supposed to have separate antennae. I > assume you did have both com and Nav antennae connected when you tested and > not the com antenna alone. I have the radios on the bench hooked up to a service monitor (a Marconi 2966). The service monitor was connected to the NAV antenna input for that test. I got the same result on both the KX170 and KX170A, which is what made me think it was a design issue. I'm going to let the KX170A run overnight; I don't know how long the radios have sat, so I'll let the capacitors re-form. When I first hooked it up, it took about 7 microvolts to break the squelch; it improved to 3.4 microvolts after running for 20 minutes or so. That's pretty anemic, but I'm not that worried, since I mainly want to listen to the local traffic on CTAF. -- Jay Maynard, K5ZC, PP-ASEL, AGI http://www.conmicro.com http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net Fairmont, MN (KFRM) (Yes, that's me!) AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC http://www.tronguy.net/N55ZC.shtml ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 03, 2009
From: Jay Maynard <jmaynard(at)conmicro.com>
Subject: Re: KX170/A/B schematics?
Next dumb question: There are 4 pins on the big connector labeled AUX AUDIO (1-4), pins 36, 37, 15, and 16. The tray I have has two of them connected together and one brought out and taped off. What are they used for? -- Jay Maynard, K5ZC, PP-ASEL, AGI http://www.conmicro.com http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net Fairmont, MN (KFRM) (Yes, that's me!) AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC http://www.tronguy.net/N55ZC.shtml ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 03, 2009
From: "Ron Quillin <recent" <rjquillin(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: KX170/A/B schematics?
AUX audio inputs from other devices. Perhaps the attached schematic will assist. Ron Q. At 15:43 2/3/2009, you wrote: > >Next dumb question: There are 4 pins on the big connector labeled AUX AUDIO >(1-4), pins 36, 37, 15, and 16. The tray I have has two of them connected >together and one brought out and taped off. What are they used for? >-- >Jay Maynard, K5ZC, PP-ASEL, AGI http://www.conmicro.com >http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net >Fairmont, MN (KFRM) (Yes, that's me!) >AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC http://www.tronguy.net/N55ZC.shtml ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 04, 2009
From: Doug McNutt <douglist(at)macnauchtan.com>
Subject: Re: KX170/A/B schematics?
I have been working off list with Jay. The results are some schematic scans and other stuff that is available on: <ftp://ftp.macnauchtan.com/king/> If anyone else is interested please feel free to download. I will be adding to the file list for the next couple of days based on Jay's requests but the scans take some time. I have enough room available on the site for a month or so but it will have to come down one day. I remain a firm believer in free access to manufacturers' data on parts no longer in production or otherwise supported but I'm not so sure Bendix-King lawyers agree with me. -- --> A fair tax is one that you pay but I don't <-- ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 18, 2009
From: Gordon Arbeitman <gordona23(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: Garmin 430 Aviation data format
A few months back, I asked if anyone had wired up a 430/530 to "talk" to a UPSAT Gx50/60. Two people replied that they had such a combo working but that the installation had been done by a 3rd party. If either of those two folks is on the list, please contact me. I'd like to pick your brains, since it looks like there is a slight difference in the data output from a GX series vs that from a 430. UPSAT tech support also says it will not work. I'm willing to put in some work to fix the problem but I don't want to waste time if it's already been solved. Thanks for any help you can provide. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 21, 2009
From: Tom Hutchison <tom.hutchison@pilot-rock.net>
Subject: BMA EFIS/One for Sale on E-Bay
I am very reluctantly selling my Blue Mountain Avionics EFIS/One with AutoPilot I purchased in 2003 for my Express 2000 project. This project has run out of time and money so I need to part with this awesome piece of avionics gear. It is currently listed on e-bay at: *http://tinyurl.com/de7fqh . *I have set the reserve price WAY LESS than half my investment. Someone will pick up a real steal. Good luck. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Mar 05, 2009
Subject: Dynon Avionics
From: John Long <johnlong63(at)gmail.com>
I am a new contributor on this list and am building an RV8. While I don't plan on doing hard IFR in the aircraft, I do want equipment that would allow it if the need arises. I am thinking about the Dynon family of equipment and want to know of any experiences, good or bad, that anyone might have with the equipment? And as long as we are talking about it, good or bad experiences on installation? If you do have it, what sort of back up equipment? Thanks John Long ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Dynon Avionics
From: "N395V" <Bearcat(at)bearcataviation.com>
Date: Mar 05, 2009
Go to www.vansairforce.net lots of info on this topic in many threads -------- Milt 2003 F1 Rocket 2006 Radial Rocket Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=233347#233347 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Mar 05, 2009
From: Tim Shankland <tshankland(at)sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Dynon Avionics
John, I have installed the Dynon D10A have been flying for over a year and have had not a problem. If you get the remote compass and temperature probe you get the airspeed compensated for altitude and temperature. I think their equipment is great and plan to purchase the autopilot addition. Tim Shankland John Long wrote: > I am a new contributor on this list and am building an RV8. > > While I don't plan on doing hard IFR in the aircraft, I do want > equipment that would allow it if the need arises. > > I am thinking about the Dynon family of equipment and want to know of > any experiences, good or bad, that anyone might have with the > equipment? And as long as we are talking about it, good or bad > experiences on installation? If you do have it, what sort of back up > equipment? > > Thanks > > John Long > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Mar 21, 2009
From: Ron Quillin <rjquillin(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Gyro repair houses
Not sure I've seen instrument repair houses discussed before, at least not recently, so I'll ask for any updates. Any good/bad experiences with vacuum attitude gyros/flight director repair/overhauls? Spicifically, but not limited to, a CFS/AIM 52C77 internally lit, single cue FD. Not looking for speed, just quality at a reasonable price. TIA Ron Q. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: 8MB cards for GX60
Date: Mar 22, 2009
I had the opportunity to pick up an 8MB card which is supposed to be compatible with my GX60. It is originally designed (like the 4MB cards) to work in a Cisco router. My Jeppesen skybound adapter won't recognize it. Any suggestions? I'll probably call Jeppesen Tech support in the AM. I already know that the card works with my GX60 as I have put an older database on it, plugged it in, passed the diagnostics, and flown successfully. Ralph RV6A N822AR @ N06 7.5 hrs ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Mar 23, 2009
From: Louis Willig <larywil(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Gyro repair houses
At 09:43 PM 3/21/2009, you wrote: >Not sure I've seen instrument repair houses discussed before, at >least not recently, >so I'll ask for any updates. >Any good/bad experiences with vacuum attitude gyros/flight director >repair/overhauls? >Spicifically, but not limited to, a CFS/AIM 52C77 internally lit, >single cue FD. >Not looking for speed, just quality at a reasonable price. > >TIA > >Ron Q. Ron, I live in Philadelphia, but have been very successful with a place called AIRTECH INSTRUMENT CO INC 8490 Perimeter Rd S Seattle,WA 98108 (206) 767-6040 in Seattle. Ask for "Debbi. She is amazing. She knows her stuff, and who to ask if she doesn't know. Good luck. Louis I Willig 1640 Oakwood Dr. Penn Valley, PA 19072 610 668-4964 RV-4, N180PF 190HP IO-360, C/S prop ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: isolation circuit
From: "jamesneely" <neelyjame(at)gmail.com>
Date: Mar 24, 2009
(Please excuse the double post. I also posted this on the aeroelectric list) I have a flightline fl-760 and the manual says that both mikes go hot on transmit. That doesn't seem a like a great idea, particularly in a noisy cockpit. They mention an optional isolation relay board, but apparently they never did produce it, so I have to make up my own. The problem is that while I can solder just fine, I suck at designing circuits. Has anyone made one of these boards, or has a schematic that I can work from? or any source for buying such beast? Here's the diagram provided by Flightline: thanx, James Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=236018#236018 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/fl_760_wiring_diagram_934.jpg ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Mar 24, 2009
From: Doug McNutt <douglist(at)macnauchtan.com>
Subject: Re: isolation circuit
>I have a flightline fl-760 and the manual says that both mikes go >hot on transmit. That doesn't seem a like a great idea, particularly >in a noisy cockpit. They mention an optional isolation relay board, >but apparently they never did produce it, so I have to make up my >own. >The problem is that while I can solder just fine, I suck at >designing circuits. Has anyone made one of these boards, or has a >schematic that I can work from? or any source for buying such beast? >Here's the diagram provided by Flightline: Two double pole relays suitable for the 12 or 24 volt aircraft power. Power coils from fused aircraft circuit and return the coils through the tip pins of the two push to talk jacks. Connect mike audio inputs 1 and 2 through one pair of relay contacts to the two mike audio inputs to the radio. You could use only one of the inputs but there might be a problem if both talk switches are simultaneously activated. Connect the PTT radio pin through the other relay poles so that it is grounded whenever either relay is activated. Or. . . If you use voice activated intercom those features are probably built into it. Just wire the aircraft for a single mike output from the intercom. Or. . . Some microphones, mostly older ones, use a double pole switch so that the mike audio is only present when its own talk switch is pushed. They're terrible for use with an intercom. -- --> From the U S of A, the only socialist country that refuses to admit it. <-- ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: New EFIS unit for sale .... save $$
Date: Mar 29, 2009
From: dennco2(at)aol.com
Hi? ALL, I recently have downsized my experimental aircraft building aspirations, and no longer need my Blue Mountain EFIS unit ...... model Light Plus which retails for $4,500 from BM. It is in flawless never used condition and I would sell several hundred $$ less to find a buyer interested in this nice unit at a great price. Make an offer and we can make a deal. To check it out ......... go the the Blue Mountain website and see what this unit can do. Thanks,? DC ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Mar 30, 2009
From: Robin Hou <rmhou(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: 400W/420W/430W Power cable
I want to build a power cable so I can practice using my Garmin GNC 420W at home. -I called Garmin and was told that I can order their $125 connecto r kit to build my cable. The GPS side uses a 78-pin connector that looks like a D-subminiature 78-pi n connector. -Mouser has them for around $10. -But Garmin tech told me that their connectors are not "computer connector" but "aviation connector" ; at $125, it sure feel like aviation grade and price. Would this work: http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?qs=EP%2f j%252b8r7ekpZ... - Thanks in advance. - Robin Hou =0A=0A=0A ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Mar 30, 2009
Subject: Re: 400W/420W/430W Power cable
From: Larry Bowen <larry(at)bowenaero.com>
Sounds like a load of bull to me. Try it. -- Larry Bowen Larry(at)BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com Sent from: Welcome NC United States. On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 7:02 PM, Robin Hou wrote: > I want to build a power cable so I can practice using my Garmin GNC 420W at > home. I called Garmin and was told that I can order their $125 connector > kit to build my cable. > The GPS side uses a 78-pin connector that looks like a D-subminiature > 78-pin connector. Mouser has them for around $10. But Garmin tech told me > that their connectors are not "computer connector" but "aviation connector"; > at $125, it sure feel like aviation grade and > price. > Would this work: > http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?qs=EP%2fj%252b8r7ekpZ... > > Thanks in advance. > > Robin Hou > > * > > * > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Mar 30, 2009
From: Ron Quillin <rjquillin(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: 400W/420W/430W Power cable
Bad link for me, but if it's anything like the Apollo, nee, Garmin GNS-480 they're all standard or high-density D-connectors. You're pulling the unit out of the tube and flying it at home by directly plugging in the connectors to the rear of the unit, right? Just use a good connector and don't damage any pins. Ron Q. At 16:02 3/30/2009, you wrote: >I want to build a power cable so I can practice using my Garmin GNC >420W at home. I called Garmin and was told that I can order their >$125 connector kit to build my cable. >The GPS side uses a 78-pin connector that looks like a >D-subminiature 78-pin connector. Mouser has them for around >$10. But Garmin tech told me that their connectors are not >"computer connector" but "aviation connector"; at $125, it sure feel >like aviation grade and >price. >Would this work: ><http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?qs=EP%2fj%252b8r7ekpZ...>http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?qs=EP%2fj%252b8r7ekpZ... > > >Thanks in advance. > >Robin Hou > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Tim Andres" <tim2542(at)sbcglobal.net>
Subject: 400W/420W/430W Power cable
Date: Mar 30, 2009
Let us know if you find one that fits please! Tim Andres _____ From: owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Bowen Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 6:15 PM Subject: Re: Avionics-List: 400W/420W/430W Power cable Sounds like a load of bull to me. Try it. -- Larry Bowen Larry(at)BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com Sent from: Welcome NC United States. On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 7:02 PM, Robin Hou wrote: I want to build a power cable so I can practice using my Garmin GNC 420W at home. I called Garmin and was told that I can order their $125 connector kit to build my cable. The GPS side uses a 78-pin connector that looks like a D-subminiature 78-pin connector. Mouser has them for around $10. But Garmin tech told me that their connectors are not "computer connector" but "aviation connector"; at $125, it sure feel like aviation grade and price. Would this work: http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?qs=EP%2fj%252b8r7ekpZ... Thanks in advance. Robin Hou target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Avionics-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution 08:40:00 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: <bakerocb(at)cox.net>
Subject: 400W/420W/430W Power cable
Date: Mar 31, 2009
3/31/2009 Hello Robin Hou, You wrote: "I want to build a power cable so I can practice using my Garmin GNC 420W at home." I don't know what your practice will consist of, but wouldn't the free Garmin trainer serve that purpose better? See this for (very large) down load: https://buy.garmin.com/shop/store/downloadsUpdates.jsp?product=010-00412-01&cID=194&pID=301 I have this trainer on my computer and it works great -- probably better than anything that you could set up. 'OC' Says: "The best investment we can make is the effort to gather and understand knowledge." _________________________ From: Robin Hou <rmhou(at)yahoo.com> Subject: Avionics-List: 400W/420W/430W Power cable I want to build a power cable so I can practice using my Garmin GNC 420W at home. -I called Garmin and was told that I can order their $125 connecto r kit to build my cable. The GPS side uses a 78-pin connector that looks like a D-subminiature 78-pi n connector. -Mouser has them for around $10. -But Garmin tech told me that their connectors are not "computer connector" but "aviation connector" ; at $125, it sure feel like aviation grade and price. Would this work: http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?qs=EP%2f j%252b8r7ekpZ... - Thanks in advance. - Robin Hou ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Mar 31, 2009
From: Jay Maynard <jmaynard(at)conmicro.com>
Subject: Re: 400W/420W/430W Power cable
> I don't know what your practice will consist of, but wouldn't the free > Garmin trainer serve that purpose better? See this for (very large) down > load: > > https://buy.garmin.com/shop/store/downloadsUpdates.jsp?product=010-00412-01&cID=194&pID=301 > > I have this trainer on my computer and it works great -- probably better > than anything that you could set up. I agree, with one exception: it's the non-WAAS version, and the included firmware is a version behind. -- Jay Maynard, K5ZC, PP-ASEL, AGI http://www.conmicro.com http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net Fairmont, MN (KFRM) (Yes, that's me!) AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC http://www.tronguy.net/N55ZC.shtml ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: 400W/420W/430W Power cable
Date: Mar 31, 2009
From: <kcarey(at)alum.mit.edu>
Garmin has available on their web site (https://buy.garmin.com/shop/store/downloadsAgree.jsp?id=3531&product=010-00416-01&cID=194&pID52) the WAAS versions of the trainer with a software version of 3.0. Kevin Carey On Tue Mar 31 10:26 , Jay Maynard sent: > >> I don't know what your practice will consist of, but wouldn't the free >> Garmin trainer serve that purpose better? See this for (very large) down >> load: >> >> https://buy.garmin.com/shop/store/downloadsUpdates.jsp?product=010-00412-01&cID=194&pID=301 >> >> I have this trainer on my computer and it works great -- probably better >> than anything that you could set up. > >I agree, with one exception: it's the non-WAAS version, and the included >firmware is a version behind. >-- >Jay Maynard, K5ZC, PP-ASEL, AGI http://www.conmicro.com >http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net >Fairmont, MN (KFRM) (Yes, that's me!) >AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC http://www.tronguy.net/N55ZC.shtml ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Mar 31, 2009
From: Jay Maynard <jmaynard(at)conmicro.com>
Subject: Re: 400W/420W/430W Power cable
> Garmin has available on their web site > (https://buy.garmin.com/shop/store/downloadsAgree.jsp?id=3531&product=010-00416-01&cID=194&pID52) > the WAAS versions of the trainer with a software version of 3.0. Glad to hear it. I'll update my copy. -- Jay Maynard, K5ZC, PP-ASEL, AGI http://www.conmicro.com http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net Fairmont, MN (KFRM) (Yes, that's me!) AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC http://www.tronguy.net/N55ZC.shtml ________________________________________________________________________________
From: <bakerocb(at)cox.net>
Subject: 400W/420W/430W Power cable
Date: Apr 01, 2009
4/1/2009 Hello Guys, Aren't we getting a bit jumbled up here? 1) OC suggested Robin Hou use this page to download a 420 trainer: https://buy.garmin.com/shop/store/downloadsUpdates.jsp?product=010-00412-01&cID=194&pID=301 2) Jay Maynard wrote: "I agree, with one exception: it's the non-WAAS version, and the included firmware is a version behind." That puzzled me because that page led me to a WAAS version and it was version 3.0 software for the 400 series trainer. Is there something better and newer? 3) Kevin Carey wrote: "Garmin has available on their web site (https://buy.garmin.com/shop/store/downloadsAgree.jsp?id=3531&product=010-00416-01&cID=194&pID52) the WAAS versions of the trainer with a software version of 3.0." True enough, but that page is the 530 trainer. How would that work out for a guy with a 420? Robin Hou please write and tell us that we haven't led you completely astray. 'OC' Says: "The best investment we can make is the effort to gather and understand knowledge." ====================================================== From: Jay Maynard <jmaynard(at)conmicro.com> Subject: Re: Avionics-List: 400W/420W/430W Power cable > I don't know what your practice will consist of, but wouldn't the free > Garmin trainer serve that purpose better? See this for (very large) down > load: > > https://buy.garmin.com/shop/store/downloadsUpdates.jsp?product=010-00412-01&cID=194&pID=301 > > I have this trainer on my computer and it works great -- probably better > than anything that you could set up. I agree, with one exception: it's the non-WAAS version, and the included firmware is a version behind. -- Jay Maynard, K5ZC, PP-ASEL, AGI http://www.conmicro.com http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net Fairmont, MN (KFRM) (Yes, that's me!) AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC http://www.tronguy.net/N55ZC.shtml ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Subject: Re: Avionics-List: 400W/420W/430W Power cable From: <kcarey(at)alum.mit.edu> Garmin has available on their web site (https://buy.garmin.com/shop/store/downloadsAgree.jsp?id=3531&product=010-00416-01&cID=194&pID52) the WAAS versions of the trainer with a software version of 3.0. Kevin Carey On Tue Mar 31 10:26 , Jay Maynard sent: > >> I don't know what your practice will consist of, but wouldn't the free >> Garmin trainer serve that purpose better? See this for (very large) down >> load: >> >> https://buy.garmin.com/shop/store/downloadsUpdates.jsp?product=010-00412-01&cID=194&pID=301 >> >> I have this trainer on my computer and it works great -- probably better >> than anything that you could set up. > >I agree, with one exception: it's the non-WAAS version, and the included >firmware is a version behind. >-- >Jay Maynard, K5ZC, PP-ASEL, AGI http://www.conmicro.com >http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net >Fairmont, MN (KFRM) (Yes, that's me!) >AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC http://www.tronguy.net/N55ZC.shtml ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Apr 01, 2009
From: Jay Maynard <jmaynard(at)conmicro.com>
Subject: Re: 400W/420W/430W Power cable
> That puzzled me because that page led me to a WAAS version and it was > version 3.0 software for the 400 series trainer. Is there something better > and newer? No. It turns out that's the version I have on my computer. It's still behind my year-old 430W; I'm going to have to go out to the airport and see what version the one in the airplane is running now. > 3) Kevin Carey wrote: "Garmin has available on their web site > (https://buy.garmin.com/shop/store/downloadsAgree.jsp?id=3531&product=010-00416-01&cID=194&pID52) > the WAAS versions of the trainer with a software version of 3.0." > > True enough, but that page is the 530 trainer. How would that work out for > a guy with a 420? It's the same trainer for all of them. There's an option setting to select which unit you want it to act like. -- Jay Maynard, K5ZC, PP-ASEL, AGI http://www.conmicro.com http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net Fairmont, MN (KFRM) (Yes, that's me!) AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC http://www.tronguy.net/N55ZC.shtml ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Apr 01, 2009
From: Robin Hou <rmhou(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: 400W/420W/430W Power cable
Hi Listers, - Thanks for all your replies.- Yes, I am aware that Garmin has a software trainer.- But my intent is to run the unit, not just to learn to use it. - I went ahead and ordered a D-Sub 78-pin male connector.- I will repor t back in about a week to let you know if the connector worked. - Thanks again. - Robin Hou - -=0A=0A=0A ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Nav Worx
From: "rampil" <ira.rampil(at)gmail.com>
Date: Apr 01, 2009
Does anyone yet have any direct experience with the new NavWorx ADSB-in system? Their web site is kind of scant on detail. I'd like interface data like are they providing straight DO-282A out? It's a great idea. -------- Ira N224XS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=237198#237198 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Nav Worx
From: "rampil" <ira.rampil(at)gmail.com>
Date: Apr 01, 2009
Hi Tim, I saw your write up and pix! You said you liked wiring and interfacing and such, so can you tell me what interface you used to the Chelton and what software mods were needed. The standard TIS-B and FIS-B I/O is described in the RTCA doc I cited, but I don't see where NavWorx describes what they do. Was the Chelton preprogrammed to take std ADSB or did they work with the NavWorx guys to create an interface? I myself would like to feed the NavWorx into my BlueMountain Gen4 system Thanks, -------- Ira N224XS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=237288#237288 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: CardinalNSB(at)aol.com
Date: Apr 03, 2009
Subject: Antenna splitter-gs/mb/vor how?
I have seen pictures of a splitter that Narco put on the back of the Nav 122 so that a single cable provides vor, glideslope, and marker beacon signals. I don't find anything like that listed in the avionics catalogs, EDMO, Spruce, etc. I would appreciate any help to duplicate that diy, or a link or other resource, or any recommendations. Regards, Skip **************Hurry! April 15th is almost here. File your Federal taxes FREE with TaxACT. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Apr 03, 2009
From: Robin Hou <rmhou(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: 400W/420W/430W Power cable
Hi Listers, - I am happy to report back that my $10 D-Sub 78-pin male connector from Mous er works fine for my at-home-power-cable.- I connected pin 19 & 20 to +12 v, and-75, 77 & 78 to negative.- The 420W powered up in demo mode just fine. - Thanks to-all who replied. - Robin=0A=0A=0A ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "David LLoyd" <skywagon(at)charter.net>
Subject: Re: Antenna splitter-gs/mb/vor how?
Date: Apr 03, 2009
Keep in mind the greatly reduced signal levels you will incur by splitting the main antenna energy that many times via a multi-output port splitter...... David ----- Original Message ----- From: CardinalNSB(at)aol.com To: avionics-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 2:39 PM Subject: Avionics-List: Antenna splitter-gs/mb/vor how? I have seen pictures of a splitter that Narco put on the back of the Nav 122 so that a single cable provides vor, glideslope, and marker beacon signals. I don't find anything like that listed in the avionics catalogs, EDMO, Spruce, etc. I would appreciate any help to duplicate that diy, or a link or other resource, or any recommendations. Regards, Skip ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Hurry! April 15th is almost here. File your Federal taxes FREE with TaxACT. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "George Steube" <at6c(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Antenna splitter-gs/mb/vor how?
Date: Apr 03, 2009
Skip, The device you want goes by a couple of names: diplexer/triplexer/coupler. Spruce has them on page 488 of my 2005 catalog. If then don't have them give Gulf Coast a call. Any real avionics dealer should be able to supply what you want. By the way these device work great. I have run 2 VOR's and 2 GS from one VOR antenna. I have also installed them in various configurations in at least 6 A/C without any issues. Good luck. George -----Original Message----- From: owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of CardinalNSB(at)aol.com Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 4:39 PM To: avionics-list(at)matronics.com Subject: Avionics-List: Antenna splitter-gs/mb/vor how? I have seen pictures of a splitter that Narco put on the back of the Nav 122 so that a single cable provides vor, glideslope, and marker beacon signals. I don't find anything like that listed in the avionics catalogs, EDMO, Spruce, etc. I would appreciate any help to duplicate that diy, or a link or other resource, or any recommendations. Regards, Skip ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Hurry! April 15th is almost here. File your Federal taxes FREE with TaxACT. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: <bakerocb(at)cox.net>
Subject: 400W/420W/430W Power cable
Date: Apr 04, 2009
4/4/2009 Hello Robin, Please tell me more about this demo mode. How does one get into it and use it? I can't find out anything about it in my 430W manual. If you have the Garmin trainer on your computer how does the demo mode compare to the trainer? Thanks. 'OC' Says: "The best investment we can make is the effort to gather and understand knowledge." ============================================ From: Robin Hou <rmhou(at)yahoo.com> Subject: Avionics-List: 400W/420W/430W Power cable Hi Listers, - I am happy to report back that my $10 D-Sub 78-pin male connector from Mous er works fine for my at-home-power-cable.- I connected pin 19 & 20 to +12 v, and-75, 77 & 78 to negative.- The 420W powered up in demo mode just fine. - Thanks to-all who replied. - Robin ________________________________________________________________________________
From: John DeCuir <jadecuir(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Terra TN200 problem
Date: Apr 04, 2009
To any Terra wizards out there, here's my setup: Vans RV4, circa 1992. One Terra TN200 (not "D") with GS, TRINAV head with Loran/GPS option and GX50 connected, single dipole antenna mounted below tail, and splitter for GS and VOR/LOC, with RG58 coax. Problem: GS indications intermittently erroneous. I routinely fly the ILS Rwy 30L approach into KSJC and have the opportunity to do so VFR and check GS indications against published GS altitudes at the fixes and the PAPI. Sometimes I won't get any GS indication until inside 5 miles. Sometimes I get GS out at 15 miles, but it shows that I'm low (about 1/3 up the scale) no matter where I am ref the actual slope. I get no flag, the "I" is displayed, as opposed to an "L", and it stays at that 1/3 low position until inside 5 miles final or sometimes closer. And once in a great while I receive correct indications at 15 miles and continuing all the way in. Localizer indications are always correct and responsive, within tolerance. Station ID is clear and correct. I checked at another airport, same results. Questions: Shouldn't I get a flag? Shouldn't the "I" change to an "L"? Is there an RF gain adjustment that needs attention? Where should I look first? Should I upgrade to RG400, as I have with GPS and Comm? Do splitters go bad? John DeCuir N204CP, RV4 KSNS, CA ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Apr 04, 2009
From: Jay Maynard <jmaynard(at)conmicro.com>
Subject: 400W/420W/430W setup mode
On a similar subject: How do you get the 430 family into setup mode? I know it's a matter of holding something down as you power it up, but I haven't been able to find out just what. -- Jay Maynard, K5ZC, PP-ASEL, AGI http://www.conmicro.com http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net Fairmont, MN (KFRM) (Yes, that's me!) AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC http://www.tronguy.net/N55ZC.shtml ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Vincent Palermo <vpalermo(at)tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: Re: 400W/420W/430W setup mode
Date: Apr 04, 2009
Hold the enter button as you turn the system on. Good luck and write down all your old settings before you change to the new. Vincent Palermo vpalermo(at)tampabay.rr.com On Apr 4, 2009, at 1:19 PM, Jay Maynard wrote: > > > > On a similar subject: How do you get the 430 family into setup mode? > I know > it's a matter of holding something down as you power it up, but I > haven't > been able to find out just what. > -- > Jay Maynard, K5ZC, PP-ASEL, AGI http://www.conmicro.com > http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net > Fairmont, MN (KFRM) (Yes, that's me!) > AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC http://www.tronguy.net/N55ZC.shtml > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "David LLoyd" <skywagon(at)charter.net>
Subject: Re: 400W/420W/430W setup mode
Date: Apr 04, 2009
....what Vincent is stating is especially true if the 430/530 is coupled to an autopilot of similar boxes. There are a ton of settings internal to the Garmin's that maybe reset accidentally. Get a notebook and scan through the many pages of set-up and note down all the settings..... Been there got the T-shirt with all the catsup on it for not doing this when the unit was upgraded. Even the licensed shop could not get the right settings back properly. I had to go to Garmin, talk to a very savvy engineer, to get the settings back into the 430 so it would talk to my S-Tec A/P correctly.... David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vincent Palermo" <vpalermo(at)tampabay.rr.com> Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 11:30 AM Subject: Re: Avionics-List: 400W/420W/430W setup mode > > > Hold the enter button as you turn the system on. Good luck and write down > all your old settings before you change to the new. > Vincent Palermo > vpalermo(at)tampabay.rr.com > > > On Apr 4, 2009, at 1:19 PM, Jay Maynard wrote: > >> > >> >> On a similar subject: How do you get the 430 family into setup mode? I >> know >> it's a matter of holding something down as you power it up, but I >> haven't >> been able to find out just what. >> -- >> Jay Maynard, K5ZC, PP-ASEL, AGI http://www.conmicro.com >> http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net >> Fairmont, MN (KFRM) (Yes, that's me!) >> AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC http://www.tronguy.net/N55ZC.shtml >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Apr 04, 2009
From: Jay Maynard <jmaynard(at)conmicro.com>
Subject: Re: 400W/420W/430W setup mode
> ....what Vincent is stating is especially true if the 430/530 is coupled to > an autopilot of similar boxes. I don't intend to change any of the settings on mine at the moment. Still, writing them all down seems like a very good idea. I've had a couple of ham radios that I've done that with because they've been known for losing their internal settings should the power spike at engine start or the like. I suspect that, while Garmin may not know how to set up the 430W to talk to my Zodiac's TruTrak Digiflight IIVSG, TruTrak probably does. Still, I'd like to avoid the necessity. There's also an Aspen PFD in my future, though not for a while yet. At some point, though, I plan to add a connection from the 430 to my 496 for flight plan crossfiling, and that will need to be enabled via setup. -- Jay Maynard, K5ZC, PP-ASEL, AGI http://www.conmicro.com http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net Fairmont, MN (KFRM) (Yes, that's me!) AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC http://www.tronguy.net/N55ZC.shtml ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Apr 05, 2009
From: Robin Hou <rmhou(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: 400W/420W/430W Power cable
Hi Bakerocb, - Sorry for the late reply.- We took a trip from our home base in So. Cal. to Carlsbad, NM.- We just got back tonight after 5 hours flighting turbul ence and-50 knt headwind.- That is a story for another day. - The demo mode is activated by grounding pin 75 when power up.- Once up, y ou can access "Demo Setup" screen by hitting "MENU" key until it shows up. >From this "Demo Setup" screen, you can enter TRK, GS, POS, ALT, VS, and sel ect to "MOVE" or "STOP".- Make your desired changes then "ENT" follow by "MENU" for changes to take place. - The PC trainer is easy to use and you can leave your 400W in your plane.- But I am new to the Garmin 400W world and I just want to play with my 420W from the comfort of my home.- Your choice ;-) - Regards, - Robin Hou 64 S35 N7947K KEMT --- On Sat, 4/4/09, bakerocb(at)cox.net wrote: From: bakerocb(at)cox.net <bakerocb(at)cox.net> Subject: 400W/420W/430W Power cable oo.com Date: Saturday, April 4, 2009, 11:29 AM 4/4/2009 Hello Robin, Please tell me more about this demo mode. How does one get int o it and use it? I can't find out anything about it in my 430W manual. If you have the Garmin trainer on your computer how does the demo mode comp are to the trainer? Thanks. 'OC' Says: "The best investment we can make is the effort to gather and understand knowledge." =================== From: Robin Hou <rmhou(at)yahoo.com> Subject: Avionics-List: 400W/420W/430W Power cable Hi Listers, - I am happy to report back that my $10 D-Sub 78-pin male connector from Mous er works fine for my at-home-power-cable.- I connected pin 19 & 20 to +12 v, and-75, 77 & 78 to negative.- The 420W powered up in demo mode just fine. - Thanks to-all who replied. - Robin =0A=0A=0A ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Airframe used as antenna?
From: "user9253" <fran5sew(at)banyanol.com>
Date: Apr 06, 2009
On an aluminum airplane such as a Van's RV or Zenith 601XL, is it feasible to use part of the airframe as a VHF com antenna? I am thinking of parts like the landing gear or roll bar or vertical stabilizer. Has anyone done any experiments along these lines? Joe -------- Joe Gores Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=238035#238035 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Apr 06, 2009
From: Doug McNutt <douglist(at)macnauchtan.com>
Subject: Re: Airframe used as antenna?
>On an aluminum airplane such as a Van's RV or Zenith 601XL, is it >feasible to use part of the airframe as a VHF com antenna? I am >thinking of parts like the landing gear or roll bar or vertical >stabilizer. Has anyone done any experiments along these lines? It surely is possible. But safe and legal? Probably not. The problem is that a metal part you choose to use as the radiator won't work if it's grounded to the rest of the airplane. Designers and FAA rules like "bonding" between all metal parts to reduce radio interference and to prevent sparks that might ignite something. Required bonding would make an antenna fail. You could think about using tuned or just inductive bonding straps that would act as insulators in the frequency band of interest. You might also think about a negative antenna. It's possible to cut a long skinny hole in, say, a vertical stabilizer in a way that the absence of metal, in the ground plane that is the rest of the surface, can be excited as an antenna. I have personally done that, at 244 MHz, in tail fins of sounding rockets but I suspect it would be a PITA in an airplane that needs not to develop cracks in its skin. If a major part of the aircraft is fiberglass anyway you might get away with using an aluminum framing part that is inside. -- --> A fair tax is one that you pay but I don't <-- ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca>
Subject: Airframe used as antenna?
Date: Apr 06, 2009
Problem there is the airframe is grounded to the battery and from there the case of the transmitter etc. The radiator for the antenna needs to be insulated from contact with the ground or it will short circuit. Of course you can put a big resistor across the feed line and the frame of the plane and turn the whole thing into a dirt big dummy load. That won't hurt your transmitter but you won't be heard either. The ground is still needed as a ground plane which directs the outbound signal. Sorry to tell you the best thing is still the vertical 1/4 wave antenna... for a metal plane. Noel -----Original Message----- From: owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of user9253 Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 6:23 PM Subject: Avionics-List: Airframe used as antenna? On an aluminum airplane such as a Van's RV or Zenith 601XL, is it feasible to use part of the airframe as a VHF com antenna? I am thinking of parts like the landing gear or roll bar or vertical stabilizer. Has anyone done any experiments along these lines? Joe -------- Joe Gores Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=238035#238035 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Airframe used as antenna?
From: "user9253" <fran5sew(at)banyanol.com>
Date: Apr 07, 2009
Thanks to Doug and Noel for your replies. The consensus seems to be that the simplest, easiest and safest is to use the 1/4 wave ground plane antenna. Joe -------- Joe Gores Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=238134#238134 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca>
Subject: Re: Airframe used as antenna?
Date: Apr 07, 2009
With a good clean connection to the ground plane. Noel -----Original Message----- From: owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of user9253 Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 10:26 AM Subject: Avionics-List: Re: Airframe used as antenna? Thanks to Doug and Noel for your replies. The consensus seems to be that the simplest, easiest and safest is to use the 1/4 wave ground plane antenna. Joe -------- Joe Gores Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=238134#238134 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: John DeCuir <jadecuir(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Terra TN200 problem/GS
Date: Apr 09, 2009
The problem with intermittent GS reception turned out to be faulty ground connection where the antenna coupling floats in the tray. Sprayed it with contact cleaner and works fine. John ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Apr 18, 2009
From: Gordon Arbeitman <gordona23(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: sidetone
Can anyone on the list give me a clear description of sidetone ? I''m not sure if the sidetone I hear (most of the time) in my headset is generated by the intercom or the comm radio. I've got intermittent loss of sidetone and it certainly changes when I'm transmitting. My wife also tells me that my voice is sometimes unintelligible in her headset although ATC can hear me. The setup is a Lightspeed 20-3G headset, talking through an Sigtronics SPA-400 intercom, and an ancient Narco CP-125 audio panel, to a pair of Michel MX-ll radios. Any insight and or clues would be appreciated. ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: SL-60 for sale
Date: Apr 18, 2009
From: teamgrumman(at)aol.com
If you are looking for a second com and would like a second GPS as a bonus, I've got an SL-60 that was removed for a Garmin 430 installation. Looks new. Complete with tray and antenna. $1100 plus shipping. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Vincent Palermo <vpalermo(at)tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: Re: sidetone
Date: Apr 18, 2009
Side tone is hearing your own voice in the head set when you speak into the mic, albeit at a lower level. Vincent Palermo vpalermo(at)tampabay.rr.com On Apr 18, 2009, at 2:27 PM, Gordon Arbeitman wrote: > > > > Can anyone on the list give me a clear description of sidetone ? > I''m not sure if the sidetone I hear (most of the time) in my > headset is generated by the intercom or the comm radio. I've got > intermittent loss of sidetone and it certainly changes when I'm > transmitting. My wife also tells me that my voice is sometimes > unintelligible in her headset although ATC can hear me. The setup > is a Lightspeed 20-3G headset, talking through an Sigtronics SPA-400 > intercom, and an ancient Narco CP-125 audio panel, to a pair of > Michel MX-ll radios. > > Any insight and or clues would be appreciated. > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Apr 18, 2009
From: Doug McNutt <douglist(at)macnauchtan.com>
Subject: Re: sidetone
>Can anyone on the list give me a clear description of sidetone ? >I''m not sure if the sidetone I hear (most of the time) in my >headset is generated by the intercom or the comm radio. I've got >intermittent loss of sidetone and it certainly changes when I'm >transmitting. My wife also tells me that my voice is sometimes >unintelligible in her headset although ATC can hear me. The setup >is a Lightspeed 20-3G headset, talking through an Sigtronics SPA-400 >intercom, and an ancient Narco CP-125 audio panel, to a pair of >Michel MX-ll radios. My recollection of the Sigtronics is that they just allow the audio from a comm radio to be mixed in wiring with the intercom audio. No switching is provided "because I sleep better that way". You should be able to use the transmitter for a test with the intercom turned off. That way you would be absolutely sure any sidetone is coming fro the transmitter. If that doesn't work you should also be able to connect the mike to a "standard" mike jack and the phones to a "standard" phone jack but you might need a mike with a push-to-talk switch on it. You can make a PTT by grounding the tip of the mike connector. That's the tip of "ring, tip, and sleeve of the three terminal connector. The CP125 does not generate any sidetone by itself. The Sigtronics drives the headphones but, although it's quite the same, it's not called sidetone. The war department's problem with distortion could well be the presence of audio from the Sigtronics being mixed out of phase with sidetone from the transmitter. -- --> A fair tax is one that you pay but I don't <-- ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca>
Subject: sidetone
Date: Apr 18, 2009
First of all side tone is only in your own head set. It takes The same signal that is fed to your transmitter or audio panel but sends it back to your own headset so you can tell how loud you are speaking and if you are intelligible. Noel -----Original Message----- From: owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gordon Arbeitman Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 3:58 PM Subject: Avionics-List: sidetone Can anyone on the list give me a clear description of sidetone ? I''m not sure if the sidetone I hear (most of the time) in my headset is generated by the intercom or the comm radio. I've got intermittent loss of sidetone and it certainly changes when I'm transmitting. My wife also tells me that my voice is sometimes unintelligible in her headset although ATC can hear me. The setup is a Lightspeed 20-3G headset, talking through an Sigtronics SPA-400 intercom, and an ancient Narco CP-125 audio panel, to a pair of Michel MX-ll radios. Any insight and or clues would be appreciated. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Apr 19, 2009
From: Gordon Arbeitman <gordona23(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: Side tone
My recollection of the Sigtronics is that they just allow the audio from a comm radio to be mixed in wiring with the intercom audio. No switching is provided "because I sleep better that way". You should be able to use the transmitter for a test with the intercom turned off. That way you would be absolutely sure any sidetone is coming fro the transmitter. If that doesn't work you should also be able to connect the mike to a "standard" mike jack and the phones to a "standard" phone jack but you might need a mike with a push-to-talk switch on it. You can make a PTT by grounding the tip of the mike connector. That's the tip of "ring, tip, and sleeve of the three terminal connector. The CP125 does not generate any sidetone by itself. The Sigtronics drives the headphones but, although it's quite the same, it's not called sidetone. The war department's problem with distortion could well be the presence of audio from the Sigtronics being mixed out of phase with sidetone from the transmitter. -- Thanks, that's helpful. Here are a few more questions: When I talk to the Sigtronics (comm radio off), I hear myself (sidetone). Is that coming from the Sigtronics ? If so, then I'm guessing that both the intercom and the COMM radio are putting out a sidetone, when I tranmit. If they are "out of phase", that would explain the distortion. Is there a reason why I shouldn't disable the radio's sidetone and just rely on the intercom sidetone? I almost always fly with the intercom on. ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: SL-60 for sale
From: "swaneymj" <swaneymj(at)mac.com>
Date: Apr 19, 2009
Garmin will give you $2000 off the list price to trade in a GX-60 on a 430/530W. I assume that same would be true for an SL-60, too. I have a GX-60 and am working this deal with Stark Avionics. The offer is good through 2009. -------- Thanks, Mark Swaney F-1 Rocket #31, N76TR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=240095#240095 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Apr 19, 2009
From: Doug McNutt <douglist(at)macnauchtan.com>
Subject: Re: Side tone
>Thanks, that's helpful. Here are a few more questions: > >When I talk to the Sigtronics (comm radio off), I hear myself >(sidetone). Is that coming from the Sigtronics ? If so, then I'm >guessing that both the intercom and the COMM radio are putting out a >sidetone, when I tranmit. If they are "out of phase", that would >explain the distortion. Is there a reason why I shouldn't disable >the radio's sidetone and just rely on the intercom sidetone? I >almost always fly with the intercom on. The intercom really ought to be turning off its output to the headphones while a transmitter is keyed. It appears that it is not doing that. Intercom audio is being sent to all headphones at the same time. Strictly speaking, sidetone would be sent only to the headset that has its microphone activated. Are you , perhaps, keying the transmitter without telling the intercom about it? A push to talk switch on a control yoke might be doing that. The sidetone from the transmitter is derived from a point very late in the circuitry and is an indicator that the transmitter is working pretty much properly. If you turn that off you would lose a failure indication. It's been almost two decades since I have had a Sigtronics apart and I never owned one. I'll have a look at my records later today. There might be a schematic around. -- -> Stocks are getting pelloreid <- ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: SL-60 for sale
Date: Apr 19, 2009
From: teamgrumman(at)aol.com
Thanks for the lead Gil. Russ, bought the SL-60 -----Original Message----- From: Gil Alexander <gilalex(at)earthlink.net> Sent: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 12:03 am Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: SL-60 for sale --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Gil Alexander Gary, posted here... http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?p=319199#post319199 Let me know when it sells and I will mark it appropriately gil A >--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: teamgrumman(at)aol.com > >Sure, thanks. That's awesome. 0D ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: SL-60 for sale
Date: Apr 19, 2009
From: teamgrumman(at)aol.com
wish I had known -----Original Message----- From: swaneymj <swaneymj(at)mac.com> Sent: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 8:40 am Subject: Avionics-List: Re: SL-60 for sale Garmin will give you $2000 off the list price to trade in a GX-60 on a 430/530W. I assume that same would be true for an SL-60, too. I have a GX-60 and am working this deal with Stark Avionics. The offer is good through 2009. -------- Thanks, Mark Swaney F-1 Rocket #31, N76TR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=240095#240095 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Greg Young" <gyoung@cs-sol.com>
Subject: 757 mic bias voltage
Date: Apr 21, 2009
I've got a friend that flys 757's using a Bose headset and has the mic get hot (warm) during the course of a flight, not burn-your-lips-hot, but too hot. Talked to the Bose service mgr here at Sun n Fun and he wants to know what the mic bias voltage is since a replacement mic didn't fix it. FWIW, the mic is live continuously because of the CVR. I thought there might be someone in the brain trust here that might know the answer or have any other ideas. It's not a problem in GA aircraft - he flew with me to SnF in my Navion for 5 hrs and had no problem. Likewise none in his GA airplanes. Regards, Greg Young ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Apr 21, 2009
From: Doug McNutt <douglist(at)macnauchtan.com>
Subject: Re: Side tone
>It's been almost two decades since I have had a Sigtronics apart and I never owned one. I'll have a look at my records later today. There might be a schematic around. I found a schematic. The SPA-400 uses diode isolation to activate the transmitter key. Activation of the transmitter without going through SPA-400 pins 2 (pilot) or 10 (copilot) will not be recognized by the intercom. The intercom normally removes power from its headphone amplifier when either the copilot or pilot push-to-talk key is pressed and diodes see that the aircraft's push-to-talk system is also activated. The output of the audio amplifier goes through 1 1 microfarad capacitor and a 100 ohm resistor to the aircraft's headphone bus, The 100 ohms allows for the audio from other sources - like a radio or audio panel - to be connected to the same bus where the audio signals are mixed. A part of the on-off switch connects the aircraft microphone bus to the SPA-400 when it is turned on but reconnects mic bus directly to the pilot microphone when off. I'm now betting that the Gordon's problem has to do with his microphone jack being wired so that he grounds the aircraft push-to-talk wire directly instead of going through pin 2 of the intercom connector. If I'm wrong there is a diode failure inside of the intercom, probably CR-7. Off line at dmcnutt(at)macnauchtan.com if you want to talk in more detail about the schematics. I'm not sure about copyright and non-disclosure issues. -- --> Life begins at ovulation. Ladies should endeavor to get every young life fertilized. <-- ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Avionics cooling fans - yea or nay??
Date: Apr 21, 2009
From: "McFarland, Randy" <Randy.McFarland(at)novellus.com>
I have a Garmin 327 transponder and Dynon D-10 that I suspect become unreliable and freeze or lock up due to high behind the panel temperatures. Have any of the group experienced avionics issues related to heat, and will/does cooling fans provide enough cooling to eliminate the problems? Randy ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Avionics cooling fans - yea or nay??
From: "jetboy" <sanson.r(at)xtra.co.nz>
Date: Apr 25, 2009
Its unlikely that heat will cause both items to fail. You didnt say what aircraft it is or what other equipment is stacked below your problem gear, or what climate you are operating in. LCD displays normally freeze when it is cold, go dark when they are too hot. Digital electronics can halt from operating this is more often associated with bad design bugs (these devices are the ones that the manufacturer has belatedly required fitting of a large capacitor to the supply leads, a separate power master switch, or both), humidity, bad power supply such as a neglected battery, surges in the charging system, or just turning it off and on a dozen times when you start the plane. If you think it is overheating, buy a small indoor/outdoor digital thermometer and tape the probes to the rear of the devices. check against the TSO data or manufacturers recommendations 50 deg C or 120 F should be acceptable. Ralph -------- Ralph - CH701 / 2200a Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=241259#241259 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Navaid autopilot
From: "richmo" <richmo66(at)yahoo.com>
Date: May 02, 2009
HI All Navaid when out of business last year. Does anyone know who is handling their autopilot service work?? tks Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=242425#242425 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 03, 2009
Subject: Dynon 180 remote compass
From: John Long <johnlong63(at)gmail.com>
I just purchased a Dynon 180 for installation in my RV8. I have an aft battery location and have mounted my strobe power pac next to the battery. Does anyone have any experience with this combination? If so how does it work? I am trying to decide between mounting the Remote unit on the 809 bulkhead in the tail or in the right wing. Feedback please. John Long ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Vincent Himsl <vshimsl(at)live.com>
Subject: Dynon 180 remote compass
Date: May 03, 2009
Purchase a cheap non aviation compass from anywhere as a location testing d evice. The locations you mention look great until you move the control link age. I finally mounted mine on the back of the instrument panel right next to th e D-180 itself. I installed an AVMAP GPS panel mount (plastic Air Gizmo) an d installed behind this mount a frabricated shelf for the remote compass. I had bought an aviation compass before deciding on the Dynon so used it as a test device. I was more than surprised to discover how few suitable loca tions exist on the RV-8. As an aside=2C I was able to link the AVMAP GPS to my D-180 and will use it as my primary navigation. You can also tell the Dynon to use the GPS input for your HSI rather than the compass. I can send you a picture of my panel and compass shelf if you want. Contact me off line. If I get deluged by other requests=2C I will consider it list worthy and post it there. I am heading out to the hanger to sit and make engine noises so I will play around with my D-180 to see if I can get my Dynon 'needle' to jump. Regards=2C Vince H. Pullman=2C WA USA N8432 RV-8 Ready for inspection Date: Sun=2C 3 May 2009 09:19:50 -0400 Subject: Avionics-List: Dynon 180 remote compass From: johnlong63(at)gmail.com I just purchased a Dynon 180 for installation in my RV8. I have an aft battery location and have mounted my strobe power pac next to the battery. Does anyone have any experience with this combination? If so how does it w ork? I am trying to decide between mounting the Remote unit on the 809 bulkhead in the tail or in the right wing. Feedback please. John Long _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live=99: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_BR_life_in_synch_052009 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Vincent Himsl <vshimsl(at)live.com>
Subject: Dynon 180 remote compass
Date: May 03, 2009
I just checked my panel mounted Dynon remote compass location (ref: previou s post). The D-180 booted up to a compass reading of 216. Turning on then off all electrical devices would occasionally show up as a dip to 215. More of a flickering dip. Rotating the control stick=2C pushing pedal=2C etc. no change. I was getting pretty proud of myself. Then I closed the canopy. The compass dipped to 209. Which again goes to show there is no really good spot on the RV-8. Where I have it is still pretty good as the canopy doesn't move once it is closed. Let me know if you find a better spot. Vince H. N8432 RV-8 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail=AE has ever-growing storage! Don=92t worry about storage limits. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tuto rial_Storage1_052009 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Hot offer for Nanchang CJ6 aircraft parts
From: "Nanchang CJ6" <liutiantian1987(at)hotmail.com>
Date: May 04, 2009
Part number Description Chinese Description Quantity Unit PriceUSD 1 DZ-5 Spark Plugs 200 22 2 QS-2 Brake valve differential 4 420 3 BG12-1A Instrument altimeter 1 191 4 FL-3 Compass amplifier 5 137 5 ZH-4 Instrument compass indicator 3 82 6 GY-1 Fuel pressure 2 119 7 ZWH-1 Instrument cyl. Temp 4 101 8 ZZ30-1C Instrument tach single needle 29 131 9 DH-2 Boost coil 6 135 10 TS-1 Prop governer 4 465 11 CP-15 Petrol Pumb(gasoline) 2 412 12 CB-32A Engine oil pump 4 691 13 BC10 Instrument vsi (rate of climb) 5 88 14 BAV-3 Instrument current voltage 1 100 15 BYJ-1 Instrument manifold press 4 82 16 CSR-1 Air radiator 4 505 17 H2-6112-00A/1 2 Oil house R/H 4 674 18 Propeller blade 4 3236 19 BDP-2B Instrument Horizon 2 1026 20 301 Clock front cockpit 2 336 21 2UC2-7 Instrument oil indicator 1 494 22 BYQ80-1A Air pressure guage 2 52 23 QS-1 Brake valve reducing 7 150 24 KY-2C Air Compressor 2 382 25 SB-1 Pump manual fuel wobble pump 2 138 26 QHQ-14 Carburetor 2 121 -------- Tally:86-13468610692 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=242736#242736 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 15, 2009
From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: MX20 Vertical stripes - update
I was finally able to replicate the problem with the primary alternator, secondary alternator, and more importantly - running on battery power alone. Contacted Garmin and they suggested I send the unit in - they replaced the display head and it is on its way back to me. Ralph ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "MSN Hotmail" <r-stout(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: VDO gauges
Date: May 17, 2009
I have installed a Rotax 912 ULS in a Highlander and have used VDO oil pressure and oil Temp. gauges. I have connected the + and - and the sender wire, as shown on the wiring diagram, but I am showing a ground short between all the pins and the power buss bar. Has anyone else run into that problem or can Bob shed some light on the problem? I've run out of ideas, and I haven't talked to anyone else that knows anything about the problem. Any help would be appreciated. Roger Best way to e-mail me is at R-Stout(at)Hotmail.com ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 17, 2009
From: Doug McNutt <douglist(at)macnauchtan.com>
Subject: Lear L2 autopilot removed
Long ago I gave up maintaining a Lear L2 autopilot that was installed in my 1957 Piper Apache. I believe that, as of this week's annual inspection, all of the scattered components have actually been removed from the aircraft. It was a three-axis autopilot with selsyn pickoffs on elevator and ailerons. Approach coupler and altitude hold worked in its early days. The attitude and heading gyros with pickoffs are no longer available. Having worked on the box for a couple of decades I can guarantee that it will never become airworthy again. The 300 volt rotating motor generator and the magnetic clutches are shot. It's all done with vacuum tubes and the sockets were giving me pains. If anyone is interested, perhaps for parts to support a still-working unit, please contact me at user dmcnutt with the same domain as my list address. I'm willing to pack it up but you would have to pick up the cost of UPS or other shipping from zip code 80919. I estimate about 75 pounds. In a week or so I am going to extract the cute things - like selsyn motors - and junk the rest. -- --> In Christianity, man can have only one wife. This is known as monotony. <-- ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Lear L2 autopilot removed
From: "mds4878" <mike(at)profishenterprises.com>
Date: May 17, 2009
I would pay the shipping. If that works for you I could use it. Mike 612-590-8604 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=244432#244432 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 28, 2009
From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: Grey code output to multiple devices
Folks, I have a Narco AR 850 grey code altitude reporter. I would like to connect it to two devices (GPS and transponder) instead of just the transponder. The serial port on the GPS is being used for something else and it has grey code lines also. Both the GPS and transponder have diode suppression in the grey code lines in order to prevent an off unit from dropping the signal to low. What say ye.....can I do this - or will smoke escape....? Thanks, Ralph Capen ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Gaby Levin" <galsys(at)bezeqint.net>
Subject: Re: Grey code output to multiple devices
Date: May 28, 2009
forget it! makes no sense ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen(at)earthlink.net> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 8:28 PM Subject: Avionics-List: Grey code output to multiple devices > > > Folks, > > I have a Narco AR 850 grey code altitude reporter. I would like to > connect it to two devices (GPS and transponder) instead of just the > transponder. The serial port on the GPS is being used for something else > and it has grey code lines also. > > Both the GPS and transponder have diode suppression in the grey code lines > in order to prevent an off unit from dropping the signal to low. > > What say ye.....can I do this - or will smoke escape....? > > Thanks, > Ralph Capen > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 08:10:00 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 28, 2009
From: Doug McNutt <douglist(at)macnauchtan.com>
Subject: Re: Grey code output to multiple devices
>forget it! >makes no sense > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen(at)earthlink.net> >> I have a Narco AR 850 grey code altitude reporter. I would like to connect it to two devices (GPS and transponder) instead of just the transponder. The serial port on the GPS is being used for something else and it has grey code lines also. I suspect that the gray code from the GPS is an output rather than an input. At the very east you would have to get design information from the folks who designed the GPS. The Narco interface emulates a "standard" encoding altimeter which simply grounds the wires to indicate a one bit. It's not to be confused with Intel serial port or an RS232 type of connection. -- --> From the U S of A, the only socialist country that refuses to admit it. <-- ________________________________________________________________________________
From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Georg_Isenb=FCrger?= <gi(at)av8r.de>
Subject: Re: Grey code output to multiple devices
Date: May 29, 2009
I have the following installation: KLN-94 GPS and a KT-76A Transponder. They both get the grey-code from my ACK encoder. They're simply wired in parallel. It works fine. regards George Am 29.05.2009 um 00:32 schrieb Doug McNutt: > > > forget it! > makes no sense > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen(at)earthlink.net > > >> I have a Narco AR 850 grey code altitude reporter. I would like to >> connect it to two devices (GPS and transponder) instead of just the >> transponder. The serial port on the GPS is being used for >> something else and it has grey code lines also. I suspect that the gray code from the GPS is an output rather than an input. At the very east you would have to get design information from the folks who designed the GPS. The Narco interface emulates a "standard" encoding altimeter which simply grounds the wires to indicate a one bit. It's not to be confused with Intel serial port or an RS232 type of connection. -- --> From the U S of A, the only socialist country that refuses to admit it. <-- ________________________________________________________________________________
From: <bakerocb(at)cox.net>
Subject: Must-Have Tool Tip
Date: May 30, 2009
5/30/2009 Hello Matt, Thanks for your tool tip. Here is another tip that you can distribute to the RV people if you will (I am not on their lists). Where ever possible abandon those abominable Phillips drive machine screws. Instead use Torx (six lobe) drive machine screws. Every builder who has done this has thanked me profusely for the suggestion. Torx drive inserts are readily available and with an electric cordless screw driver are very quick and effective -- vastly superior to Phillips drive. You can obtain Torx drive screws in a variety of sizes from Microfasteners. See here: http://www.microfasteners.com/catalog/products/SSCFCMXS.cfm (Note that these flat head screws have a true aviation use 100 degree countersink angle, not the common hardware store 82 degree countersink angle) and here: http://www.microfasteners.com/catalog/products/SSCSBXS.cfm 'OC' Says: "The best investment we can make is the effort to gather and understand knowledge." PS: Thanks again Matt for making the Matronics lists available to us -- they are of great value. ============================================= From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> Subject: RV12-List: Must-Have Tool Tip... Dear Listers, I don't know, maybe everyone but me already knew about this little gem of a tool, but in case you missed it, I thought I share. If you don't have one of these, run - don't walk - down to your local Home Depot or Ace Hardware store and get one! All of those #8 screws in the RVs are a giant pain to work in and out and some are just impossible to get to. I've been using this little guy on the RV-8 project and can't image not having it now. The bendable shaft is really strong and you can bend the heck out of it without impacting the torque. Its about $13 at Home Depot which is a great deal considering how handy it is. Here's a link to it on the Ace Hardware web page. I also attached a picture of mine attached to my Dewalt electric screw driver. http://www.acehardware.com/sm-eazypower-flex-a-bit-plus-eazypower-flex-a-bit-plus--pi-2467822.html Best regards, Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880 N998RV ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 30, 2009
From: Dave Lammers <davelammers(at)mchsi.com>
Subject: Com 11B
Does anyone know what pin 6 of J401A of the Narco Com 11B is? My pin out drawing shows "N/C". However, the aircraft installation I am working with has a wire at that location which I cannot figure out where it goes. I am removing the 11B and replacing it with a different unit. Thanks is advance Dave Lammers ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 30, 2009
From: Dave Lammers <davelammers(at)mchsi.com>
Subject: Com 11B
Does anyone know what pin 6 of J401A of the Narco Com 11B is? My pin out drawing shows "N/C". However, the aircraft installation I am working with has a wire at that location which I cannot figure out where it goes. I am removing the 11B and replacing it with a different unit. Thanks is advance Dave Lammers ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 30, 2009
From: Doug McNutt <douglist(at)macnauchtan.com>
Subject: Re: Com 11B
> >Does anyone know what pin 6 of J401A of the Narco Com 11B is? >My pin out drawing shows "N/C". However, the aircraft installation I am working with has a wire at that location which I cannot figure out where it goes. >I am removing the 11B and replacing it with a different unit. On the COM11A pin 6 of J401A is called PHONES & SPEAKER GND. It is internally connected to the case of the unit. It looks like a possible way to limit ground noise in audio systems caused by audio frequency currents in the airframe. Check to see if the speaker or the phone jacks are insulated from airframe ground and wired to return current to pin 6. And. . . A COMM 11 B might be different. -- --> Life begins at ovulation. Ladies should endeavor to get every young life fertilized. <-- ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: SL40 D sub pins
From: "wesk" <wsknettl(at)centurytel.net>
Date: Jun 04, 2009
Is there a reliable and INEXPENSIVE crimp tool out there for the ITT pin sockets Garmin PN 245-0022 and 245-0027 20 to 24 AWG? These are in a 162-0100 or 162-1575 15 pin Dsub connector shell. I haven't any conversion list for these Garmin part numbers.The specified tool for the 245-0022 is Astro 615708 w/positioner 616356 and for the 245-0027 ITT/Cannon (regular duty) 995-0001-585 crimp tool (M22520/1-01) with locator 995-0001-244 (TH25) or heavy duty 995-0001-584 (M22520/2-01) with locator 995-0001-604 (M22520/2-08) and also insertion tool 274-7006-000 (CIET-20HD). The Dsub shell that came with the radio is marked X ITT 0903 DAMAE 158. The pins that came with it are colored silver for the longer socket end and copper on the short wire insertion end with three color rings starting at the end with orange then green then black or navy. The stepped band for locking in shell has a small hole drilled into it. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=246768#246768 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dscn0001_617.jpg ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: SL40 D sub pins
Date: Jun 04, 2009
http://www.bandc.biz/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=146 ----- Original Message ----- From: "wesk" <wsknettl(at)centurytel.net> Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 10:08 AM Subject: Avionics-List: SL40 D sub pins > > Is there a reliable and INEXPENSIVE crimp tool out there for the ITT pin > sockets Garmin PN 245-0022 and 245-0027 20 to 24 AWG? > > These are in a 162-0100 or 162-1575 15 pin Dsub connector shell. I haven't > any conversion list for these Garmin part numbers.The specified tool for > the 245-0022 is Astro 615708 w/positioner 616356 and for the 245-0027 > ITT/Cannon (regular duty) 995-0001-585 crimp tool (M22520/1-01) with > locator 995-0001-244 (TH25) or heavy duty 995-0001-584 (M22520/2-01) with > locator 995-0001-604 (M22520/2-08) and also insertion tool 274-7006-000 > (CIET-20HD). > > The Dsub shell that came with the radio is marked X ITT 0903 DAMAE 158. > The pins that came with it are colored silver for the longer socket end > and copper on the short wire insertion end with three color rings starting > at the end with orange then green then black or navy. The stepped band for > locking in shell has a small hole drilled into it. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=246768#246768 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/dscn0001_617.jpg > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: SL40 D sub pins
From: "wesk" <wsknettl(at)centurytel.net>
Date: Jun 04, 2009
Thanks Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=246777#246777 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: VDO gauges
From: "rampil" <ira.rampil(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jun 04, 2009
Roger, You did not mention why you did this resistance check in the first place. What meter problem did you have? The meter is supposed to measure the resistance of the probe using the supply voltage. An R check of the meter itself might be meaningless Ira -------- Ira N224XS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=246791#246791 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 05, 2009
From: Gordon Arbeitman <gordona23(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: D sub pin tool
Stein Air sells an inexpensive tool that works reliably. They are at Stein Air <http://www.steinair.com/tools.htm> and you want the SAT-004. Avionics-List Digest Server wrote: > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete Avionics-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the Avionics-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 09-06-04&Archive=Avionics > > Text Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 09-06-04&Archive=Avionics > > > =============================================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > =============================================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Avionics-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Thu 06/04/09: 4 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 07:10 AM - SL40 D sub pins (wesk) > 2. 07:53 AM - Re: SL40 D sub pins (Ralph E. Capen) > 3. 08:34 AM - Re: SL40 D sub pins (wesk) > 4. 10:00 AM - Re: VDO gauges (rampil) > > > > ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ > > > Subject: Avionics-List: SL40 D sub pins > From: "wesk" <wsknettl(at)centurytel.net> > > > Is there a reliable and INEXPENSIVE crimp tool out there for the ITT pin sockets > Garmin PN 245-0022 and 245-0027 20 to 24 AWG? > > These are in a 162-0100 or 162-1575 15 pin Dsub connector shell. I haven't any > conversion list for these Garmin part numbers.The specified tool for the 245-0022 > is Astro 615708 w/positioner 616356 and for the 245-0027 ITT/Cannon (regular > duty) 995-0001-585 crimp tool (M22520/1-01) with locator 995-0001-244 (TH25) > or heavy duty 995-0001-584 (M22520/2-01) with locator 995-0001-604 (M22520/2-08) > and also insertion tool 274-7006-000 (CIET-20HD). > > The Dsub shell that came with the radio is marked X ITT 0903 DAMAE 158. The pins > that came with it are colored silver for the longer socket end and copper on > the short wire insertion end with three color rings starting at the end with > orange then green then black or navy. The stepped band for locking in shell has > a small hole drilled into it. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=246768#246768 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/dscn0001_617.jpg > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ > > > From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen(at)earthlink.net> > Subject: Re: Avionics-List: SL40 D sub pins > > > http://www.bandc.biz/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=146 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "wesk" <wsknettl(at)centurytel.net> > Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 10:08 AM > Subject: Avionics-List: SL40 D sub pins > > > >> Is there a reliable and INEXPENSIVE crimp tool out there for the ITT pin >> sockets Garmin PN 245-0022 and 245-0027 20 to 24 AWG? >> >> These are in a 162-0100 or 162-1575 15 pin Dsub connector shell. I haven't >> any conversion list for these Garmin part numbers.The specified tool for >> the 245-0022 is Astro 615708 w/positioner 616356 and for the 245-0027 >> ITT/Cannon (regular duty) 995-0001-585 crimp tool (M22520/1-01) with >> locator 995-0001-244 (TH25) or heavy duty 995-0001-584 (M22520/2-01) with >> locator 995-0001-604 (M22520/2-08) and also insertion tool 274-7006-000 >> (CIET-20HD). >> >> The Dsub shell that came with the radio is marked X ITT 0903 DAMAE 158. >> The pins that came with it are colored silver for the longer socket end >> and copper on the short wire insertion end with three color rings starting >> at the end with orange then green then black or navy. The stepped band for >> locking in shell has a small hole drilled into it. >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=246768#246768 >> >> >> Attachments: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/dscn0001_617.jpg >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ > > > Subject: Avionics-List: Re: SL40 D sub pins > From: "wesk" <wsknettl(at)centurytel.net> > > > Thanks > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=246777#246777 > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ > > > Subject: Avionics-List: Re: VDO gauges > From: "rampil" <ira.rampil(at)gmail.com> > > > Roger, > You did not mention why you did this resistance check in the first place. > What meter problem did you have? > > The meter is supposed to measure the resistance of the probe using the > supply voltage. An R check of the meter itself might be meaningless > > Ira > > -------- > Ira N224XS > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=246791#246791 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 10, 2009
From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: Garmin 400 / 500 series memory cards
Anyone know what these things are inside? Where can I get a spare? Where can I get a reader (other than the Jeppesen Skybound thingy)? Does anyone make a PCMCIA adapter for it? My Apollo GX60 just bit the dust - no repairs available for the screen and the rest of the machine works fine. I'll be trading in in for a GNC420W - quite painful..... I really want to have spare cards like I had with my GX60...I really don't want to spend Garmin or Jeppesen price money.... Thanks, Ralph Capen ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Phil Samuelian <psamuelian(at)charter.net>
Subject: Re: Avionics-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 06/10/09
Date: Jun 11, 2009
> Hi Ralph: I think the Skybound hardware just insures that the file that you buy from Jeppeson only gets loaded on one card. Other than that, Ithink it's just a standard card and reader. How much is Garmin going to credit you for the GX60? How did the display break? Phil > From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen(at)earthlink.net> > Subject: Avionics-List: Garmin 400 / 500 series memory cards > > > Anyone know what these things are inside? > Where can I get a spare? > Where can I get a reader (other than the Jeppesen Skybound thingy)? > Does anyone make a PCMCIA adapter for it? > > My Apollo GX60 just bit the dust - no repairs available for the > screen and the > rest of the machine works fine. I'll be trading in in for a GNC420W > - quite painful..... > I really want to have spare cards like I had with my GX60...I really > don't want > to spend Garmin or Jeppesen price money.... > > Thanks, > Ralph Capen ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Avionics-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 06/10/09
Date: Jun 11, 2009
Interesting thought - I'll look closely at it when I get it. The standard discount is $2000. I can't see anything actually broken - the display just quit working. The radio still transmits and receives and the GPS still gets signal and sends info to the MX20....just can't do anything with it.... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Samuelian" <psamuelian(at)charter.net> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 7:02 PM Subject: Avionics-List: Re: Avionics-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 06/10/09 > > >> Hi Ralph: > I think the Skybound hardware just insures that the file that you buy > from Jeppeson only gets loaded on one card. > Other than that, Ithink it's just a standard card and reader. > How much is Garmin going to credit you for the GX60? > How did the display break? > Phil > > >> From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen(at)earthlink.net> >> Subject: Avionics-List: Garmin 400 / 500 series memory cards >> >> >> Anyone know what these things are inside? >> Where can I get a spare? >> Where can I get a reader (other than the Jeppesen Skybound thingy)? >> Does anyone make a PCMCIA adapter for it? >> >> My Apollo GX60 just bit the dust - no repairs available for the screen >> and the >> rest of the machine works fine. I'll be trading in in for a GNC420W - >> quite painful..... >> I really want to have spare cards like I had with my GX60...I really >> don't want >> to spend Garmin or Jeppesen price money.... >> >> Thanks, >> Ralph Capen > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: <bakerocb(at)cox.net>
Subject: IFR Certification
Date: Jun 12, 2009
6/11/2009 Hello Stan, You wrote: "This may not be the ideal forum for asking this question, but I'll try it anyway." Actually, this (AeroElectric-List) is the ideal forum for asking this question. This topic has been hashed out extensively on the aeroelectric list. If you are interested in better understanding the situation go to the aeroelectric archives and search for "encoder approval". You will find many entries under this search phrase and there are other search phrases that will also generate past postings on this subject. To save you some time searching take a look at some of the postings in August , 2006 with the subject "encoder approval" or "non TSO'd encoder". You received some good advice in response to your posting copied below -- just go to another agency capable of performing the required 14 CFR 91.411 "IFR certification" tests and have them perform the tests and provide the paper work. You'll be joining hundreds of other amateur builders happily flying IFR with non TSO'd altitude encoders that have passed the required tests of 14 CFR 91.411. 'OC' Says: "The best investment we can make is the effort to gather and understand knowledge." PS: Stein Bruch wrote: " Basically the information provided to you is completely false and not correct." That is not entirely true. In defense of your local avionics guy he is taking the same position that FAA headquarters took on the altitude encoder -- that is, the altitude encoder must either be TSO'd or be tested in accordance with 14 CFR paragraph 91.217 (b). The tests that FAA headquarters described for compliance with 91.217 (b) are very elaborate and extensive. ================================================ From: Speedy11(at)aol.com Subject: AeroElectric-List: IFR Certification This may not be the ideal forum for asking this question, but I'll try it anyway. I want to certify my RV-8 for IFR flight. I know the FARs - I've looked at them. I have the Blue Mountain EFIS One as primary instrumentation. I have the Blue Mountain EFIS Lite as a backup. Both EFISs are on different electrical busses - the main and the standby. - which can be tied together, if needed. I asked a local avionics guy about doing a pitot-static and transponder check for IFR. He said I would have to install a separate altimeter and encoder in order to get IFR certification. The EFIS has a built-in encod er. Has anyone else encountered this obstacle? Stan Sutterfield ________________________________________________________________________________
From: <bakerocb(at)cox.net>
Subject: IFR Certification
Date: Jun 12, 2009
6/12/2009 Hello Frank, You wrote: "Why pay twice if you don't have to?" I agree. To determine if a flight without a transponder is legal go to 14 CFR 91.215. Also note that permission for a flight without a transponder can be obtained as described in 91.215 (d). 'OC' Says: "The best investment we can make is the effort to gather and understand knowledge." ==================================================== From: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde(at)hp.com> Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Re: IFR Certification Don't if it was legal but I didn't do a VFR cert..I just labeled the Transp onder "Inooperative" and flew it to get the IFR cert done...Why pay twice i f you don't have to? Frank ________________________________________________________________________________
From: <bakerocb(at)cox.net>
Subject: IFR Certification
Date: Jun 13, 2009
6/13/2009 Hello Ira, You wrote: "If the boss at your local shop does not understand the regulations pertaining to OBAM aircraft, find another shop." I agree that finding another shop is the best way to resolve this situation. However outright condemnation of the boss for "not understand(ing) the regulations pertaining to OBAM aircraft" is not warranted. 1) The issue is not OBAM (amateur built experimental aircraft) versus standard type certificated aircraft. 2) 14 CFR 91.217 applies equally to both of those kinds of aircraft. 3) The fundamental issue relates to TSO'd versus non TSO'd altitude encoders. 4) Note that 91.217 applies to flight under VFR as well as flight under IFR. 5) Headquarters FAA is in agreement with the boss's position of not approving a non TSO'd altitude encoder unless the tests required by 14 CFR paragraph 91.217 (b) have been accomplished. 6) FAA Headquaters says that the tests required by 91.217 (b) are far more complex and demanding than the tests required by 91.411 and the associated appendicies of 14 CFR part 43. 7) Some people dispute FAA Headquarters position on this issue, but no one to date has adequately challenged them to change their position. 8) My current recommendations on this issue are: A) Understand the issues. (Hence this posting to you and fellow builders). B) Let sleeping dogs lie because if FAA Headquarers really tried to enforce their position it would cause chaos in the amateur built community because of the large number of non TSO'd altitude encoders already flying, being built into aircraft, and being manufactured. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks. 'OC' Says: "The best investment we can make is the effort to gather and understand knowledge." ============================================= Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: IFR Certification From: "rampil" <ira.rampil(at)gmail.com> My BMA system has served as my encoder for my Mode C for 5 years in the NYC area. Islip Avionics had absolutely no issue with the certifications. If the boss at your local shop does not understand the regulations pertaining to OBAM aircraft, find another shop. Especially, since they would, if they finally elect to do the work, would take twice as long and charge twice as much! -------- Ira N224XS ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: IFR Certification
From: "rampil" <ira.rampil(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jun 13, 2009
Actually I didn't condemn the boss, I simply referenced the boss as the key to the problem. I am familiar with the issues you raised which is why when finally got IFR certification for myself, I treated my airframe to a brand new Sandia SAE5-35 TSO'd blind encoder. For VFR into B, C airspace the BMA should be fine according to my reading of the regs. -------- Ira N224XS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=247961#247961 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: <bakerocb(at)cox.net>
Subject: IFR Certification
Date: Jun 14, 2009
6/14/2009 Hello Ira, Thanks for your input. You wrote: 1) "For VFR into B, C airspace the BMA should be fine according to my reading of the regs." Note that the wording of 14 CFR 91.217 makes no distinction between the requirement for either a TSO'd altitude encoder (91.217 (c)) or a tested altitude encoder (91.217 (b)) for mode C operations (automatic pressure altitude reporting equipment) under IFR or VFR. Further, no class of airspace is excluded from the requirements of 91.217 by the wording therein. Can you cite some regulation that says otherwise? 2) "I treated my airframe to a brand new Sandia SAE5-35 TSO'd blind encoder." A valid solution. When people have attempted to get the assistance of EAA to change / clarify FAA Headquarter's position on this subject that is what EAA has recommended -- just install a TSO'd altitude encoder. 'OC' Says: "The best investment we can make is the effort to gather and understand knowledge." =============================================== Subject: Avionics-List: Re: IFR Certification From: "rampil" <ira.rampil(at)gmail.com> Actually I didn't condemn the boss, I simply referenced the boss as the key to the problem. I am familiar with the issues you raised which is why when finally got IFR certification for myself, I treated my airframe to a brand new Sandia SAE5-35 TSO'd blind encoder. For VFR into B, C airspace the BMA should be fine according to my reading of the regs. -------- Ira N224XS ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: KLX 135A internal battery
From: "rfelley" <rfelley(at)nehalemtel.net>
Date: Jun 17, 2009
As someone fully capable in printed circuit board repair I feel I won't have any surprises when I open up my panel mounted GPS to replace the internal memory battery but! I am wondering if anyone out there has already done this and might be willing to share the experience with me. Thanks in advance, Rich -------- 1957 C-182A Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=248815#248815 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 18, 2009
From: Robin Hou <rmhou(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: KLX 135A internal battery
Hi Rich, Try here: http://www.csobeech.com/KLX135A-InternalBattery.html Robin Hou, KEMT 64 S35 N7947K Subject: Avionics-List: KLX 135A internal battery From: "rfelley" <rfelley(at)nehalemtel.net> As someone fully capable in printed circuit board repair I feel I won't hav e any surprises when I open up my panel mounted GPS to replace the internal memor y battery but! I am wondering if anyone out there has already done this and m ight be willing to share the experience with me. Thanks in advance, Rich -------- 1957 C-182A Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=248815#248815 le, List Admin. =0A=0A=0A ________________________________________________________________________________
From: <bakerocb(at)cox.net>
Subject: Head Set Jacks Location
Date: Jun 29, 2009
6/29/2009 Hello Angier, You wrote: "..... behind the pilot/co-pilot seatback ......" Congratulations. After decades of flying many different types of aircraft with many different locations for the head set jacks I came to the conclusion that locating the jacks behind the pilot and copilot seats was the best solution. I built my airplane that way and it has worked great. When the pilot's jacks are behind the copilot's seat and the copilot's jacks are behind the pilot's seat it makes it possible to both see and manipulate the plugs while seated and strapped into your seat. I have used this benefit many times. Also the plugs are not banging into your knees while plugged into the instrument panel and the wires are not dangling across your lap. 'OC' Says: "The best investment we can make is the effort to gather and understand knowledge." ===================================== From: "Angier M. Ames" <N4ZQ(at)comcast.net> Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: Splicing of 2 or 3 conductor shielded cable I am relocating the comm and mic jacks in my Lancair to a position behind the pilot/co-pilot seatback and so the comm and mic cables need to be lengthened. Any suggestions here for what would be the best method for splicing additional length to these cables and also maintaining the integrity of the shields? Thanks ________________________________________________________________________________
From: <bakerocb(at)cox.net>
Subject: BMA Quitting
Date: Jul 10, 2009
7/10/2009 Below copied for your info from the BMA web site. 'OC' Says: "The best investment we can make is the effort to gather and understand knowledge." =============================================== "Well, it's been fun. We developed a whole new class of machine, started an industry, dominated it, and are now leaving it. BMA will be ceasing production and spinning down. The best way to contact us is via email: support(at)bluemountainavionics.com. Please don't call, since the office is not staffed on a scheduled basis. We'll still be around to service, support and assist as time permits, homebuilders helping other homebuilders, but BMA is essentially closed. This website is paid up and will be around for a few years at least, and there is some hope (and a fond desire) that we may return to full production when the economy recovers. Database updates are still be available on this site, and service, maintenance and repairs are still available for all BMA products. We are actively seeking someone to buy the code and continue development. If your interested, please email." ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Mike Lord <lordm87(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: Northstar M3 Database
Date: Jul 11, 2009
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Subject: Re: Garmin "Aviation" data protocol
From: "shannonex" <shannonexhowel(at)yahoo.in>
Date: Jul 17, 2009
Is 28 too old to commence a career in aviation? Hello! Is 28 too old to commence a career in aviation? I began flying trying 18 months ago, part-time, after completing a degree and working full-time, and expect to complete a PPL mid-year. -------- i need help Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=253449#253449 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Bill Schoen <flybill2usa(at)msn.com>
Subject: Re: Garmin "Aviation" data protocol
Date: Jul 17, 2009
If your heart is in it=2C it is never too old. I would suggest you find aq good used cessna 172=2C buy it and find an instructor to teach you in your airplane=2C then fly it a lot as soon as you solo and get your PPL. You wi ll save a lot of money in the long run. Airplane prices are favorable at th e time and in a few years when/if the economy recovers=2C airplanes have al ways appreciated in value and you should be able to sell a good used 172 ju st about any time you need to. If you are a big city dweller it will be mo re expensive to keep and maintain any airplane.(hangars/maintnance etc) but if you are near a small town airport=2C things will be much easier and che aper to pursue your aviation career goals. I know of several airline pilots who didn't start their career until their mid 40's. This will cost you a b ig seniority advantage with larger airlines but there are other rewarding f lying careers. Do it for the love of flying and you can't loose. Do it fo r money only and you may loose. Bill Schoen > Subject: Avionics-List: Re: Garmin "Aviation" data protocol > From: shannonexhowel(at)yahoo.in > Date: Fri=2C 17 Jul 2009 01:11:33 -0700 > To: avionics-list(at)matronics.com > > > > Is 28 too old to commence a career in aviation? Hello! Is 28 too old to c ommence a career in aviation? I began flying trying 18 months ago=2C part-t ime=2C after completing a degree and working full-time=2C and expect to com plete a PPL mid-year. > > -------- > i need help > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=253449#253449 > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Fuel Flow - Hoskins FT 101 Fuel Flow not working
From: "rogrbal" <rogrbal(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Jul 18, 2009
Hoskins FT 101 Fuel Flow not working: 1. Lights stay on - all zeros 2. Unplugging connector in rear gets it working for a while, then it goes to #1 state again. 3. Resetting by doing #2 does not carry forward any fuel used between resets. 4. If reset it every time it goes to state #1, it will accumulate all the fuel used while working. Only missing that used while in state #1. Since it always shows some power applied, I do not think this is an intermittent power problem. Since it accumulates, I do not think this is a problem in the wire going to the battery for residual power to retain accumulated fuel. The transducer has three wires to it, maybe one of them is the problem. Since doing #2 always fixes it, maybe the problem is in or near this plug? Any ideas help?? Wiring diagram is available at http://www.instrumenttech.com/productsupport.shtml Look in the POH for the FT101A. It shows the plug pin diagram. Although I have a 101 the only difference I can tell, is that the type reading - gallons, pounds, etc. - is user resetable vice manufacturer set. Thanks for your ideas. Need to fix it tomorrow - Sunday 7/19/09 Roger -------- Thanks for the help. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=253625#253625 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/ft_101a_fuelflow_poh_254.pdf ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Garmin 496
Date: Aug 04, 2009
From: teamgrumman(at)aol.com
I bought a 496 last year with all of the extra goodies, XM, road maps (auto), adaptors, antennas, cables, lots of stuff. ? I'd sell it all for $1800. Gary ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 14, 2009
Subject: com Antenna
From: peterc(at)pipcom.com
Would one of you knowledgeable guys give some comments on this? Would an ACK ELT 17.5" whip with the 18 turn coiled part near the end work as a com antenna? I also have a used Cessna 598501-0104 streamline base 23" antenna that I can use. Do you know if it actually is a com antenna and when I install it are the 4 mounting bolts enough to connect it to the ground plane or does the whole base have to make contact? Would appreciate any feedback thanks Peter ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: com Antenna
From: "jetboy" <sanson.r(at)xtra.co.nz>
Date: Aug 16, 2009
The ELT antenna might work but is unlikely to meet the installation standards for VSWR. Thin radiator with loading coils and no base impedance match is a hard task to get right. The ELT only had to work at 121 / 243 MHz. For Com you need 118-136 Mhz and dont want response at 243 MHz, that should be suppressed. Cant be specific about the Cessna antenna unless you know the manufacturer part no. such as Dorne-Margolin (DM.....) most of these are very suitable antennas and fit with a cork gasket to the fuselage AND a doubler plate where the 4 nuts mount the antenna so they have a good grounding via the mount plate. Ralph -------- Ralph - CH701 / 2200a Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=258066#258066 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Wanted a KT 76a Mounting tray
From: "Thruster87" <alania(at)optusnet.com.au>
Date: Aug 16, 2009
I'm looking for a install kit and a mounting tray [p/n 047-03898-0002]for a KT 76a [p/n 066-1062-00] transponder if you have one please send a PM Cheers Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=258113#258113 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 17, 2009
Subject: com antenna
From: peterc(at)pipcom.com
Thanks Ralph, I'll try the Cessna one. Peter ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca>
Subject: com Antenna
Date: Aug 19, 2009
I recommend putting a ground braid on one of the nuts you would use to attach the Cessna antenna to the airplane. That antenna should give you better service than the ELT antenna which is designed to operate best at one frequency only. The Cessna antenna should also be a bit faster on the outside of your plane. Noel -----Original Message----- From: owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of peterc(at)pipcom.com Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 1:56 PM Subject: Avionics-List: com Antenna Would one of you knowledgeable guys give some comments on this? Would an ACK ELT 17.5" whip with the 18 turn coiled part near the end work as a com antenna? I also have a used Cessna 598501-0104 streamline base 23" antenna that I can use. Do you know if it actually is a com antenna and when I install it are the 4 mounting bolts enough to connect it to the ground plane or does the whole base have to make contact? Would appreciate any feedback thanks Peter ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 20, 2009
Subject: com antenna
From: peterc(at)pipcom.com
OK Noel, I'll do that when I try that antenna. Because the ELT antenna was already mounted, I took the easy way and tried it with the com. The frequencies I used were 119.3 to 123.0 and the reception was as good as I've ever had with any radio (it is a KY-97). Transmission was just fine too. Will still try the other antenna. The tray and board for the 97 looks exactly like an Icom I have. Are they in fact equivelent pin outs? Thanks again. Peter ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: KAA-445 King Audio Panel Sidetone question
From: "tjyak50" <tomjohnson(at)cox.net>
Date: Aug 21, 2009
I have a KAA-445 installed in a turboprop. We were having voice feedback through the overhead speaker while transmitting. I found a setting on the KAA-445 blackbox with a POT called Speaker Transmit Sidetone. Seems whenever we transmit, the Audio Panel was giving unwanted sidetone through the overhead speaker even though we already had it via the intercom. I turned it to ZERO and things seem much better. Is this just an old feature from when people used hand mics? Also... , how do I adjust the sidetone on a KTR-905? Is there a POT in the back? or inside the box somewhere? TJ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=259005#259005 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "6440 Auto Parts" <sales(at)6440autoparts.com>
Subject: Re: KAA-445 King Audio Panel Sidetone question
Date: Aug 21, 2009
You will have better luck asking about this on the Aeroelectric forum on Matronics ----- Original Message ----- From: "tjyak50" <tomjohnson(at)cox.net> Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 2:48 PM Subject: Avionics-List: KAA-445 King Audio Panel Sidetone question > > I have a KAA-445 installed in a turboprop. > > We were having voice feedback through the overhead speaker while > transmitting. > > I found a setting on the KAA-445 blackbox with a POT called Speaker > Transmit Sidetone. Seems whenever we transmit, the Audio Panel was > giving unwanted sidetone through the overhead speaker even though we > already had it via the intercom. I turned it to ZERO and things seem > much better. Is this just an old feature from when people used hand mics? > > Also... , how do I adjust the sidetone on a KTR-905? Is there a POT in > the back? or inside the box somewhere? > > TJ > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=259005#259005 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 06:04:00 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Tom Goddard" <tomgoddard(at)ns.sympatico.ca>
Subject: KAA-445 King Audio Panel Sidetone question
Date: Aug 21, 2009
Hi, Side tone is a feature that allows you to hear, in your head set ear phones, as you speak into the mic. Tom -----Original Message----- From: owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of tjyak50 Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 4:48 PM Subject: Avionics-List: KAA-445 King Audio Panel Sidetone question I have a KAA-445 installed in a turboprop. We were having voice feedback through the overhead speaker while transmitting. I found a setting on the KAA-445 blackbox with a POT called Speaker Transmit Sidetone. Seems whenever we transmit, the Audio Panel was giving unwanted sidetone through the overhead speaker even though we already had it via the intercom. I turned it to ZERO and things seem much better. Is this just an old feature from when people used hand mics? Also... , how do I adjust the sidetone on a KTR-905? Is there a POT in the back? or inside the box somewhere? TJ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=259005#259005 Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 06:04:00 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 22, 2009
From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: Leftover parts for sale
I have an Apollo (UPSAT->Garmin) MX20 install kit and an Apollo (UPSAT->Garmin) GX50/55/60/65 rack tube and GPS antenna for sale. Will soon have an Apollo Annunciator Control Unit (ACU) for sale too. I'll piece it out - it's just sitting on the shelf taking up space right now. Ralph Capen ________________________________________________________________________________
From: <bakerocb(at)cox.net>
Subject: Rocky Mountain Instrument Information
Date: Aug 25, 2009
8/25/2009 This is provided for your information: "NEW SALES HAVE BEEN DISCONTINUED! Rocky Mountain Instrument has discontinued sales of both the microEncoder and the microMonitor. We will continue technical support, repairs and upgrades for as long as possible. As you can imagine, some custom components for the units are high cost and must be purchased in large quantities. It is not practical or profitable to continue to offer new kits or assembled units." 'OC' Says: "The best investment we can make is the effort to gather and understand knowledge." ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 25, 2009
From: Ron Quillin <rjquillin(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Horizon Inst P-1000
Wondering if any have information on this tach? http://www.horizoninstruments.com/ Operations manual, install manual, experience with one, other...? TIA Ron Q. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Don Curry" <don.curry(at)inbox.com>
Subject: Transponder Re-Check?
Date: Aug 29, 2009
I just had my biennial transponder/encoder certification (IAW FAR 91.413) done. The system passed and log book was signed off. On the very next flight, the transponder acted up. I had it pulled and sent off for repairs and it is due back Monday with a fresh 8130. Will I need another transponder/encoder cert IAW 91.413? Don ____________________________________________________________ FREE 3D EARTH SCREENSAVER - Watch the Earth right on your desktop! Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/earth ________________________________________________________________________________
From: <bakerocb(at)cox.net>
Subject: Transponder Re-Check?
Date: Aug 30, 2009
8/30/2009 Don Wrote "Will I need another transponder/encoder cert IAW 91.413?" Here is what 91.413 says: "91.413 ATC transponder tests and inspections. (a) No persons may use an ATC transponder that is specified in 91.215(a), 121.345(c), or 135.143(c) of this chapter unless, within the preceding 24 calendar months, the ATC transponder has been tested and inspected and found to comply with appendix F of part 43 of this chapter; and (b) Following any installation or maintenance on an ATC transponder where data correspondence error could be introduced, the integrated system has been tested, inspected, and found to comply with paragraph (c), appendix E, of part 43 of this chapter." It would appear that if you could satisfy yourself in some manner (preferably documented) that "data correspondence error" could not be introduced either by the repair or your subsequent reinstallation then no Appendix E recheck would be required. First flights after reinstallation should include some airborne check of the system with ATC. Why not ask the people who just did your check what their opinion is -- realizing that it may not be entirely unbiased. 'OC' Says: "The best investment we can make is the effort to gather and understand knowledge." ============================================ From: "Don Curry" <don.curry(at)inbox.com> Subject: Avionics-List: Transponder Re-Check? I just had my biennial transponder/encoder certification (IAW FAR 91.413) done. The system passed and log book was signed off. On the very next flight, the transponder acted up. I had it pulled and sent off for repairs and it is due back Monday with a fresh 8130. Will I need another transponder/encoder cert IAW 91.413? Don ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Gaby Levin" <galsys(at)bezeqint.net>
Subject: Need KT-70 pinout and instruction manual.
Date: Sep 03, 2009
Hi I am in need of the KT-70 mode S transponder pinout and operating manual. Thanks, Gabe ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Don Curry" <don.curry(at)inbox.com>
Subject: Need KT-70 pinout and instruction manual.
Date: Sep 03, 2009
> I am in need of the KT-70 mode S transponder pinout and operating manual. > Gabe Here's an excerpt from a manual on King Silver Crown equipment. It is the closest thing to an operating manual I have seen. Hope it helps. Don > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-avionics-list- > server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gaby Levin > Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 3:22 AM > To: avionics-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Avionics-List: Need KT-70 pinout and instruction manual. > > Hi > > I am in need of the KT-70 mode S transponder pinout and operating manual. > > Thanks, > > Gabe ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Gaby Levin" <galsys(at)bezeqint.net>
Subject: Re: Need KT-70 pinout and instruction manual.
Date: Sep 03, 2009
Hi Don, Do you know how to programm the unique aircraft 8 digit codes ? Thanks, Gaby ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Curry" <don.curry(at)inbox.com> Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 12:03 PM Subject: RE: Avionics-List: Need KT-70 pinout and instruction manual. >> I am in need of the KT-70 mode S transponder pinout and operating manual. >> Gabe > > Here's an excerpt from a manual on King Silver Crown equipment. It is the > closest thing to an operating manual I have seen. Hope it helps. > Don > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com > [mailto:owner-avionics-list- >> server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gaby Levin >> Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 3:22 AM >> To: avionics-list(at)matronics.com >> Subject: Avionics-List: Need KT-70 pinout and instruction manual. >> >> Hi >> >> I am in need of the KT-70 mode S transponder pinout and operating manual. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Gabe > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 18:03:00 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Gaby Levin" <galsys(at)bezeqint.net>
Subject: Re: Need KT-70 pinout and instruction manual.
Date: Sep 03, 2009
Thanks Don, It helped me a lot. I will have to digg for pinout as well. thanks again. Gaby ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Curry" <don.curry(at)inbox.com> Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 12:03 PM Subject: RE: Avionics-List: Need KT-70 pinout and instruction manual. >> I am in need of the KT-70 mode S transponder pinout and operating manual. >> Gabe > > Here's an excerpt from a manual on King Silver Crown equipment. It is the > closest thing to an operating manual I have seen. Hope it helps. > Don > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com > [mailto:owner-avionics-list- >> server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gaby Levin >> Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 3:22 AM >> To: avionics-list(at)matronics.com >> Subject: Avionics-List: Need KT-70 pinout and instruction manual. >> >> Hi >> >> I am in need of the KT-70 mode S transponder pinout and operating manual. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Gabe > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 18:03:00 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Don Curry" <don.curry(at)inbox.com>
Subject: Need KT-70 pinout and instruction manual.
Date: Sep 03, 2009
That information is in the install manual, which I sent directly to your email address (it was too large for Matronics). Don > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-avionics-list- > server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gaby Levin > Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 5:54 AM > To: avionics-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Re: Avionics-List: Need KT-70 pinout and instruction manual. > > > Hi Don, > > Do you know how to programm the unique aircraft 8 digit codes ? > > Thanks, > > Gaby > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Don Curry" <don.curry(at)inbox.com> > To: > Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 12:03 PM > Subject: RE: Avionics-List: Need KT-70 pinout and instruction manual. > > > >> I am in need of the KT-70 mode S transponder pinout and operating manual. > >> Gabe > > > > Here's an excerpt from a manual on King Silver Crown equipment. It is the > > closest thing to an operating manual I have seen. Hope it helps. > > Don > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-avionics-list- > >> server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gaby Levin > >> Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 3:22 AM > >> To: avionics-list(at)matronics.com > >> Subject: Avionics-List: Need KT-70 pinout and instruction manual. > >> > >> Hi > >> > >> I am in need of the KT-70 mode S transponder pinout and operating manual. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Gabe > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > 18:03:00 > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Gaby Levin" <galsys(at)bezeqint.net>
Subject: Re: Need KT-70 pinout and instruction manual.
Date: Sep 03, 2009
Ok, Thanks, I'll await for the installation manual ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Curry" <don.curry(at)inbox.com> Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 1:06 PM Subject: RE: Avionics-List: Need KT-70 pinout and instruction manual. > > That information is in the install manual, which I sent directly to your > email address (it was too large for Matronics). > Don > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com > [mailto:owner-avionics-list- >> server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gaby Levin >> Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 5:54 AM >> To: avionics-list(at)matronics.com >> Subject: Re: Avionics-List: Need KT-70 pinout and instruction manual. >> >> >> Hi Don, >> >> Do you know how to programm the unique aircraft 8 digit codes ? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Gaby >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Don Curry" <don.curry(at)inbox.com> >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 12:03 PM >> Subject: RE: Avionics-List: Need KT-70 pinout and instruction manual. >> >> >> >> I am in need of the KT-70 mode S transponder pinout and operating > manual. >> >> Gabe >> > >> > Here's an excerpt from a manual on King Silver Crown equipment. It is > the >> > closest thing to an operating manual I have seen. Hope it helps. >> > Don >> > >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com >> > [mailto:owner-avionics-list- >> >> server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gaby Levin >> >> Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 3:22 AM >> >> To: avionics-list(at)matronics.com >> >> Subject: Avionics-List: Need KT-70 pinout and instruction manual. >> >> >> >> Hi >> >> >> >> I am in need of the KT-70 mode S transponder pinout and operating > manual. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> Gabe >> > >> >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- >> >> >> >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> 18:03:00 >> >> >> >> > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 18:03:00 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Phil Samuelian <psamuelian(at)charter.net>
Subject: Re: Avionics-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 08/29/09
Date: Sep 03, 2009
> From: "Don Curry" <don.curry(at)inbox.com> > Subject: Avionics-List: Transponder Re-Check? > > > I just had my biennial transponder/encoder certification (IAW FAR > 91.413) > done. The system passed and log book was signed off. On the very > next > flight, the transponder acted up. I had it pulled and sent off for > repairs > and it is due back Monday with a fresh 8130. Will I need another > transponder/encoder cert IAW 91.413? Don If the transponder comes back with an 8130, then it has been tested IAW manufacturers specs and is ready for installation. So you will not need another cert. Phil ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Navaid AP1 - full left aileron
From: "zwakie" <mz(at)cariama.nl>
Date: Sep 03, 2009
Not sure if I can provide proper information on my little problem, but here goes hoping that there's someone out there that can help me out. I have a NAVAID AP1 with Smart Coupler II LE installed in my Europa. It has functioned without trouble so far. Ever since some work was performed behind the panel, the control head initiates full left aileron when I activate wing leveler (WL), and the servo does not stop when it reaches full deflection (the servo clutch then slips). Same thing happens when switching the control head to track (TK). My guess is that during the panel work some wire was disconnected or loosened. Tonight I have checked wiring the best I could without fully taking out the panel, but could not find anything amis. Did anyone ever experience the same thing, and if so, what was causing it? Thanks. Marcel Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=261298#261298 ________________________________________________________________________________
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Date: Sep 03, 2009
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Subject: micro-turbojet engine
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From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: SL-30 issues
Date: Sep 07, 2009
Folks, I'm just under 31 hours in to my test flying and have been trying to make sure everything in the panel is working properly. I'm trying to get the SL30 to power the S-TEC-30/GPSS autopilot (through the Century NSD1000 HSI) - and it doesn't seem to want to play. In the test mode, I can get the to/from, left/right, up/down, and NAV/GS flags to do what they're supposed to so I'm pretty confident that the wiring is OK. I can also tune in and hear the morse for the VOR station and verify the correct radial (with another NAV radio that isn't hooked to the autopilot) and the SL30 correctly displays to/from station and radial on it's face - So I'm thinking that the radio is working OK. Obviously, I need to break out the user manual for this thing - and maybe brush up on my VOR navigation techniques (but I was able to verify station and radial with another NAV radio). I think that I may also need to call Garmin/UPSAT/Apollo/IIMorrow tech support...after I read the manual. What do you think - what are the chances that my radio display output is hosed? It needs to go back for the SB fix anyway - so I may just bite the bullet..... Thanks, Ralph N822AR @ N06 - still flying off the hours...... ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 07, 2009
From: Rowland Carson <rowil(at)clara.net>
Subject: radio noise on xmit & xponder interrogation
My friend Tim (who does not inhabit this list) has had a problem arise with his comm radio that seems to have arisen suddenly, without any changes to the installation. He has a MicroAir 760 comm radio, with a FlightTech ITC402P intercom, installed in a Europa. Symptoms: intercom works fine, other stations' transmissions heard fine. When either (P1 or P2) of the PTT buttons is pressed, a loud distorted noise immediately occurs in both (noise-cancelling) headsets. The words of the person speaking are barely discernable through this. However, anyone listening to the transmission on another comm radio hears the voice OK with no distortion (well, no more than usual on any airband R/T!). So, the bad stuff is only happening on the sidetone circuit, not on the signal going out to the transmitter. A noise also occurs when the transponder is interrogated. It's usually not quite so loud as that heard with the PTT, and sounds like white noise in character. This does seem to come and go - on a recent trip we got so fed up with TSST, TSST, TSST at irregular intervals in the headphones that we turned off the xponder on the outbound leg because we couldn't concentrate. On the return leg we tried it to see if it was still happening - it seemed considerably quieter and then after some time ceased to occur at all (we were still getting interrogated). However, the distorted sidetone problem remained unabated. These may be 2 separate things but it's suspicious they have materialised at the same time. I'm a bit puzzled as to why this should have suddenly sprung up. My feeling is that it may be some poor earthing or poor screening in the microphone leads. But it would need to be somewhere common to both headset circuits as it is affecting each equally. We are planning a longer trip this weekend (3 hours each way) and will need to do much more talking this time. If there was a simple fix to try before then I'd love to hear about it! regards Rowland -- | Rowland Carson http://home.clara.net/rowil/ | ... that's Rowland with a 'w' ... ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: radio noise on xmit & xponder interrogation
From: "jetboy" <sanson.r(at)xtra.co.nz>
Date: Sep 10, 2009
Likely problem is RF getting into the intercom, so check earth braids there first. Ferrite beads placed over certain cables may help, but this cure is reserved for dealing with improper equipment or installations. The Microair radios do, as part of their "normal" function, transmit noise coming from both mics regardless of which ptt was pressed, but this noise is minor (with a correctly adjusted mic gain) and not the type of RF feedthrough noise you describe. I'm not quite sure whether his radio has also its own built in intercom, which should be disabled, or used instead of the external intercom. Ralph -------- Ralph - CH701 / 2200a Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=262492#262492 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Aircraft Components for sale
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Date: Sep 10, 2009
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Subject: Re: micro-turbojet engine
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Date: Sep 10, 2009
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Subject: Re: micro-turbojet engine
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Date: Sep 10, 2009
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Subject: Re: micro-turbojet engine
From: "li" <fishahah(at)hotmail.com>
Date: Sep 10, 2009
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Date: Sep 13, 2009
From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: SL-30 problem - on to the next phase
Thanks to those that responded to the initial post. Looks like reseating everything got things working - now I need to learn what it does and how to use it. Here's my configuration: S-Tec 30 dual axis autopilot with GPSS steering module. Century NSD 1000 HSI SL30 GNC420W Anyone else out there with a similar configuration? I am now able to get the SL30 NAV portion to display on the NSD 1000 which sends the signal to the GPSS module for tracking and I can get it to turn using the needle pointer. It doesn't seem to track very well in either the LO-TRK or HI-TRK modes. After getting back from my test flight and reading...the manual says something to the effect of starting within 10 degrees of the selected radial and within one needle-width before engaging either of the TRK modes. I didn't get this close before engaging the LO-TRK and it didn't seem to track well at all. Is it really that sensitive in the setup requirement? Does it really track well if it is set-up properly first? Following a GPS course is really tight and I am really happy with that feature - it does a real good job with the set-up and intercept all by itself. I am hoping that the VOR/LOC tracking is as good...even if I have to set it up first. As before, your input is appreciated, Ralph RV6A N822AR @ N06 31.8 hrs ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 13, 2009
From: "LARRY FLORMAN, M.D." <larryflo(at)prodigy.net>
Subject: Radio Noise
I have a bunch of noise in my headset, which is not ambient noise.- I hav e isolated it to the regulator and/or alternator.- I built a SeaRey with a 912 UL Rotax engine which has an intenral alternator.- I would have pre ferred to use one of the Radio Shack filters but they are off the market. - Is there a good substitute?- Ameriking? ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Radio Noise
From: "jetboy" <sanson.r(at)xtra.co.nz>
Date: Sep 14, 2009
Have you fitted the large (approx. 25,000 uF) capacitor to the regulator DC output? This is covered in some of the Rotax info and installation manuals for some of the homebuilt market radios. best to use a 105 degree C rated capacitor and not in the cabin area. Ralph -------- Ralph - CH701 / 2200a Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=262894#262894 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Need KT-70 pinout and instruction manual.
From: "n4291p" <n4291p(at)hotmail.com>
Date: Sep 14, 2009
Hello Don, I to need a pin out and operating manual for the KT-70 mode S transponder and do you know how to program the aircraft 8 digit codes Thanks for your help. Jan Prikkel jr Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=262899#262899 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 14, 2009
From: Larry Florman <larryflo(at)prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Radio Noise
Yes, There is a 22,000 installed. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 14, 2009, at 3:21 AM, "jetboy" wrote: Have you fitted the large (approx. 25,000 uF) capacitor to the regulator DC output? This is covered in some of the Rotax info and installation manuals for some of the homebuilt market radios. best to use a 105 degree C rated capacitor and not in the cabin area. Ralph -------- Ralph - CH701 / 2200a Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=262894#262894 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 14, 2009
From: Doug McNutt <douglist(at)macnauchtan.com>
Subject: Re: Radio Noise
>Yes, There is a 22,000 installed. > >On Sep 14, 2009, at 3:21 AM, "jetboy" wrote: >Have you fitted the large (approx. 25,000 uF) capacitor to the regulator DC output? If the noise can be described as a whine you may have a bad diode in the alternator. I donno about the Rotax but perhaps it has diodes mounted externally? One test is to see if the pitch of the whine changes with engine speed. Another is an oscilloscope connected to the power bus. -- --> So are we going to celebrate the start of a new decade at the end of this year? Or do the tens start at in January 2011? <-- ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: KX155 noise-only
From: "zwakie" <mz(at)cariama.nl>
Date: Sep 17, 2009
Being new to maintaining and troubleshooting issues with avionics, I am kind of hoping someone can put me in the right direction to get my NAV/COM set working again. My KX155 stopped functioning. All that I am getting now is noise in the headset. Not getting my voice echoed either. I've tried all variations for squelch and volume, on radio, headset and intercom - nothing but noise at every possible combination. When pressing the PTT-switch, the "T" for transmitting is showing, but I can't state for a fact that it actually is transmitting (I will test that on a dummy frequency using my handheld radio as a receiver the next time at the hangar). Does anybody have any suggestion to the most likely causes please? Thanks. Marcel Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=263477#263477 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: KX155 noise-only
From: "zwakie" <mz(at)cariama.nl>
Date: Sep 18, 2009
I just returned from my aircraft and tested transmission, using a handheld as a receiver. The radio IS still transmitting, so the problem is outputting to the headset through the intercom. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=263720#263720 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 18, 2009
From: Charlie England <ceengland(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: KX155 noise-only
Being new to maintaining and troubleshooting issues with avionics, I am kind of hoping someone can put me in the right direction to get my NAV/COM set working again. My KX155 stopped functioning. All that I am getting now is noise in the headset. Not getting my voice echoed either. I've tried all variations for squelch and volume, on radio, headset and intercom - nothing but noise at every possible combination. When pressing the PTT-switch, the "T" for transmitting is showing, but I can't state for a fact that it actually is transmitting (I will test that on a dummy frequency using my handheld radio as a receiver the next time at the hangar). Does anybody have any suggestion to the most likely causes please? Thanks. Marcel zwakie wrote: > > I just returned from my aircraft and tested transmission, using a handheld as a receiver. > > The radio IS still transmitting, so the problem is outputting to the headset through the intercom. > > Hi Marcel, I pasted your 1st message into this one to get all the symptoms together. What kind of noise? Is it 'white' noise like you'd hear on an AM radio tuned between stations, or an old TV set to an empty channel? If so, does the radio's volume control have no effect on the noise volume? If no effect, have you checked the nav section's volume? I've actually seen this happen to people on a couple of occasions with combo nav/comms. The nav (noise) volume can overwhelm everything else in the radio. If it's not white noise, and the nav volume is in fact turned down, and the comm volume is in fact turned down, is it a hum or buzz? If so, is it still there if you unplug your mic cord? If so, it might be that the audio output of the radio really does have a problem. Charlie ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: KX155 noise-only
From: "zwakie" <mz(at)cariama.nl>
Date: Sep 19, 2009
Hi Charlie, First of all, thanks for responding to this newbee's question! ceengland(at)bellsouth.ne wrote: > What kind of noise? Very similar to what you can hear in the WAV file in this ZIP-file, yet frequency on my radio seems to be a bit lower than in this sample: Sample White Noise (http://www.dogstar.dantimax.dk/testwavs/white.zip) So yes it is white noise. ceengland(at)bellsouth.ne wrote: > If so, does the radio's volume control have no effect on the noise volume? Negative. I did however notice that there was a slight drop in volume when pulling the COM kHz selector knob or the NAV IDENT knob. ceengland(at)bellsouth.ne wrote: > If no effect, have you checked the nav section's volume? Not sure if I have this checked, will do it next time at the hangar. ceengland(at)bellsouth.ne wrote: > If it's not white noise, and the nav volume is in fact turned down, and > the comm volume is in fact turned down, is it a hum or buzz? Don't know, will check as well. ceengland(at)bellsouth.ne wrote: > If so, is it still there if you unplug your mic cord? Don't know either, will have to check. ceengland(at)bellsouth.ne wrote: > If so, it might be that the audio output of the radio really does have a problem. Let's hope we won't have to reach that conclusion [Wink] Thanks. Marcel Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=263799#263799 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: KX155 noise-only
From: "zwakie" <mz(at)cariama.nl>
Date: Sep 19, 2009
Come to think of it, could it be something as simple as some wiring gone loose or terminal-connection breaking up? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=263800#263800 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 19, 2009
From: Charlie England <ceengland(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: KX155 noise-only
Charlie England wrote: > Being new to maintaining and troubleshooting issues with avionics, I > am kind of hoping someone can put me in the right direction to get my > NAV/COM set working again. > > My KX155 stopped functioning. All that I am getting now is noise in > the headset. Not getting my voice echoed either. I've tried all > variations for squelch and volume, on radio, headset and intercom - > nothing but noise at every possible combination. > > When pressing the PTT-switch, the "T" for transmitting is showing, but > I can't state for a fact that it actually is transmitting (I will test > that on a dummy frequency using my handheld radio as a receiver the > next time at the hangar). > > Does anybody have any suggestion to the most likely causes please? > > Thanks. > Marcel > > > zwakie wrote: >> >> I just returned from my aircraft and tested transmission, using a >> handheld as a receiver. >> >> The radio IS still transmitting, so the problem is outputting to the >> headset through the intercom. >> >> > > Hi Marcel, > > I pasted your 1st message into this one to get all the symptoms together. > > What kind of noise? Is it 'white' noise like you'd hear on an AM > radio tuned between stations, or an old TV set to an empty channel? If > so, does the radio's volume control have no effect on the noise > volume? If no effect, have you checked the nav section's volume? I've > actually seen this happen to people on a couple of occasions with > combo nav/comms. The nav (noise) volume can overwhelm everything else > in the radio. > > If it's not white noise, and the nav volume is in fact turned down, > and the comm volume is in fact turned down, is it a hum or buzz? If > so, is it still there if you unplug your mic cord? If so, it might be > that the audio output of the radio really does have a problem. > > Charlie > > >>Come to think of it, could it be something as simple as some wiring gone loose or terminal-connection breaking up? Marcel, To get help in troubleshooting, it's helpful to keep the communications (and troubleshooting steps/results) together and in sequence. If someone new sees one of the posts & wants to help, they need to see all the symptoms & what's already been tried. One thing I forgot to mention in the previous post is to simplify the system. You mentioned 'problem is outputting to the headset through the intercom'. Have you turned off the intercom while checking? If the system is set up correctly, the radio should be audible through the pilot's headset with the intercom turned off, and you should be able to transmit with it off, also. With the intercom in the circuit, that's an extra component that could be causing your problem. Another thing I forgot to mention that may be a really quick check, is to find another a/c with the same radio & swap yours into the other a/c's radio tray. If your radio actually has an internal problem, you'll get the same symptoms in the other a/c. If the problem is outside the radio (installation or a different component, like the intercom), then your radio will work normally in the other a/c. Charlie ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "DEAN PSIROPOULOS" <dean.psiropoulos(at)verizon.net>
Subject: Transmit troubles on comm radios
Date: Sep 22, 2009
Hi all: Maybe you can help with my transmit problems. I have a UPS Aviation Technologies (now Garmin AT) radio stack with SL-30 Nav Comm, GX-65 GPS/Comm, SL-70 transponder and SL-10MS audio panel (actually a PS-6000 with UPS AT nameplate). I checked out everything according to the installation manuals while the airplane was sitting on the ramp and the engine NOT running. Now that I've been flying a lot, I'm getting a crackling in the sidetone and when I look at the "TX" light on the radio it's flickering as if someone were pulsing the press-to-talk switch 4-5 times per second, even though I'm holding the PTT down tight. This happens on both radios and people in the pattern say I'm breaking up and garbled. I've tried several things looking for a solution, they are: 1) Turn down the MIC gains on both radios (in steps, a little at a time, over several flights). In the end I had them turned down so much I couldn't get a side tone in the earphones and suspect no-one could hear me at all. 2) I tried a couple different headsets (inexpensive non ANR types, Sigtronics and Pilot Avionics units, both around 15 years old but well taken care of and worked just fine in the Cessnas I used to rent). No joy. 3) I tried both headsets with and without foam muffs over the microphones. No difference that I could tell with or without the muffs. 4) Placed ferrite beads over both coax lines running to the transmit antennas (about 3/4 of the way down to the antennas, don't have access to the base of the antennas right now, but will when I remove the floor panels for annual inspection). No help! 5) Shut off the field in my B&C LR-60 alternator (with external regulator) to operate on battery only. No change (I'm using forest of ground tabs ala AEC philosophy and I'm NOT getting alternator noise in the reception of either radio so I didn't expect this to help but it was easy to test). 6)Since I used fine (24 gauge 5 condutor MAC servo cable, no shielding) wire to take the PTT signal from the PTT on the control stick to the pilots mic jack, I thought maybe that was causing a problem so I tried using the passengers PTT (wired with 22 ga shielded tefzel) instead of the pilots. No change. 7) The audio panel has a built in fail-safe feature that routes the PTT and mic/earphone signals direct to the number 1 NAV/COM in the event of audio panel failure. I shut off the audio panel and tried that. The NAV/COMM TX light comes on but still flickers and is crackly so it's not that. I of course could not test the #2 radio this way but would expect it to be the same. Transmit antenna location is under the belly of the airplane (all metal RV-6A). Two Comant bent whips about 40 inches apart just aft of the wing spar. The GPS portion of the GX-60 and VOR/ILS portion of the SL-30 work just fine. Comm. reception on both radios is loud and clear (at least I can hear people in the pattern even if I can't talk to them). When I originally ran through the installation checkout I left the settings on the radios at the factory recommended (transmit worked fine so I left the settings alone) and have been making changes to the Mic gains only. These are computer controlled radios so I'm wondering if I need to adjust any other parameters such as squelch (no pots to control squelch like the old days) after making the Mic gain adjustments. Could the two be somehow related through logic in the computer program that runs the radios? I'm really stumped, any suggestions? Any UPS AT radio stack users have this problem? How did you fix it? Should I run through the installation checkout with the engine running so as to have more noise impinging on the microphone while making adjustments? Don't like the idea of head down in the cockpit with engine running but I can tie down the airplane while doing the checks (I'm talking ground running here not trying to make adjustments in flight)! Thanks for the help. Dean Psiropoulos RV-6A N197DM Flying and tweeking. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 22, 2009
From: Dave Lammers <davelammers(at)mchsi.com>
Subject: Re: Transmit troubles on comm radios
It might be as simple as a poor ground from the PTT switch to ground Regards, Dave Lammers DEAN PSIROPOULOS wrote: > > > Hi all: > > Maybe you can help with my transmit problems. I have a UPS Aviation > Technologies (now Garmin AT) radio stack with SL-30 Nav Comm, GX-65 > GPS/Comm, SL-70 transponder and SL-10MS audio panel (actually a PS-6000 with > UPS AT nameplate). I checked out everything according to the installation > manuals while the airplane was sitting on the ramp and the engine NOT > running. Now that I've been flying a lot, I'm getting a crackling in the > sidetone and when I look at the "TX" light on the radio it's flickering as > if someone were pulsing the press-to-talk switch 4-5 times per second, even > though I'm holding the PTT down tight. This happens on both radios and > people in the pattern say I'm breaking up and garbled. I've tried several > things looking for a solution, they are: > > 1) Turn down the MIC gains on both radios (in steps, a little at a time, > over several flights). In the end I had them turned down so much I couldn't > get a side tone in the earphones and suspect no-one could hear me at all. > > 2) I tried a couple different headsets (inexpensive non ANR types, > Sigtronics and Pilot Avionics units, both around 15 years old but well taken > care of and worked just fine in the Cessnas I used to rent). No joy. > > 3) I tried both headsets with and without foam muffs over the microphones. > No difference that I could tell with or without the muffs. > > 4) Placed ferrite beads over both coax lines running to the transmit > antennas (about 3/4 of the way down to the antennas, don't have access to > the base of the antennas right now, but will when I remove the floor panels > for annual inspection). No help! > > 5) Shut off the field in my B&C LR-60 alternator (with external regulator) > to operate on battery only. No change (I'm using forest of ground tabs ala > AEC philosophy and I'm NOT getting alternator noise in the reception of > either radio so I didn't expect this to help but it was easy to test). > > 6)Since I used fine (24 gauge 5 condutor MAC servo cable, no shielding) wire > to take the PTT signal from the PTT on the control stick to the pilots mic > jack, I thought maybe that was causing a problem so I tried using the > passengers PTT (wired with 22 ga shielded tefzel) instead of the pilots. No > change. > > 7) The audio panel has a built in fail-safe feature that routes the PTT and > mic/earphone signals direct to the number 1 NAV/COM in the event of audio > panel failure. I shut off the audio panel and tried that. The NAV/COMM TX > light comes on but still flickers and is crackly so it's not that. I of > course could not test the #2 radio this way but would expect it to be the > same. > > Transmit antenna location is under the belly of the airplane (all metal > RV-6A). Two Comant bent whips about 40 inches apart just aft of the wing > spar. > > The GPS portion of the GX-60 and VOR/ILS portion of the SL-30 work just > fine. Comm. reception on both radios is loud and clear (at least I can hear > people in the pattern even if I can't talk to them). > > When I originally ran through the installation checkout I left the settings > on the radios at the factory recommended (transmit worked fine so I left the > settings alone) and have been making changes to the Mic gains only. These > are computer controlled radios so I'm wondering if I need to adjust any > other parameters such as squelch (no pots to control squelch like the old > days) after making the Mic gain adjustments. Could the two be somehow > related through logic in the computer program that runs the radios? > > I'm really stumped, any suggestions? Any UPS AT radio stack users have this > problem? How did you fix it? Should I run through the installation checkout > with the engine running so as to have more noise impinging on the microphone > while making adjustments? Don't like the idea of head down in the cockpit > with engine running but I can tie down the airplane while doing the checks > (I'm talking ground running here not trying to make adjustments in flight)! > Thanks for the help. > > Dean Psiropoulos > RV-6A N197DM > Flying and tweeking. > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Ron Raby" <ronr(at)advanceddesign.com>
Subject: Re: Transmit troubles on comm radios
Date: Sep 22, 2009
Dean I had a very similar problem. It turned out to be a poorly crimped pin on a purchased harness. Try inspecting at all the related connectors and pins. Ron Raby Lancair ES ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Lammers" <davelammers(at)mchsi.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 9:33 AM Subject: Re: Avionics-List: Transmit troubles on comm radios > > It might be as simple as a poor ground from the PTT switch to ground > Regards, > Dave Lammers > > DEAN PSIROPOULOS wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi all: >> >> Maybe you can help with my transmit problems. I have a UPS Aviation >> Technologies (now Garmin AT) radio stack with SL-30 Nav Comm, GX-65 >> GPS/Comm, SL-70 transponder and SL-10MS audio panel (actually a PS-6000 >> with >> UPS AT nameplate). I checked out everything according to the >> installation >> manuals while the airplane was sitting on the ramp and the engine NOT >> running. Now that I've been flying a lot, I'm getting a crackling in the >> sidetone and when I look at the "TX" light on the radio it's flickering >> as >> if someone were pulsing the press-to-talk switch 4-5 times per second, >> even >> though I'm holding the PTT down tight. This happens on both radios and >> people in the pattern say I'm breaking up and garbled. I've tried several >> things looking for a solution, they are: >> >> 1) Turn down the MIC gains on both radios (in steps, a little at a time, >> over several flights). In the end I had them turned down so much I >> couldn't >> get a side tone in the earphones and suspect no-one could hear me at all. >> >> 2) I tried a couple different headsets (inexpensive non ANR types, >> Sigtronics and Pilot Avionics units, both around 15 years old but well >> taken >> care of and worked just fine in the Cessnas I used to rent). No joy. >> >> 3) I tried both headsets with and without foam muffs over the >> microphones. >> No difference that I could tell with or without the muffs. >> >> 4) Placed ferrite beads over both coax lines running to the transmit >> antennas (about 3/4 of the way down to the antennas, don't have access to >> the base of the antennas right now, but will when I remove the floor >> panels >> for annual inspection). No help! >> >> 5) Shut off the field in my B&C LR-60 alternator (with external >> regulator) >> to operate on battery only. No change (I'm using forest of ground tabs >> ala >> AEC philosophy and I'm NOT getting alternator noise in the reception of >> either radio so I didn't expect this to help but it was easy to test). >> >> 6)Since I used fine (24 gauge 5 condutor MAC servo cable, no shielding) >> wire >> to take the PTT signal from the PTT on the control stick to the pilots >> mic >> jack, I thought maybe that was causing a problem so I tried using the >> passengers PTT (wired with 22 ga shielded tefzel) instead of the pilots. >> No >> change. >> >> 7) The audio panel has a built in fail-safe feature that routes the PTT >> and >> mic/earphone signals direct to the number 1 NAV/COM in the event of audio >> panel failure. I shut off the audio panel and tried that. The NAV/COMM >> TX >> light comes on but still flickers and is crackly so it's not that. I of >> course could not test the #2 radio this way but would expect it to be the >> same. >> Transmit antenna location is under the belly of the airplane (all metal >> RV-6A). Two Comant bent whips about 40 inches apart just aft of the wing >> spar. >> >> The GPS portion of the GX-60 and VOR/ILS portion of the SL-30 work just >> fine. Comm. reception on both radios is loud and clear (at least I can >> hear >> people in the pattern even if I can't talk to them). >> >> When I originally ran through the installation checkout I left the >> settings >> on the radios at the factory recommended (transmit worked fine so I left >> the >> settings alone) and have been making changes to the Mic gains only. >> These >> are computer controlled radios so I'm wondering if I need to adjust any >> other parameters such as squelch (no pots to control squelch like the old >> days) after making the Mic gain adjustments. Could the two be somehow >> related through logic in the computer program that runs the radios? >> I'm really stumped, any suggestions? Any UPS AT radio stack users have >> this >> problem? How did you fix it? Should I run through the installation >> checkout >> with the engine running so as to have more noise impinging on the >> microphone >> while making adjustments? Don't like the idea of head down in the >> cockpit >> with engine running but I can tie down the airplane while doing the >> checks >> (I'm talking ground running here not trying to make adjustments in >> flight)! >> Thanks for the help. >> >> Dean Psiropoulos >> RV-6A N197DM >> Flying and tweeking. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca>
Subject: Transmit troubles on comm radios
Date: Sep 23, 2009
Do receiving stations (tower etc) hear the crackle on your transmissions? Is the crackle only in your side tone. Do you hear the crackle on incoming signals? Noel -----Original Message----- From: owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Lammers Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:04 AM Subject: Re: Avionics-List: Transmit troubles on comm radios It might be as simple as a poor ground from the PTT switch to ground Regards, Dave Lammers DEAN PSIROPOULOS wrote: > > > Hi all: > > Maybe you can help with my transmit problems. I have a UPS Aviation > Technologies (now Garmin AT) radio stack with SL-30 Nav Comm, GX-65 > GPS/Comm, SL-70 transponder and SL-10MS audio panel (actually a PS-6000 with > UPS AT nameplate). I checked out everything according to the installation > manuals while the airplane was sitting on the ramp and the engine NOT > running. Now that I've been flying a lot, I'm getting a crackling in the > sidetone and when I look at the "TX" light on the radio it's flickering as > if someone were pulsing the press-to-talk switch 4-5 times per second, even > though I'm holding the PTT down tight. This happens on both radios and > people in the pattern say I'm breaking up and garbled. I've tried several > things looking for a solution, they are: > > 1) Turn down the MIC gains on both radios (in steps, a little at a time, > over several flights). In the end I had them turned down so much I couldn't > get a side tone in the earphones and suspect no-one could hear me at all. > > 2) I tried a couple different headsets (inexpensive non ANR types, > Sigtronics and Pilot Avionics units, both around 15 years old but well taken > care of and worked just fine in the Cessnas I used to rent). No joy. > > 3) I tried both headsets with and without foam muffs over the microphones. > No difference that I could tell with or without the muffs. > > 4) Placed ferrite beads over both coax lines running to the transmit > antennas (about 3/4 of the way down to the antennas, don't have access to > the base of the antennas right now, but will when I remove the floor panels > for annual inspection). No help! > > 5) Shut off the field in my B&C LR-60 alternator (with external regulator) > to operate on battery only. No change (I'm using forest of ground tabs ala > AEC philosophy and I'm NOT getting alternator noise in the reception of > either radio so I didn't expect this to help but it was easy to test). > > 6)Since I used fine (24 gauge 5 condutor MAC servo cable, no shielding) wire > to take the PTT signal from the PTT on the control stick to the pilots mic > jack, I thought maybe that was causing a problem so I tried using the > passengers PTT (wired with 22 ga shielded tefzel) instead of the pilots. No > change. > > 7) The audio panel has a built in fail-safe feature that routes the PTT and > mic/earphone signals direct to the number 1 NAV/COM in the event of audio > panel failure. I shut off the audio panel and tried that. The NAV/COMM TX > light comes on but still flickers and is crackly so it's not that. I of > course could not test the #2 radio this way but would expect it to be the > same. > > Transmit antenna location is under the belly of the airplane (all metal > RV-6A). Two Comant bent whips about 40 inches apart just aft of the wing > spar. > > The GPS portion of the GX-60 and VOR/ILS portion of the SL-30 work just > fine. Comm. reception on both radios is loud and clear (at least I can hear > people in the pattern even if I can't talk to them). > > When I originally ran through the installation checkout I left the settings > on the radios at the factory recommended (transmit worked fine so I left the > settings alone) and have been making changes to the Mic gains only. These > are computer controlled radios so I'm wondering if I need to adjust any > other parameters such as squelch (no pots to control squelch like the old > days) after making the Mic gain adjustments. Could the two be somehow > related through logic in the computer program that runs the radios? > > I'm really stumped, any suggestions? Any UPS AT radio stack users have this > problem? How did you fix it? Should I run through the installation checkout > with the engine running so as to have more noise impinging on the microphone > while making adjustments? Don't like the idea of head down in the cockpit > with engine running but I can tie down the airplane while doing the checks > (I'm talking ground running here not trying to make adjustments in flight)! > Thanks for the help. > > Dean Psiropoulos > RV-6A N197DM > Flying and tweeking. > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 23, 2009
From: Tammy and Mike Salzman <arrow54t(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Transmit troubles on comm radios
Hi Dean, There is a Garmin service bulletin out for spurious RF emissions. See link: SB 0921 Regards, Mike Salzman Lancair ES Fairfield, CA ________________________________ From: DEAN PSIROPOULOS <dean.psiropoulos(at)verizon.net> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 9:54:31 PM Subject: Avionics-List: Transmit troubles on comm radios Hi all: Maybe you can help with my transmit problems. I have a UPS Aviation Technologies (now Garmin AT) radio stack with SL-30 Nav Comm, GX-65 GPS/Comm, SL-70 transponder and SL-10MS audio panel (actually a PS-6000 with UPS AT nameplate). I checked out everything according to the installation manuals while the airplane was sitting on the ramp and the engine NOT running. Now that I've been flying a lot, I'm getting a crackling in the sidetone and when I look at the "TX" light on the radio it's flickering as......SNIP............ ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: KX155 noise-only
From: "zwakie" <mz(at)cariama.nl>
Date: Sep 24, 2009
I have good news: I found the cause! It turned out that the nav section's volume was not completely turned to silent. The volume knob was just a fraction from being closed, so I was very surprised that this fraction totally blocked the COM audio to my headset. Valuable lesson learned. What I would like to do next, is to find a way to minimize this effect. Any ideas? Marcel zwakie wrote: > Hi Charlie, > > First of all, thanks for responding to this newbee's question! > > > ceengland(at)bellsouth.ne wrote: > > What kind of noise? > > Very similar to what you can hear in the WAV file in this ZIP-file, yet frequency on my radio seems to be a bit lower than in this sample: Sample White Noise (http://www.dogstar.dantimax.dk/testwavs/white.zip) > So yes it is white noise. > > > ceengland(at)bellsouth.ne wrote: > > If so, does the radio's volume control have no effect on the noise volume? > > Negative. I did however notice that there was a slight drop in volume when pulling the COM kHz selector knob or the NAV IDENT knob. > > > ceengland(at)bellsouth.ne wrote: > > If no effect, have you checked the nav section's volume? > > Not sure if I have this checked, will do it next time at the hangar. > > > ceengland(at)bellsouth.ne wrote: > > If it's not white noise, and the nav volume is in fact turned down, and > > the comm volume is in fact turned down, is it a hum or buzz? > > Don't know, will check as well. > > > ceengland(at)bellsouth.ne wrote: > > If so, is it still there if you unplug your mic cord? > > Don't know either, will have to check. > > > ceengland(at)bellsouth.ne wrote: > > If so, it might be that the audio output of the radio really does have a problem. > > Let's hope we won't have to reach that conclusion [Wink] > > Thanks. > Marcel Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=264765#264765 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 25, 2009
From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: GX60 data cards ForSale
Since my GX60 has bitten the dust.... I now have three 4MB flash cards available for sale. I'm fairly certain they will fit the 50/55/65 also - please check first. I had one in the system, one with a backup of the current database, and one with the previous cycle database. $23 bucks each - I'll pay the shipping and throw in a carrying case. Even if I sell all three, I'll only have a down payment on a spare card for my GNC420W.....I know waaaah! ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Transmitting problem KingBendix KY97A - DRE-244E
From: "EdgePerformance" <post(at)edgeperformance.no>
Date: Sep 27, 2009
Hi, I just got my new Sonex #0037 but there`s a problem with the COMM system. It`s installed a King Bendix KY97A COMM and a DRE-244E intercom. The problem is that I cant transmit messages. At first I thought there was a wiring failure after seeing the horrible wiring that had been done, so I decided to take out all the wiring and start all over. I took the COMM and Intercom with me home and started making a new wire harness from COMM-Intercom and new wires to PTT`s, Headphone and Mic jacks. After to many hours with wiring and without any form for pin outs and diagrams I thought I had figured it out. But still the same problem accrued. The only piece of diagrams I could find for the KY97A and the DRE-244E intercom was this. http://rv.jpainter.org/docs/dre/pinouts.jpg http://rv.jpainter.org/docs/dre/schematic.jpg http://www.aeroelectric.com/Installation_Data/KY97A.pdf Not very useful but some. I went through all wires and connections but I couldn't find anything wrong. I can hear my self on the headset talking on the intercom, I have music input, the intercom volume and squelch works, I can receive messages from my hand held radio, and when pushing the Pilot PTT I get a LED light up on the intercom showing there is being transmitting a message. The TX synbol on the KY97A also lights up. The hand held radio only receives some buzzing noice and not any voice message. Any one got any ideas ? I am also very thankful for all help and if anyone has got some better diagrams for both COMM and Intercom. Thanks ! :D -------- Kitfox IV w\ Jabiru 2200 Turbo\Aerocarb Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=265190#265190 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca>
Subject: Transmit troubles on comm radios
Date: Sep 29, 2009
Just noticed the part where you say others in the pattern say you are breaking up. This puts the problem squarely in your PTT circuit. Most transmitters have a pin ground out to cause the transceiver to go into transmit mode. In your case That ground is dirty or loose. Check your pin out for the PTT and then check the appropriate circuitry. BUT FIRST.... Before you go pulling everything out I would recommend trying a different microphone if you are using one with the PTT on the mic or a different PTT switch which you would use for headsets. Dollare will get you doughnuts the problem is a dirty PTT switch. Noel -----Original Message----- From: owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-avionics-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ron Raby Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 1:07 PM Subject: Re: Avionics-List: Transmit troubles on comm radios Dean I had a very similar problem. It turned out to be a poorly crimped pin on a purchased harness. Try inspecting at all the related connectors and pins. Ron Raby Lancair ES ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Lammers" <davelammers(at)mchsi.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 9:33 AM Subject: Re: Avionics-List: Transmit troubles on comm radios > > It might be as simple as a poor ground from the PTT switch to ground > Regards, > Dave Lammers > > DEAN PSIROPOULOS wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi all: >> >> Maybe you can help with my transmit problems. I have a UPS Aviation >> Technologies (now Garmin AT) radio stack with SL-30 Nav Comm, GX-65 >> GPS/Comm, SL-70 transponder and SL-10MS audio panel (actually a PS-6000 >> with >> UPS AT nameplate). I checked out everything according to the >> installation >> manuals while the airplane was sitting on the ramp and the engine NOT >> running. Now that I've been flying a lot, I'm getting a crackling in the >> sidetone and when I look at the "TX" light on the radio it's flickering >> as >> if someone were pulsing the press-to-talk switch 4-5 times per second, >> even >> though I'm holding the PTT down tight. This happens on both radios and >> people in the pattern say I'm breaking up and garbled. I've tried several >> things looking for a solution, they are: >> >> 1) Turn down the MIC gains on both radios (in steps, a little at a time, >> over several flights). In the end I had them turned down so much I >> couldn't >> get a side tone in the earphones and suspect no-one could hear me at all. >> >> 2) I tried a couple different headsets (inexpensive non ANR types, >> Sigtronics and Pilot Avionics units, both around 15 years old but well >> taken >> care of and worked just fine in the Cessnas I used to rent). No joy. >> >> 3) I tried both headsets with and without foam muffs over the >> microphones. >> No difference that I could tell with or without the muffs. >> >> 4) Placed ferrite beads over both coax lines running to the transmit >> antennas (about 3/4 of the way down to the antennas, don't have access to >> the base of the antennas right now, but will when I remove the floor >> panels >> for annual inspection). No help! >> >> 5) Shut off the field in my B&C LR-60 alternator (with external >> regulator) >> to operate on battery only. No change (I'm using forest of ground tabs >> ala >> AEC philosophy and I'm NOT getting alternator noise in the reception of >> either radio so I didn't expect this to help but it was easy to test). >> >> 6)Since I used fine (24 gauge 5 condutor MAC servo cable, no shielding) >> wire >> to take the PTT signal from the PTT on the control stick to the pilots >> mic >> jack, I thought maybe that was causing a problem so I tried using the >> passengers PTT (wired with 22 ga shielded tefzel) instead of the pilots. >> No >> change. >> >> 7) The audio panel has a built in fail-safe feature that routes the PTT >> and >> mic/earphone signals direct to the number 1 NAV/COM in the event of audio >> panel failure. I shut off the audio panel and tried that. The NAV/COMM >> TX >> light comes on but still flickers and is crackly so it's not that. I of >> course could not test the #2 radio this way but would expect it to be the >> same. >> Transmit antenna location is under the belly of the airplane (all metal >> RV-6A). Two Comant bent whips about 40 inches apart just aft of the wing >> spar.


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