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August 06, 2015 - Present
> - Do you have any photos you could send me?
>
> - Has your program built previous aircraft, and if so, what type?
>
> Just off the top of my head, I=99d say (and this is only a
personal opinion) that the Europa, particularly the mono, is not a
suitable aircraft for primary flight training.
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| From: | "Peter Jeffers" <pjeffers(at)talktalk.net> |
Hi,
I have built a mono Europa from scratch and then flew it for some 1,800 hrs.
I had previously flown many types of gliders and light aircraft, amassing
about 700 hrs power and 1,500 hrs gliding. I was a fully categorised gliding
instructor and have spent 10 yrs as a class rated power instructor for the
Light Aero Association in the UK.
I only mention the above so that you have some idea of the validity of what
I am about to say.
The Mono Europa is not an easy aircraft to land or take off safely. In the
hands of an 'above average experience' pilot with tail dragger hours the
Mono is a delight to fly but challenging. The Mono is definitely not
suitable for early training. Be careful also as I am led to believe that
getting insurance cover for a Mono in the USA is between difficult and
impossible.
Bearing in mind that you appear to already have the kit I would strongly
urge you to consider building it as a Tri-Gear. Unfortunately this would
involve you in some more expense, but it is a much more user friendly
aircraft to fly.
If you continue to build as a Mono then it is only a matter of time, after
completion, before an incident will occur and whoever was flying it will be
put off flying for life.
One last recommendation is to power the aircraft with the engine it was
designed for, ie Rotax 912 or 914. Many alternative engines have been
installed in the past but each requires a different 'fire wall forward' kit.
Only the Rotax series of engines can be fitted with the Europa Aircraft
standard kit. The Rotax engine powers most Europas world wide and has proved
to be very reliable. This last comment cannot be said for certain other
Engines.
If you have need for any further communication then please ask.
Best regards and good wishes for your very commendable project
Pete Jeffers (LAA Inspector for the Europa Club)
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Idea
Innovations
Sent: 05 August 2015 17:32
Subject: Europa-List: Help Needed
-->
Good Morning Everyone on the Europa List
The Camden Youth Aviation Program has recently acquired a partially
completed mono-wheel Europa kit which it will be building with with the
middle and high school students of LEAP Academy
(http://www.leapacademycharter.org/).Once built it is our hope that the
young people who helped to build the aircraft would be able to take flight
lessons in the aircraft.
We are looking for volunteers in the Camden, NJ, Greater Philadelphia and
Wilmington, DE areas who have experience building the Europa to help lead
this project and to work with our young people. We are also hoping that
builders who have completed their aircraft would consider donating their no
longer needed tools to us.
The Camden Youth Aviation Program tries to show the young people of Camden
and Southern NJ all aspects of aviation and that there is more to life than
what they see in their neighborhoods. Also by introducing them to aviation,
we are hoping to give them something to dream about and to inspire them to
rise above the limits of their environment. The program is open to all
Camden and Southern NJ youth who are interested in aviation. Participation
in the Camden Youth Aviation Program is not limited to any one group or
organization, but welcomes all young people who are interested in aviation.
Additionally, the Camden Youth Aviation Program tries to act as a resource
to schools and youth groups to make them aware of the educational aviation
resources that are available to them. The Camden Youth Aviation Program was
established under the auspices of the former Camden Police Foundation and
the Diocese of Camden's Community Relations Advisory Board. The Camden
Youth Aviation Pr!
ogram is incorporated as a Non-Profit Corporation in the State of NJ and is
a certified 501(c)3 non-profit charity. More information about the Camden
Youth Aviation Program can be found on the Camden Youth Aviation Program
Facebook page and on our website at www.Camdenyap.org.
Please contact me if you have any questions about the post or if you are
willing to help us in any fashion to give inner city and under-served youth
the Dream of Flight.
I can be reached off list at camdenyouthaviation(at)live.com or via phone at
856-354-0173.
Thank You for your time and interest.
Sincerely,
Ira Weissman
Co-Founder, Camden Youth Aviation Program
--------
Giving The Youth Of Camden And Southern New Jersey The Dream Of Flight
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| From: | GRAHAM SINGLETON <grahamsingleton(at)btinternet.com> |
Very well explained Pete, I agree with every word.Graham
On Thursday, 6 August 2015, 9:26, Peter Jeffers wrote:
Hi,
I have built a mono Europa from scratch and then flew it for some 1,800 hrs
.
I had previously flown many types of gliders and light aircraft, amassing
about 700 hrs power and 1,500 hrs gliding. I was a fully categorised glidin
g
instructor and have spent 10 yrs as a class rated power instructor for the
Light Aero Association in the UK.
I only mention the above so that you have some idea of the validity of what
I am about to say.
The Mono Europa is not an easy aircraft to land or take off safely. In the
hands of an 'above average experience' pilot with tail dragger hours the
Mono is a delight to fly but challenging. The Mono is definitely not
suitable for early training. Be careful also as I am led to believe that
getting insurance cover for a Mono in the USA is between difficult and
impossible.
Bearing in mind that you appear to already have the kit I would strongly
urge you to consider building it as a Tri-Gear. Unfortunately this would
involve you in some more expense, but it is a much more user friendly
aircraft to fly.
If you continue to build as a Mono then it is only a matter of time, after
completion, before an incident will occur and whoever was flying it will be
put off flying for life.
One last recommendation is to power the aircraft with the engine it was
designed for, ie Rotax 912 or 914.=C2- Many alternative engines have been
installed in the past but each requires a different 'fire wall forward' kit
.
Only the Rotax series of engines can be fitted with the Europa Aircraft
standard kit. The Rotax engine powers most Europas world wide and has prove
d
to be very reliable.=C2- This last comment cannot be said for certain oth
er
Engines.
If you have need for any further communication then please ask.
Best regards and good wishes for your very commendable project
Pete Jeffers=C2- (LAA Inspector for the Europa Club)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Idea
Innovations
Sent: 05 August 2015 17:32
Subject: Europa-List: Help Needed
-->
Good Morning Everyone on the Europa List
The Camden Youth Aviation Program has recently acquired a partially
completed mono-wheel Europa kit which it will be building with with the
middle and high school students of LEAP Academy
(http://www.leapacademycharter.org/).Once built it is our hope that the
young people who helped to build the aircraft would be able to take flight
lessons in the aircraft.
We are looking for volunteers in the Camden, NJ, Greater Philadelphia and
Wilmington, DE areas who have experience building the Europa to help lead
this project and to work with our young people.=C2- We are also hoping th
at
builders who have completed their aircraft would consider donating their no
longer needed tools to us.
The Camden Youth Aviation Program tries to show the young people of Camden
and Southern NJ all aspects of aviation and that there is more to life than
what they see in their neighborhoods.=C2- Also by introducing them to avi
ation,
we are hoping to give them something to dream about and to inspire them to
rise above the limits of their environment.=C2- The program is open to al
l
Camden and Southern NJ youth who are interested in aviation.=C2- Particip
ation
in the Camden Youth Aviation Program is not limited to any one group or
organization, but welcomes all young people who are interested in aviation.
Additionally, the Camden Youth Aviation Program tries to act as a resource
to schools and youth groups to make them aware of the educational aviation
resources that are available to them. The Camden Youth Aviation Program was
established under the auspices of the former Camden Police Foundation and
the Diocese of Camden's Community Relations Advisory Board.=C2- The Camde
n
Youth Aviation Pr!
ogram is incorporated as a Non-Profit Corporation in the State of NJ and i
s
a certified 501(c)3 non-profit charity.=C2- More information about the Ca
mden
Youth Aviation Program can be found on the Camden Youth Aviation Program
Facebook page and on our website at www.Camdenyap.org.
Please contact me if you have any questions about the post or if you are
willing to help us in any fashion to give inner city and under-served youth
the Dream of Flight.
I can be reached off list at camdenyouthaviation(at)live.com or via phone at
856-354-0173.
Thank You for your time and interest.
Sincerely,
Ira Weissman
Co-Founder, Camden Youth Aviation Program
--------
Giving The Youth Of Camden And Southern New Jersey The Dream Of Flight
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| From: | DAVID JOYCE <stranfaer(at)btinternet.com> |
=C2-Hi Pete
Looks like you are having a bit of a "Jab" but at "who"
;-)
the other one=C2-Sent to you=C2-by David Joyce
www.eastmidsspas.com=C2- =C2-PLEASE NOTE WE HAVE MOVED AND ARE NOW ATTh
e Zycomm Building 51 Nottingham Road Ripley Derbys DE5 3AS160 Meters from S
ainsbury's Island=C2-Same Phone 0800 4102122 and Direct Mobile 07973 6757
55
=C2-
On Thursday, 6 August 2015, 10:27, GRAHAM SINGLETON wrote:
Very well explained Pete, I agree with every word.Graham
On Thursday, 6 August 2015, 9:26, Peter Jeffers wrote:
Hi,
I have built a mono Europa from scratch and then flew it for some 1,800 hrs
.
I had previously flown many types of gliders and light aircraft, amassing
about 700 hrs power and 1,500 hrs gliding. I was a fully categorised glidin
g
instructor and have spent 10 yrs as a class rated power instructor for the
Light Aero Association in the UK.
I only mention the above so that you have some idea of the validity of what
I am about to say.
The Mono Europa is not an easy aircraft to land or take off safely. In the
hands of an 'above average experience' pilot with tail dragger hours the
Mono is a delight to fly but challenging. The Mono is definitely not
suitable for early training. Be careful also as I am led to believe that
getting insurance cover for a Mono in the USA is between difficult and
impossible.
Bearing in mind that you appear to already have the kit I would strongly
urge you to consider building it as a Tri-Gear. Unfortunately this would
involve you in some more expense, but it is a much more user friendly
aircraft to fly.
If you continue to build as a Mono then it is only a matter of time, after
completion, before an incident will occur and whoever was flying it will be
put off flying for life.
One last recommendation is to power the aircraft with the engine it was
designed for, ie Rotax 912 or 914.=C2- Many alternative engines have been
installed in the past but each requires a different 'fire wall forward' kit
.
Only the Rotax series of engines can be fitted with the Europa Aircraft
standard kit. The Rotax engine powers most Europas world wide and has prove
d
to be very reliable.=C2- This last comment cannot be said for certain oth
er
Engines.
If you have need for any further communication then please ask.
Best regards and good wishes for your very commendable project
Pete Jeffers=C2- (LAA Inspector for the Europa Club)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Idea
Innovations
Sent: 05 August 2015 17:32
Subject: Europa-List: Help Needed
-->
Good Morning Everyone on the Europa List
The Camden Youth Aviation Program has recently acquired a partially
completed mono-wheel Europa kit which it will be building with with the
middle and high school students of LEAP Academy
(http://www.leapacademycharter.org/).Once built it is our hope that the
young people who helped to build the aircraft would be able to take flight
lessons in the aircraft.
We are looking for volunteers in the Camden, NJ, Greater Philadelphia and
Wilmington, DE areas who have experience building the Europa to help lead
this project and to work with our young people.=C2- We are also hoping th
at
builders who have completed their aircraft would consider donating their no
longer needed tools to us.
The Camden Youth Aviation Program tries to show the young people of Camden
and Southern NJ all aspects of aviation and that there is more to life than
what they see in their neighborhoods.=C2- Also by introducing them to avi
ation,
we are hoping to give them something to dream about and to inspire them to
rise above the limits of their environment.=C2- The program is open to al
l
Camden and Southern NJ youth who are interested in aviation.=C2- Particip
ation
in the Camden Youth Aviation Program is not limited to any one group or
organization, but welcomes all young people who are interested in aviation.
Additionally, the Camden Youth Aviation Program tries to act as a resource
to schools and youth groups to make them aware of the educational aviation
resources that are available to them. The Camden Youth Aviation Program was
established under the auspices of the former Camden Police Foundation and
the Diocese of Camden's Community Relations Advisory Board.=C2- The Camde
n
Youth Aviation Pr!
ogram is incorporated as a Non-Profit Corporation in the State of NJ and i
s
a certified 501(c)3 non-profit charity.=C2- More information about the Ca
mden
Youth Aviation Program can be found on the Camden Youth Aviation Program
Facebook page and on our website at www.Camdenyap.org.
Please contact me if you have any questions about the post or if you are
willing to help us in any fashion to give inner city and under-served youth
the Dream of Flight.
I can be reached off list at camdenyouthaviation(at)live.com or via phone at
856-354-0173.
Thank You for your time and interest.
Sincerely,
Ira Weissman
Co-Founder, Camden Youth Aviation Program
--------
Giving The Youth Of Camden And Southern New Jersey The Dream Of Flight
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| From: | "Peter Jeffers" <pjeffers(at)talktalk.net> |
I guess I am not allowed to mention names am I. You can probably guess
though.
Pete
From: owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of DAVID JOYCE
Sent: 06 August 2015 10:32
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Help Needed
Hi Pete
Looks like you are having a bit of a "Jab" but at "who"
;-)
the other one
Sent to you by David Joyce
<http://www.eastmidsspas.com/> www.eastmidsspas.com
PLEASE NOTE WE HAVE MOVED AND ARE NOW AT
The Zycomm Building 51 Nottingham Road Ripley Derbys DE5 3AS
160 Meters from Sainsbury's Island
Same Phone 0800 4102122 and Direct Mobile 07973 675755
On Thursday, 6 August 2015, 10:27, GRAHAM SINGLETON
wrote:
Very well explained Pete, I agree with every word.
Graham
On Thursday, 6 August 2015, 9:26, Peter Jeffers
wrote:
Hi,
I have built a mono Europa from scratch and then flew it for some 1,800
hrs.
I had previously flown many types of gliders and light aircraft,
amassing
about 700 hrs power and 1,500 hrs gliding. I was a fully categorised
gliding
instructor and have spent 10 yrs as a class rated power instructor for
the
Light Aero Association in the UK.
I only mention the above so that you have some idea of the validity of
what
I am about to say.
The Mono Europa is not an easy aircraft to land or take off safely. In
the
hands of an 'above average experience' pilot with tail dragger hours the
Mono is a delight to fly but challenging. The Mono is definitely not
suitable for early training. Be careful also as I am led to believe that
getting insurance cover for a Mono in the USA is between difficult and
impossible.
Bearing in mind that you appear to already have the kit I would strongly
urge you to consider building it as a Tri-Gear. Unfortunately this would
involve you in some more expense, but it is a much more user friendly
aircraft to fly.
If you continue to build as a Mono then it is only a matter of time,
after
completion, before an incident will occur and whoever was flying it will
be
put off flying for life.
One last recommendation is to power the aircraft with the engine it was
designed for, ie Rotax 912 or 914. Many alternative engines have been
installed in the past but each requires a different 'fire wall forward'
kit.
Only the Rotax series of engines can be fitted with the Europa Aircraft
standard kit. The Rotax engine powers most Europas world wide and has
proved
to be very reliable. This last comment cannot be said for certain other
Engines.
If you have need for any further communication then please ask.
Best regards and good wishes for your very commendable project
Pete Jeffers (LAA Inspector for the Europa Club)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Idea
Innovations
Sent: 05 August 2015 17:32
Subject: Europa-List: Help Needed
-->
Good Morning Everyone on the Europa List
The Camden Youth Aviation Program has recently acquired a partially
completed mono-wheel Europa kit which it will be building with with the
middle and high school students of LEAP Academy
(http://www.leapacademycharter.org/).Once built it is our hope that the
young people who helped to build the aircraft would be able to take
flight
lessons in the aircraft.
We are looking for volunteers in the Camden, NJ, Greater Philadelphia
and
Wilmington, DE areas who have experience building the Europa to help
lead
this project and to work with our young people. We are also hoping that
builders who have completed their aircraft would consider donating their
no
longer needed tools to us.
The Camden Youth Aviation Program tries to show the young people of
Camden
and Southern NJ all aspects of aviation and that there is more to life
than
what they see in their neighborhoods. Also by introducing them to
aviation,
we are hoping to give them something to dream about and to inspire them
to
rise above the limits of their environment. The program is open to all
Camden and Southern NJ youth who are interested in aviation.
Participation
in the Camden Youth Aviation Program is not limited to any one group or
organization, but welcomes all young people who are interested in
aviation.
Additionally, the Camden Youth Aviation Program tries to act as a
resource
to schools and youth groups to make them aware of the educational
aviation
resources that are available to them. The Camden Youth Aviation Program
was
established under the auspices of the former Camden Police Foundation
and
the Diocese of Camden's Community Relations Advisory Board. The Camden
Youth Aviation Pr!
ogram is incorporated as a Non-Profit Corporation in the State of NJ and
is
a certified 501(c)3 non-profit charity. More information about the
Camden
Youth Aviation Program can be found on the Camden Youth Aviation Program
Facebook page and on our website at www.Camdenyap.org.
Please contact me if you have any questions about the post or if you are
willing to help us in any fashion to give inner city and under-served
youth
the Dream of Flight.
I can be reached off list at camdenyouthaviation(at)live.com or via phone
at
856-354-0173.
Thank You for your time and interest.
Sincerely,
Ira Weissman
Co-Founder, Camden Youth Aviation Program
--------
Giving The Youth Of Camden And Southern New Jersey The Dream Of Flight
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| Subject: | Mono/Tri-Gear, height differences |
| From: | "italianjon" <jon.catilli(at)gmail.com> |
Hi All,
I am trying to find some information on a specific height difference between the
Mono and the Tri-gear. I am assuming on the Europa website the given height
will be to the highest point, which is both cases is the top of the tail.
What I am interested in is the height to the highest point between the doors, i.e.
the top of the cockpit.
In my hanger my Europa (Mono) lives under the wing of Cessna, and I can push the
my tail past the its wing tip easily. There is loads of space between the wing
tip of the Cessna and the top of my cockpit.
I am wondering if a Tri-gear would fit underneath also.
Cheers
Jon
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| From: | "Erich Trombley" <erichdtrombley(at)juno.com> |
Bill, Just went through this exercise. I was able to find the Rotax sen
sor, just not willing to spend $150 + for what should be a $25 part. I
ended up purchasing VDO 323-801-010-003K which is threaded for 12mm hole
. All other specifications are essentially the same as Rotax part. Usi
ng a lathe I turned down the threads and rethreaded for 10mm. Works gre
Subject: Europa-List: Re: cht sensors
From: "h&jeuropa" <butcher43(at)att.net>
Bill,
These do not seem to be available any longer. Perhaps someone will have
a spare
you can purchase.
If not, there are other VDO sensors with the same internals but differen
t threads.
You could purchase one of those that is a larger diameter and machine th
e
threads.
Jim Butcher
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| Subject: | Re: Takeoff technique and runway minima (trigear) |
| From: | "rampil" <ira.rampil(at)gmail.com> |
Hi all,
This is a question that can only be answered by a careful,
thoughtful test program. No one offs, please.
In old flapped Pipers, it is a common trick to suddenly pull
flaps to half or full when nearing Vr. One jumps off the ground
with little deceleration. It is a cowboy stunt. A moment of
wind shift or inattention and you are back on the ground - hard.
In a trigear like mine, this is a useless
thought since the flap motor is so slow.
Down here in Georgia where my field
is often at 3,000 - 3,500 density and 2400
in length, I usually use 5-10 of flaps but it is hard to see much difference.
--------
Ira N224XS
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| Subject: | Re: Brian Davies |
| From: | "rampil" <ira.rampil(at)gmail.com> |
Hi Steve!
What's a "strut", if not a structural member between
a wing and a fuselage?
Your faithful American Cousin
--------
Ira N224XS
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| From: | "rampil" <ira.rampil(at)gmail.com> |
Since the OP is in New Jersey, it is important to point
out that experimental home built aircraft are generally
not legal for primary instruction since they may not
be used either for hire, or for commercial purposes, i.e,
for paying a flight instructor. If the CFI volunteers for
the kids, it may be a different story.
At my field, the Candler Field Museum at GA2, we teach kids to
work on classic and antique aircraft and they earn an hour of flight
instruction for ten hours of work, but they fly a certificated
Cub they reconstructed under A&P supervision. Three of our kids
have already soloed in it.
Under no circumstance would I attempt primary instruction in a
Europa mono wheel. If you are lucky not to wreck it, you will
still scare the kids to death.
--------
Ira N224XS
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| From: | "rampil" <ira.rampil(at)gmail.com> |
Since the OP is in New Jersey, it is important to point
out that experimental home built aircraft are generally
not legal for primary instruction since they may not
be used either for hire, or for commercial purposes, i.e,
for paying a flight instructor. If the CFI volunteers for
the kids, it may be a different story.
At my field, the Candler Field Museum at GA2, we teach kids to
work on classic and antique aircraft and they earn an hour of flight
instruction for ten hours of work, but they fly a certificated
Cub they reconstructed under A&P supervision. Three of our kids
have already soloed in it.
Under no circumstance would I attempt primary instruction in a
Europa mono wheel. If you are lucky not to wreck it, you will
still scare the kids to death.
--------
Ira N224XS
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| Subject: | Re: Brian Davies |
| From: | Richard Holder <richard.holder(at)outlook.com> |
On 08/08/2015 01:48, rampil wrote:
>
> Hi Steve!
>
> What's a "strut", if not a structural member between
> a wing and a fuselage?
>
> Your faithful American Cousin
You would call it an EAA "Chapter".
Richard
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| Subject: | Re: Brian Davies |
| From: | "jonathanmilbank" <jdmilbank(at)yahoo.co.uk> |
Analogous with aircraft structure, it is one of the supporting elements of our
association.
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| Subject: | France: Deauville & Honflur |
| From: | "graeme bird" <graeme(at)gdbmk.co.uk> |
Enjoyed Uk to Deauville Friday. Cycled to Honflur; very pretty, 11km ride, coastal
road back. Flew straight over the water from Littlehampton to Le Havre on
the way out and tracked the Normandy Landing beaches round to Cherborg on the
way back.
Thing is I am confused about what's intended for the Coastal airfields; Calaise,
Cherbourg etc; they seem to have up to 5 zones around them and NOTAM'd as if
they are closed but then they are actually open as normal.
Had no problems at all flying through Cherbourg.
Also what the situation with airfields marked A/A FRENCH only; is that radio or
are foreigners not permitted there?
--------
Graeme Bird
G-UMPY
Mono Classic/XS FFW 912S/Woodcomp 3000/3W
Newby: 180 hours 4 years on the Mono
g(at)gdbmk.co.uk
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| From: | Kevin Challis <cakeykev(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: France: Deauville & Honflur |
a/a French just means all radio is in French as long as you make your calls in
French then no problem.
I use an idiot sheet. They laugh at me including my French passengers.
Kevin Challis
> On 8 Aug 2015, at 20:09, graeme bird wrote:
>
>
> Enjoyed Uk to Deauville Friday. Cycled to Honflur; very pretty, 11km ride, coastal
road back. Flew straight over the water from Littlehampton to Le Havre on
the way out and tracked the Normandy Landing beaches round to Cherborg on the
way back.
> Thing is I am confused about what's intended for the Coastal airfields; Calaise,
Cherbourg etc; they seem to have up to 5 zones around them and NOTAM'd as
if they are closed but then they are actually open as normal.
> Had no problems at all flying through Cherbourg.
>
> Also what the situation with airfields marked A/A FRENCH only; is that radio
or are foreigners not permitted there?
>
> --------
> Graeme Bird
> G-UMPY
> Mono Classic/XS FFW 912S/Woodcomp 3000/3W
> Newby: 180 hours 4 years on the Mono
> g(at)gdbmk.co.uk
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> Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Re: Takeoff technique and runway minima (trigear) |
| From: | Richard Holder <richard.holder(at)outlook.com> |
On 08/08/2015 01:43, rampil wrote:
> In a trigear like mine, this is a useless
> thought since the flap motor is so slow.
> Down here in Georgia where my field
> is often at 3,000 - 3,500 density and 2400
> in length, I usually use 5-10 of flaps but it is hard to see much difference.
Are you saying you use 5-10 of flaps for take-off ?
Mine stays on the ground for ages if I forget (!) to put
the flaps down !
I use 15 degrees on tarmac and 19 on grass.
With a 10 knot headwind I am off in 250 yards on tarmac
and 350 yards on grass (if it isn't too bumpy which messes
up the aerodynamics), Density altitude is normally about
300 feet though.
HTH
Richard Holder
G-OWWW
Europa Tri-Gear
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| Subject: | Radiator duct and cooling |
| From: | William Daniell <wdaniell.longport(at)gmail.com> |
I fitted my rad duct and the radiators and its all fine. Cowling fits as
well..
However the roof of the duct is pretty much up against the firewall. I am
assuming that i need to open the roof of the duct to provide an exit for
the air which comes in through the two round holes in the cowling. Is this
correct? Also I seem to remember that there is a ratio between inlet and
cooling air exhaust. Can anyone enlighten me?
Thanks
Will
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| Subject: | Re: Fly out Caernarfon Sat 8 Aug |
| From: | david park <dpark748(at)icloud.com> |
Perfect Wx for Caernarfon, nice trip from Sleap but had to leave early to vi
sit family member in hospital.
4 Europas there.
Regards Dave Park
Sent from my iPhone
> On 5 Aug 2015, at 11:09, davidjoyce(at)doctors.org.uk wrote:
>
> Just a reminder that we have a joint Europa Club/Gloster Strut fly out to C
aernarfon this Saturday. The forecast is currently looking very good, with a
bit of high pressure, clear skies and modest winds. Briefing sheet attached
Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ
>
>
>
>
>
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| From: | "Bud Yerly" <budyerly(at)msn.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Radiator duct and cooling |
Will.
Go to Cooling 101 in the techniques section of my website:
www.customflightcreations.com. It was also published in the flier and is
on other sites on the web.
Regards,
Bud Yerly
From: William Daniell
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 5:41 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Radiator duct and cooling
I fitted my rad duct and the radiators and its all fine. Cowling fits
as well..
However the roof of the duct is pretty much up against the firewall. I
am assuming that i need to open the roof of the duct to provide an exit
for the air which comes in through the two round holes in the cowling.
Is this correct? Also I seem to remember that there is a ratio between
inlet and cooling air exhaust. Can anyone enlighten me?
Thanks
Will
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| Subject: | Re: Brian Davies |
| From: | "rampil" <ira.rampil(at)gmail.com> |
Thanks All for the enlightenment!
A good candidate for the UK US transitional dictionary!
--------
Ira N224XS
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| Subject: | Re: Takeoff technique and runway minima (trigear) |
| From: | "rampil" <ira.rampil(at)gmail.com> |
Hi Richard,
Yes.
When I was based at latitude 41N and had a 4500 concrete runway at
sea level, I never used flaps for T/O. Never had a performance issue, but I
will admit to not carefully collecting flight test data on take off run. Sadly,
my BlueMountain data logging feature was discontinued in my G4 making
new collection more onerous.
At latitude 33 where the average temp feels 20F warmer, more humid,
and starting at 900' AGL, my habit is to use a small amount of flap on
my grass strip. Recall that with our flaps, lift increases in the early part
of travel and less in the late travel whereas drag increases mostly in the
late travel. Without flight test and therefore only my opinion/experience
5 - 10 of flaps increases lift (and minimally at t/o speed, induced drag)
and minimally increases form drag. Perhaps at half flap the lift is maxed
out without too much extra drag, I would think at 19 you are getting
more drag without much more lift. My strip is far too rough to take careful
measurements, but perhaps Europa could try a wee bit of CFD since they
have the form data and the software.
Cheers,
--------
Ira N224XS
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445712#445712
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| Subject: | Re: Radiator duct and cooling |
| From: | William Daniell <wdaniell.longport(at)gmail.com> |
Roger that
Thanks
On Aug 8, 2015 7:28 PM, "Bud Yerly" wrote:
> Will.
> Go to Cooling 101 in the techniques section of my website:
> www.customflightcreations.com. It was also published in the flier and is
> on other sites on the web.
>
> Regards,
> Bud Yerly
>
> *From:* William Daniell
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 08, 2015 5:41 PM
> *To:* europa-list(at)matronics.com
> *Subject:* Europa-List: Radiator duct and cooling
>
>
> I fitted my rad duct and the radiators and its all fine. Cowling fits a
s
> well..
> However the roof of the duct is pretty much up against the firewall. I a
m
> assuming that i need to open the roof of the duct to provide an exit for
> the air which comes in through the two round holes in the cowling. Is th
is
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> cooling air exhaust. Can anyone enlighten me?
> Thanks
> Will
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| From: | "Brian Davies" <brian.davies(at)clara.co.uk> |
| Subject: | Re: Takeoff technique and runway minima (trigear) |
Hi Ira,
In the more regulated UK world I suspect Europa did quite a bit of flight
testing to arrive at the take off flap setting of 18 deg. quoted in the
section 5 of their Owners Manual. Regarding CFD I know that the current
Europa (Swift) had a bit of trouble getting the Europa form into their
computer as some of it was originally designed and built using Nigel
Graham's CAD system ( Cardboard Aided Design).
Regards
Brian Davies
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of rampil
Sent: 09 August 2015 02:09
Subject: Europa-List: Re: Takeoff technique and runway minima (trigear)
Hi Richard,
Yes.
When I was based at latitude 41N and had a 4500 concrete runway at sea
level, I never used flaps for T/O. Never had a performance issue, but I will
admit to not carefully collecting flight test data on take off run. Sadly,
my BlueMountain data logging feature was discontinued in my G4 making new
collection more onerous.
At latitude 33 where the average temp feels 20F warmer, more humid, and
starting at 900' AGL, my habit is to use a small amount of flap on my grass
strip. Recall that with our flaps, lift increases in the early part of
travel and less in the late travel whereas drag increases mostly in the late
travel. Without flight test and therefore only my opinion/experience
5 - 10 of flaps increases lift (and minimally at t/o speed, induced drag)
and minimally increases form drag. Perhaps at half flap the lift is maxed
out without too much extra drag, I would think at 19 you are getting more
drag without much more lift. My strip is far too rough to take careful
measurements, but perhaps Europa could try a wee bit of CFD since they have
the form data and the software.
Cheers,
--------
Ira N224XS
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| Subject: | Re: Takeoff technique and runway minima (trigear) |
| From: | "rampil" <ira.rampil(at)gmail.com> |
Hi Brian,
Interesting!
The reason I suggested CFD was that I had been told that one of the
first things David did on acquiring Europa was to obtain a high res 3D
laser scan model for CFD (and manufacturing).
As for my use of less flaps, that was based on my initial 40 hr flight
test program at KZPH in 2004. ZPH has long paved runways near SL.
Acceleration to 50 kt was faster with minimal flaps selected than half flaps.
This may have been impacted by my C.G. being rather forward and, having
just moved my main battery to the rear fuselage, I will reexamine the issue.
--------
Ira N224XS
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| From: | Jeremy Fisher <jffisher(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Fuel Tank Treatments |
I am looking for advice on whether and how to treat my fuel tank. I
inherited a project, which had been in build for no less than 17 years!
As a result, I am fairly sure that it has one of the early fuel tanks,
which I believe can have problems with ethanol fuel and delaminating or
cracking. I am thinking of treating it before it is filled for the
first time by brushing on a couple of coats of Jeffco 9700 or similar
through the access hole in the top of the tank; I have experience with
the Jeffco from my Lancair build. It is really expensive and a pain to
put on, but worth it if it stops future problems.
Has anyone tried this, or any similar treatment? I would really
appreciate any inputs.
Jerry Fisher
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| Subject: | Re: tri gear kit for sale |
| From: | "danbish99" <bdanbish(at)gmail.com> |
Hi Howard- - was thinking of selling my project due to not being able to get insurance
on a monowheel here in the states. I love the dang monowheel and can't
imagine going tri but it's either that or quit altogether. How much is the tri
kit?
Thanks,
Dan
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445750#445750
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| Subject: | Re: tri gear kit for sale |
| From: | "danbish99" <bdanbish(at)gmail.com> |
Hi Howard- - was thinking of selling my project due to not being able to get insurance
on a monowheel here in the states. I love the dang monowheel and can't
imagine going tri but it's either that or quit altogether. How much is the tri
kit?
Thanks,
Dan
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445751#445751
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| From: | "Steven Pitt" <steven.pitt2(at)ntlworld.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Fly out Caernarfon Sat 8 Aug |
Dave,
Good to see you at Caernarfon if only in passing. I take it you did not
count the Liberty amongst the Europas present!! ;-)
Sorry that our (events) leader was unable to attend due to a broken
turbo - hope you managed to get it fixed David.
Excellent day out and great to have an opportunity to fly in the Liberty
and compare the two stable mates - thanks Ray.
Best wishes and here is to more Doths in the months to come.
Steve Pitt
G-SMDH (still in the workshop but getting there)
----- Original Message -----
From: david park
To: europa-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fly out Caernarfon Sat 8 Aug
Perfect Wx for Caernarfon, nice trip from Sleap but had to leave early
to visit family member in hospital.
4 Europas there.
Regards Dave Park
Sent from my iPhone
On 5 Aug 2015, at 11:09, davidjoyce(at)doctors.org.uk wrote:
Just a reminder that we have a joint Europa Club/Gloster Strut fly
out to Caernarfon this Saturday. The forecast is currently looking very
good, with a bit of high pressure, clear skies and modest winds.
Briefing sheet attached Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ
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| From: | GRAHAM SINGLETON <grahamsingleton(at)btinternet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: tri gear kit for sale |
What about converting it to a taildragger, then you have directional brakin
g?Graham
On Monday, 10 August 2015, 6:55, danbish99 wrote:
Hi Howard- - was thinking of selling my project due to not being able to ge
t insurance on a monowheel here in the states. I love the dang monowheel an
d can't imagine going tri but it's either that or quit altogether. How much
is the tri kit?
Thanks,
Dan
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| Subject: | Re: Fly out Caernarfon Sat 8 Aug |
| From: | James Kelly <europajimkelly(at)gmail.com> |
Hi David,
I decided to fly to Caernarfon after all. I expected an
awkward cross wind on my return to Tatenhill so I elected to use a disused
R/W 22 instead of 26, all went well.
This was my furthest solo flight I was delighted to meet a few Europa
members. I hope To attend more meetings in the future. I was disappointed
that you couldn't attend I was looking forward to meeting you.
Best wishes
Jim Kelly
G-BWEG
On Wednesday, August 5, 2015, wrote:
> Just a reminder that we have a joint Europa Club/Gloster Strut fly out to
> Caernarfon this Saturday. The forecast is currently looking very good, with
> a bit of high pressure, clear skies and modest winds. Briefing sheet
> attached Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ
>
>
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That's an ingenious solution Erich, but VDO offer their sensors in a
range of thread sizes (including 10 mm).
I've attached their catalogue for a bit of night-time reading.
A quick search shows that they are also available in Europe for around
E25. I never cease to be amused by Rotax's adventurous pricing.
Nigel
On 06/08/2015 21:07, Erich Trombley wrote:
> Bill,
> Just went through this exercise. I was able to find the Rotax sensor,
> just not willing to spend $150 + for what should be a $25 part. I
> ended up purchasing VDO 323-801-010-003K which is threaded for 12mm
> hole. All other specifications are essentially the same as Rotax
> part. Using a lathe I turned down the threads and rethreaded for
> 10mm. Works great.
> Regards,
> Erich
> Classic Mono 914
> Subject: Europa-List: Re: cht sensors
> From: "h&jeuropa" <butcher43(at)att.net
> <http://webmaila.juno.com/webmail/new/5?session_redirect=true&userinfo=7be7591fa5c138193e1c2846a1e1f604&count=1438888422&randid=1346492994>>
>
>
> Bill,
>
> These do not seem to be available any longer. Perhaps someone will
> have a spare
> you can purchase.
>
> If not, there are other VDO sensors with the same internals but
> different threads.
> You could purchase one of those that is a larger diameter and machine the
> threads.
>
> Jim Butcher
>
>
> ____________________________________________________________
> *Old School Yearbook Pics*
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| From: | "JohnFrance" <77alembert(at)gmail.com> |
Hello to all,
Does anyone have a plan of the tail-wheel stop that bolts onto the Tail Wheel Fork
XTW 07 to avoid damaging the cables and rudder horns if the aircraft is pushed
backwards?
If someone can send me a copy I would appreciate it.
Regards
John
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Europa mono Nr 192
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| From: | davidjoyce(at)doctors.org.uk |
| Subject: | Re: Fly out Caernarfon Sat 8 Aug |
Jim, Well done & sorry my turbo picked that moment for its waste gate to
jam fully open. We actually fixed it and flew up to arrive at Caernarfon
a bit gone 3.00pm but decided it was a bit late to land. Will hope to
see you at the Rally if not before. Regards, David
On 2015-08-10 09:17, James Kelly wrote:
> Hi David,
> I decided to fly to Caernarfon after all. I expected an awkward cross wind on
my return to Tatenhill so I elected to use a disused R/W 22 instead of 26, all
went well.
>
> This was my furthest solo flight I was delighted to meet a few Europa members.
I hope To attend more meetings in the future. I was disappointed that you couldn't
attend I was looking forward to meeting you.
>
> Best wishes
> Jim Kelly
> G-BWEG
>
> On Wednesday, August 5, 2015, wrote:
>
>> Just a reminder that we have a joint Europa Club/Gloster Strut fly out to Caernarfon
this Saturday. The forecast is currently looking very good, with a bit
of high pressure, clear skies and modest winds. Briefing sheet attached Regards,
David Joyce, GXSDJ
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fly out Caernarfon Sat 8 Aug |
| From: | david park <dpark748(at)icloud.com> |
Hi Steve,
Catch at the next one!
Dave
Sent from my iPhone
> On 10 Aug 2015, at 07:14, Steven Pitt wrote:
>
> Dave,
> Good to see you at Caernarfon if only in passing. I take it you did not co
unt the Liberty amongst the Europas present!! ;-)
> Sorry that our (events) leader was unable to attend due to a broken turbo -
hope you managed to get it fixed David.
> Excellent day out and great to have an opportunity to fly in the Liberty a
nd compare the two stable mates - thanks Ray.
> Best wishes and here is to more Doths in the months to come.
> Steve Pitt
> G-SMDH (still in the workshop but getting there)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: david park
> To: europa-list(at)matronics.com
> Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 11:28 PM
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fly out Caernarfon Sat 8 Aug
>
> Perfect Wx for Caernarfon, nice trip from Sleap but had to leave early to v
isit family member in hospital.
> 4 Europas there.
> Regards Dave Park
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>> On 5 Aug 2015, at 11:09, davidjoyce(at)doctors.org.uk wrote:
>>
>> Just a reminder that we have a joint Europa Club/Gloster Strut fly out to
Caernarfon this Saturday. The forecast is currently looking very good, with
a bit of high pressure, clear skies and modest winds. Briefing sheet attach
ed Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ
>>
>>
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| From: | "flyingphil2" <flyingphil627-europastuff(at)yahoo.co.uk> |
Hi,
This is not a Europa related question as such but there are a fair few Europa owners
with a Rotax 914-UL.
Does anyone with a 914 have anything really good or bad to say about the engine?
Are the running / maintenance costs greatly different to a 912-ULS? Does it
use mogas or avgas just as well? Are there any horror stories related to it
or is it just as good as the 912 but with an extra boost when you need it?
Thanks,
Phil
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 914-UL |
| From: | "jonathanmilbank" <jdmilbank(at)yahoo.co.uk> |
I was invited to do the flight testing for the initial issue of a UK permit in
a friend's mono- a few years ago and thereafter sat with him for several hours
while he became familiar with his aircraft. Apart from that we've done several
other flights together, both near and far. He's also done quite a bit of flying
on his own, seemingly without any trouble. Well, there was one occasion when
an EGT probe needed replacing but that was easy enough to sort out.
Compared with my 100hp 912ULS, the performance is quite exhilarating during take-off,
so much so that during my first fast taxi runs it actually got airborne
around 40 kts (below stall) which took me by surprise. Andy Draper informed me
(and I'm ready to be corrected if memory is failing me) that the stronger propeller
wash generates enough additional lift at the wing roots to cause this
effect. Anyway it definitely happened, so I often didn't bother to put the throttle
through the gate during take-off, using only 100hp and saving the extra
15hp for flying when carrying a passenger.
Climb rate when fully laden is in the order of 1400'/min with full power, which
goes to show that the turbo certainly delivers. The new 915is would be fun to
experience.
Because we used only unleaded mogas, I never got to see the benefits of the turbo
at altitude, but then again I've been a professional helicopter pilot for over
40 years and get nose-bleeds and the jitters much above 1000'. All the limited
heroism I ever had got used up when I was learning to fly in military Harvards
(AT6 Texans) when I was 18. Climbing to 10000' to do spins seemed a waste
of flying time which could have been better spent enjoying the scenery from
much closer to Mother Earth.
The basic 914 weighs 16 lbs more than the basic 912ULS. In level flight I recall
part of the initial test flying required Wide Open Throttle for a short dash
and my friend's mono- Europa hit Vne 165 knots easily enough. So, there are noticeable
performance benefits if you want them.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445762#445762
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| From: | davidjoyce(at)doctors.org.uk |
| Subject: | Re: Rotax 914-UL |
Phil, The turbo wastegate is a definite minus point although versions
more modern than mine now have a lubrication point in the shaft which
should limit the tendency to get stuck. Otherwise it clearly has the
extra power for getting out of tight spots, but the best aspect of it is
that it offers 100% power up to 17,000ft and stays just as efficient as
you climb whilst normally aspirated engines run out of puff. I can do
150kts TAS (130kts IAS) at 10k burning around 21l/hr, which I suspect is
beyond 912/S capabilities. It will use Mogas, UL91 or Avgas, but I try
to avoid the latter as every 91X engine should.
Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ
On 2015-08-10 11:53, flyingphil2 wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> This is not a Europa related question as such but there are a fair few Europa
owners with a Rotax 914-UL.
>
> Does anyone with a 914 have anything really good or bad to say about the engine?
Are the running / maintenance costs greatly different to a 912-ULS? Does it
use mogas or avgas just as well? Are there any horror stories related to it
or is it just as good as the 912 but with an extra boost when you need it?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Phil
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445760#445760 [1]
>
Links:
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[1] http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445760#445760
[2] http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List
[3] http://forums.matronics.com
[4] http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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| Subject: | Re: Tail wheel stop |
| From: | rparigor(at)suffolk.lib.ny.us |
Hi John
I fabricated one out of 7000 Aluminium:
http://www.europaowners.org/main.php?g2_itemId=27732
Side note is I didn't like the binding/grinding that was going on
because of the cable angles so turned some conical spacers that work
great. Info contained on the same link.
Ron Parigoris
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| From: | Neville Eyre <neveyre(at)aol.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Radiator duct and cooling |
Hi Will, sounds like you need to move the duct forward, there should be something
like a 1''+ gap between the rear [ 45 degree ] corner of the duct and the bottom
of the S/S firewall. Limiting factor is the coolant hoses to the rad' getting
too close to the exhaust, they will need lagging in firesleeve and reflective
foil oversleeve, [ good thing to do anyway]. Cutting holes in the ''roof''
will only make things worse, the high pressure air in the duct will go up into
the cowl and make a bad job worse.
Not very much air gets through the inlets as supplied, Bud's mod's to the cowl
set up would be the way to go if you intend to operate in warmer climates. We
[Bud and I ] came to the same conclusion at the same time, 3000 miles apart, which
is one of the reasons I did my own cowls / FWF Kit. There are pictures of
my cowls / baffles on this site somewhere, someone more ''techie'' might be
able to direct you to them ?
Cheers,
Nev
-----Original Message-----
From: William Daniell <wdaniell.longport(at)gmail.com>
Sent: Sat, Aug 8, 2015 10:42 pm
Subject: Europa-List: Radiator duct and cooling
I fitted my rad duct and the radiators and its all fine. Cowling fits as well..
However the roof of the duct is pretty much up against the firewall. I am assuming
that i need to open the roof of the duct to provide an exit for the air
which comes in through the two round holes in the cowling. Is this correct?
Also I seem to remember that there is a ratio between inlet and cooling air exhaust.
Can anyone enlighten me?
Thanks
Will
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 914-UL |
| From: | Robert Borger <rlborger(at)mac.com> |
Phil,
I only have good to say for my 914UL. Except for some overtightened
carb bowls (old torque specs) it has proven to be virtually trouble
free. It pulls my Tri off the ground quickly, very brisk acceleration,
climb out at 1400 fpm. At 6500=92, 29=94 MP, 5000 RPM provides 138 kts
true and 3.9 gph. I=92m sure the Airmaster C/S prop helps with all
these. I use 100LL exclusively as MoGas is not available on any of the
airfields from which I operate regularly and I don=92t like carting
around big jugs of MoGas. Just means I have to change the oil more
frequently and watch the lower plugs for fouling. Alcor TCP or Decalin
RunUp seem to help on those lead issues.
I can=92t imagine what the Europa would do with the new 915.
Blue skies & tailwinds,
Bob Borger
Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop (75 hrs).
Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208-5331
Cel: 817-992-1117
rlborger(at)mac.com
> On Aug 10, 2015, at 4:53 AM, flyingphil2
wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
>
> This is not a Europa related question as such but there are a fair few
Europa owners with a Rotax 914-UL.
>
> Does anyone with a 914 have anything really good or bad to say about
the engine? Are the running / maintenance costs greatly different to a
912-ULS? Does it use mogas or avgas just as well? Are there any horror
stories related to it or is it just as good as the 912 but with an extra
boost when you need it?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Phil
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 914-UL |
| From: | Bud Yerly <budyerly(at)msn.com> |
David and Phil give excellent differences. Here is what I tell my clients:
912S is a reasonable price=2C easy to maintain and easy to service.
It is shaky on start and stop so cracks in the exhaust should be watched cl
osely.
Takeoff is not spectacular=2C but ROC is about 500 FPM. TO Roll is 600-700
feet and initial climb is 800 ish with a constant speed prop.
Being normally aspirated=2C the Bing carbs don't lean well above 3500 MSL.
Normal cruise at 5500 MSL yields about 125-130 KTAS at 5.5GPH.
If you plan flight ops below 10K (5500-7500) it is adequate and can yield 2
5-28 NM/GAL
Runs on 90 octane auto fuel without a hitch.
It gives the most bang for the buck for the Rotax series.
Whereas:
The 914 is nearly twice the price.
Troubleshooting is more time consuming and many of us have studied the syst
ems but easy diagnosis is still time consuming.
Pressurized carbs require careful assembly and attention to leaks.
New TCU units can be electronically monitored and analyzed with DOS 8 compu
ter emulators ONLY.
Wastegates normally require lube (although AV gas seems to keep mine lubed)
Requires high octane in hot climates=2C at least 92-93. (I use 100LL)
However:
When combined with a constant speed propeller (more cost)=2C it is a terrif
ic performance altering addition to the Europa.
Takeoff roll is 550-600 feet at 45 KIAS fully loaded. (Ground static thrust
of 500 pounds.) You scarcely have time to check the engine instruments bef
ore you are at takeoff speed. Initial ROC 1500.
In tests=2C my lowly TRIGEAR climbs at max continuous power at an average o
f 700 FPM to 10=2C000 MSL at 90 KIAS fully loaded and some. Most efficient
cruise MPG seems to be 7500-10=2C000 MSL. I flight plan 1.5 GAL and 18 NM
to get to altitude.
It exceeds 140 knots easily at 1000 MSL at max continuous power.
Cruising at 9.5-10.5K=2C I make 140 KTAS at 5.5 all day. Slow down a bit a
nd I can easily get 28-30 NM/GAL.
Higher cruise altitude does not increase range significantly unless equippe
d with a long range tank and lightly built.
When you have to get over the weather quickly as I do=2C the 914 does it be
tter=2C and more reliable than any other engine out there.
The airplane is 20=2C000 compromises flying in close formation=2C the choic
es are yours.
Best Regards=2C
Bud Yerly
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
On Aug 10=2C 2015 6:58 AM=2C flyingphil2 wrote:
@yahoo.co.uk>
Hi=2C
This is not a Europa related question as such but there are a fair few Euro
pa owners with a Rotax 914-UL.
Does anyone with a 914 have anything really good or bad to say about the en
gine? Are the running / maintenance costs greatly different to a 912-ULS?
Does it use mogas or avgas just as well? Are there any horror stories rel
ated to it or is it just as good as the 912 but with an extra boost when yo
u need it?
Thanks=2C
Phil
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445760#445760
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| Subject: | Re: tri gear kit for sale |
| From: | Fred Klein <fklein(at)orcasonline.com> |
Danby all means, consider Bob Berubes conventional gearits not an arduous conversion
to make, and results in a rather elegant aircraft IMOFred
> On Aug 9, 2015, at 10:53 PM, danbish99 wrote:
>
>
> Hi Howard- - was thinking of selling my project due to not being able to get
insurance on a monowheel here in the states. I love the dang monowheel and can't
imagine going tri but it's either that or quit altogether. How much is the
tri kit?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dan
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445751#445751
>
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>
>
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| Subject: | Re: tri gear kit for sale |
| From: | Duanefamly <Duanefamly(at)aol.com> |
Have you thought about conventional gear?
Sent from my iPhone
> On Aug 9, 2015, at 10:53 PM, danbish99 wrote:
>
>
> Hi Howard- - was thinking of selling my project due to not being able to get
insurance on a monowheel here in the states. I love the dang monowheel and can't
imagine going tri but it's either that or quit altogether. How much is the
tri kit?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dan
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445751#445751
>
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| Subject: | aluminium avionics panels |
| From: | "JohnFrance" <77alembert(at)gmail.com> |
Hello, I am looking to upgrade my avionics panel using the aluminium IM04 and IM05!
panels. Does anyone have a plan of their profiles in (any format, dxf, solid
works or pdf) that I can use to refine the layout please? hole cut-outs, shapes
and sizes for all Europa switches, trim indicator etc would also be useful.
While I am at it, my present thinking is to use a Trig TY 91 radio and a Trig TT21
transponder and include a mount for a mini Ipad, but not flush fitting as
I find it useful to be able to orientate the screen according to light direction
and intensity.
If anyone has experience installing these components, especially where and how
to install the electronic boxes for TT21 and TY 91 I would appreciate your feedback.
Regards
John
--------
Europa mono Nr 192
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445775#445775
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| Subject: | Re: aluminium avionics panels |
| From: | Rowland Carson <rowlandcarson(at)gmail.com> |
On 10 Aug 2015, at 17:21, JohnFrance <77alembert(at)gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello, I am looking to upgrade my avionics panel using the aluminium IM04 and
IM05! panels. Does anyone have a plan of their profiles in (any format, dxf,
solid works or pdf) that I can use to refine the layout please? hole cut-outs,
shapes and sizes for all Europa switches, trim indicator etc would also be useful.
>
> While I am at it, my present thinking is to use a Trig TY 91 radio and a Trig
TT21 transponder and include a mount for a mini Ipad, but not flush fitting as
I find it useful to be able to orientate the screen according to light direction
and intensity.
> If anyone has experience installing these components, especially where and how
to install the electronic boxes for TT21 and TY 91 I would appreciate your feedback.
John - have a look at:
http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk/aviation/europa_435/radio_panel_trial_fit_2.php
http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk/aviation/europa_435/panels_anodized.php
http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk/aviation/europa_435/conduit_route.php
I used the factory-supplied radio blank panel and had it water-jet cut to my .DXF
file, then after anodising had it laser-etched by another firm. More details
available on my journal - use the search facility! Or come back to me direct
if you cant find what youre looking for.
in friendship
Rowland
| Rowland Carson ... that's Rowland with a 'w' ...
| http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk
| Skype, Twitter: rowland_carson Facebook: Rowland Carson
| pictures: http://picasaweb.google.com/rowlandcarson
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| From: | Pete <peterz(at)zutrasoft.com> |
| Subject: | Re: aluminium avionics panels |
I can't help with locating the boxes, but can chime in with a super endorsement
of the trig kit..... Awesome solid radios that not even my shaky hummelbird could
do damage to. In my tiny bird I mounted them behind my seat bulkHead (the
only feasible spot) which had the benefit of very short rf cable runs. I'm always
5x5.
For sure I will add a set (or at least the head units) to my Europa pile of parts
getting into formation.
Cheers,
Pete
A239
> On Aug 10, 2015, at 12:21 PM, JohnFrance <77alembert(at)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hello, I am looking to upgrade my avionics panel using the aluminium IM04 and
IM05! panels. Does anyone have a plan of their profiles in (any format, dxf,
solid works or pdf) that I can use to refine the layout please? hole cut-outs,
shapes and sizes for all Europa switches, trim indicator etc would also be useful.
>
> While I am at it, my present thinking is to use a Trig TY 91 radio and a Trig
TT21 transponder and include a mount for a mini Ipad, but not flush fitting as
I find it useful to be able to orientate the screen according to light direction
and intensity.
> If anyone has experience installing these components, especially where and how
to install the electronic boxes for TT21 and TY 91 I would appreciate your feedback.
>
> Regards
>
> John
>
> --------
> Europa mono Nr 192
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445775#445775
>
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>
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| Subject: | Trigear main wheel hub |
| From: | "Richard Wheelwright" <rpwheelwright(at)yahoo.co.uk> |
Not shure any one can help ???
I'm looking for a spare Trigear main wheel hub in serviceable condition to be used
as a spare for my aircraft. I know its a long shot but I may be lucky.
Thank You
Richard
--------
Richard Wheelwright
G-IRPW
First Flight 24th July 2013
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| Subject: | aluminium avionics panels |
| From: | mau11 <mau11(at)orange.fr> |
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| Subject: | Re: aluminium avionics panels |
| From: | "Roland" <schmidtroland(at)web.de> |
Hi John,
I have made a whole new panel, however it's not "LAA-certified".
I could arrange a new kit (upper GFK-cover and Aluminium-panels/3 sections) for
you at the shop in the Netherlands if you are interested.
Regards
Roland
PH-ZTI
XS Trigear 914
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| From: | Neville Eyre <neveyre(at)aol.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Radiator duct and cooling |
-----Original Message-----
From: Neville Eyre <neveyre(at)aol.com>
Sent: Mon, Aug 10, 2015 1:52 pm
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Radiator duct and cooling
Hi Will, sounds like you need to move the duct forward, there should be something
like a 1''+ gap between the rear [ 45 degree ] corner of the duct and the bottom
of the S/S firewall. Limiting factor is the coolant hoses to the rad' getting
too close to the exhaust, they will need lagging in firesleeve and reflective
foil oversleeve, [ good thing to do anyway]. Cutting holes in the ''roof''
will only make things worse, the high pressure air in the duct will go up into
the cowl and make a bad job worse.
Not very much air gets through the inlets as supplied, Bud's mod's to the cowl
set up would be the way to go if you intend to operate in warmer climates. We
[Bud and I ] came to the same conclusion at the same time, 3000 miles apart, which
is one of the reasons I did my own cowls / FWF Kit. There are pictures of
my cowls / baffles on this site somewhere, someone more ''techie'' might be
able to direct you to them ?
Cheers,
Nev
-----Original Message-----
From: William Daniell <wdaniell.longport(at)gmail.com>
To: europa-list
Sent: Sat, Aug 8, 2015 10:42 pm
Subject: Europa-List: Radiator duct and cooling
I fitted my rad duct and the radiators and its all fine. Cowling fits as well..
However the roof of the duct is pretty much up against the firewall. I am assuming
that i need to open the roof of the duct to provide an exit for the air
which comes in through the two round holes in the cowling. Is this correct?
Also I seem to remember that there is a ratio between inlet and cooling air exhaust.
Can anyone enlighten me?
Thanks
Will
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| Subject: | Re: aluminium avionics panels |
| From: | "Rick Moss" <Rkwmoss(at)gmail.com> |
I bought the Europa aluminium blanks, and then cut what I needed out of carbon
fibre.
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 914-UL |
| From: | "Roland" <schmidtroland(at)web.de> |
Although I was a victim of an overboost a few years ago and thus already needed
to replace the engine, I would always go for a 914 again, especially since my
flying is normally around FL 100 but also often above. At MTOM in FL 100 I see
TAS around 125 kt at 19 l/h.
In my experience the 914 runs happily on 95 octane premium car fuel (I refuel at
the car station on my trailer almost any time) up to temperatures of 40C OAT
and up to FL 160 without any hiccup. I cannot remember Rotax recommending another
fuel for the 914 compared to the 912S.
Another clear plus is, that the 914 is not at all prone to carburetor icing (at
least without intercooler).
Still the best Rotax engine in my opinion.
Regards
Roland
PH-ZTI
XS Trigear 914
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| Subject: | FREE TO GOOD HOME! |
Monowheel support free to good home. Available from Netherlands. Enquiries, please
email karen.ward@europa-aircraft.com
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Karen
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| From: | davidjoyce(at)doctors.org.uk |
| Subject: | Re: FREE TO GOOD HOME! |
Karen, Can you explain what it is exactly please? Regards, David Joyce,
GXSDJ
On 2015-08-11 10:45, Miss Europa wrote:
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> Monowheel support free to good home. Available from Netherlands. Enquiries, please
email karen.ward@europa-aircraft.com
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| Subject: | Re: FREE TO GOOD HOME! |
Yes David sorry. It supports the fuselage, has two wheels (a dolly). I
have a photo which I will email you, as I can't seem to add an attachment
on the Forum.
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Karen
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| Subject: | Re: FREE TO GOOD HOME! |
Item now on it's way to it's new home in the UK!
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Karen
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| Subject: | Re: tri gear kit for sale |
| From: | "h&jeuropa" <butcher43(at)att.net> |
Dan,
We just finished insurance renewal on our mono-wheel. Check with Sky Smith. We
have used them for several years and they have placed us with Global. Avemco
also gave us a quote.
Jim & Heather
N241BW
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| Subject: | Re: FREE TO GOOD HOME! |
| From: | "spcialeffects" <spcialeffects(at)aol.com> |
Welcome to the forum Miss Europa
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| From: | dpy01 <alanb(at)dpy01.co.uk> |
| Subject: | Re: FREE TO GOOD HOME! |
A photograph would still be appreciated please for those of use to construct a
solution.
Alan
#0303
Sent from my iPhone
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| From: | William Daniell <wdaniell.longport(at)gmail.com> |
Buds instructions are pretty comprehensive as usual
I shall move the round intake holes up to level with the spinner as
suggested.
I would very much like to see any pics of cooling shrouds/ducts. the
aluminium shrouds on Bud's website look like a lot of work.
thanks
Will
William Daniell
LONGPORT
+57 310 295 0744
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| From: | Paul Vallis <paulti56(at)aol.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Fly out Caernarfon Sat 8 Aug |
Congratulations Jim, you have obviously mastered the technique for landing t
he mono.
Hopefully I will see you at the airfield and have a Europa group, well two a
nyway meeting soon.
Paul Vallis
G-SAMY (tri)
Sent from my iPhone
> On 10 Aug 2015, at 09:17, James Kelly wrote:
>
> Hi David,
> I decided to fly to Caernarfon after all. I expected an a
wkward cross wind on my return to Tatenhill so I elected to use a disused R/
W 22 instead of 26, all went well.
>
> This was my furthest solo flight I was delighted to meet a few Europa memb
ers. I hope To attend more meetings in the future. I was disappointed that
you couldn't attend I was looking forward to meeting you.
>
> Best wishes
> Jim Kelly
> G-BWEG
>
>> On Wednesday, August 5, 2015, wrote:
>> Just a reminder that we have a joint Europa Club/Gloster Strut fly out to
Caernarfon this Saturday. The forecast is currently looking very good, with
a bit of high pressure, clear skies and modest winds. Briefing sheet attach
ed Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ
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| From: | Bud Yerly <budyerly(at)msn.com> |
Will=2C
Only the sealing of the radiators and the opening up of the exit area by mo
ving the firewall are necessary=2C provided you increase climb speed on lon
g duration climbs. 12AY and most others still cool quite well with just se
aling the radiator gaps=2C leaving the cowl stock=2C and moving the firewal
l to behind the nose wheel.
Mono's can use our flat firewall to increase cooling exit air.
If you have long ground taxi=2C must do max performance angles of climb in
30C or hotter weather=2C is engine plenum ducting necessary.
Regards=2C
Bud Yerly
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
On Aug 11=2C 2015 9:17 AM=2C William Daniell
wrote:
Buds instructions are pretty comprehensive as usual
I shall move the round intake holes up to level with the spinner as
suggested.
I would very much like to see any pics of cooling shrouds/ducts. the
aluminium shrouds on Bud's website look like a lot of work.
thanks
Will
William Daniell
LONGPORT
+57 310 295 0744
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| From: | William Daniell <wdaniell.longport(at)gmail.com> |
Thanks again Bud,
The thing is that I have the engine installed and the firewall done per the
manual. Id be loath to undo it all however if thats what it takes.....
Do you have an instruction of how to put the firewall behind the nose gear
frame? Or a picture at least. I can imagine roughly how it might be
done...im thinking putting in a bulkhead and lining it and the tunnel with
firewall blanket. I assume the bottom is not covered allowing the air to
exhaust.
Thanks
Will
On Aug 11, 2015 4:33 PM, "Bud Yerly" wrote:
> Will,
> Only the sealing of the radiators and the opening up of the exit area by
> moving the firewall are necessary, provided you increase climb speed on
> long duration climbs. 12AY and most others still cool quite well with just
> sealing the radiator gaps, leaving the cowl stock, and moving the firewall
> to behind the nose wheel.
>
> Mono's can use our flat firewall to increase cooling exit air.
>
> If you have long ground taxi, must do max performance angles of climb in
> 30C or hotter weather, is engine plenum ducting necessary.
>
> Regards,
> Bud Yerly
>
> *Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID*
> On Aug 11, 2015 9:17 AM, William Daniell
> wrote:
> Buds instructions are pretty comprehensive as usual
>
> I shall move the round intake holes up to level with the spinner as
> suggested.
>
> I would very much like to see any pics of cooling shrouds/ducts. the
> aluminium shrouds on Bud's website look like a lot of work.
>
> thanks
> Will
>
>
> William Daniell
> LONGPORT
> +57 310 295 0744
>
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| Subject: | Eastern US Fly-ins |
| From: | "h&jeuropa" <butcher43(at)att.net> |
There are two fly-ins coming up in September in the eastern US, both of which sound
like a lot of fun. Unfortunately, they are the same weekend. One is in Kentucky,
the other is in South Carolina. We encourage you to attend whichever
works for you based on your location and weather. It would be great to have
a group of Europas at both!
Triple Tree Aerodrome Fly-In
September 9-13, 2015
SC00 / Woodruff, SC
We plan to attend and camp at this fly-in and hope many other Europa owners will join us. The venue sounds terrific and there should be lots of planes to see, interesting seminars on Saturday, great food and nice grounds to walk and enjoy. The website with full details and arrival procedures is http://www.tripletreeaerodrome.com/triple-tree-fly-in.php
EAA Rough River Fly-In
September 11-13, 2015
2I3 / Rough River State Resort Park, KY
We have attended this fly-in and there are many activities, ranging from poker run & spot landing contests to bluegrass music on Friday night and a banquet on Saturday. The website for more information is http://kyeaasportaviation.tripod.com/
If the weather doesnt cooperate for SC, and is good for KY, well be there instead!
Jim & Heather, N241BW
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| From: | davidjoyce(at)doctors.org.uk |
Will, I missed the earlier stages of this thread, but an alternative
approach to the problem is to fit a propeller with a high degree of
twist. I had always had cooling issues (like having to shut down & wait
for things to cool down if delayed in a queue to take off at a rally)
with my low twist Woodcomp SR 2000 prop which were
transformed/eliminated on changing to a high twist Woodcomp Sr3000W,
quite apart from going faster and more economically. Warp drive blades
and most other blades seen on Rotax powered planes have twist (that is
difference in incidence between 1/3 radius & tip) of around12 degrees.
Simple analysis shows this is about right for sitting still at half
throttle. At air speeds of 100kts the central portion of such propellers
is working in beta mode effectively diverting air away from the cooling
inlets. Look at any WW2 warbird, racer or modern turbo prop and you will
find they all have twists of the order of 28 degrees so that at normal
operating speeds, the blade is producing effective thrust along its
whole length. I will send you, off network,the text of the
analysis/comparitive trials published in the Europa mag some years back.
Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ
On 2015-08-11 23:47, William Daniell wrote:
> Thanks again Bud,
> The thing is that I have the engine installed and the firewall done per the manual.
Id be loath to undo it all however if thats what it takes.....
> Do you have an instruction of how to put the firewall behind the nose gear frame?
Or a picture at least. I can imagine roughly how it might be done...im thinking
putting in a bulkhead and lining it and the tunnel with firewall blanket.
I assume the bottom is not covered allowing the air to exhaust.
> Thanks
> Will
> On Aug 11, 2015 4:33 PM, "Bud Yerly" wrote:
>
>> Will,
>> Only the sealing of the radiators and the opening up of the exit area by moving
the firewall are necessary, provided you increase climb speed on long duration
climbs. 12AY and most others still cool quite well with just sealing the
radiator gaps, leaving the cowl stock, and moving the firewall to behind the nose
wheel.
>>
>> Mono's can use our flat firewall to increase cooling exit air.
>>
>> If you have long ground taxi, must do max performance angles of climb in 30C
or hotter weather, is engine plenum ducting necessary.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Bud Yerly
>>
>> _Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID_
>> On Aug 11, 2015 9:17 AM, William Daniell wrote:
>>
>> Buds instructions are pretty comprehensive as usual
>>
>> I shall move the round intake holes up to level with the spinner as suggested.
>>
>> I would very much like to see any pics of cooling shrouds/ducts. the aluminium
shrouds on Bud's website look like a lot of work.
>>
>> thanks
>> Will
>>
>> William Daniell LONGPORT
>>
>> +57 310 295 0744
>>
>>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List [1]
>> onics.com [2]
>> ww.matronics.com/contribution [3]
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 914-UL |
| From: | "flyingphil2" <flyingphil627-europastuff(at)yahoo.co.uk> |
Thanks for all the replies on this subject.
I must admit that I was wary of the additional complexity of operation and maintenance
but it doesn't sound like that's a problem.
I almost purchased a flying mono a few years ago that had a 914 but didn't for
the very reason that it had a 914. Wish I had now .... it was a good one.
Anyway, I've recently flown behind a 914 and all of the numbers in your replies
stack up. The initial climb with turbo certainly leaves a smile on your face
and I also found that a perfectly safe take off could be achieved without using
the extra power.
Thanks,
Phil
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| Subject: | Re: Mono/Tri-Gear, height differences |
| From: | "Roland" <schmidtroland(at)web.de> |
Hi Jon,
I measured 1,56 m as "top of the Cockpit" of my XS Trigear.
Regards
Roland
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| From: | Bud Yerly <budyerly(at)msn.com> |
Will=2C
I'll dig up some photos when I get back next week. Pretty easy to do with
the engine off.
If you want to leave the firewall alone=2C consider making the exit of the
cowl wider as in Cooling 101.
Bud Yerly=2C
Custom Flight Creations=2C Inc.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
On Aug 11=2C 2015 6:58 PM=2C William Daniell
wrote:
Thanks again Bud=2C
The thing is that I have the engine installed and the firewall done per the
manual. Id be loath to undo it all however if thats what it takes.....
Do you have an instruction of how to put the firewall behind the nose gear
frame? Or a picture at least. I can imagine roughly how it might be
done...im thinking putting in a bulkhead and lining it and the tunnel with
firewall blanket. I assume the bottom is not covered allowing the air to
exhaust.
Thanks
Will
On Aug 11=2C 2015 4:33 PM=2C "Bud Yerly" wrote:
> Will=2C
> Only the sealing of the radiators and the opening up of the exit area by
> moving the firewall are necessary=2C provided you increase climb speed on
> long duration climbs. 12AY and most others still cool quite well with ju
st
> sealing the radiator gaps=2C leaving the cowl stock=2C and moving the fir
ewall
> to behind the nose wheel.
>
> Mono's can use our flat firewall to increase cooling exit air.
>
> If you have long ground taxi=2C must do max performance angles of climb i
n
> 30C or hotter weather=2C is engine plenum ducting necessary.
>
> Regards=2C
> Bud Yerly
>
> *Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID*
> On Aug 11=2C 2015 9:17 AM=2C William Daniell
> wrote:
> Buds instructions are pretty comprehensive as usual
>
> I shall move the round intake holes up to level with the spinner as
> suggested.
>
> I would very much like to see any pics of cooling shrouds/ducts. the
> aluminium shrouds on Bud's website look like a lot of work.
>
> thanks
> Will
>
>
> William Daniell
> LONGPORT
> +57 310 295 0744
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| From: | davidjoyce(at)doctors.org.uk |
| Subject: | Last of the Summer Wine |
The LSOW Trip is due to start on 13 September and now is the time I
would like to hear from anyone contemplating joining it, even if you are
not totally sure of being able to commit. Once we have an idea of
participants we can all join in planning the outline of the trip to best
please everyone.
Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ
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| Subject: | Re: Last of the Summer Wine |
| From: | James Kelly <europajimkelly(at)gmail.com> |
Hi David,
I would like to do the LSOW but my experience is very basic
and limited. I'd like to be included in the briefings and maybe I'll pluck
up the courage.
Jim
G-BWEG
On Friday, August 14, 2015, wrote:
> The LSOW Trip is due to start on 13 September and now is the time I would
> like to hear from anyone contemplating joining it, even if you are not
> totally sure of being able to commit. Once we have an idea of participants
> we can all join in planning the outline of the trip to best please everyone.
>
> Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ
>
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| Subject: | Re: Last of the Summer Wine |
| From: | david park <dpark748(at)icloud.com> |
Count me in please.
Dave Park. Based Sleap G-LDVO
Sent from my iPhone
> On 14 Aug 2015, at 19:23, davidjoyce(at)doctors.org.uk wrote:
>
> The LSOW Trip is due to start on 13 September and now is the time I would l
ike to hear from anyone contemplating joining it, even if you are not totall
y sure of being able to commit. Once we have an idea of participants we can a
ll join in planning the outline of the trip to best please everyone.
>
> Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| From: | davidjoyce(at)doctors.org.uk |
| Subject: | Re: Last of the Summer Wine |
Dave, Pleased to. David
On 2015-08-14 22:44, david park wrote:
> Count me in please.
> Dave Park. Based Sleap G-LDVO
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 14 Aug 2015, at 19:23, davidjoyce(at)doctors.org.uk wrote:
>
>> The LSOW Trip is due to start on 13 September and now is the time I would like
to hear from anyone contemplating joining it, even if you are not totally sure
of being able to commit. Once we have an idea of participants we can all join
in planning the outline of the trip to best please everyone.
>>
>> Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ
>
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| From: | davidjoyce(at)doctors.org.uk |
| Subject: | Re: Last of the Summer Wine |
Jim, Fine. Experience shouldn't be an issue - it is a deliberately
relaxed trip, not aiming to cover thousands of miles in a day and you
will have any help you need with things like flight plans, customs,
route planning. Where are you based? We can no doubt arrange for one of
our number to meet up and fly the leg over the channel in loose
formation if that is something you would find helpful.
Regards, David
On 2015-08-14 21:47, James Kelly wrote:
> Hi David,
> I would like to do the LSOW but my experience is very basic and limited. I'd
like to be included in the briefings and maybe I'll pluck up the courage.
>
> Jim
> G-BWEG
>
> On Friday, August 14, 2015, wrote:
>
>> The LSOW Trip is due to start on 13 September and now is the time I would like
to hear from anyone contemplating joining it, even if you are not totally sure
of being able to commit. Once we have an idea of participants we can all join
in planning the outline of the trip to best please everyone.
>>
>> Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ
>>
>> arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List
>> tp://forums.matronics.com
>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
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| From: | trevannan <roger(at)trevannan.wanadoo.co.uk> |
| Subject: | Last of the Summer Wine |
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Message Received: Aug 14 2015, 07:32 PM
From: davidjoyce(at)doctors.org.uk
Cc:
Subject: Europa-List: Last of the Summer Wine
The LSOW Trip is due to start on 13 September and now is the time I
would like to hear from anyone contemplating joining it, even if you are
not totally sure of being able to commit. Once we have an idea of
participants we can all join in planning the outline of the trip to best
please everyone.
Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ
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| From: | trevannan <roger(at)trevannan.wanadoo.co.uk> |
| Subject: | Last of the Summer Wine |
Hi David
I now have a prop ,a trailer and am ready to fly. All I need is a piece of paper
from LLA then I am a pilot again.
Your trailer is still at Rogers , thank you some much for your patience and help.
Roger
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Message Received: Aug 14 2015, 07:32 PM
From: davidjoyce(at)doctors.org.uk
Cc:
Subject: Europa-List: Last of the Summer Wine
The LSOW Trip is due to start on 13 September and now is the time I
would like to hear from anyone contemplating joining it, even if you are
not totally sure of being able to commit. Once we have an idea of
participants we can all join in planning the outline of the trip to best
please everyone.
Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Last of the Summer Wine |
| From: | James Kelly <europajimkelly(at)gmail.com> |
Hello David,
Many thanks for the offer of assistance it's a great
help. I'm based at Tatenhill.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Best wishes
Jim
On Saturday, August 15, 2015, wrote:
> Jim, Fine. Experience shouldn't be an issue - it is a deliberately relaxed
> trip, not aiming to cover thousands of miles in a day and you will have any
> help you need with things like flight plans, customs, route planning. Where
> are you based? We can no doubt arrange for one of our number to meet up and
> fly the leg over the channel in loose formation if that is something you
> would find helpful.
>
> Regards, David
>
>
> On 2015-08-14 21:47, James Kelly wrote:
>
> Hi David,
> I would like to do the LSOW but my experience is very basic
> and limited. I'd like to be included in the briefings and maybe I'll pluck
> up the courage.
>
> Jim
> G-BWEG
>
> On Friday, August 14, 2015, > wrote:
>
>> The LSOW Trip is due to start on 13 September and now is the time I would
>> like to hear from anyone contemplating joining it, even if you are not
>> totally sure of being able to commit. Once we have an idea of participants
>> we can all join in planning the outline of the trip to best please everyone.
>>
>> Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *
>>
>> arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List
>> tp://forums.matronics.com <http://forums.matronics.com>
>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>
>> *
>>
>> *
>
> ttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List>
> ics.com <http://ics.com>
> .matronics.com/contribution <http://matronics.com/contribution>
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
> *
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Last of the Summer Wine |
| From: | david park <dpark748(at)icloud.com> |
James i am based at Sleap if you meed any help.
Dave G-LDVO
Sent from my iPhone
> On 15 Aug 2015, at 09:25, James Kelly wrote:
>
> Hello David,
> Many thanks for the offer of assistance it's a great h
elp. I'm based at Tatenhill.
> I look forward to hearing from you.
> Best wishes
> Jim
>
>> On Saturday, August 15, 2015, wrote:
>> Jim, Fine. Experience shouldn't be an issue - it is a deliberately relaxe
d trip, not aiming to cover thousands of miles in a day and you will have an
y help you need with things like flight plans, customs, route planning. Wher
e are you based? We can no doubt arrange for one of our number to meet up an
d fly the leg over the channel in loose formation if that is something you w
ould find helpful.
>>
>> Regards, David
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 2015-08-14 21:47, James Kelly wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi David,
>>>
>>> I would like to do the LSOW but my experience is very bas
ic and limited. I'd like to be included in the briefings and maybe I'll pluc
k up the courage.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>> G-BWEG
>>>
>>>> On Friday, August 14, 2015, wrote:
>>>> The LSOW Trip is due to start on 13 September and now is the time I wou
ld like to hear from anyone contemplating joining it, even if you are not to
tally sure of being able to commit. Once we have an idea of participants we c
an all join in planning the outline of the trip to best please everyone.
>>>>
>>>> Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List
>>>> tp://forums.matronics.com
>>>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List
>>> ics.com
>>> .matronics.com/contribution
>>
>>
>> arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List
>> tp://forums.matronics.com
>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>
>
>
>
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>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Last of the Summer Wine |
| From: | James Kelly <europajimkelly(at)gmail.com> |
Good on ya Dave, Let me know when it's convenient for you to come to
Tatenhill or me to come to Sleap.
Cheers & best wishes
Jim
On Saturday, August 15, 2015, david park wrote:
> James i am based at Sleap if you meed any help.
> Dave G-LDVO
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On 15 Aug 2015, at 09:25, James Kelly > wrote:
>
> Hello David,
> Many thanks for the offer of assistance it's a great
> help. I'm based at Tatenhill.
> I look forward to hearing from you.
> Best wishes
> Jim
>
> On Saturday, August 15, 2015, > wrote:
>
>> Jim, Fine. Experience shouldn't be an issue - it is a deliberately
>> relaxed trip, not aiming to cover thousands of miles in a day and you will
>> have any help you need with things like flight plans, customs, route
>> planning. Where are you based? We can no doubt arrange for one of our
>> number to meet up and fly the leg over the channel in loose formation if
>> that is something you would find helpful.
>>
>> Regards, David
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2015-08-14 21:47, James Kelly wrote:
>>
>> Hi David,
>> I would like to do the LSOW but my experience is very
>> basic and limited. I'd like to be included in the briefings and maybe I'll
>> pluck up the courage.
>>
>> Jim
>> G-BWEG
>>
>> On Friday, August 14, 2015, wrote:
>>
>>> The LSOW Trip is due to start on 13 September and now is the time I
>>> would like to hear from anyone contemplating joining it, even if you are
>>> not totally sure of being able to commit. Once we have an idea of
>>> participants we can all join in planning the outline of the trip to best
>>> please everyone.
>>>
>>> Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *
>>>
>>> arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List
>>> tp://forums.matronics.com <http://forums.matronics.com>
>>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>>
>>> *
>>>
>>> *
>>
>> ttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List>
>> ics.com <http://ics.com>
>> .matronics.com/contribution <http://matronics.com/contribution>
>>
>> *
>>
>> *
>>
>> arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List
>> tp://forums.matronics.com <http://forums.matronics.com>
>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>
>> *
>>
>>
>
> *
>
>
> *
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Pete Lawless <pete(at)lawless.info> |
| Subject: | Any user feed back of f.u.n.k.e avionics? |
Hi All
Just thinking of an upgrade to my Microair radio and old Mode C King.
Anyone using funke? They appear to be better value than the Trig or
Becker but I do not know anyone who uses one.
Comments on user experience please. In particular is the built in
intercom any good.
Thanks
Pete
G-RMAC Classic #109
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Any user feed back of f.u.n.k.e avionics? |
| From: | Bryan Nortje <bryannortje(at)gmail.com> |
Hi Pete
I have fitted both the OLED transceiver and the mode S units in my previous build
G-TORO and now fitting them into my recently bought Europa G-CFKZ. IMHO they
are fantastic units and if installed properly with good antennae will prove
to be great additions to your plane. The built in intercom is brilliant and coupled
with good headsets beats anything else hands down.
The frequency dual watch facility on the Radio is brilliant. The transponder is
also ADS-B ready so supplying a GPS feed and you then visible to any aircraft
with TCAS and a further help to ATC units whom don't have secondary radar.
If you are a dab hand at electrics i would suggest doing the connector yourself
and avoid the pre-made Loom available. I say this purely due to the loom available,
(well the one supplied by LX Avionics) is rather heavy and you can buy
a plastic connector housing for the Radio from Maplins which is lighter than the
one supplied with the radio.
Call Mike Pettican from LX Avionics and he will sort a good deal for you. Usually
they have units in stock and if you local to the South Northants area you can
collect.
If you need any further info, don't hesitate to ask.
Regards
Bryan
Sent from my iPad
> On 15 Aug 2015, at 07:18, Pete Lawless wrote:
>
>
> Hi All
>
> Just thinking of an upgrade to my Microair radio and old Mode C King.
>
> Anyone using funke? They appear to be better value than the Trig or Becker but
I do not know anyone who uses one.
>
> Comments on user experience please. In particular is the built in intercom any
good.
>
> Thanks
>
> Pete
>
> G-RMAC Classic #109
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Any user feed back of f.u.n.k.e avionics? |
| From: | YKI <ykibuess(at)bluewin.ch> |
Pete, I have a funke TRT800H transponder in my Europa, so far few but good experiences.
As for the COM I prefered the Dittel KRT2: excellent unit with a reasonable
price, low power consumption, dual watch, there exists an adapter for the
Microair COM for an easy upgrade. Very good experiences so far. Have a look
at there website for more information.
Regards Alfred
Von meinem iPad gesendet
> Am 15.08.2015 um 14:18 schrieb Pete Lawless :
>
>
> Hi All
>
> Just thinking of an upgrade to my Microair radio and old Mode C King.
>
> Anyone using funke? They appear to be better value than the Trig or Becker but
I do not know anyone who uses one.
>
> Comments on user experience please. In particular is the built in intercom any
good.
>
> Thanks
>
> Pete
>
> G-RMAC Classic #109
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Peter Zutrauen <peterz(at)zutrasoft.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Any user feed back of f.u.n.k.e avionics? |
as I posted earlier fwiw, I find the Trig set performs terrifically - even
in my *very* harsh vibration environment.\
Cheers,
Pete
A239 (still a pile of parts)
C-IPWZ
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On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 10:11 AM, YKI wrote:
>
> Pete, I have a funke TRT800H transponder in my Europa, so far few but good
> experiences. As for the COM I prefered the Dittel KRT2: excellent unit with
> a reasonable price, low power consumption, dual watch, there exists an
> adapter for the Microair COM for an easy upgrade. Very good experiences so
> far. Have a look at there website for more information.
> Regards Alfred
>
> Von meinem iPad gesendet
>
> > Am 15.08.2015 um 14:18 schrieb Pete Lawless :
> >
> >
> > Hi All
> >
> > Just thinking of an upgrade to my Microair radio and old Mode C King.
> >
> > Anyone using funke? They appear to be better value than the Trig or
> Becker but I do not know anyone who uses one.
> >
> > Comments on user experience please. In particular is the built in
> intercom any good.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Pete
> >
> > G-RMAC Classic #109
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | david park <dpark748(at)icloud.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Last of the Summer Wine |
I can nip over sometime will contact you when I can, Send me you phone
number.
Should be in next couple of weeks.
Dave
On 15 Aug 2015, at 13:01, James Kelly wrote:
> Good on ya Dave, Let me know when it's convenient for you to come
to Tatenhill or me to come to Sleap.
> Cheers & best wishes
> Jim
>
> On Saturday, August 15, 2015, david park wrote:
> James i am based at Sleap if you meed any help.
> Dave G-LDVO
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On 15 Aug 2015, at 09:25, James Kelly
wrote:
>
>> Hello David,
>> Many thanks for the offer of assistance it's a
great help. I'm based at Tatenhill.
>> I look forward to hearing from you.
>> Best wishes
>> Jim
>>
>> On Saturday, August 15, 2015, wrote:
>> Jim, Fine. Experience shouldn't be an issue - it is a deliberately
relaxed trip, not aiming to cover thousands of miles in a day and you
will have any help you need with things like flight plans, customs,
route planning. Where are you based? We can no doubt arrange for one of
our number to meet up and fly the leg over the channel in loose
formation if that is something you would find helpful.
>>
>> Regards, David
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2015-08-14 21:47, James Kelly wrote:
>>
>>> Hi David,
>>>
>>> I would like to do the LSOW but my experience is very
basic and limited. I'd like to be included in the briefings and maybe
I'll pluck up the courage.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>> G-BWEG
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 14, 2015, wrote:
>>> The LSOW Trip is due to start on 13 September and now is the time I
would like to hear from anyone contemplating joining it, even if you are
not totally sure of being able to commit. Once we have an idea of
participants we can all join in planning the outline of the trip to best
please everyone.
>>>
>>> Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List
>>> tp://forums.matronics.com
>>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List
>>> ics.com
>>> .matronics.com/contribution
>>>
>>
>>
>> arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List
>> tp://forums.matronics.com
>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Last of the Summer Wine |
| From: | James Kelly <europajimkelly(at)gmail.com> |
Contact details
07531157210 home 01782 461946.
Thanks Dave
Jim
On Saturday, August 15, 2015, david park wrote:
> I can nip over sometime will contact you when I can, Send me you phone
> number.
> Should be in next couple of weeks.
> Dave
>
> On 15 Aug 2015, at 13:01, James Kelly > wrote:
>
> Good on ya Dave, Let me know when it's convenient for you to come to
> Tatenhill or me to come to Sleap.
> Cheers & best wishes
> Jim
>
> On Saturday, August 15, 2015, david park > wrote:
>
>> James i am based at Sleap if you meed any help.
>> Dave G-LDVO
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>> On 15 Aug 2015, at 09:25, James Kelly wrote:
>>
>> Hello David,
>> Many thanks for the offer of assistance it's a great
>> help. I'm based at Tatenhill.
>> I look forward to hearing from you.
>> Best wishes
>> Jim
>>
>> On Saturday, August 15, 2015, wrote:
>>
>>> Jim, Fine. Experience shouldn't be an issue - it is a deliberately
>>> relaxed trip, not aiming to cover thousands of miles in a day and you will
>>> have any help you need with things like flight plans, customs, route
>>> planning. Where are you based? We can no doubt arrange for one of our
>>> number to meet up and fly the leg over the channel in loose formation if
>>> that is something you would find helpful.
>>>
>>> Regards, David
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2015-08-14 21:47, James Kelly wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi David,
>>> I would like to do the LSOW but my experience is very
>>> basic and limited. I'd like to be included in the briefings and maybe I'll
>>> pluck up the courage.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>> G-BWEG
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 14, 2015, wrote:
>>>
>>>> The LSOW Trip is due to start on 13 September and now is the time I
>>>> would like to hear from anyone contemplating joining it, even if you are
>>>> not totally sure of being able to commit. Once we have an idea of
>>>> participants we can all join in planning the outline of the trip to best
>>>> please everyone.
>>>>
>>>> Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *
>>>>
>>>> arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List
>>>> tp://forums.matronics.com <http://forums.matronics.com/>
>>>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>>>
>>>> *
>>>>
>>>> *
>>>
>>> ttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List>
>>> ics.com <http://ics.com/>
>>> .matronics.com/contribution <http://matronics.com/contribution>
>>>
>>> *
>>>
>>> *
>>>
>>> arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List
>>> tp://forums.matronics.com <http://forums.matronics.com/>
>>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>>
>>> *
>>>
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> href="http://forums.matronics.com/ ">http://forums.matronics.com
> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution ">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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| Subject: | Arplast, closing down and PV50 support |
| From: | "italianjon" <jon.catilli(at)gmail.com> |
Hi fellow PV50 owners (and owners of other Arplast props)
Has anyone else heard that apparently Arplast are closing down due to product litigation
against them.
I am going to try to contact them for support on my prop next week. However a view
of their website has an Adeiu Arplast press release on it. I bounced it off
a French speaker I know on another forum and apparently it is very direct in
its statements towards the French appeals court, that allegedly over ruled product
laws and aviation expert witnesses in the award of unspecified compensations.
Obviously only their side of the story is displayed.
Therefore I am wondering if anyone has more details on this? To bring balanced
information to light. But also are there any places I could go for advice and
support on the prop.
I have seemingly excessive play in the tips of 2 blades. The third has a small
amount of play but isn't concerning. The documentation available on the PV50 is
pitiful and therefore I have no way of knowing the play limits allowed, or if
anything can be done to address the play.
Therefore what I am looking for is as follows:-
1) play limits allowed on each blade
2) can anything be done by me to improve the play
3) any advice on getting the pv50 overhauled if required.
Thanks
Jon
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446016#446016
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Pete Lawless <pete(at)lawless.info> |
| Subject: | Re: Any user feed back of f.u.n.k.e avionics? |
Thanks for the feed back funke sounds interesting but so does the Dittel
which I had not heard of before. The Dittel is also a much more
sensible price at sub 800 in the UK. Trig was what I expected.
Regards
Pete
On 15/08/15 14:47, Bryan Nortje wrote:
>
> Hi Pete
>
> I have fitted both the OLED transceiver and the mode S units in my previous build
G-TORO and now fitting them into my recently bought Europa G-CFKZ. IMHO they
are fantastic units and if installed properly with good antennae will prove
to be great additions to your plane. The built in intercom is brilliant and
coupled with good headsets beats anything else hands down.
>
> The frequency dual watch facility on the Radio is brilliant. The transponder
is also ADS-B ready so supplying a GPS feed and you then visible to any aircraft
with TCAS and a further help to ATC units whom don't have secondary radar.
>
> If you are a dab hand at electrics i would suggest doing the connector yourself
and avoid the pre-made Loom available. I say this purely due to the loom available,
(well the one supplied by LX Avionics) is rather heavy and you can buy
a plastic connector housing for the Radio from Maplins which is lighter than
the one supplied with the radio.
>
> Call Mike Pettican from LX Avionics and he will sort a good deal for you. Usually
they have units in stock and if you local to the South Northants area you
can collect.
>
> If you need any further info, don't hesitate to ask.
>
> Regards
> Bryan
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On 15 Aug 2015, at 07:18, Pete Lawless wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi All
>>
>> Just thinking of an upgrade to my Microair radio and old Mode C King.
>>
>> Anyone using funke? They appear to be better value than the Trig or Becker but
I do not know anyone who uses one.
>>
>> Comments on user experience please. In particular is the built in intercom
any good.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Pete
>>
>> G-RMAC Classic #109
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Idea Innovations" <idea.innovations(at)live.com> |
All
Thank You for your comments and pointing out the dangers of using the Europa for
a training aircraft. I had a chance to fly a Europa once and it was an absolute
joy to fly.
Our thought was to give the students who built the aircraft a chance to fly in
it and also handle the aircraft in the air. There was no intent to actually do
any real flight training with the students.
Thank You all for pointing the dangers that await us in that area.
Just as a side note for everyone, Sonex Aircraft, LLC holds an FAA Letter of Deviation
Authority (LODA) allowing it to provide type-specific transition flight
training for the Sonex line of aircraft. The LODA authorizes Sonex Aircraft,
LLC to provide training for pilots building, buying or considering a Sonex design.
The training is for aircraft familiarization and transition purposes only.
Student applicants must already hold a pilot certificate with appropriate category
and class rating, as well as any required endorsements. So there is a
way to give training in a homebuilt aircraft but it is a very special case.
For those of you who have completed their Europa's and no longer need their tools we would greatly appreciate it, if you would consider possibly donating your tools to the Camden Youth Aviation Program. We are a registered 501(c)3 so your donation would be tax deductible. More information about our program can be found on our Facebook page or our website www.camdenyap.org
We have aircraft A189. I have included some photos of the aircraft.
Thank You again
Ira
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Giving The Youth Of Camden And Southern New Jersey The Dream Of Flight
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| Subject: | Re: Any user feed back of f.u.n.k.e avionics? |
| From: | "Roland" <schmidtroland(at)web.de> |
Hi!
I also replaced my Microair through a Dittel KRT2 and am satisfied with it - price
is reasonable, Dual watch and very lightweight. Some criticize the handling
but I guess this is very individual.
Regards
Roland
PH-ZTI
XS Trigear 914
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| From: | houlihan tim <thoulihan(at)blueyonder.co.uk> |
| Subject: | Re: Any user feed back of f.u.n.k.e avionics? |
Hi.
I replaced my Microair 760 with a Trig TT21 the flexibility that design has for
installation is really useful , I already had a Trig transponder so I suppose
matching the units was part of the decision . One thing about Trig is that their
support is excellent in fact I would say even better than that. They upgraded my
transponder to the current version to enable the ADS-b co-ordinates to be
displayed, even though ADS-b had always been fully functional. They offered to
do it even though it was not absolutely necessary and they turned it round
within the day without charge. Very good service.
regards
Tim
G-BZTH
>
> On 17 August 2015 at 09:14 Roland wrote:
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> Hi!
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> I also replaced my Microair through a Dittel KRT2 and am satisfied with it
> - price is reasonable, Dual watch and very lightweight. Some criticize the
> handling but I guess this is very individual.
>
> Regards
> Roland
> PH-ZTI
> XS Trigear 914
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| From: | Kevin Challis <cakeykev(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Any user feed back of f.u.n.k.e avionics? |
Hi
I am waiting for the Trig Nav/Com.
I already have a Trig transponder mode S. I blew it up when testing complete
ly my fault I managed to allow a live wire to touch the box. Trig fixed it f
ree of charge even though my fault. No hassle and first class service.
Kevin Challis
G ODJG
> On 17 Aug 2015, at 10:05, houlihan tim wrote:
>
> Hi.
>
> I replaced my Microair 760 with a Trig TT21 the flexibility that design ha
s for installation is really useful , I already had a Trig transponder so I s
uppose matching the units was part of the decision . One thing about Trig is
that their support is excellent in fact I would say even better than that. T
hey upgraded my transponder to the current version to enable the ADS-b co-or
dinates to be displayed, even though ADS-b had always been fully functional.
They offered to do it even though it was not absolutely necessary and they t
urned it round within the day without charge. Very good service.
>
> regards
>
> Tim
>
> G-BZTH
>
>> On 17 August 2015 at 09:14 Roland wrote:
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>> Hi!
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>> I also replaced my Microair through a Dittel KRT2 and am satisfied with i
t - price is reasonable, Dual watch and very lightweight. Some criticize the
handling but I guess this is very individual.
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>> Regards
>> Roland
>> PH-ZTI
>> XS Trigear 914
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| Subject: | Re: Eastern US Fly-ins |
| From: | "h&jeuropa" <butcher43(at)att.net> |
Attached is a form for the Rough River Fly In. This year they are offering discounted
advance sales for the banquet and raffle. Even if you can't attend, raffle
tickets are half price - the grand prize is a drone with camera and you
need not be present to win!
Jim & Heather
N241BW
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| From: | "Peter Jeffers" <pjeffers(at)talktalk.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Any user feed back of f.u.n.k.e avionics? |
I too have TRIG units fitted now for 2 years with faultless and
excellent performance. One big plus for Trig is their second to none
service. Initially when I fitted the Mode S transponder I had
difficulties which eventually turned out to be my aerial connections.
Trig sent me a replacement unit as an elimination ploy, free of charge ,
24 hr delivery.
Regardless of price I rank TRIG units and the company very highly.
Pete
PS and they speak English (albeit with a Scottish accent)
From: owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kevin
Challis
Sent: 17 August 2015 10:46
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Any user feed back of f.u.n.k.e avionics?
Hi
I am waiting for the Trig Nav/Com.
I already have a Trig transponder mode S. I blew it up when testing
completely my fault I managed to allow a live wire to touch the box.
Trig fixed it free of charge even though my fault. No hassle and first
class service.
Kevin Challis
G ODJG
On 17 Aug 2015, at 10:05, houlihan tim
wrote:
Hi.
I replaced my Microair 760 with a Trig TT21 the flexibility that design
has for installation is really useful , I already had a Trig transponder
so I suppose matching the units was part of the decision . One thing
about Trig is that their support is excellent in fact I would say even
better than that. They upgraded my transponder to the current version to
enable the ADS-b co-ordinates to be displayed, even though ADS-b had
always been fully functional. They offered to do it even though it was
not absolutely necessary and they turned it round within the day without
charge. Very good service.
regards
Tim
G-BZTH
On 17 August 2015 at 09:14 Roland wrote:
Hi!
I also replaced my Microair through a Dittel KRT2 and am satisfied with
it - price is reasonable, Dual watch and very lightweight. Some
criticize the handling but I guess this is very individual.
Regards
Roland
PH-ZTI
XS Trigear 914
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| Subject: | Re: Any user feed back of f.u.n.k.e avionics? |
| From: | "graeme bird" <graeme(at)gdbmk.co.uk> |
good service from the ATR883 and the TRT800H including intercom and dual watch
(which is really useful).
Also had them in my C42.
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Graeme Bird
G-UMPY
Mono Classic/XS FFW 912S/Woodcomp 3000/3W
Newby: 180 hours 4 years on the Mono
g(at)gdbmk.co.uk
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| Subject: | Re: Any user feed back of f.u.n.k.e avionics? |
| From: | "Rick Moss" <Rkwmoss(at)gmail.com> |
I used to have a Trig TT21 xpdr fitted next to my Funke ATR833; in bright sunlight
I couldn't read the radio screen, but the transponder was perfectly visible.
I now have a TY91 radio and am totally happy with it.
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| From: | Pete Lawless <pete(at)lawless.info> |
| Subject: | Re: Any user feed back of f.u.n.k.e avionics? |
Thanks again one and all. Lots of useful input - now just need to make
a decision!
Pete
On 17/08/15 20:40, Rick Moss wrote:
>
> I used to have a Trig TT21 xpdr fitted next to my Funke ATR833; in bright sunlight
I couldn't read the radio screen, but the transponder was perfectly visible.
I now have a TY91 radio and am totally happy with it.
>
>
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| From: | "rampil" <ira.rampil(at)gmail.com> |
I certainly wish you and your program the very best of luck!
I believe kids programs like yours, ours, here in Georgia, and the program
at Flabob in California have a significant positive impact on their participants.
In our own little way, we are keeping alive the excitement of aviation in the
next generation (who would mostly just rather play video games).
Here is a link to our most recent newsletter:
http://www.peachstateaero.com/files/1414/3895/4893/AUGUST_2015.pdf
Funny, BTW that you mentioned Sonex. The EAA donated a Sonex kit
to our program this spring. I was tasked with supervising the building of
the included AeroVee 2.1 engine (read souped-up series 1 volkswagen) from
parts. Lets just say that there is a fascinating contrast between the AeroVee
and a Rotax ;)
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Ira N224XS
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| From: | "Peter Jeffers" <pjeffers(at)talktalk.net> |
| Subject: | Arplast, closing down and PV50 support |
Therefore what I am looking for is as follows:-
1) play limits allowed on each blade.
2) can anything be done by me to improve the play.
No Play limits were ever published by ARPLAST. However, unlike many other
VP props, this play will only disappear when the propeller is rotating due
centripetal force. ( It is a bit the same on large fan turbine engines(eg
RB211) which when rotating slowly in the wind make a terrible clattering
noise as the fan blades slop loosely in their mounts.) In other words it is
absolutely normal for there to be a fair amount of play at the tips of an
ARPLAST. In my experience with this prop the most likely cause of
'excessive' play is corrosion of the root thrust bearings. This can only be
checked by dismantling the prop casing. This is also the only way that the
working parts of the prop can be checked and lubricated. I ordinarily do
this on an annual basis. As far as I am aware ARPLAST never issued any
maintenance instructions with their props. All I will say is that ARPLAST
product support is virtually nonexistent.
3) any advice on getting the pv50 overhauled if required.
I am not sure where you are, although I assume from your address that you
are in Italy. Unfortunately if this is the case I cannot help with any
suggestions as I do not know your local regulations or procedures. What I
can say, is that all that I know about them, is what I have learned by
working on them and learning the hard and sometimes expensive way.
The ARPLAST PV50 prop is basically a good piece of equipment when it is
properly set up and maintained and will provide reasonable serviceability.
It is however difficult to set up accurately and maintenance is largely down
to you with virtually no guidance from the manufacturer. Though I am
unaware of the demise of the company I cannot say that it surprises me if
they are in trouble. By the way if you do manage to get them to answer the
phone you MUST speak French.
Pete
,
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of italianjon
Sent: 16 August 2015 07:14
Subject: Europa-List: Arplast, closing down and PV50 support
Hi fellow PV50 owners (and owners of other Arplast props)
Has anyone else heard that apparently Arplast are closing down due to
product litigation against them.
I am going to try to contact them for support on my prop next week. However
a view of their website has an Adeiu Arplast press release on it. I bounced
it off a French speaker I know on another forum and apparently it is very
direct in its statements towards the French appeals court, that allegedly
over ruled product laws and aviation expert witnesses in the award of
unspecified compensations. Obviously only their side of the story is
displayed.
Therefore I am wondering if anyone has more details on this? To bring
balanced information to light. But also are there any places I could go for
advice and support on the prop.
I have seemingly excessive play in the tips of 2 blades. The third has a
small amount of play but isn't concerning. The documentation available on
the PV50 is pitiful and therefore I have no way of knowing the play limits
allowed, or if anything can be done to address the play.
Therefore what I am looking for is as follows:-
1) play limits allowed on each blade
2) can anything be done by me to improve the play
3) any advice on getting the pv50 overhauled if required.
Thanks
Jon
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| From: | "Bud Yerly" <budyerly(at)msn.com> |
Will,
I=99m attaching photos here and will post to your off line email
if you can=99t see them here...
Again, in the US we can modify from the manual so consult your
country=99s rules.
This works really well for cooling and maintenance.
First photo in the album is the firewall installed with Aircraft Spruce
Firewall 2000 kit (P/N 05-00950) material. This can be smooth,
depending on the customers patience. See the 2nd to last photo.
Next is the back side of the plywood panel, fuel and brake install
details, then more firewall close ups and interior tunnel details...
I also make a brake support bracket for those not wanting to cut the
tunnel top. I made this for 12AY when I went from Kart brakes to
Matco=99s. I=99m happy (which is rare).
The 2nd to last photo is of a all stainless steel cover I did over my
Aircraft Spruce Firewall material. Overkill but pretty and no slivers
as it is all installed with smooth fasteners. Time consuming.
I simply make the cutout for the mono per the manual and then expand it
a bit in the aft as I=99m lazy and like more room for inserting
the springs.
Install the gear frame per the manual and drill it in but don=99t
bolt it in yet.
Remove the frame and cut a piece of ply to allow the gear frame to be
clear, and lean it toward the front to allow room for throttle and
brakes.
Flox the corners and glass the front side of the ply with two layers of
glass. I glass the back side also for a very strong bulkhead, but glass
on the front is all you need.
I also plan a lower access hole to assure maintenance access.
For those who desire to do the reinforcing and cut the top of the tunnel
off and make an access panel read on:
I install my brakes on a C shaped support and fit my Matco or Jamar
brakes, parking brake, conduits, fuel lines, filters and all that stuff
before I put on the top.
For any install:
Install the rudder pedals and plan your rudder cables. You can see I
sheath mine in nylaflow tube
I then remove it and fit in my firewall panels sides then top, finally
the back piece. Use the tube of Fire seal 2000 supplied in the Aircraft
Spruce kit.
Being a purest I normally cut the pieces 1/2 inch over sized, then trim
off the back aluminum and fireproofing material, and fold over the
stainless over the ugly end. Very neat.
We normally line the entire front side with .016 stainless to make a
neat fuel proof seal around the leading edge.
I leave a lip of 1/2 inch around the bottom of the cutout to be able to
seal the firewall material at the bottom and make a nice clean belly
exit.
Install your rub blocks and press on.
Regards,
Bud Yerly
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Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Cooling
Will,
I'll dig up some photos when I get back next week. Pretty easy to do
with the engine off.
If you want to leave the firewall alone, consider making the exit of the
cowl wider as in Cooling 101.
Bud Yerly,
Custom Flight Creations, Inc.
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On Aug 11, 2015 6:58 PM, William Daniell
wrote:
Thanks again Bud,
The thing is that I have the engine installed and the firewall done per
the manual. Id be loath to undo it all however if thats what it
takes.....
Do you have an instruction of how to put the firewall behind the nose
gear frame? Or a picture at least. I can imagine roughly how it might
be done...im thinking putting in a bulkhead and lining it and the
tunnel with firewall blanket. I assume the bottom is not covered
allowing the air to exhaust.
Thanks
Will
On Aug 11, 2015 4:33 PM, "Bud Yerly" wrote:
Will,
Only the sealing of the radiators and the opening up of the exit area
by moving the firewall are necessary, provided you increase climb speed
on long duration climbs. 12AY and most others still cool quite well
with just sealing the radiator gaps, leaving the cowl stock, and moving
the firewall to behind the nose wheel.
Mono's can use our flat firewall to increase cooling exit air.
If you have long ground taxi, must do max performance angles of climb
in 30C or hotter weather, is engine plenum ducting necessary.
Regards,
Bud Yerly
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On Aug 11, 2015 9:17 AM, William Daniell
wrote:
Buds instructions are pretty comprehensive as usual
I shall move the round intake holes up to level with the spinner as
suggested.
I would very much like to see any pics of cooling shrouds/ducts. the
aluminium shrouds on Bud's website look like a lot of work.
thanks
Will
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| Subject: | Borrow a Monowheel Trailer |
| From: | "italianjon" <jon.catilli(at)gmail.com> |
Hi All,
I am not sure if I will need it for aircraft recovery, but things seem to be going
that way...
Just in case, does anyone in Germany; Benelux; or Eastern France have a Monowheel
trailer that I could borrow, for up to 2 or 3 weeks?
Regards
Jon
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| Subject: | Re: Borrow a Monowheel Trailer |
| From: | "tennant" <barrington.tennant(at)gmail.com> |
Hi Jon,
I have one that you can have for a while.
I am in Herne, Germany. That is between Dsseldorf and Dortmund.
What's your problem??
Barry
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Barry Tennant
D-EHBT
At EDLM - Germany
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| Subject: | Re: Borrow a Monowheel Trailer |
| From: | "tennant" <barrington.tennant(at)gmail.com> |
Hi Jon,
I have one that you can have for a while.
I am in Herne, Germany. That is between Dsseldorf and Dortmund.
What's your problem??
Barry
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Barry Tennant
D-EHBT
At EDLM - Germany
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| From: | "Steven Pitt" <steven.pitt2(at)ntlworld.com> |
| Subject: | LAA RAlly Sywell |
At the Light Aircraft Association Rally, Sywell 4th to 6th September 2015
As a member of the Europa Club you are cordially invited to a Europa Club
Members Seminar to be held:
Friday 4th September 2015
2pm - 3.30pm
LAA Rally
Sywell Aerodrome
In the Club Room
The Seminar will include an update on Europa Aircraft past, present and
future, and time will be available for Q&As.
Light Refreshments will be served.
Please note that this is a Members ONLY event, so if you are not a Member
now is a chance to join.
RSVP by email to steven.pitt2(at)ntlworld.com (in order that enough
refreshments are available)
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| From: | Dpy01 <alanb(at)dpy01.co.uk> |
| Subject: | Re: LAA RAlly Sywell |
Not going to be able to make it this year.
Alan Burrill
Sent from my iPad
> On 26 Aug 2015, at 01:56, Steven Pitt wrote:
>
>
>
> At the Light Aircraft Association Rally, Sywell 4th to 6th September 2015
>
>
>
> As a member of the Europa Club you are cordially invited to a Europa Club Members
Seminar to be held:
>
>
>
> Friday 4th September 2015
>
> 2pm - 3.30pm
>
> LAA Rally
> Sywell Aerodrome
>
> In the Club Room
>
>
>
>
>
> The Seminar will include an update on Europa Aircraft past, present and future,
and time will be available for Q&As.
>
>
>
> Light Refreshments will be served.
>
>
>
> Please note that this is a Members ONLY event, so if you are not a Member now
is a chance to join.
>
>
>
> RSVP by email to steven.pitt2(at)ntlworld.com (in order that enough refreshments
are available)
>
>
>
>
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| From: | "Steven Pitt" <steven.pitt2(at)ntlworld.com> |
| Subject: | Re: LAA RAlly Sywell |
Alan,
Sorry we will not be seeing you this year.
Best wishes,
Steve
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From: "Dpy01" <alanb(at)dpy01.co.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 3:27 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: LAA RAlly Sywell
>
> Not going to be able to make it this year.
>
> Alan Burrill
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On 26 Aug 2015, at 01:56, Steven Pitt wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> At the Light Aircraft Association Rally, Sywell 4th to 6th September 2015
>>
>>
>>
>> As a member of the Europa Club you are cordially invited to a Europa Club
>> Members Seminar to be held:
>>
>>
>>
>> Friday 4th September 2015
>>
>> 2pm - 3.30pm
>>
>> LAA Rally
>> Sywell Aerodrome
>>
>> In the Club Room
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The Seminar will include an update on Europa Aircraft past, present and
>> future, and time will be available for Q&As.
>>
>>
>>
>> Light Refreshments will be served.
>>
>>
>>
>> Please note that this is a Members ONLY event, so if you are not a Member
>> now is a chance to join.
>>
>>
>>
>> RSVP by email to steven.pitt2(at)ntlworld.com (in order that enough
>> refreshments are available)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| From: | Alan Twigg <alan.twigg775(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: LAA RAlly Sywell |
Steve, I am working Friday so will not be able to attend. I will be there Saturday
and I am considering staying, is there a Europa BBQ?
Alan
Sent from my iPad
> On 25 Aug 2015, at 21:26, Steven Pitt wrote:
>
>
>
> At the Light Aircraft Association Rally, Sywell 4th to 6th September 2015
>
>
>
> As a member of the Europa Club you are cordially invited to a Europa Club Members
Seminar to be held:
>
>
>
> Friday 4th September 2015
>
> 2pm - 3.30pm
>
> LAA Rally
> Sywell Aerodrome
>
> In the Club Room
>
>
>
>
>
> The Seminar will include an update on Europa Aircraft past, present and future,
and time will be available for Q&As.
>
>
>
> Light Refreshments will be served.
>
>
>
> Please note that this is a Members ONLY event, so if you are not a Member now
is a chance to join.
>
>
>
> RSVP by email to steven.pitt2(at)ntlworld.com (in order that enough refreshments
are available)
>
>
>
>
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| From: | "Steven Pitt" <steven.pitt2(at)ntlworld.com> |
| Subject: | Re: LAA RAlly Sywell |
Nothing planned at the moment.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Twigg" <alan.twigg775(at)gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 7:30 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: LAA RAlly Sywell
>
> Steve, I am working Friday so will not be able to attend. I will be there
> Saturday and I am considering staying, is there a Europa BBQ?
> Alan
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On 25 Aug 2015, at 21:26, Steven Pitt wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> At the Light Aircraft Association Rally, Sywell 4th to 6th September 2015
>>
>>
>>
>> As a member of the Europa Club you are cordially invited to a Europa Club
>> Members Seminar to be held:
>>
>>
>>
>> Friday 4th September 2015
>>
>> 2pm - 3.30pm
>>
>> LAA Rally
>> Sywell Aerodrome
>>
>> In the Club Room
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The Seminar will include an update on Europa Aircraft past, present and
>> future, and time will be available for Q&As.
>>
>>
>>
>> Light Refreshments will be served.
>>
>>
>>
>> Please note that this is a Members ONLY event, so if you are not a Member
>> now is a chance to join.
>>
>>
>>
>> RSVP by email to steven.pitt2(at)ntlworld.com (in order that enough
>> refreshments are available)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| From: | "Bob Harrison" <ptag.dev(at)tiscali.co.uk> |
| Subject: | LAA RAlly Sywell |
Hi! Steve,
Sorry but .....
I expect to be going to the Texel event and for some reason their dates have
clashed with the LAA rally this year. I will be making representations to
them about future date selection but I guess that will mean some
communication between the two authorities concerned.
Best regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG ( just back from Zell Am See, Prague, Szombathley,
Mollis and Birrfeld. Shit weather for the Austrian Rally and the Swiss Rally
too! But 35 deg in Prague and hit 42 in Hungary !
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steven Pitt
Sent: 25 August 2015 21:26
Subject: Europa-List: LAA RAlly Sywell
At the Light Aircraft Association Rally, Sywell 4th to 6th September 2015
As a member of the Europa Club you are cordially invited to a Europa Club
Members Seminar to be held:
Friday 4th September 2015
2pm - 3.30pm
LAA Rally
Sywell Aerodrome
In the Club Room
The Seminar will include an update on Europa Aircraft past, present and
future, and time will be available for Q&As.
Light Refreshments will be served.
Please note that this is a Members ONLY event, so if you are not a Member
now is a chance to join.
RSVP by email to steven.pitt2(at)ntlworld.com (in order that enough
refreshments are available)
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: LAA RAlly Sywell |
| From: | "Roland" <schmidtroland(at)web.de> |
Hi Bob,
looking forward to meeting you again at Texel. I will stay for one night (camping),
but don't know yet which one.
Regards
Roland
PH-ZTI
XS TG 914
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| Subject: | Re: LAA RAlly Sywell |
| From: | david park <dpark748(at)icloud.com> |
Steve.
Missed Texel last year am trying this year hoping to get to Sywell on Sunday?
Dave
Sent from my iPhone
> On 26 Aug 2015, at 08:58, Steven Pitt wrote:
>
>
> Nothing planned at the moment.
> Steve
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Twigg" <alan.twigg775(at)gmail.com>
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 7:30 AM
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: LAA RAlly Sywell
>
>
>>
>> Steve, I am working Friday so will not be able to attend. I will be there Saturday
and I am considering staying, is there a Europa BBQ?
>> Alan
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On 25 Aug 2015, at 21:26, Steven Pitt wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> At the Light Aircraft Association Rally, Sywell 4th to 6th September 2015
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As a member of the Europa Club you are cordially invited to a Europa Club Members
Seminar to be held:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Friday 4th September 2015
>>>
>>> 2pm - 3.30pm
>>>
>>> LAA Rally
>>> Sywell Aerodrome
>>>
>>> In the Club Room
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The Seminar will include an update on Europa Aircraft past, present and future,
and time will be available for Q&As.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Light Refreshments will be served.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please note that this is a Members ONLY event, so if you are not a Member now
is a chance to join.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> RSVP by email to steven.pitt2(at)ntlworld.com (in order that enough refreshments
are available)
>
>
>
>
>
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| From: | davidjoyce(at)doctors.org.uk |
| Subject: | Flying scouts sat 12 September |
Dear All, The Gloster Strut & the Europa Club have for many years
supported the annual Scout camp at Defford, just north of Gloucester. It
is in two weekends time and we aim to give flights to about 35 scouts on
the Saturday to complete their flying badges. They have all done lots of
preparatory work on all aspects of flying and are enormously keen. For
those of us who have helped before it has proved an enormously rewarding
experience, quite apart from the fantastic pancakes they make for your
lunch! We could still do with one or two more volunteers to help with
the flying. No age limitations. 250 hrs total and good currency
required. If you feel you can help please contact me for further details
Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | trevannan <roger(at)trevannan.wanadoo.co.uk> |
| Subject: | Flying scouts sat 12 September |
Hi David
I am worried I am waiting for MOD approval, test pilot approval then I have to
test and permit my plane. In the meantime we have Sywell, I have a sinking feeling
that the Scouts and LOSW are looking a lost cause for me
Roger
=======================================
Message Received: Aug 29 2015, 03:53 PM
From: davidjoyce(at)doctors.org.uk
Cc:
Subject: Europa-List: Flying scouts sat 12 September
Dear All, The Gloster Strut & the Europa Club have for many years
supported the annual Scout camp at Defford, just north of Gloucester. It
is in two weekends time and we aim to give flights to about 35 scouts on
the Saturday to complete their flying badges. They have all done lots of
preparatory work on all aspects of flying and are enormously keen. For
those of us who have helped before it has proved an enormously rewarding
experience, quite apart from the fantastic pancakes they make for your
lunch! We could still do with one or two more volunteers to help with
the flying. No age limitations. 250 hrs total and good currency
required. If you feel you can help please contact me for further details
Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Flying scouts sat 12 September |
| From: | James Kelly <europajimkelly(at)gmail.com> |
Hi David,
I was a sixer in the Cubs and a patrol leader in the
scouts I'd like to assist but don't have the hours demanded.
Best wishes
Jim
On Saturday, August 29, 2015, wrote:
> Dear All, The Gloster Strut & the Europa Club have for many years
> supported the annual Scout camp at Defford, just north of Gloucester. It is
> in two weekends time and we aim to give flights to about 35 scouts on the
> Saturday to complete their flying badges. They have all done lots of
> preparatory work on all aspects of flying and are enormously keen. For
> those of us who have helped before it has proved an enormously rewarding
> experience, quite apart from the fantastic pancakes they make for your
> lunch! We could still do with one or two more volunteers to help with the
> flying. No age limitations. 250 hrs total and good currency required. If
> you feel you can help please contact me for further details
>
> Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ
>
>
> *
>
>
> *
>
>
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| Subject: | Mogas from the garage. |
| From: | "Alan Carter" <alancarteresq(at)onetel.net> |
Hello All.
This is just for UK Pilots.
Read in the LAA magazine to check the Ethanol content displayed at the garage petrol
pump.
Just the Octane rating is displayed, and the staff don,t know what Ethanol is.
Is it a legal requirement to display the Ethanol content on the forecourt pump,
and should the manager have the details of what is in his storage tanks. ????????????
Alan
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| Subject: | Electrics on a Europa. |
| From: | "Alan Carter" <alancarteresq(at)onetel.net> |
Hello ALL.
I have a problem,My charge rate is barley maintaining my battery.
Engine running 2000 rpms , MASTER SWITCH ON, All CBs pulled out, even number 1
fuel pump CB momentary pulled as its a 914 engine, voltmeter reads 12.1 volts,
so all the electrics are off as far as I know,?
Turn the MASTER SWITCH OFF, voltmeter jumps to 12.9 volts.
So something is happening when switching the Master on and off jumping for 12 to
12.9.
Any Comments as to what's the problem.
Alan
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| Subject: | Re: Mogas from the garage. |
| From: | Pete Lawless <pete(at)lawless.info> |
Hi Alan
I asked the same question the other day in my local Shell garage - they
could not even tell me the BS number despite searching about in the
office paperwork!
This would suggest it is not a requirement or if it is the local trading
standards people don't realize it.
Regards
Pete
On 30/08/15 17:37, Alan Carter wrote:
>
> Hello All.
> This is just for UK Pilots.
> Read in the LAA magazine to check the Ethanol content displayed at the garage
petrol pump.
> Just the Octane rating is displayed, and the staff don,t know what Ethanol is.
> Is it a legal requirement to display the Ethanol content on the forecourt pump,
and should the manager have the details of what is in his storage tanks. ????????????
>
> Alan
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446563#446563
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Mogas from the garage. |
| From: | "Alan Carter" <alancarteresq(at)onetel.net> |
Hi Peter.
Is it or , is it not a legal requirement .
Lets hope the LAA Legal team know, maybe they should be phoning the trading standards
department.
Alan
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| Subject: | Re: Mogas from the garage. |
| From: | Pete Lawless <pete(at)lawless.info> |
Alan
I was very surprised that the garage could not tell me what the BS
number was for the fuel they were selling. I had expected to find that
on the pump.
Pete
On 30/08/15 18:21, Alan Carter wrote:
>
> Hi Peter.
> Is it or , is it not a legal requirement .
> Lets hope the LAA Legal team know, maybe they should be phoning the trading standards
department.
>
> Alan
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446567#446567
>
>
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| From: | "Brian Davies" <brian.davies(at)clara.co.uk> |
| Subject: | Mogas from the garage. |
Alan, Although the revised version of BS EN228 (2012) allows up to 10%
ethanol in fuel the maximum currently being used is 5%. This is technically
described as E5 fuel but I have never seen it described as such in the UK.
Most suppliers use a brand name. If you buy either 95 RON or 97 RON (
much preferred for R912ULS) you will be OK. I have not looked at all pumps
but most have a label on them saying "EN228".. Most suppliers are reluctant
to tell the public how much ethanol is in any particular batch of fuel. The
AA say that there is no requirement to label fuels using up to 5% ethanol
but it is legal requirement to label E10 (10% ethanol) - when it is
introduced at some time in the future. So, no label = up to 5% ethanol.
If you are unsure you should carry out the water test as described in TL
2.26 which should give you an estimate of how much ethanol is in the fuel.
Personally I have never got this test to work reliably but...
I hope this helps. These are the reasons it has taken so long to get Mogas
with ethanol approved for our use.
Regards
Brian Davies
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alan Carter
Sent: 30 August 2015 17:38
Subject: Europa-List: Mogas from the garage.
-->
Hello All.
This is just for UK Pilots.
Read in the LAA magazine to check the Ethanol content displayed at the
garage petrol pump.
Just the Octane rating is displayed, and the staff don,t know what Ethanol
is.
Is it a legal requirement to display the Ethanol content on the forecourt
pump, and should the manager have the details of what is in his storage
tanks. ????????????
Alan
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446563#446563
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| From: | Wladimir Kummer <wladimirkummer(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Two Europa XS Motorglider builders in Brazil |
Hello all,
I and a friend are building a couple of Europa MG kits in Brazil south. Maybe 2-3
year to completion.
Best
Wladimir Kummer
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Robert Borger <rlborger(at)mac.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Two Europa XS Motorglider builders in Brazil |
Wladimir,
Welcome to the Europa List. Best wishes on your construction projects. Don't
hesitate to ask for assistance. This is a group of fellow Europa builders ready
to provide help. Keep in touch with progress reports. Check into EuropaOwners.org
where you can see other Europa projects and post your own project photos
and commentary. Be sure to become involved with the Europa Club, theeuropacoub.org
for additional build resources.
Best regards,
Robert Borger, President
Geowhiziks & Doodlebugging, Inc.
Certified Petroleum Geophysicist AAPG#101
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208-5331
(C) 817-992-1117
Sent from my iPad
> On Aug 30, 2015, at 13:55, Wladimir Kummer wrote:
>
>
> Hello all,
>
> I and a friend are building a couple of Europa MG kits in Brazil south. Maybe
2-3 year to completion.
>
> Best
>
> Wladimir Kummer
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Mogas from the garage. |
| From: | "Alan Carter" <alancarteresq(at)onetel.net> |
Hi Brian.
Many thanks for the information, I have heard that 97 has no Ethanol,
Some time ago I did a test with a jar and some water, and did notice a difference
between the two, it appeared to confirm the 97 was Ethanol
free.
Regards
Alan
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| Subject: | Re: Electrics on a Europa. |
| From: | "pestar" <peter(at)reivernet.com> |
At 2000rpm on my Rotax 914 there is insufficient output from the alternator to charge the battery. I use a Low Voltage Warning and Aux Battery Management Module from http://periheliondesign.com and the warning led kicks out well above 2000rpm.
Would not worry.
Cheers Peter
--------
Peter Armstrong
Auckland, New Zealand
DynAero MCR-4S (Do not shoot me :) ).
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| Subject: | Re: Electrics on a Europa. |
| From: | Robert Borger <rlborger(at)mac.com> |
Alan,
I doubt there=92s a problem. My alternator doesn=92t come on line till
I advance to about 2500 RPM. Drops off at about 2200 RPM when I retard
the throttle. As long as your low voltage light goes out well before
you reach cruise RPM and stays out during cruise I=92d say you=92re OK.
Blue skies & tailwinds,
Bob Borger
Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop (75 hrs).
Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208-5331
Cel: 817-992-1117
rlborger(at)mac.com
> On Aug 30, 2015, at 10:55 AM, Alan Carter
wrote:
>
>
> Hello ALL.
> I have a problem,My charge rate is barley maintaining my battery.
> Engine running 2000 rpms , MASTER SWITCH ON, All CBs pulled out, even
number 1 fuel pump CB momentary pulled as its a 914 engine, voltmeter
reads 12.1 volts, so all the electrics are off as far as I know,?
>
> Turn the MASTER SWITCH OFF, voltmeter jumps to 12.9 volts.
> So something is happening when switching the Master on and off jumping
for 12 to 12.9.
>
> Any Comments as to what's the problem.
>
> Alan
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | GRAHAM SINGLETON <grahamsingleton(at)btinternet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Two Europa XS Motorglider builders in Brazil |
Hello Wladimir,Good to see you here, WelcomeGraham
On Sunday, 30 August 2015, 21:15, Robert Borger wro
te:
Wladimir,
Welcome to the Europa List.=C2- Best wishes on your construction projects
.=C2- Don't hesitate to ask for assistance.=C2- This is a group of fell
ow Europa builders ready to provide help.=C2- Keep in touch with progress
reports.=C2- Check into EuropaOwners.org where you can see other Europa
projects and post your own project photos and commentary.=C2- Be sure to
become involved with the Europa Club, theeuropacoub.org for additional buil
d resources.
Best regards,
Robert Borger, President
Geowhiziks & Doodlebugging, Inc.
Certified Petroleum Geophysicist AAPG#101
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208-5331
(C) 817-992-1117
Sent from my iPad
> On Aug 30, 2015, at 13:55, Wladimir Kummer wro
te:
>
com>
>
> Hello all,
>
> I and a friend are building a couple of Europa MG kits in Brazil south. M
aybe 2-3 year to completion.
>
> Best
>
> Wladimir Kummer
>
>
>
>
>
>
S -
-
=C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin.
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| Subject: | Re: LAA RAlly Sywell |
| From: | "goff" <goffmoore(at)aol.com> |
Steve,
See you Friday.
Goff
G-CHOX
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| From: | davidjoyce(at)doctors.org.uk |
| Subject: | Flying scouts sat 12 September |
Roger, Pity but understandable. David
On 2015-08-29 22:10, trevannan wrote:
>
> Hi David
> I am worried I am waiting for MOD approval, test pilot approval then I have to
test and permit my plane. In the meantime we have Sywell, I have a sinking feeling
that the Scouts and LOSW are looking a lost cause for me
> Roger
>
> =======================================
> Message Received: Aug 29 2015, 03:53 PM
> From: davidjoyce(at)doctors.org.uk
> To: "europa list"
> Cc:
> Subject: Europa-List: Flying scouts sat 12 September
>
> Dear All, The Gloster Strut & the Europa Club have for many years
> supported the annual Scout camp at Defford, just north of Gloucester. It
> is in two weekends time and we aim to give flights to about 35 scouts on
> the Saturday to complete their flying badges. They have all done lots of
> preparatory work on all aspects of flying and are enormously keen. For
> those of us who have helped before it has proved an enormously rewarding
> experience, quite apart from the fantastic pancakes they make for your
> lunch! We could still do with one or two more volunteers to help with
> the flying. No age limitations. 250 hrs total and good currency
> required. If you feel you can help please contact me for further details
>
> Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ
>
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| Subject: | Re: Electrics on a Europa. |
| From: | "Alan Carter" <alancarteresq(at)onetel.net> |
Hi , Bob, Peter.
I have no low voltage warning light just a voltmeter,
The problem is that in cruise my with all my panel working, that's the T/Co- odinator,
TCU, FlyDat Engine inst,, 1 Fuel Pump, 1 Strobe Lt,
Skyforce GPS, Transponder, Radio,
I get about 12.1 volts showing,
Pull all the CBs and you get a little more showing.
Now if you switch the MASTER SWITCH OFF, it fly's up to 13.1 volts.
I take it now that the Alternator has taken over the supply to the fuel pump
provided its turned ON.
So with the Master switch off and 13+ volts coming out it does not look like being
the Alternator or Rectifier, wear is the power going ?????
12v is not enough to maintain a full battery
Have bought a new battery ,but the old one is as good as the new one, so it not
the battery.
Alan
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| From: | Roger Sheridan <rogersheridan(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Petition Request |
Hi,
If anyone wants to support the pilotaware collision avoidance system, please consider
signing up to the following petition.
The page should be self explanatory.
https://www.change.org/p/mr-urs-rothacher-flarm-chairman-petition-against-flarm-decision-to-encrypt-the-communication-protocol?recruiter=97467060&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=share_email_responsive&utm_content=pm_checklist_email%3Achecklist
Thanks,
Roger
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| Subject: | Re: LAA RAlly Sywell |
| From: | "flyingphil2" <flyingphil627-europastuff(at)yahoo.co.uk> |
Hi Steve,
I'll be working on Friday afternoon and so will miss the Seminar. I'm not even
sure I'll make it to the rally but that's another story.
Is there any way that this Seminar can be recorded (either in full or in bulletin
form) and provided to Europa Club members? I'm thinking that possible options
would be someone with some modern tech could record this and put it on a restricted
YouTube channel for instance. Or at worst case, an email with the salient
points could be circulated maybe?
It would be good for Europa Club members to get the latest news without having
to wait to read about it in the next Flyer.
Regards,
Phil
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| Subject: | Re: LAA RAlly Sywell |
| From: | "Dave Disney" <davedisney(at)yahoo.co.uk> |
Hi all,
I'll be there and will attend the seminar, sadly not flying in this year to the
fuel tank leak that I'm still trying to resolve without installing a new tank.
Dave
G-RJWX
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| Subject: | Re: Electrics on a Europa. |
| From: | "pestar" <peter(at)reivernet.com> |
Not knowing your plane or its schematics, if you are concerned borrow a spare Ducati
regulator and swap it out and see if anything changes. The Ducati regulators
Rotax uses can be a bit flakey. I do not use one, instead I use a Schicke
GR6 as it is more robust than the Ducati.
Cheers Peter
--------
Peter Armstrong
Auckland, New Zealand
DynAero MCR-4S (Do not shoot me :) ).
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| Subject: | Re: Electrics on a Europa. |
| From: | "Alan Carter" <alancarteresq(at)onetel.net> |
Hi. Peter.
Many thanks for your reply, "Borrow" not sure this word is still in the English
Dictionary I live in England every thing is chained up or bolted down, you have
a lot more going for you in New Zealand, like this country was 40 yeas ago
.
I have looked into this and can buy a new one for about 87 maybe I should do that,
how ever I have checked it with a voltmeter.
To me its like when you switch the Master Switch on, the power goes the earth somewhere
along the line.????
Alan
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| Subject: | Texel fly-in has been cancelled |
| From: | "Roland" <schmidtroland(at)web.de> |
Friends,
this information for those who planned to attend Texel next weekend and perhaps
didn't register:
http://us7.campaign-archive1.com/?u=41d5fbd0e0010c9fba7b66210&id=dd506380ea&e=febbe445ce
Regards
Roland
PH-ZTI
XS TG 914
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| From: | "Bob Harrison" <ptag.dev(at)tiscali.co.uk> |
| Subject: | Texel fly-in has been cancelled |
Thanks Roland, They have circulated . I am well pissed off , since I believe
it is a knee jerk reaction. ......time will tell.
may see you at Sywell then ? Boring ....Boring .....!
Regards
BOB H ....G-PTAG
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roland
Sent: 02 September 2015 12:47
Subject: Europa-List: Texel fly-in has been cancelled
Friends,
this information for those who planned to attend Texel next weekend and
perhaps didn't register:
http://us7.campaign-archive1.com/?u=41d5fbd0e0010c9fba7b66210&id=dd506380ea&
e=febbe445ce
Regards
Roland
PH-ZTI
XS TG 914
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| Subject: | Re: Texel fly-in has been cancelled |
| From: | "Roland" <schmidtroland(at)web.de> |
Hi Bob!
Won't make it to Sywell either unfortunately.
Maybe the Europa Club AGM next year (btw. where have you been this year?) or just
Texel fly-in 2016 (hopefully not colliding with Sywell again then).
Regards
Roland
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| From: | "Steven Pitt" <steven.pitt2(at)ntlworld.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Texel fly-in has been cancelled |
Bob,
Good to know you find our company boring!!!! ;-)
I hope the weather predictions are not a bad portent for the Rally.
Filling my car to the gunnels with Club material - hope it is a good
weekend.
See you all there?
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Harrison" <ptag.dev(at)tiscali.co.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 1:12 PM
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Texel fly-in has been cancelled
>
> Thanks Roland, They have circulated . I am well pissed off , since I
> believe
> it is a knee jerk reaction. ......time will tell.
> may see you at Sywell then ? Boring ....Boring .....!
> Regards
> BOB H ....G-PTAG
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roland
> Sent: 02 September 2015 12:47
> To: europa-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Europa-List: Texel fly-in has been cancelled
>
>
> Friends,
>
> this information for those who planned to attend Texel next weekend and
> perhaps didn't register:
>
> http://us7.campaign-archive1.com/?u=41d5fbd0e0010c9fba7b66210&id=dd506380ea&
> e=febbe445ce
>
> Regards
> Roland
> PH-ZTI
> XS TG 914
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446678#446678
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Electrics on a Europa. |
| From: | "h&jeuropa" <butcher43(at)att.net> |
Alan,
To figure out what is wrong, you must have the wiring diagram for your specific
airplane. There is a basic wiring diagram in the build manual that may be a
good starting point for you. Once you have the diagram, troubleshooting is not
difficult.
It sounds like your Rotax dynamo and regulator/rectifier are working correctly.
As others have said, the Rotax system does not put out much voltage at 2000
rpm. Our 914 puts out about 13.4 volts at 5000 rpm.
Get the diagram figured out and then see what is loading down the system.
Jim & Heather
N241BW
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| Subject: | Weight of Warpdrive tapered blade propeller? |
| From: | "JohnFrance" <77alembert(at)gmail.com> |
Hello to All,
Does anyone happen to know the weight of the Warpdrive 62" tapered blade propeller,
XS spinner, it's support and all the necessary hardware?
I seem to remember seeing 6.7 kg for the propeller on it's own but I have been
unable to find the information again now that I need it
The reason for this is to change the prop for an E Props, Durandal ground adjustable
model that is supposed to give high takeoff rpm and then not over speed
when in the cruise with their "clever" blade design.
If I get authorisation to go ahead from the French DGAC I will of course give feedback
on performance compared to the Warpdrive on my Rotax 912 UL
Regards
John
--------
Europa mono Nr 192
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| Subject: | Weight of Warpdrive tapered blade propeller? |
| From: | "JohnFrance" <77alembert(at)gmail.com> |
Hello to All,
Does anyone happen to know the weight of the Warpdrive 62" tapered blade propeller,
XS spinner, it's support and all the necessary hardware?
I seem to remember seeing 6.7 kg for the propeller on it's own but I have been
unable to find the information again now that I need it
The reason for this is to change the prop for an E Props, Durandal ground adjustable
model that is supposed to give high takeoff rpm and then not over speed
when in the cruise with their "clever" blade design.
If I get authorisation to go ahead from the French DGAC I will of course give feedback
on performance compared to the Warpdrive on my Rotax 912 UL
Regards
John
--------
Europa mono Nr 192
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| Subject: | Re: Weight of Warpdrive tapered blade propeller? |
| From: | AUVRAY Michel <mau11(at)orange.fr> |
Hello John je t'envoie les panneaux du tableau de bord cot gauche et
droit, en dxf je n'ai plus solidworks c'est trop cher, sauf si je
trouvais une version dplombe... je peux te les donner aussi en DWG si
tu veux. Je terappelles utilises du 2017 dural 2 mm. c'est disponible
chez ANFI seyssinet
Pour la bute de roulette de queue je recherche et te donnerai des
nouvelles.
MA
Le 03/09/2015 14:47, JohnFrance a crit :
>
> Hello to All,
> Does anyone happen to know the weight of the Warpdrive 62" tapered blade propeller,
XS spinner, it's support and all the necessary hardware?
>
> I seem to remember seeing 6.7 kg for the propeller on it's own but I have been
unable to find the information again now that I need it
>
> The reason for this is to change the prop for an E Props, Durandal ground adjustable
model that is supposed to give high takeoff rpm and then not over speed
when in the cruise with their "clever" blade design.
>
> If I get authorisation to go ahead from the French DGAC I will of course give
feedback on performance compared to the Warpdrive on my Rotax 912 UL
> Regards
>
> John
>
> --------
> Europa mono Nr 192
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446722#446722
>
>
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