Glasair-Archive.digest.vol-ac
November 25, 2002 - September 09, 2006
as described above, likely a little after December 1. The Flight Bag and
the CDROM will be shipped together in the same Giant white padded envelope!
Again, I want to thank Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore for providing
these awesome Flight Bags to support the List Fund Raiser. Andy has gone
way beyond the call of duty with regard to his support of the Lists this
year and to show your gratitude I would ask that you have a look at his web
site and great media offerings. You'll find some excellent deals on some
very useful material. http://www.buildersbooks.com
And finally, I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a
Contribution so far this year! Your generosity and kindness is greatly
appreciated. If you've been putting off making a Contribution, now's a
great time show your appreciation in plenty of time to make it onto this
year's List of Contributors AND get your free gift with qualifying
Contribution!!!
List Contribution Site:
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Thank you!
Matt Dralle
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Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
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From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Subject: | All New List FAQs! |
Dear Listers,
I got to looking at the Email List FAQs (Frequently Asked Questions) today
and realized that they where miserably out of date. I spent a wad of time
today completely revising them and adding in documentation on all of the
many new features such as the List Browse and Photoshare. Many of the
little-known features are documented in there now, too, so even if you're a
seasoned List veteran, you might want to give it a read. Never know what
you might discover.
At the bottom of this message in the Trailer you will find a new link item
called "List FAQ" with a URL for this specific List. Just click on it and
print it out or read it online.
Don't forget that November is the List Fund Raiser month! The "2002 List
of Contributors" is just days away and I know you'll want to make sure your
name is on it!! Please make your Contribution today to support the
continued operation of these List Services!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
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From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Dear Listers,
There are only a few days left until the November List of Contributors. I
thought I'd take another opportunity to pass along some of the really nice
things people have been saying recently about the Lists and how much they
mean to them.
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What does the List mean to you? Here's what some of your fellow
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Subject: | Re: Glasair-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 11/26/02 |
this sucks
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From: | "Bruce Gray" <Bruce(at)glasair.org> |
Subject: | Re: Glasair-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 11/26/02 |
Why?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
ROGG(at)aol.com
Subject: Glasair-List: Re: Glasair-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 11/26/02
this sucks
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I am looking for a wing kit preferably with wing extentions.
For a repair of a damaged plane. Will consider the whole kit if the price is right.
Tony
Derry, NH
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From: | "Bruce Gray" <Bruce(at)glasair.org> |
Try,
www.glasair.org
www.newglasair.com
www.trade-a-plane.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tony
Subject: Glasair-List: Wings IIS RG
I am looking for a wing kit preferably with wing extentions.
For a repair of a damaged plane. Will consider the whole kit if the
price is right.
Tony
Derry, NH
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From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Subject: | New Gift Selection Added - List Fund Raiser! [Please Read] |
Dear Listers,
I've just added a great new last minute Gift Selection to this year's List
Fund Raiser line up! I have a very limited number of sets of a wonderful
collection of Aircraft Technical books by Jeppesen entitled "The A&P
Technical Series Book Set". This is a great opportunity to make a generous
Contribution to support the Lists and walk away with a great set of
reference manuals at the same time.
This set of books normally retails for over $117 PLUS shipping, but you can
pick up your set AND make this year's List Contribution for a cool C-note -
that's a $100, by the way! :-) I'm thinking "Great Christmas Gift"...
There's more information on the books and making your Contribution at the
List Contribution web site:
Email List Contribution Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution
We're coming close to the official end of this year's List Fund Raiser and
if you haven't yet made your Contribution, there's still time get your name
on that List of Contributors! The percentage of contributors is kind of
low this year but I'm hoping many of you are just holding out until the
last minute!
I want to thank each and everyone of you that has already made a donation
to support the continued operation and upgrade of these List Services. As
I've mentioned in the past, running these Lists is a labor of love for me
and the hours upon hours of code development, system maintenance, and
upgrades are MY Contribution to support this great resource for Builders
and Flyer's alike. Won't your take a minute and make YOUR Contribution today?
I want to thank you for your support both during the Fund Raiser but also
throughout the year in the form of kind words and moral support. A nice
comment from a List member about how much the lists have helped them is
always a sure way to brighten my day!
Thank you to all!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Subject: | [PLEASE READ!] "What is my Contribution used for?" |
Dear Listers,
Some have asked, "What is my Contribution used for?", and this is a valid
question. Here are just a few examples of what your direct List support
enables. It provides for the expensive, business-class, high-speed
Internet connection used on the List, insuring maximum performance and
minimal contention when accessing List services. It pays for the regular
system hardware and software upgrades enabling the highest performance
possible for services such as the Archive Search Engine and List
Browser. It pays for 14+ years worth of online archive data available for
instant random access. And, it offsets the many hours spent writing,
developing, and maintaining the custom applications that power this List
Service such as the List Browse, Search Engine, and Photoshare.
But most importantly, your List Contribution enables a forum where you and
your peers can communicate freely in an environment that is free from
moderation, censorship, advertising, commercialism, SPAM, and computer
viruses. How many places on the Internet can you make all those statements
about these days? I will venture to say - next to none...
It is YOUR CONTRIBUTION that directly enables these many desirable aspects
of this most valuable List service. Please support it today with your List
Contribution. Its the best investment you can make in your Sport - BAR NONE!
Email List Contribution Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
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From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Dear Listers,
This is the last "official" day of the List Fund Raiser. Based on previous
year's percentages of Lister's making a Contribution, this year we are
nearly 40% behind the normal... And I thought all those great gifts would
eke the percentage up past the average a little. Oh well. Maybe people
just don't really mind the flashing banner ads for Viagra, and popups for
X10 minicams...
There's still plenty of time to get your name of the List of
Contributors. I'll probably publish the LOC on Monday night after I
process the checks from the Post Office.
I do want to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution so
far this year. Your support is greatly appreciated and is what makes the
Lists possible.
How to support your Lists this month: http://www.matronics.com/contributions
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
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From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Subject: | All New List Digest Format!! |
Dear Listers,
I've just finished up some awesome code that will completely change your
thinking about how email Digests should work and look! Yeah, I'm kind of
proud of it, that is true... :-)
What you'll be getting in the new List Digest message is the
following: The main message will contain the new text-based index I
introduced a few weeks back. But here's where things get
different... Instead of simply including all of the day's posts in line
within the message, there will now be included two enclosures - one with a
HTML encoded version of the Digests, and another with the usual text-only
version of the Digests.
I think you're really going to like the new HTML enclosure of the
Digests. All of the Indexes at the top are now hyperlinked to the actual
posts and there are hyperlinks at the top of each post that will:
o Take you back to the Index
o Take you to the next post
o Take you to the previous post
o Allow you to respond to the LIST regarding the message
o Allow you to respond directly to the POSTER regarding the message
You'll have to check it out to appreciate the full goodness of the new
format! :-)
The text-only version is basically exactly the same data that has been
normally sent in line within the message.
You'll also note that the filenames of the enclosures are such that they
can be conveniently placed in a personal "archive" directory for future
reference.
Hope you enjoy the new Digest format!!!
Oh, and don't forget about the Fund Raiser! :-)
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
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From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Subject: | New, NEW List Digest Format... |
Dear Listers,
Okay, so I woke up this morning to an email box full of hate-mail about the
new List Digest format. I thought it was cool, but I guess not... Still,
it seemed like too much code to just throw out, so I've modified things a
little and I'm hoping everyone will be happy with the new, NEW
arrangement. Here's how it works now:
o The HTML and TXT enclosures aren't sent in the Digest any longer.
o URL Links to the HTML and TEXT versions of the day's Digests
will be found at the top of the digest email.
o The new Digest Index will be found at the top of the digest email
following the URL Links.
o The full digest text will then be found in the email as before.
o All of the previous Digests will now be available on line. The
URL for the main digest page is:
http://www.matronics.com/digest
From here, you can drill into the specific List Digest of interest.
o Both the HTML and TXT versions of the Digests can be found here.
o The List Message Trailer will contain a Link directly to the given
o Right now there's only one Digest shown, but each day there will
be another. They will be sorted with the newest at the top.
Left-hand column is the HTML version, right-hand column the TXT
version.
A couple people also complained that some messages in the HTML version were
just one long line that went off to the right forever and they hated
that. Come to think of it, this is also an issue in the Search Engine,
List Browser, and Archive Browser. Some email programs don't included hard
Returns at regular intervals and that's what causes this. I wrote a
program tonight that will automatically chop these long lines into 78
characters or less and wrap the rest of the line. After tonight's Archive
transfer, all of the Searching and Browsing tools shouldn't have the
problem any longer either. Woo hoo!
So, back to the new Digest format. What people are going to see in the
new, NEW Digest is a bit of verbiage at the top of the email describing the
URL links to the HTML and TXT on-line versions, followed by the Links,
followed by the day's Index, followed by the day's messages just as
before. Lines longer than 78 characters will also be automatically wrapped
onto the next line.
Hopefully this will be a more pleasing arrangement for everyone. Sorry to
get everybody so stirred up over the format change!
The List of Contributors is coming out tomorrow night... Still time to
make that Contribution! http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
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Subject: | New Glasair Owner |
From: | mooney37v(at)juno.com |
Hello All,
I'm the proud new owner of N467DK, a 1995 Glasair I RG. Flew it back from Phoenix
last Friday - WOW what performance. Admittedly I did have some tailwind but
I never saw less than 200 KTS GS and sometimes as high as 230 KTS. Even with
3 stops (had to make a couple of side trips), total flying time was 7.3 (Hobbs)
hours - that's 162 KTS average speed including stops!
By my calculations, I was doing right at 180 KTAS at 11,500'M using 2500 RPM and
WOT (about 20" MP) and 8.5 GPH - this blows the socks off my Mooney's (previous
aircraft) performance.
Appreciate any tips/suggestions/help the list can provide - specifically, I'm looking
for builers/owners in the St. Louis, MO area and a good composite finish/paint
shop in the area.
Happy Holiays,
Reggie Smith
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Subject: | Glassair Kit for sale |
Glassair II FT. 70 % complete with 0 320 engine O timed. New Sensenich Metal
prop New spinner , bulkhead, prop bolts, New exhaust, seat belts, strobes,
wheels tires, both wing tips, big rudder, everything to finish excep a little
epoxi and a little cloth, instrument panel cut, and a few instruments.
$20,500. takes it all. Trying to help a retired Branniff airline pilot that
flew B52 sell it he is computer challenged.
806 798 8384
Terry E. Cole
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Subject: | Re: New Glasair Owner |
What is a knot
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Subject: | Re: New Glasair Owner |
an old sailors term. They used to throw a rope into the water and count
seconds. The rope had knots tied in it. So many knots in so many seconds
translated to nautical miles per hour. It translates to 1.135 MPH. All
aviation charts and nautical charts are calibrated in Knots.
VFJAY(at)AOL.COM
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Subject: | Re: New Glasair Owner |
I had a Glasair 1 t/d for 2 years. Loved the Hell out of it.
Add:
Gap seals
Electric flaps if you don't already have them and Electric trim. (now you
have a place to put your instrument charts)
Upgrade the fuel tank vent system
Some sort of fuel totalizer (gauges on low dihedral wings suck)
Some sort of autopilot, so you can get charts in the back without rolling
inverted.
Electronic ignition
If you carry oxygen, make a mount on the back of the seat. (Tellyou why
later)
Climb-out at 120 kts to keep the engine cool. 140 in Summer. Get a couple of
hours in before you do hard IFR. It can be done but it is a handful.
Fly the heck out of it. Just toooo fun.
Learn how to slow it down. Learn how Not to overcontrol it. Roll the heck
out of it.
Vic Jaugilas
Glasair 1 t/d 88LW
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Subject: | Re: Glassair Kit for sale |
I wish I had the extra funds to take it off his hands.Keep the Email down and
the phone from ringing, but I have 3, thats right, three Lycoming IO 540
engines in the quest bedroom waiting to put together. Haven't decited which I
will put in front of the RV10 when it arrives next year. Anyway the RV6 is
flying great.
Terry E. Cole
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From: | "Cy Galley" <cgalley(at)qcbc.org> |
Subject: | Re: New Glasair Owner |
One Knot is a rate of speed necessary to travel one nautical mile in one
hour. One nautical mile is one minute of distance measured on the equator.
----- Original Message -----
From: <VFJAY(at)aol.com>
Subject: Re: Glasair-List: New Glasair Owner
>
> an old sailors term. They used to throw a rope into the water and count
> seconds. The rope had knots tied in it. So many knots in so many seconds
> translated to nautical miles per hour. It translates to 1.135 MPH. All
> aviation charts and nautical charts are calibrated in Knots.
>
> VFJAY(at)AOL.COM
>
>
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Subject: | Re: New Glasair Owner |
Oh, than that must mean you own a new boat.
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Subject: | Re: New Glasair Owner |
I only can relate to miles per hour. You just scared me out of owning an
airplane. Why are all the second world war planes calabrated in miles per
hour. Why did they convert to knots when Americans know only miles per hour.
It would seem to me that more people would become interested in aviation if
you went back to miles per hour. I bet if I pointed at a car traveling down a
road and I asked you how many knots it was traveling at you couldn't quickly
say. I guess its a macho thing. No wonder aviation is dying if you talk knots
all the time.
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Subject: | Re: New Glasair Owner |
The very active glasair website is www.glasair.org.
Jim Oberst
----- Original Message -----
From: <mooney37v(at)juno.com>
Subject: Glasair-List: New Glasair Owner
>
> Hello All,
>
> I'm the proud new owner of N467DK, a 1995 Glasair I RG. Flew it back from
Phoenix last Friday - WOW what performance. Admittedly I did have some
tailwind but I never saw less than 200 KTS GS and sometimes as high as 230
KTS. Even with 3 stops (had to make a couple of side trips), total flying
time was 7.3 (Hobbs) hours - that's 162 KTS average speed including stops!
>
> By my calculations, I was doing right at 180 KTAS at 11,500'M using 2500
RPM and WOT (about 20" MP) and 8.5 GPH - this blows the socks off my
Mooney's (previous aircraft) performance.
>
> Appreciate any tips/suggestions/help the list can provide - specifically,
I'm looking for builers/owners in the St. Louis, MO area and a good
composite finish/paint shop in the area.
>
> Happy Holiays,
> Reggie Smith
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Glassair Kit for sale |
I now have some pictures about 21 of them. would you like to see them?
Terry E. Cole
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From: | "Gordon Robertson" <res0rlvx(at)verizon.net> |
, ,
Subject: | Brand new rotary engine and redrive for sale |
Folks,
Here is a great opportunity for anyone wishing to power his/her homebuilt
with a Rotary engine.
Due to changed circumstances, I have to sell my RX-7 engine that I was
preparing for my RV8. This is a 0 hour engine, complete with Real World
Solutions redrive and electronic control box, modified with high compression
rotors, ceramic apex seals, street porting and many other mods to achieve
180 hp. The engine and redrive are brand new.
I have invested over $7,400 on this engine, and am letting it go for $6,500.
I am in the San Jose, CA area, but can ship the engine anywhere.
You can see the details at http://mysite.verizon.net/res0rlvx Contact me at
g.robertson3(at)verizon.net, or (408) 778 2246
Gordon Robertson
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Subject: | Re: Glassair Kit for sale |
From: | mooney37v(at)juno.com |
Terry,
What were you referring to here? Pictures of ...
Reggie Smith
From: TColeE(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Glasair-List: Glassair Kit for sale
I now have some pictures about 21 of them. would you like to see them?
Terry E. Cole
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Subject: | Re: Glassair Kit for sale |
Reggie There were pictures of the Glassair kit that is forsale by one of my
friends. He asked me to help him sell it
Terry E. Cole
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From: | BrownScottA(at)aol.com |
rv6-list(at)matronics.com, rv7-list(at)matronics.com, rv8-list(at)matronics.com,
rv9-list(at)matronics.com, kr-list(at)matronics.com
Hey guys,
I have a garmin 250xl brand new, never been installed for sale. Store price
is $2795, I will let it go to the first $2200. Please reply offline.
Thanks,
Scott
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From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Subject: | 7-Day Matronics List Browse Enhancement... |
Dear Listers,
Neil Hulin of the Zenith-List at Matronics wrote to me suggesting I add a
"total of available messages" column to the 7-Day List Browse Main page,
and it seemed like a great idea! I've made the modifications and I think
many will find it extremely helpful as well. Have a look at the following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse/
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin...
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Subject: | Matronics ISP Upgrade TODAY... |
Dear Listers,
The time has finally arrived for the Internet Service Provider (ISP)
upgrade! You'll recall that I was looking into upgrading the existing SDSL
connection from 768k to 1.1M. As it turned out, the copper line wouldn't
support any speeds greater than the current 768k. In light of that news, I
just bit-the-bullet and ordered a full, commercial-grade T1
connection. The T1 connection will provide a full-duplex, high priority,
1.5Mb Internet connection which should be a substantial performance
enhancement for all of the List services!
Pacbell delivered the T1 Loop last week and it tested out fine. This past
weekend I pulled the tail circuit from the demark to the office. This
afternoon, Tuesday 4/1/03, the ISP is suppose come and install the new
router and bring up routing on a test subnet. Assuming that everything
checks out okay with the T1, new router, and routing, I will have them
swing the main Matronics subnet off the SDSL and onto the T1. In theory,
the swing could be nearly transparent to users, but that's usually not the
case... ;-)
Please expect a bit of instability in connectivity this afternoon as we
work though the transition issues. I will post a follow up message when
everything is up and running on the new T1 line.
Finally, please know that it is solely your Contributions that make these
kinds of List upgrades happen! There is no advertising budget (aka,
flashing banner ads and annoying pop up browser windows) to pay these
bills; operational support is solely from List members like you during the
yearly List Fund Raiser. If you would like to make your Contribution to
support the Lists and upgrades like this T1 connectivity enhancement,
please see the List Contribution Web Site where you can make your
Contribution with a Credit Card, PayPal, or Personal Check. You can even
get a free List Archive CDROM with a qualifying List Contribution! The URL
is: http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thanks again to EVERYONE that made a generous Contribution last year and
enabled this awesome upgrade to T1 service!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin.
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Subject: | Matronics ISP Upgrade COMPLETED! |
Dear Listers,
I just wanted to send out a quick note to let everyone know that the 1.5Mb
T1 connection upgrade went smoothly today. They brought up the new line
and router yesterday on a test subnet and today the ISP switched over
connectivity about 12 noon with little to no incident. I just finished
some performance testing, and it appears that actual throughput and
interactive response is noticeably improved as advertised!
Enjoy!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin.
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Frank <frv6a(at)yahoo.com> |
Subject: | Glasair for sale? |
I'd be interested in knowing about any completed
Glasairs for sale. Anything from a 1TD to a IIRG could
be of interest. I'm not sure enough about performance
specs to know which model I would want.
This would be my personal airplane and I'm looking for
something that is fast.
Thanks, Frank.
http://tax.yahoo.com
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: | Re: Glasair for sale? |
You may want to also investigate www.glasair.org.
Jim Oberst
----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank" <frv6a(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Glasair-List: Glasair for sale?
>
> I'd be interested in knowing about any completed
> Glasairs for sale. Anything from a 1TD to a IIRG could
> be of interest. I'm not sure enough about performance
> specs to know which model I would want.
> This would be my personal airplane and I'm looking for
> something that is fast.
> Thanks, Frank.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: | Re: Glasair for sale? |
Be careful. Some RG's are slower than FT's.
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: | Glasair 1TD owner needs assist |
Hi, All,
I have just completed the restoration of a Glasair 1TD and am short some
basic info. Can you help?
1. I need a Pilot's Operating Handbook
2. a copy of a Glasair 1TD certificate of airworthiness (I'll get the
original from FAA when I figure out which office to contact), and
3. a weight and balance form; preferably filled out for a sister aircraft
I'll be glad to reimburse anyone who can help.
Thanks,
Tom Towle
Mineola,TX
The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!
Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Freddie Freeloader <lists(at)stevet.net> |
Subject: | Re: Glasair 1TD owner needs assist |
Hello towlet,
I'd suggest that you contact New Glasair (http://www.newglasair.com).
They should be able to get you what you need.
Alternatively, look at http://www.glasair.org and join the Glasair
Builder's forum. Many answers to be had there.
--
Best regards,
Freddie mailto:lists(at)stevet.net
Friday, May 16, 2003, 10:28:24 AM, you wrote:
tjc> Hi, All,
tjc> I have just completed the restoration of a Glasair 1TD and am short some
tjc> basic info. Can you help?
tjc> 1. I need a Pilot's Operating Handbook
tjc> 2. a copy of a Glasair 1TD certificate of airworthiness (I'll get the
tjc> original from FAA when I figure out which office to contact), and
tjc> 3. a weight and balance form; preferably filled out for a sister aircraft
tjc> I'll be glad to reimburse anyone who can help.
tjc> Thanks,
tjc> Tom Towle
tjc> Mineola,TX
tjc> The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!
tjc> Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Cy Galley" <cgalley(at)qcbc.org> |
Subject: | Re: Glasair 1TD owner needs assist |
To get the paper work from the FAA, write or Call with your N number...
FAA Registrations
P.O. Box 25504
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma 73125-0504
or telephone at (405) 954-3116
They will send you CD_ROM for $5 that will have all your records.
Comes the tricky part. Print out your limitations and take it to your
local
FSDO to have it verified and certified. You might want to take you CD with
you so
they can check your copy with the data on the CD.
--
Cy Galley
Editor, EAA Safety Programs
cgalley(at)qcbc.org or experimenter(at)eaa.org
----- Original Message -----
From: <towlet(at)juno.com>
Subject: Glasair-List: Glasair 1TD owner needs assist
>
> Hi, All,
> I have just completed the restoration of a Glasair 1TD and am short some
> basic info. Can you help?
> 1. I need a Pilot's Operating Handbook
> 2. a copy of a Glasair 1TD certificate of airworthiness (I'll get the
> original from FAA when I figure out which office to contact), and
> 3. a weight and balance form; preferably filled out for a sister aircraft
>
> I'll be glad to reimburse anyone who can help.
> Thanks,
> Tom Towle
> Mineola,TX
>
> The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!
> Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: | Re: Glasair 1TD owner needs assist |
Thanks, Cy...Tom T
>
> To get the paper work from the FAA, write or Call with your N
> number...
> FAA Registrations
> P.O. Box 25504
> Oklahoma City, Oklahoma 73125-0504
>
> or telephone at (405) 954-3116
>
> They will send you CD_ROM for $5 that will have all your records.
>
> Comes the tricky part. Print out your limitations and take it to
> your
> local
> FSDO to have it verified and certified. You might want to take you
> CD with
> you so
> they can check your copy with the data on the CD.
>
> --
> Cy Galley
> Editor, EAA Safety Programs
> cgalley(at)qcbc.org or experimenter(at)eaa.org
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <towlet(at)juno.com>
> To:
> Subject: Glasair-List: Glasair 1TD owner needs assist
>
>
> >
> > Hi, All,
> > I have just completed the restoration of a Glasair 1TD and am
> short some
> > basic info. Can you help?
> > 1. I need a Pilot's Operating Handbook
> > 2. a copy of a Glasair 1TD certificate of airworthiness (I'll get
> the
> > original from FAA when I figure out which office to contact), and
> > 3. a weight and balance form; preferably filled out for a sister
> aircraft
> >
> > I'll be glad to reimburse anyone who can help.
> > Thanks,
> > Tom Towle
> > Mineola,TX
> >
> > The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!
> > Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!
Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: | Re: Glasair 1TD owner needs assist |
Thanks, Freddie...will do.
Tom Towle
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
writes:
>
>
> Hello towlet,
>
> I'd suggest that you contact New Glasair
> (http://www.newglasair.com).
> They should be able to get you what you need.
>
> Alternatively, look at http://www.glasair.org and join the Glasair
> Builder's forum. Many answers to be had there.
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Freddie mailto:lists(at)stevet.net
>
>
> Friday, May 16, 2003, 10:28:24 AM, you wrote:
>
>
> tjc> Hi, All,
> tjc> I have just completed the restoration of a Glasair 1TD and am
> short some
> tjc> basic info. Can you help?
> tjc> 1. I need a Pilot's Operating Handbook
> tjc> 2. a copy of a Glasair 1TD certificate of airworthiness (I'll
> get the
> tjc> original from FAA when I figure out which office to contact),
> and
> tjc> 3. a weight and balance form; preferably filled out for a
> sister aircraft
>
> tjc> I'll be glad to reimburse anyone who can help.
> tjc> Thanks,
> tjc> Tom Towle
> tjc> Mineola,TX
>
> tjc> The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!
> tjc> Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!
Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | MPPalmer(at)aol.com |
Subject: | FS - Price P-Tip prop turn key |
For Sale:
Price P-Tip wood prop that has about 800 hours on it. (Replaced it with a CS
prop.)
We have the Glasair spinner for it, already cut out and fit.
We have the Mark Landoll 12 lb static weight which really helps with
smoothness and CG concerns.
We have the 4" prop extension and the appropriate crush plate and bolts.
(Those bolts were $25 each from S-H!)
Pretty much a turn key operation, although the prop could use a coat of
paint, as the leading edge saw rain in IMC. (Flew thru a tropical depression
on the way to Florida once. )
I think this prop and hardware will also bolt on to an RV with a Lyc 320,
although I don't know what spinner backplate diameter RV drivers use.
Based in Phoenix, Arizona, prop and plane have been hangared since birth.
$1300
If interested,
Mike Palmer <><
Excellence in Ergonomics
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | frequent flyer <jdhcv(at)yahoo.com> |
Subject: | Re: FS - Price P-Tip prop turn key |
--- MPPalmer(at)aol.com wrote:
>
> For Sale:
>
> Price P-Tip wood prop that has about 800 hours on
> it. (Replaced it with a CS
> prop.)
>
Glad to see others using this list. Don't know for
sure which group to post in in the Glasair.org gruoup
when I have a question. I may be interested in your
prop but I'm also interested in where you are based in
Phoenix cause I'm in Camp Verde on the Montezuma
Heights airpark and trying to finish up a Glasair II S
FT. I'd enjoy talking with you and would enjoy having
you fly in for a visit.
Jack
> Based in Phoenix, Arizona, prop and plane have been
> hangared since birth.
>
> $1300
>
> If interested,
>
> Mike Palmer <><
> Excellence in Ergonomics
>
>
>
> Contributions
> any other
> Forums.
>
> latest messages.
> List members.
>
> http://www.matronics.com/subscription
> http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Glasair-List.htm
> Digests:http://www.matronics.com/digest/glasair-list
> http://www.matronics.com/archives
> http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
> http://www.matronics.com/emaillists
>
>
>
>
>
__________________________________
http://search.yahoo.com
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | MPPalmer(at)aol.com |
Hi Jack:
Based at DVT. It takes longer to taxi out and wait for clearance than it
does to make the actual flight up there.
What are the rules about flying into Montezuma? Do I need a permission slip?
Mike <><
> Glad to see others using this list. Don't know for
> sure which group to post in in the Glasair.org gruoup
> when I have a question. I may be interested in your
> prop but I'm also interested in where you are based in
> Phoenix cause I'm in Camp Verde on the Montezuma
> Heights airpark and trying to finish up a Glasair II S
> FT. I'd enjoy talking with you and would enjoy having
> you fly in for a visit.
>
> Jack
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Bruce Gray" <Bruce(at)glasair.org> |
If you're uncertain about the group names, I'm open to suggestions.
Bruce
www.glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
MPPalmer(at)aol.com
Subject: Glasair-List: Visit
Hi Jack:
Based at DVT. It takes longer to taxi out and wait for clearance than
it
does to make the actual flight up there.
What are the rules about flying into Montezuma? Do I need a permission
slip?
Mike <><
> Glad to see others using this list. Don't know for
> sure which group to post in in the Glasair.org gruoup
> when I have a question. I may be interested in your
> prop but I'm also interested in where you are based in
> Phoenix cause I'm in Camp Verde on the Montezuma
> Heights airpark and trying to finish up a Glasair II S
> FT. I'd enjoy talking with you and would enjoy having
> you fly in for a visit.
>
> Jack
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | frequent flyer <jdhcv(at)yahoo.com> |
Mike,
Understand about DVT, no permission needed at
Montezuma, especially if you are coming to visit a
resident. I am at the end of 35 on the East side.
Frequency is 122.9 and you might even find someone on
frequency. My phone # is 928-567-6911. Work is
567-3330 and cell is 821-1144. I'm off on Tuesday and
Thursday and usually home on the weekends. I'd enjoy a
visit but I could also fly into DVT in the 150
sometime.
Jack
--- MPPalmer(at)aol.com wrote:
>
> Hi Jack:
>
> Based at DVT. It takes longer to taxi out and wait
> for clearance than it
> does to make the actual flight up there.
>
> What are the rules about flying into Montezuma? Do
> I need a permission slip?
>
> Mike <><
>
__________________________________
http://search.yahoo.com
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | frequent flyer <jdhcv(at)yahoo.com> |
Bruce, That was not meant as a slam, you have done a
great job with Glasair.org and I find it extremely
useful. I don't even have a suggestion as to how to
solve my minor issue. I only made the comment because
if I have a question to ask I'd kind of like everyone
to see it instead of posting it in a certain section
or having to post it in all section. I have really
been very impressed with the job you've done. Keep up
the good work and thanks for your response.
Jack
--- Bruce Gray wrote:
>
>
> If you're uncertain about the group names, I'm open
> to suggestions.
>
> Bruce
> www.glasair.org
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On
> Behalf Of
> MPPalmer(at)aol.com
> To: glasair-list(at)matronics.com
>
> > Glad to see others using this list. Don't know for
> > sure which group to post in in the Glasair.org
> gruoup
> > when I have a question.
__________________________________
http://search.yahoo.com
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | John Grosse <grosseair(at)ameritech.net> |
I know what Jack means. As a new member of glassair.org, I've been a bit
overwhelmed. There is so much information that I hardly know where to
start. I've gotten my bearing a little better now, but one thing that
would be nice would be to subscribe to a listserv that automatically
forwarded all the new messages as they're posted rather than having to
go in and search. Probably, a lot of people wouldn't want to be deluged
with that many e-mails, but it would help me be sure I wasn't missing
anything new. (Maybe there is a listserv and I just haven't figured out
how to sign up yet.? Help me out here if that's the case.)
Let me echo the praise for Bruce on the fabulous content and
organization of the glassair.org site. It's THE best resource for
builders of anything that I've seen bar none! Thank you, Bruce!
John Grosse
frequent flyer wrote:
>
>Bruce, That was not meant as a slam, you have done a
>great job with Glasair.org and I find it extremely
>useful. I don't even have a suggestion as to how to
>solve my minor issue. I only made the comment because
>if I have a question to ask I'd kind of like everyone
>to see it instead of posting it in a certain section
>or having to post it in all section. I have really
>been very impressed with the job you've done. Keep up
>the good work and thanks for your response.
>
>Jack
>--- Bruce Gray wrote:
>
>
>>
>>
>>If you're uncertain about the group names, I'm open
>>to suggestions.
>>
>>Bruce
>>www.glasair.org
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com
>>[mailto:owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On
>>Behalf Of
>>MPPalmer(at)aol.com
>>To: glasair-list(at)matronics.com
>>
>>
>>
>>>Glad to see others using this list. Don't know for
>>> sure which group to post in in the Glasair.org
>>>
>>>
>>gruoup
>>
>>
>>> when I have a question.
>>>
>>>
>
>__________________________________
>http://search.yahoo.com
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Freddie Freeloader <lists(at)stevet.net> |
Hello John,
The Glasair list does, indeed, send out each message as posted, if you
ask it to. That is the way I read all of my messages from
Glasair.org. Once logged into the Forums, click on the "More . . ."
button at the top, and then click on "Mailing Lists." Then select the
topics you want to receive e-mail messages for. I have them all
checked.
Thereafter, you get an e-mail of each posting in the topics selected.
--
Best regards,
Freddie mailto:lists(at)stevet.net
Tuesday, May 20, 2003, 2:44:29 PM, you wrote:
JG> I know what Jack means. As a new member of glassair.org, I've been a bit
JG> overwhelmed. There is so much information that I hardly know where to
JG> start. I've gotten my bearing a little better now, but one thing that
JG> would be nice would be to subscribe to a listserv that automatically
JG> forwarded all the new messages as they're posted rather than having to
JG> go in and search. Probably, a lot of people wouldn't want to be deluged
JG> with that many e-mails, but it would help me be sure I wasn't missing
JG> anything new. (Maybe there is a listserv and I just haven't figured out
JG> how to sign up yet.? Help me out here if that's the case.)
JG> Let me echo the praise for Bruce on the fabulous content and
JG> organization of the glassair.org site. It's THE best resource for
JG> builders of anything that I've seen bar none! Thank you, Bruce!
JG> John Grosse
JG> frequent flyer wrote:
>>
>>Bruce, That was not meant as a slam, you have done a
>>great job with Glasair.org and I find it extremely
>>useful. I don't even have a suggestion as to how to
>>solve my minor issue. I only made the comment because
>>if I have a question to ask I'd kind of like everyone
>>to see it instead of posting it in a certain section
>>or having to post it in all section. I have really
>>been very impressed with the job you've done. Keep up
>>the good work and thanks for your response.
>>
>>Jack
>>--- Bruce Gray wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>If you're uncertain about the group names, I'm open
>>>to suggestions.
>>>
>>>Bruce
>>>www.glasair.org
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com
>>>[mailto:owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On
>>>Behalf Of
>>>MPPalmer(at)aol.com
>>>To: glasair-list(at)matronics.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Glad to see others using this list. Don't know for
>>>> sure which group to post in in the Glasair.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>gruoup
>>>
>>>
>>>> when I have a question.
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>__________________________________
>>http://search.yahoo.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | frequent flyer <jdhcv(at)yahoo.com> |
--- John Grosse wrote:
>
>
> I know what Jack means. As a new member of
> glassair.org, I've been a bit
> overwhelmed. There is so much information that I
> hardly know where to
> start. I've gotten my bearing a little better now,
> but one thing that
> would be nice would be to subscribe to a listserv
> that automatically
> forwarded all the new messages as they're posted
> rather than having to
> go in and search. Probably, a lot of people wouldn't
> want to be deluged
> with that many e-mails, but it would help me be sure
> I wasn't missing
> anything new. (Maybe there is a listserv and I just
> haven't figured out
> how to sign up yet.? Help me out here if that's the
> case.)
>
> Let me echo the praise for Bruce on the fabulous
> content and
> organization of the glassair.org site. It's THE best
> resource for
> builders of anything that I've seen bar none! Thank
> you, Bruce!
>
> John Grosse
>
John, I'm sure you've read Freddy's post by now and
found out how to receive all the messages. I found
that option, my problem was how to post a message that
would be read by all. That may be a moot point since
probably the main contributers on the sight read all
the messages. It would be interesting to run a test
and ask everyone to respond and post it on only one
group.
Still an extremely well done and very nice site.
Jack
__________________________________
http://search.yahoo.com
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Freddie Freeloader <lists(at)stevet.net> |
Wednesday, May 21, 2003, 8:18:07 AM, you wrote:
ff> John, I'm sure you've read Freddy's post by now and
ff> found out how to receive all the messages. I found
ff> that option, my problem was how to post a message that
ff> would be read by all. That may be a moot point since
ff> probably the main contributers on the sight read all
ff> the messages. It would be interesting to run a test
ff> and ask everyone to respond and post it on only one
ff> group.
ff> Still an extremely well done and very nice site.
ff> Jack
ff> __________________________________
ff> http://search.yahoo.com
Hello frequent,
??? What exactly do you mean, "read by all"? People can choose to
read what they want to read. That's the nice thing about the list.
And, you can choose to read the messages on the web site or via
e-mail. Also, Bruce will be willing to add categories if there is a
reason to do so. Also, there is the "Daily News" page where important
news items and announcements are posted. So, I guess that I don't
understand what your point (or question) is.
--
Best regards,
Freddie mailto:lists(at)stevet.net
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Bruce Gray" <Bruce(at)glasair.org> |
There's really 3 ways to read the forum messages.
1) Logon to the system at www.glasair.org.
2) Read and post via the listserv.
3) The forums are available as newsgroups (NNTP) at news.glasair.org.
Bruce
www.glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Freddie
Freeloader
Subject: Re[2]: Glasair-List: Visit
Wednesday, May 21, 2003, 8:18:07 AM, you wrote:
ff> John, I'm sure you've read Freddy's post by now and
ff> found out how to receive all the messages. I found
ff> that option, my problem was how to post a message that
ff> would be read by all. That may be a moot point since
ff> probably the main contributers on the sight read all
ff> the messages. It would be interesting to run a test
ff> and ask everyone to respond and post it on only one
ff> group.
ff> Still an extremely well done and very nice site.
ff> Jack
ff> __________________________________
ff> http://search.yahoo.com
Hello frequent,
??? What exactly do you mean, "read by all"? People can choose to
read what they want to read. That's the nice thing about the list.
And, you can choose to read the messages on the web site or via
e-mail. Also, Bruce will be willing to add categories if there is a
reason to do so. Also, there is the "Daily News" page where important
news items and announcements are posted. So, I guess that I don't
understand what your point (or question) is.
--
Best regards,
Freddie mailto:lists(at)stevet.net
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | frequent flyer <jdhcv(at)yahoo.com> |
--- Bruce Gray wrote:
>
>
> There's really 3 ways to read the forum messages.
>
> 1) Logon to the system at www.glasair.org.
>
> 2) Read and post via the listserv.
>
> 3) The forums are available as newsgroups (NNTP) at
> news.glasair.org.
>
> Bruce
> www.glasair.org
>
Bruce and others, I didn't make that comment as a
criticism and don't really have a problem. I think the
point was missed that I don't know where to post a
question so everyone will see it and I have no idea
how to make that happen. I find that I can also keep
informed on all forums by hitting more and today's
messages. Still impressed by the site and even more
impressed by your quick response on this list. To
others, I didn't even expect a comment on my first
post let alone a discussion but thank you for the
help.
Jack
__________________________________
http://search.yahoo.com
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From: | mell(at)tradezone.com |
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CoffeeCup-Checked: 1
----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
glasair-list digest list
glasair-list digest list User Unknown
123-9ad-ikW-10A-QWpO-1294-jaiq-zxcm
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | <phil(at)petrasoft.net> |
Please see the attached zip file for details.
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | mell(at)tradezone.com |
Subject: | Delivery Status Notification (Failure) |
CoffeeCup-Checked: 1
----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
glasair-list digest list
glasair-list digest list User Unknown
123-9ad-ikW-10A-QWpO-1294-jaiq-zxcm
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | mell(at)tradezone.com |
Subject: | Delivery Status Notification (Failure) |
CoffeeCup-Checked: 1
----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
glasair-list digest list
glasair-list digest list User Unknown
123-9ad-ikW-10A-QWpO-1294-jaiq-zxcm
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | mell(at)tradezone.com |
Subject: | Delivery Status Notification (Failure) |
CoffeeCup-Checked: 1
----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
glasair-list digest list
glasair-list digest list User Unknown
123-9ad-ikW-10A-QWpO-1294-jaiq-zxcm
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | mell(at)tradezone.com |
Subject: | Delivery Status Notification (Failure) |
CoffeeCup-Checked: 1
----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
glasair-list digest list
glasair-list digest list User Unknown
123-9ad-ikW-10A-QWpO-1294-jaiq-zxcm
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | mell(at)tradezone.com |
Subject: | Delivery Status Notification (Failure) |
CoffeeCup-Checked: 1
----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
glasair-list digest list
glasair-list digest list User Unknown
123-9ad-ikW-10A-QWpO-1294-jaiq-zxcm
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | mell(at)tradezone.com |
Subject: | Delivery Status Notification (Failure) |
CoffeeCup-Checked: 1
----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
glasair-list digest list
glasair-list digest list User Unknown
123-9ad-ikW-10A-QWpO-1294-jaiq-zxcm
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: | Re: Delivery Status Notification (Failure) |
Why am I getting all these fairlure to deliver messages???
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
Subject: | New SPAM and Virus Filtering Appliance At Matronics... |
Dear Listers,
I will be installing a new SPAM and virus blocking appliance this
evening or tomorrow. The installation will involve some changes
in the Matronics DNS MX records, and will impact how incoming
email is handled. While I expect these changes to be transparent
to all of the List subscribers, things might go differently... ;-)
The Lists get bombarded with tons of SPAM messages and viruses
each day and fortunately my custom filters have been extremely
effective at filtering most of this from redistribution. Its
time to move to the next level of technology, however, and this
SPAM and Virus filtering appliance seems like an excellent
solution.
I will post a follow up message later in the week when things
have stabilized and I have some filter statistics to share.
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin.
--
Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | RiteAngle3(at)aol.com |
Subject: | % RiteAngle AOA owners |
Hello Glasair aircraft builders. I know I have a few customers out there in
your ranks. If you are building an aircraft or flying your aircraft with the
RiteAngle AOA system I would appreciate personal photos of installation and
comments, positive or negative sent to me off list. Please state model of
aircraft, hours flown with RiteAngle AOA system and any suggestions.
Those who have questions re AOA please also contact me off list. I don't
want to use the list unless questions are asked that would apply to all.
address for contact: riteangle3(at)aol.com
There are several hundred RiteAngle systems out there and many owners have
changed e-mail addresses.
Thanks,
Elbie
Outstanding Customer Service is our Motto
If you like it let others know
If not let me know!
EM aviation, LLC
Elbie Mendenhall
President
13411 NE Prairie Rd
Brush Prairie, WA 98606
Phone & Fax 360-260-0772
www.RiteAngle.com
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Subject: | [Please Read] SPAM Filter Could Be Causing Posting Problems |
For Some Members...?
Dear Listers,
Matronics is now utilizing a SPAM filter appliance to filter out the
excessive amounts of inappropriate email that bombards the Email List
Forums each day. The filter is reporting that over 66% of the email
messages sent to Matronics email destinations are of SPAM content and
reviewing the logfiles, it would appear to be true. That is indeed great!
While the Lists are enjoying the breath of fresh air afforded by the new
appliance, I am suspecting that a few legitimate email List posts are being
blocked as too, although I can't confirm this. It is difficult to churn
through the logfiles looking though thousands of blocked email messages
trying to determine if any legitimate List posts were blocked.
If you suspect that your posts are accidently being blocked by the SPAM
filter appliance, I have created a new Trouble Report web page that will
allow you to report your problems directly to me without having to use
email. If the SPAM filter is blocking your email address for some reason,
then its likely that I wouldn't be able to receive your direct email
regarding difficulty in posting. The web form bypasses the incoming email
and directs your message directly to me.
Please include as much information as possible regarding the problems you
are having including any bounced email or email error messages that you may
have received back in regard to your posts to the lists. The more
information I have about the email you are sending and what the errors you
are receiving, the better chance I'll have in hunting down the problem.
The Trouble Report Website URL is:
http://www.matronics.com/trouble-report/
I apologize for any inconvenience the SPAM filter may be causing you. I
will work toward resolving your issues as quickly as possible.
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics EMail List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | MPPalmer(at)aol.com |
Subject: | For Sale - old style (5/8") canopy bulb seal |
Subject line says it all.
I mistakenly bought the wrong size bulb seal from NewGlasair, and they won't
take it back. My loss your gain. I paid $3.20/ft - will sell for $2.00/ft.
Mike Palmer <><
Excellence in Ergonomics
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Subject: | All New Matronics Email List Online Chat!!! |
Hi Listers!
A number of Listers have been asking for some Matronics Email List online
chat and NOW ITS HERE! Over the last couple of days I've set up a nifty
web-based Chat site here on the Matronics systems. No special programs to
download; all you need is a late model web browser like Internet Explorer
or Netscape with a java plugin. I would recommend downloading the latest
Java plugin if you experience any problems getting the page to come
up. Here's a link to the Sun Java download
website. http://java.com/en/index.jsp Look for the green box with the
yellow arrow in the upper right corner. Before you bother, though, just
try you browser because it'll probably just work.
Each Email List on Matronics has its own "Room" and all rooms can easily be
accessed from the same client. In the Email List URL Trailer at the bottom
of each List message, you'll find the Link to this List's specific Chat
Room. Just click on the Link, and then type in your name or email address
in the User Name box. Try to use a name or email address that the other
Listers know you by. You'll find me lurking around the various List chat
rooms as "MattDralle".
There's a couple of nifty features I'll explain right off. On the main
Chat Window page after you login, you'll see a little icon with a Hammer
and a Screwdriver. This is the Control Panel window. Once the Control
Panel comes up, click on the "Settings" tab. Here you'll find, among other
things, three check boxes to enable sound. Click all three and you'll be
treated to a sound whenever someone enters or leaves the Room, or when
someone sends a message.
The other cool button is the one that has four little arrows pointing to
each of the four corners of the button. This will rip the main Chat window
from the web page and allow you to resize and move it anyway you'd like.
Let's have some fun and get to know one another better using this awesome
new Chat Room! To get started, just click the URL Link below for this
List's specific Chat Room!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin
PS - I'm working on a web link interface to the chat logfiles. Coming soon...
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Subject: | 2003 List Fund Raiser - Please Support Your Lists... |
Dear Listers,
During November of each year, I have a voluntary Email List Fund Raiser to
support the continued operation, development, maintenance and upgrade of
the Email Forums sponsored here. Your Contributions go directly into
improvements in the systems that support the Lists and to pay for the
Internet connectivity primarily dedicated to supporting the Lists.
The traffic on the Lists continues to grow and the numbers are nothing
short of impressive! Here are some statistics that show how much traffic
the Lists generated this year alone:
* 11/01/2002 - 10/31/2003
o Web server hits: 10,446,780 (870,565/mo)
o Incoming Email Posts: 58,918 (4,909/mo)
List-related upgrades this year have been plentiful, and List performance
has substantially improved as a result. Upgrades and enhancements this
year have included:
* Internet Connection upgrade to a full, commercial-grade T1 Line!
* New Web Server platform - Dual 3Ghz Xeon with 2Gb Ram and U320 SCSI!
* Upgrade of Email Server platform - Dual 1.7 Ghz Xeon with 1Gb Ram!
* All new SPAM Filtering Appliance - filters about 98% of the unwanted SPAM!
* All new, web-base List Chat Room society!
As you can well imagine, this year's upgrades translate into a fair amount
of cash outlay on my part and this annual List Fund Raiser is the sole
means by which I fund these upgrades. Unlike most of the other "list
servers" on the Web these days, I have a strict
*no-commercial-advertisement policy* on the Matronics Lists and associated
List web sites. I was again approached by a number of vendors recently
with advertising deals that have been very tempting. My commitment to
providing a grass-roots, non-commercial environment prevailed,
however! Commercialism on the Internet seems to be increasing
exponentially every year, with more and more SPAM and pop up ads, not to
mention the ever increasing Virus attacks.
My goal with the Matronics List Service is to provide all members
with a commercial-free, virus-free, and high-performance system
with which the may share information, ideas, and camaraderie.
The best news this year is that, with the gracious help of Andy Gold and
The Builder's Bookstore ( http://www.buildersbooks.com ), I have been able
to significantly expand the lineup of fantastic Gift offers to support the
List Fund Raiser! In all, there are eight awesome free gifts this year
ranging from List Archive CD's to Flight Computers with qualifying
Contribution levels. Those great Jeppesen Flight Bags that were so popular
last year are even back! A special thanks goes out to Andy Gold again this
year for his very kind and generous support of the Lists. Thanks Andy, for
these great incentives!!
Over the next month I'll be posting a few reminder messages about the List
Fund Raiser, and I ask for your patience and understanding during the
process. Remember that the Lists are *completely* funded through the
generous Contributions of its members. That's it! There's no support from
a bloated advertising budget or deep pockets somewhere. Its all made
possible through YOUR thoughtful and generous support!
To make your List Contribution using a Visa or MasterCard, PalPal, or with
a personal check, please go to the URL link below. Here you can find
additional details on this year's great free Gifts as well as information
on the various methods of payment. Contributions in the $20, $30, $50,
$75, and $100 range are common. The Contribution web page is kind of long
this year with the details of each of the gifts, so please scroll all the
way down!
SSL Secure Contribution Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contributions
I would like to thank everyone who supports the Lists this year! Your
Contributions truly make it all possible!!
Thank you!!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Subject: | List Fund Raiser - Wow, Have You Seen The Free Gifts? |
Dear Listers,
The List Fund Raiser is going well so far this year and I wanted to say
"Thank You" to everyone that has made a Contribution already this year!
Though the generous support of Andy Gold and the Builders Bookstore (
http://www.buildersbooks.com ), I'm able to offer some truly awesome gifts
with qualifying Contributions this year. There's quite a line up and a
rather diverse set of options - certainly something for every taste and
personality. Here's a list of this year's fine options:
* List Archive CD
* Aircraft Builder's Log
* Pilot Flashlight System
* Pro Pilot Logbook
* FAR/AIM on CD
* Jeppesen Flight Bag
* Aviation History Book
* Techstar Flight Computer
Please support your Email List Community AND pick up a really slick Gift at
the same time! The SSL Secure Contribution web site can be found at the
following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/contributions
Once again, I would like to thank everyone that has so generously supported
the continued operation and upgrade of the Lists Services here on the
Matronics servers!!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: | Instruments for Sale |
beech-list(at)matronics.com, cessna-list(at)matronics.com,
homebuilt-list(at)matronics.com, kr-list(at)matronics.com,
piper-list(at)matronics.com, warbird-list(at)matronics.com
I have the following for sale:
RC Allen Electric Attitude Indicator, 14V, 8 degree tilt, 75hrs
RC Allen Electric Directional Gyro, 14V, 150 hrs
Both instruments are still in my RV-8A panel and flying. Have been flying
the instruments 1 year. Working perfectly. Each list for $1895. Make offer
direct to: lenleg(at)aol.com
Len Leggette, RV-8A
Greensboro, NC N910LL
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Dear Listers,
Below are some of the nice things people have been saying about the Lists
in that little message box on the Contribution form! Thank you to everyone
that has made a Contribution thus far and for all the great
feedback! Please know that I really appreciate the comments and support!!
If you haven't yet shown your support for these Lists, won't you take a
moment and make your Contribution today? The Matronics Lists are always
Commercial-Free, SPAM-Free, Virus-Free, and High-performance and its your
direct support through this yearly Fund Raiser that enables all of these
valuable services you've come to expect.
Thank you for your Contribution!!
SSL Secure Web Site - http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Matt Dralle
EMail List Administrator
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=================== What Listers Are Saying ====================
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You provide a service to us kit builders that cannot be measured.
-Clifford M.
...great service to the aviation community.
-Curt R.
Thanks for being there - your List has really been of help.
-Thomas R.
Your lists have been most helpful to my RV-9A project.
-Dean V.
...has been a great help to me.
-Jim N.
..."must-have" for RV builders and pilots.
-Douglas W.
I find something every day on the List that helps me in my project.
-Ron P.
...very valuable!
-Patrick L.
Don't know that I could have persevered and succeeded without the List.
-Curt R.
...service continues to be awesome and is one of the most helpful resources
for homebuilding that I have ever found.
-Jim H.
The information and hours of entertainment many of us derive from the Lists
is priceless.
-Chris R.
I learn a lot about my [aircraft] through the Lists...
- Lee P.
Great source of education and entertainment. Love it!!!
-Lar B.
Great List & very well organized.
-Peter D.
I couldn't build my [airplane] without this List.
-William G.
The List is an important part of my daily routine.
-Roger H.
...incredible resource.
-Ron P.
Excellent facility.
-David M.
...unmatched service to all builders and flyers.
-Ralph C.
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Subject: | [PLEASE READ] - Why Do I Have A Fund Raiser Each Year? |
Dear Listers,
I was thinking that perhaps I should explain why I have a Fund Raiser and
also take the opportunity to express why I think the List Services here
provide a far better experience than the commercial equivalents.
I use the List Fund Raiser each year to offset the costs involved with
running a high performance email list site such as this one. With the
annual support from the List members through the PBS-like Fund Raiser, I
have found I can run the entire site without having to inflect any of the
members with those annoying banner ads flashing up all the time trying to
sell Toner Cartridge Refills or other garbage nobody wants or needs. From
the comments I've received over the years regarding the Lists, the great
majority of the members really appreciate the non-commercialism of my List
systems and don't mind my 'go-team-go' banter once a year to encourage
members to support the Lists.
I believe that the Lists services that I provide here offer a great many
benefits over the commercial equivalents in a number of ways. The first
feature I believe to be particularly significant is that you *cannot*
receive a computer v*rus from any of my Lists directly. I've been on a few
other List servers and have been unfortunate enough to download infected
files people have innocently or not-so-innocently included with their
posts. This just can't happen with my Lists; each incoming message is
filtered and attachments stripped off prior to posting. I provide a Photo
and File Share feature that allows members to share files and bitmaps with
other members and everyone can be assured that these files will be
prescanned for any sort of v*rus before they are posted. Safe and
simple. Also, with this photo and file sharing technique, the Archives
don't get loaded up with a huge amounts of bitmap "data" that slows the
Archive Search times.
Another feature of this system is the extensive List Archives that are
available for download, browsing, and searching. The Archives go all the
way back to the very beginning of each List and with the super fast Search
Engine, the huge size of the Archives is a non-issue in quickly finding the
data you're looking for. Another feature of the Archives, in my opinion,
is that they have been primarily stripped of all the useless email header
data and all the other header garbage that seems to build up in a typical
email thread.
I have received an extremely positive response from Listers regarding the
List Browse feature and the consensus is that the format and ease of use is
outstanding. Members report that having the previous 7 days worth of
messages on line for easy browsing and sorting is hugely beneficial. And
again, as with the real time distribution of List email, the messages are
stripped of all the unnecessary email headers and potentially dangerous
v*ruses.
I've been running email Lists and services under the matronics.com domain
since about 1989 starting with RV-List and 30 guys who I knew and who where
also building RVs. It has grown into over 40 different aviation-related
Email Lists and an associated web site that receives over 10,000,000 hits
each year!! Additionally, the List email system forwards well over
90,000,000 (yes, that 90 MILLION) email messages to subscribers each
year! With all the dot.bombs these days, I think there's a lot of value in
supporting a service that has gone the long haul and is still providing and
improving a high quality service at a price that's nearly free.
I have to admit running these Lists is a labor of love and I hope it shows
in the quality of the experience that you receive when you get a List Email
Message, Search the Archives, or use the List Browser. The Lists will be
here for a long time to come. If you just want to lurk a while for free,
that's great and I encourage you to do so. If you use, appreciate, and
receive value from these Lists, then please support them during the Annual
List Fund Raiser!
-----------------------------------------------
The SSL Secure Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
-----------------------------------------------
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Subject: | What Listers Are Saying III |
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Garey Wittich <gareywittich2000(at)yahoo.com> |
Subject: | 25% COST SAVINGS - MIL-T-4345B Electronic Lacing Cord |
glasair-list(at)matronics.com, kolb-list(at)matronics.com,
zenith-list(at)matronics.com, europa-list(at)matronics.com, ez-list(at)matronics.com
I have some "Brand New" (in original packaging)
MIL-T-43435B Lacing Cord, Type 2 (polyester / Hi
Temp), Finish C (synthetic Rubber or Elastomer), Size
3 (50 Lb min strength, 0.085" wide X 0.014" thick).
This Cord is used extensively by Avionic Shops to
tie individual electrical wires into bundles for their
avionic equipment.
* Least expensive way to make Wire Bundles.
* Will not cut into wires like Dental Floss
used by some Builders, as it is "flat".
* Higher Temp Rating (-73 Deg C to 177 Deg C)
than Type 1 (-55 Deg C to 121 Deg C) that is
sold by Aircraft Spruce and Chief Aircraft
for $21 per Spool + Shipping Cost
* Each Spool contains 500 yards of BLUE Cord.
(Share with other Builders)
* Excellent "KNOT" retention.
* See: www.versatileindustrial.com/gudebrod.html
for additional information.
* Selling for $16 per Spool (Blue color) -
includes shipping in the US. SUPPLIES LIMITED
If interested, E-mail me off-line at-
gareywittich2000(at)yahoo.com
__________________________________
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________________________________________________________________________________
From: | st.ellison(at)comcast.net |
Anyone interested in a full G-III kit with engine and factory assembled Future
Vision Panel? Or do you think there is any opportunity for selling off the parts
individually?
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Bruce Gray" <Bruce(at)glasair.org> |
You'll have to be more specific as to what you have.
Bruce
www.glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
st.ellison(at)comcast.net
Subject:
Anyone interested in a full G-III kit with engine and factory assembled
Future Vision Panel? Or do you think there is any opportunity for
selling off the parts individually?
==
==
==
==
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Dj Merrill <deej(at)thayer.dartmouth.edu> |
On Fri, 2004-01-16 at 14:18, st.ellison(at)comcast.net wrote:
>
> Anyone interested in a full G-III kit with engine and factory assembled Future
Vision Panel? Or do you think there is any opportunity for selling off the parts
individually?
Someone might be. I'd include a detailed list of what
you have, and a rough asking price. Try posting it on
barnstormers.com and trade-a-plane, places like that.
IMHO, I would not part out the G-III kit, but
you might be able to sell the engine and panel separately
if no takers for everything together.
Just my half cents worth...
-Dj
________________________________________________________________________________
Don't make the mistake of parting out the kit. You may be left with very
expensive parts nobody wants. I would advertise in Trade A Plane because you would
have world wide exposure. Purchasing a complete kit from a private party is
more desirable rather than purchasing a kit from the company. The reason is,
the buyer has less risk off losing their money. Since taking over the assets of
Stoddard Hamilton, The New Glas Air has done nothing to improve the Glasair
line. Many feel that the company is in a state of stagnation and it will only be
a matter of time before the line becomes stale, slower in speed and outdated.
On the other hand, Van's aircraft and Lancair constantly offer new products
and speed modifications to their aircraft. When you go to Sun and Fun look
where all the action is...at Lancair and Vans Aircraft!!. The New Glasair tent
appears to be vacant, quiet and downbeat. Many feel The NewGlasair missed a
great opprotunity to come forth with a new generation of high performance
aircraft. Ask The New Glasair about carbon fiber, speed fairings and cowlings and
all
you get is a tired blank stare.
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Dj Merrill <deej(at)thayer.dartmouth.edu> |
On Fri, 2004-01-16 at 15:35, N16cd(at)aol.com wrote:
>
> Don't make the mistake of parting out the kit. You may be left with very
> expensive parts nobody wants. I would advertise in Trade A Plane because you
would
> have world wide exposure. Purchasing a complete kit from a private party is
> more desirable rather than purchasing a kit from the company.
This I agree with, but the reason is generally because you
can usually buy it for several thousand dollars cheaper.
You just have to make sure you get the complete kit
with no missing pieces.
> The reason is,
> the buyer has less risk off losing their money. Since taking over the assets
of
> Stoddard Hamilton, The New Glas Air has done nothing to improve the Glasair
> line. Many feel that the company is in a state of stagnation and it will only
be
> a matter of time before the line becomes stale, slower in speed and outdated.
> On the other hand, Van's aircraft and Lancair constantly offer new products
> and speed modifications to their aircraft. When you go to Sun and Fun look
> where all the action is...at Lancair and Vans Aircraft!!. The New Glasair tent
> appears to be vacant, quiet and downbeat. Many feel The NewGlasair missed a
> great opprotunity to come forth with a new generation of high performance
> aircraft. Ask The New Glasair about carbon fiber, speed fairings and cowlings
and all
> you get is a tired blank stare.
I definitely do not agree with this. In the short
time that NG has been in the business, they have focused on
developing the Glastar/Sportsman line, and they
have had nothing but excellent support for their Glasair
customers. I could not see them trying to develop
TWO aircraft designs at once, and they went with
the Sportsman. That says nothing about whether or not
they are going to develop the Glasair line (I personally
would like to see a 4 seat version).
At Sun-N-Fun there were tons of people mulling around the
NG tent, and to me did not appear vacant or quiet at all.
Not sure where your information came from on that count.
All in all, NG seems to be doing a great job
supporting their customers with an already excellent
Glasair product line.
-Dj
--
Dj Merrill Thayer School of Engineering
ThUG Sr. Unix Systems Administrator 8000 Cummings Hall
deej(at)thayer.dartmouth.edu - N1JOV Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH 03755
"On the side of the software box, in the 'System Requirements' section,
it said 'Requires Windows 95 or better'. So I installed Linux."
-Anonymous
________________________________________________________________________________
You may disagree with me, but thirteen years ago I built an Oshkosh winning
Glasair that I have traveled all over the US, Canada, Bahamas and have also
raced. I go to S&F every year and have been to the NG tent many times and have
witnessed things for myself. If you were a speed freak and offered a new Glasair
111 or a new Lancair Legacy we know which one you would take. Lancair
Legacies drivers love waxing the asses of Glasair 111 drivers. I receive many E-Mails
from other Glasair builder/ owners. The disscussion I have with other Glasair
owners is the lack of NG inovation into the GLASAIR. Three drivers have no
interest in Glas Stars and are a completely different animal than a Glas Star
"sports man". You may have answered your own question when you talked about the
Glas Star. Porsches and Escorts don't mix.
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Dj Merrill <deej(at)thayer.dartmouth.edu> |
On Fri, 2004-01-16 at 16:22, N16cd(at)aol.com wrote:
>
> You may disagree with me, but thirteen years ago I built an Oshkosh winning
> Glasair that I have traveled all over the US, Canada, Bahamas and have also
> raced. I go to S&F every year and have been to the NG tent many times and have
> witnessed things for myself. If you were a speed freak and offered a new Glasair
> 111 or a new Lancair Legacy we know which one you would take. Lancair
> Legacies drivers love waxing the asses of Glasair 111 drivers. I receive many
E-Mails
> from other Glasair builder/ owners. The disscussion I have with other Glasair
> owners is the lack of NG inovation into the GLASAIR. Three drivers have no
> interest in Glas Stars and are a completely different animal than a Glas Star
> "sports man". You may have answered your own question when you talked about the
> Glas Star. Porsches and Escorts don't mix.
I have no problem with us disagreeing - I'm sure there
are many people out there that do not share my opinions... *grin*
It just seems like you are taking a very limited view and only
focusing on one aspect of New Glasair. I own a Glasair 1 FT,
and I *still* get support from NG. That goes a long way in my book.
I am not a speed freak, I just want a reasonably fast
cross-country plane, and that's what I have. The GII and GIII
are improvements over my plane. Porches and Jeeps (a more
appropriate description of the Glastar/Sportsman) can mix,
and quite well, as New Glasair is demonstrating quite capably.
They are catering to both utilty and speed crowds, and doing it well.
I really don't see where your beef is. If you really hate NG that
much, go buy something else. That's your choice, but you don't
have to bash NG while you are doing it. From my perspective
they are doing a great job.
-Dj
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Jeff Siebenhaar <jeffs(at)ostari.com> |
There is certainly something to be said for both schools of thought. If I might
offer
another from someone who has inheirted a GIII project but has been in love with
them from
the moment I laid eyes on one. Because of that love I wish them to be around and
to prosper
through innovation. It is GREAT the NG is available to continue support of existing
owner/builders and I am sure there are many people as thankful as I am. The questions
that
occur to me are:
Does that current customer base provide enough revenue to insure stability at NG
?
Do the product offerings have sufficient interest to continue a long term revenue
stream
and thus viability of NG ?
Are there NEW products coming to increase the customer base ?
I continue to be able to gather some time in Glasair's from helpful owners ( we
have ~ 8 )
at my airport ( RHV ) which serve to significantly increase my motivation whenever
I have
had a ride. I differ in opinion that III drivers and GlasStar drivers are so different.
I
would consider a Sportsman on floats to be an excellant project. I like many other
pilots
enjoy fast, slow, acro or just tooling along whether in Cub or a III.
I ( being biased ) wish NG all the best with this and any other venture that brings
EXP-GA
to the real world.
Jeff Siebenhaar
Dj Merrill wrote:
>
> On Fri, 2004-01-16 at 16:22, N16cd(at)aol.com wrote:
> >
> > You may disagree with me, but thirteen years ago I built an Oshkosh winning
> > Glasair that I have traveled all over the US, Canada, Bahamas and have also
> > raced. I go to S&F every year and have been to the NG tent many times and have
> > witnessed things for myself. If you were a speed freak and offered a new Glasair
> > 111 or a new Lancair Legacy we know which one you would take. Lancair
> > Legacies drivers love waxing the asses of Glasair 111 drivers. I receive many
E-Mails
> > from other Glasair builder/ owners. The disscussion I have with other Glasair
> > owners is the lack of NG inovation into the GLASAIR. Three drivers have no
> > interest in Glas Stars and are a completely different animal than a Glas Star
> > "sports man". You may have answered your own question when you talked about
the
> > Glas Star. Porsches and Escorts don't mix.
>
> I have no problem with us disagreeing - I'm sure there
> are many people out there that do not share my opinions... *grin*
> It just seems like you are taking a very limited view and only
> focusing on one aspect of New Glasair. I own a Glasair 1 FT,
> and I *still* get support from NG. That goes a long way in my book.
> I am not a speed freak, I just want a reasonably fast
> cross-country plane, and that's what I have. The GII and GIII
> are improvements over my plane. Porches and Jeeps (a more
> appropriate description of the Glastar/Sportsman) can mix,
> and quite well, as New Glasair is demonstrating quite capably.
> They are catering to both utilty and speed crowds, and doing it well.
> I really don't see where your beef is. If you really hate NG that
> much, go buy something else. That's your choice, but you don't
> have to bash NG while you are doing it. From my perspective
> they are doing a great job.
>
> -Dj
>
________________________________________________________________________________
Did I use the word "hate?" I reread what I wrote and couldn't find the word
hate. Energy, new technology and inovation is what I am talking about. I don't
settle on "resonable".
________________________________________________________________________________
It is nice to read an article that doesn't make personal attacks on me. Not
many people have the skill to fly a G111 in its present configuration. When Bob
Gravinsky was president, I had a conversation with a promising young engineer
on his staff. He developed the new carbon fiber wing for the Aurora. He
wanted to configure that new airfoil to the GL111. Not only would the wing be
stronger, it would have been lighter and faster. He also had redesigned the wing
fairings and other parts of the plane and wanted to offer this new design in
carbon fiber. And he wanted to offer speed modification for all the Gl1's, 2's
and 3's. Introducing carbon fiber would have lightened the GL111 by several
hundred pounds making it a more docile plane to take off and land. (lower
insurance rates) A side benefit would have been a more survivable plane in a crash.
People have accused me of hating NG. To the contrary, I have a very fast plane
that could be faster and better. What I don't want to see is NG go out of
business. I feel that the NG has to bring in the next generation of high
performance planes or they will fall by the wayside.
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Dj Merrill <deej(at)thayer.dartmouth.edu> |
N16cd(at)aol.com wrote:
>
>Did I use the word "hate?" I reread what I wrote and couldn't find the word
>hate. Energy, new technology and inovation is what I am talking about. I don't
>settle on "resonable".
>
>
>
>
Fair enough. I apologize if I inadvertantly misspoke.
No harm or foul intended.
-Dj
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "steve korney" <s_korney(at)hotmail.com> |
Don't forget all us G 1 drivers...We have been working on our own speed mods
since day one...
Best... Steve
Check out the new MSN 9 Dial-up fast & reliable Internet access with prime
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Neal Garvin" <ngarvin(at)comcast.net> |
Hey, I recognize that tail number: Chuck/Debbie?
Your Glasair still flying? What part of the country are you in?
Neal Garvin
Glasair SIIS-RG N15F
Avon, CT
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of
N16cd(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Glasair-List: Re:
Don't make the mistake of parting out the kit. You may be left with very
expensive parts nobody wants. I would advertise in Trade A Plane because you
would
have world wide exposure. Purchasing a complete kit from a private party is
more desirable rather than purchasing a kit from the company. The reason is,
the buyer has less risk off losing their money. Since taking over the assets
of
Stoddard Hamilton, The New Glas Air has done nothing to improve the Glasair
line. Many feel that the company is in a state of stagnation and it will
only be
a matter of time before the line becomes stale, slower in speed and
outdated.
On the other hand, Van's aircraft and Lancair constantly offer new products
and speed modifications to their aircraft. When you go to Sun and Fun look
where all the action is...at Lancair and Vans Aircraft!!. The New Glasair
tent
appears to be vacant, quiet and downbeat. Many feel The NewGlasair missed a
great opprotunity to come forth with a new generation of high performance
aircraft. Ask The New Glasair about carbon fiber, speed fairings and
cowlings and all
you get is a tired blank stare.
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | st.ellison(at)comcast.net |
Subject: | G-III for sale or ??? |
The Glasair III that I have is kit #3191 which was produced in 1989.
It includes the complete kit with everything. The only items that should be needed
are the prop, interior and paint.
Fuse is assembled with stab mounted and elevator attached. Rudder is finished and
attached also. Rudder pedals, header tank, firewall, and motor mount are also
installed. Wing is very near being ready to close with the exception of the
slotted flaps needing to be installed.
Kit options include slotted flap kit, electric flap kit, wing tips extension kit
w/fuel system, Future vision instrument panel, stailess steel exhaust, oil cooler,
engine baffle kit, engine mount, vacuum kit, electric trim, woodward prop
governor, nav/strobe kit, antemma kits for all equipment, 90 degree induction
elbow, ++++.
Engine is IO-540K1J5 with 0-SMOH by Columbia Aviation (certified engine).
Panel is a factory assembled Future Vision Panel from SH at a cost of over $43K.
Includes autopilot, HSI, EPI etc. KNS-80, KLN-88, KR-87, KMA-24, KT-76A, KX-155,
KY-197A, Century 2000 autopilot, KA-84, KA-60, KA-44B, EPI 800, EPI fuel
sensor, gyro slave amp, flux detector, Chronometer, ++
Price is $69K if you like to negotiate and $65K if you don't. Over $120K has been
spent on this very complete kit. Great workmanship so far.
I still might change my mind and have it finished but I'm losing my enthusiasm,
maybe I just need a little G-III flight time to get back in the swing!!!
Pictures on request.
Steve Ellison
________________________________________________________________________________
Is'nt a sad comentary that the "owners" have to work on speed modifications
instead of NG.
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Steve Thomas <lists(at)stevet.net> |
Hello N16cd,
Saturday, January 17, 2004, 7:18:30 AM, you wrote:
Nac> Is'nt a sad comentary that the "owners" have to work on speed modifications
Nac> instead of NG.
Enough already! We know how you feel. Many others have a different
opinion and your diatribe won't change that.
--
Best regards,
Steve
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Dj Merrill <deej(at)thayer.dartmouth.edu> |
Subject: | Re: G-III for sale or ??? |
st.ellison(at)comcast.net wrote:
> I still might change my mind and have it finished but I'm losing my enthusiasm,
maybe I just need a little G-III flight time to get back in the swing!!!
This sounds like the best option!
Anyone near you ?
-Dj
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Dj Merrill <deej(at)thayer.dartmouth.edu> |
N16cd(at)aol.com wrote:
>
> Is'nt a sad comentary that the "owners" have to work on speed modifications
> instead of NG.
I consider it one of the great advantages of
having an experimental aircraft... *grin*
-Dj
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: | Re: G-III for sale or ??? |
A lot of people have burn out at the stage you are at. You have to get a
second wind and push on. Don't think about the end, just do the tasks at hand.
Believe it or not, around six months after your project is completed your life
will appear empty and you may start to have "withdrawal" symptoms and may think
about another project! Also, consider the financial losses, a completed plane
has far more value than a project. Building a plane is a love pain
relationship. After it is completed all of the pain will be forgotten. Think of
this:
Early one morning I flew my Glasair over a 14,000 foot Glacier clad mountain
while traveling through the Rocky Mountains. One spring, while cruising off the
Georgia coast line, I once picked up a low level Jet Stream and had a ground
speed of 350 mph. Control reported me as ; "A BD Jet!" Last spring, while
traveling through north Florida, I flew through a cloud saddle that was flanked
by
two 40,000 foot high thunderstorms. The saddle I flew over was 17,000 feet
high. Last July 4th I flew through Washington, Baltimore, New Jersey and Manhattan
airspace at 13,500 feet while telling admiring airline captains, that where
below me, about my plane.
________________________________________________________________________________
Delete..next
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From: | st.ellison(at)comcast.net |
Subject: | Re: G-III for sale or ??? |
I just moved from Illinois to Salem, Oregon and don't know who around here would
have a completed G-III. Any names in the area that any of you might know of?
>
> st.ellison(at)comcast.net wrote:
>
>
> > I still might change my mind and have it finished but I'm losing my
> enthusiasm, maybe I just need a little G-III flight time to get back in the
> swing!!!
>
>
> This sounds like the best option!
> Anyone near you ?
>
> -Dj
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "dave schultz" <dhschultz39(at)earthlink.net> |
Subject: | potential problem - TD1 ser #433 |
just getting back in saddle building on old TD-1.
saw or heard some months / a year ago that when somebody drilled a new hole into
their forward bulkhead behind the firewall, they ended up with powder spilling/coming
out due to the "rohacell" foam (mod for improved fire/heat resistance
issued by stoddard hamilton more than a decade ago) becoming pulverized.
i'm at point of mounting metal firewall in front of the forward bulkhead and hanging
engine - don't want to proceed if sandwiched bulkhead won't be functional
sometime in future.
anybody seen/had this experience, and if so what was the fix?
new subject - anybody with recommendations on install of ellison throttle-body
(vs. marvel schlebler carb) on o-320 d3g (160 hp, controllable pitch prop)?
thanks
r/dhschultz
bremerton, wa
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: | Re: potential problem - TD1 ser #433 |
I had a nose gear failure on a GL2S and had to open up that area to repair
the firewall bulk head and support ribs. Six and one half years and 500 hours
flying time had passed since I took delivery of the kit. The material looked
just as good as new. If that fire retardant has broken down, you have to replace
it. You must have received a bad batch because I have never heard of that
before.
Good luck
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Bruce Gray" <Bruce(at)glasair.org> |
In reply to your earlier post about slow Glasairs, have you seen the
following?
Bruce
www.glasair.org
***********************
As reported on www.Aero-News.net:
Competition Heating Up For '04 Reno Sport Class
In preparation for the Reno National Championship Air Races, top Sport
Class racers often use the R.A.C.E. Cross Country Air Racing event
series to test their speed improvements, and that of their competitors.
Based upon the speeds at the recent Mesquite, Nevada R.A.C.E. event, it
looks like Reno 2004 will be an exciting year for the Sport Class! At
this event, the fastest known normally aspirated Lancair Legacy (owned
and piloted by Lee Behel) and the fastest known normally aspirated
Glasair III (owned and piloted by Mike Jones) were on hand to battle it
out for first place. Over this 120 mile course, Lee Behel posted an
average speed of 306.02 mph in his Lancair Legacy, with Mike Jones right
on his tail in his Glasair III, averaging 305.35 mph. Klaus Savier
posted a speed of 249.16 mph in his highly modified Vari Eze, and Dean
Berry came in at 227.56 mph in his Harmon Rocket II.
With only 0.7 mph difference in speed between Lee Behel's Legacy (note
the rear-view mirror in his cockpit, above) and Mike Jones' Glasair III
over a 120 mile course, it looks like Sport Class racing at Reno 2004
will be very exciting, not only for Mike, Lee, and the folks at Lancair
and Glasair, but also for all of us in the stands! (Lee, Mike and other
Sport Class racers will again be competing against each other again at
the upcoming R.A.C.E. event on May 30th, at Wendover, Nevada.)
The 2004 Reno National Championship Air Races will take place September
16 thru 19, 2004. For those who intend to enter and race their aircraft
in the Sport Class, Pylon Racing School is scheduled for June 17 thru
20, 2004.
FMI: www.sportclass.com, Mike Jones (SCAR President) --
WSW10(at)sbcglobal.net, Shirl Dickey -- mreracer(at)tabletoptelephone.com
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: | Re: potential problem - TD1 ser #433 |
Why Bother? I got all the parts to go fuel injection from an outfit in
Florida for about the same money. Even the slightest negative will stop the Marvel
from delivering fuel. Never had problems with the Bendix system. Glasair1TD
Vic Jaugilas
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: | Re: Need for Speed |
After installing a turbo prop engine into a GL111 Bob Gravinsky said:" I
didn't get the speed I wanted because of a wing fairing turbulence problem. Not
only could I hear the buffeting, I could feel it. The wing fairings for the
Glasair line are wrong!!" Reno is more luck than any thing else. A slight
mishandling of the controls, bad wake turbulence and what ever will make huge
differences in performance. A ten mile straight run will give more accurate results.
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: | Re: Need for Speed |
From: | Dj Merrill <deej(at)thayer.dartmouth.edu> |
On Mon, 2004-01-19 at 11:11, N16cd(at)aol.com wrote:
> Reno is more luck than any thing else. A slight
> mishandling of the controls, bad wake turbulence and what ever will make huge
> differences in performance. A ten mile straight run will give more accurate results.
I know very little about airplane racing, so this
should be considered a newbie question.
Wouldn't a trangular course be more accurate for measuring
overall speed? At least I remember reading something about
this when measuring speed with a GPS or similar...
It would seem to me that racing is racing, regardless
of the vehicle, so mishandling of controls etc is
just part of the game. If the pilot, race car driver,
sail boat captain, whatever, is really good, they don't
make those mistakes. If they do, they lose the race... *smile*
-Dj
--
Dj Merrill Thayer School of Engineering
ThUG Sr. Unix Systems Administrator 8000 Cummings Hall
deej(at)thayer.dartmouth.edu - N1JOV Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH 03755
"On the side of the software box, in the 'System Requirements' section,
it said 'Requires Windows 95 or better'. So I installed Linux."
-Anonymous
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: | Re: Need for Speed |
Everyone knows that the Legacy had engine problems and still beat the GL111
even though running on only four cylinders.
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Bruce Gray" <Bruce(at)glasair.org> |
You just can't seem to accept verifiable data can you? Given equal
horsepower the Legacy and Glasair III are the same speed.
Bruce
www.glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
N16cd(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Glasair-List: Need for Speed
Everyone knows that the Legacy had engine problems and still beat the
GL111
even though running on only four cylinders.
==
==
==
==
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Dj Merrill <deej(at)thayer.dartmouth.edu> |
Subject: | Re: Need for Speed |
N16cd(at)aol.com wrote:
>
> Everyone knows that the Legacy had engine problems and still beat the GL111
> even though running on only four cylinders.
I didn't know about any engine problems
(and I at least like to think I am someone... *grin*).
Can you post any references to confirm this?
-Dj
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "David Stroud" <davestroud(at)rogers.com> |
Subject: | Re: 310 hp Lyc for sale |
Subject: 310 hp Lyc for sale
Good morning lads. Sorry for this one time intrusion to the list. I have a friend
with two, Lycoming 310 hp
TIO540A2C engines for sale. 700 SMOH, complete firewall forward inlcuding mount
and controls, less props
as removed. Props available separately. Offers are requested from interested
parties..failing that, they'll go to ebay.
Please email me privately if interested. I think it will be a bargain. Thanks.
Dave Stroud
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Bobby Sather" <sather(at)charter.net> |
Subject: | Re: 310 hp Lyc for sale |
He needs to establish his low dollar price.
bobby
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Stroud" <davestroud(at)rogers.com>
Subject: Glasair-List: Re: 310 hp Lyc for sale
>
>
> Subject: 310 hp Lyc for sale
>
>
> Good morning lads. Sorry for this one time intrusion to the list. I have
a friend with two, Lycoming 310 hp
> TIO540A2C engines for sale. 700 SMOH, complete firewall forward
inlcuding mount and controls, less props
> as removed. Props available separately. Offers are requested from
interested parties..failing that, they'll go to ebay.
> Please email me privately if interested. I think it will be a bargain.
Thanks.
>
> Dave Stroud
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "David Stroud" <davestroud(at)rogers.com> |
Subject: | Re: 310 hp Lyc for sale |
I've got him working on his best price right now, Bobby.
Are you interested in one? Thanks.
Dave Stroud
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bobby Sather" <sather(at)charter.net>
Subject: Re: Glasair-List: Re: 310 hp Lyc for sale
>
> He needs to establish his low dollar price.
> bobby
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Stroud" <davestroud(at)rogers.com>
> To:
> Subject: Glasair-List: Re: 310 hp Lyc for sale
>
>
> >
> >
> > Subject: 310 hp Lyc for sale
> >
> >
> > Good morning lads. Sorry for this one time intrusion to the list. I
have
> a friend with two, Lycoming 310 hp
> > TIO540A2C engines for sale. 700 SMOH, complete firewall forward
> inlcuding mount and controls, less props
> > as removed. Props available separately. Offers are requested from
> interested parties..failing that, they'll go to ebay.
> > Please email me privately if interested. I think it will be a bargain.
> Thanks.
> >
> > Dave Stroud
> >
> >
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Bobby Sather" <sather(at)charter.net> |
Subject: | Re: 310 hp Lyc for sale |
Possibly one for a Rocket
Thanks
Bobby
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Stroud" <davestroud(at)rogers.com>
Subject: Re: Glasair-List: Re: 310 hp Lyc for sale
>
> I've got him working on his best price right now, Bobby.
> Are you interested in one? Thanks.
>
> Dave Stroud
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bobby Sather" <sather(at)charter.net>
> To:
> Subject: Re: Glasair-List: Re: 310 hp Lyc for sale
>
>
> >
> > He needs to establish his low dollar price.
> > bobby
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David Stroud" <davestroud(at)rogers.com>
> > To:
> > Subject: Glasair-List: Re: 310 hp Lyc for sale
> >
> >
>
> > >
> > >
> > > Subject: 310 hp Lyc for sale
> > >
> > >
> > > Good morning lads. Sorry for this one time intrusion to the list. I
> have
> > a friend with two, Lycoming 310 hp
> > > TIO540A2C engines for sale. 700 SMOH, complete firewall forward
> > inlcuding mount and controls, less props
> > > as removed. Props available separately. Offers are requested from
> > interested parties..failing that, they'll go to ebay.
> > > Please email me privately if interested. I think it will be a
bargain.
> > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Dave Stroud
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "R&R Sherwood" <sherwood(at)houston.rr.com> |
Subject: | Glasair I RG - first flight |
On 17 Jan. 2004 my 11 year project transformed from a terrestrial bound vehicle
and took to the sky with me and my pounding heart as a passenger.
This Glasair I RG is powered by a Subaru SVX ( 230 H.P. six cylinder ) engine.
She climbed and handled well. For the first flight, I kept the landing gear
down and the speeds low. High oil temperatures cut the flight short.....am working
on some fixes....hope to be back in the air in this weekend.
Russell & Rhea Sherwood
Houston, TX
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Wayne Cahoon @ Aircraft Engravers" <wayne(at)engravers.net> |
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Subject: | Re: Fuel Cap Engraving, Labeling, Indentifying |
Wayne, I tried using you for engraving once before and you never got back to
me...remember? I do.
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Wayne Cahoon @ Aircraft Engravers" <wayne(at)engravers.net> |
Subject: | Re: Fuel Cap Engraving, Labeling, Indentifying |
> N16CD said:
> Wayne, I tried using you for engraving once before and you never got back
to me...remember? I do.
No, I don't. Could you help me out by telling me who you are? I looked into
my phone log and quoted jobs folder and couldn't find anything on N16CD. If
it was more than a year ago and we had any correspondence by email then that
was all lost in a virus attack. Even though we were using Norton anti-virus
software, someone had to be first on the list to get attacked before they
can defend against it.
I'm truly sorry that we did not respond to you for whatever reason. That is
not typical of our company. We have been in business for about 15 years and
value each and every customer. From Ken Johnson's Glasair III project in
1993 which won each and every competition it entered to Bruce Gray's panel
work we are doing now and all those in between shows our commitment to do
quality work for the Glasair owners.
Wayne Cahoon
Aircraft Engravers
(860) 653-2780
(860) 653-7324 Fax
http://engravers.net/
----- Original Message -----
From: <N16cd(at)aol.com>
Subject: Re: Glasair-List: Fuel Cap Engraving, Labeling, Indentifying
>
> Wayne, I tried using you for engraving once before and you never got back
to
> me...remember? I do.
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From: | "Cory Emberson" <bootless(at)earthlink.net> |
Subject: | Request: Information for Kitplanes Article (Instrument Panels) |
Hello!
I am writing an article for Kitplanes magazines that will feature builders who
have put interesting panels in their planes. I've received the Digest version
of the Glasair list for about a year, but have never posted before.
My deadline is rather short, so if you could email me as soon as possible, hopefully
by Monday, that will give me enough time to put it together.
Here are some of the criteria I'm looking for:
Instrument Panels that are (one or any combination):
1. creative
2. inexpensive
3. nontraditional configuration
4. nontraditional equipment
5. easier to use
6. enhanced safety (maybe the configuration made a significant difference in troubleshooting/recognizing
a problem, or in putting the plane down safely because
of its ease of use)
7. generally cool and different
8. anything else distinctive about it.
Other things to keep in mind:
1. How you came to design your panel (How you got your idea)
2. The reasons why you did it as you did
3. What benefits you had in mind
4. Any unexpected benefits (and/or pitfalls) there were
5. What you learned
6. How many hours you've flown with it (if completed)
7. How it's performed
8. The equipment and tools you used
9. How much time it took to build and install
10. Whether it took any professional or amateur assistance
11. The cost of building it.
Here are the photo requirements for Kitplanes: Photos must be 300 dpi at a size
large enough to use in the magazine, which is usually at least 3 x 3 inches.
If an image is 300 dpi at 1 x 1 inch, it won't be big enough to do any good.
By the way, I will be compiling another roundup in early March for distinctive
(etc.) interiors and/or exteriors, so if you would like to contact me about that
one, I'd love to hear from you!
Thanks so much - I really appreciate your help!
best regards,
Cory Emberson
Hayward, CA [KHWD]
510.599.4409
cory(at)lightspeededit.com
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From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
DNA: not not archive
Subject: | [PLEASE READ] Virus Laden Spam Purports To Be From Matronics... |
Dear Listers,
First let me say that I normally don't condone the sharing of warnings
about Internet viruses on the Matronics Email Lists. I don't want to
start a storm of discussion regarding computer viruses on the Lists, so
please just note the information below and refrain from commenting to
the List. The circumstances I describe below are disturbing enough
that I felt an explanation is necessary. That being said...
There is a new email-bourne virus running rampant on the Internet that
is cleverly disguising itself as legitimate email warning of such
things as:
"your email account is disabled because of unauthorized access"
"Some of our clients complained about the spam (negative e-mail
content) outgoing from your e-mail account"
"Probably, you have been infected by a proxy-relay trojan server. In
order to keep your computer safe, follow the instructions."
"Our main mailing server will be temporary unavailable for next two
days, to continue receiving mail in these days you have to
configure our free auto-forwarding service."
All of these messages include an attachment that you are instructed to
click upon to "Get more information", "clean the virus from your
system", or "check your system for infections".
These enclosures all contain a virus that will infect your system and
propagate even more copies of the original message.
The disturbing part of these messages is that they appear to be coming
from very legitimate addresses and have very legitimate, convincing
dialog. For example, I have received a number of them today that
appear to be from "support(at)matronics.com", "management(at)matronics.com",
"administration(at)matronics.com", and "staff(at)matronics.com".
The text of the messages seems believable enough, and given the forged
source address, seem even more legitimate.
Please be assured that no one at Matronics.com will be sending you
these kinds of messages. If you receive one, it is a spam/virus that
has forged headers and was sent to you from someone other than
Matronics. Delete the message and the attachment promptly. Invest in
a copy of Norton Antivirus and keep the definitions up dated on a daily
basis.
Again, I want to stress that I *DO NOT* want a big discussion of
viruses on the Matronics Email Lists. Please do not reply to this
email with any comments. You may write to me directly at
dralle(at)matronics.com if you wish, but do not include the List.
Since many of these appear to come from matronics.com, I wanted to
assure everyone that Matronics wasn't the real source of these messages.
Let's be careful out there and keep those virus definitions up to date!
Today alone, the Matronics spam filter and virus blocking appliance
has filtered out 11,550 spam messages and 375 viruses! That's just in
an 18 hour period!
Best regards,
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From: | "Cory Emberson" <bootless(at)earthlink.net> |
Subject: | Request: Information for Kitplanes Article (Interiors/Exteriors) |
Hello!
I am writing an article for Kitplanes magazine that will feature builders who have
distinctive interiors and/or exteriors.
My deadline is rather short, so if you could email me as soon as possible, hopefully
by Tuesday, that will give me enough time to put it together.
Here are some of the criteria I'm looking for:
Interiors that are (one or any combination):
1. creative
2. inexpensive
3. very comfortable
4. lightweight
5. generally cool and different
6. distinctive in some way.
Exteriors that are:
1.. stunningly attractive
2.. original design
3.. historically accurate
4.. distinctive in some way
Other things to keep in mind:
1. How you came to design your interior/exterior (How you got your idea)
2. The reasons why you did it as you did
3. What benefits you had in mind
4. Any unexpected benefits (and/or pitfalls) there were
5. What you learned
6. How many hours you've flown with it (if completed)
7. How much of the work did you do yourself?
8. Did you have any professional assistance? How much?
9. The equipment and tools you used
10. How much time it took to build and install
11. The cost of building it.
12. Would you do it again the same way? Why?
Here are the photo requirements for Kitplanes: Photos must be 300 dpi at a size
large enough to use in the magazine, which is usually at least 3 x 3 inches.
If an image is 300 dpi at 1 x 1 inch, it won't be big enough to do any good. Hard
copy photos are good, too.
Thanks so much - I really appreciate your help!
best regards,
Cory Emberson
Hayward, CA [KHWD]
510.599.4409
cory(at)lightspeededit.com
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From: | "Cory Emberson" <bootless(at)earthlink.net> |
Subject: | Santa Maria CA Fly-in (April 30-May 2) |
Hello everyone!
With Matt Dralle's blessing (thank you, Matt!), I'm pleased to post this announcement
for a terrific aviation fly-in weekend. SMXgig (in Santa Maria, CA) has
become the year's largest face-to-face get-together of electronically networked
aviators. We hope you'll plan to attend because we expect this year's gig to
be the best ever.
People come from all over the country (and sometimes overseas) to attend, and most of the sessions qualify for FAA Wings cards. The dates are 4/30-5/2/04 (Friday-Sunday) - it's a lot of fun, and a great chance for pilots from all over to mingle and share aviation stories, ideas, etc. The announcement below contains most of the crucial information, and you can get the rest from the website (www.smxgig.org). If you have any questions at all, just let me know, and thanks!
~~Cory Emberson
KHWD
>>> NOTICE TO AIRMEN! <<<
Announcing the Sixteenth Annual SMXgig
to be held on April 30 - May 2, 2004
at the Radisson on the Santa Maria (CA) Airport (aka SMX)
www.smxgig.org
SMXgig will be April 30 - May 2, 2004, at the Santa Maria Radisson. This year,
our featured speaker after Friday night's dinner will be Rod Machado!
"MACH 2 WITH MACHADO" is the byline Rod Machado has earned for his rapid fire delivery
at his lively safety seminars and keynote speeches. His programs are information-packed,
energetic, and humorous. He has spoken in all fifty of the
United States and in Europe sharing his fresh approach to aviation education.
If you can make it, please do. It's going to be pretty special. More information and the announcement/ registration info is available at www.smxgig.org You may also contact me by email at: cory(at)smxgig.org.
All technical sessions will be held in the Enterprise Ballroom at the SMX Radisson.
Each session will last about an hour. We schedule four tech sessions on Saturday
morning, and four on Sunday morning. Most of the speakers are set (I'm
still firming up a couple of slots - I'm working on a session about Experimentals):
MIKE BUSCH - The Art and Science of Troubleshooting
Your A frequently, that person is you. That's particularly true of problems that
occur only in-flight and/or are intermittent. This session offers methodology
for troubleshooting aimed at aircraft owners who aren't A&Ps.
ED WILLIAMS - GPS - How It Works, and How to Work It
Ed is a nuclear physicist working at Lawrence Livermore Labs. Ed does a
remarkable job of making physics phun!
BRENT BLUE, M.D. - Pilot Medicals: How to Avoid Problems with the FAA
Brent is an AME Advocate, who specializes in helping the tough cases renew their
medicals. He's a former member of EAA's medical advisory committee.
DOUG RITTER - Equipping Yourself To Survive - Personal Survival Gear for Pilots
Doug is a survival evangelist, personally driven to help pilots live through whatever comes next. www.equipped.org
PAUL MILLNER - The Future of Avgas
Paul works with ChevronTexaco, and is right in the middle of the industry developments
regarding our fuel of choice.
MARY DUFFY & UWE LEMKE - Flying in Europe
Mary and Uwe are a Scot and a German who live in the San Francisco Bay Area, but
return "home" often.
As always, each qualifying session will get you a WINGS Safety Session card.
Our Saturday evening event should be a delicious one! At 5:45 p.m., the BFUB (Big Fat Ugly Bus) will arrive at the Santa Maria Radisson to bring us to the Far Western Tavern for dinner in beautiful Guadalupe (www.farwesterntavern.com).
DOLLARS AND CENTS
Just as in previous years, there will be one flat all-encompassing "gig" fee that
covers all events that involve significant out-of-pocket costs for the organizers.
The fee is $160 per person, and will cover:
- Friday afternoon welcome party
- Friday evening dinner banquet
- Saturday and Sunday tech sessions
- Saturday afternoon lunch
- Saturday evening dinner at the Far Western Tavern in Guadalupe
- Meeting rooms and coffee service at the Santa Maria Radisson
- Transportation to (and from) the Far Western Tavern
Lodging at the SMX Radisson will cost $89.00/night for either a single or double
room, which is far below the regular hotel room rate. Be sure you check in as
a SMXgig attendee and get the special rate. We have our definitive preference
listed with the hotel for rampside rooms - early registration can only help,
but of course, the rampside rooms are subject to availability depending on how
many existing guests are in those rooms.
You do not need to register with the hotel - just give me your preferences, and
I will take care of the reservations.
Important: This year, our final rooming lists are due to the hotel on April 11,
2004 (the even of Sun 'n Fun), which will guarantee space and the group rate.
The hotel will accept additional room reservations after that, on a space- and
rate-available basis. They will try their best to accommodate us after that
date, but the hotel is already sold out for the weekend.
The website (www.smxgig.org) has detailed information about the schedule, meals, hotel accommodations, and online registration. If you'd like your own announcement/registration emailed to you, or have any other questions, just let me know. (cory(at)smxgig.org or bootless(at)earthlink.net ).
Thanks, and see you there!
best, Cory Emberson
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From: | jnmarkey(at)icongrp.com |
Subject: | RE: Nose Wheel Shimmy |
Greetings to the list:
I recently put my wheel pants on for the first time on my Glasair II.
I began to notice some shimmying on landing, and the last landing was
an eye opener. I thought the front gear was coming off and executed a
soft field landing technique to keep the plane straight on the runway.
I am checking the gear and mountings for integrity, and I will remove
the front wheel pant and check the main bolt etc. I am also toying
with ideas to add dampening.
Has anyone experienced this? Solutions?
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From: | Dj Merrill <deej(at)thayer.dartmouth.edu> |
Subject: | Re: RE: Nose Wheel Shimmy |
jnmarkey(at)icongrp.com wrote:
>
> Greetings to the list:
>
> I recently put my wheel pants on for the first time on my Glasair II.
> I began to notice some shimmying on landing, and the last landing was
> an eye opener. I thought the front gear was coming off and executed a
> soft field landing technique to keep the plane straight on the runway.
>
> I am checking the gear and mountings for integrity, and I will remove
> the front wheel pant and check the main bolt etc. I am also toying
> with ideas to add dampening.
>
> Has anyone experienced this? Solutions?
Yes, I had to tighten the bolt that
adjust the friction for the wheel swivel
so that there was a noticeable resistance
when trying to swivel the wheel by hand.
That fixed the problem - so far about 60 hours
since then with no troubles.
-Dj
--
Dj Merrill Thayer School of Engineering
ThUG Sr. Unix Systems Administrator 8000 Cummings Hall
deej(at)thayer.dartmouth.edu - N1JOV Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH 03755
"On the side of the software box, in the 'System Requirements' section,
it said 'Requires Windows 95 or better'. So I installed Linux." -Anonymous
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From: | Dj Merrill <deej(at)thayer.dartmouth.edu> |
Subject: | Re: RE: Nose Wheel Shimmy |
jnmarkey(at)icongrp.com wrote:
> I recently put my wheel pants on for the first time on my Glasair II.
> I began to notice some shimmying on landing, and the last landing was
> an eye opener. I thought the front gear was coming off and executed a
> soft field landing technique to keep the plane straight on the runway.
I should note that I have a Glasair I FT, not a II.
I think the nose gear is similar, though.
-Dj
--
Dj Merrill Thayer School of Engineering
ThUG Sr. Unix Systems Administrator 8000 Cummings Hall
deej(at)thayer.dartmouth.edu - N1JOV Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH 03755
"On the side of the software box, in the 'System Requirements' section,
it said 'Requires Windows 95 or better'. So I installed Linux." -Anonymous
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Subject: | Re: RE: Nose Wheel Shimmy |
Yup, low tire pressure will cause a shimmy. You need 60 pounds in the tire.
The front clutch must be tightened until it takes twenty pounds of force to
move the wheel assembly.
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Subject: | Re: RE: Nose Wheel Shimmy |
Check the bolts that hold the two trunions to the fire wall ribs.
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | MPPalmer(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Re: Glasair-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 04/01/04 |
Welcome to the club. Friction pad can become oil soaked from runoff from the
engine down the strut. I wrote in the old GlasairNews about a little
aluminum piece I epoxied on the strut to make the drips fall aft of the friction
pad.
No wait, I think S/H published it in a SB release with my idea.
In the old Newses, the factory mentioned that geometry played a big role with
shimmy. When the nose gear shock absorbers begin to sag, the geometry on the
front pivot changes to resemble a grocery cart gone bad. Have to shim up the
shocks, or better yet, change over to the new shocks that aren't as
susceptible to oil soak and collapse. Hard to describe n words, but you want the
bottom of the pivot to be more aft than the top of the pivot.
After 1000 hours, I replaced the long bolt in the nose gear trunnion along
with the bushings. The bolt had begun to neck down. Really, there's not enough
contact area with those dinky bushings in the nose gear upper pivot. The
better solution would be a long sleeve bushing that runs the length of the tube
to distribute the forces. The slightest play up there is magnified
tremendously as side to side play down at the nose wheel.
I suspect wheel balance too. I replaced our tire with new from Spruce, did
the red dot thing and had occasionally shimmy. My easy soln was to just
tighten the friction pad more, but the better soln would probably have been to
move
the dot around to find a better balance.
We had shimmy once so bad that I had to fix some fiberglass on the fairing.
Those front bolts on the fairing also bend easily during shimmy, so check and
replace as necessary.
Hope this helps,
Mike Palmer <><
Excellence in Ergonomics
> I am checking the gear and mountings for integrity, and I will remove
> the front wheel pant and check the main bolt etc. I am also toying
> with ideas to add dampening.
>
> Has anyone experienced this? Solutions?
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Subject: | Re: Glasair-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 04/01/04 |
Ditto. I am still "tuning" the tension on my nosewheel nut. When I tighten
it enough to avoid shimmy altogether, it taxis like a drunken sailor.
Jim Oberst
Super II FT
----- Original Message -----
From: <MPPalmer(at)aol.com>
Subject: Glasair-List: Re: Glasair-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 04/01/04
>
> Welcome to the club. Friction pad can become oil soaked from runoff from
the
> engine down the strut. I wrote in the old GlasairNews about a little
> aluminum piece I epoxied on the strut to make the drips fall aft of the
friction pad.
> No wait, I think S/H published it in a SB release with my idea.
>
> In the old Newses, the factory mentioned that geometry played a big role
with
> shimmy. When the nose gear shock absorbers begin to sag, the geometry on
the
> front pivot changes to resemble a grocery cart gone bad. Have to shim up
the
> shocks, or better yet, change over to the new shocks that aren't as
> susceptible to oil soak and collapse. Hard to describe n words, but you
want the
> bottom of the pivot to be more aft than the top of the pivot.
>
> After 1000 hours, I replaced the long bolt in the nose gear trunnion along
> with the bushings. The bolt had begun to neck down. Really, there's not
enough
> contact area with those dinky bushings in the nose gear upper pivot. The
> better solution would be a long sleeve bushing that runs the length of the
tube
> to distribute the forces. The slightest play up there is magnified
> tremendously as side to side play down at the nose wheel.
>
> I suspect wheel balance too. I replaced our tire with new from Spruce,
did
> the red dot thing and had occasionally shimmy. My easy soln was to just
> tighten the friction pad more, but the better soln would probably have
been to move
> the dot around to find a better balance.
>
> We had shimmy once so bad that I had to fix some fiberglass on the
fairing.
> Those front bolts on the fairing also bend easily during shimmy, so check
and
> replace as necessary.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Mike Palmer <><
> Excellence in Ergonomics
>
> > I am checking the gear and mountings for integrity, and I will remove
> > the front wheel pant and check the main bolt etc. I am also toying
> > with ideas to add dampening.
> >
> > Has anyone experienced this? Solutions?
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: | Re: Glasair-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 04/01/04 |
Sounds like it's a little to tight.
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From: | MPPalmer(at)aol.com |
Subject: | FT nose gear shimmy |
> Sounds like it's a little to tight.
Agreed. I forget the details of this shimmy problem. I assume everything
was okay for a while and then started recently?
We noticed the shimmy when braking thru about 40 KIAS on landing. I did all
the things I reported last time, and mitigated. The last thing I did which
stopped it for good was to really shim those new nose strut shocks. IIRC, they
calling for something like 3/8" shims top and bottom! (Require longer thru
bolts.) I had to get the instructions from Cliff for the new shocks. If you're
still running the old back to back welded Corvair engine mounts, you don't
have the new shocks.
If you're getting shimmy all the time, there's a wheel balance problem
(bearing bad?) or sagging geometry. Or a broken part.
Might want to try a new nose tire. (I assume you've taken the nose pivot
assembly apart and used copious amounts of brake cleaner on the friction pad?)
Or maybe the tube is ballooning inside?
We've done well for 1500 hours and it was only after changing the nose gear
tire (the Spruce Chinese manufacture) that we started having problems. I still
suspect the tire is out of balance, but since the problem has gone away,
haven't played with trying to achieve a static balance.
Hope this helps,
Mike Palmer <><
Excellence in Ergonomics
2035 hrs, Glasair 1 + 1/2 (Part GI, Part GII)
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Subject: | Re: FT nose gear shimmy |
I get a nose wheel shimmy when my nose wheel tire pressure is low. I have to
keep 50 to 60 pounds of tire pressure in order to not have a shimmy problem.
Note: I had one of those pesky engine oil leaks that took me for ever to
find. It turned out to be a broken flange on one of the cylinder rocker valve
chamber oil return lines. The aluminum flange was broken inside of the coupling
sleeve.
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From: | "Troy Scott" <tscott1217(at)bellsouth.net> |
Subject: | two propeller mounting questions |
Folks,
I'm almost ready to hang my 68 inch Hartzell prop (des. # F7068-2) on my
IO360B1E. I've removed the plastic cap from the forward end of the hollow
crankshaft of my pickled engine. I see, about five inches aft of the
forward face of the starter ring, a small tube about 5/16 inch in diameter
running perpendicular to the hollow crankshaft. It has an opening in one
side, presumably for the passage of oil. Also in the hollow crankshaft,
about an inch aft of the small tube, is what looks like a plug. Is this as
it should be for my constant speed propeller to function properly? I ask
because not long ago I read somewhere that a builder had "wasted a year"
trying to find why his prop didn't cycle properly. He finally discovered
that a plug hadn't been removed....
Now for another problem: I've been trying to install the spinner backing
plate on my hub. My instructions were probably written before the 68 inch
prop existed. It looks to me like I need to trim some material away from
the flat part of the back plate. There is no mention of this in my
instructions, but they do mention trimming the flange for propeller blade
clearance. On page G-206, revision S2-C, 5/15/97, I'm told to install 3/8
inch spacers between the hub and the back plate. When I try to install the
back plate, the plate bumps into the prop hub. It appears that I need to
remove some material from the back plate to allow the back plate to move
forward and touch the 3/8 inch spacers. If the 3/8 inch dimension for the
spacers is correct, apparently I need to remove enough material from the
plate to allow it to move forward .345 inch. Does this sound right? Does
this match your experience?
Regards,
Troy Scott
Glasair Super IISRG, N360TS
tscott1217(at)bellsouth.net
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From: | "Troy Scott" <tscott1217(at)bellsouth.net> |
Subject: | trim motor braking |
Gentlemen,
I've modified an electric elevator trim scheme (originally designed by Jim
Dutton) and installed it in my Glasair. I'm utilizing a DC reversible
linear actuator to operate a bellcrank, much like the stock
Stoddard-Hamilton design. It seems to work very well, meaning that it
imparts the same range of forces to the trim springs that the original
manual trim mechanism did. The airplane hasn't yet flown, but I see no
reason why it won't be fine. I notice one area that could be improved: The
motor doesn't stop instantly when the current is cut off. It "coasts"
briefly. I know there is an electrical way to make the motor stop quickly
when the current goes off, but I don't yet have any experience in this area.
I've read about "magnetic braking" and "DC motor braking", but I'm not sure
how to implement this feature. Suggestions?
Regards,
Troy Scott
Glasair Super IISRG, N360TS
tscott1217(at)bellsouth.net
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From: | MPPalmer(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Re: Glasair-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 04/26/04 |
Hello:
> I know there is an electrical way to make the motor stop quickly
> when the current goes off, but I don't yet have any experience in this
area.
> I've read about "magnetic braking" and "DC motor braking", but I'm not
sure
> how to implement this feature. Suggestions?
The way you make a motor stop instantly is to short the contacts when your
trim switch is in the off position. The way the old MAC trim servo folks did it
was to use two microswitches in a pseudo DPDT configuration that would short
the motor when in the neutral switch position. (The company changed hands and
is now Ray Allen. p 387 in current Spruce catalog.)
Know that's not much to go on, but if you can find a MAC switch and copy
their design, you've got it. (Or simply use a MAC switch!)
Hope this helps,
Mike Palmer <><
Excellence in Ergonomics
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From: | RiteAngle3(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Re: Glasair-repeat messages |
Sorry for the repeated messages, must have accidentally hit the send twice,
my computer is sure faster than my finger!
Elbie
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Fabian Lefler" <fablef(at)bellsouth.net> |
, ,
,
Subject: | Monroy ADT-300 Traffic Detector |
For the last couple of weeks, I have had a number of calls from builders
inquiring about the arrival of additional ADT-300 units. We sold out
our first batch fairly quickly, and have received a second batch.
However, it appears that the manufacturer can't seem to catch with the
demand fast enough, so we don't know how long they will be around for
those that interested.
If you are interested in finding out about the product, you can see can
click here http://www.affordablepanels.com/monroy300.htm
Regards,
Fabian Lefler
www.affordablepanels.com
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Dave" <dave(at)coltnet.net> |
Subject: | Glasair Fuselage |
Listers,
I just bought a complete unairworthy Glasair, I bought it for the engine and
gyros. I have a complete fuselage (I think it is complete) that has been
sitting out in the weather for a few years. Is it still worth anything?
Thanks
Dave
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Bruce Gray" <Bruce(at)glasair.org> |
Subject: | Glasair Fuselage |
What model Glasair fuselage?
Bruce
www.glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave
Subject: Glasair-List: Glasair Fuselage
Listers,
I just bought a complete unairworthy Glasair, I bought it for the engine
and
gyros. I have a complete fuselage (I think it is complete) that has been
sitting out in the weather for a few years. Is it still worth anything?
Thanks
Dave
==
==
==
==
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Dave" <dave(at)coltnet.net> |
Subject: | Re: Glasair Fuselage |
Bruce,
I wish I could tell you, I think it is a glasair I. It has passed through a
few hands since the original builder and the present owner before me doesn't
have any idea. Would Glasair TD be a model ? I would assume TD would be
taildragger, however it is a trigear. I hate to admit to this group I am
building a metal airplane. RV type (Please don't flame :-))
Thanks
Dave
> What model Glasair fuselage?
>
> Bruce
> www.glasair.org
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave
> To: glasair-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Glasair-List: Glasair Fuselage
>
>
> Listers,
>
> I just bought a complete unairworthy Glasair, I bought it for the engine
> and
> gyros. I have a complete fuselage (I think it is complete) that has been
> sitting out in the weather for a few years. Is it still worth anything?
>
> Thanks
>
> Dave
>
>
> ==
> ==
> ==
> ==
>
>
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From: | n16-cd <n16-cd(at)peoplepc.com> |
Subject: | Re: Glasair Fuselage |
Your fuselage is worth $10.00. I will take it off of your hands so that you won't
have to junk it.
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave <dave(at)coltnet.net>
Subject: Re: Glasair-List: Glasair Fuselage
Bruce,
I wish I could tell you, I think it is a glasair I. It has passed through a
few hands since the original builder and the present owner before me doesn't
have any idea. Would Glasair TD be a model ? I would assume TD would be
taildragger, however it is a trigear. I hate to admit to this group I am
building a metal airplane. RV type (Please don't flame :-))
Thanks
Dave
> What model Glasair fuselage?
>
> Bruce
> www.glasair.org
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave
> To: glasair-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Glasair-List: Glasair Fuselage
>
>
> Listers,
>
> I just bought a complete unairworthy Glasair, I bought it for the engine
> and
> gyros. I have a complete fuselage (I think it is complete) that has been
> sitting out in the weather for a few years. Is it still worth anything?
>
> Thanks
>
> Dave
>
>
> ==
> ==
> ==
> ==
>
>
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From: | "Cory Emberson" <bootless(at)earthlink.net> |
Subject: | Has Anyone Financed a Glasair? |
Hello!
I'm writing an article for Kitplanes magazine about financing for
homebuilts. Has anyone had any experience in financing yourGlasair/GlaStar (or
other plane that you've built), and would you care to share that experience? Also,
if you've had the experience of financing an already-completed homebuilt,
I would love to hear from you as well.
Thanks so much! If you care to contact me off-list, my email address is
cory(at)lightspeededit.com. My "list" email address is bootless(at)earthlink.net.
Best,
Cory Emberson
KHWD
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | n16-cd <n16-cd(at)peoplepc.com> |
Subject: | Re: Has Anyone Financed a Glasair? |
First of all I would like to advise builders that the exhaust on my Gl 2S FT 200hp
lyc. with 848 hrs. cracked at the "y" between cyl# 3 & 4.
I financed my Gl2 on a home equity loan and credit card. I was able to pay off
the credit card balance when I sold the plane I owned during the construction
of my Glasair. I completed my plane in 1991 and had a total of $51,000 in it.
Over the years I upgraded the instruments and radios. In 1996 I stripped the
paint off and had the plane professionally painted. The interior was done over.
I had the fuel injection rebuilt and put on a set of slick mags. Now I have
around $80,000 in the plane.
-----Original Message-----
From: Cory Emberson <bootless(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: Glasair-List: Has Anyone Financed a Glasair?
Hello!
I'm writing an article for Kitplanes magazine about financing for
homebuilts. Has anyone had any experience in financing yourGlasair/GlaStar (or
other plane that you've built), and would you care to share that experience? Also,
if you've had the experience of financing an already-completed homebuilt,
I would love to hear from you as well.
Thanks so much! If you care to contact me off-list, my email address is
cory(at)lightspeededit.com. My "list" email address is bootless(at)earthlink.net.
Best,
Cory Emberson
KHWD
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From: | MPPalmer(at)aol.com |
Subject: | For Sale - new, never been used, 5/8" (old style) canopy |
bulb seal
Howdy:
Hey, if you've got a Glasair I, or even a GII before they switched over to
the new style canopy, your bulb seals are probably starting to wear. Ours began
separating at the bottom, where we'd often sit getting in and out of the
plane, or where I'd lean doing maintenance.
I use the small style bulb seal. Unfortunately, S/H (aka New Glasair) sold
me the wrong size (large) bulb seal and won't take it back.
My loss your gain. I paid $3.20/ft - will sell for $2.00/ft plus shipping.
New product - never used. Enough for both canopy openings.
Mike Palmer <><
Excellence in Ergonomics
P.S. Bruce, if you can sell this thru the glasairnews site, it'll pay my
membership and I'll join.
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | n16-cd <n16-cd(at)peoplepc.com> |
Subject: | Re: For Sale - new, never been used, 5/8" (old style) |
canopy bulb seal
I will buy them. How much total do you want?
-----Original Message-----
From: MPPalmer(at)aol.com
Subject: Glasair-List: For Sale - new, never been used, 5/8" (old style) canopy
bulb seal
Howdy:
Hey, if you've got a Glasair I, or even a GII before they switched over to
the new style canopy, your bulb seals are probably starting to wear. Ours began
separating at the bottom, where we'd often sit getting in and out of the
plane, or where I'd lean doing maintenance.
I use the small style bulb seal. Unfortunately, S/H (aka New Glasair) sold
me the wrong size (large) bulb seal and won't take it back.
My loss your gain. I paid $3.20/ft - will sell for $2.00/ft plus shipping.
New product - never used. Enough for both canopy openings.
Mike Palmer <><
Excellence in Ergonomics
P.S. Bruce, if you can sell this thru the glasairnews site, it'll pay my
membership and I'll join.
PeoplePC Online
A better way to Internet
http://www.peoplepc.com
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | n16-cd <n16-cd(at)peoplepc.com> |
Subject: | Re: For Sale - new, never been used, 5/8" (old style) |
canopy bulb seal
I use the small bulb seal also....sorry
-----Original Message-----
From: MPPalmer(at)aol.com
Subject: Glasair-List: For Sale - new, never been used, 5/8" (old style) canopy
bulb seal
Howdy:
Hey, if you've got a Glasair I, or even a GII before they switched over to
the new style canopy, your bulb seals are probably starting to wear. Ours began
separating at the bottom, where we'd often sit getting in and out of the
plane, or where I'd lean doing maintenance.
I use the small style bulb seal. Unfortunately, S/H (aka New Glasair) sold
me the wrong size (large) bulb seal and won't take it back.
My loss your gain. I paid $3.20/ft - will sell for $2.00/ft plus shipping.
New product - never used. Enough for both canopy openings.
Mike Palmer <><
Excellence in Ergonomics
P.S. Bruce, if you can sell this thru the glasairnews site, it'll pay my
membership and I'll join.
PeoplePC Online
A better way to Internet
http://www.peoplepc.com
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Warren Gretz <warrengretz(at)gretzaero.com> |
Subject: | Gretz Aero Heated Pitot Tubes and Mounting Brackets |
Hello Builders,
We have been off of this list for some time, but wanted to let you know we are
still making and selling parts for your aircraft. We have been in the process
of moving our operation from Colorado to Idaho for the past several months. With
luck, we should be settled into our new location in Idaho by the end of the
first week of August.
Meanwhile, our Heated Pitot Tube Mounting Bracket Kits are still very popular and
we been keeping very busy producing them. We do want to let everyone know that
we will need to increase our prices slightly, effective the 1st of August.
This increse is due to our raw material costs going up and also shipping charges
that have been going up over the past two years. We have tried to keep from
raising prices as long as we can, but now need to do so. Sorry.
GOOD NEWS is that we are getting very close to having our NEWEST Gretz Aero designed
product available! It is the GA-1000. This is a heated pitot tube that is
a totaly new design. It is completely different than any pitot before.
The Gretz Aero heated pitot tube is called the GA-1000 and will look nearly
like the PH502-12CR pitot tube except the GA-1000 will be black in color, and it
will be lighter in weight than any other heated pitot tube on the market. The
GA-1000 will be what we are calling a "smart" pitot tube. It
will give the pilot feedback as to its operation on the panel. It will also
be very energy conserative and be excellent installed in an aircraft with a
small altanator in the electrical system. The only bad part is, it is not
available yet. We plan on having it available very soon, if production does
not throw us a problem. It has taken us MUCH MUCH longer to get this project
done than we ever dreamed it would. The TARGET price on the GA-1000 is +/- $325
depending upon final production costs. This price will include shipping charges
in the US.
There are a number of builders that are purchasing our mounting bracket kit,
which was designed for the PH502-12CR pitot, (which has been available for
years), this same bracket kit will also fit the new GA-1000. Once the mounting
bracket is installed in your aircraft, the GA-1000 pitot tube can be installed
at a later date when it is available. Other pitot tubes that are now available,
will also fit into the same mounting bracket as well as the GA-1000.
We will make as big a splash as we can on our website, http://www.gretzaero.com , and this List, when the new Gretz Aero GA-1000 heated pitot tube product is available. There will be a page on the Gretz Aero website that will cover this product in great detail.
I hope this information helps you.
Your can place orders with Gretz Aero on the gretzaero.com website, print out the
printable order form on the order page of the website and mail, or call the
phone numbers below.
If you want to reply to us about this message posting, please do so directly to
my e-mail address below and not on the LIST.
Good Building to you!
Warren Gretz
Gretz Aero
15405 Bates Creek Rd.
Oreana, ID 83650
warrengretz(at)gretzaero.com
http://www.gretzaero.com
720-308-0010
208-834-2312
Warren Gretz
Gretz Aero
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | n16-cd <n16-cd(at)peoplepc.com> |
Subject: | Re: Gretz Aero Heated Pitot Tubes and Mounting |
Brackets
Pitot tubes are out of date. Lazer measuring devices are the in thing
-----Original Message-----
From: Warren Gretz <warrengretz(at)gretzaero.com>
Subject: Glasair-List: Gretz Aero Heated Pitot Tubes and Mounting Brackets
Hello Builders,
We have been off of this list for some time, but wanted to let you know we are
still making and selling parts for your aircraft. We have been in the process
of moving our operation from Colorado to Idaho for the past several months. With
luck, we should be settled into our new location in Idaho by the end of the
first week of August.
Meanwhile, our Heated Pitot Tube Mounting Bracket Kits are still very popular and
we been keeping very busy producing them. We do want to let everyone know that
we will need to increase our prices slightly, effective the 1st of August.
This increse is due to our raw material costs going up and also shipping charges
that have been going up over the past two years. We have tried to keep from
raising prices as long as we can, but now need to do so. Sorry.
GOOD NEWS is that we are getting very close to having our NEWEST Gretz Aero designed
product available! It is the GA-1000. This is a heated pitot tube that is
a totaly new design. It is completely different than any pitot before.
The Gretz Aero heated pitot tube is called the GA-1000 and will look nearly
like the PH502-12CR pitot tube except the GA-1000 will be black in color, and it
will be lighter in weight than any other heated pitot tube on the market. The
GA-1000 will be what we are calling a "smart" pitot tube. It
will give the pilot feedback as to its operation on the panel. It will also
be very energy conserative and be excellent installed in an aircraft with a
small altanator in the electrical system. The only bad part is, it is not
available yet. We plan on having it available very soon, if production does
not throw us a problem. It has taken us MUCH MUCH longer to get this project
done than we ever dreamed it would. The TARGET price on the GA-1000 is +/- $325
depending upon final production costs. This price will include shipping charges
in the US.
There are a number of builders that are purchasing our mounting bracket kit,
which was designed for the PH502-12CR pitot, (which has been available for
years), this same bracket kit will also fit the new GA-1000. Once the mounting
bracket is installed in your aircraft, the GA-1000 pitot tube can be installed
at a later date when it is available. Other pitot tubes that are now available,
will also fit into the same mounting bracket as well as the GA-1000.
We will make as big a splash as we can on our website, http://www.gretzaero.com , and this List, when the new Gretz Aero GA-1000 heated pitot tube product is available. There will be a page on the Gretz Aero website that will cover this product in great detail.
I hope this information helps you.
Your can place orders with Gretz Aero on the gretzaero.com website, print out the
printable order form on the order page of the website and mail, or call the
phone numbers below.
If you want to reply to us about this message posting, please do so directly to
my e-mail address below and not on the LIST.
Good Building to you!
Warren Gretz
Gretz Aero
15405 Bates Creek Rd.
Oreana, ID 83650
warrengretz(at)gretzaero.com
http://www.gretzaero.com
720-308-0010
208-834-2312
Warren Gretz
Gretz Aero
PeoplePC Online
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________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Bruce Gray" <Bruce(at)glasair.org> |
Subject: | Gretz Aero Heated Pitot Tubes and Mounting Brackets |
OK, send me info and pricing.
Bruce
www.glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of n16-cd
Subject: Re: Glasair-List: Gretz Aero Heated Pitot Tubes and Mounting
Brackets
Pitot tubes are out of date. Lazer measuring devices are the in thing
-----Original Message-----
From: Warren Gretz <warrengretz(at)gretzaero.com>
Subject: Glasair-List: Gretz Aero Heated Pitot Tubes and Mounting
Brackets
Hello Builders,
We have been off of this list for some time, but wanted to let you know
we are still making and selling parts for your aircraft. We have been in
the process of moving our operation from Colorado to Idaho for the past
several months. With luck, we should be settled into our new location in
Idaho by the end of the first week of August.
Meanwhile, our Heated Pitot Tube Mounting Bracket Kits are still very
popular and we been keeping very busy producing them. We do want to let
everyone know that we will need to increase our prices slightly,
effective the 1st of August. This increse is due to our raw material
costs going up and also shipping charges that have been going up over
the past two years. We have tried to keep from raising prices as long as
we can, but now need to do so. Sorry.
GOOD NEWS is that we are getting very close to having our NEWEST Gretz
Aero designed product available! It is the GA-1000. This is a heated
pitot tube that is a totaly new design. It is completely different than
any pitot before.
The Gretz Aero heated pitot tube is called the GA-1000 and will look
nearly
like the PH502-12CR pitot tube except the GA-1000 will be black in
color, and it will be lighter in weight than any other heated pitot tube
on the market. The GA-1000 will be what we are calling a "smart" pitot
tube. It
will give the pilot feedback as to its operation on the panel. It will
also
be very energy conserative and be excellent installed in an aircraft
with a
small altanator in the electrical system. The only bad part is, it is
not
available yet. We plan on having it available very soon, if production
does
not throw us a problem. It has taken us MUCH MUCH longer to get this
project
done than we ever dreamed it would. The TARGET price on the GA-1000 is
+/- $325 depending upon final production costs. This price will include
shipping charges in the US.
There are a number of builders that are purchasing our mounting bracket
kit,
which was designed for the PH502-12CR pitot, (which has been available
for
years), this same bracket kit will also fit the new GA-1000. Once the
mounting bracket is installed in your aircraft, the GA-1000 pitot tube
can be installed at a later date when it is available. Other pitot tubes
that are now available, will also fit into the same mounting bracket as
well as the GA-1000.
We will make as big a splash as we can on our website,
http://www.gretzaero.com , and this List, when the new Gretz Aero
GA-1000 heated pitot tube product is available. There will be a page on
the Gretz Aero website that will cover this product in great detail.
I hope this information helps you.
Your can place orders with Gretz Aero on the gretzaero.com website,
print out the printable order form on the order page of the website and
mail, or call the phone numbers below.
If you want to reply to us about this message posting, please do so
directly to my e-mail address below and not on the LIST.
Good Building to you!
Warren Gretz
Gretz Aero
15405 Bates Creek Rd.
Oreana, ID 83650
warrengretz(at)gretzaero.com
http://www.gretzaero.com
720-308-0010
208-834-2312
Warren Gretz
Gretz Aero
PeoplePC Online
A better way to Internet
http://www.peoplepc.com
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From: | "Troy Scott" <tscott1217(at)bellsouth.net> |
Subject: | Gretz Aero Heated Pitot Tubes and Mounting Brackets |
Will this pitot tube be compatible with and/or interchangeable with the
Dynon pitot tube that allows their EFIS to provide AOA information?
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Bruce Gray" <Bruce(at)glasair.org> |
Subject: | Gretz Aero Heated Pitot Tubes and Mounting Brackets |
So far they're just dreams on a schematic drawing. No one make one.
Bruce
www.glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Troy Scott
Subject: Glasair-List: Gretz Aero Heated Pitot Tubes and Mounting
Brackets
Will this pitot tube be compatible with and/or interchangeable with the
Dynon pitot tube that allows their EFIS to provide AOA information?
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From: | "Bruce Gray" <Bruce(at)glasair.org> |
Subject: | Gretz Aero Heated Pitot Tubes and Mounting Brackets |
Sorry, I thought you were talking about the laser pitot tubes.
Bruce
www.glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Troy Scott
Subject: Glasair-List: Gretz Aero Heated Pitot Tubes and Mounting
Brackets
Will this pitot tube be compatible with and/or interchangeable with the
Dynon pitot tube that allows their EFIS to provide AOA information?
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From: | "Troy Scott" <tscott1217(at)bellsouth.net> |
Subject: | hydraulic pump question |
Gentlemen,
I have the model 636397-B Oildyne hydraulic pump on my Glasair. This is the
"three wire" pump, also described as "the later pump". It has an aluminum
reservoir. The question: Is it a big deal to remove the reservoir from the
pump? Are there any "tricks" to that task?
Regards,
Troy Scott
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Fabian Lefler" <fablef(at)bellsouth.net> |
, ,
, ,
, ,
, ,
Subject: | Aluminum Vents Sale |
I am overstocked with Black Anodized Aluminum Vents, so for the month of
August, I will offer these at $199.00 with free shipping. Regular Price
is $235.00 with a $10.00 shipping charge.
These vents are the same size as Van's plastic vents including the
mounting holes. Our black anodized vents are unique in that we made the
eyeball and mechanism of out aluminum, but the flanges are plastic so
that the corners can be rounded off, just like Van's, and not expose the
clear aluminum.
You can see the vents here:
http://www.affordablepanels.com/aluminum_vents_files/IM001220.JPG
You can order the vents here:
http://www.affordablepanels.com/aluminum_vents.htm
This special is only available during this month, or until I run out of
vents.
Regards,
Fabian
________________________________________________________________________________
rv8-list(at)matronics.com, rv9-list(at)matronics.com, europa-list(at)matronics.com,
glasair-list(at)matronics.com, lancair-list(at)matronics.com,
rocket-list(at)matronics.com
From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Subject: | "Advertising" on the Lists... |
>I received a nastygram from an individual who read my posting regarding
>aluminum vents sale, so before the Oshkosh crowds return to the list and
>this becomes a real problem, I'll offer my apologies in advance to the
>group.
>
>Fabian
Listers,
I encourage small business owners such as Fabian to promote their products
on the Lists. I do ask, however, that the flavor of the messages not be in
the traditional form of spam messages, but more in the context of a
personal message. Obviously, moderation is in order as well. The Lists
are a forum for all types of dialog that involve the particular List in
question. If all of the Listers on a given List were in one big room
meeting and communicating in the manner that we do on the Lists, then
people such as Fabian and myself, for that matter, would obviously be
promoting our products to anyone that would listen. In fact, we would
likely be invited to give a presentation on it to the group. The List
isn't about commercialism, but it is about sharing knowledge. This extends
to everyone, including those that provide products to the community.
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin.
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | John Grosse <grosseair(at)ameritech.net> |
Does anyone know what's up with the glasair.org list and website? It
appears to have been offline for at least 3 days now.
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Bruce Gray" <Bruce(at)glasair.org> |
We had a server meltdown and are awaiting a new motherboard from Intel.
Have patience.
Bruce
www.glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John
Grosse
Subject: Glasair-List: What's Up
Does anyone know what's up with the glasair.org list and website? It
appears to have been offline for at least 3 days now.
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From: | MPPalmer(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Any interest in four Millennium O-320 narrow deck cylinders? |
We're coming up on 2000 hrs on a set of first run Millennium cylinders on our
Glasair. I'm told they hold up well and will go another 2000 easily after
overhaul.
Am trying to decide what to do - keep them or buy new. Part of the decision
equation involves finding if anyone is interested in buying our old
Millenniums and for how much. These are narrow deck jugs, for the 160 HP Lycoming.
AFAIK, no cracks. Compression has always been good, although starting to drop
off gracefully as they age. We upgraded to 9:1 pistons, so you make a little
more power. They've been babied all their lives, with long cross country
flying, very few touch 'n' go cycles, and smooth (starting from 60 to 90 mile out)
power reductions.
Max temps have been in the 425 on climbout, with the exception of #2 which
saw 450 occasionally until I discovered the baffle had been designed wrong. For
the past 300 to 400 hours, we've been running LOP, with CHT's in the 300's in
cruise.
What else would you like to know about them? I've bore scoped the valve
faces - look good to me. Never a stuck valve (changed oil every 35 to 40 hours).
I point out that someone like Gibson says they can yellow tag them for $300,
assuming nothing broken.
Please let me know,
Thanks,
Mike Palmer <><
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Land Shorter <landshorter2(at)yahoo.com> |
Subject: | New product announcement: affordable VG's |
homebuilt-list(at)matronics.com, jabiru-list(at)matronics.com,
kitfox-list(at)matronics.com, kolb-list(at)matronics.com, kr-list(at)matronics.com,
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lancair-list(at)matronics.com.1.00.SORTED_RECIPS.Recipient.list.is.sorted.by.address
Hey folks,
I double checked and Matt Dralle's earlier post says it's OK to post about new
aviation products as long as the message doesn't come off as having a "flavor"
of "traditional spam". Don't worry I'm not going to try to sell you anything
that supposedly makes any of your body parts larger (or smaller) and this product
is directly aviation related :) I'm just an airplane builder, owner, pilot,
and aviation nut who wants to tell you where you can find more information about
a great new product.
I've been selling kits of vortex generators (VG's) for only $95 and my customers are telling me they really like the performance gains they're seeing. VG's are great for reducing stall speeds and allow you to land slower, shorter, and safer. I invite you to check out my site at www.landshorter.com and see what you think. My VG's can be quickly installed for testing using removable double-stick tape and come with a 100% money-back guarantee so why not try them out on your plane? You'll be really glad you did :)
Thanks and let's keep 'em flying!
Joa Harrison
The VG Guy
www.landshorter.com
1-877-272-1414 (toll free)
---------------------------------
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Robin Young" <robin02(at)mindspring.com> |
Subject: | New product announcement: affordable VG's |
Joa Wrote:
[I've been selling kits of vortex generators (VG's) for only $95 and my
customers are telling me they really like the performance gains they're
seeing.]
I don't recall ever seeing VG on a high wing load designed airplane. JUst
thinking through the concept on a Glasair wing....the airsteam stays
attached until pretty far back while in cruise and becomes unattached fairly
quickly from a point much farther forward at stall. Is it possible for VG
to decrease stall speed (at 10% of chord) without increasing drag at cruise
speed?
I am not so much trying to critique the concept as to find out if anybody
has had an increase in speed on an already fast wing. Robin Young
286YM....Glasair TD
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Land Shorter <landshorter2(at)yahoo.com> |
Subject: | Re: Glasair-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 09/05/04 |
VG's have been used on laminar flow wings (and "semi" laminar flow wings). I've
heard some people report no change in cruise (Lancairs) and others report about
a 1-2% loss in cruise when used on laminar wings.
They definitely help the bottom end though and many pilots find this to compensate
for any loss in cruise (if any).
Also keep in mind that they can be used to help tail effectiveness as well as to
reduce drag by controlling localized flow. Check out the local flow articles
at...
http://www.cafefoundation.org/research.htm
Thanks folks!
Joa
www.landshorter.com
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
I don't recall ever seeing VG on a high wing load designed airplane. JUst
thinking through the concept on a Glasair wing....the airsteam stays
attached until pretty far back while in cruise and becomes unattached fairly
quickly from a point much farther forward at stall. Is it possible for VG
to decrease stall speed (at 10% of chord) without increasing drag at cruise
speed?
I am not so much trying to critique the concept as to find out if anybody
has had an increase in speed on an already fast wing. Robin Young
286YM....Glasair TD
---------------------------------
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From: | n16-cd <n16-cd(at)peoplepc.com> |
Subject: | Re: Glasair-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 09/05/04 |
My Glasair 2S stalls at 57 mph. To reduce my roll out I simply bottom out my flaps,
hold back hard on the elevator and if need be open a hatch.
-----Original Message-----
From: Land Shorter <landshorter2(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Glasair-List: Re: Glasair-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 09/05/04
VG's have been used on laminar flow wings (and "semi" laminar flow wings). I've
heard some people report no change in cruise (Lancairs) and others report about
a 1-2% loss in cruise when used on laminar wings.
They definitely help the bottom end though and many pilots find this to compensate
for any loss in cruise (if any).
Also keep in mind that they can be used to help tail effectiveness as well as to
reduce drag by controlling localized flow. Check out the local flow articles
at...
http://www.cafefoundation.org/research.htm
Thanks folks!
Joa
www.landshorter.com
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
I don't recall ever seeing VG on a high wing load designed airplane. JUst
thinking through the concept on a Glasair wing....the airsteam stays
attached until pretty far back while in cruise and becomes unattached fairly
quickly from a point much farther forward at stall. Is it possible for VG
to decrease stall speed (at 10% of chord) without increasing drag at cruise
speed?
I am not so much trying to critique the concept as to find out if anybody
has had an increase in speed on an already fast wing. Robin Young
286YM....Glasair TD
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From: | MPPalmer(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Lord mount P/N for GII |
Hello all:
I emailed techsupport at NewGlasair, but haven't received an answer.
I've been using the Spruce Homebuilder special engine mounts, based on a Lord
J-7402-5. I only get 1000 hrs per set (about four to five years), which even
in the Phoenix heat, doesn't seem right. Think I'll go with Barry this time.
Question: What is the official Lord mount we're supposed to be using on the
GII Dynafocal, non-aerobatic? (Manuals are at the hangar. Sorry if the info
is in there.) Anyone running a set of Barry mounts, and if so, how are they
holding up?
TIA,
Mike Palmer <><
Excellence in Ergonomics
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | frequent flyer <jdhcv(at)yahoo.com> |
Subject: | Re: Lord mount P/N for GII |
Mike, Just saw neighbor's RV-7 he's building and his
lord mounts are a lot larger diameter than the ones I
had for the Starduster and the ones that are on my
Glasair. You might check Van's.
Jack
--- MPPalmer(at)aol.com wrote:
>
> Hello all:
>
> I emailed techsupport at NewGlasair, but haven't
> received an answer.
>
> I've been using the Spruce Homebuilder special
> engine mounts, based on a Lord
__________________________________
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | MPPalmer(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Lord Mounts Con't |
The Glasair I manual calls out J-6230-1's. The GII manual seems silent about
it.
I found some Mounts in the Van's catalog, but no equivalent number for
crossing over.
Anyone with a GII, 0-320, non-aerobatic know what they're using?
Thanks,
Mike <><
> Mike, Just saw neighbor's RV-7 he's building and his
> lord mounts are a lot larger diameter than the ones I
> had for the Starduster and the ones that are on my
> Glasair. You might check Van's.
>
> Jack
> --- MPPalmer(at)aol.com wrote:
>
> >
> > Hello all:
> >
> > I emailed techsupport at NewGlasair, but haven't
> > received an answer.
> >
> > I've been using the Spruce Homebuilder special
> > engine mounts, based on a Lord
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | n16-cd <n16-cd(at)peoplepc.com> |
Subject: | Re: Lord Mounts Con't |
I finished my GL2S w/Lyc IO360 200 hp in '91 with the smaller mounts. I found that
I had to rotate them every 100 hours. In 1996 I ordered a new set from SH
and they sent me a set of the larger in diameter ones. These new mounts work better.
But note: Thick shim washers between the engine and the mounts have to
be used. The washers will push the engine further foward close to 3/16 of an inch.
-----Original Message-----
From: MPPalmer(at)aol.com
Subject: Glasair-List: Lord Mounts Con't
The Glasair I manual calls out J-6230-1's. The GII manual seems silent about
it.
I found some Mounts in the Van's catalog, but no equivalent number for
crossing over.
Anyone with a GII, 0-320, non-aerobatic know what they're using?
Thanks,
Mike <><
> Mike, Just saw neighbor's RV-7 he's building and his
> lord mounts are a lot larger diameter than the ones I
> had for the Starduster and the ones that are on my
> Glasair. You might check Van's.
>
> Jack
> --- MPPalmer(at)aol.com wrote:
>
> >
> > Hello all:
> >
> > I emailed techsupport at NewGlasair, but haven't
> > received an answer.
> >
> > I've been using the Spruce Homebuilder special
> > engine mounts, based on a Lord
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From: | MPPalmer(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Homing in on Engine Mounts |
Okay all,
I found my old Lord Mounts that shipped with the original Glasair I kit.
It's funny, because the individual part numbers don't tell you what the
assembly's part number is. My biscuits are stamped "J-4701-8," which, the Lord
guy
tells me, implies the assembly is a J-4702-16. (If the spacer were rubber
coated, that would have made it a J-4702-24.) This is a relatively soft mount,
with
a rating of merit at 900 psi. The equivalent Barry mount for the -16 Lord is
BRY 94150-01.
By contrast, the Spruce "Homebuilders special" (p/n 08-03500) I have
installed now, are supposed to be the equivalent of Lord J-7402-5. The -5 is a
stiffer mount, with a merit rating of 1500 psi. Barry does not make a mount
compatible with the -5.
I don't mind the ride with the -5's. Sometime a little vibration comes thru,
but I like having the engine not rock around so much nor sag so fast. If I
could, I'd like to find something in the middle. Barry says they have a
94150-02 out in the field, but it's not an FAA-PMA'd part. If anyone knows where
I
can buy some, please let me know.
To clear up something incorrect I said before, I have Dynafocal I type
mounts. The type I are the "early" attempt at Dynafocal, and have a 2" diameter
bucket for the biscuits. That turned out to be a little too little. Later
attempts at Dynafocal use a 3 inch diameter, which allows much more surface area
to
spread the load. This is what the RV series aircraft use. They don't take
as much of a set as quickly as the earlier style mount.
Hope this helps,
Mike Palmer
Excellence in Ergonomics
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "steve korney" <s_korney(at)hotmail.com> |
Subject: | Homing in on Engine Mounts |
The engine mounts that I use on my (Glasair 1 rg with dynafocal 1 ) are :::
VIP 50545-1
Made by Vibration Isolation Products
11275 San Fernando Rd.
San Fernando, CA 91340
Phone # (800) 845-0015
Hope that helps...
Best... Steve
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Dave" <dave(at)coltnet.net> |
Subject: | Re: Glasair Fuselage |
Bruce,
I have the used nosewheel assembly and main landing gear for a glasair and
would like to sale it. How much is it worth. Is there a TD to nosewheel
conversion kit still available? I can send pictures if you like.
Thanks for the help
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Gray" <Bruce(at)glasair.org>
Subject: RE: Glasair-List: Glasair Fuselage
>
> What model Glasair fuselage?
>
> Bruce
> www.glasair.org
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave
> To: glasair-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Glasair-List: Glasair Fuselage
>
>
> Listers,
>
> I just bought a complete unairworthy Glasair, I bought it for the engine
> and
> gyros. I have a complete fuselage (I think it is complete) that has been
> sitting out in the weather for a few years. Is it still worth anything?
>
> Thanks
>
> Dave
>
>
> ==
> ==
> ==
> ==
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | DPrestonsr(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Re: Glasair Fuselage |
Hi folks. I am new to this list. Just started looking for a Glasair SII or
SIIS. Checked with insurance and quoted me today $3796 for SIIS RG at $100K
hull. Seems awful high to me. My lower time partner has 2600 total with Comm,
ME
& Inst. with Citation type and school every 12 months. Has 200+ in RV6 and
25 in Glasair I. What are u guys encountering with which underwriter?
Thanks,
Doug Preston
BHM
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | n16-cd <n16-cd(at)peoplepc.com> |
Subject: | Re: Glasair Fuselage |
I use the Forest Agency. Found them to be the lowest (800-536-2011). I insure my
hull for $60,000 because I could put another one together for that amount. I
have been with this agency for 15 years or so.
-----Original Message-----
From: DPrestonsr(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Glasair-List: Glasair Fuselage
Hi folks. I am new to this list. Just started looking for a Glasair SII or
SIIS. Checked with insurance and quoted me today $3796 for SIIS RG at $100K
hull. Seems awful high to me. My lower time partner has 2600 total with Comm,
ME
& Inst. with Citation type and school every 12 months. Has 200+ in RV6 and
25 in Glasair I. What are u guys encountering with which underwriter?
Thanks,
Doug Preston
BHM
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From: | Dj Merrill <deej(at)thayer.dartmouth.edu> |
Subject: | Re: Glasair Fuselage |
>Hi folks. I am new to this list. Just started looking for a Glasair SII or
>SIIS. Checked with insurance and quoted me today $3796 for SIIS RG at $100K
>hull. Seems awful high to me. My lower time partner has 2600 total with Comm,
ME
>& Inst. with Citation type and school every 12 months. Has 200+ in RV6 and
>25 in Glasair I. What are u guys encountering with which underwriter?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Doug Preston
>BHM
>
>
Hi Doug,
I have my coveage through Aero Insurance (www.aeroinsurance.com).
Talk to Melissa Perkins.
I'm currently covered for $55k for $1800 per year on my
Glasair 1 FT. Considering I only had 230 or so total time hours a year ago
when renewing this policy, with about 45-50 in type at the time,
I thought it a pretty reasonable deal.
Hope this helps,
-Dj
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "charles Raymond" <N16-CD(at)peoplepc.com> |
Just a warning: My exhaust on my GL 2S FT cracked at the "Y" between cyl 3 & 4.
My welder told me that the SH supplied exhaust system was of poor quality construction
and was never heat treated.
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "charles Raymond" <N16-CD(at)peoplepc.com> |
I had a sudden increase in speed in my Gl2S. After landing, I noticed that the
bottom of my fuselage was unusually dirty. I pulled off the cowl and spotted a
broken exhaust. Could it be that the present exhaust configuration of the 180/200
hp Glasairs are being robbed of horse power.
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | MPPalmer(at)aol.com |
Subject: | For Sale - 4 First Run Millennium O-320 narrow deck cylinders |
I just did a top overhaul on our Glasair. Lowest cylinder was 70/80
compression, but oil consumption was a quart every 4 hours. (Still acceptable
for
many shops.) To expedite the changeout, decided to buy new cylinders. That means
I have 4 first run Superior Millennium cylinders for sale.
These are narrow deck cylinders for a Lycoming O-320. They have about 1800
gentle hours on them. Very little touch 'n' go cycles, lots of cross country
time, where we started our descents 9 miles out for every thousand feet. We
also had a "rule," - 20 inches at 20 miles. Oil changes every 35 to 40 hours,
with filter. IOW, we babied these jugs. Hottest we ever saw on climbout was #2
at 450 degrees, but after changing the baffling, got it down to 425. Cruise
temps around 325 to 350.
I'm told by everyone I called when I considered overhauling them, that
Millenniums will easily go another 2000 hours. They may only require a rehone
and
new rings. If so, I will supply four 9:1 weight matched pistons with. Or, if
you prefer, I have three 8.5:1 pistons I will include.
I've pulled the valves. They look good to me. Seats also. I can supply
photos if interested and can make some rudimentary measurements for you.
I also have a new ECi exhaust valve that I'll sell separately or include with
the set. Never been used. I nicked it at the top of the stem with a dental
pick when trying to move the keepers. All the mechanics I've shown it to say
it's fine. Also the Overhaul manual allows for 1/16" long nicks... this is
only 1/64" long, maybe 5 thousands deep, and I burnished most of it out with 400
grit production sandpaper. But I'm very conservative and ordered another one
anyway. (My partner is a gal - enough said.)
Will sell the cylinders, with valves, 9:1 pistons and wrist pins (no rocker
arms nor rocker arm covers) separately for $150, or all four for $500 as is.
(You pay shipping.)
The exhaust valve lists new for $135 (not including shipping and tax) - will
sell for $120.
Am based at Phoenix, DVT if you'd like to come by and look for yourself.
Thanks,
Mike Palmer <><
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | frequent flyer <jdhcv(at)yahoo.com> |
Subject: | Re: For Sale - 4 First Run Millennium O-320 narrow deck |
cylinders
Mike, before you actually let them go get back in
touch with me. Jack
--- MPPalmer(at)aol.com wrote:
>
> I just did a top overhaul on our Glasair. Lowest
> cylinder was 70/80
> compression, but oil consumption was a quart every 4
> hours. (Still acceptable for
> many shops.) To expedite the changeout, decided to
> buy new cylinders. That means
> I have 4 first run Superior Millennium cylinders for
> sale.
>
> These are narrow deck cylinders for a Lycoming
> O-320. They have about 1800
> gentle hours on them. Very little touch 'n' go
> cycles, lots of cross country
> time, where we started our descents 9 miles out for
> every thousand feet. We
> also had a "rule," - 20 inches at 20 miles. Oil
> changes every 35 to 40 hours,
> with filter. IOW, we babied these jugs. Hottest we
> ever saw on climbout was #2
> at 450 degrees, but after changing the baffling, got
> it down to 425. Cruise
> temps around 325 to 350.
>
> I'm told by everyone I called when I considered
> overhauling them, that
> Millenniums will easily go another 2000 hours. They
> may only require a rehone and
> new rings. If so, I will supply four 9:1 weight
> matched pistons with. Or, if
> you prefer, I have three 8.5:1 pistons I will
> include.
>
> I've pulled the valves. They look good to me.
> Seats also. I can supply
> photos if interested and can make some rudimentary
> measurements for you.
>
> I also have a new ECi exhaust valve that I'll sell
> separately or include with
> the set. Never been used. I nicked it at the top of
> the stem with a dental
> pick when trying to move the keepers. All the
> mechanics I've shown it to say
> it's fine. Also the Overhaul manual allows for
> 1/16" long nicks... this is
> only 1/64" long, maybe 5 thousands deep, and I
> burnished most of it out with 400
> grit production sandpaper. But I'm very
> conservative and ordered another one
> anyway. (My partner is a gal - enough said.)
>
> Will sell the cylinders, with valves, 9:1 pistons
> and wrist pins (no rocker
> arms nor rocker arm covers) separately for $150, or
> all four for $500 as is.
> (You pay shipping.)
>
> The exhaust valve lists new for $135 (not including
> shipping and tax) - will
> sell for $120.
>
> Am based at Phoenix, DVT if you'd like to come by
> and look for yourself.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike Palmer <><
>
>
>
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From: | Craymondw(at)aol.com |
How do I find out about projects for sale?
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From: | "Bruce Gray" <Bruce(at)glasair.org> |
TAP or www.glasair.org
Bruce
www.glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Craymondw(at)aol.com
Subject: Glasair-List: glasair
How do I find out about projects for sale?
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Craymondw(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Re: Glasair-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 01/19/05 |
Aren't there any messages on this page...all I get are headers!!
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | John Grosse <grosseair(at)ameritech.net> |
Subject: | Re: Glasair-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 01/19/05 |
That's because most Glasair builders are on www.glasair.org
If you aren't signed up there, and you're interested in Glasairs, then
you should join us there.
John
Super II RG
Craymondw(at)aol.com wrote:
>
>Aren't there any messages on this page...all I get are headers!!
>
>
>
>
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From: | John Raeburn <raeburn(at)direcway.com> |
Subject: | Takeoff and Landing distances |
Hi,
I'm thinking of buying a Glasair 11, I've looked at the Glasair web site
for information on take-off and landing distances. (Gross weight and solo ),
but they do not appear to list them.
Is there anyone out there who can enlighten me on the take-off and landing
distances for this aircraft?
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Paul Pengilly <pengilly(at)southwest.com.au> |
Subject: | Re: Takeoff and Landing distances |
John Raeburn wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I'm thinking of buying a Glasair 11, I've looked at the Glasair web site
> for information on take-off and landing distances. (Gross weight and
> solo ),
> but they do not appear to list them.
>
> Is there anyone out there who can enlighten me on the take-off and landing
> distances for this aircraft?
>
>
> John on the main menu http://www.glasair.org/ go to plane specs and
> comparison and you will find all that you are looking for.
Regards
Paul a Glasair Super II RG Builder
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Craymondw(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Re: Takeoff and Landing distances |
I have a Glasair 2S FT with an IO360 200 hp engine, constant speed prop. At a
runway elevation of 700 feet and on a cool day, my plane takes off in less
than 500 feet on pavement. The landing depends on how much braking you want to
use. On landing I have my passenger open the hatch on roll out. When you hold
onto the partially opened hatch it acts as an air brake. With light braking I
can get off the runway in less than 2,000 feet.
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "David Stroud" <dstroud(at)rogers.com> |
Lads, I've come across a Cont. IO520 zero time
that may become available soon. Full logs with the engine. 300 hp from a C206
I believe. Is this engine appropriate for the Glasair ? Anyone interested if it
does
become avail? Thanks.
David Stroud
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Bruce Gray" <Bruce(at)glasair.org> |
All Glasairs are designed to take the Lycoming IO-320/360/540 series of
engines. One ot two brave builders have installed a Cont. engine but
it's very difficult.
Bruce
www.glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of David
Stroud
Subject: Glasair-List: Glasair engines
Lads, I've come across a Cont. IO520 zero time
that may become available soon. Full logs with the engine. 300 hp from a
C206
I believe. Is this engine appropriate for the Glasair ? Anyone
interested if it does
become avail? Thanks.
David Stroud
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few posts may get lost in the shuffle. If you don't see your post show up
on the List in the normal amount of time (plus a little bit), then please
just try posting it again.
Upgrading the Matronics Email Server operating system (from Redhat Linux
7.2 to Redhat Linux WS 4) is a sizeable undertaking and requires a great
deal of work to port all of the utilities, programs, and scripts over to
the new system. As I've already mentioned, both the old and new systems
will be on line at the same time, so interruption should be held to an
absolute minimal. You might see a couple of odd test messages during the
cut-over or other odd messages; please just ignore them.
I have setup a new System Status Web Page that I will use to update List
Members on the current status of the email and web systems. Please refer
to it as often as you like:
http://www.matronics.com/SystemStatus/
Thank you for your continued support of the List Services at
Matronics! Its your yearly Contributions that make these major upgrades
possible!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Subject: | [Please Read] Matronics Email Server Upgrade Complete! |
Dear Listers,
The upgrade of the Matronics Email Server can be considered complete at
this time. All known issues related to the upgrade process have been
resolved and email services are running normal. The Nightly Digest
processing has not yet been tested and will wait for tonight's update.
If you encounter any odd behavior with respect to the Matronics Email
Server over the next few days, please contact me via email at
dralle(at)matronics.com or if that fails try dralle(at)speakeasy.net.
Thanks to everyone for being patient through this arduous process of a
major system upgrade!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
At 12:37 PM 4/16/2005 Saturday, Matt Dralle wrote:
>Dear Listers,
>
>I will be upgrading the Matronics Email Server this weekend. This
>includes some hardware improvements - more memory, faster, more capable
>processors - as well as a complete operating system upgrade from
>scratch. I hope to have both the old system and the new system running at
>the same time to minimize the actual impact of the upgrade.
>
>Hopefully there will be little actual downtime during the transition, but
>a few posts may get lost in the shuffle. If you don't see your post show
>up on the List in the normal amount of time (plus a little bit), then
>please just try posting it again.
>
>Upgrading the Matronics Email Server operating system (from Redhat Linux
>7.2 to Redhat Linux WS 4) is a sizeable undertaking and requires a great
>deal of work to port all of the utilities, programs, and scripts over to
>the new system. As I've already mentioned, both the old and new systems
>will be on line at the same time, so interruption should be held to an
>absolute minimal. You might see a couple of odd test messages during the
>cut-over or other odd messages; please just ignore them.
>
>I have setup a new System Status Web Page that I will use to update List
>Members on the current status of the email and web systems. Please refer
>to it as often as you like:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/SystemStatus/
>
>
>Thank you for your continued support of the List Services at
>Matronics! Its your yearly Contributions that make these major upgrades
>possible!
>
>Best regards,
>
>Matt Dralle
>Matronics Email List Administrator
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | MPPalmer(at)AOL.COM |
Subject: | Crack in upper gear leg bracket - FT |
During a condition inspection, I removed the belly panel to look around and
lube the gear leg bracket that attaches to the A rib. Noticed a hairline crack
along a weld in one of the upper attach brackets on the pilot side gear leg.
Photo available upon request.
Part time, 2200 hrs.
Mike Palmer <><
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Robin Young" <robin02(at)mindspring.com> |
Subject: | Re: Crack in upper gear leg bracket - FT |
Mike, I too found a similar condition a few years back. Your tri gear has a
like bracket to the taildragger main gear. I found a crack in the bend of my
right gear bracket. At Sun n fun the next year, I showed the bracket to a
Glasair rep and we determined the cause to be from using a dull chrome (my
idea) instead of prime and paint. It was thought that the process changed
the steel and weakened it. Yours is the only other case I have heard of.
Robin Young
----- Original Message -----
From: <MPPalmer(at)aol.com>
Subject: Glasair-List: Crack in upper gear leg bracket - FT
>
> During a condition inspection, I removed the belly panel to look around
and
> lube the gear leg bracket that attaches to the A rib. Noticed a hairline
crack
> along a weld in one of the upper attach brackets on the pilot side gear
leg.
> Photo available upon request.
>
> Part time, 2200 hrs.
>
> Mike Palmer <><
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | MPPalmer(at)AOL.COM |
Subject: | Photo of hairline crack on upper gear bracket - FT |
http://members.cox.net/mppalmer/
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Larry Martin" <lrm(at)isp.com> |
Subject: | Subaru engine package for sale |
I have a complete Subaru EJ 2.5 engine package for sale, details can be seen at www.angelfire.com/un/ch701/forsale.html.
Larry, N1345L www.angelfire.com/un/ch701
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Dj Merrill <deej(at)thayer.dartmouth.edu> |
Subject: | Re: Subaru engine package for sale |
Larry Martin wrote:
>
> I have a complete Subaru EJ 2.5 engine package for sale, details can be seen at www.angelfire.com/un/ch701/forsale.html.
> Larry, N1345L www.angelfire.com/un/ch701
Hi Larry,
Just out of curiousity I went to your web page to find
out how much you are asking for it, but I can't find a price...
-Dj
--
Dj Merrill
deej(at)thayer.dartmouth.edu
"TSA: Totally Screwing Aviation"
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Larry Martin" <lrm(at)isp.com> |
Subject: | Re: Subaru engine package for sale |
That's because I didn't put a price. I need 15K. Thanks for asking, Larry
Larry, N1345L www.angelfire.com/un/ch701
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dj Merrill" <deej(at)thayer.dartmouth.edu>
Subject: Re: Glasair-List: Subaru engine package for sale
>
> Larry Martin wrote:
> >
> > I have a complete Subaru EJ 2.5 engine package for sale, details can be
seen at www.angelfire.com/un/ch701/forsale.html.
> > Larry, N1345L www.angelfire.com/un/ch701
>
> Hi Larry,
> Just out of curiousity I went to your web page to find
> out how much you are asking for it, but I can't find a price...
>
> -Dj
>
> --
> Dj Merrill
> deej(at)thayer.dartmouth.edu
>
> "TSA: Totally Screwing Aviation"
>
>
> --
>
>
--
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | MPPalmer(at)aol.com |
Subject: | FT bracket crack update |
--> Glasair-List message posted by: MPPalmer(at)aol.com
Finally got around to pulling the seat pans and checking the tops of the gear
leg brackets for cracks. None found.
To see the original crack,
www.members.cox.net/mppalmer
In an unrelated note, I found a problem with our Aeroflash strobe power pack.
Took some photos of a part that broke and plan to post a note on the fix
"soon."
Mike Palmer <><
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Rob Campbell <1global(at)adelphia.net> |
Subject: | Help choosing a kit plane |
Hello,
I'm trying to choose which aircraft I'd like to build. The SII FT
seems to be the best Glasair fit for me. Are there any "listers" out
there near Camarillo, CA who have built a Glasair I could look at
and discuss ease of build? If anyone on the list has any comments
about comparing a metal aircraft build with a composite build I'd
like to hear from you. I have never built an airplane so this will
be my first and I'd appreciate any comments about how much time it
really takes (vs. what Glasair says) and how easy or difficult it
is. Also, I'd like to know if the performance numbers match what
Glasair puts out. I'd like an economical aircraft so I'd probably
opt for 150 to 160 HP.
Thanks,
Rob
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Robin Young" <robin02(at)mindspring.com> |
Subject: | Help choosing a kit plane |
Hi Rob, I finished my TD in 1984. It took 2600 hours and was my first plane
project. I imagine the build of a new kit is less than half that now. My
plane weighs 1090 lbs and with the new design gear legs has a GW of 1900
lbs. It cruises at 210mph on a 10gph fuel flow. racing has forced some
refinements over the years but it has always been fast. enjoy the build.
Robin young 286YM
Hello,
I'm trying to choose which aircraft I'd like to build. The SII FT
seems to be the best Glasair fit for me. Are there any "listers" out
there near Camarillo, CA who have built a Glasair I could look at
and discuss ease of build? If anyone on the list has any comments
about comparing a metal aircraft build with a composite build I'd
like to hear from you. I have never built an airplane so this will
be my first and I'd appreciate any comments about how much time it
really takes (vs. what Glasair says) and how easy or difficult it
is. Also, I'd like to know if the performance numbers match what
Glasair puts out. I'd like an economical aircraft so I'd probably
opt for 150 to 160 HP.
Thanks,
Rob
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Subject: | List Digest Truncation Fixed!! |
Dear Listers,
I finally figured out today what was causing the occasional
truncation of the daily List Digest emails. Seems that every once in
a while a message would contain a single "." (period) on line all by
itself. The mailers would see this and assume that this was the
universal emailer signal for "end of message", and consequently
wouldn't process any of the rest of the Digest message.
I've put in a filter today to remove any of these sequences so we
should be back in business on the Digests.
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin.
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Craymondw(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Re: Glasair-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 08/17/05 |
There is a company that makes retro fit fixed landing gear for Questair
Ventures. The people that have installed this retro fit are reporting only a six
mile per hour drop off of their previous 275 mph cruise speed! I understand
that retro fit comes from the fabulous speeds that the Cirrus and Lancair fix
gear are getting from their well designed landing gear fairings. Is there a
retrofit for Glasair twos and threes? Getting rid of heavy retractable and
unreliable RG systems would be the way to go. I understand that the extra weight
of
the RG that the Glasair two has to carry only allows the RG an extra six mile
per hour cruise over the Glasair fixed trike.
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Subject: | Matronics Web Server Upgrade Today Tuesday 09/06/05 5pm |
PDT
Dear Listers,
I will be taking the Matronics Web Server down for a few hours today,
Tuesday September 6 2005 for a chassis upgrade. Archive browsing and
searching along with subscription services will be unavailable for
be processed normally during the upgrade. Please check the Matronics
System Status Page for updates (although this page resides on the web
server and won't be available during the upgrade):
http://www.matronics.com/SystemStatus/
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin.
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: | Re: He Said, She Said... |
STOP SENDING ME TIS LIST
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: | He Said, She Said... |
That won't do it Rocco - You need to visit matronics.com and turn it off
yourself. Remember, you turned it on!
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of CGRocco(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Glasair-List: He Said, She Said...
STOP SENDING ME TIS LIST
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Craymondw(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Re: Glasair-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 11/28/05 |
I have been receiving Glasair list for two years. I guess they got my name
because I built a Glasair. But everytime I open the mail there is nothing there!!
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | John Markey <markeypilot(at)yahoo.com> |
Subject: | Re: Glasair-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 11/28/05 |
You are correct
I would be interested in hearing from anyone who has done light aerobatics in
their Glasair.
Anyone? Bueller?
John Markey
GIIS N661CC @ VPZ
Craymondw(at)aol.com wrote:
I have been receiving Glasair list for two years. I guess they got my name
because I built a Glasair. But everytime I open the mail there is nothing there!!
---------------------------------
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | MPPalmer(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Used vac pump FS |
Before going to e-bay with this, thought I'd offer it to fellow Glasair
owners.
Long story short: We have a Sigma-Tek Gold Seal vac pump (Model 1U128B). I
thought it had failed. Replaced it, only to find, when I was upside down,
changing out the vac filter, that a hose had fallen off the A/I. Rats.
This pump has about 1200 hrs on it, and was going strong. (Warranty is 1000
hrs, and I've heard they go for 1800 if you treat them right.) This one has
been operated at prop speed of 2400 rpm, and suction set low, at bottom of green.
I replaced our first one at 1100 hours, just because it had more than 1000,
and we flew a lot of IFR back then. I hear that one is still flying in a
Cherokee 5 years later! I was planning on flying this one until it quit. But you
see....
Anyway, if you need a pump, I'd like to sell it for $100. I'll prorate it
quarterly for a year. That is, if it fails in 7 months, I'll give you back $50.
(I'm good for it, right Jack?)
If you don't fly much, don't fly IFR, and need a pump cheap, this is the pump
for you. (Even if you fly a lot in IFR... but you might be squeamish.)
Be advised that the ports are in a slightly different location than the
standard Airborne units, and depending on your installation, you might have to
shorten the fittings to clear the cowl. If you already fly with a Sigma-Tek, then
obviously, this is a simple swap. They're not making this one any more - in
favor of their $800 piston pump - so if you need a replacement Gold Seal for the
future...
Runs CW or CCW.
Let me know if interested.
Mike Palmer <><
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Craymondw(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Re: Glasair-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 11/28/05 |
I have..in a Glasair2S FT. I also owned a modified Pitts S2S with a 215 hp
engine that I flew in competition and airshows. The Glasair does nice rolls,
wing overs, and barrel rolls. Hammer heads are difficult because of a not very
effective rudder. I wouldn't advise spins. I would practice at 5,000 feet for
the first 50 hours. At that altitude you should be able to recover. If the
plane is tail heavy, you may get yourself into a flat spin..so be careful and use
a chute.
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: | Used vac pump FS |
From: | "Jeff Siebenhaar" <jeffs(at)ostari.com> |
Hi Mike,
What engine was it used on ? I have a Lycoming IO540k1A5
Jeff
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
MPPalmer(at)aol.com
Subject: Glasair-List: Used vac pump FS
Before going to e-bay with this, thought I'd offer it to fellow Glasair
owners.
Long story short: We have a Sigma-Tek Gold Seal vac pump (Model 1U128B).
I
thought it had failed. Replaced it, only to find, when I was upside
down,
changing out the vac filter, that a hose had fallen off the A/I. Rats.
This pump has about 1200 hrs on it, and was going strong. (Warranty is
1000
hrs, and I've heard they go for 1800 if you treat them right.) This one
has
been operated at prop speed of 2400 rpm, and suction set low, at bottom
of green.
I replaced our first one at 1100 hours, just because it had more than
1000,
and we flew a lot of IFR back then. I hear that one is still flying in a
Cherokee 5 years later! I was planning on flying this one until it quit.
But you
see....
Anyway, if you need a pump, I'd like to sell it for $100. I'll prorate
it
quarterly for a year. That is, if it fails in 7 months, I'll give you
back $50.
(I'm good for it, right Jack?)
If you don't fly much, don't fly IFR, and need a pump cheap, this is the
pump
for you. (Even if you fly a lot in IFR... but you might be squeamish.)
Be advised that the ports are in a slightly different location than the
standard Airborne units, and depending on your installation, you might
have to
shorten the fittings to clear the cowl. If you already fly with a
Sigma-Tek, then
obviously, this is a simple swap. They're not making this one any more -
in
favor of their $800 piston pump - so if you need a replacement Gold Seal
for the
future...
Runs CW or CCW.
Let me know if interested.
Mike Palmer <><
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | MPPalmer(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Re: Used vac pump, engine question |
Hi Jeff:
Was used on a Lyc O-320. I don't know enough to tell you if it will work on
your 540. The pump is basically equivalent to the 215CC, except it can also
spin CW, since the pump will work both ways.
Mike <><
> What engine was it used on ? I have a Lycoming IO540k1A5
>
> Jeff
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Bruce Gray" <Bruce(at)glasair.org> |
Subject: | Re: Used vac pump, engine question |
It will fit, although I would need to know more about that bidirectional
rotation. The VAC pad on the K1A5 is set for CC rotation. If you're going to
use the HYD pad (like I had to) you'll need CW rotation.
Bruce
www.glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
MPPalmer(at)aol.com
Subject: Glasair-List: Re: Used vac pump, engine question
Hi Jeff:
Was used on a Lyc O-320. I don't know enough to tell you if it will work on
your 540. The pump is basically equivalent to the 215CC, except it can also
spin CW, since the pump will work both ways.
Mike <><
> What engine was it used on ? I have a Lycoming IO540k1A5
>
> Jeff
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | MPPalmer(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Used vac pump - rotation spec |
Hi Bruce:
It rotates either way out of the box. The vanes are perpendicular to the
shaft, not angled like unidirectional pumps.
Mike <><
> It will fit, although I would need to know more about that bidirectional
> rotation.
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Bruce Gray" <Bruce(at)glasair.org> |
Subject: | Used vac pump - rotation spec |
OK, I seem to recall a pump that did that. I would however caution against
running a pump CW that had been used for a few hundred hours turning CC.
Bruce
www.glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
MPPalmer(at)aol.com
Subject: Glasair-List: Used vac pump - rotation spec
Hi Bruce:
It rotates either way out of the box. The vanes are perpendicular to the
shaft, not angled like unidirectional pumps.
Mike <><
> It will fit, although I would need to know more about that bidirectional
> rotation.
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Craymondw(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Re: Glasair-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 12/04/05 |
I have been flying aircraft since 1956 and working on them since 1957. I have
owned both fabric and sheet metal aircraft. I completed my Glasair in 1991
and I am constantly harassed about building a "plastic airplane." I don't like
aluminum aircraft because aluminum cracks, corrodes and fatigues. I was always
replacing cracked or corroded sheet metal and drilling out loose rivets and
treating the plane with zinc chromate to stop corrosion. Getting rid of
yesterdays technology and building today's technology, a Glasair, allowed me to
have
more flying time. The composite airframe of my Glasair requires no maintenance
at all. And unlike your aluminum planes, no Glasair has ever shed a wing! And
to you builders that like to throw the word "plastic" around...do you mean,
like the plastic fighter jets or the new all plastic airliners and corporate
jets on the production line?
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "david stroud" <dstroud(at)storm.ca> |
Subject: | IO520 300 hp for sale |
We have an IO 520 for available for sale.300 hp, zero time, new crank, new cycles
all factory done. Full logs and paper trail, accessories. If interested, pls email
direct to :
dstroud(at)storm.ca thanks..
David Stroud
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Subject: | All New BBS Interface For Matronics List Forums! |
Dear Listers,
I'm very proud to announce a completely new BBS interface is now available for
all of the Email Lists at Matronics! This is a full-featured system that allows
for viewing, posting, attachments, polls - the works.
But the best part is that it is *completely* integrated with all of the existing
email tools currently available at Matronics! What this means at the most basic
level is that, if you post a message to List from Email in the traditional
way, it will show up on the BBS system *and* get distributed to everyone currently
subscribed to the Email List. By the same token, if you are on the BBS
and post a message to a given List-Forum, the message will not only show up on
the BBS, but also be distributed to everyone on the Email List!!
It is really a very nice implementation and I am very pleased with its operation.
All of the tools you have come to know and love such as the List Search Engine
and List Browse and Download will still be available and contain all of the
latest posts. Think of the new BBS interface as just another method of accessing
the all of the Lists.
You can use the BBS to view all of the latest posts without having to do anything
except use your browser to surf over to the site. You can view and look at
all of the various List's posts. If you want to post a new message or reply
to an existing message from the BBS, you will have to Register on the BBS. This
is a *very* simple process and will only take a couple of minutes. There is
a small icon in the upper righthand side of the main BBS page labeled "Register"
to get you started.
I strongly recommend that you use the exact *same* email address you are subscribed
to the Email Lists with when registering on the BBS. Also, while not an
absolute requirement, I would really appreciate it if people would use their full
name when choosing their Username on the BBS (for example "Matt Dralle").
This just makes it easier for everyone to know who's posting. Also, I have enabled
the ability to upload a small user picture with your profile called an
"avatar". Please use a *real* picture of yourself *with* your cloths on! Thank
you! Maximum size of the bitmap is 120x120.
You can either be subscribed to the BBS, or any number of Email Lists, or both.
Registering on the BBS will allow you to email directly to all of the various
Lists. However, to receive direct List Email, you will need to be *subscribed*
to the various Lists as you have in the past. No changes here in operation.
I have added numerous links on the BBS pointing to the Email List subscription
page.
I've had the BBS connected to the Lists for about a week now, so its already loaded
up with a fair number of messages. You can post photos and other documents
directly to the BBS and links to them will appear in the List Email distributions.
Also, when any messages posted to the BBS are viewed in the List Email
distribution, there will be a URL link at the bottom of the message pointing
back to the BBS.
And here's what you've been waiting for -- the main URL for the new Matronics Email
List BBS is:
http://forums.matronics.com
Please surf on over, Register, and have a great time! I think this will be the
dawn of a whole new era for the Lists at Matronics!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Subject: | Six New Email Lists / Forums At Matronics! |
Dear Listers,
Its my pleasure to announce the addition of six new Email List / Forums to the
aviation line up at Matronics! These new lists support all the usual features
you've come to know and love from the Matronics Email List including full integration
with the All New Web BBS Forums Site!! The new Lists include:
LycomingEngines-List Textron/Lycoming Engines
RotaxEngines-List Rotax Engine for Aircraft
M14PEngines-List Vendenyev M14P Radial Engine
MurphyMoose-List Murphy Moose Aircraft
Allegro-List Allegro 2000, a Czech-built, Rotax-powered Aircraft
Falco-List Sequoia Aircraft's Falco Experimental
To sign up for any or all of the new Lists, surf over to the Matronics Email List
Subscription Form and follow the instructions:
http://www.matronics.com/subscribe
Don't forget to check out the All New Web BBS Forum now available along with all
of the usual message and archive viewing tools at the Matronics Email Lists
site. Surf over to the following URL for information on the BBS Forum:
http://forums.matronics.com
Enjoy the new Lists!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | david michaud <d.michaud(at)web.de> |
Hi All!
I have the Glasair N31BC,S/N 3177,Stationed Europe.
I have a problem with spongy brakes,I have pedals with intergrated
brake extention,I have bled the brake system so noair is in it,However
it is still
spongy,I have cleveland 10-19D master cylinders installed. is there any
thing better perhaps? Any one have an idea how to make the brakes more
solid. any help would be appricated
Thanx Dave
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Craymondw(at)aol.com |
Pump fluid into the calipers. I have the same problem and the air usually
works its way out.
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Bruce Gray" <Bruce(at)glasair.org> |
Normally the best way to bleed brakes is from the bottom up. With a pressure
pot at the wheels.
Bruce
www.glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Craymondw(at)aol.com
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: Glasair-List: Brakes
Pump fluid into the calipers. I have the same problem and the air usually
works its way out.
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From: | "Robin Young" <robin02(at)mindspring.com> |
I have a problem with spongy brakes,I have pedals with intergrated
brake extention,I have bled the brake system so noair is in it,However
it is still
spongy,I have cleveland 10-19D master cylinders installed. is there any
thing better perhaps? Any one have an idea how to make the brakes more
solid. any help would be appricated
Thanx Dave
Try pulling the peddle back all the way so the shaft is at max extension.
Also, if you suspect the air is in the caliper, pump some fluid out before
attaching the bleed tube. A ten CC syringe is very helpful in removing
fluid from the reservoir as the bleeding done. RObin 286YM
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From: | Walter Casey <mikec(at)caseyspm.com> |
Subject: | Anywhere Wx 4-sale |
I have a complete "Anywhere Map" WX weather system which I purchased
at Oshkosh 2005. It is a moving map with Approach Plates, SIDS and
STARS.
It uses the HP IPAQ display.
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The system currently sells for $1,895
http://www.anywheremap.com/SearchResult.aspx?CategoryID=3D32
I have the original box, manuals, everything.
It is yours for $1,200 or Best Offer
I am selling because I am buying the $8,500 Grand Rapids weather system.
My tail number is N311WT
Contact me at
* Mike Casey *
* 6528 S. Oneida Ct. *
* Centennial, CO 80111-4617 USA *
* *
* Phone (303) 771-0815 *
* FAX (303) 220-1477 *
* eMail mikec(at)caseyspm.com *
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From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Subject: | Matronics Email List Wiki! |
Dear Listers,
I have added a new feature to the Email List Forums at Matronics called a Wiki. What's "Wiki" you ask? A Wiki is a website. You go to it and browse just like you would any other web site. The difference is, you can change it. You can put anything you want on this web site without having to be a web designer or even being the owner. You can write a new page just like writing an email message on the BBS. You don't need to send it off to anyone to install on the site. It is kind of like a Blog (weblog) in which anyone can post. Here is a great page on where the term Wiki came from and what it means in the context of a website: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki
So on to the new Matronics Email List Wiki... I've created this site for anyone
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From: | "Rob Goldman" <robatc(at)comcast.net> |
Subject: | Partner wanted - Oakland, CA or Livermore |
I know it's a long shot, but I'm ready to buy a used Glasair and could use a
partner. I will probably fly 50-70 hours a year. I'm a CFII, over 1000
hours, over 200 retract and work most weekends. I live near OAK and work out
of LVK. I need a two-seater that is fast. So if you want to put up about
$10,000 and can handle a $500/month loan payment, please contact me.
I can be contacted via email at robatc(at)comcast.net
Rob Goldman
robatc(at)comcast.net
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From: | Craymondw(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Re: Partner wanted - Oakland, CA or Livermore |
You can buy a GL3 and have a $500/month payment without a partner
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From: | Craymondw(at)aol.com |
Would someone please tell me how Bruce Hammer gets a cruise of 258mph out of
a Glasair 1TD with a 180 HP carburetored engine with a fixed pitch prop!! I
can barely get 210 mph out of a 200HP GL2S FT. My plane is only as fast as a
dirty RV6.
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From: | "Ken Johnson" <glasair(at)epix.net> |
Hi Chuck,
Haven't heard from you or Debbie in a while. Hope all is well.
Bruce Hammer has done a beautiful clean up job all over his Glasair as
has his brother. I have seen them up close and watched them fly a demo
flight at OSH. They are very impressive to say the least.
Take care,
Ken Johnson
----- Original Message -----
From: <Craymondw(at)aol.com>
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 11:43 AM
Subject: Glasair-List: Glasair 1TD
>
> Would someone please tell me how Bruce Hammer gets a cruise of 258mph out
> of
> a Glasair 1TD with a 180 HP carburetored engine with a fixed pitch prop!!
> I
> can barely get 210 mph out of a 200HP GL2S FT. My plane is only as fast as
> a
> dirty RV6.
>
>
>
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From: | John Markey <markeypilot(at)yahoo.com> |
Subject: | Need new Front wheel pant |
I own a FT Glasair II. I busted up my front wheel pant last night.
[It wasn't secured to the axle enough to take a cross runway intersection
bump at 70 mph !]
Does anyone know if and where I might be able to buy a new one?
Thanks,
John Markey
GII N661CC
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Subject: | Re: Need new Front wheel pant |
From: | Dj Merrill <deej(at)deej.net> |
John Markey wrote:
>
> I own a FT Glasair II. I busted up my front wheel pant last night.
> [It wasn't secured to the axle enough to take a cross runway intersection
> bump at 70 mph !]
>
> Does anyone know if and where I might be able to buy a new one?
>
>
Glasair Aviation?
-Dj
--
Dj Merrill - N1JOV
Glastar Sportsman 2+2 Builder #7118
http://econ.duke.edu/~deej/sportsman/
"Many things that are unexplainable happen during the construction of an
airplane." --Dave Prizio, 30 Aug 2005
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From: | "Robin Young" <robin02(at)mindspring.com> |
It has been a few years since I last raced with Steve and Bruce but, as I
recall both had moved the motors forward and the tail back. They both claim
a reduced plate area by doing this. Also, with 4-2-1 exhaust, a gain of 15
HP is likely and by running 3,000 RPM another 21 Hp is there. Likely, they
are getting up above 3200 at that speed with a 68x68 prop. So, likely the
180Hp assumed is really around 240HP. Still, 258 closed course is fast.
Robin Young 286YM.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Craymondw(at)aol.com
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 11:43 AM
Subject: Glasair-List: Glasair 1TD
Would someone please tell me how Bruce Hammer gets a cruise of 258mph out of
a Glasair 1TD with a 180 HP carburetored engine with a fixed pitch prop!! I
can barely get 210 mph out of a 200HP GL2S FT. My plane is only as fast as a
dirty RV6.
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From: | Craymondw(at)aol.com |
Thanks for the info
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From: | Craymondw(at)aol.com |
Ken,
Debbie and I thought that you fell off the face of the earth!! How are
you?!! My son married in early April and we flew our plane out to El Paso,
Texas to his wedding. After the wedding we flew up to Durango, Colorado. My son
is
a captain of an Airbus A300. He just turned forty and is considering giving
up being an airline captain and working for a pharmaceutical company. Deborah's
mother came down for a visit last week and we drove her up to the Biltmore
estate and stayed at the Biltmore Inn. This weekend we are flying down to Destin
Florida and staying with a friend that just bought a Glasair3 that was owned
by an airline CEO. Our friend wants Debbie and I to fly the plane. He also
owns a Glasair 2 that he built. He opted for a McCauley propellar and is 10mph
faster than ours. The previous owner had close to $300,000 invested in the
Glasair three and sold it to my friend for $129,000. The bottom has fallen out
of
the Glasair market and Debbie and I have been placing bids on Glasair threes.
Next week we will be flying up to Harpers Ferry to stay on my Brothers' 200
acre estate.
We bought a beautiful European stucco house with huge Paladian windows
that over looks gorgeous gardens. We have had more visitors in the past three
years, than we had in the fifteen years we lived in Connecticut. Our guest
bedroom has a $7,000 hand carved mahogany French Queen sized bed with a custom
made
bedspread that Debbie paid an additional $2,000 for. The gardens looking out
of the huge guest bedroom picture window are spectacular. The previous owner
was a garden fanatic and spent tens of thousands on the property. Female
visitors hate leaving and often shed tears.
Debbie opened up a new salon in the fashionable Historic District of
wealthy Roswel, Georgia. The location was formerly an art gallery and Debbie kept
the theme and enhanced upon it. Now she has the most fashionable salon in the
suburbs of Atlanta. I did all the construction, building walls, plumbing,
electrical, tile flooring, installing water heaters, designer ladies room,
ceiling, woodwork trimming and stations. I estimated that I saved her close to
$100,000. The shop has been an overwhelming success from day one. Debbie no longer
drives her Porsche and we use it as a second car. She has been driving a fully
equipped, Diamond white Eldorado. If you wish to meet up with us, give us a
call on 770-517-5558.
Say Hi to Judy..........
Chuck Raymond
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From: | MPPalmer(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Update on crack in Glasair FT inboard strut attach bracket |
Remember last year, when I posted a photo of a hairline crack in our Glasair
FT gear bracket? I stop drilled the crack, which seems to have worked for the
year, but decided to fix the crack this year.
When I pulled the bracket (not as easy as it sounds), I found bent ears.
Hmmm... could this be why the cracks? But what bent the ears? Is there a design
flaw in the Glasair FT design? Could your brackets be next?
You can read (and see) all the gory details at
www.members.cox.net/mppalmer
Lots of pictures. Would appreciate any theories. Cliff (Faber) says it's the
first example of cracking there he's seen. (That was as of last year.)
Mike Palmer <><
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From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Subject: | Matronics BBS Forums |
Hello Listers,
I just wanted to send out a reminder to all of the Listers regarding the new-ish
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From: | "Robin Young" <robin02(at)mindspring.com> |
Subject: | Update on crack in Glasair FT inboard strut attach bracket |
When I pulled the bracket (not as easy as it sounds), I found bent ears.
Hmmm... could this be why the cracks? But what bent the ears? Is there a
design
flaw in the Glasair FT design? Could your brackets be next?
Mike Palmer <><
Mike, I too tore the brackets on my TD. Stoddard Hamilton looked at them and
said it was due to the plating that I had done. This made sense to me and
the new gear and brackets have held up nicely. Robin Young 286YM
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From: | MPPalmer(at)aol.com |
Hi Robin:
You guys with the original kits were the true pioneers. In our case, a lot
was done for us and the gear brackets came cad plated from the factory,
presumably heated to eliminate hydrogen embattlement.
As I theorized on the webpage, I think the cracking here was in response to
whatever force was causing the ears to bend inward. Perhaps we had a rough
landing somewhere where that end of the gear slammed back and forth in the box?
Hard to imagine, since we land on improved strips (except for once).
What does that say about the attachment at the B rib? (There doesn't appear
to be any slop in the gear, especially at the Outboard Attach Bracket.) I'm
still scratching my head, trying to understand what caused the ears to bend.
Mike <><
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From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Subject: | Two New Email Lists at Matronics and Wiki Reminder! |
Dear Listers,
I have added two new email Lists to the Matronics Line up today. These include
a Continental engine List and a Lightning aircraft List:
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Everything related to the Continental aircraft engine. Sky's the limit on discussions
here.
===========
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lightning-list(at)matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List
This is an exciting new design from Arion Aircraft LLC in Shelbyville Tennessee. Pete Krotje has a very nice web site on the aircraft that can be found here: http://www.arionaircraft.com/
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From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Subject: | List Enclosure Support |
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From: | Craymondw(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Re: Glasair-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 06/06/06 |
I built a Glaisair2S Ft with an IO360 200hp engine. The engine has 960 hours
on it. As I was making my take off roll at my local home town airport, I
noticed the engine appeared to be running a little rough. About 100 feet in the
air, the engine appeared to be developing only 70% of its power. The engine
wasn't back firing. I leveled out at 200 feet and noticed my airspeed had fallen
to
85 mph and put the nose down to gain airspeed. After turning left towards a
cotton field, I could see that I could keep some altitude by keeping the nose
down to maintain airspeed and decided to make a right down wind. I had the
option of the down wind and the cotton field. By the time I approached a left base
my altitude was only 100 feet. I didn't think I had enough airspeed or
altitude to turn to final and decided that I would land on the grass on a diagonal
to the runway. About 500 feet from where I planned on touching down and about
fifty feet in the air, the engine suddenly developed full power. I circled the
airport and climbed up to 4,000 feet. Everything seemed fine and I flew twenty
miles for fuel. The engine ran smooth on the take off from that airport and
ran smooth to my destination and back to home base. Before this problem I
changed the fuel filter, air filter, oil (added AVBLEND), and cleaned my plugs
and
the injector screen. Fram no longer makes my fuel filter and I have been
using a NAPA NASCAR filter for the past two filter changes. I did notice that my
fuel flow on the departures had dropped from my usual 18 gallons per hour to
just above 14 gallons per hour. I removed the injectors, cleaned them and
reinstalled them. The fuel flow has returned to the 18 gallons per hour. Anybody
have any ideas what may have happened?
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From: | "Bruce Gray" <Bruce(at)glasair.org> |
Subject: | Re: Glasair-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 06/06/06 |
I would remove the Fram filter and replace it with an Andair gascolator.
http://www.andair.co.uk/system/index.html
Bruce
www.glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Craymondw(at)aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 10:56 AM
Subject: Glasair-List: Re: Glasair-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 06/06/06
I built a Glaisair2S Ft with an IO360 200hp engine. The engine has 960
hours
on it. As I was making my take off roll at my local home town airport, I
noticed the engine appeared to be running a little rough. About 100 feet
in
the air, the engine appeared to be developing only 70% of its power. The
engine wasn't back firing. I leveled out at 200 feet and noticed my
airspeed
had fallen to 85 mph and put the nose down to gain airspeed. After
turning
left towards a cotton field, I could see that I could keep some altitude
by
keeping the nose down to maintain airspeed and decided to make a right
down
wind. I had the option of the down wind and the cotton field. By the
time I
approached a left base my altitude was only 100 feet. I didn't think I
had
enough airspeed or altitude to turn to final and decided that I would
land
on the grass on a diagonal to the runway. About 500 feet from where I
planned on touching down and about fifty feet in the air, the engine
suddenly developed full power. I circled the airport and climbed up to
4,000
feet. Everything seemed fine and I flew twenty miles for fuel. The
engine
ran smooth on the take off from that airport and ran smooth to my
destination and back to home base. Before this problem I changed the
fuel
filter, air filter, oil (added AVBLEND), and cleaned my plugs and the
injector screen. Fram no longer makes my fuel filter and I have been
using
a NAPA NASCAR filter for the past two filter changes. I did notice that
my
fuel flow on the departures had dropped from my usual 18 gallons per
hour
to just above 14 gallons per hour. I removed the injectors, cleaned them
and reinstalled them. The fuel flow has returned to the 18 gallons per
hour.
Anybody have any ideas what may have happened?
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From: | "John Burnaby" <jonlaury(at)impulse.net> |
Subject: | 12 V Electric Trim Kit for Glasair $450 |
Brackets and control arm assembled but the trim kit was never installed.
Email me for photos.
Glasair gets $630 for it.
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From: | Jim Burley <j.r.burley(at)larc.nasa.gov> |
Subject: | Re: 12 V Electric Trim Kit for Glasair $450 |
I'm interested - pics please - I've got a I-FT with lots of II mods
under construction. The wing is complete and closed-up.
On Jun 7, 2006, at 2:31 PM, John Burnaby wrote:
> Brackets and control arm assembled but the trim kit was never
> installed. Email me for photos.
> Glasair gets $630 for it.
>
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From: | MPPalmer(at)AOL.COM |
Hi Craymondw:
I'm confused by your lack of power description. It sounds like you had to be
developing much LESS than 70% power if you were struggling to maintain
altitude. (Unless you're at 8000 MSL or higher, but we know that can't be, since
you
circled at 4000.) I mean, we cruise at 65% power on a 160HP engine and see 140
KIAS down low. We can maintain altitude at 15 inches. If you have a 200 HP
engine, you should have been able to climb just fine at 70%. So it sounds like
you must have been really low on power. (Although your 14 GPH is confusing
too... that's what we see on takeoff with 160HP!)
When you say FRAM no longer sells the filter... are we talking about the FRAM
HPG-1 unit S/H started selling in the GII kits? If so, Summit Racing has the
elements. So does NAPA. We've been flying 2500 hours with those. Absolutely no
problems.
If that's the filter, there're some precautions about double washers and the
like that come with the filters. (You remove one so there's no doubling.)
There's also a "trick" to making sure the filter housing seats against the O ring
in the top part. (Rock the housing around as you tighten the center bolt.)
Does your housing have the old Stat-O-Seal, or did you change over to the copper
washer?
My guess is you were sucking air in your system, perhaps from maintenance on
the filter. Something vibrated into place and sealed the system. Either that,
or, during maintenance of the fuel system, some junk broke free and blocked
something down the line. My procedure after working on the fuel system is to
disconnect the hose to the carb (spider in your case) and purge the system for
a
few seconds into a glass jar to check for debris. Vapor lock also comes to
mind, although not classic vapor lock, where the fuel boils, but vapor lock as
in
air trapped in a hot part of the system.
You've got big ones... even tho your engine suddenly came to life and you
circled at 4000 for a while, I would have landed to find out what was wrong
before heading out 20 miles for fuel. I suggest you go back to the filter and make
sure everything is tight and purge the line. Maybe check the spider finger
screen too.
(One other possibility, not causal with the maintenance you described... you
could have a rubber flap in a fuel hose if you're using 303 style hose. Yours
is a classic symptom of the flap acting like a valve to shut off flow.)
Hope this helps,
Mike Palmer <><
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From: | Craymondw(at)aol.com |
Hi,
Thanks for your suggestions. I guess I wasn't very clear. The very
beginning of the problem started on the take off roll just before lift off and
became
worse as we gained altitude. My homebase airport is 750 feet above sea level.
The highest altitude we obtained was less than 1,000 feet or 250 feet above
ground. It was at this point the power out put dropped to what I would guess
was 30% power.
I stopped using the washers on the filter elements years ago. After
installing the new filter I pressure tested the fuel filter assembly for leaks.
I
thought about the possibility of a flap in a fuel line. I haven't replaced them
since 1997.
I have a fuel injected engine and my fuel flow is normally 18 gallons per
hour under full rich and full throttle. I took note that it had dropped to a
little over 14 gallons/hour. After the loss of power, I cleaned the injectors
with Hoppes #9, reinstalled them and test flew the plane. On that test flight
the full power fuel flow went back to 18 gallons per hour.
I talked to the man that sold me the engine and he said he remember
something like this years ago on a Super Cub. He went on to say that after
inspecting everything it was determined that a piece of carbon may have broken
way and
temporarily messed up a valve seat. I had something like this happen in a
Decathlon back in the 1980s. But that plane back fired and mine didn't. We landed
the plane and ran the engine at full power and leaned the heck out of the
engine until we burned away the problem.
Another thing I forgot to mention was that I noticed a soft cylinder on a
cold pull through. I removed the plugs from that cylinder and sprayed in WD40
and hit the valves with a rubber mallet. A few mechanics think the WD40 may
have loosened carbon. I followed through with a hot engine compression test and
all cylinders were 80/80. One mechanic feels that I may have worn valve
guides and carbon has infiltrated the guides and may be jamming a valve on the
cold
cylinder. I added AVBLEND to the gas and will add Marvel Mystery oil to the
header tank. I have 960 hours on this set of cylinders with the hope that if it
is a valve jamming in a guide, it will loosen up. I used Champion Spark Plug
thread Lube and some think I may have shorted some of the plugs and that when
it burned off, the engine regained power.
I broke my own maintenance rule by performing a multitude of tasks. I only
like doing one task at a time because if something goes wrong that task
becomes suspicious. I recently returned from two long flights out west, One to
Utah and One to El Paso Texas, then up to Durango Colorado. I had an up coming
trip Fort Walton Beach Florida and knew that I was behind on several engine
services and decided to do them all at once.
Thanks for your suggestions
Chuck Raymond
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From: | Craymondw(at)aol.com |
Hi,
When you say Spider Finger screen, do you mean the finger screen in the
injector throttle body?
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | MPPalmer(at)aol.com |
Subject: | On Return To Service Flights |
Just a general thought, spawned from yesterday's discussion:
Do you know what the most dangerous flight is? It's the "return to service"
flight. That's when the Concord caught on fire.... they had just done
maintenance on an afterburner. (But are trying to claim tire debris caused the
problem.)
In general, you've just changed something on an otherwise fine working
airplane. We ought to treat these flights as "first flights." Even for something
as
simple as an oil change.
We had a guy here answer a cell call while screwing on an oil filter. He's
dead now. He forgot to tighten it fully after his telephone call, took off for
a
return to service flight. He lost oil pressure and crashed on final trying to
return to the airport. Inspectors found a trail of oil from his hangar to the
runup area.
Hope this helps,
Mike Palmer <><
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From: | Craymondw(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Re: On Return To Service Flights |
Now I can see why some owners say; "If it ain't broke don't fix it!!" I
started flying in small planes in 1955 and was sitting right seat in two separate
landing crashes. Another time I was sitting right seat when the plane we were
flying went into a spin in the middle of the night while in a blinding snow
storm. And one other time I had an oil cooler hose blow while over a huge lake
on
a return flight from Oshkosh. I once had a Pitts Special lose an aileron
bolt on final and when I landed and got out I found that all the new self locking
nuts for the aileron bolts were about to fall off. I replaced all of the
bolts with castle nuts and carter pins. I had just replaced the self locking nuts
and later found out they were bogus. When I first completed my Glasair I had a
right brake fire that set the wheel pant on fire. I have also lost vacuum
pumps, alternator belts and radios at the worse time. Flying is dangerous and
over the years I have lost several good acquaintances in crashes. I am often
mocked for "Over Maintaining" my plane.
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From: | MPPalmer(at)aol.com |
Hi Chuck:
We've pretty much covered what could have been wrong with your engine... one
thing I'd be curious to know, that would give some insight... do you have
mulitprobe CHT/EGT and were you able to sneak a glance during any of this?
Mike <><
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Subject: | Re: On Return To Service Flights |
From: | Dj Merrill <deej(at)deej.net> |
Craymondw(at)aol.com wrote:
> I am often mocked for "Over Maintaining" my plane.
Let them mock. There is no such thing as "over-maintaining" a plane
IMHO.
If you are not comfortable with it, don't fly it.
-Dj
--
Dj Merrill - N1JOV
Glastar Sportsman 2+2 Builder #7118
http://econ.duke.edu/~deej/sportsman/
"Many things that are unexplainable happen during the construction of an
airplane." --Dave Prizio, 30 Aug 2005
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Craymondw(at)aol.com |
Hi,
For the first 100 hours or so of running the engine, I borrowed a portable
engine probe to monitor the cylinders and found them all to be close. After
doing that, I installed only single probes on the hottest cylinder.
Since the incident I have put another fifteen hours on the engine. At
cruise the engine appears to be running smooth. But I find I have to make slight
adjustments to the mixture and prop control. The idle appears to be rougher
than usual, especially when I get it down around 1,100 RPM.
I read an article about induction leaks. The article said that at 650/750
RPM an engine should only be pulling 10 inches of manifold pressure. Mine pulls
15 inches at 850 RPM and the engine wants to quit. When I manage to get it to
650 RPM the manifold pressure shoots up to 18/20 inches and just about quits.
I am sure the low rpm mixture is set right.
My return trip back from Washington was a white knuckle trip. To avoid
building thunderstorms, I had to fly the whole return trip on top an over
cast over the Blue Ridge Mountains all the way back to Atlanta. Just as I reached
the Harris VOR Fight control advised that I land at the nearest airport
because of thunderstorms and blinding heavy rain. "Blinding rain" rain was a first
for me. Several aircraft were just circling out side the system and watching
it on their storm scopes. I had to land because I only had a few gallons left
in my main tank and my header had only 5 1/2 gallons.
Chuck Raymond
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | david michaud <d.michaud(at)web.de> |
I have a Glasair III with composite prop at idle it has problems to run
smoothly,do you have a composite prop also .
Dave
Craymondw(at)aol.com schrieb:
> Hi,
> For the first 100 hours or so of running the engine, I borrowed a
> portable engine probe to monitor the cylinders and found them all to
> be close. After doing that, I installed only single probes on the
> hottest cylinder.
> Since the incident I have put another fifteen hours on the engine.
> At cruise the engine appears to be running smooth. But I find I have
> to make slight adjustments to the mixture and prop control. The idle
> appears to be rougher than usual, especially when I get it down around
> 1,100 RPM.
> I read an article about induction leaks. The article said that at
> 650/750 RPM an engine should only be pulling 10 inches of manifold
> pressure. Mine pulls 15 inches at 850 RPM and the engine wants to
> quit. When I manage to get it to 650 RPM the manifold pressure shoots
> up to 18/20 inches and just about quits. I am sure the low rpm mixture
> is set right.
> My return trip back from Washington was a white knuckle trip. To
> avoid building thunderstorms, I had to fly the whole return trip on
> top an over cast over the Blue Ridge Mountains all the way back to
> Atlanta. Just as I reached the Harris VOR Fight control advised that
> I land at the nearest airport because of thunderstorms and blinding
> heavy rain. "Blinding rain" rain was a first for me. Several aircraft
> were just circling out side the system and watching it on their storm
> scopes. I had to land because I only had a few gallons left in my main
> tank and my header had only 5 1/2 gallons.
>
> Chuck Raymond
>
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Craymondw(at)aol.com |
I have a Hartzel metal prop
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From: | "Shinden33" <shinden33(at)earthlink.net> |
Subject: | Blue Mountain EFIS |
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I own Yak-52 and am considering adding a Blue Mountain EFIS/LITE gen 4 to my
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From: | "Rob Goldman" <robatc(at)comcast.net> |
Subject: | Sun screen? Shades? |
Hi,
I'm looking for the shades, or sun screens people are using, or have found
for the inside of a Glasair II. Does anyone have a source, or solution that
they could recommend? Thanks in advance.
______________________________________
Rob Goldman
(cell) 510-366-9085)
robatc(at)comcast.net
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Rob Goldman" <robatc(at)comcast.net> |
Subject: | Glasair IIS - RG Checklist |
Sorry for the dup posts. I'm picking up a Glasair IIS - RG next week and was
wondering if anyone could share a checklist that they've used (at least as a
starting point).
Regards.
______________________________________
Rob Goldman
(cell) 510-366-9085
robatc(at)comcast.net
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | MPPalmer(at)AOL.COM |
Subject: | Update on FT bracket crack |
I posted this update yesterday, but if it made it on the list, I missed it.
So a possible duplicate posting.
I updated my ad-hoc page on the FT landing gear bracket crack with more
photos, more text, and some more data that might get us closer to understanding
what caused the cracks in the first place.
members.cox.net/mppalmer
Click on Gear Bracket Crack and drill down to the middle.
Hope this helps,
Mike Palmer <><
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Craymondw(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Re: Glasair IIS - RG Checklist |
"When landing put down the landing gear"
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Delamarter, Jon" <JDelamarter(at)lycoming.textron.com> |
Subject: | Lycoming Thunderbolt Engines |
To All:
I am new to the Matronics email list and would like to introduce myself. My
name is Jon A. Delamarter. I hold an A&P license and a degree in aircraft
maintenance from Spartan School of Aeronautics (Tulsa, OK). I have been
married for more than my adult life (since 19) and have the world's most
wonderful wife and the 4 most beautiful and intelligent daughters that God
ever created. (My dog's pretty smart too.) I have about 50 hours of dual
in my logbook but have not soloed due to a disagreement between me and Uncle
Sam regarding my medical. As a certified airplane freak and airport bum, I
might just hold some sort of record for "Most Types Flown Before Solo." I
am particularly proud of the fact that I have T-6 aerobatic instruction on
the first page of my logbook! My professional aviation career began upon
graduation from Spartan on December 17, 1999. In the short 6 years since,
I have enjoyed an unbelievably rewarding life. With the blessings of loving
family support, an excellent education, and an absolute dedication to
excellence, I have experienced career satisfaction and growth that I could
not have imagined. If you love this business, it will be good to you! If
you don't love it, get out. If I have learned one thing thus far, it is
this: It's always about the people! I have no idea how many of you will
read this email, but I want you to know something. You aviation folks are
my family. I am proud and humbled to be part of you.
Having said all that, and at the risk of sounding crassly commercial, I'd
love to tell you folks about what I'm doing now. As of February 1st of this
year, it has been my privilege to serve as manager of Lycoming's brand-new
experimental hot-rod shop, Thunderbolt Engines. As you know, the absence of
Lycoming's direct participation in the past has not prevented the dominance
of our brand in the experimental market. We owe this not only to those
designers who build their aircraft around our engine, but also and perhaps
even more so, to the inherent reliability and simplicity of our engines.
The bottom line is that, although many of you are willing to experiment with
different aircraft designs and construction techniques, few have the desire
to step away from the known quantity of a Lycoming engine.
In recognition of this fact, Lycoming began a journey down a new road last
year with the introduction of the kit program. This program is responsible
for the influx of new experimental Lycoming based engines being sold by 6
shops across the country. With this move, Lycoming formally acknowledged
the credibility of the custom engine for the common man.
On April 5th of this year, at Sun-'n-Fun in Lakeland, FL, Lycoming made
public the next step in its journey by unveiling Thunderbolt Engines.
Thunderbolt Engines exists to provide homebuilders, race pilots, and
competition aerobatic pilots with a factory engineered, factory built,
factory supported, factory guaranteed custom engine. In the brief span of
time since the announcement, we have been pleased to learn that the first
reaction from most of our customers upon learning about Thunderbolt Engines
is shock followed immediately by excitement. The most common comments have
been something like, "I'm so glad you guys are finally doing this. I've
been waiting a long time and really didn't expect it to happen." After
recovering from their initial surprise, many builders have eagerly shared
their ideas and concepts for customizing our engines. There are a
significant number of builders who are willing to pay a fair price for a
factory experimental engine. This core group understands the importance of
supporting the customization process with proper and adequate engineering,
quality, assembly, and testing protocol. Thunderbolt Engines is housed in
the ATC (Advanced Technology Center) here at Lycoming. The ATC is still
under development and will eventually consist of four build cells, static
display areas, an aircraft integration laboratory, a customer/employee
training facility, and offices. Once completed, the ATC will be available
to you for tours and training. We are currently operational and are
delivering engines. The intent is to construct a state-of-the-art facility
Advancement. In plain English, we are creating, through the ATC, a
knowledge pool. We encourage you to challenge us with your requests and
ideas. We are discovering that many of our customers know a lot about our
product. Through our involvement in the kit program, we have developed
relationships with individuals and companies that have successfully and
responsibly modified our engines for many years. Through our customer
satisfaction surveys, we are gaining accurate, real-time Voice of the
Customer (VOC) data. We have gained experience and customer exposure
through our support of Reno racing and competition aerobatics. In addition,
Lycoming has made significant additions to its engineering staff. These
folks come from various backgrounds and bring fresh perspective and skills
to the table. By leveraging the data gathered from all these resources,
(customers, kit shops, customer surveys, racing/aerobatics, engineering,
etc.), we are building the knowledge pool. This data not only accelerates
our development technically, it also allows us to focus on developing those
products that best fulfill the needs of the customer.
The development of a Thunderbolt engine begins and ends with the Voice of
the Customer. Many builders call us requesting pricing for a specific
engine. While we certainly provide that information, we also attempt to
glean as much information as possible regarding specific aircraft
application and desired performance. From that data, we are frequently able
to provide the builder with several options, some of which they may not have
known existed. Through this process, we accomplish two things. First, we
match the builder with a custom solution that best accomplishes their stated
goal. Secondly, and equally important, we demonstrate our commitment to the
customer's best interests, rather than pushing a particular product. Our
customers have expressed a great deal of satisfaction with this process and
have been quick to differentiate us from the competition in this regard.
Thunderbolt Engines are currently segregated into three series: Signature,
Extreme, and Competition. A Thunderbolt Signature Series Engine is
differentiated from a certified, production engine in several ways. Like
all Thunderbolt Engines, Signature Series engines are constructed in
dedicated build cells by two man teams. In addition to being team built,
Signature engines are internally balanced and will be configured to the
customer's exact specifications. Items that may be customized range from
major configuration changes such as crankcase or crankshaft to fuel systems,
ignition systems, sumps, induction components, and turbocharging. Customers
will also choose from appearance options such as engine color(s), chrome,
etc. Billet aluminum components such as the prototype rocker covers
displayed at Sun-'n-Fun are in development but not yet online.
Representative of this series would be the engine built last year for Mike
Melville, the world's first civilian astronaut. This engine was an
O-360-A4M configured for updraft cooling and incorporating an experimental
Ellison fuel system. Mike operates this engine in a Long-EZ. Thunderbolt
Signature Series engines will receive a 2-year warranty. This is a real
warranty with real value.
Thunderbolt Extreme Series engines incorporate all the features of the
Signature Series and continue to the next level in terms of performance
upgrades. These items may consist of mildly increased compression ratio or
boost levels, or other yet to be defined upgrades. Thunderbolt Extreme
Series engines will receive a reduced warranty, due to the expected types of
operational dynamics.
Thunderbolt Competition Series engines incorporate all the features of the
Signature and Extreme Series and continue to the maximum level of
performance. These upgrades may consist of dramatically increased
compression ratio or boost levels, water injection, and/or other yet to be
defined upgrades. Representative of this group would be the engines built
for Jon Sharp's Nemesis NXT and Mike Jones' Glasair III. Also
representative of this group would be the engine we just shipped to Extra
for the new Mike Goulian airplane. This engine is an AEIO-580-L1B5 with
very special cylinders, pistons, and sparkplugs. Once fully broken in, we
are expecting 340-350 hp @ 2700 RPM and 11:1 compression. Walter Extra
reports unbelievable climb from an extremely smooth-running engine.
Competition Series engines will be limited to highly experienced pilots and
will require a signed agreement from the customer limiting his right to sell
or change ownership of the engine. Any such change would require Lycoming's
approval. The purpose of this constraint is to prevent the sale of a 340hp
AEIO-580 to a 40hr. Cessna driver! These engines are all out performance
machines, have no representation of reliability, and carry no warranty.
Okay, enough for the blurb. Let's get down to brass tacks. At not quite 32
years of age, I am smart enough to know that I'm still wet behind the ears!
I do not pretend to know everything there is to know about aircraft engines.
However, I absolutely believe in Lycoming Engines and stand ready to support
you in any way possible. I am here to serve as the conduit between you, the
builder, and the full support of Lycoming's able staff of engineers,
technicians, and support personnel. I want you to know that I share your
enthusiasm for our sport and that I hope for the opportunity to speak to
each of you. I will be at Arlington, Oshkosh, and Reno. Please drop by or
contact me with your questions and ideas. I will make every attempt to
answer your inquiry personally and in a timely fashion.
Sincerely,
Jon A. Delamarter
Thunderbolt Manager
Lycoming Engines
(570)327-7115
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Craymondw(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Re: Lycoming Thunderbolt Engines |
Yes, I have one question. When my 325HP V8 North Star four over head cam
complicated cam drive gear and complex ignition and injector system wore out after
200,000 miles, GM quoted me roughly $10,000 for a crated brand new engine.
Why is it that a simple, dirty, sloppy tolerances, glorified Volkswagen 4
cylinder Lycoming engine with a cast iron cam with no roller tappets cost $30,000
new and a factory rebuilt engine brought up to factory new cost $17,000?
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "steve korney" <s_korney(at)hotmail.com> |
Subject: | Re: Lycoming Thunderbolt Engines |
FAA. attorneys, and judges...
Best... Steve
----Original Message Follows----
Yes, I have one question. When my 325HP V8 North Star four over head cam
complicated cam drive gear and complex ignition and injector system wore out
after
200,000 miles, GM quoted me roughly $10,000 for a crated brand new engine.
Why is it that a simple, dirty, sloppy tolerances, glorified Volkswagen 4
cylinder Lycoming engine with a cast iron cam with no roller tappets cost
$30,000
new and a factory rebuilt engine brought up to factory new cost $17,000?
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Bruce Gray" <Bruce(at)glasair.org> |
Subject: | Lycoming Thunderbolt Engines |
Simple, economics of scale. I would be supprised if Lycoming makes 5,000
new
engines a year. Detroit turns out hundreds of thousands.
Bruce
www.glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Craymondw(at)aol.com
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 1:16 PM
Yes, I have one question. When my 325HP V8 North Star four over head cam
complicated cam drive gear and complex ignition and injector system wore
out
after 200,000 miles, GM quoted me roughly $10,000 for a crated brand new
engine. Why is it that a simple, dirty, sloppy tolerances, glorified
Volkswagen 4 cylinder Lycoming engine with a cast iron cam with no
roller
tappets cost $30,000 new and a factory rebuilt engine brought up to
factory
new cost $17,000?
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Givan, Max" <max.givan(at)ngc.com> |
Subject: | Lycoming Thunderbolt Engines |
GM does not have to get the FAA to micro manage and approve their every
move. I figure that accounts for most of the price difference.
Lets stop giving the FAA any more money! The less money they have, the
less they can intrude into our lives. With free enterprise and no FAA,
our overall flying costs would decrease by at least the 66% we see in
this example. Next - the oil companies and producers!
________________________________
[mailto:owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Craymondw(at)aol.com
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 10:16 AM
Yes, I have one question. When my 325HP V8 North Star four over head cam
complicated cam drive gear and complex ignition and injector system wore
out after 200,000 miles, GM quoted me roughly $10,000 for a crated brand
new engine. Why is it that a simple, dirty, sloppy tolerances, glorified
Volkswagen 4 cylinder Lycoming engine with a cast iron cam with no
roller tappets cost $30,000 new and a factory rebuilt engine brought up
to factory new cost $17,000?
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | MPPalmer(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Lycoming: So now we're "licensing" engines? |
Yikes. What schmoozing! (Man, that was one LONG press release.)
When Microsoft became a big player in software, the joke going around was
"What would it be like if GM sold cars the way Microsoft sells software?" Aside
from the ubiquitous "crashing" jokes, you would agree that you could only use
the car in certain way; that you wouldn't try to figure out how it worked or
modify the car; that it's not really your car anyway and that, if anything goes
wrong with "your" car, you can't sue GM. Your only remedy is to give the car
back to GM.
I was disappointed to see this "licensing" model trickle down to material
products when I bought parts from NewGlasair. We had to sign an agreement that
the parts weren't really mine, that I would only use them in ways approved by
NewGlasair, that I forfeit all legal remedies if the parts were bad, caused a
crash, etc. Even if GlasairAviation came out with an improved Glasair that was
30 kts faster, I wouldn't buy it with a licensing agreement.
So now Lycoming is going this way with some of their Thunderbolt engines? You
can only sell an engine with Lycoming's permission? So really, it's not your
engine, it's Lycoming's. They're just letting you borrow it.
We gotta get some common sense back on property rights and personal
responsibility. When I buy a hammer, it's my hammer. I can use it to nail as many
nails
as I want at my house or anyone else's. I can give it or sell it to anyone I
choose or use it in ways never approved by its manufacturer. (As a weapon, for
example, should a bad guy break into the house.)
So, no thanks Lycoming. I'll buy parts from Superior or ECi that are MY
parts. (And I won't have to wade through a pile of stuff when dealing with them.)
BTW, if Lycoming is really interested in the Voice of the Customer, it might
want to offer an 800 number for its Thunderbolt Manager.
Mike Palmer <><
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From: | Craymondw(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Re: Lycoming Thunderbolt Engines |
I wish I could remember her name, but I worked in Bridgeport Connecticut with
a lady that was a former production line supervisor for Lycoming. When I
asked her about the quality of the engines she just laughed and shook her head.
I
won't go into the details of what she said. I also knew an engineer and sales
rep for Lycoming and I don't think I should jeopardize his job by telling you
releasing his name. The engineer informed me that the best Lycoming engines
were produced prior to 1967 when Lycoming manufactured all their own parts. He
went on to say that the parts are now jobbed out to the lowest bidder.
Although Lycoming produces maybe 5,000 engines a year, the engine has hardly changed
since the 1930s. And they manufacture large quantities of replacement parts. I
would have to see what Lycoming pays for product liability on a balance sheet
before I would believe any of those claims. Many large firms find self
insuring to be far far cheaper than using insurance companies. A smooth as silk
brand new 220 HP four cylinder Franklin engine sells for a fraction of a Lycoming
engine. I would also like to mention that all of my planes have had Lycoming
engines and I found them reliable. What I feel is if Lycoming isn't able to
compete with the prices of new and better engines coming on the market, they
will lose market share and have to close their doors. This begs the question, if
Lycoming owns your engine and insurance on previous engines doubled the cost,
why aren't these engines selling for half the price?
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | John Markey <markeypilot(at)yahoo.com> |
Subject: | Re: Glasair IIS - RG Checklist |
Could someone with a Glasair FT send me jpegs of the front landing gear strut,
the wheel pant and how the gear attaches to the plane please?
markeypilot(at)yahoo.com
Thanks,
John Markey
GII N661CC
---------------------------------
at 1/min.
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From: | Craymondw(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Re: Glasair IIS - RG Checklist |
For the Glasair2S FT. There are two vertical ribs that are laminated to the
rear fire wall from beneath the header tank to the fuselage floor panel. (Make
sure that the hard foam re enforcement is long enough for the trunnion bolts
that pass through it) Note: you can get the distance of the inside of the ribs
by attaching the trunnion plates to the landing gear and taking a measurement.
The top of the gear attaches by a long bolt to those two trunnion plates.
Note: also use three bolts per trunnion at the rear attachment and use bolts
larger than 3/16 supplied by the kit. There is a platform that rests against the
bottom of the engine mount and that has two dampeners. Some builders locate the
position of those trunnion plates by supporting the tail with the wing
attached and the main landing gear assembled. And with the water line leveled,
next
the assembled nose gear is attached to the engine mount. From that, the
location for the trunnions are marked. Note: try not to have a nose down attitude
for prop clearance. Hope this helps. I have a friend with a 200 HP engine and a
McCauley prop from a Moony that cruises at 220 mph. Have fun.
________________________________________________________________________________
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Subject: | Matronics Email List Web Server Upgrade Tonight... |
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From: | NYTerminat(at)aol.com |
Hi
Anybody on this list? I am considering building a Sportsman 2+2, anybody out
there building one. I have previously built a Zenith CH-701 and am looking
for something with more speed and carrying capacity.
Bob Spudis
N701ZX CH701/912S
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: | Re: Sportsman 2+2 |
From: | Dj Merrill <deej(at)deej.net> |
NYTerminat(at)aol.com wrote:
> Hi
>
> Anybody on this list? I am considering building a Sportsman 2+2, anybody
> out there building one. I have previously built a Zenith CH-701 and am
> looking for something with more speed and carrying capacity.
>
> Bob Spudis
> N701ZX CH701/912S
Hi Bob,
I'm building a Glastar Sportsman 2+2, slow build wings and tail, QB
fuselage. I'd be glad to try to answer any questions you might have.
-Dj
--
Dj Merrill
Sportsman 2+2 Builder #7118
http://econ.duke.edu/~deej/sportsman/
"TSA: Totally Screwing Aviation"
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: | Re: Sportsman 2+2 |
From: | Dj Merrill <deej(at)deej.net> |
Kevin Williams wrote:
> For example $39,000x3 = $117000. Now go to say Maule's website and
> price out what a brand new 180hp or 235hp Maule m7 would go for and it
> really isn't much more. And in this case a Sportsman 2+2 compared to a
> 180 M7 the factory plane actually wins on alot of fronts.
>
> I think the kit sellers need to be a bit more cautions about their
> pricing and kit buyer need to take a step back and not assume that all
> kits regardless of final finish price are going to be cheaper and out
> preform factory. I'm forcasting a week interest in the 2+2 as it
> doesn't out preform certain factory built aircraft that are only
> marginally more expensive.
How much is it worth to be able to do all the work and annual condition
inspections on your own aircraft, or be able to put any equipment you
want in it, and customize it to your hearts content?
If someone is just looking for an airplane to fly, they aren't likely
to consider Experimentals anyways. It is the passion of being able to
get really involved in your airplane that drives people to Experimentals
(well, me at least, or that loose screw in my skull *grin*).
Performance was not the leading choice for me to select the Sportsman,
but having said that, I don't know of any factory certified aircraft
that can meet or exceed the Sportsman specs for the same price, even if
you went with the Two Weeks to Taxi program at $133k:
http://www.glasairaviation.com/sportsmanspecs.html
The Maule MX-7-180A Sportplane at $133k is close,
<http://www.mauleairinc.com/Our_Planes/Maule_MX-7-180A_and_180AC_Spor/maule_mx-7-180a_and_180ac_spor.html>
but it is 30+ mph slower, climbs about half as fast, and has a slightly
longer take-off and landing roll, but it does have about an 8 mph lower
stall speed. I don't think the wings fold back, which was an important
consideration for me with the Sportsman.
I guess it just depends on what you want. There are enough variety of
aircraft out there for everyone! :-)
-Dj
--
Dj Merrill
Sportsman 2+2 Builder #7118
http://econ.duke.edu/~deej/sportsman/
"TSA: Totally Screwing Aviation"
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Craymondw(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Re: Glasair-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 09/04/06 |
Why doesn't Glasair design a high performance plane like the Legacy and sell
it at a cheaper price? I can't understand anyone going through the expense and
pain of building a plane that doesn't far out perform a factory built plane.
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Craymondw(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Re: Glasair-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 09/03/06 |
The so called "passion" of building a plane completetly wears out and 90% of
the kits are never completed.
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Craymondw(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Re: Sportsman 2+2 |
I once asked the owner of Van's aircraft why his kits are so cheap. His reply
was why was everyone else's kits where so expensive!
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Craymondw(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Re: Sportsman 2+2 |
The designer of the T-18 aircraft, designed that plane to prove that
homebuilder's could easily build a high performance plane using a GPU at very a
reasonable price. I often felt it was Thorpe and not these expensive kit
manufacturers that gave the home builder movement the boost it needed. I feel these
sky
high kit prices will eventually bring about the collapse of many of these high
price kit companies.
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Kevin Williams" <kevinsky18(at)hotmail.com> |
Subject: | Re: Sportsman 2+2 |
Kevin
Yellowknife, Northwest Territories, Canada
All excellent points.
From: Craymondw(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Glasair-List: Sportsman 2+2
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 16:23:34 EDT
The designer of the T-18 aircraft, designed that plane to prove that
homebuilder's could easily build a high performance plane using a GPU at
very a
reasonable price. I often felt it was Thorpe and not these expensive kit
manufacturers that gave the home builder movement the boost it needed. I
feel these sky
high kit prices will eventually bring about the collapse of many of these
high
price kit companies.
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Bruce Gray" <Bruce(at)glasair.org> |
Perhaps you just don't have the economic muscle or persistance to be a
kit
builder.
Bruce
www.glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Craymondw(at)aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: Glasair-List: Sportsman 2+2
The designer of the T-18 aircraft, designed that plane to prove that
homebuilder's could easily build a high performance plane using a GPU at
very a reasonable price. I often felt it was Thorpe and not these
expensive
kit manufacturers that gave the home builder movement the boost it
needed. I
feel these sky high kit prices will eventually bring about the collapse
of
many of these high price kit companies.
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Kevin Williams" <kevinsky18(at)hotmail.com> |
What kind of pathetic insult is that? Economic muscle? Maybe the next
e-mail will poke fun at my small manhood. Please, try and be a bit more
intelligent in your debate and responses.
$40,000 for a bare bones kit is steep in my opinion and it has nothing to do
with how much money I have to spend, it has to do with $40,000 not being
reflective of what you get which is a bit of fiberglass and tubing.
Compare what type of car you could buy for $40,000 and you begin to see what
I mean.
In reality the kit has maybe $5000-$7000 worth of material. Even if the
price was doubled to $14000 for a nice heft profit margin it still doesn't
come close to the sticker price.
I'm not pooh poohing on kits, I like kits. I'm suggesting that if kit
builders continue to raise prices then sooner or later people will be faced
with the same situation as factory aircraft and that is a plane that is just
to cost prohibitive to build.
Saving money on maintenance is irrelevant if you cant afford to start or
finish the kit.
Bruce
www.glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Craymondw(at)aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: Glasair-List: Sportsman 2+2
The designer of the T-18 aircraft, designed that plane to prove that
homebuilder's could easily build a high performance plane using a GPU at
very a reasonable price. I often felt it was Thorpe and not these expensive
kit manufacturers that gave the home builder movement the boost it needed. I
feel these sky high kit prices will eventually bring about the collapse of
many of these high price kit companies.
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Bruce Gray" <Bruce(at)glasair.org> |
If you have to ask the price, you can't afford to play.
As a general rule of thumb, any manufacturer has to charge 3 times the cost
of finished goods to stay in business. That's without covering all the R&D
money it takes to develop the product.
Bruce
www.glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Williams
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 5:04 PM
Subject: RE: Glasair-List: Sportsman 2+2
What kind of pathetic insult is that? Economic muscle? Maybe the next
e-mail will poke fun at my small manhood. Please, try and be a bit more
intelligent in your debate and responses.
$40,000 for a bare bones kit is steep in my opinion and it has nothing to do
with how much money I have to spend, it has to do with $40,000 not being
reflective of what you get which is a bit of fiberglass and tubing.
Compare what type of car you could buy for $40,000 and you begin to see what
I mean.
In reality the kit has maybe $5000-$7000 worth of material. Even if the
price was doubled to $14000 for a nice heft profit margin it still doesn't
come close to the sticker price.
I'm not pooh poohing on kits, I like kits. I'm suggesting that if kit
builders continue to raise prices then sooner or later people will be faced
with the same situation as factory aircraft and that is a plane that is just
to cost prohibitive to build.
Saving money on maintenance is irrelevant if you can't afford to start or
finish the kit.
Bruce
www.glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Craymondw(at)aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: Glasair-List: Sportsman 2+2
The designer of the T-18 aircraft, designed that plane to prove that
homebuilder's could easily build a high performance plane using a GPU at
very a reasonable price. I often felt it was Thorpe and not these expensive
kit manufacturers that gave the home builder movement the boost it needed. I
feel these sky high kit prices will eventually bring about the collapse of
many of these high price kit companies.
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "noel anderson" <nandrand(at)xtra.co.nz> |
Subject: | Re: Sportsman 2+2 |
Bruce. Well said!!! It's the old saying," Make sure brain is engaged, before
opperating mouth"!!! Regards to all. Noel
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Williams" <kevinsky18(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 9:04 AM
Subject: RE: Glasair-List: Sportsman 2+2
>
>
> What kind of pathetic insult is that? Economic muscle? Maybe the next
> e-mail will poke fun at my small manhood. Please, try and be a bit more
> intelligent in your debate and responses.
>
> $40,000 for a bare bones kit is steep in my opinion and it has nothing to
> do with how much money I have to spend, it has to do with $40,000 not
> being reflective of what you get which is a bit of fiberglass and tubing.
>
> Compare what type of car you could buy for $40,000 and you begin to see
> what I mean.
>
> In reality the kit has maybe $5000-$7000 worth of material. Even if the
> price was doubled to $14000 for a nice heft profit margin it still doesn't
> come close to the sticker price.
>
> I'm not pooh poohing on kits, I like kits. I'm suggesting that if kit
> builders continue to raise prices then sooner or later people will be
> faced with the same situation as factory aircraft and that is a plane that
> is just to cost prohibitive to build.
>
> Saving money on maintenance is irrelevant if you can't afford to start or
> finish the kit.
>
>
> Bruce
> www.glasair.org
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> Craymondw(at)aol.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 4:24 PM
> To: glasair-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Glasair-List: Sportsman 2+2
>
>
> The designer of the T-18 aircraft, designed that plane to prove that
> homebuilder's could easily build a high performance plane using a GPU at
> very a reasonable price. I often felt it was Thorpe and not these
> expensive
> kit manufacturers that gave the home builder movement the boost it needed.
> I
> feel these sky high kit prices will eventually bring about the collapse of
> many of these high price kit companies.
>
>
> --
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Craymondw(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Re: Sportsman 2+2 |
I built an Oshkosh winning Glasair and I completed it in ten months...so kiss
my sweet a....
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Craymondw(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Re: Sportsman 2+2 |
Dear Bruce Gray,
Read the "Millionaire Next Door" and tell me that self made
millionaires don't ever ask the price! Only a fool would never ask the price. If
no one
asked the price, one could charge anything they want. First of all you need a
course in public relations because with smart ass replies like yours Glasair
corporation will certainly fail. You have no idea how much wealth me and my
family has or any one else for that matter. Secondly, I completed my Glasair in
1991 and had close to $95,000 in it and have since averaged twenty vacations a
year in the plane with our most recent flight from Atlanta to Durango
Colorado. My wife and I surpass the yearly time flown a year by the average aircraft
owner in just in a few weeks time. My brother and I are now looking into the
feasibility of building a landing strip on 350 family owned acres in the
Washington, DC suburbs. My other toys at the time of completion was an unlimited
S1S Pitts Special and a brand new Porsche and my wife now gets to ride around in
a Ferrari F430 Spider.
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Steve Kean" <stevekean(at)hotmail.com> |
Subject: | Re: Sportsman 2+2 |
Sorry I kicked the "kit-cost" tire. Just wanted to see who's out
there!
----- Original Message -----
From: Craymondw(at)aol.com
To: glasair-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 3:51 AM
Subject: Re: Glasair-List: Sportsman 2+2
I built an Oshkosh winning Glasair and I completed it in ten
months...so kiss my sweet a....
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Brian Alley <n320wt(at)yahoo.com> |
Subject: | Re: Sportsman 2+2 |
The options are there if the builder has the determination to build and fly. Kits are great if you want to or can pay extra for upto 51% of the labor completed for you. There is always plans built as the least expensive option. I built my W-10 Wittman Tailwind for $15,000 and 5 years of part time labor. The Tailwind is faster than most RV's and cost less to complete than the airframe kits from Vans. Kits certainly have there place but most anyone with determination can find a good airplane to build and afford to fly it when it's done. T-18's are neat airplanes but Wittman put the first 2 place on the market in 1953!!! In the 2005 Airventure cup race Red Hamilton's 160 HP W-10 averaged 214.68 mph and beat all but one RV. That was a 200 HP RV-8. See the race results at http://www.rguerra.com/avcup/avcup05/2005results.html
BRIAN ALLEY (N320WT)
CARBON FIBER COMPOSITES
101 Caroline Circle
Hurricane, WV 25526
www.carbonfibercomposites.net
304-562-6800 home
304-395-4932 cell
How are you going to win by a nose if you don't stick out your neck?
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Craymondw(at)aol.com |
A German manufacturer of Remark composite yachts and had just completed
a production mold for casting RV4 fuselages out of carbon fiber, assisted me.
When my German friend looked at the various parts supplied by Glasair he
asked; "Vot are you building..a tank? " His brother was the Blackhawk division
GM
for Sykorsky Aircraft and puzzled over why the Glasair parts in were hand lay
ups. Sykorsky buys pre cured composite sheets and stamps out patterns that are
placed into molds that are heated to around 350 degrees and pressed into
shape.
Apparently the designer of Cirrus aircraft is seriously considering
switching over to Sykorsky's method of production and claims that by doing that
Cirrus aircraft will cut production costs by as much as half.
I wanted my German friend to duplicate all my parts out of carbon fiber
and felt I could lower the over all weight by two to three hundred pounds. A RV4
empennage I had recently completed weighed as much as my completed Glasair
rudder! But I had time constraints because I was building my Glasair in the den
and had only one year left before placing the house on the market.
Getting back to using heat for forming parts over lay up. Once you get
expensive hand labor out of doing lay ups and go intio mass production, the
price drastically falls. The molds can be made out of high temperature composite
or ceramic material with chambers that allow heated air to flow through. The
first kit manufacturer that introduces this method will corner the market for
reasonably priced kits.
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Ed Jeffko" <riovista(at)bossig.com> |
What length throttle cable for a TD1, O-320, rear carb mount?
Thanks,
Ed
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Bruce Gray" <Bruce(at)glasair.org> |
Every airplane will have a slightly different length. Get a piece of wire
and route it from your instrument panel to your fuel servo. Measure the
length and call Cablecraft.
Bruce
www.glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-glasair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ed Jeffko
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 6:12 PM
Subject: Glasair-List: Throttle cable
What length throttle cable for a TD1, O-320, rear carb mount?
Thanks,
Ed
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | MPPalmer(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Alternator longevity? |
We have the Motorola 60A alternator S/H offered as an option 20 years ago.
Comes with larger pulley to reduce rotational speed. Still, I have to overhaul
it every 400 to 500 hours.
Have had to replace one case half (fretting), always bearings (upgraded to HD
bearings, but not much improvement), sometimes diodes, and this last time,
the stator failed from vibration. Just about every part has failed at 2600 hrs
except the rotor. Have a blast tube blowing on the alternator for some cooling.
November 25, 2002 - September 09, 2006
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