Kolb-Archive.digest.vol-fw
January 29, 2006 - February 17, 2006
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=7786#7786
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| From: | "John Murr" <jdm(at)wideworld.net> |
| Subject: | Trailer for sale |
OK,
I've unsubscribed and resubscribed using a different e-mail account. There must
be a lag because I haven't gotten any e-mail since except from the Kit Fox list?
Maybe I selected it and not Kolb because they are close together.
In the mean time, anyone wanting pics of my trailer for sale can e-mail me off
list at jdm(at)wideworld.net
Thanks and I hope to be back soon.
John
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| From: | David Lehman <david(at)davidlehman.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Kolb Trailer username and password |
Where's the trailer located?...
DVD
On 1/28/06, jdmurr(at)juno.com wrote:
>
>
> I don't know why Juno does this to me. First it posts my message body
> twice within the same e-mail, then it put a 3D in front of the username and
> password.
> Don't add www in front of the web address. Cut and paste exactly as shown
> below.
>
> For pics try this link. user =3D3D kolb password =3D3D trailer all in
> lower case
>
> You can view, download and delete. Please don't delete.
>
> http://access.sagerswisher.com/
>
>
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| From: | Blumax008(at)aol.com |
In a message dated 1/29/2006 11:19:48 AM Eastern Standard Time,
jhankin(at)planters.net writes:
I was walking pasta EMS truck and I Died, Luckly
they were right there and revived me.
Luck? I call that a miracle Jimmy! I'm ten years behind you at 58. I'd still
like to beat the crap out of the guy who coined the phrase..."the golden
years!"
Golden years my ass! My last golden year was at 42 when my dick could still
get as hard as a steel I-beam!
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| From: | "David Paule" <dpaule(at)frii.com> |
Had a few.
The Hasselblad (film) was too big and heavy. Nice pictures when I was a
passenger, though.
The Olympus OM-1 (film) was great in all respects except that I needed to
carry around lenses and film. Also it isn't waterproof.
Since then I've gotten smaller cameras. I'd kind of like to get one of the
Panasonic digital ones with a stabilized lens - that would probably be best
for shooting from the plane.
The Olympus Stylus (film) was very good, but not durable enough. It survived
a rafting trip in the Grand Canyon but there was residual water damage that
ultimately ruined it. (It was splashproof, they said....)
The Canon S-40 (digital) took good enough pictures but wasn't durable enough
and the menu system was virtually unworkable. If anyone wants its waterproof
housing, never used, let me know.
The Pentax OptioWP (digital) doesn't have a viewfinder, just a screen, and
the range of zoom is a bit limited. So it's hard to use in the plane. But
it's waterproof to about five feet, has an easy menu system, and delivers
good pictures. It so far seems to be quite durable. That is, I haven't
broken it yet.... I have taken it snorkeling successfully. Sure felt funny
dunking it the first time. I do have to admit that it's a lot better on the
sailboat than in the plane.
As I said, probably one of the Panasonic stabilized zoom cameras would be
good for flying.
Dave Paule
Boulder, Colorado
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| From: | ray anderson <rsanoa(at)yahoo.com> |
<<>>>>
Reminds me of a funny incident my wife experienced many years ago while we lived
in Calif. She was for many years editor of a couple of movie and television
magazines and was having lunch with an old time star who was noted for her
prim and proper roles, as well as romantic. The white gloves, trim hat, very,
very proper and one always thought of her as being the type.
They were sitting in the Polo Lounge of the Beverly Hills Hotel eating and talking
about what some of the older female stars of yesteryear were doing and the
roles that now placed them in the category of "golden year" roles. The former
femme fatale still wearing the white gloves and prim pill box hat and smoking
a cigarette, stopped talking, got a far away look and after a moment, took
a long draw on her cigarette and quite loudly said, "F--- the golden years".
So much for her image.
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| From: | "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com> |
John Jung wrote:
>
> Since, IMO, you started this whole thing, you should be the one to stop first.
If you cannot stop, I for one, will ask Matt to remove you from the list. Better
yet, remove yourself.
I did stop, it was over and done with... Until Russ rahashed the whole thing
and publically trashed me in his post that he tried to disguise as an "apology".
Your comment is way out of line and I do not appreciate it either. The only
ones that have broken the rules and spirit of this forum since my apology are
Russ Kinne and those that continue to respond to this thread in a mean way
including yourself. I will never cave in to a small group of people that want
to apply the rules and highest standard to conduct to myself, but are so willing
to ingore the rules themselves.
Matt, or anyone else reading this thread can clearly see who needs a warning to
who needs to be removed from the list. I logged into the list after not posting
for a few days just to see another nasty comment by yourself. I personally
hope Matt does step in, because im tired of reading nasty comments and posts
every day by a small and vocal group that has decided to gang up on me. You
seem to think yourselves above the very rules you are preaching. The conduct
of all involved in this is shameful.
Michael A. Bigelow
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NO FEAR - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!!
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Frapper / location map |
| From: | "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy(at)yahoo.com> |
Hey,
Where's the guy from Iceland....Anybody got his address , Shake'm outa his
tree.....git on the map...
Gotta Fly...
N381PM
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The more people I know....
The more I like MY DOG
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| From: | "Kolbdriver" <kolbdriver(at)mlsharp.com> |
| Subject: | Different occupations of Kolbers? |
Interesting Question. I've enjoyed the posts so far, guys keep them coming!!
I'm a Project Controls Specialist.. Cost Control, Estimating, Schedule
management in The Gas and Oil industry right now. Spent about 15 year
in Petrochemical. Most of that time in the Houston Area...
My Dad instilled the love of flying from an early age. He gave me my
Private Pilots lic. As a graduation present. I saved my pennies after
my son was born and bought Kit no. 1 and between 3 wives and 5
different Jobs and 4 different states I accumulated the rest... LOL I
decided on The Kolb because of STOL and folding wings....
Mike
Kolb Mark III (The Original Kolb)SN 294 Started about the same time
Lar did... We are at about the same spot...
Sold the 582 going with 1.3L Suzuki...
North Central Oklahoma
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of firebug
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 11:21 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Different occupations of Kolbers?
How do you make a living and money to fly. This is a way to know more about
each other on the forum. I'll start it off.
I am a 21 year veteran of the Montgomery Fire Department in Montgomery Al. I
am currently a Fire Investigator and no longer ride the trucks. I also own
an Ornamental Iron business on my days off from the department. I am setting
up my Blacksmith Shop and should have it done in a few months.
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| From: | "Larry Bourne" <biglar(at)gogittum.com> |
| Subject: | Re: New Kolb owner |
Too bad you couldn't fly it home, but at least you've got it. Good on you,
and good luck with your new toy. Lar. Do
not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 12:59 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: New Kolb owner
>
> Hello all. My name is Rick and I have the good fortune to have finally
> gotten the Kolb Mk III that I have wanted for 12 years. You may have seen
> her in Barnstormers, she's the one with the flag paint job done across her
> wing.n a
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| Subject: | Re: Different occupations of Kolbers? |
| From: | "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy(at)yahoo.com> |
I push it and pull it , heat it and beat it...
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The more people I know....
The more I like MY DOG
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| From: | Rick Miles <ultrastarrick(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | new owner Kold Ultra Star |
Hello all
I am Rick Miles and I have just picked up an Ultra star it is in fair shape but
the lift struts are cracked L . You my have seen it on E-bay. I live in California
and am excited about this plane it will be good to get in the air again.
I need to do an inspection on the US however I do not have the plans or manuals
for it. I have ordered the top end rebuild kit for the engine and will inspect
the crank at that time. I have E-Mailed Kolb to get the manuals for the
US but they have not responded as of yet. In the mean time does anybody have
the plans for the lift struts or know where I could get some new ones?
Thank you
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| Subject: | Re: Different occupations of Kolbers? |
I did good to ask this question. [as he pats himself on the back] This has been
nice to found out what makes these kolbs fly[MONEY] and how we make it.
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| Subject: | Re: Different occupations of Kolbers? |
| From: | "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy(at)yahoo.com> |
Your close......
It takes TWO things to fly.....
Airspeed and Money....
Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN FSII / N381PM
firebug wrote:
> I did good to ask this question. [as he pats himself on the back] This has been
nice to found out what makes these kolbs fly[MONEY] and how we make it.
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The more people I know....
The more I like MY DOG
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| From: | "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy(at)yahoo.com> |
Sorry to hear it Big Lar.....
Hey, use 90w ......It won't leak as FAST....
I'm tellin ya, part of the problem is you call your plane a "HE" instead
of "Miss"..........
Gotta Fly...
N381PM ( Miss Lucky Stars )
When I'm flying....I'm thanking my "lucky Stars"
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The more people I know....
The more I like MY DOG
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| Subject: | Check Your Exhaust Springs |
| From: | "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1(at)yahoo.com> |
Hi All,
Did my preflight today and found after 600 hrs. on the plane that the exhaust springs
had practically eaten all the way through the metal hooks on the exhaust
manifold. Some of the springs were eaten almost all the way through also. The
safety wire was in place, but I guess the vibration had caused these two metal
parts to abrade. On two of the springs and hooks they were ready to fail at
any time. Please look yours over. Don't just look at the safety wire as I have,
but also the metal contact point between the springs and hooks. I took mine
apart and welded some extra case hardend rod in place. I had a happy ending.
Please double check yours.
Have a nice day and a good flight.
P.S.
Oh, by the way it's supposed to be 73 to 75 degress out here in Tucson, Az. this
week. I'll be thinking of you snow bound people. :D
Take Care,
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Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
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| From: | "Richard Swiderski" <rswiderski(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Different occupations of Kolbers? |
I sent this earlier & it never posted, here's a 2nd try.
After high school, I repaired the county schools' audio/visual
equipment & managed a gas station/garage. During college I welded up
nuclear trigger devices for Martin Merietta. Got my BS degree in Chemistry.
Built houses for a year then went back & got a Masters & Specialist in
counseling. I did counseling for 2 years, then went into ministry for the
next 17 years, mostly working with youth, but also coordinating the adult
education & family retreats. Then I spent 2 years teaching kids with
learning & emotional problems. For the last 6 years I have been teaching
math to incarcerated teenage boys.
My wife of 30 years is a gift that has greatly exceeded what I
dreamt for as a young buck, and as each year goes by, I am continued to be
surprised by the treasure she is. We have 2 children, a daughter who is a
teacher a precious
granddaughter & another grandchild on the way.
God has blessed my life richly, he has even seen fit to grant my
life long dream -- I have a home in the quiet country on ten acres with a
shop and access to a 4000ft grass strip.
Richard Swiderski
Ocala FL
SlingShot, TurboSuzuki
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| Subject: | Re: Different occupations of Kolbers? |
| From: | "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1(at)yahoo.com> |
Hi All,
I have been a firefighter for over 26 years. I' ve been a paramedic for 24 years
and a Captain for 16 years. I also have owned a company called "The Airline
by J. Sink" and we manufacture "surface supplied air" compressors for diving.
If you don't know what it is there is a video on the web site.
Web site: www.airlinebyjsink.com
Have A SAFE FLIGHT.
I hope to see everyone in MV Valley again this year. :D
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Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
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| From: | Robert Laird <rlaird(at)cavediver.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Check Your Exhaust Springs |
> Oh, by the way it's supposed to be 73 to 75 degress out here in Tucson, Az. this
week. I'll be thinking of you snow bound people. :D
It was 81 degrees here in Houston, today, and I did 2 hours in my Kolb
in a t-shirt. :-)
Global warming is great, except in the summer, which lasts about 9
months here. :-(
-- Robert
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| From: | Richard Pike <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
| Subject: | Re: Check Your Exhaust Springs |
You are right about those two points wearing through. I took a different
direction, I laid a big fillet of braze on the inside of the exhaust
manifold loops, the idea was that the brass would be easier on the
springs, keep them from breaking, and every year I would just add more
braze. It worked pretty well.
Finally discarded the spring system entirely, and use spring loaded
5/16" bolts through welded on brackets to hold everything together.
Perhaps a bit overdone and clunky, but they are so easy to inspect, and
when the bolts do get a bit of wear, they are so easy to replace. Using
common hardware store mild steel bolts (on purpose) drilled for a cotter
pin, seriously overbuilt, here are pictures -
http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/pg2.htm
When I put those pictures on the web page, it was a new setup, after 150
hours, the bolts had minimal wear, there was still 1/4" of bolt
thickness left. Considering that the bolts are in tension, holding about
20 or 25 pounds of pressure from the springs, I am very satisfied.
Fabricating them takes a welder, about $15 worth of parts, (the metal
brackets that the bolts go through are from steel muffler clamp
brackets, I saw the ends off the clamps and use the u-channel ends off
the end of the clamp, the part that the hole goes through) and a couple
hours, but it gives a lot of peace of mind.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Roger Lee wrote:
>
>Hi All,
>
>Did my preflight today and found after 600 hrs. on the plane that the exhaust
springs had practically eaten all the way through the metal hooks on the exhaust
manifold. Some of the springs were eaten almost all the way through also. The
safety wire was in place, but I guess the vibration had caused these two metal
parts to abrade. On two of the springs and hooks they were ready to fail at
any time. Please look yours over. Don't just look at the safety wire as I have,
but also the metal contact point between the springs and hooks. I took mine
apart and welded some extra case hardend rod in place. I had a happy ending.
Please double check yours.
>
>Have a nice day and a good flight.
>
>P.S.
>Oh, by the way it's supposed to be 73 to 75 degress out here in Tucson, Az. this
week. I'll be thinking of you snow bound people. :D
>
>Take Care,
>
>--------
>Roger Lee
>Tucson, Az.
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=7970#7970
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| From: | David Lehman <david(at)davidlehman.net> |
| Subject: | Re: new owner Kold Ultra Star |
Rick...
Where in CA are you?...
David
On 1/29/06, Rick Miles wrote:
>
>
> Hello all
>
> I am Rick Miles and I have just picked up an Ultra star it is in fair
> shape but the lift struts are cracked L . You my have seen it on E-bay. I
> live in California and am excited about this plane it will be good to get in
> the air again. I need to do an inspection on the US however I do not have
> the plans or manuals for it. I have ordered the top end rebuild kit for the
> engine and will inspect the crank at that time. I have E-Mailed Kolb to get
> the manuals for the US but they have not responded as of yet. In the mean
> time does anybody have the plans for the lift struts or know where I could
> get some new ones?
>
> Thank you
>
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| From: | "frank & margie" <frank-margie(at)worldnet.att.net> |
Interesting article in the recent CONTACT magazine (issue 81) on the Hexadyne aero engine. Includes pictures of two different Kolbs fitted with pre-production "test" engines. 2 cyl opposed, 60 HP, 98 lbs including redrive/starter/alternator. Very interesting technical features (4 valves/cyl, electronic fuel injection and engine mgt, directly opposed cyls using 2 rods on one side). Unfortunately not cheap, listed at $8800. The manufacturer's web site is also interesting, www.HexatronEngineering.com.
Frank Clyma
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| Subject: | Re: Hexadyne 2 Cyl |
They have been developing this engine for years. At least 4 or 5 I believe. I would
be nervous about buying one until they had a track record and financial stability
with the company.
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| Subject: | Re: Hexadyne 2 Cyl |
| From: | "John Jung" <jrjungjr(at)yahoo.com> |
frank-margie(at)worldnet. wrote:
> Interesting article in the recent CONTACT magazine (issue 81) on the Hexadyne
aero engine.
I got a chance to meet Cy Williams (President and Chief Engineer) at Copperstate,
last October. He gave a talk about his engine in the CONTACT booth. I had also
seen it at Oshkosh more than once and a friend tried his engine on a Mark
III that was used for towing hang gliders.
I think that Cy is on track, although very slowly, to have a good engine available.
The problem that was yet to be resolved, as of last October, was leaks. Because
the pistons move toward each other at the same time, the crankcase changes
from high pressure to low pressure every revolution of the crank. A one way
valve was added so that the crankcase would operate in a near vaccumn, and testing
was proceeding.
There also was one plane flying a Copperstate with the Hexadyne. It had no muffler
and it was loud. The situation for mufflers, as of then, was the builder designs
his own.
The Hexadyne appears to be a good size and weight for the Firestar, when and if
the development gets far enough along. Of course everone has his own level of
experimenting that they are willing to do. I just am not willling to pay $8800
so that I can do a companies testing. Some people are willing, and without them
a small company like Cy's would probably not be able to come out with a new
engine like this.
What kind of Kolbs were in the pictures in CONTACT?
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John Jung
Firestar II N6163J
Surprise, AZ
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| From: | "pat ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Kolb Frapper / location map |
hoping to get a glimpse of that Mark III on the runway.>>
Hi Eugene,
me too, me too !
Pat
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| Subject: | Question concerning folding Firestar wings |
Can the wings of a Firestar still be folded with a 3 blade prop on it?
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| From: | Rick Miles <ultrastarrick(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: new owner Kold Ultra Star |
I live in Lompoc CA just above Santa Barbera next to Vandenberg AFB
While inspecking my US I have fownd both Aircraft bolts and harware stor bolts
some to long some to short and all of the locking nuts are bad. It superises
me whot some people will fly.
Rick
Ultrastar
Lompoc CA
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| From: | "Chris Mallory" <wcm(at)tampabay.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Question concerning folding Firestar wings |
Yes, just point one blade straight down at the fuselage tube. If you are
going to trailer it on an open trailer, pad and secure the "down" blade to
prevent the wind from turning the prop and cutting the wings.
Chris Mallory
do no archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "firebug" <gcc1964@mon-cre.net>
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 9:29 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Question concerning folding Firestar wings
>
> Can the wings of a Firestar still be folded with a 3 blade prop on it?
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| From: | Blumax008(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: ADFs, 404s etc. |
In a message dated 1/30/2006 8:24:35 AM Eastern Standard Time,
flyingfox(at)copper.net writes:
My first foray into the avionics shop to get my ADF
looked at cost me $3000, for an ADF!?!
How about $6,000 for a cargo door for a Cessna 404 that TWO of my overpaid
pilots let a line boy close for them "because it was raining" and that was 20
years ago. Yes oh Yes, I am done with general aviation. Anybody priced a G.A.
FAA approved spark plug lately? In fact, ultralights are getting pretty
expensive too. I may try to grow wings.
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| Subject: | Different occupations of Kolbers? |
| From: | "Gherkins Tim-rp3420" <rp3420(at)freescale.com> |
I graduated from Arizona State University in 93 with a BS in business
marketing. Worked for Hancock home builder until summer of 94 and
started work with Motorola semiconductor sector. Got my foot in the
door as an manufacturing associate running high tech equipment. Worked
myself into manufacturing management, which I hated mainly due to the
dry drunk I worked under. Scrambled to do anything else and was picked
up by the device engineering group where I still am working as a device
engineering technician now for Motorola's spin-off of their semi sector-
Freescale semiconductor. Married 16 years with five children- 3 oldest
girls and my two little boys, ranging from the oldest of 12 to my
youngest of 3 yrs old.
Have a love for aviation since I was a boy. Parents would give me
flying lessons for birthday/Christmas as a youth. Fly RC planes when I
was a youth as well, and still do. Always wanted to build my own
experimental flying machine. Been working on my Kolb Firestar II and
uncle Craig's Mark III Xtra for little over six years. Took a lot of
skeaming, dreaming, scrimping, scraping, wheelin, dealing to get my
Firestar flying machine done. Just finishing up the paint job on both
and hopefully will start flying here to build some time to go to the
monument valley rally in May.
Tim Gherkins
Firestar II/503dcdi/Powerfin prop/ BSR 750
www.milows.com - check out our website.
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| Subject: | Not a Kolb, But close! |
| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)netzero.com> |
Thought some on this BB wouldn't have seen these. Many no doubt with lots of time
on their hands and no night flying, would wander back here to take a look out
of sheer bordom. These pictures are far from booring.
The good Ralph from Ohio
P.S. I am not nor have I ever been a mail topless dancer! :D :D :D
http://www.richard-seaman.com/Aircraft/AirShows/Edwards2005/B2/in
dex.html
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| Subject: | Re: Different occupations of Kolbers? |
| From: | Todd Fredricks <flyingfox(at)copper.net> |
I cannot wait to see how the enclosure works on the Mark III for the engine.
It looks very sleek indeed.
Todd
On 1/30/06 1:16 PM, "Gherkins Tim-rp3420" wrote:
>
>
> Jimmy, Todd and Kolbers,
>
> The website will be getting updated here soon. Uncle Milow(Craig) keeps
> harrassing me to take some pictures of the Firestar and post them. We
> have been concentrating all our efforts to getting both of these planes
> up and flying. We are half tempted to spend a 4 day weekend at El
> Mirage dry lake bed just an hour north of Los Angelos to test the planes
> out and gain some flying experience. Uncle Craig travels a lot now and
> I see him maybe every two weeks, but we are both close to flying. We
> really want to see what the home-made cowl will do with the Mrk III
> Extra engine and plane performance.
> I try to read this list on a daily basis, so we are still here and
> lurking, looking forward to MV.
>
> Tim Gherkins
> Phx, AZ
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Todd
> Fredricks
> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 9:53 AM
> To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Different occupations of Kolbers?
>
>
>
> Been waiting for a Milows update for a long time. Any changes coming to
> the website?
>
>
> On 1/30/06 10:43 AM, "Gherkins Tim-rp3420" wrote:
>
>>
--
Todd Fredricks, DO
Flying Fox Services
Visit my Blog at www.flyingfoxhangar.blogspot.com
POWERED BY MAC
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Richard Swiderski" <rswiderski(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Hexadyne 2 Cyl |
John, the 2 Kolbs were a FS & MkIII -Richard Swiderski
-----Original Message-----m [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On
Behalf Of John Jung
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 7:38 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Hexadyne 2 Cyl
frank-margie(at)worldnet. wrote:
> Interesting article in the recent CONTACT magazine (issue 81) on the
Hexadyne aero engine.
I got a chance to meet Cy Williams (President and Chief Engineer) at
Copperstate, last October. He gave a talk about his engine in the CONTACT
booth. I had also seen it at Oshkosh more than once and a friend tried his
engine on a Mark III that was used for towing hang gliders.
I think that Cy is on track, although very slowly, to have a good engine
available. The problem that was yet to be resolved, as of last October, was
leaks. Because the pistons move toward each other at the same time, the
crankcase changes from high pressure to low pressure every revolution of the
crank. A one way valve was added so that the crankcase would operate in a
near vaccumn, and testing was proceeding.
There also was one plane flying a Copperstate with the Hexadyne. It had no
muffler and it was loud. The situation for mufflers, as of then, was the
builder designs his own.
The Hexadyne appears to be a good size and weight for the Firestar, when and
if the development gets far enough along. Of course everone has his own
level of experimenting that they are willing to do. I just am not willling
to pay $8800 so that I can do a companies testing. Some people are willing,
and without them a small company like Cy's would probably not be able to
come out with a new engine like this.
What kind of Kolbs were in the pictures in CONTACT?
--------
John Jung
Firestar II N6163J
Surprise, AZ
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=8083#8083
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| From: | "ron wehba" <rwehba(at)pegasusbb.com> |
| Subject: | my old ultrastar |
looking for my old ultrastar, will put up its picture on matts photoshare.
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Question concerning folding Firestar wings |
| From: | "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy(at)yahoo.com> |
Do You EVER look in the archives for ANYTHING....
Or you just like to be SPOON FED......
Gotta Fart... [Rolling Eyes]
--------
The more people I know....
The more I like MY DOG
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=8262#8262
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc00214_140.jpg
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| Subject: | Re: Question concerning folding Firestar wings |
Yes I like to be spoon fed, AAAAAAHHHHHHH.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=8297#8297
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ready for inspection |
| From: | "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot2(at)comcast.net> |
Hey Robert,
Nice to here you are close to being done.
You just might be the first to fly a MarkIII Xtra at any of our Kolb get-togethers.
--------
John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolbra, 912ULS
http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot1
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=8317#8317
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| From: | "Mark" <mshimei(at)netzero.net> |
I use a Olympus UZ2100...stablized lens,2.1meg pix.,,,,,10x optical.....great camera,not
heavy.
--------
Mark Shimei
Twinstar, 503
Phantom, Kawasaki 440
Weight shift Quick, Chrysler
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=8324#8324
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Steven Green" <Kolbdriver(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Radio Noise.....Solved |
Those that I flew with to and from OSH last year know that my radio transmissions
during flight were almost if not completely impossible to understand. I could
back off the throttle for a slight improvement and transmissions from the
ground with engine idling were ok. I use a Yaesu VXA-100 handheld radio with
a headset adapter. Earlier in the summer my remote PTT switch failed and I just
started using the PTT on the radio since it is mounted in front of the control
stick. I had called Yaesu (now Vertex) earlier to ask if the built-in microphone
was activated when using a remote PTT switch was used and their answer
was yes, so there should have been no difference in using the remote or the built-in
PTT. I am just now finding out that is not correct. When using a remote
PTT the built-in mic is NOT activated. While troubleshooting the system tonight
I discovered that you could hear a gnat landing on the radio case while
using the radio's PTT switch which activates the built-in mic. My radio is somewhat
hard mounted to the airframe so I was getting a lot of noise transmitted
through the radio case to the built-in mic.
I have a connector ordered to repair my remote PTT switch.
Steven Green
MK III 912S
Etowah, TN
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Richard Girard <jindoguy(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Thoughts on cameras |
Dave, I've mounted cameras on aircraft as varied as a Kasperwing ultralight
and a super LongEZ and my one suggestion would be to get a camera with a
remote. Digital still cameras typically don't have them, but digital video
usually do. It saves fussing with the camera and possibly moving it off the
shot you have it set for. The other suggestion is to make sure the camera
has a provision for a remote microphone. You can get fittings and cords at
Rat Shack to hook the camera into your intercom. I can send you pictures of
the LongEZ mount if you'd like. I built it one evening in the hangar while
Wayne (the LongEZ's owner) was clearing things off the to-do list. Nothing
fancy, just a piece of angle, three turnbuckles, three Adel clamps, and some
nuts and bolts. The turnbuckles gave the mount very good adjustability to
get the shot we wanted and were sturdy enough to stand up to the vibration
put out by the IO-360.
--
Rick Girard
"Pining for a home on the Range"
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | [ Ron Wehba ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! |
| From: | Email List Photo Shares <pictures(at)matronics.com> |
A new Email List Photo Share is available:
Poster: Ron Wehba
Lists: Kolb-List,Ultralight-List
Subject: My Old Ultrastar - Looking for it...
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/rwehba@pegasusbb.com.01.30.2006/index.html
o Main Photo Share Index
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
o Submitting a Photo Share
If you wish to submit a Photo Share of your own, please include the
following information along with your email message and files:
1) Email List or Lists that they are related to:
2) Your Full Name:
3) Your Email Address:
4) One line Subject description:
5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic:
6) One-line Description of each photo or file:
Email the information above and your files and photos to:
pictures(at)matronics.com
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | [ Robert Mason ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! |
| From: | Email List Photo Shares <pictures(at)matronics.com> |
A new Email List Photo Share is available:
Poster: Robert Mason
Lists: Kolb-List,Ultralight-List
Subject: My Plane
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/masonclan@sbcglobal.net.01.30.2006/index.html
o Main Photo Share Index
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o Submitting a Photo Share
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following information along with your email message and files:
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2) Your Full Name:
3) Your Email Address:
4) One line Subject description:
5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic:
6) One-line Description of each photo or file:
Email the information above and your files and photos to:
pictures(at)matronics.com
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Question concerning folding Firestar wings |
On Jan 30, 2006, at 5:49 PM, planecrazzzy wrote:
>
>
> Do You EVER look in the archives for ANYTHING....
>
> Or you just like to be SPOON FED......
>
> Gotta Fart... [Rolling Eyes]
>
> --------
> The more people I know....
> The more I like MY DOG
The more people I know
The more I like MY GOD ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, GOD forgives.
:-)
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "djo" <djo(at)unet.com.mk> |
| Subject: | Entusiastic group |
Hello All;
We are group of students working on a student project of design and building of
light airplane.
All your donation of plans and user manuals for airplanes and motorized sailplanes
will be welcomed and mentioned.
Please send them in PDF or DWG format.
All best;
Georgi Petkovski
ak group
please use this e-mail
brkonja(at)gmail.com
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jim Baker" <jlbaker(at)telepath.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Thoughts on cameras |
> camera with a remote. Digital still cameras typically don't have
them,
> but digital video usually do.
The Canon Powershot cameras (some other Canons as well) and
some Olympus cameras (I have the 2100UZ Olympus as well) can
be controlled through the USB port. Almost everything can be
controlled. The beauty is that you can build a mount for the camera
and use a laptop to control it, including seeing the framed shots in a
window that appears to be through the viewfinder or the LCD. You
can also set up sequenced, timed shots that make it easy to stich
the frames together. I'm watching E Bay right now to find a broken
LCD unit that still takes good images.
http://www.steves-digicams.com/digsoftware_cameractrl.html
Holding a camera with one hand and flying with the other sucks. And
you never quite know if the nadir of the shot is going to be close to
vertical..
Jim Baker
580.788.2779
'71 SV, 492TC
Elmore City, OK
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Rick Miles <ultrastarrick(at)yahoo.com> |
Does someone have a supplier for the 280j10 poly v belt the US I have needs two
new ones but I am have a problem finding them.
Thank YOU
Rick
ultrastar
---------------------------------
Bring words and photos together (easily) with
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Michael Sharp <kolbdriver(at)mlsharp.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Entusiastic group |
George,
What school are you representing?
Where are you located?
What program within the school is this project assigned to?
A little info will go along way to helping folks feel comfortable with your request..
Mike
djo wrote:
Hello All;
We are group of students working on a student project of design and building of
light airplane.
All your donation of plans and user manuals for airplanes and motorized sailplanes
will be welcomed and mentioned.
Please send them in PDF or DWG format.
All best;
Georgi Petkovski
ak group
please use this e-mail
brkonja(at)gmail.com
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: cost of flying |
| From: | "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com> |
Its liability and over regulation. The FAA makes parts manufacturers jump through
so many hoops to produce anything that it also adds a huge amount to the cost
of an airplane.
In the 1950's , a new 172 cost about the same as a new Cadillac. Today the Cadillac
is 1000 times better than the 50's model, with many more parts that are
more complicated to manufacture. The 172 is basically the same plane we had
50 years ago, and now costs 4 times as much as you new caddy. Automakers also
pay liability, although it is higher with aviation... Excessive regulation
by the government has also made the prices of aircraft go up a huge amount..
--------
NO FEAR - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!!
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=8491#8491
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| From: | "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart(at)onlyinternet.net> |
>
>Does someone have a supplier for the 280j10 poly v belt the US I have needs two
new ones but I am have a problem finding them.
>
> Thank YOU
>
> Rick
> ultrastar
>
Rick,
Try:
http://www.gates.com
They make the belt you are interested in. Put your zip code in the box and you
can locate a distributor near by.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Jim Clayton <jspc78(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Entusiastic group |
Greetings all,
This was posted to the homebuilt list this morning,
and I think Sid got it right, so I am cross posting it
here.
This smells like a scam to me.
-Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-homebuilt-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-homebuilt-list-server(at)matronics.com] On
Behalf Of Sid Hausding
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 7:20 AM
Subject: Homebuilt-List: group
--> Homebuilt-List message posted by: Sid Hausding
I'm not saying this gentleman is one, but we have seen
this request on other aviation forums as a
scam............someone is getting free aircraft plans
and manuals, copying them and then turning around and
selling unauthorized copies without the owner's or
designers persmission.
I would wonder why a class would want several
designs and not just one that they could work
from............sounds too much like the "getting
something for nothing" idea and the ebay scam all over
again.
I belong to four aviation forums and have seen this
request twice already and heard the same story from
several other friends on other type specific
lists......
Hausding, Sid
Alpena, Michigan
------------------------
djo wrote:
--> Homebuilt-List message posted by: "djo"
Hello All;
We are group of students working on a student project
of design and building of light airplane.
All your donation of plans and user manuals for
airplanes and motorized sailplanes will be welcomed
and mentioned.
Please send them in PDF or DWG format.
All best;
Georgi Petkovski
ak group
please use this e-mail
brkonja(at)gmail.com
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL <Dennis.Kirby(at)kirtland.af.mil> |
| Subject: | ELSA vs. E/AB Privileges |
"David Key" wrote: << Negative is you can not fly over densely popluated
areas, the yellow part on a sectional. That could become an issue where I
live. >>
David, and Fellow Kolbers -
This, to me, is the primary advantage of certifying our Kolbs as
"Experimental/Amateur-Built" (51 percent kit) aircraft, versus "Experimental
Light Sport Aircraft."
Ex/Am-Built aircraft are allowed by the FARs to fly over densely populated
areas, "provided that sufficient altitude is maintained that a safe,
emergency landing can be made in the event engine power is lost." I fly
1000 feet AGL over cities (the yellow areas on a sectional).
The new LSA le does not allow Experimental LSA to fly over "densely
populated areas."
Keep this in mind when applying for your airworthiness certificate from the
FAA.
Dennis Kirby
Mark-III, 912 in
Cedar Crest, NM
http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40">
David Key wrote:
Negative is you can not fly over densely popluated areas, the yellow
part on a sectional. That could become an issue where I live.
David, and Fellow Kolbers
This, to me, is the primary
advantage of certifying our Kolbs as Experimental/Amateur-Built (51
percent kit) aircraft, versus Experimental Light Sport Aircraft.
Ex/Am-Built aircraft are
allowed by the FARs to fly over densely populated
areas, provided that sufficient altitude is maintained that a safe,
emergency landing can be made in the event engine power is lost. I
fly 1000 feet AGL over cities (the yellow areas on a sectional).
The new LSA le does not
allow Experimental LSA to fly over densely populated areas.
Keep this in mind when
applying for your airworthiness certificate from the FAA.
Dennis Kirby
Mark-III, 912 in
Cedar Crest, NM
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "flykolb" <flykolb(at)wowway.com> |
| Subject: | Re: ELSA vs. E/AB Privileges |
Does the clasification affect the medical required- driver's license vs FAA
medical?
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL" <Dennis.Kirby(at)kirtland.af.mil>
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 5:05 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: ELSA vs. E/AB Privileges
>
> "David Key" wrote: << Negative is you can not fly over densely popluated
> areas, the yellow part on a sectional. That could become an issue where I
> live. >>
>
>
> David, and Fellow Kolbers -
>
>
> This, to me, is the primary advantage of certifying our Kolbs as
> "Experimental/Amateur-Built" (51 percent kit) aircraft, versus
"Experimental
> Light Sport Aircraft."
>
>
> Ex/Am-Built aircraft are allowed by the FARs to fly over densely populated
> areas, "provided that sufficient altitude is maintained that a safe,
> emergency landing can be made in the event engine power is lost." I fly
> 1000 feet AGL over cities (the yellow areas on a sectional).
>
>
> The new LSA le does not allow Experimental LSA to fly over "densely
> populated areas."
>
>
> Keep this in mind when applying for your airworthiness certificate from
the
> FAA.
>
>
> Dennis Kirby
>
> Mark-III, 912 in
>
> Cedar Crest, NM
>
>
> http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40">
>
>
> name=3D"place"/>
>
>
>
>
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>David Key wrote:
> Negative is you can not fly over densely popluated areas, the yellow
> part on a sectional. That could become an issue where I live.
>
>
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>
>
>
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>David, and Fellow
Kolbers
>
>
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>
>
>
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>This, to me, is the
primary
> advantage of certifying our Kolbs as Experimental/Amateur-Built (51
> percent kit) aircraft, versus Experimental Light Sport Aircraft.
>
>
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>
>
>
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Ex/Am-Built aircraft
are
> allowed by the FARs to fly over densely
populated
> areas, provided that sufficient altitude is maintained that a safe,
> emergency landing can be made in the event engine power is lost. I
> fly 1000 feet AGL over cities (the yellow areas on a sectional).
>
>
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>
>
>
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>The new LSA le does
not
> allow Experimental LSA to fly over densely populated areas.
>
>
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>
>
>
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Keep this in mind
when
> applying for your airworthiness certificate from the FAA.
>
>
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>
>
>
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Dennis Kirby
>
>
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Mark-III, 912 in
>
>
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Cedar Crest, NM
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Robert Laird <rlaird(at)cavediver.com> |
| Subject: | Re: ELSA vs. E/AB Privileges |
If the Experimental-Amateur Built (E-AB) aircraft has the flying
characteristics that put it into the Experimental-Light Sport Aircraft
(E-LSA) category, then a Sport Pilot can fly it. Thus, you can
possess a SP license, with no medical required, and still fly an E-AB
aircraft (assuming it meets the E-LSA requirements).
-- Robert
On 2/1/06, flykolb wrote:
>
> Does the clasification affect the medical required- driver's license vs FAA
> medical?
>
> Jim
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL" <Dennis.Kirby(at)kirtland.af.mil>
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 5:05 PM
> Subject: Kolb-List: ELSA vs. E/AB Privileges
>
>
>
> >
> > "David Key" wrote: << Negative is you can not fly over densely popluated
> > areas, the yellow part on a sectional. That could become an issue where I
> > live. >>
> >
> >
> >
> > David, and Fellow Kolbers -
> >
> >
> >
> > This, to me, is the primary advantage of certifying our Kolbs as
> > "Experimental/Amateur-Built" (51 percent kit) aircraft, versus
> "Experimental
> > Light Sport Aircraft."
> >
> >
> >
> > Ex/Am-Built aircraft are allowed by the FARs to fly over densely populated
> > areas, "provided that sufficient altitude is maintained that a safe,
> > emergency landing can be made in the event engine power is lost." I fly
> > 1000 feet AGL over cities (the yellow areas on a sectional).
> >
> >
> >
> > The new LSA le does not allow Experimental LSA to fly over "densely
> > populated areas."
> >
> >
> >
> > Keep this in mind when applying for your airworthiness certificate from
> the
> > FAA.
> >
> >
> >
> > Dennis Kirby
> >
> > Mark-III, 912 in
> >
> > Cedar Crest, NM
> >
> >
> > xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word"
> xmlns:st1=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"
> xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40">
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"
> > name=3D"place"/>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>David Key wrote:
> > Negative is you can not fly over densely popluated areas, the yellow
> > part on a sectional. That could become an issue where I live.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>David, and Fellow
> Kolbers
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>This, to me, is the
> primary
> > advantage of certifying our Kolbs as Experimental/Amateur-Built (51
> > percent kit) aircraft, versus Experimental Light Sport Aircraft.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Ex/Am-Built aircraft
> are
> > allowed by the FARs to fly over densely
> populated
> > areas, provided that sufficient altitude is maintained that a safe,
> > emergency landing can be made in the event engine power is lost. I
> > fly 1000 feet AGL over cities (the yellow areas on a sectional).
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>The new LSA le does
> not
> > allow Experimental LSA to fly over densely populated areas.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Keep this in mind
> when
> > applying for your airworthiness certificate from the FAA.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Dennis Kirby
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Mark-III, 912 in
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Cedar Crest, NM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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| From: | "frank & margie" <frank-margie(at)worldnet.att.net> |
"I got a chance to meet Cy Williams (President and Chief Engineer) at Copperstate,
last October. He gave a talk about his engine in the CONTACT booth. I had also
seen it at Oshkosh more than once and a friend tried his engine on a Mark
III that was used for towing hang gliders."
---------------------------
John,
The crankcase pressure problem supposedly has been solved with a dry sump oil
system. "The scavenge pump does double duty in that it also functions as the
crankcase ventilation, actually providing a slight negative internal crankcase
atmosphere." (Sure sounds good----)
What did your friend think of the one on his Mark III?
I doubt anyone would pay $8800 to be an official engine tester, I wonder what
they actually did pay. Like you said, it has to be hard for a small company
to develop a viable unit. Which is probably why most of the engines "in development"
never make it. I hope this one does.
Frank Clyma
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| Subject: | Re: ELSA vs. E/AB Privileges |
| From: | "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1(at)yahoo.com> |
Hi All,
I had a FAA rep., in Tucson, tell me last month that they are in the process of
changing the no flight over densley populated areas this year. He said we should
all be allowed some time this year. He read the new rule to me at the time.
I hope it comes through.
I was going to have my Kolb Mark III set up as experimental-amateur built, but
it took alot more paperwork and a paper trail. (I did not build mine)
I left mine Light sport and I'm just as happy.
--------
Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=8574#8574
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| From: | "Don Martin" <kolbdriver(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | center gap seal for sale and other parts KXP!!! |
>> Hello, john and group...since i sold my KXP last year i won't be
>>flying the ice this year (darn that hurts) anyway i have quite a few new
>>parts that i never installed on the KXP.
>
> 1) brand new never installed wing gap seal. asking $45.00
>
> Tell me more about the gap seal. Does this also fit the Firestar II?
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: New Kolb owner |
Congradulations buddy, let us know how it flies. I don't live too far from where
that plane was located. Didn't have the need for a 2 place. It sure is a pretty
plane.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=8578#8578
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| From: | Robert Laird <rlaird(at)cavediver.com> |
| Subject: | Re: ELSA vs. E/AB Privileges |
> I had a FAA rep., in Tucson, tell me last month that they are in the process
of changing the no flight over densley populated areas this year. He said we
should all be allowed some time this year. He read the new rule to me at the time.
I sure hope you're right, but I'll believe it when I see it. I mean,
they won't even let LSA amphibs raise/lower their gear in flight.
What horse-patootie!
-- R
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Call Roger Zerkle at ZDE in FlatRock Illinois for the belt and all your Cuyuna
needs.
his email is
zde(at)frtci.net
--------
Don G
FireFly#098
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=8584#8584
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| From: | "Gary r. voigt" <johndeereantique(at)qwest.net> |
| Subject: | Re: center gap seal for sale and other parts KXP!!! |
Yes, it will fit all 3 kolb firestars....original, KXP & the FS11...
Here are some pics. someone may take it but there are still thinking about
it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Martin" <kolbdriver(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 9:00 PM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: center gap seal for sale and other parts KXP!!!
>
> >> Hello, john and group...since i sold my KXP last year i won't be
> >>flying the ice this year (darn that hurts) anyway i have quite a few new
> >>parts that i never installed on the KXP.
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| From: | "Don Martin" <kolbdriver(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: center gap seal for sale and other parts KXP!!! |
Gary..did I miss something? Where are the pics?
>From: "Gary r. voigt" <johndeereantique(at)qwest.net>
>Reply-To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
>To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: center gap seal for sale and other parts KXP!!!
>Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 22:01:55 -0600
>
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> Yes, it will fit all 3 kolb firestars....original, KXP & the FS11...
>Here are some pics. someone may take it but there are still thinking about
>it.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Don Martin" <kolbdriver(at)hotmail.com>
>To:
>Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 9:00 PM
>Subject: RE: Kolb-List: center gap seal for sale and other parts KXP!!!
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| From: | "Domenic Perez" <perezmdomenic(at)plateautel.net> |
| Subject: | Bryan Melborn's builder's fee |
Mike Schnabel,
If Bryan Melborn built your plane, you can rest assured it is one of the best
built out there. I think it was here on the list a year or two ago that I heard
someone speculate that Bryan had probably built more Kolbs than ANYONE. I
believe he IS Kolb technical support at TNK, or at least he was a couple of years
ago when I had some questions.
So if I may be so bold, what does it cost to have Bryan Melborn build a Firestar
II? Were there any "extras" added that boosted the cost? What was the time
frame that your plane was built?
M. Domenic Perez
Vaughn, NM
FS II
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "pat ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
Hi all,
some movement at last.
Permission to test fly my Xtra, registered G-PLAD, came through this morning. There
is some confusion over the MAUW but Kiwimick, who will complete the test
flying is sorting this out.
The permission to test which Mick will do as designated pilot, is good until End
of Feb. A restricted flying area for a specified time then follows and I hope
to be able to complete that myself at my home field. Getting it home from Micks
field, about 150 miles away, will entail a one off positioning flight for
which permision should be forthcoming easily.
Micks field is completely fogged in today. Vis at my field is under VFR limits.
Hey Ho !
Pat
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Michael Sharp <kolbdriver(at)mlsharp.com> |
Way cool Pat...
Keep us posted.
pat ladd wrote:
Hi all,
some movement at last.
Permission to test fly my Xtra, registered G-PLAD, came through this morning. There
is some confusion over the MAUW but Kiwimick, who will complete the test
flying is sorting this out.
The permission to test which Mick will do as designated pilot, is good until End
of Feb. A restricted flying area for a specified time then follows and I hope
to be able to complete that myself at my home field. Getting it home from Micks
field, about 150 miles away, will entail a one off positioning flight for
which permision should be forthcoming easily.
Micks field is completely fogged in today. Vis at my field is under VFR limits.
Hey Ho !
Pat
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Bryan Melborn's builder's fee |
In a message dated 2/1/2006 1:39:57 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
perezmdomenic(at)plateautel.net writes:
So if I may be so bold, what does it cost to have Bryan Melborn build a
Firestar II?
Dom,
Bryan does not usually monitor the list so maybe I can help. Since the FSII
is not part 103, technically It has to be 51% built by the owner. However,
both Quickbuild and Builder Assist options are available. You can reach Bryan
at Custom Air 606 682 0645. You are correct about Bryan's work. It is always
Show Quality. He can also be reached through TNK 606 862 9692
Steve Boetto
FF #007/Floats
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Diego Ospina <dospi(at)epm.net.co> |
Hello All;
Is anyone in this list flying or has flown a Mark III with the Full Lotus
monohull 2000 float?
Diego Ospina
Flying Mark III in Colombia
dospi(at)epm.net.co
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Larry Bourne" <biglar(at)gogittum.com> |
Man, I'll bet you're chomping at the bit, eh ?? Good Luck, Pat, I hope that
notorious British weather co-operates for you. Lar.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 4:11 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Xtra
>
> Hi all,
> some movement at last.
>
> Permission to test fly my Xtra, registered G-PLAD, came through this
> morning. There is some confusion over the MAUW but Kiwimick, who will
> complete the test flying is sorting this out.
>
> The permission to test which Mick will do as designated pilot, is good
> until End of Feb. A restricted flying area for a specified time then
> follows and I hope to be able to complete that myself at my home field.
> Getting it home from Micks field, about 150 miles away, will entail a one
> off positioning flight for which permision should be forthcoming easily.
>
> Micks field is completely fogged in today. Vis at my field is under VFR
> limits. Hey Ho !
>
> Pat
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Blumax008(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Kolb on Lotus |
In a message dated 2/1/2006 8:41:00 AM Eastern Standard Time,
dospi(at)epm.net.co writes:
Is anyone in this list flying or has flown a Mark III with the Full Lotus
monohull 2000 float?
Diego...Que Paso Hombre?
I can get you the email address for the owner of Full Lotus if you like.
Also, can get you the email of a person that has experience installing the Full
Lotus on Kolbs but do not know if he has installed them on a Mark III.
Probably doesn't make much difference. He can give you a lot of advice & would
probably even fly to Colombia to install them for you...for a price of course.
Hasta Luego!
Bill Catalina
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Blumax008(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: How tight the tail wires... |
Hey Guys,
I do aerial photography here in Florida using a Firestar. Bought it
recently. Love that windshield! Had it at 12,000 feet yesterday but MAN was it
ever
freezing my --- off.
When you're up that high looking at the world, sometimes you get to thinking
bad thoughts. Not nasty thoughts, though sometimes I think that too...but
thoughts like that itty bitty AN3 bolt & nut holding my horizontal feathers on.
Does anyone know how tight those wires should be? When I tip the wires with
my fingers I get a fine hmmmm to it & it seems awful drum tight. Has anyone
ever replaced the bolt with an AN4?
I do some crazy crap but you can tell I'm a chicken sh-t at heart! It's just
that I fly Trikes too and the cables on Trikes are like the ones on the
suspension bridge across Tampa Bay. Not used to this itty bitty stuff.
Bill Catalina
Ochlockonee Bay, FL
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "pat ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
| Subject: | Fw: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... |
Hi All,
I hope this doesn`t break the rules of the list but I thought some of you hot shot
pilots might like a try at this.
My best so far is 11.025 secs
Good luck
Pat
----- Original Message -----
From:, February 01, 2006 2:09 PM
Subject: FW: COOL GAME TO PLAY....
You are the pilot, how long can you go with this? I'm good for about 8 secs.
Jerry
Very difficult at first. However, all you coordinated folks should master this
game in short order! The object of the game is to move the red block around without
getting hit by the blue blocks or touching the black walls. If you can go
longer than 18 seconds you are phenomenal It's been said that the US Air Force
uses this for fighter pilots. They are expected to go for at least 2 minutes.
Give it a try!!
http://tinyurl.com/56t9u
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| From: | Lanny Fetterman <donaho(at)csrlink.net> |
| Subject: | How tight the tail wires? 1.80 SARE_ADLTSUB2 Contains |
possible adult words
Bill and all, I asked Dennis this question once and his answer was, as
tight as I could get them using only my fingers on the wing nut. Lanny
Fetterman N598LF Firestar II
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| Subject: | Re: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... |
| From: | "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com> |
pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I hope this doesn`t break the rules of the list but I thought some of you hot
shot pilots might like a try at this.
>
>
I would like to try it, but I dont see a game or a link listed in your post :(
Can you repost it ???
Michael A. Bigelow
--------
NO FEAR - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!!
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=8744#8744
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| From: | "Gary r. voigt" <johndeereantique(at)qwest.net> |
| Subject: | Re: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... |
ok lets make this a contest, lets be on the honor system now, my personal
best is 21.703...come on lar...you and i have alot of time on our hands..
thanks,
Gary r. voigt
----- Original Message -----
From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 3:43 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: COOL GAME TO PLAY....
>
>
> pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I hope this doesn`t break the rules of the list but I thought some of
you hot shot pilots might like a try at this.
> >
> >
>
>
> I would like to try it, but I dont see a game or a link listed in your
post :( Can you repost it ???
>
> Michael A. Bigelow
>
> --------
> NO FEAR - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have
!!!
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=8744#8744
>
>
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| From: | "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier(at)cableone.net> |
| Subject: | Wing Attach Fittings |
Guys,
Have any of you had problems with the Wing Attach Fitting (I think that's what
it's called) breaking rivets on the Boom Tube? If so, what's your fix?
I trailer my plane and fold it every time I fly. I'm sure I have over 3,000
miles trailering and a lot of that is over dirt roads with lots of washboards.
The Boom Tube is on a cradle and I have tried various things to get the weight
of the wings off of the Attach Fittings - the best is straps from the wings
to a brace across the ceiling of the trailer. But shortly after I got the
plane, I noticed the rivets were broken so I replaced them with steel rivets.
A while later, those broke so we drilled it out and put in 3/16 steel rivets.
Now I notice they are either broken or missing. One is gone so I assume it
broke, and the other is loose so I assume it is wearing a hole in the Boom Tube.
Any fixes for this short of disconnecting the wings after I get it in the trailer?
That would be a pain.
AzDave
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| From: | "Larry Bourne" <biglar(at)gogittum.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Wing Attach Fittings |
I'm amazed, Dave. Yours looks like a really good setup. Only thing I can
think of is nuts, bolts and washers, but can't figure how you'd do it
without cutting the fabric. Maybe a Tee on the tail boom support to support
the leading edges, too ?? Lar. Do
not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier(at)cableone.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 4:56 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Wing Attach Fittings
>
>
> Guys,
>
> Have any of you had problems with the Wing Attach Fitting (I think
> that's what it's called) breaking rivets on the Boom Tube? If so, what's
> your fix?
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "JW Hauck" <jimh474(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Different occupations of Kolbers? |
Y'all;
Bro John is out of pocket for a few days, He should be back tomorrow or
Friday
Bro Jim
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| Subject: | Re: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... |
| From: | "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com> |
Awesome game !! My first attempt was .426 seconds, but I was able to work up
to 20 seconds in a couple minutes :) Now im going to send this to all the guys
I fly with and see how they do [Wink]
Michael A. Bigelow
--------
NO FEAR - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!!
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=8825#8825
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| Subject: | Re: How Long Is Your (Pitot) Tube?... |
| From: | "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com> |
I hear the average pitot tube is 6.3 inches, but that was a survey of all American
makes and models, probably not applicable to the Kolb [Laughing]
--------
NO FEAR - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!!
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=8828#8828
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| Subject: | Re: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... |
3rd try got 55.8 secs.......
--------
Don G
FireFly#098
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=8836#8836
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| From: | robert bean <slyck(at)frontiernet.net> |
Don't know if you are speaking of the length of the probe
or the tubing going to the cabin instrument. The probe
can be any length. The tubing also. -within reason, not talking miles
here.
Pressure drop of a fluid in a pipe (air being also a fluid)
is a function of cross section times distance traveled.
The diff in a pitot static system is that there is no flow,
hence no pressure drop.
-BB
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| From: | DAquaNut(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Main Spar Clevis Pin Safety Pin |
Group,
The safety pin on the main spar clevis pin on my Firefly rotates to where
the point on the safety pin ends up pointing up, even though I install it
pointing down. Anyone else have this to occur? I fold and unfold to fly. I
would feel safer if the pin would stay pointing down . If it came open pointing
up it would have gravity pulling it down. ( and out) . Has there ever been a
case where the safety pins came out of that clevis? Is my concern legit?
Ed Diebel (447 Firefly )
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | DAquaNut(at)aol.com |
Group,
Has anyone put a Rotax 277 on a Firefly, Or know of any one who has? I'm
curious as to what the performance and fuel economy was like.
Ed Diebel (447Firefly)
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Beauford" <beauford(at)tampabay.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Main Spar Clevis Pin Safety Pin |
Brother Diebel...
I think a lot of the clevis pins move around some in flight... either to
rotate some,
or slide back and forth some... or both. Mine do... especially on the strut
fittings. The archives should
have a fair amount of material on this subject from past discussion strings
I can remember.
>From what I have read, some pin movement is a normal thing, although I have
heard of vibration eventually
enlarging the holes to the point that they required re-drilling and a larger
clevis pin being fitted on high-time planes.
I never heard of an installed safety pin falling out in flight, but I have
heard of clevis pins falling out when someone
neglected to install the safety pin. (As I recall, that incident was not on
a Kolb).
Assuming you used the right size bit to drill yours, there should not yet be
enough slop
to be a problem in your new ship. The clevis pins should be tight enough not
to allow the
attachment fittings to "rattle" yet loose enough to go in easily. If you
are concerned about
yours being too loose, why not call Travis at TNK, describe the way your
clevis pins are moving,
and see what he thinks...?
Personally, I use an AN washer on the clevis under my safety pins just to
make certain
there is never any direct contact between the safety pin and the fittings
should the clevis slide some...
I've heard that quite a few folks do this... I also make a point of looking
closely at the clevis
and safety pins for signs of wear, cracks or unusual grooves every time I
install 'em.
Worth what ye paid fer it... Good luck...
Beauford
FF#076
----- Original Message -----
From: <DAquaNut(at)aol.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 1:19 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Main Spar Clevis Pin Safety Pin
>
> Group,
>
> The safety pin on the main spar clevis pin on my Firefly rotates to
where
> the point on the safety pin ends up pointing up, even though I install it
> pointing down. Anyone else have this to occur? I fold and unfold to fly.
I
> would feel safer if the pin would stay pointing down . If it came open
pointing
> up it would have gravity pulling it down. ( and out) . Has there ever
been a
> case where the safety pins came out of that clevis? Is my concern legit?
>
>
> Ed Diebel (447 Firefly )
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Ralph" <ul15rhb(at)juno.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Main Spar Clevis Pin Safety Pin |
Ed and others,
The main clevis pins on the cage moves both ways in flight no matter which way
it's installed. I fold my Firestar on every flight and put it in with the safety
ring facing front so I can see it. I put an AN nut that fits over the pin to
take up the slack.
On the subject of the pins wearing or the fittings widening over time, I have not
noticed this on my plane. I inspect this often, and mine are very tight after
19 years of flying.
Ralph
Original Firestar
19 years flying it
-- DAquaNut(at)aol.com wrote:
Group,
The safety pin on the main spar clevis pin on my Firefly rotates to where
the point on the safety pin ends up pointing up, even though I install it
pointing down. Anyone else have this to occur? I fold and unfold to fly. I
would feel safer if the pin would stay pointing down . If it came open pointing
up it would have gravity pulling it down. ( and out) . Has there ever been a
case where the safety pins came out of that clevis? Is my concern legit?
Ed Diebel (447 Firefly )
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Main Spar Clevis Pin Safety Pin |
| From: | "John Jung" <jrjungjr(at)yahoo.com> |
DAquaNut(at)aol.com wrote:
> Has there ever been a
> case where the safety pins came out of that clevis? Is my concern legit?
Ed and Group,
I have been on the list for 8 years and flying Kolbs for 9.
The only case of that pin comming out that I can recall, was when the pilot left
the pin in his pocket. He got distracted by people asking him questions when
he set the plane up. Be assured that the rotation is normal.
My concern has always been that the pins are installed, not the position. My most
minimal preflight always involves looking at the safety pins.
--------
John Jung
Firestar II N6163J
Surprise, AZ
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=8932#8932
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| Subject: | Re: Main Spar Clevis Pin Safety Pin |
In a message dated 2/2/2006 1:23:00 AM Eastern Standard Time,
DAquaNut(at)aol.com writes:
>
> Group,
>
> The safety pin on the main spar clevis pin on my Firefly rotates to where
> the point on the safety pin ends up pointing up, even though I install it
> pointing down. Anyone else have this to occur? I fold and unfold to fly. I
>
> would feel safer if the pin would stay pointing down . If it came open
> pointing
> up it would have gravity pulling it down. ( and out) . Has there ever been
> a
> case where the safety pins came out of that clevis? Is my concern legit?
>
>
>
> Ed Diebel (447 Firefly )
>
>
Hi Ed,
There was a very long thread that I started last year in regard to safety
pins. Try putting your pins in from the Rear. I know that normal aircraft
protocol is that all bolt heads forward but in my Firefly the pins want to walk
forward. That will keep pressure on the head of the pin and maybe they wont rotate
On the other hand, I use a self lock castle nut and AN bolt followed by a
steel AN safety pin (not stainless). This requires about 5 extra min. but to me
it is worth it. Keep in mind that as far as I know, there has never been a
failure of a properly placed clevis and pin on a Kolb. The original design is
quick simple and reliable. I am sure if anyone knows of a failure they will
respond.
Steve
FF#007
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Blumax008(at)AOL.COM |
| Subject: | Re: Possible adult words? |
Well, if you guys are that uptight about "possible adult words," I need to
go someplace else. How do I unsubscribe?
Thanks & adios
Bill Catalina
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Richard Girard <jindoguy(at)gmail.com> |
I'm new to the Kolb list and Kolb flying, too, but I've been flying hang
gliders since 1974 so I have a bit of history with safety pins. There are
two "fixes" for rotating pins that I have used. One is to change to a
circular style pin, like the ones used for key rings. Bend the starting end
out slightly so it is less of a PITA to get the clip started in the clevis
pin hole. The second is to wire or zip tie the safety pin to a nearby
structure and make the lead short enough that the pin can only go in and
remain with the clip end down.
--
Rick Girard
"Pining for a home on the Range"
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| Subject: | Re: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... |
| From: | "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com> |
Don G wrote:
> 3rd try got 55.8 secs.......
[Shocked]
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NO FEAR - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!!
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| From: | "Denny Rowe" <rowedl(at)highstream.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Main Spar Clevis Pin Safety Pin |
Guys,
Don't forget the bottom tail wire wing nut and safety pin.
I have heard of the safety pin back there getting popped open by high grass.
So I use a castle nut and safety RING in place of the wing nut and safety
pin.
My $.02
Denny Rowe
Mk-3, 2SI 690-70
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| From: | Earl & Mim Zimmerman <emzi(at)supernet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Possible adult words? |
Blumax008(at)aol.com wrote:
>
> Well, if you guys are that uptight about "possible adult words," I need to
> go someplace else. How do I unsubscribe?
>
> Thanks & adios
> Bill Catalina
>
Bill it had nothing to do with anything that you said! I think that they
are taking about the warning that somehow got included in Lanny's reply
to your post. ~ Earl (copy)
> Kolb-List: How tight the tail wires? 1.80 SARE_ADLTSUB2 Contains possible
adult words
--
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| Subject: | Re: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... |
| From: | "Topher" <tophera(at)centurytel.net> |
Took a while but finally got above 20 seconds
--------
Topher
Yellow Aero SSTOL
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Possible adult words? |
At 08:02 AM 2/2/2006 Thursday, you wrote:
>
>Blumax008(at)aol.com wrote:
>>
>> Well, if you guys are that uptight about "possible adult words," I need to
>> go someplace else. How do I unsubscribe?
>>
>> Thanks & adios
>> Bill Catalina
>>
>
>Bill it had nothing to do with anything that you said! I think that they
>are taking about the warning that somehow got included in Lanny's reply
>to your post. ~ Earl (copy)
>
This was definitely not a "warning to a member". It is a email header tag added
by a spam filter appliance. I have an incoming filter for these, but there
are new ones being added all the time, so its a continual update process to clean
them all.
Matt Dralle
List Administrator
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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| From: | Lanny Fetterman <donaho(at)csrlink.net> |
| Subject: | Detroit & Sunday 10 mile no fly zone |
Hi all, I saw on the news that there is a 10 mile NO FLY zone around the
super bowl this Sunday. Lanny Fetterman N598 LF Firestar II Do
not archive
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "David Kulp" <undoctor(at)rcn.com> |
| Subject: | Vocations, avocations, and (NOT) CUTTING THREADS IN BOLTS |
I enjoyed reading the thread about vocations and avocations (other than flying
Kolbs). It adds personality to otherwise plain script and makes the list more
human, so I'd like to contribute info about me. I also feel compelled to comment
on the recent thread about cutting more threads on aircraft bolts.
I've driven 18-wheelers since about 1965 mostly throughout the eastern 24 states.
I have considerable experience hauling overdimension and overweight loads
and have always enjoyed the added challenges that come with the turf. The company
I drove for for 30 years folded so I took an early retirement and now work
one day a week for a regional carrier just because I enjoy it.
I ride motorcycle for most of my transportation needs and have almost 77K on my
2001 Honda ST1100. I've ridden in all the lower 48 except MO (seem to miss it
all the time), through Canada from Manitoba out to the west coast of Vancouver
Island (Long Beach, which is LOOOOOONG) and up to the Yukon Terr. By far my
best trip was on my BMW K100LT from Lansdale, PA to the Haul Rd.through the
Atigun Pass in the Brooks Mt. Range in AK, logging 11,014 miles in about 20 days.
I had a dog named Toots who rode with me for 15 years and had over 75,000
miles on my scoots when she died. She was on TV and many newspapers and mags
and rode from Cocoa Beach, FL to Lansdale, PA in one day; 8:30 AM to 3:30AM.
Still miss her!!!
A BELATED WORD ABOUT CUTTING THREADS IN BOLTS
I feel guilty for not posting this earlier in case someone who reads it may save
themselves some trouble. In 1990 I bought an underconstructed Chicken Hewk,
built by Pacific Aviation in Bellingham, WA. One Sunday, a week after I soloed,
an August thunderstorm was moving in so at 1,200' AGL I turned to land. As
soon as I completed my turn I encountered a severe downdraft (a fellow flying
nearby said I dropped about 30') and when I hit the bottom I felt something
pop and found there was no back pressure on the stick. When I got out of the
hospital and trailered the wreckage home I discovered that both the Teleflex push-pull
cables which were used for the ailerons had broken where they had adjustment
nuts at the stick.
I called Teleflex and since my house was only a couple of miles from the factory
an engineer asked to come and look at it. He told me that the cables are definately
not made for aircraft, only the throttle and clutch of a boat. He showed
me how they both fractured through the thread roots which are cut into the
adjustment rod at the end. He said the thread root of a cut thread is a weak
point like the chip on the edge of a piece of glass and that aircraft threads
are rolled in, which compresses the material and provides a rounded thread root.
He also showed me that the cross section of the one cable end was polished
half way through and told me that the plane had been flown with the adjustment
rod fractured half way through for a while before my catastrophe.
I hope this has been helpful. I'd also like to read more about other's sidelines
and interests.
Dave Kulp
Bethlehem, PA
Ultrastar
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| From: | "Gary r. voigt" <johndeereantique(at)qwest.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Detroit & Sunday 10 mile no fly zone |
I heard it was 30 mile?
Gary r. voigt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lanny Fetterman" <donaho(at)csrlink.net>
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 4:22 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Detroit & Sunday 10 mile no fly zone
>
> Hi all, I saw on the news that there is a 10 mile NO FLY zone around the
> super bowl this Sunday. Lanny Fetterman N598 LF Firestar II Do
> not archive
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Robert Laird <rlaird(at)cavediver.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Detroit & Sunday 10 mile no fly zone |
You guys really need to go to the source.... here's the TFR...
-------------------------------------------------
6/1310 - PART 1 OF 4 MI.. FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS FORD FIELD, DETROIT, MI.
PURSUANT TO TITLE 14 CFR SECTION 99.7, SPECIAL SECURITY INSTRUCTIONS,
ALL AIRCRAFT FLIGHT OPERATIONS ARE PROHIBITED DUE TO THE NATIONAL
FOOTBALL LEAGUE SUPER BOWL. WITHIN A 30 NMR OF 422025N/0830243W OR THE
YQG305011.1 UP TO BUT NOT INCLUDING FL180. EFFECTIVE 0602052100 UTC
(1600 LOCAL 02/05/06) UNTIL 0602060459 UTC (2359 LOCAL 02/05/06).
WITHIN A 10 NMR OF 422025N/0830243W OR THE YQG305011.1 UP TP BUT NOT
INCLUDING FL180. EFFECTIVE 0602052100 UTC (1600 LOCAL 02/05/06) UNTIL
0602060459 UTC (2359 LOCAL 02/05/06). EXCEPT AS SPECIFIED BELOW
EXCLUDING CANADIAN AIRSPACE: A. ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATIONS WITHIN A 10
NMR AREA LISTED ABOVE ARE PROHIBITED EXCEPT FOR: 1. APPROVED LAW
ENFORCEMENT, MILITARY AIRCRAFT, EMERGENCY MEDICAL FLIGHTS IN DIRECT
CONTACT WITH ATC AND ARE SQUAWKING AN ASSIGN DISCRETE BEACON CODE. 2.
COMMERCIAL PASSENGER, PRIVATE CHARTER AND ALL-CARGO CARRIERS OPERATING
UNDER ONE OF THE FOLLOWING TSA-APPROVED STANDARD SECURITY
PROGRAMS/PROCEDURES: AIRCRAFT OPERATOR STANDARD END PART 1 OF 4 WIE
UNTIL UFN
PART 2 OF 4 MI.. FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS FORD FIELD, SECURITY PROGRAM
(AOSSP), DOMESTIC SECURITY INTEGRATION PROGRAM (DSIP), TWELVE FIVE
STANDARD SECURITY PROGRAM (TFSSP), PRIVATE CHARTER STANDARD SECURITY
PROGRAM (PCSSP), ALL-CARGO INTERNATIONAL SECURITY PROCEDURE (ACISP),
OR MODEL SECURITY PROGRAM (MSP) AND ARE ARRIVING INTO AND/OR DEPARTING
FROM 49 CFR PART 1542. 3. EXCEPT AS AUTHORIZED IN PART C. B. WITHIN
THE AIRSPACE BETWEEN 10 NMR AND 30 NMR LISTED ABOVE: 1. ALL AIRCRAFT
ENTERING OR EXITING THE 30 NM RADIUS TFR MUST BE ON AN ACTIVE IFR OR
VFR FLIGHT PLAN WITH A DISCRETE CODE ASSIGNED BY AN AIR TRAFFIC
CONTROL (ATC) FACILITY. AIRCRAFT MUST BE SQUAWKING THE DISCRETE CODE
PRIOR TO DEPARTURE AND AT ALL TIMES WHILE IN THE TFR. 2. ALL AIRCRAFT
ENTERING OR EXITING THE 30 NM RADIUS TFR MUST REMAIN IN TWO-WAY RADIO
COMMUNICATIONS WITH ATC. 3. ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATING WITHIN THE 10 TO 30
NM RADIUS TFR AND OPERATING AT ALTITUDES OF UP TO BUT NOT INCLUDING
FL180 ARE LIMITED TO AIRCRAFT ARRIVING OR DEPARTING LOCAL AIR- FIELDS
AND ATC MAY AUTHORIZE TRANSIT OPERATIONS. AIRCRAFT MAY NOT LOITER. END
PART 2 OF 4 WIE UNTIL UFN
PART 3 OF 4 MI.. FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS FORD FIELD, 4. FLIGHT TRAINING,
PRACTICE INSTRUMENT APPROACHES, AEROBATIC FLIGHT, GLIDER OPERATIONS,
PARACHUTE OPERATIONS, ULTRALIGHT, HANG GLIDING, BALLOON OPERATIONS,
AGRICULTURE/CROP DUSTING, ANIMAL POPULATION CONTROL FLIGHT OPERATIONS,
AND BANNER TOWING OPERATIONS ARE NOT AUTHORIZED. C. DETROIT
METROPOLITAN (DTW) ARRIVALS/DEPARTURES ARE AUTHORIZED UNDER THE
FOLLOWING CONDITIONS: 1. BE ON AN ACTIVE IFR FLIGHT PLAN WITH A
DISCRETE CODE ASSIGNED BY ATC. 2. REMAIN IN TWO-WAY RADIO
COMMUNICATIONS WITH ATC. D. AIRCRAFT OPERATORS WHO HAVE PREVIOUSLY
RECEIVED WAIVERS UNDER NOTAM 3/1862 MUST REAPPLY. ALL WAIVER
APPLICATIONS ARE SUBJECT TO THE PROVISIONS IDENTIFIED IN SECTION 521
OF PUBLIC LAW 108-199. APPLICATIONS CAN BE OBTAINED FROM THE FAA
WEBSITE AT HTTP://WAIVER.TFR.FAA.GOV E. FAA RECOMMENDS THAT ALL
AIRCRAFT OPERATORS CHECK NOTAMS FREQUENTLY FOR POSSIBLE CHANGES TO
THIS TFR PRIOR TO OPERATIONS WITHIN THIS REGION. NOTE THAT A SIMILAR
AIRSPACE. SEE CANADIAN NOTAMS. SYSTEM OPERATIONS SUPPORT CENTER, PHONE
END PART 3 OF 4 WIE UNTIL UFN
PART 4 OF 4 MI.. FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS FORD FIELD, 202-267-8276 IS THE
POINT OF CONTACT. THE FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION /FAA/ SOSC,
PHONE 202-267-3333, IS THE COORDINATION FACILITY. END PART 4 OF 4 WIE
UNTIL UFN
On 2/2/06, Gary r. voigt wrote:
>
> I heard it was 30 mile?
>
> Gary r. voigt
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lanny Fetterman" <donaho(at)csrlink.net>
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 4:22 PM
> Subject: Kolb-List: Detroit & Sunday 10 mile no fly zone
>
>
> >
> > Hi all, I saw on the news that there is a 10 mile NO FLY zone around the
> > super bowl this Sunday. Lanny Fetterman N598 LF Firestar II Do
> > not archive
> >
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | David Lehman <david(at)davidlehman.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Detroit & Sunday 10 mile no fly zone |
30 miles...
http://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_6_1310.html
On 2/2/06, Gary r. voigt wrote:
>
> johndeereantique(at)qwest.net>
>
> I heard it was 30 mile?
>
> Gary r. voigt
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lanny Fetterman" <donaho(at)csrlink.net>
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 4:22 PM
> Subject: Kolb-List: Detroit & Sunday 10 mile no fly zone
>
>
> >
> > Hi all, I saw on the news that there is a 10 mile NO FLY zone around the
> > super bowl this Sunday. Lanny Fetterman N598 LF Firestar II
> Do
> > not archive
> >
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Gary r. voigt" <johndeereantique(at)qwest.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Detroit & Sunday 10 mile no fly zone |
like i saidm, 30 miles....my news is the source...
Gary...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Laird" <rlaird(at)cavediver.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Detroit & Sunday 10 mile no fly zone
>
> You guys really need to go to the source.... here's the TFR...
>
> -------------------------------------------------
>
> 6/1310 - PART 1 OF 4 MI.. FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS FORD FIELD, DETROIT, MI.
> PURSUANT TO TITLE 14 CFR SECTION 99.7, SPECIAL SECURITY INSTRUCTIONS,
> ALL AIRCRAFT FLIGHT OPERATIONS ARE PROHIBITED DUE TO THE NATIONAL
> FOOTBALL LEAGUE SUPER BOWL. WITHIN A 30 NMR OF 422025N/0830243W OR THE
> YQG305011.1 UP TO BUT NOT INCLUDING FL180. EFFECTIVE 0602052100 UTC
> (1600 LOCAL 02/05/06) UNTIL 0602060459 UTC (2359 LOCAL 02/05/06).
> WITHIN A 10 NMR OF 422025N/0830243W OR THE YQG305011.1 UP TP BUT NOT
> INCLUDING FL180. EFFECTIVE 0602052100 UTC (1600 LOCAL 02/05/06) UNTIL
> 0602060459 UTC (2359 LOCAL 02/05/06). EXCEPT AS SPECIFIED BELOW
> EXCLUDING CANADIAN AIRSPACE: A. ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATIONS WITHIN A 10
> NMR AREA LISTED ABOVE ARE PROHIBITED EXCEPT FOR: 1. APPROVED LAW
> ENFORCEMENT, MILITARY AIRCRAFT, EMERGENCY MEDICAL FLIGHTS IN DIRECT
> CONTACT WITH ATC AND ARE SQUAWKING AN ASSIGN DISCRETE BEACON CODE. 2.
> COMMERCIAL PASSENGER, PRIVATE CHARTER AND ALL-CARGO CARRIERS OPERATING
> UNDER ONE OF THE FOLLOWING TSA-APPROVED STANDARD SECURITY
> PROGRAMS/PROCEDURES: AIRCRAFT OPERATOR STANDARD END PART 1 OF 4 WIE
> UNTIL UFN
>
> PART 2 OF 4 MI.. FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS FORD FIELD, SECURITY PROGRAM
> (AOSSP), DOMESTIC SECURITY INTEGRATION PROGRAM (DSIP), TWELVE FIVE
> STANDARD SECURITY PROGRAM (TFSSP), PRIVATE CHARTER STANDARD SECURITY
> PROGRAM (PCSSP), ALL-CARGO INTERNATIONAL SECURITY PROCEDURE (ACISP),
> OR MODEL SECURITY PROGRAM (MSP) AND ARE ARRIVING INTO AND/OR DEPARTING
> FROM 49 CFR PART 1542. 3. EXCEPT AS AUTHORIZED IN PART C. B. WITHIN
> THE AIRSPACE BETWEEN 10 NMR AND 30 NMR LISTED ABOVE: 1. ALL AIRCRAFT
> ENTERING OR EXITING THE 30 NM RADIUS TFR MUST BE ON AN ACTIVE IFR OR
> VFR FLIGHT PLAN WITH A DISCRETE CODE ASSIGNED BY AN AIR TRAFFIC
> CONTROL (ATC) FACILITY. AIRCRAFT MUST BE SQUAWKING THE DISCRETE CODE
> PRIOR TO DEPARTURE AND AT ALL TIMES WHILE IN THE TFR. 2. ALL AIRCRAFT
> ENTERING OR EXITING THE 30 NM RADIUS TFR MUST REMAIN IN TWO-WAY RADIO
> COMMUNICATIONS WITH ATC. 3. ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATING WITHIN THE 10 TO 30
> NM RADIUS TFR AND OPERATING AT ALTITUDES OF UP TO BUT NOT INCLUDING
> FL180 ARE LIMITED TO AIRCRAFT ARRIVING OR DEPARTING LOCAL AIR- FIELDS
> AND ATC MAY AUTHORIZE TRANSIT OPERATIONS. AIRCRAFT MAY NOT LOITER. END
> PART 2 OF 4 WIE UNTIL UFN
>
> PART 3 OF 4 MI.. FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS FORD FIELD, 4. FLIGHT TRAINING,
> PRACTICE INSTRUMENT APPROACHES, AEROBATIC FLIGHT, GLIDER OPERATIONS,
> PARACHUTE OPERATIONS, ULTRALIGHT, HANG GLIDING, BALLOON OPERATIONS,
> AGRICULTURE/CROP DUSTING, ANIMAL POPULATION CONTROL FLIGHT OPERATIONS,
> AND BANNER TOWING OPERATIONS ARE NOT AUTHORIZED. C. DETROIT
> METROPOLITAN (DTW) ARRIVALS/DEPARTURES ARE AUTHORIZED UNDER THE
> FOLLOWING CONDITIONS: 1. BE ON AN ACTIVE IFR FLIGHT PLAN WITH A
> DISCRETE CODE ASSIGNED BY ATC. 2. REMAIN IN TWO-WAY RADIO
> COMMUNICATIONS WITH ATC. D. AIRCRAFT OPERATORS WHO HAVE PREVIOUSLY
> RECEIVED WAIVERS UNDER NOTAM 3/1862 MUST REAPPLY. ALL WAIVER
> APPLICATIONS ARE SUBJECT TO THE PROVISIONS IDENTIFIED IN SECTION 521
> OF PUBLIC LAW 108-199. APPLICATIONS CAN BE OBTAINED FROM THE FAA
> WEBSITE AT HTTP://WAIVER.TFR.FAA.GOV E. FAA RECOMMENDS THAT ALL
> AIRCRAFT OPERATORS CHECK NOTAMS FREQUENTLY FOR POSSIBLE CHANGES TO
> THIS TFR PRIOR TO OPERATIONS WITHIN THIS REGION. NOTE THAT A SIMILAR
> AIRSPACE. SEE CANADIAN NOTAMS. SYSTEM OPERATIONS SUPPORT CENTER, PHONE
> END PART 3 OF 4 WIE UNTIL UFN
>
> PART 4 OF 4 MI.. FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS FORD FIELD, 202-267-8276 IS THE
> POINT OF CONTACT. THE FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION /FAA/ SOSC,
> PHONE 202-267-3333, IS THE COORDINATION FACILITY. END PART 4 OF 4 WIE
> UNTIL UFN
>
>
> On 2/2/06, Gary r. voigt wrote:
> >
> > I heard it was 30 mile?
> >
> > Gary r. voigt
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Lanny Fetterman" <donaho(at)csrlink.net>
> > To:
> > Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 4:22 PM
> > Subject: Kolb-List: Detroit & Sunday 10 mile no fly zone
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Hi all, I saw on the news that there is a 10 mile NO FLY zone around
the
> > > super bowl this Sunday. Lanny Fetterman N598 LF Firestar II
Do
> > > not archive
> > >
>
>
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| From: | "David.Lehman" <david(at)davidlehman.net> |
slyck(at)frontiernet.net wrote:
> Don't know if you are speaking of the length of the probe
> or the tubing going to the cabin instrument. The probe
> can be any length. The tubing also. -within reason, not talking miles
> here.
> Pressure drop of a fluid in a pipe (air being also a fluid)
> is a function of cross section times distance traveled.
> The diff in a pitot static system is that there is no flow,
> hence no pressure drop.
> -BB
Bob...
Here's a "duh"... Given what you wrote, I really don't need the "tube" because
the bulkhead fitting is forward of the nose about 7/8" and should be in undisturbed
air?...
Thanx...
DVD
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http://photobucket.com/albums/e327/N446/
Do not spin this aircraft. If the aircraft does enter a spin it will return to
earth without further attention on the part of the aeronaut.
first handbook issued with the Curtis-Wright flyer.
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=9167#9167
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| Subject: | Re: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... |
Do I play video games...hehe...not hardly...although when we first got married
we did buy an atari...think I still have it somewhere...
probably just got lucky..
I have used flight sims quite abit ...if that counts
Don
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Don G
FireFly#098
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=9261#9261
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| From: | kuffel(at)cyberport.net |
DVD asks:
<>
As in most things aeronautic, "not exactly". 7/8" in front of the wing or
nose cone the air is relatively undisturbed *relative to the surface*. In
other words, almost static. Unfortunately, what you need to measure is
air undisturbed relative to the ground (+/- wind of course). The general
rule is to reach such air you should be as far away from the nearest
surface as the radius of curvature of that surface.
This effect caused a very low and nervous first flight for a friend in his
new Mark III. He had mounted a commercial combined static/pitot probe on
the front of his nose cone. It was about 6 " long which is more than
enough for a wing mounting but in front of the much larger radius nose
cone put it in stagnant air. The resulting low pitot pressure had him
thinking he was on the verge of stall all the way around the pattern when
it turns out he was doing over 80 mph.
The good news is you don't have to abide by the "general rule" to get
useful, repeatable airspeed indications. The airplane will stall at the
same indicated airspeed at the same g loading every time. Just don't
expect the airspeed to be accurate or the same error through out its
range. Use a GPS to find out the actual speed of your 1 g stall and then
use the GPS to find out which indicated airspeed is 1.3 times the stall
speed. This indicated speed is then your normal approach speed (says the
FAA).
My friend increased the range of his indicated airspeeds by disconnecting
the static part of the commercial probe and using the interior of the nose
cone as his static source. This worked fine except for the errors in
caused in his altimeter.....
Tom Kuffel
Whitefish, MT
Building Original FireStar
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| From: | robert bean <slyck(at)frontiernet.net> |
That same effect is what will make me reform the front of my handmade
aluminum nose cone. At easy cruise and below the airspeed works ok.
If I crank it
up the nose tips down and the ASI starts doing a little dance.
The probe is located 15" back of the front and 3 1/4" standoff from the
bottom.
The air should be linear at that point, fast or slow.
Eventually I may know how fast I'm going.
-BB
On 3, Feb 2006, at 2:26 AM, kuffel(at)cyberport.net wrote:
>
> DVD asks:
>
> < nose about 7/8" and should be in undisturbed air?>>
>
> As in most things aeronautic, "not exactly". 7/8" in front of the
> wing or
> nose cone the air is relatively undisturbed *relative to the surface*.
> In
> other words, almost static. Unfortunately, what you need to measure is
> air undisturbed relative to the ground (+/- wind of course). The
> general
> rule is to reach such air you should be as far away from the nearest
> surface as the radius of curvature of that surface.
>
>
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| From: | "lndc" <lndc(at)fnbcnet.com> |
I have nothing to trade. I also own a fat UL. I would love to have a Firefly UL
but I don't think there is such a critter. I'm told that it could make weight.
But if there is a legal 103 Firefly out there, I would like to hear about it.
Dan Charter
Original Firestar
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=9321#9321
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| From: | "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart(at)onlyinternet.net> |
>
>I have nothing to trade. I also own a fat UL. I would love to have a Firefly UL
but I don't think there is such a critter. I'm told that it could make weight.
But if there is a legal 103 Firefly out there, I would like to hear about it.
>Dan Charter
>Original Firestar
>
Dan,
It can be done.
http://www.thirdshift.com/jack/firefly/firefly.html
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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| From: | Robert Dorsey <lnc2bldr(at)earthlink.net> |
I just sold one. No brakes, no starter, nice but not spectacular paint job. Came
in at 254 + 11oz. with around 5 extra feet of egt and cht cables that could
have been trimmed down. If you have part 103 legal as a priority it can easily
be done.
Bob Dorsey
Sold 103 legal FF
Lancair 360 in progress
Bonanza flying
-----Original Message-----
>From: lndc <lndc(at)fnbcnet.com>
>Sent: Feb 3, 2006 7:57 AM
>To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
>Subject: Kolb-List: Re: trade?
>
>
>I have nothing to trade. I also own a fat UL. I would love to have a Firefly UL
but I don't think there is such a critter. I'm told that it could make weight.
But if there is a legal 103 Firefly out there, I would like to hear about it.
>Dan Charter
>Original Firestar
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=9321#9321
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| From: | Rick Miles <ultrastarrick(at)yahoo.com> |
Look at a F-16 the tube is mounted on a boom that brings it well infront of the
nose cone into cleen air
That same effect is what will make me reform the front of my handmade
aluminum nose cone. At easy cruise and below the airspeed works ok.
If I crank it
up the nose tips down and the ASI starts doing a little dance.
The probe is located 15" back of the front and 3 1/4" standoff from the
bottom.
The air should be linear at that point, fast or slow.
Eventually I may know how fast I'm going.
-BB
On 3, Feb 2006, at 2:26 AM, kuffel(at)cyberport.net wrote:
>
> DVD asks:
>
> <> nose about 7/8" and should be in undisturbed air?>>
>
> As in most things aeronautic, "not exactly". 7/8" in front of the
> wing or
> nose cone the air is relatively undisturbed *relative to the surface*.
> In
> other words, almost static. Unfortunately, what you need to measure is
> air undisturbed relative to the ground (+/- wind of course). The
> general
> rule is to reach such air you should be as far away from the nearest
> surface as the radius of curvature of that surface.
>
>
---------------------------------
Brings words and photos together (easily) with
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| From: | "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com> |
Thats easy, you just take everything off you can before its weighed and then put
your brakes etc. back on afterwards :)
--------
NO FEAR - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!!
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| Subject: | Winter Flying in Texas |
| From: | "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot2(at)comcast.net> |
No snow down here so I had to go flying!!!
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John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolbra, 912ULS
http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot1
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| From: | kuffel(at)cyberport.net |
Sorry, I forgot a topic line.
Bob Bean:
<>
First you might try an old trick in reverse. If your pitot tube is really
a tube, file the front at at angle to form a scoop. For your case the
lower edge of the tube would be forward.
Filing the front of the tube with the upper edge forward has sometimes
helped with wing mounted pitots which had abnormally low indicated
airspeeds at stall. Doing the opposite might help and certainly is easier
to try than a new nose cone.
Tom Kuffel
Whitefish, MT
Building Original FireStar
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| From: | "pat ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: : Kolb-List: |
I'll cut until I find the airspeed indicator is affected...>>
What are you going to do then, Dave? Stick a bit back on?
Cheers
Pat
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| From: | Richard Pike <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
| Subject: | Re: Pitot Geometry |
Move it about 15" forward and a bit down. If your pitot tube and static
air openings are about even with the front of the nose bowl, and at
least 6" below it, it will work perfectly.
Here is an example:
http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/pg7.htm
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
robert bean wrote:
>
> That same effect is what will make me reform the front of my handmade
> aluminum nose cone. At easy cruise and below the airspeed works ok.
> If I crank it
> up the nose tips down and the ASI starts doing a little dance.
> The probe is located 15" back of the front and 3 1/4" standoff from the
> bottom.
> The air should be linear at that point, fast or slow.
>
> Eventually I may know how fast I'm going.
> -BB
> On 3, Feb 2006, at 2:26 AM, kuffel(at)cyberport.net wrote:
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>> DVD asks:
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>> <> nose about 7/8" and should be in undisturbed air?>>
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>> As in most things aeronautic, "not exactly". 7/8" in front of the
>> wing or
>> nose cone the air is relatively undisturbed *relative to the surface*.
>> In
>> other words, almost static. Unfortunately, what you need to measure is
>> air undisturbed relative to the ground (+/- wind of course). The
>> general
>> rule is to reach such air you should be as far away from the nearest
>> surface as the radius of curvature of that surface.
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| Subject: | Re: : Kolb-List: |
| From: | "David.Lehman" <david(at)davidlehman.net> |
pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com wrote:
> I'll cut until I find the airspeed indicator is affected...>>
> What are you going to do then, Dave? Stick a bit back on?
> Cheers
> Pat--
Thank goodness for Super Glue ;-) ...
DVD
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http://photobucket.com/albums/e327/N446/
Do not spin this aircraft. If the aircraft does enter a spin it will return to
earth without further attention on the part of the aeronaut.
first handbook issued with the Curtis-Wright flyer.
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| Subject: | Re: Winter Flying in Texas |
| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
Hi John W/Gang:
Having the same conditions here in Alabama, but I left the new exhaust system w/Bro
Jim In Woodville, FL, to reweld and reinforce all four tabs on both silencers.
Tough being grounded temporarily.
Picked up my 5th wheel in Woodville, and pulled it to Lucedale, MS, for the 912
School. Nothing extraordinary to pass on. Rotax continues to make small improvements
to the 912 series engines as well as increases in prices. Spare parts
are completely out of sight. I believe they are going to outprice themselves
for us little guys living on retirement and fixed incomes. Although an extremely
good, reliable engine, 14 to 15 thousand dollars is more than I want to
invest in a new engine. Maybe an adequate replacement will come along before
I need a new one. Based on condition inspections, my 912ULS should run reliably
to 3,000 hours. The life of the engine is frequent oil changes if the user
is using a lot of 100LL fuel, which we have to do when we do cross country flights.
If we could feed them on a steady diet of 91 octane or higher auto fuel,
we could stick to the recommended 100 hour oil changes.
Spark plug change interval remains at 200 hours for the 912UL and 100 hours for
the 912ULS. However, both engines will easily exceed these time intervals with
satisfactory results.
Guessing that is Ken K's Tornado in the sunset. Beautiful photo.
Take care,
john h
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John Hauck
MKIII/912ULS
hauck's holler, alabama
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: : Kolb-List: |
| Now I'm thinking a wing strut mount would be even
| better. | -BB, go ahead and archive pitot
Modrning Bob B/Gang:
I mounted my pitot/static system below the outboard end of the right
hand lift strut on the MKIII. Works fine.
I have also had them on the nose of the nose cone, under the nose
cone, and in the middle of the lift strut. System worked well in all
locations, except under the nose cone when I let the FS go up on its
nose. ;-)
Best system for up to 75 mph was the Winter Venturi ASI designed
primarily for sail planes. A very accurate instrument from nearly 0
to 75 mph. Operated on a venturi and not pitot pressure and static
pressure. Takes the error out of airspeed systems for our little
airplanes. Careful interpolation will allow you to read up to 85 mph
as the needle begins its second trip around the dial.
The Winter Venturi ASI in the photo shows 100 mph, but when it come to
ordering, it only gives a choice of 0 to 75 mph. Would be nice to
have one 0 to 100 or 110 mph. The beauty of this gauge is its extreme
accuracy on the low side of the scale. Allowed us to play close to
the stall in our FS's and US's.
http://www.airstuff.com/eshop/10Browse.asp
Take care,
john h
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| Subject: | Re: : Kolb-List: |
In a message dated 2/3/06 11:34:43 AM Central Standard Time,
jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com writes:
> Best system for up to 75 mph was the Winter Venturi ASI designed
> primarily for sail planes. A very accurate instrument from nearly 0
> to 75 mph.
thanks for the idea John, what does the sender look like and how big? It is
not shown on the website
Steve B
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: : Kolb-List: |
| thanks for the idea John, what does the sender look like and how
big? It is
| not shown on the website
|
| Steve B
Hi Steve B/Gang:
The venturi is small and placed 90 deg to the mounting tube. Easily
mounts to the lift strut, or it will also mount down through the
bottom of the nose cone.
Tried to find a photo of the venturi online, but failed. I may have
one stuck away in the bottom draw somewhere. If I come across one, I
will post it to the List.
john h
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| From: | Robert Noyer <a58r(at)verizon.net> |
While you are cutting/adjusting yer pitot, cut it within an inch or
so of the nose cone, and then extend it via a short pc. of vinyl
tubing. This makes it flexible so it won't get broken/bent next time
a coat gets caught on it, or some cretin's ankle-biter fools with it.
Bob N. maybe good enough to archive?
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy
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In a message dated 2/3/06 8:59:29 AM Central Standard Time, lndc(at)fnbcnet.com
writes:
> But if there is a legal 103 Firefly out there, I would like to hear about
> it.
> Dan Charter
> Original Firestar
>
Dan, It can be done, even with floats. You just have to get back to the
purity of what UL was.
Steve B
FF#007 on floats
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| Subject: | Re: Pitot Geometry |
| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
> I would like to get it up where its safe though, I have a tendency to
> go where no man has gone before. (the brush)
Hi Bob: You did not clarify if that excursion to the brush was controlled, intentional,
or uncontrolled and unintentional.
john h
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John Hauck
MKIII/912ULS
hauck's holler, alabama
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| Subject: | Re: Winter Flying in Texas |
| From: | "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com> |
Beautiful pictures John, looks like you are having more fun than the rest of us...
I loved the video, I wold really like to see more flying videos posted.
I will be posting a bunch as soon as im flying :)
Michael A. Bigelow
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| From: | Earl & Mim Zimmerman <emzi(at)supernet.com> |
| Subject: | Where're You At?? |
For anybody that may have been gone for a few days, we started a Kolb
family map. Please consider joining us. Thanks! ~ Earl
http://www.frappr.com/kolbaircraft
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| From: | "Don Martin" <kolbdriver(at)hotmail.com> |
Hi John,
Did you just plug your comtronics headset into the DRE intercom or switch to
a DRE headset also?
Don
>From: John Jung <jrjungjr(at)yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
>To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: ANR
>Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 04:47:41 -0700
>
>
>Lanny and Group,
>
>When I used a Comtronics set, the mic would pick up the sound of the
>engine and put it through the speakers, making it all but impossible to
>communicate. I switched to a DRE intercom and that problem went away.
>It is important to have a unit with a good squelch.
>
>John Jung
>Firestar II N6163J
>Surprise, AZ
>
>On Nov 26, 2005, at 12:56 AM, Kolb-List Digest Server wrote:
>
> >
> > Happy Thanksgiving to all, Where do you buy an ANR kit, and do you
> > think it
>will work with a Comtronics dual-com? My set up works well,
>however, there is always the drone of the engine coming through the
>earphones.
>
>
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| From: | "Larry Bourne" <biglar(at)gogittum.com> |
| Subject: | Bearing Wash-out |
A while back I posted that Vamoose' oil pressure was over 80 psi, and someone made
a remark about "bearing wash out," I think. Never heard that expression before,
and haven't been able to find anyone around here who has. Could you explain
what you mean by that ?? What causes it, what are the effects, etc. I,
and people I've talked to, seem to feel that the more oil flow the better. Educate
me, please. Lar.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
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| From: | "Carlos" <grageda(at)innw.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Where're You At??/ Spy ware problems |
Hi All,
Just a word of caution regarding "Frapper". There appears to be spyware
associated with this web site which caused a slowdown of my computer.. I
double checked to be sure and there seems to be a problem at this "Frapper"
site.
I dont know the circumstances of this site as it is new to me. They may have
been infected without their knowledge.
Please advise when this site is safe to visit.
Thanks
Carlos Grageda
----- Original Message -----
From: "Earl & Mim Zimmerman" <emzi(at)supernet.com>
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 6:51 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Where're You At??
>
> For anybody that may have been gone for a few days, we started a Kolb
> family map. Please consider joining us. Thanks! ~ Earl
> http://www.frappr.com/kolbaircraft
>
>
> --
>
>
>
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| From: | "pat ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Pitot Geometry |
Move it about 15" forward and a bit down. If your pitot tube and static
> air openings are about even with the front of the nose bowl, and at
> least 6" below it, it will work perfectly.>>
Gosh!, and all this time I thought it was just a matter of putting the pitot
where the cows didn`t knock it off.
Cheers
Pat :-)
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| From: | "pat ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Where're You At??/ Spy ware problems |
(Frapper) caused a slowdown of my computer.. >>
Hi,
I am not sure about spyware but the frapper site certainly takes its time to
do anything. I have just given up trying to add it to my `favorites`
Cheers
Pat
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| From: | "djo" <djo(at)unet.com.mk> |
| Subject: | Re: Entusiastic group |
Thank you all for replying on the e-mail and especially to the ones that
donated some materials.
Just short explanation to all of you that got so egger to argue and protect
your rights.
We are academic and student group from the Mechanical University in
Macedonia.
(Republic of Macedonia)
This project is done in close with aero club "SKOPJE".
The basic of the project is to expand the knowledge of construction and
building to the students and everybody interested in. We are under funded
and not able to bye all the necessary materials.
That is the reason we are not looking for a specific plan or material but
anything will work out fine. So basically the point is not to reproduce the
project but just in practical way to explain the possibilities that one
thing can be done in different way.
All of you that are interested I can provide you with the contacts of the
University and the leaders of the project.
Hope this mail will clear my name in this chat group.
All best
Georgi
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Clayton" <jspc78(at)yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 11:01 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Entusiastic group
>
> Greetings all,
>
> This was posted to the homebuilt list this morning,
> and I think Sid got it right, so I am cross posting it
> here.
>
> This smells like a scam to me.
>
> -Jim
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-homebuilt-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-homebuilt-list-server(at)matronics.com] On
> Behalf Of Sid Hausding
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 7:20 AM
> To: homebuilt-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Homebuilt-List: group
>
> --> Homebuilt-List message posted by: Sid Hausding
>
>
> I'm not saying this gentleman is one, but we have seen
> this request on other aviation forums as a
> scam............someone is getting free aircraft plans
> and manuals, copying them and then turning around and
> selling unauthorized copies without the owner's or
> designers persmission.
> I would wonder why a class would want several
> designs and not just one that they could work
> from............sounds too much like the "getting
> something for nothing" idea and the ebay scam all over
> again.
> I belong to four aviation forums and have seen this
> request twice already and heard the same story from
> several other friends on other type specific
> lists......
>
> Hausding, Sid
> Alpena, Michigan
> ------------------------
>
> djo wrote:
> --> Homebuilt-List message posted by: "djo"
>
> Hello All;
> We are group of students working on a student project
> of design and building of light airplane.
> All your donation of plans and user manuals for
> airplanes and motorized sailplanes will be welcomed
> and mentioned.
> Please send them in PDF or DWG format.
> All best;
> Georgi Petkovski
> ak group
> please use this e-mail
> brkonja(at)gmail.com
>
>
>
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| From: | Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Frapper problems |
Hey guys,
The problem you are seeing is caused by the phenomenal growth of the
site
overwhelming the potential of the server to handle the traffic at
peak use times .
Try it at another time, it still works fine for me.
Just be patient because I'm sure they will add server to capacity
to deal with the new traffic.
On Feb 4, 2006, at 7:12 AM, pat ladd wrote:
>
> (Frapper) caused a slowdown of my computer.. >>
>
> Hi,
> I am not sure about spyware but the frapper site certainly takes
> its time to
> do anything. I have just given up trying to add it to my `favorites`
>
> Cheers
>
> Pat
>
>
> --
>
>
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| From: | "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel(at)kfalls.net> |
I checked my computer with a spy ware program and found nothing at all. One of
the few times that has happened. Perhaps you got it somewhere else. I agree Frapper
is like watching grass grow, but it doesn't seem to have infected me with
spy ware.
Larry,Oregon
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| From: | "Ed Chmielewski" <edchmiel(at)mindspring.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Bearing Wash-out |
Hi Lar,
I never heard the term before, but in the case of oil pressure "too
much of a good thing" can indeed be bad. A fluid under great pressure will
find the path of least resistance, and indeed with high oil pressure the
bearings may be exposed to less-optimum lubrication due to the oil going to
places it's not meant to, or in the wrong proportion. Your oil cooler and
thermostat will both be operating at the edge (or beyond) of their design
limits also. I saw more than a couple VW oil coolers rupture after a HP
aftermarket oil pump was fitted, and had a filter rupture on a bus I owned
after I dialed the pressure up a bit too high. 60 psi (IIRC) seemed like a
good upper limit. We used to grind the pressure springs down, before they
came up with the adjustable pressure limiters.
With GA aircraft after an engine change or other major work, it's
important to have the A&P adjust the pressure (usually down) on the high
limit to keep it in the green arc.
Ed in JXN
MkII/503
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar(at)gogittum.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 12:40 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Bearing Wash-out
>
> A while back I posted that Vamoose' oil pressure was over 80 psi, and
> someone made a remark about "bearing wash out," I think. Never heard that
> expression before, and haven't been able to find anyone around here who
> has. Could you explain what you mean by that ?? What causes it, what are
> the effects, etc. I, and people I've talked to, seem to feel that the
> more oil flow the better. Educate me, please. Lar.
>
> Larry Bourne
> Palm Springs, CA
> Building Kolb Mk III
> N78LB Vamoose
> www.gogittum.com
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| Subject: | Re: Bearing Wash-out |
| From: | "biglar" <biglar(at)gogittum.com> |
Thanks to you, too, Don. Right now I'm grabbing at straws, trying to avoid pulling
the thing apart again. If this doesn't work.........OK, tear'm to pieces.
We'll see. It's getting to be daylight late enuf now to where I'll soon be
able to do a little on it after work. Lar. Do not
Archive.
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Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk IIIC
Vamoose
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| From: | "Ralph" <ul15rhb(at)juno.com> |
| Subject: | winter flying in Minnesota |
Guys,
Here are some pics of winter flying in Minnesota today (2/4/2006).
http://frogflyers.com/phpbb/album_cat.php?cat_id=9
Ralph
Original Firestar
19 years flying it
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| Subject: | Re: winter flying in Minnesota |
| From: | "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com> |
Oh my gawd that looks cold [Shocked] I can immagine it in maybe a fully enclosed
MK-III, but in the open... That had to be cold ! The skis look really
neat on a firestar. The pictures were great, wish I was flying this weekend
[Crying or Very sad]
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| From: | "boyd" <by0ung(at)brigham.net> |
This effect caused a very low and nervous first flight for a friend in his
new Mark III. He had mounted a commercial combined static/pitot probe on
the front of his nose cone. It was about 6 " long which is more than
enough for a wing mounting but in front of the much larger radius nose
cone put it in stagnant air. The resulting low pitot pressure had him
thinking he was on the verge of stall all the way around the pattern when
it turns out he was doing over 80 mph.
Tom Kuffel
Whitefish, MT
Building Original FireStar
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Tom it was good to read your comments.
I did about the same thing when I first flew my mklll. As I remember the
pitot worked ok but the static pressure was high... by disconnecting the
static tube and letting it vent inside the nosecone things were much closer
to normal.. I then moved the pitot static tubes to under the nose cone
to correct the problem..
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| From: | WillUribe(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Entusiastic group |
Pat,
I too was thinking you were talking about the Caravan 675 from Cessna. I
thought, why don't they just fly them over?
After Thom's post it made since you were talking about camper trailers.
(http://caravan675.cessna.com/)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Thom Riddle
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 7:26 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Entusiastic group
Pat,
In the USA, when most pilots hear the word "caravan" they think of the
big Cessna Turboprop. Americans call caravans trailers. This was part
of my education in the English language by my English son-in-law who is
from Carlisle. We've abused the mother tongue in so many ways that a
book could be written on it, and probably already has been.
Thom in Buffalo
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Bearing Wash-out |
| From: | "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com> |
That sounds like a pressure releif valve problem. On most engines... The oil
pump pumps more oil than the engine can possibly use, and the extra volume of
oil is let out the pressure releif valve, and returned to the engine tank.
If that valve sticks, or the return is blocked, you oil pressure will go way high
and something will blow and you will lose all your oil [Shocked]
New bearings, etc should not even have much of effect on the pressure, because
if the releif valve is working properly it just returns more oil to the tank and
the pressure is keept it at a proper level. Even a blocked passage would
not normally result in a higher pressure because the extra oil is just returned
to the tank and normal pressure is maintained. A blocked passage is very bad,
but the symptom is usually not a high oil pressure. So I would look in other
areas before I would tear the engine apart looking for blocked passages.
I have never been into a VW engine, the Germans do some wild and crazy engineering
that is sometimes very "different", but this is what I have seen with other
engines....
Michael A. Bigelow
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| From: | WillUribe(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Flying to Mexico |
Hi Larry,
I have flow into Mexico and it's not bad at all. It may get a little
expensive.
Here is a link for a pilot flying into Mexico in a home built, interesting
reading.
_http://www.rvproject.com/2004_mexico_trip_log.html_
(http://www.rvproject.com/2004_mexico_trip_log.html)
Regards,
Will Uribe
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Bourne
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 10:00 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Flying to Mexico
Much as I enjoy fishing and whale watching in Mexico, I'm not sure I want
to try flying down there, but at least one long traveling FireStar does. Of
course, it may have been trailered, but.............?? Take a look in the
new Feb '06 EAA Sport Aviation magazine on page 52. It shows a blue and
yellow FireStar (I think) on the airport at Guayabitos, Mexico, near Puerto
Vallarta. Any idea who that might be ?? Lar.
Do
not Archive.
P.S. I've gone whale watching in Guerrero Negro, Baja California for the
last 6 years in a row at this time. I decided against it this year - been
there, done that - but feel a little at a loss, cause it IS a heck of a trip.
Take a look on my website under "Traveling." Lar.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
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| From: | "rlaird" <rlaird(at)cavediver.com> |
Ok, it's an old thread, and I'm sure many will wave it off as "been there, done
that", but, yesterday, I joined the 10K Club. Of course, with a 912ULS on my
MkIIIc, it's not too difficult. I maintained about 600fpm ascent rate, and I
started when I was at about 4000 ft, so it only took me 10 minutes to get up
there. As you can see from the picture, I was still climbing, too!
The field I was flying out of (7R9) is at 20' MSL, and after my flight I realized
I had my baro. press. set wrong, so I actually got to 10230 MSL or 10210 AGL.
The view of the Gulf of Mexico was spectacular! Air temp at 10K was about
20 degrees F.
-- Robert
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Robert Laird
MkIIIc/912ULS
Houston, TX
http://www.Texas-Flyer.com
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| From: | "rlaird" <rlaird(at)cavediver.com> |
The view out the front of the plane... the sliver of land on the left towards the
top is the southern end of Galveston Island and San Luis Pass. THe congested
area on the right is Freeport, TX.
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Robert Laird
MkIIIc/912ULS
Houston, TX
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| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)netzero.com> |
All right Ohio'n, speak-up now or for ever hold your piece! If you live in Ohio
or near the edge of Ohio in KY, IN, PA, W Va or Mich, please respond.
It appears that a bunch (verses a flock or gander) of the Kolbers meet every year
somewhere (besides the Kolb factory) and talk, drink beer, camp out and enjoy
each others company. I'd like to do likewise on a smaller scale, as in within
say 100-150 miles of central Ohio (as the Kolb flies). I would like to enjoy
that air jockey thing that the John's, Lar and others get to enjoy with some
frequency on a smaller budget and, because of work related projects, time allows
(picture weekends or overnight).
I know of a Kolb in Marion, mine in Sunbury, one in Marysville area, one in Fostoria,
one in E. Liverpool and thats about it. Are there anymore of you out there.
If they don't do this board, does someone know of their wearabouts and a
way to contact them. Your assistance would be greatly appreciated and I will keep
a (landing) light on for ya!
Humble Ralph, son of Ralph the mechanic, in central Ohio
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| From: | "boyd" <by0ung(at)brigham.net> |
| Subject: | re. Entusiastic group |
Snip
We are academic and student group from the Mechanical University in
Macedonia.
(Republic of Macedonia)
This project is done in close with aero club "SKOPJE".
The basic of the project is to expand the knowledge of construction and
building to the students and everybody interested in. We are under funded
and not able to bye all the necessary materials.
Snip
In the projects I have been aware of in the university level.. The
university has been able to get the information they needed directly from
the manufactures of the projects they were interested in.. I am sure part
of the procurement process includes statements or legal documents defining
the purpose and scope of the project and the assurance that the copyrighted
material will not be distributed beyond the group and all members of the
group have agreed in writing including non compete wording.. In my
opinion the asking of copyrighted information from end users is at least non
ethical . this type of information should be requested from the holder of
the copyrighted material , or the paten holder.
Boyd
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| Subject: | Re: Ohio Kolbers |
| From: | Todd Fredricks <flyingfox(at)copper.net> |
Athens Ohio but my Kolb is in the process of becoming in London right now.
Todd
On 2/5/06 4:02 PM, "Ralph Hoover" wrote:
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> All right Ohio'n, speak-up now or for ever hold your piece! If you live in
> Ohio or near the edge of Ohio in KY, IN, PA, W Va or Mich, please respond.
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> It appears that a bunch (verses a flock or gander) of the Kolbers meet every
> year somewhere (besides the Kolb factory) and talk, drink beer, camp out and
> enjoy each others company. I'd like to do likewise on a smaller scale, as in
> within say 100-150 miles of central Ohio (as the Kolb flies). I would like to
> enjoy that air jockey thing that the John's, Lar and others get to enjoy with
> some frequency on a smaller budget and, because of work related projects, time
> allows (picture weekends or overnight).
>
> I know of a Kolb in Marion, mine in Sunbury, one in Marysville area, one in
> Fostoria, one in E. Liverpool and thats about it. Are there anymore of you out
> there. If they don't do this board, does someone know of their wearabouts and
> a way to contact them. Your assistance would be greatly appreciated and I will
> keep a (landing) light on for ya!
>
> Humble Ralph, son of Ralph the mechanic, in central Ohio
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Todd Fredricks, DO
Flying Fox Services
Visit my Blog at www.flyingfoxhangar.blogspot.com
POWERED BY MAC
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| From: | "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier(at)cableone.net> |
Guys,
I previously asked if anyone has had problems with breaking rivets on the Wing
Attach Fittings. Well the nomenclature is wrong, it's the Wing Fold Tube.
(This is the tube under the horizontal stabilizer that the wing attaches to
when folded for transport.) I talked to Travis at New Kolb and he's never heard
of anyone having this problem. After we discussed it for awhile, Travis had
me call Brian Milbourn, which I did. Brian also has never heard of anyone having
this problem but after discussing a couple of solutions, it seems like we've
identified the problem. Whoever built this plane was real sloppy in sizing
the hole the Wing Fold Tube goes through. Brian says it is supposed to be
a tight fit. Mine is really sloppy and the tube moves around quite a bit. The
rivets are only in there to keep the tube in place, not to take the weight of
the wings. Since the hole in my Boom Tube is oversize and it is a sloppy fit,
then the rivets in my set up actually carry the weight of the wings, which
is why they break. This makes sense to me and the fix is to make a sleeve to
fit over the Wing Fold Tube that will "fill the hole," or take out the slop, and
rivet it in from the opposite side. I haven't done this yet but will keep
you informed as to how this turns out.
On another subject, I told Brian that someone on the list had asked what it
costs to have him build a Kolb. He said that he will build a Kolb Firestar from
a Quick Build Kit for $7,800 - this includes two-tone paint. He also ok'd
me publishing this information. This is the second time I've talked to Brian
about a problem and I really appreciate the fact that he is very willing to take
time and discuss things. He's a class guy, just like Travis and the rest
of the Kolb crew.
AzDave
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| From: | "Ralph" <ul15rhb(at)juno.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Wing Fold Tube |
Dave,
I have replaced those wing fold tube rivets at least 3 times in 19 years. They
have never broken, but they do loosen up. I trailer my kolb and set it up and
taken it down everytime I fly. It stores in the garage.
Ralph
Original Firestar
19 years flying it
-- "Dave & Eve Pelletier" wrote:
Guys,
I previously asked if anyone has had problems with breaking rivets on the Wing
Attach Fittings. Well the nomenclature is wrong, it's the Wing Fold Tube.
(This is the tube under the horizontal stabilizer that the wing attaches to
when folded for transport.) I talked to Travis at New Kolb and he's never heard
of anyone having this problem. After we discussed it for awhile, Travis had
me call Brian Milbourn, which I did. Brian also has never heard of anyone having
this problem but after discussing a couple of solutions, it seems like we've
identified the problem. Whoever built this plane was real sloppy in sizing
the hole the Wing Fold Tube goes through. Brian says it is supposed to be
a tight fit. Mine is really sloppy and the tube moves around quite a bit. The
rivets are only in there to keep the tube in place, not to take the weight of
the wings. Since the hole in my Boom Tube is oversize and it is a sloppy fit,
then the rivets in my set up actually carry the w!
eight of the wings, which is why they break. This makes sense to me and the fix
is to make a sleeve to fit over the Wing Fold Tube that will "fill the hole,"
or take out the slop, and rivet it in from the opposite side. I haven't done
this yet but will keep you informed as to how this turns out.
On another subject, I told Brian that someone on the list had asked what it
costs to have him build a Kolb. He said that he will build a Kolb Firestar from
a Quick Build Kit for $7,800 - this includes two-tone paint. He also ok'd
me publishing this information. This is the second time I've talked to Brian
about a problem and I really appreciate the fact that he is very willing to take
time and discuss things. He's a class guy, just like Travis and the rest
of the Kolb crew.
AzDave
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| From: | ray anderson <rsanoa(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Wing Fold Tube |
Ralph,
What engine do you have on your original Firestar?
do no archive
Ralph wrote:
Dave,
I have replaced those wing fold tube rivets at least 3 times in 19 years. They
have never broken, but they do loosen up. I trailer my kolb and set it up and
taken it down everytime I fly. It stores in the garage.
Ralph
Original Firestar
19 years flying it
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| From: | "Denny Rowe" <rowedl(at)highstream.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Ohio Kolbers |
Ralph,
Sounds like a great idea, as long as my work allows, count me in.
Denny Rowe,
Mk-3 Leechburg PA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)netzero.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 4:02 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Ohio Kolbers
>
> All right Ohio'n, speak-up now or for ever hold your piece! If you live in
> Ohio or near the edge of Ohio in KY, IN, PA, W Va or Mich, please respond.
>
>
> It appears that a bunch (verses a flock or gander) of the Kolbers meet
> every year somewhere (besides the Kolb factory) and talk, drink beer, camp
> out and enjoy each others company. I'd like to do likewise on a smaller
> scale, as in within say 100-150 miles of central Ohio (as the Kolb flies).
> I would like to enjoy that air jockey thing that the John's, Lar and
> others get to enjoy with some frequency on a smaller budget and, because
> of work related projects, time allows (picture weekends or overnight).
>
> I know of a Kolb in Marion, mine in Sunbury, one in Marysville area, one
> in Fostoria, one in E. Liverpool and thats about it. Are there anymore of
> you out there. If they don't do this board, does someone know of their
> wearabouts and a way to contact them. Your assistance would be greatly
> appreciated and I will keep a (landing) light on for ya!
>
> Humble Ralph, son of Ralph the mechanic, in central Ohio
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=10229#10229
>
>
> --
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| From: | "Ralph" <ul15rhb(at)juno.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Wing Fold Tube |
Ray, for 12 years I had the 377 and the last 7 a 447.
Ralph
-- ray anderson wrote:
Ralph,
What engine do you have on your original Firestar?
do no archive
Ralph wrote:
Dave,
I have replaced those wing fold tube rivets at least 3 times in 19 years. They
have never broken, but they do loosen up. I trailer my kolb and set it up and
taken it down everytime I fly. It stores in the garage.
Ralph
Original Firestar
19 years flying it
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| From: | "Rex Rodebush" <rrodebush(at)tema.net> |
Hi Guys,
I live in West Chester, Ohio (just north of Cincinnati). Presently
building a Mark III Xtra. I have all the airframe parts built & working
on the fuel system but I just got a beautiful 1969 BMW R60/2 so
that's taking some time also.
If anybody is in the area let me know. I have a hanger at the Hamilton
airport (HAO).
Rex Rodebush
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| From: | Gdledbetter(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Ohio Kolbers |
Ohio Kolbers,
You can add me to the list. I have a Firefly with 315 hours on
engine/airframe. My plane was built by Bryan Melbourn.
I had a hangar for several years at Waynesville but moved it a year ago to
Clearwater Air Park near Owensville, OH.
I actually live in Cincinnati.
Gene Ledbetter
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| Subject: | Re: Ohio Kolbers |
All right Ohio'n, speak-up now or for ever hold your piece! If you live in
> Ohio or near the edge of Ohio in KY, IN, PA, W Va or Mich,
please respond.
Columbiaville, MI. 20 miles NE of Flint.....2000 x 75 EW ........18
acres..plenty of camping room.......
Do not
archive
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| From: | "flht99reh" <flht99reh(at)netzero.net> |
Rex, you and your airfield are recorded. I believe we have the making of a
roundabout flight plan including many parts of PA and Ky. All possibly if
done right available with the "sporty (Harley slang for tiny) tank of about
1-1 1/2 hours of 2000 feet ASL on a calm day.
I'll contact all that reply off site in an e-mail. This has some great
potential!
Ralph of Ohio
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rex Rodebush
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 9:06 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Ohio Kolbers
Hi Guys,
I live in West Chester, Ohio (just north of Cincinnati). Presently
building a Mark III Xtra. I have all the airframe parts built & working
on the fuel system but I just got a beautiful 1969 BMW R60/2 so
that's taking some time also.
If anybody is in the area let me know. I have a hanger at the Hamilton
airport (HAO).
Rex Rodebush
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| From: | "flht99reh" <flht99reh(at)netzero.net> |
Gene, a pleasure to add you. If you know anyone else in our area that
perhaps doesn't respond on the Kolb pages here, let us know. We are in the
midst of creating our own Air Corp. Free flight jackets to the first 500 new
members! HA, HA!
Ohio Ralph
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Gdledbetter(at)aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Ohio Kolbers
Ohio Kolbers,
You can add me to the list. I have a Firefly with 315 hours on
engine/airframe. My plane was built by Bryan Melbourn.
I had a hangar for several years at Waynesville but moved it a year ago to
Clearwater Air Park near Owensville, OH.
I actually live in Cincinnati.
Gene Ledbetter
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| From: | "flht99reh" <flht99reh(at)netzero.net> |
Snuffy, you are "qualified and will be entered into our new grand prize
drawing for a flight jacket". Please send $ 500.00 to cover postage and
handling. HA, HA!
2000 x 75 is big enough for even me to land in! In this instance it's OK to
brag about size among men. HA, HA!
I'll send you an off site e-mail soon. We all are going to have some flying
to do this year! When I rode bikes it was all about the trip. Getting there
(where ever there was) only meant that the fun was half over. Under the
opportunity to meet others with similar interests, it can always mean that
the trip in just beginning.
Ohio Ralph
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of snuffy(at)usol.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Ohio Kolbers
All right Ohio'n, speak-up now or for ever hold your piece! If you live in
> Ohio or near the edge of Ohio in KY, IN, PA, W Va or Mich,
please respond.
Columbiaville, MI. 20 miles NE of Flint.....2000 x 75 EW ........18
acres..plenty of camping room.......
Do not
archive
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| From: | DAquaNut(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: 447 gear oil drain plug |
Group,
Can anyone tell me what size wrench fits the gear box drain plug . I need
to change the oil and the Firefly is thirty miles away and I need to make
sure I have a wrench to fit it as I tried with a cresent wrench and it started
to round it and there was not enough room for a socket. Seems the only way to
get off is with a box end wrench the correct size.
Thanks,
Ed Diebel
Houston, TX
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| From: | "David Kulp" <undoctor(at)rcn.com> |
| Subject: | Repairing damaged UltraStar wing |
Hello Kolb builders,
A couple of weeks ago I posted a general question about repairing a damaged wing
from a wind storm breaking a tiedown and flipping the plane on its side. I
appreciate the emails I got, but now that I can talk about it without crying,
I'd like some response from you pros who have built Kolbs to a specific question.
There are three points of damage, the trailing edge of the aileron between two
of the ribs, the device inside the wing where the bolt used to hold the folded
wing screws into is bent from the impact and the bolt is about 15 degrees off,
and the tube which forms the cross section shape of the inboard end of the wing
has a bend. My specific question is: from your experience and knowledge,
which is 100% more than mine, is it feasible to make a cut in the fabric just
large enough to make the repair and then glue and shrink a patch? Or will it
be necessary to uncover the entire wing, make the repairs and completely recover
it again?
I sure would appreciate any insight those who have experience with the covering
aspect of my US. I can take some pics and email them to you if ift would help
to make a more accurate recommendation.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Dave Kulp
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| From: | Richard Pike <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
| Subject: | Re: Repairing damaged UltraStar wing |
If the damage is fairly localized, it is almost always feasible to cut
off a small amount of fabric and do a localized repair. Depending on
what sort of finish was used, it can get a bit complicated, but getting
the new finish to adhere to the old is usually not that big a deal, at
worst you might not be totally satisfied with the cosmetics. If you know
what finish was used, that would help. If you don't know, then call Jim
or Dondi Miller and ask them for advice, I could give you my opinion,
but why not ask a professional? The only real question is if it will be
easy, or a bit of a nuisance.
Several years ago, I had a situation where the fabric shrinking on my
J-6 caused the lightweight built-up wood ribs to buckle just ahead of
the trailing edge. Upon the advice of an A&P, I cut off the trailing
edge fabric within about 6" of the trailing edge, cut a bit of the rib
stitching loose along the aft part of the rib, and lifted a couple
inches of the fabric forward along the ribs, top and bottom. Repaired
and reinforced the ribs, and then pulled the fabric back down,
overlapped new fabric over the old, and bonded the finishes together.
Since I was using Randolph, they bonded very well. Reattached and shrunk
the repair and with a couple extra coats of silver, and lots of
sanding, it was almost un noticeable. That was twenty years ago, and it
is still holding up.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
David Kulp wrote:
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> Hello Kolb builders,
>
> A couple of weeks ago I posted a general question about repairing a damaged wing
from a wind storm breaking a tiedown and flipping the plane on its side.
I appreciate the emails I got, but now that I can talk about it without crying,
I'd like some response from you pros who have built Kolbs to a specific question.
>
> There are three points of damage, the trailing edge of the aileron between two
of the ribs, the device inside the wing where the bolt used to hold the folded
wing screws into is bent from the impact and the bolt is about 15 degrees off,
and the tube which forms the cross section shape of the inboard end of the
wing has a bend. My specific question is: from your experience and knowledge,
which is 100% more than mine, is it feasible to make a cut in the fabric just
large enough to make the repair and then glue and shrink a patch? Or will it
be necessary to uncover the entire wing, make the repairs and completely recover
it again?
>
> I sure would appreciate any insight those who have experience with the covering
aspect of my US. I can take some pics and email them to you if ift would help
to make a more accurate recommendation.
>
> Thanks in advance for your help.
>
> Dave Kulp
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| From: | "Dave G." <occom(at)ns.sympatico.ca> |
| Subject: | Re: Entusiastic group |
Have lived with the split between the Queens english and "Murican" all my
life. The first thing that struck me about the posting was how did you end
up named after Lord Voldemort?
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| From: | robert bean <slyck(at)frontiernet.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Repairing damaged UltraStar wing |
Brother Pike has good info. It all comes down to cosmetics, ambition,
and $$$$.
If the existing cover is in good shape and you want to fly instead of
polish...
(that's making shiny, brother Swiderski) patching is nearly always
feasible.
If the existing paint is ultra thick then you may want to do some
stripping in the
overlap area before you cut the fabric. Otherwise some sandpaper to
rough up the
glue area will suffice. Since the ends are not overlapping you will
need at least
3 inch tape or cut a wider strip from a piece of dacron.
I did my new left wing cover using only 2" tape. Since there is an
overlap of the
basic cover the 3" stuff isn't required. -hey, we are still subsonic!
Happy sniffing, BB
On 7, Feb 2006, at 11:21 AM, David Kulp wrote:
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> Hello Kolb builders,
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> Dave Kulp
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| From: | "pat ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Macrem'e 101 , 5 easy steps |
Well ? Did anybody "try it"....
You just gotta be kiddin...twist this one, stick it in my finger..., mop up
the blood....., get the pliers..., get the band aid...,
aw hell . Go to the shop and buy a strap.
Cheers
Pat :-)
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| From: | "Denny Rowe" <rowedl(at)highstream.net> |
| Subject: | Fw: Kolb Manuals |
Kolbers,
I just received this request below, I do not have a flight manual as the FAA only
asks that we placard instruments and controls.
Has anyone here done a flight manual that these folks could adapt to their engine
and airframe?
Denny Rowe, Mk-3, PA
----- Original Message -----
From: Tony & Wings Malins
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 2:23 AM
Subject: Kolb Manuals
Hi
I=92ve just finished building a Kolb M3X in Thailand and the civil aviation authorities
there want a flight & maintenance manual for the aircraft prior to registration.
Kolb don=92t give any assistance in this matter and I wonder whether anyone else
can help with info for such manuals?
Many thanks
Tony Malins
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| Subject: | Re: VG Installation |
| From: | "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com> |
Richard Pike wrote:
> No. Nobody has found the best placement for VG's on a MKIII wing, and
> nobody ever will. VG's on Kolb's are like Seafoam, 2 strokes vs. 4
> strokes, and when Vamoose will finally fly. Such topics are endlessly
> discussed and argued over, but nothing is ever resolved.
Hola Diego !!! Hace tiempo que no eschucho nada de ti....
I can not disagree with Richard more on this. There is most definately a best
place to put VG's. The placement and angle of the VG's is critical to get the
maximum benefit from them while not inducing to much darg. The big question
is, has anyone done the testing needed to find out the optimum placement of VG's
for the MK-III, and that I dont know.
I plan on using the same VG's on my MK-III , so be sure you post your results.
Baring someone having done testing with them on the MK-III, I would put them
on as per the instructions provided with them. Wherever you end up putting them,
make sure you get the placement and angles very close, otherwise you might
end up with VG's that do not work as well as they should.
Michael A. Bigelow
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NO FEAR - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!!
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| From: | "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com> |
Very cool Richard :) How was it climbing at 10,000 ? What is the highest you
guys have heard of a Kolb going ?
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In a message dated 2/7/2006 5:30:48 PM Eastern Standard Time,
orcabonita(at)hotmail.com writes:
Very cool Richard :) How was it climbing at 10,000 ? What is the highest
you guys have heard of a Kolb going ?
I think John Jung took his Firestar to over 17,000 ft msl. Makes me shiver
when I think about it.
Howard Shackleford
FS II
SC
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| Subject: | Re: Flying to Mexico |
| From: | "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com> |
WillUribe(at)aol.com wrote:
> Hi Larry,
> I have flow into Mexico and it's not bad at all. It may get a little
> expensive.
> Will Uribe
>
>
That sounds like a lot of fun Will, why is it expensive, landing fees, gas etc
??? I would be interested in hearing about your trip.
Michael A. Bigelow
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NO FEAR - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!!
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| From: | Richard Pike <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
| Subject: | Re: VG Installation |
I forgot that tongue-in-cheek humor is not always recognized. My
apologies. Perhaps I should have said something more like the following -
I spent a lot of time and effort moving VG's around on my MKIII, and
eventually settled on what I felt was optimum. I spent a lot more time
moving the VG's around on the Firestar II to come up with what seemed
optimum. And have expressed said opinions on numerous occasions.
Probably way too numerous.
Notwithstanding, since this is a list, and since builders of
experimental airplanes tend to experiment, we have on this list a large
number of other worthies who have placed their VG's (of different sizes
and shapes) at different places, different angles, and anything else you
can think of, and all of them will vigorously defend that theirs is the
best placement. Which is why my original post (the part that got snipped
out) offered four different places to put the VG's - because in my
experience, on both the MKIII and the FSII, those placements actually
worked pretty good. And if I had quit experimenting at that point, I
would probably have thought them to be optimum.
Having said that, I have a Kolb-owning friend who is also on this list,
he lives about ten miles from here, and on his almost identical FSII,
the optimum placement for VG's is a bit different from ours, what was
optimum for him was not optimum for us, and vice versa.
Consequently (pay close attention here) when you get around to actually
putting VG's on your MKIII, whatever your optimum placement is will
probably be different from mine, and probably from everybody else's on
this list because they are Experimental airplanes, no two are exactly
alike, they all are slightly different. Different equations give
different results.
To further answer your question, many people have done extensive
testing, and have found optimum placements - on their airplanes. Which
are not exactly the same as on my airplane. And will probably not be the
same as on your airplane. So you too will have to do extensive testing
to find optimum placement - on your airplane.
As far as ending up with VG's that do not work as well as they should -
the Kolb already flies great. You add VG's any where within the accepted
parameters, it flies even better.
Moral of the story: it is great to ice the cake, it makes the cake
better, but if the icing is not perfect, so what? It's still better.
Just be careful you don't end up inducing too much darg. Actually, I no
longer have a darg, I used to have one but she died of old age. However,
I still remember that she really hated being induced....
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
JetPilot wrote:
>
>
> Richard Pike wrote:
>
>> No. Nobody has found the best placement for VG's on a MKIII wing, and
>> nobody ever will. VG's on Kolb's are like Seafoam, 2 strokes vs. 4
>> strokes, and when Vamoose will finally fly. Such topics are endlessly
>> discussed and argued over, but nothing is ever resolved.
>>
>
>
> Hola Diego !!! Hace tiempo que no eschucho nada de ti....
>
> I can not disagree with Richard more on this. There is most definately a best
place to put VG's. The placement and angle of the VG's is critical to get the
maximum benefit from them while not inducing to much darg. The big question
is, has anyone done the testing needed to find out the optimum placement of
VG's for the MK-III, and that I dont know.
>
> I plan on using the same VG's on my MK-III , so be sure you post your results.
Baring someone having done testing with them on the MK-III, I would put them
on as per the instructions provided with them. Wherever you end up putting
them, make sure you get the placement and angles very close, otherwise you might
end up with VG's that do not work as well as they should.
>
> Michael A. Bigelow
>
> --------
> NO FEAR - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!!
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=10692#10692
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| From: | "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart(at)onlyinternet.net> |
| Subject: | Re: VG Installation |
>I can not disagree with Richard more on this. There is most definately a best
place to put VG's. The placement and angle of the VG's is critical to get the
maximum benefit from them while not inducing to much darg. The big question
is, has anyone done the testing needed to find out the optimum placement of VG's
for the MK-III, and that I dont know.
>
The archives are full of info on where people have located vg's. Do a
survey, take an average and use this as your initial guess. For the
nonbeliever, the only solution is get busy and mount vg's and move them
around until they have what they consider to be the best solution for them.
Have at it and let us know what you find.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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| From: | "Ed Chmielewski" <edchmiel(at)mindspring.com> |
| Subject: | Re: VG Installation |
Hi Mike,
While he may be too modest to point it out, the good Rev. Pike is
one of the most experienced Kolbers out there, and his experiences with VG's
on various Kolbs bear out many of my own. In my case, I fly a varied group
of GA singles and twins with at least 3 different makes of VG's on them.
They vary in size and placement, number and angle, but they seem to be one
of those 'close is enough' devices. A quarter-inch doesn't make any
difference, as does one or two falling off. When you get some real-world
experience, let us know how they work out.
Ed in JXN
MkII/503
----- Original Message -----
From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 5:20 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: VG Installation
>
>
> Richard Pike wrote:
>> No. Nobody has found the best placement for VG's on a MKIII wing, and
>> nobody ever will. VG's on Kolb's are like Seafoam, 2 strokes vs. 4
>> strokes, and when Vamoose will finally fly. Such topics are endlessly
>> discussed and argued over, but nothing is ever resolved.
>
>
> Hola Diego !!! Hace tiempo que no eschucho nada de ti....
>
> I can not disagree with Richard more on this. There is most definately a
> best place to put VG's.
(Snip)
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=10692#10692
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| From: | WhiskeyVictor36(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: VG Installation |
In a message dated 2/7/2006 7:18:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
richard(at)bcchapel.org writes:
I forgot that tongue-in-cheek humor is not always recognized. My
apologies. Perhaps I should have said something more like the following -
You guys are causing me to laugh. If nothing else, its good medicine for
cabin fever.
Bill Varnes
Original Kolb FireStar
Audubon NJ
Do Not Archive
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| From: | "mike moulai" <kiwimick(at)sfmicro.fsnet.co.uk> |
| Subject: | Re: VG Installation |
All I agree with jetpilot, there is a definate correct position, We have got
UK approval for these on the XTRA and have them fitted to a 582 powered one
and several JAb powered ones and the are fitted in the same place, the posn
is determined by the wing section itself.
I have posted all this in the past.
If we have got UK approval for them rest assured they are in the correct
place for the Mk III wing, nothing ever gets through this system without
full testing, (infact 25hrs flight testing, along with anaylsis and two
confirmation flights, one with the CAA chief test pilotand one with the PFA
chief engineer).
Kind REgards
Mike Moulai
G-CDFA
Xtra/Jab
121 hrs now
----- Original Message -----
From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 10:20 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: VG Installation
>
>
> Richard Pike wrote:
>> No. Nobody has found the best placement for VG's on a MKIII wing, and
>> nobody ever will. VG's on Kolb's are like Seafoam, 2 strokes vs. 4
>> strokes, and when Vamoose will finally fly. Such topics are endlessly
>> discussed and argued over, but nothing is ever resolved.
>
>
> Hola Diego !!! Hace tiempo que no eschucho nada de ti....
>
> I can not disagree with Richard more on this. There is most definately a
> best place to put VG's. The placement and angle of the VG's is critical
> to get the maximum benefit from them while not inducing to much darg. The
> big question is, has anyone done the testing needed to find out the
> optimum placement of VG's for the MK-III, and that I dont know.
>
> I plan on using the same VG's on my MK-III , so be sure you post your
> results. Baring someone having done testing with them on the MK-III, I
> would put them on as per the instructions provided with them. Wherever
> you end up putting them, make sure you get the placement and angles very
> close, otherwise you might end up with VG's that do not work as well as
> they should.
>
> Michael A. Bigelow
>
> --------
> NO FEAR - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have
> !!!
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=10692#10692
>
>
>
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| From: | "Beauford" <beauford(at)tampabay.rr.com> |
Kolbers:
reach his final resting place in Arlington National Cemetary.
Skip was a fellow Kolber (UltraStar), an original member of this List, and a career
Fighter Pilot, highly decorated for valor in the Viet Nam war. His
interment will be with full military honors.
Please consider his service to his country, as well as his passing, as we
reach that hour this afternoon.
Well done, Skipper...
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| From: | Richard Pike <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
| Subject: | Re: VG Installation |
So even though we extensively tested our Kolbs, and the FSII's flight
performance during the 40 hour test period was excellent, we would still
have to wait for a Fed to come and fly it? And then wait for another Fed
to come and fly it? Last week, the FSII clicked over it's first 100
hours, took right at a year. Perhaps your system works quicker, but if
we had had to wait for the Feds to come and fly it, we'd be lucky to
have flown it at all. When I added VG's to my MKIII, I had to advise the
FAA of a major mod in the flying characteristics and then refly a test
period, which is required by the regs.
I think what we have here is a difference in perceptions. In the US, our
perception is to keep the FAA/Feds at arms length. In your situation, it
appears necessary to embrace them. I'm sure your system is better
documented, but I think I prefer our system.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
mike moulai wrote:
>
> All I agree with jetpilot, there is a definate correct position, We have got
> UK approval for these on the XTRA and have them fitted to a 582 powered one
> and several JAb powered ones and the are fitted in the same place, the posn
> is determined by the wing section itself.
> I have posted all this in the past.
> If we have got UK approval for them rest assured they are in the correct
> place for the Mk III wing, nothing ever gets through this system without
> full testing, (infact 25hrs flight testing, along with anaylsis and two
> confirmation flights, one with the CAA chief test pilotand one with the PFA
> chief engineer).
>
>
> Kind REgards
> Mike Moulai
> G-CDFA
> Xtra/Jab
> 121 hrs now
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com>
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 10:20 PM
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: VG Installation
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> Richard Pike wrote:
>>
>>> No. Nobody has found the best placement for VG's on a MKIII wing, and
>>> nobody ever will. VG's on Kolb's are like Seafoam, 2 strokes vs. 4
>>> strokes, and when Vamoose will finally fly. Such topics are endlessly
>>> discussed and argued over, but nothing is ever resolved.
>>>
>> Hola Diego !!! Hace tiempo que no eschucho nada de ti....
>>
>> I can not disagree with Richard more on this. There is most definately a
>> best place to put VG's. The placement and angle of the VG's is critical
>> to get the maximum benefit from them while not inducing to much darg. The
>> big question is, has anyone done the testing needed to find out the
>> optimum placement of VG's for the MK-III, and that I dont know.
>>
>> I plan on using the same VG's on my MK-III , so be sure you post your
>> results. Baring someone having done testing with them on the MK-III, I
>> would put them on as per the instructions provided with them. Wherever
>> you end up putting them, make sure you get the placement and angles very
>> close, otherwise you might end up with VG's that do not work as well as
>> they should.
>>
>> Michael A. Bigelow
>>
>> --------
>> NO FEAR - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have
>> !!!
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>> Read this topic online here:
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| From: | "Jeremy Casey" <n79rt(at)kilocharlie.us> |
| Subject: | Re: VG Installation |
All I agree with jetpilot, there is a definate correct position, We have
got
UK approval for these on the XTRA and have them fitted to a 582 powered
one
and several JAb powered ones and the are fitted in the same place, the
posn
is determined by the wing section itself.
I have posted all this in the past.
If we have got UK approval for them rest assured they are in the correct
place for the Mk III wing, nothing ever gets through this system without
full testing, (infact 25hrs flight testing, along with anaylsis and two
confirmation flights, one with the CAA chief test pilotand one with the
PFA
chief engineer).
Kind REgards
Mike Moulai
G-CDFA
Xtra/Jab
121 hrs now
OK...let me rephrase this discussion just a little...this is kind of
like a story I heard once about the young aeronautical engineer that got
his first really big assignment after getting his first "real"
job...they were designing what became the F-102 Delta Dart as I recall
and the young AE was told "optimize" the wing...this young fellow worked
for weeks and weeks and tried multiple airfoil sections and just worked
the wind tunnel guys to death. His boss finally got wind of his
exploits and started checking up on him. When he asked the young AE
what all the fuss was about he explained all the testing he had been
doing and the results he had gotten so far and smiled proudly. The boss
had a piece of plywood cut to the same dimensions as the test wing they
had been flying in the wind tunnel and after flying it too, they found
that it performed within a couple of percentage points in all
respects...
Lets all remember...VG's are only there to energize the boundary layer
thus preventing separation. As long as the VG's are in front of the
point of separation then they will do their job. You can tweak them a
little forward or whatever but they do the same thing. The exact angle
of cant to them and the exact spacing isn't "critical" (and I put that
in quotes to mean within reason...if you get one at 13 degrees instead
of 15 it certainly isn't worth peeling off glue and trying to reset
it...)
The STC'd VG sets that have limits on how many can be broke off before
you must ground the plane (3 on a wing per the Cessna 152 STC...) is
just horse hockey legal liability lawyer talk...bottom line is they
demonstrated to the FAA that that many missing didn't adversely affect
anything (at least measurably...refer to previous story for a definition
of "measurably" ;-) a fourth one missing won't make the plane due snap
rolls at stall...
Remember these planes built by mere mortals are NEVER going to be
identical...having a little more/less tension on the fabric when gluing
the edges or a iron calibrated a little differently can vary the amount
of fabric sag between the ribs which WILL change the airfoil
section...which would change the "OPTIMUM" position of the VG's...right?
Enough...I'm boring myself now...
Jeremy Casey
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: VG Installation |
| All, The Landshorter VG's we have extensively tested and gained
approval
| for on our Xtra in the UK are spaced at 3" and at 10% of wing chord,
this is
| 225 millimeters back measured from the front apex of the L/E up over
the
| camber. Hope this helps.
|
| Mike
| Xtra/Jab2200
Kiwi Mick:
Was curious how the individual VG placement works out with the rib and
false rib spacing of the wing?
Fabric is naturally pulled down somewhat between the ribs when heat
shrunk. How does VG placement work with these valleys if we use 3"
seperation?
Homer Kolb says these valleys play an important role in the
performance of his wing. Do the VGs interfere with these valleys and
their performance, or does the 225mm place the VGs aft of the valleys.
I'm simply curious. Have no immediate intentions to place VGs on my
wings. Surprisingly enough, I continue to be pleased the way my
airplane has been flying all these years. Haven't found a need to
change/improve their performance, yet.
Take care,
john h
MKIII-2,445.9 hours
912S-1,100.0 hours
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| From: | David Lehman <david(at)davidlehman.net> |
| Subject: | Plug/Plugged Nickel... |
Copied this from "Word Detective"...
"Not worth a plugged nickel" as an Americanism meaning "worthless" first
appeared in print about 1912, although we can assume "plugged nickel", along
with the similar "plugged quarter" and "plugged peso," were in common usage
long before they made it into print. To "plug" a coin means to remove its
center, usually because the coin is made of a precious metal such as gold or
silver, and to replace the missing part with a cheaper metal "plug." This
sort of larcenous messing with currency has been popular since coins first
appeared millennia ago, and Americans were plugging French, English and
other nations' coins back in the days before we had our own to plug. A
plugged nickel, while it may be accepted at face value by an inattentive
shopkeeper, is, of course, fundamentally worthless.
Incidentally, although we think of the nickel as the quintessential American
five-cent piece, in 1857 the coin known as "the nickel" was made of copper
and nickel and worth only one cent. A three cent all-nickel "nickel"
appeared in 1865, but the nickel we know today (again actually a
copper-nickel alloy) wasn't issued until 1875."...
DVD
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| Subject: | Re: VG Installation |
| From: | "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com> |
Richard Pike wrote:
>
> I spent a lot of time and effort moving VG's around on my MKIII, and
> eventually settled on what I felt was optimum.
>
That is exactly the type of information I am looking for :) . Since Diego and
I are both putting VG's on our MK-III's, can you post what position and angle
worked best for you. Did you make your own, or did you use the landshorter.com
VG's ?
I understand that every plane turns out a bit different depending on who builds
it, but I think the optimum placement for one MK-III would work well for most
MK-III's (assuming the same design of VG..) Different designs of VG's could
result in different placements... Different models of Kolbs could also be different.
Thanks,
Michael A. Bigelow
--------
NO FEAR - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!!
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=10867#10867
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| From: | "Jeremy Casey" <n79rt(at)kilocharlie.us> |
| Subject: | Plug/Plugged Nickel... (OFF TOPIC) |
Another derivative came along with the advent of coin-operated vending
machines...referred to as the "slug". People realized that the proper
sized metal hole punch (used in steel fab shops) could generate a round
metal disk of the proper size to imitate a quarter...a handful of
appropriate sized "slugs" could feed a hungry guy for a week (assuming
the fingerprints were wiped off ;-)
Have found many of them restocking machines at the store I worked at in
high school...
Jeremy
-----Original Message-----
From: David Lehman [mailto:david(at)davidlehman.net]
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 10:53 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Plug/Plugged Nickel...
Copied this from "Word Detective"...
"Not worth a plugged nickel" as an Americanism meaning "worthless" first
appeared in print about 1912, although we can assume "plugged nickel",
along
with the similar "plugged quarter" and "plugged peso," were in common
usage
long before they made it into print. To "plug" a coin means to remove
its
center, usually because the coin is made of a precious metal such as
gold or
silver, and to replace the missing part with a cheaper metal "plug."
This
sort of larcenous messing with currency has been popular since coins
first
appeared millennia ago, and Americans were plugging French, English and
other nations' coins back in the days before we had our own to plug. A
plugged nickel, while it may be accepted at face value by an inattentive
shopkeeper, is, of course, fundamentally worthless.
Incidentally, although we think of the nickel as the quintessential
American
five-cent piece, in 1857 the coin known as "the nickel" was made of
copper
and nickel and worth only one cent. A three cent all-nickel "nickel"
appeared in 1865, but the nickel we know today (again actually a
copper-nickel alloy) wasn't issued until 1875."...
DVD
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| From: | "mike moulai" <kiwimick(at)sfmicro.fsnet.co.uk> |
| Subject: | Re: VG Installation |
John/All,
I would agree that you guys have a much easier/workable system in the USA,
however we have to bow and scrape and comply with some very strange rules.
We were not trying to re-design Homers wonderful aircraft, we simply had to
make it comply with UK regs with the use of VG's.
The Landshorter type and the 3" pitch falles right in the valleys between
the ribs, but they are well back and not in the deepest portion of the
valley.
I was most happy with the standard aircraft however my choice of fitting
VG's to overcome our issue of stall speed was based upon my engineering
background, test pilot, airworthiness inspector, flight instructor and
approx 7000hrs of flight experience(of which probably only about 450hrs are
are in Kolbs).
I am not saying my setup is better than all others, I was just answering a
question from a fellow Kolber with all the information and data we have
gathered over the last 18 months of flying and testing VG's.
Maybe the air is different over here or something......
Mike
Xtra/Jab 2200
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: VG Installation
>
> | All, The Landshorter VG's we have extensively tested and gained
> approval
> | for on our Xtra in the UK are spaced at 3" and at 10% of wing chord,
> this is
> | 225 millimeters back measured from the front apex of the L/E up over
> the
> | camber. Hope this helps.
> |
> | Mike
> | Xtra/Jab2200
>
>
> Kiwi Mick:
>
> Was curious how the individual VG placement works out with the rib and
> false rib spacing of the wing?
>
> Fabric is naturally pulled down somewhat between the ribs when heat
> shrunk. How does VG placement work with these valleys if we use 3"
> seperation?
>
> Homer Kolb says these valleys play an important role in the
> performance of his wing. Do the VGs interfere with these valleys and
> their performance, or does the 225mm place the VGs aft of the valleys.
>
> I'm simply curious. Have no immediate intentions to place VGs on my
> wings. Surprisingly enough, I continue to be pleased the way my
> airplane has been flying all these years. Haven't found a need to
> change/improve their performance, yet.
>
> Take care,
>
> john h
> MKIII-2,445.9 hours
> 912S-1,100.0 hours
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: VG Installation |
| From: | "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com> |
I would like to install my VG's only once, and permanently and, Diego has also
stated that is what he wants to do. So the burning question on everyones mind
is where can we see the results of Richard Pikes test, and the magical placements
of the VG's ??? Does he have a webpage or is it buried in the archives somewhere
? Any help finding this would be appreciated.
I feel for you kiwimick, that just sucks beyond beleif that government and the
control freaks have gotten so out of control that you cannot install VG's on your
Kolb... It is my beleif that Kolb designed a great airplane, but technology
advances, and the design should continue to advance along with everything
else. If the Kolbs had not advanced beyond the origional model, most of us
be flying something else, the design of the Kolbs must evolve or it will eventually
die.
Michael A. Bigelow
--------
NO FEAR - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!!
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=10911#10911
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| From: | Richard Pike <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
| Subject: | Re: VG Installation |
Back on January 14th of this year, in response to some questions you
asked about vortex generators, I gave you an answer and posted therein
a link to my web page showing the VG's on the MKIII and also on the FSII.
I have since posted on January 24th another link to the web page
following a query about VG's for the FSII.
These posts are in the archives.
Also, if you go to Google, and simply type in "Kolb MKIII" -
it is my web page that pops up at the top of the list.
I guess you must have missed it... :-\
But anyway, here it is again. Enjoy.
http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/kolb.htm
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
JetPilot wrote:
>
> I would like to install my VG's only once, and permanently and, Diego has also
stated that is what he wants to do. So the burning question on everyones mind
is where can we see the results of Richard Pikes test, and the magical placements
of the VG's ??? Does he have a webpage or is it buried in the archives
somewhere ? Any help finding this would be appreciated.
>
> I feel for you kiwimick, that just sucks beyond beleif that government and the
control freaks have gotten so out of control that you cannot install VG's on
your Kolb... It is my beleif that Kolb designed a great airplane, but technology
advances, and the design should continue to advance along with everything
else. If the Kolbs had not advanced beyond the origional model, most of us
be flying something else, the design of the Kolbs must evolve or it will eventually
die.
>
> Michael A. Bigelow
>
> --------
> NO FEAR - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!!
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=10911#10911
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| From: | possums <possums(at)mindspring.com> |
I would assume if you are going to use the "Landshorter" VG's that
you would naturally follow their instructions on where to put
them, as they seem to have already done the wind tunnel
tests and are selling them to the ultralight community knowing
the type of planes we are putting them on.
Mine are at the suggested 10% to 12% (of the cord of the
wing - including the ailerons) back from the leading
edge + about 6.5 inches as measured thru the cord.
I guess we could do our own wind tunnel test- anybody got
a spare one their not using this weekend?
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| Subject: | Re: VG Installation |
| From: | "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com> |
Thanks a lot Richard, I remember that page now. I got so involved at looking
at all the other stuff you had done, I forgot about the VG's :D Really nice
workmanship in all the pictures I see on your site. I really like how you painted
everything blue with no scratches, etc, makes it look like a new plane.
Michael A. Bigelow
--------
NO FEAR - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!!
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=10917#10917
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| From: | possums <possums(at)mindspring.com> |
| Subject: | Re: VG Installation |
At 06:06 PM 2/8/2006, you wrote:
>
>
>I would assume if you are going to use the "Landshorter" VG's that
>you would naturally follow their instructions on where to put
>them, as they seem to have already done the wind tunnel
>tests and are selling them to the ultralight community knowing
>the type of planes we are putting them on.
>Mine are at the suggested 10% to 12% (of the cord of the
>wing - including the ailerons) back from the leading
>edge + about 6.5 inches as measured thru the cord.
Should read:
>back from the leading
>edge = about 6.5 inches as measured thru the cord.
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: VG Installation/Evolvement of Kolb Design |
If the Kolbs had not advanced beyond the origional model, most of us
be flying something else, the design of the Kolbs must evolve or it
will eventually die.
|
| Michael A. Bigelow
Hi Mike:
The wing shape and dimensions of the Kolb have not changed since the
Ultrastar, 1984 or there abouts.
I don't know about the SS and FF. Somebody who does, help me out.
Not really sure about those two. It is Homer Kolb's airfoil and hard
to beat for the job intended.
The Kolbs have gotten bigger, wider, narrower, longer and shorter,
heavieer, beefed up somewhat, but basically the same old Kolb.
john h
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| Subject: | Re: VG Installation/Evolvement of Kolb Design |
| From: | "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com> |
Hi John,
I dont really know that much about the history of Kolbs, but they all look like
they would be fun to fly. The first one I saw in a picture was a really light
plane, with a tiny engine, long legs, but with the strong tube spar wing, and
tube to the tail that we see on all Kolbs. :D
The evoloution I am referring to is the differnt models that are now available
and the improvements that have been made in each one. The firestar now the firestar
II, the MKII now the stronger MKIII, and now the MKIII Xtra. They have
done an excellent job of steadily improving things over the years without ruining
the design and have managed to stay way ahead of the competition.
Michael A. Bigelow
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| Subject: | Re: VG Installation/Evolvement of Kolb Design |
| From: | "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com> |
BTW John, there was a thread about 10,000 feet in a Kolb. I was wondering how
high you have been with your 912 S. Did the engine start to lose much power,
how was its performance way up there. Now that I am about to start flying a
912S im really curious how that engine does at high altitudes.
Michael A. Bigelow
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| From: | "Jeremy Casey" <n79rt(at)kilocharlie.us> |
| Subject: | Re: VG Installation/Evolvement of Kolb Design |
Hi Mike:
The wing shape and dimensions of the Kolb have not changed since the
Ultrastar, 1984 or there abouts.
I don't know about the SS and FF. Somebody who does, help me out.
Not really sure about those two. It is Homer Kolb's airfoil and hard
to beat for the job intended.
The Kolbs have gotten bigger, wider, narrower, longer and shorter,
heavieer, beefed up somewhat, but basically the same old Kolb.
john h
Correct Mr. Hauck! EXACT same airfoil on everyone of them...matter of
fact other than the different size hole in the spar mounting plates,
they are the exact same ribs... rib spacing changes from model to model,
but the shape of the rib and the distance from leading edge spar to
trailing edge spar is the same.
For what it's worth, common airfoils are certainly not new...Aside from
the 208 Caravan, the 177 Cardinal, and the 210 every Cessna ever built
used the NACA 2412
airfoil...140,150,170,172,180,185,205,206,L-19,Skymasher... the list
keeps going...
Jeremy
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| From: | "Jeremy Casey" <n79rt(at)kilocharlie.us> |
| Subject: | Re: VG Installation/Evolvement of Kolb Design |
every Cessna ever built
used the NACA 2412
airfoil...140,150,170,172,180,185,205,206,L-19,Skymasher... the list
keeps going...
Jeremy
Correcting myself...exclude the jets...there different critters
altogether.
Jeremy
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | High Altitude Flying With The 912ULS |
|I was wondering how high you have been with your 912 S. Did the
engine start to lose much power, how was its performance way up there.
Now that I am about to start flying a 912S im really curious how that
engine does at high altitudes.
|
| Michael A. Bigelow
Hi Mike:
I have been high enough to cross the Rockies anywhere from south to
north, including the Brooks Range in Alaska. Normally, 14,500 to
15,000 feet gives one a comfortable margin. The engine loses some
power, which is normal for a normally aspirated engine. However, it
still performed well, with the MKIII at aprx'ly 1,200 lbs on take off.
Normal procedure to cross the mountains is take off at full throttle
and leave it there until it is time to pull it back for the decent on
the other side. The 912ULS performs well enough to satisfy my flying
requirements.
Take care,
john h
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| Subject: | Re: VG Installation/Evolvement of Kolb Design |
| From: | Herb Gayheart <herbgh(at)juno.com> |
John
"Homer Kolb says these valleys play an important role in the
performance of his wing. "
I wonder what Homer meant ? I have never seen an analysis of the
Kolb airfoil. Modified Clark Y is all that I see.
Reason that I ask; I am toying with the idea of using .016 aluminum
and foam false ribs back to the main spar(d cell) when I build the new
set of single lift strut wings for my Firefly. I intend to keep the
current set of wings intact just in case. :-)
Has anyone ever done an analysis of this airfoil? I think the
US,Firelfy and Firestar all have the same airfoil? I notice that max
chord is around 24 to 25 %.
The modified airfoil on my N3 pup has its max thickness at 30% or so..
Modified Gottingen 387 I think it is called?
Herb
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| From: | WhiskeyVictor36(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: VG Installation |
In a message dated 2/8/2006 5:59:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
richard(at)bcchapel.org writes:
Also, if you go to Google, and simply type in "Kolb MKIII" -
it is my web page that pops up at the top of the list.
I guess you must have missed it... :-\
But anyway, here it is again. Enjoy.
http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/kolb.htm
Richard,
Just visited your web page. Great job. Good pictures and excellent
explanations. I for one thank you for posting all that FREE information. Now
I
think I might give those VG's a try.
Bill Varnes
Original Kolb FireStar
Audubon NJ
Do Not Archive
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| From: | DAquaNut(at)AOL.COM |
| Subject: | Re: Evening flight |
Group,
I am having so much fun with my Firefly I cant stand it any longer. I
had Miss Bliss up for 2 hours this evening. The wind was knocking me around
pretty good on takeoff and low passes, so I took her up to 3000 ft and it was
smooth and a good bit cooler but I was dressed for it. Tried out a little
venturi I made to get the airspeed to read higher, but it worked too well and
I
will have to work on an adjustment for it. Made 2 landings and bounced it a
bit, but I had it at about 3500 RPMS as was suggested by list members.
Everything is still straight. Those aluminum axles are tougher than I was led
to
believe. I already made up 3 pair of 4130 axles and had them heat treated,
just in case. I flew for 2 hours and burned 3 gallons. Course I was only
playing around. That Firefly climbs about twice as fast as the Wizard I used to
have. I now have 4 hours on it and I'm still a grinnin !!!!
Ed Diebel
Hou. TX ( Firefly--- More fun flyin than
building)
Do Not Archieve
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| From: | "R. Hankins" <rphanks(at)grantspass.com> |
The 503 on a light KXP will get you up to controlled airspace. It helps if you
catch a wave over the Cascade mountains.
I've been above 12,000 at least ten times and above 14,000 at least three. I agree
with John. If I ever try to get above 14K again I will do it with oxygen.
--------
Roger in Oregon
1992 KXP 503
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| Subject: | Re: Evening flight |
| From: | "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com> |
Man that sounds like fun, How long did it take you to build the Firefly ? I cant
wait to be flying myself :) Where are you located Ed ??
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: VG Installation |
| Joa advised me to use 3" spacing, this means the pairs are at 3"
which fits
| between each rib in the valley, however the spacing between the
pairs is not
| 3" it is much less. Simply fit the 3" pairs centrally in each
valley.
| Mike
Hi Mike M:
The info above is what I was trying to get from you the last time I
posted reference spacing and rib valleys.
Is the trailing edge of the MKIIIx wing tapered or parallel to the
leading edge? Was wondering if one would have to compensate for 10%
back placement based on the MKIII wing. It is tapered based on the
ailerons and flaps.
Trying to learn what I can about VGs.
Take care,
john h
PS: Good to hear Patrick L's MKIIIx flies.
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| Subject: | Re: Ohio Kolbers |
| From: | "Kirk Smith" <snuffy(at)usol.com> |
"2000 x 75 is big enough for even me to land in! In this instance it's OK to
brag about size among men. HA, HA! "
Ohio Ralph
Just watchout for deer.......
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| From: | possums <possums(at)mindspring.com> |
| Subject: | Re: VG Installation |
>
>I plan to install my LandShorter fins 2 per valley, centered at about two
>and a half inches apart. I'll make the template from a piece of cardboard,
>with the slots angled as prescribed by Harrison Designs. I figure as long
>as the 2 VGs per valley are uniformly spaced, it won't matter if the valleys
>vary slightly in width.
>
>Dennis Kirby
That's what I did & it worked for me. Not on top of the ribs/
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| Subject: | Re: VG Installation |
| From: | "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com> |
Possum wrote:
>
> That's what I did & it worked for me. Not on top of the ribs
>
Im with you Possum, I am putting my VG's in the valleys, I think valley placement
would definatly be better than the tops of the ribs. If you can picture the
airflow in your mind, you want the little "tornados" that the VG's generate
to stay attached to the wing over as great an area is possible. If The VG's
are on top of a rib and the tornados start already on top of a rib, I picture
them being sucked off the top of the rib sooner and not covering or attaching
themselves to as much of the wing area. With the VG's between the ribs, the
little tornados are more likely to flow up from the vally, covering both the valley
and getting to the tops of the ribs before they seperate. THis is a "theory"
of mine, but I base it on on pictures of tests I have seen in wind tunnels
where VG's were tested with air mixed with smoke where you could actually the
tornados and how they attached themselves to the wing and where they finally
seperated...
Michael A. Bigelow
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| From: | "flht99reh" <flht99reh(at)netzero.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Ohio Kolbers |
" Just watchout for deer".... That sir, Mr. Snuffy is why my Pitiot tube has
an arrow point on the end. But it is removed during off hunting season!
Ralph of Ohio
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Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 8:27 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Ohio Kolbers
"2000 x 75 is big enough for even me to land in! In this instance it's OK to
brag about size among men. HA, HA! "
Ohio Ralph
Just watchout for deer.......
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| From: | Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Firestar II mods and VG placement |
Fellow Kolbers,
Several people ask for pictures of my Firestar flap setup.
I just posted several to the kolb photoshare along with several of my
vortex generators and of my wing tip mod.
Please check them out when Mat gets them entered.
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| From: | Ron Hoyt <rrhoyt(at)ieee.org> |
| Subject: | Fuel Line Bubbles |
I have noticed a disconcerting phenomena in the fuel supply lines of
my 912UL. i.e. Bubbles of sizeable dimensions. These bubbles are
showing up at the carburetors after the 912 fuel pump. The fuel pump
provides 15 gal per hour so there appears to be sufficient fuel for
the engine. The trouble is that they trip the ESI fuel pressure
alarm by allowing the fuel pressure to go to zero. I presume this
occurs as the bubble passes into the carburetor.
Is there any experience in the group with this phenomena.
The fuel supply to the pump is about 18 inches below the pump. The
fuel supply is from a sediment bowl that is completely full during
this phenomena. There are no leaks in the fuel system.
Do the bubbles come from the pumping energy of the pump agitating the fuel?
Are they from the vacuum in the 18 inch lift of the fuel?
Will they cause the pump to fail pumping fuel and only pump vapor?
Is the fuel pump showing initial signs of failure?
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Fuel Line Bubbles |
| Is there any experience in the group with this phenomena.
Hi Ron H:
Best way to fix bubbles in the fuel line is change from transparent
fuel line to top quality Gates neoprene fuel line. Not only will you
not have to worry about bubbles in the fuel line, but you will have a
fuel line that is much more durable and reliable than transparent
plastic "UL" lines.
The Bing carbs are designed to seperate air from fuel prior to entry
into the main jet well, on both 4 and 2 strokes.
I don't use a fuel pressure sender and display on my 912ULS
application, so have no idea if my pressure is going to zero or not.
However, the engine driven fuel pump on the 912 series engines is more
than adequate to lift fuel several feet to the carbs with no problem.
Take care,
john h
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| From: | DAquaNut(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Re Rudder trim tab |
Group,
I am left with no choice but to put a trim tab on my rudder. Problem is
the factory put the ribs on the right side of the rudder as viewed from the
rear. I need to make the rudder move to the left substantially . That would
involve putting the 2" portion of the trim tab on the left side of the rudder
while the 3" portion which is roughly 30* would be on the right side in order
to push the rudder to the left. There is not a rib on the left side to put
the rivets in. Is it OK to mount the entire trim tab on the right side where
the ribs are. I will have to put the rivets on the right side instead of how
Kolb shows it. Hope I am making sense . I just dont think I have seen a trim
tab mounted on the same side as the angled part.
Ed Diebel
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| From: | robert bean <slyck(at)frontiernet.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Fuel Line Bubbles |
Also: use fuel with lower vapor pressure such as avgas or summer
blend mogas
-BB
>
> Having the fuel pump lift the fuel from the tank naturally reduces the
> pressure causing some of the more volatile constituents of the gas to
> "boil" out. Cures: 1. JH's opaque line, 2. pump at tank level, 3,
> slightly pressurized tank, 4. larger diameter fittings at tank and
> larger diameter hose will slow the rate of pressure drop and perhaps
> lessen bubbles.
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| From: | Ron Hoyt <rrhoyt(at)ieee.org> |
| Subject: | Re: Fuel Line Bubbles |
John
Thanks for the reply.
The only reason I know of the existence of the bubbles is that I went
looking for the cause of the fuel alarm. Otherwise my entire fuel
system is made of AN fittings with alum. tubing or neoprene fuel line
with fire covering. I disconnected one of the carburetors to connect
a clear tube.
At 09:53 PM 2/10/2006, you wrote:
>
> | Is there any experience in the group with this phenomena.
>
>Hi Ron H:
>
>Best way to fix bubbles in the fuel line is change from transparent
>fuel line to top quality Gates neoprene fuel line. Not only will you
>not have to worry about bubbles in the fuel line, but you will have a
>fuel line that is much more durable and reliable than transparent
>plastic "UL" lines.
>
>The Bing carbs are designed to seperate air from fuel prior to entry
>into the main jet well, on both 4 and 2 strokes.
>
>I don't use a fuel pressure sender and display on my 912ULS
>application, so have no idea if my pressure is going to zero or not.
>However, the engine driven fuel pump on the 912 series engines is more
>than adequate to lift fuel several feet to the carbs with no problem.
>
>Take care,
>
>john h
>
>
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| From: | DAquaNut(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Re Rudder trim tab |
In a message dated 2/11/2006 6:08:56 A.M. Central Standard Time,
tnfirestar2(at)yahoo.com writes:
But in this drawing, the trailing edge tube is on the right side of the ribs,
thus making the best installation point the left side. My plane the trailing
edge tube is on the left side of the ribs, so the tab is best mounted on the
right
Mike,
That is the same drawing I had . I think I will make a tab out of
lexan like you said. Do you know what thickness your tab is?
Ed
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| From: | Rick Miles <ultrastarrick(at)yahoo.com> |
Would it be beter to atach a trim tab or make a trim sping for the rudder
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| From: | Ron Hoyt <rrhoyt(at)ieee.org> |
| Subject: | Re: Fuel Line Bubbles |
This could explain why I have had the alarms only recently. I use
non-oxiginated mogas from a local automotive gas station.
Ron
At 07:29 AM 2/11/2006, you wrote:
>
>Also: use fuel with lower vapor pressure such as avgas or summer
>blend mogas
>-BB
> >
> > Having the fuel pump lift the fuel from the tank naturally reduces the
> > pressure causing some of the more volatile constituents of the gas to
> > "boil" out. Cures: 1. JH's opaque line, 2. pump at tank level, 3,
> > slightly pressurized tank, 4. larger diameter fittings at tank and
> > larger diameter hose will slow the rate of pressure drop and perhaps
> > lessen bubbles.
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| From: | DAquaNut(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Re Rudder trim tab |
Thanks too all who replied on rudder trim. I have decided to go with lexan.
I just dont know the best thickness to use.
Ed
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| From: | "Denny Rowe" <rowedl(at)highstream.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Re Rudder trim tab |
Ed,
1/16" (.0625) or 3/32" .09375) Lexan will work fine for the tab.
Denny Rowe Mk-3, PA
PS:Let me know if you need some and what size piece, I probably have enough
scraps laying around to make your tab.
----- Original Message -----
From: <DAquaNut(at)aol.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re Rudder trim tab
>
> Thanks too all who replied on rudder trim. I have decided to go with
> lexan.
> I just dont know the best thickness to use.
>
> Ed
>
>
> --
>
>
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| From: | Mike Schnabel <tnfirestar2(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Re Rudder trim tab |
Ed,
I just realized i goofed... meant to say 3/32 of an inch NOT 3/16th!!!
Sorry for the brain freeze. Thanks to Denny, when i read his reply It woke me
up!
Mike S
Denny Rowe wrote:
Ed,
1/16" (.0625) or 3/32" .09375) Lexan will work fine for the tab.
Denny Rowe Mk-3, PA
PS:Let me know if you need some and what size piece, I probably have enough
scraps laying around to make your tab.
----- Original Message -----
From:
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re Rudder trim tab
>
> Thanks too all who replied on rudder trim. I have decided to go with
> lexan.
> I just dont know the best thickness to use.
>
> Ed
>
>
> --
>
>
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| From: | Richard Pike <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
| Subject: | Re: Re Rudder trim tab |
Be careful to only add the absolute minimum of weight to the trailing
edge of the rudder. If you add too much weight, it will flutter. Guess
how I know this?
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Mike Schnabel wrote:
>
> Ed,
>
> I just realized i goofed... meant to say 3/32 of an inch NOT 3/16th!!!
>
> Sorry for the brain freeze. Thanks to Denny, when i read his reply It woke
me up!
>
> Mike S
>
> Denny Rowe wrote:
>
> Ed,
> 1/16" (.0625) or 3/32" .09375) Lexan will work fine for the tab.
>
> Denny Rowe Mk-3, PA
> PS:Let me know if you need some and what size piece, I probably have enough
> scraps laying around to make your tab.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 11:36 AM
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re Rudder trim tab
>
>
>
>>
>> Thanks too all who replied on rudder trim. I have decided to go with
>> lexan.
>> I just dont know the best thickness to use.
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>> Ed
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| From: | DCulver701(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Past Aviation Article |
Hi John, always read all your post & enjoy them tremendously. I'm not at
all surprised your article is on the Alabama aviator website yet! It is a
wonderful story for aviation and ultra-light aircraft in particular1 As a wannabe
pilot, its hard for me to imagine doing a trip like that once. Please keep up
the good work with your articles. What i especially like in your post, is
that i've never heard you talk down to any low time pilots or wannabees like
myself, and to me that only adds more interest. Best regards, Dave Culver
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| From: | "Jim Baker" <jlbaker(at)telepath.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Fuel Line Bubbles |
> > Best way to fix bubbles in the fuel line is change from
transparent
> > fuel line to top quality Gates neoprene fuel line
I just can't let this pass.....why? Is this somehow connected to Erwin
Schrodinger's paradoxical cat or Heisenberg's uncertainty principle?
If you cannot observe the bubbles they're not there? Surely the
transparent fuel line isn't that porous? Experimental data to back this
up?
Yes, I know the above relates to quantum states, not the
macroscopic world, but you get the drift.....
Jim Baker
580.788.2779
'71 SV, 492TC
Elmore City, OK
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| From: | DAquaNut(at)AOL.COM |
| Subject: | Re: Re Dre 6000enr |
John H,
I finally bit the bullet and ordered myself a Dre 6000 enr Should be
here next Wed. or Thurs. The lady I talked to said she thought it would fit
my
Ic- a5 Icom handheld since I already have the Icom adapter. Question is
,where do I find a helmet that will fit over the headset at a fair price? They
are about as proud of those puppies as Rotax is of there mufflers.
Ed Diebel
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Fuel Line Bubbles |
| > > Best way to fix bubbles in the fuel line is change from
| transparent
| > > fuel line to top quality Gates neoprene fuel line
|
| I just can't let this pass.....why? Is this somehow connected to
Erwin
| Schrodinger's paradoxical cat or Heisenberg's uncertainty principle?
| If you cannot observe the bubbles they're not there? Surely the
| transparent fuel line isn't that porous? Experimental data to back
this
| up?
|
| Yes, I know the above relates to quantum states, not the
| macroscopic world, but you get the drift.....
|
|
| Jim Baker
|
Hi Jim:
What I was saying was the bubbles are going to be there no matter what
you do. The bubbles pose no problem to me, in that they do not affect
my engines performance. Bing took care of the problem by providing a
system to seperate the air from the fuel before it enters the main jet
well.
Nope.........I didn't say or intend that the bubbles were not there if
I could not see them. ;-)
Did not say the plastic line was porous.
Have no experimental data to back up what I said.
I do have the experience with my engines and fuel systems though, to
more than adequately back it up.
Nope, don't get the drift. Not looking for it.
Take care,
john h
hauck's holler, alabama
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| Subject: | Re: Past Aviation Article |
| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
> Hi John, always read all your post
Hi Dave:
Thanks.
--------
John Hauck
MKIII/912ULS
hauck's holler, alabama
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Re Dre 6000enr |
| Question is
| ,where do I find a helmet |
| Ed Diebel
Hi Ed:
I don't know.
I bought one of those David Clark helmets their headset fit into, but
never could get comfortable with it and sent it back. That was years
ago though. I am sure they have much better systems now days.
Take care,
john h
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| From: | "Steven Green" <Kolbdriver(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Fuel Line Bubbles |
Ron,
The bubbles are possibly of some concern, the fuel pressure loss is
definitely something to be concerned about. My fuel level is 30 + inches
below the fuel pump at times and my fuel pressure stays very constant. I
also use EIS to monitor fuel pressure and have never had it to alarm with
the engine running. Is your tank properly vented? Do you have a fuel
filter on the suction side of the pump and if so is it located down at the
tank or close to the pump? How often does it alarm? Any kinks or callapsed
hose on the suction side?
Steven Green
MkIII 912S
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Hoyt" <rrhoyt(at)ieee.org>
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 10:29 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Fuel Line Bubbles
>
> I have noticed a disconcerting phenomena in the fuel supply lines of
> my 912UL. i.e. Bubbles of sizeable dimensions. These bubbles are
> showing up at the carburetors after the 912 fuel pump. The fuel pump
> provides 15 gal per hour so there appears to be sufficient fuel for
> the engine. The trouble is that they trip the ESI fuel pressure
> alarm by allowing the fuel pressure to go to zero. I presume this
> occurs as the bubble passes into the carburetor.
>
> Is there any experience in the group with this phenomena.
>
> The fuel supply to the pump is about 18 inches below the pump. The
> fuel supply is from a sediment bowl that is completely full during
> this phenomena. There are no leaks in the fuel system.
>
> Do the bubbles come from the pumping energy of the pump agitating the
fuel?
> Are they from the vacuum in the 18 inch lift of the fuel?
> Will they cause the pump to fail pumping fuel and only pump vapor?
> Is the fuel pump showing initial signs of failure?
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Re Dre 6000enr |
| From: | "John Jung" <jrjungjr(at)yahoo.com> |
Ed and Group,
Over my DRE 6000, I wear a PRO-COM helmet from Comtronics Engineering.
There website is: http://www.comtronicsengineering.com/
I don't know there curent cost, but it was under $200 when I bought mine.
--------
John Jung
Firestar II N6163J
Surprise, AZ
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| From: | Richard Pike <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
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Looks good. Couple questions: How does the radiator work up ahead of the
engine? I had my radiator in that location for a while, finally decided
it was acting too much like a spoiler - Biggest problem was if I got up
to operating temps and couldn't go ahead and take off, it overheated.
Because it was too far from the prop, no airflow. But your radiator
looks bigger than the one I had - comments?
How much does the electric flap actuator weigh?
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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| Subject: | More winter flying around Montreal videos ... |
| From: | "Noel" <noel(at)teledata.qc.ca> |
Hello group !
I had a very nice flight today in this wonderfull winter day.
The temperature was around 20 F (-7 C) and the conditions were ideal !
I am posting a few videos made with my camera phone to give you a taste of winter
flying around Montreal ...
The first one shows the majestic St-Lawrence river just north of Mtl, where 3
other rivers join the big one ... That is the Outawais, Riviere des prairies
and l'Assomption ...
Remember that the quality is limited ... and to turn the volume down before playing
;-) You need a recent version of Real Player to play the video.
More videos to come ...
Noel Bouchard
Twinstar MK II / 503
~ 340 Hrs
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| Subject: | Flying low over frozen St-Lawrence river |
| From: | "Noel" <noel(at)teledata.qc.ca> |
Hello again ...
This is a shorter one ... flying low over the frozen river ...
It look like water at first but watch more closely ...
You will even see some ice-fishing shacks ;-)
The nice thing in winter is that it;'s perfectly safe to fly this way ...
I would not do that in summer ;-)
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=11507#11507
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| Subject: | More winter flying fun ... |
| From: | "Noel" <noel(at)teledata.qc.ca> |
Going back home with the sun ...
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=11509#11509
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| Subject: | Landing with the sunset ... |
| From: | "Noel" <noel(at)teledata.qc.ca> |
... and to terminate a perfect winter flight ... what about a nice landing with
the sun setting in background ...
Notwe that i need about 1/4 of the strip ... so i "float" a bit before
taking it down ...
I hope i am not annoying the group with these videos ...
if so please tell me ;-)
Have fun flying !
Noel
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| From: | "Richard Swiderski" <rswiderski(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | [ Eugene Zimmerman ] : FS Mods |
Eugene,
1) How long does it take to deploy your flaps?
2) Where did you get the electric screw & what's the weight?
3) Where did you get the plastic angle stock?
4) Did you do a before & after comparison of your wing tip mod?
Thanks,
Richard Swiderski
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| Subject: | Re: English U-Joint |
In a message dated 2/11/2006 8:06:45 PM Eastern Standard Time,
rlaird(at)cavediver.com writes:
If anyone out there has installed the "English" u-joint used to adjust
washout, could you please send me a photo of the installed joint. I got
mine in, but it'd be nice to see what it looks like on a successful
installation.
It is not "washout" but is "incidence". I installed one on my FS II but have
no photo; if I did it wouldn't show much more than the original bracket.
Will allow you up to approx. 1/4" adjustment up or down on the rear of your wing.
Don't forget to put the cotter key back in.
Howard Shackleford
FS II
SC
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| From: | Robert Laird <rlaird(at)cavediver.com> |
| Subject: | Re: English U-Joint |
So, in your case, what problem did it solve (e.g. left banking tendency),
and did you "raise" the wing or lower it?
-- R
On 2/11/06, HShack(at)aol.com wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 2/11/2006 8:06:45 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> rlaird(at)cavediver.com writes:
> If anyone out there has installed the "English" u-joint used to adjust
> washout, could you please send me a photo of the installed joint. I got
> mine in, but it'd be nice to see what it looks like on a successful
> installation.
>
>
> It is not "washout" but is "incidence". I installed one on my FS II but
> have
> no photo; if I did it wouldn't show much more than the original bracket.
> Will allow you up to approx. 1/4" adjustment up or down on the rear of
> your wing.
>
> Don't forget to put the cotter key back in.
>
> Howard Shackleford
> FS II
> SC
>
>
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| From: | Ron Hoyt <rrhoyt(at)ieee.org> |
| Subject: | Re: Fuel Line Bubbles |
Steve
You wrote:
" Is your tank properly vented? "
Yes. I measured 2 inches of water pressure on a
manometer taped into the fuel tank vents during level flight.
"Do you have a fuel filter on the suction side of the pump and if so
is it located down at the tank or close to the pump?"
Yes I normally have a fuel filter in the sentiment
bowl. However, I removed it for the testing. So it would not impact
the observations.
"How often does it alarm?"
The alarms seem to increase as the fuel level in the tank
goes down. The alarms first occur at about 10.9 gal out of 13.4 gal
at the start of the flight. The alarm flashed so fast I couldn't see
what the parameter was. Later (about 30 min.) the alarm stayed on
long enough to identify it as the fuel pressure. Later still (about
35 min) it stayed on long enough for me to watch the fuel pressure
fluctuate between 0 and 2 and back to 0 pounds of pressure. I headed
back to the airport then. The alarm was flashing randomly and
frequently a couple of times a minuite. There was about 8.5 gal of
fuel in the tanks. The tanks are in the wing roots. All my testing
was done on the ground with the remaining fuel in the tanks.
The alarming was frequent enough that I turned on an auxiliary
electric fuel pump when I entered the pattern. The alarms
stopped. The fuel pressure no longer fluctuated around 4 to 5 psi
but stabilized at 5 psi. The electric pump is about 4 inched from
the sentiment bowl at the same level.
" Any kinks or collapsed hose on the suction side?"
I inspected for this, however, the fire protection covering
over the neoprene hoses makes this hard to determine. In view of the
last question and the electric fuel pump action, this could be a
problem area. Tomorrow I will determine the adequacy of the hoses to
the engine!
Thanks
Ron
At 05:10 PM 2/11/2006, you wrote:
>
>Ron,
>
>The bubbles are possibly of some concern, the fuel pressure loss is
>definitely something to be concerned about. My fuel level is 30 + inches
>below the fuel pump at times and my fuel pressure stays very constant. I
>also use EIS to monitor fuel pressure and have never had it to alarm with
>the engine running. Is your tank properly vented? Do you have a fuel
>filter on the suction side of the pump and if so is it located down at the
>tank or close to the pump? How often does it alarm? Any kinks or callapsed
>hose on the suction side?
>
>Steven Green
>MkIII 912S
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Ron Hoyt" <rrhoyt(at)ieee.org>
>To:
>Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 10:29 PM
>Subject: Kolb-List: Fuel Line Bubbles
>
>
> >
> > I have noticed a disconcerting phenomena in the fuel supply lines of
> > my 912UL. i.e. Bubbles of sizeable dimensions. These bubbles are
> > showing up at the carburetors after the 912 fuel pump. The fuel pump
> > provides 15 gal per hour so there appears to be sufficient fuel for
> > the engine. The trouble is that they trip the ESI fuel pressure
> > alarm by allowing the fuel pressure to go to zero. I presume this
> > occurs as the bubble passes into the carburetor.
> >
> > Is there any experience in the group with this phenomena.
> >
> > The fuel supply to the pump is about 18 inches below the pump. The
> > fuel supply is from a sediment bowl that is completely full during
> > this phenomena. There are no leaks in the fuel system.
> >
> > Do the bubbles come from the pumping energy of the pump agitating the
>fuel?
> > Are they from the vacuum in the 18 inch lift of the fuel?
> > Will they cause the pump to fail pumping fuel and only pump vapor?
> > Is the fuel pump showing initial signs of failure?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Thanks Richard,
The radiator works just fine never had a problem even on the hottest
days last summer. It may warm up a bit over operating temp in a
prolonged idle. I do not worry about it until temps get over 180.
Temps are 140 +/- while flying. I'll block off part of the radiator
in colder weather. I wanted to keep radiator and exhaust weight in
front of the engine so I could mount the engine as far aft as
possible for maximum prop clearance from torque tubes. I used an
aluminum auto radiator from a Ford Fiesta. It fits nicely between the
wings and slants front to keep the height to a minimum and provide
room for a standard rotax exhaust system.
The electric servo is very light, I would guess less than 1lb. I will
post an exact weight for you this coming week.
On Feb 11, 2006, at 7:44 PM, Richard Pike wrote:
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> Looks good. Couple questions: How does the radiator work up ahead
> of the
> engine? I had my radiator in that location for a while, finally
> decided
> it was acting too much like a spoiler - Biggest problem was if I
> got up
> to operating temps and couldn't go ahead and take off, it overheated.
> Because it was too far from the prop, no airflow. But your radiator
> looks bigger than the one I had - comments?
>
> How much does the electric flap actuator weigh?
>
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
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| From: | Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Re: [ Eugene Zimmerman ] : FS Mods |
Hey Rich,
I knew someone would ask me that. :-)
I lucked out when a local machine shop went out business that used
these servos for a project they worked on. I salvaged several from a
bunch of stuff they were discarding. They were slightly used but like
new.
I believe you can get them from an industrial supply place like
Grainger but they may be a little salty. I could check for you. I'll
also post an exact weight but they are very light.
I did not time the full stroke but they are very similar to speed of
152/172 Cessna flaps, perhaps a bit faster.
The plastic angle is a corner wall protector strip you can get in the
Paint and Wall Paper section of a Home Depot or most any homebuilder
supply place. They come in 8 lengths with stick on adhesive for only
a coupla bucks. Of course the adhesive is on the wrong side for our
use. I simply removed the tape, cut them to little inch and a
quarter pieces, put them all in a jar with gasoline for an hour or
two to dissolve the sticky adhesive then wiped them clean with a
towel and cut the angle with a scissors. Make half of them left and
half of them right. Stick em on with a dab of clear RTV silicone.
Cost ya less then 10 bucks.
As far as the wing tip mods, I have had several Kolb models with the
standard wing tip. It is rather tedious to get the compound bend on
the bow tube just right to do the tip modification. The difference
in handling is that the mod now gives some definite roll control with
rudder only which the standard Kolb tip configuration does not
provide. All standard Kolb models are roll unstable with rudder
control only. I like the looks of it and the roll control but would
I encourage others to try the mod? Probably not.
The flaps and the VGs are what make me a happy camper with my
Firestar mods.
On Feb 11, 2006, at 8:34 PM, Richard Swiderski wrote:
>
>
> Eugene,
>
> 1) How long does it take to deploy your flaps?
> 2) Where did you get the electric screw & what's the weight?
> 3) Where did you get the plastic angle stock?
> 4) Did you do a before & after comparison of your wing tip mod?
>
> Thanks,
> Richard Swiderski
>
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| From: | "Dan Cooper" <kcooper(at)ptd.net> |
| Subject: | Old Kolb Wing Rib Reinforcement |
Fellow Kolbers,
Started wing assembly today on my Old Kolb Slingshot after a really, really,
really long delay (do planes still have wings?) and could use some advice.
I=92ve got a blueprint page showing the additional =BE=94 angle reinforcement on
the outer rib, with no mention in the instructions. Unfortunately, there
isn=92t enough =BE=94 angle to do the job. Got no problem ordering more. There
is,
however, 48 feet of =BD=94 angle that isn=92t mentioned anywhere in the prints
or
instructions. I assume it=92s for additional reinforcement of the remaining
ribs (or maybe a trailer to haul it) and have been trying to figure out how
much and where. I would have enough to run along the bottoms but wonder if a
diagonal would add more strength. Anybody have any ideas/plans that show?
Thanks, =91Coop=92 in PA
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| From: | "Dave G." <occom(at)ns.sympatico.ca> |
Are there any Kolbs registered as AULA in Canada? Will TNK issue
certificates for FS II's?
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Friday I passed my airworthiness for ELSA, the DAR I used was
great. Next
| week flight testing!
|
| Robert Mason
Hi Bob:
Great!
Be looking for you at MV in three months. Three months! Wow! Times a
flying.
Take it easy and fly well.
john h
titus, alabama
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| From: | "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart(at)onlyinternet.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Fuel Line Bubbles |
>
>
Ron,
It might help to insert a short section of clear fuel line just before your
engine pump. If you do not see bubbles here but continue to see them after
the pump, you may have a diaphragm starting to go bad, a pin hole leak on
the suction side of the casting or loose screws holding the pump together.
If you see bubbles before the engine pump, it indicates that there is a
failure some where before the engine pump. You may have a small crack in
the fuel line, or a connector that is not tight, etc. If you turn on your
electric pump and the bubbles disappear, it is a further indication of a
small suction leak between the electric fuel pump and the engine pump.
Also there was a service bulletin out on your engine model describing cracks
found in engine pump inlet region. You may want to check out:
http://www.auf.asn.au/airworthiness/912031.pdf
Hope this helps you out.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Fuel Line Bubbles |
| Also there was a service bulletin out on your engine model
describing cracks
| found in engine pump inlet region. You may want to check out:
|
| http://www.auf.asn.au/airworthiness/912031.pdf
|
| Hope this helps you out.
|
| Jack B. Hart FF004
| Winchester, IN
Ron/Jack/Gang:
After rereading the SB, looks like activation of the electric fuel
pump, with engine not running, would be a good way to check for
leaks..
I remember in the old days of ultralighting with transparent fuel
line, spending a lot of time chasing air bubbles to no avail.
Eric Tucker, Rotax, recommended using a fuel pressure gauge to monitor
fuel pressure.
Was thinking, that's dangerous for me, it might be a good idea to
check the fuel pressure sender for the EIS. If the warning is raising
Hell and the engine is continuing to run normally, could be indication
there is a problem with your fuel pressure monitor.
Just trying to help.
john h
MKIII/912ULS
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Past Aviation Article |
| Thanks for posting the article - great trips make for great
reading.
| Did you have any problem with carrying a survival rifle at Canadian
customs?
| ang:
| AzDave
AZ/Gang:
No problem taking survival rifle or shot gun into Canada if barrel is
at least 18.5".
No handguns allowed.
Must buy a weapons permit for $50.00 CDN (30.00 US). Is good for one
year. Customs will be happy to sell you one. ;-)
A letter from Air Transport Canada can be downloaded from their web
site. This autorizes you to fly your US Experimental Aircraft into
Canada.
Most of the time you will not meet a Canadian Custom Inspector, but
get cleared over the telephone. I usually call Candian Customs prior
to departure from the US and let them know what my ETA is, in addition
to the normal flight plan with the comment ADCUS (advise Customs).
john h
hauck's holler, alabama
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| From: | "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier(at)cableone.net> |
Gang,
Fixed my problem. I replaced the rivets holding the Wing Fold Tube in place
with 3/16" AN- bolts, washers and lock nuts. (Yes, if you have a wife with
small hands it is possible for her to get the washer and nut on the inside of
the boom tube.) This really anchored the wing fold tube in place, but the problem
still exsisted in that the bolts were supporting the weight of the wings.
So, after getting an ok from Travis at Kolb, I mixed up some JB Weld and filled
in the voids on both sides. On the right side, the void was really big, like
about 3/8" bigger than the tube in some places, so the tube was just "floating"
in the middle of the hole. I didn't notice, but as the JB Weld dried, it
trickled down the inside of the tube so that only a small thread connected
the wing fold tube to the boom tube. Still, even this small amount really solidified
the Wing Fold Tube. So, I had my wife (with the small hands) tape the
inside of the boom tube and reapplied JB Weld and it worked fine. The tube now
is very solid. Just to be sure, since there are no rivets on the right side,
I made up a small plate and riveted it under the Wing Fold Tube. The wings
fold up very nicely now and line up with the Wing Fold Tube better than they
ever did.
Thanks for the help.
AzDave
(For those of you not aware of the problem, the original builder apparently
misaligned the Wing Fold Tube and elongated the hole in the Boom Tube to make
it fit. This caused the weight of the wings to be carried by the rivets instead
of the Wing Fold Tube, and rivets kept breaking.)
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| From: | Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Re: [ Eugene Zimmerman ] Linear Actuator info. |
Richard / Richard and fellow Kolbers,
Back at ya with the info on the electric Linear Actuator I'm using
for my flaps.
Electrak 1, model S12-17A8-06
12 VDC, 75 lbs. load rating,
stroke length 6 ",
and it weighs exactly 1.45 lbs.
You can find it here -
http://www.linearactuators.com/PDFs/Catalogs_and_Brochures/
Actuator_Catalog_Industrial_Section.pdf
But also check out ebay item #
4611331619, also 4612266425, and 8035475116
may be of interest to ya.
One caution, not all models have built-in limit switches.
Power Hatch Lift, Linear Actuator, 6 inch extend
On Feb 11, 2006, at 7:44 PM, Richard Pike wrote:
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> Looks good. Couple questions: How does the radiator work up ahead
> of the
> engine? I had my radiator in that location for a while, finally
> decided
> it was acting too much like a spoiler - Biggest problem was if I
> got up
> to operating temps and couldn't go ahead and take off, it overheated.
> Because it was too far from the prop, no airflow. But your radiator
> looks bigger than the one I had - comments?
>
> How much does the electric flap actuator weigh?
>
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
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| From: | "boyd" <by0ung(at)brigham.net> |
| Subject: | fuel line bubbles |
If you have bubbles in the fuel lines the first thing I would do is a vacuum
test. Close off the supply and put a vacuum on the line going to the
carbs,, next do a pressure test, because of the directional valves in the
fuel pump you will have to apply the pressure from the tank side of the
pump.
Next compare the pressure on your pump to the pressure the pump should
provide..
Boyd
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| From: | "Dan Cooper" <kcooper(at)ptd.net> |
| Subject: | SS Reinforced Ribs |
Sorry to jump in the middle of a thread, but I was wondering if there are
any other SS builders that could answer some questions I have about rib
reinforcing. My plans are a little sketchy in this area. Any help would be
greatly appreciated.
Thanks, Dan in PA
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| From: | "Jim Ballenger" <ulpilot(at)cavtel.net> |
Great news, Let us know how the test flight goes.
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=11914#11914
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| From: | TRCowan <tc1917(at)Direcway.com> |
Would like everyone on the list to know there is an almost new FSII for sale thru our web site. I have seen it and it is a beauty. The people just bought an SS and would like to see someone get this pirty plane. go to: www.homestead.com/southernflyers/ForSale.html or just www.homestead.com/southernflyers and go to the for sale section. There are also other things there someone might be interested in. Ted Cowan, Alabama
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| From: | "David Key" <dhkey(at)msn.com> |
I think that sold on Ebay on Sunday.
From: TRCowan <tc1917(at)Direcway.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: for sale
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 09:35:12 -0600
>
>Would like everyone on the list to know there is an almost new FSII for
>sale thru our web site. I have seen it and it is a beauty. The people
>just bought an SS and would like to see someone get this pirty plane. go
>to: www.homestead.com/southernflyers/ForSale.html or just
>www.homestead.com/southernflyers and go to the for sale section. There are
>also other things there someone might be interested in. Ted Cowan, Alabama
>
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Fellow Kolbers,
If you subcribe to Kitplanes magazine beware of a scam to lock in a cheaper rate
asking you for a credit card number. The outfit is out of Floridia. Kitplanes
is out of CA. [Wink]
Paul
ps. Matt can you post or forward to all matronincs list that may be affected?
--------
Paul Petty
Kolbra #12
Ms Dixie
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=12184#12184
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| From: | "Rick Pearce" <rap(at)isp.com> |
How many gals of base collar does it take to paint a classic?
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| From: | Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL <Dennis.Kirby(at)kirtland.af.mil> |
<< How many gals of base collar does it take to paint a classic? >>
Rick -
Based on Jim & Dondi's recommendation, here are the quantities of Poly-stuff
I used in finishing my Mark-III Classic:
- 4 gallons of Poly-Tone paint (I used white)
- 3 gallons of Poly-Spray (silver UV block)
- 2 gallons of Poly-Brush (weave filler)
- 2 gallons of Reducer
- 2 quarts of trim color paint
- 1 quart of Poly-Tack (fabric "glue")
And it turned out to be exactly the right amounts of these products.
Hope this helps ...
Dennis Kirby
Mark-III, 912ul, Powerfin-70
New Mexico
http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40">
How many gals of
base collar does it take to paint a classic?
Rick
Based on Jim Dondis
recommendation, here are the quantities of Poly-stuff I used in finishing my
Mark-III Classic:
- 4 gallons of Poly-Tone
paint (I used white)
- 3 gallons of Poly-Spray
(silver
UV block)
- 2 gallons of Poly-Brush
(weave filler)
- 2 gallons of Reducer
- 2 quarts of trim color paint
- 1 quart of Poly-Tack (fabric
glue)
And it turned out to be exactly
the right amounts of these products.
Hope this helps
Dennis Kirby
Mark-III, 912ul, Powerfin-70
New Mexico
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| From: | DCulver701(at)aol.com |
Boy, thats almost 12 gallons of paint & glue, Probably around 70 lbs. total?
Got any idea what percentage of that total, would actually end up on the
plane? Tia, best regards, Dave Culver
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| From: | Cory Emberson <bootless(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Re: SCAM- Kitplanes |
Hello Paul and Kolb list members -
I forwarded your message to my Editor-in-Chief (Marc Cook) and asked him
if he knew about this. He forwarded it to Cindy Pedersen, the publisher
of Kitplanes Magazine. Her message seems to have bounced, so she asked
me to repost it for you all here. Thanks for the question!
(Attention to Matt Dralle: Please feel free to do a follow-up post if
this has gone to any other of your lists as well - thanks!)
best regards,
Cory Emberson
Contributing Editor
Kitplanes Magazine
KHWD
Clarification of KITPLANES Magazine's California business office and the
Palm Coast, Florida subscriber fulfillment office.
Yes, we do have a telephone renewal effort - it is done through Ebsco
telemarketing after the subscription has expired. We do ask for a credit
card number, but it is not necessary- (they can be billed). They are NOT
offered a better deal if they give us a credit card number - they get
the standard rates that they also see in the mailed efforts.
We are only contacting our own subscribers. If their profile is marked
'do not call,' we don't call them. We also do NOT do any outbound new
business offers to try to get new subscribers. If the call does not
come from Ebsco or the mail from Palm Coast Data, it is not authorized
by KITPLANES Magazine.
For any questions regarding the expiration date or to renew directly,
call subscriber service at 800.622.1065 or access your account
information online at:
https://secure.palmcoastd.com/pcd/eServ?iServ=MDEwRjQyNjgwNQ==
Happy landings,
Cindy Pedersen, Publisher
760.436.4747
Paul Petty wrote:
>
>Fellow Kolbers,
>If you subcribe to Kitplanes magazine beware of a scam to lock in a cheaper rate
asking you for a credit card number. The outfit is out of Floridia. Kitplanes
is out of CA. [Wink]
>
>Paul
>
>ps. Matt can you post or forward to all matronincs list that may be affected?
>
>--------
>Paul Petty
>Kolbra #12
>Ms Dixie
>
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>Read this topic online here:
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>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=12184#12184
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| From: | "Rick Pearce" <rap(at)isp.com> |
Dave: I'm not seeing who you replying to.Must be getting filtered out.
----- Original Message -----
From: <DCulver701(at)aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: paint
>
> Boy, thats almost 12 gallons of paint & glue, Probably around 70 lbs.
total?
> Got any idea what percentage of that total, would actually end up on the
> plane? Tia, best regards, Dave Culver
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: SCAM- Kitplanes |
Cory,
So it wasnt a scam? When I called kitplanes the lady I spoke with said she knew
nothing about the company in fla and said Kitplanes never ask for a credit card
number. I called directory assitance and there was no Kitplanes listed at the
address listed on the mail out. What got me was I filled out the form from
fla and had mailed it yesterday morning. Yesterday at noon I recived the renewal
notice from the cal office. So I called the post office and had them pull the
letter from the mail. So I thought it was a scam. Sorry for the confusion.
Kitplanes id my favorite magizine by the way! [Wink]
--------
Paul Petty
Kolbra #12
Ms Dixie
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=12477#12477
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| From: | Cory Emberson <bootless(at)earthlink.net> |
Hi Paul,
I'm glad Cindy responded to this - she knows all the details on the
publishing/subscription process. Many magazines and other kinds of
companies (like video/DVD programs, etc.) use fulfillment houses to
handle the order-taking and shipping. It's such a specialized part of
the process that it wouldn't be uncommon for the service reps handling
subscription requests to not know exactly where they're located.
I hope her reply answered your questions - her phone # is listed below
her response if you need any more details. It's always a good thing to
be aware of who's getting your personal information - I grilled the AT&T
rep yesterday when they called to confirm the services I added for my
business phone. I get so many "I'm calling on behalf of AT&T..." etc.
calls to be very suspicious of people calling me and asking me to
confirm an order over the phone. :-)
Glad you like the magazine! (I do, too!)
best,
Cory
Paul Petty wrote:
>
>Cory,
>So it wasnt a scam? When I called kitplanes the lady I spoke with said she knew
nothing about the company in fla and said Kitplanes never ask for a credit card
number. I called directory assitance and there was no Kitplanes listed at
the address listed on the mail out. What got me was I filled out the form from
fla and had mailed it yesterday morning. Yesterday at noon I recived the renewal
notice from the cal office. So I called the post office and had them pull
the letter from the mail. So I thought it was a scam. Sorry for the confusion.
Kitplanes id my favorite magizine by the way! [Wink]
>
>--------
>Paul Petty
>Kolbra #12
>Ms Dixie
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
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>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=12477#12477
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Just wondering the dates of the MV trip this year. Judd L
Hi Judd:
The planned dates are 19 through 21 May. However, some of us will get
there on 17 and 18 May.
Bring lots of folding chairs, water, and those wonderful hamburgers
you cooked up for us last year. ;-)
Everyone is looking forward to this year's 4th Annual
Unplanned/Unorganized Kolb Flyin at Monument Valley. There are going
to be some new airplanes this year, including yours.
Only three months and counting.
john h
MKIII/912ULS
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| Subject: | Those flashing & blinking & blinking and flashing! |
| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)netzero.com> |
Towers, no not the ones that are at the airports, but the ones everywhere else.
The more I get up (in the air, not out of bed), the more I wonder about the mindset
behind the towers: cell, microwave, radio and God know what else out there.
As I go along the freeway (in an automobile, but soon in the Kolb), I notice that
there doesn't appear to be any rhyme or reason (from my prospective) as to
when there lit. Tall ones sometimes are lit in some places, while not in other
places during the day. Small or low ones close to the ground and near trees sometimes
are lit and others in clearings are not. Some are during the day, all
day and all night and some, not at all during the day but also not at night.
Some are lit when it is overcast or foggy or raining or dark, but not night, while
others were not. Some that had taller towers near them (within a couple thousand
feet) were not lit if one or another was lit around it. It didn't have
to be the taller one that was lit in conditions where there were two or three
mixed (read: cell, radio, microwave) towers near them. I could go up the freeway
or down the freeway (interstate I-71 or I-70) or major state highways (State
route 3 in Ohio) and it didn't make any difference. Nothing from all outward
appearances indicated any form of uniformity.
Now I know that as ultra heavy drivers we arent supposed to be out more than one
half hour before sunrise or same after sunset. But anyone that flies (or drives
a car) knows that many of those towers blend in to the surrounding community
quite well and on an overcast day darned near impossible to recognize as they
are for the most part "grey" in color. So I decided to do a little research.
What I found out was amazing and worth everyones better understanding. And the
ironic way I found out these things and the proper web sites was in itself
very surprising.
Now I knew what I was looking for: "Towers" and "lighting"! But you should also
know that those words are synonymous with (ready) Airports! So I did some further
analyzing, which I am not all that good at but knew that somebody within
the Federal Avaiation Groups would have to have some major say in what sticks
up in the sky. And I was right. Near airports at airports in airports and effecting
airports. But what I didnt know was that the FAA does not dictate towers
requirements outside of the above (notice I said dictate as in rule, law over,
demand, command). They study the potential effect to entering into, exiting
from, on property and effects upon military set aside areas. In their own words
they do not have authority over location, size, color, lighting, blinking,
flashing: red or white lighting of towers directly. They study, advise, suggest
needs, best suited to air safety effects by towers. Other than approach and
departures slopes and angles, they have no direct say-so!
The FCC has the say-so! Ah-ha!!
And how I found this information was indirectly through (ready) a bird organization
web site. Their concern was that the lights and the towers were major concerns
and killers to migrating birds and that someone has to do something about
those &
%$#$#7 towers. The FAA responded by indication that they are not in authority regarding
the towers that they can only make suggestions. As I continued in my
unwavering persuit of just who in government is monitoring and establishing regulations
regarding flight safety, I came across the book according to the FAA.
This is called Advisory Circular
AC 70/7460-1K Obstruction Marking and lighting (and you may find same by typing
in said same in the search engine of your choice). In this advisory there are
62 pages of information. But I still could not decipher why some little towers
were lit during the day and no tall towers. Or vice-versa. When do they come
on (something to do with lumens and distance) and what takes place if there
are two or three in a near piece of geography or what I call tower farms. It appears
that there are structural concerns, locations concerns for the sake of
power lines, buildings, neighbors etc but no continuity that says all 500 foot
towers must be lit 24/7 or towers above xx feet above nearby vegetation, buildings
or other towers must be lit and blinking at certain times day or night or
anything about visibility regarding them in daylight or the lack thereof. Amazing,
no?
As a matter of fact, If an individual like you or I see a tower that we believe
should be flashing and isnt we wouldnt know who to contact or if by the FAAs
study and subsequent suggestion or the manufacturers installation or the owners
understand or agreement, even if its required to be lit. Now I know that these
arent concerns to everyone around, say like Arizona, Nevada, Texas, Oregon
or other large land masses more sparsely populated. But here in populas Ohio,
Ind, PA, Mich, NY, Ill and many other states they are beginning to become great
concerns. Especially as cell towers are getting put up everywhere, and these
people (Verizon, Sprint, ATT, etc) dont share tower space that often.
And so we dont get confused here with my wrongly directed concerns as to night
flying or flying at the edge of the light envelope. I have to say that the FAA
and our mutual concerns should always be visibility of all obstructions for the
sake of safety. I also know that some will be quick to say know your flight
path or thats what charts are for; read-um! But I would be somewhat confident
in saying; yet I will not speak for the John Haucks of the world, with towers
going up everywhere daily, we need all the help we can get. It only makes sense
(perhaps not common sense (because we wouldnt want some bird to be blinded
and ram into a tower and get killed), that some major simple standard be established
that would say simply if your flying at 800 1400 feet you will know by
the blinking flashing light that there is a tower close by even during the day.
It wouldnt be all that difficult to create a reflector that would cause the
flashing, blinking lights to be invisible at or near ground level but at tower
level or within say 200 -300 feet below, quite visible.
I would really like some feedback here and If the FAA is reading; your advise,
wisdom, input would be very welcome. And if youre a bird lover, Im sure we can
do some multi billion dollar study that would determine bird species in the tower
area, their level of color perception and without eliminating the ability
on the part of us fliers, produce the flashing blinking light in a mutually satisfactory
color.
Ralph of Ohiogood or bad!
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| From: | Charlie England <ceengland(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Re: SCAM- Kitplanes |
remote connection to this thread:
If you haven't been to Sun-N-Fun before, you might not know that the
publisher has a booth there every year & they offer 2 yrs for the price
of one, new or renewal subscription.
If you aren't going & you need to renew, send the money with a friend. :-)
Charlie
Cory Emberson wrote:
>
>Hello Paul and Kolb list members -
>
>I forwarded your message to my Editor-in-Chief (Marc Cook) and asked him
>if he knew about this. He forwarded it to Cindy Pedersen, the publisher
>of Kitplanes Magazine. Her message seems to have bounced, so she asked
>me to repost it for you all here. Thanks for the question!
>
>(Attention to Matt Dralle: Please feel free to do a follow-up post if
>this has gone to any other of your lists as well - thanks!)
>
>best regards,
>Cory Emberson
>Contributing Editor
>Kitplanes Magazine
>KHWD
>
>Clarification of KITPLANES Magazine's California business office and the
>Palm Coast, Florida subscriber fulfillment office.
>
>Yes, we do have a telephone renewal effort - it is done through Ebsco
>telemarketing after the subscription has expired. We do ask for a credit
>card number, but it is not necessary- (they can be billed). They are NOT
>offered a better deal if they give us a credit card number - they get
>the standard rates that they also see in the mailed efforts.
>
>We are only contacting our own subscribers. If their profile is marked
>'do not call,' we don't call them. We also do NOT do any outbound new
>business offers to try to get new subscribers. If the call does not
>come from Ebsco or the mail from Palm Coast Data, it is not authorized
>by KITPLANES Magazine.
>
>For any questions regarding the expiration date or to renew directly,
>call subscriber service at 800.622.1065 or access your account
>information online at:
>https://secure.palmcoastd.com/pcd/eServ?iServ=MDEwRjQyNjgwNQ==
>
>Happy landings,
>
>Cindy Pedersen, Publisher
>760.436.4747
>
>
>Paul Petty wrote:
>
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>
>>
>>Fellow Kolbers,
>>If you subcribe to Kitplanes magazine beware of a scam to lock in a cheaper rate
asking you for a credit card number. The outfit is out of Floridia. Kitplanes
is out of CA. [Wink]
>>
>>Paul
>>
>>ps. Matt can you post or forward to all matronincs list that may be affected?
>>
>>--------
>>Paul Petty
>>Kolbra #12
>>Ms Dixie
>>
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| Subject: | Control Surface Flutter ???? |
| From: | "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com> |
Has anyone ever had control surface flutter in a Kolb ? Or the warning signs of
flutter such as them starting to buzz at high speeds ? I am planning on putting
electric trim tabs on all the control surfaces which will add a little weight
to them on the trailing edge (about 8 ounces each), but im hoping not enough
weight to induce flutter. Any information or experience on flutter on Kolbs
would be greatly appreciated.
Michael A. Bigelow
--------
NO FEAR - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!!
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=12792#12792
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| Subject: | Re: Those flashing & blinking & blinking and flashing! |
| From: | "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot2(at)comcast.net> |
Hi Ralph,
You must be having one of those days!
The requirements for marking, painting and lighting of towers is very specific.
The FCC is the controlling authority:
http://www.fcc.gov/mb/policy/dtv/lighting.html
http://www.access.gpo.gov/nara/cfr/waisidx_05/47cfr17_05.html
The FAA has several Advisory Circulars that cover the subject and are made binding
by the FCC:
http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgAdvisoryCircular.nsf/0/736f762742f45ab9862569ee0077ef5e/$FILE/AC70-7460-1K.pdf
http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgAdvisoryCircular.nsf/0/fd38311187c8a5da86256c690074ffda/$FILE/150-5345-43e.pdf
If you go to these links and do the reading, you will have way more knowledge that
needed by a pilot.
--------
John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolbra, 912ULS
http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot1
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=12794#12794
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| From: | Richard Pike <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
| Subject: | Re: Control Surface Flutter ???? |
<http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/pg6.htm>The MKIII has aileron
counterbalances because the ailerons are bad to flutter. It is most
discomfiting to look at your right wingtip and see it become a blur. I
had added approx 1.5 ounces to the trailing edge of the right aileron
for a manually adjustable trim tab. That was 1.5 ounces too much.
It is even worse to have your rudder start to flutter and immediately
have your wingman sounding very tense in your headset saying "What ever
you are doing, quit - the boom tube is starting to look like a sine
wave!" I had added approximately 3 ounces to the rudder trailing edge
for a nav light and a fixed trim tab. It was way too much.
So now my rudder also has a counterbalance. Remember that web page of
mine that you couldn't find? The rudder counterbalance is on there.
http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/pg6.htm
If you are planning on adding 8 ounces to your Kolb control surface
trailing edges, you have your work cut out for you, because they will
flutter. Gare-on-teed. Plan on it.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
JetPilot wrote:
>
> Has anyone ever had control surface flutter in a Kolb ? Or the warning signs
of flutter such as them starting to buzz at high speeds ? I am planning on putting
electric trim tabs on all the control surfaces which will add a little
weight to them on the trailing edge (about 8 ounces each), but im hoping not enough
weight to induce flutter. Any information or experience on flutter on
Kolbs would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Michael A. Bigelow
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> NO FEAR - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!!
>
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| Subject: | Re: Control Surface Flutter ???? |
| From: | "John Bickham" <gearbender(at)bellsouth.net> |
Experienced my one and only flutter on my third test flight. That was plenty for
me. The ailerons on my Mark III went into serious flutter when I reached about
72 MPH indicated. It happens very quickly and can be a bit violent. The
five seconds it took to recognize the problem, reduce power and climb a bit to
bleed off speed was way to long when the whole plane is shaking. One might
think that a firm grip on the stick could bring the flutter under control. Not
so. Something is going to break if you try to stop it. Your arm or metal.
It is very powerful and will scare the *#%$ out of you. Ordered the counterbalances
that day. Kept flying till installed, just stayed away from that speed.
No problem since, at or above that speed.
As far as the extra weight. I had none. I did use Aerothane which is a bit heavier.
--------
Thanks too much,
John Bickham
Mark III-C
Using my Repairman Certificate
St. Francisville, LA
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Line Bubbles |
| From: | "John Bickham" <gearbender(at)bellsouth.net> |
Hey Ron,
I had a similar experience with my 912/EIS. I'm just throwing this out for you
to consider. I had the same problem. Low pressure alarms. Couldn't find the
problem. Went looking for vapor lock, etc. Put fire sleeve on lines, rerouted,
pull hair out, and on and on.
It ended up being my radio!!!!! [Shocked]
My antenea wire and some of the wires from the EIS sensors shared about 12" in
the nose cone. Weird thing is that it never happened on the ground. Not sure
why that was. It always happened at the same place, and power settings as I
made calls for the pattern. Seperated the wires and no more fuel pressure problems.
Boy did I feel dumb.
Just might want to consider that if you run out of ideas on the little bubbles.
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Thanks too much,
John Bickham
Mark III-C
Using my Repairman Certificate
St. Francisville, LA
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| From: | Robert Laird <rlaird(at)cavediver.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Those flashing & blinking & blinking and flashing! |
NOTAMs are _supposed_ to provide up-to-the-minute (well, day, anyway) info
on towers, and are best searched for by airport identifier... for example,
when I looked at the NOTAMs for my home airport, I saw this:
TOWER 440 (375 AGL) 12 E LGTS OTS (ASR 1048128) WIE UNTIL 25 FEB 22:30
But, as everyone has noted, you can't rely on this or any other method than
"see and avoid". Basically, you want to tool around in the airspace, you
need to keep your eyes open for other objects in that same space. There is
no other guaranteed method.
-- Robert
On 2/17/06, flht99reh wrote:
>
>
> That was part of what I was trying to convey in my post. The chart is the
> best we have available, but no guarantee. And if your craft or someone's
> did
> hit a tower, I guess it would be your burden to prove it wasn't on the
> chart, you couldn't see it, no one could see it, it wasn't lit! I agree
> wit
> you. But you at least found out who was the responsible Gov org to
> contact.
> Unless you are able to walk up to a tower and get its 'Tower number" even
> if
> you contacted the official party in charge, you would need give them the
> Lat
> & Lon or the Tower number. Still no guarantee since they are only a
> Government 'Suggesting" authority in the instance of towers.
>
> Ralph of Ohio
>
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| From: | Richard Pike <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
| Subject: | Firestar tail question |
One of our locals has an older Firestar, about an 1988 model, and he
recently had to repair the lower tailwheel section under the tail, the
tailwheel diagonal strut had corroded badly due to the area having no
vent holes. He is repairing it and has said that he does not intend to
recover it, but leave it open. We talked about this and it came up that
not covering it may be a poor idea inasmuch as this section probably
adds to the total vertical tail surface area, and the airplane may be
somewhat less directionally stable without this area covered.
Does anyone have any first hand knowledge of this that I can pass on to him?
Thanks
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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| From: | "flht99reh" <flht99reh(at)netzero.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Those flashing & blinking & blinking and flashing! |
WELL......................................I.................never......!
Sorry, I looked everywhere I could and all I found was what I shared and a
letter to the save the bird people from the FAA stating that they "can't and
don't regulate but only suggest", regarding towers.
Man, do I feel in the crapper with this one. I tell-ya-kids, anyone that
doesn't think this is the best informed most polite aviation site on the
internet is missing the plane. See, you didn't say "you stupid idiot" or"
you ignorant twit" or any of the other great one-liners that would have been
exuded by the world when the vultures see a limping rat on the ground. Thank
you.
Because of your kind response of correction out of love, I have moved your
name to the list previously shared by John Houck and Pat from over there.
And to the board, I apologize for my ignorance, but thank you for your input
, now I'm going out and find my battery operated suicide kit, and practice
(gonna remove the battery)! HA, HA!
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Williamson
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 10:10 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Those flashing & blinking & blinking and flashing!
Hi Ralph,
You must be having one of those days!
The requirements for marking, painting and lighting of towers is very
specific.
The FCC is the controlling authority:
http://www.fcc.gov/mb/policy/dtv/lighting.html
http://www.access.gpo.gov/nara/cfr/waisidx_05/47cfr17_05.html
The FAA has several Advisory Circulars that cover the subject and are made
binding by the FCC:
http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgAdvisoryCircular
.nsf/0/736f762742f45ab9862569ee0077ef5e/$FILE/AC70-7460-1K.pdf
http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgAdvisoryCircular
.nsf/0/fd38311187c8a5da86256c690074ffda/$FILE/150-5345-43e.pdf
If you go to these links and do the reading, you will have way more
knowledge that needed by a pilot.
--------
John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolbra, 912ULS
http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot1
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=12794#12794
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Those flashing & blinking & blinking and flashing! |
Towers are like trees and power lines. Lots more trees and power
lines, although it seems towers are gaining on them. Folks fly into
trees and power lines all the time. Occasionally, they fly into
towers, most often, I would guess, during IMC flight.
I do a lot of flying, the majority, in the realm of the tower. I
prefer flying lower, rather than higher. I know better than put all
my confidence in a sectional chart or the obstacle avoidance feature
which is new to my Garmin 196 GPS. The reason is all towers don't get
put on the sectionals or the obstacle avoidance system. It is the one
that gets forgotten that will get me. As Ray Anderson says, "Keep
your head on a swivel."
I like the new obstacle avoidance feature. It is a big help keeping
me clear of towers. However, every once in a while I will detect a
tower that is not showing on the display. If is is close by my line
of flight it send a chill down my spine. That is the scary one.
Local area flying, if you fly often enough, you can keep up with what
is and what isn't in your area. Cross country flying is another ball
game when it comes to towers.
john h
MKIII/912ULS
hauck's holler, alabama
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| From: | "flht99reh" <flht99reh(at)netzero.net> |
| Subject: | Those flashing & blinking & blinking and flashing! |
John, I'm glad you responded. The more I learn about flying, charts, air
speed, instrumentation, clouds, altitude and wind the greater my
appreciation grows for those of you that do some distance flying on a
somewhat regular basis. As a humble man that you are, I appreciate the ways
that you present your position on issues, that's why you're at the top as
the reference point to compare others responses.
I look at my local chart which because of my particular location (Columbus
Ohio area) requires two sectional maps and my head swims. I don't profess to
grasp as much as I used to in my youth, yet I'm still open minded enough to
be willing to swallow my pride and learn from others, therefore, there is
hope. I want to absorb as much information from people like yourself as
possible because it does reduce the growth cycle time, even though personal
experience stays longer, entrenches deeper and is a better testimony than
telling someone that "someone else told me so". Like John Williamson's
response to me on the tower issue, or Ray Andersons about the swiveling head
(I seem to have a bobbing head at times), or Robert Laird and the NOTAM's
(wish I could afford some of these goodies), or even Michael Sharps off site
e-mail, all helpful, informative and educational, and funny. And all out of
kindness and love and respect. There is something about talking with men
that have been in the trenches that makes getting into the trenches a lot
easier. It is about the sharing of wisdom, mistakes, pictures, fun and
problems that help grow a sport, hobby, or interest to a point that others
want to be a part of it. That is what you John and so many others like you
do and because of individuals like Matt did in putting this site together,
which make this one of the fastest growing closest knit bunch (verses
gander) of flier sites around. Thank you all.
Ohio Ralph
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hauck
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Those flashing & blinking & blinking and flashing!
Towers are like trees and power lines. Lots more trees and power
lines, although it seems towers are gaining on them. Folks fly into
trees and power lines all the time. Occasionally, they fly into
towers, most often, I would guess, during IMC flight.
I do a lot of flying, the majority, in the realm of the tower. I
prefer flying lower, rather than higher. I know better than put all
my confidence in a sectional chart or the obstacle avoidance feature
which is new to my Garmin 196 GPS. The reason is all towers don't get
put on the sectionals or the obstacle avoidance system. It is the one
that gets forgotten that will get me. As Ray Anderson says, "Keep
your head on a swivel."
I like the new obstacle avoidance feature. It is a big help keeping
me clear of towers. However, every once in a while I will detect a
tower that is not showing on the display. If is is close by my line
of flight it send a chill down my spine. That is the scary one.
Cross country flying is another ball
game when it comes to towers.
john h
MKIII/912ULS
hauck's holler, alabama
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| From: | Robert Laird <rlaird(at)cavediver.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Those flashing & blinking & blinking and flashing! |
On 2/17/06, flht99reh wrote:
>
>
> or Robert Laird and the NOTAM's
> (wish I could afford some of these goodies)
No cost involved... go to: http://www.faa.gov/ntap/
-- Robert
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| From: | "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier(at)cableone.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Those flashing & blinking & blinking and flashing! |
Ralph,
A couple of years ago when Copperstate was being held at Phoenix
Regional Airport, I complained to the management about a high (?) tower
located a relatively short distance from the field and it had no lights. It
sure seemed to me that a tower that high should have a strobe or something
on it. T'wernt nothin they could do about it. Seems to me that its an
accident/lawsuit waiting to happen.
AzDave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)netzero.com>
>
January 29, 2006 - February 17, 2006
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