Kolb-Archive.digest.vol-gb
May 12, 2006 - June 06, 2006
> only as humor, I'm sure). Be glad we had some resources to waste - as
> our national pasttime - sixty or so years back.
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> And maybe our history books are a little revisionist, but I never had
> the impression King George "allowed" us to keep our little colonies.
> We fought for 'em!
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> What was it the Brits used to say about US troops? Something like
> "Over-paid, over-sexed, and .. over HERE"? Typical British gratitude.
> I know, what you really meant to say was "The Germans are kicking our
> a##es. Thanks for helping out."
>
> As for the French .. we agree. :-)
>
> If I've misinterpreted your meaning, my apologies. I just have grown
> a little weary of US-bashing. Better if we stick to subjects we all
> agree on .. like Kolbs.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=34241#34241
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Redundancy.. ITm not gonna repeat myself ! |
----- Original Message -----
From: "robert bean" <slyck(at)frontiernet.net>
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Redundancy.. ITm not gonna repeat myself !
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| Inappropriate.
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| On 12, May 2006, at 10:52 AM, jadamson wrote:
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| > Pat wrote ".. I think it comes from having far more than your fair
| > share of the worlds resources. Wasting things is a national
pastime.
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| > I take it you meant this as humor. If, OTOH, you meant this as a
| > social comment, then I don't appreciate it. The US gives a
helluva
| > lot more of its resources to the rest of the world than the rest
of
| > the world combined! And, as thanks, usually get back the kind of
| > thankless comments typified by your post (which, of course, you
meant
| > only as humor, I'm sure). Be glad we had some resources to
waste - as
| > our national pasttime - sixty or so years back.
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had
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colonies.
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| > "Over-paid, over-sexed, and .. over HERE"? Typical British
gratitude.
| > I know, what you really meant to say was "The Germans are kicking
our
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| > As for the French .. we agree. :-)
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| From: | "Possum" <possums(at)mindspring.com> |
(quote)I have recently been in the County of Kent, which was in the =
forefront of the Battle of Britain, and the local brewer has marketed a =
`Spitfire Ale` under the banner `The Bottle of Britain` (read that =
carefully). One ad. showed three glasses of beer. One full, one half =
full and one empty with the caption Goering....Goering...Gone. Also a =
couple of great posters. One reading `Spitfire Ale. Downed all over =
Kent, just like the Luftwaffe` and one stating `No other Fokker comes =
close`(quote)
I like this one.
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| Subject: | Re: Redundancy.. ITm not gonna repeat myself ! |
| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
> I take it you meant this as humor. If, OTOH, you meant this as a social comment,
then I don't appreciate it.
[Evil or Very Mad] [Evil or Very Mad]
[Wink]
The next one of you maroons that pick on my Identical twin Brother Patt will have
me to deal with and I know where everyone of you lives! :x I don't care how
tough you might think you are, worst case scenario, when you knock me out I
will fall, ALL 230 pounds of me directly on your centerline! [Laughing]
That said, Patt was responding to MY earlier comment. I believe he may have thought
he was responding to me off site. Sorry if it ticked off any of you other
red blooded Americans. [Rolling Eyes]
Ralph, up in arms in Ohio, Hoover
Can you people imagine how absolutely dry and boring this Kolb site would be without
the humor of the Patt Ladds and the Buffords and the John Jumgs, and the....
[Idea]
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| Subject: | Re: Redundancy.. ITm not gonna repeat myself ! |
| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
For those interested, the below is what Patt responded to. NOT an attack on American
values. I started the ruckus and I'm big enough to apologies! [Embarassed]
So this ends the renewed war with England....Now somebody play a Roger Whittaker
song for Patt! :P [Twisted Evil]
The real confusion is that I started this thread and now there are 3 or 4 areas
where the responses go. Matt, any help here? [Idea]
Cornfused here in Ohio Ralph!
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Well, Pat, Your back.
Pat, first thing that you have to understand is that were "yanks" and here in yank
land we like excess. Thats why advertising is working so well.
Ask yourself this question:
Where else in the world would or could a human being buy a Cadillac pick-up truck?
And why? I mean, if you want to remodel a room, hauling the 2x4s in the back
of your Caddy is like the cats meow!
But seriously folks, two cylinders, two carbs, twin plugs, two mags. Why not two
fuel supplies. Just to be sure. But in the case I outlined, it may have been
the reason for the problem. Both fuel pumps worked then and still do now but
alas, no fuel.
Ohio Ralph
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| Subject: | Re: Redundancy.. I am not gonna repeat myself ! but I am gonna |
| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
Eugene, I believe that the reason John didn't write anything was because it was
1500 and dark as night. He couldn't see his hand in front of his keyboard. I
guess we're all taken aback by his utter failure to utter!
Speaking of John, I'll bet he could tell us, as many others could the reason why
the only fuel check valve, working in our pressure range, in our fuel mixture
(ring-a-ding fuel), that I could only locate ONE check valve and its $ 50.00
EACH!
I mean, after looking at Parker, Swaglock and 24 pages of internet under the description
of "Fuel Check Valve", that was the only one and that through Spruce.
Is there anything else out there? Oh, there are a few from the automotive racing
community but the breakaway pressures are out of our range and there are
the go carts but they don't intentionally get off the ground. there are aslo the
hobby scale planes and outboard motorboaters, but again their land bound and
plastic and differing in pressures. Any help out there? Or did we use up this
thread?
Cheap skate Ohio Ralph
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Speaking of John, I'll bet he could tell us, as many others could
the reason why the only fuel check valve, working in our pressure
range, in our fuel mixture (ring-a-ding fuel), that I could only
locate ONE check valve and its $ 50.00 EACH!
|
| Cheap skate Ohio Ralph
What do you want a check valve for? If you have a Mikuni and a Facet,
you already have four, two in each pump.
KISS
john h
mkIII
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| From: | Charlie England <ceengland(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Redundancy.. I am not gonna repeat myself ! but I |
am gonna
Ralph Hoover wrote:
>
>Eugene, I believe that the reason John didn't write anything was because it was
1500 and dark as night. He couldn't see his hand in front of his keyboard. I
guess we're all taken aback by his utter failure to utter!
>
>
>Speaking of John, I'll bet he could tell us, as many others could the reason why
the only fuel check valve, working in our pressure range, in our fuel mixture
(ring-a-ding fuel), that I could only locate ONE check valve and its $ 50.00
EACH!
>
>I mean, after looking at Parker, Swaglock and 24 pages of internet under the description
of "Fuel Check Valve", that was the only one and that through Spruce.
Is there anything else out there? Oh, there are a few from the automotive racing
community but the breakaway pressures are out of our range and there are
the go carts but they don't intentionally get off the ground. there are aslo
the hobby scale planes and outboard motorboaters, but again their land bound and
plastic and differing in pressures. Any help out there? Or did we use up this
thread?
>
>Cheap skate Ohio Ralph
>
I haven't followed this thread too closely, but if you're using Facet
electric pumps, several models have integral check valves.
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| Subject: | Re: Redundancy.. I am not gonna repeat myself ! but I am gonna |
| From: | "Dave Bigelow" <up_country(at)hotmail.com> |
Ralph,
California Power Systems sells fuel system check valves for about six dollars each.
Another reason for plumbing your redundant fuel system with two pumps in parallel
- if one pump shoots craps in a series installation, the remaining pump has
to pull fuel throught the dead pump (and check valves). Don't be stubborn about
this guys, just because you did it wrong and haven't had a problem yet. That's
probably because you haven't had either pump fail yet. This is an issue
that has been throughly debated over the years in aviation circles. The designers
put them in parallel unless the electric pump at the fuel tank is remotely
located at a distance from the engine pump.
Think about it as related to a two stroke powered Kolb. You have a pulse powered
engine pump that is rated to lift fuel no more than 39 inches. You have fuel
tanks that are at least 30 inches lower than the engine pump. Fail the electric
pump in a series installation, and you are asking the engine pump already
operating near the design limit to pull fuel through the failed pump and its
two internal check valves. You are better off to forget the electric pump entirely
than to plumb them in series.
If this logic is lost on you, read the Rotax installation manual. It says to plumb
the pumps in parallel.
--------
Dave Bigelow
Kamuela, Hawaii
FS2, Rotax 503 DCDI
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| Subject: | Re: Personalized "Kolb list" (Matt) |
Mike you can do this yourself by adding a few rules in your outlook program
without having to bother Matt about it.
In a message dated 5/13/2006 8:40:15 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
planecrazzzy(at)yahoo.com writes:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Mike Pierzina
Hey Matt,
My Dish satilite has the option of selecting "my favorites".....I don't have
to flip thru "ALL" the channels
to get to the ones "I" watch.....
My E-mail has the option of "blocking" people that I don't care to hear
from.....
Why can't you make the Kolb list ( and your other forums) where they can
have this same option....
Then we can personalize our own Kolb list..... If somebody doesn't like
others opinions.....They can "Block"
them from "Their" Kolb list........Your the computer Guru.....Make it Happen
( Please )
I'm sure John Hauck would be on everybody's list.....I'm sure "I"
wouldn't....
Then people wouldn't have to leave the list because they can't stand
somebody...( it happens alot )
Waiting for your reply...
Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Redundancy.. I am not gonna repeat myself ! but I am |
gonna
| Another reason for plumbing your redundant fuel system with two
pumps in parallel - if one pump shoots craps in a series installation,
the remaining pump has to pull fuel throught the dead pump (and check
valves). Don't be stubborn about this guys, just because you did it
wrong and haven't had a problem yet. That's probably because you
haven't had either pump fail yet. This is an issue that has been
throughly debated over the years in aviation circles. The designers
put them in parallel unless the electric pump at the fuel tank is
remotely located at a distance from the engine pump.
|
| Think about it as related to a two stroke powered Kolb. You have a
pulse powered engine pump that is rated to lift fuel no more than 39
inches. You have fuel tanks that are at least 30 inches lower than
the engine pump. Fail the electric pump in a series installation, and
you are asking the engine pump already operating near the design limit
to pull fuel through the failed pump and its two internal check
valves. You are better off to forget the electric pump entirely than
to plumb them in series.
|
| If this logic is lost on you, read the Rotax installation manual.
It says to plumb the pumps in parallel.
|
| --------
| Dave Bigelow
| Kamuela, Hawaii
| FS2, Rotax 503 DCDI
Dave/Ralph/Gang:
I plumbed my two strokes (Ultrastar had two mikunis/FS had Facet and
mikuni) in series, as I do my 4 stroke.
Lost the "no name" electric pump on the FS, and the little Mikuni kept
on pumping.
Was my procedure to shut down the electric pump after reaching
altitude. Little Mikuni pulled fuel through the dead electric pump
for 755 hours without a burp or slurp.
Same, same the 4 stroke, pushing 2,500 hours.
It works, and it works well.
If for some reason the Facet sticks one of its two check valves in the
closed position, I will experience fuel starvation. Chances of the
engine driven pump sticking one of its two check valves is nearly
impossible on the four stroke, and impossible on the two stroke pump
(valves are fabric on the Mikuni).
Really don't see that I am doing it wrong. I am doing it my way.
There are other problems that can and have put me down, like a plugged
fuel filter. Simply sampling fuel after taking on fuel would have
prevented two forced landings on my part. Pilot responsiblity, and I
was totally wrong both occasions.
You can plumb your airplane anyway you want to. It will be fine with
me. I will not tell you, you are wrong for doing so.
Adding additional check valves increases the amount of resistance the
remaining operational fuel pump must work through should one fail.
The Rotax Installation Manual for the 912ULS calls for a return fuel
line to the fuel tank. It is not required by practical experience,
even though the book says to use one.
Fuel line leaks??? Possible if you don't check clamps and physical
condition of your fuel hoses. Clear plastic fuel lines are known not
to have much longevity and fail quite often. Urethane fuel line
usually fails on the pulse line from engine to pump. Pays to reach up
there and pull on the clear line, even when it looks good. Might be
surprised when it pulls off in your hand. Went to Gates heavy duty
neoprene fuel line many years ago. Haven't had any problems, and it
lasts for many, many hours.
Again, I am not telling anyone else to do it the way I do. Simply
sharing the way I do it, one way that works well for me.
Still trying not to complicate the system. ;-)
john h
mkIII 2,468.1 hours
912ULS 1,122.2 hours
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| From: | "Denny Rowe" <rowedl(at)highstream.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Redundancy.. I am not gonna repeat myself ! but I am |
gonna
Low pressure check valve?
See McMasterCarr.com
I got the one I put on my Mk-3 from them and it was very reasonable.
Make sure you get one with the Viton seal .
Denny rowe
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com>
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 10:19 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Redundancy.. I am not gonna repeat myself ! but I am
gonna
>
>
> Eugene, I believe that the reason John didn't write anything was because
> it was 1500 and dark as night. He couldn't see his hand in front of his
> keyboard. I guess we're all taken aback by his utter failure to utter!
>
>
> Speaking of John, I'll bet he could tell us, as many others could the
> reason why the only fuel check valve, working in our pressure range, in
> our fuel mixture (ring-a-ding fuel), that I could only locate ONE check
> valve and its $ 50.00 EACH!
>
> I mean, after looking at Parker, Swaglock and 24 pages of internet under
> the description of "Fuel Check Valve", that was the only one and that
> through Spruce. Is there anything else out there? Oh, there are a few from
> the automotive racing community but the breakaway pressures are out of our
> range and there are the go carts but they don't intentionally get off the
> ground. there are aslo the hobby scale planes and outboard motorboaters,
> but again their land bound and plastic and differing in pressures. Any
> help out there? Or did we use up this thread?
>
> Cheap skate Ohio Ralph
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=34358#34358
>
>
> --
>
>
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| From: | "Denny Rowe" <rowedl(at)highstream.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Redundancy.. I am not gonna repeat myself ! but I |
am gonna
> Someone wrote:
> I haven't followed this thread too closely, but if you're using Facet
> electric pumps, several models have integral check valves.
>
>
> I could hardly blow through my Facet pump when it was new so I got a good
> check valve from McMaster-Carr with a real low opening pressure and I do
> not have to worry about the Facet resticting fuel when it is off.
Denny Rowe
>
>
> --
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
|
| Roger that
Will:
Good on ya, pardner!
Must say I miss the excitement involved in serious cross country
flying in a FS and a two stroke. Cut my cross country teeth on them a
few years ago.
Have a super, safe flight, Will!
john h
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
|
| .........and the best chile rellenos anywhere. :-) Do
not
| Archive.
Gang:
The old Garmin GPS 196 is updated, both Jeppesen and Obstacle
Clearance.
Some time back John W informed me that I was legal to fly with updated
Jep Data Base, even though my sectionals were out of date. That
covers the MKIII for insurance purposes, and keeps me relatively safe
from landing at what I think are uncontrolled airports that suddenly
sprout an operational control tower. Ooooops!
The Obstacle Data Base is not 100%, but it is much better than flying
low level without that capability.
GPS has made our sport much, much safer. Saves a lot of time and fuel
navigating cross country. Would be hard to go back to the sectional
and mag compass.
Chile Rellenos are one of my favorite. Will give them a try when I
get to Gouldings.
Take care,
john h
hauck's holler, alabama
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| Subject: | Re: Personalized "Kolb list" (Matt) |
| From: | "jadamson" <j-adamson(at)tamu.edu> |
If you get posts via email, then you can set the filters in your email client (Outlook,
Outlook Express, Thunderbird, whatever) to block specific content. The
filters in some clients are sometimes called "rules".
If, OTOH, you look at the email list via the web, that's a different deal. I believe
Matt or someone would have to write some code that allows a logged-in user
to have a "blocked" list. Probably wouldn't work for "guests", tho.
Could be done but, jeez, is it really necessary? We all have a choice in this,
whether it's to read what a given person posts and/or whether or not we want
to reply to it, etc etc. BS can always just be ignored.
John A (TX)
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John A (TX)
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| From: | "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1(at)yahoo.com> |
Hi All,
I'll be leaving Tucson in my Mark III with a Zenith 701. Will pick up another Zenith
701 in Payson, AZ. The 3 of us will leave the Tucson area around 0500 hrs.
Thursday and be in MV about 1200 hrs. A Rans S12 should also be flying up Friday
from the Tucson area. Looks like fun in the sun.
Roger Lee
Tucson, AZ.
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Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
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| From: | "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM(at)comcast.net> |
All MV 2006 attendees
I hope everyone has another wonderful trip to Monument Valley this year. I
can't describe how much I'm going to miss it this year. I was only there one
year and didn't have my plane there but it was very special. I will miss
giving Big Lar a rough time, the great photo flight I had with Dave in his
Cessna and all the great people that attended last year. MAYBE next year I
will figure a way to get my plane out there.
Everyone have a safe trip I will be waiting for reports.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MV 2006
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| Subject: | Re: Redundancy.. I am not gonna repeat myself ! but I am gonna |
| From: | "Dave Bigelow" <up_country(at)hotmail.com> |
Ralph,
My CPS catalog is a couple of years old, but the plastic check valve is listed
as part number 7234 for $6.95.
I must have missed your first post. Did you have a pump failure in a parallel
plumbed system where the check valves in the failed pump also failed?
I have my electric pump mounted next to and level with the bottom of my fuel tanks,
so it gets to be a "pressure pump". It would be best if the Mikuni pulse
pump could also be mounted at that level, but the pulse line length from the
crankcase is limited to 20 inches in length. I hadn't thought of it previously,
but you could use a length of copper tubing for most of the run to the fuel
tank with a short lenth of the normal flexible tubing at either end (total flex
not to exceed 20 inches).
In my previous post, I forgot to add the fuel filter to list of restrictions that
the Mikuni must "suck" through with a failed series installation.
--------
Dave Bigelow
Kamuela, Hawaii
FS2, Rotax 503 DCDI
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| Subject: | Re: Redundancy.. I am not gonna repeat myself ! but I am gonna |
| From: | "Dave Bigelow" <up_country(at)hotmail.com> |
John,
I'm not trying to tell anyone what to do - only share what I know to be an accepted
aviation practice. I'm glad you had a really good Mikuni that pulled fuel
succesfully through a dead electric pump for many hours. Most of the time those
little pumps do great.
This list is only a very small little piece of the aviation world. There's a lot
of lessons that have been learned the hard way over the years, and that's the
reason for "accepted practices". The sharing of that information is one of
the primary reasons this list exists. Untimately, each builder and operator
can sift throught the info here and plumb his fuel system any way he wants.
>From my Rotax Installation manual on page 15-1:
"If the fuel tank is considerably lower than the engine, an electric pump should
be used. The pump is to be connected in parallel...."
--------
Dave Bigelow
Kamuela, Hawaii
FS2, Rotax 503 DCDI
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| From: | ElleryWeld(at)aol.com |
I am sure all that are attending MV will have a safe trip and I wish all of
you great weather for the event ( wishing I had time to make it myself )
After working on the big airliners that I have been working on lately with my
new job the More I realize how much better a Kolb is built really its kind
of scary how these big birds are built things are so delicate
and have a safe trip back home with great weather as well
I'll be looking forward to the pictures and all you guys have to say about
the MV Kolb Gathering
Ellery in Maine in a well built Firestar
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| From: | "Larry Bourne" <biglar(at)gogittum.com> |
Dunno if I can speak for the others, but I'm like a little kid. Excitement
is building, anticipation the same. My living room is a mess with stuff
already being sorted and mulled over. Sigh........just 4 more days till I
leave.......after work on Wed. Lar. Do not
Archive.
----- Original Message -----
From: <ElleryWeld(at)aol.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 3:03 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MV 2006
>
> I am sure all that are attending MV will have a safe trip and I wish all
> of
> you great weather for the event ( wishing I had time to make it myself )
> After working on the big airliners that I have been working on lately with
> my
> new job the More I realize how much better a Kolb is built really its
> kind
> of scary how these big birds are built things are so delicate
> and have a safe trip back home with great weather as well
> I'll be looking forward to the pictures and all you guys have to say about
> the MV Kolb Gathering
>
> Ellery in Maine in a well built Firestar
>
>
>
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| From: | "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1(at)yahoo.com> |
Hi Everyone,
Checked the ten day forcast. Highs are supposed to be around 83-85 and lows around
53-55. I believe this is ten degrees cooler than last year. Should make for
some nice flying weather. The people from Arizona will have to wear a jacket
in the mornings. The people from the east and north will probably think it's
summer at 55 degrees. (burrrr) LOL
Rain percentage is 10-20%, which translates out here to "no rain".
Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
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Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
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| From: | "Gary Thacker" <gbthacker(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | Exact length of a Firestar 11......thumbs |
Can anyone tell me the exact length of a Firestar 11?
Gary
Souderton,Pa.
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| From: | Lanny Fetterman <donaho(at)csrlink.net> |
| Subject: | HELP, I`m so confused |
Hi All, First the good news, I had my airworthiness inspection done on
Friday and passed with flying colors. Now the confusing part. I wanted to
be in the armature built category so I could do my own maintenance and
inspections. However the FAA inspector said that I would need a private
pilot license to fly the FS II if I went that route. If I wanted a private
ticket, I would have done that twenty two years ago when I started flying.
So I changed my course of action.My next choice was ELSA, He recommended
that route, however now I would need to take the 16 hour repairmen`s
course, and get what he called a ELSA pilot`s license from a flight
instructor. He felt that would take about twenty hours of instruction to
get. ( He said that a Sport Pilot license ( which I almost have) would not
qualify me to fly the FSII in that category.) The closest repairman course
I can find is in Fredricksburg Md. A three day course, three hours away for
$300.00 plus lodging. Pretty steep price to do the same things I have been
doing for the past 10 years since I built the FSII. As for the ELSA pilot
license, I don`t know how much that would cost, But I don`t think twenty
hours of instruction will be cheap, once again this is required to fly the
same aircraft I have been flying for the past ten years. I tried to find
info. on the Internet about the ELSA pilot license, since this was the
first time I had heard of it, but I found nothing. My questions are as
follows, Is what I was told accurate information? And secondly does anyone
have a ELSA pilot license that can enlighten me about that? Thank you in
advance. Lanny Fetterman N598LF P.S.
The inspector was a very nice guy and did his best to explain things to me,
however, I apparently had a lot of misconceptions.
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: HELP, I`m so confused |
In a message dated 5/14/2006 11:31:30 AM Eastern Standard Time,
donaho(at)csrlink.net writes:
Now the confusing part. I wanted to
be in the armature built category so I could do my own maintenance and
inspections. However the FAA inspector said that I would need a private
pilot license to fly the FS II if I went that route.
I'm sure that more knowledgeable folks will reply, buy I'm sure he's wrong.
We have several arouind here going that route.
Howard Shackleford
FS II
SC
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| From: | "David Lehman" <david(at)davidlehman.net> |
| Subject: | Re: HELP, I`m so confused |
The inspector is wrong... As long as the airplane meets the "Sport
Aircraft" criteria, i.e. weight, seats, fixed gear, number of engines, etc.=
,
it can be operated with a Sport Pilot or higher certificate, i.e. Private,
Commercial, etc...
DVD
On 5/14/06, HShack(at)aol.com wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 5/14/2006 11:31:30 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> donaho(at)csrlink.net writes:
> Now the confusing part. I wanted to
> be in the armature built category so I could do my own maintenance and
> inspections. However the FAA inspector said that I would need a private
> pilot license to fly the FS II if I went that route.
>
> I'm sure that more knowledgeable folks will reply, buy I'm sure he's
> wrong.
> We have several arouind here going that route.
>
> Howard Shackleford
> FS II
> SC
>
>
=
=
=
=
>
>
--
=F4=BF=F4 "Failure lies not in falling down. Failure lies in not getting u=
p."
(traditional Chinese proverb)
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier(at)cableone.net> |
| Subject: | Re: HELP, I`m so confused |
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lanny Fetterman" <donaho(at)csrlink.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: HELP, I`m so confused
My next choice was ELSA, He recommended that route, however now I would need
to take the 16 hour repairmen`s
> course
Lanny,
Your inspector is wrong but I think has inadvertantly done you a favor.
Yes, it'll cost you $300+ to attend the repairman's course, but having your
Firestar registered as ELSA will allow whoever you sell it to to attend the
same course and do his own inspections and repair. This makes your Firestar
much more valuable when you sell it. That's the way I look at it.
He felt that would take about twenty hours of instruction to
> get. ( He said that a Sport Pilot license ( which I almost have) would not
> qualify me to fly the FSII in that category.)
I don't know where he is getting his info, but that's what the Sport Pilot's
license is all about. You don't need a Private Pilot's license to fly a
Sport Pilot eligible airplane. Sport Pilots can fly anything that meets the
ELSA criteria including Taylorcrafts, Erucoupes, etc. as long as they fit
into the Sport Pilot category and a Firestar surely does. Now there are a
couple of endorsements you may need to fly certain aircraft, e.g. over 87
knots, etc.
The closest repairman course I can find is in Fredricksburg Md. A three day
course, three hours away for
> $300.00 plus lodging.
I'm kinda in the same boat. I got my airworthiness certificate a couple of
weeks ago and need to attend the Repairman's course. The nearest one I know
of in in Riverside Calif and I live in Prescott, Az. But since the Kolb was
inspected a couple of weeks ago, I figure I don't need an annual until next
May. There are more and more Repairman's courses coming on all the time so
I'm waiting to see if someone starts one closer to me and cheaper during the
next 12 months.
As for the ELSA pilot license, I don`t know how much that would cost, But I
don`t think twenty
> hours of instruction will be cheap, once again this is required to fly the
> same aircraft I have been flying for the past ten years.
You said above that you almost have your Sport Pilot's license. I don't
know what you mean by that but here's some info for you. If you are a
registered pilot with either EAA, ASC, or USUA, all you need is a letter
from them stating you were registered before 9/04 and then you can take the
Sport Pilot written and practical tests without any further training. I've
passed the written but am taking more training because I'm not very good at
ground reference maneuvers and things like that.
If you are not registered with one of these orgainzations, then you can
still save money by registering. This is because if you arre registered
after 9/04 then you can take 17 of the required 20 hours with an Ultralight
instructor and the last three hours with a Sport Pilot instructor. This
should save you $$$ because in my experience Ultralight instruction will be
cheaper. Now I'm not 100% sure of this last bit of info, but everything
I've checked out verifies it - you need to verify it with one of the
orgainzations if this is the route you want to take.
Be aware that all of this is out the window, GONE, after January 31, 2007.
After that time everyone will have to take 20 hours minimum of instruction
from a Sport Pilot instructor.
I tried to find info. on the Internet about the ELSA pilot license, since
this was the
> first time I had heard of it, but I found nothing.
Go to Google and look up the EAA, Aero Sport Connection (ASC) or US
Ultralight Association (USUA) and you'll find info there.
Good Luck,
AzDave
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Exact length of a Firestar 11......thumbs |
| From: | "John Jung" <jrjungjr(at)yahoo.com> |
>From the specs on TNK website: Length 20 ft. 3 in. (22 ft. 6 in. folded)
--------
John Jung
Firestar II N6163J
Surprise, AZ
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=34549#34549
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "David Key" <dhkey(at)msn.com> |
| Subject: | HELP, I`m so confused |
There is no such thing as an ESLA flying license.
You fly under the sport pilot license, private or higher.
ESLA or Experimental applies to the plane.
If it is ESLA then anyone can do any repairs but you have to take the
repairmans course if you want to do the annual condition inspection.
You can fly the firestar II under the sport pilot license or higher.
I think you can fly Experimental planes under the sport pilots license if
the plane qualifies as a sport pilot plane.
I hope that didn't further confuse things.
>From: Lanny Fetterman <donaho(at)csrlink.net>
>Reply-To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
>To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
>Subject: Kolb-List: HELP, I`m so confused
>Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 11:28:03 -0400
>
>
> Hi All, First the good news, I had my airworthiness inspection done on
>Friday and passed with flying colors. Now the confusing part. I wanted to
>be in the armature built category so I could do my own maintenance and
>inspections. However the FAA inspector said that I would need a private
>pilot license to fly the FS II if I went that route. If I wanted a private
>ticket, I would have done that twenty two years ago when I started flying.
>So I changed my course of action.My next choice was ELSA, He recommended
>that route, however now I would need to take the 16 hour repairmen`s
>course, and get what he called a ELSA pilot`s license from a flight
>instructor. He felt that would take about twenty hours of instruction to
>get. ( He said that a Sport Pilot license ( which I almost have) would not
>qualify me to fly the FSII in that category.) The closest repairman course
>I can find is in Fredricksburg Md. A three day course, three hours away for
>$300.00 plus lodging. Pretty steep price to do the same things I have been
>doing for the past 10 years since I built the FSII. As for the ELSA pilot
>license, I don`t know how much that would cost, But I don`t think twenty
>hours of instruction will be cheap, once again this is required to fly the
>same aircraft I have been flying for the past ten years. I tried to find
>info. on the Internet about the ELSA pilot license, since this was the
>first time I had heard of it, but I found nothing. My questions are as
>follows, Is what I was told accurate information? And secondly does anyone
>have a ELSA pilot license that can enlighten me about that? Thank you in
>advance. Lanny Fetterman N598LF P.S.
>The inspector was a very nice guy and did his best to explain things to me,
>however, I apparently had a lot of misconceptions.
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Lanny Fetterman <donaho(at)csrlink.net> |
| Subject: | Help I`m so confused |
Dave and all, I am registered as a fixed wing pilot with the ASC, I have
passed the written test for sport pilot, and thought that all I needed to
do yet is take the practical test. I hope that I am still on the correct
path, and that the inspector was in error. I just sent this to him. Hi,
NAME DELETED I found this info on the EAA website. I think this is the way
I should go, If I can. (Aircraft with a standard airworthiness certificate
that meet above specifications ( I meet these) may be flown by sport
pilots. However, the aircraft must remain in standard category and cannot
be changed to light-sport aircraft category. Holders of a sport pilot
certificate may fly an aircraft with a standard airworthiness certificate
if it meets the definition of a light-sport aircraft) If I understand this
and other statements on this webpage, I will still need the 16 hour course
to do my inspection. but I will not need any dual instruction. A sport
pilot license ( which I almost have) is all I need. I found this info at
http://www.sportpilot.org/learn/final_rule_synopsis.html Please check this
out when you have time, and get back to me. Thank you in advance for your
help. Lanny Fetterman When he replies I`ll let the list know what I
found out.
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: HELP, I`m so confused |
| From: | "John Jung" <jrjungjr(at)yahoo.com> |
Here is where the confusion may have started: Once you license your Kolb as an
Experimental Aircraft, you cannot legally fly it until you have at least a Sport
Pilot license. As far as flying an experimental with a Sport Pilot license,
the inspector was either wrong or a whole lot of other people are all wrong.
--------
John Jung
Firestar II N6163J
Surprise, AZ
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=34553#34553
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Gary Thacker" <gbthacker(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Exact length of a Firestar 11......thumbs |
Yep thanks.....
Gary
Souderton,Pa.
>From: "John Jung" <jrjungjr(at)yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
>To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
>Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Exact length of a Firestar 11......thumbs
>Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 10:27:03 -0700
>
>
> >From the specs on TNK website: Length 20 ft. 3 in. (22 ft. 6 in.
>folded)
>
>--------
>John Jung
>Firestar II N6163J
>Surprise, AZ
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=34549#34549
>
>
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| From: | Lanny Fetterman <donaho(at)csrlink.net> |
| Subject: | HELP I`m so confused |
Thanks to all that have replied, John, I have a student pilot license, so
that I can fly legally. I thought I had all the bases covered, just one
more thing that I`m confused about. I told the inspector that the FAA needs
a flow chart to help people understand this process. He agreed, but that`s
of little help since it dosen`t exist. Lanny
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier(at)cableone.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Help I`m so confused |
> Dave and all, I am registered as a fixed wing pilot with the ASC, I have
> passed the written test for sport pilot, and thought that all I needed to
> do yet is take the practical test.
Lanny,
Assuming you were registered fixed wing with ASC before 9/04, and I
assume you were since you've passed the written test, then you're correct..
You can just take the practical test and you'll be completely legal to fly
your FS.
I hope that I am still on the correct
> path, and that the inspector was in error.
He was in error.
>However, the aircraft must remain in standard category and cannot
> be changed to light-sport aircraft category.
I've heard some people say that they were going to get theirs registered
"Experimental - Amateur Built" so they don't have to attend the 16-hour
course, then get it changed to ELSA before they sell it. NO CAN DO! See
above.
Holders of a sport pilot
> certificate may fly an aircraft with a standard airworthiness certificate
> if it meets the definition of a light-sport aircraft) If I understand this
> and other statements on this webpage, I will still need the 16 hour course
> to do my inspection. but I will not need any dual instruction. A sport
> pilot license ( which I almost have) is all I need.
You are correct.
When he replies I`ll let the list know what I
> found out.
I think many of us will be interested in his answer.
AzDave
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "David Lehman" <david(at)davidlehman.net> |
| Subject: | Re: HELP I`m so confused |
Yeah Lanny, but it will... The FAA (Flight Standards) has gone ISO
9000/QMS/ETQ and one of the basics to those alphabet processes is flow
charts... Supposedly this will have all inspectors saying the same
thing... Hmmm, do I hear an echo?... Have we heard this before and before
and before, etc...
DVD
On 5/14/06, Lanny Fetterman wrote:
>
>
> Thanks to all that have replied, John, I have a student pilot license, so
> that I can fly legally. I thought I had all the bases covered, just one
> more thing that I`m confused about. I told the inspector that the FAA
> needs
> a flow chart to help people understand this process. He agreed, but that`=
s
> of little help since it dosen`t exist. Lanny
>
>
=
=
=
=
>
>
--
=F4=BF=F4 "Failure lies not in falling down. Failure lies in not getting u=
p."
(traditional Chinese proverb)
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "David Lehman" <david(at)davidlehman.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Help I`m so confused |
Lanny, maybe I'm missing something here... If you're talking Kolb, it's no=
t
"Standard Category"... The Kolb can only be Experimantal Light Sport,
Experimantal Amateur-Built, or Experimental Exhibition...
DVD
On 5/14/06, Lanny Fetterman wrote:
>
>
> Dave and all, I am registered as a fixed wing pilot with the ASC, I have
> passed the written test for sport pilot, and thought that all I needed to
> do yet is take the practical test. I hope that I am still on the correct
> path, and that the inspector was in error. I just sent this to him. Hi,
> NAME DELETED I found this info on the EAA website. I think this is the
> way
> I should go, If I can. (Aircraft with a standard airworthiness certificat=
e
> that meet above specifications ( I meet these) may be flown by sport
> pilots. However, the aircraft must remain in standard category and cannot
> be changed to light-sport aircraft category. Holders of a sport pilot
> certificate may fly an aircraft with a standard airworthiness certificate
> if it meets the definition of a light-sport aircraft) If I understand thi=
s
> and other statements on this webpage, I will still need the 16 hour cours=
e
> to do my inspection. but I will not need any dual instruction. A sport
> pilot license ( which I almost have) is all I need. I found this info at
> http://www.sportpilot.org/learn/final_rule_synopsis.html Please check thi=
s
> out when you have time, and get back to me. Thank you in advance for your
> help. Lanny Fetterman When he replies I`ll let the list know what I
> found out.
>
>
=
=
=
=
>
>
--
=F4=BF=F4 "Failure lies not in falling down. Failure lies in not getting u=
p."
(traditional Chinese proverb)
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Lanny Fetterman <donaho(at)csrlink.net> |
| Subject: | HELP I`m so confused |
OK Let me try to pinpoint my question, Can anyone point me to a statement
that will tell me what class my Firestar II needs it`s airworthiness
certification in, so that I can fly it with a sport pilot license. The
airworthiness certificate has not been issued yet and I don`t want to be
locked in the wrong category. I will take the repairman course if need be.
It`s the dual instruction I feel is overkill since I have several hundred
hours flying ultralights. 54 of those hours in the Kolb, Lanny
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "David Lehman" <david(at)davidlehman.net> |
| Subject: | Re: HELP I`m so confused |
Lanny, I already gave them to you...
Experimental Light Sport, Experimental Amateur-Built, or Experimental
Exhibition (you don't want this one)...
DVD
On 5/14/06, Lanny Fetterman wrote:
>
>
> OK Let me try to pinpoint my question, Can anyone point me to a statement
> that will tell me what class my Firestar II needs it`s airworthiness
> certification in, so that I can fly it with a sport pilot license. The
> airworthiness certificate has not been issued yet and I don`t want to be
> locked in the wrong category. I will take the repairman course if need be=
.
> It`s the dual instruction I feel is overkill since I have several hundred
> hours flying ultralights. 54 of those hours in the Kolb, Lanny
>
>
=
=
=
=
>
>
--
=F4=BF=F4 "Failure lies not in falling down. Failure lies in not getting u=
p."
(traditional Chinese proverb)
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Wayne T. McCullough" <blackbird754(at)alltel.net> |
| Subject: | Re: HELP I`m so confused |
Ok guys,
I am building my Kolbra .....It will be in the experimental -amateur-built
category......I have assembled this aircraft and have the logbook and pics
to prove it.............I will be filling out the repairman
certificate......I will be doing the yearly inspections on this aircraft
Legally........I will be flying with a sport-pilot liscense.............I
will NOT be registering this aircraft as an LSA...............
To recieve an airworthiness certificate there is a guideline for paperwork,
and placards........This THING may look like an aircraft, but only the
designer and builder can sign-off and STATE that it will fly......The
airworthiness is the form that makes this LEGAL in the FAA's
eyes................
A gyro friend of mine had an airworthiness certificate for a Engine
stand......LOL.....when the inspector (FAA) stated that it would not fly and
refused to give it one........My friend asked what his name was to be put on
the designer listing for it.....He refused to have it stated.......BUT,
issued the airworthiness anyway.....He had to ....it is his job..........AND
it was for free........My friend had to just make an
appointment......LOL.....
True story,
By the way,
I am an EAA chapter president and stay well informed on these paperwork
matters....
What's you guys opinions?....LOL.....I read this list 3 times a
day...........
Wayne McCullough
Kolbra # 004
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Lehman" <david(at)davidlehman.net>
Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: HELP I`m so confused
>
> Lanny, I already gave them to you...
>
> Experimental Light Sport, Experimental Amateur-Built, or Experimental
> Exhibition (you don't want this one)...
>
> DVD
>
> On 5/14/06, Lanny Fetterman wrote:
>>
>>
>> OK Let me try to pinpoint my question, Can anyone point me to a statement
>> that will tell me what class my Firestar II needs it`s airworthiness
>> certification in, so that I can fly it with a sport pilot license. The
>> airworthiness certificate has not been issued yet and I don`t want to be
>> locked in the wrong category. I will take the repairman course if need
>> be=
> .
>> It`s the dual instruction I feel is overkill since I have several hundred
>> hours flying ultralights. 54 of those hours in the Kolb, Lanny
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> =
>
> =
>
> =
>
> =
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> =F4=BF=F4 "Failure lies not in falling down. Failure lies in not getting
> u=
> p."
> (traditional Chinese proverb)
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Fuel Tank Gasket Material ? |
| So I went for flat Washers.... I'm gonna "groove" them later to get
the
|
| Fuel pick-up as low as possible....
| |
| Gotta Fly...
| Mike in MN
Mike/Gang:
Everybody wants to do it their way, and I understand that. However,
there is another solution to installing outlets in the bottom of
plastic tanks, which I am assuming you are doing.
It is a very simple metal elbow and a neoprene washer that pushes into
a hole drilled into the bottom of the plastic tank. They work very
well, last for years. I have some in a 15 gal plastic gas tank I used
for hauling fuel for my FS 20 years ago. It is still usable.
Compared to the hardware you have come up with it weighs next to
nothing for a set of two for two tanks.
I am sure Travis, at Kolb, has them in stock. Tell him hauck sent
you. Will not help, but tell him anyhow.
Take care,
john h
mkIII
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Steven Green" <Kolbdriver(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Fuel Tank Gasket Material ? |
Try some of the following links for materials compatability.
Steven
http://www.quickcutgasket.com/chemicalresistance.html
http://www.rfcarlson.com/RFC_%20Chemical%20Compatibility%20Chart.htm
http://www.oringsusa.com/html/fluid_compatability_of_o-rings.html
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Airgriff2(at)AOL.COM |
| Subject: | Re: HELP, I`m so confused |
Lanny and gang, most all your questions can be answered by looking on the
"sportpilot.org" web site. ELSA and SLSA are the two ways to buy one of the
new "certified light sport aircraft's". ELSA is the kit form and SLSA (special
light sport aircraft) is complete ready to fly. There was a time frame for you
to get credit for all the flying as an ultrlight pilot towards your sport
pilot rating. You can check to see if that has gone by or not? It is also my
understanding that any licensed A&P can inspect any of the LSA's or Experimental
as in the past. There are new courses out to allow an owner of a LSA to do
work and inspections on their aircraft and also 120 hr courses to do work and
inspections on any LSA.
Hope this helps
Fly Safe
Bob Griffin
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Thom Riddle <jtriddle(at)adelphia.net> |
| Subject: | Re: HELP I`m so confused |
... inspected by someone certificated as a repairman for that make and
model?
Wrong, it must be the owner of the plane....
The LSA Repairman Certificate has two possible ratings. The 16 hour
course is for Inspection and applies only to an E-LSA that the
repairman owns. The other rating (Maintenance) is a much longer course
but entitles its holder to do inspections on any E-LSA or S-LSA and
charge for his services, if he so desires. It is sort of like a junior
A&P ticket limited to LSA. The LSA Repairman Certificate with
Maintenance Rating also allows its holder to do any prescribed
maintenance on any S-LSA in the class (airplane, for example) that the
Repairman Certificate applies to, and that the manufacturer explicitly
states is permitted. He can charge for this service as well.
For aircraft registered as Exp. Amateur Built, there are only two kinds
of people that are legally allowed to do annual condition inspections.
One is the person with the Repairman Certificate specific to that
aircraft (the builder) or any A&P mechanic. Maintenance on Exp Am-built
aircraft can be done by its owner even if he did not build it.
Regardless of which registration is done, it must stay with that type
of registration for as long as the aircraft lives. It cannot be
changed from either to the other.
Regardless of which registration is used, as long as it does not exceed
any of the limitations for LSA, any pilot rated Sport or higher can fly
it AFTER it has been inspected, and where applicable, the phase one
testing is completed. I THINK (not certain) that if it is exp-am-built
the phase one testing must be done by a Private Pilot or higher but if
it is E-LSA then a Sport Pilot can fly it immediately after its
inspection.
Thom in Buffalo
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Robert Laird" <rlaird(at)cavediver.com> |
| Subject: | Re: HELP I`m so confused |
On 5/15/06, Thom Riddle wrote:
>
> Regardless of which registration is done, it must stay with that type
> of registration for as long as the aircraft lives. It cannot be
> changed from either to the other.
A subtle exception to this rule: if someone buys an SLSA and then
decides they want to do the maintenance for it (assuming they take the
LS-I course), then they can request that it be changed from an SLSA to
an ELSA.
> Regardless of which registration is used, as long as it does not exceed
> any of the limitations for LSA, any pilot rated Sport or higher can fly
> it AFTER it has been inspected, and where applicable, the phase one
> testing is completed. I THINK (not certain) that if it is exp-am-built
> the phase one testing must be done by a Private Pilot or higher but if
> it is E-LSA then a Sport Pilot can fly it immediately after its
> inspection.
Another point; if the aircraft is a fomer "fat ultralight" and you
have, say, 100 hours of flying time in it, and when it's converted to
an E-LSA, and the operating limitations say you must fly it for, say,
5 hours for Phase I testing, then you ALREADY have more than 5 hours
of flying it, so your Phase I testing is complete. The key to this is
that the operating limitation do not say the 5 hours of Phase I flying
need to be done AFTER it was converted to ELSA.
I got this info in the LS-I course I took this weekend.
-- Robert
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL <Dennis.Kirby(at)kirtland.af.mil> |
<< I start the engine using only the primary pump and continue thru warm-up
and run up. Just before take off I switch on the Facet pump. After takeoff I
turn the Facet pump off. Rick Neilsen >>
This is how I used to do it. Thought I was saving wear and tear on the
Facet fuel pump. But after reading Richard Pike's enlightening post
regarding the expected operating life of the Facet fuel pump (gazillion
hours), and after hearing Rick Neilsen's account of experiencing failures in
Facet pumps in the past, I think I will change my procedures.
>From now on, I'm just gonna leave the Facet pump turned "on" for the
duration of my flying. On the 912, running both pumps in series (electric
one first, followed by the mechanical pump) does not overpressure the carbs.
Although I do not have a fuel pressure sensor, my carbs have never
experienced overpressure (with both pumps operating) sufficient to cause
fuel to overflow from the float bowls, as long as the engine is running.
Maybe the Mikuni pressure-pulse pump (on the two-stroke Rotax engines)
provides different results ... I do not know.
Dennis Kirby
Mark-III, 912ul
Getting ready to depart for Monument Valley on Thursday
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| From: | "George E. Thompson" <eagle1(at)commspeed.net> |
| Subject: | Re: HELP I`m so confused |
Say Lar. Why don't you hook up a trickle charger while you are gone to MV.
When you get back it will be charged up. Just leave it on, it wouldn't over
charge. If you don't have one, they are only about $20.
Az Bald Eagle
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Laird" <rlaird(at)cavediver.com>
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 6:11 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: HELP I`m so confused
>
> On 5/15/06, Thom Riddle wrote:
>>
>> Regardless of which registration is done, it must stay with that type
>> of registration for as long as the aircraft lives. It cannot be
>> changed from either to the other.
>
> A subtle exception to this rule: if someone buys an SLSA and then
> decides they want to do the maintenance for it (assuming they take the
> LS-I course), then they can request that it be changed from an SLSA to
> an ELSA.
>
>> Regardless of which registration is used, as long as it does not exceed
>> any of the limitations for LSA, any pilot rated Sport or higher can fly
>> it AFTER it has been inspected, and where applicable, the phase one
>> testing is completed. I THINK (not certain) that if it is exp-am-built
>> the phase one testing must be done by a Private Pilot or higher but if
>> it is E-LSA then a Sport Pilot can fly it immediately after its
>> inspection.
>
> Another point; if the aircraft is a fomer "fat ultralight" and you
> have, say, 100 hours of flying time in it, and when it's converted to
> an E-LSA, and the operating limitations say you must fly it for, say,
> 5 hours for Phase I testing, then you ALREADY have more than 5 hours
> of flying it, so your Phase I testing is complete. The key to this is
> that the operating limitation do not say the 5 hours of Phase I flying
> need to be done AFTER it was converted to ELSA.
>
> I got this info in the LS-I course I took this weekend.
>
> -- Robert
>
>
> --
>
>
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| From: | "Bob Brocious" <bbrocious(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | 2003 Mark III For Sale |
Folks,
My 2003 Kolb Mark III, Miss B is for sale.
TT airframe 44 hours
TT engine 4+ hours (582 zero-timed by Alan Layman, Solo Aviation, Rotax
Repair Station
EIS Electronic Information System with altimeter
Airspeed indicator
Turn and bank
Dual sticks
Bicycle type hand brake on pilot's stick
Dual headsets and intercom
Wired with Hot box for strobes
Most often asked questions:
Why are you selling? I am in the midst of building a new house for by bride
of 31 years who has endured 5 years of living in a mobile home on our farm.
My daughter is also getting married this December 21st. I need to free up
some cash, so Miss B needs a new home.
Why was the engine overhauled? The engine came with no documented history.
It quit on me once shortly after take off. I returned to the runway and
decided I would never fly with an undocumented engine nor would I ever sell
one. It was determined that the engine quit due to garbage in the carbs.
Price: $18,900 firm. I have lots of pictures and probably one of the best
builder documented aircraft around. She is licensed experimental. N57MB.
Drop me an email or call my cell phone. I'm in north central Kentucky.
(502) 417-8197. You can read a story about Miss B in the September issue of
Experimenter Magazine.
Bob
Bob Brocious
Tenacity Farm
Carrollton, Kentucky
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| Subject: | Re: 2003 Mark III For Sale |
| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
Bob, That is an admirable thing you do for your loved ones. I admire that. And
with the cost of weddings today, you do your daughter a great tribute. Tell her
to advise her other half he better be appreciative of this woman and make her
a keeper, or you know a lot of pilots that will come down and whop his hind
end. Or just take him on a long flight! Ha, Ha!
Someday, perhaps you may have the opportunity to be back in the P.I.C. saddle again.
I hope your loved one appreciate what you are doing.
Numb for words here in Ohio Ralph!
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| Subject: | Re: Personalized "Kolb list" (Matt) |
| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
WHERE IS THE LOVE IN BLOCKING PEOPLE? Whops I didn't mean to shout. We are family,
my Kolber buddies and me!
Frankly I love hearing differing views (sometimes refered to as love bickering).
Sure as I am Ohio Ralph, someone that has something important to my specific
interest or need would be an individual that I might otherwise disagree with,
therefore block and regret their importance later. NO ONE here has value-less
information or opinions or views! Except perhaps me, and I can take the punishment!
Now gimme some love here. If the House and Senate can get along, surely we can.
And by the way, I hope none of you guys chased away my identical twin brother
Patt Ladd! That would make me grate my teeth, which by the way, I do anyway!
Peace sign on Ohio Ralph!
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| From: | "Jeremy Casey" <n79rt(at)kilocharlie.us> |
| Subject: | 2003 Mark III For Sale |
My daughter is also getting married this December 21st. I need to free
up
some cash, so Miss B needs a new home.
Bob
Make the offer my daddy-in-law did...if they want a REALLY SMALL chapel
wedding (immediate family only) then write them a check for about 50% of
what the big wedding would have cost and let them take a really nice
honeymoon!!! My bride opted for the big wedding, but after all the
stress of the big wedding we both agreed later that a nice long
stress-free honeymoon would have been better...and saved daddy-in-law
about 3-4 grand... ;-)
Jeremy "older and wiser" Casey
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| From: | "John Jung" <jrjungjr(at)yahoo.com> |
MV Group,
I am packing the motorhome today. Kathy and I plan to drive to Monument Valley
on Friday. It will be the first stop of our summer vacation. No Firestar this
year, but at least we will make it. Looking forward to seeing you all there.
John Jung
--------
John Jung
Firestar II N6163J
Surprise, AZ
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| From: | Mike Schnabel <tnfirestar2(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: MV 2006 and question from Japan |
Good morning gang,
Sounds like everyone is gearing up for a great visit to MV, I hope maybe i can
swing the vacation time to visit myself next year, The stories and the pictures
make it sound like an amazing place to visit!
But for this year i am stuck on a work assignment for the next month or so in
Japan so can only dream about flying for now, Which leads to my question, does
anyone know of any Kolb or other ultralight flyiers here in Japan? I have been
searching for some places they might fly from with no luck so far. But i am
sure that anywhere there is a sky to look up at there are wistful souls yearning
to fly! I will keep on trying. If i find any i will send some photos.
To all heading to MV or any destination, fly and drive safely and have a great
time! And please share your adventures when you return!
Mike S
Manchester, TN
Firestar 2 503
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| Subject: | Nows a good time to talk about all them MV fliers! |
| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
Ok, Anybody? [Twisted Evil] They won't have a clue, Shush! We will keep it to
ourselves. [Rolling Eyes] I mean, all the food, drink and pictures they will
be having too good a time to think about us common Kolbers.
[Idea] Anything anybody might have that they were afraid to share [Crying or Very
sad] or ask while the experts were around, nows a good time to ask [Shocked]
. I don't think anyone left will have any answers, but we will be the smartest
ones around won't we?
:P [Shocked] [Laughing] [Wink] King of the hill in Ohio Ralph! At least temporary
[Twisted Evil]
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| From: | "Larry Bourne" <biglar(at)gogittum.com> |
| Subject: | Re: MV 2006 and question from Japan |
Good on you, Richard. Me an' the archives don't get along too well. Hope
all this helps that fella. Lar. Do not
Archive.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MV 2006 and question from Japan
>
> Found him in the archives, his name is apparently Sada,
> his email is apparently
> phoenix(at)ja2.so-net.ne.jp
>
> Good luck
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
> Larry Bourne wrote:
>>
>> There was a post-er from Japan some time ago........several years ?? Not
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| From: | "Robert Laird" <rlaird(at)cavediver.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Nows a good time to talk about all them MV fliers! |
>From those of us who still don't use the forums, I'd just like to make
sure all you guys who DO use the forum and use all the "emoticons"...
well, this is what we see:
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ok, Anybody? [ T w i s t e d E v i l ] They won't have a clue,
Shush! We will keep it to ourselves. [ R o l l i n g E y e s ] I
mean, all the food, drink and pictures they will be having too good a
time to think about us common Kolbers. etc.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
It's a little bizarre, if you ask me. So, maybe you can hold off on
using all those little happy- and non-happy-faces.
-- Robert
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| Subject: | Re: Nows a good time to talk about all them MV fliers! |
| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
"It's a little bizarre, if you ask me. So, maybe you can hold off on
using all those little happy- and non-happy-faces."
Well Robert, I was just taking advantage of the tools to the left so that no body
thought that I was being mean or disrespectful to the MV'er's!
There seemed to be a lot of very easy to upset people that fly Kolbs. It is better
in my opinion than SHOUTING, or the acronyms like LOL or IMO or other tidbits
that take my mind longer to decipher than if they would have used the actual
words.
But I know what your saying, snicker, snicker, about idea, devil, question mark,
all the dumb faces to the left. I will make every effort to make my posts in
the future, dry, unencumbered, emotionless and intellectually dry humor, whilst
attempting to convey love, thought, conniving and emotional manipulations!
We'll leave a light " [Idea] " on for the MV boys!
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| From: | "Robert Laird" <rlaird(at)cavediver.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Nows a good time to talk about all them MV fliers! |
Ralph --
I fully understand the desire and intent on using the available
emoticons, so don't get me wrong. And I appreciate your attempt at
keeping things light... I've seen more than my share of
misunderstandings. Communication via email is fraught with danger.
However, I also believe just a modicum of forethought before writing
is all that's needed to convey the proper idea(s) without offending.
Unfortunately, most people don't expend the effort, so that makes the
emoticons very tempting, indeed. I've been known to use the
happy-face/unhappy-face/wink from time to time, but if one of those
three doesn't do the trick, I doubt any other more convoluted icons
will help.
My complaint wasn't in your (or anyones') use of the emoticons, it was
the way the forum software interprets it for the non-forum users. My
intent in bringing it up was only to make those who use them aware of
their bizarre interpretation to text.
Frankly, I would (and do) easily suffer through those odd entries in
order to partake of your wisdom and humor!
-- Robert
On 5/17/06, Ralph Hoover wrote:
>
> "It's a little bizarre, if you ask me. So, maybe you can hold off on
> using all those little happy- and non-happy-faces."
>
> Well Robert, I was just taking advantage of the tools to the left so that no
body thought that I was being mean or disrespectful to the MV'er's!
>
> There seemed to be a lot of very easy to upset people that fly Kolbs. It is better
in my opinion than SHOUTING, or the acronyms like LOL or IMO or other tidbits
that take my mind longer to decipher than if they would have used the actual
words.
>
> But I know what your saying, snicker, snicker, about idea, devil, question mark,
all the dumb faces to the left. I will make every effort to make my posts
in the future, dry, unencumbered, emotionless and intellectually dry humor, whilst
attempting to convey love, thought, conniving and emotional manipulations!
>
> We'll leave a light " [Idea] " on for the MV boys!
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=34983#34983
>
>
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| From: | "Todd Potter" <tpotter(at)kolpinpowersports.com> |
| Subject: | For Sale: - KOLB FIRESTAR KXP WITH NEW 24' ENCLOSED TRAILER |
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| Subject: | Re: 2003 Mark III For Sale |
| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
Well Dennis, If Bob ever comes to central Ohio (Columbus area), he will be more
than welcome to fly my Firestar single with 503. You too if you come back around.
You were here during the second coming of the space people in the hanger
in Dayton. quoye: "When I lived in Dayton in the mid 80s" Thats odd. Ha, Ha!
Your problem was you were love blinded. Thats different than old Bob. He kew better
and was still in control of his scruples and still made that decission! Ha!
Quote: "Must've worked - we're still married! " So was she the better investment?
And does she still have the Hope Diamond?
Waiting here in Ohio Ralph!
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| From: | possums <possums(at)mindspring.com> |
At 09:45 AM 5/17/2006, you wrote:
>However, I also believe just a modicum of forethought before writing
>is all that's needed to convey the proper idea(s) without offending.
>Unfortunately, most people don't expend the effort, so that makes the
>emoticons very tempting, indeed. I've been known to use the
>happy-face/unhappy-face/wink from time to time, but if one of those
>three doesn't do the trick, I doubt any other more convoluted icons
>will help.
-------------
However, I also believe just a modicum of forethought before writing
is all that's needed to convey the proper idea(s) without offending.
Unfortunately, most people don't expend the effort, so that makes the
emoticons very tempting, indeed. I've been known to use the
happy-face/unhappy-face/wink from time to time, but if one of those
three doesn't do the trick, I doubt any other more convoluted icons
will help.
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| From: | possums <possums(at)mindspring.com> |
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park. I've been substance-free for 23 days. I have the ability to
construct complex sentences with big words. Seeking SWF with money.
Send pictures of your house. Let's cut to the chase ladies, I need a
girl to get me a beer once in a while. Come on over. I'll buy you a
burger, or something. Interested? (sigh) I didn't think so. No pets
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| From: | possums <possums(at)mindspring.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Test - Copy & Paste from "Word" |
At 09:06 PM 5/17/2006, you wrote:
>
>Brother Possum Sullivan....
>Would have recognized you anywhere... please don't apologize.. we're
>all in this
>together... the part about the squirrel gave you away...
>Oh yeah... almost forgot... I plan to fly the Kolb this weekend... if
>it'l start....
>...this is definitely Kolb-related...
>Beauford
>(P.S. whattya suppose they REALLY do out there at MV.....?
>hmmm...?
I don't know for sure But:
I'm going to be 56 years old pretty soon and MV
is a long, long way from here..
Everybody knows I've been around for a while, but I started young.
Last year 56 was the new 46. Because at 46, you
start slowing down a little bit,
but you=92re still pretty good? So - what=92s odd is by the time I'm 60,
60 will be the new 40; so actually, I'm going to get
younger as I go, right - right?
As far as camping goes ' I'm no Grizzley Adams
One thing I've discovered is that
=93Grown men should never - ever - share Tents=94
I personally camp with individual tents, you know -
I want the =93Power Rangers Tent=94 you can have the
=93My Pretty Pony Tent=94 etc.
Then as "men", we can kind of let ourselves go and get back
to the "Drum Banging, Rock Clacking" stage.
Only thing is, after 3 or 4 nights, we start
wearing less and less clothes, drinking beer and
holding each other, weeping, and saying things
like ' "There's nothing wrong with you -
there's nothing wrong with you! I loooove you man. You had me at Hello."
Anyway, I'm not a camper.... Not there's anything wrong with that!
I'm sure they have fun out there.
>
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| From: | possums <possums(at)mindspring.com> |
| Subject: | Test - Copy & Paste from "Word" |
>One thing I've discovered is that
>=93Grown men should never - ever - share Tents=94
>I personally camp with individual tents, you know -
>I want the =93Power Rangers Tent=94 you can have the
>=93My Pretty Pony Tent=94 etc.
>Then as "men", we can kind of let ourselves go and get back
>to the "Drum Banging, Rock Clacking" stage.
See !! - I told you it would happen - all that =93 and =94
stuff!. That wasn't what I sent.
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| Subject: | Re: Test - Copy & Paste from "Word" |
| From: | "Possum" <possums(at)mindspring.com> |
Possum wrote:
> Bitter, but successful, middle aged slumlord wallowing in an unending
> sea of inert loneliness looking for 35 year old needy leech-like
> hanger-on to abuse with dull stories, tired sex and Herb Alpert
> albums.
Since everybody's gone to MV let's see if the site will take a "Word Document"
as an attachment. A "Personal Profile" I tried to help my friend with on one the
Match Maker Sites. Got lots of calls - but you know how those things go - The
girls just want to have one nighters and then never call you back - treat you
like a piece of meat.
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| From: | possums <possums(at)mindspring.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Test - Copy & Paste from "Word" |
At 11:23 PM 5/17/2006, you wrote:
From: Robert Noyer <a58r(at)verizon.net>
>looks great...none a that number stuff.
------
Ok let's see if it works on the list
-------
Greg called over the holidays - seems his
girlfriend dumped him a couple of months ago. He
works six days a week and gets groceries once a
month. Otherwise it's him and his dog I guess.
"Having a New Years party Tuesday night. Thought
you might like to stop by about 5 p.m."
"Great," I said ' heck I don=92t have anything going on.
I thought he was going to hang up when he said,
"I better warn ya ... there's gonna be some mean drinkin' goin on."
"Not a problem," I though after 20 years of
hanging around Greg, I can keep up.
Again, as I start to hang up, Greg says, "More
'n' likely gonna be some rowdy fightin' too."
"Well=94, I said =93I'm sure I can hold my own, so count me in."
Once again I=92m about to hang up and he says "More
'n likely gonna be some wild sex, too."
"Now that's really not a problem," I said. "I've
haven=92t had a date in three months! I'll
definitely be there. By the way, how should I dress?"
Greg said, "Wear whatever you want. Just gonna be the two of us."
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| From: | possums <possums(at)mindspring.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Test - Copy & Paste from "Word" |
See what I mean - it's specific to the list
Works when I send it to you, or myself, but not to the list.
>From: Robert Noyer <a58r(at)verizon.net>
> >looks great...none a that number stuff.
>------
>Ok let's see if it works on the list
>
>-------
>Greg called over the holidays - seems his
>girlfriend dumped him a couple of months ago. He
>works six days a week and gets groceries once a
>month. Otherwise it's him and his dog I guess.
>
>
>"Having a New Years party Tuesday night. Thought
>you might like to stop by about 5 p.m."
>
>"Great," I said ' heck I don=92t have anything going on.
>
>I thought he was going to hang up when he said,
>"I better warn ya ... there's gonna be some mean drinkin' goin on."
>
>"Not a problem," I though after 20 years of
>hanging around Greg, I can keep up.
>
>Again, as I start to hang up, Greg says, "More
>'n' likely gonna be some rowdy fightin' too."
>
>"Well=94, I said =93I'm sure I can hold my own, so count me in."
>
>Once again I=92m about to hang up and he says "More
>'n likely gonna be some wild sex, too."
>
>"Now that's really not a problem," I said. "I've
>haven=92t had a date in three months! I'll
>definitely be there. By the way, how should I dress?"
>
>Greg said, "Wear whatever you want. Just gonna be the two of us."
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| Subject: | Re: Angle of the Dangle... |
OK David, Try this,
1 Trace a template of your root end of your wing.
2 Make sure you also mark the front and rear mount points.
3 Cut out the template and fasten it to your fuselage.
You now have the cross section of your wing mounted on your frame and you
can set the floats in reference to that wing.
You could also use a wing rib if you had one.
Good luck, Let me know how this works.
Steve B
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| From: | "David Key" <dhkey(at)msn.com> |
| Subject: | 912 installation photos |
I am about to install a 912 on my Mark III and would like to see photos of
other installations on Mark IIIs. I want to see where the oil cooler, oil
tank, water cooler and so fourth were put.
Thanks,
David
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| From: | "Bob Brocious" <bbrocious(at)hotmail.com> |
Folks,
Thanx for the kind words about the sacrifices we make for our families. My
wife of 31 years has been most patient. As to offers to elope ... tried
that. She didn't follow the advice any better than I did 31 years ago when
my father-n-law did the same thing.
I've enjoyed my Mark III very much and got to introduce my 14 year old son
to the world of aviation while flying off our own pasture runway. It was a
dream come true. Now I need to find her a new home that will care for her
responsibily. I bet I've had no less that 50 tire kickers contact me asking
for pictures and info. I think they just collect them or enjoy talking
aviation with no intentions of buying.
If you are interested you can see our farm and the progress on our house at
www.tenacityfarm.blogspot.com
Bob
Bob Brocious
Tenacity Farm
Carrollton, Kentucky
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| Subject: | Re: Best thing next to popcorn! |
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| Subject: | Re: Nows a good time to talk about all them MV fliers! |
| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
Wow! Richard "modicum of forethought ".
Man, Possum and me feel right darned honored that you'un's would use such eliquient
words describing the efforts of Matt!
I had to look them up to see ifinn you was doin me a disservice. And youz wasn't!
Thankie.
Yes, Sir, I do understand And I am in no way insulted by your response to the little
faces or my remarks. We do need to think before hand what we are going to
say. In person, you will know by my tone or physical signals my intentions.
In word, separated by lack of visualization of my personal animation, expressions
sometimes get misread and the level of intellect involved in the individuals
that would do what we do, and more so helicopters, will be even more misread.
I see these battles take place everyday with personalities that under and other
circumstances would be admirable, but on the internet a war zone.
I love every individual on this site, the trouble makers that come in for one attack
and the repeat offenders, as well as the personalities that could blow away
the attacks by something as simple as documenting their qualifications and
backgrounds. We are in a way, soldiers in the trenches of life. We choose to
fight on the battle grounds of life a pleasure that has great cost. Life itself,
if misused. Its in our blood. Its part of us, so deeply sometimes that separating
us from it becomes mute at best. The older ones know what I am saying
and the younger ones, if they live that long will also. Life is short! Sounds
like a commercial, but its not. Keeping a friendship in something you love (for
us , flying), takes a commitment because we love doing it, and we should love
others that love doing it also. Because of individual personalities, life's
experiences, misfortunes or opportunities taken advantage of or missed, we are
here together with that same great love : flying an experimental airplane.
Ill bet that if you could look deep into the DNA of each and everyone of us, there
would be a chromosome that is shaped like an airplane or helicopter. Doctors
would marvel at the oddness of our idiocy and make every attempt to analyze
it. Insurance companies would work at removing it and the rest of the world
would beg for some of it!
In what we do, we are freaks, and for all that I have done in my life I thank God
for the freakishness in me that the world , in my time , will not understand.
But it should always allow us to love one another. Because, behind this strong
presence of our very macho, tough guy facade, lies a fragile spirit of love
and respect that only wants to give the same.
That's a wrap, here in Ohio, Ralph
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| From: | "Robert Laird" <rlaird(at)cavediver.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Nows a good time to talk about all them MV fliers! |
There's nothing you can do that can't be done.
Nothing you can sing that can't be sung.
Nothing you can say, but you can learn
How to play the game -
It's easy.
Nothing you can make that can't be made.
No one you can save that can't be saved.
Nothing you can do, but you can learn
How to be you in time -
It's easy.
All you need is love...
-- John Lennon
On 5/18/06, Ralph Hoover wrote:
>
> Wow! Richard "modicum of forethought ".
>
> Man, Possum and me feel right darned honored that you'un's would use such eliquient
words describing the efforts of Matt!
>
> I had to look them up to see ifinn you was doin me a disservice. And youz wasn't!
Thankie.
>
> Yes, Sir, I do understand And I am in no way insulted by your response to the
little faces or my remarks. We do need to think before hand what we are going
to say. In person, you will know by my tone or physical signals my intentions.
In word, separated by lack of visualization of my personal animation, expressions
sometimes get misread and the level of intellect involved in the individuals
that would do what we do, and more so helicopters, will be even more misread.
I see these battles take place everyday with personalities that under and
other circumstances would be admirable, but on the internet a war zone.
>
> I love every individual on this site, the trouble makers that come in for one
attack and the repeat offenders, as well as the personalities that could blow
away the attacks by something as simple as documenting their qualifications and
backgrounds. We are in a way, soldiers in the trenches of life. We choose to
fight on the battle grounds of life a pleasure that has great cost. Life itself,
if misused. Its in our blood. Its part of us, so deeply sometimes that
separating us from it becomes mute at best. The older ones know what I am saying
and the younger ones, if they live that long will also. Life is short! Sounds
like a commercial, but its not. Keeping a friendship in something you love
(for us , flying), takes a commitment because we love doing it, and we should
love others that love doing it also. Because of individual personalities, life's
experiences, misfortunes or opportunities taken advantage of or missed, we
are here together with that same great love : flying !
> an experimental airplane. Ill bet that if you could look deep into the DNA of
each and everyone of us, there would be a chromosome that is shaped like an
airplane or helicopter. Doctors would marvel at the oddness of our idiocy and
make every attempt to analyze it. Insurance companies would work at removing it
and the rest of the world would beg for some of it!
>
> In what we do, we are freaks, and for all that I have done in my life I thank
God for the freakishness in me that the world , in my time , will not understand.
But it should always allow us to love one another. Because, behind this
strong presence of our very macho, tough guy facade, lies a fragile spirit of
love and respect that only wants to give the same.
>
> That's a wrap, here in Ohio, Ralph
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=35252#35252
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Best thing next to popcorn! |
| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
MAtt, your looking good!
Darned, you fooled me, Thats the same picture you always use. How about some new
views, expressions, mabe a flat top haircut?
Ohio Ralph in trouble with the big guy now!
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| Subject: | Re: Test - Copy & Paste from "Word" |
| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
Quote Bitter, but successful, middle aged slumlord wallowing in an unending sea
of inert loneliness looking for 35 year old needy leech-like
hanger-on to abuse with dull stories, tired sex and Herb Alpert
albums. My interests include movies, computers, pornography and
travel. I like eating mayonnaise and peanut butter sandwiches in the
rain, watching Barney Miller reruns and peeing on pigeons in the
park. I've been substance-free for 23 days. I have the ability to
construct complex sentences with big words. Seeking SWF with money.
Send pictures of your house. Let's cut to the chase ladies, I need a
girl to get me a beer once in a while. Come on over. I'll buy you a
burger, or something. Interested? (sigh) I didn't think so. No pets
Wow, Possum, Your just the person I have been looking for. And since your tired
of sex, we don't have any problem there (I'm not plumbed that way). The pigeon
peeing I may have difficulty with as they are and endangered species in my
back yard. I have guns! Apparently the sandwich thing was a throwback of the southern
lifestyle of mothers letting their kids eat anything they wanted to. I
can't go for the mayo on peanut butter. You will probably have to change that
part. I like your sentence structure style and could live with that if wouldn't
talk all that much. I'm not sure why you would require a "girl" to get you
a beer". I can do that quite admirably and would bring one for myself also. I
hate animals, I have guns, so the no pets wouldn't be a problem. If you have any
money, my wife said its OK if you move in and buy groceries (and beer). We
like burgers and would even let you use our grill, but you would have to buy the
gas. I do have one major problem that you will have to get rid of. Barney Miller,
I know the song: I love , you love me... but that wont work here mister,
we are civilized! Other than that, bring your plane, pay your rent, but groceries
(which includes beer), no Barney, and stay away from my wife, cause, well,
I got guns! I also have the tejawanna brass!
Ready for a room mate in Ohio Ralph
God, dont let archive this.....
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| Subject: | Satellite phone or drum beat. |
| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
To all,
I'll bet you with all the technology and ego out at the MV that someone has a
satellite phone or has connections with the Indians and will somehow know that
we are talking about their trip. I'll bet they can send satellite photo's to
Matt and have them posted on this site even before they get back.
I'll bet John Hauck has connections at the pentagon and can have them e-mailed
to all of us. Whacha-wanna-bet?
I just realized, I used words like satellite and pentigon and John Hauck. I know
now that there watching me!
Covert here in Ohio Ralph
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| Subject: | Re: HELP, I`m so confused |
| From: | "Possum" <possums(at)mindspring.com> |
Bob Griffin wrote:
> Lanny and gang, most all your questions can be answered by looking on the "sportpilot.org"
web site. ELSA and SLSA are the two ways to buy one of the new "certified
light sport aircraft's". ELSA is the kit form and SLSA is complete
ready to fly. There was a time frame for you to get credit for all the flying
as an ultrlight pilot towards your sport pilot rating. It is also my understanding
that any licensed A&P can inspect any of the LSA's or Experimental as in
the past. There are new courses out to allow an owner of a LSA to do work and
inspections on their aircraft and also 120 hr courses to do work and inspections
on any LSA.
>
I'm I going to really going to have to do this stuff after flying illegal/fat for
the last 20 years?
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| From: | willuribe(at)aol.com |
I made it as far as Belen, NM tomorrow I will make it to MV.
Regards,
Will Uribe
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| From: | "Vic Peters" <vicsvinyl(at)verizon.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Best thing next to popcorn! |
Pat Wrote
I dont want to start WW3
I'd say your right Pat. Based on documentary's I've seen on the telly here
and what limited amount I really understand. Hitler didn't care about lives
only strategy.
Vic
N40KX 912ul
Maine
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| From: | "David Lehman" <david(at)davidlehman.net> |
| Subject: | A Place To Fly Your Kolb... |
This is a webcam in Talkeetna, Alaska pointed toward Denali... The cam
automatically refreshes... When it's clear (usually late afternoons), it's
beautiful...
http://64.4.235.10/popup.html
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=F4=BF=F4 "Ultralight flying isn't about transportation; it's about the ma=
gic of
pure, simple flight." - Scott Wilcox
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| From: | "ron wehba" <rwehba(at)cebridge.net> |
i have been gone for about a week and turned off all email except the
kolb list here and yahoo groups, now after I turned everything back on
,,not getting any yahoo group mail any ideas, have checked that all is
on and restarted my system..help
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| From: | Robert Noyer <a58r(at)verizon.net> |
Rev Pike,
Fine by me. Thanks
regards,
Bob N.
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/
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| From: | Rick Miles <ultrastarrick(at)yahoo.com> |
I discoverd that landing in 4 foot tall hay field is not good on the ultrastar.
bent the nose and fliped on her back sould be fixed by the end of the week.
I was going to raze the nose 11 inch to make it paralel to flight any coments
on this?
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| From: | "George Bass" <gtb(at)commspeed.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Nows a good time to talk about all them MV fliers! |
Mr. Hoover;
Whether you know it or not, you have the "Right Stuff". Anyone who
could
state the feelings, deductions, directions, doubts and desires, as well
as you
have, is a "front runner" on my list.
I've been flying (off & on) since 1980, but, never achieved a pilot's
license, and
have tried seriously, on several occassions. Each time, something came
to
my life that would detour my path. I now have over 250 hours PIC in GA
craft
and another 260 hours in UL craft. The last time I tried to finish, I
got as far
as the oral exam and my instructor, who is now flying with an airline,
stated
that the examiner actually asked questions that (many of them) that the
CFI
had never heard of and would not have know how to answer them. I
decided
to forget the damn thing and fly whatever, whenever, I could. I've
been a paid
member in USUA since 1984 and have the 20 year pin and certificate to
prove
it. About 2.5 years ago I flew the Grand Champion UL at Copperstate
Fly-in
for the builder (he hadn't flown in 18 years, but, WOW what a builder).
I've never owned a plane, never built one, and have never had the money
to
purchase one, but, I get pure enjoyment from watching, reading, and
dreaming
along with these lists and the people that create, fly, experiment and
develop
the planes that I love. It is almost as good as the comraderie at an
airfield.
You have just stated what most of us know, but, either choose to avoid
it or
simply do not have the faculties to express it, and for that, seeing it
in print,
I commend you.
Thank you,
George Bass
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| Subject: | Re: Nows a good time to talk about all them MV fliers! |
| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
Jerb, It is precisely the part you speak of:
"Tip over and fall many times then suddenly all
of a sudden it just comes to you and you ride away, kind of shaky but
staying on it upright."
I only have one Kolb and one body! ha, ha!
"I found that same magic moment occurred when it came near my soloing."
You know that I still feel the feelings of the first time I rode a bike, just like
it was yesterday. And I feel about (excuse this unmanly word) "giddy" about
my first flight, though I have played it over and over in my dreams. I get us
in the morning making airplane sounds, my wife says it sounds more like snoring
and I have to correct her into understanding that these are two-cycle and
sound very much like snoring!
"Just like riding a bike, it all came together all at
once. Like the bike that first day I wasn't ready to ride between
two closely spaced trees on the first day. Like the bike, I found no
problem landing the plane thereafter. "
And you know, I know exactly what your saying. I am becoming again childlike in
this new, yet old interest. But is sure feels good to hear it repeated and stated
with the confidence you fellows state it with. I told my instructor that
it may take me longer than most to get into my own Kolb, but when I am there,
look out. I will fly often and well!
I hope that our brothers in flight are having good weather, great companionship
and healthy planes to fly in. I hope John gets his hot sauces and his stomach
holds up well, but then again, he used to fly helicopters. I hope all the others
are enjoying their trip out and back and would pray for their safe return.
Ohio Ralph
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| Subject: | Re: My First "Fly-in" |
| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
I' matie, I seees that ol Ralph has the signature hat of the pirates life on him.
He must be a member of that roustbout flying club using the one legged, one
eyed, one handed frog as their luckey charm. So's, pass another pint of grog
and tell the crew the capin be up to water skying after lunch in the skiff!
Ohio Ralph
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| From: | "Chris Mallory" <wcm(at)tampabay.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Emergency landing in water |
Ellery,
Do you have any pictures of a Firestar on floats.
If you do would you please post then on or off list.
Thanks
Chris Mallory
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| From: | ElleryWeld(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Emergency landing in water |
these are not to good but it gives you an idea
Ellery
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| From: | "David Lehman" <david(at)davidlehman.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Emergency landing in water |
Look here at Steve Boetto's beautiful Firefly on floats, it's the
inspiration for my Firestar on floats...
http://www.skyshops.org/FLOATSHOME/floats%20kob%20firefly.htm
David
On 5/21/06, ElleryWeld(at)aol.com wrote:
>
>
> these are not to good but it gives you an idea
>
> Ellery
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"Ultralight flying isn't about transportation; it's about the ma
gic of
pure, simple flight." - Scott Wilcox
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| From: | ElleryWeld(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Emergency landing in water |
Yea I have seen Steve Boettos firefly on floats
Ellery
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| From: | jerb <ulflyer(at)verizon.net> |
| Subject: | Site with interesting photos of the month |
Here's a site with some interesting photos.
jerb
http://www.eaa724.org/PhotoOfMonth.html
http://www.eaa724.org/Resources/HandPropPhoto.html
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| From: | willuribe(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: MV 2006 |
Greetings everyone,
Departed MV on Sunday and got as far as Grants, NM. Today it is raining so it looks
like I will be here another night. FireStar is running good.
Regards,
Will Uribe
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| From: | "pat ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Best thing next to popcorn |
possible reason for the US Pacific commander not giving supply aid to the
Brits during WW2.>>
Sorry this is going to the whole list but you didnt include your address.
Other lists which I am on respond to `Reply` by sending the reply to the
sender NOT to the whole list. If you want to include the whole list then it
must be c.c A better system I think.
Hi Edward,
thats interesting. Not heard it before. Perhaps it was because we didn`t
have much to start with. The Lend Lease programme was an incredible gesture
but in spite of that there were niggles, on both sides no doubt. The one
which usually comes up is the trade you made by letting us have 13
superannuated destroyers that would only just float and took in return all
our holdings, bases etc in the Carribean. This at a time when we were
losing thousands of tons of shipping ( and crews) to the U boats every
month. Tough business.
You seem to have quite a sprinkling of Brit hating Commanders. The guy who
controlled your coastal shipping refused to adopt the convoy system for
months because we suggested it. There was no way any Brit was going to tell
him how to run things.! This of course cost many lives (yours) which is a
high price to pay just from spite.
Another great gesture was the Marshall Plan. This was set up to get Europe
back on its feet at the end of the war. Unfortunately England which had been
knocked about by bombers in the early days and by doodlebugs and V2`s
towards the end of the war was excluded. The upshot was that we, with our
production entirely centred on war material and with old repaired machinery
and buildings left over from 6 years of war found ouselves in competition
with brand new factories and machinery in Europe all supplied by the US.
Made our recovery from the war long and hard. We still had sweet rationing 6
years after the war and food rationing went on for several years after the
end of hostilities.
I have a friend who was in Germany during the Allies advance. In the area in
which he worked there was a rebellion of the German workers because the
Russians were taking all the machinery from their factories. My friend
contacted his HQ for instructions and was told `Let the Russians have it.
There are ships in Antwerp full of new machinery which we will be sending up
shortly.` All very well but Birmingham and Manchester and Coventry which had
been bombed to bits and still had machinery held together with baling wire,
got nothing.
Glad you enjoyed your trip to the UK. If you are coming West on your next
trip, Bath, Salisbury, Stonehenge, the Cotswolds area get in touch perhaps
we can have a beer together..
Cheers
Pat
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| From: | "Bob Brocious" <bbrocious(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | Miss B FOR SALE website |
For those interested, I've put up a website with photos of Miss B and
frequently asked questions.
http://kolb-mark-3.blogspot.com
Bob Brocious
Tenacity Farm
Carrollton, Kentucky
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Matronics BBS Forums |
Hello Listers,
I just wanted to send out a reminder to all of the Listers regarding the new-ish
BBS (Bulletin Board System) Forums that are available at Matronics for the Email
Lists. The BBS Forums give you Web-based access into the same email content
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List forum section on in the BBS Forums. By the same token, when a message is
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Basically, the BBS Forums give you yet another method of accessing the Matronics
Email List content. Some people prefer email, some prefer web forums; now you
can have it either way or both with the Matronics Lists!
You'll have to register for a login/password on the BBS Forum to _post_ from the
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Register for an account, look for the link at the top of the main BBS Forum
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If you haven't yet taken a look at the Matronics Email List content over on the
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Thanks for all the great list participation and support; it is greatly appreciated!
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| From: | Masqqqqqqq(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Emergency landing in water |
Landing on water is a scenario that I've gone through in my mind a
hundred times, but never actually done. If I know i'm going to be flying over
water, I always wear a lightweight kayaking life jacket.
I fly an UltraStar with no enclosure. One of the methods I've
considered is to unbuckle, toss my helmet, and just before the machine touches
water,
just get out. Can't be much different than falling off water skis.
Another method, and probably the best idea, is to deploy the BRS. Won't
flip, cuz you're coming straight down. And the chute is going to be ruined by
the water anyway, might as well use it. And if the plane sinks, maybe all
those lines connected to it might aid recovery.
Of course, until it happens, if it happens, I'll never know how I'll
react.
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| Subject: | Gentlemen, Check your tailwheels! |
| From: | "R. Hankins" <rphanks(at)grantspass.com> |
I have had a very fortunate incident. A week ago Saturday my tailwheel assy broke.
I had flown for 2.6hrs, done three off field landings and returned home without
incident. I folded up as I always do, but as I slipped the hairpin clip
into the wingfold tube on the second wing, both wingtips hit the ground. The
down tube that the tail wheel is mounted on folded back.
Inspection shows that there had been a crack on the edge of the weld underneath
the crossbar at the leading edge of the downtube for a while (no rust, but darkened
metal.) After the days flying and 322hrs, the extra weight of the wings
on the tailwheel spread the crack to the end of the tube and that was that.
I have since tigged up a new one with thicker 4130 tubing using ER80S-D2 filler
rod and some pre-heat. The new one is painted a light color so that any cracks
will show up easily.
Just a heads up to the list. Chances are there may be other cracks out there.
I have included a couple of pictures below.
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Roger in Oregon
1992 KXP 503
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| From: | possums <possums(at)mindspring.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Gentlemen, Check your tailwheels! |
At 12:25 AM 5/23/2006, you wrote:
>
>I have had a very fortunate incident. A week ago Saturday my
>tailwheel assy broke.
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Yes Sir - Me too.
Modified tail wheel assembly. Took this picture in 1999 - before I went flying.
Second flight - and it fell-off in the air somewhere?
"You" might notice that the axle has already slipped half out of the
bracket (I didn't).
I was just taking pictures of my new plane for the "Kolb List".
Forgot the cotter pins. No harm done....grass strip.
There goes another $5 "grocery cart" wheel and a $20's worth of bearings.
http://www.mindspring.com/~possums/Tailwheel.jpg
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| Subject: | Re: Emergency landing in water |
| From: | "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com> |
I bet with those skis on your firestar you could do a pretty good landing on the
water, then just sink when you lose the last little bit of speed [Laughing]
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"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
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| Subject: | Re: bent ultrastar |
| From: | "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com> |
Pulling the BRS for an engine failure is a bad idea. There is no guarantee of
a good deployment, it can tangle in the prop etc. etc. The BRS is a good last
resort, but only if there is no other way to save yourself, there are just
to many things that can go very wrong in a BRS deployment. Now instead of
maybe bending your airplane you may be looking at hitting the earth very out of
control and losing your life [Shocked]
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"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
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| From: | "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Electric fuel pump installation |
I'd ordered almost everything on my list to do a parallel Facet fuel pump o
n
my MkIII, when I came to check valves. The nice person at CPS informed me
that they had stopped carrying the little cheap plastic jobs because their
inferior quality made them dangerous. It was then that I realized that a
primer bulb has check valves in both ends. It will be a clunky install, but
it gets the job done. Functionality wins over elegance again.
--
Rick Girard
"Pining for a home on the Range"
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| From: | "Robert Laird" <rlaird(at)cavediver.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Electric fuel pump installation |
I haven't confirmed it myself, but supposedly both pumps already have
check valves in them, so you won't need another point-of-failure
(primer bulb). (I do know my Facet pump has check valves in it, I'm
just not sure about the mechanical pump.)
-- Robert
On 5/23/06, Richard Girard wrote:
>
> I'd ordered almost everything on my list to do a parallel Facet fuel pump o
> n
> my MkIII, when I came to check valves. The nice person at CPS informed me
> that they had stopped carrying the little cheap plastic jobs because their
> inferior quality made them dangerous. It was then that I realized that a
> primer bulb has check valves in both ends. It will be a clunky install, but
> it gets the job done. Functionality wins over elegance again.
>
> --
> Rick Girard
> "Pining for a home on the Range"
>
>
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| From: | "John Murr" <jdm(at)wideworld.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Electric fuel pump installation |
Aren't the check valves in the primer bulb prone to failure? I was told
this some time ago and incorporated a bypass loop around the bulb. When I
squeeze the bulb I pinch the bypass shut to force the fuel to the carbs.
I'm looking at adding a pump also as a backup. Id be interested in knowing
what check valves you find and how reliable they are.
John Murr
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 1:33 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Electric fuel pump installation
>
> I'd ordered almost everything on my list to do a parallel Facet fuel pump
> o
> n
> my MkIII, when I came to check valves. The nice person at CPS informed me
> that they had stopped carrying the little cheap plastic jobs because their
> inferior quality made them dangerous. It was then that I realized that a
> primer bulb has check valves in both ends. It will be a clunky install,
> but
> it gets the job done. Functionality wins over elegance again.
>
> --
> Rick Girard
> "Pining for a home on the Range"
>
>
>
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| From: | jerb <ulflyer(at)verizon.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Electric fuel pump installation |
This primer bulb with their "sticky" check valves have brought down
more than one plane which is why if you install one in your fuel line
it is recommended you install a bypass line around them, when you use
the primer you pinch off the by pass, although I found I didn't have
to on my plane. This is where redundancy creates more potential
problems than they solve. Remember to KISS-it.
I believe NAPA auto parts stores sell the check valves for the Facet
fuel pumps.
jerb
At 12:33 PM 5/23/2006, you wrote:
>
>I'd ordered almost everything on my list to do a parallel Facet fuel pump o
>n
>my MkIII, when I came to check valves. The nice person at CPS informed me
>that they had stopped carrying the little cheap plastic jobs because their
>inferior quality made them dangerous. It was then that I realized that a
>primer bulb has check valves in both ends. It will be a clunky install, but
>it gets the job done. Functionality wins over elegance again.
>
>--
>Rick Girard
>"Pining for a home on the Range"
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Gentlemen, Check your tailwheels! |
| From: | "R. Hankins" <rphanks(at)grantspass.com> |
[quote="You must have caught it on something" [/quote]
Not that I know of. I have come home with a few weeds in the tailwheel, but not
on this trip. The landings were off field, but not on rough ground or with
tall weeds. The crack was no older than 2 or three weeks, as I washed the plane
about that long ago, and there was no rust in the crack. In my area, bare metal
rusts in a hurry. I still can't believe it waited till I was folded to give
up. Good luck is hard to come by. I'll take it when I can get it.
Possum, What do you have for a wheel now? I was thinking of using one of those
little scooter wheels that come in cool colors.
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Roger in Oregon
1992 KXP 503
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| From: | "Larry Bourne" <biglar(at)gogittum.com> |
How long should it take to have the online email published ?? I sent a
message with a couple of pictures a few hours ago, and it still hasn't
shown up. What gives ?? Lar. Do not
Archive.
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| Subject: | Re: Gentlemen, Check your tailwheels! |
In a message dated 5/23/2006 8:18:34 PM Eastern Standard Time,
rphanks(at)grantspass.com writes:
Possum, What do you have for a wheel now? I was thinking of using one of
those little scooter wheels that come in cool colors.
That's what I use. There are 2 sizes; 100 mm & 120 mm [I think]. I used the
big one. They appear to have a good bearing in them. I believe the axle
needs to be an 8 mm bolt.
Howard Shackleford
FS II
SC
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| From: | possums <possums(at)mindspring.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Gentlemen, Check your tailwheels! |
At 08:17 PM 5/23/2006, you wrote:
>
>
>Possum, What do you have for a wheel now? I was thinking of using
>one of those little scooter wheels that come in cool colors.
Not me .... I to, have the full swivel tail wheel now - $200. Got
tired of picking the tail up
every time I wanted to get it into tight spot - my back is worth the money.
Besides - It's kinda neat to just push it around from the back - by
the prop - and
steer it with your knees. Plus - I like doing the Cub maneuver -
Lock a brake
down and spin that bad boy around into your slot at the airshows. I
was worried
about the weight (that far back), but it didn't make a bit of
difference. You young guys
use the scooter wheels -
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| From: | "Denny Rowe" <rowedl(at)highstream.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Gentlemen, Check your tailwheels! |
> Possum, What do you have for a wheel now? I was thinking of using one of
> those little scooter wheels that come in cool colors.
>
> --------
> Roger in Oregon
> 1992 KXP 503
>
> Roger,
I built a tailwheel assembly for my Mk-3 with two forks instead of one. I
also used a scooter wheel bought on sale at Walmart for $1.
The color matches my plane and I used an AN-5 bolt for the axle which is the
same as 8mm and a castle nut and cotter pin. Other than the extra fork leg
and the bolt for the axle, it looks just like the Kolb unit.
I purchased the 4130 tubing from Aircraft Spruce.
Denny Rowe
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| Subject: | Re: Electric fuel pump installation |
| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
Gosh, I really hate to start this over again, but here goes. You all right and
some of you are wrong.
NOT all facet pumps have check valves. Ask and make sure. Second, redundancy brought
down my instructors Challenger, that and a faulty internal facet check valve.
I will attempt to take pictures of my assemblies as soon as possible. I am presently
building this onto my Kolb.
Solution, at least for me as I write, I am doing this as is my instructor in his
Challenger (I in my Kolb Firestar KXP 503).
Check valves from Mc_Master Carr. Check valve is 1/8" NPT . I probably would consider
a slightly larger check valve next time because of the restriction. However,
for my instructor and myself, the system still delivered more than enough
fuel into a bucket in a given time to exceed any demand the 503 with duel carbs
will require.
7775K61
Brass Spring-Loaded Piston Check Valve 1/8" Nptf Dryseal Male Connections, Viton
Seat
$10.89 You will need two of these.
Next:
from
aircraftspruce.com
40105 40105 FACET SOL ST FUEL PUMP 2.00 0.00 28.60 you will need one if you are
also using the mechanical one that came with the engine.
04-00202 MANIFOLD AL FITTING FAB-2-0-2 2.00 0.00 12.900 Yu will need one of these.
Now what we did. You may choose to do otherwise. Connect check valve on manifold
there are as you will note 2 pieces check valve, with viton seals. One manifold.
The manifold has 5 holes. One from one end, two on top and two on bottom.
Plug side hole with 1/8" NPT pipe plug or install pressure gauge (0-6 P.S.I.)
install the check valves with any necessary elbows. Install Female 1/8" NPT
x 1/4" hose barb. TOne line goes back to a "T" at the output of the mechanical
pump on the engine. The other check valve connection goes to the electric fuel
pump. Remember to install before the suction side of both pumps, a proper filter.
Be sure to put the filter where you can look at them on some frequency.
If not you will have a new problem to deal with. Now out of the two remaining
1/8" NPT holes, install a 1/8" NPT male to 1/4" barb fitting. Install the line
from these to the two pumps.
NOW, If a pump fails ,it's pumping or lack there of will be nipped at the manifold
and the other pump will continue to do it's job.
In starting the engine, turn on electric fuel pump switch. watch gauge. It should
show pressure. Start the engine, turn off the electric fuel pump, watch gauge,
it should show pressure. Bob's your uncle.
Now this is the "skinny version". I have made a cutout in the back of my fuselage
on top and installed a door. I can remove this door and look down into the
back of the framework where I have mounted my electric fuel pump, and its fuel
filter and the fuel filter for the mechanical pump is mounted right next to it.
It doesn't get any simpler than that. I don't believe.
Had I just not posted our problem on the site, I would not have concerned myself
with this because well, the factory pump on the 503 seems to satisfy many of
the posters. And ironically many of the facet users have not faced a problem
with two pump systems. This isnt bulletproof by any stretch of the imagination,
but it is better to put check valves close to the use point than , IMHO, at
the pump.
"Disclaimer::: Warning! This is working for me. It does not mean it will work for
you. This is installed by me on my plane. My plane is an experimental. I am
experimenting. Your experimentation with like components on a like aircraft may
not deliver the same results. Certain side effects can occur, way past nose
bleeding or upset stomach. Always ask an aeronautical engineer before attempting.
Death may result in misuse! I take no credit for any of the information contained
above. There is no warranty implied or expressed. This "Warning" covers
all my responsibility and I will not become responsible for any damage derived
from the outcome of the above, even if used correctly.
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| From: | "Steven Green" <Kolbdriver(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Electric fuel pump installation |
Rick,
No need for more check valves. There is a check valve at the discharge of
each pump already.
Steven
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 1:33 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Electric fuel pump installation
>
> I'd ordered almost everything on my list to do a parallel Facet fuel pump
o
> n
> my MkIII, when I came to check valves. The nice person at CPS informed me
> that they had stopped carrying the little cheap plastic jobs because their
> inferior quality made them dangerous. It was then that I realized that a
> primer bulb has check valves in both ends. It will be a clunky install,
but
> it gets the job done. Functionality wins over elegance again.
>
> --
> Rick Girard
> "Pining for a home on the Range"
>
>
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| From: | possums <possums(at)mindspring.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Gentlemen, Check your tailwheels! |
At 10:13 PM 5/23/2006, you wrote:
>
>
> >. Got tired of picking the tail up every time I wanted to get it into tight
> >spot - You young guys use the scooter wheels -
> >
>
>Amen, brother, Amen!
>
>AzDave
See there - use old guys stick together.
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| From: | "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Gentlemen, Check your tailwheels! |
I too rejected the full swivel tail wheel due to its weight, then flip
flopped and bought the 6" version so it would be proportiional to the 18"
nerf tires on the mains. Man, it's just slick. I can lock a brake and spin
around the locked wheel, and when I want to put the plane back into its
hangar, it just swivels around and makes for very easy manuevering.
On 5/23/06, possums wrote:
>
>
> At 10:13 PM 5/23/2006, you wrote:
> >
> >
> > >. Got tired of picking the tail up every time I wanted to get it into
> tight
> > >spot - You young guys use the scooter wheels -
> > >
> >
> >Amen, brother, Amen!
> >
> >AzDave
>
> See there - use old guys stick together.
>
>
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Rick Girard
"Pining for a home on the Range"
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| Subject: | Monument Valley Test |
| From: | "biglar" <biglar(at)gogittum.com> |
Let's try another test. Here's 2 views of the sunrise at MV, and one of the view
from the hotel. Nice Place ! ! ! Lar.
--------
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk IIIC
"Vamoose"
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| Subject: | Flight with Dave Rains |
| From: | "biglar" <biglar(at)gogittum.com> |
Saturday, Dave Rains took my cousin and I for a flight over MV, then to Mexican
Hat, about 20 miles NE. Unique country.
Thanks again for the ride, Dave. Would you like me send you some of the pics from
the flight ?? Rest of the trip ??
Lar.
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Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk IIIC
"Vamoose"
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| Subject: | Muley Mesa by Road |
| From: | "biglar" <biglar(at)gogittum.com> |
After seeing the mesa from the air, we decided on a run up there in the diesel
Dodge. Interesting. The road up that hill was fun, and fine, as long as you
watch what you're doing. The dirt road to the end was fine.
Lar.
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Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk IIIC
"Vamoose"
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| Subject: | Re: Electric fuel pump installation |
| From: | "Mnflyer" <gbsb2002(at)yahoo.com> |
I am curious, I fully ubderstand the desire for dual pumps in the event that one
pump fails, but why you anyone install a paralle sytem, there by doubleing the
chances for failure, double the fuel lines and check valve that are prone to
failure generally in the open postion? A dual series system only requires an
electric fuel pump with and out put check valve a single fuel line to the pulse
pump and then on to the carbs.
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GB
MNFlyer
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| Subject: | How I spent my MV vacation - worked on fuel tank |
| From: | "John Bickham" <gearbender(at)bellsouth.net> |
Hello list,
Instead of driving to MV as I hoped, I stayed closer to home. Visited my daughter
at Eglin AFB and worked my fuel tank.
Special thanks to John & Brother Jim Hauck. This is pretty much their proven design
and my attempt to benefit from their experience. Steven Green also had
some great suggestions and was helpful.
The tank is made from 5052 - h32 .063" (1/16")Aluminum. Couldn't get any .050
around here without paying some really high freight charges. More than the cost
of the sheet. Anyway, my chances of successful welds increase with the slightly
thicker material.
I had a close friend that deals daily with an excellent fab shop brake the metal
for me. He won't tell me how much it cost to cut and brake. He wanted to do
this for me for the few favors and projects I helped him on. Kindness returned
is a good feeling.
If you notice, there are only vertical seams and seams on the top. I haven't decided
on the extent I will rivet. Each vertical seam can be welded on the inside
and outside. May only use rivets to the attach the top to the long baffle
down the center and then weld over them.
Thought some may find pictures useful - always a lot of discussion on tanks.
There are easier ways to do this. I struggled to make the baffles fit with a
hand made brake. After I bent the last one, the light went off! If the baffles
were made in three pieces - 1) baffle wall, 2) bottom angle, 3) top angle
- the pieces could be clamped in place and then riveted together to get the perfect
fit. ARGHHH!
Next, run some practice beads to get my rythym going good. Then clean and weld.
Install filler neck, high vent and low outlet fittings.
Hope to be running with the big dogs soon. Just a lot of little steps to go.
Please be safe. Make good decisions early. Keep the dominoes far apart. Voice
of experience. It can cost so much when they start to fall.
If you want to view my web page for some of my other challenges:
Hope this comes out OK. Not much experience with new format.
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Thanks too much,
John Bickham
Mark III-C
"Using my Repairman Certificate"
St. Francisville, LA
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| From: | Bob Noyer <a58r(at)verizon.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Muley Mesa by Road |
Heck, it's right there in the subject line!! At 83, sharpness is what
our kitchen knives ain'y got. thanks anyway.
regards,
Bob N.
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/
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| From: | "pat ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
| Subject: | Fw: SEE WHY BOEING LOST OUT TO AIRBUS |
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Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 5:22 AM
Subject: Fwd: SEE WHY BOEING LOST OUT TO AIRBUS
Hope you enjoy this.
cheers
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| From: | DAquaNut(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: How I spent my MV vacation - worked on fuel tank |
In a message dated 5/24/2006 4:04:47 P.M. Central Standard Time,
gearbender(at)bellsouth.net writes:
If you notice, there are only vertical seams and seams on the top. I
haven't decided on the extent I will rivet. Each vertical seam can be welded
on
the inside and outside. May only use rivets to the attach the top to the long
baffle down the center and then weld over them.
John,
If you drill some 3/8" -- 1/2 ' holes in the top skin you can plug weld
them to the center baffle. This would be stronger than trying to rivet the top
to the baffle. Also if you dont get the steel mandrel out of the pop rivet
you will introduce steel into your aluminum weld ,when you try to weld over it
,which is not a good thing. The industry standard for fitting up an aluminum
gas tank is a corner to corner weld, which, when welded with the proper
heat,using the tig method will leave a uniform penetration which will look like
it has a bead on the inside. Good luck.
Ed Diebel
Do Not Archieve
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| Subject: | Re: How I spent my MV vacation - worked on fuel tank |
| From: | "John Bickham" <gearbender(at)bellsouth.net> |
Hey Ed,
I was going to use aluminum rivets with aluminum mandrels (5052) and weld over
these. I could see your suggestion working also. Do you think the hole has
to be 3/8" - 1/2". Seems like a 1/4" would work. I know several people have
had success with weld over aluminum rivets method. I can see that if the rivet
fails or pulls through the two pieces would seperate. The head of the rivet
is only fused to the top plate.
More to ponder.
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Thanks too much,
John Bickham
Mark III-C
"Using my Repairman Certificate"
St. Francisville, LA
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| From: | "John Murr" <jdm(at)wideworld.net> |
| Subject: | Nose Repairs Needed |
Question for the group. I cracked the gel coat and..... er.... ah.... well,
a little more on a nose up landing. It repairable but I can't tell if it's
polyester or epoxy. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you in advance!
John Murr
Original Firestar
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| From: | DAquaNut(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: How I spent my MV vacation - worked on fuel tank |
In a message dated 5/25/2006 7:22:26 P.M. Central Standard Time,
gearbender(at)bellsouth.net writes:
Hey Ed,
I was going to use aluminum rivets with aluminum mandrels (5052) and weld
over these. I could see your suggestion working also. Do you think the hole
has to be 3/8" - 1/2". Seems like a 1/4" would work. I know several people
have had success with weld over aluminum rivets method. I can see that if
the rivet fails or pulls through the two pieces would seperate. The head of
the rivet is only fused to the top plate.
More to ponder.
John,
You might be able to get by with a 1/4 " hole, but I think it is easier
if you have the hole big enough that you can get your tungsten in close enough
to the baffle ,that you can concentrate the heat on it so it burns into it
before the upper skin starts to melt, and you fill op the hole before you burn
into the baffle. I suggest a mock up trial run . Be sure you have a
method to clamp the upper skin down in the vicinity of the hole you are welding.
Chances are the upper skin will want to pull away from the baffle. If you do
not burn into the baffle when you fill the hole, the tank will not leak, but
the baffle will not be secure.
I dont know if you remember me but I met you at the Allen Parrish
Fly-in about 3 years ago. Good luck! Let me know how it goes.
Ed Diebel ( Houston) Do Not Archieve
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| Subject: | Re: Nose Repairs Needed |
| From: | "John Bickham" <gearbender(at)bellsouth.net> |
Hey John M.
I can help a little on this. Just went through the same thing. I had a freind
who helped me. Some may know him from MV 2004 - Bruce Williams (Kitfox). He
loves to play with fiberglass. He has built a couple of glass planes. He basically
worked on this while I worked on some other stuff.
This is what I ordered from Aircraft Spruce. Not sure if you are talking about
just a few small cracks or worse. I deformed mine to where it lost it's original
shape. If your job is smaller, may not need all this. We had some material
left over. It wasn't cheap and it was a lot of labor (sanding). Think I spent
about $100.00 plus sandpaper. New cone was over $400.
Need to epoxy prime, sand smooth to fill and blend and if necessary prime one more
time before final finish coats.
09-00100 DACRON FABRC 1.8 OZ X 64" #611 (release fabric)
4533-60 S-GLASS-STYLE 4533 5.8 OZ. 60" (Bi-directional)
If you need more help, Bruce would be the one to really talk to. Contact me off-list.
Check the before and after pictures to see what I was up against. Hope this was
helpful. Got to remember to put thee attactments in backwards order!
--------
Thanks too much,
John Bickham
Mark III-C
"Using my Repairman Certificate"
St. Francisville, LA
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| From: | Scott Perkins <2scott(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | regarding twin engine Kolb Flyers .... |
Finding out about the new Ultrastar and twin-engine-Flyer yahoo group
got me to thinking about the Kolb Flyer again.
The europeans have been perfecting the power plants for the backpack
powered paragliders for over ten years now and recently I saw a 14-HP
4-stroke with electric starter and reduction drive that weighed
45 pounds !
Two of them would be the CATS MEOW on the Kolb Flyer.....
Twin redundant 4-stroke engines w/eletric start.....
Just like the AIR CAM ! ( except FAR 103 legal ! )
Does anyone know of the existence of any Flyers anywhere ?
here is the new Yahoo Group for the out-of-date hi-boom Kolbs.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/KolbUltrastar/
here are 4 pages of Ultrastar Thumbnails
http://www.vula2.org/VULA5Images/Land_Planes/Ultrastar/Index.html
Twin Engine Flyer photos
http://vula2.org/images/land_planes/Kolb-Flyer-best/
Scott
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| From: | "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Nose Repairs Needed |
John, The rule is that you can put epoxy over polyester, but not the other
way around. Prep the area with 220 grit sandpaper tapering out 2" either
side of the crack, use peel ply over the patch so it won't lift the edges
and also to save a lot of time filling the weave for finish.
On 5/25/06, John Murr wrote:
>
>
> Question for the group. I cracked the gel coat and..... er.... ah....
> well,
> a little more on a nose up landing. It repairable but I can't tell if
> it's
> polyester or epoxy. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you in advance=
!
>
> John Murr
>
> Original Firestar
>
>
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>
>
--=20
Rick Girard
"Pining for a home on the Range"
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Electric fuel pump installation |
| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
For your reading pleasure. Not all Facet pumps are created equal!
FACET MIN - MAX ANTIPART
SHUTOFF POSITIVE MIN DRY FITTING QUIET CHECK SIPHON
NO. PRESSURE GPH LEAD LIFT INCHES SIZE VALVE VALVE VALVE
40104 2 - 4 28 12 1/8-27 INT NO NO NO
40105 3 - 4.5 34 12 1/8-27 INT NO NO NO
40106 4.5 - 7 34 12 1/8-27 INT NO NO NO
40107 7 - 10 50 12 1/8-27 INT NO NO NO
40108 4.5 - 6 32 .25 BLADE 12 3/8 FLARE NO NO NO
40109 4.5 - 9 32 24 3/8-18 INT NO YES NO
See Facet pdf file at Facet site for details. I was under the impression that the
40-105 did have a check valve. It has a buldge on the intake.
Oh well,
Ohio Ralph
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| Subject: | Re: Electric fuel pump installation |
| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
I forgot in my earlier response to give this site as good info for our Facet pumps.
Far more than I had imagined for thoses of you using Facet pumps that thought they
had anti-siphoning or checkvalves, etc. One size does not fit all. Now my
instructor tells me he will not even consider flying my Kolb if I do not install
filter BEFORE pump. Whats a guy to do? Haa! Ha! So amny opininons, so little
time. Guess thats why they call it experimental!
http://www.facet-purolator.com/mcl/pages/frame_src/ttips_frmsrc.html
Ohio Ralph
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| From: | "John Murr" <jdm(at)wideworld.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Nose Repairs Needed |
Thanks!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Nose Repairs Needed
>
> John, The rule is that you can put epoxy over polyester, but not the other
> way around. Prep the area with 220 grit sandpaper tapering out 2" either
> side of the crack, use peel ply over the patch so it won't lift the edges
> and also to save a lot of time filling the weave for finish.
>
> On 5/25/06, John Murr wrote:
>>
>>
>> Question for the group. I cracked the gel coat and..... er.... ah....
>> well,
>> a little more on a nose up landing. It repairable but I can't tell if
>> it's
>> polyester or epoxy. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you in
>> advance=
> !
>>
>> John Murr
>>
>> Original Firestar
>>
>>
>>
>>
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --=20
> Rick Girard
> "Pining for a home on the Range"
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "John Murr" <jdm(at)wideworld.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Nose Repairs Needed |
thanks!
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Bickham" <gearbender(at)bellsouth.net>
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 3:06 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Nose Repairs Needed
>
> Hey John M.
>
> I can help a little on this. Just went through the same thing. I had a
> freind who helped me. Some may know him from MV 2004 - Bruce Williams
> (Kitfox). He loves to play with fiberglass. He has built a couple of
> glass planes. He basically worked on this while I worked on some other
> stuff.
>
> This is what I ordered from Aircraft Spruce. Not sure if you are talking
> about just a few small cracks or worse. I deformed mine to where it lost
> it's original shape. If your job is smaller, may not need all this. We
> had some material left over. It wasn't cheap and it was a lot of labor
> (sanding). Think I spent about $100.00 plus sandpaper. New cone was over
> $400.
>
> Need to epoxy prime, sand smooth to fill and blend and if necessary prime
> one more time before final finish coats.
>
> 09-00100 DACRON FABRC 1.8 OZ X 64" #611 (release fabric)
>
> 4533-60 S-GLASS-STYLE 4533 5.8 OZ. 60" (Bi-directional)
>
>
>
> If you need more help, Bruce would be the one to really talk to. Contact
> me off-list.
>
> Check the before and after pictures to see what I was up against. Hope
> this was helpful. Got to remember to put thee attactments in backwards
> order!
>
> --------
> Thanks too much,
>
> John Bickham
> Mark III-C
> "Using my Repairman Certificate"
> St. Francisville, LA
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=36530#36530
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/kolb_repairs007_408.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/nose_cone_177.jpg
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "George Bass" <gtb(at)commspeed.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Firestar II For Sale |
Hope this helps someone get into the air, in a KOLB.
GTB
For Sale Kolb Firestar II. Built in 1995, 430 hours on
airframe & the 447 Rotax engine. Excellent condition,
but, engine is past recommended OH time. Flies great.
This is a great deal, 'cause I need money to finish a=20
Zenair project. Reduced..... $7000
agustafson(at)chartermi.net Upper Michigan
Picture at: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...Kolb/E-taxi.jpg
Last edited by agus on 04-20-2006 at 09:17 PM=20
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| From: | "Frank Ducker" <frankd(at)foundrynet.com> |
| Subject: | Anyone got feedback on a Mark 111 Extra with a Jabriu 2200cc |
engine
Greetings,
I'm looking for feedback on using a Jabriu 2200cc (85hp) on the Mark111 x.
Its time to get serious about picking an engine and I know its designed for
the Rotax but I'm looking at all options.
Also, how good is the Rotax 912 S 100HP unit??
Ease of install, reliability, positives, negatives on both would be great
info.
I want to be able to carry up to 230lb passengers and possibly put it on
floats.
Thanks for your feedback.
FrankD
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Denny Rowe" <rowedl(at)highstream.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Anyone got feedback on a Mark 111 Extra with a Jabriu 2200cc |
engine
Frank,
If you plan on floats you'll want the 912, more thrust due to the bigger
slower prop.
Plenty of 912Ss on Mk-3s with happy owners, but the 912UL is also a crowd
pleaser.
The newer Jab 2200 perform fine on the Mk-3 with 62 and 64 inch props but
the Rotax swinging 68 - 72 inch blades will give a good bit more take off
and climb performance.
Denny Rowe, Mk-3, PA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank Ducker" <frankd(at)foundrynet.com>
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 4:01 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Anyone got feedback on a Mark 111 Extra with a Jabriu
2200cc engine
>
> Greetings,
>
> I'm looking for feedback on using a Jabriu 2200cc (85hp) on the Mark111 x.
>
> Its time to get serious about picking an engine and I know its designed
> for
> the Rotax but I'm looking at all options.
>
> Also, how good is the Rotax 912 S 100HP unit??
>
> Ease of install, reliability, positives, negatives on both would be great
> info.
>
> I want to be able to carry up to 230lb passengers and possibly put it on
> floats.
>
> Thanks for your feedback.
>
> FrankD
>
>
> --
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Earl & Mim Zimmerman <emzi(at)supernet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Firestar II For Sale |
George Bass wrote:
>
> Hope this helps someone get into the air, in a KOLB.
> GTB
>
> For Sale Kolb Firestar II. Built in 1995, 430 hours on
>
> airframe & the 447 Rotax engine. Excellent condition,
>
> but, engine is past recommended OH time. Flies great.
>
> This is a great deal, 'cause I need money to finish a=20
>
> Zenair project. Reduced..... $7000
>
>
> agustafson(at)chartermi.net Upper Michigan
>
>
> Picture at: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...Kolb/E-taxi.jpg
>
>
> Last edited by agus on 04-20-2006 at 09:17 PM=20
George, I couldn't find the picture?? ~ Earl
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Anyone got feedback on a Mark 111 Extra with a Jabriu 2200cc |
e...
In a message dated 5/26/2006 4:03:56 PM Eastern Standard Time,
frankd(at)foundrynet.com writes:
Also, how good is the Rotax 912 S 100HP unit??
Ease of install, reliability, positives, negatives on both would be great
info.
I want to be able to carry up to 230lb passengers and possibly put it on
floats.
Floats?? No doubt, use the 912S. Check out www.trentonflyers.com then
click on "members" then "Robert Broadwell" if you want to see a nice MkIII with
912S. Includes a very good write=up.
Howard Shackleford
FS II
SC
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: 503 Running Cold |
In a message dated 5/26/2006 9:45:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, Tom463(at)aol.com
writes:
I suspected a problem with the gauge; however, when I
throttle back to idle for landing, it will climb back up to between 2 and
2.5, by
the time I'm at a full stop on the ground. The readings on the EGT's
increase
and decrease in conjunction with the RPM's of the engine. The engine doesn't
seem to perform or sound any differently. The Tiny Tach says my max RPM on
take-off is 6200 on a 3 blade Warp Drive. I'm no mechanic. Any suggestions?
My guess is that either your gage or sensor or wiring is wrong. Temps should
be around 300 degrees or so; what's with the 1.5, 2.0, etc.? Can't think of
anything that would actually make CHT's go down.
I also think your max RPM on takeoff should be about 200 rpm higher; take
about 1 degree pitch out of your prop.
Howard Shackleford
FS II
SC
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Nose Repairs Needed |
| From: | "John Bickham" <gearbender(at)bellsouth.net> |
Just in case there is some confusion. I think we are talking about two different
incidents. The damage to my nose cone (before & after pics) was the result
of an engine out, off-field landing in a hayfield. Due to bad pilot decision
making. It dropped in from 8 -10 feet. Not a simple nose over.
I was lucky nothing hurt me. First thing I checked for while the dust was settling
was if a broken piece of tubing was sticking in me somewhere. No hoop would
have minimized the damage in my case. I concede that my situation was my
own fault. However, engine outs are part of the business. I'm not sure I would
want that long piece of tubing down there aimed at my nasal cavity - like a
pungee stick.
Not being critical of the large hoop idea. Think it may be good for taxi test.
Just sharing my perspective and limited bad experience. To each his own.
Be safe. It just takes a few small wrong decisions to put you in a terrible spot.
The first mistake is usually "nothing like that will ever happen to me".
--------
Thanks too much,
John Bickham
Mark III-C
"Using my Repairman Certificate"
St. Francisville, LA
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| From: | Bruce Chaisson <bruce20(at)bellsouth.net> |
Has anyone had with the Mark III Classic turning to the right? Left turns
seem normal, but try to turn back right from a left turn almost requires two
hands. From level flight not to bad, but still harder than left turn. On
ground everything feels and looks normal. Thanks
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | robert bean <slyck(at)frontiernet.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Kolb Mark III |
Are you trimmed out for zero pressure, straight and level?
I also had a heavier left wing (which can be partially attributable
to sitting on that side) until I stuck a trim tab on my right aileron.
Even though it flies properly now I still consider it a stopgap
measure. My first attempt at correction will be to tweak the
tailfeathers
a little to induce some right roll.
After that I'm going to drill new holes in my spar attach tabs above the
originals to decrease the angle of incidence. If I still need
any lift differential I'll make the hole centers slightly different to
decrease
the right wing a little more than the left.
BTW, on my MkIIIc, largely due to having considerably less hp than
a 912 version, I have no nose over problems at full throttle (solo)
unless the wheels are chocked. According to my prop calc
program I'm getting 58 hp during lift off and early climb/ 4700 rpm
At WOT/level flight I read about 5100 rpm which translates to about
62 hp. I could get a little more out of it with a finer pitch but
I like the economy range as it is.
-BB, one liter suzuki, 65" powerfin, 45+ hours.
tomorrow looks like a good day here in the NE.
On 27, May 2006, at 10:38 AM, Bruce Chaisson wrote:
>
> Has anyone had with the Mark III Classic turning to the right? Left
> turns
> seem normal, but try to turn back right from a left turn almost
> requires two
> hands. From level flight not to bad, but still harder than left turn.
> On
> ground everything feels and looks normal. Thanks
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart(at)onlyinternet.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Kolb Mark III |
>
> Has anyone had (trouble?) with the Mark III Classic turning to the right? Left
turns
>seem normal, but try to turn back right from a left turn almost requires two
>hands. From level flight not to bad, but still harder than left turn. On
>ground everything feels and looks normal. Thanks
>
Bruce,
Do you have a ball slip indicator? It sounds like you could have a combined
yaw and Power-Factor problem. If the propeller is catching more air on the
up swing as apposed to the down swing during cruise attitude you have a
P-Factor problem. You should solve this problem first and then attack the
yaw problem with a tab on the rudder.
An explanation of how to correct P-Factor can be found on:
http://www.thirdshift.com/jack/firefly/firefly56.html
In my case with the FireFly and the Victor 1+, I was able to correct the yaw
problem by rotating the drive reduction unit. But in your case, I believe
you will have to use a tab on the rudder.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "David Key" <dhkey(at)msn.com> |
I had a problem with mine wanting to go left, as I remember I lowered the
left flap or raised the right flap a little I don't remember which and that
worked.
>From: Bruce Chaisson <bruce20(at)bellsouth.net>
>Reply-To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
>To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
>Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb Mark III
>Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 09:38:54 -0500
>
>
> Has anyone had with the Mark III Classic turning to the right? Left
>turns
>seem normal, but try to turn back right from a left turn almost requires
>two
>hands. From level flight not to bad, but still harder than left turn. On
>ground everything feels and looks normal. Thanks
>
>
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| From: | Richard Pike <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
| Subject: | Re: Kolb Mark III |
Kolb ailerons tend to be a bit on the heavy side anyway, here is a mod
that makes them much lighter.
http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/pg7.htm
Have flown it this way for years and love it. No loss of aileron authority.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Bruce Chaisson wrote:
>
> Has anyone had with the Mark III Classic turning to the right? Left turns
> seem normal, but try to turn back right from a left turn almost requires two
> hands. From level flight not to bad, but still harder than left turn. On
> ground everything feels and looks normal. Thanks
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Bruce Chaisson <bruce20(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Hard to turn Mark III |
Thanks to everyone for the input. Can't wait to try the remedies.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "boyd" <by0ung(at)brigham.net> |
| Subject: | MV-2006 was a Success! |
Dennis Kirby wrote
Also Dave Rains (who, incidentally, instigated the first MV gathering 4
years ago), who spent most of his free time giving rides in his Cessna.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
To set the record right..... Erich Weaver, myself and a few others started
a trip in sept. 2002... we got part way through our trip and because of
rain and thunderstorms, the trip was ended early.... that dec or there
abouts. Erich emailed me through the list and asked if I would like to
finish our trip. I decided on a date and the first kolb MV trip in 2003
was soon history.
So my vote for the instigator of the kolb flyin at MV is Erich Weaver.
First year attendees.
Erich, Sonia and Kendal Weaver, mk III
Boyd Young, mk III
Jim Heffner, ff
John Hauck, mkIII
John Williamson, Kolbra
Larry Borne, truck and camper
Tom & Betty Kuffel, prospector
Dave & Eve Pelletier, mkIII
Dave Rains, Iggie and Dennis Kirby, cesna 175
To the best of my memory.
Boyd Young
Do not archeve
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | ray anderson <rsanoa(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Pennzoil 2 stroke aircooled oil |
Help, help,
"Pennzoil 2 stroke air cooled engine oil" which I have always used has disappeared
in this area. Is it off the market every where? If so what are most of
you finding as a good substitute. They are pushing their 2 stroke outboard engine
oil which is partially synthetic. Any one have any experience with it?
Ray
UltraStar
TN Do no archive
---------------------------------
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Pennzoil 2 stroke aircooled oil |
| From: | Herb Gayheart <herbgh(at)juno.com> |
Ray
Zip on over to your local Advanced Auto store and order it.. They will
use your order to create a stocking status for that store.. Did that in
Lafayette Tenn .
There is a distributor in Goodlettsville,Tenn. Friends claim to buy
it by the case there.. Herb
writes:
>
> Help, help,
>
> "Pennzoil 2 stroke air cooled engine oil" which I have always
> used has disappeared in this area. Is it off the market every
> where? If so what are most of you finding as a good substitute.
> They are pushing their 2 stroke outboard engine oil which is
> partially synthetic. Any one have any experience with it?
>
> Ray
> UltraStar
> TN Do no archive
>
>
> ---------------------------------
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Pennzoil 2 stroke aircooled oil |
In a message dated 5/28/2006 12:34:28 PM Eastern Standard Time,
rsanoa(at)yahoo.com writes:
Pennzoil 2 stroke air cooled engine oil" which I have always used has
disappeared in this area. Is it off the market every where? If so what are most
of
you finding as a good substitute. They are pushing their 2 stroke outboard
engine oil which is partially synthetic. Any one have any experience with it?
I started with Penn. 2 stroke aircooled, went to their outboard oil, then to
AV-2. All of it worked well for me, can't recommend one over the other.
Howard Shackleford
FS II
SC
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Richard Pike <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
| Subject: | Re: Pennzoil 2 stroke aircooled oil |
I have had good success since 1983 using Phillips Injex two stroke oil.
Switched to Pennzoil for one season to try it out, the only difference I
could see was that the oily mung on the tail feathers was nastier. Went
back to Injex. I call the local distributor and they drop off a case of
12 quarts at the door. $33 a case, not too shabby.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
ray anderson wrote:
>
> Help, help,
>
> "Pennzoil 2 stroke air cooled engine oil" which I have always used has disappeared
in this area. Is it off the market every where? If so what are most
of you finding as a good substitute. They are pushing their 2 stroke outboard
engine oil which is partially synthetic. Any one have any experience with it?
>
> Ray
> UltraStar
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| From: | "Guillermo Uribe" <WillUribe(at)aol.com> |
| Subject: | MV-2006 was a Success! |
I'm sad to say I didn't take vary many pictures at MV this year. If anyone
took pictures of my FireStar landing or taking off please e-mail me copies.
Thanks
Will Uribe
FireStar II N4GU
El Paso, TX
BTW;
This picture was taken 07/02/2001 at MV. Attendees were Dave Rains and Will
Uribe in two FireStars. :-)
http://www.tnkolbaircraft.com/album/guillermouribe.html
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| From: | Bob Noyer <a58r(at)verizon.net> |
| Subject: | Decoration Day---kinda long |
This is some 500+ words, so you can dump as you wish. It's nothing to
do with flying...except that perhaps The Day remembers all who have
gone ahead for any reason. If it bothers you, send complaints to me,
either on/off list.
When Memorial Day Was Truly 'Decoration Day'
By Robert O Noyer
Now comes another federally mandated holiday, dedicated to the
merchants of America.
This holiday, conveniently hooked on to a weekend, allows us extra
time off from our jobs so that we may celebrate The Memorial Day
Sale, as well as get in a little extra time behind the wheel
something we do all week anyway!
A glance at the calendar sometimes shows two Memorial Days one
"observed," the other just plain old Memorial Day. Can any of us
remember when there was just one such day, and what was memorialized
then?
For many years, May 30 was set aside to honor the memories of fallen
servicemen in all the wars. Many of the southern states have a
different day, however the observance is the same. Perhaps it was a
Virginia woman, Cassandra Oliver Moncure, a distant relative of mine,
who during the War Between the States, first dedicated this day to
the dead.
In my family, and no doubt in many others, May 30 was called
Decoration Day. On this day we went to the country cemeteries where
our ancestors were buried, and clipped the new grass around the
headstones, taking care to tweak the just-blooming peonies, and
placing fresh-cut flowers from our own gardens in Mason jars on the
family plots.
My grandmothers always knew which graves might not be tended for lack
of living relatives, and so brought flowers for these plots, tending
them as well. As children, we were warned to never walk on a grave plot.
And I remember more than 75 years ago the small parades in these tiny
country towns. The entire Boy Scout troop of seven, including what
appeared to be the smallest Scout, carrying The Colors with 48 stars.
A somewhat off-tune but determined Town Band wheezing out The Stars
And Stripes Forever and My Country Tis Of Thee. Only a couple of very
old Civil War veterans, riding in an open car emblazoned with
red,white and blue bunting, leading a few more from the Spanish-
American War. And maybe a dozen from World War I ("The War to End All
Wars").
Most of the veterans still had a piece or two of their old uniforms,
and all had a few medals. Some of the World War "doughboys" had their
odd flat-brimmed "tin hats" and tightly wound puttees, but all who
marched did so in spite of age and pain. Each may have thought it
might be their last time to follow the Flag.
At Old Town Cemetery, all the old vets stood at attention, with the
younger men at each side of the Civil War soldiers. The several
widows, all in black, dotted the crowd of a couple of dozen, standing
near a few graves. Three volleys were fired from two old hunting
rifles. The preacher gave a long prayer, a wavering Taps was sounded
by the silver cornet player of the Town Band, and the formal
Decoration Day ceremonies were over.
Later we entertained old friends with real home-cranked ice cream and
chocolate cake while bringing back the memories of past times and the
people in them. Perhaps it was Memorial Day after all.
First published in The Winchester (VA) Star, 5/29/1999 Editorial
regards,
Bob N.
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/
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| Subject: | Re: Decoration Day---kinda long |
| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
Do you mean to tell me that this Memorial Day is not for discounts on cars, appliances,
groceries, furniture, lawn supplies and new homes at really "blow out
prices" deep discounts?
I thought something was missing in all that we were to celebrate. I spoke these
same type words to my wife the other day. Memorial Day. Wasn't that something
that we were supposed to remember , in the fact that others gave their lives,
unselfishly for their country and their fellow citizens so that we may enjoy
the other 364 days a year for their "BLOW-OUT SALE and INTEREST FREE BARGAINS?
To all of you who have served. To all of you who have done without the companionship
of a Father or Mother, Sister or Brother because they gave un-selfishly
for the preservation of this Nation and its values, I solute you and thank you
for what they hoped to have accomplished.
For all the greedy, sucking, one-more-deal making, blow-out, deep discount business
who don't or somehow cant make enough money all the other days of the year,
I say SHAME ON YOU!
And unlike Bob N., the poster of the message regarding Decoration Day, that said
If it bothers you, send complaints to me, either on/off list. I say, pick
another country! But I believe most if not all that enjoy the Brotherhood of
flying, know somewhat deep inside the real values of those lives not given in
vain. All of the men in my faily served and lived to come back and give to the
fullness of their lives.
Bob N., Thank you for reminding a few what this weekend is really all about.
Ralph in Ohio
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| From: | "ron wehba" <rwehba(at)cebridge.net> |
| Subject: | The Back-Yard Flyer UL |
check this out , plain and VERY simple, and watch the video of the other =
backyard flyer.
http://www.culverprops.com/back-yard-ul.htm
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| Subject: | Re: joining the BigLar club |
| From: | "Max Stanford" <maxstanford77(at)yahoo.com> |
Glad to hear you were not hurt and nothing was damaged Bob. I would not put you
in the "BigLAr" club though. Your misfortune was due to a mechanical failure.
Big Lar has caused his own problems with Vamoose. After reading about Lars trailer
fiasco, I understood exactly why his plane has never flown. Constant bad
choices and the inability to accomplish anything. Just endless excuses from
Lar and 5 years of one fiasco after another blamed on everything but his own
incompetence.
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| From: | "Larry Bourne" <biglar(at)gogittum.com> |
| Subject: | Re: joining the BigLar club |
And where did you come from ?? Why don't you go back there ??
----- Original Message -----
From: "Max Stanford" <maxstanford77(at)yahoo.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 5:29 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: joining the BigLar club
>
> Glad to hear you were not hurt and nothing was damaged Bob. I would not
> put you in the "BigLAr" club though. Your misfortune was due to a
> mechanical failure.
>
> Big Lar has caused his own problems with Vamoose. After reading about
> Lars trailer fiasco, I understood exactly why his plane has never flown.
> Constant bad choices and the inability to accomplish anything. Just
> endless excuses from Lar and 5 years of one fiasco after another blamed on
> everything but his own incompetence.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=37039#37039
>
>
>
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| From: | robert bean <slyck(at)frontiernet.net> |
| Subject: | Re: joining the BigLar club |
Group, I wondered whether to respond to this one.....
I consider Lar a good friend. Has nothing to do with his
owning a Kolb or whatever. Kolbs and this list are what were
responsible for our meeting. It could have been stamp collecting
or bowling. Makes no diff. I know the majority here feel the same.
I admit to spending a few hours today feeling sorry for myself.
Screwing up is something I do with regularity but somehow I
manage to get up the next day and make a fresh start.
Let us hear no more of this kind, it adds nothing and takes away
everything.
-BB
On 28, May 2006, at 8:29 PM, Max Stanford wrote:
>
>
> Glad to hear you were not hurt and nothing was damaged Bob. I would
> not put you in the "BigLAr" club though. Your misfortune was due to a
> mechanical failure.
>
> Big Lar has caused his own problems with Vamoose. After reading about
> Lars trailer fiasco, I understood exactly why his plane has never
> flown. Constant bad choices and the inability to accomplish anything.
> Just endless excuses from Lar and 5 years of one fiasco after
> another blamed on everything but his own incompetence.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=37039#37039
>
>
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| From: | "Denny Rowe" <rowedl(at)highstream.net> |
| Subject: | Re: joining the BigLar club |
Wow Max,
Easy does it there big fellow, we jag around with Lar but keep it in good
taste, he has quite a project on his hands with that engine conversion and
just getting VaMoose to it's current state of completion is no small feat.
Keep your chin up Big Lar,
Denny Rowe
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| From: | "Wayne T. McCullough" <blackbird754(at)alltel.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Decoration Day---kinda long |
I too consider myself a patriot.....However, most of my family heritage has
been fighting terrorism since 1861......If you cannot have something like
freedom.....
TAKE IT BY FORCE......
I'm just a southern nationalist.........I like the ORIGINAL American
REPUBLIC........not the democracy we live in now......Amazing how folks just
choose to IGNORE history....
WT Kolb 004...
Pics coming soon.....
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Noyer" <a58r(at)verizon.net>
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 3:34 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Decoration Day---kinda long
>
> This is some 500+ words, so you can dump as you wish. It's nothing to
> do with flying...except that perhaps The Day remembers all who have
> gone ahead for any reason. If it bothers you, send complaints to me,
> either on/off list.
>
>
> When Memorial Day Was Truly 'Decoration Day'
> By Robert O Noyer
>
> Now comes another federally mandated holiday, dedicated to the
> merchants of America.
>
> This holiday, conveniently hooked on to a weekend, allows us extra
> time off from our jobs so that we may celebrate The Memorial Day
> Sale, as well as get in a little extra time behind the wheel
> something we do all week anyway!
>
> A glance at the calendar sometimes shows two Memorial Days one
> "observed," the other just plain old Memorial Day. Can any of us
> remember when there was just one such day, and what was memorialized
> then?
>
> For many years, May 30 was set aside to honor the memories of fallen
> servicemen in all the wars. Many of the southern states have a
> different day, however the observance is the same. Perhaps it was a
> Virginia woman, Cassandra Oliver Moncure, a distant relative of mine,
> who during the War Between the States, first dedicated this day to
> the dead.
>
> In my family, and no doubt in many others, May 30 was called
> Decoration Day. On this day we went to the country cemeteries where
> our ancestors were buried, and clipped the new grass around the
> headstones, taking care to tweak the just-blooming peonies, and
> placing fresh-cut flowers from our own gardens in Mason jars on the
> family plots.
>
> My grandmothers always knew which graves might not be tended for lack
> of living relatives, and so brought flowers for these plots, tending
> them as well. As children, we were warned to never walk on a grave plot.
>
> And I remember more than 75 years ago the small parades in these tiny
> country towns. The entire Boy Scout troop of seven, including what
> appeared to be the smallest Scout, carrying The Colors with 48 stars.
> A somewhat off-tune but determined Town Band wheezing out The Stars
> And Stripes Forever and My Country Tis Of Thee. Only a couple of very
> old Civil War veterans, riding in an open car emblazoned with
> red,white and blue bunting, leading a few more from the Spanish-
> American War. And maybe a dozen from World War I ("The War to End All
> Wars").
>
> Most of the veterans still had a piece or two of their old uniforms,
> and all had a few medals. Some of the World War "doughboys" had their
> odd flat-brimmed "tin hats" and tightly wound puttees, but all who
> marched did so in spite of age and pain. Each may have thought it
> might be their last time to follow the Flag.
>
> At Old Town Cemetery, all the old vets stood at attention, with the
> younger men at each side of the Civil War soldiers. The several
> widows, all in black, dotted the crowd of a couple of dozen, standing
> near a few graves. Three volleys were fired from two old hunting
> rifles. The preacher gave a long prayer, a wavering Taps was sounded
> by the silver cornet player of the Town Band, and the formal
> Decoration Day ceremonies were over.
>
> Later we entertained old friends with real home-cranked ice cream and
> chocolate cake while bringing back the memories of past times and the
> people in them. Perhaps it was Memorial Day after all.
>
> First published in The Winchester (VA) Star, 5/29/1999 Editorial
>
> regards,
> Bob N.
> http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/
>
>
>
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| From: | Richard Pike <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
| Subject: | Valley Engineering question |
Got a question for Rick Neilson: I have been impressed for years with
Valley Engineering's ability to get great performance out of the VW, but
every one of their airplanes has always been unmuffled/incredibly loud.
Is there any way to make the thing work well and also be quiet? Is your
MKIII quiet? I am tempted in the Valley Reduction/VW direction, but
since my strip is right beside the subdivision, it is going to have to
as quiet as a stock bug.
Realistic? Pipe dream? 75 pounds of muffler? No way?
Thanks
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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| From: | "Larry Bourne" <biglar(at)gogittum.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Valley Engineering question |
While waiting for Rick to respond, I can say that even tho' Vamoose hasn't
flown yet, the engine has been run quite a few times. It has the dual
exhaust system from Scat Engineering, and sounds like any other high
performance street VW. I can't prove this yet, but I do believe the prop
makes as much or more noise than the exhaust. I'm sure there are lighter
systems out there that would work well, too. Lar.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 7:45 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Valley Engineering question
>
> Got a question for Rick Neilson: I have been impressed for years with
> Valley Engineering's ability to get great performance out of the VW, but
> every one of their airplanes has always been unmuffled/incredibly loud.
> Is there any way to make the thing work well and also be quiet? Is your
> MKIII quiet? I am tempted in the Valley Reduction/VW direction, but
> since my strip is right beside the subdivision, it is going to have to
> as quiet as a stock bug.
>
> Realistic? Pipe dream? 75 pounds of muffler? No way?
>
> Thanks
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
>
>
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| From: | "Gene & Tammy" <zharvey(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Looking for a Kolb to buy |
Good morning Folks,
Very interesting group! I'm hoping you will help me in my search for a =
Kolb. I'm looking for a light, 2 stroke, well built, well maintained =
good flying bird. Single or 2 seat. 10 gal or more fuel tank and would =
prefer a 503 but will consider all engines. I live in Tennessee and =
will be willing to travel to locate the right bird. A trailer would be =
a real plus.
Thank you
Gene
zharvey(at)bellsouth.net
731-584-3443 =20
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| From: | Thom Riddle <jtriddle(at)adelphia.net> |
| Subject: | Re: joining the BigLar clubRe: joining the BigLar club |
Me too!
Big Lar sat on my front porch here in Tonawanda, NY a few years ago as
we watched it rain. We were going to fly my Cherokee that day but the
weather just wasn't cooperating. I'm not sure he is much farther along
on his airplane building now than he was then, but I've never built or
even started to build an airplane so I can't fault him at all in any
way. I've always taken the easy and quick way out by buying someone
else's labor of flying love. No longer own a Kolb but probably will
again someday.
Thom in Buffalo
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| Subject: | Re: Valley Engineering question |
| From: | "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle(at)adelphia.net> |
Richard,
I know your question is about noisy VW engine exhaust but your question is of course
applicable to all 4 stroke engines.
I used to own and fly a Titan Tornado with 912UL engine. The builder of this airplane
made his own exhaust system instead of buying Titan's ridiculously expensive
and outrageously loud exhaust system. The Titan "system" was simply a 4-into-1
collector with no muffler at all and was notorious for its noise. The builder
of my Tornado built a 4-into-1 collector with a short glass-pack style
muffler of about 4" diameter and perhaps 10" long coming out of the collector.
I'm guessing the muffler weighed maybe 3-5 lbs. My old Tornado was the quietest
of any Tornado I've every heard. Bob Bean can vouch for this as I've done full
power buzzes of his place just to see how noisy it was(n't).
Bottom line, no 4--stroke has to be loud and the weight penalty for a major noise
reduction does not have to be that great.
--------
Thom in Buffalo
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| From: | ray anderson <rsanoa(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: The Back-Yard Flyer UL |
On the Back Yard Flyer. I don't think many will be happy having the exhaust fumes
(carbon monoxide ) flowing into their face. I can't see Uncle Sam putting
a license on that.
check this out , plain and VERY simple, and watch the video of the other =
backyard flyer.
http://www.culverprops.com/back-yard-ul.htm
---------------------------------
Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta.
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| Subject: | Re: joining the BigLar club |
"Constant bad choices and the inability to accomplish anything"
Well max, Lar is good at some things for sure. Knowing how to treat
people with dignity and respect, handling his emotions in a mature
intelligent manner, and certainly at making friends.
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| From: | "ron wehba" <rwehba(at)cebridge.net> |
| Subject: | Re: The Back-Yard Flyer UL |
looks real easy to route it down under the plane!
----- Original Message -----
From: "ray anderson" <rsanoa(at)yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: The Back-Yard Flyer UL
>
> On the Back Yard Flyer. I don't think many will be happy having the
> exhaust fumes (carbon monoxide ) flowing into their face. I can't see
> Uncle Sam putting a license on that.
>
> "ron wehba"
>
> check this out , plain and VERY simple, and watch the video of the other =
> backyard flyer.
> http://www.culverprops.com/back-yard-ul.htm
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta.
>
>
>
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Two New Email Lists at Matronics and Wiki Reminder! |
Dear Listers,
I have added two new email Lists to the Matronics Line up today. These include
a Continental engine List and a Lightning aircraft List:
===========
continental-list(at)matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Continental-List
Everything related to the Continental aircraft engine. Sky's the limit on discussions
here.
===========
===========
lightning-list(at)matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List
This is an exciting new design from Arion Aircraft LLC in Shelbyville Tennessee. Pete Krotje has a very nice web site on the aircraft that can be found here: http://www.arionaircraft.com/
===========
Also, if you haven't checked out the new Matronics Aircraft Wiki, swing by and
have a look. Remember, a Wiki is only as good as the content that the members
put into it. Have a look over some of the sections, and if you've got some interesting
or useful, please add it to the Wiki! Its all about YOU! :-) The
URL for the Matronics Wiki is:
http://wiki.matronics.com
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | "Gene & Tammy" <zharvey(at)bellsouth.net> |
I want to thank everyone that responded to my request for a Kolb to =
buy. I'm very impressed with how well everyone keeps theirs up. Lots =
of good looking airplanes. Now that I have located the one for me I am =
in the need of a trailer.. I live in Tennessee. Is there anyone that =
has a suitable trailer for sale or rent so I can trailer the bird home?
Again, Thank you
Gene
zharvey(at)bellsouth.net
731-584-3443
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| Subject: | John H and John W and Landing in the Or Outback |
| From: | "lcottrell" <lcottrell(at)fmtcblue.com> |
Well both the John's departed the Rock House this morning for their respective
destination.
The weather has been pretty crappy since their arrival. We did manage to get in
a couple of flights and a lot of visiting and picture viewing so it was not a
loss. One of the trips that we took included Big Horn Sheep that Roger ferreted
out around the Alvord Desert. The flying group included Arty Trost (Drifter)
and Roger Hankins from this list. John W's brother-in-law and his friend also
came to visit.
We had done about all the Bull Shiping we could, so John W suggested that we might
as well work on "Dart". I immediately started the heat in the hanger, The
Johns and Roger started ripping and drilling, while I mostly acted as Gopher.
Everything is still in boxes and I can't find a thing that I want so that was
a full time job for me. We have the motor off, the fabric all off and I will be
one lucky son of a gun if I can manage to get it all together again. I have
tires, nose bowl, engine, and a fabric kit coming. Its too bad that I didn't have
all the stuff here before they arrived or It would probably be ready for the
air by next week. I am telling you those guys can get some work done!
I finally got some of the pictures from my mishap so I will include them. The only
damage to the plane is the nose bowl and the piece that the rudder pedals
fit over on the front of the cage. I decided that I was going to recover the plane
as the fabric is more than 10 years old and we actually managed to damage
the fabric bringing it out of the area that I landed in. It was a good decision
as the fabric was not in good conditon at all. I will of course need a new
enclosure.
I got a call from John W and he is south of San Frisco this evening.
Larry
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| From: | "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell(at)fmtcblue.com> |
| Subject: | Re: John H and John W and Landing in the Or Outback |
Check the thread about landing in the Oregon outback.
Larry,Oregon
----- Original Message -----
From: "Todd Fredricks"
>
> What exactly happened? Looks really sad.
>
> Todd
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| From: | Jim Clayton <jspc78(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: joining the BigLar club |
Hi Lar/Robert/Dave/Everyone,
First of all I think Robert and Dave said it best:
"Let us hear no more of this kind, it adds nothing and
takes away
everything."
-BB
"You don't need to defend yourself from this kind of
bullshit! You're a friend and Kolb building/flying is
a hobby and we "play" with our hobbies in our own way
and in our own time."
AzDave
As for Lar,
I think everyone that has met him, and/or followed his
project, respects his character and engineering
abilities, and realizes he likes to invent and
improve. That causes the project to move slower than
someone intent only on 'getting into the air'. We all
benefit from this experimentation by learning what
works, and what doesn't. He is also particularly
friendly and helpful with all his friends, a quality
far more important, I believe, than the speed at which
he builds.
-Jim
Jim Clayton
California
Mark-3X, 912ULS.....Building
www.quantumwrench.com/Kolb.htm
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| Subject: | Re: Mr. Larry Bourne & MV outing.... |
| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
Man..........
I wish somebody would sling arrows against me so I could get some attention. I
mean a man named "Lar" has got to be big, and I'm big. A man named "Lar" has got
to be mean. I'm mean. A man named "Lar" has to be loving. ........
Well, I got a tear in my eyes! Does that count?
Lar, you beast, you got lots of love, and I ain't even met you yet!
Wish I had love, like Lar's got!
OHO Ralph, not to be construed with the other well loved Ralph on this site!
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| Subject: | Fwd: Float Flying in Florida |
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Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 14:11:09 EDT
Subject: Float Flying in Florida
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To All:
Just got done with four days of flying in Florida. I went to the lake house
I bought in Winter Haven a few months ago. I am still in the planning stages
but I still go down there every week or so to check the house and mow the
grass. It was hot but calm much of the time.
I managed to take a trip up to Lake Jesse and stop at Jack Brown's Seaplane
School. It was fun to plop into the lake and taxi up to the beach for a visit
at the place that I got my rating a few years ago. Winter Haven is a great
place if you have floats because there are so many lakes that you are always in
glide range of one.
It is really fun to tie the Firefly down in the back yard on the beach and
just head out any time you want.
It is amazing to see how much attention the Firefly gets even if it is in the
middle of big fancy planes.
And Yes John, I got one of those fancy power inflatable life vest.
Steve Boetto
FF #007 on floats
winter Haven Fl
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Just got done with four days of flying in Florida. I went to the lake=20=
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nning stages but I still go down there every week or so to check the house a=
nd mow the grass. It was hot but calm much of the time.
I managed to take a trip up to Lake Jesse and stop at Jack Brown's Seaplane=20=
School. It was fun to plop into the lake and taxi up to the beach for=20=
a visit at the place that I got my rating a few years ago. Winter Have=
n is a great place if you have floats because there are so many lakes that y=
ou are always in glide range of one.
It is really fun to tie the Firefly down in the back yard on the beach and j=
ust head out any time you want.
It is amazing to see how much attention the Firefly gets even if it is in th=
e middle of big fancy planes.
And Yes John, I got one of those fancy power inflatable life vest.
Steve Boetto
FF #007 on floats
winter Haven Fl
--part2_4ae.77b83c.31ade4bd_boundary--
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| From: | "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Valley Engineering question |
Richard
I have been out of touch for a week now, that's why I didn't respond till
now.
I have a 4 into1 exhaust system that I think makes the exhaust noise fairly
quiet with the prop noise being the major factor but I have never heard it
fly bye. I did have a glass packed motorcycle muffler on it at one time and
it cut the power way too much and didn't help the noise much. I will just
have to get my plane down to the Kolb Homecoming so that you can hear it and
make your own decision. The Valley guys tend to run with four short exhaust
stacks and that does make allot of noise but they do perform. I think the 4
to 1 produces more power if it is done right. I bought a dune buggy system
that I cut and welded up to fit being careful to not change the pipe lengths
much. I still have the baffled muffler that came with the original system
that I would be happy to donate to your project. It was just too heavy for
my tastes.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 10:45 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Valley Engineering question
>
> Got a question for Rick Neilson: I have been impressed for years with
> Valley Engineering's ability to get great performance out of the VW, but
> every one of their airplanes has always been unmuffled/incredibly loud.
> Is there any way to make the thing work well and also be quiet? Is your
> MKIII quiet? I am tempted in the Valley Reduction/VW direction, but
> since my strip is right beside the subdivision, it is going to have to
> as quiet as a stock bug.
>
> Realistic? Pipe dream? 75 pounds of muffler? No way?
>
> Thanks
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | DAquaNut(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Preservation oil |
Group,
In the Rotax engine manual for my 447 it says to put 3 cm of preservation
oil into the carb and run briefly before shut down if you dont plan to run
it for at least a week to 4 weeks. I have not been doing this and feel it is
more important than ever with mandatory alchohol in our gas here. What do
you use for preservation oil? Will Marvel Mystery oil serve the purpose??
Any suggestions?
Ed Diebel (Firefly # 62)
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Not a club joiner, but....... |
I am in the somewhat enviable position of not knowing any of you except by
way of your posts for the last four months so I have no axes to grind.
I am, however, in the very enviable position of having just bought my dream
place on an airport. My girl friend, Lou, and I bought at Cherokee Strip
Airpark in Udall, KS (18KS) see:
http://www.airnav.com/airport/18KS
If you can play nice with others, come on by. The coffee is hot and the beer
is on ice. We're at the SE runup area for runway 35. Keep in mind that due
to a lucky quirk of evolution if I really want to hear from an asshole, I
can just fart and be done with it.
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jim Hauck" <jimh474(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Re: joining the BigLar club |
Travis Brown Chestnut, get back in the stockroom and Hush.
Jim Hauck
On 5/31/2006 9:51:48 AM, KOLB AIRCRAFT =
(customersupport(at)tnkolbaircraft.com) wrote:
>
>=20
> WE ARE WITH LAR ALL THE WAY
> TRAVIS @ KOLB
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org>
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 7:44 AM
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: joining the BigLar club
>=20
>=20
> >
> > Odd? Maybe not.
> > We feel the same way about defending Winnie the Pooh.
> > Or Shrek.
> >
> > Richard Pike
> > MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> >
> > pat ladd wrote:
> > >
> > > Im in the BigLar club also>>
> > >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > Isn`t this a strange phenomenon? Somebody picks on Big Lar, who =
is a
> person
> > > most of us have never met and probably never will. He is known to =
us
> > > exclusively from his posts on the list. Each of us has a different
> idea
> of
> > > the man, how he talks, dresses, moves...and yet.... someone has =
the
> nerve to
> > > criti
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "boyd" <by0ung(at)brigham.net> |
| Subject: | RE: Kolb-List Digest: 17 Msgs - 05/30/06 |
Group,
In the Rotax engine manual for my 447 it says to put 3 cm of
preservation
oil into the carb and run briefly before shut down if you dont plan to run
it for at least a week to 4 weeks. I have not been doing this and feel it
is
more important than ever with mandatory alchohol in our gas here. What do
you use for preservation oil? Will Marvel Mystery oil serve the purpose??
Any suggestions?
Ed Diebel (Firefly # 62)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Ed. My first thoughts to this is to go by a marine store that deals with
outboards and ask for a can of fogging oil.... it is designed to be
injected into a running engine just before shutdown, and is designed to coat
all the innerds to keep the rust off. You will know you have enough about
the time you cant see for the dense smoke... you will see it again when you
start it back up..
Boyd Y.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "David Key" <dhkey(at)msn.com> |
| Subject: | Not a club joiner, but....... |
I'm in my dream airport home been here for 18 months love it (
http://www.airnav.com/airport/F69 ) I'm never moving out. Now back to
working on my dream plane Xtra with a 912 aiming at September completion
date.
You're going to love it too, I wonder who the real "Max Stanford" is...
>From: "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com>
>Reply-To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
>To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
>Subject: Kolb-List: Not a club joiner, but.......
>Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 08:22:50 -0500
>
>
>I am in the somewhat enviable position of not knowing any of you except by
>way of your posts for the last four months so I have no axes to grind.
>I am, however, in the very enviable position of having just bought my dream
>place on an airport. My girl friend, Lou, and I bought at Cherokee Strip
>Airpark in Udall, KS (18KS) see:
>
>http://www.airnav.com/airport/18KS
>
>If you can play nice with others, come on by. The coffee is hot and the
>beer
>is on ice. We're at the SE runup area for runway 35. Keep in mind that due
>to a lucky quirk of evolution if I really want to hear from an asshole, I
>can just fart and be done with it.
>
>--
>Rick Girard
>"Ya'll drop on in"
>takes on a whole new meaning
>when you live at the airport.
>
>
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| From: | "Eugene Zimmerman" <etzim62(at)earthlink.net> |
Dave,
The quickest way is to post a message with an attachment of the pict to the internet
version of the kolb list.
Like this.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=37684#37684
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/p4290058_167.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/p4290052_500.jpg
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| From: | "ron wehba" <rwehba(at)cebridge.net> |
| Subject: | Re: joining the BigLar club |
git him,hauck, yee'haw'' ron in tx, hi lar!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Hauck" <jimh474(at)earthlink.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 9:10 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: joining the BigLar club
>
> Travis Brown Chestnut, get back in the stockroom and Hush.
>
> Jim Hauck
> On 5/31/2006 9:51:48 AM, KOLB AIRCRAFT =
> (customersupport(at)tnkolbaircraft.com) wrote:
>>
>>=20
>> WE ARE WITH LAR ALL THE WAY
>> TRAVIS @ KOLB
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org>
>> To:
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 7:44 AM
>> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: joining the BigLar club
>>=20
>>=20
>> >
>> > Odd? Maybe not.
>> > We feel the same way about defending Winnie the Pooh.
>> > Or Shrek.
>> >
>> > Richard Pike
>> > MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>> >
>> > pat ladd wrote:
>
>> > >
>> > > Im in the BigLar club also>>
>> > >
>> > > Hi All,
>> > >
>> > > Isn`t this a strange phenomenon? Somebody picks on Big Lar, who =
> is a
>> person
>> > > most of us have never met and probably never will. He is known to =
> us
>> > > exclusively from his posts on the list. Each of us has a different
>> idea
>> of
>> > > the man, how he talks, dresses, moves...and yet.... someone has =
> the
>> nerve to
>> > > criti
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
Per Jimhefner's post and pictures of Monument Valley!
That's it. I can't take it no more. "0519 - 20 2006 Monument Valley 288.jpg", the
third picture down from the top gives it away. Old people setting in chairs
looking at old people settin in chairs, with a Kolb along side for effect. That
was taken in John Haucks back yard. John, the pizza box on the ground gave
it away! It's from the Haucks Hollow Pizza Place! How tacky!! Them Indiians don't
have no "Haucks Pizza Place in Monument Valley!
Now the other pictures are exact copies of some post cards my Uncle sent me from
Nevada last year. You guys didn't go anywhere! ....Old people pizza party in
the Hauck air field! Didn't think somebody would catch on, did'ja?
Quote from Jimhefner: "Qing (Ching) and Ming both enjoyed meeting you and everyone
there this year!! They really enjoyed the flight with Dave Rains, even though
their stomach's were a little queasy when we returned."
That's proof it was the pizza. Inferior pepperoni, probably old "K-Ration" material
from John's service years! Ha. Ha!
shakin and bakin Ralph in Ohio!
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=37794#37794
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| From: | "c b" <seedeebee(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | Kolb Victory at WVI |
Kolbers,
I had 10FR at the Watsonville fly-in and airshow last weekend. We were part
of an official act in FAA waivered airspace doing flour bomb drops and spot
landings.
My wife, 8 months pregnant flew along as co-pilot and bombadier. The winds
were gusting in a strong crosswind (of course).
Sadly, we lost the "bomb the outhouse dressed up like usama bin laden"
contest to a helicopter, but we won the spot landing contest by a landslide
(no helicopters for that one).
What was really nice to see was that afterwards there was so much interest
in this little airplane that the announcer had just described as "unusual."
About 5 different Kolb builders followed us back to parking and we stood and
talked for a 1/2 hour or so afterwards.
I'm continually impressed by the great community we Kolbers have.
Chris Banys
Mark III, 912 UL
10FR
(Soon to be back on floats)
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| From: | "David Lehman" <david(at)davidlehman.net> |
| Subject: | Axle Hole Drilling... |
Dumb question of the day...
I'm replacing my axles and I need to drill the bolt hole... How do I drill
the solid axle rod to match the holes in the gear/axle fitting?... I have a
drill press, but I don't have a V-block, is a V-block necessary?...
Thanx...
David
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Axle Hole Drilling... |
| From: | Herb Gayheart <herbgh(at)juno.com> |
David
In the past I have had the room to drill an entirely new hole in the
axle socket and alxe. I try to drill the new hole closer to the wheel
which preserves the original strength..
Herb
writes:
>
>
> Dumb question of the day...
>
> I'm replacing my axles and I need to drill the bolt hole... How do
> I drill
> the solid axle rod to match the holes in the gear/axle fitting?...
> I have a
> drill press, but I don't have a V-block, is a V-block necessary?...
>
> Thanx...
>
> David
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Larry Bourne" <biglar(at)gogittum.com> |
| Subject: | Re: MV Pics Emailing: HPIM0948, HPIM0962, HPIM0963, HPIM0978, |
H
I shrink (re-size) them to 1000 x 750 pixels, then apply a compression
factor to give anywhere from ~50 - 150 kilobytes each. Works good and
still gives good results, as witness all the pics on my website, and the
ones I've published here. If you have PhotoShop or PhotoShop Elements, I
can walk you thru it very quickly. If you don't have an editing
program, email 'em to me for now, and I'll doctor 'em and send 'em back
ready to publish. Not a problem for me with high speed cable, and it'll
make it much easier on the dial-up folks. A free download that I use at
work, but don't much like is "Gimp." It works, but I find it awkward to
use. 'Course, I'm not used to it, either, so.........??
Lar.
----- Original Message -----
From: "jimhefner" <hefner_jim(at)msn.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 5:41 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: MV Pics Emailing: HPIM0948, HPIM0962, HPIM0963,
HPIM0978, H
>
> Lar, do you know of a way to shrink them down without cropping? I took my
> shots in 3M Normal mode so they take 600 - 700K each. Even that is a big
> wad for a dial up modem, so not sure what to do about that, but to tell
> dial-up folks to avoid looking at pictures.
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| From: | "Robert Laird" <rlaird(at)cavediver.com> |
| Subject: | Re: MV Pics Emailing: HPIM0948, HPIM0962, HPIM0963, HPIM0978, |
H
Another free graphics editor that isn't too hard to learn is PhotoPlus:
http://www.serif.com/photoplus
-- Robert
On 6/1/06, Larry Bourne wrote:
>
> I shrink (re-size) them to 1000 x 750 pixels, then apply a compression
> factor to give anywhere from ~50 - 150 kilobytes each. Works good and
> still gives good results, as witness all the pics on my website, and the
> ones I've published here. If you have PhotoShop or PhotoShop Elements, I
> can walk you thru it very quickly. If you don't have an editing
> program, email 'em to me for now, and I'll doctor 'em and send 'em back
> ready to publish. Not a problem for me with high speed cable, and it'll
> make it much easier on the dial-up folks. A free download that I use at
> work, but don't much like is "Gimp." It works, but I find it awkward to
> use. 'Course, I'm not used to it, either, so.........??
> Lar.
>
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| Subject: | Re: MV Pics Emailing: HPIM0948, HPIM0962, HPIM0963, HPIM0978, |
H
| From: | "Eugene Zimmerman" <etzim62(at)earthlink.net> |
Hey guys.
Here are smaller file versions of the MV picts.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=37986#37986
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/0519_20_2006_monument_valley_317_888_115.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/0519_20_2006_monument_valley_293_906_768.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/0519_20_2006_monument_valley_288_733_752.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/0519_20_2006_monument_valley_177_115_252.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/0519_20_2006_monument_valley_166_468_173.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/0519_20_2006_monument_valley_145_648_705.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/0519_20_2006_monument_valley_142_860_201.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/0519_20_2006_monument_valley_146_158_804.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/0519_20_2006_monument_valley_132_624_197.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/0519_20_2006_monument_valley_100_155_350.jpg
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| From: | Charlie England <ceengland(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Re: MV Pics Emailing: HPIM0948, HPIM0962, HPIM0963, HPIM0978, |
H
If you use Windows XP, here's a link to what has to be the world's
simplest picture file size reducer.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx
Scroll down to 'image resizer' & download it. Install the software. The
software will be invisible but will add an option to the popup menu that
appears when you right-click on a file. After installation, use your
favorite file management software (Windows Explorer works fine) to find
the picture you want to resize. Right-click on the picture file, then
click 'resize image' on the popup menu. Select the size you want
(640x480 works well for email) & click 'ok'. A new image file will be
created using the same file name but with 'small' added to the file name.
A 500k image file can be reduced to around 40k (or less) using this
program. Even if you go up in size a notch, it will still reduce
download time by around 80% & those of us forced to use dialup will be
very grateful. :-)
Charlie
Robert Laird wrote:
>
>Another free graphics editor that isn't too hard to learn is PhotoPlus:
>
>http://www.serif.com/photoplus
>
> -- Robert
>
>On 6/1/06, Larry Bourne wrote:
>
>
>>
>>I shrink (re-size) them to 1000 x 750 pixels, then apply a compression
>>factor to give anywhere from ~50 - 150 kilobytes each. Works good and
>>still gives good results, as witness all the pics on my website, and the
>>ones I've published here. If you have PhotoShop or PhotoShop Elements, I
>>can walk you thru it very quickly. If you don't have an editing
>>program, email 'em to me for now, and I'll doctor 'em and send 'em back
>>ready to publish. Not a problem for me with high speed cable, and it'll
>>make it much easier on the dial-up folks. A free download that I use at
>>work, but don't much like is "Gimp." It works, but I find it awkward to
>>use. 'Course, I'm not used to it, either, so.........??
>>Lar.
>>
>>
>>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Steven Green" <Kolbdriver(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Preservation oil |
Ed,
I used a fuel primer pump and the primer ports on each carb. to pump oil
into the engine before each extended shutdown. I put a tee in the oil hose
coming out of the oil tank to supply oil to the primer. with the engine
still idling I would pump several shots of oil into the carbs. until I could
see smoke from the exhaust then raise the idle speed slightly before shuting
it down.
I put this system on the second 582 I owned. The first failed a rod bearing
in flight which destroyed the engine. The concensus of three (Lockwood,
South MS, and LEAF) Rotax gurus was that corrosion of the rod bearing was
the root cause of the failure. I had purchased the first engine new and put
210 hours on it in 18 months so it did not sit idle for very long. I had my
doubts that corrosion could be the cause as frequently as the engine was
being run, but they are the gurus so I decided I would fog the new engine
each time it was shut down for more than one day.
Steven Green
----- Original Message -----
From: <DAquaNut(at)aol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 11:35 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Preservation oil
>
> Group,
>
> In the Rotax engine manual for my 447 it says to put 3 cm of
preservation
> oil into the carb and run briefly before shut down if you dont plan to
run
> it for at least a week to 4 weeks. I have not been doing this and feel it
is
> more important than ever with mandatory alchohol in our gas here. What
do
> you use for preservation oil? Will Marvel Mystery oil serve the
purpose??
> Any suggestions?
>
>
> Ed Diebel (Firefly # 62)
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | [ Dave Kulp ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! |
| From: | Email List Photo Shares <pictures(at)matronics.com> |
A new Email List Photo Share is available:
Poster: Dave Kulp
Lists: Kolb-List,Ultralight-List
Subject: Kolb Pictures
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/undoctor@rcn.com.06.01.2006/index.html
----------------------------------------------------------
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following information along with your email message and files:
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| From: | "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Axle Hole Drilling... |
David, Here's a quick and dirty way to drill the hole to match the axle
fitting almost perfectly. You will need the following:
1 small can of Bondo
6" of manila hemp rope, 1/4" is fine
2 2" pieces of 1/2" .125 wall steel tubing (or have a machinist drill a
piece of 1/2 steel round stock)
2 3 1/2" long 1/4" bolt with nut and a few washers
Bolt the 2" pieces of tubing to the landing gear using the 3 1/2" long 1/4"
bolts. Chop up the manila rope into 1/2" lengths and reduce the pieces to
fibers. Mix manila fibers and a blob of bondo about the size of two golf
balls BEFORE adding hardener. Once bondo and manila fibers are thoughly
mixed up, add hardener. Build up bondo all around the area where the tubes
and axle fitting meet. Once the bondo cures, remove the bolts. You have
drill bushings that are a near perfect alignment on the holes and each
other. Put your new axle in location, clamp it up so it doesn't move and
drill using a slow speed drill and a little cutting oil to cool it. Clear
the chips from the bit often. When the first hole is drilled through, put
one of the 1/4" bolts into it to keep the axle from moving. Drill the second
hole. A hammer will knock off the big hunks of bondo and tubing and a file
or sandpaper to clean the axle fitting up like new.
On 6/1/06, David Lehman wrote:
>
>
> Dumb question of the day...
>
> I'm replacing my axles and I need to drill the bolt hole... How do I
> drill
> the solid axle rod to match the holes in the gear/axle fitting?... I have
> a
> drill press, but I don't have a V-block, is a V-block necessary?...
>
> Thanx...
>
> David
>
>
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "tc1917" <tc1917(at)hughes.net> |
I know it was probably discussed recently but I need to do some research for
our ultralight club. Namely, what, if any difference may we expect when the
alcohol starts dumping into our gas. I can find several studies and
suggestions by others in the field but want to know what this knowledge base
has to say about it. What can we expect and what conditions are going to be
dangerous; What we can do about it. It is going to be all over, everywhere
at one time and this looks like a disaster to air craft of every size. Can
we use something to lesson the problem or neutralize the water effect? Can
we use Marvel Mystery oil in our gas (or oil). Going to the local airports
and filling a can with avgas is out of the question for most. I am not sure
they will even sell it to you like that. (gas can - red -- diesel can -
green -- avgas can - ?. I know a bunch of you are engineers of some sort -
I have heard you blert it out long enough. Now, put your heads together and
tell us for sure and forever, can we use the crap in our tanks on 2 and 4
strokers, etc. Ted Cowan, Alabama. p.s. I already know ROSUCKS already
states NOT to use this in our engines. But what is the ulternative?
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "David Lehman" <david(at)davidlehman.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Axle Hole Drilling... |
Novel idea Richard, thanx...
David
On 6/1/06, Richard Girard wrote:
>
>
> David, Here's a quick and dirty way to drill the hole to match the axle
> fitting almost perfectly. You will need the following:
>
> 1 small can of Bondo
> 6" of manila hemp rope, 1/4" is fine
> 2 2" pieces of 1/2" .125 wall steel tubing (or have a machinist drill a
> piece of 1/2 steel round stock)
> 2 3 1/2" long 1/4" bolt with nut and a few washers
>
> Bolt the 2" pieces of tubing to the landing gear using the 3 1/2" long
> 1/4"
> bolts. Chop up the manila rope into 1/2" lengths and reduce the pieces to
> fibers. Mix manila fibers and a blob of bondo about the size of two golf
> balls BEFORE adding hardener. Once bondo and manila fibers are thoughly
> mixed up, add hardener. Build up bondo all around the area where the tubes
> and axle fitting meet. Once the bondo cures, remove the bolts. You have
> drill bushings that are a near perfect alignment on the holes and each
> other. Put your new axle in location, clamp it up so it doesn't move and
> drill using a slow speed drill and a little cutting oil to cool it. Clear
> the chips from the bit often. When the first hole is drilled through, put
> one of the 1/4" bolts into it to keep the axle from moving. Drill the
> second
> hole. A hammer will knock off the big hunks of bondo and tubing and a file
> or sandpaper to clean the axle fitting up like new.
>
> On 6/1/06, David Lehman wrote:
> >
> >
> > Dumb question of the day...
> >
> > I'm replacing my axles and I need to drill the bolt hole... How do I
> > drill
> > the solid axle rod to match the holes in the gear/axle fitting?... I
> have
> > a
> > drill press, but I don't have a V-block, is a V-block necessary?...
> >
> > Thanx...
> >
> > David
>
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| From: | "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com> |
Ted, I buy avgas as a treat for my Shovelhead. I can't put it directly into
the tank, but I can buy a can of gas and put it in at home.
Lobby your state to keep ethanol out of high test gas. Most people by the
cheapest grade, anyway, so that's where we get the most bang for the buck,
so to speak.
On 6/2/06, tc1917 wrote:
>
>
> I know it was probably discussed recently but I need to do some research
> for
> our ultralight club. Namely, what, if any difference may we expect when
> the
> alcohol starts dumping into our gas. I can find several studies and
> suggestions by others in the field but want to know what this knowledge
> base
> has to say about it. What can we expect and what conditions are going to
> be
> dangerous; What we can do about it. It is going to be all over,
> everywhere
> at one time and this looks like a disaster to air craft of every
> size. Can
> we use something to lesson the problem or neutralize the water
> effect? Can
> we use Marvel Mystery oil in our gas (or oil). Going to the local
> airports
> and filling a can with avgas is out of the question for most. I am not
> sure
> they will even sell it to you like that. (gas can - red -- diesel can -
> green -- avgas can - ?. I know a bunch of you are engineers of some sort
> -
> I have heard you blert it out long enough. Now, put your heads together
> and
> tell us for sure and forever, can we use the crap in our tanks on 2 and 4
> strokers, etc. Ted Cowan, Alabama. p.s. I already know ROSUCKS already
> states NOT to use this in our engines. But what is the ulternative?
>
>
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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| From: | "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier(at)cableone.net> |
----- Original Message -----
From: "tc1917" <tc1917(at)hughes.net>
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 4:34 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: gasoline
Namely, what, if any difference may we expect when the
> alcohol starts dumping into our gas.
I remember seeing a lot of discussions on this list about this so I asked my
expert. H.L. Cooper owns AZ Ultralights and I asked him. He told me to use
it and not worry about it. I told him that from what I read on the list and
from what is in the Rotax manuals, it shouldn't be used. He said "well
then, I've been wrong for 23 years." Just for your info, H.L.runs an
ultralight airpark and is a full time instructor, builder, and repairer of
broken airplanes. I know he has over 3,000 hours in ultralights and has
rebuilt countless engines, including mine.
Roger Lee and Jim Hefner, you guys live in Tucson --- what do you use?
AzDave
>
>
>
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| From: | "pete" <pandv2(at)vivaccess.com> |
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| From: | "pete" <pandv2(at)vivaccess.com> |
THE TELEPHONE NUMBER DID NOT WORK, DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER. PETE
From: "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org>
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: want to buy
>
> Try Sherrill Phillips, he has an older Firestar that is probably very
> close to part 103 legal, and he has mentioned selling it.
> I think he wants somewhere around $6,000.
> I have flown it, it flies nice. It could stand some sprucing up and
> detail work, it has a 447 on it.
> He lives in East Tennessee, about 20 miles south west of Johnson City
> Call him at 423-483-8949
>
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>>>
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Fwd: Float Flying in Florida |
| And Yes John, I got one of those fancy power inflatable life vest.
|
|
| Steve Boetto
Great!!!
Hope it rots and you never have to use it.
I flew mine for 59.6 hours over the last 19 days, but it stayed in my
helmet bag. Got to start wearing it and getting used to it. Will
not do me a bit of good if I need it and I am not wearing it.
Did fly over a little water on this flight, but not much in the
desert. ;-)
Take care,
john h
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Not a club joiner, but....... |
| http://www.airnav.com/airport/18KS
| Rick Girard
| "Ya'll drop on in"
Wish I had known you were there late yesterday afternoon. Probably
flew right over your house.
Landed at Miami, OK, didn't like the looks of the airport. Took off
again and snook into Neosho, Missouri, just at dark and right behind
the thunderstorm. Had a good night's sleep on the floor of the FBO,
but would have rather stayed at your place. ;-)
john h
mkIII
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| From: | "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Not a club joiner, but....... |
John, By next month,we'll even have a place to put airplanes to put of the
weather. Keep us in mind the next time you go fly about.
On 6/2/06, John Hauck wrote:
>
>
> | http://www.airnav.com/airport/18KS
> | Rick Girard
> | "Ya'll drop on in"
>
> Wish I had known you were there late yesterday afternoon. Probably
> flew right over your house.
>
> Landed at Miami, OK, didn't like the looks of the airport. Took off
> again and snook into Neosho, Missouri, just at dark and right behind
> the thunderstorm. Had a good night's sleep on the floor of the FBO,
> but would have rather stayed at your place. ;-)
>
> john h
> mkIII
>
>
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Not a club joiner, but....... |
That would be out of the weather. Where's that thought checker when you
really want to make sense.
On 6/2/06, John Hauck wrote:
>
>
> | http://www.airnav.com/airport/18KS
> | Rick Girard
> | "Ya'll drop on in"
>
> Wish I had known you were there late yesterday afternoon. Probably
> flew right over your house.
>
> Landed at Miami, OK, didn't like the looks of the airport. Took off
> again and snook into Neosho, Missouri, just at dark and right behind
> the thunderstorm. Had a good night's sleep on the floor of the FBO,
> but would have rather stayed at your place. ;-)
>
> john h
> mkIII
>
>
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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| Subject: | Shipping a prop? |
| From: | "Eugene Zimmerman" <etzim62(at)earthlink.net> |
I have a prop I want to list for sale on E-bay but I'm having a problem finding
a box of adaquate size and length to to ship it.
It is a 68" diameter Tennessee wood prop.
A 6' box is what I'm looking for. The UPS store doesn't have anything that long.
Any ideas?
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=38290#38290
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| From: | "Jim Hauck" <jimh474(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Shipping a prop? |
Get a mailing tube from one of the Mailing Speciality places or go to a =
rug company and get the tube that they roll carpet on.
Jim H
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| From: | "Rick Pearce" <rap(at)isp.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Not a club joiner, but....... |
John: Your also welcome any time a my strip 0KS8 Pearce field in South East
Kansas it is on the sectional. I of course leave the offer open to any
KOLBer flying cross country. I have a 40X 60 hanger on a 1700ft north south
strip right along the road. I have a few extra vehicles you can use or camp
out. You must have flew right over my strip or close to it.As long as I know
your coming I can have gas or tell you were the key is to get in the hanger
if I'm not there. We met at the Kolb homecoming last year.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Charlie England <ceengland(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Shipping a prop? |
Eugene Zimmerman wrote:
>
>I have a prop I want to list for sale on E-bay but I'm having a problem finding
a box of adaquate size and length to to ship it.
>
>It is a 68" diameter Tennessee wood prop.
>A 6' box is what I'm looking for. The UPS store doesn't have anything that long.
>Any ideas?
>
The other ideas are good, but the simplest is to just use 2 boxes, open
on one end, overlap them in the middle & tape.
If it's skinny enough, it might be worth looking at pvc drain pipe.
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| Subject: | Re: planecrazzzzzzzzzzzzy |
| From: | "Max Stanford" <maxstanford77(at)yahoo.com> |
>From what I have been reading, you need to lighten up wcm(at)tampabay.rr.com
Something is wrong when you bash planecrazy for his posts while you post far worse
yourself.
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=38323#38323
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| Subject: | Re: Shipping a prop? |
| From: | Herb Gayheart <herbgh(at)juno.com> |
I will have a go.... All of the "free" shipping material that I have ever
need is behind the average home furnishings/appliance store... Foam
blocks .. foam sheeting, flexible foam covering , bubble wrap etc..
Cardboard that can be shaped into anything... two corners of a
refrigeator box make the beginnings of any size box.. Frugal Herb..
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| Subject: | Re: joining the BigLar club |
| From: | "Max Stanford" <maxstanford77(at)yahoo.com> |
I never said BigLar was not a likeable guy, from the responses posted here he obviously
is. That still does not change the fact that he is a fool that could
not build a childs leggo set, let alone a Kolb.
I still see same excuses by BigLar that I have seen for years, " I travel, I have
other things to do .... " its endless. There are many people that have jobs
to go to every day that still manage to build thier kolbs in much less time,
no excuses.
Just look at BigLars trailer fiasco, a simple problem, getting a Kolb in a trailer.
Yet Lar is such an idiot, he buys a trailer that is to narrow for his plane,
and the resulting fiasco was full of mistakes and and even worse solutions.
Anyone with half a brain would have avoided that fiasco from the start.
Lar wasted how much time on a very bad idea ? This has been the story since day
one with Lar, everything is a problem. Now Lar has a Kolb with the gear so
narrow he will probably have ground handling problems.
One thing is certain, stupid people always make stupid mistakes... I can take
any post on this list and know if its going to be something really stupid or something
really great just by looking at who the author is. It never changes,
there are idiots here that have constant problems (usually created by themselves)
while the few intellgent people here are always solving problems and getting
things done. No excuses.
I wonder what BigLar's next excuse will be ?
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=38326#38326
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| From: | "Max Stanford" <maxstanford77(at)yahoo.com> |
Is it any suprise to anyone that BigLar is having more problems ? I expected nothing
less.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=38328#38328
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| From: | "David Key" <dhkey(at)msn.com> |
What are you adding to the list? How are you helping?
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | List Enclosure Support |
Dear Listers,
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| Subject: | SlingShot Airrame on Ebay |
| From: | "13brv3" <13brv3c(at)bellsouth.net> |
Greetings,
Here's a link to the ad. It's item number 4646672428 if the pasted link gets messed
up.
Please email me directly if you have any questions.
Cheers,
Rusty
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4646672428
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=38404#38404
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| Subject: | Re: joining the BigLar club |
| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
QUOTE:
I never said BigLar was not a likeable guy, from the responses posted here he obviously
is. That still does not change the fact that he is a fool that could
not build a childs leggo set, let alone a Kolb.
I still see same excuses by BigLar that I have seen for years, " I travel, I have
other things to do .... " its endless. There are many people that have jobs
to go to every day that still manage to build thier kolbs in much less time,
no excuses.
Just look at BigLars trailer fiasco, a simple problem, getting a Kolb in a trailer.
Yet Lar is such an idiot, he buys a trailer that is to narrow for his plane,
and the resulting fiasco was full of mistakes and and even worse solutions.
Anyone with half a brain would have avoided that fiasco from the start. Lar
wasted how much time on a very bad idea ? This has been the story since day one
with Lar, everything is a problem. Now Lar has a Kolb with the gear so narrow
he will probably have ground handling problems.
One thing is certain, stupid people always make stupid mistakes... I can take any
post on this list and know if its going to be something really stupid or something
really great just by looking at who the author is. It never changes, there
are idiots here that have constant problems (usually created by themselves)
while the few intellgent people here are always solving problems and getting
things done. No excuses.
I wonder what BigLar's next excuse will be ?
Max, you may be right, I dunno (grammatical error intended)! However, This I do
know. The symbol of rise (Gain) and drop (loss) in your personal folder, indicates
that you may be some form of investor. That or money consumes a great deal
of your life. Money management is a really lonely field and may add to your
frustrations in dealing with others. If Big Lar trys and fails, he by far higher
on my list than any individual who makes money investing my money while belittling
others!
I wish you the greatest success in making all the money your heart can imagine.
I personally would trade all of what I have had for more Lars! And I might add,
I have had it "all". The money is one of the worst of the "all's", because
with it, you cant tell who your friends are. You must have a great deal of money,
for you lack common sense, and possibly any sense of value for your fellow
man, as you probably dont have any real friends nor tack. When I was young,
I used to tell my dad that I was going over to the bar and drink with my friends.
My dad stated that I didnt have any friends at the bar. Since he never went
there he had no idea. I said to him dad, I do too have friends at the bar! He
said no you dont and Ill prove it. How, I asked? He said dont buy anyone a drink,
then you will see who your friends are! I didnt , they weren't and he was
right. Max, I hope you have friends outside the Kolb world. Your not buying
them drinks are you?
By the way, Max, a few tips in spelling and grammar (pun intended):
One thing is certain, stupid people always make stupid mistakes. I dont believe
that I could add anything of merit to that already profound sentence by one
very intelligent individual, such as yourself!
a childs leggo........... childs is childs as in ownership or possession there-of.
Also, if I may add: thier kolbs........ thier is actually their and kolb is a
proper name which should be capitalized.
And last but certainly not least: few intellgent people .... intellgent is actually
spelled intelligent!
You must be a very lonely person to attack a person you hardly (personally) know.
That or you are Lar playing the crowd. And if your Lar, I know where you live!
And please Max, do not presume that my intent here is to belittle you or anyone
else. It is , if nothing more than an effort to show that which you so boldly
pointed out to the rest of we Kolbers ....while the few intellgent people here
are always solving problems and getting things done. No excuses.
MAX- imum sentence for this one
Maintaining space and consuming Oxygen and serving no real purpose, in Ohio, Ralph.
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| Subject: | Where's the love? |
| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
Guys, Is it the heat? Are some of you gentlemen in need an E.D. medication? Did
something crawl up into someone's orifices? Here in Ohio it has rained a great
deal, perhaps it could be the lack of flight time or just the humidity, but
lets maintain some form of kindness for our fellow brothers.
Guys, Guys.....'Where's the Love?"
Planecrazy, No one here would dare mess with a man with a dog as big as that one
next to you at your plane. Lighten-up! And personally, I am glad you shared
your press system with at least me. I hope I never need one, but if so, that will
certanly come in handy. But lets drop the bitterness, please.
Max, play fare, go home or we take away the toys and send you home to mommy!
Lar, I love-ya man! (please note: "That I mean that in a gentlemanly way).
Matt, Send out the dogs of war for these poor souls, before they destroy each other.
Now I want to see and feel some love here on the Kolb site or I'm gonna buy me
a Challenger and hang with a more loving, intellectually stimulating group of
men that have nothing to prove in their virile manhood!
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| From: | "Jeremy Casey" <n79rt(at)kilocharlie.us> |
| Subject: | Re: joining the BigLar club |
Hey bud...
Even if what you were saying was true (which it's not) calling someone a
"fool" and an "idiot" in public would warrant inviting you outside to
rearrange your dental work.
It's called "manners" bud...look into it.
Jeremy Casey
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| From: | "ron wehba" <rwehba(at)cebridge.net> |
| Subject: | Re: joining the BigLar club |
hey max, it has always been hard for me to imagine a total ASSHOLE, but you
have made my imagination "imagine"
----- Original Message -----
From: "Max Stanford" <maxstanford77(at)yahoo.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 4:55 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: joining the BigLar club
>
> I never said BigLar was not a likeable guy, from the responses posted here
> he obviously is. That still does not change the fact that he is a fool
> that could not build a childs leggo set, let alone a Kolb.
>
> I still see same excuses by BigLar that I have seen for years, " I
> travel, I have other things to do .... " its endless. There are many
> people that have jobs to go to every day that still manage to build thier
> kolbs in much less time, no excuses.
>
> Just look at BigLars trailer fiasco, a simple problem, getting a Kolb in a
> trailer. Yet Lar is such an idiot, he buys a trailer that is to narrow
> for his plane, and the resulting fiasco was full of mistakes and and even
> worse solutions. Anyone with half a brain would have avoided that fiasco
> from the start. Lar wasted how much time on a very bad idea ? This has
> been the story since day one with Lar, everything is a problem. Now Lar
> has a Kolb with the gear so narrow he will probably have ground handling
> problems.
>
> One thing is certain, stupid people always make stupid mistakes... I can
> take any post on this list and know if its going to be something really
> stupid or something really great just by looking at who the author is.
> It never changes, there are idiots here that have constant problems
> (usually created by themselves) while the few intellgent people here are
> always solving problems and getting things done. No excuses.
>
> I wonder what BigLar's next excuse will be ?
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=38326#38326
>
>
>
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| From: | "Larry Bourne" <biglar(at)gogittum.com> |
| Subject: | Re: joining the BigLar club |
Well, what a miserable son of a bitch of a thing to come home to, after a
miserable 113 degree day. Who is this guy, anyway ?? Anybody know
anything about him ??.....and no, it's not me playing games with you guys.
>From reading this trash, it appears the guy has a vendetta going, but for
what I have no idea. I've never heard his name before. The general tone
reminds me of kids in a playground. Ignore this jerk and maybe he'll go
away, and stay away. Lar.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Max Stanford" <maxstanford77(at)yahoo.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 2:55 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: joining the BigLar club
>
> I never said BigLar was not a likeable guy, from the responses posted here
> he obviously is. That still does not change the fact that he is a fool
> that could not build a childs leggo set, let alone a Kolb.
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Trying it out Matt |
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| From: | WillUribe(at)aol.com |
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| From: | Thom Riddle <jtriddle(at)adelphia.net> |
| Subject: | Re: joining the BigLar clubjoining the BigLar club |
Max,
Big Lar says to ignore you and maybe you will go away. I respectfully
disagree with Big Lar on this. I want to know who you are. Please give
us a little biography on yourself so we can know who is making these
"profound" statements. Most of us have at one time or another posted
some things about ourselves so others could appreciate where we are
coming from and therefore get a better understanding why we say what we
say. If you wish to make a contribution to this list, then it would
seem reasonable for us to know you a bit better. If you disagree, then
we have no choice but to judge you by your words to date, which are not
leaving a very positive image. If you chose not to do this, which of
course is your right, then please limit your comments to something on
the order of Good Bye.
By the way, are you related to the Max Stanford of Malcom X fame?
http://www.columbia.edu/cu/ccbh/mxp/mstanford.html
This link was provided to me for educational purposes by our very own
Kolber, Bob Bean.
Thom in Buffalo
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
Hi Gang:
A couple pics from my flight to MV.
First is departure shot of hauck's holler immediately after takeoff.
Second is end of second day, Sandia East Airpark, NM, near
Albuquerque. Miss P'fer is anticipating where she has been and where
and what she will see tomorrow.
john h
mkIII
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| From: | "Wayne T. McCullough" <blackbird754(at)alltel.net> |
To all of you who have posted pics on the list..........They are
great........can't wait to be there...
Wayne McCullough
004 Kolbra
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 12:03 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: MV2006
> Hi Gang:
>
> A couple pics from my flight to MV.
>
> First is departure shot of hauck's holler immediately after takeoff.
>
> Second is end of second day, Sandia East Airpark, NM, near
> Albuquerque. Miss P'fer is anticipating where she has been and where
> and what she will see tomorrow.
>
> john h
> mkIII
>
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| Subject: | Larriy's Outback Outlandin |
Larry, congratulations on turning a nasty into an experience! Whatever happened
to your polystyrene (I think) streamline addons to the struts? Did they work
out ok....I am going waaaaay back of course but I THINK OF YOU everytime I think
of streamlining the wing struts.
Also, I had the very same thing happen to me in my Firestar, one plug wire came
off due to the plug nut backing off ....fortunately I could kill the ignition
and just glide into my field in Ohio at the time, several years ago. Good Idea
to bugger up the nut or check the tightness periodically. Am surprised, however,that
your plane didn't shake horribly with only one lung workin, and that
the throttle didn't work to some extent. As I recall, mine did.
George Randolph, GeoR38(at)aol.com
Firestar fella from Ohio, then Fla, visitin Ohilo now who makes the beans at Swiderski's
annual at SnF
-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrel(at)kfalls.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: landing in the Oregon Outback!
-->-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell"
I guess its my turn for a sad tale of woe and regret. Its gonna be a bit
lengthy, so either delete now or settle back.
My wife and I just closed on a property in the Eastern Oregon Desert.
It is something that we both wanted, a 2600 foot airstrip and a cinder
block hanger 40x50 for me and quiet, limitless view with a swimming pool
and endless areas with no fences, to ride her horse for her. Everything
was working out pretty good, We no sooner closed on the property than we
were able to sell our house of 28 yrs here in Klamath. We have been
making trip after trip taking stuff, mostly farming stuff, to the new
house. A six and half hour drive each way. We had just taken a large
truck full of stuff and had finished unloading most of it, when I see a
falcon fly by, mine! She was really tired of the rides over and back
riding in her hood so that she would keep quiet, so she sat outside and
pulled and tugged on her jesses and leash until she pulled loose and off
to see the wizard she goes. She made one pass at a quail that I was
using for a lure and decided that she liked flying much better than
food. Then she wouldn't let me get close to her again. I had invested a
year of training on this bird and she was showing a lot of promise. It
was really sad to loose her now, plus she was hampered by the jesses and
swivel still attached to her. (major guilt trip)
I had taken my Firestar over on a earlier trip, but hadn't flown it
since last October, and I really wanted to do an annual before flying.
Well I had fired it up and had fresh gas in it, and it had preformed
well as usual. So when the winds calmed down, I took off and flew it for
about 45 minutes looking at the area around the property. She preformed
flawlessly as usual, my first landing was just as good as it was when I
flew last October. I was up with the daylight the next morning and it
was dead still, so I told my wife where I wanted to look for the bird
and took off again. I looked for about 45 minutes, flying in some pretty
remote spots and had no luck. My fuel gages were not functioning, ( One
of the things that I really wanted to fix) so I decided to go straight
cross country since it was only 7 miles that way and 18 by hwy. The
country was rising and all of a sudden the engine cut back to idle.
First I looked and saw an area in the sage that had only grass, big
enough to land. I was sure that I couldn't get it back out of there, but
first things first. Now here is really where the decisions get iffy! I
checked and CHT's and EGT's were in range. I decided that my throttle
cable had broken and it had defaulted to idle. No big deal, I had the
spot made with no problem. In behind the spot was a canyon, a creek
drainage on the other. I pulled the throttle all the way back and set up
to land. I am here to tell you that your engine at idle is pushing you
through the air. If it pushes your airplane on the ground, it pushes
your airplane especially well in the air. Not enough to clear a canyon,
but enough to keep your speed up. For some reason I was distracted
enough that I did not cut the engine. At about fifty feet, I could see
that the area was littered with some pretty large rocks, basket ball and
a bit bigger. I remember thinking, "this is gonna hurt". Nothing to do
now but make the best of it, flared at way too fast a speed for a
boulder field, and bang, a cloud of dust and I am hanging in my harness
with gas dripping out of the vent tube. So I cut the power, released the
harness and climbed out. The left landing leg had broken at the wheel
axle causing the plane to nose over hard into a boulder that I would
have other wise straddled bending the rod that the rudders are attached
to, munching my nose cone. The rudder never hit the ground. I checked
for injuries and found that my middle finger somehow was sprained
because I had been holding on to the throttle. No other cuts or
scratches, ego was sprained as well. I went back over the debris field
which was only about 15 feet long, and found that a rock small enough to
only hit the rim caused the left leg to break, while the other wheel
pulled a rock about the size of two basket balls out of the ground with
no damage to the leg.
I hiked out to the hwy "about a mile", and attempted to hitch hike back
home. Well I walked four miles with every "honky" speeding up when they
saw my thumb out. Apparently I don't look as trustworthy as I used to
look. I had developed a couple of good blisters when a Mexican couple
stopped and gave me a ride for the last 6 miles. I managed to get there
just before the wife called up a search party. I changed shoes and
socks, ( always wear good hiking boots when you fly), and we went back
and took off the wings and flipped her back over to a much more
dignified manner. I found that the front spark plug cap was off. I put
it back on the plug and gave it a tug and it easily came off. Throttle
cables were just fine. We then carried the wings for about 4 tenths of a
mile to the trailer. We will go back with my quad, fasten a wheel to the
broken leg, and pull her down the hill, across the creek and back up the
hill on the other side. I will have to cut a fence to get her through,
but I can repair that, then trailer her home. On my walk home I did see
my errant falcon chasing some birds about six miles from home.
I decided to stay for a few days longer to give her a chance to get
hungry and perhaps she would come back home. It rained a bit on Sunday
and at dusk the wind died so I pulled out an electric RC plane that I
had just gotten to play with. I had just set the thing down on the
ground when there was the falcon flying over my head wondering why I
wasn't feeding her. I hot footed it back to the house and got my quail
and called her down. She had apparently gotten lonesome because she
really didn't eat that much. When she was done I put her in the "fenced
weathering pen" that I had finally gotten time to put up. She pulled her
foot up and was apparently happy to be back. I then went out to the RC
plane and found that it had tipped over on its nose, I had apparently
nudged the throttle in my run to the house, so the motor was fried. That
is how I lost two planes in two days!
I had intended to recover the plane this fall, but it appears that I
will have to bump up the schedule a bit. I am going to put the steel
legs and nerf tires on as well. I really don't think there is much
damage to the frame, but of course I will not know for sure until
stripping every thing. The wings, empennage, and boom is just fine.
Larry, Oregon
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| where do you put her down if the windmill stops? Lovely pics.
|
| Cheers
|
| Pat
Thanks Pat:
Haven't figured that one out yet. ;-)
Probably, first available, whether I like it or not. ;-)
john h
mkIII
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| From: | robert bean <slyck(at)frontiernet.net> |
| Subject: | one liter suzuki |
Bob/Gang:
Looks like a mkIIIx with a nose job. Good looking airplane. Does it
have a modified gap seal between the wings? I don't remember seeing
it when Nell and I came by your place several years ago.
john h
mkIII
John, you looked at it but was suffering from a caffeine deprivation.
Since my windshield has been dropped a few inches the gap seal is
a continuation of el cheapo hardware store aluminum at the same level
as the windshield.
If you look close you can see the lexan root fences that keep the air
on the wing. Having flown it without them I can say they made a BIG
difference.
The nose is sheet metal with a foam plug, which I have reshaped TWICE
now and
still not entirely satisfied. Oh well, that's the way with cosmetic
surgery....
-BB, rained out from this morning's fly in.
DSCN0620.JPG
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| Subject: | Re: Where's the love? |
| From: | "Max Stanford" <maxstanford77(at)yahoo.com> |
Ralph Hoover wrote:
>
> Now I want to see and feel some love here on the Kolb site or I'm gonna buy me
a Challenger and hang with a more loving, intellectually stimulating group of
men that have nothing to prove in their virile manhood!
>
The Kolb is a better ultralight, but I have to agree that the Challenger group
are a better buch than we have here. From what I have seen on the Kolb list
over the years is a group of old guys that fancy themselves as gentlemen... In
reality they are a clique that uses tatics of group bashing of whoever they
dont like and trying run them off the list. Their post are often worse and more
scathing than they people they are trying to "correct". The conduct of this
group is some of the worst that I have seen in any forum.
They should look at their own conduct before judging others.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=38521#38521
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| From: | russ kinne <kinnepix(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Where's the love? |
FINE! -- just don 't look at Kolb-ers any more and you'll be happier.
Goodbye.
On Jun 4, 2006, at 4:58 PM, Max Stanford wrote:
>
>
>
> Ralph Hoover wrote:
>>
>> Now I want to see and feel some love here on the Kolb site or I'm
>> gonna buy me a Challenger and hang with a more loving,
>> intellectually stimulating group of men that have nothing to prove
>> in their virile manhood!
>>
>
>
> The Kolb is a better ultralight, but I have to agree that the
> Challenger group are a better buch than we have here. From what I
> have seen on the Kolb list over the years is a group of old guys
> that fancy themselves as gentlemen... In reality they are a clique
> that uses tatics of group bashing of whoever they dont like and
> trying run them off the list. Their post are often worse and more
> scathing than they people they are trying to "correct". The
> conduct of this group is some of the worst that I have seen in any
> forum.
>
> They should look at their own conduct before judging others.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=38521#38521
>
>
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Where's the love? |
|
| They should look at their own conduct before judging others.
Hi Max/All:
Wasn't gonna reply to anything you had to say, but...............
Was wondering if you happen to read what you write, and if you do, do
you take it to heart???
john h (Old fart, still flying and enjoying my Kolb, and the many
friends that fly them)
mkIII
PS: Max, what are you flying and where are you located?
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
Somewhere between Gallup, NM, and MV, UT. (pic 0002)
Approaching MV from the SE. 2.5 days from Alabama. (pic 0003)
The early line up at MV. (pic 0004)
The Totem Pole, 800 feet high from the valley floor. (pic 0005)
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
Hi Folks:
Hope I don't get chastised for forgetting to attach the last two pics
I described in my first email.
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| From: | "Kolbdriver" <kolbdriver(at)mlsharp.com> |
| Subject: | Re: joining the BigLar club |
Truer words were never said!
I have two folks that I delete without reading, Asshole Max, and Dickhead
Jetpilot!
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of ron wehba
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 9:33 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: joining the BigLar club
hey max, it has always been hard for me to imagine a total ASSHOLE, but you
have made my imagination "imagine"
----- Original Message -----
From: "Max Stanford" <maxstanford77(at)yahoo.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 4:55 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: joining the BigLar club
>
> I never said BigLar was not a likeable guy, from the responses posted here
> he obviously is. That still does not change the fact that he is a fool
> that could not build a childs leggo set, let alone a Kolb.
>
> I still see same excuses by BigLar that I have seen for years, " I
> travel, I have other things to do .... " its endless. There are many
> people that have jobs to go to every day that still manage to build thier
> kolbs in much less time, no excuses.
>
> Just look at BigLars trailer fiasco, a simple problem, getting a Kolb in a
> trailer. Yet Lar is such an idiot, he buys a trailer that is to narrow
> for his plane, and the resulting fiasco was full of mistakes and and even
> worse solutions. Anyone with half a brain would have avoided that fiasco
> from the start. Lar wasted how much time on a very bad idea ? This has
> been the story since day one with Lar, everything is a problem. Now Lar
> has a Kolb with the gear so narrow he will probably have ground handling
> problems.
>
> One thing is certain, stupid people always make stupid mistakes... I can
> take any post on this list and know if its going to be something really
> stupid or something really great just by looking at who the author is.
> It never changes, there are idiots here that have constant problems
> (usually created by themselves) while the few intellgent people here are
> always solving problems and getting things done. No excuses.
>
> I wonder what BigLar's next excuse will be ?
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=38326#38326
>
>
>
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| From: | Charlie England <ceengland(at)bellsouth.net> |
All these pics are stunningly beautiful and appreciated, but....
Please, please, please keep file size under 100k per image. It's all
that's needed for viewing on computer screens.
About 60% of us still can't get broadband & a couple of dozen of these
250k-1meg size images each time we download email is a real killer.
Thanks,
Charlie
(resident of the USA, newest member of the technological third world)
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| From: | "pete haggerty" <pandv2(at)vivaccess.com> |
I have changed my email server, my new address is
lhaggerty(at)tampabay.rr.com any one who has sent me info on kolbs for
sale, please do so again as I have lost a few into cyber space thanks
Pete Haggerty 352 621 0602
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| From: | Earl & Mim Zimmerman <emzi(at)supernet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Where's the love? |
Max Stanford wrote:
>
>
> The Kolb is a better ultralight, but I have to agree that the Challenger group
are a better buch than we have here. From what I have seen on the Kolb list
over the years is a group of old guys that fancy themselves as gentlemen...
In reality they are a clique that uses tatics of group bashing of whoever they
dont like and trying run them off the list. Their post are often worse and
more scathing than they people they are trying to "correct". The conduct of this
group is some of the worst that I have seen in any forum.
>
> They should look at their own conduct before judging others.
>
Sounds to me like Jetpilot's cousin or maybe he himself back under a
different name?? Oh well it takes all kinds to make the world go round!
We should remember that it's because of people like this that cause us
to love people like Lar sooo much! :-) ~ Earl
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| From: | "William Herren" <wmdherren(at)hotmail.com> |
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| Subject: | Re: Where's the love? |
| From: | "Dave Bigelow" <up_country(at)hotmail.com> |
Guys - take a look at Max Stanford's email address. It's a freebe from Yahoo.
Anyone can register a fake name and email address there (or on Hotmail).
Whoever the idiot is, you can bet his name is not Max Stanford. I'm thinking someone
who has made himself unpopular on the list, and is back with an alias messing
with people's minds.
We really need to ask Matt to ban anyone who "flames" on this list. The "flamer"
will probably show up with another alias. Thing is to ask Matt to ban anyone
who flames another on the list, and do not reply to the ignorant dolt. He'll
soon get tired of being ignored and go away.
--------
Dave Bigelow
Kamuela, Hawaii
FS2, Rotax 503 DCDI
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=38616#38616
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| From: | Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Hey Matt, Re: Where's the love? |
Hey Matt,
I second that.
All in favor say Aye.
On Jun 5, 2006, at 5:04 AM, Dave Bigelow wrote:
>
>
> Guys - take a look at Max Stanford's email address. It's a freebe
> from Yahoo. Anyone can register a fake name and email address
> there (or on Hotmail).
>
> Whoever the idiot is, you can bet his name is not Max Stanford.
> I'm thinking someone who has made himself unpopular on the list,
> and is back with an alias messing with people's minds.
>
> We really need to ask Matt to ban anyone who "flames" on this
> list. The "flamer" will probably show up with another alias.
> Thing is to ask Matt to ban anyone who flames another on the list,
> and do not reply to the ignorant dolt. He'll soon get tired of
> being ignored and go away.
>
> --------
> Dave Bigelow
> Kamuela, Hawaii
> FS2, Rotax 503 DCDI
>
>
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| From: | "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart(at)onlyinternet.net> |
| Subject: | ADjustme of Wheel Camber on a FireFly |
FireFlyer's
Since I bent a landing gear leg I have had ample opportunity to adjust wheel
camber. The straightened leg survived another landing on a rough grass
field, but camber was lost, and a new leg had to be installed. I found that
the original leg's OD that fit into the axle assembly was turned smaller
than the new leg. When I fit the new leg, I found that I had too much
camber in that the wheel leaned out much to much at the top.
I found my axle bender pipe and this time I took some photos. If you would
like to see how I made camber adjustments, they can be seen at:
http://www.thirdshift.com/jack/firefly/firefly126.html
Yesterday there was a fly-in breakfast at my home airport (I22). Rolled the
FireFly out and I had a fun morning talking to all ages. It is fun to be
around people who love to fly and love airplanes.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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| From: | "David Lehman" <david(at)davidlehman.net> |
| Subject: | Re: ADjustme of Wheel Camber on a FireFly |
After installing replacement (not new) gear legs and gear/axle fittings on
my early Firestar, both my camber and caster are incorrect... I used the
existing mounting holes not realizing that apparently the holes are drilled
by the installer, not Kolb and consequently, no two Kolbs will be alike...
Now I need to move the gear up further in the socket and drill new holes...
Question is, what is the criteria for aligning the gear?... If a 5-6' 5/8"
rod is slid in the axle sockets so that the axles are in alignment and then
the mounting holes drilled, is that sufficient?...
Thanx...
David
On 6/5/06, Jack B. Hart wrote:
>
>
> FireFlyer's
>
> Since I bent a landing gear leg I have had ample opportunity to adjust
> wheel
> camber. The straightened leg survived another landing on a rough grass
> field, but camber was lost, and a new leg had to be installed. I found
> that
> the original leg's OD that fit into the axle assembly was turned smaller
> than the new leg. When I fit the new leg, I found that I had too much
> camber in that the wheel leaned out much to much at the top.
>
> I found my axle bender pipe and this time I took some photos. If you
> would
> like to see how I made camber adjustments, they can be seen at:
>
> http://www.thirdshift.com/jack/firefly/firefly126.html
>
> Yesterday there was a fly-in breakfast at my home airport (I22). Rolled
> the
> FireFly out and I had a fun morning talking to all ages. It is fun to be
> around people who love to fly and love airplanes.
>
> Jack B. Hart FF004
> Winchester, IN
>
>
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>
>
--
"Ultralight flying isn't about transportation; it's about the ma
gic of
pure, simple flight." - Scott Wilcox
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| From: | robert bean <slyck(at)frontiernet.net> |
| Subject: | Re: ADjustme of Wheel Camber on a FireFly |
That will do ok. Stick some weight in the airplane first because
angles change with
load. I prefer to locate the imaginary centerline of the plane on the
garage floor,
about 10' in front, then align a chalk line down the tire sidewall to
the corresponding
mark ten feet out. -Then drill either the hole fixing the leg in the
airframe
-or in the axle adapter. Perfectly parallel wheels will track just
fine.
On 5, Jun 2006, at 9:18 AM, David Lehman wrote:
> After installing replacement (not new) gear legs and gear/axle
> fittings on my early Firestar, both my camber and caster are
> incorrect...- I used the existing mounting holes not realizing that
> apparently the holes are drilled by the installer, not Kolb and
> consequently, no two Kolbs will be alike...- Now I need to move the
> gear up further in the socket and drill new holes...
> -
> Question is, what is the criteria for aligning the gear?...- If a
5-6'
> 5/8" rod is slid in the axle sockets so that the axles are in
> alignment and then the mounting holes drilled, is that sufficient?...
> -
> Thanx...
> -
> David
>
>
> -
> On 6/5/06, Jack B. Hart wrote: --> Kolb-List
> message posted by: "Jack B. Hart" < jbhart(at)onlyinternet.net>
>>
>> FireFlyer's
>>
>> Since I bent a landing gear leg I have had ample opportunity to
>> adjust wheel
>> camber.--The straightened leg survived another landing on a rough
>> grass
>> field, but camber was lost, and a new leg had to be installed.--I
>> found that
>> the original leg's OD that fit into the axle assembly was turned
>> smaller
>> than the new leg.--When I fit the new leg, I found that I had too
much
>> camber in that the wheel leaned out much to much at the top.
>>
>> I found my axle bender pipe and this time I took some photos.--If
>> you would
>> like to see how I made camber adjustments, they can be seen at:
>>
>> http://www.thirdshift.com/jack/firefly/firefly126.html
>>
>> Yesterday there was a fly-in breakfast at my home airport
>> (I22).--Rolled the
>> FireFly out and I had a fun morning talking to all ages.--It is
fun
>> to be
>> around people who love to fly and love airplanes.
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| From: | "David Lehman" <david(at)davidlehman.net> |
| Subject: | Re: ADjustme of Wheel Camber on a FireFly |
Thanx Robert...
That looks like the easiest way to do it...
DVD
On 6/5/06, robert bean wrote:
>
> That will do ok. Stick some weight in the airplane first because
> angles change with
> load. I prefer to locate the imaginary centerline of the plane on the
> garage floor,
> about 10' in front, then align a chalk line down the tire sidewall to
> the corresponding
> mark ten feet out. -Then drill either the hole fixing the leg in the
> airframe
> -or in the axle adapter. Perfectly parallel wheels will track just
> fine.
>
> On 5, Jun 2006, at 9:18 AM, David Lehman wrote:
>
> > After installing replacement (not new) gear legs and gear/axle
> > fittings on my early Firestar, both my camber and caster are
> > incorrect... I used the existing mounting holes not realizing that
> > apparently the holes are drilled by the installer, not Kolb and
> > consequently, no two Kolbs will be alike... Now I need to move the
> > gear up further in the socket and drill new holes...
> >
> > Question is, what is the criteria for aligning the gear?... If a 5-6'
> > 5/8" rod is slid in the axle sockets so that the axles are in
> > alignment and then the mounting holes drilled, is that sufficient?...
> >
> > Thanx...
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> >
> > On 6/5/06, Jack B. Hart wrote: --> Kolb-List
> > message posted by: "Jack B. Hart" < jbhart(at)onlyinternet.net>
> >>
> >> FireFlyer's
> >>
> >> Since I bent a landing gear leg I have had ample opportunity to
> >> adjust wheel
> >> camber.The straightened leg survived another landing on a rough
> >> grass
> >> field, but camber was lost, and a new leg had to be installed.I
> >> found that
> >> the original leg's OD that fit into the axle assembly was turned
> >> smaller
> >> than the new leg.When I fit the new leg, I found that I had too much
> >> camber in that the wheel leaned out much to much at the top.
> >>
> >> I found my axle bender pipe and this time I took some photos.If
> >> you would
> >> like to see how I made camber adjustments, they can be seen at:
> >>
> >> http://www.thirdshift.com/jack/firefly/firefly126.html
> >>
> >> Yesterday there was a fly-in breakfast at my home airport
> >> (I22).Rolled the
> >> FireFly out and I had a fun morning talking to all ages.It is fun
> >> to be
> >> around people who love to fly and love airplanes.
> >> =============================
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart(at)onlyinternet.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Adjustment of Wheel Camber on a FireFly |
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 06:18:15 -0700
From: "David Lehman" <david(at)davidlehman.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: ADjustme of Wheel Camber on a FireFly
Sender: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
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After installing replacement (not new) gear legs and gear/axle fittings on my early
Firestar, both my camber and caster are incorrect... I used the existing
mounting holes not realizing that apparently the holes are drilled by the installer,
not Kolb and consequently, no two Kolbs will be alike... Now I need to
move the gear up further in the socket and drill new holes...
Question is, what is the criteria for aligning the gear?... If a 5-6' 5/8" rod
is slid in the axle sockets so that the axles are in alignment and then the mounting
holes drilled, is that sufficient?...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
David,
In my case with the FireFly, I initially adjusted the camber with 200 pounds
of bagged sand in the seat and the gas tank half full. I kept bending until
the wheels were straight up and down and parallel with the load in the seat,
with the FireFly standing on its wheels, and after rolling the FireFly
forward to seat the wheels. After removing the 200 pounds of sand and
rolling the backwards and FORWARDS to seat the wheels I measured the camber
and found it to be 2.5 degrees with the top of the wheel away from the
fuselage.
I am not sure I remember this correctly, but I believe that after the sand
was removed the wheels had a barely noticeable slight tow-in.
Before I made these adjustments, the FireFly was very squirrelly on hard
surfaces, especially so in gusty cross winds. With these adjustments, the
FireFly is very stable on the ground and goes where you expect it for a
given rudder and stick input.
In your case you do not need to move the leg up in the socket and drill a
new hole. Leave the leg length exposed the same and align the axle, clamp
it in position and drill a new hole slightly above the old one through the
socket.
I took some photos while I replaced the bent gear leg with a new one. I will
try to put them up in the near future.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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| From: | "Jim Hauck" <jimh474(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Re: ADjustme of Wheel Camber on a FireFly |
Y'all;
A simple method that I use, is to slide a piece of tubing through one
axle socket out through the other axle socket. A piece of rigid wall
conduit works fine.
This will align the axles to the airframe.
Drill your mounting holes.
I always set camber at 7 degrees with the weight of the aircraft on the
wheels.
When you set your skinny or fat butt in the aircraft you have about 0 to
2 degrees camber.
I always use 0 degrees toe in or toe out.
Jim Hauck
On 6/5/2006 10:48:09 AM, David Lehman (david(at)davidlehman.net) wrote:
> Thanx Robert...
>
> That looks like the easiest way to do it...
>
> DVD
>
>
> On 6/5/06, robert bean mailto:slyck(at)frontiernet.net]> wrote:That will do ok. Stick some
weight
> in the airplane first because
> angles change with
> load. I prefer to locate the imaginary centerline of the plane on the
> garage floor,
> about
> 10' in front, then align a chalk line down the tire sidewall to
> the corresponding
> mark ten feet out. -Then drill either the hole fixing the leg in the
> airframe
> -or in the axle adapter. Perfectly parallel wheels will track just
> fine.
>
> On 5, Jun 2006, at 9:18 AM, David Lehman wrote:
>
> > After installing replacement (not new) gear legs and gear/axle
> > fittings on my early Firestar, both my camber and caster are
> > incorrect... I used the existing mounting holes not realizing that
> > apparently the holes are drilled by the installer, not Kolb and
> > consequently, no two Kolbs will be alike... Now I need to move the
> > gear up further in the socket and drill new holes...
> >
> > Question is, what is the criteria for aligning the gear?... If a
5-6'
> >
> 5/8"
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | robert bean <slyck(at)frontiernet.net> |
| Subject: | Re: ADjustme of Wheel Camber on a FireFly |
On the subject of gear legs, having straightened one so far in a
neighbor's
hydraulic press; Harbor Freight has a 12 ton hydraulic pipe bender for
$70
I got one last week for the next time I may need it. It has different
size
adapters for pipe size. I figure it can easily be adapted to use as a
regular
press too, for such duties as pushing piston pins, etc.
-BB
On 5, Jun 2006, at 11:17 AM, Jim Hauck wrote:
> Y'all;
> -
> A simple method that I use, is to slide a piece of tubing through one
> axle socket out through the other axle socket. A piece of rigid wall
> conduit works fine.
> -
> This will align the axles to the airframe.
> -
> Drill your mounting holes.
> -
> I always set camber at 7 degrees with the weight of the aircraft on
> the wheels.
> -
> When you set your skinny or fat butt in the aircraft you have about 0
> to 2 degrees camber.
> -
> I always use 0 degrees toe in or toe out.
> -
> Jim Hauck
> On 6/5/2006 10:48:09 AM, David Lehman (david(at)davidlehman.net) wrote:
> > Thanx Robert...
> >
> > That looks like the easiest way to do it...
> >
> > DVD
> >
> >
> > On 6/5/06, robert bean > mailto:slyck(at)frontiernet.net]> wrote:That will do ok.- Stick some
> weight
> > in the airplane first because
> > angles change with
> > load.- I prefer to locate the imaginary centerline of the plane on
> the
> > garage floor,
> > about
> > 10' in front, then align a chalk line down the tire sidewall to
> > the corresponding
> > mark ten feet out.- -Then drill either the hole fixing the leg in
the
> > airframe
> > -or in the axle adapter.- Perfectly parallel wheels will track
just
> > fine.
> >
> > On 5, Jun 2006, at 9:18 AM, David Lehman wrote:
> >
> > > After installing replacement (not new) gear legs and gear/axle
> > > fittings on my early Firestar, both my camber and caster are
> > > incorrect... I used the existing mounting holes not realizing that
> > > apparently the holes are drilled by the installer, not Kolb and
> > > consequently, no two Kolbs will be alike... Now I need to move the
> > > gear up further in the socket and drill new holes...
> > >
> > > Question is, what is the criteria for aligning the gear?... If a
> 5-6'
> > >
> > 5/8"
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell(at)fmtcblue.com> |
Is Dick Kunselman still monitoring the list? Since I am recovering my
firestar, I might as well put some strobes in the wings. I goggled the
name and found some hits but nothing that would lead me to his web site.
Larry, Oregon
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jim Hauck" <jimh474(at)earthlink.net> |
Larry;
This is Dicks number
Jim
KUNTZELMAN ELECTRONICS 610-326-9068
----- Original Message -----
From: Larry Cottrell
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 1:16 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: strobes
Is Dick Kunselman still monitoring the list? Since I am recovering my
firestar, I might as well put some strobes in the wings. I goggled the
name and found some hits but nothing that would lead me to his web site.
Larry, Oregon
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "John Cooley" <johnc(at)datasync.com> |
Larry,
Here=92s the web address http://www.kestrobes.com/
John Cooley
_____
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry
Cottrell
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 12:17 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: strobes
Is Dick Kunselman still monitoring the list? Since I am recovering my
firestar, I might as well put some strobes in the wings. I goggled the
name
and found some hits but nothing that would lead me to his web site.
Larry, Oregon
--
--
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| Subject: | Re: Where's the love? |
| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
George, You took the words right out of my mouth, with the exception of the "town
Clowns"! I don't believe we have any of those, with the exception of that English
guy "Pat something"! Ha. HA.
Wha'd I do with them big rubber feet I always keep around. Wife must be using
my make-up!
Lost my red nose in Ohio, Ralph!
And P.S. THere ain't no way on this green earth that I would rather own anything
but a Kolb. Except maby a helicopter. But thats only if I could get it in the
air and keep it there.
Do not arechive!
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=38714#38714
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| Subject: | Re: Where's the love? |
In a message dated 6/5/2006 10:59:03 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
packerbeagle(at)msn.com writes:
I have never answered a message before. This group sounds like a total bunch
of whiner with nothing else to do.
Hi Bob,
Going by your judgmental whinnying, do we meet at Monument Valley and whine
all day long with nothing else to do?
do no archive
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "J.D. Stewart" <jstewart(at)inebraska.com> |
Hi Larry;
www.kestrobes.com
I'm a dealer for Dick, and can get you a decent price on a set of strobes.
The Dual Magnum wingtip strobes normally list at $228~$229.95. I sell them
to list members for $214.95 (Non CC price). Shipping is usually right at
$10 for most of the US.
J.D. Stewart
UltraFun AirSports, LLC
http://www.ultrafunairsports.com
Challenger e-mail list
http://challenger.inebraska.com
Titan e-mail list
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Titanaircraft/
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Larry Cottrell
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 12:17 PM
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Kolb-List: strobes
Is Dick Kunselman still monitoring the list? Since I am recovering my
firestar, I might as well put some strobes in the wings. I goggled the name
and found some hits but nothing that would lead me to his web site.
Larry, Oregon
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Guillermo Uribe" <WillUribe(at)aol.com> |
These are the type of strobes I installed in my FireStar II
http://www.kestrobes.com/CUSTOMERS_INSTALLATIONS.html
_____
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Cottrell
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 11:17 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: strobes
Is Dick Kunselman still monitoring the list? Since I am recovering my
firestar, I might as well put some strobes in the wings. I goggled the name
and found some hits but nothing that would lead me to his web site.
Larry, Oregon
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Flycrazy8(at)aol.com |
Does anyone know when the First Firefly kit was sold ? (sorry no prize for
the correct answer )
Jim in Rocky Ford seems to have # 35 Firefly in 1998.
I have the # 35 Firefly in 2003 . .... Kolb seems to start over every year
with the I D #.
What say You ?
Stephen
Kolb Firefly 03035
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| Subject: | Re: Where's the love? |
| From: | "Max Stanford" <maxstanford77(at)yahoo.com> |
[quote="Bob Brockman
I'll go with the Challenger.
They deal with real problems and help each other. I don't see that here.
bob
[/quote]
I agree with you 100 % Bob, you are the third person in a few days to make the
observation of how much nicer the Challenger people are. The people here in
the Kolb list are in such denial they will probably accuse you of being someone
else or trying to sell Challengers also. I am frankly tired of seeing this
group of guys ganging up on anyone that disagrees or offends anyone in their little
clique. For years they have demanded that others show respect and be on
their best behavior, while ignoring some of the worst posts and attacks ever
seen on this list by members of their own little group. I have never seen any
other group try to intimidate and run people off the list like the Kolb group
has. Not all the Kolb people are guilty of doing this, but there is a small,
very vocal group that has made the entire Kolb community look bad.
The Challenger list has a far better group of guys that welcome others, and treat
them with respect even if you are not a member of their clique. They most
definitely do not gang up and try to intimidate others even when a disagreement
arises. And to answer your question, no I do not sell Challengers, the people
here on the Kolb list do a better job of selling people on Challengers than
I ever could.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=38783#38783
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| From: | Herb Gayheart <herbgh(at)juno.com> |
Old Kolb sn's vs The New Kolb sn's I think? I have sn FF03200032 from
TNK. Herb
Does anyone know when the First Firefly kit was sold ? (sorry no prize
for the correct answer )
Jim in Rocky Ford seems to have # 35 Firefly in 1998.
I have the # 35 Firefly in 2003 . .... Kolb seems to start over every
year with the I D #.
What say You ?
Stephen
Kolb Firefly 03035
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Chris Mallory" <wcm(at)tampabay.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Where's the love? |
Max,
According to your post you have been lurking on this list for years
......... why?
Seems like you don't have anything positive to add to this list. Are you
some kind of self appointed "Hall Monitor? In all likelihood you don't own
an airplane of any kind and don't have anywhere where you actually "fit in"
so you lurk, pretending to be part of something that you can't.
Please do yourself a favor and get away from all of these horrible people
before they taint you.
You don't seem to like anyone here (except maybe Bob, who is just a carbon
copy butthead just like you) and we sure as hell don't like you, we don't
even like you just reading what we write, so go somewhere ...... the
Challenger list is good, the Jiffy store, Walmart, anywhere .... just not
here.
Bye Bye now
----- Original Message -----
From: "Max Stanford" <maxstanford77(at)yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 7:16 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Where's the love?
>
> [quote="Bob Brockman
> I'll go with the Challenger.
> They deal with real problems and help each other. I don't see that here.
> bob
> [/quote]
>
> I agree with you 100 % Bob, you are the third person in a few days to make
> the observation of how much nicer the Challenger people are. The people
> here in the Kolb list are in such denial they will probably accuse you of
> being someone else or trying to sell Challengers also. I am frankly tired
> of seeing this group of guys ganging up on anyone that disagrees or
> offends anyone in their little ?oclique?. For years they have
> demanded that others show respect and be on their best behavior, while
> ignoring some of the worst posts and attacks ever seen on this list by
> members of their own little group. I have never seen any other group try
> to intimidate and run people off the list like the Kolb group has. Not
> all the Kolb people are guilty of doing this, but there is a small, very
> vocal group that has made the entire Kolb community look bad.
>
> The Challenger list has a far better group of guys that welcome others,
> and treat them with respect even if you are not a member of their
> ?oclique?. They most definitely do not gang up and try to intimidate
> others even when a disagreement arises. And to answer your question, no I
> do not sell Challengers, the people here on the Kolb list do a better job
> of selling people on Challengers than I ever could.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=38783#38783
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "David Key" <dhkey(at)msn.com> |
| Subject: | MaxStanford = JetPilot |
It's in.
Max Stanford = JetPilot
BOB BROCKMAN = PlaneCrazzy (mike)
I'm not going to spend much time on this anymore.
Signatures are;
Attacks
http://www.matronics.com/searching/getmsg_script.cgi?INDEX=53243257?KEYS=attacks?LISTNAME=Kolb?HITNUMBER=5?SERIAL=1702581919?SHOWBUTTONS=YES
Talks about organized groups which attack
http://www.matronics.com/searching/getmsg_script.cgi?INDEX=53098642?KEYS=attacks?LISTNAME=Kolb?HITNUMBER=14?SERIAL=1702581919?SHOWBUTTONS=YES
>From: "Max Stanford" <maxstanford77(at)yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
>To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
>Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Where's the love?
>Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 16:16:47 -0700
>
>
>[quote="Bob Brockman
>I'll go with the Challenger.
> They deal with real problems and help each other. I don't see that here.
> bob
> [/quote]
>
>I agree with you 100 % Bob, you are the third person in a few days to make
>the observation of how much nicer the Challenger people are. The people
>here in the Kolb list are in such denial they will probably accuse you of
>being someone else or trying to sell Challengers also. I am frankly tired
>of seeing this group of guys ganging up on anyone that disagrees or offends
>anyone in their little clique. For years they have demanded that
>others show respect and be on their best behavior, while ignoring some of
>the worst posts and attacks ever seen on this list by members of their own
>little group. I have never seen any other group try to intimidate and run
>people off the list like the Kolb group has. Not all the Kolb people are
>guilty of doing this, but there is a small, very vocal group that has made
>the entire Kolb community look bad.
>
>The Challenger list has a far better group of guys that welcome others, and
>treat them with respect even if you are not a member of their clique.
> They most definitely do not gang up and try to intimidate others even
>when a disagreement arises. And to answer your question, no I do not sell
>Challengers, the people here on the Kolb list do a better job of selling
>people on Challengers than I ever could.
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=38783#38783
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Bob, Max it all gets so confusing... |
| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
Hey, I'm not feelin no LOOOOOOOVE here!
I thought thtat the Matronix Rules and regulations disallow anyone using a "potty
mouthed" language when posting?
I believe that MAX completed his thesis on "how hard is it to rile the feathers
of normally nice relaxed fliers. I also believe he had help in the heat and the
rain that we have faced here in the U.S. as of late.
Makes you wonder, don't it?
Perplexed in Ohio Ralph!
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=38807#38807
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Enough! - READ THIS |
Okay Kolb listers, this flame war has got to stop NOW. Looking back over that
last few days there have been virtually no messages about KOLBS. Here is a quote
from the List Usage Guidelines:
"- Please keep all posts related to the List at some level..."
That's the very first rule! But here is another rule that is perhaps the most
important in my opinion:
"- Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone
polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack
other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously
controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that
will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing."
This whole discussion regarding Lar, Max, and Mike (sort of), totally violates
both of these rules.
Guys, you all know that I like to take a very hands-off approach to running the
Lists and I abhor the idea of List moderation. I don't want to ban anyone from
the List or otherwise block certain people. We are all adults here and know
what the rules are.
Straighten up and fly right. I do not want to see anymore flame posts or other
non-constructive discussions. This is a forum about Kolb building and flying,
not a conduit for venting or picking fights. I also thought I saw some pretty
inappropriate language in a couple of posts. I didn't look closely, but you
know who you are. Unacceptable.
Effective immediately following the complete distribution of this message, I am
going to put a 5-day email posting ban on anyone that continues this flaming
trend of dialog regarding Lar, Max, Mike or anyone else. You've been warned.
Its a lot of work for me to keep track of, but I don't know how else to put the
kibosh on this.
Kolb discussions, please.
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| Subject: | Kolb Folded wing dolly. |
| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
Someone in the past posted some pictures of their Kolb side-by-side with wings
folded and a dolly which cradled the wings and the main tube. The plane was White
with Green and Purple. I would like to get some more info on this, such as
dimensions. The base tube appears to be 2" square steel and the supports appear
to be White PVC somewhere around 4" cut in half. I tried the search using "dolly",
"tube", and other words with no success. So someone wouldn't thing I had
a hankerin of lazy about me.
Any help out there. I want to make one.
Likin-what-I-see here from Ohio Ralph
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=38817#38817
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| From: | "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart(at)onlyinternet.net> |
> Does anyone know when the First
>Firefly kit was sold ? (sorry no prize
>for the correct answer ) Jim in Rocky
>Ford seems to have # 35 Firefly in
>1998. I have the # 35 Firefly in 2003 .
>.... Kolb seems to start over every
>year with the I D #. What say You ?
>Stephen Kolb Firefly 03035
Stephen,
The cashier's check for FF004 was dated May 18, 1995.
Received Kit A before September 14, 1995
Kit C was shipped October, 12, 1995
I was a little slow getting it together so its first
flight was 09/09/99.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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| From: | Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Enough! - READ THIS |
Yo Matt,
Thanks!
You are the "Homer" of Email List Administrators and highly regarded
by us all.
Thanks again for providing a quality forum for us.
PS Is that keeping it "kolb related" enough? :^)
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| From: | "Charles Davis" <ceddavis(at)gmail.com> |
Well, I didn't pilot, but I got to fly...if the pictures come through,
they are of the nose of a B17. The first on the ground, and the 2d
about 1000' over eastern PA. (look past the Norton bombsight...). We
also got to see a Canadian Lancaster fly, one of only 2 in the world.
I see in Sport Aviation that it'll be at Air Venture, and I would
recommend it.
To keep this Kolb related: on the to the way to the Reading, PA WWII
Weekend Airshow, we stopped at KPTW for the EAA chapter's annual
pancake breakfast, and were pleased to find Homer enjoying the food
and the sights. He confirmed that he is tinkering with some designs
for multi-engined single and 2 place planes, but only for his own
enjoyment.
Chuck
Malvern, PA
Firefly
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| From: | "David Lehman" <david(at)davidlehman.net> |
| Subject: | Re: ADjustme of Wheel Camber on a FireFly |
Thanx Jack and Jim...
I used a pickup truck bed partition, the tubular affair that you twist to
tighten against the sides of the bed, fortunately for me the ends are 5/8..
.
Thanx again...
DVD
On 6/5/06, Jim Hauck wrote:
>
> Y'all;
>
> A simple method that I use, is to slide a piece of tubing through one axl
e
> socket out through the other axle socket. A piece of rigid wall conduit
> works fine.
>
> This will align the axles to the airframe.
>
> Drill your mounting holes.
>
> I always set camber at 7 degrees with the weight of the aircraft on the
> wheels.
>
> When you set your skinny or fat butt in the aircraft you have about 0 to
2
> degrees camber.
>
> I always use 0 degrees toe in or toe out.
>
> Jim Hauck
> On 6/5/2006 10:48:09 AM, David Lehman (david(at)davidlehman.net) wrote:
> > Thanx Robert...
> >
> > That looks like the easiest way to do it...
> >
> > DVD
> >
> >
> > On 6/5/06, robert bean > mailto:slyck(at)frontiernet.net ]> wrote:That will
> do ok. Stick some weight
>
> > in the airplane first because
> > angles change with
> > load. I prefer to locate the imaginary centerline of the plane on the
> > garage floor,
> > about
> > 10' in front, then align a chalk line down the tire sidewall to
> > the corresponding
> > mark ten feet out. -Then drill either the hole fixing the leg in the
> > airframe
> > -or in the axle adapter. Perfectly parallel wheels will track just
> > fine.
> >
> > On 5, Jun 2006, at 9:18 AM, David Lehman wrote:
> >
> > > After installing replacement (not new) gear legs and gear/axle
> > > fittings on my early Firestar, both my camber and caster are
> > > incorrect... I used the existing mounting holes not realizing that
> > > apparently the holes are drilled by the installer, not Kolb and
> > > consequently, no two Kolbs will be alike... Now I need to move the
> > > gear up further in the socket and drill new holes...
> > >
> > > Question is, what is the criteria for aligning the gear?... If a 5-6'
> > >
> > 5/8"
>
--
"Ultralight flying isn't about transportation; it's about the ma
gic of
pure, simple flight." - Scott Wilcox
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| From: | DAquaNut(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Preservation oil |
In a message dated 6/4/2006 12:06:32 P.M. Central Standard Time,
kinnepix(at)earthlink.net writes:
I've not read the Rotax manual so I can't even comment on that.
But "cm" is centimeter, just under half an inch, a measure of distance.
"ccm" is a cubic centimeter, a cube 1 cm on a side, a measure of volume.
Some difference!
Confusing in that Rotax says "ccm" in one place and "cm3" in another --
two ways of saying the same thing.
do not archive
Russ. I though it meant cubic centimeter , but was not sure. I
think 3 ccm would be about like a teaspoon full. That is what I am going to try.
Ed
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| From: | "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell(at)fmtcblue.com> |
Thanks, got them on order.
Larry, Ore.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Cooley
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 12:03 PM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: strobes
Larry,
Here=92s the web address http://www.kestrobes.com/
John Cooley
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-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry
Cottrell
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 12:17 PM
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Kolb-List: strobes
Is Dick Kunselman still monitoring the list? Since I am recovering my
firestar, I might as well put some strobes in the wings. I goggled the
name and found some hits but nothing that would lead me to his web site.
Larry, Oregon
--
6/2/2006
--
6/2/2006
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| From: | "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell(at)fmtcblue.com> |
oops! already got them on order from web page. Thanks for the offer
though.
Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: J.D. Stewart
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 12:16 PM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: strobes
Hi Larry;
www.kestrobes.com
I'm a dealer for Dick, and can get you a decent price on a set of
strobes. The Dual Magnum wingtip strobes normally list at $228~$229.95.
I sell them to list members for $214.95 (Non CC price). Shipping is
usually right at $10 for most of the US.
J.D. Stewart
UltraFun AirSports, LLC
http://www.ultrafunairsports.com
Challenger e-mail list
http://challenger.inebraska.com
Titan e-mail list
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Titanaircraft/
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Larry Cottrell
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 12:17 PM
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Kolb-List: strobes
Is Dick Kunselman still monitoring the list? Since I am recovering
my firestar, I might as well put some strobes in the wings. I goggled
the name and found some hits but nothing that would lead me to his web
site.
Larry, Oregon
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| From: | DAquaNut(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Where's the love? |
In a message dated 6/5/2006 11:59:07 A.M. Central Standard Time,
packerbeagle(at)msn.com writes:
They deal with real problems and help each other. I don't see that here.
bob
Bob,
If you had been around for longer than a week You would know that
I for one have been helped more than you can imagine, from people on this
list. If the Kolb list is so bad, Why do you and others reply to it, instead
of the Challenger list. I wouldn't want want to be associated with a group, If
I felt like you say You do. It sounds to me like You and a few others are
upset cause you dont have a Kolb !
Ed
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| From: | DAquaNut(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Where's the love? |
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| From: | "Vic Peters" <vicsvinyl(at)verizon.net> |
Nice pic's Bob.
Is that your Kolb or someone else?
I'd like to ask a couple questions about prop spacer and gap seal
fairing.
Thanks Vic
N40KX 912UL
Maine
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| From: | robert bean <slyck(at)frontiernet.net> |
Hi Vic,
That's mine. Understandable, lot's of Bobs around. -More than one Vic
too.
No prop spacer. Clearance is ok with the Raven redrive.
I have the fabric "ceiling" over the gas tank area plus the sheet metal
fairing above that. I guess I should try to take a pic of the
windshield-to-metal
area.
-ask away, but the weather is perfect here this morning and I'm heading
out.
BB
On 6, Jun 2006, at 8:21 AM, Vic Peters wrote:
> Nice pic's Bob.
> Is that your Kolb or someone else?
> I'd like to ask a couple questions about prop spacer and gap seal
> fairing.
> -
> Thanks Vic
> N40KX 912UL
> Maine
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| From: | "KOLB AIRCRAFT" <customersupport(at)tnkolbaircraft.com> |
HEY EVERYBODY !
THE FIRST FIRE FLY WAS SOLD ON 4 - 10 - 1995
TRAVIS @ KOLB
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart(at)onlyinternet.net>
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: # 1 Firefly
>
> > Does anyone know when the First
> >Firefly kit was sold ? (sorry no prize
> >for the correct answer ) Jim in Rocky
> >Ford seems to have # 35 Firefly in
> >1998. I have the # 35 Firefly in 2003 .
> >.... Kolb seems to start over every
> >year with the I D #. What say You ?
> >Stephen Kolb Firefly 03035
>
> Stephen,
>
> The cashier's check for FF004 was dated May 18, 1995.
> Received Kit A before September 14, 1995
> Kit C was shipped October, 12, 1995
> I was a little slow getting it together so its first
> flight was 09/09/99.
>
> Jack B. Hart FF004
> Winchester, IN
>
>
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| Subject: | HKS out there looking for a Firestar II |
| From: | "N111KX (Kip)" <n111kx(at)mindspring.com> |
May 12, 2006 - June 06, 2006
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