Kolb-Archive.digest.vol-gf
July 31, 2006 - August 25, 2006
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Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
Now that I am actually flying and have come to the conclusion that the Kolb is
an extreemly forgiving aircraft, I find I have a few questions. The plane is a
Kolb Firestar KXP 1990 w/503 and standard two blade prop.
The first question is as follows:
Since cruise speed is 55 MPH on the ASI's (I have two), how might I raise it to
say 60 MPH ASI? I would like to do this with the least amount of alteration to
the craft as posible. My reason is I will be flying with some friends from my
field thaat have a Challenger two place short wing with 503 and a Titon with
a 503.
The second question that relates to the above is:
If I alter something that allows me to atain 60 MPH ASI, will it proportionalty
increase my stall , which is at present in still air 40 MPH ASI?
Thank you for your views and opinions. And please note, I like the plane "AS IS",
but would like to cruise with the other guys closer to their cruise. Perhaps
something simple such as two quarter inch washers under the "rats-a-fratz" will
take care of the necessary speed gain request.
Ohio Ralph
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=51236#51236
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Firestar cruise |
Ralph:
| Since cruise speed is 55 MPH on the ASI's (I have two), how might I
raise it to say 60 MPH ASI?
Here's what I would do. Push the throttle forward. I don't know what
rpm you are using to maintain a cruise of 55 mph. All Rotax two
strokes like to run 5,800 rpm. Seems like a lot of rpm's to the
uneducated. However, this is 75% power, and they like this speed.
You may run your engine all the way to 6,500 rpm maximum continuous
rpm. It is designed to operate at these speeds.
| The second question that relates to the above is:
| If I alter something that allows me to atain 60 MPH ASI, will it
proportionalty increase my stall , which is at present in still air 40
MPH ASI?
Not unless you eat a lot of breakfast before you decide to fly 60 mph.
john h
mkIII
PS: With some experience cross country flying the original FS with
447, and US with Cuyuna ULII02.
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| From: | "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Firestar cruise |
Ralph, Are your lift struts streamlined? That's the easiest way to get where
you want. A buddy of mine told me he gained 10 mph by streamlining the
struts on his Minimax.
Try this for quick strut covers. Go to an engineering drawing supply house
and get the thickest mylar sheet available on a roll. 10 feet of 36" wide
sheet will make four covers. Cut the sheet into 9" wide strips, fold in half
and crease. If you can talk the wife out of her sewing machine (or better
yet get her to sew it) and use it to close what will be the trailing edge
with a zig zag stitch. Slide them over your lift struts and trim to fit. Use
a little tape to set their angle of attack and adjust until your happy.
I didn't invent this method, another Ralph, Ralph Senter of Seattle made his
flying money for a couple of summers at Dog Mtn. selling these to guys who
wanted their single surface hang gliders to go a bit faster. Worked great.
On 7/31/06, Ralph Hoover wrote:
>
> >
>
> Now that I am actually flying and have come to the conclusion that the
> Kolb is an extreemly forgiving aircraft, I find I have a few questions. The
> plane is a Kolb Firestar KXP 1990 w/503 and standard two blade prop.
>
> The first question is as follows:
> Since cruise speed is 55 MPH on the ASI's (I have two), how might I raise
> it to say 60 MPH ASI? I would like to do this with the least amount of
> alteration to the craft as posible. My reason is I will be flying with some
> friends from my field thaat have a Challenger two place short wing with 503
> and a Titon with a 503.
>
> The second question that relates to the above is:
> If I alter something that allows me to atain 60 MPH ASI, will it
> proportionalty increase my stall , which is at present in still air 40 MPH
> ASI?
>
> Thank you for your views and opinions. And please note, I like the plane
> "AS IS", but would like to cruise with the other guys closer to their
> cruise. Perhaps something simple such as two quarter inch washers under the
> "rats-a-fratz" will take care of the necessary speed gain request.
>
> Ohio Ralph
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=51236#51236
>
>
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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| From: | Richard Pike <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
| Subject: | Re: Firestar cruise |
If it were me, I would first put fairings around the landing gear legs,
I already know that helps. Also the lift struts if they are not
presently streamlined. Then I would make all the tubes of the upper
fuselage that are in the air flow to be streamlined, including the
aileron pushrods. Finally, I would gap seal between the inside edges of
the horizontal stab and the fuselage tube, and gap seal the rudder to
the vertical fin, and the elevators to the stab. And I bet that would do
it with out changing the stall speed a bit, with minimal addition of weight.
And the reason I say "If it were me," is because I plan to do all those
things to the MKIII this winter.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Ralph Hoover wrote:
>
> Now that I am actually flying and have come to the conclusion that the Kolb is
an extreemly forgiving aircraft, I find I have a few questions. The plane is
a Kolb Firestar KXP 1990 w/503 and standard two blade prop.
>
> The first question is as follows:
> Since cruise speed is 55 MPH on the ASI's (I have two), how might I raise it
to say 60 MPH ASI? I would like to do this with the least amount of alteration
to the craft as posible. My reason is I will be flying with some friends from
my field thaat have a Challenger two place short wing with 503 and a Titon with
a 503.
>
> The second question that relates to the above is:
> If I alter something that allows me to atain 60 MPH ASI, will it proportionalty
increase my stall , which is at present in still air 40 MPH ASI?
>
> Thank you for your views and opinions. And please note, I like the plane "AS
IS", but would like to cruise with the other guys closer to their cruise. Perhaps
something simple such as two quarter inch washers under the "rats-a-fratz"
will take care of the necessary speed gain request.
>
> Ohio Ralph
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=51236#51236
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb to be burned at end of flying season |
In a message dated 7/30/2006 6:48:23 PM Eastern Standard Time,
biglar(at)gogittum.com writes:
Hmmm........interesting, and good to know. I was told by several people
that it wouldn't support combustion by itself. Calls for more caution, eh
?? Lar.
When we rebuilt my FS II, we did the full Stits process & finished with
Aerothane. When we tried to burn a sample, it would NOT self sustain.
Howard Shackleford
FS II
SC
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| From: | " Chuck" <cstonex(at)msn.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Kolb to be burned at end of flying season |
I'm wondering why your going to burn the Kolb?? I must of missed
something.
----- Original Message -----
From: HShack(at)aol.com
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 10:26 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb to be burned at end of flying season
In a message dated 7/30/2006 6:48:23 PM Eastern Standard Time,
biglar(at)gogittum.com writes:
Hmmm........interesting, and good to know. I was told by several
people
that it wouldn't support combustion by itself. Calls for more
caution, eh
?? Lar.
When we rebuilt my FS II, we did the full Stits process & finished
with Aerothane. When we tried to burn a sample, it would NOT self
sustain.
Howard Shackleford
FS II
SC
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| From: | Cat36Fly(at)aol.com |
What is being used out there to surpress the engine noise coming through the
VHF radio's? I am using a ENC headset but still have a lot of noise at high
RPM which I suspect is coming from the engine electrical circuits. Is there a
product available or do you build a choke circuit.
Larry Tasker
MKlllx 582
N615RT
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| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Firestar cruise |
Fantastic, Gentlemen, and thank you.
Here goes:
RPM is between 5,600 and 5,800 RPM at cruise. Struts are streamlined thanks to
my predecessor. Gaps between all air foil hinged area are gap sealed, but only
on one side. I believe ailerons are on the underside, will need to check if that
makes any difference. Rudder is on the Port side. I noted the Preacher stated
something along the lines of landing gear legs. What is there are round plastic
tubes, who's I.D.'s are slightly larger than the legs themselves. They are
the Kolb longer legs.
I never remember experiencing the "defined" feeling of cruise when I was flying
the Challenger. It sure is noticeable in the Kolb. Plus my Flightstar II climb
/ descend indication shows precisely where that point is. Sounds like the only
thing left is streamlining the legs. Will that make any significant difference?
If so, I may do it out of the Mylar initially.
Thank you each one, again for your help. And "IS" 55 a typical cruise speed for
the Firestar?
Ohio Ralph
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=51435#51435
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| From: | "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Firestar cruise |
Ralph, I wonder if you're not over propped?
When I put the new blades in my Warp Drive, I got the prop pitch set wrong,
big time. The first flight I made the mistake of flying when I should have
shut it down. I made it, but the Mk III would barely reach 60 mph and engine
RPM was low, in the high 4000's, low. I nursed her around and back to the
hangar and took .75 degrees out. Now she could do 70, but climb was still
pitiful and RPM was 5300 +/-. Back to the hangar and took another full
degree out. The engine reached 6200 RPM, the climb was much, much better
(sorry no VSI) and I could get to the top of the green arc on the ASI (90
mph) in level cruise.
If your prop is adjustable, I'd back out .5 degrees and see what you get.
Barring that, I have a 66 X 28 I can send you to try.
Rick
On 8/1/06, Ralph Hoover wrote:
>
> >
>
> Fantastic, Gentlemen, and thank you.
>
> Here goes:
> RPM is between 5,600 and 5,800 RPM at cruise. Struts are streamlined
> thanks to my predecessor. Gaps between all air foil hinged area are gap
> sealed, but only on one side. I believe ailerons are on the underside, will
> need to check if that makes any difference. Rudder is on the Port side. I
> noted the Preacher stated something along the lines of landing gear legs.
> What is there are round plastic tubes, who's I.D.'s are slightly larger
> than the legs themselves. They are the Kolb longer legs.
>
> I never remember experiencing the "defined" feeling of cruise when I was
> flying the Challenger. It sure is noticeable in the Kolb. Plus my Flightstar
> II climb / descend indication shows precisely where that point is. Sounds
> like the only thing left is streamlining the legs. Will that make any
> significant difference? If so, I may do it out of the Mylar initially.
>
> Thank you each one, again for your help. And "IS" 55 a typical cruise
> speed for the Firestar?
>
> Ohio Ralph
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=51435#51435
>
>
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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| From: | "David Paule" <dpaule(at)frii.com> |
| Subject: | Flaps for glide control |
I sometimes change the flap setting on my Cessna Skywagon for glide-path
control.
It works best during the approach segments when the speed is higher. You
definitely need to be on the fast side of the power curve - but not all that
fast.... On final, when I'm slowing down and bleeding off speed, there's
insufficient kinetic energy left for this to be a good control method. While
flying slower, slips work better.
Incidentally, I generally plan to be a little high to land long, not too
high or long, hopefully. Then adjust the terminal approach with slips so as
to get lower. That way I've got a little more energy to play with, and if I
screw up I won't plant it on the wrong side of the fence.
Doing it this way, I can use full flaps as the nominal position, and vary
the glide path rather considerably.
Won't work in all Cessnas, some won't permit slips with full flaps.
Dave Paule
Kolb Firestar II for sale, $8,500, 503, strobes, intake/exhaust silencer.
Cessna Skywagon, "Big Hammer," absolutely not for sale.
Richard Neilsen wrote -
Sorry if I get long winded but... I just got my biannual check ride. This is
my once every two years ride in a C172. Afterwards I shared my forced
landing experience in MKIIIc with him. I started to tell him how I used the
flaps to adjust my glide path to get me where I wanted to land (kind of like
a negative throttle) and fully retracted them for landing. He stopped me and
said you never never raise your flaps on approach. We then got into a heavy
discussion about flap usage. He finally conceded that it might work in one
of "those" Kolbs but not in a GA aircraft. I obviously need to take him up
in my Kolb and should have done it right then in the C172 but at close to
$100 per hour it wasn't worth it.
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
Morning Gang:
Had a good flight to OSH.
First morning out of Gantt IAP put me into some severe weather,
thunderstorms, reduced visibility, heavy rain, lightening, and wind.
I ducked into Guntersville Airport, Alabama. Made my approach over
Lake Guntersville. Beautiful place. During my two hour weather
delay, I discovered Bruce's Cafe. Great home cooking, southern style,
and inexpensive. They also had scratch made banana pudding.
Less than an hour after departing Guntersville, I was circling Mike
Schnabel's brand new airstrip in Manchester, TN. Took some photos of
it and proceeded to be the first aircraft to land there. Mike did a
super job building his strip. A short visit, mostly in the rain,
topped off with fuel, courtesy of Mike (thanks again Mike), and I took
off in the rain. Once airborne the entire horizon was black, with the
exception of one tiny spot of light. Was about ready to dive back
into Mike's strip and wait for the front to pass, but decided to take
a look at the light spot which turned out to be the hole I needed to
get me north.
Ran out of energy and daylight at Terra Haute, IN. Ducked into a
small airport on the north side called Sky King. Was an open hanger
with room for a MKIII among the Cessna's and Pipers. Set my tent up
in the hanger to keep the mosquitoes from carrying me off.
Next morning I flew without the aid of coffee until I landed at
Danville, IL. After topping off the aircraft I headed to town to top
off Hauck. My morning flight was perfect. No wind, clear blue skies,
and a good airplane under me.
Arrived at OSH, promptly did my usual OSH and Sun and Fun arrival
procedure: One pass over the field, tight turn around and land.
Scott Trask and Mark German were already set up in the UL tie
down/camping area.
Had a good time at OSH. Saw a lot of old friends and met some new
ones. Spent 5 hours flying the UL traffic pattern which resulted in
202 miles across the ground in a circle. ;-) That's $200.00 worth of
fuel to go no where.
Was going to depart last day of the show, but Saturday morning had a
line of thunderstorms coming from horizon to horizon. My tent was
dry, no dew Friday night, so I made the decision to head out before
the weather arrived rather than take a chance on spending a few days
waiting for weather.
My second refuel stop was Henderson, KY. Last time I landed here was
1989, on the way home from OSH in my Firestar. I got here late, spent
the night, and left the next morning early. The only evidence I had
been there was the spot in the grass where I had placed my air
mattress.
Ten minutes after departing Henderson I caught the profile of a mkIII
on the horizon. Wow! What a coincidence. This doesn't happen very
often. I pulled up beside him and waved my wings. Tried to contact
him on the local unicom freq with no success. About that time I saw
where he was headed, a beautiful manicured green air strip in the
country. I circled the field, got a wave from the folks on the
ground, and landed. Come to find out it was Mike Richardson and his
BMW powered mkIII. They were having a little get together at Hal
Shoal's (think that is the correct name) and I had landed right in the
middle of it. Most hospitable folks I ever met. When I finally got
back in my mkIII and departed, my belly was full of delicious BBQ and
other home grown veggies and some scrumptious deserts. Fine folks,
and Mike has a beautiful fuel injected, BMW powered, mkIII, plus Hal
has an immaculate original FS.
Got dark on me at Pulaski, TN. Spent the night on the concrete floor
of the hanger. No need for a tent, just the sleeping bag and air
mattress. No one there when I landed and no one there when I got up
the next morning. That meant no fuel either and the weather was
marginal. Tennessee is noted for its abundant ground fog in the
summer. Waited for a while, took a peak top side, and headed for
Gantt IAP.
Was on the south side of Cullman Airport, AL, and ran into rain and
solid overcast. Turned around and flew back to Cullman. Didn't need
fuel, but the FBO was super friendly, gave me the courtesy car and I
got a Ultimate Supreme Grand Slam Breakfast at Denny's in Cullman,
plus plenty coffee. I was going to try and fly 300 miles without
coffee, but now I did not have to.
Forty miles from home, in the little mountains SE of Birmingham, AL,
the weather continued to plague me with low viz and rain. Jim House,
former EAA UL Board member's grass strip was right below me. I
circled the field a couple times, woke up all his neighbors, and by
the time I taxied up to the hanger, there was a good size crowd there.
Had a good visit, got back in Miss P'fer, and was landing at my strip
a few minutes later.
I have attached a few photos, I only took a few, of the trip.
Take care,
john h
mkIII
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| From: | "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier(at)cableone.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Firestar cruise |
>
> Thank you each one, again for your help. And "IS" 55 a typical cruise
> speed for the Firestar?
>
> Ohio Ralph
When I had my single seat Firestar the ASI seemed to be "tied" to the tach.
What I mean is if I was turning 5500 rpm, I was at 55 mph, 6,000 rpm, 60
mph,etc. I know there's no relation between these two conditions but that's
how it was. Oh yeah, it had a 447. Great little airplane.
AzDave
>
>
>
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| From: | "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle(at)adelphia.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Firestar cruise |
Ralph,
When I flew an early Firestar with the 35 hp 377, it would cruise true airspeed
of 55 mph at only 5,200 rpm and EGTs were fine. It would cruise a good bit over
60 mph at 5800-5900 rpm but was a lot noisier. And this was with a big cannister
BRS hanging down in the breeze below the fuselage. However, it did have
streamlined wing struts but no leg fairings and the prop was a 60" two-blade IVO.
And, it had smallish wheelbarrow tires. Big tires will knock off a couple
MPH easily.
--------
Thom in Buffalo
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=51485#51485
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| From: | "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com> |
What you probably need is a filter capacitor of about 4700 uf and a choke
coil. Radio Shack used to sell both these items in a kit, but I don't know
if they still do. Aso check to see that you've grounded everything per the
manufacturers spec. and haven't added any grounds. Join the Aeroelectric
list which is also here on Mattronics.
On 8/1/06, Cat36Fly(at)aol.com wrote:
>
> What is being used out there to surpress the engine noise coming through
> the VHF radio's? I am using a ENC headset but still have a lot of noise at
> high RPM which I suspect is coming from the engine electrical circuits. Is
> there a product available or do you build a choke circuit.
>
> Larry Tasker
> MKlllx 582
> N615RT
>
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Richard Pike <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
| Subject: | Re: Firestar cruise |
Do you have a cockpit enclosure? There is a world of difference in
efficiency between enclosed and open on the Firestar. (You need to pick
Vince Nicely's brains on this, he is the Firestar II efficiency expert.
Talked to him last night, he was out yesterday in his FSII, thermal
sniffing, flew for 3 hours, burned 6 gallons of gas)
On our FSII, it has a 582, and runs 55 mph at 5000 rpm. At 5800 rpm, you
better to have the nose up and be climbing.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Ralph Hoover wrote:
>
> Fantastic, Gentlemen, and thank you.
>
> Here goes:
> RPM is between 5,600 and 5,800 RPM at cruise. Struts are streamlined thanks to
my predecessor. Gaps between all air foil hinged area are gap sealed, but only
on one side. I believe ailerons are on the underside, will need to check if
that makes any difference. Rudder is on the Port side. I noted the Preacher stated
something along the lines of landing gear legs. What is there are round
plastic tubes, who's I.D.'s are slightly larger than the legs themselves. They
are the Kolb longer legs.
>
> I never remember experiencing the "defined" feeling of cruise when I was flying
the Challenger. It sure is noticeable in the Kolb. Plus my Flightstar II climb
/ descend indication shows precisely where that point is. Sounds like the
only thing left is streamlining the legs. Will that make any significant difference?
If so, I may do it out of the Mylar initially.
>
> Thank you each one, again for your help. And "IS" 55 a typical cruise speed for
the Firestar?
>
> Ohio Ralph
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=51435#51435
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| From: | Blumax008(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Disaster at Nudie Beach! :( |
Learn from this all you lightplane enthusiasts. It deals with Trikes but the
lesson is the same...don't push it! I was lucky beyond belief.
Hey,
I'll try to make this as brief as possible. Here's what happened...
Me & a good friend were out flying our Trikes. I have a Kolb too. Typical
hot, miserable, muggy, windy, buggie, shitty, deep summer Florida day. T-storms
in the vicinity. Why people flock to Florida in the summer eludes me
completely.
Me, after landing on beach, looking at video camera footage & standing
within 1 foot of my Trike with my thumb up my ass & my Trike wing angled to
windward...in other words...the wrong way it should've been angled with a T-storm
very nearby & the wind already picking up.
Continuing with my thumb up my ass & while reviewing video footage of total
bullshit...all of a sudden, a gust of wind...Trike falls over & bends the
keel tube about 20 degrees off center causing all in-flight supporting wires on
that side to have a huge amount of slack.
Me, continuing to be stupid, removes all excess equipment, gets in & flies
it (I'll fly low in case it falls apart Mike") over water, marsh & trees back
to the airport...
While flying, for some reason... could it be that the Trike has been sitting
outside for 7 years (?) & the weird pressures the wing was having to endure
to keep itself flying by the hand of an absolute idiot...the wing fabric on
the left side starts coming apart at the left end & continuing inward causing
a huge amount of control pressure correction on the right side (Trike aka:
hang glider) not to mention enough vibration to almost shake the control bar
out of my extremely tight grip.
This of course added to my scan of the bent keel, wondering if it was
bending further & wondering which was going to happen first, the keel & wing
collapsing or was the left wing fabric was going to rip itself to pieces prior
to
my "very seriously in doubt & getting worse" arrival at the airport.
I got lucky.
Me, after landing & continuing to be stupid beyond belief, asks my friend
Mike, who had just landed & was shaking his head horizontally back & forth like
I was totally out of my mind...which I was...if I can fly his Trike back the
beach to pick up the junk I had left there to make the takeoff lighter &
shorter...the only smart thing I did all day.
Another long story short...I crash Mike's Trike on landing & bend the same
friggin' keel bar on Mike's!!! My first ever crash in nearly 30 years of
flying ultralights.
His is much lighter than mine & controls much easier (no excuse). I picked
up some really crappy turbulence just as I chopped power & attempted to land.
It went sideways on me, I corrected too much, it went the other way, I again
corrected too much, was too low, too slow & with the engine at near idle to
go around...with his much smaller tires, they dug in the sand & flipped me
over onto the nose & the keel bent...the same friggin' keel I bent on mine!
Believe it or not, I was going to FLY this f--ker back too but upon
inspection, found that his keel was bent in TWO places with one break showing
sky on
the other side.
Taking it apart while sweating my ass off & getting bit to hell by sweat
bees, sand gnats etc, I'm bending down trying to figure out why in hell the
Trike frame will not collapse (for transport by boat back home...another story).
Anyway, I finally find a small piece of velcro holding up the
situation...pull it apart & WHAM!...the vertical support post falls down onto
my head...on
the corner of the square post no less...& creates a gush of blood that Dracula
would swoon over as well as a huge gash & an actual DENT in my head. Why I
didn't think to get out of the way as soon as I pulled that Velcro is beyond
me.
Forgetting that Mike had put my cell phone in a pocket of his Trike, I walk
& wade a mile down a hot, miserable beach, dripping loads of blood down my
face & body & find a young lady with a cell phone & a terror stricken
face...could it be because of my condition? I call Mike & you can figure the rest.
Did it knock any sense into me....I doubt it.
I would continue but it just gets worse....
Bill Catalina...U-2 pilot
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| From: | "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart(at)onlyinternet.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Control positioning during ground handling |
>
> I can assure you that prop blast also
>hits the horizontal stabilizers, elevators, and rudder of every model,
>including the two I have never flown.
>
John & Kolbers,
If this is so, then why there so little pitch control after you open the
throttle for takeoff? Why did Homer put that little hoop under the nose? Why
do some
even move their landing gear forward? If this was true, I should be able to
hold the stick back against the stop and be able to advance the throttle
aggressively and not put the FireFly on it's nose.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Firestar cruise |
"When I flew an early Firestar with the 35 hp 377, it would cruise true airspeed
of 55 mph at only 5,200 rpm and EGTs were fine. It would cruise a good bit over
60 mph at 5800-5900 rpm but was a lot noisier. And this was with a big canister
BRS hanging down in the breeze below the fuselage. However, it did have
streamlined wing struts but no leg fairings and the prop was a 60" two-blade IVO.
And, it had smallish wheelbarrow tires."
Thom, Sounds exactly, except motor size as mine, to the IVO prop. It appears from
what you stated above that there are or were two cruise speeds. Is this possible?
Like going faster until one exceeds a particular "next level" drag coefficient?
Man, that would be pretty great, I just crank that baby wide open and
get past the shudder and whammo, past the speed of sound! Seriously, is there
a second cruise speed?
And Reverend, My cockpit is closed on both sides to the point of door clearance
from the wings. It is not closed in the back.
And Rick, I am touched deeply that you would let me try one of your props. I do
believe that mine is their factory IVO prop, and believe that it is 66 inches.
Not sure of the pitch. Will check out when back to the plane.
My instructor also indicated that a change in prop would make a difference. There
goes my drug money. Soon I wont have any bad habits, my plane sucked up all
their monies!
Steady as a rock here in Ohio Ralph
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| From: | "The BaronVonEvil" <grageda(at)innw.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Firestar cruise |
Hi Ralph,
I have a Firestar II with a 447 and a PowerFin ground adjustable prop. I will never
claim to be an expert. At fifty-five mph indicated Im turning about 5000
rpm or so. It seems to me that you should be getting a way better performance
from your bird having a 503.
Sounds like you must be dragging buckets of cement or something. :D
I would begin by rechecking your trims and prop. Reduction ratio will make a big
difference as to how your KXP will move along. Verify your tach, it may be
reading higher than actual rpms. Also verify your airspeed indicator with a GPS.
You could be going faster than you think.
Just a few ideas to think about.
Best Regards
Carlos G
AKA The BaronVonEvil
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| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Disaster at Nudie Beach! :( |
Not that I will open my eyes to see the "Nudi's on the beach", but where is this
topic, I need a good laugh.
Ohio Ralph
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| From: | "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle(at)adelphia.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Firestar cruise |
WHOA, RALPH!!
What shudder? This is the first I've heard of that. Tell us more about this shudder.
It needs to be investigated first and foremost.
Mine was smooth as silk up to about 75 mph and then there was no "shudder" but
it was getting a little squirrely and very noisy. It was smooth and comfortable
at all speeds from 40 mph to about 70, just a lot noisier at the higher speeds
than the lower ones. Also, I had a complete enclosure on mine, so if your is
open, it won't go as fast as one that is open. Even with an open cockpit and
a windshield, I would think you should be able to get 60-65 easily enough with
an engine about 37% stronger than mine. When just sight seeing I cruised at
5,200 rpm and 55 mph and burned about 2.6 gph average at that speed. It also
climbed at 700 fpm with a 210 lb pilot and ten gallons of fuel, so I know the
prop was set for a good compromise between climb and cruise.
As one Kolber said, you should maybe look at your prop pitch along with the streamlining
efforts.
--------
Thom in Buffalo
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| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Firestar cruise |
Baron, I have two: one electronic and one mechanical, ASI's as well as two electronic
Tach's. Both are on the Flight II and Engine F-1 glass gauges, and are
correct.
I do however wonder what prop you may be using as there was a conversation on this
site and may still be on-going that talks about RPM and ASI. John H. hit the
nail on the head about my actual RPM verses ASI, our ring-ding motors do like
that 5,500 to 6,500 RPM range. Are your EGT's where they should be? What ASI
are you getting from your cruise? I would "assume" (gulp) that the 447 would
want the same kind of RPS to run effeciently.
And yes, I believe I am dragging a bucket of cement or two. Thats what I want to
work out. Not that 55 is a bad speed, but when I fly over the freeway here in
Ohio, I'd like to at least match speed. And not the my kolb won't do 85 streight,
it isn't the most effecient at doing that.
Ohio Ralph
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| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Firestar cruise |
Thom, there really isn't any "shudder". What I was eluding to was when man first
exceeded the speed of sound, there was a shudder. The plane flew well up to
that point and then shook like it was coming apart and then when the sound barrier
was broken, it went back to normal.
I may have a certain sensitivity to the cruise and also have a gauge telling when
I am climbing or dropping or stable. When I pick an altitude in still air and
level off, it takes a reduction or increase in throttle to maintain that altitude.
For me, it is maintained at 55 and at 5,400-5,600 RPM. From what I read
in what you wrote (that'l make your head spin), it seemed that you had a low
and a high cruise. I must have misread your post. My comment was both serious
as in "are there two cruise speeds?" and If I keep cranking will I "attain" another
cruise speed. Now my head hurts and the winds are high here in Ohio and
the thermals are aggressive and I haven't had a fix (FLYING..PEOPLE, FLYING),
in over a week! Perhaps that's why I not making very much sense.
Ohio Ralph with the shakes!
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Control positioning during ground handling |
If this was true, I should be able to
| hold the stick back against the stop and be able to advance the
throttle
| aggressively and not put the FireFly on it's nose.
|
| Jack B. Hart FF004
Jack B:
This subject is getting beaten to death.
Aggressive throttle control doesn't have any place in aircraft, rotary
or fixed, real ones or UL's.
Pilot technique has a lot to do with how well a Kolb behaves.
Undoubtedly, you have your way of flying and I have mine. I'm not
telling anyone how to fly their airplane. If that is the impression I
gave in previous posts, I was wrong. I like to share how I do it, if
it works well. If it doesn't, I like to share that too, hopefully
someone will learn from it. If not, no sweat.
john h
mkIII
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Firestar cruise |
| And Reverend, My cockpit is closed on both sides to the point of
door clearance from the wings. It is not closed in the back.
|
| Steady as a rock here in Ohio Ralph
Ralph:
Just a guess, but I would think most of your drag is being produced by
your cockpit/cabin configuration. Seems to me like you are flying
around in a big suction cup, e.g., the inclosed front and open rear
cockpit.
The original FS would fly 85 mph WOT straight and level powered by a
447. Cockpit not fully enclosed, but the rear of the fuselage was.
On my FS I put a 6 to 8" fairing, made of lexan, on the top of the
windshield. This increased airspeed by directing air over the center
section. I also flew with 4130 streamlined lift struts.
And........my 447's were cleaned up to make a little more power.
US flew 85 mph straigh and level, WOT, with a 35 hp Cuyuna. My sharp
pointed nose probably helped eliminate some drag sitting completely in
the open.
I think fabric tension has a lot to do with how well a Kolb flies.
When I shrink my fabric, I shrink it until the structure squeals.
Check out my mkIII and you will see evidence of extremely tight fabric
and bowed edges. Sometimes we don't shrink tight enough, making for a
more concave wing bottom and different shape on top of the wing. That
surely must slow us down.
The FS II does not perform nearly as well as the original FS, in my
own humble opinion based on a lot of hours flying both models.
Take care,
john h
hauck's holler, alabama
mkIII/FS/US
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| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Control positioning during ground handling |
John, and others;
I am amazed, truly amazed that there can be two different extremes that provide
the same response from the plane. And as you stated in a previous post, John,
"They all fly, very basically, the same way. I can assure you that prop blast
also hits the horizontal stabilizers, elevators, and rudder of every model,
including the two I have never flown."
All pushers, all Kolbs, all tail draggers and with the little difference of side
by side, front-back, single, as well as engine size and prop size, they all
have the same dynamics of existing physical laws to follow.
Forward stick, all the way, back stick, all the way....absolutely amazes me that
both can possibly work. This single piece of discussion exceeds any piece
of work that I have read (and I have read each and every one from the beginning).
How can that be possible?
The ONLY way that both methods can co-exist is if :
1). Everyone is talking about something completely different but the same in all
outward appearances, like downwind taxiing verses lifting off (going into the
wind). Now when I taxi down to position myself for turning around and taking
off, and there IS wind, I still am full back stick. AMAZING!
2). Controls are backward, you know lefty-loosie,righty-tighty, or mirror image
as in being levitated and looking back at yourself from without rather than within.
AMAZING!
Did I say AMAZING here in Ohio Ralph?
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| From: | "The BaronVonEvil" <grageda(at)innw.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Firestar cruise |
Hi Ralph,
Here is another thought, when you get a chance please post some photos of your
bird in its present state. Sort of do a walk around of your plane so that all
us wanna be aerodynamisist can look at your plane. We may be able to spot something
here or there that might help you gain the needed speed you desire. ( We
promise to ignore the Cement bucket!).
My EGT and CHT are right where they should be. I run a 62" PowerFin composite,
ground adjustable prop that seems to be just the ticket. I have a 447 with a
B box with the 2.59 reduction. Its a pull start engine.
Looking forward to the pictures...
Best regards
Carlos G
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| From: | "David Key" <dhkey(at)msn.com> |
| Subject: | Flaps uneven?!?! |
I am hooking up the flap horns and I noticed that both flaps stick up about
1/2 inch higher than the ailerons.... I guess the silver lining is that both
sides do it... Any thoughts on this? Has anyone else seen this?
Sorry for large pics.
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| From: | "John Murr" <jdm(at)wideworld.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Firestar cruise |
Ralph,
My original Firestar cruises at about 60-65 mph at 5,800 with a 503 DCDI.
John Murr
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 7:44 AM
>
>
> Fantastic, Gentlemen, and thank you.
>
> Here goes:
> RPM is between 5,600 and 5,800 RPM at cruise. Struts are streamlined
> thanks to my predecessor. Gaps between all air foil hinged area are gap
> sealed, but only on one side. I believe ailerons are on the underside,
> will need to check if that makes any difference. Rudder is on the Port
> side. I noted the Preacher stated something along the lines of landing
> gear legs. What is there are round plastic tubes, who's I.D.'s are
> slightly larger than the legs themselves. They are the Kolb longer legs.
>
> I never remember experiencing the "defined" feeling of cruise when I was
> flying the Challenger. It sure is noticeable in the Kolb. Plus my
> Flightstar II climb / descend indication shows precisely where that point
> is. Sounds like the only thing left is streamlining the legs. Will that
> make any significant difference? If so, I may do it out of the Mylar
> initially.
>
> Thank you each one, again for your help. And "IS" 55 a typical cruise
> speed for the Firestar?
>
> Ohio Ralph
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
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>
>
>
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Flaps uneven?!?! |
David:
There is a lot of down force on the ailerons in flight. If you put
pressure on them with you hand, they will drop quite a bit. In this
configuration, flaps will help overcome some of the nose down pitch
normal with a high thrust line, especially the mkIII and a high
powered engine.
Mine are adjusted very similar.
john h
mkIII
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| From: | Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Firestar cruise |
On Aug 1, 2006, at 12:17 PM, Richard Pike wrote:
> On our FSII, it has a 582, and runs 55 mph at 5000 rpm. At 5800
> rpm, you better to have the nose up and be climbing.
Rich,
What diameter prop are you guys turning?
My 582 FSII 55 mph = 4700 rpm but I sacrificed some climb
performance.
I have a 72" IVO and a 2.58 B box.
Fuel burn = 2.5 gal. per hr.
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| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Disaster at Nudie Beach! :( |
Man, I don't know what it is but I also feel relieved and at ease. I guess the
many problems I am having are really unimportant in comparison. Wow, Thanks Mike.
OOooooooo Ralph Hi, oh!
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| From: | Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Flaps uneven?!?! |
On Aug 1, 2006, at 5:26 PM, David Key wrote:
> I am hooking up the flap horns and I noticed that both flaps stick
> up about 1/2 inch higher than the ailerons.... I guess the silver
> lining is that both sides do it... Any thoughts on this? Has anyone
> else seen this?
Bummer, hate when that happens!
No easy fix that I know of.
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Flaps uneven?!?! |
|
|
| On Aug 1, 2006, at 5:26 PM, David Key wrote:
|
| > I am hooking up the flap horns and I noticed that both flaps stick
| > up about 1/2 inch higher than the ailerons....
|
| Bummer, hate when that happens!
|
| No easy fix that I know of.
Hi Gang:
I was assuming it was the trailing edges of the flaps that were
sticking up higher than the ailerons.
Maybe David is talking about where they hang on the hinge line.
john h
mkIII
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| We saw Miss P'Fer several times over Camp Scholler and a few times
on the UL
| field but I can never quite figure out how to get from the crowd
portion of
| the UL area to the flight line.
|
| We did wave at you several times though, John.
|
| Todd
Todd:
The UL tie down/camping area leaves a lot to be desired.
Places the airplanes as far away from the spectators as possible.
To get over to where we camp, one must come through one of the gates
on the east side of the flight line, walk around the north or south
end of the UL airstrip.
I have tried to get the UL powers to be to change the policy and let
us tie down so the crowd can see our airplanes, yet also allow us to
camp with our airplanes.
It is a pain in the butt to have to walk a mile around your elbow to
get in and out every time you need something from your airplane.
john h
mkIII
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| From: | "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Flaps uneven?!?! |
David, I adjusted the flaps using the threaded connectors on the pushrod
ends to get the trailing edges of flaps and ailerons in line. Kolb doesn't
use a left hand thread on one end so that it acts like a turnbuckle (at
least they didn't on mine) so you have to disconnect one end to adjust them.
Also make sure the flap bellhorns are installed per the plans. The guy who
built my airplane apparently didn't understand how to align them and when I
got a touch of aileron flutter one bellhorn got into my nice new Warp Drive
and took out $500 worth of prop blades in short order.
Which leads to another suggestion, make sure you install the aileron counter
balances. If they didn't come with your kit, call Travis today and order a
set.
Rick
On 8/1/06, John Hauck wrote:
>
>
> |
> |
> | On Aug 1, 2006, at 5:26 PM, David Key wrote:
> |
> | > I am hooking up the flap horns and I noticed that both flaps stick
> | > up about 1/2 inch higher than the ailerons....
>
>
>
>
> |
> | Bummer, hate when that happens!
> |
> | No easy fix that I know of.
>
> Hi Gang:
>
> I was assuming it was the trailing edges of the flaps that were
> sticking up higher than the ailerons.
>
> Maybe David is talking about where they hang on the hinge line.
>
> john h
> mkIII
>
>
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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| From: | Todd Fredricks <flyingfox(at)copper.net> |
Well it was good to see you from a medium distance at any rate. Next year we
should have a good solid forward operating base at Camp Scholler so after
you walk a mile around the elbow you'll have to come by for some grilled
stuff.
Todd
On 8/1/06 8:24 PM, "John Hauck" wrote:
>
>
>
> | We saw Miss P'Fer several times over Camp Scholler and a few times
> on the UL
> | field but I can never quite figure out how to get from the crowd
> portion of
> | the UL area to the flight line.
> |
> | We did wave at you several times though, John.
> |
> | Todd
>
>
> Todd:
>
> The UL tie down/camping area leaves a lot to be desired.
>
> Places the airplanes as far away from the spectators as possible.
>
> To get over to where we camp, one must come through one of the gates
> on the east side of the flight line, walk around the north or south
> end of the UL airstrip.
>
> I have tried to get the UL powers to be to change the policy and let
> us tie down so the crowd can see our airplanes, yet also allow us to
> camp with our airplanes.
>
> It is a pain in the butt to have to walk a mile around your elbow to
> get in and out every time you need something from your airplane.
>
> john h
> mkIII
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
--
Todd Fredricks, DO
Flying Fox Services
Visit my Blog at www.flyingfoxhangar.blogspot.com
Photos Located at http://www.flickr.com/photos/flyingfoxservices/
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| From: | "George Alexander" <gtalexander(at)att.net> |
Kolbers:
Back in FL after a great week in Oshkosh and visiting with some of the Kolb family.
Attached are just a few pics of some of them.
--------
George Alexander
http://gtalexander.home.att.net
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| From: | "N111KX (Kip)" <n111kx(at)mindspring.com> |
Excellent adventure, John. Thanks for all of the little the details as we all picture
ourselves experiencing the same events that make for such a memorable trip...
Kip
--------
Kip
Firestar II (born September 2000)
Atlanta, GA
N111KX
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| From: | Richard Pike <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
| Subject: | Re: Firestar cruise |
Got a correction - all this talk about Firestars got the best of me, so
I went flying a little while ago. And discovered I remembered my numbers
all wrong. My apologies, and here is what it really is.
First flight, the prop had too much pitch for this hot air, made the
EGT's way too low, but the airspeed/rpm ratio was nice.
4800 rpm= 58mph
4900=60
5000=62
5300=70
5500=75
5700
The tach in the EIS was being silly around 51-5200 rpm, so no speeds
recorded there.
Landed and took 3/4 of a turn of pitch out of the Ivoprop and tried it
again, the airspeed/rpm ratio was not as good, but the EGT's were up to
normal.
4600=48
4800=51
5000=55
5200=66
5400=70
5600=75
5800=78
There is not as perfect a correlation between rpm and airspeeds as I
would like, the tach in the EIS tends not to settle at any certain rpm,
it hops around a bit, (Is this normal?) so there is a certain lack of
precision here, but I think you get the general idea.
And it has a 68" Ivo 2 blade, and a 2.58:1 gearbox. I don't know what it
burns an hour, since I am not the one that usually flies it, but it is
more than 2.5 gph.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Eugene Zimmerman wrote:
>
>
> On Aug 1, 2006, at 12:17 PM, Richard Pike wrote:
>
>> On our FSII, it has a 582, and runs 55 mph at 5000 rpm. At 5800 rpm,
>> you better to have the nose up and be climbing.
>
>
> Rich,
> What diameter prop are you guys turning?
>
> My 582 FSII 55 mph = 4700 rpm but I sacrificed some climb performance.
> I have a 72" IVO and a 2.58 B box.
>
> Fuel burn = 2.5 gal. per hr.
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List
> http://wiki.matronics.com
>
>
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| From: | Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Flaps uneven?!?! |
On Aug 1, 2006, at 7:30 PM, John Hauck wrote:
> Maybe David is talking about where they hang on the hinge line.
Looks like a hinge line problem to me.
Requires removing and reattaching the hinges.
This problem happen when rivets are set and are not exactly on the
apex of the tubes they attach to.
It is very easy to make this mistake.
I always first use a few aluminum rivets to attach each hinge and
double check the alignment before final riveting.
Replace the aluminum rivets with steel when alignment is confirmed.
Trailing edge no big problem.
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| From: | "David Key" <dhkey(at)msn.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Flaps uneven?!?! |
Thanks John and Richard.
I have a prop extension so my warp should be fine, but I understand the
plans anyway.
I do have the aileron counter balances. No instructions with the counter
balances. Should I just drill out the outer aileron ends and slide them in
then adjust the slide out till the aileron is inline with the bottom of the
wing?
I'm less than a month away from first flight and closing fast. I'm going to
start the engine tomorrow.
>From: "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com>
>Reply-To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
>To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Flaps uneven?!?!
>Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 19:38:39 -0500
>
>David, I adjusted the flaps using the threaded connectors on the pushrod
>ends to get the trailing edges of flaps and ailerons in line. Kolb doesn't
>use a left hand thread on one end so that it acts like a turnbuckle (at
>least they didn't on mine) so you have to disconnect one end to adjust
>them.
>Also make sure the flap bellhorns are installed per the plans. The guy who
>built my airplane apparently didn't understand how to align them and when I
>got a touch of aileron flutter one bellhorn got into my nice new Warp Drive
>and took out $500 worth of prop blades in short order.
>Which leads to another suggestion, make sure you install the aileron
>counter
>balances. If they didn't come with your kit, call Travis today and order a
>set.
>
>Rick
>
>On 8/1/06, John Hauck wrote:
>>
>>
>>
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>>| On Aug 1, 2006, at 5:26 PM, David Key wrote:
>>|
>>| > I am hooking up the flap horns and I noticed that both flaps stick
>>| > up about 1/2 inch higher than the ailerons....
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>>| Bummer, hate when that happens!
>>|
>>| No easy fix that I know of.
>>
>>Hi Gang:
>>
>>I was assuming it was the trailing edges of the flaps that were
>>sticking up higher than the ailerons.
>>
>>Maybe David is talking about where they hang on the hinge line.
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>>john h
>>mkIII
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>
>--
>Rick Girard
>"Ya'll drop on in"
>takes on a whole new meaning
>when you live at the airport.
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| From: | "Ralph" <ul15rhb(at)juno.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Firestar cruise |
-- "John Murr" wrote:
Ralph,
My original Firestar cruises at about 60-65 mph at 5,800 with a 503
DCDI.
John Murr
John M,
Mine does the same speed at 5200 with a 447 SC and streamlined struts,
long windshield.
Ralph
Original Firestar
19 years flying it
N91493
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 7:44 AM
>
>
> Fantastic, Gentlemen, and thank you.
>
> Here goes:
> RPM is between 5,600 and 5,800 RPM at cruise. Struts are streamlined
> thanks to my predecessor. Gaps between all air foil hinged area are
gap
> sealed, but only on one side. I believe ailerons are on the
underside,
> will need to check if that makes any difference. Rudder is on the
Port
> side. I noted the Preacher stated something along the lines of
landing
> gear legs. What is there are round plastic tubes, who's I.D.'s are
> slightly larger than the legs themselves. They are the Kolb longer
legs.
>
> I never remember experiencing the "defined" feeling of cruise when I
was
> flying the Challenger. It sure is noticeable in the Kolb. Plus my
> Flightstar II climb / descend indication shows precisely where that
point
> is. Sounds like the only thing left is streamlining the legs. Will
that
> make any significant difference? If so, I may do it out of the Mylar
> initially.
>
> Thank you each one, again for your help. And "IS" 55 a typical
cruise
> speed for the Firestar?
>
> Ohio Ralph
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=51435#51435
>
>
>
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________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Firestar cruise |
Rich,
My EIS tack seem to be steady and accurate up to 6400 rpm. Over that
it goes nuts and jumps to over 8000 rpm.
On Aug 1, 2006, at 9:22 PM, Richard Pike wrote:
> There is not as perfect a correlation between rpm and airspeeds as
> I would like, the tach in the EIS tends not to settle at any
> certain rpm, it hops around a bit, (Is this normal?) so there is a
> certain lack of precision here, but I think you get the general idea.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62(at)earthlink.net> |
Hi George,
Thanks for sharing the picts !
Gene
On Aug 1, 2006, at 9:13 PM, George Alexander wrote:
> Kolbers:
> Back in FL after a great week in Oshkosh and visiting with some of
> the Kolb family. Attached are just a few pics of some of them.
>
> --------
> George Alexander
> http://gtalexander.home.att.net
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | possums <possums(at)mindspring.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Control positioning during ground handling |
At 04:41 PM 8/1/2006, you wrote:
>
>
>Forward stick, all the way, back stick, all the way....absolutely
>amazes me that both can possibly work. This single piece of
>discussion exceeds any piece of work that I have read (and I have
>read each and every one from the beginning). How can that be possible?
Depends on the weather - we always - and I mean "always" check the
weather (safety first).
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | possums <possums(at)mindspring.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Disaster at Nudie Beach! :( |
At 02:49 PM 8/1/2006, you wrote:
>Bill,
>
> Talk about a bad hair day!!!
>
>Anyway, I finally find a small piece of velcro holding up the
>situation...pull it apart & WHAM!...the vertical support post falls
>down onto my head... creates a gush of blood that Dracula would
>swoon over as well as a huge gash & an actual DENT in my head. Why I
>didn't think to get out of the way as soon as I pulled that Velcro
>is beyond me.
>
>Did it knock any sense into me....I doubt it.
>
>I would continue but it just gets worse....
You could be a "Possum" too
http://www.mindspring.com/~possums/DeadPossum.jpg
http://www.mindspring.com/~possums/
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | DAquaNut(at)aol.com |
Anyone Know of a source for the gas cap that fits the standard 5- gallon
tank other than TNK?
Ed
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "John Cooley" <johnc(at)datasync.com> |
Hi Ed,
Would you be interested in a used one or two? I have two old tanks that came
out of the Twinstar I sold that has the standard cap with screwed in plug
and small vent hole.
Later,
John Cooley
_____
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of DAquaNut(at)aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 1:05 AM
Anyone Know of a source for the gas cap that fits the standard 5-
gallon tank other than TNK?
Ed
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
Morning Gang:
I have a chance to upgrade my mkIII with a new 912ULS.
Therefore, my 912ULS is now for sale.
Date Purchased: Feb 2000
Total Time: 1,200 hours
Upgrades:
Slip clutch
High torque starter
Recent carb upgrades
Will have the gear box pulled and inspected prior to sale. At this
time, torsional vibration damper will be reshimmed, as necessary, to
bring it into specs.
All accessories that come with a new 912ULS will go with this engine;
oil tank, voltage regulator/rectifier.
Engine produces identical power today that it did when new.
Never used any oil.
Never quit running for any reason.
This engine powered my mkIII to Point Barrow, Alaska, on two separate
flights. Also Tuktoyaktuk, North West Territory, Canada, and many
flights to the West Coast and back.
Engine has crossed the Rocky Mountains many times, pushing the mkIII
as high as 15,000 feet.
If you are interested in purchasing this 912ULS, please call me:
334-567-6280 (H)
334-315-2621 (C)
Or you may email me:
jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com
The 912UL and 912ULS engines have extraordinary reputations as being
extremely reliable. It is not uncommon for a 912 series engine to run
well beyond 2,500 hours. If I did not have a chance to upgrade at
this time, I would have no qualms to continue flying this engine to
3,000 hours and beyond.
I am selling this engine for $7,995.00.
john h
mkIII
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: For Sale 912ULS |
| Therefore, my 912ULS is now for sale.
| john h
Hello again:
Reference sale of my 912ULS, the engine is still mounted on my mkIII.
Will be more than happy to demonstrate performance of engine prior to
sale.
Engine is located in Titus, Alabama, approximately 25 miles north of
Montgomery, Alabama.
May be able to work out delivery of engine, depending on buyer's
location.
john h
mkIII
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | APilot(at)webtv.net |
| Subject: | Re: Flaps uneven- Gas cap |
What do some Mark III pilot use for fuel tanks? I was thinking of a
fuel cell. Any suggestions? Also, do you have an idea of how long the
plastic tanks will last?
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | APilot(at)webtv.net |
| Subject: | Re: Control positioning during ground handling |
Why did Homer put the hoop under the nose cone? Don't know, but I sure
do like it. It prevents my nose from hitting when I spin it around by
holding one brake and full rudder in case I add too much throttle.
Also, it lets me do a full throttle run up which my Geo needs in the
winter time to warm up. The nose skid and full brakes will hold it at
full power which then lets me set the prop pitch to 6000 rpm for best
power climb. I can adjust the pitch during the takeoff roll, but that
requires extra attention.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | APilot(at)webtv.net |
One thing that I like about my Mark III is that when you get close to a
stall, it starts acting strange. Kind of like a silent stall warning
device that is telling you to get the nose down a little.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | APilot(at)webtv.net |
| Subject: | Re: flap takeoff |
My landings are hard too. Everything looks fine and I expect it to
settle in on three points. But, it doesn't settle....just
drops.......bam. It is worse with no flaps. Carrying a little power
makes things much easier, but I prefer power off landings. At 2000 rpms
(smooth idle), the thrust is 20 lbs. and I imagine that it simulates the
dynamics of a stopped prop landing. Will find out more when I start my
ignition off landing practice.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: flap takeoff |
|
| My landings are hard too. Everything looks fine and I expect it to
| settle in on three points. But, it doesn't settle....just
| drops.......bam.
APilot:
The airplane is landing exactly like any airplane lands. If you are
too high when it stalls, it will quit flying, and hit hard. If you
place the airplane a few inches off the ground, hold it until it
stalls, it will land nice and gentle.
At 2000 rpms
| (smooth idle), the thrust is 20 lbs. and I imagine that it simulates
the
| dynamics of a stopped prop landing.
Not quite. The slowly rotating prop acts just as though it were a
large disc, creating a lot of drag. When the prop is stopped, the
only drag experienced is the actual area of each blade. There is a
lot of difference between dead stick and engine idling landings.
My own personal experience only. However, most Kolbs fly very much
alike.
john h
mkIII
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Chris Mallory" <wcm(at)tampabay.rr.com> |
DEDICATED TO ALL THOSE WHO FLEW BEHIND ROUND ENGINES
We gotta get rid of those turbines, they're ruining aviation and our
hearing...
A turbine is too simple minded, it has no mystery. The air travels
through it in a straight line and doesn't pick up any of the pungent
fragrance of engine oil or pilot sweat.
Anybody can start a turbine. You just need to move a switch from "OFF"
to "START" and then remember to move it back to "ON" after a while. My
PC is harder to start.
Cranking a round engine requires skill, finesse and style. You have
to seduce it into starting. It's like waking up a horny mistress. On
some planes, the pilots aren't even allowed to do it...
Turbines start by whining for a while, then give a lady-like poof and
start whining a little louder.
Round engines give
When you start a round engine, your mind is engaged and you can
concentrate on the flight ahead. Starting a turbine is like flicking on
a ceiling fan: Useful, but, hardly exciting.
When you have started his round engine successfully your Crew Chief
looks up at you like he'd let you kiss his girl, too!
Turbines don't break or catch fire often enough, which leads to aircrew
boredom, complacency and inattention. A round engine at speed looks
and sounds like it's going to blow any minute. This helps concentrate the
mind!
Turbines don't have enough control levers or gauges to keep a pilot's
attention. There's nothing to fiddle with during long flights.
Turbines smell like a Boy Scout camp full of Coleman Lamps. Round
engines smell like God intended machines to smell.
P
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: flap takeoff |
APilot
John is right, stabilize your approach and fly it down to just a few inches
off the ground and it will settle in nice and smooth. The problem is holding
that approach down just till just that right point a few inches above the
ground before you flair. If you are used to big general aviation airplanes
you will have more problems doing this than any one else because you are
used to airplanes that have allot more inertia than a MKIII. Getting a good
landing with no power isn't easy. The more flaps you use with no power the
more difficult it will be. I can't say this enough till you are used to your
airplane "you need to carry power all the way in till you are inches above
the ground". Hold the stick steady and cut the power and it will raise the
nose all by its self just a bit and settle in nice as can be. Do this till
have it down cold. THEN start using less and less power but don't rush this
part.
I like to land with some power all the time with one notch of flaps. But do
what makes you happy and safe. One notch of flap cuts the stall speed a bit
and the float in ground effect. Also a Kolb MKIIIc will land with no power
(off, stopped, dead) with no flaps just about like it does with some power
and one notch of flap.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:40 PM
>
> My landings are hard too. Everything looks fine and I expect it to
> settle in on three points. But, it doesn't settle....just
> drops.......bam. It is worse with no flaps. Carrying a little power
> makes things much easier, but I prefer power off landings. At 2000 rpms
> (smooth idle), the thrust is 20 lbs. and I imagine that it simulates the
> dynamics of a stopped prop landing. Will find out more when I start my
> ignition off landing practice.
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Flying to the 2005 Kolb Homecoming |
Aaproaching Fontana Dam, NC, is James Tripp, Millbrook, AL, in his 503
powered Kolb FSII. James and the FS sure look small in front of that
big dam.
john h
mkIIII
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: flap takeoff |
When I startred flying my Kolb MkIII, my landings were inconsistent. For the
purposes of this missive, inconsistent is defined as, do five landings or
less, remove gear legs, straighten same, and reinstall. I'm reeeaaaaal good
at straightening gear legs.
This went on through the winter and into the spring. I was pretty bummed and
one day while I was on the phone with Travis, I told him I was having
problems, I just couldn't seem to get my flair right. I would land perfectly
once or twice, then WHAM, time to go see Mr. Press again.
"You've got to learn to wheel land this airplane and stop trying to three
point it. You learn to wheel land this airplane and you'll like it just
fine."
Travis, I am convinced, is a genius. I dug out my copy of "The Compleat
Taildragger Pilot" by Harvey S. Plourde. Whatta ya know, "learn to wheel
land the taildragger first, then advance to three point landings".
Mr.Plourde's reason? Basically, with the wheel landing, you're more likely
to get a landing rather than an arrival. Okay, that's a little terse, but
it's the essence.
I started working on wheel landings, I bounced a little, but not too bad or
too high and I never slammed in again. My landings got smoother. Quite a bit
of the improvement was due to my hands and feet slowly evolving from large
hams to instruments capable of a bit of delicacy. Now I can truly say that
Yesterday, I couldn't spell taildragger pilot, today I are one.
Mr. Press is very, very lonely.
Rick
On 8/2/06, Richard & Martha Neilsen wrote:
>
> NeilsenRM(at)comcast.net>
>
> APilot
>
> John is right, stabilize your approach and fly it down to just a few
> inches
> off the ground and it will settle in nice and smooth. The problem is
> holding
> that approach down just till just that right point a few inches above the
> ground before you flair. If you are used to big general aviation airplanes
> you will have more problems doing this than any one else because you are
> used to airplanes that have allot more inertia than a MKIII. Getting a
> good
> landing with no power isn't easy. The more flaps you use with no power the
> more difficult it will be. I can't say this enough till you are used to
> your
> airplane "you need to carry power all the way in till you are inches above
> the ground". Hold the stick steady and cut the power and it will raise the
> nose all by its self just a bit and settle in nice as can be. Do this till
> have it down cold. THEN start using less and less power but don't rush
> this
> part.
>
> I like to land with some power all the time with one notch of flaps. But
> do
> what makes you happy and safe. One notch of flap cuts the stall speed a
> bit
> and the float in ground effect. Also a Kolb MKIIIc will land with no power
> (off, stopped, dead) with no flaps just about like it does with some power
> and one notch of flap.
>
> Rick Neilsen
> Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:40 PM
>
>
> >
> > My landings are hard too. Everything looks fine and I expect it to
> > settle in on three points. But, it doesn't settle....just
> > drops.......bam. It is worse with no flaps. Carrying a little power
> > makes things much easier, but I prefer power off landings. At 2000 rpms
> > (smooth idle), the thrust is 20 lbs. and I imagine that it simulates the
> > dynamics of a stopped prop landing. Will find out more when I start my
> > ignition off landing practice.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Kolb Firestar feel is a max mph crosswind that you would attempt
to make a
| landing.
| Jim swan
Jim:
Anything over 15 mph 90 deg cross wind will certainly overpower the
rudder on FS's and other model Kolbs.
I know, I know. Some on the Kolb List are doing 90 deg cross wind
landings at 25+ mph. Only thing I can say about that is they are a
lot more experienced flying in wind than I am. One day I hope to
learn their technique.
Kolbs usually land slow enough to land most any place, like across the
runway at larger airports, to get the nose into the wind. When the
wind is honking, I try to get as much of the nose into the wind as I
can.
Another normal procedure that works well with Kolbs, as it does other
airplanes, is to drop the wing on the up wind side and hold it through
touchdown. Get a lot more out of your Kolb that way.
All the above are my own humble opinions. Don't try them at home.
This year at OSH we flew with a 90 deg cross wind at 15 to 18 mph. A
lot of mechanical turbulence from the houses, barns, large trees,
etc., created an exciting atmosphere for landing. Good practice.
Take care,
john h
mkIII
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| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
John, If Ed isn't, I sure would be, including the gas tanks. how much would you
want for them? Mine is origional 1990 production as dated by mfgr on molded bottom.
I epoxied a small crack near the right rear corner up near the 5 gal. level. It
appears to hold well but I have not been able to find a 10 x 10 x 14 inch heavy
walled poly tank as used in the Forestar.
Ohio Ralph
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=51946#51946
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| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
Hey Matt, I noticed when I responded to a subject "Flaps uneven- Gas cap aka Fuel
cell" that it gave it a new name in the subject as "gas cap" and created a
new subject.
This isn't the first time I have seen this, by others as well as myself. Is there
something we as posters are doing incorrectly?
Ohio Ralph
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=51949#51949
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| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Flaps uneven- Gas cap |
Per the "how long do they last", On the bottom of almost all blow molded products
is a molded in date stamp of some form. Even if the manufacturer's name is
not apparent, you should at least see a year and month in small boxes. Mine on
the Firestar was produced in June of 1990. It has seen better days. However if
you use the proper epoxy for a small crack or hole as a temp fix, it will bond
and hold. THe key is finding a epoxy that will attack the poly material, adhering
while not breaking down from fuel additives or the different gas configurations.
Ohio Ralph
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=51951#51951
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
Hi Folks:
My 912ULS I advertised on the List this morning is sold.
john h
mkIII
________________________________________________________________________________
That was easy. Did you sell it to anyone around here?
Bill
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
Hi Bill:
You old movie star you...............
Saw you twice Channel 12 last night. Did a fine job too.
Gentleman over on Johns Island, SC, just south of Charleston, bought
it.
He is building a MKIIIx. Travis Brown told him about it. He called
me this morning. Then called again this evening and said he wanted
it. Did not dicker about the price either.
john h
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: For Sale 912ULS |
Hi Gang:
The 912ULS I advertised for sale this morning has sold.
Thanks,
john h
mkIII
--------
John Hauck
MKIII/912ULS
hauck's holler, alabama
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=51968#51968
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| You old movie star you...............
Gang:
As most of you may have gathered by now, the previous post was not
intended for the Kolb List. Please disregard.
Xin Loi,
john h
mkIII
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| From: | "john s. flannery" <jsflan(at)valornet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: flap takeoff |
My flap problem on the acquired Mark III is that the detentes the flap
handle uses have been pretty much destroyed. I can't use them. So I have
secured the flaps full up with a hose clamp (not shown). I wonder, since
the other Kolb here at TorC Airport has no flaps and I have no other
reference, if someone can send me a jpg and or drawings of the appropriate
area the handle engages. Can't tell from what's left whether there should be
more detentes. A local A&P says he can make one and rivet it over what's
left. But he has no idea how many notches there should be, or their spacing.
Can someone also provide the measurements and spacing of the... what shall
we call them...hooks, flaps detentes, catches...?
Thanks,
jsf
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 8:16 AM
>
>
> Just a further comment on flaps. Those of us that fly the MKIII
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Richard Pike <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
| Subject: | Re: flap takeoff |
If you want to be creative, you can have as many notches as you
want...even some reflex, so you don't need as much up elevator trim when
you are carrying a passenger -
http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/pg3.htm
If you are interested, contact me off list, and I'll send you some more
pictures tomorrow.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
john s. flannery wrote:
> My flap problem on the acquired Mark III is that the detentes the flap
> handle uses have been pretty much destroyed. I can't use them. So I
> have secured the flaps full up with a hose clamp (not shown). I
> wonder, since the other Kolb here at TorC Airport has no flaps and I
> have no other reference, if someone can send me a jpg and or drawings
> of the appropriate area the handle engages. Can't tell from what's
> left whether there should be more detentes. A local A&P says he can
> make one and rivet it over what's left. But he has no idea how many
> notches there should be, or their spacing. Can someone also provide
> the measurements and spacing of the... what shall we call
> them...hooks, flaps detentes, catches...?
> Thanks,
>
> jsf
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | APilot(at)webtv.net |
| Subject: | Re: flap takeoff |
Thank you for the landing advice.
Vic in Sacramento
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | APilot(at)webtv.net |
| Subject: | Re: Flaps uneven- Gas cap aka Fuel cell |
Answer: Yes, I did mean to say fuel cell. A friend of mine thinks that
it is very dangerous to have a few gallons of gas behind the seat in
case of a crash. He installed a fuel cell in his dune buggy for about
$150. The size that he bought will not fit in my Mark III. Seems that
most Kolb pilots do not think of this as a danger.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "David Key" <dhkey(at)msn.com> |
Does someone have a check list they can email me? I need one for my
preflights and didn't want to start from scratch.
Thanks,
David
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "John Cooley" <johnc(at)datasync.com> |
Hi Ralph/Gang,
I know one of the tanks is busted. The other may be ok, I'd just have to
check. They came out of a Twinstar and have holes in the bottom for the fuel
lines.
I would give them to whoever wants them. I would be willing to just ship the
caps to Ed or whoever if Ed doesnt want them. If someone wanted the tank,
if it's any good, I might ask for some shipping cost.
Later,
John Cooley
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph Hoover
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 7:56 PM
John, If Ed isn't, I sure would be, including the gas tanks. how much would
you want for them? Mine is origional 1990 production as dated by mfgr on
molded bottom.
I epoxied a small crack near the right rear corner up near the 5 gal. level.
It appears to hold well but I have not been able to find a 10 x 10 x 14 inch
heavy walled poly tank as used in the Forestar.
Ohio Ralph
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=51946#51946
--
--
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Thom Riddle <jtriddle(at)adelphia.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Flaps uneven- Gas cap aka Fuel cell |
Sounds to me like folks are thinking two different definitions with
regard to the term fuel cell. Here is what Merriam-Webster says about
"fuel cell".
http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/fuel%20cell
That is the kind of fuel cell that is supposed to keep our
grandchildren from running out of gas when we are long gone.
I've heard the fuel bladders like those used in some race cars called
fuel cells but that is not standard usage. Of course we have lots of
non-standard users of English on this list, so who cares?
Thom in Buffalo
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| From: | "Larry Bourne" <biglar(at)gogittum.com> |
| Subject: | Gas cap aka Fuel cell |
Yah, the gadget in that definition is a fuel cell, but the automotive fuel
tank replacement is a different thing. Very much a safety item, they're a
very good idea. Take a look at another website:
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/nascar-safety1.htm Lar.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 5:07 AM
>
> Sounds to me like folks are thinking two different definitions with regard
> to the term fuel cell. Here is what Merriam-Webster says about "fuel
> cell".
>
> http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/fuel%20cell
>
>
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
Morning All:
Kolb has new 6 gal plastic fuel tanks for $25.00. Same dimensions as
old tanks, except a few inches taller.
5 gal tanks are $20.00.
This was the price stickers on the tanks at OSH.
Call Travis at Kolb and check'em out.
john h
mkIII
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| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
John, Sounds like the aged problem I have also, if one of the tanks is busted.
Once they breakdown, there they are. That UV lasts a long time but on mine having
the upper area exposed for 16 years does take it's toll.
I have an aduquate cap right now. It's not in bad shape. I have found some other
tanks, even a 10 x 10 x 24 that would do the job, but the manufacturer doesn't
make it with the proper "skin" coating and therefore recoments that it not
be used for lawn mower gas tank (wink, wink). I'm not sure how long a life it
would have. At $74.00 plus shipping and fill hole kit, I'm not about to experiment.
Thanks for your offer,
Ohio Ralph
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| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Kolb Fuel Tanks |
John, Your a blessing in more ways than one. Thanks for the information. You have
allowed many of us "One hour safe drivers", the dignity and respect of you
"Professional Drivers" , by expanding our range! I owe you a big frosted mug cold
one.
Now I can truly go far and wide and see this vision that they say that the world
is truly round. This I have feared as until now, was only to believe that it
would be but a dream! Ah, to go past the edge of my pattern without fear of running
out of fuel. Now my idiocy will need be better spent on some other stupid
mistake.
"If there were no other wisdom, than that expounded upon by this man, this day,
it would still be the most complete of all my days." Leopold Crasinsky
Kinda brings tears of joy to my eyes!
Ralph, Jumping for joy here in Ohio!
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| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
Someone made this one for my Firestar: It is very detailed. You may add or subtract.
I would like to see what others are using and maby come up with a better
one.
Ohio Ralph
Firestar:Preflight Checklist
Pitot tube: extended / clear
Static Port: clear
Lift Strut (lower): pinned / safety clip
Wheel / brakes: nut & cotter pin / axle bolts
Lift Strut (top): pinned / safety clip
Leading Edge: check for dents
Wing Tip: aileron counter weight secure
Aileron: hinge pins/cotter pins
Aileron Control Rod:
Pinned / safety clip / bottom bolt & nut
Gap Seal: secured
Wing Swivels: Bolts / nuts / cotter pins
Wing "Main" Pins: pinned / safety clip
Exhaust: muffler bolts / springs / safety wire
Prop: secure / nicks / spinner / leading edge tape
Tailboom: main bolt / nut / check for dents
Horizontal Stabilize: front bolt / nut / cotter pin
Guide Wires: good tension
Elevator Hinges: pins / cotter pins / bolt / nut
Elevator Control Cables:
Cleviss / bolts / nuts / cotter pins
Rudder Control Cables:
Cleviss / bolts / nuts / cotter pins
Rudder Hinges: pins / cotter pins
Tailwheel: springs / bolts /nuts / cotter pin
Guide Wire: bolt / castle nut / safety clip
Elevator Hinges: pins / cotter pins / bolt / nut
Guide Wires: good tension
Horizontal Stabilizer: front bolt / nut / cotter pin
Tailboom: main bolt / nut / check for dents
Aileron Control Rod:
Pinned / safety clip / bottom bolt & nut
Gap Seal: secured
Fuel Pump: fuel lines / pulse line / secured
Spark Plug Wires: secured
Carburetors:
Secure / filters secure / safety wire / fuel lines
Oil Injection: tank/ pump/ site gauge / cap secured / safety wire
Throttle Cables: secured
Lord Mounts: bolts/ nuts / mounting plate
Aileron: hinge pins/cotter pins
Wing Tip: aileron counter weight secure
Leading Edge: check for dents
Lift Strut (top): pinned / safety clip
Lift Strut (lower): pinned / safety clip
Wheel brakes: / nut & cotter pin / axle bolts
Fuel Tanks: FULL
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| From: | "David Key" <dhkey(at)msn.com> |
Thanks it's a good start.
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| From: | "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
| Subject: | Re: flap takeoff |
Here are some closeups of the mechanism. The detent with the holes in it is bolted
on to the flat front part of the original detent piece. The handle is modified
by making it longer (easier to pull flaps on, more leverage) and also bent
a bit to fit under my lowered windshield.
I drilled a hole through the handle tube and welded in a bushing, and then drove
a roll pin into the bushing. I located the holes for the various flap detent
positions by attaching that piece to where it needed to be, and then scruffing
the roll pin up and down on several times, that showed me where the holes could
fall in line. Had to do some grinding/tweaking to make everything line up.
Finally, I welded a retainer to the handle which bends around to keep the handle
from moving very far to the right. You have to tuck the detent piece into
place before you put the screws into it.
With this system, I have about 3 degrees up, neutral, about three degrees down,
10 degrees down, 20 degrees down, and 30 dgrees down. Not quite as much as Kolb
originally had, but that is deliberate. If you have 40 degrees of flaps and
have to go around or flare with a heavy passenger, you sort of run out of elevator
authority. Having a bit less flaps helps cure that, and it still lands about
as short as it did with 40 degrees.
Having 3 degrees up reduces the need for as much up elevator trim when carrying
a passenger. And when I get light on fuel, 3 degrees down also helps it trim
better. Due to differences in airplane weights and pilot weights, your results
may vary.
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| From: | "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: flap takeoff |
NeilsenRM(at)comcast.net wrote:
>
>
> I started to tell him how I used the
> flaps to adjust my glide path to get me where I wanted to land (kind of like
> a negative throttle) and fully retracted them for landing. He stopped me and
> said you never never raise your flaps on approach. We then got into a heavy
> discussion about flap usage. He finally conceded that it might work in one
> of "those" Kolbs but not in a GA aircraft.
> ---
That technique works very well in GA aicraft also. If you have an engine out and
need to glide to the runway, you need to retract the flaps, its the same for
a Kolb or a GA aircraft.
This guy took what is considered a good rule of thumb ( do not retract flaps on
approach ) and applied it across the board, which is just plain stupid. If
you are in an emergency situation, and have flaps down for the approach, and
the engine quits, retracting the flaps might get you enough extra glide to make
the runway.
That technique saved my butt once in a Cessna 152.
Michael A. Bigelow
--------
"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
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| From: | "john s. flannery" <jsflan(at)valornet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: flap takeoff |
Richard,
Gonna see if my A&P friend can understand it. There's also another A&P here
who is a CFI and built a Kolb no-flapper. Will get back to you.
Just posted one on mornings brief event. You can probably respond better
than anybody.
Gracias,
jsf
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 10:01 AM
>
> Here are some closeups of the mechanism. The detent with the holes in it
> is bolted on to the flat front part of the original detent piece. The
> handle is modified by making it longer (easier to pull flaps on, more
> leverage) and also bent a bit to fit under my lowered windshield.
> I drilled a hole through the handle tube and welded in a bushing, and then
> drove a roll pin into the bushing. I located the holes for the various
> flap detent positions by attaching that piece to where it needed to be,
> and then scruffing the roll pin up and down on several times, that showed
> me where the holes could fall in line. Had to do some grinding/tweaking to
> make everything line up. Finally, I welded a retainer to the handle which
> bends around to keep the handle from moving very far to the right. You
> have to tuck the detent piece into place before you put the screws into
> it.
> With this system, I have about 3 degrees up, neutral, about three degrees
> down, 10 degrees down, 20 degrees down, and 30 dgrees down. Not quite as
> much as Kolb originally had, but that is deliberate. If you have 40
> degrees of flaps and have to go around or flare with a heavy passenger,
> you sort of run out of elevator authority. Having a bit less flaps helps
> cure that, and it still lands about as short as it did with 40 degrees.
> Having 3 degrees up reduces the need for as much up elevator trim when
> carrying a passenger. And when I get light on fuel, 3 degrees down also
> helps it trim better. Due to differences in airplane weights and pilot
> weights, your results may vary.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=52100#52100
>
>
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| From: | russ kinne <kinnepix(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Re: flap takeoff |
Anyone retracting flaps in any part of a flight should remember to do
so GENTLY and SMOOTHLY, always watching the airspeed like a hawk. And
knowing what your stall speeds are first.
Very easy to get into trouble here, but flaps can be milked off to
get better glide and range, and can make all the difference when
trying to 'stretch the glide' for any reason. You'll glide the
furthest with flaps fully retracted.
On Aug 3, 2006, at 1:33 PM, JetPilot wrote:
>
>
> NeilsenRM(at)comcast.net wrote:
>>
>>
>> I started to tell him how I used the
>> flaps to adjust my glide path to get me where I wanted to land
>> (kind of like
>> a negative throttle) and fully retracted them for landing. He
>> stopped me and
>> said you never never raise your flaps on approach. We then got
>> into a heavy
>> discussion about flap usage. He finally conceded that it might
>> work in one
>> of "those" Kolbs but not in a GA aircraft.
>> ---
>
>
> That technique works very well in GA aicraft also. If you have an
> engine out and need to glide to the runway, you need to retract the
> flaps, its the same for a Kolb or a GA aircraft.
>
> This guy took what is considered a good rule of thumb ( do not
> retract flaps on approach ) and applied it across the board, which
> is just plain stupid. If you are in an emergency situation, and
> have flaps down for the approach, and the engine quits, retracting
> the flaps might get you enough extra glide to make the runway.
>
> That technique saved my butt once in a Cessna 152.
>
> Michael A. Bigelow
>
> --------
> "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast
> as you could have !!!
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=52102#52102
>
>
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| From: | "Robert Laird" <rlaird(at)cavediver.com> |
| Subject: | Re: flap takeoff |
Speaking of which... what's the Vfe (max. flap extend speed) on my
MkIIIC? Anyone know?
-- R
On 8/3/06, russ kinne wrote:
>
> Anyone retracting flaps in any part of a flight should remember to do
> so GENTLY and SMOOTHLY, always watching the airspeed like a hawk.
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| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Cruise, now I know! |
Apologies to the board on my "cruise" speed. It appears that I took certain liberties
not applicable to the flying world.
The word "cruise" means: sail, journey, travel, coast, motor, speed and glide.
That is according to the "Word and Works" software word processor on my computer.
Under THAT set of meanings, my Firestar I KXP 503 DIDC with 66 inch wooden two
blade prop and plane weighing in at 354# empty, with a 220# driver will 'CRUISE"
at 80-85 MPH ASI flat flying (no descend or climb) and without any winds.
You-all see, I was under the impression that 'CRUISE" was the speed at which an
aircraft (in our case) flies with designed attitude and is the (excuse me golfers)
"sweet spot" in the engine rpm range, being most efficient regarding EGT
and CHT while consuming the least amount of fuel (economy mode), and not requiring
ANY back-stick or forward-stick.
I am sadly (actually happily) mistaken. My Firestar can flat lick the drawers off
any other Kolb out there (with the same engine ), except the ...............WELL
THERE AIN'T ANY KOLB, equally equipped that I can't beat. So forget my previous
winnings. Now if anyone else with a Kolb Firestar equipped with a 503
DIDC and 66" prop wants to have theirs as fast, let me know.
However, If I was correct in my previous assumption, then I will probably need
some help.
Fastest in all of Ohio Ralph
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| From: | "Chris Mallory" <wcm(at)tampabay.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Fw: Proof Of Global Warming |
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| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Cruise, now I know! |
Had to learn to resize some pictures. They are attached.
The one with the instruments should be big enough to enlarge and read the ASI and
the GPS as well as the two Glass engine and flight gauges. Man, I love thoses
things.
The last one or first one with the white buildings is the world famous Poultry
#4 layer. Chicken City where the chickens lay 3 eggs every two days. Somehow they
made a deal with the cock to crow even in the dark.
Ohio Ralph
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| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
Man, A piece of History that really shouldn't be put on a plane and flown. It's
an origional John Hauck. The history of that engine should be at the Smithsonian,
it's priceless.
And a MOVIE STAR was interested in it. That should add value. I heard that it's
John Travolta! I could be wrong.
Ohio Ralph, pickin-an-a-grinnin here in Ohio!
Why would John Travolta want a 912, other than the Hauck once owned it, and it
could only appreciate in value? Afterlaa doesn't John Travolta have a couple jets?
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| From: | <kfackler(at)ameritech.net> |
| Subject: | Sport Pilot written test passed |
Gentlemen:
I took the Sport Pilot written exam this afternoon and passed it. Next
step, finding someone with the correct form for the SP Student Pilot
certificate. Onward!
-Ken Fackler
Kolb Mark II / A722KWF
Rochester MI
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| From: | APilot(at)webtv.net |
| Subject: | Re: flap takeoff |
Do not know the correct speed for flaps on my MkIIIC, but I don't even
try to pull on full flaps above 50 ias. Not sure that I would have the
strength at 55 or more. Vic
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| From: | "Kolbdriver" <kolbdriver(at)mlsharp.com> |
David,
I picked this one up off of someone's website I don't remember who's....
Hope it helps..
Mike
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Key
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:52 AM
Does someone have a check list they can email me? I need one for my
preflights and didn't want to start from scratch.
Thanks,
David
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| From: | "Duffney" <tnt1(at)rangebroadband.com> |
This is my first message to the Kolb list. I have been lurking on this
list for quite some time. I would like some info on the location of a
Hot Box in a Firestar11. Also, battery location so that I can send the
information to Hot Box. For my harness. I am looking for the dimensions
for a motor base plate for a 503 or to purchase one if anyone has one.
Is it better to ground to the battery or to the aircraft frame? Do I
need to do a weight and balance before installing the battery? Hope this
message makes it to the list.
Thanks for all the good reads and ideas.
Tim Duffney
Hibbing Minnesota
PS. To John Hauck tried to hook up with you at Oshkosh to pick your
brain and introduce you to a friend, I was the guy on the black
motorcycle that waved at you Wed evening.
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| From: | <kfackler(at)ameritech.net> |
| Subject: | Sport Pilot written test passed; taxiing downwind |
Gentlemen:
Sport Pilot Test
I took the Sport Pilot written exam yesterday and passed with a 100%. Next
step is getting the student pilot cert followed by a few hours doing
checkride prep.
Taxiiing Downwind
With all due respect to Bro' Hart, if I had used his recommendations for
control positioning to answer some of the questions, I would not have gotten
a perfect score. The SP written expects that your answers to questions such
as these will reflect these procedures:
Taxi upwind = elevator up
Taxi downwind = elevator down
Upwind crosswind = aileron on the side the wind is coming from is up
Downwind crosswind = aileron on the side the wind is coming from is down
Synopsis: When taxiing upwind position the controls TOWARD the wind; when
taxiing downwind position them AWAY from the wind.
If you do something else in your particular aircraft, that's up to you, and
I won't argue or debate with anyone about it. However, if you want to PASS
the written exam, you need to answer the way the FAA says you should.
Note: The above is consistent with a PP ground school I took 20+ years ago
as well as all the instruction I've ever received from CFIs over the years,
including the local taildragger "expert".
-Ken Fackler
Kolb Mark II / A722KWF
Rochester MI
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| From: | Richard Pike <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
Here is a link to some installed pictures of the battery and hotbox in a
FSII.
http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/FSII%20Hot%20Box.html
Ground the battery to the airframe, and ground the engine to the airframe.
If you put the battery where we have ours, or anywhere close to the rear
seat, it will work out ok because it will be close to the cg.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Duffney wrote:
> This is my first message to the Kolb list. I have been lurking on this
> list for quite some time. I would like some info on the location of a
> Hot Box in a Firestar11. Also, battery location so that I can send the
> information to Hot Box. For my harness. I am looking for the
> dimensions for a motor base plate for a 503 or to purchase one if
> anyone has one. Is it better to ground to the battery or to the
> aircraft frame? Do I need to do a weight and balance before installing
> the battery? Hope this message makes it to the list.
> Thanks for all the good reads and ideas.
>
> Tim Duffney
> Hibbing Minnesota
>
> PS. To John Hauck tried to hook up with you at Oshkosh to pick your
> brain and introduce you to a friend, I was the guy on the black
> motorcycle that waved at you Wed evening.
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| From: | TheWanderingWench <thewanderingwench(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Another Check List |
I think this checklist came out for the GT 400/500.
Can certainly be adapted for a Kolb.
Arty
Cabin
Ignition OFF
Strobe switch ON
Master switch ON
Check strobe FLASHING
Strobe switch OFF
Master switch OFF
Loose objects SECURE
Hobbes REECORD
Fuel tank cap SECURE
Chute release pin REMOVE
Rear Compartment
Fuel shut-off valve ON
Fuel level CHECK
Fuel filter CHECK FOR DIRT AND
SECURITY
Wiring harness SECURE
Fabric buckles SECURE, TOP AND BOTTOM
Side zipper CLOSED
Left Wing
Left brake line CHECK FOR BUBBLES
Main left wheel tire CHECK INFLATION
Lower surface fabric CHECK
Upper surface fabric CHECK
Left wing tie-downs DISCONNECT
Aileron hinges and control fittings CHECK
Flap hinges and control rod CHECK
Strobe SECURE
Wing zipper CLOSED
Empennage
Rudder hinges SECURE
Rudder control cables, nuts, pins SECURE
Elevator hinges SECURE
Elevator push rods, nuts, pins SECURE
Internal tube fittings SECURE
Fabric NO DAMAGE, TIGHT
Tail Strobe SECURE
Tail tie-down DISCONNECT
Engine (503 dual carb)
Propeller bolts & nuts CHECK
Propeller condition CHECK
Muffler SECURE, CHECK SAFETY WIRES
Spark plugs TIGHT
Spark plug caps SECURE
Engine temp wires SECURE
Right Wing
Flap hinges and control rod SECURE
Aileron hinges and control fittings SECURE
Right wing tie-down DISCONNECT
Upper surface fabric CHECK
Lower surface fabric CHECK
Main right wheel tire CHECK INFLATION
Right brake line CHECK FOR BUBBLES
Strobe SECURE
Wing zipper CLOSED
Nose
Pod CHECK FOR CRACKING
Nose wheel CHECK INFLATION AND
SECURITY
Nose wheel brake CHECK CONDITION &
OPERATION
Pitot tube OPENING CLEAR
Before Engine Start
Preflight inspection COMPLETE
Seats, belts, shoulder harn. ADJUST & LOCK
Helmet CHIN STRAP SECURE
Fuel shut off valve ON
Radios, electrical equipment OFF
Strobes OFF
Brakes TEST & SET
Engine Start
Prime AS REQUIRED
Throttle SLIGHTLY OPEN
Propeller area VISUAL CHECK
Master switch ON
"Clear Prop" CALL
Choke HOLD ON AS NEEDED
Ignition switch ON (release on start)
Throttle ADJUST TO IDLE A 2,000 RPM
Strobe switch ON
(Radio) (REPORT START TAXI)
Before Take-off
Brake SET
Controls check REE AND CORRECT
Flaps SET
Instruments SET
Gas and fuel valve CHECK LEVEL AND VALVE
OPEN
Throttle TO 4,000 RPM
Left & right sparks CHECK FOR RPM DROP
Throttle IDLE
Engine instruments, ammeter CHECK
Engine temps CHT, EGT CHECK
Strobe ON
(Radio) (CALL)
Final scan 360 DEGREE TRAFFIC
CHECK
Brakes RELEASE
After Take-off
Wheels BRAKE TO STOP WHEEL SPIN
Before Landing
Cabin SECURE LOSE OBJECTS
Harness and helmet SECURE
Slow flight SET FLAPS IN WHITE ARC
Approach speed 40 MPH
(Radio) (CALL DOWNWIND, BASE &
FINAL)
After Landing
Flaps NEUTRAL
Strobe, master and key OFF
Hobbs RECORD
Fuel FILL
Chute pin INSTALLED
Tie downs SECURE
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| From: | "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | I lead a charmed life |
Despite needing to get on the road for CA, it was too nice to not take one
more ride around the pattern.
"Normal preflight, aux tank on pump, taxi out."
"Pretty cross, but nothing I haven't handled before."
"Maybe I should taxi up to the flag, and make sure I'm not adding a downwind
component."
"I can always take off from half field, 1200 feet is enough for a Kolb."
"Doesn't look like enough to be a problem, NBD, why waste the runway?"
"Okay, Into the wind, controls set, start feeding in throttle."
"Engine sounds normal, tail up, looks good, continue nice smooth pull back."
"ENGINE RPM DROPPED, LAND, LAND, LAND".
"What the F***, over?" Settle in nicely, roll out and begin turn back up
runway."
"Engine dies, oh great, here I sit smack dab in the middle of the runway"
"Fiddle about with throttle, engine starts, won't go over about 3000 RPM,
WTFO?"
"Engine dies again, get out, check engine pull up throttle cable boots and
check cables, looks good, straighten out tail wheel."
"Try engine, starts right up, accelerate normal, taxi back."
"Add throttle to get up slope to the yard, engine dies again."
"Roll backward down slope, thank goodness for that full swivel tailwheel."
"At least I'm out of the way, sit for a moment cursing, try engine, engine
starts, throttles normally, taxi up slope and back to hangar."
"Okay, let's have a look, hmmm, no fuel in line north of fuel pump, no fuel
in line north of filter, line south of filter full of fuel."
"Crap. Put it away, rebuild fuel system when I get back, add electric boost
pump."
"The runway behind you, the gas still at the FBO, the altitude above you, my
ex wife."
Yesterday I was finally getting comfortable with flying low. Cruising along
the Arkansas River at 150', trees for 1/4 mile on either bank. Engine sang
her usual sweet siren song, "depend on me, depend on me". Bitch. I wonder if
she knows my ex wife?
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: I lead a charmed life |
Said:
"hmmm, no fuel in line north of fuel pump, no fuel in line north of filter"
and:
"Yesterday I was finally getting comfortable with flying low. Cruising along the
Arkansas River at 150' trees for 1/4 mile on either bank"
and then this:
"depend on me, depend on me..."
First, Brother of the sky, it sure appears that "Someone" is looking out for you.
At 150 feet above river with trees on both sides, and 1/4 miles away, (do the
math, and you will see why I say that), unless your amphibious, somebody up
there Loves you.
I also found, not by personal example, but by another, that engines especially
don't like being called disrespectful names. Be nice to your motor and it will
be nice to you.
I will send you a photo or two of a duel fuel manifold system yjay my Instructor
and I put together for just those occasions, when your not feeling really fresh.
I personally believe that in spite of your determination to fly with something
possibly amiss, that some "authority" took over past common sense. I know, there
isn't very many individuals more stubborn than me, and I will MAKE IT FLY ^%$#%^76
, cause that's what I want NOW!
The very best thing you have to consider is that your here and the plane is still
complete and you vented among your peers. I love you man!! (In the male bonding
way).
Ohio Ralph
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=52301#52301
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| From: | "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: I lead a charmed life |
Ralph, One small correction, after she quit, all thoughts of flying today
were gone. I know when to take a hint and listen to those short hairs on the
back of my neck.
I'd have left her shut down, but I didn't want to put myself in cardiac
arrest pushing and pulling her 1/2 a mile back to the house.
The Rotax is gonna have to learn the lesson the Vibraglide knows. "Don't
screw with Daddy, he has wrenches and will take you apart and put you in a
box."
Who knows, maybe the Rotax got wind of my plan to replace her with a Jabiru.
Gotta be more secretive, I guess.
Rick
On 8/4/06, Ralph Hoover wrote:
>
> >
>
> Said:
> "hmmm, no fuel in line north of fuel pump, no fuel in line north of
> filter"
>
> and:
> "Yesterday I was finally getting comfortable with flying low. Cruising
> along the Arkansas River at 150' trees for 1/4 mile on either bank"
>
> and then this:
>
> "depend on me, depend on me..."
>
> First, Brother of the sky, it sure appears that "Someone" is looking out
> for you. At 150 feet above river with trees on both sides, and 1/4 miles
> away, (do the math, and you will see why I say that), unless your
> amphibious, somebody up there Loves you.
>
> I also found, not by personal example, but by another, that engines
> especially don't like being called disrespectful names. Be nice to your
> motor and it will be nice to you.
>
> I will send you a photo or two of a duel fuel manifold system yjay my
> Instructor and I put together for just those occasions, when your not
> feeling really fresh.
>
> I personally believe that in spite of your determination to fly with
> something possibly amiss, that some "authority" took over past common sense.
> I know, there isn't very many individuals more stubborn than me, and I will
> MAKE IT FLY ^%$#%^76 , cause that's what I want NOW!
>
> The very best thing you have to consider is that your here and the plane
> is still complete and you vented among your peers. I love you man!! (In the
> male bonding way).
>
> Ohio Ralph
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=52301#52301
>
>
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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| From: | "boyd" <by0ung(at)brigham.net> |
Speaking of which... what's the Vfe (max. flap extend speed) on my
MkIIIC? Anyone know?
-- R
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Years ago kolb told me that if you could pull it.. it was ok to use.... (
no limit other than vne)
I posted mine at 70
Also they wanted me to make sure there was a triangle gusset welded to the
flap torque tube where the actuating arm is attached... if the arm does
not have a gusset.( early models) put one on.
Boyd
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
"David Key"
|
| I didn't know I had titan exhaust. There's a little room near the
boxes
David:
Those little black boxes cost 700.00 a piece to replace.
When I was running the Titan exhaust system I wrapped that area of the
tube that was closest to the black box with fiberglass exhaust header
wrap. Secured both ends with hose clamps.
Did that fix work. Reckon so. Never had an ign problem.
john h
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Maybe you could tell me how you mounted your
| coolant overflow bottle.
|
| Vic
Vic:
Used a nalgene plastic bottle (the kind most little cafes use for
mustard and catsup. Welded up a little aluminum bracket with tabs to
mount to the two 6mm taped holes in the back (opposite prop) of the
gear box. Used a couple tie wraps to secure the bottle to the
bracket.
john h
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| From: | "John Cooley" <johnc(at)datasync.com> |
Hi Vic/John,
I just happen to have a picture that shows the bottle in question. Took the
picture in 2004 when John was at Octoberlite fly-in at Ronnie Smith's. Hope
it helps.
P.S. Hope the picture is not too big for the dial-up folks. I've converted
to Hughes satellite service and things are much better and more expensive.
Later,
John Cooley
| Maybe you could tell me how you mounted your
| coolant overflow bottle.
|
| Vic
--
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| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
Quote: "P.S. Hope the picture is not too big for the dial-up folks."
Well John Cooley, Have John Hauck Tighten that Bolt below the black hose with the
Blue "T" fitting 1/4 turn more and I did notice several specs of material in
that 2 micron filter! Ha, HA!
That picture blowed up so big I needed two days to see it all! Ha!
Ohio Ralph,
P.S. is that "Full Scale"?
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| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
A Man could eat off of any part in your plane, it's so clean. And talk about workmanship,
Outa this world. I'll be sending my Firestar in a box here in the next
several weeks for you to make purty like yours. Anal, man absolutely anal!
And, thats a good thing.
Amazed Ralph in Ohio!
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Coolant Recovery Bottle and Mount |
Changed the subject line to reflect what we are talking about.
Forgot to mention, I used a couple 582 radiator shock mounts which
have 6mm studs on them, to screw into the rear of the gear box. Then
mounted my recovery bottle and mount on the two shock mounts.
Was it necessary to use the shock mounts? Not sure. But since I had
them, I used them. Also acts as a thermal barrier between gear box
and bottle.
Take care,
john h
mkIII
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| From: | "Dave Bigelow" <up_country(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Firestar cruise |
My Firestar II is happiest in the 45-60 mph range. You can push it above that,
but it doesn't fly as comfortably in the upper range near the red line - also
the miles per gallon goes down at the higher speeds.
At 60 mph (5,000 ft density altitude), the 503 turns about 5,500 rpm. My bird
is a stock open cockpit model with windscreen and no strut fairings.
--------
Dave Bigelow
Kamuela, Hawaii
FS2, Rotax 503 DCDI
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| From: | Charlie England <ceengland(at)bellsouth.net> |
John Cooley wrote:
>Hi Vic/John,
>
>I just happen to have a picture that shows the bottle in question. Took the
>picture in 2004 when John was at Octoberlite fly-in at Ronnie Smith's. Hope
>it helps.
>
>P.S. Hope the picture is not too big for the dial-up folks. I've converted
>to Hughes satellite service and things are much better and more expensive.
>
>Later,
>John Cooley
>
>
> Truncated!
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> This message exceeded the Maximum Message Size set in Preferences, so
> we have only downloaded the first few lines from the mail server.
>
> Click here
>
> to download the rest of the message.
>
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Fuel tank filler line |
Hi Mike S:
To transfer fuel from the can to the aircraft I use 6 feet of 1" OD X
7/8" ID vinyl hose. Can pick it up at anything large hardware store,
or try Lowes, Home Depot, etc.
Been using this system since I learned about it from a friend who flew
an S-1 Pitts. Was walking by his hanger one day, where he was
standing off from the airplane, holding the gas can up and
transferring fuel from can to tank via the 1" hose.
Wish I knew how much fuel I have transferred this way.
john h
mkIII
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| From: | "Ed Chmielewski" <edchmiel(at)mindspring.com> |
Hi John,
Thanks for the downsizing. I can BARELY see that tiny bottle!
(Just joking. It's still huge!)
Ed in JXN
MkII/503
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 6:49 PM
> Hi Vic/John,
>
> I just happen to have a picture that shows the bottle in question. Took
> the
> picture in 2004 when John was at Octoberlite fly-in at Ronnie Smith's.
> Hope
> it helps.
>
> P.S. Hope the picture is not too big for the dial-up folks. I've converted
> to Hughes satellite service and things are much better and more expensive.
>
> Later,
> John Cooley
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Larry Bourne" <biglar(at)gogittum.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Coolant bottle. |
I'll repeat a previous offer..........if you're unsure of the size of a
picture you want to attach, email it to me in whatever size, I'll reduce it
for you and email it back. No more frustrated people on dial up. I like to
put them at 1000 pixels wide for easy viewing, and compress them to 50-75 kb
for easy downloading. I can really sympathize - I was on dial up the whole
4 weeks I was on vacation last month, and it was really frustrating. Sure
glad I'm back on high speed. Sure wish I was back on vacation.
It's easy to set your computer to reject any email over a size you choose.
If you missed the directions last time, email me off List, and I'll give you
a step by step. While on vacation, I limited my computer to nothing larger
than 250 kb, and it was much better. Even 250 takes quite a while on dial
up, but you can set it anywhere you want. Lar.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 7:31 PM
>
>
> Hi John,
>
> Thanks for the downsizing. I can BARELY see that tiny bottle!
>
> (Just joking. It's still huge!)
>
> Ed in JXN
> MkII/503
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 6:49 PM
>
>
>> Hi Vic/John,
>>
>> I just happen to have a picture that shows the bottle in question. Took
>> the
>> picture in 2004 when John was at Octoberlite fly-in at Ronnie Smith's.
>> Hope
>> it helps.
>>
>> P.S. Hope the picture is not too big for the dial-up folks. I've
>> converted
>> to Hughes satellite service and things are much better and more
>> expensive.
>>
>> Later,
>> John Cooley
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List
> http://wiki.matronics.com
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Vic Peters" <vicsvinyl(at)verizon.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Coolant Recovery Bottle and Mount |
To John H.&C.
Thats the kind of help that makes this list great! Thanks
Personally I love those large files, that way I can really check Johns
crappy workmanship. ( Ha, Ha, Ha)
Only problem is I already bought the stock Rotax gold plated platinum
overflow and it won't fit.
I was going to use those same screw holes in the gearbox for a bracket
to support the bottom of that type of exhast. I noticed a lot of wear at the
junction of muffler to pipes (used system low time).
Any comments on this from anyone?
Vic
MKIIIX 912UL
Maine
--
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| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
Mike,
"also sounds like you need a GPS ,"
The GPS that I have is a Garmin E-Map. An old system that works well with chips
and Map Source programs. It has a database with the "Roads and Recreation" software.
It allows me to download my trps, upload trips, leave crumbs and display
(on the computer Map Source program) altitude, speed (ground) distance, etc.
Pretty amazing for what it is. And, It has all the existing airfields shown,
including many private backyard sites.
see picture's below. these are from todays flights for 1-3/4 hours. Really great
till them thermals came along.
Ohio Ralph
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| From: | "David Key" <dhkey(at)msn.com> |
| Subject: | Wing strut fairings |
wing strut fairings. From the instructions it isn't clear to me if I should
rivet the fairings every inch. I know I'm supposed to start off 6 inches
from the ends. Is there someone that knows if I'm suposed to rivet every
inch?
Thanks,
David
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | APilot(at)webtv.net |
| Subject: | Re: Wing strut fairings |
I never riveted by fairings. They seem to fit fairly tight. Maybe I
should. Vic
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| From: | "pat ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
"As the nose drops, you ease the stick forward while adding power to
arrest the descent.">>
Hi,
that may be fine on an exercise when you are expecting a stall but
pretty useless in real life. `Stick forward and opposite rudder` is all
you really need. Forget the engine, it is the wing that stalls and as
with most things lowering the angle of attack will sort it out. In fact
unless you are entering a really viscious stall a slight release of
back pressure wil do.
Talk to a glider pilot. Incipient spins and stalls form a major part of
the training. Glider pilots spent the majority of their time in rough
thermals, steeply banked and teetering on the edge of a stall because
you climb faster that way.
On the appraoch the low and slow final turn is a particularly dangerous
spot because the wind gradient may well give a difference of 10 knots
difference in windspeed beetween the wing tips on a long sailplane
wing. If you are near the stall the up wing may be just above the stall
but the lower wing could stall and quit flying. Turning `flat` because
you are too close to the ground is worse as your outside wing will speed
up and tend to rise while the inside wing will slow down and could
stall. Classic spin entry.
With the Kolbs shorter wing the effect is not so pronounced but a
similar situation is present.
Cheers
Pat
do not archiv
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| From: | APilot(at)webtv.net |
| Subject: | Flight Star vs Mark III Classic |
I flew a Flight Star a few years ago and now I am flying my Mk III. As
I remember, the Flightstar was a very nice flying airplane with light
controls. My Classic seems stiffer. Anyone, have comments on the
comparisons. Also, has anyone bothered to measure the glide ratios and
minimum sink numbers without power?
Vic in Sacramento
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | APilot(at)webtv.net |
| Subject: | Re: Control positioning during ground handling |
When I use to fly my PA-11 and the wind was down the runway, I use to
add power and forward stick. As soon as the tail came up, it was ready
to fly. If the wind was from the side, I would hold the stick back to
put pressure on the tail wheel until the rudder would hold it straight.
I think that my Mk IIIC will be the same, but have yet to build enough
confidence to do crosswind practice. Vic in Sacramento
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Control positioning during ground handling |
| but if you just hold the stick loosely (figure of speech) in the
| neutral position and lo and behold, the tail comes up exactly when
it is
| supposed to and a gentle back pressure sends you skyward. For me
this method
| works in all situations even in stout cross winds.
|
| You really don't have to "over fly" a Kolb and you don't have to
second
| guess it.
Hi Chris M:
That's the way I have been doing it for years. Let the Kolb fly with
a little input to let it know what and where you want to go.
john h
mkIII
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
Morning Gang:
Departing hauck's holler very shortly for a road trip north to Homer
Kolb's. Have not been to Homer's since I came through that way in
1994, on my way around the country in the mkIII.
Will have a chance to see the 1985 OSH Grand Champion Ultralight, a
refurbished Kolb Firestar. Might even talk Homer into flying it
around the patch.
However, the primary purpose of this trip, in addition to visiting the
Kolbs, is the Rough and Tumble Steam and Gas Engine Show at Kinzers,
PA, about 30 miles west of Homer's. As some of you all know, Homer
has been a John Deere tractor collector for many years. Fortunately
or unfortunately, the tractor bug bit me a couple years ago. This bug
causes a terrible disease called "tractor fever". It is incurable.
This trip will keep "tractor fever" in remission for a short period of
time.
I will take my lap top and cell phone with me, 334-315-2621. Planning
an op stop in Winchester, VA, either on the north or south. Will
inform Grey Baron of ETA when I can confirm it.
Hope to see some of my PA friends while at Homer's.
Take care,
john h
hauck's holler (remote), alabama
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| From: | "Denny Rowe" <rowedl(at)highstream.net> |
John,
If you swing West on your way home and pass near Pittsburgh., drop me a line
and try to stop in and RON here.
Neither of my birds are flying this year (or last) :-( but they are
available for inspection.
I have a great little Farmall Cub with the Woods belly mower. I'll make
sure to have a few acres available for your mowing pleasure. :-) Ought to
be enough of a fix to get you right for your trip back to "Hanks"ville.
I'll even have a dirt bike available for an off road fix too.
Denny Rowe,
Mk-3 690L-70, Loehle Sport Parasol 503 SI.
Leechburg ,PA
Home 724 845 1431
Cell 724 882 6788
Lindas cell 724 882 2751
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 10:13 AM
>
> Morning Gang:
>
> Departing hauck's holler very shortly for a road trip north to Homer
> Kolb's. Have not been to Homer's since I came through that way in
> 1994, on my way around the country in the mkIII.
>
> Will have a chance to see the 1985 OSH Grand Champion Ultralight, a
> refurbished Kolb Firestar. Might even talk Homer into flying it
> around the patch.
>
> However, the primary purpose of this trip, in addition to visiting the
> Kolbs, is the Rough and Tumble Steam and Gas Engine Show at Kinzers,
> PA, about 30 miles west of Homer's. As some of you all know, Homer
> has been a John Deere tractor collector for many years. Fortunately
> or unfortunately, the tractor bug bit me a couple years ago. This bug
> causes a terrible disease called "tractor fever". It is incurable.
> This trip will keep "tractor fever" in remission for a short period of
> time.
>
> I will take my lap top and cell phone with me, 334-315-2621. Planning
> an op stop in Winchester, VA, either on the north or south. Will
> inform Grey Baron of ETA when I can confirm it.
>
> Hope to see some of my PA friends while at Homer's.
>
> Take care,
>
> john h
> hauck's holler (remote), alabama
>
>
> --
>
>
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| From: | ElleryWeld(at)aol.com |
The new Gps systems are sure great I have a 295 Garmin color moving map now
alot more features than the older models, more info is good to have
Ellery
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| From: | "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Flight Star vs Mark III Classic |
Vic, Where are you in Sacto? I'm up in Corning for the repairman maintenance
class at Rainbow Aviation. I have weekends off and would love to talk Kolbs.
Rick
On 8/6/06, APilot(at)webtv.net wrote:
>
>
> I flew a Flight Star a few years ago and now I am flying my Mk III. As
> I remember, the Flightstar was a very nice flying airplane with light
> controls. My Classic seems stiffer. Anyone, have comments on the
> comparisons. Also, has anyone bothered to measure the glide ratios and
> minimum sink numbers without power?
> Vic in Sacramento
>
>
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Richard Pike <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
| Subject: | Re: Flight Star vs Mark III Classic |
Stock, it is stiff in roll, but a simple aileron bellcrank mod is very
effective.
http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/pg7.htm
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
APilot(at)webtv.net wrote:
>
> I flew a Flight Star a few years ago and now I am flying my Mk III. As
> I remember, the Flightstar was a very nice flying airplane with light
> controls. My Classic seems stiffer. Anyone, have comments on the
> comparisons. Also, has anyone bothered to measure the glide ratios and
> minimum sink numbers without power?
> Vic in Sacramento
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
John, I, like Planecrazzy Mike appreciate your heorics and your advise. However,
Mike and I differ in teh fact that If you pass central Ohio, (like Columbus
area) during meal time, I'll let you buy me a steak! You and I could proctice
soluting each other and I polish some brass buckles and streighten my gig line
for you.
Whoo........................., to the unindated, that sounds dirty. Sorry John,
Just send me (after signing) the check Mike is sending you. You don't need any
more money, you'l just buy more "green" stuff.
Ohio Ralph, fasting for the big day, here in Ohio!
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| From: | "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Flight Star vs Mark III Classic |
Starts tomorrow and runs through the 27th.
Rick
On 8/6/06, Richard Pike wrote:
>
>
> Stock, it is stiff in roll, but a simple aileron bellcrank mod is very
> effective.
> http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/pg7.htm
>
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
>
> APilot(at)webtv.net wrote:
> >
> > I flew a Flight Star a few years ago and now I am flying my Mk III. As
> > I remember, the Flightstar was a very nice flying airplane with light
> > controls. My Classic seems stiffer. Anyone, have comments on the
> > comparisons. Also, has anyone bothered to measure the glide ratios and
> > minimum sink numbers without power?
> > Vic in Sacramento
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
"Hey Ralph,
I'm guess'n you were born in "Babble-on"...He he he "
No son, I was born in a mess-kit at the end of WW-II (the big one), and some of
that rubbed off of me when I was a drill Sergeant! My purpose was to remove
the rough edges from snot nosed kids! He He!
After they riffed me, I moved to babble-on, wherest I was able to meet the nice
respectable, kind, appreciative, educated individuals such as yourself.
But thank you for the kindness!.........Now get down and give me 50!
Ralph "Fallin-in" in Ohio
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | New Incoming Message Size Limit Implemented... |
Dear Listers,
Due to a number of requests to limit the size of incoming posts to the Lists because
of the recently added enclosure feature, I have add a new filter that will
limit the total size of any given message posted to the List. I have initially
set the limit to 2MB
and we'll see how everyone likes that.
If a member attempts to post a message that is greater than the set limit, they
will receive an email back indicating that their message wasn't posted to the
List and why. Also included in the message will be the current size limit and
how large their message
was.
Some might say that 2MB is still too large, but its a place to start...
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Re: New Incoming Message Size Limit Implemented... |
On Aug 6, 2006, at 7:49 PM, Matt Dralle wrote:
> Some might say that 2MB is still too large, but its a place to
> start...
WHAT! ! ! ? ? 2MB ??? per message on a slow phone line???
Sorry Matt,
Totally useless filter in my opinion.
How about 150 KB ?
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| From: | WillUribe(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Fuel tank filler line |
Hi Mike S:
To transfer fuel from the can to the aircraft I use 6 feet of 1" OD X
7/8" ID vinyl hose. Can pick it up at anything large hardware store,
or try Lowes, Home Depot, etc.
Been using this system since I learned about it from a friend who flew
an S-1 Pitts. Was walking by his hanger one day, where he was
standing off from the airplane, holding the gas can up and
transferring fuel from can to tank via the 1" hose.
Wish I knew how much fuel I have transferred this way.
john h
mkIII
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| From: | WillUribe(at)aol.com |
Hi John,
In a week, I will also be taking a trip north to Fredericksburg, VA. The
last two weeks I worked at the John Deere factory in Des Moines, Iowa.
Regards,
Will Uribe
FireStar II
El Paso, TX
_http://members.aol.com/WillUribe/mv/_ (http://members.aol.com/WillUribe/mv/)
(mailto:jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com)
However, the primary purpose of this trip, in addition to visiting the
Kolbs, is the Rough and Tumble Steam and Gas Engine Show at Kinzers,
PA, about 30 miles west of Homer's. As some of you all know, Homer
has been a John Deere tractor collector for many years. Fortunately
or unfortunately, the tractor bug bit me a couple years ago. This bug
causes a terrible disease called "tractor fever". It is incurable.
This trip will keep "tractor fever" in remission for a short period of
time.
I will take my lap top and cell phone with me, 334-315-2621. Planning
an op stop in Winchester, VA, either on the north or south. Will
inform Grey Baron of ETA when I can confirm it.
Hope to see some of my PA friends while at Homer's.
Take care,
john h
hauck's holler (remote), alabama
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| Subject: | Kolb Mark III for sale |
| From: | "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1(at)yahoo.com> |
Hi Everyone,
Kind of a sad day. I will be selling my Mark III Classic. I am purchasing a Flight
Design CTSW. I have truely had a great time flying my Mark III and it was
my first experience with the 912uls engine. The 912s is the only way to go. Other
than one minor problem it has never given me an ounce of trouble. If you know
anyone that is interested then you can see my add on Barnstormers.
This plane was built by Dwane Woods and his brother. Some of you may know them
and they are excellent builders and pay a lot of attention to detail and spared
nothing on extras as they built. This Kolb was 2002 Grand National Champion
at Sun & Fun.
Custom aerothane paint, BRS 1050 chute, EIS, ASI, ELT, compass,
G-meter, Icom 10 channel radio, intercom, Garmen 195 GPS, fused hot box, new 6x6.00
tires, self sealing tubes, beefed up landing gear, Matco brakes, clear "D"
cell, balanced ailerons, trim, G5 grip, 3 blade Warp Drive prop, 16 gals. fuel
(3.5 hrs.), 2 fuel pumps, Navman fuel flow meter, TNK adjustable horizontal
stabilizer bracket, full swivel tailwheel, Registered ELSA (N515AB), TT A&E 780
hrs.
$28,500
If you are interested give me a call @ 520-574-1080
Tucson, Az
I will always stay in contact and continue to meet all of the Kolb people as they
have been a wonderful and informative group. That being said I don't take delivery
of my CTSW until Dec. 1, 2006. So until my Kolb sells it's time to fly.
I will also keep you informed about how the CTSW flys.
Thank All of You,
Roger Lee
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Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
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| From: | "Domenic Perez" <perezmdomenic(at)plateautel.net> |
| Subject: | Control Stiffness |
My ailerons were very stiff my first few flights when I first bought
my FS II. Come to find out a little lubrication in the "u-joints"
assembly on the lower end of the stick made a world of difference. Also,
make sure the tightness of the nuts and bolts on those u-joints is just
right.
M. Domenic Perez
FS II
Vaughn, NM
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| From: | "pat ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Fuel tank filler line |
To transfer fuel from the can to the aircraft I use 6 feet of 1" OD X
7/8" ID vinyl hose. >>
Hi ,
did I miss something? Does the can have a spout which the hose fits
over? Otherwise how does the hose attach to the can?
Cheers
Pat
do nor archive
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| From: | robert bean <slyck(at)frontiernet.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Fuel tank filler line |
I use the same arrangement, red poly tank with loop handle,
vinyl hose fits perfectly over the stub on the tank cap. As I
remember, the tank
had some kind of a self-venting device on it which I removed
to clamp the hose on. I drilled a very small hole in the handle
for the vent. My tanks are in the standard MkIII location so I don't
have to lift far for gravity to do the job.
BB
On 7, Aug 2006, at 4:29 AM, pat ladd wrote:
> To- transfer fuel from the can to the aircraft I use 6 feet of 1" OD
> X--7/8"- ID vinyl hose.- >>
> -
> Hi ,
> -
> did I miss something? Does the can have a spout which the hose fits
> over?- Otherwise how does the hose attach to the can?
> -
> Cheers
> -
> Pat
> -
> do nor archive
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| From: | Noel Bouchard <noel(at)teledata.qc.ca> |
Hello all.
I remember to have read about the usage of the black automotive gas
lines with non-premix gas ...
My question is: Can these automotive line be safely used with pre-mixed
(using 50:1 Penzoil for 2 stroke air cooled) .
I have to replace all the lines in my Twinstar MK II and would like to use
this type of line if it is safe ...
Thanks !
Nol Bouhard
Twinstart MKII
Rotax 503
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| From: | "Robert Laird" <rlaird(at)cavediver.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Auto gas line |
I use fuel-injection line that is compatible with all fuels with any
mixes: SAE 30R9 (one popular mfg is Gates). Also, check out Areoquip
FC332...
http://www.hosexpress.com/hose/socketless/FC332.htm
-- Robert
On 8/7/06, Noel Bouchard wrote:
>
> Hello all.
>
> I remember to have read about the usage of the black automotive gas
> lines with non-premix gas ...
>
> My question is: Can these automotive line be safely used with pre-mixed
> (using 50:1 Penzoil for 2 stroke air cooled) .
>
> I have to replace all the lines in my Twinstar MK II and would like to use
> this type of line if it is safe ...
>
> Thanks !
>
> Nol Bouhard
> Twinstart MKII
> Rotax 503
>
>
> --
>
>
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| Subject: | Ms. Dixie update |
| From: | "Paul Petty" <paulpetty(at)hughesnet.com> |
Hi Kolbers,
As of yesterday Ms. Dixie's wings are covered and back home. Had one scarey moment
on the interstate when a semi passed pops at a high rate of speed and cut
over in front of him [Shocked] the wings and the rig they were riding on tried
to take flight! Other tan that they had a nice ride home. Couple of things
for the archives and future builders or folks covering that I ran into.... first
was the covering kit I bought from ATS aka Jim Miller. It's a tad over kill.
I would recomend Jim as a point of purchase but not the covering "Kit" as per
say. The "kit" is put together by TNK and lacks certain items and has to much
of others. For an example one will need, or at least it's easier to have some
4" "bias" tape for the wing tip bows. I cant Imagine trying to get a smooth
edege with the supplied 4" tape that came with the "Kit". Next is the fabric rivets.
I was not happy with the ones that came from Jim. Although they are "certified"
and used on alot of airplanes..the guy who coached me in my covering
didnt like them and had some that were much nicer. the edeges of these rivets
were rounded and pulled into the reinforcing tape much cleaner. If anyone is at
this stage and wants part numbers for the rivets let me know.
http://groups.msn.com/AerialWorld/kolbra012.msnw?Page=1
This is where I upload building photos these days so book mark this link and check
back ofton for updates.
I cant seam to find the spell checker so what you see is what you get!
Take care
--------
Paul Petty
Kolbra #12
Ms Dixie
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| Subject: | Re: Auto gas line |
| From: | "Paul Petty" <paulpetty(at)hughesnet.com> |
I stock and sell Areoquip Fc332 in all sizes call for prices @ 601-782-4506 ask
for Paul. Get the good stuff! Special prices for my kolb brothers and sisters
[Wink]
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Paul Petty
Kolbra #12
Ms Dixie
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| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
FANTASTIC!
Thank you, whoever took them. I do however have a concern or three:
The "mounting " method of that cow appeared somewhat unique. Would someone like
to explain that method. I realize you just left Hooters and all the booze, but
still, that is somewhat an unorthodox method. Right front leg seems very unconventional.
Oh, well. I dare not dwell.
The line about the most poluted area in the nation, I found rather unusual from
a Californian. Is that really true?
Can you recall the altitude you were flying when you took the picture of the Presidential
heads. I know that in reality, they are only 30 feet across total,
and when I traveled there by motorcycle, was really let down. I somehow expected
something larger. So by all outward appearances, you were about 100 feet off
the ground?
Lastly, Never mock "Wall Drugs" or their distant calling with sineage every 30
feet from Chicago. As an x-biker, I looked forward to finding that place just
to get the free glass of water. I didn't recall the fly-over of Sturgis, S.D.
Could that be perhaps because after Bike week, they take the cardboard walls back
down, whilst sweeping up the drunks?
Thank you so much for thoses pictures and the captions. What a wonderful bunch
of aircraft in one location.
Ohio Ralph
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| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
MERFI
Mid-Eastern Regional Fly-In
Marion Ohio
August 26th and 27th
8:00 A.M. untill 5:00 P.M.
See Flier below
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Ohio Ralph
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| From: | "Guillermo Uribe" <WillUribe(at)aol.com> |
| Subject: | FireStar II flying the US- Mexican border |
Greetings Kolb fan,
It has been raining way too much here in the desert southwest so I thought I
would do a little recon over the Rio Grande this past Sunday.
Below is a link to a short video I took during the flight.
Be advised the file is 4.92 MB so dialups need not view it.
http://members.aol.com/ELPEAA125/border.WMV
Regards,
Will Uribe
FireStar II
El Paso, TX
http://members.aol.com/willuribe/mv/
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| From: | "Larry Bourne" <biglar(at)gogittum.com> |
| Subject: | Re: FireStar II flying the US- Mexican border |
Nicely done, Will. One a these days................ :-) Do
not Archive.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Guillermo Uribe" <WillUribe(at)aol.com>
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 7:08 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: FireStar II flying the US- Mexican border
>
> Greetings Kolb fan,
> It has been raining way too much here in the desert southwest so I thought
> I
> would do a little recon over the Rio Grande this past Sunday.
> Below is a link to a short video I took during the flight.
> Be advised the file is 4.92 MB so dialups need not view it.
> http://members.aol.com/ELPEAA125/border.WMV
>
> Regards,
> Will Uribe
> FireStar II
> El Paso, TX
> http://members.aol.com/willuribe/mv/
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: FireStar II flying the US- Mexican border |
| From: | "N111KX (Kip)" <n111kx(at)mindspring.com> |
Pretty cool, Will. :)
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Kip
Firestar II (born September 2000)
Atlanta, GA
N111KX
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| Subject: | Re: FireStar II flying the US- Mexican border |
| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
Will, I'm impressed! Probably I use that too much. But I am. I know that you are
dealing with thermals as I am watching the "Step away from the string"! Hey,
in the video, you had that "schreec sound" as your wheels touched the asphalt.
We dont' get that with grass!
You do good, my man. I would be interested in your camera mount. I have a Canon
ES190 with 440 digital zoom and would be really interested in how and where you
mounted yours. I have often looked at the "wing support tab". Not sure how
well that would work.
See, we could trade video's; in the winter, you could send me really "hot" videos
of desolation and heat, and I could send you pictures of the ground covered
with snow, to the point I would have no idea where the field is. That would cool
you off. How about it.
And Mikie, I hope this isn't percieved as Babbalon. You know where that "Babble-on
" came from in the Bible don't you?
Ohio Ralph.......really hot here in Ohio!
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| From: | "Guillermo Uribe" <WillUribe(at)aol.com> |
| Subject: | Re: FireStar II flying the US- Mexican border |
Hi Ralph,
I had a gusting cross wind to deal with when landing. Normally I like to
land long and touch down mid field to avoid a long taxi. It was not my
intention to touch down where I did but since I was being blow away from
center line I figured it was time to land.
A short while ago someone posted a picture of a Kolb with a camera mounted
on the side of the fuselage using a RAM mount. I wish I can remember who
posted it so I can give him credit for the idea. I already had the RAM mount
so when I saw the picture I had to try it out on my next flight.
Erich Weaver of California mounts his camera on the wing support tab, take a
look.
http://gtalexander.home.att.net/cam_mount.html
Regards,
Will Uribe
FireStar II
El Paso, TX
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Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 12:13 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: FireStar II flying the US- Mexican border
Will, I'm impressed! Probably I use that too much. But I am. I know that you
are dealing with thermals as I am watching the "Step away from the string"!
Hey, in the video, you had that "schreec sound" as your wheels touched the
asphalt. We dont' get that with grass!
You do good, my man. I would be interested in your camera mount. I have a
Canon ES190 with 440 digital zoom and would be really interested in how and
where you mounted yours. I have often looked at the "wing support tab". Not
sure how well that would work.
See, we could trade video's; in the winter, you could send me really "hot"
videos of desolation and heat, and I could send you pictures of the ground
covered with snow, to the point I would have no idea where the field is.
That would cool you off. How about it.
And Mikie, I hope this isn't percieved as Babbalon. You know where that
"Babble-on " came from in the Bible don't you?
Ohio Ralph.......really hot here in Ohio!
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| From: | "Chuck Stonex" <cstonex(at)msn.com> |
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| From: | "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart(at)onlyinternet.net> |
| Subject: | FireFly Propeller Wash Over Horizontal Tail Surfaces |
>
>Well, maybe. I'm not convinced, but I have to admit I don't really know.
>I've never thought it was necessary to "tease the throttle forward". I
>don't JAM it forward, but that's out of respect for the engine, not concern
>about nosing over. Empirically, it would be easy enough to determine
>whether the prop wash extends down as far as the elevator or not, just by
>getting down on your hands and knees immediately behind a Kolb with the
>engine running. I'm going to guess you will get a faceful of wind. :)
>
Lee, John H. and FireFlyers,
It has been HOT and so I took some measurements to determine what the true
case would be for the FireFly. Then I tufted the horizontal tail surfaces
to see the direct airflow over the stabilizer and elevator. I found out
that John H. was correct in that the propeller wash does contact the
horizontal tail surfaces on the FireFly.
At maximum up elevator, 14.3% of the elevator area is hit by propeller wash.
At the neutral position, 1.8% of the elevator area is hit by the propeller
wash. I tufted the tail to see if these numbers were reasonable and they
are.
How it was done can be seen at:
http://www.thirdshift.com/jack/firefly/firefly129.html
If you are interested in checking out your plane, I would recommend using a
fishing rod with a foam fishing bobber attached. This way you can readily
feel the difference between entrained air and direct propeller wash. It is
much simpler than tufting.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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| From: | Richard Pike <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
| Subject: | Re: FireFly Propeller Wash Over Horizontal Tail Surfaces |
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| From: | Terry <tkrolfe(at)usadatanet.net> |
| Subject: | Re: FireFly Propeller Wash Over Horizontal Tail Surfaces |
Jack,
You did it again!!! Thanks for sharing your information with us. I
always look forward to seeing what your doing and the innovative
solutions you bring to problems or questions.
I noticed that you have raised the horizontal stab above factory specs
as have I. I got a cleaner flight by doing so with out doing trim
tabs. I have mine 5/8" above standard, what is yours? I know this is
dependent on the pilots weight being a factor and the speed at which you
cruise. For me, I have found the sweet spot on my FireFly.
For Richard, concerning sealing the gap between the stab and boom, would
an air dam made out of lexan along the inside edge of the stab work as
well? Let us know how you make out with this.
Terry - FireFly #95
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| From: | Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Re: FireFly Propeller Wash Over Horizontal Tail Surfaces |
On Aug 9, 2006, at 1:32 PM, Terry wrote:
> For Richard, concerning sealing the gap between the stab and boom,
> would an air dam made out of lexan along the inside edge of the
> stab work as well?
I thought about gluing a strip of foam rubber to the boom tube.
The up elevator seems plenty effective enough as it is on my
Firestar, but a Mark III with two up may find some definite advantage
with the gap sealed.
Perhaps I'll wait till someone finds a noticeable advantage with this
gap sealed.
Gene
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| Subject: | Firestar II HKS Conversion |
| From: | "Dave Bigelow" <up_country(at)hotmail.com> |
I've been working with Jerry Olenick of Green Sky Adventures over the past month
or so to determine the feasibility of converting my Firestar 2 from Rotax 503
power to HKS 700E power. After lots of tape measure work and study of the engine
drawings, plus a number of pictures and emails back and forth, we believe
the conversion can be done without modification of the orginal Firestar engine
mounts. I ordered the engine today, and it should arrive sometime in the next
month or so.
Assuming the conversion works OK, Jerry will produce a kit to sell with the HKS
that will be designed specifically for the Firestar 2. Since the HKS has worked
out quite well as a direct replacement for Rotax 582's on other ultralights,
there is some possibility that the HKS could be used on the Mark III and Slingshot
also.
If there is interest here on the Kolb List, I'll periodically post pictures and
progress reports. Let's keep questions and comments on the List, rather than
private emails. I have a question for the "conversion master", John Hauck, if
he will be so kind as to post that he's seen this thread.
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Dave Bigelow
Kamuela, Hawaii
FS2, Rotax 503 DCDI
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar II HKS Conversion |
| From: | "Dave Bigelow" <up_country(at)hotmail.com> |
Just found out that John Hauck is on his way to PA. Here's the question: Does
the Rotax 912 conversion on the Mark III involve a higher thrust line than the
original Rotax 582 design? If so, how many inches, and was the pitch trim change
appreciable?
The HKS Firestar conversion will involve a higher thrust line than that of the
503.
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Dave Bigelow
Kamuela, Hawaii
FS2, Rotax 503 DCDI
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| From: | "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Firestar II HKS Conversion |
Dave
When you put a different engine on a Kolb you will want to mount it so that
it has a minimum amount of clearance between the prop tips and the fuselage
tube. When I first mounted a direct drive VW on my MKIIIc I had a fairly
high thrust line but because it was direct drive turning the prop at a
extremely high prop RPM (3200-3600) it didn't produce enough thrust to be a
problem. When I later switched the engine to a reduction drive VW I used the
same engine mount but the reduction drive placed the prop 5 inches higher.
With the higher prop and the increased thrust the pitch trim got so bad that
I had to drastically reduce the forward CG limits. I would literally run out
of up elevator with high thrust levels at lower airspeeds. A missed
approach with its lower airspeed, hi thrust and flaps wow. A go around would
involve raising the flaps and gaining airspeed before climbing. Also I
always had to add power slowly on the ground. A basis for comparison is that
most engines on MKIIIs are set up to have around 2-3 inches of prop
clearance. On my first redrive engine I had 7 inches of clearance with a 72"
prop. My new redrive VW engine has a new lowered engine mount that brings
the clearance down to 2 inches with a 72" prop.
In summary the lower the thrust line the better these Kolb fly. The HKS on a
Firestar II could cause you problems with a higher thrust line. You say it
is higher. How much higher? An inch or two may not be too bad but if that
engine produces allot more thrust than a 503 you may want to be careful.
When you make these kinds of changes you become the designer and things like
CG ranges may be completely different.
Again this information is worth just what you paid for it.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Bigelow" <up_country(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 10:57 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Firestar II HKS Conversion
>
> Just found out that John Hauck is on his way to PA. Here's the question:
> Does the Rotax 912 conversion on the Mark III involve a higher thrust line
> than the original Rotax 582 design? If so, how many inches, and was the
> pitch trim change appreciable?
>
> The HKS Firestar conversion will involve a higher thrust line than that of
> the 503.
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar II HKS Conversion |
| From: | "Dave Bigelow" <up_country(at)hotmail.com> |
Thanks for the feedback, Rick. The HKS gearbox can be mounted in an up or down
position just like the Rotax. If I mount it with gearbox down (2.58:1 ratio),
I have to raise the engine 3 inches higher than the Rotax 503 to get 1.5 inches
of clearance with a 66 inch prop from the fuselage tube. I don't want any
less than 1.5 inches clearance, and don't like the idea of raising the HKS 3
inches.
If I mount the HKS with the gear box up (3.47:1 ratio), I can keep the HKS at a
reasonable height on the mounts, but end up with a thrust line 4.75 inches higher
than the Rotax 503 thrust line.
I'm looking at a 3 blade 70 inch prop. I believe there will be more thrust than
the 503 produces, but not a lot more.
Here's a link to the Green Sky Adventures web site. There's a world of information on the HKS and lots of pictures of other ultralights using the HKS. http://www.greenskyadventures.com/EnginePricing/HKS/home.htm
--------
Dave Bigelow
Kamuela, Hawaii
FS2, Rotax 503 DCDI
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| From: | "David Key" <dhkey(at)msn.com> |
Whatever happend to this plane?
http://www.recpower.com/KOLB-1f.jpg
How did it fly? Any information on this?
>From: "Dave Bigelow" <up_country(at)hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
>To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
>Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Firestar II HKS Conversion
>Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 01:37:45 -0700
>
>
>Thanks for the feedback, Rick. The HKS gearbox can be mounted in an up or
>down position just like the Rotax. If I mount it with gearbox down (2.58:1
>ratio), I have to raise the engine 3 inches higher than the Rotax 503 to
>get 1.5 inches of clearance with a 66 inch prop from the fuselage tube. I
>don't want any less than 1.5 inches clearance, and don't like the idea of
>raising the HKS 3 inches.
>
>If I mount the HKS with the gear box up (3.47:1 ratio), I can keep the HKS
>at a reasonable height on the mounts, but end up with a thrust line 4.75
>inches higher than the Rotax 503 thrust line.
>
>I'm looking at a 3 blade 70 inch prop. I believe there will be more thrust
>than the 503 produces, but not a lot more.
>
>Here's a link to the Green Sky Adventures web site. There's a world of
>information on the HKS and lots of pictures of other ultralights using the
>HKS. http://www.greenskyadventures.com/EnginePricing/HKS/home.htm
>
>--------
>Dave Bigelow
>Kamuela, Hawaii
>FS2, Rotax 503 DCDI
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=54026#54026
>
>
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| From: | WillUribe(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | FireStar II flying the US- Mexican border |
Hi Bill,
I use a Panasonic digital palmcorder model No. PV-GS200 with a Leica lens,
saves the digital video on tape and also saves 2.3 mega pixel still pictures
on a 1 GB memory card. The reason I liked this camcorder is it has a 3 CCD
image sensor system that handles color the same way as broadcast equipment
before they went to high definition cameras.
This picture was taken from the video, notice "La Migra's" watch tower on
the lower right hand corner, they are keeping our borders safe from terrorist.
The tower is enclosed like an airport control tower with air conditioning and
tinted windows. It is mounted on a trailer and can be moved any where along
the border. It uses hydraulics to raise and lower it.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Vincent
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FireStar II flying the US- Mexican border
Hi Will
The video was great! I am curious what is the model/make of the camera you
used. Was it a digital camera or a digital video camera? Sorry if you
already answered this question ... been having computer problems.
Thank you
Bill Vincent
Firestar II
Upper Peninsula of Michigan
Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Guillermo Uribe" <WillUribe(at)aol.com>
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 9:08 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: FireStar II flying the US- Mexican border
.
> Be advised the file is 4.92 MB so dialups need not view it.
> http://members.aol.com/ELPEAA125/border.WMV
>
> Regards,
> Will Uribe
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| From: | Scott Perkins <2scott(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Big Tennessee Fly-In Near Murfreesboro Sat August 12 |
Big Tennessee Fly-In Near Murfreesboro Sat August 12
Near Murfreesboro Salem Road Field Summer Fly-In
forwarded From: Herb Gayheart .............
Salem Road Field Summer Fly-In
Its time again for the 3rd annual Summer Fly-In hosted by
the Salem Road Field Flyers
This years event will be held on Saturday August 12, 2006
This is a Saturday fly-in with the field open for overnight camping
on Friday and Saturday nights.
While no competitions are scheduled, you never know what will come up on
the spur of the moment. Drawings throughout the day for prizes.
We will also be providing a sandwich lunch and Goulosh dinner on
Saturday and Pancake breakfast on Sunday morning.
Bring the spouse and the kids. The kids love our cable slide and cargo
net and tire swing.
Make sure to register for the prizes to be given away
2000x 80 grass runway (6 & 24) surrounded by open hay fields.
Hanger phone is (615) 286-4239
Directions.................
Driving: From Murfreesboro and I-24 go north on Highway 231
to about mile past Highway 452 (superspeedway highway).
Turn right on Simmons Bluff Road. Follow for about 4 miles
and turn right on Salem Road. Go over the one lane bridge
and after about 1000the driveway is on the left.
Watch for the orange sign and the wood fence down both
sides of the driveway. The address is 1925 Salem Road.
>From Lebanon and I-40 go south on Highway 231 about 9 miles.
Turn left on Simmons Bluff Road and follow direction above.
Flying: We are 4.7 miles and 102 east of the Fall Creek Airpark.
We are 11.7 miles and 030 NNE of Murfreesboro Airport.
We are 30.9 miles and 031 NNE of T-Top Airfield.
For those with a GPS we are at N3601.492 W08616.295
Calm wind runway is 24. Left hand pattern. Field elevation is 615.
CTAF 122.7
Windsocks are at both ends of runway and flag on NE corner of big
hangar.
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| From: | "john s. flannery" <jsflan(at)valornet.com> |
| Subject: | Fw: sensing problem |
----- Original Message -----
From: john s. flannery
Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 10:10 AM
Subject: sensing problem
Another problem on the Mark III, Gas gauge shows 1/4 full regardless of
the two jugs being half full or quarter full. The screws here are loose
in whatever nuts retain them and don't know if this total unit should
lift off. Since screw is loose, probe is also not a tight contact. As
you can see not much care has been taken with this part of the bird.
Suggestions? Thanks,
jsf
don not archive
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| From: | "Guy Morgan" <morganguy(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Fw: sensing problem |
Hi John,
Is it a float or capacitance system? Do you have a manual for it. Looks
like the wiring needs to be replaced at a minimum. Can you pull the unit
out and inspect it? That's what I would do to see if it can be repaired
or you need to replace it, IMHO.
Guy Morgan
Galveston, TX Firefly
----- Original Message -----
From: john s. flannery<mailto:jsflan(at)valornet.com>
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 12:37 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Fw: sensing problem
----- Original Message -----
From: john s. flannery<mailto:jsflan(at)valornet.com>
To: a jsf
Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 10:10 AM
Subject: sensing problem
Another problem on the Mark III, Gas gauge shows 1/4 full regardless
of the two jugs being half full or quarter full. The screws here are
loose in whatever nuts retain them and don't know if this total unit
should lift off. Since screw is loose, probe is also not a tight
contact. As you can see not much care has been taken with this part of
the bird. Suggestions? Thanks,
jsf
don not archive
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| From: | "David Key" <dhkey(at)msn.com> |
| Subject: | Fw: sensing problem |
The arm could be stuck. Take your guage out. Then move the arm up and down.
If your fuel guage moves then your arm was probably stuck or the short is on
the sender side. If the guage doesn't move when you move the arm then your
short is on the guage side. If you replace the guage then go with one with
numbers near 30-250ohm. I forget the exact numbers but those are real close.
>From: "john s. flannery" <jsflan(at)valornet.com>
>Reply-To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
>To:
>Subject: Kolb-List: Fw: sensing problem
>Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 10:37:13 -0700
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: john s. flannery
>To: a jsf
>Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 10:10 AM
>Subject: sensing problem
>
>
>Another problem on the Mark III, Gas gauge shows 1/4 full regardless of the
>two jugs being half full or quarter full. The screws here are loose in
>whatever nuts retain them and don't know if this total unit should lift
>off. Since screw is loose, probe is also not a tight contact. As you can
>see not much care has been taken with this part of the bird. Suggestions?
>Thanks,
>
>jsf
>
>don not archive
>
>
><< Kolbgasgauge35kb_8716.jpg >>
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: FireFly Propeller Wash Over Horizontal Tail Surfaces |
| I found out
| that John H. was correct in that the propeller wash does contact the
| horizontal tail surfaces on the FireFly.
|
| Jack B. Hart FF004
Thanks Jack B:
Really had no reason to BS you about prop wash and tails, hehehe.
Just goes to show you I have learned something about the airplanes I
have been fly for a while now.
john h
Candy Hill RV Park, Winchester, VA (where they have more rules than
the Army. Nell said it is because we are so close to Wash, DC.
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Firestar II HKS Conversion |
and Slingshot also.
|
| If there is interest here on the Kolb List, I'll periodically post
pictures and progress reports. Let's keep questions and comments on
the List, rather than private emails. I have a question for the
"conversion master", John Hauck, if he will be so kind as to post that
he's seen this thread.
|
| --------
| Dave Bigelow
Hi Dave B:
Don't know about the "conversion master" handle, but I have read your
email.
john h
mkIII
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Firestar II HKS Conversion |
| Just found out that John Hauck is on his way to PA. Here's the
question: Does the Rotax 912 conversion on the Mark III involve a
higher thrust line than the original Rotax 582 design? If so, how
many inches, and was the pitch trim change appreciable?
|
| The HKS Firestar conversion will involve a higher thrust line than
that of the 503.
|
| --------
| Dave Bigelow
Dave B:
I am a firm believer in getting the thrust line as low as possible.
I am running a 72" three blade Warp with 3/4" clearance between prop
tip and tail boom. Most of you all will think I am off my rocker, as
usual, but that is ok. With more than 1,000.00 hours in this
configuration, I think I am flying safely.
Higher thrust lines kill power and reduce performance, especially
getting off the ground. Takes a lot of nose up pitch to overcome high
thrust. Would think it much better to raise the engine and lower the
thrust line.
No difference between mounting 582 and 912, if I remember correctly.
Again, pitch trim is governed by thrust line and hp.
Talked with Gerry Olenik at Oshkosh. He briefed me on your
participation.
john h
mkIII
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Hey John,
| Thanks to your adventures and pictures of flying
around...
| and your advice during my building.... I,m now enjoying a little of
it myself
| Mike in MN
Hi Mike:
Wow! What an offer.
Without a doubt I know you mean what you say.
Thanks my friend.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | The New Kolb Aircraft Company Homeconing 2006 |
| From: | "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot2(at)comcast.net> |
I don't want anyone to forget that TNK Homecoming 2006 is on 22-24 Septermber
Fly-In, Drive-In or Ride-In, you will have a great time.
Pass the word to your flying friends and those that might be interested in buying
a Kolb.
I plan to get there on Thursday afternoon and will be available for anyone that
needs or wants a Flight Review on Friday and Saturday. Contact me off-list for
details on a Flight Review.
--------
John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolbra, 912ULS
http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot1
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=54233#54233
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| From: | "David Key" <dhkey(at)msn.com> |
How is the thing between the windshield and the gap seal attached? Rivets I
bet but I'd like to know.
Thanks,
David
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| From: | "David Key" <dhkey(at)msn.com> |
Are you giving the flight review in your plane? Are you able to endorse my
log book?
If you are a flight review in your plane would really help me. My flying
skills have been getting dull while I've been building. What do you charge?
David
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar II HKS Conversion |
| From: | "Dave Bigelow" <up_country(at)hotmail.com> |
> am running a 72" three blade Warp with 3/4" clearance between prop
> tip and tail boom. Most of you all will think I am off my rocker, as
> usual, but that is ok. With more than 1,000.00 hours in this
> configuration, I think I am flying safely
John,
Thanks for the info - I was thinking that 1.5 inches clearance from the tail boom
would be about as close as I would be comfortable with, but you can't argue
with success...... I spoke to Jerry Olenik today, and changed the HKS order
to an A gear box (2.58:1) mounted down. That way, I should be able to use my
66 inch Powerfin two blade prop, and still have more than 1/2 inch clearance from
the tail boom.
Should be an interesting comparison between the two engines, since I'll be using
the same gear ratios in a similar engine and prop RPM range.
--------
Dave Bigelow
Kamuela, Hawaii
FS2, Rotax 503 DCDI
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| Subject: | Re: Xtra question |
| From: | "Jim Ballenger" <ulpilot(at)cavtel.net> |
You're right. Rivet the fairing to the wing gap seal. Mine took a great deal
of fiberglass work to fit properly.
Jim
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=54337#54337
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| From: | "Rick Pearce" <rap(at)isp.com> |
| Subject: | Prop stepped bushing |
I went to install my prop for the first time the other night and the
stepped bushing that goes in the 912IULS hub would only go in to the
second step. I have not mic'd it yet but it does not look like it will
fit. I wanted to check with some else before I tried to force them in
and damage the hub. I have too much money invested in this eng. Better
to ask a stupid question than plunge ahead. Has any one else had this
problem? I e-mailed TNK Friday but have not heard from them yet. Rick
Pearce Mark 3 amphib.
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| From: | Cat36Fly(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Xtra question |
On my Xtra this piece is riveted to the gap seal/greenhouse and then
velcroed to the wings. The entire assembly comes off for wing folding opening
up the
whole top of the airplane.
Larry
MKlllx / 582
Nice looking airplane
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| From: | "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Firestar II HKS Conversion |
Dave
John obviously gets away with 3/4" clearance but be very careful cutting
that clearance any further. There is a lot of gyroscopic forces acting on
that prop as you go thru turbulence. Make sure with any engine mounting that
the engine can't flex on its mount enough to have a prop strike on the
fuselage tube.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Bigelow" <up_country(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 10:57 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Firestar II HKS Conversion
>
>
>> am running a 72" three blade Warp with 3/4" clearance between prop
>> tip and tail boom. Most of you all will think I am off my rocker, as
>> usual, but that is ok. With more than 1,000.00 hours in this
>> configuration, I think I am flying safely
>
>
> John,
> Thanks for the info - I was thinking that 1.5 inches clearance from the
> tail boom would be about as close as I would be comfortable with, but you
> can't argue with success...... I spoke to Jerry Olenik today, and changed
> the HKS order to an A gear box (2.58:1) mounted down. That way, I should
> be able to use my 66 inch Powerfin two blade prop, and still have more
> than 1/2 inch clearance from the tail boom.
>
> Should be an interesting comparison between the two engines, since I'll be
> using the same gear ratios in a similar engine and prop RPM range.
>
> --------
> Dave Bigelow
> Kamuela, Hawaii
> FS2, Rotax 503 DCDI
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=54307#54307
>
>
>
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| From: | Richard Pike <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
| Subject: | Re: Engine mount |
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| Subject: | What a God I serve! |
| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
Went down today. What a loving God I serve!
Wind was out of the North East, Landing on a field East. Building (hanger) blocked
the air, wind went out from under me. Plane was traveling 50 at 1180 ASL,
field is 1,140 ASL. Approximately 100 feet from edge of strip. Probably (?) applied
power while slightly (?) pulling stick back. BOOM!
Pictures attached. First: God thank you for covering my, you know what. Second,
Thank you Homer Kolb for the cage and the sissy bars. Third, Thank you Andy
Humphrey, Instructor for instilling the right things to do, even if I didn't apply
them all at the same time.
Total damage, not including engine which will be checked out for crank damage;
prop, sissy bars, underwear (just kidding), Pitot tube!
That's right, no wing damage, no tail end damage, no nose damage (fiberglass),no
tube damage, or landing gear, OR CAGE damage, thank you Homer, a little soy
beans, a very small amount of pride (don't have much of that left, thank you Jesus),
Chute did not deploy, thanks to the builder for putting it underneath rather
than on top, and lastly, no physical damage!
Soy field usage: 40 feet total for landing! Removed wings, turned over, pulled
back into hanger. Looked over for additional damage, found none. Will go over
with instructor next week and check closer.
When I got out the gas tank discharged slowly all 6 gallons of fuel: mags off,
power off, fuel pump off. Remove camera, cell phone, car keys, and asked myself:
" wonder what it's gonna cost to get back in the air"! Not: "wonder what somebody
would give me for this piece of &^%$%@$#".
Instructor said, "Proof, that I will fly again, and again, and again"!
Now need to find cheap new 66" x 3/4 wood prop, old one is on office wall AND on
hanger wall , next to instructors old Avenger's prop!
Exceeding my ability here in Ohio, but learning more each time Ralph!
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| From: | Richard Pike <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
| Subject: | Re: Engine mount |
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| From: | "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: What a God I serve! |
Ralph, Glad to hear you're in one piece and the Firestar, too.
If that 66 X 28 prop I offered will help you get back in the air, it's yours
to use. I'm 1900 miles away, but my girl friend can have it at Fedex in the
morning. Let me know if that will work and send your address.
Rick
On 8/12/06, Ralph Hoover wrote:
>
> >
>
> Went down today. What a loving God I serve!
>
> Wind was out of the North East, Landing on a field East. Building (hanger)
> blocked the air, wind went out from under me. Plane was traveling 50 at 1180
> ASL, field is 1,140 ASL. Approximately 100 feet from edge of strip. Probably
> (?) applied power while slightly (?) pulling stick back. BOOM!
>
> Pictures attached. First: God thank you for covering my, you know what.
> Second, Thank you Homer Kolb for the cage and the sissy bars. Third, Thank
> you Andy Humphrey, Instructor for instilling the right things to do, even if
> I didn't apply them all at the same time.
>
> Total damage, not including engine which will be checked out for crank
> damage; prop, sissy bars, underwear (just kidding), Pitot tube!
>
> That's right, no wing damage, no tail end damage, no nose damage
> (fiberglass),no tube damage, or landing gear, OR CAGE damage, thank you
> Homer, a little soy beans, a very small amount of pride (don't have much of
> that left, thank you Jesus), Chute did not deploy, thanks to the builder for
> putting it underneath rather than on top, and lastly, no physical damage!
>
> Soy field usage: 40 feet total for landing! Removed wings, turned over,
> pulled back into hanger. Looked over for additional damage, found none. Will
> go over with instructor next week and check closer.
>
> When I got out the gas tank discharged slowly all 6 gallons of fuel: mags
> off, power off, fuel pump off. Remove camera, cell phone, car keys, and
> asked myself: " wonder what it's gonna cost to get back in the air"! Not:
> "wonder what somebody would give me for this piece of &^%$%@$#".
>
> Instructor said, "Proof, that I will fly again, and again, and again"!
>
> Now need to find cheap new 66" x 3/4 wood prop, old one is on office wall
> AND on hanger wall , next to instructors old Avenger's prop!
>
> Exceeding my ability here in Ohio, but learning more each time Ralph!
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=54424#54424
>
>
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>
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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| From: | <kfackler(at)ameritech.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Xtra question |
David:
I checked today on the MkIIIx that shares hangar space with me. You were
right, it's rivets.
-Ken
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Key" <dhkey(at)msn.com>
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 8:28 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Xtra question
> How is the thing between the windshield and the gap seal attached? Rivets
I
> bet but I'd like to know.
> Thanks,
> David
>
>
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| From: | Thom Riddle <jtriddle(at)adelphia.net> |
| Subject: | Yellow Firestar owner? |
I went to a Fly-In at Dart Field (D79) in south western NY Saturday and
as I was departing, I saw a yellow Kolb Firestar arriving. If I had not
had to get back home, I'd have landed again and talked to the guy. It
was not Ed Steuber or Bob Bean. Their Kolbs are neither Firestars nor
yellow.
Does anyone on the list know who owns a yellow Firestar in western NY
or northwestern PA?
Thom in Buffalo
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| From: | Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Yellow Firestar owner? |
Tom,
I sold a Firestar to a guy in upper Pa . two years ago, not sure
exactly where he lived but his name I believe was Louie Slyder.
Attached is a picture of the plane
On Aug 13, 2006, at 6:44 AM, Thom Riddle wrote:
>
> I went to a Fly-In at Dart Field (D79) in south western NY Saturday
> and as I was departing, I saw a yellow Kolb Firestar arriving. If I
> had not had to get back home, I'd have landed again and talked to
> the guy. It was not Ed Steuber or Bob Bean. Their Kolbs are
> neither Firestars nor yellow.
>
> Does anyone on the list know who owns a yellow Firestar in western
> NY or northwestern PA?
>
> Thom in Buffalo
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: What a God I serve! |
| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
Mike, That is a great (watch his head swell now) idea. It didn't initially register
but when it did, WOW! That is simple and does the job. Thanks. I have only
one question, clear venting. How do you know or make sure in your walk around
that the vents are clear of (here's that word) Mud Daubers, spider webs, or
faunta and/or floura?
I would be most interested in doing what you did, if I can be confident that the
system can breath, or I might have traded a one time problem for an everytime
problem.
Thanks again Mike.
P.S. here are a few more pictures of the plane up close and personal.
Ohio Ralph
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| From: | Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Re: What a God I serve! |
On Aug 12, 2006, at 4:24 PM, Ralph Hoover wrote:
>
> Went down today. What a loving God I serve!
>
>
> Total damage, not including engine which will be checked out for
> crank damage; prop, sissy bars, underwear (just kidding), Pitot tube!
>
> That's right, no wing damage, no tail end damage, no nose damage
> (fiberglass),no tube damage, or landing gear, OR CAGE damage, thank
> you Homer, a little soy beans, a very small amount of pride (don't
> have much of that left, thank you Jesus), Chute did not deploy,
> thanks to the builder for putting it underneath rather than on top,
> and lastly, no physical damage!
WHAAAT ! ! ?? So little damage with a total flip (on the ground)
is unheard of ! ! !
Just don't EVER try that again! Ya hear now? ;^)
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| From: | "Steven Green" <Kolbdriver(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Fuel Tank Vent |
I have included a link to a Pneumatic muffler that I used on my fuel tank
vent that is routed to the bottom of the fuselage.
http://www1.mscdirect.com/CGI/NNSRIT?PMPXNO=1809701&PMT4NO=10617314
Steven Green
How do you know or make sure in your walk around that the vents are clear
of (here's that word) Mud Daubers, spider webs, or faunta and/or floura?
>
> I would be most interested in doing what you did, if I can be confident
that the system can breath, or I might have traded a one time problem for an
everytime problem.
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| From: | "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Fuel Tank Vent |
Try bits of kitchen sponge in the end of the vent lines. If that's too shade
tree mechanic for you (couldn't help myself guys), you can find crankcase
vents designed to mount to hose with cool chrome fittings at your local
Harley dealer.
Rick
On 8/13/06, Steven Green wrote:
>
>
> I have included a link to a Pneumatic muffler that I used on my fuel tank
> vent that is routed to the bottom of the fuselage.
>
> http://www1.mscdirect.com/CGI/NNSRIT?PMPXNO=1809701&PMT4NO=10617314
>
> Steven Green
>
>
> How do you know or make sure in your walk around that the vents are clear
> of (here's that word) Mud Daubers, spider webs, or faunta and/or floura?
> >
> > I would be most interested in doing what you did, if I can be confident
> that the system can breath, or I might have traded a one time problem for
> an
> everytime problem.
>
>
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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| From: | "Chris Mallory" <wcm(at)tampabay.rr.com> |
You can use aquarium air diffusers for vent filters, they are cheap and
disposable and plug right in to vent size tubing.
They come in a varity of sizes and styles (the glass bead ones work well).
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| From: | russ kinne <kinnepix(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Fuel Tank Vent |
You an also tape a small piece of screen 'wire' -- fibreglass or
nylon, usually -- over the end of the vent tube. Secure it with
filament (strapping) tape & it will last for a few years. Can also
check vent lines for blockage by blowing into them. Can feel if
solidly blocked of if you're just blowing against a little tank
pressure. Lo-tech maybe but it worx.
On Aug 13, 2006, at 7:11 PM, Richard Girard wrote:
> Try bits of kitchen sponge in the end of the vent lines. If that's
> too shade tree mechanic for you (couldn't help myself guys), you
> can find crankcase vents designed to mount to hose with cool chrome
> fittings at your local Harley dealer.
>
> Rick
>
> On 8/13/06, Steven Green wrote:
> Kolbdriver(at)bellsouth.net>
>
> I have included a link to a Pneumatic muffler that I used on my
> fuel tank
> vent that is routed to the bottom of the fuselage.
>
> http://www1.mscdirect.com/CGI/NNSRIT?PMPXNO=1809701&PMT4NO=10617314
>
> Steven Green
>
>
> How do you know or make sure in your walk around that the vents are
> clear
> of (here's that word) Mud Daubers, spider webs, or faunta and/or
> floura?
>
>
> --
> Rick Girard
> "Ya'll drop on in"
> takes on a whole new meaning
> when you live at the airport.
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| From: | "Denny Rowe" <rowedl(at)highstream.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Fule tank vent |
How about the little fuel filters like the ones in chainsaw or weed
whacker fuel tanks? I think they are called finger filters and they work
perfectly for keeping insects out of the vent lines.
Denny Rowe,
Mk-3, PA
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| From: | Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Sunday evening at the Kolb Farm |
Happy Campers!
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| From: | Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Sunday evening at the Kolb Farm |
Admiring Dan Walter's Ultrastar!
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| From: | Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Sunday evening at the Kolb Farm |
Wonderful hanger flying by the Hauck! !
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| From: | Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Sunday evening at the Kolb Farm |
And you should have heard that'n !
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| From: | Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Sunday evening at the Kolb Farm |
Watch This !
Terry, Homer, Jim , and John,,,,,,, Ready, get set ,,,,,, Go!
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| From: | "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Fule tank vent |
And then there is the option to use a cover with a "Remove Before Flight"
streamer or even the little spring loaded cover that's used on some GA
aircraft.
On 8/13/06, Denny Rowe wrote:
>
> How about the little fuel filters like the ones in chainsaw or weed
> whacker fuel tanks? I think they are called finger filters and they work
> perfectly for keeping insects out of the vent lines.
>
> Denny Rowe,
> Mk-3, PA
>
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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| From: | DCulver701(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Yellow Firestar owner? |
Thom, ive been following the Kolb & Titan list for quite a while now, and was
just wondering what you're flying now? Best regards, Dave Culver
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| From: | "john s. flannery" <jsflan(at)valornet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Yellow Firestar owner? |
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| From: | DCulver701(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Yellow Firestar owner? |
Thom, the Allegro sure is a beautiful looking plane. I think i heard you
mention once what your'e flying, but had no idea what it looked like. You had
me curious as to what you went to after the titan. Thanks for the response
and the nice picture. Safe flying, best regards. Dave Culver (
Please don't archive)
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| From: | Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Yellow Firestar owner? |
On Aug 14, 2006, at 8:32 PM, Thom Riddle wrote:
> Where is Smoketown?
http://www.airnav.com/airport/S37
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| Subject: | Re: Sunday evening at the Kolb Farm |
| From: | "George Alexander" <gtalexander(at)att.net> |
Gene, Bill, Ron, et al:
When I got the original message, as has been the case in many of Gene's postings
w/images, two files per image are shown. One that appears to be compatible
with MAC/Apple machines and another for PC/DOS machines. Have had no problems
opening the PC image file listed.
Unfortunately, I saved the images and dumped the messages and for whatever the
reason, can't find Gene's original msg in the forum.
Bill, the PC vs Apple issue would be consistent with the error message that you
get if you are using a PC machine.
Eugene Zimmerman wrote:
> Hi Bill,
> The pictures are all JPEG files. The only reason I can think of for
> them not opening is that the file names may be too long for your
> browser.
> If you would like I could try renaming the files and send them to
> your personal address.
>
> I am curious to know if anyone else was unable to open the picts?
>
> On Aug 14, 2006, at 8:48 PM, Bill Vincent wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Hi Eugene
> Sorry, but I can't open your pictures, we get a box that states:
> File does not have program associated with it for performing this
> (open) action.
>
> ---
--------
George Alexander
http://gtalexander.home.att.net
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=54900#54900
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| Subject: | Re: Sunday evening at the Kolb Farm |
| From: | "Eugene Zimmerman" <etzim62(at)earthlink.net> |
Ok, I apologize for the redundancy but for the sake of the people who could not
open the pictures the first time I'll try again by posting them on the BBS forum
interface.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=54901#54901
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/5_163.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/4_144.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/3_101.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/2_793.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/1_102.jpg
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| Subject: | Alternate engine possibility for Firestar or Firefly |
Hello all,
I ran across this today on the web. I don't know anything about it, but I
thought I would pass it along.
http://www.rotary-xr40.com/
Jason
MKIIIC BMW R100 (finished and FAA approved, just trying to find the best
place to test fly it)
Portland, OR
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| Subject: | Re: Alternate engine possibility for Firestar or Firefly |
| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
Interesting. Single cylinder with reduced vibration, rotary. Single carb. I do
however wonder the fairness of the 'efciency rating against the 503 DIDC (which
I have of my firestar), as being 4 GPH. Appears to be a very inifficient RPM
and speed for the test aircraft with the 503. Dont know.
Radiator and electric start at 55 #. Pretty impresive.
"Phantom X-1, 260 lb pilot and 30 lbs of fuel". Thats a heavey duty pilot, even
from my standards (220#). Guess with all that it might be close to 4 gph. If
the pilot is the same one in the picture on your opening page, he has too have
a huge butt, caues he is about average in build.
I do have a question. How do you "derate an engine from 52 hp to 40 hp? If its
based on rpm, then I understand, even though I could rev engine past the rated
RPM.
Soyfused (verses Cornfused, which I would probably be dead by now), in Ohio Ralph!
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=55016#55016
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| From: | "ron wehba" <rwehba(at)cebridge.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Sunday evening at the Kolb Farm |
yup got em this time thanks
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eugene Zimmerman" <etzim62(at)earthlink.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 6:49 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Sunday evening at the Kolb Farm
>
>
> Ok, I apologize for the redundancy but for the sake of the people who
> could not open the pictures the first time I'll try again by posting them
> on the BBS forum interface.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=54901#54901
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/5_163.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/4_144.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/3_101.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/2_793.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/1_102.jpg
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Sunday evening at the Kolb Farm |
| From: | "Eugene Zimmerman" <etzim62(at)earthlink.net> |
Bill/All
For an EXCELLENT photo visit to several of the past Kolb farm get togethers I
recomend you check out Geo Alexander's photos.
http://home.comcast.net/~kolbplanes/
Thanks George,
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=55146#55146
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| Subject: | Re: Alternate engine possibility for Firestar or Firefly |
Bryan and I saw this at SnF the last two years in a row. It really has a
potential for the Firefly.
I would love to put one on the Firefly Floatplane, BUT, It's exhaust
configuration does not lend itself to a pusher application. You can probably work
around it but have been waiting to see how the engine works for a while. It has
a really nice alternator and starter at less weight than a 447. Maybe the
importer will come up with a pusher configuration.
Steve
Firefly 007 on floats
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| From: | "john s. flannery" <jsflan(at)valornet.com> |
| Subject: | corroded gas gauge |
Not into endorsements but found a product which might help someone. The
fuel gauge was totally corroded when I pulled it. Found EVAPORUST AT
Autozone under ten bucks and also with a rebate until December of this
year. Soaked gauge overnight and cleaned up beautifully. Not sure gauge
works... have to rewire...still a problem there, but this cleaned up
nicely. Can't believe either that something labeled Environmentally safe
actually works. Now need to know about unusual wraps from CHT sensor
wire near muffler, and if with sensors, there should still be washers
under the sparkplugs.
jsf
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| From: | "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell(at)fmtcblue.com> |
| Subject: | Re: corroded gas gauge |
----- Original Message -----
From: john s. flannery
. Now need to know about unusual wraps from CHT sensor wire near
muffler, and if with sensors, there should still be washers under the
sparkplugs.
jsf
Yes you do. I asked that very question at the LSA maintenance school
that I just attended at Corning, Ca.
Larry, Oregon
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| From: | "john s. flannery" <jsflan(at)valornet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: corroded gas gauge |
Thanks Larry,
Thought maybe the washers were causing or would cause a problem. Do you
still anneal washer after cleaning plugs as we did with spamcans?
I bought, but haven't installed a replacement CHT sensor. Did get
gauge to rise sporadically with the old, but it was always 100 degrees
below the other with equal heat. So new one goes in when I get back out
to hangar.
j
----- Original Message -----
From: Larry Cottrell
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: corroded gas gauge
----- Original Message -----
From: john s. flannery
. Now need to know about unusual wraps from CHT sensor wire near
muffler, and if with sensors, there should still be washers under the
sparkplugs.
jsf
Yes you do. I asked that very question at the LSA maintenance school
that I just attended at Corning, Ca.
Larry, Oregon
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| From: | "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell(at)fmtcblue.com> |
| Subject: | Re: corroded gas gauge |
----- Original Message -----
From: john s. flannery
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: corroded gas gauge
Thanks Larry,
Thought maybe the washers were causing or would cause a problem. Do
you still anneal washer after cleaning plugs as we did with spamcans?
I guess the rest of the list is on vacation or something, but about
your question, if it was me I would throw away the old plugs and buy new
ones. I believe that 25 hours is the recommended interval.
Larry,Oregon
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| From: | Bob Noyer <a58r(at)verizon.net> |
This from another list: (no, I didn't do it!)
I made a hard landing tonight (PPC) and my Ivo prop nicked my upper
strut. I have another strut but one blade on the prop has a slightly
damaged tip. It looks like it is delaminated slightly. I heard that
super glue and baking soda would fix it. If anyone knows how, please
post ASAP. I want to fly Saturday.
I suspect tip repairs aren't the same as a small nick. Any replies
will be forwarded.
regards,
Bob N.
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/
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| From: | <kfackler(at)ameritech.net> |
I strongly encourage you to contact Ivo for a consultation. I've found
them to be very helpful.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Noyer
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 11:24 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: prop repair
This from another list: (no, I didn't do it!)
I made a hard landing tonight (PPC) and my Ivo prop nicked my upper
strut. I have another strut but one blade on the prop has a slightly
damaged tip. It looks like it is delaminated slightly. I heard that
super glue and baking soda would fix it. If anyone knows how, please
post ASAP. I want to fly Saturday.
I suspect tip repairs aren't the same as a small nick. Any replies
will be forwarded.
regards,
Bob N.
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/
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| From: | Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62(at)earthlink.net> |
Hi Bob,
If it were mine and the damage is not too extensive I would cut both
tips on a twenty degree angle as per Terry Frantz / Jack Hart . They
both give reports of excellent results in performance AND NOISE
REDUCTION.
An example of the tip profile can be seen at ,,,,,,
http://www.top-flite.com/accys/topq5000.html
Gene
On Aug 17, 2006, at 11:24 PM, Bob Noyer wrote:
> This from another list: (no, I didn't do it!)
>
> I made a hard landing tonight (PPC) and my Ivo prop nicked my upper
> strut. I have another strut but one blade on the prop has a slightly
> damaged tip. It looks like it is delaminated slightly. I heard that
> super glue and baking soda would fix it. If anyone knows how, please
> post ASAP. I want to fly Saturday.
>
> I suspect tip repairs aren't the same as a small nick. Any replies
> will be forwarded.
>
> regards,
> Bob N.
> http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/
>
>
> www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List _-
> www.matronics.com/contribution _-
> ===========================================================
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| From: | "George Myers" <gmyers(at)grandecom.net> |
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| From: | Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62(at)earthlink.net> |
Huh? What?
On Aug 18, 2006, at 8:28 AM, George Myers wrote:
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar II HKS Conversion |
| From: | "John Jung" <jrjungjr(at)yahoo.com> |
Dave and Group,
I, also, have an interest in the HKS. I just didn't want to be the first one to
put one on a Firestar. So, I will be following your reports on this project.
I've been away from my Firestar for the summer, but I'll be back in a few weeks,
and ready to start flying and working on it again.
--------
John Jung
Firestar II N6163J
Surprise, AZ
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=55565#55565
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| From: | "George Myers" <gmyers(at)grandecom.net> |
> I made a hard landing tonight (PPC) and my Ivo prop nicked my upper
Super glue is useless for delaminations but is perfect for nicks in the
blade.
With a file clean out all loose material and smooth any bulged edges.
Put a couple teaspoons of baking soda in a shallow container so you can
easily pinch a hefty finger of it.
With the nick as level as you can get it, carefully wet the surface of the
nick with super glue and immediately sprinkle on enough baking soda to
completely dry it. Careful, it will dry instantly. On wood props in
particular make sure to wet every nook & cranny. A layer of masking tape on
each side under the nick will keep any overflows from sticking to the blade.
Continue wetting and sprinkling until the patch is slightly wider and taller
than the nick. Then file it down to match the prop.
Works on wood or composite.
George
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| From: | possums <possums(at)mindspring.com> |
| Subject: | Re: corroded gas gauge |
At 08:25 PM 8/18/2006, you wrote:
>
>My memory may be failing me on this but it (my memory) is currently
>telling me that I was taught in A&P school to REPLACE the spark plug
>washer with the CHT thermocouple ring, not stack them. When I asked
>why (which I did a lot), I was told that if you do not, the reach or
>the location of the spark gap would be different from the design distance.
That is what I've always done - 503 dual-carb CDI - 700 hours.
Plugs ..every 25 hours, whether they need it or not.
Just the cost of doing business.
http://www.mindspring.com/~possums/
PS ---- I use the expensive plugs too, so it hurts (just a little).
"So ....did you jump son? Yeah Dad .... just a little!"
You know the joke.
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| From: | "Wayne T. McCullough" <blackbird754(at)alltel.net> |
My e-mail has been changed to blackbird754(at)windstream.net
Thanks,
Wayne McCullough
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Jung" <jrjungjr(at)yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 1:55 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Firestar II HKS Conversion
>
> Dave and Group,
>
> I, also, have an interest in the HKS. I just didn't want to be the first
> one to put one on a Firestar. So, I will be following your reports on this
> project.
>
> I've been away from my Firestar for the summer, but I'll be back in a few
> weeks, and ready to start flying and working on it again.
>
> --------
> John Jung
> Firestar II N6163J
> Surprise, AZ
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=55565#55565
>
>
>
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| From: | Flycrazy8(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: S.P. Practical test |
Congraulations on your Sports Pilot License. Way to GO !!!!
Can you tell some of us who haven't taken the Practical test what to expect ?
Thanking you in advance.
Stephen
Firefly
Alabama
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| From: | Lanny Fetterman <donaho(at)csrlink.net> |
| Subject: | S.P. Practical Test |
Stephen and All, The test was brutal, we started at 9 am. and finished at
3 pm. The oral part lasted for four hours, we took a half hour lunch break
then flew for an hour, then a half hour of paper work. My brain was drained
when we were finished. The examiner asked at least two guestions from each
standard, however he was VERY fair. If my answer didn`t please him, he kept
dragging out information from me until he was satisfied. He zeroed in on
air space, we spent about an hour looking at a sectional map, he would
point to something on the map, and have me tell him everything I could
about that air space. If I said that I could not fly in a certain airspace
with a S.P. rating, he wanted to know if I could fly under or over it. As
it is an open book test I spent a lot of time finding the answers in the
FAR`S. The flight test consisted of everything listed in the standards,
once again he was very fair. Before the flight he told me the standard is
not perfection, as long as the outcome of the maneuver was never in doubt.
I guess that is a judgement call on his part. It is my opinion that the
examiner can make you or break you , I was lucky to find a good one. Lanny
Fetterman F.S. II N598LF
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| Subject: | New Subject : sling Shot qualities |
| From: | Herb Gayheart <herbgh(at)juno.com> |
Guys
Anyone have an opinion on the flying qualities of the Slingshot? I
have found a quick build kit. Thanks Herb in Ky
Ps Flew my Firefly abt 137 miles out and back to a flyin at Hodgenville
Ky today.. Accompanied by another Firefly owned by Mike Thompson..
Unfortunately we were the flyin.. Weather kept all the other fliers in
the coop. I arrived home just before thunderstorms moved through... :-)
Felt as if I was flying through 1% milk all day!
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| From: | WADE LAWICKI <wlawicki(at)yahoo.com> |
Group,
Trying to compile a list of friendly fields in Tn.,Ky.,Al. any GPS#,
contact info, field conditions would be great! Kind of like the Frapper site
but, more useable.
Please e-mail info direct to me off list.
Thanks,
Wade FS2
---------------------------------
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| Subject: | Trailering a Kolb |
| From: | "George Alexander" <gtalexander(at)att.net> |
Kolbers:
Finally got around to putting up pictures of the trailer setup that I use to store
and transport my Firestar II. (Finally..... shoemaker's children and all
that stuff.)
Go to: http://gtalexander.home.att.net and then click on "Trailering a Kolb"
Although I say so in the web material, in case you miss it, I want to acknowledge
those that contributed to this being a good alternative to enclosed hangar
space.
Mike Shackelford built the trailer. Much of the design came from Richard Swiderski's
trailer with Mike adding many neat features. Trailer is solidly built,
yet not terribly heavy. It did well by the Firestar moving from WV to NJ (365
miles) and then from NJ to FL (1250 miles). Contributing to features/changes
since I have had it are my two neighbors at Airport Mantee... Chris Mallory
and Beauford Tuton. To all these guys..... I thank you. The contributions
by all of you allow me to pull up to the trailer, off load the plane, put it together,
do a thorough preflight, don my gear and be ready to go in 30-35 minutes.
(That assumes no one is around who wants to chat.) Similarly, if I had
to get it out of there (as in hurricane evacuation), I could have the FS secured
for travel in the trailer and the trailer up on its wheels and ready to roll
in a couple of hours. (Since I leave the trailer at the airport all the time,
it is strapped down to anchors similar to mobile homes and the wheels removed
to get it lower to the ground making it easier to roll the plane on and off.)
Again, thanks to the contributors.
On a side note, in the process of putting this stuff up, discovered that I had
inadvertantly wiped out Dennis Kirby's material when I put Larry Cottrell's.
I apologize to Dennis. Stuff's getting harder to keep up with.
If any others have trailer material that they want up on this site, please feel
free to contact me.
--------
George Alexander
http://gtalexander.home.att.net
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=55812#55812
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| From: | "David Key" <dhkey(at)msn.com> |
| Subject: | Melted D-Cell batteries |
I put the batteries in the ELT and the ELT didn't work. I started working on
something else and after a few hours went back to the ELT and there was a
liquid all over it. Upon inspection it looks like at least one battery sprug
a leek. So do I have bad batteries? A short? I'm 99% sure I put them in the
right way. Should I put another set in the same way?
Thanks,
David Key
>From: WADE LAWICKI <wlawicki(at)yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
>To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
>Subject: Kolb-List: Field Locations
>Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 19:15:22 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Group,
> Trying to compile a list of friendly fields in Tn.,Ky.,Al. any
>GPS#, contact info, field conditions would be great! Kind of like the
>Frapper site but, more useable.
> Please e-mail info direct to me off list.
> Thanks,
>
>Wade FS2
>
>
>---------------------------------
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| From: | "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Melted D-Cell batteries |
David, Before you do anything I'd think that last 1% would be worth
determining.
On 8/19/06, David Key wrote:
>
>
> I put the batteries in the ELT and the ELT didn't work. I started working
> on
> something else and after a few hours went back to the ELT and there was a
> liquid all over it. Upon inspection it looks like at least one battery
> sprug
> a leek. So do I have bad batteries? A short? I'm 99% sure I put them in
> the
> right way. Should I put another set in the same way?
> Thanks,
> David Key
>
>
> >From: WADE LAWICKI <wlawicki(at)yahoo.com>
> >Reply-To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> >To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> >Subject: Kolb-List: Field Locations
> >Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 19:15:22 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >Group,
> > Trying to compile a list of friendly fields in Tn.,Ky.,Al.
> any
> >GPS#, contact info, field conditions would be great! Kind of like the
> >Frapper site but, more useable.
> > Please e-mail info direct to me off list.
> > Thanks,
> >
> >Wade FS2
> >
> >
> >---------------------------------
>
>
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "BOB BROCKMAN" <packerbeagle(at)msn.com> |
Being a new guy, my question is concerning an aircraft similar to a
Kolb.
Can anyone tell me about an airplane called the Ferguson FX -4-2?
I would appreciate any comments regarding the aircraft.
thanks,
bob
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "pat ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: S.P. Practical Test |
As it is an open book test I spent a lot of time finding the answers in the
FAR`S.>>
Hi ,
it sounds as though the test was pretty thorough and I am glad I shall not
have to take it.
However, is it really a useful test if you are allowed to look up the
answers? In the cockpit you have to KNOW the answer, now, if say you have
to divert and the field you need is in controlled airspace of some sort.
It seems on the face of it further easement of exam standards which started
with the introduction of multi choice answers which gave the examinee a one
in three chance of being correct even if they had no idea at all.
What do others think?
Cheers
Pat
--
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 13 Msgs - 08/19/06 |
>From Bob _Erb-bserbjr(at)aol.com_ (mailto:Erb-bserbjr(at)aol.com)
Subject- Sport pilot test
I have built and am flying a Firestar II with a Rotax 503. I have been
preparing for the Sport pilot exam and feel comfortable with all the maneuvers
except the forward slip to a landing.
Is it possible to perform this maneuver the correct way in a Firestar? Every
time I try it, the plane turns in the direction of the aileron input, the
nose wants to come up, not enough down to push the nose down and the plane
makes a funny noise like the ailerons are fluttering but they are not. There does
not seem to be enough rudder authority to straighten the flight path. Any
ideas as to what I am doing wrong or should I tell the examiner the plane is
not designed to do forward slips. I have recently had 15 hours of flight
training in a Champ in preparation for the exam and I have no problems Forward
slipping that plane. Thanks for the help-Bob
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Lanny Fetterman <donaho(at)csrlink.net> |
| Subject: | 42 Practical test standards |
Pat and all, I was tested on 42 standards during the oral segment of the
test. Airspace was only one standard that I was required to know and
understand. I was told that I must score 100% on the oral part of the test,
that one wrong answer would fail me. ( I don`t know if that is an FAA rule
or a rule that my examiner developed on his own, but that was the gun I was
under.) While I felt I knew most of the answers, I was not going to risk a
failure by giving a wrong answer. So I referred to the FARS. better safe
than sorry!
I studied more for this test then any test in my entire life, including my
college days. The Federal Aviation Regulations/ Aeronautical Information
Manual has 1004 pages of information in it. How can any human being be
expected to commit that much information to memory? "Easement of the exam
standards" I don`t know because this is the only FAA rating test I have
ever taken. Flying is a hobby for me, not a vocation. On that premise, I
feel this test was difficult enough, and I learned plenty in the process.
Did I learn everything contained in the FARS, hardly.
Pat, when you have time, would you please post a brief review of the test
you took. that you are comparing to the S.P. test, I would be interested in
the differences.
P.S. I love my FSII, however I took the flight test in a Skyboy. What an
aircraft that is! There might be something good behind the doors opened by
getting the SP rating. Lanny Fetterman FSII N598LF
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: S.P. Practical Test |
Patt, I believe what the FAA is trying to address with the SP practical test
is the level of ignorance and misinformation common in the ultralight
community. From what I gather it is no more difficult than the test I took
for my PPL. In the example you give, the solution is not to be fumbling
about in the cockpit trying to look up FAR's, it is to plan your flight
before hand, so you know the airspace into which you venture.
On 8/20/06, pat ladd wrote:
>
>
> As it is an open book test I spent a lot of time finding the answers in
> the
> FAR`S.>>
>
> Hi ,
> it sounds as though the test was pretty thorough and I am glad I shall not
> have to take it.
>
> However, is it really a useful test if you are allowed to look up the
> answers? In the cockpit you have to KNOW the answer, now, if say you have
> to divert and the field you need is in controlled airspace of some sort.
>
> It seems on the face of it further easement of exam standards which
> started
> with the introduction of multi choice answers which gave the examinee a
> one
> in three chance of being correct even if they had no idea at all.
>
> What do others think?
>
> Cheers
>
> Pat
>
>
> --
>
>
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
Rick, although there are obvious similarities between makes, I have to
respectfully
disagree on some points. #1 are the myriad pushers out there that
went
for a
single boom tail.
BB
Bob B/Gang:
Bill Ferguson, designer of the Ferguson aircraft, showed up at Sun and
Fun 1991, with an airplane he called the Ferguson or Fergy.
Looked a lot like the mkIII kit he purchased from Homer Kolb with the
exception of wings and changes to the main fuselage cage. From the
tip of the tailboom to the tip of the rudder, the Fergy looked exactly
like the mkIII Homer Kolb had on display at S&F 2001. Ferguson had
not bothered to change the tail boom and tail section. Rather than
call this a Ferguson modified Kolb mkIII, Ferguson took credit for the
entire airplane. This troubled Homer Kolb tremendously. He and the
old Kolb crew had spent many hours and days designing a folding tail
section that is still being produced today by TNK.
Yes, I agree, a lot of airplanes look alike. But in this case, it
went much further than resembling a mkIII.
In my own opinion, the Fergy is not near the aircraft the mkIII is. I
base this on my own personal observations of many of Ferguson's
airplanes. However, my most convincing observation is the flight
history, or should I say the crash history of a close friend's two
Fergys. In both crashes, my friend was injured. In the second crash,
which occurred more than a year ago, my friend is still recuperating
from a near death crash which broke many bones in his body and the
body of the passenger.
First thing I look at in any airplane I plane to fly is crash
worthiness. The environment we fly is mighty unfriendly at times, and
no one is immune to gravity. I have survived several serious crashes
in Homer Kolb's airplanes. I have survived each of them with no
injury. Guess that's one of the reasons I feel more comfortable in my
mkIII than any of the other designs out there.
john h
mkIII
PS: Returned from Spring City, PA, last night. Had a great visit
with Homer and Clara. Also was treated to the flyin of local Kolbs
which has already been discussed on this List. It was my pleasure to
be able to visit with these great guys.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "The BaronVonEvil" <grageda(at)innw.net> |
Hi Bob,
The plane nearest a Kolb mk III with a nose wheel might be a Rans S-12 Airiale.
It is a capable aircraft and is also well supported by the folks at Rans. The S-12
also features a chrome moly steel cage in its structure.
I have flown one here locally and it seems to be well behaved. Not having flown
a Kolb Mk.III, I cannot offer a comparison.
Good Luck with your inquiries...
Best Regards
Carlos Grageda
Firestar II
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| It is a capable aircraft and is also well supported by the folks at
Rans. The S-12 also features a chrome moly steel cage in its
structure.
|
| Best Regards
| Carlos Grageda
| Firestar II
Carlos:
Best check out the Rans S-12 fuselage. I think you will find their
4130 fuselage is actually a 4130 tube shallow tub. Look closely and
you will see that all upright tubes are aluminum. Most of the
accident photos I have seen involving RANS S-12's results in this part
of the fuselage failing down and forward on top of the pilot and
passenger.
Having never flown an S-12, can not comment on its flying
characteristics.
However, I have heard some of the earlier Rans S12's had a problem
with empennage stability.
john h
mkIII
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Larry Rice <rice(at)iapdatacom.net> |
As I understand it, if you put on both the spark plug washer and the
ring for the CHT, there will be exposed threads at the bottom of the
tapped hole for the plug. If anyone ever puts in a plug without both,
the threads on the plug will hit the now carboned up threads in the
tapped hole. You can end up stripping out the tapped hole in the head,
or dump loose carbon chunks into the cylinder, neither of which is a
good thing. In addition, you reduce the heat lost to the head by the
plug, as there is less surface area in contact with the head, giving you
a hotter running plug with the strong possibility of detonation. Again,
not a good thing.
Larry the MicroMong guy
--
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| From: | "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
There is a good reason that Kolb's don't have a nose wheel: they don't need one.
I know, I checked. Here are a couple pictures I made this afternoon, went out
to the hangar and pulled the MKIII nosewheel assembly off the wall and took
a few pictures to convince the unbelievers.
I attached it to the underside of the nosebowl, and I used the same screws that
went through into the steel subframe and normally attach the nosebowl. Pitot
& static air stuck out the front, with extensions coming up through the nosebowl
to attach the lines to. Didn't steer, didn't figure it needed to, just wanted
it to track straight ahead.
I made this when I first built the MKIII, and mostly it was because I was using
a 532 that I was unsure of, out of a 750' airstrip. So when I got to the top
of the hill, I locked the brakes, began to advance the throttle, and gave it a
little forward stick. It obediently rocked up on the nosewheel, I went to full
throttle and let'er howl for about 25 seconds. Figured if she was gonna' blow,
give it a good chance to do it on the ground and not over the creek. Then release
the brakes, ease back on the stick, and I was off, having departed in a
tricycle gear MKIII.
After the engine got about twenty hours on it, I decided the engine was trustworthy
(or at least to the extent that a 532 is ever trustworthy) & took the nosegear
off.
I did miss the wise cracks though. "Is it a nose dragger or a tail dragger?" "I
dunno, I'm still trying to decide..., maybe a few more hours..."
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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| From: | "Robert Laird" <rlaird(at)cavediver.com> |
I owned and flew an S12XL for over two years. The empennage issue was
addressed and for older models they have a retrofit fix.
The cage structure is probably not as strong as a Kolb... the pilot is
a lot more vulnerable in the RANS.
The S12XL flies wonderfully. If you fly it solo, you can get away
with a 503, but for 2-up, you'll need at least a 582, and a 912 would
be much, much better.
Compared to a Kolb MkIII, the overall mass of the S12XL feels heavier,
but the flight controls are about the same. The S12XL cockpit/seat
was a bit more comfortable than the Kolb I have, so I'm trying to
figure out how to improve that element.
I now own a MkIIIc with a 912S. If I had to have a tricycle gear
aircraft, it would definitely be the S12XL. But I have my tailwheel
endorsement and the Kolb, in my opinion, is a better aircraft, by just
a bit.
-- Robert
On 8/20/06, John Hauck wrote:
>
>
> | It is a capable aircraft and is also well supported by the folks at
> Rans. The S-12 also features a chrome moly steel cage in its
> structure.
> |
> | Best Regards
> | Carlos Grageda
> | Firestar II
>
> Carlos:
>
> Best check out the Rans S-12 fuselage. I think you will find their
> 4130 fuselage is actually a 4130 tube shallow tub. Look closely and
> you will see that all upright tubes are aluminum. Most of the
> accident photos I have seen involving RANS S-12's results in this part
> of the fuselage failing down and forward on top of the pilot and
> passenger.
>
> Having never flown an S-12, can not comment on its flying
> characteristics.
>
> However, I have heard some of the earlier Rans S12's had a problem
> with empennage stability.
>
> john h
> mkIII
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "David Key" <dhkey(at)msn.com> |
The Fergy I saw looked more like a Mark II than a Mark III. I guess the
Fergy "inventor" didn't make enough money to buy the Mark III or else there
would be a new Fergy model. Who knows maybe he's saving up for an Xtra so
there's still hope for a new Fergy design.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "BOB BROCKMAN" <packerbeagle(at)msn.com> |
David,
The thing that started this whole "question" thing of mine, relates to an
article in the August 2006 issue of Ultralight Flying. The article, which is
a full page, talks about the Fergy FX-4-2 a 2 seat LSA
candidate.
I've had several people answer my question and a couple that made me wish, I
had closed my mouth.
Thanks,
bob
>From: "David Key" <dhkey(at)msn.com>
>Reply-To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
>To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: a question
>Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 19:18:13 -0500
>
>
>The Fergy I saw looked more like a Mark II than a Mark III. I guess the
>Fergy "inventor" didn't make enough money to buy the Mark III or else there
>would be a new Fergy model. Who knows maybe he's saving up for an Xtra so
>there's still hope for a new Fergy design.
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "David Key" <dhkey(at)msn.com> |
Don't take it personally, no one means anything and appreciate the
frankness. If anyone is keeping score they'll know I've ask my share of
questions everyone else knew the answer to.
Hey, I'd consider a Fergy if the price was dirt cheap. I think the used
market for knock offs is very very weak so expect a huge depreciation if you
buy one of these and factor it in from the get go. I've never heard someone
say I've just got to have a Fergy because it looks just like a Mark II, an
old discontinued Kolb design. ;-)
Wait there are two Fergies Barnstormers now, they want 18k for them!!! Ok if
they get 18k for those, I'm all wrong and I don't know what the hell I'm
talking about. One guy has a 503 and he's asking 17.5!!! GET REAL, it's
worth 7k. One thing for sure, if I was selling a Kolb now I'd put it in both
the Kolb and Fergy categories.
As for the nose wheel thing, I assume you haven't flown the Kolb
tailwheel-fly it first, you'll love it and you'll get to be a cool tailwheel
pilot.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Ed Chmielewski" <edchmiel(at)mindspring.com> |
Hi Richard,
Why exactly should we offer up knowledge of cheap knock-offs?
Last I looked, this is the KOLB list.
As for 'crusty socks', now I know why my mouse acts funny.
Thanks!!
Ed in JXN
MkII/503 (Real)
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Girard
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: a question
Oh please, "don't ask that question"? If this forum isn't for the
dissemination of knowledge about Kolb aircraft or copies of it, what is
its use? I admit I sometimes wonder if it's actually for the rantings of
pre adolescent boys who haven't taken up masterbation yet, but that's
just my take. Bob, ask away, you'll soon learn who has knowledge to
share and who has crusty socks.
On 8/20/06, BOB BROCKMAN wrote:
I was not aware that there were certain questions that coludn't be
asked. I
saw the article in the August 2006 issue of Ultralight Flying and
wanted to
know how the two aicraft compare. The other people may have ripped
of Kolb.
I don't know. Thats not the question.
I have read the information on this group for month's. Its good for
the most
part but, when one person gets bent out of shape over a question....
You are entitled to you opinion.
bob
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell(at)fmtcblue.com> |
Could the answer be : because it is polite and doesn't cost a thing to
be nice. The question was asked in innocence and really did not deserve
a violent response. Guidance would have been much more productive.
Just a thought!
Larry, Oregon
----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Chmielewski
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 10:22 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: a question
Hi Richard,
Why exactly should we offer up knowledge of cheap knock-offs?
Last I looked, this is the KOLB list.
As for 'crusty socks', now I know why my mouse acts funny.
Thanks!!
Ed in JXN
MkII/503 (Real)
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Girard
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: a question
Oh please, "don't ask that question"? If this forum isn't for the
dissemination of knowledge about Kolb aircraft or copies of it, what is
its use? I admit I sometimes wonder if it's actually for the rantings of
pre adolescent boys who haven't taken up masterbation yet, but that's
just my take. Bob, ask away, you'll soon learn who has knowledge to
share and who has crusty socks.
On 8/20/06, BOB BROCKMAN wrote:
I was not aware that there were certain questions that coludn't be
asked. I
saw the article in the August 2006 issue of Ultralight Flying and
wanted to
know how the two aicraft compare. The other people may have ripped
of Kolb.
I don't know. Thats not the question.
I have read the information on this group for month's. Its good
for the most
part but, when one person gets bent out of shape over a
question....
You are entitled to you opinion.
bob
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | APilot(at)webtv.net |
Some years back, I saw a number of Fergusons at Cartersville airport in
Georgia. I went to a EAA or ultralight meeting (can't remember which)
there were some negative comments about the Kolbs and sort of a jealous
attitude toward the Ferguson. I asked a couple of questions and got put
down. Anyway, I eventually chose the Kolb Classic Mk III, it flies very
nice and I am quite proud of it. Is it better than some other
airplanes? To me it is one of the very best for enjoying the beauty of
flight and it seems very forgiving. Mine is not very fast, but it sure
is pleasant. Vic in Sacramento
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Ed Chmielewski" <edchmiel(at)mindspring.com> |
Hi Larry,
Sorry if my response was percieved as 'violent'. (WTF??) Was
meant as a direct answer. I don't see the need to inform on poser
aircraft of which I have no knowledge. If that's too 'violent', so be
it. I guess feel-good PC skills aren't my specialty - thank GOD!
Must be the crusty mouse...
Ed in JXN
HTG MkII/503
----- Original Message -----
From: Larry Cottrell
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 12:42 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: a question
Could the answer be : because it is polite and doesn't cost a thing to
be nice. The question was asked in innocence and really did not deserve
a violent response. Guidance would have been much more productive.
Just a thought!
Larry, Oregon
----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Chmielewski
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 10:22 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: a question
Hi Richard,
Why exactly should we offer up knowledge of cheap
knock-offs? Last I looked, this is the KOLB list.
As for 'crusty socks', now I know why my mouse acts funny.
Thanks!!
Ed in JXN
MkII/503 (Real)
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Girard
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: a question
Oh please, "don't ask that question"? If this forum isn't for the
dissemination of knowledge about Kolb aircraft or copies of it, what is
its use? I admit I sometimes wonder if it's actually for the rantings of
pre adolescent boys who haven't taken up masterbation yet, but that's
just my take. Bob, ask away, you'll soon learn who has knowledge to
share and who has crusty socks.
On 8/20/06, BOB BROCKMAN wrote:
I was not aware that there were certain questions that coludn't
be asked. I
saw the article in the August 2006 issue of Ultralight Flying
and wanted to
know how the two aicraft compare. The other people may have
ripped of Kolb.
I don't know. Thats not the question.
I have read the information on this group for month's. Its good
for the most
part but, when one person gets bent out of shape over a
question....
You are entitled to you opinion.
bob
s.com/Navigator?Kolb-List
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "noel anderson" <nandrand(at)xtra.co.nz> |
Hi Team. I'm with you Larry. A smile and a kind word don't cost much!!!
Happy Landings, Noel
----- Original Message -----
From: Larry Cottrell
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: a question
Could the answer be : because it is polite and doesn't cost a thing to
be nice. The question was asked in innocence and really did not deserve
a violent response. Guidance would have been much more productive.
Just a thought!
Larry, Oregon
----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Chmielewski
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 10:22 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: a question
Hi Richard,
Why exactly should we offer up knowledge of cheap
knock-offs? Last I looked, this is the KOLB list.
As for 'crusty socks', now I know why my mouse acts funny.
Thanks!!
Ed in JXN
MkII/503 (Real)
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Girard
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: a question
Oh please, "don't ask that question"? If this forum isn't for the
dissemination of knowledge about Kolb aircraft or copies of it, what is
its use? I admit I sometimes wonder if it's actually for the rantings of
pre adolescent boys who haven't taken up masterbation yet, but that's
just my take. Bob, ask away, you'll soon learn who has knowledge to
share and who has crusty socks.
On 8/20/06, BOB BROCKMAN wrote:
I was not aware that there were certain questions that coludn't
be asked. I
saw the article in the August 2006 issue of Ultralight Flying
and wanted to
know how the two aicraft compare. The other people may have
ripped of Kolb.
I don't know. Thats not the question.
I have read the information on this group for month's. Its good
for the most
part but, when one person gets bent out of shape over a
question....
You are entitled to you opinion.
bob
s.com/Navigator?Kolb-List
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18/08/2006
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| From: | "tc1917" <tc1917(at)hughes.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 28 Msgs - 08/20/06 |
I usually dont answer to such as what has been posted on the Ferguson. J.
Hawk was referring to my good buddy who has had two fergs and I gotta answer
this as honestly as I can. I have probably more knowledge of this plane
than most of you on the list (obviously). I am not going to defend the
stealing of ideas but lets face it, if people hadnt stollen ideas, enhanced
them, worked them out, we would only have one airplane available - the
wright aircraft. Now, Ferg took an idea (which was originated by mr kolb
and redesigned some of it, streamlined some of it and cheapened some of it.
What he came out with was a light, well constructed similar aircraft. (many
planes fold tails as the kolb). (many planes fold wings as the kolb). Now,
my problem with the plane is it is structually unsound. I mean, when it
crashes, it comes apart, litterly. The same thing happens to any plane that
is mainly constructed with alum. (crash a challenger once -- whoa,
toothpics). Now, this plane has gone through many changes and it does
resemble a kolb but not that much. It has a different airfoil, wing built
totally different; wing tips different; tail section IS different, folding
design change; wider flatter fuse; many different things. I cannot for by
any spread of the imagination say this looks like a kolb. It is a great
flyer *(how many of you have actually flown one?) I have. It doesnt need a
912 to push it. Now, as I said earlier, I am not defending this company but
they as you or any other person or company, has the right to build a plane.
You have the right to take the best of all and make it the best for you.
Look at most of the -- I will call them - plastic LSPs out there. Same
mold. Same fuse, wing, tail. who stole it from whom? Quit this petty
garbage of bad mouthing a plane expecially if you really dont have any
knowledge on it! Get out there an check it out. If you like a plane buy
it. It is your opinion that counts. You will always be welcome to fly next
to my great Kolb SlingShot. My opinion. Thanks. Ted Cowan, Alabama
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Discussing other planes on the Kolb list. |
My opinion,
I find nothing objectionable about discussing another companys
planes as long as the discussion is kept in some way related to, and
in comparison with Kolb planes.
I believe competition is a good. We all like to get the most bang for
our buck. I am of the opinion that Kolb has nothing to fear and much
to gain by being compared with other companies and their products.
A persons defensive attitude merely evidences his insecurity about
the actual merits of the Kolb Company and their products. I believe a
defensive attitude is a negative advertisement for Kolb.
I believe telling the truth about Kolb planes AND about Kolbs
competition is what the kolb list should be all about.
The more I learn about Ferguson the better I like my Kolb.
On Aug 20, 2006, at 2:13 AM, BOB BROCKMAN wrote:
> Being a new guy, my question is concerning an aircraft similar to a
> Kolb.
> Can anyone tell me about an airplane called the Ferguson FX -4-2?
> I would appreciate any comments regarding the aircraft.
>
> thanks,
>
> bob
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| From: | "pat ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: S.P. Practical Test |
"what does a flashing red light mean?" then you shouldn't be allowed to
go to the book. But if the question asks "How much time do you have to
report an accident?" then you should since in the "real world" you'd have
time . I haven't taken my practical test yet - plan to within
the next month >>
Hi ,
Point taken. Good luck with the test.
Cheers
Pat
--
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| From: | "pat ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: S.P. Practical Test |
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| From: | "pat ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: 42 Practical test standards |
Pat, when you have time, would you please post a brief review of the test
you took. that you are comparing to the S.P. test, I would be interested in
the differences.>>
Hi Lanny,
I was not `having a go`,or comparing your test with anything which we have
here and I respect you for undertaking such a task, I was referring to the
general dumbing down process we have here. I know that when I took exams
either at or just after leaving school (we are talking the forties here) it
was expected that the examinee produced an answer to a question from his
memory. Later this changed to questions to which the examinee could choose
from 3 or more supplied answers. With a one in three chance of being right
even if you had never studied the subject student passes increased.
Reflecting great credit on the teachers, who, surprise, surprise, had
pushed for the change.
Being able to look up the answers during an exam seemed on the face of it
just another step in the watering down process.
In the UK it is government policy that everyone should be able to go to
University. They built Universities and then had to fill them so they
lowered the standards. They deny this of course but that is what most people
believe. Consequently instead of Universities taking the educated cream of
the crop and educating them further, free, which I believe should be the
way, they now take many who do not have the ability or the application to
benefit from the opportunity and make them pay. Many leave before completion
of their courses and many take soft options like media studies, social
studies and the like and finish up with a degree as a social worker. Lord
help us. Engineers, chemists, science based courses are way down the list.
The tests here for an ultralight license are pretty much the same as for a
PPL. A flying test, meteorology, air law, etc.Its all a long time ago and
like the car drivers test which I took at 18, I would not like to have to do
it again.. A radio license is an option and you are illegal if you operate
one (even a hand held) without having passed the test
Cheers
Pat.
--
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| From: | "pat ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 13 Msgs - 08/19/06 |
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| From: | "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier(at)cableone.net> |
| Subject: | Emailing: HPIM0907, HPIM0908, HPIM0909, HPIM0910, HPIM0912 |
Guys,
Here are some pics of my little invention - "The Spider." Best
control lock I've seen yet. When in place and tightened, it feels like
the control stick is welded in place. The MV guys liked it and some
copied it. Someone modified the design but the modification didn't work
as well as the original (heh, heh, heh - sorry, I couldn't resist.) I
works a lot better than a seat belt and just takes a minute more to
install. If you make one, a key point is to cut a groove in the PVC at
each place the rings go, otherwise the rings will tend to flop over. If
you make both the fore and aft straps adjustable, then you can set the
elevator where you want it, up or down. Mine isn't adjustable so the
elevator is locked in neutral. One of these days I'll change forward
strap to an adjustable one.
AzDave
Aw what the hell, go ahead an archive.
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| From: | "Robert Laird" <rlaird(at)cavediver.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Emailing: HPIM0907, HPIM0908, HPIM0909, HPIM0910, HPIM0912 |
Dave --
You should use standard stainless steel plumbers straps and then you
could use this D-Ring Bracket:
http://scubagear.stores.yahoo.net/004136.html
With the D-Ring Bracket, you not only will not "capture" the d-ring
(i.e., it will move freely), but you won't risk hurting the PVC.
I use these in diving all the time.
-- Robert
On 8/21/06, Dave & Eve Pelletier wrote:
>
>
> Guys,
>
> Here are some pics of my little invention - "The Spider." Best control
> lock I've seen yet. When in place and tightened, it feels like the control
> stick is welded in place. The MV guys liked it and some copied it. Someone
> modified the design but the modification didn't work as well as the original
> (heh, heh, heh - sorry, I couldn't resist.) I works a lot better than a
> seat belt and just takes a minute more to install. If you make one, a key
> point is to cut a groove in the PVC at each place the rings go, otherwise
> the rings will tend to flop over. If you make both the fore and aft straps
> adjustable, then you can set the elevator where you want it, up or down.
> Mine isn't adjustable so the elevator is locked in neutral. One of these
> days I'll change forward strap to an adjustable one.
>
> AzDave
>
> Aw what the hell, go ahead an archive.
>
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| Subject: | Re: Emailing: HPIM0907, HPIM0908, HPIM0909, HPIM0910, HPIM0912 |
| From: | "R. Hankins" <rphanks(at)grantspass.com> |
Great idea. Simple and easy to pack into a small space. I'm going to make one
and keep it stowed in my KXP. Thanks for the info.
--------
Roger in Oregon
1992 KXP 503
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| From: | "David Key" <dhkey(at)msn.com> |
Almost done the DAR can't see it till Sept 8th!! I wanted to do the first
flight labor day. The pic was huge (1.6meg), I shrunk it down and saved it
as a .GIF (300k) hope that worked.
John W. came by and took a look a while ago. Everything was going smoothly
for the first 5 minutes, then he ask me to give him a note pad and leave the
hangar while he stayed and inspected my plane. 90 minutes later he had 65
things to do better!!! I'm done with his list, greatfull for it, and ready
to fly.
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| From: | APilot(at)webtv.net |
| Subject: | Re: Almost Done!! |
That is a pretty airplane...congrats
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| From: | "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Almost Done!! |
David that is one beautiful plane. Bravo.
On 8/21/06, David Key wrote:
>
> Almost done the DAR can't see it till Sept 8th!! I wanted to do the first
> flight labor day. The pic was huge (1.6meg), I shrunk it down and saved it
> as a .GIF (300k) hope that worked.
>
> John W. came by and took a look a while ago. Everything was going smoothly
> for the first 5 minutes, then he ask me to give him a note pad and leave
> the
> hangar while he stayed and inspected my plane. 90 minutes later he had 65
> things to do better!!! I'm done with his list, greatfull for it, and ready
> to fly.
>
>
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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| From: | APilot(at)webtv.net |
Re: DAR's list of things to do. What sort of things were mentioned?
It might be helpful for all of us Kolb pilots.
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| Subject: | Re: Emailing: HPIM0907, HPIM0908, HPIM0909, HPIM0910, HPIM0912 |
| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
Dave, that is one heck of a sturdy stick holder. I gotta ask, however, how hard
is the adjustments to make while in flight? That is a poor mans auto-pilot, is
it not?
Ha, Ha!
Why a man would have to be mighty skinny to fit between some of them belts and
adjusting in flight would be scary, but some of you guys can "fly and chew gum"
at the same time. I keep biting my lip!
Ralph gotcha right here in Ohio!
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| Subject: | Re: Almost Done!! |
| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
David, My Firestar will be parked outside you house for the next several months.
Do you think you can make it look that purty?
There are some fantastic flying machines on this site and yours is at the top.
I too want to see better quality photo's and some details of the cabin.
Ohio Ralph
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| Subject: | Re: Discussing other planes on the Kolb list. |
| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
Eugene,
"The more I learn about Ferguson the better I like my Kolb. "
I believe one of the posters on this site says the same thing about people and
his dog! Ha,Ha.
Man, seriously, some of these people need to sit down with their shrink and discuss
what is really bothering them. I think they could walk away a lot less troubled
and a little nicer to their fellow man. I have discovered in my few short
61 years of life, we need all the friends and people on our side we can get
in this world. Its shrinking day by day! My old enemy's are coming back around.
And some of them have become my friends. I'm not certain if I changed since
then or they have.
Ralph, hiding somewhere in Ohio.
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | 912ULS Gearbox Checkup |
Hi Gang:
Flew down to South Mississippi Light Aircraft this morning to have the
gearbox inspected.
Passed with flying colors. No wear after more than 1,200.0 hours. In
fact, we could not shim it up any tighter than it was approximately
450 hours ago when I had the slip clutch installed. Bearings and
gears looked new.
Flew 360 sm in 3.9 hours. Not bad for a 15 year old fat ultralight.
Take care,
john h
mkIII
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| From: | "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | One of them dreaded questions |
I'm currently in California getting my LSA repairman maintenance rating.
This afternoon we were doing some fabric work and the instructor pulled out
a wing from a crashed Ultrastar. My first reaction when looking at the wing
root fittings was shock. Compared to my Mk III and Firestar it seemed the
swivel and the spar follow through fitting had been installed backward.
Donnie at TNK couldn't answer my question (you don't have TNK on speed
dial?) and we both agreed if anyone could it would be John H. After some
reflection I think everything might be per Homer, but I'm still interested
in learning the answer.
Thanks guys,
Rick
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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| From: | "David Lehman" <david(at)davidlehman.net> |
| Subject: | Re: One of them dreaded questions |
Rick...
I'm not sure this is what you're asking about, but the Ultrastar wing pivot
s
on the front fitting, not the rear fitting like all the other Kolbs do...
David
On 8/22/06, Richard Girard wrote:
>
> I'm currently in California getting my LSA repairman maintenance rating.
> This afternoon we were doing some fabric work and the instructor pulled o
ut
> a wing from a crashed Ultrastar. My first reaction when looking at the wi
ng
> root fittings was shock. Compared to my Mk III and Firestar it seemed the
> swivel and the spar follow through fitting had been installed backward.
> Donnie at TNK couldn't answer my question (you don't have TNK on speed
> dial?) and we both agreed if anyone could it would be John H. After some
> reflection I think everything might be per Homer, but I'm still intereste
d
> in learning the answer.
>
> Thanks guys,
> Rick
>
> --
> Rick Girard
> "Ya'll drop on in"
> takes on a whole new meaning
> when you live at the airport.
>
>
--
"Attitude is everything ~ pick a good one"...
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| From: | "David Lehman" <david(at)davidlehman.net> |
| Subject: | Re: One of them dreaded questions |
Rick...
I forgot, there's some pictures here of the folded Ultrastar wing...
*www.frugalbee.com/.../body_kolb_ultrastar.html*<http://www.frugalbee.com/.
../body_kolb_ultrastar.html>
David
On 8/22/06, Richard Girard wrote:
>
> I'm currently in California getting my LSA repairman maintenance rating.
> This afternoon we were doing some fabric work and the instructor pulled o
ut
> a wing from a crashed Ultrastar. My first reaction when looking at the wi
ng
> root fittings was shock. Compared to my Mk III and Firestar it seemed the
> swivel and the spar follow through fitting had been installed backward.
> Donnie at TNK couldn't answer my question (you don't have TNK on speed
> dial?) and we both agreed if anyone could it would be John H. After some
> reflection I think everything might be per Homer, but I'm still intereste
d
> in learning the answer.
>
> Thanks guys,
> Rick
>
> --
> Rick Girard
> "Ya'll drop on in"
> takes on a whole new meaning
> when you live at the airport.
>
>
--
"Attitude is everything ~ pick a good one"...
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: One of them dreaded questions |
David, Like I said, I figured it was per Homer even though it looked so odd
at first glance. Just trying to expand my knowledge base. The link doesn't
work, but thanks for responding.
On 8/22/06, David Lehman wrote:
>
> Rick...
>
> I forgot, there's some pictures here of the folded Ultrastar wing...
>
> *www.frugalbee.com/.../body_kolb_ultrastar.html*<http://www.frugalbee.com
/.../body_kolb_ultrastar.html>
>
> David
>
>
> On 8/22/06, Richard Girard wrote:
> >
> > I'm currently in California getting my LSA repairman maintenance rating
.
> > This afternoon we were doing some fabric work and the instructor pulled
out
> > a wing from a crashed Ultrastar. My first reaction when looking at the
wing
> > root fittings was shock. Compared to my Mk III and Firestar it seemed t
he
> > swivel and the spar follow through fitting had been installed backward.
> > Donnie at TNK couldn't answer my question (you don't have TNK on speed
> > dial?) and we both agreed if anyone could it would be John H. After som
e
> > reflection I think everything might be per Homer, but I'm still interes
ted
> > in learning the answer.
> >
> > Thanks guys,
> > Rick
> >
> > --
> > Rick Girard
> > "Ya'll drop on in"
> > takes on a whole new meaning
> > when you live at the airport.
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> "Attitude is everything ~ pick a good one"...
>
> *
>
===========
===========
===========
===========
===========
>
> *
>
>
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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| From: | Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Matt Dralle, List Admin. |
Matt,
Are you aware that some reply messages sent to this Kolb list are not
being posted to the list for some reason?
? ? ?
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Matt Dralle, List Admin. |
At 05:34 AM 8/23/2006 Wednesday, you wrote:
>
>Matt,
>
>Are you aware that some reply messages sent to this Kolb list are not
>being posted to the list for some reason?
>
>? ? ?
Can you forward me so examples off-list. I'm not finding any posts from your email
address "etzim62(at)earthlink.net" that haven't been posted.
Matt Dralle
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "George Myers" <gmyers(at)grandecom.net> |
| Subject: | Re: One of them dreaded questions |
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| From: | "George Myers" <gmyers(at)grandecom.net> |
| Subject: | Re: One of them dreaded questions |
Here'e the correct link
http://www.frugalbee.com/Kolb_Ultrastar/fold4686.JPG
>I forgot, there's some pictures here of the folded Ultrastar wing...
>www.frugalbee.com/.../body_kolb_ultrastar.html
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| From: | Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL <Dennis.Kirby(at)kirtland.af.mil> |
Dear Kolb Friends -
In the spirit of sharing one's misfortunes for the benefit of others, I
offer this story that happened to me earlier this summer. I experienced my
first ground loop!
Following a normal warmup and taxi to the runway, I was ready to take the
active and go. The wind was directly across the runway from the left, at
approx 10 knots (45-degree droop angle on the windsock at our airport). Not
unusual; I've done 12-to-15 knot crosswind takeoffs many times before in my
Kolb.
Three seconds after giving it full power, I glanced back at the windsock.
Horror! It was rigidly horizontal. In the next second, I felt the violent
gust hit my Mark-III, which instantly pivoted 90 degrees to the left as we
weathervaned into the wind. (Which I found out later was a 32-knot gust, as
recorded at our airports DigiWx system.)
The instantaneous result was, due to the sudden turn, the left wheel came up
and the right wingtip dragged on the ground - the classic ground loop.
Whee!
Back at the hangar, and following VERY close inspection, the only damage
that resulted was torn fabric on the aileron tip, at the aft/outboard
corner. Hinge line is straight, trailing edge spar is straight, every
member of the aileron structure is straight. No damage except for fabric.
Gotta love the robust design of these Kolbs!
I've since repaired the fabric and have flown my Mark-III - no problems. I
like to think I learned something worthwhile from the experience that's
worth passing on to you all. For this scenario, I should have waited 15 or
20 minutes before launching, as there were scattered rain clouds in the
area; one, particularly close to the airport. The aberrant gust that got me
was from one localized cell that was within 5 miles of the airport.
Although clear skies beckoned in the other direction, I should have let that
little rain cloud pass over the airport, rather than try to get out ahead of
it.
And so, Pat L and Ohio Ralph (recently), and all you other Kolbers with
similar past histories of battle damage (Muncho Lake comes to mind), it is
with honor that I join your esteemed ranks. But like Hauck once said: "You
can't break 'em if you don't fly 'em!"
Dennis Kirby
Mark-III, 912ul, "Magic Bike"
Cedar Crest, New Mexico
http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40">
Dear Kolb Friends
–
In the spirit of sharing
one’s
misfortunes for the benefit of others, I offer this story that happened
to me earlier
this summer. I experienced my first ground
loop!
Following a normal warmup
and taxi
to the runway, I was ready to take the active and go. The wind
was
directly across the runway from the left, at approx 10 knots (45-degree
droop
angle on the windsock at our airport). Not unusual; I’ve
done 12-to-15
knot crosswind takeoffs many times before in my
Kolb.
Three seconds after giving
it full
power, I glanced back at the windsock. Horror! It was
rigidly
horizontal. In the next second, I felt the violent gust hit my
Mark-III,
which instantly pivoted 90 degrees to the left as we weathervaned into
the wind.
(Which I found out later was a 32-knot gust, as recorded at our
airports DigiWx
system.)
The instantaneous result
was, due to
the sudden turn, the left wheel came up and the right wingtip dragged
on the
ground – the classic ground loop. Whee!
Back at the hangar, and
following VERY
close inspection, the only damage that resulted was torn fabric on the
aileron
tip, at the aft/outboard corner. Hinge line is straight, trailing
edge
spar is straight, every member of the aileron structure is
straight. No
damage except for fabric. Gotta love the robust design of these
Kolbs!
I’ve since repaired
the fabric
and have flown my Mark-III – no problems. I like to think I
learned
something worthwhile from the experience that’s worth passing on
to you
all. For this scenario, I should have waited 15 or 20 minutes
before
launching, as there were scattered rain clouds in the area; one,
particularly
close to the airport. The aberrant gust that got me was from one
localized cell that was within 5 miles of the airport. Although
clear
skies beckoned in the other direction, I should have let that little
rain cloud
pass over the airport, rather than try to get out ahead of
it.
And so, Pat L and Ohio
Ralph
(recently), and all you other Kolbers with similar past histories of
battle
damage (Muncho Lake comes to mind), it is
with honor
that I join your esteemed ranks. But like Hauck once said:
“You
can’t break ‘em if you don’t fly
‘em!”
Dennis
Kirby
Mark-III, 912ul,
“Magic Bike”
Cedar Crest, New
Mexico
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| From: | "Larry Bourne" <biglar(at)gogittum.com> |
Yah, but you broke yours the easy way. Good on you, Dennis, it could
have been a lot worse. Lar. Do not
Archive.
----- Original Message -----
From: Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 2:23 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Ground Loop
Dear Kolb Friends '
In the spirit of sharing one=92s misfortunes for the benefit of
others, I offer this story that happened to me earlier this summer. I
experienced my first ground loop!
Following a normal warmup and taxi to the runway, I was ready to take
the active and go. The wind was directly across the runway from the
left, at approx 10 knots (45-
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | robert bean <slyck(at)frontiernet.net> |
| Subject: | Re: One of them dreaded questions |
I'm at a loss for words.....
BB
On 23, Aug 2006, at 2:51 PM, George Myers wrote:
>
>
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| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
Yes Dennis, you are one of the most highly esteemed out there. I am glad very little
damage was done and you jumped back in the saddle again.
I do not like the "double edged" problem we have with these planes. If you add
enough weight to keep them down along the ground, they never get the hankerin
to get off the ground.
On mine, I am getting the IVO prop late this week, making a breather line like
"Plaincrazzy" made, need to make a new gap seal out of Lexan. Then tie the tail,
crank it up and see if anything comes off or vibrates loose. Also, I need to
make a new sissy bar system. The old one most assuradly saved me considerable
bucks and repair. I ain't leaven home again without one!
Probably two to three weeks before I get back up. Mornings and evenings are in
the 50's and 60's here in Ohio. Hate to miss that cool air.
I know thsi is a tad away from the Kolb info, but you did use the John H. name
and I felt we could all use a laugh. Look at picture below. And NO, IT AINT A
KOLB! Sorry about hurtin feelins.
Ohio Ralph, cantankerous as all get out here in Ohio!
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| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
Yes Dennis, you are one of the most highly esteemed out there. We need to have
some special badge or patch for those "hardy young men" in their flying machines!
I am glad very little damage was done and you jumped back in the saddle again.
I do not like the "double edged" problem we have with these planes. If you add
enough weight to keep them down along the ground, they never get the hankerin
to get off the ground.
On mine, I am getting the IVO prop late this week, making a breather line like
"Plaincrazzy" made, need to make a new gap seal out of Lexan. Then tie the tail,
crank it up and see if anything comes off or vibrates loose. Also, I need to
make a new sissy bar system. The old one most assuradly saved me considerable
bucks and repair. I ain't leaven home again without one!
Probably two to three weeks before I get back up. Mornings and evenings are in
the 50's and 60's here in Ohio. Hate to miss that cool air.
I know this is a tad away from the Kolb info, but you did use the John H. name
and I felt we could all use a laugh. Look at picture below. And NO, IT AINT A
KOLB! Sorry about hurtin feelins.
Ohio Ralph, cantankerous as all get out here in Ohio!
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| From: | "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> |
Yes Dennis, you are one of the most highly esteemed out there. We need to have
some special badge or patch for those "hardy young men" in their flying machines!
I am glad very little damage was done and you jumped back in the saddle again.
I do not like the "double edged" problem we have with these planes. If you add
enough weight to keep them down along the ground, they never get the hankerin
to get off the ground.
On mine, I am getting the IVO prop late this week, making a breather line like
"Plaincrazzy" made, need to make a new gap seal out of Lexan. Then tie the tail,
crank it up and see if anything comes off or vibrates loose. Also, I need to
make a new sissy bar system. The old one most assuradly saved me considerable
bucks and repair. I ain't leaven home again without one!
Probably two to three weeks before I get back up. Mornings and evenings are in
the 50's and 60's here in Ohio. Hate to miss that cool air.
I know this is a tad away from the Kolb info, but you did use the John H. name
and I felt we could all use a laugh. Look at picture below. And NO, IT AINT A
KOLB! Sorry about hurtin feelins.
Ohio Ralph, cantankerous as all get out here in Ohio!
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=56812#56812
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| I know thsi is a tad away from the Kolb info, but you did use the
John H. name and I felt we could all use a laugh. |
| Ohio Ralph, cantankerous as all get out here in Ohio!
Ralph/Gang:
Gosh! I didn't know John Deere made an airplane that looks like a
Titan.
john h
mkIII (Strictly Kolb, with a tad of Hauck thrown in.)
PS: Just now got home, after dark, from dragging the airstrip for
mines. Darn cows have been working overtime. I hit one when I landed
yesterday on return from Ronnie Smith's. Thought I had not done much
damage, until I got out, and the bottom of the fuselage is covered
with cow crap...................
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: ebay firestar? |
| Does anyone recognize this bird? It looks like the Fuse cage has
been
| hacked up, doesn't look too safe..
|
| Mike
Mike/Gang:
That's a Twinstar with an add on wind screen.
Not hacked up.. Wasn't much up front to begin with.
john h
mkIIII
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| From: | "ron wehba" <rwehba(at)cebridge.net> |
| Subject: | anyone know anything about this one? |
http://cgi.ebay.com/Home-Built-Ultralight-Plans-build-your-airplane-3000_
W0QQitemZ200019729570QQihZ010QQcategoryZ26441QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmd
ZViewItem
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| From: | "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: anyone know anything about this one? |
Well, it looks like a ripoff of a couple of popular designs, the Flightstar,
for one. Ask yourself if you can get it built and inspected by Jan 31, 2008
if you want to fly it as an LSA. After that, it'll be a very expensive lawn
ornament, unless you want to license it as amateur built experimental.
On 8/23/06, ron wehba wrote:
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Home-Built-Ultralight-Plans-build-your-airplane-3000_W0QQitemZ200019729570QQihZ010QQcategoryZ26441QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
> *
>
>
> *
>
>
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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| From: | "Dennis Souder" <flykolb(at)pa.net> |
| Subject: | anyone know anything about this one? |
_____
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Girard
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: anyone know anything about this one?
Well, it looks like a ripoff of a couple of popular designs, the Flightstar,
for one. Ask yourself if you can get it built and inspected by Jan 31, 2008
if you want to fly it as an LSA. After that, it'll be a very expensive lawn
ornament, unless you want to license it as amateur built experimental.
On 8/23/06, ron wehba wrote:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Home-Built-Ultralight-Plans-build-your-airplane-3000_W0Q
QitemZ200019729570QQihZ010QQcategoryZ26441QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewI
tem
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List
http://forums.matronics.com
http://wiki.matronics.com
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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| From: | "Steven Green" <Kolbdriver(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Kolb Serial Numbers |
Does anyone know the significance of the number stamped on the rear of
the root tube on the Mark 3. Are they serial numbers? Are the numbers
in series? Did they start at 1? What was the last one sold from Old
Kolb in Pennsylvania?
Just curious
Steven Green
Mark III # 1151
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| From: | Richard Pike <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
| Subject: | Re: Kolb Serial Numbers |
Mine was very close to being the last one, if not the last to come from
Phoenixville, Pa. I got the three airframe kits from Pa, but got the
enclosure and the motor mounts from New Kolb in Ky, so I was in the
transition. When I heard about the sale and transition, my first
reaction was to wonder how things were going to work out, but New Kolb
treated me good.
I bought it on March 14, 1995, all three kits, including the Sun-N'-Fun
promotion of all the ribs pre-built for the bargain price of $6,765.
(Airframe only, I already had an engine and instruments)
The number on the end of the root tube is M3-215.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Steven Green wrote:
>
> Does anyone know the significance of the number stamped on the rear of
> the root tube on the Mark 3. Are they serial numbers? Are the
> numbers in series? Did they start at 1? What was the last one sold
> from Old Kolb in Pennsylvania?
>
> Just curious
>
> Steven Green
> Mark III # 1151
> *
>
>
> *
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| From: | Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Re: 912ULS Gearbox Checkup |
On Aug 22, 2006, at 7:35 PM, John Hauck wrote:
> Flew 360 sm in 3.9 hours. Not bad for a 15 year old fat ultralight.
Wow!
That is an average of 92.3 mph.
Twenty mph tail wind both ways?
Or did you mean 4.9 hours?
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| From: | "David Key" <dhkey(at)msn.com> |
| Subject: | Re: ebay firestar? |
John,
I have put fully synthetic oil in my 912. I want to do xc's and plan on
using more 100LL than I'd planned. Next time I change my oil can I just fill
the tank up with semi-synthetic or do I need to empty all the fully
synthetic out of the radiator and hoses and tank then refill everything with
semi?
Thanks,
David
>From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
>Reply-To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
>To:
>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: ebay firestar?
>Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 20:12:48 -0500
>
>
>| Does anyone recognize this bird? It looks like the Fuse cage has
>been
>| hacked up, doesn't look too safe..
> |
>| Mike
>
>Mike/Gang:
>
>That's a Twinstar with an add on wind screen.
>
>Not hacked up.. Wasn't much up front to begin with.
>
>john h
>mkIIII
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 912ULS Gearbox Checkup |
| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
Not hard to do cruising 85 to 90 mph!
Actually, I did have a little help from the wind going and coming.
--------
John Hauck
MKIII/912ULS
hauck's holler, alabama
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=56883#56883
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| From: | "David Key" <dhkey(at)msn.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Kolb Serial Numbers |
I wanted to use exhaust header wrap near the electricial components on the
engine. As I understand the Rotax 921 EGT runs normally at 1472, maxing out
at 1652. As I check the diffrent exhaust wraps it seems they only goes to
continuous of 1000.
For example:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/White-Fiberglass-Exhaust-Kart-Racing-Header-Wrap-15ft_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ107068QQihZ008QQitemZ180020610788QQrdZ1
Do I need to keep looking?
Thanks,
David
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
Next time I change my oil can I just fill
| the tank up with semi-synthetic or do I need to empty all the fully
| synthetic out of the radiator and hoses and tank then refill
everything with
| semi?
| Thanks,
| David
Hi David:
I don't think so.
I used to switch back and forth from full to semi-synthetic. Now that
I cross country more the locally fly, I run Valvoline Durablend
Semi-sythetic most all the time. Hot weather I run 20w50. Cold
weather 5 or 10w40. Based on the condition of my gearbox during
yesterday's inspection, I think my Durablend is doing a good job.
john h
mkIII
PS: I changed the subject to reflect the content of this post.
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| From: | DAquaNut(at)aol.com |
In a message dated 8/23/2006 4:26:28 P.M. Central Standard Time,
Dennis.Kirby(at)kirtland.af.mil writes:
And so, Pat L and Ohio Ralph (recently), and all you other Kolbers with
similar past histories of battle damage (Muncho Lake comes to mind), it i
s with
honor that I join your esteemed ranks. But like Hauck once said:
=9CYou can=99
t break =98em if you don=99t fly =98em!=9D
Dennis,
Sorry to hear of you misfortune. Glad it wasn't worse.
Ed Diebel Firefly # 62 Do Not Archieve
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| From: | "Larry Bourne" <biglar(at)gogittum.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Kolb Serial Numbers |
They went a little longer than that. I couldn't remember for sure, but I do
know I got my kit from TOK, so dug out my sales invoice. It's dated
10-14-96 for Serial # M3-274. I went out with a flashlight just now, and
the number on the end of the root tube is M1124.
I've found the cause of my problems with the redrive, and have been fighting
for 1 1/2 weeks with a local machine shop to build a spacer the way "I" want
it........not the way they think they want to make it. "If" I can get that
idiot to trim it to fit tomorrow, I could have Vamoose started again this
weekend........but I won't bet on it. I go back to the guy for try #4
tomorrow. Unfortunately, he's the only game in town, and I've already paid
him $110.00 for the thing......before I realized it wouldn't work.
Grumble. Lar.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb Serial Numbers
>
> Mine was very close to being the last one, if not the last to come from
> Phoenixville, Pa. I got the three airframe kits from Pa, but got the
> enclosure and the motor mounts from New Kolb in Ky, so I was in the
> transition. When I heard about the sale and transition, my first reaction
> was to wonder how things were going to work out, but New Kolb treated me
> good.
> I bought it on March 14, 1995, all three kits, including the Sun-N'-Fun
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | 912 Exhaust Wrap |
|
| Do I need to keep looking?
| Thanks,
| David
David:
I bought my exhaust header wrap from Summit. Have no idea what the
temperature rating was, but it worked for 5 years with no problems.
I think any automotive header wrap will work just fine. Four stroke
EGT's run very high.
john h
mkIII
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| From: | "pat ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "pat ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: 912 Exhaust Wrap |
I bought my exhaust header wrap from Summit. >>
Hi ,
what is this, and what does it do? I have never heard of it.
Chers
Pat
--
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| From: | "tc1917" <tc1917(at)hughes.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 33 Msgs - 08/23/06 |
the picture of the John Deere published on the web site link is one of our
members of the Southern Flyers Ultralight Asociation. His call sign is
"flying farmer". Ted Cowan, Alabama. He has had a challenger and a Kolb Mk
II. Hard to satisfy a farmer I guess. He has a Hearse engine on it and it
is very underpowered.
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| From: | " Chuck" <cstonex(at)msn.com> |
Has any one ever installed a 2SI 3 cylinder in a MKIII? I have been looking
at a MK III with a 503 which is great for solo but I know where I can get a
low time 2SI three cylinder cheap. Where would I get the mount? I think
there is a dealer in Southern Ill but I do not recall who it is or where
they are located.
Rev Chuck
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| Subject: | Re: 912 Exhaust Wrap |
| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
One of the Titan exhaust tubes comes very close to the ignition modules on the
912UL and 912ULS. The exhaust header tube wrap helps protect the modules from
the heat, especially on the ground.
--------
John Hauck
MKIII/912ULS
hauck's holler, alabama
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=56947#56947
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| From: | Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62(at)earthlink.net> |
On Aug 24, 2006, at 7:12 AM, pat ladd wrote:
>
>
Hey Pat,
Is that a question or a statement?
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 33 Msgs - 08/23/06 |
| the picture of the John Deere published on the web site link is one
of our
| members of the Southern Flyers Ultralight Asociation.
Ted C:
Is that Doyle L?
john h
mkIII
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| From: | Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 33 Msgs - 08/23/06 |
On Aug 24, 2006, at 7:38 AM, tc1917 wrote:
> He has a Hearse engine on it and it is very underpowered.
Do that mean it will take longer to get to the grave site?
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Rev Chuck
you are thinking of ZDE ....in flatrock illinois
Roger Zerkle
Roger Zerkle
E-mail Address(es):
zde(at)frtci.net
He supports the 2SI engines and has lots of parts.
If you need anything, I have several also..including an new/unused 0-time 690L
engine.
These engines have been installed on MK-III kolbs...( wake up Dennis)and a brother
right here on this list.
Tell Zerkle Honda Don sent ya!
--------
Don G
FireFly#098
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=57092#57092
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| From: | "Rev Chuck" <cstonex(at)msn.com> |
Yes Don I am talking about ZDE. Do you recall their website? Thanks I
forgot their name. what parts do you have? Is your 690L new or rebuilt? How
much? I would be looking for anyting that I need to make it work. Also is it
a good choice motor for Kolb MK III? I hear good things aboiut this motor
from those who has used them.
Rev Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don G" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 4:50 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: 2SI 690 L70
>
> Rev Chuck
>
> you are thinking of ZDE ....in flatrock illinois
>
> Roger Zerkle
>
> Roger Zerkle
> E-mail Address(es):
> zde(at)frtci.net
>
> He supports the 2SI engines and has lots of parts.
> If you need anything, I have several also..including an new/unused 0-time
> 690L engine.
>
> These engines have been installed on MK-III kolbs...( wake up Dennis)and a
> brother right here on this list.
>
> Tell Zerkle Honda Don sent ya!
>
> --------
> Don G
> FireFly#098
>
> http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=57092#57092
>
>
>
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