Kolb-Archive.digest.vol-gl

December 31, 2006 - January 23, 2007



      + March 28, 2002 - Removed Rotax 447
      @ August 8, 2000 - Added VGs to the wings
      % October 28, 1999 - Removed 15 inch chord ailerons
      * September 9, 1999 - First flight
      ^ Rotax 447/79 hours - Victor 1+/139 hours
      
      It makes one very thankful that we live in a country that lets people fly 
      under 103-7.  It still feels almost too good to be true.  What a toy!!!  
      Flew yesterday and among other things checked out a new hog barn operation, 
      my granddaughter's school, a new addition to a grain elevator, and a new gas 
      well.  Lazed along at 4,900 rpm at 45 mphi so that I would not wind burn my 
      face and burning a little over 1.6 gph.  Life does not get much better than 
      this.
      
      Wishing everyone fun and safe flying during the New Year.
      
      Jack B. Hart FF004
      Winchester, IN
      
      
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Date: Dec 31, 2006
From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net>
Subject: tires for US
What size tires does everybody use on their Ultrastars? My dilemma: The plane came with 6.00x6 aircraft tires on 6" wide wheels. Problem is, it doesn't fit in the trailer (it's 2" too wide). The wheels are part of the wheel / hydraulic brake package from Free Bird Innovations, which looks like a very nice package. According to the previous owner, he used the same tires that he previously had on 4" wide wheels. I then ordered a pair of 4" wide wheels from Free Bird. When I went to put the old tires on the new wheels, they look awfully wide for those wheels (not to mention in not too great condition), so I figure I oughta get narrower tires... but what size? The current tires are around 16" diameter; 400X6 tires from Aircraft Spruce are 13" diameter and I hate to lose prop ground clearance. Or should I just be looking at industrial tires? Also the current tires have tubes, but the new wheels have valve stems for tubeless tires... I always thought you never use tubeless tires on aircraft? -Dana -- -- C:\Planets\Earth\ is 99% full. Please delete unnecessary people. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "ron wehba" <rwehba(at)cebridge.net>
Subject: Re: tires for US
Date: Dec 31, 2006
my old one had wheelbarrow tires and rims on it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dana Hague" <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 2:13 PM Subject: Kolb-List: tires for US > > What size tires does everybody use on their Ultrastars? > > My dilemma: The plane came with 6.00x6 aircraft tires on 6" wide wheels. > Problem is, it doesn't fit in the trailer (it's 2" too wide). The wheels > are part of the wheel / hydraulic brake package from Free Bird > Innovations, which looks like a very nice package. According to the > previous owner, he used the same tires that he previously had on 4" wide > wheels. I then ordered a pair of 4" wide wheels from Free Bird. When I > went to put the old tires on the new wheels, they look awfully wide for > those wheels (not to mention in not too great condition), so I figure I > oughta get narrower tires... but what size? The current tires are around > 16" diameter; 400X6 tires from Aircraft Spruce are 13" diameter and I hate > to lose prop ground clearance. Or should I just be looking at industrial > tires? > > Also the current tires have tubes, but the new wheels have valve stems for > tubeless tires... I always thought you never use tubeless tires on > aircraft? > > -Dana > -- > -- > C:\Planets\Earth\ is 99% full. Please delete unnecessary people. > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Last flight of the year
From: "R. Hankins" <rphanks(at)grantspass.com>
Date: Jan 01, 2007
Hello all: The fog cleared just enough to get 1.7hrs in yesterday. The 34 degree air was smooth as silk. I put handwarmers in my gloves (like Arty does) and stayed comfortable. Here is the address to a google video of flying above some clouds over the practice area. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8856023453852918831 I've also attached a picture of my place with Grants Pass airport in the background. Flew a total of 80.8 hrs in '06. The 503 has 381.7 on it. Should I sell it as while still on the plane, or rebuild? Happy new year everyone. -------- Roger in Oregon 1992 KXP 503 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=84870#84870 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/roger_and_daynas_340.jpg ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Last flight of the year
From: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot1(at)comcast.net>
Date: Jan 01, 2007
Hi Roger and all, Great photo of your place and the video was excellent. I flew the Kolbra out to our annual "Bluenose Breakfast" at Horshoe Bend (F78). It was 30 degrees when I took off at Arlington and warmed to a balmy 40 when I landed back at KGKY. The attached photos were at today's fly-in. -------- John Williamson Arlington, TX Kolbra, 912ULS http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot1 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=84874#84874 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0548_164.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0539_103.jpg ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 01, 2007
Subject: Re: Last flight of the year
From: jam-n <jghunter(at)nol.net>
real nice! heck, rebuild it, cheaper than a new one... and u can always drop in a new crank and the block in good condtion can go first and second overs... :) cool video!! cool country. luck u regards ~barnstormer~ dont archive On 1/1/2007, "R. Hankins" wrote: > >Hello all: >The fog cleared just enough to get 1.7hrs in yesterday. The 34 degree air was smooth as silk. I put handwarmers in my gloves (like Arty does) and stayed comfortable. Here is the address to a google video of flying above some clouds over the practice area. > >http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8856023453852918831 > >I've also attached a picture of my place with Grants Pass airport in the background. Flew a total of 80.8 hrs in '06. The 503 has 381.7 on it. Should I sell it as while still on the plane, or rebuild? Happy new year everyone. > >-------- >Roger in Oregon >1992 KXP 503 > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=84870#84870 > > >Attachments: > >http://forums.matronics.com//files/roger_and_daynas_340.jpg > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Ms. Dixie update
From: "Paul Petty" <paulpetty(at)myway.com>
Date: Jan 02, 2007
Hi Kolbers, I am happy to report that all of the covering on Ms. Dixie is complete as of 12/31/2006. Jan 1 2007 brought forth a major clean up of the shop and set up to spray on the poly brush. Fuslage tail boom and vertical stab are painted and put together. Will have the poly brush (spray coat) on by tonight and the silver will follow as well as the polytone this week. By the weekend i hope to have her completely painted in areothane! Getting close gang! Take care -------- Paul Petty Kolbra #12 Ms Dixie covering and painting Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=85020#85020 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: 2007 Flying Schedule
From: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot1(at)comcast.net>
Date: Jan 02, 2007
I have updated my website with the tentative schedule of events that I will fly the Kolbra to. No details on the routes, except for Oshkosh. Since I seldom fly directly to or from an event, I would like to hear of some other locations that could be visited while on some of these trips. I slacked off last year and only flew 208 hours. I plan to make up for it this year and still finish the two airplanes I'm building in the garage. http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot1/ -------- John Williamson Arlington, TX Kolbra, 912ULS http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot1 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=85024#85024 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Ms. Dixie update
From: "Paul Petty" <paulpetty(at)myway.com>
Date: Jan 02, 2007
http://groups.msn.com/AerialWorld/kolbra012.msnw?Page=7 click the back button or go back a page or 2 for more -------- Paul Petty Kolbra #12 Ms Dixie covering and painting Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=85036#85036 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Malcolmbru(at)aol.com
Date: Jan 02, 2007
Subject: Re: new member -
I had 2 kolbs an firestar kxp and mk2 are there any old kolb factory guys on the list???like Denis malcolm Brubaker Michigan ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: new member -
Date: Jan 02, 2007
|I had 2 kolbs an firestar kxp and mk2 are there any old kolb factory | guys on the list???like Denis malcolm Brubaker Michigan | Hi Malcolm: Dennis Souder monitors the Kolb List. Welcome aboard. john h mkIII ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "flykolb" <flykolb(at)wowway.com>
Subject: Re: new member -
Date: Jan 02, 2007
Denis Where is Brubaker? I'm in Mt. Clemens. Jim Mark III ----- Original Message ----- From: Malcolmbru(at)aol.com To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 5:24 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: new member - I had 2 kolbs an firestar kxp and mk2 are there any old kolb factory guys on the list???like Denis malcolm Brubaker Michigan ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Malcolmbru(at)aol.com
Date: Jan 02, 2007
Subject: Re: new member -
John would the H stand for Houk? Is the Mk 3 highly modified? ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Malcolmbru(at)aol.com
Date: Jan 02, 2007
Subject: Re: new member -
Jim the last name is brubaker I live in Midland and have a friend building a exrtra mal ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Malcolmbru(at)aol.com
Date: Jan 02, 2007
Subject: Re: new member -
Dennis I fly a Kit fox now but that doesn't stop Dick Raehil from partying with me at sun fun. mal ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Malcolmbru(at)aol.com
Date: Jan 02, 2007
Subject: Re: new member -
In a message dated 1/2/2007 6:51:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, kinnepix(at)earthlink.net writes: Congrats on your schmarts in choosing Kolbs -- try tnkaircraft.com. this surch ended with no results is there another to try mal ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 03, 2007
From: "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: 2007 Flying Schedule
John, 18KS just SE of Udall, KS ought to be on your way in a northerly direction. Rick On 1/2/07, John Williamson wrote: > > kolbrapilot1(at)comcast.net> > > I have updated my website with the tentative schedule of events that I > will fly the Kolbra to. > > No details on the routes, except for Oshkosh. > > Since I seldom fly directly to or from an event, I would like to hear of > some other locations that could be visited while on some of these trips. > > I slacked off last year and only flew 208 hours. I plan to make up for it > this year and still finish the two airplanes I'm building in the garage. > > http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot1/ > > -------- > John Williamson > Arlington, TX > > Kolbra, 912ULS > http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot1 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=85024#85024 > > -- Rick Girard "Ya'll drop on in" takes on a whole new meaning when you live at the airport. ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: 2007 Flying Schedule
From: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot1(at)comcast.net>
Date: Jan 03, 2007
Hi Rick, Udall, KS must be where you live! I stopped for fuel and donuts at El Dorado, KS two summers back. I also stop at Juction Cty, KS when in the area to visit the son in the Army. I need places to visit that I can take some photos of. Maybe a trip back to the Northeast is in order. -------- John Williamson Arlington, TX Kolbra, 912ULS http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot1 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=85271#85271 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar(at)gogittum.com>
Subject: MV 07
Date: Jan 03, 2007
Bad news, folks. Pat Ladd just notified me that Goulding's Hotel in Monument Valley is sold out for the weekend of May 17, 18, 19. I called Goulding's a few minutes ago to double check, and it's true - the "Red Bull Air Races" have been scheduled there for our weekend and the hotel is full. I did reserve a campsite, but not sure how many are left, and not too sure I want it. (in fact, real sure I don't want it) Seems to me that the weekend there will be jam packed with people coming to the races - and Red Bull is a big outfit. Might be to our benefit to consider waiting 2 weeks. I just called back, and the very pleasant lady in reservations told me that the following weekend - May 24 & 25 - is full with a large Japanese tour group and no rooms are available. On the 1st of June, they have 10 rooms open, and on June 2, they have 20 rooms. Sounds much better for us. I'm sure that some would enjoy the air races, but I, for one, prefer the quiet, relaxed pace of previous years, and feel no desire to be in the middle of that tangle. Let's aim for June 1 & 2. Lar. Larry Bourne Santa Fe, NM www.gogittum.com ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: MV 07
From: "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Jan 03, 2007
Hi All, Why not make it two weeks earlier when it is slightly cooler or even the last week of April when the flying weather is still good and not so thermally. Later in the summer months in the desert isn't much fun to fly in except really early morning. It would be much nicer for the people that camp out also. Not so dang hot during the day or night. The last week of April or the first week of May is beutiful up there. More green and flower blossums. -------- Roger Lee Tucson, Az. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=85296#85296 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: MV 07
From: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot1(at)comcast.net>
Date: Jan 03, 2007
If you drive in for the Fly-In or live local, you don't have to think about the weather as much as the folks that fly in. If you think the extra people will be a problem, we can move the location to Kayenta (0V7). Earlier or later in the month of May interferes with lots of other events around the country. I would love the see the Red Bull Air Race if it is in that region. As of now, they haven't released the schedule for 2007: http://www.redbullairrace.com/race2007.php -------- John Williamson Arlington, TX Kolbra, 912ULS http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot1 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=85311#85311 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: MV 07
From: "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Jan 03, 2007
Hi Lar, I have not, but it is usually better. The annual Airstream trailer people don't come until later and we usually compete with them in the trailer park. I can check and get back to you. It is much prettier in MV in April because everything blooms, but the first of May is ok, too. Anything before the last week of April or the first of May is much better flying and camping weather. -------- Roger Lee Tucson, Az. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=85312#85312 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Kold in Fl
Date: Jan 03, 2007
From: riquenkelly(at)aol.com
Larry, I apologize if I've gotten my wires crossed and have already asked you. Can you send me your phone number or call me at 850-543-1134? I'd like to drive up this weekend if that is allright. Thanks, Rique -----Original Message----- From: Cat36Fly(at)aol.com Sent: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 5:58 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kold in Fl There is a MKlllx about hrs driving time north of in Md. If you are interested I can give you directions or you could fly into MD1 (Massey Aerodrome) in Massey Md. Larry Tasker MKlllx 582 N615RT ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 04, 2007
Subject: Re: 2007 Flying Schedule
From: rap(at)isp.com
John: If you are in the area (SouthEast Kansas)You are welcome to stop at my strip 0KS8 Pearce field on the sectional. I have plenty of hanger space & a choice of two loaner vehicles. You are also welcome to camp. I met you ywo years ago at the Kolb homecomeing. Rick Pearce Kolb MK3C anphib. --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" > > > Hi Rick, > > Udall, KS must be where you live! > > I stopped for fuel and donuts at El Dorado, KS two summers back. I also > stop at Juction Cty, KS when in the area to visit the son in the Army. > > I need places to visit that I can take some photos of. Maybe a trip back > to the Northeast is in order. > > -------- > John Williamson > Arlington, TX > > Kolbra, 912ULS > http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot1 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=85271#85271 > > ----------------------------------------- ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Thom Riddle <jtriddle(at)adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: 2007 Flying Schedule
Date: Jan 04, 2007
John W, There are a few Kolbers in Western New York that would probably like to see you and your Kolbra if you come by this way. Thom in Buffalo ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: MV 07
Date: Jan 04, 2007
"Bad news, folks. Pat Ladd just notified me that Goulding's Hotel in Monument Valley is sold out for the weekend of May 17, 18, 19. Larry Bourne" Larry/All: The Red Bull Schedule for 2007 has NOT been finalized and posted to their web site as of a few minutes ago. They indicated it should be posted in a few weeks. http://www.redbullairrace.com/race2007.php Previous races have always been held in large popular urban locations where as many spectators as possible can be reached. Monument Valley is just the opposite of all previous race locations. Recommend we hold off until Red Bull finalizes their 2007 schedule before we jump to conclusions to change the dates of the 2007 Unplanned/Unorganized Kolb Flyin Monument Valley. This is a flyin. Those that flyin usually tent camp. Don't ever remember having a problem locating a spot to set up my tent. Take care, john h mkIII ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 04, 2007
From: TheWanderingWench <thewanderingwench(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: MV 07
My guess is that no matter which date it's moved to, there will be a problem for some. (As someone who plans to fly from western Oregon, putting the fly-in into April is a problem - it's usually raining!) And moving it later into June - the heat! Last year we flew mostly in the morning and evening due to the heat - and it gets worse the further into summer it gets. John W. suggested Kayenta as an alternative - what's that like as a camping spot? And for those of us who don't have wheels (except attached to our planes) - can we walk to a store or restaurant? John H. suggested we wait until the Red Bull races are solidly confirmed - that makes sense to me. I know this is supposed to be an unorganized (disorganized?) fly-in - but I hope someone will track the Red Bull Air Races so that as soon as possible a decision can be made about when and where the MV event will occur. Some of you are retired, but I need to clear my work schedule. Larry Cottrell and I are planning on flying to Texas and coming back via the MV Fly-In. So we'll need to change our timing if the MV weekend changes. Arty --- Roger Lee wrote: > > > Hi All, > > Why not make it two weeks earlier when it is > slightly cooler or even the last week of April when > the flying weather is still good and not so > thermally. Later in the summer months in the desert > isn't much fun to fly in except really early > morning. It would be much nicer for the people that > camp out also. Not so dang hot during the day or > night. The last week of April or the first week of > May is beutiful up there. More green and flower > blossums. > > -------- > Roger Lee > Tucson, Az. > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=85296#85296 > > > > > > > > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List > > Web Forums! > > > > > www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com "Life's a daring adventure or nothing" Helen Keller "I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death." ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Firestar II - new owner in Henderson/Boulder City, NV
From: "hd89044" <jhm9812(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Jan 04, 2007
Hi All, I wanted to introduce myself and my new aircraft that I have yet to fly. I hope to contribute to this forum in the future. I just purchased a Kolb Firestar II in Needles, CA. a couple of days ago. The paperwork I received shows it as FS 496? I may have the wrong number but it is in the 400's I believe. I was told it was built in Phoenix, AZ circa 1996. It has approx. 180 hours on the A&E. A Rotax 503 engine. I'm reading as many of these posts as possible for future reference. Everything looks good with the exception of the tail wheel which is worn down. I called Travis at Kolb and ordered a new one for $25. I'm a retired US Army Officer (CID). I had a private ticket 35+ years ago but have not flown in as many years (I probably had 200 hours in the mid 70's). I'm taking lessons from Don Wyatt in Boulder City, NV (Ultralight Flying Machines). My plan is to get experience in Don's Quicksilver Sport and then transition to the Firestar. I also will mention that ordered the King Sport Pilot DVD's and hope to take the written test within the next week or so. My Firestar is not "N" numbered so I also am focusing on getting that process started. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=85472#85472 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/kolb_cockpitl_214.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/kolb_setup_831.jpg ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "David Key" <dhkey(at)msn.com>
Subject: Firestar II - new owner in Henderson/Boulder City, NV
Date: Jan 04, 2007
you are going to love your plane, looks like fun.. >From: "hd89044" <jhm9812(at)yahoo.com> >Reply-To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com >To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com >Subject: Kolb-List: Firestar II - new owner in Henderson/Boulder City, NV >Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 13:35:50 -0800 > > >Hi All, > >I wanted to introduce myself and my new aircraft that I have yet to fly. I >hope to contribute to this forum in the future. > >I just purchased a Kolb Firestar II in Needles, CA. a couple of days ago. >The paperwork I received shows it as FS 496? I may have the wrong number >but it is in the 400's I believe. I was told it was built in Phoenix, AZ >circa 1996. It has approx. 180 hours on the A&E. A Rotax 503 engine. I'm >reading as many of these posts as possible for future reference. Everything >looks good with the exception of the tail wheel which is worn down. I >called Travis at Kolb and ordered a new one for $25. > >I'm a retired US Army Officer (CID). I had a private ticket 35+ years ago >but have not flown in as many years (I probably had 200 hours in the mid >70's). I'm taking lessons from Don Wyatt in Boulder City, NV (Ultralight >Flying Machines). My plan is to get experience in Don's Quicksilver Sport >and then transition to the Firestar. I also will mention that ordered the >King Sport Pilot DVD's and hope to take the written test within the next >week or so. > >My Firestar is not "N" numbered so I also am focusing on getting that >process started. > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=85472#85472 > > >Attachments: > >http://forums.matronics.com//files/kolb_cockpitl_214.jpg >http://forums.matronics.com//files/kolb_setup_831.jpg > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Firestar II - new owner in Henderson/Boulder City, NV
From: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot1(at)comcast.net>
Date: Jan 04, 2007
hd89044, A name would be real nice so we know what to call you! If you had a Private Certificate 35 years ago, you still have it. Go to the FAR and go thru the procedure to get a new copy of your certificate. There is no reason for you to do anything with the Sport Pilot material other than for your own use. If you have a Private SEL Certificate, the FAA won't issue or test you for a Sport Pilot Land Airplane rating. Go to a local CFI and get current with a Flight Review, "N" number your FireStar and the whole world opens up to you. -------- John Williamson Arlington, TX Kolbra, 912ULS http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot1 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=85526#85526 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: WhiskeyVictor36(at)aol.com
Date: Jan 04, 2007
Subject: McMASTER-CARR, OUTSTANDING SERVICE
Some time ago, someone on the list mentioned McMaster-Carr as a good place to purchase industrial hardware. Well, I just had an occasion to order three items from them and I can hardly believe the fast service I received. I ordered via the Web today at about 11:10 AM. Then, almost immediately, I received my order confirmation back at 11:17 AM. About 4:30 PM I opened my front door to get the mail and something was blocking the door. I looked down and saw a small package. At first I thought maybe it was some medicine my wife had ordered, but then saw it was addressed to me and it was from McMaster-Carr. Same day service! Outstanding!! I recommend them wholeheartedly. Bill Varnes Original Kolb FireStar Audubon NJ Do Not Archive ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Firestar II - new owner in Henderson/Boulder City, NV
From: "hd89044" <jhm9812(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Jan 04, 2007
Sorry, Let me see if I can change this on my profile. Name: John Murphy Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=85537#85537 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Malcolmbru(at)aol.com
Date: Jan 04, 2007
Subject: Re: 2007 Flying Schedule
John we are planing a trip in late jan -early feb wear mite you bee then? malcolm ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Last flight of the year
From: "R. Hankins" <rphanks(at)grantspass.com>
Date: Jan 04, 2007
Ellery, Good eye. That is my trailer/hanger. It is built out of thin wall box tubing and covered in prepainted corrugated steel roofing. It is extremely light and pulls easily. It has paid its way in hanger rent many times over. Now if I can just talk the county into letting me hack a taxiway through the trees....... -------- Roger in Oregon 1992 KXP 503 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=85547#85547 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: DAquaNut(at)aol.com
Date: Jan 05, 2007
Subject: Re: MV 07
In a message dated 1/4/2007 9:56:29 A.M. Central Standard Time, thewanderingwench(at)yahoo.com writes: Larry Cottrell and I are planning on flying to Texas and coming back via the MV Fly-In. So we'll need to change our timing if the MV weekend changes. Arty Arty Where all in Texas are You and Larry. going to visit?. Ed ( Firefly #062 In Houston) Do Not Archieve ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "David Key" <dhkey(at)msn.com>
Subject: MV 07 Texas Overnight Waypoint(F69) Open to Kolb Pilots
Date: Jan 05, 2007
Larry Cottrell and Arty, I'm not going to be able to decide if I'm going to MV till the end of March. But I live near Dallas Tx in an airport home (F69) you can park your planes, get gas, food, wash cloths, take showers and sleep in beds right here at the house. There are over a dozen resturants, gas stations, a home depo, a walmart, and a full sized shopping mall less than a mile away. It's not as fun as camping out but I'd be happy to have you over. If I can't do MV I'd still like to meet up with you on your way through Texas. ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: New seals for Rotax 447
From: "olendorf" <olendorf(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jan 05, 2007
So today I decided it was a good time to remove my 447 and replace the front and rear oil seals. I have noticed a little oil dripping from the front of the engine after flying and figured it was a leaky seal. I should have replaced them at 150 hours when I decarboned I guess. Did you ever see the gearbox section that has the two open holes? Everyone looks at those holes and asks why they aren't capped off. Rotax says this is the way it is supposed to be. Did you wonder if anything gets in there? I was removing the gear box when I saw this. It looks like something was making a nest. Probably a spider. I can't figure out why they needed all that gravel though. The funny thing was I noticed pieces of gravel on the engine mount once and was really confused how it got there. It wouldn't hurt anything since this is just a spacer. By the way did any of you guys notice the price for Rotax tools lately? The flywheel puller is now over $160. [Shocked] I remember when I thought $50 was too much. The PTO gear puller is $162. I can't get the gear off so I ordered one today from Canada for $75. I didn't need the Rotax flywheel puller. I was able to use a generic $9 puller for that. I'm also going to repaint my exhaust with POR-20, high heat paint meant for manifolds. Good for 1400 degrees. Supposed to be fantastic paint as someone mentioned here a few weeks ago. See www.por15.com for all their products. -------- Scott Olendorf Original Firestar, Rotax 447, Powerfin prop Schenectady, NY http://KolbFirestar.googlepages.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=85606#85606 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Rotax B box
From: "olendorf" <olendorf(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jan 05, 2007
What oil do you guys use in your "B" box? Everywhere I read 90w gear oil but the Rotax manual says: Gear Oil, API-GL5 or GLSAE 140EP or 85 W - 140 EP. I was initially using 80w-90 like CPS and others sell for this purpose. But I have changed over to 85W140 Gear Oil. I didn't see any difference. What do you think? -------- Scott Olendorf Original Firestar, Rotax 447, Powerfin prop Schenectady, NY http://KolbFirestar.googlepages.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=85611#85611 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: <kfackler(at)ameritech.net>
Subject: Transitioning ultralight to ELSA
Date: Jan 05, 2007
I am just beginning the process of transitioning my Mark II (registered ultralight trainer) to Experimental Light Sport Aircraft (ELSA). Mark Gray, who occasionally participates here on the list and flies a Firestar II from the same airport, is also beginning the process. Is there anyone on the list who has already completed (or even nearly completed) this process and would be willing to correspond with us via direct email to share your lessons learned? Please note that we already have the kit from EAA. We're looking for guidance beyond that, i.e., the 'rocks in the road' or 'things not to do' or 'it will go better if you do this rather than that' and so forth. My off-list email is: kfackler(at)ameritech.net Thank you in advance for any assistance or guidance you care to offer! -Ken Fackler Kolb Mark II / A722KWF Rochester MI ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Firestar II - new owner in Henderson/Boulder City,
NV
Date: Jan 05, 2007
| Let me see if I can change this on my profile. | | Name: John Murphy Hi John M: Welcome to the Kolb List. Got fuel at Boulder City Airport after our first Kolb Flyin at Monument Valley, Utah. Take care, john h ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Jim Kmet" <jlsk1(at)frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: Transitioning ultralight to ELSA
Date: Jan 05, 2007
Ken, please keep us updated, as I will be doing this same thing in about 3 months, Thanks, Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: <kfackler(at)ameritech.net> Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 8:29 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Transitioning ultralight to ELSA > > I am just beginning the process of transitioning my Mark II (registered > ultralight trainer) to Experimental Light Sport Aircraft (ELSA). Mark > Gray, > who occasionally participates here on the list and flies a Firestar II > from > the same airport, is also beginning the process. > > Is there anyone on the list who has already completed (or even nearly > completed) this process and would be willing to correspond with us via > direct email to share your lessons learned? > > Please note that we already have the kit from EAA. We're looking for > guidance beyond that, i.e., the 'rocks in the road' or 'things not to do' > or > 'it will go better if you do this rather than that' and so forth. > > My off-list email is: kfackler(at)ameritech.net > > Thank you in advance for any assistance or guidance you care to offer! > > -Ken Fackler > Kolb Mark II / A722KWF > Rochester MI > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: robert bean <slyck(at)frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: Transitioning ultralight to ELSA
Date: Jan 05, 2007
Register it in a state that won't try to track you down for sales tax because some use the registration as a trigger. Register it in a state that requires no state registration or annual fee tax dodger BB On 5, Jan 2007, at 9:29 AM, wrote: > > I am just beginning the process of transitioning my Mark II (registered > ultralight trainer) to Experimental Light Sport Aircraft (ELSA). Mark > Gray, > who occasionally participates here on the list and flies a Firestar II > from > the same airport, is also beginning the process. > > Is there anyone on the list who has already completed (or even nearly > completed) this process and would be willing to correspond with us via > direct email to share your lessons learned? > > Please note that we already have the kit from EAA. We're looking for > guidance beyond that, i.e., the 'rocks in the road' or 'things not to > do' or > 'it will go better if you do this rather than that' and so forth. > > My off-list email is: kfackler(at)ameritech.net > > Thank you in advance for any assistance or guidance you care to offer! > > -Ken Fackler > Kolb Mark II / A722KWF > Rochester MI > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 05, 2007
From: TheWanderingWench <thewanderingwench(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: MV 07
As I just repliedf to David Key - we haven't finalized our route plans yet - I'm in the process of working on it. But Larry has a brother a little ways north of San Antonio and I have good friends in the same general area (near Burnett) and so my first thought is to follow I-10 across southern AZ & NM and into the San Antonio area, and coming back via MV and the disorganized Kolb fly-in. That might be all we have time for - my husband will divorce me if I'm gone more than a month! Arty --- DAquaNut(at)aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 1/4/2007 9:56:29 A.M. Central > Standard Time, > thewanderingwench(at)yahoo.com writes: > > Larry Cottrell and I are planning on > flying to Texas and coming back via the MV Fly-In. > So > we'll need to change our timing if the MV weekend > changes. > > Arty > > > > Arty > > Where all in Texas are You and Larry. going > to visit?. > > > Ed ( Firefly #062 In Houston) > Do Not Archieve > www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com "Life's a daring adventure or nothing" Helen Keller "I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death." ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Brake option for light Kolbs
From: "olendorf" <olendorf(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jan 05, 2007
I have been looking at those as well. Just don't have the skills to design, fabricate a mounting method. Let us know how you do it. -------- Scott Olendorf Original Firestar, Rotax 447, Powerfin prop Schenectady, NY http://KolbFirestar.googlepages.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=85643#85643 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org>
Subject: Re: Rotax B box
Date: Jan 05, 2007
Since I went to Mobil 1 synthetic gear lube, I haven't had any metal dust show up on the little magnet on the drain hole. Always had dust with regular gear oil, regardless of oil weight. I think that makes a difference. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Rotax 582, B box, 2.58:1 ratio, 2 blade 68" Ivoprop ----- Original Message ----- From: "olendorf" <olendorf(at)gmail.com> Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 8:54 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Rotax B box > > What oil do you guys use in your "B" box? Everywhere I read 90w gear oil > but the Rotax manual says: Gear Oil, API-GL5 or GLSAE 140EP or 85 W - 140 > EP. > > I was initially using 80w-90 like CPS and others sell for this purpose. > But I have changed over to 85W140 Gear Oil. I didn't see any difference. > What do you think? > > -------- > Scott Olendorf > Original Firestar, Rotax 447, Powerfin prop > Schenectady, NY > http://KolbFirestar.googlepages.com > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=85611#85611 > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Ralph" <ul15rhb(at)juno.com>
Date: Jan 05, 2007
Subject: Re: Rotax B box
I agree with Richard. Mobil 1 synthetic gear oil is the way to go. Even after a year, it's still clear with no filings on the drain plug magnet. Ralph Original Firestar 20 years flying it N91493 -- "Richard Pike" wrote: Since I went to Mobil 1 synthetic gear lube, I haven't had any metal dust show up on the little magnet on the drain hole. Always had dust with regular gear oil, regardless of oil weight. I think that makes a difference. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Rotax 582, B box, 2.58:1 ratio, 2 blade 68" Ivoprop ----- Original Message ----- From: "olendorf" <olendorf(at)gmail.com> Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 8:54 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Rotax B box > > What oil do you guys use in your "B" box? Everywhere I read 90w gear oil > but the Rotax manual says: Gear Oil, API-GL5 or GLSAE 140EP or 85 W - 140 > EP. > > I was initially using 80w-90 like CPS and others sell for this purpose. > But I have changed over to 85W140 Gear Oil. I didn't see any difference. > What do you think? > > -------- > Scott Olendorf > Original Firestar, Rotax 447, Powerfin prop > Schenectady, NY > http://KolbFirestar.googlepages.com > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=85611#85611 > > > ________________________________________________________________________ FREE Reminder Service - NEW from AmericanGreetings.com Click HERE and never forget a Birthday or Anniversary again! http://track.juno.com/s/lc?s=197335&u=http://www.americangreetings.com/products/online_calendar.pd ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com>
Subject: MV fly in
Date: Jan 05, 2007
I see that there is a move on the list to change the date of the weekend at MV. Get yourselves sorted out please chaps. I confirmed a booking at Holiday Inn Kayenta this morning for 18th to 20th.May If there is going to be a change please do it quickly as I have flights to sort out also. Earlier would suit me fine, particularly in view of the comments about the heat and in April I may be able to get into Gouldings which would make visiting with fellow Kolbers that much easier. After all from my point of view that is the object of the visit. Definitely do not want to get involved with Red Bull. They ran a weekend about 10 miles from home last year on a day when the weather was foul. They kept putting off cancellation until late afternoon when it became too late anyway and the consequence was that all the roads for miles around were clogged with traffic trying to get in while fighting with traffic trying to get out. Absolute mayhem. It was obvious from early morning that the day was unflyable but of course Joe Public didn`t know that and started out anyway. I agree that such an isolated place as MV seems unlikely but wouldn`t it be spectacular ! Pat ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Rotax B box
Date: Jan 05, 2007
Does anyone have experience with Mobil 1 synthetic gear oil and the E- gear box? Does the superior lubrication of the synthetic oil ever keep the starter sprag from engaging properly? On Jan 5, 2007, at 5:54 PM, Ralph wrote: > > I agree with Richard. Mobil 1 synthetic gear oil is the way to go. > Even after a year, it's still clear with no filings on the drain plug > magnet. > > Ralph > Original Firestar > 20 years flying it > N91493 > > -- "Richard Pike" wrote: > > Since I went to Mobil 1 synthetic gear lube, I haven't had any metal > dust > show up on the little magnet on the drain hole. Always had dust with > regular > gear oil, regardless of oil weight. I think that makes a difference. > Richard Pike > MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > Rotax 582, B box, 2.58:1 ratio, 2 blade 68" Ivoprop > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "olendorf" <olendorf(at)gmail.com> > To: > Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 8:54 AM > Subject: Kolb-List: Rotax B box > > >> >> What oil do you guys use in your "B" box? Everywhere I read 90w > gear oil >> but the Rotax manual says: Gear Oil, API-GL5 or GLSAE 140EP or 85 > W - 140 >> EP. >> >> I was initially using 80w-90 like CPS and others sell for this > purpose. >> But I have changed over to 85W140 Gear Oil. I didn't see any > difference. >> What do you think? >> >> -------- >> Scott Olendorf >> Original Firestar, Rotax 447, Powerfin prop >> Schenectady, NY >> http://KolbFirestar.googlepages.com >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=85611#85611 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > FREE Reminder Service - NEW from AmericanGreetings.com > Click HERE and never forget a Birthday or Anniversary again! > http://track.juno.com/s/lc?s=197335&u=http:// > www.americangreetings.com/products/online_calendar.pd > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: HShack(at)aol.com
Date: Jan 05, 2007
Subject: Re: Rotax B box
In a message dated 1/5/2007 8:55:39 AM Eastern Standard Time, olendorf(at)gmail.com writes: 85 W - 140 EP. I get that weight [or close to it] at almost any auto parts house. Valvoline, full synthetic. Never see any debris on the little magnet. Howard Shackleford FS II SC ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Rotax B box
From: "olendorf" <olendorf(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jan 05, 2007
I guess I'll stick with the 85w-140. Synthetic seems like the way to go. Thanks. -------- Scott Olendorf Original Firestar, Rotax 447, Powerfin prop Schenectady, NY http://KolbFirestar.googlepages.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=85812#85812 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Off-Topic, Flyover Country News
Date: Jan 06, 2007
"Whether it's cold or whether it's hot -- we must have weather, whether or not.">> Hi, While you folks are having all that grief with the weather, down in Venice (the real one not Venice Beach) the water is so low the gondoliers are in trouble getting about. Times they are a` changin` Cheers >From Pat in the UK where it is p-------g down. I have just been out to the strip I use to pull the prop through on the Xtra and everything is up to your ankles in mud and all the barns are leaking through onto the planes.. Yuck! ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 06, 2007
From: "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Off-Topic, Flyover Country News
Pat, Here on the eastern edge of the Great Plains, we're still in drought conditions. If you could just ask those weather harpies to move the jet stream ever so slightly, we could use a little rain, even if the hangar does leak a bit. Stay dry, spring is coming. Rick On 1/6/07, pat ladd wrote: > > > "Whether it's cold or whether it's hot -- we must have weather, whether or > not.">> > > Hi, > > While you folks are having all that grief with the weather, down in Venice > (the real one not Venice Beach) the water is so low the gondoliers are in > trouble getting about. > > Times they are a` changin` > > Cheers > > >From Pat in the UK where it is p-------g down. I have just been out to > the > strip I use to pull the prop through on the Xtra and everything is up to > your ankles in mud and all the barns are leaking through onto the planes.. > Yuck! > > -- Rick Girard "Ya'll drop on in" takes on a whole new meaning when you live at the airport. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "ron wehba" <rwehba(at)cebridge.net>
Subject: Re: Brake option for light Kolbs
Date: Jan 06, 2007
morning lar, i bet it is mine!,,, later gotta got make a dollar ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar(at)gogittum.com> Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 8:26 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Brake option for light Kolbs > > It'd be nice if you leave a portion of the message you're replying to in > your post. With so many topics and comments flying around, it'd help > people keep track of who's talking about what. > > If you're on the US / bicycle brake topic, I have a pic of a bicycle disc > brake setup on an US in Texas. Lar. Do not > Archive. > > Larry Bourne > Santa Fe, NM > www.gogittum.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "olendorf" <olendorf(at)gmail.com> > To: > Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 8:09 AM > Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Brake option for light Kolbs > > >> >> I have been looking at those as well. Just don't have the skills to >> design, fabricate a mounting method. Let us know how you do it. >> >> -------- >> Scott Olendorf >> Original Firestar, Rotax 447, Powerfin prop >> Schenectady, NY >> http://KolbFirestar.googlepages.com >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=85643#85643 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Brake option for light Kolbs
From: "olendorf" <olendorf(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jan 06, 2007
biglar wrote: > It'd be nice if you leave a portion of the message you're replying to in > your post. With so many topics and comments flying around, it'd help people > keep track of who's talking about what. > --- Sorry about that. It makes sense if you use the forum. I don't know what the email list users see. -------- Scott Olendorf Original Firestar, Rotax 447, Powerfin prop Schenectady, NY http://KolbFirestar.googlepages.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=85867#85867 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 06, 2007
From: possums <possums(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: So your thinking about the "here after" uh?
>Hope 2007 is good to you, Brother Sullivan... I wish you and yours good health. >I have a brand new attitude about work and a brand new aortic valve. You and yours too ,,, so I was thinking - maybe?? Just to cover all your bases. Last month Benny Hinn sent letters to followers seeking donations for a <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benny_Hinn/wiki/Gulfstream_G400/G450>Gulfstream G400 executive jet. Hinn says a personal jet will allow him to " preach the Gospel around the globe." Hinn asked 6000 previous donors to each contribute $1000 to cover the $6 million down payment; the total cost of the plane is over $30 million. Donors of $1,000 or more get a scale model of Dove One and their names inscribed inside the plane so he can pray for them on his trips. Hinn's response: "Long ago I said, 'I will go, Lord. Send me! But I cannot do it without you, nor can I do all our wonderful Lord has called me to do without Dove One!" ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 07, 2007
From: possums <possums(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: So your thinking about the "here after" uh?
Sorry ...I didn't mean to offend anyone. Just responding to Beauford. That very special Christmas present. >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dmVU08zVpA ________________________________________________________________________________
From: snuffy(at)usol.com
Subject: Re: So your thinking about the "here after" uh?
Date: Jan 07, 2007
"G400 executive jet. Hinn says a personal jet will allow him to " I'd think a Kolb Firestar would do just fine. But then again he may also need a pilot. Though he probably already has one as one bumper sticker read. I don't know if I'd feel real comfortable sitting in a G400 at FL20 with an invisible pilot at the controls. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Beauford T" <beauford(at)tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: Re: So your thinking about the "here after" uh?
Date: Jan 07, 2007
Sully... And the really disgusting thing about it is that this phony little bastard will likely get the money... and some of the 6000 may be able to afford it, but a helluva lot more of them will not... and they will suffer daily in significant ways for having scrimped from their meager savings and sent it to him... Part of me just shrugs its shoulders and marvels at the seemingly endless stupidity and naivet=E9 of the common citizen...another part of me would like to see someone (I would glady help) take this fat slimeball and "send him" once and for all..(along with all the others of his ilk) and festoon his entrails all over a large tree somewhere.... and the third part of me is envious -- and wishing I were up there in Benny's seat in the G-400 enroute to Jamaica, drinking a bottomless 3 olive Beefeater Martini, listening to Mozart, and getting those 1000 mile blow jobs from a tag team of broads who bring their own supply of clean towels to the event... As I check out over at work at the end of this month, I am thinking ever more seriously about just getting the hell away from the the growing urban mess here in Brandon and all of the low-class bullshit crime that goes on here in the greater Tampa area...The wife has some land in rural Crisp county, near Cordele... Mebbe just move on up there and build a little house out in the middle of a 100 acre field... and really "retire"... (sit in a cane rocker on the front porch, in my skivvies, with a bucket of ice, a jug of George Dickel and my 22-250 Model 70, and fire upon anything which presents itself in my field of view...). Life grinds on... Regards, b. ----- Original Message ----- From: possums To: beauford(at)tampabay.rr.com Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 11:28 PM Subject: Kolb-List: So your thinking about the "here after" uh? >Hope 2007 is good to you, Brother Sullivan... I wish you and yours good health. >I have a brand new attitude about work and a brand new aortic valve. You and yours too ,,, so I was thinking - maybe?? Just to cover all your bases. Last month Benny Hinn sent letters to followers seeking donations for a Gulfstream G400 executive jet. Hinn says a personal jet will allow him to " preach the Gospel around the globe." Hinn asked 6000 previous donors to each contribute $1000 to cover the $6 million down payment; the total cost of the plane is over $30 million. Donors of $1,000 or more get a scale model of Dove One and their names inscribed inside the plane so he can pray for them on his trips. Hinn's response: "Long ago I said, 'I will go, Lord. Send me! But I cannot do it without you, nor can I do all our wonderful Lord has called me to do without Dove One!" ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Beauford T" <beauford(at)tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: My Apologies
Date: Jan 07, 2007
Kolbers: My humble apologies for the Kolb list message I just accidently posted... It was intended for transmission to a single individual and contains comments and references not suitable for list viewing... It was not my intent to offend list members and I sincerely regret my carelessness... Rest assured I will be more careful in the future. Beauford (now wide awake) ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 07, 2007
From: "Robert Laird" <rlaird(at)cavediver.com>
Subject: Re: So your thinking about the "here after" uh?
heheheh... every Southern man's dream of retirement! Rock on! On 1/7/07, Beauford T wrote: > > Mebbe just move on up there and build a little house out in the middle of > a 100 acre field... and really "retire"... (sit in a cane rocker on the > front porch, in my skivvies, with a bucket of ice, a jug of George Dickel > and my 22-250 Model 70, and fire upon anything which presents itself in my > field of view...). > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Richard Brown" <dicknginni(at)erinet.com>
Subject: Re: So your thinking about the "here after" uh?
Date: Jan 07, 2007
It seems strange how the Apostle Paul did all the work God asked him to do, with nothing. Just faith!! He did just fine... Dick Brown ----- Original Message ----- From: possums To: beauford(at)tampabay.rr.com Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 11:28 PM Subject: Kolb-List: So your thinking about the "here after" uh? >Hope 2007 is good to you, Brother Sullivan... I wish you and yours good health. >I have a brand new attitude about work and a brand new aortic valve. You and yours too ,,, so I was thinking - maybe?? Just to cover all your bases. Last month Benny Hinn sent letters to followers seeking donations for a Gulfstream G400 executive jet. Hinn says a personal jet will allow him to " preach the Gospel around the globe." Hinn asked 6000 previous donors to each contribute $1000 to cover the $6 million down payment; the total cost of the plane is over $30 million. Donors of $1,000 or more get a scale model of Dove One and their names inscribed inside the plane so he can pray for them on his trips. Hinn's response: "Long ago I said, 'I will go, Lord. Send me! But I cannot do it without you, nor can I do all our wonderful Lord has called me to do without Dove One!" ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org>
Subject: Re: My Apologies
Date: Jan 07, 2007
As one who takes a very strong stand on things Christian, let me say - for the benefit of those on the list who seldom/never frequent the interior of a Christian church - the antics of neither Benny Hinn nor Pat Robertson come anywhere close to my concept of "normal Christianity," at least not the way I understand it, nor as it has ever been practiced by mainstream Christians. In fact, during Sunday School class this morning, both of their names came up as role models of "false prophets." So, just as it is unfair to curse all ultralighters for the thoughtless behavior of a moron in a powered parachute that makes all the spam cans go around because he is doing multiple touch and goes on the primary active runway, just remember that most Christians (or at least me) are decent folks who are not trying to con you out of a new G4. But if you any of you mad men can manage to land one at Indian Springs airport (3TN0) and tie a big red bow around it with my name on the tag, I will graciously accept... Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Pastor, Blountville Community Chapel http://www.bcchapel.org ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 07, 2007
From: "Charles Davis" <ceddavis(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Seperating cage from boom tube
I'm in the midst of a major rebuild of my Firefly, and have hit a snag. In order to repair some cage damage, I need to separate the cage from the boom tube. After stripping the cage completely, it was time to pull the large bolt out of the "H frame". However, it doesn't want to come out. :) I've been reluctant to use much force, since it's such a structurally critical part of the plane. Any suggestions? Thanks, Chuck Malvern, PA ________________________________________________________________________________
From: snuffy(at)usol.com
Subject: Re: My Apologies
Date: Jan 07, 2007
Benny Hinn nor > Pat Robertson come anywhere close to my concept of "normal > Christianity," According to the bible they're going to have everlasting life in heaven just like you pastor Pike.... Romans 10:13 Oddly enough. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Cabin Heat
Date: Jan 07, 2007
| Looking for other opinions....John ? Richard ? anybody tried this ? | | | Gotta Fly... Mike: Larry Cottrell uses forced air from the engine blower housing exhaust for heat. Far as I know, It works. john h mkIII and a Chilli Vest ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell(at)fmtcblue.com>
Subject: Re: Cabin Heat
Date: Jan 07, 2007
> Mike: > > Larry Cottrell uses forced air from the engine blower housing exhaust > for heat. Far as I know, It works. > > john h > mkIII and a Chilli Vest > It actually works quite well, but it is on a two stroke. I was under the impression that you were intending to put it on a 4 stroke? I tried something similar to the set up that you had the picture of. It was on the muffler on a Mark III. It was worthless in my opinion. Capturing the air out of the shroud however would allow me to stay quite comfortable in almost all weather. Larry, Oregon ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 07, 2007
From: Charlie England <ceengland(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: My Apologies
snuffy(at)usol.com wrote: > > Benny Hinn nor > > >>Pat Robertson come anywhere close to my concept of "normal >>Christianity," >> >> > >According to the bible they're going to have everlasting life in heaven >just like you pastor Pike.... Romans 10:13 Oddly enough. > > Highly debatable at best, unless your bible is very different from mine. To paraphrase what they say in real estate, context, context, context. Charlie ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Ralph" <ul15rhb(at)juno.com>
Date: Jan 08, 2007
Subject: Re: Seperating cage from boom tube
Chuck, take another 3/8" bolt and pound it out. It will come out. Ralph -- "Charles Davis" wrote: I'm in the midst of a major rebuild of my Firefly, and have hit a snag. In order to repair some cage damage, I need to separate the cage from the boom tube. After stripping the cage completely, it was time to pull the large bolt out of the "H frame". However, it doesn't want to come out. :) I've been reluctant to use much force, since it's such a structurally critical part of the plane. Any suggestions? Thanks, Chuck Malvern, PA ________________________________________________________________________ FREE Reminder Service - NEW from AmericanGreetings.com Click HERE and never forget a Birthday or Anniversary again! http://track.juno.com/s/lc?s=197335&u=http://www.americangreetings.com/products/online_calendar.pd ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Malcolmbru(at)AOL.COM
Date: Jan 07, 2007
Subject: Re: My Apologies let it stop list
this is way off topics lets keep it off list. if any one of you respond poorly to my suggestion I will have you kicked off the list. this is a definite no no keep your Christian opinion to your selves. off list. mal ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Malcolmbru(at)aol.com
Date: Jan 07, 2007
Subject: Re: My Apologies
In a message dated 1/7/2007 9:20:41 AM Eastern Standard Time, beauford(at)tampabay.rr.com writes: Kolbers: My humble apologies for the Kolb list message I just accidently posted... It was intended for transmission to a single individual and contains comments and references not suitable for list viewing... It was not my intent to offend list members and I sincerely regret my carelessness... Rest assured I will be more careful in the future. Beauford (now wide awake) ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 07, 2007
From: <jeepacro(at)cox.net>
Subject: Re: My Apologies let it stop list
A MEN -- Rob. ---- Malcolmbru(at)aol.com wrote: > this is way off topics lets keep it off list. if any one of you respond > poorly to my suggestion I will have you kicked off the list. this is a definite > no no keep your Christian opinion to your selves. off list. mal ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 07, 2007
From: TheWanderingWench <thewanderingwench(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Question re: Sport Pilot Proficiency Checks
After I posted to the list about Private Pilots needing a proficiency check before they could use their driver's license to fly under the Sport Pilot regs - someone asked me where in the FARs that was. I wrote to the FAA inspector who did my E-LSA inspection. Here is my question and his reply. Arty --- Mike.T.Robertson(at)faa.gov wrote: > Subject: Re: Question re: Sport Pilot Proficiency > Checks > To: TheWanderingWench > From: Mike.T.Robertson(at)faa.gov > Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 09:57:35 -0800 > > > > > > Hi Arty, > > Pilots will still need to do a bi-annual check but > they do not need to get > a make-model endorsement in their logbooks like a > sport pilot does. Who > dopes or does not need a logbook endorsement is > covered by the aircraft > operating limitations. > > Hope that clarifies it. > > Mike > > > > > TheWanderingWench > > > h(at)yahoo.com> > To > Mike T > Robertson/ANM/FAA@FAA > 12/28/2006 08:14 > cc > AM > > > Subject > Question re: > Sport Pilot > Proficiency > Checks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Mike, > > I heard that you're now in Spokane - and probably > very > very happy about no longer having to commute. What > a > great holiday gift! > > When you came out to Sandy to do my airworthiness > inspection, you said that a lot of private pilots > will > be suprised to find out that - in order to fly under > the Sport Pilot regs and use their driver's license > instead of a current medical - they will first have > to > take a proficiency exam...they can't just let their > current medical expire and fly using their driver's > license. > > At least that's what my notes say you said - I may > have gotten it wrong. A couple of private pilots > have > challenged me on this so wonder if 1) I got it > wrong, > and 2) if I heard you correctly, where it is in the > FARs, so I can refer them to it. > > Thanks in advance for helping me find out what's > correct. > > Have a great 2007 > > Arty Trost > > www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com > > "Life's a daring adventure or nothing" > Helen Keller > > "I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive > safely at death." > > www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com "Life's a daring adventure or nothing" Helen Keller "I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death." ________________________________________________________________________________
From: APilot(at)webtv.net
Date: Jan 07, 2007
Subject: Re: Seperating cage from boom tube
When parts do not come apart easily, such as aluminum gear legs which have galvanic corrosion with the steel housings, I use liquid wrench and let it sit. If there is no flameable stuff near, I will hit the stuck area with some heat and immediately after add more liquid wrench. Sometimes, it does not work, but ususally it does. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: APilot(at)webtv.net
Date: Jan 07, 2007
Subject: Re: Cabin Heat
To get heat to a pilot in a Kolb, I suggest that the main fuselage tube be plugged because a lot of air comes forward in it because of the vacuum created by the nose cone shape. If you do not plug it, the cold air will blow all of the warm air out of the cockpit. In the winter, I wear a hooded jacket because the cold air hits me in the back of the neck, otherwise. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 07, 2007
From: <jeepacro(at)cox.net>
Subject: Re: Seperating cage from boom tube
What does the rest of the plane look like? Are you flying it? -- Rob. ---- APilot(at)webtv.net wrote: > > When parts do not come apart easily, such as aluminum gear legs which > have galvanic corrosion with the steel housings, I use liquid wrench and > let it sit. If there is no flameable stuff near, I will hit the stuck > area with some heat and immediately after add more liquid wrench. > Sometimes, it does not work, but ususally it does. > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: APilot(at)webtv.net
Date: Jan 07, 2007
Subject: Re: My Apologies
I know little of religion, the bible and those who call themselves and others christians. But, I do know that I have learned a lot from what Mr. Pike has done with his Kolb and every bit of it has turned out to be good advice and true. Thank you again Mr. Pike. The Kolb is a very enjoyable design, thanks to Homer and the little added touches that Mr. Pike and other Kolbers have discovered. These hints and details are very much appreciated by those of us who enjoy getting the most out of our flying machines. This is a good informational site and is and should be devoted to the art of perfecting the Kolb designs and sharing our individual experiences in flying these fun machines. Vic in Sacramento Mk III Classic ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "David Key" <dhkey(at)msn.com>
Subject: Re: My Apologies let it stop list
Date: Jan 08, 2007
I'm skart too >From: Malcolmbru(at)aol.com >Reply-To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com >To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com >Subject: Re: Kolb-List: My Apologies let it stop list Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 > >this is way off topics lets keep it off list. if any one of you respond >poorly to my suggestion I will have you kicked off the list. this is a >definite >no no keep your Christian opinion to your selves. off list. mal ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Dennis Souder" <flykolb(at)pa.net>
Subject: My Apologies let it stop list
Date: Jan 08, 2007
Its ok ... really. The Bible talks about flying, so I think it's a legitmate subjet for this list. Matt 24:20: "Pray that your flight does not take place in winter." Further it probably refers to ultralights, else why the concern for cold weather? And the hereafter? Well, I don't know about you, but many of us are getting older and do start thinking more about the hereafter. Like you walk into your shop (working on your Kolb, of course) and when you get there you ask your self, now what am I here after? Dennis -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Key Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 3:52 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: My Apologies let it stop list I'm skart too >From: Malcolmbru(at)aol.com >Reply-To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com >To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com >Subject: Re: Kolb-List: My Apologies let it stop list Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 > >this is way off topics lets keep it off list. if any one of you respond >poorly to my suggestion I will have you kicked off the list. this is a >definite >no no keep your Christian opinion to your selves. off list. mal ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 08, 2007
From: "Charles Davis" <ceddavis(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Seperating cage from boom tube
Rob - the wings, tail feathers are off. The cage is completely stripped except for sitting on the landing gear. i.e; no seat, covering, fuel tank, engine, nose cone or fabric... Needless to say, it's not flying. :( The consensus seems to be just push it out with a punch or another bolt. Now, if everyone on the list would send me $1000 to help out with the plane... Chuck jeepacro(at)cox.net> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Seperating cage from boom tube What does the rest of the plane look like? Are you flying it? -- Rob. ---- APilot(at)webtv.net wrote: > > When parts do not come apart easily, such as aluminum gear legs which > have galvanic corrosion with the steel housings, I use liquid wrench and > let it sit. If there is no flameable stuff near, I will hit the stuck > area with some heat and immediately after add more liquid wrench. > Sometimes, it does not work, but ususally it does. > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Jeremy Casey" <1planeguy(at)kilocharlie.us>
Subject: What am I Here after/wiring question...
Date: Jan 08, 2007
Its ok ... really. The Bible talks about flying, so I think it's a And the hereafter? Well, I don't know about you, but many of us are getting older and do start thinking more about the hereafter. Like you walk into your shop (working on your Kolb, of course) and when you get there you ask your self, now what am I here after? Dennis Now that walk into the shop and wonder "WHAT AM I HERE AFTER" hits close to home...funny thing is I'm 33...I don't have a chance ;-) On a different note, as some of you know I'm building a little "Superfly" Kolb based plane. (Firestar KXP cage, 22' wings like a Slingshot or Firefly...have 5" spars like a Firefly except more ribs and a single lift strut (Slingshot sized) and a 503. I'm modifying the cage to add a throw-over canopy similar to the slingshot and have added the Firefly flaperon mechanism to help slow it down. I am intending to keep it light and thinking about pulling the GPL starter off the 503 that I have and putting on the pull starter to save some pounds, but I will need a radio. I understand it can be done, but while building and flying these little planes has always been fun and "educational" my knowledge of electricity is limited to "if you let the smoke out it quits working!" Can anyone explain how you power a radio without the battery that would normally be there for the starter? I guess the thinking is if I have to carry a battery for the radio then the starter is just a few more pounds and I'll keep it. Jeremy Casey ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 08, 2007
From: "Robert Laird" <rlaird(at)cavediver.com>
Subject: Re: What am I Here after/wiring question...
Jeremy -- A good ICOM or Vertex handheld radio should be more than adequate for your needs... they have their own battery pack and you can put it in a jacket pocket, and you can plug your headset into them, thus adding 0 lbs 0 oz to your aircraft. The rubber ducky antenna -- assuming you don't have any ignition noise leaks on your plane -- is quite good for airport and plane-to-plane communication. -- Robert On 1/8/07, Jeremy Casey <1planeguy(at)kilocharlie.us> wrote: On a different note, as some of you know I'm building a little "Superfly" Kolb based plane. (Firestar KXP cage, 22' wings like a Slingshot or Firefly...have 5" spars like a Firefly except more ribs and a single lift strut (Slingshot sized) and a 503. I'm modifying the cage to add a throw-over canopy similar to the slingshot and have added the Firefly flaperon mechanism to help slow it down. I am intending to keep it light and thinking about pulling the GPL starter off the 503 that I have and putting on the pull starter to save some pounds, but I will need a radio. I understand it can be done, but while building and flying these little planes has always been fun and "educational" my knowledge of electricity is limited to "if you let the smoke out it quits working!" Can anyone explain how you power a radio without the battery that would normally be there for the starter? I guess the thinking is if I have to carry a battery for the radio then the starter is just a few more pounds and I'll keep it. Jeremy Casey ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org>
Subject: Re: What am I Here after/wiring question...
Date: Jan 08, 2007
Years ago on the Hummer, (Rotax 277) I had no aircraft battery, but did have a BIG capacitor inline from the generic cheapo regulator/rectifier to the radio, (Terra 720 with internal batteries) and it worked really well. The Hummer also had nav lights on the wingtips and tail just to provide a load for the regulator/rectifier. You can probably get the right capacitors at a car stereo shop or maybe even Kmart. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy Casey" <1planeguy(at)kilocharlie.us> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 8:57 AM Subject: Kolb-List: What am I Here after/wiring question... Can anyone explain how you power a radio without the > battery that would normally be there for the starter? I guess the > thinking is if I have to carry a battery for the radio then the starter > is just a few more pounds and I'll keep it. > > Jeremy Casey ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "e.bayliss" <e.bayliss(at)blueyonder.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Seperating cage from boom tube
Date: Jan 08, 2007
Hi all I have often come across motorcycle engine mounting bolts ( where they go right through the crankcases) stuck / corroded into place and believe it or not a good soaking overnight in coke (coca cola the drink not the other type) will often free it up. I believe it is something to do with the mildy acidic properties (or something like that) in the coke.Its worth trying if nothing else moves it Eddie Bayliss (uk) ----- Original Message ----- From: <APilot(at)webtv.net> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 5:11 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Seperating cage from boom tube > > When parts do not come apart easily, such as aluminum gear legs which > have galvanic corrosion with the steel housings, I use liquid wrench and > let it sit. If there is no flameable stuff near, I will hit the stuck > area with some heat and immediately after add more liquid wrench. > Sometimes, it does not work, but ususally it does. > > > -- > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Robbie Robertson" <robbie.robertson(at)mail.com>
Date: Jan 08, 2007
Subject: Re: Seperating cage from boom tube
Happy New Year! Hope all is well with you (a part from this bloddy awful weather that is)... Back from Tenerife and missing the warm sun already. Haven't been to Houghton yet, but I bet it's still as wet as when I left (if not worse). Itching to try out the new prop :o( Are you not on MSN messenger any more? Regards, Robbie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "e.bayliss" <e.bayliss(at)blueyonder.co.uk> > To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Seperating cage from boom tube > Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 18:47:51 -0000 > > > > Hi all > I have often come across motorcycle engine mounting bolts ( where they go > right through the crankcases) stuck / corroded into place and believe it > or not a good soaking overnight in coke (coca cola the drink not the > other type) will often free it up. I believe it is something to do with > the mildy acidic properties (or something like that) in the coke.Its worth > trying if nothing else moves it > Eddie Bayliss > (uk) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <APilot(at)webtv.net> > To: > Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 5:11 AM > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Seperating cage from boom tube > > > > > > When parts do not come apart easily, such as aluminum gear legs which > > have galvanic corrosion with the steel housings, I use liquid wrench and > > let it sit. If there is no flameable stuff near, I will hit the stuck > > area with some heat and immediately after add more liquid wrench. > > Sometimes, it does not work, but ususally it does. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > -- Low Prices, Wide Selection of Gas Masks Everyday low price guarantee. We offer special police discounts and an extremely wide selection of gas masks, filters and huge selection of preparedness gear. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=24e08df2353d2e6cb9bae3a0e3c8c61e ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 08, 2007
From: "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Seperating cage from boom tube
It won't help you get the bolt out, but I have a similar problem with the rocker box studs on my Troublehead Vibraglide.Water seeps and in causes dissimilar metal corrosion. I slobber the studs up with anti sieze compound and the rocker boxes slide right off when required. Rick On 1/8/07, e.bayliss wrote: > > > Hi all > I have often come across motorcycle engine mounting bolts ( where they > go > right through the crankcases) stuck / corroded into place and believe it > or not a good soaking overnight in coke (coca cola the drink not the > other type) will often free it up. I believe it is something to do with > the mildy acidic properties (or something like that) in the coke.Its worth > trying if nothing else moves it > Eddie Bayliss > (uk) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <APilot(at)webtv.net> > To: > Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 5:11 AM > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Seperating cage from boom tube > > > > > > When parts do not come apart easily, such as aluminum gear legs which > > have galvanic corrosion with the steel housings, I use liquid wrench and > > let it sit. If there is no flameable stuff near, I will hit the stuck > > area with some heat and immediately after add more liquid wrench. > > Sometimes, it does not work, but ususally it does. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > -- Rick Girard "Ya'll drop on in" takes on a whole new meaning when you live at the airport. ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Where to mount a strobe
From: "jim" <jim@tru-cast.com>
Date: Jan 08, 2007
I have a single strobe light I need to mount on my Firefly. Is there a "best" or standard place to put it for maximum visibility to other traffic? Thanks, Jim -------- Jim N. Idaho Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=86392#86392 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Rick Pearce" <rap(at)isp.com>
Subject: Re: Tail wheel strut
Date: Jan 08, 2007
John: My tail strut went ahead droke this weekend. I knew it would the way it was bending.Can you go into more detail about the heat treating process? ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 11:29 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Tail wheel strut > > Hi Gang: > > Couple things about tail wheel struts. > > 1-For my own purposes, I find the struts about twice as long as > necessary. The long strut also agrevates the problem with bending, > permanently. > > 2-I use 4130 tail wheel strut. However, I have it heat treated to 48 > RC, which turns it into a spring. Normalized 4130 is very stiff, and > if it bends, it stays bent. > > john h > mkIII > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Tail wheel strut
Date: Jan 08, 2007
Can you go into more detail about the heat treating process? Rick P: I use 4130 heat treated to RC 48. Think it is 3/4 X .120 wall. You can cut the standard length in half and still have enough to do a good job. Any good heating treating plant in your area can do the heat treating for you. john h mkIII ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 08, 2007
From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Wing center section questions
Working through various bits on my new old Ultrastar, and more confusion. 1. I didn't get a center gap seal with the plane; the previous owner flew it without it. I'd like to replace it though... I like the idea of using clear vinyl sheet (the kind convertible back windows are made from), attached with velcro. I'm guessing .080 thick would be right? Does it go all the way to the back on the bottom as well, covering the space behind the cage, or does it end at the front spar on the bottom? Any comments? 2. On my plane, there is a short piece of tubing that slips tightly over the wing leading edge tubes at the center (you slip it onto one, unfold the wings, then slip it back until it overlaps both. I don't see this on the plans nor is it mentioned in the manual, but it does seem it would add rigidity. It also would help support the center gap seal. 3. On a picture of Ron Wehba's plane I can see a center rib that's attached to the cage structure, but again, it's not mentioned on the drawings and I see pictures of other planes that don't seem to have it. Is it stock? TIA, Dana -- -- When I was born I was so surprised I didn't talk for a year and a half. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 08, 2007
From: "David Lehman" <david(at)davidlehman.net>
Subject: Re: Wing center section questions
Dana... I can only speak to item #2... That additional tube is an after thought and an excellent idea... I have the same setup on my Firestar, really stiffens up the leading wing leading edges and, as you said, it supports the gap seal (wrap-around Lexan on mine)... DVD On 1/8/07, Dana Hague wrote: > > > Working through various bits on my new old Ultrastar, and more confusion. > > 1. I didn't get a center gap seal with the plane; the previous owner flew > it without it. I'd like to replace it though... I like the idea of using > clear vinyl sheet (the kind convertible back windows are made from), > attached with velcro. I'm guessing .080 thick would be right? Does it go > all the way to the back on the bottom as well, covering the space behind > the cage, or does it end at the front spar on the bottom? Any comments? > > 2. On my plane, there is a short piece of tubing that slips tightly over > the wing leading edge tubes at the center (you slip it onto one, unfold > the > wings, then slip it back until it overlaps both. I don't see this on the > plans nor is it mentioned in the manual, but it does seem it would add > rigidity. It also would help support the center gap seal. > > 3. On a picture of Ron Wehba's plane I can see a center rib that's > attached to the cage structure, but again, it's not mentioned on the > drawings and I see pictures of other planes that don't seem to have > it. Is > it stock? > > TIA, Dana > -- > -- > When I was born I was so surprised I didn't talk for a year and a half. > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 08, 2007
From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Wing center section questions
At 08:15 PM 1/8/2007, planecrazzzy wrote: >Here's a couple of pictures of the gap seal that I made for mine.... >I didn't make it clear because I sit so far in front of it... > >.PS Oooops I just saw you said Ultrastar....I don't know if these pictures > will help... Hmmm, y'know, I know some people have alum gap seals but I never thought of doing it that way until I saw your pictures, it looks nice. Actually it might work better on the US since the engine's not above the wing, it could be one piece all the way to the trailing edge on top... and I have all this extra aluminum from another project... gotta think about this. -Dana -- -- When I was born I was so surprised I didn't talk for a year and a half. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar(at)gogittum.com>
Subject: Re: Where to mount a strobe
Date: Jan 08, 2007
Here's another idea - this one on a Mk III. The red strobe is from Aircraft Spruce, the chrome mount is a shower pipe cover from Ace Hardware. Lar. Larry Bourne Santa Fe, NM www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "jim" <jim@tru-cast.com> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 1:04 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Where to mount a strobe > > I have a single strobe light I need to mount on my Firefly. Is there a > "best" or standard place to put it for maximum visibility to other > traffic? > > Thanks, > Jim > > -------- > Jim > N. Idaho > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=86392#86392 > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Wing center section questions
Date: Jan 08, 2007
| Hmmm, y'know, I know some people have alum gap seals but I never thought of | doing it that way until I saw your pictures, it looks nice. | | -Dana | Dana: Some of us were using aluminum sheet gap seals in 1984 on our US's. The nylon gap seals did not last long in a UV environment. We had to come up with a good alternative. john h mkIII ________________________________________________________________________________
From: <kfackler(at)ameritech.net>
Subject: Fuel cutoff valve: required or not?
Date: Jan 08, 2007
Gentlemen: If you personally went through the inspection for an airworthiness certificate, particularly if it was for an ELSA, can you tell me whether a fuel cutoff value is required? My friend, Mark, believes that in a 'pump UP' layout such as we have in our Kolbs, that they shouldn't be. Thanks for your input, -Ken Fackler Kolb Mark II / N722KM (reserved but not applied) Rochester MI ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl(at)highstream.net>
Subject: Re: What am I Here after/wiring question...
Date: Jan 09, 2007
!" Can anyone explain how you power a radio without the > battery that would normally be there for the starter? I guess the > thinking is if I have to carry a battery for the radio then the starter > is just a few more pounds and I'll keep it. > > Jeremy Casey > > Jeremy, Call Dick Kuntzleman and order a Radio power supply, they are only a few ounces, I have one in my Loehle powered by a 503. Denny Rowe ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Robbie Robertson" <robbie.robertson(at)mail.com>
Date: Jan 09, 2007
Subject: Re: What am I Here after/wiring question...
Jeremy, you may have already done this, but have you looked at the Rotax Installation manual (assuming your Rotax powered that is) under wiring (see http://www.rotax-aircraft-engines.com/ under documentation), as it shows both battery and no battery configurations, but you would need a regulator... Regards, Robbie (G-MYXS) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl(at)highstream.net> > To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: What am I Here after/wiring question... > Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 01:09:48 -0500 > > > > > > !" Can anyone explain how you power a radio without the > > battery that would normally be there for the starter? I guess the > > thinking is if I have to carry a battery for the radio then the starter > > is just a few more pounds and I'll keep it. > > > > Jeremy Casey > > > > > > > Jeremy, > Call Dick Kuntzleman and order a Radio power supply, they are only > a few ounces, I have one in my Loehle powered by a 503. > > -- Low Prices, Wide Selection of Gas Masks Everyday low price guarantee. We offer special police discounts and an extremely wide selection of gas masks, filters and huge selection of preparedness gear. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=24e08df2353d2e6cb9bae3a0e3c8c61e ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: Trailer
Date: Jan 09, 2007
a FS II with an electric wench,>> Ooooh! What a great idea. Go well with my electric organ.! The debill made me do it Cheers Pat ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 09, 2007
From: Lanny Fetterman <donaho(at)uplink.net>
Subject: Fuel shut off
Hi, Fuel shut off was not required for my inspection. Lanny Fetterman FSII ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 09, 2007
From: possums <possums(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Wing center section questions
At 07:18 PM 1/8/2007, you wrote: > >Working through various bits on my new old Ultrastar, and more confusion. > >1. I didn't get a center gap seal with the plane; Gap seal pictures. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: Fuel cutoff valve: required or not?
Date: Jan 09, 2007
shut off valve>> Hi, When I built my Challenger the requirement was for a cut off valve which could be operated from the cockpit. Unfortunately I forgot it and the inspector who was checking on the building didn`t mention it until the plane was almost finished We contrived a very snazzy system operated through bowden cables which turned a cock fitted on the bulkhead just before the carbs. Cheers Pat ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Trailer
From: "olendorf" <olendorf(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jan 09, 2007
pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com wrote: > a FS II with an electric wench,>> > > Ooooh! What a great idea. Go well with my electric organ.! > > :D Too funny! -------- Scott Olendorf Original Firestar, Rotax 447, Powerfin prop Schenectady, NY http://KolbFirestar.googlepages.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=86532#86532 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Where to mount a strobe
From: "jim" <jim@tru-cast.com>
Date: Jan 09, 2007
Thanks for everybody's input. The pictures were very helpful. -------- Jim N. Idaho Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=86538#86538 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Where to mount a strobe
Date: Jan 09, 2007
From: "Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL" <Dennis.Kirby(at)kirtland.af.mil>
<< I have a single strobe light I need to mount on my Firefly. Is there a "best" or standard place to put it for maximum visibility to other traffic? Thanks, Jim >> Jim - I've heard that mounting your strobe high up on your vertical fin offers the best overall visibility for a single-point location. I mounted my Kuntzleman strobe on the leading edge of the fin, near the top. Dennis Kirby Mark-3, 912ul, Powerfin-72 Cedar Crest, NM ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Chris Wolf <cwolf41(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Question About Dave Pelletier
Date: Jan 09, 2007
Folks, I've been asked a question about Dave Pelletier, and I don't know the answer. I've been asked if Dave Pelletier was an amputee. Since I've never seen a picture of Dave, I don't know the answer. I'd be very much surprised if he was, since I talked to Mike, the night before they went flying, and after he had met Dave. Mike never mentioned that Dave was an amputee, and I think he might have noticed. Can someone tell me for certain? Thanks! Chris Wolf cwolf41(at)comcast.net ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 09, 2007
From: "MR.K.Masonry" <mr.k.masonry(at)verizon.net>
Subject: Kolb trainers/dealers!
Can anyone help me out, I'm looking to get a little stick time in a two place kolb and having trouble finding someone close by. I live In Erie, PA off Lake Erie.I have purchased a single place firestar kxp and need the training to fly my bird. Any info would be Greatly Appreciated! Steve ________________________________________________________________________________
From: WillUribe(at)aol.com
Date: Jan 09, 2007
Subject: Re: Where to mount a strobe
Here is how I mounted my Kuntzleman strobe. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: FS2Kolb(at)aol.com
Date: Jan 09, 2007
Subject: Re: Question About Dave Pelletier
Is it a lawyer asking this question? In a message dated 1/9/2007 10:31:13 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, cwolf41(at)comcast.net writes: I've been asked a question about Dave Pelletier, and I don't know the answer. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "George Thompson" <eagle1(at)commspeed.net>
Subject: Re: Question About Dave Pelletier
Date: Jan 09, 2007
No, He was not an amputee, but he did have but one eye which is not a handicap to flying. Several famous flyers had but one eye. Wiley Post for one. Az Bald Eagle From: "Chris Wolf" <cwolf41(at)comcast.net> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 10:26 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Question About Dave Pelletier > > > Folks, > > I've been asked a question about Dave Pelletier, and I don't know the > answer. I've been asked if Dave Pelletier was an amputee. Since I've > never seen a picture of Dave, I don't know the answer. I'd be very much > surprised if he was, since I talked to Mike, the night before they went > flying, and after he had met Dave. Mike never mentioned that Dave was an > amputee, and I think he might have noticed. > > Can someone tell me for certain? Thanks! > > Chris Wolf > cwolf41(at)comcast.net > > > -- > 1:37 PM > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 09, 2007
Subject: Re: Where to mount a strobe
From: "Jim Dunn" <jim@tru-cast.com>
It looks like the top of the v stab is where the overwhelming majority put the stobe. I think I'll be putting it there too. Thanks for your response. Jim Dunn N. Idaho > > > > << I have a single strobe light I need to mount on my Firefly. Is there > a "best" or standard place to put it for maximum visibility to other > traffic? Thanks, Jim >> > > Jim - > > I've heard that mounting your strobe high up on your vertical fin offers > the best overall visibility for a single-point location. I mounted my > Kuntzleman strobe on the leading edge of the fin, near the top. > > Dennis Kirby > Mark-3, 912ul, Powerfin-72 > Cedar Crest, NM > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Chris Wolf <cwolf41(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Question About Dave Pelletier
Date: Jan 09, 2007
>Is it a lawyer asking this question? No. The sister of Mike Maikowski, who died in the crash with Dave, heard a rumor that Dave Pelletier was an amputee. She couldn't understand how an amputee could be a pilot. I'm not sure just what the FAA's stand is on amputee pilots. I figured it was just a crazy rumor, about Dave, and I wanted to put it to rest. Chris Wolf cwolf41(at)comcast.net ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: U.S. Sport Aviation Expo 2007 Sebring FL
From: "George Alexander" <gtalexander(at)att.net>
Date: Jan 09, 2007
The U.S. Sport Aviation Expo 2007 (Click Here) (http://www.sport-aviation-expo.com/) is at Sebring, FL this weekend. (January 11-14) Several Kolb list folks have indicated that they plan to be there on Saturday, Jan 13. If there are others and you would be interested if we could pull together an informal gathering, send me an email directly ( gtalexander(at)att.net ) with some contact info (cell no, email, pager, etc...) and I will try coordinate a meet. Wear something Kolb or carry a bent gear leg so we can ID you. -------- George Alexander http://gtalexander.home.att.net Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=86609#86609 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Chris Wolf <cwolf41(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Question About Dave Pelletier
Date: Jan 09, 2007
> >No, He was not an amputee, but he did have but one eye which is not a >handicap to flying. Several famous flyers had but one eye. Wiley Post for >one. > Az Bald Eagle That's probably how the rumor got started. A missing eye becomes a missing arm or leg. Thanks for clearing that up. Chris Wolf cwolf41(at)comcast.net ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Question for Chris Wolf
Date: Jan 09, 2007
From: "Gherkins Tim-rp3420" <rp3420(at)freescale.com>
Chris, You mentioned that you have not seen a picture of Dave. We have not seen a picture of your best friend Mike. Can I talk you into posting one on the list? Regards, Tim Gherkins FSII www.milows.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Wolf Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 1:02 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Question About Dave Pelletier >--> > >No, He was not an amputee, but he did have but one eye which is not a >handicap to flying. Several famous flyers had but one eye. Wiley Post >for one. > Az Bald Eagle That's probably how the rumor got started. A missing eye becomes a missing arm or leg. Thanks for clearing that up. Chris Wolf cwolf41(at)comcast.net ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "George Thompson" <eagle1(at)commspeed.net>
Subject: Re: Question About Dave Pelletier
Date: Jan 09, 2007
They can be however. They can check out in Ercoupes and be a private pilot. Az Bald Eagle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Wolf" <cwolf41(at)comcast.net> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 1:00 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Question About Dave Pelletier > > >>Is it a lawyer asking this question? > > No. The sister of Mike Maikowski, who died in the crash with Dave, heard > a > rumor that Dave Pelletier was an amputee. She couldn't understand how an > amputee could be a pilot. I'm not sure just what the FAA's stand is on > amputee pilots. > > I figured it was just a crazy rumor, about Dave, and I wanted to put it to > rest. > > Chris Wolf > cwolf41(at)comcast.net > > > -- > 1:37 PM > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Malcolmbru(at)aol.com
Date: Jan 09, 2007
Subject: Re: Kolb trainers/dealers!
no problem, forget about it, I tough my self to fly a kxp after only 46 hrs in a quicksilverMX and 2 hrs of touch and go,s in a C 150 just be careful you will be fine mal ________________________________________________________________________________
From: russ kinne <kinnepix(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Question About Dave Pelletier
Date: Jan 09, 2007
Can someone please tell The Sister to check out Wheelchair Pilots International? I think they're still functioning -- On Jan 9, 2007, at 4:47 PM, George Thompson wrote: > > > They can be however. They can check out in Ercoupes and be a > private pilot. > Az Bald Eagle > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Wolf" <cwolf41(at)comcast.net> > To: > Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 1:00 PM > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Question About Dave Pelletier > > >> >> >>> Is it a lawyer asking this question? >> >> No. The sister of Mike Maikowski, who died in the crash with >> Dave, heard a >> rumor that Dave Pelletier was an amputee. She couldn't understand >> how an >> amputee could be a pilot. I'm not sure just what the FAA's stand >> is on >> amputee pilots. >> >> I figured it was just a crazy rumor, about Dave, and I wanted to >> put it to >> rest. >> >> Chris Wolf >> cwolf41(at)comcast.net >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> 1:37 PM >> > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: WillUribe(at)aol.com
Date: Jan 09, 2007
Subject: Re: Question About Dave Pelletier
Chris, There is a local pilot flying a modified Cessna 210 with hand controls, he can't use the foot controls. Regards, Will Uribe > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Wolf" <_cwolf41(at)comcast.net_ (mailto:cwolf41(at)comcast.net) > > To: <_kolb-list(at)matronics.com_ (mailto:kolb-list(at)matronics.com) > > Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 1:00 PM > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Question About Dave Pelletier > > >> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Chris Wolf <_cwolf41(at)comcast.net_ (mailto:cwolf41(at)comcast.net) > >> >> >>> Is it a lawyer asking this question? >> >> No. The sister of Mike Maikowski, who died in the crash with Dave, >> heard a rumor that Dave Pelletier was an amputee. She couldn't >> understand how an amputee could be a pilot. I'm not sure just what >> the FAA's stand is on amputee pilots. >> >> I figured it was just a crazy rumor, about Dave, and I wanted to put >> it to rest. >> >> Chris Wolf >> _cwolf41(at)comcast.net_ (mailto:cwolf41(at)comcast.net) ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Fuel Bubbles caused by Fuel Filter, Which filter do you use?
From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com>
Date: Jan 09, 2007
I am having intermittent fuel bubbles that I think are being caused by my fuel filter. Attached are two pictures, the first shows the lines with no bubbles, but the filter always runs with just a little fuel in the bottom. Picture #2 shows the bubbles that intermittently go out of the filter, there are lots of them and they are big. I never see bubbles in the intake to the filter... The hose fittings to the filter are perfect, and I beleive the air is comming from around the large part of the filter where the joint is. I like this clear filter that lets me see what is going on, but it if is cheap and prone to leaks I will switch to another type. What filters do you guys like to use for the 912-S ? Mike Bigelow -------- "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=86660#86660 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/fuellinebubbles1_165.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/fuelfilter_434.jpg ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Where to mount a strobe
From: "jim" <jim@tru-cast.com>
Date: Jan 09, 2007
About now I wish I lived farther south. We've had 4 bouts of storm-force winds, twice over 60mph peak gusts 69mph (I'm glad I have a hangar rated for 90mph). Last Sunday I spent 3 hours plowing snow then ran out of daylight and couldn't fly. I'm off the next 5 days and hope to fly-fly-fly, although winds are forcast 20k tonight & Thu. -------- Jim N. Idaho Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=86664#86664 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org>
Subject: Re: Fuel Bubbles caused by Fuel Filter, Which filter do you
use?
Date: Jan 09, 2007
Any way you can mount the filter so that no air can collect in it? Like have the inlet side to the bottom, and the outlet side at the top? And then see what happens? Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420Poops) ----- Original Message ----- From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 6:43 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Fuel Bubbles caused by Fuel Filter, Which filter do you use? > > I am having intermittent fuel bubbles that I think are being caused by my > fuel filter. Attached are two pictures, the first shows the lines with > no bubbles, but the filter always runs with just a little fuel in the > bottom. Picture #2 shows the bubbles that intermittently go out of the > filter, there are lots of them and they are big. I never see bubbles in > the intake to the filter... The hose fittings to the filter are perfect, > and I beleive the air is comming from around the large part of the filter > where the joint is. > > I like this clear filter that lets me see what is going on, but it if is > cheap and prone to leaks I will switch to another type. What filters do > you guys like to use for the 912-S ? > > Mike Bigelow > > -------- > "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you > could have !!! > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=86660#86660 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/fuellinebubbles1_165.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/fuelfilter_434.jpg > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Kolb trainers/dealers!
From: "Don G" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
Date: Jan 09, 2007
I got my first rating at Spartan back in 75...I have not accumulated as much time in those 30 plus years as alot of fellas, but I have been at the Helm of alot of different birds From Weedhoppers to Beech 18s..and even got a little time in a Lockheed P-38...back when you could rent one. (Yes...there is only one thing more thrilling than running the throttle on an Allison....and thats wrapping your fist around 2 of em!) Still, after I built a Kolb...I just didnt feel I had the experience to safely test fly it without at least a ride in one with a competent pilot. Maybe I could have handled it ok....Maybe not. I will say that upon retrospect, It was the first pusher I had attempted with such a high thrust line...and it was...and still is a little unusual in the handling dept when you work the throttle up and down. A very different response on the airframe than anything I had ever had the opportunity to command. Not bad mind you, just different. I also know how hard it is to set around and look at newly aquired airplane waiting to get a checkride. I was lucky to find a sky gypsy flying a Kolb who was passing thru and he was good enough to give me a ride. I am real glad he did...that FireFly probably would not have killed me...but I could have easily bent it and hurt myself in the process. Alot of the FAA's rules are good ones and created with safety in mind. The Check ride rule I think is about the best one. It may not legally apply to non-regulated air vehicles, but that does not mean its not a good idea. I have no problem recommending at least a check ride to anyone who has not flown a Kolb....or any unfamiliar design. It is what I did...would do...and will do again when I want to try something new. It doesnt cost much and cannot hurt a thing..compared to what the risk is. Stay safe...someone might be depending on you for something you need to be healthy to accomplish. Thanks again to that old flying Gypsy! -------- Don G FireFly#098 http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=86676#86676 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Rick Pearce" <rap(at)isp.com>
Subject: Bummer
Date: Jan 09, 2007
I got my call from the FAA today on my inspection. Next May is the soonest he can get to it. Of course I can go hire a DAR at $500 to do my inspection. I've allready waited 3 month on the registration. I talked to a guy the other day & it took him longer to get the plane registered & flying than it took to build. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: APilot(at)webtv.net
Date: Jan 09, 2007
Subject: Re: Kolb trainers/dealers!
The FAA has good programs. Check rides are a good idea and have saved many an airplane and pilot. However, I have found nothing wrong with self check outs. Yes, they take many hours of taxing and later crow hop etc. But, if you are expert in ground handling, then there is little left to learn when airborne. Landings and takeoffs are situations where ground handling is important. I now have over 40 hours in my Kolb Mark III Classic and only 18 hours of flight time. I learned and have taught ground loops in Cubs, Citabrias, Chiefs and Kolbs. Ground loops are bad, but controlled ground loops are very good practice for the real thing. The Kolbs are forgiving airplanes, but they are still to be respected. The answer to safety is practice, practice, practice. Like Bob Hoover once admitted that he had 37 controlled crashes (that was about 20 or more years ago). He tried to impart the importance of planning ahead. Learn your airplane because they all fly somewhat differently. Know it's limitations and enjoy the beauty of flight safely. Flying in a Kolb is one of the most beautiful ways to enjoy the true essence of the beauty of flight. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Rick Pearce" <rap(at)isp.com>
Subject: Trottle cables 912ULS
Date: Jan 09, 2007
I'm haveing trouble with my trottle cable wanting to buckle instead of go back to idle. You are fighting the springs that want to go full trottle on the carbs and the drag in the cable system. The 1/16" cable that comes stock with the plane wants bend right at the swivel on the trottle. My buddy with the Highlander went & spent $150 for a heavy duty 1/8" cable to solve his problem. He also disconected the springs on the carbs. How has other people with Kolbs flying the 912's solved this problem? Rick Pearce Kolb MK3C ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "LEE CREECH" <dcreech3(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: Ignition noise leaks
Date: Jan 09, 2007
QUOTE FROM ROBERT LAIRD: "A good ICOM or Vertex handheld radio should be more than adequate for your needs... The rubber ducky antenna -- assuming you don't have any ignition noise leaks on your plane -- is quite good for airport and plane-to-plane communication." This leads me off on a tangent about the "ignition noise leaks". My handheld Yuasa worked okay in my 503-powered Firestar II for years, but then got so that when I transmit, all I seem to put out is engine noise. (Reception is still okay). I had the radio overhauled with no improvement. Could something have changed about the engine -- i.e., an "ignition noise leak" that wasn't there before? If this is a possibility, what should I look for? Lee _________________________________________________________________ >From photos to predictions, The MSN Entertainment Guide to Golden Globes has it all. http://tv.msn.com/tv/globes2007/?icid=nctagline1 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Trottle cables 912ULS
Date: Jan 09, 2007
I'm haveing trouble with my trottle cable wanting to buckle instead of go back to idle. Rick Pearce Kolb MK3C Been flying 912 and the S on my mkIII since 1994. Never had a problem. I use one short cable from throttle to splitter under the left seat. The two long cables, one to each carb. Try to keep my curves as large as possible. Grease the cables before I put the system together. john h mkIII ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 09, 2007
From: <jeepacro(at)cox.net>
Subject: Re: Bummer
This is exactly why I fly UL's now. I'm sick of having to jump through the hoop's....Good luck! -- Rob. ---- Rick Pearce wrote: > I got my call from the FAA today on my inspection. Next May is the soonest he can get to it. Of course I can go hire a DAR at $500 to do my inspection. I've allready waited 3 month on the registration. I talked to a guy the other day & it took him longer to get the plane registered & flying than it took to build. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 09, 2007
From: Charlie England <ceengland(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Bummer
Rick Pearce wrote: > I got my call from the FAA today on my inspection. Next May is the > soonest he can get to it. Of course I can go hire a DAR at $500 to do > my inspection. I've allready waited 3 month on the registration. I > talked to a guy the other day & it took him longer to get the plane > registered & flying than it took to build. This is a long shot, but call EAA & ask if there is a Homebuilt DAR in your area. This is a relatively new program so there aren't many out there yet. However, if you can find one nearby all they can charge is expenses. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 09, 2007
From: "Robert Laird" <rlaird(at)cavediver.com>
Subject: Re: Ignition noise leaks
Well, sure... your spark plug wires/caps will decay over time and cause radio noise leaks (and other bad stuff). Your grounding could be degrading... all kinds of possibilities, unfortunately. -- Robert On 1/9/07, LEE CREECH wrote: > > > QUOTE FROM ROBERT LAIRD: "A good ICOM or Vertex handheld radio should be > more than adequate for your needs... The rubber ducky antenna -- > assuming > you don't have any ignition noise leaks on your plane -- is quite good for > airport and plane-to-plane communication." > > This leads me off on a tangent about the "ignition noise leaks". My > handheld Yuasa worked okay in my 503-powered Firestar II for years, but > then > got so that when I transmit, all I seem to put out is engine noise. > (Reception is still okay). I had the radio overhauled with no > improvement. > Could something have changed about the engine -- i.e., an "ignition noise > leak" that wasn't there before? If this is a possibility, what should I > look for? > > Lee > > _________________________________________________________________ > >From photos to predictions, The MSN Entertainment Guide to Golden Globes > has > it all. http://tv.msn.com/tv/globes2007/?icid=nctagline1 > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Ignition noise leaks
Date: Jan 09, 2007
| Could something have changed about the engine -- i.e., an "ignition noise | leak" that wasn't there before? If this is a possibility, what should I | look for? | | Lee Lee: A couple neglected items: 1-antenna coax cable. Make sure it is in good shape, as well as the BNC connectors. Check it out with a good multimeter. 2-headset. I blamed my buddys' poor radios for my inability to hear them clearly. Come to find out my headset wire was inop. Changed headsets to the DRE6000 ANR and my radio problems went away. john h mkIII ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Chris Wolf <cwolf41(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Question for Chris Wolf
Date: Jan 09, 2007
> >Chris, > >You mentioned that you have not seen a picture of Dave. We have not >seen a picture of your best friend Mike. Can I talk you into posting >one on the list? > >Regards, >Tim Gherkins >FSII >www.milows.com Can do. Excellent idea. Photo is attached. Mike loved to fly more than anyone I've ever known. After all the rough weather and rougher terrain he and I successfully navigated over the last 36 years, I can't believe he died while doing touch and goes in a plane equipped with a ballistic parachute under perfect weather conditions at a local airport. It's like hearing that Chuck Yeager slipped on a banana peel and was killed. Chris Wolf cwolf41(at)comcast.net ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Question About Dave Pelletier
Date: Jan 09, 2007
From: riquenkelly(at)aol.com
You might be interested to hear, one of my friends is flying MH-53's in the Air Force. he lost his leg below the knee in combat action. He flies with a prosthetic and recently took over as the commander of his squadron. He could run circles around me any day. Shows you what determination can do. Cheers, Rique -----Original Message----- From: WillUribe(at)aol.com Sent: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 6:00 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Question About Dave Pelletier Chris, There is a local pilot flying a modified Cessna 210 with hand controls, he can't use the foot controls. Regards, Will Uribe > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Wolf" <cwolf41(at)comcast.net> > To: > Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 1:00 PM > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Question About Dave Pelletier > > >> >> >>> Is it a lawyer asking this question? >> >> No. The sister of Mike Maikowski, who died in the crash with Dave, >> heard a rumor that Dave Pelletier was an amputee. She couldn't >> understand how an amputee could be a pilot. I'm not sure just what >> the FAA's stand is on amputee pilots. >> >> I figured it was just a crazy rumor, about Dave, and I wanted to put >> it to rest. >> >> Chris Wolf >> cwolf41(at)comcast.net ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 10, 2007
From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Question About Dave Pelletier
At 11:15 PM 1/9/2007, riquenkelly(at)aol.com wrote: >You might be interested to hear, one of my friends is flying MH-53's in >the Air Force. he lost his leg below the knee in combat action. He flies >with a prosthetic and recently took over as the commander of his >squadron. He could run circles around me any day. Shows you what >determination can do. Don't forget Douglas Bader, who lost both legs in a crash in the 1930's but went on to become one of the leading aces of the Battle of Britian. -Dana -- -- A seminar on Time Travel will be held two weeks ago. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 10, 2007
From: "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Trottle cables 912ULS
Rick, Are your cables of 1 X 19 construction? Much stiffer when pushing a control than cable of finer wire. Rick On 1/9/07, Rick Pearce wrote: > > I'm haveing trouble with my trottle cable wanting to buckle instead of go > back to idle. You are fighting the springs that want to go full trottle on > the carbs and the drag in the cable system. The 1/16" cable that comes stock > with the plane wants bend right at the swivel on the trottle. My buddy with > the Highlander went & spent $150 for a heavy duty 1/8" cable to solve his > problem. He also disconected the springs on the carbs. How has other people > with Kolbs flying the 912's solved this problem? Rick Pearce Kolb MK3C > > * > > > * > > -- Rick Girard "Ya'll drop on in" takes on a whole new meaning when you live at the airport. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 10, 2007
From: "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Ignition noise leaks
Lee, Did you accidentally get B8ES plugs instead of BR8ES? Have you got the metal caps on your spark plugs? Is your handheld run off batteries or ships power? Rick On 1/9/07, LEE CREECH wrote: > > > QUOTE FROM ROBERT LAIRD: "A good ICOM or Vertex handheld radio should be > more than adequate for your needs... The rubber ducky antenna -- > assuming > you don't have any ignition noise leaks on your plane -- is quite good for > airport and plane-to-plane communication." > > This leads me off on a tangent about the "ignition noise leaks". My > handheld Yuasa worked okay in my 503-powered Firestar II for years, but > then > got so that when I transmit, all I seem to put out is engine noise. > (Reception is still okay). I had the radio overhauled with no > improvement. > Could something have changed about the engine -- i.e., an "ignition noise > leak" that wasn't there before? If this is a possibility, what should I > look for? > > Lee > > _________________________________________________________________ > >From photos to predictions, The MSN Entertainment Guide to Golden Globes > has > it all. http://tv.msn.com/tv/globes2007/?icid=nctagline1 > > -- Rick Girard "Ya'll drop on in" takes on a whole new meaning when you live at the airport. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 10, 2007
From: "David Lehman" <david(at)davidlehman.net>
Subject: Re: Ignition noise leaks
A friend of mine had the same problem with a 503 and Icom handheld... Icom told him that the handheld is very voltage sensitive and wouldn't handle the higher voltage the regulator was putting out... He installed some kind of resister and the Icom transmitted perfectly... DVD On 1/9/07, LEE CREECH wrote: > > > QUOTE FROM ROBERT LAIRD: "A good ICOM or Vertex handheld radio should be > more than adequate for your needs... The rubber ducky antenna -- > assuming > you don't have any ignition noise leaks on your plane -- is quite good for > airport and plane-to-plane communication." > > This leads me off on a tangent about the "ignition noise leaks". My > handheld Yuasa worked okay in my 503-powered Firestar II for years, but > then > got so that when I transmit, all I seem to put out is engine noise. > (Reception is still okay). I had the radio overhauled with no > improvement. > Could something have changed about the engine -- i.e., an "ignition noise > leak" that wasn't there before? If this is a possibility, what should I > look for? > > Lee > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: APilot(at)webtv.net
Date: Jan 10, 2007
Subject: Re: radios, capacitor and observations on dead stick
Do you have flaps on your airplane? 500 ft loss in a 180 degree turn is lot. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: radios, capacitor and observations on dead stick
Date: Jan 10, 2007
Nope, It is very good if it is a mile wide 180. It just proves incomplete info is useless. On Jan 10, 2007, at 8:39 AM, APilot(at)webtv.net wrote: > > Do you have flaps on your airplane? 500 ft loss in a 180 degree > turn is > lot. > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Thom Riddle <jtriddle(at)adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb trainers/dealers!
Date: Jan 10, 2007
Steve, I know there are several Kolbs in western NY, just up the road a bit from you, some of which are two-seaters. I do not know all of them but Bob Bean, an active member on this list who flies a MkIII knows of most of the Kolbs in our area. He may or may not be able to help you out. I know right now he is in Jupiter, FL for a week of R&R and off the list while until he gets back. Find one of his past posts and send him a direct email and see what he says. Although I taught myself to fly an early Firestar I had many recent hours in sorta-similar airplanes and have self-taught myself to fly several, getting some stick time in a Kolb is a smart and safe approach. You did not mention what you have been flying recently. That can make a difference in how much dual Kolb time you are likely to need. Let us know how your Kolb dual time search goes. Thom in Buffalo ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 10, 2007
From: "David Lehman" <david(at)davidlehman.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb trainers/dealers!
Thom, nice article you did in the Sport Pilot magazine... DVD On 1/10/07, Thom Riddle wrote: > > > Steve, > > I know there are several Kolbs in western NY, just up the road a bit > from you, some of which are two-seaters. I do not know all of them but > Bob Bean, an active member on this list who flies a MkIII knows of most > of the Kolbs in our area. He may or may not be able to help you out. I > know right now he is in Jupiter, FL for a week of R&R and off the list > while until he gets back. Find one of his past posts and send him a > direct email and see what he says. > > Although I taught myself to fly an early Firestar I had many recent > hours in sorta-similar airplanes and have self-taught myself to fly > several, getting some stick time in a Kolb is a smart and safe > approach. You did not mention what you have been flying recently. That > can make a difference in how much dual Kolb time you are likely to > need. > > Let us know how your Kolb dual time search goes. > > Thom in Buffalo > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: WhiskeyVictor36(at)aol.com
Date: Jan 10, 2007
Subject: Re: Seperating cage from boom tube
In a message dated 1/7/2007 4:09:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, ceddavis(at)gmail.com writes: some cage damage HEY CHUCK, You didn't say what caused the damage! : >( Bill Varnes Original Kolb FireStar Audubon NJ Do Not Archive ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Travis Brown (Kolb Aircraft)" <travis(at)tnkolbaircraft.com>
Subject: Re: Question About Dave Pelletier
Date: Jan 10, 2007
We have several customers flying with hand controls only. Travis @ Kolb ----- Original Message ----- From: riquenkelly(at)aol.com To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 11:15 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Question About Dave Pelletier You might be interested to hear, one of my friends is flying MH-53's in the Air Force. he lost his leg below the knee in combat action. He flies with a prosthetic and recently took over as the commander of his squadron. He could run circles around me any day. Shows you what determination can do. Cheers, Rique -----Original Message----- From: WillUribe(at)aol.com To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 6:00 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Question About Dave Pelletier Chris, There is a local pilot flying a modified Cessna 210 with hand controls, he can't use the foot controls. Regards, Will Uribe > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Wolf" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 1:00 PM > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Question About Dave Pelletier > > >> >> >>> Is it a lawyer asking this question? >> >> No. The sister of Mike Maikowski, who died in the crash with Dave, >> heard a rumor that Dave Pelletier was an amputee. She couldn't >> understand how an amputee could be a pilot. I'm not sure just what >> the FAA's stand is on amputee pilots. >> >> I figured it was just a crazy rumor, about Dave, and I wanted to put >> it to rest. >> >> Chris Wolf >> cwolf41(at)comcast.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 10, 2007
From: "David Lehman" <david(at)davidlehman.net>
Subject: Re: Bummer
Rick... Where are you located?... DVD On 1/9/07, Rick Pearce wrote: > > I got my call from the FAA today on my inspection. Next May is the > soonest he can get to it. Of course I can go hire a DAR at $500 to do my > inspection. I've allready waited 3 month on the registration. I talked to a > guy the other day & it took him longer to get the plane registered & flying > than it took to build. > > * > * > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell(at)fmtcblue.com>
Subject: radios, capacitor and observations on dead stick
Date: Jan 10, 2007
Maybe if I flew in the Winter , Over a frozen lake I could do some experimenting without worry....I guess you've got alot of flat desert below Do you have flaps on your airplane? 500 ft loss in a 180 degree turn is lot. Nope, It is very good if it is a mile wide 180. It just proves incomplete info is useless. I think the reason that I lost so much altitude in my turn was because I was in a mush condition. As I said in my earlier post, I found it a lot more difficult than I thought it would be to maintain adequate air speed. My tendency was to fly it the same way and attitude as when the motor was running. This is not what was needed. (I recall once over the Alvord Desert, I did some dead stick landings trying to find out which speed would give me the longest glide. I did two four mile glides, one at 45 mph the other at 55. The actual landing spot was less than 100 yards apart.) As I said in my earlier post, I found myself doing between 40 and 45. Not what I wanted and definitely in a mush, still controllable, but mush none the less. As for being able to land on the flat desert- well you aren't going to run into anything, but the result will still be upside down. Two foot high sage is not very forgiving. It is true that the info is incomplete, the only thing that I learned is that I didn't know as much about the situation as I thought I did, and that I am going to learn more. One thing that I have found over the last year is that when the fan isn't running and the situation is critical, I have a tendency to do what I have been doing. In other words my actions become automatic. So in that case the actions need to be practiced until the proper evasive action takes place. I actually did a 360 turn, started at 1000 agl. The first 180 was a lot flatter, I think because I was a lot more comfortable with the altitude, and I flew it better (faster). The second was the eye opener, where I found myself looking at the ground and subconsciously pulling more elevator, thus losing more altitude. The turns were tight as they would be if I were in a take off condition. You will never be able to get complete information, unless we can talk Jack into making it. :-) Larry, Oregon ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Question for Chris Wolf
Date: Jan 10, 2007
The ballistic parachute probably could not have been deployed from such a low altitude since they were likely trying to fly the plane. There is a delayed reaction to realizing you need to pull the handle and they didn't have much time. | | Jim Jim: The ballistic parachute handle can be pulled at any time prior to impact. Never give up until you are finished crashing. I have one save at 250 feet AGL and another at 500 feet AGL with a Jim Handbury hand deployed parachute. The BRS deploys much faster than my hand tossed model did. john h mkIII PS: One of my favorite photos of Arizona Dave. Thanks. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 10, 2007
Subject: My Apologies let it stop list
From: jam-n <jghunter(at)nol.net>
>now what am I here after? then u realize that it is there... after. well, once u remember and since couldnt find it, u realize that when here after... it is always there after... u remeber. for its always the last place we look. well, so it seems. lol regards ~barnstormer~ ok to archive, BUT prob best not to... > >Its ok ... really. The Bible talks about flying, Well, I don't know about you, but many of us are getting>older and do start thinking more about the hereafter. Like you walk into>your shop (working on your Kolb, of course) and when you get there you ask>your self, now what am I here after? > >Dennis > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: HShack(at)aol.com
Date: Jan 10, 2007
Subject: Re: radios, capacitor and observations on dead stick
In a message dated 1/10/2007 8:40:38 AM Eastern Standard Time, APilot(at)webtv.net writes: Do you have flaps on your airplane? 500 ft loss in a 180 degree turn is lot. Yeah, I can do it in 200 ft. in my FSII [barely}. Howard Shackleford FS II SC ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 10, 2007
From: possums <possums(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: radios, capacitor and observations on dead stick
At 07:16 AM 1/10/2007, you wrote: > >Good info on the 180 ....Thanks > >I'm not ready to turn off the key in flight , So your info will be >in the back of my mind... > >Maybe if I flew in the Winter , Over a frozen lake I could do some >experimenting without worry....I guess you've got alot of flat desert below > >Gotta Fly... It's like riding a bicycle no worries mate,....and this was on a bumpy day. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9177096133625180462&hl=en ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Chris Wolf <cwolf41(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Question for Chris Wolf
Date: Jan 10, 2007
> >Chris, > >Sorry about your loss! Thanks for posting the photo of Mike. Yes, it is >very hard to understand how this accident happened under perfect >conditions with 2 very experienced pilots. We may never know exactly what >happened. I think this should be a lesson to all of us to always be on >our guard, even in the most perfect conditions. The ballistic parachute >probably could not have been deployed from such a low altitude since they >were likely trying to fly the plane. There is a delayed reaction to >realizing you need to pull the handle and they didn't have much time. I think you're probably right. Apparently the accident happened only a few hundred feet up. By the time they realized they were in real trouble, they were probably striking the ground. The only way to hope to save yourself in such a situation is to pull the handle the moment the plane even threatens to go out of control, and that's not really practical under normal piloting conditions. You'd be pulling the handle every time you hit turbulence, or a thermal. Mike and I flew a powered parachute (PPC) for six years before deciding to get a Kolb. As an old skydiver whose life was saved twice by my reserve parachute, I'm a firm believer in backup parachutes. When we got our PPC, I insisted on putting a ballistic parachute on it. I think it was the only PPC in the world equipped with a ballistic parachute. Most PPC pilots think they don't need a ballistic parachute, since they already have a parachute wing over their heads. Which is something I completely disagree with. Any flying machine can fall out of the sky, and can benefit from a backup parachute. Whenever Mike and I flew our PPC, the guy on the ground would watch the PPC's wing from the moment of takeoff, until the machine reached an altitude of one thousand feet. That way, if anything went seriously wrong, the guy on the ground would see it before the pilot, and could radio a warning to the pilot to immediately fire the ballistic parachute. We never even came close to using the ballistic parachute, but both Mike and I were always ready to use it at a moment's notice. When Mike called me from Arizona, on Sunday night, to tell me that Dave's plane was equipped with a ballistic parachute, I was delighted. I've often wondered if I had been there, on Monday morning, while Mike and Dave were flying, and had been watching the plane take off, if I might have had time to radio a warning to them if I saw the plane going out of control, in time for them to fire the rocket. Probably not. By the time of the accident they would have been flying for several hours, and I probably would have been off somewhere, getting myself a cup of coffee. And even if I was there, watching them take off, by the time I realized they were definitely in trouble, it probably would have been too late for the ballistic parachute to do any good. Still, I'll always wonder. Was I not there for my buddy when he needed me? Would my presence have made a difference? These are the questions that still haunt me. >Here is a picture of Dave since you said you had not seen a picture of him. >Best of luck to you! Thanks very much, Jim. Chris Wolf cwolf41(at)comcast.net ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org>
Subject: Re: Ignition noise leaks
Date: Jan 10, 2007
Since you are using resistor plugs, that is not likely the problem. (I do not use resistor plugs, and have no ignition noise problems. Another thread...) There are several sources for electrical noise. All of them center around wires carrying alternating current to somewhere in the cockpit or near the antenna. DC wires do not normally carry anything that makes noise. The easiest way to get rid of radio noise is to shield any wires carrying A/C, like kill switches and tach. For your kill switch wires, try using microphone cable. Typically, it is two or three wires inside a tinfoil or woven shield. Ground one end of the shield to the engine, do not ground the other end of the shield. Same for the tach. If your Key West is a long way from the engine, then your unshielded A/C wires are acting as an antenna between the engine and the Key West. Shield those wires and ground them at the engine end, especially if they are close to the antenna. If the noise rises and falls as you rev the engine, then it might be ignition, but in my experience, ignition is a small component of overall radio noise. Most of the noise comes from wires in the harness that are carring alternating current from within the magneto, typically the tach and kill switch wires. If you are using an external antenna, consider switching to a rubber duck. Experiment with the external antenna grounded/ungrounded to the airframe and see if anything changes. And when using the radio seperate from the aircraft power supply, make sure the radio batteries are hot. Let us know what you find out - got to build up the database ya' know... Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) ----- Original Message ----- From: "LEE CREECH" <dcreech3(at)hotmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 9:47 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Ignition noise leaks My handheld Yuasa worked okay in my 503-powered Firestar II for years, but then got so that when I transmit, all I seem to put out is engine noise. (Reception is still okay). I had the radio overhauled with no improvement. Could something have changed about the engine -- i.e., an "ignition noise leak" that wasn't there before? If this is a possibility, what should I look for? - Type equipment on board?- It doesn't have much. No battery, starter or strobe, just a Key West rectifier/regulator which powers the handheld and GPS. I do use BR8ES resistor plugs. Unplugging the radio from ship's power doesn't improve matters. Lee ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 10, 2007
From: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart(at)onlyinternet.net>
Subject: Re: Ignition noise leaks
> >For your kill switch wires, try using microphone cable. Typically, it is two >or three wires inside a tinfoil or woven shield. Ground one end of the >shield to the engine, do not ground the other end of the shield. Same for >the tach. Lee, I found most of my problems stemmed from the kill switch wires. After I put the kill switches back on the engine and activated them with woven fish line, I had no ignition noise in the radio. Shielding as Richard states will be a big help and may be easier than moving the kill switches. You may want to use very small coax cable. It might be a little lighter. Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Steven Green" <Kolbdriver(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Trottle cables 912ULS
Date: Jan 10, 2007
Rick, The cable should be in tension when going to idle, not pushing. Steven Green ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick Pearce To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 9:56 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Trottle cables 912ULS I'm haveing trouble with my trottle cable wanting to buckle instead of go back to idle. You are fighting the springs that want to go full trottle on the carbs and the drag in the cable system. The 1/16" cable that comes stock with the plane wants bend right at the swivel on the trottle. My buddy with the Highlander went & spent $150 for a heavy duty 1/8" cable to solve his problem. He also disconected the springs on the carbs. How has other people with Kolbs flying the 912's solved this problem? Rick Pearce Kolb MK3C ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: radios, capacitor and observations on dead stick
From: "Don G" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
Date: Jan 10, 2007
Great Video Possums!.. Shows how good a Kolb flies with a fella sitting on the horizontal, one hand wrapped around the rudder..holding the camera! :) -------- Don G FireFly#098 http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=86850#86850 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 10, 2007
From: possums <possums(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: radios, capacitor and observations on dead stick
At 08:46 PM 1/10/2007, you wrote: > >Great Video Possums!.. >Shows how good a Kolb flies with a fella sitting on the horizontal, >one hand wrapped around the rudder..holding the camera! :) > >-------- >Don G >FireFly#098 Well .... I put a saddle on the boom tube for anyone that wants a ride. ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Transition aircraft -> to Kolb Firestar
From: "John H Murphy" <jhm9812(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Jan 10, 2007
This is forum has a wealth of information. I've been going through most of the old posts. Thanks to all that have contributed. My question: I have a Firestar that I yet to fly. Any recommendations as to a aircraft to get some transition time in prior to flying my Kolb? Ideally it would be a Kolb two seater w. dual controls. I live near Las Vegas, NV/Boulder City, NV, Henderson, NV. The chances of finding someone with a Kolb that would mind giving me some air time seems remote. I guess my question is what aircraft comes close to the characteristics of the Kolb that is commonly found in the aviation community? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=86863#86863 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "LEE CREECH" <dcreech3(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Ignition noise leaks
Date: Jan 10, 2007
The wiring harness that includes the kill switch and tach wires does in fact run near the radio, (along the bottom left side of the cockpit) but that didn't seem to be an issue until SOMETHING changed. Lee >From: "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org> >Reply-To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com >To: >Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Ignition noise leaks >Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 18:15:29 -0500 > > >Since you are using resistor plugs, that is not likely the problem. >(I do not use resistor plugs, and have no ignition noise problems. Another >thread...) >There are several sources for electrical noise. All of them center around >wires carrying alternating current to somewhere in the cockpit or near the >antenna. DC wires do not normally carry anything that makes noise. The >easiest way to get rid of radio noise is to shield any wires carrying A/C, >like kill switches and tach. >For your kill switch wires, try using microphone cable. Typically, it is >two or three wires inside a tinfoil or woven shield. Ground one end of the >shield to the engine, do not ground the other end of the shield. Same for >the tach. >If your Key West is a long way from the engine, then your unshielded A/C >wires are acting as an antenna between the engine and the Key West. Shield >those wires and ground them at the engine end, especially if they are close >to the antenna. > >If the noise rises and falls as you rev the engine, then it might be >ignition, but in my experience, ignition is a small component of overall >radio noise. Most of the noise comes from wires in the harness that are >carring alternating current from within the magneto, typically the tach and >kill switch wires. > >If you are using an external antenna, consider switching to a rubber duck. >Experiment with the external antenna grounded/ungrounded to the airframe >and see if anything changes. And when using the radio seperate from the >aircraft power supply, make sure the radio batteries are hot. >Let us know what you find out - got to build up the database ya' know... > >Richard Pike >MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > > >----- Original Message ----- From: "LEE CREECH" <dcreech3(at)hotmail.com> >To: >Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 9:47 AM >Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Ignition noise leaks > > >My handheld Yuasa worked okay in my 503-powered Firestar II for years, but >then got so that when I transmit, all I seem to put out is engine noise. >(Reception is still okay). I had the radio overhauled with no improvement. >Could something have changed about the engine -- i.e., an "ignition noise >leak" that wasn't there before? If this is a possibility, what should I >look for? >- Type equipment on board?- >It doesn't have much. No battery, starter or strobe, just a Key West >rectifier/regulator which powers the handheld and GPS. I do use BR8ES >resistor plugs. Unplugging the radio from ship's power doesn't improve >matters. >Lee > > _________________________________________________________________ Find sales, coupons, and free shipping, all in one place! MSN Shopping Sales & Deals http://shopping.msn.com/content/shp/?ctid=198,ptnrid=176,ptnrdata 0639 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 11, 2007
From: Lanny Fetterman <donaho(at)uplink.net>
Subject: Transition aircraft
John M. I took dual in a Maxair drifter, it flew very much the same as the Kolb FSII. Lanny Fetterman N598LF ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 11, 2007
Subject: Re: Trottle cables 912ULS
From: rap(at)isp.com
> Steve: Kind Of hard to do on the 912 since the carbs are spring load for full trottle. Rick, > > The cable should be in tension when going to idle, not pushing. > > Steven Green > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Rick Pearce > To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com > Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 9:56 PM > Subject: Kolb-List: Trottle cables 912ULS > > > I'm haveing trouble with my trottle cable wanting to buckle instead of > go back to idle. You are fighting the springs that want to go full > trottle on the carbs and the drag in the cable system. The 1/16" cable > that comes stock with the plane wants bend right at the swivel on the > trottle. My buddy with the Highlander went & spent $150 for a heavy duty > 1/8" cable to solve his problem. He also disconected the springs on the > carbs. How has other people with Kolbs flying the 912's solved this > problem? Rick Pearce Kolb MK3C > > ----------------------------------------- ________________________________________________________________________________
From: APilot(at)webtv.net
Date: Jan 11, 2007
Subject: Re: DRE-6000
Re: Quieter environment in a Mk III......Have you installed any lexan or sound absorbing material behind your head? ________________________________________________________________________________
From: <kfackler(at)ameritech.net>
Subject: Finding a DRE-6000
Date: Jan 11, 2007
Okay, I'm pretty convinced based on the comments here that a DRE-6000 is for me. But where do I get one? I've been searching the net and it seems they're discontinued virtually everywhere. -Ken Fackler Kolb Mark II / A722KWF Rochester MI ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 11, 2007
From: chris davis <capedavis(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Transition aircraft -> to Kolb Firestar
John, I see you live in Nevada perhaps there are glider schools near you? If you cant find a 2 place Kolb I would recomend a Schwitzer 2-33 , the mos t comman glider trainer I learned to fly in one while I was building my KXP and had no problem transitioning to the Kolb from the 2-33, When I had an engine out later on there was no panic as the KXP flys beautiful with engin e out .Just my 2 cents .Chris Davis=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AF rom: John H Murphy =0ATo: kolb-list(at)matronics.com=0ASent : Wednesday, January 10, 2007 10:37:47 PM=0ASubject: Kolb-List: Transition H Murphy" =0A=0AThis is forum has a wealth of informati on. I've been going through most of the old posts. Thanks to all that have contributed. My question: I have a Firestar that I yet to fly. Any recommen dations as to a aircraft to get some transition time in prior to flying my Kolb? Ideally it would be a Kolb two seater w. dual controls. I live near L as Vegas, NV/Boulder City, NV, Henderson, NV. The chances of finding someon e with a Kolb that would mind giving me some air time seems remote. I guess my question is what aircraft comes close to the characteristics of the Kol b that is commonly found in the aviation community?=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=8686 =========0A=0A=0A =0A______________________________________ ______________________________________________=0ACheap talk?=0ACheck out Ya ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 11, 2007
From: "Vic Peters" <vicsvinyl(at)verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Trottle cables 912ULS
> " I'm haveing trouble with my trottle cable wanting to buckle instead of > go back to idle. You are fighting the springs that want to go full > trottle on the carbs and the drag in the cable system" The throtle cable is in tension whether or not the carb lever is spring loaded to idle or full. Do like John said- grease it baby, lightly. While you have it out check to see if one cable strand ( very hard to see) is bent back after rethreading at one time or another. It happened to me! Keep your loops large before and after splitter. My cable pull force was high so I greased everything one part at a time to see why. Everything worked great until I threaded the last end where that one strand fetched up! Vic 912 Exrta Maine ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 11, 2007
From: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart(at)onlyinternet.net>
Subject: Re: Ignition noise leaks
> >The wiring harness that includes the kill switch and tach wires does in fact >run near the radio, (along the bottom left side of the cockpit) but that >didn't seem to be an issue until SOMETHING changed. > Lee, Try another headset. May be a ground shield has broken loose. My radio has an automatic noise reduction feature. Check to see if yours is inadvertently turned off. Borrow a different radio and try it to see if it picks up the same noise. If so, you know it is not your radio. Etc. The only way to find out what it is to eliminate possibilities until the cause becomes obvious. Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 11, 2007
From: chris davis <capedavis(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Transition aircraft
test=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: Lanny Fetterman <donaho@up link.net>=0ATo: kolb-list(at)matronics.com=0ASent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 6:54:38 AM=0ASubject: Kolb-List: Transition aircraft=0A=0A=0A--> Kolb-List message posted by: Lanny Fetterman =0A=0A John M. I took dual in a Maxair drifter, it flew very much the same as =0Athe Kolb F =============0A=0A=0A =0A__________________________ .yahoo.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Steven Green" <Kolbdriver(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Trottle cables 912ULS
Date: Jan 11, 2007
Rick, My throttle cable pulls the throttle to idle. The springs on the carbs. take it to full throttle when tension is relaxed on the cable. Steven MkIII 912S N58SG > > > Steve: Kind Of hard to do on the 912 since the carbs are spring load for > full trottle. > Rick, > > > > The cable should be in tension when going to idle, not pushing. > > > > Steven Green > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Rick Pearce > > To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com > > Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 9:56 PM > > Subject: Kolb-List: Trottle cables 912ULS > > > > > > I'm haveing trouble with my trottle cable wanting to buckle instead of > > go back to idle. You are fighting the springs that want to go full > > trottle on the carbs and the drag in the cable system. The 1/16" cable > > that comes stock with the plane wants bend right at the swivel on the > > trottle. My buddy with the Highlander went & spent $150 for a heavy duty > > 1/8" cable to solve his problem. He also disconected the springs on the > > carbs. How has other people with Kolbs flying the 912's solved this > > problem? Rick Pearce Kolb MK3C > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: NAVMAN Fuel Flow meter
Date: Jan 11, 2007
| does any one know where to purchase one now? | | Ellery Ellery: Here are two places to get one: http://www3.shopping.com/xDN-marine_electronics-navman_2100_fuel~r-1~CLT-INTR~RFR-www.google.com $113.99 ain't bad. I'd like to have one, if I could figure out where to mount it. john h ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: NAVMAN Fuel Flow meter
Date: Jan 11, 2007
the Navman 2100 fuel flow meter Here's a better description and not a bad price. I did not know this little gadget had so much capability. http://www.jandhproducts.com/product.asp?pf_id=14956 john h mkIII ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Malcolmbru(at)aol.com
Date: Jan 11, 2007
Subject: Re: Red Bull
red bull is owned buy a real aviation lover they come to our ultralight fly inn's and show video's and hand out free drink, s mal ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Fuel Bubbles caused by Fuel Filter, Which filter do you
use?
From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com>
Date: Jan 11, 2007
I could try turning the filter on end. I am really wondering if the bubbles are being cuased by a leak in the seam of filter itself, or if its just vapor being drawn out from the gasoline as the fuel pump is above the filter. I have read several cases in the archives about filters running with air in them, but I dont know if they were running 90 % air inside them like mine is. EGT's are good, and the engine has never shown any signs of being lean... If there is a problem, I dont want to wait until the engine quits to figure it out ! Michael A. Bigelow -------- "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=86998#86998 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Transition aircraft -> to Kolb Firestar
From: "John H Murphy" <jhm9812(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Jan 11, 2007
I've had several people e-mail with the suggestion of doing high speed taxi runs on a long runway. The idea is to get up off the deck a couple of feet and bring her down. After enough practice of these enough high speed runs..take off. Any comments on this? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=87016#87016 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 12, 2007
From: Bob Noyer <a58r(at)verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Transition aircraft -> to Kolb Firestar
John, This form of training, Crow Hopping, is great, IF you already have flying experience, It's not a good ida for the novice because all of a sudden he's 10' up, and can't figger out how to land! regards, Bob N. FireFly 070 Old Kolb http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/ ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 12, 2007
From: Lanny Fetterman <donaho(at)uplink.net>
Subject: Transition aircraft
John, I agree with Bob, It all depends on what flying skills you already have. IMO it`s cheaper and easier to get some dual time, then it is to replace landing gear and bent cage tubes. As they say, don`t ask me how I know ! Lanny Fetterman N598LF ________________________________________________________________________________
From: APilot(at)webtv.net
Date: Jan 12, 2007
Subject: Re: Transition aircraft -> to Kolb Firestar
Re: High speed taxi..........they can be dangerous. It is easier in a tricycle gear airplane. Kolbs are easy to fly for a tail dragger, but they are still tail draggers and required caution. Some practice on a flight simulator might help. I like the J-3 Cub on Microsoft's FS 2004 simulator. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 12, 2007
From: "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Transition aircraft -> to Kolb Firestar
John, In a tricycle gear airplane high speed taxiing is no big deal. In a tail dragger, even one as nicely mannered as a Kolb, welllllllllll, hmmmm. I'm not an expert by any stretch, but I'd go with the nays. The reason is pretty simple. While the tires are still touching the ground a taildragger is unstable because the CG is behind the main gear. Cross winds and ham handed control inputs can put you out of control too quickly to recover. Once those tires leave the ground stability returns and you are much safer. Rick On 1/11/07, John H Murphy wrote: > > > I've had several people e-mail with the suggestion of doing high speed > taxi runs on a long runway. The idea is to get up off the deck a couple of > feet and bring her down. After enough practice of these enough high speed > runs..take off. Any comments on this? > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=87016#87016 > > -- Rick Girard "Ya'll drop on in" takes on a whole new meaning when you live at the airport. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 12, 2007
From: "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com>
Subject: VA humor
A Letter FROM A FARM KID, (NOW AT SAN DIEGO MARINE CORPS RECRUIT TRAINING) Dear Ma and Pa, I am well. Hope you are. Tell Brother Walt and Brother Elmer the Marine Corps beats working for old man Minch by a mile. Tell them to join up quick before all of the places are filled. I was restless at first because you got to stay in bed till nearly 6 a.m. but I am getting so I like to sleep late. Tell Walt and Elmer all you do before breakfast is smooth your cot, and shine some things. No hogs to slop, feed to pitch, mash to mix, wood to split, fire to lay. Practically nothing. Men got to shave but it is not so bad, there's warm water. Breakfast is strong on trimmings like fruit juice, cereal, eggs, bacon, etc., but kind of weak on chops, potatoes, ham, steak, fried eggplant, pie and other regular food, but tell Walt and Elmer you can always sit by the two city boys that live on coffee. Their food plus yours holds you until noon when you get fed again. It's no wonder these city boys can't walk much. We go on "route marches," which the platoon sergeant says are long walks to harden us. If he thinks so, it's not my place to tell him different. A "route march" is about as far as to our mailbox at home. Then the city guys get sore feet and we all ride back in trucks. The country is nice but awful flat . The sergeant is like a school teacher. He nags a lot. The Captain is like the school board. Majors and Colonels just ride around and frown. They don't bother you none. This next will kill Walt and Elmer with laughing. I keep getting medals for shooting. I don't know why. The bulls-eye is near as big as a chipmunk head and don't move, and it ain't shooting at you like the Higgett boys at home. All you got to do is lie there all comfortable and hit it. You don't even load your own cartridges. They come in boxes. Then we have what they call hand-to-hand combat training. You get to wrestle with them city boys. I have to be real careful though, they break real easy. It ain't like fighting with that ole bull at home. I'm about the best they got in this except for that Tug Jordan from over in Silver Lake. I only beat him once. He joined up the same time as me, but I'm only 5'6" and 130 pounds and he's 6'8" and near 300 pounds dry. Be sure to tell Walt and Elmer to hurry and join before other fellers get onto this setup and come stampeding in. Your loving daughter, Alice -- Rick Girard "Ya'll drop on in" takes on a whole new meaning when you live at the airport. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: WillUribe(at)aol.com
Date: Jan 12, 2007
Subject: Re: Transition aircraft -> to Kolb Firestar
John, I have 300 hours on my FireStar II and I wouldn't do it, too scary for me. Regards, Will Uribe FireStar II N4GU El Paso, TX but working in Sonora, Mexico _http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/_ (http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/) (mailto:jhm9812(at)yahoo.com) > I've had several people e-mail with the suggestion of doing high speed taxi runs on a long runway. The idea is to get up off the deck a couple of feet and bring her down. After enough practice of these enough high speed runs..take off. Any comments on this? ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Trottle cables 912ULS
Date: Jan 12, 2007
From: "Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL" <Dennis.Kirby(at)kirtland.af.mil>
<< My cable pull force was high so I greased everything one part at a time ... Vic >> Vic - What kind of grease did you use for the throttle cables? Dennis Kirby New Mexico ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 12, 2007
From: possums <possums(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Trottle cables
At 11:07 AM 1/12/2007, you wrote: ><< My cable pull force was high so I greased everything one part at a >time ... Vic >> > >Vic - What kind of grease did you use for the throttle cables? > >Dennis Kirby You can lubricate your choke and throttle cables without taking them off the carbs. Part # 7435 CABLE LUBER SYSTEM - $17.95 "Prevent cable freezing and extend cable life by lubricating cable with the "Cable Luber" system. Special precision machined lube block allows ease of lubrication between cable and housing without removing the cable. Just attach the Cable Luber to either end of the cable and insert nozzle from aerosol can. Specially designed seals in block force lube down inside cable housing. A must for the serious mechanic. Cable Life Aerosol lubricates and rustproofs moving parts even at temperatures far below -50 degrees. Buy it at a Motorcycle shop ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Keith Callfas" <kkcmax(at)msn.com>
Subject: Re: Transition aircraft -> to Kolb Firestar
Date: Jan 12, 2007
thats how you wreck a good plane its the worst part of tacking off and landing at high speed near ground in normal opp. you speed up /slow down very quickley with high speed taxis you are at risk to have some thing go wrong at a fast speed for much longer get instruction in a light tail dragger piper taylorcraft kolb drifter ect. it will save you money and plane repairs from stalls ground loops ect airplanes are not toys they can and haved killed and in a kolb you can be 100 feet off the ground before you know you left >From: "John H Murphy" <jhm9812(at)yahoo.com> >Reply-To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com >To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com >Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Transition aircraft -> to Kolb Firestar >Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 21:13:06 -0800 > > >I've had several people e-mail with the suggestion of doing high speed taxi >runs on a long runway. The idea is to get up off the deck a couple of feet >and bring her down. After enough practice of these enough high speed >runs..take off. Any comments on this? > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=87016#87016 > > _________________________________________________________________ Type your favorite song. Get a customized station. Try MSN Radio powered by Pandora. http://radio.msn.com/?icid=T002MSN03A07001 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: flymichigan(at)comcast.net
Subject: Firestar w/ Trailer For Sale
Date: Jan 13, 2007
Hey guys, I have decided to sell my firestar I. it has the 7 rib wings, so it could become a Firestar II quite easily. beautiful plane, needs nothing. pics on Barnstormers.com. $9500.00 Bryan Dever ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 12, 2007
Subject: Mark 3 Xtra for Sale
From: Robert Mason <masonclan(at)sbcglobal.net>
I am posting this to the list before going to Barnstormers. I must sell my Mark 3 Xtra and trailer. Check out the photos. http://web.mac.com/ladyluck/iWeb/kolbplane_ForSale/ ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Kolbdriver" <kolbdriver(at)mlsharp.com>
Subject: Mark 3 Xtra for Sale
Date: Jan 12, 2007
Perhaps I missed it, How much are you asking???? Where are you located? Mike _____ From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert Mason Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 8:00 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Mark 3 Xtra for Sale I am posting this to the list before going to Barnstormers. I must sell my Mark 3 Xtra and trailer. Check out the photos. http://web.mac.com/ladyluck/iWeb/kolbplane_ForSale/ ________________________________________________________________________________
From: APilot(at)webtv.net
Date: Jan 12, 2007
Subject: Re: Trottle cables 912ULS
I have used teflon grease that I had on hand that I bought from the trailer supply store. It is white and seems to work pretty good. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: APilot(at)webtv.net
Date: Jan 12, 2007
Subject: Re: Little details....
Question: How did you know that you needed airleron counterbalances? Vic in Sacramento ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Arksey(at)aol.com
Date: Jan 13, 2007
Subject: Re: Fuel Bubbles caused by Fuel Filter, Which filter do
you use? hi michael, attended a seminar today at the sport expo in sebring on rotax 2 cyle....they recommend wire mesh filter rather than paper.....also wonder how you are coming on hks installlation..... jim swan firestar ll 503 michigan...florida for winter. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 13, 2007
From: possums <possums(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Little details....
At 11:57 PM 1/12/2007, you wrote: > >Question: How did you know that you needed airleron counterbalances? >Vic in Sacramento At 85 mph - depending on you're set up. If you've got really balanced controls, maybe 90 mph - lucky you. Well....the first thing that happens is the "stick" starts shaking so hard that you can't hold on to it any more and then there's this God Awful sound....but it's over with pretty quick, cause the aileron controls or the aileron hinges fracture in just a few seconds. So you gotta land with the just the rudder and elevator. Kick right to raise the left wing, kick left to raise the right. etc. Don't need those stinking ailerons anyway - right? Really, they are there to stop all "the above" from happening before it ever gets started. And they work. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: APilot(at)webtv.net
Date: Jan 13, 2007
Subject: Re: Little details....
Once in a Michell B-10 Wiing, I had a very low rumbling sound and some stick shaking. It was a weird feeling. It came at about 55 mph. I cut the power and immediiately raised the nose and it stopped. I have not been over 100 mph in my Mark III Classic and, so far, no shaking. Wonder if many Kolbers have added counterbalances to their ailerons. Not a bad idea, but they are not mentioned in my plans. Vic in Sacramento ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com>
Subject: Monument valley Red Bull
Date: Jan 13, 2007
Hi All, I have had a mate of mine in the US checking for confirmation about the RED BULL Races. He reports that he can find nothing on the web or through sports calendars. He then rang Gouldings and was answered by a girl who knew nothing of any Red Bull Races. I think that any organisation like Red Bull must have major events like the Air Race fixtures set by now. 5 months is not enough lead time, so I am crossing my fingers and going ahead with my holiday bookings. See you there, as John said `God willing and the creek don`t rise` Pat ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 13, 2007
From: "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Little details....
Vic, My Mk 3 got very mild flutter as low as 70 mph. At 80 it was much more like Possum describes, but the hinge failures didn't happen, thank the dear Lord. Even if you get no failures, it pretty much ruins your flying day and possibly a pair of shorts. Talk to Travis and get them put on, you'll really like your airplane a whole lot better. Rick On 1/13/07, APilot(at)webtv.net wrote: > > > Once in a Michell B-10 Wiing, I had a very low rumbling sound and some > stick shaking. It was a weird feeling. It came at about 55 mph. I cut > the power and immediiately raised the nose and it stopped. I have not > been over 100 mph in my Mark III Classic and, so far, no shaking. > Wonder if many Kolbers have added counterbalances to their ailerons. > Not a bad idea, but they are not mentioned in my plans. Vic in > Sacramento > > -- Rick Girard "Ya'll drop on in" takes on a whole new meaning when you live at the airport. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Rick Pearce" <rap(at)isp.com>
Subject: Re: Trottle cables 912ULS
Date: Jan 13, 2007
Richard: I don't know for sure what the cable is it is the stock throttle cable that came with the Kolb kit. 1/16" dia.How is your throttle cable set up? You are running a 912 aren't you? ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Girard To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 6:36 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Trottle cables 912ULS Rick, Are your cables of 1 X 19 construction? Much stiffer when pushing a control than cable of finer wire. Rick On 1/9/07, Rick Pearce < rap(at)isp.com> wrote: I'm haveing trouble with my trottle cable wanting to buckle instead of go back to idle. You are fighting the springs that want to go full trottle on the carbs and the drag in the cable system. The 1/16" cable that comes stock with the plane wants bend right at the swivel on the trottle. My buddy with the Highlander went & spent $150 for a heavy duty 1/8" cable to solve his problem. He also disconected the springs on the carbs. How has other people with Kolbs flying the 912's solved this problem? Rick Pearce Kolb MK3C http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List http://forums.matronics.com -- Rick Girard "Ya'll drop on in" takes on a whole new meaning when you live at the airport. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Rick Pearce" <rap(at)isp.com>
Subject: Re: Ignition noise leaks
Date: Jan 13, 2007
I used BRE8S plugs for a while on my last ultralight and had alot higher plug failure rate than the B8ES plugs. Lucky all the failures were on the ground. Scared me off the resator plugs. Rick Pearce MK3C ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Girard To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 6:59 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Ignition noise leaks Lee, Did you accidentally get B8ES plugs instead of BR8ES? Have you got the metal caps on your spark plugs? Is your handheld run off batteries or ships power? Rick On 1/9/07, LEE CREECH wrote: QUOTE FROM ROBERT LAIRD: "A good ICOM or Vertex handheld radio should be more than adequate for your needs... The rubber ducky antenna -- assuming you don't have any ignition noise leaks on your plane -- is quite good for airport and plane-to-plane communication." This leads me off on a tangent about the "ignition noise leaks". My handheld Yuasa worked okay in my 503-powered Firestar II for years, but then got so that when I transmit, all I seem to put out is engine noise. (Reception is still okay). I had the radio overhauled with no improvement. Could something have changed about the engine -- i.e., an "ignition noise leak" that wasn't there before? If this is a possibility, what should I look for? Lee _________________________________________________________________ -- Rick Girard "Ya'll drop on in" takes on a whole new meaning when you live at the airport. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Rick Pearce" <rap(at)isp.com>
Subject: Re: Bummer
Date: Jan 13, 2007
SouthEast Kansas Wichita Gato office ----- Original Message ----- From: David Lehman To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 10:10 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Bummer Rick... Where are you located?... DVD On 1/9/07, Rick Pearce wrote: I got my call from the FAA today on my inspection. Next May is the soonest he can get to it. Of course I can go hire a DAR at $500 to do my inspection. I've allready waited 3 month on the registration. I talked to a guy the other day & it took him longer to get the plane registered & flying than it took to build. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org>
Subject: Re: Ignition noise leaks
Date: Jan 13, 2007
I'm with you. If the electrical system is done right, resistor plugs don't really help the radio much, and considering the small spark plug gap that Rotax calls for, the spark plugs apparently need all the energy they can get, not more resistance. Yet Rotax specifies them, and lots of people use them, so what do I know? Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick Pearce To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 9:21 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Ignition noise leaks I used BRE8S plugs for a while on my last ultralight and had alot higher plug failure rate than the B8ES plugs. Lucky all the failures were on the ground. Scared me off the resator plugs. Rick Pearce MK3C ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "David Key" <dhkey(at)msn.com>
Subject: pitot tube
Date: Jan 13, 2007
Where can I get a pitot tube? I've found droves of big ones and heated ones for GA planes but can't seem to locate just a simple tube. I've bought one before but can't find it again. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org>
Subject: Re: pitot tube
Date: Jan 13, 2007
NAPA. Ask for 1/4" OD steel brake line, length as appropriate. Cut off the flared ends and use a tubing bender to get the curve you want. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Key" <dhkey(at)msn.com> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 10:10 AM Subject: Kolb-List: pitot tube > > Where can I get a pitot tube? I've found droves of big ones and heated > ones for GA planes but can't seem to locate just a simple tube. I've > bought one before but can't find it again. > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 13, 2007
From: "Robert Laird" <rlaird(at)cavediver.com>
Subject: Re: Navman 2100 or miZer scam
Couple of years ago, I asked around about this... The Mizer people claim that their transducer (i.e., the device that the gas actually flows through) is better than the one that comes with the Navman device. They claimed the Navman had a higher differential pressure between the incoming and outgoing flow and that that could make a difference. Now, I used a Navman for 2 years in a RANS S12XL w/ 503 without a single blip, so even if Mizer does have a better transducer, I don't think it's necessary for our installations. More importantly, if they are TRULY using a better transducer, then they may be justified in raising the price. Then the decision is our as to whether the better transducer is worth the extra money. In my opinion, it's not, which is why I bought a Navman for my Kolb. -- Robert P.S. A fuel flow meter, in my humble opinion, while not a critical instrument like an air speed indicator or CHT gauge, it ranks right up there with the 2nd layer of important instruments. I had a situation with my RANS that was very subtle, once caused an engine-out on climb-out (no resulting damage) and would have been impossible to figure out had I not had the Navman in place. By seeing that, only in high flow situations, my fuel flow wasn't what it had been and should be, I was able to narrow down the problem to my electric fuel pump. Turned out one of the check valve balls in it got stuck and was restricting the flow, but during most situations, it wasn't noticeable. Only once, during a full-throttle climb-out, did I use up more fuel than could be supplied, and thus the engine-out. There were a few times when I was flying straight-and-level at full throttle that it seems the engine wasn't quite getting ample fuel (a microsecond hesitation, from time to time), and the Navman helped me figure it out. I highly recommend you put one in your UL/LSA, if you at all can. On 1/13/07, planecrazzzy wrote: > > > Hi guys, > Just thought I would archive this, maybe help somebody from > getting scammed by Aircraft Spruce..... I like them, but this little stunt > really ticks me off.... ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 13, 2007
From: "David Lehman" <david(at)davidlehman.net>
Subject: Re: Bummer
Sorry Rick, can't help you there, hoping you were closer... DVD On 1/13/07, Rick Pearce wrote: > > SouthEast Kansas Wichita Gato office > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* David Lehman > *To:* kolb-list(at)matronics.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 10, 2007 10:10 AM > *Subject:* Re: Kolb-List: Bummer > > Rick... > > Where are you located?... > > DVD > > > On 1/9/07, Rick Pearce wrote: > > > > I got my call from the FAA today on my inspection. Next May is the > > soonest he can get to it. Of course I can go hire a DAR at $500 to do my > > inspection. I've allready waited 3 month on the registration. I talked to a > > guy the other day & it took him longer to get the plane registered & flying > > than it took to build. > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: Sport pilot ?
Date: Jan 13, 2007
I got it all figured out now.>> I hope Larson doesn`t sue! Cheers Pat ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 13, 2007
From: Charlie England <ceengland(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: pitot tube
Or to keep it light, just make it from 1/4" aluminum tubing. Van's RV-x's just use a standard aviation flare fitting on the bottom of the wing with a short length of tubing bent at a right angle to get below the high pressure under the wing & then point forward into the airstream. Richard Pike wrote: > > NAPA. Ask for 1/4" OD steel brake line, length as appropriate. Cut off > the flared ends and use a tubing bender to get the curve you want. > > Richard Pike > MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Key" <dhkey(at)msn.com> > To: > Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 10:10 AM > Subject: Kolb-List: pitot tube > > >> >> Where can I get a pitot tube? I've found droves of big ones and >> heated ones for GA planes but can't seem to locate just a simple >> tube. I've bought one before but can't find it again. > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 13, 2007
From: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart(at)onlyinternet.net>
Subject: Re: NAVMAN Fuel Flow meter
> PS Jack Hart....Take a look at the sticker on the top side.... > Mike, This discussion has come up in the past. See: http://www.matronics.com/searching/getmsg_script.cgi?INDEX=46892124?KEYS=navman?LISTNAME=Kolb?HITNUMBER=17?SERIAL=1027005802?SHOWBUTTONS=YES Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 13, 2007
From: Bob Noyer <a58r(at)verizon.net>
Subject: Re: pitot tube
If you stick yer pitot tube out the front of the nose bowl, put a small pc. of plastic tube as a transition pc between the short end coming out, and the longer pitot part. This way the pitot won't break if some little fingers wiggle it, or a coat grab it passing by. regards, Bob N. FireFly 070 Old Kolb http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/ ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "George Myers" <gmyers(at)grandecom.net>
Subject: pitot tube
Date: Jan 13, 2007
Go to your local AC/Heating supplier. They sell about a 2ft roll of 1/4 OD aluminum tubing. Works Great. > >> Where can I get a pitot tube? I've found droves of big ones and > >> heated ones for GA planes but can't seem to locate just a simple > >> tube. I've bought one before but can't find it again. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: APilot(at)webtv.net
Date: Jan 13, 2007
Subject: Re: pitot tube
A piece of alum tubing stuck in the nose is what I plug the pitot line into from the airspeed indicator. The static port is now routed to just about a foot back from the instrument panel about where the negative pressure from the nose cone and the positive pressure from the fuselage tube meet. It seems to be pretty accurate now. Before, I routed the static port line, I use to get an airspeed error of about 3 mph at stall and about a 7 mph at cruise due to the building vacuum caused by the shape of the nose, doors and windshield. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: WillUribe(at)aol.com
Date: Jan 13, 2007
Subject: Navman 2100 or miZer scam
Hi Mike, I was looking at your picture and noticed you had a EIS. Just wondering why didn't you get the fuel flow/gauge option with your EIS? I have it on my FireStar and it work great. Regards, Will Uribe FireStar II N4GU El Paso, TX but working in Sonora, Mexico _http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/_ (http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/) ________________________________________________________________________________
From: APilot(at)webtv.net
Date: Jan 13, 2007
Subject: Re: Navman 2100 or miZer scam
Re: Gas quantity. In my Mark III Classic, I can see the fuel level in the starboard tank, so I made fuel selector valves to direct the fuel injection return line to either tank. So, when the fuel level gets low in the starboard tank I run off some from the port tank. When the port tank is empty, I can see how much fuel that is left. Not fancy, but it works. Also, I carry a small mirror for seeing things behind me such as elevator and rudder movement and other traffic. It also helped in trimming the flaps and ailerons to be able to see them under flight loads. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: APilot(at)webtv.net
Date: Jan 13, 2007
Subject: Re: Bummer
Too bad that you are not near Reno. The FAA office there has a very helpful inspector named Don Morgan. He is a credit to the FAA and is appreciated by many experimental and sport aircraft builders in the California and Nevada areas. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: APilot(at)webtv.net
Date: Jan 13, 2007
Subject: Re: Little details....
I will talk to Travis about the counter balancers for the ailerons. One reason that I have not, as yet, had aileron flutter is because I set my ailerons up slightly to get some reflex in the wing. That adds a small down load on them at higher speeds. I do not know where the neutral load is, but I would guess it is about 5 mph above stall speed. My fears are with high speed flutter. In fact, now that I think about it, my Mk III acts kind of funny just above stall speed. Maybe that is why because aileron movement will aggravate yaw. Next time that I get that funny feeling, I will look out at the ailerons and see if they are moving. In some flight testing films on flutter, sometimes the flutter cannot be seen and the control surface just leaves the aircraft. It is a bad situation. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Kolbdriver" <kolbdriver(at)mlsharp.com>
Subject: pitot tube
Date: Jan 13, 2007
Aircraft Spruce has one that is simple and less than $20 bucks Al tube with Flange for mounting.. http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/inpages/pitot15144.php There is no pic but it looks like this one except there are 2 tubes, Static and Pressure.. http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/inpages/unheatedptubes4.php Mike -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charlie England Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 12:15 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: pitot tube Or to keep it light, just make it from 1/4" aluminum tubing. Van's RV-x's just use a standard aviation flare fitting on the bottom of the wing with a short length of tubing bent at a right angle to get below the high pressure under the wing & then point forward into the airstream. Richard Pike wrote: > > NAPA. Ask for 1/4" OD steel brake line, length as appropriate. Cut off > the flared ends and use a tubing bender to get the curve you want. > > Richard Pike > MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Key" <dhkey(at)msn.com> > To: > Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 10:10 AM > Subject: Kolb-List: pitot tube > > >> >> Where can I get a pitot tube? I've found droves of big ones and >> heated ones for GA planes but can't seem to locate just a simple >> tube. I've bought one before but can't find it again. > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: david(at)davidlehman.net
Subject: Bummer
Date: Jan 13, 2007
Or Fresno... Sent from my SDA phone... -----Original Message----- From: APilot(at)webtv.net Sent: 1/13/2007 12:29 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Bummer Too bad that you are not near Reno. The FAA office there has a very helpful inspector named Don Morgan. He is a credit to the FAA and is appreciated by many experimental and sport aircraft builders in the California and Nevada areas. .. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Mark II Xtra update
Date: Jan 14, 2007
| Did you notice the extra corner gussets on the elevators and rudder? I figured i would build mine in instead of adding them later like you had to do. :-) | | -------- | Scott Hi Scott: Glad you picked up on the corner gussets. Don't forget the rudder too. Has Kolb incorporated them into the plans? I think not, but have not seen the new mkIIIx plans. john h mkIII ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Fish Scales....Floor pan first....Then?
From: "olendorf" <olendorf(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jan 14, 2007
"fish scales on floor pan" Boy PlaneCrazzzy has too much time on his hands. Too many Z's in his name too. I'm jealous as hell though. I want that enclosure and the fish scale floor pan, and the checkerboard seat cushions. I better get busy and earn some Z's for my name too. -------- Scott Olendorf Original Firestar, Rotax 447, Powerfin prop Schenectady, NY http://KolbFirestar.googlepages.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=87529#87529 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Sebring FL Sport Expo
From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com>
Date: Jan 14, 2007
Looks like fun, I wanted to go but had to work :( To bad it was so darn windy all weekend, did they get to fly much ? -------- "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=87532#87532 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Aircraft Spruce -I avoid them, their prices are HORRIBY High
From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com>
Date: Jan 14, 2007
I just read the Navman thread from PlaneCrazzzy, and I have had the same experience when buying ( usually not buying ) from Aircraft Spruce. I was looking at an intercom from them, the TL-2424, listed for 430 dollars. They changed the name just enough to make it hard to do a search on, but using just the numbers, I found the SAME intercom under a different name from another avionics shop on the web for 280 dollars. Same deal with a K&N Fuel filter, Aircraft Spruce is selling it under the name Micron 100 fuel filter was selling it for 120 dollars. Lockwood aviation and others sell the same filter under its real name for 49 bucks, less than half of Aircraft Spruce. I may buy some very small stuff from Aircraft Spruce if no one eles has it, but I dont like getting gouged [Evil or Very Mad] I will always research the real name of whatever I am buying and get it elsewhere. Michael A. Bigelow -------- "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=87534#87534 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Sebring FL Sport Expo
From: "George Alexander" <gtalexander(at)att.net>
Date: Jan 14, 2007
JetPilot wrote: > To bad it was so darn windy all weekend, did they get to fly much ? Arrived 1030 and left 1630. Demo rides going all that time. Winds were 10-20 kts, changed at least 180 deg during that period. Most, if not all, exhibitors were showing their stuff. Included a couple of trikes and a gyro or two. Primarily a show case for the aircraft exhibitors. A few traditional vendors.... , but mostly promoting (vs selling) their products/services. (Ins, avionics, power plants, props, chutes, etc..) Several of the attendees who partook of the seminars had good comments. -------- George Alexander http://gtalexander.home.att.net Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=87561#87561 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Firestar construction question - Windscreen
From: "John H Murphy" <jhm9812(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Jan 14, 2007
I notice that my Kolb Firestar has a steel cage with a Lexan windscreen that fastens to each side of the steel enclosure. Each side opens up and out. I have a picture that shows this better than I can explain. This looks different than the other Kolb Firestar's I see on the Web. Was this an option on the part of the builder or a feature that can modified. I'm almost thinking this is an added safety feature but I do not know for sure. I'm inclined to think that the Lexan enclosure sans the metal frame is more appealing because it affords a better "view". Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=87626#87626 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/kolb_setup_160_x_120_194.jpg ________________________________________________________________________________
From: russ kinne <kinnepix(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: q
Date: Jan 14, 2007
Matt Thanx for the CD but I'm on a Mac. Do you want it back? ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Firestar II HKS Conversion
From: "Dave Bigelow" <up_country(at)hotmail.com>
Date: Jan 15, 2007
Here's an update on the Firestar HKS conversion project. I have the engine mounted, the fuel system and throttle hooked up, the oil tank and heat exchanger mounted, the ignition modules and coils mounted, and am working on the wiring and instruments. I'm thinking about three weeks until cranking it up for the first time. Here are a few pictures. -------- Dave Bigelow Kamuela, Hawaii FS2, HKS 700E Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=87711#87711 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/firestar_hks_ignition_modules_954.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/firestar_hks_elec_fuel_pumps_201.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/firestar_hks_oil_tank_cooler_819.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/firestar_hks_engine_front_125.jpg ________________________________________________________________________________
From: APilot(at)webtv.net
Date: Jan 15, 2007
Subject: Re: Firestar II HKS Conversion
Did you have a 503 or a 582 on it before? Vic in Sacramento (Kolb Mark III Classic with the Geo Raven conversion) ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Mark II Xtra update
From: "David Lucas" <d_a_lucas(at)hotmail.com>
Date: Jan 15, 2007
Just curious, Has anyone ever used welded joints instead of riveting in putting a Kolb together ? Considering that, for example, moutain bikes these days are all welded aluminium frame and they take an increadable beating, that method of construction could probably be applied to a Kolb. Less simplicity of construction of course, which is a downside but perhaps a stronger joint and it definately looks better. Like I say, just curious. Anybody care to comment ? David. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=87719#87719 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Mark II Xtra update
Date: Jan 15, 2007
| We put gussets on the rudder as well. | -------- | Scott Morning Scott: Rudder looks good, clean and strong. john h mkIII ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 15, 2007
From: "Vic Peters" <vicsvinyl(at)verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Fish Scales....Floor pan first....Then?
Bill V. asked Hi Mike I am curious to what type of tool you used to do the fish scales ,it looks like a sanding disk, would you please elaborate? Thank you in advance Hey Bill I cheat, I buy it in rolls of vinyl and cut it to fit. Comes in large or small engine turn, gold, silver,even diamond plate. Wouldn't want to use it on a floor though. I also cut letters from 1/4" to 23" in height. Doesen't hurt to have a vinyl cutter. Vic 912 Extra Maine ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org>
Subject: Oil pump
Date: Jan 15, 2007
Got an interesting situation with the oil pump on the Firestar II's 582. Apparently when sitting for a day or so, oil appears to be slowly forcing it's way through the oil injection pump and into the intake manifold of the carb closest to the PTO end. For a while, this engine has tended to have a lot of oil accumulate in the aft end of the intake silencer and sometimes drool out, making a mess. Lately it has sometimes exhibited a tendency to run rough at startup, blowing a lot of oil smoke for about five minutes and then clearing up and being normal. Today I found out why, went out and pulled the float bowls off, and the rear one was purple from the oil that had found it's way into the float bowl and created about a 20:1 gas/oil mix. The pump works normally in flight, it just allows oil to seep through while sitting in the hangar. Has anybody else ever had a situation like this, and if so, what did you do to fix it? I do have a spare oil pump, graciously given to me by one of our listers, and will probably go ahead and install it, but am I overlooking something??? (Always a good possibility...) Thanks, Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Firestar construction question - Windscreen
From: "John H Murphy" <jhm9812(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Jan 15, 2007
I called Kolb today. Donnie answered the phone and said they sell a "winter" windscreen/enclosure kit for the Firestar that opens to the left and costs $495. plus shipping. I'm assuming they are referring to the one pictured on their Web site. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=87859#87859 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Steven Green" <Kolbdriver(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Mark II Xtra update
Date: Jan 15, 2007
David, Most of the aluminum tubing used in the Kolbs is 6061-T6. The T6 means it is heat treated which would be compromised by welding. It would also take a heck of a jig to weld it up in to prevent warping. As you stated welding would really add a lot of time to the project. The strength of the Kolb structure is very adequate. Steven Hope my spelling is ok I don't have a spell checker. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lucas" <d_a_lucas(at)hotmail.com> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 7:18 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Mark II Xtra update > > Just curious, Has anyone ever used welded joints instead of riveting in putting a Kolb together ? Considering that, for example, moutain bikes these days are all welded aluminium frame and they take an increadable beating, that method of construction could probably be applied to a Kolb. Less simplicity of construction of course, which is a downside but perhaps a stronger joint and it definately looks better. Like I say, just curious. Anybody care to comment ? > David. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=87719#87719 > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 15, 2007
From: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart(at)onlyinternet.net>
Subject: Re: Oil pump
................. The pump works normally in flight, it just allows oil to seep through while sitting in the hangar. Has anybody else ever had a situation like this, and if so, what did you do to fix it? .................. Richard, A low cost solution would be to place a shut off valve ahead of the pump, and add a preflight check flag. Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 15, 2007
From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net>
Subject: gascolator
I know this has been discussed before, but... My Ultrastar has an inline fuel filter but no gascolator. This makes me uncomfortable; I want a gascolator to trap water. However, I don't like the modern all metal aircraft gascolators as I can't see what's inside (nor do I like the price!), and the ones at the local tractor supply don't have any way to drain the bowl. My old T-Craft had just what I want: the glass "bowl" was actually a glass tube, clamped between the metal top and bottom... with a quick drain at the bottom... that's the kind I want, but can't find. Any suggestions? I've seen the homemade one, but I don't like the fact that it can't be drained completely (and the translucent plastic isn't as nice as clear glass). -Dana -- -- New safety announcement from the Department of Homeland Security: Securely duct tape shut any books you may own about civil liberties or the U.S. Constitution. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: tnt1(at)rangebroadband.com
Subject: Cage 3/4 " tube. Wing attach point.
Date: Jan 15, 2007
The clearance for the edge of the tab to the edge of the hole is less that 3/16th inch. Is this attach point critical for wing strength? ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org>
Subject: Re: gascolator
Date: Jan 15, 2007
I have a gascolator that has a port on the bottom for attaching a drain valve. It's all metal, but the price might be good - make me an offer.... Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dana Hague" <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 10:50 PM Subject: Kolb-List: gascolator > > I know this has been discussed before, but... > > My Ultrastar has an inline fuel filter but no gascolator. This makes me > uncomfortable; I want a gascolator to trap water. However, I don't like > the modern all metal aircraft gascolators as I can't see what's inside > (nor do I like the price!), and the ones at the local tractor supply don't > have any way to drain the bowl. My old T-Craft had just what I want: the > glass "bowl" was actually a glass tube, clamped between the metal top and > bottom... with a quick drain at the bottom... that's the kind I want, but > can't find. Any suggestions? > > I've seen the homemade one, but I don't like the fact that it can't be > drained completely (and the translucent plastic isn't as nice as clear > glass). > > -Dana > -- > -- > New safety announcement from the Department of Homeland Security: > Securely duct tape shut any books you may own about civil liberties or the > U.S. Constitution. > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Firestar II HKS Conversion
From: "Dave Bigelow" <up_country(at)hotmail.com>
Date: Jan 16, 2007
Vic wrote: > Did you have a 503 or a 582 on it before? I had a DCDI 503 with high altitude compensating carbs on it previously. -------- Dave Bigelow Kamuela, Hawaii FS2, HKS 700E Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=87966#87966 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: APilot(at)webtv.net
Date: Jan 16, 2007
Subject: Re: Firestar construction question - Windscreen
I have a full enclosure for a Mark III Classic that I will never use. It is a combination of vinyl and velcro. I would guess that it will cost less than $10 to mail it. If anyone wants it, let me know. Vic in Sacramento a/c 916, 722-9692 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar(at)gogittum.com>
Subject: Re: gascolator
Date: Jan 16, 2007
West Marine sells gascolators with a clear blue bowl, replaceable element and a drain at the bottom. I bought one for my boat when I started making fishing trips into Mexico. They work great, but may be a little clunky for a small plane. Seems like it was around $50 or $60. Lar. Larry Bourne Santa Fe, NM www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dana Hague" <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 7:50 PM Subject: Kolb-List: gascolator > > I know this has been discussed before, but... > > My Ultrastar has an inline fuel filter but no gascolator. This makes me > uncomfortable; I want a gascolator to trap water. However, I don't like > the modern all metal aircraft gascolators as I can't see what's inside > (nor do I like the price!), and the ones at the local tractor supply don't > have any way to drain the bowl. My old T-Craft had just what I want: the > glass "bowl" was actually a glass tube, clamped between the metal top and > bottom... with a quick drain at the bottom... that's the kind I want, but > can't find. Any suggestions? > > I've seen the homemade one, but I don't like the fact that it can't be > drained completely (and the translucent plastic isn't as nice as clear > glass). > > -Dana > -- > -- > New safety announcement from the Department of Homeland Security: > Securely duct tape shut any books you may own about civil liberties or the > U.S. Constitution. > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 16, 2007
From: "Vic Peters" <vicsvinyl(at)verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Cage 3/4 " tube. Wing attach point.
"The clearance for the edge of the tab to the edge of the hole is less that 3/16th inch. Is this attach point critical for wing strength? " I can only tell you what my Extra plans say. One page says 5/16" from the Center-- The next page says 5/16" from the edge. Call Kolb! Vic 912 Extra Maine ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Mark II Xtra update
From: "Paul Petty" <paulpetty(at)myway.com>
Date: Jan 16, 2007
Scott, When did you buy kit 1? Your project and workman ship looks great! I also added the gussets to the rudder and elevator like johns plane. There are some real good mods for the wings as well. -------- Paul Petty Kolbra #12 Ms Dixie covering and painting Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=88024#88024 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Mark II Xtra update
From: "Paul Petty" <paulpetty(at)myway.com>
Date: Jan 16, 2007
Scott, One other thing i noticed. Flaps. Does the Mark 3 X come with flaps now or did you add them. If added what are your plans for deploying them i.e. mech or eletric. -------- Paul Petty Kolbra #12 Ms Dixie covering and painting Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=88028#88028 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: APilot(at)webtv.net
Date: Jan 17, 2007
Subject: Re: Mark II Xtra update
What is the difference between the Mark III Extra wing and the Classic wing? ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 17, 2007
From: Terry <tkrolfe(at)usadatanet.net>
Subject: FireFly for sale
Gentlemen, It is my unhappy task of helping my friend's son sell his fathers Firefly. Dick Bezzard has left us before Christmas after a poor year of health. It is a 1996 model and was damaged on a rude landing at my place. I helped him rebuild the fuselage and he had to replace one rib on a wing. While he was at it, he cut the ailerons down from the barn door size to the size now used. It would have been completed by now if not for his health. The fuselage is powdered coated as is the rest of the hardware and boom. The covering is done on the wings, fuselage and ailerons with the tapeing done on the fuselage. Tapeing still needs to be completed on the wings and ailerons. The tail section was not damaged at all and is still attached to the boom. All of the dope and paint for it has been purchased including Polyspray UV protection. Actually more than needed. The 447 has 41.3 hr.'s on it and is included with a three blade IVO prop. Instruments include: Air speed, Altimeter, VSI, Card compass, dual CHT, combined rpm/egt, bank indicator and Hobb's meter. It has heel brakes on Azusa 6" wheels. Spare 6" steel rims with balloon tires on them. An upholstered seat cushion. Dual wing tip Kuntzleman strobes. 4 gal. of AV-2 mixing oil. New nose fairing and sheet metal for the floor pan. Antenna mounted on left wing strut attachment with groundplane built into wing above. Complete set of plans with building manual and Rotax manuals. Only thing missing that I can determine is the Lexan for the wind screen. Also, the gear legs are bent and need to be straighten or new ones purchased. Dick was a machinist by trade and very particular with his possession's. I have advised his son to place a price tag on the whole thing at $6,000. A real bargain for someone. It is hangered at Smoketown airport east of Lancaster, PA. where it has been since it's inception. If interested, I can show it to you and then provide you a contact number for his son. You might wonder why I'm not interested in finishing it myself. It's because I already have a FireFly that I built after seeing Dick's back in 98. Can't house or fly two!!! Terry - FireFly #95 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "boyd" <by0ung(at)brigham.net>
Subject: gascolator
Date: Jan 17, 2007
Years ago I saw a gas filter in autozone that had 2 inlets and 1 outlet..... because gas is lighter than water,,, if it was positioned so the active inlet was above the inactive inlet, ( plumbed into a drain valve) and the outlet above them all,,, the gas/water mix would enter in the upper inlet, the gas would go to the outlet on top and the water would go to the bottom inlet/outlet/drain... you could have a gas collator filter all in 1. if it were installed say 15 to 20 deg from vertical I think the installation would be good. The filter as I remember was semi transparent to fully transparent. Installed in this manner I think the filter would have to be completely full of water for water to enter the outlet. Boyd At 11:28 PM 1/15/2007, Richard Pike wrote: > >I have a gascolator that has a port on the bottom for attaching a drain >valve. It's all metal, but the price might be good - make me an offer.... Thanks, but I do want one I can see through... -Dana ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Bummer
From: "Paul Petty" <paulpetty(at)myway.com>
Date: Jan 17, 2007
I was told the FAA no longer does free inspections. Is this BS? -------- Paul Petty Kolbra #12 Ms Dixie painting and reassembly Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=88303#88303 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Bummer
Date: Jan 17, 2007
| I was told the FAA no longer does free inspections. Is this BS? | | -------- | Paul Petty Paul: If you have not done so already, contact the nearest FSDO and ask them. For your location the nearest would be Jackson, MS: http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/field_offices/fsdo/mis/ Hope this helps clarify your question. john h mkIII ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Ralph" <ul15rhb(at)juno.com>
Date: Jan 17, 2007
Subject: Re: Bummer
Paul they do free ones, but it may take forever before they come out to inspect it. A DAR will do it in a reasonable amount of time, but then you pay for it. Ralph -- "Paul Petty" wrote: I was told the FAA no longer does free inspections. Is this BS? -------- Paul Petty Kolbra #12 Ms Dixie painting and reassembly Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=88303#88303 ________________________________________________________________________ FREE Reminder Service - NEW from AmericanGreetings.com Click HERE and never forget a Birthday or Anniversary again! http://track.juno.com/s/lc?s=197335&u=http://www.americangreetings.com/products/online_calendar.pd?c=uol5752 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Cool Video
From: "Rex Rodebush" <rrodebush(at)tema.net>
Date: Jan 17, 2007
Check out The New Kolb website for a neat video. It gives a good pilot's view of take off and landing a Mark III. Seems to me to be very similar to a J-3 cub. Rex Rodebush Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=88388#88388 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 17, 2007
From: jerb <ulflyer(at)verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Bummer
I have to agree with John H, give them a call, no harm done in asking. What category do you intend to license it, Experimental or Light Sport. Seems like I recall reading that the FAA would not do light sport inspection that you had to use the service of a DAR, but the FAA inspections would still be available for experimental. jerb At 10:40 AM 1/17/2007, you wrote: > > > | I was told the FAA no longer does free inspections. Is this BS? >| >| -------- >| Paul Petty > > >Paul: > >If you have not done so already, contact the nearest FSDO and ask >them. > >For your location the nearest would be Jackson, MS: > >http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/field_offices/fsdo/mis/ > >Hope this helps clarify your question. > >john h >mkIII > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Bummer
From: "Paul Petty" <paulpetty(at)myway.com>
Date: Jan 17, 2007
Thanks jerb John all shew! another 500 might bring about AIDS! -------- Paul Petty Kolbra #12 Ms Dixie painting and reassembly Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=88425#88425 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 17, 2007
From: "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Set the timers, here we go
I finally got the paperwork for all five aircraft together and mailed to the FAA today. I have reserved N numbers for each and a copy of the reservation letter is enclosed, the 8050-88A forms were all properly notarized and checked to reflect that any ownership paperwork is lost and cannot be replaced, and the 8050-1 was filled out to show that I am the builder and the make is a Kolb, not vice versa. I even used postal money orders for the $5 fee so there would be no waiting on checks to clear or other impediments to getting them all registered. Here's hoping it all goes quickly, I really want to get them all back in the air. Rick -- Rick Girard "Ya'll drop on in" takes on a whole new meaning when you live at the airport. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 17, 2007
From: "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Second thoughts on welding Kolb structure
Like several of you, I rejected the idea of welding some of the structure of the Kolb. I thought about the heat treat and deformation issues and kicked my brain into cruise control on reflex. Somewhat later, after banging my head, again, on the fuselage weldment of the Cumulus that hangs from the ceiling of the garage, it occured to me that the empennage components could be welded 4130 just as well as riveted aluminum. The cumulus tail feathers are welded, not a pop rivet in sight. Even the hinges are welded to the structures. Of course there's the issue of weight. On reflex, again, it seems like the steel structure might be a close second, but surely could not be as light as aluminum. But, I've been wrong before. So, in the spirit of "one good test beats a thousand well reasoned opinions", is there anyone out there who has the tailfeathers for his Kolb done, but not covered? I'm not sure model would make that much difference, but to be as close as possible, a Fire Star or a FS 2 are very similar in area of the tail feathers of the Cumulus. If you're near central Kansas, I can bring scales to do the weighing. Rick -- Rick Girard "Ya'll drop on in" takes on a whole new meaning when you live at the airport. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: DAquaNut(at)aol.com
Date: Jan 17, 2007
Subject: Re: Idle jet size on the 447
List, I am having trouble with my firefly loading up at idle for more than about 10 seconds. Just wondering if going down on the idle jet size would cure the problem. I think this is a common problem on the 447 , and wondered if any one has cured it. There have been a few times I would go to " clear" it and it would bog to the point of dying almost! Anyone had this problem and cured it? Not much in the archieves. Ed Diebel Firefly 062 ( In Houston) (Where it has been colder than normal) ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 17, 2007
From: possums <possums(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Second thoughts on welding Kolb structure
> >So, in the spirit of "one good test beats a thousand well reasoned >opinions", is there anyone out there who has the tailfeathers for >his Kolb done, but not covered? I'm not sure model would make that >much difference, but to be as close as possible, a Fire Star or a FS >2 are very similar in area of the tail feathers of the Cumulus. If >you're near central Kansas, I can bring scales to do the weighing. > >Rick Just some different "mods" we've done on the tail - down south in Possum country. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Malcolmbru(at)AOL.com
Date: Jan 17, 2007
Subject: Re: Idle jet size on the 447
carb icing is a possibility read the eht and cht if they seam low for the condition you may have carb ice. this would give you a rich condition and bog easily IT isn't the 447 but the one card supplying so much fuel and air that makes it easier to ice up then the 503 with two carbes I flew in ice conditions in my firestar several times even formed ice on the wings and tail bogged the motor down so lo I landed with throttle full forward and stalled when I let off the gas I weighed the plane back at the hanger it was 592 LB Malcolm Michigan ________________________________________________________________________________
From: APilot(at)webtv.net
Date: Jan 18, 2007
Subject: Re: Mark II Xtra update
Thanks for the info. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "tc1917" <tc1917(at)hughes.net>
Subject: slingshot
Date: Jan 18, 2007
Has anyone ever put droop tips on a kolb? How about on a short wing as a firefly or slingshot? seems it would really help the landing. would it interfer with the faster flying of a slingshot or would it help the landing more? would it twist the wing under pressure? Come on, someone has HAD to thought about it, right? Ted Cowan, Alabama. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar(at)gogittum.com>
Subject: Re: slingshot
Date: Jan 18, 2007
Years ago, Ron Christensen built shortened droop tips for his Mk III Classic (he called it the Mk III 1/2) and they didn't work out too well. I forget the details now, but he experimented with several different tips, and finally wound up back with the factory plans wingtips. Maybe an archive search would work, or maybe someone on the List has a better memory for 8 or 9 years ago. Lar. Larry Bourne Santa Fe, NM www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "tc1917" <tc1917(at)hughes.net> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 3:07 AM Subject: Kolb-List: slingshot > > Has anyone ever put droop tips on a kolb? How about on a short wing as a > firefly or slingshot? seems it would really help the landing. would it > interfer with the faster flying of a slingshot or would it help the > landing more? would it twist the wing under pressure? Come on, someone > has HAD to thought about it, right? Ted Cowan, Alabama. > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 18, 2007
From: "Vic Peters" <vicsvinyl(at)verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Second thoughts on welding Kolb structure
I like the toe in you've added to the rudder. Vic ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Beauford T" <beauford(at)tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Idle jet size on the 447
Date: Jan 18, 2007
Ed... I doubt you would have to change the idle jet size from the original... The symptom you describe sounds like the way mine behaves when it has crud in the idle jet... Have you checked to see if it is clean...? It only takes a tiny amount of fuzz in that jet to make it do exactly what you are describing... Mine is stable at idle as long as the idle jet is clean. Worth what ye paid fer it... Beauford FF# 076 Grounded... BRS shipped off for repacking ----- Original Message ----- From: DAquaNut(at)aol.com To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 9:11 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Idle jet size on the 447 List, I am having trouble with my firefly loading up at idle for more than about 10 seconds. Just wondering if going down on the idle jet size would cure the problem. I think this is a common problem on the 447 , and wondered if any one has cured it. There have been a few times I would go to " clear" it and it would bog to the point of dying almost! Anyone had this problem and cured it? Not much in the archieves. Ed Diebel Firefly 062 ( In Houston) (Where it has been colder than normal) ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: BRS Repack
Date: Jan 18, 2007
Beauford FF# 076 Grounded... BRS shipped off for repacking Beauford: If you have time, give us a run down on what was required to prepare and ship your parachute back to BRS for repack, please. I spent a couple telephone calls to them yesterday and still have no answers. Will try again today to get set up to get mine returned and updated. I think I understand the rocket is good for 12 years and does not need to be returned for inspection. My parachute is a 1050 soft pack. Repack requirement every six years if parachute is installed inside the aircraft out of the weather. I have 7 years on the initial pack. BRS told me to go ahead and fly it until last fall, then send it in. Cold and wet at hauck's holler, alabama. john h mkIII ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: slingshot
Date: Jan 18, 2007
From: n27sb(at)aol.com
Tnk is currently working on some tips for the MKIIIX. It should not be a secret because they had them on display at the Homecoming. steve B Firefly on Floats -----Original Message----- From: tc1917(at)hughes.net Sent: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 6:07 AM Subject: Kolb-List: slingshot Has anyone ever put droop tips on a kolb? How about on a short wing as a firefly or slingshot? seems it would really help the landing. would it interfer with the faster flying of a slingshot or would it help the landing more? would it twist the wing under pressure? Come on, someone has HAD to thought about it, right? Ted Cowan, Alabama. ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: BRS Repack
Date: Jan 18, 2007
From: n27sb(at)aol.com
John, I did one last year. You can send your pack as is or you can open it to take a look, be carefull not to let it inflate out in the open, it takes very little breeze to yank a Hauck off the ground. DO NOT SEND THE ROCKET. It requires a special training class and liscense to ship one. If yours is out of date buy a new one. Bring your old one to TNK this year and we will test it. steve -----Original Message----- From: jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com Sent: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 9:49 AM Subject: Kolb-List: BRS Repack Beauford FF# 076 Grounded... BRS shipped off for repacking Beauford: If you have time, give us a run down on what was required to prepare and ship your parachute back to BRS for repack, please. I spent a couple telephone calls to them yesterday and still have no answers. Will try again today to get set up to get mine returned and updated. I think I understand the rocket is good for 12 years and does not need to be returned for inspection. My parachute is a 1050 soft pack. Repack requirement every six years if parachute is installed inside the aircraft out of the weather. I have 7 years on the initial pack. BRS told me to go ahead and fly it until last fall, then send it in. Cold and wet at hauck's holler, alabama. john h mkIII ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 18, 2007
From: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart(at)onlyinternet.net>
Subject: Re: slingshot
> >Has anyone ever put droop tips on a kolb? How about on a short wing as a >firefly or slingshot? seems it would really help the landing. would it >interfer with the faster flying of a slingshot or would it help the landing >more? would it twist the wing under pressure? Come on, someone has HAD to >thought about it, right? Ted Cowan, Alabama. > Ted, For a Firefly, I believe if you add VG's, go to smaller chord ailerons, shorten the T bar moment arm, there is no reason to change the tips for improved landing characteristics. With the changes I have listed, the FireFly is very light and positive on the controls. If I was going to rebuild the wings, I would flare out the wing tip at a 45 degree angle from the leading edge to the rear and keep the bottom flat. Shorten the leading edge and extend the trailing edge to keep the wing area the same as before. This would help reduce wing tip vortices and provide a little better cruise with out additional weight. Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Beauford T" <beauford(at)tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: Re: BRS Repack
Date: Jan 18, 2007
John: First of all, this is a good time to do it, since they are offering a 15% winter discount until 01 March. Here is about all I know about it based on dealing with them this past week: -- BRS requires you to obtain a Return Materials Authorization (RMA) number from them prior to shipping anything back to them. If you don't have a number, they won't accept it. -- They require payment in full before they will work on your chute. -- My chute is a BRS-5 cannister - I called and asked whether they wanted just the bare cannister, or whether they preferred getting it with the two mounting bands and the sub-mounting base on it... They said it did not matter, either way was OK. I shipped mine "clean." FED-EX from Florida was under $20, including a fee for $1K insurance. -- Rocket is 12 year replacement item but the BRS-5 cannister model chute, itself, is rated by BRS at a 25 year service life, with 6 year repack cycle. -- The current turnaround time they quote is "a couple of weeks." We shall see. -- With the discount, my bill was $658... prices vary for other models and I do not have that data, although George Alexander mentioned to me that if one needed a new rocket for the BRS-5 it would be approximately $400 more. (George can likely provide some precise info on the rocket price, since he discussed it with BRS this week). -- I found that coaxing a live BRS human to answer the service desk telephone number listed on their website for RMA numbers is a challenging undertaking... Evidently the gents who man that desk are also doing the repacking work and they stay rather busy at that task most of the time. I surrendered after half a dozen attempts at various times of day and finally just called their front office admin number, which is also listed on the website. A very professional and pleasant young lady named Brenda got me the pricing info, answers to my shipping questions and the RMA number. Hope this helps... Beauford, FF#076 Brandon, FL > > > Beauford: > > If you have time, give us a run down on what was required to prepare > and ship your parachute back to BRS for repack, please. > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Bummer
From: "Paul Petty" <paulpetty(at)myway.com>
Date: Jan 18, 2007
Gang, Just got off the phone with the FSDO in Jackson. Guy named Ed Adcock told me the FAA no longer does AW inspections that now is done by DAR's. So it wasnt BS looks like. He also said this was nation wide and due to money crunches his division of the FAA handeled surveillance only what ever that means. [Crying or Very sad] Oh well thank goodness for credit! -------- Paul Petty Kolbra #12 Ms Dixie painting and reassembly Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=88651#88651 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Wayne T. McCullough" <blackbird754(at)alltel.net>
Subject: Re: Bummer
Date: Jan 18, 2007
Went and talked with my local FAA representative who is out of the Atlanta area.......... Here in Savannah Georgia...... That is the same information that I am getting............... Wayne McCullough ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Bummer
Date: Jan 18, 2007
FAA no longer does AW inspections that now is done by DAR's. | -------- | Paul Petty Hi Paul: Was not the answer you were looking for, but at least you have a valid answer and don't have to worry about hearsay. 15 years ago I paid a gentleman out of Birmingham, Alabama, to do my airworthiness inspection. He did a good job, asked for a fair price. I have no idea what he charges now, but he may be agreeable to swing by your place, when the time comes, and do your inspection. His name is John Burgin. Someone on the Kolb List may have his number handy. If not, we can find it shortly. john h mkIII ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Bummer
Date: Jan 18, 2007
| Just got off the phone with the FSDO in Jackson. | -------- | Paul Petty Paul: Gents name is John E. Burgin, Birmingham, Alabama, telephone: 205-836-8390. john h mkIII ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Mike Welch" <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: Mk III to Xtra Conversion
Date: Jan 18, 2007
Hi Everyone, I'm new to the list, just signed up yesterday. Not new to Kolb, tho. I bought a Mk III back in 1999, and I recognize a few familiar names. I have not finished building my Mk III Classic, yet I am very close. I got held up from finishing the Mk III and I did not want to cover it until I could store it inside a hanger. Essentially, about all that's left is the fabric and paint. But!! I really, really think I want to back the process up a little, and make a few aerodynamic changes...(like Barnaby Wainfan suggested) to create what should have been all along...a Mk III Xtra. That sucker looks like it's going fast, sitting still. While I have absolutely no doubt whatsoever about my own talents to making a worthwhile conversion, I am curious if there are those among you who have considered or even done this very thing. I can do the fuselage modifications (mostly just widening the front and a newer better windshield design). Of course, I'll have to make a new fiberglass nose, etc. Any thoughts on the matter?? Thanks, Mike Welch in Utah (southwest corner...two hour drive from Las Vegas) _________________________________________________________________ Invite your Hotmail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Mk III to Xtra Conversion
Date: Jan 18, 2007
| I'm new to the list, Mike Welch Hi Mike: Welcome to the Kolb List. While I am a happy camper with my old mkIII, there are those on the List that will welcome discussions on how to make it look faster, etc. Have never had a chance to fly with a mkIIIx long enough to do any comparisons between my mkIIIc and the xtra. Looking forward to doing that comparison, one of these days. john h mkIII hauck's holler, alabama ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Malcolmbru(at)aol.com
Date: Jan 18, 2007
Subject: Re: slingshot vs cobra
what is the difference between the slongshot and the cobra? mal ________________________________________________________________________________
From: JRatcli256(at)aol.com
Date: Jan 18, 2007
Subject: Airspeed Indicator
Its about time to purchase an airspeed indicator for my mark3x. There seems to be numerous brands on the market, from inexpensive on up. Would like to get input on reliability of the various units being used. Think how they stand up under vibration, would be a reasonable concern. Would like to get some list recomendations. Also was wondering about connecting the Navman fuel flow transducer to the Grand Rapids EIS rather then using the gage unit supplied for the Navman. Can it be done? Many Thanks John Ratcliffe ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Airspeed Indicator
Date: Jan 18, 2007
| Its about time to purchase an airspeed indicator for my mark3x. | John Ratcliffe | John R: I have used Winter ASI's for years. In 2600 hours I have replaced mine once in my mkIII. They were designed for soaring, are very accurate and reliable. john h mkIII ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl(at)highstream.net>
Subject: Re: slingshot vs cobra
Date: Jan 18, 2007
Kolbra is stretched out and has a lot more room in the back seat, also the Kolbra has a about six more feet of wing. Denny Rowe ----- Original Message ----- From: Malcolmbru(at)aol.com To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 6:00 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: slingshot vs cobra what is the difference between the slongshot and the cobra? mal ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- 12/27/2006 12:21 PM ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl(at)highstream.net>
Subject: Re: slingshot vs cobra
Date: Jan 18, 2007
I forgot to mention that the Kolbra has dual controls and the Slingshot does not. The Slingshot is the Corvette of the Kolb designs and the Kolbra is the SuperCub. Denny Rowe ----- Original Message ----- From: Malcolmbru(at)aol.com To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 6:00 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: slingshot vs cobra what is the difference between the slongshot and the cobra? mal ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- 12/27/2006 12:21 PM ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Mike Welch" <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: buying the parts
Date: Jan 18, 2007
Hi Richard, I already called and talked to TNK about this idea and the front nose cone is about $350. The problem is there is a lot more to it than just the fiberglass. If I were able to build an EXACT match to an Xtra, then buying a nose piece might save a little time, but since I will have to do my own widening on a MkIII fuselage, their genuine nosecone won't really fit what I come up with. I believe I can best build my own version of an Xtra nosecone, after I've finished the frame mods, and it will be "made to fit". Akso, TNK guy said that to actually change a MkIII into a real Xtra would mean 1) the fuselage 2) the nosecone, and some misc. other things. All told...maybe $3500 to $4000, to make a true Xtra. Not worth it to me to spend that kind of bucks. I still feel I can modify my MkIII for just the cost of some parts, namely chrome-moly tubing ($300), fiberglass and resin ($150) and some new lexan. I need new lexan anyway, since my old windshield cracked up being in the sun too much. Referring to the side/back of the fuselage, I am not familiar with any noticible changes (yet). I do know that small flat area right in front of the prop is a source of "poor airflow" and it is imperitive to build a aluminum "v" to fare that area to improve airflow to the prop. In the final outcome I am not really trying to create a 100+ mph rocket. I know a MkIII has its limitations, but I just want to "improve" it a little, and make it cruise a couple of mph's quicker. Besides....all my BIG bucks are being poured into my GlaStar I am also building (about $30k+ in just the panel. Mostly color glass displays. Have to butcher their molded instument panel to get it to all fit.) Thank God for airplanes, or I'd have plenty of money to blow on hobbies!!! LOL Mike in Utah _________________________________________________________________ Turn searches into helpful donations. Make your search count. http://click4thecause.live.com/search/charity/default.aspx?source=hmemtagline_donation&FORM=WLMTAG ________________________________________________________________________________
From: DAquaNut(at)aol.com
Date: Jan 18, 2007
Subject: Re: Idle jet size on the 447
In a message dated 1/18/2007 8:31:41 A.M. Central Standard Time, beauford(at)tampabay.rr.com writes: Have you checked to see if it is clean...? It only takes a tiny amount of fuzz in that jet to make it do exactly what you are describing... Mine is stable at idle as long as the idle jet is clean. Beauford, I have had the problem since new. If I let it idle for more than about 5 seconds it seems to load up. I thought it was getting too much gas, but if I knew for certain,I would not be needing help. I will check to make sure everything is clean. I need to replace all my fuel lines anyway! If the weather ever warms back up!! Ed ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Naveman fuel gauge
Date: Jan 18, 2007
I'd like to know that also. the Navman fuel gauge is no longer available except in the more expensive models. I suppose the best answer will need to come from Grand Rapids EIS . On Jan 18, 2007, at 6:04 PM, JRatcli256(at)aol.com wrote: > Also was wondering about connecting the Navman fuel flow transducer > to the Grand Rapids EIS rather then using the gage unit supplied > for the Navman. Can it be done? ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Steven Green" <Kolbdriver(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Idle jet size on the 447
Date: Jan 18, 2007
Ed, I changed the idle jets from winter to summer. In the summer the OEM supplied jets caused a rough idle (too rich). I installed the next size smaller idle jets during the summer and it made a nice difference. BTW my engine was a 582. Steven Green I have had the problem since new. If I let it idle for more than about 5 seconds it seems to load up. I thought it was getting too much gas, but if I knew for certain,I would not be needing help. I will check to make sure everything is clean. I need to replace all my fuel lines anyway! If the weather ever warms back up!! Ed ________________________________________________________________________________
From: DAquaNut(at)aol.com
Date: Jan 18, 2007
Subject: Re: Airspeed Indicator
In a message dated 1/18/2007 5:27:51 P.M. Central Standard Time, jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com writes: I have used Winter ASI's for years. In 2600 hours I have replaced mine once in my mkIII. They were designed for soaring, are very accurate and reliable. john h mkIII John R, I have to agree with John H. . I had a UMA ASI. It read about 20 mph off. After hearing my post about having trouble with my UMA he suggested I get a Winter ASI . I got one and it seems very accurate. They aren't cheap , but it would have been cheaper to get a Winter to start with. Hope this helps. Ed Diebel (firefly # 062) ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "David Kulp" <undoctor(at)rcn.com>
Subject: My path to buying a Kolb
Date: Jan 18, 2007
Hello Kolbers, Back in the beginning of the year there was a thread about off-field landings. I had an experience I believe would be qualified as a contribution to that thread. While flying an under-constructed Chicken Hawk ultralight, the wings folded at 1200' AGL and I survived a fall to earth with no parachute. I tried to post some pictures and a narrative on the photo share, but apparently there's some kind of disconnect between me and the photo share because I was unable to get it done. I'm sure many of you would be fascinated to read about it so I'm setting up a personal website and posting the pictures and narrative there. If you'd like to check it out click on the link below. http://journal.rcn.net/DaveKulp/gallery/64/?fwdUrl=/DaveKulp/ I'd like to wish you all a great 2007. To those in the midwest who are struggling with the ice and snow, my thoughts are with you. Maybe you're getting your licks early in the year and will coast for the remainder. Regards, Dave Kulp Bethlehem, PA ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar(at)gogittum.com>
Subject: Re: My path to buying a Kolb
Date: Jan 18, 2007
I'd like to see that article, Dave. Thanks. Larry Bourne Santa Fe, NM www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: David Kulp To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 6:34 PM Subject: Kolb-List: My path to buying a Kolb Hello Kolbers, Back in the beginning of the year there was a thread about off-field landings. I had an experience I believe would be qualified as a contribution to that thread. While flying an under-constructed Chicken Hawk ultralight, the wings folded at 1200' AGL and I survived a fall to earth with no parachute. I tried to post some pictures and a narrative on the photo share, but apparently there's some kind of disconnect between me and the photo share because I was unable to get it done. I'm sure many of you would be fascinated to read about it so I'm setting up a personal website and posting the pictures and narrative there. If you'd like to check it out click on the link below. http://journal.rcn.net/DaveKulp/gallery/64/?fwdUrl=/DaveKulp/ I'd like to wish you all a great 2007. To those in the midwest who are struggling with the ice and snow, my thoughts are with you. Maybe you're getting your licks early in the year and will coast for the remainder. Regards, Dave Kulp Bethlehem, PA ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org>
Subject: Re: My path to buying a Kolb
Date: Jan 18, 2007
Wow. Glad to still have you around. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) dp not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: David Kulp To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 9:34 PM Subject: Kolb-List: My path to buying a Kolb Hello Kolbers, Back in the beginning of the year there was a thread about off-field landings. I had an experience I believe would be qualified as a contribution to that thread. While flying an under-constructed Chicken Hawk ultralight, the wings folded at 1200' AGL and I survived a fall to earth with no parachute. I tried to post some pictures and a narrative on the photo share, but apparently there's some kind of disconnect between me and the photo share because I was unable to get it done. I'm sure many of you would be fascinated to read about it so I'm setting up a personal website and posting the pictures and narrative there. If you'd like to check it out click on the link below. http://journal.rcn.net/DaveKulp/gallery/64/?fwdUrl=/DaveKulp/ I'd like to wish you all a great 2007. To those in the midwest who are struggling with the ice and snow, my thoughts are with you. Maybe you're getting your licks early in the year and will coast for the remainder. Regards, Dave Kulp Bethlehem, PA ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl(at)highstream.net>
Subject: Re: buying the parts
Date: Jan 18, 2007
Mike, I know you have your heart set on wringing that last three miles per hour out of your Mk-3, but let me give you my thoughts. You have a well proven airframe kit that will have plenty of value if you ever decide to sell. You are very close to completion if you do not get side tracked into major mods that may upset weight and balance as well as directional stability, remember that the extra needs larger tail surfaces to offset the longer forward fuselage. You are also building a Glastar which has much greater range and speed than any Kolb so the need for a faster Mk-3 seems almost silly. My advise is to finish both planes per plans and enjoy the wonderful world of slow flight the Mk-3 gives, as well as the capabilities of the Glasstar. Worth what you paid for it. Denny Rowe, Mk-3, PA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Welch" <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 7:47 PM Subject: Kolb-List: buying the parts > > Hi Richard, > I already called and talked to TNK about this idea and the front nose > cone is about $350. The problem is there is a lot more to it than just > the fiberglass. If I were able to build an EXACT match to an Xtra, then > buying a nose piece might save a little time, but since I will have to do > my own widening on a MkIII fuselage, their genuine nosecone won't really > fit what I come up with. I believe I can best build my own version of an > Xtra nosecone, after I've finished the frame mods, and it will be "made to > fit". > > Akso, TNK guy said that to actually change a MkIII into a real Xtra > would mean 1) the fuselage 2) the nosecone, and some misc. other things. > All told...maybe $3500 to $4000, to make a true Xtra. > Not worth it to me to spend that kind of bucks. I still feel I can modify > my MkIII for just the cost of some parts, namely chrome-moly tubing > ($300), fiberglass and resin ($150) and some new lexan. I need new lexan > anyway, since my old windshield cracked up being in the sun too much. > > Referring to the side/back of the fuselage, I am not familiar with any > noticible changes (yet). I do know that small flat area right in front > of the prop is a source of "poor airflow" and it is imperitive to build a > aluminum "v" to fare that area to improve airflow to the prop. > > In the final outcome I am not really trying to create a 100+ mph rocket. > I know a MkIII has its limitations, but I just want to "improve" it a > little, and make it cruise a couple of mph's quicker. > Besides....all my BIG bucks are being poured into my GlaStar I am also > building (about $30k+ in just the panel. Mostly color glass displays. > Have to butcher their molded instument panel to get it to all fit.) > Thank God for airplanes, or I'd have plenty of money to blow on hobbies!!! > LOL > Mike in Utah > > _________________________________________________________________ > Turn searches into helpful donations. Make your search count. > http://click4thecause.live.com/search/charity/default.aspx?source=hmemtagline_donation&FORM=WLMTAG > > > -- > 12/27/2006 12:21 PM > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Idle jet size on the 447
From: "olendorf" <olendorf(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jan 18, 2007
"Idle jet on 447" When I first installed my 447 it ran rich at idle. So rich I couldn't even use the choke at all without the engine stopping. I changed from a 45 idle jet to a 40. It is much better. Been that way now for 180 hours. -------- Scott Olendorf Original Firestar, Rotax 447, Powerfin prop Schenectady, NY http://KolbFirestar.googlepages.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=88762#88762 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: APilot(at)webtv.net
Date: Jan 18, 2007
Subject: Re: buying the parts
My thoughts are parallel to these. 70 mph is my top cruise even though I have seen 100 mph going downhill. Have flown it with and without winter doors, summer doors and windshield. It is just too fast for open air flying enjoyment. I can slow it down to 45 mph and have fair control. All of my mods that I will install in a few weeks are to slow it down. With my new wing tips extensions, vortex generators and various gap seals here and there, I hope to obtain an airplane that will be safe to fly at low level at 35 mph. That is a lot to ask for something that can get as heavy as 1000 lbs. Have even considered going on a diet. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: APilot(at)webtv.net
Date: Jan 18, 2007
Subject: Re: Mk III to Xtra Conversion
The airflow from behind the doors to the prop area is also of interest to me. An upside down fin similar to what we see on race cars which they attach to the trunk lid if attached to the rear belly, might bring air up to the prop. And, maybe some diverters or vortex generators attached to the rear sides of the fuselage would help. I do know that my prop gets more air with my half (summer) doors than with my full coverage winter doors. Someone has mentioned a "V" be installed, but I cannot visualize it. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: JRatcli256(at)aol.com
Date: Jan 19, 2007
Subject: RE-Navman Fuel Gage
Purchased my Navman from Matthew S Palmquist, Maple Vally, WA 98038, Kingair11(at)hotmail.com for $110.16 plus 18.00 shipping (UPS 3-day).This is a new unit purchased thru e-Bay. John Ratcliffe ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Reducing drag
Date: Jan 19, 2007
| Visualize this then, but I am not the only one that has done something like | this to reduce drag | | Ellery Hi Ellery: Built the mkIII in 1991 with fabric V tail on fuselage. Lasted less than 100 hours before prop pulses beat it to pieces. Showed the problem to Ray Stitts at Sun and Fun 1993. He said the only solution would be to put fiberglass insulation in the V to soak up pulses and prevent drumming of the fabric. Other option was replace with sheet metal, which I did. Used .020 alum. Works great. We had a V tail on the Firestar, but the 40 hourse 447 did not cause any damage. john h mkIII ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Reducing drag
Date: Jan 19, 2007
The Polytone along the diagonal fuselage side brace on the passenger side of the MKIII had cracked as far as 18" ahead of the prop on mine Richard Pike Richard: I foresaw the rear longerons and prop pulse problem when I covered my mkIII. I used reinforcing tape and fabric stitching to keep the fabric from drumming in that area. That fabric has nearly 2,600 hours on it. john h mkIII ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 19, 2007
From: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart(at)onlyinternet.net>
Subject: Re: Reducing drag
One way to support the fabric is to use a foam form as shown in: http://www.thirdshift.com/jack/firefly/firefly93.html So far, this fairing has withstood 122 hours of propeller thumping. Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN ________________________________________________________________________________
From: APilot(at)webtv.net
Date: Jan 19, 2007
Subject: Re: Reducing drag
Thanks for the pictures. That is a neat solution and looks good. I left my fuselage open in that area on my Mark III Classic. My thinking was to get the cockpit air to the prop. I am probably only getting drag. Vic in Sacramento ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Reducing drag
Date: Jan 19, 2007
This is how we did the Firestar in 1988. We also placed a belly fabric brace on it same as on my MKIII. It looks better and helps direct and clean up the air a bit to the prop. john h mkIII ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Rick Pearce" <rap(at)isp.com>
Subject: Bummer
Date: Jan 19, 2007
Good news I received a call from the FAA today they want to schedule my inspection next week instead of waiting till April. He wants me to Fax in a copy of my application for the repairman so he can review it. I asked him about not doing inspections and he said as long as I'm a tax payer I'm entitled to a free inspection. I guess if you just stick to your guns and say your not going to pay for a DAR they will come around. Rick Pearce Kolb Mark3C 912 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Rick Pearce" <rap(at)isp.com>
Subject: Tail wheel strut bending
Date: Jan 20, 2007
I made the plunge and ordered a titanium rod for my strut. Real expensive $378 from McMaster-carr. Had to order 36" so I can get two out of the lgth.I actually made a sleeved 4130 tail strut. But the hassle of finding & heat treating was not worth it. The titanium will be allot more corrosion proof. Were I'm looking at putting my Kolb on my floats as soon as I get my sea plane rating. That closed the deal since with the floats the tail will be in the water allot. To change the subject I also ordered the Rans S12 912 carb. conversion kit to reverse the 912 throttle at the eng. This should fix my throttle problem of the cable wanting to buckle going to idle. I'll keep everyone posted on this. So if I can get these two problems solved I can get my plane inspected and flying. Rick Pearce Kolb Mark3C 912ULS ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 20, 2007
Subject: Re: Tail wheel strut bending
From: Herb Gayheart <herbgh(at)juno.com>
Rick and all wondering about titanium for main gear legs? Anyone tried them? Herb I made the plunge and ordered a titanium rod for my strut. Real expensive $378 from McMaster-carr. Had to order 36" so I can get two out of the lgth.I actually made a sleeved 4130 tail strut. But the hassle of finding & heat treating was not worth it. The titanium will be allot more corrosion proof. Were I'm looking at putting my Kolb on my floats as soon as I get my sea plane rating. That closed the deal since with the floats the tail will be in the water allot. To change the subject I also ordered the Rans S12 912 carb. conversion kit to reverse the 912 throttle at the eng. This should fix my throttle problem of the cable wanting to buckle going to idle. I'll keep everyone posted on this. So if I can get these two problems solved I can get my plane inspected and flying. Rick Pearce Kolb Mark3C 912ULS ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Tail wheel strut bending
Date: Jan 20, 2007
I made the plunge and ordered a titanium rod for my strut. But the hassle of finding & heat treating was not worth it. The titanium will be allot more corrosion proof. To change the subject I also ordered the Rans S12 912 carb. conversion kit to reverse the 912 throttle at the eng. Rick Pearce Kolb Mark3C 912ULS Morning Rick: Got a question: How come you went with a rod and not a tube for your tail wheel strut? I use heat treated .120" 4130, which is more than enough strength to do the job on my mkIII. Would the titanium tubing be cheaper than solid rod? You won't have to worry about the tail wheel strut coroding, but the tail post is still 4130. Over the years I have found that shortening the tail wheel strut improves ground handling, reduces weight, and also reduces chances of bending. Curious what RANS throttle reversal kit for the 912 set you back? Take care, john h mkIII ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Mike Welch" <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: Flight training
Date: Jan 20, 2007
With any luck I will be finishing my Mk III sometime this summer. Does anybody have a suggestion as to where or how to get some training in a Mk III.? I had a nasty experience in an ultralight once. We'll be doing it the right way this time!!!! Or....how did you do it? Mike in Utah (by the way....I'm in the extreme bottom west corner...not too far from Las Vegas) _________________________________________________________________ Valentines Day -- Shop for gifts that spell L-O-V-E at MSN Shopping http://shopping.msn.com/content/shp/?ctId=8323,ptnrid=37,ptnrdata=24095&tcode=wlmtagline ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Tail wheel strut bending
Date: Jan 20, 2007
| wondering about titanium for main gear legs? Anyone tried them? Herb Herb: The Wondering Wench has them installed on her Max Air. I would love to have them, if I could afford them. I would go with tubing though, rather than solid rod. Love my titanium tie down stakes. Don't let anyone mess with them. hehehe I believe Arty got her titanium gear legs from the same gent that makes up the titanium tie down states. john h mkIII ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 20, 2007
From: Terry <tkrolfe(at)usadatanet.net>
Subject: Re: Idle jet size on the 447
olendorf wrote: > >"Idle jet on 447" > >When I first installed my 447 it ran rich at idle. So rich I couldn't even use the choke at all without the engine stopping. I changed from a 45 idle jet to a 40. It is much better. Been that way now for 180 hours. > >-------- >Scott Olendorf >Original Firestar, Rotax 447, Powerfin prop >Schenectady, NY >http://KolbFirestar.googlepages.co > > I too had to change my idle jet to a 40 on my 447 when first installing it on my FireFly back in "95". Been that way since. Thought I was the only one until last year when a friend acquired a FireFly and had to do the same to get it to idle properly. Terry - FireFly #95 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Rick Pearce" <rap(at)isp.com>
Subject: Re: Tail wheel strut bending
Date: Jan 20, 2007
$25 ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 9:15 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Tail wheel strut bending > > > > I made the plunge and ordered a titanium rod for my strut. > > But the hassle of finding & heat treating was not worth it. > > The titanium will be allot more corrosion proof. > > To change the subject I also ordered the Rans S12 912 carb. > conversion kit to reverse the 912 throttle at the eng. > > Rick Pearce Kolb Mark3C 912ULS > > > Morning Rick: > > Got a question: How come you went with a rod and not a tube for > your tail wheel strut? I use heat treated .120" 4130, which is more > than enough strength to do the job on my mkIII. Would the titanium > tubing be cheaper than solid rod? > > You won't have to worry about the tail wheel strut coroding, but the > tail post is still 4130. > > Over the years I have found that shortening the tail wheel strut > improves ground handling, reduces weight, and also reduces chances of > bending. > > Curious what RANS throttle reversal kit for the 912 set you back? > > Take care, > > john h > mkIII > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Tail wheel strut bending
Date: Jan 20, 2007
From: "Rick Pearce" | $25 Hi Rick: Was wondering if titanium tubing would have been less expensive than solid rod? Also wondering if tubing may not have been sufficient material to work as a tail wheel strut? Thanks for the throttle info. john h mkIII ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "David Kulp" <undoctor(at)rcn.com>
Subject: Re: Tail wheel strut bending
Date: Jan 21, 2007
Kolbers, I've watched the thread about bending the tailwheel strut, including the question of replacing with a solid rod rather than a tube. I'd like to note that when considering your choice it'd be well to consider the resistance to bending in addition to weight and cost. I tube is inherently more rigid and resistant to bending than a solid rod even with considerably less mass and weight. The reason is because a rod only has surface tension on the one surface for the length of the rod, whereas a tube has two surfaces; both the OD surface and the ID surface; hence, almost double the surface tension of a rod. Surface tension is the reason it's possible to float a piece of metal on water (you all remember the kids trick of putting a straight pin on a piece of tissue paper floating in a glass of water, and when the tissue gets sogged and sinks, the pin is left "floating" - not really floating in the sense of displacing an equal weight of water, but of "floating" on the surface tension of the water in the glass) and why water skeeters can casually skate on the surface of a pond with only the balls of their little feet making contact with the water. A note of interest for those who recognize the validity of the Bible, it is worthwhile to realize that all miracles are consistent with nature, i.e., hungry Jesus turning rock into bread was a definite no-no, but when the two walked on the water, it was a kind of strengthening or extension of the laws of nature, not a contradiction of those laws. Water to wine was accelerated fermentation, etc. Cool, huh. (This "aside" IS Kolb related because without the laws of nature, air wouldn't support a Kolb and they'd just be funny-looking go-karts) Anyway, back to the initial thought, please research the required wall thickness - a piece of discarded TV antennae will NOT do the trick - but the bottom line is, far less metal will provide far greater strength using tubing rather than with a rod. Dave Kulp Bethlehem, PA ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Tail wheel strut bending
Date: Jan 21, 2007
Anyway, back to the initial thought, please research the required wall thickness - a piece of discarded TV antennae will NOT do the trick - but the bottom line is, far less metal will provide far greater strength using tubing rather than with a rod. Dave Kulp Bethlehem, PA Dave: Lot depends on how the strut is heat treated, tube or rod. My strut has been thoroughly tested over more than 2,500 hours in extreme conditions with, probably, more tail wheel weight than most mkIII's. What I fly with works well, is reliable, and will get you there and back home. Do have a problem with buoyancy. Can not get my tail wheel strut to float. ;-) john h in soggy hauck's holler ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Ms. Dixie update
From: "Paul Petty" <paulpetty(at)myway.com>
Date: Jan 21, 2007
Hey gang, Intalling the wireing harness in Ms Dixie today! Thought some of you might enjoy a few pics. Just ate lunch and headed back to the shop. FYI these Adel clamps work great to secure any wireing harness but are hell to install. enjoy..... http://groups.msn.com/AerialWorld/kolbra012.msnw?Page=5 -------- Paul Petty Kolbra #12 Ms Dixie painting and reassembly Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=89322#89322 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 21, 2007
From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Tail wheel strut bending
At 12:20 PM 1/21/2007, David Kulp wrote: >... I tube is inherently more rigid and resistant to bending than a solid >rod even with considerably less mass and weight. The reason is because a >rod only has surface tension on the one surface for the length of the rod, >whereas a tube has two surfaces; both the OD surface and the ID surface; >hence, almost double the surface tension of a rod... Sorry, but this is incorrect. Surface tension is a phenomenon relating only to liquids, not to solids. A solid's strength is a function of stress, or force per cross sectional area. A solid bar is always stronger (and stiffer) than the same diameter tubing. Actually, in bending, it's a matter of moment of inertia. For the same weight, a tube will be stiffer, yes, because you can make it larger diameter. You are correct that the outer fibers are the most important; moment of inertia equals pi*r^4/4 (double the diameter and it's 16 times stiffer). Thus the difference between a solid bar and a piece of tubing isn't that much. For example, a 1" solid bar is about 46% stiffer than a 1" diameter 1/8" wall tubing. The 1" solid bar is only 6.7% stiffer than a 1" diameter 1/4" wall tubing... but it IS stiffer. -Dana -- -- There are no bugs in this software, only unfulfilled features. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Jim Kmet" <jlsk1(at)frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: Tail wheel strut bending
Date: Jan 21, 2007
That settles it, I`m going to drill out my solid rod to make it hollow, I`ll have the best of both. : ) ----- Original Message ----- From: Dana Hague To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 5:38 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Tail wheel strut bending At 12:20 PM 1/21/2007, David Kulp wrote: ... I tube is inherently more rigid and resistant to bending than a solid rod even with considerably less mass and weight. The reason is because a rod only has surface tension on the one surface for the length of the rod, whereas a tube has two surfaces; both the OD surface and the ID surface; hence, almost double the surface tension of a rod... Sorry, but this is incorrect. Surface tension is a phenomenon relating only to liquids, not to solids. A solid's strength is a function of stress, or force per cross sectional area. A solid bar is always stronger (and stiffer) than the same diameter tubing. Actually, in bending, it's a matter of moment of inertia. For the same weight, a tube will be stiffer, yes, because you can make it larger diameter. You are correct that the outer fibers are the most important; moment of inertia equals pi*r^4/4 (double the diameter and it's 16 times stiffer). Thus the difference between a solid bar and a piece of tubing isn't that much. For example, a 1" solid bar is about 46% stiffer than a 1" diameter 1/8" wall tubing. The 1" solid bar is only 6.7% stiffer than a 1" diameter 1/4" wall tubing... but it IS stiffer. -Dana -- -- There are no bugs in this software, only unfulfilled features. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "David Key" <dhkey(at)msn.com>
Subject: Re: Tail wheel strut bending
Date: Jan 21, 2007
Ouch! ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 22, 2007
From: "Vic Peters" <vicsvinyl(at)verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Tail wheel strut bending
Would you rather break the tail rod (easily replaceable) or tear off the lower verticl stab. Vic Me. ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Tail wheel strut bending
From: "Rex Rodebush" <rrodebush(at)tema.net>
Date: Jan 22, 2007
Yes, the solid rod is stronger and stiffer than a tube of the same diameter. However, the strength to weight ratio of the tube is much higher. Rex Rodebush Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=89520#89520 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Tail wheel strut bending
Date: Jan 22, 2007
Would you rather break the tail rod (easily replaceable) or tear off the lower verticl stab. Vic Hi Ya'll: Don't want to do either. john h mkIII ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: mkIII accident
From: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot1(at)comcast.net>
Date: Jan 22, 2007
The FAA Registry says: RUNYAN, PAUL L 2209 NW BENTON ST CAMAS, WASHINGTON 98607 -------- John Williamson Arlington, TX Kolbra, 912ULS http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot1 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=89529#89529 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 22, 2007
From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Tail wheel strut bending
At 10:19 AM 1/22/2007, David Kulp wrote: > >Dana, I'm not a metalurgist, but you contradict one I've discussed it with. > Perhaps he misunderstood your question, or you misunderstood his answer (the solid bar is stronger but the strength to weight ratio of the tube is higher as I said). I'm not a metallurgist but I _am_ an aerospace engineer. -Dana -- -- There are no bugs in this software, only unfulfilled features. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 22, 2007
From: TheWanderingWench <thewanderingwench(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: mkIII accident
I know Paul well - he's a member of our UFO (Ultralight Flyers Organization) club which has members throughout the Portland area. I'll contact him - but my guess is that he sold the Kolb and wasn't the pilot. Arty --- John Williamson wrote: > > > The FAA Registry says: > RUNYAN, PAUL L > 2209 NW BENTON ST > CAMAS, WASHINGTON 98607 > > -------- > John Williamson > Arlington, TX > > Kolbra, 912ULS > http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot1 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=89529#89529 > > > > > > > > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List > > Web Forums! > > > > > www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com "Life's a daring adventure or nothing" Helen Keller "I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death." ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: So long trusty Firestar!
From: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com>
Date: Jan 22, 2007
Well with my re-healing from my Aorta, abdominal Aneurism now three months in the making (a world record, by the way, as I flat lined), my interests and needs have changed. The Kolb with trailer goes on the block effective today. I really wanted to continue, however, with intermittence dizzy spells that may re-occur, I am reluctant to get in the air by myself. I realize this isn't the place to sell my Kolb, but if anyone knows anyone that would be interested, this would be the place to ask. I have had a lot of fun with it and this web site, including the intermittent attitudes (water unstirred becomes stagnant). The Firestar is a 1991 with a 503 DIDC Rotax engine with 317 hours. It is great in every way as I have had it examined by a rotax mechanic here at my field. The plane has new duel fuel pumps with check valves, new six gallon fuel tank, new wiring, new glass panel gauges for both flight and engin information, nearly new IVO two blade adjustable prop with spacer, backup 3-1/4" ASI, battery, electronic digital compass and new gap seal assembly. It will be sold with a open 14 foot trailer which is a brand new single axle. The asking price for everything is $ 6,500. I am located in Central Ohio and my phone number is 740-936-6025. If I am not there, leave a message after pressing the digit "one". E-mail address is flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com I have the history from the build time to present. Ohio Ralph Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=89556#89556 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Mike Welch" <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: Pilot's name in Utah accident
Date: Jan 22, 2007
As I stated in a previous message I live only a few minutes drive to Hurricane, Utah. Although I'm new to the area I do think I can call a couple of people and find out some specific facts. I can tell you one thing, though. I worked outside all day moving some garage and yard stuff to my storage unit on Saturday, and the weather was absolutely beautiful...(it's like that almost every day!!) ps. I moved some stuff to storage to clear my yard so that I can begin construction on my "airplane shop". I am going to build a 20' X 44' shop in my backyard. I also have to build my wife a pool. That's the deal...shop for me, pool for her. In case you aren't aware....St George is in the southwest corner of the state. Near Grand Canyon, Las Vegas, etc. We're usually 15 degrees warmer than the rest of the state. There are about 50% mormon people here (they prefer to be called "LDS"'s). I'm NOT an LDS, but they sure are NICE people!! They go out of their way to be friendly and help out!! _________________________________________________________________ Valentines Day -- Shop for gifts that spell L-O-V-E at MSN Shopping http://shopping.msn.com/content/shp/?ctId=8323,ptnrid=37,ptnrdata=24095&tcode=wlmtagline ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Wayne T. McCullough" <blackbird754(at)alltel.net>
Subject: Re: LDS
Date: Jan 22, 2007
You know, I nearly fell out of MY chair laughing.........at this acroynm?....Good grief....I'm glad to know that I am not the only one paying attention..... I just love all of the Kolb lurkers out there........... Still here.. WT ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 22, 2007
From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Tail wheel strut bending
At 05:06 PM 1/22/2007, David Kulp wrote: >Makes me wonder about the time I was working on my US and an electrical >engineer flew in. He saw me soldering joints for extra strength and he >admonished me to crimp ONLY. He said that the solder would fracture with >the vibration but the simple crimp wouldn't. When does one believe an expert?? He has a good point. When you solder a connection, the solder flows into the wires and you have what's essentially a solid wire... which isn't as flexible as the original multi stranded wire. I still tend to solder wires, though... maybe because I don't have a good crimping tool. Too many of my crimped connections pull out of the terminal... but the wire doesn't break. -Dana -- -- There are no bugs in this software, only unfulfilled features. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "tc1917" <tc1917(at)hughes.net>
Subject: kolb list
Date: Jan 23, 2007
just got me an old classic, the twinstar. has some damage to a wing but not a big problem when you recover it. it is in really excellent shape for its age. gonna fix it up and whatever, keep or sell, depending. still have a Mk III frame and boom in my hanger to start work on. dont really know what it is worth but I have seen it fly. with a 503 it flys like a KOLB. love the idea of the drop down nose cone. you dont get any easier than that. it is truely an open flying plane. will put the extra support angles in the wing when I do it. or, is anyone interested in doing it themselves. Not adverse to selling it right now. Ted Cowan, Alabama ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "David Key" <dhkey(at)msn.com>
Subject: Mark Vaughn
Date: Jan 23, 2007
I'm not a Kolb Pro but the 503 is a great engine, good median between power and GPH. Be sure to get large gas tanks (>10 gal total) if you plan on XCing. It's much easier to set up a Kolb than a hang glider, have you been to Wallaby Ranch? I have some time doing hang gliding there got up to 6k agl and have a 75 mile XC. I think there's another Hanggliding pilot on the list. The Kolbs drop like a rock so look down for a field if something happens not out for a field. Consider the Firestar II with a 503. If you hanglide you might want the visibility and openness. My wife is 4'11 too if you go with the Mark II or III then look into getting one of those 3 inch seat pads for her. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "flykolb" <flykolb(at)wowway.com>
Subject: Kolb glider
Date: Jan 23, 2007
"The Kolbs drop like a rock" - not really! Granted, it is not like a glider, but having experienced at least ten "engine outs" from as low as 300 feet to as high as 2000 feet, the Mark III does give you some time to land. But in any plane, even a GA, it is always a good idea (read life saver) to have a potential landing site picked out. Jim Mark III ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "David Key" <dhkey(at)msn.com>
Subject: Kolb glider
Date: Jan 23, 2007
Let me rephrase it then, I don't know many other planes that have a worse glide ratio. >From: "flykolb" <flykolb(at)wowway.com> >Reply-To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com >To: >Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb glider >Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 08:27:50 -0500 > >"The Kolbs drop like a rock" - not really! Granted, it is not like a >glider, but having experienced at least ten "engine outs" from as low as >300 feet to as high as 2000 feet, the Mark III does give you some time to >land. But in any plane, even a GA, it is always a good idea (read life >saver) to have a potential landing site picked out. > >Jim >Mark III ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Mark Vaughn
Date: Jan 23, 2007
From: knowvne(at)aol.com
HAVE I BEEN TO WALLABY HAHAHAHAHAHA SEE ATTACHED 8-) ANYTHING LOOK FAMILURE? 8-) BY THE WAY I'M ALSO A COMMERCIAL PHOTOGRAPHER... I VISIT WALLABY JUST ABOUT EVERY SPRING TO SHAKE OFF THE WINTER RUST IN PREP FOR OUR NEW ENGLAND FLYING SEASON... ACTUALLY I MAY BE DOWN AGAIN THIS SPRING TO TRY AND SELL MY CURRENT HG AND EYEBALL THE NEW KOLBS AT SUN-N-FUN.... THANKS FOR THE INFO... I WAS ALREADY CONSIDERING THE KOLB II WITH A 20 GALLON TANK 8-) Mark Vaughn -----Original Message----- From: dhkey(at)msn.com To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 7:48 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Mark Vaughn =C2- I'm not a Kolb Pro but the 503 is a great engine, good median between power and GPH. Be sure to get large gas tanks (>10 gal total) if you plan on XCing.=C2- =C2- It's much easier to set up a Kolb than a hang glider, have you been to Wallaby Ranch? I have some time doing hang gliding there got up to 6k agl and have a 75 mile XC.=C2- =C2- I think there's another Hanggliding pilot on the list. The Kolbs drop like a rock so look down for a field if something happens not out for a field.=C2- =C2- Consider the Firestar II with a 503. If you hanglide you might want the visibility and openness.=C2- =C2- My wife is 4'11 too if you go with the Mark II or III then look into getting one of those 3 inch seat pads for her.=C2- =C2- =C2- ============C2- ============C2- ============C2- =C2- =C2- ________________________________________________________________________ across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: APilot(at)webtv.net
Date: Jan 23, 2007
Subject: Re: Kolb glider
Very good point. Another reason to become proficient at the 180 degree turn back to the runway. Practice at altitude - use it in an emergency. I have had well over a dozen engine outs in ultralights which were all my fault. And two in Cessna 150's and one was my fault. But, no matter whose fault it is, it is good to have a safe place to land when to ole beater quits.. ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: FLAME OUTS
Date: Jan 23, 2007
From: knowvne(at)aol.com
This raises a question in my mind regarding flame outs in a Kolb... IF your high enough to do the 180 you'll be down wind... Is the Kolb Firestar Rated for Side Slipping so to get as close to the end of he field as possible ???? I notice they don't have flaps but flaperons.... Can you slip one to the deck... I did this in 152s all the time... BTW Given youve had so many flame outs and they've all been your fault maybe you should take up Hang Gliding... 8-) Mark Vaughn -----Original Message----- From: APilot(at)webtv.net To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 9:19 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb glider Very good point. Another reason to become proficient at the 180 degree turn back to the runway. Practice at altitude - use it in an emergency. I have had well over a dozen engine outs in ultralights which were all my fault. And two in Cessna 150's and one was my fault. But, no matter whose fault it is, it is good to have a safe place to land when to ole beater quits.. ________________________________________________________________________ across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: APilot(at)webtv.net
Date: Jan 23, 2007
Subject: Kolb glider
Race for worst glide ratio..........Ercoupe or Piper Colt or Kolb? ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 23, 2007
From: "Vic Peters" <vicsvinyl(at)verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Pilot's name in Utah accident
As you are pretty close I suppose you will be at Monument Valley in May for the Disorganised Annual Kolb Fly-In. Cheers Pat Hey Pat ,Don't you mean DAKFI I'd guess Latter Day Saints to your other ques. Vic Maine ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 23, 2007
From: "Vic Peters" <vicsvinyl(at)verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Pilot's name in Utah accident
Sorry Pat, UUKMVF Vic Maine ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 23, 2007
From: "Vic Peters" <vicsvinyl(at)verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Tail wheel strut bending
"I still tend to solder wires, though... maybe because I don't have a good crimping tool. Too many of my crimped connections pull out of the terminal... but the wire doesn't break." -Dana I'm with you on the soldered wires. Solder may crack but won't fall or pull out of the terminal. I simply go the extra mile and put 2 layers of heat shrink past any solder in the wire for better flex. Vic Me. ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Kolb glider
Date: Jan 23, 2007
From: n27sb(at)aol.com
To be Fair in this comparison I think you need to add in the factor of available landing sites that offer no damage to the aircraft. My Long-EZ had a glide ratio of over 20 to 1 with the blades stopped but there are few and far between landing sites. In comparison, my Firefly on floats probably has less than 8 to 1 but even at an altitude of 100 ft I can land with no damage 99.99999% of the time. Point is, There are other factors more important than Glide ratio. Steve FF #007 on Floats -----Original Message----- From: flykolb(at)wowway.com Sent: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 8:27 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb glider "The Kolbs drop like a rock" - not really! Granted, it is not like a glider, but having experienced at least ten "engine outs" from as low as 300 feet to as high as 2000 feet, the Mark III does give you some time to land. But in any plane, even a GA, it is always a good idea (read life saver) to have a potential landing site picked out. Jim Mark III ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb glider
Date: Jan 23, 2007
David Kolbs are ultra low speed STOL airplanes. They have very large props for their size and weight that create considerable drag when they stop. But it is that large prop that makes these airplanes fly as well as they do. If you compare a Kolb to a similar type of aircraft they do fairly well. You appear to be comparing them to gliders or other streamlined GA aircraft. In a airplane everything is a tradeoff. If we were to compare the features that these planes were designed for against most any other airplane we would blow them away. Again everything is a trade off and comparisons with other categories of aircraft just don't make sense. Rick Neilsen Redrive VW powered MKIIIc ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Key" <dhkey(at)msn.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 8:45 AM Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Kolb glider > > Let me rephrase it then, I don't know many other planes that have a worse > glide ratio. > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Mike Welch" <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: On the way to the Fly-In
Date: Jan 23, 2007
Hey Pat, It would be nice if you dropped by and said 'Hi" on your way to the Fly-In. Like I said, I live in the southwest corner of Utah, really close to Zion (with a Z) & Bryce National Parks. From Las Vegas, you have to drive through St. George, anyway, to get to where you're headed. To the rest of the Kolbers intending on being at the Monument Valley Fly-In....is there a "staff" that oversees some of the safety issues?? I ask this, because I was a member of a light plane/ultralight organization, and we had many local fly-ins. We also had some near disasters!!!! Example: at one particular location (we even asked the local newspaper to attend...for good PR) we had TWO (!!!!) airplanes try to take off at the exact same time (on crossing runways). One airplane lifted off, the other had to yank a hard right into the grass, almost tipping over. Man, I'm telling ya', this was really close to two airplanes driving into each other. And one of them was an instructor WITH a student pilot. I said all that to say this: There absolutely HAS to be some order to a fly-in, otherwise it will indeed be "disorganized" and people can very easily be hurt. It was after a couple of incidents like this that we (our club) formulated "RULES" of safely. We had a designated Safety Officer responsible for who came and went, and only when he said it was okay to do so. This type of approach to safety, without a doubt, improved everyones well-being, gave peace of mind, and helped put our fly-ins in the "Organized" catagory. To give you an idea of the kind of rules we came up with, here are a couple: 1) Upon arriving at the airfield, you have to adhere to the previously established traffic pattern. 2) Once you've landed, you will NOT start your engine and taxi unless the Safety Officer says you can. 3) If you take off during the Fly-In, the Safety Officer must know your intensions. Like; are you leaving to go home, do some pleasure flying, pattern work, etc. This let others know what you're up to. We had a couple of other rules, but you get the idea. I have been (flown my Cessna 172) to many airshows. At "Golden State Airshow" at Merced, CA, there were at least 10 (!!!) airplanes in the pattern at any given time. Yet, it was very well organized and quite safe. If I were given the choice of "flying versus driving" to a Fly-In, I'd rather drive.....if there are NO RULES. But that just me..... : ) Mike in Utah _________________________________________________________________ Invite your Hotmail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: On the way to the Fly-In
From: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot1(at)comcast.net>
Date: Jan 23, 2007
Mike and All, The 5th Annual Monument Valley Kolb Gathering has no staff, we don't want no staff and don't need no staff. Everyone that shows up at Goulding's is responsible for everthing they do or want to do. We have lots of rules.... They are called the FAR's. Everyone has to fly by them. When you do you stay safe. Goulding's is a Private Airport so their rules apply also. I can imagine that if anyone tried to be in charge, they would be run off by the the rest of the laid back Kolber's. -------- John Williamson Arlington, TX Kolbra, 912ULS http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot1 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=89760#89760 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "David Key" <dhkey(at)msn.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb glider
Date: Jan 23, 2007
sometimes when someone is new to Kolbs it's a wise idea to clue them into the fact that they wont have as much glide as they did in other aircraft. People tend to compare things that they shouldn't especially when they don't have experience with them. I'm sticking with they drop like a rock and that's where I'll look for my fields, you do whatever works for you. ;-) >From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM(at)comcast.net> >Reply-To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com >To: >Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb glider >Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 11:17:10 -0500 > > > >David > >Kolbs are ultra low speed STOL airplanes. They have very large props for >their size and weight that create considerable drag when they stop. But it >is that large prop that makes these airplanes fly as well as they do. If >you compare a Kolb to a similar type of aircraft they do fairly well. You >appear to be comparing them to gliders or other streamlined GA aircraft. In >a airplane everything is a tradeoff. If we were to compare the features >that these planes were designed for against most any other airplane we >would blow them away. Again everything is a trade off and comparisons with >other categories of aircraft just don't make sense. > >Rick Neilsen >Redrive VW powered MKIIIc > > >----- Original Message ----- From: "David Key" <dhkey(at)msn.com> >To: >Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 8:45 AM >Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Kolb glider > > >> >>Let me rephrase it then, I don't know many other planes that have a worse >>glide ratio. >> >> > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Mike Welch" <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: On the way to the Fly-In
Date: Jan 23, 2007
John, No one said a damn thing about "taking charge". And if that's what you got out of my question, then you weren't listening. Mike in Utah >From: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot1(at)comcast.net> >Reply-To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com >To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com >Subject: Kolb-List: Re: On the way to the Fly-In >Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 08:47:08 -0800 > > > >Mike and All, > >The 5th Annual Monument Valley Kolb Gathering has no staff, we don't want >no staff and don't need no staff. > >Everyone that shows up at Goulding's is responsible for everthing they do >or want to do. > >We have lots of rules.... They are called the FAR's. Everyone has to fly by >them. When you do you stay safe. Goulding's is a Private Airport so their >rules apply also. > >I can imagine that if anyone tried to be in charge, they would be run off >by the the rest of the laid back Kolber's. > >-------- >John Williamson >Arlington, TX > >Kolbra, 912ULS >http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot1 > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=89760#89760 > > _________________________________________________________________ Get Hilary Duffs homepage with her photos, music, and more. http://celebrities.live.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb glider
Date: Jan 23, 2007
Hello, My advise to all Kolb newbees, Please ignore the advise of "the experts" who claim to have experienced 10 or 12 engine outs. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 23, 2007
From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Kolb glider
At 09:43 AM 1/23/2007, APilot(at)webtv.net wrote: > >Race for worst glide ratio..........Ercoupe or Piper Colt or Kolb? Hah! I haven't flown my Kolb yet, but it CAN'T be worse than the Quicksilver I was flying last year! OTOH, I actually soared my T-Craft a couple of times with the engine off.... -Dana -- -- But if we LEGALIZE it, we can't take your HOUSE! ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: 447 torque values
From: "olendorf" <olendorf(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jan 23, 2007
Guys, I'm looking for bolt torque specs for the crankcase bolts for the new style 447. I found a few references to crankcase screws in CPS catalogs and elsewhere but it doesn't seem to jive. I have bolts with 13mm heads and that doesn't match anything on the list. Can someone with an Authorized Rotax manual post the numbers here? Thanks so much. -------- Scott Olendorf Original Firestar, Rotax 447, Powerfin prop Schenectady, NY http://KolbFirestar.googlepages.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=89787#89787 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 23, 2007
From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb glider
At 10:52 AM 1/23/2007, n27sb(at)aol.com wrote: >To be Fair in this comparison I think you need to add in the factor of >available landing sites that offer no damage...my Firefly on floats >probably has less than 8 to 1 but even at an altitude of 100 ft I can land >with no damage 99.99999% of the time. Point is, There are other factors >more important than Glide ratio. True, I fly PPG too... an unpowered PG does about 8:1 but it's probably closer to 6:1 with a stopped motor... but when you can fly a 50' circle and land with a few running steps even in no wind, you have a large pick of landing sites even with the crappy ratio. -Dana -- -- But if we LEGALIZE it, we can't take your HOUSE! ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 23, 2007
Subject: Kolb glider
From: "Jim Dunn" <jim@tru-cast.com>
I sold my Quicksilver MX in Aug 2006 to buy a Kolb Firefly (which I got in October). I expected the Firefly to glide better, but it's actually worse. > > Hah! I haven't flown my Kolb yet, but it CAN'T be worse than the > Quicksilver I was flying last year! ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "flykolb" <flykolb(at)wowway.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb glider
Date: Jan 23, 2007
I certainly do not claim to be an "expert" nor do I "claim" to have had at least 10 engines out - it's a fact Jack! All I'm saying is that a Kolb does not "drop like a rock" - which is straight down! Many on the Kolb list have experienced engine failure and have "glided" to a safe landing. Some have not but even those did not "drop like a rock". I just don't want to scare people who think that when an engine quits on any plane it "drops out of the sky". Always have a good landing site picked out no matter what you fly. Peace and good flying. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eugene Zimmerman" <etzim62(at)earthlink.net> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 12:49 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb glider > > Hello, > > My advise to all Kolb newbees, > > Please ignore the advise of "the experts" who claim to have > experienced 10 or 12 engine outs. > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Kolb glider
From: "N111KX (Kip)" <n111kx(at)mindspring.com>
Date: Jan 23, 2007
There are some dead-stick videos here where, for a rock, I have lot's of time to enjoy the view... Kip http://gyrobuilder.homelinux.org/gallery2/v/monarch_flight/july2006/?g2_page=4 -------- Kip Firestar II (born September 2000) Atlanta, GA N111KX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=89830#89830 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: GeoR38(at)aol.com
Date: Jan 23, 2007
Subject: Re: Kolb glider
In a message dated 1/23/2007 3:07:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, n111kx(at)mindspring.com writes: http://gyrobuilder.homelinux.org/gallery2/v/monarch_flight/july2006/?g2_page=4 I can't let you guys get away with such bad press on the Kolb glide, which admittedly is by no means superior, but it is not as bad as the sound of your dialog. I am a glider pilot, albeit way back in '80 in El Paso and Las Cruzes NM, so I actually know the L/D that real gliders have. my time in the Schweizer 233 and the 126 produced 20 to 1 or 25 to 1 L/D. On the field was an old old glider used before the Big One in the '30s and it had an L/D of 11 to 1. It was actually built a little like the Firestar inasmuch as it was a high wing with a boom going back to the tail and a semi-open cockpit. It was a glider only. And it was 11:1. I have tested my Firestar KX many times and it always tests our at 9 or 9.5 to1. But every test was with the engine at idle.You could tell that the spinning prop was a brake as it was necessary to fire up the RPMs quite high, at least above 3000 rpm,Afore any assist was felt on the airframe., And I do not mean the aircraft was anywhere near climb mode. It was still mushing, but it seemed that the prop was not offering drag around that rpm. I have never killed power completely, but I suspect that if the prop were stopped, the L/D would probably increase to at least 10:1....which is close to that ol training glider on my field way back in '80 My Firestar only has a 5 rib wing and is probably a little liter than the KXP, but a heavier glider has more penetration so ....who knows what the KXP has? Firestar Driver from The Villages Florida George Randolph ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: KOLB FIRE STAR L/D
Date: Jan 23, 2007
From: knowvne(at)aol.com
WHEN FLYING MY HANG GLIDER THE TOP OF EVERY THERMAL OR CLOUD BASE ( WHICH EVER COMES FIRST ) IS A FLAME OUT...... MY GLIDERS L/D IS 15:1 in... WHAT I'LL NEED TO LEARN IS WHAT THE L/D OF A FLAMED OUT KOLB FIRESTAR 2 IS.... HAVE ANY OF YOU ONE EVER TRIED USING A DRAG CHUTE FOR GETTING INTO A TIGHT LZ ?????? AND I DON'T MEAN YOUR BRS 8-) Mark Vaughn -----Original Message----- From: flykolb(at)wowway.com To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 2:31 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb glider I certainly do not claim to be an "expert" nor do I "claim" to have had at least 10 engines out - it's a fact Jack! All I'm saying is that a Kolb does not "drop like a rock" - which is straight down! Many on the Kolb list have experienced engine failure and have "glided" to a safe landing. Some have not but even those did not "drop like a rock". I just don't want to scare people who think that when an engine quits on any plane it "drops out of the sky". Always have a good landing site picked out no matter what you fly. Peace and good flying. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eugene Zimmerman" <etzim62(at)earthlink.net> To: Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 12:49 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb glider > > Hello, > > My advise to all Kolb newbees, > > Please ignore the advise of "the experts" who claim to have > experienced 10 or 12 engine outs. > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Mark-II for Sale
Date: Jan 23, 2007
From: "Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL" <Dennis.Kirby(at)kirtland.af.mil>
Kolb Friends - An acquaintance of mine has a Kolb Twinstar Mark-II for sale. I offered to post details on this List, as he is not a List member. Our newest List member, Mark Vaughn, is looking for a "Kolb II." Could this be the one? Dennis Kirby $8500 (it has no engine) Completely reworked 2 years ago, everything new. Fully enclosed, custom fiberglass nosecone (more pointed than stock) Full span ailerons, (no flaps - it's a Mark-II). Electric trim, strobe, dual controls, nice seats & interior. Ad & pictures are listed in Barnstormers. Owner: Duane Brooks, Stapleton GA, (706)547-6900. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 23, 2007
From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Kolb glider
At 01:45 PM 1/23/2007, Jim Dunn wrote: > >I sold my Quicksilver MX in Aug 2006 to buy a Kolb Firefly (which I got in >October). I expected the Firefly to glide better, but it's actually >worse. Hmmm, one of the guys I was sharing an MX with flew my Ultrastar a few times (before I bought it) and said compared to the MX, "it's a real floater". I don't know how the US glide compares to the Firefly, though. Hopefully in a month or two I'll see for myself... -Dana -- -- But if we LEGALIZE it, we can't take your HOUSE!


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