Kolb-Archive.digest.vol-gs
April 27, 2007 - June 03, 2007
john h
mkIII
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Subject: | Re: Mo- Skeeters |
From: | "Dave Rains" <RangeFlyer72(at)yahoo.com> |
Com-0n ,bring yur squashers, we be ready fer yu! bet you carry a sling shot for
protection, or maybe a garlic neclace. Aint scaeeeerd of no kolb drivers...
Super Skeeter
(got more hours in the beast than you, I'll bet)
the T27 Alpha Pilot
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Subject: | Re: Flimsy Little paper Planes |
From: | "Dave Rains" <RangeFlyer72(at)yahoo.com> |
Yeah, I don't know the details about the Highlander's airframe, the kolb is very
well designed. Another nice thing about the Kolbra is the tandum seating.
In my line of work this is very important. The ability to maintain eye contact
with a suspect on the ground is invaluable. Just as an addition, I'll have
another opportunity to destroy Will's plane this fall on a Homeland Security Mission.
Sorry Will, but we must all make sacrifices.
Skeeter.
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From: | "Wayne T. McCullough" <blackbird754(at)alltel.net> |
Subject: | Re: Sport pilot license |
Ok guys,
Bear with me.............LOL..............First of all the Kolbra is coming
just fine...............Just wish I had more time to work on
it....LOL..........ain't retired yet.............
In our area it is hard to find a current flight instructor with a good
personality and information also...........We did the written exam in the
spring of last year and everyone in the club who was in the class went and
passed the written in Statesboro, Ga @ Pegasus flight school..........They
are now looking into the LSA class..........Great people.
However, we used Mark Burpee of Destination Flight of 3 rivers
Michigan.......Met him at Sun-n-fun.....teaches powered parachute and fixed
wing..............But he and his flight school have 2 instructors who are
willing to travel.........
One of my friends bought a Sport Rally LSA..........and it was just
delivered.........7Hrs. non-stop..........from Michigan to 9GA1 Briar Patch
Springfield, GA.................WOW................34 gallons of
gas...........BUT.............$ 110,000.00 later.........
Gotta have my Kolbra...............and gonna get their
too...........LOL....................Mark charges $ 110.00 an hour wet, for
his aircraft and will train you in a N-numbered two seater for $ 30.00 per
hour...............In the fall, we will have 7 members splitting the
cost..........This is the way to go..................
Building still.........But life is getting in the way.........LOL
Wayne McCullough
Springfield, Georgia
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From: "Jimmy" <jhankin(at)planters.net>
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Sport pilot license
>
> Wayne,
>
> I would be very glad to know more about that class, please let me know
> more of the details when you have them.
>
> How is your Kobra coming?
>
> Jimmy Hankinson
> 912-863-7384
> Firefly #035, (N6007L)
> JYL (Sylvania)
> Pegasus Field (Home)
> 2000 Feet X 100 Feet- Grass
> Rocky Ford, Georgia
>
>
> --
>
>
>
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From: | "Mike Welch" <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com> |
Subject: | GPS and new technologies |
Dana, and all others,
Regarding GPS, if you do anything more than your local flights, I can't
imagine not having a GPS with you. I am now on my second GPS, a Garmin
296. (My first GPS was a Garmin 95XL, which made me think flight planning
and navigation couldn't get any better. I was wrong. Wow, what a
difference a few years make in electronics!!!
First, just about everything you need to know is right in your hand.
Airspeed, altitude, and a visual of exactly where you are above the ground.
I found the "B Class Airspace" boundaries especially useful on my recent
800+ mile cross country. The "pointing arrow" function on the 296 is also
very cool. You push a toggle to send the pointing arrow across your
screen, and when it lands on whatever you want, a window pops up and
displays the information; like airport identifier, and so forth.
For my experience, I wouldn't leave home without it!!!
Now, with all that wonderful stuff having been said about GPS's, the most
important aspect of cross country navigation is YOUR piloting skills. A GPS
can fail. ( It happened to me during severe turbulence for a few
minutes...kind of skeerd me!) If you fly out of your normal flight routine
and into new frontiers, i.e....cross country, the most important thing you
need is a compass, a watch, and a chart (sectional). And tons of flight
planning, alternate routes, etc. A good pilot will provide for himself ALL
(within reason) the available tools he can to completely finish the intended
flight. And this includes all aspects of "dead reckoning". A GPS is
awesome, but don't make it your only source of navigation.
If Hansel and Grettel had a GPS, I doubt VERY seriously they would have
relied on the bread crumbs!!! They shoulda had a compass and a watch, too.
Kolbs rule!! (To make this a legal post)
Mike in SW Somewhere 18.3 miles North
of the Arizona border, 14.76 miles east of the Nevada border
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Subject: | Re: GPS and new technologies |
From: | "George Alexander" <gtalexander(at)att.net> |
Mike:
Airspeed on a hand held GPS????
mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.co wrote:
> Dana, and all others,
>
>
>
> I am now on my second GPS, a Garmin 296.
>
>
>
> First, just about everything you need to know is right in your hand.
> Airspeed, altitude, and a visual of exactly where you are above the ground.
>
>
>
> Mike in SW Somewhere 18.3 miles North
> of the Arizona border, 14.76 miles east of the Nevada border
>
>
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Subject: | Rust in the scratches on Rudder and Wing attach point |
From: | "Matt Hancuh" <mhancuh(at)msn.com> |
On an old Ultrastar.
My first instinct is to sand them down to metal and paint them with some rustoleum
or outdoor enamel.
Should I even be concerned about these shallow scratches? Is there a better thing
to do?
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From: | "Mike Welch" <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com> |
Subject: | Re: GPS and new technologies |
Picky, picky, picky. :-)
>From: "George Alexander" <gtalexander(at)att.net>
>Reply-To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
>To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
>Subject: Kolb-List: Re: GPS and new technologies
>Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 17:38:39 -0700
>
>
>Mike:
>
>Airspeed on a hand held GPS????
>
>
>mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.co wrote:
> > Dana, and all others,
> >
> >
> >
> > I am now on my second GPS, a Garmin 296.
> >
> >
> >
> > First, just about everything you need to know is right in your hand.
> > Airspeed, altitude, and a visual of exactly where you are above the
>ground.
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike in SW Somewhere 18.3 miles North
> > of the Arizona border, 14.76 miles east of the Nevada border
> >
> >
>
>
>--------
>George Alexander
>http://gtalexander.home.att.net
>
>
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>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=109639#109639
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>
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From: | "Steven Green" <Kolbdriver(at)bellsouth.net> |
Subject: | Re: Handheld radio, and VOR vs GPS |
Dana,
I have a Yaesu handheld with VOR reciever and it isn't very precise. It
swings around a lot unless you are very close to the station. An external
antenna might help, I am using the radio mounted antenna.
Steven Green
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From: "Dana Hague" <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net>
>
> I ask because now that I have a Kolb I want to buy a handheld radio,
> probably the Icom A6, and I'm wondering if there's any reason spend the
> extra money for the VOR functions in the A24.
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Subject: | John, Dick and Moody. Bearly at SnF |
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From: | "Ralph B" <ul15rhb(at)juno.com> |
Here are a few pics of today's flight.
Ralph
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Original Firestar
20 years flying it
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Subject: | Firestar II - 2nd seat - anyone ever use it? |
From: | "John H Murphy" <jhm9812(at)yahoo.com> |
Does anyone with a Firestar II ever use the rear jump seat? If so, do you limit
the passenger to a small child?
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From: | thewanderingwench(at)yahoo.com |
Subject: | Yahoo! Auto Response |
I'm on an ultralight flight to Texas and will be gone until Memorial Day. Since
I'll be camping along the way, I won't have access to a computer. So don't
expect to get a response until the end of May - unless I can find an Internet
Cafe along the route!
Arty
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From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
Subject: | Re: GPS and new technologies |
At 01:17 AM 4/28/2007, Larry Cottrell wrote:
> I guess if you are going to be doing a lot of xcountries to different
> airports it might be handy for a last ditch back up....
Lots of XC's in an Ultrastar? :o
-Dana
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From: | "Larry Bourne" <biglar(at)gogittum.com> |
Subject: | Re: Firestar II - 2nd seat - anyone ever use it? |
Comfort ?? Marginal ?? What comfort ?? My chest was the support for
Larry's seat back, and he's a husky guy. I was able to move my head, and to
a limited extent, my arms. When I got a cramp in my hip, I almost went
nuts, 'cause I couldn't move. The back seat of the Arizona Bald Eagle's
Firestar was almost as bad........but I thoroughly enjoyed both flights, and
the discomfort was well worth it. I'll even do it again......:-) BTW, for
the weight question, I weigh nearly 200 lbs. Lar.
On 4/27/07, John H Murphy wrote:
>
>
> Does anyone with a Firestar II ever use the rear jump seat? If so, do you
> limit the passenger to a small child?
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=109665#109665
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From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
Subject: | Re: GPS and new technologies |
Morning Gang:
James Tripp, FSII, and I, mkIII, flew 400 miles yesterday. We made it
to Tuscaloosa, AL, and back with our trusty GPS's. Ground speed was
from 45 mph flying NW to 105 flying SE. Airspeed was 65 mph.
We flew over to the University of Alabama to show our airplanes to the
AF ROTC students. Was a beautiful flight.
I landed at Centerville, AL, to make a phone call. When I taxiied up
to the hanger row, I saw a FSII. A few minutes later the owner drove
up. He was surprised we were flying in "all that wind". ??? Said he
never flew after 0900 because of winds. I told him to get more time
in his bird and he would be more comfortable with the wind. Said he
had 60 hours, but did not like getting knocked around.
Don't reckon we would ever get anywhere if we did not fly in the wind.
I've been flying with GPS since 1993, when I bought my first, a Garmin
55AVD. I did the 1994 Alaska flight with it. Did the 2001 flight to
Barrow, AK, with a 95XL, and the 48 day flight to Alaska in 2004 was
completed with the aid of my Garmin 196. The 196 now has "obstruction
clearance" which is a plus for me. That is where I fly the most.
I also use the 196 for land travel, and when I get a new boat will use
it for marine as well.
Take care,
john h
mkIII
912ULS 17.0 hours
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Subject: | Re: Drinks at MV |
From: | "Dave Rains" <RangeFlyer72(at)yahoo.com> |
Guys, make sure you bring your own poison. There are no alcohol sales on the reservation.
Skeeter requires after flying refreshment, and will be bringing his.
Also, my plane will be available for needed runs to Page.
Skeeter.
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From: | "Robert Laird" <rlaird(at)cavediver.com> |
Subject: | MkIIIC cg range? |
What is the "manufacturers cg range" for a Kolb MkIIIC? (And I hope this
isn't one of those, "...but YOU'RE the manufacturer..." kind of deals,
because I didn't build it.)
If there isn't one, would those of you with MkIIIC's please tell me you CG
range that you use? Thanks!
-- Robert
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From: | "Terry Davis" <davistcs(at)eoni.com> |
Subject: | Rope Starter Housing |
I was talking to a friend at the airport this morning after flying my
Firestar. He flies a gyro (yes, I feel the same way!!!) with a 582 with
200 hr. I happened to look at the rope starter housing due to the
recent thread on that. It just sits there in the open at eye level.
The "axle" of the housing had broken completely loose in a nice clean
circle around the weld. It turned and moved in and out as the rope was
pulled. He said he had heard some squealing sounds that he couldn't
identify lately. He's kind of a joker, but that did sober him up a bit.
Keep your eyes open on those preflights.
Terry Davis
FS 1, 503DCDI, Powerfin 3 blade.
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From: | by0ung(at)brigham.net |
Subject: | Re: MkIIIC cg range? |
-----Original message-----
From: "Robert Laird" rlaird(at)cavediver.com
Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 14:15:12 -0600
Subject: Kolb-List: MkIIIC cg range?
> What is the "manufacturers cg range" for a Kolb MkIIIC? (And I hope
this
> isn't one of those, "...but YOU'RE the manufacturer..." kind of
deals,
> because I didn't build it.)
>
> If there isn't one, would those of you with MkIIIC's please tell me
you CG
> range that you use? Thanks!
>
> -- Robert
>
>
16 1/2 inches to 23.1 inchesfrom the leading edge or 25% to 35%
of wing cord
boyd
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From: | "Mike Welch" <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com> |
Subject: | MkIIIC cg range? |
Robert,
Although I don't have the specific number for you, 20-30% is too broad.
(In other words---no help). No offence to Mike, but he was just throwing
out the basic CG range for ALL airfoils. Hang in there for the exact
number you're looking for! Ask again, if you need to.
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From: | "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
Subject: | Re: MkIIIC cg range? |
Went and looked at my plans, printed circa 1990.
Greater than 20% and less than 37%.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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Subject: | Re: GPS and new technologies |
From: | "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com> |
A VOR is a waste of space and money. A GPS will do 10 times what a VOR will do
and do it better, more reliably, and cheaper.
If you must have a back up your GPS, you would be better off to back it up with
a second GPS.
Mike
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"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
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Subject: | Re: Ms Dixie update |
From: | "cspoke" <cspoke(at)gulftel.com> |
Paul,
Sure looks good,,,Seeing all your pictures makes me even more motivated to finish
my Xtra. I hope that mine ends up loking as nice as your Kolbra.
--------
Craig Spoke
Mark 111 Xtra (in the works)
Lillian, AL
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Subject: | FireFly single struts |
Herb,
I went to the hangar yestarday, and measured those struts.
They are :
Major= 2 5/8 x minor 1 1/8 rough measure.
After looking at the Wicks cat...I think they are part number SL 26 11-4
.049 wall
As I remember, 1 inch square tubing fit inside nicely.
Don
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FireFly#098
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
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From: | "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell(at)fmtcblue.com> |
Subject: | Re: Drinks at MV |
Arty made it to Grants Pass yesterday at about 4 PM and is due to
depart for my strip in the next few minutes. The winds are a bit cranky
and there is fog on their way. Once they get over the Cascades the winds
are headed this way, but will be a bit brisk. If every thing goes well,
we will head out of here tomorrow morning and eventually see all of you
at MV.
Larry,Oregon
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From: | "Robert Laird" <rlaird(at)cavediver.com> |
Subject: | Re: Drinks at MV |
On 4/29/07, Larry Bourne wrote:
>
> Amazing ! ! ! Must be a Brit thing. D'you guys ever hear of such a thing
> ?? I'm sure I've heard of a similar ritual in Australia, and maybe Canada,
> too.
>
Down here in Texas, it's a lot simpler than what the Brits do... we have one
step: "Lip lock on a longneck." ;-)
-- Robert
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From: | "Larry Bourne" <biglar(at)gogittum.com> |
Subject: | Re: Drinks at MV |
What an adventure. I'm sure envious, Larry. Good Luck ! ! !
Long Neck. Long Neck ?? Ain't that one a them ladies in Bali or Cambodia
or somesuch that wear them stacks of rings around their necks ??.....or we
talkin' somethin' different here ?? Lar. Do
not Archive.
On 4/29/07, Robert Laird wrote:
>
>
> On 4/29/07, Larry Bourne wrote:
> >
> > Amazing ! ! ! Must be a Brit thing. D'you guys ever hear of such a
> > thing ?? I'm sure I've heard of a similar ritual in Australia, and maybe
> > Canada, too.
> >
>
>
> Down here in Texas, it's a lot simpler than what the Brits do... we have
> one step: "Lip lock on a longneck." ;-)
>
>
> -- Robert
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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From: | "Mike Welch" <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com> |
Hi All,
On my previous oration about the vitues of VOR's and GPS's, I mentioned I
had a GPS failure that "skeered" me a little.
To clarify things, it wasn't an electrical problem or anything like that,
that caused the outage.
It was tubulence!! A GPS's antenna cannot "hone" in on the required
satelites if it is being shaken all over the place.
While I was flying over the N California/Oregon moutains I came across
some significant turbulence, but coverage was restored when the air settled
down. I was on a long x/country flight and was at 8500' msl. I just kept
pointing at a snow capped peak, that was off in the distance (150 miles
away), that I was pointing at before I lost coverage. After a few minutes,
things went back to normal.
Mike Welch
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From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| It was tubulence!! A GPS's antenna cannot "hone" in on the required
| satelites if it is being shaken all over the place.
| Mike Welch
Mike:
I've experienced a little turbulence over the years, flying with the
GPS, but never lost coverage because of turbulence. I believe as long
as the antenna can see the satellites, it will receive, no matter how
quickly the antenna is changing location.
However, there are certain areas in CONUS and Canada that are blanked
out to GPS, and the GPS will come up with "Coverage Lost". I would
never have figured this out had it not happened a few years ago when
my Kolb friends and I were flying to the Outter Banks, NC. An area SW
of Trenton, SC, is where I lost coverage. Took 30 minutes or an hour
to get it back. I had experienced similar loss of coverage in Canada,
so I figured it was my unit or antenna that was causing this loss.
When we made our next landing, John W indicated he had also lost
coverage in the same area. Chances of two GPS units losing coverage
in the same area at the same time, then recovering about the same time
are pretty slim.
BTW: Where was your GPS antenna mounted in/on the aircraft?
john h
mkIII
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From: | "Rick Pearce" <rap(at)isp.com> |
Well I did it this morning committed aviation. Flew 55 min. Did real
good flew hands off at 5500rpm 65 mile per hour. Have to repitch the
prop (Power Fin). Had to back off full trottle on take off because the
EIS gave me a warning. Had to use some right aileron on the high speed
taxi's to keep that wing down. But as soon as I got in the air it
disapeared. Had a little cross wind to contend with. But it was from the
left. I'm now smoking my celbration stogy and drinking a cold one.:)
Hobbs is not working. Will defiantly have to get some sound
attenating head sets. Any one used one off the kits to convert a std.
head set to sound attenating? Could not hear the ground crew at higher
RPM's. Rick Pearce MK3C 912ULS
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From: | "Mike Welch" <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com> |
John,
My favorite toy in the whole world, my Garmin 95XL was attached to my
yoke with the bracket, and the antenna was suction cupped at the center top
of the windshield.
If it wasn't turbulence that caused my outage, then that would be even
worse. It is the boonies where you would want the best protection, not
flying over fairly populated areas you can identify by looking them.
Makes my point even more. VOR's are still a good resourse for your
piloting skills. Mike Welch
>From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
>Reply-To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
>To:
>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: GPS failure
>Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 10:36:53 -0500
>
>
>| It was tubulence!! A GPS's antenna cannot "hone" in on the required
>| satelites if it is being shaken all over the place.
>
>
> | Mike Welch
>
>Mike:
>
>I've experienced a little turbulence over the years, flying with the
>GPS, but never lost coverage because of turbulence. I believe as long
>as the antenna can see the satellites, it will receive, no matter how
>quickly the antenna is changing location.
>
>However, there are certain areas in CONUS and Canada that are blanked
>out to GPS, and the GPS will come up with "Coverage Lost". I would
>never have figured this out had it not happened a few years ago when
>my Kolb friends and I were flying to the Outter Banks, NC. An area SW
>of Trenton, SC, is where I lost coverage. Took 30 minutes or an hour
>to get it back. I had experienced similar loss of coverage in Canada,
>so I figured it was my unit or antenna that was causing this loss.
>When we made our next landing, John W indicated he had also lost
>coverage in the same area. Chances of two GPS units losing coverage
>in the same area at the same time, then recovering about the same time
>are pretty slim.
>
>BTW: Where was your GPS antenna mounted in/on the aircraft?
>
>john h
>mkIII
>
>
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From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Makes my point even more. VOR's are still a good resourse for
your
| piloting skills. Mike Welch
Mike:
I would rather rely on mag compass and sectional as backup to the GPS.
Doesn't matter whether you are over the woods or not. Out in the
boodocks there are usually rather prominent terrain features that are
easily identifiable, especially Northern California.
john h
mkIII
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From: | "Mike Welch" <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com> |
John and others,
I greatly agree with you regarding a sectional and compass (and watch).
These items should be the first tools of navigation a good pilot should
reach for.
I guess the main point is; there are several methods of navigating today
and a good pilot would never want to rely on only one.
The early days of mail service had the airmail pilot using only a
compass, watch and chart. They were able to navigate beyond our
imigination, in conditions that would seem impossible. And they did all
this long before the days of radar, VOR's, GPS's and a cell phone in every
pocket! They guys are the early heros of our hobby, and oh, how I would
love to sit and listen to some of their "war stories"
We are pilots, guys. We come from good stock!! Mike
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From: | "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart(at)onlyinternet.net> |
Kolbers,
When China blew up one of their satellites during target practice, it put
out a lot of high speed space junk. What if it knocks out a couple of gps
satellites? How many gps satellites have to be destroyed to bring down the
system?
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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From: | "boyd" <by0ung(at)brigham.net> |
I have been visiting with Robert Laird off list and gave him the information
off my set of plans.
Twinstar Mark III / copy right jan 1990 / Rev, 3-96
My plans say 16 1/2 to 23.1 inches from the leading edge of the wing.
Those numbers work out to 25 to 35 % of wing cord....
Note when weighing the plane to do the W&B the bottom of the wing ribs
should be pitched up at a 9 deg angle...
Went into much more detail off list and offered the W&B spread sheet to
him... and would again extend that offer to anyone wanting it,
Boyd Young
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From: | russ kinne <kinnepix(at)earthlink.net> |
Jack
I've been told there are 27 GPS satellites in orbit, 24 in use at any
one time . Possibly someone else has more definitive info here. Each
one has FOUR atomic clocks in it -- hence they cost so many billions
of $$. We have the military to thank. GA user-fees would be a long
time coming up with that much cash!
I doubt the Chinese shrapnel came anywhere near the GPS sat's.
Incidentally, I knew that GPS's won't "see" through heavy green
leaves -- but I found out to my dismay that they won't penetrate
heavy snow either.
Russ Kinne
On Apr 29, 2007, at 5:53 PM, Jack B. Hart wrote:
>
>
> Kolbers,
>
> When China blew up one of their satellites during target practice,
> it put
> out a lot of high speed space junk. What if it knocks out a couple
> of gps
> satellites? How many gps satellites have to be destroyed to bring
> down the
> system?
>
> Jack B. Hart FF004
> Winchester, IN
>
>
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From: | possums <possums(at)bellsouth.net> |
At 11:10 AM 4/29/2007, you wrote:
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> On my previous oration about the vitues of VOR's and GPS's, I
> mentioned I had a GPS failure that "skeered" me a little.
My class was the first allowed to use "a calculator" at Ga. Tech.
The old guys would tell us to keep our slide rules handy just in
case that new finagled contraption quite on us.
So ....glad I didn't have to use a slide rule.
I just keep an extra (cheap) GPS for backup
by the time I could figure the VOR I was already
in the next county anyway.
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From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| The early days of mail service had the airmail pilot using only a
| compass, watch and chart. They were able to navigate beyond our
| imigination, in conditions that would seem impossible.
Mike
Mike:
There are a couple Army helicopter pilots on the Kolb List that
learned to navigate in the air, as late as 1968, with compass, map,
and time. In fact, that was our primary means of nav in VN in 1969
and 70. From 1973 until my last flight in 1976, I flew for minimums
in UH-1, OH-58 types of helicopters.
I still flew pilotage and ded reckoning until the summer of 1993, when
I purchased my first GPS.
john h
mkIII
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From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
.
| Incidentally, I knew that GPS's won't "see" through heavy green
| leaves -- but I found out to my dismay that they won't penetrate
| heavy snow either.
| Russ Kinne
Russ:
Depends on the system. Some will and some won't. We had a cheap
Etrex localize inside the kitchen. Outside, my 196 will barely obtain
coverage because of the trees.
john h
mkIII
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From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
There are a couple Army helicopter pilots on the Kolb List that
learned to navigate in the air, as late as 1968, with compass, map,
and time. In fact, that was our primary means of nav in VN in 1969
and 70.
From 1973 until my last flight in 1976, I flew for minimums
in UH-1, OH-58 types of helicopters.
The previous sentence should have included:
" From 1973 until my last flight in 1976, I flew for minimums
in UH-1, OH-58 types of helicopters."
20,000 xin loi's,
john h
mkIII
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From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| From 1973 until my last flight in 1976, I flew for minimums
| in UH-1, OH-58 types of helicopters.
|
Hi Gang:
The third try is going to be a charm. Sentence, above, should have
included "pilotage and DED reckoning."
100,000 xin loi's,
john h
mkIII
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From: | possums <possums(at)bellsouth.net> |
At 07:39 PM 4/29/2007, you wrote:
>
> | From 1973 until my last flight in 1976, I flew for minimums
>| in UH-1, OH-58 types of helicopters.
>|Hi Gang:
>The third try is going to be a charm. Sentence, above, should have
>included "pilotage and DED reckoning."
>100,000 xin loi's,
>john h
Braggin rights.
I was tryin to keep my arse in college an otta nam.
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From: | Russ Kinne <russ(at)rkiphoto.com> |
John
Glad your Etrex worked OK in the kitchen -- but watch out for those
Alabama blizzards!
On Apr 29, 2007, at 7:04 PM, John Hauck wrote:
>
>
> .
> | Incidentally, I knew that GPS's won't "see" through heavy green
> | leaves -- but I found out to my dismay that they won't penetrate
> | heavy snow either.
> | Russ Kinne
>
>
> Russ:
>
> Depends on the system. Some will and some won't. We had a cheap
> Etrex localize inside the kitchen. Outside, my 196 will barely obtain
> coverage because of the trees.
>
> john h
> mkIII
>
>
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From: | Charlie England <ceengland(at)bellsouth.net> |
John Hauck wrote:
>
>
> .
> | Incidentally, I knew that GPS's won't "see" through heavy green
> | leaves -- but I found out to my dismay that they won't penetrate
> | heavy snow either.
> | Russ Kinne
>
>
> Russ:
>
> Depends on the system. Some will and some won't. We had a cheap
> Etrex localize inside the kitchen. Outside, my 196 will barely obtain
> coverage because of the trees.
>
> john h
> mkIII
And my neighbor's GRT EFIS will lock on inside his build-shop with a
shingle roof & only a couple of very small windows.
Charlie
(I was surprised, too.)
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From: | "Ed Chmielewski" <edchmiel(at)mindspring.com> |
John/Mike/All,
Pretty rare nowadays to see any kind of significant outage in any
part of the U.S. due purely to lack of coverage. Occasionally, there are
system-wide disruptions due to the satellites' being purposely 'skewed' for
reasons known only to the 'skewer' (U.S. Gov't). One example bandied about
is during high 'threat' levels, so the sats can't be used against us.
I haven't seen any interruptions in the last 3-4 years, heavily
using the system during that time.
Anyone following the (supposed) demise of LORAN will see why the VOR
system will be with us for many, many years. One major US airline up until
just a few years ago was still ordering its new Boeings with dual VOR's.
This despite everyone else having EFIS, FMS, GPS, INS, et al.
Have been using a Garmin 496 with XM weather lately. Highly
recommend it.
Ed in JXN
MkII/503
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: GPS failure
>
> Mike:
>
(Snip)
> However, there are certain areas in CONUS and Canada that are blanked
> out to GPS, and the GPS will come up with "Coverage Lost".
(Snip)
>
> john h
> mkIII
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From: | "Ed Chmielewski" <edchmiel(at)mindspring.com> |
Subject: | Re: GPS and new technologies |
Hi Lar,
You're correct about having enough altitude when using VORs.
I've always found '10 miles per one thousand feet' works in the
flatlands, and higher for mountainous areas. It's that line-of sight
thing.
Ed in JXN
MkII/503
----- Original Message -----
From: Larry Bourne
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: GPS and new technologies
I learned to use the VOR system when I learned to fly in '94, and used
it for real when navigating a Cessna 172 from Port Angeles, WA to
Weippe, ID, (70 miles E of Lewiston, ID) a trip of close to 500 miles.
I found that the VOR's only work well when you're at altitude, and then
only the closer ones were dependable. I mostly flew at 1,000 - 2,500 ft
AGL on that trip, and *sometimes* the VOR worked, but I quickly learned
to listen VEry closely to the Morse Code identifier for each station.
There's only a limited number of frequencies available to them, and you
need to be very sure exactly which station you're tracking. My
girlfriend was with me, and I showed her how to use the system to help
keep her interested. (central and eastern WA state is booooring) I
think I still have that old sectional somewhere. It's got pencil lines
going every which way that she drew while trying to figure it out. What
Fun ! ! ! Lar.
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From: | "pat ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
They were able to navigate beyond our| imigination, in conditions that would
seem impossible. >>
Hi,
Early fliers were all taught to navigate like that.
a local lady, the Honourable Mrs Victor Bruce, was an early flier. She had
a rich and indulgent husband and was into anything that went fast.
Racehorses, cars,motorbikes. She bought a DH Moth on a whim from a shop in
London which happened to have one in the window (can you believe it?) and
then bullied Tommy Sopwith in to teaching her to fly.
The first time she flew out of sight of the airfield she learned at she went
off on a tour of Europe. Shortly after that she flew round the world. All in
this litlle Moth.
I asked her how she corrected for drift and she told me that she had some
lines painted on the tail plane at various degrees and she just looked
behind her, lined up the marks with a tree or other prominent object and
then kicked the rudder in to compensate. She had many adventures, engine
failures etc., but as most of the world was pink on the map in those days
there always seemd to be an army garrison closeby wherever she went down.
There was one story of all the natives in the area being called in to stamp
the ground flat so that she could take off..
I believe that she was an ATA pilot during the war. In case you don`t know
the ATA, mostly women, flew replacement aircraft from the factories to the
squadrons during the war. Any weather,mainly non radio, unescorted and
unarmed. They flew all types from Spits and Hurri`s to Mosquitos and
Lancasters . A couple of weeks ago I flew into the field which was the ATA
HQ during the war. Apart from the graves of some girls who bought it in a
Mosquito there was also a pic of a girl who was checked out in every type
the RAF was flying at the time. Unsung heroines.
Cheers
Pat.
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From: | "pat ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
What if it knocks out a couple of gps
satellites? How many gps satellites have to be destroyed to bring down the
system? >>
Jack,
If the balloon goes up the sats will be the first to go. They are sitting
ducks and everyone knows exactly where they are. They cannot be defended and
you could put one out of action with half a brick or a sharp stick.
Imagine that plus the EMP from an atomic explosion. World comms going out.
Radio, phones,e-mails, navigation systems. It would be like going back to a
horse drawn era.
Keep a slipstick and a pencil handy.
cheers
Pat
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Good report on your trip, send us more when you can Arty.
Jim Swan firestar ll michigan
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From: | <kfackler(at)ameritech.net> |
Dear Ed et al:
I have experienced two GPS outtages in the last couple of years, both in the
same area near Peck MI. At a recent EAA chapter meeting, a spokesman from
FSS advised us to 'always' ask the briefer for any RAIM alerts, which are
areas and times when outtages are occurring or expected.
-Ken Fackler
Kolb Mark II / N722KM
Rochester MI
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed Chmielewski" <edchmiel(at)mindspring.com>
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 3:50 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: GPS failure
>
> John/Mike/All,
>
> Pretty rare nowadays to see any kind of significant outage in any
> part of the U.S. due purely to lack of coverage.
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From: | russ kinne <kinnepix(at)earthlink.net> |
IME roofs don't cause problems; wood, tarpaper, sheet metal
(sometimes), even fibreglass on boats. I think the water content is
the problem -- e.g, leaves, snow.
Russ K
On Apr 29, 2007, at 11:07 PM, Charlie England wrote:
>
>
> John Hauck wrote:
>> .
>> | Incidentally, I knew that GPS's won't "see" through heavy green
>> | leaves -- but I found out to my dismay that they won't penetrate
>> | heavy snow either.
>> | Russ Kinne
>> Russ:
>> Depends on the system. Some will and some won't. We had a cheap
>> Etrex localize inside the kitchen. Outside, my 196 will barely
>> obtain coverage because of the trees.
>> john h
>> mkIII
> And my neighbor's GRT EFIS will lock on inside his build-shop with
> a shingle roof & only a couple of very small windows.
>
> Charlie
> (I was surprised, too.)
>
>
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Subject: | Re: 912 Throttle Cable Failure |
From: | "Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL" <Dennis.Kirby(at)kirtland.af.mil> |
John H. suggests: << Spend a buck and get a new cable. Why take a
chance on another failure. Your home soldered cable is not the first
failure I have heard about. john h >>
Thanks for the tip, John - I did exactly that.
I bought a replacement cable from the local bicycle shop ($5) with a
factory-pressed cable end. I had to file it down a bit so it would fit
in the little slot in the splitter slider. Have already test flown with
the new cable - all seems OK.
If I ever need to do this again, I will do it as Richard Pike suggests:
Fray the cable end that sticks out from the ferrule, then solder in a
big glop of solder into the frayed strands. THAT should keep it from
pulling out again!
Dennis Kirby
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From: | "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM(at)comcast.net> |
Just got back to Michigan and installed some nose art on my MKIIIC.
Follow Kolb member Vic Peters made it for me. Note! the VW logo on her
tush. I told my wife it reminded me of her. Yes I'm still married but
she isn't happy. Wives..... go figure.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
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From: | "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM(at)comcast.net> |
Subject: | Re: First flight |
Rick
Congratulations. It a real special thing to fly a plane you built. Wow
doesn't seem like it was that long ago that you had just started that
build.
I installed the active noise reduction kit from Headsets
http://www.headsetsinc.com/ in my Sigtronics head sets five years ago.
They helped a bunch. I would think they have improved them since then
just like every one else.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick Pearce
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 12:36 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: First flight
Well I did it this morning committed aviation. Flew 55 min. Did
real good flew hands off at 5500rpm 65 mile per hour. Have to repitch
the prop (Power Fin). Had to back off full trottle on take off because
the EIS gave me a warning. Had to use some right aileron on the high
speed taxi's to keep that wing down. But as soon as I got in the air it
disapeared. Had a little cross wind to contend with. But it was from the
left. I'm now smoking my celbration stogy and drinking a cold one.:)
Hobbs is not working. Will defiantly have to get some sound
attenating head sets. Any one used one off the kits to convert a std.
head set to sound attenating? Could not hear the ground crew at higher
RPM's. Rick Pearce MK3C 912ULS
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Subject: | Re: First flight |
From: | "Dave Rains" <RangeFlyer72(at)yahoo.com> |
Congratulations from a jelous Skeeter. Life won't be the same :D
Skeeter
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From: | chris davis <capedavis(at)yahoo.com> |
Rick , That is Awesome!!!!!!! you are a man I would like to know ! Chris Davis
----- Original Message ----
From: Richard & Martha Neilsen <NeilsenRM(at)comcast.net>
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 4:40:26 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Nose ART
Just got back to Michigan and installed some nose art on my MKIIIC. Follow Kolb
member Vic Peters made it for me. Note! the VW logo on her tush. I told my wife
it reminded me of her. Yes I'm still married but she isn't happy. Wives.....
go figure.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
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Subject: | Re: First flight |
From: | "Ralph B" <ul15rhb(at)juno.com> |
Congratulations Rick! The Kolbs last a long time. Ask me how I know this.
Ralph
--------
Ralph B
Original Firestar
20 years flying it
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Subject: | Re: We Leave for MV tomorrow - via Texas |
From: | "R. Hankins" <rphanks(at)grantspass.com> |
I'll add a few pictures to the narrative above and a quick update. Arty, Larry
and Karen headed south and made it safely to Tonepah, NV. They will continue
on tomorrow.
--------
Roger in Oregon
1992 KXP 503
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Subject: | Re: We Leave for MV tomorrow - via Texas |
From: | "R. Hankins" <rphanks(at)grantspass.com> |
Joe and I returned home today. In two days we covered 644miles in 11 hours flat.
On the return trip we had a strong headwind from Larry Cottrells place back
to Lakeview. Average ground speed for that 133.7 mile leg was 46mph! The rest
of the trip home was much better with only light headwinds and average ground
speeds of 62 on the next leg and 67mph on the home stretch. Ill attach a
few pics from the flight home.
This is the most I have ever asked my Firestar to do in two day and it did just
fine. I do think I will register it light sport and put in bigger fuel tanks
though. Big country calls for big gas tanks.
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Roger in Oregon
1992 KXP 503
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From: | "boyd" <by0ung(at)brigham.net> |
Been working off line with Robert Laird on his W&B and come up with a
small spread sheet that will calculate the exact arm for the pilot, fuel, or
any other item added to a plane.... no more guessing at the location of
the belly button or calculating the center of mass of the fuel tanks
etc...
The spread sheet is not been made to look real purdy,,,,, but it works.
I put in some example numbers to test functionally .... you can erase the
test numbers and save it or duplicate it in a format that is better thought
out.
Boyd
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From: | "Robert Laird" <rlaird(at)cavediver.com> |
Ok, now that I've got the w&b done, who's got a MkIIIC POH that I can borrow
(in Word format, if possible).
Thanks!
-- Robert
On 5/1/07, boyd wrote:
>
> Been working off line with Robert Laird on his W&B and come up with a
> small spread sheet that will calculate the exact arm for the pilot, fuel,
> or
> any other item added to a plane.... no more guessing at the location of
> the belly button or calculating the center of mass of the fuel tanks
> etc...
>
> The spread sheet is not been made to look real purdy,,,,, but it works.
>
> I put in some example numbers to test functionally .... you can erase the
> test numbers and save it or duplicate it in a format that is better
> thought
> out.
>
> Boyd
>
>
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From: | Michael Sharp <kolbdriver(at)mlsharp.com> |
Robert,
I asked for a POH several years ago and the consensus at that time was that no
one had one. Hopefully that has changed, If one showes up please post it to
the group...
Mike
Robert Laird wrote:
Ok, now that I've got the w&b done, who's got a MkIIIC POH that I can borrow
(in Word format, if possible).
Thanks!
-- Robert
On 5/1/07, boyd wrote: Been working off line with Robert
Laird on his W&B and come up with a
small spread sheet that will calculate the exact arm for the pilot, fuel, or
any other item added to a plane.... no more guessing at the location of
the belly button or calculating the center of mass of the fuel tanks
etc...
The spread sheet is not been made to look real purdy,,,,, but it works.
I put in some example numbers to test functionally .... you can erase the
test numbers and save it or duplicate it in a format that is better thought
out.
Boyd
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From: | "Robert Laird" <rlaird(at)cavediver.com> |
Ok, I will.
And if one doesn't show up, I'll take the POH I wrote a few years ago for an
Aventura II and re-write it for the Kolb, and post it. I'm at a bit of a
disadvantage, though, since I don't have -any- Kolb documentation, plans,
schematics, etc.
-- Robert
On 5/1/07, Michael Sharp wrote:
>
> Robert,
>
> I asked for a POH several years ago and the consensus at that time was
> that no one had one. Hopefully that has changed, If one showes up please
> post it to the group...
>
> Mike
>
> *Robert Laird * wrote:
>
> Ok, now that I've got the w&b done, who's got a MkIIIC POH that I can
> borrow (in Word format, if possible).
>
> Thanks!
>
> -- Robert
>
>
> On 5/1/07, boyd wrote:
> >
> > Been working off line with Robert Laird on his W&B and come up with a
> > small spread sheet
> >
> > *
> >
> >
> > *
> >
> >
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Subject: | Where are Larry and Arty? |
From: | "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot1(at)tx.rr.com> |
This is a test.
Please don't reply to this post.
I will update the map/photo as new locations are acquired. All you will have to
do is check the photo to get Larry and Arty's progress.
Please don't reply to this post or this Subject Line.
--------
John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolbra, 912ULS
http://home.tx.rr.com/kolbrapilot
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Subject: | Re: We Leave for MV tomorrow - via Texas |
From: | "R. Hankins" <rphanks(at)grantspass.com> |
Quick update:
Larry, Arty and Karen are in Pahrump, NV this evening. They had very strong headwinds.
Arty's radio was shaken out of its mounts it was so bumpy. They landed
in winds of 25 or better, luckily straight down the runway. There are T-storms
predicted in the LasVegas area tomorrow so they are planning on Needles.
--------
Roger in Oregon
1992 KXP 503
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From: | DAquaNut(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Re: Firefly Landing speed |
Group,
I have installed a winter ASI as suggested by John H. and it appears to be
accurate. It seems my Firefly settles on the runway at 40 indicated with no
flaps. Does that sound right? Also my 447 is running with Egt's at 950* and
cht's at 375*-400 * at 5700-5800 rpms. Does that sound good or do I need to
have higher egts in order to reduce carbon?
Ed Diebel FF# 62
**************************************
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From: | "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
Subject: | Re: Firefly Landing speed |
I would like my cht to be about 50 degrees lower, and my egt about 100 -
150 degrees higher. If you have an adjustable pitch prop, taking out a
bit of pitch ought to accomplish both.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
----- Original Message -----
From: DAquaNut(at)aol.com
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firefly Landing speed
Group,
I have installed a winter ASI as suggested by John H. and it appears
to be accurate. It seems my Firefly settles on the runway at 40
indicated with no flaps. Does that sound right? Also my 447 is running
with Egt's at 950* and cht's at 375*-400 * at 5700-5800 rpms. Does
that sound good or do I need to have higher egts in order to reduce
carbon?
Ed Diebel FF# 62
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Subject: | Firestar II - installation of electric start |
From: | "John H Murphy" <jhm9812(at)yahoo.com> |
Has anyone with a Firestar II installed an electric start on their aircraft? There
does not appear to be enough room for the electric start. I'm trying to keep
my Ballistic shute *BRS* model 750 & the starter. It also appears the engine
case needs to be modifed to allow all the parts to fit. There was no instructions
with my starter so I'm trying to figure it out as I go along.
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From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
Guys,
I'm almost finished [re]building the enclosed trailer for my
Ultrastar. It's a bit... ah... different (pix to follow). What I was
wondering is what to do about venting? Something to let heat and mosture
out, without letting rain in. If it would never be on the road some simple
louvered vents would be fine, but I'm concerned wind would blow water in
them if driving in the rain. Mainly I'm concerned about keeping it from
getting too hot inside, since I'll probably be storing the plane in the
trailer.
I was thinking maybe louvered vents (house gable vents) in the rear upper
doors to let air out. but something down low in the front to let air (but
not water) in is also necessary.
-Dana
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Subject: | Re: Trailer venting |
From: | "George Alexander" <gtalexander(at)att.net> |
Dana et al:
To deal with venting, used sofit vents (about 3" X 10") at the top, front and rear
on the sides. Used round vents (about 1 1/2") at the floor. These items
have fixed louvers and would block any wind blown rain unless it was being blown
at an up angle. All have window screen material to keep the critters out.
In the round ones at the bottom, if you want a little more assurance, cram a
piece of plastic scrub pad (like steel wool, but made of plastic) into the hole.
Don't use steel wool. Will rust away in a high moisture environment.
Although not taken to show the vents, there are a few pics from the "Trailering
a Kolb" section of my web site that show their placement.
http://gtalexander.home.att.net/target1.html
http://gtalexander.home.att.net/target2.html
http://gtalexander.home.att.net/target11.html
d-m-hague(at)comcast.net wrote:
> Guys,
>
> I'm almost finished [re]building the enclosed trailer for my
> Ultrastar.
>
>
>
> I was thinking maybe louvered vents (house gable vents) in the rear upper
> doors to let air out. but something down low in the front to let air (but
> not water) in is also necessary.
>
> -Dana
>
--------
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http://gtalexander.home.att.net
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From: | "Beauford T" <beauford(at)tampabay.rr.com> |
Subject: | Re: Firefly Landing speed |
Ed:
Since you are asking, mine is propped at 6500 level WOT... egt's show
1080 to 1100 at cruise... 1180 to 1200 at closed throttle glide.
Since mine was converted to the green-dot pistons over at the Lockwood
Castle, the head temps hang around 370 to 375 at cruise.... that's a
5900 cruise... Mine indicates about the same VSO airspeed as
yours...38, 39 or so... but with no static side hookup ...??? who
really knows? I weigh 208 and I think around 40 is where it actually
pays off (vortex generators and all) with my flabby fanny in the front
end... I climb it at 60, glide it at 60, cruise it at 65 indicated.
Based on your numbers, I agree with the others that you could likely
stand to take a little pitch out of your prop...
Worth what ye paid fer it...
Beauford
FF076
Brandon, FL
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From: DAquaNut(at)aol.com
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Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firefly Landing speed
Group,
I have installed a winter ASI as suggested by John H. and it appears
to be accurate. It seems my Firefly settles on the runway at 40
indicated with no flaps. Does that sound right? Also my 447 is running
with Egt's at 950* and cht's at 375*-400 * at 5700-5800 rpms. Does
that sound good or do I need to have higher egts in order to reduce
carbon?
Ed Diebel FF# 62
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From: | Blumax008(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Re: Firestar II - installation of electric start |
You could put an E drive on it which has the starter installed with (beside)
the gearbox.
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From: | TheWanderingWench <thewanderingwench(at)yahoo.com> |
Subject: | Update #2 2007 Ultralight Flight to MV via Texas |
Hi folks,
It's Wednesday morning, and we're sitting in the computer room of Pahrump, NV
library. Monday morning we left Larry Cottrell's airstrip in Rome, OR. It was
a gorgeous clear morning. Joe Kleeman and Roger Hankins, who had flown to the
Cottrells with me, took off first, heading back to their respective home airports.
Larry and I took off to the south, and had an absolutely gorgeous flight
over astounding desert. (I don't have a way to send photos while we're on
this trip, so will have to send a bunch when I get home.
We flew straight from the Cottrells to Battle Mountain, NV - a 2.5 hour flight.
Slight tailwinds and lovely flying. Larry and I cruise at just about the
same speed - between 55 and 60 mph, which makes for very easy flying together.
We refueled at Battle Mountain and then followed the highway south to Tonopah.
We cut a lot of corners, but the highway goes through a wide valley, so we
were never more than 5 miles from the highway. We had a little trouble finding
Austin, NV (one of our waypoints) and finally found it tucked up high in the
hills. We were usually flying at 6500-8000' and both of us found that our EGTs
were reading low - mine at 1025 and Larry's at less than 1000.
We landed at Tonopah, NV at 1:30 p.m. The last 40 minutes had been pretty rough
flying - lots of turbulence and getting bounced around. It was a relief to
set foot in the FBO and sink into a chair. Karen drove up about 20 minutes later.
She'd had a lot of trouble finding the airport - the highway markings were
the pits.
We were really pleased to have reached Tonopah the first day out - it's about
400 miles from our starting point. We could have gone on later in the afternoon
when the winds died down, but we were offered a large military wood WWII hangar
to camp in, and the offer was too good to refuse. Wait til you see the
pics of the Subaru, loaded down with camping gear, 8 5-gallon gas tanks, and 3
dogs! We set up our campsite inside the hangar - went to town for food, and
had a barbeque of steak and salad inside the hangar. It was great!
Tuesday morning was one of those glorious desert sunrises and we were off the
ground at 6:40 a.m. Our first waypoint was Goldfield - a closed runway which
the flight guide says has bushes and tumbleweeds growing up in the runway itself.
Since it was only 34 miles from Tonopah, we hadn't planned on stopping,
but Larry was getting concerned about his low EGTs, and wanted to land there so
he could reset his needle jets. The runway is fine for ultralights - (whoops
- I need to remember that I'm now officially flying an E-LSA!) - the bushes/brush
are growing to the sides and the center is fine. It's an uphill runway
that ends in the "town" - a ramshackle looking place. We landed without difficulty,
Larry changed out his needle jets, and we took off again.
Our flight continued much as before - flying at 6500-8000', slight headwinds
that sometimes became slight tailwinds. Very calm air - I was able to take lots
of pictures. We passed a huge airstrip at Beatty, NV - absolutely immense
from the air, yet out in the middle of nowhere. No hangars, no planes tied down.
We were still following Hwy. 95 south through Nevada, and all our waypoints
showed up as planned.
We were going to stop at Calvada Meadows in the Pahrump Valley (still Nevada)
and continue on, but as we flew over a low range of jaggedey mountains into the
Pahrump Valley, our luck turned and turbulence caught up with us. I was deep
into an "arm-flinging" flight - my euphamism for the worst type of turbulence.
Since I fly an open cockpit Drifter - nothing to grab onto when I start getting
bounced around - when it's REALLY bouncy I throw out my left arm - because
if I inadvertently grab onto the throttle for stability, I'm likely to break
it off! (It's got a really long arm.) I also image that the left arm flailing
in the wind does a little to stabilize the plane. :>) It was so bumpy that
my radio, which is fastened to the center console with velcro, bounced off
and dangled in the bottom of the plane. It was way too bumpy to try and retrieve
it, so I just hoped that Larry would be extra careful watching out for me
as we came into land.
We were going to land on 33, but the wind shifted and as I lined up for final
I saw the sock going in the opposite direction, so I went around and came in
on 15. Not the best landing I've ever done, but not the worst either. Trying
to turn around to back-taxi was impossible, so I had to turn it off, and pick
up the tail to get it around. Karen was waiting, and we muscled the planes to
a tie down spot and tied them down REALLY well.
Then we drove to a motorcycle dealership to try and get 152 main jets, to further
lean out our engines. A fellow who was at the store (which didn't have any)
told us about someone at the airpark who is "Mr. Ultralight". To make a long
story shorter, he wasn't home, we talked to him and then went to a motel.
Even though it was only11:00 a.m. and we'd only covered 150 miles, there was
no question that we were going to be able to continue on in this wind. (I had
called for a weather briefing and the winds were supposed to increase in the
afternoon.)
That evening, about 45 minutes before sunset, I was re-checking our next day's
route and realized that I didn't have a Las Vegas Terminal Area chart. So I
called back "Mr. Ultralight" and he said he'd been trying to find us - where
we had left our planes was a terrible spot - too isolated - and he wanted us to
bring them over to his hangar and tie them down. We had taken everything out
of the planes that had any value...but he said that if we left them there overnight,
the engines would be gone in the morning! Wow - we'd never thought of
that!!
So we jumped into the car, drove to the airport, and taxied to his hangar. Winds
were pretty high, and we were taxiing down-wind - an interesting endeavor
in a tail-dragger. We tied down just as it was getting full-dark, with a huge
golden moon rising over the mountains.
The weather report was discouraging at 5:00 a.m. today - winds aloft 210 @ 18
and going up to 23 along our route. Almost a direct headwind, and even with
my 16 gallons aboard, we'd have difficulty getting very far. We decided to stay
at the wonderful motel with pool, huge continental breakfast, and access to
the library internet. Hopefully tomorrow will be better.
I'll write again when I have a chance.
Arty
www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com
"Life's a daring adventure or nothing"
Helen Keller
"I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death."
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Subject: | Re: Firestar II - installation of electric start |
From: | "John H Murphy" <jhm9812(at)yahoo.com> |
I've had several folks tell me the GPL starter is the way to go. It has the starter
sitting sideways instead of straight back like my Rotax starter.
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From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
At 05:55 PM 5/2/2007, robert bean wrote:
>
>You leegal eegles out there; Looking at the TNK blurb about the
>puddle jumper floats..... What's the deal regarding ELSA ?
>I seem to remember that amphibious floats ran into a problem flying
>under light sport...
I believe the feds have amended the rule to allow "repositionable" landing
gear on amphibious LSA.
-Dana
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From: | "Dave Rains" <RangeFlyer72(at)yahoo.com> |
Sad news indeed! Was looking forward to seeing you again. Had a great flight
in the mighty Skylark last year, recall?
Skeeter
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From: | "Steven Green" <Kolbdriver(at)bellsouth.net> |
Here is a link to Wells Cargo, look at exterior options. I bought the
side mount flow through vents for my trailer. Mounted one high on the
front left side of the trailer and the other on the lower right rear.
Steven
http://www.wellscargo.com/wells/model.html?model=5
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From: | WillUribe(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Check out some boring video |
_Click here: Kolb FireStar II - Google Video_
(http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1480724639524498797)
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From: | Malcolmbru(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Re: michigan kolb pilots |
midland Barstow mb3 is having a pancake breakfast and I will buy
breakfast for any kolb pilot that fly's in. yes I will , just ask for Malcolm
when
you get there ,,malcolm
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From: | possums <possums(at)bellsouth.net> |
Subject: | Re: Check out some boring video |
At 09:36 PM 5/2/2007, you wrote:
><http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1480724639524498797>Click
>here: Kolb FireStar II - Google Video
>
>
How'd you get the vibration out ?
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From: | "Robert Laird" <rlaird(at)cavediver.com> |
Here's the link to the FAA docket for that subject:
http://dms.dot.gov/search/document.cfm?documentid=466165&docketid=27160
I think they are going to allow "retractable" gear, but you'll have to get
signed off for using it.
-- Robert
On 5/2/07, Dana Hague wrote:
>
>
> At 05:55 PM 5/2/2007, robert bean wrote:
> >
> >You leegal eegles out there; Looking at the TNK blurb about the
> >puddle jumper floats..... What's the deal regarding ELSA ?
> >I seem to remember that amphibious floats ran into a problem flying
> >under light sport...
>
> I believe the feds have amended the rule to allow "repositionable" landing
> gear on amphibious LSA.
>
> -Dana
>
> --
> --
> My software never has bugs. It just develops random features.
>
>
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From: | WillUribe(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Check out some boring video |
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of possums
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Check out some boring video
At 09:36 PM 5/2/2007, you wrote:
_Click here: Kolb FireStar II - Google Video_
(http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1480724639524498797)
How'd you get the vibration out ?
I did nothing, I guess it has more to do with the camcorder's image
stabilizer function.
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Robert, I believe you are right.
As I understand the current rule, repositioning gear in the air is not
allowed by a sport pilot. A Private Pilot is allowed to retract even in an LSA
AC
if he has his rating. However The document referenced is a proposal to amend
the Sport Pilot Rule not a ruling.
There is an exception to this in regard to the Mermaid and a few other LSA
Amphib AC. These AC applied for and received waivers. I believe the individual
Sport Pilot must still have an endorsement for that AC.
Steve B
Firefly on Floats
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From: | "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com> |
mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.co wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> To clarify things, it wasn't an electrical problem or anything like that,
> that caused the outage.
> It was tubulence!! A GPS's antenna cannot "hone" in on the required
> satelites if it is being shaken all over the place.
> Mike Welch
>
>
You could not be more wrong, GPS works just fine in turbulance. Not only will
GPS work fine in turbulance you would experience in an aircraft, but I have used
GPS in turbulance and vibration that would cause structural failure in full
sized aircraft.
If your GPS was cutting out in turblance, then you had a loose wire, bad power
connection, or something wrong in your system. You made a very bad assumption
with your situation... There is just no inherent problem with GPS and turbulance.
As I said before, if you are the type of person that must have a backup to your
GPS, get another GPS, its cheaper, works better, and is simpler and more reliable
than a VOR setup.
GPS non avialability because sattelites are not in position is so rare, its not
even wroth thinking aobut unless you are using it for a very tight IFR approach.
Even if you get less than optinum sattelites, its only for a couple minutes
before another comes into view, the worst you get is degraded accuracy ( maybe
100 feet accuracy instead of 10 feet ). In other words, its NOT AN ISSUE.
For those of you that are worried about the Chinese shooting down the sattelites,
then you might as well worry about the sky falling, and never leave the comfort
of your underground cave... Besides, if it ever gets to that, we all will
have much bigger problems about than your GPS not working. ( A war on that
scale would take out the VOR's, and probably your life also ).
Mike
--------
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have !!!
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From: | "pat ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
no BYOB breakfast!!!!!!>>
Hell Craig.
I am wondering if it worth while coming to MV now. I was really looking
forward to that breakfast.
Hard luck indeed,,
Pat
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Subject: | Re: Check out some boring video |
In a message dated 5/2/2007 10:21:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
possums(at)bellsouth.net writes:
_Click here: Kolb FireStar II - Google Video_
(http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1480724639524498797)
How'd you get the vibration out ?
Neeeeto!.............especially for a challenged pilot like myelf having
not flown in
my wonderful KX for 2 years since moving to Florida
question.... i noticed there was a crosswind from your left, yet you used a
right pattern..... also where was that....seemed a little like El PASO OR
New Mexico.
George Randolph
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From: | WillUribe(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Re: Check out some boring video |
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of GeoR38(at)aol.com
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 12:15 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Check out some boring video
question.... i noticed there was a crosswind from your left, yet you used a
right pattern..... also where was that....seemed a little like El PASO OR
New Mexico.
Video was taken in El Paso, TX and at this airport ultralights and gliders
use a north side traffic pattern. GA use a south side traffic pattern.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Petty
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 1:33 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Check out some boring video
Great stuff Will! Where is that airport and how long is that runway?
It is Horizon Airport T27 in El Paso, TX the runway is 6885' X 50'
do not archive
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From: | "David Key" <dhkey(at)msn.com> |
Subject: | BiAnnual Flight Review - POH |
I need to get a bi-annual flight review, do I need to have a POH for my
plane?
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From: | david(at)davidlehman.net |
Subject: | BiAnnual Flight Review - POH |
No...
-----Original Message-----
From: "David Key" <dhkey(at)msn.com>
Sent: 5/3/2007 7:08 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: BiAnnual Flight Review - POH
I need to get a bi-annual flight review, do I need to have a POH for my
plane?
..
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From: | possums <possums(at)bellsouth.net> |
Subject: | Re: Check out some boring video |
At 09:52 PM 5/3/2007, you wrote:
>Years ago, shot video all fall from my Hummer, used a camera carrier
>that suspended the camera from bungee cords.
I did that too, Big camera, bungee cords, springy steel plate
rivet mounted on the side of my 1983 CGS Hawk. BTW that was
the top of the line 1983 utralight, ailerons, flaps, etc.
Heck ....back then a double surface wing was a big thing.
But still, the vibrations made the video unwatchable for most
anybody but me. The new stabilizer chips take out the big jerky moves,
but don't seem to do much for the little engine vibrations. I have remotes
to turn my cameras on an off, so I don't need to have them wasting memory
or film even when they are out on the wings or on the tail.
If anybody could really solve the vibration problem, we all could do
amazing videos ...I mean the 5 minutes you get in the average 3 hour flight.
Here is what my old HI-8 set up off looks like, the new digital is much smaller
and much cleaner. I got a little box to convert the VHS/Hi-8 stuff to digital
so I can load it on Goggle. I ought to send "Larry out west"?" my old system
and let him shoot some stuff to entertain us. I'll ever convert it
and load it on
Goggle for him.
Hi-8/VHS converted - "Old"
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9177096133625180462&hl=en
Digital "mostly"
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8558932262133094065&hl=en
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Subject: | Re: Where are Larry and Arty |
From: | "R. Hankins" <rphanks(at)grantspass.com> |
Larry called this evening from Casa Grande, AZ. They flew approx. 8 hours today.
Whew!
--------
Roger in Oregon
1992 KXP 503
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From: | "Larry Bourne" <biglar(at)gogittum.com> |
Subject: | Re: Where are Larry and Arty |
Let them know that if they swing up thru Santa Fe, I'll buy them a real nice
dinner. Get them an employees rate at a luxury resort and spa, too, with
pickup and delivery service to the airport. Lar.
On 5/3/07, R. Hankins wrote:
>
>
> Larry called this evening from Casa Grande, AZ. They flew approx. 8 hours
> today. Whew!
>
> --------
> Roger in Oregon
> 1992 KXP 503
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=110722#110722
>
>
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From: | Thom Riddle <thomriddle(at)adelphia.net> |
Subject: | Re: Check out some boring videoCheck out some boring video |
The airframe mounted videos I've done have been vibration free as well.
The image stabilization in the camera is a big help but I also mounted
mine using a 1" thick piece of foam rubber as a cushion all around,
with it "preloaded" by compressing it about 1/2" to absorb shocks in
all directions. Seems to work.
Thom in Buffalo
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Subject: | Re: Check out some boring video |
From: | "olendorf" <olendorf(at)gmail.com> |
I have used this software to remove the shake from videos. You need to get the
videos to your pc first. Then run in through VirtualDub with the Deshaker plug
in. It is a little tricky but it can save videos that are just too shaky to
watch. I almost deleted 2 videos I had made of my kids first wakeboarding attemps
because they are so bad. But after deshaking them they were good enough
to keep, pretty good actually.
Here is the plug-in;
http://www.guthspot.se/video/deshaker.htm
How to use Deshaker guide:
http://www.sundancemediagroup.com/articles/deshaker_guide.htm
--------
Scott Olendorf
Original Firestar, Rotax 447, Powerfin prop
Schenectady, NY
http://KolbFirestar.googlepages.com
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From: | TheWanderingWench <thewanderingwench(at)yahoo.com> |
Subject: | #3 Update 2007 Ultralight Flight to MV via Texas |
Hi all,
It's Friday morning, and we just called for a weather briefing. Just a few minutes
ago I optimistically sent Dave Rains (El Paso) an e-mail saying we might
make it tonight. I should have talked to WX-BRIEF first! Winds aloft not a
problem - tailwinds of 15-30 all the way to El Paso. We just wouldn't have been
able to land anywhere! All across New Mexico and into El Paso there are surface
winds of 15/20 gusting to 30, 40 and even 50!!! There's a slow cold front
moving east and that's likely to remain for a couple of days. Happily, we've
staying with some Kolber friends of mine here in Casa Grande, AZ (south of
Phoenix).
Let me recap yesterday's flight.
When we got to our planes yesterday morning and were doing a radio check, we
found that my radio had been damaged in the turbulence on Tuesday. I could hear,
but couldn't transmit. (For anyone who knows me, you'll be laughing. My
preference is talking over listening!) So all day our method of communication
was to fly in close visual contact. If Larry wanted to tell me or ask me anything,
he would ask a questionthat could be answered with "yes" or "no" and I'd
waggle my wings for a "yes" response and keep them level for a "no" response,
Happily, we had calm air all day, so I could keep them level as necessary.
We took off and promptly lost sight of each other - circled for 20 minutes before
making visual contact. From then on, we were "wing-to-wing" buddies. :>)
The first leg was 2.5 hours to Needles, CA. Calm air and flying over beautiful,
yet desolate country. Wide valleys of sagebrush, rocks, and dirt roads between
jagged mountains (5800-7500') of dark rock. Beautiful to fly over, but
I didn't envy Karen who was driving it.
After refueling in Needles we flew on over more of the same for a 1.5 hr. leg
to Blythe, CA. Blythe is a beautiful valley which is green, green, green - thanks
to the Colorado River, which has been channeled into canals for agriculture
irrigation. A brief refueling stop and then on for another 2 hours to Buckeye.
Again, calm air and beautifully desolate scenery. From Buckeye we flew
for an hour to Casa Grande, our destination for the day. As we came near Casa
Grande, we saw "forests" of saguero cactus. We were following a dry river bed
at about 1000'AGL, and Larry with a shout of glee (yes, he keyed the radio so
I heard it) dove down and followed the windy riverbed. I hope my pics of him
turn out.
We landed at Casa Grande about 7:15 p.m. - we had left Calvada Meadows at 8:00
a.m.! Ed Dobson, who has owned two Kolb Firestars, was there to meet us. I
had called Dobsie from Blythe to let him know we were on our way - he thought
I had said Buckeye and had gone to the airport to wait! A long, long wait.
So we'll be bunking with Dobsie while we wait out this cold front. We'll be
keeping you updated -
Arty
www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com
"Life's a daring adventure or nothing"
Helen Keller
"I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death."
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Subject: | Re: Check out some boring video |
From: | "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com> |
The video was great, keep on filming, nothing boring about watching a Kolb fly
!
Mike
--------
"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
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Subject: | Re: #3 Update 2007 Ultralight Flight to MV via Texas |
From: | "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1(at)yahoo.com> |
Hi Arty,
Roger Lee in Tucson, just south of you.
Winds are supposed to be bad here Friday and Saturday. Some wind Sunday up to 12-13mph,
but in the afternoon. If you want call me and I'll fly up to Casa Grande
Sunday morning or if you are leaving tell me a time and route and I'll fly
up and along with you for bit.
Tell me what frequncy you will be on and I can get a location in the air.
Roger Lee
Tucson, Az
520-574-1080 home number for Saturday
520-791-5286 work number for Friday
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Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
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From: | "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com> |
mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.co wrote:
>
>
> It was tubulence!! A GPS's antenna cannot "hone" in on the required
> satelites if it is being shaken all over the place.
>
> Mike Welch
>
>
Mike,
You very clearly and falsely said that a GPS antenna cannot work in turbulance.
You at no time in your post said that it was due to your "old" or "substandard"
installation.
I think you probably understand 5th grade english. Be a man and admit that you
posted bad and false information instead of pouting like a baby about how I
called you on it.
Mike
--------
"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
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Subject: | Re: Where are Larry and Arty? |
From: | "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot1(at)tx.rr.com> |
The test continues.
I have to make a new post so it will come up on the forum as something new.
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Subject: | Re: BiAnnual Flight Review - POH |
From: | "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot1(at)tx.rr.com> |
It's real easy to give a simple "No".
What is your reference for that answer?
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John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolbra, 912ULS
http://home.tx.rr.com/kolbrapilot
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From: | DAquaNut(at)aol.com |
In a message dated 5/4/2007 7:08:10 AM Central Standard Time,
thomriddle(at)adelphia.net writes:
> More importantly, I liked your greeting to Jet Pilot, "I could not agree
> with you less". It is very apropos considering Jet Pilot's typical greeting
> "You could not be more wrong". Politeness has not gone out of style, has it?
> Being rude while making a point does not help your case.
>
> Thom in Buffalo
Thanks Thom, I couldn't have said it more right my self !
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Subject: | Re: Where are Larry and Arty |
From: | "R. Hankins" <rphanks(at)grantspass.com> |
Karen, Larry and Arty are traveling from Casa Grande to Texas by Subaru. They
decided that time would be better spent visiting with friends and family, than
sitting in a hotel room waiting out the weather. They will return to their planes
in time to lauch for MV.
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Roger in Oregon
1992 KXP 503
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Subject: | Re: BiAnnual Flight Review - POH |
From: | "Thom Riddle" <thomriddle(at)adelphia.net> |
dhkey,
Since a CFI must fly with the pilot taking the BFR he has the right (not obligation)
to inspect the required aircraft paperwork. The old ARrOW acronym is an
easy way to remember what paperwork is required to be legal.
A - Airworthiness certificate
R- Registration
r - Radio station license (no longer required)
O - Operator's manual (POH) for type certificated aircraft
-----or----- Operating limitations for experimental and LSAs
W - Weight and balance data
John W - You tend to be the best informed on regulations, please correct me if
I am wrong on this.
Thom in Buffalo
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From: | "David Key" <dhkey(at)msn.com> |
Subject: | Re: BiAnnual Flight Review - POH |
Yea, it's the "O" I was having problems with. I think I'll just do it in a
172 or a 182 and keep it simple for everyone. I still need to address the
"O".
>From: "Thom Riddle" <thomriddle(at)adelphia.net>
>Reply-To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
>To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
>Subject: Kolb-List: Re: BiAnnual Flight Review - POH
>Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 04:10:39 -0700
>
>
>dhkey,
>
>Since a CFI must fly with the pilot taking the BFR he has the right (not
>obligation) to inspect the required aircraft paperwork. The old ARrOW
>acronym is an easy way to remember what paperwork is required to be legal.
>
>A - Airworthiness certificate
>R- Registration
>r - Radio station license (no longer required)
>O - Operator's manual (POH) for type certificated aircraft
>-----or----- Operating limitations for experimental and LSAs
>W - Weight and balance data
>
>John W - You tend to be the best informed on regulations, please correct me
>if I am wrong on this.
>
>Thom in Buffalo
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=110954#110954
>
>
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Subject: | Re: #3 Update 2007 Ultralight Flight to MV via Texas |
From: | "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell(at)fmtcblue.com> |
Hi all,
I am sure that Arty will up date you more on our trip, but I thought
that I would comment at least. The weather here in the west has been a
bit unsettled to say the least. Flying hasn't been a problem, landing
has been pretty interesting some times however. ;-) When we did the
weather breifing for our intended flight to El Paso, it quickly became
apparent that we should actually wait for a couple of days for the
weather to stabilize. The primary problem was the reduced ground speed,
as well as the amount of fuel used, and the possible problems of
getting out of San Antonio to make MV. Arty's primary goal was the
flight to Texas, mine was to visit a brother that had moved to the San
Antonio area. I asked her to give up the Texas portion of the flight so
that I could spend some time with my brother. She graciously agreed if
we could fly on to Las Cruces and then on to MV. If we had waited for
the weather to clear, my visit would have been a couple of days at the
best. So we tied our birds down at Casa Grande, and departed for San
Antonio at about 1230 driving straight through to arrive at my
brother's house at 0625 this morning. 17 hours and somewhere around 900
miles.
The planes have been just fantastic, No problems at all, other that
Arty's radio cord problems. (solved)For some reason my EIS values
changed on my fuel tanks. This caused me to run out of gas on the first
leg of our trip. It was a bit tense until I could decide that it had to
be a fuel problem as all my egt's and cht's were within range. The
restart was no problem, just need to return the throttle to idle and
pull the enrichner circuit. I was quite relieved to confirm that there
was nothing wrong with the motor. I had a good place to land, but who
needs to do that more than necessary.
My EIS has been a bit weird of late. I get a warning light and the
screen that shows up is the one for the screen contrast. Doesn't make
sense at all. All the other values are within range. I haven't been able
to contact the gal at EIS to see what she can tell me.
I did want to spend some time flying the dry river beds in Arizona, I
found afterward (Arty's radio out) that she was coming down to join me.
I was feeling guilty about screwing off like that and found that she was
disappointed that I pulled out of it.
Larry, Oregon
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From: | Jon LaVasseur <firestar503(at)yahoo.com> |
Hi Kolbers,
Looks like my plan to be a MV is working. I will
be trailering my Firestar from Minnesota.
Never met you guys or been to the valley, looking
forward to both.
If someone is still keeping a list of names
please add mine to the list.
Jon LaVasseur
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From: | Terry <tkrolfe(at)usadatanet.net> |
Subject: | Fly-in to Homer's |
Gentlemen,
Just a reminder to mark your calendars for June 16th. to fly to Homer
Kolb's farm for a homecoming get together. If you haven't been there
before, I know you will enjoy the hospitality and get a chance to see
Clara and Homer's beautiful farm where our aircraft where conceived and
manufactured. Also hanging in the barn are Homer's earliest creations
that got all this started. That is the Sat. of Fathers Day weekend.
There is an ultralight fly-in at Footlight Ranch in York County, PA also
known as Shreveport North, near Dillsburg that weekend for three days.
Some of us will be going and camping there Sat. night after the get
together at Homer's. A real good chance to meet many other ultralight
pilots and share information. Hope to see you there.
Will be giving out more information as we get closer to the date,
Terry - FireFly #95
Those that said they are coming so far: Add your name if it's not listed.
Gene Zimmerman
John Hauck
Wilmer Zimmerman
John Murr
Earl Zimmerman
Eddy Zimmerman
Luray Weachter
Steve Green
Ron - from Arizona?
Thom Riddle
Bob Bean
Chuck ?
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From: | "David Key" <dhkey(at)msn.com> |
Subject: | Re: BiAnnual Flight Review - POH |
Is it enough to mark the operating limitations on the instruments or do I
need a piece of paper with them on it? Are there some operating limitations
that can't be marked on the instruments?
>How did you get an special/experimental airworthiness certificate without
>Operating Limitations? I've never heard of one being issued without this.
>Did the inspector drop the ball? If you do have the Op Limits,
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From: | "George T. Alexander, Jr." <gtalexander(at)att.net> |
Subject: | Fly-in to Homer's |
Terry:
I plan to be there.
George Alexander
http://gtalexander.home.att.net
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From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Terry
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 9:16 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Fly-in to Homer's
Gentlemen,
Just a reminder to mark your calendars for June 16th. to fly to Homer Kolb's
farm for a homecoming get together. If you haven't been there before, I
know you will enjoy the hospitality and get a chance to see Clara and
Homer's beautiful farm where our aircraft where conceived and manufactured.
Also hanging in the barn are Homer's earliest creations that got all this
started. That is the Sat. of Fathers Day weekend. There is an ultralight
fly-in at Footlight Ranch in York County, PA also known as Shreveport North,
near Dillsburg that weekend for three days. Some of us will be going and
camping there Sat. night after the get together at Homer's. A real good
chance to meet many other ultralight pilots and share information. Hope to
see you there.
Will be giving out more information as we get closer to the date,
Terry - FireFly #95
Those that said they are coming so far: Add your name if it's not listed.
Gene Zimmerman
John Hauck
Wilmer Zimmerman
John Murr
Earl Zimmerman
Eddy Zimmerman
Luray Weachter
Steve Green
Ron - from Arizona?
Thom Riddle
Bob Bean
Chuck ?
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From: | "pat ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
Subject: | Re: Monument Valley 2007 |
Cheerio everybody,
Off to MV in a few hours and facing 11 hours stuck in a seat.
I hadn`t really thought about the length of the flight, being senile, or I
would have started earlier and stopped off somewhere close to the East Coast
for a few days and made it in two hops.
Booked into Goldings for 19 and 20 so see you then.
Signing off for the duration.
Pat
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Subject: | Re: BiAnnual Flight Review - POH |
From: | "Thom Riddle" <thomriddle(at)adelphia.net> |
dhkey,
Operating limitations are typically a lot of words. The ones on our Allegro, for
example, are two pages long. So you will see what I'm talking about, I'm attaching
a copy of ours. Note that the first loaded last and vice versa.
Although these are specific for each airplane, the verbiage is much the same but
not identical on many of them. So in answer to your question about putting them
on the instrument panel, in a word, no. They won't typically fit and the FEDs
are going to be looking for a "document" if you get ramp checked. Non-conformance
to their expectations is an invitation for citation since they are not
known, as a species, to be creative or individuralistic thinkers.
Thom in Buffalo
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From: | Thom Riddle <thomriddle(at)adelphia.net> |
Subject: | Re: Firefly Landing speed |
Jim,
Don't mistake minimum reading on VSI for best glide angle speed.
Minimum reading on the VSI gives you the minimum sink speed which is
typically a lot slower than best glide angle speed. On light aircraft,
absent any better empirical data from actual testing, you can get
pretty close to the best glide angle speed by finding the speed that is
approximately 38% between the stall speed (Vs1) and max continuous
cruise speed (Vh). For example, if your Kolb stalls at 35 mph and its
Vh is 85 mph a good guess at best glide speed will be about 54 mph,
derived as follows.
Vh 85
- Vs1 35
----------
50
x .38
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= 19
+ Vs1 35
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= 54 Vbg approximately
Thom in Buffalo
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From: | <kfackler(at)ameritech.net> |
Subject: | Re: michigan kolb pilots |
I took Malcolm up on his offer and he was true to his word; he bought my
breakfast. This shindig was sponsored by his local EAA chapter and they
did a wonderful job. Very well organized, great food, and nothing but
smiling friendly faces.
Thanks, Malcolm!
-Ken Fackler
Kolb Mark II / N722KM
Rochester MI
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From: Malcolmbru(at)aol.com
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 10:05 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: michigan kolb pilots
midland Barstow mb3 is having a pancake breakfast and I will buy
breakfast for any kolb pilot that fly's in. yes I will , just ask for
Malcolm when you get there ,,malcolm
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From: | TheWanderingWench <thewanderingwench(at)yahoo.com> |
Subject: | #4 Update Ultralight Flight Oregon to MV |
Hello all -
In Update #3, I wrote that we were going to stay with friends in Casa
Grande until the winds died down - perhaps a couple of days. Larry very much wanted
to visit his brother there, and he wasn't happy about the idea of having
less timewith him. Plus, Norm was driving to San Antonio to meet up with me
and spend a few days - he'd get there a day or two before we would, if we waited
in Casa Grande. So we agreed to leave our ultralights in Casa
Grande and drive to San Antonio, have a week-long visit there, then resume our
flight.
Before we left Casa Grande, we checked out my radio again. Neither Larry or I
liked the idea of flying any further without communication. We found that during
the flying turbulence on Tuesday, when my radio had bounced off it's velcro
backing, the tip of the transmission cable had gotten snapped off. Amazingly,
Dobsie had exactly the same type of cable, and
will let me use it for the duration of the flight!
So -
Picture 3 adults, 3 dogs, and a Subaru Station wagon full of gear.
Picture 17 hours of driving, stopping only for fuel and once for Subway sandwiches,
which we ordered and then ate as we drove. Picture me driving from 1:30
- 3:30 a.m. when Larry got tired. (During daylight hours, although Larry drove
the bulk of the way, Karen and I took occasional turns. But Karen has night
blindness and can't drive at night.) And I'm a farm girl - a "go to sleep at
9:00 p.m." type of gal. I couldn't believe that I was awake at 1:30 a.m. - much
less driving!
We got into Springbranch, TX (north of San Antonio) at 6:30 a.m. Larry's brother
and sister-in law showed me to a bedroom, where I sacked out for a couple of
hours until it was a decnt hour to call my friends in Burnet,
TX(80 miles away) that I was here. I went back to sleep until they came.
Now it's Sunday morning and I'm in Burnet, waiting for Norm to arrive. I'll be
going back to Springbranch on Friday evening, and Larry, Karen and I will begin
the drive back to Casa Grande on Saturday morning. We agreed that this time
we'll take 2 days to do the drive - stop Sat. night at a motel. We'll refuel
and get our ultralights ready Sunday once we get to Casa Grande and then fly
out early Monday morning. Weather permitting, of
course!!
Since there's no computers in Monument Valley, and no flying tales to regale you
with until then, you may not hear from me again until we get back home!
Arty
www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com
"Life's a daring adventure or nothing"
Helen Keller
"I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death."
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From: | "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM(at)comcast.net> |
Is there anyone out there that has liability insurance on their N numbered
Kolb? Who is it with and how much?
I have a strip that a few of us want to fly at in Florida. It is perfect for
Kolb but they require N numbers and $500,000 in liagility insurance.
I have been looking for insurance and have been flabergasted with the high
prices I have been quoted. I talked to two differet people from the EAAs
sponsered insurance group. The first one at the Sebring Expo said that most
companies think of Kolbs as ultralights and really don't want to deal with
them. If he could get it it would be around $800.00 per year. At Sun N Fun I
talked to another guy and he was more positive but again quoted around
$800.00. Then as we talked more he asked who did my engine installation. He
said anything other than a professional install of a firewall forward could
only be handled by maybe one company and it would be more expensive. He also
said for that type of aircraft the strip length would have to be al least
1800 ft long. They really don't know these aircraft.
I also talked to someone at the Avemco booth at Sun N Fun. She got in to the
details of the quote but was perplexed because she had no info on the
Avemco data base on any Kolb. I think she really didn't want to insure me so
she gave me a quote of $1,320.00 for just $500,000 liability insurance.
I also checked the arcives and could find any insurance info since 1997.
Does anyone have anything more curannt.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
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From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Is there anyone out there that has liability insurance on their N
numbered
| Kolb? Who is it with and how much?
| Rick Neilsen
Rick:
I am insured through the Falcon Agency, affiliated with EAA. For the
past two years I have been insured for 30,000.00 hull coverage and
1,000,000.00 liability to include passengers. There is no deductible.
$1,500.00 annually.
This insurance is also good for the US, to include all of Alaska, to
Point Barrow, and Canada, to include Tucktoyaktuk, Northwest
Territories. Better coverage and cheaper than AVEMCO, who, BTW,
encouraged me to drop my coverage with them because of their super
increase of premiums. AVEMCO also charged me, in addition to the
normal premium, 1,250.00 to cover me anywhere above the Arctic Circle.
An expensive pain in the butt.
I was never asked who installed my engine or who built my airplane.
They are primarily interested in hours and experience in type and
model aircraft. The more the merrier, plus other aviation experience
thrown in for good luck.
john h
mkIII
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From: | "Steven Green" <Kolbdriver(at)bellsouth.net> |
Falcon insurance through EAA. $600 for $1M liability. No hull coverage.
I thought it was kinda steep, but maybe not.
Steven
Bags packed
Windows waxed
Mount modified for new GPS
Awaiting departute date
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From: | WhiskeyVictor36(at)AOL.COM |
In a message dated 5/6/2007 12:07:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
NeilsenRM(at)comcast.net writes:
Is there anyone out there that has liability insurance on their N numbered
Kolb? Who is it with and how much?
Rick,
I recently received an update about insurance available thru the USUA
(United States Ultralight Association). They have increased the weight limit
to
1150 lbs @ $427. You have to be a member in order to purchase from them. See
all the details at their web site. _www.usua.org/Insurance_
(http://www.usua.org/Insurance)
Bill Varnes
Original Kolb FireStar
Audubon NJ
Do Not Archive
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From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
Subject: | radios / helmet interface |
Can't seem to find this info online (in the list archives or elsewhere)...
I just got an Icom A24 radio (yup, went for the one with VOR after all). I
also have a Comtronics helmet that I won in a raffle a couple of years
ago. Anyway: The Icom comes with a headset adapter, which has 3 plugs
(one for earphones, one for mike, and one for PTT, standard GA I
guess). The Comtronics has a single 3 conductor plug. Now, it's a trivial
matter to make a patch cable to connect them together, or Comtronics sells
an interface cable with PTT for $99, which is ridiculous if it's just a
couple of plugs, a switch, and some wire. If there's an amplifier or some
such as well to interface the Comtronics mike with the Icom radio it makes
more sense to pay the price. Comtronics was vague when I asked a similar
question some time ago, possibly because they'd rather sell the $99 cable...
Anybody know?
-Dana
--
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Okay, who put a "stop payment" on my reality check?
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From: | DAquaNut(at)AOL.COM |
Subject: | Re: radios / helmet interface |
In a message dated 5/6/2007 9:07:20 PM Central Standard Time,
d-m-hague(at)comcast.net writes:
> Comtronics was vague when I asked a similar
> question some time ago, possibly because they'd rather sell the $99 cable...
>
> Anybody know?
>
> -Dana
>
Dana, I just purchased the interface cable from I-com for
my IC-A5. There does not seem to be any amp involved, But it plugs straight
into my radio without the I-com adapter. Hope this helps.
Ed Diebel FF62
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Subject: | Re: Fly-in to Homer's |
From: | "olendorf" <olendorf(at)gmail.com> |
Terry, Add me to the list. I am planning on going to Homer's as well. Of course
it all depends on the weather. Homer's place was great the last time and
the Shreveport's flyin is also fantastic.
--------
Scott Olendorf
Original Firestar, Rotax 447, Powerfin prop
Schenectady, NY
http://KolbFirestar.googlepages.com
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From: | "boyd" <by0ung(at)brigham.net> |
Subject: | battery for kolbs.... |
To all
Fyi..
A while back I needed a new battery for my MkIIIc.. I found a jumpstart
at harbor freight that had a sealed lead acid battery 17 AH for cheaper
than I could buy a battery alone.... the jump start I found was on sale
for around 37 dollars.... an equivalent battery at Arizona battery runs
around 40 dollars plus freight.... the jump start included a battery
charger, light, volt meter, jumper cables ends, and high current switch.
To turn what is turning into a long story short. I called harbor
freight parts line and asked for the price of a replacement battery for the
jump start.... the response was $18.00 plus tax and 4.95 freight. So I
ordered 2,,, one for the kolb and the other for the jump start. The
freight stayed the same, and the total invoice came to $43.33 for 2, 17 AH
batteries,,, the down side is it took round bout 4-5 months for them to
show up... but if you know in advance you are going to need a battery it
is the cheapest I have been able to find. I have ordered from Arizona
battery before and there turn around time is bout 2 days. They were the
next best price I had found.
Ask harbor freight for the replacement battery for jump start.
(item Number 08884)
Boyd
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Subject: | Re: battery for kolbs.... |
From: | "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com> |
There are different qualities of batteries for the Kolb. I would not go with the
cheapest I could find. I am using a 20 AH battery that costs just under 100
bucks. It should work well and last a long time. Some of the very cheap batteries
really dont meet thier advertised specs when new, and degrade very rapidly
with time.
Mike
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have !!!
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From: | "Denny Rowe" <rowedenny(at)windstream.net> |
Subject: | Re: Fly-in to Homer's |
Man am I bumming, there is no way I am going to make it this year, probably
not even going to be flying my bird by than.
Just to many irons in the fire. :-p
You guys have a great time.
Denny
----- Original Message -----
From: "olendorf" <olendorf(at)gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 9:38 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Fly-in to Homer's
>
> Terry, Add me to the list. I am planning on going to Homer's as well.
> Of course it all depends on the weather. Homer's place was great the last
> time and the Shreveport's flyin is also fantastic.
>
> --------
> Scott Olendorf
> Original Firestar, Rotax 447, Powerfin prop
> Schenectady, NY
> http://KolbFirestar.googlepages.com
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=111316#111316
>
>
> --
> 9:01 PM
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Fly-in to Homer's |
From: | "olendorf" <olendorf(at)gmail.com> |
Denny, You have to be able to find 2 days. You should just sell that plane to
me. Or better yet, let me fly it for a couple of years until you can find the
time. [Laughing]
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Scott Olendorf
Original Firestar, Rotax 447, Powerfin prop
Schenectady, NY
http://KolbFirestar.googlepages.com
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From: | "David Kulp" <undoctor(at)rcn.com> |
Subject: | Re: [ Dave Kulp ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! |
Holy stale gigabytes, I sent this months ago!! Must have gotten lost in
cyberspace! Failing to be able to get this posted is why I did the
journal, now it shows up.
The article by B. J. Phillips is more readable here than at the rcn
journal site which is a plus; she wrote a very tasteful article. The
National Enquirer called me shortly after it happened but I declined
their offer. Who knows how they would have treated it or who I'd be
"sharing" the page with!!
I did get a free pair of Rockport shoes from the deal. They were
running a contest 50 words or less what you experienced while wearing
Rockports. Well, I was wearing Rockports (and a cut up the shoe
continuing onto my ankle was the only external injury except for two
almost bruises on my forehead and temple from the action inside my BMW
helmet) so my entry earned me a free pair.
I also want to stress again the danger from cut threads in the end of
the adjustment rod on non-aircraft cables. My home in Lansdale was a
few miles from the Teleflex plant where the marine push-pull cables were
manufactured (they had another over near where Homer lives) and an
engineer came to check out the wreckage.
He explained to me that the cables fractured from the thread roots,
which are cut - machined - rather than rolled with a rounded root (if
it's still called a root) and that the one cable had been fractured
halfway through previously, as evidenced by the polishing of the grain
of the metal halfway through the cross section. I doubt if would be
possible to see a crack in a threaded rod, so I personally wouldn't
trust them in any application on an aircraft again.
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From: | FLYMICHIGAN(at)comcast.net |
Subject: | Re: Fly-in to Homer's |
I just came across a this listing at airporthomes.com. Is this Homer's place?
JUST LISTED 54 Acres. > L:15 Spring Hollow Rd & RT 724 > Beautiful Rolling Hills
& 3 Acre Pond > Land with Airport. > $3,200,000 > Seller will NOT accept
Sub-Division or Development Contingencies. > Possible Seller Financing > MLS #
4612279 > > Beautiful Chester County Farm Land Ideal Property for Air Park Development,
or Equestrian Estate with a Home over looking a 3+ Acre Pond & Dock
(Diving Board Included). 3800 foot turf Licensed Private Landing Strip with clear
approach from both directions. Seller previously kept a Cessna 310 Twin Engine
Airplane (Remember Sky King?) at property.. Possible Seller Financing! The
Phoenixville area and Phoenixville itself is high growth area. And Like the
mythological bird the Phoenix, Phoenixville is rising from the ashes of Phoenix
Steel. In the center of Phoenixville (The previous site of Phoenix Steel) is
being revitalized with new Residential, Commercial, Restaurants, and a planed
new train service to Philadelphia. Seller will NOT
accep
t Sub-Division or Development Contingencies. From Phoenixville - Rt 113 - Rt23
West - Right on Rt 724 - Right on Spring Hollow Rd. - Property on Left - Corner
of Rt. 724 & Spring Hollow Rd.
Bryan Dever
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Subject: | Re: Re. Battery for Kolb |
Boyd,
I like the idea of using pre packaged items that can be broken down for
their sub components.
Great idea
thanks
Steve B
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From: | "Ed Chmielewski" <edchmiel(at)mindspring.com> |
Subject: | Re: battery for kolbs.... |
Hi Boyd,
Despite the naysayers, many economy batteries are just as good as
their more expensive counterparts with similar design (size, plate count,
etc).
As for Recombinant Gas (RCG), they seem to be the wave of the
future. Store current longer, more forgiving of misuse and temperature
variations, etc. They are generally much more expensive, though
Ed in JXN
MkII/503
----- Original Message -----
From: "boyd" <by0ung(at)brigham.net>
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 11:04 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: battery for kolbs....
>
> To all
>
> Fyi..
>
> A while back I needed a new battery for my MkIIIc.. I found a jumpstart
> at harbor freight that had a sealed lead acid battery 17 AH for cheaper
> than I could buy a battery alone.
(Snip)
> Ask harbor freight for the replacement battery for jump start.
> (item Number 08884)
>
>
> Boyd
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Subject: | Re: Ms Dixie update |
From: | "Paul Petty" <paulpetty(at)myway.com> |
Kolbers,
For those of you who are following my work on N408CP/Kolbra012 I delete photos
on the MSN site daily to make room for more..thus this changes the links in previous
post...SO if your keeping track and use the MSN site I use bookmark this
link...
http://groups.msn.com/AerialWorld/kolbra012.msnw?Page=1
Then use the "page" button to go to the last page.
Sorry for the confusion but this is the fastest way to upload photos for me.
Regards
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Paul Petty
Kolbra #12
Ms Dixie
Final assembly!
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Subject: | Re: Ms Dixie update |
From: | "olendorf" <olendorf(at)gmail.com> |
Hell yes, we are following your work. I was looking at your nice new smoked canopy
when it dawned on me that you don't seem to have any air vents or windows
to open if you need a little fresh air. I think you are going to bake. What
do you think? Is there an air vent I didn't see like maybe a naca vent under
the nose cone?
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Scott Olendorf
Original Firestar, Rotax 447, Powerfin prop
Schenectady, NY
http://KolbFirestar.googlepages.com
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From: | Thom Riddle <thomriddle(at)adelphia.net> |
Subject: | Re: battery for kolbs....battery for kolbs.... |
Boyd,
Is this the jump start at Harbor Freight you are talking about?
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=91045
Or perhaps this one?
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=38391
Thom in Buffalo
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From: | "David Kulp" <undoctor(at)rcn.com> |
Subject: | Re: Fly-in to Homer's |
Bryan, it's not far away, but it's not Homer's place. He lives on Wall
St., which roughly parallels Rt. 724 and runs from Spring City to
Phoenixville between 724 and the Schuylkill River.
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From: | "boyd" <by0ung(at)brigham.net> |
Subject: | battery for kolbs.... |
Hi Boyd,
Despite the naysayers, many economy batteries are just as good as
their more expensive counterparts with similar design (size, plate count,
etc).
with 3 years and counting on the first,,,,, at $18.00 a pop.... = not
bad service. Like I said,,,, only down side... long delivery time.
Boyd
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From: | "boyd" <by0ung(at)brigham.net> |
Subject: | Re: battery for kolbs....battery for kolbs.... |
Boyd,
Is this the jump start at Harbor Freight you are talking about?
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=91045
Or perhaps this one?
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=38391
Thom in Buffalo
>>>>>>>>>>
Thom.... the second link shows the jump start with the 17AH battery....
that would be the correct battery to comply with the requirements for the
912.... but the jump start is a bit different than the one I have.... the
overall appearance of the case is the same.
the first link only has a 12 AH battery. If I remember correctly John H.
said that he was using the 12AH battery with the new style starter on his
912s..
I bought my jump starts over 3 years ago when they had a good sale going....
I think what had happened they had got a new supply in and wanted to get rid
of the old stock..... when they ran out of the old stock,,, they
substituted it with the new stock...
I probably forgot to mention.... the jump start also included a very small
air compressor.... along with the battery charger (110V that turns itself
off when charged) the first link shows the 110 v power cord for the charger,
the second link does not show the charging power cord...volt meter, light,
12 v cigarette lighter adapter, 12 v charging port, short battery cables
with clamps, high current disconnect switch. Because it was cheaper than
a battery alone.... I bought 2,, robbed the battery from one for the
plane.... and continue to use one in my business....
If you want to order the battery only order the replacement battery for the
second link.
Boyd
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Subject: | Re: battery for kolbs....battery for kolbs.... |
From: | "Thom Riddle" <thomriddle(at)adelphia.net> |
Boyd,
Thanks for the very helpful info. There is a Harbor Freight store close by so I'm
going to see what that have in the store here. I don't even need a battery
now but ours is about 3 1/2 years old and behaving itself well but I try to keep
good suppliers in mind.
Thom in Buffalo
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Subject: | Re: pictures from a kolb |
From: | "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot1(at)tx.rr.com> |
Great flying today before the storms return tonight!
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John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolbra, 912ULS
http://home.tx.rr.com/kolbrapilot
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From: | Flycrazy8(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Re: Seaplane Base Hanger |
Well It doesn't look like much yet but this is the future home of FF007.
Steve
Hey Steve
Instead of concrete just fill that hole with water and your plane will be
set. . .
Looks like you got plenty of help so I don't need to offer my
help....(darn)....:-))
LQQKing Good tho ........ :-))
Stephen
Firefly 2003/035
Alabama
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From: | possums <possums(at)bellsouth.net> |
At 06:26 PM 5/9/2007, you wrote:
>The bottom half will be skinned aluminum and the
>top with
>my leftover 1/8" GE MR10 scratch resistant lexan.
>Where are you getting the scratch resistant lexan?
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From: | "Jim Kmet" <jlsk1(at)frontiernet.net> |
Hi all, have a quick Q.
I was Setting prop pitch today on my newly Overhauled 582 ( I`ve never
run one before) & got the RPMs set at 6350, EGT & CHT are running right
where I want them, but the water temp guage was about to reach 200
degrees.( EIS) Keep in mind this was a static run, & outside temps were
about 83 degrees. Should I expect temps to be within limits once
airborne on a similar day because of much increased airflow through the
standard radiators? Or should I be concerned about the static temps?
Thanks, Jim
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From: | Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62(at)earthlink.net> |
Subject: | Re: 582 water temps |
Jim,
You should expect temp to come down once airborne.
Gene
On May 9, 2007, at 9:15 PM, Jim Kmet wrote:
> Hi all, have a quick Q.
> I was Setting prop pitch today on my newly Overhauled 582 ( I`ve
> never run one before) & got the RPMs set at 6350, EGT & CHT are
> running right where I want them, but the water temp guage was about
> to reach 200 degrees.( EIS) Keep in mind this was a static run, &
> outside temps were about 83 degrees. Should I expect temps to be
> within limits once airborne on a similar day because of much
> increased airflow through the standard radiators? Or should I be
> concerned about the static temps?
> Thanks, Jim
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List_-
> ============================================================ _-
> forums.matronics.com_-
> ===========================================================
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Subject: | Re: pictures from a kolb |
From: | "olendorf" <olendorf(at)gmail.com> |
Beautiful night here as well. I went up to 10,509 feet tonight. That's from taking
off at 240 feet.
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Scott Olendorf
Original Firestar, Rotax 447, Powerfin prop
Schenectady, NY
http://KolbFirestar.googlepages.com
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Subject: | Re: pictures from a kolb |
From: | "olendorf" <olendorf(at)gmail.com> |
Beautiful night here as well. I went up to 10,509 feet tonight. That's from taking
off at 240 feet. That beats my record by 2000 feet.
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Scott Olendorf
Original Firestar, Rotax 447, Powerfin prop
Schenectady, NY
http://KolbFirestar.googlepages.com
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From: | "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com> |
Subject: | Re: 582 water temps |
Jim, Since I just did an annual on a Cosmos trike that didn't, you do have
the head vented properly, don't you?
Rick
On 5/9/07, Eugene Zimmerman wrote:
>
>
> Jim,
>
> You should expect temp to come down once airborne.
>
> Gene
>
>
> On May 9, 2007, at 9:15 PM, Jim Kmet wrote:
>
> > Hi all, have a quick Q.
> > I was Setting prop pitch today on my newly Overhauled 582 ( I`ve
> > never run one before) & got the RPMs set at 6350, EGT & CHT are
> > running right where I want them, but the water temp guage was about
> > to reach 200 degrees.( EIS) Keep in mind this was a static run, &
> > outside temps were about 83 degrees. Should I expect temps to be
> > within limits once airborne on a similar day because of much
> > increased airflow through the standard radiators? Or should I be
> > concerned about the static temps?
> > Thanks, Jim
> > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List_-
> > ============================================================ _-
> > forums.matronics.com_-
> > ===========================================================
>
>
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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From: | "Jim Kmet" <jlsk1(at)frontiernet.net> |
Subject: | Re: 582 water temps |
I Think so, its set up just like the blow-up pic in the airwolf
cataloge, & just the way it was when I got it, 200 Plus hours on a MK-3.
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Girard
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 9:02 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 582 water temps
Jim, Since I just did an annual on a Cosmos trike that didn't, you do
have the head vented properly, don't you?
Rick
On 5/9/07, Eugene Zimmerman wrote:
etzim62(at)earthlink.net>
Jim,
You should expect temp to come down once airborne.
Gene
On May 9, 2007, at 9:15 PM, Jim Kmet wrote:
> Hi all, have a quick Q.
> I was Setting prop pitch today on my newly Overhauled 582 ( I`ve
> never run one before) & got the RPMs set at 6350, EGT & CHT are
> running right where I want them, but the water temp guage was
about
> to reach 200 degrees.( EIS) Keep in mind this was a static run, &
> outside temps were about 83 degrees. Should I expect temps to be
> within limits once airborne on a similar day because of much
> increased airflow through the standard radiators? Or should I be
> concerned about the static temps?
> Thanks, Jim
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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From: | "David Kulp" <undoctor(at)rcn.com> |
Subject: | Re: Fly-in to Homer's |
I replied that the property for sale below was near Homer's but not his
place. Seems I was in error. Check the thread below.
From: FLYMICHIGAN(at)comcast.net Subject: Re: Fly-in to Homer's
I just came across a this listing at airporthomes.com. Is this
Homer's place?
JUST LISTED 54 Acres. > L:15 Spring Hollow Rd & RT 724 >
Beautiful Rolling Hills
& 3 Acre Pond > Land with Airport. > $3,200,000 > Seller will NOT
accept
Sub-Division or Development Contingencies. > Possible Seller
Financing > MLS #
4612279 > > Beautiful Chester County Farm Land Ideal Property for
Air Park Development,
or Equestrian Estate with a Home over looking a 3+ Acre Pond &
Dock
(Diving Board Included). 3800 foot turf Licensed Private Landing
Strip with clear
approach from both directions. Seller previously kept a Cessna 310
Twin Engine
Airplane (Remember Sky King?) at property.. Possible Seller
Financing! The
Phoenixville area and Phoenixville itself is high growth area. And
Like the
mythological bird the Phoenix, Phoenixville is rising from the
ashes of Phoenix
Steel. In the center of Phoenixville (The previous site of Phoenix
Steel) is
being revitalized with new Residential, Commercial, Restaurants,
and a planed
new train service to Philadelphia. Seller will NOT accep
t Sub-Division or Development Contingencies. From Phoenixville -
Rt 113 - Rt23
West - Right on Rt 724 - Right on Spring Hollow Rd. - Property on
Left - Corner
of Rt. 724 & Spring Hollow Rd. Bryan Dever
>From Gene Zimmerman:
David,
It looks to me like it is Homer's place.
Kolb Airport 43PA, PA
By golly Gene, I believe you're right. I wasn't aware he owned all the
way to 724. If you go to the Google maps link below you can see his
drive coming south off of Wall St. with the lake to the east of the
house. Since Wall St. is a narrow country road I suppose they market it
from 724 since that's a major thorofare. I've only ever driven to his
house; if I'd have flown in I would have realized it.
Well, if two or three of us come up with 3 mil we can have one gorgeous
property!
Dave
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=spring+hollow+rd+rt+724&ie=UTF8
&near=Spring+City,+PA&f=l&ll=40.155983,-75.541735&spn=0.01745,0.0
29182&t=h&z=15&om=1
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From: | "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com> |
Subject: | Re: 582 water temps |
The vent on my 582 runs from the mag side vent to a tee in the vent line
between the upper tanks of the radiators. It's a small thing to miss. The
trike I annualed had been used in three WSC Repairman Inspector classes and
no one had written it up as a defect. The trike is a 1997 or 98 vintage and
there is no evidence that the head vent was ever put in. Rotax says the vent
is a must do for the engine to cool properly. Go figure.
Rick
On 5/9/07, Jim Kmet wrote:
>
> I Think so, its set up just like the blow-up pic in the airwolf cataloge,
> & just the way it was when I got it, 200 Plus hours on a MK-3.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Richard Girard
> *To:* kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 09, 2007 9:02 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Kolb-List: 582 water temps
>
> Jim, Since I just did an annual on a Cosmos trike that didn't, you do have
> the head vented properly, don't you?
>
> Rick
>
> On 5/9/07, Eugene Zimmerman wrote:
> >
> > etzim62(at)earthlink.net>
> >
> > Jim,
> >
> > You should expect temp to come down once airborne.
> >
> > Gene
> >
> >
> > On May 9, 2007, at 9:15 PM, Jim Kmet wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all, have a quick Q.
> > > I was Setting prop pitch today on my newly Overhauled 582 ( I`ve
> > > never run one before) & got the RPMs set at 6350, EGT & CHT are
> > > running right where I want them, but the water temp guage was about
> > > to reach 200 degrees.( EIS) Keep in mind this was a static run, &
> > > outside temps were about 83 degrees. Should I expect temps to be
> > > within limits once airborne on a similar day because of much
> > > increased airflow through the standard radiators? Or should I be
> > > concerned about the static temps?
> > > Thanks, Jim
> > > http://www.matron
> >
> >
> >
> > <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List_->
>
>
> --
> Rick Girard
> "Ya'll drop on in"
> takes on a whole new meaning
> when you live at the airport.
>
> *
>
> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List
> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
> *
>
> *
>
>
> *
>
>
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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From: | "Dennis Souder" <flykolb(at)pa.net> |
Subject: | Re: Fly-in to Homer's |
Actually it belongs to someone else. The properties are adjoining and it
has its own pond too; half the airstrip is on Homer's property and half is
on the one that is for sale.
Dennis
_____
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Kulp
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 12:16 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Fly-in to Homer's
I replied that the property for sale below was near Homer's but not his
place. Seems I was in error. Check the thread below.
From:
FLYMICHIGAN(at)comcast.net
Subject:
Re: Fly-in to Homer's
I just came across a this listing at airporthomes.com. Is this Homer's
place? JUST LISTED 54 Acres. > L:15 Spring Hollow Rd & RT 724 > Beautiful
Rolling Hills & 3 Acre Pond > Land with Airport. > $3,200,000 > Seller will
NOT accept Sub-Division or Development Contingencies. > Possible Seller
Financing > MLS # 4612279 > > Beautiful Chester County Farm Land Ideal
Property for Air Park Development, or Equestrian Estate with a Home over
looking a 3+ Acre Pond & Dock (Diving Board Included). 3800 foot turf
Licensed Private Landing Strip with clear approach from both directions.
Seller previously kept a Cessna 310 Twin Engine Airplane (Remember Sky
King?) at property.. Possible Seller Financing! The Phoenixville area and
Phoenixville itself is high growth area. And Like the mythological bird the
Phoenix, Phoenixville is rising from the ashes of Phoenix Steel. In the
center of Phoenixville (The previous site of Phoenix Steel) is being
revitalized with new Residential, Commercial, Restaurants, and a planed new
train service to Philadelphia. Seller will NOT accep t Sub-Division or
Development Contingencies. From Phoenixville - Rt 113 - Rt23 West - Right on
Rt 724 - Right on Spring Hollow Rd. - Property on Left - Corner of Rt. 724 &
Spring Hollow Rd. Bryan Dever
>From Gene Zimmerman:
David,
It looks to me like it is Homer's place.
Kolb Airport 43PA, PA
By golly Gene, I believe you're right. I wasn't aware he owned all the way
to 724. If you go to the Google maps link below you can see his drive
coming south off of Wall St. with the lake to the east of the house. Since
Wall St. is a narrow country road I suppose they market it from 724 since
that's a major thorofare. I've only ever driven to his house; if I'd have
flown in I would have realized it.
Well, if two or three of us come up with 3 mil we can have one gorgeous
property!
Dave
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=spring+hollow+rd+rt+724&ie=UTF8&near=Spr
ing+City,+PA&f=l&ll=40.155983,-75.541735&spn=0.01745,0.029182&t=h&z=15&om=1
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From: | "Bob Griffin" <airgriff(at)surferz.net> |
Subject: | Re: 582 water temps |
Hi Jim, Rotax also recommends to run a water hose over the radiator
during static run ups on hot days, if needed to control temps. Be
carefull not to spray too much water through the prop and to secure the
hose well.
Fly Safe
Bob Griffin
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From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
Subject: | Prep For MV 2007 Flight |
Morning Gang:
Trying to get all the loose ends tied up in prep for departure next
Tuesday morning, 15 May.
Travis Brown has been working overtime to get me some needed parts for
the mkIII. We had a heck of a time getting the extra large oil
cooler. He contacted everybody in the US who might have one. I am
pleased to say the UPS man dropped it off yesterday afternoon. Will
try to get it installed today.
Over the years, I have used the small Rotax oil cooler for the 912UL,
the medium for the last 912ULS, but decided to go with the extra large
Rotax oil cooler for the new 912ULS. The reason for the upgrade to a
larger cooler is high temps. There were times, expecially in the
dessert, I was flying with oil temps pushing the red line. Once in
Death Valley I had to back off power to bring the engine oil temps
back into the green. This new extra large cooler should take care of
high engine oil temps and make my cross country flight out West a bit
more comfortable.
I piggy back the oil cooler on the radiator. Increasing the size of
the oil cooler will cover a little more radiator. Should help bring
up CHT and lower eng oil temps. The 912 series engines, I have
discovered, like to run with nice warm CHT, especially in the winter
months when the temps get down into the 40s and 50s F.
Got to play with my drag strut universal joints. I did not mark them
before pulling the wings. Must have gotten them back on 180 deg out
of rigging. Back to a slight roll to the right, which I had gotten
rid of many years ago. If that will not do it, I will put the bungie
cord back on the stick for forced roll trim. That system is simple
and works great.
Need to do the first oil change at the same time I change out the oil
cooler. I think I have about 18 hours on the new engine. Normal
first oil change is 25 hours, but won't hurt a thing to change it out
a little early. Might even be good for it. ;-)
Got my Garmin 196 GPS Jeppesen and Obstacle Clearance data bases
updated and ready to fly.
Better get busy. Got stuff to do.
john h
mkIII
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From: | "Jim Kmet" <jlsk1(at)frontiernet.net> |
Subject: | Re: 582 water temps |
Makes perfect sense, I just wondered if the high temps that I saw during
static run-up were typical, sounds like they are. Thanks, Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Griffin
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 6:16 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 582 water temps
Hi Jim, Rotax also recommends to run a water hose over the
radiator during static run ups on hot days, if needed to control temps.
Be carefull not to spray too much water through the prop and to secure
the hose well.
Fly Safe
Bob Griffin
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From: | "Jim Kmet" <jlsk1(at)frontiernet.net> |
Subject: | Re: 582 water temps |
There is a vent on the forward side of the engine top,, just forward of
the front 2 spark plugs, & a vent plug just forward of the 2 rear spark
plugs. Rotax sez to use the higher of the 2 vents . This hose routes to
a T that return to both sides of the radiator. I assume thats the vent
you`re reffering to? :) Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Girard
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 1:04 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 582 water temps
The vent on my 582 runs from the mag side vent to a tee in the vent
line between the upper tanks of the radiators. It's a small thing to
miss. The trike I annualed had been used in three WSC Repairman
Inspector classes and no one had written it up as a defect. The trike is
a 1997 or 98 vintage and there is no evidence that the head vent was
ever put in. Rotax says the vent is a must do for the engine to cool
properly. Go figure.
Rick
On 5/9/07, Jim Kmet wrote:
I Think so, its set up just like the blow-up pic in the airwolf
cataloge, & just the way it was when I got it, 200 Plus hours on a MK-3.
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Girard
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 9:02 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 582 water temps
Jim, Since I just did an annual on a Cosmos trike that didn't, you
do have the head vented properly, don't you?
Rick
On 5/9/07, Eugene Zimmerman wrote:
etzim62(at)earthlink.net>
Jim,
You should expect temp to come down once airborne.
Gene
On May 9, 2007, at 9:15 PM, Jim Kmet wrote:
> Hi all, have a quick Q.
> I was Setting prop pitch today on my newly Overhauled 582 (
I`ve
> never run one before) & got the RPMs set at 6350, EGT & CHT
are
> running right where I want them, but the water temp guage was
about
> to reach 200 degrees.( EIS) Keep in mind this was a static
run, &
> outside temps were about 83 degrees. Should I expect temps to
be
> within limits once airborne on a similar day because of much
> increased airflow through the standard radiators? Or should I
be
> concerned about the static temps?
> Thanks, Jim
> http://www.matron
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From: | jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com |
Subject: | Re: Prep For MV 2007 Flight |
> Since you are a right seater from way back, you didn't put on a
> few pounds lately that may have knocked you out of trim to the
> right???? [Twisted Evil] [Laughing]
>
> --------
> Thanks too much,
>
> John Bickham
John B:
As a matter of fact, I did put on 4 lbs this past week. ;-)
Had not thought of that.
Think I will still rotate the universals and see if there is a
difference. Since there is nothing precision on my airplane, except
the engine and prop, it is probably out enough to make a little
difference in roll.
John W told me to secure the lift strut with a rope and tie it off to
the tail. Then I can take the bolt out of the universal and rotate it
180 degrees by myself.
Still got to calibrate the tach and make sure the new prop is dialed
in correctly. Didn't have time to do that before I flew to Lakeland,
but it did fly good. May have one blade a hair out of adjustment from
the other two. Or maybe it is two out and one in. Anyhow, gonna try
and get them all reading off the same sheet of music and letting the
912ULS turn 5,500 rpm WOT straight and level flight.
john h
mkIII
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From: | WhiskeyVictor36(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Re: Fly-in to Homer's |
In a message dated 5/5/2007 9:16:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
tkrolfe(at)usadatanet.net writes:
Add your name if it's not listed.
Terry,
You can add Alan Mancus and Bill Varnes to the list.
Bill Varnes
Original Kolb FireStar
Audubon NJ
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From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
Subject: | Oil Filter Rotax 912ULS |
Hi Folks:
Just got back from the airstrip. Upgraded my oil cooler from a medium
(Rotax Large) to a large (Rotax Extra Large) on the 912ULS. During
flights out West, in recent years, I have had to keep a very close eye
on the engine oil temp gauge. At one point while flying Death Valley,
I had to reduce power to keep the engine oil temp below the red line.
Anxious to see if the money and effort was worth it or not. I am
pretty sure I will get the results I want. Maybe a little lower
engine oil temp and a little higher CHT.
Discovered something interesting during my work on the mkIII today. I
checked the oil in the tank prior to cracking any oil lines, or
turning over the engine. To my dismay, the oil level in the tank had
dropped to the lower portion of the stick out of the operational
range. Since it was full when I put the airplane away a week ago, the
only answer to that would be the oil siphoned out of the tank and into
the crank case because the anti-siphon valve in the oil filter
malfunctioned.
After I got the new cooler installed, I turned the engine over by hand
to blow the oil out of the crankcase and back into the oil tank. Next
time I checked the oil was just over the bottom of the operational
line about a quarter of an inch.
As most of you know, I use Fram TG3614 oil filters in my 912ULS. I
was a little disappointed that the anti-siphon valve failed, until I
remembered, I still had a black oil filter installed. The original
Rotax filter. I have yet to do the first oil change which is due at
25 hours. So..........my track record for my Fram TG3614 is still
100%. I have one on the bench to install before I depart for MV
Tuesday morning.
All that is left to do now is dial in prop pitch, adjust throttle
friction, rotate drag strut universals, re-rivet the left aileron
counter balance weight that for some reason decided to loosen up in
the leading edge of the aileron, and wash the carpenter bee crap and
saw dust off the wings.
Right now it is break time. Too hot to work in this 94F heat.
john h
mkIII
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From: | "boyd" <by0ung(at)brigham.net> |
Maybe a little lower
engine oil temp and a little higher CHT.
john h
mkIII
>>>>>>>>>>>>
john
why would a lower oil temp result in a higher cht?
boyd
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From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| why would a lower oil temp result in a higher cht?
|
| boyd
Hi Boyd:
Good question. I am glad you asked.
Folks, you don't get much past Boyd.
The new oil cooler is about 1.5 to 2" taller than the old one. It is
piggy backed on the radiator. Figured covering up more of the
radiator would bring up the CHT, while lowering the eng oil temp.
However, it may cancel itself out. Don't know yet. Have not test
flown with the new cooler.
Temps here are conducive to eng oil cooler testing. Yesterday was 94F
and today is 92F.
Main thing I was shooting for was bring down the eng oil temp so I
could run hard in hotter OAT. May have to swing by Death Valley this
trip to test it. ;-)
john h
mkIII
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From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
Subject: | Tach Calibration |
Hi Gang:
Did not take time to calibrate the old tach after installing the new
912ULS. Got her dialed in and flew to Lakeland and back. 18.0 hours
on the new engine today. Did a tack calibration and was surprised
that it was off by about 300 rpm. I thought I was turning 5,400
static, but was actually turning 5,700. Like flying with a 5 speed
and cruising in 4th. We'll take care of that little problem tomorrow.
Should be able to pull another 1.5 degrees of pitch into the prop.
Ought to do wonders for my cruise speed and fuel burn. We shall see
what happens during the flight West. Nothing sorts out an airplane
and pilot than spending two, three, four weeks in the cockpit and
flying a hundred hours or so. If there is something you want to find
out about the system, you will find out on a cross country like that.
Two days and counting,
john h
mkIII
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From: | "Doug Wetzel" <dougwe(at)comcast.net> |
I think you'll find the Utah weather accommodating enough for you, John. It
was 91 here in Salt Lake yesterday.
Doug Wetzel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of John Hauck
Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: oil cooler
| why would a lower oil temp result in a higher cht?
|
| boyd
Hi Boyd:
Good question. I am glad you asked.
Folks, you don't get much past Boyd.
The new oil cooler is about 1.5 to 2" taller than the old one. It is
piggy backed on the radiator. Figured covering up more of the
radiator would bring up the CHT, while lowering the eng oil temp.
However, it may cancel itself out. Don't know yet. Have not test
flown with the new cooler.
Temps here are conducive to eng oil cooler testing. Yesterday was 94F
and today is 92F.
Main thing I was shooting for was bring down the eng oil temp so I
could run hard in hotter OAT. May have to swing by Death Valley this
trip to test it. ;-)
john h
mkIII
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From: | "Jimmy Young" <jdy1(at)houston.rr.com> |
Subject: | ultralight training, Houston area |
Can anyone suggest an Ultralight instructor in the Houston, TX area? I
want to learn to fly an ultralight, and I eventually plan to purchase a
Kolb Firefly. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks- Jimmy Young
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From: | DAquaNut(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Re: ultralight training, Houston area |
Jimmy,
Contact me at 713- 944-1147 and I will try to steer you in the right
direction.
Ed Diebel (In Houston FF 62)
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From: | DAquaNut(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Re: Ivo Prop and Decarbon |
List,
Here's a heads up on the Ivo. Last time I flew the FF she had a vibration.
The cht's were high and the EGT's were low. Im at 50 hrs and decided to go on
with the decarbon. Good decision , cause when I was removing the prop I saw
that the adjusting ear was broken off one of the blades. I feel sure that is the
cause of the vibration as well as the low EGT's and the High CHT's. Seems to
be a fair amount of carbon on the intake side of the head as well as the
piston crown. Can anyone tell me If the gearbox has to be removed to get the
lower shroud off the cylinders on the 447?
Ed Diebel
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From: | Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62(at)earthlink.net> |
Subject: | Sam Peachy's annual spring Fly-in |
Had a wonderful day Saturday at Sam Peachy's annual spring fly-in and
met Homer and Clara.
Homer was delighted to see all the Kolb pilots show up when six of
us flew in together.
Homer and Clara said they are eager to host everyone again at the
Kolb estate on June 16. Pray for another gorgeous day.
Homer Kolb and Wilmer Zimmerman
Sam Peachy in his Firestar.
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From: | Russ Kinne <russ(at)rkiphoto.com> |
Subject: | Re: Oil Filter Rotax 912ULS |
HEY MAN!
BON VOYAGE!!
FAIR WINDS --
Russ
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From: | DAquaNut(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Re: FireFly prop |
Fireflyers,
Anyone out there flying with a 2-blade 64" prop. Seems my Ivo has
cratered and it is only about 30% more for a whole new prop than a single replacement
blade. Is anyone flying a warp drive on a 447 W/ b box. I am intertaining
that thought as John H has had good luck with his. Does the Warp flex more than
the Ivo? Is it too heavy for the b box . Any Thoughts?
Ed Diebel
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From: | "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
Subject: | Re: FireFly prop |
Do not know the weight of that prop, but I think a 64" 2 blade Warp
ought to be safe with a B box, but I would use Mobil One synthetic or
equivilent and change it often. I put a Warp 66" 2 blade on a used B
box, total time unknown, and it ended up making metal. But since total
time was unknown, that proves nothing. The Warp does not flex like an
Ivo. Nothing flexes like an Ivo...
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
----- Original Message -----
From: DAquaNut(at)aol.com
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FireFly prop
Fireflyers,
Anyone out there flying with a 2-blade 64" prop. Seems my Ivo has
cratered and it is only about 30% more for a whole new prop than a
single replacement blade. Is anyone flying a warp drive on a 447 W/ b
box. I am intertaining that thought as John H has had good luck with
his. Does the Warp flex more than the Ivo? Is it too heavy for the b box
. Any Thoughts?
Ed Diebel
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Subject: | Re: FireFly prop |
In a message dated 5/13/2007 6:09:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
DAquaNut(at)aol.com writes:
Does the Warp flex more than the Ivo? Is it too heavy for the b box . Any
Thoughts?
The Warp does not flex hardly at all, but it's way too heavy for the b box.
Howard Shackleford
FS II
SC
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From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
Subject: | Re: Ivo Prop and Decarbon |
| Do you have a CPS Catolog ? ( California Power Systems )
| Mike & "Jaz" in
MN
Gang:
You can get the official Rotax manuals for all their engines on the
Kodiak web page. Very convenient to be able to pull up the current
manuals for free.
I understand CPS has a nice catalog, but it ain't gospel.
john h
mkIII
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From: | <kfackler(at)ameritech.net> |
Subject: | Final certification |
Dateline: May 12 2007, Ray Center, Michigan
Two local men, Ken Fackler, and Mark Gray, after months of work and
preparation achieved a major milestone today. They each were given
airworthiness certificates for their Kolb Experimental Light Sport aircraft.
Ken Fackler, an instructional designer with Electronic Data Systems, has
been flying the tiny craft since 1982. His friend, hangar mate, and 'flying
buddy' learned to fly in sailplanes while living in Canada. Both men have
been flying their Kolbs over SE Michigan for the past 5 years.
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: | Re: Final certification |
From: | "John H Murphy" <jhm9812(at)yahoo.com> |
Any pearls of wisdom in getting certified?
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=112681#112681
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From: | WhiskeyVictor36(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Re: Ivo Prop and Decarbon |
In a message dated 5/13/2007 4:58:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
DAquaNut(at)aol.com writes:
Can anyone tell me If the gearbox has to be removed to get the lower shroud
off the cylinders on the 447?
Ed,
I just finished doing a top end overhaul on my 447 and the lower shroud was
removed without messing with the gear box or the fan tower. I found it to be
slightly stubborn, not bending it, but twisting somewhat to get it in and
out of place.
In lieu of using Sea Foam, Yamaha is distributing a product called Ring
Free. Mix it into the fuel and it is supposed to remove and/or eliminate carbon
deposits and eliminate sticky rings. I am going to start using it.
Bill Varnes
Original Kolb FireStar
Audubon NJ
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Subject: | Re: Final certification |
From: | "Ralph B" <ul15rhb(at)juno.com> |
I got mine certified last July and the DAR spent 5 minutes looking it over. Most
of it is making sure the paperwork is in order. I was wondering how picky he
would be in checking my 20 year old plane. He said that it was in good condition
and made his stamp in my logbook. There was hardly anything to it and was
gone an hour later.
Ralph
--------
Ralph B
Original Firestar
20 years flying it
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From: | "JAMES BEARD" <JAMESBEARD305(at)msn.com> |
Hey John H and group! The recent loss of a dear friend causes us to
cancel our plans for MV as I must attend the funeral service. I have
just cancelled my reservation at gouldings campground. if you hurry,
you may get a 33 ft motorhome slot.
Good luck and safe flying to you all.... we'll see you all again next
year, when Jackalope may be flying.
Highest regards, Jim and Sandy
Beard
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From: | Bob Noyer <a58r(at)verizon.net> |
Subject: | Re: A/N hardware torque specs |
clk on Google: aircraft hardware torque values. Internet's a
wonderful tool...just use it. Takes abt 15 secs instead of all
evening! Also, AC43-13.
regards,
Bob N. FireFly 070 Old Kolb
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/
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From: | Bob Noyer <a58r(at)verizon.net> |
Subject: | Re: A/N hardware torque specs |
Ok, here it is:
http://exp-aircraft.com/library/alexande/hardware.html
regards,
Bob N. FireFly 070 Old Kolb
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/
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From: | Thom Riddle <thomriddle(at)adelphia.net> |
Subject: | Re: A/N hardware torque specs |
Here is an on-line source:
http://www.raskcycle.com/techtip/webdoc14.html
Thom in Buffalo
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From: | "boyd" <by0ung(at)brigham.net> |
I copied the torque chart from the
Faa advisory circular
Ac 43.13-1b
Acceptable methods, techniques, and practices --- aircraft inspection and
repair.
Get a copy at http://www.brigham.net/~byoung/torque.jpg down size the
picture to print on a page and store it with your plans.
Boyd
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From: | marcus kolb <marcuskolb(at)yahoo.com> |
Subject: | Homer Kolb's Farm with runway for sale? |
Hi folks!
Since I live here and Im Homers son, I figured I could clear this up a bit.
The place listed is John Steimers farm which forms the other end of our Group B airport 43PA. http://www.airnav.com/airport/43PA
If you look at http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=580+wall+street+phoenixville+pa&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=60.158465,95.185547&ie=UTF8&ll=40.157869,-75.544825&spn=0.014415,0.023239&t=h&z=16&iwloc=addr&om=1 You can see the runway with a tree line in about the middle. To the West is Johns farm and to the East is our farm.
Johns property is gorgeous and the pond is larger now then in the satellite picture.
The runway is huge 3200 x 100 wide and flat. Sadly this is the only
one like it around and you could never create a new one anywhere around here
with todays zoning restrictions. I learned to fly on this runway by crow hopping
the Kolb flyer on this wonderful, long stretch of runway.
John is in no hurry to sell since he put so much effort into extending our runway and really loves the property and just hates the idea of putting in a housing development which would not only kill his end of the runway but would most likely cut down our remaining 1200 with obstructions. Im getting nervous since a nice development offer to John could wipe it out and he will eventually sell it. This would make a great flight park either with a large common hangar or each house with its own hangar (farm building). We are in Chester county and if a property is over 10 acres it can qualify for reduced taxes and fewer township hassles under 319 (its considered a farm). http://dsf.chesco.org/chesco/cwp/view.asp?a=1413&q=573695
Stop in or fly in Id be happy to take anyone on a tour.
Regards,
Marcus Kolb
Director of Research and Development
VideoRay, LLC
marcus.kolb(at)videoray.com
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From: | Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62(at)earthlink.net> |
Subject: | Re: FireFly prop |
Jim, I'll agree a three blade may be "better" it you factor in
personal preference. ;^)
On May 15, 2007, at 1:20 PM, jimhefner wrote:
> I had a 2 blade IVO on a 4" extender on the 447 and was very happy
> with it's performance, including climb, but I didn't care to climb
> at 1100'/min either.
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From: | Flycrazy8(at)aol.com |
Subject: | The whole truth....Firefly Prop |
But a two blade prop will out perform a three blade every time when
everything is optimized, especially prop diameter and prop speed.
On May 15, 2007, at 9:35 AM, jimhefner wrote:
>
> A 3 blade prop should out climb a 2 blade prop when everything is
> apples - apples.... different props and configs on different type
> aircraft don't tell you much conclusive about the props. Comparing
> a Firefly climb and cruise to a GT400 is apples and molasses... :)
> Sorry, I couldn't resist.... no offense intended!
>
> --------
> Jim Hefner
> Kolbless in Tucson :(
No offense taken Jim
I should have added that the GT400 has a Rotax 503 with that Ivo Prop .
Maybe why he can out climb my 447 3 -blade Warp . I took that it was the
shorter wing area on the Firefly compared to the longer wing and thus more wing
area on the GT400 . .......What say You ?
I cruise at 65 or 70 mph (indicated) ... The GT 400 cruises at 55 or 60 .
Sorry for not giving the truth and not the whole truth
Stephen Baxley
Firefly 2003 / 035
S.W. Georgia
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Subject: | Re: FireFly prop & others |
In a message dated 5/15/2007 11:54:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
etzim62(at)earthlink.net writes:
But a two blade prop will out perform a three blade every time when
everything is optimized, especially prop diameter and prop speed
Outperform? What does that mean? I have a FS II, 503DCDI, 3.47:1 C Box, &
68" 3 blade Kiev prop; weight of plane is 470 [wet] & I was 275 when the
following results were obtained:
Outclimbed & outran 2 other FS II's; one was grossed same as mine & one 70
lbs lighter. Both had B boxes & with 2 blade props.
The results were the same when I ran a 3 blade Warp, 68" w/ taper tips.
YMMV
Howard Shackleford
FS II
SC
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From: | "Mark Shimei" <mshimei(at)bellsouth.net> |
I am looking for a set of ultrastar wings, covered or not. Preferably not
damaged or minor damage if I get in a hurry.Im located in Florida,can
travel. Mark 321 268-3273.
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From: | <kolbdriver(at)bellsouth.net> |
Subject: | Re: Monument Valley 2007 |
John and I have made it to Russelville, AR.
I was on down-wind to land at Conway and a voice came on the radio asking if that
experimental at Conway was a Kolb. It was John about 15 minutes out. I love
it when a plan comes together. We waited out a thunder storm then made it
to Russellville.
Steven
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From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
Subject: | Re: FireFly prop |
The problem with comparing two and three blade props is that you're always
comparing apples with oranges. All things being equal, the two blade prop
should be the better performer... but things are never equal. I'm not that
familiar with the Firefly, so I'm speaking in general terms:
The fewer blades, the more efficient. Yes, a ONE blade prop is most
efficient... but the weight penalty for the counterweight and a crankshaft
strong enough to handle the asymmetric loading probably negates the
advantages. One bladed props have been used successfully on racing model
airplanes, though. The faster the prop is turning, and the smaller the
prop, the bigger the advantage to fewer blades (which is why they work well
on a model engine turning a tiny prop at 20,000+ rpm!)
The only reason to use more than two blades is if the two bladed prop can't
efficiently absorb the engine's power in the space available. Typically
this is due to ground clearance issues (or tail boom clearance in the case
of a Kolb).
Regardless of the number of blades, any prop will be most efficient if the
blade pitch is set so that each point on the prop is acting at the maximum
L/D. This usually involves a compromise (unless you have an adjustable
prop) since you want the prop to perform well both during climb as well as
cruise. A flatter pitch is better for climb and vice versa. Generally you
optimize it for some speed between climb and cruise.
Now, what if your engine produces more power than the prop can handle? It
overspeeds, so you increase the pitch somewhat, effectively you now have
more of a "cruise prop" than a "climb prop". Since you're off the best L/D
point, it's less efficient. However, you can also absorb more power by
adding blade area: making the blades wider, or adding blades (or both...
look at the huge paddles on a T-28). With more blade area you don't have
to add pitch to prevent overspeeding, so you're still in the better L/D
area, or you're back in the "climb prop" area... which explains why the 3
blade props may perform better on takeoff and climb, at the expense of cruise.
-Dana
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From: | Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62(at)earthlink.net> |
Subject: | Re: FireFly prop & others |
Hey, I dont doubt your experience.
I assume you concluded, based on your experience, that a three-blade
prop will always have the potential to out climb and out run a two
blade?
A prop blade is simply a rotating wing and the reason a two blade
will always have the "potential for better performance is the same
reason high performance sailplanes never have bi-wings.
Performance is maximized by minimizing performance robbing drag
created by the wing tip vortices. A long high aspect wing has better
performance than a shorter bi-wing because the bi-wing has twice as
many drag creating wing tip vortices.
On May 15, 2007, at 8:27 PM, HShack(at)aol.com wrote:
> I have a FS II, 503DCDI, 3.47:1 C Box, & 68" 3 blade Kiev prop;
> weight of plane is 470 [wet] & I was 275 when the following results
> were obtained:
>
> Outclimbed & outran 2 other FS II's; one was grossed same as mine &
> one 70 lbs lighter. Both had B boxes & with 2 blade props.
>
> The results were the same when I ran a 3 blade Warp, 68" w/ taper
> tips.
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Subject: | Re: FireFly prop & others |
In a message dated 5/15/2007 11:06:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
ElleryWeld(at)aol.com writes:
You should show the other guys how to set there Prop ?
Ellery
No, some of them have concluded they need to duplicate my setup; others are
quite happy with less than optimal performance.
Howard Shackleford
FS II
SC
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From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
Subject: | Re: FireFly prop & others |
At 11:01 PM 5/15/2007, Eugene Zimmerman wrote:
>
>Performance is maximized by minimizing performance robbing drag
>created by the wing tip vortices. A long high aspect wing has better
>performance than a shorter bi-wing because the bi-wing has twice as
>many drag creating wing tip vortices.
Actually it's not the wing tip vortices. A biplane is less efficient
because of interference between the wings; the closer together the more
interference. Similarly, the close together the prop blades are (i.e. 3
blade vs. 2 blade) the more interference.
Wing top vortices are part of induced drag, which depends on aspect
ratio. If you could build a biplane with the same aspect ratio for each
wing as the sailplane, AND get them sufficiently far apart for no
interference, you'd get the same performance... but you CAN'T get them far
enough apart, practically speaking, and then there's the drag of supporting
structure, etc...
-Dana
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From: | robert bean <slyck(at)frontiernet.net> |
(subject formerly doors)
Old BB's social life and gardening work keeps him from making rapid
progress.
-but a little gets done occasionally. Someone inquired about the
possibility of
my plane losing some of it's Kolb view. I sat in the passenger seat
with the template
pattern of the lower skin taped in place today. What you would see
at that angle
would be your legs, knees, arms and elbows. They are very rigid so
far and should
be more so once the outer shell goes on.
Note BB's concession to modernity: the $99 Garmin Etrex :)
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