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September 07, 2007 - September 28, 2007
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| From: | WhiskeyVictor36(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Caution- Pictures and non-Kolb content!--- It's a Girl! |
In a message dated 9/7/2007 12:34:37 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
rphanks(at)grantspass.com writes:
I am happy to announce the completion of my first nine month building
project. Elizabeth Anne Hankins was born Sept 4th @ 1:45PM. In other news, my
E-LSA registration was waiting in the mailbox
Well Roger,
Congratulations on 'two' jobs well done!
Bill Varnes
Original Kolb FireStar
Audubon NJ
Do Not Archive
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| From: | "tc1917" <tc1917(at)hughes.net> |
Roger, Now THAT is what I call Amature Built!! Congratulations. A little
girl is a blessing. Best of luck and love. ted
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| From: | gary aman <gaman(at)att.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Did It Again. |
you share the same dilemma we all have.You can give way or you can carry on till
impact.
As I am flying an ultralight vehicle, I am supposed to give way to all
other flying aircraft.>>
Hi,
that is a problem that we dont have in the UK. Steam still gives way to
sail at sea but in the air a plane is a plane is a plane.Except that we all
give way to balloons.
Are you persona non grata because you are unregistered? All aircraft are
registered here. Gliders in the UK but not in Europe have been unregistered
for years but even the gliders have lost that distinction recently in our
rush to regularise things across Europe.
Interesting the way our systems differ. As usual there are swings and
roundabouts(carousels). The problems about selling or registering a plane
by someone other than the builder which is a hot topic on the list at the
moment is just something which does not arise here. On the other hand we do
not have the freedom of your Experimental category .
We have moved a little way toward it though by allowing a really light
ultralight to be built without having to receive a C of A. It will have to
have a noise certificate however and be registered.
The dead hand of bureaucracy is everywhere. Lucky you in spite of the
problems seem to have more freedom left than most of us.
Cheers
Pat ( Still waiting for the paperwork to arrive so that I can test fly my
repaired Xtra.)
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| Subject: | Re: ELT Installation |
| From: | "Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL" <Dennis.Kirby(at)kirtland.af.mil> |
"ropermike" asked, << my Mkll ... I have ordered an AmeriKing AK-450
ELT. Where is the best place to install it? Thanks in advance....Mike >>
Hi, Mike -
Here's how I did it: For installing a AK-450 in my Mark-III, I attached
it to the side of the six-inch tail boom tube, near the forwardmost end
where it attaches to cage structure. I fabricated a pair of wooden
saddle blocks to interface between the 6" tube and the flat ELT base.
Two large hose clamps hold the setup securely against the boom tube.
Access to the ELT switch is easy, right behind the pilot's seat back.
Dennis Kirby
Mark-III, 912ul
Cedar Crest, NM
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| Subject: | Anodizing Aluminum |
Has anyone played around with anodizing their own aluminum parts?
I have been doing research on type II home anodize.
Steve
Firefly 007/Floats
do not archive
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| From: | robert bean <slyck(at)frontiernet.net> |
| Subject: | buzzing vibration |
I went out for a sundown ride last night. Calm on the ground, enough
breeze at pattern altitude for a good crosswind crab, but still smooth.
Being too lazy lately to replace a lost pitot cover, the bugs plugged
that thing. So all my performance numbers were nonexistent.
(although zero mph climb speeds are pretty impressive)
Question is this: in bumpy air I get an intermittent buzzing
effect. Maybe a vibration, maybe only a sound effect. Generally only
when running full cruise above 4700 rpm. It isn't the ailerons
because I KNOW what they do from experience (still got to
move those balancers from the shelf to the wings)
My thinking is that it has something to do with the relationship
between my prop and bump-induced yaw. The sideways
moving prop biting the air unevenly. 3 blade powerfin. Anyone else
experience a similar effect?
BB
MkIIIc, suzuki
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| From: | "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart(at)onlyinternet.net> |
| Subject: | Re: buzzing vibration |
Bob,
Might be a aileron gap seal or center section leak. On my FireFly, I ran
the gap seals the whole way to the pivot arm. The propeller wash wore them
out in the creases and so finally, I removed that portion of the gap seal.
They used to sing like blowing by a blade of grass held between your thumbs
etc.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
>
>I went out for a sundown ride last night. Calm on the ground, enough
>breeze at pattern altitude for a good crosswind crab, but still smooth.
>Being too lazy lately to replace a lost pitot cover, the bugs plugged
>that thing. So all my performance numbers were nonexistent.
>(although zero mph climb speeds are pretty impressive)
>Question is this: in bumpy air I get an intermittent buzzing
>effect. Maybe a vibration, maybe only a sound effect. Generally only
>when running full cruise above 4700 rpm. It isn't the ailerons
>because I KNOW what they do from experience (still got to
>move those balancers from the shelf to the wings)
>My thinking is that it has something to do with the relationship
>between my prop and bump-induced yaw. The sideways
>moving prop biting the air unevenly. 3 blade powerfin. Anyone else
>experience a similar effect?
>BB
>MkIIIc, suzuki
>
>
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| From: | "Charles Davis" <ceddavis(at)gmail.com> |
I now own an airplane! This morning I received my airworthiness certificate
for my Firefly, N7057K, serial # "CD-1".
The inspector certainly looked over the paperwork, but seemed more
interested in helping me get it filled out to a acceptable level, not on
gigging me for mistakes. He did spend about 30 minutes inspecting the
airplane, and made a few suggestions. While he was not overly picky, I got
the definite impression that had he found anything he considered dangerous,
he would have failed me unless it could be corrected. As usual when
dealing with government, the person you are dealing with is more important
then the details of the regulations.
I am now confined to 10 Nm's around Smoketown, PA for 5 hours.
Also, regrading a point raised on a few earlier posts: My plane's builder
is officially listed as "Kolb". The instructions which came with the
original registration stated that (as you would expect) the builder would
normally be the applicant. However, as the FAA understood you may not know
the original builder of a plane being converted to E-LSA, you are allowed to
enter the kit manufacturer.
Chuck Davis
Malvern, PA
Firelfy N7057K
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Anodizing Aluminum |
Steve:
Do not know about home anodizing. However, have used the alodine
process quite a bit. It is easy, works well, and lasts a long time. A
gallon is cheap and will last me a life time.
john h
mkIII
Has anyone played around with anodizing their own aluminum parts?
I have been doing research on type II home anodize.
Steve
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| From: | "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
| Subject: | Re: Anodizing Aluminum |
What do the results look like? I know what anodizing looks like, what
does alodine look like? How does it compare?
Richard PIke
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
----- Original Message -----
From: John Hauck
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Anodizing Aluminum
Steve:
Do not know about home anodizing. However, have used the alodine
process quite a bit. It is easy, works well, and lasts a long time. A
gallon is cheap and will last me a life time.
john h
mkIII
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Anodizing Aluminum |
Hi Richard:
I'll see if I can find a photo of some of my alodined stuff. I did the
3/8" aluminum angle engine mounts with gold alodine. Also the rudder
trim tab. I also use clear. I think there are other colors available.
To process, I use a phosphoric acid bath, clear water rinse, followed by
a few seconds in the alodine. Does not take long. Too long and the
aluminum will really get dark, using the gold. Clear should not pose a
problem. No need to dry after rinsing phosphoric acid off.
Results are good. For engine mounts, it protects the aluminum and
unlike primer and paint, do not have to worry about the fasteners
loosening up because engine vibration eats into the paint.
john h
mkIII
What do the results look like? I know what anodizing looks like, what
does alodine look like? How does it compare?
Richard PIke
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| From: | "Steven Green" <Kolbdriver(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Re: buzzing vibration |
I had a buzzing sound in my MK3 that was coming from a piece of lexan on the
center section overhead. It too was intermittent.
Steven
>
> I went out for a sundown ride last night. Calm on the ground, enough
> breeze at pattern altitude for a good crosswind crab, but still smooth.
> Being too lazy lately to replace a lost pitot cover, the bugs plugged
> that thing. So all my performance numbers were nonexistent.
> (although zero mph climb speeds are pretty impressive)
> Question is this: in bumpy air I get an intermittent buzzing effect.
> Maybe a vibration, maybe only a sound effect. Generally only
> when running full cruise above 4700 rpm. It isn't the ailerons because I
> KNOW what they do from experience (still got to
> move those balancers from the shelf to the wings)
> My thinking is that it has something to do with the relationship between
> my prop and bump-induced yaw. The sideways
> moving prop biting the air unevenly. 3 blade powerfin. Anyone else
> experience a similar effect?
> BB
> MkIIIc, suzuki
>
>
>
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| From: | "jdmol2002" <jdmol2002(at)yahoo.com> |
Why on earth would you register a firefly, keep it as an ultralight. Why pay more
money to fly your plane. That makes no sence.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=133332#133332
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| From: | "Terry Swartz" <terry(at)juliaswartz.com> |
Who was your inspector? Do you have contact information?
On 9/7/07, Charles Davis wrote:
>
> I now own an airplane! This morning I received my airworthiness
> certificate for my Firefly, N7057K, serial # "CD-1".
>
> The inspector certainly looked over the paperwork, but seemed more
> interested in helping me get it filled out to a acceptable level, not on
> gigging me for mistakes. He did spend about 30 minutes inspecting the
> airplane, and made a few suggestions. While he was not overly picky, I got
> the definite impression that had he found anything he considered dangerous,
> he would have failed me unless it could be corrected. As usual when
> dealing with government, the person you are dealing with is more important
> then the details of the regulations.
>
> I am now confined to 10 Nm's around Smoketown, PA for 5 hours.
>
> Also, regrading a point raised on a few earlier posts: My plane's builder
> is officially listed as "Kolb". The instructions which came with the
> original registration stated that (as you would expect) the builder would
> normally be the applicant. However, as the FAA understood you may not know
> the original builder of a plane being converted to E-LSA, you are allowed to
> enter the kit manufacturer.
>
> Chuck Davis
> Malvern, PA
> Firelfy N7057K
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
--
Terry
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| From: | "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart(at)onlyinternet.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Anodizing Aluminum |
>
................
How does it compare?
>
Richard,
See:
http://www.matronics.com/rv-list/hovan/tips/AlAnDef.html
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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| From: | Lanny Fetterman <donaho(at)uplink.net> |
| Subject: | Firefly ultralight? (ELSA) |
Hi all, Before sport pilot and 9-11, when the skies were more friendly to
unregistered fat ultralights. I was trying to decide if I should build
a Firefly to stay in the ultralight world legally, or a Firestar II and
fly fat. The day I decided to build a Firestar II was the day I talked to
Dennis and asked how difficult it was to build a Firefly that weighed less
than 254 lbs.
Dennis told me if I made any changes to the Firefly like larger wheels,
wheel pants or put too much paint on it when I painted it, the Firefly
would go over the 254 pound limit. I felt if I was going to fly a fat
Firefly at 255 lbs. I may as well fly an obese Firestar II at 350 lbs. as
the FAA would classify both as illegal unregistered aircraft if they were
rolled up on the scales.
It was asked why someone would register a Firefly ELSA, perhaps the paint
was applied too thick and the owner knows if the FAA puts it on the scales
it will weigh 255 lbs or more. Based on what I was told by Dennis, I wonder
how many Firefly ultralights can really make the 254 lbs. Lanny
Fetterman FSII
.
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| Subject: | Re: ELT Installation |
| From: | "ropermike" <ropermike2002(at)yahoo.com> |
Thanks Dennis......I got a nice surprise yesterday when my ELT arrived from aircraft
spruce. The remote switch was included! I dont know why, but I was afraid
it didnt come with the elt and I would need to make another order. Thanks again,
Mike
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The next best thing to playing and winning is playing and losing!...Mike Hillger
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| Subject: | Engine Choice King Kolbra or Mklllxtra. |
| From: | "David Lucas" <d_a_lucas(at)hotmail.com> |
Hi Kolbers,
Probably in the category of 'day-dreaming' here, but;
Do you think this engine could be adapted to either the King Kolbra or the Mklllxtra.
Power wise it would be OK (80 or 100HP versions), but I'm thinking of the
mounting details. Interference with or changes to the frame, wing mount points,
aileron control, etc. Specs, drawings and details are here I'd appreciate
some feedback from you 'been there, done that, got the T shirt' people.
Thanks, David.
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=133419#133419
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| Subject: | Re: Engine Choice King Kolbra or Mklllxtra. |
| From: | "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot1(at)tx.rr.com> |
David,
A couple of things to think about:
-very large frontal area.
-higher than wanted thrust centerline unless the Kolb fuselage has major mods done.
-for use with unleaded fuel only.
-minimum 95 octane fuel, the highest I can get here is 93 octane.
-the weight at 126 lbs is good but does not include the muffler and might not include
the radiators.
I am a slow learner, but I wouldn't try to be the first again.
John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, Warp Drive Prop, 1473 hours
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John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolbra, 912ULS
http://home.tx.rr.com/kolbrapilot
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| From: | "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Engine Choice King Kolbra or Mklllxtra. |
Dave
What engine are you talking about?
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Lucas" <d_a_lucas(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 1:28 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Engine Choice King Kolbra or Mklllxtra.
>
> Hi Kolbers,
> Probably in the category of 'day-dreaming' here, but;
> Do you think this engine could be adapted to either the King Kolbra or the
> Mklllxtra. Power wise it would be OK (80 or 100HP versions), but I'm
> thinking of the mounting details. Interference with or changes to the
> frame, wing mount points, aileron control, etc. Specs, drawings and
> details are here I'd appreciate some feedback from you 'been there,
> done that, got the T shirt' people.
> Thanks, David.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=133419#133419
>
>
>
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | New Realtime Spell Checker Added To Matronics Forums! |
Dear Listers,
Today 9/8/2007 I have added a new real-time spell checker function to all of the
BBS Forums at Matronics. When you reply or create a new message on the Forums,
you will notice that misspelled words will be high-lighted in yellow. If
you left-click on the word, you will be prompted with a drop-down list of suggested
spellings.
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Enjoy!
Matt Dralle
Matornics Email List and Forum Administrator
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| From: | "Charles Davis" <ceddavis(at)gmail.com> |
That's a valid question. The reasons are several, starting with the fact
that while close, my Firefly is not (was not!) a legit 103 vehicle. It was
30 lbs overweight, and I did not want to give up the larger wheels, brakes,
VSI, etc. Should there ever be an issue, I am now in the clear. Also,
given that the serial number is my own "CD-1" rather then the Kolb frame
serial number, it can be converted back to an ultralight by pulling off the
data plate and N number. No data plate, no airplane!
For me, with a desire to move up the certification ladder, having my own
airplane is useful in that I can now log all the hours I'll fly anyway.
Except for the 3 hours night training, I'll do everything I need for my
Private in my Firefly, and a lot cheaper! That's the beauty of the way the
regs were written. We can each choose the options that suite us best.
The inspector was Eugene Breiner, 717 776 7608.
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: ELSA
From: "jdmol2002" <jdmol2002(at)yahoo.com>
Why on earth would you register a firefly, keep it as an ultralight. Why pay
more
money to fly your plane. That makes no sence.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=133332#133332
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| Subject: | Re: Did It Again. |
| From: | "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com> |
I have flown without a radio, lots of guys do. I really like having a radio for
traffic but it is not required, and if my radio is out for some reason, I still
fly.
As far as landing on a taxiway, that is a HUGE NO NO even for an ultralight. If
no one has said anything to you, consider yourself very lucky. There is no
exemption just because you are an ultralight, if an FAA guy or the wrong person
ever sees you take off or land on a taxiway, you will have major problems.
I cannot think of a better way to get very unwanted attention. We all stretch
the rules or even ignore them sometimes, but landing on a taxiway is not one
I would ever consider doing. That rates right up there with flying over the White
House, or buzzing the control tower [Wink]
Mike
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"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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| Subject: | Re: Engine Choice King Kolbra or Mklllxtra. |
| From: | "David Lucas" <d_a_lucas(at)hotmail.com> |
Thanks Bob, Don't know why the Matronics web forum method of posting does not
transfer the URL to the e-mail version. There probably is a method, but I don't
know it.
John, Thanks for the feedback. Guess I knew that fuselarge mods would have to be
done to keep the same thrust line, and if so I was hoping it wouldn't create
too big an issue with other items such as the rear wing mount point or aileron
control linkages etc. And, if embedded in the frame somewhat, then perhaps the
frontal area would not be such an issue.
Fuel availability is not a problem over here (Europe) 95 and 98 octane lead free
is the standard issue, but the running costs are a significant factor ! ! !
The cost of fuel now is around uro 1:50 per litre, which equals about US $ 5:68
per US gallon ! Multiply that by your fuel burn per hour and you'll see why
economy is such an important factor. This is why I was considering it in the first
place.
Other than that, it's such a nice neat engine, quiet and economical, FADEC, injected,
etc etc. Designed as a turbo from day one, not an add on = better volumetric
efficiency and so on.
Oh, well. Back to the drawing board I guess. Now lets see, R for Rotax or J for
Jabiru, Hmmm !
Regards to all.
David.
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| From: | Russ Kinne <russ(at)rkiphoto.com> |
Private used to require 20 hrs of dual with a CFI and 3 hrs of
Instrument time. No more?
Couldn't do that in a Firefly.
The more instruction you get, the safer a pilot you'll be. Don 't
work too hard to avoid it.
On Sep 8, 2007, at 8:21 PM, Charles Davis wrote:
> That's a valid question. The reasons are several, starting with
> the fact that while close, my Firefly is not (was not!) a legit 103
> vehicle. It was 30 lbs overweight, and I did not want to give up
> the larger wheels, brakes, VSI, etc. Should there ever be an
> issue, I am now in the clear. Also, given that the serial number
> is my own "CD-1" rather then the Kolb frame serial number, it can
> be converted back to an ultralight by pulling off the data plate
> and N number. No data plate, no airplane!
>
> For me, with a desire to move up the certification ladder, having
> my own airplane is useful in that I can now log all the hours I'll
> fly anyway. Except for the 3 hours night training, I'll do
> everything I need for my Private in my Firefly, and a lot cheaper!
> That's the beauty of the way the regs were written. We can each
> choose the options that suite us best.
>
> The inspector was Eugene Breiner, 717 776 7608.
>
>
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: ELSA
> From: "jdmol2002" <jdmol2002(at)yahoo.com >
>
>
> Why on earth would you register a firefly, keep it as an
> ultralight. Why pay more
> money to fly your plane. That makes no sence.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=133332#133332
>
>
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: STOL Vidio - Warning - Non Kolb Related - Not attached |
a link only.
Hi Mike:
Yes, I have, and it is quite impressive. Don't know how much wind was
blowing during the competition, but it is usually windy in Valdez.
Ironicly, I recently posted photos of Miss P'fer flying into Valdez.
For those Kolbers who think their stock aluminum gear is not built to
handle Kolb landings, notice........ even these guys do not stop flying
until a few inches off the ground. If you stall a couple feet off the
ground, something is going to bend on just about any airplane, Kolb or
not.
Learn to land the airplane before you redesign Homer Kolb's landing
gear. ;-) I never learned to land correctly, all the time, so I had to
come up with much stronger gear. hehehe
john h
Since our birds are STOL, (Well I sort of make it Kolb Related).
A STOL competition in Alaska I wonder if John H has seen this event.
Mike
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| From: | "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Engine Choice King Kolbra or Mklllxtra. |
David
I didn't know URLs don't transfer that's why I asked.
The new optional VW mount is too wide for the Kolbra so that doesn't help.
With that horsepower level it is imperative to get the thrust line down as
low as possible. The cage would need some custom changes to work. As John
indicated being the first makes it much more difficult. You should have a
very significant improvement in mind to consider this option. I suspect that
engine costs would not be one of them. If fuel cost is the prime
consideration why not the Smart Car Turbo Diesel engine? I saw one flown at
Sun N Fun two years ago that had a gear redrive. It looked like a nice
package.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Lucas" <d_a_lucas(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 6:49 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Engine Choice King Kolbra or Mklllxtra.
>
> Thanks Bob, Don't know why the Matronics web forum method of posting does
> not transfer the URL to the e-mail version. There probably is a method,
> but I don't know it.
>
> John, Thanks for the feedback. Guess I knew that fuselarge mods would have
> to be done to keep the same thrust line, and if so I was hoping it
> wouldn't create too big an issue with other items such as the rear wing
> mount point or aileron control linkages etc. And, if embedded in the frame
> somewhat, then perhaps the frontal area would not be such an issue.
>
> Fuel availability is not a problem over here (Europe) 95 and 98 octane
> lead free is the standard issue, but the running costs are a significant
> factor ! ! ! The cost of fuel now is around ,uro 1:50 per litre, which
> equals about US $ 5:68 per US gallon ! Multiply that by your fuel burn per
> hour and you'll see why economy is such an important factor. This is why I
> was considering it in the first place.
>
> Other than that, it's such a nice neat engine, quiet and economical,
> FADEC, injected, etc etc. Designed as a turbo from day one, not an add on
> = better volumetric efficiency and so on.
>
> Oh, well. Back to the drawing board I guess. Now lets see, R for Rotax or
> J for Jabiru, Hmmm !
>
> Regards to all.
>
> David.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=133562#133562
>
>
>
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| From: | "flykolb" <flykolb(at)wowway.com> |
| Subject: | Taxiway landings |
"As far as landing on a taxiway, that is a HUGE NO NO
I seem to remember that Lakeland used the taxiway as the main landing
strip during SnF. Is my memory wrong?"
You memory is good. I remember being told by the control tower at one
airport to land my Cessna on the taxiway. I don't remember why :-(.
Jim
Kolb Mark 3
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| From: | possums <possums(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Have ya'll got this one yet? |
From: "Carlos De Bortoli" <cdebortoli(at)arnet.com.ar>
Subject: Your Photos at http://www.matronics.com
Dear Sir; We are two enthusiasts of Mark III airplane and want to build
one;
We have written to Kolb Aircraft but without response
We need to know if it is possible to buy you a construction plans (
digital or paper );
the think is build from cero, and only buy the materials; our problem is the
customs
for import an airplane.-
If it is possible please send me the prices of the construction plans and
the materials; we have a new Rotax 582 for install.-
If you know some person interested in selling the construction plans,
please send him this contact.-
Thanks in advance
Carlos De Bortoli
Aeronautical Engineering
Argentina
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| From: | Charlie England <ceengland(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Taxiway landings |
flykolb wrote:
> "As far as landing on a taxiway, that is a HUGE NO NO
>
> I seem to remember that Lakeland used the taxiway as the main landing
> strip during SnF. Is my memory wrong?"
>
> You memory is good. I remember being told by the control tower at one
> airport to land my *Cessna* on the taxiway. I don't remember why :-(.
>
> Jim
> Kolb Mark 3
During SNF, the taxiway is designated as an official runway. IIRC, the
main & taxiway 'runways' are actually marked with an L or R, as
appropriate. As far as the FAA is concerned, during SNF (OSH does the
same thing) the taxiway is no longer a taxiway; it's a runway. No one
actually taxis on the 'narrow runway' during SNF.
I would think that the thing to remember is the 'why'. If the taxiway
isn't designated as a landing zone, other pilots will not be expecting a
plane to arrive on it from the sky & might taxi into your path.
I have a neighbor whose flown a SuperCub in some pretty windy
conditions. He once had to depart a controlled field in wind so strong
that he was literally taxi-ing in overlapping circles to get to the
actual runway. He asked the tower for permission to depart from an
intersecting taxiway instead of the runway. The tower's answer was that
they couldn't authorize it, but he could exercise his authority as pilot
in command to take whatever action was necessary for safe flight at that
time. He departed using the taxiway. Note that there was no other
traffic at the time. It's very unlikely that the tower would have given
him that leeway if there had been heavy traffic around the field at that
time.
Charlie
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| From: | "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
| Subject: | Re: Taxiway landings |
Exactly right. Years ago, Albany, GA had a closed runway 9-27 that was
fairly grown up with grass, and had been closed for years. The Rockwell
factory on the field made Thrush cropdusters, and the test pilots all had
the callsign of "Toughbird," which was what Rockwell was using as a promo
for their airplanes at that time. Well, Toughbird 6 was coming back from an
evaluation of a new Thrush Commander, and the wind was something like
270@35. The normal runways were 22 or 34, so either one would have been a
huge crosswind component. I gave him the wind, and he came right back with
"Toughbird 6 requests to land on closed runway 27 as traffic permits, I
realize you can't give me a landing clearance, I understand that landing
will be at my own risk."
Obviously he had read the manual, FAA 7110.65, paragraph 3-3-2 which said -
If an aircraft requests to takeoff, land, or touch-and-go on a closed or
unsafe runway, inform the pilot the runway is closed or unsafe, and
a. If the pilot persists in his/her request, quote him/her the appropriate
parts of the NOTAM applying to the runway and inform him/her that a
clearance cannot be issued.
b. Then, if the pilot insists and in your opinion the intended operation
would not adversely affect other traffic, inform him/her that the operation
will be at his/her own risk.
PHRASEOLOGY- RUNWAY (runway number) CLOSED/UNSAFE.
If appropriate, (quote NOTAM information),
UNABLE TO ISSUE DEPARTURE/LANDING/TOUCH- AND-GO CLEARANCE.
DEPARTURE/LANDING/TOUCH-AND-GO WILL BE AT YOUR OWN RISK.
My reply? "Toughbird 6, no traffic, proceed as requested, contact ground
121.7 after completing your landing roll."
And that's how it's done. Easy as pie.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charlie England" <ceengland(at)bellsouth.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 4:52 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Taxiway landings
> I have a neighbor whose flown a SuperCub in some pretty windy conditions.
> He once had to depart a controlled field in wind so strong that he was
> literally taxi-ing in overlapping circles to get to the actual runway. He
> asked the tower for permission to depart from an intersecting taxiway
> instead of the runway. The tower's answer was that they couldn't authorize
> it, but he could exercise his authority as pilot in command to take
> whatever action was necessary for safe flight at that time. He departed
> using the taxiway. Note that there was no other traffic at the time. It's
> very unlikely that the tower would have given him that leeway if there had
> been heavy traffic around the field at that time.
>
> Charlie
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Taxiway landings |
| From: | "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com> |
Special events are just that, special events. Sometimes taxiways become runways,
and sometimes runways become parking ramps for airplanes, so what ?? To think
that this transfers to normal operations, and makes it " OK " to land on the
taxiway once in a while is just insane.
Im sure it is very possible that some small uncontrolled airport somewhere may
like, or be setup for the ultralights to land on the taxiway. But again, for
some ultralight guy to think that this makes it ok to go to other airports and
land on taxiways is wrong. Keep on landing on them taxiways, and let us know
what happens when you get caught.
Mike
--------
"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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| Subject: | Re: Taxiway landings |
| From: | "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com> |
Special events are just that, special events. Sometimes taxiways become runways,
and sometimes runways become parking ramps for airplanes, so what ?? To think
that this transfers to normal operations, and makes it " OK " to land on the
taxiway once in a while is just insane.
Im sure it is very possible that some small uncontrolled airport somewhere may
like, or be setup for the ultralights to land on the taxiway. But again, for
some ultralight guy to think that this makes it ok to go to other airports and
land on taxiways is wrong. Keep on landing on them taxiways, and let us know
what happens when you get caught.
Mike
--------
"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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| Subject: | Re: Taxiway landings |
In a message dated 9/9/2007 11:49:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
orcabonita(at)hotmail.com writes:
Special events are just that, special events. Sometimes taxiways become
runways, and sometimes runways become parking ramps for airplanes, so what ??
Mike, I believe that was my point.
Steve
Firefly 007/Floats
do not archive
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| From: | Flycrazy8(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Taxiway landings |
The cropdusters aircraft at my FAA airport have always used the taxi ways to
land on .. One company always lands from the North taxiway and the other
company's planes always lands from the South.... No control tower or radio ...
Just good vision :-))
Stephen
Firefly
Georgia
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| From: | "Charles Davis" <ceddavis(at)gmail.com> |
Russ - Actually, I have > 20 hours duel already, having taken my practical
in an Evecktor Sportstar and tail wheel endorsement in a 7AC champ. Have
not nor intend to avoid training. In fact I plan on continuing training to
get my towered airspace endorsement, which I need to do for my private. I
could have received both the SP and Tail wheel endorsement quicker had I
wanted to avoid training. My tail wheel training was in unusual
conditions: we had a period of strong cross winds rather then the normal
"down the runway". Trust me, I have no issues landing the champ in any
conditions I'd even consider flying in. I could have waited for better
conditions and done it in 4 hours.
Also, I may have missed it in the regs, but I'm fairly certain they dropped
the instrument requirement a long time ago, although I'm sure some one on
the list knows for sure. In fact, I'll likely continue on and get some
instrument training. For that matter, a local airport (Van Sant, 9N1) offer
acrobatic training, which I'd also love to take. Not to do it in a FireFly,
but to be a better pilot. Not to mention, it would be a blast...it's in a
Stearman. They also offer training, including acrobatic, in sailplanes.
We'll never run out of new things to train on.
Chuck
From: Russ Kinne <russ(at)rkiphoto.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: ELSA
Private used to require 20 hrs of dual with a CFI and 3 hrs of
Instrument time. No more?
Couldn't do that in a Firefly.
The more instruction you get, the safer a pilot you'll be. Don 't
work too hard to avoid it.
On Sep 8, 2007, at 8:21 PM, Charles Davis wrote:
> That's a valid question. The reasons are several, starting with
> the fact that while close, my Firefly is not (was not!) a legit 103
> vehicle. It was 30 lbs overweight, and I did not want to give up
> the larger wheels, brakes, VSI, etc. Should there ever be an
> issue, I am now in the clear. Also, given that the serial number
> is my own "CD-1" rather then the Kolb frame serial number, it can
> be converted back to an ultralight by pulling off the data plate
> and N number. No data plate, no airplane!
>
> For me, with a desire to move up the certification ladder, having
> my own airplane is useful in that I can now log all the hours I'll
> fly anyway. Except for the 3 hours night training, I'll do
> everything I need for my Private in my Firefly, and a lot cheaper!
> That's the beauty of the way the regs were written. We can each
> choose the options that suite us best.
>
> The inspector was Eugene Breiner, 717 776 7608.
>
>
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| From: | "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com> |
Chuck, if you're leading up to a private pilot ticket, per FAR 61.109
(a) For an airplane single-engine rating. Except as provided in paragraph
(k) of this section, a person who applies for a private pilot certificate
with an airplane category and single-engine class rating must log at least
40 hours of flight time that includes at least 20 hours of flight training
from an authorized instructor and 10 hours of solo flight training in the
areas of operation listed in =A761.107(b)(1) of this part, and the training
must include at least=97
(3) 3 hours of flight training in a single-engine airplane on the control
and maneuvering of an airplane solely by reference to instruments, includin
g
straight and level flight, constant airspeed climbs and descents, turns to
a
heading, recovery from unusual flight attitudes, radio communications, and
the use of navigation systems/facilities and radar services appropriate to
instrument flight
Rick
On 9/10/07, Charles Davis wrote:
>
> Russ - Actually, I have > 20 hours duel already, having taken my practica
l
> in an Evecktor Sportstar and tail wheel endorsement in a 7AC champ. Have
> not nor intend to avoid training. In fact I plan on continuing training
to
> get my towered airspace endorsement, which I need to do for my private.
I
> could have received both the SP and Tail wheel endorsement quicker had I
> wanted to avoid training. My tail wheel training was in unusual
> conditions: we had a period of strong cross winds rather then the normal
> "down the runway". Trust me, I have no issues landing the champ in any
> conditions I'd even consider flying in. I could have waited for better
> conditions and done it in 4 hours.
>
> Also, I may have missed it in the regs, but I'm fairly certain they
> dropped the instrument requirement a long time ago, although I'm sure som
e
> one on the list knows for sure. In fact, I'll likely continue on and get
> some instrument training. For that matter, a local airport (Van Sant, 9N
1)
> offer acrobatic training, which I'd also love to take. Not to do it in a
> FireFly, but to be a better pilot. Not to mention, it would be a
> blast...it's in a Stearman. They also offer training, including acrobati
c,
> in sailplanes. We'll never run out of new things to train on.
>
> Chuck
>
>
> From: Russ Kinne <russ(at)rkiphoto.com>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: ELSA
>
> Private used to require 20 hrs of dual with a CFI and 3 hrs of
> Instrument time. No more?
> Couldn't do that in a Firefly.
> The more instruction you get, the safer a pilot you'll be. Don 't
> work too hard to avoid it.
>
> On Sep 8, 2007, at 8:21 PM, Charles Davis wrote:
>
> > That's a valid question. The reasons are several, starting with
> > the fact that while close, my Firefly is not (was not!) a legit 103
> > vehicle. It was 30 lbs overweight, and I did not want to give up
> > the larger wheels, brakes, VSI, etc. Should there ever be an
> > issue, I am now in the clear. Also, given that the serial number
> > is my own "CD-1" rather then the Kolb frame serial number, it can
> > be converted back to an ultralight by pulling off the data plate
> > and N number. No data plate, no airplane!
> >
> > For me, with a desire to move up the certification ladder, having
> > my own airplane is useful in that I can now log all the hours I'll
> > fly anyway. Except for the 3 hours night training, I'll do
> > everything I need for my Private in my Firefly, and a lot cheaper!
> > That's the beauty of the way the regs were written. We can each
> > choose the options that suite us best.
> >
> > The inspector was Eugene Breiner, 717 776 7608.
> >
> >
>
> *
>
===========
===========
===========
>
> *
>
>
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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| From: | "Jim Kmet" <jlsk1(at)frontiernet.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Taxiway landings |
Dang it all, now I`m worried about taxiing on a runway!!! Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: flykolb
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 1:04 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Taxiway landings
"As far as landing on a taxiway, that is a HUGE NO NO
I seem to remember that Lakeland used the taxiway as the main landing
strip during SnF. Is my memory wrong?"
You memory is good. I remember being told by the control tower at one
airport to land my Cessna on the taxiway. I don't remember why :-(.
Jim
Kolb Mark 3
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| From: | "Ralph B" <ul15rhb(at)juno.com> |
jdmol2002 wrote:
> Why on earth would you register a firefly, keep it as an ultralight. Why pay
more money to fly your plane. That makes no sence.
Mine is very much like a Firefly (an Original Firestar) at 319 lbs. It's even pictured
as a Firefly in the September issue of LIGHT SPORT AND ULTRALIGHT FLYING
magazine (the one with an orange nose on skis). Why did I register it? For
the same reasons Beauford mentioned along with the privilege of carrying extra
fuel in 2 tanks behind the seat with the 5-gallon main tank that I still have.
Here are a couple recent pics of the Firestar. It's in good shape after 20 years
of flying it.
Ralph B
--------
Ralph B
Original Firestar
N91493 E-AB
20 years flying it
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| From: | "Ed Chmielewski" <edchmiel(at)mindspring.com> |
Chuck,
The instrument training requirement is still there, has never
been removed (thankfully).
FAR 61.109(a)(3)
Ed in JXN
MkII/503
----- Original Message -----
From: Charles Davis
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 8:34 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: ELSA
(Snip)
Also, I may have missed it in the regs, but I'm fairly certain they
dropped the instrument requirement a long time ago, although I'm sure
some one on the list knows for sure. (Snip)
Chuck
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| Subject: | Re: video attempt |
| From: | "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com> |
Nice video, you should do some in cruise and landing also ! I like the highway
right after takeoff, would make a great long runway if the engine quits on
takeoff.
Mike
--------
"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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| From: | David Key <dhkey(at)msn.com> |
Who plans on flying in? When are you going to get there?
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| Subject: | Re: STOL Vidio - Warning - Non Kolb Related - Not attached |
a link ...
In a message dated 9/9/2007 11:32:06 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
kolbdriver(at)mlsharp.com writes:
_http://www.barnstormers.com/eFLYER/2007/070900-005-eFLYER.html_
(http://www.barnstormers.com/eFLYER/2007/070900-005-eFLYER.html)
My apologies to the purists=99 among us however the video toward the
middle of
the Barnstormers=99 newsletter was interesting. Since our birds are
STOL,
(Well I sort of make it Kolb Related).
A STOL competition in Alaska I wonder if John H has seen this event.
Mike
Oak Grove Missouri
Mark III Classic (one of the last of Old Kolb) - 0hrs
Suzuki G13B 1.3L - 0hrs
Started with Big Lar still behind...
Do not archive
Good Lord God amity...................that is utterly
unbelievable..........and ......... WONDERFUL!!!
Shades of Storch!!......mebe even BETTER than Storch!!
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| From: | "Jim Kmet" <jlsk1(at)frontiernet.net> |
| Subject: | Re: TNK HOMECOMMING |
Jim Kmet, Saturday, arriving early am, departing late PM, MK-3C
----- Original Message -----
From: David Key
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:51 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: TNK HOMECOMMING
Who plans on flying in? When are you going to get there?
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| Subject: | Urgent Kolb Firestar II Empty weights w/ options? |
| From: | "grantr" <grant_richardson25(at)yahoo.com> |
I have some questions that I need answered ASAP. I have plans to buy a Kolb Firestar
II this Saturday. When I talked to the guy I was under the impression that
this plane would carry two normal sized adults. Now I am concerned that this
plane might not work. This is a 2000 year kit finished in 2004 with a rotax
503 electric start, Ivo 3 blade prop, hotbox, BRS, strobes and Battery.
Kolbs website says max gross weight is 725# I talked to Travis at Kolb and he
said its now 760# . The designer of the plane in Canada did not know the weight
was raised.
I want to convert the plane to 2 seat by installing the sling seat however I believe
its going to be over gross weight with 2 normal sized people. Kolb did not
recommend going over gross weight.
Max weight of 2 pilots would not exceed 340#
The guy told me the plane with him in it full of fuel(10gallons) weights 630 to
640#. I cant remember exactly but it was over 600. He said he weight 150# and
10 gallons of fuel should be about 60#.
When I asked him he said the weight might have been off on the scales?
Will you guys give me the empty weight of your Kolb FirestarIIs along with what
options you have on the plane?
What do you guys thing should I go with two seats on this one or get a Mark III?
Travis at Kolb told me their FirestarII Weighs 325# empty but it does not have
a BRS, electric start, a Battery or much of anything.
Thanks,
Grant
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| Subject: | Re: Urgent Kolb Firestar II Empty weights w/ options? |
| From: | "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
Grant,
I think most Firestar IIs are heavier than the 360# empty weight that your situation
would require. (760-60-340=360) The empty weight on the Firestar II you
are thinking of buying must be shown on the weight and balance paperwork if the
airplane is registered and has an airworthiness certificate. Unless you weigh
it yourself, you won't be certain that its current weight is what is on the
paperwork, since mods or additional equipment may have been added since it was
registered.
For what it is worth, my Firestar I weighs 362 lb. empty with BRS, ten gallon tank,
and hydraulic brakes, according to the W&B paperwork done by the builder.
Its alleged weight is heaver than most early single seat Firestars for reasons
unknown to me. I won't know its actual weight until after I finish the repairs
needed from the recent accident, and weigh it myself.
--------
Thom in Buffalo
N221FA Allegro 2000 912UL
N197BG FS1/447
--------------------
"Setting an example is not the main means of influencing another, it is the
only means."
Albert Einstein
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| From: | Larry Bourne <biglar(at)gogittum.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Urgent Kolb Firestar II Empty weights w/ options? |
grantr wrote:
>
> I have some questions that I need answered ASAP. I have plans to buy a Kolb Firestar
II this Saturday. When I talked to the guy I was under the impression
that this plane would carry two normal sized adults. Now I am concerned that
this plane might not work. This is a 2000 year kit finished in 2004 with a rotax
503 electric start, Ivo 3 blade prop, hotbox, BRS, strobes and Battery.
>
> Kolbs website says max gross weight is 725# I talked to Travis at Kolb and he
said its now 760# . The designer of the plane in Canada did not know the weight
was raised.
>
> I want to convert the plane to 2 seat by installing the sling seat however I
believe its going to be over gross weight with 2 normal sized people. Kolb did
not recommend going over gross weight.
>
> Max weight of 2 pilots would not exceed 340#
>
> The guy told me the plane with him in it full of fuel(10gallons) weights 630
to 640#. I cant remember exactly but it was over 600. He said he weight 150# and
10 gallons of fuel should be about 60#.
> When I asked him he said the weight might have been off on the scales?
>
>
> Will you guys give me the empty weight of your Kolb FirestarIIs along with what
options you have on the plane?
>
>
> What do you guys thing should I go with two seats on this one or get a Mark III?
>
> Travis at Kolb told me their FirestarII Weighs 325# empty but it does not have
a BRS, electric start, a Battery or much of anything.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Grant
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=134141#134141
>
>
>
In a FS II, the back seat passenger is going to be very cramped. I've
flown in the back seat of 2, with 2 different sized pilots........the
flying part was fun, the seating was misery. I'd do it again, but if
there's any options I'd look them over. Lar.
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| Subject: | Re: Urgent Kolb Firestar II Empty weights w/ options? |
| From: | "lucien" <lstavenhagen(at)hotmail.com> |
Mine, according to the data plate, is 440 lbs empty. According to the weight and
balance, I could carry around 60 to 70lbs in the back seat before hitting gross
wt (750lbs).
Mine has no options other than the C box and RK-400 clutch, which add about 10lbs
over what just a B box would be. The builder had to add some ballast to the
front to get the W&B to come out right (I beleve it was 10lbs, but how much isn't
specified in the logbooks).
I think the most the plane could lose if I went to a B box and removed the ballast
is about 20 to 25lbs...
So it's still a pretty heavy plane if the typical empty weight is 325 or thereabouts.
Doesn't fly like it's heavy though.....
LS
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LS
FS II
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| Subject: | Re: Urgent Kolb Firestar II Empty weights w/ options? |
| From: | "grantr" <grant_richardson25(at)yahoo.com> |
Wow this is not sounding good for flying 2.
This one has mechanical brakes also.
Lucien,
Your plane is 440# with no BRS or other options? Wow So this one must be heavier.
Any idea what a BRS weights. I think its around 28#
Keep those weights and options coming!
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| Subject: | Re: Urgent Kolb Firestar II Empty weights w/ options? |
| From: | "lucien" <lstavenhagen(at)hotmail.com> |
grantr wrote:
> Wow this is not sounding good for flying 2.
>
> This one has mechanical brakes also.
>
> Lucien,
>
> Your plane is 440# with no BRS or other options? Wow So this one must be heavier.
>
> Any idea what a BRS weights. I think its around 28#
>
> Keep those weights and options coming!
That's with the VLS BRS that the plane was originally certificated with. I currently
have the BRS off the plane - it's out of date and frankly I'm more worried
about dying due to accidental firing of the chute than any failure of that
Kolb airframe - but according to the label on the chute the all up weight of it
is 17 lbs.
IMO, the FS II is pretty much a single-place plane. A couple friends of mine in
TX had one and flew it dual on a regular basis, but I don't know what their plane
weighed.
The original builder told me he couldn't see how you could build the plane any
lighter than that. Mine really is bare bones and he did the Stitts process on
the fabric absolutely to the letter (came out beautiful too, still looks like
a brand new paint job 10 years later), but the plane was still more than 400lbs
before he added the ballast.
But even with full 10gals of gas, my 195lbs and 9000' density altitude, it gets
off the ground and climbs out about 300 fpm or so. So it doesn't _fly_ overweight
by any means (solo anyway).....
LS
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LS
FS II
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| Subject: | Re: Urgent Kolb Firestar II Empty weights w/ options? |
| From: | "The BaronVonEvil" <grageda(at)innw.net> |
Hi Grant,
I have a Firestar II and it weighs in at 333lbs. It has a 447, two 5 gallon tanks,
mechanical brakes and a manual (recoil) starter.
My Firestar II is a basic version so that may be why the weight is what it is.
I just did the weight and balance for the ELSA application so the numbers are
accurate.
The Second Seat is really small and would not be very comfortable for any length
of time.
I would recommend you consider a Mk III or a Kolbra for a more realistic two place
Kolb.
Carlos Grageda
AKA BaronVonEvil
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=134203#134203
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| From: | "Denny Rowe" <rowedenny(at)windstream.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Urgent Kolb Firestar II Empty weights w/ options? |
Grant,
I built a Mk-3 classic with hydraulic brakes, 17" tall tires, full
enclosure, 690L-70 engine, (similar in weight to a 582Rotax), silver coat
under the polytone paint and its empty weight is 475lbs.
I listed the gross weight as 1000lbs but could have listed it as high as
1200lbs as some builders do.
I weigh 185 pounds and have flown passengers up to 250 pounds with no
trouble at all.
I have also set in the back seat of a Firestar 2 and it is super tight for
my 6' frame.
The Firestar is a GREAT aircraft but the jump seat is more suitable for
small folks and extra baggage than for full size adults.
If you want a true two seat Kolb you want one of the Mk-3 models or a
Kolbra.
Denny Rowe.
Western PA, Mk-3 N616DR
----- Original Message -----
From: "grantr" <grant_richardson25(at)yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 8:36 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Urgent Kolb Firestar II Empty weights w/ options?
>
> Wow this is not sounding good for flying 2.
>
> This one has mechanical brakes also.
>
> Lucien,
>
> Your plane is 440# with no BRS or other options? Wow So this one must be
> heavier.
>
> Any idea what a BRS weights. I think its around 28#
>
> Keep those weights and options coming!
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=134172#134172
>
>
> --
> 9/12/2007 5:22 PM
>
>
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| From: | "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Urgent Kolb Firestar II Empty weights w/ options? |
Grant
If you think the FirestarII is really a two place airplane your only kidding
your self. It is a wonderful airplane for one person and a child. It CAN be
used in a pinch for two adults if they are light enough, if the empty weight
is low enough, and the air is smooth but not on a regular basis. I you need
a two passenger airplane then get one.
Most airplanes are marginal with every seat full, GA airplanes are even
worse. I own a MKIIIC which is a two place airplane. Since I'm 205 Lbs I
have to be careful with my passenger weight. Also just like their owners
airplanes tend to gain weight as the get older.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
----- Original Message -----
From: "grantr" <grant_richardson25(at)yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 11:05 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Urgent Kolb Firestar II Empty weights w/ options?
>
> I have some questions that I need answered ASAP. I have plans to buy a
> Kolb Firestar II this Saturday. When I talked to the guy I was under the
> impression that this plane would carry two normal sized adults. Now I am
> concerned that this plane might not work. This is a 2000 year kit finished
> in 2004 with a rotax 503 electric start, Ivo 3 blade prop, hotbox, BRS,
> strobes and Battery.
>
> Kolb?Ts website says max gross weight is 725# I talked to Travis at Kolb
> and he said its now 760# . The designer of the plane in Canada did not
> know the weight was raised.
>
> I want to convert the plane to 2 seat by installing the sling seat however
> I believe it?Ts going to be over gross weight with 2 normal sized people.
> Kolb did not recommend going over gross weight.
>
> Max weight of 2 pilots would not exceed 340#
>
> The guy told me the plane with him in it full of fuel(10gallons) weights
> 630 to 640#. I can?Tt remember exactly but it was over 600. He said he
> weight 150# and 10 gallons of fuel should be about 60#.
> When I asked him he said the weight might have been off on the scales?
>
>
> Will you guys give me the empty weight of your Kolb FirestarII?Ts along
> with what options you have on the plane?
>
>
> What do you guys thing should I go with two seats on this one or get a
> Mark III?
>
> Travis at Kolb told me their FirestarII Weighs 325# empty but it does not
> have a BRS, electric start, a Battery or much of anything.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Grant
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=134141#134141
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Urgent Kolb Firestar II Empty weights w/ options? |
| From: | "George Alexander" <gtalexander(at)att.net> |
rowedenny(at)windstream.n wrote:
>
>
>
> The Firestar is a GREAT aircraft but the jump seat is more suitable for
> small folks and extra baggage than for full size adults.
> If you want a true two seat Kolb you want one of the Mk-3 models or a
> Kolbra.
>
> Denny Rowe.
> Western PA, Mk-3 N616DR
> ---
Grant:
I would echo what Denny (and others) said (particularly that the "....Firestar
is a GREAT aircraft...")
Mine is 406 empty. 503 DCDI, C box, Powerfin 3 prop, BRS, EIS, ASI, compass, mech
brakes, NO starter, small battery for accessories.
The W&B dictated that with 10 gallons of fuel and a 170 # pilot, the max for the
rear seat was 112 #. (If I could get down to 170, I might be able to attract
a 112 # passenger. See image attached for the best I could do. :D )
If you are really interested in carrying a passenger, go for the legit 2 place
Kolb. MK III's or Kolbra.
My 2 cents worth.....
--------
George Alexander
http://gtalexander.home.att.net
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| Subject: | Re: Urgent Kolb Firestar II Empty weights w/ options? |
In a message dated 9/12/2007 11:06:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
grant_richardson25(at)yahoo.com writes:
What do you guys thing should I go with two seats on this one or get a Mark
III?
My FS II, which is kinda heavy at 470 wet, flew great with me in it at 270
lbs. Very good climb.
But have you tried getting two grownups in a FS II? Will be very uncomfortabl
e for the rear seater.
Get a MkIII. I would get the Xtra.
Howard Shackleford
FS II
SC
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| From: | "Arran Addington" <Arran.Addington(at)state.tn.us> |
| Subject: | Looking for a spray paint rig solution |
Hello Everyone,
Probably by the spring I should be ready to start spraying on the polybrush, polyspray,
and polytone, onto my MkIIIc. My question to the group is what kind of
spray rig should I buy? About the least expensive rig is the Campbell Hausfeld
HV2500 High Pressure, Low Volume unit at about $300, and it goes up steeply
from there. I don't have any experience painting beyond rattle can spray paint.
Besides painting the airplane, and the occasional hobby project, this is not
something I will be using on a regular basis, so I don't feel that I can justify
spending a ton of money on a commercial rig.
I want a decent quality finish, but am not interested in entering it into Airventure
for competition. I understand that this is a fairly subjective subject,
but I would like to see what the wisdom of the group is.
I appreciate your help.
Arran J. Addington
Transportation Planner
Office of Local Programs
Suite 600, James K. Polk Building
505 Deaderick Street
Nashville, TN 37243-0341
voice: 615-253-8526
fax: 615-741-9673
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| From: | APilot(at)webtv.net |
| Subject: | Re: Urgent Kolb Firestar II Empty weights w/ options? |
Ditto........exactly right. Mark III Classic owner
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| Subject: | Re: Urgent Kolb Firestar II Empty weights w/ options? |
| From: | "grantr" <grant_richardson25(at)yahoo.com> |
Thanks guys.
Now does anyone have a Mark III for sale?
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=134249#134249
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| Subject: | Looking to buy a Mark III or similar 2 place plane |
| From: | "grantr" <grant_richardson25(at)yahoo.com> |
Guys I am looking for a Kolb MarkIII or similar 2 seat dual control airplane with
folding wings. I have a 8.5W X 24L X 6.25T enclosed trailer to hanger it in.
I am in Georgia.
Thanks,
Grant
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=134250#134250
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| From: | "Jeremy Casey" <1planeguy(at)kilocharlie.us> |
| Subject: | Looking for a spray paint rig solution |
Hello Everyone,
Probably by the spring I should be ready to start spraying on the
polybrush, polyspray, and polytone, onto my MkIIIc. My question to the
group is what kind of spray rig should I buy? About the least expensive
rig is the Campbell Hausfeld HV2500 High Pressure, Low Volume unit at
about $300, and it goes up steeply from there. I don't have any
experience painting beyond rattle can spray paint. Besides painting the
airplane, and the occasional hobby project, this is not something I will
be using on a regular basis, so I don't feel that I can justify spending
a ton of money on a commercial rig.
I want a decent quality finish, but am not interested in entering it
into Airventure for competition. I understand that this is a fairly
subjective subject, but I would like to see what the wisdom of the group
is.
I appreciate your help.
Arran J. Addington
Transportation Planner
Office of Local Programs
Suite 600, James K. Polk Building
505 Deaderick Street
Nashville, TN 37243-0341
voice: 615-253-8526
fax: 615-741-9673
I'll throw my $.02 worth here...
Find someone who has experience as a sprayer...it is a skill like any
other that requires a little practice to get right. Most guys I know
that can do it have experience messing around with hot-rods or something
and in that experience came plenty of sanding it off and trying again.
That being said...it is a lot more work to sand down a bad spray job on
an airplane and the extra coats to try and get it right get heavy and
expensive. I don't consider an airplane project a good place to "learn"
how to spray.
Second point here...you can build the most perfect Kolb ever built,
accurate in every way down to the nearest thousandth then put the best
fabric job ever put on an airplane as well...if you put a crappy coat of
paint on it people will always give it a slant-eye kind of look , like
"You actually fly in that thing?". I know from whence I speak.
The money you would spend on the equipment and calling in a couple of
favors might get you a good looking paint job. Ask around the EAA
chapters or the local ultralight strips...
Also you will have to build a good place to spray if you want a good
finish...yes I know people who have sprayed outside or in make-shift
booths and get away with it, but IMHO it is the exception not the rule.
A good spray booth with proper lighting and ventilation makes all the
difference in the world.
THAT BEING SAID...if your willing to waste a little paint and time on
some practice pieces or maybe repaint the old clunker car for a practice
job you could learn a new skill...some people pick it up quick and paint
like DaVinci !!!
Jeremy
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| From: | David Key <dhkey(at)msn.com> |
| Subject: | Looking to buy a Mark III or similar 2 place plane |
I've seen some great deals on www.Barnstormers.com > Subject: Kolb-List: Lo
oking to buy a Mark III or similar 2 place plane> From: grant_richardson25@
yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 12:22:46 -0700> To: kolb-list(at)matronics.c
om>> > Guys I am looking for a Kolb MarkIII or similar 2 seat dual control
airplane with folding wings. I have a 8.5W X 24L X 6.25T enclosed trailer t
o hanger it in.> > I am in Georgia.> > Thanks,> Grant> > > > > Read this to
pic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=134250#13
=================> > >
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for a spray paint rig solution |
| From: | "Wade Lawicki" <wlawicki(at)yahoo.com> |
Arran,
I live in Lebanon and I`m going to be spraying a wing this weekend, buy
my stuff at Harbor Freight and works fine after a little practice id love
to come see yours.
Wade
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| From: | APilot(at)webtv.net |
| Subject: | Re: Urgent Kolb Firestar II Empty weights w/ options? |
Maybe my Mark III Classic will be for sale in a few months. a/c 916,
722-9692
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| From: | robert bean <slyck(at)frontiernet.net> |
Toe adjustment: pull off socket, file bolt holes oblong in the
required direction with
a skinny round file, reinstall and twist to proper toe, tighten
bolts. If you are insecure
about the potential "slop" with the out of round holes you can either
weld one side to re-round
them or stuff a little shaped chunk in the applicable side. However
I have found
that merely squeezing down the nut holds direction fine. Voila!
adjustable toe.
(this in a 600 lb empty MkIII flown off a slightly irregular surface)
Painting: one little tip... if your surface tapes have a few rough
spots, such as around
a wing tip bow, apply a little pressure with the nose of your hot
iron. The glue and
dope will remelt and the tape will assume a more pleasant and lowly
appearance.
For large panels I now use a Milwaukee heat gun but for small areas
and wrinkles
the old iron still works well. Always run backwards with the point
trailing.
Go crossways to the wrinkle alignment.
The Harbor Fright guns should work ok, buy a couple. If, due to non-
existent quality
control, one should not work well, take it back and exchange it.
They have a very
liberal policy. Get a compressor that can handle plenty of volume at
50 psi.
No fun shooting intermittently, waiting for more pressure and getting
ugly overspray
on your pretty wing.
BB
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| From: | Bart Morgan <bartmo(at)sbcglobal.net> |
Hi,
I just bought a partially built Firestar II kit. It has a Rotax 503 with E gear
box and a 68" Powerfin prop. Is this a good set up for the Firestar II ?
I have not flown for years but plan to get a tail wheel endorsement in a J 3
Cub before I fly the Kolb.
Any comment and advice will be appreciated.
Bart Morgan
Greenville, Texas
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| From: | "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
Slow morning, so here are two items that might be of interest to the
list -
>From time to time we see people wanting to increase the fuel capacity in
various Kolbs - Just in case you decide to try using a Challenger tank,
here's what not to do - Local who is building a new 2 place Hawk had a
Challenger ten gallon tank, and called Challenger wanting to purchase
the fuel pickup fittings that go inside the tank, rather than
fabricating his own from scratch. Everything was going lovely until the
lady asked him which model he was putting the tank in and he told her it
was not for a Challenger, it was for a Hawk. Order canceled. Irate and
disgusted homebuilder. Moral to the story - if you want any gas tank
parts from Challenger, you better plan to be creative with the order
desk lady before they'll sell you any.
Second item - this same Local was helping an old man with a busted
Challenger get it flying again, (Although after his recent experience
with Challenger, he is having 2nd thoughts...) Anyway, the GPL brand
starter had the nut - the one that holds the Bendix on - come off the
end of the starter shaft and fall into the magneto area and lock up the
engine. Apparently the nut is retained only by Locktite. Enquiry
revealed that this is not the first time this has happened. Might be a
good item to check on if you are using a GPL starter.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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| From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Ultrastar concerns / questions |
At 10:39 AM 9/14/2007, jb92563 wrote:
>
>Did you have your Ultrastar test flights yet?
>
>Im interested to hear how you like it, as I'll also be in the position to
>test fly in a month or two.
>
>What engine do you have on it?
Not yet, but soon... and I'm getting antsy! I just sprayed the last color
coat over some minor fabric repairs (hangar rash on the rudder and one
elevator). Then fix the pitot tube, replace the fuel lines, bleed the
brakes, and it's ready. Up until now most of the time has been spent
getting the trailer ready and registered so I can get it to the airport,
but that's finally done. Problem is I have too many other projects
competing for my time.
Engine is the same as yours, the UL0202.
-Dana
--
--
Children seldom misquote you. In fact, they usually repeat word for word
what you shouldn't have said.
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| From: | David Key <dhkey(at)msn.com> |
503's are a great engine, if you got two 5 gallon tanks you can it to (F69
), come on by I got gas.
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 08:09:04 -0700From: bartmo(at)sbcglobal.netSubject: Kol
b-List: new ownerTo: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Hi,
I just bought a partially built Firestar II kit. It has a Rotax 503 with E
gear box and a 68" Powerfin prop. Is this a good set up for the Firestar I
I ?
I have not flown for years but plan to get a tail wheel endorsement in a J
3 Cub before I fly the Kolb.
Any comment and advice will be appreciated.
Bart Morgan
Greenville, Texas
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| From: | "Denny Rowe" <rowedenny(at)windstream.net> |
| Subject: | Slingshot Questions |
Today I visited my friend Dave Lewis who recently bought a low time
Slingshot and I have a couple qestions for Slingsot builders.
His 582 is spaced up an extra 1/2" in the rear so the rear of the engine
is higher than the front. Is this neccesary? I have my Mk-3 engine level
with the mounts and like it like that.
Also, his gap seal is not so sealed and he would like to rebuild it but
we are a little short of ideas right now on how to accomplish this, if
any Slingshot owners can e-mail me photos of their gap seal area we
would appreciate it.
Thanks,
Denny
Mk-3 N616DR
rowedenny(at)windstream.net
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| From: | "tc1917" <tc1917(at)hughes.net> |
In answer to the Slingshot questions. Yes, yes, yes. You HAVE to raise the
rear of the 582 up compared to the front mounts. Actually, I do not believe
1/2 inch higher is enough. I believe you will need to raise it at least to
3/4 of an inch to achieve what you are looking for. One way is to reverse
the rubber mount for the rear of the engine. that gives you nearly enough
and then add washers. I had to use risers on mine in order to facilitate
the wing fold. I have a side mounted exhaust. Will send pic if you would
like or come to the Kolb Factory Fly-in. This is because of the angle of
the wings and the boom. If you do not do this, the engine will litterly try
to push you over. Too much incident and you will loose precious power from
the prop. If you are refering to the center gap seal I believe you would
HAVE to have it as well as the ail. gap seals. I cannot believe someone
would fly it without it. I used alum. the first time and plexi the second.
been flying for almost four years without it cracking. Like I said, come on
to the Kolb fly in and take a look. will give you lots of more hints about
its attributes. one of the best flying kolbs out there. runs circles
around everything else in the hands of a good flyer. ta ta. ted cowan,
alabama
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| From: | "Steven Green" <Kolbdriver(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Re: TNK HOMECOMMING |
Plan to be there sometime Thursday.
Steven
----- Original Message -----
From: David Key
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 9:51 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: TNK HOMECOMMING
Who plans on flying in? When are you going to get there?
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| From: | "Denny Rowe" <rowedenny(at)windstream.net> |
Ted,
Thanks for the engine angle answer. Makes sense.
Yes I was talking about the wing gap seal, the plane has one but the top
around the front wing attatch fittings is not sealed.
I would appreciate all the photos I can get of this area inside and out
to see how folks made theirs.
Denny Rowe
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| Subject: | VW ENGINE MOUNT (first ever from Kolb) |
| From: | "Rick Lewis" <cktman(at)hughes.net> |
I am now the pround owner of the first ever Kolb built VW Engine mount. :D
Thank you Rick Neisen for your help and push to make this possible. The Kolb
people are possibly going to offer the new mount in the future as an alternative
to the Rotax. By using the VW Engine on the M3X, one can easily save $10,000.
Also, I will be using the water cooled heads on my engine along with the
series 3 re-drive from Culver Props.
While Travis and Donnie probably had input on the new mount, I bet the main
man was DENNIS. Dennis is their welder/designer and I'm thinking he was given
the task to come up with this. He also made a jig were he will be able to
make future cages with the mount when requested.
Anyone interested in seeing pictures of all this e-mail me and I will get
send them to you. cktman(at)hughes.net
Rick
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=134586#134586
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| From: | "Seamus Jones" <seamusrjones(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | Looking to buy a Mark III or similar 2 place plane |
saw a nice one on mkIII on barnstormers.com in central texas area priced low
20s
>From: "grantr" <grant_richardson25(at)yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
>To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
>Subject: Kolb-List: Looking to buy a Mark III or similar 2 place plane
>Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 12:22:46 -0700
>
>
>Guys I am looking for a Kolb MarkIII or similar 2 seat dual control
>airplane with folding wings. I have a 8.5W X 24L X 6.25T enclosed trailer
>to hanger it in.
>
>I am in Georgia.
>
>Thanks,
>Grant
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=134250#134250
>
>
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| From: | KolbFlyerJim(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Pilot operating handbook for an UltraStar |
Hi all Jim here
Dose anyone have a pilot operating handbook For an UltraStar ????
THANKS Jim
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| From: | tony malins <malins2005(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Operating handbook M3X |
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| From: | KolbFlyerJim(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Pilot operating handbook for an UltraStar |
Thanks Dan
I have the build manual dosnt give vne best rate of climb,Best angle of
climb,or any other info i need. Yes I have N numbered my UltraStar. from the looks
of it I Have the only N numbered UltraStar in the country.
Thanks Jim VanGarsse
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | KolbFlyerJim(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Pilot operating handbook for an UltraStar |
Sorry I was WRONG about the only n numbered UltraStar
Jim
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Pilot operating handbook for an UltraStar |
Jim V:
Back in 1984, when I built my Ultrastar, there was not a lot of info on
the aircraft. However, it was plenty to build and fly the airplane.
There were no V speeds in the builders manual. Homer said to take the
Ultrastar at least 1,000 feet above the ground and check the stall
speed. Then you were ready to make your first landing, carrying about 5
or 10 mph over stall.
john h
mkIII
I have the build manual dosnt give vne best rate of climb,Best angle
of climb,or any other info i need. Yes I have N numbered my UltraStar.
from the looks of it I Have the only N numbered UltraStar in the
country.
Thanks Jim VanGarsse
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| From: | KolbFlyerJim(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Pilot operating handbook for an UltraStar |
Thanks John
Jim Here. I have put over 200 hrs on my UltraStar in 2 seasons i just need
the info for a manual for the UltraStar for an airworthyness cert,
Thanks Jim
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Pilot operating handbook for an UltraStar |
Jim:
In that case, the numbers are really insignificant except to fill in the
blanks.
I'd come up with the best I could.
john h
Jim Here. I have put over 200 hrs on my UltraStar in 2 seasons i just
need the info for a manual for the UltraStar for an airworthyness cert,
Thanks Jim
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | KolbFlyerJim(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Pilot operating handbook for an UltraStar |
Thanks Mike & Jaz
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| Subject: | Re: FireFly Electrics |
| From: | "lucien" <lstavenhagen(at)hotmail.com> |
henry.voris wrote:
> Rick,
> Nope my 477 doesn't use points.
> I have the Rotax manuals...
> Thanks for the tip on "AeroElectric Connection here on the Matronics lists and
Bob Knuckolls' web site."
> Also, there's no cap or battery... I do plan to install a small battery (to
check the electric fuel pump before starting the engine...), but that is a future
project.
> My concern now revolves around the fact that the DC system (everything past
the KW Voltage Regulator) doesn't use the cage as a bus for the ground... And
there is no continuity between the engine and the cage. I can't think of a reason
why this is wrong, it simply isn't the way I would have done it if I had wired
the plane from the get-go, so it makes me a bit uneasy.
> Thanks for the help...
> Aloha,
This isn't necessarily bad. One drawback of using the cage as the ground is magnetization
that can occur to the tubes due to the current flow through them. This
can give you fits trying to get your compass to work ;). This was a problem
on my titan.
Though this is usually only a problem if you've got electric start where a whole
bunch of current goes through the frame.
Otherwise, as long as everything shares the same ground, IIRC, you should be ok
whether it's the frame or not....
(unless you need more than one ground, but I can't think of a situation where you
need that?)
LS
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LS
FS II
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Looks like there is a Firefly on Ebay. Is this Don G's old plane?
Steve
Firefly 007/Floats
do not archive
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| Subject: | Challenger 10-gal fuel tank |
| From: | "Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL" <Dennis.Kirby(at)kirtland.af.mil> |
Richard Pike wrote: << Just in case you decide to try using a Challenger
tank, here's what not to do ...>>
I've seen discussion about using the Challenger ten gallon fuel tanks in
our Kolbs, and how the square footprint of that tank fits exactly in the
space provided in a Kolb. I have even considered this option for
increasing fuel capacity in my Mark-3.
Question: Has anyone on this List actually done this? Can you even get
that 10-gal fuel tank in without cutting cage structure? The stock
5-gallon tanks are troublesome enough to twist, rotate, and contort into
their designed slots in the cage. Makes me wonder if a tank twice as
tall would even fit.
How about the six-gallon tanks that New Kolb has recently advertised?
Can those also be fitted without cutting out tubes?
Dennis Kirby
Mark-III, 912ul, and looking for increased fuel capacity options, in
Cedar Crest, NM
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| From: | "Robert Laird" <rlaird(at)cavediver.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Challenger 10-gal fuel tank |
I've got, but haven't yet installed, the 6-gallon tanks from TNK. I
have, however, verified that they will fit without any cutting....
barely. I can't imagine how anything bigger would ever fit unless you
were just started building....
-- Robert
On 9/17/07, Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL wrote:
>
>
> Richard Pike wrote: << Just in case you decide to try using a Challenger
> tank, here's what not to do ...>>
>
> I've seen discussion about using the Challenger ten gallon fuel tanks in
> our Kolbs, and how the square footprint of that tank fits exactly in the
> space provided in a Kolb. I have even considered this option for
> increasing fuel capacity in my Mark-3.
>
> Question: Has anyone on this List actually done this? Can you even get
> that 10-gal fuel tank in without cutting cage structure? The stock
> 5-gallon tanks are troublesome enough to twist, rotate, and contort into
> their designed slots in the cage. Makes me wonder if a tank twice as
> tall would even fit.
>
> How about the six-gallon tanks that New Kolb has recently advertised?
> Can those also be fitted without cutting out tubes?
>
> Dennis Kirby
> Mark-III, 912ul, and looking for increased fuel capacity options, in
> Cedar Crest, NM
>
>
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| From: | "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Challenger 10-gal fuel tank |
Dennis, I had a chance to measure the Challenger tank when I had a CII clip
wing in the shop. It won't fit without mods. When I asked Travis if getting
the new 6 gallon tank into the MkIII airframe was as big a PITA as the 5
gallon, his reply, was, "yeah, about the same."
Just looking at the six gallon tank at Sun n Fun, it looked like it was
taller, but I didn't have a tape measure with me at the time. :-)
Rick
On 9/17/07, Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL wrote:
>
> Dennis.Kirby(at)kirtland.af.mil>
>
>
> Richard Pike wrote: << Just in case you decide to try using a Challenger
> tank, here's what not to do ...>>
>
> I've seen discussion about using the Challenger ten gallon fuel tanks in
> our Kolbs, and how the square footprint of that tank fits exactly in the
> space provided in a Kolb. I have even considered this option for
> increasing fuel capacity in my Mark-3.
>
> Question: Has anyone on this List actually done this? Can you even get
> that 10-gal fuel tank in without cutting cage structure? The stock
> 5-gallon tanks are troublesome enough to twist, rotate, and contort into
> their designed slots in the cage. Makes me wonder if a tank twice as
> tall would even fit.
>
> How about the six-gallon tanks that New Kolb has recently advertised?
> Can those also be fitted without cutting out tubes?
>
> Dennis Kirby
> Mark-III, 912ul, and looking for increased fuel capacity options, in
> Cedar Crest, NM
>
>
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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| Subject: | Re: Challenger 10-gal fuel tank |
I have a Challenger 10 gal fuel tank in my Firefly. It was ordered that way from
the old Kolb factory. The tank needs to be empty to put it in or out, and
needs to be turned just so, but it does work fine. I believe the 4 bracing rods
that hold the tank in are in different spots from standard to allow for the
larger circumference tank.
--------
Jim
N. Idaho
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| From: | Bob Noyer <a58r(at)verizon.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Firefly on Ebay |
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| From: | Russ Kinne <russ(at)rkiphoto.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Firefly on Ebay |
came thru blank!
On Sep 17, 2007, at 4:11 PM, Bob Noyer wrote:
>
>
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| From: | flymichigan(at)comcast.net |
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When I got my Firefly it did not have a gap seal. I considered putting
one on but I'm 6-01 and I think it would make it more difficult to get in
and out of the Firefly.
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| From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
OK, with all the talk about how important the center section gap seal is on
the later birds, how 'bout the Ultrastar? Mine didn't come with one, the
previous owner said it made little or no difference, after it ripped he
never replaced it, but he only flew the plane a few times.
-Dana
--
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Every election, Mickey Mouse looks better and better as President.
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
> OK, with all the talk about how important the center section gap seal is
> on the later birds, how 'bout the Ultrastar?
> -Dana
Dana:
My own personal experience came as a shock when I learned, in the air, that
flying an Ultrastar without the gap seal seriously degraded performance of
the aircraft.
Always in a hurry to get stuff done so I could fly, back in the early days,
I decided to do a quick test flight around the patch without the US gap
seal. Soon as I was in the air I realized it was there for more than
aesthetics.
The original nylon gap seal Old Kolb provided were quickly destroyed by UV.
I found that normal roofing valley aluminum made an excellent gap seal.
Welded a couple tabs fore and aft, top and bottom, to attach with tinnerman
nuts. Worked great.
Later on decided I should use "real" aircraft material, so bought an
expensive roll of 2024 aluminum. In a matter of hours the 2024 started
cracking and splitting. The cheap, soft hardware store variety worked much
better.
Some low time Kolb pilots don't know the difference between a good flying
Kolb and one that flies like a dog.
john h
mkIII
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| From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
At 08:53 PM 9/17/2007, John Hauck wrote:
>
>My own personal experience came as a shock when I learned, in the air,
>that flying an Ultrastar without the gap seal seriously degraded
>performance of the aircraft.
John, degraded how?
-Dana
--
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In England, the cops say, 'Halt or I'll say halt again!'
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
>
> John, degraded how?
>
> -Dana
Dana:
Performance of the Ultrastar is seriously degraded. You know, like it takes
a heck of a lot more power to make the airplane fly. There is a tremendous
amount of drag on the airplane. In addition, it loses lift and degrades the
controls. Typically, what happens when the airflow is seriously screwed up
in and around the airplane.
That is my experience with the Ultrastar circa 1984 or 85. Maybe all that
has changed by now. ;-)
My 1986 Firestar also suffered from the same characteristics when flown
without the gap seal. Again, that was a long time ago, like 1986 ot 87.
john h
mkIII
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
Hi Ellery:
Never flew a FSII without the gap seal. Can only speak for the original
FS and US, which in my opinion flew much better than any FSII I have
flown over the years.
I was very fortunate, last june, while at Homer Kolb's, to get to fly
the 1985 Oshkosh Grand Champion Firestar powered with a dual carb 503.
Mine had a 40 hp 447, which Homer would not sell me with the kit. Kit
came with a 35 hp 377. Homer's FS was a rocket ship, very light and
powerful.
john h
mkIII
the plane flew as good without it as it did with it
Ellery in Maine
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| From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Pilot operating handbook for an UltraStar |
At 02:50 PM 9/16/2007, KolbFlyerJim(at)aol.com wrote:
>Thanks Dan
>
>I have the build manual dosnt give vne best rate of climb,Best angle of
>climb,or any other info i need. Yes I have N numbered my UltraStar. from
>the looks of it I Have the only N numbered UltraStar in the country.
Why are you N-numbering an Ultrastar?
-Dana
--
--
A common mistake that people make when trying to design something
completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.
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| From: | KolbFlyerJim(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Pilot operating handbook for an UltraStar |
Hi Dana
IM N numbering because I have more than 5 gallons of fuel and over weight
Thanks Jim
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
> Kolbers, the vibration I previously reported, more like a buzz
> sensation, when running at or about 5000 rpm
> has revealed itself to be a harmonic involving the engine/prop/ redrive
> combination.
> > BB
Morning Bob:
Sorry to hear about the harmonic problem. However, what little I am
familiar with the Suzuki/Geo Metro engines on light planes, seems to
indicate most have harmonic vibration and torsional vibration problems. I
don't know what the answer is, but hope you get it worked out.
john h
mkIII
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| From: | "Vic Peters" <vicsvinyl(at)verizon.net> |
All
I also have an annoying, not sure how serious vibe when throttling back from
full power around 4200 RPM. It smooths right out below 4000. Doesn't do it
powering up.
912UL 70" warp, little to much pitch.
What should I look for?
By the way I,ve seen Ellery fly up close and real personal.
I'm convinced he could fly a washing machine with a window fan for power!
Vic
Maine
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| Subject: | Sep. 2007 Sport Aviation Photo |
| From: | "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot1(at)tx.rr.com> |
Hi All,
Nothing has been said about one of our own having a picture of his VW powered Kolb
MarkIII Classic and him in the September 2007 issue of the EAA Sport Aviation
magazine.
Well done Rick. I know that you were reading the FARs.
--------
John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolbra, 912ULS
http://home.tx.rr.com/kolbrapilot
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| Subject: | Re: Sep. 2007 Sport Aviation Photo |
You are right, page 54.
With that table cloth over his MKIII it is hard to spot
Steve
Firefly 007/Floats
do not archive
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| From: | "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Sep. 2007 Sport Aviation Photo |
John
Thanks. I missed it. After your post I went through my copy and sure enough
it is me reading a good book. I read the FARs at bed time to put me to
sleep.
What the photo doesn't show is the lack of planes in the camp ground. Rough
ground, high prices, no services, few venders, harassment they keep it up
and I'll be camping there by myself.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot1(at)tx.rr.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 10:37 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Sep. 2007 Sport Aviation Photo
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> Nothing has been said about one of our own having a picture of his VW
> powered Kolb MarkIII Classic and him in the September 2007 issue of the
> EAA Sport Aviation magazine.
>
> Well done Rick. I know that you were reading the FARs.
>
> --------
> John Williamson
> Arlington, TX
>
> Kolbra, 912ULS
> http://home.tx.rr.com/kolbrapilot
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=135035#135035
>
>
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>
>
>
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Sep. 2007 Sport Aviation Photo |
> Nothing has been said about one of our own having a picture of his VW
powered Kolb MarkIII Classic and him in the September 2007 issue of the EAA
Sport Aviation magazine.
> John Williamson
Hi John W:
Well, I didn't say anything about Rick's photo cause I missed it when I read
my Sport Avn Mag.
I can attest to the fact that Rick was studying his FAR's and Kolb MKIII
Handbook. I was camped right next door to him.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | What is the Difference btw a twinstar, mark II and Mark III? |
| From: | "grantr" <grant_richardson25(at)yahoo.com> |
Will some one tell me what the difference is between the Kolb Twinstar, mark II
and Mark III models?
What year these were made and the main differences.
Thanks,
Grant
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| From: | possums <possums(at)bellsouth.net> |
At 11:15 PM 9/17/2007, you wrote:
>
>John H says: "Some low time Kolb pilots don't know the difference
>between a good flying
>Kolb and one that flies like a dog. "
>
>The bottom is OPEN. The leading edge is formed aluminum and that
>extends about 12" back, but then it is open all the way to the rear.
>
>My question is about the open bottom. I saw it quite a challenge to
>build the bottom section around the BRS, and it got harder the
>further back I went. I figured the the top was the most important
>and I could skip the bottom.
>
>Does an open bottom gap seal = a "dog" Kolb?
The bottom on mine is open and just slides into the tracks on the end of
the wings, held by two screws on the front. Flys fine.
It's not as wide as a Mark III gap seal would be, so I don't know about those.
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| Subject: | Re: What is the Difference btw a twinstar, mark II and Mark |
III?
| From: | "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot1(at)tx.rr.com> |
Hi Grant and All,
This .pdf file is a short history of the Kolb line of aircraft. It might answer
a few of your questions.
--------
John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolbra, 912ULS
http://home.tx.rr.com/kolbrapilot
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| From: | "Steven Green" <Kolbdriver(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Kolb Mark III For Sale |
I have decided to put my Mark III up for sale.
The plane has 515 hrs on it. The engine about 460. I purchased the kits
in 1999 and completed in Jan. 2001
Factory Options:
Powder coating
Dual hydraulic brakes
BRS 1050
Dual Magnum strobes
Covering kit
Engine/Prop:
912S
SS exhaust
Ivo Medium 2 blade prop
Other accessories:
Custom fabricated 20 gal fuel tank
Wing fold dolly and accessories
Full enclosure
EIS with built-in altimeter
ELT
Price $29,500
The attached picture was made when I had a 582 engine.
I plan to be at TNK homecoming
Steven Green
423-263-1614
Etowah, TN
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| From: | "pat ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
In case anyone is interested.
Poking round on Google I found my strip. Farmer had obviously mowed the
grass as it all looks nice and neat. My hangar is the T hangar at the
edge of the field, with the barn which I managed to drive into close by.
All the other a/c are tucked away in the farm buildings.
Try 51 21 45.37 N
2 12`19.33 W
Cheers
Pat
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Pat, while you are looking at the google page you can cut and paste the
whole address and post a link.
makes it easy to find.
Steve
Firefly 007/Floats
do not archive
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| From: | KolbFlyerJim(at)aol.com |
Hi BB
Jim here
May I ask what ratio you have in the gear box?
Jim
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| Subject: | Re: Firefly on Ebay |
| From: | "R. Hankins" <rphanks(at)grantspass.com> |
Kolb historians:
I've never seen an original firestar up close. The fuselage cage shown on E-bay
is very different than the one on my KXP. Was the original Firestar that different,
or is this one modified?
Thanks,
--------
Roger in Oregon
1992 KXP 503
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Firefly on Ebay |
> I've never seen an original firestar up close. The fuselage cage shown
on E-bay is very different than the one on my KXP. Was the original
Firestar that different, or is this one modified?
> Roger in Oregon
Roger:
The "contraption" on EBAY being advertised as a Kolb Firestar is not one.
The only thing Kolb about it is the plans.
Should send the seller a note that he is falsely advertising.
One of the photos is the Kolb Company Firefly. The pilot is me at Sun and
Fun, Lakeland. Forget what year that was.
The guy selling Don G's old Firefly also used file photos of me flying the
factory Firefly.
john h
mkIII
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Firefly on Ebay |
> Should send the seller a note that he is falsely advertising.
>
> john h
Roger:
I sent the seller a note explaining he did not have a Kolb Firestar for
sale, only Kolb Firestar plans.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Firefly on Ebay |
Looks like a CGS Hawk
Steve B
Firefly 007/Floats
do not archive
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| From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
At 11:12 PM 9/17/2007, Richard Girard wrote:
>...With a gap seal, you have two wing tip vortices, without, you have
>four. On top of that the two inner vortices interfere with each other by
>spinning in opposite directions.
>The two wings flying side by side have half the aspect ratio of the full
>wing so a much larger percentage of each wing is involved in spanwise
>flow. The net result is not just more than twice the induced drag, but a
>significant reduction in lift, too.
I don't think you'd have twice the induced drag, the vortices going in
opposite direction would tend to cancel each other out, somewhat... but I
can see that it still could be signfiicant. More significant, perhaps, may
be the disturbance of the airflow over the tail and/or through the prop
(the latter may be more significant on the low boom Kolbs than on my US
with its prop completely under the wing).
What's odd is the number of people who say it makes no difference at all?
Anyway, I figure it's worth putting it on... once I get familiar with the
plane I might try it without it to see the difference.
My thought is to use .040" clear vinyl sheet, velcroed to the wings and
wrapping all the way around, and secured with cords where it breaks for the
cage structure. Quick and easy, and since it wraps all the way around and
attaches to itself, no chance of it coming off and going through the
prop. Comments?
-Dana
--
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"Calvin, we will not have an anatomically correct snowman!"
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| Subject: | Re: Firefly on Ebay |
| From: | "R. Hankins" <rphanks(at)grantspass.com> |
Thanks for the confirmation. My first inclination was to send the guy a nastygram,
but just in case, I thought I would check with the list first. I was thinking
CGS Hawk as well, what with the ugly nose. They always remind me of an
old sore head salmon. The wing roots in the ad look strange as well.
Sleep deprived, but enjoying being a dad.
--------
Roger in Oregon
1992 KXP 503
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| From: | "pat ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
Pat, while you are looking at the google page you can cut and paste the
whole address and post a link.>>
Thanks. Another day, something else learned.
Cheers
Pat
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| From: | "Denny Rowe" <rowedenny(at)windstream.net> |
| Subject: | 582 ignition trigger wires |
Folks,
My buddy Dave who recently bought the Slingshot has discovered that the
red/white ignition trigger wires coming out of the 582 have insulation
that has turned soft, almost gummy. Does not appear to have been caused
by high current but seems to maybe be a chemical reaction.
Has anyone else with a 582 seen this happen? Its only the trigger
wires, the other wires coming out of the engine have good insulation.
It seems like Rotax used crappy wire for their ignition triggers at some
point.
Thanks,
Denny Rowe, Mk-3, PA
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| From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Ultrastar questions |
Three questions for the Ultrastar gurus as I get closer to getting my plane
ready:
In level flight, I assume the boom tube (unlike the low boom Kolbs) is
approximately horizontal? I ask this because I'm going to redo the pitot
tube from the original owner's hokey arrangement, and I want to get it
angled right, and also get the compass (I know an US doesn't really need
one but I have an extra laying around) level.
The hole for the lower clevis pin that operates the elevators (goes through
both elevator horns with the actuator arm in the middle) seems to be too
low, so that it hits the tube that runs underneath, preventing the
elevators from going all the way down. Somebody drilled a new hole about
1" farther up, and that's where the bolt (which they used instead of the
original clevis pin) went through. It works that way, but I'm concerned
that there is a little loss of precision, and more importantly, strength...
though I doubt the loads are all that high). Thoughts?
I replaced the lower tail wires as they were kinked (uppers were
OK). Everything is in good alignment, but I'm unclear how tight they
should be. On my T-Craft, the book said to strum them and get a "low bass
tone"... what about the US?
-Dana
--
--
I started out with nothing. I still have most of it left.
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| From: | "Jim Kmet" <jlsk1(at)frontiernet.net> |
| Subject: | Re: 582 ignition trigger wires |
I`ve been having an intermittent tach problem, & upon close examination
on my 582, the yellow/black & Black/yellow wires are now so soft, I can
induce fraying rubbing hard with my fingers! I`m having them replaced
tommorrow eve on my 582. I can`t speak about the red ones yet though.
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: Denny Rowe
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 6:35 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: 582 ignition trigger wires
Folks,
My buddy Dave who recently bought the Slingshot has discovered that
the red/white ignition trigger wires coming out of the 582 have
insulation that has turned soft, almost gummy. Does not appear to have
been caused by high current but seems to maybe be a chemical reaction.
Has anyone else with a 582 seen this happen? Its only the trigger
wires, the other wires coming out of the engine have good insulation.
It seems like Rotax used crappy wire for their ignition triggers at some
point.
Thanks,
Denny Rowe, Mk-3, PA
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| From: | robert bean <slyck(at)frontiernet.net> |
Jim, no gears but the belt reduction is 2.26:1 -very close to the
rotax 2.27 gearbox for the 80hp 912.
Yesterday, after spending a morning of bulldozing a new meadow then
seeing Thom Riddle off with his trailerload of Kolb FS,
I punched out the old bearing races (cones are the proper
terminology) in the hub and went bowling.
Today I'll start fitting the new assembly, most likely having to
machine a new spacer. Tricky process getting next to no
endplay with dry bearings, all squoze down with 60 ftlbs, double
nutted and keyed with a tab washer.
To be truthful I have never done either a balance check or runout on
the Powerfin 3 blade prop, figuring that
it is so light, it wouldn't be a problem. As the Fonz said, I could
be wr- wr- mistaken.
I'll check both it and the Warp I'll be assembling this week.
re, John Hauck and the suzuki vibes: definitely not a smooth runner
and should have a flywheel ignition sensor
to help smooth things out. My stock distributor Hall type trigger
has a tendency to fire a little unevenly.
Whenever anyone has asked my advice I have suggested going to the 4
cylinder (G13) version
and using the Russian made SPG-2 gearbox instead of the belt drive.
Do as I say, not as I do.
BB
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: 582 ignition trigger wires |
Jim:
You all spoke with Kodiak about the problem?
To me, that is a serious one.
Some years ago Kodiak went through a alternator stator exchange program
because of improper insulation on wiring.
john h
I`ve been having an intermittent tach problem, & upon close
examination on my 582, the yellow/black & Black/yellow wires are now so
soft, I can induce fraying rubbing hard with my fingers! I`m having them
replaced tommorrow eve on my 582. I can`t speak about the red ones yet
though. Jim
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In a message dated 9/18/2007 11:52:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
lcottrell(at)fmtcblue.com writes:
> What's odd is the number of people who say it makes no difference at all?
>
> Anyway, I figure it's worth putting it on... once I get familiar with the
> plane I might try it without it to see the difference.
I find it odd that people say that it makes no difference as well. I have
flown Mark III with gap seal ( mine) and another when I was getting my
Ultralight pilots lic with no gap seal and the one with no seal flew like a
dog. It was a bear to land, stall was about 60 or more with flaps. I
attempted to try to convince the guy to put one on. He would not. I believe
it is scrap parts now.
Larry C
I just crow hopped my firestar KX after 2 1/2 years of nonflying and had to
rediscover how to swim again..... and I did not have the gap seal on yet. Took
55mph to get off the ground (but I had gained a little weight too,
squirrelled to the right...probably p factor....with full left rudder ....but
it went
right anyway and gradually veered left....just before I hit the tree in front
of me....soooooo I didn't hit the tree afterall. It finally became
controllable and I took off, going very fast...Hall was pegged at 55.....backed
off on
throttle, more n more n more and it finally started to come down.....it was
floating for sure.... and I landed several times as the speed was still
high.........sooooo busy didn't care to look at Hall.
Lotsa squirrels to that flight..............rest assured, my next attempt
will be WITH gapseal.
George Randolph
Firestar driver in the Villages, florida.... testing at Richard Swiderski's
house
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| From: | "Jim Kmet" <jlsk1(at)frontiernet.net> |
| Subject: | Re: 582 ignition trigger wires |
John, I have a Rotax trained tech coming Thurs PM to look at this. This
engine was overhauled by Ronnie at South Ms Light Aircraft Dec 2006 &
was put into service this May. Ronnie called it "0" timed". Ronnie came
highly recommended.
When I installed it, both Oil injection lines leaked, they had not been
replaced.Now, the wiring condition is suspect. I will go to another
service agent in the future. I`ll pick your brain next week after I get
a verdict thursday PM on these wires. Thanks for the input, Jim-----
Original Message -----
From: John Hauck
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 8:21 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 582 ignition trigger wires
Jim:
You all spoke with Kodiak about the problem?
To me, that is a serious one.
Some years ago Kodiak went through a alternator stator exchange
program because of improper insulation on wiring.
john h
I`ve been having an intermittent tach problem, & upon close
examination on my 582, the yellow/black & Black/yellow wires are now so
soft, I can induce fraying rubbing hard with my fingers! I`m having them
replaced tommorrow eve on my 582. I can`t speak about the red ones yet
though. Jim
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Denny Rowe" <rowedenny(at)windstream.net> |
| Subject: | Re: 582 ignition trigger wires |
Sounds like this might be one of those John, I'll try to get the S/N
from Dave tonight and call Kodiak.
Denny
----- Original Message -----
From: John Hauck
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 9:21 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 582 ignition trigger wires
Jim:
You all spoke with Kodiak about the problem?
To me, that is a serious one.
Some years ago Kodiak went through a alternator stator exchange
program because of improper insulation on wiring.
john h
I`ve been having an intermittent tach problem, & upon close
examination on my 582, the yellow/black & Black/yellow wires are now so
soft, I can induce fraying rubbing hard with my fingers! I`m having them
replaced tommorrow eve on my 582. I can`t speak about the red ones yet
though. Jim
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----
9/18/2007 11:53 AM
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| Subject: | Ultrastar questions |
| From: | "Bill Rayfield" <bill.rayfield(at)optilogistics.com> |
I'm not guru by any means!
But, I do remember in the weight and balance section of the US manual,
it says to set the tail up so the boom tube is angled down approximately
10 degrees - this is the flight attitude.
I remember because we screwed up twice by making it perfectly level and
it just won't work out that way....
Hope this helps
Billyray in GA
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From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dana Hague
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 7:56 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Ultrastar questions
Three questions for the Ultrastar gurus as I get closer to getting my
plane ready:
In level flight, I assume the boom tube (unlike the low boom Kolbs) is
approximately horizontal? I ask this because I'm going to redo the
pitot tube from the original owner's hokey arrangement, and I want to
get it angled right, and also get the compass (I know an US doesn't
really need one but I have an extra laying around) level.
The hole for the lower clevis pin that operates the elevators (goes
through both elevator horns with the actuator arm in the middle) seems
to be too low, so that it hits the tube that runs underneath, preventing
the elevators from going all the way down. Somebody drilled a new hole
about 1" farther up, and that's where the bolt (which they used instead
of the original clevis pin) went through. It works that way, but I'm
concerned that there is a little loss of precision, and more
importantly, strength... though I doubt the loads are all that high).
Thoughts?
I replaced the lower tail wires as they were kinked (uppers were OK).
Everything is in good alignment, but I'm unclear how tight they should
be. On my T-Craft, the book said to strum them and get a "low bass
tone"... what about the US?
-Dana
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| From: | Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com> |
Group,
After recently recovering from a disease related to being an old fart, I finally
feel like getting back in the shop, again, to work on my Kolb. A few months
ago, I believe it was Richard (Neilson?) that took some photos at Sun 'n Fun of
the new yellow Kolb MkIIIX. (which I have filed)
On this Xtra, it appeared there were aileron bellcranks and pushrods!!! Was this
a standard conversion, from the Mk3C to the Mk3X, or was this a new mod TNK
came out with recently? When I look at Mike's (Jetpilot) Xtra, I don't see those
aileron horns. Anyone know the story or have a drawing (or photo) on this new
design??
And, while I'm on the subject of ailerons. I have heard some people have balanced
their ailerons. I don't seem to recall anywhere in my MkIIIC assembly manual,
or plans refer to balancing the ailerons. Wut's up wit dat? (for those fluent
in ebonics)
A few words of enlightenment would be greatly appreciated. Mike in SW
Polygamy Utah
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| Subject: | Re: Ailerons 101 |
In a message dated 9/19/2007 3:48:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com writes:
On this Xtra, it appeared there were aileron bellcranks and pushrods!!! Was
this a standard conversion
Mike, No , this is not standard, it is a new push/pull cable config being
tested by TNK. Ask travis about it.
As far as aileron balance, I will let someone more experienced answer.
Steve
Firefly 007/Floats
do not archive
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Ailerons 101 |
> And, while I'm on the subject of ailerons. I have heard some people have
balanced their ailerons.
Mike in SW Polygamy Utah
Old Kolb Company would not accept the fact that some of us were experiencing
aileron flutter. In my case, all three of the Kolbs I built, US, FS, and
mkIII. It took Dick Rahill seriously scaring himself in the factory FSII
when he inadvertently got into aileron flutter to wake them up and come up
with a solution.
Previous to that and during the build of my mkIII, I fabricated counter
balance weights. During testing discovered my solution only added to the
problem. Took them off and flew without any until Kolb came up with a good
set of counterbalance weights that worked.
Some Kolbs don't have a problem, and some do. Counter balance weights are
cheap insurance.
As an added note reference aileron flutter. Some folks think the problem
lies with lose control linkage, hinges, pivot points, etc. Not so. The
problem lies with big ailerons that are hinged from the leading edge and not
balanced. Once the aileron is balanced, it flies through the air, smooth or
rough, as slick as a whistle.
john h
mkIII
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Ailerons 101 |
Mike
I don't think I posted the photo but I have looked at the new ailerons and
personally I think they fixed something not broken. Push pull cables can
fail and you can't preflight them. If they start binding hopefully you will
have time to fix them before they are a problem. But fixing would require
opening the wing.
I saw the plane a Sun N Fun ready to fly and at Oshkosh ready to fly but????
Has it been test flown yet?
I balanced my ailerons with only 2 inches of the solid bar in the balance
arms and that worked till I got the redrive engine on my MKIIIC which
allowed me to fly faster. I noticed at high cruise (80MPH) that there was a
small amount of flutter starting so I changed to 4 inch of solid balance
bar. So far there has been no more flutter as fast as I have gone so far 95
MPH. I recommend everyone balance the ailerons as instructed, I just don't
like any more weight in my plane than necessary.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Welch" <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 3:46 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Ailerons 101
>
>
> Group,
>
> After recently recovering from a disease related to being an old fart, I
> finally feel like getting back in the shop, again, to work on my Kolb. A
> few months ago, I believe it was Richard (Neilson?) that took some photos
> at Sun 'n Fun of the new yellow Kolb MkIIIX. (which I have filed)
> On this Xtra, it appeared there were aileron bellcranks and pushrods!!!
> Was this a standard conversion, from the Mk3C to the Mk3X, or was this a
> new mod TNK came out with recently? When I look at Mike's (Jetpilot) Xtra,
> I don't see those aileron horns. Anyone know the story or have a drawing
> (or photo) on this new design??
>
> And, while I'm on the subject of ailerons. I have heard some people have
> balanced their ailerons. I don't seem to recall anywhere in my MkIIIC
> assembly manual, or plans refer to balancing the ailerons. Wut's up wit
> dat? (for those fluent in ebonics)
>
> A few words of enlightenment would be greatly appreciated. Mike
> in SW Polygamy Utah
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| Subject: | Re: Ailerons 101 |
In a message dated 9/19/2007 4:22:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com writes:
Once the aileron is balanced, it flies through the air, smooth or
rough, as slick as a whistle.
john h
John,
Why does the Firefly not require balance?
Steve
Firefly 007/Floats
do not archive
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Ailerons 101 |
I noticed at high cruise (80MPH) that there was a
> small amount of flutter starting so I changed to 4 inch of solid balance
> bar. Rick Neilsen
Rick N:
The mkIII ailerons normally do not get into flutter until above 80mph. On
my mkIII anyhow. About 82 or 83 it would start nibbling at flutter. By 85
she would be in full flutter is not caught in time.
john h
mkIII
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Ailerons 101 |
Steve B:
How do you know it does not require counter balance weights?
If it flutters it will require counter balance weights. ;-)
Like I said in a previous msg, some do, some don't. Higher airspeeds
are more conducive to aileron flutter.
The old Kolb factory mkIII had no counter balance weights and never
suggested it would get into flutter. On the other hand, mine would
flutter if you looked at it straight.
Counter balance weights are a little insurance that it won't flutter.
Why test it to see if it will?
john h
John,
Why does the Firefly not require balance?
Steve
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ailerons 101 |
I thought it was because I was so Dang slow
Steve
Firefly 007/Floats
do not archive
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | gary aman <gaman(at)att.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Ailerons 101 |
Mike,
On my Firestar,the plans stated that aileron counter-balances were not optional,they
were a must! I think speed is the limiting factor here,perhaps weight considerations
with the Firefly as well,but the faster you go the more chance of
destructive flutter.I also thought all Kolb models had push rod aileron controls.
Group,
After recently recovering from a disease related to being an old fart, I finally
feel like getting back in the shop, again, to work on my Kolb. A few months
ago, I believe it was Richard (Neilson?) that took some photos at Sun 'n Fun of
the new yellow Kolb MkIIIX. (which I have filed)
On this Xtra, it appeared there were aileron bellcranks and pushrods!!! Was this
a standard conversion, from the Mk3C to the Mk3X, or was this a new mod TNK
came out with recently? When I look at Mike's (Jetpilot) Xtra, I don't see those
aileron horns. Anyone know the story or have a drawing (or photo) on this new
design??
And, while I'm on the subject of ailerons. I have heard some people have balanced
their ailerons. I don't seem to recall anywhere in my MkIIIC assembly manual,
or plans refer to balancing the ailerons. Wut's up wit dat? (for those fluent
in ebonics)
A few words of enlightenment would be greatly appreciated. Mike in SW
Polygamy Utah
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| From: | Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com> |
________________________________
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 15:41:55 -0700
From: gaman(at)att.net
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Ailerons 101
Gentlemen,
Yes, Gary, all Kolbs do have push rods to move their ailerons. But, I wa
s referring to the new style pushrods located out in the wing, like my Cess
na has. Take a look see at the enclosed photo. (From Richard Pike, BTW)
I didn't quite fully understand Rick Neilsen's description of the balance
mechanism. By any chance, Rick, do you have a photo. (and maybe a measure
ment or two)
All good stuff, especially John H.'s experience with & without them!!
Mike Welch
Mike,
On my Firestar,the plans stated that aileron counter-balances were not opt
ional,they were a must! I think speed is the limiting factor here,perhaps w
eight considerations with the Firefly as well,but the faster you go the mor
e chance of destructive flutter.I also thought all Kolb models had push rod
aileron controls.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Ailerons 101 |
Hi Gang:
Those little push rods you guys are talking about are actually Push/Pull
Tubes. They work both ways and are not rods, but tubes.
Every time ya'll refer to them as push rods my mind sees push rods in an
four stroke. ;-)
john h
mkIII
Mike,
I also thought all Kolb models had push rod aileron controls.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Ailerons 101 |
All, The factors listed by John are causes of flutter, but there is one mor
e
and that is weight. My MkIII has a very heavy paint job (bought that way)
and without counterweights would begin to get aileron flutter at 70 mph. Ho
w
important is the weight consideration. Consider that an owner of a type
certificated aircraft is allowed to paint his aircraft, EXCEPT control
surfaces. They must be painted by an A & P and rebalanced after painting.
>From FAR 43
43.3 Persons authorized to perform maintenance, preventive maintenance,
rebuilding, and
alterations.<http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr;sid=a
1a6f496bfde9ac0e97543f1f2281eed;rgn=div5;view=text;node=14%3A1.0.1.3.
20;idno=14;cc=ecfr#14:1.0.1.3.20.0.363.3>
(g) Except for holders of a sport pilot certificate, the holder of a pilot
certificate issued under part 61 may perform preventive maintenance on any
aircraft owned or operated by that pilot which is not used under part 121,
129, or 135 of this chapter. The holder of a sport pilot certificate may
perform preventive maintenance on an aircraft owned or operated by that
pilot and issued a special airworthiness certificate in the light-sport
category.
>From FAR 43 Appendix A
(c) *Preventive maintenance. *Preventive maintenance is limited to the
following work, provided it does not involve complex assembly operations:
9) Refinishing decorative coating of fuselage, balloon baskets, wings tail
group surfaces (excluding balanced control surfaces), fairings, cowlings,
landing gear, cabin, or cockpit interior when removal or disassembly of any
primary structure or operating system is not required.
The faster an aircraft goes the more susceptible it becomes to flutter.
Weight of control surfaces as well as balance becomes more and more
critical. For instance, on the Rutan canard aircraft, the builder is given
a
range of acceptable weights within which the elevators must fall after
balancing, If either does not, the builder is given one chance to fix them
by removing a specified portion of the fiberglass covering by sanding. If i
t
still does not fall within the acceptable range, the builder is instructed
to scrap them and make new.
Rick
On 9/19/07, Mike Welch wrote:
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 15:41:55 -0700
> From: gaman(at)att.net
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Ailerons 101
> To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
>
> Gentlemen,
>
>
> Yes, Gary, all Kolbs do have push rods to move their ailerons. But, I
> was referring to the new style pushrods located out in the wing, like my
> Cessna has. Take a look see at the enclosed photo. (From Richard Pike, B
TW)
> I didn't quite fully understand Rick Neilsen's description of the
> balance mechanism. By any chance, Rick, do you have a photo. (and maybe
a
> measurement or two)
>
> All good stuff, especially John H.'s experience with & without
> them!! Mike Welch
>
>
> Mike,
> On my Firestar,the plans stated that aileron counter-balances were not
> optional,they were a must! I think speed is the limiting factor here,perh
aps
> weight considerations with the Firefly as well,but the faster you go the
> more chance of destructive flutter.I also thought all Kolb models had pus
h
> rod aileron controls.
>
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takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Ailerons 101 |
But, I was referring to the new style pushrods located out in the wing,
like my Cessna has. !
Mike Welch
Mike W:
That is the end of a Morse cable.
john h
mkIII
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com> |
John H.
You mean that photo of the aileron horn is also showing a "Morse cable?"
As in a flexible type aircraft cable with a swaged fitting on the end? O
h!! Then I would assume there is one just like it on top of the wing, too.
Yes?
Mike W.
Hey John, I just checked the other photos and came up with this one of th
e top of the wing. It doesn't appear to have anything attached to control
the top of the aileron. ??? Plus, a real close up vies of the "bellcra
nk & pushrod photo sure appears to have a heavy duty solid steel (?) rod at
tached to the heim bearing.
Is there any other people with new Xtra kits that have this feature, or is
setup this just an orphan?? If it is indeed a solid rod, wouldn't that be
referred to as a "push rod?" Again, this design looks pretty much the same
as on my Cessna 172. As far as I knew, it was a push rod (from the bellcr
ank to the aileron horn). ??? Thanks
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| From: | Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com> |
Ah ha!! After I sent off that last email, I went see what the "Morse cable" was
built like. I see what you mean, John. The end of the cable has the solid
shaft that attaches to the bearing. Oh. Mike W.
> But, I was referring to the new style pushrods located out in the wing,
> like my Cessna has. !
>
> Mike Welch
>
>
> Mike W:
>
> That is the end of a Morse cable.
>
> john h
> mkIII
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Ailerons 101 |
Mike W:
A Morse cable is a push/pull cable. Only needs one. You know
like.........push and pull. ;-)
No, a Morse cable is a very stiff cable inside a flexible housing. They are
used for marine steering cables, also push/pull.
john h
mkIII
You mean that photo of the aileron horn is also showing a "Morse cable?"
As in a flexible type aircraft cable with a swaged fitting on the end? Oh!!
Then I would assume there is one just like it on top of the wing, too. Yes?
Mike W.
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| From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Ultrastar questions |
At 01:20 PM 9/19/2007, Bill Rayfield wrote:
>I'm not guru by any means!
>But, I do remember in the weight and balance section of the US manual, it
>says to set the tail up so the boom tube is angled down approximately 10
>degrees - this is the flight attitude.
>I remember because we screwed up twice by making it perfectly level and it
>just won't work out that way....
Hmm, that doesn't seem right. I know the manual says to balance it that
way, but it doesn't say it's the flight attitude. It may just be that a
properly balanced plane hangs that way when you hang it from a rope as they
suggest.
The wing is at 3=B0 angle of incidence relative to the boom tube. If the
boom tube was at 10=B0 in level flight that'd be a 13=B0 AOA, perilously
close
to stall. I figure I'll set the pitot parallel to the boom tube for the
first flight and see how it goes.
Still on track for this weekend... got the tail rigged, new primary
hardware, and new fuel system components. Had a bit of a scare when the
wing universal fittings (which I inspected REAL closely since I once set
the wingtips on the ground without disconnecting the rear connection first
before I knew better) appeared cracked, but it turned out to be just the
paint... the guy who recovered it left them on when he painted it, and I
guess poly-spray and poly-tone isn't a great finish for metal. After
scraping it down to the primer they looked fine. All that's left now is
the pitot and bleeding the brakes.
-Dana
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| Subject: | Re: Ailerons 101 |
In a message dated 9/19/2007 7:17:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com writes:
Take a look see at the enclosed photo. (From Richard Pike, BTW)
It's also worth noting the beautiful Fairing/Inspection cover fabricated by
Bryan Melborn.
AHHHHH, The Student has become the Master.
Steve B
Firefly 007/Floats
do not archive
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| Subject: | Do you have a registered/certified Mark II Twinstar? |
| From: | "cristalclear13" <cristalclearwaters(at)juno.com> |
I am in the process of registering/certifying the used Kolb Mark II Twinstar I
bought as an ELSA. I can't find the V numbers. I'd like to have a checklist
(takeoff, landing, etc.). Any information for this model sure would be appreciated!
Thanks.
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Cristal
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| From: | tony malins <malins2005(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Wing Support Brackets |
I am still trying to find drawings or photos of a bracket system to support
the wings of my M3X when folded. Any ideas?=0A =0AThai Kolb=0A=0A=0A
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| From: | "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Wing Support Brackets |
Tony
This is what I use as a dolly or wing fold bracket for use in my
trailer. It might be over kill for what you want but check it out. Note!
The picture was taken before I fully covered it with carpet so it would
show how it is made.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
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From: tony malins
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 3:09 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Wing Support Brackets
I am still trying to find drawings or photos of a bracket system to
support the wings of my M3X when folded. Any ideas?
Thai Kolb
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| From: | "boyd" <by0ung(at)brigham.net> |
Dana
Or you could make it permanent, bolt it on and forget it.
Boyd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
My thought is to use .040" clear vinyl sheet, velcroed to the wings and
wrapping all the way around, and secured with cords where it breaks for the
cage structure. Quick and easy, and since it wraps all the way around and
attaches to itself, no chance of it coming off and going through the
prop. Comments?
-Dana
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| From: | APilot(at)webtv.net |
| Subject: | Looking to buy a Mark III or similar 2 place plane |
I may sell my Mark III Classic later this year. Depends on my doctor's
call. Here is my number in case you do not find one closer to you.
Vic Gibson 916, 722-9692
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| From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
At 10:39 AM 9/20/2007, boyd wrote:
>
>Dana
>Or you could make it permanent, bolt it on and forget it.
>
>Boyd
I would, but I expect to be folding the wings on a regular basis.
-Dana
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Support Brackets |
| From: | "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
Since I fold/unfold with every flight, I built a wing support dolly that would
hold the wings above the tail wires to eliminate the need for folding/unfolding
that part for each flight. Attached are some photos.
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Thom in Buffalo
N221FA Allegro 2000 912UL
N197BG FS1/447
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"Setting an example is not the main means of influencing another, it is the
only means."
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| From: | "Jim Kmet" <jlsk1(at)frontiernet.net> |
| Subject: | Re: 582 ignition trigger wires |
Well, I had my Rotax guy come look at my wiring on my 582 last night, &
I showed him these posts. He agreed that I should start by calling Rotax
& see about the replacement Stator. Also of note , the gray Tach wire
showed a 0 Ohm reading.
Called Lockwood, they said that Stator / bad wiring situation was on
912`s ONLY, a few years back, and the best thing to do was to clip the
connectors off the wires, sleeve them with heat shrink tubing to
re-insulate them & fly on. Then when I mentioned the Bad Ohm reading on
the meter, he said that there was indeed a bad coil in the stator & If I
wanted that fixed the only was was to replace the stator.
Over $600. & I hope to have it installed in time for a Flight to London
KY next week.
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: Denny Rowe
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 582 ignition trigger wires
Sounds like this might be one of those John, I'll try to get the S/N
from Dave tonight and call Kodiak.
Denny
----- Original Message -----
From: John Hauck
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 9:21 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 582 ignition trigger wires
Jim:
You all spoke with Kodiak about the problem?
To me, that is a serious one.
Some years ago Kodiak went through a alternator stator exchange
program because of improper insulation on wiring.
john h
I`ve been having an intermittent tach problem, & upon close
examination on my 582, the yellow/black & Black/yellow wires are now so
soft, I can induce fraying rubbing hard with my fingers! I`m having them
replaced tommorrow eve on my 582. I can`t speak about the red ones yet
though. Jim
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: 582 ignition trigger wires |
Jim K:
Probably find a used one. However, I would feel better with a new one
even even though it was overpriced.
john h
Over $600. & I hope to have it installed in time for a Flight to
London KY next week.
Jim
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| From: | "Jim Kmet" <jlsk1(at)frontiernet.net> |
| Subject: | Re: 582 ignition trigger wires |
I Never thought about a used one, but, I guess I would always wonder
about its condition. Anyway, the new one is supposed to be here Tuesday,
my rotax guy sez he`s very busy next week, but I hope he'll work me in.
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: John Hauck
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 582 ignition trigger wires
Jim K:
Probably find a used one. However, I would feel better with a new one
even even though it was overpriced.
john h
Over $600. & I hope to have it installed in time for a Flight to
London KY next week.
Jim
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| From: | Malcolmbru(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: 582 ignition trigger wires |
the tac wires on my 582 went bad ( no or low rpm readings ) you can get
proper tac readings from other wires on the stator so I stopped using the gray
tac wires and my motor has ben running fine for over 70 hrs now. how much do
you want for your old stator? malcolm michigan
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| From: | "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
| Subject: | Re: 582 ignition trigger wires |
Lockwood said the same thing to me when my tach quit working, and
implied that the tach stator failure was a fairly common problem. Got a
Tiny Tach that wraps it's sensing wire around the spark plug wire and
have been well satisfied. Except for the funny looking Tiny Tach on my
panel where the original tach use to be...
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Kmet
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 582 ignition trigger wires
Well, I had my Rotax guy come look at my wiring on my 582 last night,
& I showed him these posts. He agreed that I should start by calling
Rotax & see about the replacement Stator. Also of note , the gray Tach
wire showed a 0 Ohm reading.
Called Lockwood, they said that Stator / bad wiring situation was on
912`s ONLY, a few years back, and the best thing to do was to clip the
connectors off the wires, sleeve them with heat shrink tubing to
re-insulate them & fly on. Then when I mentioned the Bad Ohm reading on
the meter, he said that there was indeed a bad coil in the stator & If I
wanted that fixed the only was was to replace the stator.
Over $600. & I hope to have it installed in time for a Flight to
London KY next week.
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: Denny Rowe
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 582 ignition trigger wires
Sounds like this might be one of those John, I'll try to get the S/N
from Dave tonight and call Kodiak.
Denny
----- Original Message -----
From: John Hauck
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 9:21 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 582 ignition trigger wires
Jim:
You all spoke with Kodiak about the problem?
To me, that is a serious one.
Some years ago Kodiak went through a alternator stator exchange
program because of improper insulation on wiring.
john h
I`ve been having an intermittent tach problem, & upon close
examination on my 582, the yellow/black & Black/yellow wires are now so
soft, I can induce fraying rubbing hard with my fingers! I`m having them
replaced tommorrow eve on my 582. I can`t speak about the red ones yet
though. Jim
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| Subject: | Re: Newborn Pics |
| From: | "John H Murphy" <jhm9812(at)yahoo.com> |
Vic,
What kind of trailer do you own? I have a 24' Haulmark that I use for my
Firestar II. It fits perfectly. I want to build/buy the MkIIIX like you have
I'm not sure it will fit. The trailer is a little longer than 24 feet.
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| From: | "Jim Kmet" <jlsk1(at)frontiernet.net> |
| Subject: | Re: 582 ignition trigger wires |
make an offer, Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: Malcolmbru(at)aol.com
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 582 ignition trigger wires
the tac wires on my 582 went bad ( no or low rpm readings ) you can
get proper tac readings from other wires on the stator so I stopped
using the gray tac wires and my motor has ben running fine for over 70
hrs now. how much do you want for your old stator? malcolm
michigan
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| From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Wing Support Brackets |
At 07:26 AM 9/21/2007, Thom Riddle wrote:
>
>Since I fold/unfold with every flight, I built a wing support dolly that
>would hold the wings above the tail wires to eliminate the need for
>folding/unfolding that part for each flight...
Boy, that's high!
If I can get (or afford!) hangar space for my US, I was thinking of making
a dolly that holds the wings *outside* the unfolded tail. Would use a bit
more floor space but not be so high.
-Dana
--
--
"I'm a lawyer." "Honest?" "No, the usual kind."
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Guys
Need three IVO ul blades 60 inches in dia.. for my firefly..447
rotax...Herb
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| From: | "Tom Deiulio" <tpd47(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | MKIIIX weld yourself cage kit? |
Has anyone ever contacted Kolb to request that the MKIIIX cage be made
available in a weld it yourself form? Say with stock length 4130 tubing
and necessary plans to complete the job at a significant savings. I
welded up a WagAero Sportsman fuselage and had fun doing it. I've read a
few threads on substandard welds from the factory so I would like to do
just the whole thing myself. I highly doubt they would go for this but I
wondered if there was an history on the topic. Thanks.
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Support Brackets |
| From: | "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
Dana,
Either way saves several minutes from the folding/unfolding process, which is important
if it is done every flight. Since I have plenty of unused overhead space
and limited lateral space with the other airplane in the hangar, I went up
instead of out.
--------
Thom in Buffalo
N221FA Allegro 2000 912UL
N197BG FS1/447
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"Setting an example is not the main means of influencing another, it is the
only means."
Albert Einstein
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| Subject: | Re: MKIIIX weld yourself cage kit? |
The factory fuselage is assembled and welded while in an elaborate jig, It
may be difficult to do yourself.
Steve B
Firefly 007/Floats
do not archive
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| From: | chris davis <capedavis(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Wing Support Brackets |
Thom Good idea I spent several years folding and unfolding my KXP and the m
ost time consuming and the most chance of an assembly error was in the tail
and especially the botom cables so I can see the advantage to your method
! Chris =0A=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: Thom Riddle <riddle
tr(at)gmail.com>=0ATo: kolb-list(at)matronics.com=0ASent: Saturday, September 22,
2007 7:50:59 AM=0ASubject: Kolb-List: Re: Wing Support Brackets=0A=0A=0A--
,=0A=0AEither way saves several minutes from the folding/unfolding process,
which is important if it is done every flight. Since I have plenty of unus
ed overhead space and limited lateral space with the other airplane in the
hangar, I went up instead of out.=0A=0A--------=0AThom in Buffalo=0AN221FA
Allegro 2000 912UL=0AN197BG FS1/447=0A--------------------=0A"Setting
an example is not the main means of influencing another, it is the only mea
ns."=0AAlbert Einstein=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A
=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=135732#135732=0A=0A=0A=0A
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| From: | WillUribe(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | ADIZ Helicopter interception |
This is what happens when you let your buddy fly your FireStar.
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| From: | "Wade Lawicki" <wlawicki(at)yahoo.com> |
Group,
We "HAD" an Ultra Star pilot argue the same point 2 years ago in Tullahoma
Tn. at a large event. he thought it was not needed, crashed in front of
hundreds of spectators Dying in a very gruesome way as when his BRS handle hooked
on the tree he impacted, the rocket went off with the cable around his neck,
or where his neck used to be!! Do as you will but, its not worth saving a
couple of minutes of setup time and playing test pilot. I apologize if this sounds
harsh but, the sight of that will never leave my mind.
Fly Safe,
Wade
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| From: | "Vic Peters" <vicsvinyl(at)verizon.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Safe Loading Without Leading Edge Damage |
Hey thats a nice dolly Travis.
My problem is the root end or inboard of the wing leading edge
hitting.
I need a way to keep the load -unload ramps in line with the trailer
bed. (longer legs?)
Not wider just higher. whats the average stance with steel legs outside
tire to tire?
Thanks
Vic
Maine
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| From: | =?ISO-8859-1?Q?No=EBl_Bouchard?= <noelbou(at)vif.com> |
| Subject: | Superb Kolb MK III for sale ... |
Hello all
Please allow me to send this 'ad' for a friend of mine who have decided
to sell
it's very nice Kolb MK III.
I don't have all the detais but here are few things:
MK III with Rotax 912 and Total time ~ 120 Hrs.
Very well built and cared for ...
All instruments + EIS electonic 'gauges'
The plane is located near Montreal, Canada.
Price: $32000
+-----------------------------------------------------------+
Contacts: Alain (cell) 450 602 3750
Or ask your question here and will contact
one of the 2 owners and will try to get back
here with an answer ...
Have a very nice day !
Nel Bouchard
(owner of a Kolb Twinstar MK II)
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| From: | Brettbernardo(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Superb Kolb MK III for sale ... |
Noel is this a Mark 3 classic or extra?
Thanks
Brett
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| From: | "Steve Spence" <sspence801(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Safe Loading Without Leading Edge Damage |
Vic:
I had same problem with my Firefly when I trailered it. Dennis Souder
suggested that I crank up trailer tongue as high as possible. That
seemed to work for me as it flattened incline from trailer bed to ramp.
Steve Spence
M3Xtra/912-S
Auburn Hills, MI
----- Original Message -----
From: Vic Peters
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Safe Loading Without Leading Edge Damage
Hey thats a nice dolly Travis.
My problem is the root end or inboard of the wing leading edge
hitting.
I need a way to keep the load -unload ramps in line with the trailer
bed. (longer legs?)
Not wider just higher. whats the average stance with steel legs
outside tire to tire?
Thanks
Vic
Maine
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| Subject: | Re: MKIIIX weld yourself cage kit? |
| From: | "tomd" <tpd47(at)earthlink.net> |
As long as I have the dimensions I can build adequate jigs out wood. Thin wall
4130 is not hard to weld.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=135803#135803
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: MKIIIX weld yourself cage kit? |
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: MKIIIX weld yourself cage kit?
> As long as I have the dimensions I can build adequate jigs out wood. Thin
wall 4130 is not hard to weld.
tomd:
Why copy someone else's work?
If you are that good, you should design your own airplane.
I think it is safe to say, most folks on the Kolb List bought their kits,
either from TNK, Old Kolb, or a private owner. We, for the most part, do
our share by supporting TNK. It is a very small company with less than a
hand full of employees. Without TNK, Kolbs would soon become extent. I
have been a Kolb owner and builder for more than 23 years. Maybe I can fly
Kolbs another 23 years if I support TNK.
Take care,
john h
mkIII - 2,700+ hours
912ULS - 140.5 hours
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| Subject: | Re: MKIIIX weld yourself cage kit? |
| From: | "Rick Lewis" <cktman(at)hughes.net> |
I'm not sure about any previous welder they may have had but I can tell you one
thing for sure, there present welder is superb. The jigging used in the cage
is complex and very rigid and I expect all cages are pretty close to identical.
I am pretty good myself at tig and mig welding but it would be hard for me
to consistently make the quality welds Dennis does.
The only reason I might want to tackle the job would be the challenge not to
save money. The Plane kit is already reasonably priced and I'm sure there really
not making a killing. If anyone really would like to save money on ther
MKIII put a VW Engine on it instead of the Rotax. :D
Rick Lewis
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| From: | "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: ADIZ Helicopter interception |
Will, How about some info about this pic? I take it from the Smiley face
that the comment is tongue in cheek, but it sure is interesting.
Rick
On 9/22/07, WillUribe(at)aol.com wrote:
>
> This is what happens when you let your buddy fly your FireStar.
>
>
> ------------------------------
> Make AOL Your Homepage.
>
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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| From: | WillUribe(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | ADIZ Helicopter interception |
Hi Rick,
Here is the message that came with the picture.
"Thanks for letting borrow your plane! Got a little lost, but these nice
people found me
Sorry, but I think they got your tail number showed up later at your
hanger, but I told them you fled! Not sure they believe me, as there is a large
black SUV with short antennas parked nearby with a couple of G-man types
watching for your return.
Regards,
Dave"
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Girard
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: ADIZ Helicopter interception
Will, How about some info about this pic? I take it from the Smiley face
that the comment is tongue in cheek, but it sure is interesting.
Rick
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| From: | <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: MKIIIX weld yourself cage kit? |
---- Rick Lewis wrote:
If anyone really would like to save money on ther MKIII put a VW Engine on it
instead of the Rotax. :D
>
> Rick Lewis
Rick L:
Would that be the only reason to put a VW engine on a MKIII?
john h
mkIII
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| From: | "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: ADIZ Helicopter interception |
Will, Ain't it great to have friends? Well, Blackwater is going to need
something to do, now. Have you considered getting a piss poor black beard
and one of those AK-47 pellet guns? That'll make you extra popular.
For the carnivore guys. It's a joke, a joke, honest. You know, makes you
smile, maybe even chuckle.
Rick
On 9/22/07, WillUribe(at)aol.com wrote:
>
>
> Hi Rick,
> Here is the message that came with the picture.
>
> "Thanks for letting borrow your plane! Got a little lost, but these nice
> people found me
> Sorry, but I think they got your tail number showed up later at your
> hanger, but I told them you fled! Not sure they believe me, as there is a
> large black SUV with short antennas parked nearby with a couple of G-man
> types watching for your return.
> Regards,
> Dave"
>
>
> *From:* owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Richard Girard
> *Sent:* Saturday, September 22, 2007 7:02 PM
> *To:* kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: Kolb-List: ADIZ Helicopter interception
>
>
> Will, How about some info about this pic? I take it from the Smiley face
> that the comment is tongue in cheek, but it sure is interesting.
>
> Rick
>
>
> ------------------------------
> Make AOL Your Homepage.
>
> *
>
>
> *
>
>
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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| Subject: | primer pump question |
Hello gang,
I have a question about the primer pump. I am getting a slight leak
around the shaft when i am priming the engine. It seems to me that any leak
could also be considered to be a air leak and reduce the pumping ability of the
pulse pump. The primer pump is the type sold by most of the suppliers to the
ultra light market and cost about $20.00. Because of this I am running the
elec. pump all the time until i replace it. What are your thoughts about the
primer pump leaks causing poor pump action? thanks in advance....Jim Swan
FIRESTAR ll 503 rotax N663S michigan
do not archive
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| From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
At 09:40 AM 9/22/2007, Wade Lawicki wrote:
>
>Group,
> We "HAD" an Ultra Star pilot argue the same point 2 years ago
> in Tullahoma Tn. at a large event. he thought it was not needed, crashed
> in front of hundreds of spectators...
Well, I went ahead and made one for mine last night, why take
chances? .040" clear vinyl held on with 2" heavy duty velcro; it actually
came out quite nice. I haven't actually flown with it yet (other than one
short crow hop; it was too windy) but it seems to be holding on just fine.
-Dana
--
--
"I'm a lawyer." "Honest?" "No, the usual kind."
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| From: | "pat ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
Hi All,
Anyone with an Xtra with the standard insrument console.
Where do you put radios, GPS etc.?
I have the small Pilot 3 GPS on top of the console. The obvious place to
put a hand held radio is either fixed to the centre arm rest or strap it
to your knee. I have a small interface block for the headsets
temporarily taped to the back end of the armrest.
What have other people done? The great visibility from the Kolb is fine
but it does limit the `wall space` for fixing othere items, map holders,
sweets etc.
Bright ideas anyone?
Cheers
Pat
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| From: | "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
You can actually attach things to the "wall" as here:
http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/Radios%20%26%20GPS.html
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
----- Original Message -----
From: pat ladd
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 6:53 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: space
Hi All,
Anyone with an Xtra with the standard insrument console.
Where do you put radios, GPS etc.?
I have the small Pilot 3 GPS on top of the console. The obvious place
to put a hand held radio is either fixed to the centre arm rest or strap
it to your knee. I have a small interface block for the headsets
temporarily taped to the back end of the armrest.
What have other people done? The great visibility from the Kolb is
fine but it does limit the `wall space` for fixing othere items, map
holders, sweets etc.
Bright ideas anyone?
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: MKIIIX weld yourself cage kit? |
| From: | "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
John H,
With all due respect to your position as probably the guy with most Kolb flying
hours, tomd's request for information about the possibility of getting a kit
of materials and detailed dimensions for welding his own, does not demonstrate
a "lack of support" for TNK. It was a legitimate question that deserves a straighforward
answer.
Also, "why not design your own plane" has nothing to do with welding up a fuselage
from good drawings. Being a retired engineer, I could probably design my own
plane that would fly but it would probably handle poorly and be a lot heavier
than necessary. I could also make excellent drawings for others to to build
it from, if they were stupid enough to try. But I'd have trouble getting two
pieces of metal to stick together with my extremely limited welding experience.
The two skill sets have nothing to do with each other.
I don't mean to start a pissing match. But tomd's request does not deserve the
kind of response you gave it.
--------
Thom in Buffalo
N221FA Allegro 2000 912UL
N197BG FS1/447
--------------------
"Setting an example is not the main means of influencing another, it is the
only means."
Albert Einstein
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| From: | "cristalclear13" <cristalclearwaters(at)juno.com> |
New Kolb Mark II owner here. Can you guys take a look at the picture I've attached
and tell me if you've seen a gap seal like the one I have? It is some kind
of cloth (I don't know what). It is velcroed onto the wings. Is that safe?
Cristal
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| From: | WillUribe(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: ADIZ Helicopter interception |
And now the rest of the story;
My FireStar was part of a multi-agency homeland security exercise over the
missile firing range in New Mexico. For the week long exercise, Dave flew it
for about 25 hours, 4 of them at night. All I can say about that is the
FireStar performed without any problems. Dave flew all his required mission and
all IP runs were made on time. Some days were flying thru some of the worst
turbulence or around thunderstorms. The only thing I have to mend is a tare
on the gap seal, the Velcro glue was old and got loose during one of the
flights.
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Girard
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: ADIZ Helicopter interception
Will, How about some info about this pic? I take it from the Smiley face
that the comment is tongue in cheek, but it sure is interesting.
Rick
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Cristal
The Kolb Firefly uses the same or similar gap seal.. Canvas or heavy
cloth with velcro... The velcro that is attached to the wing roots comes
unglued in short order...on mine anyway... Herb
writes:
>
>
> New Kolb Mark II owner here. Can you guys take a look at the
> picture I've attached and tell me if you've seen a gap seal like the
> one I have? It is some kind of cloth (I don't know what). It is
> velcroed onto the wings. Is that safe?
>
> Cristal
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| From: | "cristalclear13" <cristalclearwaters(at)juno.com> |
Hi Mike. I am currently at where you where at a couple weeks ago. I have an MKII
also and I need to know where to mount the ELT. I have the same ELT you do.
Did you get yours installed? Do you have a picture of where you put it?
Also I'm wondering where you put your colored markings on your airspeed. Do you
have those V-numbers?
Cristal
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| From: | "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart(at)onlyinternet.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Ailerons 101 |
>
>
>As an added note reference aileron flutter. Some folks think the problem
>lies with lose control linkage, hinges, pivot points, etc. Not so. The
>problem lies with big ailerons that are hinged from the leading edge and not
>balanced. Once the aileron is balanced, it flies through the air, smooth or
>rough, as slick as a whistle.
>
John, & Kolbers
The root cause of aileron flutter is the lack of wing stiffness. Due to the
fact that the wing can and does flex during flight in response to passing
through unstable air and or roll control movement, it causes the wing to
twist chord wise with the most of the movement taking place at the
unsupported outer wing tip. By doing so this tries to whip the aileron up
and down. The balancing of the aileron puts a mass ahead of the hinge equal
to aileron mass behind the hinge line and so the aileron will bounce up and
down but will not twist about the hinge due to wing twisting.
If you would like to read more about this, Google - 'NACA "aileron flutter"'
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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| From: | "beauford T" <beauford173(at)verizon.net> |
Brother (Brothette?) Cristal:
Per your question... I don't believe safety is necessarily the issue with
the nylon seal. However, I had unsatisfactory results with the Kolb
factory-provided rip-stop nylon gap seal which came in the Firefly kit... It
never actually came off, but despite my re-velcroing efforts on the aft end,
the trailing edges gradually feathered out and shredded in the slipstream
until it eventually became an unsightly mess after about 50 hours. The last
time I flew with it installed, I learned a bonus lesson about nylon and
various hot Rotax Brothers components, particularly, the exhaust... The tiny
nylon fuzz instantly melts and bakes onto every hot surface with which it
comes into contact... and the low-pressure turbulent areas behind the BRS
cannister did a superb job of sucking that little cloud of nylon thread
particles back forward enough to give a really nice spattering effect on
parts well forward of the shredding areas further aft....
Once baked on there, it took a delightful scotchbrite and sandpaper weekend
before I finally got all of that crap off the engine.
I would use asphalt roofing shingles for a gap seal before I would put
another one of those nylon thingys
on my airplane... It now has an aluminum seal, heavy velcro at the front,
bungees at the rear... 90 or so hours on the thing... no problems.... yet...
Worth what ye paid fer it...
Beauford
FF-076 / N173BW
Brandon, FL
New Kolb Mark II owner here. Can you guys take a look at the picture I've
attached and tell me if you've seen a gap seal like the one I have? It is
some kind of cloth (I don't know what). It is velcroed onto the wings. Is
that safe?
Cristal
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| From: | Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com> |
Jack,
I'll concede the root cause of aileron flutter. But, I would like to try
again. Does anyone have a photo of a balanced aireron, and possibly some
weights and dimensions. This improvement seems to be worthwhile, but for t
hose of us wanting to balance our aileron, could a couple of you craftman s
how us your stuff? Ailerons, that is. I'm certain this would be greatly a
ppreciated by more than just me.
Mike in SW Utah
> John, & Kolbers> > The root cause of aileron flutter is the lack of wing
stiffness. Due to the > fact that the wing can and does flex during flight
in response to passing > through unstable air and or roll control movement,
it causes the wing to > twist chord wise with the most of the movement tak
ing place at the > unsupported outer wing tip. By doing so this tries to wh
ip the aileron up > and down. The balancing of the aileron puts a mass ahea
d of the hinge equal > to aileron mass behind the hinge line and so the ail
eron will bounce up and > down but will not twist about the hinge due to wi
ng twisting.> > If you would like to read more about this, Google - 'NACA "
aileron flutter"'> > Jack B. Hart FF004> Winchester, IN>
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| From: | "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Ailerons 101 |
Mike, Why not just use the MkIII system. Weights and measures won't do you
much good except to ball park what you need. The MkIII fittings and the bar
may not be the most elegant, but it is adaptable to all different weights o
f
ailerons.
Rick
On 9/23/07, Mike Welch wrote:
>
> Jack,
>
> I'll concede the root cause of aileron flutter. But, I would like to
> try again. Does anyone have a photo of a balanced aireron, and possibly
> some weights and dimensions. This improvement seems to be worthwhile, bu
t
> for those of us wanting to balance our aileron, could a couple of you
> craftman show us your stuff? Ailerons, that is. I'm certain this would
be
> greatly appreciated by more than just me.
> Mike in SW Utah
>
> > John, & Kolbers
> >
> > The root cause of aileron flutter is the lack of wing stiffness. Due to
> the
> > fact that the wing can and does flex during flight in response to
> passing
> > through unstable air and or roll control movement, it causes the wing t
o
>
> > twist chord wise with the most of the movement taking place at the
> > unsupported outer wing tip. By doing so this tries to whip the aileron
> up
> > and down. The balancing of the aileron puts a mass ahead of the hinge
> equal
> > to aileron mass behind the hinge line and so the aileron will bounce up
> and
> > down but will not twist about the hinge due to wing twisting.
> >
> > If you would like to read more about this, Google - 'NACA "aileron
> flutter"'
> >
> > Jack B. Hart FF004
> > Winchester, IN
> >
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| From: | Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com> |
Rick,
I'd be happy to use the MkIII system, especially since I have a MkIII. But,
in my MkIII builder's book (Mar '98 edition), it makes NO mention of aileron
balancing, and practically nothing of even the ailerons.
Although I'm quite certain I could come up with something,.
I would still appreciate a photo or two, and if there is a reference to aileron
balancing in a later edition, or even better in an XTRA manual, I would greatly
appreciate it if someone could scan and send this updated information.
Mike Welch
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Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 12:21:20 -0500
From: jindoguy(at)gmail.com
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Ailerons 101
Mike, Why not just use the MkIII system. Weights and measures won't do you much
good except to ball park what you need. The MkIII fittings and the bar may not
be the most elegant, but it is adaptable to all different weights of ailerons.
Rick
On 9/23/07, Mike Welch wrote:
Jack,
I'll concede the root cause of aileron flutter. But, I would like to try again.
Does anyone have a photo of a balanced aireron, and possibly some weights
and dimensions. This improvement seems to be worthwhile, but for those of us
wanting to balance our aileron, could a couple of you craftman show us your stuff?
Ailerons, that is. I'm certain this would be greatly appreciated by more
than just me.
Mike in SW Utah
> John, & Kolbers
>
> The root cause of aileron flutter is the lack of wing stiffness. Due to the
> fact that the wing can and does flex during flight in response to passing
> through unstable air and or roll control movement, it causes the wing to
> twist chord wise with the most of the movement taking place at the
> unsupported outer wing tip. By doing so this tries to whip the aileron up
> and down. The balancing of the aileron puts a mass ahead of the hinge equal
> to aileron mass behind the hinge line and so the aileron will bounce up and
> down but will not twist about the hinge due to wing twisting.
>
> If you would like to read more about this, Google - 'NACA "aileron flutter"'
>
> Jack B. Hart FF004
> Winchester, IN
>
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| From: | Larry Bourne <biglar(at)gogittum.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Ailerons 101 |
Mike, mine's from about the same era, and if the components didn't come
with your kit, I know they're available from Kolb. There's a "T" that
rivets into the outboard end of the leading edge of the aileron, and a
solid steel rod that slides into that and bolts into place. The only
picture I can find of it is with the wings folded ready to load in the
trailer. It shows the "T" fittings, but the balance weight rods are
removed and a steel bar is replacing them to help hold the wings solidly
while in the trailer. Lar.
Mike Welch wrote:
>
>
> Rick,
>
> I'd be happy to use the MkIII system, especially since I have a MkIII.
But, in my MkIII builder's book (Mar '98 edition), it makes NO mention of aileron
balancing, and practically nothing of even the ailerons.
> Although I'm quite certain I could come up with something,.
> I would still appreciate a photo or two, and if there is a reference to aileron
balancing in a later edition, or even better in an XTRA manual, I would
greatly appreciate it if someone could scan and send this updated information.
> Mike Welch
>
>
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| From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)COMCAST.NET> |
| Subject: | I finally flew it! |
Patience is rewarded and I finally flew my Ultrastar today! (I don't count
yesterday's short crow hop as a flight). My only complaint is that it was
too short... as soon as I was high enough to be committed, the engine
started surging. Fortunately I only had to climb a little to be high
enough to make the sod farms south of the airport, then throttling back
smoothed things out a bit, keeping me aloft in a slow descent. Gave me
enough to go around and get it back to the runway... made a real fast steep
approach since I didn't have the opportunity to feel it out and do a few
stalls as I'd planned. Got it down OK though, my only complaint is that I
can't even say how it handled (except that it was no trouble), in that
situation you just "do it" without thinking about it.
Turns out there was an air leak at the fuel filter, which I at first
attributed to the cheap worm screw hose clamps that were on the plane when
I bought it. However, after removing them, trimming the lines, and
securing them with several wraps of safety wire, I still get air bubbles
and little fuel in the filter at full power (on the ground, of course!) As
it got dark I didn't have time to investigate further; I'm wondering if the
filter itself (the clear plastic one with the sintered bronze element that
Aircraft Spruce sells for ultralights) maybe has a leak, perhaps a bad
plastic weld... anybody ever heard of such a thing?
With luck I'll be able to get new clamps and filter on tomorrow after work,
and squeeze in a longer flight before sunset.
-Dana
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| From: | "cristalclear13" <cristalclearwaters(at)juno.com> |
Thanks for sharing your input and experiences. Just curious if there are factors
that contribute to the deterioration of the Velcro such as...are they hangered
right after flying vs. left out in the weather...do you fold the wings every
time you're done flying, thus needing to continually remove and replace the
cloth gap seal...do you live in extreme climates?
Beauford, I've never heard the term "Brothette", but if that's what you'd call
a "Mrs.", then yep, that's me.
Aviatress Cristal :D
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| From: | "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Ailerons 101 |
Mike, Sorry about that, I lost track of the type Kolb we were talking about
.
I forget what the factory charges for the kit, but Travis has them in stock
,
I'm sure. Once you see them, you'll know exactly how to set them up. Like
all things Kolb, they're pretty simple. You'll have to drill out a few of
the rivets that mount the outboard aileron hinge. I used Naval Jelly to get
a phosphate coating on the steel before I primed and painted. Balancing is
just a matter of disconnecting the drive pushrod and adjusting the steel ba
r
until the aileron lower surface is parallel to the lower surface of the
wing. Hope this helps and please excuse my poor dirty plane. Gotta get back
to serious work on her, the DAR comes next week.
Rick
On 9/23/07, Mike Welch wrote:
>
>
> Rick,
>
> I'd be happy to use the MkIII system, especially since I have a
> MkIII. But, in my MkIII builder's book (Mar '98 edition), it makes NO
> mention of aileron balancing, and practically nothing of even the aileron
s.
> Although I'm quite certain I could come up with something,.
> I would still appreciate a photo or two, and if there is a reference
> to aileron balancing in a later edition, or even better in an XTRA manual
, I
> would greatly appreciate it if someone could scan and send this updated
> information.
> Mike Welch
>
> ________________________________
> Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 12:21:20 -0500
> From: jindoguy(at)gmail.com
> To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Ailerons 101
>
> Mike, Why not just use the MkIII system. Weights and measures won't do yo
u
> much good except to ball park what you need. The MkIII fittings and the b
ar
> may not be the most elegant, but it is adaptable to all different weights
of
> ailerons.
>
> Rick
>
> On 9/23/07, Mike Welch wrote:
> Jack,
>
> I'll concede the root cause of aileron flutter. But, I would like to
> try again. Does anyone have a photo of a balanced aireron, and possibly
> some weights and dimensions. This improvement seems to be worthwhile, bu
t
> for those of us wanting to balance our aileron, could a couple of you
> craftman show us your stuff? Ailerons, that is. I'm certain this would
be
> greatly appreciated by more than just me.
> Mike in SW Utah
>
> > John, & Kolbers
> >
> > The root cause of aileron flutter is the lack of wing stiffness. Due to
> the
> > fact that the wing can and does flex during flight in response to
> passing
> > through unstable air and or roll control movement, it causes the wing t
o
> > twist chord wise with the most of the movement taking place at the
> > unsupported outer wing tip. By doing so this tries to whip the aileron
> up
> > and down. The balancing of the aileron puts a mass ahead of the hinge
> equal
> > to aileron mass behind the hinge line and so the aileron will bounce up
> and
> > down but will not twist about the hinge due to wing twisting.
> >
> > If you would like to read more about this, Google - 'NACA "aileron
> flutter"'
> >
> > Jack B. Hart FF004
> > Winchester, IN
> >
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| From: | "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: I finally flew it! |
Dana, Easy enough to check the seam on the filter for leaks, just smear a
coating of wheel bearing grease around the seam and see if the bubbles go
away. Old Harley trick to check for intake leaks.
Rick
On 9/23/07, Dana Hague wrote:
>
>
> Patience is rewarded and I finally flew my Ultrastar today! (I don't
> count
> yesterday's short crow hop as a flight). My only complaint is that it was
> too short... as soon as I was high enough to be committed, the engine
> started surging. Fortunately I only had to climb a little to be high
> enough to make the sod farms south of the airport, then throttling back
> smoothed things out a bit, keeping me aloft in a slow descent. Gave me
> enough to go around and get it back to the runway... made a real fast
> steep
> approach since I didn't have the opportunity to feel it out and do a few
> stalls as I'd planned. Got it down OK though, my only complaint is that I
> can't even say how it handled (except that it was no trouble), in that
> situation you just "do it" without thinking about it.
>
> Turns out there was an air leak at the fuel filter, which I at first
> attributed to the cheap worm screw hose clamps that were on the plane when
> I bought it. However, after removing them, trimming the lines, and
> securing them with several wraps of safety wire, I still get air bubbles
> and little fuel in the filter at full power (on the ground, of
> course!) As
> it got dark I didn't have time to investigate further; I'm wondering if
> the
> filter itself (the clear plastic one with the sintered bronze element that
> Aircraft Spruce sells for ultralights) maybe has a leak, perhaps a bad
> plastic weld... anybody ever heard of such a thing?
>
> With luck I'll be able to get new clamps and filter on tomorrow after
> work,
> and squeeze in a longer flight before sunset.
>
> -Dana
> --
> --
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>
>
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| From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
At 10:05 PM 9/23/2007, cristalclear13 wrote:
>
>
>Thanks for sharing your input and experiences. Just curious if there are
>factors that contribute to the deterioration of the Velcro such as...are
>they hangered right after flying vs. left out in the weather...do you fold
>the wings every time you're done flying, thus needing to continually
>remove and replace the cloth gap seal...
Different types of velcro are rated for different lifespans (number of
stick/unstick cycles). In general, the stronger the bond, the shorter the
life.
For mine, I found a strong bond velcro that still is good for plenty of
cycles... and has an adhesive back specifically made for flexible vinyl,
which is what I used... and sticks just great to the Stits wing covering,
which also is vinyl based.
-Dana
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| From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Ultrastar tailwheel |
Has anybody ever put a swiveling tailwheel on an Ultrastar? I find that
it's tough to maneuver my plane on a crowded airport even with brakes, and
using the brakes to force a tight turn has to put lots of stress (side
loading) on the lower fin and brace cables. I miss the detent locking full
swivel tailwheel I had on my T-Craft.
-Dana
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| From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: I finally flew it! |
At 10:14 PM 9/23/2007, Richard Girard wrote:
>Dana, Easy enough to check the seam on the filter for leaks, just smear a
>coating of wheel bearing grease around the seam and see if the bubbles go
>away. Old Harley trick to check for intake leaks.
Good idea, thanks, I'll try that... I'm going to replace it anyway, filters
are cheap, but it's nice to know for sure.
-Dana
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| From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: I finally flew it! |
Oh yeah... a few pix at
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v486/flyparafan/Kolb/
Note the gap seal too, since we're having that discussion...
-Dana
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In a message dated 9/23/2007 10:07:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
cristalclearwaters(at)juno.com writes:
Just curious if there are factors that contribute to the deterioration of the
Velcro such as...
The sun deteriorates the glue on Velcro fairly fast. Most people get rid of
the cloth gap seal pretty quick.
My plane is a FS II.
Mine is made of .060 Lexan with an aluminum leading edge & some lateral
aluminum angles & is held on with screws into the wing leading edge, industrial
Velcro along the edges, & bunjii's. It only covers the top of the wing as I like
a lot of clearance for my big head.
The best mod. I have made to my FSII is to replace the short windshield with
one that starts out the same as the shorty at the bottom [where it bolts on],
but extends all the way up to the wing. Also, because of bad knees, I trimmed
the right side of the windshield so that only one screw holds that side,
gives me about 8" more room to get my foot in. Yes, my windshield shape is
assymetrical, the plane doesn't care.The new Lexan was increased in thickness to
.090". I don't fold.
I no longer feel the wind is pushing my head back & it makes winter flying
more bearable. By the way, I live in SC.
Howard Shackleford
FS II
SC
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| From: | "boyd" <by0ung(at)brigham.net> |
At 10:39 AM 9/20/2007, boyd wrote:
>
>Dana
>Or you could make it permanent, bolt it on and forget it.
>
>Boyd
I would, but I expect to be folding the wings on a regular basis.
-Dana
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With the way I built my gap seal, I can fold the wings without removing
it.
Boyd.
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Cristal
I had 15 hours on my velcro..always hangered...always folded.. It came
loose on the top of the wing toward the engine.Both sides..
Currently working on a .016 2024 t3 sheet of Aluminum to replace the
cloth gap seal.. I do not plan to use lexan as it is much too heavy..Herb
writes:
>
>
> Thanks for sharing your input and experiences. Just curious if
> there are factors that contribute to the deterioration of the Velcro
> such as...are they hangered right after flying vs. left out in the
> weather...do you fold the wings every time you're done flying, thus
> needing to continually remove and replace the cloth gap seal...do
> you live in extreme climates?
>
> Beauford, I've never heard the term "Brothette", but if that's what
> you'd call a "Mrs.", then yep, that's me.
>
> Aviatress Cristal :D
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
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>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
At 01:07 AM 9/24/2007, boyd wrote:
>
>With the way I built my gap seal, I can fold the wings without removing
>it.
That sure sounds convenient... but I don't think it's possible on an Ultrastar.
-Dana
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| From: | "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart(at)onlyinternet.net> |
>
>Thanks for sharing your input and experiences. Just curious if there are factors
that contribute to the deterioration of the Velcro such as...are they hangered
right after flying vs. left out in the weather...do you fold the wings every
time you're done flying, thus needing to continually remove and replace the
cloth gap seal...do you live in extreme climates?
>
Cristal,
History of my center wing gap seal.
I painted the original white gap seal to match the color of the FireFly.
The thread on the original Kolb supplied trailing edge started to fail from
flapping after three hours of fight. I re-sewed the seam and inserted a
small diameter aluminum tube inside the seam to stiffen the trailing edge.
This stopped the fluttering and I had no further problems with the trailing
edge.
After 41 hours, about one year, I replaced the gap seal. I purchased light
red Dacron cloth that closely matched the color of the FireFly. I cut the
thread on the original gap seal so that I could use it as a pattern. I
re-used the original Velcro. It has been in place for the last 190 hours and
seven years. To save weight, I did not paint or seal the cloth. I keep the
back edge from fluttering by using a small piece of Velcro in the center to
attach it to the engine support tube. I did install a tube in the foremost
seam to prevent it from buzzing.
I rarely fold. The FireFly is hangared in and enclosed building out of
direct sun light. All but two years of this time the FireFly was hangared
in the Mississippi River bottoms where it was hot and humid in the summer.
I have not had any trouble with the adhesive backing on the wings. At this
time, the color shows some fading, but otherwise the gap seal in in good
shape.
I hope this helps you out.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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| From: | "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
Cristal, years ago I had a Maxair Hummer that often needed to have the wings
folded, and I had a very successful gap seal made from Naugahyde that was
semi stretchy. It would give a little when you stretched it, it had Velcro
sewed around the perimeter to attach to the various structure points. The
stretchiness allowed it to fit tightly. Based on my experience, if I were
going to use any sort of fabric instead of aluminum, I would choose
Naugahyde instead of cloth, and also sew a reinforcement into the rear edge
ala Jack Hart's method.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
----- Original Message -----
From: "cristalclear13" <cristalclearwaters(at)juno.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 10:05 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Gap Seal
>
>
> Thanks for sharing your input and experiences. Just curious if there are
> factors that contribute to the deterioration of the Velcro such as...are
> they hangered right after flying vs. left out in the weather...do you fold
> the wings every time you're done flying, thus needing to continually
> remove and replace the cloth gap seal...do you live in extreme climates?
>
> Beauford, I've never heard the term "Brothette", but if that's what you'd
> call a "Mrs.", then yep, that's me.
>
> Aviatress Cristal :D
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=136008#136008
>
>
>
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| From: | tony malins <malins2005(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Wing Support Brackets |
Thanks very much Rick, a great idea, I'll see how it goes.=0A=0ABest regard
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y, September 20, 2007 10:19:15 PM=0ASubject: Re: Kolb-List: Wing Support Br
ackets=0A=0A=0ATony=0A =0AThis is what I use as a dolly or wing fold bracke
t for use in my trailer. It might be over kill for what you want but check
it out. Note! The picture was taken before I fully covered it with carpet s
o it would show how it is made.=0A =0ARick Neilsen=0ARedrive VW powered MKI
IIC =0A----- Original Message ----- =0AFrom: tony malins =0ATo: kolb-list@m
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List: Wing Support Brackets=0A=0A=0AI am still trying to find drawings or p
hotos of a bracket system to support the wings of my M3X when folded. Any i
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Piping in
My experience tells me that just the last foot or so of velcro ,
glued to the wings, toward the engine, on the top side, is all that needs
fixing..
I figure that the gap seal is flapping a bit in flight to hasten to
the problem... Herb
writes:
>
>
> Cristal, years ago I had a Maxair Hummer that often needed to have
> the wings
> folded, and I had a very successful gap seal made from Naugahyde
> that was
> semi stretchy. It would give a little when you stretched it, it had
> Velcro
> sewed around the perimeter to attach to the various structure
> points. The
> stretchiness allowed it to fit tightly. Based on my experience, if I
> were
> going to use any sort of fabric instead of aluminum, I would choose
>
> Naugahyde instead of cloth, and also sew a reinforcement into the
> rear edge
> ala Jack Hart's method.
>
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
>
>
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: MKIIIX weld yourself cage kit? |
>
> Thank you Mr. Riddle for your input. It was certainly not my intent to
> "ruffle anyones feathers" with respect to TNK.
Thom R/tomd:
This will probably come as a big surprise, but there are no drawings for
the MKIII fuselage. The only jigs and tooling to build a MKIII fuselage are
at TNK.
It would be a very time consuming, tedious, and expensive project to
duplicate a MKIII fuselage, even by a professional aircraft fabricator in a
well equipped facility. The cost would be prohibitive, much more so than
the purchase price of a TNK MKIII fuselage.
tomd might consider purchasing a damaged MKIII to rebuild. A lot of folks
do that and there are usually a few around that have suffered from that
dreaded "Kolb quit", and in a few cases, pilot error.
Recommend tomd contact Travis at TNK to get the full story.
I also recommend we do all we can to support TNK. If it was not for this
small company, there would be no more Kolb line of aircraft. I can assure
you, TNK knows what it is like to live with a very limited budget.
Speaking of support, the Kolb Homecoming is this Friday, Saturday, and
Sunday. Can not remember which one this will be. It is the only flyin I
know of that supports the attendees, and not the other way around. You will
not have to worry about paying $8.00 for a brat and $2.00 for a bottle of
water. TNK furnishes chow for every meal throughout the event.
Hope to see you all there, especially tomd and Thom R. ;-)
BTW: This hawk (hauck) does not have ruffled feathers, nor does TNK.
john h
mkIII 2,709.8 hours
912ULS 141.3 hours
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Kolb MKII Fatality |
Just read in the FAA Preliminary Data Base:
AIRCRAFT CRASHED INTO A FIELD UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, THE ONE PERSON
ON BOARD WAS FATALLY INJURED, NEAR ATHENS, TN
I have no idea who was flying or know the owner of the MKII. Steven Green
flies out of Athens, TN. He may know the circumstances.
john h
mkIII
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FAA Registry
N-Number Inquiry Results
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N43046 has multiple records
Aircraft Description
Serial Number M2-121 Type Registration Individual
Manufacturer Name KOLB Certificate Issue Date 02/24/2005
Model MK II Status Valid
Type Aircraft Fixed Wing Single-Engine Type Engine Reciprocating
Pending Number Change None Dealer No
Date Change Authorized None Mode S Code 51223041
MFR Year 1989 Fractional Owner
NO
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Kolb MKII Fatality |
> I have no idea who was flying or know the owner of the MKII. Steven
Green
> flies out of Athens, TN. He may know the circumstances.
>
> john h
> mkIII
Sorry, system dropped the b ottom of my info:
Registered Owner
Name ROTH JERRY D
Street 5022 STUMP RD
City MARYVILLE State TENNESSEE Zip Code 37803-0747
County BLOUNT
Country UNITED STATES
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Kolb MKII Fatality |
Looks like the owner was killed in the crash.
Here is what I could find:
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/T/TN_PLANE_CRASH_TNOL-?SITE=TNMAR&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Back from Oshkosh, P51s' accident |
| From: | "Rex Rodebush" <rrodebush(at)tema.net> |
Speaking of Mustangs; check out: http://www.gml2007.com/
If you can't make TNK Fly-in and live near Columbus, Ohio; check out the Mustang
fly-in.
Unfortunately, I have another commitment so I won't be able to make either.
Rex
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| From: | Lanny Fetterman <donaho(at)uplink.net> |
| Subject: | Numidia airport, my home field! |
Hi all, My good friend George Beaver posted a few pictures of me in the
Firestar on the Numidia airport website. They were taken before I got my
N-number. It`s the only Kolb in the photo gallery if you care to check it
out. www.numidiaairport.com Lanny Fetterman N598LF PS Pretty cool
website, Great job George!
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| From: | "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Ready for the Kolb Homecoming. |
Steve
Jim Swan and I will be driving down from Michigan. I will be trailering
my Kolb, arriving sometime Thursday evening. What time is dinner?
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
----- Original Message -----
From: N27SB(at)aol.com
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 11:04 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Ready for the Kolb Homecoming in a month.
In a message dated 8/31/2007 8:25:09 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com writes:
Ready for the Kolb Homecoming in a month.
john h
mkIII
John, Don't forget about the Early Bird Custom Air Cookout.
It would be helpful if we had a rough idea of whom will be in early.
Steve
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| From: | wenquist(at)comcast.net (Walt Enquist) |
| Subject: | Re: I finally flew it! |
If you have a bing carb the surge problem may be within. Open the top end of the
carb and check
whether or not the e-clip on the jet needle is placed on the wrong side (above
or below) of the spring cup. If the e-clip is on the wrong side the engine will
surge erratically at higher rpm.
-------------- Original message --------------
From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)COMCAST.NET>
>
> Patience is rewarded and I finally flew my Ultrastar today! (I don't count
> yesterday's short crow hop as a flight). My only complaint is that it was
> too short... as soon as I was high enough to be committed, the engine
> started surging. Fortunately I only had to climb a little to be high
> enough to make the sod farms south of the airport, then throttling back
> smoothed things out a bit, keeping me aloft in a slow descent. Gave me
> enough to go around and get it back to the runway... made a real fast steep
> approach since I didn't have the opportunity to feel it out and do a few
> stalls as I'd planned. Got it down OK though, my only complaint is that I
> can't even say how it handled (except that it was no trouble), in that
> situation you just "do it" without thinking about it.
>
> Turns out there was an air leak at the fuel filter, which I at first
> attributed to the cheap worm screw hose clamps that were on the plane when
> I bought it. However, after removing them, trimming the lines, and
> securing them with several wraps of safety wire, I still get air bubbles
> and little fuel in the filter at full power (on the ground, of course!) As
> it got dark I didn't have time to investigate further; I'm wondering if the
> filter itself (the clear plastic one with the sintered bronze element that
> Aircraft Spruce sells for ultralights) maybe has a leak, perhaps a bad
> plastic weld... anybody ever heard of such a thing?
>
> With luck I'll be able to get new clamps and filter on tomorrow after work,
> and squeeze in a longer flight before sunset.
>
> -Dana
> --
> --
> "I'm a lawyer." "Honest?" "No, the usual kind."
>
>
>
>
>
If you have a bing carb the surge problem may be within. Open the top
end of the carb and check
whether or not the e-clip on the jet needle is placed on the wrong side (above
or below) of the spring cup. If the e-clip is on the wrong side
the engine will surge erratically at higher rpm.
<DIV>-------------- Original message -------------- <BR>From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)COMCAST.NET>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Dana
Hague
>
> Patience is rewarded and I finally
flew my Ultrastar today! (I don't count
> yesterday's short crow hop
as a flight). My only complaint is that it was
> too short... as soon
as I was high enough to be committed, the engine
> started surging. Fortunately
I only had to climb a little to be high
> enough to make the
sod farms south of the airport, then throttling back
> smoothed things
out a bit, keeping me aloft in a slow descent. Gave me
> enough to go around
and get it back to the runway... made a real fast steep
> approach
since I didn't have the opportunity to feel it out and do a few
> stalls
as I'd planned. Got it down OK though, my only complaint is that I
>
can't even say how it handled (except that it was n
o trou
ble), in that
> situation you just "do it" without thinking about it.
>
> Turns out there was an air leak at the fuel filter, which I at
first
> attributed to the cheap worm screw hose clamps that were on the
plane when
> I bought it. However, after removing them, trimming the
lines, and
> securing them with several wraps of safety wire, I still get
air bubbles
> and little fuel in the filter at full power (on the ground,
of course!) As
> it got dark I didn't have time to investigate further;
I'm wondering if the
> filter itself (the clear plastic one with
the sintered bronze element that
> Aircraft Spruce sells for ultralights)
maybe has a leak, perhaps a bad
> plastic weld... anybody ever heard
of such a thing?
>
> With luck I'll be able to get new clamps
and filter on tomorrow after work,
> and squeeze in a longer flight before
sunset.
>
> -Dana
> --
&
gt; --
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| From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: I finally flew it! |
At 08:56 PM 9/24/2007, Walt Enquist wrote:
>If you have a bing carb the surge problem may be within. Open the top end
>of the carb and check whether or not the e-clip on the jet needle is
>placed on the wrong side (above or below) of the spring cup. If the
>e-clip is on the wrong side the engine will surge erratically at higher rpm.
Thanks Walt, it was definitely an air leak (and it's a Mikuni carb
anyway). The problem appears to have been a bad (new out of the box from
Aircraft Spruce) primer bulb. It didn't look that way as the bubbles
appeared at the filter, but replacing both the [also new] filter and hose
clamps didn't solve it. Putting the original primer bulb back on solved
the problem. I haven't disassembled the suspect bulb yet, but it looks
like it was restricting fuel flow, so the pump was able to generate enough
suction to pull air in anywhere it could, even though tightly clamped.
With the problem fixed I enjoyed a beautiful 1/2 hour flight tonight.
-Dana
--
--
"I'm a lawyer." "Honest?" "No, the usual kind."
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| From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | 2nd US flight - yee hah! |
Well, I finally got in a good flight. The engine problem turned out to be
a bad primer bulb, presumably a blockage as the air bubbles didn't appear
until the filter, which is downstream of the bulb. This time there were no
problems at all, and I tooled around for a half hour, getting the feel of
the plane, only landing due to sunset.
It's a bit weird... all of my ultralight experience (except for PPG) is in
Quicksilvers, but the Ultrastar flies so much like a "real" airplane that
it's easy to forget it's an ultralight, until it does something
ultralight-like. Still working on getting "the picture" and judging the
glide slope (one area where it's definitely NOT like a Quick!)... I kept
overshooting. Stall is at an indicated 35, so anything the ASI says is
definitely suspect.
I think I'm gonna like this plane... :)
-Dana
--
--
"I'm a lawyer." "Honest?" "No, the usual kind."
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| Subject: | Re: Ready for the Kolb Homecoming. |
| From: | "cspoke" <cspoke(at)gulftel.com> |
Rick,
Glad to hear that you will be at the TNK homecoming with your plane. I will be
driving up from Alabama and arriving sometime Friday afternoon. I am very interested
in the VW for my Xtra. I'm looking forward to seeing everyone and meeting
new friends. See you all there.
--------
Craig Spoke
Mark 111 Xtra (in the works)
Lillian, AL
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| From: | "Steven Green" <Kolbdriver(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Kolb MKII Fatality |
John and all,
There is some speculation by locals that he became unconscious, He was 72.
Steven
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 2:47 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb MKII Fatality
> Just read in the FAA Preliminary Data Base:
>
> AIRCRAFT CRASHED INTO A FIELD UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, THE ONE PERSON
> ON BOARD WAS FATALLY INJURED, NEAR ATHENS, TN
>
> I have no idea who was flying or know the owner of the MKII. Steven Green
> flies out of Athens, TN. He may know the circumstances.
>
> john h
> mkIII
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> FAA Registry
> N-Number Inquiry Results
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> N43046 has multiple records
>
> Aircraft Description
>
> Serial Number M2-121 Type Registration Individual
> Manufacturer Name KOLB Certificate Issue Date 02/24/2005
> Model MK II Status Valid
> Type Aircraft Fixed Wing Single-Engine Type Engine Reciprocating
> Pending Number Change None Dealer No
> Date Change Authorized None Mode S Code 51223041
> MFR Year 1989 Fractional Owner
>
>
> NO
>
>
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| From: | "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Ready for the Kolb Homecoming. |
I just did a Weather Channel Internet forecast for the Kolb Homecoming.
Thursday Friday Saturday
Sct T Storm Sunny Sunny
High 77 77 80
Low 52 49 49
Precip 40% 10% 10%
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard & Martha Neilsen
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Ready for the Kolb Homecoming.
Steve
Jim Swan and I will be driving down from Michigan. I will be
trailering my Kolb, arriving sometime Thursday evening. What time is
dinner?
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
----- Original Message -----
From: N27SB(at)aol.com
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 11:04 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Ready for the Kolb Homecoming in a month.
In a message dated 8/31/2007 8:25:09 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com writes:
Ready for the Kolb Homecoming in a month.
john h
mkIII
John, Don't forget about the Early Bird Custom Air Cookout.
It would be helpful if we had a rough idea of whom will be in early.
Steve
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| From: | "tc1917" <tc1917(at)hughes.net> |
Just wanted to remind everyone that Bev and I will be arriving at TNK
probably on Wednesday. I have a 582 on my slingshot for sale. I am picking
up my new 912 at the meet. Will sell the 582 then or later. It comes
complete with everything you need to make it go. Four bolts, some wires,
gas lines and you are good to go. Mount it on your Kolb and go fly.
Approximately 185 hours on engine. You can have it with the new Warp three
blade for $6000 or with a ground adjust IVO three blade for $5500. Will
take it off and it is yours at your request. See it run and fly.
I also have a Mk III frame and boom. The frame has some damage but some
good welder -- how about the one that wants to build his own frame -- can
repair and have a good financial deal. We can make a deal for it I am sure.
By the way, I have used vinyl, cloth and whatever for gap seals on many
different Kolbs but always put a zipper in the center. Lasted a long, long
time and never ripped off. Still use the same system today. Ted Cowan.
334-480-0822, Alabama
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| Subject: | Re: I finally flew it! |
| From: | "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
Dana,
I've very glad to hear you flew without the fuel starvation problem.
The following is my 2 cents worth on primer bulbs.
Most of the primer bulb installations I've seen are either in parallel or series
with the pulse pump and therefore are being used only as a hand pump to fill
the float bowl. Why so many do it this way is a mystery to me since the purpose
of the PRIMER is to give a little squirt of fuel into the throat of the carburetor
for a quick start. Having it plumbed (either parallel or series) to the
float bowl does not accomplish this.
When I bought my Firestar it had no primer at all and took many many pulls to get
it started with the proper starting technique with the float bowl full. I bought
a high quality PRIMER bulb from West Marine and installed it ACCORDING TO
THE ROTAX MANUAL, which means it is teed off of the fuel supply line before
the pulse pump (between tank and pump) and then goes to the primer fitting on
the carburetor, which is downstream of the venturi and butterfly valve. I also
installed a shutoff valve between the tee and the primer bulb to prevent the
pulse pump from sucking air if the check valve in the primer fails.
When starting cold, I open the shutoff valve, give the bulb one squeeze (squirting
a bit of raw fuel into the throat of the carburetor), shut off the valve,
and pull the starter rope once and it starts. The whole purpose of a primer bulb
is to get a squirt of raw fuel into the intake so it will start on a single
pull when cold. Once it is running, the pulse pump quickly fills the float bowl
if it was low due to evaporation from sitting for a while. The primer bulb's
primary purpose is NOT to fill the float bowl which is all it will do if it
is plumbed the way most folks do it, contrary to the Rotax manual. Having the
primer bulb in the fuel system feeding the float bowl creates another point of
potential failure, which it sounds like maybe was the problem you had. If the
primer bulb is plumbed into the primer fitting on the carburetor and isolated
with a shutoff valve, it is not part of the fuel supply system when running.
Attached is a photo of the 2-stroke installation manual figure showing the primer
installation schematic. It shows a plunger type primer which does not need
a shut-off valve but the bulb type should have a shut-off valve to isolate it
in case of check valve failure.
--------
Thom in Buffalo
N221FA Allegro 2000 912UL
N197BG FS1/447
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"Setting an example is not the main means of influencing another, it is the
only means."
Albert Einstein
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| Subject: | Re: ELT Installation |
| From: | "ropermike" <ropermike2002(at)yahoo.com> |
Never exceed speed for Mk ll is 80 mph according to the old construction booklet
I acquired with my plane....Stall speed is about 37 mph for my little fatty,
424lbs dry plus Fuel and Pilot. Stall with passenger aboard is 40 mph...I gave
a 5 mph yellow warning before stall and before 80 mph. We have a sign shop that
builds signs for us at my work. I measured my airspeed indicator with a caliper
and had him cut me three circles, red, yellow and green. He makes signs
with vinyl and sticky backing. I carefully cut and applied the partial circles
to my indicator......ELT is mounted on a aluminum plate I riveted to the two
tubing members just behind the pilots seat. I had to move and reglue the mobile
antenna on top as I have a strobe box just beside the elt. Elt remote is installed
on panel. (see pic). The antenna was the tough one. I finally mounted it
on the top of my aluminum gap seal using a generous doubler.......N number is
on the boom tube....My inspection is scheduled for Thursday, 9-27-07. Keep fingers
crossed for me!.......Mike
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The next best thing to playing and winning is playing and losing!...Mike Hillger
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| Subject: | Re: Do you have a registered/certified Mark II Twinstar? |
| From: | "ropermike" <ropermike2002(at)yahoo.com> |
Crystalclear.......I am registering my Mk ll now that I aquired one year ago. I
got a set of plans and a construction manual with mine. It also had a lamenated
checklist with it, not sure if it is official or not. Here is what it reads:
TAKE-OFF, INFLIGHT, AND LANDING
Apply full power for climb, after airborne.
Do not exceed 80 MPH.
EGT:
Maximum 1200*
Normal 860* - 1080*
Clear engine frequently when gliding.
Idle Minimum is 2000 RPM.
Land at 45 MPH.
Idle for two minutes prior to shutdown.
As for a preflight checklist, It didnt have one. I havnt made one yet but I plan
too. You can search the Kolb list for Checklist Ideas. My email address is mhillger(at)wildblue.net.
Send me some pics of your plane. Us MK ll guys gotta stick
together..........Mike
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The next best thing to playing and winning is playing and losing!...Mike Hillger
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| From: | "pat ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
You can actually attach things to the "wall" as here:>>
Thanks Richard, I was reluctant to go down that route,what with the
complications of opening doors etc. but your brackets look good and firm
and I may have to consider your way.
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb MKII Fatality |
| From: | "Ralph B" <ul15rhb(at)juno.com> |
Steven Green wrote:
> John and all,
>
> There is some speculation by locals that he became unconscious, He was 72.
>
> Steven
>
> ---
I knew Jerry. He was originally from the Minneapolis area. He completed his Mark
II in 1989 and I test flew it for him. He had an accident in it when the 503
air cleaner became saturated with water during a rain the night before. The engine
ran rough on takeoff and he tried a downwind landing in a short field and
damaged the aircraft, but wasn't hurt.
Jerry retired and moved to Tennessee about 15 years ago and had the aircraft registered
there.
I will try and get more details about this accident.
Ralph B
--------
Ralph B
Original Firestar
N91493 E-AB
20 years flying it
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Filter E-LSA Inspection |
I have been involved in the inspection of 3 E-LSA aircraft; one fixed wing
(Hornet) and two weight shift; all by the same DAR. They have belonged to
friends but I was involved before the inspection and was there during the
inspection.
What I have seen indicates there is no standardization in the inspections,
and few absolutes as to what one needs or doesn't need. Even the same DAR
will tell you different things on different days (does it require
fuses/circuit breakers or not?).
I think the best if not only solution is to contact the DAR doing the
inspection well beforehand and ensure you know what he will be looking
for. If there is something he mentions that you don't have and don't want
to do, ask him if it's a recommendation or a mandate. There is only 1 DAR
in the entire Pacific NW so there really isn't an option of going
elsewhere.
On the last inspection the DAR said that paper fuel filters can become
completely blocked by water and recommended the use of filters without
paper, but he did not require a bypass. On the last inspection of 2
trikes, 1 had a bypass around the primer bulb and the other did not.
He also checked for locknuts on everything with at least 1 thread sticking
out, green/yellow/red limit markings on instruments, all switches labeled
for function and which way was on/off, quantity and type of all fluids,
weight/loading/balance, aircraft/engine/prop logbooks, passenger warning
placard, Experimental placard. Also seatbelts (shoulder harness not
req'd).
One thing of note he said after the first inspection was that an owner
could put himself back in Phase 1 (test). For example, the max gross on
the Hornet with a Rotax 503 would not allow a passenger over 100 pounds.
The owner could put the Hornet back in Phase 1 with a logbook entry
stating he upped the GW to XXXX pounds (+100 pounds), then fly some time
at the new max GW, make appropriate logbook entries, then log back into
phase 2 at the new GW. For Amateur built Experimentals, that requires a
trip to the FAA GADO office (twice).
Jim
N. Idaho
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| Subject: | Re: ELT Installation |
| From: | "George Alexander" <gtalexander(at)att.net> |
ropermike wrote:
>
> I measured my airspeed indicator with a caliper and had him cut me three circles,
red,
>
> My inspection is scheduled for Thursday, 9-27-07. Keep fingers crossed for me!.......Mike
Mike:
Didn't have a chance to check for a specific reference... and... your inspector
may not care.... and if s/he does, it is an easy fix.
The Vne normally is indicated by a short line placed at the appropriate point on
the ASI (your case 80 mph) and "perpendicular" to the point. It is not normally
indicated by a red arc.
Some think that this may be picking the fly dung out of the pepper, but .....
Good luck on your airworthiness inspection!
--------
George Alexander
http://gtalexander.home.att.net
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| From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: I finally flew it! |
At 07:57 AM 9/25/2007, Thom Riddle wrote:
>
>... the purpose of the PRIMER is to give a little squirt of fuel into the
>throat of the carburetor for a quick start. Having it plumbed (either
>parallel or series) to the float bowl does not accomplish this.... The
>primer bulb's primary purpose is NOT to fill the float bowl which is all
>it will do if it is plumbed the way most folks do it...
Makes sense. On my engine (Cuyuna, with Mikuni carb), there is no primer
port, but there is a choke lever. Cold, it will start on the first pull
with the choke on. Between flights, if everything is sealed well (it seems
to be, now), the fuel line should stay full, but if not (or at initial
startup), it could take an awful lot of cranking to fill the fuel system up
to and including the float bowl.
I had considered tee-ing in a bypass around the primer bulb with a couple
of check valves, but that just adds more complication and more potential
leak points. I also considered putting in a primer hole and adding a
plunger type primer, deleting the bulb, and using the plunger primer to
pull fuel up if necessary... but it'd still need a check valve to keep from
pulling fuel (or air) back from the carburetor if the float needle is open.
One option for priming could be a tee off the fuel line downstream of the
bulb, with a valve, so that when you open that valve the bulb would force
fuel into the carburetor throat, but with the valve closed it'd still be
able to fill the fuel line and bowl.
As for putting the bulb series or parallel to the pulse pump, I guess it's
a matter of which do you think is more likely-- the bulb leaking or getting
blocked?
Just random thoughts... not sure which direction I want to go.
-Dana
--
--
"I'm a lawyer." "Honest?" "No, the usual kind."
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Fuel Filter E-LSA Inspection/PLB SAR SAT |
Hi Jeff N:
Recommend you get another DAR. Seems this one has a lot of ideas of his
own he wants to make mandatory.
Fuel filter bypass. Never heard of such. If filter plugs from
contaminated fuel, no filter would certainly stop the engine.
You are right about the ELT. Single place does not require one.
PLB (Personal Locator Beach) is a good option for an ELT, especially if
you participate in more than flying. I just bought an ACR Micro Fix 406
with internal GPS. I will use it for flying, dirt biking, boating,
mountain biking, and off roading the 4WD pickup. It is registered with
my info at NOAA, SAR SAT (Search and Rescue Satelite). Fits in my
pocket, the pocket on the back of my airplane seat, strapped to my Camel
Back harness or my belt. Not cheap, but darn good insurance. Much more
effective than the old 121.5 ELT.
john h
mkIII
I am in the process of getting my Firestar KXP certified and my DAR
hasa told me that I need to have an alternate path arround my fuel
filter so I can buypass if needed. I have seen this for the Primer bulb
but not for the fuel filter. Does anyone have this in their fuel
system? He also siad I needed an ELT but I found in the regs I do not
for a single seat.
Thank You
Jeff Nelson
KXP N1655E
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| From: | "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Fuel Filter E-LSA Inspection |
Jim, Yes, you did state you were getting an E-LSA inspection, my browser
doesn't show titles in the reply box and I missed it. Here's one thing to
ask your DAR, which function code is he certificated to perform. Below are
the three that pertain to us as Kolb owners, although Code 48 won't apply
until Kolb brings out its Special Light Sport Aircraft. Perhaps your DAR
doesn't have function code 47 and is relying on his training under code 46
and treating you as if your aircraft were an E-AB.
If you have any questions, contact the FAA Light Sport Branch and let them
know of the problems you are having. Time is getting short for E-LSA
registration and the last thing they need is some well meaning guy making u
p
requirements on the fly.
Rick
(12) Code 46 =97 Issue original/recurrent special airworthiness certificate
s,
experimental, for the purpose of operating United States (U.S.)-registered
amateur-built aircraft.
(See FAA Order 8130.33.)
(13) Code 47 =97 Issue recurrent/original and replacement special
airworthiness
certificates, experimental, for the purposes of operating
U.S.-registeredlight-sport aircraft.
(Reference Order 8130.33.)
8100.8C 5/04/2007
126
(14) Code 48 =97 Issue recurrent/original and replacement special
airworthiness
certificates for U.S.-registered light-sport category aircraft and special
flight permits for
production flight-test operations. (Reference Order 8130.33.)
On 9/25/07, Jim Dunn <jim@tru-cast.com> wrote:
>
>
> I have been involved in the inspection of 3 E-LSA aircraft; one fixed win
g
> (Hornet) and two weight shift; all by the same DAR. They have belonged t
o
> friends but I was involved before the inspection and was there during the
> inspection.
>
> What I have seen indicates there is no standardization in the inspections
,
> and few absolutes as to what one needs or doesn't need. Even the same DA
R
> will tell you different things on different days (does it require
> fuses/circuit breakers or not?).
>
> I think the best if not only solution is to contact the DAR doing the
> inspection well beforehand and ensure you know what he will be looking
> for. If there is something he mentions that you don't have and don't wan
t
> to do, ask him if it's a recommendation or a mandate. There is only 1 DA
R
> in the entire Pacific NW so there really isn't an option of going
> elsewhere.
>
> On the last inspection the DAR said that paper fuel filters can become
> completely blocked by water and recommended the use of filters without
> paper, but he did not require a bypass. On the last inspection of 2
> trikes, 1 had a bypass around the primer bulb and the other did not.
>
> He also checked for locknuts on everything with at least 1 thread stickin
g
> out, green/yellow/red limit markings on instruments, all switches labeled
> for function and which way was on/off, quantity and type of all fluids,
> weight/loading/balance, aircraft/engine/prop logbooks, passenger warning
> placard, Experimental placard. Also seatbelts (shoulder harness not
> req'd).
>
> One thing of note he said after the first inspection was that an owner
> could put himself back in Phase 1 (test). For example, the max gross on
> the Hornet with a Rotax 503 would not allow a passenger over 100 pounds.
> The owner could put the Hornet back in Phase 1 with a logbook entry
> stating he upped the GW to XXXX pounds (+100 pounds), then fly some time
> at the new max GW, make appropriate logbook entries, then log back into
> phase 2 at the new GW. For Amateur built Experimentals, that requires a
> trip to the FAA GADO office (twice).
> Jim
> N. Idaho
> ---------------------------------------
>
>
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===========
===========
>
>
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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| From: | "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: ELT Installation |
Mike, You didn't mention the DEA tag (they don't call it that, but it is in
fact). It must be:
made of stainless steel (aluminum isn't considered fire proof).
It must contain the following information:
Manufacturer
Model
Serial Number
The information must be EXACTLY as it's printed on your registration hard
card. You do not have to use anyone's manufactured tag, you can make it
yourself. I bought a set of 1/8th steel stamps from Harbor Freight so I
could make them as needed and not have to go to an engraving shop. This has
been covered in previous posts, and as was noted then, the information on
the tag MUST be EXACTLY as it is on the hard card. You can guess why the
blob is on the upper right corner of this one from my trike.
Rick
On 9/25/07, ropermike wrote:
>
>
> Never exceed speed for Mk ll is 80 mph according to the old construction
> booklet I acquired with my plane....Stall speed is about 37 mph for my
> little fatty, 424lbs dry plus Fuel and Pilot. Stall with passenger aboard is
> 40 mph...I gave a 5 mph yellow warning before stall and before 80 mph. We
> have a sign shop that builds signs for us at my work. I measured my airspeed
> indicator with a caliper and had him cut me three circles, red, yellow and
> green. He makes signs with vinyl and sticky backing. I carefully cut and
> applied the partial circles to my indicator......ELT is mounted on a
> aluminum plate I riveted to the two tubing members just behind the pilots
> seat. I had to move and reglue the mobile antenna on top as I have a strobe
> box just beside the elt. Elt remote is installed on panel. (see pic). The
> antenna was the tough one. I finally mounted it on the top of my aluminum
> gap seal using a generous doubler.......N number is on the boom tube....My
> inspection is scheduled for!
> Thursday, 9-27-07. Keep fingers crossed for me!.......Mike
>
> --------
> The next best thing to playing and winning is playing and losing!...Mike
> Hillger
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=136314#136314
>
>
> Attachments:
>
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> http://forums.matronics.com//files/elt_202.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/as_ind_796.jpg
>
>
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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| From: | Bob Noyer <a58r(at)verizon.net> |
My 4-pharty-7 used to take 5-6 smart pulls to start, but after T-ing
one of Mark Smith's tiny primers into fuel line coming out of tank,
and one or two thumb-pushes of the primer, she(?) starts on first
pull. The primer is a black rubber(?) half dome, less than an inch
dia./high. Not wanting to run fuel lines way up to the IP, I mounted
it on a small bracket abt shoulder high on the rt. cage "vertical"
diagonal. Too short in arms to reach panel anyhow. And line goes
directly to carb throat, through existing fitting.
regards,
Bob N. FireFly 070 Old Kolb
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/
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| From: | WillUribe(at)aol.com |
Here are pictures of some of the repair I have to make.
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| From: | LEE CREECH <dcreech3(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | faa "inspections" |
I had a local "designated inspector", or whatever they're called, take the
same issue with that "bolt" on my Firestar -- which is actually a welded-u
p part of the airframe, not functionally a bolt at all, but he was reluctan
t to acknowledge that obvious fact. Apparently since it began life as a bo
lt, it can never be anything else, and therefore requires a nut. I saw it
as a rather humorous illustration of the bureaucratic mind-set.
Lee
Firestar II > Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 16:13:27 -0400> From: a58r(at)verizon.net
> Subject: Kolb-List: faa "inspections"> To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com> > -->
Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Noyer > > Several years
ago during a fly-in I had an encounter with a > 'friendly' who insisted th
at I put a nut on a welded bolt at upper > aileron/flaperon hinge/pushrod o
n my FireFly. Bolt can't move, turn, > or come out..and hinged part can't l
eave! Ran a ESN on and he smiled.> > regards,> Bob N. FireFly 070 Old Kolb>
=======> > >
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| From: | "Jeremy Casey" <1planeguy(at)kilocharlie.us> |
| Subject: | Homecoming flyin |
Well if the weather holds as forecast, will aviate to the Kolb
Homecoming flyin. Won't be "Kolb'in" as the little project is
languishing behind a new roof and a runway extension.but will be
admiring the other planes. Should have a couple of flying buddies with
me as well.look forward to a couple of good days of flying and
conversatin'.
Jeremy Casey
P.S. John H. do we still want to have the VG demonstration/fly-off? ;-)
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| From: | "boyd" <by0ung(at)brigham.net> |
I have never seen an ultrastar.... but unless it folds differently than
the mkIIIc it should be possible.
Boyd
>
>With the way I built my gap seal, I can fold the wings without removing
>it.
That sure sounds convenient... but I don't think it's possible on an
Ultrastar.
-Dana
--
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Homecoming flyin |
Hi Jeremy:
Good to hear you are coming to the Kolb Homecoming.
By all means. I would love to see how my old fat gal will perform
against...........which airplane? the S7? Be a good comparison between
VGs/pusher/and puller.
That means I need to arrive at Labhart field with near empty fuel tank,
change the 8.00X6's to 5X6's, take out the left seat, radio, gps, plb,
seat covers, stick grip, and the dip stick. Probably could drain a
quart of oil and still be on the safe side. The ELT will come out in
the morning because I got a PLB. That'll save 5 lbs right there.
Plan on marrying up with John B and John W in Muscle Shoals, AL,
tomorrow evening. RON Muscle Shoals and fly the rest of the way to
Labhart Field Thursday.
James T is flying up in his FSII Thursday morning.
Take care,
john h
mkIII
Jeremy Casey
P.S. John H. do we still want to have the VG demonstration/fly-off?
;-)
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| From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
At 07:46 PM 9/25/2007, boyd wrote:
>
>I have never seen an ultrastar.... but unless it folds differently than
>the mkIIIc it should be possible.
The US does fold differently... the pivot is on the front fitting; the
upper surface faces inwards (and trailing edge down) when folded.
Actually I'm quite pleased with the clear vinyl and velcro gap seal I
made. I like being able to look up and back through it, and as the vinyl
is stiffer than fabric, it doesn't flutter at all.
-Dana
--
--
"I'm a lawyer." "Honest?" "No, the usual kind."
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| From: | =?ISO-8859-1?Q?No=EBl_Bouchard?= <noelbou(at)vif.com> |
| Subject: | Kolb MK III Extra for sale (more infos / Picts) |
Hello all Kolbers !
I have received some more information for my fiend's
beeautiful MK III wxtra and also a few pictures.
Kolb mark III extra 2004, rotax 912 ,
prop warpdrive, 150 tt,
dual control,
dual oil wheel break,
elevator trim,
2 fuel pump,
gascoletor,
intercom,
flaps,
one instrument
panel, cruise 80 mph @ 5,000 rpm, 1300 fpm solo, 3 gph,
The plane is in Montreal, Canada
and the asking price is: $32 000
Pictures:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kolb_flying/
The 5 first pictures ..
The rest are a selection of picture i have taken
around Montreal flying my 1990 TwinStar MK II with Rotax 503 ...
Thanks and ... safe flying
Noel Bouchard
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| Subject: | Re: ELT Installation |
| From: | "cristalclear13" <cristalclearwaters(at)juno.com> |
Thanks for the information and pictures Mike. I have a cloth gap seal...don't
know where I could put my antenna. My Mark II is fully enclosed but there is
no divider between the seats and the gas tanks. Someone suggested putting a brace
around the very front of the boom tube and mounting the ELT there and perhaps
putting the antenna behind that.
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| Subject: | Re: Homecoming flyin |
In a message dated 9/25/2007 8:37:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com writes:
Plan on marrying up with John B and John W
WoW John, last time I talked to you, You said you were not getting Hitched
Agin.
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| From: | "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
| Subject: | Re: Homecoming flyin |
Not only that, it sounds like some sort of polygamy thing.
Sigh... The country is going to the dogs.... Sigh...
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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In a message dated 9/25/2007 8:37:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com writes:
Plan on marrying up with John B and John W
WoW John, last time I talked to you, You said you were not getting
Hitched Agin.
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Was the aftermath of the flight more interesting than usual?
Or just more challenging?
Richard Pike
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| From: | "pat ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
Pat, what armrest?>>
Hi Vic,
I have a piece of metal fitted over the rod from the stick to the
aileron. It is about 18" long and 3" wide on the flat top and has side
cheeks bent down to enclose the aileron rod.
About the only place anything can be atached on the Xtra. Poor ergonomic
design where everything was sacrificed to produce the fantastic
visibilty and that admittedly very shapely nose.
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: ADIZ Helicopter interception |
| From: | "Dave Rains" <RangeFlyer72(at)yahoo.com> |
Kudos though since you lasted the week without getting shot down.
Nobody got "shot down" Not the purpose
There must be some sort of Plaque or Trophy for that feat right?
Paycheck $$$$
Guess those Coast Guard boys don't aim very well.
That would be a fatal guess
Skeeter
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: TNK Homecomming 2007 - Here I Come |
> I guess I have to get married in Muscle Shoals , AL later today and
arrive at TNK with the family tomorrow just after lunch.
>
> See all of you there.
> John Williamson
Morning John W:
I'll be out of here right after lunch.
Will take about two hours flight time to "marry up" with you and John B.
;-)
Looking forward to seeing all the Kolb folks at Labhart Field tomorrow.
Yesterday I checked the float bowls on the 912ULS. One had three drops of
crud, the other had one drop, as the result of moisture. When I scratched
the blackish brown colored grung with my finger nail, little flakes broke
off that may or may not have been pulled all the way through the main and
needle jet. The main jet well fence was doing its job. None of the "stuff"
had hopped the fence and gotten into the well. I try to pull the carb float
bowls at least once a month. I must admit, I got lazy and did not pull them
for about two months. This is an easy way to have an engine failure. No
matter how good the 912 series engines are, contaminated fuel will put them
down. Play safe.
john h
mkIII
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| From: | "John Codd" <j.codd(at)btopenworld.com> |
| Subject: | Space for radio mounting |
Hi Pat, I assume that you are using an Icom radio as do most of us here
in the Uk, if so there is space to mount it on the left of the main
instrument pod, mounted in this position it doesn't interfere with
getting in and out of the cockpit, and also it is clear of your
legs/knees when flying, in this position it is very readily accessible,
if you need photos of how I did mine, post me your e-mail address and
I'll send you a couple of photos.
John Codd Sandtoft UK.
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| Subject: | FS II on barnstormers |
| From: | "lucien" <lstavenhagen(at)hotmail.com> |
All,
more pics and info on my FS II are on barnstormers:
http://www.barnstormers.com/ad_manager/ad_detail.php?ID=197832
It's killing me to sell him, but I just can't figure out a way to keep him.....
This sucks.... So I want a good Kolb owner/home for him....
LS
--------
LS
FS II
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| From: | "pat ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Space for radio mounting |
Hi Pat, I assume that you are using an Icom radio as do most of us here
in the Uk, >>
Hi,
I do indeed use an Icom, bought from John Hauck incidentally. I would
greatly appreciate any instructions, pics etc.
Thanks in anticipation
Pat
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| From: | "pat ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Space for radio mounting |
post me your e-mail address and I'll send you a couple of photos.>>
Sorry John,
I missed that bit.
Here it is
pj.ladd(at)btinternet.co.uk
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Space for radio mounting |
Patrick:
John can attach them to a post to the Kolb List and we can all benefit
from the photos.
john h
mkIII
----- Original Message -----
From: pat ladd
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Space for radio mounting
post me your e-mail address and I'll send you a couple of photos.>>
Sorry John,
I missed that bit.
Here it is
pj.ladd(at)btinternet.co.uk
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| From: | "pat ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Space for radio mounting |
John can attach them to a post to the Kolb List and we can all benefit
from the photos.
Right John,
either way suits me if he can do that
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: ELT Installation |
| From: | "cristalclear13" <cristalclearwaters(at)juno.com> |
I've attached a drawing (BTW-I'm NOT an artist or an engineer :) ) of what I'm
talking about.
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Cristal
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| From: | LEE CREECH <dcreech3(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | Space for radio mounting |
Can anyone offer any suggestions as to what headsets work best (in a Kolb F
irestar context) with an Icom radio? I'm replacing my old Yaesu radio whic
h went kaput, but now find that my old Lightspeed Solo headset (which I rea
lly like, for its quietness) won't work with the new Icom A6 radio! ( it DO
ES work with the older Icom A3, but that's beside the point, since they're
no longer sold) . . . I've pretty much accepted that I'm going to have to
buy a new headset too . . . Any suggestions?
Lee
Firestar II
From: pj.ladd(at)btinternet.comTo: kolb-list(at)matronics.comSubject: Re: Kolb-Li
st: Space for radio mountingDate: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 16:46:53 +0100
John can attach them to a post to the Kolb List and we can all benefit from
the photos.
Right John,
either way suits me if he can do that
Pat
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| From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Space for radio mounting |
At 08:35 PM 9/26/2007, LEE CREECH wrote:
>Can anyone offer any suggestions as to what headsets work best (in a Kolb
>Firestar context) with an Icom radio? I'm replacing my old Yaesu radio
>which went kaput, but now find that my old Lightspeed Solo headset (which
>I really like, for its quietness) won't work with the new Icom A6 radio!
Lee, you probably need a mike amplifier, along with whatever plug adapters
are necessary. I'm pretty sure (gonna try it tomorrow if I don't go
flying) that my Comtronics helmet won't work with my new A24 (same as the
A6 but with VOR), but an electronics guru friend sketched up a simple amp
circuit to boost the helmet mike to the signal level the A6/A24 is
expecting. If it works I'll make it available.
Some good information on communications equipment at:
http://www.aerialpursuits.com/comms/menu.htm
-Dana
--
--
"I'm a lawyer." "Honest?" "No, the usual kind."
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| From: | "pat ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Space for radio mounting |
Hi Bill,
thanks for taking the trouble but unfortunately I have the central stick
set up. I should have mentioned that, I suppose.
thanks anyway
Pat
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| From: | "boyd" <by0ung(at)brigham.net> |
| Subject: | Space for radio mounting |
At 08:35 PM 9/26/2007, LEE CREECH wrote:
>Can anyone offer any suggestions as to what headsets work best (in a Kolb
>Firestar context) with an Icom radio? I'm replacing my old Yaesu radio
>which went kaput, but now find that my old Lightspeed Solo headset (which
>I really like, for its quietness) won't work with the new Icom A6 radio!
Lee, you probably need a mike amplifier, along with whatever plug adapters
are necessary. I'm pretty sure (gonna try it tomorrow if I don't go
flying) that my Comtronics helmet won't work with my new A24 (same as the
A6 but with VOR), but an electronics guru friend sketched up a simple amp
circuit to boost the helmet mike to the signal level the A6/A24 is
expecting. If it works I'll make it available.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
With the radio I am using... sporties A300 I had to decrease the mike
gain to keep the background noise to a minimum.
Boyd
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| From: | "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com> |
This thread was a lot of great information on gap seals, I would have expected
some decrease in performance, but was surprised how bad it was. Has anyone ever
flown a MK III Xtra without the gap seal ??? Given what I have read, I would
fly without the gap seal, but it would be nice to know. I would think that
the 912-S would have enough power fly fine without it, but it wont be me testing
that theory :)
Mike
--------
"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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| Subject: | Re: Space for radio mounting |
Old Frugal Herb had a radio like that...100 dollar amp was
needed....So---I unhooked the internal mike and brought a couple of
shielded wires out of the case and used the regular non amplified mike.
By the way...bro Pike... how did the 30 dollar noise reduction , wally
world head set work? No reason why it should not..
I am waiting for them to go on sale! :-) Herb
>
> At 08:35 PM 9/26/2007, LEE CREECH wrote:
> >Can anyone offer any suggestions as to what headsets work best (in
> a Kolb
> >Firestar context) with an Icom radio? I'm replacing my old Yaesu
> radio
> >which went kaput, but now find that my old Lightspeed Solo headset
> (which
> >I really like, for its quietness) won't work with the new Icom A6
> radio!
>
> Lee, you probably need a mike amplifier, along with whatever plug
> adapters
> are necessary. I'm pretty sure (gonna try it tomorrow if I don't go
>
> flying) that my Comtronics helmet won't work with my new A24 (same
> as the
> A6 but with VOR), but an electronics guru friend sketched up a
> simple amp
> circuit to boost the helmet mike to the signal level the A6/A24 is
> expecting. If it works I'll make it available.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> With the radio I am using... sporties A300 I had to decrease
> the mike
> gain to keep the background noise to a minimum.
>
> Boyd
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| From: | "R. Hankins" <rphanks(at)grantspass.com> |
Here is my gap seal eaxperience:
I began with 1/8 clear vinyl attached with 2" self-adhesive velcro. I do not know
if this velcro had vinyl compatible adhesive. It worked well for 19hrs.
I parked the plane in the summer sun for a little too long, and the velcro on
the gap seal itself oozed out of position from the heat.
I ordered an actual cloth seal from TNK after that. It lasted for two years and
100hrs of flying. This was the lightweight nylon.
At 119 hrs, I removed the velcro from the wings and replaced it with non-self-adhesive
velcro glued on with poly-tac. I made sure the velcro on the wings extends
nearly a foot past the ends of the seal top and bottom.
I ordered another gap seal from TNK to replace the first and was pleasantly surprised
to find it made of different material. The current cloth seal is made
from heavy duty sail material (the sailboat variety) and is tough as nails. I
have had several homebuilders ask about sources for this cloth because of its
quality.
I now have over 300 hrs on this last gap seal with no maintenance needed. I fold
every time I fly. I believe the key to long lasting velcro is using poly-tack
to glue it to the wings and making sure the ends extend well past the gap-seal.
I would extend it past the seal at least a foot on the bottom of the wing
and just run the velcro all the way to the trailing edge on the top of the
wing.
Hope this helps...
--------
Roger in Oregon
1992 KXP 503
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Roger
When you say "run all the way to the trailing edge on the top" ; I
think you have hit on the solution.. I will give it a try...
I tried using poly tac cement as a repair and did not have much
luck...Likely the reason is in the first sentence..My wing root attached
velcro stopped a foot and a half short of the trailing edge..Herb
writes:
>
>
> Here is my gap seal eaxperience:
> I began with 1/8 clear vinyl attached with 2" self-adhesive velcro.
> I do not know if this velcro had vinyl compatible adhesive. It
> worked well for 19hrs. I parked the plane in the summer sun for a
> little too long, and the velcro on the gap seal itself oozed out of
> position from the heat.
>
> I ordered an actual cloth seal from TNK after that. It lasted for
> two years and 100hrs of flying. This was the lightweight nylon.
>
> At 119 hrs, I removed the velcro from the wings and replaced it with
> non-self-adhesive velcro glued on with poly-tac. I made sure the
> velcro on the wings extends nearly a foot past the ends of the seal
> top and bottom.
> I ordered another gap seal from TNK to replace the first and was
> pleasantly surprised to find it made of different material. The
> current cloth seal is made from heavy duty sail material (the
> sailboat variety) and is tough as nails. I have had several
> homebuilders ask about sources for this cloth because of its
> quality.
> I now have over 300 hrs on this last gap seal with no maintenance
> needed. I fold every time I fly. I believe the key to long lasting
> velcro is using poly-tack to glue it to the wings and making sure
> the ends extend well past the gap-seal. I would extend it past the
> seal at least a foot on the bottom of the wing and just run the
> velcro all the way to the trailing edge on the top of the wing.
>
> Hope this helps...
>
> --------
> Roger in Oregon
> 1992 KXP 503
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=136792#136792
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| From: | "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
Or you can sew it on. If your velcro is over a rib or structural member,
glue it on and then sew it also, wrapping your "thread" around the
structural member and the velcro or going through the velcro. The last time
I sewed velcro on, I used safety wire. Stainless steel wire resists U/V real
well...
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
----- Original Message -----
From: "R. Hankins" <rphanks(at)grantspass.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 12:18 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Gap Seal
I believe the key to long lasting velcro is using poly-tack to glue it to
the wings and making sure the ends extend well past the gap-seal. I would
extend it past the seal at least a foot on the bottom of the wing and just
run the velcro all the way to the trailing edge on the top of the wing.
>
> Hope this helps...
>
> --------
> Roger in Oregon
> 1992 KXP 503
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=136792#136792
>
>
>
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| From: | "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
| Subject: | Re: Space for radio mounting |
Funny you should ask, I just got done modifying the jack box in the MKIII so
I can listen to both VHF & the mp3 player on the trip to Chestnut Knolls
Saturday. It works real well, cuts the noise a lot and lets you hear ATC or
your mp3 player as well. A little extra hassle putting in the earbuds before
you put the headsets on, but I'm used to it, have been using the same noise
canceling gizmo w/earbuds for several months now when motorcycle riding, and
I just take it for granted.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
----- Original Message -----
From: <herbgh(at)juno.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Space for radio mounting
>
> Old Frugal Herb had a radio like that...100 dollar amp was
> needed....So---I unhooked the internal mike and brought a couple of
> shielded wires out of the case and used the regular non amplified mike.
>
> By the way...bro Pike... how did the 30 dollar noise reduction , wally
> world head set work? No reason why it should not..
>
> I am waiting for them to go on sale! :-) Herb
>
>
>>
>> At 08:35 PM 9/26/2007, LEE CREECH wrote:
>> >Can anyone offer any suggestions as to what headsets work best (in
>> a Kolb
>> >Firestar context) with an Icom radio? I'm replacing my old Yaesu
>> radio
>> >which went kaput, but now find that my old Lightspeed Solo headset
>> (which
>> >I really like, for its quietness) won't work with the new Icom A6
>> radio!
>>
>> Lee, you probably need a mike amplifier, along with whatever plug
>> adapters
>> are necessary. I'm pretty sure (gonna try it tomorrow if I don't go
>>
>> flying) that my Comtronics helmet won't work with my new A24 (same
>> as the
>> A6 but with VOR), but an electronics guru friend sketched up a
>> simple amp
>> circuit to boost the helmet mike to the signal level the A6/A24 is
>> expecting. If it works I'll make it available.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>
>> With the radio I am using... sporties A300 I had to decrease
>> the mike
>> gain to keep the background noise to a minimum.
>>
>> Boyd
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| From: | "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com> |
Mike, it's not about horsepower, it's about bad aerodynamics. This is
particularly true Go to the NACA archives and do some research on the
subject (not the easiest thing to do, I admit, but it can be done). This is
very old news and here we are in the 21st century discussing what was
already researched by the second decade of the 20th.
Ask yourself, and do a little research on the subject, how many aircraft are
manufactured today, and in the last 50 years for that matter, without gap
seals? Disregard ultralights which were by and large built 5% by innovators
like Homer and 95% by rip off artists, IMHO.
Rick
On 9/27/07, JetPilot wrote:
>
>
> This thread was a lot of great information on gap seals, I would have
> expected some decrease in performance, but was surprised how bad it
> was. Has anyone ever flown a MK III Xtra without the gap seal ??? Given
> what I have read, I would fly without the gap seal, but it would be nice to
> know. I would think that the 912-S would have enough power fly fine without
> it, but it wont be me testing that theory :)
>
> Mike
>
> --------
> "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have
> !!!
>
> Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=136781#136781
>
>
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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| From: | gary aman <gaman(at)att.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Space for radio mounting |
Pat,
I'm not familiar with your aircraft but on my mark 3c I mounted the icom on the
back of the windshield at the top by the steel U shaped frame.I bent a 2" wide
10" long piece of lexan almost double, so it would stand on a table in the
shape of the letter A,then slipped it over the steel frame one leg flat on the
windshield face,the other hanging down the inside not quite parallel to the
back of the windshield.Cut out a small rectangle to clear the back of that flat
loop on the radio battery and velcroed the radio to the lexan.Attached the A
frame lexan to the frame with 3 rivits,ran the wires around the frame and down
past the flap handle support to the hot box .I have a fiber glass fairing between
the windshield and wing leading edge so it may be different on yours.
pat ladd wrote: Hi Bill,
thanks for taking the trouble but unfortunately I have the central stick set
up. I should have mentioned that, I suppose.
thanks anyway
Pat
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| From: | "John Codd" <j.codd(at)btopenworld.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Space for radio mounting |
Hi Pat, I went down to Sandtoft Airfield today to do the first 25hr
service/oil change etc on the 2200 Jabiru on my Mk3 Extra, as promised I
took some photos of the radio/gps setup in my plane, as you will see the
Icom Ic-A24E radio is attached to the left hand side of the instrument
pod, this is well out of the way when getting in and out and also does
not interfere when flying, the main support is a mobile phone mounting
on an 8"flexible which has a suction cup for mounting to the console,
additional support for the top end of the mount is in the form of a tie
wrap attaching the top end of the flexible to the small metal plate on
the left of the instrument pod (just slacken the two fixing screws a
touch and thread the tie wrap through) tie wrap all cables and leads to
the flexible support, works a treat, firm support for the radio and
easily accessible, as for your previous enquiry regarding antennas, the
Lynx short flexible VHF antenna works fine although we are getting
better results with an antenna from Montreal, Canada, the Miracle Whip
Antenna, this is a 1/2 wave diapole antenna against the Lynx's 1/4 wave,
it certainly produces superior clearer reception, the manufacturers web
site is www.miracleantenna.com the mount for the radio was bought from
e-bay, they still have some if you're interested in their e-bay shop at
tradehunter.co.uk, current e-bay item number is 5810187139, I know that
you have your gps mounted on the top of your instrument pod, but just
for interest I use an HP Ipaq with moving maps for gps with the small
gps receiver mounted on the top of the pod and the Ipaq mounted in a
flexible mount similar to the radio attached to the top of the
windscreen so that the gps is at eye level and at the correct distance
for the reading part of my specs, it may not suit all but it all works
for me, I heard today from Mike Moulai that you have now received your
permit to test from the PFA with test flights hopefully scheduled for
next week, hope all goes well and you are back in the air soon. if you
need to contact me off list my e-mail address is j.codd(at)btopenworld.com.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Hauck
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Space for radio mounting
Patrick:
John can attach them to a post to the Kolb List and we can all benefit
from the photos.
john h
mkIII
----- Original Message -----
From: pat ladd
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Space for radio mounting
post me your e-mail address and I'll send you a couple of photos.>>
Sorry John,
I missed that bit.
Here it is
pj.ladd(at)btinternet.co.uk
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronic
s.com/Navigator?Kolb-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
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| From: | "olendorf" <olendorf(at)gmail.com> |
I few comment regarding the gap seals.
1. I think everyone is mostly right. Some think it flies fine without a gap seal
and some think it hardly flies. In my experience it barely flies and I will
never do it again. However I think the issue may be due to the fact that everyone
has a different windshield arrangement. With the shorty windshield the
air comes up right through the bottom of the wing. With a full windshield the
air tends to go over the wing more. Maybe this is why we see the differing opinions.
2. The self stick velcro barely sticks. I used Pliobond which is contact cement
for polytone. It didn't work as well as I would have liked so I used regular
contact cement and that works great.
3. I would devise some method of mechanically attaching the ends of the velcro
on the gap seal to the wing. I put small aluminum tubes on my wing rib sticking
out about 3/4". Then I put the gap seal over the tubes. On top of that I put
a washer and a safety pin. I used the same method when I changed over to the
lexan gap seal I have now.
p.s. I really like this new spell checker Matt added to the forum.
--------
Scott Olendorf
Original Firestar, Rotax 447, Powerfin prop
Schenectady, NY
http://KolbFirestar.googlepages.com
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| Subject: | N177RM became an aircraft today! |
| From: | "ropermike" <ropermike2002(at)yahoo.com> |
I mailed my paperwork in to the FAA to register my N177RM as E-LSA on 8-15-07.
My Mk ll completed the flight worthy inspection today, 9-27-07. I have 5 hrs to
fly off.......My DAR didn't like my prop bolts, didn't have enough threads showing.
He said my ELT remote, needed the battery expiration date labeled on
it even though I had it listed in my logbook. He wanted me to safety wire my carb
bowl clips to the engine to keep them from coming lose until I told him it
was part of my preflight to check for water in bowls and would have to rewire
them every time, then he said not to worry about it since I checked the clips
every time I flew...... He was very thorough, used flashlight and mirror, but
was helpful as he had owned and flew planes like this before. Generally it was
a good experience.....He told me the big rush to certify ELSA's the FAA had
anticipated was not happening. Ive got a feeling used parts might be a little
cheaper next year!....I know I feel so much better knowing Big Brother will be
watching me now!.....All in all, Im glad I got off my lazy butt and got it done......Mike
--------
The next best thing to playing and winning is playing and losing!...Mike Hillger
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb MKII Fatality |
| From: | "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com> |
I don't believe that water in the air cleaner from a rain shower earlier in the
day would have caused the 503 engine to run rough. I have flown my MK III through
rain, and no problem with the filters getting wet, even sucking water inside
them.
Even if the filters were totally soaked with water, any water would have been very
well sucked out of them before the airplane even broke ground at full throttle.
Mike
--------
"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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| Subject: | Kolb Twinstar Should I get it? |
| From: | "grantr" <grant_richardson25(at)yahoo.com> |
A guy has a 1987 model kolb twinstar for sale it is a 2 seat side by side with
a 503 dcdi with 101 hours with a new culver prop , NEW BRS 5, windshield, fuel
tank, lines,& pump also has had all control cables and A/N hardware replaced
read to fly. He has flown about 12 hours in the past month. It has no brakes
and is pullstart has N# but needs inspected to get LSA finished .
He bought the plane from the original owner. Kit was bought in 1987 and finished
in 1989. Unknown hours on airframe but second engine is at 101 hours. No corrosion
ever found, fuselage was blasted and epoxy painted in May 2007. No damage
history known. Original fabric stits process, few patches due to minor holes,
mostly from original owner folding wings by himself.
He is asking $7500
Its about a 650 miles trip one way so if i go I intend to buy not look!
What do you guys think?
Is the twin star a good built/ flying airplane? I am a tad concerned over the age
of the plane.
How about the fabric its 20 years old. Would you recommend replacing the fabric?
How much would it cost to recover the wing and tail?
Does the new kolb support parts for this airplane?
Does anyone have a spec sheet for this plane?
How about the ELSA? Since he has the N number will I have plenty of time to finish
the registration?
Thanks,
Grant
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| Subject: | Re: N177RM became an aircraft today! |
| From: | "cristalclear13" <cristalclearwaters(at)juno.com> |
Congratulations Mike!
I hope my MK II inspection goes as well as yours!
There are a couple guys around here who haven't sent in their paperwork for their
ELSAs. I keep encouraging them to get on the ball. There may be a last minute
rush yet.
--------
Cristal
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Twinstar Should I get it? |
| From: | "cristalclear13" <cristalclearwaters(at)juno.com> |
It being built in the late 80's my guess is it is a Mark II Twinstar rather than
a Mark III (the seating area is much smaller in the Mark II, don't know the
inches). The New Kolb co. doesn't make the Mark II anymore. If you call Travis
(606 862 9692) at Kolb he might fax you a spec sheet, but that's all the info
he has on a Mark II. I bought my Mark II on Sept. 8th and brought it home...sent
the registration paperwork in on Sept. 13th and saw my registration completed
online on Sept. 24th...have yet to see any official paperwork from FAA
though. I've contacted a DAR to start the inspection process. I'm pretty sure
I'll get my inspection done before the Jan. 31st deadline. If you hurry, I
think you'd have time.
I'm hoping I can still get parts for my Mark II...I haven't even asked anyone that
question yet! I know the boom tail had been replaced on mine and it has the
New Kolb name on it so I think you could get parts from them...at least some
parts.
If you find out for sure it is a Mark II, do a search on Ropermike author in this
forum...he put a lot of helpful information about the Mark II in the forum.
My Mark II cost me $8000 and I don't have a BRS, but I do have an electric start. My Rotax 503 engine is only a DCSI. If he isn't willing to do the airworthy inspection (which is probably why he's selling it), then I'd try to talk him down. If he doesn't sell it, it'll be a fancy yard ornament as Mike Huffman (DAR) says in his articles. However, if he does take it through the inspection you can expect that price to go UP. Take a look at Mike Huffman's articles on his website and you can see what all is involved in getting inspected. He has written articles for EAA magazine. Go to www.sportavaitionspecialties.com and click on the "Articles" link.
As I was looking for a plane to buy one guy told me "Don't buy a pig in a poke."
My plane was over 700 miles away but I had the chance to "stop by" on a trip
to see my folks and give it a good look before making plans to buy it. I figured
if it wasn't there the next weekend when I could actually pick it up, then
it wasn't meant to be.
My fabric has patches but I don't think it's 20 years old. I have no history of
when mine was built or when things were replaced. Without any logs it's just
the seller's word anyways. When buying an older aircraft I would go with the
assumption you MAY have to put 1/4 to 1/2 the cost of the aircraft into the
plane for upgrades/repairs/etc.
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Cristal
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Twinstar Should I get it? |
| From: | "grantr" <grant_richardson25(at)yahoo.com> |
Cristal,
Where are you from in GA?
Here are the pics of the plane. What do you guys think?
(http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6735325)
(http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6735332)
(http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6735321)
(http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6735329)
(http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6735334)
Now here is another Twinstar built in 1985 for the same price with 3 year old
wing fabric but has a rotax 532.
(http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6735311)
(http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6735312)
(http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6735315)
(http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6735314)
(http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6735313)
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Twinstar Should I get it? |
| From: | "cristalclear13" <cristalclearwaters(at)juno.com> |
That's good news. Thanks for the information.
I am in Waycross, Georgia. You probably saw my You Tube video (if you are the
same "grant" that sent me a message there) of my Kolb:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=9S6TfLBvqus
My pictures were actually the ones the seller posted on barnstormers. Once I get
her fixed up (although she doesn't need much work), I'll be making some new
pictures.
I saw one similar to the first picture you posted on barnstormers...they wanted
$5000, but they were up in South Dakota.
The second plane you posted looks like it has been customized a bit.
Where are you located? Open cockpit is comfortable flying in the south. Mine
is enclosed but has lots of "air holes". :)
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Cristal
Mark II Twinstar
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| From: | "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: N177RM became an aircraft today! |
Mike, Getting with the program must vary quite a bit by area. When the MIDO
guys came to our EAA chapter meeting last week the E-LSA guy told how he
he'd done 17 PPC's in one day!
For you guys out there dithering on this, it's time to **** or get off the
pot.
Rick
On 9/27/07, ropermike wrote:
>
>
> I mailed my paperwork in to the FAA to register my N177RM as E-LSA on
> 8-15-07. My Mk ll completed the flight worthy inspection today, 9-27-07. I
> have 5 hrs to fly off.......My DAR didn't like my prop bolts, didn't have
> enough threads showing. He said my ELT remote, needed the battery
> expiration date labeled on it even though I had it listed in my logbook. He
> wanted me to safety wire my carb bowl clips to the engine to keep them from
> coming lose until I told him it was part of my preflight to check for water
> in bowls and would have to rewire them every time, then he said not to worry
> about it since I checked the clips every time I flew...... He was very
> thorough, used flashlight and mirror, but was helpful as he had owned and
> flew planes like this before. Generally it was a good experience.....He told
> me the big rush to certify ELSA's the FAA had anticipated was not happening.
> Ive got a feeling used parts might be a little cheaper next year!....I know
> I feel so much better k!
> nowing Big Brother will be watching me now!.....All in all, Im glad I got
> off my lazy butt and got it done......Mike
>
> --------
> The next best thing to playing and winning is playing and losing!...Mike
> Hillger
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=136920#136920
>
>
> Attachments:
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> http://forums.matronics.com//files/p9260039_158.jpg
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>
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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| From: | "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: N177RM became an aircraft today! |
Mike, Getting with the program must vary quite a bit by area. When the MIDO
guys came to our EAA chapter meeting last week the E-LSA guy told how he
he'd done 17 PPC's in one day!
For you guys out there dithering on this, it's time to **** or get off the
pot.
Rick
On 9/27/07, ropermike wrote:
>
>
> I mailed my paperwork in to the FAA to register my N177RM as E-LSA on
> 8-15-07. My Mk ll completed the flight worthy inspection today, 9-27-07. I
> have 5 hrs to fly off.......My DAR didn't like my prop bolts, didn't have
> enough threads showing. He said my ELT remote, needed the battery
> expiration date labeled on it even though I had it listed in my logbook. He
> wanted me to safety wire my carb bowl clips to the engine to keep them from
> coming lose until I told him it was part of my preflight to check for water
> in bowls and would have to rewire them every time, then he said not to worry
> about it since I checked the clips every time I flew...... He was very
> thorough, used flashlight and mirror, but was helpful as he had owned and
> flew planes like this before. Generally it was a good experience.....He told
> me the big rush to certify ELSA's the FAA had anticipated was not happening.
> Ive got a feeling used parts might be a little cheaper next year!....I know
> I feel so much better k!
> nowing Big Brother will be watching me now!.....All in all, Im glad I got
> off my lazy butt and got it done......Mike
>
> --------
> The next best thing to playing and winning is playing and losing!...Mike
> Hillger
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=136920#136920
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/p9260039_158.jpg
>
>
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Twinstar Should I get it? |
| From: | "grantr" <grant_richardson25(at)yahoo.com> |
I am in Plains, GA. I work in Americus.
Ive been through Waycross a few times going to Savannah. I will be heading to St
Simmons soon for a work conference.
yes I am the same guy. I watch that add for a while. I almost called the guy but
I was a bit weary of it be the older model.
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| From: | "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Quick things to look for after you've inspected the outside |
of the plane
I learned all this the hard way, take it for what it's costing you.
You've looked at the outside of the plane, and it's in okay condition.
Here's three areas that can really burn up time fixing.
Look at the electrical system. Is it a clean install, or a batch of patches
and inline fuse holders. Use the Rotax Installation manual to determine if
the rectifier/regulator has the ballast required if necessary. One needs a 1
amp load, the other doesn't. Are there grounds to airframe all over the
place or is there the minimum to handle the loads. My personal limit is
three, one for the engine, one for the battery, and one for the instrument
panel.
Next look at the fuel system. Bing recommends replacing fuel lines every two
years. Are the lines firm when you squeeze them or soft and squishy (yeah
it's a high tech term, but it works). Does the system design look like it
had a plan in mind, or was it put together as a series of after thoughts?
Pull off the carb tops, what do the needles look like, do they spin in the
clips? Are the latest spring cups installed? Are the little O-rings in place
and in good condition. How about all the rubber covers? Shiny and new
looking or weathered and split.
Last look at the control cables. Most people use two nicos. Are they in
line, or twisted? Do the cables lay flat against each other between the
nicos (bubbles)? Is there any sign of wear, broken strands, or corrosion?
Are they stainless steel or galvanized?
Rick
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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| Subject: | Re: Quick things to look for after you've inspected the outside |
| From: | "lucien" <lstavenhagen(at)hotmail.com> |
jindoguy(at)gmail.com wrote:
>
> Last look at the control cables. Most people use two nicos. Are they in line,
or twisted? Do the cables lay flat against each other between the nicos (bubbles)?
Is there any sign of wear, broken strands, or corrosion? Are they stainless
steel or galvanized?
>
This is a good point and an important thing to look for on the Kolb and any airplane
for that matter.
stainless steel cable has a slightly lighter appearance to it than the correct
galvanized steel cable that should be used on installations that go around pullies
like on the Kolb. So you can often recognize SS cable by its bright appearance.
Galvanized has a more zinc-like color to it, a bit darker.
Do NOT use SS cable for control cables on the Kolb - SS cable will start to break
strands where it goes around the pullies under the seat (on my FS II anyway)
as early as 20 hours after installation. Don't ask me how I know this......
To check the condition of the cables on a Kolb, run your fingers (or at least a
piece of cloth) over the cables right where they run into the pully grooves (under
the seat on my FS II). Any broken strands will immediately snag on the rag
(or jab your finger, ouch!). Even one strand broken means the cable is unairworthy
and should be replaced before the plane is next flown.
Also, look at the type of nicopress sleeves used - galvanized cable ends should
be made only with the copper nicos. These sleeves are NOT the correct ones to
use with SS cable, there's a special type of plated sleeve that has to be used
on SS cable, the problem is a dissimilar metal corrosion issue, not one of strength.
Finally, splices in control cables are OK, believe it or not, as long the technique
used to make the splice is one of those outlined in AC 43.13. So make sure
any splices are done correctly, again using the right sleeves or hardware....
Anyone who comes to look at my plane, I'll show you how to examine all this....
LS
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LS
FS II
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| From: | "Richard Girard" <jindoguy(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Richard Pike's web site |
There are times when I feel like my brain is mired in molasses. No, not the
exhaust end of the burrowing rodent, the thick sweet stuff out of which my
dear departed grandma made the best cookies. But that's another story.
While poking around the net, I came upon Rick's site. All I can say is thank
you. there are so many ideas and inspirations there, I read through it all
and enjoyed it thoroughly. For those who haven't seen it you really owe it
to yourself. If I'm the last one to find this site, and I wouldn't be a bit
surprised, oh well.
http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/kolb.htm
Rick
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Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
September 07, 2007 - September 28, 2007
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