Kolb-Archive.digest.vol-hh
March 09, 2008 - March 24, 2008
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| Subject: | Re: Gearbox Recall |
| From: | "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot1(at)tx.rr.com> |
If you are going to cry "wolf", at least do it with the right words.
Rotax released a "Service Bulletin", SB-912-056 UL and SB-912-056.
As stated earlier, you can get the SB at the Rotax Owners website or you can get
it straight from Rotax at:
http://www.rotax-aircraft-engines.com/pdf/dokus/d04129.pdf
I prefer to use the factory site for all my documentation.
Glad to hear that we have an authorized Rotax service center in AZ.
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John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolbra, 912ULS, 1580 hours
http://home.tx.rr.com/kolbrapilot
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| Subject: | Repairman (LSA) - Inspection/Airplane |
| From: | "Jim ODay" <jimoday(at)hotmail.com> |
Reporting in on the Repairman / E-LSA process:
Completed the EAA SportAir Workshop course at Oshkosh this weekend. Learned a
lot and scored 98% on the test (I did not know where cables are most likely to
break) Now I need to present my application at the FSDO and I am all set.
16 Hours of class and lab, 50 question exam, and 16 E-LSA owners in the class.
It was a fun time as well as educational.
There was one other Kolb drive from Omaha there too. He has never heard of the
Kolb List, but it is understandable because he does not use the Internet either.....
yikes. The class encouraged him to get on-line and get networking.
Fly safe,
Jim
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Jim O'Day
Fargo, ND
Firestar II
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| From: | william sullivan <williamtsullivan(at)att.net> |
Everyone keeps wondering what oils are the same. Someone once told me to check
the "Mil-Spec" number on the container. If they match, it is okay to use. I don't
know if this is true- John H. can you help on this? I heard this while working
in the trucking business.
Bill Sullivan
old FS
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
Bill S:
I don't have the slightest idea. That is why I asked the question
earlier.
john h
mkIII
Everyone keeps wondering what oils are the same. Someone once told me
to check the "Mil-Spec" number on the container. If they match, it is
okay to use. I don't know if this is true- John H. can you help on this?
I heard this while working in the trucking business.
Bill Sullivan
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| From: | <apilot(at)surewest.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Firestar Videos and VG's |
Is the angle of 15 degrees into the relative air up or down? And is the relative
air the air that comes up the airfoil or the direct air from the path of the
aircraft? Thanks, Vic
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| From: | "lucien" <lstavenhagen(at)hotmail.com> |
[quote="williamtsullivan(at)att.n"]Everyone keeps wondering what oils are the same.
Someone once told me to check the "Mil-Spec" number on the container. If
they match, it is okay to use. I don't know if this is true- John H. can you help
on this? I heard this while working in the trucking business.
Bill Sullivan
old FS
> [b]
That's only if the application requires an oil or fluid that meets a mil-spec ("military
specification" I believe). I.e., certain brake fluids in general aviation
aircraft, etc.
The engine oil grades we use in our Rotaxen are specified by the American Petroleum
Institute (API) and aren't generally milspec grades.
I.e., SF, SG...SM and so on are API service grades for automotive engine oiles
of the type we use in our 912's,
It's all spelled out in painful detail on the API website, for instance for motor
oils:
http://www.api.org/certifications/engineoil/categories/index.cfm
LS
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LS
FS II
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| From: | DAquaNut(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: MZ 34 engine |
Jack,
How is your MZ 34 installation going with the Firefly?
Ed D. ( FF # 62 With Wing repaired finished ready
to take to the hangar )
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| Subject: | Re: Gearbox Recall |
| From: | "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1(at)yahoo.com> |
No "wolf", but a fact and and a slip of the tongue.
Being accused of "crying wolf" is a little harsh when some one wants to help people.
After I heard Rotax state what the compliance was on AD's, SB's ,SI's and SL's
I was along with others dumbfounded that usually only 20%-50% comply. Anything
above 25% is a lot they said. Most don't even bother to send in a warranty card
for their engine. So my intention was to try and help those who would like
it done or who might not have heard about the Gearbox SB. Rotax flips the bill.
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Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
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| From: | Lanny Fetterman <donaho(at)uplink.net> |
Scott, I used car fog lights. I am usually out of the air before it is dark
enough for them to be of any help landing. However, I do turn them on when
I enter the pattern so I am more visible. My pilot buddies say they look
nice. I also flash them at other GA aircraft that are coming head on at me,
to make sure they see me. They were worth it in my opinion, however the
main reason I put them in the FSII, is I needed more weight in the nose of
the airplane. I figured that every ounce helped. Lanny FS598LF
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| From: | Thom Riddle <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Rotax Oil Penzoil |
Roger,
Pennzoil CHANGED THE NAME(and thus the label) of the 2-stroke oil for
air cooled engines to something with "outdoor" in it. They DO NOT have
a single oil formulation being currently sold with two different
names! Your statement that they are simply relabeling is misleading.
Also, the 912ul engine compression ratio is 9.0:1 not 8.5:1.
Thom in Buffalo
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| From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Rotax Oil Penzoil |
At 07:42 AM 3/10/2008, Thom Riddle wrote:
>Pennzoil CHANGED THE NAME(and thus the label) of the 2-stroke oil for
>air cooled engines to something with "outdoor" in it. They DO NOT have
>a single oil formulation being currently sold with two different
>names! Your statement that they are simply relabeling is misleading.
They changed the name of the "air cooled 2-stroke" oil to "outdoor", but
the "watercooled" product is/was something different. Whether it's
_really_ anything different I don't know, but it would make sense that the
formulation would be different for an outboard engine running at lower
temperatures (cooled as it is by a steady supply of cold water) as opposed
to an aircooled engine running at higher temperatures.
Either way, I would think that the air cooled ("outdoor") oil would be a
better choice for a water cooled Rotax since the operating conditions are
closer to those of an air cooled engine than an outboard. When you think
about it, a watercooled Rotax on a plane IS air cooled... just indirectly.
-Dana
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| Subject: | Re: Registering an AB Kolb |
| From: | "Ralph B" <ul15rhb(at)juno.com> |
Start with a copy of FAA form 8050-1 from your local FSDO. Ask them if you need
to fill out the 8050-1 or 8050-2. Then call the local MIDO office and have them
send you the Amateur Registration packet for free. Find the local DAR in your
area to help you through the process.
Basically, it's easy to fill out the 8050 form, but you need to fill it out properly
or the FAA will reject it and the process will take a long time.
EAA does have an Amateur-Built packet that can lead you through the steps too for
$12.99. Don't confuse it with the E-LSA packet, as that deadline expired on
1-31-08. There is no deadline for E-AB registration.
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Ralph B
Original Firestar
N91493 E-AB
21 years flying it
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| From: | BMWBikeCrz(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Gear box upgrade |
If Rotax changes design to a gearbox before it can be installed do they
charge for the upgrade(E Box split cone etc...)
Dave
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| Subject: | Re: Gearbox Recall |
| From: | "Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL" <Dennis.Kirby(at)kirtland.af.mil> |
<< I am an authorized and certified Rotax service center. Roger Lee
Tucson, Az >>
Roger - Nice to know. Thanks for passing on the info to this List.
It amazes me to see how slow the FBO industry is to ramp up to becoming
"authorized" service centers for Rotax engines, especially with the new
wave of Light Sport Aircraft being delivered, where nine out of ten of
'em use the 912. At last count, I think there are barely a dozen
authorized Rotax service centers serving the US.
Last summer, when I called the aircraft repair shop at one of our local
airports to ask them if they were qualified to work on a Rotax engine,
the mechanic asked, "What's that - a go-cart engine?" (Sheesh!)
It would be nice if I could take my 912 to a local airport FBO if I ever
needed any heavy service, rather than 1000 miles away. Roger's shop in
Tucson is "only" 450 miles from where I live - a much better option for
me!
Dennis Kirby
M-3, 912ul, in
Cedar Crest, NM
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| Subject: | Re: Gear box upgrade |
| From: | "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1(at)yahoo.com> |
Hi Dave,
Unfortunately Rotax looks at each case separately. If it is a safety issue then
probably yes. If it is just a change then it might or might not be. You will
need to call a Rotax distributor on your specific issue. Sorry, probably not the
answer you were looking for. Hopefully a nice distributor will do it for you.
Never hurts to ask.
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Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
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| Subject: | Re: Gearbox Recall |
| From: | "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1(at)yahoo.com> |
Hi Dennis,
Anytime you need something let me know if I can help. I feel the same way as there
are not enough LSA specific services available. That's one of the reasons
I started to take all the schooling I could over the last few years. I retired
from the fire department so now I have lots of time on my hands to learn. I have
people fly in from TX, NM, CO, UT, NV and CA for work. For some I fly in with
my plane and another pilot sometimes and ferry the other persons plane back
to Tucson if need be. I have a CT to ferry over from El Paso area next week
for a gear set change out.
(5 gear sets in the next 2 weeks) I hope I can continue to offer people quick reliable
service. I don't come close to claim I know it all, but I continually
go to schools trying to learn more. I couldn't find a person to do dynamic prop
balance's either so now I do those as well. That was an OUCH for the equipment,
$4K. I'm trying to specialize in LSA and experimental service work. I have
been contacted by some of the LSA MFG's to do their service work in this area.
I'm getting ready to fly up to Albuquerque soon for fun and to have lunch with
a few LSA & CT guys. I let you know if you would like to join us.
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Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Mounting landing lights |
> A. Do you think they were worth adding? I'll be daylight VFR only but it
does get harder to judge distance to the ground between sunset and civil
twilight.
>
> B. Can you tell me at what angle in relation to the wing or fuselage you
> have them mounted.
>
> C. Did you use aviation landing lights? Or did you use automotive fog or
> driving lights.
> Thanks,
>
> --------
> Scott
Hi Scott:
A. If you think you may be caught out after dark, a landing light is nice
to have.
You want have any problem judging distance if you can see what you are
trying to judge to. ;-)
B. I have no idea of what angle. My light has a lot of adjustment
capability. It is mounted between the main gear legs, which works out great
when set for a taxi light in the 3 pt stance, then it is also is adjusted
correctly for a landing light in the landing configuration.
C. I used a lot of different lights over the years on my mkIII. The best
is the KC Off Road Running light I am now using. It is powered with a
replaceable 100W halogen replaceable bulb. Was easy to fabricate a couple
ss mounting tabs.
john h
mkIII
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Gearbox Recall |
I have a CT to ferry over from El Paso area next week for a gear set change
out.
> Roger Lee
Roger L:
Ronnie Smith and I changed out my gear set and reshimmed the gear box in
less than an hour. He did the heavy stuff while I cleaned up the flanges
for resealing.
Wouldn't it be a little more cost effective to take your tools to El Paso,
use a local press, rather than make several flights back and forth from your
place to El Paso?
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Gearbox Recall |
| From: | "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1(at)yahoo.com> |
Hi John,
Normally yes I could, but he needs his engine mounts changed out (rotted) and that's
about 2-3 hours and you have to use an engine lift to slide the engine forward
about 8". I will also do a dynamic balance for him while it is here. (He's
82 years old and would rather I come get it.) I just make a breakfast run
out of it. It takes me roughly 2.3 hours to fly there. I'm a customer service
type of person. The other 4 guys that need gear set change outs need other work
done, too. A CT and a few of the other LSA's takes me about 2 hours from start
to stop (that's ready to fly) to do a gear set change. Most guys seem to want
the quick turn around and less down time than to send it in and have the shipping
delay flight time. They just make a fun trip out of it.
I would prefer my shop just in case I need any extra tools and I have a nice hydraulic
press to make my life easy to do the gear set.
Kind of like the home court advantage.
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Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
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| Subject: | Re: Gearbox Recall |
| From: | "Nelson, Craig" <craig.nelson(at)heraeus.com> |
Rogere How much is a slipper clutch for the 912s installed?
Uncle craig
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Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 9:36 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Gearbox Recall
Hi Dennis,
Anytime you need something let me know if I can help. I feel the same
way as there are not enough LSA specific services available. That's one
of the reasons I started to take all the schooling I could over the last
few years. I retired from the fire department so now I have lots of time
on my hands to learn. I have people fly in from TX, NM, CO, UT, NV and
CA for work. For some I fly in with my plane and another pilot sometimes
and ferry the other persons plane back to Tucson if need be. I have a CT
to ferry over from El Paso area next week for a gear set change out.
(5 gear sets in the next 2 weeks) I hope I can continue to offer people
quick reliable service. I don't come close to claim I know it all, but I
continually go to schools trying to learn more. I couldn't find a person
to do dynamic prop balance's either so now I do those as well. That was
an OUCH for the equipment, $4K. I'm trying to specialize in LSA and
experimental service work. I have been contacted by some of the LSA
MFG's to do their service work in this area.
I'm getting ready to fly up to Albuquerque soon for fun and to have
lunch with a few LSA & CT guys. I let you know if you would like to join
us.
--------
Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=168818#168818
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| From: | "Denny Rowe" <rowedenny(at)windstream.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Rotax Oil Penzoil |
Dave,
I run Penzoil air cooled in my 2SI 690L-70 and it likes it. :-)
Dennis Rowe
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Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 7:47 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Rotax Oil Penzoil
Anyone running "aircooled" oil in thier watercooled motors I want to
use my left over fuel from flying in my outboard motor ...Dave
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| From: | "pj.ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Vamoose for Sale |
I'm tentatively planning a trip to Newfoundland/Labrador next year>>
Hi Lar,
I have always had a yen to see that tide in the Bay of Fundy.....
All the best
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Gearbox Recall |
| From: | "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1(at)yahoo.com> |
Hi Craig,
Give me a call at 520-574-1080 or email me at ssadiver1(at)yahoo.com.
I'd like to fly up and visit, too.
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Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax Oil Penzoil |
| From: | "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1(at)yahoo.com> |
Hi Thom,
According to the marketing guys you get on the phone you are 100%right. They make
everything special. Talk to the engineers behind those guys down in the trenches
and get a different story. I heard it both ways when I did an oil study
5 years ago. I never talk to marketers on a phone anymore. They only tell you
what they were told or is written in front of them. I got burned once or twice
and have learned to dig deeper past the hype.
I believe I had corrected that post for 9:1 compression within a couple of minutes
of posting. I'll double check.
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Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax Oil Penzoil |
I don't think you'd have any problems running the Pennzoil "Aircooled" 2 stroke
oil in an outboard. The Aircooled product is made to lubricate under the much
tougher conditions (i.e. higher temps) of aircooled engines, such as chainsaws,
weedwackers, etc.
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Jim
N. Idaho
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| From: | FlyColt45(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Mounting landing lights |
Scott,
Dick Kuntzleman just came out with led landing lights now - that use
minimal amps and are brighter than anything out there. He's a Sun & Fun "best
craftsmanship" award winner for his KOLB MKII.
Should call or e mail him. I bought a set for my plane and love them.
Jim Cote
SE PA & SE FL
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| From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Rotax Oil Penzoil |
At 04:58 PM 3/10/2008, jim wrote:
>I don't think you'd have any problems running the Pennzoil "Aircooled" 2
>stroke oil in an outboard. The Aircooled product is made to lubricate
>under the much tougher conditions (i.e. higher temps) of aircooled
>engines, such as chainsaws, weedwackers, etc.
Not saying it's the case here, I really don't know, but I can visualize an
oil formulated for the higher temperatures of an air cooled engine sludging
or carboning up in a cooler running water cooled outboard... or an oil
formulated for a cooler running not lubricating as well in a hotter engine.
-Dana
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax Oil Penzoil |
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax Oil Penzoil |
In a message dated 3/10/2008 6:18:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
N27SB(at)aol.com writes:
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| From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Rotax Oil Penzoil |
Hmmm, makes me wonder if the new "Outdoor" oil (whether or not it's the oil
that's new or just the packaging) is intended to replace both their "air
cooled" and their "outboard" oil.
'Course I knew some guys that used nothing but generic TC-W3 oil from West
Marine in the 503 on their Quick with no troubles that I know of.
-Dana
At 06:15 PM 3/10/2008, N27SB(at)aol.com wrote:
>348ba9.jpgPennzoil Multi-Purpose 2-Cycle Premium Engine Oil..
>
>A high performance 2-cycle engine oil meeting or exceeding the warranty
>requirements of all leading manufacturers of 2-cycle products including
>chain saws, lawn mowers, motorcycles and string trimmers, as well as
>outboard engines made by: Johnson/Evinrude, Mercury Marine, Yamaha,
>Suzuki, Nissan, Force/US Marine, Mariner, Sears and all other
>manufacturers requiring NMMA TC-W3...
--
"If yew ain't livin' on th' edge, yer takin' up too much room!"
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| Subject: | Re: Mounting landing lights |
| From: | "lucien" <lstavenhagen(at)hotmail.com> |
I just bought an Aerosun 1600 LED landing light for installation on my titan. The
landing lights I have draw way too much power and I want something brighter
closer to the ground.
It's going under the nose in front of the nosewheel as soon as I can get the preliminary
wiring stuff out of the way.
with 8 LED's it's at least as bright as a big halogen general aviation landing
light, maybe more judging by hooking it up to a car battery. But the current draw
is tiny at about 2 amps.......
It's pricey but I really need a good low-current light that's bright as the jeepers....
I'll let ya'll know how it works out once I get it installed on the plane....
LS
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LS
FS II
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=168938#168938
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax Oil Penzoil |
| From: | "lucien" <lstavenhagen(at)hotmail.com> |
Dana wrote:
> Hmmm, makes me wonder if the new "Outdoor" oil (whether or not it's the oil that's
new or just the packaging) is intended to replace both their "air cooled"
and their "outboard" oil.
>
> 'Course I knew some guys that used nothing but generic TC-W3 oil from West Marine
in the 503 on their Quick with no troubles that I know of.
>
> -Dana
>
>
Look at the API spec on the bottle, that'll tell you which oil grade you have.
The TCW-III grade is primarily a standard for lubricating water-cooled 2 strokes.
API TC grade is a tougher standard intended for lubing air-cooled motors.
The TCW-III spec does specify a miniimum lubrication ability for air-cooled engines,
tho, so it will work fine in an air-cooled engine as well. It's not as stringent
as the TC spec tho...
LS
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LS
FS II
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=168939#168939
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| From: | "Dan G." <azfirestar(at)cox.net> |
| Subject: | Re: aileron bellcrank and pulleys |
The spades are an interesting idea. Has anyone tried extending the
ailerons outboard and forward of the wing tips like on some of the old
biplanes? (see photo) This would would make the forces lighter at all
airspeeds and could provide some of the couterbalance - but I don't know
how it would affect flutter.
Dan G.
503 F2
Tucson
JetPilot wrote:
>
>Very nice work Mike, I really like that idea ! My ailerons get " Springy " due
to the long torque tubes on the trailing edge of the wing that actuate them
twisting under flight loads. I get maybe 10 degrees or less aileron travel
in the air, while I am getting 30 degrees or more on the ground. Your modification
will eliminate this problem, and keeping the wings foldable, thats just
a bonus.
>
>Being that my plane is already flying, it would be difficult to change to a cable
system, so I am trying a different approach. I am installing spades on the
ailerons to bring down the forces to where the long aileron tubes do not twist
anymore. I really like the idea of having a MK III with light, responsive
ailerons.
>
>Mike
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: axle fittings |
| From: | "Jim ODay" <jimoday(at)hotmail.com> |
The "beefed up" parts with .120 wall came out in 2001. The new parts were shipped
with kits after this time.
The parts were changed due to reports of cracked and/or broken parts in service.
The new part has no reports of problems per TNK.
It is a direct replacement part and they cost $47.50 each + S&H. I ordered a pair
today.
Fly safe,
Jim
The pic at this link is the OLD part -
http://myweb.cableone.net/oday/Kolb/Wheel%20Brake.jpg
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Jim O'Day
Fargo, ND
Firestar II
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=168992#168992
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| From: | "James, Ken" <KDJames(at)berkscareer.com> |
I'm building a garage this summer (YA!!), and I still working on My
MkIII Extra (Hence the reason for the garage, I need room to work)
I have a roll on car carrier which I'm going to covert to my Aircraft
carrier for my MkIII extra. Anyway my question is this. Would someone
who has a MKIII extra on a car carrier measure the distance from ground
to highest part of plane so I can ensure proper door height. My plan is
to have two doors one at each end of the garage so I can drive through
and drop off.
Anyway if building this Kolb has taught me anything is measure, measure,
measure, then cut. So I only want to cut the Garage doors once!!!
Thanks
Ken James
Drafting Design Technology Instructor
Berks Career and Technology Center - West Campus
1057 County Rd.
Leesport, Pa 19533
610-374-4073 ext 4518
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| From: | greg(at)skyelink.com |
Gary lost your ph# going flying this week wonted to see if you wonted to
go please give me a call. 804 529 7578 work 804 450 6200 cell thanks Greg
Allison
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| From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
At 01:26 PM 3/11/2008, KOLB AIRCRAFT wrote:
>
>
>THE NEW KOLB SELLS THE ALUM. GEAR LEG, 70.00 EACH . CALL OR E-MAIL TO
>PLACE YOUR ORDER. THANKS DONNIE AT KOLB.
Donnie, what about the bolt on retrofit for the UltraStar?
-Dana
--
1. Programmers are expensive.
2. Press releases are cheap.
3. Therefore, it's cheaper to explain the bug than to fix it.
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| Subject: | Not Kolb (but Kolb like) Videos |
Hello All,
I just stumbled across these videos of some low flying over the southlands.
Sure makes me want spring to arrive!
http://www.aircam.com/videos.htm
Jason
MKIII
Portland OR
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| From: | "Steven Green" <Kolbdriver(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | ANR Headset Upgrade |
I had planned to have an ANR headset for this summer but hated to pay
the price. I had decided to do the upgrade, that some have discussed
recently, to my passive headset. While looking for some hearing
protection for a problem area at work I ran across a set of ANR ear
muffs for use in industrial environments and they even had a 3.5mm audio
input jack. Wow only needs a mic. Specs. are 26db NRR passive and 20
db NRR active in the 100 to 200 hz range. The ANR range is 20 to 1000
but is rated at 20 db from 100 to 200 hz.
The UPS truck dropped off a package today and I went to work. I mounted
the mic from an old headset to the battery cover which required drilling
one hole. I also made a piece from 0.050 aluminum to stiffen the
location where I was mounting the mic. Everything works well but I have
not tested it in flight yet. I will give a report after some in-flight
testing, maybe this weekend.
Did I mention they were $149. I have attached a link to the website. I
bought them from an online store called Active Forever, They had them
in stock.
Hope to fly this weekend.
Steven
http://www.noisebuster.net/nb-safety.htm
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| From: | "pj.ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Botched UltraStar Landing Assessment |
Looks like that video had the guy holding off/flare too high and simply ran
out of airspeed while 3-4 feet off the ground.>>
Hi All
Seems that I missed the original clip of this. Can anyone put it back on or
tell me where to find it please.
Cheers
Pat
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| From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Botched UltraStar Landing Assessment |
At 07:03 AM 3/12/2008, pj.ladd wrote:
>Seems that I missed the original clip of this. Can anyone put it back on
>or tell me where to find it please.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hqEBYcFp4k
-Dana
--
Hit any key. With what?
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| From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Botched UltraStar Landing Assessment |
At 07:03 AM 3/12/2008, pj.ladd wrote:
>Seems that I missed the original clip of this. Can anyone put it back on
>or tell me where to find it please.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hqEBYcFp4k
-Dana
--
Hit any key. With what?
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| From: | Ben Ransom <bransom(at)ucdavis.edu> |
| Subject: | Re: Vamoose for Sale |
Hi Lar,
To refresh your memory, I'm a long time back acquaintance from Kolb life
-- and we actually met at Castle AFB once. Congrats on retirement.
Open road and a boat -- not bad! Sad to hear Vamoose will be going
elsewhere, but then there is freedom in moving on too. Besides just
wanting to say hey, I have some curiosity about Vamoose's engine. The
engine subject comes up periodically on the Murphy list. Several guys
there have put on 912S engines and love them, but the price of course
has risen beyond crazy, I believe ~20k low-value US dollars now.
Non-Murphy folks are often surprised that a 912 powered Murphy can be
built to 725 lbs empty, and they work real well with 100hp and less
weight on the nose. So, how much power -- max and sustained -- do you
figure is available from Vamoose's engine (and at what rpm)?
BTW I recently checked out your photos from touring BC. That area makes
me weak in the knees too. You have scored some magnifico whale shots,
and your web visit counter indicates your site is a best kept secret.
-Ben Ransom
Davis, CA
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| From: | "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Vamoose for Sale |
Ben
I'm going to jump in here. We talked years ago about VWs and BMWs. I choose
to use the VW and have been flying VWs on my MKIIIC for six years. First it
isn't HP that moves a airplane it is thrust. Redrive VWs can be configured
to the same thrust as a 80 HP Rotax and will survive running with a 80 HP
Rotax quite well. Lars engine is a bore slightly smaller than mine 90.5mm vs
my 92mm. His plan was to run alot higher RPMs than I do so the HP and maybe
the thrust would be more like the 100HP rotax or maybe more. The problems
Lar was likely to run into would be getting rid of the heat at the higher
power and reduced reliability. You are aware Lars engine is a redrive engine
not a direct drive engine.
You reference Murphy airplanes (we are on the Kolb list) which are tractor
engine airplanes. Tractor mounted redrive VWs run smoother and cooler.
Cooler due to the big fan out front. Smoother because the prop runs in clean
air. The biggest improvement in thrust you can get would be using a large
two bladed prop with a big reduction ratio. The group that built a squadron
of WWI replica airplanes use a 8 ft prop with something like a 2 to one or
more ratio. My understanding is that they get performance close to what a
engine with twice HP would be, direct drive or maybe even a Rotax with a
standard ratio redrive.
Talk to the guys a Valley engineering/Culver Props. Be aware that a VW isn't
going to weigh less than a Rotax. Also the original engine was designed as a
36 HP so the more you ask of it the less reliable it will be. Personally 100
HP seems like too much but????
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ben Ransom" <bransom(at)ucdavis.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 12:42 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Vamoose for Sale
>
> Hi Lar,
> To refresh your memory, I'm a long time back acquaintance from Kolb
> life -- and we actually met at Castle AFB once. Congrats on retirement.
> Open road and a boat -- not bad! Sad to hear Vamoose will be going
> elsewhere, but then there is freedom in moving on too. Besides just
> wanting to say hey, I have some curiosity about Vamoose's engine. The
> engine subject comes up periodically on the Murphy list. Several guys
> there have put on 912S engines and love them, but the price of course has
> risen beyond crazy, I believe ~20k low-value US dollars now. Non-Murphy
> folks are often surprised that a 912 powered Murphy can be built to 725
> lbs empty, and they work real well with 100hp and less weight on the nose.
> So, how much power -- max and sustained -- do you figure is available from
> Vamoose's engine (and at what rpm)?
> BTW I recently checked out your photos from touring BC. That area makes
> me weak in the knees too. You have scored some magnifico whale shots, and
> your web visit counter indicates your site is a best kept secret.
>
> -Ben Ransom
> Davis, CA
>
>
>
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| From: | Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | VW Engines on Kolbs |
Rick,
I just read you "Engine details" email you posted a couple of months ago, that
I have kept in my own archives. Is there any way I could get you to post some
photos?? I'd sure like to get a look at your creation!!! It sounds VERY impresive!
Mike Welch
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| From: | Larry Bourne <biglar(at)gogittum.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Vamoose for Sale |
Thanks, Ben. I do remember meeting you at Castle. That were a good air
show, and a reasonable location for a SoCal resident. (at the time)
After a lot of research, I figured on Vamoose' 2110cc engine to have
around 140 hp at 4800 rpm and 90 hp sustained at 3800 rpm. These
numbers were pretty well documented in several VW hotrod magazines at
the time I built the engine. Later experience in my 2110cc Baja Bug
tells me that Rick is probably correct about reliability at the higher
number. That engine is really howling at 4800 and I doubt I'd want to
sustain it, but my purpose there was for emergency power and it seems
that it was certainly there. On the 1st test run, Vamoose slammed a
550# scale against the stops seemingly effortlessly......before it
twisted the input shaft off the redrive. It was impressive, exciting,
and fun, sitting in the pilot's seat. With fuel injection, electronic
ignition, higher compression (figuring on using avgas) and an aggressive
cam, it makes Der Bug's engine seem calm and quiet in comparison. The
thing is brutal.
Again, going by Der Bug, (which 2110cc engine is less highly tuned) 3800
rpm is a walk. Effortless, and is really into the power band. 65 mph
is around 4,000 rpm, and it'll hum along all day. Der Bug has many
1,000's of miles now, of off road, freeway cruising and general zooming
around town and has been *almost* totally dependable. Breakdowns have
been things like clutch cable, gas cable, clutch linkage, etc., but the
engine has been flawless. It gets driven hard, almost all the time.
The thing is so much fun it's hard not to tromp on the go pedal.
I'm pleased that you enjoyed my web pages, and that you took the time to
look. I'm disappointed that so few have. The British Columbia coast is
spectacular, the experiences were certainly fun, and I enjoy seeing
others enjoy them, too. I've been in New Mexico for 16 months now,
(already ! ! ! ) and have been busy most weekends. Some are documented
in the blog in my signature, below.
I well remember your pictures of sandbar hopping and freighter strafing
and was very envious at the time. You obviously enjoy your toys,
too. Lar.
Larry Bourne
Santa Fe, NM
www.gogittum.com
www.gogittum.com/blog
Ben Ransom wrote:
>
> Hi Lar,
> To refresh your memory, I'm a long time back acquaintance from Kolb
> life -- and we actually met at Castle AFB once. Congrats on
> retirement. Open road and a boat -- not bad! Sad to hear Vamoose will
> be going elsewhere, but then there is freedom in moving on too.
> Besides just wanting to say hey, I have some curiosity about Vamoose's
> engine. The engine subject comes up periodically on the Murphy list.
> Several guys there have put on 912S engines and love them, but the
> price of course has risen beyond crazy, I believe ~20k low-value US
> dollars now. Non-Murphy folks are often surprised that a 912 powered
> Murphy can be built to 725 lbs empty, and they work real well with
> 100hp and less weight on the nose. So, how much power -- max and
> sustained -- do you figure is available from Vamoose's engine (and at
> what rpm)?
> BTW I recently checked out your photos from touring BC. That area
> makes me weak in the knees too. You have scored some magnifico whale
> shots, and your web visit counter indicates your site is a best kept
> secret.
>
> -Ben Ransom
> Davis, CA
>
>
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| From: | "Steven Green" <Kolbdriver(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Re: ANR Headset Upgrade |
Got a chance to fly for about 45 minutes today with the adapted ANR
headset. It does a very good job. I am satisfied for now. The
longivity test begins now. How long will it last????
I had only used an ANR headset for about 30 minutes about a year ago so
I cannot compare it to any other sets.
Steven
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| From: | possums <possums(at)bellsouth.net> |
Shot some more videos this afternoon.
I'll keep the clips shorter - so as not to bore you all.
I mounted a new Hall ASI close to the camera.
It goes from 0 to 55 mph. They are very accurate in clean air.
It was easy to read in the original clip (32MB), but hard to see
after it was uploaded to Goggle. Guess I need to put it closer to the camera
next time.
Anyway - here is a clip flying at 25 mph at about 4200 RPM.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8643180947591432536&hl=en
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| From: | possums <possums(at)bellsouth.net> |
Here is a clip flying at about 5800 RPM with the
stick pulled all the way back to the seat.
It is hard to stall with full power unless you pull
the stick back pretty quick and make it.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8361300167482330203&hl=en
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| From: | possums <possums(at)bellsouth.net> |
Here is our field - it's getting kind of crowded with all the
new houses they've built next to it. But the new neighbors don't
seem to mind - so far. Just gotta watch those antennas.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=263159682459782825&hl=en
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| From: | possums <possums(at)bellsouth.net> |
Here's some turns at 25 - 30 mph - no stall.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8126295785191222670&hl=en
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| From: | possums <possums(at)bellsouth.net> |
And the last one - a clean stall break.
But it recovers pretty quick.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1724203084033037294&hl=en
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| From: | "pj.ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
| Subject: | Fw: RUSSIAN TRANSPORT LEAVES OZ |
----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Patterson
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 1:18 AM
Subject: RUSSIAN TRANSPORT LEAVES OZ
Hi All, Thanks everybody for the lead to the rough Kolb landing.. He
didn`t seem to have judged things badly enough to break anything . The
general consensus seems about right. He had a bad weld or he dropped the
wheel in a hole. I loved the reaction from the female voice,
wife?,mother?, girl friend? " There you are I just knew that would
happen". The number of times we must all of heard that.
Here is a non Kolb clip that I am sure you will enjoy. I like the Aussie
voice saying "I shant have enough film left for the crash"
Pat
Subject: RUSSIAN TRANSPORT LEAVES OZ
You will shudder when you watch this video.
Using every inch of runway
CLICK HERE :
http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/2008-2-9-Il76-in-Austral
ia.wmv
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21/11/2007 10:01
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| From: | possums <possums(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Flying with VGs |
At 07:38 AM 3/13/2008, you wrote:
>Hey there Possum you say in this pic Video it was a clean stall
>break the Hall indicator is indicating 35 I had a firestar that
>weighed in at 338 dry and did not have VG's and it would stall under
>30 indicated good thing I didn't put the VG's on ...chuckle ....chuckle
You've gotta remember that I'm not dragging the plane thru the
air with three notches of flaps either. I don't even have flaps or flaperons.
I don't even have the old "barn door" style ailerons on this plane.
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| From: | "Ed Chmielewski" <edchmiel(at)mindspring.com> |
| Subject: | Re: ANR Headset Upgrade |
Hi Steve/All,
My Headsets, Inc. conversion on a pair of David Clark H10-80's
is about 14 years old. Used in corporate ops all that time, never a
failure. The original DC strain relief is cracking, si I'm calling the
Headsets Inc. folks to replace it as the new version does.
Highly recommend them! I've used Bose, Sennheiser, DC, and
lower-cost ANR headsets, and the Headsets Inc. product is every bit as
quiet.
Ed in JXN
MkII/503
----- Original Message -----
From: Steven Green
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: ANR Headset Upgrade
Got a chance to fly for about 45 minutes today with the adapted ANR
headset. It does a very good job. I am satisfied for now. The
longivity test begins now. How long will it last????
I had only used an ANR headset for about 30 minutes about a year ago
so I cannot compare it to any other sets.
Steven
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| From: | "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: VW Engines on Kolbs |
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| From: | Russ Kinne <russ(at)rkiphoto.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Vamoose for Sale |
Big Lar
Just crost my mind - when you make your swing thru w. FL I strongly
suggest you stop at Wakulla Springs State Park & take their riverboat
tour (all of $6!) -- it's just great. Gators, manateeses, lots birds,
real genuine wildlife. You won't get muddy, but can roll around in
a puddle if you feel you must -- this is NOT a touristy-type trip,
even tho that's what it is. S. of Tallahassee on rte 363. AND
Apalachicola oysters are the best I've ever had, out of the millions
I've eaten.
Do yourself a favor & put it on your trip schedule
Chris Davis,who craSHED WITH NORM LABHART, LIVES NEARBY SOMEWHERE.
Sorry, hit CAPS again.
Fair winds,
Russ
On Mar 9, 2008, at 4:58 PM, Larry Bourne wrote:
>
> Yah, feel like I know you, too, Possum. It's been 10 years now. I
> still have the video tape you sent, and still enjoy it and laugh at
> it from time to time. I've met a lot of good folks all over the
> continent from the List in my travels over those years, and met
> many more at MV. It's been a good time.
>
> The Deep South visit I cancelled on the List a couple of weeks ago
> is probably back on again. Circumstances have changed again, and
> the problems in Canada are resolved, so I might just head East in
> June for Lousy-ana's Atchafalaya Swamp, Okefenokee, and at least
> Central Florida. We'll see. If I do go, I'll make a run up to
> (shudder) Atlanta from Okefenokee, just for you. :-) I'd really
> like to find some real swamp crawlers to take me out into that area
> and get wet and dirty chasing snakes and 'gators and gar and
> turtles. :-) It's always better with someone who really knows the
> area. I did send an email a while back hoping to get an answer
> from that guy who said he lived just north of Okefenokee, but never
> heard back from him. Lar.
>
> possums wrote:
>>
>> At 01:16 PM 3/5/2008, you wrote:
>>>
>>> Ol' Lar is getting ready to retire, >>
>>>
>>> Hi Lar,
>>> very sorry to hear that Vamoose is going in preparation for your
>>> retirement.
>>
>> Me too..... Sorry I never got to meet you in person.
>> I know we almost got together once or twice.
>> Feel like I know got to know you after all these years anyway
>> from looking at your web site and talking to you on the Kolb site.
>> If you're ever down South - "come see us"
>> Stan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| From: | possums <possums(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Flying with VGs |
At 04:00 PM 3/13/2008, you wrote:
>
>Possums,
>Could you mount the camera above the wing showing the VG's and then
>pour some engine oil on your leading edge and take a flight.
>I'm curious how the air is moving around the VG's and where the flow
>separation occurs compared to your VG placement.
>The oil trails will show what is happening up there. [Wink]
I'd have to wash my plane first - you can see how dusty my wings are.
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| Subject: | Re: Vamoose for Sale |
| From: | "Dave Rains" <RangeFlyer72(at)yahoo.com> |
Hey Lar, lets go scuba diving :D
Now, we go way back!
Sorry to hear you won't be at MV this year, won't be the same without you. Hope
Vamoose finds an appreciative new owner.
Dave.
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Dave Rains
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| From: | Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | helpful tools for working on your Kolb |
Hey Guys,
Things seem a little slow lately, so I thought I'd reintroduce this handy tool
for those that haven't seen it before.
It was almost a year ago when I suggested looking at it. Evidently the guy that
makes these clamping tools is not very good at filling orders, or customer service,
so I would recommend making it yourself. I am.
Do yourself a favor, and watch the videos. Very handy to have, for securing hose
lines, all sorts of stuff.
http://www.clamptitetools.com/Instructions.html
Mike Welch
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| From: | Russ Kinne <russ(at)rkiphoto.com> |
| Subject: | Re: helpful tools for working on your Kolb |
If anyone has trouble finding a CLAMPTITE tool, check the marine
dealers. These are widely used in the boating industry
On Mar 15, 2008, at 12:01 AM, Mike Welch wrote:
>
>
> Hey Guys,
>
> Things seem a little slow lately, so I thought I'd reintroduce
> this handy tool for those that haven't seen it before.
> It was almost a year ago when I suggested looking at it. Evidently
> the guy that makes these clamping tools is not very good at filling
> orders, or customer service, so I would recommend making it
> yourself. I am.
>
> Do yourself a favor, and watch the videos. Very handy to have, for
> securing hose lines, all sorts of stuff.
>
>
> http://www.clamptitetools.com/Instructions.html
>
>
> Mike Welch
> _________________________________________________________________
> Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge
> with star power.
> http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?
> icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: helpful tools for working on your Kolb |
| From: | "Mnflyer" <gbsb2002(at)yahoo.com> |
I have one the tools it works as advertised, but I never seem to think about it
when I need something like it. use to carry it in the truck when we were traveling
just in case a hose clamp should break.
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GB
MNFlyer
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| Subject: | Re: axle fittings |
| From: | "Jim ODay" <jimoday(at)hotmail.com> |
I received my new gear leg/axle mount fittings today. They are for a FSII
I need some advice.
The old part is installed and drilled. You can see it below.
The new part is not drilled.
You can see how much thicker the tube is on the new part.
I am not sue how I will relocate the drilled holes on the new part to match the
gear leg. I have some ideas, but I have learned that it probably has been done
many times before and I can skip some frustration by asking.
Any tips would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Jim
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Jim O'Day
Fargo, ND
Firestar II
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| From: | Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: axle fittings |
> The old part is installed and drilled. You can see it below.
>
> Any tips would be appreciated.
> Thanks.
>
> Jim
>
> --------
> Jim O'Day
> Fargo, ND
> Firestar II
Jim, You must have forgot the photo. Yes, I have a suggestion, but I want to
see the photo first.
Mike Welch
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| From: | jerb <ulflyer(at)verizon.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Flying with VGs |
What is the do-dad on you nose cone right in front of you?
Are you using it for slip indicator? First I thought it was a
pivoting airspeed probe like they often use on aircraft during
certification testing.but it looks like it acts more like a ground
direction indicator?
jerb
At 09:30 PM 3/12/2008, you wrote:
>Here is a clip flying at about 5800 RPM with the
>stick pulled all the way back to the seat.
>It is hard to stall with full power unless you pull
>the stick back pretty quick and make it.
>
>http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8361300167482330203&hl=en
>
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| From: | Russ Kinne <russ(at)rkiphoto.com> |
Hello List -- this quote is from a sea-captain but I think pertains
to flying too -- FWIW
Good seamanship is defined as having sufficient intelligence,
experience, and foresight to avoid desperate circumstances demanding
same....Captain Bernie Weiss
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| Subject: | Re: axle fittings |
| From: | "Jim ODay" <jimoday(at)hotmail.com> |
Mike:
Which picture do you need? The painted white is on my plane, the bare metal is
the new part. I see them on the page, they are coming in via a html placemark.
I can post them if they do not show up for you.
Jim
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Jim O'Day
Fargo, ND
Firestar II
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| From: | Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: axle fittings |
Yeah, Jim, post them some other way, 'cause I don't see anything but typing. You
can send (both of) them by way of the email I sent you backcopy. Then call
me so I can help you locate the drill holes in the new fittting.
Mike
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| From: | possums <possums(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Re: axle fittings |
At 11:09 PM 3/15/2008, you wrote:
>
>Yeah, Jim, post them some other way, 'cause I don't see anything but
>typing. You can send (both of) them by way of the email I sent you
>backcopy. Then call me so I can help you locate the drill holes in
>the new fittting.
>
>Mike
Should be on here - just scroll up.
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=170107#170107
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| Subject: | New "Kolbee" ... New to the Forum |
| From: | "Hose.A" <jreaves57(at)yahoo.com> |
Hi everyone,
The name is Joe and I hail from Tyler, Texas. I am new to the forum and new to
ultralights. Just bought a 2002 Kolb Mark III and really anxious to get some
time in it. I have a Commercial, Instrument, Multi-engine and CFI, but this
will be a whole new learning experience for me.
Hurry up and get here, warm weather!
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HoseA
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| From: | "boyd" <by0ung(at)brigham.net> |
| Subject: | Re: axle fittings |
Do you know what a rivet locator is? It is used to locate a hole in the top
skin when laid over a hole in a lower surface... how to make one... take
a 8 inch piece of sheet metal and fold it in half. Then drill a hole
through the ends where they overlap... place a rivet through the lower
piece and insert the rivet in the under lying hole, then putting the piece
of skin you want to locate the hole in, between the folded over halves of
the locator, the hole in the top of the locator will locate the hole in
the skin.
With that mental picture in mind,,,, take a piece of sheet metal, and
clamp it to the leg a few inches above the axel fitting using a screw clamp,
or two to keep it from moving.... drill the sheet metal from the opposite
side of the gear leg through the existing hole. This will locate the
hole... then pull the sheet metal far enough from the leg to slide the axel
fitting on,, make sure you don't move the locator, when the axel fitting
is properly aligned,, the hole in the piece of sheet metal will locate the
hole in the axel fitting.
Boyd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
I am not sue how I will relocate the drilled holes on the new part to match
the gear leg. I have some ideas, but I have learned that it probably has
been done many times before and I can skip some frustration by asking.
Any tips would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Jim
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| From: | DAquaNut(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: New "Kolbee" ... New to the Forum |
Joe,
Welcome to the list. congrats on your new Kolb . The biggest difference
between your Kolb and what you are used to, is it has more drag and slows
down quickly. You dont want to flare it until you are close to the ground. The
closer the better. Actually you hardly flare at all. Just fly it to about a
foot off the ground and back of the throttle. If you flare like a
conventional craft you are asking for trouble.
Good Luck,
Ed Diebel ( Firefly 62 In Houston) 80*
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| From: | David Key <dhkey(at)msn.com> |
| Subject: | New "Kolbee" ... New to the Forum |
Joe,
I live at F69 stop by sometime, I can get you fuel. Congradulations!
David> Subject: Kolb-List: New "Kolbee" ... New to the Forum> From: jreaves
57(at)yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 22:14:15 -0700> To: kolb-list@matronic
Hi everyone,> > The name is Joe and I hail from Tyler, Texas. I am new to
the forum and new to ultralights. Just bought a 2002 Kolb Mark III and real
ly anxious to get some time in it. I have a Commercial, Instrument, Multi-e
ngine and CFI, but this will be a whole new learning experience for me.> >
Hurry up and get here, warm weather!> > --------> HoseA> > > > > Read this
topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=170128#
=====> > >
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| From: | possums <possums(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Flying with VGs |
At 08:43 PM 3/15/2008, you wrote:
>
>What is the do-dad on you nose cone right in front of you?
>Are you using it for slip indicator? First I thought it was a
>pivoting airspeed probe like they often use on aircraft during
>certification testing.but it looks like it acts more like a ground
>direction indicator?
>jerb
Using it as a slip indicator - it came off a sail boat.
A string works just as well if I have my windshield on, but not so good
when I fly out in the open.
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| From: | "boyd" <by0ung(at)brigham.net> |
| Subject: | Re: axle fittings |
With that mental picture in mind,,,, take a piece of sheet metal, and
clamp it to the leg a few inches above the axel fitting using a screw clamp,
or two to keep it from moving.... drill the sheet metal from the opposite
side of the gear leg through the existing hole. This will locate the
hole... then pull the sheet metal far enough from the leg to slide the axel
fitting on,, make sure you don't move the locator, when the axel fitting
is properly aligned,, the hole in the piece of sheet metal will locate the
hole in the axel fitting.
Boyd
Ok I am going one step further after sleeping on this.
In order that you don't increase the size of hole in the gear leg, make a
snug fitting bushing and slide it in the gear leg hole.. Now when you drill
the sheet metal to mark the hole location in the gear socket. use the
largest drill that will fit inside the bushing, using it as a guide.
Slide the axel fitting on the leg and align the fitting and drill with the
smaller size drill.. after drilling you will be able to check the alignment
by putting the drill bit through the hole in the axel fitting and into the
bushing.. if the alignment is ok then go ahead and drill it to the proper
size,,, if it was off a bit,,, then file the hole in the axel fitting to
correct the alignment,,, then drill through to the other side of the axel
fitting, then from the other side open it up to the correct size, remove the
bushing, and continue drilling through the first hole to correct any offset.
You may have to read a bit between the lines.. But this will give you a
trial fit and a chance to correct it before drilling to the full size.
Boyd
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| From: | "David Kulp" <undoctor(at)ptd.net> |
| Subject: | Trailering a FireFly |
I'm looking for advice on tailoring my new FireFly. I'm going to bring
it home to PA from TN in the near future, and although I have numerous
pictures and sites about tailoring a Kolb, I'd like some specific advice
from those who have done it successfully.
As a starting point, I have thousands of miles hauling machinery loads
on 18 wheeler flatbeds and lowboys with overweight and over-dimension
loads a normal challenge. But the only Kolb I hauled was my US on my
half ton pickup, wings and engine in one load, and the rest on another.
I made ramps from the ground onto the front of the pickup and pulled it
onto the truck so the mains rode on the cowl right by the windshield (I
had the landing gear crossmembers Xing in front of the windshield) and
the boom tube continued from above the cab back to the tailgate,
suspended by a simple bungee rig. Looked kind of like the space shuttle
riding piggyback on the huge cargo jet when they move it. And this was
only for a distance of about 30 miles.
I bought a field construction trailer which is ready for the trailer
park in the sky to both haul and hanger my new Kolb. It has an overhead
door in the rear and is 28' long inside, 32' overall. I am going to gut
the entire interior and re-work the overhead door from rolling at the
header to sliding along the top for more height. I doubt if I'll throw
truckers chains over the FireFly and bind it down with chain binders,
so, folks, any tips (that may not be apparent in the pictures available)
you can give me on tying it down, cradling the tail section and
protecting the fantastic paint job would be greatly appreciated. I
really, REALLY don't want to scuff the FlagFly.
Thanks in advance,
Dave Kulp
Bethlehem, PA
FireFly 098
We have enough youth, how about a Fountain of Smart.
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| From: | "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: New "Kolbee" ... New to the Forum |
Joe
As Ed has suggested your biggest problem is landing. Your experience
will serve you poorly. On your first landings keep the power maybe on
25% till you are within less than a foot of the ground. Then and only
then cut the power. Also don't use flaps at all. As you get more
experience SLOWLY reduce the power you set for approach or set one notch
of flap. Don't do both at the same time. In fact you may be better off
adding a bit more power the first time you use one notch of flaps. Some
of us still carry some power with lots of experience. I like to carry
some power because landing with one notch of flaps with some power will
feel just like no power (engine out) with no flaps. I know this first
hand. Some of us never use full flaps other than for brief periods on
approach to hit the landing point you want. There is one of our members
that uses full flaps and power off on all his landings but I would wait
for that after your first thousand landings and even then approach it
with added power. There will be those that will tell you I'm being too
conservative but most GA pilots will have problems if they move too fast
to flaps and no power.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
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From: DAquaNut(at)aol.com
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 1:44 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: New "Kolbee" ... New to the Forum
Joe,
Welcome to the list. congrats on your new Kolb . The biggest
difference between your Kolb and what you are used to, is it has more
drag and slows down quickly. You dont want to flare it until you are
close to the ground. The closer the better. Actually you hardly flare
at all. Just fly it to about a foot off the ground and back of the
throttle. If you flare like a conventional craft you are asking for
trouble.
Good Luck,
Ed Diebel ( Firefly 62 In Houston)
80* today
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| Subject: | Re: New "Kolbee" ... New to the Forum |
| From: | "Hose.A" <jreaves57(at)yahoo.com> |
Thanks everyone for the advice on landing the Kolb. I intend to get a few hours
dual instruction before venturing out on my own.
Per request, here is a pic of my "new" bird:
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HoseA
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| From: | Lanny Fetterman <donaho(at)uplink.net> |
HoesA, Looks like a nice aircraft. I see it dosen`t have a gap seal between
the wings. If it didn`t come with one you might want to buy or make one.
Lanny N598LF FSII
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: New "Kolbee" ... New to the Forum |
> The name is Joe and I hail from Tyler, Texas. I am new to the forum and
new to ultralights. >
> --------
> HoseA
Hi Joe:
Welcome to the world of little airplanes.
We have a lot of fun building and flying these little guys.
john h
mkIII
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: New "Kolbee" ... New to the Forum |
> Per request, here is a pic of my "new" bird:
>
> --------
> HoseA
Joe:
Where is your center section?
Kolbs were designed to fly with centersections to cover the area between the
wing sections. They fly much better with center section installed.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Trailering a FireFly |
| From: | "George Alexander" <gtalexander(at)att.net> |
undoctor(at)ptd.net wrote:
> I'm looking for advice on tailoring my new FireFly. I'm going to bring it home
to PA from TN in the near future, and although I have numerous pictures and
sites about tailoring a Kolb, I'd like some specific advice from those who
have done it successfully.
>
>
> Dave Kulp
> Bethlehem, PA
>
> FireFly 098
>
> We have enough youth, how about a Fountain of Smart.
>
Dave:
In my view, there are 3 key points to address. How you specifically address them
will vary based on the trailer, the plane and most importantly what makes you
feel comfortable.
-Get the weight off the tail wheel. Most popular method seems to be suspending
the boom tube in a cradle secured to the floor. This method accomplishes the
primary objective and keeps the tail in place. Others use a sling, suspended
from the ceiling to set the boom tube in. This method requires more thought
in preventing the tail from swaying side to side.
-Get the weight of the wings off the boom tube. Some build cradles for the wings,
securing the cradles to the floor. Others use slings and suspend the wings
from the ceiling. Either way, the wings need to be stabilized to keep them from
banging into anything/each other. Some leave the wings in the normal folded
position and use slings to relieve the weight of the wings from the appliance
that attaches the wings to the boom tube. Finally, some take the wings off
entirely and secure them to the walls of the trailer. Still requires cradles
or at least padding.
-Secure the mains to the floor. Blocks/chocks on all four sides of each wheel
and then strap the wheels/axles to the floor. There are differing views about
securing the cage itself to the trailer. Those that say "don't do it", offer
that the mains should be able to take anything that you would encounter while
trailering plus rigidly securing the cage puts unnatural stresses on it. I tend
to go along with this view.
The section on Trailering a Kolb on my web site has examples of all these methods.
Hopefully, this will help and others will offer views as well. Bottom line is
you have to be comfortable with the method you choose.
My $.02 worth which got me 1250 miles from Northern NJ to SW FL.
Good luck with your new toy.
(Hmmm a Firefly in a 28' trailer.... you'll be looking to sub-let the front 6 or
so feet. ) :D
--------
George Alexander
http://gtalexander.home.att.net
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
Hi Folks:
Chow out the little mkIII and flew up to the factory last Wed. Wonderful
flight. Logged 4.1 hours on the way north.
Friday morning headed south, made it 7 sm from Rockwood, TN, ran into a
brick wall, turned around and flew back to TNK. Rain, low viz down and
back. Flew 173.2 sm, 2.2 hours, and ended up back at TNK.
Yesterday morning I departed TNK. Weather looked great all the way to
Rockwood, TN,90.0 sm and 1.1 hours later. I could see the dark clouds to
the west when I made my approach to KRKW. I elected to stay at KRKW until
0900 this morning. Was a great decision. Got lots of rest. Spent the
night on the front porch of the FBO. Wouldn't let me sleep inside. Some
FBO's are not designed for "barn stormers" and some are.
This morning I flew .6 hrs and 66.2 sm to Collegedale, TN. They had a full
coffee pot, sandwiches in the frig, and a cheese Danish. Had fun talking to
the local pilots, then headed SW for Gantt IAP, Alabama. Arrived 2.1 hours
and 184.0 sm later. Was good to be home.
Weather was perfect today. Had a good tailwind. My ground speed was
between 95 and 116 mph all the way home.
The little mkIII did great, as usual. Was a good training flight to get
ready for the flying season. Sun and Fun next month and Monument Valley,
Utah, in May. John Bickham's flyin in July, and also Oshkosh. Then the
Kolb Homecoming the end of September. My, my! Time is flying when we are
having fun.
Take care,
john h
mkIII
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
> Chow out the little mkIII and flew up to the factory last Wed.
Folks:
I have no idea why my fingers typed "Chow" instead of "Pushed."
Next time I'll proof read before I punch the send button. ;-)
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: axle fittings |
| From: | "Jim ODay" <jimoday(at)hotmail.com> |
Boyd:
I have one of those hole locater devices you describe. I get the idea of using
the strap on the outside.
I was looking at the part and I am thinking I may be able to set up the old with
the new and get the position located OK and put it in my drill vise and put
the hole through both sides. If the alignment is off with the existing hole
on the gear leg I can clamp it in place and drill through the next larger hole.
I would not even be messing with this if Larry had not broken his. But, if I can
minimize the opportunity to bend my plane, it is a good thing. Besides, it
is still cold here and I cant fly it anyway.
I have some handy tools to locate the centers of holes but they do not work here.
I have a phone call to make to another Kolber with a suggestion to consider
too.
Thanks for the advise, I appreciate it very much.
Jim
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Jim O'Day
Fargo, ND
Firestar II
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| From: | william sullivan <williamtsullivan(at)att.net> |
John- I was watching the national weather, and you were very fortunate to have
missed out on the weather fronts. They looked pretty erratic to me.
To get the "chow" out of the typing- eat first, then write. Then you won't
think about it.
Also- Hose.A's Firefly has a single wing strut. I thought Fly's had 2 struts.
Could it be a newer type Firestar cage, but not so new to have the vertical
aileron push tubes? Wing tips look custom, too.
Bill Sullivan
old Firestar
Windsor Locks, Ct.
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| From: | william sullivan <williamtsullivan(at)att.net> |
I can't quite makeout a lot of detail- might be the old computer. Let me try again.
The plane looks like an early TNK Firestar ll, new type cage, and looks like
flaperons? I am still trying for visual cues to help identify the age on mine.
Also, what type engine is that?
Bill Sullivan
old FS
watching paint dry, and waiting out the
weather
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| From: | Gene Ledbetter <gdledbetter(at)aol.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Trailering a FireFly |
Dave,
I'm one of the folks who removes the wings and hang them from the
trailer wall.
If you go to my website, you can see photos.
homepage.mac.com/gene1930
I have trailered between Cincinnati and Florida 3 times without a
scratch.
Gene
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
> I look forward to finishing my MkIII soon, and venturing out on my own
trips! BTW, are you planning to fly your plane to MV? That would be
about a thousand miles!!!
>
> Mike Welch
Mike W:
Yes, I plan on flying to MV. This will be number 6, and I have not missed
flying to one yet. From my airstrip it is about 1500 sm to MV, depending on
how crooked I fly. From there will fly up the Rock House in SE Oregon, home
of Larry Cottrell, with John W. Then back across the Idaho, Wyoming, SD.
I'll head for Alabama, and John W will head for Texas.
We do flights like this every May after MV. Usually, I will end up with
about 75 flight hours and around 6,000 sm. This is my normal annual long
flight. Then there is Lakeland and Oshkosh, and a few other flights thrown
in there, plus the Kolb Homecoming last weekend in September. Forgot about
Homer Kolb's Father's Day Flyin in June. Gonna try to fly to that one this
year.
I'm still planning on flying back to Alaska Summer of 2009 to celebrate my
70th year. I don't know if I can still do it or not. I'm not as spry now
as I was. If I can do it, be comfortable, and have fun doing it, I'll have
my bag packed and be on my way about the last week of June 2008.
Yes, this kind of grass roots cross country flying is a ball. That's why I
have been doing it for the last 24 years in Kolbs. If it wasn't fun, I'd
find another hobby, in addition to dirt bikes, ATVs, antique tractors, and
traveling in the old Dodge/Cummins and ancient 5th wheel.
Take care,
john h
mkIII
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Possum's funny indicator thing-y |
> Thet ainguish haint no worsn it twas befo.
> BB, relatives in S Indiana
Bob B:
I don't see anything wrong with it. That's how we talk in the Heart of
Dixie, hauck's holler, alabama.
john h
mkIII
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
I'll have
> my bag packed and be on my way about the last week of June 2008.
Guys:
I need a secretary.
Plan on departing for Alaska last week of June 2009.
john h
mkIII
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Hose.A's plane |
Bill S:
Think that is a MKIII with a 582 Rotax.
No flaperons, but big flaps.
john h
mkIII
The plane looks like an early TNK Firestar ll, new type cage, and looks
like flaperons? I am still trying for visual cues to help identify the
age on mine.
Also, what type engine is that?
Bill Sullivan
old FS
watching paint dry, and
waiting out the weather
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| From: | "Wade Lawicki" <wlawicki(at)yahoo.com> |
John,
Next time let me know, we have a 2200` strip near Lebanon Tn. bout half
way between you and them. We have a futon, kitchen and shower your welcome
to use if needed.
Fly Safe,
Wade
--------
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Nashville Tn.
FS 2
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| From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
At 06:10 PM 3/16/2008, william sullivan wrote:
>...Hose.A's Firefly has a single wing strut. I thought Fly's had 2 struts...
Bill, the Firefly's have two wing struts. My understanding is that this is
not for any structural purpose, but to increase drag to slow down the
maximum speed according to the calculations in AC103-7. Many owners
retrofit a single strut with a bar at the top to span both attach fittings
on the wing.
-Dana
--
Computer games don't affect kids, I mean if Pacman affected us as kids,
we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching pills, and listening
to repetitive music.
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| From: | Russ Kinne <russ(at)rkiphoto.com> |
| Subject: | Re: New "Kolbee" ... New to the Forum |
HoseA -- where's the pic?
On Mar 16, 2008, at 4:22 PM, John Hauck wrote:
>
>
> > Per request, here is a pic of my "new" bird:
>>
>> --------
>> HoseA
>
>
> Joe:
>
> Where is your center section?
>
> Kolbs were designed to fly with centersections to cover the area
> between the wing sections. They fly much better with center
> section installed.
>
> john h
> mkIII
>
>
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| Subject: | Takeoff & landing & stall help |
| From: | "grantr" <grant_richardson25(at)yahoo.com> |
My instructor and I are learning how to fly my MKIII! Flying it is not hard taking
off is a bit tricky for both of us. Landing he does good. I do fair.
He has over 2000hrs in phantoms and Challengers. He currently flies a challenger
II.
We are still getting used to the plane and have a few questions for you experienced
kolb guys.
Today I almost took out a runway light on takeoff. My instructor is pretty sure
we were hit by a cross wind gust just after I raised the tail. Anyway the plane
made a hard veer to the right when the tail came up then I over corrected
and made it veer left and then It really went right back into the wind and off
the side of the runway. We got off the ground in time.
my plane stalls at 45mph indicated
We are raising the tail at about 40 to 45mph and rotating at 55mph. Climb at 60
to 65mph. These seem to be good numbers. How do your numbers compare?
Do you guys have the VNE speed for the MKIII and the max flap speed ?
What is the best way to make a crosswind take off on asphalt or grass?
Is it ok to hold the tail on the ground until rotation speed?
Landings:
We approach at 65 mph engine idle We are making the landing at idle and using power
as necessary on the approach. 65 mph give plenty of energy for a nice touch
down. We have not experience the So called kolb drop. The only drop was my
high flair. :D
I am having a hard time judging when to round out. I want to round out fairly close
to the ground and my instructor gets nervous and is telling me to round
out higher. he says if I miss it by a second we are going to hit the ground hard
or fly right into the ground and kill us. We are having radio trouble too.
Since we cant communicate he just doesn't know if I am going to round out or
not. He has military headsets and 1 GA headset. I have comtronic which is not
compatable. I bought a cord thats suppose to adapt the GA headset to my comtronics.
The head set works but the GA mic doesnt work. Does anyone have a used
mic for a good price that might work or a comtronic headset with mic?
His landings are good. The one I tried a little higher involved dropping the plane
fairly hard and bouncing 3 times! Those gear legs are tough! I made the
last landing of the day and it was a perfect power off landing. I really don't
know what I did different.
Stalls: Is it normal for the MK III to give very little to no warning of an oncoming
power off stall? There is really no waring signs. the plane breaks at 45mph.
With power on the disrupted airflow over the wing spills into the prop making a
lot of prop noise but this is about 1 second before the plane stalls which doesn't
give much warning.
Thanks,
Grant
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| Subject: | Re: New "Kolbee" ... New to the Forum |
| From: | "Possums" <possums(at)bellsouth.net> |
Hose.A wrote:
> Thanks everyone for the advice on landing the Kolb. I intend to get a few hours
dual instruction before venturing out on my own.
>
> Per request, here is a pic of my "new" bird:
Just fly it to the ground.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8022448200127542755&hl=en
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2887020469201792731&hl=en
--------
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| From: | David Key <dhkey(at)msn.com> |
| Subject: | New "Kolbee" ... New to the Forum |
I respectfully disagree with the idea that you should not use flaps on land
ing.
From: NeilsenRM(at)comcast.netTo: kolb-list(at)matronics.comSubject: Re: Kolb-Lis
t: New "Kolbee" ... New to the ForumDate: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 14:10:28 -0400
Joe
As Ed has suggested your biggest problem is landing. Your experience will s
erve you poorly. On your first landings keep the power maybe on 25% till yo
u are within less than a foot of the ground. Then and only then cut the pow
er. Also don't use flaps at all. As you get more experience SLOWLY reduce t
he power you set for approach or set one notch of flap. Don't do both at th
e same time. In fact you may be better off adding a bit more power the firs
t time you use one notch of flaps. Some of us still carry some power with l
ots of experience. I like to carry some power because landing with one notc
h of flaps with some power will feel just like no power (engine out) with n
o flaps. I know this first hand. Some of us never use full flaps other than
for brief periods on approach to hit the landing point you want. There is
one of our members that uses full flaps and power off on all his landings b
ut I would wait for that after your first thousand landings and even then a
pproach it with added power. There will be those that will tell you I'm bei
ng too conservative but most GA pilots will have problems if they move too
fast to flaps and no power.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
----- Original Message -----
From: DAquaNut(at)aol.com
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 1:44 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: New "Kolbee" ... New to the Forum
Joe,
Welcome to the list. congrats on your new Kolb . The biggest difference
between your Kolb and what you are used to, is it has more drag and slows
down quickly. You dont want to flare it until you are close to the ground.
The closer the better. Actually you hardly flare at all. Just fly it to
about a foot off the ground and back of the throttle. If you flare like a c
onventional craft you are asking for trouble.
Good Luck,
Ed Diebel ( Firefly 62 In Houston) 80*
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| From: | "Ralph B" <ul15rhb(at)juno.com> |
>
> Guys:
>
> I need a secretary.
>
> Plan on departing for Alaska last week of June 2009.
>
> john h
> mkIII
John, you can hit the edit button on the right and edit what you just wrote, then
hit "submit" after your done.
--------
Ralph B
Original Firestar
N91493 E-AB
21 years flying it
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| From: | Larry Bourne <biglar(at)gogittum.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Vamoose for Sale |
Thanks for the thought, Dave. I've got a lot on my plate right now with
work, etc., and just won't be able to do it.
For those who weren't here when this came up a few years ago, Dave was
one of my 1st students when I became a scuba diving instructor back in
'69 in Van Nuys, CA. Good Memories, Dave ! ! ! Small world, too, eh ??
Vamoose' new owner is a real nice fella from San Diego who's been a
lurker on the Kolb List for several years now. I met him in Phoenix
(Sun City) - more or less half way - yesterday and made the
introductions. He'll probably - I hope - contact the List as well as
myself with questions and to introduce himself.
I hate to say it, but I felt only a small pang as he pulled out of the
restaurant parking lot with Vamoose in tow. More feelings of relief.
He was stopped by high winds in El Centro, CA last night, and I hope he
made it home OK later today. Good Luck, Jody. Lar.
Dave Rains wrote:
>
> Hey Lar, lets go scuba diving :D
> Now, we go way back!
> Sorry to hear you won't be at MV this year, won't be the same without you. Hope
Vamoose finds an appreciative new owner.
> Dave.
>
> --------
> Dave Rains
> N8086T
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
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>
>
>
--
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Santa Fe, NM
www.gogittum.com
www.gogittum.com/blog
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| From: | "Possums" <possums(at)bellsouth.net> |
John Hauck wrote:
> Hi Folks:
> Chow out the little mkIII and flew up to the factory last Wed. Wonderful
> flight. Logged 4.1hours on the way north. Friday morning headed south, made
it 7 sm from Rockwood, TN, ran into a brick wall, turned around and flew back
to TNK. Rain, low viz down and back. john h
> mkIII
Yeah - bout time.
Glad you made it back (tired of carrying the load while you we gone - nobody called)
- But you missed some interesting weather down here - haa.
--------
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| From: | "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: New "Kolbee" ... New to the Forum |
David
Ok. So tell us why.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
----- Original Message -----
From: David Key
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 9:34 PM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: New "Kolbee" ... New to the Forum
I respectfully disagree with the idea that you should not use flaps on
landing.
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From: NeilsenRM(at)comcast.net
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: New "Kolbee" ... New to the Forum
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 14:10:28 -0400
Joe
As Ed has suggested your biggest problem is landing. Your experience
will serve you poorly. On your first landings keep the power maybe on
25% till you are within less than a foot of the ground. Then and only
then cut the power. Also don't use flaps at all. As you get more
experience SLOWLY reduce the power you set for approach or set one notch
of flap. Don't do both at the same time. In fact you may be better off
adding a bit more power the first time you use one notch of flaps. Some
of us still carry some power with lots of experience. I like to carry
some power because landing with one notch of flaps with some power will
feel just like no power (engine out) with no flaps. I know this first
hand. Some of us never use full flaps other than for brief periods on
approach to hit the landing point you want. There is one of our members
that uses full flaps and power off on all his landings but I would wait
for that after your first thousand landings and even then approach it
with added power. There will be those that will tell you I'm being too
conservative but most GA pilots will have problems if they move too fast
to flaps and no power.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
----- Original Message -----
From: DAquaNut(at)aol.com
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 1:44 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: New "Kolbee" ... New to the Forum
Joe,
Welcome to the list. congrats on your new Kolb . The biggest
difference between your Kolb and what you are used to, is it has more
drag and slows down quickly. You dont want to flare it until you are
close to the ground. The closer the better. Actually you hardly flare
at all. Just fly it to about a foot off the ground and back of the
throttle. If you flare like a conventional craft you are asking for
trouble.
Good Luck,
Ed Diebel ( Firefly 62 In
Houston) 80* today
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| From: | Larry Bourne <biglar(at)gogittum.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Vamoose for Sale |
Thanks for the thought, Russ. Looks like I'll be going north this
summer...........not enuf money in the kitty to retire and do multiple
cross-country trips, too, with diesel prices so
high. Lar.
Russ Kinne wrote:
>
> Big Lar
> Just crost my mind - when you make your swing thru w. FL I strongly
> suggest you stop at Wakulla Springs State Park & take their riverboat
> tour (all of $6!) -- it's just great. Gators, manateeses, lots birds,
> real genuine wildlife. You won't get muddy, but can roll around in a
> puddle if you feel you must -- this is NOT a touristy-type trip, even
> tho that's what it is. S. of Tallahassee on rte 363. AND Apalachicola
> oysters are the best I've ever had, out of the millions I've eaten.
> Do yourself a favor & put it on your trip schedule
> Chris Davis,who craSHED WITH NORM LABHART, LIVES NEARBY SOMEWHERE.
> Sorry, hit CAPS again.
> Fair winds,
> Russ
>
>
> On Mar 9, 2008, at 4:58 PM, Larry Bourne wrote:
>
>>
>> Yah, feel like I know you, too, Possum. It's been 10 years now. I
>> still have the video tape you sent, and still enjoy it and laugh at
>> it from time to time. I've met a lot of good folks all over the
>> continent from the List in my travels over those years, and met many
>> more at MV. It's been a good time.
>>
>> The Deep South visit I cancelled on the List a couple of weeks ago is
>> probably back on again. Circumstances have changed again, and the
>> problems in Canada are resolved, so I might just head East in June
>> for Lousy-ana's Atchafalaya Swamp, Okefenokee, and at least Central
>> Florida. We'll see. If I do go, I'll make a run up to (shudder)
>> Atlanta from Okefenokee, just for you. :-) I'd really like to find
>> some real swamp crawlers to take me out into that area and get wet
>> and dirty chasing snakes and 'gators and gar and turtles. :-) It's
>> always better with someone who really knows the area. I did send an
>> email a while back hoping to get an answer from that guy who said he
>> lived just north of Okefenokee, but never heard back from
>> him. Lar.
>>
>> possums wrote:
>>>
>>> At 01:16 PM 3/5/2008, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ol' Lar is getting ready to retire, >>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Lar,
>>>> very sorry to hear that Vamoose is going in preparation for your
>>>> retirement.
>>>
>>> Me too..... Sorry I never got to meet you in person.
>>> I know we almost got together once or twice.
>>> Feel like I know got to know you after all these years anyway
>>> from looking at your web site and talking to you on the Kolb site.
>>> If you're ever down South - "come see us"
>>> Stan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Santa Fe, NM
www.gogittum.com
www.gogittum.com/blog
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| From: | possums <possums(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Vamoose for Sale |
At 10:50 PM 3/16/2008, you wrote:
>
>Thanks for the thought, Russ. Looks like I'll be going north this
>summer...........not enuf money
This is funny - I don't care who you are:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvIGy9w0K4s
Larry ............ stay in touch with us or we'll be talkin' bout you.
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| From: | DAquaNut(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Firestar Versus Firefly |
Group,
I have had a question about the safety of the Firefly in windy
conditions. Anyone have a fair amount in a Firefly AND a Firestar? Just pondering
the differences. The Firestar weighs more but it also has more wing area.
Anyone know which one has the highest wing loading. Lastly, If a Firestar and
a
Firefly were being flown cross country would a Firefly be more vulnerable if
the wind got a little brisk, or would they both behave about the same.
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| From: | David Key <dhkey(at)msn.com> |
| Subject: | New "Kolbee" ... New to the Forum |
Because the dreaded Kolb drop, or stall is what it used to be called occurs
a little later and a little slower which gives the pilot a little more tim
e to make adjustments in the landing environment. Kolb steering is a bit ea
sier to tackle the slower you are going. It's the way that I would teach it
.
From: NeilsenRM(at)comcast.netTo: kolb-list(at)matronics.comSubject: Re: Kolb-Lis
t: New "Kolbee" ... New to the ForumDate: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:42:15 -0400
David
Ok. So tell us why.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
----- Original Message -----
From: David Key
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 9:34 PM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: New "Kolbee" ... New to the Forum
I respectfully disagree with the idea that you should not use flaps on land
ing.
From: NeilsenRM(at)comcast.netTo: kolb-list(at)matronics.comSubject: Re: Kolb-Lis
t: New "Kolbee" ... New to the ForumDate: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 14:10:28 -0400
Joe
As Ed has suggested your biggest problem is landing. Your experience will s
erve you poorly. On your first landings keep the power maybe on 25% till yo
u are within less than a foot of the ground. Then and only then cut the pow
er. Also don't use flaps at all. As you get more experience SLOWLY reduce t
he power you set for approach or set one notch of flap. Don't do both at th
e same time. In fact you may be better off adding a bit more power the firs
t time you use one notch of flaps. Some of us still carry some power with l
ots of experience. I like to carry some power because landing with one notc
h of flaps with some power will feel just like no power (engine out) with n
o flaps. I know this first hand. Some of us never use full flaps other than
for brief periods on approach to hit the landing point you want. There is
one of our members that uses full flaps and power off on all his landings b
ut I would wait for that after your first thousand landings and even then a
pproach it with added power. There will be those that will tell you I'm bei
ng too conservative but most GA pilots will have problems if they move too
fast to flaps and no power.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
----- Original Message -----
From: DAquaNut(at)aol.com
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 1:44 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: New "Kolbee" ... New to the Forum
Joe,
Welcome to the list. congrats on your new Kolb . The biggest difference
between your Kolb and what you are used to, is it has more drag and slows
down quickly. You dont want to flare it until you are close to the ground.
The closer the better. Actually you hardly flare at all. Just fly it to
about a foot off the ground and back of the throttle. If you flare like a c
onventional craft you are asking for trouble.
Good Luck,
Ed Diebel ( Firefly 62 In Houston) 80*
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| Subject: | Re: New "Kolbee" ... New to the Forum |
| From: | "Hose.A" <jreaves57(at)yahoo.com> |
planecrazzzy wrote:
> Is That a 582 on yer Bird ?
>
> Gotta Fly...
> Mike & "Jaz" FSII / 503 / N381PM
> .
> .
> .
Yep. That's a 582 allright.
[Mr. Green]
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| Subject: | Re: FireStar Cockpit Noise Reduction? |
| From: | "The BaronVonEvil" <grageda(at)innw.net> |
Hi All,
Well I got the prop hub extension on and tried it today. It made a noticeable difference
in the cockpit noise. I took my Db meter with me and measured about
a 3 to 4 db noise reduction in the cockpit area.
I also noticed the aileron torque tube on the right wing panel did not vibrate
nearly as much as before.
Overall Id say that the extension of 3" did help significantly with the noise I
was experiencing and reduced propeller tip pressure induced vibration to the
airframe.
The propeller is now at about 5" from the aileron torque tubes and this seems to
be the magic number.
I would recommend this modification for anyone considering it.
Again thanks for all the Advice,
Carlos G
AKA
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| From: | robert bean <slyck(at)frontiernet.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Takeoff & landing & stall help |
Grant, I'll reply to one of your questions......
On 16, Mar 2008, at 8:33 PM, grantr wrote:
>
> Is it ok to hold the tail on the ground until rotation speed?
>
Just once I tried the old "jump takeoff" technique I used on the
Aeronca 11AC
with my MkIII. -Stick hard back to liftoff. Not a good method.
Let the plane lighten up on its own and fly off when it feels like it.
This is, of course, with stock aluminum legs. It might be a
different plane
with long legs.
BB
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>
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| Subject: | Re: Hose.A's plane |
| From: | "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot1(at)tx.rr.com> |
Hi All,
"Think that is a MKIII with a 582 Rotax. "
For all the Kolbers that were at the 2003 TNK Homecoming, you will recognize the
plane as the one built and flown there by Bob Brocious.
--------
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Arlington, TX
Kolbra, 912ULS, 1580 hours
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| Subject: | Re: Hose.A's plane |
| From: | "Hose.A" <jreaves57(at)yahoo.com> |
John Williamson wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> "Think that is a MKIII with a 582 Rotax. "
>
> For all the Kolbers that were at the 2004 TNK Homecoming, you will recognize
the plane as the one built and flown there by Bob Brocious.
Both John and John are correct.
--------
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| From: | "Tony Oldman" <aoldman(at)xtra.co.nz> |
| Subject: | Re: New "Kolbee" ... New to the Forum |
I will add my two bobs worth here on how I do it. Two up long finals
,60mph at about 300 to 500 agl depending on where the runway is, reduce
speed to 55mph and full flap . Use the throttle/side slip to put
yourself on the spot you have picked to touch down. Most times from 300
ft there is no need to touch the throttle again. My suggestion for some
one landing a MK111c for the first few times would be to make all
approaches under power with plenty of flap. Doing it this way will get
you out of trouble if you miss judge something at the last moment . I
always take off with 50% flap,lift the tail about 30 mph and rotate at
50 to 55 hold the nose down momunteraly then point the nose at the sky
and maintain a steady 55 /60 to 1000 ft.
Flying solo I reduce the speeds by about 5mph.I also prefer to use grass
to land on .My first couple of attemps of taking off on a sealed runway
had much the same results as you have explained .To work out the speeds
for rotating I simply judge how far aft I have to pull the stick with a
givin AUW, If you try and rotate too slow the stick will be right back
and you will find you need to push it forward to get your best climb out
speed. After some practice you will be able to judge where the stick
needs to be with a given load. Practice.practice.practice. A very
forgiving and fun aircraft, just always remember if you pull the stick
back without either speed or power you are going to stop flying .It is
not forgiving at real slow speeds close to the ground.There are others
who may disagree with what have said here and thats OK. We all tend to
work out what suits us and develope our own operating practices from
there.
Stay safe up there
Tony from down under
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Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: New "Kolbee" ... New to the Forum
David
Ok. So tell us why.
Rick Neilsen
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From: David Key
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 9:34 PM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: New "Kolbee" ... New to the Forum
I respectfully disagree with the idea that you should not use flaps
on landing.
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Subject: Re: Kolb-List: New "Kolbee" ... New to the Forum
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 14:10:28 -0400
Joe
As Ed has suggested your biggest problem is landing. Your
experience will serve you poorly. On your first landings keep the power
maybe on 25% till you are within less than a foot of the ground. Then
and only then cut the power. Also don't use flaps at all. As you get
more experience SLOWLY reduce the power you set for approach or set one
notch of flap. Don't do both at the same time. In fact you may be better
off adding a bit more power the first time you use one notch of flaps.
Some of us still carry some power with lots of experience. I like to
carry some power because landing with one notch of flaps with some power
will feel just like no power (engine out) with no flaps. I know this
first hand. Some of us never use full flaps other than for brief periods
on approach to hit the landing point you want. There is one of our
members that uses full flaps and power off on all his landings but I
would wait for that after your first thousand landings and even then
approach it with added power. There will be those that will tell you I'm
being too conservative but most GA pilots will have problems if they
move too fast to flaps and no power.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
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Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 1:44 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: New "Kolbee" ... New to the Forum
Joe,
Welcome to the list. congrats on your new Kolb . The biggest
difference between your Kolb and what you are used to, is it has more
drag and slows down quickly. You dont want to flare it until you are
close to the ground. The closer the better. Actually you hardly flare
at all. Just fly it to about a foot off the ground and back of the
throttle. If you flare like a conventional craft you are asking for
trouble.
Good Luck,
Ed Diebel ( Firefly 62 In
Houston) 80* today
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| From: | "Denny Rowe" <rowedenny(at)windstream.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Firestar Versus Firefly |
Group,
I have had a question about the safety of the Firefly in windy
conditions. Anyone have a fair amount in a Firefly AND a Firestar? Just
pondering the differences. The Firestar weighs more but it also has
more wing area. Anyone know which one has the highest wing loading.
Lastly, If a Firestar and a Firefly were being flown cross country would
a Firefly be more vulnerable if the wind got a little brisk, or would
they both behave about the same.
Ed FF#62
Ed,
This is worth less than you payed for it myself only having flown an
old original Twinstar and my own Mk-3, but I would guess not much
differance between a Fly and a FS. In fact with the smaller wing I would
not be surprised if the quicker handling Firefly would be easier in
rough air as well as on the ground in high wind.
Less wing for the wind to blow around.
Denny Rowe
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| From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | fuel system plumbing, aux tank |
I'm adding an auxiliary tank to my UltraStar... I have a pretty good idea
of how I'll plumb it, but I'd like to collect some other opinions.
My US has the stock setup with two 1.75 gallon tanks under my legs. I'm at
a bit of a loss why the valves (the ones that plug into the tanks through a
rubber bushing) have two outlets. The manual says to cap one side of one
tank's valve, connect the two tanks together, and run the remaining outlet
to the engine. When I got my plane, there was no cap, the tanks were
connected as per the manual, and both outlets were connected together via a
"Y" fitting, thence to the engine. Other than replacing all the tubing, I
left it the way it was (but see below).
I've considered moving the bulb primer to one leg of the "Y". This would
require closing the other tank valve when priming, but with both valves
open would give the fuel a path around the primer bulb in case of blockage
(such a blockage in a brand new primer bulb almost ended my first flight
before I made it around the pattern once). Thoughts?
But on to the real reason for this post. The new 1.5 gallon (for a total
of 5 gallons) tank will be mounted, quick release, to the rear of the seat
(I'm actually mounting it to the seat back itself as I don't want to do any
welding on the cage). I'm also using a quick disconnect connector in the
fuel line so I can remove the tank if I need to carry it somewhere to be
filled, for example if I land out somewhere and have to get fuel. The
separate removable tank also makes oil mixing easy. Since this tank will
be above the other tanks, I'll open the valve to drain it down when the
others are half empty.
The issue is plumbing. The obvious thought is to simply connect it via a
tee fitting into the fuel lines. However, I'm concerned that once the aux
tank is empty the fuel pump will start sucking air from the aux tank
instead of fuel from the lower tanks, which would be a bad thing. :) The
alternative, which seems the best approach, is to connect the aux tank into
a new fitting on top of one of the main tanks... but I'm open to other
thoughts and suggestions. I'm also naturally concerned with getting any
debris from the drilling out of the tank (I'd rather not have to drain and
remove it, etc.), and drilling large holes in thin plastic is a PITA
anyway, so my thought is to drill the hole with a sharpened piece of tubing
rather than a conventional drill.
-Dana
--
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| From: | "beauford T" <beauford173(at)verizon.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Firestar Versus Firefly |
Ed:
Routinely operate the Fly in pretty fair (15-25 mph) breezes...no
problem except for folding and unfolding the wings in airish conditions
while working alone.. IMHO, that is the single most problematic part of
operating it in winds. On landings in higher crosswinds the first thing
it used to run out of was rudder, but the VG's on the vertical tail have
improved that situation. Mine has the big 15 inch chord ailerons and
they seem to give plenty of authority to handle crosswinds. I never
droop 'em while landing in crosswinds, and I would sure wheel land it
with some power if the crosswinds were stout. Never flew a Firestar, but
usually a shortwing gives a better ride in rough air...I know from
experience that's the case in Pipers. Not sure what cross country
vulnearability you are referring to... generally, if you can get it off
and back onto the ground in reusable condition, the cross country part
(aside from the fascinating 25 mph groundspeeds one occasionally sees)
is just a matter of how rough you like it and what you had for
breakfast.
WWYPFI
breezy beauford
ff-076
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Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Firestar Versus Firefly
I have had a question about the safety of the Firefly in
windy conditions. wing loading. ...cross country would a Firefly be more
vulnerable if the wind got a little brisk, or would they both behave
about the same.
Ed FF#62
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Firestar Versus Firefly |
Denny:
That is my impression between the two aircraft. The FF is better in
rough air, as is the SS, with their wings 5 feet shorter than the FS..
john h
mkIII
In fact with the smaller wing I would not be surprised if the
quicker handling Firefly would be easier in rough air as well as on the
ground in high wind.
Less wing for the wind to blow around.
Denny Rowe
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: fuel system plumbing, aux tank |
> I'm adding an auxiliary tank to my UltraStar... I have a pretty good idea
> of how I'll plumb it, but I'd like to collect some other opinions.
>
> -Dana
Dana:
First mod I did to my US a couple weeks after I started flying it in 1984,
was add a third 1.75 gal go cart tank inside the airframe above the engine
and behind my head. No welding required. I mounted it using aluminum
tubing and adel clamps. Used gravity to drain into the main tanks when
required. Believe I T'd into the main fuel line, used the valve on the tank
to control the fuel. Worked great.
john h
mkIII
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| From: | "pj.ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: New "Kolbee" ... New to the Forum |
Don't you recognize our National Anthem?? -- "Hose A, can't you see --"
Hi Russ,
these Mexicans get everywhere,` Jose, can you see.....`
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | fire fly questions |
| From: | greg(at)skyelink.com |
Hi all
Got a new firefly being bilt by bryan a costom air. any one know if you
can use aviation fuel in the mix in a rotax 447. How much different it is
to fly vs a mark 3x that i currently own,do they have any nasty stall
tendency. any imfo would be great still wont to have a flyin in the
spring for any one who wonts to attend. if the wind ever stops blowing in
virgina i will send pic so everyone can see the field. it works great for
me and i am a new pilot of only 35 hrs tt.
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| From: | "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM(at)comcast.net> |
The best part of this list is the way we share ideas. Also could we all
just call it a "stall" that is really what it is.
My understanding is that new pilots have a problem with how quickly
these planes slow from flying speed to a stall. There is also the
comfort level of seeing a rather panoramic view of the ground coming up
at them real fast. This is a fault of a Kolb (so to speak) because it
has such great visibility. The result is that people have this inborn
and in the case of GA pilots "training " that has them fairing too high.
Some new flyer just E-mailed us about this very issue very accurately
describing it.
I think that new pilots should set up their approach that has the lowest
decent rate/angle and gives the new pilot them most time to pull up and
adjust to a good landing flair. This can best be accomplished with no
flaps and some power. Flaps do two things, they increase the decent
rate/angle and they increase the rate of speed that these planes slow
down. You can set up gentle approach with flaps but you have to greatly
increase the power accomplish it. The main problem is loosing power on
approach would be a bad thing. The more power you have to depend on the
worse it could be. Flaps also produce more drag than they reduce stall
speed. Using flaps will slow the plane quicker than the reduced stall
speed will help.
Also someone suggested using slips and throttle to get to their desired
landing point. Slips are less effective than flaps so why not use flaps.
adjusting power, primarily increasing power greatly increases the odds
of a power failure. I believe the rule is that if you change the
throttle on approach it should only be to reduced power. Flaps can be
moved in and out as necessary on approach to get to your desired landing
point. You just have to adjust your pitch according to your flap usage.
As always worth what you paid for it.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
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From: David Key
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 12:01 AM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: New "Kolbee" ... New to the Forum
Because the dreaded Kolb drop, or stall is what it used to be called
occurs a little later and a little slower which gives the pilot a little
more time to make adjustments in the landing environment. Kolb steering
is a bit easier to tackle the slower you are going. It's the way that I
would teach it.
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From: NeilsenRM(at)comcast.net
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: New "Kolbee" ... New to the Forum
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:42:15 -0400
David
Ok. So tell us why.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
----- Original Message -----
From: David Key
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 9:34 PM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: New "Kolbee" ... New to the Forum
I respectfully disagree with the idea that you should not use
flaps on landing.
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From: NeilsenRM(at)comcast.net
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: New "Kolbee" ... New to the Forum
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 14:10:28 -0400
Joe
As Ed has suggested your biggest problem is landing. Your
experience will serve you poorly. On your first landings keep the power
maybe on 25% till you are within less than a foot of the ground. Then
and only then cut the power. Also don't use flaps at all. As you get
more experience SLOWLY reduce the power you set for approach or set one
notch of flap. Don't do both at the same time. In fact you may be better
off adding a bit more power the first time you use one notch of flaps.
Some of us still carry some power with lots of experience. I like to
carry some power because landing with one notch of flaps with some power
will feel just like no power (engine out) with no flaps. I know this
first hand. Some of us never use full flaps other than for brief periods
on approach to hit the landing point you want. There is one of our
members that uses full flaps and power off on all his landings but I
would wait for that after your first thousand landings and even then
approach it with added power. There will be those that will tell you I'm
being too conservative but most GA pilots will have problems if they
move too fast to flaps and no power.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
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From: DAquaNut(at)aol.com
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 1:44 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: New "Kolbee" ... New to the Forum
Joe,
Welcome to the list. congrats on your new Kolb . The
biggest difference between your Kolb and what you are used to, is it
has more drag and slows down quickly. You dont want to flare it until
you are close to the ground. The closer the better. Actually you
hardly flare at all. Just fly it to about a foot off the ground and back
of the throttle. If you flare like a conventional craft you are asking
for trouble.
Good Luck,
Ed Diebel ( Firefly 62 In
Houston) 80* today
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: New "Kolbee" ... New to the Forum |
> these Mexicans get everywhere,` Jose, can you see.....`
>
> Cheers
>
> Pat
Patrick:
How is your flying and your aircraft coming along?
john h
mkIII
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| From: | "pj.ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: New "Kolbee" ... New to the Forum |
How is your flying and your aircraft coming along?>>
John, you really know how to hurt a guy. After finally getting the plane
,and me, rechecked out and certicated with test flying etc all done just
before Xmas. I have run into electrical problems involving the fitting of a
larger battery, in a different place of course. This should be done in the
next couple of days and then I shall have to recalculate the C of G and then
with luck, Wx permitting, which is unlikely according to the forecast I may
be able to fly. Providing the strip is not still under water. We have
floods for the 3rd time this year. Gales and Very low temps forecast for
Easter.
Looking back. I wish that I had bought a plane from the second hand market
and then I would at least have continued to fly. during the protracted
rebuild and the follow on problems. Hindsight is always 20/20 vision.
Have fun on you planned trek to MV and beyond.
Cheers
Pat
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| From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: fuel system plumbing, aux tank |
At 09:00 AM 3/17/2008, John Hauck wrote:
>First mod I did to my US a couple weeks after I started flying it in 1984,
>was add a third 1.75 gal go cart tank inside the airframe above the engine
>and behind my head. No welding required. I mounted it using aluminum
>tubing and adel clamps. Used gravity to drain into the main tanks when
>required. Believe I T'd into the main fuel line, used the valve on the
>tank to control the fuel. Worked great.
Great minds think alike :)
I had considered doing the Adel clamp thing, but the shape of the tank and
the routing of the control cables, etc., seems to make the seat back
mounting more logical, plus I have some nice aluminum channels that slip
perfectly over the tank flanges so I can slide it in instead of bolting
it... the tank I'm using is here:
http://fluids.flambeau.com/multipurpose_tanks/6.0_quart.html
I also considered adding a new 5 gallon tank above the engine and using the
original tank space for storage, but that was more work than I care to do
at the moment.
You didn't have any trouble with sucking air when the aux tank is empty?
-Dana
--
"640K of computer memory ought to be enough for anybody." - Bill Gates, 1981
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| From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Landing Stalls |
At 12:07 PM 3/17/2008, Richard & Martha Neilsen wrote:
>My understanding is that new pilots have a problem with how quickly these
>planes slow from flying speed to a stall. There is also the comfort level
>of seeing a rather panoramic view of the ground coming up at them real fast...
My background is GA (Taylorcraft, mostly) but that was 15 years ago... but
10 hours flying a borrowed Quicksilver got me more than ready for my first
flight in my UltraStar. Compared to a GA bird, the Quick's kinda like a
Kolb, only more so (you just dive at the runway, 'cuz no matter what you do
it's not going to float!).
-Dana
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| From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Takeoff & landing & stall help |
At 12:27 PM 3/17/2008, Kirby, Dennis CTR USAF AFMC MDA/AL wrote:
>And the Comtronics intercom will only work with Comtronics headsets...
>because of impedance differences between their headsets and GA headsets,
>the Comtronics intercom is not compatible...
Funny, though, my Comtronics helmet works perfectly with my Icom A24 radio,
which also supposedly works with GA headsets.
-Dana
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: fuel system plumbing, aux tank |
> You didn't have any trouble with sucking air when the aux tank is empty?
>
> -Dana
Dana:
No. Neither did the US. ;-)
Been 24 years so details are a little fuzzy. IIRC I turned off the fuel at
the aux tank when transfer was complete.
john h
mkIII
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Landing Stalls |
Dana:
Not to disagree, too much, but Kolbs will also float, especially when
you do not want them to. If you are in a tight situation and your Kolb
has no brakes, the Kolbs will float forever.
Amazing what ground effect and Kolbs will do. Get her right down there
a foot or so off the sod and she will float.
My MKIII with 40 degrees of flaps and it will float. One of the secrets
of getting a Kolb to float is to shoot your approach a little hotter
than normal.
I judge others landing mistakes by my own many times. This flight to
TNK and back I had a lot of time to think and to fly and land. We were
taught to hover a rotary wing by looking out ahead of the aircraft, not
down at the ground. We were taught to land them the same way, looking
out ahead of the aircraft. Landing a Kolb is no different in this
respect. Look out at the end of the runway when landing and the Kolb
will gentlely kiss moma earth. Look down at the ground where she is
going to drop in, and that is probably what she will do. Try it both
ways and see what happens. Hard to judge distance looking down.
john h
mkIII
Compared to a GA bird, the Quick's kinda like a Kolb, only more so
(you just dive at the runway, 'cuz no matter what you do it's not going
to float!).
-Dana
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| From: | Bob Noyer <a58r(at)verizon.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Landing Stalls |
I'm trying to remember in navy flight training, pre jets!, that we
were told to look out of cockpit, 30-30...meaning 30 degrees down,
and 30 from straight ahead on landing. My old eyeballs got no
calibration markers left, but some residuals work fer me....never
bent gear legs on FireFly.
regards,
Bob N. FireFly 070 Old Kolb
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/
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| From: | David Key <dhkey(at)msn.com> |
That makes a ton of sence, a lot more than I expected. I'd have to digest i
t for a altering my opinion.
But I also have to disagree about changing the flap setting on short final,
particulary retracting them if you are short. I adjusting power to adjust
desired landing point. You'd think we were in different sports.
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anding StallsDate: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:07:01 -0400
The best part of this list is the way we share ideas. Also could we all jus
t call it a "stall" that is really what it is.
My understanding is that new pilots have a problem with how quickly these p
lanes slow from flying speed to a stall. There is also the comfort level of
seeing a rather panoramic view of the ground coming up at them real fast.
This is a fault of a Kolb (so to speak) because it has such great visibilit
y. The result is that people have this inborn and in the case of GA pilots
"training " that has them fairing too high. Some new flyer just E-mailed us
about this very issue very accurately describing it.
I think that new pilots should set up their approach that has the lowest de
cent rate/angle and gives the new pilot them most time to pull up and adjus
t to a good landing flair. This can best be accomplished with no flaps and
some power. Flaps do two things, they increase the decent rate/angle and th
ey increase the rate of speed that these planes slow down. You can set up g
entle approach with flaps but you have to greatly increase the power accomp
lish it. The main problem is loosing power on approach would be a bad thing
. The more power you have to depend on the worse it could be. Flaps also pr
oduce more drag than they reduce stall speed. Using flaps will slow the pla
ne quicker than the reduced stall speed will help.
Also someone suggested using slips and throttle to get to their desired lan
ding point. Slips are less effective than flaps so why not use flaps. adjus
ting power, primarily increasing power greatly increases the odds of a powe
r failure. I believe the rule is that if you change the throttle on approac
h it should only be to reduced power. Flaps can be moved in and out as nece
ssary on approach to get to your desired landing point. You just have to ad
just your pitch according to your flap usage.
As always worth what you paid for it.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
----- Original Message -----
From: David Key
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 12:01 AM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: New "Kolbee" ... New to the Forum
Because the dreaded Kolb drop, or stall is what it used to be called occurs
a little later and a little slower which gives the pilot a little more tim
e to make adjustments in the landing environment. Kolb steering is a bit ea
sier to tackle the slower you are going. It's the way that I would teach it
.
From: NeilsenRM(at)comcast.netTo: kolb-list(at)matronics.comSubject: Re: Kolb-Lis
t: New "Kolbee" ... New to the ForumDate: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:42:15 -0400
David
Ok. So tell us why.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
----- Original Message -----
From: David Key
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 9:34 PM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: New "Kolbee" ... New to the Forum
I respectfully disagree with the idea that you should not use flaps on land
ing.
From: NeilsenRM(at)comcast.netTo: kolb-list(at)matronics.comSubject: Re: Kolb-Lis
t: New "Kolbee" ... New to the ForumDate: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 14:10:28 -0400
Joe
As Ed has suggested your biggest problem is landing. Your experience will s
erve you poorly. On your first landings keep the power maybe on 25% till yo
u are within less than a foot of the ground. Then and only then cut the pow
er. Also don't use flaps at all. As you get more experience SLOWLY reduce t
he power you set for approach or set one notch of flap. Don't do both at th
e same time. In fact you may be better off adding a bit more power the firs
t time you use one notch of flaps. Some of us still carry some power with l
ots of experience. I like to carry some power because landing with one notc
h of flaps with some power will feel just like no power (engine out) with n
o flaps. I know this first hand. Some of us never use full flaps other than
for brief periods on approach to hit the landing point you want. There is
one of our members that uses full flaps and power off on all his landings b
ut I would wait for that after your first thousand landings and even then a
pproach it with added power. There will be those that will tell you I'm bei
ng too conservative but most GA pilots will have problems if they move too
fast to flaps and no power.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
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Joe,
Welcome to the list. congrats on your new Kolb . The biggest difference
between your Kolb and what you are used to, is it has more drag and slows
down quickly. You dont want to flare it until you are close to the ground.
The closer the better. Actually you hardly flare at all. Just fly it to
about a foot off the ground and back of the throttle. If you flare like a c
onventional craft you are asking for trouble.
Good Luck,
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| From: | "Jimmy Young" <jdy100(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: fuel system plumbing, aux tank |
Dana,
FYI, I just installed 2 new 6 gal tanks in my Firestar II. With regards
to drilling holes, I had a lot of plastic cuttings in my new tanks after
I drilled the holes with a "Unibit" drill bit. I washed it all out with
some gas. So, from my experience if you cut holes, you will probably get
some debri in the tank.
Jimmy Young
FS II
Houston
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| Subject: | Re: New "Kolbee" ... New to the Forum |
| From: | "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
Regarding "missing" center section between wings on MkIII:
Attached are a couple photos of Bob Bean's MKIII (and my Allegro) with "missing"
center section. You can't see it in the photo very well but Bob made some Lexan
end plates (airflow fences) that are the shape of the airfoil plus about 2-3"
all around. According to my memory, the addition of the airflow fences made
a very big improvement compared to flying it without the fences. BB can chime
in any time if my memory is in error.
--------
Thom Riddle
N221FA Allegro 2000 912UL
N197BG FS1/447
--------------------
Believe nothing, no matter where you read it or who has said it, not even if I
have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.
- Buddha
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| From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Landing Stalls |
At 01:49 PM 3/17/2008, John Hauck wrote:
>Dana:
>
>Not to disagree, too much, but Kolbs will also float, especially when you
>do not want them to. If you are in a tight situation and your Kolb has no
>brakes, the Kolbs will float forever
Actually it was the Quicksilver I was referring to that didn't float-- at
all. My US isn't that bad, though nothing compared to my old T-Craft...
T-Crafts were notorious floaters.
With only 10 hours in it, I'm still working out my preferred technique in
the US, what with no flaps and slips not really doing much of anything
except changing the angle the wind hits my face :)
-Dana
--
If aliens are smart enough to travel through space, why do they keep
abducting the dumbest people on earth?
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| Subject: | Re: fuel system plumbing, aux tank |
Where'd you get the tanks & how much? TNK told me their 6 gal. tanks would
not fit a FS II........
Howard Shackleford
FS II
SC
In a message dated 3/17/2008 4:46:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
jdy100(at)comcast.net writes:
FYI, I just installed 2 new 6 gal tanks in my Firestar II.
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| From: | "Jimmy Young" <jdy100(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Re: fuel system plumbing, aux tank |
Howard-
I got them from Travis at TNK. They fit, but it is a tight fit. Dan Glib
in Arizona owns a FS II and he gave me some advice which worked pretty
well. I'll send you off-line a pic he sent of his installation that
helped me. At his suggestion, I put velcro strips on the tanks where the
cage tubing comes in contact to prevent wear, as the 6 gal tanks are not
as thick walled as the 5 gal tanks are. It worked out nice. The tanks
actually hold 6.5 gal with a little air-room left, so it really gives
you 13 gal. If anyone else is interested in the pic, I've sent one to
the Matronics Photoshare site, but it says it will take a few days to
post it. Or, you can email me off line and I'll send you one.
Jimmy Young
FS II
Houston
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| From: | "Hose.A" <jreaves57(at)yahoo.com> |
Thanks Lanny. I've been talking to some folks about that very thing. Just gotta
figure out how it needs to be done.
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Re: fuel system plumbing, aux tank |
Jimmy:
You can attach a photo to the email you post to the Kolb List.
john h
If anyone else is interested in the pic, I've sent one to the
Matronics Photoshare site, but it says it will take a few days to post
it. Or, you can email me off line and I'll send you one.
Jimmy Young
FS II
Houston
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Size of messages |
Hi Jimmy:
I'm a year behind you and equipped with bifocals also.
My Outlook Express seems to dictate that the font size is dictated by
the size of font in the msg I am responding to. If I go above the
referenced msg, then my normal font size appears.
Hang in there and you guys print bigger.
There is a way to increase the size of print on a web page, but can not
remember how to do it. One of these young whipper snappers will likely
jump in here and help us out.
john h
mkIII
I am 70 and use bifocals and I am in that group.
Jimmy Hankinson
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| From: | "Jimmy Young" <jdy100(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | 6 gallon tanks in a FS II |
Replying to >Re: Re: Re: fuel system plumbing, aux tank
John,
Here is the pic of 2 - 6 gallon tanks purchased from TNK in a FS II,
hope it makes it. I Put mine in the same way. Credit for the pic goes to
Dan G. in AZ
Jimmy Young
FS II
Houston
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| Subject: | Re: Size of messages |
| From: | "grantr" <grant_richardson25(at)yahoo.com> |
I am not sure what you are using. I use the kolb list forums and do not use email to check this list. http://forums.matronics.com/viewforum.php?f=5
Anyway the easy way to enlarge the text when you are in your Internet explorer
web browser is to go to your View menu beside the edit menu and left click it.
This menu is at the top left of your screen. Then scroll down to text size
and chose largest.
That should have the text large enough for you.
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| Subject: | Re: Landing Stalls |
| From: | "Wade Lawicki" <wlawicki(at)yahoo.com> |
Dana,
Depends on what model Quick, I have a 2 place Sprint that with float for
what feels like forever! Of course that is comparing it to my FS.
Fly Safe,
Wade
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Nashville Tn.
FS 2
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| From: | robert bean <slyck(at)frontiernet.net> |
| Subject: | Re: New "Kolbee" ... New to the Forum |
I put the fences on after flying it with no center section. I could
tell a lot of lift was being lost.
The fences prevent spillage off the wing roots. I figure I have the
best arrangement due to
better airflow and less drag. Any airfoil that has an engine popping
up through it can't provide much lift.
I have since thought about a tip modification but won't mess with
that until I bash something.
BB
On 17, Mar 2008, at 5:15 PM, Thom Riddle wrote:
>
> Regarding "missing" center section between wings on MkIII:
>
> Attached are a couple photos of Bob Bean's MKIII (and my Allegro)
> with "missing" center section. You can't see it in the photo very
> well but Bob made some Lexan end plates (airflow fences) that are
> the shape of the airfoil plus about 2-3" all around. According to
> my memory, the addition of the airflow fences made a very big
> improvement compared to flying it without the fences. BB can chime
> in any time if my memory is in error.
>
> --------
> Thom Riddle
> N221FA Allegro 2000 912UL
> N197BG FS1/447
> --------------------
> Believe nothing, no matter where you read it or who has said it,
> not even if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason
> and your own common sense.
> - Buddha
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=170467#170467
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/
> bob_bean_and_mkiii__bethany_airpark_129.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/
> bean_mkiii_and_allegro__bethany_510.jpg
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar Versus Firefly |
I have always believe the FireFly was about the best little airplane at handling
crosswinds of anything in the 500 lb class....or maybe even 600 ponders...
If you want to see from the pilots seat how the Fly works in a 25 knot 90 degree
wind...take a look at the video on my brothers page here
http://www.dgmodels.rchomepage.com/index.htm
its about halfway down....past the models..
Look close at the very begining at the windsock...standing straight as a board...And
the FireFly was completely predictable and no sweat to control at all.
there were 2 Firestar owners there that day...hanger mates , and they both told
me after I was done they would dare fly in this wind...
And for what its worth, My Kitfox speedster is 700 lbs empty and is way too much
of a handful on the ground to fly comfortably in the same conditions. It will
do it...but its a thrill....and more risky.
FireStar land slower, and lifts more though, so for cross country...it might be
a better pick. with a 503 it oughtta be almost as fast as a FFly. Hard to say.
I alway thought if I build another FireFly, I would not cut the wing spar tube
and leave it as shipped, which would add almost 2 feet of wing.( 20 inchs if I
remember right ..not quite a FireStar...but all you would need is to add a rib
on each side and you make better use of the materials sent, and The Fly would
land a tad slower and haul a bit more without getting mushy...sort of a cross
between them.......... Splitting hairs maybe....
--------
Don G.
Central Illinois
Kitfox IV Speedster
Luscombe 8A
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
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| From: | "Jimmy Young" <jdy100(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: 6 gallon tanks in a FS II |
Sorry about that folks, no picture came through. I'll go the Matronics
photoshare route and try again.
Jimmy
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| From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: New "Kolbee" ... New to the Forum |
At 10:17 PM 3/17/2008, robert bean wrote:
>I put the fences on after flying it with no center section. I could
>tell a lot of lift was being lost.
>The fences prevent spillage off the wing roots. I figure I have the
>best arrangement due to
>better airflow and less drag. Any airfoil that has an engine popping
>up through it can't provide much lift.
Interesting. Hard to tell from the pictures, it looks like they're only
about 2" high, is that right? Surprising that such a low fence would have
that much effect. Another plus is that you could leave a cutout in the
root so you could see into the wing for inspection, and the lexan would
cover it. Do they get in the way of folding the wings?
-Dana
--
I started out with nothing. I still have most of it left.
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: 6 gallon tanks in a FS II |
Jimmy:
I got your photo on the previous post.
john h
mkIII
Sorry about that folks, no picture came through. I'll go the Matronics
photoshare route and try again.
Jimmy
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| From: | Russ Kinne <russ(at)rkiphoto.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Firestar Versus Firefly |
Don G
nice job, nice video, impressive performance of a FF in 25 kn 90*
xwind
But you fly final & land at idle power? That's what I'd do but I'v e
heard Kolbs should be flown onto the runway.
Any comments?
Russ
On Mar 17, 2008, at 11:55 PM, Don G wrote:
>
> I have always believe the FireFly was about the best little
> airplane at handling crosswinds of anything in the 500 lb
> class....or maybe even 600 ponders...
> If you want to see from the pilots seat how the Fly works in a 25
> knot 90 degree wind...take a look at the video on my brothers page
> here
>
> http://www.dgmodels.rchomepage.com/index.htm
>
> its about halfway down....past the models..
>
> Look close at the very begining at the windsock...standing straight
> as a board...And the FireFly was completely predictable and no
> sweat to control at all.
>
> there were 2 Firestar owners there that day...hanger mates , and
> they both told me after I was done they would dare fly in this wind...
> And for what its worth, My Kitfox speedster is 700 lbs empty and is
> way too much of a handful on the ground to fly comfortably in the
> same conditions. It will do it...but its a thrill....and more risky.
>
> FireStar land slower, and lifts more though, so for cross
> country...it might be a better pick. with a 503 it oughtta be
> almost as fast as a FFly. Hard to say.
> I alway thought if I build another FireFly, I would not cut the
> wing spar tube and leave it as shipped, which would add almost 2
> feet of wing.( 20 inchs if I remember right ..not quite a
> FireStar...but all you would need is to add a rib on each side and
> you make better use of the materials sent, and The Fly would land a
> tad slower and haul a bit more without getting mushy...sort of a
> cross between them.......... Splitting hairs maybe....
>
> --------
> Don G.
> Central Illinois
> Kitfox IV Speedster
> Luscombe 8A
>
> http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=170554#170554
>
>
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| From: | robert bean <slyck(at)frontiernet.net> |
Dana, since they are clear lexan they are difficult to photograph :)
They are 1/8" and the same scratch resistant sheet that I used for
the windshield and the doors.
Remarkably I only had to buy one sheet for the whole plane.
They are glued with GOOP to the root ends and are very secure. You
can use them to lift the wings.
I remove the wings every year and they require a bit more care in
storage. The nose end of the wing
has to be elevated so the fence hangs free. I'm sure a long period
of weight would cause a permanent set.
They extend roughly 2"" all around but not quite to the very rear.
So far this season has been a non-starter, nursing an old dog back to
health, getting the flu myself.
Maybe next week I'll get started on the next modification.
BB
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