Kolb-Archive.digest.vol-hs
September 09, 2008 - September 25, 2008
I worked one up. maybe a bit overkill.:D
ADULT
Transportation Authorization, Liability Release and Indemnity Form
ADULT PASSENGER: __________________________________
CHECKED PASSENGER ID: _____________DATE:______________
(Please Print) (Pilot or EA Initials)
PILOT: __________________________________________________________
AIRCRAFT (Type and N-Number):____________________________________________________
N___________________
DRIVER: ____________________________________VEHICLE (Type & License Number):_________________________________
I understand that flying is a very dangerous activity and this aircraft Kolb Mark
III N-1153 is an amateur build experimental airplane that does not meet
federal aviation safety standards.
I understand that the Owner of the Aircraft Mr. Grant Richardson is volunteering
his services, time, skills, flight, aircraft, vehicles, and other related
costs and expenses for the proposed flight. I, the undersigned Passenger and
or any person or organization associated with me, in consideration of the furnishing
of services, time, skills, flight, transportation, aircraft, vehicles,
and other related costs and expenses being arranged and provided, hereby agree
to forever release, discharge, and hold harmless Mr. Grant Richardson, aircraft
and vehicles owner(s) and/or lessor(s) (as applicable), each of their respective
divisions, parents, family members, subsidiaries, member organizations,
affiliates, chapters, officers, directors, agents, employees, volunteers, insurers,
heirs, assigns, and successors in interest, and any and all entities who
referred me to Mr. Grant Richardson, from any and all claims, demands, liability
(under the law of any county, municipality, state or country), fees, expenses,
and costs of any kind whatsoever that I and or any person or organization
associated with me may have or claim to have on account of or in any way related
to or arising from, directly or indirectly, the proposed transportation
and or flight, the cancellation or delay of the transportation, and/or the failure
to provide return transportation.
My release specifically includes, but is not limited to, any and all alleged negligent
acts, errors, and omissions of any of the released persons or entities.
In addition to economic damages, costs, and expenses, this release also specifically
covers any and all injuries, deaths, and conditions of health, whether
or not immediately apparent following the flight, or which may at any time thereafter
develop.
As evidenced by my signing this release, I and or any person or organization associated
with me regard the services, time, skills, flight, aircraft, transportation,
vehicles, and other related costs and expenses being furnished to me as
significant, material, and valuable consideration in exchange for this release,
and value this consideration as a significant, material factor in my well-being
and physical prosperity. I have read and fully understand this document.
I talked with Mr. Grant Richardson about my questions concerning the proposed
transportation and or flight. In connection with any portion of this document
that I did not understand, I understand that I had and continue to have the
right to obtain legal advice from an attorney of my choice.
This agreement shall be binding upon all the heirs at law, assigns, and successors
in interest of all parties hereto. This agreement may be enforced by any party
hereto and/or by any person or organization released in this agreement. I
agree that this agreement shall be governed and interpreted by the laws of the
state of Georgia.
PASSENGER SIGNATURE:
______________________________________________________________
DATE:_______________
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| Subject: | Re: I am officially a sport pilot! |
| From: | "cristalclear13" <cristalclearwaters(at)gmail.com> |
Cool! 8) Congratulations Grant!
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Cristal Waters
Mark II Twinstar
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| Subject: | Re: passengers/ law suits? |
| From: | "Jim ODay" <jimoday(at)hotmail.com> |
Thoughtful advice ---- "If I do take someone up, I make sure that I fly very carefully
and safely, keeping in mind that stall speeds are up and the plane will
be a lot heavier than I am used to. My best landings are reserved for passengers."
........ Well said Larry.
--------
Jim O'Day
Fargo, ND
Former Firestar II Builder/Pilot
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| From: | Jerry Jones <maderah2(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | Re: resonance 912 |
Terry,
...to clarify on my earlier comment on wood props on pushers, lemme
say although I'm not high on wood props on pushers, prolly not
aluminum either, after what you said, I do have a wood Sensenich on
my Jab-powered Skyranger, and in fact love their props. Wish I'd
known about the tests you describe. I'd have felt more comfortable
flying with one of their props after a loose bolt went through one on
takeoff (A&P screwup--me) on my Titan. Didn't know it at the time,
except the Titan went into a brief stall at its usual extreme takeoff
angle (had a 3300 on it giving me incredible climb, even when well
above Vy). Discovered the problem when I landed--prop was split
lengthwise and a small chunk was missing. Wrapped the amazing
invention, duct tape, on it and flew it home--praying all the way, of
course. Couldn't save the prop. Fixed a lot of others though with
baking soda and super glue after things went through them. Simple
and easy fix.
Jerry (aka Ricochet--story there too)
Hangar 2
>>
>>
> Pat,
>
> Because that is the only kind of statement he seems capable of!
>
> During college I worked for Sensenich Aircraft Propeller Co.
> building wood props. One of their tests was to put a propeller on
> a test stand and the throw objects through the spinning propeller
> to demonstrate, that even though chunks of wood would be torn off,
> the prop was still able to provide thrust and give the pilot a
> chance to land safely. You can imagine the excitement of that
> demo!!!! Do that with an aluminum prop and it will immediately
> fold back making flight impossible. There weren't any composite
> props back then, but it would have been an interesting test also!!
> Believe it or not, they would actually repair wood props that had
> the ends sheared off.
>
> I have also seen what a piece of hard candy will do to a carbon
> fiber prop when striking it. Causes major damage that is not easy
> to repair, but repairable. Metal hardware would do more damage.
>
> Again, we have someone talking that doesn't know what he is talking
> about!!
>
> Wood props are not fragile, do not have problems with moisture if
> kept in good repair and the hub does not keep on compressing after
> the first couple of times of torquing it up. I have 925 hr.s in
> front of my Tennessee wood prop and get great performance from it.
> Meets the published numbers for climb and cruise and I burn 2
> gallons per hour consistently. It survived a major strike from my
> left wheel when my leg strut broke over a year ago upon landing.
> The brake cable held on and swung the wheel assembly back up into
> the prop. Sent the prop back to Tennessee Propeller and they
> spliced and repaired the tips and did a great job. Been flying it
> ever since with total confidence!!
>
> But, then what do I know compared to someone who knows it all,
>
> Terry - FireFly #95
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fusing the Ignition System |
| From: | "Mnflyer" <gbsb2002(at)yahoo.com> |
Hi Steven, is right in that the HKS ignition is a CDI system that requires either
battery of alternator power to operate same as an automobile system, if properly
wired it is redundant in that it the engine will run on just the battery
or the alternator.
Whereas the 912 uses a magneto type (self generating) ignition and the 30 amp fuse
/ CB would be for the main alternator electrical system.
--------
GB
MNFlyer
Flying a HKS Kitfox III
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| Subject: | Re: resonance 912 |
| From: | "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com> |
tkrolfe(at)toast.net wrote:
>
>
> Again, we have someone talking that doesn't know what he is talking about!!
>
> Wood props are not fragile,
>
>
Terry,
Despite all Terry wrote about working and having knowledge of all these propeller
tests, Terry is JUST PLAIN WRONG.
Wood props are very fragile, and are very likely to be broken by something coming
off a pusher plane like a Kolb. This is a very well known fact.
If anyone out there is starting to wonder after reading Terrys very misleading
post, read this:
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/418892/four_disadvantages_of_aircraft_propellers.html
http://users.hunterlink.net.au/~dddj/Powershift.htm
Terry claims that "Again, we have someone talking that doesn't know what he is
talking about!! "
Its pretty sad that a guy that likes to make this claim is the one that is posting
bad information.
Mike
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"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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| From: | "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM(at)comcast.net> |
Lets ALL keep it nice.
I would personally not have a wood prop on my MKIIIC. My experience has
proven to me that composite props are much better on our airplanes. On my
first plane I lost a wood prop in flight (it sheared the prop bolts and
literally flew off) due to seasonal changes in temperature and humidity. I
didn't know I needed to retorque the prop bolts at least twice a year
because of the shrinking and swelling of a wood prop. This may not be
necessary in all climates but it is in Michigan. I was also told that I
should always leave wood props in a horizontal position so that oils in the
wood would not migrate to one tip causing prop imbalance. I don't know for
sure about this information but that is what I was told.
My direct drive VW had a wood prop because wood props were the only props
that didn't cause crank shaft problems. During taxi testing I got a bit too
close to a tree and clipped a twig. I wasn't much over idle and the branch
where I clipped it was only about a 1/8 inch dia. but the prop split from
the tip almost to the hub.
Since switching to a redrive VW and a PowerFin Prop I lost a 5/16 bolt X 3
inches long from a starter mount. The bolt went thru the prop at cruise
RPMs. It got my attention and I subsequently landed to check things out. The
prop was damaged but serviceable enough to fly almost 400 miles home.
You do what you feel is best but I prefer a composite prop.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
----- Original Message -----
From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 2:23 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: resonance 912
>
>
> tkrolfe(at)toast.net wrote:
>>
>>
>> Again, we have someone talking that doesn't know what he is talking
>> about!!
>>
>> Wood props are not fragile,
>>
>>
>
>
> Terry,
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| From: | "Kirby, Dennis CTR USAF AFMC MDA/AL" <Dennis.Kirby(at)kirtland.af.mil> |
<< The tygon and clear vinyl type fuel lines are substandard and cheap
... >>
Grant -
I'll second JetPilot's statement above, and will back it up with this
short story:
(OK - maybe a medium length story) (This all happened to me in the past
month.)
I installed new fuel tanks in my Mark-3 (2 x 6 gal) recently.
They are the stock, top-feed type tanks, with the stainless 1/4" pipe
dropping down into the tank. At the bottom end of the SS pipe is a
5-inch piece of flexible fuel hose, the other end of which is connected
to the finger screen, which rests on the bottom of the tank.
When installing these new tanks in June, I used Tygon for those two
5-inch pieces of flexible fuel line in each tank, for the finger
screens. It was new, unused tubing that I happened to have in my
aircraft supply bin, so I used it. It was in brand new condition -
soft, flexible, very rubbery. Since there is zero stress on that little
piece of fuel line sitting at the bottom of the tank, I figured it would
be OK. I was wrong.
(NOTE - the entire rest of my fuel system is plumbed using the black
Neoprene automotive fuel line, as you've seen recommended already in
this thread.)
After only 3 months of sitting in gasoline, that piece of flex line lost
its flexibility, and actually expanded a little bit. I discovered this
last week when I went to start the engine, and I turned on the electric
fuel pump (before starting the engine). I can always confirm that the
EFP is pushing fuel uphill to the engine when I see the fuel bubbling
though the clear glass fuel filter, located up at engine level.
I saw no fuel flowing through the fuel filter, even though the EFP was
on.
(Here's a plug for being able to see your fuel somewhere in the fuel
circuit, even if only at one point!)
The tanks each still had a gallon of gas, so the pickup screens were
well submerged in fuel. But the junction of the flex line and SS pipe
was ABOVE the fuel level, and air was being sucked into the fuel line
from the space between the inside of the flex line and the SS pickup
pipe. I couldn't believe that Tygon would lose its flexibility so
quickly from sitting in gas.
Right away, I replaced the Tygon with the black Neoprene auto fuel line
(I use Gates, heavy wall), and all is well again.
Dennis Kirby
Mark-3 Classic, N93DK
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| From: | "boyd" <by0ung(at)brigham.net> |
II want to replace my fuel lines. What is the best line to replace it with.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I went to the NAPA store and bought some black rubber fuel line,,, been on
for about 5 years now.. the plastic line that came with the kit gave me
problems after 6 months,,, the clamps that came with the kit left a very
small area on the fuel line fittings that would not seal well.... while
checking on some staining on 1 carb, I was doing some pressure test and
found a very small leak coming from the connection... put in the black hose
and never found any problem since.
Boyd Young
MkIIIC
500 + hours
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| From: | Eugene Zimmerman <ez(at)embarqmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Kolb List re: resonance 912 |
Bill,
Interesting 3D message illusion.
Took me awhile to "get" it though.
Gene
On Sep 8, 2008, at 9:51 AM, william sullivan wrote:
> Ted- I have no experience, but I think somebody went through this
> a few months ago. Do you have a spare prop you could switch out?
>
> Bill Sullivan
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| From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Wood props, was: Re: wood resonance 912 |
At 02:23 PM 9/9/2008, JetPilot wrote:
>Wood props are very fragile, and are very likely to be broken by something
>coming off a pusher plane like a Kolb. This is a very well known fact.
>
>If anyone out there is starting to wonder after reading Terrys very
>misleading post, read this:
>
>http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/418892/four_disadvantages_of_aircraft_propellers.html
>
>http://users.hunterlink.net.au/~dddj/Powershift.htm
Mike,
I don't agree.
You can't make a blanket statement that "wood props are more fragile" or
"composite props are better". Wood is more susceptible to some kinds of
damage and less susceptible to other kinds.
I have seen (especially in the PPG world) wood props in regular use with
all kinds of damage, and they hold together. I know one pilot whose
headphones went through the [wood] prop right on takeoff. He said it was
vibrating so bad that he thought the engine mounts would snap, but he made
it up and aro
und for a safe landing. OTOH I have seen composite props come completely
apart due to what seemed a very minor nick, or even no visible damage at
all. Wood props are softer, so they're more likely to suffer abrasion
damage (a major factor for seaplanes or airboats with water spray), but
that very softness means that a nick is less likely to propagate into a
major crack.
Also not all composite props are the same. The Warp Drive props, as I
understand, are solid, rather heavy, and durable. Powerfins, with their
relatively thin skin and foam core, are much more easily damaged. I don't
know much about the Ivos.
Wood has some other advantages as well as disadvantages. A wood prop is
easier to repair if it is damaged. It can get out of balance, especially
if damaged or neglected (but not because it's stored vertical, that's an
old wives tale). A composite or metal prop can be more efficient due to
the thinner blades, but a wood prop is easier to modify or "tweak" if it's
not quite right. And wood is less expensive (I hesitate to say "cheaper").
The websites you cited are both either misleading to this discussion or
plain wrong. I agree that a composite prop is probably better for an
airboat, but only due to the specifics of their application. OTOH, the
associatedcontent site has mostly misleading statements:
"If there is a small split on the propeller, it can easily travel up
through the wood grain and get larger and cause the propeller to fail. You
don't want this to happen in the air, so you need to make sure there are no
cracks or splits before you takeoff."
A small nick in an aluminum prop can also cause a crack to propagate, much
more likely than a similar nick in a wood prop.
"Propellers that are made from wood can warp over time. Changes in
temperature and humidity can easily cause wood propellers to warp."
I have never seen a wood prop warp, though I suppose it's possible if left
out in the rain with badly worn finish.
"Four stroke engines generally run smoother when used with heavier
propellers. Unfortunately, most wood propellers are very lightweight.
Therefore, they usually aren't suitable to use with four stroke engines."
Tell that to the designers, builders, and owners of hundreds of thousands
of 4-stroke powered aircraft with wood props.
"The density of wood is not uniform. Therefore, two blades of a propeller
that is made from wood may not balance with each other. This can be the
cause even when the blades have identical shapes."
That's not a problem so much as an issue that must be dealt with in
manufacturing. Careful attention to wood selection, final shaping, and
finishing means any new wood prop you buy from a reputable manufacturer
will balance properly.
-Dana
--
People are more violently opposed to fur than leather because it's safer
to pick on rich women than biker gangs.
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| From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
At 04:57 PM 9/9/2008, Kirby, Dennis CTR USAF AFMC MDA/AL wrote:
>...When installing these new tanks in June, I used Tygon for those two
>5-inch pieces of flexible fuel line in each tank...
>...air was being sucked into the fuel line
>from the space between the inside of the flex line and the SS pickup
>pipe. I couldn't believe that Tygon would lose its flexibility so
>quickly from sitting in gas.
Dennis, since we've been discussing various types of tubing, what kind of
Tygon was it? Their yellow "Fuel and Lubricant Tubing"? Or something else?
-Dana
--
People are more violently opposed to fur than leather because it's safer
to pick on rich women than biker gangs.
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| From: | william sullivan <williamtsullivan(at)att.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Kolb List re: resonance 912 |
Gene- I have no idea what you are talking about!- I can't make out anythi
ng, and don't know whose computer puts the "3D" there.
-
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------------------ Bill
--- On Tue, 9/9/08, Eugene Zimmerman wrote:
From: Eugene Zimmerman <ez(at)embarqmail.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb List re: resonance 912
Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 9:32 PM
Bill,
-Interesting -3D -message illusion.-
Took me awhile to "get" it though.
Gene
On Sep 8, 2008, at 9:51 AM, william sullivan wrote:
- Ted- I have no experience, but- I think somebody went through this a
few months ago.- Do you have a spare prop you could switch out?
-
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--------------- Bill Sullivan
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| From: | TK <tkrolfe(at)toast.net> |
Is it me or does anyone else find it strange that the most belligerent
and rude person on this list hides behind a pseudonym for his identity.
Is there a reason he doesn't want people to know who he is?!!! Most
everyone else signs with their real name and is known to the group.
While the rest of us might disagree we don't find it necessary to insult
the other person by calling them stupid and other names when they don't
agree. Of course, as long as some others on the list encourage his bad
behavior, he will continue to feed on it.
Maybe after he sells his plane, he will evaporate from here!!!!
Terry - FireFly #95
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| From: | "Charles Davis" <ceddavis(at)gmail.com> |
I think I'm one of the 2 individuals Terry mentions...:)
The key section from the relevant CFR George quoted is:
> (a) Receive and log ground and flight training from an authorized
instructor
in a make and model of light-sport aircraft that is *within the same set of
aircraft*
as the make and model of aircraft you intend to operate;
Here's an FAA link to the "Sets"
http://www.faa.gov/licenses_certificates/airmen_certification/sport_pilot/media/aircraft_sets.pdf
So, I have an AP-5, ASEL tricycle gear over 87kts (earned in an Evektor
Sportstar). However, this would not allow me to fly my Firefly, which is
AP-2, ASEL Tailwheel under 87kts. However, with a tail wheel endorsement
Aeronca Champ, I can legally fly the Firefly.
The problem I have is that the local FBO sold the Champ, and I'll need a
bi-annual soon. Technically, you could take the flight test "ground
observed" in a single place ELSA (I do not know of anyone who did). Does
any one know if the flight portion of the bi-annual can be done in a single
place?
Chuck Davis
Firefly N7057K
From: TK <tkrolfe(at)toast.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: LSA
George Alexander wrote:
>
>
> tc1917(at)bellsouth.net wrote:
>
>> I may be wrong here, correct me please, but I was under the impression
that
>> an AP-1 rating was a lesser rating than AP-2. In other words, if you had
an
>> AP-2, you were qualified in tail dragger AND nose wheel. You were
stepping
>> up a notch. Same as if you are rated for over 87 knots, you were
>> automatically qualified for the lesser of the ratings. Any other way of
>> interpreting it would be ridiculous.
>>
>
>
> Ted:
>
> For Sport Pilot, no "ranking" of LSA sets. The practical test for Sport
Pilot
gets you a set endorsement for the aircraft used. Have to do additional
work
for the others you want/need. Differences in handling characteristics is
the
reason given for the additional requirement(s).
>
> >From the FARs.......
>
> Sec. 61.323
>
> How do I obtain privileges to operate a make and model of light-sport
aircraft
in the same category and class within a different set of aircraft?
>
> If you hold a sport pilot certificate and seek to operate a make and model
of
light-sport aircraft in the same category and class but within a different
set
of aircraft as the make and model of aircraft for which you have received an
endorsement, you must-
> (a) Receive and log ground and flight training from an authorized
instructor
in a make and model of light-sport aircraft that is within the same set of
aircraft
as the make and model of aircraft you intend to operate;
> (b) Receive a logbook endorsement from the authorized instructor who
provided
you with the aircraft specific training specified in paragraph (a) of this
section
certifying you are proficient to operate the specific make and model of
light-sport aircraft.
>
> --------
> George Alexander
> FS II R503 N709FS
> http://gtalexander.home.att.
>
George,
If I understand you correctly, if I were to get certified as a Sport
Pilot in an Aeronca then I would only be allowed to fly that type of
plane? What does that do to those that have transitioned from a GA
licenses to Sport Pilot. Are they then restricted to only flying their
current aircraft type? I know of two individuals that have transitioned
to Sport Pilot and was wondering how it would affect them.
I'm having second thoughts about Sport Pilot certification if that is
the restriction.
Terry - FireFly #95
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| From: | russ kinne <russ(at)rkiphoto.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Kolb List re: resonance 912 |
Bill
I had trouble too -- this is all I got:
>
> On Sep 8, 2008, at 9:51 AM, william sullivan wrote:
>
>> Ted- I have no experience, but I think somebody went through
>> this a few months ago. Do you have a spare prop you could switch
>> out?
>>
>> Bill Sullivan
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Tygon F4040A FUEL LINE |
| From: | "beauford" <beauford(at)tampabay.rr.com> |
Brother Hague:
Had an interesting experience with the blue Bing down here... In service, it became
the Brown Bing... and in some instances, the Black Bing with a brown furry
side dish after about 5 months on the job. The puzzling aspect of the situation
was that the clear Tygon fuel line pieces installed in the same system for
the same period of time yellowed a little, but remained clean and unaffected
inside. They were still soft and flexible. The attached photo shows the strange
deterioration of the blue line, along with samples of the new blue stuff
from the same batch of the corrupted Bing line and another batch of blue line
obtained from another source.
I have no idea what caused this. I use only Amoco Premium gas and PZ air cooled
oil. I changed out the lines with clear Tygon and have had no recurrence of
this problem
Worth what ye paid fer it...
Non-Blue beauford
FF-076
Brandon, FL
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| From: | "Robert Laird" <rlaird(at)cavediver.com> |
I can't quote verse and scripture, but I don't think it's allowed for the
biannual.
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 6:40 PM, Charles Davis wrote:
> The problem I have is that the local FBO sold the Champ, and I'll need a
> bi-annual soon. Technically, you could take the flight test "ground
> observed" in a single place ELSA (I do not know of anyone who did). Does
> any one know if the flight portion of the bi-annual can be done in a single
> place?
>
> Chuck Davis
> Firefly N7057K
>
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| From: | "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com> |
tkrolfe(at)toast.net wrote:
> Is it me or does anyone else find it strange that the most belligerent
> and rude person on this list hides behind a pseudonym for his identity.
> Is there a reason he doesn't want people to know who he is?!!! Most
> everyone else signs with their real name and is known to the group.
> While the rest of us might disagree we don't find it necessary to insult
> the other person by calling them stupid and other names when they don't
> agree. Of course, as long as some others on the list encourage his bad
> behavior, he will continue to feed on it.
>
> Maybe after he sells his plane, he will evaporate from here!!!!
>
> Terry - FireFly #95
Terry,
I always sign my posts, sometimes with my full name, sometimes with my first name.
There has never been any hiding involved on my part, anyone that uses this
list knows this. I do not appreciate you resorting to lies to mislead this
group.
The last time things got ugly on this list, you jumped in with both feet posting
some of the most objectionable things this list has ever seen. Almost everyone
on this list has been able to move on from past ugliness, and let bygones
be bygones. Why do you feel the need to post very objectionable statements at
every opportunity ? Go read what you just posted... Having posted what you
just posted, your statements make you not only a liar, but a hypocrite. I am
sure everyone on the list will be thrilled to see that you are doing your best
to turn things ugly again.
Mike
--------
"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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| From: | "George Alexander" <gtalexander(at)att.net> |
cedavis wrote:
>
>
>
> The problem I have is that the local FBO sold the Champ, and I'll need a bi-annual
soon. Technically, you could take the flight test "ground observed" in
a single place ELSA (I do not know of anyone who did). Does any one know if the
flight portion of the bi-annual can be done in a single place?
>
> Chuck Davis
> Firefly N7057K
>
>
>
>
Chuck:
Don't think the flight instruction portion of the review is allowed in a single
place. Beyond the single place issue, don't think it matters what a/c you use.
As long as the instructor is willing..... Not even sure it has to be LSA.
--------
George Alexander
FS II R503 N709FS
http://gtalexander.home.att.net
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| From: | "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com> |
Rick,
I SAW the same experience with a wooden prop on a 447 on a trike that I fly. One
day a nylon strap came down and bounced off the tip of the wooden prop... Not
catch, but just bounce off the tip... I signaled the pilot to cut the engine
so that we could secure the strap. When the engine stopped, the result of
this very light strike was a large split from the tip to the hub. The nylon strap
did not have a mark on it...
The wooden prop was beyond repair, so we replaced it with a Powerfin. The Powerfin
is quieter, smoother, and gives us better performance on the 447. Given
what I have seen first hand, and many reports like Ricks of wooden props taking
major damage due to the slightest nick, there is no way I would ever put a
wooden prop on a pusher plane. The balance and hub torque problems just make
a bad situation worse.
Wooden props have been around since the very beginning of flight, for many years
they were the only propeller option people had. There is a very good reason
that wooden props are almost never used on certified aircraft anymore. The
almost total and complete switch from wood to aluminum and composite propellers
did not happen for no reason. From small Cessnas and Light Sport airplanes,
to larger piston airplanes, almost no one is using wood anymore. Aside from
the few Nostalgic and antique repleca airplanes, wooden props are a thing of the
past. The vast majority of aircraft engineers and designers recognize that
wood propellers are inferior, and would never consider using them on modern aircraft.
Mike
--------
"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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| From: | "Jim Baker" <jlbaker(at)msbit.net> |
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> When installing these new tanks in June, I used Tygon for those two
> 5-inch pieces of flexible fuel line in each tank
snip...
> After only 3 months of sitting in gasoline, that piece of flex line lost
> its flexibility, and actually expanded a little bit.
Then, on the other side of the experience continuum....
I have fuel grade Tygon F-4040-A fuel and lubricant tubing at the
bottom of my tanks, in a setup similar to yours, and they've been
there for 13 years. Still like new with very minor swelling and no
cracks, abrasions.
There's a huge difference in Tygon formulations. Just happening to
have some yellow tubing lying around doesn't ensure that it's the
correct formulation. I'm sure that most folks are convinced that
Tygon is the Devil's own spawn and I'd have to say that assumption
would be correct...IF you haven't taken the time to research the
issue.
Jim Baker
580.788.2779
Elmore City, OK
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| From: | DAquaNut(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Tygon F4040A FUEL LINE |
In a message dated 9/9/2008 6:41:49 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
d-m-hague(at)comcast.net writes:
I still prefer the blue Bing line.
-Dana
I just replaced my fuel line with blue tubing I got from LEAF. It has , B.A.
I. on it Any idea what the B.A.I. stands for? I used this line for a year
and a half and it still seemed strong and reasonably soft
Ed D.
**************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog,
plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com.
(http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014)
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| From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Tygon F4040A FUEL LINE |
At 09:03 PM 9/9/2008, beauford wrote:
>Had an interesting experience with the blue Bing down here... In service,
>it became the Brown Bing... and in some instances, the Black Bing with a
>brown furry side dish after about 5 months on the job...
Interesting. The blue line that was on my Ultrastar when I bought it
looked like that, but I don't know how old it was. OTOH I have some blue
line on one of my PPG's and several years later it looks and feels just
like new.
I wonder if it's not chemical, but UV damage that does the clear tubing in?
-Dana
--
When only cops have guns, it's called a police state.
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| From: | "Denny Rowe" <rowedenny(at)windstream.net> |
Mike,
Calling Terry a liar and a hypocrite is a perfect example of your
ridiculously short fuse!
His being put off by your consistantly rude and derogatory personal attacks
is most likely the reason he did not pick up on your real name when you use
it, he probably quits reading half way through most of your posts.
Take your own advise and reread what you posted. Your rude comments in the
past have really put a lot of us off.
Denny Rowe, owner of both wood and composite propellers that likes em both.
Also have destroyed both kinds (not on my Kolb) no fault of the props.
>
> Terry,
>
> I always sign my posts, sometimes with my full name, sometimes with my
> first name. There has never been any hiding involved on my part, anyone
> that uses this list knows this. I do not appreciate you resorting to lies
> to mislead this group.
>
> The last time things got ugly on this list, you jumped in with both feet
> posting some of the most objectionable things this list has ever seen.
> Almost everyone on this list has been able to move on from past ugliness,
> and let bygones be bygones. Why do you feel the need to post very
> objectionable statements at every opportunity ? Go read what you just
> posted... Having posted what you just posted, your statements make you not
> only a liar, but a hypocrite. I am sure everyone on the list will be
> thrilled to see that you are doing your best to turn things ugly again.
>
> Mike
>
> --------
> "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you
> could have !!!
>
> Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
>
>
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| From: | "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
Terry, it's like this: the only way you will ever get any relief from this problem
of bad manners and rudeness is to give up on the list and find something else
to do.
Guess how I know this?
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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| From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Tygon F4040A FUEL LINE |
At 10:31 PM 9/9/2008, DAquaNut(at)aol.com wrote:
>
> I just replaced my fuel line with blue tubing I got from LEAF. It
> has , B.A. I. on it Any idea what the B.A.I. stands for? I used this
> line for a year and a half and it still seemed strong and reasonably soft
>
B.A.I. = Bing Agency International
-Dana
--
As I learn the innermost secrets of the people around me, they reward me
in many ways to keep me quiet.
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| Subject: | Re: resonance 912 |
| From: | "John Bickham" <gearbender(at)bellsouth.net> |
Ted,
Sorry for late response. Using Internet at work. Still without power from Gustav
(day 8).
Do not know if this will be helpful. I had a drumming problem when I first built
my Mark IIIC w/ 912. It was my one and only attempt at plane building. I opted
for the full enclosure. Problem was that the cage was fabricated with a
slight bow outward at the bulkhead at shoulder level. This resulted in a small
gap (less than 1/8") between the fabric and a couple of the long tubes on the
side of the cage. I couldn't see it with a string line. With some speed and
a big prop, the drumming would start.
On the rebuild/modification, I used John Williamson's method. Started with fabric
on bottom and rolled over each tube and glued. Overlapped and taped a joint
to start for the next section. I'm not a fabric stitcher.
Made a big difference. Much quieter and a bit faster. Not sure how much the fabric
drumming affected speed. My plane is faster after the rebuild and I'm leaning
to that as a big contributor. That or I knocked it into trim with that
high/hard landing.
Long shot but may help. I remember looking at your plane's instrument panel but
did not pay attention to the rear area. Do not know if this will apply.
best wishes!
--------
Thanks too much,
John Bickham
Mark III-C w/ 912UL
St. Francisville, LA
"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as slow as you could have
!!!
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| From: | TheWanderingWench <thewanderingwench(at)yahoo.com> |
Chuck Davis wrote:
> Technically, you could take the flight
> test "ground
> observed" in a single place ELSA (I do not know of
> anyone who did). Does
> any one know if the flight portion of the bi-annual can be
> done in a single
> place?
>
I took my practical flight test in my single seat ELSA Maxair Drifter, with the
examiner observing from the ground. Now that my bi-annual is coming up, I have
checked with EAA and the FAA and have been told that the bi-annual MUST be taken
in a two-seater with the examiner...because the bi-annual is meant to be
for instruction, not a test. If John W. were still with us, he could quote the
regs.
Arty Trost
Maxair Drifter
Sandy, Oregon
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| From: | "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com> |
Richard Pike wrote:
> Terry, it's like this: the only way you will ever get any relief from this problem
of bad manners and rudeness is to give up on the list and find something
else to do.
>
> Guess how I know this?
>
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Richard,
The only way you will ever get relief from this problem is to not to try to start
shit and rekindle bad feelings at every opportunity. If anyone should know
this, it should be you... You are a pretty poor excuse for a preacher, you sure
do not practice what the bible teaches when you support this kind of behavior
by Terry. If you believe in God, one day you will have to answer to him for
it.
Lets see here, Terry starts this shit again with multiple personal attacks, and
then you bad apples criticize me for responding. Its obvious that you don't
give a damn about right and wrong. There is not a one of you that would sit
back and take something like Terry posted.
So if a few of you bad apples support this behavior by Terry, then don't complain
when things get ugly. Don't post unwarranted personal attacks then cry like
babies when things get ugly on the list. There are a lot of people on this
list that see how you bad apples operate, you are only making yourselves look
like the hypocrites you are. We have been down this road before.
Mike
--------
"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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| From: | "John Bickham" <gearbender(at)bellsouth.net> |
> We have been down this road before.
Your right and your always the one in the middle of the road!
I try my best to stay our of this stuff (nice word version). Can't let you insult
a good man like the Rev.
I wish you much success in selling your plane as soon as possible. There is a
silent majority that has chosen not to post to or participate in this list because
of this kind of stuff, of which you are the common denominator. I've been
told this over and over by many people. A lot of them have (or had) a lot more
to contribute to the list than you and I.
I do wish you the best. But I can't let you keep thinking most of us agree with
you and your position.
Fly more, type less.
--------
Thanks too much,
John Bickham
Mark III-C w/ 912UL
St. Francisville, LA
"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as slow as you could have
!!!
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| From: | "David Lucas" <d_a_lucas(at)hotmail.com> |
Mike,
If a poll were to be conducted amongst all members, on a voluntary basis, regarding
the incredibly strong way you respond to issues which have offended many
on the list, would you accept the result ?
You may not set out to offend people in your own thinking, but, most surely, it
is the result that I see.
David Lucas
Not a Kolb owner/flyer yet, just 62 years experience of life !
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| From: | "pj.ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
If you believe in God, one day you will have to answer to him for it.>>
Good grief! If you think God monitors this list, man, do you have problems
Seems a little like overkill to start invoking the Diety when there is that
little key marked `DELETE` sitting right there on the keyboard.
Come off it
Pat
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| From: | "pj.ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: passengers/ law suits? |
I worked one up. maybe a bit overkill.:<<
I know that you are a litigious lot over there but that `blood chit` is
frightening. I just checked on of mine and it says
"I the undersigned understand that the flight I am taking is not a
commercial flight and that the pilot is absolved from any resposibilty or
claim resulting in an accident. Signed and dated"
As I said in my original post I don`t think one of these chits has ever been
tested in court and it doesn`t pretend to be a legal document. We just don`t
sue for a pastime over here, but unfortunately we are slowly moving in your
direction.
Pat
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| From: | "Ted Cowan" <tc1917(at)bellsouth.net> |
Firstly, let me say to these two guys (men?), both of you shut up, nobody
wants to hear it. Take it to personal mail and not on the list. This is a
great list for information and experiences, not for arguing. One mans idea
is another mans folly. One size dont fit all. You have to pick and chose
what you want to do and how to do it. This list and its wonderful
participants only SUGGEST things based on their own experience. Nobody HAS
to do anything. If you dont like the advice, dont take it!!! Saying nasty
things to each other on this list is terrible. Shows your intelligence
level. Thats it.
Now, on to the resonance on my slingshot with a 912. Have tested out many
of the theories mentioned so far by several great guys. One that I have not
tested out so far is by John Hauck about putting my windows in. May not
have time before homecoming to try it but hope I do. Lots of humidity out
there now. Just about everything has been checked and double checked. I am
going to pull the filters off my carbs and watch them while tied down under
power enough to create the rum rum. Might be one of the slides are moving
up and down slightly. Might be the boot leaking. Gotta check it out.
Called Miss. Lite and talked to Ronny Smith and he says his experience has
shown -- guess he knows of an instance -- that its the prop. Warp makes its
own troubles. He suggested the pulses from the exhaust of the titan exhaust
system hits the prop and causes the whop whop which is amplified by the warp
drive prop. He suggested I go to a Kiev Prop, about the same length.
States it is quiet and very efficient and less mass to spin. Has had very
good luck with them and are very much quieter and more efficient. He stated
it is NOT the gear box. I would have a lot of crap on the magnet in the
gear box and a chatter if it was loose. Great, another thousand bucks! I
just bought the spinner for my warp. I may have a whole warp system up for
sale soon. havent enough time to get the prop and test it before the
homecoming. That is no place to be testing something new on your plane.
Just wanted to let you all know of the updates on the rum rum problem. I
have what I would call a perfect aircraft (for myself) except for the rum
rum. If I can get that fixed, almost no matter what it cost, I will be a
very happy man. Thanks to all who have helped. Oh, yeah, Bean is the one
who was strongest in the suggestion about the props. We might end up with a
winner. Thanks Again, Ted Cowan, Alabama, Slingshot 912
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
If John W. were still with us, he could quote the regs.
>
> Arty Trost
Arty T:
And you could get your BFR in his Kolbra,in the SE corner of Oregon.
Another week until time for Kolb Homecoming. Hope the huricanes leave us
alone long enough to fly up and back in peace...
john h
mkIII
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| From: | "KOLB AIRCRAFT" <customersupport(at)tnkolbaircraft.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Kolb time needed W Tennessee. |
THUMPER, COME TO KOLB AIRCRAFT HOMECOMING SEPT. 19, 20, 21, AND WE CAN HELP
YOU. THANKS DONNIE.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Thumper" <dlong1957(at)yahoo.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 1:46 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb time needed W Tennessee.
>
> Anyone within a half days drive of Memphis consider taking me up in a two
seat Kolb? I am just about ready to fly my recently purchased Ultrastar and
need re-familiarized with it. I will pay your fuel bill. I have been
getting some time is a Cub but everything I have read and remember there are
many differences I need briefed on. Just some landings and several hours
should be enough. My time 20 years ago was in MXL 2's and MXL amounted to
over 40 hours plus several hours in a Zenair Zipper (any of those still
around?). Anyone will ing to help.
> Thanks.
>
> --------
> Dennis Long
> Oakland TN
> Kolb Ultrastar Owner
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
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>
>
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>
>
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: resonance 912 |
Ted C:
Daryl, at Warp Drive, has always had a 100% satisfaction guarantee on his
props.
I'd call him and see if he will send you another Warp Drive to try. There
may be some problem with your particular Warp Drive. More mysterious things
have happened when it comes to home built airplanes.
I never had a problem with prop blades and Titan exhaust noises, but the
first thing I noticed when Erich Weaver showed up at MV with his new STE
exhaust system. It made a terrible noise as the exhaust pulses
intermittently smacked the advancing blade on the right silencer exhaust
pulses.
John W got an STE system and hit did the same thing. The system was
designed for the Pulsar, a tractor aircraft. Not for pushers like our
Kolbs.
About the same time my Titan exhaust system had multiple tube failures over
a very short period of time. I had to have something I could rely on. I
got the STE knowing it had the exhaust pulse, prop blade smacking problem.
Yes, it did the same thing. Sounded like it was coming apart. My idea was
to weld some 45 degree elbows on the outlets, but could not find anyone to
do it for me before time to depart on a long flight. Got another idea. Cut
the tips off perpendicular to the ground with the aircraft sitting in the 3
point position. Cranked it up and the smack was gone.
John W trimmed his similar to mine and that fixed his problem.
If, by chance the Titan exhaust is creating your resonance problem, then it
is easy to change the silencer outlets to point in any one of three
different positions.
Yours is the only problem I have heard of with a 912/Warp Drive/Sling Shot
(or any model Kolb) resonance problem.
Ronny Collins had the similar resonance problem with Sling Shot/582 caused
by loose fabric on the top of the right wing. Two stroke turns opposite the
four stroke, so the top of the right wing was getting drummed by the fabric.
It had been rib stitched, stitches pulled loose, and Ronny's SS sounded like
a twin engine airplane with the props out of synch. Popped the fabric back
to the ribs and the resonance went away.
I really don't think you have a prop problem, but a prop drumming problem
associated with fabric and air flow. You can take 10 minutes, tape up the
back windows, go fly, and see if that changes anything.
Check to insure fabric is affixed tightly to all fuselage tubes and wing
ribs and tubes.
Something is causing this problem. Just gonna have to keep looking until
you find and fix it. There are too many Kolbs with 912's, Warps, and Titan
exhaust out there flying without resonance to blame it on an engine, prop,
or airframe design problem.
john h
mkIII
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| From: | robert bean <slyck(at)frontiernet.net> |
To keep my tank pickups simple I have only straight dip tubes with no
floppy devices at the bottom.
I cut the ends at an angle. I think they end about 3/8" from the
bottom. I have some unusable fuel
but I wouldn't be trying to get that last few ounces anyway.
BB
On 9, Sep 2008, at 10:13 PM, Jim Baker wrote:
>
> X-SpamReason %%SpamReason%%:
>
>> When installing these new tanks in June, I used Tygon for those two
>> 5-inch pieces of flexible fuel line in each tank
>
> snip...
>
>> After only 3 months of sitting in gasoline, that piece of flex
>> line lost
>> its flexibility, and actually expanded a little bit.
>
> Then, on the other side of the experience continuum....
>
> I have fuel grade Tygon F-4040-A fuel and lubricant tubing at the
> bottom of my tanks, in a setup similar to yours, and they've been
> there for 13 years. Still like new with very minor swelling and no
> cracks, abrasions.
>
> There's a huge difference in Tygon formulations. Just happening to
> have some yellow tubing lying around doesn't ensure that it's the
> correct formulation. I'm sure that most folks are convinced that
> Tygon is the Devil's own spawn and I'd have to say that assumption
> would be correct...IF you haven't taken the time to research the
> issue.
>
> Jim Baker
> 580.788.2779
> Elmore City, OK
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com> |
This entire thread has nothing to do with Kolbs or aviation. Terry authored this
thread with lies, and with no other intention than to post a personal attack
to stir up trouble and cause bad feelings. Those in the group that support
this kind of behavior, shame on you. It shows what hypocrites and poor excuse
of men you are.
When Reverend Richard jumps into this post to support someone that wrote a post
with no other intention than cause trouble and hate, it puts him right in the
company of Reverend Wright, Extreme Islamics, and other " religious " men that
support this kind of behavior. Richards supporting of discord and hate might
not be on the same grand level as Richards contemporaries, but he is taken
his stand. Lots of bad " Religious " men out there, Richard Pike has shown what
kind of man he is.
Mike
--------
"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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| Subject: | Re: Not very Puzzled |
| From: | "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com> |
Here we have two entire threads, started by others by myself, that have nothing
to do with Kolbs, and were written with other intention than to post personal
attacks, and cause trouble. If you don't like the tone of this list, and the
way things are going, I suggest you talk with the people that started these threads.
Lets see, you ignore the person that authored these threads, and then you complain
about me for their content. This is shows the behavior a very poor group
men bent on vindictiveness and intimidation of someone they don't like. Supporting
this kind of behavior by your " little clique " and then complaining when
I respond makes you nothing short of a hypocrite. There are a lot of lurkers
out there on the list that have to be unhappy with those that have started
this again and those that support it.
Mike
--------
"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
> To keep my tank pickups simple I have only straight dip tubes with no
> floppy devices at the bottom.
> I cut the ends at an angle. I think they end about 3/8" from the bottom.
> I have some unusable fuel
> but I wouldn't be trying to get that last few ounces anyway.
> BB
Bob B:
I have always pulled fuel from the bottom of tanks, US, FS, and mkIII. I
don't want the engine to quit and still have a gallon of gas in the tanks to
crash with. ;-)
Never did like multiple tanks and dip tubes, but that is strictly personal.
My engine driven pump does a good job of pulling fuel (flown at 14,500 feet
MSL wide open throttle), although I help it along with a Facet electric pump
on takeoff, landing, and during low level flight, which is most of the time.
Would probably never get the standby pump turned on if I lost an engine due
to fuel pump on takeoff, landing, or low level flying.
I figure if I get myself into an impending crash I can turn off the master
switch and alternator switch which will shut down the electrical system, and
isolate it all the way back to the battery. However, don't think I have
ever remembered to do this on any of my crashes to date. Hardly ever hear
of a post crash fire in a Kolb, but there is always that one time. I don't
want to be the victim.
john h
mkIII
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "KOLB AIRCRAFT" <customersupport(at)tnkolbaircraft.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Kolb time needed W Tennessee. |
----- Original Message -----
From: "KOLB AIRCRAFT" <customersupport(at)tnkolbaircraft.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb time needed W Tennessee.
>
> THUMPER, COME TO KOLB AIRCRAFT HOMECOMING SEPT. 19, 20, 21, AND WE CAN
HELP
> YOU. THANKS DONNIE.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Thumper" <dlong1957(at)yahoo.com>
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 1:46 PM
> Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb time needed W Tennessee.
>
>
> >
> > Anyone within a half days drive of Memphis consider taking me up in a
two
> seat Kolb? I am just about ready to fly my recently purchased Ultrastar
and
> need re-familiarized with it. I will pay your fuel bill. I have been
> getting some time is a Cub but everything I have read and remember there
are
> many differences I need briefed on. Just some landings and several hours
> should be enough. My time 20 years ago was in MXL 2's and MXL amounted to
> over 40 hours plus several hours in a Zenair Zipper (any of those still
> around?). Anyone will ing to help.
> > Thanks.
> >
> > --------
> > Dennis Long
> > Oakland TN
> > Kolb Ultrastar Owner
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 0273#200273
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Attachments:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com//files/100_1356_812.jpg
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| From: | robert bean <slyck(at)frontiernet.net> |
I admit to a less than perfect system. My tanks are 20 year old chem
jugs from my old employer.
Probably held coil cleaner or cooling tower additive. Most likely
should get new ones :)
If I were to install a metal tank it would drain from the bottom
too. With a plastic one
I prefer not to weaken the floor with a hole.
I also have forgotten to shut power in emergency landings. Seem to
get too busy looking for
a good spot. Last time the pump was squirting fuel straight out of
the line. May have cleaned
the prop a little.
The thought offered about the exhaust direction possibly creating a
resonance will be considered.
BB
On 10, Sep 2008, at 10:09 AM, John Hauck wrote:
>
>
> > To keep my tank pickups simple I have only straight dip tubes
> with no
>> floppy devices at the bottom.
>> I cut the ends at an angle. I think they end about 3/8" from the
>> bottom. I have some unusable fuel
>> but I wouldn't be trying to get that last few ounces anyway.
>> BB
>
>
> Bob B:
>
> I have always pulled fuel from the bottom of tanks, US, FS, and
> mkIII. I don't want the engine to quit and still have a gallon of
> gas in the tanks to crash with. ;-)
>
> Never did like multiple tanks and dip tubes, but that is strictly
> personal.
>
> My engine driven pump does a good job of pulling fuel (flown at
> 14,500 feet MSL wide open throttle), although I help it along with
> a Facet electric pump on takeoff, landing, and during low level
> flight, which is most of the time. Would probably never get the
> standby pump turned on if I lost an engine due to fuel pump on
> takeoff, landing, or low level flying.
>
> I figure if I get myself into an impending crash I can turn off the
> master switch and alternator switch which will shut down the
> electrical system, and isolate it all the way back to the battery.
> However, don't think I have ever remembered to do this on any of my
> crashes to date. Hardly ever hear of a post crash fire in a Kolb,
> but there is always that one time. I don't want to be the victim.
>
> john h
> mkIII
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "VICTOR PETERS" <vicsv(at)verizon.net> |
| Subject: | Re: resonance 912 |
Hey John,
Did you mean to say perpendicular or parallel to the ground concerning
Titan exhaust.
Mine, used, came perpendicular and I thought of cutting the tips because
of prop noise.
Vic
MIII Exrra 912ul
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
Bob B:
I haven't used a plastic jug tank since 1990. Back then the wall thickness
of the jugs seemed to be quite a bit thicker than the jugs that are being
utilized today.
Popular in the UL world was a push in "elbow" pulling fuel out the bottom of
the tank. Used a large neoprene grommet. These worked well for me. Never
experienced any problems with them.
I am still scratching my head trying to figure why folks use plastic fuel
lines, when "good ole" black neoprene is readily available, cheap, durable,
and reliable. Only reason anyone has come up with is to see the bubbles in
the line. I think one of our fuel experts on the Kolb List some time back
offered that gasoline "gases". When placed in a vacuum, i.e., pulling fuel
uphill, it pulls gas out of the fuel that looks just like air bubbles. Back
in the good ole days when I was running UL fuel line like everyone else, my
fuel lines were always pulling bubbles. Used to drive me crazy. Pulling
air through the fuel system, yet no fuel was leaking out when the engine was
shut down or running. Now...I don't see it and am not bothered with it.
I have, during preflight inspections of my US and FS, pulled on a fuel or
pulse line and have it fail. Never had that problem with black neoprene.
john h
mkIII
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: resonance 912 |
Vic:
A Titan exhaust can be tried with the outlets pointed left, right, or strai
ght up.
I never had a noise problem with the Titan systems, only the STE.
john h
mkIII
Hey John,
Did you mean to say perpendicular or parallel to the ground concerning Ti
tan exhaust.
Mine, used, came perpendicular and I thought of cutting the tips because
of prop noise.
Vic
MIII Exrra 912ul
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | The Suggested Jetpilot Poll |
| From: | "Michael Sharp" <kolbdriver(at)mlsharp.com> |
Ok, lets have a poll.
--------
The air up there in the clouds is very pure and fine...And why shouldn't it be?-
--It is the same the angels breathe.
Mark Twain,
Roughing it' 1886
Mike
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| From: | "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com> |
If you run a fuel pump below the level of the fuel and pressure feed it up to the
engine, you will not have bubbles to worry about. It is possible to have
an engine failure from pulling fuel up to much of a distance, and it will most
likely happen during full power = Takeoff. The powerful fuel pump does a pretty
good job of pulling fuel uphill, but the gas can vapor lock under certain
conditions which would lead to engine failure.
It is good practice to run an electric pump on takeoff and landing to pressure
feed your engine driven pump. We had someone post that so paranoid about fire,
he says not to run an electric pump on takeoff which is wrong, he is more likely
to induce an engine failure and crash by doing this. A fire after a crash
can happen with or without an electric fuel pump running... It is foolish
to be so paranoid about remote possibility of a fuel pump causing a fire, that
you create a much greater hazard of an engine failure. The best way to avoid
a fire is to keep your engine running on takeoff and avoid a crash altogether.
Mike
--------
"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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| Subject: | Re: The Suggested Jetpilot Poll |
| From: | "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com> |
Your poll is of poor taste, and is nothing more than a personal attack and an attempt
to cause trouble and discord on this list. As a matter of fact, the last
three threads have been nothing but objectionable attacks designed to cause
trouble on the list.
I see a lot of gang type mentality here, a few here are posting nothing but objectionable
and personal attacks because they are emboldened by their friends.
This is type of behavior usually practiced by uneducated kids on the street.
That says a lot about the quality of the so called " Men " participating in
this conduct.
Mike
--------
"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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| Subject: | Re: Poor posting etiquette |
| From: | "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com> |
Look at who authored the three post that were of " Poor Etiquette ". Not one of
them were started by me. Yes, they were of very poor etiquette, you should
complain to the people that wrote them.
--------
"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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| Subject: | Re: Fusing the Ignition System |
| From: | "Kirby, Dennis CTR USAF AFMC MDA/AL" <Dennis.Kirby(at)kirtland.af.mil> |
<< Dennis and others,
Don't confuse ignition system with electrical system. The Rotax 912
"ignition system" is for the most part independent of the "electrical
system". Rotax does NOT recommend a fuse in the ignition system. They
do
recommend one in the electrical system. The fuse in the electrical
system
can blow and the engine will continue to run well. Steven Green >>
Steven -
Thanks for the clarification!
That answers my question then, about why the 30-amp fuse (Rotax) versus
the 3-amp fuse on the HKS ignition system.
Dennis Kirby
Mk-3C, Cedar Crest, NM
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Kirby, Dennis CTR USAF AFMC MDA/AL" <Dennis.Kirby(at)kirtland.af.mil> |
<< Dennis, what kind of Tygon was it? Their yellow "Fuel and Lubricant
Tubing"? Or something else? -Dana >>
Dana - No, it was not the yellow-colored Tygon F4040 that Thom Riddle
describes.
Just some (mostly) clear "Tygon" that I ordered from Aircraft Spruce a
few years ago - I don't recall the exact description, besides that it
was advertised as fuel line.
Dennis Kirby
New Mexico
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "KOLB AIRCRAFT" <customersupport(at)tnkolbaircraft.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Kolb time needed W Tennessee. |
----- Original Message -----
From: "KOLB AIRCRAFT" <customersupport(at)tnkolbaircraft.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb time needed W Tennessee.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "KOLB AIRCRAFT" <customersupport(at)tnkolbaircraft.com>
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:09 AM
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb time needed W Tennessee.
>
>
>
> >
> > THUMPER, COME TO KOLB AIRCRAFT HOMECOMING SEPT. 19, 20, 21, AND WE CAN
> HELP
> > YOU. THANKS DONNIE.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Thumper" <dlong1957(at)yahoo.com>
> > To:
> > Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 1:46 PM
> > Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb time needed W Tennessee.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Anyone within a half days drive of Memphis consider taking me up in a
> two
> > seat Kolb? I am just about ready to fly my recently purchased Ultrastar
> and
> > need re-familiarized with it. I will pay your fuel bill. I have been
> > getting some time is a Cub but everything I have read and remember there
> are
> > many differences I need briefed on. Just some landings and several
hours
> > should be enough. My time 20 years ago was in MXL 2's and MXL amounted
to
> > over 40 hours plus several hours in a Zenair Zipper (any of those still
> > around?). Anyone will ing to help.
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > --------
> > > Dennis Long
> > > Oakland TN
> > > Kolb Ultrastar Owner
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Read this topic online here:
> > >
> > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 0273#200273
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Attachments:
> > >
> > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/100_1356_812.jpg
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
A key to understanding which airplanes/sets and in which airspace a Sport Pilot can legally fly in, is the required endorsements list, which is in the FAA Advisory Circular AC 61.65e which is found on-line in .pdf format at http://tinyurl.com/6ha28m .
After downloading this file, go to the 25th page in this document where Appendix
1. begins. The second section (12-21) of this appendix lists the Endorsements
a Student Pilot Seeking Sport Pilot Certificate must have for various privileges.
The third section (22-29) lists the Endorsements a Sport Pilot must have
to gain legal flying access to aircraft with Vh faster than 87knots, operations
to/from towered controlled airports and in controlled airspace, etc. Notice
that this appendix listing also references the specific FARs.
This AC 61-65e plus the LSA SETS referenced before in this thread pretty much spells
out the requirements, though there a few things that are still open to interpretation.
For example: If a Sport Pilot is trained in and passes his check
ride in an LSA with faster than 87knots Vh (i.e. gets the >87kts endorsement),
can s/he fly a slower than 87knot aircraft of the same type? My interpretation,
which agrees with the interpretation of the Designated Pilot Examiner (DPE)
who gave me my CFI-SP check ride, is that the faster than 87knot endorsement
qualifies a Sport Pilot to fly the slower ones of the same type but not vice
versa.
I hope this helps a bit.
--------
Thom Riddle
CFI-SP
Power Plant Mechanic
N221FA Allegro 2000 912UL
N197BG FS1/447
--------------------
Scratch any cynic, he said, and youll find a disappointed idealist.
George Carlin
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| From: | Eugene Zimmerman <ez(at)embarqmail.com> |
Hey Richard,
Welcome back!
"All that is needed for the forces of evil to succeed is for enough
good men to remain silent. "
Please do not do that again. :-)
With you here again, there is still hope for a better Kolb list.
Gene
On Sep 9, 2008, at 11:08 PM, Richard Pike wrote:
>
> Terry, it's like this: the only way you will ever get any relief
> from this problem of bad manners and rudeness is to give up on the
> list and find something else to do.
>
> Guess how I know this?
>
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 3495#203495
>
>
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| From: | "Ralph B" <ul15rhb(at)juno.com> |
I've been on the Kolb list as long as it's been in existence. There is no reason
to attack anyone or make remarks that hurt people. The purpose of the list is
to promote the sport of building and flying Kolb ultralight and Light Sport
Aircraft. I enjoy reading comments, but I sure don't like to read a lot of bickering
and political agendas. Can't we all just get along?
Ralph B
--------
Ralph B
Original Firestar 447
N91493 E-AB
21 years flying it
Kolbra 912UL
N20386
0 years flying it
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| From: | <smlplanet(at)msn.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Fw: FlyChallenger: Re: Dead Stick Takeoff |
From: Lowflier
Sent: 2008-09-10 13:24
Subject: Fw: FlyChallenger: Re: Dead Stick Takeoff
--- On Wed, 9/10/08, Red Stokes wrote:
From: Red Stokes <lava472003(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: FlyChallenger: Re: Dead Stick Takeoff
To: FlyChallenger(at)yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 12:56 PM
--- This is good. My buddy Raymond Hanover sent me the link last
week. I don't think I would have the guts to try it.
Red
In FlyChallenger@ yahoogroups. com, "J.D. Stewart" wrote:
>
> I never even thought about something like this. Of course,
it's
impossible
> here in flat Nebraska...
>
> http://www.wingscha nnel.com/ index.php? &video_id= 754
>
> J.D. Stewart
> UltraFun AirSports, LLC
> www.ultrafunairspor ts.com
> Titan Aircraft E-mail list
> http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/Titanaircr aft/
> Challenger E-mail list
> http://challenger. inebraska. com
>
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| From: | "grantr" <grant_richardson25(at)yahoo.com> |
Come on now! Was it necessary to start this thread? Was it necessary to respond
to it? [Rolling Eyes]
I have a solution for you guys. Ya'll need to fly more and spend less time sitting
around being bored and getting on the list starting these unnecessary conflicts.
I don't have a problem with anyone on the list. I feel all of you have valuable
information to share. I am new to Light sport aircraft and I value the input
from the list and I value differences in opinions between members.
The best way to smooth over this Hatfield and McCoy situation is to start ignoring
the things said that get to you.
Now play nice! :D
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| From: | "Richard Girard" <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Here we go again |
Ladies and Gentleman, May I offer a suggestion based on experience? There
will always be someone on a forum who acts like the kid who drops his pants
in the supermarket check out line to try and embarrass his mom into buying
him the candy bar he's denied. Attention is what the kid wants and by acting
like a little s*** he gets it. A good spanking would help, too, but that's
not PC anymore. So my suggestion is just ignore those who have no manners
and insult people, start the name calling, etc. Eventually, when they don't
get the attention they want they will go away to find someplace else to
bother people.It seems that what is called the tyranny of the question has
become the tyranny of the email. Once posted it requires a response. Well it
doesn't. Just as the rude question doesn't deserve a response, the rude
email doesn't either.
I have the advantage of using Gmail and it handles this quite nicely. When I
open my inbox all the messages are listed by subject and sender. Next to
each message is also a box. All I have to do is check the box and hit
delete. Poof, they're gone. No one is offended and I don't have to subject
myself to some rude jerk. I'm sure other email services offer options like
this, but if yours doesn't please feel free to contact me off list and I'll
be happy to send you an invitation to Gmail.
Rick
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
Preacher and others:
I find the best thing to do is ignore the bastards, both sides, and drive o
n. They ain't gonna run me off with a key board and monitor.
If they want to run me off, they'll have to do it in person. You know, eye
ball to eyeball. The ones that woof the loudest on the Kolb List are usual
ly the ones that are the meekest when you meet them in person.
Now.......let's get back to building and flying Kolbs. Now is one of the b
est times of the year to fly. The air will soon start cooling off and clea
n up a bit. Autumn colors are right around the corner. The Kolb Homecomin
g is next week. Get your sleeping bag and air mattress loaded in the Kolb
and head for Labhart Field.
This Kolb List is ok if you ain't got nuthin' else. But the real Kolb expe
rience is to load up the airplane, or yourself, and head out to the next Ko
lb Homecoming, MV, John Bickham's Nauga Flyin. Meet some of us old and you
ng farts that fly these things. Share some experiences eyeball to eyeball.
Get to "really" know each other. That, to me, is what it is all about.
I have met some of the finest folks in the world through my Kolbs. They ar
e, for the most part, life long friends. Friends I enjoy visiting with, wh
ether it is airplane, dirt bike, ATV, 5th wheeling, or whatever.
You guys need to knock this crap off. Try to say something "nice" to each
other once in a while. Don't look for stuff to pick apart. And.........do
n't be telling me what a dumb ass I am, or how stupid I am, for what I am d
oing. I bet I have been doing it a hell of a lot longer than a lot of you
all. ;-)
For the most part, I usually tell folks what and how I do it. I leave it u
p to you to decide what you want to do. What you do and how you do it is y
our business.
Take care,
john h
mkIII
Terry, it's like this: the only way you will ever get any relief from thi
s problem of bad manners and rudeness is to give up on the list and find so
mething else to do.
Guess how I know this?
Richard Pike
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| From: | Flycrazy8(at)aol.com |
I agree with jhauck...... and That's my final answer !!
do not archive
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| From: | possums <possums(at)bellsouth.net> |
A lot of the degradation of the "blue fuel line" has to do with the sun.
If you'll notice - the bottom fuel line (maybe coming out
of your tank) inside the fuselage, will last a lot longer
than the fuel line going to your carbs that are exposed to direct sunlight
all the time.
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| From: | "George Alexander" <gtalexander(at)att.net> |
Thom Riddle wrote:
>
>
>
>
> This AC 61-65e plus the LSA SETS referenced before in this thread pretty much
spells out the requirements, though there a few things that are still open to
interpretation. For example: If a Sport Pilot is trained in and passes his check
ride in an LSA with faster than 87knots Vh (i.e. gets the >87kts endorsement),
can s/he fly a slower than 87knot aircraft of the same type? My interpretation,
which agrees with the interpretation of the Designated Pilot Examiner (DPE)
who gave me my CFI-SP check ride, is that the faster than 87knot endorsement
qualifies a Sport Pilot to fly the slower ones of the same type but not vice
versa.
>
>
Thom:
Can't say with absolute certainty, but I believe I remember right that this interpretation
differs from what I was given by the DPE who gave me my SP check ride.
Sec 61.323 (and 61.319) seem pretty clear that you need an endorsement for any
set that you want to operate in, no matter what other(s) you may have.
Could be wrong..... wouldn't be the first time.
My $.02
--------
George Alexander
FS II R503 N709FS
http://gtalexander.home.att.net
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| From: | "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
What kind of man I am - Hmmm. All I did was check the list - like I do from time
to time to see if there is anything "airplaney" on it that is interesting -
and happened to read this thread. I don't know who's post I am supposed to be
supporting, don't know any of the details, don't care.
All I did was say what was true. It was true nine months ago, still true now. If
bad manners and rudeness are intolerable, then the list isn't an option.
Guess I made a good choice when I left.
PS to Mike: What made you think I was talking about you?
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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| Subject: | Re: 2008 Kolb Homecoming |
| From: | "N111KX (Kip)" <n111kx(at)mindspring.com> |
Looks like I will miss the homecoming for the 8th straight year. It never works
out as Sep 25th is my wife's birthday AND out anniversary. Now, being a week
earlier, work will get me.
Hope to see you all somewhere soon.
Regards,
Kip
FS II
PS...Is the Firestar really gone for good :(
--------
Kip
Firestar II, N111KX
Waiex, N111YX
Quickie 1, N111QX
Atlanta
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| From: | "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com> |
Mr Pike,
I don't think anyone should leave the list, the advantages to being here outweigh
whatever we might not like about it. I would encourage you decide to come
back and be active here.
Now that things have cooled down a little bit, here is what I had a problem with.
Terry started this thread that had nothing to do with Kolbs, and was nothing
more than a personal attack on myself. Your response was
" Terry, it's like this: the only way you will ever get any relief from this problem
of bad manners and rudeness is to give up on the list and find something
else to do. "
You chose to support terry and imply that he could get relief from this type of
behavior when HE IS THE ONE THAT INITIATED THE BAD MANNERS AND RUDENESS. The
more honest and appropriate advice would have been to tell him not to initiate
this type of behavior if he did not like it. Your supporting Terrys abusive
post and uncalled for behavior was wrong.
As a preacher, you of all people should not be supporting the person that initiates
this type of uncalled for and inappropriate behavior. Instead, you support
the attacker... You as a preacher should know better than anyone the difference
between right and wrong. Terrys starting this ugly mess again with this
thread was wrong. You supporting him doing it was wrong.
Mike
--------
"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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| From: | "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com> |
John H,
With all due respect, I agree with you when you say Enough is Enough. I put all
this behind me the last time around months ago. You know very well that I have
kept my posts clean and non abusive recently.
If you have a problem with what is going on the list, you need to be talking the
individual that instigated this whole mess and wrote this abusive " Non Kolb
" thread, not me.
At last count, there are 4 separate threads that were started here on this list
that are nothing but rude and nasty attacks, and have nothing to do with Kolbs,
NONE of them were started by me. The majority of rude and inappropriate posts
on this list written since yesterday were not written by myself. Double
standards do not work, chastising me in public for responding to attacks while
not saying a word about the instigators will NEVER achieve peace on this list.
This continual mentality of everyone telling me to be quiet and take abuse form
other members of this group only encourages repeats of what has been happening
here in the past. If you want a clean list, then the same standards must be
applied to everyone. It is very clear, that Terry, Michael Sharp, and others
feel they have the blessing of the group anytime they want to write personal
attacks. Given the response from this episode, it is clear they will surely
feel they have the support to do this again and again.
Want a clean list, its time to tell your friends to clean up their act, not just
me. You know as well as anyone that double standards will never result in peace
here. The SAME rules and standards of conduct must apply to everyone.
Mike
--------
"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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| From: | DAquaNut(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: : Kolb-List:Homecoming |
In a message dated 9/10/2008 7:44:00 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com writes:
Another week until time for Kolb Homecoming. Hope the huricanes leave us
alone long enough to fly up and back in peace...
john h
mkIII
I just got back from the hanger where I folded the firefly
and secured her in the enclosed trailer which is inside the hanger! Hope
she will be ok! Ike is supposed to be here by Fri. Hope I can get things to
a point that I can make the Homecoming ! I ve got my tickets.
Ed (in Houston)
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| From: | "KOLB AIRCRAFT" <customersupport(at)tnkolbaircraft.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Kolb time needed W Tennessee. |
----- Original Message -----
From: "KOLB AIRCRAFT" <customersupport(at)tnkolbaircraft.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb time needed W Tennessee.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "KOLB AIRCRAFT" <customersupport(at)tnkolbaircraft.com>
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 10:30 AM
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb time needed W Tennessee.
>
>
>
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "KOLB AIRCRAFT" <customersupport(at)tnkolbaircraft.com>
> > To:
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:09 AM
> > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb time needed W Tennessee.
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > THUMPER, COME TO KOLB AIRCRAFT HOMECOMING SEPT. 19, 20, 21, AND WE CAN
> > HELP
> > > YOU. THANKS DONNIE.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Thumper" <dlong1957(at)yahoo.com>
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 1:46 PM
> > > Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb time needed W Tennessee.
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Anyone within a half days drive of Memphis consider taking me up in
a
> > two
> > > seat Kolb? I am just about ready to fly my recently purchased
Ultrastar
> > and
> > > need re-familiarized with it. I will pay your fuel bill. I have been
> > > getting some time is a Cub but everything I have read and remember
there
> > are
> > > many differences I need briefed on. Just some landings and several
> hours
> > > should be enough. My time 20 years ago was in MXL 2's and MXL
amounted
> to
> > > over 40 hours plus several hours in a Zenair Zipper (any of those
still
> > > around?). Anyone will ing to help.
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > --------
> > > > Dennis Long
> > > > Oakland TN
> > > > Kolb Ultrastar Owner
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Read this topic online here:
> > > >
> > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 0273#200273
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Attachments:
> > > >
> > > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/100_1356_812.jpg
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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| From: | "Thomas R. Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
George,
I agree with your reading of the quoted FARs... it is pretty clear.
Perhaps what I should have said is that the way it will probably(my
opinion) be enforced (if it can be policed at all) is the way that I
described. In General Aviation (before Rec Pilot and now Sport Pilot)
there has been a de facto "ranking", and that is the basis for my
belief that this SP rule may be enforced (again, if it is possible to
do so) with this ranking legacy and mentality.
When I learned to fly a tail wheel airplane (PA-11), there was no such
thing as a "tail wheel" endorsement. When I learned to fly a Mooney,
there was no such thing as a "complex" endorsement, neither was their
a "high performance" endorsement. These came about later and resulted
in a de facto ranking system. Although the 61.300 series FARS that
deal with Sport Pilots seems to eliminate that for this Airman
Certificate, there is a move underway to "normalize" the Sport Pilot
regs to be more like the pre-Sport Pilot airman regs. Time will tell
if the regs actually change to reflect this.
Thom in Buffalo
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| From: | "grantr" <grant_richardson25(at)yahoo.com> |
If you guys must bash each other, Why not keep it in personal messages or personal
emails [Question] that way the whole list doesn't have to see this. This
thread should have not been started here.
This kind of stuff looks bad to new people lurking on the forum.
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: : Kolb-List:Homecoming |
Good luck, Ed:
Hope you all all the other folks ride this one out with no problems.
john h
mkIII
I just got back from the hanger where I folded the fir
efly and secured her in the enclosed trailer which is inside the hanger!
Hope she will be ok! Ike is supposed to be here by Fri. Hope I can get thi
ngs to a point that I can make the Homecoming ! I ve got my tickets.
Ed (in Houston)
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| From: | "lucien" <lstavenhagen(at)hotmail.com> |
John Hauck wrote:
> Bob B:
>
> I am still scratching my head trying to figure why folks use plastic fuel
> lines, when "good ole" black neoprene is readily available, cheap, durable,
> and reliable. Only reason anyone has come up with is to see the bubbles in
> the line.
> mkIII
The hazard with the fuel line from the auto parts store is that it's layered, usually
with a webbing of some kind seperating the pleats. The idea here is it's
designed for fuel systems that are under pressue, not under vacuum.
The problem is that the pleats can seperate over time; the inner pleat can then
collapse under vacuum with the expected results.
This is a personal experience item, nothing I read off the Internet. The first
time it happened to me was on one of my 503's (on my trike years ago, fortunately
caught at a maintenance interval before it actually put me down in a field)
was enough for me to make it the last time.
I've used only the tygothane clear line from the usual a/c suppliers ever since.
I'd love to run Aeroquip line as well, but I havn't researched how to deal with
the fittings on my tank and on the Rotax fuel pumps for a good attachment.
The tygothane lasts a long time and is a proven good solution on our light Rotax
powered a/c. Works for me...
LS
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LS
Titan II SS
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| From: | "lucien" <lstavenhagen(at)hotmail.com> |
[quote="lucien"]
John Hauck wrote:
> Bob B:
>
> I am still scratching my head trying to figure why folks use plastic fuel
> lines, when "good ole" black neoprene is readily available, cheap, durable,
> and reliable. Only reason anyone has come up with is to see the bubbles in
> the line.
> mkIII
Oops forgot my second point.
The other HUGE advantage, the main advantage I'd say, of the clear line is the
ability to inspect it. Being able to inspect critical systems is the life blood
of flying those systems through the air.
Opaque lines like the black neoprene lines cannot be inspected for problems without
actually removing them and even then it's difficult to spot problems with
the inner pleats in longer runs. So generally it just never is inspected except
on the outside and it's quality has to be taken on faith. Not good......
The clear tygothane lines, on the other hand, can be easily and thoroughly inspected
with it still on the plane and defects are easy to spot.
Don't ask me why I know this...
Having to change it out from time to time is, in my experience, a very small trade-off
compared to the ability to inspect the lines conveniently and effectively.
Well worth it...
LS
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LS
Titan II SS
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| From: | <smlplanet(at)msn.com> |
Some black fuel lines start breaking down when an oil mix is run thru them
after awhile and you can find small black pieces in the filer. The best
black fuel line would be a marine grade used for gas and oil mixes.
--------------------------------------------------
From: "lucien" <lstavenhagen(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: 2008-09-11 09:49
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: fuel line?
>
>
> John Hauck wrote:
>> Bob B:
>>
>> I am still scratching my head trying to figure why folks use plastic fuel
>> lines, when "good ole" black neoprene is readily available, cheap,
>> durable,
>> and reliable. Only reason anyone has come up with is to see the bubbles
>> in
>> the line.
>> mkIII
>
>
> The hazard with the fuel line from the auto parts store is that it's
> layered, usually with a webbing of some kind seperating the pleats. The
> idea here is it's designed for fuel systems that are under pressue, not
> under vacuum.
>
> The problem is that the pleats can seperate over time; the inner pleat can
> then collapse under vacuum with the expected results.
>
> This is a personal experience item, nothing I read off the Internet. The
> first time it happened to me was on one of my 503's (on my trike years
> ago, fortunately caught at a maintenance interval before it actually put
> me down in a field) was enough for me to make it the last time.
>
> I've used only the tygothane clear line from the usual a/c suppliers ever
> since.
>
> I'd love to run Aeroquip line as well, but I havn't researched how to deal
> with the fittings on my tank and on the Rotax fuel pumps for a good
> attachment.
>
> The tygothane lasts a long time and is a proven good solution on our light
> Rotax powered a/c. Works for me...
>
> LS
>
> --------
> LS
> Titan II SS
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 3797#203797
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: I am officially a sport pilot! |
| From: | "grantr" <grant_richardson25(at)yahoo.com> |
Thanks everyone!
Here is a picture
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | 2008 Kolb Homecoming |
Weather for London, KY, next Thu, Fri, and Sat, is forecast "sunny".
Hope is stays that way.
Looking forward to another great weekend and flyin.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Wood props, was: Re: wood resonance 912 |
| From: | "lucien" <lstavenhagen(at)hotmail.com> |
Dana wrote:
> At 02:23 PM 9/9/2008, JetPilot wrote:
>
>
> > Wood props are very fragile, and are very likely to be broken by something
coming off a pusher plane like a Kolb. This is a very well known fact.
> >
> > If anyone out there is starting to wonder after reading Terrys very misleading
post, read this:
> >
> > http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/418892/four_disadvantages_of_aircraft_propellers.html (http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/418892/four_disadvantages_of_aircraft_propellers.html)
> >
> > http://users.hunterlink.net.au/~dddj/Powershift.htm (http://users.hunterlink.net.au/~dddj/Powershift.htm)
>
> Mike,
>
> I don't agree.
>
> You can't make a blanket statement that "wood props are more fragile" or "composite
props are better". Wood is more susceptible to some kinds of damage and
less susceptible to other kinds.
>
I can't agree either.
I've flown wood props on several of the planes I've owned and my experience has
not been that they're overly fragile.
Most woodies, probably all of them in fact, are made from laminated blocks. Laminating
wood in this fashion is a time-honored/well-known way to create a very
strong, warp-free material for making props.
The loosening bolt thing I would consider to be a non-argument, as loose prop bolts
easily corrected with a torque wrench are more properly considered owner/operator
error and not the fault of the prop. Laminated woodies don't suffer from
this problem to a huge degree anyway.
Woodies also have the advantage of light weight, particularly as compared to metal
props. This is important for us with our smaller motors that are more sensitive
to moment-of-inertia affects.
Easy repairability of the woody is time-honored and pretty well understoond also.
The failure mode of a good woody is not generally a complete explosion. Highly
laminated wood blocks don't generally fail that way, since the grains of the laminates
don't all run in the same direction (to my knowledge).
I've never been a strong advocate of putting objects through spinning props anyway,
tho, so I'm not too overly concerned about this particular aspect of it ;).
But in case it does happen without my consent, and it has with one or two of
my woodies in the past, the woodies seem to be very durable to me.
Would I run one on my 912s? In a heartbeat if there were one appropriate for my
plane....
LS
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LS
Titan II SS
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| Subject: | Re: Here we go again |
| From: | "lucien" <lstavenhagen(at)hotmail.com> |
aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com wrote:
> Ladies and Gentleman, May I offer a suggestion based on experience?
>
Remember folks: this is a mailing list.
If you're thinking of it otherwise - as a community, or online Rotary Club - you
need to get out more.
You can save a lot of heartache by seeking socialization elsewhere and using these
lists for what they are - mailing lists.
Just a friendly suggestion ;).
LS
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LS
Titan II SS
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| From: | russ kinne <russ(at)rkiphoto.com> |
| Subject: | Re: I am officially a sport pilot! |
WAY TO GO, GRANT!! CONGRATULATIONS
On Sep 11, 2008, at 10:31 AM, grantr wrote:
>
>
> Thanks everyone!
>
> Here is a picture
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 3805#203805
>
>
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| From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
At 09:49 AM 9/11/2008, lucien wrote:
>The hazard with the fuel line from the auto parts store is that it's
>layered, usually with a webbing of some kind seperating the pleats. The
>idea here is it's designed for fuel systems that are under pressue, not
>under vacuum...
Not necessarily. Although most if not all newer cars have fuel injection
and an electric pump located in or near the fuel tank pushing the fuel,
there are lots of older cars out there using only an engine driven pump
pulling the fuel from the tank. I've owned some old cars with rubber fuel
line looking so crispy that you'd think a feather touch would make it
disintegrate, but it held even while the metal lines rusted out.
But I'll still use clear line on my various flying machines.
-Dana
--
Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug.
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | List Etiquette (Everyone Must Read This)... |
Okay, so this is out of control. I have gotten numerous complaints in recent days
about the content on the Kolb-List. I'm not going to point any fingers or
publicly spank anyone. I expect everyone to conduct themselves as adults on
these forums and treat all other members with respect. Moreover, this is a List
about KOLBS. It is not a list about pointing fingers or other such behavior.
As most of you know, I prefer to run the List unmoderated and open as I think it
generally allows people to freely and openly discuss their opinions. I do not
like to step in with a heavy hand and dictate what should or shouldn't be discussed.
That being said, the rules from paragraph one above are of paramount
importance.
READ THIS
Starting with message, any posts that are not about Kolbs, or in anyway attack
other members or are just generally offensive will subject the offending person
an unceremonious 14-day block from posting. Period. No exceptions. The offender
will not be directly notified of the block, their posts will simply be
rejected.
No need to respond to this message. Any further messages must be about Kolbs.
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin
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| From: | Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | Kolb MkIII building progress |
Hello to all those that give a hoot!
My apologies if I haven't responded to anyone's emails=2C I'm still rough
ing it and have to use the library computer=2C and still live in an RV trai
ler while I build my 40 X 48 hangar (w/ living qrtrs). Then the house is n
ext...
After being able to work full time on my MkIII all last year=2C I miss wo
rking on the Kolb...but the hangar is almost done=2C and soon=2C I'll be ba
ck at it. I'll post a couple of pics of the hangar=2C to anyone who cares.
I'm planning on making it to the Kolb Homecoming...hope=2C hope!! See ya
there.
Oh=2C BTW=2C I'm glad to hear from Rick and Rev Richard. Missed you'ze g
uys!!
Kolbs are cool! (Hope this is Kolb related enough :) )
Mike Welch
MkIII CX
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of your life.
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| From: | mark rinehart <capt_riney(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Engine for Kolb MkIII |
I'm looking for a used Rotax 912 (preferrably) or a 582 for my Mark III Classic.
If you know of any good deals please let me know. I'll be at the Kolb Open
House in September.
Mark Rinehart
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| Subject: | Re: Engine for Kolb MkIII |
| From: | "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com> |
A friend of mine is selling a low time Rotax 582 that is currently flying on his
plane, he is switching to a VW conversion. I dont know the price, but I will
put him in contact with you if you like.
Mike
--------
"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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| From: | "trader(at)fotoubuff.com" <trader(at)fotobuff.com> |
Hi everyone I just wanted to post some \ info I know about fuel line.
many years ago there was the blue fuel line which was suppose to be the
best.
and in many cases it was, until someone introduced some blue crap that
looked and felt the same as the
good stuff. I suggest throwing it all away. I made the mistake of
putting some of the bad crap in my
dip type fuel tank on trike. the hose broke off inside the tank It
didnt take long to go bad.
the yellow fuel line tubing is tygon 4040 and is NOT TYGOTHANE but
can be used for fuel but NOT recommended.
there are 2 types of fuel line I only use.
EITHER base will not hold up and will be a mistake.
this stuff can be colored if you buy a million or more feet. Probably
no one will buy
but generally the good stuff will be nearly clear
I personally use Superthane ester. I have an account with new age
Jackof mosttrades.
.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Richard Girard" <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | LSA's and FAR 61.319 |
Following the various posts on LSA endorsements and reading 61.319, I was in
the dark about the meaning of "sets of aircraft" so I called the FAA Light
Sport Branch this morning for clarification. They explained it and referred
me to:
http://www.faa.gov/licenses_certificates/airmen_certification/sport_pilot/media/aircraft_sets.pdf
So, here's the deal as explained by Tom, Rich and Joe (yes, it took all
three to get the definitive answers).
If your endorsement is for a tricycle gear aircraft whose maximum cruise
speed is under 87 knots you are good to go in ALL tricycle gear LSA's,
qualifying certified aircraft, or E-AB's (again provided they qualify to be
flown by a sport pilot) that has a max cruise speed under 87 knots. This is
a set of aircraft.
Same goes for taildraggers. If you flew a Kolb with a max cruise speed under
87 knots to get your endorsement, you can fly a Firefly, Firestar, Mk III,
whatever. It doesn't even have to be a Kolb, perish the thought. As long as
it drags its tail and cruises at less than 87 knots you're legal.
HOWEVER, a set of aircraft is a set of aircraft and they are NOT backward
compatible. If your endorsement is for AP-5 (tricycle gear max cruise
greater than 87 knots you are NOT good to go in AP-1 (tricycle gear max
cruise less than 87 knots). The same goes AP-6 and AP-2.
This applies to Light Sport certificate holders ONLY. If you're a PPL pilot
exercising the light sport privilege you need a tail dragger endorsement
(unless you are grandfathered in) to fly a tail dragger and that's it.
BFR's. They can't be done in a single place aircraft and getting one in a
different set of aircraft does NOT equal an endorsement. If you satisfied
your instructor that you qualified for the endorsement he/she can give it,
but it's not automatic just because your BFR requirement is met.
Hope this helps, and thanks for the discussion, it gives me an article for
next month's newsletter.
Rick
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| From: | "Richard Girard" <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com> |
I don't want to be the spelling Nazi here, just want to clarify. Did you
mean ether based tubing as not being good to use when you mentioned
Tygothane C210 and Superthane as being ester based and good to use?Thanks
for the clarification.
Rick
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 9:16 AM, trader(at)fotoubuff.com
wrote:
> trader(at)fotobuff.com>
>
> Hi everyone I just wanted to post some \ info I know about fuel line.
> many years ago there was the blue fuel line which was suppose to be the
> best.
> and in many cases it was, until someone introduced some blue crap that
> looked and felt the same as the
> good stuff. I suggest throwing it all away. I made the mistake of
> putting some of the bad crap in my
> dip type fuel tank on trike. the hose broke off inside the tank It didnt
> take long to go bad.
>
>
> the yellow fuel line tubing is tygon 4040 and is NOT TYGOTHANE but can
> be used for fuel but NOT recommended.
>
> there are 2 types of fuel line I only use.
>
> EITHER base will not hold up and will be a mistake.
>
> this stuff can be colored if you buy a million or more feet. Probably no
> one will buy
> but generally the good stuff will be nearly clear
> I personally use Superthane ester. I have an account with new age
>
> Jackof mosttrades.
> .
>
>
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| From: | "trader(at)fotoubuff.com" <trader(at)fotobuff.com> |
I purchase quantities from the company, New age and
there is a difference in the formulation
Both The makers of Tygothane
and the makers of Superthane
recommend:
Either base is not as good.
Jackofmosttrades
RE
I don't want to be the spelling Nazi here, just want to clarify. Did you
mean ether based tubing as not being good to use when you mentioned
Tygothane C210 and Superthane as being ester based and good to use?T
Thanks for the clarification.
Rick
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| Subject: | Re: Wood props, was: Re: wood resonance 912 |
In a message dated 9/9/2008 5:38:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
d-m-hague(at)comcast.net writes:
Wood props are very fragile, and are very likely to be broken by something
coming off a pusher plane like a Kolb. This is a very well known fact.
If anyone out there is starting to wonder after reading Terrys very
misleading post, read this:
Mike, I do not agree.
I sat in front of a Sensenich 64 x 79 all wood blade for over a 1000 hours
that was bolted to an 0-320 lyc.
Even made trips to the Bahamas. That same blade took my good friend from
Key West to Roatan and back. Non Stop both ways. Over the years I did have
a
few small screws from the cowl leave their mark but last time I checked it
had over 2k hrs.
I suggest that you learn how to keep stuff from falling off your plane and
not rely on a blade not breaking no matter what it is made of.
steve b
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Lucien,
If you follow this link you can see how I did it. I used Yamaha Outboard
fuel line on the flex areas. I have used this type of line for years due to
it's durability. If you opt to used the squeeze bulb, it is the best around.
Part # 6Y1-24306-55. I have an old one that is ten years old and has always
been used with oil mix.
_http://www.sportpilot.org/magazine/feature/2008%20-%2007%20July%20-%20Buildin
g%20a%20Grand%20Champion%20Ultralight.pdf_
(http://www.sportpilot.org/magazine/feature/2008%20-%2007%20July%20-%20Building%20a%20Grand%20Champion%20Ultralig
ht.pdf)
Steve B
Firefly 007/Floats
Firefly 0040/ Floats 2008 SnF Grand Champion
In a message dated 9/11/2008 9:50:12 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
lstavenhagen(at)hotmail.com writes:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "lucien"
John Hauck wrote:
> Bob B:
>
> I am still scratching my head trying to figure why folks use plastic fuel
> lines, when "good ole" black neoprene is readily available, cheap,
durable,
> and reliable. Only reason anyone has come up with is to see the bubbles
in
> the line.
> mkIII
The hazard with the fuel line from the auto parts store is that it's
layered, usually with a webbing of some kind seperating the pleats. The idea here
is
it's designed for fuel systems that are under pressue, not under vacuum.
The problem is that the pleats can seperate over time; the inner pleat can
then collapse under vacuum with the expected results.
This is a personal experience item, nothing I read off the Internet. The
first time it happened to me was on one of my 503's (on my trike years ago,
fortunately caught at a maintenance interval before it actually put me down in
a
field) was enough for me to make it the last time.
I've used only the tygothane clear line from the usual a/c suppliers ever
since.
I'd love to run Aeroquip line as well, but I havn't researched how to deal
with the fittings on my tank and on the Rotax fuel pumps for a good attachment.
The tygothane lasts a long time and is a proven good solution on our light
Rotax powered a/c. Works for me...
LS
--------
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Titan II SS
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| From: | "Dave Bigelow" <up_country(at)hotmail.com> |
>
Jack, do you have a source for these two types of fuel line?
Thanks.
--------
Dave Bigelow
Kamuela, Hawaii
FS2, HKS 700E
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| From: | "Thomas R. Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
I copied the following from New Age's website. Note the bit about
water and about modern fuel additives. I could find nothing about
ethanol tolerance.
Notes
^^Hydrolytic Stability -- For resistance to moisture and fungus,
SUPERTHANE ether is recommended (Ester polyurethane does not react
well with water, prolonged humid conditions, or attack from fungus.)
The ether-based formulation is listed by the National Sanitation
Foundation (NSF 61). It also resists attack from ultra-violet rays
making it a good material for outside use.
SUPERTHANE PU tubing is much more resistant to pressure and vacuum
applications than corresponding sizes of PVC or rubber.
^Although polyurethane is commonly used in fuel applications, due to
additives in today's gasoline and petroleum products, field testing
should be performed.
Thom in Buffalo
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Hurricane Ike/2008 Kolb Homecoming |
Hope all our Kolb folks in the area of Ike are ok.
As of this morning, I have not heard from any of my Kolb friends from that
area.
Weather at hauck's holler is beautiful. Based on it, one would never
suspect what is happening on the Gulf coast.
Don't know how this storm will affect weather between Thursday and Sunday.
Hopefully, we will be blessed with good flying weather and have a successful
Kolb Homecoming.
Whether you fly, drive, or walk, everyone make an extra effort to attend.
The folks at TNK go to great length to make all of us Kolbers feel at home,
comfortable, and well fed.
The 2001 Kolb Homecoming was canceled. However, some of us felt so strongly
about attending we decided to fly to TNK anyway. I can not remember who
showed up for that Homecoming. We had a good time despite the troubled
times.
Take care,
john h
mkIII
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| From: | "Robert Laird" <rlaird(at)cavediver.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Hurricane Ike/2008 Kolb Homecoming |
The eye of Ike passed about 45 miles to my east... winds are in the 75mph
range, and there's lots of hard rain, lots of debris flying through the
air... power is out in my area, and reports say 2 million people in the
Houston/Galveston area are without power.
So far, though, no major issues.
-- Robert
On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 8:07 AM, John Hauck wrote:
>
> Hope all our Kolb folks in the area of Ike are ok.
>
> As of this morning, I have not heard from any of my Kolb friends from that
> area.
>
> Weather at hauck's holler is beautiful. Based on it, one would never
> suspect what is happening on the Gulf coast.
>
> Don't know how this storm will affect weather between Thursday and Sunday.
> Hopefully, we will be blessed with good flying weather and have a successful
> Kolb Homecoming.
>
> Whether you fly, drive, or walk, everyone make an extra effort to attend.
> The folks at TNK go to great length to make all of us Kolbers feel at home,
> comfortable, and well fed.
>
> The 2001 Kolb Homecoming was canceled. However, some of us felt so
> strongly about attending we decided to fly to TNK anyway. I can not
> remember who showed up for that Homecoming. We had a good time despite the
> troubled times.
>
> Take care,
>
> john h
> mkIII
>
>
--
Jack Benny - "I don't deserve this award, but I have arthritis and I don't
deserve that either."
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| Subject: | Re: Hurricane Ike/2008 Kolb Homecoming |
Price of gas was up over $1.00 a gallon last night; wonder how long that
will last.............?
Howard Shackleford
FS II
SC
In a message dated 9/13/2008 9:27:24 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
rlaird(at)cavediver.com writes:
The eye of Ike passed about 45 miles to my east... winds are in the 75mph
range, and there's lots of hard rain, lots of debris flying through the air...
--
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Hurricane Ike/2008 Kolb Homecoming |
Robert:
Glad you are ok.
Still waiting to hear from Gary Haley NW of Houston.
We got some more Kolb folks down that way also.
john h - Blue bird perfect day at hauck's holler, alabama.
mkIII
So far, though, no major issues.
-- Robert
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| From: | "Robert Laird" <rlaird(at)cavediver.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Hurricane Ike/2008 Kolb Homecoming |
Gary lives about 15 miles due east of me which would, of course, put him 30
miles from path of the eye. Not too many trees in his aviation subdivision,
so he's probably okay, but I'd bet his power is out.... almost everyone in
Houston has no power.
-- R
On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 10:23 AM, John Hauck wrote:
> Robert:
>
> Glad you are ok.
>
> Still waiting to hear from Gary Haley NW of Houston.
>
> We got some more Kolb folks down that way also.
>
> john h - Blue bird perfect day at hauck's holler, alabama.
> mkIII
>
>
> So far, though, no major issues.
>
> -- Robert
>
>
> *
>
>
> *
>
>
--
David Lee Roth - "I used to jog but the ice cubes kept falling out of my
glass."
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| Subject: | Re: Hurricane Ike/2008 Kolb Homecoming |
| From: | "George Alexander" <gtalexander(at)att.net> |
John Hauck wrote:
>
> We got some more Kolb folks down that way also.
>
>
Anyone hear from Jimmy Young yet?
--------
George Alexander
FS II R503 N709FS
http://gtalexander.home.att.net
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| From: | "lucien" <lstavenhagen(at)hotmail.com> |
Steve Boetto wrote:
> Lucien, If you follow this link you can see how I did it. I used Yamaha
Outboard fuel line on the flex areas. I have used this type of line for years
due to it's durability. If you opt to used the squeeze bulb, it is the best
around. Part # 6Y1-24306-55. I have an old one that is ten years old and
has always been used with oil mix.
> http://www.sportpilot.org/magazine/feature/2008%20-%2007%20July%20-%20Building%20a%20Grand%20Champion%20Ultralight.pdf (http://www.sportpilot.org/magazine/feature/2008%20-%2007%20July%20-%20Building%20a%20Grand%20Champion%20Ultralight.pdf)
>
> Steve B
> Firefly 007/Floats
> Firefly 0040/ Floats 2008 SnF Grand Champion
>
Now that's a super nice fuel system setup there.......
Personally, like I said I like to be able to inspect fuel line, at least any that
isn't something I know has a very low chance of deteriorating like aluminum
lines connected by AN fittings... So my personal preference is clear line.
Now that said, I wouldn't worry about something like aeroquip line which even tho
it's opaque, it's also not the rank stuff from the auto parts place either
;).
Last line change on my plane I was trying to figure out how to go aeroquip, but
I couldn't figure out how to get AN fittings on the fuel pump, carburettor and
tank outlets. At least not without major mods and without just clamping the
hose on there which would have been a little lame.....
I had also tried to work up a metal line up to where it needed to flex at the engine,
but couldn't come up with a good solution.....
Yours is really nice tho...
LS
--------
LS
Titan II SS
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| From: | "Robert Laird" <rlaird(at)cavediver.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Hurricane Ike/2008 Kolb Homecoming |
I just finished talking to him..... he lost part of a fence, and of course
no power, but he's fine otherwise. He moved his plane from its regular
place to a more secure hangar, and it turned out to be a good move.... the
roof came off his original hangar.
-- Robert
On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 10:49 AM, George Alexander wrote:
>
>
> John Hauck wrote:
> >
> > We got some more Kolb folks down that way also.
> >
> >
>
>
> Anyone hear from Jimmy Young yet?
>
> --------
> George Alexander
> FS II R503 N709FS
> http://gtalexander.home.att.net
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 4096#204096
>
>
--
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glass."
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| From: | "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Fw: FAASafety.gov - General Information "Law Enforcement Assistance |
Program"
I just received this from the FAA. Note the attached link
https://www.faasafety.gov/files/notices/2008/Sep/LEAP_Brochure.pdf
The area of concern is the need to fill out and carry a FAA form 337
when flying with a aux fuel tank in my passenger seat. The brochure
indicates that this form must be filled out, carried, and presented to
law enforcement officials when requested. The form is for major
modifications to an aircraft. This isn't even a true "installation" in
my plane any more than a passenger is an installation but?
Any thoughts
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Now that said, I wouldn't worry about something like aeroquip line
which even tho it's opaque, it's also not the rank stuff from the auto
parts place either ;).
| |
| LS
LS:
I got into UL'ing initially because it was the only way I could figure
out how to fly again after retiring as an Army aviator. I chose to
live on my retirement beginning at the ripe old age of 40. So far,
nearly 29 years later, I have survived and have thoroughly enjoyed my
last 24 years of experimental flying.
If I deleted all the items on my airplane that were obtained from
Wal-Mart and "rank stuff from the auto parts place", I would be
permanently grounded.
I find if a builder uses his head, he can obtain safe, reliable,
efficient hardware to keep his bird flying, at much less expense than
buying expensive aircraft stuff because it looks slick, and real
airplanes are Federally mandated to be equipped that way. Thank God
for a little freedom of choice. I am not knocking Steve B's
beautifully finished FF that walked off with the S&F Grand Champion UL
2008 trophy. However, I was able to bring home the same trophy in
1988 for my FS, plus two Gold Lindy Trophies from OSH, 1989 and 1993,
using my old philosophy of using good quality stuff that will get me
there and back without worrying whether it will or not, for half the
price.
I think the record of my airplanes indicates it can be done.
Been thinking about inspecting clear fuel line vs my black neoprene
fuel line. First, I can't see all my fuel line. Most of it is hidden
inside the fuselage. Based on my experience with plastic line, in
most cases, one could not tell if it was serviceable or not by looking
at it. Took a hand and a pull to see if it was going to fall apart or
not. Sometimes the pulse line or a fuel line would do just that.
The beauty of our system of experimental airplanes is, for the most
part, our freedom to equip and fly our aircraft the way we want to.
Personal choice means a lot to me and I respect others freedom for
personal choice.
However, I am still looking for a valid requirement to see the little
bubbles in my fuel line. ;-)
john h - Glad to hear everyone, so far, is ok down Texas way.
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: FAASafety.gov - General Information "Law Enforcement Assista |
| From: | "lucien" <lstavenhagen(at)hotmail.com> |
NeilsenRM(at)comcast.net wrote:
> I just received this from the FAA. Note the attached link https://www.faasafety.gov/files/notices/2008/Sep/LEAP_Brochure.pdf ()
>
> The area of concern is the need to fill out and carry a FAA form 337 when flying
with a aux fuel tank in my passenger seat. The brochure indicates that
this form must be filled out, carried, and presented to law enforcement officials
when requested. The form is for major modifications to an aircraft. This
isn't even a true "installation" in my plane any more than a passenger is an
installation but?
>
> Any thoughts
>
> Rick Neilsen
> Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
>
> ---
It sounds like this only applies if you've actually attached a "fuel tank" - i.e
if it's been added to the fuel system with fuel lines, pump and etc. Yeah that
would definitely count as a modification for purposes of the regs I should
think. It's definitely an "installation" of an aux fuel tank.
If it's just a can of gas all sealed up, set in the back seat and therefore not
part of the fuel system, I don't see that it would count as a mod........
LS
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| Subject: | Re: FAASafety.gov - General Information "Law Enforcement Assista |
| From: | "JetPilot" <orcabonita(at)hotmail.com> |
If there is not a line attached to the tank, it is not a mod, its just cargo.
If you hook it into the fuel system, it MIGHT be considered a mod, but that could
also be subject to interpretation of whoever you run into. If you were worried
about it, I would just make it so that I could quickly connect and disconnect
to the fuel system as needed, making it nothing but a gas can carried as
cargo whenever you are at somewhere you might get inspected..
Also, as an experimental plane, I think you are allowed to make modifications without
a bunch of paperwork. It seems that this restriction that FAA is talking
about would apply to a certified aircraft, but I would not think that it would
apply to experimental, it would be worth checking into. The EAA would know
for sure, its a free call.
Mike
--------
"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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| Subject: | Firestar II Center of Gravity? |
| From: | "Goodone" <goodone41(at)verizon.net> |
Would there be any Center-of-Gravity (c.g.) concerns with a Firestar II powered
by a Rotax 503+"C" Gear Box+ Rotax Intake Silencer+3 Blade Warp Drive Prop? I
had a good friend that had an accident in a Firestar II that might well be explained
if this rather heavy power plant system would result in an aft c.g. He
was a rather slim fellow probably weighing around 160 lbs. I would appreciate
any information that you might provide.
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| From: | robert bean <slyck(at)frontiernet.net> |
Well it may not be a Kolb, but it IS an experimental and a pusher (x2)
-and I got to see it fly today. A marvelous effort and a beautiful
flying machine.
72' wingspan, 2 100 hp Curtiss OXX-6 engines.
First one flew right here in 1914
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got off quickly and ran smoothly
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