Kolb-Archive.digest.vol-lw
September 14, 2011 - October 15, 2011
(7) A fixed or ground-adjustable propeller if a powered aircraft other than
a powered glider.
(8) A fixed or feathering propeller system if a powered glider.
(9) A fixed-pitch, semi-rigid, teetering, two-blade rotor system, if a
gyroplane.
(10) A nonpressurized cabin, if equipped with a cabin.
(11) Fixed landing gear, except for an aircraft intended for operation on
water or a glider.
(12) Fixed or retractable landing gear, or a hull, for an aircraft intended
for operation on water.
(13) Fixed or retractable landing gear for a glider.
Notice number 7. To operate as an LSA the aircraft has to have a fixed pitc
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or ground adjustable propeller.
Now look at that phrase in the opening "has continued to meet the following
"
That means if you put an inflight adjustable propeller on your aircraft it
not only is no longer an LSA, *it can NEVER be one again. *Even if you take
the prop off, once the aircraft has been outside the LSA definition you
can't bring it back in.
You say your aircraft is an ELSA-AM built. There is no such thing. It is
either an Experimental Light Sport Aircraft (E-LSA) or an Experimental
Amateur Built aircraft (E-AB). Now if your aircraft is an E-AB and you put
an inflight adjustable prop on it continues as before, except that it can n
o
longer be flown by a person with a Light Sport ticket. The lowest rating to
fly it would be a private pilot ticket. If your aircraft is registered E-LS
A
and you put the inflight adjustable prop on it your Experimental
Airworthiness Certificate is void and no one can fly it. You also cannot ge
t
a new A/W certificate as an E-AB either.
Rick Girard
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 10:39 AM, b d wrote:
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> If you're you're running a 2 stroke, you may want to retain your edge and
> consider it probably will quit in the next 30 sec. :-) *". . . find
> myself always on edge thinking that little sucker is going to quit in the
> next 30 seconds"*.
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> Check out the times on Rotax engines . . the real times under the ones fo
r
> sale like: "Plane has 100 hrs, engine just overhauled" Be looking for a
> good 4 stroke.
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> Bruce
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> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 8:22 AM, FIRESTARII wrote:
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>> Hello everybody sorry I did not post my engine type regardless its a
>> 503DCDI oil injected. As far as EGT/CHT both fall well within the
>> recommended range under the current set up. Based on that I have a tend
ency
>> to believe that the "Tach" is reading slightly high of the actual RPMs s
o
>> this week I am going to try out an optical tach that I have used previou
sly
>> on my model airplanes and helicopters for tuning purposed as it is very
>> small and adjustable for 2 or 3 blade configurations. I will post the
>> results and data.
>> Additionally the reply about pulling the certs confused me somewhat it i
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>> registered to the best of my knowledge ELSA-AMbuilt? So the statement a
bout
>> the prop is above my level of comprehension? Huh?
>> If the man with the prop for sale would email or call me I would like to
>> try to get something worked out with ya. two one six-288-forty two ten.
>> The airplane fly's great the way it is but as all airplane owners know
>> there is always room for improvement. I am very spoiled because for the
>> last ten years I have flown only turbo-jets or high perf pistons with
>> constant speed props. As an unintended consequence I have found I am
>> extremely sensitive to RPM variations in flight and find myself aways on
>> edge thinking that little sucker is going to quit in the next 30 seconds
.
>> BTW I fly the airplane with that in mind:)!
>> My goal here is simply to improve the overall usability of the bird as I
>> absolutely love her and if it works the way the ones on the Lycomings an
d
>> Continentals do I believe it would be a wonderful addition. Let me know
>> what you guys figure out and thanks again for your input.
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| Subject: | Re: New FireStar II Owner |
| From: | "FIRESTARII" <CCMFarms(at)aol.com> |
:D Ok airplane certs say its Experimental Amiture Built. Sooo if I understand
correctly putting the in flight adjustable propconstant speed prop on there then
its a non issue and since I have all required ratings(ATP,ME-CFII) then there
is no problem. Also I just flew it and checked the RPM static is 6300 and
climb at 45mph indicated is 6800 and i cruise at 5600 to 5800 and about 60mph
indicated. CHT in climb is 300f and EGT is right at 1000 and cruise is 250CHT
and 800 EGT. correct me if I am wrong but that sounds purdy well in line with
exactly what Rotax recommends. Again thanks for all the input.
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| From: | "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: New FireStar II Owner |
Everything sounds fine except your EGT's. They should be about 1150,
other wise you run the risk of carbon build up on the pistons.
Larry
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which includes my email address.
----- Original Message -----
From: FIRESTARII
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 1:12 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: New FireStar II Owner
:D Ok airplane certs say its Experimental Amiture Built. Sooo if I
understand correctly putting the in flight adjustable propconstant speed
prop on there then its a non issue and since I have all required
ratings(ATP,ME-CFII) then there is no problem. Also I just flew it and
checked the RPM static is 6300 and climb at 45mph indicated is 6800 and
i cruise at 5600 to 5800 and about 60mph indicated. CHT in climb is 300f
and EGT is right at 1000 and cruise is 250CHT and 800 EGT. correct me
if I am wrong but that sounds purdy well in line with exactly what Rotax
recommends. Again thanks for all the input.
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Low and Slow FireStar II
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| Subject: | Re: intro and request |
| From: | Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com> |
Lee, I keep hoping for another Kolb flyer in Kansas. Dang!
Rick
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 6:02 AM, Lee Morgan wrote:
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> Rick,****
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> I am located in central ****Massachusetts****, I little more info ,I have
> a sport license and previous planes that I have flown are****
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> a Quicksilver mx, Vector 627, Goldwing, currently the Hawk, I have in the
> works a Rans S-4 Coyote - (just because I got such a good deal on it)****
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> and this winter the MK II.****
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> Lee..****
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Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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| Subject: | Re: New FireStar II Owner |
| From: | "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
All the posts that you have gotten are very much on the money. I would encourage
you to look at the factory Rotax power curves and notice that there is very
little variation between what happens just below the power peak and just above
it. It is to your advantage to pitch the prop just below the power peak static
because while on climb out you will end up right in the sweet spot, which is
actually fairly broad.
Your ideal is to have the airplane hit red line at full throttle in level flight.
That will work well in all regimes. An rpm higher than that will often give
you egt's above safe in other regimes. Not to mention sucking up extra fuel.
Welcome aboard
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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Hebrews 11:1
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| From: | Gary Aman <zeprep251(at)aol.com> |
Low N slow,
Welcome to the Kolb World.There are a couple of us Kolb flyers in the area.
Look up 1D4,just between CAK and AKR,2300 ' of grass.My MK3C flies out of t
his field.We are off to a fly in or breakfast at least every flyable Saturd
ay.Wadsworth (3G3) has got to be close for you.Breakfast and lunch there on
the 17th,or fly up to ,Geauga County(7G8).We have 3 restaurants near runwa
ys with-in 30 mins of us.We are just your speed!
G.Aman MK3C Jabiru 2200A 670hrs
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| Subject: | Re: Single Liftstrut for FireFly... message for undoctor |
Henry,
I am afraid about all I can offer is these photos, as the details of the strut
mod has escaped my memory. I cant believe it has been almost 9 years since I began
that firefly..Oct 2002...whew! I can tell you I remember discussing it with
Dennis Sauder to get any tips, and what it might do to the performance. Also
his verification that the reason the firefly had the 2 strut design was to increase
drag..to help get past the FAA's requirements and meet part 103 according
to some formula they use. Anyway..it made a huge difference in speed. After
consulting with Dennis..I realized what potential that craft has, and I decided
to enclose the rear cage also..and undertake various other drag reduction
mods an so on..it raised the top speed of that craft so much no one would believe
it , so I didnt brag on it much for fear of the disbelief it would bring anyway.
I will mention this, should you proceed with this project, it is very critical
to get the airframe in the "in flight attitude" and align the struts with the
airflow/airstream..NOT the airframe...for maximum relief from drag. if you dont,
those streamline struts will act like flaps...which they do BTW in slow speed
nose up attitudes.
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Don G.
Central Illinois
Kitfox IV Speedster
Luscombe 8A
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| Subject: | Re: Single Liftstrut for FireFly... message for undoctor |
Henry, I looked back in the archives just now..didnt spend too much time there
but I did find this..relating to Dennis Souder and my conversation about the Firefly..not
alot of details bu it will give you a date to narrow down the search..which
was march of 05.
Unfortunately my builders site was at Geocities..and as most know they are defunct..I
have most of the photos on discs I think...somewhere....
(Copied from archives)
Don,
What can I say ... very impressive design changes and craftsmanship!
Actually, not to worry, Dennis doesn't cringe over such things. Things that
have caused Dennis to cringe have been things like a VW installed in a Kolb
Flyer. Yes that's right - not a Soob in an UltraStar (although that does
carry some cringe factor too) - but a Flyer. Luckily I talked him about of
the VW, but lo and behold next time I visited he had 4 Chrysler West Bend
engines installed. Just had to have 4 cylinders, it would seem.
Reminiscent of that game wack-a-mole ... kept bopping away at the cylinders
and they would just pop up elsewhere else! Listening to Aubrey Radford talk
about his flying at SNF caused me to cringe, to say nothing about hearing
about what happened later. Oh yea, watching that old Kolb video with the
aerobatics causes me to cringe too.
The FireFly was just an original FireStar attacked by a huge pair of snips.
Homer's turn to cringe! Engine was too tough to cut, so we kept that
intact.
Thanks for the FF tour!
Dennis
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From: "Don Gherardini"
Subject: Kolb-List: FireFly Update and Mods..
>
> Well everyone.....I have updated my Website a little..to reflect the mods
> that are taking place.
> Here is a link to page 14...the enclosure page..showing the method I used
to
> enclose the upper rear half of the cage..and the 10 gallon Challenger tank
> is installed on page 15. The single strut mod is on a page labled strut
mods
> . Menu is on the bottom of each page.
>
>
> ...My apoligies to Dennis Souder who's work on designing this bird still
has
> not been equaled in this industry. It probably makes Dennis cringe when he
> sees a great airplane like the FireFly all messed up like this..If I
> designed this airplane..it probably would make me feel that away!...So
> Dennis..you better not look at these pages pard. You have been awfully
> helpful, cordial and respectful to me..and I think you designed the best
> ultralight in the industry!...and...I believe it still is even after
several
> years! Hard to believe no body has done it since.
>
>
> here is a link to page 14
> http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/enclosure.htm
>
>
> Don G
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Don G.
Central Illinois
Kitfox IV Speedster
Luscombe 8A
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| From: | "FIRESTARII" <CCMFarms(at)aol.com> |
:D Thanks so much, unfortunately I will be departing 15G(Skypark) today at about
1330 heading to the farm. I will be looking for you and your friends in the
near future and will swing by your place as soon as I get a chance. Thanks to
everybody that responded to my posts! Every body "Fly Safe"!
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Low and Slow FireStar II
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| Subject: | Re: Single Liftstrut for FireFly... message for undoctor |
HOLY COW HENRY!,,, that photo is one of the most fabulous I have ever seen...what
a shot!
And yes..the streamline tubing is alum from wicks, Cant remember what size..same
as used on a CGS hawk tho, I remember that being a deciding factor for sizing
it...(ask Kulpski to measure it)..and the steel is 4130 chrome-moly.
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Don G.
Central Illinois
Kitfox IV Speedster
Luscombe 8A
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| Subject: | Thom, Chris or Jabiru owners |
| From: | "tkben002" <tkben002(at)bellsouth.net> |
I am at a point where I do not know what to do next. I have a Kolbra with a solid
lifter Jabiru 2200 with 50 hrs on the engine and 25 on the plane.
I have been battling a high cht temp on cylinders 3 and 4. I only have 2 cht probes
and they are currently on #3 and 4 which are my hottest (#4) and coldest
(#3). The coldest will hit around 260F in climb and cool off to about 200f in
cruise. The hottest will hit 345 to 350f in climb then I generally lower the
nose and cool it off alittle and at cruise will range from 315 to 330f. I can
adjust these temps somewhat by tilting the carb back and forth and when the
carb is close to center but not quite I can get even cht's on both cylinders
in idle and up to about 1300 rpm while taxiing.
Now, the harder part. My egt's have been about 100f apart and pretty consistent
around 1100 on cylinders 2 and 4 and 1200 on cylinders 1 and 3. Last weekend
a friend at the airport (with a sonex and 3300) noticed that I did not have
a tube from the carb to the air filter and recommended that I put one in so, I
did. Yesterday when I flew all was as usual except when I reached 100ft altitute
my red light on the eis was going off and I was not expecting that. The
EGT on cylinders 1 and 3 was up to 1450-1460 in full power climb and the egt on
cylinders 2 and 4 what around 1380. As I began to throttle back and egts reduced
when at pattern altitude and around 2700 rpm. The egt on cylinders 1 and
3 took longer and a little lower rpm to cool off back in the 1368 or less range.
Next I commense to tilting the carb to adjust the fuel/air mixture to cylinders
1 and 3 to get the egts down and nothing I do makes any difference. It was recommended
to reject the carb and I was handed a 283 jet and replaced the 276
that was in the carb. The main jet is a 255. I flew some more and the egts on
cylinders 2 and 4 reduced to around 1225 to 1250 but the egts on cylinders 1
and 3 was still at 1450 in full power climb. I suspected a fuel flow issue so
I tried the electric fuel pump and it made no difference either.
I did not want to do any damage so I took off the air vent hose on the carb and
went around the pattern and all was back to usual except when I reduced throttle
in the pattern the engine started sputtering and I thought it was going to
quit but It didnt. Needless to say but I think it was too rich so I jetted the
carb back to the 276 that came with it and it went back to usual. Now I am
back to square one. I know the mixture is rich and I am burning more than 4
gallons per hour and do not know what to do next.
Thom and Chris, I know each of you have the jabiru 2200 on yours, any recommendations?
I was told that since my BRS sits right in front of my carb that it could
be causing some problems and that I should run a remote air filter with scat
hose.
Thanks,
Travis Bennett
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| Subject: | Re: Thom, Chris or Jabiru owners |
| From: | "ces308" <ces308(at)ldaco.com> |
Hello Travis,
First of all....I have no idea what jet I have in my carb...and I only have
cht and egt for 2 cylinders which to start with were on cyls 3 & 4 ( the ones
toward the leading edge of the wing)..before I changed the cht to 1&2, cht's on
3 & 4 would run 260 - 280* ..but since I over headed my #2 cyl in a ground test
run last winter I moved the cht's to 1 & 2 so I know what the back cylinders
are doing...when you look at the picture I submitted, remember that the egt's
are for the front cylinders and I suspect #4 is lower because the compression
was lower in that cylinder and this winter I may clean up and re-ring that
cylinder...how ever , since it doesn't burn a drop of oil now after redoing the
#2 cylinder and at that rpm it seems to burn 3 gph,I may not do anything with
it. I wish I had probs on all the cylinders...
Tilting the carb WILL make a difference...after I got her together this summer
I had the carb on straight and level and on climb at WOT my egt's went to 1390
and when throttled back went back down....after tilting the carb a couple of
times I never had a problem.
my cht 's even on 95* days stay at 320* and coming home the other evening the OAT
was around 65-70 *.
I'm not sure what to tell you,but hope this gives you something to shoot for...according
to Jim at Jabiru Pacific I'm right in the ball park .
chris ambrose
M3X/Jabiru A-2200 225. hrs
N327CS
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| Subject: | Re: Thom, Chris or Jabiru owners |
| From: | "ces308" <ces308(at)ldaco.com> |
Travis,
What rpm are you running at 4 gph?? And I was told you have to have that tube
going into the carb to make it work right...
chris ambrose
M3X/jab a 2200
N327cs
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| Subject: | Re: Thom, Chris or Jabiru owners |
| From: | "tkben002" <tkben002(at)bellsouth.net> |
I am not sure what gph I am running but as I have not done the math because I have
not kept good enough records for it, but I am sure it is over 4 gph right
now. Now when I ran for 1.2 hours yesterday with the tube hooked to the carb
and airfilter the engine ran better and seemed to have more power but I was really
focused in on the high egt. I only have 2 egt and 2 cht probes and wish
I had all 4. I moved mine from #1 and 2 in the back to the front 2 and that is
where they are now as they were the fartherest apart.
thanks,
Travis Bennett
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| Subject: | Re: Thom, Chris or Jabiru owners |
| From: | "ces308" <ces308(at)ldaco.com> |
Travis...
I am confused.....your hottest cylinders are the ones at the front openings of
the air scoops?? ( 3 & 4 ) ??
chris ambrose
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| Subject: | Re: Thom, Chris or Jabiru owners |
| From: | "tkben002" <tkben002(at)bellsouth.net> |
Actually, my hottest cylinders are #2 and 4 with #4 being the hottest. My coldest
is #3. It seems weird that my hottest cylinder is the one in front (fartherest
away from the prop).
Travis Bennett
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| Subject: | Re: Thom, Chris or Jabiru owners |
| From: | "ces308" <ces308(at)ldaco.com> |
Travis...
That is strange......I don't get it.....lets see what Thom thinks...Hmmmm...
chris ambrose
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| Subject: | Re: Thom, Chris or Jabiru owners |
| From: | "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
Travis,
I just got back from the Jabiru Engine seminar at Great Barrington, Mass. last
night and learned a good bit from this excellent class which was far better than
the Rotax 912 class I went to about 6 years ago.
Both the CHTs and EGTs are important but must be addressed separately. Let start
with the EGTs.
1) The float bowl vent nipple MUST be connected to the clean side of the air cleaner
for the carb to have stable mixture.
2) The location of the Carb directly behind the BRS (just like on my Slingshot)
is not an issue, so ignore what "someone said " in this regard.
3) My carb has the original Bing Jet Needle in it, not the newer Jabiru designed
needle.
4) I tried changing the main jet to reduce EGTs at WOT climb. Mine was not as bad
as yours but too high. This helped a little but not enough, even with two sizes
bigger main jet.
5) I changed to smaller needle jet to increase cruise EGTs, again it helped some
but not enough. Mine were not as bad as yours.
6) Pete Krotje told me at the seminar that the jet changes are not as effective
with the old Bing needle as they are with the Jabiru needle so changing that
will be my next step and I suggest that be yours too, if you have the Bing needle.
You can easily tell which needle you have by looking at it. The Bing needle has
the straight (linear) taper. The Jabiru needle has a visually obvious step, no
sharp edges but a rather quickly changing taper. You can see this without dismantling
the carb. Remove the air filter, stick you finger in the inlet throat
and raise the piston/slide to see the needle. If your carb already has the Jabiru
needle and you change the jets and it doesn't work, your next step is to
call for technical help from Shelbyville.
Attached is an image from the Carb Tuning service bulletin JSB018-2 which shows
which jets/needles are recommended base on your serial number and carb size and
lifter type. Take these as a starting point and make small changes from there.
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x32
Truth is what stands the test of experience.
- Albert Einstein
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| Subject: | Re: Thom, Chris or Jabiru owners |
| From: | "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
Travis,
I forgot to ask what prop you have on your Jabby and what rpms you are seeing during
WOT climb at Vy and WOT in straight and level. These are an important part
of EGT tuning.
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x32
Truth is what stands the test of experience.
- Albert Einstein
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| From: | "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart(at)onlyinternet.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Thom, Chris or Jabiru owners |
.........................................
>
>Now, the harder part. My egt's have been about 100f apart and pretty
consistent around 1100 on cylinders 2 and 4 and 1200 on cylinders 1 and 3.
Last weekend a friend at the airport (with a sonex and 3300) noticed that I
did not have a tube from the carb to the air filter and recommended that I
put one in so, I did. Yesterday when I flew all was as usual except when I
reached 100ft altitute my red light on the eis was going off and I was not
expecting that. The EGT on cylinders 1 and 3 was up to 1450-1460 in full
power climb and the egt on cylinders 2 and 4 what around 1380. As I began
to throttle back and egts reduced when at pattern altitude and around 2700
rpm. The egt on cylinders 1 and 3 took longer and a little lower rpm to
cool off back in the 1368 or less range.
>
..................................
Travis,
I am not a Jabiru engine owner, but I can explain part of what happened to
you.
The reason you experienced higher EGT's is because you lowered the air
pressure over the fuel in the float bowl. This action will cause a leaner
running engine. In addition the pressure is controlled by the pressure drop
of the air passing through the filter medium. And, as you open the
throttle, this pressure drop increases as the engine rpm goes up too.
I experimented with an air scoop on the Victor 1+ try and recover some of
the air pressure lost while flowing through the filter. Check out
http://jackbhart.com/firefly/firefly147.html, especially the first data
column. At maximum rpm there was almost a six inch water pressure drop
across the filter when the ram air pressure was applied. Your result will
be similar depending on the filter size relative engine displacement, and
filter dirt load.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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| Subject: | Re: Thom, Chris or Jabiru owners |
| From: | "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
Travis,
CHTs are the other issue which in an uncowled pusher can be addressed only by modifying
the baffles within the air ducts on top of the cylinder heads.
At the inlet of the ducts there should be an aluminum baffle that blocks the bottom
half of the cylinder head of #3 and #4. If you don't have one there, make
and install one. If it covers more than the bottom half or less than the bottom
half, modify it so that it stops at the middle of the cylinder head.
If you already have these baffles as specified, the next step is to add/modify
the upper baffles (attached to the inside of the upper surface of the air ducts.
These should be angled about 45 degrees to deflect incoming air downwards.
Jabiru makes them by adding molding in fiberglass baffles but I don't see why
aluminum riveted in place would not work as well. There should be one above the
center of cylinder #3 and #4. After ensuring the inlet baffles are correct,
you increase the CHT of the cold cylinder by shaving off the upper baffle above
that cylinder about 1/8" at a time (to allow more air to pass above) before
flight testing. To lower the CHT on the hot cylinder, you add to the upper baffle
above that cylinder about 1/8" at a time (to direct more air down around the
hot head) between flight tests.
Since you don't have CHT sensor on cylinders #1 and #2, you don't know what modifications
to make. I suggest you fix the #3 and #4 then move the senors to #1
and #2 and repeat the process.
This can be time consuming and tedious but worth the effort. Once you get them
right you won't have to fuss with them ever again, under normal circumstances.
I was lucky. My CHTs are perfect because the builder of my Slingshot carefully
went through this process.
Back to EGTs:
Once I get my Jabiru needle installed I'll report back on the changes to my EGTs
at during climb and cruise.
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
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| Subject: | Re: Thom, Chris or Jabiru owners |
| From: | "ces308" <ces308(at)ldaco.com> |
Thom...
Do you have any pictures of the scoops/baffles??
Thanks,
chris ambrose
M3X/Jab
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| Subject: | Re: Thom, Chris or Jabiru owners |
| From: | "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
Chris,
I should have taken some photos of the Jabiru J230 (3300) engine that was at the
seminar, but did not. Sorry. The upper deflectors (better term than baffle,
I think) attached to the upper surface inside the Jabby air ducts supplied with
the engine are full width inside the duct but tend to be shorter(height) in
the front and longer(deeper) in the back cylinders. On the J230 I would guess
that the front cylinder air deflector was probably less than 1" top-to bottom
so that a good bit of air is allowed to pass on to the aft cylinders. The 2nd
deflector (centered over the second row of cylinders was perhaps 1/2" longer.
I did not measure these so these are pure guesses from my visual memory.
Each engine/airframe combination must have these deflectors customized for optimum
results. It is actually easier on our pushers because we don't have to mess
with cowl inlet and outlet pressure ratios. It is trial and error but definitely
worth the effort, in my opinion.
All of my CHTs normally are within 20F of each other in cruise but a bit more than
that in WOT climb, which is pretty close. Mine normally read around 260F -280F
during cruise with spark plug CHT rings (not some other technique used by
others).
--------
Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x32
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| Subject: | Re: Thom, Chris or Jabiru owners |
| From: | "ces308" <ces308(at)ldaco.com> |
Thom...
Am I headed in the right direction??
chriis ambrose
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| Subject: | Re: Thom, Chris or Jabiru owners |
| From: | "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
Chris,
It is difficult to tell from your photos but the last one looks like it is about
right for the rearmost cylinder. The front cylinder air deflectors should be
no more than half that height (maybe less?), as a starting point.
Keep in mind that the goal is to have approximately equal amounts of air flow downwards
around both cylinders on each side. Make your deflectors such that they
look like they might do that and that should be a good first start. The one
thing that I did notice is that the deflectors are mounted directly above the
centerline of the cylinder at approximately 45 degrees from the straight back
airflow (like full flaps on the wing) thus deflecting part of the air downwards.
What have your CHTs been running in cruise? How much difference between hottest
and coolest? What about oil temp?
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x32
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| Subject: | Re: Thom, Chris or Jabiru owners |
| From: | "ces308" <ces308(at)ldaco.com> |
Thom..
front cylinders were running 260-270----and the rears low 300....oil temp since
the cooler is 160-170...I will start with the rears and see what happens...are
yours straight across or contoured to the fins??
chris
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| Subject: | Re: Thom, Chris or Jabiru owners |
| From: | "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
Chris,
You have asked me an embarrassing question. Although I've had my air ducts off
numerous times, to do head bolt torque checks and valve clearance adjustments,
I've never examined the deflectors. Since the CHTs have always been close to
each other and all in normal range, I never bothered to look at them closely.
[Embarassed]
My advise is based on what I learned in the Jabiru class I attended this past weekend.
The rear most deflector on the 3300 powered J230 (factory built) I saw
this weekend was contoured to the heads, like your rear one.
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x32
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| Subject: | Re: Thom, Chris or Jabiru owners |
| From: | "tkben002" <tkben002(at)bellsouth.net> |
Thom,
The prop is a warp drive 58" ground adjust. The most rpm I have gotten in a climb
is 3k but mostly 2900 to 2950. (when the tube was attached to the carb is
when I saw the 3k). I do not have any baffles in my air scoops at all (picture
attached). Can you give more info on the front baffles and rear baffles, I
think I understand how to make the top baffles pointing down on the plugs. If
making a fence on the front of the front 2 cylinders how do you attach it to
the cylinders ( just screw into/between the fins with the right size screw?)
I checked my needle in the carb and it is straight as an arrow, no taper that I
could see. Is that hard to change?
Travis Bennett
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| Subject: | Re: Thom, Chris or Jabiru owners |
| From: | "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
Travis,
The first thing I notice looking at the photo you posted is that the spark plug
wires should NOT be routed through the opening of the air ducts. They are blocking
a lot of air flow. Mine are routed over the top. See attached photo.
The jet needle can be changed easily by removing the top(27 in drawing) of the
carb (4 screws - 28 in drawing) and pulling the diaphragm/slide out. Once the
slide(19)/diaphragm is on your bench take the largest common screw driver that
will fit down in the center hole of the slide and remove the aluminum plug from
the slide. This threaded plug (22 in drawing) holds in the jet needle. The
needle is held in the slide with a tiny circlip(21 in drawing). In the Bing needle
there are 4 annular grooves that the circlip can be located in. Normal position
is third from the top (2nd from the bottom). Replace this with the latest
Jabiru needle for the 4 cylinder engines. The Jabiru needle has only one annular
groove for the circlip. All this assumes that some idiot did not put too
much torque on the aluminum plug when screwing it in OR applied permanent loctite
on the threads so you can't get it out. MINE was like that so I got another
slide/diaphragm from a surplus Bing 94 carb which I can remove the aluminum
threaded plug from. I do not use loctite when replacing this plug because it
is aluminum and therefore has a high coefficient of friction and will not back
out by itself. Don't overtorque it or you won't get it out again.
When you've replaced the Bing jet needle with the Jabiru jet needle (call Jabiru
USA for this part) in the slide and the aluminum threaded plug, it is time to
replace the slide/diaprhagm into the carb top. The bottom of the diaphragm has
a protrusion on one side and one side of the carb body has a matching depression
in which the diaphragm protrusion fits into. These must be aligned carefully
when re-fitting the carb top.
Hope this helps.
--------
Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
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| Subject: | Re: Thom, Chris or Jabiru owners |
| From: | "tkben002" <tkben002(at)bellsouth.net> |
Thom,
Do you have any pix of the front of your baffle installation? Where is your BRS
rocket mounted?
I kinda figured the spark plug wires should not be run thru the opening I just
havent gotten around to moving them yet, but I will probably do that first. Still
thinking I should probably just call Jabiru and buy some new ramair ducts
as mine seem a little on the small side.
Travis Bennett
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| From: | Thom Riddle <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Thom, Chris or Jabiru owners |
Travis,,
My BRS is just like yours and located just like yours.
Thom
On Sep 19, 2011, at 7:31 PM, "tkben002" wrote:
>
> Thom,
> Do you have any pix of the front of your baffle installation? Where is your
BRS rocket mounted?
>
> I kinda figured the spark plug wires should not be run thru the opening I just
havent gotten around to moving them yet, but I will probably do that first.
Still thinking I should probably just call Jabiru and buy some new ramair ducts
as mine seem a little on the small side.
>
> Travis Bennett
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Kolb Firestar II for sale |
| From: | "daamille" <jetborne(at)hotmail.com> |
I am currently accepting offers for my Kolb Firestar II for sale.
1994 Kolb Firestar II, 64 TTAF & TTE, N numbered N9534F, FAA certified Experimental
Exhibition, fresh condition inspection 09/07/2011, Rotax 503 DCDI, electric
start, 10 gal of gas, two blade Ivo Prop, aux fuel pump, EGT, CHT, airspeed,
altimeter, tach, hobbs meter, Transcom II intercom, Kuntzleman strobes/nav,
landing lights, 1/4 and 3/4 interchangeable enclosures, quick fold wings, modified
pitot static system, modified tail wheel, new paint in 2008, always hangared,
flown by ATP certificated professional pilot. Starting a family and I don't
have time to fly it. Contact Daryl Miller, Owner - located Avon, IN USA Telephone:
3176584945
Pictures at:
https://picasaweb.google.com/107306451622102944750/Kolb?authuser=0&feat=directlink
Watch a Walk-Around Video at:
http://youtu.be/lPDp50ThecQ
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Firestar II for sale |
| From: | "SS568" <david(at)PaulowniaTrees.com> |
Nice set of pictures Daryl,
Did the Firestar handle any differently after the tail wheel mod?"
Rods instead of springs--
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| Subject: | Re: Thom, Chris or Jabiru owners |
| From: | "tkben002" <tkben002(at)bellsouth.net> |
I called Jabiru US to order some new jets so I can get my EGTs down. I was told
that I would need about a 270 main jet but that probably would not make that
much of a difference anyway. He then began to tell me that in order to solve
my problem I would have to get rid of the warp drive prop and buy something made
of wood with a bigger chord. He told me that the I could probably take off
at 2400 rpms and it would be the same power since the warp drive prop is so
inefficient and cannot handle the full 80 hp of the Jabiru. I thought I had read
before that there are many Titan Tornado owners with the Jabiru and warp drive
props and that they got good performance. Anybody have any other suggestions?
Travis Bennett
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| From: | Thom Riddle <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Thom, Chris or Jabiru owners |
Travis,
Did you tell them it is a pusher, which makes a big difference?
There are three issues with Warp Drive props, one of which is applicable
only with tractor installations.
1) The WD prop does not provide good airflow close to the hub which tractor
installations desperately need, and even tends to block airflow to the duct
inlets on such a narrow engine, like Jabirus. I don't see how this matters
much on a pusher, once you get some airspeed. Taxiing may be a problem but
Jabiru recommends keeping ground operating time to a minimum anyway.
2) The second issue could be that the WD prop "might" exceed the Moment of
Intertia limit on Jabiru engines. I say might because I don't know either
the limit or the MOI of WD prop.
3) Third issue is rotational vibration, which wood props absorb adequately
and WD "may" not.
There is a Titan dealer (Motion Aero) in Utah who has a lot of experience
with both 2200 and 3300 and WD props on Titan Tornados. They would be a ver
y
good source for information on WD on jabiru engines in pushers.
Thom in Buffalo
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 4:22 PM, tkben002 wrote:
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> I called Jabiru US to order some new jets so I can get my EGT=92s down.
I
> was told that I would need about a 270 main jet but that probably would n
ot
> make that much of a difference anyway. He then began to tell me that in
> order to solve my problem I would have to get rid of the warp drive prop
and
> buy something made of wood with a bigger chord. He told me that the I co
uld
> probably take off at 2400 rpms and it would be the same power since the w
arp
> drive prop is so inefficient and cannot handle the full 80 hp of the Jabi
ru.
> I thought I had read before that there are many Titan Tornado owners wit
h
> the Jabiru and warp drive props and that they got good performance. Anyb
ody
> have any other suggestions?
>
> Travis Bennett
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Firestar II for sale |
| From: | "daamille" <jetborne(at)hotmail.com> |
I feel like the ground handling is much more positive then with the springs. Probably
just because it is a direct link. The biggest difference is there are no
springs popping off. :)
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| Subject: | Re: Thom, Chris or Jabiru owners |
| From: | "tkben002" <tkben002(at)bellsouth.net> |
I called Jabiru Pacific and got some advice that seems pretty credible to me.
He told me to take the balance tube that goes from the carby to inside the air
filter and cut it down to 2 or 3 inches and turn it into a static port by drilling
4 holes in the tube 90 degrees apart from each other. Then to fly the plane
and test for the correct egts for climb and cruise. Then if jetting is needed
to go from there. I am not sure what difference there is from making it
a static port vs. being inside the air filter but I guess it is worth a shot.
Travis Bennett
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| Subject: | Re: Thom, Chris or Jabiru owners |
| From: | "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
...Thom,
Do you have any pix of the front of your baffle installation? Where is your BRS
rocket mounted? ...
I do now. See attached photo.
Went to the hangar today to replace the Bing jet needle with the Jabiru jet needle
for the 2200. It made a world of difference. My cruise EGTs with the Bing
needle were around 1225 and it topped 1350 on WOT climb, more or less the opposite
of what they should be. I swapped needles and changed main and needle jets
to the closest I had to what Jabiru recommends for this needle on a solid lifter
2200.
With 255 main jet (235 recommended) and 280 needle jet (as recommended) and Jabiru
needle, I get EGT of 1320-1330 at all cruise rpms below 2900. At 2900 and
above the EGT starts dropping. During climb, I can get to over 500' AGL at WOT
before the EGT starts climbing above 1250 and into the 1325 range. Lowering the
nose to raise the airspeed a little or backing off the throttle a bit gets
the EGTs back down to correct range. I'm perfectly content with the cruise EGT
but might go to a bit larger main jet to reduce the climb EGT. As a side benefit,
the climb RPM went up about 25 rpm and climb rate was up to 1200 fpm from
1100 before.
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x32
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| Subject: | Reklaw Fly-in anyone? |
| From: | "Mic" <miceire(at)gmail.com> |
Because I will be looking for Kolbs, especially any MKIIIXs, at the Flying M Ranch
in Reklaw in October, I was wondering if anyone on this list will be there.
Here's the link if anyone is interested:
http://www.reklawflyin.com/
BTW, I've been following the Kolb with the Jabiru 2200 thread and have enjoyed
it. You guys are great.
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Mic
"It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in
delusion, however satisfying and reassuring."
Carl Sagan
"Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire."
W.B. Yeats
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| Subject: | Re: Thom, Chris or Jabiru owners |
| From: | "ces308" <ces308(at)ldaco.com> |
Thanks Thom !
A picture is worth a thousand words ! Waiting for the weather to break to try out
the deflectors ...I'll let you know what happens..
chris ambrose
M3X/Jabiru A-2200 225.0
N327CS
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| Subject: | Re: Thom, Chris or Jabiru owners |
| From: | "tkben002" <tkben002(at)bellsouth.net> |
Thanks Thom, good pic of the baffles. I will try to make something similar for
mine. I also already have close to the same jets I just need the needle, I will
go ahead and order one I think, and I will make sure I call Jabiru Pacific
for it.
Travis Bennett
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| Subject: | Re: Reklaw Fly-in anyone? |
| From: | "tkben002" <tkben002(at)bellsouth.net> |
I have been contemplating going to this since I bought the Kolbra and I am still
not sure if I will be there or not. I gues it depends on if I get all the kinks
worked out in time.
Travis Bennett
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| From: | Herb <herbgh(at)nctc.com> |
| Subject: | Geo metro stuff for sale |
guys
Buddy of mine went out of the airplane business...He has a 4 cyl
geo engine...1.3 liter single ohc... abt 80 hp.. He had it equipped
with a Simple Digital System fuel injection and ignition
computer...The SDS system includes all the parts to make the Geo
engine run....Fuel pump, Injector rail,Injectors, Ignition coil
packs...etc...Programming module...The engine and sds system was
running on his airplane..He also has a Belt Redrive from someone in
Kansas as I recall...labeled a Mini Merlin Conversion... All of this
stuff , save the engine, has less than 5 hours...the engine came
directly from a wreck...does not use oil .. miles unknown... also
several other engine parts...head, etc..
all yours for best offer....I recall that he had maybe 4500 bucks
in the whole kaboddle.... Herb
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| Subject: | Re: Thom, Chris or Jabiru owners |
| From: | "ces308" <ces308(at)ldaco.com> |
Thom,Travis...
I try the deflectors on the right side this morning and it did drop the temp on
that side from 320 to 296.....then this afternoon it did the other side and WOW
! I changed the location and angle and HOLY COW ! This morning that side was
running 320 and when I flew it 30 minutes ago it was 234 and the right side
was still around 290...(289 actually).
Now I will make one to match the last one I made !
chris ambrose
M3X/Jabiru A-2200
N327CS
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| Subject: | Re: Thom, Chris or Jabiru owners |
| From: | "ces308" <ces308(at)ldaco.com> |
Thom,Travis...
I try the deflectors on the right side this morning and it did drop the temp on
that side from 320 to 296.....then this afternoon it did the other side and WOW
! I changed the location and angle and HOLY COW ! This morning that side was
running 320 and when I flew it 30 minutes ago it was 234 and the right side
was still around 290...(289 actually).
Now I will make one to match the last one I made !
chris ambrose
M3X/Jabiru A-2200
N327CS
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| Subject: | Ohio fly-in first weekend in Oct! |
| From: | "FIRESTARII" <CCMFarms(at)aol.com> |
:D Hey Kolber's and flyer's alike I am inviting everybody to a fly in the first
weekend in October at "Graham Field" in Ohio. It's marked private on the sectionals
and there is no formal identifier. Look on the Cincinnatii sectional
chart and find "Downing I-40" then look south west 10 to 15 miles and you'll see
Graham. It's a pretty long east west grass strip just off of I-36 and there
is a pond just to the south of it. This is an annual fly in where you are sure
to see the wildest flying and coolest airplanes you can imagine. In my humble
opinion it's the best fly in you will see in all of Ohio, Period! Usually
there are several 450HP Steirman's, RV's out the wazzo, and man these guys are
REALLY into big BIG AZZ tires! If you have never seen a Scout or Husky with
40" tall tires your missing out. There are numerous little places to land on
the Graham farm and they usually have a "Short Field TO/Landing contest on Saturday
and thats usually the best day to go. I plan on attending both Sat and
Sun as there is tons to see and do and lots of great people to meet and talk
airplanes with. If you don't have an airplane come any way because usually
there are several guys giving rides. Lots to see and do so get off your computer
and fire up that airplane you have been "going to fly one of these days!"
and come on out. Mostly I don't wanna be the only Kolber there and would love
to meet some of you on this list. Oh, and the easiest way to find the place
is to look for the smoke stacks just south of Coshocton and go west and you can't
miss it! See you there! Thanks again Seth Miller, FSII Skypark, Ohio!
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Low and Slow FireStar II
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| Subject: | Re: Thom, Chris or Jabiru owners |
| From: | Thom Riddle <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
Chris,
Glad to hear they helped so much!
Thom
(sent from iPhone 4)
On Sep 22, 2011, at 6:12 PM, "ces308" wrote:
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> Thom,Travis...
>
> I try the deflectors on the right side this morning and it did drop the temp
on that side from 320 to 296.....then this afternoon it did the other side and
WOW ! I changed the location and angle and HOLY COW ! This morning that side
was running 320 and when I flew it 30 minutes ago it was 234 and the right
side was still around 290...(289 actually).
>
> Now I will make one to match the last one I made !
>
> chris ambrose
> M3X/Jabiru A-2200
> N327CS
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=352990#352990
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| Subject: | Re: Ohio fly-in first weekend in Oct! |
| From: | "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com> |
Seth,
Thanks for the invitation, but per our conversation, I'll be out getting some
refresher tail dragger time.
Safe Flying,
Dennis
Yes that' really me in the cockpit in that photo !
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Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents
the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
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| Subject: | Re: Thom, Chris or Jabiru owners |
| From: | "tkben002" <tkben002(at)bellsouth.net> |
Alright Chris, this thread would not be complete withouth pix and I like pix, so
make sure you take some and show em.
How many baffles did you make per side? Was it a front fence, an upper deflector
and and rear one? I will be making mine this weekend and I plan on only doing
the front fence first and going from there.
Travis Bennett
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| Subject: | Re: Ohio fly-in first weekend in Oct! |
| From: | "FIRESTARII" <CCMFarms(at)aol.com> |
Thats great glad to hear it! Hope all goes well for ya, let me know if I can help
any other way!
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| Subject: | Re: Geo metro stuff for sale |
| From: | robert bean <slyck(at)frontiernet.net> |
The prop hub location may be a consideration. Is mini merlin still in business?
BB
On 22, Sep 2011, at 1:10 PM, Herb wrote:
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> guys
>
> Buddy of mine went out of the airplane business...He has a 4 cyl geo engine...1.3
liter single ohc... abt 80 hp.. He had it equipped with a Simple Digital
System fuel injection and ignition computer...The SDS system includes all the
parts to make the Geo engine run....Fuel pump, Injector rail,Injectors, Ignition
coil packs...etc...Programming module...The engine and sds system was running
on his airplane..He also has a Belt Redrive from someone in Kansas as I recall...labeled
a Mini Merlin Conversion... All of this stuff , save the engine,
has less than 5 hours...the engine came directly from a wreck...does not use
oil .. miles unknown... also several other engine parts...head, etc..
>
> all yours for best offer....I recall that he had maybe 4500 bucks in the whole
kaboddle.... Herb
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Thom, Chris or Jabiru owners |
| From: | "ces308" <ces308(at)ldaco.com> |
Travis...
here are some pictures for you....the scoop with the rivits on a steeper angle
is the way you want to do it...at least 45*....the first one ended up being less
than that and although it worked,it didn't work as well as the second one
I did...also it's aimed toward the front of center...
Take a look and I'll try and answer your questions...I haven't put the ones in
the front yet...
chris ambrose
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| From: | Herb <herbgh(at)nctc.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Geo metro stuff for sale |
Bob
Mini Merlin went out of business.. as I recall... Not sure about
prop diameter...? Likely similar to a 912 ...? Might be a bit
more? Depending on engine mounting... Herb
At 08:21 PM 9/22/2011, you wrote:
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>The prop hub location may be a consideration. Is mini merlin still
>in business?
>BB
>
>On 22, Sep 2011, at 1:10 PM, Herb wrote:
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> >
> > guys
> >
> > Buddy of mine went out of the airplane business...He has a 4 cyl
> geo engine...1.3 liter single ohc... abt 80 hp.. He had it
> equipped with a Simple Digital System fuel injection and ignition
> computer...The SDS system includes all the parts to make the Geo
> engine run....Fuel pump, Injector rail,Injectors, Ignition coil
> packs...etc...Programming module...The engine and sds system was
> running on his airplane..He also has a Belt Redrive from someone in
> Kansas as I recall...labeled a Mini Merlin Conversion... All of
> this stuff , save the engine, has less than 5 hours...the engine
> came directly from a wreck...does not use oil .. miles unknown...
> also several other engine parts...head, etc..
> >
> > all yours for best offer....I recall that he had maybe
> 4500 bucks in the whole kaboddle.... Herb
> >
> >
> >
> >
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| Subject: | Re: Thom, Chris or Jabiru owners |
| From: | "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
Chris,
In your photo, is your EIS reading 1326 and 1128 EGTs?
If so, that is quite a spread. Are they on opposite sides? If so, you may be able
to get a better balance by tilting the carb bottom (float bowl) about 10 or
more degrees toward the lean side, instead of level.
There is an airflow divider in the intake, oriented vertically, that smoothes the
fuel/air flow before the fuel is completely atomized. However, it also splits
the flow somewhat. The fuel comes into the venturi from the bottom and the
airflow tends to spiral somewhat so one side frequently gets a richer mixture
than the other side. According to Pete Krotje, this can be offset by tilting the
float bowl toward the lean side.
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x32
Truth is what stands the test of experience.
- Albert Einstein
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| Subject: | Re: Thom, Chris or Jabiru owners |
| From: | "ces308" <ces308(at)ldaco.com> |
Thom...
I did that and it did help some...the egt's are on 3 & 4 respectively with 4 having
the lowest compression of the 3...(65#)....in your opinion would that make
it lower?? This winter I am planning on cleaning that cylinder up and re ring
it...2&4 were the 2 cylinders that got hot during that mess I went through
last winter when I had the engine stoppage problem..
chris ambrose
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| Subject: | Re: Thom, Chris or Jabiru owners |
| From: | "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
Chris,
Lower compression means lower power but not by much. I doubt that in itself would
mean lower EGT. It is possible you have a valve issue or something else. I
can't remember if your engine is a solid lifter or hydraulic lifter. If solid,
do you adjust them at every oil change? Do you check the head bolt torque then
too? Just thinking out loud.
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x32
Truth is what stands the test of experience.
- Albert Einstein
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| Subject: | Re: Thom, Chris or Jabiru owners |
| From: | "ces308" <ces308(at)ldaco.com> |
Thom...
Every 50 hrs...and the clearances have been right on...in fact the last time was
20 hrs ago....and I do think there is some leakage with the valves on that cylinder.
Maybe I'll pull that head and try lapping the valves...
chris ambrose
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| From: | Thom Riddle <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Thom, Chris or Jabiru owners |
Chris,
The photo of your forward deflector looks to me like it goes down all the
way to the head fins. If that is the case, then you are probably blocking
air flow to the aft cylinders. Since your two CHT sensors are on the front
cylinders (3 & 4) you should move them to 1 & 2 temporarily to check their
temps. Once you get them all in fairly close to each other, then it doesn't
much matter which ones you monitor thereafter.
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 10:52 PM, ces308 wrote:
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> Thom...
>
> Every 50 hrs...and the clearances have been right on...in fact the last
> time was 20 hrs ago....and I do think there is some leakage with the valves
> on that cylinder. Maybe I'll pull that head and try lapping the valves...
>
> chris ambrose
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Re: Ohio fly-in first weekend in Oct! |
| From: | "SS568" <david(at)PaulowniaTrees.com> |
Seth,
I may be driving up that way on that weekend. Can you give some driving directions.
Maybe an address so as to goggle up directions.
Thanks,
DD
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| Subject: | FSII Full Enclosure |
| From: | "FIRESTARII" <CCMFarms(at)aol.com> |
:D Hello everybody! I have been flying a bunch and tinkering with my IVO prop
and after trying and trying I ended up putting the prop about two turn out from
where it was when I purchased it. This slightly lowered my static RPM's and
improved cruise slightly so...I'm happy... for now! Any how as you know I live
in Ohio and the weather has been getting much cooler and my FS has only a little
dinky windshield. I went out and purchased a sheet of Lexan from the local
Lowe's and enlarged the wind screen by about a foot and it's working great...HOWEVER...I
am still way exposed to the wind and I would like to build a "Full"
enclosure. I was hoping somebody on here would have a set of plans they
could email or send to me and since I am a lazy corporate pilot I would rather
purchase one already built and fit it to my airplane. Either way I want to get
my FS enclosed soon. Let me know what you guys can come up with I and my wife
would really appreciate it! Thanks again everybody and fly safe!
Seth Miller
FSII, Skypark, Ohio
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Low and Slow FireStar II
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| Subject: | Re: Ohio fly-in first weekend in Oct! |
| From: | "FIRESTARII" <CCMFarms(at)aol.com> |
:D Map quest "Adams Mills" Ohio. The runway is located about 1 mile west of that
town next to "Monroe Basin" and just south of state Rt. 16. I believe in previous
post I misspoke and said st rt 36. That is incorrect it is actually off
St. Rt. 16. I apologize although I grew up in Coshocton it has been many years
since I have driven around there, sorry! Again it's "Graham field" marked
PVT on the Cinci sectional! Hope to see you there!
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Low and Slow FireStar II
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| Subject: | Re: Thom, Chris or Jabiru owners |
| From: | "ces308" <ces308(at)ldaco.com> |
Thom...
I have the cht's on 1 & 2 and the egt's on the front cylinders...I wish I had
the 4 cylinder one.... ;(... I know it's kind of confusing... front is back
and left is right....lol
chris ambrose
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | FSII Full Enclosure |
I was hoping somebody on here would have a set of plans they could email
or send to me and since I am a lazy corporate pilot I would rather purchase
one already built and fit it to my airplane. Either way I want to get my FS
enclosed soon. Let me know what you guys can come up with I and my wife
would really appreciate it! Thanks again everyb!
ody and fly safe!
Seth Miller
I believe Travis Brown, at Kolb Aircraft Company, can provide all your
requests.
john h
mkIII
Rock House, Oregon
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| From: | Thom Riddle <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Thom, Chris or Jabiru owners |
Chris,
My EIS is a very old model. When I bought the SS, all four cylinders
had CHTs but no EGTs. Since all four were close to each other and way
below the too hot zone, I swapped one of the CHT sensors for an EGT
(#4, right front on pusher). I now plan to swap out the CHT sensor of
#3 for a second EGT so I can have two of each. EGTs on front and CHTs
on aft cylinders.
The important thing is for you to know that all four CHTs are roughly
the same and well in the green. Once you get your baffles and
deflectors trimmed and positioned to achieve that, it is probably not
all that important to monitor all of them simultaneously. At least
that is the way I'm going to do mine.
Thom
On Sep 23, 2011, at 2:43 PM, "ces308" wrote:
>
> Thom...
>
> I have the cht's on 1 & 2 and the egt's on the front cylinders...I wish I had
the 4 cylinder one.... ;(... I know it's kind of confusing... front is back
and left is right....lol
>
> chris ambrose
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353055#353055
>
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| Subject: | Re: Thom, Chris or Jabiru owners |
| From: | "ces308" <ces308(at)ldaco.com> |
Thom-all...
It's just too much info anyway....heck ,my Skyhawk has an oil press and temp,of
which really tells you next to nothing and an egt that I don't trust anyway
! lol
chris ambrose
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| From: | Renee <ulflygirl(at)mysky.us> |
| Subject: | Re: Thom, Chris or Jabiru owners |
I love having all the info from eis. All cylinders wired etc. My first installation
of eis showed my hotest cylinder well in range, but 100 hotter than the other
(377). Found a scored cylinder fast. Also i dont worry much about all the
numbers most of the time. Just configure the alarm limits low ( just above normal
indications) and wait for the red light. The light is tested every time i
start up due to how the fuel probe works.
Happy flying
Renee
Bas spellong blaned on ophone :)
On Sep 23, 2011, at 5:58 PM, "ces308" wrote:
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> Thom-all...
>
> It's just too much info anyway....heck ,my Skyhawk has an oil press and temp,of
which really tells you next to nothing and an egt that I don't trust anyway
! lol
>
> chris ambrose
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Thom, Chris or Jabiru owners |
| From: | "ces308" <ces308(at)ldaco.com> |
Hello Renee...
What are you flying?? And I take it it has a Jabiru ??
chris ambrose
M3X/jabiru A-2200
N327CS
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| From: | Renee <ulflygirl(at)mysky.us> |
| Subject: | Re: Thom, Chris or Jabiru owners |
My first eis was for a 377 on a firestar. Second was for a 503 on rans s14. Planning
on a 3rd for sonex. Was looking at a mx3x but missed it.
Renee
Bas spellong blaned on ophone :)
On Sep 23, 2011, at 7:24 PM, "ces308" wrote:
>
> Hello Renee...
>
> What are you flying?? And I take it it has a Jabiru ??
>
> chris ambrose
> M3X/jabiru A-2200
> N327CS
>
>
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>
> Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Re: EIS Capacitor exploded |
| From: | "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com> |
Finally got it replaced today....and in my case it just went down for no traceable
reason, including filling the cockpit of the Firestar up with acrid smoke
. The capacitor did what it was designed to do, protect from a spike, No damage
to my EIS!
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Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents
the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
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| From: | WhiskeyVictor36(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Rotax 447 rubber carb socket |
Hi all,
I am trying to find the source of a better quality rubber carb socket for
my Rotax 447. Previously I've seen this remarked about on the list and I
think it was a company named JDM. But I haven't found it in the archives
nor on ebay, which is where it was supposedly advertised. Can anyone help?
Bill Varnes
Original Kolb FireStar
Audubon NJ
Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 447 rubber carb socket |
| From: | "209GS" <guebbing(at)aol.com> |
http://jbmindustries.com/ROTAX.htm
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Gerry Uebbing
Firestar II 503 b-box
(not flying yet)
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Rotax 447 rubber carb socket |
I am trying to find the source of a better quality rubber carb socket for my
Rotax 447. Previously I've seen this remarked about on the list and I think
it was a company named JDM. But I haven't found it in the archives nor on
ebay, which is where it was supposedly advertised. Can anyone help?
Bill Varnes
Bill/Folks:
Try this one:
http://jbmindustries.com/
I bought their SS springs for my Titan Exhaust System. They were expensive,
but they are much, much better quality than the standard spring.
john h
mkIII
Rock House, Oregon
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| From: | Stephen Spence <sspence801(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Rotax 447 rubber carb socket |
This what I found:=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A=0AHauck wrot
e: << BTW: I took advice from the List and bought the SS exhaust =0Asprings
from:=0Ahttp://jbmindustries.com/ROTAX.htm I installed them a couple days
ago ... Only =0Aoperational hours will tell if they are as good as advertis
ed. >>=0AKolb Friends =93=0AJBM also sells after-market replacement r
ubber boots for the Bing carbs. =0AAnybody have experience with these? My 9
12 is due for new carb boots, and the =0ARotax boots are somewhat expensive
. The JBM website claims that their =9Cexact =0Areplacement=9D
part for this item will outlast the Rotax boot, at less than half =0Athe co
st.=0AAm hoping someone on this List has bought these rubber boots from JBM
, and can =0Acomment on their quality and longevity.=0AMany thanks
=93=0ADennis Kirby=0AMark-III, 912ul, Powerfin-72=0A=C2-=0ASteve Spence
=0AAuburn Hills, MI=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom:
"WhiskeyVictor36(at)aol.com" =0ATo: kolb-list@matroni
cs.com=0ASent: Sun, September 25, 2011 2:19:01 PM=0ASubject: Kolb-List: Rot
ax 447 rubber carb socket=0A=0AHi all,=0A=0AI am trying to find the source
of a better quality rubber carb socket for my =0ARotax 447.=C2- Previousl
y I've seen this remarked about on the list and I think it =0Awas a company
named JDM.=C2- But I haven't found it in the archives nor on ebay, =0Awh
ich is where it was supposedly advertised.=C2- Can anyone help?=0A=0ABill
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| From: | "Ron @ KFHU" <captainron1(at)cox.net> |
| Subject: | Kolbs in Florida |
Folks I am thinking of finally of moving to Florida. Any of you Floridians that
can shed some light on where is the best place for Kolbs Gen-ave cities to live.
I intend to spend about 3 weeks looking at places in Florida to call home.
Any suggestions and ideas would be good.
I will need a reasonable priced hanger to finish my M3x and that is probably one
of the main considerations for a place to move to. I'd prefer southern Florida.
Thanks
Ron @ KFHU
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| Subject: | Re: Kolbs in Florida |
take a look at the Sebring area, i liked it there and lots of general
avaition...also Lockwood avai. for parts....
Jim Swan Kolb Firestar ll, 503 Rotax , 6147 Wilcox Rd., Eaton Rapids, Mi
48827 ph 517-663-8488 GPS GPS FOR MY RUNWAY N 42 deg 28.581 W084deg 44.825
In a message dated 9/26/2011 12:16:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
captainron1(at)cox.net writes:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ron @ KFHU"
Folks I am thinking of finally of moving to Florida. Any of you Floridians
that can shed some light on where is the best place for Kolbs Gen-ave
cities to live. I intend to spend about 3 weeks looking at places in Florida to
call home.
Any suggestions and ideas would be good.
I will need a reasonable priced hanger to finish my M3x and that is
probably one of the main considerations for a place to move to. I'd prefer
southern Florida.
Thanks
Ron @ KFHU
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| From: | stevesimmons(at)charter.net |
| Subject: | Kolbs in Florida |
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 6:13 PM, Ron @ KFHU wrote:
>
> Folks I am thinking of finally of moving to Florida. Any of you
> Floridians that can shed some light on where is the best place for
> Kolbs Gen-ave cities to live. I intend to spend about 3 weeks looking
> at places in Florida to call home. Any suggestions and ideas would be
> good.
> I will need a reasonable priced hanger to finish my M3x and that is
> probably one of the main considerations for a place to move to. I'd
> prefer southern Florida.
>
> Thanks
> Ron @ KFHU
>
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| From: | stevesimmons(at)charter.net |
| Subject: | Kolbs in Florida |
Look at Bushnell Florida, I haver a friend there that lives at an Air
Park his name is Steve Flynn mail(at)centralfloridaflyers.com I think he
could give you a few ideals. Good luck
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 6:13 PM, Ron @ KFHU wrote:
>
> Folks I am thinking of finally of moving to Florida. Any of you
> Floridians that can shed some light on where is the best place for
> Kolbs Gen-ave cities to live. I intend to spend about 3 weeks looking
> at places in Florida to call home. Any suggestions and ideas would be
> good.
> I will need a reasonable priced hanger to finish my M3x and that is
> probably one of the main considerations for a place to move to. I'd
> prefer southern Florida.
>
> Thanks
> Ron @ KFHU
>
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| From: | Michael Welch <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Kolbs in Florida |
Steve,
Are you referring to Florida Gators Airpark? I was just there visiting last
month.
Mike Welch
On Sep 26, 2011, at 1:01 PM, stevesimmons(at)charter.net wrote:
>
>
> Look at Bushnell Florida, I haver a friend there that lives at an Air Park his
name is Steve Flynn mail(at)centralfloridaflyers.com I think he could give you
a few ideals. Good luck
>
> On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 6:13 PM, Ron @ KFHU wrote:
>
>>
>> Folks I am thinking of finally of moving to Florida. Any of you Floridians that
can shed some light on where is the best place for Kolbs Gen-ave cities to
live. I intend to spend about 3 weeks looking at places in Florida to call home.
Any suggestions and ideas would be good.
>> I will need a reasonable priced hanger to finish my M3x and that is probably
one of the main considerations for a place to move to. I'd prefer southern Florida.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Ron @ KFHU
>>
>
>
>
>
>
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| From: | Michael Welch <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Kolbs in Florida |
Steve,
I did some quick checking, and see that Florida Gators Airpark is NOT the folks
you referred to,
although their airfield is only a few minutes away. I visited BOTH in July.
From my understanding, though, the Central Florida Flyers seemed to be more a
closed airfield,
and used exclusively for their own hang-gliding instruction. I could be mistaken....but
that certainly the impression I got
when I talk with the main guy in charge.
Mike Welch
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| From: | chris davis <capedavis(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Kolbs in Florida |
I cant help you out in southern Fl. but I have a place in NW Fl.Nice hanger
shop with- a 16 X80 Mobile home , 4 acres of land access to a 3000 ft gr
ass strip for sale or rent Id love to rent it .Email me off list if you are
interested . Oh its in O'Brien just about 2miles from Suwanee River=0A=0A
=0AChris Davis=0AKXP 503 492 hrs=0AGlider Pilot=0ADisabled from crash build
ing Firefly=0A=0AFrom: "Ron @ KFHU" <captainron1(at)cox.net>=0ATo: kolb-list@
matronics.com=0ASent: Monday, September 26, 2011 12:13 PM=0ASubject: Kolb-L
HU" =0A=0AFolks I am thinking of finally of moving to
Florida. Any of you Floridians that can shed some light on where is the bes
t place for Kolbs Gen-ave cities to live. I intend to spend about 3 weeks l
ooking at places in Florida to call home. =0AAny suggestions and ideas woul
d be good.=0AI will need a reasonable priced hanger to finish my M3x and th
at is probably one of the main considerations for a place to move to. I'd p
- - - - - - - - - - - - - -Matt Dralle, List Adm
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| From: | stevesimmons(at)charter.net |
| Subject: | Re: Kolbs in Florida |
The name of the field is Flying W Airranch
2 miles west of Bushnell Fl I75 Exit. I am not sure what the political
enviroment is there however Steve Flynn I am sure would be of some help.
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 8:31 PM, Michael Welch wrote:
>
>
> Steve,
>
> Are you referring to Florida Gators Airpark? I was just there
> visiting last month.
>
> Mike Welch
>
>
> On Sep 26, 2011, at 1:01 PM, stevesimmons(at)charter.net wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Look at Bushnell Florida, I haver a friend there that lives at an Air
>> Park his name is Steve Flynn mail(at)centralfloridaflyers.com I think he
>> could give you a few ideals. Good luck
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 6:13 PM, Ron @ KFHU wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Folks I am thinking of finally of moving to Florida. Any of you
>>> Floridians that can shed some light on where is the best place for
>>> Kolbs Gen-ave cities to live. I intend to spend about 3 weeks
>>> looking at places in Florida to call home. Any suggestions and ideas
>>> would be good.
>>> I will need a reasonable priced hanger to finish my M3x and that is
>>> probably one of the main considerations for a place to move to. I'd
>>> prefer southern Florida.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Ron @ KFHU
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| From: | "Ron @ KFHU" <captainron1(at)cox.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Kolbs in Florida |
Okay I am going to look at it, I have all the sectionals and also Google earth.
I'll try to get it right the first time in terms of picking a place. Its not
an easy thing to make such an important decision.
Ron @ KFHU
=============
---- Arksey(at)aol.com wrote:
============
take a look at the Sebring area, i liked it there and lots of general
avaition...also Lockwood avai. for parts....
Jim Swan Kolb Firestar ll, 503 Rotax , 6147 Wilcox Rd., Eaton Rapids, Mi
48827 ph 517-663-8488 GPS GPS FOR MY RUNWAY N 42 deg 28.581 W084deg 44.825
In a message dated 9/26/2011 12:16:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
captainron1(at)cox.net writes:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ron @ KFHU"
Folks I am thinking of finally of moving to Florida. Any of you Floridians
that can shed some light on where is the best place for Kolbs Gen-ave
cities to live. I intend to spend about 3 weeks looking at places in Florida to
call home.
Any suggestions and ideas would be good.
I will need a reasonable priced hanger to finish my M3x and that is
probably one of the main considerations for a place to move to. I'd prefer
southern Florida.
Thanks
Ron @ KFHU
--
kugelair.com
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| From: | "Ron @ KFHU" <captainron1(at)cox.net> |
| Subject: | Kolbs in Florida |
Okay I'll send him an email.
---- stevesimmons(at)charter.net wrote:
============
Look at Bushnell Florida, I haver a friend there that lives at an Air
Park his name is Steve Flynn mail(at)centralfloridaflyers.com I think he
could give you a few ideals. Good luck
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 6:13 PM, Ron @ KFHU wrote:
>
> Folks I am thinking of finally of moving to Florida. Any of you
> Floridians that can shed some light on where is the best place for
> Kolbs Gen-ave cities to live. I intend to spend about 3 weeks looking
> at places in Florida to call home. Any suggestions and ideas would be
> good.
> I will need a reasonable priced hanger to finish my M3x and that is
> probably one of the main considerations for a place to move to. I'd
> prefer southern Florida.
>
> Thanks
> Ron @ KFHU
>
--
kugelair.com
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| From: | "Ron @ KFHU" <captainron1(at)cox.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Kolbs in Florida |
Thanks chris but it has to be down south, as I am not retired or retiring, business
flying needs to be plentiful.
Ron @ KFHU
====================
---- chris davis wrote:
============
I cant help you out in southern Fl. but I have a place in NW Fl.Nice hanger shop
with a 16 X80 Mobile home , 4 acres of land access to a 3000 ft grass strip
for sale or rent Id love to rent it .Email me off list if you are interested .
Oh its in O'Brien just about 2miles from Suwanee River
Chris Davis
KXP 503 492 hrs
Glider Pilot
Disabled from crash building Firefly
From: "Ron @ KFHU" <captainron1(at)cox.net>
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 12:13 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Kolbs in Florida
Folks I am thinking of finally of moving to Florida. Any of you Floridians that
can shed some light on where is the best place for Kolbs Gen-ave cities to live.
I intend to spend about 3 weeks looking at places in Florida to call home.
Any suggestions and ideas would be good.
I will need a reasonable priced hanger to finish my M3x and that is probably one
of the main considerations for a place to move to. I'd p -Matt
Dralle, List Adm=====
--
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| Subject: | Re: Kolbs in Florida |
| From: | robert bean <slyck(at)frontiernet.net> |
Steve, thanks for the info. That strip is just a few miles from my roach infested
trailer. The sectional says pvt. which put me off from investigating.
I don't know if this property is still available but a heckova deal if it is: http://www.aviationhomes.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album06
My place is east of Floral City and Flying W is south of the Villages by a few
miles.
I'll likely be over there doing some tire kicking this winter.
BB, MkIII, suzuki, altimeter has bug in it.
(BTW, email me direct if you want my opinion on living in FL year around)
On 26, Sep 2011, at 5:11 PM, stevesimmons(at)charter.net wrote:
>
> The name of the field is Flying W Airranch
> 2 miles west of Bushnell Fl I75 Exit. I am not sure what the political enviroment
is there however Steve Flynn I am sure would be of some help.
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 8:31 PM, Michael Welch wrote:
>
>>
>> Steve,
>>
>> Are you referring to Florida Gators Airpark? I was just there visiting last
month.
>>
>> Mike Welch
>>
>>
>> On Sep 26, 2011, at 1:01 PM, stevesimmons(at)charter.net wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Look at Bushnell Florida, I haver a friend there that lives at an Air Park
his name is Steve Flynn mail(at)centralfloridaflyers.com I think he could give you
a few ideals. Good luck
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 6:13 PM, Ron @ KFHU wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Folks I am thinking of finally of moving to Florida. Any of you Floridians
that can shed some light on where is the best place for Kolbs Gen-ave cities
to live. I intend to spend about 3 weeks looking at places in Florida to call
home. Any suggestions and ideas would be good.
>>>> I will need a reasonable priced hanger to finish my M3x and that is probably
one of the main considerations for a place to move to. I'd prefer southern
Florida.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Ron @ KFHU
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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| From: | WhiskeyVictor36(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Rotax 447 rubber carb socket |
Boy, that was a fast response!
Thanks to all who responded to my quest for the carb rubber socket. In my
older age I forgot the name of the supplier. I was thinking JDM
Manufacturing when it was really JBM Industries. Again, thanks guys for the rapid
response.
Bill Varnes
In a message dated 9/25/2011 2:40:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
guebbing(at)aol.com writes:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "209GS"
http://jbmindustries.com/ROTAX.htm
--------
Gerry Uebbing
Firestar II 503 b-box
(not flying yet)
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| Subject: | Re: Kolbs in Florida |
| From: | Rick Neilsen <neilsenrm(at)gmail.com> |
Ron
I own a home in Venice, FL. The winters are great but a bit warm for me in
the summer so I move back to Michigan for the warm months. Generally
speaking the closer to the water the warmer it is in the winter and cooler
in the summer. Venice is very affordable for housing but hanger rent is
high, $300 a month and Jet traffic is a bit concerning at Venice.
There are a number of small town airports in the middle of south Florida
that have nice airports. There are even some small grass strips where hanger
rent would be much less. Again in land the temperatures go more to
the extremes.
Michigan has been trying to chase me to Florida with all their tax
increases. Florida has no personal income tax. Enjoy.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 4:13 PM, chris davis wrote:
> I cant help you out in southern Fl. but I have a place in NW Fl.Nice hanger
> shop with a 16 X80 Mobile home , 4 acres of land access to a 3000 ft grass
> strip for sale or rent Id love to rent it .Email me off list if you are
> interested . Oh its in O'Brien just about 2miles from Suwanee River
>
> Chris Davis
> KXP 503 492 hrs
> Glider Pilot
> Disabled from crash building Firefly
> *From:* "Ron @ KFHU"
> *To:* kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> *Sent:* Monday, September 26, 2011 12:13 PM
> *Subject:* Kolb-List: Kolbs in Florida
>
>
> Folks I am thinking of finally of moving to Florida. Any of you Floridians
> that can shed some light on where is the best place for Kolbs Gen-ave
> cities to live. I intend to spend about 3 weeks looking at places in Florida
> to call home.
> Any suggestions and ideas would be good.
> I will need a reasonable priced hanger to finish my M3x and that is
> probably one of the main considerations for a place to move to. I'd prefer
> southern Florida.
>
> Thanks
> http://forums.matronics. -Matt Dralle, List
> Admin.<======
>
>
> <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List>
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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| From: | "Ron @ KFHU" <captainron1(at)cox.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Kolbs in Florida |
thanks Rick
I will certainly check it out on my trip. It is a bit further north then Ideal,
but no point finding out that down south is too expensive to live. $300 is what
I am paying now for hanger space so that is just in line with my budget.
Also seems to be close to some major cities where there is some commercial prospects,
all in all it may be okay.
I agree if they make life too miserable up there in MI leave them be to stew in
their own juices, we have one life why give anyone a minute of ours if its not
a good bargain. Florida seems to be a friendly state, so is Texas like them
both a lot, they are both very good to aviation. I think though as for experimental
(Kolb) aviation flying infrastructure, and all of that Florida is one of
the best, plus the Caribbean is beckoning, :-)
Ron @ KFHU
========================
---- Rick Neilsen wrote:
============
Ron
I own a home in Venice, FL. The winters are great but a bit warm for me in
the summer so I move back to Michigan for the warm months. Generally
speaking the closer to the water the warmer it is in the winter and cooler
in the summer. Venice is very affordable for housing but hanger rent is
high, $300 a month and Jet traffic is a bit concerning at Venice.
There are a number of small town airports in the middle of south Florida
that have nice airports. There are even some small grass strips where hanger
rent would be much less. Again in land the temperatures go more to
the extremes.
Michigan has been trying to chase me to Florida with all their tax
increases. Florida has no personal income tax. Enjoy.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 4:13 PM, chris davis wrote:
> I cant help you out in southern Fl. but I have a place in NW Fl.Nice hanger
> shop with a 16 X80 Mobile home , 4 acres of land access to a 3000 ft grass
> strip for sale or rent Id love to rent it .Email me off list if you are
> interested . Oh its in O'Brien just about 2miles from Suwanee River
>
> Chris Davis
> KXP 503 492 hrs
> Glider Pilot
> Disabled from crash building Firefly
> *From:* "Ron @ KFHU"
> *To:* kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> *Sent:* Monday, September 26, 2011 12:13 PM
> *Subject:* Kolb-List: Kolbs in Florida
>
>
> Folks I am thinking of finally of moving to Florida. Any of you Floridians
> that can shed some light on where is the best place for Kolbs Gen-ave
> cities to live. I intend to spend about 3 weeks looking at places in Florida
> to call home.
> Any suggestions and ideas would be good.
> I will need a reasonable priced hanger to finish my M3x and that is
> probably one of the main considerations for a place to move to. I'd prefer
> southern Florida.
>
> Thanks
> http://forums.matronics. -Matt Dralle, List
> Admin.<======
>
>
> <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List>
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kolbs in Florida |
| From: | "Watkinsdw" <david.watkins0(at)gmail.com> |
I keep my Mk3C at Pompano, but the hangars are VERY expensive. Fortunately, the
flying club I belong to has a 1/2 "T" hangar to keep our stuff in. I can fold
my Kolb and slip it into the stem of the "T," for very little money. There are
two airports I'm familiar that might be more affordable.
Homestead General (X51) has a community of ultralighters, one or two Kolbs, and a fairly active organization (see http://lafa.com/). Not sure what hangars cost.
Airglades (2IS) Clewiston, has a about 5 good people who fly drifters and other
ultralights. Good hangars, electric doors. Clewiston is a very sleepy town at
the SW corner of Lake Okeechobee. I'm not sure about cost of hangars, or how
cordial the management is. They look down their noses on ultralights, but rent
to them. Since you have a general aviation aircraft too, they'll probably give
you more respect. They are in good Kolbable country, no controlled airspace,
lots of grassy fields to fly low and slow around.
Good luck, and keep us posted. Hopefully we can meet over a really expensive hamburger
when you get settled.
Dave Watkins
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353331#353331
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| Subject: | Re: Thom, Chris or Jabiru owners |
| From: | "ces308" <ces308(at)ldaco.com> |
Thom....
Where are your cht sensors on you back cylinders?? I had one on the rear plug and
on eon the front plug not thinking it would make that much difference,but it
does...with the air blowing on the front with the sensor it read 260....on
the other side,air blowing in the same place ,but the sensor on the rear plug,it
read 301...I moved the right side to the front plug and it now reads 270-280*....and
I'm guessing my rocket that sticks up about 12 in in front of that
scoop could be making the 10* dif in temp...??? you think???
Oh yeah...I did turn the carb a little bit more and it is now within a 100* of
each other...(EGT)
chris ambrose
N327CS
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| Subject: | Re: Thom, Chris or Jabiru owners |
| From: | "tkben002" <tkben002(at)bellsouth.net> |
Chris,
Jabiru recommends that the cht probes are on the exhaust side plugs of each cylinder.
For us on our 2200 that would be the either front or back plugs as the
intake is the middle 2 on each side. I have a pretty good difference from side
to side on chts and I thought it could be because of the rocket for brs also.
If you see my above pic in an earlier post the rocket is in front of my hotter
side.
I did not make any baffles yet as I did not get to fly much over the weekend but
I did make the static tube for the carb as recommended by Jabiru Pacific and
it lowered my EGT's by 100 degrees. But I still have some testing to do.
Travis Bennett
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| From: | Sky Biker <smlplanet(at)msn.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Kolbs in Florida |
I see where Clewiston was mentioned=2C you may also want to check out La Be
lle which is west of Clewiston and closer to Ft Myers.
There are private hangs at one end of the grass air strip that are not as h
igh as the county hanger and are enclosed with electric doors.
Some of the UL people keep their planes there. Like Dave said there is a lo
t of good flying spaces around here. With all the sod farm and pastures eas
y to find places to land if need be. You are also close to the gulf if you
like flying over the water and seeing the marine life below.
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolbs in Florida
> From: david.watkins0(at)gmail.com
> Date: Tue=2C 27 Sep 2011 10:38:48 -0700
> To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
>
>
> I keep my Mk3C at Pompano=2C but the hangars are VERY expensive. Fortunat
ely=2C the flying club I belong to has a 1/2 "T" hangar to keep our stuff i
n. I can fold my Kolb and slip it into the stem of the "T=2C" for very litt
le money. There are two airports I'm familiar that might be more affordable
.
>
> Homestead General (X51) has a community of ultralighters=2C one or two Ko
lbs=2C and a fairly active organization (see http://lafa.com/). Not sure wh
at hangars cost.
>
> Airglades (2IS) Clewiston=2C has a about 5 good people who fly drifters a
nd other ultralights. Good hangars=2C electric doors. Clewiston is a very s
leepy town at the SW corner of Lake Okeechobee. I'm not sure about cost of
hangars=2C or how cordial the management is. They look down their noses on
ultralights=2C but rent to them. Since you have a general aviation aircraft
too=2C they'll probably give you more respect. They are in good Kolbable c
ountry=2C no controlled airspace=2C lots of grassy fields to fly low and sl
ow around.
>
> Good luck=2C and keep us posted. Hopefully we can meet over a really expe
nsive hamburger when you get settled.
>
> Dave Watkins
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353331#353331
>
>
>
>
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| From: | "Ron @ KFHU" <captainron1(at)cox.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Kolbs in Florida |
Dave
I checked Pompano twice already this past year. I thought that it was an ideal
place. When I found out they want 700 per month I had to turn it down. But by
far it's the most ideal location for me. Nice and cozy and nearby to the major
hubs. The cost though chased me away. From what I gather some outfit from up
north bought the hanger rights to it, and executive and jacked up the prices from
still expensive 500 per month. I think they want about 100 per month for outside
parking. It may be a real-estate play, chase the airplanes out and build
condos.
I will look up the Kolbers when I settled down a bit. I have an extra mode C transponder
so I can fly in any of the airspace down there with the Kolb.
---- Watkinsdw wrote:
============
I keep my Mk3C at Pompano, but the hangars are VERY expensive. Fortunately, the
flying club I belong to has a 1/2 "T" hangar to keep our stuff in. I can fold
my Kolb and slip it into the stem of the "T," for very little money. There are
two airports I'm familiar that might be more affordable.
Homestead General (X51) has a community of ultralighters, one or two Kolbs, and a fairly active organization (see http://lafa.com/). Not sure what hangars cost.
Airglades (2IS) Clewiston, has a about 5 good people who fly drifters and other
ultralights. Good hangars, electric doors. Clewiston is a very sleepy town at
the SW corner of Lake Okeechobee. I'm not sure about cost of hangars, or how
cordial the management is. They look down their noses on ultralights, but rent
to them. Since you have a general aviation aircraft too, they'll probably give
you more respect. They are in good Kolbable country, no controlled airspace,
lots of grassy fields to fly low and slow around.
Good luck, and keep us posted. Hopefully we can meet over a really expensive hamburger
when you get settled.
Dave Watkins
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353331#353331
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| From: | "Ron @ KFHU" <captainron1(at)cox.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Kolbs in Florida |
Flying over the gulf and seeing the marine life would be super, can't wait to be
there.
---- Sky Biker wrote:
============
I see where Clewiston was mentioned, you may also want to check out La Belle which
is west of Clewiston and closer to Ft Myers.
There are private hangs at one end of the grass air strip that are not as high
as the county hanger and are enclosed with electric doors.
Some of the UL people keep their planes there. Like Dave said there is a lot of
good flying spaces around here. With all the sod farm and pastures easy to find
places to land if need be. You are also close to the gulf if you like flying
over the water and seeing the marine life below.
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolbs in Florida
> From: david.watkins0(at)gmail.com
> Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 10:38:48 -0700
> To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
>
>
> I keep my Mk3C at Pompano, but the hangars are VERY expensive. Fortunately, the
flying club I belong to has a 1/2 "T" hangar to keep our stuff in. I can fold
my Kolb and slip it into the stem of the "T," for very little money. There
are two airports I'm familiar that might be more affordable.
>
> Homestead General (X51) has a community of ultralighters, one or two Kolbs, and a fairly active organization (see http://lafa.com/). Not sure what hangars cost.
>
> Airglades (2IS) Clewiston, has a about 5 good people who fly drifters and other
ultralights. Good hangars, electric doors. Clewiston is a very sleepy town
at the SW corner of Lake Okeechobee. I'm not sure about cost of hangars, or how
cordial the management is. They look down their noses on ultralights, but rent
to them. Since you have a general aviation aircraft too, they'll probably give
you more respect. They are in good Kolbable country, no controlled airspace,
lots of grassy fields to fly low and slow around.
>
> Good luck, and keep us posted. Hopefully we can meet over a really expensive
hamburger when you get settled.
>
> Dave Watkins
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353331#353331
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| From: | Thom Riddle <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Thom, Chris or Jabiru owners |
Chris,
Jabiru says to put the CHT spark plug ring sensors on the plug nearest the
exhaust port, which is the hotter of the two spark plug locations. That is
where mine are. Jabiru also states that the spark plug gasket that comes
with the spark plug should be removed (temporarily) from the plug that gets
the CHT ring, then put back on that plug after the CHT ring is in place.
Thus, the CHT ring does not make direct contact with the head. It is
sandwiched between the plug and the gasket.
However, I remove the spark plug gasket and discard it, replacing it with
the CHT sensor ring on that plug. My reason for doing that is three fold.
One, the electrode location in the combustion chamber is somewhat important
so adding the CHT ring AND the gasket moves it away from its intended
location. Two, the CHT sensor gets direct contact with the cylinder head
instead of being removed from it by the thickness of the gasket. Three, heat
transfer between the head and plug depends upon contact area so adding a bit
of thickness reduces this contact area. I've been doing this for a long time
on all aircraft engines per other manufacturers' recommendations and what I
learned in A&P school.
At the Jabiru seminar I recently attended I asked Pete Krotje why they want
the gasket between the CHT ring and the head. He said that there have been
some cases of leaking around the CHT sensor ring when the gasket is removed.
I suggested that that is probably being caused by overtorqueing the spark
plugs, a common but bad practice. He agreed that that may be the cause, So,
I intend to continue installing the CHT sensor rings on the exhaust side
plug without the gasket on that plug, and torqueing properly. I also make
sure that the ring to wire connection and the wire itself is laid down
between the head fins to keep the junction exposure to airflow to a minimum.
I am not sure how important any of these little differences are but the
cumulative effect is probably measurable.
Thom
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 8:19 PM, ces308 wrote:
>
> Thom....
>
> Where are your cht sensors on you back cylinders?? I had one on the rear
> plug and on eon the front plug not thinking it would make that much
> difference,but it does...with the air blowing on the front with the sensor
> it read 260....on the other side,air blowing in the same place ,but the
> sensor on the rear plug,it read 301...I moved the right side to the front
> plug and it now reads 270-280*....and I'm guessing my rocket that sticks up
> about 12 in in front of that scoop could be making the 10* dif in temp...???
> you think???
>
> Oh yeah...I did turn the carb a little bit more and it is now within a 100*
> of each other...(EGT)
>
> chris ambrose
> N327CS
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353367#353367
>
>
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| From: | Thom Riddle <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Thom, Chris or Jabiru owners |
My BRS rocket is in the same relative position as all Jabiru engine Kolbs.
No meaningful difference from side -to- side but mine has had the
baffles/deflectors tweaked to get that result. Regardless of the cause, the
cure is the same.
Thom
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 9:16 PM, tkben002 wrote:
>
> Chris,
>
> Jabiru recommends that the cht probes are on the exhaust side plugs of each
> cylinder. For us on our 2200 that would be the either front or back plugs
> as the intake is the middle 2 on each side. I have a pretty good difference
> from side to side on chts and I thought it could be because of the rocket
> for brs also. If you see my above pic in an earlier post the rocket is in
> front of my hotter side.
>
> I did not make any baffles yet as I did not get to fly much over the
> weekend but I did make the static tube for the carb as recommended by Jabiru
> Pacific and it lowered my EGT's by 100 degrees. But I still have some
> testing to do.
>
> Travis Bennett
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353372#353372
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Firestar II for sale |
| From: | "Ozarkflyer" <lragan(at)hotmail.com> |
Daryl
Is your FS II still for sale?
thx
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| Subject: | Any Kolbs in the Arkansas/ So. Missouri |
| From: | "Ozarkflyer" <lragan(at)hotmail.com> |
area? I'm seriously considering a FS II but the only Kolb I've actually been next
to is John Hauck's when he was passing through Arkansas a year or two ago.
I'd like to visit with someone who owns one. What's the recommended transition
for a C-172 pilot?
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| From: | Michael Welch <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Any Kolbs in the Arkansas/ So. Missouri |
Larry,
Why not get ahold of Dennis Long? He lives fairly close to you. Plus, he just
learned to fly the MkIII
that he bought earlier this year.
Mike Welch
On Sep 28, 2011, at 10:08 AM, Ozarkflyer wrote:
>
> area? I'm seriously considering a FS II but the only Kolb I've actually been
next to is John Hauck's when he was passing through Arkansas a year or two ago.
I'd like to visit with someone who owns one. What's the recommended transition
for a C-172 pilot?
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353416#353416
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Firestar II for sale |
| From: | "daamille" <jetborne(at)hotmail.com> |
Yes it is. Feel free to give me a call (number in the ad) if you are interested.
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| From: | stevesimmons(at)charter.net |
| Subject: | Any Kolbs in the Arkansas/ So. Missouri |
The only tail drager time i had before i bought a firefly was about 700
hours in a DC3, not much of a comparison, however I had a friend who
owned a 7ac champ, after 35 to 40 to and landings i finally had enough
confidence to crow hop the kolb; after about 4 or 5 hops I did one too
many on a 5300 foot runway and had no choise but to do a trafic pattern.
before I attempted to land I took it out and did some stalls and slow
flight and finally landed with supprising ease. I think however there
is nothing like proper transition training with a kolb mark iii WITH A
COMPETENT INSTRUCTOR GOOD LUCK:
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Ozarkflyer wrote:
>
> area? I'm seriously considering a FS II but the only Kolb I've
> actually been next to is John Hauck's when he was passing through
> Arkansas a year or two ago. I'd like to visit with someone who owns
> one. What's the recommended transition for a C-172 pilot?
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353416#353416
>
>
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Any Kolbs in the Arkansas/ So. Missouri |
before I attempted to land I took it out and did some stalls and slow
flight and finally landed with supprising ease. I think however there
is nothing like proper transition training with a kolb mark iii WITH A
COMPETENT INSTRUCTOR GOOD LUCK:
The Kolb flies nothing like an SR-71.
Establish stall speed on first flight, and keep it above that speed until you are
back on earth.
Folks stall Kolbs at 10 feet AGL and are surprised when they wipe out the main
gear.
Fly it like an airplane, taking into consideration it has very little inertia.
Land it on the ground, not 10 feet up. Keep a good cross check on the ASI during
the landing phase.
john h
mkIII
Rock House, Oregon
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| From: | chris davis <capedavis(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Any Kolbs in the Arkansas/ So. Missouri |
I agree with John H . and I d even suggest" WHEEL LANDING " if- you have
experiance with them . The Kolb will do anything you ask as long as you kee
p the speed above stall !-- Good luck=0A=0A=0AChris Davis=0AKXP 503 492
hrs=0AGlider Pilot=0ADisabled from crash building Firefly=0A=0A=0A________
________________________=0AFrom: John Hauck <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>=0ATo: ko
lb-list(at)matronics.com=0ASent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 4:18 PM=0ASubje
ct: RE: Kolb-List: Any Kolbs in the Arkansas/ So. Missouri=0A=0A--> Kolb-Li
st message posted by: "John Hauck" =0A=0A=0A=0A=0Abef
ore I attempted to land I took it out and did some stalls and slow =0Afligh
t and finally- landed with supprising ease. I think however there =0Ais n
othing like- proper transition training with a kolb mark iii WITH A =0ACO
MPETENT INSTRUCTOR GOOD LUCK:=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AThe Kolb flies nothing like an
SR-71.=0A=0AEstablish stall speed on first flight, and keep it above that s
peed until you are back on earth.=0A=0AFolks stall Kolbs at 10 feet AGL and
are surprised when they wipe out the main gear.=0A=0AFly it like an airpla
ne, taking into consideration it has very little inertia.- Land it on the
ground, not 10 feet up.- Keep a good cross check on the ASI during the l
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| Subject: | Re: Thom, Chris or Jabiru owners |
| From: | "ces308" <ces308(at)ldaco.com> |
Thom..Travis..
I was hoping thats how you got the 260* temp on the back cylinders..I am moving
it back to the rear plug...all in all the deflector did lower the temp from 320
to 300,so I can live with that...
Just a thought..( it's starting to hurt my little brain though) ,The front intake
IS deeper on the left side (because the cylinders are back on that side) ...could
that be a factor in the cooling???
chris ambrose
M3X/Jabiru A-2200
N327CS
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| Subject: | Re: Thom, Chris or Jabiru owners |
| From: | "tkben002" <tkben002(at)bellsouth.net> |
I had thought of that also. I figured that the rocket possibly disrupted some
airflow (minor) and that the duct on cylinders 1 and 3 was longer before the cylinder
starts would have some effect overall on cooling. I have not made my
baffles yet but I will start on one side and put the cht probes on both cylinders
on the side so I can adjust the front and back at the same time and not worry
about overheating either one. When I finish 1 side I will move on to the
next side. I agree with Thom that "the cure is the same" that it is just going
to take time and trial and error to get the correct baffling from front to
back, but once it is done, it will be done and should not have to mess with it
again.
I do not remember if i posted this but when I moved my spark plug wires from in
front of the baffle openings like in the picture a few posts back, to over the
top of the ducts and out of the way, that my actual temperatures went up. I
was a little suprised by this result but hopefully it will be easy to work thru
to get the desired result.
Travis Bennett
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| Subject: | Re: Any Kolbs in the Arkansas/ So. Missouri |
| From: | "Ozarkflyer" <lragan(at)hotmail.com> |
Does Dennis Long monitor this forum? Where does he live and how can I contact
him? Thanks for the responses.
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| From: | Thom Riddle <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Thom, Chris or Jabiru owners |
The front intake IS deeper on the left side (because the cylinders are
back on that side) ...could that be a factor in the cooling???
Chris,
I have no idea, in fact I never noticed this. By deeper, do you meant top to
bottom of opening or front to back?
Thom
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 5:24 PM, ces308 wrote:
>
> Thom..Travis..
>
> I was hoping thats how you got the 260* temp on the back cylinders..I am
> moving it back to the rear plug...all in all the deflector did lower the
> temp from 320 to 300,so I can live with that...
>
> Just a thought..( it's starting to hurt my little brain though) ,The front
> intake IS deeper on the left side (because the cylinders are back on that
> side) ...could that be a factor in the cooling???
>
> chris ambrose
> M3X/Jabiru A-2200
> N327CS
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353464#353464
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Thom, Chris or Jabiru owners |
| From: | "ces308" <ces308(at)ldaco.com> |
Thom...
from the front of the scoop to the fins are deeper on the left side( cylinder set
back) where the right side the fins are right at the front of the scoops..
chris ambrose
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| Subject: | Re: Any Kolbs in the Arkansas/ So. Missouri |
| From: | "stogie6" <djones(at)fisherarnold.com> |
Dennis can be reached by cell phone (901)356-1439 or email at dlong1957(at)yahoo.com.
I have a Kolb Firestar KXP that I keep at Colonial Airpark just east of the Olive
Branch, MS airport. My email is djones(at)dfjarchitect.com or cell number (901)
493-8296.
I transitioned from a Piper Cherokee 140/150 to this wonderful airplane!
Call me or Dennis and we will talk your ears off about it!
David F. Jones
Kolb Firestar KXP
N71RB
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Kolb KXP
N71RB
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| Subject: | Windshield Gap Seal Fairing |
| From: | "zeus627" <brad(at)mykcwireless.com> |
I have a Mark III C and I'm looking for a way to seal the opening between the top
of the windshield and the wing gap seal. I know that the Mark III Xtra has
a fiberglass fairing for this area that gets velcroed on. Does anybody know
if that part fits on the Classic or if there is one available for the Classic?
I've toyed with the idea of laying one up with fiberglass, but only as a last
resort. Has anybody come up with a way to make one out of aluminum, lexan,
or something else? I've tried a couple of things like weatherstripping, but it
doesn't work very well and looks cheesy. Winter's coming, and I'm trying to
seal up the openings. Thanks.
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| From: | Michael Welch <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Windshield Gap Seal Fairing |
Brad,
The fairing required for the 'windshield and the center gap' for the Xtra and
the older MkIII
aren't even close.
The ONLY way to achieve what you are after is to make your own. Making it out
of fiberglass is
going to be the easiest way to make a smooth flow. You could make it out of other
materials, but I think it
would be more work to get the smooth contours in aluminum, Lexan, etc.
I had to make my own fairing like you describe. It's not too hard, especially
since it is a fairly small project.
If you decide to go this route, contact me off-list, and I'll walk you through
the steps I used.
Mike Welch
On Sep 29, 2011, at 2:05 PM, zeus627 wrote:
>
> I have a Mark III C and I'm looking for a way to seal the opening between the
top of the windshield and the wing gap seal. I know that the Mark III Xtra has
a fiberglass fairing for this area that gets velcroed on. Does anybody know
if that part fits on the Classic or if there is one available for the Classic?
I've toyed with the idea of laying one up with fiberglass, but only as a last
resort. Has anybody come up with a way to make one out of aluminum, lexan,
or something else? I've tried a couple of things like weatherstripping, but
it doesn't work very well and looks cheesy. Winter's coming, and I'm trying
to seal up the openings. Thanks.
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| Subject: | Re: Windshield Gap Seal Fairing |
| From: | Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com> |
It IS cheesy, but it works and you can make it in 5 minutes or less for $5
or less. Get a piece of foam pipe insulation of the largest diameter you can
find, get a bread knife and start carving. A 10 foot piece will give you at
least three tries, six if you're careful. Use double back tape to hold it
on. Although cheesy, if you spend a little time on it you can make it fit
and look good.
It has the advantage of being able to take it off easily in the summer when
that air flowing into a hot cockpit is pretty nice.
Rick Girard
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Michael Welch wrote:
>
> Brad,
>
> The fairing required for the 'windshield and the center gap' for the Xtra
> and the older MkIII
> aren't even close.
>
> The ONLY way to achieve what you are after is to make your own. Making it
> out of fiberglass is
> going to be the easiest way to make a smooth flow. You could make it out
> of other materials, but I think it
> would be more work to get the smooth contours in aluminum, Lexan, etc.
>
> I had to make my own fairing like you describe. It's not too hard,
> especially since it is a fairly small project.
>
> If you decide to go this route, contact me off-list, and I'll walk you
> through the steps I used.
>
> Mike Welch
>
>
> On Sep 29, 2011, at 2:05 PM, zeus627 wrote:
>
> >
> > I have a Mark III C and I'm looking for a way to seal the opening between
> the top of the windshield and the wing gap seal. I know that the Mark III
> Xtra has a fiberglass fairing for this area that gets velcroed on. Does
> anybody know if that part fits on the Classic or if there is one available
> for the Classic? I've toyed with the idea of laying one up with fiberglass,
> but only as a last resort. Has anybody come up with a way to make one out
> of aluminum, lexan, or something else? I've tried a couple of things like
> weatherstripping, but it doesn't work very well and looks cheesy. Winter's
> coming, and I'm trying to seal up the openings. Thanks.
>
>
--
Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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| Subject: | Defective fuel pickup |
| From: | "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
This last week end we had a failure of the fuel pickup on one gas tank of FSII
N582EF. After landing, one tank had approx 1.5 gallons left, the other tank was
full. Disassembling the fuel lines, hoses and the pickup, it was discovered
that the fuel pickup would not allow any gas to pass through it. This is the
in-tank fuel filter that California Power Systems sells as part #7129, and Aircraft
Spruce sells as #05-01031.
Further investigation revealed that this is not simply a fuel pickup, it is also
a ball-check valve, and the ball was stuck. Taking the valve to the work bench
and smacking the ball with a drift & hammer got it freed up, however I will
be replacing it with a simple finger strainer type pickup, and the identical
pickup from the other tank will be discarded and replaced with a simple finger
strainer type pickup.
In my opinion, this is a non-airworthy design. There is no reason to have a ball
check valve as part of a fuel pickup. I realize that not having a ball check
valve in the system can allow the fuel to drain back downhill from the carbs
into the gas tank, but that is why they sell fuel pumps. Had the flight lasted
30 minutes longer, the outcome probably would have been a media event.
The partially disassembled one is the one that stuck, I was trying to see if the
ball check valve can be removed. Not readily. The other one is original.
--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Hebrews 11:1
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| Subject: | Re: Windshield Gap Seal Fairing |
| From: | "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
Here's how we did the FSII. Taped a piece of paper on and trimmed to shape, did
it again with aluminum flashing, when that was right, made the real one out of
thin aluminum sheet.
Since the MKIII windshield swings a bigger arc, not sure how it would work, or
even if it would work, but for what it's worth....
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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Hebrews 11:1
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| Subject: | Re: Defective fuel pickup |
| From: | robert bean <slyck(at)frontiernet.net> |
Richard, I skipped the pickup filter idea. I take it you use a downward dip tube
like I do,
Mine is a straight copper tube, cut at an angle at the end that extends to within
1/4 -1/2" of the bottom.
Any sludge, particles or water stays on the bottom of the tanks. I have yet to
see any.
The top/dip tube design avoids any problems with leakage and possible tank splits
promoted by a hole in the bottom.
My filter and pump are below the tanks. I have a small final filter just before
the carb.
BB
MkIII, suzuki
On 29, Sep 2011, at 6:10 PM, Richard Pike wrote:
>
> This last week end we had a failure of the fuel pickup on one gas tank of FSII
N582EF. After landing, one tank had approx 1.5 gallons left, the other tank
was full. Disassembling the fuel lines, hoses and the pickup, it was discovered
that the fuel pickup would not allow any gas to pass through it. This is the
in-tank fuel filter that California Power Systems sells as part #7129, and Aircraft
Spruce sells as #05-01031.
>
> Further investigation revealed that this is not simply a fuel pickup, it is also
a ball-check valve, and the ball was stuck. Taking the valve to the work bench
and smacking the ball with a drift & hammer got it freed up, however I will
be replacing it with a simple finger strainer type pickup, and the identical
pickup from the other tank will be discarded and replaced with a simple finger
strainer type pickup.
>
> In my opinion, this is a non-airworthy design. There is no reason to have a ball
check valve as part of a fuel pickup. I realize that not having a ball check
valve in the system can allow the fuel to drain back downhill from the carbs
into the gas tank, but that is why they sell fuel pumps. Had the flight lasted
30 minutes longer, the outcome probably would have been a media event.
>
> The partially disassembled one is the one that stuck, I was trying to see if
the ball check valve can be removed. Not readily. The other one is original.
>
> --------
> Richard Pike
> Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org
> Kingsport, TN 3TN0
> Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
> Hebrews 11:1
>
>
>
>
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>
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>
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| Subject: | Re: Defective fuel pickup |
| From: | Thom Riddle <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
BB,
Mine is very similar to yours except the filter is before both fuel pumps (in parallel).
Never seen any crap or water in my filter or downstream thereof.
Thom
(sent from iPhone 4)
On Sep 29, 2011, at 6:27 PM, robert bean wrote:
>
> Richard, I skipped the pickup filter idea. I take it you use a downward dip
tube like I do,
> Mine is a straight copper tube, cut at an angle at the end that extends to within
1/4 -1/2" of the bottom.
> Any sludge, particles or water stays on the bottom of the tanks. I have yet
to see any.
>
> The top/dip tube design avoids any problems with leakage and possible tank splits
promoted by a hole in the bottom.
> My filter and pump are below the tanks. I have a small final filter just before
the carb.
> BB
> MkIII, suzuki
>
> On 29, Sep 2011, at 6:10 PM, Richard Pike wrote:
>
>>
>> This last week end we had a failure of the fuel pickup on one gas tank of FSII
N582EF. After landing, one tank had approx 1.5 gallons left, the other tank
was full. Disassembling the fuel lines, hoses and the pickup, it was discovered
that the fuel pickup would not allow any gas to pass through it. This is the
in-tank fuel filter that California Power Systems sells as part #7129, and
Aircraft Spruce sells as #05-01031.
>>
>> Further investigation revealed that this is not simply a fuel pickup, it is
also a ball-check valve, and the ball was stuck. Taking the valve to the work
bench and smacking the ball with a drift & hammer got it freed up, however I
will be replacing it with a simple finger strainer type pickup, and the identical
pickup from the other tank will be discarded and replaced with a simple finger
strainer type pickup.
>>
>> In my opinion, this is a non-airworthy design. There is no reason to have a
ball check valve as part of a fuel pickup. I realize that not having a ball check
valve in the system can allow the fuel to drain back downhill from the carbs
into the gas tank, but that is why they sell fuel pumps. Had the flight lasted
30 minutes longer, the outcome probably would have been a media event.
>>
>> The partially disassembled one is the one that stuck, I was trying to see if
the ball check valve can be removed. Not readily. The other one is original.
>>
>> --------
>> Richard Pike
>> Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>> richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org
>> Kingsport, TN 3TN0
>> Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
>> Hebrews 11:1
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353561#353561
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| Subject: | gotta sell the ultrastar |
| From: | masqqqqqqq(at)aol.com |
This time it's got to go..............
1984 Kolb UltraStar. Needs new fabric covering. Rotax 447 with 2 b
lade Precision prop and 4 blade Ultra Prop. Engine has undetermined hours,
runs great but probably needs rebuilt. BRS parachute, past it's expiratio
n date. Custom open trailer. 5 gallon seat tank and 3 gallon original tank
s. Instrument pod with altimeter, air speed, rpm, dual exhaust temp, dual
head temp. Matco hydraulic brakes. Delcom handheld radio. Comm helmet.
Box of spare parts and stuff.
Overweight for FAR 103, and I never did grandfather it up to Sport.
No building records. $1,000.00 makes it go away. Located in central Wisc
onsin.
Richard Iverson
715 341 7584
masqqqqqqq(at)aol.com
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| Subject: | A Visionary with a Far Reaching Mind |
| From: | "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com> |
A Visionary with a Far Reaching Mind
As a kid I had developed a theory that because a farmer could build a silo
50-75 feet high without a permit he owned the airspace up to that altitude and
should be able to build and fly an airplane that high without a license,
Homer Kolb explained.
--------
Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents
the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
These flying machines are just a fad and will never catch on Unknown
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| Subject: | Re: Defective fuel pickup |
| From: | Ellery Batchelder Jr <elleryweld(at)aol.com> |
I had the same problems in my first ultralight many years ago with only two
2.5 gallon tanks but it never left the neiborhood with so little gas onboa
rd
I would never use any screen or check valve inside a fuel tank system in a
nything that flys I like a gascolator much better
Ellery Batchelder Jr.
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Pike <richard(at)bcchapel.org>
Sent: Thu, Sep 29, 2011 6:12 pm
Subject: Kolb-List: Defective fuel pickup
This last week end we had a failure of the fuel pickup on one gas tank of
FSII
582EF. After landing, one tank had approx 1.5 gallons left, the other tank
was
ull. Disassembling the fuel lines, hoses and the pickup, it was discovered
that
he fuel pickup would not allow any gas to pass through it. This is the in-t
ank
uel filter that California Power Systems sells as part #7129, and Aircraft
pruce sells as #05-01031.
Further investigation revealed that this is not simply a fuel pickup, it is
also
ball-check valve, and the ball was stuck. Taking the valve to the work ben
ch
nd smacking the ball with a drift & hammer got it freed up, however I will
be
eplacing it with a simple finger strainer type pickup, and the identical pi
ckup
rom the other tank will be discarded and replaced with a simple finger stra
iner
ype pickup.
In my opinion, this is a non-airworthy design. There is no reason to have a
ball
heck valve as part of a fuel pickup. I realize that not having a ball check
alve in the system can allow the fuel to drain back downhill from the carbs
nto the gas tank, but that is why they sell fuel pumps. Had the flight last
ed
0 minutes longer, the outcome probably would have been a media event.
The partially disassembled one is the one that stuck, I was trying to see i
f the
all check valve can be removed. Not readily. The other one is original.
--------
ichard Pike
olb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
ichard (at) bcchapel(dot)org
ingsport, TN 3TN0
ow faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not s
een.
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Defective fuel pickup |
Was surprised how small the mess was on the inlet screen. Very susceptible
to blockage.
I pull out of the bottom of my tank through a standard aviation mesh finger
strainer, then through the facet pump which is lower than the bottom of the
tank, and up through the fuel filter and into the engine driven pump on my
912. Have pumped around 15,500 gals through that system in the last 3,100+
hours without a problem. Can't remember when I did it, but I pulled the
finger strainer a thousand hours or so ago. Found some pretty interesting
stuff living on the strainer. Makes me wonder how I was able to get that
much trash through the fuel filler. ;-)
john h
mkIII
Rock House, Oregon
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ellery Batchelder
Jr
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 7:07 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Defective fuel pickup
I had the same problems in my first ultralight many years ago with only two
2.5 gallon tanks but it never left the neiborhood with so little gas onboard
I would never use any screen or check valve inside a fuel tank system in
anything that flys I like a gascolator much better
Ellery Batchelder Jr.
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Pike <richard(at)bcchapel.org>
Sent: Thu, Sep 29, 2011 6:12 pm
Subject: Kolb-List: Defective fuel pickup
This last week end we had a failure of the fuel pickup on one gas tank of
FSII
N582EF. After landing, one tank had approx 1.5 gallons left, the other tank
was
full. Disassembling the fuel lines, hoses and the pickup, it was discovered
that
the fuel pickup would not allow any gas to pass through it. This is the
in-tank
fuel filter that California Power Systems sells as part #7129, and Aircraft
Spruce sells as #05-01031.
Further investigation revealed that this is not simply a fuel pickup, it is
also
a ball-check valve, and the ball was stuck. Taking the valve to the work
bench
and smacking the ball with a drift & hammer got it freed up, however I will
be
replacing it with a simple finger strainer type pickup, and the identical
pickup
from the other tank will be discarded and replaced with a simple finger
strainer
type pickup.
In my opinion, this is a non-airworthy design. There is no reason to have a
ball
check valve as part of a fuel pickup. I realize that not having a ball check
valve in the system can allow the fuel to drain back downhill from the carbs
into the gas tank, but that is why they sell fuel pumps. Had the flight
lasted
30 minutes longer, the outcome probably would have been a media event.
The partially disassembled one is the one that stuck, I was trying to see if
the
ball check valve can be removed. Not readily. The other one is original.
--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not
seen.
Hebrews 11:1
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| From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Defective fuel pickup |
At 09:06 PM 9/29/2011, Ellery Batchelder Jr wrote:
>I had the same problems in my first ultralight many years ago with only
>two 2.5 gallon tanks but it never left the neiborhood with so little gas
>onboard
> I would never use any screen or check valve inside a fuel tank system in
> anything that flys I like a gascolator much better
I have a two check valves on my fuel tank vent. One lets air in at 1/2 psi
during operation, the other lets air out at 6 psi so the tank doesn't
balloon in the sunlight. Keeps the fuel fresh by limiting evaporation
during storage. There is also a screen (not too fine) outside of the vent
to keep bugs and such out.
At the bottom of the tank is a finger strainer made from a brass tube a
couple of inches long with lots of drilled holes, pressed into the Dapco
valve that threads into the bottom of the [aluminum] tank.
-Dana
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| From: | "b young" <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Windshield Gap Seal Fairing |
http://brigham.net/~byoung/gapseal.html
check out this sight, you can see the yellow faring between the
windshield, and the gapseal leading edge. it started as a piece of aluminum
roll that they make continuous rain gutter from. the last picture shows it
from the inside, I used a hvac heating venting air conditioning vent
crimping tool. by crimping at different levels of crimp, I was able to
get the angle of the windshield to the flat bottom side of the gap seal. it
was riveted to the windshield and the metal ring that shapes the windshield,
and the bottom of the gap seal. which is installed permanently.
boyd young mkiii utah
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I have a Mark III C and I'm looking for a way to seal the opening between
the top of the windshield and the wing gap seal. I know that the Mark III
Xtra has a fiberglass fairing for this area that gets velcroed on. Does
anybody know if that part fits on the Classic or if there is one available
for the Classic? I've toyed with the idea of laying one up with fiberglass,
but only as a last resort. Has anybody come up with a way to make one out
of aluminum, lexan, or something else? I've tried a couple of things like
weatherstripping, but it doesn't work very well and looks cheesy. Winter's
coming, and I'm trying to seal up the openings. Thanks.
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| Subject: | Re: Any Kolbs in the Arkansas/ So. Missouri |
| From: | "John Bickham" <gearbender(at)bellsouth.net> |
Seems like you got some leads a lot closer and this may be too far to drive and
not fit your timeline. There will be some Kolbs gathering at my place just
north of Baton Rouge the weekend of Nov 11.
Might be interesting for a C-172 driver to see what these planes can do with a
short field. I used to own a C-172 too.
There should be Kolbs from Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana and Texas. There should
also be a Highlander from TX and a Rans from NM.
More than welcome. Let me know if you need more details.
--------
Thanks too much,
John Bickham
Mark III-C w/ 912UL
St. Francisville, LA
I know many pilots and a few true aviators. There is a distinct difference that
I have the greatest respect for.
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Web Site |
| From: | "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com> |
Now that is pretty cool.
http://www.kolbaircraft.com/
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the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
These flying machines are just a fad and will never catch on Unknown
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| From: | "Ron @ KFHU" <captainron1(at)cox.net> |
| Subject: | Defective fuel pickup |
John
I think the old adage where " I rather be lucky than good" proves itself yet again.
I can tell you about my second flight in the terducktyle but then I may be
banned even riding my Harley, suffice it to say I came back from a flight with
only two nuts holding the c-430 motor mount and they were about 1/4 each threaded
out, no locking nuts no nothing was between them and the tubes. It was
the last time I ever let anyone work on that Ultralight, from then on it was only
I and the damn thing was locked in the hanger. Yes the motor was canted about
30 degrees on the two remaining attach points. Could not see a thing behind
but it did feel weird in the last 15 minutes of flight.
---- John Hauck wrote:
============
Was surprised how small the mess was on the inlet screen. Very susceptible
to blockage.
I pull out of the bottom of my tank through a standard aviation mesh finger
strainer, then through the facet pump which is lower than the bottom of the
tank, and up through the fuel filter and into the engine driven pump on my
912. Have pumped around 15,500 gals through that system in the last 3,100+
hours without a problem. Can't remember when I did it, but I pulled the
finger strainer a thousand hours or so ago. Found some pretty interesting
stuff living on the strainer. Makes me wonder how I was able to get that
much trash through the fuel filler. ;-)
john h
mkIII
Rock House, Oregon
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ellery Batchelder
Jr
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 7:07 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Defective fuel pickup
I had the same problems in my first ultralight many years ago with only two
2.5 gallon tanks but it never left the neiborhood with so little gas onboard
I would never use any screen or check valve inside a fuel tank system in
anything that flys I like a gascolator much better
Ellery Batchelder Jr.
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Pike <richard(at)bcchapel.org>
Sent: Thu, Sep 29, 2011 6:12 pm
Subject: Kolb-List: Defective fuel pickup
This last week end we had a failure of the fuel pickup on one gas tank of
FSII
N582EF. After landing, one tank had approx 1.5 gallons left, the other tank
was
full. Disassembling the fuel lines, hoses and the pickup, it was discovered
that
the fuel pickup would not allow any gas to pass through it. This is the
in-tank
fuel filter that California Power Systems sells as part #7129, and Aircraft
Spruce sells as #05-01031.
Further investigation revealed that this is not simply a fuel pickup, it is
also
a ball-check valve, and the ball was stuck. Taking the valve to the work
bench
and smacking the ball with a drift & hammer got it freed up, however I will
be
replacing it with a simple finger strainer type pickup, and the identical
pickup
from the other tank will be discarded and replaced with a simple finger
strainer
type pickup.
In my opinion, this is a non-airworthy design. There is no reason to have a
ball
check valve as part of a fuel pickup. I realize that not having a ball check
valve in the system can allow the fuel to drain back downhill from the carbs
into the gas tank, but that is why they sell fuel pumps. Had the flight
lasted
30 minutes longer, the outcome probably would have been a media event.
The partially disassembled one is the one that stuck, I was trying to see if
the
ball check valve can be removed. Not readily. The other one is original.
--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not
seen.
Hebrews 11:1
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| Subject: | Re: Thom, Chris or Jabiru owners |
| From: | "Frankd" <FDucker(at)aol.com> |
Hi guys,
Been reading the posts and working on my cooling at the same time.
Over the past few months I've been struggling to get my CHT's below 360Deg. and
EGT's below 1400.. Way too lean.
I saw the post about the static port for the tube into the carb and did that after
I spoke to Jim at Jabiru Pacific. when the tube was inserted into the air
filter it apparently caused a negative pressure drop that kept the mixture lean..
Ok, fixed that.
I've changed my main jet to 240 and needle jet to 2.85..
I put the baffle's on the front of the airscoops.
I use the EIS that has 4 CHT's and EGT's .
Today I flew and got 340deg in climb with 1350EGT's max.
In cruise the rear left cylinder was hottest at 335Deg and EGT's were just under
1300.
I'm getting there!
I've included pics of the static port to the carb and also my current wing and
tail angles .
Finally getting to just fly the plane and not mess with it.
If you guys have any other ideas, I'd love to know what works well.
Tom, you said you use 250 main and 2.90 jet? Maybe I can go somewhat richer.
Thanks
FrankD
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| From: | Thom Riddle <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Thom, Chris or Jabiru owners |
FrankD,
I know you said that Jabiru Pacific said to do the "static port" the way you
show in your photo but ALL the Jabiru's I've ever seen or heard about have
the float bowl vent (not static) connected to the inside of the air cleaner
by way of a the end of the conical air filter. In other words, the tube from
the float bowl vent goes into the end of the air cleaner so that the float
bowl has the same air pressure as the inlet side of the carb. Not sure why
Jabiru Pacific recommended you do it that way. I didn't hear anything about
doing it that way from Pete Krotje two weeks ago in his seminar. Maybe that
is an accepted alternate way of doing. Beats me.
When I replaced the Bing jet needle with the Jabiru jet needle I changed the
needle jet (cruise jet) to 280 and the main jet to the closest to
recommended(220 to 250) by Jabiru that I had on hand, #255. Configured like
this, at low altitude, my cruise EGT is right on the target 1325F. It gets
richer as I climb to higher altitudes. Only during my first flight after
this change did I still get a hotter than desired EGT during WOT climb at
Vy. On subsequent flights, inexplicably, the WOT at Vy EGT was colder than
target, so I might go to a bit lower number main jet, maybe.
Thom
On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Frankd wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
>
> Been reading the posts and working on my cooling at the same time.
>
> Over the past few months I've been struggling to get my CHT's below 360Deg.
> and EGT's below 1400.. Way too lean.
>
> I saw the post about the static port for the tube into the carb and did
> that after I spoke to Jim at Jabiru Pacific. when the tube was inserted
> into the air filter it apparently caused a negative pressure drop that kept
> the mixture lean.. Ok, fixed that.
>
> I've changed my main jet to 240 and needle jet to 2.85..
>
> I put the baffle's on the front of the airscoops.
>
> I use the EIS that has 4 CHT's and EGT's .
>
> Today I flew and got 340deg in climb with 1350EGT's max.
> In cruise the rear left cylinder was hottest at 335Deg and EGT's were just
> under 1300.
>
> I'm getting there!
> I've included pics of the static port to the carb and also my current wing
> and tail angles .
>
> Finally getting to just fly the plane and not mess with it.
>
> If you guys have any other ideas, I'd love to know what works well.
>
> Tom, you said you use 250 main and 2.90 jet? Maybe I can go somewhat
> richer.
>
> Thanks
> FrankD
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353721#353721
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/wing_lift_106.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/tail_alignment_258.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/baffle_right_113.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/baffle_left_150.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/static_port_to_carb_991.jpg
>
>
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| From: | Thom Riddle <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Thom, Chris or Jabiru owners |
FrankD,
Forgot to mention in previous email. In these photos, it looks to me like
the deflectors at the top of the duct are vertical. This could be an optical
illusion since the photos is taken head on. In any case, they should be
angle back(at the bottom) roughly 45 degrees or so, not vertical and the one
over the front cylinder should be shorter than the one over the aft cylinder
to allow air flow to reach the aft cylinder deflector. These are just
general recommendations so if your CHTs are in line the way you have them,
then great! As I stated before, my CHTs typically run 270-290F in cruise.
You may or may not get them that low. As long as they stay in the green,
that is good.
Thom
On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Thom Riddle wrote:
> FrankD,
> I know you said that Jabiru Pacific said to do the "static port" the way
> you show in your photo but ALL the Jabiru's I've ever seen or heard about
> have the float bowl vent (not static) connected to the inside of the air
> cleaner by way of a the end of the conical air filter. In other words, the
> tube from the float bowl vent goes into the end of the air cleaner so that
> the float bowl has the same air pressure as the inlet side of the carb. Not
> sure why Jabiru Pacific recommended you do it that way. I didn't hear
> anything about doing it that way from Pete Krotje two weeks ago in his
> seminar. Maybe that is an accepted alternate way of doing. Beats me.
>
> When I replaced the Bing jet needle with the Jabiru jet needle I changed
> the needle jet (cruise jet) to 280 and the main jet to the closest to
> recommended(220 to 250) by Jabiru that I had on hand, #255. Configured like
> this, at low altitude, my cruise EGT is right on the target 1325F. It gets
> richer as I climb to higher altitudes. Only during my first flight after
> this change did I still get a hotter than desired EGT during WOT climb at
> Vy. On subsequent flights, inexplicably, the WOT at Vy EGT was colder than
> target, so I might go to a bit lower number main jet, maybe.
>
> Thom
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Frankd wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> Been reading the posts and working on my cooling at the same time.
>>
>> Over the past few months I've been struggling to get my CHT's below
>> 360Deg. and EGT's below 1400.. Way too lean.
>>
>> I saw the post about the static port for the tube into the carb and did
>> that after I spoke to Jim at Jabiru Pacific. when the tube was inserted
>> into the air filter it apparently caused a negative pressure drop that kept
>> the mixture lean.. Ok, fixed that.
>>
>> I've changed my main jet to 240 and needle jet to 2.85..
>>
>> I put the baffle's on the front of the airscoops.
>>
>> I use the EIS that has 4 CHT's and EGT's .
>>
>> Today I flew and got 340deg in climb with 1350EGT's max.
>> In cruise the rear left cylinder was hottest at 335Deg and EGT's were
>> just under 1300.
>>
>> I'm getting there!
>> I've included pics of the static port to the carb and also my current
>> wing and tail angles .
>>
>> Finally getting to just fly the plane and not mess with it.
>>
>> If you guys have any other ideas, I'd love to know what works well.
>>
>> Tom, you said you use 250 main and 2.90 jet? Maybe I can go somewhat
>> richer.
>>
>> Thanks
>> FrankD
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353721#353721
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Attachments:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/wing_lift_106.jpg
>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/tail_alignment_258.jpg
>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/baffle_right_113.jpg
>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/baffle_left_150.jpg
>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/static_port_to_carb_991.jpg
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Any Kolbs in the Arkansas/ So. Missouri |
| From: | "Ozarkflyer" <lragan(at)hotmail.com> |
John
I've been keeping an eye on your planned event and if doable plan on trying to
make it down there. I was fortunate enough to run into Dennis Long and Larry
Duncan with their Mk III's today at a small fly-in less than thirty miles from
home. First Kolb's I've seen around here since John Hauck stopped for fuel on
one of his cross-country trips.
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| Subject: | Re: Thom, Chris or Jabiru owners |
| From: | "Frankd" <FDucker(at)aol.com> |
Hi Thom,
thanks for the feedback.
The top deflectors are about 60Deg angled back.. Since the back cylinder was
the hottest, i took the front deflector off today , to try to balance out the
temp difference.
I would love to be under 300 Deg CHT in cruise, thats my goal.
So I think I'm going to try slightly bigger jets and continue to work the baffles.
If I can get the radio noise down and a real Trim tab for the elevator, that would
be the best of all worlds.
Fun, Fun..
thanks for all feedback, if anyone else has the jabiru magic set-up, I'd love
to hear about it.
Rgds
Frankd
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| From: | Thom Riddle <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Thom, Chris or Jabiru owners |
FrankD,
Did you get the Jabiru needle installed yet? I was unsuccessful with the
EGTs until I replaced the needle.
You mentioned elevator trim. My SS has a very good one installed by the
builder. Attached is a photo. If I needed one now though, I would probably
just rig an adjustable bungee in the cockpit. Simple, cheap and works as
well as an electric tab with no extra weight on the tail or complexity of
wiring. That said, it turns out my SS hardly needs one solo, which is the
only way I fly it. My trim setting at cruise is the same as required on
final approach with flaps. Only in between those two extremes is it slightly
out of trim and not worth bothering with.
I was also fortunate regarding radio noise. The builder of my SS is an
electrician by trade and he did all the right things with wire routing,
grounding, shielding, etc. My handheld iCom A6 with ship's power and
airframe mounted antenna has no ignition or other noise whatsoever.... other
than the engine/prop, of course.
Thom
On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 11:58 PM, Frankd wrote:
>
> Hi Thom,
> thanks for the feedback.
>
> The top deflectors are about 60Deg angled back.. Since the back cylinder
> was the hottest, i took the front deflector off today , to try to balance
> out the temp difference.
>
> I would love to be under 300 Deg CHT in cruise, thats my goal.
> So I think I'm going to try slightly bigger jets and continue to work the
> baffles.
>
> If I can get the radio noise down and a real Trim tab for the elevator,
> that would be the best of all worlds.
>
> Fun, Fun..
> thanks for all feedback, if anyone else has the jabiru magic set-up, I'd
> love to hear about it.
>
> Rgds
> Frankd
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353748#353748
>
>
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| From: | frank goodnight <frank.goodnight(at)att.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Any Kolbs in the Arkansas/ So. Missouri |
Frank Goodnight-lives in Fayetteville , Ar Flys a firestar 2 a couple tim
es a =0Aweek.=0AWould be happy to talk with you.=0A=0AFrank=0AFirestar 2 HK
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| From: | David Kulp <undoctor(at)ptd.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Kolbs in Florida |
Ron,
FWIW, my son, same name, is a Construction Super for KB Home at Lake
Elsie Reserve, just around the corner from Tavares, FL, the sea plane
city. Slap a set of floats on your ride, fly a great plane by Homer and
live in a custom built home by one of Homer's relatives. (BTW, KB
Home Orlando Div. came in #1 in the nation for Customer Satisfaction)
May be a possibility you want to check out.
Good luck wherever you land! Major planning such as this can be a very
exuberant slice of life.
Dave Kulp
Bethlehem, PA
FireFly 11DMK
On 9/27/2011 11:31 PM, Ron @ KFHU wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ron @ KFHU"
>
> Dave
> I checked Pompano twice already this past year. I thought that it was an ideal
place. When I found out they want 700 per month I had to turn it down. But by
far it's the most ideal location for me. Nice and cozy and nearby to the major
hubs. The cost though chased me away. From what I gather some outfit from up
north bought the hanger rights to it, and executive and jacked up the prices
from still expensive 500 per month. I think they want about 100 per month for
outside parking. It may be a real-estate play, chase the airplanes out and build
condos.
>
> I will look up the Kolbers when I settled down a bit. I have an extra mode C
transponder so I can fly in any of the airspace down there with the Kolb.
>
>
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| From: | David Kulp <undoctor(at)ptd.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Kolbs in Florida |
Whoops! That'd be #1 in Customer Satisfaction according to J D Powers.
If you might lean in that direction you may also want to go to
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/mostadmired/2011/index.html
Click on the Industries tab, select Homebuilders and see KB Home is #1
there, too.
dK
On 10/2/2011 10:27 PM, David Kulp wrote:
> Ron,
>
> FWIW, my son, same name, is a Construction Super for KB Home at Lake
> Elsie Reserve, just around the corner from Tavares, FL, the sea plane
> city. Slap a set of floats on your ride, fly a great plane by Homer
> and live in a custom built home by one of Homer's relatives. (BTW,
> KB Home Orlando Div. came in #1 in the nation for Customer
> Satisfaction) May be a possibility you want to check out.
>
> Good luck wherever you land! Major planning such as this can be a
> very exuberant slice of life.
>
> Dave Kulp
> Bethlehem, PA
> FireFly 11DMK
>
> On 9/27/2011 11:31 PM, Ron @ KFHU wrote:
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ron @ KFHU"
>>
>> Dave
>> I checked Pompano twice already this past year. I thought that it was
>> an ideal place. When I found out they want 700 per month I had to
>> turn it down. But by far it's the most ideal location for me. Nice
>> and cozy and nearby to the major hubs. The cost though chased me
>> away. From what I gather some outfit from up north bought the hanger
>> rights to it, and executive and jacked up the prices from still
>> expensive 500 per month. I think they want about 100 per month for
>> outside parking. It may be a real-estate play, chase the airplanes
>> out and build condos.
>>
>> I will look up the Kolbers when I settled down a bit. I have an extra
>> mode C transponder so I can fly in any of the airspace down there
>> with the Kolb.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Fall Harvest.... or |
| From: | "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com> |
Better know as: The removal or lowering of existing obstacles to safety.
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the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
These flying machines are just a fad and will never catch on Unknown
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| Subject: | Re: Reklaw Fly-in anyone? |
| From: | "stogie6" <djones(at)fisherarnold.com> |
I read today that the Reklaw fly-in will be canceled due to the fire potential
in the NE Texas area. Sorry fellas.
--------
David F. Jones
Kolb KXP
N71RB
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| From: | McCarthy Tom <mccarthy(at)jefnet.com> |
| Subject: | Anyone check for carbon monoxide? |
I put my back windows on the Slingshot last week, and soon after thought I could
smell something while flying. I have a battery powered carbon monoxide detector
in my Zenith, so I took it flying and was surprised to find a low level that
was constant inside. I thought it was the breather from the oil container
(HKS), so I rerouted it out through the bottom of the boom tube, but did not
get better. My exhaust runs down along the back of the fuselage and exits on an
angle just above the boom tube. I wonder if a vacuum is occurring and somehow
pulling exhaust forward?
How many people have checked for carbon monoxide? It sure is not something I thought
to be concerned with having a pusher behind me. Any thoughts would be
appreciated.
Tom McCarthy
Zenith 601HD
Kolb Slingshot
Kolb Firestar
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| From: | McCarthy Tom <mccarthy(at)jefnet.com> |
I went on the new Kolb website the other day and found me and my plane
on the home page, and again in the Slingshot section. Pictures were
taken from Oshkosh a few months back, not sun and fun as listed. I'm
happy they thought my plane was worthy. I have been flying it quite a
bit since the HKS install. It sure is good on fuel, especially for the
performance it gives.
Tom McCarthy
Zenith 601HD
Kolb Slingshot
Kolb Firestar
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| Subject: | Re: Anyone check for carbon monoxide? |
| From: | Ellery Batchelder Jr <elleryweld(at)aol.com> |
every Kolb I have flown always had a draft coming in through the boom tube
you could be getting exhaust through it but you
can slow it down by placing a big piece of foam rubber inside the tube near
the tail end
Ellery Batchelder Jr.
-----Original Message-----
From: McCarthy Tom <mccarthy(at)jefnet.com>
Sent: Tue, Oct 4, 2011 5:01 pm
Subject: Kolb-List: Anyone check for carbon monoxide?
I put my back windows on the Slingshot last week, and soon after thought I
could
mell something while flying. I have a battery powered carbon monoxide dete
ctor
n my Zenith, so I took it flying and was surprised to find a low level that
was
onstant inside. I thought it was the breather from the oil container (HKS)
, so
rerouted it out through the bottom of the boom tube, but did not get bette
r.
y exhaust runs down along the back of the fuselage and exits on an angle ju
st
bove the boom tube. I wonder if a vacuum is occurring and somehow pulling
xhaust forward?
ow many people have checked for carbon monoxide? It sure is not something
I
hought to be concerned with having a pusher behind me. Any thoughts would
be
ppreciated.
Tom McCarthy
enith 601HD
olb Slingshot
olb Firestar
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| From: | Thom Riddle <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Anyone check for carbon monoxide? |
Tom,
My engine and exhaust are different than yours. I've never checked the CO
in my Slingshot but ALWAYS fly with the vents in the aft windows open in
such a way that air is sucked out through those vents, to avoid any possible
CO accumulation. In warm weather, I also pressurize the cabin by opening the
forward vents such that they grab the airflow directing it toward me, plus
adding positive pressure to the cabin.
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 4:58 PM, McCarthy Tom wrote:
>
> I put my back windows on the Slingshot last week, and soon after thought I
> could smell something while flying. I have a battery powered carbon
> monoxide detector in my Zenith, so I took it flying and was surprised to
> find a low level that was constant inside. I thought it was the breather
> from the oil container (HKS), so I rerouted it out through the bottom of the
> boom tube, but did not get better. My exhaust runs down along the back of
> the fuselage and exits on an angle just above the boom tube. I wonder if a
> vacuum is occurring and somehow pulling exhaust forward?
> How many people have checked for carbon monoxide? It sure is not something
> I thought to be concerned with having a pusher behind me. Any thoughts
> would be appreciated.
>
> Tom McCarthy
> Zenith 601HD
> Kolb Slingshot
> Kolb Firestar
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: A Visionary with a Far Reaching Mind |
| From: | "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com> |
.............................Going Green.......................
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/technology-blog/electric-airplane-wins-big-money-224503447.html
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/technology-blog/electric-airplane-wins-big-money-224503447.html
http://www.wired.com/autopia/2011/10/electric-airplane-wins-1-35-million-prize-from-nasa/
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the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
These flying machines are just a fad and will never catch on Unknown
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| Subject: | Re: Anyone check for carbon monoxide? |
| From: | Gary Aman <zeprep251(at)aol.com> |
The air comes up the tube like you have a leaf blower back there.I have a
6" thick foam plug in my boom tube.That handles it.
G.Aman Mk3c jabiru
-----Original Message-----
From: McCarthy Tom <mccarthy(at)jefnet.com>
Sent: Tue, Oct 4, 2011 5:01 pm
Subject: Kolb-List: Anyone check for carbon monoxide?
I put my back windows on the Slingshot last week, and soon after thought I
could
smell something while flying. I have a battery powered carbon monoxide det
ector
in my Zenith, so I took it flying and was surprised to find a low level tha
t was
constant inside. I thought it was the breather from the oil container (HKS
), so
I rerouted it out through the bottom of the boom tube, but did not get bett
er.
My exhaust runs down along the back of the fuselage and exits on an angle j
ust
above the boom tube. I wonder if a vacuum is occurring and somehow pulling
exhaust forward?
How many people have checked for carbon monoxide? It sure is not something
I
thought to be concerned with having a pusher behind me. Any thoughts would
be
appreciated.
Tom McCarthy
Zenith 601HD
Kolb Slingshot
Kolb Firestar
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| Subject: | Breeze up the boom tube |
| From: | Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com> |
Some time back I did an experiment to find the answer to the question of
just how much air is flowing back up the boom tube of my Mk III. The post
that describes what I did is in the archives, but as a rule of thumb you can
figure that whatever your airspeed the air coming back up the boom tube is
half that. For example, at an indicated airspeed of 80 mph the draft coming
up the boom into the cockpit was 40 mph IAS.
Rick Girard
--
Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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| From: | "b young" <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Breeze up the boom tube |
Some time back I did an experiment to find the answer to the question of
just how much air is flowing back up the boom tube of my Mk III. The
post that describes what I did is in the archives, but as a rule of
thumb you can figure that whatever your airspeed the air coming back up
the boom tube is half that. For example, at an indicated airspeed of 80
mph the draft coming up the boom into the cockpit was 40 mph IAS.
Rick Girard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
when I built the mkiii. I heat formed a piece of fabric to fit inside
the rear of the tube, just ahead of the elevator bell crank. then I
glued it in place with polly tack. I then cut small slits in it for the
elevator and rudder cables. I think if I was doing it again. I would
take one inch of the 6 inch tube, split it to fit it inside the main
tube. then glue the fabric to the outside of the 1 inch piece , then
slid it in the tail boom tube. that way it would have been removable
if the need presented itself. that stops the wind movement, I don't
know if it would stop critters or not. I suppose you could do it with
some screen wire, then cover that with the fabric, the fabric would
create an anti chafe buffer to the screen wire and the boom tube,
Boyd young
mkiii utah
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| From: | Thom Riddle <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Breeze up the boom tube |
Rick,
That is an interesting observation. I have never noticed any reverse airflow
up my Slingshot's tail but that does not mean it isn't there. IF that
phenomenon is not characteristic of the SS but is for most Kolbs I speculate
that it might be caused, or at least influenced by the relative positions of
the horizontal stabilizer and boom tube. On most Kolbs the leading edge of
the HS is well above the centerline of the boom tube, whereas on the SS it
is even with (parallel) with the boom tube. There could be other factors
too. I am not even sure what would be an easy way to detect/measure this
reverse airflow up my SS tail. If it is dramatic as you say on my SS, I
would think it would be obvious to me, but it is not at all. How did you
determine the speed of roughly half of forward speed? Is it something I
could easily replicate on my SS?
Thom
On Oct 5, 2011, at 4:42 PM, Richard Girard wrote:
Some time back I did an experiment to find the answer to the question of
just how much air is flowing back up the boom tube of my Mk III. The post
that describes what I did is in the archives, but as a rule of thumb you can
figure that whatever your airspeed the air coming back up the boom tube is
half that. For example, at an indicated airspeed of 80 mph the draft coming
up the boom into the cockpit was 40 mph IAS.
Rick Girard
--
Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
*
*
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| From: | robert bean <slyck(at)frontiernet.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Anyone check for carbon monoxide? |
The configuration of your cabin has something to do with it. The
shuttlecock shape (birdie in polite society) creates
all kinds of strange airflows. In my case I was smelling oil sump fumes
which I 95% eliminated by routing a vent line to just behind
and higher than the prop flange. Those fumes get very well distributed.
BB
MkIII, suzuki
On 5, Oct 2011, at 3:46 PM, Gary Aman wrote:
> The air comes up the tube like you have a leaf blower back there.I
have a 6" thick foam plug in my boom tube.That handles it.
> G.Aman Mk3c jabiru
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: McCarthy Tom <mccarthy(at)jefnet.com>
> To: kolb-list
> Sent: Tue, Oct 4, 2011 5:01 pm
> Subject: Kolb-List: Anyone check for carbon monoxide?
>
>
> I put my back windows on the Slingshot last week, and soon after
thought I could
> smell something while flying. I have a battery powered carbon
monoxide detector
> in my Zenith, so I took it flying and was surprised to find a low
level that was
> constant inside. I thought it was the breather from the oil container
(HKS), so
> I rerouted it out through the bottom of the boom tube, but did not get
better.
> My exhaust runs down along the back of the fuselage and exits on an
angle just
> above the boom tube. I wonder if a vacuum is occurring and somehow
pulling
> exhaust forward?
> How many people have checked for carbon monoxide? It sure is not
something I
> thought to be concerned with having a pusher behind me. Any thoughts
would be
> appreciated.
>
> Tom McCarthy
> Zenith 601HD
> Kolb Slingshot
> Kolb Firestar
>
> get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List
> tp://forums.matronics.com
> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| From: | "b young" <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Breeze up the boom tube |
Rick,
That is an interesting observation. I have never noticed any reverse
airflow up my Slingshot's tail but that does not mean it isn't there. IF
that phenomenon is not characteristic of the SS but is for most Kolbs I
speculate that it might be caused, or at least influenced by the
relative positions of the horizontal stabilizer and boom tube. On most
Kolbs the leading edge of the HS is well above the centerline of the
boom tube, whereas on the SS it is even with (parallel) with the boom
tube. There could be other factors too. I am not even sure what would be
an easy way to detect/measure this reverse airflow up my SS tail. If it
is dramatic as you say on my SS, I would think it would be obvious to
me, but it is not at all. How did you determine the speed of roughly
half of forward speed? Is it something I could easily replicate on my
SS?
Thom
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
i think the direction of wind flow in the boom tube has more to do with
the configuration of the cabin area, and whether it has a high or low
pressure, this would be determined mostly by how the rear of the cabin
is closed in. or lack their of. all things being equal. the air going
past the back of the boom tube should pull a negative pressure on the
rear of the tube. but if there is a larger negative pressure caused
by the cabin enclosure, then the flow would be forward.
boyd young
mkiii ut
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| From: | "FIRESTARII" <CCMFarms(at)aol.com> |
:D [Shocked] WOW Guys and Gals! When I purchased my FSII it came with two sets
of wing struts, one with fairings and one without. The struts with the fairings
were off a FS that went into the intra coastal water ways, thus salt water.
I was very leery of that so I was not comfortable using them so I have
been flying with the non-faired struts. I was however curious as to what impact
they would actually have. So I removed the fairings from the struts and installed
them on the ones I have been flying with. I just landed after an hour
and a half flight with them installed and WOW is all I can say! Very much to
my surprise they made an ENORMOUS difference! The airplane was way smoother
cruised a good 10 MPH indicated better. The biggest surprise was in glide, best
glide, best as I can figure based purely on feel is about 45-48 indicated.
The difference was astonishing, at lest to me! In a totally non scientific,
seat of the pants, guess, I bet it was 30% farther. Now mind you I am guessing
here but to not only see, but feel a difference so significant just amazed
me. I'll never fly with out them again! Cruise speed to jumped a good 10MPH
at 5500 and the airplane just "Felt" smoother to me. WOW! Any way I just thought
I would let every body know what a difference it made on my airplane and
highly recommend them to any one not currently using them! Let me know if you
guys have seen such a difference and what else you can recommend to further
improve my FSII. Fly safe and have fun every body!
--------
Low and Slow FireStar II
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| Subject: | Re: Breeze up the boom tube |
| From: | "SS568" <david(at)PaulowniaTrees.com> |
Interesting about the tail draft. I have been trying to figure why my air speed
reads about half.
Could this tube draft be causing my air speed to be off?
David d.
--------
Kolb Mark IIIX 582 Blue head
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| From: | Thom Riddle <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Breeze up the boom tube |
Boyd,
You are probably correct. Although I've flown a MkIII several times I've
never owned one or flown one enough to get to the point that I notice that
sort of thing. All my KOLB ownership experience is in Firestars and the
Slingshot, both narrow bodied which have not shown the sucking tail
syndrome, at least to a degree sufficient to get my attention.
Thom
On Oct 5, 2011, at 7:02 PM, "b young" wrote:
Rick,
That is an interesting observation. I have never noticed any reverse airflow
up my Slingshot's tail but that does not mean it isn't there. IF that
phenomenon is not characteristic of the SS but is for most Kolbs I speculate
that it might be caused, or at least influenced by the relative positions of
the horizontal stabilizer and boom tube. On most Kolbs the leading edge of
the HS is well above the centerline of the boom tube, whereas on the SS it
is even with (parallel) with the boom tube. There could be other factors
too. I am not even sure what would be an easy way to detect/measure this
reverse airflow up my SS tail. If it is dramatic as you say on my SS, I
would think it would be obvious to me, but it is not at all. How did you
determine the speed of roughly half of forward speed? Is it something I
could easily replicate on my SS?
Thom
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
i think the direction of wind flow in the boom tube has more to do with the
configuration of the cabin area, and whether it has a high or low pressure,
this would be determined mostly by how the rear of the cabin is closed in.
or lack their of. all things being equal. the air going past the back of
the boom tube should pull a negative pressure on the rear of the tube.
but if there is a larger negative pressure caused by the cabin enclosure,
then the flow would be forward.
boyd young
mkiii ut
*
*
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| Subject: | EIS and In Flight Adjustable IVO prop Wanted! |
| From: | "FIRESTARII" <CCMFarms(at)aol.com> |
:D Hi guys and gals, sorry I forgot to post in this in the "Strut" post. I am
looking for a good used EIS for my 503DCDI. Remember I am a professional pilot
so I have limited funds and even at 3 gallons an hour the fuel is killing me.
Also a while ago I made a post about a variable pitch set up for my IVO three
blade prop and some body replied that they have a used one for sale. I have
not been able to reach that person so if he, and or anybody with that set up
could get ahold of me I would be very grateful. Happy flying enjoy and be safe!
--------
Low and Slow FireStar II
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
Let me know if you guys have seen such a difference and what else you can
recommend to further improve my FSII. Fly safe and have fun every body!
--------
Low and Slow FireStar II
Folks:
I was also surprised after Brother Jim fabricated me a pair of lift struts
from 4130 streamlined tubing. Improvements were amazing. Most notable was
elimination of lift strut vibration in flight.
This was 1987 and my Firestar which had no brakes. Flying off my 650 foot
grass strip, at that time, I had trouble getting the Firestar slowed down
before I ran out of airstrip. The improved lift struts necessitated brakes.
I had flown the Firestar a couple years without brakes, making flights to
Miami, FL, and The Flight Farm near Monterey, NY.
The Firestar was much cleaner with improved glide.
john h
mkIII
7 miles south of Burns Junction, Oregon.
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| Subject: | New Firefly owner looking for Mark III training in PA |
| From: | "mburdge39" <mburdge(at)windstream.net> |
Hello! I am picking up a firefly this weekend and was hoping somebody could help
me find an instructor with a Mark III. I live in n.w. PA. Any help would be
appreciated!
Mike
--------
Mike
Firefly
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| Subject: | Re: Strut Fairings |
| From: | "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com> |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftq8jTQ8ANE
--------
Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents
the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
These flying machines are just a fad and will never catch on Unknown
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| From: | Herb Gayheart <herbgh(at)nctc.com> |
| Subject: | Re: EIS and In Flight Adjustable IVO prop Wanted! |
I have a three blade in air adjustable IVO for sale...Half
retail...fits 503 and 582.. Herb
At 07:05 PM 10/5/2011, you wrote:
>
>:D Hi guys and gals, sorry I forgot to post in this in the "Strut"
>post. I am looking for a good used EIS for my 503DCDI. Remember I
>am a professional pilot so I have limited funds and even at 3
>gallons an hour the fuel is killing me. Also a while ago I made a
>post about a variable pitch set up for my IVO three blade prop and
>some body replied that they have a used one for sale. I have not
>been able to reach that person so if he, and or anybody with that
>set up could get ahold of me I would be very grateful. Happy flying
>enjoy and be safe!
>
>--------
>Low and Slow FireStar II
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=354137#354137
>
>
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| From: | David Kulp <undoctor(at)ptd.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Strut Fairings |
Dennis,
The vid may be old, but it sure tells the story! Thanks for posting it.
And to Henry, the fellow from HI who sent the gorgeous photo and was
interested in converting from two struts to one on his FF, I measured
the dimensions of the struts that were installed on mine and they are
about 1" at the thickest point (although without a micrometer it's just
a bit difficult to be 100% accurate with the attaching mechanism on the
end interfering with the tape) and they're 2 3/8" front to rear.
Hope that helps.
Dave Kulp
Bethlehem, PA
FireFly 11DMK
On 10/5/2011 8:39 PM, Dennis Thate wrote:
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| Subject: | Re: Breeze up the boom tube |
| From: | Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com> |
I have a Winter ASI for which I made a pitot probe with about 3' of vinyl
tube and 2' of aluminum tube. I took it out in my wife's car and stuck it
out through the sunroof to calibrate it. Then I positioned it with the probe
going back up the boom and went flying. I have lot's of cockpit vents in my
Mk III, deliberate and not so and there's no seal at the top of the
windscreen. The result is that there's a lot of airflow to create a negative
pressure differential in the cabin to suck air in from the boom. That's my
theory, anyway.
Rick
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Thom Riddle wrote:
> Rick,
>
> That is an interesting observation. I have never noticed any reverse
> airflow up my Slingshot's tail but that does not mean it isn't there. IF
> that phenomenon is not characteristic of the SS but is for most Kolbs I
> speculate that it might be caused, or at least influenced by the relative
> positions of the horizontal stabilizer and boom tube. On most Kolbs the
> leading edge of the HS is well above the centerline of the boom tube,
> whereas on the SS it is even with (parallel) with the boom tube. There could
> be other factors too. I am not even sure what would be an easy way to
> detect/measure this reverse airflow up my SS tail. If it is dramatic as you
> say on my SS, I would think it would be obvious to me, but it is not at all.
> How did you determine the speed of roughly half of forward speed? Is it
> something I could easily replicate on my SS?
>
> Thom
>
> On Oct 5, 2011, at 4:42 PM, Richard Girard wrote:
>
> Some time back I did an experiment to find the answer to the question of
> just how much air is flowing back up the boom tube of my Mk III. The post
> that describes what I did is in the archives, but as a rule of thumb you can
> figure that whatever your airspeed the air coming back up the boom tube is
> half that. For example, at an indicated airspeed of 80 mph the draft coming
> up the boom into the cockpit was 40 mph IAS.
>
> Rick Girard
>
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Thanks, Homer GBYM
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| Subject: | Re: Breeze up the boom tube |
| From: | Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com> |
Yes, if you have no static source hooked up to your ASI (and assuming you
need one, my little Winter that I used for testing doesn't have a static
port).
Rick Girard
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 6:53 PM, SS568 wrote:
>
> Interesting about the tail draft. I have been trying to figure why my air
> speed reads about half.
> Could this tube draft be causing my air speed to be off?
> David d.
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Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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| Subject: | Re: Strut Fairings |
| From: | Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com> |
FirestarII, Take a look at the video here and you can see how the vortex
street behind a round tube grows.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%A1rm%C3%A1n_vortex_street
Rick Girard
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 6:51 PM, FIRESTARII wrote:
>
> :D [Shocked] WOW Guys and Gals! When I purchased my FSII it came with
> two sets of wing struts, one with fairings and one without. The struts
> with the fairings were off a FS that went into the intra coastal water ways,
> thus salt water. I was very leery of that so I was not comfortable using
> them so I have been flying with the non-faired struts. I was however
> curious as to what impact they would actually have. So I removed the
> fairings from the struts and installed them on the ones I have been flying
> with. I just landed after an hour and a half flight with them installed and
> WOW is all I can say! Very much to my surprise they made an ENORMOUS
> difference! The airplane was way smoother cruised a good 10 MPH indicated
> better. The biggest surprise was in glide, best glide, best as I can
> figure based purely on feel is about 45-48 indicated. The difference was
> astonishing, at lest to me! In a totally non scientific, seat of the pants,
> guess, I bet it was 30% farther.!
> Now mind you I am guessing here but to not only see, but feel a
> difference so significant just amazed me. I'll never fly with out them
> again! Cruise speed to jumped a good 10MPH at 5500 and the airplane just
> "Felt" smoother to me. WOW! Any way I just thought I would let every body
> know what a difference it made on my airplane and highly recommend them to
> any one not currently using them! Let me know if you guys have seen such a
> difference and what else you can recommend to further improve my FSII. Fly
> safe and have fun every body!
>
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Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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| Subject: | Re: Breeze up the boom tube |
| From: | "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
No hard data, but in the winter the cold air coming out the boom tube opening was
freezing me. I cut a round piece of foam with slots for the cables and stuck
it in the tube at the front end and it improved things immeasurably.
For what it's worth...
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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Hebrews 11:1
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| Subject: | Re: Strut Fairings |
| From: | "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
Get yourself some of the plastic streamline fairing material that is intended to
fit over the lift struts and cut it to fit the landing ear legs. You will be
pleasantly surprised. It is worth the trouble.
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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
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| From: | "johngilpin" <j.gilpin(at)bigpond.com> |
Gday again,
The response from this posting has been really good, with several excellent direct
emails and new friendships developed.
A couple of those easily convinced me that it would be preferable to run a 912
over the country that I wish to fly. So I went in that direction, and found where
I could get Sport Pilot training in my own aircraft at really reasonable
cost. But then today I thought I'd better check on aircraft registration, and
got a shock when it seems that only American citizens can register an aircraft
there!
http://www.faa-aircraft-certification.com/aircraft-registration.html
Do I have that correct, or am I missing something here??
I hope someone can tell me I've got that wrong........
Maybe I'll have to go under the radar in a 103 FireFly after all. Which actually
has an appeal of it's own - real freedom from bureaucrats. Some of that wild
country that I want to see would feel better with a 912, but then I did fly
1000hrs with a 447 that never let me down...
Tailwinds Always,
JG
[quote="johngilpin"]Gday All,
I went to Oshkosh this year, and the highlight for me was a neat FireFly in the
Red Barn area. I fell in love at first and second and further visits. Couldn't
ever connect with the owner...
To introduce myself, I live in Australia, and do a lot of x-country touring by
air, in a two-place Savannah with a 100hp 912S these days, but earlier in a single-seat
Spectrum Beaver with 447, 1000hrs in each of them. But I'm getting a
bit tired of living under the wing in a pup tent. That's all fine when I'm moving
every day and the weather is good, but hunkered down in a little tent for
several days when bad weather sets in gets trying. And the fact that airfields
are mostly a couple of miles or more from town, has me wishing for real wheels,
even tho I can now carry a bicycle in the Savannah. So the dream now is a
folding ultralight that I can tow behind an RV, and fly locally to see the sights
when the weather is right, and have wheels and a comfortable camp the rest
of the time. So of course the FireFly fits into this dream exactly! The dream
has now extended to touring the USA the same way - find a FireFly with trailer
and an RV, and go wherever..... I have friends in Texas, Mississippi, Minnesota,
Utah and Arizona, so could leave the rig between visits, and return whenever
the season and funds suit. It'll be a couple of years to be free of ties that
bind here, so not ready for Gene's aircraft yet, but some day would hope to
find another similar.....
My Australian ultralight license isn't recognized over there, so I can't go to
a FireStar in the Experimental category without a PPL. Even then, I think it would
be a lot less complicated to stay under the radar in 103 category?? Do you
have to be a US citizen or resident to fly 103?? I'd be hunting out quiet, little-used
airstrips away from 'heavy metal' and all the 'attitude'.
I notice that Gene removes the wings and secures them to the sides of the trailer.
Is this for reasons of keeping road rash from wearing at the structural mounts,
or for overall length, or whatever?? Seems that if you could leave the wings
on the FireFly and use a two-blade prop, you could make a trailer that would
be very slim and compact and easy to tow.....
I've been impressed by the performance of Kolbs ever since Sun'nFun 1990. But there
are very few Kolbs in Aus. A couple of Mark 3's, but that's about it. Our
local regulations for Amateur Built Category allow two seats and MTOW of 544kg
(1200lb) so that easily allows a FireStar here. I understand that a few two-seat
tandem FireStars were built, but can't find out more about them - any links
or info appreciated. Was the cockpit extended a bit?? Looks like that would
be easy enough, and I have the engineering experience to do that and to correct
W&B. Don't need dual controls, just enough room to load a pax for short flights,
sort of like a pillion on a motorcycle, put the pax out of the way where
they belong..... Photography is important to me so I want excellent visibility
both sides.
Are there any snags that I haven't considered that anyone can see in this dream??
How come more aren't using these aircraft that way, or don't we hear about it??
Any comments most welcome.
To come along on some of the trips I've done, have a look at the photos athttp://www.stolspeed.com/id/12 (http://www.stolspeed.com/id/12)
Cheers,
John Gilpin
> [b]
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| From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
At 05:21 AM 10/6/2011, johngilpin wrote:
> I thought I'd better check on aircraft registration, and got a shock
> when it seems that only American citizens can register an aircraft there!
>http://www.faa-aircraft-certification.com/aircraft-registration.html
>Do I have that correct, or am I missing something here??
>I hope someone can tell me I've got that wrong........
No, how did you conclude that? According to the FAA site you linked to, a
plane can be registered by a US citizen OR a resident alien OR a
corporation. So if you live in the US, you can register the plane here.
-Dana
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-GENERAL PROTECTION FAULT in BORG.EXE-"
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| From: | Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com> |
John, My friend Wayne is an Australian citizen who finished his LongEZ whil
e
he was at Boeing in Seattle as part of the Hawker engineering staff working
on a 737 derivative for the Australian military, i.e. he was a resident
alien with a green card (item 2 in the link you provided). He had no troubl
e
registering his aircraft so he could fly it while he was here, then he
deregistered it and took it home when his assignment at Boeing was finished
.
Rick Girard
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:21 AM, johngilpin wrote:
>
> Gday again,
>
> The response from this posting has been really good, with several excelle
nt
> direct emails and new friendships developed.
>
> A couple of those easily convinced me that it would be preferable to run
a
> 912 over the country that I wish to fly. So I went in that direction, an
d
> found where I could get Sport Pilot training in my own aircraft at really
> reasonable cost. But then today I thought I'd better check on aircraft
> registration, and got a shock when it seems that only American citizens c
an
> register an aircraft there!
> http://www.faa-aircraft-certification.com/aircraft-registration.html
> Do I have that correct, or am I missing something here??
> I hope someone can tell me I've got that wrong........
>
> Maybe I'll have to go under the radar in a 103 FireFly after all. Which
> actually has an appeal of it's own - real freedom from bureaucrats. Some
of
> that wild country that I want to see would feel better with a 912, but th
en
> I did fly 1000hrs with a 447 that never let me down...
>
> Tailwinds Always,
> JG
>
> [quote="johngilpin"]Gday All,
>
> I went to Oshkosh this year, and the highlight for me was a neat FireFly
in
> the Red Barn area. =EF=BDI fell in love at first and second and furthe
r visits.
> =EF=BDCouldn't ever connect with the owner...=EF=BD
> =EF=BD
> To introduce myself, I live in Australia, and do a lot of x-country touri
ng
> by air, in a two-place Savannah with a 100hp 912S these days, but earlier
in
> a single-seat Spectrum Beaver with 447, 1000hrs in each of them. =EF
=BDBut I'm
> getting a bit tired of living under the wing in a pup tent. =EF=BDThat
's all fine
> when I'm moving every day and the weather is good, but hunkered down in a
> little tent for several days when bad weather sets in gets trying. =EF
=BDAnd the
> fact that airfields are mostly a couple of miles or more from town, has m
e
> wishing for real wheels, even tho I can now carry a bicycle in the Savann
ah.
> =EF=BDSo the dream now is a folding ultralight that I can tow behind a
n RV, and
> fly locally to see the sights when the weather is right, and have wheels
and
> a comfortable camp the rest of the time. =EF=BDSo of course the FireFl
y fits into
> this dream exactly! =EF=BDThe dream has now extended to touring the US
A the same
> way - find a FireFly with trailer and an RV, and go wherever..... !
> =EF=BDI have friends in Texas, Mississippi, Minnesota, Utah and Arizo
na, so
> could leave the rig between visits, and return whenever the season and fu
nds
> suit. =EF=BDIt'll be a couple of years to be free of ties that bind he
re, so not
> ready for Gene's aircraft yet, but some day would hope to find another
> similar..... =EF=BD
>
>
> My Australian ultralight license isn't recognized over there, so I can't
go
> to a FireStar in the Experimental category without a PPL. =EF=BDEven t
hen, I
> think it would be a lot less complicated to stay under the radar in 103
> category?? =EF=BDDo you have to be a US citizen or resident to fly 103
?? =EF=BDI'd be
> hunting out quiet, little-used airstrips away from 'heavy metal' and all
the
> 'attitude'. =EF=BD=EF=BD
>
>
> I notice that Gene removes the wings and secures them to the sides of the
> trailer. =EF=BDIs this for reasons of keeping road rash from wearing a
t the
> structural mounts, or for overall length, or whatever?? =EF=BDSeems th
at if you
> could leave the wings on the FireFly and use a two-blade prop, you could
> make a trailer that would be very slim and compact and easy to tow.....
=EF=BD
>
>
> I've been impressed by the performance of Kolbs ever since Sun'nFun 1990.
> =EF=BDBut there are very few Kolbs in Aus. =EF=BDA couple of Mark 3
's, but that's
> about it. =EF=BDOur local regulations for Amateur Built Category allow
two seats
> and MTOW of 544kg (1200lb) so that easily allows a FireStar here. I
> understand that a few two-seat tandem FireStars were built, but can't fin
d
> out more about them - any links or info appreciated. =EF=BDWas the coc
kpit
> extended a bit?? =EF=BDLooks like that would be easy enough, and I hav
e the
> engineering experience to do that and to correct W&B. =EF=BDDon't need
dual
> controls, just enough room to load a pax for short flights, sort of like
a
> pillion on a motorcycle, put the pax out of the way where they belong....
.
> =EF=BDPhotography is important to me so I want excellent visibility bo
th sides.
>
>
> Are there any snags that I haven't considered that anyone can see in this
> dream??
> How come more aren't using these aircraft that way, or don't we hear abou
t
> it??
> Any comments most welcome.
>
>
> To come along on some of the trips I've done, have a look at the photos a
t=EF=BD
> http://www.stolspeed.com/id/12 (http://www.stolspeed.com/id/12)
>
>
> Cheers,
> John Gilpin
>
> > [b]
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=354169#354169
>
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Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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| From: | Ted <tc1917(at)bellsouth.net> |
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> From: "Ted Cowan" <tc1917(at)bellsouth.net>
> Date: October 6, 2011 6:05:23 AM CDT
> To: "Ted Cowan"
> Subject: Fw: fly in
>
>
>
>> Want to announce the Flying C's Planetation is having a good ole ultralig
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t me at: 1-334-480-0822.
>> Fly em, trailer em, or just drive in. All are welcome. Powered chutes, u
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for 50 knots. approx. 2000' long, 60 wide. 1600' nice and smooth and flat
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vailable. Ample camping and some RV space with hook up. Some beds but you h
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you there. A special RC helo demo. Ted and Beverly Cowan, Slingshot, 912U
L zoom zoom.
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| Subject: | Re: Breeze up the boom tube |
| From: | "SS568" <david(at)PaulowniaTrees.com> |
I found this site that has a simple way of testing the ASI.
http://www.n56ml.com/airspeed_calibration/
This is with plane in the hangar and the static air is very static. My instruments
have their static airs tied together and a plastic tube runs up to a disc
up near the pitot tube. What is the significance of this static air as opposed
to just using cabin air? Can that disc be defective or stopped up perhaps?
David d.
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| Subject: | Possible MkIII accident in Missouri |
| From: | Michael Welch <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com> |
Mornin' guys,
I just got a call from my wife on her way to work, where she said she just heard
on our local
radio station that a man crashed a Kolb MkIII near Versailles, MO, yesterday.
I did a quick search, and only found a brief confirmation of of the crash, in
an on-line write-up,
but not very detailed about why he crashed, or the extent of his injuries. It
appears as though he
WAS helicoptered to a local hospital.
The radio report mentioned he may have run out of gas (or at least the engine
died), and he made
an 'attempt' to make a quick 180, which didn't quite work out well, evidently.
Sad news, for sure, it looks like it may have been an incorrect decision to try
the 180 (Versailles
is mostly farm land). I'm sure more information will follow soon in an updated
news report.
Mike Welch
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The photos start near the Hart-Shelby Airport (C04) west over Crystal Lake
then Silver Lake, sand dunes, north along the Lake Michigan lake shore to
Pentwater then back to Silver lake and back to the airport.
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| Subject: | Re: Strut Fairings |
| From: | "FIRESTARII" <CCMFarms(at)aol.com> |
:D The gear legs are my very next step! Looking forward to seeing what a difference
that makes.
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Low and Slow FireStar II
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| Subject: | Re: Breeze up the boom tube |
| From: | "Ozarkflyer" <lragan(at)hotmail.com> |
"Breeze up the boom tube......sucking tail syndrome"? Sounds like a Monty Python
episode.
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| Subject: | Re: Strut Fairings |
| From: | "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com> |
Richard Pike wrote:
> Get yourself some of the plastic streamline fairing material that is intended
to fit over the lift struts and cut it to fit the landing ear legs. You will
be pleasantly surprised. It is worth the trouble.
Richard,
How about a close up photo of this stream lined landing gear idea, is it riveted
like the wing strut covers ?
--------
Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents
the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
These flying machines are just a fad and will never catch on Unknown
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
To come along on some of the trips I've done, have a look at the photos
athttp://www.stolspeed.com/id/12 (http://www.stolspeed.com/id/12)
Cheers,
John Gilpin
John G/Gang:
Enjoyed a brief look at your web site. Will spend more time on it when I
get a chance.
A few of us on the Kolb List use our Kolbs for cross country flying and
camping. It has been a challenge to me to fly cross country since two weeks
after I got my Ultrastar flying in 1984. Been at it ever since with the
Firestar and now the MKIII.
When you get to the States, please give me a call and come by and visit.
The porch lights on and the doors unlocked.
John Hauck
255 Coosa Rd
Titus, Alabama 36080
334-567-6280/334-315-2621
Looking forward to meeting you.
john h
mkIII
7 miles south of Burns Junction, Oregon
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| Subject: | Re: Breeze up the boom tube |
| From: | Gary Aman <zeprep251(at)aol.com> |
I flew my Firestar fully enclosed in zero degree weather,taped every openin
g I could find closed,using construction paper and silver tape around the s
par carry thru and piped in heat via scat tube from the cooling shroud .The
n is when I first discovered the cold draft roaring up the boom tube.Pluggi
ng that really did more than the addition of heat from the engine.The prima
ry source of heat with my system was passive solar,and you could survive wi
th that.I started going south for the winter after that.
G.Aman MK3C Firestar 2
-----Original Message-----
From: Thom Riddle <riddletr(at)gmail.com>
Sent: Wed, Oct 5, 2011 8:11 pm
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Breeze up the boom tube
Boyd,
You are probably correct. Although I've flown a MkIII several times I've ne
ver owned one or flown one enough to get to the point that I notice that so
rt of thing. All my KOLB ownership experience is in Firestars and the Sling
shot, both narrow bodied which have not shown the sucking tail syndrome, at
least to a degree sufficient to get my attention.
Thom
On Oct 5, 2011, at 7:02 PM, "b young" wrote:
Rick,
That is an interesting observation. I have never noticed any reverse airflo
w up my Slingshot's tail but that does not mean it isn't there. IF that phe
nomenon is not characteristic of the SS but is for most Kolbs I speculate t
hat it might be caused, or at least influenced by the relative positions of
the horizontal stabilizer and boom tube. On most Kolbs the leading edge of
the HS is well above the centerline of the boom tube, whereas on the SS it
is even with (parallel) with the boom tube. There could be other factors t
oo. I am not even sure what would be an easy way to detect/measure this rev
erse airflow up my SS tail. If it is dramatic as you say on my SS, I would
think it would be obvious to me, but it is not at all. How did you determin
e the speed of roughly half of forward speed? Is it something I could easil
y replicate on my SS?
Thom
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
i think the direction of wind flow in the boom tube has more to do with the
configuration of the cabin area, and whether it has a high or low pressure
, this would be determined mostly by how the rear of the cabin is closed i
n. or lack their of. all things being equal. the air going past the back
of the boom tube should pull a negative pressure on the rear of the tube.
but if there is a larger negative pressure caused by the cabin enclosur
e, then the flow would be forward.
boyd young
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| Subject: | Off field landings |
| From: | "Mystic" <cheoah68(at)gmail.com> |
I've been having fun playing "Bush pilot" in my Firestar. Maybe too much fun....
Broke it down to 3 parts on youtube. Check it out when you've got a few minutes
to kill.
BTW, My 447 is loving the change in weather. Needle is back to th middle, temps
are back up in the green, and she's climbing like we stole somthing!
John Tempest
Firestar "Classic"
447
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_hb2hQbklg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlYBOxyX5Xw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rox7IObjwXc
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| From: | JC Gilpin <j.gilpin(at)bigpond.com> |
But I'm not a citizen or a resident alien or a corporation, I'll be just a
visitor for some months.......
But this might be all for the good anyhow. I'm now back to looking for a
FAR 103 machine after all, so can stay under the radar completely. It's
been a busy couple of days researching for alternatives. I'm still a
Canadian citizen, and apparently could visit the US in a Canadian registered
Advanced Ultralight, but then I'd need a Canadian Recreational Pilot Permit,
SFA, etc, etc. Don't really want to have to jump thro the hoops and hassle
with bureaucrats, and all the cost....... It was lookin more and more
complicated that way, but now it's startin to feel real freedom again this
way!
Of course that means running a 2-stroke, but the FireFly that I have my eye
on has a current parachute, which makes a last ditch back-up if necessary.
I know the 447 really well, having done 1000hrs in front of one in my
little Spectrum Beaver, and it never let me down. I'm really looking
forward to flying a real ultralight again!
So I might see you round the back country airstrips some day.
JG
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| From: | JC Gilpin <j.gilpin(at)bigpond.com> |
Gday John Hauk,
Yeh I know your trips real well, been watching them for years.
I also used to see a website of a fella from Texas who was always flying big
distances.
I'll definitely take you up on a visit. Looks like I'll be starting from
Mississippi so a handy first leg.
Can't get loose from here until March but then I'll be hell for leather.....
See ya,
JG
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| Subject: | Re: Off field landings |
| From: | Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com> |
John, Looks like the very definition of "too much fun". I'm going to put a
bookmark of your videos in a folder so I can use them for inspiration while
I'm rebuilding my Firestar this winter.
Rick
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 6:59 AM, Mystic wrote:
>
> I've been having fun playing "Bush pilot" in my Firestar. Maybe too much
> fun....
>
> Broke it down to 3 parts on youtube. Check it out when you've got a few
> minutes to kill.
>
> BTW, My 447 is loving the change in weather. Needle is back to th middle,
> temps are back up in the green, and she's climbing like we stole somthing!
>
> John Tempest
> Firestar "Classic"
> 447
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_hb2hQbklg
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlYBOxyX5Xw
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rox7IObjwXc
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=354255#354255
>
>
--
Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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| Subject: | Re: Off field landings |
| From: | "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com> |
Great countryside to own a Kolb in, lots of privacy for low flying. 8)
--------
Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents
the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
These flying machines are just a fad and will never catch on Unknown
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| Subject: | Re: Off field landings |
| From: | "Mystic" <cheoah68(at)gmail.com> |
[quote="rickofudall"]John, Looks like the very definition of "too much fun". I'm
going to put a bookmark of your videos in a folder so I can use them for inspiration
while I'm rebuilding my Firestar this winter.
Rick
Rick,
I'll be joining you in the near future. Maybe we can inspire each other. I don't
know how "involved" your rebuild is, but I'm hoping I can get away with a minimum.
Anyway, glad you watched, and good luck with your rebuild. -John
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| Subject: | Re: Off field landings |
| From: | "Mystic" <cheoah68(at)gmail.com> |
It really is a great place to fly a Kolb. Outside of a Clemson home game, the airspace
here is very quiet. It's mountains, lakes, and rivers with plenty of hay
fields and pastures in-between. What more could you ask?
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| From: | Lanny Fetterman <donaho1(at)verizon.net> |
| Subject: | Strut Fairing FYI (hope it comes through) |
Emacs!
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| Subject: | Re: Strut Fairing FYI (hope it comes through) |
| From: | "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com> |
Thanks for the photo, Looks like rivets will work
--------
Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents
the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
These flying machines are just a fad and will never catch on Unknown
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| From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Breeze up the boom tube |
At 07:36 AM 10/6/2011, SS568 wrote:
>
>I found this site that has a simple way of testing the ASI.
>http://www.n56ml.com/airspeed_calibration/
>This is with plane in the hangar and the static air is very static. My
>instruments have their static airs tied together and a plastic tube runs
>up to a disc up near the pitot tube. What is the significance of this
>static air as opposed to just using cabin air? Can that disc be defective
>or stopped up perhaps?
The water manometer described in your link is a good way to calibrate an
ASI... engineers have used water manometers in wind tunnels for years.
Cabin air is notoriously NOT at static pressure. Open a vent, pressure
goes up. Bad door seal, pressure may go down. Open a window or slip the
plane, who knows?
Your plastic disk is an external static air source. It's generally placed
on the side of the fuselage, parallel to the airflow, often in pairs to
cancel any effects from yaw.
-Dana
--
"If you're not a liberal at 20, you have no heart. If you are not a
conservative when you're 30, you have no head."-- Winston Churchill
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| Subject: | Re: Possible MkIII accident in Missouri |
| From: | "Rex Rodebush" <jrrodebush(at)gmail.com> |
Mike,
The only thing I could find was that Gregory Everett, 63, of Versailles, Missouri,
crashed on September 5, 2011. The article states it was a Kolb Mark III but
the picture clearly is a Avid or Kitfox type of plane.
Rex
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| From: | McCarthy Tom <mccarthy(at)jefnet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Anyone check for carbon monoxide? |
I just want to send a huge thank you out to all who responded to my
carbon monoxide issue. I flew the other day to confirm that it was
coming from the boom tube, and whoever likened it to a leaf blower was
dead on. I make up a thick tight fitting closed cell foam piece, and
inserted it from the cockpit side, and flew for an hour today, with the
carbon monoxide detector was never reading over 0, and no more odors
inside. I think the little Kidde battery operated digital display
carbon monoxide detector that I have could be a life saver for others as
well. This is important to me because I fly just as much in the winter
as I do in the summer, and like to seal things up as much as possible.
I recently finished adding my cockpit heat plenum to the oil cooler, and
it works great. I am now ready to land on all the frozen lakes in
comfort.
Thanks again,
Tom McCarthy
Zenith 601HD
Kolb Slingshot
Kolb Firestar
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| From: | Thom Riddle <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Anyone check for carbon monoxide? |
Tom,
Now that you have confirmed there is a big draft from the tube, even on
Slingshots, I guess it is time to take a look at mine. As I said before, I
never noticed any draft but that doesn't mean there is not one. Thanks for
sharing your experience.
Thom in Buffalo
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 11:40 AM, McCarthy Tom wrote:
> I just want to send a huge thank you out to all who responded to my carbon
> monoxide issue. I flew the other day to confirm that it was coming from the
> boom tube, and whoever likened it to a leaf blower was dead on. I make up a
> thick tight fitting closed cell foam piece, and inserted it from the cockpit
> side, and flew for an hour today, with the carbon monoxide detector was
> never reading over 0, and no more odors inside. I think the little Kidde
> battery operated digital display carbon monoxide detector that I have could
> be a life saver for others as well. This is important to me because I fly
> just as much in the winter as I do in the summer, and like to seal things up
> as much as possible. I recently finished adding my cockpit heat plenum to
> the oil cooler, and it works great. I am now ready to land on all the frozen
> lakes in comfort.
>
> Thanks again,
>
>
> Tom McCarthy
> Zenith 601HD
> Kolb Slingshot
> Kolb Firestar
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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| From: | Michael Welch <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Possible MkIII accident in Missouri |
Rex,
You are right, it sure isn't a Kolb.
I just got home a few minutes ago from our monthly EEA chapter meeting,
and one of the members said it is a KitFox (because he used to own one).
OBVIOUSLY, it is either a KitFox, or an Avid (or a clone, if they made any).
The following link has the story;
http://www.missouriinjuryattorneysblog.com/2011/10/plane-crashes-in-rural-morgan.html
Mike Welch
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| From: | "b young" <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Strut Fairings |
I don't mean to be a wet blanket on Boyd's PBI, but Styrofoam will not
stand up to Poly Fiber chemicals whose major solvent is MEK. Instead,
coat the Styrofoam with a mix of epoxy resin and microballoons then wrap
with polyester cloth. After the resin has cured, pull the cloth off. To
fill any pinholes remaining, use pure resin applied with a brush and
scrapped with a single edge razor blade. Repeat this last step as
necessary (depending on how much of a perfectionist you are) until you
get the finish you want. Take care with your selection of paints as any
holes in the epoxy will allow the solvent to attack the foam.
Polyurethane paints are usually safe.
Rick
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
rick and others
that is why I mentioned Styrofoam, or other foam not affected by polly
products, ( I figured Styrofoam would be affected by the polly juice,
pun intended, not sure if it will even handle some epoxy resins)
there are blue and green insulating foam boards, polystyrene??? I
believe that some of the long easy, vary easy, and other fiberglass
kits use foam, it may take a bit of research, but I am sure there is
some type of combination that would work. open cell, closed cell, it
does not have to be structural in nature.
even if you made some aluminum ribs, glued them to the legs with jb
weld or similar,,, and fitted them to a 5/16 trailing edge, you could
cover it with fabric and iron it tight, then paint. I was just
trying to think outside the box, and less weight than plastic strut
cover,
mike when you get the idea perfected, let us in on the possibilities.
boyd young
mkiii utah
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| Subject: | Re: Strut Fairings |
| From: | Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com> |
Boyd, The Rutan canards and other aircraft that use a hot wire to cut out
airfoil shapes use styrofoam (polystyrene foam) because it is produced with
steam and releases water vapor when cut. It will handle epoxy resins as
noted above, but not Polyester resin or any solvents. Gasoline also melts
it. Urethane foam, which was used for the Varieze fuselage panels gives off
cyanide gas when cut with a hot wire, definitely hazardous to your health.
It does shape with sandpaper fairly easily. Divinycell foam is used for the
LongEZE fuselage. It is compatible with Polyester, Vinylester, and Epoxy
resins. I've not tried to hot wire it and it isn't listed on DIAB's website
as a manufacturing method. It can be sanded to shape but it's a lot tougher
than urethane.
Rick
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 12:18 PM, b young wrote:
> **
> I don't mean to be a wet blanket on Boyd's PBI, but Styrofoam will not
> stand up to Poly Fiber chemicals whose major solvent is MEK. Instead, coat
> the Styrofoam with a mix of epoxy resin and microballoons then wrap with
> polyester cloth. After the resin has cured, pull the cloth off. To fill any
> pinholes remaining, use pure resin applied with a brush and scrapped with a
> single edge razor blade. Repeat this last step as necessary (depending on
> how much of a perfectionist you are) until you get the finish you want. Take
> care with your selection of paints as any holes in the epoxy will allow the
> solvent to attack the foam. Polyurethane paints are usually safe.
>
> Rick
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> rick and others
>
> that is why I mentioned Styrofoam, or other foam not affected by polly
> products, ( I figured Styrofoam would be affected by the polly juice, pun
> intended, not sure if it will even handle some epoxy resins) there are
> blue and green insulating foam boards, polystyrene??? I believe that
> some of the long easy, vary easy, and other fiberglass kits use foam, it
> may take a bit of research, but I am sure there is some type of combination
> that would work. open cell, closed cell, it does not have to be structural
> in nature.
>
> even if you made some aluminum ribs, glued them to the legs with jb weld
> or similar,,, and fitted them to a 5/16 trailing edge, you could cover it
> with fabric and iron it tight, then paint. I was just trying to think
> outside the box, and less weight than plastic strut cover,
>
> mike when you get the idea perfected, let us in on the possibilities.
>
> boyd young
> mkiii utah
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
--
Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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| Subject: | Re: Possible MkIII accident in Missouri |
| From: | robert bean <slyck(at)frontiernet.net> |
Wow!, no trees, flat terrain...... whazzup with that guy? maybe afraid of cow
pies?
He may not have been flying a Kolb but sure experienced his own version of "Kolb
quit".
BB
MkIII, suzuki.
On 8, Oct 2011, at 12:34 PM, Michael Welch wrote:
>
> Rex,
>
> You are right, it sure isn't a Kolb.
>
> I just got home a few minutes ago from our monthly EEA chapter meeting,
> and one of the members said it is a KitFox (because he used to own one).
>
> OBVIOUSLY, it is either a KitFox, or an Avid (or a clone, if they made any).
>
> The following link has the story;
>
> http://www.missouriinjuryattorneysblog.com/2011/10/plane-crashes-in-rural-morgan.html
>
> Mike Welch
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| From: | "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Strut Fairings |
Gang,
I made some a few years ago and just covered them with the shrink fit
stuff that they cover model airplanes with. You can get it in the colors
that you want and it is easy to work with. Quick and easy, just not as
durable as the plastic or metal ones.
Larry
Note: If you forward this email, please delete the forwarding history,
which includes my email address.
----- Original Message -----
From: b young
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Strut Fairings
I don't mean to be a wet blanket on Boyd's PBI, but Styrofoam will not
stand up to Poly Fiber chemicals whose major solvent is MEK. Instead,
coat the Styrofoam with a mix of epoxy resin and microballoons then wrap
with polyester cloth. After the resin has cured, pull the cloth off. To
fill any pinholes remaining, use pure resin applied with a brush and
scrapped with a single edge razor blade. Repeat this last step as
necessary (depending on how much of a perfectionist you are) until you
get the finish you want. Take care with your selection of paints as any
holes in the epoxy will allow the solvent to attack the foam.
Polyurethane paints are usually safe.
Rick
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
rick and others
that is why I mentioned Styrofoam, or other foam not affected by
polly products, ( I figured Styrofoam would be affected by the polly
juice, pun intended, not sure if it will even handle some epoxy
resins) there are blue and green insulating foam boards,
polystyrene??? I believe that some of the long easy, vary easy,
and other fiberglass kits use foam, it may take a bit of research, but
I am sure there is some type of combination that would work. open cell,
closed cell, it does not have to be structural in nature.
even if you made some aluminum ribs, glued them to the legs with jb
weld or similar,,, and fitted them to a 5/16 trailing edge, you could
cover it with fabric and iron it tight, then paint. I was just
trying to think outside the box, and less weight than plastic strut
cover,
mike when you get the idea perfected, let us in on the possibilities.
boyd young
mkiii utah
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| Subject: | Re: Possible MkIII accident in Missouri |
| From: | "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com> |
Most likely Mental panic set in, that's why we should practice for the 'inevitable'
sport plane engine out. Hope he heals up OK .
--------
Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents
the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
These flying machines are just a fad and will never catch on Unknown
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| From: | robert bean <slyck(at)frontiernet.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Strut Fairings |
Now that's a great idea. Thanks.
BB
On 8, Oct 2011, at 5:31 PM, Larry Cottrell wrote:
> Gang,
> I made some a few years ago and just covered them with the shrink fit
stuff that they cover model airplanes with. You can get it in the colors
that you want and it is easy to work with. Quick and easy, just not as
durable as the plastic or metal ones.
> Larry
>
> Note: If you forward this email, please delete the forwarding history,
which includes my email address.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: b young
> To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 11:18 AM
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Strut Fairings
>
> I don't mean to be a wet blanket on Boyd's PBI, but Styrofoam will not
stand up to Poly Fiber chemicals whose major solvent is MEK. Instead,
coat the Styrofoam with a mix of epoxy resin and microballoons then wrap
with polyester cloth. After the resin has cured, pull the cloth off. To
fill any pinholes remaining, use pure resin applied with a brush and
scrapped with a single edge razor blade. Repeat this last step as
necessary (depending on how much of a perfectionist you are) until you
get the finish you want. Take care with your selection of paints as any
holes in the epoxy will allow the solvent to attack the foam.
Polyurethane paints are usually safe.
>
> Rick
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> rick and others
>
> that is why I mentioned Styrofoam, or other foam not affected by
polly products, ( I figured Styrofoam would be affected by the polly
juice, pun intended, not sure if it will even handle some epoxy
resins) there are blue and green insulating foam boards,
polystyrene??? I believe that some of the long easy, vary easy,
and other fiberglass kits use foam, it may take a bit of research, but
I am sure there is some type of combination that would work. open cell,
closed cell, it does not have to be structural in nature.
>
> even if you made some aluminum ribs, glued them to the legs with jb
weld or similar,,, and fitted them to a 5/16 trailing edge, you could
cover it with fabric and iron it tight, then paint. I was just
trying to think outside the box, and less weight than plastic strut
cover,
>
> mike when you get the idea perfected, let us in on the possibilities.
>
> boyd young
> mkiii utah
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Off field landings |
| From: | "Mystic" <cheoah68(at)gmail.com> |
Thanks for sharing the video. Good entertainment. But, just wondering how cold
the water is (if one was to have an engine out and have to put down in it)?
Bill Varnes
Original Kolb FireStar
Audubon NJ
Thanks Bill. Hartwell is a pretty shallow lake that is about 15ft below normal
now, and it got baked into bath water over the summer. Believe it or not, it is
still quite warm. These days we're enjoying some really nice weather that is
keeping it hospitable for a while longer. But, yes, It will eventually get to
the point where it is no longer the comfy safety blanket I now enjoy.
When the weather (and water) become cold enough, I'll don my dry suit that I use
when I go kayaking in the cold. The seat cushion I use now, which serves double
duty as leaf blower blocker, and (in emergency) flotation device, will be
stowed away.
I did have an engine out once, over that lake. I was at about 600', and luckily
spotted a small island. From the air I could see it had a long shallow shoal
on each end. My plan was to land short in the shallow water and run in up on the
dry. I overshot my landing, (misjudged wind) landed dry, and ran it into the
water. When the mains hit that mud, It stood it on it's nose, was vertical for
3 seconds, and came down on on all 3.
After that my luck changed. A boater saw the whole thing, dropped off tools to
remove wings, returned with pontoon, wings across the rails, then returned to
get me and plane, JUST fit aboard, took me to boat landing where brother was waiting
with trailer.
Kolb fixed me up with FS2 nose (which made for a much improved windscreen), diagnosed
stoppage, added fuel pump filter, and I'm back.
Looking back now, I can honestly say (foolishly or not) that I was never worried
about me. I knew I could land wet and be safe. I just wanted to save the crate.
And I'm glad I was lucky enough to be able. I know when I fly low over water
I'm risking my Kolb, but not so much me. I feel safe low on the water.
John Tempest
Firestar 1
447
If the builder up in Eagle River sees this, I'm sorry. But she's fine, straight,
and flying great.
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| From: | "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Possible MkIII accident in Missouri |
Loved the write up of the `Mark 3 Kitfox` crash.
I didn`t know that in the US they employed 3 year olds who have not started
language lessons yet to write accident reports.
I have heard of `dumbing down but, good grief!.
Pat
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| From: | Herb Gayheart <herbgh(at)nctc.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Possible MkIII accident in Missouri |
Since the FAA does not get a picture...guess one could register any
airplane as a Kolb? Just as long as the paperwork is up to snuff...Herb...
At 07:55 AM 10/9/2011, you wrote:
>
>Loved the write up of the `Mark 3 Kitfox` crash.
>
>I didn`t know that in the US they employed 3 year olds who have not
>started language lessons yet to write accident reports.
>
>I have heard of `dumbing down but, good grief!.
>
>Pat
>
>
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| From: | russ kinne <russkinne(at)mac.com> |
Hopefully this is NOT Kolb-related
>
> A blonde is on board a small two-seater airplane, when suddenly the
pilot dies. Not knowing how to fly a plane, she grabs the radio.
> "Mayday !, Mayday !, Mayday !, Help !, My pilot just died!"
> Ground control received her call for help, and answered back:
> "Don't worry, madam=EF=BD. I'll talk you down, just do as I say.
> First, I need you to give me your height, and position."
> "I'm 5"2', blonde and sitting in the right front seat."
> Ground control: "Repeat after me: Our Father... which art in Heaven
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
10/06/11 18:34:00
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Possible MkIII accident in Missouri |
Since the FAA does not get a picture...guess one could register any
airplane as a Kolb? Just as long as the paperwork is up to snuff...Herb...
Herb/Gang;
The N number was registered for a MKIII, but an Airworthiness Certificate
was never issued for that airplane. It was built by another individual and
sold to the gent involved in the crash.
Maybe this gent used the MKIII N number on his Kit Fox, or whatever it was,
that crashed.
john h
mkIII
Burns Junction, OR
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| Subject: | Re: New Firefly owner looking for Mark III training in PA |
| From: | "mburdge39" <mburdge(at)windstream.net> |
My firefly survived the journey to it's new home. Still looking for someone in
the PA/OH area that might be able to help me out with some Kolb training. Prefer
not to train in a 172. Any ideas?
Thanks!
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Mike
Firefly
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| Subject: | Re: Official Kolb-List Usage Guidelines |
| From: | Fran Losey <loseyf(at)comcast.net> |
Hi Matt, would you please remove me from the Kolb list?
Thank you for the assistance.
Fran Losey
Sent from my iPad
Loseyf(at)comcast.net
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| Subject: | Re: Breeze up the boom tube |
| From: | "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
This summer weather in October was waaay too good not to fly, so I flew to Bob
Bean's place and landed on his "mature grass" airstrip. No Brakes Required!
Enroute, I stuck my hand back under the rear seat and felt a light breeze, nothing
like I think the wide body Kolbs get. It was a little cool to have my forward
vents open so this slight breeze was with a bit of negative cabin pressure
(presumably) because the aft vents were open in exhaust mode. By the time I got
close to BB's place it was warm enough to open the forward vents, which I did.
With this bit of positive pressure, I stuck my hand back under the rear seat
and the air felt completely static to me.
My conclusion is that in MY slingshot, the breezy boom tube phenomenon is minimal
and then only without forward vents open. Other Kolb types or even other slingshots
may have a different experience.
After landing at BB's he gave me the grand tour of his brand new pole barn, just
finished yesterday except for the garage door. Then we cranked up both the Kolbs
and flew about 10 miles NW of his place to have lunch at Abe's Log Cabin
restaurant, a very short walk from a very nice two runway grass airstrip, called
Ridge Road West. After lunch we departed on our separate ways.
What a glorious October day for flying it was here in western New York.
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x32
Truth is what stands the test of experience.
- Albert Einstein
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| From: | "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: New Firefly owner looking for Mark III training in |
PA
Prefer not to train in a 172. Any ideas?
Thanks!>>
If you already know how to fly just practice with your machine until you are
happy that you are in control when taxiing. Then pick a nice day, early
morning, big field or long runway and open the throttle. SLIGHT forward
stick to get the tail up and just sit there. She will climb away quite
happily. Dont let the speed drop.If things get too fast ease the stick
back.Level out , throttle back fly around at 1000 ft maybe try a GENTLE
stall so that you know what speed to land at according to your ASI. Add 10
mph to stall speed and fly an approach. Cut the throttle over the hedge
watching your nose to maintain speed. Flare JUST ABOVE the ground (if you
are on grass it is when the blur changes to individual blades of grass.) and
keep her flying as long as possible until the stick is back in your stomach
and the wheels touch the ground.
Do Not crowhop.Things happen too fast at low level. Get well clear of the
ground and give yourself time to sort it out.
Of course if you cannot fly already. Get some lessons.
Good luck
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: New Firefly owner looking for Mark III training in |
PA
| From: | Gary Aman <zeprep251(at)aol.com> |
Have to agree with Pat
The difference between solo and two up, even in the MK3, makes it like two
different airplanes.
G.Aman,FS2 builder, MK3C Jabiru 2200A now
-----Original Message-----
From: Pat Ladd <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com>
Sent: Sun, Oct 9, 2011 4:26 pm
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: New Firefly owner looking for Mark III training
in PA
Prefer not to train in a 172. Any ideas?
Thanks!>>
If you already know how to fly just practice with your machine until you ar
e
happy that you are in control when taxiing. Then pick a nice day, early
morning, big field or long runway and open the throttle. SLIGHT forward
stick to get the tail up and just sit there. She will climb away quite
happily. Dont let the speed drop.If things get too fast ease the stick
back.Level out , throttle back fly around at 1000 ft maybe try a GENTLE
stall so that you know what speed to land at according to your ASI. Add 10
mph to stall speed and fly an approach. Cut the throttle over the hedge
watching your nose to maintain speed. Flare JUST ABOVE the ground (if you
are on grass it is when the blur changes to individual blades of grass.) an
d
keep her flying as long as possible until the stick is back in your stomach
and the wheels touch the ground.
Do Not crowhop.Things happen too fast at low level. Get well clear of the
ground and give yourself time to sort it out.
Of course if you cannot fly already. Get some lessons.
Good luck
Pat
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| From: | "tkben002" <tkben002(at)bellsouth.net> |
My wife brought my son out to the airport so I took him for his first ride. He
was pretty excited. My wife filmed it so it is a little shaky.
Travis Bennett
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5WSIm4Uc-s
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| From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Official Kolb-List Usage Guidelines |
Fran, you added yourself to this list, you have to remove
yourself. Information is at the bottom of each post.
-Dana
At 02:35 PM 10/9/2011, Fran Losey wrote:
>
>Hi Matt, would you please remove me from the Kolb list?
>
>Thank you for the assistance.
>
>Fran Losey
>Sent from my iPad
>Loseyf(at)comcast.net
>
>On Oct 2, 2011, at 2:01, Matt Dralle wrote:
>
>
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Smallpox has been largely destroyed - should the virus be given endanged
species status?
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| Subject: | Re: Official Kolb-List Usage Guidelines |
| From: | Fran Losey <loseyf(at)comcast.net> |
Thank you.
Fran Losey
Sent from my iPad
Loseyf(at)comcast.net
On Oct 9, 2011, at 18:47, Dana Hague wrote:
> Fran, you added yourself to this list, you have to remove yourself. Infor
mation is at the bottom of each post.
>
> -Dana
>
> At 02:35 PM 10/9/2011, Fran Losey wrote:
>>
>> Hi Matt, would you please remove me from the Kolb list?
>>
>> Thank you for the assistance.
>>
>> Fran Losey
>> Sent from my iPad
>> Loseyf(at)comcast.net
>>
>> On Oct 2, 2011, at 2:01, Matt Dralle wrote:
>>
>>
>> Email Forum -
>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List
>> - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS -
>> http://forums.matronics.com
>> - List Contribution Web Site -
>> -Matt Dralle, List Admin.
>> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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>> Smallpox has been largely destroyed - should the virus be given endanged s
pecies status?
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| Subject: | Re: New Firefly owner looking for Mark III training in PA |
| From: | "mburdge39" <mburdge(at)windstream.net> |
Appreciate the tips guys.
I am 43 and years ago had a 2 axis quick. Then did PPG. Most recently been flying
trikes. Rudders are new to me!
I just got in from taxi practice and my feet are not connected with my brain yet(opposite
from the trike steering). I will keep practicing until the muscle memory
is there and I can control it naturally without "thinking". My buddy has
a Piper Cub and I can go up with him anytime I want, I just don't want it to
be counter productive to flying my Kolb.
Here are the 2 airstrips I will eventually be flying my Firefly out of!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dwnx3mOh6xU
Thanks again and look forward to being part of the Kolb family!
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Mike
Firefly
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| Subject: | Re: Kolbra video |
| From: | "ces308" <ces308(at)ldaco.com> |
Nice job ,Travis !! Your airplane looks great too !
How did you make out on your cooling???
chris ambrose
M3X/Jabiru A-2200 230.hrs
N327CS
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| Subject: | Re: Kolbra video |
| From: | "tkben002" <tkben002(at)bellsouth.net> |
Chris, still working on the cooling, have been tilting the carb to get my egt's
closer and found out they were hooked up backwards. I think I am going to go
ahead and order the Jabiru needle and some jets, they are ok now but last weekend
I flew in the morning and it was around 50 degrees and the egts were back
over 1400. I am off today so I will make some baffles and see how that turns
out.
Travis Bennett
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| Subject: | Re: Strut Fairings |
| From: | "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
Dennis Thate wrote:
>
> Richard,
>
> How about a close up photo of this stream lined landing gear idea, is it riveted
like the wing strut covers ?
Here ye be! These are the plastic lift strut fairings that Kolb sells, cut down
to fit. I make paper templates of how I want the top and bottom to fit, do the
bottom first, and the top last.
Jack the airplane up and remove the bolt that holds the gear leg in place, slip
the fairing over the leg and then put the gear leg back in the socket. Do the
bottom first, a Moto-Tool works well. Then with the leg slid most of the way
in to where it needs to be in the socket, make the upper template out of paper
and trace it on the leg. Keep cutting it off a bit at a time until the leg goes
in far enough for the bolt to fit. I probably put each gear leg in and out
25 times.... groan... A tedious process, but gives decent results.
Because of how the fairing slips over the top and bottom hardware, it does not
need to be anchored to anything, it cannot rotate or move enough to matter. I
ran my brake line down the inside of mine. Just a word of warning - mine were
not symmetrical, the templates for one side were close for the other, but not
quite. Why? - ??? So don't assume.
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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Hebrews 11:1
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| Subject: | Re: Strut Fairings |
| From: | "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com> |
Thanks Richard for taking the time to get and post the photos. Was the benefit
worth the effort & cost ?
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Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents
the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
These flying machines are just a fad and will never catch on Unknown
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| Subject: | Re: Strut Fairings |
| From: | Rick Neilsen <neilsenrm(at)gmail.com> |
My gear legs are the thin tapered solid spring steel legs. I used a
insulating product in a can called Tough Stuff. Applied it to the front and
back of the gear legs and used a knife to cut it into the basic stream line
shape when dry then sanded for more precise shape. Then I mixed
micro balloons and epoxie to fill holes and smooth out the surface. I was a
bit impatient and it doesn't look very good so I will not send any photos.
With more care it would be fine. It was quick and easy. My gear legs are
small but I didn't notice any improvement in speeds.
I use Great Stuff for lots of things. Even used it to fill the fuselage tub
e
to stop the leaf blower effect. Big mistake. I almost broke the control
cables trying to free them up from the foam. It did stop the air movement.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Dennis Thate wrote
:
>
> Thanks Richard for taking the time to get and post the photos. Was the
> benefit worth the effort & cost ?
>
> --------
> Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist
> invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
>
> =85=94These flying machines are just a fad and will never catch on=85=94
Unknown
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| Subject: | Re: New Firefly owner looking for Mark III training in PA |
| From: | "mburdge39" <mburdge(at)windstream.net> |
Guess I should have said rudder "pedals" are new to me.
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Mike
Firefly
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| Subject: | Tiny Tach custom coax length |
| From: | "mburdge39" <mburdge(at)windstream.net> |
Tiny Tach can customize the length for me when I place my order. Would anyone know
the length I would need for my Firefly? Not at the hangar to do the measuring
myself. Thanks!
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Mike
Firefly
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| Subject: | Re: Strut Fairings |
| From: | "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
Dennis Thate wrote:
> Was the benefit worth the effort & cost ?
On the flight right after installing them, I immediately noticed that the airplane
wanted to fly much more nose up so that I had to add nose down trim to make
it fly normally. Apparently it diminished the gear leg drag enough to change
the way the airplane flew. Now did I notice it going any faster? No. But by modifying
a bunch of little things here and there, did I notice that at a given
speed, I could use less RPM? Yes. Lots of little things do add up, either in
the plus or minus column, depending on what they are.
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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Hebrews 11:1
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| Subject: | Re: Thom, Chris or Jabiru owners |
| From: | "tkben002" <tkben002(at)bellsouth.net> |
Well, I finally built some baffles. I built a front and rear only and only on
the cylinders 2 and 4 bank. I only have 2 cht probes so I moved them both to
that side so I can tweak it as needed. I went and flew for an hour and could
not get the chts on either one over 330 to 335 and that was climb to 5k ft at
60 mph. At cruise the hottest one (the back cylinder) was anywhere from 295 to
305. So far the results are good, still need to work at it though.
Travis Bennett
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| Subject: | Re: Tiny Tach custom coax length |
| From: | Ellery Batchelder Jr <elleryweld(at)aol.com> |
it is not a big deal to lengthen the wire your self just add on to your wir
es and hook the ground to a good Ground
and Hook your sensor wire (something you can wrap around your plug wire and
stay that way ) something in a single conductor works great
this is just what you paid for it but it works for me
Ellery Batchelder Jr.
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Sent: Mon, Oct 10, 2011 3:55 pm
Subject: Kolb-List: Tiny Tach custom coax length
Tiny Tach can customize the length for me when I place my order. Would anyo
ne
now the length I would need for my Firefly? Not at the hangar to do the
easuring myself. Thanks!
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ike
irefly
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| From: | "SS568" <david(at)PaulowniaTrees.com> |
I am looking for a headset. Since there is lots of experience on here, Is the
extra cost of active noise reduction headsets justified. Usually 2 to 3 hundred
$ more.
Thanks,
David d.
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Kolb Mark IIIX 582 Blue head
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| From: | "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: ANR head sets |
My suggestion would be to try several different headsets to see which
one works for you. I had a DRE 6000 that almost every one else thought
improved their ability to hear, I got better noise reduction from a
Sigtronics S45. A friend of mine put ANR innards into a S45. For me it
does nothing, but he swears by it.
Larry, just a little bit different!
Note: If you forward this email, please delete the forwarding history,
which includes my email address.
----- Original Message -----
From: SS568
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 7:26 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: ANR head sets
I am looking for a headset. Since there is lots of experience on
here, Is the extra cost of active noise reduction headsets justified.
Usually 2 to 3 hundred $ more.
Thanks,
David d.
--------
Kolb Mark IIIX 582 Blue head
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| From: | "b young" <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: ANR head sets |
I am looking for a headset. Since there is lots of experience on here, Is
the extra cost of active noise reduction headsets justified. Usually 2 to 3
hundred $ more.
Thanks,
David d.
--------
Kolb Mark IIIX 582 Blue head
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I started out with a standard headset, I had to call the company and get a
new mike designed for high noise environment, the new mike kept the noise
level down in the intercom, at that point I was quite happy, then tried an
ANR headset, it took out a lot of the low end noise, and made it more
comfortable to fly. I also had to call the factory and they told me how to
adjust the mike gain down, again so the ambient noise did not overpower the
intercom. the noise canceling worked better when I connected it to a
battery eliminator, instead of the 9 volt battery. the battery eliminator
also powers my radio and intercom.
boyd young
mkiii utah
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| Subject: | Re: ANR head sets |
| From: | Gary Aman <zeprep251(at)aol.com> |
I modified my 30 year old David Clarks by adding, Head Sets Inc. ANR kits t
o them for about 170.00 per set.They come with battery packs,9V,I got tired
of buying batteries and installed their filtered power supply,less than 40
.00 as I recall and I think they work very well.
G.Aman mk3c jabiru 2200a
-----Original Message-----
From: b young <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com>
Sent: Mon, Oct 10, 2011 10:33 pm
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: ANR head sets
I am looking for a headset. Since there is lots of experience on here, Is
the extra cost of active noise reduction headsets justified. Usually 2 to
3
hundred $ more.
Thanks,
David d.
--------
Kolb Mark IIIX 582 Blue head
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I started out with a standard headset, I had to call the company and get
a
new mike designed for high noise environment, the new mike kept the noise
level down in the intercom, at that point I was quite happy, then tried a
n
ANR headset, it took out a lot of the low end noise, and made it more
comfortable to fly. I also had to call the factory and they told me how t
o
adjust the mike gain down, again so the ambient noise did not overpower th
e
intercom. the noise canceling worked better when I connected it to a
battery eliminator, instead of the 9 volt battery. the battery eliminato
r
also powers my radio and intercom.
boyd young
mkiii utah
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| Subject: | Re: Tiny Tach custom coax length |
| From: | "Thumper" <dlong1957(at)yahoo.com> |
13' worked on my Firestar1 but to be safe get 14'. that will give you more options
for routing away from main wires.
Dennis L.
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Dennis Long
Oakland TN
2001 Kolb Mark IIIC
110+ hours since March 2011
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| Subject: | Extension or Spacer options |
| From: | "aslink" <andysheila(at)eltopia.com> |
WANTED: 3 inch propeller extension to go between HKS 700E "B" box and Powerfin
3 blade propeller or advice about extensions and spacers for a Kolb Firestar II.
Thanks,
Andy
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Andy
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| From: | "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: ANR head sets |
Gary,
I get bad interference with the radio from my Jabiru. Obviously need a
suppressor. Any ideas where I should start?
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: New Firefly owner looking for Mark III training in PA |
If you are not used to peddals, the cub is the perfect airplane to learn that skill.
In my opinion, if you can fly the cub confidently, you will be ok in the
firefly. Just remember to carry a bunch of power on landing until you get used
to how fast the fly slows down.
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| Subject: | Re: ANR head sets |
| From: | "SS568" <david(at)PaulowniaTrees.com> |
Thanks for the replies so far. It seems that ANR is worth the extra bucks.
Most head sets on ebay etc. are the non ANR models. They want to get rid of them
for some reason ???
Anyone have one or two pair of ANR's they want to sell?
David d.
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Kolb Mark IIIX 582 Blue head
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| From: | Bob Green <bgreen(at)bimi.org> |
| Subject: | RE: Kolb-List Digest: 13 Msgs - 10/10/11 |
David:
I have a David Clark with active sound attenuation and really like it. I am looking
forward to
purchasing a helmet that works with the D/C headsets. IMO they are worth the money.
I lost the hearing
in my right ear several years ago and need the quality of the sound in a headset
but also the protection
for what hearing I have in my left ear. As a 68 year old pilot with 40 plus year
experience I want to
encourage all to use headsets to protect their hearing.
Bob
Kolb MKIIIX in construction
GPAS VW w/re-drive Culver prop
N830P
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| From: | Phil <phactor9(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: RE: Kolb-List Digest: 13 Msgs - 10/10/11 |
Losing your hearing OR EYESIGHT is definitely a life-changing event; one th
at does NOT just "happen to the other guy".
If anyone is seeing flashes or blinks of light, no matter how faint, or you
are nearsighted, GO SEE AN OPHTHAMOLOGIST IMMEDIATELY. Or at least an opto
metrist who can refer you to an optha. if needed. Those flashes of light ar
e physical anomalies usually indicating the vitreous (gel) is separating (t
earing) from your retina (back of the eye) and can represent a precursor to
a rupture and/or massive floaters that can disrupt your depth perception a
nd vision in general, and change your life for the worse. Don't ask me how
I know all this.
Ever crack an egg and notice how the whites are "connected" to the shell? T
he vitreous (gel) is attached to your retina in a similar fashion. Should t
hat detach, even in spots, your retina can be seriously affected.
In addition to watching for inner-eye light-sparks, blinks and flashes, wea
r your goggles! Am I trying to scare you? Yes.
Phil H.
--- On Tue, 10/11/11, Bob Green wrote:
From: Bob Green <bgreen(at)bimi.org>
Subject: Kolb-List: RE: Kolb-List Digest: 13 Msgs - 10/10/11
Date: Tuesday, October 11, 2011, 11:02 AM
David:
I have a David Clark with active sound attenuation and really like it.- I
am looking forward to
purchasing a helmet that works with the D/C headsets.- IMO they are worth
the money.- I lost the hearing
in my right ear several years ago and need the quality of the sound in a he
adset but also the protection
for what hearing I have in my left ear.- As a 68 year old pilot with 40 p
lus year experience I want to
encourage all to use headsets to protect their hearing.
Bob
Kolb MKIIIX in construction
GPAS VW w/re-drive Culver prop
N830P
le, List Admin.
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| Subject: | Re: Tiny Tach custom coax length |
| From: | "mburdge39" <mburdge(at)windstream.net> |
Thanks Dennis!
I had ordered 12' but was able to call in and change it to 14'. They verified that
any excess could be zip tied out of the way.
--------
Mike
Firefly
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| Subject: | Re: New Firefly owner looking for Mark III training in PA |
| From: | "mburdge39" <mburdge(at)windstream.net> |
Thanks Jason!
Went up in the Cub yesterday and I am looking forward to actually "seeing" out
of the front of my Firefly! It was a beautiful flight looking out of the sides
and I did get some stick & rudder time.
--------
Mike
Firefly
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| Subject: | Re: Strut Fairings |
| From: | "Kirby, Dennis Civ USAF AFMC AFNWC/EN" <Dennis.Kirby(at)kirtland.af.mil> |
<< I used a insulating product in a can called Tough Stuff. Applied it
to the front and back of the gear legs and used a knife to cut it into
the basic stream line shape when dry. Rick Neilsen >>
Kolb Friends -
This is exactly how I secured the fairings on my gear legs. That
expanding foam does a good job of holding things in place. For the
first few months, the fairings stayed tight. Eventually they loosened
up, to where they rotate around the gear leg a little bit, but it does
not degrade their effectiveness any. Now, the fairings automatically
align themselves with the free stream during flight,
Incidentally - Here is why it's worth the bother to apply fairings to
your gear legs, even if they're short. I learned this in Aero-101:
Adding an aerodynamic fairing to a round tube results in ONE-SEVENTH the
drag!
I also used Tough Stuff to fill in the gap between the bottom of the
nose fairing and the floor of the cabin interior. My feet used to
freeze in winter, due to the air sucking in from that area. No more.
Dennis Kirby
Mark-3, 912ul, "Magic Bike" in
Sandia Park, NM
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| Subject: | Re: Strut Fairings |
| From: | "flyingfischead" <flyingfischead(at)yahoo.com> |
Hello guys,
I'm new to the site and to the world of Kolbs. I recently purchased a late 80's
early 90's firestar (logs not to good) and I am planning a restoration over this
winter. I've been planning my attack so I have been reviewing the great info
on the site. I was reading the strut fairings discussion and the differant
ways to put fairings on the gear legs. Just to throw in my 2 cents worth, when
I was flying Hang Gliders in the 80's someone made and sold fairings for the
control down tubes on the glider. They where foam covered with dacron material
and velcro'd on to the tubes. I don't know who made them or if they are still
available but it might be worth doing some searching. The guys I knew that used
them said they made a lot of difference plus added cushion on their shoulders
when launching. Just a thought.
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| Subject: | Re: ANR head sets |
| From: | Gary Aman <zeprep251(at)aol.com> |
Pat,
Wish I could help you ,I have the same issue.I think the distributor cap/ro
tor thing is suspect.
Gary
-----Original Message-----
From: Pat Ladd <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com>
Sent: Tue, Oct 11, 2011 10:25 am
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: ANR head sets
Gary,
I get bad interference with the radio from my Jabiru. Obviously need a supp
ressor. Any ideas where I should start?
Pat
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| From: | "George Bearden" <gab16(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | RE: Kolb-List Digest: 15 Msgs - 10/11/11 |
> I get bad interference with the radio from my Jabiru. Obviously need a
suppressor.
Ummm... maybe a suppressor would be the best choice. But maybe not. I have
been into 4x4s. We use radios a lot. And stereos. I have read several VERY
interesting write-ups on successful noise suppression. 4x4 Yahoo groups
might supply some good ideas for you. The basic lesson I learned is that
noise suppression CAN be a a whole mess of things that need attended to. And
maybe not, in your case. I can't recite for you the list of things people
do, but I can give you just a taste...
- try to eliminate noise at the source, not just at the receiving end.
- use the right sort of quality ignition wires, make sure they are installed
properly and are supported properly.
- make sure you understand what you are doing if you install shielding on
your secondary ignition wires. They can work or not work.
- Use by-pass capacitors liberally on power supply lines.
- Ground metal parts, metal sheets, wires, frame sections, etc
- Ground any metal doors. We want to make sure we are not re-radiating a
noise signal.
- be careful of un-terminated or dangling wires that can transmit noise.
- pay special attention to ignition parts; cases and shielding need to be
tight and secure and grounded.
- use by-pass capacitors AT LEAST on the generator. There are other more
complex and expensive noise-elimination items that may be needed here too.
- power supply lines may need a conditioner (your suppressor?). IIRC this
will probably contain capacitance AND reluctance.
At this time of night I can't remember any more off hand.
Please don't believe half of what I wrote- I am trying to recall the flavor
of the suggestions. Personally I would research the issue more closely.
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| From: | "George Bearden" <gab16(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | RE: ANR head sets |
> I modified my 30 year old David Clarks by adding, Head Sets Inc. ANR kits
to them
The fella I bought my Firestar from told me his best luck was ANR ear buds
worn under normal noise suppression headsets, or was it shooting headsets?
Anyway, that was his chosen path.
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| From: | "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: RE: Kolb-List Digest: 15 Msgs - 10/11/11 |
Thanks George,
that will do to be going on with.
My guru said about the same `you just keep suppressing things until the
noise stops`
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: New Firefly owner looking for Mark III training in PA |
| From: | "Ducati SS" <hiwingflyer6219(at)yahoo.com> |
I finished construction of my Firefly one year ago. I also moved to a new house
with enough land to build a 900' grass strip. Bought a tractor to build and maintain
the strip and had a hanger built. And then the plane sat for a year because
I could find no training. As a GA pilot I was worried about the transition
to a light weight high drag aircraft. Well after looking at it for a year I
decided bend it or not I might as well give it a try. Made the first flights
about 2 weeks ago. Left here ( Argyle NY ) and flew to a much longer grass strip
to practice. At the end of 2 to 3 hrs. flight time I was able to return home.
A very nice flying little airplane, however I do not think it is possible to
overstate how fast it will stop flying and fall out from under you on final.
I have spoken to other local pilots, and their are numerous stories of bent or
smashed landing gear. We also lost a local ultralight pilot last week, he crashed
100 yards from his runway. We need rule changes that will allow and encourage
training.
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| Subject: | Re: New Firefly owner looking for Mark III training in PA |
| From: | "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com> |
Ducati SS wrote:
> I finished construction of my Firefly one year ago. I also moved to a new house
with enough land to build a 900' grass strip. Bought a tractor to build and
maintain the strip and had a hanger built. And then the plane sat for a year
because I could find no training. As a GA pilot I was worried about the transition
to a light weight high drag aircraft. Well after looking at it for a year
I decided bend it or not I might as well give it a try. Made the first flights
about 2 weeks ago. Left here ( Argyle NY ) and flew to a much longer grass strip
to practice. At the end of 2 to 3 hrs. flight time I was able to return home.
A very nice flying little airplane, however I do not think it is possible
to overstate how fast it will stop flying and fall out from under you on final.
I have spoken to other local pilots, and their are numerous stories of bent
or smashed landing gear. We also lost a local ultralight pilot last week, he
crashed 100 yards from his runway. We need rule changes that will allow and encourage
training.
I could not agree more. We need accessibility to quality transition instruction
for the appropriate sport plane aircraft. The Sport Plane Industry needs to
step up to the plate, if this industry and us pilots are going to survive
.
--------
Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents
the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
These flying machines are just a fad and will never catch on Unknown
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| Subject: | Re: New Firefly owner looking for Mark III training in PA |
| From: | "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
Rule change? There are no rules that disallow training. Nor does anyone I know
of discourage training. I don't get your point. Am I being dense?
--------
Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x32
Truth is what stands the test of experience.
- Albert Einstein
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| Subject: | Re: New Firefly owner looking for Mark III training in PA |
| From: | "Ducati SS" <hiwingflyer6219(at)yahoo.com> |
The changes that came with the light sport regs. eliminated many of the fat ultralight
/ 2 place training exemption aircraft and instructors. These were in many
cases very capable instructors that no longer meet FAA regs. Most local GA
operations are not interested in ultralight training. Training in C 150 will
not prepare one for ultralight type aircraft. IT would be expensive and time
consuming for the former ultralight instructors to comply with the new regs.
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| From: | frank goodnight <frank.goodnight(at)att.net> |
Hi all,-------- ( A Request For Help From The List)
A friend flys a 582 blue head , about 300 hrs. Recently Wall Mart
stop selling the oil he uses. He now has to buy a much higher cost oil--I think
about 8 bucks a quart. Would someone that is familuar
with this problem tell me a good oil that is reasonable , and who
sells it.
Frank Goodnight
Fire Star 2
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| From: | Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com> |
Have your friend either contact the manufacturer or a distributor of the
brand oil he uses. You should be able to find that information on the
internet.
Rick Girard
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:31 PM, frank goodnight wrote:
> Hi all,-------- ( A Request For Help From The List)
> A friend flys a 582 blue head , about 300 hrs. Recently Wall Mart
> stop selling the oil he uses. He now has to buy a much higher cost oil--I
> think about 8 bucks a quart. Would someone that is familuar
> with this problem tell me a good oil that is reasonable , and who
> sells it.
>
> Frank Goodnight
> Fire Star 2
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
--
Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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| Subject: | This may offend some |
| From: | "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com> |
This may offend some ,..... so be it, it's funny up nort.
http://dauckster.posterous.com/lutheran-airlines-fg-audio-only [Laughing]
--------
Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents
the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
These flying machines are just a fad and will never catch on Unknown
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| Subject: | Re: Gathering at Nauga Field - Nov 11, 12, 13 |
| From: | "tkben002" <tkben002(at)bellsouth.net> |
Count me in too, I do plan on coming.
Travis Bennett
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| From: | "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
Been using Phillips Injex in various Rotax engines since 1982, no problems yet.
Seems to burn cleaner than Pennzoil, and the rings are usually free and minimal
carbon on the ports. Check your yellow pages for oil distributors, ask them
if they can get whatever it is you want. It is usually cheaper by the case anyway.
--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Hebrews 11:1
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| Subject: | Re: This may offend some |
| From: | "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
I'm not offended as long as I get to set next to the hot dishes.
--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Hebrews 11:1
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| From: | "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: New Firefly owner looking for Mark III training in |
PA
We need rule change!>>
What rule?. How about `Find out something about it before you fly`.
I would have thought that fairly obvious when flying any new type.
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: New Firefly owner looking for Mark III training in PA |
| From: | "Ducati SS" <hiwingflyer6219(at)yahoo.com> |
The point here is that the lightweight 2 place aircraft formerly used as trainers
were transitioned to light sport and the 2 place training exemption eliminated.
If the instructors who provided training in those airplanes wanted to continue
they would need higher ratings. Most stopped training . Yes there is GA
training , but in many areas there is no longer access to lightweight trainers
and aircraft. As a licensed pilot ( 30+ years) Kolb builder, CGS Hawk owner and
active EAA member I can assure you that I looked into training and gathered
all the info on these airplanes that I could find. The Eaa and FAA are aware
of the situation and are working to correct it, but the newest changes are not
likely have much affect.
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| Subject: | Re: This may offend some |
| From: | "FIRESTARII" <CCMFarms(at)aol.com> |
:D Guys I spent 7 years flying for a regional airline and the only "Hot Dishes"
I ever saw came out of the microwave!!!! It's not what it used to be :( Picture
a bus driver except with longer hours and WAY LESS PAY and your getting
the idea!
--------
Low and Slow FireStar II
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| Subject: | Re: Strut Fairings |
| From: | "flyingfischead" <flyingfischead(at)yahoo.com> |
Check out this webpage if you want to make your own fairings out of foam. http://chrusion.com/BJ7/Streamline/fairings.html
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| From: | "Bob" <rmurrill(at)cox.net> |
| Subject: | Re: This may offend some |
Yup ....Inappropriate for the list and in general.......Pan Am world is long
gone .....I only care that my cabin crew is the best in the event of mishap
and that they don't pull the evacuation chute cause they are
pissed...........
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: FIRESTARII
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 1:44 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: This may offend some
:D Guys I spent 7 years flying for a regional airline and the only "Hot
Dishes" I ever saw came out of the microwave!!!! It's not what it used to
be :( Picture a bus driver except with longer hours and WAY LESS PAY and
your getting the idea!
--------
Low and Slow FireStar II
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| From: | "SS568" <david(at)PaulowniaTrees.com> |
I have downloaded the ops manual for my Rotax 582. All it says about the oil to
use is to use API TC.
Now I certainly do not want to start a "brand to use" debate.
Just what does the TC encompass.
Such as blended or straight
Multi viscosity?
Can it be labeled for motorcycle with no mention of aircraft 2cy.
TIA
David d.
--------
Kolb Mark IIIX 582 Blue head
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| From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Oil (API-TC) |
At 06:37 AM 10/14/2011, SS568 wrote:
>
>I have downloaded the ops manual for my Rotax 582. All it says about the
>oil to use is to use API TC.
>Now I certainly do not want to start a "brand to use" debate.
>Just what does the TC encompass.
>Such as blended or straight
>Multi viscosity?
>Can it be labeled for motorcycle with no mention of aircraft 2cy.
It's a industry specification for air cooled 2-stroke oil. Not multi
viscosity, that's a 4 stroke oil thing. Pennzoil aircooled oil is one
brand of API TC oil, whereas the Pennzoil marine is not (the marine oil is
TC-W3 which is for water cooled engines). Could be sold as a bike oil but
I believe most bike oils are synthetic now.
-Dana
--
When Columbus came to America, there were no taxes, no debts, and no
pollution. The women did all the work while the men hunted or fished all
day. Ever since then, a bunch of idiotic do-gooders have been trying to
"improve" the place.
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| From: | Ted <tc1917(at)bellsouth.net> |
To cover the foam on the struts you can go to a model plane shop and get coverite
fabric. It has heat sensitive glue on it. It can be painted or comes in colors.
Has anyone been blocked by barracuda(?).
Sent from my iPhone
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| Subject: | Re: Oil (API-TC) |
| From: | "SS568" <david(at)PaulowniaTrees.com> |
I went by Oriely parts store this morning. They have only one brand (not house
oil).
It said "exceeds the TC rating. It is a blended oil. Does it hurt to mix blended
or unblended as long as they are rated TC?
This brand or blended may not be available a few months down the road.
DD
--------
Kolb Mark IIIX 582 Blue head
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| From: | "b young" <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Oil (API-TC) |
I went by Oriely parts store this morning. They have only one brand (not
house oil).
It said "exceeds the TC rating. It is a blended oil. Does it hurt to mix
blended or unblended as long as they are rated TC?
This brand or blended may not be available a few months down the road.
DD
--------
Kolb Mark IIIX 582 Blue head
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
some oils are not compatable with each other and will jell up in the oil
tank causing oil starvation,,, you should try and remove all the old oil
before adding the new.
boyd young
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| Subject: | Re: Oil (API-TC) |
| From: | Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com> |
I sent this to the group in June;
Awhile back I posted a request for information about the compatibility of
Pennzoil Air Cooled two stroke oil and Pennzoil Marine two stroke oil. The
question came up again because a customer's airplane with a 582 has Air
Cooled in both the injection and rotary valve reservoirs and my stock of Air
Cooled is nearly gone.
This morning I called Shell's technical hot line (Shell Oil owns the
Pennzoil brand). The answer is, Air Cooled *CANNOT* be mixed with Marine or
any other oil that meets the TC-W3 specs. The additive packages are
incompatible and will cause coagulation. So, the systems have to be purged
of the Air Cooled oil when a change over is made (Air Cooled is no longer
available once stocks are gone, if they aren't already).
So, if you or your customers are using Pennzoil Air Cooled you might want to
start thinking about the necessary service to purge the system(s).
Rick Girard
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 9:00 AM, b young wrote:
>
>
> I went by Oriely parts store this morning. They have only one brand (not
> house oil).
> It said "exceeds the TC rating. It is a blended oil. Does it hurt to mix
> blended or unblended as long as they are rated TC?
>
> This brand or blended may not be available a few months down the road.
>
> DD
>
> --------
> Kolb Mark IIIX 582 Blue head
>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> some oils are not compatable with each other and will jell up in the oil
> tank causing oil starvation,,, you should try and remove all the old oil
> before adding the new.
>
> boyd young
>
>
--
Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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| Subject: | WTT: Yamaha WR250R for Kolb |
| From: | "Luke" <aurich85(at)yahoo.com> |
This might be a long shot but thought I'd throw it out there anyway:
I have a 2008 Yamaha WR250R dual sport motorcycle w/ ~9000 miles. Bike is equipped
with heavy duty handguards, racks and saddle bags, skidplate, tank bag, and
small saddle bags. This is the ultimate minimalist touring bike and can go pretty
much anywhere. It will take you through pretty much anything you can throw
at it offroad, and still cruise comfortably at 70MPH on the highway. It's fuel
injected, and gets about 70mpg. Oil has been changed regularly and the valves
don't need to be checked until 26k miles. New chain and front sprocket. Bike
is located in Denver, CO but am willing to haul it for the right deal.
Would like to trade straight across for a Kolb Firefly/Firestar.
--------
"The LORD is a warrior; the LORD is his name." Exodus 15:3
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| Subject: | Re: New Firefly owner looking for Mark III training in PA |
| From: | "Luke" <aurich85(at)yahoo.com> |
BTW: Love the olive drab paint job!
--------
"The LORD is a warrior; the LORD is his name." Exodus 15:3
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| From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Oil (API-TC) |
At 10:23 AM 10/14/2011, Richard Girard wrote:
>I sent this to the group in June;
>
>Awhile back I posted a request for information about the compatibility of
>Pennzoil Air Cooled two stroke oil and Pennzoil Marine two stroke oil. The
>question came up again because a customer's airplane with a 582 has Air
>Cooled in both the injection and rotary valve reservoirs and my stock of
>Air Cooled is nearly gone.
>This morning I called Shell's technical hot line (Shell Oil owns the
>Pennzoil brand). The answer is, Air Cooled CANNOT be mixed with Marine or
>any other oil that meets the TC-W3 specs. The additive packages are
>incompatible and will cause coagulation. So, the systems have to be purged
>of the Air Cooled oil when a change over is made (Air Cooled is no longer
>available once stocks are gone, if they aren't already).
>So, if you or your customers are using Pennzoil Air Cooled you might want
>to start thinking about the necessary service to purge the system(s).
Shell seems to have replaced the Air Cooled Outdoor oil with the new
"Aeroshell Sport 2" 2-stroke oil. Whether this is the same oil with a new
name, or something new, is unclear, as is whether they are compatible. I'm
trying to contact Shell to ask, but their website is messed up.
-Dana
--
New Yorkers like to boast that if you can survive in New York, you can
survive anywhere. But if you can survive anywhere, why live in New York?
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| Subject: | Re: Oil (API-TC) |
| From: | "SS568" <david(at)PaulowniaTrees.com> |
Awhile back I posted a request for information about the compatibility of Pennzoil
Air Cooled two stroke oil and Pennzoil Marine two stroke oil. The question
came up again because a customer's airplane with a 582 has Air Cooled in both
the injection and rotary valve reservoirs and my stock of Air Cooled is nearly
gone. This morning I called Shell's technical hot line (Shell Oil owns the Pennzoil
brand). The answer is, Air CooledCANNOTbe mixed with Marine or any other
oil that meets the TC-W3 specs. The additive packages are incompatible and
will cause coagulation. So, the systems have to be purged of the Air Cooled oil
when a change over is made (Air Cooled is no longer available once stocks are
gone, if they aren't already).
So, if you or your customers are using Pennzoil Air Cooled you might want to start
thinking about the necessary service to purge the system(s).
Rick Girard
Rick, with all due respect the above is still confusing. Mixing tc-w with any
air cooled is a no no. Not only the mixing but using water cooled oil in an air
cool is the problem. Now I suppose mixing could cause coagulation, but it should
not ever be used any way.
Since I am not sure of what is in the reservoir now I will drain the old out.
Now the statement about air cooled (tc) is no longer available, so what is the
intended new oil?
By the way is mixing brands allowed as long as it is TC oil?
DD
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Kolb Mark IIIX 582 Blue head
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Oil (API-TC) |
Not only the mixing but using water cooled oil in an air cool is the
problem.
DD
Folks:
Not arguing any of the above reference brands, types, etc.
We used Walmart TCW-3 for well over 1,000 hours in our 582, 503, 447, and
all the other air and watercooled two strokes, from weed whackers to
kickers, with nary a problem. Some of that oil was 15 years old.
My question is: How does a two stroke know if the oil is air cooled or
water cooled?
john h
Window Rock, Arizona
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| Subject: | Re: Oil (API-TC) |
| From: | "Eugene Zimmerman" <etzimm(at)gmail.com> |
Ok guys,
here is a resource that you may find helpful regarding your 2-stroke oil questions.
http://www.7thgear.net/7thGear/Portals/0/2%20stroke%20oil%20specs.pdf
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| Subject: | Re: Oil (API-TC) |
| From: | Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com> |
Same experience here, John. My only contact with Pennzoil Air Cooled in the
rotary valve reservoir of my 582 and in both reservoirs of a customers 582.
Whatever difference TC-W3 makes except the coagulation issue, I have no
idea.
Rick
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 1:00 PM, John Hauck wrote:
>
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> Not only the mixing but using water cooled oil in an air cool is the
> problem.
>
> DD
>
>
> Folks:
>
> Not arguing any of the above reference brands, types, etc.
>
> We used Walmart TCW-3 for well over 1,000 hours in our 582, 503, 447, and
> all the other air and watercooled two strokes, from weed whackers to
> kickers, with nary a problem. Some of that oil was 15 years old.
>
> My question is: How does a two stroke know if the oil is air cooled or
> water cooled?
>
> john h
> Window Rock, Arizona
>
>
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Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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| Subject: | Re: New Firefly owner looking for Mark III training in PA |
| From: | "mburdge39" <mburdge(at)windstream.net> |
Thanks Luke! I took a liking to it as well.
When it is nice out I am getting taxi time in the Firefly, airtime in the Cub.
When it is raining outside I am reading Stick & Rudder by Wolfgang Langewiesche
& Powered Ultralight Flying by Dennis Pagen.
My feet are starting to link up with my brain!
The Kolb "clang" is a bit annoying, any quick, easy tips for quieting those control
wires?
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Mike
Firefly
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| Subject: | Re: This may offend some |
| From: | russ kinne <russkinne(at)mac.com> |
A detail - but just to keep the List prim & proper -- perhaps say "because they
are urinated"?
On Oct 13, 2011, at 10:26 PM, Bob wrote:
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> Yup ....Inappropriate for the list and in general.......Pan Am world is long
gone .....I only care that my cabin crew is the best in the event of mishap and
that they don't pull the evacuation chute cause they are pissed...........
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> Bob
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> -----Original Message----- From: FIRESTARII
> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 1:44 PM
> To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: This may offend some
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> :D Guys I spent 7 years flying for a regional airline and the only "Hot Dishes"
I ever saw came out of the microwave!!!! It's not what it used to be :(
Picture a bus driver except with longer hours and WAY LESS PAY and your getting
the idea!
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> Low and Slow FireStar II
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| From: | WhiskeyVictor36(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Oil (API-TC) |
Here is another good report on two stroke oil:
_www.sea-doo.net/techarticles/oil/oil.htm_
(http://www.sea-doo.net/techarticles/oil/oil.htm)
Bill Varnes
Original Kolb FireStar
Audubon NJ
In a message dated 10/14/2011 2:15:40 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
etzimm(at)gmail.com writes:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Eugene Zimmerman"
Ok guys,
here is a resource that you may find helpful regarding your 2-stroke oil
questions.
http://www.7thgear.net/7thGear/Portals/0/2%20stroke%20oil%20specs.pdf
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=355026#355026
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| Subject: | Re: quieting those control wires |
| From: | "FIRESTARII" <CCMFarms(at)aol.com> |
:D Your right about them being quiet once airborne but, Dang! They sure do drive
me nuts on landing and taxi in the grass! Doesn't do much to make pax new to
little airplanes very comfortable either, nor does it inspire alot of confidence.
I once had a well qualified commercial pilot/A&P/IA tell me "Real Airplanes"
don't rattle like that....I nearly knocked the man outta the "Arm Chair"
he flies all the time! I told him "Real Airplanes" actually fly, "Arm Chairs"
do not! [Laughing] He was my father by the way. Still love him to death though
[Wink]
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Low and Slow FireStar II
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| Subject: | Re: WTT: Yamaha WR250R for Kolb |
| From: | "FIRESTARII" <CCMFarms(at)aol.com> |
:D I got a WR450 that I'd trade in a heart beat for any Kolb, flying or not!
Chances are I would live longer and have more fun doing so as Kolb's are way safer
than any motorcycle I have ever ridden. So far my FSII has not sent me to
the hospital once...motorcycle, well I am on a first name basis with the wonderful
EMS folks in my town! Fly safe everybody [Wink]
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Low and Slow FireStar II
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| Subject: | Re: New Firefly owner looking for Mark III training in PA |
| From: | "FIRESTARII" <CCMFarms(at)aol.com> |
:D High guys I am not tooting my Horne her please don't take it the wrong way.
I am a ME-CFII, ATP, and Advanced Ground Instructor and have very near nine
thousand hours in every thing you can dream up and some you've probably never
even heard of, I have been very fortunate. :D I only say this because I live
in Ohio just south of CLE near CAK. If you have access to an airplane regardless
of the type and it has dual controls I would be more than happy to donate
my time to help any Kolber transition. I will even take you up in my FSII, but
I'm not gonna let ya fly her! I love her way too much for that. I am also
open to helping out with BFR's, IPC's, transition training or any thing that
you may need. I would also be open to initial training but not for free as the
demands on my time are too significant for that. Mind you it's not for the
hours like a new CFI. I could care less about that it's simply about helping
the folks who feel they need it and to make the skies safer for all of us. Feel
free to contact me any time day or night if you need help or get stuck. I
have had a wonderful group of guys help me along the way and I simply want to
return the favor. Thanks to every body on this list and fly safe. Thanks, Seth
A. Miller
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Low and Slow FireStar II
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| Subject: | Flaps or falparon on the Firestar 11 |
| From: | "SAILNROCK" <SAILNROCK(at)verizon.net> |
Hi All
Has any one made flaps or done flaperons
like on the firefly? On the Firestar 11
And if so how did it come out and with what benefits?
Thanks Bob
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| Subject: | Re: Flaps or falparon on the Firestar 11 |
| From: | "racerjerry" <gki(at)suffolk.lib.ny.us> |
Yes, years ago I duplicated the Firefly flaperon design into my Firestar II during
construction. My main purpose was to qualify for FAR part 103; just as the
Firefly did with its shorter wings and not for a performance gain. I had shortened
my Firestar wings by eliminating the wing spar spliced in tube sections
toward the wingtips. The graph in Appendix 2 of AC 103-7 Determining Power Off
Stall Speed allowed a much better lift factor for a wing with flaps.
I was really a newbie pilot at the time and did not notice much difference in performance
with flaps or without. Also, I have not flown my Firestar in a very
long time, so I cannot give you much in the way of performance data. I suspect
that If I cleaned up the airplane with wing strut and gear leg fairings that
a difference may have been more noticeable. I did experiment once with the
flaperons adjusted to reflex them up in flight and that seemed to improve cruise
speeds somewhat but probably not worth the effort.
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Jerry King
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| From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Kolbs in Connecticut (video) |
Here's a short video of two Kolbs and a gyro fying to a fly-in in eastern
Connecticut.
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjdVvGhiAmI&hd=1>
-Dana
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| Subject: | Re: Kolbs in Connecticut (video) |
| From: | "Ozarkflyer" <lragan(at)hotmail.com> |
Link doesn't work for me.
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| Subject: | Re: Flaps or falparon on the Firestar 11 |
| From: | "FIRESTARII" <CCMFarms(at)aol.com> |
:D Thanks for posting this as it is something I have put a great deal of thought
into and an even greater lack of effort! I once saw a FSII listed on Barnstormers
with flaps and the guys claim to fame was that it was the "slowest flying
Kolb in the US". I have no idea weather that is true or not. Most GA airplanes
I have flown show a significant improvement in lift with the flaps in
the 10 to 20 degree range and any thing more than that just increases drag to
allow for a steeper approach angle. I could be wrong but I am pretty sure thats
exactly what the Cessna POH's say. For me personally, based on my pseudo dangerous
grass strip I have at my farm I see a substantial benefit from both the
increased lift as well as the steeper approach angle! Simply because it's one
way in and one way out with trees on the west end and power lines on the other.
I have big plans of a full on restoration and re power of my FSII this winter
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