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June 21, 2012 - August 13, 2012



      
      I'm running stock jets, needle, and clip position. No intake silencer, stock exhaust.
      I replaced the head, base, intake, and exhaust gaskets. I had found that
      the spark plugs were cross threaded and not sealing. I have not pressure tested,
      but this engine is very fresh 
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376207#376207
      
      
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Subject: Landing gear (axle material)
From: "dutrac" <dlrans(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jun 21, 2012
Hi Folks, I have a Kolb MKII that I've given a few hard landings. The axles have bent and I've used a hydrolic press to straighten them once. After doing so it wasn't but a couple landings later that I noticed they were pretty well bent again. I talked to a factory rep and he told me that they don't recommend straightening them more than once. Whether right or wrong, I'm going to listen to that advice and replace them both. My question to the group then is what grade of aluminum are the axles made out of? Any help is appreciated. Thanks! Duane Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376255#376255 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 21, 2012
Subject: Re: Landing gear (axle material)
From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com>
7075-T6 Rick Girard On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 5:35 PM, dutrac wrote: > > Hi Folks, > > I have a Kolb MKII that I've given a few hard landings. The axles have > bent and I've used a hydrolic press to straighten them once. After doing so > it wasn't but a couple landings later that I noticed they were pretty well > bent again. > > I talked to a factory rep and he told me that they don't recommend > straightening them more than once. Whether right or wrong, I'm going to > listen to that advice and replace them both. > > My question to the group then is what grade of aluminum are the axles made > out of? > > Any help is appreciated. > > Thanks! > Duane > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376255#376255 > > -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Slipping turn
From: "joepilot503" <joepilot503(at)hotmail.com>
Date: Jun 21, 2012
Does anybody out there with a Kolb do slipping turns from downwind to landing? I was doing them in a j-3 and want to try it in my firestar but a friend of mine didn't think it was a wise thing to do, or to be a legitimate maneuver. any feedback appreciated. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376280#376280 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Slipping turn
From: "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jun 22, 2012
I always do a high short approach and slip a good bit but not in turns. I like my turns coordinated but once on final I slip with full flaps to get down really fast. Of course the Slingshot with short wings, full flaps, and idle power sinks pretty fast without slipping. -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY (9G0) Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Tennessee Prop 64x32 Truth is what stands the test of experience. - Albert Einstein Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376304#376304 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: rotax 447 propeller recomendation high temps
From: "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org>
Date: Jun 22, 2012
Called a friend of mine yesterday who has a Flightstar with a 447 on it, and he said the only way he got it to behave and run cool was to install a Dial-A-Jet on it, and run a cable to the cockpit. -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org Kingsport, TN 3TN0 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Hebrews 11:1 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376328#376328 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 22, 2012
Subject: Re: Slipping turn
From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com>
I'm not sure why your friend thinks a slipping turn is illegitimate, but a slipping turn is only, after all, a badly coordinated turn. I've been known to make badly coordinated turns to the left or right even when I'm not on approach. :-} About the only caveat I can think of is that your ASI might read a little off with the pitot oblique to the airstream, but that can be handled by keeping the nose a little lower than you would for a yaw string centered turn. Rick Girard On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 9:39 PM, joepilot503 wrote: > > Does anybody out there with a Kolb do slipping turns from downwind to > landing? I was doing them in a j-3 and want to try it in my firestar but a > friend of mine didn't think it was a wise thing to do, or to be a > legitimate maneuver. any feedback appreciated. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376280#376280 > > -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Beauford " <beauford173(at)verizon.net>
Subject: Re: rotax 447 propeller recomendation high temps
Date: Jun 22, 2012
--------------------------------------------------- Called a friend of mine yesterday who has a Flightstar with a 447 on it, and he said the only way he got it to behave and run cool was to install a Dial-A-Jet on it, and run a cable to the cockpit. ----------------------------------- Brother Pike: That is interesting... Thought those things were just for snowmobiles. Do you have any information about how many hours he has run it and whether he has had any carbon build-up problems with it? The way I understand the DAJ set-up is that the engine is baseline jetted to run on the lean side and the DAJ then dumps extra fuel into the carb as required to compensate for the lean condition, temperature, altitude, etc. I know that enriching the mixture will make it run cooler, but I also have vivid recollections of the carbon problems which stuck the rings on my toy once before. Am a little bit carbon-shy, but very interested in what your friend has done and how long he has been using the gizmo... Thankee for the reply, sir... Wary eye on the Gulf beauford FF-076 Brandon, FL ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 22, 2012
From: <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: rotax 447 propeller recomendation high temps
> Called a friend of mine yesterday who has a Flightstar with a 447 on it, and he said the only way he got it to behave and run cool was to install a Dial-A-Jet on it, and run a cable to the cockpit. > > -------- > Richard Pike Kolbers: I realize this is ancient history, but it is all the personal info I have with the 447, which I put 755.0 hours on two of them from 1987 to 1990 in my original Firestar. Through experience I learned to leave the engine exactly like it came from the factory. What worked for me was to adjust the prop pitch so the engine would barely touch the red line for max continuous rpm, which I think was 6,500 rpm. When I did this the EGT/CHT operated in the Green. I found it very easy to chase one's tail trying to "tune" a 447. I believe the 447 was set up at the factory to operate in a 70F day from 0 to 1,500 feet ASL. With the engine remaining at factory tune, I was able to climb to 10,000 feet ASL. john h mkIII Rock House, Burns Junction, OR ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 22, 2012
From: <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: rotax 447 propeller recomendation high temps
> I know that enriching the mixture will make it run cooler, but I also have > vivid recollections of the carbon problems which stuck the rings on my > toy once before. > > Wary eye on the Gulf beauford Kolbers: I had good luck with the old point ignition, single carb 447, other than the normal operating problems of failed wrist pin bearings (which were later improved), loose coils, and difficulty keeping the points in adjustment caused by normal wear (which were upgraded to CDI ing). Have always been an advocate of not babying two stroke engines and operating at recommended cruise rpm which is 5,800 rpm, if I remember correctly. I didn't say abuse two stroke engines, but make them work to keep crank cases clear of excess oil and reduce carbon buildup in the upper end. I found there are a lot of "little things" that can affect the operation and reliability of a two stroke, many not logical or readily understandable. Having the opportunity to fly with a 4 stroke since 1994, I have a much better reliablity record. No engine failures in more than 3,000.0 hours. john h mkIII Burns Junction, OR ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 22, 2012
Subject: Re: rotax 447 propeller recomendation high temps
From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com>
Roger Lee, Rotax guru on their Matronics list has maintained that the biggest problem with Rotax engines is their owners. I've set up a few new 447's now and they run great right out of the box WHEN you set up the prop per Rotax instructions, which as John H said is to just get the prop to touch max RPM in level flight. For the 447 this is 6800 rpm and setting it for about 6400 to 6500 static will get you right there. The only, and I honestly think only two adjustments that need to made to a new 447 are fan belt tension, and, depending on your field elevation, the clip on the needle. Once the break in is accomplished, the fan belt is adjusted and the clip is reset, if needed, they run perfectly. The last one I did was on a Northwing trike. I finished the break in just after sun down and didn't get started to test fly until about 2:00 pm the next day. The temps were already in the high 100's headed for 112 that day, iirc, and the little Maverick trike broke ground in about 200 and I had pattern altitude long before I was abreast of my back yard (2300 feet from the departure end of 17). You have a little leeway in the prop adjustment to find the sweet spot for CHT and EGT. If you CHT's are on the hot side decrease the prop pitch and it should drop a bit. It it's the EGT's that are troublesome, add pitch. Pretty much what is in the Installation manual, and it seems to work just fine. Rick Girard On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 11:13 AM, wrote: > > > > I know that enriching the mixture will make it run cooler, but I also > have > > vivid recollections of the carbon problems which stuck the rings on my > > toy once before. > > > > Wary eye on the Gulf beauford > > > Kolbers: > > I had good luck with the old point ignition, single carb 447, other than > the normal operating problems of failed wrist pin bearings (which were > later improved), loose coils, and difficulty keeping the points in > adjustment caused by normal wear (which were upgraded to CDI ing). > > Have always been an advocate of not babying two stroke engines and > operating at recommended cruise rpm which is 5,800 rpm, if I remember > correctly. I didn't say abuse two stroke engines, but make them work to > keep crank cases clear of excess oil and reduce carbon buildup in the upper > end. > > I found there are a lot of "little things" that can affect the operation > and reliability of a two stroke, many not logical or readily understandable. > > Having the opportunity to fly with a 4 stroke since 1994, I have a much > better reliablity record. No engine failures in more than 3,000.0 hours. > > john h > mkIII > Burns Junction, OR > > -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 22, 2012
From: Herb Gayheart <herbgh(at)nctc.com>
Subject: Re: rotax 447 propeller recomendation high temps
and don't forget to re torque the heads ....after 1 hour...Herb At 12:13 PM 6/22/2012, you wrote: >Roger Lee, Rotax guru on their Matronics list has maintained that >the biggest problem with Rotax engines is their owners. I've set up >a few new 447's now and they run great right out of the box WHEN you >set up the prop per Rotax instructions, which as John H said is to >just get the prop to touch max RPM in level flight. For the 447 this >is 6800 rpm and setting it for about 6400 to 6500 static will get >you right there. The only, and I honestly think only two adjustments >that need to made to a new 447 are fan belt tension, and, depending >on your field elevation, the clip on the needle. Once the break in >is accomplished, the fan belt is adjusted and the clip is reset, if >needed, they run perfectly. The last one I did was on a Northwing >trike. I finished the break in just after sun down and didn't get >started to test fly until about 2:00 pm the next day. The temps were >already in the high 100's headed for 112 that day, iirc, and the >little Maverick trike broke ground in about 200 and I had pattern >altitude long before I was abreast of my back yard (2300 feet from >the departure end of 17). >You have a little leeway in the prop adjustment to find the sweet >spot for CHT and EGT. If you CHT's are on the hot side decrease the >prop pitch and it should drop a bit. It it's the EGT's that are >troublesome, add pitch. >Pretty much what is in the Installation manual, and it seems to work >just fine. > >Rick Girard > >On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 11:13 AM, ><jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> wrote: ><jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> > > > > I know that enriching the mixture will make it run cooler, but I also have > > vivid recollections of the carbon problems which stuck the rings on my > > toy once before. > > > > Wary eye on the Gulf beauford > > >Kolbers: > >I had good luck with the old point ignition, single carb 447, other >than the normal operating problems of failed wrist pin bearings >(which were later improved), loose coils, and difficulty keeping the >points in adjustment caused by normal wear (which were upgraded to CDI ing). > >Have always been an advocate of not babying two stroke engines and >operating at recommended cruise rpm which is 5,800 rpm, if I >remember correctly. I didn't say abuse two stroke engines, but make >them work to keep crank cases clear of excess oil and reduce carbon >buildup in the upper end. > >I found there are a lot of "little things" that can affect the >operation and reliability of a two stroke, many not logical or >readily understandable. > >Having the opportunity to fly with a 4 stroke since 1994, I have a >much better reliablity record. No engine failures in more than 3,000.0 hours. > >john h >mkIII >Burns Junction, OR > >========== >arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List >========== >http://forums.matronics.com >========== >le, List Admin. >="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >========== > > >-- >Zulu Delta >Mk IIIC >Thanks, Homer GBYM > >It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. > - Groucho Marx > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Beauford " <beauford173(at)verizon.net>
Subject: Re: rotax 447 propeller recomendation high temps
Date: Jun 22, 2012
Rick and John: Many thanks for your inputs, Gents. My 447 has the original factory jetting and needle is currently in second notch. The IVO turns 6050 static, 6250 in climb and 6550 WOT level. If I leave it at WOT in climb for more than a minute, the CHT will go to and through redlines. At 5800 cruise I am seeing 390 to 400 CHT and EGTs of 1080 and 1140 for the two cylinders. The plugs have a nice tan color, so I think the jetting is OK. The crankshaft seals are new, as are the intake and exhaust gaskets.. I do not suspect leaks. Based on Rick's input, on the first dry day I will unload the prop to get 6400 static and pull the needle up to see if the EGT's will stay under control. If you never hear from me again, you may assume this did not pan out. monitor the FL obits. Soggy beauford FF-076 Brandon, FL P.S. I agree with guru Roger Lee. (see below). ------------------------------------------------------ From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Girard Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: rotax 447 propeller recomendation high temps Roger Lee, Rotax guru on their Matronics list has maintained that the biggest problem with Rotax engines is their owners. I've set up a few new 447's now and they run great right out of the box WHEN you set up the prop per Rotax instructions, which as John H said is to just get the prop to touch max RPM in level flight. For the 447 this is 6800 rpm and setting it for about 6400 to 6500 static will get you right there Rick Girard Have always been an advocate of not babying two stroke engines and operating at recommended cruise rpm which is 5,800 rpm, if I remember correctly. I didn't say abuse two stroke engines, but make them work to keep crank cases clear of excess oil and reduce carbon buildup in the upper end. john h mkIII ________________________________________________________________________________
From: GALEN SHIRLEY <oneaviator(at)msn.com>
Subject: Slipping turn
Date: Jun 22, 2012
I have a fs 11 and slip on final=2C slip anywhere in the patten to lose alt itude. The Fs II handles fine in either direction. Like Rick said=2C keep the nose down to keep airspeed up or you will stall one wing. Galen Date: Fri=2C 22 Jun 2012 10:14:31 -0500 Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Slipping turn From: aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com I'm not sure why your friend thinks a slipping turn is illegitimate=2C but a slipping turn is only=2C after all=2C a badly coordinated turn. I've been known to make badly coordinated turns to the left or right even when I'm n ot on approach. :-} About the only caveat I can think of is that your ASI m ight read a little off with the pitot oblique to the airstream=2C but that can be handled by keeping the nose a little lower than you would for a yaw string centered turn. Rick Girard On Thu=2C Jun 21=2C 2012 at 9:39 PM=2C joepilot503 wrote: Does anybody out there with a Kolb do slipping turns from downwind to landi ng? I was doing them in a j-3 and want to try it in my firestar but a frie nd of mine didn't think it was a wise thing to do=2C or to be a legitimate maneuver. any feedback appreciated. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376280#376280 arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List http://forums.matronics.com le=2C List Admin. ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution -- Zulu DeltaMk IIICThanks=2C Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: rotax 447 propeller recomendation high temps
From: "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org>
Date: Jun 22, 2012
My personal experience is that if I set the prop to just bump redline in straight and level, then the EGT tends to be a bit uncooperative, but that could be the difference between the IVO and the Warp. Probably the Warp and the IVO respond differently. So I set the IVO to fall about 150-200 rpm shy of redline in level flight, and then my EGT stays constant at all rpm's. Your results may vary, that is why they are called Experimental aircraft... -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org Kingsport, TN 3TN0 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Hebrews 11:1 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376388#376388 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 23, 2012
From: <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: rotax 447 propeller recomendation high temps
> My personal experience is that if I set the prop to just bump redline in straight and level, then the EGT tends to be a bit uncooperative, but that could be the difference between the IVO and the Warp. Probably the Warp and the IVO respond differently. > -------- > Richard Pike Richard P/Folks: Works for me with Culver two blade wooden prop. Never flew the 447 with any other. I still prop all my engines the same way, two or four stroke, for best performance for me. john ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: rotax 447 propeller recomendation high temps
From: "tombaisley" <tombaisley(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Jun 22, 2012
I have had much success after trimming my prop from 66" to 62". My CHT are under 400f and my EGT are 1060f @ 5700rpm. For the must part my egt are Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376393#376393 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 23, 2012
From: "Ron @ KFHU" <captainron1(at)cox.net>
Subject: Sold my M3X
Had no choice in the matter, the move to FL and the complications and complexity of starting new there created a situation where I rather take a loss on the M3X but be free of the encumbrance of it. Gave the fellow a great deal. Maybe he will come and join the group his name is Malcolm, he already spoke with Travis so he knows that he got a screaming deal. He lives in Bisbee AZ near P04 airport. Ron @ KFLL ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 23, 2012
From: "Ron @ KFHU" <captainron1(at)cox.net>
Subject: Re: Landing gear (axle material)
those are 7075 aluminum, you better off either designing your own or getting the steel ones from the facto ron @ KFFL ---- dutrac wrote: ============ Hi Folks, I have a Kolb MKII that I've given a few hard landings. The axles have bent and I've used a hydrolic press to straighten them once. After doing so it wasn't but a couple landings later that I noticed they were pretty well bent again. I talked to a factory rep and he told me that they don't recommend straightening them more than once. Whether right or wrong, I'm going to listen to that advice and replace them both. My question to the group then is what grade of aluminum are the axles made out of? Any help is appreciated. Thanks! Duane Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376255#376255 -- Ron @ KFHU ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 23, 2012
From: "Ron @ KFHU" <captainron1(at)cox.net>
Subject: It ain't no Kolb and wish it was.
Here are a couple of videos of me flying a Challenger on another paid mission. Can't understand why people don't pay me to fly a Kolb. So far every one of the ultralight experimental I flew/fly has been not fan, as in crappy. the common denominator in all of these cases is the flexible wings. rigid stiff wings give good response for control input, it seems that many designers just don't get it. The the video Challenger yesterday. Took the short flicks with my phone, have no idea where my real camera went. I also deleted the part in the video where I was cussing the Challenger. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xhyn4yFQBU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94y47OtSihQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6J6GgsD-xUM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9A8hKXtrsQ ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Landing gear (axle material)
From: "kolbaircraft" <customersupport(at)tnkolbaircraft.com>
Date: Jun 25, 2012
The material is 7075 T651 MII would be 1.250 dia. on top Travis Kolb CO. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376585#376585 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 25, 2012
From: chris davis <capedavis(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Landing gear (axle material)
Travis and all , Isn't that the gear legs you are talking about not the axl e ? arent the axles Chromemoly?-Not Aluminum=0AChris Davis=0AKXP 503 492 hrs=0AGlider Pilot=0ADisabled from crash building Firefly=0A=0A=0A_________ _______________________=0AFrom: kolbaircraft <customersupport@tnkolbaircraf t.com>=0ATo: kolb-list(at)matronics.com =0ASent: Monday, June 25, 2012 3:45 PM =0ASubject: Kolb-List: Re: Landing gear (axle material)=0A=0A--> Kolb-List message posted by: "kolbaircraft" =0A =0AThe material is 7075 T651- MII would be 1.250- dia. on top=0A=0ATrav is=0AKolb CO.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums -======================== ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 25, 2012
Subject: All Nebraska Ultralight Gathering this weekend
From: Duane Ransdell <radiobluebook(at)gmail.com>
Hi Everyone, Late notice, but if anyone is in the area this weekend, feel free to stop by for a visit... June 29th 30th David City, Airport - ANUG Annual Nebraska Ultralight Gathering; sport planes and GA welcome. Set up and welcome Friday 29th with free pizza supper at 7:00pm for the set up crew and all the Friday fly in /trailer in people. Fly in all day Saturday, June 30th, there will no planned food on premises. Auto and 100 low lead fuel available at airport. Camping is available. Free admission for the public. Hope to see you all there for a fun and safe time! For more information visit http://www.anug.org Here is a map to the location. https://maps.google.com/maps?q=david+city+ne&hl=en&ll=41.239867,-97.132015&spn=0.08016,0.132351&hnear=David+City,+Butler,+Nebraska&gl=us&t=m&z=13 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 27, 2012
From: <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Rock House Flyin 2012
Hi Folks: We have had a lot of windy days here in SE Oregon. This morning dawned calm and clear. First landing blew the left brake line out of the caliper fitting. Luckily it was at the Rock House. Already got it fixed except for bleeding the brake. Soon as Roger H gets back from flying we'll get that done and be back in the air. Got folks here from Australia, Hawaii, Alabama, Texas, Oregon, Utah, Louisiana, and Arizona. Despite the windy days, we have had a great time visiting with old and new friends. John Galprin, the VG man is from Australia, touring the US with a Fire Fly and a converted Airstream trailer. We have enjoyed John and his stories and photos of flying agressive cross country flights all over the Land Down Under. Wish all of you could fly out and join us here. john h MKIII Rock House, OR ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: New wheels, tires, axles and brakes for my Mark II
From: "cristalclear13" <cristalclearwaters(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jun 27, 2012
It's going to take me a while to get used to looking at my Merry Dawn (Mark II Twinstar) without her tundra tires! But she lost 7 pounds in the process. A big thank you to Claude, fellow airport bum, and my dad for helping me get this changed out! I would have been lost without them. Hoping for really good weather this weekend to fly her. I think I might be a little nervous coming in for the first landing. [Wink] -------- Cristal Waters Kolb Mark II Twinstar Rotax 503 DCSI Sept 2007 Private Pilot Aug 2008 ELSA Repairman for N193Y April 2008 Rotax 2 stroke maintenance April 2009 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376726#376726 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/13_500_x_6_in_tires_rear_view_191.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/13_500_x_6_in_tires_200.jpg ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 27, 2012
From: <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Rock House Flyin 2012
> Already got it fixed except for bleeding the brake. Soon as Roger H gets back from flying we'll get that done and be back in the air. > > john h Well, Roger H got back from flying, but did not have a little hand pump oil can and 1/8" tubing to bleed the brakes. So...we scrounged up enough stuff to do the job anyhow. For a pump we used the quart ATF plastic oil bottle which we squeezed by hand hard enough to force fluid upstream. Found a gear lube bottle cap with spout to stick the tubing on. Went from 1/4" ID fuel line to 1/8" line to match up bottle to bleed valve. Read to go flying. We have Kolb Fire Fly, FS's, MKIII, Murphy Rebel, Grumman Chetah, Titan Tornado, RV7 and a Talon (Maxair clone). Us Kolb folks get along with everyone. john h Rock House, OR ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 27, 2012
From: <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: New wheels, tires, axles and brakes for my Mark II
I think I might be a little nervous coming in for the first landing. [Wink] > > -------- > Cristal Waters Don't worry. You will do great. Just fly the plane. john h mkIII Rock House, OR ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 27, 2012
Subject: Kolb fly-in at the Rock House
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>
The winds have finally subsided for a while, and I had a chance to try a Drift Video camera. I mounted mine in the best spot that I could find and stuck the drift on the nose of the Firestar so that I could get a side by side comparison. The drift was far superior. So much so that I immediately ordered one. Here is a link to my blog- http://owyheeflyer.blogspot.com/ Larry -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 27, 2012
Subject: Re: New wheels, tires, axles and brakes for my Mark II
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>
Somehow I didn't feel dirty with you winking at me. Larry On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 12:14 PM, cristalclear13 < cristalclearwaters(at)gmail.com> wrote: > cristalclearwaters(at)gmail.com> > > It's going to take me a while to get used to looking at my Merry Dawn > (Mark II Twinstar) without her tundra tires! But she lost 7 pounds in the > process. > > A big thank you to Claude, fellow airport bum, and my dad for helping me > get this changed out! I would have been lost without them. > > Hoping for really good weather this weekend to fly her. I think I might > be a little nervous coming in for the first landing. [Wink] > > -------- > Cristal Waters > Kolb Mark II Twinstar Rotax 503 DCSI Sept 2007 > Private Pilot Aug 2008 > ELSA Repairman for N193Y April 2008 > Rotax 2 stroke maintenance April 2009 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376726#376726 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/13_500_x_6_in_tires_rear_view_191.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/13_500_x_6_in_tires_200.jpg > > -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Looking for Ultrastar or Firefly
From: "floydlong" <floydlong(at)suddenlink.net>
Date: Jun 28, 2012
I'm in the Central Louisiana area and am wanting to purchase an Ultrastar or Firefly. I will travel up to 400 miles to pick up. I'm willing to put some work into the aircraft but don't want a complete project. Would rather Rotax engine. Covering must be good. If you have one or know of one sitting and needing a home, please contact. Thanks, Russell -------- Good judgement comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgement Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376789#376789 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Jmmy Hankinson" <jhankin(at)planters.net>
Subject: Looking for Ultrastar or Firefly
Date: Jun 28, 2012
I have a Firefly for sale. It is excellent condition. I live in Georgia, almost half way between Augusta and Savannah Georgia. The Firefly is hangered on a private strip at Rocky Ford, Ga If interested, call me. Jimmy Hankinson Rocky Ford, Ga. 912 863 7384 N6007L, Firefly JYL Sylvania, Ga. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 28, 2012
From: Herb Gayheart <herbgh(at)nctc.com>
Subject: Looking for Ultrastar or Firefly
Meee!! Toooo!! Mine has 26 engine hours..and 0 on airframe...can be had with open sail plane trailer...Trailer will need mods to carry wings... South Central Ky... Also have 13 hour electric start 447..new in June of 2010... Bill of sale from SMLA for engine... Herb At 05:30 PM 6/28/2012, you wrote: > >I have a Firefly for sale. It is excellent condition. > >I live in Georgia, almost half way between Augusta and Savannah Georgia. > >The Firefly is hangered on a private strip at Rocky Ford, Ga > >If interested, call me. > >Jimmy Hankinson >Rocky Ford, Ga. >912 863 7384 >N6007L, Firefly >JYL Sylvania, Ga. > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Steve Simmons" <stevesimmons(at)charter.net>
Subject: Looking for Ultrastar or Firefly
Date: Jun 28, 2012
I have a MKIIIC with new fabric with a Verner 1400 engine if you are interested call me 423-748-4336 Make offer -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of floydlong Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 12:43 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Looking for Ultrastar or Firefly I'm in the Central Louisiana area and am wanting to purchase an Ultrastar or Firefly. I will travel up to 400 miles to pick up. I'm willing to put some work into the aircraft but don't want a complete project. Would rather Rotax engine. Covering must be good. If you have one or know of one sitting and needing a home, please contact. Thanks, Russell -------- Good judgement comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgement Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376789#376789 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "pcking" <pc.king(at)comcast.net>
Subject: 3rd class medical exemption comment period ends on July 2
Date: Jun 29, 2012
Kolbers, Have you commented on the 3rd Class medical exemption request? It ends on July 2d. This link will take you directly to the comment page. PCKing http://www.regulations.gov/#!submitComment;D=FAA-2012-0350-0001 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "b young" <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com>
Subject: home from the rock house
Date: Jun 29, 2012
I got home yesterday from the rock house,,, the first 2 legs were smooth and easy flying I had to try different altitudes to find the best winds.... the last leg was a bit windy& bumpy and later in the day, the time the thermal bumps come out for a visit to add to the wind,, but it still was the best weather window until some time next week. I met some old friends, and made some new ones. thanks Larry for the gathering. boyd young ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Looking for Ultrastar or Firefly
From: "Tom O'Hara" <tohara(at)alphagraphics.com>
Date: Jun 29, 2012
I have a MKIII Classic that I need to put up for sale. Hasn't flown for about a year do to health reasons. I will get a fresh annual prior to any sale. It has 130 hours with a 582. Built well and always hangered. I got checked out by Homers test pilot and he commented how well it was built. I did not build it. More than 400 miles-- it is at Queen City Airport, XLL, Allentown, PA about 60 miles north of Philly. Make an offer-- hanger fees are killing me. Will send more info and pics if you are interested. Tom Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376842#376842 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 29, 2012
From: <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Time to Head East
Kolbers: Been a fun three weeks and now it is time to start thinking about the flight back to Alabama. This morning I flew the Owyhee Canyon with Larry Cottrell and Roger Hankins, all the other Kolbers are gone but John Gilprin. When I got back to the Rock House I did a thorough post flight inspection. Discovered the bottom #3 cylinder spark plug wire cap was loose enough to drop off the plug with a little tug from one finger. The hardened fine wire spring that rides on the plug threadsed stud had failed. Luckily, I saved two of the good caps from the last time I changed spark plug wire caps and stuck them in my little flight bag in the event this might happen. Time to start watching winds and weather between the Rock House and Gantt IAP, Alabama. A great time was had by all that attended the Rock House Kolb Flyin. Looking forward to next year. Take care, john h mkIII Rock House, Burns Junction, Alabama ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: B Box
From: John Gilpin <stolspeed(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jun 30, 2012
G'day All, Anyone have a B gearbox for sale?? JG Sent from my iPad ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: B Box
From: John Gilpin <stolspeed(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jun 30, 2012
I should add that I presently have a C box with 3.47 ratio and free-wheeling clutch and three blade Powerfin on my FireFly, but want to change to a B Box with two blade prop so I can load it in my trailer without having to take the prop off every time. JG Sent from my iPad ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: 3rd class medical exemption comment period ends on July
2
From: "R. Hankins" <rphanks(at)grantspass.com>
Date: Jul 01, 2012
Must have been a temporary glitch. I just posted my comments this morning. -------- Roger in Oregon 1992 KXP 503 - N1782C Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376982#376982 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: home from the rock house
From: "R. Hankins" <rphanks(at)grantspass.com>
Date: Jul 01, 2012
I got back from the Rock House last night. What a great fly-in. Larry and Karen were great hosts, keeping us all fed and comfortable. I enjoyed putting faces on some names from the list, making new friends and reconnecting with old friends. The flying was great as well. Here are a couple of shots from the trip: -------- Roger in Oregon 1992 KXP 503 - N1782C Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376985#376985 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/kolb_sunset_130.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/pelican_point_378.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/the_ramp_194.jpg ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 01, 2012
From: TheWanderingWench <thewanderingwench(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Back from the Rock House
As a number of Kolbers have written, the fly-in at Rock House International was absolutely outstanding. Bob Coombs (Titan Tornado) and I (Talon Typhoo n) flew there from Sandy, OR. Other than 3 GA planes, we were the only non- Kolbers to fly in. The winds were hellacious the first two days we were the re, so we had plenty of time to hangar fly and go sightseeing. Then the win ds calmed and Wednesday and Thursday were great flying days. Since it was s upposed to start weathering in at our neck of the woods, and since we wante d to camp overnight at Pelican Point (Roger Hankins sent the list a good pi cture of the airstrip there) we left on Thursday night. But we had a 20+/mp h tail wind, so we decided to keep flying, and ended up in Ontario, OR Frid ay night. Friday was good flying, but we holed up mid-days when the winds g ot fiercely thermally. Made it as far as The Dalles - on the eastern edge o f the Columbia River Gorge - before weather dictated we stop. We left the planes at The Dalles, my husband drove up to take us home, and we 'll be retrieving the planes this Thursday, since weather conditions aren't that great now.=0A=0ALarry and Karen are amazing hosts, being really laid back and relaxed and yet having everything necessary for the 19 people who were there. It was great.=0A=0AArty Trost=0ASandy, OR=0A=0A-=0Awww.Lesson sFromTheEdge.com/uladventure2009.htm=0A=0A=0A"Life's a daring adventure or nothing"=0AHelen Keller=0A=0A=0A"I refuse to tip toe through life just to a rrive safely at death." ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: home from the rock house
From: Brad Nation <nationcap(at)comcast.net>
Date: Jul 01, 2012
Where is this Rock House? I've recently joined the Kolb mail list so I don't know where this Rock House is. It looks like a nice place to fly into. Sent from my iPad Brad Nation On Jul 1, 2012, at 9:58, "R. Hankins" wrote: > > I got back from the Rock House last night. What a great fly-in. Larry and Karen were great hosts, keeping us all fed and comfortable. I enjoyed putting faces on some names from the list, making new friends and reconnecting with old friends. The flying was great as well. Here are a couple of shots from the trip: > > -------- > Roger in Oregon > 1992 KXP 503 - N1782C > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376985#376985 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/kolb_sunset_130.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/pelican_point_378.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/the_ramp_194.jpg > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 01, 2012
Subject: Re: home from the rock house
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>
42 40.419N 117 51.198W Click on hybrid. South East Oregon Larry On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 9:18 PM, Brad Nation wrote: > > Where is this Rock House? > I've recently joined the Kolb mail list so I don't know where this Rock > House is. It looks like a nice place to fly into. > > Sent from my iPad > > Brad Nation > > On Jul 1, 2012, at 9:58, "R. Hankins" wrote: > > > > > I got back from the Rock House last night. What a great fly-in. Larry > and Karen were great hosts, keeping us all fed and comfortable. I enjoyed > putting faces on some names from the list, making new friends and > reconnecting with old friends. The flying was great as well. Here are a > couple of shots from the trip: > > > > -------- > > Roger in Oregon > > 1992 KXP 503 - N1782C > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376985#376985 > > > > > > > > > > Attachments: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/kolb_sunset_130.jpg > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/pelican_point_378.jpg > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/the_ramp_194.jpg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 02, 2012
From: <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: home from the rock house
> Where is this Rock House? > I've recently joined the Kolb mail list so I don't know where this Rock House is. It looks like a nice place to fly into. > Brad Nation Bran N/Kolbers: The Rock House is located about 7 miles south of Burns Junction, Oregon. In the SE corner of the State, high desert, 4,000 MSL. It is the home of Larry C. I am loading my MKIII, getting ready to fly east this morning through: Buhl, ID Preston, ID Kemmerer, WY Rock Springs, WY Laramie, WY Goodland, KS Great Bend, KS Neosho, MO Searcy, AR Tunica, MS Columbus, MS Titus, AL With a little luck I can make it in 3 each 8 hour flight days. More realistically, will probably take 4 each 6 hour flight days. A few years ago I could make the 8 hour days easily, but at 73 years old, ain't got as much spunk as I used to have. Got about 1,900 sm to fly in 24 flight hours. Not ready to come home, but it is time. My chores are waiting on me. Will try to keep you all posted on my progress as computers and time are available. john h mkIII Rock House, near Burns Junction, OR ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: New wheels, tires, axles and brakes for my Mark II
From: "cristalclear13" <cristalclearwaters(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jul 02, 2012
John Hauck wrote: > > Don't worry. You will do great. Just fly the plane. > > john h > mkIII > Rock House, OR Thanks John. Taxi, takeoff and landing went really well Saturday morning. -------- Cristal Waters Kolb Mark II Twinstar Rotax 503 DCSI Sept 2007 Private Pilot Aug 2008 ELSA Repairman for N193Y April 2008 Rotax 2 stroke maintenance April 2009 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377075#377075 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: home from the rock house
From: "cristalclear13" <cristalclearwaters(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jul 02, 2012
John Hauck wrote: > A few years ago I could make the 8 hour days easily, but at 73 years old, ain't got as much spunk as I used to have. > > > john h > mkIII > Rock House, near Burns Junction, OR My dictionary has "John Hauck" as the definition of spunk! You are truly inspiring! -------- Cristal Waters Kolb Mark II Twinstar Rotax 503 DCSI Sept 2007 Private Pilot Aug 2008 ELSA Repairman for N193Y April 2008 Rotax 2 stroke maintenance April 2009 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377077#377077 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 02, 2012
From: frank goodnight <frank.goodnight(at)att.net>
Subject: prop
Hi All, I have a prop that I need to sell.It's a warp drive 64in 3 blade cf . Has nickel leading edges and, taper tips , bought in 2004 or 5 , 700 hrs no damage nicks, or abrasions came off a 912 uls pusher, comes with a 2 or 3in prop ext.(I'm at the house-- too hot at the hanger) can some one that uses this prop on a kolb (Kolb related E- Mail) give me an idea as to what it might be worth. Thanks Frank ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 02, 2012
From: <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: New wheels, tires, axles and brakes for my Mark II
> Thanks John. Taxi, takeoff and landing went really well Saturday morning. > > -------- > Cristal Waters I knew you would do good. john h mkIII Rock Springs, Wyoming (two more hours to fly to Laramie, WY, to spend the night) ________________________________________________________________________________
From: kinne russ <russk50(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: twinstar MK II thanks and another endless question
Date: Jul 02, 2012
Interesting that the Poles have taken over the carwash industry. By far most of the motels here are run by Indians. (not Red Indians) Smallies, and also the big chains - Hilton, Ramada, etc. They do a good job too; hardworking, honest. I think. May have a Beneteau 523 to bring up from the VI's in a couple weex. Hope so. Prolly cooler there than here! Fair winds, Russ On May 31, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Pat Ladd wrote: > their attitude is to reject claims if at all possible>> > > Hi Russ, > > I am sure that is true but speak as I find. When I flew into the barn through starting the engine when the throttle was open the insurance Company sent an assessor .It was obvious that the starboard wing had to be rebuilt. There was some discussion over possible twisting of the cage due to the backwards movement of the wing. This was decided in consultation with the Inspector and the cage was condemned. This meant a total strip of instruments etc and rebuild of the whole front end. Including the car I managed to drive the nose cone into I think that the bill was in excess of 20,000 pounds. The insurers paid up with no quibble. > > On the other hand my partner, when we had the Aerostar, was always worried because if the two of us took off with a full fuel load we were above the certified weight. The problem was not that the plane wouldn`t handle it but because if we took off overweight we were no longer classed as a `microlight` and we were into a whole new ballgame. We were a Light Aircraft and therefore outside our insured category > He was afraid that if we crunched it was a fairly simple matter to back calculate what our take off weight had been and that would be used to let the insurers of the hook. > > Incidentally I employed a couple of guys from the local carwash to wash my plane yesterday. Just to smarten it up before the prospective buyers start lining up to view it. > There are hundreds of teams of men all over the UK who have moved into disused garage sites and set up car washes. Of course the garages had sumps already built to in to stop oil and muck going down the drains. Electricity and water were laid on. Just waiting for someone to find a use for them. These guys are usually Polish. I know one lot who are Lithuanians and the guys I used are, would you believe it from Iraq. > They all do a fast and reasonably priced job.It is not easy as they are in the cold and wet all day, usually no resting facilities or shelter if it pours. I am sure the income tax is being wangled as no one knows how much money they take in a day.. Probably all sorts of `elf and safety issues being ignored as well. > We have several million unemployed in the UK but I have not found a team of car washers who are English. Makes you think. > > Cheers > > Pat > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 02, 2012
From: chris davis <capedavis(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: home from the rock house
John , Fair winds and a safe flight-, my friend . Ill be watching for you r posts. Chris=0A=0A=0AChris Davis=0AKXP 503 492 hrs=0AGlider Pilot=0ADisab led from crash building Firefly=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: "jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>=0ATo: kolb-list@matroni cs.com =0ASent: Monday, July 2, 2012 8:33 AM=0ASubject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: re.rr.com>=0A=0A=0A> Where is this Rock House? =0A> I've recently joined th e Kolb mail list so I don't know where this Rock House is. It looks like a nice place to fly into.=0A> Brad Nation=0A=0A=0A=0ABran N/Kolbers:=0A=0AThe Rock House is located about 7 miles south of Burns Junction, Oregon.- In the SE corner of the State, high desert, 4,000 MSL.- It is the home of L arry C.=0A=0AI am loading my MKIII, getting ready to fly east this morning through:=0A=0ABuhl, ID=0APreston, ID=0AKemmerer, WY=0ARock Springs, WY=0ALa ramie, WY=0AGoodland, KS=0AGreat Bend, KS=0ANeosho, MO=0ASearcy, AR=0ATunic a, MS=0AColumbus, MS=0ATitus, AL=0A=0AWith a little luck I can make it in 3 each 8 hour flight days.- More realistically, will probably take 4 each 6 hour flight days.- A few years ago I could make the 8 hour days easily, but at 73 years old, ain't got as much spunk as I used to have.=0A=0AGot a bout 1,900 sm to fly in 24 flight hours.=0A=0ANot ready to come home, but i t is time.- My chores are waiting on me.=0A=0AWill try to keep you all po sted on my progress as computers and time are available.=0A=0Ajohn h=0AmkII == ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: twinstar MK II thanks and another endless question
Date: Jul 03, 2012
May have a Beneteau 523 to bring up from the VI's in a couple weex. Hope so. Prolly cooler there than here!>> Sounds nice. Reference `cooler`. just got back from Portugal. 3 days in Lisbon, a very nice city and then a week up the Duoro from Oporto.Temperatures around 104 for 3 days. Not a wide river. In some places not much wider than the boat. Several massive dams. A couple were around 200feet high. Steep sided valley covered in vines. The port wine growing is strictly controlled and only extend s a little way up the valley. After that it is just Portuguese wine which is OK but I didn`t buy any. In fact I find that I buy mainly Australian or New Zealand or Chilean or Spanish. Nice wine at a reasonable price. No one seems interested in buying my Kolb. Bugger! Have fun Pat ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 03, 2012
From: <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: home from the rock house
---- chris davis wrote: > John , Fair winds and a safe flight, my friend . Ill be watching for your posts. Chris Thanks, Chris/Kolbers. Looks like I have my work cut out for me today. Winds are forecast for "breezy conditions out of the south from here in Laramie, WY, to Neosho, MO. I would like to make Neosho, but the winds will be the determining factor if I do or not. I have a good place to stay in the FBO at Goodland, KS, if the wind proves to strong to be comfortable and/or economical. john h mkIII Laramie, WY ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 03, 2012
Subject: Re: prop
From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com>
Frank, Does it have the plate and plastic blade blocks or the CNC machined one? Rick Girard On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 3:28 PM, frank goodnight wrote: > Hi All, > > I have a prop that I need to sell.It's a warp drive 64in 3 blade cf . Has > nickel leading > edges and, taper tips , bought in 2004 or 5 , 700 hrs no damage nicks, or > abrasions > came off a 912 uls pusher, comes with a 2 or 3in prop ext.(I'm at the > house-- too hot > at the hanger) can some one that uses this prop on a kolb (Kolb related E- > Mail) give > me an idea as to what it might be worth. > Thanks > Frank > -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 03, 2012
Subject: Re: prop
From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com>
Prop hub, that is. Rick On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Richard Girard wrote: > Frank, Does it have the plate and plastic blade blocks or the CNC machined > one? > > Rick Girard > > > On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 3:28 PM, frank goodnight wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> I have a prop that I need to sell.It's a warp drive 64in 3 blade cf . Has >> nickel leading >> edges and, taper tips , bought in 2004 or 5 , 700 hrs no damage nicks, or >> abrasions >> came off a 912 uls pusher, comes with a 2 or 3in prop ext.(I'm at the >> house-- too hot >> at the hanger) can some one that uses this prop on a kolb (Kolb related >> E- Mail) give >> me an idea as to what it might be worth. >> Thanks >> Frank >> > > > -- > Zulu Delta > Mk IIIC > Thanks, Homer GBYM > > It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. > - Groucho Marx > > -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com>
Subject: apologies
Date: Jul 03, 2012
Hi, sorry that my post in reply to a message from Russ Kine appeared on the list. I just hit reply and forgot that this list works the opposite way to all others. Sorry Pat ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: fuel pressure high
From: "cdupuis" <ctdupuis(at)maine.rr.com>
Date: Jul 03, 2012
Hi all, My fuel pressure is 11 psi at full speed on my 447. I teed the two lines off the pump together then to the single carb. What's normally done? Thanks! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377164#377164 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: kinne russ <russk50(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: twinstar MK II thanks and another endless question
Date: Jul 03, 2012
Thanx email. Dint envy you the heat but it sounds like an interesting trip. Since I dont drink wine at all, lots places aren't high on my must-see list. Fly the Kolb to CT or ME and I'll buy it! Fair winds, Russ On Jul 3, 2012, at 7:46 AM, Pat Ladd wrote: > May have a Beneteau 523 to bring up from the VI's in a couple weex. Hope so. Prolly cooler there than here!>> > > Sounds nice. Reference `cooler`. just got back from Portugal. 3 days in Lisbon, a very nice city and then a week up the Duoro from Oporto.Temperatures around 104 for 3 days. > Not a wide river. In some places not much wider than the boat. Several massive dams. A couple were around 200feet high. > Steep sided valley covered in vines. The port wine growing is strictly controlled and only extend s a little way up the valley. After that it is just Portuguese wine which is OK but I didn`t buy any. > In fact I find that I buy mainly Australian or New Zealand or Chilean or Spanish. Nice wine at a reasonable price. > > No one seems interested in buying my Kolb. Bugger! > > Have fun > > Pat > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: kinne russ <russk50(at)gmail.com>
Subject: q
Date: Jul 03, 2012
List, I apologize. That was addressed to Pat Ladd. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 03, 2012
Subject: Powerfin
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>
I would like to hear from those of you who have three blade Powerfin props. I am interested in proformance compared to two blades. Climb, cruise and how mush smoother. On or off list, your choice. Larry -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 03, 2012
From: frank goodnight <frank.goodnight(at)att.net>
Subject: Re: Powerfin
Larry, I use a 3 blade powerfin on my HKS powered firestar 2 if you remember my plane is really dragie ( no cover on the cage or under the tail ) large tires and a BRS canister under the belly. plus I carry 15 gal fuel and weigh about 250 , cruise about 55mph @ 5500 rpm, climb somewhere around 800 fpm --depend on temp . I chose a 3 blade because it gives me about 6in of clearance between prop tip and the boom. The 2blade only gave about an inch. Spent a couple of months in New Mexico And managed to get to 11,500 ft. to clear some of the mountians. Took almost 45 min. to get there and it was toped out. There was a guy in Hawai about the time I built mine that got his Hks firestar to 18,000 with a 2 blade powerfin, but he was a glider pilot and may have been riding a wave, claimed the 2 blade was the way to go. Got a couple hundred hrs. on my 3 blade, no problems , and would choose it again if I were starting over. Did Jimmy Young contact you about the air scoops--they really work-- I can't get my cht over 315 no matter long I climb @ 40mph and 5,800 rpm & 100 degrees OAT. fly safe Frank ________________________________ From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> Sent: Tue, July 3, 2012 8:32:35 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Powerfin I would like to hear from those of you who have three blade Powerfin props. I am interested in proformance compared to two blades. Climb, cruise and how mush smoother. On or off list, your choice. Larry -- If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 03, 2012
Subject: Re: Powerfin
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>
Thanks for the input. Mine is a bit cleaner, and with a two blade warp I am doing about 67 at 5500 as much as 75 at full cruise of 5800. Climb is perhaps 450 fps at 4000 feet. I did put Jimmy in touch with the guy and he got them, but he has since sold his Firestar. Thanks, Larry On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 8:31 PM, frank goodnight wrote: > Larry, > I use a 3 blade powerfin on my HKS powered firestar 2 if you remember my > plane is really dragie ( no cover on the cage or under the tail ) large > tires and a BRS canister under the belly. plus I carry 15 gal fuel and > weigh about 250 , cruise about > 55mph @ 5500 rpm, climb somewhere around 800 fpm --depend on temp . I > chose a 3 blade because it gives me about 6in of > clearance between prop tip and the boom. The 2blade only gave about an > inch. Spent a couple of months in New Mexico > And managed to get to 11,500 ft. to clear some of the mountians. Took > almost 45 min. to get there and it was toped out. > There was a guy in Hawai about the time I built mine that got his Hks > firestar to 18,000 with a 2 blade powerfin, > but he was a glider pilot and may have been riding a wave, claimed the 2 > blade was the way to go. Got a couple hundred > hrs. on my 3 blade, no problems , and would choose it again if I were > starting over. > Did Jimmy Young contact you about the air scoops--they really work-- I > can't get my cht over 315 no matter long I climb @ 40mph and 5,800 rpm & > 100 degrees OAT. > fly safe > Frank > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Larry Cottrell > *To:* "kolb-list(at)matronics.com" > *Sent:* Tue, July 3, 2012 8:32:35 PM > *Subject:* Kolb-List: Powerfin > > I would like to hear from those of you who have three blade Powerfin > props. I am interested in proformance compared to two blades. Climb, cruise > and how mush smoother. On or off list, your choice. > Larry > > -- > *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email > address before sending.* > > * > > * > > * > > * > > -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 03, 2012
Subject: Re: Powerfin
From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com>
Larry, I have both WD and a Powerfin. The WD is a three blade, the Powerfin a four with "F" blades. I ran the WD on a 582 with a 4 to 1 gearbox and the Powerfin on an HKS with the 3.54 to 1 ratio. I thought the two engines and their gearbox ratios were close enough that they would interchange so I tried them both on the 582 on my Mk III. When I put the Powerfin on the 582 would not rev past about 4200 rpm and I aborted the take off. The HKS from which the Powerfin had come would rev to 6000 in climb and 6200. By the time I repitched the Pfin to work on the 582 I lost almost ten miles per hour. I pulled two blades from the prop and repitched it for the 582 and got back 6 miles an hour. My conclusion was that the HKS has a much broader power band and the Powerfins ability to absorb it made it well suited to the engine when run with that gearbox. How well it would work with the lower ratio gearbox I do not know. On the down side, on two occasions I have learned of the fragility of the Powerfin. The first was when I forgot to put my glasses on and left them hanging from the collar of my tee shirt. The wind ripped my glasses off and they went through the prop. That cost me for two blades. A cheap pair of five buck Dollar General bifocals cost me $330 that day. The second was when I let the prairie grass get a little long in my back yard and I taxied my trike out without mowing first. Tore up the ends of all four blades and I had to go from a 68" prop to a 67 1/2" to get it cleaned up and balanced. Obviously, the second would not have happened on the Kolb, but a bolt or pin would do at least as good a job on Powerfin blades as those cheap glasses did. Rick Girard On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 8:32 PM, Larry Cottrell wrote: > I would like to hear from those of you who have three blade Powerfin > props. I am interested in proformance compared to two blades. Climb, cruise > and how mush smoother. On or off list, your choice. > Larry > > -- > *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email > address before sending.* > > * > > * > > -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 03, 2012
Subject: Re: Powerfin
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>
Thanks, I appreciate the information. The prop in question has a nick in it that has been repaired with JB weld. Not sure what caused it, rock I suppose. My two blade warp launched a pair of heavy duty dikes all the way to the roof of my hanger and down through my wing and I couldn't find a nick in either of the blades. Just thinking about faster and smoother. Probably better off where I am. Thanks Larry On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 9:16 PM, Richard Girard wrote: > Larry, I have both WD and a Powerfin. The WD is a three blade, the > Powerfin a four with "F" blades. I ran the WD on a 582 with a 4 to 1 > gearbox and the Powerfin on an HKS with the 3.54 to 1 ratio. I thought the > two engines and their gearbox ratios were close enough that they would > interchange so I tried them both on the 582 on my Mk III. When I put the > Powerfin on the 582 would not rev past about 4200 rpm and I aborted the > take off. The HKS from which the Powerfin had come would rev to 6000 in > climb and 6200. By the time I repitched the Pfin to work on the 582 I lost > almost ten miles per hour. I pulled two blades from the prop and repitched > it for the 582 and got back 6 miles an hour. My conclusion was that the HKS > has a much broader power band and the Powerfins ability to absorb it made > it well suited to the engine when run with that gearbox. How well it would > work with the lower ratio gearbox I do not know. > On the down side, on two occasions I have learned of the fragility of the > Powerfin. The first was when I forgot to put my glasses on and left them > hanging from the collar of my tee shirt. The wind ripped my glasses off and > they went through the prop. That cost me for two blades. A cheap pair of > five buck Dollar General bifocals cost me $330 that day. The second was > when I let the prairie grass get a little long in my back yard and I taxied > my trike out without mowing first. Tore up the ends of all four blades and > I had to go from a 68" prop to a 67 1/2" to get it cleaned up and > balanced. Obviously, the second would not have happened on the Kolb, but a > bolt or pin would do at least as good a job on Powerfin blades as those > cheap glasses did. > > Rick Girard > > On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 8:32 PM, Larry Cottrell wrote: > >> I would like to hear from those of you who have three blade Powerfin >> props. I am interested in proformance compared to two blades. Climb, cruise >> and how mush smoother. On or off list, your choice. >> Larry >> >> -- >> *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email >> address before sending.* >> >> * >> >> get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List >> tp://forums.matronics.com >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> * >> >> > > > -- > Zulu Delta > Mk IIIC > Thanks, Homer GBYM > > It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. > - Groucho Marx > > > * > > * > > -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 03, 2012
Subject: Re: fuel pressure high
From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com>
Are you having any problems with fuel overflowing the float bowl? The Rotax installation manual, page 15-1 shows the single outlet fuel pump (Mikuni DF44) used with the single carb engines. On page 15-2 it speaks of using an electric and pneumatic pump with a max pressure of 7 psi. Mikuni only lists the pump output and the DF52 at 35 liters per hour is over three times what the DF44 puts out. Rick Girard On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 1:53 PM, cdupuis wrote: > > Hi all, > > My fuel pressure is 11 psi at full speed on my 447. I teed the two lines > off the pump together then to the single carb. What's normally done? > > Thanks! > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377164#377164 > > -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx ________________________________________________________________________________
From: FlyColt45(at)aol.com
Date: Jul 04, 2012
Subject: Hi KOLBER'S
Hope all of you Kolb flyer's builder's, lurker's & dreamer's have a blessed and safe 4th of July. Safe trip home all - from the Rock house adventure. Love keeping up with you. Jim - presently at Camp Leatherneck - in the South (8 1/2hrs ahead of East coast time) ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Powerfin
From: "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jul 04, 2012
...Just thinking about faster and smoother... Larry, If you want faster and smoother, you could get both by buying my Slingshot, which is for sale. I might even fly it to Oregon. I am buying a half share in a Diamond Katana and can't afford overhead for 1 1/2 airplanes, since I don't have my own airstrip and hangar. -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY (9G0) Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Tennessee Prop 64x32 Truth is what stands the test of experience. - Albert Einstein Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377232#377232 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 04, 2012
Subject: Re: Powerfin
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>
That's a nice thought, but I think an unnecessary extra powerfin would be a lot cheaper. :-) Larry On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 5:36 AM, Thom Riddle wrote: > > ...Just thinking about faster and smoother... > > Larry, > If you want faster and smoother, you could get both by buying my > Slingshot, which is for sale. I might even fly it to Oregon. I am buying a > half share in a Diamond Katana and can't afford overhead for 1 1/2 > airplanes, since I don't have my own airstrip and hangar. > > -------- > Thom Riddle > Buffalo, NY (9G0) > Kolb Slingshot SS-021 > Jabiru 2200A #1574 > Tennessee Prop 64x32 > > Truth is what stands the test of experience. > - Albert Einstein > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377232#377232 > > -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "pcking" <pc.king(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Powerfin
Date: Jul 04, 2012
In boating this is called two-foot-itis. You upgrade two feet at a time until you can't find crew, the boat draws too much to sneak into the holes you enjoyed, the fuel costs too much to run it and you wind up storing an idle boat in a pricey slip. You sell it to the next guy with the disease and get out of boating. At times you wax nostalgic for the simple (cheap) trailer sailer that you took to a different lake, river or bay every weekend. PCKing ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Cottrell To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 9:10 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Powerfin That's a nice thought, but I think an unnecessary extra powerfin would be a lot cheaper. :-) Larry On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 5:36 AM, Thom Riddle wrote: ...Just thinking about faster and smoother... Larry, If you want faster and smoother, you could get both by buying my Slingshot, which is for sale. I might even fly it to Oregon. I am buying a half share in a Diamond Katana and can't afford overhead for 1 1/2 airplanes, since I don't have my own airstrip and hangar. -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY (9G0) Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Tennessee Prop 64x32 Truth is what stands the test of experience. - Albert Einstein Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377232#377232 ========== arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List ========== http://forums.matronics.com ========== le, List Admin. ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ========== -- If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 04, 2012
Subject: Re: Powerfin
From: Rick Neilsen <neilsenrm(at)gmail.com>
Larry I have a three bladed 72" model F Powerfin prop. I couldn't be happier with it. I had a 5/16 X 2 inch bolt go through it on the way back from Oshkosh. I flew the remaining 6 hours home with no further problems. A few years back I purchased a two bladed Powerfin hub to just try it with two blades. The prop vibrated so bad I cut the first flight short and sold the two blade prop hub. Rick Neilsen Redrive VW powered MKIIIC On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 9:10 AM, Larry Cottrell wrote: > That's a nice thought, but I think an unnecessary extra powerfin would be > a lot cheaper. :-) > Larry > > On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 5:36 AM, Thom Riddle wrote: > >> >> ...Just thinking about faster and smoother... >> >> Larry, >> If you want faster and smoother, you could get both by buying my >> Slingshot, which is for sale. I might even fly it to Oregon. I am buying a >> half share in a Diamond Katana and can't afford overhead for 1 1/2 >> airplanes, since I don't have my own airstrip and hangar. >> >> -------- >> Thom Riddle >> Buffalo, NY (9G0) >> Kolb Slingshot SS-021 >> Jabiru 2200A #1574 >> Tennessee Prop 64x32 >> >> Truth is what stands the test of experience. >> - Albert Einstein >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377232#377232 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ========== >> arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List >> ========== >> http://forums.matronics.com >> ========== >> le, List Admin. >> ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> ========== >> >> >> >> > > > -- > *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email > address before sending.* > > * > > * > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Powerfin
From: "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jul 04, 2012
Larry, Much soul searching has gone before deciding to sell the Slingshot. For personal fun flight, it is hard to beat and the Jabiru (much later model than the one John W had) is a fine, powerful, lightweight, very fuel efficient, easy and cheap to maintain engine. However, I'm not a camping flyer like John H and a few other Kolbers and want to start making some trips to Atlanta to see my daughter and grandson, as well as a few other places. So, the Slingshot is for sale. If I were more financially well endowed, I'd certainly keep it and buy into the Katana as well, but such is not the case. Anyone who has ever thought they would like a Slingshot, this one, built by LuRay Wechter, is as fine an example as one could ever find. See barnstormers.com for my ads. Sorry for the sales pitch; it did not start out that way but sort of ended up as such. -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY (9G0) Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Tennessee Prop 64x32 Truth is what stands the test of experience. - Albert Einstein Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377261#377261 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 04, 2012
Subject: Re: Powerfin
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>
Personally I think that it should be offered on the list first to give us that love the planes the first chance. I would love to have it, but one is all I can handle at a time. Larry On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Thom Riddle wrote: > > Larry, > Much soul searching has gone before deciding to sell the Slingshot. For > personal fun flight, it is hard to beat and the Jabiru (much later model > than the one John W had) is a fine, powerful, lightweight, very fuel > efficient, easy and cheap to maintain engine. However, I'm not a camping > flyer like John H and a few other Kolbers and want to start making some > trips to Atlanta to see my daughter and grandson, as well as a few other > places. So, the Slingshot is for sale. If I were more financially well > endowed, I'd certainly keep it and buy into the Katana as well, but such is > not the case. > > Anyone who has ever thought they would like a Slingshot, this one, built > by LuRay Wechter, is as fine an example as one could ever find. See > barnstormers.com for my ads. Sorry for the sales pitch; it did not start > out that way but sort of ended up as such. > > -------- > Thom Riddle > Buffalo, NY (9G0) > Kolb Slingshot SS-021 > Jabiru 2200A #1574 > Tennessee Prop 64x32 > > Truth is what stands the test of experience. > - Albert Einstein > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377261#377261 > > -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Nick Cassara" <nickc(at)mtaonline.net>
Subject: Pitot tube placement on a Firestar....
Date: Jul 04, 2012
Hello Kolbers, I am wondering where you Firestar pilots have your pitot tubes located. I am building the Kolbra prototype kit which has a Firestar noise. The pitot tube was installed straight out the noise and appears to have only stuck out about a =BD inch. Based on the recent pitot tube discussion, this location does not sound ideal, unless I stick a 6=92=92 or longer tube out in to hopefully undisturbed air. So I was wondering where Firestar owners have their pitot tubes mounted? Under the nose seems like a good spot=85? Thanks for your thoughts, Nick Cassara Palmer Alaska ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Video Montage
From: "Dan Breitigam" <dbrtgm(at)me.com>
Date: Jul 04, 2012
Hey gang, I put together this collection of clips from my last three flights over the last week or so. I did it mainly for my parents in California but thought there may be a few on the list who might enjoy it also. Here is the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcZrhczMlSk Dan Breitigam Chattanooga TN Original Kolb Twinstar/503 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377287#377287 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: fuel pressure high
From: "cdupuis" <ctdupuis(at)maine.rr.com>
Date: Jul 04, 2012
Hi, Nothing leaking from the bowl. This is my first 447 and the dual outlet is what's shown on the firefly drawing and what LEAF sent me w/ the engine. Can you plug one outlet or is it better to go w/ the smaller pump? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377289#377289 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 04, 2012
From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Pitot tube placement on a Firestar....
A lot of planes in this class (not just Kolbs) have the 1/2" stub out the front of the nose, with a 6" or so extension joined with a piece of flexible tubing. This gets it farther out front but saves it from damage if it gets hit. Put it under the nose and I think you'll get too much variation with pitch, unless it's well forward. -Dana At 02:13 PM 7/4/2012, Nick Cassara wrote: >I am wondering where you Firestar pilots have your pitot tubes located. I >am building the Kolbra prototype kit which has a Firestar noise. The pitot >tube was installed straight out the noise and appears to have only stuck >out about a =BD inch. Based on the recent pitot tube discussion, this >location does not sound ideal, unless I stick a 6 or longer tube out in to >hopefully undisturbed air. So I was wondering where Firestar owners have >their pitot tubes mounted? Under the nose seems like a good spot&? -- Error: Keyboard not attached. Press F1 to continue. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 04, 2012
From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: fuel pressure high
At 06:31 PM 7/4/2012, cdupuis wrote: >Nothing leaking from the bowl. This is my first 447 and the dual outlet >is what's shown on the firefly drawing and what LEAF sent me w/ the >engine. Can you plug one outlet or is it better to go w/ the smaller pump? Plugging one outlet or teeing them both together makes no difference as far as pressure is concerned. Going to the smaller pump will also make no difference; the pressure is what the pulse pressure is from the crankcase. 11 psi does sound rather high; are you sure your pressure gauge is reading correctly? Or do you also have an electric pump in line? -Dana -- Error: Keyboard not attached. Press F1 to continue. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 05, 2012
From: <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Video Montage
> I put together this collection of clips from my last three flights over the last week or so. > > Dan Breitigam That's Collegedale Airport. Usually land there on the way to the Kolb Company. john h mkIII Neosho, MO (Made it across Kansas today despite the headwinds and heat. Should be home tomorrow weather permitting.) ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pitot tube placement on a Firestar....
From: "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jul 05, 2012
My Slingshot (same nose cone as Firestar) has the pitot/static tube mounted below the nose cone with an extension out about 6" or so ahead of the nose cone tip, using a flexible hose connection. It works very well there. The static port alone did not provide accurate airspeed but with that static port combined with a Tee opening in the static line behind the instrument panel, the IAS equals TAS at about 3,000-3500' density altitude, my typical summer time flight conditions. Higher than that it reads low, lower it reads higher than TAS. -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY (9G0) Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Tennessee Prop 64x32 Truth is what stands the test of experience. - Albert Einstein Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377319#377319 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Video Montage
From: "Dan Breitigam" <dbrtgm(at)me.com>
Date: Jul 05, 2012
Hi John H, Yes, it's Collegedale airport. There are two kolbers that fly around here and two more at Dallas Bay a few miles away. The folks at Second Chance tell me you and I have the same soft pack parachute mounted between the wings and that you helped design it. It would be great to meet you when you stop in next time. I wish you well with your return trip! Dan Breitigam Collegedale, TN Original Kolb Twinstar/503 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377320#377320 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 05, 2012
From: <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Video Montage
---- Dan Breitigam wrote: > It would be great to meet you when you stop in next time. I wish you well with your return trip! > > Dan Breitigam Dan B/Kolbers: Used to refuel at Dallas Bay, back when the elderly couple were running the FBO, but that has been many years ago. In 1991, I came up with the idea of mounting the balistic parachute in the center section. Worked with John Dunham of 2d Chantz Parachutes on the design. Built a partial center section, shipped it to John to get the measurements correct. Only problem I had with the installation was the exit door. Never could get it to seal permanently, plus the rocket extended above the top of the center section. Later I got a BRS, who had frangible hair cell plastic sheet (black) to use for the exit hole. I lowered the rocket 5" which allowed riveting and sealing with silicone seal. The rocket fires through the plastic. Only problem with this plastic is UV. Eventually the plastic must be replaced when it starts cracking. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama (Getting ready to take off for hauck's holler and Gantt International Airport, Alabama). ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 05, 2012
Subject: Re: Pitot tube placement on a Firestar....
From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com>
Nick, My Mk IIIC has the 1/2" stick out, smack dab in the middle of the nose bowl. Ken Holle's Mk IIIX has the pitot mounted under the nose using this; http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/inpages/unheatedptubes4.php , although it has been shortened so it only extends about 2" below the bottom of the nose. For what it's worth, I've flown both aircraft in 12 to 15 mph crosswinds, done slips, dives and slow flight and I don't see any difference between the airspeed readings in either aircraft. The thing that does seem to make a difference is the static source. Both aircraft had had the static port simply vented into the cockpit by their original builders. Once this was corrected by making a simple two rivet static source that sample outside air, the C has two, one on each side of the nose the X has one located near the pitot, the ASI on both reads steady regardless of aircraft orientation. Rick Girard On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Nick Cassara wrote: > Hello Kolbers,**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > I am wondering where you Firestar pilots have your pitot tubes located. I > am building the Kolbra prototype kit which has a Firestar noise. The pito t > tube was installed straight out the noise and appears to have only stuck > out about a =BD inch. Based on the recent pitot tube discussion, this > location does not sound ideal, unless I stick a 6=92=92 or longer tube ou t in > to hopefully undisturbed air. So I was wondering where Firestar owners ha ve > their pitot tubes mounted? Under the nose seems like a good spot=85?**** > > ** ** > > Thanks for your thoughts,**** > > ** ** > > Nick Cassara**** > > Palmer Alaska**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > > -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "b young" <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com>
Subject: difference between my altimiter and gps
Date: Jul 05, 2012
The one instrument that does vary is my MicroTim, a little altimeter. I got the model with no connection to the pitot, just a little hole in the housing, and after takeoff it's always a couple of hundred feet different from my Garmin GPS. With the semi- enclosed cockpit there apparently is reduced pressure at the instrument panel. I have to be careful there because a lot of my flying is under the 22 or 19 ceiling of ABE's airspace so I place my trust in my GPS there. dave and kolbers... it seems I always have a 150 to 200 ft difference between my altimeter and gps... the gps reads high... so the last time I flew by an atc, I explained the difference and asked what altitude my mode c blind encoder was reporting via the transponder. they replied the exact reading on my altimeter, best I can figure, is my blind encoder and altimeter are connected to the same static source, and it is running a bit high in pressure. the static source is a small tube with a hole drilled through both sides... maybe a small washer soldered on the tube just before the holes, has anyone had experience with this problem. boyd young ________________________________________________________________________________
From: kinne russ <russk50(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: difference between my altimiter and gps
Date: Jul 05, 2012
FWIW in my limited experience, I've found GPS elevations unreliable, except for the military units. And found to my surprise a GPS won't read thru heavy snowfall! Russ K On Jul 5, 2012, at 1:02 PM, b young wrote: > The one instrument that does vary is my MicroTim, a little altimeter. I got the model with no connection to the pitot, just a little hole in the housing, and after takeoff it's always a couple of hundred feet different from my Garmin GPS. With the semi- enclosed cockpit there apparently is reduced pressure at the instrument panel. I have to be careful there because a lot of my flying is under the 22 or 19 ceiling of ABE's airspace so I place my trust in my GPS there. > dave and kolbers... > > it seems I always have a 150 to 200 ft difference between my altimeter and gps... the gps reads high... so the last time I flew by an atc, I explained the difference and asked what altitude my mode c blind encoder was reporting via the transponder. they replied the exact reading on my altimeter, best I can figure, is my blind encoder and altimeter are connected to the same static source, and it is running a bit high in pressure. the static source is a small tube with a hole drilled through both sides... maybe a small washer soldered on the tube just before the holes, has anyone had experience with this problem. > > boyd young > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 05, 2012
From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Pitot tube placement on a Firestar....
At 10:41 AM 7/5/2012, David Kulp wrote: >Kolbers, > >Adjust my data base if it's schewed, but I don't see how a change in pitch >would make a difference. When you pitch up or down, except for maybe a >moment or two before the inertia of the original pitch has been overcome, >your AS is still relative to the air passing as you fly through it. Your >ASI doesn't know if you're flying upward or downward, only that you're >cutting through the air at a certain MPH or KPH. The only exception I >would foresee is if you're slow flying, you're on the threshold of a stall >and your angle of attack is extreme . If you have a short pitot tube mounted close under the nose, as AOA increases the pressure will build up under the nose, and cause a higher airspeed reading. -Dana -- Resist militant "normality" -- A mind is a terrible thing to erase. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Made it home yesterday
Date: Jul 06, 2012
Kolbers: What a great way to spend a month. Returned home from the Rock House, 7 miles south of Burns Junction, Oregon, yesterday at 1630 hrs, after departing Monday morning about 0800 hrs. Had a great return flight despite high winds blowing the wrong direction and extremely high heat from Buhl, ID, all the way home. The MKIII continues to impress me after flying it for 20 years and 3,274.2 hours. BTW the current Rotax 912ULS has 615.7 hours. The only mechanical problem I had during the 27 day trip was a brake line that blew off the caliper fitting while making a hard stop at the Rock House. This would not have happened had I done a little maintenance on that line after my crash at Muncho Lake, BC, 1 Jul 2000, 12 years prior. Despite the fact we had no pump oil can to bleed the left brake, with the help of a half dozen Kolb "experts" we were able to bleed it on the first attempt by jury rigging a hose system to match the quart bottle of ATF fluid and the bleed valve on the caliper. Never give up. ;-) Tooke me 6 days to fly west (4 flying and two weather days) and 4 days to fly east. This year's flight a total of 10 days both ways compared to 18 days out and back last year. For those that are interested in numbers: Cross country: 3,796 sm Local miles flown Rock House: 331.5 sm Engine time: 47.7 hrs cross country 3.9 hrs local Rock House Total engine time: 51.6 Actual cross country flight time (per Garmin 196): 44.5 hrs Ave ground speed west: 84.35 mph Ave ground speed east: 86.27 mph Local flight time Rock House: 3.9 hrs Fuel burn west: 135.0 gals Fuel burn east: 135.4 gals Fuel burn local time Rock House: 22.0 gal Total fuel burn: 292.4 gal Approximate fuel cost: $1,608.20 And as John W used to impress on me, "Don't worry about how much it cost. You can't fly without it. Fill up the tank and go have fun!" We all miss you Kolbra Pilot!!! john h hauck's holler, Titus, Alabama ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Made it home yesterday
From: David Kulp <undoctor(at)ptd.net>
Date: Jul 06, 2012
John, ATF fluid Ok for the brakes? Got bubbles on one side and must bleed it. Flew into Braden and mechanic said to bring container for aircraft fluid, but if ATF is OK ... Dave Kulp Sent from my iPhone On Jul 6, 2012, at 11:46 AM, "John Hauck" wrote: > > Kolbers: > > What a great way to spend a month. > > Returned home from the Rock House, 7 miles south of Burns Junction, Oregon, > yesterday at 1630 hrs, after departing Monday morning about 0800 hrs. Had a > great return flight despite high winds blowing the wrong direction and > extremely high heat from Buhl, ID, all the way home. > > The MKIII continues to impress me after flying it for 20 years and 3,274.2 > hours. BTW the current Rotax 912ULS has 615.7 hours. > > The only mechanical problem I had during the 27 day trip was a brake line > that blew off the caliper fitting while making a hard stop at the Rock > House. This would not have happened had I done a little maintenance on that > line after my crash at Muncho Lake, BC, 1 Jul 2000, 12 years prior. Despite > the fact we had no pump oil can to bleed the left brake, with the help of a > half dozen Kolb "experts" we were able to bleed it on the first attempt by > jury rigging a hose system to match the quart bottle of ATF fluid and the > bleed valve on the caliper. Never give up. ;-) > > Tooke me 6 days to fly west (4 flying and two weather days) and 4 days to > fly east. This year's flight a total of 10 days both ways compared to 18 > days out and back last year. > > For those that are interested in numbers: > > Cross country: 3,796 sm > > Local miles flown Rock House: 331.5 sm > > Engine time: 47.7 hrs cross country > > 3.9 hrs local Rock House > > Total engine time: 51.6 > > Actual cross country flight time (per Garmin 196): 44.5 hrs > > Ave ground speed west: 84.35 mph > > Ave ground speed east: 86.27 mph > > Local flight time Rock House: 3.9 hrs > > Fuel burn west: 135.0 gals > > Fuel burn east: 135.4 gals > > Fuel burn local time Rock House: 22.0 gal > > Total fuel burn: 292.4 gal > > Approximate fuel cost: $1,608.20 > > And as John W used to impress on me, "Don't worry about how much it cost. > You can't fly without it. Fill up the tank and go have fun!" We all miss > you Kolbra Pilot!!! > > john h > hauck's holler, Titus, Alabama > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Made it home yesterday
Date: Jul 06, 2012
John, ATF fluid Ok for the brakes? Dave Kulp Dave K/Kolbers: I don't know about your brakes. I have MATCO brakes and have been using ATF in them for the past 3,200+ hours. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 06, 2012
From: Phil <phactor9(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Made it home yesterday
I have Black Max hydraulics and was told by them that any hydraulic fluid ( not brake fluid) is ok. I asked "Hydraulic Jack Oil from Ace?" (black plast ic 20 oz squeeze bottle with a capped snout) and they said "sure". Phil H. --- On Fri, 7/6/12, John Hauck wrote: From: John Hauck <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Made it home yesterday Date: Friday, July 6, 2012, 1:28 PM John,- ATF fluid Ok for the brakes?--- Dave Kulp Dave K/Kolbers: I don't know about your brakes. I have MATCO brakes and have been using ATF in them for the past 3,200+ hours. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama le, List Admin. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Made it home yesterday
Date: Jul 06, 2012
I have Black Max hydraulics and was told by them that any hydraulic fluid (not brake fluid) is ok. I asked "Hydraulic Jack Oil from Ace?" (black plastic 20 oz squeeze bottle with a capped snout) and they said "sure". Phil H. Sounds good to me. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Anti-seize/heat conductant for spark plugs
From: "Watkinsdw" <david.watkins0(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jul 06, 2012
What are folks using for heat conductant/anti-sieze for spark plugs on the Rotax 912ULS? I've been told that regular anti-seize is ok, but the Rotax site strongly warns against it. The "authorized" stuff is very expensive. An alternative I heard of is computer heat conductant available at Radio Shack. Your thoughts? Dave Watkins, MkIII KPMP Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377446#377446 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Anti-seize/heat conductant for spark plugs
Date: Jul 06, 2012
An alternative I heard of is computer heat conductant available at Radio Shack. Your thoughts? Dave Watkins, I know you all get tired of me saying this but.....after flying the 912 series engines for more than 3,000.0 hours, I have used nothing but Rawn silicone based heat sink on my spark plugs. Same stuff I use on my computers. I little bit goes a long ways. In fact, on my 1993 912 80 hp it was not called for until later in its life, or it may have been when I got the first 912ULS. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Made it home yesterday
Date: Jul 06, 2012
Good to hear your trip went well. Now you've got your fix for a while. likely a short while.... Dave Kulp Dave K/Kolbers: A trip like that will last a long time. Probably until next year to fly to Lakeland. Now it's time to hook up the 5th wheel and utility trailer, load up the ATV and head back out West again for 3 months. This time I will be looking for cooler weather and I know where to go to get that, plus a few hot springs. ;-) john h mkIII Titus, Alabama ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 06, 2012
Subject: Firefly For Sale, Malvern, PA
From: Charles Davis <ceddavis(at)gmail.com>
The Firefly is a wonderful a wonderful plane, a real joy to fly. However, reality is I have don't have time for it any more, so it's been posted on Barn Stormers. It's been my privileged to own this plane, spend hundreds of hours flying and working on it, solo in it, and experienc many special moments. I owe a real "Thanks" to Homer and Dennis, and all the wonderful Kolbers in PA, NJ, MD, and beyond it's been my privileged to meet, especially Terry, Willie, "The Zimmermans", George Alexander, and John (no last name required). Referrals are welcome; Please pass along to anyone who may be interested. Chuck ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Anti-seize/heat conductant for spark plugs
From: "Watkinsdw" <david.watkins0(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jul 07, 2012
Thanks, John. I'll get some Raun. Also, thanks for the Rock House trip report. I hope to make a long trip myself when I retire next year. Till then, my better half and I will be taking some trips around Florida, her in the car with camping gear, me in the Kolb, finding fun places in the northern part of the state with the campground as a base of operations for exploring in the Kolb. On another topic, I ocasionally have to bleed my brakes due to a small amount of air accumulating in the left line. I'm running low on the brake fluid that Steve Green supplied me with the aircraft, labeled "Matco brake fluid" so I called Matco and asked about using ATF, and they said that any red, petroleum based ATF is fine. No need to purge whatever red stuff was previously in the system. Ching Ching, another opportunity to save a little money. Thanks for your ideas! Dave MkIIIc KPMP Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377484#377484 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Anti-seize/heat conductant for spark plugs
Date: Jul 07, 2012
. Ching Ching, another opportunity to save a little money. Thanks for your ideas! Dave Got an email from Steven Green last night. I know his MKIII is a traveler. He flew with me to Monument Valley, UT, in 2008, I believe. He also did the Outer Banks, NC, flight with us in 2003 (?) when the MKIII was powered with a 582. I'm sure that particular MKIII still has a lot of cross country flights left in it. I got started building and flying Kolbs in 1984, because I did not have any money. I needed something strong, reliable, safe, and inexpensive. In order to save money I had to learn from others and discover my own ways to do things cheaper and better. I still have that same attitude. I think I made a good choice back then. My MKIII continues to be an excellent, safe, reliable aircraft. It does exactly what I want and need in an airplane. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Seafoam
Date: Jul 07, 2012
Pics of N33040 on floats sent to you via private email. Not sure how to put pics up on Matronics.com Kolb List or if anyone else was even interested. I think using Sea Foam is like driving a vehicle that has just been washed/detailed it just =98rides better=99 Jack in Key West Us Kolbers love photos. All you have to do is attach them to the email and you are good to go. Here is an example. Roger Hankins and Larry Cottrell flying to the Owyhee River Canyon and Jordan Creek Canyon during the Rock House Kolb Flying 2012. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Fight West 2012
Date: Jul 07, 2012
This is the first photo I took right after takeoff from Gantt International Airport, Alabama. See how fast you can cruise with a 912ULS on a MKIII. ;-) Too bad that ground speed did not last all the way to the Rock House. Ground speed upper right and distance to destination lower right. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Flight West 2012
Date: Jul 07, 2012
It was raining hard right after takeoff from home. My first stop was scheduled for Monroe County Airport, Mississippi. I got to within 1 mile of the airport, but visibility was down to zero. My first leg of the Flight West 2012 was from Gantt to Tunica, Mississippi, a 3 hour leg. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Anti-seize/heat conductant for spark plugs
From: "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Jul 07, 2012
Hi Dave, Anti-seize should not be put on 912 plugs and is old school. Even the GA guys around me are switching over and away from anti-seize which has no other redeeming quality in this secario than to lube the threads. It was in a Rotax SB a long time ago and I would have to look, but may be in the maint. manual. The proper chemical is thermal conducting compound, it's a heat sync and it is silicone based. It does a couple of things. Takes up gaps within the threads, lubes the threads, but the number one thing is make the heat between the plugs and heads more even. You can buy this paste at most electronics shops or on line from CPS, Leading Edge or Lockwood. Or here: http://www.cps-parts.com/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=245 The the CTflier.com website under maint. pics and videos there is a good video. When using the paste a little is more. In other words don't glob it on. It will spread with just a little. Keep the paste on the top 2/3 of the threaded area. Any that you get on the electrode tip will cause some mis-firing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgYcUuPZLrs -------- Roger Lee Tucson, Az. Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated Rotax Repair Center - Heavy Maint. Rated Home 520-574-1080 TRY HOME FIRST Cell 520-349-7056 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377491#377491 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Flight West 2012
Date: Jul 07, 2012
Crossing the mighty Mississippi River. 2d leg of flight west. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Fight West 2012
Date: Jul 07, 2012
"Ground speed upper right and distance to destination lower right." Shoulda read lower "LEFT". Sorry 'bout that. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Flight West 2012
Date: Jul 07, 2012
Apologize for the obvious mistake sending a 2 mb file to the List. Thought it was this one. john h ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Jack Lockamy" <jacklockamy(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Kolb Mark III Classic on Puddlejumper Floats
Date: Jul 07, 2012
Attached are a few photos of N33040 (was N799AT before special FAA assignment of the Key West zip code) being fitted with 15=92 Puddlejumper Floats. I am currently in the process of installing the nose wheel assembly not shown in these photos. Will upload more pics when the final assembly of the nose wheel, floats, controls and wings are re-fitted. BTW=85 homemade A-Frame hoist in the photos is used to lift the M3C to install/remove the floats and re-install the factory main gear. Takes about =BD hour=85 Have a great weekend! It=92s HOT and HUMID in the Florida Keys and the mosquitoes are HUNGRY this morning! Jack Lockamy Key West, FL 33040 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 07, 2012
From: David Kulp <undoctor(at)ptd.net>
Subject: Re: difference between my altimiter and gps
Boyd, I guess it's human nature but I blindly trusted the hugely expensive satellites and technology of our military over my little plastic MicroTim. May be a naive choice! I'll check it further to find out. Thanks. BTW, that little tail wheel you sent me after my flying system flipped on its side in the hurricane just follows me all over the sky. Great bunch of guys and gals on this list, and you're one!!! Dave Kulp Bethlehem, PA FireFly 11DMK On 7/5/2012 1:02 PM, b young wrote: > The one instrument that does vary is my MicroTim, a little altimeter. > I got the model with no connection to the pitot, just a little hole in > the housing, and after takeoff it's always a couple of hundred feet > different from my Garmin GPS. With the semi- enclosed cockpit there > apparently is reduced pressure at the instrument panel. I have to be > careful there because a lot of my flying is under the 22 or 19 ceiling > of ABE's airspace so I place my trust in my GPS there. > dave and kolbers... > it seems I always have a 150 to 200 ft difference between my altimeter > and gps... the gps reads high... so the last time I flew by an atc, > I explained the difference and asked what altitude my mode c blind > encoder was reporting via the transponder. they replied the exact > reading on my altimeter, best I can figure, is my blind encoder > and altimeter are connected to the same static source, and it is > running a bit high in pressure. the static source is a small tube with > a hole drilled through both sides... maybe a small washer soldered > on the tube just before the holes, has anyone had experience with > this problem. > boyd young > * > > > * ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Pitot tube placement on a Firestar....
Date: Jul 07, 2012
BTW, I have a static port on each side of the nose but am only connected to one. I'm going to hook up to both and see if it makes a difference, especially in the effect buffeting winds have on my ASI, since two ports effectively average out the pressure on both sides. MUCH TOO HOT TO FLY TODAY!!! Smooth air and cool breezes.... someday! Dave Kulp Dave K/Kolbers: I started out with one static port on the side of my nose cone on my original FS. It worked great if I kept the FS perfectly trimmed. Of course, I couldn't do that. So...I would pressurize the system one way and create a vacuum the other. I added another static port on the opposite side and T'd them to the static system. Worked great whether trimmed up in yaw or not. I might add, the static port you use can also create pressure or vacuum depending on the design. Mine were turned out of 6061 aluminum. The port was about 1/16" thick on the side of the nose pod. This created a vacuum and the ASI read high. Honed a little off the forward edge of the 1/16" holes on each port to equalize the system. It worked. My MKIII uses a government surplus Kohlsman pitot/static system designed for PT-17's during WWII. It is nickel plated brass. Was still wrapped in cosmoline and oiled paper when I got it. Think I paid about 10.00 for it from Wag Aero. Thought it would cure my static pressure problems, but it didn't. Static system was pressurizing. To fix that problem I experimented with aluminum tubing connectors with different size bleed holes in them. Flew a to and from course at constant indicated air speed, compared to the GPS ground speed until I got the static system calibrated. That was 20 years ago. Occasionally, I have to recalibrate the system to get it right on the correct indicated airspeed. Works for me and didn't cost anything except a little gas to go fly to calibrate. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Seafoam
Date: Jul 07, 2012
I always toss a cap full of Marvel Mystery oil over my left shoulder before I fly... Works for me...!! Herb Used two quarts of MMO on my recent flight West. One going and one returning. Didn't know about tossing it over my left shoulder or I would have tried that also. I have been using MMO for many, many years. Could care less if anyone else uses it or not, but it works for me. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 07, 2012
From: David Kulp <undoctor(at)ptd.net>
Subject: I posted some videos.
Kolb drivers,I In May I got a hat cam to take some videos so those who want can take a ride with me and share the joy. I'm a cinematographer-in-training, so, being my first attempt, the vids aren't perfect yet. But you'll get the idea. They are the beginning and end of two flights. The grass was very high so my takeoff roll was longer than normal and it was a gusty, choppy day, so I was bouncing around quite a bit. No smooth air all day!! The static in my headset from my strobe was driving me nuts on my first flight, just so you can share my frustration. I called Dick Kuntzleman of Kuntzleman Electronics and he gave me some pointers on how to eliminate it. Next time up (next week AFTER the 95 - 100 degree temps!!) I'm going to see how well they work. Here be the links for a ride in my FlagFly. Dave Kulp Bethlehem, PA 11DMK https://vimeo.com/45266353 https://vimeo.com/45267909 https://vimeo.com/45269541 https://vimeo.com/45269542 Sorry about my socks. ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Kolb Mark III Classic on Puddlejumper Floats
From: "Rex Rodebush" <jrrodebush(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jul 07, 2012
Jack, Those floats and your plane really look nice. Do you have any idea of what the extra weight will be with the floats? Rex Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377516#377516 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: Pitot tube placement on a Firestar....
Date: Jul 07, 2012
All this fuss about the accuracy of the altimeter to a few feet What does it matter? Altimeters have always been notoriously inaccurate If you are that close to anything that is going to hurt you, like the ground, you should be looking outside the cockpit anyway.Or do you guys do blind flying approaches on instruments? Pat ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "b young" <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com>
Subject: altimiter
Date: Jul 07, 2012
dave had the micro tim... i dont know what brand mine is. it is a one needle non precision unit... but it agrees with the blind encoder.. where the gps reads high... if i can lower the pressure in the static system by putting a ramp just before the static hole... i may show a higher altitude. and make it match the gps. boyd. tanks for the kind words and reference to the tail wheel. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Pitot tube placement on a Firestar....
Date: Jul 07, 2012
If you are that close to anything that is going to hurt you, like the ground, you should be looking outside the cockpit anyway. Or do you guys do blind flying approaches on instruments? Pat Patrick L/Kolbers: Don't know how you do it in England. Here in the States and Canada we have restricted areas, obstructions, etc. An accurate altimeter helps us stay out of air space we don't belong and keeps me above obstructions, i.e., towers, and highest terrain, as noted on our Sectional Charts. Rather than fly around an airport control zone that is in my route of flight, I check to see how high it is, then climb over. That is what the little blue box indicates on the sectional. Save time and fuel. I have always flown with an accurate altimeter, both in US Army aircraft and my three Kolbs. Normally, I don't fly blind, but at 73 I get closer to it each day. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Jack Lockamy" <jacklockamy(at)comcast.net>
Subject: I posted some videos.
Date: Jul 07, 2012
David, Great job on the videos! It's raining cats/dogs here in the Keys so not much else to do except watch Kolb videos. Made my day.... Thanks! Jack -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Kulp Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 12:23 PM Subject: Kolb-List: I posted some videos. Kolb drivers,I In May I got a hat cam to take some videos so those who want can take a ride with me and share the joy. I'm a cinematographer-in-training, so, being my first attempt, the vids aren't perfect yet. But you'll get the idea. They are the beginning and end of two flights. The grass was very high so my takeoff roll was longer than normal and it was a gusty, choppy day, so I was bouncing around quite a bit. No smooth air all day!! The static in my headset from my strobe was driving me nuts on my first flight, just so you can share my frustration. I called Dick Kuntzleman of Kuntzleman Electronics and he gave me some pointers on how to eliminate it. Next time up (next week AFTER the 95 - 100 degree temps!!) I'm going to see how well they work. Here be the links for a ride in my FlagFly. Dave Kulp Bethlehem, PA 11DMK https://vimeo.com/45266353 https://vimeo.com/45267909 https://vimeo.com/45269541 https://vimeo.com/45269542 Sorry about my socks. ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: altimiter
From: "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jul 07, 2012
Boyd, When I was flying an Allegro 2000 I put a small dab of rtv behind the static ports to increase the static pressure sensed and it worked well in getting a more accurate ASI reading. Before it was reading a good bit faster than it should have. -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY (9G0) Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Tennessee Prop 64x32 Truth is what stands the test of experience. - Albert Einstein Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377530#377530 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 07, 2012
From: Charlie England <ceengland(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: difference between my altimiter and gps
Static port placement can have large effects on both airspeed and altitude measurement. Using a port on only one side of the plane can have a big effect, too. Try setting your altimeter to field elevation while sitting on the ground, then fly a low pass over the runway at full speed & check the altimeter during the pass. If it's different by more than your height above the runway, you've got a static port 'issue'. In faster planes like RV's, it's common to see an altitude reading that's 50 feet or more below ground level during a high speed pass. A byproduct is a significantly lower indicated airspeed than reality. The fix on RV's is a 'bump' in the skin at the static port. Another possibility is, I read years ago that non-WAAS GPS's sometimes use an idealized spherical earth model, & local GPS altitudes may be off quite a bit from reality (the earth isn't exactly round). Charlie On 07/07/2012 10:25 AM, David Kulp wrote: > Boyd, > > I guess it's human nature but I blindly trusted the hugely expensive > satellites and technology of our military over my little plastic > MicroTim. May be a naive choice! I'll check it further to find out. > Thanks. > > BTW, that little tail wheel you sent me after my flying system flipped > on its side in the hurricane just follows me all over the sky. Great > bunch of guys and gals on this list, and you're one!!! > > Dave Kulp > Bethlehem, PA > FireFly 11DMK > > > On 7/5/2012 1:02 PM, b young wrote: >> The one instrument that does vary is my MicroTim, a little >> altimeter. I got the model with no connection to the pitot, just a >> little hole in the housing, and after takeoff it's always a couple of >> hundred feet different from my Garmin GPS. With the semi- enclosed >> cockpit there apparently is reduced pressure at the instrument >> panel. I have to be careful there because a lot of my flying is >> under the 22 or 19 ceiling of ABE's airspace so I place my trust in >> my GPS there. >> dave and kolbers... >> it seems I always have a 150 to 200 ft difference between my >> altimeter and gps... the gps reads high... so the last time I flew >> by an atc, I explained the difference and asked what altitude my >> mode c blind encoder was reporting via the transponder. they >> replied the exact reading on my altimeter, best I can figure, is >> my blind encoder and altimeter are connected to the same static >> source, and it is running a bit high in pressure. the static source >> is a small tube with a hole drilled through both sides... maybe a >> small washer soldered on the tube just before the holes, has anyone >> had experience with this problem. >> boyd young >> * >> >> >> * > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Kolb Mark III Classic on Puddlejumper Floats
From: "Rex Rodebush" <jrrodebush(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jul 07, 2012
Jack, Thanks for the info. I've talked with Patrick several times over the past year and he does seem to know his business and seems easy to work with. I want to get comfortable with the plane on the standard gear first but I'm living on a lake so the amphib. floats are very attractive. Rex Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377536#377536 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 07, 2012
Subject: drift camera and mount
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>
I just purchased and received my new Drift HD Stealth camera. I tried one last week at the beginning of the fly-in, and liked it well enough to order one. I tried it with my old camera mount and had some issues with wave, so I made a new mount that is a lot less flexible. There has been a thread lately about pitot tubes and their location. You will notice that mine is right in the front of the nose cone. I also bought from Aircraft Spruce one that allows you to take the tube out if there are a lot of clutzy people around. I looked but could not find one on their site, but that may just be me. It is a threaded plastic receptical, and I use it to secure my camera mount. I have tried all locations on the Firestar and the nose cone has the least amount of vibration. I have shortened the mount to the shortest that I can and still use the mount. The nice part about the drift is that it has a remote that you can turn the camera on and off, and it has a rechargeable battery that takes almost all the guess work out of using one. I prefer to have my camera out where there is nothing in the field of view but scenery. Lexan really cuts back on the quality of the video and if you are not wearing black there is the ever present reflections. http://vimeo.com/45364866 The password is "owyheeflier" I was looking on the Tachyon site, which was my earlier camera to get an idea of what I wanted to sell that camera for and was very surprised to see that one of the video's that they were using to spur the sales of their cameras was one of mine. So now the videos are private and require a password. concerning calibration of pitot tubes, I have found that the reading can be changed by the angle the end of the tube is cut. Mine is in the front and sticks out about 6 inches. I have one static port (AC spruce) and it is reading as accurate as I have ever been able to get it. The sharper the angle the less it reads. (45- reads low - 20 reads just about right) Larry -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: drift camera and mount
From: "George Alexander" <gtalexander(at)att.net>
Date: Jul 07, 2012
lcottrell wrote: > I just purchased and received my new Drift HD Stealth camera. > > S N I P > http://vimeo.com/45364866 (http://vimeo.com/45364866) The password is "owyheeflier" > > I was looking on the Tachyon site, which was my earlier camera to get an idea of what I wanted to sell that camera for and was very surprised to see that one of the video's that they were using to spur the sales of their cameras was one of mine. So now the videos are private and require a password. > > S N I P > Larry > -- > If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending. > > Really looking forward to your video(s) Larry, but can't get in..... says the Password is incorrect. Tried initial caps, quotes, etc.... nada -------- George Alexander FS II R503 N709FS http://www.oh2fly.net Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377550#377550 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 07, 2012
Subject: Re: drift camera and mount
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>
Oops! make that owyheeflyer! Sorry about that. Larry On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 4:24 PM, George Alexander wrote : > > > lcottrell wrote: > > I just purchased and received my new Drift HD Stealth camera. > > > > S N I P > > http://vimeo.com/45364866 (http://vimeo.com/45364866)=EF=BD The pas sword is > "owyheeflier" > > > > I was looking on the Tachyon site, which was my earlier camera to get a n > idea of what I wanted to sell that camera for and was very surprised to s ee > that one of the video's that they were using to spur the sales of their > cameras was one of mine. So now the videos are private and require a > password. > > > > S N I P > > Larry > > -- > > If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email > address before sending. > > > > > > > Really looking forward to your video(s) Larry, but can't get in..... says > the Password is incorrect. > > Tried initial caps, quotes, etc.... nada > > -------- > George Alexander > FS II R503 N709FS > http://www.oh2fly.net > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377550#377550 > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Jack Lockamy" <jacklockamy(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb Mark III Classic on Puddlejumper Floats
Date: Jul 07, 2012
Rex, I am going to take Patrick's advice and fly the Mark III on factory gear first to work out any 'bugs' that may exist. Then I will re-install the floats and give it a go. That way I have a 'baseline' to work with. Good luck on the lake. I can't wait to take-off/land on water. Jack -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rex Rodebush Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 2:34 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb Mark III Classic on Puddlejumper Floats Jack, Thanks for the info. I've talked with Patrick several times over the past year and he does seem to know his business and seems easy to work with. I want to get comfortable with the plane on the standard gear first but I'm living on a lake so the amphib. floats are very attractive. Rex Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377536#377536 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Jack Lockamy" <jacklockamy(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: drift camera and mount
Date: Jul 07, 2012
Larry, Is there a difference between the DRIFT HD and the DRIFT STEALTH or are both the same camera? After seeing your videos, I=99m putting one of those on my =98wish list=99 Jack From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Cottrell Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 6:38 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: drift camera and mount Oops! make that owyheeflyer! Sorry about that. Larry On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 4:24 PM, George Alexander wrote: lcottrell wrote: > I just purchased and received my new Drift HD Stealth camera. > > S N I P > http://vimeo.com/45364866 (http://vimeo.com/45364866) <http://vimeo.com/45364866%29> =EF=BD The password is "owyheeflier" > > I was looking on the Tachyon site, which was my earlier camera to get an idea of what I wanted to sell that camera for and was very surprised to see that one of the video's that they were using to spur the sales of their cameras was one of mine. So now the videos are private and require a password. > > S N I P > Larry > -- > If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending. > > Really looking forward to your video(s) Larry, but can't get in..... says the Password is incorrect. Tried initial caps, quotes, etc.... nada -------- George Alexander FS II R503 N709FS http://www.oh2fly.net Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377550#377550 " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List MS - k">http://forums.matronics.com e - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. t="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution -- If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 07, 2012
Subject: Re: drift camera and mount
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>
As near as I can figure the Drift HD is a newer version that uses a micro sd card and I think there are some differences with the batteries as well. I know that I wanted the Stealth model. I think it is a bit bigger than the other one. Not sure if its better. I got mine at B&H photo, and they were apparently having a sale and I paid 199.00 The last I looked they were $239.00. Amazon where I get most of my stuff was even higher, so shop around. Larry On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Jack Lockamy wrote : > Larry,**** > > ** ** > > Is there a difference between the DRIFT HD and the DRIFT STEALTH or are > both the same camera? After seeing your videos, I=99m putting one of those > on my =98wish list=99**** > > ** ** > > Jack**** > > ** ** > > *From:* owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto: > owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Larry Cottrell > *Sent:* Saturday, July 07, 2012 6:38 PM > *To:* kolb-list(at)matronics.com > *Subject:* Re: Kolb-List: Re: drift camera and mount**** > > ** ** > > Oops! make that owyheeflyer! Sorry about that. > Larry**** > > On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 4:24 PM, George Alexander > wrote:**** > > > lcottrell wrote: > > I just purchased and received my new Drift HD Stealth camera. > > > > S N I P > > http://vimeo.com/45364866 (http://vimeo.com/45364866)=EF=BD The pas sword is > "owyheeflier" > > > > I was looking on the Tachyon site, which was my earlier camera to get a n > idea of what I wanted to sell that camera for and was very surprised to s ee > that one of the video's that they were using to spur the sales of their > cameras was one of mine. So now the videos are private and require a > password. > > > > S N I P > > Larry > > -- > > If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email > address before sending. > > > > > > > Really looking forward to your video(s) Larry, but can't get in..... says > the Password is incorrect. > > Tried initial caps, quotes, etc.... nada > > -------- > George Alexander > FS II R503 N709FS > http://www.oh2fly.net > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377550#377550 > > > ========== > " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List > ========== > MS - > k">http://forums.matronics.com > ========== > e - > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > t="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > > **** > > > -- > *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email > address before sending.***** > > ** ** > > * * > > * * > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List* > > ** > > ** > > *http://forums.matronics.com* > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > > ** > > * * > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > > -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 07, 2012
From: chris davis <capedavis(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: drift camera and mount
that didnt work either!=0A=0A=0AChris Davis=0AKXP 503 492 hrs=0AGlider Pilo t=0ADisabled from crash building Firefly=0A=0A=0A__________________________ ______=0AFrom: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>=0ATo: kolb-list@mat ronics.com =0ASent: Saturday, July 7, 2012 6:38 PM=0ASubject: Re: Kolb-List : Re: drift camera and mount=0A=0A=0AOops! make that owyheeflyer! Sorry abo ut that.=0ALarry=0A=0A=0AOn Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 4:24 PM, George Alexander < lexander" =0A>=0A>=0A>lcottrell wrote:=0A>> I just pur chased and received my new Drift HD Stealth camera.=0A>>=0A>> S N I P=0A>> =C2-http://vimeo.com/45364866 (http://vimeo.com/45364866%29=EF=BD The password is "owyheeflier"=0A>>=0A>> I was looking on the Tachyon site, whic h was my earlier camera to get an idea of what I wanted to sell that camera for and was very surprised to see that one of the video's that they were u sing to spur the sales of their cameras was one of mine. So now the videos are private and require a password.=0A>>=0A>> S N I P=0A>> Larry=0A>> --=0A >> If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email add ress before sending.=0A>>=0A>>=0A>=0A>=0A>Really looking forward to your vi deo(s) Larry, but can't get in..... says the Password is incorrect.=0A>=0A> Tried initial caps, quotes, etc.... nada=0A>=0A>--------=0A>George Alexande r=0A>FS II R503 =C2-N709FS=0A>http://www.oh2fly.net=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>Re ad this topic online here:=0A>=0A>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php ?p=377550#377550=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>======== ====0A>" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-Li st=0A>============0A>MS -=0A>k">http://forums.matroni cs.com=0A>============0A>e -=0A>=C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2--Matt Dralle, List Admin.=0A>t="_blank">http://www.matronics .com/contribution=0A>============0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A =0A=0A-- =0AIf you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my ======================== = ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 07, 2012
Subject: Re: drift camera and mount
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>
I will level with you, it is all a pain in the tailfeathers. I may experiment a bit, but I think all the ways that one can restrict access, glitch most of the time. The current password of owyheeflyer is all lower case. Larry On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 7:50 PM, chris davis wrote: > that didnt work either! > > Chris Davis > KXP 503 492 hrs > Glider Pilot > Disabled from crash building Firefly > *From:* Larry Cottrell > *To:* kolb-list(at)matronics.com > *Sent:* Saturday, July 7, 2012 6:38 PM > *Subject:* Re: Kolb-List: Re: drift camera and mount > > Oops! make that owyheeflyer! Sorry about that. > Larry > > On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 4:24 PM, George Alexander wro te: > > > lcottrell wrote: > > I just purchased and received my new Drift HD Stealth camera. > > > > S N I P > > http://vimeo.com/45364866 (http://vimeo.com/45364866%29=EF=BD The p assword > is "owyheeflier" > > > > I was looking on the Tachyon site, which was my earlier camera to get a n > idea of what I wanted to sell that camera for and was very surprised to s ee > that one of the video's that they were using to spur the sales of their > cameras was one of mine. So now the videos are private and require a > password. > > > > S N I P > > Larry > > -- > > If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email > address before sending. > > > > > > > Really looking forward to your video(s) Larry, but can't get in..... says > the Password is incorrect. > > Tried initial caps, quotes, etc.... nada > > -------- > George Alexander > FS II R503 N709FS > http://www.oh2fly.net > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377550#377550 > > > ========== > " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List > ========== > MS - > k">http://forums.matronics.com > ========== > e - > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > t="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > > -- > *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email > address before sending.* > > * > > =nofollow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List > * > > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > > -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 07, 2012
From: chris davis <capedavis(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: drift camera and mount
LARRY i still cant get in either ?=0A=0A=0AChris Davis=0AKXP 503 492 hrs=0A Glider Pilot=0ADisabled from crash building Firefly=0A=0A=0A_______________ _________________=0AFrom: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>=0ATo: ko lb-list(at)matronics.com =0ASent: Saturday, July 7, 2012 6:38 PM=0ASubject: Re : Kolb-List: Re: drift camera and mount=0A=0A=0AOops! make that owyheeflyer ! Sorry about that.=0ALarry=0A=0A=0AOn Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 4:24 PM, George Alexander wrote:=0A=0A--> Kolb-List message posted by : "George Alexander" =0A>=0A>=0A>lcottrell wrote:=0A>> I just purchased and received my new Drift HD Stealth camera.=0A>>=0A>> S N I P=0A>> =C2-http://vimeo.com/45364866 (http://vimeo.com/45364866%29=EF =BD The password is "owyheeflier"=0A>>=0A>> I was looking on the Tachyon site, which was my earlier camera to get an idea of what I wanted to sell that camera for and was very surprised to see that one of the video's that they were using to spur the sales of their cameras was one of mine. So now the videos are private and require a password.=0A>>=0A>> S N I P=0A>> Larry =0A>> --=0A>> If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove m y email address before sending.=0A>>=0A>>=0A>=0A>=0A>Really looking forward to your video(s) Larry, but can't get in..... says the Password is incorre ct.=0A>=0A>Tried initial caps, quotes, etc.... nada=0A>=0A>--------=0A>Geor ge Alexander=0A>FS II R503 =C2-N709FS=0A>http://www.oh2fly.net=0A>=0A>=0A >=0A>=0A>Read this topic online here:=0A>=0A>http://forums.matronics.com/vi ewtopic.php?p=377550#377550=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>==== ========0A>" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navig ator?Kolb-List=0A>============0A>MS -=0A>k">http://fo rums.matronics.com=0A>============0A>e -=0A>=C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2--Matt Dralle, List Admin.=0A>t="_blank">http:/ /www.matronics.com/contribution=0A>============0A>=0A >=0A>=0A>=0A=0A=0A-- =0AIf you forward this email, or any part of it, pleas ===== ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 08, 2012
From: Phil <phactor9(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: drift camera and mount
The new pwd worked just fine. Try copy/pasting rather than typing manually. Phil H --- On Sat, 7/7/12, chris davis wrote: From: chris davis <capedavis(at)yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: drift camera and mount Date: Saturday, July 7, 2012, 11:43 PM LARRY i still cant get in either ? =0A=0A=C2-=0AChris Davis KXP 503 492 hrs Glider Pilot Disabled from crash building Firefly =0A=0A=0A=0AFrom: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, July 7, 2012 6:38 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: drift camera and mount =0AOops! make that owyheeflyer! Sorry about that. Larry =0AOn Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 4:24 PM, George Alexander w rote: > lcottrell wrote: > I just purchased and received my new Drift HD Stealth camera. > > S N I P > =C2-http://vimeo.com/45364866 (http://vimeo.com/45364866%29=EF=BD Th e password is "owyheeflier" > > I was looking on the Tachyon site, which was my earlier camera to get an idea of what I wanted to sell that camera for and was very surprised to see that one of the video's that they were using to spur the sales of their ca meras was one of mine. So now the videos are private and require a password . > > S N I P > Larry > -- > If you forward this email, or any part of it, please=0A remove my email a ddress before sending. > > Really looking forward to your video(s) Larry, but can't get in..... says t he Password is incorrect. Tried initial caps, quotes, etc.... nada -------- George Alexander FS II R503 =C2-N709FS http://www.oh2fly.net Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377550#377550 " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List MS - k">http://forums.matronics.com e - =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2--Matt Dralle, List Admin. t="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution -- If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email addres s before sending. =0A =0A=0A=nofollow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-L ist=0A=0A ==================0A=0A ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Flight West 2012
Date: Jul 08, 2012
Bear Lake. North half in Idaho and the south half in Utah, is located just west of the Wyoming State Line. Pushing 11,000 feet to get over the mountains on the west side of Bear Lake. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: Pitot tube placement on a Firestar....
Date: Jul 08, 2012
Normally, I don't fly blind, but at 73 I get closer to it each day.>> Nice one John. Oh to be only 73 again. I think, professional, particularly the military, always work to a greater degree of accuracy than the usual light a/c pilot. Particularly when air currents affect the plane especially light a/c like ours. I once flew a member of the Red Arrows RAF aerobatic team in my Challenger. As usual the height wandered up and down 25 ft and the speed varied a little. I asked my passenger to take over and the plane suddenly started running on rails. The speed and alt. didn`t vary an iota. Very chastening experience. As far as needing accurate altitude to stay out of controlled airspaceof course we are the same as you but I wouldn`t push my luck within 50 ft even if I had a radar altimeter let alone a pressure operated instrument. The only difference is that we set airfield height as zero , change to a regional pressure above a certain height if going across country. We pick up the local presser (QFE) along with landing instruction, runway, weather etc. and reset the altimeter at the destination airfield. Although this may sound complicated it means that you do not have to do any mental maths as a 600ft circuit height shows as 6oo ft on the alt. and runway height is zero. Cheers Pat ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 08, 2012
Subject: video's
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>
I took advantage of the temporary calm winds today to redo a flight from Three Forks to Rome with the new camera. The last one was a pocket "spy" camera that just couldn't handle the early morning light. I flew the entire 39 miles of the Canyon to Rome, Oregon. I cut the videos into four pieces, and was able to get it all by speeding the video up to 2x. That brought my ground speed up to about 170 MPH as I had a 24 MPH tail wind. I am still on Satellite that is a bit slow, so it was a chore to get them all uploaded. I still have two of them to finish and will send them along as soon as they are ready. Again the password is owyheeflyer, all small case. Hopefully no one will have trouble viewing them and that they are worth the effort. http://vimeo.com/45401243 is the first one. http://vimeo.com/45406892 The flight of 88 miles took one hour and 18 minutes, burning about 5 gallons of gas. I flew it all at max cruise of 5800 for the HKS. Larry -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 08, 2012
From: chris davis <capedavis(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: video's
Larry, Copied your password went to the site ,put in the password , screen went black small "private " banner in top left?=0A=0A=0AChris Davis=0AKXP 5 03 492 hrs=0AGlider Pilot=0ADisabled from crash building Firefly=0A=0A=0A__ ______________________________=0AFrom: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail. com>=0ATo: "kolb-list(at)matronics.com" =0ASent: Sun day, July 8, 2012 9:01 PM=0ASubject: Kolb-List: video's=0A=0A=0AI took adva ntage of the temporary calm winds today to redo a flight from Three Forks t o Rome with the new camera. The last one was a pocket "spy" camera that jus t couldn't handle the early morning light. I flew the entire 39 miles of th e Canyon to Rome, Oregon. I cut the videos into four pieces, and was able t o get it all by speeding the video up to 2x. That brought my ground speed u p to about 170 MPH as I had a 24 MPH tail wind. I am still on Satellite tha t is a bit slow, so it was a chore to get them all uploaded. I still have t wo of them to finish and will send them along as soon as they are ready.=0A =0AAgain the password is- owyheeflyer,- all small case. Hopefully no on e will have trouble viewing them and that they are worth the effort.=0A=0Ah ttp://vimeo.com/45401243- is the first one.=0A=0Ahttp://vimeo.com/4540689 2=0A=0AThe flight of 88 miles took one hour and 18 minutes, burning about 5 gallons of gas. I flew it all at max cruise of 5800 for the HKS.=0ALarry =0A-- =0AIf you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my ema = ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 08, 2012
From: chris davis <capedavis(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: drift camera and mount
Copied , pasted , got black page with "private " in the corner?=0A=0A=0AChr is Davis=0AKXP 503 492 hrs=0AGlider Pilot=0ADisabled from crash building Fi refly=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Phil <phactor9@yahoo .com>=0ATo: kolb-list(at)matronics.com =0ASent: Sunday, July 8, 2012 7:19 AM =0ASubject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: drift camera and mount=0A=0AThe new pwd work ed just fine. Try copy/pasting rather than typing manually.=0A=0APhil H=0A =0A=0A--- On Sat, 7/7/12, chris davis wrote:=0A=0A=0A >From: chris davis <capedavis(at)yahoo.com>=0A>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: dri ft camera and mount=0A>To: "kolb-list(at)matronics.com" =0A>Date: Saturday, July 7, 2012, 11:43 PM=0A>=0A>=0A>LARRY i still cant get in either ?=0A>=0A>=0A>Chris DavisKXP 503 492 hrsGlider PilotDisabled from crash building Firefly=0A>=0A>________________________________=0A>From : Larry Cottrell =0A>To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com =0A>Sent: Saturday, July 7, 2012 6:38 PM=0A>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: dri ft camera and mount=0A>=0A>Oops! make that owyheeflyer! Sorry about that.La rry =0A>On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 4:24 PM, George Alexander =0A>>=0A>>=0A>>lcottrell wrote:=0A>>> I just purchased and rec eived my new Drift HD Stealth camera.=0A>>>=0A>>> S N I P=0A>>> =C2-http: //vimeo.com/45364866 (http://vimeo.com/45364866%29=EF=BD The password is "owyheeflier"=0A>>>=0A>>> I was looking on the Tachyon site, which was my earlier camera to get an idea of what I wanted to sell that camera for and was very surprised to see that one of the video's that they were using to s pur the sales of their cameras was one of mine. So now the videos are priva te and require a password.=0A>>>=0A>>> S N I P=0A>>> Larry=0A>>> --=0A>>> I f you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>Really looking forward to your v ideo(s) Larry, but can't get in..... says the Password is incorrect.=0A>> =0A>>Tried initial caps, quotes, etc.... nada=0A>>=0A>>--------=0A>>George Alexander=0A>>FS II R503 =C2-N709FS=0A>>http://www.oh2fly.net=0A>>=0A>> =0A>>=0A>>=0A>>Read this topic online here:=0A>>=0A>>http://forums.matronic s.com/viewtopic.php?p=377550#377550=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A >>============0A>>" target="_blank">http://www.matr onics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List=0A>>============0A>>MS -=0A>>k">http://forums.matronics.com=0A>>=========== =0A>>e -=0A>>=C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2--Matt Dralle, List Admin.=0A >>t="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution=0A>>====== ======0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>-- If you forward this email, or any par t of it, please remove my email address before sending. =0A>=nofollow tar get=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List =0A>http://www.ma -======================== =========== ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 08, 2012
Subject: Re: video's
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>
When the screen went black, it should have been loading onto your computer. The private banner is normal and should go away. Do it again and just wait until it does something. The video's are in HD and depending on the speed of your computer, will determine how long it takes to load. With these videos it may be best to click on the arrow, when it comes up then pause it to let it load far enough that it will run without it stopping and starting. Larry On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 8:08 PM, chris davis wrote: > Larry, Copied your password went to the site ,put in the password , screen > went black small "private " banner in top left? > > Chris Davis > KXP 503 492 hrs > Glider Pilot > Disabled from crash building Firefly > *From:* Larry Cottrell > *To:* "kolb-list(at)matronics.com" > *Sent:* Sunday, July 8, 2012 9:01 PM > *Subject:* Kolb-List: video's > > I took advantage of the temporary calm winds today to redo a flight from > Three Forks to Rome with the new camera. The last one was a pocket "spy" > camera that just couldn't handle the early morning light. I flew the entire > 39 miles of the Canyon to Rome, Oregon. I cut the videos into four pieces, > and was able to get it all by speeding the video up to 2x. That brought my > ground speed up to about 170 MPH as I had a 24 MPH tail wind. I am still on > Satellite that is a bit slow, so it was a chore to get them all uploaded. I > still have two of them to finish and will send them along as soon as they > are ready. > > Again the password is owyheeflyer, all small case. Hopefully no one will > have trouble viewing them and that they are worth the effort. > > http://vimeo.com/45401243 is the first one. > > http://vimeo.com/45406892 > > The flight of 88 miles took one hour and 18 minutes, burning about 5 > gallons of gas. I flew it all at max cruise of 5800 for the HKS. > Larry > -- > *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email > address before sending.* > > * > > =nofollow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List > * > > > * > > * > > -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: video's
From: "George Alexander" <gtalexander(at)att.net>
Date: Jul 08, 2012
lcottrell wrote: > I took advantage of the temporary calm winds today to redo a flight from Three Forks to Rome with the new camera. The last one was a pocket "spy" camera that just couldn't handle the early morning light. I flew the entire 39 miles of the Canyon to Rome, Oregon. I cut the videos into four pieces, and was able to get it all by speeding the video up to 2x. That brought my ground speed up to about 170 MPH as I had a 24 MPH tail wind. I am still on Satellite that is a bit slow, so it was a chore to get them all uploaded. I still have two of them to finish and will send them along as soon as they are ready. > Again the password is owyheeflyer, all small case. Hopefully no one will have trouble viewing them and that they are worth the effort. > > http://vimeo.com/45401243 (http://vimeo.com/45401243) is the first one. > > http://vimeo.com/45406892 (http://vimeo.com/45406892) > > The flight of 88 miles took one hour and 18 minutes, burning about 5 gallons of gas. I flew it all at max cruise of 5800 for the HKS. > Larry > -- > If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending. > > > Working fine Larry. Thanks. Tried to leave a comment on the site, but there was a (Vimeo) problem. Not sure what kind of problem Chris is having. -------- George Alexander FS II R503 N709FS http://www.oh2fly.net Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377691#377691 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 08, 2012
Subject: Re: video's
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>
http://vimeo.com/45410900 This is the third of four. Password is still the same ( owyheeflyer ) it is normal for the screen to go to a black frame with the private banner on one end. It will open to a video as soon as it loads. George, thanks for letting me know that it was working this time. Was beginning to regret that I ever started. Larry ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 08, 2012
Subject: Re: video's
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>
http://vimeo.com/45418602 This is the forth of four. Password is still the same ( owyheeflyer ) it is normal for the screen to go to a black frame with the private banner on one end. It will open to a video as soon as it loads. Larry -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: video's
From: "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jul 09, 2012
Larry, Your excellent videos are much appreciated. You are fortunate to have your own grand canyonette without flight restrictions in your area. I'm curious if you have ever flown down into the canyon below the plateau level. My cojones are not robust enough for me to do that if I had access to such a canyon. Forty-five years ago when I thought my self immune to mishap, perhaps I would have, but not today. -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY (9G0) Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Tennessee Prop 64x32 Truth is what stands the test of experience. - Albert Einstein Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377745#377745 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: video's
From: "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org>
Date: Jul 09, 2012
Thank you Larry for doing this, had to go get a second cup of coffee just to do it justice. With your permission, I will be adding this to our local club newsletter for the other club members to enjoy. I would guess your camera has a 135 degree lens? Whatever it is, it is just right for what you are doing. Oh, yeah - you have good taste in music too - I have already found and downloaded Blue Sky by Palas Inde. Will be checking back later for #4. -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org Kingsport, TN 3TN0 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Hebrews 11:1 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377751#377751 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 09, 2012
Subject: Re: video's
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>
gang, That camera has a 170 degree lens, and I have it zoomed to about halfway. It is also shot in 720 in an effort to reduce the amount of time to upload the videos. I am due to get my Sat. service upgraded to 5 MBS sometime soon, and will try the higher setting when I do. I have flown down in the bottom of that and other Canyons, but this particular one is a Wilderness area, and it is "recommended" that flights stay above 2000 feet. I do not believe that this flight violated any regulations and thus do not object to its use. Just do not give out the password to the video please. To Thom- While there is no real reason for an engine to quit in the bottom of a Canyon than there is over level ground, it is sometimes hard to convince your butt muscles to relax when you are in the bottom of said Canyon. My tolerance level varies quite a bit depending on terrain. :-) Larry On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 6:56 AM, Richard Pike wrote: > > Thank you Larry for doing this, had to go get a second cup of coffee just > to do it justice. With your permission, I will be adding this to our local > club newsletter for the other club members to enjoy. > > I would guess your camera has a 135 degree lens? Whatever it is, it is > just right for what you are doing. Oh, yeah - you have good taste in music > too - I have already found and downloaded Blue Sky by Palas Inde. > > Will be checking back later for #4. > > -------- > Richard Pike > Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org > Kingsport, TN 3TN0 > Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not > seen. > Hebrews 11:1 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377751#377751 > > -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 09, 2012
From: Pete Zaitcev <zaitcev(at)kotori.zaitcev.us>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: video's
"Thom Riddle" wrote: > I'm curious if you have ever flown down into the canyon below > the plateau level. My cojones are not robust enough for me to do > that if I had access to such a canyon. Forty-five years ago when > I thought my self immune to mishap, perhaps I would have, but not today. My mountain flying instructor made me enter canyons. The objective was to cure me from the "terrain fright" typical to flatland pilots. However, we were in a heavier, slicker airplane than Kolb, using Va. Cutting power and a zoom maneuver would make it pop above canyon side where we had plenty of space to land. -- Pete ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 09, 2012
From: chris davis <capedavis(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: video's
Larry , must be something with my "norton setting" I went down stairs and e ntered your password on my wifes computer and they came right through!They were downloading for half an hour on my laptop . Thank you they are nice! t hat rim sure looks flat ,I bet its not as flat as it looks.-=0AChris Davi s=0AKXP 503 492 hrs=0AGlider Pilot=0ADisabled from crash building Firefly =0A=0AFrom: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>=0ATo: "kolb-list@matro nics.com" =0ASent: Sunday, July 8, 2012 9:01 PM =0ASubject: Kolb-List: video's=0A=0A=0AI took advantage of the temporary ca lm winds today to redo a flight from Three Forks to Rome with the new camer a. The last one was a pocket "spy" camera that just couldn't handle the ear ly morning light. I flew the entire 39 miles of the Canyon to Rome, Oregon. I cut the videos into four pieces, and was able to get it all by speeding the video up to 2x. That brought my ground speed up to about 170 MPH as I h ad a 24 MPH tail wind. I am still on Satellite that is a bit slow, so it wa s a chore to get them all uploaded. I still have two of them to finish and will send them along as soon as they are ready.=0A=0AAgain the password is - owyheeflyer,- all small case. Hopefully no one will have trouble view ing them and that they are worth the effort.=0A=0Ahttp://vimeo.com/45401243 - is the first one.=0A=0Ahttp://vimeo.com/45406892=0A=0AThe flight of 88 miles took one hour and 18 minutes, burning about 5 gallons of gas. I flew it all at max cruise of 5800 for the HKS.=0ALarry=0A-- =0AIf you forward th is email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending. ================ ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Brad Nation <nationcap(at)comcast.net>
Subject: 33 Stunning Photos Of Our Amazing Planet Earth Taken By A Guy
In Space - StumbleUpon
Date: Jul 09, 2012
These may not be related to Kolb aircraft but they are related to flying, even if it's from flight level 1320000 (250 miles)! http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/6Er2vr ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: 33 Stunning Photos Of Our Amazing Planet Earth Taken By
A Guy In Space - StumbleUpon
Date: Jul 09, 2012
On Behalf Of Brad Nation These may not be related to Kolb aircraft I can confirm the above, the photos are not Kolb related. The Kolb List is for Kolb aircraft building and Kolb aircraft flying. Help us keep it that way, please. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama, Kolb builder and flyer... ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Threatening
From: "johngilpin" <j.gilpin(at)bigpond.com>
Date: Jul 10, 2012
This was the view of Rock House last night. Threatening..... All safe now. Firebreaks made and wind favorable today. But no power for some days, 90 poles down. Larry rigged the motorhome generator to keep the freezers going. More news when he gets back on line. JG Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377935#377935 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/010_medium_149.jpg ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 10, 2012
From: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart(at)onlyinternet.net>
Subject: Kolb List - Social Media?
It seems that the Kolb List is degenerating into a social media list rather than a technical list for the building, maintaining and improving Kolb of aircraft. Over 50 percent of the posts have nothing to do with the previous sentence. I really don't mind but since a minuscule few use the term "do not archive" to prevent corrupting the archives, as so as time goes on the archives become less and less meaningful. What brought this on? Someone put up a jump to some photos taken from space and another person objected and then posted a group of photos with no mention of Kolb or how they were Kolb related. This was followed by a forest fire close to Rock House. To accommodate these interesting but non technical topics, it might be useful to start a social media kolb list on Facebook, so that these posts have a place to go with out corrupting the Kolb List. Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Kolb List - Social Media?
Date: Jul 10, 2012
What brought this on? Someone put up a jump to some photos taken from space and another person objected and then posted a group of photos with no mention of Kolb or how they were Kolb related. This was followed by a forest fire close to Rock House. To accommodate these interesting but non technical topics, it might be useful to start a social media kolb list on Facebook, so that these posts have a place to go with out corrupting the Kolb List. Jack B. Hart FF004 Jack H/Kolbers: Couldn't have been a forest fire at the Rock House. There are no trees. I believe cross country flights in our Kolbs are an intricate part of building and flying Kolbs, and have been for many, many years. I also believe Kolb Flyins like our former Kolb Homecoming, Monument Valley Flyins, and now the Rock House Flyins are what makes this List live on. Based on the amount of traffic, I doubt there is a need for a Social Media Kolb List. Photos of my Flight West 2012 are the only "group of photos" I am aware of having been recently posted. Do you disapprove of this? john h mkIII Titus, Alabama ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Bob Green <bgreen(at)bimi.org>
Date: Jul 11, 2012
Subject: RE: Kolb-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 07/10/12
John keep the "Hauck" posts coming. Your flights encourage those of us that are building and looking forward to flying. Technical question: Can anyone send a photo of where and how your seat belts are attached in the floor area of the MKIIIX? My drawings do not show the seat belt installation. Do you have them wrapped around a cross-member tube? I know where the shoulder ones attach, just not sure about the lap belts. Bob G MKIIIX, 830PB Making progress. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: MKIIIx Seat Belt Attachments
Date: Jul 11, 2012
Can anyone send a photo of where and how your seat belts are attached in the floor area of the MKIIIX? Bob G Bob G/Kolbers: We welded 4130 tabs to attach seat belt hardware in my MKIIIc. Not sure what the plans/instructions call for. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "b young" <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: RE: Kolb-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 07/10/12
Date: Jul 11, 2012
i wrapped mine around and attached to the landing gear socket tubes, then looped them under the cage tube at the bottom of the seat. boyd y >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Technical question: Can anyone send a photo of where and how your seat belts are attached in the floor area of the MKIIIX? My drawings do not show the seat belt installation. Do you have them wrapped around a cross-member tube? I know where the shoulder ones attach, just not sure about the lap belts. Bob G ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: 2 stroke carb synchronizing
From: "Jeffrey Dill" <1dillfamily(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jul 11, 2012
This is an old but excellent post. I dont recall seeing the pasted Rotax synch procedure before. I have seen similar suggestions, just not the Rotax procedure; what book is it in?. I am running a 503 on a model 2 Kitfox and so far have not used a manometer. I guess you could say I was using a pencil jig to equal throttle position at idle, and then at high rpm. The engine has been running great except I saw somewhere that the EGTs are supposed to be within 40 degrees of each other. I am usually slightly outside of that window at high rpm. At low RPM the higher EGT is actually the opposite cylinder, does that make any sense? I operate at wide open throttle a lot. When I looked at my carbs at WOT, they were both beyond fully opened, so I dont know what else I could do even if I put a manometer on it. If they are both open all the way, what else can be adjusted to balance the EGTs? Comments? -------- Jeff Dill Model 2 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=378015#378015 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: 2 stroke carb synchronizing
Date: Jul 11, 2012
If they are both open all the way, what else can be adjusted to balance the EGTs? Comments? -------- Jeff Dill Model 2 I wouldn't bet the farm on instrumentation found in Kolb Aircraft. They are by no means precision instruments. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Kolb Homecoming, London, Kentucky, 16, 17, 18 November 2012
Date: Jul 11, 2012
Hi Kolbers: Just got off the phone with Travis Brown and Brian Milburn, Kolb Aircraft Company. We decided to have another Kolb Homecoming this year. Dates are: 16, 17, 18 November 2012. Here are the directions to the Kolb Factory whether you come by air or by land: http://www.kolbaircraft.com/contactingus.htm This will not be the same type flyin that The New Kolb Aircraft Company sponsored through 2009, where all the food and drinks for all meals was free to the attendees. Like a lot of other folks in today's world, Kolb Aircraft is a little stretched for funds. We are asking that those that attend drop a generous donation into the cookie jar that will be available on site, to help defray expenses for food and drinks for the weekend. It is the only way we can do this. I assured Travis and Brian that us Kolbers were more than willing to do our part to pay our own way and enjoy a great Kolb weekend. I am sure that Homer Kolb will be observing the activities from above with interest as he did for many years when he attended our past Homecomings. Would be nice to get some of you Kolbers that have not attended the Kolb Homecomings in the past to show up so we can put a face with those names on the Kolb List. Now's your chance. You have 4 months to plan on attending. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Arksey(at)aol.com
Date: Jul 11, 2012
Subject: Re: Kolb Homecoming, London, Kentucky, 16, 17, 18 November
2012 good idea John....also cookie jar makes sense...will pass the word to my Kolb friends...will try and make it ...will sure be good time and good to see people again...thanks for letting us know...blue sky's and safe flying to all...Jswan Jim Swan Kolb Firestar ll, 503 Rotax , 6147 Wilcox Rd., Eaton Rapids, Mi 48827 ph 517-663-8488 GPS GPS FOR MY RUNWAY N 42 deg 28.581 W084deg 44.825 In a message dated 7/11/2012 2:20:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com writes: --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" Hi Kolbers: Just got off the phone with Travis Brown and Brian Milburn, Kolb Aircraft Company. We decided to have another Kolb Homecoming this year. Dates are: 16, 17, 18 November 2012. Here are the directions to the Kolb Factory whether you come by air or by land: http://www.kolbaircraft.com/contactingus.htm This will not be the same type flyin that The New Kolb Aircraft Company sponsored through 2009, where all the food and drinks for all meals was free to the attendees. Like a lot of other folks in today's world, Kolb Aircraft is a little stretched for funds. We are asking that those that attend drop a generous donation into the cookie jar that will be available on site, to help defray expenses for food and drinks for the weekend. It is the only way we can do this. I assured Travis and Brian that us Kolbers were more than willing to do our part to pay our own way and enjoy a great Kolb weekend. I am sure that Homer Kolb will be observing the activities from above with interest as he did for many years when he attended our past Homecomings. Would be nice to get some of you Kolbers that have not attended the Kolb Homecomings in the past to show up so we can put a face with those names on the Kolb List. Now's your chance. You have 4 months to plan on attending. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: 2 stroke carb synchronizing
From: Gary Aman <zeprep251(at)aol.com>
Date: Jul 11, 2012
Jeff, The slides clear the throttle bore by about 1/4" at full throttle.They can' t let more air in by going past the bore but they allow the needles to be p ulled out of the jets to the max,for richest mixture at full load.You can a djust for closed with slides bottomed with the screws backed out,then do th e pencil thing to adjust cables to sync off idle movement after turning the idle speed screws in until they contact the slides.Then just turn the spee d screws in the same amount for correct idle speed.I could get smooth idle below 1800rpm without using a manometer.The slow idle speed really shortene d the landing distance,like having a drag chute on the FS-2 G.Aman FS-2 503dcdi MK-3 jabiru 2200A -----Original Message----- From: Jeffrey Dill <1dillfamily(at)gmail.com> Sent: Wed, Jul 11, 2012 12:51 pm Subject: Kolb-List: Re: 2 stroke carb synchronizing This is an old but excellent post. I don=C3=A2=C2=C2=99t recall seeing t he pasted Rotax synch procedure before. I have seen similar suggestions, just not the Rotax procedure; what book is it in?. I am running a 503 on a model 2 Kitfox and so far have not used a manometer. I guess you could say I was using a pencil j ig to equal throttle position at idle, and then at high rpm. The engine has been running great except I saw somewhere that the EGTs are supposed to be withi n 40 degrees of each other. I am usually slightly outside of that window at high rpm. At low RPM the higher EGT is actually the opposite cylinder, does that make any sense? I operate at wide open throttle a lot. When I looked at my carbs at WOT, they were both beyond fully opened, so I don=C3=A2=C2=C2=99t know what e lse I could do even if I put a manometer on it. If they are both open all the way, what else ca n be adjusted to balance the EGTs? Comments? -------- Jeff Dill Model 2 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=378015#378015 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Kolb Homecoming, London, Kentucky, 16, 17, 18 November
2012
Date: Jul 11, 2012
good idea John....also cookie jar makes sense...will pass the word to my Kolb friends...will try and make it ...will sure be good time and good to see people again...thanks for letting us know...blue sky's and safe flying to all...Jswan Jim Swan Kolb Firestar ll, 503 Rotax , 6147 Wilcox Rd., Eaton Rapids, Mi 48827 ph 517-663-8488 GPS FOR MY RUNWAY N 42 deg 28.581 W084deg 44.825 Jim S/Kolbers: Before I forget again. The Kolb Homecoming is a way for the Kolb Family to get together, hopefully, at least once a year. However, it is not exclusively a flyin for Kolbs and Kolb people. I will take this opportunity to invite everyone who is interested in Kolb Aircraft, Kolb People, and Kolb History. Doesn't matter if you have an airplane or not, if it is a Kolb or not. Everyone is welcome in the spirit of the Kolb Family. We also decided on November for the month of this year's Homecoming. It will be much better weather then than in the heat of summer. Should be cool at night and warm during the day, but don't hold me to that. Looking for some good camping weather. We have had some miserable weather at previous Kolb Homecomings, but still had a good time. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Clyde MacQuarrie <clydemacquarrie(at)eastlink.ca>
Subject: Re: Kolb List - Social Media?
Date: Jul 12, 2012
Hi John. All your e-mails are a "must read" in my book. You are an inspiration to all Kolbers and I admire your courage to take to the air on all the trips across the North America continent. I did my first cross country trip yesterday and although it was only one hour long it is a start. Hope to get my license this summer before my 80th birthday. All the best, Clyde MacQuarrie. -------------------------------------------------- From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 11:20 PM Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Kolb List - Social Media? > > > What brought this on? Someone put up a jump to some photos taken from > space > and another person objected and then posted a group of photos with no > mention of Kolb or how they were Kolb related. This was followed by a > forest fire close to Rock House. To accommodate these interesting but non > technical topics, it might be useful to start a social media kolb list on > Facebook, so that these posts have a place to go with out corrupting the > Kolb List. > > Jack B. Hart FF004 > > > Jack H/Kolbers: > > Couldn't have been a forest fire at the Rock House. There are no trees. > > I believe cross country flights in our Kolbs are an intricate part of > building and flying Kolbs, and have been for many, many years. > > I also believe Kolb Flyins like our former Kolb Homecoming, Monument > Valley > Flyins, and now the Rock House Flyins are what makes this List live on. > > Based on the amount of traffic, I doubt there is a need for a Social Media > Kolb List. > > Photos of my Flight West 2012 are the only "group of photos" I am aware of > having been recently posted. Do you disapprove of this? > > john h > mkIII > Titus, Alabama > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: 2 stroke carb synchronizing
From: "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org>
Date: Jul 12, 2012
Not wishing to hijack the thread, or sound like a know-it-all, but I have had very good results by pulling off the air cleaner and working the throttle lever until the top of the cut out in the back of the slide is even with the top of the carburetor throttle bore. This is typically at around 90 - 95% throttle. If they are not identically aligned, turn the adjustment barrel at the top of the carb until they are. If the top surface edge of both slide cut outs are exactly aligned with their respective bores, then you will have EGT readings that are real close. Maybe not as perfect as using the manometer, but real close. It is also extremely easy to see and do. And I like that. -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org Kingsport, TN 3TN0 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Hebrews 11:1 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=378090#378090 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Kolb List - Social Media?
Date: Jul 12, 2012
Hi John. All your e-mails are a "must read" in my book. You are an inspiration to all Kolbers and I admire your courage to take to the air on all the trips across the North America continent. I did my first cross country trip yesterday and although it was only one hour long it is a start. Hope to get my license this summer before my 80th birthday. All the best, Clyde MacQuarrie. Clyde M/Kolbers: Congratulations on your flight training. Best of luck to you and your aviation adventures. When people your age get off their butt and take flying lessons, makes me feel like a "spring chicken". john h mkIII Titus, Alabama ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Kolb Mark III Classic for Sale
From: "zeus627" <brad(at)mykcwireless.com>
Date: Jul 12, 2012
Hello. I have my Mark III Classic for sale. Built in 2003. Registered E-LSA light sport. N-numbered. 75 hrs. TT airframe and engine. Rotax 618 engine. VFR panel with airspeed, altimeter, EGT, voltage, hobbs, compass, digital tach, ELT, strobe and nav lights. Fully enclosed with rear cargo area. Kiev composite 3-blade prop. Hydraulic heel brakes. Dual controls. Upholstery and carpeting. Vertex Std. 220 radio. Lowrance Airmap GPS. Pilot 2-pl. stereo intercom. 2 Flightcom headsets. Flown regularly. Construction plans, builders manuals, logs, extra parts included. Hangered at Somerset County (PA) airport (2G9). Asking $14,500. Contact Brad Zearfoss, owner. Telephone: 814-442-4368. Listed on Barnstormers.com. A really nice plane. Check it out. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=378120#378120 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Arksey(at)aol.com
Date: Jul 12, 2012
Subject: Re: - Social Media?
Clyde...congratulation's on your working to get your license at 80 years old....good for you....I learned to fly when i was a kid and still at it at 81 yrs old....lots of fun..lets do it as long as we can ...the Kolb is a great airplane for us old people....jswan Jim Swan Kolb Firestar ll, 503 Rotax , 6147 Wilcox Rd., Eaton Rapids, Mi 48827 ph 517-663-8488 GPS GPS FOR MY RUNWAY N 42 deg 28.581 W084deg 44.825 In a message dated 7/12/2012 10:19:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, clydemacquarrie(at)eastlink.ca writes: --> Kolb-List message posted by: Clyde MacQuarrie Hi John. All your e-mails are a "must read" in my book. You are an inspiration to all Kolbers and I admire your courage to take to the air on all the trips across the North America continent. I did my first cross country trip yesterday and although it was only one hour long it is a start. Hope to get my license this summer before my 80th birthday. All the best, Clyde MacQuarrie. -------------------------------------------------- From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 11:20 PM Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Kolb List - Social Media? > > > What brought this on? Someone put up a jump to some photos taken from > space > and another person objected and then posted a group of photos with no > mention of Kolb or how they were Kolb related. This was followed by a > forest fire close to Rock House. To accommodate these interesting but non > technical topics, it might be useful to start a social media kolb list on > Facebook, so that these posts have a place to go with out corrupting the > Kolb List. > > Jack B. Hart FF004 > > > Jack H/Kolbers: > > Couldn't have been a forest fire at the Rock House. There are no trees. > > I believe cross country flights in our Kolbs are an intricate part of > building and flying Kolbs, and have been for many, many years. > > I also believe Kolb Flyins like our former Kolb Homecoming, Monument > Valley > Flyins, and now the Rock House Flyins are what makes this List live on. > > Based on the amount of traffic, I doubt there is a need for a Social Media > Kolb List. > > Photos of my Flight West 2012 are the only "group of photos" I am aware of > having been recently posted. Do you disapprove of this? > > john h > mkIII > Titus, Alabama > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 14, 2012
From: David Kulp <undoctor(at)ptd.net>
Subject: Silicone heatsink compound
Kolb owners, I recently read the posts concerning anti-seize compound being old school and that silicone heatsink compound should be used to better transfer heat between the plugs and cylinder head. I got a good 10 tube deal on eBay and will have enough for this life and the next with one 5g tube, so I would like to send a tube to the first 9 emails that I get with your name and address. All I want is assurance that you will use some on your Kolb. Get ready. Get set. GO!!! Dave Kulp Bethlehem, PA FireFly 11DMK ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Silicone heatsink compound
From: Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com>
Date: Jul 14, 2012
I would like one! Mike Welch Sent from my iPad On Jul 14, 2012, at 3:15 PM, "David Kulp" wrote: > > Kolb owners, > > I recently read the posts concerning anti-seize compound being old school and that silicone heatsink compound should be used to better transfer heat between the plugs and cylinder head. I got a good 10 tube deal on eBay and will have enough for this life and the next with one 5g tube, so I would like to send a tube to the first 9 emails that I get with your name and address. All I want is assurance that you will use some on your Kolb. > > Get ready. Get set. GO!!! > > Dave Kulp > Bethlehem, PA > FireFly 11DMK > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Silicone heatsink compound
From: Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com>
Date: Jul 14, 2012
My address was sent direct in a separate email. Mike > >> >> Kolb owners, >> >> I recently read the posts concerning anti-seize compound being old school and that silicone heatsink compound should be used to better transfer heat between the plugs and cylinder head. I got a good 10 tube deal on eBay and will have enough for this life and the next with one 5g tube, so I would like to send a tube to the first 9 emails that I get with your name and address. All I want is assurance that you will use some on your Kolb. >> >> Get ready. Get set. GO!!! >> >> Dave Kulp >> Bethlehem, PA >> FireFly 11DMK >> >> >> >> > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 14, 2012
From: frank goodnight <frank.goodnight(at)att.net>
Subject: Re: Silicone heatsink compound
Hi Dave, I would one, Thanks Frank 3569 w Lonoke Fayetteville , ARK 72704 ________________________________ From: David Kulp <undoctor(at)ptd.net> Sent: Sat, July 14, 2012 3:14:12 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Silicone heatsink compound Kolb owners, I recently read the posts concerning anti-seize compound being old school and that silicone heatsink compound should be used to better transfer heat between the plugs and cylinder head. I got a good 10 tube deal on eBay and will have enough for this life and the next with one 5g tube, so I would like to send a tube to the first 9 emails that I get with your name and address. All I want is assurance that you will use some on your Kolb. Get ready. Get set. GO!!! Dave Kulp Bethlehem, PA FireFly 11DMK ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 14, 2012
From: frank goodnight <frank.goodnight(at)att.net>
Subject: Heat sink for spark plugs
Question for KOLBERS. Is the white stuff that we use to set the temp of our iron when we heat srink fabric what we are talking about? Frank Firestar 2 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Heat sink for spark plugs
Date: Jul 14, 2012
Question for KOLBERS. Is the white stuff that we use to set the temp of our iron when we heat srink fabric what we are talking about? Frank Yep! john h mkIII Titus, Alabama ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 14, 2012
From: chris davis <capedavis(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Silicone heatsink compound
DAVE I could use a tube I am soon to cover my FIREFLY- and need to set up the iron , i havent cover any thing since my KOLB KXP in 1992 my address i s chris davis box 586 , west chatham ma. 02669 .,, thank you very much that stuff is hard to find and expensive around here . Chris=0AChris Davis=0AKX P 503 492 hrs=0AGlider Pilot=0ADisabled from crash building Firefly=0A=0A =0A________________________________=0AFrom: David Kulp <undoctor(at)ptd.net> =0ATo: kolb-list(at)matronics.com =0ASent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 4:13 PM=0AS ubject: Kolb-List: Silicone heatsink compound=0A=0A--> Kolb-List message po sted by: David Kulp =0A=0AKolb owners,=0A=0AI recently re ad the posts concerning anti-seize compound being old school and that silic one heatsink compound should be used to better transfer heat between the pl ugs and cylinder head.- I got a good 10 tube deal on eBay and will have e nough for this life and the next with one 5g tube, so I would like to send a tube to the first 9 emails that I get with your name and address.- All I want is assurance that you will use some on your Kolb.=0A=0AGet ready.- -======================== ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Fwd: North Coast Flight Liars meeting THIS SATURDAY & Events:
From: Gary Aman <zeprep251(at)aol.com>
Date: Jul 15, 2012
Listers , If you are in the area with your Kolb,should be three of us kolbers there,y ou should note the July 15th event and the pictures from the last fly-in th at Ed had.Probably close enough for Tom R.and some others in PA G.Aman -----Original Message----- From: Don James <jbmindustries(at)att.net> Sent: Wed, Jul 11, 2012 9:05 pm Subject: North Coast Flight Liars meeting THIS SATURDAY & Events: July 14, Saturday: ( This meeting has been moved due to poor turn-out during the July 4 week.) North Coast Lite Flyers will be held at 6:PM at: TJ Ambers Restaurant, located in Tri County Plaza, at 1500 Canton Road, Akr on, Ohio 44312 Phone is : 330-733-96 The plaza is located just south of route 224 on Canton Road ( Rt 91 ) Bring anyone interested in Ultralight or Light Sport Aircraft, or is simply hungry!! July 14, 2012 Lebanon, Ohio Wings 'n Wheels Warren County Airport (I68) - Please join us on Saturday, July 14,2012 the 2nd Annual Wings 'n Wheels at the Warren County Airport (I68). The action begins early at 7: 00am and runs until 2:00pm. This annual event feature antique, classic, homebuilt, ultral ight, rotorcraft and warbird aircraft as well as vintage cars, trucks, motorcycles, fire tru cks, autocycles, military vehicles and tractors. An all-you-can-eat Pancake Breakfast is ser ved, with all proceeds benefiting the Lebanon Band Program. .........Arrive Early!!! Don't miss this exciting event!!! July 14, 2012 Zanesville, Ohio at PARR Parr Airport (42I) - Fly-In Drive-In Pancake Sausage and Egg Breakfast 8AM- 2PM Lunch served after 11AM Parr Airport 42I Free breakfast to the first f ive pilots of home built aircraft..Hope to see you there. July 15 , SUNDAY .. Ed Ushanko's fly-in Free: Steak & Eggs Breakfast. Due east of Youngstown Elser airport about 5 miles (N40.58.152 , W080.33. 111) , ..... 8 to 12:00 noon. There will be many of our members flying the re. July 21, 2012: Bowling green, Ohio......Wood County Air Fair - Wood County Regional Airport (1G0) - Fly-in or drive-in for breakfast or lu nch. Breakfast provided by EAA 582. Deet's BBQ will provide a full lunch me nu. The event will include a full ramp of static aircraft displays along wi th a private military vehicle display. Come join us for our first annual Wo od County Air Fair! August 4, Saturday: North Coast Lite Flyer's Jonathan Gamble Memorial Picnic and Fly-in. MAYFIE LD AIRPORT 1D4 Fly in around noon, and we will eat about 3:00 PM. If driving, please brin g a dish to pass. Club supplies drinks, hot dogs, hamburgers, and table service. Located at 2569 Myersville Rd, Uniontown, Ohio 330-414-5272 if lost. Stay low when flying and fly patterns to the north of the runway only. Reme mber you are right on the north edge of CAK airspace. East-West runway is o nly visible when you are lined up with it. August 4, Saturday: Pancake Breakfast @ Shelby 12G Shelby, Ohio All you can eat. Donation to the EAA Chapter 148 .. Breakfast before N CLF picnic ! August 25, 2012 Ashland, Ohio Mark Warner's fly-in. Land in his back yard ! Details to follow........ August 25, 2012: Newark, Ohio at Heath Newark-Heath Airport ( VTA ) Catered Breakfast of Eggs, Sausage, Pancakes, Juice, & Coffee Vintage, Ultralight, Light Sport, Homebuilt, aircraft on display & Clasic C ars. August 25 thru 26, URBANA, Ohio MERFI (Mid-Eastern Regional Fly-In) 2012 Grimes Field (I74) - Pancake breakfast plus Fish & Chips (Fresh Water Farms ) lunch both days. Air racing on Saturday and Poker Run on Sunday. See what=C2=92s new a t MERFI, the B-17 restoration and watch the B-25 fly. Numerous forums and vendor displays. Sept 2 at DAVIES: Davies .... Southeast of Wooster will eat about 1:00 to 2:00, bring your own plates and utensels and maybe something to put on the table if you can. September 8, Saturday: North Coast Lite Flyers will be held at 6:PM at: TJ Ambers Restaurant, located in Tri County Plaza, at 1500 Canton Road, Akr on, Ohio 44312 Phone is : 330-733-96 The plaza is located just south of route 224 on Canton Road ( Rt 91 ) Bring anyone interested in Ultralight or Light Sport Aircraft, or is simply hungry!! October 6, Saturday: North Coast Lite Flyers will be held at 6:PM at: TJ Ambers Restaurant, located in Tri County Plaza, at 1500 Canton Road, Akr on, Ohio 44312 Phone is : 330-733-96 The plaza is located just south of route 224 on Canton Road ( Rt 91 ) Bring anyone interested in Ultralight or Light Sport Aircraft, or is simply hungry!! September 1, 2012: Zanesville at Riverside. Riverside Airport (OH36) - Fly-In Drive-In Pancake ,Sausage and Egg Breakfa st 8AM-2PM Lunch served after 11AM . Free Breakfast to the first five Pilot s of home built aircraft. Hope to see you there... September 14 to 16, 2012: TROY, Ohio Historic WACO Field (1WF) - Come see vintage WACO aircraft. Talk to the pil ots. Take a ride in an open cockpit WACO & cross this off your bucket list. Rides offered all 3 days. Most activities on Saturday. Kids tent with acti vities. Pancake breakfast on Saturday morning. Fly over by Wright B Flyer November 3, Saturday: North Coast Lite Flyers will be held at 6:PM at: TJ Ambers Restaurant, located in Tri County Plaza, at 1500 Canton Road, Akr on, Ohio 44312 Phone is : 330-733-96 The plaza is located just south of route 224 on Canton Road ( Rt 91 ) Bring anyone interested in Ultralight or Light Sport Aircraft, or is simply hungry!! ANY SATURDAY @ Sunset Strip, Marlboro, Ohio. ( Near Rt 619 just east of Ha rtville ) EAA 147 At Sunset Strip is offering complimentary donuts, coffee, and other breakfast foods on Saturday mornings for anyone wanting to fly in. They a re trying to encourage traffic and activity for the airport. Anyone lookin g for a destination on Saturday mornings please keep sunset in mind. Typica lly there is someone there from 7:30 AM to around 11:00AM ( Note: They want traffic at Sunset Strip. Shoot a few landings when you g o by & help keep airport open. ) Here is a link that was sent by Frank Majni: It is really fantastic ! http://www.ted.com/talks/vijay_kumar_robots_that_fly_and_cooperate.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6CvycZux0E&feature=endscreen&NR=1 What the Rocket Booster on the Space Shuttle saw and heard. Sounds like air across a big metal tube. http://kottke.org/12/03/what-the-space-shuttle-booster-saw ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 15, 2012
Subject: ELSA Registration and Airworthiness Certificate
From: Charles Davis <ceddavis(at)gmail.com>
Well, the Firefly has sold. The new owner has considerable ultralight experience, along with some GA training but no PPL, meaning it was sold as "misc parts". Here's the interesting question: That leaves me with a data plate, and FAA paperwork for a plane. Is there any value to these? Note the registered and data-plated serial number does not match the serial number stamped into the cage. As an FAA attorney explained to me once "The data plate is the airplane. Everything else is a replaceable part." We all know there are many projects out there, some partially complete, some already flying, with no way to become legal. Potentially, some one in this situation could purchase my "plane" and conduct a "major modification", such as replacing the engine, wings, cage and tail assembly. The would require a sign of from the local FAA office, and a new fly-off period, typically 5 hours. It should certainly work for a Firefly, and perhaps even a Firestar. The owner of our local field does aircraft restorations, and it's not uncommon for antique planes to be completely rebuild, becoming airworthy with not a single original part. And these are type certified, not Experimental. Thoughts? Chuck ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 15, 2012
From: chris davis <capedavis(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Silicone heatsink compound
Dave did I get in in time? Chris=0A=0A=0AChris Davis=0AKXP 503 492 hrs=0AGl ider Pilot=0ADisabled from crash building Firefly=0A=0A=0A_________________ _______________=0AFrom: David Kulp <undoctor(at)ptd.net>=0ATo: kolb-list@matro nics.com =0ASent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 4:13 PM=0ASubject: Kolb-List: Sil ndoctor(at)ptd.net>=0A=0AKolb owners,=0A=0AI recently read the posts concernin g anti-seize compound being old school and that silicone heatsink compound should be used to better transfer heat between the plugs and cylinder head. - I got a good 10 tube deal on eBay and will have enough for this life an d the next with one 5g tube, so I would like to send a tube to the first 9 emails that I get with your name and address.- All I want is assurance th at you will use some on your Kolb.=0A=0AGet ready.- Get set.- GO!!!=0A == ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 15, 2012
From: David Kulp <undoctor(at)ptd.net>
Subject: Re: Silicone heatsink compound
Affirmative, Chris. You were #6. I sent "sorry" notes to all who responded too late. Dave On 7/15/2012 10:03 PM, chris davis wrote: > Dave did I get in in time?Chris > Chris Davis > KXP 503 492 hrs > Glider Pilot > Disabled from crash building Firefly > *From:* David Kulp > *To:* kolb-list(at)matronics.com > *Sent:* Saturday, July 14, 2012 4:13 PM > *Subject:* Kolb-List: Silicone heatsink compound > > > > > Kolb owners, > > I recently read the posts concerning anti-seize compound being old > school and that silicone heatsink compound should be used to better > transfer heat between the plugs and cylinder head. I got a good 10 > tube deal on eBay and will have enough for this life and the next with > one 5g tube, so I would like to send a tube to the first 9 emails that > I get with your name and address. All I want is assurance that you > will use some on your Kolb. > > Get ready. Get set. GO!!! > > Dave Kulp > Bethlehem, PA > FireFly 11DMK > ref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List" bsp; > ================= > > > * > > > * ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Silicone heatsink compound
From: "Rick Lewis" <cktman(at)wildblue.net>
Date: Jul 16, 2012
I never heard of heat sink compound being used on spark plugs before. I use it all the time on electronic devices to transfer heat but not spark plugs. I guess its alright as long as it won't allow the spark plug to Gaul up in the heads. I think I will stick to never seize until I know for sure. -------- Rick Lewis (VW Watercooled Engine) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=378402#378402 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "b young" <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Silicone heatsink compound
Date: Jul 16, 2012
when i have removed the sparkplugs with the heat sink compound,,,, in my opinion,,, it works as an anti seize as well. i think it is the best of both worlds. has any one mixed the two and if so with what results? boyd young mkiii 912 I never heard of heat sink compound being used on spark plugs before. I use it all the time on electronic devices to transfer heat but not spark plugs. I guess its alright as long as it won't allow the spark plug to Gaul up in the heads. I think I will stick to never seize until I know for sure. -------- Rick Lewis ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Silicone heatsink compound
Date: Jul 16, 2012
I never heard of heat sink compound being used on spark plugs before. Rick Lewis Rick L/Kolbers: Heat sink compound is called for by Rotax series 912 engine manuals for spark plug threads. Don't know about other engines. john h mkIII Woodville, Florida ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: 33 Stunning Photos Of Our Amazing Planet Earth Taken By
A Gu
From: "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com>
Date: Jul 16, 2012
[quote="nationcap(at)comcast.net"]These may not be related to Kolb aircraft but they are related to flying, even if it's from flight level 1320000 (250 miles)! http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/6Er2vr (http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/6Er2vr) > [b] Awesome post ! Just so happens I use the same Nikon Coolpix P510 and also shoot pictures of Earth from my Kolb using the same Nikon as the Dutch astronaut and physician Andre Kuipers. -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=378420#378420 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Silicone heatsink compound
From: "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Jul 17, 2012
Hi Rick, The silicone thermal conducting paste has been used by Rotax for more years than I can remember. It is in the Line Maint. Manual and in service bulletins. Rotax also says not to use anti seize. Anti seize has no other redeeming quality other than what it was originally designed for and that was to keep things from galling or freezing up. It's old school because it was used back when they didn't have the thermal paste and didn't know anything else. Times have changed and there is something better. Use the silicone thermal transfer paste it's better and for the health of your engine. -------- Roger Lee Tucson, Az. Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated Rotax Repair Center - Heavy Maint. Rated Home 520-574-1080 TRY HOME FIRST Cell 520-349-7056 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=378499#378499 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: First flight of my Kolb
From: "AtomicDog" <MStudio828(at)aol.com>
Date: Jul 17, 2012
At last, my Kolb Firestar took flight Sat. after 2 1/2 years of the joy of building, blood sweat & tears. After a few crow hops and a flight around the pattern on Saturday, I went for an hour flight on Sunday. My baby is a Firesatr II, Rotax 582, B gearbox, Ivo 3 blade 66". It flies great, cruise speed is 80mph at 5500 rpm, stall occurs at 40mph. Many thanks to all the folks on this list, as I researched many of my questions here. Also much thanks to Travis at kolb. -------- Building Firestar II Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=378553#378553 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "George Bearden" <gab16(at)sbcglobal.net>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List Digest: 8 Msgs - 07/14/12
Date: Jul 17, 2012
> so I would like to send a tube to the first 9 emails that I get If I'm not too late I'd like some for my 503 on my Kolb Firestar I. Thanks! GeoB PS: Addy coming on email ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 17, 2012
Subject: Hanger Sale
From: Charles Davis <ceddavis(at)gmail.com>
Now that the Firefly's sold, I am going through the hanger, looking at anything which might be valuable to some one (other then the data plate and Airworthiness Certificate!) I have a 2.25" VSI, and a full helmet, which I will offer to the List prior to posting on Ebay or Barnstormers. VSI: Range: 0 - 2000'. Aircraft Spruce has a similar one (10-05500) for $265, while Wicks has them for $254. Note this is an un-certified instrument with no data plate or markings, but it does work. http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/inpages/umavertspeed.php http://www.wicksaircraft.com/catalog/product_detail.php/pid=15322~subid=11458/index.html First Lister to respond has it for $150, including shipping anywhere in the lower 48. Also, any interest in the helmet? Regards, Chuck Malvern, PA ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Hanger Sale
From: "David d." <david(at)PaulowniaTrees.com>
Date: Jul 17, 2012
A full helmet? What's in it? But seriously what is a full helmet? -------- Kolb Mark IIIX 582 Blue head Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=378565#378565 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: First flight of my Kolb
Date: Jul 18, 2012
At last, my Kolb Firestar took flight Sat. after 2 1/2 years of the joy of building, blood sweat & tears. Unsigned! Congratulations on completing and flying your FS. What is your name and where are you located? john hauck mkIII Woodville, Florida ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 18, 2012
Subject: Video- Long Draw Fire
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>
I rolled out Dart today to check on the fire. The visibility has finally cleared up a bit. It was quite windy, but since it was early, it was only just faster one direction more than the other, and my crosswind strip while pretty short, was right in line. I have been having some issues with my oil pressure in my HKS after a recent oil change. I replaced the recent oil filter with a new and different one, and had thought that it had helped. I had only flown some 12 miles when the pressure started fluctuating enough to cause an "alarm" from my EIS. Not wanting to walk back through a charred landscape, I turned tail for home, so the video is not as extensive as I would have liked it. The Kolb however preformed flawlessly as usual, and while the wife thought my landing was one of my best, it scared the crap out of me. My depth perception is not the greatest, and a 10 MPH headwind had me a bit slower than I really wanted, but the Firestar made it look easy, and a little throttle at the right time kept us high enough to clear the fence and touch down like a feather. https://vimeo.com/45984093 The password is "owyheeflyer" Larry -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ________________________________________________________________________________
From: McCarthy Tom <mccarthy(at)jefnet.com>
Subject: Re: Video- Long Draw Fire
Date: Jul 19, 2012
Larry, Just an FYI for you. My HKS Slingshot was giving me some intermittent, alarming oil pressure reading in flight, especially climb. The first thing I did was remove the electric sender and replace it with a mechanical oil pressure line and gauge from a test kit from harbor freight, and fly around a few times. I found everything to be fine and ordered a new sending unit and installed, which fixed the problem. I hope yours is as easy, keep us informed. Tom McCarthy Original Firestar N441TM Slingshot N863GB Zenith 601HD N514TM ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Rotax 912 ULS with prop and EIS for sale
From: "Jason Omelchuck" <jason@trek-tech.com>
Date: Jul 19, 2012
Hello All, I have a Rotax 912 ULS for Sale (275hours S/N 5643227). It comes with a Warp Drive Taper Tip 68" 3 bladed propeller (pusher for the 912), oil tank and oil tank bracket, Grand Rapids EIS (4EGT, 2CHT, Airspeed, Altimeter, fuel flow, VSI, RPM, Oil press, Oil Temp,), Coolant Overflow tank, 4" prop extension, Rotax Radiator (not in picture), Rotax oil cooler (not in picture), Carb Balancing tool, Rotax tool kit, Voltage regulator, Engine log, engine operators manual, The engine came off of an Aeroprakt A20 which I had a little landing accident in. The prop never touched anything and the engine was happily idling and had to be shut down after the accident. I am asking $16,000 for the whole lot. I believe this would be a good set up for a MKIII or Extra. This is my first shot at selling it so I will not be offering the individual pieces yet. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=378756#378756 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/k7a2515006dc0b_1000036_168.jpg ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: I love to fly my Kolb Firestar
From: "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com>
Date: Jul 22, 2012
Geeeze ... I love to fly my Kolb Firestar. :D -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=378928#378928 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Ted Cowan" <tc1917(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List Digest:
Date: Jul 23, 2012
I would like to thank David Kulp for sending me this stuff for the threads of my 912. I have been using just a little dab of never seize. Always have on all my motors. Never had a problem. Also put a silicone stuff around the top of the plug - on the white part -- to keep water out. Was a problem with the Cyunna engine. Got looking around and found a very larg tube of silicone heat sink that came with my sling shot about five years ago. Never gave it a thought. If this is the same stuff, which I believe it is from the internet, I will give the small tube to a friend of mine for his 912. Hope this is okay with David. Still for a 912. Thanks much. I would be happy to send the mailing money to him. Ted Cowan, Slingshot 912UL zoom zoom ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 23, 2012
Subject: A fairing for the Mk III
From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com>
There hasn't been a lot of building activity on the forum for some time. Attached are two pics of the composite fairing I made for the aft end of the fuselage pod on Ken Holle's Mk IIIX. I call it a duck tail for short. The idea behind it is to help smooth the inflow to the prop, gain a little efficiency and maybe decrease drag a little. The first pic shows the profile of the duck tail and illustrates the construction method used to make it, your basic Burt Rutan moldless composite techniques. The shape was derived from pressure recovery shapes developed for sail plane fuselages. The second pic shows the part mounted on the airplane. >From a block of large cell (flotation billet) Styrofoam I hot wire cut the first side with the divot at the trailing edge and glassed it with two plies of BID at 45 degrees. Peel ply was placed over the lay up and wetted out. The drop from the cut was put aside to be used to hold the part for the second cut and when the second lay up was done. TIP: When you make the hot wire templates for a part like this, layout the nail holes (the templates are attached to the foam with 10 penny finishing nails) in a symmetrical pattern, stack up the templates and drill them all at one time. That way you can pull off the first template, attach the second and they line up perfectly. The first lay up was rough trimmed with a box knife while the glass was in the "green" stage. The second template was applied, the hot wire cut was made and two more plies of BID were laid up and peel plied. Once again the drop was retained for use later. This second lay up was rough trimmed in the green stage too. I mixed up a batch of heavy micro (glass micro balloons and epoxy) TIP: When the epoxy will not absorb any more micro balloons put a drop or two of denatured alcohol into the mix and it will absorb more. The idea is to make the mix as light as possible. The heavy micro was used to fill the divot, and scraped flush with the edges. A single layer of BID wide enough to cover the micro in the divot was wetted out an a strip of plastic sheet, a second piece of plastic sheet was placed over the glass and a squeegee was used to push out as much epoxy as possible while still keeping the glass wet (this method is known as the poor man's vacuum bagging technique). The top layer of plastic sheet was carefully peeled off and the bottom sheet was used to transport the lay up to the part. This lay up was applied over the micro fill to seal it. This, too, was green trimmed and the whole part was allowed to cure for a few days. After the part was fully cured it was placed between the drops from the hot wire cuts of the OML and the sandwich of part and drops was lightly clamped with a few rail clamps. The hot wire was charged and most of the block on the inside of the part was cut away. The inside of the mounting surfaces were scraped with a Surform tool to remove all the residual foam and the part was ready to trim to length and fit around the boom tube. The mounts are two lengths of 1/2" X 3/4" 2024-T3 aluminum angle .062" thick. They are held to the "H" frame uprights with three custom formed Adel clamps. At 5 inch intervals Nut Serts were installed so the duck tail could be attached with thin head 10-32 phillips screws. The duck tail, the mounting rails, and all the hardware weigh less than a pound and a half. Flight testing will be in a few days and we'll see if it actually does anything or if it just looks cool. IMOH :-} Rick Girard -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 23, 2012
From: chris davis <capedavis(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List Digest:
ok zDave thank you very much ill check the mail tomorrow=0A=0A=0AChri . Chr iss Davis=0AKXP 503 492 hrs=0AGlider Pilot=0ADisabled from crash building F irefly=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: David Kulp <undocto r(at)ptd.net>=0ATo: kolb-list(at)matronics.com =0ASent: Monday, July 23, 2012 11: 02 PM=0ASubject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb-List Digest:=0A=0A=0AIf I remember correctly you're out on the Cape, right?- If so, it should have gotten t o you by now.- =0A=0ADave=0A=0A=0A=0AOn 7/23/2012 9:14 PM, chris davis wr ote:=0A=0ADave , I never heard . Did I make your list of recievers? Chris =0A>=0A>=0A>Chris Davis=0A>KXP 503 492 hrs=0A>Glider Pilot=0A>Disabled from crash building Firefly=0A>=0A>From: David Kulp mailto:undoctor(at)ptd.net=0A> Monday, July 23, 2012 9:08 AM=0A>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb-List Dig =0A>=0A>That'd be fine. No payment necessary Ted. =0A>Dave=0A>=0A>Do not ar chive=0A>=0A>Sent from my iPhone=0A>=0A>On Jul 23, 2012, at 7:05 AM, "Ted C owan" wrote:=0A>=0A>> --> Kolb-List message posted b y: "Ted Cowan" =0A>> =0A>> I would like to thank Davi d Kulp for sending me this stuff for the threads of my 912.- I have been using just a little dab=0A>> of never seize.- Always have on all my motor s.- Never had a problem.- Also put a silicone stuff around the top of t he=0A>> plug - on the white part -- to keep water out.- Was a problem wit h the Cyunna engine.- Got looking around and found a very=0A>> larg tube of silicone heat sink that came with my sling shot about five years ago.- Never gave it a thought.- If this is=0A>> the same stuff, which I believ e it is from the internet, I will give the small tube to a friend of mine f or his 912.- Hope this=0A>> is okay with David.- Still for a 912.- Th anks much.- I would be happy to send the mailing money to him.- Ted Cow an,=0A>> Slingshot 912UL zoom zoom =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>>- --> =0A>=0A> ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: A fairing for the Mk III
From: "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org>
Date: Jul 24, 2012
Very nice. The prop pulses will not be kind to it, so give us a few long term endurance reports along with the efficiency reports. -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org Kingsport, TN 3TN0 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Hebrews 11:1 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379078#379078 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 24, 2012
From: David Kulp <undoctor(at)ptd.net>
Subject: Re: A fairing for the Mk III
Kolbers, When Don G. built my FlagFly he fabricated one out of aluminum. I don't know how the weight compares with glass, but the pulses from the prop have no effect upon it's integrity. Dave Kulp Bethlehem, PA FireFly 11DMK On 7/24/2012 7:31 AM, Richard Pike wrote: > > Very nice. The prop pulses will not be kind to it, so give us a few long term endurance reports along with the efficiency reports. > > -------- > Richard Pike > Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org > Kingsport, TN 3TN0 > Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. > Hebrews 11:1 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379078#379078 > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 24, 2012
Subject: RC kolb airplane
From: Mark Shimei <mark.shimei(at)gmail.com>
If I remember...someone on this list was looking into plans or a kit that could be modified into a Kolb I am in the process of building a 1/6 scale of my ultrastar,but figured I would complicate it. The wings and tail will fold like the real one,and the shocks I installed for the landing gear will be functional also. Here is a link to the site which I update every few days. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1683085 May have to copy and paste. If there are those that think this is not Kolb related,just say so and I will no longer post. However, I dont see why it wouldnt,I have seen more postings about seafoam and other worthless subjects beat to death here than on any other list I am a member of.(5 right now,was over 11) ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: RC kolb airplane
From: Michael Welch <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com>
Date: Jul 24, 2012
Hi Mark, That was me that asked about a Kolb RC model. I was asking for my son who was in Afghanistan at the time. (He was a civilian contractor, working on Bagram AB. He has since come permanently, which frankly makes it probably even better, because now he has the time and tools to build one. I'm interested in anything you have regarding the model. I'll forward the info on to him. Thanks a million, Mike Welch Yes, it's Kolb related. Is a Kolb model airplane not trying to further the namesake? I think "yup". On Jul 24, 2012, at 2:23 PM, Mark Shimei wrote: > If I remember...someone on this list was looking into plans or a kit that could be modified into a Kolb > I am in the process of building a 1/6 scale of my ultrastar,but figured I would complicate it. > > The wings and tail will fold like the real one,and the shocks I installed for the landing gear will be functional also. > > Here is a link to the site which I update every few days. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1683085 > > May have to copy and paste. > > If there are those that think this is not Kolb related,just say so and I will no longer post. > However, I dont see why it wouldnt,I have seen more postings about seafoam and other worthless subjects beat to death here than on any other list I am a member of.(5 right now,was over 11) > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: RC kolb airplane
From: "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org>
Date: Jul 24, 2012
For the last 2 nights, been teaching my grand daughter how to fly a radio controlled airplane. She is in 3rd grade. The basic configuration of the model is a FS II with no landing gear. (No gear saves repairs) Tonight, the light came on, and all of a sudden, she "got it." She was able to make it go where she wanted, keep the altitude, and eventually land it right out in front of where we were standing. She promptly dubbed herself "The Flying Ninja Monkey." I am now the grandparent of a "Flying Ninja Monkey." What more could any grand parent ask? Well - since it didn't get broken - how about another flight in the morning? -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org Kingsport, TN 3TN0 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Hebrews 11:1 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379131#379131 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: RC kolb airplane
From: Michael Welch <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com>
Date: Jul 25, 2012
Bro. Richard, > "how about another flight in the morning?" Better yet, how about a picture of your Firestar RC model and even one of your Flying Ninja Monkey. Mike Welch ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 25, 2012
From: Frank Fanelli <frankf@flying-models.com>
Subject: Re: RC kolb airplane
Hi guys: Been following this thread on the list--I own a Firestar--and have been pretty interested in it since I put out a model airplane magazine that caters to builders. Please keep me informed, and Mark, would you consider publishing it in the magazine? Let me know. On 7/24/2012 3:23 PM, Mark Shimei wrote: > If I remember...someone on this list was looking into plans or a kit > that could be modified into a Kolb > I am in the process of building a 1/6 scale of my ultrastar,but > figured I would complicate it. > > The wings and tail will fold like the real one,and the shocks I > installed for the landing gear will be functional also. > > Here is a link to the site which I update every few days. > http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1683085 > > May have to copy and paste. > > If there are those that think this is not Kolb related,just say so > and I will no longer post. > However, I dont see why it wouldnt,I have seen more postings about > seafoam and other worthless subjects beat to death here than on any > other list I am a member of.(5 right now,was over 11) > * > > > * ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 25, 2012
From: Frank Fanelli <frankf@flying-models.com>
Subject: Re: RC kolb airplane
Hi guys: Been following this thread on the list--I own a Firestar--and have been pretty interested in it since I put out a model airplane magazine that caters to builders. Please keep me informed, and Mark, would you consider publishing it in the magazine? Let me know. On 7/24/2012 3:23 PM, Mark Shimei wrote: > If I remember...someone on this list was looking into plans or a kit > that could be modified into a Kolb > I am in the process of building a 1/6 scale of my ultrastar,but > figured I would complicate it. > > The wings and tail will fold like the real one,and the shocks I > installed for the landing gear will be functional also. > > Here is a link to the site which I update every few days. > http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1683085 > > May have to copy and paste. > > If there are those that think this is not Kolb related,just say so > and I will no longer post. > However, I dont see why it wouldnt,I have seen more postings about > seafoam and other worthless subjects beat to death here than on any > other list I am a member of.(5 right now,was over 11) > * > > > * ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: New Firestar II owner - question about elevator oscillations
From: "EricS" <eric_savener(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Jul 25, 2012
Hello fellow Kolbers, First let me say thanks to all for the helpful info. found here on a variety of subjects. I have around 30 hrs. in my new (used) Firestar II/503 and I spent many hours before and after I started flying it perusing the archives. According to what I can find in the archives, I seem to have an unusual problem. The issue I'm having is elevator oscillations. It's not elevator flutter. Once while flying with my Dad in his Kitfox we experienced sudden and violent aileron flutter, so I know what flutter feels like and this is different. I dialed her in with rudder and aileron trim tabs and she'll fly straight as an arrow, hands off, in calm conditions. But when she gets bounced around in light turbulence, the elevator will occasionally begin to oscillate if I don't keep a firm grip on the stick. It starts slowly and will increase gradually, but I can easily stop it by changing airspeed or pitch. I had a former Firestar pilot and multiple airplane builder fly with me in his Rans to watch and he said the boom tube began flexing - that's not good. The immediate solution has been to never let go of the stick. I'll call Kolb about it, but I thought I would check here first to see if others have experience with this and if there is a known solution. I have balance rods on my ailerons. It sounds like I need them for my elevator too. Thanks, Eric -Currently flying in New Mexico, just S. of Albuquerque Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379170#379170 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: RC kolb airplane
From: "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org>
Date: Jul 25, 2012
Ok, here ya go. Bear in mind that the primary concerns are indestructability and ease of repair, and not fidelity to scale appearance. Or any other kind of appearance, which is good, this thing has already been knocked out of a tree twice when it got stuck about 30 feet up. Duct taping one bamboo pole to another and then using the extreme end to poke and flail at the model while standing on a 6' step ladder does nothing to improve the cosmetics... -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org Kingsport, TN 3TN0 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Hebrews 11:1 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379181#379181 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/rebuild9_825.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/rebuild10_187.jpg ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Carb Problem
From: Ellery Batchelder Jr <elleryweld(at)aol.com>
Date: Jul 26, 2012
I have a 912 Rotax ULS 80 Hp on a Kolb MK3Classic and fuel is running out of the vent line on one carb what should I look for to stop this? ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "pcking" <pc.king(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Carb Problem
Date: Jul 26, 2012
If it's like most carbs, the vent is on the float chamber. Either your float is full of fuel and no longer holding the needle in the seat, or there is a bit of crud under the needle holding it open. I suspect the latter. You probably should clean your tank and lines when you open the carb. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ellery Batchelder Jr To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 11:57 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Carb Problem I have a 912 Rotax ULS 80 Hp on a Kolb MK3Classic and fuel is running out of the vent line on one carb what should I look for to stop this? ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 26, 2012
Subject: Re: Carb Problem
From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com>
Ellery, In addition to checking the floats and needle valve, check to see that all passages from the float chamber to the carb throat are clear. Did the engine sit for awhile? The crud in present day fuel makes a compound that can seal those small, drilled passages like you'd poured epoxy into them. Rick Girard On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Ellery Batchelder Jr wrote: > I have a 912 Rotax ULS 80 Hp on a Kolb MK3Classic and fuel is running out > of the vent line on one carb what should I look for to stop this? > > > * > > * > > -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: New Firestar II owner - question about elevator oscillations
From: "EricS" <eric_savener(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Jul 26, 2012
Thanks for your reply, Rick. I don't have any trim controls on my Firestar, though I have considered installing a "ground adjustable" trim tab on the elevator as I have for the rudder and ailerons, or a simple bungie trim system. The elevator control cables have no play in them and all bolts are tight on the tail feathers. One suggestion was to tighten the elevator cable turnbuckle by 1/2 to 1 full turn. I have not tried this yet. There are 3 bolt holes to choose from at the front of the elevator to adjust the angle of incidence and both sides are currently attached in the middle. One of the lower elevator support cables (the cables that can be disconnected to fold up the tail) on the left side was not as tight as the opposite side, so I moved the connection to a different hole. They are now both nearly as tight as a guitar string, but it made no difference. The paint appears to be the original. I will be happy to install counter balance rods on the elevator if necessary. My thought was that maybe something simple in the set-up of my Firestar was off since nobody else has had a problem with elevator flutter. I will take a few pics of the tail when I go to the hangar this afternoon and maybe someone with more Kolb experience will see something obvious that I'm missing. Thanks, Eric Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379259#379259 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: New Firestar II owner - question about elevator oscillations
From: "EricS" <eric_savener(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Jul 26, 2012
Correction: I checked my notes and the suggestion to increase the elevator control cable tension is only 1/4 to 1/2 turn of the turnbuckle. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379271#379271 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 26, 2012
From: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart(at)onlyinternet.net>
Subject: Re: New Firestar II owner - question about elevator oscillations
> >Hello fellow Kolbers, > ...................> >I dialed her in with rudder and aileron trim tabs and she'll fly straight as an arrow, hands off, in calm conditions. But when she gets bounced around in light turbulence, the elevator will occasionally begin to oscillate if I don't keep a firm grip on the stick. It starts slowly and will increase gradually, but I can easily stop it by changing airspeed or pitch. I had a former Firestar pilot and multiple airplane builder fly with me in his Rans to watch and he said the boom tube began flexing - that's not good. The immediate solution has been to never let go of the stick. > Eric, Pitch stability is much like a pendulum of a clock, in that the greater the distance the vertical cg is below the wing and the larger the mass (weight of the aircraft) the more stable the aircraft is in pitch. Each plane will seek to oscillate in pitch at its own natural frequency. As the vertical cg moves forward it puts more load on the nose and this causes the nose to drop. As the speed builds and the cg moves toward the rear more lift is generated and the nose will rise, etc. If your boom tube to cage connection is flexing, I would check out cage and boom tube integrity with in the cage. Pitch stability can be aggravated and corrected by stick input. Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: New Firestar II owner - question about elevator oscillations
Date: Jul 26, 2012
Correction: I checked my notes and the suggestion to increase the elevator control cable tension is only 1/4 to 1/2 turn of the turnbuckle. Eric S/Kolbers: You have a unique situation. First time I have heard of elevator flutter with any Kolb aircraft, except a fatal accident many years ago that involved a Twinstar with adjustable elevator trim tab that was a stock item on Twinstars. Why they all don't flutter, I do not know. They are all very much unbalanced, hanging from the leading edge, as does the rudder and ailerons. I like my tail brace wires tight, as in fiddle string tight, no slack. Elevator cables I also like tight. When the elevators locked (have someone hold them snug), there should be no play in the control stick, fore and aft. We were just talking about rudder flutter. One way to eliminate rudder flutter is to keep your feet firmly planted on the rudder pedals. Another way is to double up on the rudder springs. Both ways keep the rudder cables tight. I'm guessing tight elevator cables would eliminate elevator flutter. If not, tight elevator cables will certainly give the Kolb a much better control feel in pitch. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Carb Problem
From: Ellery Batchelder Jr <elleryweld(at)aol.com>
Date: Jul 26, 2012
Thanks Guys yes it did sit for a while but the problem was some meat head u sed silicone to hold the gasket up in side the carb base and he used it gen erously and it squeezed out inside the carb and that was what I found in th e seat so I checked other carb and found the same I cleaned both carbs an d now there is no problem, now to have an annual done and get her in the wi nd Ellery Batchelder Jr. -----Original Message----- From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com> Sent: Thu, Jul 26, 2012 2:56 pm Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Carb Problem Ellery, In addition to checking the floats and needle valve, check to see t hat all passages from the float chamber to the carb throat are clear. Did t he engine sit for awhile? The crud in present day fuel makes a compound tha t can seal those small, drilled passages like you'd poured epoxy into them. Rick Girard On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Ellery Batchelder Jr wrote: I have a 912 Rotax ULS 80 Hp on a Kolb MK3Classic and fuel is running out of the vent line on one carb what should I look for to stop this? get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: New Firestar II owner - question about elevator oscillations
From: "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org>
Date: Jul 26, 2012
This is a new one, and it sounds like you already have the bases covered. Something that you might try is to put a trim tab on the elevator to get it out of dead center, because that can get it hunting to try and find the place where it wants to live. Use the trim tab to load it postitively in one direction, and then - if necessary - put a spring loaded in flight adjustable trim to restrain it in the opposite direction so that you can live with it. Then go test fly very cautiously and see what happens. You do know that any time flutter occurs, the quickest way to stop it is to kill the airspeed by chopping the throttle and easing back on the stick? Regardless, you need to fix it. Keep us posted. -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org Kingsport, TN 3TN0 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Hebrews 11:1 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379304#379304 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 27, 2012
From: Phil <phactor9(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: AN5H-31A prop bolts
I need six AN5H-31A prop bolts where the threads length is at least 7/8" and 20 threads-per-inch. I cannot find them after days of searching. Any ideas? Phil H. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 27, 2012
Subject: Re: AN5H-31A prop bolts
From: David Peters <dpeters160(at)gmail.com>
Dillsburg On Friday, July 27, 2012, Phil wrote: > I need six AN5H-31A prop bolts where the threads length is at least 7/8" and 20 threads-per-inch. I cannot find them after days of searching. Any ideas? > > Phil H. > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "b young" <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: AN5H-31A prop bolts
Date: Jul 27, 2012
call aircraft spruce... the last time i needed prop bolts, i could not find them in their catalog.. but called them and they were on my door step in a week. i don't know if they had them in stock and not in the catalog,,, or they outsourced them. guess it don't matter, i had the bolts i needed. boyd young I need six AN5H-31A prop bolts where the threads length is at least 7/8" and 20 threads-per-inch. I cannot find them after days of searching. Any ideas? Phil H. ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: New Firestar II owner - question about elevator oscillations
From: "EricS" <eric_savener(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Jul 27, 2012
John & Richard, thanks the additional advice on what to try next. I checked my tail brace cables this morning and they were definitely not "fiddle string" tight, but they are now. It does not appear they were ever adjusted since there was paint covering the bolts/nuts. I'll fly it to see if it's fixed before making another change. One adjustment at a time so I know what to watch for in the future and I can report back to this List. I may need to fly it several times since the flutter doesn't occur often. I braced the elevator and there is no play in my elevator control cables, but they are not what I would call tight. I think I'll try adding an elevator trim tab next if tightening the tail wires doesn't solve the problem. If that doesn't help either, then I will add some tension to the elevator cables. Eric Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379362#379362 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 27, 2012
Subject: oil pressure problem
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>
I have an HKS 700 E on my Firestar. It has been showing low oil pressure. It was fine until I changed the oil, then immediately after the change the oil pressure light began flashing on my EIS. I could keep the pressure up at cruise speed, as I believed that it was a faulty sender. My last flight was "the Long Draw Fire" and I had to cut it short because I was having problems keeping the pressure high enough even at cruise. I parked it and ordered a new sender, enduring a long and extremely tedious hassle with Fed X in trying to get them to deliver the part. I finally got the sender tonight and it appears that the problem is not solved at all. I used a new filter, In fact two of them. One was a Napa Gold, and then a Carquest, hoping that it was just the filter. The oil is full synthetic 5W 40 as required. I have trouble with coincidences, and this one seems a bit strange. I am not sure that I have really flown it at the heats that we are enduring. I doubt that the temps have much to do with it as well. I am open to any suggestions at all. Larry -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Sky Biker <smlplanet(at)msn.com>
Subject: AN5H-31A prop bolts
Date: Jul 27, 2012
Be careful when buying your bolts. There was an article on one of the other flying site some time back about the ones made over seas=2C they did not m eet the standards stamped on the bolts and was not holding up and breaking. Aircraft Spruce=2C Lockwood or Leaf would be your best bet as you never kn ow what your getting at local suppliers. Date: Fri=2C 27 Jul 2012 13:14:32 -0700 From: phactor9(at)yahoo.com Subject: Kolb-List: AN5H-31A prop bolts I need six AN5H-31A prop bolts where the threads length is at least 7/8" an d 20 threads-per-inch. I cannot find them after days of searching. Any idea s? Phil H. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "b young" <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: oil pressure problem
Date: Jul 27, 2012
some where in the back of my mind, i remember a pressure relief valve built into the outlet of the oil pump. which keeps the oil pressure from going too high dureing high revs. if there is something stuck in the relief valve holding it part way open, it may be bypassing too much oil when the temps get high and the oil thins down. or possibily a portion of the closing device missing or broke off, out of alignment,,,, maybe a broken spring. i thought the oil sender was a good possibility.... boyd >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have an HKS 700 E on my Firestar. It has been showing low oil pressure. It was fine until I changed the oil, then immediately after the change the oil pressure light began flashing on my EIS. I could keep the pressure up at cruise speed, as I believed that it was a faulty sender. My last flight was "the Long Draw Fire" and I had to cut it short because I was having problems keeping the pressure high enough even at cruise. I parked it and ordered a new sender, enduring a long and extremely tedious hassle with Fed X in trying to get them to deliver the part. I finally got the sender tonight and it appears that the problem is not solved at all. I used a new filter, In fact two of them. One was a Napa Gold, and then a Carquest, hoping that it was just the filter. The oil is full synthetic 5W 40 as required. I have trouble with coincidences, and this one seems a bit strange. I am not sure that I have really flown it at the heats that we are enduring. I doubt that the temps have much to do with it as well. I am open to any suggestions at all. Larry ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: AN5H-31A prop bolts
From: "racerjerry" <gki(at)suffolk.lib.ny.us>
Date: Jul 28, 2012
What engine / gearbox are these bolts this for? AN5H denotes a 5/16 diameter bolt having 24 threads per inch NOT 20. 5/16 x 20 is not a standard American thread, but this size could easily be confused with a metric 8 x 1.25 mm bolt at least until you try to thread a standard nut onto it. The metric 1.25 pitch is equivalent to 20.32 threads per inch and in 8 mm diameter is VERY close in both diameter and pitch to your mystical 5/16 x 20 bolt. Another completely different thought: AN4H-31A, which is a 1/4 x 28 drilled head prop bolt, is a relatively common prop bolt for ultralight engines (at least it was listed in my old CPS catalog). Common American Bolt sizes (diameter & threads per inch) 1/4 -20 (NC) 1/4 - 28 (NF) < AN4 5/16 -18 (NC) 5/16 -24 (NF) < AN5 3/8 -16 (NC) 3/8 -24 (NF) < AN6 -------- Jerry King Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379399#379399 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 28, 2012
From: Phil <phactor9(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: AN5H-31A prop bolts
Hi Jerry: You have "hit the bolt on the head", so to speak. You are correct - I have determined I need the 8 x 1.25 x 80mm 10.9 grade b olt. They are very close indeed. Thank you for confirming what I just disco vered in the last 24 hours. This is for the CRE mz201 with 1.77:1 belt redu c. Phil H. --- On Sat, 7/28/12, racerjerry wrote: From: racerjerry <gki(at)suffolk.lib.ny.us> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: AN5H-31A prop bolts Date: Saturday, July 28, 2012, 8:02 AM What engine / gearbox are these bolts this for? AN5H denotes a 5/16 diameter bolt having 24 threads per inch =93 NOT 20. 5/16 x 20 is not a standard American thread, but this size could easily be confused with a metric 8 x 1.25 mm bolt =93 at least until you try to thread=C2- a standard nut onto it.=C2- The metric 1.25 pitch is equiva lent to 20.32 threads per inch and in 8 mm diameter is VERY close in both d iameter and pitch to your mystical =9C5/16 x 20=9D bolt. Another completely different thought: AN4H-31A, which is a 1/4 x 28 drilled head prop bolt, is a relatively commo n prop bolt for ultralight engines (at least it was listed in my old CPS ca talog). Common American Bolt sizes (diameter & threads per inch) 1/4 -20=C2- =C2- =C2-=C2-=C2-(NC) 1/4 - 28=C2- =C2- =C2- (NF)=C2-=C2-=C2-< AN4 5/16 -18=C2- =C2-=C2-=C2-(NC) 5/16 -24=C2- =C2-=C2-=C2-(NF)=C2-=C2-=C2-< AN5 3/8 -16=C2- =C2- =C2- (NC) 3/8 -24=C2- =C2- =C2- (NF)=C2- =C2- < AN6 -------- Jerry King Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379399#379399 S WEB FORUMS - on Web Site - =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin. ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: New Firestar II owner - question about elevator oscillations
From: "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com>
Date: Jul 28, 2012
Eric, Hope this helps, as a starting point. This seems to work well for pilots 180 to 220 pounds. My Kolb Firestar II 503 , just a 2 "x 7/1/2" piece of aluminum. -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379403#379403 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/elevator_trim__firestar_ii_003_545.jpg ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 28, 2012
From: frank goodnight <frank.goodnight(at)att.net>
Subject: Re: oil pressure problem
Hi Larry, Sorry to hear you are having problems with the HKS . I have always used Moble full synthetic 5w40 and a wix filter. 200 hrs and no problems. Have run it for 1 hr at 5,700 RPM with ground temps over 100 F--checking the new air scoops-- with no problems. CHT under 300 F and have to cover 1/2 my oil cooler to get the oil temp to 180. So if everything else is OK it's doubtful the hot weather is causing the problem . How many HRS on your engine ? and what are your temps? Hope yours is just a simple ( and cheap) fix. Keep us informed ,and good luck Frank firestar2 HKS 700E ________________________________ From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> Sent: Fri, July 27, 2012 7:58:30 PM Subject: Kolb-List: oil pressure problem I have an HKS 700 E on my Firestar. It has been showing low oil pressure. It was fine until I changed the oil, then immediately after the change the oil pressure light began flashing on my EIS. I could keep the pressure up at cruise speed, as I believed that it was a faulty sender. My last flight was "the Long Draw Fire" and I had to cut it short because I was having problems keeping the pressure high enough even at cruise. I parked it and ordered a new sender, enduring a long and extremely tedious hassle with Fed X in trying to get them to deliver the part. I finally got the sender tonight and it appears that the problem is not solved at all. I used a new filter, In fact two of them. One was a Napa Gold, and then a Carquest, hoping that it was just the filter. The oil is full synthetic 5W 40 as required. I have trouble with coincidences, and this one seems a bit strange. I am not sure that I have really flown it at the heats that we are enduring. I doubt that the temps have much to do with it as well. I am open to any suggestions at all. Larry -- If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending. ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: oil pressure problem
From: Gary Aman <zeprep251(at)aol.com>
Date: Jul 28, 2012
Larry, I would look at the relief valve.If you have the manual it might give you t he lube diagram showing where the valve is located.Sounds like the valve is held open. G.Aman -----Original Message----- From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> Sent: Fri, Jul 27, 2012 8:58 pm Subject: Kolb-List: oil pressure problem I have an HKS 700 E on my Firestar. It has been showing low oil pressure. I t was fine until I changed the oil, then immediately after the change the o il pressure light began flashing on my EIS. I could keep the pressure up at cruise speed, as I believed that it was a faulty sender. My last flight wa s "the Long Draw Fire" and I had to cut it short because I was having probl ems keeping the pressure high enough even at cruise. I parked it and ordere d a new sender, enduring a long and extremely tedious hassle with Fed X in trying to get them to deliver the part. I finally got the sender tonight an d it appears that the problem is not solved at all. I used a new filter, In fact two of them. One was a Napa Gold, and then a C arquest, hoping that it was just the filter. The oil is full synthetic 5W 4 0 as required. I have trouble with coincidences, and this one seems a bit s trange. I am not sure that I have really flown it at the heats that we are enduring. I doubt that the temps have much to do with it as well. I am ope n to any suggestions at all. Larry -- If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email addres s before sending. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 28, 2012
From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: AN5H-31A prop bolts
>...8.8 is the equivalant of grade 5, and 10.9 is pretty much the same as >our grade 8... Correct. FWIW, AN bolts are roughly equivalent to grade 5 or metric 8.8, but with more stringent quality control. Using bolts that are too strong can be almost as bad as too weak in some applications, as the stronger bolts can be more brittle than the softer ones. The fine thread of AN bolts can be unsuitable for redrives where the bolts thread into holes tapped into an aluminum prop hub as the fine threads can easily strip out of the aluminum. With nuts, they're fine. I've drilled out the tapped M6 holes in a PPG redrive to a clearance hole for 1/4" AN4 bolts with locknuts when the metric bolts (which were not drilled for safety wire) kept loosening, and you could do the same with M8 to 5/16 AN5. -Dana -- Many people are alive only because it's illegal to shoot them. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 28, 2012
Subject: Re: oil pressure problem
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>
Hi, I have somewhere around 150 hours. The temps stay around 300. I am getting a mechanical oil pressure gauge so I will know for sure what the pressure is. I will let you know. Larry On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 8:45 AM, frank goodnight wrote: > Hi Larry, > Sorry to hear you are having problems with the HKS . I have always used > Moble full synthetic 5w40 and a wix filter. > 200 hrs and no problems. Have run it for 1 hr at 5,700 RPM with ground > temps over 100 F--checking the new air scoops-- > with no problems. CHT under 300 F and have to cover 1/2 my oil cooler to > get the oil temp to 180. So if everything else is OK > it's doubtful the hot weather is causing the problem . How many HRS on > your engine ? and what are your temps? > Hope yours is just a simple ( and cheap) fix. > Keep us informed ,and good luck > Frank > firestar2 > HKS 700E > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Larry Cottrell > *To:* "kolb-list(at)matronics.com" > *Sent:* Fri, July 27, 2012 7:58:30 PM > *Subject:* Kolb-List: oil pressure problem > > I have an HKS 700 E on my Firestar. It has been showing low oil pressure. > It was fine until I changed the oil, then immediately after the change the > oil pressure light began flashing on my EIS. I could keep the pressure up > at cruise speed, as I believed that it was a faulty sender. My last flight > was "the Long Draw Fire" and I had to cut it short because I was having > problems keeping the pressure high enough even at cruise. I parked it and > ordered a new sender, enduring a long and extremely tedious hassle with Fed > X in trying to get them to deliver the part. I finally got the sender > tonight and it appears that the problem is not solved at all. > > I used a new filter, In fact two of them. One was a Napa Gold, and then a > Carquest, hoping that it was just the filter. The oil is full synthetic 5W > 40 as required. I have trouble with coincidences, and this one seems a bit > strange. I am not sure that I have really flown it at the heats that we > are enduring. I doubt that the temps have much to do with it as well. I am > open to any suggestions at all. > Larry > > -- > *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email > address before sending.* > > * > > * > > * > > * > > -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 29, 2012
Subject: Oil pressure problems with HKS
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>
I finally got a new VDO oil pressure sender from Fed x this last Friday after a Cluster @#&^%$ of epic proportions. I screwed it in and started the engine. While the pressure reading at idle was better, it was still low enough that it worried me. It was dropping lower and lower as the engine oil temps rose. I shut it off. It still bothered me that it should got belly up after an oil change, so this morning I went out again. I decided to put more oil in it just on the off chance that it was too low. The stick is bright alum and it is difficult to read with clean oil. As I was taking the paper towels that I stuff in my funnel to keep the dirt out of it, a inch and 1/4 long Scorpion made his escape from it. I then took an air hose and blew out the overflow relief tube. The tube runs over my root tube and down through the bottom of the cage. I started the engine and the pressure readings were in the 19 lb range. I ran it at idle in the hanger for a while to see if they would begin dropping as they did before. They stayed around 19 to 13 lbs, and at 136 degrees oil temps. I decided to push it outside and see what it would do at operating speeds. All seemed to be working properly, so I took off and at cruise it was showing between 44 and 52 lbs of pressure. I flew for about 30 minutes or more and the pressure stayed where it should be. I went up high and cut it back to idle and the pressure was steady at about 19 lbs. I am not sure if my overflow was plugged (manual troubleshooter suggests it as a problem concerning low oil pressure) or if I just didn't give the new one a proper test. I have been called a pessimist occasionally. Larry -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Oil pressure problems with HKS
From: "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jul 30, 2012
...overflow relief tube... Larry, I believe the HKS have a dry sump tank like the Rotax 912 series. If so, are you speaking of the oil tank vent tube? I believe that functions similarly for a dry sump engine as the crankcase vent does for wet sump engines, which could definitely be the cause of low oil pressure if clogged. We don't have any scorpions in this part of the country.... I'm not complaining :-). -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY (9G0) Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Tennessee Prop 64x32 Truth is what stands the test of experience. - Albert Einstein Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379560#379560 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Kolb Mark III Classic for Sale
From: "zeus627" <brad(at)mykcwireless.com>
Date: Jul 30, 2012
I've reduced the asking price for my plane to $13,500. This is a really nice plane and well worth the price. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379603#379603 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 30, 2012
Subject: Re: Oil pressure problems with HKS
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>
Yes the oil tank has a vent on top of the tank. I really believe that it was the sender itself. We really don't have many of the "Mud Dauber" types that you have back East. I flew for an hour and a half this morning and pressures were right where they should have been. I had discussed the problem with John H, and he said that if my pressures were as low as the sender was telling me, the engine would have been trashed. I have to agree. I had 160 hours on the original sender. Its nice to be back in the air. As you guy's may remeber I had bought a Drift HD camera, and one of the features of it is the ability to turn the lens so that the horizon is level. Well I put it on my hat just to practice with a new video program that I am trying. If anyone is interested I have some dramatic scenery shots of the Owyhee Canyon and the fire that ravaged so much of the area. You will need to be laying down however to see them. They seem to be 90 degrees off. Sigh! Pobody is Nerfect, I guess. Less than, Larry On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 5:04 AM, Thom Riddle wrote: > > ...overflow relief tube... > > Larry, > I believe the HKS have a dry sump tank like the Rotax 912 series. If so, > are you speaking of the oil tank vent tube? I believe that functions > similarly for a dry sump engine as the crankcase vent does for wet sump > engines, which could definitely be the cause of low oil pressure if clogged. > > We don't have any scorpions in this part of the country.... I'm not > complaining :-). > > -------- > Thom Riddle > Buffalo, NY (9G0) > Kolb Slingshot SS-021 > Jabiru 2200A #1574 > Tennessee Prop 64x32 > > Truth is what stands the test of experience. > - Albert Einstein > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379560#379560 > > -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Ken Holle's Mk IIIX goes home
Date: Jul 31, 2012
Urethane fuel line is notorious for failure in many different modes. Difficult to determine, at times, if the urethane line is serviceable or not. Seems to be "ultralight" fuel line because ultralights, weed eaters, and chain saws seem to be what uses it. I changed from urethane to neoprene rubber automotive fuel line many years ago. Had one main fuel line spring a leak this Spring after 20 years under the fuel tank on my MKIII. Top side fuel lines get changed out when I feel they are ready for replacement, primarily because of exposure to UV and heat when flying. 60 mph cruise at 5800 rpm is a little slow. My MKIII cruised 80 mph at 5800 rpm with its first engine, a Rotax 582. I flew this afternoon. 20 years later with a Rotax 912ULS it cruises between 80 and 85 mph. Guess the major difference is my MKIII is a classic and you were flying an Xtra??? Glad you had a safe flight. It was hot flying through your area three weeks ago. From weather reports and forecast today, it is much hotter now. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama ________________________________________________________________________________
From: WhiskeyVictor36(at)aol.com
Date: Jul 31, 2012
Subject: Re: Ken Holle's Mk IIIX goes home
Rick G, Just read your flight report. That was an outstanding write up and I really enjoyed reading it. Thanks for sharing the adventure. Bill Varnes Original Kolb FireStar Audubon NJ Do Not Archive In a message dated 7/31/2012 9:48:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com writes: Ken Holle's Mk IIIX went home Sunday afternoon. Actually it was Sunday afternoon and evening, it takes a long time to get anywhere at 65 mph. ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Ken Holle's Mk IIIX goes home
From: "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org>
Date: Aug 01, 2012
Well Done Sir, very enjoyable. Thank you. -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org Kingsport, TN 3TN0 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Hebrews 11:1 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379815#379815 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: A swivel tailwheel question
From: "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com>
Date: Aug 02, 2012
Has anyone switched to a swivel tail-wheel on their Kolb Firestar. If so what has been the result either positive or negative. Where can I locate one ? Thanks -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379896#379896 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: A swivel tailwheel question
From: Ellery Batchelder Jr <elleryweld(at)aol.com>
Date: Aug 02, 2012
You can get a nice tail wheel like that at TNK I put one on my firestar it was much easier to park it and much better to move around inside the shop it works much better that that Pizza cutter they originally come with Ellery Batchelder Jr. -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Thate <retroman(at)frontier.com> Sent: Thu, Aug 2, 2012 3:42 pm Subject: Kolb-List: A swivel tailwheel question Has anyone switched to a swivel tail-wheel on their Kolb Firestar. If so wh at has been the result either positive or negative. Where can I locate one ? Thanks -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist inve nts the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379896#379896 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: A swivel tailwheel question
From: David Kulp <undoctor(at)ptd.net>
Date: Aug 02, 2012
Ellery, how is it for doing Ubys on the runway? Narrow runway,,, Dave Kulp Sent from my iPhone On Aug 2, 2012, at 3:48 PM, Ellery Batchelder Jr wrote: > You can get a nice tail wheel like that at TNK I put one on my firestar i t was much easier to park it and much better to move around inside the shop i t works much better that that Pizza cutter they originally come with > Ellery Batchelder Jr. > -----Original Message----- > From: Dennis Thate <retroman(at)frontier.com> > To: kolb-list > Sent: Thu, Aug 2, 2012 3:42 pm > Subject: Kolb-List: A swivel tailwheel question > > > Has anyone switched to a swivel tail-wheel on their Kolb Firestar. If so w hat > has been the result either positive or negative. Where can I locate one ? > > > > Thanks > > -------- > Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist inv ents > the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379896#379896 > > > > > > > > get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List > > tp://forums.matronics.com > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 02, 2012
From: frank goodnight <frank.goodnight(at)att.net>
Subject: Re: A swivel tailwheel question
Hi Dennis , I switched to the full swivel Breakaway tail wheel that kolb sells ( $ 250 ). expensive-- but IMHO--worth the money. Had it about 125 hrs, no problems. Much easier ground handling And with the addition of 2 small braces helps prevent the vertical stabelizer breaking that sometimes happen to firestars. Frank Firestar II ________________________________ From: Dennis Thate <retroman(at)frontier.com> Sent: Thu, August 2, 2012 2:45:06 PM Subject: Kolb-List: A swivel tailwheel question Has anyone switched to a swivel tail-wheel on their Kolb Firestar. If so what has been the result either positive or negative. Where can I locate one ? Thanks -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379896#379896 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: A swivel tailwheel question
From: Ellery Batchelder Jr <elleryweld(at)aol.com>
Date: Aug 02, 2012
it will work just fine properly rigged, set it up so it will not unlock un till at full rudder deflection and you will be just fine Ellery Batchelder Jr. -----Original Message----- From: David Kulp <undoctor(at)ptd.net> Sent: Thu, Aug 2, 2012 4:17 pm Subject: Re: Kolb-List: A swivel tailwheel question Ellery, how is it for doing Ubys on the runway? Narrow runway,,, Dave Kulp Sent from my iPhone On Aug 2, 2012, at 3:48 PM, Ellery Batchelder Jr wrote : You can get a nice tail wheel like that at TNK I put one on my firestar it was much easier to park it and much better to move around inside the shop it works much better that that Pizza cutter they originally come with Ellery Batchelder Jr. -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Thate <retroman(at)frontier.com> Sent: Thu, Aug 2, 2012 3:42 pm Subject: Kolb-List: A swivel tailwheel question Has anyone switched to a swivel tail-wheel on their Kolb Firestar. If so wh at has been the result either positive or negative. Where can I locate one ? Thanks -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist inve nts the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379896#379896 get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: A swivel tailwheel question
From: Ellery Batchelder Jr <elleryweld(at)aol.com>
Date: Aug 02, 2012
Frank , I would recommend installing the tail post brackets on all Kolbs I just repaired one on a MK3C Ellery Batchelder Jr. -----Original Message----- From: frank goodnight <frank.goodnight(at)att.net> Sent: Thu, Aug 2, 2012 5:28 pm Subject: Re: Kolb-List: A swivel tailwheel question Hi Dennis , I switched to the full swivel Breakaway tail wheel that kolb sells ( $ 250 ). expensive-- but IMHO--worth the money. Had it about 125 hrs, no problems. Much easier ground handling And with th e addition of 2 small braces helps prevent the vertical stabelizer breaking that sometimes happen to firestars. Frank Firestar II From: Dennis Thate <retroman(at)frontier.com> Sent: Thu, August 2, 2012 2:45:06 PM Subject: Kolb-List: A swivel tailwheel question ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 02, 2012
From: chris davis <capedavis(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Silicone heatsink compound
David Kulp, Thank-you for the tube of heatsink it must have gotten on the wrong snail-,It was almost a week after our last email that i recieved i t ! thanks again=0AChris Davis=0AKXP 503 492 hrs=0AGlider Pilot=0ADisabled from crash building Firefly=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom : chris davis =0ATo: "kolb-list(at)matronics.com" =0ASent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 10:03 PM=0ASubject: Re: K olb-List: Silicone heatsink compound=0A=0A=0ADave did I get in in time? Chr is=0A=0A=0AChris Davis=0AKXP 503 492 hrs=0AGlider Pilot=0ADisabled from cra sh building Firefly=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: David Kulp =0ATo: kolb-list(at)matronics.com =0ASent: Saturday, Ju ly 14, 2012 4:13 PM=0ASubject: Kolb-List: Silicone heatsink compound=0A=0A- ers,=0A=0AI recently read the posts concerning anti-seize compound being ol d school and that silicone heatsink compound should be used to better trans fer heat between the plugs and cylinder head.- I got a good 10 tube deal on eBay and will have enough for this life and the next with one 5g tube, s o I would like to send a tube to the first 9 emails that I get with your na me and address.- All I want is assurance that you will use some on your K olb.=0A=0AGet ready.- Get set.- GO!!!=0A=0ADave Kulp=0ABethlehem, PA=0A FireFly 11DMK=0Aref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List" bsp; - - - - - - - - - - =========== == ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: MKIII classic trailering dimensions
From: "tombaisley" <tombaisley(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Aug 03, 2012
I'm converting a boat trailer to a flat bed so that I can pick up an MKIII classic w/ upgraded gear legs. Can anybody tell me what the dimensions (center to center) of the ; main gear track width? main gear to tail wheel? main gear to trailing edge of rudder? thanks Tom Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379934#379934 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: MKIII classic trailering dimensions
From: "tombaisley" <tombaisley(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Aug 04, 2012
The new to me MKIII classic is home in my driveway Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380055#380055 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 04, 2012
From: chris davis <capedavis(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: MKIII classic trailering dimensions
Tom You are a lucky man-!-=0AChris Davis=0AKXP 503 492 hrs=0AGlider Pil ot=0ADisabled from crash building Firefly=0A=0A=0A_________________________ _______=0AFrom: tombaisley <tombaisley(at)yahoo.com>=0ATo: kolb-list@matronics .com =0ASent: Saturday, August 4, 2012 8:02 PM=0ASubject: Kolb-List: Re: MK mbaisley" =0A=0AThe new to me MKIII classic is home i n my driveway=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums -======================== ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: MKIII classic trailering dimensions
From: "David d." <david(at)PaulowniaTrees.com>
Date: Aug 05, 2012
tombaisley wrote: > The new to me MKIII classic is home in my driveway > > Did ya fly it in there?? -------- Kolb Mark IIIX 582 Blue head Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380085#380085 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 05, 2012
Subject: Oil sender problems with HKS
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>
It appears that oil senders and the EIS systems do not get along very well. I am not at all sure that it is the EIS problem, more likely the senders. Perhaps a short recap might be in order. Every thing was fine until I changed my oil at 160 hours. After the oil change the pressure dropped and the warning light came on on my EIS telling me that I was only getting about 6 or 7 lbs of pressure at cruise. Obviously that was not the case as I was able to fly home with out seizing my engine. I ordered a new VDO, an exact copy of the one that came with the engine. I installed it and it did pretty well except that at idle on landing the pressure would drop to about 10 or sometimes single digits, again triggering the warning light. I finally followed Gerald Olenik's advice and bought a mechanical oil pressure gage. I just completed a flight and found that the pressure stayed constant at 70 lbs of pressure at cruise of 5400 RPM's at 74 degrees OAT and was steady at 25 lbs of pressure at idle. Now if I can only find a long enough tube to go from my rear engine to the front of my pod, I will be in business. Larry Cottrell Kolb Firestar II -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Kolb refueler Tank
From: "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com>
Date: Aug 05, 2012
My new handmade 14 gage stainless Steel 14 1/2 gallon handy Kolb re-fueler gas-tank, with a hand pump, .... just built it this afternoon ,using Mig and Tig welding methods. No more lifting ! -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380119#380119 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/gas_tank_019_405.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/gas_tank_009_202.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/gas_tank_015_152.jpg ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 06, 2012
From: jerb <ulflyer(at)verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Oil sender problems with HKS
Not sure of your experience level around aircraft - if you put in a tubing fed pressure gauge on your aircraft, one thing you need to add is a flow restrictor at the engine end. In the event the tubing should crack or break or become disconnected, the restrictor at the engine end restricts the loss of oil giving you time to land the aircraft. Also Imagine hot oil spraying on your lower body and legs, or next possible event, cockpit fire. This is done on certified aircraft. The restrictor is nothing more than a small component with a small hole in it to restrict the flow of oil but yet big enough to allow enough flow for pressure to build or fall at the gauge to register the pressure level changes. jerb At 11:32 AM 8/5/2012, you wrote: >It appears that oil senders and the EIS systems do not get along >very well. I am not at all sure that it is the EIS problem, more >likely the senders. Perhaps a short recap might be in order. > >Every thing was fine until I changed my oil at 160 hours. After the >oil change the pressure dropped and the warning light came on on my >EIS telling me that I was only getting about 6 or 7 lbs of pressure >at cruise. Obviously that was not the case as I was able to fly home >with out seizing my engine. I ordered a new VDO, an exact copy of >the one that came with the engine. I installed it and it did pretty >well except that at idle on landing the pressure would drop to about >10 or sometimes single digits, again triggering the warning light. > >I finally followed Gerald Olenik's advice and bought a mechanical >oil pressure gage. I just completed a flight and found that the >pressure stayed constant at 70 lbs of pressure at cruise of 5400 >RPM's at 74 degrees OAT and was steady at 25 lbs of pressure at idle. > >Now if I can only find a long enough tube to go from my rear engine >to the front of my pod, I will be in business. >Larry Cottrell >Kolb Firestar II > >-- >If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email >address before sending. > > ><http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List ><http://www.matronics.com/contribution>http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 06, 2012
From: frank goodnight <frank.goodnight(at)att.net>
Subject: 912 uls tbo
Hi All, Just bought a used 100hp rotax 912 uls. So far haven't been able to find the time before overhaul. Would someone please help? Thanks Frank ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "b young" <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: 912 uls tbo
Date: Aug 06, 2012
ok frank ill bite,, what are you going to put the 912s on? boyd ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: 912 uls tbo
Date: Aug 06, 2012
http://www.rotaxservice.com/rotax_tips/rotax_TBO.htm Jack in Key West Believe current TBO has been increased to 2,000 hours. Mandatory for LSA (certified) aircraft, but only "recommened TBO" for experimental homebuilts. No way would I tear down a good 912 series engine at 2,000 hours unless there was a foreseen or current problem. john h MKIII Roland, Oklahoma and heading West ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: 912 uls tbo
From: "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com>
Date: Aug 07, 2012
In most cases, TBO is only a recommendation even on type certificated engines and aircraft. The only hard and fast time-in-service or calendar/hour limitations appear under "Airworthiness Limitations", usually chapter 4 in the maintenance manual. If the TBO appears here it is a requirement, if not it is a recommendation. -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY (9G0) Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Tennessee Prop 64x32 Truth is what stands the test of experience. - Albert Einstein Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380264#380264 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 07, 2012
Subject: TBO's
From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com>
All, TBO is an advertising claim and nothing more. It doesn't matter who makes it, what they set it at, or anything else. Sometimes they make sense, other times they are ridiculous. Has anybody ever made the 1000 hours that Hirth claims? There is only one service directive that MUST be complied with and that is an Airworthiness Directive (AD) issued by the FAA. Even then you are allowed to find an alternate method of compliance (AMOC) if you can prove that it accomplishes the intent of the AD. Every other recommendation, and that is all they are, by a manufacturer is advisory in nature. I've attached Mike Busch's excellent article from the December 2011 issue of "Sport Aviation" that covers the subject quite well. Thanks to SA for allowing its republication here. All copyright and ownership of the article are theirs. Rick Girard -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: TBO's
From: "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Aug 07, 2012
"Safety Directives" from the company are also mandatory if they are a flight safety issue. So AD's from the FAA and SD's from the Mfg are mandatory. SB's, SA's and SI's are not compulsory even if they have mandatory stamped on them, but you'd be wise to heed them. Some Mfg's don't seem to understand the difference between an SB or an SD. -------- Roger Lee Tucson, Az. Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated Rotax Repair Center - Heavy Maint. Rated Home 520-574-1080 TRY HOME FIRST Cell 520-349-7056 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380277#380277 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: 912 uls tbo
From: "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Aug 07, 2012
912 TBO. Right around July 2006 the 912 series engine was allowed to go to a 2000 hr TBO with the replacement of the oil pressure regulator plug screw and spring and it was advisable to include the new oil pressure regulator cone, but not mandatory. All three parts cost around $80 and it took 5 minutes to replace them. The engines prior to this time still have the 1500 hr. TBO unless you not only changed the parts above, but the crankcase which made it cost prohibitive. The Rotax SB that addresses this is SB-912-057UL. This will give you the specific serial number cut off for the 1500 to the 2000 hr TBO. -------- Roger Lee Tucson, Az. Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated Rotax Repair Center - Heavy Maint. Rated Home 520-574-1080 TRY HOME FIRST Cell 520-349-7056 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380280#380280 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: TBO's
Date: Aug 07, 2012
From: "Lockamy, Jack CIV Atlantic Targets Marine Ops, AD.5.3.3 / Key West Det"
Since we are on the subject of ADs and SDs... are these REQUIRED for experimental (non-certified) aircraft or are they only required when the engine is installed on Certified Aircraft (ie. Cessnas, Pipers, etc.)? V/R, Jack L. Lockamy Deputy Site Manager NAVAIR ATMO Code 533100A NAS Key West, FL 33040 (305) 293-2078 office (305) 293-4345 FAX DSN 483-4343 (301) 997-6808 cell jack.lockamy(at)navy.mil -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Lee Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 9:55 Subject: Kolb-List: Re: TBO's "Safety Directives" from the company are also mandatory if they are a flight safety issue. So AD's from the FAA and SD's from the Mfg are mandatory. SB's, SA's and SI's are not compulsory even if they have mandatory stamped on them, but you'd be wise to heed them. Some Mfg's don't seem to understand the difference between an SB or an SD. -------- Roger Lee Tucson, Az. Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated Rotax Repair Center - Heavy Maint. Rated Home 520-574-1080 TRY HOME FIRST Cell 520-349-7056 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380277#380277 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 07, 2012
Subject: Re: Old New Ultrastar
From: David Peters <dpeters160(at)gmail.com>
Attached are pictures of my "new" old Ultrastar that my Dad built, and that we flew back in the late 80's, and early 90's. I am getting it ready to fly again. ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Old New Ultrastar
From: kinne russ <russk50(at)gmail.com>
Date: Aug 07, 2012
David Good on you, Mate! -- great project, getting an aircraft, old or not, flying again. Congratulations. I'm sure the Ultrastar appreciates it too, and will treat you kindly. She loox nice, good paint job. Recent? Good luck and fair winds, Russ K On Aug 7, 2012, at 3:06 PM, David Peters wrote: > Attached are pictures of my "new" old Ultrastar that my Dad built, and > that we flew back in the late 80's, and early 90's. I am getting it > ready to fly again. > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 07, 2012
Subject: Re: Old New Ultrastar
From: David Peters <dpeters160(at)gmail.com>
Thank you Russ. Everything is original. My Dad and I quit flying the thing when we started building our RV-4. Now I am going full circle! On Aug 7, 2012 1:24 PM, "kinne russ" wrote: > > David > Good on you, Mate! -- great project, getting an aircraft, old or not, > flying again. Congratulations. I'm sure the Ultrastar appreciates it too, > and will treat you kindly. She loox nice, good paint job. Recent? > Good luck and fair winds, > Russ K > > On Aug 7, 2012, at 3:06 PM, David Peters wrote: > > > Attached are pictures of my "new" old Ultrastar that my Dad built, and > > that we flew back in the late 80's, and early 90's. I am getting it > > ready to fly again. > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: TBO's
From: "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Aug 07, 2012
Experimental's are usually exempt, unless the FAA AD makes it a flight safety issue. -------- Roger Lee Tucson, Az. Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated Rotax Repair Center - Heavy Maint. Rated Home 520-574-1080 TRY HOME FIRST Cell 520-349-7056 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380342#380342 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 08, 2012
From: Malcolm Brubaker <brubakermal(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: delaware kolber
I'm looking for the guy that had the mk3 classic for sale on barnstormers =0Ait had a widened body and forward tubed landing gear w/ a older 912=0A -we will be in Delaware for the rest of the week and want to looking at i t =0APlease anybody that has this guys ph# please call me with it =0A-we are with limited Internet- access=0A=0AMalcolm & Jeanne Brubaker =0AMichi gan Sport Pilot Repair =0Ahttp://michigansportpilotrepair.com/ =0ALSRM-A, PPC, WS=0AGreat Sails - Sailmaker =0Afor Ultralight & Light Sport=0A(989)51 3-3022 =0A- =0A=0A=0A=0A =0A=0A________________________________=0A From: David Kulp =0ATo: "kolb-list(at)matronics.com" =0ASent: Monday, May 7, 2012 1:34 PM=0ASubject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: "Hypethetically"=0A =0A=0ALike I said, lights are on but nobody's hom e. He just doesn't get it.-=0ADave Kulp=0ABethlehem, PA=0A=0ASent from my iPhone=0A=0AOn May 7, 2012, at 1:12 PM, Michael Welch wrote:=0A=0A=0ADennis=0A>>"This is NOT Kolb-related!"=0A>>Russ=0A>=0A >=0A>=0A>=0A>Russ,-=0A>=0A>=0A>- I don't think it matters to him. -Se veral guys have tried, but nothing seems gets through to him.=0A>It's as if he thinks we're all his knitting circle, awaiting on his next little link of amazement.=0A>=0A>=0A>- Frankly, I'm not sure what bothers me more, hi s incessant non-Kolb links, or his fascination=0A>with "winking" at everyth ing he posts. -Evidently, he is okay with winking at a forum where 99%=0A >of the readers are men. -Personally, I'd rather be excluded from all the winking, it creeps me out!!=0A>I'm getting a case of the willies just thin king about it.=0A>=0A>=0A>Mike Welch=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A> >On May 6, 2012, at 8:38 PM, Dennis Thate wrote:=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>--> Kolb-Lis t message posted by: "Dennis Thate" =0A>>>=0A>>=0A>> >=0A>>[Wink] -:P=0A>>>=0A>>=0A>>>=0A> =0A>========== =0Aref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?Kolb-List=0A=============== ==================== ums.matronics. com">http://forums.matronics.com=0A============= =======================0Ahttp:/ /www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution=0A ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: delaware kolber
From: "tombaisley" <tombaisley(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Aug 08, 2012
I brought that plane, minus engine and instruments, home to Afton, NY this past weekend Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380417#380417 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 08, 2012
From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Old New Ultrastar
At 03:06 PM 8/7/2012, David Peters wrote: >Attached are pictures of my "new" old Ultrastar that my Dad built, and >that we flew back in the late 80's, and early 90's. I am getting it >ready to fly again. Cool! When you gonna be ready to fly it? Let me know when you're going to be at the airport in the evening. I had a nice flight last night, but few others were flying. -Dana -- Press any key to continue or any other key to quit... ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 08, 2012
From: Malcolm Brubaker <brubakermal(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: delaware kolber
good luck-- ill just keep looking- thamks for the info=0A=0A=0AMalcol m & Jeanne Brubaker =0AMichigan Sport Pilot Repair =0Ahttp://michigansport pilotrepair.com/ =0ALSRM-A, PPC, WS=0AGreat Sails - Sailmaker =0Afor Ultral ight & Light Sport=0A(989)513-3022 =0A- =0A=0A=0A=0A =0A=0A______________ __________________=0A From: tombaisley <tombaisley(at)yahoo.com>=0ATo: kolb-li st(at)matronics.com =0ASent: Wednesday, August 8, 2012 1:38 PM=0ASubject: Kolb ley" =0A=0AI brought that plane, minus engine and ins truments, home to Afton, NY this past weekend=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380417#380 =========================0A ====================== ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Icom External Antenna
From: Gary Aman <zeprep251(at)aol.com>
Date: Aug 10, 2012
This is actually covered in a March post from Boyd Young, but I need some m ore particulars if you don't mind.Looks like RG58, but what lengths do I st art with before tuning with the SWR meter Boyd? Thanx G.Aman -----Original Message----- From: b young <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com> Sent: Tue, Mar 22, 2011 2:57 pm Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Icom External Antenna I've got an icom A5 and would like to get an external antenna that I can mo unt on the belly of my Mark3. Anyone out have any good recommendations? my dipole center is at the left side bottom of the nose cone, the center w ire goes up the left side and accross the top. and the braided wire angels back on about a 45 deg under the floor. the position was selected to gi ve the best swr, and both wires were cut to give the best swr's. way che ep, way easy, and nothing sticking outside to get bumped or bent. one watt radio will talk 150 miles plane to plane. the signal report was good sign al but with some background noise. last week i had a hard time talking t o another plane (super cub) in the area,,, but one of the fbo's who was further away heard me ok and relayed to the super cub. made me think the r adio setup in the cub was not up to par. he could hear the fbo but the fbo is putting out 15 watts. boyd young mkiii ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Icom External Antenna
Date: Aug 10, 2012
From: "Lockamy, Jack CIV Atlantic Targets Marine Ops, AD.5.3.3 / Key West Det"
For a 1/4 wave antenna in the VHF Airband (118.0-136.0 MHz) about 20" will put you in the middle of the spectrum (127.0 MHz). Good luck. Jack in Key West -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Aman Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 15:33 Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Icom External Antenna This is actually covered in a March post from Boyd Young, but I need some more particulars if you don't mind.Looks like RG58, but what lengths do I start with before tuning with the SWR meter Boyd? Thanx G.Aman -----Original Message----- From: b young <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com> Sent: Tue, Mar 22, 2011 2:57 pm Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Icom External Antenna I've got an icom A5 and would like to get an external antenna that I can mount on the belly of my Mark3. Anyone out have any good recommendations? my dipole center is at the left side bottom of the nose cone, the center wire goes up the left side and accross the top. and the braided wire angels back on about a 45 deg under the floor. the position was selected to give the best swr, and both wires were cut to give the best swr's. way cheep, way easy, and nothing sticking outside to get bumped or bent. one watt radio will talk 150 miles plane to plane. the signal report was good signal but with some background noise. last week i had a hard time talking to another plane (super cub) in the area,,, but one of the fbo's who was further away heard me ok and relayed to the super cub. made me think the radio setup in the cub was not up to par. he could hear the fbo but the fbo is putting out 15 watts. boyd young mkiii ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 10, 2012
From: David Kulp <undoctor(at)ptd.net>
Subject: Re: Icom External Antenna
________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 10, 2012
From: David Kulp <undoctor(at)ptd.net>
Subject: Re: Icom External Antenna
________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 10, 2012
From: Frank Fanelli <frankf@flying-models.com>
Subject: Re: Icom External Antenna
One other item I'd like to find out is the best and maybe easiest way to suppress ignition noise. Is it necessary to go the full gamut and use resistor plugs, cap, and ignition lead shielding? Will strobes also add to the noise? Frank Fanelli On 8/10/2012 4:01 PM, Lockamy, Jack CIV Atlantic Targets Marine Ops, AD.5.3.3 / Key West Det wrote: > For a 1/4 wave antenna in the VHF Airband (118.0-136.0 MHz) about 20" will put you in the middle of the spectrum (127.0 MHz). > > Good luck. > > Jack in Key West > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Aman > Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 15:33 > To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Icom External Antenna > > This is actually covered in a March post from Boyd Young, but I need some more particulars if you don't mind.Looks like RG58, but what lengths do I start with before tuning with the SWR meter Boyd? > Thanx G.Aman > > > -----Original Message----- > From: b young<byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com> > To: kolb-list > Sent: Tue, Mar 22, 2011 2:57 pm > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Icom External Antenna > > > I've got an icom A5 and would like to get an external antenna that I can mount on the belly of my Mark3. Anyone out have any good recommendations? > > my dipole center is at the left side bottom of the nose cone, the center wire goes up the left side and accross the top. and the braided wire angels back on about a 45 deg under the floor. the position was selected to give the best swr, and both wires were cut to give the best swr's. way cheep, way easy, and nothing sticking outside to get bumped or bent. one watt radio will talk 150 miles plane to plane. the signal report was good signal but with some background noise. last week i had a hard time talking to another plane (super cub) in the area,,, but one of the fbo's who was further away heard me ok and relayed to the super cub. made me think the radio setup in the cub was not up to par. he could hear the fbo but the fbo is putting out 15 watts. > > boyd young > mkiii ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Icom External Antenna
From: Gary Aman <zeprep251(at)aol.com>
Date: Aug 10, 2012
Frank, I'm fighting the same issue with the Jabiru.Resistor plugs made no differen ce.Shutting the engine off helps the most. G.Aman -----Original Message----- From: Frank Fanelli <frankf@flying-models.com> Sent: Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:42 pm Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Icom External Antenna One other item I'd like to find out is the best and maybe easiest way to suppress ignition noise. Is it necessary to go the full gamut and use resistor plugs, cap, and ignition lead shielding? Will strobes also add to the noise? Frank Fanelli On 8/10/2012 4:01 PM, Lockamy, Jack CIV Atlantic Targets Marine Ops, AD.5.3.3 / Key West Det wrote: > For a 1/4 wave antenna in the VHF Airband (118.0-136.0 MHz) about 20" wil l put you in the middle of the spectrum (127.0 MHz). > > Good luck. > > Jack in Key West > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server @matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Aman > Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 15:33 > To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Icom External Antenna > > This is actually covered in a March post from Boyd Young, but I need some more particulars if you don't mind.Looks like RG58, but what lengths do I start with before tuning with the SWR meter Boyd? > Thanx G.Aman > > > -----Original Message----- > From: b young<byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com> > To: kolb-list > Sent: Tue, Mar 22, 2011 2:57 pm > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Icom External Antenna > > > I've got an icom A5 and would like to get an external antenna that I can mount on the belly of my Mark3. Anyone out have any good recommendations? > > my dipole center is at the left side bottom of the nose cone, the center wire goes up the left side and accross the top. and the braided wire angels bac k on about a 45 deg under the floor. the position was selected to give the be st swr, and both wires were cut to give the best swr's. way cheep, way easy , and nothing sticking outside to get bumped or bent. one watt radio will talk 15 0 miles plane to plane. the signal report was good signal but with some background noise. last week i had a hard time talking to another plane (s uper cub) in the area,,, but one of the fbo's who was further away heard me o k and relayed to the super cub. made me think the radio setup in the cub was not up to par. he could hear the fbo but the fbo is putting out 15 watts. > > boyd young > mkiii ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 10, 2012
From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Icom External Antenna
At 04:39 PM 8/10/2012, Frank Fanelli wrote: > >One other item I'd like to find out is the best and maybe easiest way to >suppress ignition noise. Is it necessary to go the full gamut and use >resistor plugs, cap, and ignition lead shielding? Will strobes also add to >the noise? You can use resistor plugs, OR resistor caps. Use both together and you can fry your ignition. Shielding always helps. For me, the combination of resistor plugs and the "ANL" setting (automatic noise limiter) on the radio is all I need. Strobes can add noise, but I don't notice any from mine. -Dana -- Congress shall make no law....What part of NO didn't you understand? ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "b young" <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Icom External Antenna
Date: Aug 10, 2012
Thanks Boyd, I wondered if I could use the same SWR meter that I had for CB? G.A. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> i am doubtfull.... cb is around 50 mhz,,, aircraft centers at 127 mhz,,, i dont think it will cover that mhz spread.( check the owners/ tech manual) check arrl.org,, and see if there is a ham radio club in your area,, can probabley get some help for free. \\\ boyd ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Icom External Antenna
Date: Aug 11, 2012
Frank, I'm fighting the same issue with the Jabiru.Resistor plugs made no difference.Shutting the engine off helps the most. G.Aman A large "capacitor" about 21,000 mf always worked best for me, 447, 582, and the 912 series engines. john h Del Norte, Colorado ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Icom External Antenna
Date: Aug 11, 2012
You can use resistor plugs, OR resistor caps. Use both together and you can fry your ignition -Dana -- Rotax 912 series engines use resistor plugs and caps. john h Del Norte, Colorado ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Icom External Antenna
From: Gary Aman <zeprep251(at)aol.com>
Date: Aug 11, 2012
John,Where is the best location for the capacitor? G.Aman -----Original Message----- From: John Hauck <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> Sent: Sat, Aug 11, 2012 2:33 pm Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Icom External Antenna Frank, I'm fighting the same issue with the Jabiru.Resistor plugs made no difference.Shutting the engine off helps the most. G.Aman A large "capacitor" about 21,000 mf always worked best for me, 447, 582, and the 912 series engines. john h Del Norte, Colorado ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 11, 2012
From: David Kulp <undoctor(at)ptd.net>
Subject: Re: Icom External Antenna
Matt, Kolbers, I tried to send a reply twice a couple of days ago and both came through with nothing in the message window. I sent the same reply to myself and it came through OK, so it seems there's a problem with the list. I'm also getting replys to subjects when I hadn't gotten the original post, so I seem to be missing some posts. I was responding to Boyd about lots of static on his Icom; I was unreadable to others with my Icom when I transmitted, although I could hear others just fine. I was told that the problem was that when I pushed the button on the Icom to talk I was transmitting both through the Icom handheld mic as well as the mic on my headset, and that if I got a Push To Talk button it would only pick up through my headset. I bought a PTT and now it works as it should. FWIW Dave Kulp Bethlehem, PA FireFly 11DMK On 8/11/2012 8:10 PM, Gary Aman wrote: > John,Where is the best location for the capacitor? > G.Aman > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Hauck <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> > To: kolb-list > Sent: Sat, Aug 11, 2012 2:33 pm > Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Icom External Antenna > > > > Frank, > I'm fighting the same issue with the Jabiru.Resistor plugs > made no difference.Shutting the engine off helps the most. > G.Aman > > > > A large "capacitor" about 21,000 mf always worked best for > me, 447, 582, and the 912 series engines. > > john h > Del Norte, Colorado > > > get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List > tp://forums.matronics.com > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > * > > > * ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 11, 2012
Subject: Re: Icom External Antenna
From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com>
What is the nature of your noise, a high pitched squeal is the alternator, a low pitched buzz is the ignition. The alternator will respond to the cap. Place it in the DC + line coming from you regulator going to the battery. Both sides of the wire are through the + terminal on the cap, the - terminal should go to engine ground. For ignition noise you need an inductor coil, you can probably find these from the custom car stereo shops. Rick Girard On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 7:10 PM, Gary Aman wrote: > John,Where is the best location for the capacitor? > G.Aman > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Hauck <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> > To: kolb-list > Sent: Sat, Aug 11, 2012 2:33 pm > Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Icom External Antenna > > > > > > Frank, > I'm fighting the same issue with the Jabiru.Resistor plugs > made no difference.Shutting the engine off helps the most. > G.Aman > > > A large "capacitor" about 21,000 mf always worked best for > me, 447, 582, and the 912 series engines. > > john h > Del Norte, Colorado > > > get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List > > tp://forums.matronics.com > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > * > > > * > > -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: The knitting circle
From: "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com>
Date: Aug 12, 2012
"I couldn't not feel more hurt after hearing that." [Wink] -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380734#380734 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/578837_375990802472965_267681902_n_188.jpg ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 12, 2012
Subject: Re: The knitting circle
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>
Dennis, I guess I am finding it hard to understand you or your goals. Most of us join this forum to discuss, share and perhaps learn about our Kolb aircraft. Yet your only apparent goal is to disrupt, disgust and irritate all on it. I am not sure what kind of twisted logic requires your actions or the rewards that you reap from them. Have a nice twisted day! Larry On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 7:11 AM, Dennis Thate wrote: > > "I couldn't not feel more hurt after hearing that." > > [Wink] > > -------- > Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist > invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380734#380734 > > > Attachments: > > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/578837_375990802472965_267681902_n_188.jpg > > -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "b young" <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Icom External Antenna
Date: Aug 12, 2012
What is the nature of your noise, a high pitched squeal is the alternator, a low pitched buzz is the ignition. The alternator will respond to the cap. Place it in the DC + line coming from you regulator going to the battery. Both sides of the wire are through the + terminal on the cap, the - terminal should go to engine ground. For ignition noise you need an inductor coil, you can probably find these from the custom car stereo shops. Rick Girard >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good reply rick if you add a capacitor between the inductor coil and the radio. that will be like belt and suspenders. and the closer you can put this to the radio. the less chance you will have for inductance interference getting into the wire after the filters. boyd ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Icom External Antenna
Date: Aug 12, 2012
John, Where is the best location for the capacitor? G.Aman Gary A/Kolbers: On the 12VDC side of the regulator/Rectifier. Attach to positive and negative. john h mkIII Del Norte, CO ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 12, 2012
From: Phil <phactor9(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Icom External Antenna
Isn't that the same as attaching it across the positive terminal of the key ignition and negative battery terminal (or ground)? So that the cap is acr oss the battery positive and negative terminals, but only-when the master is on? - --- On Sun, 8/12/12, John Hauck wrote: From: John Hauck <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Icom External Antenna Date: Sunday, August 12, 2012, 6:59 PM John, Where is the best location for the capacitor? G.Aman Gary A/Kolbers: On the 12VDC side of the regulator/Rectifier.- Attach to positive and negative. john h mkIII Del Norte, CO le, List Admin. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 12, 2012
From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Icom External Antenna
At 02:33 PM 8/11/2012, John Hauck wrote: > > > You can use resistor plugs, OR resistor caps. Use both >together and you can fry your ignition >-Dana > >Rotax 912 series engines use resistor plugs and caps. I stand corrected. I guess it's a matter of what the ignition is designed for. It IS a problem on some 2-strokes, though. -Dana -- Don't steal. The IRS hates competition. ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Icom External Antenna
From: Gary Aman <zeprep251(at)aol.com>
Date: Aug 12, 2012
Thanks, I'll give it a try. G.A. -----Original Message----- From: John Hauck <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> Sent: Sun, Aug 12, 2012 7:01 pm Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Icom External Antenna John, Where is the best location for the capacitor? G.Aman Gary A/Kolbers: On the 12VDC side of the regulator/Rectifier. Attach to positive and negative. john h mkIII Del Norte, CO ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 13, 2012
Subject: A new flight video
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>
https://vimeo.com/47431258 the password is owyheeflyer Larry -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: A new flight video
From: "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com>
Date: Aug 13, 2012
Larry, You've out-done yourself. Best video yet! Nice to see some greenery in your part of the world. -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY (9G0) Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Tennessee Prop 64x32 Truth is what stands the test of experience. - Albert Einstein Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380814#380814 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 13, 2012
Subject: Re: A new flight video
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>
Thanks, I had flown that Canyon three other times in an attempt to get a video of it. Each time for some reason, mostly because I didn't check the batteries on my other camera, did not get it. I first went in there to check for Golden Eagle nests. A group here in Oregon were doing Eagle surveys and I felt that the Kolb would be perfect to get to some of the "out of the way spots" Well there is an Eagle there, but I have always been too busy "looking" to actually pinpoint the nest. :-) Larry On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 5:05 AM, Thom Riddle wrote: > > Larry, > You've out-done yourself. Best video yet! Nice to see some greenery in > your part of the world. > > -------- > Thom Riddle > Buffalo, NY (9G0) > Kolb Slingshot SS-021 > Jabiru 2200A #1574 > Tennessee Prop 64x32 > > Truth is what stands the test of experience. > - Albert Einstein > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380814#380814 > > -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: A new flight video
From: "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org>
Date: Aug 13, 2012
Very nice. Thank you. -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org Kingsport, TN 3TN0 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Hebrews 11:1 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380822#380822 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Icom External Antenna
Date: Aug 13, 2012
I stand corrected. I guess it's a matter of what the ignition is designed for. It IS a problem on some 2-strokes, though. -Dana Dana/Kolbers: I ran Bosch platinum resistor plugs in my 447. Worked much better than the NGK standard plug. I also used Bosch spark plug wires and resistor metal caps. Used to buy a set of wires for a 1976 Volvo. That would give me two complete wire sets. Had to do that so the caps would fit the plug shape. john h mkIII Del Norte, Colorado ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Icom External Antenna
Date: Aug 13, 2012
Isn't that the same as attaching it across the positive terminal of the key ignition and negative battery terminal (or ground)? So that the cap is across the battery positive and negative terminals, but onlywhen the master is on? Phil/Kolbers: I mount mine directly behind the reg/rec on the 12VDC side. john h mkIII Del Norte, Colorado ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: A new flight video
From: Brad Nation <nationcap(at)comcast.net>
Date: Aug 13, 2012
Nice! Sent from my iPad Brad On Aug 13, 2012, at 0:01, Larry Cottrell wrote: > https://vimeo.com/47431258 > > the password is owyheeflyer > > Larry > > -- > If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email addre


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