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Date: Aug 13, 2012
Subject: video
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>
https://vimeo.com/47499154 This video is a portion of the flight that I took when I shot the "Flight down Jordan Creek". They were both a bit underexposed, and I will adjust that for future videos. It is possibly due to the extremely smoky conditions from all the fires. When I got back from the flight, I had a call from a contract fire company and am now driving a Water Tender keeping one of the "spike camps" supplied with water to mix for the heli's. Its the first job that I have had since retiring. The hours are a bit long though. password is still -- owyheeflyer -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 14, 2012
From: chris davis <capedavis(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: video
Larry Nice video I love the music and I always love to see the shadow of my Kolb on the ground! Chris=0A=0A=0AChris Davis=0AKXP 503 492 hrs=0AGlider P ilot=0ADisabled from crash building Firefly=0A=0AFrom: Larry Cottrell <lcot trell1020(at)gmail.com>=0ATo: =0ASent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 1:41 AM=0ASubj ect: Kolb-List: video=0A=0A=0Ahttps://vimeo.com/47499154- =0A=0AThis vide o is a portion of the flight that I took when I shot the "Flight down Jorda n Creek". They were both a bit underexposed, and I will adjust that for fut ure videos. It is possibly due to the extremely smoky conditions from all t he fires.=0A=0AWhen I got back from the flight, I had a call from a contrac t fire company and am now driving a Water Tender keeping one of the "spike camps" supplied with water to mix for the heli's. Its the first job that I have had since retiring. The hours are a bit long though.=0A=0Apassword is still -- -owyheeflyer-=0A=0A-- =0AIf you forward this email, or any par ========== ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "b young" <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Icom External Antenna
Date: Aug 15, 2012
Gary Aman wrote "This is actually covered in a March post from Boyd Young, but I need some more particulars if you don't mind.Looks like RG58, but what lengths do I start with before tuning with the SWR meter Boyd? Thanx G.Aman " Gary Aman and the group Gary had posted this picture of my antenna attached 'boyd-antenna.jpg' I got to the airport yesterday and what I measured was, the center conductor seemed as best as I could measure "21 1/2 inches" the braid should be just as long but I would have had to remove all the floor panels to measure it. attached are some more pictures of the installation. 'Braid-location.jpg' shows the coax which is RG58 with bnc connector,,, as it goes to the left front of the nose cone. ( the length of the coax is not critical, long enough to reach without kinks and pulls but the shorter the better, the length of the center conductor and braid is critical. with the center conductor length being most critical) also it shows the braid of the coax angling back to under the floor panels. (I had to try different angles to get the best swr. 'antenna-center.jpg' shows the center conductor going up vertical along the left side of the nose cone. and the braid doubling back through the fabric. antennaleft.jpg shows the mid section of the antenna center conductor vertical up the left side and across the top. 'antennaend.jpg' shows the antenna going across the top of the nosecone. the antenna end in the photo coming from the right side is my elt antenna, and the black long rubber duck in the front is my ham radio tracker. with the tracker running, my wife can check my progress on long trips so she does not have to worry. and if the track stops in the middle of nowhere, she knows where to send the search. you can see I mounted the center conductor as well as the braid in short sections of drinking straw siliconed to the inside of the nose cone. sections of duct tape were used in the trials. but with time would fall off. the 21 1/2 inches is the finished measurement + or - my measuring skills while standing on my head, over under around and through the rudders peddles and nose cone. I started with 25 inches and cut to length and changed position of both the center conductor and braid, while using an antenna analyzer that our ham radio club owns. it is not the perfect location and I am sure I could improve radio coverage with an external antenna and a better ground plane. but it works well enough for my needs. boyd young kolb mkiii n1225y ham radio extra n7wfm ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Icom External Antenna
From: Gary Aman <zeprep251(at)aol.com>
Date: Aug 15, 2012
Thanks Boyd, That's pretty much the way I installed it.So far I have'nt found a SWR to t une it with,but it did.not interfere with flying because i just switch the coax at the radio,a quick change from one antenna to the other. Thanks for all the pics.I appreciate all your efforts. G.Aman, P S Marj s ays say hi to Becky! -----Original Message----- From: b young <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com> Sent: Wed, Aug 15, 2012 11:05 am Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Icom External Antenna Gary Aman wrote "This is actually covered in a March post from Boyd Young, but I need some more particulars if you don't mind.Looks like RG58, but wha t lengths do I start with before tuning with the SWR meter Boyd? Thanx G.Aman " Gary Aman and the group Gary had posted this picture of my antenna attached 'boyd-antenna.jpg' I got to the airport yesterday and what I measured was, the center conduc tor seemed as best as I could measure "21 1/2 inches" the braid should be just as long but I would have had to remove all the floor panels to measure it. attached are some more pictures of the installation. 'Braid-location.jpg' shows the coax which is RG58 with bnc connector,,, a s it goes to the left front of the nose cone. ( the length of the coax is not critical, long enough to reach without kinks and pulls but the shorte r the better, the length of the center conductor and braid is critical. wi th the center conductor length being most critical) also it shows the bra id of the coax angling back to under the floor panels. (I had to try diffe rent angles to get the best swr. 'antenna-center.jpg' shows the center conductor going up vertical along th e left side of the nose cone. and the braid doubling back through the fabri c. antennaleft.jpg shows the mid section of the antenna center conductor ve rtical up the left side and across the top. 'antennaend.jpg' shows the antenna going across the top of the nosecone. the antenna end in the photo coming from the right side is my elt antenna, and the black long rubber duck in the front is my ham radio tracker. w ith the tracker running, my wife can check my progress on long trips so she does not have to worry. and if the track stops in the middle of nowhere, she knows where to send the search. you can see I mounted the center conductor as well as the braid in short se ctions of drinking straw siliconed to the inside of the nose cone. section s of duct tape were used in the trials. but with time would fall off. the 21 1/2 inches is the finished measurement + or - my measuring skill s while standing on my head, over under around and through the rudders pe ddles and nose cone. I started with 25 inches and cut to length and chan ged position of both the center conductor and braid, while using an antenn a analyzer that our ham radio club owns. it is not the perfect location and I am sure I could improve radio coverage with an external antenna and a better ground plane. but it works well enough for my needs. boyd young kolb mkiii n1225y ham radio extra n7wfm ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: western Pa fly in
From: "awcbs" <awcbsone(at)windstream.net>
Date: Aug 15, 2012
Since the UL's and Lsa's have really picked up in this area we have decided to have the first annual fly in at McIntyre Pa private air strip. Slated for Aug 31, thru sept 3. bring a tent and tie downs, or just stop in for a day. will have food drink, fire and good company. Google 15756 and look for the dog leg runway. New north south runway should be completed by then. Drive-in's welcome. we have a firefly and a mix of other ul's based there. anything that flys is welcome. contact me if ya have any questions, AJ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=381000#381000 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "George Bearden" <gab16(at)sbcglobal.net>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 08/11/12
Date: Aug 16, 2012
> I wondered if I could use the same SWR meter I am not an expert, but after looking at the way the SWR meter works I would think it isn't sensitive to frequency, and that it should work. Worth a try anyway. GeoB ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "George Bearden" <gab16(at)sbcglobal.net>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 08/11/12
Date: Aug 16, 2012
> A large "capacitor" about 21,000 mf always worked Large is always good. I don't know diddly about the 912 but on other similar problems I have found a handful of small caps liberally sprinkled about the system works well too. A thing that just flashed on me... what if you disconnected the electronics from the airplane electrical system in order to determine how much of the problem comes from the power supply. Maybe you could temporarily power stuff from a small battery, as a test. This might help you focus your attention if the problem is in the power being supplied. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "b young" <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com>
Subject: rf swr meters
Date: Aug 16, 2012
> I wondered if I could use the same SWR meter I am not an expert, but after looking at the way the SWR meter works I would think it isn't sensitive to frequency, and that it should work. Worth a try anyway. GeoB >>>>>>>>>>>>> GO TO http://www.martinrfsupply.com/ and on the 4th line down on the left are pictures of the bird rf watmeters elements..... each element is for a different frequency and or power setting. so in short the answer is swr meters are different for different frequencies... unless you buy one that has interchangeable elements. or read the meter specification pages and see if it will work,,, there may be ( I haven't seen any) some conversion charts in the spec pages that would allow you to figure the correct readings if you are out of frequency ranges of the meter. find a ham radio club, and ask for help. probably get help for free... or buy the correct equipment. boyd young kolb mkiii driver and ham radio operator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 16, 2012
From: Malcolm Brubaker <brubakermal(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: clasic or extra for sale$$
were looking for a 4 stroke kolb xtra or clasic-. cheking -barnstormers adds all thi time. -have been hopping the rite deal comes along.-- f eel free to call if anyone has something they would consider selling.-- - mal-- call any time=0A=0A=0AMalcolm & Jeanne Brubaker =0AMichigan S port Pilot Repair =0Ahttp://michigansportpilotrepair.com/ =0ALSRM-A, PPC, WS=0AGreat Sails - Sailmaker =0Afor Ultralight & Light Sport=0A(989)513-302 2 =0A- =0A=0A=0A=0A =0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Gary Aman =0ATo: kolb-list(at)matronics.com =0ASent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 5:58 PM=0ASubject: Re: Kolb-List: Icom External Antenna=0A =0A=0AThanks Boyd,=0AThat's pretty much the way I installed it.So far I ha ve'nt found a SWR to tune it with,but it did.not interfere with flying beca use i just switch the coax at the radio,a quick change from one antenna to the other.=0AThanks for all the pics.I appreciate all your efforts. G.Aman, P S - Marj says say hi to Becky!=0A=0A-----Original Message-----=0AFrom: b young =0ATo: kolb-list =0ASent: Wed, Aug 15, 2012 11:05 am=0ASubject: Re: Kolb-List: Icom Extern al Antenna=0A=0A=0AGary Aman wrote "This is actually covered in a March pos t from Boyd Young, but I need some =0Amore particulars if you don't mind.Lo oks like RG58, but what lengths do I start =0Awith before tuning with the S WR meter Boyd?=0AThanx G.Aman =0A"=0A=0A =0A- =0AGary Aman and the group =0A- =0AGary had posted-this picture of my =0Aantenna-- attached- 'boyd-antenna.jpg' =0A=0AI got to the airport yesterday and what I measure d =0Awas,-- the center conductor seemed as best as I could measure "21 1/2 =0Ainches"- the braid should be just as long but I would have had to remove =0Aall the floor panels to measure it.- =0A=0Aattached are some m ore pictures of the =0Ainstallation. =0A=0A'Braid-location.jpg'-- shows the coax =0Awhich is RG58 with bnc connector,,, as it goes to the left fro nt of the nose =0Acone.- ( the length of the coax -is not critical,- long enough to =0Areach without kinks and pulls but the shorter the better, - the length of =0Athe center conductor and braid is critical. with the c enter conductor length =0Abeing most critical)---also it =0Ashows the braid of the coax angling back to under the floor panels.- (I had =0Ato try different angles to get the best swr. =0A- =0A'antenna-center.jpg'- shows the center =0Aconductor going up vertical along the left side of the nose cone. and the braid =0Adoubling back through the fabric. =0A- =0Aan tennaleft.jpg-- shows the mid section =0Aof the antenna center conducto r- vertical up the left side and across the =0Atop. =0A- =0A'antennaend .jpg'- shows the antenna going =0Aacross the top of the nosecone.-- t he antenna end-in the =0Aphoto-coming from the right side is my elt ant enna,- and the =0Ablack- long rubber duck in the front is my ham radio tracker.-- =0Awith the tracker running, my wife can check my progress o n long trips so she =0Adoes not have to worry.- and if the track stops in the middle of nowhere, =0Ashe knows where to send the search. =0A- =0Ayo u can see I mounted the center conductor as well =0Aas the braid in short s ections of drinking straw siliconed to the inside of the =0Anose cone.- s ections of duct tape were used in the trials. but with time =0Awould fall o ff. =0A- =0Athe 21 1/2 inches is the finished =0Ameasurement-- +-or --- my measuring skills while =0Astanding on my head,- over under ar ound and through the rudders- =0Apeddles and nose cone.-- I started w ith 25 inches and cut to =0Alength- and changed position-of both the ce nter conductor and braid, =0A-while using an antenna analyzer that our ha m radio club =0Aowns.--- it is not the perfect location and I am sure I could =0Aimprove radio coverage with an external antenna and a better gr ound plane.- =0Abut it works well enough for my needs. =0A- =0Aboyd you ng =0Akolb mkiii-- n1225y =0Aham- radio extra- n7wfm =0A- =0A- ================== ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 17, 2012
Subject: Re: rf swr meters
From: Duane Ransdell <radiobluebook(at)gmail.com>
SWR meters ARE sensitive to frequency. They are designed to only work inside a specific range of frequencies and no a CB SWR meter will not work. The CB band is pretty well centered around 27 MHz and aircraft band is mostly around the 122 range depending what you are using it for. Boyd is right. Find a amateur radio person in your neighborhood and they will likely be more than happy to help you out with this little project. This is what we love to do. I've built many antennas and there is something beautiful about a well tuned antenna. Duane On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 4:35 PM, b young wrote: > > > > I wondered if I could use the same SWR meter > > I am not an expert, but after looking at the way the SWR meter works I > would > think it isn't sensitive to frequency, and that it should work. Worth a try > anyway. > > GeoB > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > GO TO > > > http://www.martinrfsupply.com/ > > and on the 4th line down on the left are pictures of the bird rf > watmeters elements..... each element is for a different frequency and or > power setting. so in short the answer is swr meters are different for > different frequencies... unless you buy one that has interchangeable > elements. or read the meter specification pages and see if it will > work,,, there may be ( I haven't seen any) some conversion charts in the > spec pages that would allow you to figure the correct readings if you are > out of frequency ranges of the meter. > > find a ham radio club, and ask for help. probably get help for free... > or buy the correct equipment. > > boyd young > kolb mkiii driver and > ham radio operator > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: clasic or extra for sale$$
Date: Aug 17, 2012
Hi Malcolm. if you want to import from the UK an immaculate Extra with Jabiru and only 90 hours from new. I am your man. Nothing is selling in the UK at the moment. Guess the squeeze is hitting us all. Pat ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Jmmy Hankinson" <jhankin(at)planters.net>
Subject: Ultrlight Classification
Date: Aug 17, 2012
1 - 0 of null <http://news.yahoo.com/heres-100m-now-catch-those-drug-smuggling-ultralights -163443426--abc-news-topstories.html#prev> prev <http://news.yahoo.com/heres-100m-now-catch-those-drug-smuggling-ultralights -163443426--abc-news-topstories.html#next> next <http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=AiOIOu.56OfaQvItPzjyXfimWot4;_ylu=X3oDMTFrZGl0 ZTU5BG1pdANBQkMgYmFubmVyIEhUTUwEcG9zAzEEc2VjA01lZGlhRnJlZUh0bWxFZGl0b3JpYWw- ;_ylg=X3oDMTMwaDViajBkBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDYWIxODFmZjMtNTU3Mi 0zY2M1LThkNjQtMTk0NzNjZWYwNjlmBHBzdGNhdANlbnRlcnRhaW5tZW50BHB0A3N0b3J5cGFnZQ --;_ylv=0/SIG=11alorc4l/EXP=1346414548/**http%3A/abcnews.go.com/> http://l.yimg.com/a/p/us/news/editorial/0/f5/0f56837344e8b7c95a5a954ebb28ec7 f.png The ultralight's use by smugglers has become so ubiquitous that Congress recently updated (2012) their definition of "aircraft" to include ultralights and, therefore, make those caught smuggling drugs with them subject to the same penalties as other aircraft under the Tariff Act of 1930 <http://uscode.house.gov/download/pls/19C4.txt> . The legislation, known as the Ultralight Aircraft Smuggling Prevention Act of 2012, was the last bill sponsored by Rep. Gabrielle Giffords U.S. Customs and Border Patrol is spending big - just under $100 million - to combat drug smugglers who use small aircraft worth only a few thousand dollars Last week the CBP awarded SRCTec , a New York-based research and development company, a $99,955,087.00 contract for a real-time detection system that is specifically designed to pick out ultralight aircrafts, slow-speed rudimentary manned planes that have a very small radar signature, on America's southern border. Often little more than an airframe and engine - that can be bought online or constructed at home from kits for a few thousand dollars. Ultralights do not require a pilot's license Did someone forget to tell us that. This was reported by ABC news. Thought this might be of interest to the list. Jimmy Hankinson Rocky Ford, Ga. 912 863 7384 N6007L, Firefly JYL Sylvania, Ga. ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: RE: Kolb-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 08/11/12
From: Gary Aman <zeprep251(at)aol.com>
Date: Aug 17, 2012
George, Tried that first,found that the GPS was sending a signal through it's power cord that the radio antenna was picking up.Put chokes on the radio power c ord and the radio antenna lead that helped a bunch.Chokes on the GPS power cord did not seem to help.Some noise can be stopped by covering the headpho ne adapters with my hand.The intercom has a double filtered power supply an d it is quiet.The caps for the radio power and alternator output are next. Thanx G.A. PS got the squelch from (icom a5) from 10 down to 4 so far,but weak signals still come in with engine noise from the Jabiru's electric's. )-----Original Message----- From: George Bearden <gab16(at)sbcglobal.net> Sent: Thu, Aug 16, 2012 4:01 pm Subject: Kolb-List: RE: Kolb-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 08/11/12 > A large "capacitor" about 21,000 mf always worked Large is always good. I don't know diddly about the 912 but on other simila r problems I have found a handful of small caps liberally sprinkled about the system works well too. A thing that just flashed on me... what if you disconnected the electronics from the airplane electrical system in order to determine how much of the problem comes from the power supply. Maybe you could temporarily power stuf f from a small battery, as a test. This might help you focus your attention i f the problem is in the power being supplied. ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: rf swr meters
From: Gary Aman <zeprep251(at)aol.com>
Date: Aug 17, 2012
Boyd, Installed your antenna at 25" using my old cb SWR meter.Cut the center lead off in 1/4" increments until it was down to 23" and I quit there because t he meter still showed deep in the red at 3.5 and was not changing with the trimming.That's when I figured the meters must be different.I have a chart that shows the length of the antenna for frequency desired.123.475 comes ou t to be 22 3/8 approx.It received OK and could transmitt but this was not i n the air or at any great distance just to another hand held on the field a nd I was afraid I might damage the radio so I quit experimenting . Thanx G .A. -----Original Message----- From: b young <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com> Sent: Thu, Aug 16, 2012 5:41 pm Subject: Kolb-List: rf swr meters > I wondered if I could use the same SWR meter I am not an expert, but after looking at the way the SWR meter works I woul d think it isn't sensitive to frequency, and that it should work. Worth a try anyway. GeoB >>>>>>>>>>>>> GO TO http://www.martinrfsupply.com/ and on the 4th line down on the left are pictures of the bird rf watmeters elements..... each element is for a different frequency and or power setting. so in short the answer is swr meters are different for differen t frequencies... unless you buy one that has interchangeable elements. o r read the meter specification pages and see if it will work,,, there may be ( I haven't seen any) some conversion charts in the spec pages that would allow you to figure the correct readings if you are out of frequency ranges of the me ter. find a ham radio club, and ask for help. probably get help for free... o r buy the correct equipment. boyd young kolb mkiii driver and ham radio operator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 17, 2012
Subject: Flyin at Houghton Lake
From: Rick Neilsen <neilsenrm(at)gmail.com>
Chris I was hoping to make it for at least part of the flyin this week end but doesn't look good right now. Could you repost the schedule for the week end. Rick Neilsen Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "George Bearden" <gab16(at)sbcglobal.net>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 08/16/12
Date: Aug 17, 2012
> SWR meters ARE sensitive to frequency. Yes. You guys are right. > They are designed to only work inside a specific range But we don't know what type of SWR meter another fellow might lay hands on. Some work better over a wider range than others. I would think that if you weren't sure, you could just put a 50 ohm dummy load (or whatever your system is designed to work with) on there and see if it shows a zero RSWR. But I am not an educated, experienced ham guy. I'm sure this is not the best suggestion for this situation. ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: New Firestar II owner - question about elevator oscillations
From: "EricS" <eric_savener(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Aug 17, 2012
I called Kolb and talked to Brian and he had the same suggestions as those above. I tried them all and eventually what worked is the trim tab. I built the trim tab so that it adds nose up pitch per Brian's instructions. My 503 Firestar now trims out around 54 mph and 5,400 RPM versus 63 mph and 5,800 prior to adding the trim tab. The elevator has never fluttered at this slow speed. Now when I pitch forward to increase speed, there is additional control cable tension and stick pressure. Basically, the pilot HAS to keep a hand on the stick to maintain 63-65 mph - the area where the elevator used to occasionally flutter in turbulence. I am slowly building my "bump" tolerance for winds and thermals, but the elevator has not fluttered in any conditions since adding the trim tab, so for now at least, I consider the problem solved. Thanks again for everyone's input, Eric Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=381106#381106 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 17, 2012
Subject: Re: RE: Kolb-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 08/16/12
From: Duane Ransdell <radiobluebook(at)gmail.com>
I would not recommend any guessing in this situation or you are likely going to ruin your radio. The 50 ohm dummy load is not going to do you any good with your antenna. It is only designed to help you with your transmitter. Any SWR meter (except maybe the CB type) will tell you what frequency range(s) it will cover and the power it will handle. Someone mentioned the Bird meters before and those have to have the corresponding 'slug' to measure the target frequency. They are probably some of the highest quality meters out there. Here's one I found on eBay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/THRULINE-BIRD-WATTMETER-MODEL-43-W-ACCESSORIES-50W-5000W-SLUGS-/370639039238?pt=US_Radio_Comm_Meters&hash=item564bceeb06 Another popular one is the MFJ-259b. *http://www.mfjenterprises.com/Product.php?productid=MFJ-259B *I don't know if anyone has said this already, but in case anyone does not understand, the lower the SWR, the better your antenna will work on transmit. Many people believe that you have to have power to transmit further, but it is actually far more important to have a well tuned antenna than more power.* *SWR or Standing Wave Ratio over simplified means the ratio of how much power is emitted from the antenna vs how much is reflected back to the transmitter. Too high of SWR will ruin the final amplifier circuit of your transmitter. Some radios have a built in protection circuit so they will not transmit with higher than 3:1 SWR. There are many amateur radio clubs around the country and unless you are in a highly rural area, there is probably one near you. Use the link below and look for a club in your area. Email or phone the contact person in that club as I'm sure they would be happy to find someone to help you out with this. http://www.arrl.org/find-a-club Seriously! Amateur Radio operators are to radios what Kolb pilots are to experimental flying. Just think how eager you would be to help a newby pilot learn how to fly or get their plane flying. That's how amateur radio guys are about antennas and radios. It's their passion. On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 2:58 PM, George Bearden wrote: > > > SWR meters ARE sensitive to frequency. > > Yes. You guys are right. > > > They are designed to only work inside a specific range > > But we don't know what type of SWR meter another fellow might lay hands on. > Some work better over a wider range than others. I would think that if you > weren't sure, you could just put a 50 ohm dummy load (or whatever your > system is designed to work with) on there and see if it shows a zero RSWR. > But I am not an educated, experienced ham guy. I'm sure this is not the > best > suggestion for this situation. > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: RE: Kolb-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 08/16/12
From: Gary Aman <zeprep251(at)aol.com>
Date: Aug 17, 2012
Thanks, I'll try to contact a ham op in my area. GA -----Original Message----- From: Duane Ransdell <radiobluebook(at)gmail.com> Sent: Fri, Aug 17, 2012 7:38 pm Subject: Re: Kolb-List: RE: Kolb-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 08/16/12 I would not recommend any guessing in this situation or you are likely goin g to ruin your radio. The 50 ohm dummy load is not going to do you any good with your antenna. It is only designed to help you with your transmitter. Any SWR meter (except maybe the CB type) will tell you what frequency range (s) it will cover and the power it will handle. Someone mentioned the Bird meters before and those have to have the corresponding 'slug' to measure th e target frequency. They are probably some of the highest quality meters ou t there. Here's one I found on eBay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/THRULINE-BIRD-WATTMETER-MODEL-43-W-ACCESSORIES-50W- 5000W-SLUGS-/370639039238?pt=US_Radio_Comm_Meters&hash=item564bceeb06 Another popular one is the MFJ-259b. http://www.mfjenterprises.com/Product.php?productid=MFJ-259B I don't know if anyone has said this already, but in case anyone does not u nderstand, the lower the SWR, the better your antenna will work on transmit . Many people believe that you have to have power to transmit further, but it is actually far more important to have a well tuned antenna than more po wer. SWR or Standing Wave Ratio over simplified means the ratio of how much powe r is emitted from the antenna vs how much is reflected back to the transmit ter. Too high of SWR will ruin the final amplifier circuit of your transmit ter. Some radios have a built in protection circuit so they will not transm it with higher than 3:1 SWR. There are many amateur radio clubs around the country and unless you are in a highly rural area, there is probably one near you. Use the link below an d look for a club in your area. Email or phone the contact person in that c lub as I'm sure they would be happy to find someone to help you out with th is. http://www.arrl.org/find-a-club Seriously! Amateur Radio operators are to radios what Kolb pilots are to ex perimental flying. Just think how eager you would be to help a newby pilot learn how to fly or get their plane flying. That's how amateur radio guys a re about antennas and radios. It's their passion. On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 2:58 PM, George Bearden wrote : > SWR meters ARE sensitive to frequency. Yes. You guys are right. > They are designed to only work inside a specific range But we don't know what type of SWR meter another fellow might lay hands on. Some work better over a wider range than others. I would think that if you weren't sure, you could just put a 50 ohm dummy load (or whatever your system is designed to work with) on there and see if it shows a zero RSWR. But I am not an educated, experienced ham guy. I'm sure this is not the bes t suggestion for this situation. arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List http://forums.matronics.com le, List Admin. ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "b young" <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com>
Subject: antennas
Date: Aug 17, 2012
Another popular one is the MFJ-259b. instead of buying an swr meter,,,, an antenna analyzer is an other good tool..... it is basically a transmitter that will go from 2 MHz to 500 MHz,,, and as you adjust the frequency,,, it will report the swr along the way. it is very low power, it will help find the resonant frequency of any antenna. so if you find a ham radio club,,, ask if they have an analyzer, makes it really fast and easy. boyd young ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "George Bearden" <gab16(at)sbcglobal.net>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 08/17/12
Date: Aug 18, 2012
> The 50 ohm dummy load is not going to do you any good with your antenna. Of course not. I used it to take the antenna away as a variable. A dummy-load can be useful to your antenna *SYSTEM* though. > It is only designed to help you with your transmitter. My screwdriver is designed to turn screws but I use it for all kinds of things. What I suggested isn't good for this situation, as I noted, since the asker isn't a radio person (neither am I) but since other folks read these posts I mentioned how it COULD be used. I thought the rest of your post was wonderful, however. GeoB ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "George Bearden" <gab16(at)sbcglobal.net>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 08/17/12
Date: Aug 18, 2012
> an antenna analyzer is an other good tool..... Yes! IMHO the analyzer is a much better tool for this. GeoB ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: A swivel tailwheel question
From: "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com>
Date: Aug 18, 2012
Thanks for the helpful suggestions. I went with a Matco. The Kolb handles so much better....more like a real taildragger. on my narrow strip. " I would recommend installing the tail post brackets on all Kolbs I just Ellery Batchelder Jr. " Can you show a picture of this tail post brackets ? -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=381160#381160 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/matco_tailwheel_143.jpg ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: A swivel tailwheel question
From: Gary Aman <zeprep251(at)aol.com>
Date: Aug 18, 2012
-----Original Message----- From: Dennis Thate <retroman(at)frontier.com> Sent: Sat, Aug 18, 2012 1:40 pm Subject: Kolb-List: Re: A swivel tailwheel question Thanks for the helpful suggestions. I went with a Matco. The Kolb handles so much better....more like a real taildragger. on my narrow strip. " I would recommend installing the tail post brackets on all Kolbs I just Ellery Batchelder Jr. " Can you show a picture of this tail post brackets ? -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist inve nts the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=381160#381160 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/matco_tailwheel_143.jpg ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 18, 2012
Subject: Re: A swivel tailwheel question
From: David Peters <dpeters160(at)gmail.com>
Could you provide the part number of the Marco tailwheel assembly pictured; I don't seem to be able to find the same on the internet. Thank you. On Aug 18, 2012 5:03 PM, "Gary Aman" wrote: > [image: tail braces 003.JPG] > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dennis Thate <retroman(at)frontier.com> > To: kolb-list > Sent: Sat, Aug 18, 2012 1:40 pm > Subject: Kolb-List: Re: A swivel tailwheel question > > > Thanks for the helpful suggestions. I went with a Matco. The Kolb handles so > much better....more like a real taildragger. > on my narrow strip. > > " I would recommend installing the tail post brackets on all Kolbs I just > > Ellery Batchelder Jr. " > > Can you show a picture of this tail post brackets ? > > -------- > Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents > the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern > > > Read this topic online here: > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=381160#381160 > > > Attachments: > http://forums.matronics.com//files/matco_tailwheel_143.jpg > > > get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List > tp://forums.matronics.com > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Tail Post supports
From: Ellery Batchelder Jr <elleryweld(at)aol.com>
Date: Aug 18, 2012
here is a PIC of the tail post supports that I think John Hauck came up wit h the tail wheel is much better than that Pizza cutter and it does make it handle more like a tail dragger Ellery Batchelder Jr. -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Thate <retroman(at)frontier.com> Sent: Sat, Aug 18, 2012 1:40 pm Subject: Kolb-List: Re: A swivel tailwheel question Thanks for the helpful suggestions. I went with a Matco. The Kolb handles so much better....more like a real taildragger. on my narrow strip. " I would recommend installing the tail post brackets on all Kolbs I just Ellery Batchelder Jr. " Can you show a picture of this tail post brackets ? -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist inve nts the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=381160#381160 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/matco_tailwheel_143.jpg ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Tail Post supports
From: "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com>
Date: Aug 19, 2012
Thanks for the photo Ellery. I beefed up to a thicker aluminum wall tubing and a larger and thicker steel welded gusset and it's all covered up...... I've put it to the test and it seems to have done the trick. -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=381224#381224 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/stronger_gusset_141.jpg ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List Digest: tail wheel
Date: Aug 19, 2012
I installed a matco tailwheel on my slingshot. Had a lot of trouble ground looping cause the wheel would 'break' too easily. Ted C Ted C/Kolbers: Do you have differential braking? I'd have a difficult time flying my mkIII without differential brakes. john h Sargents, Colorado ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "vic" <vicsv(at)myfairpoint.net>
Subject: Re: clasic or extra for sale$$
Date: Aug 19, 2012
I have a ELSA Extra finished in 2008 85 hrs, 350 hrs 912ul. 1260 lotus floats with rudders, some rigging available, was never fit to this craft. They need a little inexpensive repair. Also have a set of 1650's for parts. $25K Vic In Maine 207-723-8441 ---- Original Message ----- From: Malcolm Brubaker To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 7:05 PM Subject: Kolb-List: clasic or extra for sale$$ were looking for a 4 stroke kolb xtra or clasic . cheking barnstormers adds all thi time. have been hopping the rite deal comes along. feel free to call if anyone has something they would consider selling. mal call any time Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker Michigan Sport Pilot Repair http://michigansportpilotrepair.com/ LSRM-A, PPC, WS Great Sails - Sailmaker for Ultralight & Light Sport (989)513-3022 From: Gary Aman <zeprep251(at)aol.com> To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 5:58 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Icom External Antenna Thanks Boyd, That's pretty much the way I installed it.So far I have'nt found a SWR to tune it with,but it did.not interfere with flying because i just switch the coax at the radio,a quick change from one antenna to the other. Thanks for all the pics.I appreciate all your efforts. G.Aman, P S Marj says say hi to Becky! -----Original Message----- From: b young <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com> To: kolb-list Sent: Wed, Aug 15, 2012 11:05 am Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Icom External Antenna Gary Aman wrote "This is actually covered in a March post from Boyd Young, but I need some more particulars if you don't mind.Looks like RG58, but what lengths do I start with before tuning with the SWR meter Boyd? Thanx G.Aman " Gary Aman and the group Gary had posted this picture of my antenna attached 'boyd-antenna.jpg' I got to the airport yesterday and what I measured was, the center conductor seemed as best as I could measure "21 1/2 inches" the braid should be just as long but I would have had to remove all the floor panels to measure it. attached are some more pictures of the installation. 'Braid-location.jpg' shows the coax which is RG58 with bnc connector,,, as it goes to the left front of the nose cone. ( the length of the coax is not critical, long enough to reach without kinks and pulls but the shorter the better, the length of the center conductor and braid is critical. with the center conductor length being most critical) also it shows the braid of the coax angling back to under the floor panels. (I had to try different angles to get the best swr. 'antenna-center.jpg' shows the center conductor going up vertical along the left side of the nose cone. and the braid doubling back through the fabric. antennaleft.jpg shows the mid section of the antenna center conductor vertical up the left side and across the top. 'antennaend.jpg' shows the antenna going across the top of the nosecone. the antenna end in the photo coming from the right side is my elt antenna, and the black long rubber duck in the front is my ham radio tracker. with the tracker running, my wife can check my progress on long trips so she does not have to worry. and if the track stops in the middle of nowhere, she knows where to send the search. you can see I mounted the center conductor as well as the braid in short sections of drinking straw siliconed to the inside of the nose cone. sections of duct tape were used in the trials. but with time would fall off. the 21 1/2 inches is the finished measurement + or - my measuring skills while standing on my head, over under around and through the rudders peddles and nose cone. I started with 25 inches and cut to length and changed position of both the center conductor and braid, while using an antenna analyzer that our ham radio club owns. it is not the perfect location and I am sure I could improve radio coverage with an external antenna and a better ground plane. but it works well enough for my needs. boyd young kolb mkiii n1225y ham radio extra n7wfm http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?============= ======== ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Kolb-List Digest: tail wheel
From: "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com>
Date: Aug 19, 2012
John, The only time I use my brakes in flight is just after lift-off. My wheel are spinning so fast that they set up a strong vibration which shakes the whole plane. My tires are worn down considerable, hopefully this annoyance will cease when I get new better balanced tires on my Kolb. -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=381245#381245 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List Digest: tail wheel
Date: Aug 19, 2012
The only time I use my brakes in flight is just after lift-off. My wheel are spinning so fast that they set up a strong vibration which shakes the whole plane. Kolbers: Golf cart, lawn mower, and other off road/slow speed tires are not trued and balanced prior to leaving the factory. Aircraft quality tires are trued and balanced prior to delivery. Even then, aircraft tires and wheels will require balancing after mounting. john h mkIII Sargents, Colorado ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Tail Post supports
From: Ellery Batchelder Jr <elleryweld(at)aol.com>
Date: Aug 19, 2012
in your pic you dont have the supports that show in my pic, thicker aluminu m tubing will not help the area of failure you had better take another look at my pic the supports I am talking about are attached to the big Ring tha t slips over the end of the tail boom tube under the elevators attachment p oints and attach to the bottom tube that your tail wheel rod slides into th is will help this vertical Tube from breaking under side load pressure Ellery Batchelder Jr. -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Thate <retroman(at)frontier.com> Sent: Sun, Aug 19, 2012 7:54 am Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Tail Post supports Thanks for the photo Ellery. I beefed up to a thicker aluminum wall tubing and a larger and thicker ste el welded gusset and it's all covered up...... I've put it to the test and it seems to have done the trick. -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist inve nts the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=381224#381224 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/stronger_gusset_141.jpg ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Tail Post supports
From: "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com>
Date: Aug 19, 2012
Ellery, I respectfully disagree. The non-turnable Pizza Cutter tail wheel puts a side torque on the lower tail-fin midway, so when forced into a tight turn, it will break, where as a swivel wheel eliminates this problem. Take note where mine broke in two places. I don't believe your concept would offer any solution to this, because you are reinforcing it in the wrong location. Hope this photo helps clarify things. -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=381274#381274 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/two_fractures_101.jpg ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Flyin at Houghton Lake
From: "ces308" <ces308(at)ldaco.com>
Date: Aug 19, 2012
Rick.... I pulled the plug on this Thursday night when the weatherman predicted 20-30 mph winds with lake effect rain showers though Saturday night.Friday was crappy,but Saturday was nothing like they said it would be... Imagine that....I will be out of town this coming weekend.Maybe this fall I will try it again,but it will be a Saturday event. I was really looking forward to this and will certainly try it again.I will let you know in advance ! chris ambrose M3X / Jabiru A-2200 N327CS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=381290#381290 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 19, 2012
Subject: Re: Tail Post supports
From: Rick Neilsen <neilsenrm(at)gmail.com>
Dennis I have never seen that kind of breakage. I have to ask if plane was built to specifications. My MKIIIC has a fairly strong .125 wall bottom tube that has in most Kolbs kept that kind of breakage from happening. Normally we see side loads causing the problems Ellery has described the fix for. I have had the turning bogie wheel and now the locking/swivel tail wheel on my MKIIIC both of these wheels can produce the side loads that can cause long term failure of the tail post without the fix. Rick Neilsen Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Dennis Thate wrote: > > Ellery, > > I respectfully disagree. The non-turnable Pizza Cutter tail wheel puts a > side torque on the lower tail-fin midway, so when forced into a tight turn, > it will break, where as a swivel wheel eliminates this problem. > > Take note where mine broke in two places. I don't believe your concept > would offer any solution to this, because you are reinforcing it in the > wrong location. > > Hope this photo helps clarify things. > > -------- > Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist > invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=381274#381274 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/two_fractures_101.jpg > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Tail Post supports
From: Ellery Batchelder Jr <elleryweld(at)aol.com>
Date: Aug 19, 2012
Thank You Rick I have just repaired my second Tail post on a different kol b in the same place and this is no longer a problem area with the side loa d supports just my experience but results may differ from other views Ellery Batchelder Jr. -----Original Message----- From: Rick Neilsen <neilsenrm(at)gmail.com> Sent: Sun, Aug 19, 2012 9:32 pm Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tail Post supports Dennis I have never seen that kind of breakage. I have to ask if plane was built t o specifications. My MKIIIC has a fairly strong .125 wall bottom tube that has in most Kolbs kept that kind of breakage from happening. Normally we s ee side loads causing the problems Ellery has described the fix for. I have had the turning bogie wheel and now the locking/swivel tail wheel on my MK IIIC both of these wheels can produce the side loads that can cause long te rm failure of the tail post without the fix. Rick Neilsen Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Dennis Thate wrote : Ellery, I respectfully disagree. The non-turnable Pizza Cutter tail wheel puts a si de torque on the lower tail-fin midway, so when forced into a tight turn, i t will break, where as a swivel wheel eliminates this problem. Take note where mine broke in two places. I don't believe your concept woul d offer any solution to this, because you are reinforcing it in the wrong l ocation. Hope this photo helps clarify things. -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist inve nts the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=381274#381274 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/two_fractures_101.jpg arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List http://forums.matronics.com le, List Admin. ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Tail Post supports
Date: Aug 19, 2012
Thank You Rick I have just repairedmy second Tail post on a different kolb in the same place and this is no longer a problem area with the side load supports just my experience but results may differ from other views Ellery Batchelder Jr. Kolbers: We can thank Dan Horton, one of my flying buddies, for coming up with the tail post fix. Can't remember how many times we repaired and modified my mkIII tail post until Dan came up with the idea of adding external bracing. Haven't had any problem with mine since. john h mkIII Sargents, Colorado ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 20, 2012
From: Malcolm Brubaker <brubakermal(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Flyin at Houghton Lake
let me know about houghton lake we love that fly in- barstow is sep8 and we are having a camp out the weekend of Remax Baloon fest sep14- mal=0A =0A=0AMalcolm & Jeanne Brubaker =0AMichigan Sport Pilot Repair =0Ahttp://m ichigansportpilotrepair.com/ =0ALSRM-A, PPC, WS=0AGreat Sails - Sailmaker =0Afor Ultralight & Light Sport=0A(989)513-3022 =0A- =0A=0A=0A=0A =0A=0A_ _______________________________=0A From: ces308 <ces308(at)ldaco.com>=0ATo: ko lb-list(at)matronics.com =0ASent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 7:55 PM=0ASubject: K olb-List: Re: Flyin at Houghton Lake=0A =0A--> Kolb-List message posted by : "ces308" =0A=0ARick....=0A=0AI pulled the plug on this Thursday night when the weatherman predicted 20-30 mph winds with lake effe ct rain showers though Saturday night.Friday was crappy,but Saturday was no thing like they said it would be... Imagine that....I will be out of town t his coming weekend.Maybe this fall I will try it again,but it will be a Sat urday event.=0A=0AI was really looking forward to this and will certainly t ry it again.I will let you know in advance !=0A=0Achris ambrose=0AM3X / Jab iru A-2200=0AN327CS=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp:// forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=381290#381290=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A ============== ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 20, 2012
From: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart(at)onlyinternet.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List Digest: tail wheel
> > >I'd have a difficult time flying my mkIII without >differential brakes. > John, Why do you need differential brakes for flying? Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Tail Post supports
From: Gary Aman <zeprep251(at)aol.com>
Date: Aug 20, 2012
Rick, My FS broke the lower aluminum tube flush with the steel just like the pict ure.I reinforced it using a thicker tube and months later it broke at the s teel tube up by the ring as in the photo.If you just push on the top of the tail post you can quickly identify the side loads that affect these tubes even WITH a swivel tail wheel.I am a believer in these braces but It looks like no one but me feels that way about the tail spring clamp. IMHO G.Aman MK3C jabiru 2200A 740hrs -----Original Message----- From: Ellery Batchelder Jr <elleryweld(at)aol.com> Sent: Sun, Aug 19, 2012 10:09 pm Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tail Post supports Thank You Rick I have just repaired my second Tail post on a different kol b in the same place and this is no longer a problem area with the side loa d supports just my experience but results may differ from other views Ellery Batchelder Jr. -----Original Message----- From: Rick Neilsen <neilsenrm(at)gmail.com> Sent: Sun, Aug 19, 2012 9:32 pm Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tail Post supports Dennis I have never seen that kind of breakage. I have to ask if plane was built t o specifications. My MKIIIC has a fairly strong .125 wall bottom tube that has in most Kolbs kept that kind of breakage from happening. Normally we s ee side loads causing the problems Ellery has described the fix for. I have had the turning bogie wheel and now the locking/swivel tail wheel on my MK IIIC both of these wheels can produce the side loads that can cause long te rm failure of the tail post without the fix. Rick Neilsen Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Dennis Thate wrote : Ellery, I respectfully disagree. The non-turnable Pizza Cutter tail wheel puts a si de torque on the lower tail-fin midway, so when forced into a tight turn, i t will break, where as a swivel wheel eliminates this problem. Take note where mine broke in two places. I don't believe your concept woul d offer any solution to this, because you are reinforcing it in the wrong l ocation. Hope this photo helps clarify things. -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist inve nts the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=381274#381274 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/two_fractures_101.jpg arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List http://forums.matronics.com le, List Admin. ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Lanny Fetterman" <donaho1(at)verizon.net>
Subject: Tail post support question
Date: Aug 20, 2012
I have been reading this thread with great interest .Perhaps I missed this information, what material are you using to make the braces? Lanny, FS II ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Kolb-List Digest: tail wheel
From: "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com>
Date: Aug 20, 2012
With a full swivel tailwheel and differential brakes, ground handling in tight places is very easy and I'm glad I have them on my Slingshot. Balancing wheels/tires is pretty simple with the go-kart wheel balancer. -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY (9G0) Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Tennessee Prop 64x32 Truth is what stands the test of experience. - Albert Einstein Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=381351#381351 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/tailwheel_466.jpg ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List Digest: tail wheel
Date: Aug 20, 2012
Why do you need differential brakes for flying? Jack B. Hart FF004 Jack H/Kolbers: I start logging flight time when I start the engine. Taxi, takeoff, and landing, are part of the "big picture" of flying. Sorry if you did not understand. What did you think I meant? Gary A: There are times when I wished I had had "dem air brakes". ;-) john h mkIII Sargents, Colorado ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "George Bearden" <gab16(at)sbcglobal.net>
Subject: RE: Flyin at Houghton Lake
Date: Aug 21, 2012
I have some NOS fiberglass pontoons available cheap. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 21, 2012
From: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart(at)onlyinternet.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List Digest: tail wheel
> > > >Why do you need differential brakes for flying? > >Jack B. Hart FF004 > > > >Jack H/Kolbers: > >I start logging flight time when I start the engine. Taxi, >takeoff, and landing, are part of the "big picture" of >flying. Sorry if you did not understand. > John, I did understand. Again, why do you need differential brakes? I hangar and fly from airports, and many of my testing actual flight times are less than the accumulated time required to taxi in and out. Also, when leaving from a flyin, the queue may be as much as a half hour long. I only record actual flight time with a stick mounted timer to prevent inflating actual flight time. Also, this gives me more reliable data from which I can calculate a more accurate fuel consumption rate. Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 21, 2012
Subject: Re: Kolb-List Digest: tail wheel
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>
I am not John, but let me tell you why I need differential brakes. Mine are not as fancy as John's, ( mine are the mechanical drums, with a homemade dual bicycle brake levers) but without them I am out in the weeds every time I want to turn around. I also use them when I am turning corners such as when I make a 90 degree turn to park inside the hanger. I suppose that I could do without them if I was operating on a nice pave runway that is wide enough for spam cans, but I don't. In other words they make my life a lot easier, and mean that I don't have to get out to turn the plane around. Perhaps there are those who are skilled enough to manage without them, but alas, I am just a "brush" pilot. Plus I really don't give a shit how much they weigh. Larry On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 7:42 PM, Jack B. Hart wrote: > > > > > > > > >Why do you need differential brakes for flying? > > > >Jack B. Hart FF004 > > > > > > > >Jack H/Kolbers: > > > >I start logging flight time when I start the engine. Taxi, > >takeoff, and landing, are part of the "big picture" of > >flying. Sorry if you did not understand. > > > > John, > > I did understand. Again, why do you need differential brakes? > > I hangar and fly from airports, and many of my testing actual flight times > are less than the accumulated time required to taxi in and out. Also, when > leaving from a flyin, the queue may be as much as a half hour long. I only > record actual flight time with a stick mounted timer to prevent inflating > actual flight time. Also, this gives me more reliable data from which I > can > calculate a more accurate fuel consumption rate. > > Jack B. Hart FF004 > Winchester, IN > > -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List Digest: tail wheel
Date: Aug 21, 2012
I did understand. Again, why do you need differential brakes? I hangar and fly from airports, and many of my testing actual flight times are less than the accumulated time required to taxi in and out. Also, when leaving from a flyin, the queue may be as much as a half hour long. I only record actual flight time with a stick mounted timer to prevent inflating actual flight time. Also, this gives me more reliable data from which I can calculate a more accurate fuel consumption rate. Jack B. Hart FF004 Jack H/Kolbers: I need the differential brakes to help me control the aircraft on the ground. Jack, you can legally log flight time from the time you turn the prop until the time the prop stops after you land. Start up and shut down are part of that flight. If you want to log "actual in flight time", that is fine with me. ;-) In the event of an engine failure, do you punch the clock off? john h mkIII Sargents, Colorado ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Kolb-List Digest: tail wheel
From: "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com>
Date: Aug 22, 2012
For what is worth, "time in service" records (for maintenance) should reflect airborne time. This is why some time recording meters/instruments begin recording based on airspeed and/or micro switches that activate when wheels are off the ground. Of course for experimental and UL aircraft this only matters if you care about the difference. -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY (9G0) Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Tennessee Prop 64x32 Truth is what stands the test of experience. - Albert Einstein Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=381507#381507 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 22, 2012
From: David Kulp <undoctor(at)ptd.net>
Subject: BRS soft pack and gap seal conundrum
OK Kolbers, Got one for you! Brother Don built an aluminum gap seal when he built my FlagFly. I bought a BRS soft pack, which fits in the gap and takes the shape of the wing from the leading edge back about 10". In order for the rocket, which is behind the gap seal, to pull the 'chute from the soft pack, which is beneath the gap seal, I cut some of the aluminum that covered it and replaced it with Dacron, held down with Velcro. If the circumstance arose that I needed to use it, the rocket would blast off and drag the 'chute through the Dacron, which would give way due to the Velcro. Unfortunately, the hot sun has melted the glue on the Velcro and it's pretty much a gooey mess any more, so I got a sheet of plexiglass to make another gap seal, and bent it to fit, intending to attach it with short bungies to the BRS frame. Although the rocket is behind the plexiglass, the 'chute is beneath it. What I'm figuring on doing is tracing the area of the plexiglass that needs to give if the 'chute is pulled and cut it almost completely off, but leaving a few tabs of uncut material, like two in front and one on each side at the very rear. If the 'chute is pulled the nylon strap that attaches the ballistic projectile from the rocket to the 'chute should break off the rear tabs and when the "trapdoor" opens the front two tabs will either hinge or break away, as well. Then I can drift slowly back to earth. If anyone has another idea, or has done it a different way, I'd really like to hear from you. Dave Kulp Bethlehem, PA FireFly 11DMK PS Another consideration is that the nylon strap may easily lift and bend the gap seal from the rear and to simply use small gauge bungies to hold it down. It would likely remain in place with nothing holding it since the wind actually pushes the gap seal tighter into place, and all the bungies would do is hold the back edge down so it doesn't vibrate or flap in the wind. Another way might be to cut slots from side to side at the front of the soft pack to make a hinge in case the whole gap seal doesn't detach from the leading edge of the wing... I'd like more minds to mull this over. Thanks. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: BRS soft pack and gap seal conundrum
Date: Aug 22, 2012
I'd like more minds to mull this over. Thanks. David K/Kolbers: BRS has some material called frangible hair cell plastic. It is black, about 1/8" thick. I have been using it for my parachute exit for the last 12 years. Had to replace the original about two or three years ago. The plastic is scored on the bottom side with a utility knife where the rocket will strike and where the deployment bag will exit the pack tray. I used a piece of 1/8" 6061 plate to drop the rocket 5" so it would be inside my gap seal. I built the last gap seal out of aluminum sheet, cutting a hole in the top the same size as the pack tray plus the rocket. The frangible plastic is secured to the top of the top of the gap seal with hardware store aluminum pop after a bead of silicone seal is placed around the perimeter of the plastic. Last I heard, the BRS soft pack repack time is extended from 2 to 10 years as long as the parachute is stored in a weather tight compartment. john h mkIII Sargents, Colorado ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 22, 2012
From: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart(at)onlyinternet.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List Digest: tail wheel
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 19:57:40 -0600 From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> > ..................... Perhaps there are those who are skilled enough to manage without them, but alas, I am just a "brush" pilot. Plus I really don't give a shit how much they weigh. > Larry, I am not as fortunate as those of you who have your own grass strip with a hangar. Thus I am forced to use an airport. The first one was 39 miles away. Luckily the present one is only two miles away. When we bought the present property it included a long narrow strip that could be used as an 800 foot runway, but it is going to take some earth moving to get it flat and smooth enough to use with the FireFly. I mounted drum brakes activated by a single handle because I found that operating at an airport with out brakes was pure hell. The only way I could stop and avoid running into the plane ahead of me was to taxi off the asphalt into the grass or shut the engine down or jump out and hold it. When the queue moved forward, I would have to taxi in the grass, or climb in with out it running me down, strap in and move forward. If you want to fly, you have to do what you have to do. Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 22, 2012
From: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart(at)onlyinternet.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List Digest: tail wheel
...........................> >In the event of an engine failure, do you punch the clock >off? > John, Yes, but not until the wheels touch the ground. Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List Digest: tail wheel
Date: Aug 22, 2012
>In the event of an engine failure, do you punch the clock off? > John, Yes, but not until the wheels touch the ground. Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN Gee, what does that do to your fuel consumption calculations? ;-) john h mkIII Sargents, Colorado ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "b young" <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: BRS soft pack and gap seal conundrum
Date: Aug 22, 2012
Got one for you! Brother Don built an aluminum gap seal when he built my FlagFly. I bought a BRS soft pack, which fits in the gap and takes the shape of the wing from the leading edge back about 10". In order for the rocket, which is behind the gap seal, to pull the 'chute from the soft pack, which is beneath the gap seal, I cut some of the aluminum that covered it and replaced it with Dacron, held down with Velcro. If the circumstance arose that I needed to use it, the rocket would blast off and drag the 'chute through the Dacron, which would give way due to the Velcro. >>>>>>>>>> clean up the gooey mess and top it all off with polly fabric,,, the rocket will rip through the fabric and drag the chute behind it. then the paint can be continuous. no bungies, no water leaking through. boyd young ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "vic" <vicsv(at)myfairpoint.net>
Subject: Re: BRS soft pack and gap seal conundrum
Date: Aug 23, 2012
Dave They make velcro for high heat. One is called Dashboard. Google it Vic ----- Original Message ----- From: David Kulp To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 3:00 PM Subject: Kolb-List: BRS soft pack and gap seal conundrum OK Kolbers, Got one for you! Brother Don built an aluminum gap seal when he built my FlagFly. I bought a BRS soft pack, which fits in the gap and takes the shape of the wing from the leading edge back about 10". In order for the rocket, which is behind the gap seal, to pull the 'chute from the soft pack, which is beneath the gap seal, I cut some of the aluminum that covered it and replaced it with Dacron, held down with Velcro. If the circumstance arose that I needed to use it, the rocket would blast off and drag the 'chute through the Dacron, which would give way due to the Velcro. Unfortunately, the hot sun has melted the glue on the Velcro and it's pretty much a gooey mess any more, so I got a sheet of plexiglass to make another gap seal, and bent it to fit, intending to attach it with short bungies to the BRS frame. Although the rocket is behind the plexiglass, the 'chute is beneath it. What I'm figuring on doing is tracing the area of the plexiglass that needs to give if the 'chute is pulled and cut it almost completely off, but leaving a few tabs of uncut material, like two in front and one on each side at the very rear. If the 'chute is pulled the nylon strap that attaches the ballistic projectile from the rocket to the 'chute should break off the rear tabs and when the "trapdoor" opens the front two tabs will either hinge or break away, as well. Then I can drift slowly back to earth. If anyone has another idea, or has done it a different way, I'd really like to hear from you. Dave Kulp Bethlehem, PA FireFly 11DMK PS Another consideration is that the nylon strap may easily lift and bend the gap seal from the rear and to simply use small gauge bungies to hold it down. It would likely remain in place with nothing holding it since the wind actually pushes the gap seal tighter into place, and all the bungies would do is hold the back edge down so it doesn't vibrate or flap in the wind. Another way might be to cut slots from side to side at the front of the soft pack to make a hinge in case the whole gap seal doesn't detach from the leading edge of the wing... I'd like more minds to mull this over. Thanks. ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Kolb Firestar cockpit enclosure
From: "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com>
Date: Aug 23, 2012
I'm considering extending my Kolb Firestar's flying season by enclosing the cockpit area. I would like to see some original cockpit enclosure designs others have built. From cheap and quick to more elaborate designs. I've seen some very creative designs locally, but would like to see a wider sampling of other Firestars across the country. Please list type of materials used also. -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=381638#381638 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Kolb Firestar cockpit enclosure
Date: Aug 23, 2012
Travis Brown, at Kolb Aircraft, is a good source for info and materials for building a full enclosure. john h mkIII Sargents, Colorado I'm considering extending my Kolb Firestar's flying season by enclosing the cockpit area. I would like to see some original cockpit enclosure designs others have built. From cheap and quick to more elaborate designs. I've seen some very creative designs locally, but would like to see a wider sampling of other Firestars across the country. Please list type of materials used also. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 23, 2012
From: Charlie England <ceengland7(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: BRS soft pack and gap seal conundrum
Or just buy some without adhesive, & attach it to the frame with epoxy & the fabric with thread (sewing machine). Charlie On 08/23/2012 07:34 AM, vic wrote: > Dave > They make velcro for high heat. One is called Dashboard. Google it > Vic > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* David Kulp > *To:* kolb-list(at)matronics.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 22, 2012 3:00 PM > *Subject:* Kolb-List: BRS soft pack and gap seal conundrum > > > > > OK Kolbers, > > Got one for you! Brother Don built an aluminum gap seal when he > built > my FlagFly. I bought a BRS soft pack, which fits in the gap and > takes > the shape of the wing from the leading edge back about 10". In order > for the rocket, which is behind the gap seal, to pull the 'chute from > the soft pack, which is beneath the gap seal, I cut some of the > aluminum > that covered it and replaced it with Dacron, held down with > Velcro. If > the circumstance arose that I needed to use it, the rocket would > blast > off and drag the 'chute through the Dacron, which would give way > due to > the Velcro. > > Unfortunately, the hot sun has melted the glue on the Velcro and it's > pretty much a gooey mess any more, so I got a sheet of plexiglass to > make another gap seal, and bent it to fit, intending to attach it > with > short bungies to the BRS frame. Although the rocket is behind the > plexiglass, the 'chute is beneath it. What I'm figuring on doing is > tracing the area of the plexiglass that needs to give if the > 'chute is > pulled and cut it almost completely off, but leaving a few tabs of > uncut > material, like two in front and one on each side at the very > rear. If > the 'chute is pulled the nylon strap that attaches the ballistic > projectile from the rocket to the 'chute should break off the rear > tabs > and when the "trapdoor" opens the front two tabs will either hinge or > break away, as well. Then I can drift slowly back to earth. > > If anyone has another idea, or has done it a different way, I'd > really > like to hear from you. > > Dave Kulp > Bethlehem, PA > FireFly 11DMK > > PS Another consideration is that the nylon strap may easily lift and > bend the gap seal from the rear and to simply use small gauge > bungies to > hold it down. It would likely remain in place with nothing > holding it > since the wind actually pushes the gap seal tighter into place, > and all > the bungies would do is hold the back edge down so it doesn't > vibrate or > flap in the wind. Another way might be to cut slots from side to > side > at the front of the soft pack to make a hinge in case the whole > gap seal > doesn't detach from the leading edge of the wing... > > I'd like more minds to mull this over. p; Navigator > Photoshare, and > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronicp; > via the Web > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > _p; generous bsp; > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c================ > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Kolb Firestar cockpit enclosure
From: "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com>
Date: Aug 23, 2012
Here is one photo of a original top notch example. -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=381652#381652 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/kolb_cockpit_enclosure_946.bmp ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Thom Riddle <riddletr(at)gmail.com>
Date: Aug 24, 2012
Subject: Re: Kolb Firestar cockpit enclosure
The Slingshot has the same basic fuselage as the Firestar. The canopy on the slingshot hinges (piano hinge) on the left side so the whole thing tilts over completely out of the way for easy entry/exit. Attached is a photo of my Slingshot with the canopy open. ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Kolb Firestar cockpit enclosure
From: "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com>
Date: Aug 24, 2012
The Slingshot fuselage is basically the same as the Firestar. The canopy is hinged on the left side (piano hinge) and tilts over for easy entry/exit. This requires the canopy to have a tubular frame all around with a secure latch on the right side as well as a chain/lanyard to hole the canopy when open. Attached is a photo of my Slingshot with canopy open. -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY (9G0) Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Tennessee Prop 64x32 Truth is what stands the test of experience. - Albert Einstein Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=381678#381678 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/n64086_at_clarence_sep_12_2009_457.jpg ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Kolb Firestar cockpit enclosure
From: "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com>
Date: Aug 24, 2012
Tom, Very Nice ! is that a Kolb factory kit built or builder fabricated unit ? Thanks for the post, DT -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=381707#381707 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Ted Cowan" <tc1917(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: slingshot doors
Date: Aug 26, 2012
I believe they are factory doors for Slingshot. I have the building prints and it has these doors. I hope the photo of my toy gets published. As you see, it gives some of the best views and makes it easy to get in and out. You had better be good on the rudder if you are going to fly one of these buzz bombs. Ted Cowan, Slingshot, 912ul zoomzoom ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 28, 2012
From: David Kulp <undoctor(at)ptd.net>
Subject: gap seal w/chute
Hi Kolb drivers, It is pretty quiet on the list and a good time to thank all who responded in reference to my gap seal and BRS interaction. Every one of your replies added to my knowledge and decision on how to go about it. I've decided to re-do my aluminum gap seal and replace the vinyl and gooey velcro with dacron using sewed on and glued on velcro. Without testing I could never be sure the plexiglas would give when the rocket fired, and I want to be sure. The dacron will cover the portion of the aluminum gap seal I had to cut away and will be a trap door to permit the exit of the chute, should that ever be necessary. Again, thanks; it doesn't get any better than all the knowledge and experience contained within this forum!! Dave Kulp Bethlehem, PA 11DMK PS If anyone is interested in buying a completely restored '43 Stearman, give me a shout. It's white w/yellow wings and blue tailfeathers and has military numbers on the side of the fuselage. It's been virtually not flown since the restoration. The fellow who used to own the strip where I hangar my FlagFly has it for sale. He's 80 and can't pass his physical, so he's going to concentrate on having his '39 Piper Cub restored and fly LSA. ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Sad day
From: kinne russ <russk50(at)gmail.com>
Date: Aug 29, 2012
Brer Beauford Have been thinking about you a lot in recent days -- HOPE Isaac is letting you alone-- but I fear for your nice grassy airstrip. Hope watercress is not growing there now. Hope it dries out before thanksgiving. I do a lot of hoping! Hope it worx. Haven't seen many posts from you lately, and I miss them; they're a pleasant change from the semi-literate ramblings we so often see. But activity do seem to go on, thankfully. I'm no closer to Kolb-ing but there's a strip a couple miles from the log cabin I've bought in ME. And the former Brunswick Naval Sir Station is about 8 mi away. 8K' of asphalt! Could do a dozen touch-&-goes in one pass. For many years they flew the P3 Orions out of there on sub patrols, but no mo. Huge change to local economy. Say hello, or deliver a kick, to all those politicians; your choice. Take care, fair winds, Russ ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 30, 2012
Subject: a helpful tip for tools
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>
I imagine most of you, like me use a battery powered screw gun to do a lot of your repairs on your Kolbs. One of the problems of course is that the batteries soon will not take a charge. If you use one of the major brands then finding a battery is not a problem, just the cost of new ones is the only problem. I have a Makita and am on my second set of batteries. The last two that I bought cost $39.00 I was using it yesterday and the charge ran down to worthless, so I stuck it on the charger. I have two chargers, but the battery kept tripping the fault button. I had managed to charge it the last time by standing there and restarting it when it clicked off. A real pain and the nearest replacement was 130 miles away, so I resorted to a tip that I picked up off the internet. It is just using a wire feed to knock the shorted nicads back to life. The wire feed of course has amperage controlled by the wire speed. The higher the wire speed the higher the amperage. Voltage is adjusted by the other adjustment. The idea is to have three times the voltage,- 27 volts for a 9 volt battery, with no amperage. Set your wire speed to zero. I clamped a screw into my ground clamp, and held it on the minus side of the battery while tapping the wire sticking out of the gun to the positive side. You should tap or make contact 10 to 15 times. This will allow the battery to return to useful status in no time at all. After that treatment my battery was able to receive a charge and I could complete my work. The theory is that the nicads build up inside and short out. The increased voltage burns these contact points off and return the battery to + and - condition as they should be. I do recommend a face shield, I have never heard of one blowing up, but I would just as soon take every precaution. For what it is worth! Larry -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 30, 2012
From: Phil <phactor9(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: a helpful tip for tools
I have three Dewalt 12v cordless packs. I took each apart and zapped each c ell individually with an old UPC 12v gel cell - pos to pos and neg to neg. I barely touched about 20 times, but held the connection for half-a-second on three or four of those "touches". I just recharged two of the packs (the third is still in the charger) and t hey seem to have new powerful life - the drill now spins up fast and sweet. I could have sworn I heard a POP on some of the first touches of some of th e cells... rather like something inside the cell was being "vaporized". I w ould like to imagine that was an indication the crystalline threads that ca use NiCds to "wear out" were being fried. Nice tip, guys. Thx. Phil H. --- On Thu, 8/30/12, b young wrote: From: b young <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: a helpful tip for tools Date: Thursday, August 30, 2012, 4:35 PM =0A=0A =0A =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A =0AThe theory is that the nicads build up inside and short out. The increas ed =0Avoltage burns these contact points off and return the battery to + an d - =0Acondition as they should be.-I do recommend a face shield, I have never =0Aheard of one blowing up, but I would just as soon take every preca ution. =0A-=0A =0AFor what it is worth!=0ALarry=0A=0A >>>>>>>>>>>>>=0A-=0AI have seen the fallout after a NiCad =0Aexploded... - a 2 x 4 inch hole in the ceiling sheetrock where the rest of =0Athe bat tery pack landed.- and bits and pieces of the exploded cell =0Aeverywhere ,- bits of battery case imbedded in the wall,,,,-- =0Adon't think I w ould have enjoyed the fireworks in person.-- a friend =0Aleft his batte ry connected to a 15 min charger and forgot it,,,- an-1 =0A1/2 hours -to-2 hours is all it took for the battery pack to turn its =0Aself int o an-"auto reminder"- -- =0A-=0Aanother method that works is to t ake a very large =0Acapacitor,-- charge it up to 50 volts or there abou t, -dc, and =0Ajump + to + and - to ---- it does the same thing but you don't =0Aneed a wire feed welder.=0Awhat I have been told,,,, there ar e fine whiskers =0Athat grow from plate to plate and short out the cell.... - the high voltage/ =0Acurrent.- burns out the wicker, like burning out a fuse,,,,- but the =0Adown side,,,- there more-whiskers that are- almost all-the =0Away to making the full bridge,- these are not burnt o ut.-- =0Aso-you will have to repeat -it over and over at increasing frequency =0Atill you give out.--- or the cell dries up on the insid e and wont =0Atake a charge anyway.=0A-=0Aboyd young=0A=0A ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 30, 2012
From: Charlie England <ceengland7(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: a helpful tip for tools
If you're handy with a soldering iron & you can get the pack open, you can buy inexpensive nickel-metal-hydride (Ni-MH) cells & replace the nicads in the pack. Same current capacity will be a lot smaller, or you can go up a bit in capacity & still fit them in the pack. Just use the same number of cells that were in the original pack. On 08/30/2012 05:24 PM, Phil wrote: > I have three Dewalt 12v cordless packs. I took each apart and zapped > each cell individually with an old UPC 12v gel cell - pos to pos and > neg to neg. I barely touched about 20 times, but held the connection > for half-a-second on three or four of those "touches". > > I just recharged two of the packs (the third is still in the charger) > and they seem to have new powerful life - the drill now spins up fast > and sweet. > > I could have sworn I heard a POP on some of the first touches of some > of the cells... rather like something inside the cell was being > "vaporized". I would like to imagine that was an indication the > crystalline threads that cause NiCds to "wear out" were being fried. > > Nice tip, guys. Thx. > > Phil H. > > --- On *Thu, 8/30/12, b young //* wrote: > > > From: b young <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: a helpful tip for tools > To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com > Date: Thursday, August 30, 2012, 4:35 PM > > > The theory is that the nicads build up inside and short out. The > increased voltage burns these contact points off and return the > battery to + and - condition as they should be. I do recommend a > face shield, I have never heard of one blowing up, but I would > just as soon take every precaution. > > For what it is worth! > Larry > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > I have seen the fallout after a NiCad exploded... a 2 x 4 inch > hole in the ceiling sheetrock where the rest of the battery pack > landed. and bits and pieces of the exploded cell everywhere, > bits of battery case imbedded in the wall,,,, don't think I > would have enjoyed the fireworks in person. a friend left his > battery connected to a 15 min charger and forgot it,,, an 1 1/2 > hours to 2 hours is all it took for the battery pack to turn its > self into an "auto reminder" > another method that works is to take a very large capacitor, > charge it up to 50 volts or there about, dc, and jump + to + and > - to - it does the same thing but you don't need a wire feed > welder. > what I have been told,,,, there are fine whiskers that grow from > plate to plate and short out the cell.... the high voltage/ > current. burns out the wicker, like burning out a fuse,,,, but > the down side,,, there more whiskers that are almost all the way > to making the full bridge, these are not burnt out. so you will > have to repeat it over and over at increasing frequency till you > give out. or the cell dries up on the inside and wont take a > charge anyway. > boyd young > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Mark <chevybowtieracing(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Aluminum gear with 5/8 axles
Date: Aug 30, 2012
I am new to the Kolb business we bought a mkIIIc a few mouths ago, I am a little disappointed with the landing gear we have the aluminum legs with 5/8 axles the tires are 600*6 6 ply. Noticed the pilot tire toed out a little need to keep eye on this right! First flight no problem landed find, second flight the axle bent more so I order a new. In the mean time reading in the list found that it is ok to straight them one time so I did look better than when we bought it time to test it out and keep in mind it is weaker now so it will bend easier. After a few fly by's time to land one notch of flaps air speed 50 1/4 of power I got a little fast about three feet off kill the power level off air speed about 45 touch down pow! Left tire flies off right rudder right brake left leg is off the ground that's good slow down and keep the three points down almost stop left starting to dig in and pull to the left stuck in the soft dirt on the side of the runway nose over just a little kill engines and fuel. That could have been really bad I'm not hurt insect the plane nothing but one broken axle oh the propeller is partly missing the tire hit it and my wife got it all on tape. Lesson will not be straightening an more axles. Sorry for going on and on. We have installed a new factory axle in hopes this will never happen again. In reading on this list sounds like axles bending is quite normal i don't like that idea some time you just don't have glass landing it just the facts none of the landings were pancakes. How much better is the 4130 leg and are the axles replaced with larger diameter are are they the same 5/8"? > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Mark <chevybowtieracing(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Aluminum gear with 5/8 axles
Date: Aug 30, 2012
I am new to the Kolb business we bought a mkIIIc a few mouths ago, I am a little disappointed with the landing gear we have the aluminum legs with 5/8 axles the tires are 600*6 6 ply. Noticed the pilot tire toed out a little need to keep eye on this right! First flight no problem landed find, second flight the axle bent more so I order a new. In the mean time reading in the list found that it is ok to straight them one time so I did look better than when we bought it time to test it out and keep in mind it is weaker now so it will bend easier. After a few fly by's time to land one notch of flaps air speed 50 1/4 of power I got a little fast about three feet off kill the power level off air speed about 45 touch down pow! Left tire flies off right rudder right brake left leg is off the ground that's good slow down and keep the three points down almost stop left starting to dig in and pull to the left stuck in the soft dirt on the side of the runway nose over just a little kill engines and fuel. That could have been really bad I'm not hurt insect the plane nothing but one broken axle oh the propeller is partly missing the tire hit it and my wife got it all on tape. Lesson will not be straightening an more axles. Sorry for going on and on. We have installed a new factory axle in hopes this will never happen again. In reading on this list sounds like axles bending is quite normal i don't like that idea some time you just don't have glass landing it just the facts none of the landings were pancakes. How much better is the 4130 leg and are the axles replaced with larger diameter are are they the same 5/8"? > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: kolb firefly cage wanted
From: "awcbs" <awcbsone(at)windstream.net>
Date: Aug 31, 2012
Looking for a firefly cage. thanks AJ -------- AJ Waldor MK3C 503 Phantom 503 Rans S-9 Chaos 503 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=382191#382191 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Aluminum gear with 5/8 axles
From: "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com>
Date: Sep 01, 2012
chevybowtieracing ...it happens to best of us . Hang in there! -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=382272#382272 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/kolb_landing_gear_186.jpg ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 05, 2012
From: Phil <phactor9(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: DC PJ-068 PJ-055 Headset to IC-A5 adaptor
Here is the article I went by to create my own patch cable between my David Clark H10-30 dual plugs headset (PJ-068 mic plug and PH-055 earphone plug) . I did not wire in a PTT but I might in the future. A PTT on the stick is enticing. - http://www.bowersflybaby.com/tech/velcro.html - Phil H. Kolb Firefly 11-4-76 --- On Thu, 8/23/12, Phil wrote: From: Phil phactor9(at)yahoo.com Here is my home-brew David Clark H10-30 to Icom IC-A5 adaptor. The top sche matic is the DC headset. The bottom is the pin-outs of the 4-conductor 3.5m m plug that goes in the top of the radio. Try to find a 3.5mm plug with shi elded wiring. http://phactor.com/ICA5_to_DC-H10-30.jpg - You need to buy female receptacles for the PJ-055 and PJ-068 males coming f rom the headset. Break apart the wires from the 3.5mm plug and solder them accordingly. Tested just fine. If you want the PTT, just order another push button switch and wire it in, too. - Across the top, I've drawn the color coding for the female receptacles. Stu dy it long enough and it's all there. .206 is the mic plug and .250 is the earphones. --- On Tue, 8/21/12, a57 wrote: I bought an Icom IC a5 off eBay. I have a helmet that has a Rad headset 3 c ontact .250 single plug. I bought a PTT switch off eBay. The icom a5 has a 3.5mm 4 contact single plug. Question: how do I get them all together witho ut spending $120.00 For a patch cable? Thanks, Robert . ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Aileron trim tab
From: "tombaisley" <tombaisley(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Sep 07, 2012
How many people have a trim tab on their aileron? Should it be there at all? or on the rudder? Just curious as an A&P was quizzing me about my trim tab during my annual condition inspection. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=382581#382581 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 07, 2012
Subject: Re: Aileron trim tab
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>
I do on both! Larry On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 6:22 AM, tombaisley wrote: > > How many people have a trim tab on their aileron? Should it be there at > all? or on the rudder? Just curious as an A&P was quizzing me about my trim > tab during my annual condition inspection. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=382581#382581 > > -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: New owner - new home
From: "cristalclear13" <cristalclearwaters(at)gmail.com>
Date: Sep 07, 2012
My "Merry Dawn" Kolb Mark II has a new home in Butler, Georgia. She is in good hands as there is a good group of builders and flyers there who will probably spruce her up a little. As you can see in this picture the new owner (in the blue shirt) is very happy with his purchase. Now I am just a lurker, but I hope, maybe in another 15 years or perhaps sooner, to return as a Kolb Owner once again. Thanks to everyone who has helped me in this forum. I've made some good friends here. If you ever fly into Waycross, Georgia, give me a ring! Thanks Merry Dawn for a great 5 years and some wonderful, awesome flights and some good learning experiences! I will miss you girl! [Crying or Very sad] -------- Cristal Waters Kolb Mark II Twinstar Rotax 503 DCSI Sept 2007 Private Pilot Aug 2008 ELSA Repairman for N193Y April 2008 Rotax 2 stroke maintenance April 2009 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=382592#382592 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/newkolbowner_212.jpg ________________________________________________________________________________
From: David Kulp <undoctor(at)ptd.net>
Subject: Re: Aileron trim tab
Date: Sep 07, 2012
I have tabs on all 3 axis. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 7, 2012, at 9:55 AM, Larry Cottrell wrote: > I do on both! > Larry > > On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 6:22 AM, tombaisley wrote: > > How many people have a trim tab on their aileron? Should it be there at al l? or on the rudder? Just curious as an A&P was quizzing me about my trim ta b during my annual condition inspection. > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=382581#382581 > > > > > > > > ========== > arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List > ========== > http://forums.matronics.com > ========== > le, List Admin. > ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > > > > > > -- > If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email addre ss before sending. > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 07, 2012
From: TheWanderingWench <thewanderingwench(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: New owner - new home
Cristal -=0A=0ASelling Merry Dawn must be heartbreaking. I hope that you ar e able to be a Kolb owner again MUCH sooner than 15 years!=0A=0AAnd don't l urk on this forum - share with us some of the "wonderful, awesome flights a nd good learning experiences" you've had.-=0ADoesn't matter if they're in the past - they'll be new to us when you tell us about them.=0A=0A=0AArty Trost=0ASandy, Oregon=0A=0A-=0Awww.LessonsFromTheEdge.com/oshkosh/=0A=0A =0A"Life's a daring adventure or nothing"=0AHelen Keller=0A=0A=0A"I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death."=0A=0A=0A__________ ______________________=0A From: cristalclear13 <cristalclearwaters(at)gmail.co m>=0ATo: kolb-list(at)matronics.com =0ASent: Friday, September 7, 2012 7:11 AM =0ASubject: Kolb-List: New owner - new home=0A =0A--> Kolb-List message pos ted by: "cristalclear13" =0A=0AMy "Merry Dawn " Kolb Mark II has a new home in Butler, Georgia.- She is in good hands a s there is a good group of builders and flyers there who will probably spru ce her up a little.- As you can see in this picture the new owner (in the blue shirt) is very happy with his purchase.=0A=0ANow I am just a lurker, but I hope, maybe in another 15 years or perhaps sooner, to return as a Kol b Owner once again.- =0A=0AThanks to everyone who has helped me in this f orum.- I've made some good friends here.- If you ever fly into Waycross , Georgia, give me a ring!=0A=0AThanks Merry Dawn for a great 5 years and s ome wonderful, awesome flights and some good learning experiences!- I wil l miss you girl!- [Crying or Very sad]=0A=0A--------=0ACristal Waters=0AK olb Mark II Twinstar Rotax 503 DCSI- Sept 2007=0APrivate Pilot Aug 2008 =0AELSA Repairman for N193Y April 2008=0ARotax 2 stroke maintenance April 2 009=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics .com/viewtopic.php?p=382592#382592=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AAttachments: =0A=0Ahttp: ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "pcking" <pc.king(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: New owner - new home
Date: Sep 07, 2012
Do all Kolbs use the same airfoil? What's the airfoil on the MkIII? ----- Original Message ----- From: TheWanderingWench To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 11:14 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: New owner - new home Cristal - Selling Merry Dawn must be heartbreaking. I hope that you are able to be a Kolb owner again MUCH sooner than 15 years! And don't lurk on this forum - share with us some of the "wonderful, awesome flights and good learning experiences" you've had. Doesn't matter if they're in the past - they'll be new to us when you tell us about them. Arty Trost Sandy, Oregon www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com/oshkosh/ "Life's a daring adventure or nothing" Helen Keller "I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death." ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: cristalclear13 <cristalclearwaters(at)gmail.com> To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Friday, September 7, 2012 7:11 AM Subject: Kolb-List: New owner - new home My "Merry Dawn" Kolb Mark II has a new home in Butler, Georgia. She is in good hands as there is a good group of builders and flyers there who will probably spruce her up a little. As you can see in this picture the new owner (in the blue shirt) is very happy with his purchase. Now I am just a lurker, but I hope, maybe in another 15 years or perhaps sooner, to return as a Kolb Owner once again. Thanks to everyone who has helped me in this forum. I've made some good friends here. If you ever fly into Waycross, Georgia, give me a ring! Thanks Merry Dawn for a great 5 years and some wonderful, awesome flights and some good learning experiences! I will miss you girl! [Crying or Very sad] -------- Cristal Waters Kolb Mark II Twinstar Rotax 503 DCSI Sept 2007 Private Pilot Aug 2008 ELSA Repairman for N193Y April 2008 Rotax 2 stroke maintenance April 2009 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=382592#382592 Attachments: http://forums.matrtronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List" - List Contribution Web Site - ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: New owner - new home
From: "cristalclear13" <cristalclearwaters(at)gmail.com>
Date: Sep 07, 2012
Thank you Arty. It was a tough decision. I will keep in touch! I heard from them today. They really enjoyed their flight from Waycross to Thomaston, Georgia yesterday. The buyer is already planning several upgrades. That makes me happy. Merry Dawn was in need of some nice little "tweaks" here and there, but I didn't have the time or the resources to do it. I called her Merry Dawn because I flew her mostly at dawn and it made me very happy (merry). :) Arty Trost wrote: > Cristal - > > > Selling Merry Dawn must be heartbreaking. I hope that you are able to be a Kolb owner again MUCH sooner than 15 years! > > > And don't lurk on this forum - share with us some of the "wonderful, awesome flights and good learning experiences" you've had. > Doesn't matter if they're in the past - they'll be new to us when you tell us about them. > > > > Arty Trost > Sandy, Oregon > > www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com/oshkosh/ > > > "Life's a daring adventure or nothing" > Helen Keller > > > "I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death." -------- Cristal Waters Kolb Mark II Twinstar Rotax 503 DCSI Sept 2007 - sold Sept 2012 Private Pilot Aug 2008 ELSA Repairman for N193Y April 2008 Rotax 2 stroke maintenance April 2009 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=382609#382609 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: New owner - new home
Date: Sep 07, 2012
My "Merry Dawn" Kolb Mark II has a new Cristal Waters Cristal W/Kolber: That is sad news indeed. Hopefully you will not have to wait 15 years for your next Kolb. I know how much you enjoyed your airplane. Because of Homer Kolb and his airplanes, I have been able to meet and make many new friends, Cristal included. Was just on the phone with Larry Cottrell as I was pulling my double rig between Wendover, UT, and Wells, NV. Told him I wished I had my MKIII now instead of the 5th wheel. If I did, I'd just fly right over those mountains to the Rock House. Straight line distance from here at Wells, is about 190 sm. By road it is about 115 sm further. Cooler weather and better flying conditions are right around the corner. Don't forget the Kolb Homecoming in November. I plan to fly my MKIII up to London, KY. Hope all of you Kolbers will also be able to attend. Would be great to have some of the old members of the Kolb List that I haven't had a chance to meet and who have never made a Kolb Homecoming, make this one. john h mkIII Wells, NV ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: New owner - new home
Date: Sep 07, 2012
On Behalf Of pcking Do all Kolbs use the same airfoil? What's the airfoil on the MkIII? pcking/Kolbers: Yes, all the airfoils are the same. MKIII airfoil is the same as all the other models, Homer Kolb's. ;-) john h mkIII Wells, NV ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Nick Cassara" <nickc(at)mtaonline.net>
Subject: 8.5 X 6 tires on a Kolbra....
Date: Sep 07, 2012
Hello Kolbers, Since things are slow, here is a question for whom ever has a thought. I have been planning to put a well smoothed off pair 8.5 X 6 tire on my Kolbra, when it is finished. A friend asked me how tough the gear is... I know John H has 8.00 x 6 on his Mark III and his gear in different than production kits. What do you think? Would this be too much stress on the gear? Thanks, Nick Cassara Palmer, AK N607AK ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 08, 2012
Subject: Re: Aileron trim tab
From: David Peters <dpeters160(at)gmail.com>
If the plane flies straight and level in cruise flight you din't need it. On Friday, September 7, 2012, David Kulp wrote: > I have tabs on all 3 axis. > > Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 7, 2012, at 9:55 AM, Larry Cottrell wrote: > > I do on both! > Larry > > On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 6:22 AM, tombaisley wrote: >> >> >> How many people have a trim tab on their aileron? Should it be there at all? or on the rudder? Just curious as an A&P was quizzing me about my trim tab during my annual condition inspection. >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=382581#382581 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ========== >> arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List >> ========== >> http://forums.matronics.com >> ========== >> le, List Admin. >> ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> ========== >> >> >> > > > -- > If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending. > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: STOL Speed VG's
From: "R. Hankins" <rphanks(at)grantspass.com>
Date: Sep 08, 2012
I finally got the STOL Speed VG's installed on my Firestar KXP. They are a lot less obtrusive than the homemade ones and look a lot better. I went out and put the firestar through it's paces after the install and am very happy with the results. I installed 105 VG's on the wings and 20 on the underside of the horizontal stabilizer trailing edge (10 per side). Larry Cottrell added VG's to his elevator and recommended I try it. The results were positive. I have more elevator authority (didn't feel lacking before, but it is awesome now),a slighly slower stall speed compared to the home made VG's and a more gentle stall. I flew lots of power off stalls, power on mushes (it won't stall at full power) and tight turns in both directions 'til I was dizzy. Suffice it to say that I have gone to the dark side. I was OK with VG's before, but now I'm a true believer. The STOL-speed VG's look better than my home made versions, and the results are a bit better as well. Power off stall speed went down slightly from 34 to 32mph indicated, but control authority in the elevator and ailerons was noticeably better. Part of the improvement, I think, is due to having VG's installed all the way out to the wing tips and using closer spacing out at the tips. I can hold the firestar in a stall now without one wing wanting to drop. This is how it performed before any VG's were installed. The homemade VG's made this a bit worse, kind of like balancing on a ball. With the Stolspeed VG's I have my original Firestar handling back, but with the lower stall speed of VG's. The differences aren't huge, but they are definitely noticeable and positive. If you are interested, visit Stolspeed.com for more information. -------- Roger in Oregon 1992 KXP 503 - N1782C Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=382697#382697 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 08, 2012
From: David Kulp <undoctor(at)ptd.net>
Subject: FlagFly heel brake improvement
G'day Kolb drivers, I did a mod to my Matco heel brakes on my FlagFly that turned out to be one of those YES!!! moments. Reaching for my brakes required a very unnatural thrusting my heels forward all the while trying to steer with the rudder pedal. The way my knees are bent while sitting in the FF made it a difficult thing to do. So I went about trying to improve the situation. First I cut two 3/4" lengths from a large dowel, shaped the one side concave to match the brake pedals, and epoxied them to the pedals. Felt a lot better in use, but in a short time one of them came off, so I removed the other one, too. Flew that way for a while, but still wanted to do a more permanent fix, so I hunted through my "stuff" and found that the diameter of the brake pedals is just slightly larger than the OD of 1 1/2" PVC. I trucked over to Home Depot and browsed through related items to try to find something which would fit over the pedals and not have to be glued on. And there they were; rubber end caps with hose clamps to cap off an inch and a half PVC pipe. Bought two and brought them home. Measured the inside depth and cut two pieces of inch and a half PVC pipe about 3/16" shorter, using my radial arm saw in order to get a perfectly square cut. I pushed the pieces of PVC into the end caps, moved the clamp flush to the edge, and pushed them onto the brake pedals. Tightening the clamps then compresses the edge of the rubber cap nicely around the edge of the pedal while the downward force is transmitted from your heel to the pedal via the PVC pipe. A very solid function. I checked for any conflicts from the screw mechanism on the clamps and finding none, climbed in and worked the brakes and rudders. Not only does it allow my foot to position perfectly, the rubber creates a slip-proof surface, like the brake pedal in your car. So, if anyone else has the same annoying foot position with your heel brakes, maybe you can give this a try. About five bucks and fifteen minutes is all it takes. Dave Kulp Bethlehem, PA FireFly 11DMK BTW, Don G. put VGs on the underside of the horiz stab on my FlagFly, and although I don't know how it would handle without, it flies so great with them I wouldn't change a thing!! ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: FlagFly heel brake improvement
From: "209GS" <guebbing(at)aol.com>
Date: Sep 08, 2012
Can you post pics? -------- Gerry Uebbing Firestar II 503 b-box (not flying yet) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=382709#382709 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 09, 2012
From: David Kulp <undoctor(at)ptd.net>
Subject: Re: FlagFly heel brake improvement
Hello Gerry, What I could show you in a picture installed could be seen better by going to homedepot.com and putting either of these two identifiers in the search box: Model # PQC-101 Store SKU # 688053 Since the cap is made to slide over PVC pipe, picture a shorter piece of pipe inside and the remaining depth slid over the brake pedals, then tightened in place with the clamp. You'll see they have the clamp positioned about 3/16" from the edge but you'd want to slide the clamp to be flush with the edge since that's what is going to compress around the perimeter of the pedal to hold it in place. The face of the cap is the surface your heel pushes on when braking, and inside is a piece of PVC pipe resting solidly on the pedal. Hope this helps. Dave Kulp On 9/8/2012 10:08 PM, 209GS wrote: > > Can you post pics? > > -------- > Gerry Uebbing > Firestar II 503 b-box > (not flying yet) > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=382709#382709 > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: STOL Speed VG's
From: "R. Hankins" <rphanks(at)grantspass.com>
Date: Sep 08, 2012
Well I guess I could have been more specific in my first post. I said that Larry had put VG's on his elevators. What I meant is that he put them on the underside trailing edge of his horizontal stabilizer, which is the correct location if one is trying to increase elevator authority in the nose up direction. As I said, he recommended them and now that I have tried them, I can see why he did. -------- Roger in Oregon 1992 KXP 503 - N1782C Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=382717#382717 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: 8.5 X 6 tires on a Kolbra
Date: Sep 10, 2012
From: "Kirby, Dennis Civ USAF AFMC AFNWC/ENS" <Dennis.Kirby(at)kirtland.af.mil>
"Nick Cassara" asked: << I have been planning to put a well smoothed off pair 8.5 X 6 tire on my Kolbra, when it is finished. A friend asked me how tough the gear is ... Would this be too much stress on the gear? Thanks, Nick Cassara, Palmer, AK >> Nick - I had 8.00x6 "tundra" tires on my Mark-3 for about a year, but eventually swapped them back out for the original 6.00x6 tires that were on it because the 8.00s were so horribly out of balance. Talking about the wavy-tread 8.00 tires, that Kolb Factory usually equips with their Kolbras. Cheap, made in China tires. During the takeoff roll, when my plane got to 30 mph, the instrument panel would vibrate so badly I could not even read the instruments. Unfortunately, the Matco rims they were on could not be balanced. Not designed to take rim weights. Yet I have friends who have the same tires, and they roll perfectly smoothly. Luck of the draw, I guess. So my advice would be: Try to find out if your 8.5 tires are well-balanced or not. Sounds to me like the previous owner must've liked them OK, for them to be so "well-smoothed!" AS far as stress on the gear - because these balloon tires are usually run at lower PSI, you get extra cushioning on landing and striking objects on the runway. So I think your landing gear will be OK. Dennis Kirby Mark-3, 912ul, in Sandia Park, NM ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: what size IVO prop for a 582
From: "tombaisley" <tombaisley(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Sep 10, 2012
What size IVO prop should I be looking for to use on my MKIII w/582 grey head? two or three blades? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=382832#382832 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: what size IVO prop for a 582
From: Ellery Batchelder Jr <elleryweld(at)aol.com>
Date: Sep 10, 2012
if it wer me I would measure from the center of the prop shaft and leave yo ur self at least one inch clearance on the boom tube and that measurement w ould be half your total length and a two blade preforms better than the smo other running three blade prop my experiance others my vary though Ellery Batchelder Jr. -----Original Message----- From: tombaisley <tombaisley(at)yahoo.com> Sent: Mon, Sep 10, 2012 6:05 pm Subject: Kolb-List: what size IVO prop for a 582 What size IVO prop should I be looking for to use on my MKIII w/582 grey he ad? two or three blades? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=382832#382832 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 10, 2012
From: GARY JINDRA <gajindra(at)sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: what size IVO prop for a 582
I-just purchased a three blade 66 inch from IVO since I was replacing my GSC =0Awood prop.IVO-suggested a 64 inch with a 4 inch spacer requirerd d ue to =0Aflexing.Because the root tube angle drops the prop gets closer to the boom tube =0Awith the spacer.I ended up cutting 3/4 inch off each blade .I should have =0Alistened to IVO to start with.I fly a Mark 3 with a 582.I VO will give you their =0Asuggestion and explain the need for the spacer an d they are familiar with our =0Aplanes.=0A-=0AGary Jindra=0Amak 3c=0A95 h ours=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: tombaisley <tom baisley(at)yahoo.com>=0ATo: kolb-list(at)matronics.com=0ASent: Mon, September 10, 2012 6:03:17 PM=0ASubject: Kolb-List: what size IVO prop for a 582=0A=0A-- t size IVO prop should I be looking for to use on my MKIII w/582 grey head? =0Atwo or three blades?=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahtt p://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=382832#382832=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A ============= ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: 8.5 X 6 tires on a Kolbra
From: "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com>
Date: Sep 11, 2012
When I bought my Slingshot it had the 8.00x6 tires on Matco wheels and they were pretty well balanced w/o any weights on the wheels. No noticeable vibration before getting airborne, so apparently mine were some of the good ones. I had no issues with those tires except they were meant for grass and I am based at a paved airport. I downsized to 15x6-6 tires which required a lot of tape-a-weights to get them vibration free. So luck of the draw can be certainly a factor. FWIW, the self-adhesive on the weights was not sufficient for the job so I used rtv to stick the weights in place and then taped over them with electrical tape. Sort of ugly but since I have wheel pants it does not show. I used a go-kart type wheel balancer which worked quite well. In the future, I would follow John Hauck's advise and pay extra for real aircraft tires which generally need no balancing on the wheel. -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY (9G0) Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Diamond Katana DA20-A1 Rotax 912 F3 Don't worry about old age... it doesn't last very long. - Anonymous Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=382858#382858 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 11, 2012
Subject: Re: what size IVO prop for a 582
From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com>
Tom, Up front, I don't like IVO Props. In my opinion they are poorly made and the tolerance they allow when welding the hook on the blade adjustment rod has been off by at least one degree on every IVO I've ever measured. Do yourself a favor. Borrow a prop protractor, measure a few IVO's for pitch variations between blades and make your own informed decision. If you have a friend with a two blade IVO, ask them to loosen and retorque the prop while you watch the prop cover plate BEND. The last one I installed for a customer had to have the spacers machined to prevent this. Last, choose your prop by what gearbox you will run on your 582. If you have a "B" box the prop inertia limit will help direct your selection. MHO. Rick Girard On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 5:03 PM, tombaisley wrote: > > What size IVO prop should I be looking for to use on my MKIII w/582 grey > head? > two or three blades? > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=382832#382832 > > -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: STOL Speed VG's
Date: Sep 11, 2012
From: "Kirby, Dennis Civ USAF AFMC AFNWC/ENS" <Dennis.Kirby(at)kirtland.af.mil>
kinne russ asked: << Who suggested putting them in the trailing edge of the hor. stab? >> Russ - Placing VG's on the underside of the H.stabilizer - just ahead of the elevator hinge line - has been an oft-suggested bit of advice for a long time. The idea is, since your plane now stalls at a lower speed, you'll likely be at a somewhat higher angle of attack, just before stall. Many folks have observed that, at this high AoA, they begin to lose up-elevator effectiveness at the airplane approaches stall speed. Airflow flowing aft from the stab is separating at the hinge line because of the steep deflection of your elevator. Placing several VGs just ahead of the elevator keeps the airflow "connected" as it flows past the elevator hinge line, thus maintaining elevator authority all the way down to below stall speed. I installed VGs on my Mark-3 last fall, including on the stab. Although I was not losing elevator authority prior to installing them, I did notice that, after installing VGs there, my pitch authority just before touchdown was now a bit more sensitive. Not a bad thing - forces me to be more precise in my elevator movements to get that smooth touchdown! Dennis Kirby Mark-3, 912 New Mexico ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "b young" <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: 8.5 X 6 tires on a Kolbra
Date: Sep 11, 2012
Talking about the wavy-tread 8.00 tires, that Kolb Factory usually equips with their Kolbras. Cheap, made in China tires. During the takeoff roll, when my plane got to 30 mph, the instrument panel would vibrate so badly I could not even read the instruments. Unfortunately, the Matco rims they were on could not be balanced. Not designed to take rim weights. Dennis Kirby >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dennis I went to a local tire shop and asked if they had the stick on weights,,, they fit on the inside of the rim near where the valve stem comes out. worked ok for me. boyd young mkiii utah ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: 8.5 X 6 tires on a Kolbra
From: "Carolina Flyer" <joe.a.lawson(at)gmail.com>
Date: Sep 11, 2012
Now and again a topic on here comes up that I know a little about. The Tires that alot of people refer to as Tundra Tires are no where near to being anything like the original Alaskan Tundra Tires. The only characteristic the tires have that are similar to the real thing is being big, and actually they are not really all that big either. I have been selling a Tundra Tire set-up for a few years now, and they have many of the characteristic of the real ones. 1) Big 21"x 12" x 8" 2) light weight 3) soft and pliable. 4) smooth so they can slide and be more forgiving.... They are just like the real Tundra Tires, but just cost a friction of the cost of the original Bush Tires. If anyone needs any just send me a message. I can fix you up with the whole set-up. Tires, Wheels, and Brakes, or any individual item. The Wheels are Custom Made and Heat Treated, 8" Diameter and your choice of width. I use a Wheel that has a 9" width. I have even shipped out of the County,and I have them being used on Kolbs, Challenger's, KitFox., Avids, Rans, Ridge Runners, Phantoms even on some Trikes....l. Rotax Rick down in Naples Florida was my 1st Customer, and he Loved his -------- Kolb Firestar II 503 C-Box / RK400 Soon to have a Rotax 670 DCDI with a C-Box and RK 400 Clutch Challenger II 503 Tall Drive Location : Buffalo South Carolina Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=382891#382891 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/tires1_large_108.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc00448_large_209.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc00454_large_133.jpg ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: 8.5 X 6 tires on a Kolbra
From: "Carolina Flyer" <joe.a.lawson(at)gmail.com>
Date: Sep 11, 2012
In this Picture you can see the wheels with two different off-sets -------- Kolb Firestar II 503 C-Box / RK400 Soon to have a Rotax 670 DCDI with a C-Box and RK 400 Clutch Challenger II 503 Tall Drive Location : Buffalo South Carolina Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=382894#382894 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/picture_075_large_186.jpg ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 11, 2012
Subject: Re: 8.5 X 6 tires on a Kolbra
From: David Peters <dpeters160(at)gmail.com>
Do you have a web-site? Thank you. On Sep 11, 2012 12:28 PM, "Carolina Flyer" wrote: > > Now and again a topic on here comes up that I know a little about. The > Tires that alot of people refer to as Tundra Tires are no where near to > being anything like the original Alaskan Tundra Tires. The only > characteristic the tires have that are similar to the real thing is being > big, and actually they are not really all that big either. I have been > selling a Tundra Tire set-up for a few years now, and they have many of the > characteristic of the real ones. 1) Big 21"x 12" x 8" 2) light weight 3) > soft and pliable. 4) smooth so they can slide and be more forgiving.... > They are just like the real Tundra Tires, but just cost a friction of the > cost of the original Bush Tires. If anyone needs any just send me a > message. I can fix you up with the whole set-up. Tires, Wheels, and Brakes, > or any individual item. The Wheels are Custom Made and Heat Treated, 8" > Diameter and your choice of width. I use a Wheel that has a 9" width. I > have even shipped out of the County,and I have them! > being used on Kolbs, Challenger's, KitFox., Avids, Rans, Ridge Runners, > Phantoms even on some Trikes....l. Rotax Rick down in Naples Florida was my > 1st Customer, and he Loved his > > -------- > Kolb Firestar II > 503 C-Box / RK400 > Soon to have a > Rotax 670 DCDI > with a C-Box and > RK 400 Clutch > > Challenger II > 503 Tall Drive > > Location : Buffalo South Carolina > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=382891#382891 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/tires1_large_108.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc00448_large_209.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc00454_large_133.jpg > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 11, 2012
Subject: Re: 8.5 X 6 tires on a Kolbra
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>
Why don't you give us some prices of the set up? Larry On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Carolina Flyer wrote: > > Now and again a topic on here comes up that I know a little about. The > Tires that alot of people refer to as Tundra Tires are no where near to > being anything like the original Alaskan Tundra Tires. The only > characteristic the tires have that are similar to the real thing is being > big, and actually they are not really all that big either. I have been > selling a Tundra Tire set-up for a few years now, and they have many of the > characteristic of the real ones. 1) Big 21"x 12" x 8" 2) light weight 3) > soft and pliable. 4) smooth so they can slide and be more forgiving.... > They are just like the real Tundra Tires, but just cost a friction of the > cost of the original Bush Tires. If anyone needs any just send me a > message. I can fix you up with the whole set-up. Tires, Wheels, and Brakes, > or any individual item. The Wheels are Custom Made and Heat Treated, 8" > Diameter and your choice of width. I use a Wheel that has a 9" width. I > have even shipped out of the County,and I have them! > being used on Kolbs, Challenger's, KitFox., Avids, Rans, Ridge Runners, > Phantoms even on some Trikes....l. Rotax Rick down in Naples Florida was my > 1st Customer, and he Loved his > > -------- > Kolb Firestar II > 503 C-Box / RK400 > Soon to have a > Rotax 670 DCDI > with a C-Box and > RK 400 Clutch > > Challenger II > 503 Tall Drive > > Location : Buffalo South Carolina > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=382891#382891 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/tires1_large_108.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc00448_large_209.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc00454_large_133.jpg > > -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 11, 2012
Subject: Re: 8.5 X 6 tires on a Kolbra
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>
I would be interested in the weight of all the necessary ingredients as well. Larry On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Carolina Flyer wrote: > > In this Picture you can see the wheels with two different off-sets > > -------- > Kolb Firestar II > 503 C-Box / RK400 > Soon to have a > Rotax 670 DCDI > with a C-Box and > RK 400 Clutch > > Challenger II > 503 Tall Drive > > Location : Buffalo South Carolina > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=382894#382894 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/picture_075_large_186.jpg > > -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: 8.5 X 6 tires on a Kolbra
From: "Carolina Flyer" <joe.a.lawson(at)gmail.com>
Date: Sep 11, 2012
Here is a Picture of 1 Wheel with a Tire and the Black Max Wheel Hub on a weight scale at our local Post Office........... The price of the complete set-up is $779.00 plus Shipping Cost... I have always shipped the tires already mounted on the rims, that way I know the buyer will not have any problems. The complete set-up can be fitted on in less than an hour. -------- Kolb Firestar II 503 C-Box / RK400 Soon to have a Rotax 670 DCDI with a C-Box and RK 400 Clutch Challenger II 503 Tall Drive Location : Buffalo South Carolina Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=382901#382901 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/tirewheel_and_wheel_hub_on_scale_large_180.jpg ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "vic" <vicsv(at)myfairpoint.net>
Subject: Re: 8.5 X 6 tires on a Kolbra
Date: Sep 11, 2012
Nice ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 11, 2012
Subject: Re: Aileron trim tab
From: Rick Neilsen <neilsenrm(at)gmail.com>
Aileron trim tabs are good and will hide the effects of poorly rigged wings but why not fix the wing rigging. Kolb makes a optional fixture that allows the trailing edge of one or both wings to be moved up or down to correct most miss rigging issues. Again trim tabs can hide the effects of poorly rigged wings but there is more drag when a aileron needs to change the direction of a wing, when it can just be pointed where it should be. Richard Neilsen Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 3:13 PM, David Peters wrote: > If the plane flies straight and level in cruise flight you din't need it. > > > On Friday, September 7, 2012, David Kulp wrote: > > I have tabs on all 3 axis. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 7, 2012, at 9:55 AM, Larry Cottrell > wrote: > > > > I do on both! > > Larry > > > > On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 6:22 AM, tombaisley wrote: > >> > >> > >> How many people have a trim tab on their aileron? Should it be there at > all? or on the rudder? Just curious as an A&P was quizzing me about my trim > tab during my annual condition inspection. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Read this topic online here: > >> > >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=382581#382581 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ========== > >> arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List > >> ========== > >> http://forums.matronics.com > >> ========== > >> le, List Admin. > >> ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > >> ========== > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email > address before sending. > > > > > > > > > =============================================t > Email Forum - > otoshare, and much much more: > /Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List > > &3D================================================ > /forums.matronics.com > =============================================ntribution > Web Site - > -Matt Dralle, List Abution"> > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > 3D============================================= > > > > > > > * > > * > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 11, 2012
From: Malcolm Brubaker <brubakermal(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Firestar wanted i
I have a customer wanting a firestar in or -near michigan!=0A-please co ntact me off list-- mal-=0A=0AMalcolm & Jeanne Brubaker =0AMichigan S port Pilot Repair =0Ahttp://michigansportpilotrepair.com/ =0ALSRM-A, PPC, WS=0AGreat Sails - Sailmaker =0Afor Ultralight & Light Sport=0A(989)513-302 2 =0A- =0A=0A=0A=0A =0A=0A________________________________=0A From: vic < vicsv(at)myfairpoint.net>=0ATo: kolb-list(at)matronics.com =0ASent: Tuesday, Sept ember 11, 2012 6:07 PM=0ASubject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: 8.5 X 6 tires on a Kol ==================== ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: 8.5 X 6 tires on a Kolbra
From: "Jason Omelchuck" <jason@trek-tech.com>
Date: Sep 12, 2012
Attached is a picture of my aircraft with 21x7x8 shaved ATV tires on it. The rims are matco 8x6 rims. You can buy the tires from Dressler tire. I chose this instead of going the Nanking (nanco) 21x12x8 way because I felt I did not need the 12" of width (the ones I used are only 7" wide). I ran the tires without tubes and the set up was fairly light. This solution is more expensive than the complete set up being offered because of the cost of the matco rims. Jason Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=382922#382922 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/imgp4169_112.jpg ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: 8.5 X 6 tires on a Kolbra
From: "Jason Omelchuck" <jason@trek-tech.com>
Date: Sep 12, 2012
Attached is a picture of my aircraft with 21x7x8 shaved ATV tires on it. The rims are matco 8x6 rims. You can buy the tires from Dressler tire. I chose this instead of going the Nanking (nanco) 21x12x8 way because I felt I did not need the 12" of width (the ones I used are only 7" wide). I ran the tires without tubes and the set up was fairly light. This solution is more expensive than the complete set up being offered because of the cost of the matco rims. Jason Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=382926#382926 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/aeroprake_small_652.jpg ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: 8.5 X 6 tires on a Kolbra
Date: Sep 12, 2012
Kolbers: I have had good luck with Air Trac 800X6 aircraft tires on my MKIII which flies with a GVW of 1200+ lbs. They handle gulf coast dry sugar beach sand, mud, rough fields, tall weeds, sand and gravel bars in the rivers, and pavement well. They are trued and balanced to 120 MPH prior to leaving the factory. If I am going to be flying primarily on pavement and improved sod, I fly with about 10 PSI. If I am contemplating some serious off field work, I drop them down to 4 to 6 lbs. I tried 800X6 tires on my original Firestar. Quickly discovered the 15X6X6 lawn mower tires were all I needed to do my kind of flying off field. My main concern is to have enough floatation not to nose over in soft sand and ground. john h mkIII Rock House, near Burns Junction, OR ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: 8.5 X 6 tires on a Kolbra
From: kinne russ <russk50(at)gmail.com>
Date: Sep 12, 2012
Jason No picture! On Sep 12, 2012, at 10:56 AM, Jason Omelchuck wrote: > > Attached is a picture of my aircraft with 21x7x8 shaved ATV tires on it. The rims are matco 8x6 rims. You can buy the tires from Dressler tire. I chose this instead of going the Nanking (nanco) 21x12x8 way because I felt I did not need the 12" of width (the ones I used are only 7" wide). I ran the tires without tubes and the set up was fairly light. This solution is more expensive than the complete set up being offered because of the cost of the matco rims. > > Jason > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=382922#382922 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/imgp4169_112.jpg > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: FlagFly heel brake improvement
From: "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com>
Date: Sep 12, 2012
Sounds interesting, but a picture is worth a thousand words. -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=382976#382976 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Landing At The Rock House Cross Wind Strip
Date: Sep 13, 2012
Was sitting here looking out the door of my 5th wheel, at the Rock House, south of Burns Junction, OR, at the spot where I was getting ready to touch down last June. john h mkIII Rock House ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Rotax 503 Oil question
From: "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com>
Date: Sep 13, 2012
I have a local Arctic Cat dealer who sells INTERCEPTOR Synthetic 2-Stroke Oil. For low cost and ease of availability I'd like to switch to this brand. http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/ait.aspx?zo=0 Is this an acceptable choice ? ...Any cautions ? "Rotax recommends using a "super" two-stroke oil which corresponds to ASTM/CEC standards and/or API-TC classification. It is also essential to choose an oil which is designed for an air cooled engine even if you own a liquid cooled engine." Thanks -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383008#383008 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: GSC propeller
From: "pipercolt" <bob.pipercolt(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Sep 13, 2012
I have a Kolb Mk 111 with a Rotax 582. Has anyone had any experience with GSC propellers? Thanks Bob Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383023#383023 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: GSC propeller
Date: Sep 13, 2012
I have a Kolb Mk 111 with a Rotax 582. Has anyone had any experience with GSC propellers? Thanks Bob Had a 3 blade GSC prop fail, Sep 1993. Collected all 3 blades on the tail boom. Had to replace the tail boom. Immediately started flying Warp Drive props, and have for more than 3,000 WD since then, on 582, 912UL and 912ULS. Attached are photos of GSC and Warp Drive Blade Grips. No comparison between the two. john h mkIII Rock House, OR ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 13, 2012
From: Malcolm Brubaker <brubakermal(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: GSC propeller
I had one on my plane, the people in the shop are great to talk- to, easy to get along with and understand.- Give them a call thell set you up. I like the look of wood and becouse it is wood alot of people seem to replace them- as soon as they buy a plane that has one-so, used ones are easy to find and cheep But still worth the money.=0A-Thanks-To the people wh o responded to- my firestar request were still looking but got a couple l eads.- Please call if you would consider selling your firestar.- mal=0A =0AMalcolm & Jeanne Brubaker =0AMichigan Sport Pilot Repair =0Ahttp://mich igansportpilotrepair.com/ =0ALSRM-A, PPC, WS=0AGreat Sails - Sailmaker =0Af or Ultralight & Light Sport=0A(989)513-3022 =0A- =0A=0A=0A=0A =0A=0A_____ ___________________________=0A From: pipercolt <bob.pipercolt(at)yahoo.com>=0A =0ASubject: Kolb-List: GSC propeller=0A =0A--> Kolb-List message posted by : "pipercolt" =0A=0AI have a Kolb Mk 111 with a Ro tax 582. Has anyone had any experience with GSC propellers?=0AThanks=0ABob =0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.co - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Matt Dralle, List ====== ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 14, 2012
From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net>
Subject: GSC propeller
At 11:56 PM 9/13/2012, John Hauck wrote: >Had a 3 blade GSC prop fail, Sep 1993. Collected all 3 >blades on the tail boom. Had to replace the tail boom. John, I assume that was on the ground? Dana -- There are 3 kinds of people: those who can count & those who can't. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 14, 2012
From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: GSC propeller
At 10:13 PM 9/13/2012, pipercolt wrote: > >I have a Kolb Mk 111 with a Rotax 582. Has anyone had any experience with >GSC propellers? >Thanks Had one on a PPG and was very happy with it. Dana -- There are 3 kinds of people: those who can count & those who can't. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: GSC propeller
Date: Sep 14, 2012
Had a 3 blade GSC prop fail, Sep 1993. Collected all 3 blades on the tail boom. Had to replace the tail boom. John, I assume that was on the ground? Dana Was climbing full throttle. Probably had the dual K&N air filter go through the GSC, but cannot say for certain. Never found it. If I had had the filter safety wired, I would know for sure it did not go through the prop. The 582 immediately shut down as the carbs were thrown from the sockets, and the starter was ejected from the mag end of the engine. Carbs and starter were captured by the cables. Made a forced landing in the smallest "shoe box" sized field I have ever landed in without putting a scratch on the MKIII. john h mkIII Rock House, OR ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 14, 2012
From: David Kulp <undoctor(at)ptd.net>
Subject: Tailwheel upgrade
Kolbers, I'm looking to upgrade the tailwheel on my FlagFly. Kolb has a very nice replacement, but the cost, over 300 clams, puts a strain on the "is it worth the price" equation. Is anyone familiar with a less expensive alternative, or does anyone know of a used tailwheel appropriate for a FireFly for sale? Gorgeous early fall weather here. Spent much of the day in the sky yesterday as well as landing at paved airstrips so I can practice hard surface wheel and three point landings. One of my stops was the Butter Valley Golf Port, which is a combination of pilots and golfers and is very close to the twin cooling towers that mark Homer's strip. Had a luscious hamburger, enjoyed the atmosphere for a while and left. FlagFly is performing without flaw. (Thanks Don!!!) Dave Kulp Bethlehem, PA FireFly 11DMK ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 14, 2012
From: Phil <phactor9(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Tailwheel upgrade
You might want to try a less-than-$10 alternative, first. I recently taxied the tailwheel into a small mud rut and lost an S hook (and steering). I sp ent a few bucks at Ace and beefed up the linkage. Here's how I did it. Ace has a huge selection of springs and I didn't get the number of this spring, but by the dimensions, you should be able to match it. I haven't taxied wi th it yet. Hope to tomorrow (Sat). http://phactor.com/tailwheelLink.jpg http://phactor.com/tailwheelLink2.jpg http://phactor.com/tailwheelLink3.jpg Phil H FF11-4-76 --- On Fri, 9/14/12, David Kulp wrote: From: David Kulp <undoctor(at)ptd.net> Subject: Kolb-List: Tailwheel upgrade Date: Friday, September 14, 2012, 10:55 AM Kolbers, I'm looking to upgrade the tailwheel on my FlagFly.- Kolb has a very nice replacement, but the cost, over 300 clams, puts a strain on the "is it wor th the price" equation.---Is anyone familiar with a less expensive al ternative, or does anyone know of a used tailwheel appropriate for a FireFl y for sale? Gorgeous early fall weather here.- Spent much of the day in the sky yeste rday as well as landing at paved airstrips so I can practice hard surface w heel and three point landings.- One of my stops was the Butter Valley Gol f Port, which is a combination of pilots and golfers and is very close to t he twin cooling towers that mark Homer's strip.- Had a luscious hamburger , enjoyed the atmosphere for a while and left.- FlagFly is performing wit hout flaw.- (Thanks Don!!!) Dave Kulp Bethlehem, PA FireFly 11DMK le, List Admin. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Tailwheel upgrade
Date: Sep 14, 2012
Kolb has a very nice replacement, but the cost, over 300 clams, puts a strain on the "is it worth the price" equation Dave Kulp Kolb Aircraft tailwheel is a good quality tailwheel that will provide many hours of service. You usually get what you pay for. In addition, Kolb Aircraft needs our support if it is to continue to support us. Have made many landings at Butter Valley, back in 1991, while flying off the 40 hours on the factory MKIII, and building the fuselage and hardware for my MKIII, Miss P'fer (P fer plane). Dick Rahill showed me some neat airstrips in the local area around Homer's, the Nuke Plant, and Butter Valley. Beautiful place to fly. john h mkIII Rock House, OR ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 14, 2012
From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net>
Subject: GSC propeller
So what did it do to the tail boom that you were able to land it, but had to replace it? Makes me feel a bit better about the tailboom's safety factor... -Dana At 10:22 AM 9/14/2012, John Hauck wrote: > >Was climbing full throttle. Probably had the dual K&N air >filter go through the GSC, but cannot say for certain. >Never found it. If I had had the filter safety wired, I >would know for sure it did not go through the prop. > >The 582 immediately shut down as the carbs were thrown from >the sockets, and the starter was ejected from the mag end of >the engine. Carbs and starter were captured by the cables. > >Made a forced landing in the smallest "shoe box" sized field >I have ever landed in without putting a scratch on the >MKIII. > >john h >mkIII >Rock House, OR > > -- Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad. ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Tailwheel upgrade
From: "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com>
Date: Sep 14, 2012
"is it worth the price"? A resounding Yes, best money I ever spent on my Kolb ! -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383098#383098 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/tail_wheel_642.jpg ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: GSC propeller
Date: Sep 14, 2012
So what did it do to the tail boom that you were able to land it, but had to replace it? Makes me feel a bit better about the tailboom's safety factor... -Dana As you can imagine, there was a pretty good size dimple in the side of the boom tube in the area of the H brace. The tail boom was struck hard enough to knock it about 5 degrees out of column. I had no idea that the tail boom was bent until after the forced landing. In fact, all I knew was there was a terrific explosion, followed by severe vibration momentarily, then severe quiet. I had a small rectangular field surrounded on two sides by high tension power wires, one side by a large bamboo thicket and the other side by tall trees. The tail boom is tough, both 5 and 6 inch boom tubes. They are also very flexible which prolongs their life in the severe environment that they live. Scratches and nicks in the surface of the tube would be cause for concern. However, I know of one boom tube, 5", that got nicked and dimpled from FOD. The owner/pilot used scotch bright wheels to buff and polish out the surface. Flew many hours, then sold the aircraft to a really big pilot. The FSII continues to fly safely. john h mkIII Rock House, OR ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Rotax 503 Oil question
From: "cristalclear13" <cristalclearwaters(at)gmail.com>
Date: Sep 14, 2012
Dennis Thate wrote: > I have a local Arctic Cat dealer who sells INTERCEPTOR Synthetic 2-Stroke Oil. For low cost and ease of availability I'd like to switch to this brand. > http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/ait.aspx?zo=0 > > Is this an acceptable choice ? ...Any cautions ? > > "Rotax recommends using a "super" two-stroke oil which corresponds to ASTM/CEC standards and/or API-TC classification. It is also essential to choose an oil which is designed for an air cooled engine even if you own a liquid cooled engine." > > Thanks Dennis, I have not used this oil, but I would feel comfortable using it. It meets the requirements. I just wouldn't mix it with any other oil as they caution on the website. -------- Cristal Waters Kolb Mark II Twinstar Rotax 503 DCSI Sept 2007 - sold Sept 2012 Private Pilot Aug 2008 ELSA Repairman for N193Y April 2008 Rotax 2 stroke maintenance April 2009 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383113#383113 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Rotax 503 Oil question
From: "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com>
Date: Sep 14, 2012
Would you go as far as to say ... Clean the the oil injection reserve tank and the whole system before making the switch ? -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383119#383119 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 14, 2012
From: GARY JINDRA <gajindra(at)sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: GSC propeller
Had-a GSC on my 582 till an axle bolt broke on landing and went thru the =0Aprop.Split one blade from tip to root.Replaced with an IVO.Love the IVO. But I =0Aalso liked-the GSC till it broke.Replaced the AN 3 axle bolts wi th AN 4 bolts=0A-=0AGary Jindra=0AMark 3c=0A99 hours=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A______ __________________________=0AFrom: pipercolt <bob.pipercolt(at)yahoo.com>=0ATo : kolb-list(at)matronics.com=0ASent: Thu, September 13, 2012 10:13:13 PM=0ASub colt" =0A=0AI have a Kolb Mk 111 with a Rotax 582. Has anyone had any experience with GSC =0Apropellers?=0AThanks=0ABob=0A=0A =0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/view == ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 14, 2012
From: David Kulp <undoctor(at)ptd.net>
Subject: Re: Tailwheel upgrade
Thanks for the responses to my tailwheel question. As usual they play an important part in making a decision on what to do. Dennis' testimony about the ground handling improvement nudged me to go with the mod and John's point about supporting Kolb Aircraft was the tie-breaker. I've decided to go with the Kolb upgrade and feel good about the whole situation. Thanks again, guys. As always I appreciate the input. John, did you fly up to Blairstown, NJ? They have a nice little diner on the airport that has some fantastic home made zucchini cake. Dave Kulp Bethlehem, PA FireFly 11DMK On 9/14/2012 11:28 AM, Phil wrote: > You might want to try a less-than-$10 alternative, first. I recently > taxied the tailwheel into a small mud rut and lost an S hook (and > steering). I spent a few bucks at Ace and beefed up the linkage. > Here's how I did it. Ace has a huge selection of springs and I didn't > get the number of this spring, but by the dimensions, you should be > able to match it. I haven't taxied with it yet. Hope to tomorrow (Sat). > http://phactor.com/tailwheelLink.jpg > http://phactor.com/tailwheelLink2.jpg > http://phactor.com/tailwheelLink3.jpg > > Phil H > FF11-4-76 > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Tailwheel upgrade
Date: Sep 14, 2012
Dave K/Kolbers: Thanks for supporting Kolb Aircraft. No, never landed at Blairstown, NJ. john h mkIII Burns Junction, OR ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 14, 2012
Subject: Re: Tailwheel upgrade
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>
Dave, Glad that you decided on getting it from Kolb. One thing that you might find is that it breaks free too soon. I found that on a cross wind landing the wheel would already be "broke loose" before I even touched down, and if there is a substantial amount of cross wind, be a bit hard to control at taxi speed. ( I once did two 360's in the middle of a 10000 foot controlled runway much to the consternation of said controller, who seemed intent on forcing me to declare an emergency) ( the brakes got hot and wouldn't hold it in a straight line anymore) My fix was to take a dremel tool and hog out enough material that it kept the tail wheel from breaking loose at anything less than full rudder. If you are trying to spin the plane around, the rudder will be fully deflected anyway, and that way any 360's will be intentional. Your thoughts may differ, Larry On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 7:29 PM, David Kulp wrote: > Thanks for the responses to my tailwheel question. As usual they play an > important part in making a decision on what to do. Dennis' testimony > about the ground handling improvement nudged me to go with the mod and > John's point about supporting Kolb Aircraft was the tie-breaker. I've > decided to go with the Kolb upgrade and feel good about the whole > situation. Thanks again, guys. As always I appreciate the input. > > John, did you fly up to Blairstown, NJ? They have a nice little diner on > the airport that has some fantastic home made zucchini cake. > > Dave Kulp > Bethlehem, PA > FireFly 11DMK > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: FlagFly heel brake improvement
From: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Sep 15, 2012
I have some pictures of a Brake improvement.... I probably could have put "Lightening" holes in them... Maybe some day... These extensions brought the contact area "up" on my heel better... and the rotation while braking has good contact... Gotta Fly... Mike & "Jaz" the Flying Dogz . . -------- . . . . Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383155#383155 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/angles_brake_extentions_005_116.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/angles_brake_extentions_003_708.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/angles_brake_extentions_001_147.jpg ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: FlagFly heel brake improvement
From: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Sep 15, 2012
One more thing I added to my Heel Brakes... You can barely see them in the other post.... Parking Brake.... Not Hyd..... It's for the cable set-up... These tuck away safely.... and "Hold" pretty good when used... Pictures are worth a thousand words... . Gotta Fly... . PS I was leaving a fly-in after spending the night... I was ready to taxi... Power , power.... WTF ? Was I in a RUT.... Oooops , Forgot to release the Parking Brakes.... . -------- . . . . Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383157#383157 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/pictures_from_cd_185_203.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/pictures_from_cd_186_179.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/pictures_from_cd_188_211.jpg ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "b young" <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Tailwheel upgrade
Date: Sep 15, 2012
Dave, Glad that you decided on getting it from Kolb. One thing that you might find is that it breaks free too soon. I found that on a cross wind landing the wheel would already be "broke loose" before I even touched down, and if there is a substantial amount of cross wind, be a bit hard to control at taxi speed. ( I once did two 360's in the middle of a 10000 foot controlled runway much to the consternation of said controller, who seemed intent on forcing me to declare an emergency) ( the brakes got hot and wouldn't hold it in a straight line anymore) My fix was to take a dremel tool and hog out enough material that it kept the tail wheel from breaking loose at anything less than full rudder. If you are trying to spin the plane around, the rudder will be fully deflected anyway, and that way any 360's will be intentional. Your thoughts may differ, Larry >>>>>>>>>>>>>> dont know if my tailwheel was modified.... but i am happy with it... you may want to try it before any mods. then make corrections to your needs. boyd young ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 16, 2012
Subject: Re: Tailwheel upgrade
From: JC Gilpin <j.gilpin(at)bigpond.com>
Yes, the tailwheel upgrade is essential. That pizza cutter is pathetic..... For my FireFly, I bought the one from Aircraft Spruce because it was in stock for immediate shipment and Kolb had none in stock at that time. Bad mistake..... The mounting hole in the Spruce unit is 1/2" while the tail spring on the Kolb is 5/8". It's a difficult machining job because there's a square boss so it won't fit in a lathe chuck normally. I took it to a well equipped machine shop and they had to mount it the chuck from the driven end but then it was buried so deep in the chuck that a conventional boring bar wouldn't reach, so they had to fabricate an extension..... Cost $130 for 1 1/2 work... So get it from Kolb ready to use. Then I found the same problem as Larry, that breakaway swivel feature is a pain, and totally useless if you don't have differential braking.... So I also had to machine it out so that it doesn't release. So what's the point of paying so much for all that mechanism just to get a wider tailwheel...... Besides, that assembly is heavy and designed for a much heavier aircraft. Another problem with this mechanism is that the steering levers are much longer, so there's even less steering deflection at full lock, making it even more difficult to turn around on a runway..... The arm is very hard steel so I couldn't drill new holes. The original tailwheel mechanism on the Kolb is quite adequate, it's only the pizza cutter wheel that's the problem. I noticed that the new tailwheel bearings would fit on the original axle shaft, but the axle wasn't long enough to reach right through the new wheel. To do it again I'd just weld a longer axle onto the original mechanism and fit a new wheel on it. Surely the wheels must be available as a replacement. Sure would be good if Kolb would source those wheels and manufacture a replacement mounting that would just bolt onto the original mechanism. Be a lot simpler, lighter, and less costly..... JG ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Tailwheel upgrade
Date: Sep 15, 2012
Sure would be good if Kolb would source those wheels and manufacture a replacement mounting that would just bolt onto the original mechanism. Be a lot simpler, lighter, and less costly..... JG JG/Kolbers: Good to see John G is still kicking and in the US. I think your note above is enough to jog Travis Brown and get some action going to upgrade the tail wheel. After all, the snowmobile bogie wheel tail wheel was same as what came on my FS Kit in 1985 or 86. john h mkIII Rock House ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Tailwheel upgrade
Date: Sep 15, 2012
Kolbers: I might add to my previous, the tail wheel in the 1984 Ultrastar Kit was a little tiny rubber tired steel "tea cart" wheel. Was embarrassing to taxi a few feet at the local airport and have the little rubber tire come off the wheel. Have to unstrap, get out, and put it back on prior to take off. When the FS kit came along with a wheel with tire vulcanized on it, plus a set of real ball bearings instead of a steel bushing, I thought I was walking in tall cotton. Kolb has come a very long ways since the good old days of the early '80s. john h Rock House ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Rotax 503 Oil question
From: "cristalclear13" <cristalclearwaters(at)gmail.com>
Date: Sep 15, 2012
Dennis Thate wrote: > Would you go as far as to say ... Clean the the oil injection reserve tank and the whole system before making the switch ? Dennis, If I were a mechanic that you were paying me to do this, yes I would clean it out. This is what that website says about their product: "INTERCEPTOR is compatible with most conventional and synthetic two-cycle oils; however, for best performance, mixing oils should be minimized." -------- Cristal Waters Kolb Mark II Twinstar Rotax 503 DCSI Sept 2007 - sold Sept 2012 Private Pilot Aug 2008 ELSA Repairman for N193Y April 2008 Rotax 2 stroke maintenance April 2009 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383192#383192 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: FlagFly heel brake improvement
From: "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com>
Date: Sep 16, 2012
The Matco brakes on my Slingshot have the heel piece far enough aft that the pilot's heel falls naturally in the prop place for easy actuation. -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY (9G0) Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Diamond Katana DA20-A1 Rotax 912 F3 Don't worry about old age... it doesn't last very long. - Anonymous Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383214#383214 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/heel_brake_master_cylinder_right_456.jpg ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 16, 2012
From: chris davis <capedavis(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: FlagFly heel brake improvement
David , Nice job on your parking brakes, but i have a question for you .I a m still building my Firefly I built and flew my Firestar KXP for ten years never had brakes .Other than engine run-ups and parking does flying a Firef ly require brakes landing or turning on the ground ? Will i be lost without them ? thanks Chris=0A=0A=0AChris Davis=0AKXP 503 492 hrs=0AGlider Pilot =0ADisabled from crash building Firefly=0A=0AFrom: David Kulp <undoctor@ptd .net>=0ATo: kolb-list(at)matronics.com =0ASent: Saturday, September 8, 2012 9: 37 PM=0ASubject: Kolb-List: FlagFly heel brake improvement=0A=0A--> Kolb-Li st message posted by: David Kulp =0A=0AG'day Kolb drivers ,=0A=0AI did a mod to my Matco heel brakes on my FlagFly that turned out to be one of those YES!!! moments.- Reaching for my brakes required a very unnatural thrusting my heels forward all the while trying to steer with the rudder pedal.- The way my knees are bent while sitting in the FF made it a difficult thing to do.- So I went about trying to improve the situatio n.=0A=0AFirst I cut two 3/4" lengths from a large dowel, shaped the one sid e concave to match the brake pedals, and epoxied them to the pedals. Felt a lot better in use, but in a short time one of them came off, so I removed the other one, too.=0A=0AFlew that way for a while, but still wanted to do a more permanent fix, so I hunted through my "stuff" and found that the dia meter of the brake pedals is just slightly larger than the OD of 1 1/2" PVC . I trucked over to Home Depot and browsed through related items to try to find something which would fit over the pedals and not have to be glued on. - And there they were; rubber end caps with hose clamps to cap off an inc h and a half PVC pipe.=0A=0ABought two and brought them home.- Measured t he inside depth and cut two pieces of inch and a half PVC pipe about 3/16" shorter, using my radial arm saw in order to get a perfectly square cut.- I pushed the pieces of PVC into the end caps, moved the clamp flush to the edge, and pushed them onto the brake pedals.- Tightening the clamps then compresses the edge of the rubber cap nicely around the edge of the pedal while the downward force is transmitted from your heel to the pedal via the PVC pipe.- A very solid function.=0A=0AI checked for any conflicts from the screw mechanism on the clamps and finding none, climbed in and worked t he brakes and rudders.- Not only does it allow my foot to position perfec tly, the rubber creates a slip-proof surface, like the brake pedal in your car.=0A=0ASo, if anyone else has the same annoying foot position with your heel brakes, maybe you can give this a try.- About five bucks and fifteen minutes is all it takes.=0A=0ADave Kulp=0ABethlehem, PA=0AFireFly 11DMK=0A =0ABTW, Don G. put VGs on the underside of the horiz stab on my FlagFly, an d although I don't know how it would handle without, it flies so great with =========================0A ======================= ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: FlagFly heel brake improvement
From: "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com>
Date: Sep 16, 2012
My Firestar came equipped like this with an adjustable heel brake. -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383222#383222 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/0000000_201.jpg ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: FlagFly heel brake improvement
From: "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com>
Date: Sep 16, 2012
Chris, Regarding brake requirements for any very light aircraft: My Opinion. If you fly only to/from grass and the winds on the ground when you are operating are not very high, you likely will not need brakes. When I was flying my first FS without brakes from a grass strip I never needed them, until one day on a x-country I had to land at a paved airport for fuel. I was fine until I started taxiing downwind toward the runway threshold on a paved taxi way for subsequent take-off. I had to stop the engine and it still kept going until I steered off the pavement onto the grass. Bottom line is, if you ever operate on pavement, the brakes are close to essential. You don't need much braking but you do need some under these circumstances. Or else you'll have to stick to grass or nearly dead calm wind conditions. -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY (9G0) Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Diamond Katana DA20-A1 Rotax 912 F3 Don't worry about old age... it doesn't last very long. - Anonymous Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383223#383223 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 16, 2012
From: David Kulp <undoctor(at)ptd.net>
Subject: Re: FlagFly heel brake improvement
Hi Chris, I've never flown a FireStar, having gone from an UltraStar to my FlagFly, but I doubt if there's a whole lot of difference on the ground. When landing I don't use the brakes for control, I dance with the rudder pedals in a crosswind. About the only time I use my brakes on landing is if I can land short and get off the runway on the first taxiway, otherwise I just pretty much let it roll out. But with a 2K RPM idle, on a hard surface you can roll quite a distance, albeit slowly after the momentum bleeds off. Again, on a hard surface, concrete, blacktop or even some aggregates, it will roll at idle. When you're on an apron with other very expensive aircraft parked nearby you want to be ready to kill the mill if you don't have brakes. On grass, the surface is such that the FF will stop at idle, so if that's all you fly from, you're OK. Where I start my FF the aggregate is hard and smooth and it tends to roll, with me standing outside unable to operate the brakes. Not good. So I have chocks with a nylon strap long enough to go from one chock, up around the handle of my BRS (or anything else that's handy) and down to the other chock. After it's running and I've climbed in, I pull the chocks on board and stash them in the compartment for use wherever I land next. As far as running the engine up, with the high thrust line if you run it up too high with the brakes locked you're looking to re-position your FF on its nose, which could be quite embarrassing, if nothing else. My routine is to check for normal engine response when I'm taxiing for takeoff, and when I give it full power to climb out I check for proper RPMs - 6200 with my prop adjustment on my 447. Much less and I'd chop the power and find out what gives. Different subject; I read a post recently of someone (I forget who) who just installed an electric fuel pump. When I bought the FlagFly, Don G., the man who built it, recommended that I have the electric fuel pump switched on for takeoff as insurance against vacuum pump failure, but to switch it off at altitude and allow the vacuum pump do the job. Then if the vacuum pump fails you know it and can switch on the electric, plus if you have a nasty return to earth, the electric pump won't be pumping fuel on whatever is near it. Make up your own mind, of course, but that makes sense to me, and sense is the most critical element of flying, IMHO. One final note; Russ, you gave me a good chuckle with your multiple ground loops at the airshow story. Don't we all fear being in such a position at some time? Of course, if the airshow announcer was cool, he'd have narrated your antics as part of the airshow and gotten you applause from the zillions in the crowd! And maybe a paycheck to boot! One gusty day landing on concrete at Blairstown a gust initiated what I was sure would be a ground loop but I trounced the rudder and all I got was a swerve to the edge of the runway. Even with that I was hoping no one was watching, so I can pretty much imagine your experience before a captive audience. Happy gorgeous (at least here in PA) Sunday to you all! Dave Kulp Bethlehem, PA FireFly 11DMK On 9/16/2012 8:54 AM, chris davis wrote: > David , Nice job on your parking brakes, but i have a question for you > .I am still building my Firefly I built and flew my Firestar KXP for > ten years never had brakes .Other than engine run-ups and parking does > flying a Firefly require brakes landing or turning on theground ? Will > i be lost without them ? thanks Chris > Chris Davis > KXP 503 492 hrs > Glider Pilot > Disabled from crash building Firefly > *From:* David Kulp > *To:* kolb-list(at)matronics.com > *Sent:* Saturday, September 8, 2012 9:37 PM > *Subject:* Kolb-List: FlagFly heel brake improvement > > > > > G'day Kolb drivers, > > I did a mod to my Matco heel brakes on my FlagFly that turned out to > be one of those YES!!! moments. Reaching for my brakes required a > very unnatural thrusting my heels forward all the while trying to > steer with the rudder pedal. The way my knees are bent while sitting > in the FF made it a difficult thing to do. So I went about trying to > improve the situation. > > First I cut two 3/4" lengths from a large dowel, shaped the one side > concave to match the brake pedals, and epoxied them to the pedals. > Felt a lot better in use, but in a short time one of them came off, so > I removed the other one, too. > > Flew that way for a while, but still wanted to do a more permanent > fix, so I hunted through my "stuff" and found that the diameter of the > brake pedals is just slightly larger than the OD of 1 1/2" PVC. I > trucked over to Home Depot and browsed through related items to try to > find something which would fit over the pedals and not have to be > glued on. And there they were; rubber end caps with hose clamps to > cap off an inch and a half PVC pipe. > > Bought two and brought them home. Measured the inside depth and cut > two pieces of inch and a half PVC pipe about 3/16" shorter, using my > radial arm saw in order to get a perfectly square cut. I pushed the > pieces of PVC into the end caps, moved the clamp flush to the edge, > and pushed them onto the brake pedals. Tightening the clamps then > compresses the edge of the rubber cap nicely around the edge of the > pedal while the downward force is transmitted from your heel to the > pedal via the PVC pipe. A very solid function. > > I checked for any conflicts from the screw mechanism on the clamps and > finding none, climbed in and worked the brakes and rudders. Not only > does it allow my foot to position perfectly, the rubber creates a > slip-proof surface, like the brake pedal in your car. > > So, if anyone else has the same annoying foot position with your heel > brakes, maybe you can give this a try. About five bucks and fifteen > minutes is all it takes. > > Dave Kulp > Bethlehem, PA > FireFly 11DMK > > BTW, Don G. put VGs on the underside of the horiz stab on my FlagFly, > and although I don't know how it would handle without, it flies so > great wi ==== > > > * > > > * ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 16, 2012
From: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart(at)onlyinternet.net>
Subject: Re: Tailwheel upgrade
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 01:59:02 +1000 From: JC Gilpin <j.gilpin(at)bigpond.com> > Yes, the tailwheel upgrade is essential. That pizza cutter is pathetic..... For my FireFly,............. > JC, I have found the original tail wheel to be more than adequate. With a tail weight of less than 60 pounds, it has held up very well. Due to long taxiing on hard surfaces the tire wore away down to the plastic and I had to replace it after 634 flights. The only problems I have had are with the tail wheel springs and pivot bolt. The first spring broke upon landing after the 635 flight and resulted in a ground loop. Thinking that it was a fluke, I replaced it with a Kolb spring. Fourteen flights later the opposite spring broke. Luckily it did not result in a ground loop. This made me think about it a little more and I decided to use clevis springs, but I could not find any that were small enough to fit on the FireFly. So I resorted to making my own set up from bicycle spokes and compression die springs. The advantage of this system, is that there is little if any chance of the spring breaking. During this refitting process, I discovered the steel on steel pivot bolt and holes were badly worn. To repair it I re drilled all the holes and inserted brass tube bushings and thrust washer and a new bolt. This took all the slop out of the pivot. The benefit from this effort has been that the FireFly ground turning radius is much smaller that it was before. The compression spring setup is stiffer and so the FireFly is much less squirrelly when taking or landing in cross winds. When I was building my FireFly I cut the tail wheel spring rod length in half. I did this to save weight and to make sure I could make the 254 pound weight limit. If you would like to view these mod's, they can be seen at: http://jackbhart.com/firefly/firefly133.html and: http://jackbhart.com/firefly/firefly41.html Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 16, 2012
From: chris davis <capedavis(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: FlagFly heel brake improvement
David thanks for the reply it sounds like its just like the firestar . My h ome field is asphalt but there is a grass strip alongside which I-always used but the taxi strips are asphalt also and in the summer\ there are a lo t of expensive aircraft to avoid =0A=0A-- The reason I asked is I am tr ying to stay a legal ultralight and i am afraid that the adaptive equipment and the brakes \combined would put me over.thank again Chris=0AChris Davis =0AKXP 503 492 hrs=0AGlider Pilot=0ADisabled from crash building Firefly=0A =0AFrom: David Kulp <undoctor(at)ptd.net>=0ATo: kolb-list(at)matronics.com =0ASen t: Sunday, September 16, 2012 11:21 AM=0ASubject: Re: Kolb-List: FlagFly he el brake improvement=0A=0A=0AHi Chris,=0A=0AI've never flown a FireStar, ha ving gone from an UltraStar to my FlagFly, but I doubt if there's a whole l ot of difference on the ground.- When landing I don't use the brakes for control, I dance with the rudder pedals in a crosswind.- About the only t ime I use my brakes on landing is if I can land short and get off the runwa y on the first taxiway, otherwise I just pretty much let it roll out.- Bu t with a 2K RPM idle, on a hard surface you can roll quite a distance, albe it slowly after the momentum bleeds off.=0A=0AAgain, on a hard surface, con crete, blacktop or even some aggregates, it will roll at idle.- When you' re on an apron with other very expensive aircraft parked nearby you want to be ready to kill the mill if you don't have brakes.- On grass, the surfa ce is such that the FF will stop at idle, so if that's all you fly from, yo u're OK.- Where I start my FF the aggregate is hard and smooth and it ten ds to roll, with me standing outside unable to operate the brakes.- Not g ood.- So I have chocks with a nylon strap long enough to go from one choc k, up around the handle of my BRS (or anything else that's handy) and down to the other chock.- After it's running and I've climbed in, I pull the c hocks on board and stash them in the compartment for use wherever I land ne xt.=0A=0AAs far as running the engine up, with the high thrust line if you run it up too high with the brakes locked you're looking to re-position you r FF on its nose, which could be quite embarrassing, if nothing else.- My routine is to check for normal engine response when I'm taxiing for takeof f, and when I give it full power to climb out I check for proper RPMs - 620 0 with my prop adjustment on my 447.- Much less and I'd chop the power an d find out what gives.=0A=0ADifferent subject; I read a post recently of so meone (I forget who) who just installed an electric fuel pump.- When I bo ught the FlagFly, Don G., the man who built it, recommended that I have the electric fuel pump switched on for takeoff as insurance against vacuum pum p failure, but to switch it off at altitude and allow the vacuum pump do th e job.- Then if the vacuum pump fails you know it and can switch on the e lectric, plus if you have a nasty return to earth, the electric pump won't be pumping fuel on whatever is near it.- Make up your own mind, of course , but that makes sense to me, and sense is the most critical element of fly ing, IMHO.=0A=0AOne final note; Russ, you gave me a good chuckle with your multiple ground loops at the airshow story.- Don't we all fear being in s uch a position at some time?- Of course, if the airshow announcer was coo l, he'd have narrated your antics as part of the airshow and gotten you app lause from the zillions in the crowd!- And maybe a paycheck to boot!- O ne gusty day landing on concrete at Blairstown a gust initiated what I was sure would be a ground loop but I trounced the rudder and all I got was a s werve to the edge of the runway.- Even with that I was hoping no one was watching, so I can pretty much imagine your experience before a captive aud ience.=0A=0AHappy gorgeous (at least here in PA) Sunday to you all!=0A=0ADa ve Kulp=0ABethlehem, PA=0AFireFly 11DMK=0A=0A=0A=0AOn 9/16/2012 8:54 AM, ch ris davis wrote:=0A=0ADavid , Nice job on your parking brakes, but i have a question for you .I am still building my Firefly I built and flew my Fires tar KXP for ten years never had brakes .Other than engine run-ups and parki ng does flying a Firefly require brakes landing or turning on the ground ? Will i be lost without them ? thanks Chris=0A>=0A>=0A>Chris Davis=0A>KXP 50 3 492 hrs=0A>Glider Pilot=0A>Disabled from crash building Firefly=0A>=0A>Fr om: David Kulp mailto:undoctor(at)ptd.net=0A>To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com =0A>S ent: Saturday, September 8, 2012 9:37 PM=0A>Subject: Kolb-List: FlagFly hee octor(at)ptd.net>=0A>=0A>G'day Kolb drivers,=0A>=0A>I did a mod to my Matco he el brakes on my FlagFly that turned out to be one of those YES!!! moments. - Reaching for my brakes required a very unnatural thrusting my heels for ward all the while trying to steer with the rudder pedal.- The way my kne es are bent while sitting in the FF made it a difficult thing to do.- So I went about trying to improve the situation.=0A>=0A>First I cut two 3/4" l engths from a large dowel, shaped the one side concave to match the brake p edals, and epoxied them to the pedals. Felt a lot better in use, but in a s hort time one of them came off, so I removed the other one, too.=0A>=0A>Fle w that way for a while, but still wanted to do a more permanent fix, so I h unted through my "stuff" and found that the diameter of the brake pedals is just slightly larger than the OD of 1 1/2" PVC. I trucked over to Home Dep ot and browsed through related items to try to find something which would f it over the pedals and not have to be glued on.- And there they were; rub ber end caps with hose clamps to cap off an inch and a half PVC pipe.=0A> =0A>Bought two and brought them home.- Measured the inside depth and cut two pieces of inch and a half PVC pipe about 3/16" shorter, using my radial arm saw in order to get a perfectly square cut.- I pushed the pieces of PVC into the end caps, moved the clamp flush to the edge, and pushed them o nto the brake pedals.- Tightening the clamps then compresses the edge of the rubber cap nicely around the edge of the pedal while the downward force is transmitted from your heel to the pedal via the PVC pipe.- A very sol id function.=0A>=0A>I checked for any conflicts from the screw mechanism on the clamps and finding none, climbed in and worked the brakes and rudders. - Not only does it allow my foot to position perfectly, the rubber create s a slip-proof surface, like the brake pedal in your car.=0A>=0A>So, if any one else has the same annoying foot position with your heel brakes, maybe y ou can give this a try.- About five bucks and fifteen minutes is all it t akes.=0A>=0A>Dave Kulp=0A>Bethlehem, PA=0A>FireFly 11DMK=0A>=0A>BTW, Don G. put VGs on the underside of the horiz stab on my FlagFly, and although I d on't know how it would handle without, it flies so great wi- - - - ===== ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 16, 2012
From: chris davis <capedavis(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: FlagFly heel brake improvement
Thom, you had about the same info as David . I guess its about the same as a Firestar , thats whast I thoughty but I wasnt sure how much difference th at short wing would make landing and such I guess-I will have to wait and see how much not having full use of my legs increases the need for brakes ,I think it might maybe just a brake lever (or 2) on the stick would do tha nk you Chris-=0AChris Davis=0AKXP 503 492 hrs=0AGlider Pilot=0ADisabled f rom crash building Firefly=0A=0AFrom: Thom Riddle <riddletr(at)gmail.com>=0ATo : kolb-list(at)matronics.com =0ASent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 10:56 AM=0ASu bject: Kolb-List: Re: FlagFly heel brake improvement=0A=0A--> Kolb-List mes sage posted by: "Thom Riddle" =0A=0AChris,=0ARegarding brake requirements for any very light aircraft: =0AMy Opinion. If you fly o nly to/from grass and the winds on the ground when you are operating are no t very high, you likely will not need brakes. When I was flying my first FS without brakes from a grass strip I never needed them, until one day on a x-country I had to land at a paved airport for fuel. I was fine until I sta rted taxiing downwind toward the runway threshold on a paved taxi way for s ubsequent take-off. I had to stop the engine and it still kept going until I steered off the pavement onto the grass.=0A=0ABottom line is, if you ever operate on pavement, the brakes are close to essential. You don't need muc h braking but you do need some under these circumstances. Or else you'll ha ve to stick to grass or nearly dead calm wind conditions.=0A=0A--------=0AT hom Riddle=0ABuffalo, NY (9G0)=0A=0AKolb Slingshot SS-021=0AJabiru 2200A #1 574=0A=0ADiamond Katana DA20-A1=0ARotax 912 F3=0A=0ADon't worry about old a ge... it doesn't last very long. =0A- Anonymous=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this top ic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383223#3 ==================== ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 17, 2012
Subject: kolbster ages
From: Robert Laird <rlaird(at)cavediver.com>
I set up this poll in Sept 2009, and actually got a new entry the other day... so, I figured I'd update it here: Hopefully, this embedded image (below) will show up on the forum. If it doesn't, let me know and I'll post it in a text format. This represents the division of 80 different respondents. If you did not ever submit your age to it, you can still do so, here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dGM3U3VrV0pRMzlWYU1lSzdaYkJPQUE6MA.. [image: Inline image 1] ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: kolbster ages
Date: Sep 17, 2012
I resubmitted. There are a bunch of us over 71 although that is not indicated. john h mkIII Rock House, OR ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: kolbster ages
From: daniel myers <h20maule(at)hotmail.com>
Date: Sep 17, 2012
Daniel Myers...22 years old fs2 amphibian Thanks, Daniel Myers Cell: 407 920 7700 On Sep 17, 2012, at 11:01 AM, "John Hauck" wrote: > > I resubmitted. There are a bunch of us over 71 although that is not indic ated. > > john h > mkIII > Rock House, OR > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Arksey(at)aol.com
Date: Sep 17, 2012
Subject: RE:Kolbster ages
yes I may be the oldest.....soon will be 82 yrs old....flew the firestar a couple of days ago...I re posted....blue skys and safe flying to all ...jswan Jim Swan Kolb Firestar ll, 503 Rotax , 6147 Wilcox Rd., Eaton Rapids, Mi 48827 ph 517-663-8488 GPS GPS FOR MY RUNWAY N 42 deg 28.581 W084deg 44.825 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 17, 2012
From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Tailwheel upgrade
I too have the original pizza cutter wheel on my Ultrastar. I've thought about a full swivel, but I'd rather not add the extra weight. One thing I may do is to modify it so it can turn 90=B0 if pushed hard enough; that should reduce the side load on the tail post when swinging the tail around. -Dana -- Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 17, 2012
From: chris davis <capedavis(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Tailwheel upgrade
Anybody try using a Hockey puck to replace the pizza cutter? I got over thr ee hundred hours out of my original pizza cutter =0A=0A-but the Hockey pu ck sounded like a good idea!=0AChris Davis=0AKXP 503 492 hrs=0AGlider Pilot =0ADisabled from crash building Firefly=0A=0AFrom: Dana Hague <d-m-hague@co mcast.net>=0ATo: kolb-list(at)matronics.com =0ASent: Monday, September 17, 201 2 12:26 PM=0ASubject: RE: Kolb-List: Tailwheel upgrade=0A=0A=0AI too have t he original pizza cutter wheel on my Ultrastar.- I've thought about a ful l swivel, but I'd rather not add the extra weight.- One thing I may do is to modify it so it can turn 90=B0 if pushed hard enough; that should reduc e the side load on the tail post when swinging the tail around.=0A=0A-Dana =0A=0A=0A--=0AClothes make the man.- Naked people have little or no influ ===================== ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Kolb Seat Question
From: "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com>
Date: Sep 18, 2012
In rough air I feel like I'm sliding around too much for comfort. I'm looking for a seat that conforms and supports the body better then just my flat seat. Anyone have any suggestions. The Kolb seat in this photo looks Ideal. -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383435#383435 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/kolb_formed_seat_389.jpg ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 18, 2012
From: Phil <phactor9(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb Seat Question
My solution? An ugly green $9.95 Walmart / KMart / Academy Sports bass boat seat trimmed of all ribbing and edging. This produces a nice rear-end-shap ed bucket that the Kolb Firefly sling then supports quite nicely. Use four 1/4" blind nuts and bolts-with metal straps underneath to fasten the shel l to the lower seat bar on the Kolb cage. This actually aided in scooting m e back an additional 5 - 6 inches (I'm 6' 7"). Then I bought some cheap naugahyde-like fabric and sewed a wedge shaped cus hion with a zipper I then filled with extra firm foam, using Velcro to hold it to the seat. http://phactor.com/BassSeat1.jpg http://phactor.com/BassSeat2.jpg Phil H. FF11-4-76 --- On Tue, 9/18/12, Dennis Thate wrote: From: Dennis Thate <retroman(at)frontier.com> Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb Seat Question Date: Tuesday, September 18, 2012, 1:07 PM In rough air I feel like I'm sliding around too much for comfort. I'm looki ng for a seat that conforms and supports the body better then just my flat seat.- Anyone have any suggestions. The Kolb seat in this photo looks Ideal. -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society.- The optimist in vents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute.- ~Gil Stern Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383435#383435 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/kolb_formed_seat_389.jpg le, List Admin. ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Kolb Seat Question
From: "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com>
Date: Sep 18, 2012
Phil, Great idea, 'll look into it, and thanks for posting the photos as well . -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383451#383451 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Kolb Seat Question
From: "Carolina Flyer" <joe.a.lawson(at)gmail.com>
Date: Sep 18, 2012
That seat belongs to David LeGrand out of Winston Salem North Carolina. I know because I'm the 1 to turn him on to those seats and he uses them and all his Lazairs and kolbs that he rebuilds. That seat is the buckets seat that is sold on Aircraft Spruce. it is all fiberglass. The seat cover comes from air-tech,... I would be using 1 of those seats myself but I'm a little too wide for it -------- Kolb Firestar II 503 C-Box / RK400 Soon to have a Rotax 670 DCDI with a C-Box and RK 400 Clutch Challenger II 503 Tall Drive Location : Buffalo South Carolina Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383460#383460 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Kolb Seat Question
From: "Carolina Flyer" <joe.a.lawson(at)gmail.com>
Date: Sep 18, 2012
That seat belongs to David LeGrand out of Winston Salem North Carolina. I know because I'm the 1 to turn him on to those seats and he uses them and all his Lazairs and kolbs that he rebuilds. That seat is the buckets seat that is sold on Aircraft Spruce. it is all fiberglass. The seat cover comes from air-tech,... I would be using 1 of those seats myself but I'm a little too wide for it -------- Kolb Firestar II 503 C-Box / RK400 Soon to have a Rotax 670 DCDI with a C-Box and RK 400 Clutch Challenger II 503 Tall Drive Location : Buffalo South Carolina Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383462#383462 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Kolb Seat Question
From: "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com>
Date: Sep 18, 2012
Hand layed up for extreme lightness. Wt. 3 lbs. 10 oz. Thats it ! Thanks C-Flyer -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383465#383465 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/aircraft_spruce_144.jpg ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 18, 2012
From: Phil <phactor9(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb Seat Question
$9.95 ugly green Bass Boat seat (painted white), trimmed of all ribs and pe rimeter: 14oz.- Hardware: probably one oz. Phil H. FF11-4-76 --- On Tue, 9/18/12, Dennis Thate wrote: From: Dennis Thate <retroman(at)frontier.com> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb Seat Question Date: Tuesday, September 18, 2012, 6:27 PM Hand layed up for extreme lightness. Wt. 3 lbs. 10 oz. Thats it ! Thanks C-Flyer -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society.- The optimist in vents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute.- ~Gil Stern Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383465#383465 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/aircraft_spruce_144.jpg le, List Admin. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 18, 2012
From: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart(at)onlyinternet.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb Seat Question
> >In rough air I feel like I'm sliding around too much for comfort. I'm looking for a seat that conforms and supports the body better then just my flat seat. Anyone have any suggestions. > Dennis, I am six feet tall, but very short legs, so that the web seat installed as it was designed for the FireFly did not allow me to reach the rudder pedals. To slide my self closer to the rudder pedals, I removed the rivets that attached the seat to the rear cross tube and tighten the lacing on the top of the seat. This turned the seat into a true sling seat. >From this I discovered two things. It did slide me forward so that I could reach the rudder pedals, but at the same time it allowed the lower cheeks to swing from side to side, and the front seat cross tube cut into the back of my legs. To remove pressure on the back of the legs, I installed a cheek board with a memory foam cushion. The uncomfortable lower cheek swing was controlled by tightening the seat belt. Also, I use double shoulder belts. In rough air, I have found that I am quite comfortable as long as my hips do not swing from side to side and my shoulders do not come off the seat. Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "George Bearden" <gab16(at)sbcglobal.net>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List Digest: 9 Msgs - 09/18/12
Date: Sep 19, 2012
> I'm looking for a seat that conforms and supports the body better My Firestar seat is looking pretty natty these days. I have been kinda keeping my eyes out for a replacement. I also have shorter legs. Magnificent, but shorter. I ride recumbent bicycles a lot and have looked at the construction of those. LOTS more comfortable than what I have. Durable and feather light. Some are way too expensive, if you can imagine something more expensive than aviation stuff. Some too narrow. But lots to choose from, many styles. Just an idea. It would take some imagination to get it all mounted. ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Kolb Seat Question
From: "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org>
Date: Sep 19, 2012
Or you could invest a lot more time, money, and effort and do one of these. http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/FSII%20seat%20page.html -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org Kingsport, TN 3TN0 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Hebrews 11:1 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383504#383504 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Rotax 503 Oil question
From: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Sep 19, 2012
Wow, Spendy stuff... I was going to use some expensive two stroke oil at first... But as I thought about it... I couldn't get it just anywhere... So instead I bought Walmart two stroke... Cheap , Fly anywhere and you'll find some... Seems to run/burn just fine... ( 7 yrs ) Although , I do have the oil injector... I don't mix the gas. . Gotta Fly... -------- . . . . Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383515#383515 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/18_baraboo_07_400.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/20_baraboo_07_585.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/my_x_country_flight_to_baraboo_wi_001_749.jpg ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Kolb Seat Question
From: "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com>
Date: Sep 19, 2012
Richard... that's very extravagant and nice. I'm going to try this bass fish boat 3.5 pound Indestructible heavy duty plastic polyurethane contoured seat at only $11.96 on sale at Wal mart. I'll let you know how it works out. No more slip/sliding around in turbulence, I hope ! -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383524#383524 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/wal_mart_seat_004_402.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/forum_1_603.jpg ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: rotax377
From: "wakataka" <wakataka(at)charter.net>
Date: Sep 19, 2012
I've just recently purchased an original model Firestar with a 377. Empty weight is about 325# and I weigh about 200#. I need to take some pitch out of the prop because the engine is only turning about 6100 rpm at full throttle, but I'm still getting better than 600 feet per minute on climb. It's the smoothest running 2-stroke I've ever flown. Also, it runs cool compared to a 447. Even in the current over-propped condition CHT is about 315 in cruise and never exceeds 400 in climb out. On cross country flights, my fuel burn is just slightly more than my buddy who flies a 277. From my experience so far, I don't believe I would want to trade it for a 447. -------- There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact. Mark Twain Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383552#383552 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 19, 2012
Subject: New video
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>
https://vimeo.com/49812874 Will take you to the video and the password is - owyheeflyer Grace, my neighbors' daughter turned 13 today and it was my pleasure to take her for a ride in my Firestar II. I am not sure which one of us enjoyed it more. She asked to see the Pillars of Rome. She had of course seen them on the ground, but the sight of them from the air elicited a lot of "Whoa's". She is a rancher's daughter after all. :-) The video covers a lot of the same ground that have been in my video's before, but the light was much better today due to the calm weather that we get in the fall here. We were able to schedual our takeoff to a bit later in the morning, that allowed both warmer temps, ( its a bit nipply in the early mornings.) and better light for the camera. The flight was 1 hour and 12 minutes. I believe that you will agree that she was a satisfied customer. Larry -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: New info on 912 Titan exhaust spring
From: "John Bickham" <gearbender(at)bellsouth.net>
Date: Sep 20, 2012
Hello folks, hope everyone well. I need to order a new set of exhaust springs for my Titan exhaust. I left the hangar without the spring and not sure of size. Anybody have that info handy? I can't remember but I think it was 66 mm Rotax spring. Still not sure what a "mm" is! Appreciate the help. -------- Thanks too much, John Bickham Mark III-C w/ 912UL St. Francisville, LA I know many pilots and a few true aviators. There is a distinct difference that I have the greatest respect for. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383657#383657 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: New info on 912 Titan exhaust spring
Date: Sep 20, 2012
I need to order a new set of exhaust springs for my Titan exhaust John Bickham John B/Folks: I bought a set of these JBM SS exhaust springs. Haven't had any problem with them. Expensive, but much more reliable than standard springs. http://jbmindustries.com/ john h mkIII Rock House, OR ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 20, 2012
From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Cuyuna ULII-02 fs 2si 460-F40
I have a ULII-02 on my Ultrastar, and it runs great. I was thinking of swapping it out for a 447 for better performance, but never found the time to make new motor mounts, etc. I just came across a low time 2si 460-F40 for sale locally for a good price, but I hear bad things about 2si vs. original Cuyunas. The Cuyuna 430 was rated 30HP at 5500 rpm per an old Cuyuna brochure I have. Supposedly the ULII-02 is the same HP, but at a higher rpm? I get around 6400 static with a 2:1 redrive and a 50x30 2 blade prop, inflight max rpm is a bit lower. The 2si is supposed to be 40hp at 6500 rpm (there is also a 460-F35 which is rated 35hp at 6000 rpm). The idea of the extra HP is attractive, but at what downside? Any comments? -Dana -- In general, liberalism consists of A & B getting together to see what they can make C do for poor old D. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Cuyuna ULII-02 fs 2si 460-F40
Date: Sep 20, 2012
The Cuyuna 430 was rated 30HP at 5500 rpm per an old Cuyuna brochure I have. Supposedly the ULII-02 is the same HP, but at a higher rpm? -Dana My 1984 ULII02 was 35 HP. john h mkIII Rock House, OR ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 21, 2012
Subject: Re: Cuyuna ULII-02 fs 2si 460-F40
From: David Peters <dpeters160(at)gmail.com>
You look bad ass flying around with the ULII-02 ! :) On Sep 20, 2012 7:51 PM, "Dana Hague" wrote: > > I have a ULII-02 on my Ultrastar, and it runs great. I was thinking of > swapping it out for a 447 for better performance, but never found the time > to make new motor mounts, etc. I just came across a low time 2si 460-F40 > for sale locally for a good price, but I hear bad things about 2si vs. > original Cuyunas. > > The Cuyuna 430 was rated 30HP at 5500 rpm per an old Cuyuna brochure I > have. Supposedly the ULII-02 is the same HP, but at a higher rpm? I get > around 6400 static with a 2:1 redrive and a 50x30 2 blade prop, inflight > max rpm is a bit lower. The 2si is supposed to be 40hp at 6500 rpm (there > is also a 460-F35 which is rated 35hp at 6000 rpm). > > The idea of the extra HP is attractive, but at what downside? Any > comments? > > -Dana > -- > In general, liberalism consists of A & B getting together to see what they > can make C do for poor old D. > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: McCarthy Tom <mccarthy(at)jefnet.com>
Subject: Re: Cuyuna ULII-02 fs 2si 460-F40
Date: Sep 21, 2012
Dana, I have extensive experience with all of the motors you listed. I ran a ul2-02 on my ultrastar for many trouble free hours before selling, and later bought a 2SI for my Firestar, and had nothing but problems. Plainly put, they are two different motors. Without going into too many details, I have on my shelf (1) 2si 460 f-35, and (2) 460 f-40's, all running, but would not put them on anything I own. They are for sale if anyone is interested. I might however like to find a nice UL2-02 to put my gear box on and put on my Firestar some day. It has a better power band than the 377, and feels smoother, and uses slightly less fuel. Feel free to PM me for more info. Tom McCarthy Firestar 441TM Slingshot 863GB Zenith 601HD 541TM ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 21, 2012
Subject: Pizza wheel wanted
From: Mark Shimei <mark.shimei(at)gmail.com>
Anyone got a left over pizza cutter tailwheel? I could use a spare for my ultrastar,not many snowmobile shops in central Florida carry them. Thanks,Mark ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 21, 2012
From: chris davis <capedavis(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Pizza wheel wanted
Try a hockey puck! I was told they work great and dont wear at all, seriously Chris Davis KXP 503 492 hrs Glider Pilot Disabled from crash building Firefly ________________________________ From: Mark Shimei <mark.shimei(at)gmail.com> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 10:32 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Pizza wheel wanted Anyone got a left over pizza cutter tailwheel? I could use a spare for my ultrastar,not many snowmobile shops in central Florida carry them. Thanks,Mark ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 22, 2012
Subject: Re: Pizza wheel wanted
From: David Peters <dpeters160(at)gmail.com>
Mark, I just bought a replacement for my Ultrastar from a place called Dunn and Company; part number 2.00005.565. They were great to deal with. On Sep 21, 2012 7:37 PM, "Mark Shimei" wrote: > Anyone got a left over pizza cutter tailwheel? I could use a spare for my > ultrastar,not many snowmobile shops in central Florida carry them. > Thanks,Mark > > * > > * > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pizza wheel wanted
From: "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com>
Date: Sep 22, 2012
I have one off my Firestar II that I will never use again. Any reasonable offer gets it. -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383779#383779 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Lanny Fetterman" <donaho1(at)verizon.net>
Subject: Pizza wheel wanted (Dunn and Co.)
Date: Sep 22, 2012
Dave, Did the wheel from Dunn and Co. fit without any modifications? Lanny FSII ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: New video
Date: Sep 22, 2012
Lovely video. Your best yet I think. Pat ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 22, 2012
Subject: Re: Pizza wheel wanted (Dunn and Co.)
From: David Peters <dpeters160(at)gmail.com>
Lanny, I don't want to mis-lead you with anything, but the thing has ball bearings, was the same width, and for a 3/8" axle. It will handle, I believe 250 lbs. So yes, it mounted with no modifications. On Sep 22, 2012 9:09 AM, "Lanny Fetterman" wrote: > Dave, Did the wheel from Dunn and Co. fit without any modifications? > Lanny FSII > > * > > * > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: glide ratio
From: "pipercolt" <bob.pipercolt(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Sep 23, 2012
Does anyone know or has anyone seen the glide, or lack of ,ratio on a Mark 111 Classic. Thanks Bob Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383827#383827 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 23, 2012
From: jerb <ulflyer(at)verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Pizza wheel wanted
What about a roller blade wheel - I use that on my Hawk - my Hawk is not a tail wheel version, but roller blade wheels are tough and most have good bearings. How fast would that sucker be spinning at 50 MPH. jerryb At 10:06 PM 9/21/2012, you wrote: >Try a hockey puck! I was told they work great and dont wear at all, seriously > >Chris Davis >KXP 503 492 hrs >Glider Pilot >Disabled from crash building Firefly >From: Mark Shimei <mark.shimei(at)gmail.com> >To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com >Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 10:32 PM >Subject: Kolb-List: Pizza wheel wanted > >Anyone got a left over pizza cutter tailwheel? I could use a spare >for my ultrastar,not many snowmobile shops in central Florida carry them. >Thanks,Mark > > ><http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List ><http://www.matronics.com/contribution>http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pizza wheel wanted
From: "George Alexander" <gtalexander(at)att.net>
Date: Sep 23, 2012
ulflyer(at)verizon.net wrote: > What about a roller blade wheel - I use that on my Hawk - my Hawk is not a tail wheel version, but roller blade wheels are tough and most have good bearings. How fast would that sucker be spinning at 50 MPH. > jerryb > < < > > If'n you can't get the genuine thang from Kolb Aircraft, try the wheels for the little scooters. 5" dia, I think. Friend put one on a MK II. It was even color coordinated with his accent color (blue). Fairly inexpensive and durable. Don't think any mods were necessary. To quote our friend Beauford .... "Worth what you paid for it". -------- George Alexander FS II R503 N709FS http://www.oh2fly.net Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383837#383837 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: rejuvenating NiCad batteries
From: Michael Welch <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com>
Date: Sep 23, 2012
Kolb people, Recently there was a discussion on rejuvenating our older gutless NiCad power tool batteries. Someone suggested a welder, but advised to be very careful. Knowing me, I'd rather not find myself blown into the next county, so I opt not to try the welder method. Besides.....I'm a little low on acetylene, anyway. (that's a joke!) I've got two 18 volt DeWalt drill batteries that are so weak, that even after a full charge, I'm about to drive over them with my tractor (not really)!! Usually at this point, I send them off to have them rebuilt. But, this time, I've put it off until now I'm lucky to get them to work for 10 minutes after being on the charger for a full day. So, after our recent discussion on rejuvenating them, I thought I'd see what an internet search would pull up. I came up with this Youtube video, and am about to go zap them! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1e8hHLyXAyQ&featurea&list=UL1e8hHLyXAyQ I have three 12volt scooter batteries (from a recent project), all charged up and wired in series. In the meantime, I've been draining the life out of the DeWalt 18 volts. Now, I'm finally ready to give this guy's method a try. I'm headed out to my shop to zap them right now. After I've zapped them, and charged them as much as they'll take a charge, I'll report back with the results. Mike (I noticed some difficulty getting the Youtube link to display the video. If you have problems watching it, I'll copy and paste it again, hopefully with better results) ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: glide ratio
Date: Sep 23, 2012
I would estimate it's about 5 or 6 to 1. >> Hi Richard, I think that is being a bit unkind. At 6 to 1 your 1000ft translates to 6000ft over the ground and at (say) 50 mph that would give you about 90 seconds flying time. No doubt in the situation you were in it didn`t seem as long as that and you were ducking and diving round obstacles etc and not flying accurately. I should suggest that flying in a straight line at best speed which is what the glide angle is usually derived from, the glide angle is probably twice your figure. The best speed to fly of course depends on what you want to achieve. Longest flying time or greatest distance covered. They are not the same. Of course if there was a proper L/D graph you could read those figures off with no trouble. Maybe New Kolb has such a thing but don`t bet on it. Pat ________________________________________________________________________________
From: HShack(at)aol.com
Date: Sep 23, 2012
Subject: Re: Pizza wheel wanted
In a message dated 9/23/2012 1:13:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, gtalexander(at)att.net writes: If'n you can't get the genuine thang from Kolb Aircraft, try the wheels for the little scooters. 5" dia, I think. I use one of those on my FS II. It is larger than the pizza cutter in diameter by maybe 1 1/2" and also in width by maybe 1/2". Yes; they come in colors. There are 2 sizes; seems like there is a 100 mm and a 120 mm; I used the larger. They have ball bearings. The axle bore is either 6 mm or 8 mm- can't remember which.. Had to modify the original tailwheel bracket some; a little cutting and welding was involved. I got lucky and bought 6 of them at Walmart for $6, on sale. Shack ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: glide ratio
From: "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com>
Date: Sep 25, 2012
A MkIII with its longer wing probably has a better glide ratio than my Slingshot. After becoming comfortable with any airplane I fly regularly I like to go to altitude over a relatively long runway to test its engine off glide. Doing this with my Slingshot resulted in 1,100 fpm descent at best glide speed of 55 mph. That is 4.4 to 1 glide ratio. Anyone who assumes that the idle power glide is a good simulation of power off glide will be in for a rude awakening when the prop stops. At idle power, my descent rate at 55 mph is about 700-800 fpm vs 1,100 fpm with prop stopped. -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY (9G0) Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Diamond Katana DA20-A1 Rotax 912 F3 Don't worry about old age... it doesn't last very long. - Anonymous Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383962#383962 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: glide ratio
Date: Sep 26, 2012
That is 4.4 to 1 glide ratio>> Wow! That stopped prop is a very effective brake. The only plane I have seen with a worse glide angle was a Dagling. This was a British copy of a German Zogling and consisted of a single beam with a seat bolted on one end and a tail on the t`other. There was a slabshaped high lift wing on a pylon , to which the pilot was strapped.. It was designed for Primary gliding training, learning to balance the plane in a wind and Oh Joy finally to get a couple of feet in the air, if you were lucky, in a downhill slide or a short bungee hop. My gliding club bought a Dagling in a fit of stupidity (I still have 5 invested in it where ever it is ) and our Chief gliding Instructor decided to fly it up the normal wire launch. It was the only glider which I have ever seen launched which beat the parachute on the end of the launch cable back to the ground..It was never flown again. Pat ________________________________________________________________________________
From: K I <wrk2win4u(at)msn.com>
Subject: Re: Pizza wheel wanted
Date: Sep 26, 2012
I'm not sure if you are still looking for a "pizza wheel". I have one on my Kolb Firestar II. It has some parts left that are not bent or broken. Send me an email if you need parts. wrk2win4u(at)msn.com Kurt From: HShack(at)aol.com Date: Sun=2C 23 Sep 2012 15:03:42 -0400 Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Pizza wheel wanted In a message dated 9/23/2012 1:13:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time=2C gtalexander(at)att.net writes: If'n you can't get the genuine thang from Kolb Aircraft=2C try the wheels for the little scooters. 5" dia=2C I think. I use one of those on my FS II. It is larger than the pizza cutter in diameter by maybe 1 1/2" and also in width by maybe 1/2". Yes=3B they come in colors. There are 2 sizes=3B seems like there is a 100 mm and a 120 mm=3B I used th e larger. They have ball bearings. The axle bore is either 6 mm or 8 mm- can't remember which.. Had to modify the original tailwheel bracket some=3B a little cutting and welding was involved. I got lucky and bought 6 of them at Walmart for $6=2C on sale. Shack ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: glide ratio
From: "EricS" <eric_savener(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Sep 26, 2012
Thom Riddle wrote: > A MkIII with its longer wing probably has a better glide ratio than my Slingshot. > > After becoming comfortable with any airplane I fly regularly I like to go to altitude over a relatively long runway to test its engine off glide. Doing this with my Slingshot resulted in 1,100 fpm descent at best glide speed of 55 mph. That is 4.4 to 1 glide ratio. Anyone who assumes that the idle power glide is a good simulation of power off glide will be in for a rude awakening when the prop stops. At idle power, my descent rate at 55 mph is about 700-800 fpm vs 1,100 fpm with prop stopped. My numbers are exactly the same in my Firestar II gliding from 7,000 ft. down to 6,000 ft. If it happens unexpectedly I plan to get the nose down, land straight ahead or nearly so and sacrifice the plane. Especially since I love to fly low. Sometimes I have to climb to cross power lines! Eric Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384032#384032 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Seat frame brace
From: "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com>
Date: Sep 27, 2012
A very light thin walled piece of tubing solved the Firestar II weak frame issue. -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384072#384072 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/frame_2_210.jpg ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Seat frame brace
From: "209GS" <guebbing(at)aol.com>
Date: Sep 27, 2012
What issue is that? -------- Gerry Uebbing Firestar II 503 b-box (not flying yet) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384104#384104 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Seat frame brace
From: "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com>
Date: Sep 27, 2012
Gerry, Hands down..... the Kolb Firestar is probably the most fun aviation experience you will most likely ever have. [ But the little Kolb is a bit frail in places.] But nothing that can't be resolved if you are resource full. I flew nearly two hours today and shared a heavy thermal with a bunch of rising corn leaves and a couple migrating hawks within fifty feet of me . My little Firstar II moaned and groaned a bit but the seat back brace never bent a bit this time. And Remember....... :) -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384105#384105 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/cloud_cover_918.jpg ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 27, 2012
From: Malcolm Brubaker <brubakermal(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: oil usage??
My new plane has oil injection and i have never used oil injection befor so im getting used to topping it off. it looks like my last 2 nites flying four short flights 4 landings and take offs with taxing and such I burned 9 gallons gas in 2.2 hrs and used 12 oz of semi synthetic oil. Is this a safe amount? of oil for that many gallons of fuel over that time on the tiny tac? mal Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker Michigan Sport Pilot Repair http://michigansportpilotrepair.com/ LSRM-A, PPC, WS Great Sails - Sailmaker for Ultralight & Light Sport (989)513-3022 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 27, 2012
From: Herb Gayheart <herbgh(at)nctc.com>
Subject: Re: oil usage??
Mac Oil injection runs proportionately to the throttle opening...Good thing...lean of oil at low speeds and likely 50 to 1 at elevated rpms.. notice the lever on the oil pump... it has a linear function... Herb At 08:00 PM 9/27/2012, you wrote: >My new plane has oil injection and i have never used oil injection >befor so im getting used to topping it off. it looks like my last 2 >nites flying four short flights 4 landings and take offs with taxing >and such I burned 9 gallons gas in 2.2 hrs and used 12 oz of semi >synthetic oil. >Is this a safe amount? of oil for that many gallons of fuel over >that time on the tiny tac? >mal > >Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker >Michigan Sport Pilot Repair ><http://michigansportpilotrepair.com/>http://michigansportpilotrepair.com/ >LSRM-A, PPC, WS >Great Sails - Sailmaker >for Ultralight & Light Sport >(989)513-3022 > > ><http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List ><http://www.matronics.com/contribution>http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 27, 2012
Subject: New Blog entry
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>
I flew yesterday morning to the Jordan Craters Lava Flow. I had flown there before we moved here and wanted to get some videos of the area. It is an area of very nasty places to not go down in, and while my engine and plane did not let me down, it has been a trial getting it so that you could see it. I am not sure if it will run all the way through or not. Please be kind enough to tell me if it does not. http://highdesertflier.blogspot.com/ The password is owyheeflyer Larry -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "pcking" <pc.king(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: oil usage??
Date: Sep 27, 2012
Doesn't that come out to 96:1? Is that right? ----- Original Message ----- From: Herb Gayheart To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 9:08 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: oil usage?? Mac Oil injection runs proportionately to the throttle opening...Good thing...lean of oil at low speeds and likely 50 to 1 at elevated rpms.. notice the lever on the oil pump... it has a linear function... Herb At 08:00 PM 9/27/2012, you wrote: My new plane has oil injection and i have never used oil injection befor so im getting used to topping it off. it looks like my last 2 nites flying four short flights 4 landings and take offs with taxing and such I burned 9 gallons gas in 2.2 hrs and used 12 oz of semi synthetic oil. Is this a safe amount? of oil for that many gallons of fuel over that time on the tiny tac? mal Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker Michigan Sport Pilot Repair http://michigansportpilotrepair.com/ LSRM-A, PPC, WS Great Sails - Sailmaker for Ultralight & Light Sport (989)513-3022 Email Forum - http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - http://forums.matronics.com - List Contribution Web Site - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Lanny Fetterman" <donaho1(at)verizon.net>
Subject: Re: oil usage??
Date: Sep 27, 2012
That`s the ratio I got, when I did the math. (96/1) Seems a little lean on oil to me. I took my oil injector off my 503, so I could install an electric starter. I premix 50/1, so I`m not sure if an average of 96/1 is good or not. As Herb said the amount of oil injected varies with RPM. Still that might not be enough oil. In order to average 96/1 it has to be running at an even higher ratio at some throttle settings. That would make me nervous. Lanny FSII From: pcking Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 9:22 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: oil usage?? Doesn't that come out to 96:1? Is that right? ----- Original Message ----- From: Herb Gayheart To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 9:08 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: oil usage?? Mac Oil injection runs proportionately to the throttle opening...Good thing...lean of oil at low speeds and likely 50 to 1 at elevated rpms.. notice the lever on the oil pump... it has a linear function... Herb At 08:00 PM 9/27/2012, you wrote: My new plane has oil injection and i have never used oil injection befor so im getting used to topping it off. it looks like my last 2 nites flying four short flights 4 landings and take offs with taxing and such I burned 9 gallons gas in 2.2 hrs and used 12 oz of semi synthetic oil. Is this a safe amount? of oil for that many gallons of fuel over that time on the tiny tac? mal Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker Michigan Sport Pilot Repair http://michigansportpilotrepair.com/ LSRM-A, PPC, WS Great Sails - Sailmaker for Ultralight & Light Sport (989)513-3022 Email Forum - http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - http://forums.matronics.com - List Contribution Web Site - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?Kolb-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 27, 2012
From: Herb Gayheart <herbgh(at)nctc.com>
Subject: Re: oil usage??
The link talks about over 100 to 1....Herb At 08:44 PM 9/27/2012, you wrote: >That`s the ratio I got, when I did the math. (96/1) Seems a little >lean on oil to me. I took my oil injector off my 503, so I could >install an electric starter. I premix 50/1, so I`m not sure if an >average of 96/1 is good or not. As Herb said the amount of oil >injected varies with RPM. Still that might not be enough oil. In >order to average 96/1 it has to be running at an even higher ratio >at some throttle settings. That would make me nervous. Lanny FSII > >From: <mailto:pc.king(at)comcast.net>pcking >Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 9:22 PM >To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com >Subject: Re: Kolb-List: oil usage?? > > >Doesn't that come out to 96:1? > >Is that right? > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <mailto:herbgh(at)nctc.com>Herb Gayheart >To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com >Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 9:08 PM >Subject: Re: Kolb-List: oil usage?? > >Mac > > Oil injection runs proportionately to the throttle > opening...Good thing...lean of oil at low speeds and likely 50 to 1 > at elevated rpms.. notice the lever on the oil pump... it has a > linear function... Herb > > >At 08:00 PM 9/27/2012, you wrote: >>My new plane has oil injection and i have never used oil injection >>befor so im getting used to topping it off. it looks like my last 2 >>nites flying four short flights 4 landings and take offs with >>taxing and such I burned 9 gallons gas in 2.2 hrs and used 12 oz of >>semi synthetic oil. >>Is this a safe amount? of oil for that many gallons of fuel over >>that time on the tiny tac? >>mal >> >>Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker >>Michigan Sport Pilot Repair >><http://michigansportpilotrepair.com/>http://michigansportpilotrepair.com/ >>LSRM-A, PPC, WS >>Great Sails - Sailmaker >>for Ultralight & Light Sport >>(989)513-3022 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Email Forum - >> >> >>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List >> >>- MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - >> >><http://forums.matronics.com>http://forums.matronics.com >> >>- List Contribution Web Site - >> >>-Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> >> >>http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> > > >href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List > >href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > >href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > >href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List >href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "b young" <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: oil usage??
Date: Sep 27, 2012
I guess I don=99t understand =9Chigher ratio at some throttle settings=9D seems that the oil injector has an actuator that is linked to/with the throttle....when you are at idle, there is only a small amount of oil being injected,,,, when you are at WOT the oil injector is pumping more oil,,, but the ratio of oil to gas should be constant. more throttle =more gas and more oil less throttle=less gas and less oil....but both should be a constant mix..... the only experience I have had with oil injection was with a snowmobile.... when the injector failed for the second time,,,,, I removed it and went to pre mix. boyd young mkiii >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That`s the ratio I got, when I did the math. (96/1) Seems a little lean on oil to me. I took my oil injector off my 503, so I could install an electric starter. I premix 50/1, so I`m not sure if an average of 96/1 is good or not. As Herb said the amount of oil injected varies with RPM. Still that might not be enough oil. In order to average 96/1 it has to be running at an even higher ratio at some throttle settings. That would make me nervous. Lanny FSII ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: Seat frame brace
Date: Sep 28, 2012
shared a heavy thermal with a bunch of rising corn leaves >> Engine OFF, throttled back, cruise revs? Pat ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: oil usage??
From: Gary Aman <zeprep251(at)aol.com>
Date: Sep 28, 2012
My flying friends refuse to trust oil injection from 503's to 582's.I was t he only one in the group to stick with it from new purchase to sale of the FS2. I flew over 750 hrs with absolutely NO problems,checking the rings for free movement every 150 hrs,checking the bore and skirts for issues as wel l.At 450 hrs I pulled the heads and cylinders to de-carbon the top ring lan ds which showed carbon instead of oil when pushing on the ring through the exhaust port with a popcicle stick during inspection.I even used 100LL for the first 100 hrs or so because it was so handy at the airport.New plugs e very 25 hrs.I loved that engine and I could find no fault with the factory engineers at Rotax who designed the injection system.Used Pennsoil for airc ooled from the start. G.Aman FS2 503 DCDI 750hrs MK3 Jabiru 2200A 760 hrs ----Original Message----- From: b young <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com> Sent: Thu, Sep 27, 2012 11:57 pm Subject: Re: Kolb-List: oil usage?? I guess I don=99t understand =9Chigher ratio at some throttle settings=9D seems that the oil injector has an actuator that is l inked to/with the throttle....when you are at idle, there is only a small a mount of oil being injected,,,, when you are at WOT the oil injector is pumping more oil,,, but the ratio of oil to gas should be constant. mor e throttle =more gas and more oil less throttle=less gas and less oi l....but both should be a constant mix..... the only experience I have ha d with oil injection was with a snowmobile.... when the injector failed fo r the second time,,,,, I removed it and went to pre mix. boyd young mkiii >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That`s the ratio I got, when I did the math. (96/1) Seems a little lean on oil to me. I took my oil injector off my 503, so I could install an electri c starter. I premix 50/1, so I`m not sure if an average of 96/1 is good or not. As Herb said the amount of oil injected varies with RPM. Still that mi ght not be enough oil. In order to average 96/1 it has to be running at an even higher ratio at some throttle settings. That would make me nervous. L anny FSII ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Kolb Mark III Classic for Sale
From: "zeus627" <brad(at)mykcwireless.com>
Date: Sep 28, 2012
My Mark III Classic is still for sale. I've reduced the price on it and hoping to sell it before winter. It's a super nice plane at a very reasonable price. I have more pictures available. My ad from Barnstormers.com is below. I would be happy to answer any questions. KOLB MARK III CLASSIC $12,900 2003 Kolb Mark III Classic for sale. Registered E-LSA, N-numbered. 78 hrs. TT airframe & eng. Rotax 618 eng., 75 hp. Kiev 3-blade comp. prop. VFR panel w/ airspd., alt., EGT, hobbs, compass, temp. Lowrance GPS, Vertex 220 radio. ELT, strobe/nav lights. Dual controls, hyd. heel brakes. Enclosed w/rear cargo area. Pilot 2-pl. int., 2 Flightcomm headsets. Folding wings. Trailerable. Nice covering and paint. 10-gal. fuel. Construction plans and manuals inc. Extra parts. Great LSA plane. Flown regularly. $12,900. Contact Brad Zearfoss, Owner - Plane is located at Somerset County Airport (2G9) PA USA Telephone: 814-442-4368 or email: brad(at)mykcwireless.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384139#384139 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0890_150.jpg ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 28, 2012
Subject: Re: New Blog entry
From: Martin Koxxy <martinkoxxy(at)gmail.com>
Beautiful, Larry! Video worked well, excellent quality. And the soundtrack made it even more enjoyable. Inhospitable terrain, alright. Do you fly with a ballistic chute? How many seconds would you have had to pull the trigger? Martin Beaverton, OR On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 6:15 PM, Larry Cottrell wrote: > I flew yesterday morning to the Jordan Craters Lava Flow. I had flown > there before we moved here and wanted to get some videos of the area. It is > an area of very nasty places to not go down in, and while my engine and > plane did not let me down, it has been a trial getting it so that you could > see it. I am not sure if it will run all the way through or not. Please be > kind enough to tell me if it does not. > > http://highdesertflier.blogspot.com/ > > The password is owyheeflyer > > Larry > > -- > *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email > address before sending.* > > * > > * > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 28, 2012
Subject: Re: kolbster ages
From: Robert Laird <rlaird(at)cavediver.com>
When I re-posted the "Kolbster Ages" chart about 10 days ago, it apparently prompted a lot of people to fill out the form... And perhaps some filled it out the first time, too! Oh well. It's far from scientific, but I just thought it would be interesting. So, tallying up the new information, here is what it looks like now: [image: Inline image 1] If you're more a numbers person than visual, here's the breakdown: [image: Inline image 2] I think that there is whatcha call a bell curve. Glad to know us Kolbsters conform so well! ;-) -- Robert ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "George Bearden" <gab16(at)sbcglobal.net>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 09/27/12
Date: Sep 29, 2012
> That`s the ratio I got, when I did the math. (96/1) Based on my 2-stroke motorcycle experience of years ago, this sounds right to me. I found that properly working oil injection saved a tremendous amount of oil. It went so much farther that it became almost a non-issue. GeoB ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: glide ratio
From: "wakataka" <wakataka(at)charter.net>
Date: Sep 29, 2012
I measured the glide ratio of my original Firestar at this morning by shutting down the engine at 400 feet agl on final and measuring the distance to touchdown on Google Earth. I traveled 2500 feet with a 400 feet drop. It's just slightly better than 6 to1. Airspeed was about 40 mph, which is seems to be close to best L/D from what I can tell. The airplane was near max gross weight (550#). It has a center section cover and streamlined lift stuts, which helps improve the glide somewhat. Still, I wouldn't recommend a Kolb for a soaring contest. -------- There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact. Mark Twain Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384263#384263 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: glide ratio
From: "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com>
Date: Sep 29, 2012
Waktaka, Curious about your technique, so I have a couple questions and comments. Did you stop the engine when you were flying at 40 mph or at a higher speed? If it was at a higher speed then your glide ratio was actually less than what you calculated because reducing the airspeed to 40 from whatever faster speed reduced your sink rate during that speed reduction. Also, once in ground effect, the glide ratio improves. This is why to get more accurate numbers one should start the engine off glide at the presumed best glide speed and time the loss of altitude while well above ground effect. Just my 2 cents. -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY (9G0) Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Diamond Katana DA20-A1 Rotax 912 F3 Don't worry about old age... it doesn't last very long. - Anonymous Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384268#384268 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: glide ratio
From: "Jimmy Young" <jdy100(at)comcast.net>
Date: Sep 30, 2012
Kolbers, I guess this information on glide ratios makes for good chat-room fodder, but it will do you no good when that prop quits. You aren't going to remember any of it, nor will you have time to calculate it even if you did. You will hopefully end up picking the best looking place to land that you instinctively know you can make, and fly the the plane there. That's what this discussion is really about. In the two engine outs I had with my old Firestar, I can guarantee you I had no idea what my glide slope was or how it would play into the situation in front of me. I picked a clearing I knew I could make and flew the Kolb to it. One of the best tips I ever read about flying Kolbs was getting used to staying higher on approach and landing with no power most of the time. By doing that regularly when the day comes that you lose power, because of all that practice it's just another landing though with an added rush of adrenalin, a tight sphincter, & unknown runway conditions. Jimmy Young former owner of N7043P Kolb Firestar, but lucky enough to still get to fly it. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384303#384303 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 30, 2012
From: Pete Zaitcev <zaitcev(at)kotori.zaitcev.us>
Subject: Re: glide ratio
"Jimmy Young" wrote: > I guess this information on glide ratios makes for good chat-room fodder, > but it will do you no good when that prop quits. You aren't going to > remember any of it, nor will you have time to calculate it even if you did. I would not be so sure for members with extensive instrument rules experience. They breath such calculations and usually develop rules of thumb that allow to estimate ratios quickly. -- Pete ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: glide ratio
From: "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com>
Date: Sep 30, 2012
Jimmy, You are correct, of course, but the whole reason for my post was to let those who have never done a prop-stopped glide they should not count on their idle-power glide to be a good indicator of how far they might be able to glide. Without actual prop-stopped glide experience, you cannot "know" how far you can glide. Once you've had some prop-stopped glide experience, you know to look for a landing place very close to right below you unless you have a lot more AGL altitude than most Kolbers fly at. The purpose of the numbers was to disabuse those who think they can glide a Kolb forward 700-900 feet for every 100 feet of AGL altitude. It is not going to happen unless you luck into an updraft. I am now flying a Diamond Katana with long low aspect ratio wings which the factory claims has a 14 to 1 best glide ratio. I don't believe it but have not yet made the opportunity to test it. I will soon and if I get a 10 to 1 best glide ratio with prop stopped, I'll be pleasantly surprised. -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY (9G0) Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Diamond Katana DA20-A1 Rotax 912 F3 Don't worry about old age... it doesn't last very long. - Anonymous Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384308#384308 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 30, 2012
From: TheWanderingWench <thewanderingwench(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: glide ratio
Jimmy - =0A=0AWhile you are probably right about glide ratios not doing you much good when the engine quits - I would argue that this discussion is de finitely more than "good chat-room fodder".=0AFor me, the whole point is to know what my true glide ratio is with an engine out - so that as I fly I c an be looking for realistically attainable landing spots should my engine d ie. (And I've had this happen a few times.) Knowing how far I can glide alt ers how and where I fly: my altitude and my route. So I think this is a pre tty critical subject.=0A=0AArty Trost=0ASandy, Oregon=0A=0A-=0Awww.Lesson sFromTheEdge.com/uladventure2009.htm=0A=0A=0A"Life's a daring adventure or nothing"=0AHelen Keller=0A=0A=0A"I refuse to tip toe through life just to a rrive safely at death."=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: J immy Young =0ATo: kolb-list(at)matronics.com =0ASent: Sund ay, September 30, 2012 4:28 AM=0ASubject: Kolb-List: Re: glide ratio=0A =0A lbers, =0AI guess this information on glide ratios makes for good chat-room fodder, but it will do you no good when that prop quits. You aren't going to remember any of it, nor will you have time to calculate it even if you d id. You will hopefully end up picking the best looking place to land that y ou instinctively know you can make, and fly the the plane there. That's wha t this discussion is really about. =0AIn the two engine outs I had with my old Firestar, I can guarantee you I had no idea what my glide slope was or how it would play into the situation in front of me. I picked a clearing I knew I could make and flew the Kolb to it. One of the best tips I ever read about flying Kolbs was getting used to staying higher on approach and land ing with no power most of the time. By doing that regularly when the day co mes that you lose power, because of all that practice it's just another lan ding though with an added rush of adrenalin, a tight sphincter, & unknown r unway conditions.=0A=0AJimmy Young=0Aformer owner of N7043P Kolb Firestar, but lucky enough to still get to fly it.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic onli ne here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384303#384303 =========================0A ====================== ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: oil usage??
From: "tombaisley" <tombaisley(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Sep 30, 2012
there is a repairman on barnstormers recommending a 40:1 mix for liquid cooled rotax engines? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384329#384329 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: glide ratio
From: "wakataka" <wakataka(at)charter.net>
Date: Sep 30, 2012
I agree that knowing the numerical value of your glide ratio is not going to do you a lot of good when the engine quits. The best way to get a feel for the glide ratio and handling qualities of your craft is to practice engine off landings. It gives you the mental picture of how far you can glide, and it also gives you practice landing without power. I encourage anyone flying with 2-stroke or any non-certificated aircraft engine to occasionally kill the engine on base or final, once you know you've got the runway in range. Get some practice flying your airplane as a glider before you have an engine out. Practice side slips and S-turns to lose altitude experiment to find your best L/D speed. The experience you gain will make you a safer pilot and the confidence that you can land safely if the engine quits will make flying more fun. Plus it's really nice and peaceful up there without the noise and vibration. -------- There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact. Mark Twain Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384336#384336 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: glide ratio
From: "Jimmy Young" <jdy100(at)comcast.net>
Date: Sep 30, 2012
To Arty, Thom,and all other Kolb lovers, I need to apologize for my"chat-room fodder" comment. It was out of place and inaccurate relative to the discussion taking place. I was still waiting on the coffee to brew, & I can get a little short under those conditions. I'm simply more of a "feel" flyer when it comes to awareness of the situation at hand. I know what altitude I'm at, what my airspeed is, how the engine temps are doing, and how much fuel I've got on board at any point of any flight. But when it comes to making mental notes of where I can put down in an emergency, I always have an off-field option spot picked out as we all should. I could not accurately tell you how far away it is from me in feet, but I know instinctively I can make it without knowing what my glide slope is or running calculations in my head. I haven't been flying long, a little over 5 years now & 95% of that was in the Firestar. I made some stupid choices early on that by the grace of God I got away with it, but learned from the events enough to not do it again. I have zero GA experience short of flying in a Cessna 140 & 150 occasionally, so I can see why I discount glide slope numbers. Let's just all agree that flying safe & smart is the way to fly a long time, and we should do it in the way that works best for each of us. Safe flying, Jimmy Young still a lucky guy who gets to fly a Kolb, just not the owner anymore. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384338#384338 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 30, 2012
Subject: Re: glide ratio
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>
Jimmy, I had forgotten what a nice guy, and how polite you are. :-) When a subject comes up again and again with no resolution, it qualifies for CRF . For instance the question of whether a spinning prop slows you more than a stopped prop is still a question. Your email prompted John and I to contemplate that same premise today. He thinks that a spinning prop slows more than no power at all. I of course disagree. I can't get him to fly my plane and try it, and of course he won't believe it until he does try it himself. If I do it he will deep down think that I didn't do it right :-) I have had two engine outs, and done a few of them on a voluntary basis. (Safe conditions, and I knew it, so the stress levels were greatly reduced.) I know that the last one that Arty had, caused the same result that occurred to me on my last one. While you may think at the time that you have every thing under control, in truth if the terrain is hostile, you couldn't pour P out of a boot with the instructions on the heel. The little person inside your brain flips a switch and you go to auto pilot. When you are on the ground, assuming you survive, you will find quite a few things that you could have done better. Invariably when your engine decides to quit it will be in the worst place possible, or a ratio resembling, whether your bread falls butter side down or not. Practice definitely helps and is much better than not at all, however I bet there are a few who think that doing it at idle power will give the same results as doing it with no power. I agree that this subject is very important, I just disagree that anyone will do it any other way than the hard one. Larry On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 6:03 PM, Jimmy Young wrote: > > To Arty, Thom,and all other Kolb lovers, > > I need to apologize for my"chat-room fodder" comment. It was out of place > and inaccurate relative to the discussion taking place. I was still waiting > on the coffee to brew, & I can get a little short under those conditions. > > I'm simply more of a "feel" flyer when it comes to awareness of the > situation at hand. I know what altitude I'm at, what my airspeed is, how > the engine temps are doing, and how much fuel I've got on board at any > point of any flight. But when it comes to making mental notes of where I > can put down in an emergency, I always have an off-field option spot picked > out as we all should. I could not accurately tell you how far away it is > from me in feet, but I know instinctively I can make it without knowing > what my glide slope is or running calculations in my head. > > I haven't been flying long, a little over 5 years now & 95% of that was in > the Firestar. I made some stupid choices early on that by the grace of God > I got away with it, but learned from the events enough to not do it again. > I have zero GA experience short of flying in a Cessna 140 & 150 > occasionally, so I can see why I discount glide slope numbers. Let's just > all agree that flying safe & smart is the way to fly a long time, and we > should do it in the way that works best for each of us. > > Safe flying, > > Jimmy Young > still a lucky guy who gets to fly a Kolb, just not the owner anymore. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384338#384338 > > -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "George Bearden" <gab16(at)sbcglobal.net>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List Digest: 8 Msgs - 09/30/12
Date: Oct 01, 2012
> whether a spinning prop slows you more than a stopped prop I think a wind-milling prop (I doubt we are worried about this here) is worse than a stopped prop, and a prop at idle is better. GeoB ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pizza wheel wanted
From: "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com>
Date: Oct 01, 2012
The Infamous Pizza Wheel, up close & personal. Mine is still available. -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384357#384357 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Ted Cowan" <tc1917(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: glide path
Date: Oct 01, 2012
I tend to agree with Mr. Hauck on glide path. I have been in emergency landings six times with broken props, plugs gone bad, totally seized engine, holes in pistons, etc. I will tell all of you that with any of the landings on the five different types of craft I was flying at the time, you have no time nor inclination to determine an actual glide path ratio. You are concerned with where you can go and what type of LZ it will be. Most of my planes were pretty good at gliding. My Slingshot is not. It is the worse glider in the world second only to a rock. When it happens, and most will have it happen, get your nose down and concentrate first on flying the plane. Keep your airspeed up. Once you get control over your 'glide' you can pick your LZ. I always practiced where I can go from various heights and speeds. ALWAYS consider once you enter the final stage, twenty feet or so you will need a little extra speed for control on sitting down.. The slingshot is different with its weight and short wings. I only did it once but it was perfect. Nose down, get best control speed to make the LZ and concentrate on your rotation and flare. Full flapperons and about sixty mph made it great. Had to land almost under myself. I found that there is a spot on your rpms that will produce almost a dead stick with the prop not dragging and not pushing either. It is just above the idle range. If you practice it, you can feel it. If and when you go dead stick, if you are thinking about what is happening, you can feel actually gaining speed when you push the nose down. You can sense it. Use that same feeling and feather your engine down to just above idle and it is pretty much the same. I hope I helped the newbee that has never had the privilege of dead stick landings. It is only scary if you have never done it. Dont fret, worry or panic until after you stop rolling! p.s. dead sticks in a firestar are non-events. Ted Cowan Slingshot, 912UL zoom zoom On another note. I have always pretty much cruised at around 80 to 85 mph @4800 rpms with my 912. I wanted to fly faster so I kicked it up to 5000/5200 rpm and around 95 mph or so. I was surprised to find it ran smoother at that rpm than slower. I now believe what they are saying about the engine being designed and balanced for that speed. I have not checked my gas burn rate but I am sure it is worse than the 3 gals an hour I get at 85 mph. Am I correct in my beliefs that 5200 rpm is a better cruise speed than 4700/4800 rpm? Let me know. Ted ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 01, 2012
From: gliderx5(at)comcast.net
Subject: Fly-in in PA this weekend
For those in the area please come join us this weekend for a fun relaxing time in beautiful central PA. This is the 10th annual Fall Fly-in/ Camp-in at the Centre Airpark (N16) in Centre Hall, PA. Free camping Friday and Saturday nights. Saturday breakfast, hay ride to nearby farm for lunch, pot luck dinner, campfire, movies, and more. Sunday fly out to Lock Haven for their breakfast. More scrapbook photos and details at www.eaa1327.org or just give me a call. Malcolm Morrison (814) 769-1941 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: glide path
From: Brad Nation <nationcap(at)comcast.net>
Date: Oct 01, 2012
My *Dad always said there are only three things you need to be concerned with when flying, Aviate, Navigate, and Communicate, in that order. *20 years flying with the Air Force, B-25s in Korea, 3 tours in Viet Nam flying B-57s so I'm pretty sure he knew something about flying. Brad ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 02, 2012
Subject: Re: glide ratio
From: Rick Neilsen <neilsenrm(at)gmail.com>
Hi all. I couldn't resist my $.02 worth. I had a plan for a engine out so that when it happened I just fell into the plan. My theory was that unpowered flight in my MKIIIC with flaps raised would be just like one notch of flaps with just a touch of power. It turned out that it was very close. My normal approach for landing is one notch of flaps and maybe 5-10% power. The nice thing is that when the unexpected happens you don't have to dig out the calculator or anything else. Your glide ratio will be about the same as you practice with every landing. To fine tune your landing spot grab your flaps and lower them as necessary to hit the best landing spot. It might be good to practice dropping and raising flaps on approach. Just remember add flaps, drop the nose, reduce flaps, raise the nose. Do this a few times while keeping your airspeed the same. When you get all set up for touch down raise the flaps. Your round out will again be the same as you have always done with few exceptions. With flaps up you will be able to get the tail wheel down first. This worked out real well for me because I was landing in a bean field and the tail wheel acted like a aircraft carrier tail hook. I rolled about 5 foot without even a nose over. This may not work as well for everyone but it did for me. Also worth what you paid for it Rick Neilsen Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 8:03 PM, Jimmy Young wrote: > > To Arty, Thom,and all other Kolb lovers, > > I need to apologize for my"chat-room fodder" comment. It was out of place > and inaccurate relative to the discussion taking place. I was still waiting > on the coffee to brew, & I can get a little short under those conditions. > > I'm simply more of a "feel" flyer when it comes to awareness of the > situation at hand. I know what altitude I'm at, what my airspeed is, how > the engine temps are doing, and how much fuel I've got on board at any > point of any flight. But when it comes to making mental notes of where I > can put down in an emergency, I always have an off-field option spot picked > out as we all should. I could not accurately tell you how far away it is > from me in feet, but I know instinctively I can make it without knowing > what my glide slope is or running calculations in my head. > > I haven't been flying long, a little over 5 years now & 95% of that was in > the Firestar. I made some stupid choices early on that by the grace of God > I got away with it, but learned from the events enough to not do it again. > I have zero GA experience short of flying in a Cessna 140 & 150 > occasionally, so I can see why I discount glide slope numbers. Let's just > all agree that flying safe & smart is the way to fly a long time, and we > should do it in the way that works best for each of us. > > Safe flying, > > Jimmy Young > still a lucky guy who gets to fly a Kolb, just not the owner anymore. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384338#384338 > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 02, 2012
Subject: Dead stick compared to engine at idle
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>
Yesterday afternoon turned out to be stable enough that I could actually put to the test the idea of which gives you a longer glide, engine on or off. The test was performed at 4000 feet, temp was low 80's, wind was varible, but generally almost nothing. My test consisted of either cutting the engine or power at the same "Rock Jack" at 4400 feet altitude. That gave me about 3000 feet of runway in front of me. My first test was engine off. I established the 4400 ft altitude and cut the mags at the Rock Jack, established 50 MPH descent. I found that the end of the runway was about where I was going to end up. I did make sure that I put it on the ground before the fence. The glide ratio worked out to be 7.5 to 1 I took it back up again and repeated the same test, only I just throttled back to 2000 RPM's again established 50 MPH descent. When I reached the end of the runway, I was still about 75 feet high. That glide ratio is for all intents and purposes was 8 to 1 . I then repeated the test at 4200 ft altitude. Engine on produced at least 50 feet further. Now it is a given that no two Kolbs fly alike, especially different models. The difference in altitude will also play into the equation. However this is what works for me and mine. Yours may vary, but I am happy and vindicated. :-). Larry -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 02, 2012
Subject: Glide ratio
From: Mark Shimei <mark.shimei(at)gmail.com>
Well...I had to try it again.actually,for the 38th time.... Ultrastar,Cuyuna,3 blade ultraprop. 2000',plane was set up to glide engine off at 2100' and clock started as I passed 2000'. 5 minutes,30 seconds later I touched down,didnt hit any thermals that I could feel. The gps odometer showed 3.1 miles,about 16000'.....that makes 8 to 1 glide. I wouldnt use that for any emergency,only the amount of time I have after the fire goes out,making the altimeter a time to impact device. My glide speed is 35mph,and with the 12mph headwind that day,I wouldnt go very far foward. Depending on the rpm, the windmilling prop can cut that time by a third. If there are those who dont think a windmilling prop slows a plane,then how does a gyrocopter fly? Stop the blade,see how fast it goes.....down. If your idle speed=pitch speed at your glide ratio,then the spinning prop will not make much difference. The US isnt a good glider(I have thermalled it at idle for 15 minutes),So my glide or thermal speed must have been a little slower than the pitch speed. The Firefly as bad or worse than a brick when the throttle is below 3000rpm. Falls from the sky. I have an r/c plane which is like the the kolb in flying characteristics, at lower rpms you can spot land it,unless I flare too high. then its re-bend the landing gear back again. Mark ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 02, 2012
From: David Kulp <undoctor(at)ptd.net>
Subject: Glide ratio
Kolbers, In all this discussion about glide ratios and trying to figure if you can make it to an emergency landing site, there's a technique I was taught and had to use shortly after I bought my US in about '92 when I was brand new at flying. I was flying merrily about when suddenly the Cuyuna shut down. I could hear the engine turning and thought maybe the throttle cable disconnected and the engine was idling, so the first thing i did was to move the throttle on and off. Doing so I could hear the carb opening and closing - you know, that pulsing, sucking sound you hear on your hot rod when you punch the throttle with the air cleaner off - but no power. Knowing the engine was off, the next thing I did was look for a site to land. Spotted the sports fields at Pennfield Middle School and turned toward it. I didn't know how far away it was (about 2.5 miles), or how high I was (no altimeter), but I knew I could make it there without doing a single calculation. When you fly, anything that passes under the nose of your aircraft you will fly beyond, and any point that remains above the nose of your aircraft you will land before. Again, I was just a couple of months into flying, but I simply lowered the nose so that the sports fields stayed at the point neither above nor below the nose, and my speed was simply a result of the angle of descent necessary to reach the ground at the point I was aiming for. I'm sure most of you realize this, so isn't this the best way to know if you can make it to an emergency site or not? Doesn't matter about density altitude, head wind, tail wind, whatever, it'll get you there. If I'd had the opportunity to practice dead sticks I'd probably would have been able to pitch up a bit, fly more slowly and make it another mile or so to the strip where I hangared the US, but another thing I was taught as a newbie was when you pick your spot, don't change your mind unless you see a big reason to do so, such as a fence, etc. So at that chapter in my flying my only concern was trying to land safely - period. Comments? Dave Kulp Bethlehem, PA FireFly 11DMK On 10/2/2012 9:34 PM, Mark Shimei wrote: > Well...I had to try it again.actually,for the 38th time.... > Ultrastar,Cuyuna,3 blade ultraprop. 2000',plane was set up to glide > engine off at 2100' and clock started as I passed 2000'. 5 minutes,30 > seconds later I touched down,didnt hit any thermals that I could > feel. The gps odometer showed 3.1 miles,about 16000'.....that makes 8 > to 1 glide. > > I wouldnt use that for any emergency,only the amount of time I have > after the fire goes out,making the altimeter a time to impact device. > My glide speed is 35mph,and with the 12mph headwind that day,I wouldnt > go very far foward. Depending on the rpm, the windmilling prop can cut > that time by a third. > > If there are those who dont think a windmilling prop slows a > plane,then how does a gyrocopter fly? Stop the blade,see how fast it > goes.....down. > > If your idle speed=pitch speed at your glide ratio,then the spinning > prop will not make much difference. The US isnt a good glider(I have > thermalled it at idle for 15 minutes),So my glide or thermal speed > must have been a little slower than the pitch speed. > > The Firefly as bad or worse than a brick when the throttle is below > 3000rpm. Falls from the sky. > > I have an r/c plane which is like the the kolb in flying > characteristics, at lower rpms you can spot land it,unless I flare too > high. then its re-bend the landing gear back again. Mark > * > > > * ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 02, 2012
Subject: The spot that doesn't move
From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com>
While everything a pilot knows about his airplane is useful in an abstract way, glide ratio is practically useless. For instance, when I recounted my engine out landing at Augusta, KS, Pat Ladd pointed out that the numbers didn't add up. I, as Pat pointed out, should have been able to glide quite a bit further than I did. Why didn't I? Because I was gliding into a 5 to 7 knot breeze from the west northwest and the runway, and hence the downwind leg of the pattern, lies directly north and south. And this is why knowing your aircraft's glide ratio is a useless piece of knowledge, because the wind usually blows. So, if glide ratio is useless, what is useful? Being able to recognize at a glance what you can reach at that moment, in the conditions at that moment, that's what's useful. For the next several flights, do this. Climb to 3 or 4,000 feet AGL, cut power to idle, and set up a glide at 50 mph. Now look at the objects on the ground out in front of you. Some will appear to be moving toward you, while others, further out, will appear to moving toward the horizon, away from you. In between are objects that appear to be stationary. Those stationary objects are the farthest you can reach at that moment. Do this when flying into the wind, across the wind, and with the wind and you'll notice that the angle from you to those stationary objects changes. With the wind, the angle is flatter. Into the wind, the angle steepens. Across the wind the angle will be somewhere in between. The actual angle is unimportant. Being able to recognize that line of stationary objects IS what's important and the faster you can do it the more time you have to pick a landing spot short of that line should the need arise. Rick Girard -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 02, 2012
Subject: Re: Glide ratio
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>
> > If there are those who dont think a windmilling prop slows a plane,then > how does a gyrocopter fly? Stop the blade,see how fast it goes.....down. > > I always thought that the blades on a Gyro were there to perform the same function as a wing? I am also puzzled by a prop on a kolb that will windmill with the engine turned off. I could never get any of mine, 447,503, HKS to ever do any more than an ocassional rotation at the speeds that I was traveling with the engine off. Perhaps you should think about checking the compression on your engine. I remember once of trying a restart by diving, but could never manage it. Larry ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: glide ratio
From: "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com>
Date: Oct 03, 2012
David, I think you've hit the nail right on the head. Everyone posting here should read or reread the classic Stick & Rudder. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stick_and_Rudder -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384581#384581 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/stick_and_rudder_book_cover_art_148.jpg ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: The spot that doesn't move
From: "David d." <david(at)PaulowniaTrees.com>
Date: Oct 04, 2012
Excellent observation Rick. The object not moving is very common on a horizontal plane. If an object doesnt move you had better turn left or right. Works on planes, ships, cars, etc. You should mention that raising the nose will not work. (power off) DD -------- Kolb Mark IIIX 582 Blue head Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384611#384611 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 04, 2012
From: David Kulp <undoctor(at)ptd.net>
Subject: Re: The spot that doesn't move
David, I believe you're mistaken about raising the nose not working. If I'm descending power off at 80 kts. from an altitude of 3K feet, there is a point ahead of me which "does not move" where I will touch down, all things remaining consistent. However, if I raise the nose and lower my speed to 45K, the point which "does not move" will be further away. The weight of the plane and all that's in it at the altitude it exists is potential energy, built up by the engine moving the mass to that altitude. When you are descending, that potential energy is now kinetic energy and is spent in speed and distance, as well as overcoming friction and wind resistance, etc. If you are using the energy to maintain an 80K speed and overcome the friction and wind resistance at that speed, you can raise the nose to trade off some of the speed and resistance for a greater distance, which will change where things don't move. The energy saved from the reduction of speed isn't lost, it's transferred to distance. You do it all the time, when you're landing especially. The aircraft doesn't know where the energy is coming from, the prop or gravity, so it's up to the pilot to adjust the power (engine) and the pitch (gravity) in order to touch down where he wants to. Too much power or too shallow a descent and you may overshoot the runway because the point "that does not move" is extended further in front. If you only have the energy of gravity, such as in a dead stick landing, you can still adjust the speed/distance relationship with pitch. Dave Kulp Bethlehem, PA FireFly 11DMK On 10/4/2012 6:58 AM, David d. wrote: > > Excellent observation Rick. > > The object not moving is very common on a horizontal plane. If an object doesnt move you had better turn left or right. Works on planes, ships, cars, etc. > You should mention that raising the nose will not work. (power off) > DD > > -------- > Kolb Mark IIIX 582 Blue head > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384611#384611 > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 04, 2012
Subject: Re: The spot that doesn't move
From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com>
Dave, Well, to some extent it depends upon the airplane. If I were flying my Kolb MkIIIC at 80 kts power off I'd pretty much be looking straight down. :-} First let's talk about real gliding speeds. For the mk IIIC the range is about 45 mph to 60, with a best of about 50. If I slow down from 50 to 45 there is a momentary ballooning that will make the STDM (spot that doesn't move) appear to move forward and then it will increase descent rate and the STDM not only comes back to where it was but moves toward me as the aircraft's sink rate goes up. If I do the reverse, speeding up from 45 to 50 the opposite reaction occurs, at first the STDM moves toward me as the nose comes down, caused by the slight dive to pick up speed, then extends outward as the plane "planes" out, for lack of a better term. Let's speed up some more to 60. Now there is neither ballooning nor a temporary sink followed by planing, the STDM just moves inward as the nose comes down. Even though the Kolb MkIII is a draggy airplane, exactly the same thing will happen in a Cessna 172, just at slightly greater speed. For the 172 it's 65 kts for best glide and decreasing to 60 will get the ballooning/greater sink response (Thanks Spence, for showing me that early in training). At Renton, WA, a tower controlled field where I did my training the standard pattern speed requested by the controllers was 80 kts and on busy days the slow guys got put in holding patterns while the faster airplanes were pushed through. You didn't dare slow to 65 until you had the second notch of flaps on final. Then the difference in sink rate between 65 and 60 REALLY became obvious. Incidentally, this is all covered quite well in "Stick and Rudder". Written almost 70 years ago, but still true today. Rick On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 10:08 AM, David Kulp wrote: > > David, > > I believe you're mistaken about raising the nose not working. If I'm > descending power off at 80 kts. from an altitude of 3K feet, there is a > point ahead of me which "does not move" where I will touch down, all things > remaining consistent. However, if I raise the nose and lower my speed to > 45K, the point which "does not move" will be further away. The weight of > the plane and all that's in it at the altitude it exists is potential > energy, built up by the engine moving the mass to that altitude. When you > are descending, that potential energy is now kinetic energy and is spent in > speed and distance, as well as overcoming friction and wind resistance, > etc. If you are using the energy to maintain an 80K speed and overcome the > friction and wind resistance at that speed, you can raise the nose to trade > off some of the speed and resistance for a greater distance, which will > change where things don't move. The energy saved from the reduction of > speed isn't lost, it's transferred to distance. > > You do it all the time, when you're landing especially. The aircraft > doesn't know where the energy is coming from, the prop or gravity, so it's > up to the pilot to adjust the power (engine) and the pitch (gravity) in > order to touch down where he wants to. Too much power or too shallow a > descent and you may overshoot the runway because the point "that does not > move" is extended further in front. If you only have the energy of gravity, > such as in a dead stick landing, you can still adjust the speed/distance > relationship with pitch. > > Dave Kulp > Bethlehem, PA > FireFly 11DMK > > > On 10/4/2012 6:58 AM, David d. wrote: > >> >> Excellent observation Rick. >> >> The object not moving is very common on a horizontal plane. If an object >> doesnt move you had better turn left or right. Works on planes, ships, >> cars, etc. >> You should mention that raising the nose will not work. (power off) >> DD >> >> -------- >> Kolb Mark IIIX 582 Blue head >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/**viewtopic.php?p=384611#384611> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 04, 2012
From: William Long <blong6826(at)sbcglobal.net>
Subject: NGK Spark Plugs
I used the BR8EIX plugs on my FireFly 447. They have 35 hours on them. its Idleing a little rough. Should I spend the money on BR8EIX or just use B8ES? Thanks Bill Long 2000 FireFly Holt MI. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 04, 2012
From: David Kulp <undoctor(at)ptd.net>
Subject: Re: The spot that doesn't move
Hi Rick, We agree. When I was taking lessons in a Cessna, Andy would have me slow down to just above stall and then do tight turns, etc. while "slow flying." After I'd get into the very severe AOA necessary to slow fly I had to apply quite a bit of power in order to maintain my altitude. Andy looks a lot like SNL's Andy Samberg, but that's where the similarity ended. If I'd lose 50' of altitude doing a tight 360 while slow flying I'd hear about it! So when you're slow flying at a very high AOA, you're using close to the same amount of power (energy) to maintain altitude at a very slow speed. It almost feels like you're plowing snow. So let's skip slow flying or much of any range below best glide, because if someone chose to slow fly in a power out situation they'd be harboring a death wish. I would figure that the best glide speed would be where there was enough speed to reduce the AOA, but not so much speed that the energy is being wasted on the increased drag inherent with the higher speed. So it's from that speed upward that one would adjust pitch and speed to arrive at the site they chose. In your reply you wrote: *Let's speed up some more to 60. Now there is neither ballooning nor a temporary sink followed by planing, the STDM just moves inward as the nose comes down.* So if the STDM moves inward when the nose comes down (and the speed is increased), then if you were doing 70 and raised the nose, the speed would drop and the STDM would move outward as the nose rose. You can't have one without the other; physics is 100% consistent, unless you're dealing with bumble bees. When my Cuyuna shut off I was over my house in Lansdale and when I chose the Pennfield Middle School sports fields to land I dropped my nose till the STDM was the track and the resulting speed showing on my Halls was 80 MPH. Pretty near VNX, but the US was staying together so I stayed with it because in my total inexperience I figured it was my best shot at not getting hurt or something. Dave Kulp On 10/4/2012 11:43 AM, Richard Girard wrote: > Dave, Well, to some extent it depends upon the airplane. If I were > flying my Kolb MkIIIC at 80 kts power off I'd pretty much be looking > straight down. :-} > First let's talk about real gliding speeds. For the mk IIIC the range > is about 45 mph to 60, with a best of about 50. If I slow down from 50 > to 45 there is a momentary ballooning that will make the STDM (spot > that doesn't move) appear to move forward and then it will increase > descent rate and the STDM not only comes back to where it was but > moves toward me as the aircraft's sink rate goes up. > If I do the reverse, speeding up from 45 to 50 the opposite reaction > occurs, at first the STDM moves toward me as the nose comes down, > caused by the slight dive to pick up speed, then extends outward as > the plane "planes" out, for lack of a better term. > Let's speed up some more to 60. Now there is neither ballooning nor a > temporary sink followed by planing, the STDM just moves inward as the > nose comes down. > Even though the Kolb MkIII is a draggy airplane, exactly the same > thing will happen in a Cessna 172, just at slightly greater speed. For > the 172 it's 65 kts for best glide and decreasing to 60 will get the > ballooning/greater sink response (Thanks Spence, for showing me that > early in training). At Renton, WA, a tower controlled field where I > did my training the standard pattern speed requested by the > controllers was 80 kts and on busy days the slow guys got put in > holding patterns while the faster airplanes were pushed through. You > didn't dare slow to 65 until you had the second notch of flaps on > final. Then the difference in sink rate between 65 and 60 REALLY > became obvious. > Incidentally, this is all covered quite well in "Stick and Rudder". > Written almost 70 years ago, but still true today. > > Rick > > On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 10:08 AM, David Kulp > wrote: > > > > > David, > > I believe you're mistaken about raising the nose not working. If > I'm descending power off at 80 kts. from an altitude of 3K feet, > there is a point ahead of me which "does not move" where I will > touch down, all things remaining consistent. However, if I raise > the nose and lower my speed to 45K, the point which "does not > move" will be further away. The weight of the plane and all > that's in it at the altitude it exists is potential energy, built > up by the engine moving the mass to that altitude. When you are > descending, that potential energy is now kinetic energy and is > spent in speed and distance, as well as overcoming friction and > wind resistance, etc. If you are using the energy to maintain an > 80K speed and overcome the friction and wind resistance at that > speed, you can raise the nose to trade off some of the speed and > resistance for a greater distance, which will change where things > don't move. The energy saved from the reduction of speed isn't > lost, it's transferred to distance. > > You do it all the time, when you're landing especially. The > aircraft doesn't know where the energy is coming from, the prop or > gravity, so it's up to the pilot to adjust the power (engine) and > the pitch (gravity) in order to touch down where he wants to. Too > much power or too shallow a descent and you may overshoot the > runway because the point "that does not move" is extended further > in front. If you only have the energy of gravity, such as in a > dead stick landing, you can still adjust the speed/distance > relationship with pitch. > > Dave Kulp > Bethlehem, PA > FireFly 11DMK > > > On 10/4/2012 6:58 AM, David d. wrote: > > > > Excellent observation Rick. > > The object not moving is very common on a horizontal plane. If > an object doesnt move you had better turn left or right. > Works on planes, ships, cars, etc. > You should mention that raising the nose will not work. (power > off) > DD > > -------- > Kolb Mark IIIX 582 Blue head > > > Read this topic online here: > >
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384611#384611 > > > =================================== > arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List > =================================== > http://forums.matronics.com > =================================== > le, List Admin. > ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > =================================== > > > -- > Zulu Delta > Mk IIIC > Thanks, Homer GBYM > > It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be > unhappy. > - Groucho Marx > > > * > > > * ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 04, 2012
Subject: Re: The spot that doesn't move
From: David Peters <dpeters160(at)gmail.com>
What was the cause of your engine quitting Dave? On Oct 4, 2012 2:12 PM, "David Kulp" wrote: > Hi Rick, > > We agree. When I was taking lessons in a Cessna, Andy would have me slow > down to just above stall and then do tight turns, etc. while "slow > flying." After I'd get into the very severe AOA necessary to slow fly I > had to apply quite a bit of power in order to maintain my altitude. Andy > looks a lot like SNL's Andy Samberg, but that's where the similarity > ended. If I'd lose 50' of altitude doing a tight 360 while slow flying > I'd hear about it! So when you're slow flying at a very high AOA, you're > using close to the same amount of power (energy) to maintain altitude at a > very slow speed. It almost feels like you're plowing snow. So let's skip > slow flying or much of any range below best glide, because if someone chose > to slow fly in a power out situation they'd be harboring a death wish. > > I would figure that the best glide speed would be where there was enough > speed to reduce the AOA, but not so much speed that the energy is being > wasted on the increased drag inherent with the higher speed. So it's from > that speed upward that one would adjust pitch and speed to arrive at the > site they chose. In your reply you wrote: > *Let's speed up some more to 60. Now there is neither ballooning nor a > temporary sink followed by planing, the STDM just moves inward as the nose > comes down.* > So if the STDM moves inward when the nose comes down (and the speed is > increased), then if you were doing 70 and raised the nose, the speed would > drop and the STDM would move outward as the nose rose. You can't have one > without the other; physics is 100% consistent, unless you're dealing with > bumble bees. > > When my Cuyuna shut off I was over my house in Lansdale and when I chose > the Pennfield Middle School sports fields to land I dropped my nose till > the STDM was the track and the resulting speed showing on my Halls was 80 > MPH. Pretty near VNX, but the US was staying together so I stayed with it > because in my total inexperience I figured it was my best shot at not > getting hurt or something. > > Dave Kulp > > > On 10/4/2012 11:43 AM, Richard Girard wrote: > > Dave, Well, to some extent it depends upon the airplane. If I were flying > my Kolb MkIIIC at 80 kts power off I'd pretty much be looking straight > down. :-} > First let's talk about real gliding speeds. For the mk IIIC the range is > about 45 mph to 60, with a best of about 50. If I slow down from 50 to 45 > there is a momentary ballooning that will make the STDM (spot that doesn't > move) appear to move forward and then it will increase descent rate and the > STDM not only comes back to where it was but moves toward me as the > aircraft's sink rate goes up. > If I do the reverse, speeding up from 45 to 50 the opposite reaction > occurs, at first the STDM moves toward me as the nose comes down, caused by > the slight dive to pick up speed, then extends outward as the plane > "planes" out, for lack of a better term. > Let's speed up some more to 60. Now there is neither ballooning nor a > temporary sink followed by planing, the STDM just moves inward as the nose > comes down. > Even though the Kolb MkIII is a draggy airplane, exactly the same thing > will happen in a Cessna 172, just at slightly greater speed. For the 172 > it's 65 kts for best glide and decreasing to 60 will get the > ballooning/greater sink response (Thanks Spence, for showing me that early > in training). At Renton, WA, a tower controlled field where I did my > training the standard pattern speed requested by the controllers was 80 kts > and on busy days the slow guys got put in holding patterns while the faster > airplanes were pushed through. You didn't dare slow to 65 until you had the > second notch of flaps on final. Then the difference in sink rate between 65 > and 60 REALLY became obvious. > Incidentally, this is all covered quite well in "Stick and Rudder". > Written almost 70 years ago, but still true today. > > Rick > > On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 10:08 AM, David Kulp wrote: > >> >> David, >> >> I believe you're mistaken about raising the nose not working. If I'm >> descending power off at 80 kts. from an altitude of 3K feet, there is a >> point ahead of me which "does not move" where I will touch down, all things >> remaining consistent. However, if I raise the nose and lower my speed to >> 45K, the point which "does not move" will be further away. The weight of >> the plane and all that's in it at the altitude it exists is potential >> energy, built up by the engine moving the mass to that altitude. When you >> are descending, that potential energy is now kinetic energy and is spent in >> speed and distance, as well as overcoming friction and wind resistance, >> etc. If you are using the energy to maintain an 80K speed and overcome the >> friction and wind resistance at that speed, you can raise the nose to trade >> off some of the speed and resistance for a greater distance, which will >> change where things don't move. The energy saved from the reduction of >> speed isn't lost, it's transferred to distance. >> >> You do it all the time, when you're landing especially. The aircraft >> doesn't know where the energy is coming from, the prop or gravity, so it's >> up to the pilot to adjust the power (engine) and the pitch (gravity) in >> order to touch down where he wants to. Too much power or too shallow a >> descent and you may overshoot the runway because the point "that does not >> move" is extended further in front. If you only have the energy of gravity, >> such as in a dead stick landing, you can still adjust the speed/distance >> relationship with pitch. >> >> Dave Kulp >> Bethlehem, PA >> FireFly 11DMK >> >> >> On 10/4/2012 6:58 AM, David d. wrote: >> >>> >>> Excellent observation Rick. >>> >>> The object not moving is very common on a horizontal plane. If an object >>> doesnt move you had better turn left or right. Works on planes, ships, >>> cars, etc. >>> You should mention that raising the nose will not work. (power off) >>> DD >>> >>> -------- >>> Kolb Mark IIIX 582 Blue head >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Read this topic online here: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384611#384611 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> =================================== >> arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List >> =================================== >> http://forums.matronics.com >> =================================== >> le, List Admin. >> ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> =================================== >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Zulu Delta > Mk IIIC > Thanks, Homer GBYM > > It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be > unhappy. > - Groucho Marx > > > * > > * > > > * > > * > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 04, 2012
From: chris davis <capedavis(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: NGK Spark Plugs
Bill I think you are doing great I flew a Kolb with a 503 and never got mor e than 20 hours out of a set of plugs I have been out of- flight conditio n for some time but I never heard of BR8EIX plugs is that something new ? p leases excuse my ignorince. Chris=0A=0AChris Davis=0AKXP 503 492 hrs=0AGlid er Pilot=0ADisabled from crash building Firefly=0A=0AFrom: William Long <bl ong6826(at)sbcglobal.net>=0ATo: kolb-list(at)matronics.com =0ASent: Thursday, Oct ober 4, 2012 4:28 PM=0ASubject: Kolb-List: NGK Spark Plugs=0A=0A=0AI used t he BR8EIX plugs on my FireFly 447. -They have 35 hours on them. its Idlei ng a little rough. -Should I spend the money on BR8EIX or just use-=0AB ======== ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Seat frame brace
From: "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com>
Date: Oct 04, 2012
This quick fix worked out well, with just a quick touch-up of black paint. There are 3 basic types of spray paint formulas 1. Lacquer- Most spray paints are acrylic or nitro-cellulose based lacquer, such as Krylon. It dries fast and can be re-coated quickly and bonds to itself. Even some paints labeled enamel are actually lacquers. 2.Oil based -enamels and polyurethane. They dry much slower but generally more are more durable.3. Water based acrylic lacquers which are fairly new to the market. Water is used as a solvent instead of chemical solvents in regular lacquers. [Wink] -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384660#384660 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/ballast_006_390.jpg ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 05, 2012
From: Jon LaVasseur <firestar503(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Event
Hi Kolb drivers,=0A-=0AIs there going to be a Kolb Flyin this fall?=0A- =0AJon L=0AMinnesota ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Event
Date: Oct 05, 2012
Is there going to be a Kolb Flyin this fall? Jon L Minnesota John L/Kolbers: Kolb Aircraft set 16-18 Nov 2012, as the date of the Kolb Homecoming this year. This date was set last summer. I have not heard anything about the flyin since then. Will check with Travis and Bryan to see what the status of the Kolb Homecoming is and post results to the Kolb List. john h mkIII Rock House, OR ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 05, 2012
Subject: tail wheel compression springs?
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>
Does any body know what size compression springs work best on on Kolbs? Larry -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 05, 2012
From: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart(at)onlyinternet.net>
Subject: Re: The spot that doesn't move
> >David, > >I believe you're mistaken about raising the nose not working. If I'm >descending power off at 80 kts. from an altitude of 3K feet, there is a >point ahead of me which "does not move" where I will touch down, all >things remaining consistent. However, if I raise the nose and lower my >speed to 45K, the point which "does not move" will be further away. The above is true until you reach the "best glide" speed for your aircraft. If one glides at a slower speed that best glide, the do not move point will move closer and closer. Also as the speed continues to be reduced, the dwell flight time will increase until you reach stall. What is important here is that you pick a spot that you can reach and still have enough altitude and speed to make a safe and as normal approach as possible. It reduces pilot anxiety. As a side note, earlier this week a fellow was delivering a Capella xls to Lima, Ohio. He ended up in a bean field about 1,000 feet short of my home airport. I talked to him as he and his grandson were winching it from the field to the road. He said he was at 3,500 feet and about five miles from Randolph County Airport, when the front two cylinders of his 912ul seized. He made no flap touch down in a bean field south of a road. The nose wheel impacted with and tore off on the edge of the road. This bounced him across the road into the bean field on the north side of the road. Other than a torn off nose wheel the plane looked fine. If he was 3,500 feet asl, he would have had to have a glide ratio of 11 to 1 to make the airport. If he was 3,500 agl, he would have had to have a glide ratio of 7.5 to 1 to reach the airport. For the point at which he touched down the ratios come out to be 10.6 to 1 and 7.25 to 1. If he had paid attention to the dot, he could have slowed it up a little and put it into the bean field parallel close to the road and may be saved the nose wheel. Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Event
Date: Oct 05, 2012
Will check with Travis and Bryan to see what the status of the Kolb Homecoming is and post results to the Kolb List. john h Hi Folks: Talked with Travis and Bryan reference the upcoming Kolb Homecoming, 16-18 Nov 2012. Yes, the flyin is still on. Unlike previous Kolb Homecomings, we will have pay as you go food and drinks and/or a "kitty" jar to help Kolb Aircraft defray expenses for the flyin. I also checked weather history for that week for the last 3 years. Looked like there was a mixture of rain fog, and good weather, along with cooler temps, but not cold except at night. I plan to flyin in and camp with my airplane as usual. Hope to see a bunch of you all there. john h mkIII Rock House, OR ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: tail wheel compression springs?
From: Shack <hshack(at)aol.com>
Date: Oct 05, 2012
I don't know what size they are, but I got mine from Lowe's. They are spri ngs that limit a screen door or storm door from opening too far. You have to remove the chain and bracket from them. There may be other sources, but I haven't found them. Does any body know what size compression springs work best on on Kolbs? Larry Shack hshack(at)aol.com -----Original Message----- From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> Sent: Fri, Oct 5, 2012 3:05 pm Subject: Kolb-List: tail wheel compression springs? Does any body know what size compression springs work best on on Kolbs? Larry -- If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email addres s before sending. -= - The Kolb-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List - -======================== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -======================== ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: The spot that doesn't move
Date: Oct 06, 2012
The object not moving is very common on a horizontal plane>> Ask any sailor. If you are moving and an object remain on a fixed bearing and nothing changes YOU WILL HIT IT. Same with the non moving spot on your windshield. If you do nothing (and don`t flare) that is where you will meet the ground. Pat ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 06, 2012
Subject: Re: The spot that doesn't move
From: David Peters <dpeters160(at)gmail.com>
Common in an airplane too; sorry, couldn't't resist. On Saturday, October 6, 2012, Pat Ladd wrote: > > The object not moving is very common on a horizontal plane>> > > Ask any sailor. > If you are moving and an object remain on a fixed bearing and nothing changes YOU WILL HIT IT. > > Same with the non moving spot on your windshield. If you do nothing (and don`t flare) that is where you will meet the ground. > > Pat > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 06, 2012
Subject: Re: The spot that doesn't move
From: Rick Neilsen <neilsenrm(at)gmail.com>
That spot that doesn't move should be in the same place assuming the weight, speed, is close and the flap position is the same. So why not put a mark on the windscreen showing where you will be landing??? Would that work? Rick Neilsen Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 12:00 PM, David Peters wrote: > Common in an airplane too; sorry, couldn't't resist. > > > On Saturday, October 6, 2012, Pat Ladd wrote: > > > > The object not moving is very common on a horizontal plane>> > > > > Ask any sailor. > > If you are moving and an object remain on a fixed bearing and nothing > changes YOU WILL HIT IT. > > > > Same with the non moving spot on your windshield. If you do nothing (and > don`t flare) that is where you will meet the ground. > > > > Pat================ > mp; Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, > --> http://www.===== > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > == <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List> > > > > > > > > > <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List> > > * > > * > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 06, 2012
Subject: Re: The spot that doesn't move
From: David Peters <dpeters160(at)gmail.com>
A mark that looks like Kennedy Airport would be great! On Oct 6, 2012 10:27 AM, "Rick Neilsen" wrote: > That spot that doesn't move should be in the same place assuming the > weight, speed, is close and the flap position is the same. So why not put a > mark on the windscreen showing where you will be landing??? > > Would that work? > > Rick Neilsen > Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC > > On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 12:00 PM, David Peters wrote: > >> Common in an airplane too; sorry, couldn't't resist. >> >> >> On Saturday, October 6, 2012, Pat Ladd wrote: >> > >> > The object not moving is very common on a horizontal plane>> >> > >> > Ask any sailor. >> > If you are moving and an object remain on a fixed bearing and nothing >> changes YOU WILL HIT IT. >> > >> > Same with the non moving spot on your windshield. If you do nothing >> (and don`t flare) that is where you will meet the ground. >> > >> > Pat================ >> mp; Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, >> --> http://www.===== >> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> == <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List> >> >> * >> >> ="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List* >> tp://forums.matronics.com >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> >> > * > > * > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 06, 2012
From: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart(at)onlyinternet.net>
Subject: Re: The spot that doesn't move
Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 13:24:38 -0400 From: Rick Neilsen <neilsenrm(at)gmail.com> > >That spot that doesn't move should be in the same place assuming the weight, speed, is close and the flap position is the same. So why not put a mark on the windscreen showing where you will be landing??? > Rick, When I started flying sailplanes, I had difficulty finding the spot. I did not know where to look. Part of the problem was that I was used to flying in tractor aircraft with high instrument panels that did not let you look down over the nose. With the low instrument panels and forward reaching canopy on the sailplane, one had very good forward and downward view over the nose. It took a while to find the spot relative to the top of the low instrument panel or forward edge of the canopy. I found I was spending too much time finding the spot. I solved the problem by doing what you suggest. I placed a horizontal strip of black electricians tape forward on the inside of the canopy just below where I thought the spot would appear. I flew this way for several months, and then I found I didn't need it any more. It just takes some self training and practice. When I first started flying the FireFly to out lying airports, I would cruise at 2,500 to 3,000 feet agl. I could not find the airports. There was too much too look at. But the gps said, the airport was there. I would start to circle at altitude until I could find it. I discovered I was too close when I started to look for the airports. I was looking beyond them. Later on, I had little trouble seeing them from miles out. Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 06, 2012
Subject: Re: tail wheel compression springs?
From: Rick Neilsen <neilsenrm(at)gmail.com>
Larry This is what I use. Aircraft Spruce - Springs Only ................. P/N 06-15700 .............Ea $7.35 Rick Neilsen On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Larry Cottrell wrote: > Does any body know what size compression springs work best on on Kolbs? > Larry > > -- > *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email > address before sending.* > > * > > * > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 06, 2012
From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: The spot that doesn't move
At 01:24 PM 10/6/2012, Rick Neilsen wrote: >That spot that doesn't move should be in the same place assuming the >weight, speed, is close and the flap position is the same. So why not put >a mark on the windscreen showing where you will be landing??? > >Would that work? No, because it will vary (quite significantly) depending on the wind. -Dana -- This is a test of the emergency tagline system. Were this an actual tagline, you would see amusing mottos, disclaimers, a zillion net addresses, or edifying philisophical statements. This is only a test. ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Reg. Canadian aircraft
From: "sword181" <swordeandd(at)wildblue.net>
Date: Oct 06, 2012
Can anyone tell me what kind of hassle it is to register an aircraft in the US that you purchase in Canada? -------- It is never to late for a joyous childhood. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384814#384814 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 06, 2012
From: TheWanderingWench <thewanderingwench(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: AT OMSI: RECORD-BREAKING SUPERSONIC SKYDIVE ON OCTOBER 8
Even if you don't live in the portland, oregon area - you can watch this on the red bull website.=0AAnd if you live near portland, and want to get up early, you can watch it free at omsi!=0A=0ALIVE VIEWING PARTY: RECORD-BREAK ING SUPERSONIC SKYDIVE ON OCTOBER 8=0A=C2-=0AOMSI will offer daredevils a nd space exploration enthusiasts alike the opportunity to watch a record-br eaking supersonic skydive on Monday, October 8, starting at 5:30 a.m. Toget her with a team of aerospace experts, Austrian extreme athlete Felix Baumga rtner will attempt to jump from a balloon in the stratosphere from an altit ude of 120,000 feet and perform a record-breaking freefall.=0A=C2-=0AOMSI will show the jump live in the planetarium via the Red Bull Stratos websit or the live viewing is free. The event is weather-permitting and will be co nfirmed by 5 a.m. Please check the mission website for possible cancellatio ns.=0A=C2-=0AThe Red Bull Stratos mission will see 35 cameras used to liv e stream the 23 mile fall from the edge of space. The planned four-hour bro adcast will see Baumgartner wear three point-of-view cameras along with fur ther images broadcast from the launch capsule, a helicopter and high-altitu de infrared and HD tracking systems.=0A=C2-=0ABaumgartner wants to become the first person to break the speed of sound without the protection of an aircraft while simultaneously collecting data never obtained before for the advancement of medical science. After testing in an elaborate altitude (va cuum) chamber in Texas, the mission will take place in Roswell, New Mexico due to favorable weather and location conditions. Perfect weather condition s are needed for the delicate 850,000 cubic meters helium balloon, which is made of plastic that has 1/10th the thickness of a Ziploc bag.=0A=C2-=0A Mission Red Bull Stratos will attempt to break four records at the same tim e that have remained unbroken for more than 50 years:=0A=C2-=0AThe highes t manned balloon flight (120,000 feet)=0AThe highest skydive=0AThe first pe rson to break the speed of sound during freefall=0AThe longest freefall (ab out 5 minutes 30 seconds)=0A=C2-=0AColonel Joe Kittinger set the original freefall record from 102,800 feet during his historic =9CExcelsior I II=9D project in 1960. That project proved to be instrumental in adva ncing research that led to improvements in safety for people in near space environments as well as improvements in development of space suits. Kitting er has been an advisor to the Red Bull Stratos project from the very beginn ing and serves as a mentor to the 41-year-old Baumgartner.=0A=C2-=0AThe t eam will share its findings and breakthroughs in the areas of aviation, aer ospace, and medical science with communities around the world. The mission aims to:=0A=C2-=0AAid development of a new generation of space suits, inc luding enhanced mobility and visual clarity, and parachute systems that lea d to passenger crew exits from space=0AAid development of protocols for exp osure to high altitude/high acceleration=0AAid exploration of the effects o f supersonic acceleration and subsequent deceleration on the human body, in cluding development of the latest innovations in parachute systems=0A=C2- =0AImages and additional info are also located here:=C2-http://www.redbul lstratos.com/ ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 07, 2012
From: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart(at)onlyinternet.net>
Subject: Re: The spot that doesn't move
From: "b young" <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com> Subject: Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 16:28:25 -0600 > how do you adjust the tape for differing winds. 5, 10 mph..12 or 14????. now is that straight down the runway,,, cross wind from the left or the right.. did anyone say quartering tail wind, by the time we get done the piece of tape will be a sheet of paper with peep holes punched through out it each marked with a different wind configuration, glide speed, wing loading. we might as well be flying some tractor we cant see out of. OR you could just carry a flat rock in your shirt pocket,,,,,, open the door and toss it out and follow it down. just make sure it is a brightly colored rock so you can see it all the way to the ground. with too much tape on the window you may just for get to fly the plane,,, as you try and remember what each mark on the tape is for. the reality of the situation is,,,, by the time you figure out where to put the tape, you should not need it any more. LOL > What is being forgotten here is that the "spot that doesn't move" has already taken into account the wind conditions, wing loading and glide speed. If the spot is not over the runway, fly to the point where it is. If not, I believe it was Pat Ladd, that said if you fly to it with a constant glide slope, you will impact the earth at that point. My suggestion of using the tape has nothing to do but act as a guide as to were to look for the spot. Once a person finds the spot and fixes on it, the pilot will no longer see the tape and can focus on the things that a pilot should focus on while landing under varying wind speed and direction. Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 08, 2012
Subject: JG's FireFly tour of the Western USA
From: JC Gilpin <j.gilpin(at)bigpond.com>
Gday All, Well, I've finally finished up my tour of the Western USA with a FireFly towed in a trailer. I flew out of 44 airfields in 13 states in 5 months. See the story and photos at http://jgwalkaboutusa.blogspot.com/ It was a blast! JG ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: JG's FireFly tour of the Western USA
Date: Oct 07, 2012
Well, I've finally finished up my tour of the Western USA with a FireFly towed in a trailer. I flew out of 44 airfields in 13 states in 5 months. See the story and photos at http://jgwalkaboutusa.blogspot.com/ It was a blast! JG JG/Kolbers: Was fortunate enough to get to spend time with John during his stay at the Rock House last June. He is a man after my own heart. He is not afraid to fly anywhere, especially in his own country of Australia. Check out his web site if you get a chance. Glad I got to meet you, John. Good luck on your trip home. Will be departing the Rock House in the morning, after spending a great month with Larry and Karen Cottrell. Wish I could stay longer, but got to get home to vote by 7 Nov, and get ready for the Kolb Homecoming shortly thereafter. How many Kolbers plan to attend the Homecoming? fly, drive, or hike? Be good to get an idea of about how many we can expect to attend. Thanks, john h mkIII Rock House, Oregon. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 07, 2012
From: Charlie England <ceengland7(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: JG's FireFly tour of the Western USA
On 10/07/2012 06:11 PM, JC Gilpin wrote: > Gday All, > > Well, I've finally finished up my tour of the Western USA with a > FireFly towed in a trailer. > I flew out of 44 airfields in 13 states in 5 months. > See the story and photos at > http://jgwalkaboutusa.blogspot.com/ > > It was a blast! > > JG Looks like great fun. I hate that I missed your trip. We'd have been happy for you to make a pit stop here at Slobovia Outernational (MS71), about mid way between Diamondhead & Joe's place in Grenada. Charlie ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: JG's FireFly tour of the Western USA
From: "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com>
Date: Oct 08, 2012
JG, I look forward to reading the blog of your adventures. I already took a peak at your bike modification on the Savannah. Great idea and well executed. I got all the camping out of my system while I was a youngster in Boy Scouts so I don't do these sorts of x-country adventures but still enjoy others' vicariously through their writing and photos. Good Job! Thanks for sharing. -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY (9G0) Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Diamond Katana DA20-A1 Rotax 912 F3 Don't worry about old age... it doesn't last very long. - Anonymous Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384924#384924 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: The spot that doesn't move
Date: Oct 08, 2012
Common in an airplane too; sorry, couldn't resist>> Yep, sure is but you don`t normally have time to take a bearing while you are flying your plane Cheers Pat ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Lee" <lmorgan100(at)charter.net>
Subject: wing strut flutter
Date: Oct 08, 2012
Hey everyone, I have been doing some test flights with my newly rebuilt Twinstar MK II. I have noticed that I am getting some flutter on the wing struts, It seems to happen at pretty much all speeds. Can anyone give me some ideas on this ? thanks, Lee.. ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: wing strut flutter
From: Ellery Batchelder Jr <elleryweld(at)aol.com>
Date: Oct 08, 2012
have you got the round struts? Ellery Batchelder Jr. -----Original Message----- From: Lee <lmorgan100(at)charter.net> Sent: Mon, Oct 8, 2012 6:19 pm Subject: Kolb-List: wing strut flutter Hey everyone, I have been doing some test flights with my newly rebuiltTwinstar MK II. I have noticed that I am getting some flutter on the wingstruts, It seems t o happen at pretty much all speeds. Can anyone give me some ideas on this ? thanks, Lee.. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Lee" <lmorgan100(at)charter.net>
Subject: Re: wing strut flutter
Date: Oct 09, 2012
Rick and Ellery, Yes I have the round struts, is there an inexpensive fix for this or do I need to get some streamline strut covers. Also is it safe to fly like this ? thanks. Lee.. ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: wing strut flutter
From: Ellery Batchelder Jr <elleryweld(at)aol.com>
Date: Oct 09, 2012
You have a couple options Buy the PVC streamline strut covers from Kolb or Make your own out of aluminum either will stop the vibration of your struts Ellery Batchelder Jr. -----Original Message----- From: Lee <lmorgan100(at)charter.net> Sent: Tue, Oct 9, 2012 7:00 am Subject: Re: Kolb-List: wing strut flutter Rick and Ellery, Yes I have the round struts, is there an inexpensive fix forthis or do I ne ed to get some streamline strut covers. Also is it safe to fly like this ? thanks. Lee.. ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: wing strut flutter
From: "George Alexander" <gtalexander(at)att.net>
Date: Oct 09, 2012
lmorgan100(at)charter.net wrote: > Hey everyone, > I have been doing some test flights with my newly rebuilt Twinstar MK II. > I have noticed that I am getting some flutter on the wing struts, It seems to happen at pretty much all speeds. > Can anyone give me some ideas on this ? > thanks, > Lee.. > While you are going over it, check to make sure there is no "slop" at the connecting points. Elongated holes, worn or undersize hardware (clevis pins or bolts), tight brackets at the wing end. Had an original Firestar with almost 200 hrs. Round struts, no flutter. As Beauford (and others) sez.... worth what you paid for it. -------- George Alexander FS II R503 N709FS http://www.oh2fly.net Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385006#385006 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: wing strut flutter
From: "David Lucas" <d_a_lucas(at)hotmail.com>
Date: Oct 11, 2012
> is there an inexpensive fix for this My curiosity gets the better of me ;-) I am just wondering if a length of chord wrapped in a helical manner around the strut might stop the vibrations. It would definitely be the most inexpensive fix I would think. Similar effect to the strakes on chimney stacks. See the nylon chord on the pole of the weather station about half way down this page; http://www.tigranetworks.co.uk/blogs/tigranetworks/preventing-vortex-shedding-with-a-helical-strake/ Like I say, just my curiosity. David. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385097#385097 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 10/10/12
From: barry.ctr.naples(at)faa.gov
Date: Oct 11, 2012
I asked to be removed from all kolb-list emails. From: Kolb-List Digest Server <kolb-list(at)matronics.com> AMI-620, Desk Side Support & Implementation Branch Date: 10/11/2012 02:16 AM Subject: Kolb-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 10/10/12 Sent by: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com * ================================================= Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================= Today's complete Kolb-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the Kolb-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 12-10-10&Archive=Kolb Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 12-10-10&Archive=Kolb =============================================== EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive =============================================== ---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 10/10/12: 0 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 11, 2012
Subject: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 10/10/12
From: Rick Neilsen <neilsenrm(at)gmail.com>
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From: <bill(at)keystonesnacks.com>
Subject: Insurance: Help Me!
Date: Oct 11, 2012
I have a brand new Firestar II: factory built all possible options. It should win Grand Champion at Oshkosh. I was lucky to get a hangar at my local airport. The FBO requires I have insurance. This has been an impossible task. the FBO and I called all the insurance companies he has dealt with over a lifetime. All of which were reluctant to insure the aircraft. We called the EAA, which I have been a member of for over 35 years, and still had no luck. The FBO told me that I am flying illegally. The Firestar II is N# and has passed inspection and airworthiness certificate. Almost all of the insurance companies have never heard of Kolb aircraft. I am a student pilot with 35 hours in a 140. I was the Eastern PA and NJ Eipper Quicksilver dealer and sold and taught many people how to fly. We sold a lot of airplanes to a lot of people including Mario Andretti, Steve Pitcarin, and Asplund. I have flown most models of ultralights and logged more hours than imaginable. Finding insurance for my new Firestar II has been to date impossible. Insurance companies will not talk to me unless I have 250 hours in fixed wing and 25 hours in a tail dragger. I am 61 years old. There is no way I can get 250 hours in a fixed wing. I also fly my cousin=99s Commandchie, laminar airflow wing, high performance. The FBO does not even want my aircraft stored in the hangar without insurance. I am located 50 miles south of NY City and 50 miles north of Philadelphia putting me in a high congested area. I would appreciate any help you guys could give me obtaining insurance for my aircraft. Thank you, Bill Corriere ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Insurance: Help Me!
From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net>
Date: Oct 11, 2012
You can get insurance through USUA (usua.org) or ASC (aerosports.org). -Dana bill(at)keystonesnacks.com wrote: >I have a brand new Firestar II: factory built all possible options. It >should win Grand Champion at Oshkosh. I was lucky to get a hangar at my >local airport. The FBO requires I have insurance. This has been an >impossible task. the FBO and I called all the insurance companies he >has dealt with over a lifetime. All of which were reluctant to insure >the aircraft. We called the EAA, which I have been a member of for over >35 years, and still had no luck. The FBO told me that I am flying >illegally. The Firestar II is N# and has passed inspection and >airworthiness certificate. Almost all of the insurance companies have >never heard of Kolb aircraft. I am a student pilot with 35 hours in a >140. I was the Eastern PA and NJ Eipper Quicksilver dealer and sold and >taught many people how to fly. We sold a lot of airplanes to a lot of >people including Mario Andretti, Steve Pitcarin, and Asplund. I have >flown most models of ultralights and logged more hours than imaginable. >Finding insurance for my new Firestar II has been to date impossible. >Insurance companies will not talk to me unless I have 250 hours in >fixed wing and 25 hours in a tail dragger. I am 61 years old. There is >no way I can get 250 hours in a fixed wing. I also fly my cousins >Commandchie, laminar airflow wing, high performance. The FBO does not >even want my aircraft stored in the hangar without insurance. > >I am located 50 miles south of NY City and 50 miles north of >Philadelphia putting me in a high congested area. I would appreciate >any help you guys could give me obtaining insurance for my aircraft. > >Thank you, >Bill Corriere ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 11, 2012
From: chris davis <capedavis(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 10/10/12
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Subject: Re: Insurance: Help Me!
From: "Ralph B" <rstar447(at)gmail.com>
Date: Oct 12, 2012
Bill, all those ultralight hours you have count for something and when filling out the forms with EAA Falcon insurance, count those hours. Since you are a student pilot, you should be considering getting a SP license as you are flying a Firestar II. Once you have your SP ticket, you shouldn't have any problem getting insurance. I know it's a catch 22 trying to get a license and not being able to fly and hanger without the insurance. You might look up the nearest SP training facility and get the license first. Training in a LSA would suit you better than learning in a Piper Cherokee 140 anyway. Ralph -------- Ralph B Original Firestar 447 N91493 E-AB 1000+ hours 25 years flying it Kolbra 912 N20386 200 hours Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385195#385195 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 10/10/12
From: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Oct 13, 2012
If you slip a $20 bill under the Laptop... Then I'll do it... Other wise you'll be haunted with Kolb Messages forever ! . Gotta Fly... . . -------- . . . . Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385242#385242 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 14, 2012
From: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart(at)onlyinternet.net>
Subject: Re: wing strut flutter
> > >> is there an inexpensive fix for this > > >My curiosity gets the better of me ;-) I am just wondering if a length of chord wrapped in a helical manner around the strut might stop the vibrations. It would definitely be the most inexpensive fix I would think. >Similar effect to the strakes on chimney stacks. See the nylon chord on the pole of the weather station about half way down this page; http://www.tigranetworks.co.uk/blogs/tigranetworks/preventing-vortex-sheddin g-with-a-helical-strake/


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