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April 21, 2013 - June 15, 2013
Have added them to the ones that we had showing Erich Weaver's set up.
If there are others of you who would like to add yours, let me know.
Go to the web site http://www.oh2fly.net and click on Camera Mounts
Fun, Safe Flying!
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George Alexander
FS II R503 N709FS
http://www.oh2fly.net
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Camera Mounts on Kolbs |
Go to the web site http://www.oh2fly.net and click on Camera Mounts
Fun, Safe Flying!
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George Alexander
George A/Kolbers:
You have an excellent web site. Thanks for your time and effort to come up
with a good web site.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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| Subject: | Re: Aligning landing gear |
| From: | JC Gilpin <j.gilpin(at)bigpond.com> |
I had attached a photo to that post, which shows up in my sent mail, but
doesn't appear in the post for some reason????
Anyhow, it's just a matter of removing both axles, and sliding a length of
1/2" hard-drawn copper pipe through from one side to the other. There's
enough flexibility in the pipe to handle the camber angles of the axles.
The pipe locks both gear legs to a straight ahead position, or by forcing
the center of the pipe a bit back you can set for a slight toe-in, equal on
both sides.
JG
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| Subject: | Re: Aligning landing gear |
| From: | "Larlaeb" <larlaeb(at)gmail.com> |
Picture came through fine for me.
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| Subject: | Re: Camera Mounts on Kolbs |
| From: | Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com> |
George, I built this camera mount for my Mk III and used it to make several
videos. It looks flimsy but it holds the camera nice and steady. The
turnbuckles give very fine adjustment to get just the right view out of the
cockpit. You can see the results at rick51076 on You Tube.
Rick Girard
On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 1:43 PM, George Alexander wrote:
>
> Kolbers:
>
> Have been enjoying Larry Cottrell's videos from his part of the country,
> both content and quality.
> Asked Larry for images/descriptions of his camera mount so they could be
> put on my oh2fly.net web site for others to see.
> Have added them to the ones that we had showing Erich Weaver's set up.
> If there are others of you who would like to add yours, let me know.
> Go to the web site http://www.oh2fly.net and click on Camera Mounts
>
> Fun, Safe Flying!
>
> --------
> George Alexander
> FS II R503 N709FS
> http://www.oh2fly.net
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=399057#399057
>
>
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Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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| From: | "George T. Alexander, Jr." <gtalexander(at)att.net> |
| Subject: | Camera Mounts on Kolbs |
Rick:
Thanks for the pic. If you want and have additional images from further
back, different angle, etc. I would put them up on the site. I would also
add the link to youtube.
George
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Girard
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Camera Mounts on Kolbs
George, I built this camera mount for my Mk III and used it to make several
videos. It looks flimsy but it holds the camera nice and steady. The
turnbuckles give very fine adjustment to get just the right view out of the
cockpit. You can see the results at rick51076 on You Tube.
Rick Girard
On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 1:43 PM, George Alexander
wrote:
Kolbers:
Have been enjoying Larry Cottrell's videos from his part of the country,
both content and quality.
Asked Larry for images/descriptions of his camera mount so they could be put
on my oh2fly.net web site for others to see.
Have added them to the ones that we had showing Erich Weaver's set up.
If there are others of you who would like to add yours, let me know.
Go to the web site http://www.oh2fly.net and click on Camera Mounts
Fun, Safe Flying!
--------
George Alexander
FS II R503 N709FS
http://www.oh2fly.net
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| From: | William Long <blong6826(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | Stripped threads on tail nut. |
I noticed that my rudder was not straight up and down on my firefly so I
adjusted the left side looser and I was going to tighten the bottom nut as I
could see it was loose but the lines were still tight and when I removed the pin
it fell off. The threads were gone on the nut. The only thing holding my tail
was the safety pin. How tight should the cables be? I was told you should be
able to strum them. I will be getting a new set of nuts and bolts from Kolb.
Bill Long
UL 2 Firefly
Holt MI.
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Stripped threads on tail nut. |
Bill L/Kolbers:
That's a 3/16" bolt and nut. Not a whole lot of meat there.
Make sure when tightening the nut, not to go past the threaded portion of
the bolt. If the bolt is too long, it would be easy to do, and easy to
strip those tiny threads.
That bolt and nut are critical to flight safety. Probably prove
catastrophic if it failed in flight.
I personally like the tail wires tight. My Kolb flies better with tight
rather than loose wires.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of William Long
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 5:25 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Stripped threads on tail nut.
I noticed that my rudder was not straight up and down on my firefly so I
adjusted the left side looser and I was going to tighten the bottom nut as I
could see it was loose but the lines were still tight and when I removed the
pin it fell off. The threads were gone on the nut. The only thing holding
my tail was the safety pin. How tight should the cables be? I was told you
should be able to strum them. I will be getting a new set of nuts and bolts
from Kolb.
Bill Long
UL 2 Firefly
Holt MI.
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| From: | Dennis Rowe <rowedenny(at)windstream.net> |
Are there any Kolb drivers from Western PA, or Eastern OH heading to the homecoming
by air? Weather and Lord permitting, Linda and I are planning on leaving
Apollo PA around three pm on Thursday, stops are planned at Washington county
KAFJ, Cambridge CDI, Ohio university UNI, Ashland Regional DWU (hopefully over
night there) than finishing trip on Friday through Morehead Rowan M97, Montgomery
county IOB, and finally Chestnut Knolls. I am open to suggestion if anyone
has advice for adjusting the route and stops, pretty limited range with 10
gallon of fuel and a 2 stroke..
If the weather through the weekend even looks a little iffy, we'll be going by
car.
Dennis Skid Rowe
Mk3, 2si 690L
Cell: 724 882 6788
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| Subject: | Re: Stripped threads on tail nut. |
| From: | "Ralph B" <rstar447(at)gmail.com> |
Back in the old days I would use a wingnut on the tailpost and the flying wires
weren't too tight on my Firestar. I didn't want to use any tools in the setup
to make it easier. Over time, the tangs wore a groove in the sleeves and I could
see the wires weren't tight enough. I made new flying wires and started using
a nylock nut with a socket to tighten. It has to be loose enough to bring
the tangs together at the bottom, yet tight enough when the nut is tightened.
The wires aren't drum tight, but secure enough to avoid vibrating and wearing
the sleeves. I still fold the wings every time I fly it.
Since the Kolbra is hangered, its flying wires are tighter and it has turnbuckles
to tighten.
Ralph B
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Ralph B
Original Firestar 447
N91493 E-AB
1000+ hours
26 years flying it
Kolbra 912ULS
N20386
200 hours
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| From: | Malcolm Brubaker <brubakermal(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | sun fun was a blast |
sun fun was a blast. the roto craft flew with fixed wing on the paradise ci
ty run way and we launched helicopters from the same runway as well, some c
hopers stayed down on the old- runway becouse they- wher- to large fo
r our pattern, john moody flew several times in his =0Aeagil and easy riser
. we had almost 50 vendors on our side-for the first time in several year
s.=0A-atandance was better than last year. they cut back on Volinteres, t
his year-we had 50 less in paradise city. last year we had 3,200 total vo
linteres --14 people got service pins for 5 years 68 for 20 years and 1
9-for 30 years , next year will be the 40th anaversary and i know a coupl
e people that will get ther 40 year service pin.Volinteres make sun fun wor
k,and i cant wate to do it all agin next year.---=0A=0AMalcolm & Jean
ne Brubaker =0AMichigan Sport Pilot Repair =0Ahttp://michigansportpilotrep
air.com/ =0ALSRM-A, PPC, WS=0AGreat Sails - Sailmaker =0Afor Ultralight & L
ight Sport=0A(989)513-3022
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| From: | "Beauford " <beauford173(at)tampabay.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Stripped threads on tail nut. |
Ditto, Brother Ralph...
I used that wing-nut arrangement with a safety pin (per the plans) for the
first five or six years, then got to looking at it and
thinking about it... It was the only wing nut (besides me) on the whole
airplane, and even new a/n wingnuts never did seem to me to grip that
bolt quite as securely as a standard elastic stop nut. Plus, it was in a
location which was absolutely and positively certain to
ruin your whole tour if it failed. I feel a lot better with an elastic a/n
nut tightened with a wrench and regularly replaced
(along with the bolt) with a new one... Those wires sure make a nice
drumming sound when they are properly tightened.
Wondering.... Do the current plans still call for a wingnut ?
I, too, fold every time I fly, but thus far I have managed to always have
that happen afterwards.
Beauford
FF-076
Brandon, FL
-----Original Message-----
Re: Stripped threads on tail nut.
Back in the old days I would use a wingnut on the tailpost and the flying
wires weren't too tight on my Firestar. I still fold the wings every time I
fly it.
Ralph B
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | sun fun was a blast |
Volinteres make sun fun work,and i cant wate to do it all agin next year.
Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker
Malcolm B/Kolbers:
Volunteers are only part of what makes Sun and Fun work.
In the rush of commercial vendors, volunteers with their golf carts and
ATVs, most folks forget what Sun and Fun really is. To me, it is the people
who build airplanes in their garages, basements, small shops, hangers, then
fly them from wherever they live in the US to Lakeland to show other
aviation enthusiast the fruits of their labors. It is the same folks that
fly in with all their camping gear prepared to spend the week sleeping under
the wings of their home builts. This year, as the last several years, there
was 3 or 4 aircraft campers that flew into Paradise City during the entire
week. No problem. Sun and Fun planners put the aircraft campers at
Paradise City on the south side of the airstrip, completely away from the
spectators who came to see airplanes. No legal way for attendees to visit
the aircraft camping area.
I spoke with Pat Phillips, Sun and Fun Board Member, late one evening, who
happened to wander past my tent and airplane that was bedded down in the
Kolb Aircraft Company display area. He promised to see what could be done
about putting aircraft campers on the same side of the airstrip as the rest
of Paradise City.
Oshkosh did the same thing to us aircraft campers for many years. I
understand that has finally been changed.
Paradise City wouldn't be a flyin without the folks that fly in. Many of
the volunteers, from the head hog right on down, seem to forget that. If we
didn't fly in, it would be a drive in.
I chalked up my 30th consecutive attendance at Sun and Fun this year. Don't
know if I will make 31.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
Dennis R/Kolbers:
What is your range with two up and loaded as it will be for the flight to
London?
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
Are there any Kolb drivers from Western PA, or Eastern OH heading to the
homecoming by air? Weather and Lord permitting, Linda and I are planning on
leaving Apollo PA around three pm on Thursday, stops are planned at
Washington county KAFJ, Cambridge CDI, Ohio university UNI, Ashland Regional
DWU (hopefully over night there) than finishing trip on Friday through
Morehead Rowan M97, Montgomery county IOB, and finally Chestnut Knolls. I am
open to suggestion if anyone has advice for adjusting the route and stops,
pretty limited range with 10 gallon of fuel and a 2 stroke..
If the weather through the weekend even looks a little iffy, we'll be going
by car.
Dennis Skid Rowe
Mk3, 2si 690L
Cell: 724 882 6788
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| From: | WhiskeyVictor36(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Stripped threads on tail nut. |
Bill Long/Kolbers
Wondering if anyone ever tried enlarging the bolt to 1/4 inch? Would
probably weaken the vertical tail post at the point where the bolt goes through.
Bill Varnes
In a message dated 4/22/2013 6:44:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
blong6826(at)sbcglobal.net writes:
The threads were gone on the nut
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| Subject: | Re: sun fun was a blast |
| From: | Rick Neilsen <neilsenrm(at)gmail.com> |
John/All
I flew-in in my VW Powered Kolb and camped a number of times at Oshkosh
and once at Sun N Fun. We had some great times camping at Oshkosh. At the
high point we camped with fifty or more planes/campers. One year we flew in
as a flight of six with five Kolbs. The only real problem for us was the
crew that ran the strip didn't seem to want us there. There were no
port-o-lets or trash cans anywhere near the camp ground. One year I did the
unthinkable and got Tom Poberezny to place a few port-o-lets in the camp
ground. I got screamed at for that and was told to never come back. The
airport crew wouldn't let the suck trucks near the port-o-lets all week so
by the end of the week the port-o-lets were overflowing and the smell
was horrible. See they shouldn't be there. I have never been back, I let
the #@$$!$!!! win.
Anyway they closed the campground to plane camping and now you have to drag
your plane a minimum of a hundred yards from the strip to the camping area
and back. Is it better.......don't think so. Now no more than ten campers
are there. Problem solved.
A few years ago when I flew in and camped at Sun N Fun it did work well
camping on the north side of the runway. At that time there were only 5-6
plane campers. This year there was only one plane camper on the south side.
Maybe they are getting what they want also?
The only problem I ever heard of was that flyin campers took up to much
airspace from the vendors wanting to demo their planes. Follow the money?
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 10:15 PM, John Hauck wrote:
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> * *Volinteres make sun fun work,and i cant wate to do it all agin next
> year. ****
>
> ****
>
> Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> Malcolm B/Kolbers:****
>
> ** **
>
> Volunteers are only part of what makes Sun and Fun work.****
>
> ** **
>
> In the rush of commercial vendors, volunteers with their golf carts and
> ATVs, most folks forget what Sun and Fun really is. To me, it is the
> people who build airplanes in their garages, basements, small shops,
> hangers, then fly them from wherever they live in the US to Lakeland to
> show other aviation enthusiast the fruits of their labors. It is the
> same folks that fly in with all their camping gear prepared to spend the
> week sleeping under the wings of their home builts. This year, as the
> last several years, there was 3 or 4 aircraft campers that flew into
> Paradise City during the entire week. No problem. Sun and Fun planners
> put the aircraft campers at Paradise City on the south side of the
> airstrip, completely away from the spectators who came to see airplanes. No
> legal way for attendees to visit the aircraft camping area.****
>
> ** **
>
> I spoke with Pat Phillips, Sun and Fun Board Member, late one evening, who
> happened to wander past my tent and airplane that was bedded down in the
> Kolb Aircraft Company display area. He promised to see what could be
> done about putting aircraft campers on the same side of the airstrip as the
> rest of Paradise City.****
>
> ** **
>
> Oshkosh did the same thing to us aircraft campers for many years. I
> understand that has finally been changed. ****
>
> ** **
>
> Paradise City wouldn't be a flyin without the folks that fly in. Many of
> the volunteers, from the head hog right on down, seem to forget that. If
> we didn't fly in, it would be a drive in.****
>
> ** **
>
> I chalked up my 30th consecutive attendance at Sun and Fun this year. Don't
> know if I will make 31.****
>
> ** **
>
> john h****
>
> mkIII****
>
> Titus, Alabama****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> * *
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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| From: | Dennis Rowe <rowedenny(at)windstream.net> |
John,
Wind pretty much decides range, I plan for a maximum of 75 mile legs with reserve
but any legs that long have to have alternative fuel options.
The second planned leg of the Kolb trip is the longest at 70 miles and I should
know by then if the plan needs adjusted. Makes for a long trip stopping every
60 miles but that's life traveling in a recreational vehicle.
Skid Rowe
On Apr 22, 2013, at 10:44 PM, "John Hauck" wrote:
>
> Dennis R/Kolbers:
>
> What is your range with two up and loaded as it will be for the flight to
> London?
>
> john h
> mkIII
> Titus, Alabama
>
>
>
>
> Are there any Kolb drivers from Western PA, or Eastern OH heading to the
> homecoming by air? Weather and Lord permitting, Linda and I are planning on
> leaving Apollo PA around three pm on Thursday, stops are planned at
> Washington county KAFJ, Cambridge CDI, Ohio university UNI, Ashland Regional
> DWU (hopefully over night there) than finishing trip on Friday through
> Morehead Rowan M97, Montgomery county IOB, and finally Chestnut Knolls. I am
> open to suggestion if anyone has advice for adjusting the route and stops,
> pretty limited range with 10 gallon of fuel and a 2 stroke..
> If the weather through the weekend even looks a little iffy, we'll be going
> by car.
>
> Dennis Skid Rowe
> Mk3, 2si 690L
> Cell: 724 882 6788
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| From: | William Long <blong6826(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Stripped threads on tail nut. |
I plan to put two nuts on my new bolt this time. I don't ever fold it.
________________________________
From: "WhiskeyVictor36(at)aol.com" <WhiskeyVictor36(at)aol.com>
Sent: Mon, April 22, 2013 11:30:29 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Stripped threads on tail nut.
Bill Long/Kolbers
Wondering if anyone ever tried enlarging the bolt to 1/4 inch? Would probably
weaken the vertical tail post at the point where the bolt goes through.
Bill Varnes
In a message dated 4/22/2013 6:44:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
blong6826(at)sbcglobal.net writes:
The threads were gone on the nut
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Stripped threads on tail nut. |
Wondering if anyone ever tried enlarging the bolt to 1/4 inch? Would
probably weaken the vertical tail post at the point where the bolt goes
through.
Bill Varnes
Bill V/Kolbers:
I haven't had a problem using 3/16 on my MKIII with nyloc, being careful not
to over torque the little nut.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
Wind pretty much decides range, I plan for a maximum of 75 mile legs with
reserve but any legs that long have to have alternative fuel options.
The second planned leg of the Kolb trip is the longest at 70 miles and I
should know by then if the plan needs adjusted. Makes for a long trip
stopping every 60 miles but that's life traveling in a recreational vehicle.
Skid Rowe
Skid R/Kolbers:
There are times I would like to do 60 miles legs.
Normally, I try to fly 1.5 to 2.0 hour legs. As I get older, the legs get
shorter though.
I always tell folks that half the trip is meeting people on the ground. The
more I land, the more folks I meet.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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| Subject: | Re: Stripped threads on tail nut. |
| From: | Dennis Rowe <rowedenny(at)windstream.net> |
I use a full 3/16' castle nut and a safety ring, makes it easy and secure.
Denny Skid Rowe
On Apr 23, 2013, at 7:34 AM, "John Hauck" wrote:
>
> Wondering if anyone ever tried enlarging the bolt to 1/4 inch? Would prob
ably weaken the vertical tail post at the point where the bolt goes through.
>
> Bill Varnes
>
>
>
> Bill V/Kolbers:
>
> I haven't had a problem using 3/16 on my MKIII with nyloc, being careful n
ot to over torque the little nut.
>
> john h
> mkIII
> Titus, Alabama
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: sun fun was a blast |
| From: | "Ralph B" <rstar447(at)gmail.com> |
At Oshkosh, they gave our camping area on the west side of the runway to the rotorcraft
folks. It was convenient for us ultralight and Light Sport guys to camp
as it was out of the main flow of traffic.
Ralph B
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Ralph B
Original Firestar 447
N91493 E-AB
1000+ hours
26 years flying it
Kolbra 912ULS
N20386
200 hours
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| Subject: | Re: Stripped threads on tail nut. |
| From: | Gary Aman <zeprep251(at)aol.com> |
I also fold the MK3 while in Florida so I kept the wing nut.Also use a slig
htly longer bolt and a spacer made of 3/16 I.D.steel tubing about 1/4 in.lo
ng that gets the wing nut out from under the tang so it's easier to tighten
and get the safety pin in .Also keep a little grease on the wing nut face
to make it easy to tighten and on ALL of the cable tangs to keep them from
wearing where they contact the thimbles.
G.Aman mk3c 790 hrs Jabiru 2200a
-----Original Message-----
From: Ralph B <rstar447(at)gmail.com>
Sent: Mon, Apr 22, 2013 8:54 pm
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Stripped threads on tail nut.
Back in the old days I would use a wingnut on the tailpost and the flying w
ires
weren't too tight on my Firestar. I didn't want to use any tools in the set
up to
make it easier. Over time, the tangs wore a groove in the sleeves and I cou
ld
see the wires weren't tight enough. I made new flying wires and started usi
ng a
nylock nut with a socket to tighten. It has to be loose enough to bring the
tangs together at the bottom, yet tight enough when the nut is tightened. T
he
wires aren't drum tight, but secure enough to avoid vibrating and wearing t
he
sleeves. I still fold the wings every time I fly it.
Since the Kolbra is hangered, its flying wires are tighter and it has
turnbuckles to tighten.
Ralph B
--------
Ralph B
Original Firestar 447
N91493 E-AB
1000+ hours
26 years flying it
Kolbra 912ULS
N20386
200 hours
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| Subject: | Re: Aligning landing gear |
| From: | Gary Aman <zeprep251(at)aol.com> |
The picture showed up here JG.Easy way to do it except for the 200.00 dolla
rs worth of copper tubing.
G.Aman
-----Original Message-----
From: JC Gilpin <j.gilpin(at)bigpond.com>
Sent: Mon, Apr 22, 2013 4:19 am
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Aligning landing gear
I had attached a photo to that post, which shows up in my sent mail, but do
esn't appear in the post for some reason????
Anyhow, it's just a matter of removing both axles, and sliding a length of
1/2" hard-drawn copper pipe through from one side to the other. There's eno
ugh flexibility in the pipe to handle the camber angles of the axles. The
pipe locks both gear legs to a straight ahead position, or by forcing the c
enter of the pipe a bit back you can set for a slight toe-in, equal on both
sides.
JG
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| From: | Bob Green <bgreen(at)bimi.org> |
| Subject: | RE: Kolb-List Digest: 8 Msgs - 04/23/13 |
Kolbers:
I used a piece of "ground" rod to align the landing gear on my MKIIIX. Available
at lumber yard and it is not expensive. Slides right into the opening where
the axles fit. It is strong enough to give good results. Could be used
for grounding a new house electrical system or that of a nice enclosed hangar.
:)
Looking to see every one at Kolb meeting in KY.
Bob Green
N830PB
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| From: | frank goodnight <frank.goodnight(at)att.net> |
Good morning Kolbers,
Has any one flying a 912uls had a problem with Rotax ASB-912-062.
I bought a used 800hr 912uls , and it looks like about every 5 hrs it soots up
both
plugs on only the # 2 cyl. Runs great and has a good mag drop -about a 100 Rpm.
However after about 5 hrs, When doing a cold start the #2 cyl is dead ,starts on
3 cyls
and shakes so bad that it shakes the left carb out of the socket before I can
get it shut down.
If i change out the top #2 cyl plug-everthing is great until the cycle repeats.
I don't think my engine Ser # 5643239 is included in the SB , however the plugs
Are fouled.
As this could cause me to cancel the planed trip to Rock House I really would
like to get this cleared up quickly.
1. As both #2 cyl plugs are involved and all other cyls plugs are ok the
problem may not involve the ignition system?
2. Hav not done a compression check yet . will do one soonest.
3. Only other thing I can think of , I had to cut up and reweld the exhaust,
could be
too much restriction in that one pipe?
Appreciate any Ideas , Don't wont to buy a new head unless I have to.
Frank
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
Has any one flying a 912uls had a problem with Rotax ASB-912-062.
I bought a used 800hr 912uls , and it looks like about every 5 hrs it soots
up both
plugs on only the # 2 cyl. Runs great and has a good mag drop -about a 100
Rpm.
Appreciate any Ideas , Don't wont to buy a new head unless I have to.
Frank
Frank G/Kolbers:
If I had that problem, I'd give Ronnie Smith, South Mississippi Light
Aircraft, a call. Ronnie has a lot of experience with 912 engines is a
ROTAX master repair facility.
(601) 508-6545
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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| From: | "George Bearden" <gab16(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | RE: Kolb-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 04/24/13 |
> it looks like about every 5 hrs it soots up
Have you done a compression check yet?
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Lee" <lmorgan100(at)charter.net> |
| Subject: | another Twinstar MK II landing gear question |
Hey all,
I have the MK II together and flying, still having landing gear problems.
It seems almost impossible to keep the wheels straight on my rough runway.
It is ok with 1 person but I put some weight in the second seat and it is
all over the runway.
Check the wheel alignment and it is out again. Original alignment was done
with the plane loaded with weight in both seats.
Is there a stronger gear that can be used or additional bracing to keep
things from coming out of alignment.
Maybe fiberglass landing gear like used on the CGS Hawk or also adding a
cable between the wheels to limit outward flex.
Any other ideas ?
thanks for any responses,
Lee
Twinstar MK II, CGS Hawk classic,
Vector and Goldwing.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart(at)onlyinternet.net> |
| Subject: | another Twinstar MK II landing gear question |
From: "Lee" <lmorgan100(at)charter.net>
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 07:12:50 -0400
>
Hey all,
..............
Is there a stronger gear that can be used or additional bracing to keep
things from coming out of alignment.
>
Lee,
Check out: http://jackbhart.com/firefly/firefly140.html
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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| From: | "racerjerry" <gki(at)suffolk.lib.ny.us> |
Are the plugs wet (oily) or dry (soot)?
--------
Jerry King
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
Moor sooty than oily , can't make up my mind if they look a little oily or
not , but
definitely not wet, or no oily carbon build up.Brushes off easily with a
bronze brush.
Thanks for your interest ,Jerry.
Frank
Two things come to mind:
-Enricher is leaking past the "O" rings.
-Carbs out of sync.
Thinking out loud.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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| From: | frank goodnight <frank.goodnight(at)att.net> |
John, and others that answered my request for help.
Talked to Ronnie Smith-- as per your suggestion--Thanks for his # He was really
informative and helpful.The gist of what he had to say , was-- That if a 912 is
not
tuned correctly or is run improperly # 2 cyl. will soot up, as it runs richer
and cooler than the
others. He said that this is normal in a out of tune engine!!. Said he thought
if I would
balance the carbs, set takeoff Rpm, service the gear box. replace the carb
mounting boots,
set the idle.and get the engine up to 1,800 to 2,000 Rpm as soon as possible
after
start up my problems would go away.
All this may seem obvious to those of you that run 912s But it's all new to
me.
The Kolb list has been a great comfort to me . Big pool of knowledge out there.
Seems like there is always someone that can suggest a solution to a problem, or
can
get you pointed in the right direction.Or put you in contact with someone that
can help. Hope someday i can repay the help i have received over the years.
Frank
________________________________
From: John Hauck <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Sent: Fri, April 26, 2013 8:42:13 AM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: 912uls
Moor sooty than oily , can't make up my mind if they look a little oily or not
,
but
definitely not wet, or no oily carbon build up.Brushes off easily with a bronze
brush.
Thanks for your interest ,Jerry.
Frank
Two things come to mind:
-Enricher is leaking past the "O" rings.
-Carbs out of sync.
Thinking out loud.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "racerjerry" <gki(at)suffolk.lib.ny.us> |
Hi Frank,
I typed this up before I viewed the suggestion by Ronnie Smith hopefully his cure
will take care of your problem and you can be on your way. If you should
need to dig further, the below info may help.
Before I begin, I must tell you that I do not have Rotax 4-cycle engine experience. Did you view this video? http://www.rotax-owner.com/all-videos/free-videos/417-asb912062 I agree that, on the surface, it does not appear that your S/N is affected by the bulletin, BUT
Soot is an indication that the sparkplug may not be firing. You need to see if
you are getting voltage to he plugs. The next time this problem occurs, take
two spare plugs, ground them to the engine case/ head (externally); swap plug
wires and see if you see a spark at the gap. You could remove one sparkplug
from each cylinder to keep the engine from firing and make the test less dangerous.
MAKE SURE THAT THE ALL SPARK PLUGS ARE GROUNDED or you might damage the
electronic ignition. You might electrically tie the plug bodies to the head using
safety wire. In any event, dont crank the engine with plug wires hanging
loose.
Often, when an ignition coil is failing (cracked), temperature will make a difference
in whether the affected plugs fire or not. If no spark is present, then
maybe you can swap wires or coil with another cylinder to pin down the problem.
Keep in mind that the BEST troubleshooting method for electrical problems
is SUBSTITUTION. See if you can move the problem around to another cylinder.
Are the deposits bridging the sparkplugs gap? Is it obvious? If so, it may still
be oil fouling. The SB talks about a machining error in that the intake spring
seat could have been machined too deep, causing a small hole and exposing
the intake port in the cylinder head to oil present at the valve cover area.
The SB provides a simplistic test to check for leakage by just checking for
plug fouling. Another way of testing for leakage would be to make a cover plate
for the intake port and see if it could hold a vacuum (with intake valve closed).
Or just check visually inside the port for a hole it would be adjacent
to the spring seat pocket (bottom of spring).
Other areas where oil could enter are through a bad (cracked / broken / missing)
intake valve seal or past a broken piston ring. A borescope check of the cylinder
might reveal deep vertical lines indicative of a broken ring. Have you
performed a compression test? Absolute numbers wont mean much, but comparing
results with other cylinders may help identify the problem.
Good Luck,
--------
Jerry King
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| Subject: | Aircraft Financing |
| From: | Brad Nation <nationcap(at)comcast.net> |
I'm in the market for a used Kolb and am exploring all financing options as I unfortunately
don't have that kind of cash sitting around. What better place to
ask than my hopefully soon to be fellow Kolbers. So a few questions:
1. How did you finance your airplane?
2. If it was through an aircraft financing company, which one?
3. How was the experience?
4. Lessons learned (or suggestions)?
Thanks in advance,
Sent from my iPad
Brad
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Lee" <lmorgan100(at)charter.net> |
boyd,
Thanks for the response,
My main problem now is that the landing gear keeps bending, just from going
up and down the runway.
It bends in the tapered portion of the aluminum legs, Is this taper for a
reason other than weight ?
I have been thinking about making adapters to put 1 1/2 inch fiberglass in
place of the aluminum, also going to try cable bracing on the existing legs.
I have a couple of dips in the runway that are not to kind to week landing
gear.
I don't own the property and the land owner for some reason doesn't want me
to do anything to it to smooth it out.
He also uses the surrounding field for hay.
I have a CGS hawk single place that has fiberglass landing gear and it
handles the dip fine.
thanks,
Lee
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | frank goodnight <frank.goodnight(at)att.net> |
Hi Lee,
Hope you don't mind my butting in and adding my 2 cents worth.I had the same
problem with my firestar. I weigh 235lb.and just a short taxi over moderatly
rough ground would
bend the alum gear. After talking to Larry Cottrel out in Oregon and Travis at
the kolb
factory, I bought some 4130 tubing from aircraft spruce I don't remember the the
size
or wall thickness( I'm sure Larry or Travis has that and the heat treat #) and
had it
heat treated to make it springy. Kolb will tell you the down side of this change
is if you have a
really rough landing you will bend the cage but that the soft alum gear is
designed to bend and
save the cage, be that as it may after 200 hrs and plenty of MUCH less than
perfect
landings, lots of them off airport, my gear is still as good as new and my cage
is fine.
Hope this helps.
Frank Goodnight
HKS engine
chrome molly landing gear
________________________________
From: Lee <lmorgan100(at)charter.net>
Sent: Sat, April 27, 2013 6:51:14 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: alignment
boyd,
Thanks for the response,
My main problem now is that the landing gear keeps bending, just from going up
and down the runway.
It bends in the tapered portion of the aluminum legs, Is this taper for a reason
other than weight ?
I have been thinking about making adapters to put 1 1/2 inch fiberglass in place
of the aluminum, also going to try cable bracing on the existing legs.
I have a couple of dips in the runway that are not to kind to week landing gear.
I don't own the property and the land owner for some reason doesn't want me to
do anything to it to smooth it out.
He also uses the surrounding field for hay.
I have a CGS hawk single place that has fiberglass landing gear and it handles
the dip fine.
thanks,
Lee
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Fwd: Flight to Louse Canyon- Part I |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 7:35 PM, Larry Cottrell wrote:
> http://vimeo.com/64928930 Password- owyheeflyer
>
> This is a two part video of a flight that I made this morning. I have to
> admit that the geography here is still a bit confusing, and I may have
> gotten some of the names wrong. The weather for a change was almost late
> spring like. It was 59 and fairly light winds this morning. The flight was
> an hour and 6 minutes and I burned about 4 gallons. It would be nice to be
> able to fly this area in the middle of the day when the sun would hit the
> bottom of some of these canyons, but I am afraid that it would be a bit
> more excitement than I am willing to endure just so you can see the area.
> Part two is in the making and will be posted later tonight.
> Larry
>
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>
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| Subject: | Fwd: Louse Canyon Part II |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
------------------------------
*From: *"Cottrell, Larry" <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>
*Sent: *Saturday, April 27, 2013 12:13:33 AM
*Subject: *Louse Canyon Part II
http://vimeo.com/64932416 Password- owyheeflyer
Here is part II of today's flight. The names of places on the maps may or
may not be the same as the ones known to the locals. In other words I may
have some of the place names a bit off.
Larry
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| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 7:23 AM, frank goodnight wrote:
> Hi Lee,
> Kolb will tell you the down side of this change is if you have a
> really rough landing you will bend the cage but that the soft alum gear is
> designed to bend and
> save the cage.
>
================================================================
Having lots of experience in bending landing gear, I believe that I might
be an exdribble in the matter. (Not quite enough to qualify for exspurt
quite yet. ) I think it might be the only case wherein Kolb has misjudged
the damage factor between alum crumbling and causing a wreck, and spring
steel causing malformation of the cage.
One of my mishaps involved bending the landing gear far enough that the
wheel turned, (Dropped it about 5 feet over a fence with the early smaller
gear legs) and threw me into a ditch. The cage definitely bent and not from
the impact.
I have several times on a landing that I thought wasn't all that bad, ( for
me at least) actually had enough compression that it would close the Master
switch. ( It was a pull switch mounted flat)
I got tired of the alum gear and managed to obtain a set of 4130 legs
tempered to 46-48 Rockwell, and found that the spring of the 36 inch legs
is a lot easier on the plane than the alum. If you hit hard, the spring of
the legs will cushion a lot of the jolt, which I never found to be so with
the Alum legs. Of course there is about a foot more leg sticking out than
the alum and that would also be a factor.
I am sure that my landings have gotten a bit better, but I have not bent
anything nor shut off any switches since changing over.
I believe that Travis could help you out with a set, and my opinion is that
it is definitely worth the effort and cost.
Larry
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Fwd: Louse Canyon Part II |
Lovely work Larry. Thanks
Pat
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Charlie England <ceengland7(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Aircraft Financing |
On 04/27/2013 01:42 AM, Brad Nation wrote:
>
> I'm in the market for a used Kolb and am exploring all financing options as I
unfortunately don't have that kind of cash sitting around. What better place
to ask than my hopefully soon to be fellow Kolbers. So a few questions:
> 1. How did you finance your airplane?
> 2. If it was through an aircraft financing company, which one?
> 3. How was the experience?
> 4. Lessons learned (or suggestions)?
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> Brad
>
I'm not much for borrowing money to pay for toys. But if that floats
your boat, two thoughts:
1. Use other collateral. House (shudder...), paid for vehicle, boat,
etc. Nothing paid for? See 1st sentence.
2. Your local credit union. When I was...um...less militant about
borrowing for toys, I borrowed from my company credit union for an RV-4.
They gave me the same rate as for a motor home or camping trailer. They
will, of course, require an appraisal to establish value of the plane
and hull insurance on the plane. See 1st sentence.
Charlie
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Fwd: Louse Canyon Part II |
| From: | "Ralph B" <rstar447(at)gmail.com> |
Very good video Larry. Very desolate country with few roads. It seems you have
lived there for awhile. How far is the nearest town and how large is it?
Ralph B
--------
Ralph B
Original Firestar 447
N91493 E-AB
1000+ hours
26 years flying it
Kolbra 912ULS
N20386
200 hours
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| Subject: | Re: Fwd: Louse Canyon Part II |
| From: | "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
Larry,
I'm not know for giving high praise but I gotta tell you, the Louse Canyon, Part
2 was the best video yet, among a bunch of really good ones. You could/should
hire yourself out for lectures on the flora/fauna/geology etc of the area. Your
videos speak for themselves with the commentary adding so much, an excellent
choice of background music.
Very much appreciated.
--------
Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
no engine
FOR SALE
Diamond Katana DA20-A1
Rotax 912 F3
Don't worry about old age... it doesn't last very long.
- Anonymous
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| Subject: | Re: Fwd: Louse Canyon Part II |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
My address is Jordan Valley, and it is 52 miles away. :-) JV is about 400
at the most. We go to Boise Id to shop and it is 118 miles to the nearest
Wally World. Before I bought this place I at first thought that it might be
too remote, but it isn't. Of course that depends on how high the gas prices
get as well, but a country boy will survive.
Larry
On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Ralph B wrote:
>
> Very good video Larry. Very desolate country with few roads. It seems you
> have lived there for awhile. How far is the nearest town and how large is
> it?
>
> Ralph B
>
> --------
> Ralph B
> Original Firestar 447
> N91493 E-AB
> 1000+ hours
> 26 years flying it
>
> Kolbra 912ULS
> N20386
> 200 hours
>
>
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>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=399531#399531
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fwd: Louse Canyon Part II |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
Thanks for the praise, I do appreciate it, but I think I will stay in
retirement. :-)
Larry
On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Thom Riddle wrote:
>
> Larry,
> I'm not know for giving high praise but I gotta tell you, the Louse
> Canyon, Part 2 was the best video yet, among a bunch of really good ones.
> You could/should hire yourself out for lectures on the flora/fauna/geology
> etc of the area. Your videos speak for themselves with the commentary
> adding so much, an excellent choice of background music.
>
> Very much appreciated.
>
> --------
> Thom Riddle
> Buffalo, NY (9G0)
>
> Kolb Slingshot SS-021
> no engine
> FOR SALE
>
> Diamond Katana DA20-A1
> Rotax 912 F3
>
> Don't worry about old age... it doesn't last very long.
> - Anonymous
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=399533#399533
>
>
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| From: | Brad Nation <nationcap(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Fwd: Flight to Louse Canyon- Part I |
Nice, again!
Thanks for sharing.
I've been send these to my Mom who's from Pendleton and she is enjoying
them. She said the watch these last two twice.
Brad
On Apr 27, 2013, at 10:18 , Larry Cottrell
wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 7:35 PM, Larry Cottrell
wrote:
> http://vimeo.com/64928930 Password- owyheeflyer
>
> This is a two part video of a flight that I made this morning. I have
to admit that the geography here is still a bit confusing, and I may
have gotten some of the names wrong. The weather for a change was almost
late spring like. It was 59 and fairly light winds this morning. The
flight was an hour and 6 minutes and I burned about 4 gallons. It would
be nice to be able to fly this area in the middle of the day when the
sun would hit the bottom of some of these canyons, but I am afraid that
it would be a bit more excitement than I am willing to endure just so
you can see the area. Part two is in the making and will be posted later
tonight.
> Larry
>
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address before sending.
>
>
>
> --
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>
>
>
>
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>
>
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| From: | "Kirby, Dennis Civ USAF AFMC AFNWC/ENS" <Dennis.Kirby(at)kirtland.af.mil> |
Dennis Rowe wrote:
<< ... I plan for a maximum of 75 mile legs with reserve but any legs
that long have to have alternative fuel options. >>
Hey, Denny - welcome back to the List! Glad to hear you are still
flying your Mark-3.
With that kind of range, you'd be hard pressed to get too far in the
Western states, where we often must flight plan for MINIMUM of 150 miles
between fuel stops. For that reason, I bought the new "long range" gas
tanks from Travis, for my Mark-3. (6-gallon tanks, versus the stock
5-gallon tanks.) That now gives me a range of about 250 miles -
sufficient for my needs in the New Mexico/Arizona/Utah area.
(Although I'm sure the guys with the 20 and 25 gallon size tanks are
still chuckling at me!)
Have a safe flight to the Kolb Homecoming!
Dennis Kirby
Mark-3, 912ul
Sandia Park, NM
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "t41pilot" <t41pilot(at)frontier.com> |
It's finally warm enough in Michigan to think about flying. Hooked everything back
up that was disconnected for winterization and prepared to do battle with
the startup. Much to my surprise it started right up. Took just a couple of minutes
to blow the fogging oil out of it. The Weather is not right for flying
yet but I'd like to get the dirt off with a wash. I just finished it last fall
so it hasn't been washed at all yet so I'm looking for advice on proper techniques
and products to use since it is a fabric covered Aircraft. I read somewhere
that it was not ok to use the standard bucket of soap and rinse with the
hose since it would allow water to get into places where corrosion could get started.
Also I haven't put in drain holes in all the rib bays yet per plan. It
seems the plane would be littered with holes especially the ailerons. Are that
many holes really necessary? I have some Mr Clean car wash solution that you
are supposed to put in a sprayer and just spray it on and it just sheets right
off and dries clear with no residue just like their window wash stuff. I
thought about maybe just using a capful in a bucket to make a weak solution and
washing with a soft sponge or cloth and rinsing lightly with the hose. But
that flies in the face of one post I read somewhere. Any thoughts on this?
--------
Gregg Kaat
2011 Firefly
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| From: | Dennis Rowe <rowedenny(at)windstream.net> |
Hey Dennis,
glad to hear from you also. I'm still kicking around ideas to put larger fue
l capacity in my bird, thinking around 14 to 16 gallon, want to keep it down
low and put an external filler neck out the back but don't want to disturb t
he fabric. It's going to have to slide through behind the seats I guess.
I'm intrigued by the 80hp turbo HKS and its 3 gph fuel burn but they cost mo
re than I have in my entire plane! Still think when the kids get through co
llege Ill jump off the deep end on it. :-)
Skid Rowe
On Apr 30, 2013, at 12:25 PM, "Kirby, Dennis Civ USAF AFMC AFNWC/ENS" wrote:
> Dennis Rowe wrote:
>
> << I plan for a maximum of 75 mile legs with reserve but any le
gs that long have to have alternative fuel options. >>
>
> Hey, Denny =93 welcome back to the List! Glad to hear you are still
flying your Mark-3.
>
> With that kind of range, you=99d be hard pressed to get too far in t
he Western states, where we often must flight plan for MINIMUM of 150 miles b
etween fuel stops. For that reason, I bought the new =9Clong range
=9D gas tanks from Travis, for my Mark-3. (6-gallon tanks, versus the st
ock 5-gallon tanks.) That now gives me a range of about 250 miles =93
sufficient for my needs in the New Mexico/Arizona/Utah area.
>
> (Although I=99m sure the guys with the 20 and 25 gallon size tanks a
re still chuckling at me!)
>
> Have a safe flight to the Kolb Homecoming!
>
> Dennis Kirby
> Mark-3, 912ul
> Sandia Park, NM
>
>
>
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| From: | Dennis Rowe <rowedenny(at)windstream.net> |
Anything from dish soap to car wash soap in a bucket of water and sponge works
for me, keep the water flowing and go easy on the lexan. When I'm done and patted
dry, I hit the lexan with Plexus and a microfiber towel.
Skid Rowe
On Apr 30, 2013, at 1:03 PM, "t41pilot" wrote:
>
> It's finally warm enough in Michigan to think about flying. Hooked everything
back up that was disconnected for winterization and prepared to do battle with
the startup. Much to my surprise it started right up. Took just a couple of
minutes to blow the fogging oil out of it. The Weather is not right for flying
yet but I'd like to get the dirt off with a wash. I just finished it last fall
so it hasn't been washed at all yet so I'm looking for advice on proper techniques
and products to use since it is a fabric covered Aircraft. I read somewhere
that it was not ok to use the standard bucket of soap and rinse with the
hose since it would allow water to get into places where corrosion could get
started. Also I haven't put in drain holes in all the rib bays yet per plan.
It seems the plane would be littered with holes especially the ailerons. Are
that many holes really necessary? I have some Mr Clean car wash solution that
you are supposed to put in a sprayer and just spray i!
> t on and it just sheets right off and dries clear with no residue just like
their window wash stuff. I thought about maybe just using a capful in a bucket
to make a weak solution and washing with a soft sponge or cloth and rinsing
lightly with the hose. But that flies in the face of one post I read somewhere.
Any thoughts on this?
>
> --------
> Gregg Kaat
> 2011 Firefly
>
>
>
>
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| From: | Brad Nation <nationcap(at)comcast.net> |
I use one of these on my car and don't have to dry it off nor worry about an
y water spots even with the very hard water we have here in New Mexico as th
e final rise water is filtered. The soap is designed for use with this syste
m.
http://www.amazon.com/Mr-Clean-AutoDry-System-Starter/dp/B0006M56CE
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Brad
On Apr 30, 2013, at 12:17, Dennis Rowe wrote:
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> Anything from dish soap to car wash soap in a bucket of water and sponge w
orks for me, keep the water flowing and go easy on the lexan. When I'm done a
nd patted dry, I hit the lexan with Plexus and a microfiber towel.
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> Skid Rowe
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> On Apr 30, 2013, at 1:03 PM, "t41pilot" wrote:
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>> It's finally warm enough in Michigan to think about flying. Hooked everyt
hing back up that was disconnected for winterization and prepared to do batt
le with the startup. Much to my surprise it started right up. Took just a c
ouple of minutes to blow the fogging oil out of it. The Weather is not righ
t for flying yet but I'd like to get the dirt off with a wash. I just finish
ed it last fall so it hasn't been washed at all yet so I'm looking for advic
e on proper techniques and products to use since it is a fabric covered Airc
raft. I read somewhere that it was not ok to use the standard bucket of soap
and rinse with the hose since it would allow water to get into places where
corrosion could get started. Also I haven't put in drain holes in all the r
ib bays yet per plan. It seems the plane would be littered with holes espec
ially the ailerons. Are that many holes really necessary? I have some Mr Cl
ean car wash solution that you are supposed to put in a sprayer and just spr
ay!
> i!
>> t on and it just sheets right off and dries clear with no residue just l
ike their window wash stuff. I thought about maybe just using a capful in a
bucket to make a weak solution and washing with a soft sponge or cloth and r
insing lightly with the hose. But that flies in the face of one post I read s
omewhere. Any thoughts on this?
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>> 2011 Firefly
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| From: | kinne russ <russk50(at)gmail.com> |
List, I need some advice. HOPEfully I can get a Kolb soon -- and I'll need insurance,
at least not-in-motion coverage. Doubt I could get more than that as I
have almost no Kolb experience; but do have a fair amount of GA flying. I am licensed
and have a current class 2 physical. Do I need to join an ass'n? If so,
which one would you recommend?
Your comments will be much appreciated.
Fair winds,
Russ K
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| From: | "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
Russ,
You can get liability only insurance via USUA if you are a member and it is the
cheapest I've found. I did that for awhile then decided I needed hull coverage
for ground ops and when parked. I got liability plus "not-in-flight" hull insurance
from Falcon Insurance, the agency that EAA has a relationship with. The
"not-in-flight" hull insurance covers damage incurred while parked or taxiing
but ends when you start your take-off roll and resumes after the landing roll
ends under full control and you are merely taxiing. It is a lot cheaper than
full hull coverage in flight.
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Don't worry about old age... it doesn't last very long.
- Anonymous
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| From: | "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart(at)onlyinternet.net> |
>
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I thought about maybe just using a capful in a bucket to make a weak
solution and washing with a soft sponge or cloth and rinsing lightly with
the hose. But that flies in the face of one post I read somewhere. Any
thoughts on this?
>
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Gregg,
I was washing with a water bucket, soap and a rag and drying with lots of old
cloth bath towels. No fun. Then a I asked a hangar mate how he kept his
plane looking so good. He used a spray bottle, water and paper towels. I
mist the desired area and then wipe it down with a paper towel. The water
and the dust stay in the towel. Then I spray the same area again and wipe
it the second time with a clean towel to remove the last bit of dust and
this towel gets used for the next new dusty area to be sprayed.
Using this technique I can wash the upper horizontal surfaces and nose cone
with less that a quart of water and two dozen square paper towels.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
I was washing with a water bucket, soap and a rag and drying with lots of
old cloth bath towels. No fun. Then a I asked a hangar mate how he kept his
plane looking so good. He used a spray bottle, water and paper towels
Jack B. Hart
Folks:
A quart of water and a dozen paper towels? Now that is frugal.
john h
mkIII - 3218.8 hours
912ULS - 650.3 hours
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Flight to South Mississippi Light Aircraft |
Morning Folks:
Recently developed a slight oil ooze at the base of my #1 cylinder. Made
arrangements with Ronnie Smith, SMLA, while at Sun and Fun this year, to
have it fixed.
Flew down to Lucedale, MS, Monday afternoon. Spent the night in Ronnie's
shop so would be ready to work on the 912ULS first thing Tuesday morning.
Morning ground fog and clouds would have prevented me from departing my air
strip until 1000 or 1100. Discovered an o ring on a cylinder stud was
leaking because it was losing torque. Took about 2 hours from start to
finish. A run up on the ground, then a short test flight, and Miss P'fer
was good to go. We were back home by 1300.
It's about 200 miles one way. Took 2.5 hours each way. Burned 5 gph on the
button at 5,200 rpm and 85 mph IAS. Ground speed was in the mid 90's both
ways at 6,500 and 7,500 feet. Beautiful flying weather. Flew on top of a
broken layer of small fluffy white clouds down and back.
Terrain is very boring. Like flying to Lakeland, FL. Flat land and trees.
Can't wait to head West in June. Despite the wind and weather, the terrain
makes up for it. A beautiful place to fly.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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| From: | "Thumper" <dlong1957(at)yahoo.com> |
Here is an Insurer that might let you get in flight as well. http://aggressiveaviation.com/ . Keeping the story short, EAA Falcon insurance (Global was the underwriter) gave me a rate, then I called Kimmel insurance in MS (known for crop dusting insurance) and they got me in flight at over $1000 less than Falcon. From $2600 down to $1500 but with a $250-500 deductible. Works for me. As for Avemco forget it. Call Kimmel Insurance at Kimmel Aviation Insurance Agency, Inc. 442 Airport Road, Greenwood, MS 38930 1-800-647-9397
OR mayby deal with Aggressive directly. http://aggressiveaviation.com/
They even worked with a friend of mine that had no time in a Titan II get it covered
for his CFI and transition training. This was just after he totaled his
previous airplane, a 701 Zenith
Might be worth a call
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Dennis Long
Oakland TN
2000 Aeroprakt A20 Vista Cruiser
Previously Kolb Mark IIIC, 94 Firestar, 84 Ultrastar.
600+hours since 1/1/2009
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| From: | "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart(at)onlyinternet.net> |
John,
I do not want to leave a false impression.
>
Using this technique I can wash the upper horizontal surfaces and nose cone
with less that a quart of water and two dozen square paper towels.
>
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
I do not want to leave a false impression.
>
Using this technique I can wash the upper horizontal surfaces and nose cone
with less that a quart of water and two dozen square paper towels.
>
Jack B. Hart FF004
I'm sure it can be done.
Back in the early 1960's, those German nationals that could afford a little
VW, Fiat 500, BMW 500, etc., could wash them with a small bucket of water.
Don't remember seeing folks lucky enough to have a water hose.
I used to carry a quart squirt bottle of Windex and a couple bath towels to
clean the bugs off my airplanes when I got to flyins. Now I looks for small
rain showers to knock off the bugs. ;-)
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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| From: | Tim Bjork <tdbjork(at)gmail.com> |
Hi Guys, I think I have my Kolb FireStar 11 sold and would like to have the
buyer sign some kind of document that basically releases me of all
reliability of this aircraft. What I have now is nothing so anything would
be better then that. so please send me what you have to my e-mail.
tdbjork(at)gmail.com
Thanks in advance,,, Tim
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| Subject: | Re: Release Form |
| From: | "Rex Rodebush" <jrrodebush(at)gmail.com> |
If you are an EAA member there are several articles on selling you plane / liability
protection, etc. on the Homebuilders section at their website.
Rex
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| Subject: | Re: Release Form |
| From: | Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com> |
Tim, I'll tell you what the lawyer told me about releases. "No one can sign
away the rights of another". Your buyer can sign anything you can create
and it won't apply to his wife and kids.
Get a recommendation from a lawyer referral group and go pay someone who
knows the laws in your state.
Rick Girard
On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 1:23 PM, Tim Bjork wrote:
> Hi Guys, I think I have my Kolb FireStar 11 sold and would like to have
> the buyer sign some kind of document that basically releases me of all
> reliability of this aircraft. What I have now is nothing so anything would
> be better then that. so please send me what you have to my e-mail.
> tdbjork(at)gmail.com
>
> Thanks in advance,,, Tim
>
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Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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| Subject: | Re: Release Form |
| From: | "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
In addition to whatever release form you get, you could always disassemble it and
sell it to him as "Aircraft parts, sold separately, in non-flying condition."
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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Hebrews 11:1
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| From: | "t41pilot" <t41pilot(at)frontier.com> |
I have a lot of Black in my paint scheme and I was concerned about any products
that might leave a residue and show up against the Black. Also It is my understanding
that Polytone paint is not that sturdy and any strong soaps might dull
it. I ended up washing with a mild solution of the Mr Clean stuff I had and
then used a chamois after a rinse. A lot of elbow grease as Jack had suggested
but it turned out good. A spray bottle to take care of bugs. Hopefully I'll only
have to do that a couple times a year and a spray bottle in between. I didn't
see any comments about drain holes in the rib bays. Do all you guys out there
have those in place on your aircraft?
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Gregg Kaat
2011 Firefly
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
I didn't see any comments about drain holes in the rib bays. Do all you
guys out there have those in place on your aircraft?
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Gregg Kaat
Gregg K/Kolbers:
I use Blue Corral or Turtle Wax Car Wash with lots of water and a 5 gal
bucket. A long handle RV brush and a hand wash mitt get the job done.
Commercial car wash helps prevent streaking.
I have drain holes in everything, at their low point, when the MKIII is
sitting in its normal 3 point position .
My airplane is over 21 years old. No problems with corrosion.
I also use tube seal in 4130 tubing when I build my airplanes.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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| From: | Stephen Spence <sspence801(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Release Form |
Tim:=0A=0A=C2-=C2-=C2- This is what I used, first, some time I ago.
=C2- I modified it to work on a =0Asubsequent sale of my Mk3X-tra.=C2-
Hope it helps.=0A=0ASteve Spence=0AFormer Kolb owner=0AAuburn Hills, MI=0A
=0APURCHASE AGREEMENT and LIABILITY RELEASE=0AAircraft flying is an activit
y that is potentially very dangerous and could =0Aresult in serious injury,
paralysis, permanent disfigurement or DEATH. EACH =0APILOT OR PARTICIPANT,
REGARDLESS OF EXPERIENCE, ASSUMES TOTAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR =0AHIS OR HER O
WN SAFETY. Description of ultra-light aircraft/vehicle=0A1995 Kolb FireFly
, single seat serial number FF013, White with red/black =0Astripes on wings
. Engine: Rotax 447 single carburetor, single ignition, recoil =0Astart=0AG
as tank capacity: 5 gallons.=0ABRS brand parachute which is in need of both
re-packing and rocket motor =0Areplacement.Consideration:=0ATotal sales pr
ice of ultra-light aircraft/vehicle is $9,000.00 (Nine thousand =0Aand no/1
00 dollars)due and payable at time of sale in cash or certified funds =0Aan
d this executed purchase agreement and liability release. =0A=0APrice does
not include the 24' enclosed Classic Dominator trailer which is being =0Apu
rchased separately.=0ABuyer, a single man, understands that the aircraft/ve
hicle being purchased has =0Abeen constructed by non-professionals from non
-certified parts and materials, =0Athat there has not and never will be any
certification of "airworthiness" by any =0Agovernment agency or other auth
ority. Buyer acknowledges that hidden defects may =0Aexist in this or any a
ircraft, and that an independent inspection by a qualified =0Aperson is the
right and responsibility of the buyer. Buyer also understands that =0Awhil
e the current regulations may not require any certification or training to
=0Afly aircraft/vehicles of this type, adequate training is an absolutely e
ssential =0Ain order to safely operate this machine. Buyer also understands
that ultra-light =0Aaircraft/vehicles have distinct flying characteristics
different from those of =0Ageneral aviation aircraft. Buyer promises to se
cure the requisite ultra-light =0Aspecific training prior to attempting any
flight with this aircraft. Buyer =0Aagrees that there is no warranty, expr
ess, written or implied. Buyer releases, =0Aforever discharges and holds se
ller harmless from any and all claims, demands, =0Adamages, actions, causes
of action, or suits for all injuries, losses, and =0Adamages to buyer or o
thers resulting from use or operation of this ultra-light =0Aaircraft/vehic
le. Buyer further indemnifies seller for any and all claims, =0Ademands, da
mages, actions, causes of action or suits for injuries, losses and =0Adamag
es to buyer or others resulting from or arising out of use or operation of
=0Athis ultra-light aircraft/vehicle. Buyer, a single man, agrees that this
=0Apurchase agreement and liability release is binding upon his heirs and
assigns =0Aor any future spouse as well and that the terms of this release
are contractual =0Aand not mere recital. Buyer declares and represents that
no promise, inducement =0Aor other agreement, not expressed in this docume
nt has been made to the Buyer =0Aconcerning the condition, flight character
istics or operation of this =0Aultra-light aircraft/vehicle and that this a
greement contains the entire between =0Athe Buyer and Seller. =0A=0A=E3
=0ABuyer=99s signature_______________________ Seller=99s sig
nature_____________________=0ADate:____________________ Date:______________
_______=0A:=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Tim Bjork <
tdbjork(at)gmail.com>=0ATo: kolb-list(at)matronics.com=0ASent: Wed, May 1, 2013 2
:29:21 PM=0ASubject: Kolb-List: Release Form=0A=0A=0AHi Guys, I think I hav
e my Kolb FireStar 11 sold and would like to have the =0Abuyer sign some ki
nd of document that basically releases me of all reliability =0Aof this air
craft. What I have now is nothing so anything would be better then =0Athat.
so please send me what you have to my e-mail. =C2- tdbjork(at)gmail.com=0A
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| From: | herb <herbgh(at)nctc.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Release Form |
Good as any...but no form keeps one out of court...and from hiring a
lawyer...at that point one has lost...considerable sums...herb
On 05/02/2013 10:24 AM, Stephen Spence wrote:
> Tim:
> This is what I used, first, some time I ago. I modified it to
> work on a subsequent sale of my Mk3X-tra. Hope it helps.
> Steve Spence
> Former Kolb owner
> Auburn Hills, MI
>
> *PURCHASE AGREEMENT and LIABILITY RELEASE*
>
> Aircraft flying is an activity that is potentially very dangerous and
> could result in serious injury, paralysis, permanent disfigurement or
> *DEATH*. EACH PILOT OR PARTICIPANT, REGARDLESS OF EXPERIENCE, ASSUMES
> TOTAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR HIS OR HER OWN SAFETY.
>
> **
>
> *Description of ultra-light aircraft/vehicle*:
>
> 1995 Kolb FireFly , single seat serial number FF013, White with
> red/black stripes on wings. Engine: Rotax 447 single carburetor,
> single ignition, recoil start
>
> Gas tank capacity: 5 gallons.
>
> BRS brand parachute which is in need of both re-packing and rocket
> motor replacement.
>
> *
>
> Consideration:
>
> *
>
> Total sales price of ultra-light aircraft/vehicle is $9,000.00 (Nine
> thousand and no/100 dollars)due and payable at time of sale in cash or
> certified funds and this executed purchase agreement and liability
> release.
>
> Price does not include the 24' enclosed Classic Dominator trailer
> which is being purchased separately.
>
> Buyer, a single man, understands that the aircraft/vehicle being
> purchased has been constructed by non-professionals from non-certified
> parts and materials, that there has not and never will be any
> certification of "airworthiness" by any government agency or other
> authority. Buyer acknowledges that hidden defects may exist in this or
> any aircraft, and that an independent inspection by a qualified person
> is the right and responsibility of the buyer. Buyer also understands
> that while the current regulations may not require any certification
> or training to fly aircraft/vehicles of this type, adequate training
> is an absolutely essential in order to safely operate this machine.
> Buyer also understands that ultra-light aircraft/vehicles have
> distinct flying characteristics different from those of general
> aviation aircraft. Buyer promises to secure the requisite ultra-light
> specific training prior to attempting any flight with this aircraft.
> Buyer agrees that there is no warranty, express, written or implied.
> Buyer releases, forever discharges and holds seller harmless from any
> and all claims, demands, damages, actions, causes of action, or suits
> for all injuries, losses, and damages to buyer or others resulting
> from use or operation of this ultra-light aircraft/vehicle. Buyer
> further indemnifies seller for any and all claims, demands, damages,
> actions, causes of action or suits for injuries, losses and damages to
> buyer or others resulting from or arising out of use or operation of
> this ultra-light aircraft/vehicle. Buyer, a single man, agrees that
> this purchase agreement and liability release is binding upon his
> heirs and assigns or any future spouse as well and that the terms of
> this release are contractual and not mere recital. Buyer declares and
> represents that no promise, inducement or other agreement, not
> expressed in this document has been made to the Buyer concerning the
> condition, flight characteristics or operation of this ultra-light
> aircraft/vehicle and that this agreement contains the entire between
> the Buyer and Seller.
>
>
>
> Buyers signature_______________________ Sellers
> signature_____________________
>
> Date:____________________ Date:_____________________
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Tim Bjork
> *To:* kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> *Sent:* Wed, May 1, 2013 2:29:21 PM
> *Subject:* Kolb-List: Release Form
>
> Hi Guys, I think I have my Kolb FireStar 11 sold and would like to
> have the buyer sign some kind of document that basically releases me
> of all reliability of this aircraft. What I have now is nothing so
> anything would be better then that. so please send me what you have to
> my e-mail. tdbjork(at)gmail.com
>
> Thanks in advance,,, Tim
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| Subject: | Re: Release Form |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
You can chase this until kingdom come and there is no sure way to insure
that your butt will not be hanging out. The best bet is to not sell your
plane to an asshole. How you determine that is up to you. I have wrecked my
plane ( required repair) three times, and I have never complained to the
guy that built it once? Get him to sign the damn release and give him the
plane, or just burn it which ever makes you feel better.
Larry
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 11:28 AM, herb wrote:
> Good as any...but no form keeps one out of court...and from hiring a
> lawyer...at that point one has lost...considerable sums...herb
>
>
> On 05/02/2013 10:24 AM, Stephen Spence wrote:
>
> Tim:
>
> This is what I used, first, some time I ago. I modified it to work o
n
> a subsequent sale of my Mk3X-tra. Hope it helps.
>
> Steve Spence
> Former Kolb owner
> Auburn Hills, MI
>
>
> *PURCHASE AGREEMENT and LIABILITY RELEASE*
>
> Aircraft flying is an activity that is potentially very dangerous and
> could result in serious injury, paralysis, permanent disfigurement or *
> DEATH*. EACH PILOT OR PARTICIPANT, REGARDLESS OF EXPERIENCE, ASSUMES
> TOTAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR HIS OR HER OWN SAFETY.
> * *
>
> *Description of ultra-light aircraft/vehicle*:
>
> 1995 Kolb FireFly , single seat serial number FF013, White with red/black
> stripes on wings. Engine: Rotax 447 single carburetor, single ignition,
> recoil start
>
> Gas tank capacity: 5 gallons.
>
> BRS brand parachute which is in need of both re-packing and rocket motor
> replacement.
> *
>
> Consideration:
> *
>
> Total sales price of ultra-light aircraft/vehicle is $9,000.00 (Nine
> thousand and no/100 dollars)due and payable at time of sale in cash or
> certified funds and this executed purchase agreement and liability releas
e.
>
> Price does not include the 24' enclosed Classic Dominator trailer which i
s
> being purchased separately.
>
> Buyer, a single man, understands that the aircraft/vehicle being purchase
d
> has been constructed by non-professionals from non-certified parts and
> materials, that there has not and never will be any certification of
> "airworthiness" by any government agency or other authority. Buyer
> acknowledges that hidden defects may exist in this or any aircraft, and
> that an independent inspection by a qualified person is the right and
> responsibility of the buyer. Buyer also understands that while the curren
t
> regulations may not require any certification or training to fly
> aircraft/vehicles of this type, adequate training is an absolutely
> essential in order to safely operate this machine. Buyer also understands
> that ultra-light aircraft/vehicles have distinct flying characteristics
> different from those of general aviation aircraft. Buyer promises to secu
re
> the requisite ultra-light specific training prior to attempting any fligh
t
> with this aircraft. Buyer agrees that there is no warranty, express,
> written or implied. Buyer releases, forever discharges and holds seller
> harmless from any and all claims, demands, damages, actions, causes of
> action, or suits for all injuries, losses, and damages to buyer or others
> resulting from use or operation of this ultra-light aircraft/vehicle. Buy
er
> further indemnifies seller for any and all claims, demands, damages,
> actions, causes of action or suits for injuries, losses and damages to
> buyer or others resulting from or arising out of use or operation of this
> ultra-light aircraft/vehicle. Buyer, a single man, agrees that this
> purchase agreement and liability release is binding upon his heirs and
> assigns or any future spouse as well and that the terms of this release a
re
> contractual and not mere recital. Buyer declares and represents that no
> promise, inducement or other agreement, not expressed in this document ha
s
> been made to the Buyer concerning the condition, flight characteristics o
r
> operation of this ultra-light aircraft/vehicle and that this agreement
> contains the entire between the Buyer and Seller.
>
> Buyer=92s signature_______________________ Seller=92s
> signature_____________________
>
> Date:____________________ Date:_____________________
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Tim Bjork
> *To:* kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> *Sent:* Wed, May 1, 2013 2:29:21 PM
> *Subject:* Kolb-List: Release Form
>
> Hi Guys, I think I have my Kolb FireStar 11 sold and would like to have
> the buyer sign some kind of document that basically releases me of all
> reliability of this aircraft. What I have now is nothing so anything woul
d
> be better then that. so please send me what you have to my e-mail.
> tdbjork(at)gmail.com
>
> Thanks in advance,,, Tim
>
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| Subject: | 4/27/13 Kolbra video |
| From: | "Ralph B" <rstar447(at)gmail.com> |
Laurie and I took a flight last Saturday to Hutchinson for the fun of it. Here
is the video we took:
http://youtu.be/CZgjNEI7tR8
Ralph B
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Ralph B
Original Firestar 447
N91493 E-AB
1000+ hours
26 years flying it
Kolbra 912ULS
N20386
200 hours
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| Subject: | Re: 4/27/13 Kolbra video |
| From: | "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com> |
Nice Flight Video !
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Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents
the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
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| Subject: | New Kolb Firestar II frameless Canopy |
| From: | "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com> |
Wind Blast and Bird Strike protection made from 3/16" Makrolon.
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| Subject: | Two place intercoms |
| From: | Dennis Rowe <rowedenny(at)windstream.net> |
Looking for opinions on intercoms others are using. I may have a problem with
my Rugged radio intercom I recently purchased to use with my Icom A6, if I find
the problem is not in the Icom patch cord, I'm going to return the intercom
and try something else.
Thanks
Denny Skid Rowe
Mk3, 616DR
Western PA
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| From: | "b young" <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Two place intercoms |
I am using the sigtronics spo22N the N model is for the high noise
environment,,, it has an extra resistor inline to help keep the high
background noise at a lower level... but can make it harder to hear than
the spo 22 with the N model I have to have the mikes almost touching my
lips in order to make the vox system work. that way the speech to noise
level is at a better ratio.
boyd young
Subject: Kolb-List: Two place intercoms
Looking for opinions on intercoms others are using. I may have a problem
with my Rugged radio intercom I recently purchased to use with my Icom A6,
if I find the problem is not in the Icom patch cord, I'm going to return the
intercom and try something else.
Thanks
Denny Skid Rowe
Mk3, 616DR
Western PA
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| Subject: | Re: Two place intercoms |
| From: | "Ralph B" <rstar447(at)gmail.com> |
I bought a DRE Communications intercom model 205e from Aircraft Spruce. My nice
panel mount radio had a built-in full dupex intercom that was better, but it
got stolen with the engine two years ago. The DRE works pretty well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjKLkjYTei0
I use the Quiet Technologies headset with the earplugs. They are amazing at keeping
out the noise as you can see in the video.
http://www.quiettechnologies.com/
Ralph B
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Ralph B
Original Firestar 447
N91493 E-AB
1000+ hours
26 years flying it
Kolbra 912ULS
N20386
200 hours
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| From: | kinne russ <russk50(at)gmail.com> |
I'm trying to make some plans for a tent-like hangar for a Mark3Xtra. Can someone
tell me the overall dimensions of the aircraft?
Width, length & height w/a 2-bladed prop?
Will be much appreciated. Thanx
Russ K
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| From: | "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com> |
Found this old Firestar stashed in the back of a hangar. I'm just curious about
the landing gear wheels !?
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| Subject: | Re: Old Firestar |
| From: | "Ralph B" <rstar447(at)gmail.com> |
They are lower profile wheelbarrow tires. All Kolb Firestars came with wheelbarrow
tires. The ones in the picture would be less drag and give a slightly faster
cruise.
Ralph B
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Ralph B
Original Firestar 447
N91493 E-AB
1000+ hours
26 years flying it
Kolbra 912ULS
N20386
200 hours
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| From: | chris davis <capedavis(at)yahoo.com> |
Hi Kolbers , Just a question , has anyone ever tried a free air 377 on a Ko
lb ? or a 477 -or 503 free air ? I have a chance to buy on I am also wond
ering if the fan cooling shrouds and fan off a-Ski Doo-will fit an airc
raft 377 or are they the same engine ? Thanks Chrfis=0A-=0AChris Davis=0A
KXP 503 492 hrs=0AGlider Pilot=0ADisabled from crash building Firefly
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| From: | "wakataka" <wakataka(at)charter.net> |
Chris -
I have a fan cooled 377 from a 1992 Ski-Do and it has shrouds very similar to my
UL-377 except they are made of steel rather than aluminum. Also, there is hole
about 1.5" in diameter where a tube was connected to the shroud to deliver
fresh cooling into the muffler on the sled. It would be relatively easy to rivet
some sheet metal over this hole and then you could use the shroud on the UL
engine. The fan and all the mounting holes in the castings are the same. The
Ski-Do engine has the same internals, cylinders, and block as my UL engine but
the PTO end of the block is not machined to accept a gearbox. It has the provision
8 bolt holes, which aren't tapped. I've read that this case can be machined
to fit a gearbox, but of course it is verboten by Rotax.
I'd be a little skeptical about running free air but you might get away with it.
I see CHT of 350 degrees on climb out with fan cooled 377. I think you'd be
pushing red line with free air. The other drawback to free air is that it cools
down more during descent, so you have more risk of cold seizure. With fan cooling,
the engine stays warmer on a rapid descent at idle, such as when doing
touch and go practice. If you are careful about the way you fly it, you might
be able to get away with it. The 377 has a reputation of running cooler than the
other engines.
Martin B.
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There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale returns of
conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact.
Mark Twain
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| From: | <aoldman(at)xtra.co.nz> |
I flew behind a free air 503 for about 200 hours . The engine always
performed well. It did at one time suffer a reduction in power. That
problem proved to be a broken head stud. At that point I removed the
engine and replaced all the engine bearings and re ringed the engine as
it did not have any maintenance history . I sold the microlight about
150 hours after the overhaul. The new owner run it to 800 hrs. then
replaced it with a 582 . So in the right application free air works
fine. It did have a ram air system to the rear cylinder .
Regards
Tony
Downunder
MK111 503
From: chris davis
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 5:48 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: free air
Hi Kolbers , Just a question , has anyone ever tried a free air 377 on a
Kolb ? or a 477 or 503 free air ? I have a chance to buy on I am also
wondering if the fan cooling shrouds and fan off a Ski Doo will fit an
aircraft 377 or are they the same engine ? Thanks Chrfis
Chris Davis
KXP 503 492 hrs
Glider Pilot
Disabled from crash building Firefly
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| From: | "wakataka" <wakataka(at)charter.net> |
Tony - Just curious, was that in a tractor or pusher configuration? In other words,
did the engine have the benefit of the prop blast for cooling?
Martin B.
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There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale returns of
conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact.
Mark Twain
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| Subject: | Lift Reserve Indicator |
| From: | Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com> |
One of the members of my EAA chapter sent this to me for our newsletter.
After I put it in, I got to thinking it might be interesting for the Kolb
forum so I put it in a separate PDF.
Rick Girard
--
Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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| From: | <aoldman(at)xtra.co.nz> |
It was a tractor
-----Original Message-----
From: wakataka
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 3:15 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: free air
Tony - Just curious, was that in a tractor or pusher configuration? In other
words, did the engine have the benefit of the prop blast for cooling?
Martin B.
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There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale
returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact.
Mark Twain
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| Subject: | Re: Lift Reserve Indicator |
| From: | Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com> |
Jim sent me the info on the gauge he used. It's a "Minihelic" gauge from
Dwyer, dwyer-inst.com, The part no. is 2-5002.
Rick
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Richard Girard wrote:
> One of the members of my EAA chapter sent this to me for our newsletter.
> After I put it in, I got to thinking it might be interesting for the Kolb
> forum so I put it in a separate PDF.
>
> Rick Girard
>
> --
> Zulu Delta
> Mk IIIC
> Thanks, Homer GBYM
>
> It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
> - Groucho Marx
>
>
--
Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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| From: | "The Kuffels" <kuffel(at)cyberport.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Lift Reserve Indicator |
Boyd,
<< I don=99t see the need ... when I fly I like to see the
area I am flying over.. not fixate on a gauge >>
Of course, an AOA gauge is for use on approach, not cruise. It lets you
know exactly how close you are to stall independent of other factors.
So for typical aircraft attempting high performance landings (sandbars
for example), this gauge is very useful. However, agree for Kolbs you
don't need to execute a high performance landing to get into the
shortest of fields since the Kolb has such a low approach speed and high
drag anyway.
Tom Kuffel
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| Subject: | Protecting your assets |
| From: | "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com> |
Rather you fly a Kolb pusher or tractor type Sport Plane....when you fly in to
a grass strip for the first time, you may wish to "drag the field," or overly
the runway, to assess the conditions before committing yourself to landing. Grass
fields come in all shapes and sizes. Some may be sloping or tiered and even
have doglegs. They may have certain rough spots, and the conditions of the landing
surface usually changes throughout the year. Many aren't usable at all
during certain soggy or snowy months. [Always call ahead first] !
And remember that it will take a lot longer to get off the ground on wet tall
grass than on dry short grass. Watch for holes and rocks, and keep it rolling.
On a soggy surface, don't stop fully even for your run-up or you might get
stuck. And be careful where you do the run-up; there may be gravel or small
stones that could get picked up by the- props on some aircraft.
Bringing your airplane to earth on a soft field, like any other variable introduced
into your flying, does require some specialized techniques.
The RAF and it's 'Good Guy Law' have done their part to help make private strips
more accessible. Now as responsible private grass strip owners we must now do
our part to protect our guest sport plane pilots friends by providing as safe
a landing environment as possible; mowed. packed and well maintained.
Help us ,to help you to Land & Takeoff Responsibly
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| Subject: | Re: Lift Reserve Indicator |
| From: | "Rick Lewis" <cktman(at)wildblue.net> |
I have to admit I love gadget's as electronics have been my life. I have to say,
though , learn to fly your plane and feel what it's telling you when landing.
Looking at your airspeed is all you need to come home alive. Never paste
your face on the dashboard as you have to do when flying in instrument conditions....
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Rick Lewis
(VW Watercooled Engine)
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| Subject: | Re: landing gear alignment |
| From: | kinne russ <russk50(at)gmail.com> |
Jack B
As I recall you're in Indiana?
Waaal, I may be buying an Xtra in WI next week & flying it back to Maine. Could
I stop in & pick your brain a little? I know next to NOTHING about Kolbs! --
and you do.
Hope we can meet
Fair winds,
Russ K
On Mar 30, 2013, at 12:43 PM, Jack B. Hart wrote:
>
> From: "Lee" <lmorgan100(at)charter.net>
> Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 09:00:11 -0400
>
>>>
> My question is do you align your tires to be perfectly straight or do you
> toe the front in a little ?
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>
> Lee,
>
> Set the gear at zero toe in with your plane with what you consider your
> plane average or normal flight load.
>
> Roll the plane forward to let the gear settle and adjust camber so that the
> top of the wheel tips out a little at the top.
>
> If you make these adjustments you should have no trouble landing in a side
> slip during gusty cross winds on a hard surface runway.
>
> Jack B. Hart FF004
> Winchester, IN
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| Subject: | Re: Lift Reserve Indicator |
| From: | "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
Calculating the change in stall speed based on change in weight is pretty easy.
The stall speed changes with the square root of the change in flying weight,
all other things being equal.
Example:
Typical flying weight solo 900 lbs., stall speed 40
Add a 200 lb passenger, flying weight becomes 1100 lbs
1100/900 = 1.22
sqrt(1.22) = 1.11 therefore stall speed at 1100 lbs = 44.4
So, for these class of airplanes, adding 5 to indicated speed during approach when
carrying a passenger, an often heard bit of advice, is about right.
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Don't worry about old age... it doesn't last very long.
- Anonymous
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| Subject: | Lift Reserve Indicator |
| From: | Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com> |
I sent the article to start a discussion since the Kolb list has been
pretty quiet these days and it achieved that goal.
In defense of the idea, where is that most stall/spin accidents occur? At
low speeds while approaching or departing an airport. Jim's indicator, as
you can see from the picture, is located at the top of his panel where it
can attract attention during that critical phase when the pilot's eyes
should be outside the cockpit looking for traffic.
We've lost one list member to a landing stall/spin on his very first flight
in his newly completed IIIX. Would an LRI helped? No way to know, but angle
of attack gauges are the latest rage to combat the stall/spin accident and
Jim came up with a homebuilder's solution that's inexpensive and
uncomplicated.
Rick Girard
--
Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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| Subject: | Firestar II stall speed... |
| From: | "Arizona Flyer" <heracesthesun(at)yahoo.com> |
I bought a pre owned Firestar II and all my research indicated a 30mph stall speed.
I was shocked on my first landing at my short airstrip when it dropped from
about 4ft. and bounced hard yikes! No damage but I approached at 42mph and
backed it off just before the runway threshold, a quick glance showed 36mph right
before it stalled which would be 35mph. My Firestar log book list the weight
at 419 lbs. I am so fortunate I was not higher when this happened. This makes
me concerned for other new Firestar pilots who may also experience this somewhat
dangerous surprise with a 30mph stall speed in mind. I would have never
tried to slow it down so much on a longer runway but I had to for the short strip.
On the next 3 landings I kept 42mph approach and 40mph at threshold and held
that speed until my wheels were 1ft or 2ft above the ground then cut power
and did well then. Is 419 lbs heavy or around normal for this airplane? Is 35mph
stall speed common? I've spent a few days extending my runway to accommodate
for a 5 mph faster Firestar than I expected. I have learned a lot from the
fine folks on this forum. I just joined to make my first post. I will do my best
to be a valuable contributor here. Thanks for any replies :)
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"Life should be lived as a bold adventure, I refuse to tiptoe through life
just to arrive safely at death"
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar II stall speed... |
| From: | Dennis Rowe <rowedenny(at)windstream.net> |
Welcome,
You have an experimental bird with an uncertified pitot static system. Test fly
at the largest field available, practice stalls at altitude to learn the indicated
airspeed at stall and as with all high drag, low weight aircraft fly it
down to a foot high before you flare.
Dennis Skid Rowe
Mk3, PA
On May 9, 2013, at 4:32 PM, "Arizona Flyer" wrote:
>
> I bought a pre owned Firestar II and all my research indicated a 30mph stall
speed. I was shocked on my first landing at my short airstrip when it dropped
from about 4ft. and bounced hard yikes! No damage but I approached at 42mph and
backed it off just before the runway threshold, a quick glance showed 36mph
right before it stalled which would be 35mph. My Firestar log book list the weight
at 419 lbs. I am so fortunate I was not higher when this happened. This makes
me concerned for other new Firestar pilots who may also experience this somewhat
dangerous surprise with a 30mph stall speed in mind. I would have never
tried to slow it down so much on a longer runway but I had to for the short
strip. On the next 3 landings I kept 42mph approach and 40mph at threshold and
held that speed until my wheels were 1ft or 2ft above the ground then cut power
and did well then. Is 419 lbs heavy or around normal for this airplane? Is
35mph stall speed common? I've spent a few days extend!
> ing my runway to accommodate for a 5 mph faster Firestar than I expected. I have
learned a lot from the fine folks on this forum. I just joined to make my
first post. I will do my best to be a valuable contributor here. Thanks for any
replies :)
>
> --------
> "Life should be lived as a bold adventure, I refuse to tiptoe through life
just to arrive safely at death"
>
>
>
>
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>
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| From: | David Kulp <undoctor(at)ptd.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Firestar II stall speed... |
Also, something my flight instructor taught me taking GA lessons; if you
stall too high above the runway, goose the throttle as soon as you feel
it break and you'll touch down a lot gentler. Happened again a few
hours later concentrating too hard on gusty cross winds, and it works!!
Dave Kulp
Bethlehem, PA
FireFly 11DMK
On 5/9/2013 5:13 PM, Dennis Rowe wrote:
>
> Welcome,
> You have an experimental bird with an uncertified pitot static system. Test fly
at the largest field available, practice stalls at altitude to learn the indicated
airspeed at stall and as with all high drag, low weight aircraft fly it
down to a foot high before you flare.
>
> Dennis Skid Rowe
> Mk3, PA
>
> On May 9, 2013, at 4:32 PM, "Arizona Flyer" wrote:
>
>>
>> I bought a pre owned Firestar II and all my research indicated a 30mph stall
speed. I was shocked on my first landing at my short airstrip when it dropped
from about 4ft. and bounced hard yikes! No damage but I approached at 42mph and
backed it off just before the runway threshold, a quick glance showed 36mph
right before it stalled which would be 35mph. My Firestar log book list the weight
at 419 lbs. I am so fortunate I was not higher when this happened. This
makes me concerned for other new Firestar pilots who may also experience this
somewhat dangerous surprise with a 30mph stall speed in mind. I would have never
tried to slow it down so much on a longer runway but I had to for the short
strip. On the next 3 landings I kept 42mph approach and 40mph at threshold and
held that speed until my wheels were 1ft or 2ft above the ground then cut power
and did well then. Is 419 lbs heavy or around normal for this airplane? Is
35mph stall speed common? I've spent a few days exte!
> nd!
>> ing my runway to accommodate for a 5 mph faster Firestar than I expected. I
have learned a lot from the fine folks on this forum. I just joined to make my
first post. I will do my best to be a valuable contributor here. Thanks for any
replies :)
>>
>> --------
>> "Life should be lived as a bold adventure, I refuse to tiptoe through life
just to arrive safely at death"
>>
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>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400204#400204
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| From: | "Rex Rodebush" <jrrodebush(at)gmail.com> |
Finally received my Airworthiness Certificate today after about 13+ years of on
and off building!
Rex Rodebush
Mark III X-tra with 912S
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| From: | kinne russ <russk50(at)gmail.com> |
Rex:
Where are you located?
Russ K
On May 9, 2013, at 7:22 PM, Rex Rodebush wrote:
>
> Finally received my Airworthiness Certificate today after about 13+ years of
on and off building!
>
> Rex Rodebush
> Mark III X-tra with 912S
>
>
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>
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| From: | "Larlaeb" <larlaeb(at)gmail.com> |
Way to go! :D
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| Subject: | Re: landing gear alignment |
| From: | "Rick Lewis" <cktman(at)wildblue.net> |
It would have been so nice, Russ, for you to have been honest with me about having
no intension of buying my plane. This would have saved me a lot of work getting
things ready for you to look at.........
--------
Rick Lewis
(VW Watercooled Engine)
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar II stall speed... |
| From: | "t41pilot" <t41pilot(at)frontier.com> |
I also had the same "Surprise" with my Firefly on the first couple of landings.
The approach looks good and then Bango. My firefly puts on the brakes as soon
as power is removed, so now I carry some rpm all the way to flare and then back
it off for touchdown. I do my approaches between 45 and 50 with no flap. I
know Kolbs can land short. It's just a matter of power management and flap. I'm
still doing the no flap approach because my landings are better at the quicker
speed. But with more experience I know I can land shorter. As far as Airspeed
calibration, I compared my indicated airspeed to my GPS ground speed on a
calm day and they were within 1 mph. I use a dual static port setup. One on each
side of my nosecone. I made homemade ones by drilling out 1/4 inch Nylon bolts
through the centers lengthwise and holding them in place with nylon nuts.
Head of the bolt outside and the nuts inside with some thread to spare for air
tubing hookup. Then I just slipped the static air tubing over the ends and
clamped in place. The tubing fit tightly over the threads as it was but clamps
make good insurance. The cost is next to nothing. If you find an airspeed problem,
check the incidence of the pitot tube. If your indicated airspeed is Ok
then you are in the same boat as me. Just practice...practice...practice with
a little sight seeing in between.
--------
Gregg Kaat
2011 Firefly
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| Subject: | Re: landing gear alignment |
| From: | kinne russ <russk50(at)gmail.com> |
I am hurt by your comments! -- I DID have intentions of buying your plane, and
am an honest man.
I wouldn't do that to you, or anyone else.
I'm not that kind of person.
Russ K
On May 9, 2013, at 7:53 PM, Rick Lewis wrote:
>
> It would have been so nice, Russ, for you to have been honest with me about having
no intension of buying my plane. This would have saved me a lot of work
getting things ready for you to look at.........
>
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> Rick Lewis
>
> (VW Watercooled Engine)
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| From: | "Brian and Karon Frey" <lakepeople(at)centurytel.net> |
Congrats Rex
Brian Frey
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rex Rodebush" <jrrodebush(at)gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 6:22 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Finally
>
> Finally received my Airworthiness Certificate today after about 13+ years
> of on and off building!
>
> Rex Rodebush
> Mark III X-tra with 912S
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400217#400217
>
>
>
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| From: | Brad Nation <nationcap(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | New Purchase of Used Xtra |
I will be purchasing a used Xtra with a 912 100hp Rotax shortly as this will be
my first airplane purchase this will be unfamiliar territory. Any pointers and
suggestions on the buying process and evaluating the airplane would be appreciated.
Are there any specifics related to the Kolb/Kolb Xtra or Rotax that I
should be looking for?
I'm so excited!
Once again, thanks in advance,
Brad
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar II stall speed... |
| From: | "wakataka" <wakataka(at)charter.net> |
I had the same experience on the first few landings with my Firestar 1. If you
bring it in slow, it will just quit flying all at once about the time you expect
it to begin to settle. So far, I've found that wheel landings work better the
stall landings. That way you can bring it in a little hot and avoid that sinking
feeling when it quits flying before you're ready. That doesn't work so well
on short fields, though.
I've only got about 30 hours in the Firestar so I'm sure there's things I've yet
to learn about it, but so far it seems like a very honest little airplane with
only a few minor quirks.
--------
There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale returns of
conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact.
Mark Twain
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| From: | frank goodnight <frank.goodnight(at)att.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Firestar II stall speed... |
Hi ,
Not trying to be a smart alec or a know it all. I believe that most pilots would
agree
when flying a new --to you -- airplane alone and for the first time one should
at least
go and do a couple of approach stalls before the first landing that way no
surprises .
Even then it's hard to believe how fast a firestar will drop out from under you
with
low power and low airspeed.Good luck , landing a fire star does get very easy
after a while.
Frank
Firestar 2
________________________________
From: Arizona Flyer <heracesthesun(at)yahoo.com>
Sent: Thu, May 9, 2013 3:32:43 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Firestar II stall speed...
I bought a pre owned Firestar II and all my research indicated a 30mph stall
speed. I was shocked on my first landing at my short airstrip when it dropped
from about 4ft. and bounced hard yikes! No damage but I approached at 42mph and
backed it off just before the runway threshold, a quick glance showed 36mph
right before it stalled which would be 35mph. My Firestar log book list the
weight at 419 lbs. I am so fortunate I was not higher when this happened. This
makes me concerned for other new Firestar pilots who may also experience this
somewhat dangerous surprise with a 30mph stall speed in mind. I would have never
tried to slow it down so much on a longer runway but I had to for the short
strip. On the next 3 landings I kept 42mph approach and 40mph at threshold and
held that speed until my wheels were 1ft or 2ft above the ground then cut power
and did well then. Is 419 lbs heavy or around normal for this airplane? Is 35mph
stall speed common? I've spent a few days extend!
ing my runway to accommodate for a 5 mph faster Firestar than I expected. I have
learned a lot from the fine folks on this forum. I just joined to make my first
post. I will do my best to be a valuable contributor here. Thanks for any
replies :)
--------
"Life should be lived as a bold adventure, I refuse to tiptoe through life
just to arrive safely at death"
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar II stall speed... |
| From: | Gary Aman <zeprep251(at)aol.com> |
Do your practice approaches at 2000' above the ground on your first flight.
Make it as long a flight as you can but close to the field.Find out where i
t stalls,how slow it will fly,and what it feels like before it quits.A sens
itive altimeter is a great plus on your first fact finding flight.The first
flight is usually a little scary,but nothing is as dangerous as crow hops.
Make the first approach to landing a long one and the advice to fly it down
to a wheel landing is not bad either,but you can do full stall landings to
o as long as it's from a few inches above the ground.
If you don't care for the abrupt stalls these high performance aircraft
provide,you might consider VGs.I didn't have them on the FS2 I built in 199
9 and I loved that plane for the 750hrs I had it, but I have them on the MK
3 and have flown other MK3s from 65-100hp with and without VGs and they mak
e such a dramatic difference when you are slow that I would REALLY recommen
d them on ANY Kolb.(Sorry John).
G.Aman FS2 503 750hrs MK3C Jabiru 2200a 800hrs.
-----Original Message-----
From: wakataka <wakataka(at)charter.net>
Sent: Fri, May 10, 2013 4:10 am
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Firestar II stall speed...
I had the same experience on the first few landings with my Firestar 1. If
you
bring it in slow, it will just quit flying all at once about the time you e
xpect
it to begin to settle. So far, I've found that wheel landings work better t
he
stall landings. That way you can bring it in a little hot and avoid that si
nking
feeling when it quits flying before you're ready. That doesn't work so well
on
short fields, though.
I've only got about 30 hours in the Firestar so I'm sure there's things I'
ve
yet to learn about it, but so far it seems like a very honest little airpla
ne
with only a few minor quirks.
--------
There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale retur
ns of
conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact.
Mark Twain
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| Subject: | Re: New Purchase of Used Xtra |
| From: | Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com> |
Brad, The most important thing for a IIIX is the wing angle of incidence.
Early models were set up exactly like IIIC's and this resulted in the duck
bill flying at a negative angle of attack causing a lot of unnecessary,
parasitic drag.
How to tell if the incidence is correct? Fortunately, it's relatively easy.
First, look at the forward attach points of the horizontal stabilizer. If
they are on the center line of the boom tube, the wings most likely have
the new, factory recommended, lower incidence angle. If the attach point is
high up on the boom, like a Mk IIIC, the wings are most likely set too
high. The high mounting point causes problems when you move them downward
into the low position. They will be slightly bound by the change as the
rear attach point stays the same while the front becomes wider.
Second, aluminum gear legs. If the aircraft has aluminum gear legs (you can
tell them because they are straight and tapered from where they come out of
the fuselage to the wheel fittings) the wings are almost certainly set in
the high position. If they are not, the aircraft will be difficult to lift
off and land properly. Most specifically, it will tend to land tail wheel
first.
Third, and this is a little harder to see, Pull the wing gap cover. If the
bottom of the wings are above the top of the windshield, i.e., above the
top windshield former tube, the wings are set in the high position.
Even if your new baby has the wings set in the early, high position, it can
be fixed. It's a PITA, but it can be done. The most time consuming, and
expensive, is making a new gap cover. The new, lower incidence will put the
bottom of the wing below the windshield frame so the gap cover becomes a
bit more complex to fit.
One other thing to look at concerning wings. Check the condition of the
forward spar attach pin holes. They should be round and fit the pin snugly.
If they are oblong or a sloppy fit this is an unsafe condition, IMHO, and
should be fixed before the plane is flown.
Last, before you fly it, get some time in a sailplane and learn to wheel
land. Regardless of where the wing is set, the Mk III, either model, is
very easy to land tail wheel first. If you have aluminum gear legs, they
will almost certainly get bent. The other issue that learning to wheel land
will fix is landing too high, another main gear bender.
watch my video; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQ-YaW9WgEU and pay
attention to how the sight picture changes as more flap is used and how low
to the ground your sight line is.
Make all your landings without flaps at first, but make your take offs with
one notch of flaps. Take off is almost automatic with one notch of flaps.
Hold the stick in neutral position and feed in power. You'll be off the
ground in less than 200 feet and you will not have moved the stick at all.
Watch for the nose to come up when you take the flaps off.
Good luck and enjoy your new plane. Try not to drool and consult a
physician if your smile lasts more than four hours.
Rick Girard
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 9:23 PM, Brad Nation wrote:
>
> I will be purchasing a used Xtra with a 912 100hp Rotax shortly as this
> will be my first airplane purchase this will be unfamiliar territory. Any
> pointers and suggestions on the buying process and evaluating the airplane
> would be appreciated. Are there any specifics related to the Kolb/Kolb
> Xtra or Rotax that I should be looking for?
>
> I'm so excited!
>
> Once again, thanks in advance,
> Brad
>
>
--
Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Lift Reserve Indicator |
| From: | Robert Laird <rlaird(at)cavediver.com> |
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Dennis Rowe wrote:
> I read below that we lost a member in a stall spin accident, I've been off
> list for quite a while and had missed this. I'm saddened to hear, but have
> to ask who it was?
August 10, 2009 (from a John Hauck email on the Kolb-List):
*"Brad Stump, flying his Kolb MKIIIx, and a passenger died Saturday.*
*
Brad trailered his MKIIIx to the Kolb Homecoming last year.
http://www.wrcbtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=10878641
The accident is also listed in the FAA Preliminary Accident Reports for 10
Aug."*
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar II stall speed... |
| From: | Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com> |
Travis, one the world's best people, clued my in after I had become dear
friends with Mr. Hydraulic Press while straightening main gear legs.
Wheel land, wheel land, wheel land. It's that simple. Don't even try for a
full stall landing, just wheel it on.
Rick Girard
On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 8:00 AM, frank goodnight wrote:
> Hi ,
> Not trying to be a smart alec or a know it all. I believe that most pilots
> would agree
> when flying a new --to you -- airplane alone and for the first time one
> should at least
> go and do a couple of approach stalls before the first landing that way no
> surprises .
> Even then it's hard to believe how fast a firestar will drop out from
> under you with
> low power and low airspeed.Good luck , landing a fire star does get very
> easy after a while.
> Frank
> Firestar 2
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Arizona Flyer
> *To:* kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> *Sent:* Thu, May 9, 2013 3:32:43 PM
> *Subject:* Kolb-List: Firestar II stall speed...
>
>
> I bought a pre owned Firestar II and all my research indicated a 30mph
> stall speed. I was shocked on my first landing at my short airstrip when it
> dropped from about 4ft. and bounced hard yikes! No damage but I approached
> at 42mph and backed it off just before the runway threshold, a quick glance
> showed 36mph right before it stalled which would be 35mph. My Firestar log
> book list the weight at 419 lbs. I am so fortunate I was not higher when
> this happened. This makes me concerned for other new Firestar pilots who
> may also experience this somewhat dangerous surprise with a 30mph stall
> speed in mind. I would have never tried to slow it down so much on a longer
> runway but I had to for the short strip. On the next 3 landings I kept
> 42mph approach and 40mph at threshold and held that
>
> *
>
>
> *
>
>
--
Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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| From: | Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | New flights stall/spin |
> Dennis, it was a few years ago. Scott, as I recall, was his first name, sorry
I forget his last (England?) He and his partner
> built a beautiful Mk IIIX. He was a new pilot with a Sport Pilot ticket and spun
in when he stalled the airplane on the base to final turn.
>
> Rick
Robert Laird, the reference to a MkIIIX pilot that died on a maiden flight is as
follows:
Rick G, Kolbers,
His name was Scott Thompson, Kolb-list frequent contributor, with building assistance
of
his friend Paul (never knew Paul's last name).
BTW, just after Scott's maiden flight and subsequent crash, I talked to his wife.
From what
I recall, it doesn't appear that Scott made "a LOT" of stall/spin practice maneuvers
from her
description of his flying that evening. IIRC, all he did was "go out and fly
around", and then
came back in for his first (and tragic) landing.
Frank's advice for a new pilot to do several stall/spin practice maneuvers is
excellent
advice.
Mike Welch
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| Subject: | Re: Lift Reserve Indicator |
| From: | Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com> |
Different accident Robert.
Here's the NTSB Factual Report
http://dms.ntsb.gov/aviation/AccidentReports/xmceaj45y0stth45pylpnl551/J05102013120000.pdf
and here's the final
http://dms.ntsb.gov/aviation/AccidentReports/5ulae355krrtfn45s0twgm2t1/G05102013120000.pdf
Rick Girard
On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Robert Laird wrote:
>
> On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Dennis Rowe wrote:
>
>> I read below that we lost a member in a stall spin accident, I've been
>> off list for quite a while and had missed this. I'm saddened to hear, but
>> have to ask who it was?
>
>
> August 10, 2009 (from a John Hauck email on the Kolb-List):
>
> *"Brad Stump, flying his Kolb MKIIIx, and a passenger died Saturday.*
> *
> Brad trailered his MKIIIx to the Kolb Homecoming last year.
>
> http://www.wrcbtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=10878641
>
> The accident is also listed in the FAA Preliminary Accident Reports for 10
> Aug."*
>
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
--
Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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| From: | Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | Lift Reserve Indicator |
Two things.
First, Rick Lewis: You mentioned something about a pilot being concentrated too
much on
"electronic gages". For the record, the Lift Reserve Indicator shared to the list
by Rick G
is ONLY a sensitive air pressure gage, and necessary tubing and pitot mast. No
electronics.
Listers: If anyone on the list is interested, I have the "real" thing, i.e., the
Lift Reserve Indicator" made and
sold by LRI, Inc. As Rick G mentioned, the gage is a super sensitive Dwyer (I
have 4 additional gages
I bought on eBay ( 0-2psi)
The pitot mast is an easily duplicated aluminum fixture. Detailed photos upon
request.
Aircraft Spruce sells the red/green/ yellow curved arc gage stick-ons.
Lift Reserve Indicator. Some pilots will like them. Some will think they are
a waste of time.
Mike Welch
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar II stall speed... |
| From: | "Arizona Flyer" <heracesthesun(at)yahoo.com> |
Thanks so much guys I really appreciate the input! t41pilot & wakataka; We are
flying in a parallel universe with the exact same experiences. My Firestar II
is 419lbs and it's pretty loaded with a Rotax 503DC, electric start, EIS, ASI
with dual pitot tubes, fuel gauge, Facet aux fuel pump, 3 blade Ivoprop. Being
only 148 lbs I really expected a 30mph stall speed. During my short flight with
my light weigh I had to turn the trim knob all the way for level flight. Looking
back, and not having flown for 11 years, even with my long experience flying
these types (Quicksilver Sprint II, Quicksilver Sport, Buccaneer SX amphibian,
Rans S-12, Avid Flyer Mark IV, Rans S-7) I should have taken the Firestar
to a longer airstrip. zeprep251(at)aol.com; Yes my first flight was a little
scary and a few hundred feet up, the desert airstrip I made on my property that
seemed plenty long on the ground @530ft well it sure got small looking down
from above but I had planned to practice some landings at a slightly longer
airstrip just south of my place where I had graded a runway for RC model airplanes,
it is about 600ft and more open. That stall drop & 2 bounces on my first
landing rattled me a bit and I drifted left off the runway but not much, and
it took almost all of the length to stop. 'Get right back on that horse' I took
off again and my 2nd landing was good but I still drifted left. I may have started
braking at too high a speed but the runway end was coming up fast. Years
ago I was very good at tracking my Buccaneer SX, Avid Flyer, and Rans S-7 tail
draggers but I remember I took some practice and I was a little surprised at
how rusty I was with the Firestar. On the 3rd landing I did pretty well, the
4th landing was perfect. I was exhausted from the last 6 weeks of getting all
this work done, and nervous before my 1st flight, so after the 4th landing as
I sat there with the engine running I figured I could probably get it into my
strip but SAFETY FIRST, don't push it especially when tired so I parked the nose
under !
a tree a
nd tied it down. All this week I have been working on extending my runway and I
am up from 530ft to 800ft now. Also I think I'll put on VG's from StolSpeed as
a poster here said they brought his Firestar II stall speed down 5mph, from
35mph down to 30mph and says it handles better at slower speeds and also feels
safer. Not that the Firestar is unsafe in any way but it would help with a shorter
strip and add some piece of mind. That abrupt stall drop still haunts me
but I know after a couple more flights and landings I'll be smiling ear to ear
:) For what it's worth, my yellow Firestar II was built in 1999 by Gary Aman
and I bought it last month from 'Captain' Ron Larson of Port Charlotte Florida.
A very good mechanic nicknamed 'Rotax Rick' did a rebuild on the 503 and has
greatly helped me with questions & info. The airplane is in good condition and
Ron only wanted $7,800 so I bought it. Rotax Rick, Travis & Brian at Kolb have
said I got a very good deal at that price. It did cost me $3,075 to have Bill
Wilmeroth at Deland Barnstormers transport it from Florida to Arizona and
he did a great job. So happy with my purchase. Thanks again for the great input
guys :)
--------
"Life should be lived as a bold adventure, I refuse to tiptoe through life
just to arrive safely at death"
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| Subject: | Re: Stripped threads on tail nut. |
| From: | "Arizona Flyer" <heracesthesun(at)yahoo.com> |
I just bought a pre-owned Firestar II. During inspection I was looking at the tail
wire bolt, a 'Jesus bolt' some call it. It took quite a bit of force to turn
the wing nut far enough to tighten the wires and see the hole for the safety
ring and insert it. I noticed the bolt threads were a bit rounded off and the
wing nut had marks from pliers over the years (I won't use pliers, fingers only).
I could wiggle the wing nut on the bolt enough to make me uncomfortable
figuring it might be worn from years of use. I ordered a new bolt & wing nut,
I went a grade above AN and went with stainless steel. With the new one I can
barely wiggle the wing nut on the threads now, what a nice piece of mind, SAFETY
FIRST, always! Please check yours for wear, if you can wiggle that wing nut
much please replace it...
--------
"Life should be lived as a bold adventure, I refuse to tiptoe through life
just to arrive safely at death"
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar II stall speed... |
| From: | "dcharter" <dpcharter1(at)gmail.com> |
When I first fly any new to me plane, I take it up to about 1000' agl and stall
it. That way you know what your ASI is indicating when it stops flying. I've
never went by word of mouth or anything else. My original firestar stopped flying
at 27 indicated @330 lbs.MT weight.
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| From: | <aoldman(at)xtra.co.nz> |
| Subject: | Re: Firestar II stall speed... |
Sorry for sounding like a SA but all this talk about bending gear legs..
I have several hundred hours in a MK111c and have never bent anything .
The only person that bent the legs on my MK111 was a GA pilot ,the
sudden stop flying just above the ground took him by surprise. These
aircraft are very predictable and forgiving . If you have little
experience on the Kolb do your long finals at 5o mph under power. If you
flare between 45 =93 40 mph solo and very close to the ground {
within 12 inches } then cut the power with a little back pressure on the
stick you will arrive safely. Speed will disappear very rapidly once you
flare . If the tail end hits first then you have too much back pressure
on the stick. The more load you carry and or the slower you flare the
more back pressure required . The shortest landings you will get will be
slow with the stick well back . I always do this with some power on,
that way if it goes wrong you can vacate/abort without hurting anything.
Sorry this information is not for a firestar as I have no experience
with them. Reading the posts to would appear that they handle very much
the same as the Mk111 . I just do not understand all the negative talk
about the aluminum gear legs. I do concede that the airport I mostly use
is grass and very firm. I only use the sealed runways for take offs .
The only reason I make this post is to point out that while the aluminum
legs may not be as strong as some of the steel ones they are still
capable of a fair amount of punishment without bending, I believe I have
put this to the test over the years.
Regards
Tony { Downunder }
MK111c
From: Richard Girard
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 2:01 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firestar II stall speed...
Travis, one the world's best people, clued my in after I had become dear
friends with Mr. Hydraulic Press while straightening main gear legs.
Wheel land, wheel land, wheel land. It's that simple. Don't even try for
a full stall landing, just wheel it on.
Rick Girard
On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 8:00 AM, frank goodnight
wrote:
Hi ,
Not trying to be a smart alec or a know it all. I believe that most
pilots would agree
when flying a new --to you -- airplane alone and for the first time
one should at least
go and do a couple of approach stalls before the first landing that
way no surprises .
Even then it's hard to believe how fast a firestar will drop out from
under you with
low power and low airspeed.Good luck , landing a fire star does get
very easy after a while.
Frank
Firestar 2
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From: Arizona Flyer <heracesthesun(at)yahoo.com>
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Thu, May 9, 2013 3:32:43 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Firestar II stall speed...
I bought a pre owned Firestar II and all my research indicated a 30mph
stall speed. I was shocked on my first landing at my short airstrip when
it dropped from about 4ft. and bounced hard yikes! No damage but I
approached at 42mph and backed it off just before the runway threshold,
a quick glance showed 36mph right before it stalled which would be
35mph. My Firestar log book list the weight at 419 lbs. I am so
fortunate I was not higher when this happened. This makes me concerned
for other new Firestar pilots who may also experience this somewhat
dangerous surprise with a 30mph stall speed in mind. I would have never
tried to slow it down so much on a longer runway but I had to for the
short strip. On the next 3 landings I kept 42mph approach and 40mph at
threshold and held that
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Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be
unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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| From: | "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Firestar II stall speed... |
Wheel land, wheel land, wheel land>>
Huh? Why?
The object of landing is to stop flying (stall) when you touch the
ground.. Everyone can remember their instructor saying `Hold it off,
hold it off`
I have never done a wheelie or even landed with any more than minimum
power. What is the point? One day your engine will lose power and you
will have to land in a small field. Treat every landing as a practice
for that occasion.
I always throttled right back as soon as I had the field made. Push the
nose down a tad to maintain speed, clear the hedge by the minimum safety
margin, flare just above the ground and keep pulling back as the speed
decays.That way you are moving at the slowest possible speed when your
wheels touch. That takes the sting out of any possible rough ground,
ruts, tussocks etc.
If you bang the tail down first sort out your trim. the plane should not
be in that configuration.
I realise that this is all assuming perfect conditions. You may wish to
carry more speed in gusty conditions but that is airmanship not basic
piloting skill.
Use VG`s. in spite of some opinions on the list, they work. If they did
not there would be no Mk 3s flying in the UK as without the reduction in
stalling speed they afford the plane would not have passed our
specification.
Cheers
Pat
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| From: | "Ralph B" <rstar447(at)gmail.com> |
I had a fun day yesterday giving rides to my daughter and granddaughter.
Ralph B
--------
Ralph B
Original Firestar 447
N91493 E-AB
1000+ hours
26 years flying it
Kolbra 912ULS
N20386
200 hours
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| Subject: | Re: Stripped threads on tail nut. |
| From: | "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
...I went a grade above AN and went with stainless steel...
Stainless Steel hardware is NOT a grade above AN hardware.
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Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Don't worry about old age... it doesn't last very long.
- Anonymous
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| From: | herb <herbgh(at)nctc.com> |
Hey Thom
Where is my finders fee? Chatted with Sam last evening...said he
bought your Slingshot....
Next time I am in Buffalo...I expect several items from the dollar
menu!! :-) Herb
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar II stall speed... |
| From: | "Larlaeb" <larlaeb(at)gmail.com> |
Surely there is a place for both types of landings and both should be practiced.
I certainly agree with you that getting in the habit of dragging in under power
is dangerous but I also think that wheel landings can provide more margin
for error in high wind, gusty or other conditions that require a little more
control. In my experience being able to paste the wheels down when you want
with good rudder control can really help.
I don't think that takes away from the need to setup to 'make the runway' and be
practiced in making landings with no power.
Thanks,
Allan
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| Subject: | 5/10/13 Kolbra video |
| From: | "Ralph B" <rstar447(at)gmail.com> |
http://youtu.be/2UuhVROqNYE
Ralph B
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Ralph B
Original Firestar 447
N91493 E-AB
1000+ hours
26 years flying it
Kolbra 912ULS
N20386
200 hours
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| Subject: | Re: Stripped threads on tail nut. |
| From: | "Arizona Flyer" <heracesthesun(at)yahoo.com> |
Regular AN steel bolts and AN stainless steel bolts are of the same hardness &
strength, however stainless steel has added corrosion protection listed as 'corrosion
resistant' In my opinion that IS a 'grade above' regular AN although my
comment may have implied to some that I felt stainless steel was stronger. I
posted something in the interest of safety by checking the tail wire bolt for
wore threads and all you can do is pick on my 'grade above' comment? Sheez what
a disappointment with a new member on only his second post, I hope you are
the exception rather than the standard here...
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just to arrive safely at death"
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| Subject: | Re: Stripped threads on tail nut. |
| From: | Gary Aman <zeprep251(at)aol.com> |
I wind down pretty hard on my wing nut and had told the list that I had no
problems with it for close to 800 hrs.Well, my apologies to the list,I stri
pped it last Monday.The bolt seems good and I have had a spare wing nut for
years.No longer have a spare,and I fold it every time while down south for
the winter so I want to keep it quick or I'd find an excuse to not fly it.
Probably a good idea to use an AN nut IF you don't fold it on a regular bas
is and you like the wires bow string tight.
G.Aman MK3C Jabiru 2200A 800 hrs
-----Original Message-----
From: Arizona Flyer <heracesthesun(at)yahoo.com>
Sent: Sat, May 11, 2013 1:12 pm
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Stripped threads on tail nut.
Regular AN steel bolts and AN stainless steel bolts are of the same hardnes
s &
strength, however stainless steel has added corrosion protection listed as
'corrosion resistant' In my opinion that IS a 'grade above' regular AN alth
ough
my comment may have implied to some that I felt stainless steel was stronge
r. I
posted something in the interest of safety by checking the tail wire bolt f
or
wore threads and all you can do is pick on my 'grade above' comment? Sheez
what
a disappointment with a new member on only his second post, I hope you are
the
exception rather than the standard here...
--------
"Life should be lived as a bold adventure, I refuse to tiptoe through
life
just to arrive safely at death"
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| From: | <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Stripped threads on tail nut. |
-->
Regular AN steel bolts and AN stainless steel bolts are of the same hardness &
strength, however stainless steel has added corrosion protection listed as 'corrosion
resistant' In my opinion that IS a 'grade above' regular AN although my
comment may have implied to some that I felt stainless steel was stronger. I
posted something in the interest of safety by checking the tail wire bolt for
wore threads and all you can do is pick on my 'grade above' comment? Sheez what
a disappointment with a new member on only his second post, I hope you are
the exception rather than the standard here...
AZ Fly/Kolbers:
Don't be so sensitive. We are all entitled to our own opinion, right or wrong.
If someone on the Kolb List sees something that isn't quite kosher, or a way
to make something work better or safer, we expect them to speak up.
I use only AN hardware, especially in critical, load bearing situations like the
tail wires.
For Kolb tail wires I use only AN nyloc nuts, not AN wing nuts. The reason I use
a nyloc intead of wing nut is the bolt is used in stress, rather than shear.
Don't believe the wingnut was intended to be used in stress. I may be wrong,
but I don't use them.
I also insert the lower tailwire bolt from left to right, looking at the tailpost
from the rear. This way the nyloc nut will be tightened rather than loosened
when landing/taking off/taxiing through tall grass, brush, weeds, etc. My
first off field landing in Alaska in 1994, on an old dirt strip called Sparky,
in my MKIII, nearly resulted in a disaster, when the Alder bushes that covered
the abandoned strip unscrewed the nyloc nut on my lower tailwire bolt. I had
inserted the bolt from right to left.
While I am at it, the only way to know what the stall speed of an aircraft is is
to stall it. That should be done at a safe altitude and note on approach.
john h
mkIII
Mobile, Alabama
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| From: | <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Stripped threads on tail nut. |
I wind down pretty hard on my wing nut and had told the list that I had no problems
with it for close to 800 hrs.Well, my apologies to the list,I stripped it
last Monday.The bolt seems good and I have had a spare wing nut for years.No
longer have a spare,and I fold it every time while down south for the winter so
I want to keep it quick or I'd find an excuse to not fly it.Probably a good
idea to use an AN nut IF you don't fold it on a regular basis and you like the
wires bow string tight.
G.Aman MK3C Jabiru 2200A 800 hrs
Gary A/Kolbers:
Doesn't take any longer to screw on a 3/6 nyloc than a wing nut. You can use a
nut driver to do it. Even if you need to change nuts every 4 or 5 flights, that
is still money well spent.
john h
mkIII
Mobile, Alabama
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| Subject: | Re: Stripped threads on tail nut. |
| From: | "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
Arizona Flyer,
In your original post you did not state AN Stainless, only stainless. There are
a lot of folks who are not aware of the big differences in hardware that meets
the aircraft quality standards and hardware store hardware, whether stainless
or not. Since you are new to the list those of us who have been here awhile
don't know your level of knowledge. This is an important safety of flight issue
that deserves to be treated seriously.
I am sorry if you were offended. That was not my intention.
Perhaps you could tell the list a bit about yourself including your actual name.
For what its worth, I have been a private pilot since 1966 and mechanic since
1972 and have owned 3 Kolbs, and several other airplanes over the years. I was
also a sport pilot instructor but am not current in that role.
Thom in Buffalo
https://sites.google.com/site/riddletr/a&pmechanix
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Don't worry about old age... it doesn't last very long.
- Anonymous
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| From: | Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com> |
Kolbers,
I got a Matronics notification of a private message yesterday, but for the
life of me, I can't seem to log on to
Matronics to check the message. I can't remember my username and or original password.tried
about
a hundred+ different combinations. I got a temporary password, but still can't
seem to get the old username right.
Soooo. whoever it was that sent me a private message, try again at: mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com
Thanks!!
Mike Welch
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Private message |
Mike,
I'm not finding the email address "mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com" in the forums
database to look up your username. Is it possible that you used a
different email address? What do you recall your username is?
Matt Dralle
Matronics List Admin
At 12:08 PM 5/11/2013 Saturday, you wrote:
>
>Kolbers,
>
> I got a Matronics notification of a private message yesterday, but for
the life of me, I can't seem to log on to
>Matronics to check the message. I can't remember my username and or
original password=85.tried about
>a hundred+ different combinations. I got a temporary password, but still
can't seem to get the old username right.
>
> Soooo. whoever it was that sent me a private message, try again at:
mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com
>
>Thanks!!
>
>Mike Welch
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | 581 Jeannie Way | Livermore | CA | 94550
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
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| Subject: | Checking the river |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
The weather has been a lot nicer and I was curious if the River was
suitable for fishing. I have a bunch of stuff to do so I didn't want to
waste an entire day if it was not worth the trip, so I rolled out the
Firestar to check it out. I have included an attachment of my Spot readout
of the trip.
There has been some discussion by some new Kolb owners about landings in
Kolbs, so I took the liberty of showing a couple so that they could see for
themselves how easy they are, if you follow a couple of rules. While I am
not and apparently never will be a qualified expert on anything other than
what not to do when landing, I hope that this will help somewhat.
The main problem with landing that most folks run into is underestimating
the amount of drag compared to a GA plane, and over controlling. I am
running an HKS and I cruise at 53-5400 RPMs I will admit that out here in
the desert the first thing that goes out of the window for me is "pattern
altitude". When I am landing I do not cut the power to idle until I can
make the runway. Once I am in a position to hit the spot that I want, I cut
the power to idle, and allow the plane to sink. If I am too high I can slip
it or increase the angle of ascent, which ever is your wish. It is draggy
enough that unlike a GA plane it does not take up that much room to again
achieve your landing speed . Once I cut power, I allow the plane to sink
onto the ground, maintaining 50 MPH. The biggest problem that you will have
is over controlling. If you flare too soon, you had better be hitting some
power. I try to use only my finger tips, as I have a tendency to be a bit
"ham handed". In the video you can tell when I cut power as the screen
begins a "harmonic distortion". The one thing to always avoid is trying to
extend your landing. If you don't like where you are going, give it a bit
of throttle, it is not going to keep floating by pulling back on the stick.
Good luck!
https://vimeo.com/65971366 password "owyheeflyer"
Larry Cottrell
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address before sending.*
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| Subject: | Re: Going! Gone! |
| From: | Eugene Zimmerman <etzimm(at)gmail.com> |
Hey guys,
Spring fly-in at Sams's place Sat May 18
Hope to see you there.
Gene Z
On May 11, 2013, at 8:59 AM, herb wrote:
>
> Hey Thom
>
> Where is my finders fee? Chatted with Sam last evening...said he bought your
Slingshot....
>
> Next time I am in Buffalo...I expect several items from the dollar menu!!
:-) Herb
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Stripped threads on tail nut. |
| From: | "Arizona Flyer" <heracesthesun(at)yahoo.com> |
Thom Riddle; You are correct Sir, I apologize. Looking back at my comment now,
I can see where it looks like I ditched AN bolt and went with stainless steel
bolt instead. I should have said AN stainless steel, my fault and I'm glad now
that you pointed it out. It caused me enough concern to spend an hour researching
AN steel bolt vs. AN stainless steel bolt and I got a good education about
the difference and I thank you for that. I have been on forums where some guys
love to be critical and pick apart everything others say to feed their ego
and feel superior and I have a low tolerance for them. I mistakenly thought you
might be one of them and realize now you are not. Thanks for the kind reply...
Peace... My name is Jeff Jacobsen, I used to live in Lake Geneva Wisconsin
on 18 acres with a private grass airstrip and large hangar. In my flying days
there I had in progression a Quicksilver Sprint II, then a Quicksilver Sport,
then an Advanced Aviation Buccaneer SX amphibian, then a Rans S-12, then built
an Avid Flyer Mark IV with a Stratus Subaru engine, finally a Rans S-7 Courier
that I loved but sold in 2002. I flew so much that I wore it out, the 'magic'
was gone and I did not like that so I decided to take some years off from flying.
In 2006 I retired and moved to the southern Arizona town of Casa Grande.
I have 40 acres by the mountains and fly RC airplanes a lot. I figured the itch
to get back into the sky would hit me someday and 2 years ago I took a ride
in a trike, and that wonderful feeling of ultimate freedom & peace came over
me again and was re-hooked, I had been away from flying for 11 years and the magic
was finally back. 3 weeks ago I took delivery of a beautiful yellow Firestar
II expertly built by Gary Aman. I just got off the phone with Gary for 2 hours
and he was most generous and helpful. Thanks John Hauck for the input here.
I may be too sensitive at times but I hate forum bullies and come down hard
on them, I was wrong this time. Thom was right, my mistake may have led to some
newer p!
ilot goi
ng down to the hardware store or boat shop for a stainless steel bolt that is not
AN! SAFETY FIRST, always!
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just to arrive safely at death"
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| Subject: | Re: Stripped threads on tail nut. |
| From: | Dennis Rowe <rowedenny(at)windstream.net> |
Castle nut and safety ring. Done. :-) just sayin
Skid Rowe
On May 11, 2013, at 1:43 PM, wrote:
>
> I wind down pretty hard on my wing nut and had told the list that I had no problems
with it for close to 800 hrs.Well, my apologies to the list,I stripped
it last Monday.The bolt seems good and I have had a spare wing nut for years.No
longer have a spare,and I fold it every time while down south for the winter
so I want to keep it quick or I'd find an excuse to not fly it.Probably a good
idea to use an AN nut IF you don't fold it on a regular basis and you like the
wires bow string tight.
> G.Aman MK3C Jabiru 2200A 800 hrs
>
>
> Gary A/Kolbers:
>
> Doesn't take any longer to screw on a 3/6 nyloc than a wing nut. You can use
a nut driver to do it. Even if you need to change nuts every 4 or 5 flights,
that is still money well spent.
>
> john h
> mkIII
> Mobile, Alabama
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Going! Gone! |
| From: | Dennis Rowe <rowedenny(at)windstream.net> |
Where's SAMs place, somebody bought a nice Slingshot,
Skid Rowe
On May 11, 2013, at 5:06 PM, Eugene Zimmerman wrote:
>
> Hey guys,
> Spring fly-in at Sams's place Sat May 18
> Hope to see you there.
>
> Gene Z
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On May 11, 2013, at 8:59 AM, herb wrote:
>
>>
>> Hey Thom
>>
>> Where is my finders fee? Chatted with Sam last evening...said he bought your
Slingshot....
>>
>> Next time I am in Buffalo...I expect several items from the dollar menu!!
:-) Herb
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Going! Gone! |
| From: | Eugene Zimmerman <etzimm(at)gmail.com> |
100 Plane View Drive
Belleville,Pa 17004
40degrees 33'24 N
077 degrees'4836 W
On May 11, 2013, at 6:55 PM, Dennis Rowe wrote:
>
> Where's SAMs place, somebody bought a nice Slingshot,
>
>
> Skid Rowe
>
>
> On May 11, 2013, at 5:06 PM, Eugene Zimmerman wrote:
>
>>
>> Hey guys,
>> Spring fly-in at Sams's place Sat May 18
>> Hope to see you there.
>>
>> Gene Z
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 11, 2013, at 8:59 AM, herb wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hey Thom
>>>
>>> Where is my finders fee? Chatted with Sam last evening...said he bought your
Slingshot....
>>>
>>> Next time I am in Buffalo...I expect several items from the dollar menu!!
:-) Herb
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Calling Ja biru 2200 and Mk III Xtra owners |
| From: | "Frankd" <FDucker(at)aol.com> |
Hello Kolb list
This is Frankd and I need advise.
I've 45Hours on my MkIII Xtra with a Jabiru 2200 and enjoying flying nearly every
weekend.. GREAT to own your own plane..
I'm fully signed off by the FAA, and can go anywhere.
Now, its been HOT here in CA (Hollister) and I'm getting a hot engine running
at 325-330 DegF in cruise and 335 or higher in climb. I tried to increase my
airscoop on the left side to ram air over the cylinders but it did not help.
Now, I'm flying on 80+ deg days...
The obvious answer is "Don't fly on hot days" or get a water cooled 912...
But I'm stubborn and would like to ask the forum for tips from the Jabiru guys..
I have added an oil cooler that keeps the oil at 180DegF, Great.
I'll love to get the CHT down to 310 DegF in cruise. Got suggestions?
BTW, RickG .. Wonderful advise on new potential owners of MkIIXtras
I had an older model, high angle of attack and wrong incidence on the tail on my
first flight.. Nearly killed me!! Changed to lower incidence and steel legs
and still can land on my tail wheel first. but on purpose..
Love it when we all pool our experience..
Hope I can attach pics
FrankD
MkiiiXtra 1014S
45Hrs and climbing..
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| Subject: | Re: Going! Gone! |
| From: | "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
Herb,
You'll have to get your finder's fee from Sam. He can pay you a very very nice
one out of the money he saved by "stealing" the SS from me. He got a good deal
and I'm down to 1/2 share in one airplane now, so it was a good bargain for
both of us..... but mostly for Sam :-).
He plans to keep it light and didn't want some of the stuff that Luray put on it.
I took off a few things myself but Sam wanted even less on it.
I have a VLS style BRS-5 900 for sale among other things which I'll eventually
get around to posting on Barnstormers.
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Don't worry about old age... it doesn't last very long.
- Anonymous
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| Subject: | Re: Stripped threads on tail nut. |
| From: | "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
Jeff,
Welcome to the Kolb list and thanks for a bit about your background. We now know
you are not a complete novice. Of course we were all complete novices at some
point. We welcome novices with the same open arms as those with more experience.
Having access to friendly and helpful folks with more experience in particular
things is something that the internet makes so easy these days. This list is one
of the very best in that regard, but we have had a few "bullies" whose purpose
on the list was self-aggrandizement at other's expense. In time they usually
just go away when we ignore them.
Even though I just sold my Slingshot, I expect to be on the Kolb List for the duration
of my flying life. It is a great bunch.
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Don't worry about old age... it doesn't last very long.
- Anonymous
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| Subject: | Re: Stripped threads on tail nut. |
| From: | "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
[quote="rowedenny"]Castle nut and safety ring. Done. :-) just sayin
Skid Rowe
[quote]
I don't like the safety ring in that location. A safety ring up and away from the
grass is one thing, but a safety ring that close to the grass would make me
very uneasy. Likewise a "safety pin" type of clip. That close to the grass, I
would want to use something that no errant bit of grass or twig could snatch
off. Either a cotter pin or a short length of safety wire. On my MKIII, I use
a normal AN locknut with the plastic insert, and don't reuse them.
And I also like John's method of inserting them so that any grass friction will
tend to tighten, rather than loosen the nut.
--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Hebrews 11:1
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| From: | william sullivan <williamtsullivan(at)att.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Stripped threads on tail nut. |
- I noted on my old Firestar that the safety pin type clip gets bent in t
he linkage.- I think a lock nut of some type is safer.- maybe a "stove
type" lock nut would last better than a nylock.
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livan
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Locks, Ct.
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--- On Sun, 5/12/13, Richard Pike wrote:
From: Richard Pike <richard(at)bcchapel.org>
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Stripped threads on tail nut.
Date: Sunday, May 12, 2013, 9:50 AM
[quote="rowedenny"]Castle nut and safety ring. Done. :-) just sayin
Skid Rowe
[quote]
I don't like the safety ring in that location. A safety ring up and away fr
om the grass is one thing, but a safety ring that close to the grass would
make me very uneasy. Likewise a "safety pin" type of clip. That close to th
e grass, I would want to use something that no errant bit of grass or twig
could snatch off. Either a cotter pin or a short length of safety wire. On
my MKIII, I use a normal AN locknut with the plastic insert, and don't reus
e them.
And I also like John's method of inserting them so that any grass friction
will tend to tighten, rather than loosen the nut.
--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not
seen.
Hebrews 11:1
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| Subject: | Re: Stripped threads on tail nut. |
| From: | Dennis Rowe <rowedenny(at)windstream.net> |
Richard,
I agree that the safety pin style clip would scare me there, but I have no such
concern with a good small safety ring with no easy start end.
Skid Rowe
On May 12, 2013, at 9:50 AM, "Richard Pike" wrote:
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> [quote="rowedenny"]Castle nut and safety ring. Done. :-) just sayin
>
> Skid Rowe
>
> [quote]
>
> I don't like the safety ring in that location. A safety ring up and away from
the grass is one thing, but a safety ring that close to the grass would make
me very uneasy. Likewise a "safety pin" type of clip. That close to the grass,
I would want to use something that no errant bit of grass or twig could snatch
off. Either a cotter pin or a short length of safety wire. On my MKIII, I use
a normal AN locknut with the plastic insert, and don't reuse them.
> And I also like John's method of inserting them so that any grass friction will
tend to tighten, rather than loosen the nut.
>
> --------
> Richard Pike
> Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org
> Kingsport, TN 3TN0
> Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
> Hebrews 11:1
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| Subject: | Re: Stripped threads on tail nut. |
| From: | "Frankd" <FDucker(at)aol.com> |
Hi Kolbers,
If the threads can become stripped on such a safety key component, I'd suggest
using a slightly longer AN bolt and use two nuts and either Nylock or I like castle
nuts and a cotter pin. Or both.. That way there is twice the grip area
on the bolt.
I have noticed that my tangs have bent out from the bolt or nut head and maybe
a washer would help retain the original bend point.
I never thought about grass unwinding the nut, but I'm going to put my new bolt
in left to right... Tkx John.
FrankD
MkiiiXtra
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| Subject: | Re: Stripped threads on tail nut. |
| From: | "Arizona Flyer" <heracesthesun(at)yahoo.com> |
Thom; Thank you for the nice note and welcome kind Sir. I think my over-reaction
came from belonging to an RC model airplane forum 'RCGroups' where there are
several bully-know-it-all types that get worse over time, they scare away many
newcomers who become afraid to post anything for fear of being sliced up again.
Lately I reminded myself that most aviation folks are automatically a higher
quality group of people than the general public. Out of the 7 airplanes I've
owned I built 2 of them, the Quicksilver Sprint II which was a joy to build,
and the Avid flyer Mark IV that became so long & difficult that I swore 'never
again' will I build another airplane like that. I would consider another 'erector
set' like the Quicksilver type with Dacron wings and bolt together construction.
When I became keen on the Kolbs I knew I had to find one already built
and I found a real beauty at a great price. Thanks again Thom I'm glad to be
here :) Side note question? If you type a post long enough here, the words overlap
and you can't see what your typing anymore. Is this common or do I have
a glitch? Thanks...
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just to arrive safely at death"
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| Subject: | Re: Stripped threads on tail nut. |
| From: | "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
Jeff,
If you mean the text goes to the right side of the window, that sometimes happens
when a larger-than-needed photo is posted in that thread... I think, but that
is just a guess.
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Don't worry about old age... it doesn't last very long.
- Anonymous
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| Subject: | Re: Stripped threads on tail nut. |
| From: | "Arizona Flyer" <heracesthesun(at)yahoo.com> |
Thom, no right side, no photos. Just regular typing in the 'post reply' window
and when the paragraph gets long enough it starts overlapping words at the top,
then eventually it goes all the way to the bottom where I'm typing new words
and I can no longer see what I'm typing. When that happens I write my comment
out in my e-mail system then copy & paste it here in a new window that I cleared.
It works well but I'd rather figure out what's going on here. Maybe a moderator
will see this and offer help. I have not seen a 'contact moderator' button
anywhere here to ask for help. No big deal just a minor annoyance. Thanks...
--------
"Life should be lived as a bold adventure, I refuse to tiptoe through life
just to arrive safely at death"
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| Subject: | checking the river |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
Just a short note to complete the information about my flight yesterday to
the Owyhee to check to see if it was in fishable condition. I am happy to
say that the flight in my little Kolb was quite enjoyable and informative.
I followed up with a trip down there this morning and the result will be
quite pleasant this evening.
Larry
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| Subject: | Re: Calling Ja biru 2200 and Mk III Xtra owners |
| From: | "tkben002" <tkben002(at)bellsouth.net> |
Do you have any deflectors in the back of the scoops or only the front?
I had some of the same problems a few years ago and here is a link to my thread,
it has some pictures also.
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=84336&highlight=kolbra
Travis Bennett
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Stripped threads on tail nut. |
If the threads can become stripped on such a safety key component, I'd
suggest using a slightly longer AN bolt and use two nuts and either Nylock
or I like castle nuts and a cotter pin. Or both.. That way there is twice
the grip area on the bolt.
I have noticed that my tangs have bent out from the bolt or nut head and
maybe a washer would help retain the original bend point.
I never thought about grass unwinding the nut, but I'm going to put my new
bolt in left to right... Tkx John.
FrankD
MkiiiXtra
Frank D/Kolbers:
If installed correctly, not over torqued, the 3/16 AN bolt and nut will not
strip using a nyloc nut. Most AN 3/16 nuts that strip threads are because
they are tightened all the way down to the end of the threads and are
bottomed out and over torqued.
Important to insure the wire tangs are bent to mirror the angle of the wire
and the tube surface they are being tightened against. Most Kolb wire tangs
I see in my travels are not bent correctly and tail wires are too loose.
I personally believe any type wire safety device, hair pin, ring, etc., are
prone to failure when operated in any environment other than a groomed grass
strip or paved airstrip. I have put a lot of hours on factory Kolbs
configured exactly like the plans and instructions call for, but I was not
flying off unimproved strips or taxiing in tall grass, weeds, brush, etc.,
where the device could be damaged and/or pulled off.
My MKIII is very heavy, especially on the tail. I keep the tail wires
"banjo" tight. Kolbs, all models, fly much better with tight tail wires
than with loose wires. Never had an AN 3/16 nyloc nut fail or strip
threads. Again, I did come close to a catastrophic tail wire failure when
alder brush backed off the nyloc to within a couple threads. If you use
nylocs on the bottom tail wire bolt, be sure and insert right to left as
viewed from the rear, so the nut with be tightened rather than loosened.
john h
MKIII
Titus, Alabama
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | checking the river |
Just a short note to complete the information about my flight yesterday to
the Owyhee to check to see if it was in fishable condition. I am happy to
say that the flight in my little Kolb was quite enjoyable and informative. I
followed up with a trip down there this morning and the result will be quite
pleasant this evening.
Larry
Kolbers:
Beautiful trout and small mouth bass. Makes me hungry. Looking forward to
being at the Rock House and fishing the Owyhee River next month. Some of
the best tasting fresh water fish I have ever eaten come out of the clean,
clear water of the Owyhee.
My MKIII is all ready to go, but I think I am going to leave it at Gantt
International Airport this year and pull the 5th wheel West. The last
several years I have flown to the Rock House and home. Then two to three
weeks later loaded up the rig and pulled it back out West. Not economically
feasible and this old boy ain't as young as he used to be. Sleeping on a 10
inch foam mattress in the 5th wheel is somewhat more comfortable than on the
ground or on the floor of an old FOB. Just ain't conducive to my advanced
arthritis. Besides, I have become somewhat spoiled lately.
Don't catch'em all before I get there.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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| From: | <aoldman(at)xtra.co.nz> |
| Subject: | Re: Checking the river |
I love those vidio=99s. I guess the river was good for fishing
..The trees here are the same colour , it will be some time before they
are green again
Regards
Downunder
MK111c
From: Larry Cottrell
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 8:16 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Checking the river
The weather has been a lot nicer and I was curious if the River was
suitable for fishing. I have a bunch of stuff to do so I didn't want to
waste an entire day if it was not worth the trip, so I rolled out the
Firestar to check it out. I have included an attachment of my Spot
readout of the trip.
There has been some discussion by some new Kolb owners about landings in
Kolbs, so I took the liberty of showing a couple so that they could see
for themselves how easy they are, if you follow a couple of rules. While
I am not and apparently never will be a qualified expert on anything
other than what not to do when landing, I hope that this will help
somewhat.
The main problem with landing that most folks run into is
underestimating the amount of drag compared to a GA plane, and over
controlling. I am running an HKS and I cruise at 53-5400 RPMs I will
admit that out here in the desert the first thing that goes out of the
window for me is "pattern altitude". When I am landing I do not cut the
power to idle until I can make the runway. Once I am in a position to
hit the spot that I want, I cut the power to idle, and allow the plane
to sink. If I am too high I can slip it or increase the angle of ascent,
which ever is your wish. It is draggy enough that unlike a GA plane it
does not take up that much room to again achieve your landing speed .
Once I cut power, I allow the plane to sink onto the ground, maintaining
50 MPH. The biggest problem that you will have is over controlling. If
you flare too soon, you had better be hitting some power. I try to use
only my finger tips, as I have a tendency to be a bit "ham handed". In
the video you can tell when I cut power as the screen begins a "harmonic
distortion". The one thing to always avoid is trying to extend your
landing. If you don't like where you are going, give it a bit of
throttle, it is not going to keep floating by pulling back on the stick.
Good luck!
https://vimeo.com/65971366 password "owyheeflyer"
Larry Cottrell
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| From: | chris davis <capedavis(at)yahoo.com> |
Kolbers , Old timers? What prop would anyone choose for a Firefly with a 37
7 b-box 2.58 to 1 I have choices when buying I can take any one of these 2
blade props ---54X27----58X28----60X28 I am leaning towards the 60X28 think
ing if its too much i could take some length out? Thanks -in advance -I
know its old but so am I, lol, some of you guys must have had a 377 ? Chri
s=0A-=0AChris Davis=0AKXP 503 492 hrs=0AGlider Pilot=0ADisabled from cras
h building Firefly
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| From: | Dennis Rowe <rowedenny(at)windstream.net> |
Chris,
Going buy my experience with 30hp Cuyuna engines and 2 to 1 belt drives, the
60 x 28 sounds close for a 377 and your gearbox. The 54 x 27 would cause a h
ealthy 377 to over rev as that is the prop that worked on a 30hp Cuyuna and a
2 to 1 reduction on Pterodactyl Ascenders. A much slower plane than a Firef
ly.
Skid Rowe
On May 13, 2013, at 2:49 PM, chris davis wrote:
> Kolbers , Old timers? What prop would anyone choose for a Firefly with a 3
77 b-box 2.58 to 1 I have choices when buying I can take any one of these 2 b
lade props ---54X27----58X28----60X28 I am leaning towards the 60X28 thinkin
g if its too much i could take some length out? Thanks in advance I know i
ts old but so am I, lol, some of you guys must have had a 377 ? Chris
>
> Chris Davis
> KXP 503 492 hrs
> Glider Pilot
> Disabled from crash building Firefly
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Stripped threads on tail nut. |
| From: | "Arizona Flyer" <heracesthesun(at)yahoo.com> |
I just ordered a castle nut for my tail wire bolt so I would have a couple more
threads instead of the wing nut that has only 2 or 3 threads. I figure I can
gently tighten the castle nut with a socket then put the safety ring in the bolt
hole. My fingers get sore trying to turn my wing nut enough for decent cable
tension. Having a hard time finding a couple spare safety rings in case I loose
my one. I put a call into Travis @ Kolb hoping he has a couple to send along
with my new tail wheel replacement I just ordered. My tail wheel bearing seems
to be binding some as the wheel does not rotate freely, it won't spin without
helping it along.
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just to arrive safely at death"
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
Kolbers , Old timers? What prop would anyone choose for a Firefly with a 377
b-box 2.58 to 1 I have choices when buying I can take any one of these 2
blade props ---54X27----58X28----60X28 I am leaning towards the 60X28
thinking if its too much i could take some length out? Thanks in advance I
know its old but so am I, lol, some of you guys must have had a 377 ? Chris
Chris Davis
Chris D/Kolbers:
A Jim Culver 60X30 was perfect with a 447 on my original Firestar.
A Jim Culver 50X30 was perfect with my Cuyuna ULII02 on my Ultrastar. Can't
remember what the ratio was for Homer's belt drive.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | 2013 Kolb Homecoming |
Hi Folks:
Time to start getting ready to hit the road for London, KY, and this year's
Homecoming.
Arrival is Friday, the flyin Saturday, and departure Sunday.
Let's all pray for good weather and a safe flight and arrival for all those
that are lucky enough to get to attend the event.
See you all this Friday.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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| From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
At 03:10 PM 5/13/2013, Dennis Rowe wrote:
>Chris,
>Going buy my experience with 30hp Cuyuna engines and 2 to 1 belt drives,
>the 60 x 28 sounds close for a 377 and your gearbox. The 54 x 27 would
>cause a healthy 377 to over rev as that is the prop that worked on a 30hp
>Cuyuna and a 2 to 1 reduction on Pterodactyl Ascenders. A much slower
>plane than a Firefly.
The Cuyuna and the 377 are both rated at 35HP at 6500 rpm, so they should
be able to use the same prop with the same redrive. The Cuyuna on the
Ultrastar uses a 50x30 prop with a 2:1 ratio, though it's only the limited
clearance that mandated such a small prop.
Dana
--
Wernher von Braun settled for a V-2 instead of a V-8.
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| From: | "gyrodude" <gsafrit1(at)carolina.rr.com> |
I have a 5 rib older Firestar with a 377 Rotax. Sunday, It lost power so I put
it down in an open field that had cotton grown on it last year. No big deal except
in my wallet. I've been flying ultralights since the early eighties. Was
a BFI. I'm sure this has been asked before. I have a zero time 503 that I can
install if the 377 cannot be repaired at a reasonable price. I was told that it
was not recommended but that some guys have done the swap. Thanks for any opinions,
advice.
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| From: | chris davis <capedavis(at)yahoo.com> |
Dana Thanks for your opinion, it is very close to my thoughts;-=0AChris D
avis=0A=0AKXP 503 492 hrs=0AGlider Pilot=0ADisabled from crash building Fir
efly=0A=0A=0A>________________________________=0A>From: Dana Hague <d-m-hag
ue(at)comcast.net>=0A>To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com =0A>Sent: Monday, May 13, 20
13 5:35 PM=0A>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 377 prop=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>At 03:10 PM 5
/13/2013, Dennis Rowe wrote:=0A>=0A>Chris,=0A>>Going buy my experience with
30hp Cuyuna engines and 2 to 1 belt drives, the 60 x 28 sounds close for a
377 and your gearbox. The 54 x 27 would cause a healthy 377 to over rev as
that is the prop that worked on a 30hp Cuyuna and a 2 to 1 reduction on Pt
erodactyl Ascenders. A much slower plane than a Firefly.=0A>The Cuyuna and
the 377 are both rated at 35HP at 6500 rpm, so they should be able to use t
he same prop with the same redrive.- The Cuyuna on the Ultrastar uses a 5
0x30 prop with a 2:1 ratio, though it's only the limited clearance that man
dated such a small prop.=0A>=0A>Dana=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>--=0A>Wernher von Braun
== =0A>=0A>
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| Subject: | Re: 5 rib firestar |
| From: | "Ralph B" <rstar447(at)gmail.com> |
The original 5-rib Firestar was designed to meet Part 103, but it never did even
with a Rotax 377 engine. Many of them added the 447 engine including the one
I have. This put it far beyond the ultralight limits and thus became subject
to FAA registration. A Rotax 503 would not only add more weight but also more
power than the design can handle. I was told this by Dennis Souder at the old
Kolb Company. It would not be advisable to do this because the wings and airframe
cannot handle that kind of power. I know there are some guys out there that
disagree with me, but I think the designer knows more about the original 5-rib
wing than they do. On the other hand, a 7-rib wing is stronger with a beefed
up airframe and it can handle a 503 engine.
Ralph B
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Ralph B
Original Firestar 447
N91493 E-AB
1000+ hours
26 years flying it
Kolbra 912ULS
N20386
200 hours
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| From: | chris davis <capedavis(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: 5 rib firestar |
Gyrodude ,Ill tell you what Dennis told me twenty years ago if you are goin
g to use the 503 build a KXP ,I did ,but if you cant fix the377 send it to
me I am just buying one-for my Firefly-I might be able to use it for pa
rts. Good luck Chris=0A-=0A-=0AChris Davis=0AKXP 503 492 hrs=0AGlider P
ilot=0ADisabled from crash building Firefly=0A=0A=0A>______________________
__________=0A>From: gyrodude <gsafrit1(at)carolina.rr.com>=0A>To: kolb-list@ma
tronics.com =0A>Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 7:02 PM=0A>Subject: Kolb-List: 5
it1(at)carolina.rr.com>=0A>=0A>I have a 5 rib older Firestar with a 377 Rotax.
Sunday, It lost power so I put it down in an open field that had cotton gr
own on it last year. No big deal except in my wallet. I've been flying ultr
alights since the early eighties. Was a BFI. I'm sure this has been asked b
efore. I have a zero time 503 that I can install if the 377 cannot be repai
red at a reasonable price. I was told that it was not recommended but that
some guys have done the swap. Thanks for any opinions, advice.=0A>=0A>=0A>
=0A>=0A>Read this topic online here:=0A>=0A>http://forums.matronics.com/vie
==============0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>
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| Subject: | Re: 2013 Kolb Homecoming |
| From: | "Rick Lewis" <cktman(at)wildblue.net> |
Are you saying that the Home Coming is this Friday, Sat, and Sunday? They would
have a better turn out if they notified everyone. I will try to be there...
--------
Rick Lewis
(VW Watercooled Engine)
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: 2013 Kolb Homecoming |
Are you saying that the Home Coming is this Friday, Sat, and Sunday? They
would have a better turn out if they notified everyone. I will try to be
there...
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Rick Lewis
Rick L/Kolbers:
No, we'd have a better turn out if folks on the Kolb List paid attention.
I count 10 posts since the middle of April that discussed the 2013 Kolb
Homecoming.
Hope you can make it.
Can't please everyone. ;-)
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: 2013 Kolb Homecoming |
and......by the way, the 2013 Kolb Homecoming is this Fri thru Sun, 17-19
May 2013.
No offense, Rick. Just poking a little fun at'cha.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hauck
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 7:53 PM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: 2013 Kolb Homecoming
Are you saying that the Home Coming is this Friday, Sat, and Sunday? They
would have a better turn out if they notified everyone. I will try to be
there...
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Rick Lewis
Rick L/Kolbers:
No, we'd have a better turn out if folks on the Kolb List paid attention.
I count 10 posts since the middle of April that discussed the 2013 Kolb
Homecoming.
Hope you can make it.
Can't please everyone. ;-)
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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| Subject: | Re: 2013 Kolb Homecoming |
| From: | "Rick Lewis" <cktman(at)wildblue.net> |
Well I see one post thats labeled Home Coming and it doesn't say anything about
when. I figure it must be hidden somewhere else in another post. I'll start
watching a little closer next time.
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Rick Lewis
(VW Watercooled Engine)
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| Subject: | Re: 2013 Kolb Homecoming |
| From: | Dennis Rowe <rowedenny(at)windstream.net> |
Weather is looking doable, don't know if I'll be leaving Thursday late afternoon
and overnighting in Ashland Ky or thereabouts. Or heading out early Friday and
arriving in the afternoon.
Dennis Skid Rowe
Mk3 2Si 690L 70
Leechburg PA
On May 13, 2013, at 5:33 PM, "John Hauck" wrote:
>
> Hi Folks:
>
> Time to start getting ready to hit the road for London, KY, and this year's
> Homecoming.
>
> Arrival is Friday, the flyin Saturday, and departure Sunday.
>
> Let's all pray for good weather and a safe flight and arrival for all those
> that are lucky enough to get to attend the event.
>
> See you all this Friday.
>
> john h
> mkIII
> Titus, Alabama
>
>
>
>
>
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | 2013 Kolb Homecoming |
Weather is looking doable, don't know if I'll be leaving Thursday late
afternoon and overnighting in Ashland Ky or thereabouts. Or heading out
early Friday and arriving in the afternoon.
Dennis Skid Rowe
Have a great and safe flight. Looking forward to seeing you at the
Homecoming, as well as everyone else.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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| From: | "wakataka" <wakataka(at)charter.net> |
I ran a 60x26 on a 277 and I needed more pitch. You wouldn't want anything flatter
than 60x28 on a 377. In fact, that might not be enough. I run a Warp Drive
on my 377, so I couldn't tell you what pitch it runs at, but I know it has a
lot more power than the 277 on my other airplane.
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There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale returns of
conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact.
Mark Twain
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| Subject: | Re: 5 rib firestar |
| From: | "joepilot503" <joepilot503(at)hotmail.com> |
I bought a 5 rib back in 2003 and it had a 503, the guy said to use the xtra power
for takeoff and climbing only and as long as you don't go over your VNE your
good. I flew the stock wings for four years then I restored the plane and
made a custom modified cage to handle the 503 and modified the wings. you can
visit my website to see the mods, is this the thing to do I don't know? but I
felt comfortable then and even more since the mods.
www.brianskolbfirestar.comlu.com
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| From: | WhiskeyVictor36(at)aol.com |
Chris/All
FYI
I built an original (1985 model) FireStar with the (5) rib wing. It is
very similar to the Firefly but has a wider wing span. The kit came with a
377 Rotax with the 2.58 gear box. The propeller provided was a wood
Tennessee 66" X 28". It performed well.
I have since installed a Rotax 447 with a 2.58 gear box and I use a 66" X
32" wood TN prop and it also performs well.
Bill Varnes
Audubon, NJ
85 Kolb FireStar
In a message dated 5/13/2013 2:50:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
capedavis(at)yahoo.com writes:
Old timers? What prop would anyone choose for a Firefly with a 377 B-box
2.58
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| Subject: | Re: 5 rib firestar |
| From: | "GeoB" <gab16(at)sbcglobal.net> |
Ralph B wrote:
> A Rotax 503 would not only add more weight but also more power than the design
can handle.Ralph B
I have heard this before, someone said the phrase was, "It would shake itself apart".
I personally don't know. I have a Firestar I powered by a 503 DCDI but
I have never flown it, it's ready for a re-cover. The fella I bought it from flew
it this way. Not sure how many hours but there is only 28 hours on this engine.
I have no idea what engine was on it before. Maybe the PO never used all
of that power. Dunno.
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GeoB
"Members of Congress should be compelled to wear uniforms like NASCAR drivers,
so we could identify their corporate sponsors"
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| From: | "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
My early (5 rib) Firestar with 377 had a 60" IVO ground adjustable prop. It was
fairly light at 317 lb empty. It performed as well or better than the other early
Firestar (also 5-rib) with 447 and 62" Power Fin prop, 362 lb empty.
Both had the 2.58:1 B-box. With 2-stroke engines, especially the somewhat cantankerous
447, having a ground adjustable prop enables fine tuning to get the EGT
and CHTs where they belong.
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Don't worry about old age... it doesn't last very long.
- Anonymous
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: 5 rib firestar |
I bought a 5 rib back in 2003 and it had a 503, the guy said to use the xtra
power for takeoff and climbing only and as long as you don't go over your
VNE your good. I flew the stock wings for four years then I restored the
plane and made a custom modified cage to handle the 503 and modified the
wings. you can visit my website to see the mods, is this the thing to do I
don't know? but I felt comfortable then and even more since the mods.
www.brianskolbfirestar.comlu.com
Kolbers:
Did the same thing when I built my mkIII wings. Was a little gun shy after
pulling the leading edges off my original Firestar 5 rib wing. Made sure
that didn't happen to the new airplane.
I used two webs to brace the bow tip. One straight out and one at 45
degrees. Really stiffens the forward half of the bow tip.
Enjoyed your videos. Nothing like flying out of your own airstrip.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Stripped threads on tail nut. |
A problem with using a nyloc nut on the tail post is using a drilled bolt.As
the nut passes the drilled hole it cuts the nylon out of the nut like a
lathe,which pretty much negates the advantage of a locking nut.A tall
castellated nut and a stainless lock ring are probably my best options.I
found those locking rings at a marina that carried sailing boat
accessories,
G.Aman
Kolbers:
Use a bolt that is not drilled.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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| Subject: | Re: Stripped threads on tail nut. |
| From: | Rick Neilsen <neilsenrm(at)gmail.com> |
I have never had a problem with the wing nuts and the safety rings even in
deep grass. If you are that concerned you could try what I use on my prop.
I use a standard nut so I can get good torque readings then I put a nylock
nut on as a lock nut.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 9:00 AM, John Hauck wrote:
> ** **
>
> A problem with using a nyloc nut on the tail post is using a drilled
> bolt.As the nut passes the drilled hole it cuts the nylon out of the nut
> like a lathe,which pretty much negates the advantage of a locking nut.A
> tall castellated nut and a stainless lock ring are probably my best
> options.I found those locking rings at a marina that carried sailing boat
> accessories,
> G.Aman ****
>
> ** **
>
> * *
>
> ** **
>
> Kolbers:****
>
> ** **
>
> Use a bolt that is not drilled.****
>
> ** **
>
> john h****
>
> mkIII****
>
> Titus, Alabama****
>
> * *
>
> *
>
> *
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>
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| Subject: | Chestnut knolls CTAF |
| From: | Dennis Rowe <rowedenny(at)windstream.net> |
What frequency do they use at Kolb?
Dennis "Skid" Rowe
Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Chestnut knolls CTAF |
We usually use 123.45 for air to air. Should be good if you need to talk to
someone. No base station radio at CKAF.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
What frequency do they use at Kolb?
Dennis "Skid" Rowe
Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA
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| From: | Dennis Rowe <rowedenny(at)windstream.net> |
Looking like I won't be making it this weekend, :-( too much going on at home and
crap weather has only allowed one hour of flying so far this year so I'm not
comfortable heading out on so much of a journey. Heart sick.
Dennis "Skid" Rowe
Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
Looking like I won't be making it this weekend, :-( too much going on at
home and crap weather has only allowed one hour of flying so far this year
so I'm not comfortable heading out on so much of a journey. Heart sick.
Dennis "Skid" Rowe
Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA
Dennis R/Kolbers:
Sorry to hear that. Was looking forward to meeting you after all these
years.
Get a bunch of flying done this year, pack your bag, and we'll see you next
year at the 2014 Kolb Homecoming.
I'm departing today for Kentucky.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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| From: | Robert Gillisse <thermal_hunter2002(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Chestnut knolls CTAF |
Man!... I really wanted to go to this as a new owner of a Firestar...but th
e notice was short, and the season is young. I need a little more warm-up t
ime to make the 155 mi trip. =0A=0A=0AFrom: John Hauck <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.co
m>=0ATo: kolb-list(at)matronics.com =0ASent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 2:13 PM=0AS
ubject: RE: Kolb-List: Chestnut knolls CTAF=0A=0A=0A--> Kolb-List message p
osted by: "John Hauck" =0A=0AWe usually use 123.45 fo
r air to air.- Should be good if you need to talk to=0Asomeone.- No bas
e station radio at CKAF.=0A=0Ajohn h=0AmkIII=0ATitus, Alabama=0A=0A=0A=0AWh
at frequency do they use at Kolb?=0A=0ADennis "Skid" Rowe=0AMk3, 690L-70, L
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| Subject: | Re: 5 rib firestar |
| From: | "gyrodude" <gsafrit1(at)carolina.rr.com> |
I lucked out. It was a stuck ring. Theres no damage to the lower end. A new piston
and I;m back in business. I'm a lightweight so the 377 is all the power that
I need anyway. If anyone has need of a good Rotax mechanic D and F Aviation
in Goldsboro N.C. is an authorized service center. Dwight does a lot of boring
and sleeving for Lockwood, Leaf, CPS, etc. He works on all the two and four
stroke models. He's a retired F-15 mechanic and has been working on Rotaxes a
long time. he can be reached at 919-778-8816
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400684#400684
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| From: | Dennis Rowe <rowedenny(at)windstream.net> |
Thom,
I can't figure out how to reply to your private messages.
Could you give me a call?
Dennis "Skid" Rowe
Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA
Cell 724 882 6788
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| From: | JC Gilpin <j.gilpin(at)bigpond.com> |
Gday All,
All the talk of the Homecoming reminds me of sitting there last year and
listening to some of John Hauk's fascinating stories. I reckon he really
needs to write his Kolb adventures and experiences into a book. There's a
lot of fascinating adventures in there! And there's also some really good
lessons for all of us about how he managed tight spots that he encountered
on such trips. All that experience is a valuable resource that should be
spread around.
How about you guys who're going to the Homecoming put the hard word on him,
and the rest of you jump on the forum and push him more.
Wish I could be there.
Enjoy!
JG
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
How about you guys who're going to the Homecoming put the
hard word on him, and the rest of you jump on the forum and
push him more.
Wish I could be there.
Enjoy!
JG
JG/Kolbers:
I'll give the book deal some thought.
Arrived Kolb yesterday.
Chris Ambrose flew in right after I arrived.
James Tripp flew non-stop from Wetumpka Airport, Alabama, to
Labhart Field, KY, in 3:47 engine time. About 3.5 hours
flight time. That may be a record for the Kolb flyers from
the Wetumpka area.
So far the weather is cooperating. Nice and cool, overcast,
with a gentle breeze.
Looking forward to arrival of other Kolbers.
john h
mkIII
London, KY
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| From: | "Thumper" <dlong1957(at)yahoo.com> |
Well the rain and storm possibility between Memphis and London did not look good
last night, but this morning it is OK. But I won't make it with this late of
a start. I'll miss the guys and all of my friends at Kolb. I did get to visit
with Bryan and the gang at Sun-n-Fun so all isn't a loss. Have fun there
today.
Any of you that have places you love to visit or always wanted to visit in a plot
line from Flagstaff to Glacier national park, e-mail me off line for ideas.
Next summer I am planning on the inter mountain west as my summer trip. I am
planning on 30+ days if needed. E-mail me off line at dlong1957(at)yahoo.com for
all of your ideas.
John I am sure you have lots of them..... Of course Monument Valley and Larry's
are on my list.
All have fun at the Fly-in this weekend and I'll see you all again.
Dennis Long
Kolb Ultrastar 137hrs
Firestar 167hrs
Mark IIIC 234hrs
Aeroprakt A20 260hrs and rising.
All since January 1 2009
--------
Dennis Long
Oakland TN
2000 Aeroprakt A20 Vista Cruiser
Previously Kolb Mark IIIC, 94 Firestar, 84 Ultrastar.
600+hours since 1/1/2009
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400904#400904
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| From: | Bob Green <bgreen(at)bimi.org> |
| Subject: | RE: Kolb-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 05/17/13 |
John Hauck:
So glad you made it to London. Sure sad that I could not make the trip. I was
set to go Friday morning but had some health issues that made it unwise.
Hope you all have a great time. John, I agree a record of your life and experiences,
especially with the Kolb would be something worth doing. It would be well
worth reading. I am willing to help with $100 toward the cost of printing.
In today's market you can get a 100 page paperback book with a nice glossy
cover for about $2.00-$3.00 each.
I think it would be a great contribution to Mr. Kolb's legacy too.
Wishing I was there.
Bob Green
MKIIIX project
GPAS VW with re-drive
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| From: | "The Kuffels" <kuffel(at)cyberport.net> |
<< John, I agree a record of your life and experiences, especially with
the Kolb would be something worth doing. .. the cost of printing >>
CreateSpace.com (a division of Amazon) will print your book for no up-front
cost. You would have to create a properly formatted cover (my sister-in-law
does them for $150) and you need someone to transform your Word .doc text
(best starting point) into what they want. I can do that in exchange for a
promise to visit us again sometime soon.
Tom Kuffel
Whitefish, MT
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
I can do that in exchange for a promise to visit us again
sometime soon.
Tom Kuffel
Whitefish, MT
Thanks, Tom K/Bob G, for the info.
I'll get right to the task as soon as I find time.
May see Tom and Betty this summer in Whitefish. Montana
might be doable on my road trip this summer.
All is well at the Kolb Homecoming. Weather is not so great
today, but spirits are high, despite the rain and low
ceiling.
john h
mkIII
London, KY
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| Subject: | Re: Hauck's Book |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
It seems that with a fly-in, no matter what part of the country, it brings
out the best in the weather. Wish the weather was better, and wish I was
there.
Larry
On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 12:06 PM, John Hauck wrote:
>
>
> I can do that in exchange for a promise to visit us again
> sometime soon.
>
> Tom Kuffel
> Whitefish, MT
>
>
> Thanks, Tom K/Bob G, for the info.
>
> I'll get right to the task as soon as I find time.
>
> May see Tom and Betty this summer in Whitefish. Montana
> might be doable on my road trip this summer.
>
> All is well at the Kolb Homecoming. Weather is not so great
> today, but spirits are high, despite the rain and low
> ceiling.
>
> john h
> mkIII
> London, KY
>
>
--
*If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email
address before sending.*
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
It seems that with a fly-in, no matter what part of the
country, it brings out the best in the weather. Wish the
weather was better, and wish I was there.
Larry
Larry C/Kolbers:
Wish all the Kolbers could have been here for the
Homecoming. We have had a great time, not a lot of flying
and very few airplanes, but a lot of good conversation and
story telling. Could use some Larry's stories to keep the
ball rolling. About to run out of tales over here.
Had some good entertainment with Travis Brown on the 5
string banjo and Chris Ambrose on the guitar. First time
they had played together. They came out of the chute wide
open and playing like they had been together for years. A
good way to brighten up a cool, gray day.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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| From: | "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
Hi,
Does anyone have any news of my friend Big Lar.
I have e-mailed him a couple of times and had no response.
Pat
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | David Kulp <undoctor(at)ptd.net> |
| Subject: | Credit card ripoff |
Hi Kolbers,
Question: has anyone recently bought parts from one of the leading
aircraft parts sellers, paid by credit card and then in a few days find
out someone used your CC number and made a large purchase?
I had an odd experience just before someone tried to use my credit card,
first for a $.97 purchase and when that was successful, to make a
purchase of over $600 online with my card. I bought about $125 worth of
parts from a noted seller by phone and paid with a credit card. I
ordered the parts from a man. Later that day a woman called and said my
CC was declined and to give her the number again because they couldn't
ship the parts unless it was paid. So I did, plus the expiration date
and security code on the back. She then said oh, that's the number she
had and it worked this time. That was strange to me - never ever had a
call like that from a seller - and I buy a lot of things by phone and
online. Then a few days later my CC was stolen.
I'm not saying this person took my number, but if anyone else has had
this happen, the pattern is definitely worth reporting.
Dave Kulp
Bethlehem, PA
FireFly (almost repaired) 11DMK
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| From: | "b young" <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Credit card ripoff |
if you are going to purchase parts for your kolb or anything online... best
to get a card with a $500.00 limit.... that way if the number gets
compromised... you have a limit that wont bankrupt you.
boyd young
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
-----Original Message-----
From: David Kulp
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 1:58 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Credit card ripoff
Hi Kolbers,
Question: has anyone recently bought parts from one of the leading
aircraft parts sellers, paid by credit card and then in a few days find
out someone used your CC number and made a large purchase?
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Charlie England <ceengland7(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Credit card ripoff |
Every *credit* card I've ever had, had a max of a $50 stop loss for
fraudulent use. The companies I have used for many years even waive the
$50. I've even gotten calls from their security people asking if I made
a particular purchase at a particular location (and they never ask for
any numbers/passwords, etc). In-person purchases in widely different
locales have triggered a call, and purchases outside my normal buying
habits have triggered a call, too.
I'm a lot more paranoid with a *debit* card.
FWIW,
Charlie
On 05/21/2013 03:57 PM, b young wrote:
>
> if you are going to purchase parts for your kolb or anything
> online... best to get a card with a $500.00 limit.... that way if
> the number gets compromised... you have a limit that wont bankrupt you.
>
> boyd young
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: David Kulp
> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 1:58 PM
> To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Kolb-List: Credit card ripoff
>
>
> Hi Kolbers,
>
> Question: has anyone recently bought parts from one of the leading
> aircraft parts sellers, paid by credit card and then in a few days find
> out someone used your CC number and made a large purchase?
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Credit card ripoff |
| From: | "Ralph B" <rstar447(at)gmail.com> |
Dave, please give us the name of the major parts store that you were buying from.
If you pay with a bank debit card and someone steals your card number making
a purchase, call the bank and they will go after that person. I once bought
a GPS online for $426 and never received it. My wife told me to call the bank.
They took care of it and reimbursed my account. There are crooks everywhere,
and I found this out the hard way when they broke into my hanger and stole my
engine, panel, headsets, battery, and $8500 of other things in the hanger. That's
$25,500 in one night. I'm a lot more careful and watchful now.
Ralph B
--------
Ralph B
Original Firestar 447
N91493 E-AB
1000+ hours
26 years flying it
Kolbra 912ULS
N20386
200 hours
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401125#401125
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| From: | David Kulp <undoctor(at)ptd.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Credit card ripoff |
Hi Ralph,
Holy cow, that's grounds for a lynching!!!! Fortunately it hasn't cost
me anything financially as I'm not responsible for unauthorized charges
on my account (which is why I NEVER use a debit card under any
circumstances). I received a fraud alert phone call and confirmed that
the charges were not mine. What it does cost me is the annoyance of
having to update many automatic charges I have directed to the credit card.
I won't say which company it is if no one else has had a similar
occurrence because I don't want to put a blemish on anyone's business
reputation unless I am 100% sure it happened there. However, if this
type of thing happened to another lister I will compare notes and if
it's the same company I will surely blow the whistle!
On 5/22/2013 2:10 PM, Ralph B wrote:
>
> Dave, please give us the name of the major parts store that you were buying from.
If you pay with a bank debit card and someone steals your card number making
a purchase, call the bank and they will go after that person. I once bought
a GPS online for $426 and never received it. My wife told me to call the bank.
They took care of it and reimbursed my account. There are crooks everywhere,
and I found this out the hard way when they broke into my hanger and stole my
engine, panel, headsets, battery, and $8500 of other things in the hanger. That's
$25,500 in one night. I'm a lot more careful and watchful now.
>
> Ralph B
>
> --------
> Ralph B
> Original Firestar 447
> N91493 E-AB
> 1000+ hours
> 26 years flying it
>
> Kolbra 912ULS
> N20386
> 200 hours
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401125#401125
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 503 Oil question |
| From: | "Skel" <mursall(at)yahoo.com> |
I've been using Amsoil interceptor oil in a Rotax 503 as well as MX bikes, and
other 2 stroke engines for years. Great stuff and never had any issues. You
can't go wrong with this oil.
--------
96 Kolb Mark 3 Classic - Factory quick build kit that is unfinished
02 Chinook Plus 2, 582 Rotax - Registered AULA
05 Challenger 2 503 Rotax - 150 hrs experience
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401264#401264
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| From: | "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
Thanks everyone,
Lar has e-mailed me today saying that several people on the list had
contacted him and passed the message on..
Pat
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| From: | kinne russ <russk50(at)gmail.com> |
Pat
When time permits, if you can, pls tell me where & how Big Lar is
Thanx
Russ
On May 19, 2013, at 6:28 AM, Pat Ladd wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Does anyone have any news of my friend Big Lar.
>
> I have e-mailed him a couple of times and had no response.
>
> Pat
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: 5 rib firestar |
| From: | "gyrodude" <gsafrit1(at)carolina.rr.com> |
My Rotax is back from the shop. I need to break it in. What is the best way to
tie the plane down. Is the tailwheel assembly strong enough? Thanks.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401300#401300
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| From: | Herb <herbgh(at)nctc.com> |
| Subject: | Re: 5 rib firestar |
That is the way I do it... Firefly with 447....Herb
On 05/24/2013 03:18 PM, gyrodude wrote:
>
> My Rotax is back from the shop. I need to break it in. What is the best way to
tie the plane down. Is the tailwheel assembly strong enough? Thanks.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401300#401300
>
>
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| From: | Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: 5 rib firestar |
I know one thing you ought to do! Tie that tail wheel DOWN so it can't rai
se up under high power thrust!!
Lots of guys assumed just tying it to a tree was all it needed. Wrong! Un
der full throttle=2C it will rise up as the main gear wheels will roll rewa
rd!
Mike Welch
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: 5 rib firestar
> From: gsafrit1(at)carolina.rr.com
> Date: Fri=2C 24 May 2013 13:18:19 -0700
> To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
>
>
> My Rotax is back from the shop. I need to break it in. What is the best w
ay to tie the plane down. Is the tailwheel assembly strong enough? Thanks.
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401300#401300
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
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| From: | Robert Gillisse <thermal_hunter2002(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: 5 rib firestar |
I double-loop the rope around the boom, and tie the stick back so the eleva
tor is up. =0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Mike Welch
=0ATo: kolb-list(at)matronics.com =0ASent: Friday, Ma
y 24, 2013 6:00 PM=0ASubject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: 5 rib firestar=0A=0A=0A=0A
I know one thing you ought to do!--Tie that tail wheel DOWN so it can't
raise up under high power thrust!!=0A=0ALots of guys assumed just tying it
to a tree was all it needed.--Wrong!--Under full throttle, it will
rise up as the main gear wheels will roll reward!=0A=0AMike Welch=0A=0A> S
ubject: Kolb-List: Re: 5 rib firestar=0A> From: gsafrit1(at)carolina.rr.com=0A
> Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 13:18:19 -0700=0A> To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com=0A>
>=0A> =0A> My Rotax is back from the shop. I need to break it in. What is t
he best way to tie the plane down. Is the tailwheel assembly strong enough?
Thanks.=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> Read this topic online here:=0A> =0A> http
://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401300#401300=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A>
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| Subject: | anybody using a Rotax 670 in a Kolb Mk III? |
| From: | "lownslow" <mnmcouillard(at)yahoo.com> |
Hi there
I'm a newbie to the list and don't know that I've quite figured out how to search
the archives for this question. But i am wondering if anyone has used a Rotax
670 from Rotax Rick to power their Mk III Classic. I'm in Colorado and need
the extra HP but can't quite bring myself to break the bank for a 912. Seems
like Rick has them priced well. Would love to hear the experience folks have
with this aircraft/engine combination
Many thanks!
Mike
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401311#401311
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| Subject: | breakast flight to 38D |
| From: | Gary Aman <zeprep251(at)aol.com> |
Just a nice flight for a couple MK3's.Anyone else ever been there?
G.Aman MK3C Jabiru 2200A 800 hrs
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| Subject: | Re: Credit card ripoff |
| From: | Duane Ransdell <radiobluebook(at)gmail.com> |
It sounds like all too big of a coincidence to me. Did the person identify
themselves as from the company you had just purchased something from or did
they just phish it out of you? I am the "operator" for incoming calls where
I work. I have had people call up with some crazy stories. When you
question a scammer for specific details or call back numbers, they will
usually hang up. They're looking for easy targets and don't want to waste
time with someone who asks too many questions.
The good news is that you are not liable for the purchases someone else
made to your credit card.
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 2:58 PM, David Kulp wrote:
>
> Hi Kolbers,
>
> Question: has anyone recently bought parts from one of the leading
> aircraft parts sellers, paid by credit card and then in a few days find out
> someone used your CC number and made a large purchase?
>
> I had an odd experience just before someone tried to use my credit card,
> first for a $.97 purchase and when that was successful, to make a purchase
> of over $600 online with my card. I bought about $125 worth of parts from
> a noted seller by phone and paid with a credit card. I ordered the parts
> from a man. Later that day a woman called and said my CC was declined and
> to give her the number again because they couldn't ship the parts unless it
> was paid. So I did, plus the expiration date and security code on the
> back. She then said oh, that's the number she had and it worked this time.
> That was strange to me - never ever had a call like that from a seller -
> and I buy a lot of things by phone and online. Then a few days later my CC
> was stolen.
>
> I'm not saying this person took my number, but if anyone else has had this
> happen, the pattern is definitely worth reporting.
>
> Dave Kulp
> Bethlehem, PA
> FireFly (almost repaired) 11DMK
>
>
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| From: | chris davis <capedavis(at)yahoo.com> |
kolbers, Anyone ever run a free air rotax on a KOLB aircraft?=0A-=0AChris
Davis=0AKXP 503 492 hrs=0AGlider Pilot=0ADisabled from crash building Fire
fly
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| From: | "Eddie" <e.bayliss(at)blueyonder.co.uk> |
Hi All
Eddie from Liverpool, Uk.
I only occasionally post but read the everything here on the list
whenever I am home .
I took a shortflight across the rivers Mersey and Dee up the welsh coast
on saturday evening with my 12 year old Grandson ( a Keen Kolb
passenger since he was about 7 yrs old ) He took a bit of video on our
return to Ince Blundel from about midway across the River Dee along the
Wirral coastline so I have posted it on you tube for anyone interested
to have a peek at .
Eddie BAyliss
Klb mk 111
Rotax 582
Arplast 3 blade 62" prop
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| From: | David Kulp <undoctor(at)ptd.net> |
Eddie,
The youtube link didn't come through with your post.
Dave Kulp
Bethlehem, PA
FireFly 11DMK
On 5/27/2013 11:04 AM, Eddie wrote:
> *Hi All *
> * Eddie from Liverpool, Uk.*
> * I only occasionally post but read the everything here on the list
> whenever I am home .
> *I took a shortflight across the rivers Mersey and Dee up the welsh
> coast on saturday evening with my 12 year old Grandson ( a Keen Kolb
> passenger since he was about 7 yrs old ) He took a bit of video on our
> return to Ince Blundel from about midway across the River Dee along
> the Wirral coastline so I have posted it on you tube for anyone
> interested to have a peek at .
> Eddie BAyliss
> Klb mk 111
> Rotax 582
> Arplast 3 blade 62" prop
> *
>
>
> *
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
I have posted it on you tube for anyone interested to have a peek at .
Eddie BAyliss
Hi Eddie:
Thanks for posting.
Do you have a URL for the clip?
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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| From: | "Eddie" <e.bayliss(at)blueyonder.co.uk> |
Oops
Try again then sorry about that just checked and its still editing
the clip so give it 10 mins or so and should be good then I hope
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXzf0V022xk
Eddie
----- Original Message -----
From: David Kulp
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: vidoe clip
Eddie,
The youtube link didn't come through with your post.
Dave Kulp
Bethlehem, PA
FireFly 11DMK
On 5/27/2013 11:04 AM, Eddie wrote:
Hi All
Eddie from Liverpool, Uk.
I only occasionally post but read the everything here on the list
whenever I am home .
I took a shortflight across the rivers Mersey and Dee up the welsh
coast on saturday evening with my 12 year old Grandson ( a Keen Kolb
passenger since he was about 7 yrs old ) He took a bit of video on our
return to Ince Blundel from about midway across the River Dee along the
Wirral coastline so I have posted it on you tube for anyone interested
to have a peek at .
Eddie BAyliss
Klb mk 111
Rotax 582
Arplast 3 blade 62" prop
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| From: | "Eddie" <e.bayliss(at)blueyonder.co.uk> |
have just reposted it John (with a link ) Sorry about that unless you
are a two stroke fan turn the sound down cos all you will hear is the
motor .I will have to work out how to do a voice over or misic or
something one day when I have time to play with the computer ( instead
of the Kolb )
Eddie
----- Original Message -----
From: John Hauck
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 4:19 PM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: vidoe clip
I have posted it on you tube for anyone interested to have a peek at
.
Eddie BAyliss
Hi Eddie: Thanks for posting. Do you have a URL for the clip? john
hmkIIITitus, Alabama
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| Subject: | Re: free air rotax |
| From: | Dennis Rowe <rowedenny(at)windstream.net> |
Don't do it, you'd just be asking for trouble. All three rotax fan cooled en
gines will overheat even in tractor applications without a good free air sco
op and that's with the prop blowing right on them.
Put a fan cooled engine on your Kolb and you'll have no issues.
Dennis "Skid" Rowe
Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA
PS:
I designed and used to sell Free Air scoops for Rotax engines and I would ne
ver have sold one for a pusher application.
On May 27, 2013, at 10:46 AM, chris davis wrote:
> kolbers, Anyone ever run a free air rotax on a KOLB aircraft?
>
> Chris Davis
> KXP 503 492 hrs
> Glider Pilot
> Disabled from crash building Firefly
>
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
have just reposted it John (with a link ) Sorry about that unless you are a
two stroke fan turn the sound down cos all you will hear is the motor .I
will have to work out how to do a voice over or misic or something one day
when I have time to play with the computer ( instead of the Kolb )
Eddie
Eddie:
More fun to fly the Kolb than attempt to learn video clip editing.
Enjoyed the visit to your country and the countryside via your MKIII.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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| Subject: | Re: anybody using a Rotax 670 in a Kolb Mk III? |
| From: | "Arizona Flyer" <heracesthesun(at)yahoo.com> |
I don't have experience with the 670 but I have a high regard for Rotax Rick. I doubt you'll find a more experienced & knowledgeable Rotax mechanic than Rick. I bought a used Firestar II with a Rotax 503 that he rebuilt and it runs beautiful. I told him my 12 year old engine looks brand new and he said he always sand blasts the outer casing during a rebuild. Here is a thread about the Rotax 670 that Rick does, very interesting... http://ppcflyingforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8540
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| From: | chris davis <capedavis(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: free air rotax |
Skid,Gotya I never had a problem with my 503 but will have to buy fan and s
hrouds for the 377 .The mech I bought it from said he never ran shrouds but
it was a tractor any body got shrouds and a fan?=0A-=0AChris Davis=0AKXP
503 492 hrs=0AGlider Pilot=0ADisabled from crash building Firefly=0A=0A=0A
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tream.net>=0A>To: "kolb-list(at)matronics.com" =0A>S
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otax fan cooled engines will overheat even in tractor applications without
a good free air scoop and that's with the prop blowing right on them.=0A>Pu
t a fan cooled engine on your Kolb and you'll have no issues.=0A>=0A>Dennis
"Skid" Rowe=0A>Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA=0A>PS:=0A>I designed and used t
o sell Free Air scoops for Rotax engines and I would never have sold one fo
r a pusher application.=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>On May 27, 2013, at 10:46 AM, ch
ris davis wrote:=0A>=0A>=0A>kolbers, Anyone ever run
a free air rotax on a KOLB aircraft?=0A>>-=0A>>Chris Davis=0A>>KXP 503 49
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| From: | "Eddie" <e.bayliss(at)blueyonder.co.uk> |
Thanks John
.I am waiting for delivery of a bullet type sports camera and when I
figure out the mounting I want ,and how to use it I am planning on doing
a few more videos . they will only be local flights around the immediate
area mainly because thats where I fly . Im not into didstances that
would be too much like being back in work .I dont particuarly want to go
far as long as I can go up
Eddie
----- Original Message -----
From: John Hauck
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 7:01 PM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: vidoe clip
have just reposted it John (with a link ) Sorry about that unless you
are a two stroke fan turn the sound down cos all you will hear is the
motor .I will have to work out how to do a voice over or misic or
something one day when I have time to play with the computer ( instead
of the Kolb )
Eddie
Eddie:
More fun to fly the Kolb than attempt to learn video clip editing.
Enjoyed the visit to your country and the countryside via your MKIII.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | MKIII Crash 1 July 2000, Muncho Lake, BC |
This is the airstrip I wiped out my landing gear and damaged left wing and
aileron. The Otter is attempting to take off to the north. I landed to the
south. The gravel strip has been greatly improved since I made my landing
there. The road that crosses the strip was a small two track with deep
ruts. When I hit them, it triggered the gear leg/axle socket failure.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0DEb0M6wt4
I think this is a hard luck strip, at Muncho Lake, BC.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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| Subject: | Re: free air rotax |
| From: | "wakataka" <wakataka(at)charter.net> |
I run a free air 277 as a pusher, but I've had to dink with it a lot to make it
happy. Melted two pistons before I figured out how to make it work. It's running
richer than spec, but with synthetic oil the carbon build up is manageable.
The 277 is easy to decarbon, so I just do it often. I don't think I'd try to
run any of the two cylinder Rotax engines as a pusher. On the 277, the fins on
the head are aligned with the slipstream. On the others, I believe they are
crosswise to the silpstream, which would not make for good cooling airflow.
You might consider getting the fan and shroud off a snowmobile engine. SkiDoo had
377's in their sleds from the mid eighties until the early 90's and maybe beyond.
Most of the parts are interchangeable with the 377UL. I have a 377 from
a 1992 Skandic. There is vent hose coming out of the cooling shroud that was
routed to the exhaust pipe in the sled. When you remove it, you're left with a
silver-dollar sized hole in the shroud that can be easily patched with a bit
of sheet metal, like the lid from a soup can, for example. I bought the whole
sled for $150 and sold parts off it to make back most of my investment, keeping
just the engine, which I plan to build up as a spare for my Firestar.
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| Subject: | Re: free air rotax |
| From: | "wakataka" <wakataka(at)charter.net> |
There's a 377 shroud listed on E-bay. It's off a sled motor. You can see the hole
I mentioned in my previous post.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/377-447-Rotax-Engine-Tins-/140985842083?pt=Motors_Aviation_Parts_Gear&hash=item20d36939a3&vxp=mtr
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| From: | chris davis <capedavis(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: free air rotax |
Wakataka,I think- thats what ill do ebay has a lot of 377 snow machine pa
rts do they ever have tha Aluminum shrouds ? I found a complete fan assembl
y for $24=0A=0A, so ill keep lookin Im not in a big hurry as I havent cover
ed her yet probably take another year before I ll need an engine-. thanks
for your input sounds like you have been there =0AChris Davis=0AKXP 503 49
2 hrs=0AGlider Pilot=0ADisabled from crash building Firefly=0A=0A=0A>______
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"wakataka" =0A>=0A>There's a 377 shroud listed on E-b
ay. It's off a sled motor. You can see the hole I mentioned in my previous
post.=0A>=0A>http://www.ebay.com/itm/377-447-Rotax-Engine-Tins-/14098584208
3?pt=Motors_Aviation_Parts_Gear&hash=item20d36939a3&vxp=mtr=0A>=0A>--
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| Subject: | Re: free air rotax |
| From: | "wakataka" <wakataka(at)charter.net> |
Chris - I'm not a snowmobile expert, but I don't believe the aluminum shrouds were
ever used on sleds. Weight is not a big issue there and aluminum is more expensive
and not as durable as steel. I think many if not most of the newer Rotax
UL engines use the steel shrouds. I've only seen aluminum ones on the older
UL engines.
Keep in mind that sleds often used dual carburetors, so the shrouds on the carb
side might need some modification if you went with the single carb UL set up.
I'm not sure if there was ever a single carb sled motor or not.
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| Subject: | Crash here in South Carolina |
| From: | "Carolina Flyer" <joe.a.lawson(at)gmail.com> |
link for video
http://www.foxcarolina.com/story/22431151/authorities-on-scene-of-fountain-inn-plane-crash
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Kolb Firestar II
503 C-Box / RK400
Soon to have a
Rotax 670 DCDI
with a C-Box and
RK 400 Clutch
Challenger II
503 Tall Drive
Location : Buffalo South Carolina
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| From: | william sullivan <williamtsullivan(at)att.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Crash here in South Carolina |
- Looks like an old Firestar.- Anyone know who?
-------------------------
--------------- Bill Sullivan
--- On Tue, 5/28/13, Carolina Flyer wrote:
From: Carolina Flyer <joe.a.lawson(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Crash here in South Carolina
Date: Tuesday, May 28, 2013, 12:26 PM
link for video
http://www.foxcarolina.com/story/22431151/authorities-on-scene-of-fountain-
inn-plane-crash
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Kolb Firestar II
503 C-Box / RK400
Soon to have a
Rotax 670 DCDI
with a C-Box and
RK 400 Clutch
Challenger II
503 Tall Drive
Location :- Buffalo South Carolina
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| Subject: | BMW Engine Application |
| From: | "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com> |
BMW Engine Application
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| Subject: | Re: BMW Engine Application |
| From: | "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com> |
A few more shots, I've invited the owner to my strip, when I get the low down I'll
post it here on the Forum.
Cheers
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| From: | "Andy and Sheila Slinkard" <andysheila(at)eltopia.com> |
Kolbers,
Would be interested in hearing what prop to fuselage tube clearance you
are running? Particularly those with HKS or Rotax engines.
Thanks,
Andy
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
Would be interested in hearing what prop to fuselage tube clearance you are
running? Particularly those with HKS or Rotax engines.
Thanks,
Andy
Working from memory, which is dangerous, I have run 1.5" (recommended by
Kolb) down to .75", with engines from 582 to 912ULS.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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| From: | "Andy and Sheila Slinkard" <andysheila(at)eltopia.com> |
Attention John and Larry,
Thanks John for the reply, my clearance is perfect.
Larry, what is the latest on the Rock House gathering?
Andy
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| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
June 29 through July 6th or when we get tired of each other.
I was interested in the type of prop, and was wondering if the one pictured
might be a bit heavy for the gear box? Just asking.
Larry
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Larry, according to Powerfin the low moment-of-inertia mass is perfect
for this engine, gear box B, prop length. (below three thousand KG/CM2).
Andy
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June 29 through July 6th or when we get tired of each other.
I was interested in the type of prop, and was wondering if the one
pictured might be a bit heavy for the gear box? Just asking.
Larry
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Good, I will be interested in seeing how it performs, preferably side by
side comparison. How about it, you going to be ready by the end of June?
Larry
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Good, I will be interested in seeing how it performs, preferably side
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June?
Larry
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Andy
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Larry
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June?
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Andy
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| Subject: | Re: Prop clearance |
| From: | "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
Depends on how flexible your prop is, and your tolerance for noise. With a non-flexible
prop, you can do like John does and run the bare minimum. With a flexible
prop, 4" might not be enough.
Also, the further away, the quieter. (And yes, I do have an Ivo hub extension to
sell...)
Also, I still have a Firestar II left wing to get rid of. Free. Come get it and
haul it off.
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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
Attention John and Larry,
Thanks John for the reply, my clearance is perfect.
Larry, what is the latest on the Rock House gathering?
Andy
FS is looking good.
Looking forward to seeing you at the Rock House.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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| Subject: | Re: BMW Engine Application |
I had a BMW on my MKIII and I took it off to mount a Yamaha engine. I still have
all the hardware to mount the engine to the airframe and a rotax "C" gearbox
to the engine. I do not have the gearbox any more. If anyone is interested
in purchasing it I would be willing to sell both items for $300 plus shipping
Jason
Portland, OR
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| Subject: | Rotax 912 ULS for Sale |
I have a 300 hour 912 ULS for sale. It has a prop extension, exhaust, oil tank,
radiator, oil cooler and EIS with 4 EGT, CHT, Altimeter, Fuel Flow, Airspeed,
and vairo. I also have a 68" fast taper warp drive prop. I will let the whole
package go for 14K plus shipping.
Contact me through the list
Jason
Portland, OR
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 912 ULS for Sale |
| From: | "jcooley380" <jcooley380(at)att.net> |
Jason Omelchuck wrote:
> I have a 300 hour 912 ULS for sale. It has a prop extension, exhaust, oil tank,
radiator, oil cooler and EIS with 4 EGT, CHT, Altimeter, Fuel Flow, Airspeed,
and vairo. I also have a 68" fast taper warp drive prop. I will let the whole
package go for 14K plus shipping.
>
> Contact me through the list
> Jason
> Portland, OR
Hi Jason,
Sent you a PM.
J. Cooley
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| Subject: | 6/2/13 Grandson Joel gets a Kolbra ride |
| From: | "Ralph B" <rstar447(at)gmail.com> |
I gave a ride to my grandson Joel yesterday.
Here is a link to the video:
http://youtu.be/4K39hKsVCR8
Ralph B
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Ralph B
Original Firestar 447
N91493 E-AB
1000+ hours
26 years flying it
Kolbra 912ULS
N20386
200 hours
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| Subject: | Re: BMW Engine Application |
| From: | "Coastie" <alkor(at)comcast.net> |
Sent PM
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| From: | "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
Herb came down from Kentucky today and got the FSII wings. Cleaning out the hangar
is going nicely... This is a picture of us with them loaded on top of his
car.
Will be looking forward to seeing what sort of flying machine he puts them on -
after all, Kolb wings ought to work on just about anything!
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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Hebrews 11:1
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| From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Pizza wheel wanted |
If not, try a snowmobile shop... it's a track roller.
Dana
At 11:56 AM 6/4/2013, wakataka wrote:
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>Dennis -
>Is that pizza cutter wheel still available? If so, you can contact me offline
--
We are born naked, wet, and hungry. Then things get worse.
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Pizza wheel wanted |
If not, try a snowmobile shop... it's a track roller.
Dana
Is that pizza cutter wheel still available? If so, you can contact me
offline
.........................
Recommend giving Travis at Kolb Aircraft a call. He may have them.
Email address for Customer Support at Kolb Aircraft Company:
customersupport(at)kolbaircraft.com
Kolb Aircraft Company
8375 Russell Dyche Hwy.
London, KY 40741
Phone (606) 862-9692
Fax (606) 862-9622
Office hours are from
9:00 am to 4:00 pm Eastern
Monday through Friday.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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| Subject: | Re: Pizza wheel wanted |
| From: | "wakataka" <wakataka(at)charter.net> |
I e-mailed Kolb a couple of weeks ago but got no response.
There's no snowmobile shops nearby, so I went online and looked at about 50 different
track wheels. I ordered one that looked to be the right part. When it arrived,
it was the right dimensions, but it has no rubber on it. It's just a hard
plastic wheel.
I like the looks of the one from Dunn and Co, but it would require some cutting
and welding because it's 1/2" larger diameter than my bracket will accept.
http://www.dunncasters.com/default.aspx?page=item%20detail&itemcode=2.00005.565
Martin B.
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There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale returns of
conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact.
Mark Twain
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| Subject: | Sprot aviation mag..... |
| From: | "Rick Lewis" <cktman(at)wildblue.net> |
Does any anyone know of a other organization that is more oriented toward the home
built people than EAA. I just received another Sport Aviation magazine, and
after flipping thorough it I through it in the trash. I really don't care
what piper and such are doing. I want to know about the home builders and what
there doing and there progress. I want to see builder tips, good and bad.
I have said in the pass that I would not resubscribe to EAA and after this subscription
runs out, I'm done....
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Rick Lewis
(VW Watercooled Engine)
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| From: | "The Kuffels" <kuffel(at)cyberport.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Sprot aviation mag..... |
They are not an organization but Kitplanes is almost exclusively focused
on Experimental Amateur Built. They deserve our support. But my view
is biased as they publish my electronic project articles.
Tom Kuffel
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| Subject: | Re: Sprot aviation mag..... |
| From: | Gary Aman <zeprep251(at)aol.com> |
Tom,
Seems as though they go through cycles.They try to get back to their roots,
but it only lasts a few issues and it's back to the high dollar stuff.Do t
hey not get information from our segment of aviation or do they not care?Ou
r group here in Ohio has completed 4 new aircraft since 2004,but I don't th
ink anyone of them has sent pictures or articles to EAA about their project
s.It might be our problem.Thom R. used to write for them,he might share som
e insight.
G.Aman.mostly in agreement.
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From: The Kuffels <kuffel(at)cyberport.net>
Sent: Wed, Jun 5, 2013 6:22 pm
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Sprot aviation mag.....
They are not an organization but Kitplanes is almost exclusively focused on
Experimental Amateur Built. They deserve our support. But my view is bia
sed as they publish my electronic project articles.
Tom Kuffel
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| Subject: | Re: Sprot aviation mag..... |
| From: | "ddoi" <ddoi67(at)yahoo.com> |
Have you heard of the Sport Aviation Association (SAA) yet?:
Their site:
http://www.sportaviationassociation.org/index.html
>From their About page:
"The Sport Aviation Association is an organization founded by Paul H. Poberezny
to help maintain what we know as grass roots aviation. Before you read further,
it is important that you know and understand that we are NOT in competition
with EAA. We want to complement EAA's efforts and help retain the heritage
of the amateur aircraft builder. Our mission is not political - it is simply
to encourage the fun, fellowship, and camaraderie that is so special and unique
to aviation."
Ed Fisher is president. Membership is by donation and they send out a quarterly
publication (PDF) with a password. It has a strong focus on how to and homebuilding.
To me, it's like the original/older Sport Aviation magazines I've read
from EAA's archives.
Dai
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| From: | "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com> |
Subject: Wing Loading
I post this for the many new pilots learning to fly Kolbs for the first time.
While the airplane with the highly loaded wing can safely operate in very windy
and turbulent conditions if the pilot is trained and skilled, the lightly loaded
wing simply reaches a limit where the best pilot cant safely fly it.The LSA
a lightly loaded wing will bounce around more and be harder to control and
can be ground looped easily and go off the side of the runway frequently on
a windy day .
Learning to recognize our limits as pilots is crucial, but when it comes to an
airplane with a very low wing loading, we must understand that the airplane has
its own gust and turbulence limitations that cannot be ignored. If you are moving
down to an LSA or other airplane you certainly need specific training to
accommodate the differences in performance and flying qualities. But you also
need training to understand that wind gusts, crosswinds, and turbulence that
other popular production singles can handle are beyond the limits of an airplane
with a very lightly loaded wing.
"A man's got to know his limitations"
Harry Callahan (Clint Eastwood)
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| Subject: | Re: Know your Kolb |
| From: | "Ralph B" <rstar447(at)gmail.com> |
Knowing any aircraft comes with experience in type. Transitioning to the Kolbra
from a Firestar wasn't too hard, but I would say for the average pilot transitioning
from a big airplane to a Firestar would be tougher due the high drag and
light wing loading. There have been many accidents attributed to big plane
pilots flying ultralights and Light Sport after flying the big ones. The classic
example is flaring too early on landing and stalling the airplane. It comes
down hard and bends the gear. How many times have we heard about that one? When
I carry a pilot who has never flown in the Kolbra and he wants to land it,
I warn him about flaring too early and am ready to push that stick forward as
we get closer to landing. They simply aren't used to it and old habits are embedded
in them.
Ralph B
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Ralph B
Original Firestar 447
N91493 E-AB
1000+ hours
26 years flying it
Kolbra 912ULS
N20386
200 hours
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Know your Kolb |
When I carry a pilot who has never flown in the Kolbra and he wants to
land it, I warn him about flaring too early and am ready to push that stick
forward as we get closer to landing. They simply aren't used to it and old
habits are embedded in them.
Ralph B
Ralph B/Kolbers:
Seems pretty simple to me, but as many landings as I have done in Kolbs over
the years, I still can get too slow and drop it in.
I think what it boils down to is keeping the air speed above stall speed
until on the ground, or a few inches above the ground.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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| From: | David Kulp <undoctor(at)ptd.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Know your Kolb |
Or, as Homer so eloquently stated it in the instruction manual, to
keep your eye on your airspeed or "...the ground will come up to smite
thee."
Dave Kulp
Bethlehem, PA
FireFly 11DMK
On 6/6/2013 12:10 PM, John Hauck wrote:
>
>
> When I carry a pilot who has never flown in the Kolbra and he wants to
> land it, I warn him about flaring too early and am ready to push that stick
> forward as we get closer to landing. They simply aren't used to it and old
> habits are embedded in them.
>
> Ralph B
>
>
>
> Ralph B/Kolbers:
>
> Seems pretty simple to me, but as many landings as I have done in Kolbs over
> the years, I still can get too slow and drop it in.
>
> I think what it boils down to is keeping the air speed above stall speed
> until on the ground, or a few inches above the ground.
>
> john h
> mkIII
> Titus, Alabama
>
>
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| From: | Charlie England <ceengland7(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Sprot aviation mag..... |
On 06/05/2013 03:16 PM, Rick Lewis wrote:
>
> Does any anyone know of a other organization that is more oriented toward the
home built people than EAA. I just received another Sport Aviation magazine,
and after flipping thorough it I through it in the trash. I really don't care
what piper and such are doing. I want to know about the home builders and what
there doing and there progress. I want to see builder tips, good and bad.
I have said in the pass that I would not resubscribe to EAA and after this subscription
runs out, I'm done....
>
> --------
> Rick Lewis
>
> (VW Watercooled Engine)
>
I wholeheartedly agree about the magazine content. The focus has been
wrong for many years, but it's not too surprising. For an analogy, think
about typical high-end car magazines. Only a tiny fraction of the
subscribers will ever own a car that's covered in the magazine; almost
all are only dreamers and very few have any hope of actually owning
$400,000 car. Same applies to current SA readers; the market becomes so
much larger when you include the spam can drivers & those who don't even
fly. I've only been to OSH once in about a decade (and then only because
a friend basically begged me to go) because OSH is even worse than the
magazine. You can't find the airplanes among all the steak knives &
folding ladders. However....
They do a pretty good job of lobbying the Gub'mint. And some of them
seem to have re-discovered the old Experimenter spirit in the how-to
videos they are now producing. So, I've decided that 'Airventure' will
see no more of my money, but I will continue my membership to support
their lobbying efforts and the tiny fraction that still supports us.
Maybe we should all just campaign for a 2 tiered membership, where we
can pay 1/2 price & they can keep the new incarnation of Flying Magazine.
Charlie
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| From: | "The Kuffels" <kuffel(at)cyberport.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Sprot aviation mag..... |
Gary,
<< Seems as though they go through cycles...don't think anyone of them
has sent pictures or articles to EAA >>
Very long cycles indeed. I didn't even pitch my project articles to EAA
because it seemed they hadn't had a real how-to since the Roncz series
on airplane design about 13 years ago.
Another question with them is I can't find an Author's Guide anywhere.
This leaves the impression they only pay for articles from their
in-house "Contributing Writers". The rest of us are supposed to
volunteer a la Oshkosh?
Tom Kuffel
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| Subject: | Re: Sprot aviation mag..... |
| From: | Gary Aman <zeprep251(at)aol.com> |
Tom,
You probably saw that post about the SSA. At our last NCLF meeting last fal
l we had the Wright Brothers as guest speakers,two NASA engineers who show
up in costume and talk and answer questions,show films,all as if they were
the real Wil and Orv.They are OUTSTANDING. But the guy from SAA was there a
s well,only by happen stance,pitching his organization.I think we could hav
e given him a little more attention but he was really upstaged by the Wrigh
ts.This may be a better fit for our kind of flying.
G.Aman
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From: The Kuffels <kuffel(at)cyberport.net>
Sent: Thu, Jun 6, 2013 4:53 pm
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Sprot aviation mag.....
Gary,
<< Seems as though they go through cycles...don't think anyone of them has
sent pictures or articles to EAA >>
Very long cycles indeed. I didn't even pitch my project articles to EAA be
cause it seemed they hadn't had a real how-to since the Roncz series on air
plane design about 13 years ago.
Another question with them is I can't find an Author's Guide anywhere. Thi
s leaves the impression they only pay for articles from their in-house "Con
tributing Writers". The rest of us are supposed to volunteer a la Oshkosh?
Tom Kuffel
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| From: | "pipercolt" <bob.pipercolt(at)yahoo.com> |
Hi Folks
I am putting a Rotax 582 on my Kolb Mk 111 and I would like some input from folks
on this forum who have flown with this combination. I am new to the Light Sport
world.
Thanks
Bob
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| From: | "pipercolt" <bob.pipercolt(at)yahoo.com> |
Hi Again
I forgot to ask what prop you folks would recommend for the 582 on the Mk 111
Thanks
Bob
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| From: | Dennis Rowe <rowedenny(at)windstream.net> |
If you have a type C or E gearbox, I would recommend the taper tip Warp Drive three
blade. 68 to 72 inch dia, 3.47 to 1 ratio.
Dennis "Skid" Rowe
Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA
On Jun 6, 2013, at 6:42 PM, "pipercolt" wrote:
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> I forgot to ask what prop you folks would recommend for the 582 on the Mk 111
> Thanks
> Bob
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| From: | "pipercolt" <bob.pipercolt(at)yahoo.com> |
Hi Skid
I have the "B" gearbox.
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| From: | Dennis Rowe <rowedenny(at)windstream.net> |
Maybe go two blade than.
Dennis "Skid" Rowe
Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA
On Jun 6, 2013, at 9:38 PM, "pipercolt" wrote:
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| Subject: | Re: Prop suggestion |
| From: | Ellery Batchelder Jr <elleryweld(at)aol.com> |
I would recomend anything but a warp that caused me to terminate my flight
and airplane in the woods
Ellery Batchelder Jr.
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From: bob.pipercolt(at)yahoo.com
Sent: Thu, Jun 6, 2013 2:36 pm
Subject: Kolb-List: Prop suggestion
Hi Folks
I am putting a Rotax 582 on my Kolb Mk 111 and I would like some input from
folks on this forum who have flown with this combination. I am new to the L
ight
Sport world.
Thanks
Bob
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| Subject: | Re: Sprot aviation mag..... |
| From: | "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
Gary,
When I was writing articles for EAA's Sport Pilot magazine, now defunct, Mary Jones
was in charge of reviewing article ideas and editing. I was paid for every
article that was published, not a lot but enough to feel appreciated. She is
no longer in charge of that and when Sport Pilot magazine bit the dust I lost
interest.
I am still a member of EAA but may let it lapse this year. Never been to Oshkosh;
one reason is I'm not fond of huge crowds.... and I don't need any steak knives
:-).
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Don't worry about old age... it doesn't last very long.
- Anonymous
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| Subject: | Re: Prop suggestion |
| From: | "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
Using a 2 blade 68" Ivo. Very satisfied. OTOH, if you plan to have foreign objects
passing through the prop arc from time to time, then you might prefer a Warp.
--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Hebrews 11:1
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| From: | "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Know your Kolb |
am ready to push that stick forward >>
I was waiting in a clubhouse in for a flight one day and listening to a
group of old guys talking flying.
One guy was discussing a flight which he had with another pilot whom they
all knew.
He said " I was sitting behind the pilot talking to somebody when we came
over the hedge with the stall alarm going.. I leaned over the pilots
shoulder and pushed the stick forward.
He was mad as hell. There was a pause and then the storyteller added "He
sure as hell was a sloppy pilot"
Guess you had to be there.
Pat
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| From: | GARY JINDRA <gajindra(at)sbcglobal.net> |
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| Subject: | Re: Prop suggestion |
| From: | Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com> |
I've flown a Mk IIIX with a 582 and 2.62 gears and a Mk IIIC with a 582 and
4.00 gears. Ran the same 3 blade Warp drive on both, just had to change the
pitch a bit. The real difference is in the size of rudder trim tab and the
amount of deflection. With the 4.00 gears the trim tab is 6 inches long and
the deflection is about 5 degrees. Takes a little left leg on take off and
a little right leg in cruise. With the 2.62 gears the trim tab is 18 inches
long and deflected about 35 degrees. Still takes a fair amount of left leg
on take off but it cruises straight. Incidentally, this is pretty much the
factory recommended trim tab.
The factory recommended prop is a 66 inch. That way you can get the thrust
line as low as possible and still get adequate clearance between the prop
tips and the boom.
One other incidental, with the 4.00 gears my neighbors tell me they cannot
hear the plane on downwind. With the 2.62 gears they could hear me even
though I was out of sight.
Wheel land it regardless of gear box ratio.
Rick Girard
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 5:36 PM, pipercolt wrote:
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> Hi Folks
> I am putting a Rotax 582 on my Kolb Mk 111 and I would like some input
> from folks on this forum who have flown with this combination. I am new to
> the Light Sport world.
> Thanks
> Bob
>
>
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--
Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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| From: | "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart(at)onlyinternet.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Know your Kolb |
>
>Subject: Wing Loading
>
>
............ But you also need training to understand that wind gusts,
crosswinds, and turbulence that other popular production singles can handle
are beyond the limits of an airplane with a very lightly loaded wing.
>
Dennis,
This is true of the original FireFly with the 15 inch chord ailerons. It
was a bear to try to fly in the middle of the day. I changed to nine inch
chord ailerons and modified the push rod Tee bar hole spacing. This greatly
reduced control stick roll pressure and made the FireFly a joy to fly. It was
very easy to fly in the middle of the day. One must accept that the first
and last 1,000 feet agl are going to be rough.
I have flown sailplanes/gliders with wing loading less than the FireFly. A
sailplane on the tow or looking for thermals can be quite smooth and at
other times so rough as to be frightening. The thing one learns is to keep
your seat belt and shoulder straps tight so that you do not move relative to
the plane and to keep flying the plane.
The difference between a sailplane, which has a wing loading less than a
FireFly, is the empty weight. The sailplane is much heavier. As result,
the low mass FireFly is will react much quicker to atmospheric disturbances
than the sailplane. In both cases it is not the plane that is limited, but
it is the skill of the pilot.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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| Subject: | Re: Know your Kolb |
| From: | "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com> |
Jack,
Thanks, that's some good input about the Firefly. I've used this highly modified
yet light weight child's car with it's built in side support to solve the slip
sliding around in rough air turbulence.
Nothing fancy but works well !
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Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents
the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
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| Subject: | Flight to fish Camp- Video |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
-- http://vimeo.com/67999676
Here is a video of a flight down in the Owyhee River Canyon to a spot that
I like to call Fish Camp. It is pretty remote and is only accessed by air,
or a two track road that comes in from Vale Oregon. About the only time
that anyone other than me goes there is around the forth of July. Even so I
was a bit surprised to find someone camping there.
My reason for going was to check the amount of landing area that one could
use there. We are having our "Fly-in" the last weekend of June and some of
the people coming are unfortunately unable to own a Kolb, and therefore
have these Spam Cans that require a lot more runway to safely land and take
off. I think that most will be able to handle it, will just have to wait
and see.
Today was just perfect for a flight with little wind. It is due to climb to
95 degrees a bit later, so I took off quite early, naturally right into the
sun.
Larry
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| Subject: | Fwd: Flight to fish Camp- Video |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
I forgot to mention that the password is- owyheeflyer
Larry
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From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 2:06 PM
Subject: Flight to fish Camp- Video
To:
-- http://vimeo.com/67999676
Here is a video of a flight down in the Owyhee River Canyon to a spot that
I like to call Fish Camp. It is pretty remote and is only accessed by air,
or a two track road that comes in from Vale Oregon. About the only time
that anyone other than me goes there is around the forth of July. Even so I
was a bit surprised to find someone camping there.
My reason for going was to check the amount of landing area that one could
use there. We are having our "Fly-in" the last weekend of June and some of
the people coming are unfortunately unable to own a Kolb, and therefore
have these Spam Cans that require a lot more runway to safely land and take
off. I think that most will be able to handle it, will just have to wait
and see.
Today was just perfect for a flight with little wind. It is due to climb to
95 degrees a bit later, so I took off quite early, naturally right into the
sun.
Larry
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| Subject: | Quad trail out of the Owyhee |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
https://vimeo.com/68005862
Password owyheeflyer
The climb out of the canyon.
Larry
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| From: | "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Fwd: Flight to fish Camp- Video |
Larry,
have just had the password rejected 3 times. Not the first time this has
happened.
Sometimes it works but often does not.
Is any purpose served by having to access through a password or is that
a requirement of the system. It is a damn nuisance.
Pat
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| From: | <aoldman(at)xtra.co.nz> |
| Subject: | Re: Fwd: Flight to fish Camp- Video |
All I have to say is , nuisance or not. The video's are well worth the
effort . Thanks Larry you do a very good job of showing us a part of the
world we would otherwise not get to see . What may seem like a
relatively short flight must have been a challenging trip on horse back
last century . I trust the fishing gods treat you well for the effort
you put in. We do not get cat fish in fresh water in our part of the
world .
Regards
Tony
Downunder
MK111c
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| Subject: | Re: Fwd: Flight to fish Camp- Video |
| From: | "George Alexander" <gtalexander(at)att.net> |
pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com wrote:
> Larry,
> have just had the password rejected 3 times. Not the first time this has happened.
> Sometimes it works but often does not.
>
Not sure what Pat's difficulty might be, but have never had a problem getting in.
(Except maybe when I typed the PW incorrectly.)
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FS II R503 N709FS
http://www.oh2fly.net
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| From: | Bob Green <bgreen(at)bimi.org> |
| Subject: | RE: Kolb-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 06/09/13 |
Larry, thanks for the video. I enjoyed it greatly. Pretty desolate country.
Do you us e a GPS or are you just really familiar with the area? Thanks again
for making the video and sharing it. You do a nice job.
Bob Green
MKIIIX GPAS VW 2180 with re-drive
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| Subject: | Re: Fwd: Flight to fish Camp- Video |
| From: | kinne russ <russk50(at)gmail.com> |
Me too, George. Long as I spell it right & don't add a space it worx fine.
On Jun 10, 2013, at 7:37 AM, George Alexander wrote:
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>> Larry,
>> have just had the password rejected 3 times. Not the first time this has happened.
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in. (Except maybe when I typed the PW incorrectly.)
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> FS II R503 N709FS
> http://www.oh2fly.net
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| Subject: | Re: Fwd: Flight to fish Camp- Video |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
It is true that it is a nuisance. I started using one when I found Tachyon,
(the camera that I was using at that time) using my videos to advertise
their cameras. If they had asked, it might not have been a problem. I
suppose that most people would be happy to have a whole pile of people
seeing their videos, but I am only interested in showing them to my friends
and Kolb people. Plus I got a bit peeved with You Tube restricting my
videos because of the music. Those I deleted altogether, and no longer use
You Tube.
Try " copy and Paste " of the pass word. there are no caps. --
owyheeflyer -- Perhaps it is the translation to English that causes the
problem. :-)
Sorry
Larry
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 3:49 AM, Pat Ladd wrote:
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> Larry,
> have just had the password rejected 3 times. Not the first time this has
> happened.
> Sometimes it works but often does not.
>
> Is any purpose served by having to access through a password or is that a
> requirement of the system. It is a damn nuisance.
>
> Pat
>
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| Subject: | videos and the area I fly |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
Thanks for the comments about the video's, that is the reward that I seek.
I am not particularly interested in having a whole bunch of people seeing
them, just the ones that fly and are interested in our little planes and
the stuff that they can do. I am intensely interested in the country and
enjoy showing people the country that I have to fly in.
This area is very remote and has the least population of Oregon, and
probably a much larger area than that. As such I take all the precautions
that I can to ensure that I can get back home safely. I use a Garmin 196
for my navigation, A spot with tracking to narrow the possible search area.
I try to carry extra water, and when I fly, I dress for a hike, if it
becomes necessary, or possible. Two things here will kill you if you
survive a crash out in the Oregon outback. Sunshine and water. Too much of
one, and not enough of the other. Humidity here will get down to the teens
in the summer. Down in the Canyon where I was yesterday, there is only one
way by vehicle in there. It is almost 200 miles by vehicle from my house.
You have to drive into Idaho, North 130 miles and come back South on a two
track road. I have found some ways to get in on a Quad, but they are rough
and it is a jig saw puzzle trying to find the right sheep trail. That was
the reason for me flying up the hill side yesterday, and that was to ferret
out the turns and little roads that would take us where we wanted to go.
It is worth the effort, and the fishing is always good. It is the very
thing that I had in mind when I bought my Kolb. Dennis has it right, it is
a "Magic Carpet".
Larry
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | videos and the area I fly |
It is worth the effort, and the fishing is always good. It is the very thing
that I had in mind when I bought my Kolb. Dennis has it right, it is a
"Magic Carpet".
Larry
Kolbers:
There is something magic about the Jordan Valley where Larry lives. My
first experience with the SE Oregon high desert was when John Williamson,
Gary Haley, and I flew our Kolbs from Monument Valley, UT, to the Alvord Dry
Lake (Alvord Desert) in 2005. Larry had given us a GPS coordinates where
they would be parked with motor home, truck, Kolb, trailer, two dogs, a
Peregrine Falcon, cat and a canary. Did I leave anyone out? Yes, and
Karen.
Since that first taste of SE Oregon, I have flown and driven to the Rock
House (plus that first flight to the Alvord) 13 times. Am loading the 5th
wheel and quad at this time in anticipation of departing West in a few days
and my 14th trip to the Rock House. Going to leave the Kolb at home this
year. It is time and cost effective to do that, rather than make two trips
to the Rock House in a matter of weeks, plane and truck.
Looking forward to my visit and meeting up with my old Kolb friends the end
of June. Last year I think we had a total of 19 participants, arriving in
airplanes and vehicles. As I sit here typing we are having a white out, the
rain is coming down so hard at hauck's holler, just the opposite of what to
expect at the Rock House.
BTW, enjoyed the videos and look forward to riding the trails to the fish
camp on the Owyhee.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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| From: | "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Fwd: Flight to fish Camp- Video |
re password.
tried copy/paste Larry. Still no go.
Don't understand it as I have seen previous videos of yours.
maybe it is just me.
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Fwd: Flight to fish Camp- Video |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
I am sorry that it is not working, but apparently it is something with your
server. I don't know what to tell you. The password is of course all lower
case, no spaces, just the word owyheeflyer
Larry
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Pat Ladd wrote:
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> re password.
> tried copy/paste Larry. Still no go.
>
> Don't understand it as I have seen previous videos of yours.
> maybe it is just me.
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> Pat
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| From: | "Nick Cassara" <nickc(at)mtaonline.net> |
| Subject: | Thank you Larry, once again! |
Larry,
Thanks you once again for taking the time to share your world with us! I
cannot imagine living where you live, and not have a Kolb to see it with!
Great job, once again!
Thanks,
Nick Cassara
Palmer AK
Kolbra 607AK, hope to get it done this year..
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| From: | "tkben002" <tkben002(at)bellsouth.net> |
Figured I would share my latest video. Went flying down the river last night.
It was hot down low but it is more fun closer to the ground.
Travis Bennett
Kolb Kolbra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7izRZfj3nwg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
Figured I would share my latest video. Went flying down the river last
night. It was hot down low but it is more fun closer to the ground.
Travis Bennett
Kolb Kolbra
Travis B/Kolbers:
Particularly enjoyed the landing with shadow.
Looks like the highest terrain in your AO is the river bank or the bridge.
;-)
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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| From: | "tkben002" <tkben002(at)bellsouth.net> |
I liked the shadow landing too, that is the only reason I put it in there. Did
not realize it until I watched the video. That is the lowest I have flown down
a river since 11/2011 Nauga trip.
Unfortunately it is pretty flat down here in Louisiana.
Travis Bennett
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| From: | "tkben002" <tkben002(at)bellsouth.net> |
Yeah, well, I got lucky on that one, dont watch any of the other landings in the
other videos.....multiple touchdown points.
Travis Bennett
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| Subject: | Microburst topples Kolb Trailer - Injures my Firestar -2 |
| From: | "miyer2u" <miyer2u(at)yahoo.com> |
Kolber's
I have bad news for my FS-2. Yesterday night a microburst hit my trailer at 75
MPH and toppled the entire thing!
Salt lake city airport called me today and informed me of the incident. I went
to the airport and was shocked to see the trailer upside down and my entire right
wing is crushed. The propeller broken, the cockpit broken, landing wheel bent
and the aileron bent. The airports authority said that it cannot cover any
damages!
I have arranged for a forklift to pick the trailer up tomorrow and then assess
the damage....My beautiful bird is totally injured....I will post my incident
with pictures on the list...
Please strap your kolb trailer wherever it is so that it does cause damage to your
kolb the way it happened to mine!
Mahesh Iyer
FS-2
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Microburst topples Kolb Trailer - Injures my Firestar -2 |
I have bad news for my FS-2. Yesterday night a microburst hit my trailer at
75 MPH and toppled the entire thing!
Mahesh Iyer
FS-2
Mahesh/Kolbers:
Terrible news. I was looking forward to meeting you and your FS at the Rock
House. Was getting ready to shut down the computer to depart when I saw
your message.
Are you still planning to make the Rock House Flyin the end of this month?
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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| Subject: | Re: Microburst topples Kolb Trailer - Injures my Firestar -2 |
| From: | "miyer2u" <miyer2u(at)yahoo.com> |
Thanks John. It was unfortunate and never expected something like this to happen.
The trailer was very well supported at 6 points on the frame and on to mother
earth!
But who can stop a microburst!
I will not be coming to the flyin as there is no fun flying a Cessna there...Its
a place for kolbs!
Mahesh
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| From: | TheWanderingWench <thewanderingwench(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Microburst topples Kolb Trailer - Injures my Firestar -2 |
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city airport called me today and informed me of the incident. I went to th
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t wing is crushed. The propeller broken, the cockpit broken, landing wheel
bent and the aileron bent. The airports authority said that it cannot cover
any damages!=0A=0AI have arranged for a forklift to pick the trailer up to
morrow and then assess the damage....My beautiful bird is totally injured..
..I will post my incident with pictures on the list...=0A=0APlease strap yo
ur kolb trailer wherever it is so that it does cause damage to your kolb th
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| From: | "tkben002" <tkben002(at)bellsouth.net> |
My wife hates flying. I have taken my kids, brother and a friend in the back.
Travis Bennett
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| Subject: | Original Firestar spring flight |
| From: | "Ralph B" <rstar447(at)gmail.com> |
I flew my 26 year-old Original Firestar for the first time this spring. I forgot
how light it really was since flying the Kolbra all winter. I took a 130 mile
flight around the Minneapolis and St Paul metro during mid day thermals and
got kicked around pretty good. Had I been flying the Kolbra, it would have been
a lot more stable in that rough air!
Wing loading makes a difference ...
Ralph B
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Ralph B
Original Firestar 447
N91493 E-AB
1000+ hours
26 years flying it
Kolbra 912ULS
N20386
200 hours
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| From: | gliderx5(at)comcast.net |
| Subject: | Latex Pain Forum |
I just got word that I will be presenting a forum at Airventure on painting your
homebuilt with latex paint, Wednesday, at 11:30. I plan to camp with my Titan
Tornado in the ultralight area. If any of you are attending Airventure please
stop by the forum or the camp site and say hi. I hope to be there from Sunday
through Friday, weather permitting.
See you there
Malcolm
http://home.comcast.net/~mmorrison123/Airplanes.htm
http://home.comcast.net/~mmorrison123/Latex.htm
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| Subject: | Re: Microburst topples Kolb Trailer - Injures my Firestar -2 |
| From: | "miyer2u" <miyer2u(at)yahoo.com> |
Thanks Arty! Hope you are having a good time flying around!
Today I got my trailer up using a forklift. Since it fell on the side, the propeller
ripped into the wing and the airfilters are flat like a pancake!
Both ailerons got bent and I will replace them. One of the ribs has got squished
and because I have so many rips on the wing, I will redo the entirely. The props
took the brunt so two of them broke off. The axle of the trailer also go
bent and I will need to put a new one!
No worries, my Kolb has has given me so sweet memories that I just cant do anything
other than getting it back on its feet!
Last year I flew it all over - Monument valley. Lake Powell, Bryce canyon, Mexican
hat, Goose neck state park and many more......so the journey continues :-))........!
Mahesh
FS-2, Salt Lake City
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