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April 14, 2014 - June 29, 2014
Thanks again,
Michael
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Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 6:58 AM
| Subject: | Re: Post Your Kolb Pictures |
I met Don G at the Midwest Light Sport Expo in Mt Vernon, IL. We were
talking to the owner of another Firefly that was on display at the show.
He mentioned his modifications to the wing struts.
The Firefly I flew was right at 254 built with no brakes etc. How would
a Firefly handle at gross weight of 500 lbs? Would be easy to get to
that 500 lbs with me at 170 lbs plus 10 gallons of fuel and a Rotax 503.
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Tony Vitiello
St. Louis, MO
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| From: | "Michael Orth" <mosurf(at)xplornet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Post Your Kolb Pictures |
Tony,
OOPS!
Disregard my last.
Michael
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-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Vitiello
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 6:58 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Post Your Kolb Pictures
I met Don G at the Midwest Light Sport Expo in Mt Vernon, IL. We were
talking to the owner of another Firefly that was on display at the show.
He mentioned his modifications to the wing struts.
The Firefly I flew was right at 254 built with no brakes etc. How would
a Firefly handle at gross weight of 500 lbs? Would be easy to get to
that 500 lbs with me at 170 lbs plus 10 gallons of fuel and a Rotax 503.
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Tony Vitiello
St. Louis, MO
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=421970#421970
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| From: | Dennis Rowe <rowedenny(at)windstream.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Post Your Kolb Pictures |
Should be fine I would think. Definitely would have more than enough power.
Dennis "Skid" Rowe
Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA
> On Apr 14, 2014, at 9:58 AM, "Tony Vitiello" wrote:
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to the owner of another Firefly that was on display at the show. He mentioned
his modifications to the wing struts.
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handle at gross weight of 500 lbs? Would be easy to get to that 500 lbs
with me at 170 lbs plus 10 gallons of fuel and a Rotax 503.
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| From: | Dennis Rowe <rowedenny(at)windstream.net> |
| Subject: | Firefly vs Firestar |
My thoughts on the subject.
If I had a 503 on the shelf and was trying to decide which of these to build and
knew the Fly was going to be operated at gross weight and over powered, I would
definitely choose the Firestar. Why not have a safety cushion and the extra
lift of the 28 foot wing.
A 503 powered Firestar is a rocket and nearly as sporty as the firefly. You would
also have room for more than 10 gallons of fuel.
My 2 cents. Make cheques payable too.....
Dennis "Skid" Rowe
Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA
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| Subject: | Re: Post Your Kolb Pictures |
| From: | "Tony Vitiello" <tony(at)tgrankin.com> |
No doubt on the power. These Fireflies are little rocket ships with a Rotax 447.
No concerns about structural strength when flying at gross or somewhat over (500
lbs).
I'd like to put a 10 gallon tank in a Firefly along with a 503 (because I already
have a good 503 that is still pretty new). I weigh about 175 so I'd be close
to gross weight with 10 gallons (full fuel for a cross country).
rowedenny wrote:
> Should be fine I would think. Definitely would have more than enough power.
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> Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA
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to the owner of another Firefly that was on display at the show. He mentioned
his modifications to the wing struts.
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> > The Firefly I flew was right at 254 built with no brakes etc. How would a
Firefly handle at gross weight of 500 lbs? Would be easy to get to that 500
lbs with me at 170 lbs plus 10 gallons of fuel and a Rotax 503.
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Tony Vitiello
St. Louis, MO
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| Subject: | Re: Post Your Kolb Pictures |
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| Subject: | Re: Post Your Kolb Pictures |
| From: | "Rick Lewis" <cktman(at)wildblue.net> |
It would be nice to get lots of pictures of many kolbs planes but doesn't seem
possible with out multiple searches. really is a shame....
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Rick Lewis
(VW Watercooled Engine)
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| Subject: | Re: Post Your Kolb Pictures |
| From: | "George Alexander" <gtalexander(at)att.net> |
Rick Lewis wrote:
> It would be nice to get lots of pictures of many kolbs planes but doesn't seem
possible with out multiple searches. really is a shame....
Rick:
Go to http://images.google.com
Then in the search box put: kolb aircraft
Plently of pictures
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George Alexander
FS II R503 N709FS
http://www.oh2fly.net
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| Subject: | Re: Firefly vs Firestar |
| From: | "Tony Vitiello" <tony(at)tgrankin.com> |
Dennis,
Thanks for the input. That's pretty much what I've been thinking but I want to
fully explore the Firefly before I rule it out. I've seen quite a few Fireflies
that are built with many options and they still seem to fly good. The single
strut Flagfly is apparently around 300 lbs empty and is said to handle the
weight quite well.
I believe the dual carb 503 weighs about 12 lbs more than a 447. I could maybe
convert it to single card and save a few lbs. Also, with a 10 gallon tank you
don't have to fill it for local flying which is what I do most often.
I do like the option of the second seat (although very tight). I have 2 boys and
it would be nice to take them up. Plus that second seat area is great for
bringing extra gear along.
It is a tough choice between these 2 planes. I appreciate everyone's input.
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Tony Vitiello
St. Louis, MO
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| From: | "prhoads61(at)frontiernet.net" <prhoads61(at)frontiernet.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Firefly vs Firestar |
Tony,=0A-=0AI've got a 503 Firestar close to you at Litchfield,IL. (3LF).
You're welcome to check it out.=0APerry Rhoads=0AOn Monday, April 14, 2014
10:24 PM, Tony Vitiello wrote:=0A =0A--> Kolb-List me
ssage posted by: "Tony Vitiello" =0A=0ADennis,=0A=0AThan
ks for the input.- That's pretty much what I've been thinking but I want
to fully explore the Firefly before I rule it out.- I've seen quite a few
Fireflies that are built with many options and they still seem to fly good
.- The single strut Flagfly is apparently around 300 lbs empty and is sai
d to handle the weight quite well.=0A=0AI believe the dual carb 503 weighs
about 12 lbs more than a 447.- I could maybe convert it to single card an
d save a few lbs.- Also, with a 10 gallon tank you don't have to fill it
for local flying which is what I do most often.- =0A=0AI do like the opti
on of the second seat (although very tight).- I have 2 boys and it would
be nice to take them up.- Plus that second seat area is great for bringin
g extra gear along.- =0A=0AIt is a tough choice between these 2 planes.
- I appreciate everyone's input.=0A=0A--------=0ATony Vitiello=0ASt. Loui
s, MO=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matroni
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| Subject: | Re: Big Tires on Firefly |
| From: | "0048ff" <tfoster(at)priorart.com> |
Back on Sep 12, 2012 John Hauck said:
I tried 800X6 tires on my original Firestar. Quickly
discovered the 15X6X6 lawn mower tires were all I needed to
do my kind of flying off field.
My main concern is to have enough floatation not to nose
over in soft sand and ground. end John Hauck
Today I saw some 13x5x6 tires on a lawn tractor and I see Nylon Rims and such tire/tube
combos on Aircraft Spruce.
Seems like to me this could work on my Firefly: 15X6X6 2 ply with tube having width
5.9 in and height 14.8 in.
My reading seems to conclude that these fit on Azusa 6 in Nylon rims. Anyone tried
something like this?
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| Subject: | Matronics Web Server Down for Repair (PLEASE READ)... |
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| From: | kinne russ <russk50(at)gmail.com> |
List
Need some advice on VG's. I need about 60 to put on one wing of an Xtra.
Is one brand much better than another? Anyone have specially good or bad experience
with the various suppliers?
Thanx, Russ K
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| From: | chris davis <capedavis(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Post Your Kolb Pictures |
Tony- I was considering a 503 on my Firefly and was discouraged by Kolb a
s it would take considerable frame stengthing to make the Firefly able to s
tand the extra power and vibration from the 503 . just an aside to consider
. Chris=0A=0A=0A-=0AChris Davis=0AKXP 503 492 hrs=0AGlider Pilot=0ADisabl
ed from crash building Firefly=0AOn Monday, April 14, 2014 10:41 PM, George
Alexander wrote:=0A =0A--> Kolb-List message posted
by: "George Alexander" =0A>=0A>=0A>Rick Lewis wrote:
=0A>> It would be nice to get lots of pictures of many kolbs planes but doe
sn't seem possible with out multiple searches.- really- is a shame....
=0A>=0A>=0A>Rick:=0A>Go to- http://images.google.com =0A>Then in the sea
rch box put:- kolb aircraft=0A>=0A>Plently of pictures=0A>=0A>--------
=0A>George Alexander=0A>FS II R503- N709FS=0A>http://www.oh2fly.net=0A>
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| From: | Dennis Rowe <rowedenny(at)windstream.net> |
John Gilpin a fellow Kolb lister sells VGs, I've heard good things about his.
Otherwise I have no experience with them.
Dennis "Skid" Rowe
Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA
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> Is one brand much better than another? Anyone have specially good or bad experience
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| From: | "Arizona Flyer" <heracesthesun(at)yahoo.com> |
If I ever take the time to install VG's I like the Stolspeed ones. Adhesive backing, no drilling, cleaner nicer look and easier to wash/wax the wings without them catching your brush or towel to much. Here is an article about VG's you might enjoy... http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/FSII%20Vortex%20Generators.html
Stolspeed... http://www.stolspeed.com/
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"Life should be lived as a bold adventure, I refuse to tiptoe through life
just to arrive safely at death"
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| From: | Dennis Rowe <rowedenny(at)windstream.net> |
Stolspeed is John Gilpin's company. He's a stand up guy!
Dennis "Skid" Rowe
Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA
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| From: | "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
Hi all,
Because of the withdrawal of support by Microsoft of XP I have installed
Windows 7. This has brought with it a change of e-mail format to Live
Mail which ,of course, is different to the old system. Not better. Just
different.
Can someone tell me please how to wipe out all the previous messages in
a series and just pick out a sentence to give a clue what the subject is
in the message to which a reply is being sent.
Previously I just blocked a sentence and copied and pasted it to my
reply. That doesn`t seem to work any more. the damn thing will insist of
reprinting all the previous messages.
Pat
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| From: | "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
Only ONEwing Russ. What are you up to?.
I have heard from a guy who bought my Xtra from the guy to whom I sold it.
You remember that he took the 4 stroke off and replaced it with a 2 stroke.
The present owner has replaced the 4 stroke and the plane has now been
issued with a Certificate of Airworthiness. He is promising to fly down from
his home field to our local fly in later in the year. That will give me a
chance to see the old girl again.
Wx has been super for the last week or so. Chilly wind but blue skies and
good viz. We have the Popham Air Fair the weekend after next and that is
usually reckoned to be the beginning of the season.
We are in the throes of moving house as we have built a bungalow about 100
yards from our present house. Moving in a couple of weeks. This was all
brought on by my cancer and back problems. When we bought the plot nearly 2
years ago I was on 2 sticks and was forced to sell the Xtra because I
couldn`t hack the pulley hauley, carrying fuel etc.
thank goodness I am a lot better but at 85 I shall be glad not to have
staires to contend with.
During the clear out before moving I have found a painting which I had done
many ,many years ago of the syndicate Olympia 2.
Most of the guys flying now don`t know any Oly from a Grunau so I have
offered it to my old Gliding Club to use either as just a pic. on the wall
or as a prize for the Club Ladder Comp or best new pilot or something. They
have asked me to present it at the AGM in a couple of weeks time. That will
be nice. There are one or two members whom I remember from the old days.
Should be fun.
Fair winds
Pat
-----Original Message-----
From: kinne russ
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 3:22 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: q
List
Need some advice on VG's. I need about 60 to put on one wing of an Xtra.
Is one brand much better than another? Anyone have specially good or bad
experience with the various suppliers?
Thanx, Russ K
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| From: | "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
Hi all,
Because of the withdrawal of support by Microsoft of XP I have installed
Windows 7. This has brought with it a change of e-mail format to Live
Mail which ,of course, is different to the old system. Not better. Just
different.
Can someone tell me please how to wipe out all the previous messages in
a series and just pick out a sentence to give a clue what the subject is
in the message to which a reply is being sent.
Previously I just blocked a sentence and copied and pasted it to my
reply. That doesn`t seem to work any more. the damn thing will insist of
reprinting all the previous messages.
Pat
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| From: | "b young" <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com> |
Can someone tell me please how to wipe out all the previous messages in a s
eries and just pick out a sentence to give a clue what the subject is in th
e message to which a reply is being sent.
Pat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
pat...
after hitting the reply button.... do a click and drag to highlight the t
ext you want to copy to the new message,,,,,, then hit =9Cctrl c
=9C that will copy the selected text,,, then hit =9Cctrl a
=9D ( select all) that will highlight all of the text in the origin
al message. then hit =9Cctrl v=9D that will paste the text
you want to copy to the new message and eliminate all else that was highlig
hted in the =9Cctrl a =9C step....
it works for me,,, but your side of the pond may have different rules...
boyd young
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| From: | "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
Any chance you could take a pic of your painting and email it to us
Kolbers on the list?
Well.... I certainly couldn`t. I will have a word with `she who must be
obeyed`. Wendy is a bit more computer savvy than I am. (its an age
thing)
Pat
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| From: | "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
From: wendy ladd
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 4:56 PM
Subject: Picture
Hi David
You asked for the picture of the Oly 2.
I said Wendy would know how to do it! So here it is..............
Pat
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| From: | Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com> |
Patt, I trimmed out the matting to make it a better desktop picture.
Rick Girard
On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Pat Ladd wrote:
>
>
> *From:* wendy ladd
> *Sent:* Saturday, April 19, 2014 4:56 PM
> *To:* kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> *Subject:* Picture
>
> Hi David
> You asked for the picture of the Oly 2.
>
> I said Wendy would know how to do it! So here it is..............
>
> Pat
>
--
Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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| From: | undoctor <undoctor(at)ptd.net> |
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| From: | "Stuart Harner" <stuart(at)harnerfarm.net> |
| Subject: | test: Now Poly-Brush |
Well now this is just getting more and more strange.
After seeing this one go through and getting your reply, I posted a new
clean message, and it never showed up. So now, I am going to modify the
reply from this one to see if my message will go through.
Guys,
Both Firefly wings are done up through the first brushed on coat of Poly
Brush. I have gone through nearly a gallon of Poly Brush getting to this
point. I bought the recommended two gallons, but am worried that there
won't be enough to finish the plane.
Logic says that I would use more as the first coat does most of the sealing
and it is used to put the tapes on. However, even using an HVLP sprayer, I
am bound to lose some to overspray.
I am trying to figure out if I need to buy more, and if so, how much? I
don't want to run out and have to wait for order to arrive when it gets warm
enough to start spraying.
What kinds of coverage did you get out of Poly Brush on your projects?
Thanks,
Stuart
(The more I get done, the more I realize there is to do!)
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Beauford
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 7:09 PM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: test
Apparently, yer problems are over, Brother Harner.
Beauford
FF-076
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| From: | Herb <herbgh(at)nctc.com> |
All
I need a good muffler to fit a Kolb Firefly with a 447... Stuart is
buying my 13 hour 447 but since it came off of a trike, it has the L
shaped muffler...happy to trade this one . Nearly new......Herb
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| From: | kinne russ <russk50(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: test: Now Poly-Brush |
Stuart
I poly-brushed one Xtra wing, two coats, and had quite a bit left over,
out of one gallon. I have another gallon, unopened; where are you
located?
Russ K
On Apr 20, 2014, at 6:57 AM, Stuart Harner wrote:
> Well now this is just getting more and more strange.
>
> After seeing this one go through and getting your reply, I posted a
new clean message, and it never showed up. So now, I am going to modify
the reply from this one to see if my message will go through.
>
>
>
> Guys,
>
> Both Firefly wings are done up through the first brushed on coat of
Poly Brush. I have gone through nearly a gallon of Poly Brush getting
to this point. I bought the recommended two gallons, but am worried
that there won=92t be enough to finish the plane.
>
> Logic says that I would use more as the first coat does most of the
sealing and it is used to put the tapes on. However, even using an HVLP
sprayer, I am bound to lose some to overspray.
>
> I am trying to figure out if I need to buy more, and if so, how much?
I don=92t want to run out and have to wait for order to arrive when it
gets warm enough to start spraying.
>
> What kinds of coverage did you get out of Poly Brush on your projects?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Stuart
> (The more I get done, the more I realize there is to do!)
>
>
>
>
> From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Beauford
> Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 7:09 PM
> To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Kolb-List: test
>
> Apparently, yer problems are over, Brother Harner=85
>
> Beauford
> FF-076
>
>
>
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| From: | "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
I fought with Live Mail for a couple months, the final straw came as I was using
it for our aircraft club email newsletters and it became selective about how
many of the Bcc addresses it would send, randomly leaving out 2/3's of the list.
Now I use Live Mail only for my incoming unimportant mail accounts, and Thunderbird
for the important stuff.
--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
My soul shall be joyful in the LORD; It shall rejoice in His salvation. Psalm 35:9
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422149#422149
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| From: | "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
Good idea. Glad that the pic was good enough. If you pan in close enough
you can recognise me from the look of sheer terror on my face.
Pat
From: Richard Girard
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 11:27 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fw: Picture
Patt, I trimmed out the matting to make it a better desktop picture.
Rick Girard
On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Pat Ladd
wrote:
From: wendy ladd
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 4:56 PM
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Picture
Hi David
You asked for the picture of the Oly 2.
I said Wendy would know how to do it! So here it is..............
Pat
--
Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be
unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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| Subject: | Rock House fly-in |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
We are holding our Rock House fly-in, May 31- June 1, 2014. 42 40.419 N
117 51.198 W . The physical address is 5070 Hwy 95 S, Jordan Valley
Oregon. Jordan Valley is the nearest town, but 52 miles away, so if you are
planning to come, stock up before you leave what is commonly known as
"civilization". There is plenty of room to camp. Bring sunscreen, shade is
rare. The area is high Desert, with spectacular, but scattered scenery.
Runway elevation is 4000 feet. Runway length is 2800 feet of dirt. There is
also a 700 foot cross wind runway. If you are forced by wind to use it, 700
feet is quite long enough. Radio traffic use 123.450. Phone number- 541 586
5030 - call if you plan to attend.
Larry Cottrell
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address before sending.*
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| Subject: | Rock House fly-in |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Rock House fly-in
****************************************
We are holding our Rock House fly-in, May 31- June 1, 2014. 42 40.419 N
117 51.198 W . The physical address is 5070 Hwy 95 S, Jordan Valley
Oregon. Jordan Valley is the nearest town, but 52 miles away, so if you are
planning to come, stock up before you leave what is commonly known as
"civilization". There is plenty of room to camp. Bring sunscreen, shade is
rare. The area is high Desert, with spectacular, but scattered scenery.
Runway elevation is 4000 feet. Runway length is 2800 feet of dirt. There is
also a 700 foot cross wind runway. If you are forced by wind to use it, 700
feet is quite long enough. Radio traffic use- 123.450. Phone number- 541 586
5030 - call if you plan to attend.
Larry Cottrell
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address before sending.*
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| Subject: | Re: Rock House fly-in |
| From: | "woody" <n3022.176(at)gmail.com> |
You don't get much company out there do you?
I live in deep south Alabama & haven't seen that much open space in years...
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422176#422176
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| Subject: | Re: Rock House fly-in |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
The current thought is that it only takes three days for garbage or company
to stink. Its a bit longer here. :-)
Larry
On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 8:34 PM, woody wrote:
>
> You don't get much company out there do you?
> I live in deep south Alabama & haven't seen that much open space in
> years...
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422176#422176
>
>
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address before sending.*
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| Subject: | reserve fuel tank test |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
My fuel system consists of two five gallon stock tanks from Kolb. I run
both tanks to a selector valve on a small panel located just in front of
the throttle. The pickups in each tank are on a piece of fuel line that
comes in from the top of each tank, and goes to an in tank fuel filter. It
is one that I purchased from Aircraft Spruce and is of the type commonly
used in model airplanes. Basically it keeps the lumps out, and also serves
the purpose of being able to follow the fuel. ( if you are in a downward
angle the filter should run to the front of the tank, or vice versa) From
the selector valve the outgoing line goes to a home made gascolator, then
to a facet fuel pump and on to the stock diaphragm fuel pump that came with
the engine.
My EIS is set to trigger the alarm with one gallon of fuel left in the
tank. I am running an HKS 700 E on my Firestar II, that gets around 3 gph.
at 5200 rpm's. I have about 200 hours on it, and I am pleased with it. I
however have never tried an in air restart, nor checked to see just how
long or far the plane will fly when the red light begins to blink. This
evening was the day to find out.
I climbed up to 1500 feet agl and switched to my front tank that had 1.8
showing in the front tank. I took the wife's kitchen timer up with me, and
got my Garmin ready to reset the miles when I punched the button. When the
alarm went on, I turned the timer on. I was flying at 5600 RPM. Maximum
cruise is 5800 rpm's. I wanted the test to be on the conservative side.
When the engine quit, I had been flying 16 minutes and had covered 17
miles.
Engine restart was a non event. I switched tanks,pulled the throttle all
the way back, and the engine fired on the first revolution. No choke
necessary.
I do not intend to fly on my reserve on purpose, but I did want to know how
far I could go if It became necessary.
Larry
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Rock House fly-in |
I plan to be there. However, I won't be flying, again this year.
Looking forward to visiting my favorite people and one of my favorite
places in CONUS.
Here is another photo of the Rock House taken from MKIII, N101AB, in
2011. This is a Kolb friendly airfield for sure.
First flew to this part of the world in 2005. Every year thereafter
until 2012, except for 2010.
We met and made a lot of new friends, rediscovered old friends, since
the first Monument Valley Flyin in 2003. Basically, that is what the
Rock House Flyin is all about. Friends that were made because of our
Kolb aircraft. It has been an amazing journey.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
We are holding our Rock House fly-in, May 31- June 1, 2014. 42 40.419
N 117 51.198 W . The physical address is 5070 Hwy 95 S, Jordan Valley
Oregon. Jordan Valley is the nearest town, but 52 miles away, so if you
are planning to come, stock up before you leave what is commonly known
as "civilization". There is plenty of room to camp. Bring sunscreen,
shade is rare. The area is high Desert, with spectacular, but scattered
scenery. Runway elevation is 4000 feet. Runway length is 2800 feet of
dirt. There is also a 700 foot cross wind runway. If you are forced by
wind to use it, 700 feet is quite long enough. Radio traffic use
123.450. Phone number- 541 586 5030 - call if you plan to attend.
Larry Cottrell
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | reserve fuel tank test |
Good exercise.
Don't forget to practice your "actual" dead stick landings.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry
Cottrell
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 10:11 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: reserve fuel tank test
My fuel system consists of two five gallon stock tanks from Kolb. I run
both tanks to a selector valve on a small panel located just in front of
the throttle. The pickups in each tank are on a piece of fuel line that
comes in from the top of each tank, and goes to an in tank fuel filter.
It is one that I purchased from Aircraft Spruce and is of the type
commonly used in model airplanes. Basically it keeps the lumps out, and
also serves the purpose of being able to follow the fuel. ( if you are
in a downward angle the filter should run to the front of the tank, or
vice versa) From the selector valve the outgoing line goes to a home
made gascolator, then to a facet fuel pump and on to the stock diaphragm
fuel pump that came with the engine.
My EIS is set to trigger the alarm with one gallon of fuel left in the
tank. I am running an HKS 700 E on my Firestar II, that gets around 3
gph. at 5200 rpm's. I have about 200 hours on it, and I am pleased with
it. I however have never tried an in air restart, nor checked to see
just how long or far the plane will fly when the red light begins to
blink. This evening was the day to find out.
I climbed up to 1500 feet agl and switched to my front tank that had 1.8
showing in the front tank. I took the wife's kitchen timer up with me,
and got my Garmin ready to reset the miles when I punched the button.
When the alarm went on, I turned the timer on. I was flying at 5600
RPM. Maximum cruise is 5800 rpm's. I wanted the test to be on the
conservative side. When the engine quit, I had been flying 16 minutes
and had covered 17 miles.
Engine restart was a non event. I switched tanks,pulled the throttle all
the way back, and the engine fired on the first revolution. No choke
necessary.
I do not intend to fly on my reserve on purpose, but I did want to know
how far I could go if It became necessary.
Larry
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| From: | "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: reserve fuel tank test |
Hi,
why do you make things so complicated? I ran my Xtra with 2 tanks. They
both fed equally at the same time. I never had an extra pump, a
selector, gascolator etc. I could see how much fuel there was in the
tanks by turning my head. When my neck got stiff I used a little mirror.
All these extras add weight and add to the list of things which can go
wrong.
First rule of building airplanes. SIMPLIFY AND ADD LIGHTNESS.
Pat
From: Larry Cottrell
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 4:10 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: reserve fuel tank test
My fuel system consists of two five gallon stock tanks from Kolb
.
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| From: | "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Rock House fly-in |
Have fun fellas. I shall not forget the one and only time I made it. We
were on holiday and we drove to the Fly in from San Diego mainly using
the backroads
Afterward we drove down to Santa Fe and met some friends from the East
Coast. We also fell in with Big Lar who took us out around the mountains
to see all sorts of interesting places.
Pat
From: Larry Cottrell
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 11:18 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Rock House fly-in
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Rock House fly-in
****************************************
We are holding our Rock House fly-in, May 31- June 1, 2014. 42 40.419
N
117 51.198 W . The physical address is 5070 Hwy 95 S, Jordan Valley
Oregon. Jordan Valley is the nearest town, but 52 miles away, so if you
are
planning to come, stock up before you leave what is commonly known as
"civilization". There is plenty of room to camp. Bring sunscreen, shade
is
rare. The area is high Desert, with spectacular, but scattered scenery.
Runway elevation is 4000 feet. Runway length is 2800 feet of dirt. There
is
also a 700 foot cross wind runway. If you are forced by wind to use it,
700
feet is quite long enough. Radio traffic use- 123.450. Phone number- 541
586
5030 - call if you plan to attend.
Larry Cottrell
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| From: | "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
Don`t know Thunderbird. G mail has been suggested. Pat
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Pike
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 1:21 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: help
I fought with Live Mail for a couple months, the final straw came as I was
using it for our aircraft club email newsletters and it became selective
about how many of the Bcc addresses it would send, randomly leaving out
2/3's of the list.
Now I use Live Mail only for my incoming unimportant mail accounts, and
Thunderbird for the important stuff.
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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
My soul shall be joyful in the LORD; It shall rejoice in His salvation.
Psalm 35:9
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| Subject: | Re: reserve fuel tank test |
| From: | "racerjerry" <gki(at)suffolk.lib.ny.us> |
Be careful with tiny in-tank filters; their capacity is so small that they can
plug solid and cause fuel starvation. Whenever I need real power, I am generally
in a nose-high attitude and consequently locate fuel pickups to the rear.
Also, with fuel lines taken from the top of the tanks, if both tanks are connected
together with a T fitting; when one tank sucks air you will get no fuel from
the second tank just more air. In my Kolb, with tandem tanks, apparently
venting pressures were not identical causing fuel levels not to equalize which
resulted in QUIET FLIGHT if fuel level in one tank was allowed to run too low.
Also, that is darned good advice: Don't forget to practice your "actual" dead stick
landings. Practice when the pressure is OFF and you are over friendly territory
/ nice long runway.
--------
Jerry King
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| Subject: | Re: reserve fuel tank test |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
"why do you make things so complicated?"
Nothing much complicated about it. I choose which tank I want to run on, I
can monitor the levels in them. If I should have junk or water in the fuel,
it is kept from the engine. As for weight- I think I can tolerate the
extra weight that an extra 6 feet of fuel line adds. Of course I forgot the
selector switch- that should be almost an ounce there. The PVC that makes
up my gascolator might add 4 or 5 ounces. As for compensating for the facet
fuel pump, I handle that by taking a bathroom break before flying.
With my current setup, if necessary I can pull almost all the gas in the
tanks completely, if that should become necessary. I tried the tanks tied
together for a while, and found that I didn't like it. The biggest reason
was that due to the attitude that a Kolb flies in, one tank is almost a
gallon lower that the other. That means that an extra gallon of gas will be
left in the tanks when it starts sucking air. They never drew the same. I
don't always completely fill my tanks when I fly. Not much reason to carry
around an extra 30 pounds of fuel when I only plan to fly a short distance,
such as across England. :-)
Larry
On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 8:36 AM, Pat Ladd wrote:
> Hi,
>
> why do you make things so complicated? I ran my Xtra with 2 tanks. They
> both fed equally at the same time. I never had an extra pump, a selector,
> gascolator etc. I could see how much fuel there was in the tanks by turning
> my head. When my neck got stiff I used a little mirror. All these extras
> add weight and add to the list of things which can go wrong.
>
> First rule of building airplanes. SIMPLIFY AND ADD LIGHTNESS.
>
> Pat
>
> *From:* Larry Cottrell
> *Sent:* Monday, April 21, 2014 4:10 AM
> *To:* kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> *Subject:* Kolb-List: reserve fuel tank test
> My fuel system consists of two five gallon stock tanks from Kolb
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| Subject: | Re: reserve fuel tank test |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
" In my Kolb, with tandem tanks, apparently venting pressures were not
identical causing fuel levels not to equalize which resulted in QUIET
FLIGHT if fuel level in one tank was allowed to run too low."
I don't think that is due to air pressure, but due to the tail high
attitude that our Kolbs fly.
Larry
On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 9:06 AM, racerjerry wrote:
>
> Be careful with tiny in-tank filters; their capacity is so small that the
y
> can plug solid and cause fuel starvation. Whenever I need real power, I
am
> generally in a nose-high attitude and consequently locate fuel pickups to
> the rear.
>
> Also, with fuel lines taken from the top of the tanks, if both tanks are
> connected together with a T fitting; when one tank sucks air you will get
> no fuel from the second tank =93 just more air. In my Kolb, with t
andem
> tanks, apparently venting pressures were not identical causing fuel level
s
> not to equalize which resulted in QUIET FLIGHT if fuel level in one tank
> was allowed to run too low.
>
> Also, that is darned good advice: =9CDon't forget to practice your
"actual"
> dead stick landings.=9D Practice when the pressure is OFF and you
are over
> friendly territory / nice long runway.
>
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> Jerry King
>
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | reserve fuel tank test |
Patrick L/Kolbers:
Adding lightness must be a British thing. Is that the opposite of
adding heaviness?
Scratching my head at hauck's holler, Alabama.
Yes, I remember the year Patrick and Windy Ladd (sp) visited us at the
Unplanned, Unorganized Kolb Flyin, Monument Valley, Utah. Think that
was probably 2006/7??? We haven't had one there since 2010, the one I
missed. Now we gather/roost at the Rock House near Burns Junction, OR.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
First rule of building airplanes. SIMPLIFY AND ADD LIGHTNESS.
Pat
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| From: | Charlie England <ceengland7(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: reserve fuel tank test |
It's American, but attributed to various people. I've often heard it
attributed to Kelly Johnson (Blackbird, etc), but..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Bushnell_Stout
The actual quote is 'simplicate and add lightness.' Eliminate anything
that isn't absolutely needed; keep what's left as light as possible.
Charlie
On 4/21/2014 11:44 AM, John Hauck wrote:
>
> Patrick L/Kolbers:
>
> Adding lightness must be a British thing.Is that the opposite of
> adding heaviness?
>
> Scratching my head at hauck's holler, Alabama.
>
> Yes, I remember the year Patrick and Windy Ladd (sp) visited us at the
> Unplanned, Unorganized Kolb Flyin, Monument Valley, Utah.Think that
> was probably 2006/7???We haven't had one there since 2010, the one I
> missed.Now we gather/roost at the Rock House near Burns Junction, OR.
>
> john h
>
> mkIII
>
> Titus, Alabama
>
> First rule of building airplanes. SIMPLIFY AND ADD LIGHTNESS.
>
> Pat
>
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| Subject: | Re: reserve fuel tank test |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
Patrick L/Kolbers:
Adding lightness must be a British thing. Is that the opposite of adding
heaviness?
I only described my system so that a reader could understand what I was
trying to discover. I assure you that it was not intended to advocate what
I use.
I have flown my Firestar for 17 years and 642 hours. I have tried every
variation of fuel setups that has been used by any and all. I discarded the
"tied or connected tanks" early because with tandem tanks the rear tank
being higher fed more of the fuel to the engine than the front one. Thus
leaving about a gallon or 6 pounds of fuel in the front tank when the back
one started sucking air. This system would effectively only have 7 gallons
of useful fuel before you reached your reserve. That would leave 3 gallons
as a reserve. One in the rear tank, and two in the front. Total of 18 lbs
of fuel. That covers a lot of fuel line. If you were to draw all of the
fuel out of the system while flying, you would only have 9 gallons ??? to
use.
My system is duplicated, (that's a good thing I hear, almost as good as
lightness) If one tank fails, I have another. My fuel is filtered twice
before it goes into the plane. Once at the station, and once out of my fuel
tank that I pump from. Once it gets into the planes tank it is filtered
there, then again before it gets to the carbs.
My test yesterday shows that I can burn almost all of the fuel in both
tanks. That extra gallon will give me about 20 miles less distance to walk.
Might not mean much to you, but it gets to be a struggle out here.
Again, my letter was not intended to suggest to anyone that my setup is the
best. It is however what I use, suit yourself. I personally worry less
about weight than I do reliability, and being suitable to my environment.
You do as you wish.
Larry
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | reserve fuel tank test |
Makes sense.
Thanks for "enlightening" me. I need it.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charlie
England
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: reserve fuel tank test
It's American, but attributed to various people. I've often heard it
attributed to Kelly Johnson (Blackbird, etc), but..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Bushnell_Stout
The actual quote is 'simplicate and add lightness.' Eliminate anything
that isn't absolutely needed; keep what's left as light as possible.
Charlie
On 4/21/2014 11:44 AM, John Hauck wrote:
Patrick L/Kolbers:
Adding lightness must be a British thing. Is that the opposite of
adding heaviness?
Scratching my head at hauck's holler, Alabama.
Yes, I remember the year Patrick and Windy Ladd (sp) visited us at the
Unplanned, Unorganized Kolb Flyin, Monument Valley, Utah. Think that
was probably 2006/7??? We haven't had one there since 2010, the one I
missed. Now we gather/roost at the Rock House near Burns Junction, OR.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
First rule of building airplanes. SIMPLIFY AND ADD LIGHTNESS.
Pat
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FWIW Ive used gmail for a year with no problems, But I dont ask it to do much.
On Apr 21, 2014, at 10:55 AM, Pat Ladd wrote:
>
> Don`t know Thunderbird. G mail has been suggested. Pat
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Richard Pike
> Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 1:21 PM
> To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: help
>
>
> I fought with Live Mail for a couple months, the final straw came as I was using
it for our aircraft club email newsletters and it became selective about how
many of the Bcc addresses it would send, randomly leaving out 2/3's of the
list.
>
> Now I use Live Mail only for my incoming unimportant mail accounts, and Thunderbird
for the important stuff.
>
> --------
> Richard Pike
> Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> Kingsport, TN 3TN0
> My soul shall be joyful in the LORD; It shall rejoice in His salvation. Psalm
35:9
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| Subject: | Re: Aligning landing gear |
| From: | "west1m" <west1m(at)hotmail.com> |
I just purchased a used Firefly with some damage to the cage and fiberglass nosecone.
What is the bar in the picture? Is that some kind of protection for the
nose if it goes over? what is it attached to?
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| Subject: | Re: Aligning landing gear |
| From: | "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
zeprep251(at)aol.com wrote:
> The picture showed up here JG.Easy way to do it except for the 200.00 dollars
worth of copper tubing.
> G.Aman
> --
Right on. So go to Lowe's, buy a 5/8" grounding rod and use it, it's what I used
on the MKIII years ago, since the MKIII has 5/8" axles, and I expect the FS
does too. When you get done, take it back to Lowe's for a refund.
http://www.lowes.com/pd_70861-28781-70861_0__?productId=3446272&Ntt=grounding+rod&pl=1¤tURL=%3FNtt%3Dgrounding%2Brod&facetInfo
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Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
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| From: | "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: reserve fuel tank test |
Yes, I remember the year Patrick and Windy Ladd (sp) visited us at the
Unplanned, Unorganized Kolb Flyin, Monument Valley, Utah. Think that
was probably 2006/7???
Hi John,
That would be it. I remember on the drive to Santa Fe looking at the
GPS in the car. It read `In 150 miles Turn Left`
Thats America.
Have a good meet.
Pat
First rule of building airplanes. SIMPLIFY AND ADD LIGHTNESS.
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| Subject: | Re: Aligning landing gear |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
Shouldn't you at least pay them rent, or contribute to the coffee
fund???????
Larry
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Richard Pike wrote:
>
> Right on. So go to Lowe's, buy a 5/8" grounding rod and use it, it's what
> I used on the MKIII years ago, since the MKIII has 5/8" axles, and I expect
> the FS does too. When you get done, take it back to Lowe's for a refund.
>
>
> http://www.lowes.com/pd_70861-28781-70861_0__?productId=3446272&Ntt=grounding+rod&pl=1¤tURL=%3FNtt%3Dgrounding%2Brod&facetInfo
>
> --------
> Richard Pike
> Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> Kingsport, TN 3TN0
> My soul shall be joyful in the LORD; It shall rejoice in His salvation.
> Psalm 35:9
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
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| From: | "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
Hi all,
I have apparently been hacked and a number of messages waiting in my
outbox had to be deleted during the `sorting things out` period.
If anyone thinks that they are due a reply from me please let me know.
Sorry
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Aligning landing gear |
| From: | "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
I was trying to be funny. The grounding rod I bought back when I was building my
MKIII is still hanging on my garage wall, even though I have no use for it.
[quote="lcottrell"]Shouldn't you at least pay them rent, or contribute to the coffee
fund???????
Larry
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Richard Pike wrote:
>
> Right on. So go to Lowe's, buy a 5/8" grounding rod and use it, it's what I
used on the MKIII years ago, since the MKIII has 5/8" axles, and I expect the
FS does too. When you get done, take it back to Lowe's for a refund.
>
> http://www.lowes.com/pd_70861-28781-70861_0__?productId=3446272&Ntt=grounding+rod&pl=1¤tURL=%3FNtt%3Dgrounding%2Brod&facetInfo= (http://www.lowes.com/pd_70861-28781-70861_0__?productId=3446272&Ntt=grounding+rod&pl=1¤tURL=%3FNtt%3Dgrounding%2Brod&facetInfo=)
>
> --------
> Richard Pike
> Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> Kingsport, TN 3TN0
> My soul shall be joyful in the LORD; It shall rejoice in His salvation. Psalm
35:9
>
>
--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
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| Subject: | Re: Aligning landing gear |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
I was trying to be funny. The grounding rod I bought back when I was
building my MKIII is still hanging on my garage wall, even though I have no
use for it.
[quote="lcottrell"]Shouldn't you at least pay them rent, or contribute to
the coffee fund???????
Larry
I did laugh, I guess both of us should have used a funny face with our
comments. :-)
Larry
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 11:46 AM, Richard Pike wrote:
>
> I was trying to be funny. The grounding rod I bought back when I was
> building my MKIII is still hanging on my garage wall, even though I have no
> use for it.
>
> [quote="lcottrell"]Shouldn't you at least pay them rent, or contribute to
> the coffee fund???????
> Larry
>
> On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Richard Pike wrote:
>
> >
> > Right on. So go to Lowe's, buy a 5/8" grounding rod and use it, it's
> what I used on the MKIII years ago, since the MKIII has 5/8" axles, and I
> expect the FS does too. When you get done, take it back to Lowe's for a
> refund.
> >
> >
> http://www.lowes.com/pd_70861-28781-70861_0__?productId=3446272&Ntt=grounding+rod&pl=1¤tURL=%3FNtt%3Dgrounding%2Brod&facetInfo=(
> http://www.lowes.com/pd_70861-28781-70861_0__?productId=3446272&Ntt=grounding+rod&pl=1¤tURL=%3FNtt%3Dgrounding%2Brod&facetInfo
> )
> >
> > --------
> > Richard Pike
> > Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> > Kingsport, TN 3TN0
> > My soul shall be joyful in the LORD; It shall rejoice in His salvation.
> Psalm 35:9
> >
> >
>
>
> --------
> Richard Pike
> Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> Kingsport, TN 3TN0
> My soul shall be joyful in the LORD; It shall rejoice in His salvation.
> Psalm 35:9
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
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| Subject: | Re: Aligning landing gear |
| From: | B Young <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com> |
I liked the straight edge behind the wheels and the carpenter square along
the side. Seems more accurate than the axle method
Boyd
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| Subject: | Re: Post Your Kolb Pictures |
| From: | "ces308" <ces308(at)ldaco.com> |
Hello all ! Long time no see ! Just stopped in to see what was going on ! Here
is a picture of mine about 6 weeks ago on Houghton Lake, Mi. Ice just got off
the lake. Was up Sunday and there was only a little spot in the middle ...
It's been a LONG winter ! lol
Fly safe !
chris ambrose
M3X Jabaru A-2200
N327CS
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Post Your Kolb Pictures |
Good to see Chris A back on the List.
Happened upon a little history and decided to share it with you all. This
photo is me and my FS at the Prattville, Alabama, airport, Fall 1989. What
a difference 25 years makes.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
Hello all ! Long time no see ! Just stopped in to see what was going on !
Here is a picture of mine about 6 weeks ago on Houghton Lake, Mi. Ice just
got off the lake. Was up Sunday and there was only a little spot in the
middle ... It's been a LONG winter ! lol
Fly safe !
chris ambrose
M3X Jabaru A-2200
N327CS
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Post Your Kolb Pictures |
More history. Me and my Ultrastar, 1984. The first airplane I built and
one of my favorites. It was also the first fixed wing aircraft I had every
flown. My test flight was also my fixed wing solo flight. I taxied up and
down the cow pasture airstrip. The pasture was rough with cow pies
everywhere. After a couple trips up and down the 600 foot strip I got tired
of getting covered with crap and beating up my brand new airplane. Next
time I turned around at the end of the strip I pushed the throttle wide open
and took off. It was wonderful to fly again for the first time since I got
out of a Huey 8 years prior. Wow! The Ultrastar didn't fly like a
helicopter, but I soon got used to it. Those were the good old days.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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| Subject: | Re: Aligning landing gear |
| From: | "west1m" <west1m(at)hotmail.com> |
I was not refering to the horizontal grounding bar but the verticle tube in the
foreground. is this to protect the front in case of a noseover?
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| From: | "Beauford " <beauford173(at)tampabay.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Aligning landing gear |
Brother West1m:
To address your repeated question, sir:
The U-shaped tube under the nose was reportedly installed by some builders
to keep the machine from going up on the nose
if mishandled...repeat MISHANDLED. It does not appear on my 1998 factory
Fire Fly plans and, near as I can tell, is not mentioned in the factory
building manual for the Fly as it was sent to me at that time. There is no
such U-tube device on my Fly.
IMHO, if the would-be Fly aviator applies the throttle gradually on takeoff,
uses average to good tail wheel technique, and refrains from stomping on the
brakes while in motion, the U-tube is not required for normal Fly operation.
As I recall, I have never seen it installed on any Fire Fly I have
personally observed. I have no clue about what it was connected to when it
was installed, or how well it did, or did not, work.
If you have safety or structural concerns about it, I advise you to consult
with Travis at the New Kolb Aircraft Co..
Your results may vary. The laws of physics apply. Do what you think
appropriate. Gravity is a bitch who ultimately wins...
Worth what ye paid fer it...
beauford
FF-076
Brandon, FL
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I was not refering to the horizontal grounding bar but the verticle tube in
the foreground. is this to protect the front in case of a noseover?
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West1m
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| Subject: | Re: Aligning landing gear |
| From: | "west1m" <west1m(at)hotmail.com> |
Thanks for the reply! As I have been working to repair the fiberglass nose cone
obviously cracked up from a noseover it looked like something that belonged there.
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West1m
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| Subject: | Re: Post Your Kolb Pictures |
| From: | "ces308" <ces308(at)ldaco.com> |
John...looks like the only difference is your plane has more stickers on now...lol
Glad to hear you are doing fine !
chris ambrose
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| From: | "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Aligning landing gear |
Hi,
If you are referring to the bow which appears under the nose of some
Kolbs,forget it. In theory it stops the plane standing on its nose. In
practice, if you have got things wrong the nose will be yawing anyway and
the bow will be laid flat. Ask me how I know.
Just ensure that the stick is RIGHT BACK when you taxi, and open the
throttle gently.
Good luck
Pat
-----Original Message-----
From: west1m
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 1:41 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Aligning landing gear
I was not refering to the horizontal grounding bar but the verticle tube in
the foreground. is this to protect the front in case of a noseover?
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West1m
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| From: | "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Post Your Kolb Pictures |
Hi,
re the `D-Day stripes on the wing. Put there as you probably know so that
the ack ack gunners just fired at anything without them.
My family ran a hardware and paint store during the war and just before
D-Day a lorry from the local airfield arrived and requisitioned all the
black and white paint we had in stock to paint the aircraft.
A couple of months ago at a meeting of ex glider and para`s I met the man
who signed the requisition more than 60 years ago. Long arm of coincidence.
Pat
-----Original Message-----
From: ces308
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 12:57 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Post Your Kolb Pictures
Hello all ! Long time no see ! Just stopped in to see what was going on !
Here is a picture of mine about 6 weeks ago on Houghton Lake, Mi. Ice just
got off the lake. Was up Sunday and there was only a little spot in the
middle ... It's been a LONG winter ! lol
Fly safe !
chris ambrose
M3X Jabaru A-2200
N327CS
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| Subject: | Re: Aligning landing gear |
| From: | "west1m" <west1m(at)hotmail.com> |
So... Maybe I need to stop at Northern Tool and pick up one of the big casters
with a 4 inch inflatable tire? OK I'll try easy on the throttle when I get this
thing back together.
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West1m
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| From: | "Beauford " <beauford173(at)tampabay.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Aligning landing gear |
Brother West1M:
As you note, being easy on the throttle from a standing start ought to take
care of the largest part of the business... With my
excessive flab (213) perched in the front, it is easily possible to get my
Fly's tail to come up, regardless of the
full aft position of the stick, by just advancing the throttle abruptly. As
a positive, it is possible to learn to use this in order to
swing the tail around while taxiing -- forward on the stick, hold the
appropriate brake/rudder, give it just enough throttle
to get the tail wheel an inch or two off the ground and you can put the tail
wherever you want it without placing
any side loads on the non-swiveling tailwheel and its support structure.
Back in the days of tailskids on airplanes, this
was a standard technique. Use it at your own risk.
I practice this because side loads on Kolb tail wheels are generally to be
avoided and some wise Kolbers have seen the need to install reinforcing side
straps on the wheel structure. You can find more on that subject in the
archives... It was well covered.
Have also found that taxing across a good sized rut or dropping a wheel into
an unexpected hole can bring the Fly's tail
up if there is a sudden stop... It pays to look at the ground ahead,
especially with 'dillos and wild hogs such as we have around here.
All that said, you should have no problems operating without the training
bib under the nose. Look around at all of the Fly photos
out on the net... Would bet that you will have difficulty finding even one
or two with that gizmo installed on it... Just use sound tailwheel control
inputs/techniques and you ought to be OK. Northern Tool stuff tends to be
kinda heavy...
Worth what ye paid fer it...
Good luck... Enjoy your Fly.
Beauford
FF-076
Brandon, FL
-----Original Message-----
So... Maybe I need to stop at Northern Tool and pick up one of the big
casters with a 4 inch inflatable tire? OK I'll try easy on the throttle when
I get this thing back together.
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| Subject: | Re: Aligning landing gear |
| From: | "west1m" <west1m(at)hotmail.com> |
They must be a little rough on the tail wheel system. The round bar that the wheel
connects to takes several turns from the boom to the wheel. I bought a new
piece of aluminum to replace it with but did not get to it after looking at how
well it is connected to the airframe.
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West1m
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| Subject: | Flying Miss Nancy |
| From: | "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
Took a delightful little octogenarian lady for a flight this evening, I invited
her several days ago, and today the wx behaved, and it all came together. (Except
the intercom - my other old headset died, but - no biggie)
Such a joy to take somebody for a ride and when they get out, they are totally
delighted to have gone for a ride with you in your Kolb. Flying is so much more
fun when it is delightfully shared.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7Rr8BF7EPY
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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
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| From: | "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Flying Miss Nancy |
Nice pics Richard. Pretty countryside.
In the days when I had a Challenger a friend asked me if I would take his
wife for a flight. She had been very ill for years and was badly crippled.
In fact I thought that she was too distorted to get in. The Challenger was
difficult enough for someone able bodied.
With some difficulty we managed to work her down into the cockpit and I
took her for half and hour around the local town and over her house. She
lapped it up.
A few days later she was at the doctors as usual and told him that she had
been for a flight in a microlight. Doctor went apoplectic. Why didn`t you
ask me first ? Because I knew you would you would veto it.
She died shortly afterwards and I was always pleased that I had been able to
give her that special outing.
Pat
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Pike
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 5:21 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Flying Miss Nancy
Took a delightful little octogenarian lady for a flight
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| Subject: | Uncoordinated flight help! |
| From: | "Adam Canterbury" <canterbury.adam(at)gmail.com> |
I have a Kolb Kolbra and I am needing some advice on how to change the rigging
of the flight controls. I am having to hold a good deal of right rudder in straight
and level flight to get the ball centered. I do have a substantial trim
tab on the rudder. What can be done to correct this problem? I would like for
the plane to fly straight hands off. Is that too much to ask?
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| From: | "b young" <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Uncoordinated flight help! |
it might not be too much to ask... but your results may vary....... when I
looked at your photo... I saw your trim tab on the side of the rudder.....
I am not an aerospace engineer,,, but in my humble opinion the trim tab as
installed is working more as a spoiler, creating quite a bit of drag behind
the tab and not deflecting the rudder as you would want........ in my
humble opinion,, the trim tab would be more effective if it were installed
so the bend was just behind the trailing edge. this way it could become
part of the airfoil...
boyd young
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I have a Kolb Kolbra and I am needing some advice on how to change the
rigging of the flight controls. I am having to hold a good deal of right
rudder in straight and level flight to get the ball centered. I do have a
substantial trim tab on the rudder. What can be done to correct this
problem? I would like for the plane to fly straight hands off. Is that too
much to ask?
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| Subject: | Re: Uncoordinated flight help! |
| From: | "Adam Canterbury" <canterbury.adam(at)gmail.com> |
That does make sense. I am just trying to work out all the bugs on this airplane
that the previous owner neglected. Thanks for the reply.
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| Subject: | Re: Uncoordinated flight help! |
| From: | Frank Goodnight <frank.goodnight(at)att.net> |
Hi ,
I do believe that Boyd is right. However if that doesn't compleatly
Solve the problem. You might want to try welding up the hole in one or
both of the mounting tabs for the wing and redrilling the holes in a
Slightly differently position. Quite a bit of work but it worked for my Firestar.
Good luck
Frank.
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 27, 2014, at 11:07 AM, "Adam Canterbury" wrote:
>
> That does make sense. I am just trying to work out all the bugs on this airplane
that the previous owner neglected. Thanks for the reply.
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| Subject: | Need Helmet/Headset Recommendation |
| From: | "Adam Canterbury" <canterbury.adam(at)gmail.com> |
I need a recommendation on a good Helmet/Headset system. I am looking at Lynx or
FlyCom. Maybe a good noise cancelling headset alone will be good. Like a Lightspeed
Zulu or a Bose A20. I just need something designed for use in a noisy
cockpit.
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| Subject: | Re: Need Helmet/Headset Recommendation |
| From: | Rick Neilsen <neilsenrm(at)gmail.com> |
Adam
do your own research and you will get some good advice from the group. I
have walked by the Bose tent hundreds of times, they have a low frequency
noise they generate that their headphones (seems like they are one of the
best?) do a real good job filtering out. My redrive VW produces a higher
frequency noise and Rotax engines are even higher frequency that noise
canceling headphone have trouble stopping. I have a Sigtronics headset that
I have installed the Headsets noise canceling kit in. It does a fair job
but needs help. I wear the in the ear canal ear phones (low profile) under
my headsets and the two do a real good job.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Adam Canterbury wrote:
> canterbury.adam(at)gmail.com>
>
> I need a recommendation on a good Helmet/Headset system. I am looking at
> Lynx or FlyCom. Maybe a good noise cancelling headset alone will be good.
> Like a Lightspeed Zulu or a Bose A20. I just need something designed for
> use in a noisy cockpit.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422455#422455
>
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| From: | "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Uncoordinated flight help! |
Hi,
Is the problem that she wants to roll or to yaw?
If its roll. (assuming the Kolbra is rigged like the Xtra) adjust the height
of the trailing edges. Yaw. just check that everything is built square,
engine properly aligned. Probably take the trim tab off and start from
scratch. When you start making adjustments do ONE thing at a time.
As one of our main gurus says
Worth what you paid for it.
Pat
-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Canterbury
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 4:39 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Uncoordinated flight help!
I have a Kolb Kolbra and I am needing some advice on how to change the
rigging of the flight controls. I am having to hold a good deal of right
rudder in straight and level flight to get the ball centered. I do have a
substantial trim tab on the rudder. What can be done to correct this
problem? I would like for the plane to fly straight hands off. Is that too
much to ask?
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| Subject: | Re: Need Helmet/Headset Recommendation |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Rick Neilsen wrote:
> Adam
>
> do your own research and you will get some good advice from the group. I
> have walked by the Bose tent hundreds of times, they have a low frequency
> noise they generate that their headphones (seems like they are one of the
> best?) do a real good job filtering out. My redrive VW produces a higher
> frequency noise and Rotax engines are even higher frequency that noise
> canceling headphone have trouble stopping. I have a Sigtronics headset that
> I have installed the Headsets noise canceling kit in. It does a fair job
> but needs help. I wear the in the ear canal ear phones (low profile) under
> my headsets and the two do a real good job.
>
> Rick Neilsen
> Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
>
>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Head phones are funny. I have a Sigtronics S45 that works quite well for
>> me. The reason that they don't work better is that the spring holding the
>> headset to your head is a little weak. I just installed a strap that will
>> allow me to pull it tight under my chin, so that it will block more of the
>> noise. If I did not wear glasses and have a beard, I am sure that it would
>> do a better job. I did install the gel ear pads, and they helped a lot.
>>
>
I have a friend that put ANL into the same set and he likes it a lot. It
is worse than the ones that I have-- to me. He has tried mine and the noise
is much worse, so its not the headsets, it is my ears, and the frequency. I
had a DRE anr headset that I sold because it was not as quiet as my Sigs.
Others swear by them. You are just going to have to try them to see which
fits you.
The Bose are a bit out of my price range, so I cannot comment on them. The
David Clark are good headsets, but they squeeze my head like a zit, and I
cannot wear them for very long until it becomes a distraction.
Of all the cheap (reasonable ) headsets out there, Sigtronics are the best.
Good luck,
Larry
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| Subject: | Re: Uncoordinated flight help! |
| From: | Rick Neilsen <neilsenrm(at)gmail.com> |
Adam
Frank has introduce another component of trim. It your plane rolls right or
left it is a rigging issue that can be resolved by as Frank suggests,
buying the Kolb universal bracket that allows the owner to do small
adjustments to the angle of attack of one wing and/or aileron trim tabs.
These will fix roll tendencies that are countered by lateral pressure on
the stick.
The trim tab on the rudder counters P factor from the prop under power. You
can can get a roll trim issue if you are slipping sideways so you need to
know where the issue is.
You may know this but the trim tab on the rudder doesn't trim the airplane
it only moves the rudder in the direction where it will trim the airplane.
When installed properly it looks backward. The photo shows the trim tab in
less than ideal location. It should be a attached as far aft on the rudder
as possible. I would recommend moving it aft as far as possible positioned
on the angle of the trailing edge of the rudder and down a bit (may be one
rib) from the current location. You may want to round the sharp edges a bit
also.
As always worth what you paid for it.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Frank Goodnight
wrote:
>
> Hi ,
> I do believe that Boyd is right. However if that doesn't compleatly
> Solve the problem. You might want to try welding up the hole in one or
> both of the mounting tabs for the wing and redrilling the holes in a
> Slightly differently position. Quite a bit of work but it worked for my
> Firestar.
> Good luck
> Frank.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Apr 27, 2014, at 11:07 AM, "Adam Canterbury"
> wrote:
>
> canterbury.adam(at)gmail.com>
> >
> > That does make sense. I am just trying to work out all the bugs on this
> airplane that the previous owner neglected. Thanks for the reply.
> >
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| Subject: | Re: Uncoordinated flight help! |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Rick Neilsen wrote:
> Adam
>
> Frank has introduce another component of trim. It your plane rolls right
> or left it is a rigging issue that can be resolved by as Frank suggests,
> buying the Kolb universal bracket that allows the owner to do small
> adjustments to the angle of attack of one wing and/or aileron trim tabs.
> These will fix roll tendencies that are countered by lateral pressure on
> the stick.
>
> The trim tab on the rudder counters P factor from the prop under power.
> You can can get a roll trim issue if you are slipping sideways so you need
> to know where the issue is.
>
> You may know this but the trim tab on the rudder doesn't trim the airplane
> it only moves the rudder in the direction where it will trim the airplane.
> When installed properly it looks backward. The photo shows the trim tab in
> less than ideal location. It should be a attached as far aft on the rudder
> as possible. I would recommend moving it aft as far as possible positioned
> on the angle of the trailing edge of the rudder and down a bit (may be one
> rib) from the current location. You may want to round the sharp edges a bit
> also.
>
> As always worth what you paid for it.
>
> Rick Neilsen
> Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
>
>>
>>
>> All of the previous comments apply, and they better explain your possible
fix. My purpose is to show you what I have to counter trim issues with
mine, perhaps there will be something there that will help you with your
problem.
If you use lexan for your trim tab, it helps with the visibility problem
that yours has. I put a much bigger one than I needed and trimmed it down,
1/4 inch at a time with tin snips, until it did no more than was needed to
keep the plane flying straight. Lexan can be bent cold with no problem. I
used a 2x4 and cut a kerf in it deep enough to get the bend that I needed.
Wood does not scratch it. If you have access to a "brake" then protect it
with cardboard and you will have something that will better blend in with
your paint color.
Larry
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| Subject: | Re: Uncoordinated flight help! |
| From: | "Adam Canterbury" <canterbury.adam(at)gmail.com> |
A lot of great information here. I think that I will take the trim tab off and
start from scratch. My problem is not a roll problem. Just yaw.
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Uncoordinated flight help! |
-->
A lot of great information here. I think that I will take the trim tab off
and start from scratch. My problem is not a roll problem. Just yaw.
Adam C/Kolbers:
Looks like the trim tab is on the left side of your rudder. I am assuming
the prop turns counterclockwise as seen from the rear facing forward. This
would be the same rotation as a 912. I don't know what engine you have.
Don't think that is important, but direction of rotation is.
There is a photo attached that shows my trim tab on my MKIII. The size and
angle centers the ball on my slip/skid indicator, feet off the pedals, at
cruise (80 mph) and most other airspeeds.
The other two photos are of an experimental trim tab that I tested and did
not use. However, the dimensions are what I have installed. The squiggly
lines indicate the bottom 1/3 I removed after discovering I had too much
trim tab initially.
The part that rivets to the rudder ribs is 1 7/8" wide. I used 1/8"
aluminum fabric rivets to attach the trim tab.
The angle is about 30 degrees and the trailing edge is 3 1/8" wide.
Total length is 14".
I have done a lot of experimenting with my MKIII over the past 22 years.
Rudder trim tabs is one of them. Finally, found the cure for my airplane,
and this is it.
Adverse yaw during cruise flight is caused, primarily, by the way the prop
wash strikes the vertical stabilizer, upper and lower, the rudder, and the
horizontal stabilizer.
It is not necessary to tuft the tail surfaces to find out what is happening
back there during flight. If you over fill the oil tank or fly in rough
air, there'll be enough oil mist hit the tail section to know right where
the prop wash is going. Prop wash does not come straight back from the
prop, but has tremendous twist, much like a tornado. This is what is
constantly hitting the tail surfaces, primarily the left side of the
vertical stab and the top of the left horizontal stab.
When mounting the rudder trim tab, insure the bend is in line with the
trailing edge of the rudder. Also insure the bottom of the trim tab is
clear of the inboard end of the elevator when the stick is full aft.
The above did not happen overnight. It took a lot of flying over the years
to nail down what the best fix would be.
This is how I did it. Not recommending anyone else do it my way.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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| Subject: | Re: Uncoordinated flight help! |
| From: | "Adam Canterbury" <canterbury.adam(at)gmail.com> |
I think I would be well suited to model a new trim tab like yours and go from there.
Thanks so much!
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422478#422478
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| Subject: | Re: Uncoordinated flight help! |
When you intentionally do a Slip , the ball is all whacked out, because you
are cross-controlled with both ailerons and rudder.
With that in mind, you probably also need aileron trim. Tell. what happens
when you try
to fly hands & feet off. The first action of the aircraft indicates a lot
where to start. It takes a careful balancing of both trims to get it flying
straight with the ball in the center. Don't dispair it is a repetitious
process to zero in.
Herb Graff
Mark III N246KT
In a message dated 4/27/2014 11:39:50 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
canterbury.adam(at)gmail.com writes:
I have a Kolb Kolbra and I am needing some advice on how to change the
rigging of the flight controls. I am having to hold a good deal of right
rudder in straight and level flight to get the ball centered. I do have a
substantial trim tab on the rudder. What can be done to correct this problem?
I
would like for the plane to fly straight hands off. Is that too much to ask?
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| Subject: | Re: Uncoordinated flight help! |
| From: | "racerjerry" <gki(at)suffolk.lib.ny.us> |
You might want to identify the source of your problem before applying band-aids.
See if you can borrow a digital protractor to check the wings for mounting
at different angles, but also for wing twist along the span. Tape the protractor
to a straight furring strip (1 x 2) that will span the leading and trailing
edges of the wing and run it along the underside of the wing to see how much
variation you have. Digital protractors are accurate to one tenth of a degree
and also you can zero them at any point to make readings / comparison extremely
easy. Nothing is perfect, but corrections are much better made after you
identify the source of the problem.
I hate to say this, but if you purchase a digital protractor from a home store
that has a liberal return policy
Well, the darned things work so well that you will probably want to keep it anyway.
--------
Jerry King
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422498#422498
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Uncoordinated flight help! |
-->
I think I would be well suited to model a new trim tab like yours and go
from there. Thanks so much!
Adam C/Kolbers:
The latest edition of the Kolb Extra wanted to fly right wing low during
initial flight testing. Was the weirdest feeling I have ever had in an
airplane. It did not want to continue to roll right once it got into its
right wing low position. Could not wait to land and try to figure out what
was going on. Taped a trim tab on the rudder and she flew straight and
level the next flight. Which brings up a point. Duct tape works great
during the initial testing of trim tabs on aileron, elevator, and rudder,
until it is determined what size and where you place them permanently, if at
all.
Getting the Kolb trimmed out works best making no more than one change at a
time.
All MKIII's I am aware of have adverse yaw and require a rudder trim tab to
correct.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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| Subject: | Re: Uncoordinated flight help! |
| From: | kinne russ <russk50(at)gmail.com> |
Adam
You may have a hard-to-diagnose problem, but you've also got a lot of advice.
I would certainly take off the trim tab and all other 'fixes' and fly it to see
what the basic problem is. Then add things one at a time & fly it again
And good luck
Russ K
On Apr 27, 2014, at 2:17 PM, Adam Canterbury wrote:
>
> A lot of great information here. I think that I will take the trim tab off and
start from scratch. My problem is not a roll problem. Just yaw.
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422467#422467
>
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| Subject: | Re: Uncoordinated flight help! |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
Which brings up a point. Duct tape works great
during the initial testing of trim tabs on aileron, elevator, and rudder,
until it is determined what size and where you place them permanently, if at
all.
I used "cleeko's" for mine. Worked well with no sitckey residue.
Larry
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 5:57 AM, John Hauck wrote:
>
>
> -->
>
> I think I would be well suited to model a new trim tab like yours and go
> from there. Thanks so much!
>
>
> Adam C/Kolbers:
>
> The latest edition of the Kolb Extra wanted to fly right wing low during
> initial flight testing. Was the weirdest feeling I have ever had in an
> airplane. It did not want to continue to roll right once it got into its
> right wing low position. Could not wait to land and try to figure out what
> was going on. Taped a trim tab on the rudder and she flew straight and
> level the next flight. Which brings up a point. Duct tape works great
> during the initial testing of trim tabs on aileron, elevator, and rudder,
> until it is determined what size and where you place them permanently, if
> at
> all.
>
> Getting the Kolb trimmed out works best making no more than one change at a
> time.
>
> All MKIII's I am aware of have adverse yaw and require a rudder trim tab to
> correct.
>
> john h
> mkIII
> Titus, Alabama
>
>
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*If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email
address before sending.*
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| From: | Charlie England <ceengland7(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Uncoordinated flight help! |
On 4/28/2014 6:01 AM, racerjerry wrote:
>
> You might want to identify the source of your problem before applying band-aids.
See if you can borrow a digital protractor to check the wings for mounting
at different angles, but also for wing twist along the span. Tape the protractor
to a straight furring strip (1 x 2) that will span the leading and trailing
edges of the wing and run it along the underside of the wing to see how much
variation you have. Digital protractors are accurate to one tenth of a degree
and also you can zero them at any point to make readings / comparison extremely
easy. Nothing is perfect, but corrections are much better made after you
identify the source of the problem.
>
> I hate to say this, but if you purchase a digital protractor from a home store
that has a liberal return policy
> Well, the darned things work so well that you will probably want to keep it anyway.
>
> --------
> Jerry King
>
Most newer smart phones & tablets have free apps available that work
just as well as an expensive digital level. If your device re-orients
the screen as you turn it from vertical to horizontal, you can probably
get a digital level app for it. I've been using one on my iphone 4 to
check all kinds of stuff during my RV-7 build. Not quite as convenient
as a dedicated tool, but the price is right.
When you check the wings, don't forget to check the ailerons & elevators
for twist, also. On the planes I normally fly (faster homebuilts), twist
there can have almost as much effect as a big trim tab.
Charlie
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Uncoordinated flight help! |
Adam C/Kolbers:
Keep it simple.
If it was my airplane, I'd pull off the incorrectly attached rudder trim tab.
Flight test the Kolbra without the tab, then tape on a tab in the correct position.
Continue to adjust the tab and flight test until happy as a lark the adverse
yaw problem has flown away. ;-)
I would not concern myself with "rerigging" the airplane until I eliminated the
adverse yaw.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charlie England
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Uncoordinated flight help!
On 4/28/2014 6:01 AM, racerjerry wrote:
>
> You might want to identify the source of your problem before applying band-aids.
See if you can borrow a digital protractor to check the wings for mounting
at different angles, but also for wing twist along the span. Tape the protractor
to a straight furring strip (1 x 2) that will span the leading and trailing
edges of the wing and run it along the underside of the wing to see how much
variation you have. Digital protractors are accurate to one tenth of a degree
and also you can zero them at any point to make readings / comparison extremely
easy. Nothing is perfect, but corrections are much better made after you
identify the source of the problem.
>
> I hate to say this, but if you purchase a digital protractor from a
> home store that has a liberal return policy Well, the darned things work so well
that you will probably want to keep it anyway.
>
> --------
> Jerry King
>
Most newer smart phones & tablets have free apps available that work just as well
as an expensive digital level. If your device re-orients the screen as you
turn it from vertical to horizontal, you can probably get a digital level app
for it. I've been using one on my iphone 4 to check all kinds of stuff during
my RV-7 build. Not quite as convenient as a dedicated tool, but the price is right.
When you check the wings, don't forget to check the ailerons & elevators for twist,
also. On the planes I normally fly (faster homebuilts), twist there can have
almost as much effect as a big trim tab.
Charlie
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| Subject: | C 90 disk brakes |
| From: | William D Bradshaw <piperj5(at)shtc.net> |
Anybody using Tracy O'Brien's C 90 disk brakes on a firestar. Would
appreciate a review of these brakes and the master cylinders used.
Danny Bradshaw
McBee, SC
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| From: | "west1m" <west1m(at)hotmail.com> |
Looking to loose a couple of pounds, does anyone make an aluminum exhaust elbow
and muffler? Or is this just too hot for aluminum?
--------
West1m
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422580#422580
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| From: | Charlie England <ceengland7(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: exhaust weight |
On 4/30/2014 7:23 AM, west1m wrote:
>
> Looking to loose a couple of pounds, does anyone make an aluminum exhaust elbow
and muffler? Or is this just too hot for aluminum?
>
> --------
> West1m
>
Aluminum melts at less than 1300 degrees F. EGT's are usually higher
than that. Even if it doesn't melt immediately, it will be so weak that
it will certainly fail.
Charlie
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| Subject: | Re: exhaust weight |
| From: | "west1m" <west1m(at)hotmail.com> |
Hmmm.. You are so correct, very low melting point. I should have looked that up
before I asked. I didn't think it had such a low melting temp being the rest
of the motor is made of aluminum, like pistons , exhaust ports etc...
--------
West1m
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422587#422587
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| From: | Dennis Rowe <rowedenny(at)windstream.net> |
| Subject: | Re: exhaust weight |
Too hot, stick with stock stuff.
Dennis "Skid" Rowe
Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA
> On Apr 30, 2014, at 8:23 AM, "west1m" wrote:
>
>
> Looking to loose a couple of pounds, does anyone make an aluminum exhaust elbow
and muffler? Or is this just too hot for aluminum?
>
> --------
> West1m
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422580#422580
>
>
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>
>
>
>
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>
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| Subject: | Re: exhaust weight |
| From: | Robert Laird <rlaird(at)cavediver.com> |
Eat just an apple for lunch for two weeks .... you'll lose a couple of
pounds! :-)
On Wednesday, April 30, 2014, Dennis Rowe wrote:
> >
>
> Too hot, stick with stock stuff.
>
> Dennis "Skid" Rowe
> Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA
>
>
> > On Apr 30, 2014, at 8:23 AM, "west1m" >
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Looking to loose a couple of pounds, does anyone make an aluminum
> exhaust elbow and muffler? Or is this just too hot for aluminum?
> >
> > --------
> > West1m
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422580#422580
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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| From: | william sullivan <williamtsullivan(at)att.net> |
| Subject: | Re: exhaust weight |
- I believe somebody makes a titanium muffler that will fit.=0A=0A--
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t: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 8:23 AM=0ASubject: Kolb-List: exhaust weight
=0ALooking to loose a couple of pounds, does anyone make an aluminum exhaus
t elbow and muffler? Or is this just too hot for aluminum?=0A=0A--------=0A
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=- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Matt Dralle
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| Subject: | Re: exhaust weight |
| From: | "west1m" <west1m(at)hotmail.com> |
Titanium... Sounds expensive! Didn't one of the Corvettes have one?
I think I saw one parked up the street...
--------
West1m
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422619#422619
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| Subject: | Re: Uncoordinated flight help! |
| From: | Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com> |
Adam, Attached is the Kolb factory trim tab drawing.
Rick Girard
On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Adam Canterbury
wrote:
> canterbury.adam(at)gmail.com>
>
> I think I would be well suited to model a new trim tab like yours and go
> from there. Thanks so much!
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422478#422478
>
>
--
Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Need Helmet/Headset Recommendation |
Rick G/Kolbers:
You'll never have a problem letting the airplane talk if it is a Kolb,
no matter what you wear on your head.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
I've flown with ANC headphones and they creep me out. I want headphones
that protect my hearing but still let the airplane talk to me. Old
school I guess.
Rick Girard
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Uncoordinated flight help! |
Rick G/Kolbers:
I'll be darn. That factory trim tab looks just like the one I posted a
few days ago.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
Adam, Attached is the Kolb factory trim tab drawing.
Rick Girard
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| From: | "Stuart Harner" <stuart(at)harnerfarm.net> |
| Subject: | control surface tapes |
OK, I have unsubscribed and re-subscribed to see if the list server will
accept my messages.
Guys,
Did you put tapes over the ribs on the control surfaces of your Kolb's?
I don't see anything in the instructions saying to do so, but I would thing
that anyplace the fabric touches framework there should be a finishing tape.
All the tail feathers on my Firefly are now covered and shrunk. I am ready
to apply perimeter tapes and got to thinking that the ribs on the elevators
and rudder should also be taped.
What say you?
Thanks,
Stuart
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| From: | kinne russ <russk50(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: control surface tapes |
Stuart
I bought a damaged Xtra, built by a very fine craftsman. Wing has
reinforcing tape (1/2" wide) over the fabric and under the big-head
rivets. Then finishing tape over that, and 4" bias tape over leading &
training edges. Flaperons have 1-1/2" tape over all ribs & struts,
bigger tapes over leading/trailing edges. Hope this helps
Russ K
On Apr 30, 2014, at 8:38 PM, Stuart Harner wrote:
> OK, I have unsubscribed and re-subscribed to see if the list server
will accept my messages.
>
> Guys,
>
> Did you put tapes over the ribs on the control surfaces of your
Kolb=92s?
>
> I don=92t see anything in the instructions saying to do so, but I
would thing that anyplace the fabric touches framework there should be a
finishing tape.
>
> All the tail feathers on my Firefly are now covered and shrunk. I am
ready to apply perimeter tapes and got to thinking that the ribs on the
elevators and rudder should also be taped.
>
> What say you?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Stuart
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Herb <herbgh(at)nctc.com> |
| Subject: | 447 engine to Stuart |
Stuart bought my 13 hour 447....and did not want the electric start...
any takers? Same 13 hours...right angle starter mount..Made by
GPL...may fit other Rotax engines?
$557 new...apply for discount...:-) Herb
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Dennis Rowe <rowedenny(at)windstream.net> |
| Subject: | Re: control surface tapes |
I taped mine
Dennis "Skid" Rowe
Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA
> On Apr 30, 2014, at 8:38 PM, "Stuart Harner" wrote
:
>
> OK, I have unsubscribed and re-subscribed to see if the list server will a
ccept my messages.
>
> Guys,
>
> Did you put tapes over the ribs on the control surfaces of your Kolb
=99s?
>
> I don=99t see anything in the instructions saying to do so, but I wo
uld thing that anyplace the fabric touches framework there should be a finis
hing tape.
>
> All the tail feathers on my Firefly are now covered and shrunk. I am read
y to apply perimeter tapes and got to thinking that the ribs on the elevator
s and rudder should also be taped.
>
> What say you?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Stuart
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Need Helmet/Headset Recommendation |
| From: | Rick Neilsen <neilsenrm(at)gmail.com> |
Right on John
Maybe its our age or maybe the damage we have already done to our ears but
having my ears ringing, more than it already do, after a flight is not
something I enjoy. I can hear my engine whispering to me just fine. I can
hear radio transmissions and even recognise their voices. A good ANC
headphone with passive ear phones under them as another layer of noise
reduction is really nice in my Kolb.
Creepy......... is watching someone talk to you and not hearing their voice.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 8:10 PM, John Hauck wrote:
> Rick G/Kolbers:
>
>
> You'll never have a problem letting the airplane talk if it is a Kolb, no
> matter what you wear on your head.
>
>
> john h
>
> mkIII
>
> Titus, Alabama
>
> I've flown with ANC headphones and they creep me out. I want headphones
> that protect my hearing but still let the airplane talk to me. Old school I
> guess.
>
>
> Rick Girard
>
>
> *
>
>
> *
>
>
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| From: | william sullivan <williamtsullivan(at)att.net> |
| Subject: | Re: exhaust weight |
- I looked it up once.- Titanium mufflers are made for motorcycles.-
I seem to remember that the price wasn't too bad, compared to Rotax.- Hav
e to check the flow rate, but sounds like one for a 450 would work.=0A=0A
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=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: west1m <west1m(at)hotmail.com>
=0ATo: kolb-list(at)matronics.com =0ASent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 5:20 PM
=0ASubject: Kolb-List: Re: exhaust weight=0A =0A=0A--> Kolb-List message po
sted by: "west1m" =0A=0ATitanium... Sounds expensive! D
idn't one of the Corvettes have one?=0AI think I saw one parked up the stre
et...=0A=0A--------=0AWest1m=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A
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| Subject: | Re: Uncoordinated flight help! |
| From: | Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com> |
John, I took the tab off "The Plane from Hell" and tried to fly it. It was
okay, if you like flying sideways or getting a big cramp in your left leg
trying to make the airplane fly straight. Put it back per the Kolb plans
and the aircraft was once again easy to fly and keep the yaw string
centered. I only wish I'd been able to put my engine on it and test that
configuration.
Rick
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 7:12 PM, John Hauck wrote:
> Rick G/Kolbers:
>
>
> I'll be darn. That factory trim tab looks just like the one I posted a
> few days ago.
>
>
> john h
>
> mkIII
>
> Titus, Alabama
>
>
> Adam, Attached is the Kolb factory trim tab drawing.
>
>
> Rick Girard
>
>
> *
>
>
> *
>
>
--
Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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| Subject: | Re: 447 engine to Stuart |
| From: | Roy Spangler <roy.spangler(at)kirtland.edu> |
How much ?
roy
989-329-3557
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 9:22 PM, Herb wrote:
>
> Stuart bought my 13 hour 447....and did not want the electric start...
>
> any takers? Same 13 hours...right angle starter mount..Made by
> GPL...may fit other Rotax engines?
>
> $557 new...apply for discount...:-) Herb
>
>
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| From: | "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: control surface tapes |
When I built my Challenger the Inspector who kept a watching brief over
the standard of workmanship (thats the way we do it here) insisted on
tape on every surface that the fabric was going to touch the fabric.
Pat
From: Stuart Harner
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 1:38 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: control surface tapes
Did you put tapes over the ribs on the control surfaces of your
Kolb=99s?
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| From: | Bob Green <bgreen(at)bimi.org> |
| Subject: | RE: Kolb-List Digest: 24 Msgs - 04/30/14 |
A good set of David Clark headphones and mic are great. Good sound attenuation
and the setting for quieting the engine noise is optional.
Also I taped over any fabric with metal to fabric contact.
Sounds good about the trim tab John.
Great to hear the recommendations.
Bob
MKIIIX
N830PB
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| Subject: | Re: Uncoordinated flight help! |
| From: | "Adam Canterbury" <canterbury.adam(at)gmail.com> |
I flew the aircraft today without the trim tab and it was as expected. Right leg
was sore after one trip around the patch. I will be fabricating a new trim tab
soon and give that a try. I would like to install some kind of reinforcement
to the rudder to mount the tab to instead of trying to drill the small round
tubing. It is hard to keep the drill bit from walking. I might check with a friend
that has a machine shop and see if he can make some kind of jig or fixture
to help with that. I appreciate all of the feedback.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422716#422716
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| From: | "George Bearden" <gab16(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | RE: Kolb-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 05/01/14 |
> I might check with a friend that has a machine shop and see if he can make
some kind of jig or fixture to help with that. I appreciate all of the
feedback.
I have an attachment on my drill motor that handles that fairly well. It is
a device to help make truly vertical holes, it has a platform that sits on
flat surfaces. It can slide or be locked on to the two supporting rods.
I should just go take a picture of it. Mostly I leave most of the
device off, except the piece behind the chuck that holds the rods. The top
of the platform, which is about 8" from the chuck, at the end of the rods,
has 'V' blocks made in. Oh, forget it, I'll take a picture. The V-blocks
(cast in) hold tubular objects, the drill motor slides vertically down to
the work piece, held in alignment by the rods, the drill is held at right
angle to the work piece. Bought it about 35 years ago. Works like a charm
for many things. I learned 45 years ago that it is hard to hold a drill
truly normal (vertical) to a flat surface, while building the 747 in N. Long
Beach.
GeoB
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| From: | "Beauford " <beauford173(at)tampabay.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Uncoordinated flight help! |
Brother Canterbury:
A measure I have found to be effective is to beef up the spring(s) on the
offending rudder pedal.
I installed two springs, vice the one called for in the plans. This enabled
the use of a smaller rudder tab
and might save you from having to knock those additional holes in your
rudder.
Worth what ye paid fer it...
Beauford
FF-076
I flew the aircraft today without the trim tab and it was as expected. Right
leg was sore after one trip around the patch. I will be fabricating a new
trim tab soon and give that a try. I would like to install some kind of
reinforcement to the rudder to mount the tab to instead of trying to drill
the small round tubing. It is hard to keep the drill bit from walking. I
might check with a friend that has a machine shop and see if he can make
some kind of jig or fixture to help with that. I appreciate all of the
feedback.
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| Subject: | Re: Uncoordinated flight help! |
| From: | Frank Goodnight <frank.goodnight(at)att.net> |
Hi ,
I think --underline think-- that Kolb has a tool that is used to center the holes
when
drilling the ribs, you might give Travis a call.
Frank
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On May 1, 2014, at 10:00 PM, "Adam Canterbury" wrote:
>
> I flew the aircraft today without the trim tab and it was as expected. Right
leg was sore after one trip around the patch. I will be fabricating a new trim
tab soon and give that a try. I would like to install some kind of reinforcement
to the rudder to mount the tab to instead of trying to drill the small round
tubing. It is hard to keep the drill bit from walking. I might check with a
friend that has a machine shop and see if he can make some kind of jig or fixture
to help with that. I appreciate all of the feedback.
>
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| From: | "b young" <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: RE: Kolb-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 05/01/14 |
if you go to harbor freight... look for a center punch that is pressure
actuated..... when you push on it it builds up tension and then goes "snap"
an internal hammer gets released and hits the back of the point and makes a
perfect starting divot for a drill. if you "snap" it a few times the dent
will be large enough that the drill wont slip out, providing you have a good
drill bit. or start with a very small drill then work up to the size you
need. because you are working aluminum and not steel... try and find one
that has a less stiff spring,,, you dont want to bend the tubing when it
goes snap.... or hopefully you can get something to back up the tubing so
there is no possibility of bending it. best to try it on some scraps to
test the results before moving to the plane.... if you can find a sheet
metal fabricating shop,,, stop by and see if they have a 1/8th inch drill
bit that has a double grind on the tip,,, and that is probably not the best
description... they have a very sharp point due to the extra grinding on
the tip and have less tendency to move around when you start a hole,
especially when they have a center punched hole to start in. some of these
drill bits have been ground on both ends, and you get 2 cutting points in
one bit.
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| Subject: | video- Yanking, Banking and looking forFish |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | video- Yanking, Banking and looking forFish |
Makes me want to have my airplane out there, but not willing to pay the
price to fly it cross continent.
I couldn't tell what condition the river was in. Did it look ok to you?
john
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| Subject: | Re: video- Yanking, Banking and looking forFish |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
It is a bit high, but I think it is fishable. I am quite sure that we can
get across both spots. I have a friend from my boyhood days coming to visit
the 13th, and he is an ardent fisherman. At that date we might well still
be able to catch some trout. The end of the month, it will be about as low
as it was when we were there last.
I talked to JB and he isn't going to be able to come for the fly-in. He has
some grand kids that will be messing up his schedule. He won't make it
before late August or Sept.
Larry
On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 6:13 PM, John Hauck wrote:
> Makes me want to have my airplane out there, but not willing to pay the
> price to fly it cross continent.
>
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> I couldn't tell what condition the river was in. Did it look ok to you?
>
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> john
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| Subject: | Re: C 90 disk brakes |
| From: | "Adam Canterbury" <canterbury.adam(at)gmail.com> |
I am using the Obrien brakes on my Kolbra. I have the Matco MC-4 master cylinders.
Currently, the brakes are not working well. I am going to need to design some
different brake pedals that will give more leverage. I have heard that they
require a 4:1 mechanical advantage to work properly.
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| From: | william sullivan <williamtsullivan(at)att.net> |
| Subject: | Re: video- Yanking, Banking and looking forFish |
- Great video.- It still looks like a moonscape out there.=0A=0Ado not
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| Subject: | Re: Uncoordinated flight help! |
| From: | "Frankd" <FDucker(at)aol.com> |
Hi Adam,
I have a MkIII Xtra and attached a trim tab to the trailing edge of the rudder
to get my plane to fly straight with my feet off the rudder pedals.
I never had a sore foot like you, tho, and wonder if you have a bigger problem.
One thing I would check is the attachment of your vertical stab to the main fuselage
tube, at the front attachment point. If you look at some factory aircraft
you will see that the Vert Stab is offset by up to an inch to counteract the
effect of prop wash.
If your attachment is slightly off centerline this may be adding to the problem.
If your wing alignment is good and not creating a roll which then adds to your
rudder needs this is one area I would check.
It looked like you need right rudder trim, so if the front attachment is moved
silghtly left of centerline it could help alot. I still think you will need
a rudder trim tab to fine tune in-flight forces.
BTW, with my plane which has a jabiru 80HP engine, if you apply power quickly
on Take-off the prop blast pushes against the left side of the rudder and you
will be heading for the left side of the runway very quickly. I'm sure different
props/engines create different forces against rudders and some could be dramatic,
like yours.
Something to look at in your overall rigging.
Good luck, keep making those small changes one at a time and then one day you
will fly and realize its all working well.. Thats when it will all be worth it..
FrankD
1014S. 90Hrs
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| Subject: | Fwd: video- Yanking, Banking and looking forFish |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
I just went into the settings feature of Vimeo and changed the setting for
this video to 1080 P. It is much better and sharper. I was dissatisfied
with the clarity, and finally found how to change it to 1080. It also says
that if the computer trying to view it is not capable of viewing at that
resolution, it will drop it to a size that you can. I would be interested
if any of you have any trouble with it.
Larry
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| From: | "b young" <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Fwd: video- Yanking, Banking and looking forFish |
the video played good... the audio of your voice was low in comparison to
the music. but everything played ok.
boyd
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Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2014 8:07 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Fwd: video- Yanking, Banking and looking forFish
I just went into the settings feature of Vimeo and changed the setting for
this video to 1080 P. It is much better and sharper. I was dissatisfied wit
h the clarity, and finally found how to change it to 1080. It also says tha
t if the computer trying to view it is not capable of viewing at that resol
ution, it will drop it to a size that you can. I would be interested if any
of you have any trouble with it.
Larry
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| From: | "b young" <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Fwd: video- Yanking, Banking and looking for Fish |
the video played good... the audio of your voice was low in comparison to
the music. but everything played ok. with the high resolution,,, it dow
nloaded well.... if my internet were slower it may not keep up. it would
be easier to compare, if I had 2 videos side by side.
boyd
From: Larry Cottrell
Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2014 8:07 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Fwd: video- Yanking, Banking and looking forFish
I just went into the settings feature of Vimeo and changed the setting for
this video to 1080 P. It is much better and sharper. I was dissatisfied wit
h the clarity, and finally found how to change it to 1080. It also says tha
t if the computer trying to view it is not capable of viewing at that resol
ution, it will drop it to a size that you can. I would be interested if any
of you have any trouble with it.
Larry
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| Subject: | Re: Fwd: video- Yanking, Banking and looking for Fish |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
Just click the HD off
Larry
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 9:00 PM, b young wrote:
> the video played good... the audio of your voice was low in comparison
> to the music. but everything played ok. with the high resolution,,, it
> downloaded well.... if my internet were slower it may not keep up. it
> would be easier to compare, if I had 2 videos side by side.
>
>
> boyd
>
>
> *From:* Larry Cottrell
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> *Subject:* Kolb-List: Fwd: video- Yanking, Banking and looking forFish
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> I just went into the settings feature of Vimeo and changed the setting for
> this video to 1080 P. It is much better and sharper. I was dissatisfied
> with the clarity, and finally found how to change it to 1080. It also says
> that if the computer trying to view it is not capable of viewing at that
> resolution, it will drop it to a size that you can. I would be interested
> if any of you have any trouble with it.
> Larry
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| From: | "b young" <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Fwd: video- Yanking, Banking and looking forFish |
ok we turned it on and off several times at different places in the vide
o.... our opinion,,, the hd is kind of lost in sage brush,,,, it is
sharper,,, but flying by at 60 mph or double speed video... it did not
seem that much of an improvement.
boyd N Becky
From: Larry Cottrell
Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2014 8:07 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Fwd: video- Yanking, Banking and looking forFish
I just went into the settings feature of Vimeo and changed the setting for
this video to 1080 P. It is much better and sharper. I was dissatisfied wit
h the clarity, and finally found how to change it to 1080. It also says tha
t if the computer trying to view it is not capable of viewing at that resol
ution, it will drop it to a size that you can. I would be interested if any
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| Subject: | Re: 447 engine to Stuart |
| From: | "west1m" <west1m(at)hotmail.com> |
If Roy has not snatched it up I would be interested in the deeply discounted price.
Marlon
651-270-1597
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| From: | Heather Oldman <aoldman(at)xtra.co.nz> |
| Subject: | Re: Fwd: video- Yanking, Banking and looking forFish |
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| From: | "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Fwd: video- Yanking, Banking and looking forFish |
Still working for me Larry. Volume is way down though. I had my speakers
up to max.
Pat
From: Larry Cottrell
Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2014 3:07 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Fwd: video- Yanking, Banking and looking forFish
I just went into the settings feature of Vimeo and changed the setting
for this video to 1080 P. It is much better and sharper. I was
dissatisfied with the clarity, and finally found how to change it to
1080. It also says that if the computer trying to view it is not capable
of viewing at that resolution, it will drop it to a size that you can. I
would be interested if any of you have any trouble with it.
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| From: | Clyde MacQuarrie <clydemacquarrie(at)eastlink.ca> |
| Subject: | Re: Uncoordinated flight help! |
Adam. Try using a bullet-type drill bit. This type of bit has a tip much
small than a normal size. Clyde MacQuarrie.
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From: "Adam Canterbury" <canterbury.adam(at)gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:00 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Uncoordinated flight help!
>
>
> I flew the aircraft today without the trim tab and it was as expected.
> Right leg was sore after one trip around the patch. I will be fabricating
> a new trim tab soon and give that a try. I would like to install some kind
> of reinforcement to the rudder to mount the tab to instead of trying to
> drill the small round tubing. It is hard to keep the drill bit from
> walking. I might check with a friend that has a machine shop and see if he
> can make some kind of jig or fixture to help with that. I appreciate all
> of the feedback.
>
>
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| Subject: | Flying To Monument Valley - Hopefully! |
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| Subject: | Re: Uncoordinated flight help! |
| From: | "racerjerry" <gki(at)suffolk.lib.ny.us> |
Yes, drill bits tend to walk without a starting point/hole. Grab a small strip
of oak (I use scrap hardwood flooring) and cut it down to 1 x 3 (or smaller).
File (or mill) a very shallow slot across the block to match the radius of your
tubing, which I assume is 5/16 diameter. In the center of the shallow slot,
drill a hole using a #40 drill bit. Sand and round off all corners of the
block on the slotted side. The slot in the block will allow you to locate and
center the wooden block over the fabric / tubing and pressing on the block will
retard the tendency for the drill bit to walk. It is better to start small
with a #40 drill bit used as a pilot drill. Once you have the initial hole, it
is very easy to open them up to full rivet size. The hardwood block will eventually
wear; but will surely last long enough to complete your task. Good luck.
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| Subject: | Re: 447 engine to Stuart |
| From: | Roy Spangler <roy.spangler(at)kirtland.edu> |
Go for it !
roy
On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 1:00 AM, west1m wrote:
>
> If Roy has not snatched it up I would be interested in the deeply
> discounted price.
> Marlon
> 651-270-1597
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| Subject: | Re: Uncoordinated flight help! |
| From: | "Rex Rodebush" <jrrodebush(at)gmail.com> |
The bullet-type drill bits are great but I have not been able to get them for the
past 2-3 years. Couldn't even find them on the internet. If you know of a
source let me know.
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| From: | "Nick Cassara" <nickc(at)mtaonline.net> |
| Subject: | New Tires availabe soon |
Hello Kolbers,
I visited the Alaska Airmen's Great Alaska Aircraft Gathering over the
weekend at Anchorage International Airport. The rep from Desser Tire and
Rubber had a soft smooth 8.5 X 6 LSA tire in display. The weight of the tire
is 10 lbs. The Rep said they are going to produce a whole line of tundra
tires. Sounds like they are going to give Bush Wheels Airstreak tires some
competition.They are asking $175 for preorders of the 8.5 X 6. The rep said
their prices will be lower than Bush Wheels.
There is a fellow in Arizona who has 26" Airstreaks on a Kolbra he is
working on. He likes the tall tires and said the it allow he some nice soft
landing in the rough country where he flys.
Nick Cassara
Palmer, Alaska
N607AK
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| Subject: | Re: Uncoordinated flight help! |
| From: | Martin Koxxy <martinkoxxy(at)gmail.com> |
Split-point bits work great. I bought a 10-pack #30s and made it through my
entire project (Earthstar eGull).
Martin
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Rex Rodebush wrote:
>
> The bullet-type drill bits are great but I have not been able to get them
> for the past 2-3 years. Couldn't even find them on the internet. If you
> know of a source let me know.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: New Tires availabe soon |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
http://www.desser.com/pressrelease_tundratire.php
This is the link to the tire.
Larry
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Nick Cassara wrote:
> Hello Kolbers,
>
>
> I visited the Alaska Airmen=99s Great Alaska Aircraft Gathering ove
r the
> weekend at Anchorage International Airport. The rep from Desser Tire and
> Rubber had a soft smooth 8.5 X 6 LSA tire in display. The weight of the
> tire is 10 lbs. The Rep said they are going to produce a whole line of
> tundra tires. Sounds like they are going to give Bush Wheels Airstreak
> tires some competitionThey are asking $175 for preorders of the
8.5 X 6.
> The rep said their prices will be lower than Bush Wheels.
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> There is a fellow in Arizona who has 26=9D Airstreaks on a Kolbra h
e is
> working on. He likes the tall tires and said the it allow he some nice so
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> landing in the rough country where he flys.
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| Subject: | Re: Uncoordinated flight help! |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
http://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DW1956-Pilot-16-Piece-Assortment/dp/B0000E6UE1/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1399317758&sr=8-1&keywords=bullet+point+drill+bits
Try this link for drill bits.
Larry
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Rex Rodebush wrote:
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>> The bullet-type drill bits are great but I have not been able to get them
>> for the past 2-3 years. Couldn't even find them on the internet. If you
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| From: | "Rex Rodebush" <jrrodebush(at)gmail.com> |
Russ,
No, the bits I remember were made/sold by Black & Decker. The 1/8" bit had a "mini"
bit on the tip probably around 1/32" which made a pilot hole to guide the
1/8" bit into. It was so small it was no problem to drill into a rib tube without
it moving around. I think it was called a "Pilot Point" bit?
Rex
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| Subject: | Re: Uncoordinated flight help! |
| From: | "Rex Rodebush" <jrrodebush(at)gmail.com> |
Just checked on the net. Looks like Dewalt is making a pilot point bit that looks
the same as the old Black and Decker one.
Rex
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| Subject: | Re: Uncoordinated flight help! |
| From: | "Rex Rodebush" <jrrodebush(at)gmail.com> |
Russ,
I should have read your email closer. Getting too old! Your bit sounds exactly
like the ones B & D made only they were single ended and a lot cheaper.
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| Subject: | Re: Uncoordinated flight help! |
| From: | kinne russ <russk50(at)gmail.com> |
Sounds like the same bit. These are US-made. Dunno what B&D uses
Russ
On May 5, 2014, at 8:28 PM, Rex Rodebush wrote:
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> Russ,
>
> No, the bits I remember were made/sold by Black & Decker. The 1/8" bit had a
"mini" bit on the tip probably around 1/32" which made a pilot hole to guide
the 1/8" bit into. It was so small it was no problem to drill into a rib tube
without it moving around. I think it was called a "Pilot Point" bit?
>
> Rex
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| Subject: | Re: New Tires availabe soon |
Desser has had another 21 tire on their website for a while that will also fit
on a 6"rim. It comes in two versions, one that has mostly smooth tread (just
a couple of ribs) that weighs 11 lbs and one that has the tread buffed off that
weighs a couple pounds less. They are not certified. The link attached has
the ribbed tire at the top and the buffed smooth tire lower down on the page.
I have found tundra tires not constructed like BushWheels to be problematic
to have low enough air pressure in them to take full advantage of the size.
If they have tubes with low air pressure they shear the valve stems off. If they
don't have tubes and low air pressure, they spin on the rims and leak when
they spin. BushWheels have a tire stem in the sidewall and a tube built into
the tire so if it spins on the wheel there is no leaking or damage to anything.
FWIW
Jason
http://www.desser.com/store/products/21%7B47%7D800%252d6-4-PLY-AERO-CLASSIC-TL%7B47%7DTT-LSA-TUNDRA-TIRE.html
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422889#422889
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| Subject: | Re: Uncoordinated flight help! |
The way most rudders are constructed on Kolbs is the "ribs" are bent at 90 degrees
at the ends and then riveted to the trailing edge of the rudder. When I was
messing around with the trim tab on my MKIII, I drilled into the 90 degree
bent part and not the trailing edge of the rudder. I also used a couple of #3
screws with nylock nuts to attach it as they required a smaller hole than 1/8
rivets and I could remove it and bend it or make it longer or shorter and put
it back on without having to drill the rivets out.
FWIW
Jason
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| From: | "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Uncoordinated flight help! |
<>
A lot easier to use velcro, cut until shaped and satisfied and then rivet.
Pat
FWIW
-----Original Message-----
From: Jason Omelchuck
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2014 5:01 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Uncoordinated flight help!
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| From: | "kolbaircraft" <customersupport(at)tnkolbaircraft.com> |
This covering system is taking over the Homer Kolb Enthusiast
Click this link below
http://www.stewartsystems.aero/default.aspx
Travis
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Covering |
| From: | "kolbaircraft" <customersupport(at)tnkolbaircraft.com> |
Well times change . You know just the way it is
Travis
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| Subject: | Kolb On Face Book |
| From: | "kolbaircraft" <customersupport(at)tnkolbaircraft.com> |
Hi everyone I want to let you all know that Kolb has an awesome Face Book Group
that is growing fast.
Please send us a request to join and we will add you.
Travis
Kolb Co.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=423073#423073
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb On Face Book |
| From: | kinne russ <russk50(at)gmail.com> |
Trav
Pls put me on the Face Book Group
Thanx
Russ
On May 9, 2014, at 12:59 PM, kolbaircraft wrote:
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> Hi everyone I want to let you all know that Kolb has an awesome Face Book Group
that is growing fast.
> Please send us a request to join and we will add you.
>
> Travis
> Kolb Co.
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| Subject: | Kolb On Face Book |
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| From: | chris davis <capedavis(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Kolb On Face Book |
Travis ,Please ad me to the Facebook list . thank u Chris=0A=0A-=0AChris
Davis=0AKXP 503 492 hrs=0AGlider Pilot=0ADisabled from crash building Firef
ly=0AOn Friday, May 9, 2014 3:31 PM, undoctor wrote:=0A
=0AHi Travis,=0A>=0A>=0A>Add my name to the FB group=0A>=0A>=0A>Thanks=0A>D
ave Kulp=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone
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5/09/2014 12:59 PM (GMT-05:00) =0A>To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com =0A>Subjec
olbaircraft" =0A>=0A>Hi everyone I want
to let you all know that Kolb has an awesome Face Book Group that is growi
ng fast.=0A>Please send us a request to join and we will add you.=0A>=0A>Tr
avis =0A>Kolb Co.=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>Read this topic online here:=0A>=0A>ht
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| From: | gliderx5(at)comcast.net |
| Subject: | Re: Kolb Covering |
Stewarts is a great product, but if you don't need a certified system latex is
always an option. I've collected some latex information on my new website. It's
still a work in progress, but there is some good info there that might be useful
including links to the EAA Latex Paint webinar and to the the slides.
http://wienerdogaero.com/Latex.php
Malcolm Morrison
----- Original Message -----
From: "kolbaircraft" <customersupport(at)tnkolbaircraft.com>
Sent: Friday, May 9, 2014 12:50:32 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb Covering
This covering system is taking over the Homer Kolb Enthusiast
Click this link below
http://www.stewartsystems.aero/default.aspx
Travis
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb On Face Book |
| From: | Brad Nation <nationcap(at)comcast.net> |
Add me to the Kolb group please.
On May 9, 2014, at 10:59 , kolbaircraft wrote:
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> Hi everyone I want to let you all know that Kolb has an awesome Face Book Group
that is growing fast.
> Please send us a request to join and we will add you.
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> Travis
> Kolb Co.
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb On Face Book |
| From: | K I <wrk2win4u(at)msn.com> |
Greetings Kolb builders and flyers,
I would love to be on the Facebook site.
Thank you,
Kurt
Sent from my iPhone
> On May 9, 2014, at 16:14, "Brad Nation" wrote:
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> Add me to the Kolb group please.
>> On May 9, 2014, at 10:59 , kolbaircraft
wrote:
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>> Hi everyone I want to let you all know that Kolb has an awesome Face Book Group
that is growing fast.
>> Please send us a request to join and we will add you.
>>
>> Travis
>> Kolb Co.
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| From: | gliderx5(at)comcast.net |
| Subject: | Re: Kolb On Face Book |
Sign me up please
Malcolm
----- Original Message -----
From: "kolbaircraft" <customersupport(at)tnkolbaircraft.com>
Sent: Friday, May 9, 2014 12:59:56 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb On Face Book
Hi everyone I want to let you all know that Kolb has an awesome Face Book Group
that is growing fast.
Please send us a request to join and we will add you.
Travis
Kolb Co.
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=423073#423073
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| From: | GARY JINDRA <gajindra(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Kolb Covering |
-I used Stewarts covering and loved it. Water borne paints were tuff to g
et to flash off in high humidity, but did end up with a nice finish. Did al
l my gluing and covering in the house during the winter months. Never turne
d off the furnace, glues are none toxic and are harmless if you get it on y
ourself. Not so harmless with the wife when it got on the carpet. This is 3
rd year flying and still looks as nice as when finished.=0AGary Jindra=0AMa
rk 3- 912ul-- 225 hours=0A =0A=0A________________________________=0A
From: kolbaircraft <customersupport(at)tnkolbaircraft.com>=0ATo: kolb-list@mat
ronics.com =0ASent: Friday, May 9, 2014 12:50 PM=0ASubject: Kolb-List: Kolb
ersupport(at)tnkolbaircraft.com>=0A=0AThis covering- system is taking over t
he Homer- Kolb Enthusiast =0A=0AClick this link- below =0A=0A- http:
//www.stewartsystems.aero/default.aspx=0A- - =0A=0ATravis=0A=0A=0A=0A
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| From: | "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Kolb On Face Book |
Hi Travis. do we have to put up with all the rest of the junk on face Book
if we join? Pat
-----Original Message-----
From: kolbaircraft
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 5:59 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb On Face Book
Hi everyone I want to let you all know that Kolb has an awesome Face Book
Group that is growing fast.
Please send us a request to join and we will add you.
Travis
Kolb Co.
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=423073#423073
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| From: | Dennis Rowe <rowedenny(at)windstream.net> |
I'm in Lancaster for the weekend as my daughter is in a competition here and was
wondering if there are any Kolbers nearby to kick tires with?
Dennis "Skid" Rowe
Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb On Face Book |
| From: | Frank <frank.goodnight(at)att.net> |
Travis,
Sign me for facebook please.
Don't know use it--Hope I'm not
too old to learn.
Frank
Sent from my iPhone
On May 9, 2014, at 11:59 AM, "kolbaircraft"
wrote:
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> Hi everyone I want to let you all know that Kolb has an awesome Face Book Group
that is growing fast.
> Please send us a request to join and we will add you.
>
> Travis
> Kolb Co.
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb On Face Book |
| From: | Duane Ransdell <radiobluebook(at)gmail.com> |
please add me
On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 11:59 AM, kolbaircraft <
customersupport(at)tnkolbaircraft.com> wrote:
> customersupport(at)tnkolbaircraft.com>
>
> Hi everyone I want to let you all know that Kolb has an awesome Face Book
> Group that is growing fast.
> Please send us a request to join and we will add you.
>
> Travis
> Kolb Co.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=423073#423073
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| From: | WhiskeyVictor36(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Lancaster PA |
Dennis,
Try Smoketown Airport S37, Smoketown, Pa. Very close to Lancaster. UL
friendly.
Bill Varnes
Original Kolb FireStar
Audubon NJ
Do Not Archive
In a message dated 5/10/2014 12:28:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
rowedenny(at)windstream.net writes:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Dennis Rowe
I'm in Lancaster for the weekend as my daughter is in a competition here
and was wondering if there are any Kolbers nearby to kick tires with?
Dennis "Skid" Rowe
Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA
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| From: | "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
Hi All,
out of contact for a couple of days due to house move. Pat
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| From: | "George Bearden" <gab16(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | RE: Kolb-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 05/12/14 |
Pat Ladd: "Oh for crying out loud. ITS A JOKE"
Pat and Rick Girard, we live in a time of great tension between political
poles. The social scientists have said that never since before the civil war
has the tension been so great.
Things that seem funny to you may truly bug someone else. It isn't that
people can't take being 'bugged' about something, the deal is they want
equal time to set the record straight- or more even, or equal time or
whatever. Then we are off and running...
Political statements also create division between us. We just don't need
that.
> I am sorry that irony/humour does not travel well on the net.
I could give you many examples of schisms created because one guy thought
things were funny but ticked off others who had strong feelings about the
topic. But I won't because it would be 'political'.
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb On Face Book |
| From: | "pipercolt" <bob.pipercolt(at)yahoo.com> |
Hi Travis, please add me also.
Bob
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| From: | Dennis Rowe <rowedenny(at)windstream.net> |
| Subject: | Fwd: fly in flyer attached |
Come one come all!
Dennis "Skid" Rowe
Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA
Begin forwarded message:
> From: <flyingjester(at)windstream.net>
> Date: May 13, 2014 at 8:03:44 AM EDT
> To: "airnoker41(at)verizon.net" , aj , "DRMlll(at)aol.com" , mark
, Jan Morcheid , Mixie , "mmorri
son123(at)comcast.net" , Mark Henck , Dennis Rowe , Dan Trimble , "Rearick, Donald Keith" , James Ful
mer , Jeff Balles , John Tevelon
is , "joe15747(at)verizon.net"
> Subject: fly in flyer attached
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| From: | gliderx5(at)comcast.net |
| Subject: | Re: Fwd: fly in flyer attached |
I'll be there. I've made the first two and it was a lot of fun. There are some photos here: http://wienerdogaero.com/WesternPA_UL.php
Malcolm Morrison
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Rowe" <rowedenny(at)windstream.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 9:08:37 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Fwd: fly in flyer attached
Come one come all!
Dennis "Skid" Rowe
Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA
Begin forwarded message:
From: < flyingjester(at)windstream.net >
Date: May 13, 2014 at 8:03:44 AM EDT
Subject: fly in flyer attached
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb On Face Book |
| From: | "Larlaeb" <larlaeb(at)gmail.com> |
Add me too please.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=423303#423303
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| From: | Dennis Rowe <rowedenny(at)windstream.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Kolb On Face Book |
Guys, i may be wrong but to get on the Kolb Facebook group you need to join facebook
yourself, than search for the Kolb Aircraft group and join.
I don't think its something Travis has to add you too.
Again, correct me if I'm wrong.
Dennis "Skid" Rowe
Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb On Face Book |
| From: | Robert Laird <rlaird(at)cavediver.com> |
There are 3 "Kolb Aircraft" entries in Facebook .....
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I'm not sure if any of these are the "official" one. Maybe Travis can tell
us?
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| From: | "Stuart Harner" <stuart(at)harnerfarm.net> |
| Subject: | aileron gap seal |
OK, one more question about wings and ailerons and painting.
If you used the fabric method of installing the gap seal, did you put the
aileron on the wing and install the gap seal prior to paining?
If you paint first (meaning if you paint the ailerons and wings before final
assembly, how do you get the fabric gap seal in place and painted to match?
I am seriously considering just painting mine prior to assembly as the paint
scheme will allow for easy alignment of the paint lines. Then just using
the book binding tape for the gap seal.
I am open to any tales of woe or success using either method of gap seal.
Thanks,
Stuart
Still dreaming about the far off day when I may actually get to paint my
Firefly.
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| From: | "Stuart Harner" <stuart(at)harnerfarm.net> |
| Subject: | wing painting question |
For those of you who carried your paint scheme from the wings onto the
ailerons, did you assemble the wing and aileron before you painted or after?
If you painted them separately, what kind of steps did you take to make sure
the paint lined up from surface to surface?
If you assembled them before painting, how did you mask everything off to
assure no overspray?
Thanks,
Stuart
Still working on tail feathers. Sheesh, that is time consuming, and
discouraging.
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| Subject: | Re: aileron gap seal |
| From: | "t41pilot" <t41pilot(at)frontier.com> |
just started my 3rd season using the book binding tape. No deterioration showing
up yet. My plane is hangared though. The tape is cheap and easy to install.
As far as carrying your paint trim from wing through your ailerons, paint your
base color first on both items. Then after the required drying time temporarily
attach the hinges to the wing or the aileron using a few sheet metal screws.
Your holes should have been drilled already at this point. Attach the aileron
to the wing across some horses or other suitable surface large enough to accommodate
the width of both making sure not to damage your base coat of paint.
Lay out your trim tape as necessary with the aileron in a neutral position. Flip
assembly over(with some help) and trim the other side if necessary. Disassemble,
finish masking with paper and paint wing and aileron separately. It's not
difficult but is time consuming. Polytone paint is very forgiving. Paint
your parts horizontally as much as possible and the paint will nicely lay out
if you have your gun set right. I had never painted anything ever before and I
was very satisfied with the result when I was done. If you are using Polytone,
just follow the book and everything will be fine.
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2011 Firefly
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| From: | WhiskeyVictor36(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: aileron gap seal |
In a message dated 5/15/2014 4:23:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
t41pilot(at)frontier.com writes:
I had never painted anything ever before and I was very satisfied with the
result when I was done. If you are using Polytone, just follow the book
and everything will be fine.
Gregg,
That is a beautiful paint design and a beautiful piece of workmanship.
Congrats!
Bill Varnes
Original Kolb FireStar
Audubon NJ
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| From: | Dennis Rowe <rowedenny(at)windstream.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Kolb On Face Book |
Right now the FB group simply called Kolb has 98 members. I don't think it's
either of the three you show here.
Dennis "Skid" Rowe
Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA
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| From: | Tony Malins <malins888(at)gmail.com> |
I've been looking at Puddle Jumper amphib floats for my M3X. Anybody got
any experience or better ideas?
Tony (Australia)
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| Subject: | Re: Floats Anyone? |
| From: | "Ducati SS" <hiwingflyer6219(at)yahoo.com> |
Two years ago I helped a chapter member install them on a Sky Ranger. We had a
few small issues but overall they were cleverly and well made. As I remember it
took the two of us about 1 - 1 1/2 weeks of working mornings to install them.
We chained a pulley to an overhead beam and used an ATV winch to raise the
entire airplane. We then used various blocking to support the airplane and floats,
the winch allowed us to make adjustments in blocking height and angle as
needed.
I believe he is satisfied with the performance although climb and speed were
drastically reduced, this is a 100 hp airplane. Also all landing gear suspension
other than tire flex ( on the mains ) is lost so rough field operations are
not really an option.
The owner has a second larger faster land plane so the float compromises on
the Sky Ranger are not much of a handicap.
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
Russ K, I use 16 amp AGM or SLA batteries to fire up my 912ULS. Also keep
the battery on a small solar charger/regulator. Last year the MKIII sat in
the hanger for more than a 4 month period. Fired right up when I got back
home from my land trip. I'd have to go over to the airstrip to find out
what make and model I am using now.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
List
I'm looking for a battery for an Xtra. Was some discussion in the archives
but I can't find it Any suggestions please?
Russ K
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Kolb Historical Photo |
On the way to Oshkosh 2003, the long way from Alabama.
John Williamson took this photo as we flew from Sault Saint Marie, MI, to
Iron Mountain, MI, then south to Oshkosh.
This is Crisp Point Lighthouse.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
Russ K/Kolbers:
I understand the "new age" batteries are lighter than AGM and SLA batteries,
but the price difference is not worth the weight savings to me.
My MKIII started flying with lead acid batteries from Wal-Mart. Made my
first flight to Alaska with one in 1994. Was glad to get the SLA and AGM
batteries that work better and do not have the acid hazard to contend with.
Sulfuric acid will eat through paint, dope, epoxy chromate primer, aluminum
and 4130 steel. My MKIII knows.
Kolbs don't have a problem carrying a little extra weight. If I was going
to be building a Part 103 ultralight to make the 254 lb weight limit, I'd go
with the lithium ion battery or a pull starter.
My opinion only.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
As I recall, someone mentioned a lightweight battery that worked as well as
those 12-pound ones.
Anyone have that info?
Russ K
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| From: | DAquaNut(at)aol.com |
group,
I was cleaning my 447 air filter last night with the K&N cleaner
which is pretty strong. Instructions say to spray and leave it on for ten
minutes and rinse it off. Well I went to bed and forgot about it. It cleaned
up good and looks fine, but i am concerned the cotton may come apart. anyone
ever leave the cleaner on that long? Im thinking about ordering a new one
from leaf!
Ed Diebel ( ff #62)
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
Ed D/Kolbers:
I think the instructions are probably insuring you leave the cleaner on for
a minimum of 10 minutes. If it was mine, I'd rinse it off, dry it out, oil
it up, and use it. Check it periodically to insure its integrity.
I bought a bottle of that spray cleaner 30 years ago. Was expensive. Only
one I ever bought. Since then I have used gasoline to clean the filters,
air dry, re-oil, and go fly.
Not recommending anyone do as I do, but it works for me.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
I was cleaning my 447 air filter last night with the K&N cleaner which
is pretty strong. Instructions say to spray and leave it on for ten minutes
and rinse it off. Well I went to bed and forgot about it. It cleaned up
good and looks fine, but i am concerned the cotton may come apart. anyone
ever leave the cleaner on that long? Im thinking about ordering a new one
from leaf!
Ed Diebel ( ff #62)
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| From: | "Ducati SS" <hiwingflyer6219(at)yahoo.com> |
You may want to check out one of the new lithium batteries, they are still more
expensive than lead acid batteries but the price has come way down. Incredible
performance for very light weight. I have a 3.5 lb lithium in my 1.5l Mazda
2 - 4.5lb. in a 2.0l Mazda 3 and 1.25lb. in both a Honda 230cc 4 stroke dirt bike
and a 250cc street bike. They work great, take up very little space and have
almost no loss during storage.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=423400#423400
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| From: | "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
I got one of the Shorai Lithium Iron batteries this last winter and put it in the
MKIII to spin over a 582. Pricey, 14 amp hour, works great, weighs 2 pounds.
But if you ever let it completely discharge, it's toast. I have an electrical
cut off switch on mine just to keep it from bleeding down by any random current
drains, or me forgetting to turn off the radio. Will let you know in a couple
years if this battery was a good idea or not.
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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
My soul shall be joyful in the LORD; It shall rejoice in His salvation. Psalm 35:9
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| From: | "b young" <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com> |
I got one of the Shorai Lithium Iron batteries this last winter and put it
in the MKIII to spin over a 582. Pricey, 14 amp hour, works great, weighs 2
pounds. But if you ever let it completely discharge, it's toast.
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even a lead acid battery wont come back fully if let go below 11.8......
not completely toast, but not completely good either.
boyd young
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Historical Photo |
| From: | "Jimmy Young" <jdy100(at)comcast.net> |
John,
This photo reminds me of all the great photos of the U.S. John W. took from the
Kolbra. They used to be available on the net but have since disappeared with
his passing, or I just can't find them anymore. One I remember that really stood
out to me was the photo of the Manhattan skyline while he was flying down the
Hudson River. I'd love to spend a full week of evenings looking at all of them
again.
Jimmy Young
Houston TX
Kolb Kolbra N408CP
Zenith 750 N75ZX
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=423424#423424
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| From: | Malcolm Brubaker <brubakermal(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re:kolb Historical Photo Quiz |
any one know who the pilot of the first kolb is in this slide show ?=0A=0A
-and the pilot of the second kolb factory plane ?=0A=0AMalcolm Brubaker -
In my airplane=0A=0AMalcolm & Jeanne Brubaker =0AMichigan Sport Pilot Repa
ir =0A =0A Malcolm Brubaker - In my airplane =0AView on youtu.be Preview
by Yahoo =0A-=0Ahttp://michigansportpilotrepair.com=0ALSRM-A, PPC, WS
=0AGreat Sails - Sailmaker =0Afor Ultralight & Light Sport=0A(989)513-3022
=0A-=0A-=0A-=0A-=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From:
Jimmy Young =0ATo: kolb-list(at)matronics.com =0ASent: Sun
day, May 18, 2014 8:52 PM=0ASubject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb Historical Photo
t>=0A=0AJohn, =0AThis photo reminds me of all the great photos of the U.S.
John W. took from the Kolbra. They used to be available on the net but have
since disappeared with his passing, or I just can't find them anymore. One
I remember that really stood out to me was the photo of the Manhattan skyl
ine while he was flying down the Hudson River. I'd love to spend a full wee
k of evenings looking at all of them again. =0A=0AJimmy Young=0AHouston TX
=0AKolb Kolbra N408CP=0AZenith 750 N75ZX=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic onli
ne here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=423424#423424
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re:kolb Historical Photo Quiz |
That's Dennis Souder in the Factory Firestar, 1985.
I don't know the first gentleman in the MKII.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
any one know who the pilot of the first kolb is in this slide show ?
and the pilot of the second kolb factory plane ?
Malcolm Brubaker - In my airplane <http://youtu.be/Ks-3PIImL0w>
Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Kolb Historical Photo |
John W's web site remained up for a short time after his death. Am guessing
his family took down the web site. Was disappointed when that happened.
His admirers lost a great source of information about flying and the flights
that John W did in the short time he flew his Kolbra.
Hardly a day goes by that I don't think of John W. I miss our flying days
together. 25 May will be six years since he died.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
John,
This photo reminds me of all the great photos of the U.S. John W. took from
the Kolbra. They used to be available on the net but have since disappeared
with his passing, or I just can't find them anymore. One I remember that
really stood out to me was the photo of the Manhattan skyline while he was
flying down the Hudson River. I'd love to spend a full week of evenings
looking at all of them again.
Jimmy Young
Houston TX
Kolb Kolbra N408CP
Zenith 750 N75ZX
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| From: | Malcolm Brubaker <brubakermal(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re:kolb Historical Photo Quiz |
I had the order wrong-- the 3rd pic of a kolb was a factory built plane
i bought from homer after a sun &- fun show- back in the 90's it was m
y second plane. the first pic and 3rd pic is me of- course .- my budy j
ust got a mk11 in real nice shape last week- from michigan =0A=0A-Malco
lm Brubaker - In my airplane=0A=0A =0A Malcolm Brubaker - In my airplane
=0AView on youtu.be Preview by Yahoo =0A-=0AMalcolm & Jeanne Brubaker
=0AMichigan Sport Pilot Repair =0Ahttp://michigansportpilotrepair.com=0ALSR
M-A, PPC, WS=0AGreat Sails - Sailmaker =0Afor Ultralight & Light Sport=0A(9
89)513-3022=0A-=0A-=0A-=0A-=0A=0A=0A_______________________________
_=0A From: John Hauck <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>=0ATo: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
=0ASent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 10:47 PM=0ASubject: RE: Kolb-List: Re:kolb Hi
storical Photo Quiz =0A =0A=0A=0AThat's Dennis Souder in the Factory Firest
ar, 1985.=0A-=0AI don't know the first gentleman in the MKII.=0A-=0Ajoh
n h=0AmkIII=0ATitus, Alabama=0A-=0A-=0A-=0Aany one know who the pilot
of the first kolb is in this slide show ?=0A-and the pilot of the second
kolb factory plane ?=0AMalcolm Brubaker - In my airplane=0A=0AMalcolm & Je
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| From: | Malcolm Brubaker <brubakermal(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Lancaster PA |
we have a friend kinda looking for- sling shot or maybe a cobra here in M
ichigan- off list please- =0A=0A-=0AMalcolm & Jeanne Brubaker =0AMich
igan Sport Pilot Repair =0Ahttp://michigansportpilotrepair.com=0ALSRM-A, PP
C, WS=0AGreat Sails - Sailmaker =0Afor Ultralight & Light Sport=0A(989)513-
3022=0A-=0A-=0A-=0A-=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A Fr
om: Dennis Rowe =0ATo: "kolb-list(at)matronics.com"
=0ASent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 4:30 PM=0ASubject
: Re: Kolb-List: Lancaster PA=0A =0A=0A=0AMet up with Luray Weachter, at Sm
okeyown-"Former Mk2 and Slingshot owner builder.=0ANice to catch up with
old friends.=0ADennis "Skid" Rowe=0AMk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA=0A=0A=0A=0A
On May 10, 2014, at 3:29 PM, WhiskeyVictor36(at)aol.com wrote:=0A=0A=0ADennis,
=0A>-=0A>Try Smoketown Airport S37, Smoketown, Pa.- Very close to =0ALa
ncaster.- UL friendly.=0A>-=0A>Bill =0AVarnes=0A>Original Kolb FireStar
=0A>Audubon NJ=0A>Do Not =0AArchive=0A>-=0A>In a message dated 5/10/2014
12:28:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rowedenny(at)windstream.net writes:=0A>--
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| From: | "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
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| From: | Robert <rstumpy(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | HIrth 2703 issues |
Hello all,
Sold my Firestar last July, wish I hadn=99t, but with one
Taylorcraft flying and another in recovery I didn=99t need my own
Air Farce...
That being said, I always appreciated the knowledge base here. I know
some folks have flown Hirth powerplants on their Kolbs. My brother
picked up a Challenger with a Kolb 2703 on it...great compression, no
spark though. it has the dual electronic ignition. Pulled the flywheel
and cleaned things up. I am not familiar with the electronic ignition
module/coils on the Hirth...wish it was a Rotax.
So...I do know they had igntion problems. The modules/coils have been
airframe mounted instead of engine-mounted, which is good. Anybody know
the proper procedure for testing these things without buggering them?
Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated too!
Thanks much,
Stumpy, recovering Kolb jockey
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| From: | Brad Nation <nationcap(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Xtra Control Problems |
I=92m having some steering and control problems with my Xtra. I haven=92t
flown it yet as I have been dealing with various issues. However, a
local IP who has quite a lot of time in tail draggers was kind enough to
take it for a test flight today. Dennis Kirby gave him a familiarization
ride in his MKIII before the flight. I have had problems with the
steering before but thought it was due to loose tail wheel springs which
have been adjusted. The last time I did a high speed taxi test I had a
difficult time keeping it going straight and ran off the side of the
runway. However, during todays attempt the IP had the same issues, " I
went around the pattern a couple times with Dennis early this morning
and felt comfortable enough to take yours out to try a couple touch and
goes, but I couldn't keep yours on the runway during the takeoff roll.
Three times off to the left and into the dirt, once it even started
rolling uncontrollably left after lift-off. I didn't hit anything and
the plane is undamaged but it wasn't for lack of trying. There are
serious directional-control issues with the bird.=94
There is a trim tab on the rudder that is almost at 90 degrees and
another on the elevator that is about the same. There is also a trim tab
on the right aileron.
It seems that the wheels must be mis-alined which would explain the
tracking issue. However, I=92m at a loss as the cause of the roll
problems, perhaps a wing-incidence problem.
I=92m getting really tired of it sitting in the hanger and not in the
air!
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Brad Nation
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=93Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We
didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought
for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we
will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's
children what it was once like in the United States where men were
free.=94
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| From: | <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
Kolbers:
Bruce asked me to post this for him. He has lost the ability to send emails to
the Kolb List.
The engine is a 912uls. The aircraft is practically new, despite being built in
2003. Bruce flew with me out to Monument Valley and the Rock House in 2009.
That says a lot for any Kolb.
john h
mkIII
Columbia, Missouri
From: B Chaisson [mailto:b-chaisson(at)hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 5:52 PM
Subject: Mark III Classic
Hey John,
Hope ya'll have a good time at Larry's. Tell everyone hello for me and miss coming
up for the friendship.
Had a little minny stroke the other day and went to dr to get checked out. Did
heart cath and found lots of blockage said couldn't repair at this time. Go figure.
Two other opinions same answer. Anyway selling plane due to health.
2003 kit built and registered in 2006 as experimental light sport aircraft. Has
Rotax 912. 196 tt aircraft and engine. They can email me for other info and pics.
Asking $23,000 obo. You can put my e-mail on the list also. They can e-mail
for phone number to keep crazies away. b-chaisson(at)hotmail.com lol Thanks John,
have fun and be careful.
Bruce Chaisson
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| Subject: | Re: Xtra Control Problems |
| From: | B Young <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com> |
Trim tabs at 90 deg.... I don't understand,, tab deflected that far should
stall and not work as needed.. or intended.. what is your toe in / out
measurements? Duo you know how to get accurate measurements?
Boyd
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| Subject: | Re: Xtra Control Problems |
| From: | "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
Do the basics first: are the wings at the same angle of incidence to each other?
Is one of them more forward compared to the other one, is one of them swept
back?
Is the engine at the right thrust angle and aligned with the center line of the
airplane?
If the answer to all of those questions is yes, it ought to be very flyable, but
out of trim. If I remember right, (HAH) with a 582, and no trim tabs, it will
want to roll left and yaw right, and with a 912 it is exactly the opposite.
Or maybe I've got that backwards... Anyway, that is normal, and easily compensated
for during the test flights.
Imagine it being a toy glider and you gently toss it straight ahead - will it continue
to go straight ahead, or is it going to immediately turn or roll? You
determine all those things by checking the alignment and angle of the various
flying surfaces. Checking for uncommanded roll is as easy as taking a couple of
long pieces of pvc pipe and strapping them snugly to the underside of each wing,
then stand off to one side and look at it - if the pipes are not parallel,
you will have a tendency to roll toward the side that has the down pointed pipe.
As far as not wanting to stay on the runway - are the wheels aligned with each
other and with the center line of the airplane? If they are not, you might be
able to deal with it on a grass strip, but not on asphalt, it will be very squirrely.
I would take the trim tabs off of it, or at least bend them in line with the control
surface. A trim tab at 90 degrees to the control surface is non-functional,
and probably very counterproductive; you have no idea what it might do or
what your results might be, but they would probably not be good. I would not consider
flying an airplane with a trim tab at 90 degrees. All that tells you is
that someone else had major trim problems with it, and didn't know what he was
doing as he started trying to fix it, because a trim tab at 90 degrees is nothing
but a spoiler. And since it is a spoiler mounted to a movable surface,
all bets are off.
In any event, I would not consider flying it again until you are satisfied that
all the control and flying surfaces are aligned properly. Also - and don't take
this wrong, get a couple of friends who have homebuilt experience or have built
flying model airplanes to oversee your measurements. It is easy to overlook
simple things. Someone with a good eye for spotting angles and alignments or
something that just doesn't look right is invaluable at a time like this.
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| From: | "b young" <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Xtra Control Problems |
Richard I think you got it all right.
I would add to check the alignment of the landing gear, get a straight
edge (board, pipe, angle, etc.) something that you can mount to the back of
each wheel at axel height,,,, then using a carpenter square, align one
side with the strait edge and measure to the front and back of the rims side
along the second side of the square, I dont know what type of landing
gear legs you have or how flexible or ridged they are, so my rule of
thumb is,,,, the stiffer the gear legs are the closer to neutral the
wheels should be,,, with more spring in the gear you may need a bit more
toe in. what you need when you are finished is wheels that are straight
when you are rolling forward at speed. and that is something you learn by
feel/ trial and error,,, unless someone with the same gear has done the
work and will share with you. a while back I determined that I had too
much toe in and took it out to neutral. big mistake,,, it was worse than
when I started,,, had to end up putting some back in to make it track
straight. I have the solid tapered steel legs that kolb sold for a while
and ended up needing 0.6 deg toe in per side to make it roll smoothly....
different gear, different toe in. when you get it right it will surprise
you how easy it is to track down the runway.
check the archives,, I had posted some time ago, in fairly good detail,
how I got my gear tracking good.
boyd young
>>>>>>>>>>>>
In any event, I would not consider flying it again until you are satisfied
that all the control and flying surfaces are aligned properly. Also - and
don't take this wrong, get a couple of friends who have homebuilt experience
or have built flying model airplanes to oversee your measurements. It is
easy to overlook simple things. Someone with a good eye for spotting angles
and alignments or something that just doesn't look right is invaluable at a
time like this.
--------
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| From: | GARY JINDRA <gajindra(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Xtra Control Problems |
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| From: | Brad Nation <nationcap(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Xtra Control Problems |
That seems to be the consensus of everyone who looks at the tabs, more
drag than anything else. As for the toe in/out, no, not yet.
Suggestions?
Brad
On May 22, 2014, at 21:43 , B Young wrote:
> Trim tabs at 90 deg.... I don't understand,, tab deflected that far
should stall and not work as needed.. or intended.. what is your toe
in / out measurements? Duo you know how to get accurate measurements?
>
> Boyd
>
>
>
>
Brad
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didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought
for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we
will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's
children what it was once like in the United States where men were
free.=94
-- President Ronald Reagan
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| From: | Brad Nation <nationcap(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Xtra Control Problems |
The thing is that it seemed to fly just fine when I flew with the
previous owner before I bought it. About a month later after it=92s
annual I then trailered it back to Albuquerque from Plano Texas. So I
don=92t understand how it got to its present condition.
Yellow Bird 1
Brad Nation
MKIII Xtra
N952DK
On May 23, 2014, at 20:41 , GARY JINDRA wrote:
> The tall landing gear from Kolb can be installed on the wrong side.
They are marked R and L. If installed backwards they would mess up
ground roll on asphalt
>
> GaryJindra
> Mark 3C
> 912 80hp
> 215 hrs.
;
>
>
> On Friday, May 23, 2014 2:54 PM, b young
wrote:
>
>
>
> Richard I think you got it all right.
>
> I would add to check the alignment of the landing gear, get a
straight
> edge (board, pipe, angle, etc.) something that you can mount to the
back of
> each wheel at axel height,,,, then using a carpenter square, align
one
> side with the strait edge and measure to the front and back of the
rims side
> along the second side of the square, I don=92t know what type of
landing
> gear legs you have or how flexible or ridged they are, so my rule
of
> thumb is,,,, the stiffer the gear legs are the closer to neutral the
> wheels should be,,, with more spring in the gear you may need a bit
more
> toe in. what you need when you are finished is wheels that are
straight
> when you are rolling forward at speed. and that is something you
learn by
> feel/ trial and error,,, unless someone with the same gear has done
the
> work and will share with you. a while back I determined that I had
too
> much toe in and took it out to neutral. big mistake,,, it was worse
than
> when I started,,, had to end up putting some back in to make it track
> straight. I have the solid tapered steel legs that kolb sold for a
while
> and ended up needing 0.6 deg toe in per side to make it roll
smoothly....
> different gear, different toe in. when you get it right it will
surprise
> you how easy it is to track down the runway.
>
> check the archives,, I had posted some time ago, in fairly good
detail,
> how I got my gear tracking good.
>
> boyd young
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> In any event, I would not consider flying it again until you are
satisfied
> that all the control and flying surfaces are aligned properly. Also -
and
> don't take this wrong, get a couple of friends who have homebuilt
experience
> or have built flying model airplanes to oversee your measurements. It
is
> easy to overlook simple things. Someone with a good eye for spotting
angles
> and alignments or something that just doesn't look right is invaluable
at a
> time like this.
>
> --------
> Richard Pike
>
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| Subject: | Re: Xtra Control Problems |
| From: | JC Gilpin <j.gilpin(at)bigpond.com> |
By chance, did those trim tabs get bent to that ridiculous angle during
trailering??
Bend them straight with the control surface and see what it feels like,
then start adjusting from there.....
JG
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| From: | Dennis Rowe <rowedenny(at)windstream.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Xtra Control Problems |
Bingo John, but I'd bend them back to 15 to 30 degrees instead of going all t
he way straight, probably be in the ball park.
Dennis "Skid" Rowe
Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA
> On May 24, 2014, at 3:50 AM, JC Gilpin wrote:
>
> By chance, did those trim tabs get bent to that ridiculous angle during tr
ailering??
>
> Bend them straight with the control surface and see what it feels like, th
en start adjusting from there.....
>
> JG
>
>
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| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
https://vimeo.com/96347947
password: owyheeflyer
My niece is visiting and is crazy about Kolbs. John normally flies her when
he is here, but since he is coming cross country in his truck its up to me
to give her a flight.
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| From: | Brad Nation <nationcap(at)comcast.net> |
Another nice video. Thanks for sharing. Your part of Oregon sure look
like New Mexico and according to my parents and aunt, who are from
Pendleton, it is
You said at the end that =93it looks like she heated=94. It sure looks
like to me like quite the opposite.
Brad
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children what it was once like in the United States where men were
free.=94
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On May 24, 2014, at 17:24 , Larry Cottrell
wrote:
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> password: owyheeflyer
>
> My niece is visiting and is crazy about Kolbs. John normally flies her
when he is here, but since he is coming cross country in his truck its
up to me to give her a flight.
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| From: | "Andy and Sheila Slinkard" <andysheila(at)eltopia.com> |
Great video of the wild horses! Eagles and horses are so typical of
you! Love it!
Hope to see you next weekend.
Andy and Sheila
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Great video Larry it was touching hearing John Denver sing of flying again
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| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
Great! We were hoping that you would be able to make it.
Larry and Karen
On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 7:58 AM, Andy and Sheila Slinkard <
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> Hope to see you next weekend.
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I have flown this area before, and you may have heard the music before, but
the flight and experience is new. My niece goes home this evening, so we
got in our last flight before she had to leave. Today was actually the best
flying day we have had. The air was smooth as silk, and the visibility was
crystal clear. Somehow we managed to fly each day of her visit, pretty
impressive for this area at this time of the year.
Mici so much enjoys flying. The kind of person that you really enjoy having
in your plane. I normally would not have posted this video since it is a
"rerun", but the air was so clear and sharp that I felt that it was worth
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| From: | "west1m" <west1m(at)hotmail.com> |
Great Videos! It's still hard to imagine Oregon looking like desert.
Keep the videos coming!
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| From: | Dennis Rowe <rowedenny(at)windstream.net> |
What weight gear oil is recommended in rotax E and C boxes? I want to pick some
up on the way home.
Dennis "Skid" Rowe
Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA
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| From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | The end of an era... |
... and a new era begins, for me at least. Last week I sold my Ultrastar,
having put 124.35 hours of flying time on it over 5 years (I didn't fly it
at all last year, life just got in the way). This week I expect to pick up
my new plane, an N-numbered 1992 Fisher 404 biplane that I'm buying from a
close friend. It's been in storage for a few years; hopefully I'll get it
flying in a few weeks. Tomorrow I start working on my BFR if the weather
cooperates; despite all the ultralight flying I've done over the past 10
years it's been even longer since I've logged time in an N-numbered aircraft.
I've had great fun with the Ultrastar but the last season flying it I felt
I was pushing its limits, so it's time to move on. I'll stick around here
for awhile though.
Dana
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| From: | "pipercolt" <bob.pipercolt(at)yahoo.com> |
Looking for Ellery Batchelder, please drop me a line. bob.pipercolt(at)yahoo.com
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| From: | Charlie England <ceengland7(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: The end of an era... |
On 5/27/2014 7:43 PM, Dana Hague wrote:
>
> ... and a new era begins, for me at least. Last week I sold my
> Ultrastar, having put 124.35 hours of flying time on it over 5 years
> (I didn't fly it at all last year, life just got in the way). This
> week I expect to pick up my new plane, an N-numbered 1992 Fisher 404
> biplane that I'm buying from a close friend. It's been in storage for
> a few years; hopefully I'll get it flying in a few weeks. Tomorrow I
> start working on my BFR if the weather cooperates; despite all the
> ultralight flying I've done over the past 10 years it's been even
> longer since I've logged time in an N-numbered aircraft.
>
> I've had great fun with the Ultrastar but the last season flying it I
> felt I was pushing its limits, so it's time to move on. I'll stick
> around here for awhile though.
>
> Dana
> --
> In England, the cops say, 'Halt or I'll say halt again!'
Ya gotta hang around, so I can keep reading the tag lines after your
signature.
Charlie
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| Subject: | Re: E gearbox oil? |
| From: | Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com> |
Dennis, Rotax Two Stroke Operation Manual, Edition 2 Rev 0, page 10-10,
10.2.3 Lubricants b. Gearbox Lubricants "API GL-5 or GL-6, SAE 140 EP or
85W-140 EP".
Rick Girard
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Dennis Rowe wrote:
>
> What weight gear oil is recommended in rotax E and C boxes? I want to pick
> some up on the way home.
>
> Dennis "Skid" Rowe
> Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA
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| From: | "Lanny" <donaho1(at)verizon.net> |
| Subject: | Fw: Selling FSII N598LF for parts |
From: Lanny
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 9:38 AM
Subject: Selling FSII N598LF for parts
After a nose over, upon landing last August. I have decided to sell
my FSII rather then repairing it. There was extensive damage to the
cage and fuselage, slight damage to one wing tip, no other damage. I am
asking $5000.00 For everything. Rotax 503 DCDI with electric starter, 72
hours on the hour meter. Includes the following, three blade Ivo Prop,
BRS 5 VLS 750. Manual brakes, Kuntzelman strobes, dual fuel gauges, and
too many spare parts to list. All blue prints and manuals. Bendix /
King KX99 radio and new Telex noise cancelling headset. Open aluminum
diamond plate trailer large enough to haul the FSII, includes three
spare rims and tires. (over $1000.00 in diamond plate alone).
Sold as is where is. First person that hands me the money, and signs
a sales agreement, owns it. (cash or certified check) Located near
Catawissa, Pa. 17820. E-mail is donaho1(at)verizon.net. Phone is
#570-799-0198 if I don`t answer leave a message. Please only contact me
if you are a serious buyer.
Lastly, It has been GREAT being part of the Kolb community. But as
the song says, =9CYou got to know when to hold them, you got to
know when to fold them=9D. Lanny Fetterman
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| Subject: | Re: exhaust weight |
| From: | "racerjerry" <gki(at)suffolk.lib.ny.us> |
Be careful when thinking of substituting Rotax 2-cycle exhaust parts (dont), as
the darned things are tuned to the engine for proper scavenging of the fuel/air
mixture. To obtain maximum power, the exhaust system length is tuned to bring
the fuel charge into the exhaust pipe and then suck it back into the engine
before the exhaust ports close (reversion pulse). Modification of the exhaust
system usually results in less power and/or unburned fuel blown out the exhaust
and wasted.
Unless I am full of crap :)
--------
Jerry King
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| Subject: | Re: Xtra Control Problems |
| From: | Brad Nation <nationcap(at)comcast.net> |
I understand how to measure the wheel alignment but what I dont understand is
how to change the alignment.
Yellow Bird 1
Brad Nation
MKIII Xtra
N952DK
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Xtra Control Problems |
I use a 6' length of galvanized water pipe that just slips
over the axle. Very easy to bend the axle to get the
results you are looking for.
john h
mkIII
Rock House, Burns Junction, OR
I understand how to measure the wheel alignment but what I
don't understand is how to change the alignment.
Yellow Bird 1
Brad Nation
MKIII Xtra
N952DK
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| Subject: | Re: exhaust weight |
| From: | JC Gilpin <j.gilpin(at)bigpond.com> |
Yep, don't change that exhaust. I tried putting a port in the Rotax
muffler on a 447, to make more noise when I wanted to chase sheep.
Whenever I opened it there was a noticeable loss in power.....
JG
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| Subject: | Re: Xtra Control Problems |
| From: | "racerjerry" <gki(at)suffolk.lib.ny.us> |
> The thing is that it seemed to fly just fine when I flew with the previous owner
before I bought it. About a month later after its annual I then trailered
it back to Albuquerque from Plano Texas. So I dont understand how it got to its
present condition.
Were you flying off a grass field at the time? Wheel alignment is not at all critical
on grass.
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| Subject: | Re: Xtra Control Problems |
| From: | Brad Nation <nationcap(at)comcast.net> |
Grass taxi area, paved runway.
Sent from my iPad
Brad
> On May 31, 2014, at 6:07, "racerjerry" wrote:
>
>
>
>> The thing is that it seemed to fly just fine when I flew with the previous owner
before I bought it. About a month later after its annual I then trailered
it back to Albuquerque from Plano Texas. So I dont understand how it got to its
present condition.
>
>
> Were you flying off a grass field at the time? Wheel alignment is not at all
critical on grass.
>
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> Jerry King
>
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>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=424099#424099
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| From: | william sullivan <williamtsullivan(at)att.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Xtra Control Problems |
I had an odd thought. Did you check to see if the wings have multiple attachment
holes at the front? Are they both in the same hole? Sometimes it's the
simplest things that can screw you up.
Bill Sullivan
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On Sat, 5/31/14, racerjerry wrote:
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Xtra Control Problems
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Saturday, May 31, 2014, 8:07 AM
"racerjerry"
> The thing is that it seemed to fly just fine when I
flew with the previous owner before I bought it. About a
month later after its annual I then trailered it back
to Albuquerque from Plano Texas. So I dont understand
how it got to its present condition.
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=424099#424099
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| Subject: | Re: Xtra Control Problems |
| From: | B Young <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com> |
I bent mine with my son's pipe bender... an exhaust fabrication s shop may
have something,, you need to be able to measure in fractions of deg. It
is touchy as you have to bend past Weber you need and let it spring back to
where you need it.. it takes several trys to find the point where the bend
stays put
On May 30, 2014 7:10 PM, "Brad Nation" wrote:
>
> I understand how to measure the wheel alignment but what I don=99t
> understand is how to change the alignment.
>
> Yellow Bird 1
> Brad Nation
> MKIII Xtra
> N952DK
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| From: | Brad Nation <nationcap(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Xtra Control Problems |
I measured the alignment and the left is 1/8 toe out and the right is
3/8 toe out. I have replaced the right axel as it was bent. I don=92t
know if that has anything to do with the difference in alignment.
Are your landing gear the straight ones or the bent ones, which is what
I have. Bend the landing gear seems a little drastic. I=92ve been told
by an A&P to use shims in the same manner as they do Cessnas.
Brad
On May 31, 2014, at 11:16 , B Young wrote:
> I bent mine with my son's pipe bender... an exhaust fabrication s
shop may have something,, you need to be able to measure in fractions of
deg. It is touchy as you have to bend past Weber you need and let it
spring back to where you need it.. it takes several trys to find the
point where the bend stays put
>
> On May 30, 2014 7:10 PM, "Brad Nation" wrote:
>
> I understand how to measure the wheel alignment but what I don=92t
understand is how to change the alignment.
>
> Yellow Bird 1
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Xtra Control Problems |
I posted a msg recently, how to straighten axles on Kolbs.
Not gear legs though. I straighten gear legs using a
hydraulic press.
Axles are straightened by jacking up the wheel, removing it,
and using a 5/8" ID water pipe, or whatever diameter the
axle is, about 6' long, slip it over the axle until it
bottoms out. Proceed to bend the axle where you want it.
Will have to go a little past where you want it bent to get
the job done. It is very easy to do, costs nothing, and one
can bend the axle any one of 360 degrees.
Toe in/toe out, bend the axle. Camber, bend the axle.
Straight axles on trucks have been bent to align for years.
Nothing new here. ;-)
john h
mkIII
Rock House, near Burns Junction, Oregon
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
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Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 7:59 PM
Subject: Fwd: Kolb-List: Re: Xtra Control Problems
I measured the alignment and the left is 1/8 toe out and the
right is 3/8 toe out. I have replaced the right axel as it
was bent. I don't know if that has anything to do with the
difference in alignment.
Are your landing gear the straight ones or the bent ones,
which is what I have. Bend the landing gear seems a little
drastic. I've been told by an A&P to use shims in the same
manner as they do Cessnas.
Brad
On May 31, 2014, at 11:16 , B Young
wrote:
I bent mine with my son's pipe bender... an exhaust
fabrication s shop may have something,, you need to be able
to measure in fractions of deg. It is touchy as you have
to bend past Weber you need and let it spring back to where
you need it.. it takes several trys to find the point where
the bend stays put
On May 30, 2014 7:10 PM, "Brad Nation"
wrote:
I understand how to measure the wheel alignment but what I
don't understand is how to change the alignment.
Yellow Bird 1
Brad Nation
MKIII Xtra
N952DK
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| Subject: | Re: Xtra Control Problems |
| From: | Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com> |
Brad, Clearly, the A & P you are talking to knows NOTHING about how Kolb
landing gear are built. The axles on Cessnas are bolted to the landing
gear, hence the shimming recommendation. On both the aluminum and steel
Kolb gear legs are inserted into a tube weldment and a single bolt pins
them in place.
As for bending the axles to bring the wheels into the toe in/out
specification you want, remove the axle from the aircraft and bend it in a
press using the TLAR method until it is where you want it. Kolb fuselages
are built too light to do the bending on the aircraft.
Alternatively, if the error is as small as you have measured, you can
remove the AN 4 bolt the holds the gear leg in its socket, rotate the gear
leg into alignment using the ground rod method specified by Richard Pike
and others, clamp the tubing socket with a large "C" clamp to grasp the leg
so it can't move and drill the hole out to AN 5 or 6. Or you could weld up
the hole on the gear leg, anneal the leg by allowing it to cool very
slowly, grind it back flush with the gear leg and redrill for the AN 4.
As my dear departed Grandma used to say, "there's more than one way to skin
a cat".
No offense to any animal rights activists. :-}
Rick Girard
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 9:30 PM, John Hauck wrote:
> I posted a msg recently, how to straighten axles on Kolbs. Not gear legs
> though. I straighten gear legs using a hydraulic press.
>
>
> Axles are straightened by jacking up the wheel, removing it, and using a
> 5/8" ID water pipe, or whatever diameter the axle is, about 6' long, slip
> it over the axle until it bottoms out. Proceed to bend the axle where
> you want it. Will have to go a little past where you want it bent to get
> the job done. It is very easy to do, costs nothing, and one can bend the
> axle any one of 360 degrees.
>
>
> Toe in/toe out, bend the axle. Camber, bend the axle.
>
>
> Straight axles on trucks have been bent to align for years. Nothing new
> here. ;-)
>
>
> john h
>
> mkIII
>
> Rock House, near Burns Junction, Oregon
>
>
> *From:* owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Brad Nation
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 03, 2014 7:59 PM
> *To:* Kolb-list
> *Subject:* Fwd: Kolb-List: Re: Xtra Control Problems
>
>
> I measured the alignment and the left is 1/8 toe out and the right is 3/8
> toe out. I have replaced the right axel as it was bent. I don=99t
know if
> that has anything to do with the difference in alignment.
>
> Are your landing gear the straight ones or the bent ones, which is what I
> have. Bend the landing gear seems a little drastic. I=99ve been to
ld by an
> A&P to use shims in the same manner as they do Cessnas.
>
>
> Brad
>
>
> On May 31, 2014, at 11:16 , B Young wrote:
>
>
> I bent mine with my son's pipe bender... an exhaust fabrication s shop
> may have something,, you need to be able to measure in fractions of deg.
> It is touchy as you have to bend past Weber you need and let it spring ba
ck
> to where you need it.. it takes several trys to find the point where the
> bend stays put
>
> On May 30, 2014 7:10 PM, "Brad Nation" wrote:
>
>
> I understand how to measure the wheel alignment but what I don=99t
> understand is how to change the alignment.
>
> Yellow Bird 1
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Xtra Control Problems |
Rick G/Kolbers:
Kolb fuselages are not too light to do the bending on the aircraft.
Mine got bent out of alignment on the fuselage, as they got bent back
into alignment on the fuselage.
john h
mkIII
Rock House, Oregon - KISS
As for bending the axles to bring the wheels into the toe in/out
specification you want, remove the axle from the aircraft and bend it in
a press using the TLAR method until it is where you want it. Kolb
fuselages are built too light to do the bending on the aircraft.
As my dear departed Grandma used to say, "there's more than one way to
skin a cat".
No offense to any animal rights activists. :-}
Rick Girard
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 06/04/14 |
| From: | Wilton Ricketts <agramjak(at)gmail.com> |
remove me from the list please
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> From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
> Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Xtra Control Problems
>
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> Rick G/Kolbers:
>
> Kolb fuselages are not too light to do the bending on the aircraft.
>
> Mine got bent out of alignment on the fuselage, as they got bent back
> into alignment on the fuselage.
>
> john h
> mkIII
> Rock House, Oregon - KISS
>
> As for bending the axles to bring the wheels into the toe in/out
> specification you want, remove the axle from the aircraft and bend it in
> a press using the TLAR method until it is where you want it. Kolb
> fuselages are built too light to do the bending on the aircraft.
> As my dear departed Grandma used to say, "there's more than one way to
> skin a cat".
> No offense to any animal rights activists. :-}
>
> Rick Girard
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 06/04/14 |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
I am sorry, but you will have to do it yourself.
On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 3:20 AM, Wilton Ricketts wrote:
> remove me from the list please
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>> 1. 05:53 AM - Re: Re: Xtra Control Problems (John Hauck)
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>> From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
>> Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Xtra Control Problems
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>> Rick G/Kolbers:
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>> Kolb fuselages are not too light to do the bending on the aircraft.
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>> Mine got bent out of alignment on the fuselage, as they got bent back
>> into alignment on the fuselage.
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>> john h
>> mkIII
>> Rock House, Oregon - KISS
>>
>> As for bending the axles to bring the wheels into the toe in/out
>> specification you want, remove the axle from the aircraft and bend it in
>> a press using the TLAR method until it is where you want it. Kolb
>> fuselages are built too light to do the bending on the aircraft.
>> As my dear departed Grandma used to say, "there's more than one way to
>> skin a cat".
>> No offense to any animal rights activists. :-}
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| Subject: | Mark III Extra for sale |
| From: | james.vanlaak(at)gmail.com |
I have to put my beautiful Xtra for sale because it just does not fit the
towered field where I am based. Email for pics or check out ad on
Barnstormers.
Jim
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Hullo!
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| From: | kinne russ <russk50(at)gmail.com> |
List
FWIW I've flown Jim VanLaak's Xtra and it is a great aircraft. Very well made
and well equipped -- even has a TXP. So you can fly anywhere in this bird, and
a TXP is most welcome if you ever get into trouble or real bad weather
Russ K
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| From: | "b young" <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Mark III Extra for sale |
I have to put my beautiful Xtra for sale because it just does not fit the t
owered field where I am based. Email for pics or check out ad on Barnstorm
ers.
Jim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just what is there about your plane that does not fit the
towered field? and is there another field within a short distance that yo
u would be a better fit. boyd y
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| Subject: | Re: Mark III Extra for sale |
| From: | james.vanlaak(at)gmail.com |
The plane is too slow to mix with the traffic. I have been based here for
12 years and have a nice hangar that is only 30 minutes from the house.
Moving it somewhere else an hour or more away would result in my never
flying it because I simply do not have time to do that. When I retire (5
years or so) I will get another and base in on a nice small field, but this
is not the time.
On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 10:01 AM, b young wrote:
> I have to put my beautiful Xtra for sale because it just does not fit
> the towered field where I am based. Email for pics or check out ad on
> Barnstormers.
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> Jim
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| From: | Malcolm Brubaker <brubakermal(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Mark III Extra for sale |
towered fields are not as fun, - yesterday we had a blast doing touch and
goes at our field NOT the kinda flying you can do at a towered field for s
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| Subject: | Re: Xtra Control Problems |
| From: | "racerjerry" <gki(at)suffolk.lib.ny.us> |
ANOTHER THOUGHT ON ALIGNMENT
When you get around to actually adjusting camber / toe, re-drilling holes, etc;
please remember that WEIGHT makes a difference. If you make alignment corrections
with wings off or folded, you may regret it.
Before making any corrections, you need the airplane assembled in normal flying
configuration WITH PILOT IN SEAT. Get a helper to plant his but in the aircraft
seat before you drill holes.
The added weight will make the gear legs want to spread let them. With race cars,
we use greased plates to let wheels move freely; but thats overkill here.
Just be aware and let the wheels move where they want to go before fixing alignment.
--------
Jerry King
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=424537#424537
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| From: | "b young" <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Xtra Control Problems |
the use of grease plates is good for planes as well... I was amazed to see
how much movement I got in the gear with the use of grease plates.
boyd young
The added weight will make the gear legs want to spread let them. With
race cars, we use greased plates to let wheels move freely; but thats
overkill here. Just be aware and let the wheels move where they want to go
before fixing alignment.
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| From: | Dennis Rowe <rowedenny(at)windstream.net> |
| Subject: | 2si 690L-70 soon to be fore sale |
Kolbers,
Saturday during my preflight inspection I discovered the mag end cylinder head
on my 690 had developed an outer o-ring coolant leak.
As my Rotax 670 is ready for testing and it's hard to get at the front cylinder
with the engine on the plane, I decided to pull the 2si and come ahead with
the Rotax swap.
The leak is not internal as it runs fine so it's just the outer o-ring that's bad
and I will be replacing it and the inner o-ring as a matter of course.
Point being, as soon as the 670 is confirmed to be good to go, the 690L will be
for sale.
Details: 70hp at 6250 rpm, inline triple, 28mm Mikuni VM carbs, idles smooth down
to 1400rpm, 2.65 to 1 reduction, heavy duty coated exhaust, original lighter
exhaust with minor cracking also comes with it, several sets of gearbox rubber
dampers, spare water pump, and various spare parts I've accumulated over the
years. Has less than 150 hrs "I'm at work and don't remember the exact number
in the log book", is sewing machine smooth with a three blade prop. "Prop not
included" Entire cooling system and mounting brackets included, as well as triple
Mikuni fuel pump.
I have several good pics of the installation I can send to those interested as
well as a recent vid of it idling happily at 1450rpm. Triple cable splitters and
cables on the enricher's and throttles too.
Best offer over $1200.
724-882-6788
Dennis "Skid" Rowe
Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA
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| From: | "George Bearden" <gab16(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | 2si 690L-70 soon to be fore sale (Dennis Rowe) |
> I have several good pics of the installation I can send to those
interested as well as a recent vid of it idling happily at 1450rpm.
Dennis, please post these videos somewhere that is accessible to all of us!
GeoB
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| From: | Dennis Rowe <rowedenny(at)windstream.net> |
| Subject: | Re: 2si 690L-70 soon to be fore sale (Dennis Rowe) |
Dennis "Skid" Rowe
Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA
> On Jun 11, 2014, at 2:23 AM, "George Bearden" wrote:
>
>
>> I have several good pics of the installation I can send to those
> interested as well as a recent vid of it idling happily at 1450rpm.
>
> Dennis, please post these videos somewhere that is accessible to all of us!
>
> GeoB
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| From: | "KIRBY, DENNIS T GS-14 USAF AFMC AFNWC/ENS" <dennis.kirby.3(at)us.af.mil> |
| Subject: | Re: aileron gap seal |
"t41pilot" wrote: << I just started my 3rd season using the book binding tape.
No deterioration showing up yet. My plane is hangared though. The tape is cheap
and easy to install. >>
Gregg / Kolb Friends -
I also initially used the clear plastic bookbinding tape for aileron & flaps gap
seals on my Mark-3. Strong and flexible, and it worked fine for about 6 years.
Then, the tape began to dry out and started cracking and falling off. Before
another year had passed, most of the original bookbinding tape on my ailerons
(where most movement occurs) was gone.
I knew I needed to replace the tape, but I wanted something that would last longer.
So instead of the clear book tape, and following the recommendation from
someone on this Kolb List (forgot who), I used sailboat repair tape. It's lightweight
dacron cloth tape, very sticky, comes in a 4-inch wide roll. I split
the tape evenly lengthwise (yielding two 2-inch wide strips), and stuck them
back together with a one-inch overlap, sticky-side to sticky-side.
The resulting 3-inch wide strip of tape was easy to apply, attaching on the top
of the wing, and the underside of the aileron. For now, it's only covering the
gaps on the ailerons, and it's only been there for a year. When the clear
book tape finally crumbles away from the other areas (flaps, elevator, rudder
gaps), I'll replace it with the sail repair tape.
I have no idea how long the Dacron sail tape will last. But it was fun to try
something different!
Dennis Kirby
Mark-3, 912ul, in
Sandia Park, NM
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| From: | Dennis Rowe <rowedenny(at)windstream.net> |
| Subject: | Rear housing for a Rotax E- gearbox |
Anybody know anyone parting out an E gearbox? I bought a used one with my 670 bottom
end and when prepping the engine last night for the test stand I discovered
a crack that goes half way around the drain plug and it leaks oil.
If I can't find a used housing, I'm going to have to weld it.
Apparently a former owner over torqued the drain plug and cracked the housing.
The engine builder doesn't think it left his shop like that, but that's the third
defect I found in this bottom end since receiving it from him. Also, the crack
has dirty oil in it and is definitely not fresh. Also, the drain plug looks
like it was through a war.
Live and learn.
I know damn well I didn't crack it and it wasn't damaged In shipping as the crate
was in good condition and well protected.
Seriously bummed.
Dennis "Skid" Rowe
Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Rear housing for a Rotax E- gearbox |
Dennis:
I feel your pain. Evidently, you are having a case of
"Hauck's luck".
Better days are coming.
john h
mkIII
Rock House, Oregon
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From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Dennis Rowe
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 12:25 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Rear housing for a Rotax E- gearbox
Anybody know anyone parting out an E gearbox? I bought a
used one with my 670 bottom end and when prepping the engine
last night for the test stand I discovered a crack that goes
half way around the drain plug and it leaks oil.
If I can't find a used housing, I'm going to have to weld
it.
Apparently a former owner over torqued the drain plug and
cracked the housing.
The engine builder doesn't think it left his shop like that,
but that's the third defect I found in this bottom end since
receiving it from him. Also, the crack has dirty oil in it
and is definitely not fresh. Also, the drain plug looks like
it was through a war.
Live and learn.
I know damn well I didn't crack it and it wasn't damaged In
shipping as the crate was in good condition and well
protected.
Seriously bummed.
Dennis "Skid" Rowe
Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA
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| Subject: | Re: Rear housing for a Rotax E- gearbox |
| From: | Roy Spangler <roy.spangler(at)kirtland.edu> |
Mr. Rowe,
In as much as it is not a structural issue consider JB Weld
fyi
roy
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 2:51 PM, John Hauck wrote:
> Dennis:
>
> I feel your pain. Evidently, you are having a case of
> "Hauck's luck".
>
> Better days are coming.
>
> john h
> mkIII
> Rock House, Oregon
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> Dennis Rowe
> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 12:25 PM
> To: Kolb-list
> Subject: Kolb-List: Rear housing for a Rotax E- gearbox
>
>
>
> Anybody know anyone parting out an E gearbox? I bought a
> used one with my 670 bottom end and when prepping the engine
> last night for the test stand I discovered a crack that goes
> half way around the drain plug and it leaks oil.
> If I can't find a used housing, I'm going to have to weld
> it.
> Apparently a former owner over torqued the drain plug and
> cracked the housing.
> The engine builder doesn't think it left his shop like that,
> but that's the third defect I found in this bottom end since
> receiving it from him. Also, the crack has dirty oil in it
> and is definitely not fresh. Also, the drain plug looks like
> it was through a war.
> Live and learn.
> I know damn well I didn't crack it and it wasn't damaged In
> shipping as the crate was in good condition and well
> protected.
> Seriously bummed.
>
> Dennis "Skid" Rowe
> Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA
>
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| From: | nationcap(at)comcast.net |
| Subject: | Dual Stick Postion and Movement |
Kolbers
My Mark-3 Xtra is fitted with dual sticks. But when seated in the pilot's seat,
the neutral stick position is not centered between the pilot's thighs. Neutral
stick is very close to the pilot's RIGHT inner thigh, which yields plenty of
stick travel to the left, but very limited stick travel to the right. I can't
move my right leg out of the way to the right, as it's blocked by the center
console. Full right stick limit, when it hits my thigh, moves the ailerons only
about 60 to 70 percent of their intended travel. Granted, most of the time I
may not need the full roll authority but in the one instance i.e. wind shear,
I sure would. And I've never seen any flyway sign saying "Danger Wind Sheer Ahead!
Seek Alternate Route" you don't know where there might be one.
I've thought about adjusting the aileron push rods so that the ailerons are centered
when the stick is a bit to the left, but it seems to me that this would
limit the aileron movement as well.
Is this typical to the Xtra dual-stick design?
What have other Xtra owners done to address this?
Thanks -
Brad Nation
Yellowbird1
N952DK
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| Subject: | Re: Dual Stick Postion and Movement |
| From: | B Young <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com> |
Is there a chance your dual stick assembly was built for the narrower mk
iii classic?
On Jun 12, 2014 3:11 PM, wrote:
> Kolbers
>
> My Mark-3 Xtra is fitted with dual sticks. But when seated in the pilot's
> seat, the neutral stick position is not centered between the pilot's
> thighs. Neutral stick is very close to the pilot's RIGHT inner thigh, which
> yields plenty of stick travel to the left, but very limited stick travel to
> the right. I can't move my right leg out of the way to the right, as it's
> blocked by the center console. Full right stick limit, when it hits my
> thigh, moves the ailerons only about 60 to 70 percent of their intended
> travel. Granted, most of the time I may not need the full roll authority
> but in the one instance i.e. wind shear, I sure would. And I've never seen
> any flyway sign saying "Danger Wind Sheer Ahead! Seek Alternate Route" you
> don't know where there might be one.
> I've thought about adjusting the aileron push rods so that the ailerons
> are centered when the stick is a bit to the left, but it seems to me that
> this would limit the aileron movement as well.
>
> Is this typical to the Xtra dual-stick design?
> What have other Xtra owners done to address this?
>
> Thanks -
>
> Brad Nation
> Yellowbird1
> N952DK
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| From: | "Stuart Harner" <stuart(at)harnerfarm.net> |
| Subject: | firefly fuselage cover question |
Guys,
While planning the steps needed to cover the fuselage, I have found
something I can't quite get my head around.
At the back of the fuselage where the bolt goes all the way through the flap
slider arms the fuselage cage and the tail boom, I can't figure out how to
attach the fabric.
There are no washers to keep the slider arms from rubbing against the cage.
This concerned me a little when I put it together initially, but the bold
was not long enough to add any washers on either side.
Even though the amount of movement of the slider arms is small, I think it
will eventually wear through the fabric if I cover it all the way to the
bolt hole.
If I don't cover it to the bolt hole but jump diagonally from the lower
longeron to the rear upright, when the fabric is shrunk it will pull away
and leave an ugly opening in the lower corner of fabric.
Can anyone walk me through the steps they used to cover this area?
How about some close up pictures of the fuselage?
My instinct is to buy a longer bolt and put on some washers to keep the
moving parts from wearing though the non-moving parts.
Thanks in advance.
Stuart
Tail feathers and wings are all painted and ready for assembly. Ailerons
are covered and final tapes are being applied.
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| From: | Brad Nation <nationcap(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Dual Stick Postion and Movement |
How can I tell?
Brad
Yellowbird1
N952DK
On Jun 12, 2014, at 17:47 , B Young wrote:
> Is there a chance your dual stick assembly was built for the narrower
mk iii classic?
>
> On Jun 12, 2014 3:11 PM, wrote:
> Kolbers
>
> My Mark-3 Xtra is fitted with dual sticks. But when seated in the
pilot's seat, the neutral stick position is not centered between the
pilot's thighs. Neutral stick is very close to the pilot's RIGHT inner
thigh, which yields plenty of stick travel to the left, but very limited
stick travel to the right. I can't move my right leg out of the way to
the right, as it's blocked by the center console. Full right stick
limit, when it hits my thigh, moves the ailerons only about 60 to 70
percent of their intended travel. Granted, most of the time I may not
need the full roll authority but in the one instance i.e. wind shear, I
sure would. And I've never seen any flyway sign saying "Danger Wind
Sheer Ahead! Seek Alternate Route" you don't know where there might be
one.
> I've thought about adjusting the aileron push rods so that the
ailerons are centered when the stick is a bit to the left, but it seems
to me that this would limit the aileron movement as well.
>
> Is this typical to the Xtra dual-stick design?
> What have other Xtra owners done to address this?
>
> Thanks -
>
> Brad Nation
> Yellowbird1
> N952DK
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| From: | Colin Hudson <colin.scott.hudson(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Dual Stick Postion and Movement |
I put dual controls in my X-tra. They were adjustable. I could adjust the s
ticks to the proper position. Kept them 6 months and removed them. Hated t
hem, was really disappointed in them. It was difficult to get in the cockpi
t, but the biggest problems were the extra linkage put a lot of play in the c
ontrols. Then add in the short sticks and I couldn't handle the wind shears
. Went back to the larger center stick which is more direct and provides mu
ch more leverage.
Scott Hudson
A&P/ATP
N424AL
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jun 12, 2014, at 6:47 PM, B Young wrote:
>
> Is there a chance your dual stick assembly was built for the narrower mk i
ii classic?
>
>> On Jun 12, 2014 3:11 PM, wrote:
>> Kolbers
>>
>> My Mark-3 Xtra is fitted with dual sticks. But when seated in the pilot'
s seat, the neutral stick position is not centered between the pilot's thigh
s. Neutral stick is very close to the pilot's RIGHT inner thigh, which yield
s plenty of stick travel to the left, but very limited stick travel to the r
ight. I can't move my right leg out of the way to the right, as it's blocke
d by the center console. Full right stick limit, when it hits my thigh, mov
es the ailerons only about 60 to 70 percent of their intended travel. Grante
d, most of the time I may not need the full roll authority but in the one in
stance i.e. wind shear, I sure would. And I've never seen any flyway sign sa
ying "Danger Wind Sheer Ahead! Seek Alternate Route" you don't know where th
ere might be one.
>> I've thought about adjusting the aileron push rods so that the ailerons a
re centered when the stick is a bit to the left, but it seems to me that thi
s would limit the aileron movement as well.
>>
>> Is this typical to the Xtra dual-stick design?
>> What have other Xtra owners done to address this?
>>
>> Thanks -
>>
>> Brad Nation
>> Yellowbird1
>> N952DK
>>
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| From: | Dennis Rowe <rowedenny(at)windstream.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Rear housing for a Rotax E- gearbox |
Hey guys,
Disassembly of the housing and removal of the plug reveled damage to the thr
eads. Looks like someone may have cross threaded the plug and caused the cra
ck, than chased the threads to clean it up. Real butcher. Anyway, it's at th
e weld shop now and I figure I'll have to helicoil the hole after the repair
.
Anyone know what thread those suckers are?
Dennis "Skid" Rowe
Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA
> On Jun 12, 2014, at 4:38 PM, Roy Spangler wrot
e:
>
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> Mr. Rowe,
>
> In as much as it is not a structural issue consider JB Weld
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>
> fyi
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>
> roy
>
>
>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 2:51 PM, John Hauck wrote:
>> Dennis:
>>
>> I feel your pain. Evidently, you are having a case of
>> "Hauck's luck".
>>
>> Better days are coming.
>>
>> john h
>> mkIII
>> Rock House, Oregon
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
>> Dennis Rowe
>> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 12:25 PM
>> To: Kolb-list
>> Subject: Kolb-List: Rear housing for a Rotax E- gearbox
>>
>>
>>
>> Anybody know anyone parting out an E gearbox? I bought a
>> used one with my 670 bottom end and when prepping the engine
>> last night for the test stand I discovered a crack that goes
>> half way around the drain plug and it leaks oil.
>> If I can't find a used housing, I'm going to have to weld
>> it.
>> Apparently a former owner over torqued the drain plug and
>> cracked the housing.
>> The engine builder doesn't think it left his shop like that,
>> but that's the third defect I found in this bottom end since
>> receiving it from him. Also, the crack has dirty oil in it
>> and is definitely not fresh. Also, the drain plug looks like
>> it was through a war.
>> Live and learn.
>> I know damn well I didn't crack it and it wasn't damaged In
>> shipping as the crate was in good condition and well
>> protected.
>> Seriously bummed.
>>
>> Dennis "Skid" Rowe
>> Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA
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>> Photoshare, and much much more:
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| From: | Brad Nation <nationcap(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Mark 3 X-tra Dual Controls |
That looks like what I have.
I=92ll have to take some photos as well. But I=92m going out of town so
it won=92t be until next week.
Brad
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didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought
for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we
will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's
children what it was once like in the United States where men were
free.=94
-- President Ronald Reagan
On Jun 12, 2014, at 20:52 , Colin Hudson
wrote:
> Brad I tried to send this to the list, but the pictures were too big.
To answer your question about you having the right controls. I attached
two pictures. The first is the way my controls arrived from Kolb after
I purchased them. The 2nd is the way they look installed in my M3X-tra.
If you look close you can see the adjustable linkage to put the sticks
centered where they need to be. As I said eariler, I had to remove
them. I just lost too much control with them. You will also notice all
the extra linkage that puts more play in the controls. My center stick
is longer, giving me more leverage and direct connection to the
controls. Hope this helps.
>
> Scott Hudson
> A&P/ATP
>
> N424AL
>
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| Subject: | Re: firefly fuselage cover question |
| From: | "Ducati SS" <hiwingflyer6219(at)yahoo.com> |
Did you test fit the parts with the pivot sleeves over the boom bolt? On my Firefly
the weld at the tube junction is enough to hold the arm away from the fabric,
almost no contact. I will try to get pictures, perhaps tomorrow.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=424824#424824
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| From: | "Stuart Harner" <stuart(at)harnerfarm.net> |
| Subject: | Re: firefly fuselage cover question |
Yes, I have it assembled as per plans, but then got to looking and
wondering how it all fits with the fabric.
I think the ears of the swing arms are rubbing slightly on a part of the
weld bead. I don't like things that rub, hence the thoughts about washers,
then that led to a longer bolt, etc......
Still trying to figure it all out before I start gluing fabric.
A picture would be great!
Thanks,
Stuart
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ducati SS
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 8:21 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: firefly fuselage cover question
Did you test fit the parts with the pivot sleeves over the boom bolt? On my
Firefly the weld at the tube junction is enough to hold the arm away from
the fabric, almost no contact. I will try to get pictures, perhaps tomorrow.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=424824#424824
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| Subject: | Re: Rear housing for a Rotax E- gearbox |
| From: | "racerjerry" <gki(at)suffolk.lib.ny.us> |
In order to have a CHANCE to seal, the plug will require a perfectly flat sealing
surface exactly perpendicular to the new threads. The sealing washer/gasket
is most likely not very forgiving of error. I doubt very much if this job can
be performed by hand. The tapping operation and afterward a light skim cut to
the sealing surface really needs to be performed with the case clamped securely
in a vertical mill like a Bridgeport and most likely needs a Bridgeport with
a riser block installed to take the height.
--------
Jerry King
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=424864#424864
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| Subject: | Re: Rear housing for a Rotax E- gearbox |
| From: | B Young <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com> |
If he uses a 1/8 inch npt pipe thread and plug, it is a tapered thread.
No square shoulder necessary.
Boyd
On Jun 15, 2014 5:28 AM, "racerjerry" wrote:
>
> In order to have a CHANCE to seal, the plug will require a perfectly flat
> sealing surface exactly perpendicular to the new threads. The sealing
> washer/gasket is most likely not very forgiving of error. I doubt very much
> if this job can be performed by hand. The tapping operation and afterward a
> light skim cut to the sealing surface really needs to be performed with the
> case clamped securely in a vertical mill like a Bridgeport and most likely
> needs a Bridgeport with a riser block installed to take the height.
>
> --------
> Jerry King
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=424864#424864
>
>
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| From: | B Young <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com> |
When buying a plug you can go to a plumbing supply and get one work a
raised square top, you can get them in steel or brass. I think I would
go to a plumber or heating contractor and ask if I could get a used plug
from an old gas valve from a water heater or furnace. Most valves have
a1/8 inch plug to test manifold pressure, and they have an Allen wrench
recess.they would look better.
Boyd
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| From: | K I <wrk2win4u(at)msn.com> |
| Subject: | Tail Wheel Mark IIIC |
I am working on my recently purchased 1993 Mark III. The tail wheel assemb
ly is home-made. It does not track strait as the bushing used by the previo
us owner have worn on one side causing the wheel to trail different from th
e rudder position. It appears that he used it that way and has worn down on
e side of the hard rubber wheel. I know that many Mark III owners have repl
aced their original tail wheel assemblies. If any Mark III owners have one
laying around the hanger=2C let me know what you need for it. *wrk2win4u@ms
n.com*
Kurt
Sandy=2C UT
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| From: | "Kolb List" <kolber3(at)atcyber.net> |
| Subject: | 582 Engine Vibration on Mark III |
Hoping some of you fellow Kolbers have some troubleshooting ideas. One a
recent flight, the 582 engine on our Mark III suddenly went from being the
usual silky smooth to instant roughness/vibration - almost as if something
suddenly broke. We managed to get it back to the home airport about 13
miles away. The whole airframe was shaking, but the engine seemed to be
developing full power. Switching from one ignition source to the other had
no effect. The engine monitor indicated CHT and EGT to be nearly the same
on both cylinders and within the normal range. I've since changed spark
plugs, removed both carbs for disassembly, cleaning and inspection. I
completely drained the fuel system and put fresh premium alcohol free fuel
in. All has had no effect on the vibration. Engine mounts appear to be OK
- not broken. The engine develops full power, but still shakes badly.
Prop is visually OK. Would appreciate any tips on what to check next. The
next step planned is a compression check. Thanks.
Gary
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| From: | GARY JINDRA <gajindra(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | Re: 582 Engine Vibration on Mark III |
check torque on prop bolts=0A=0AGary Jindra=0Amark 3 912 ul =0A=0A=0AOn Sun
day, June 15, 2014 8:10 PM, Kolb List wrote:=0A =0A
=0A=0AHoping some of you fellow Kolbers have some troubleshooting ideas.=C2
- One a recent flight, the 582 engine on our Mark III suddenly went from
being the usual silky smooth to instant roughness/vibration =93 almos
t as if something suddenly broke.=C2- We managed to get it back to the ho
me airport about 13 miles away.=C2- The whole airframe was shaking, but t
he engine seemed to be developing full power.=C2- Switching from one igni
tion source to the other had no effect.=C2- The engine monitor indicated
CHT and EGT to be nearly the same on both cylinders and within the normal r
ange.=C2- I=99ve since changed spark plugs, removed both carbs for
disassembly, cleaning and inspection.=C2- I completely drained the fuel s
ystem and put fresh premium alcohol free fuel in.=C2-=C2- All has had n
o effect on the vibration.=C2- Engine mounts appear to be OK - not broken
.=C2- The engine develops full power, but still shakes badly.=C2- =C2
-Prop is visually OK.=C2- Would appreciate any tips on what to
check next.=C2- The next step planned is a compression check.=C2- Than
====================
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| From: | Malcolm Brubaker <brubakermal(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: 582 Engine Vibration on Mark III |
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=0Amark 3 912 ul=0A=0A=0AOn Sunday, June 15, 2014 8:10 PM, Kolb List wrote:=0A =0A=0A=0AHoping some of you fellow Kolbers have s
ome troubleshooting ideas.=C2- One a recent flight, the 582 engine on our
Mark III suddenly went from being the usual silky smooth to instant roughn
ess/vibration =93 almost as if something suddenly broke.=C2- We man
aged to get it back to the home airport about 13 miles away.=C2- The whol
e airframe was shaking, but the engine seemed to be developing full power.
=C2- Switching from one ignition source to the other had no effect.=C2-
The engine monitor indicated CHT and EGT to be nearly the same on both cyl
inders and within the normal range.=C2- I=99ve since changed spark
plugs, removed both carbs for disassembly, cleaning and inspection.=C2- I
completely drained the fuel system and put fresh premium alcohol free fuel
in.=C2-=C2- All has had no effect on the vibration.=C2- Engine mount
s appear to be OK - not broken.=C2- The engine develops full power, but s
till shakes badly.=C2- =C2-Prop is visually OK.=C2- Would appreciate
any tips on what to
check next.=C2- The next step planned is a compression check.=C2- Than
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| Subject: | Re: 582 Engine Vibration on Mark III |
| From: | "Rex Rodebush" <jrrodebush(at)gmail.com> |
If prop is ground adjustable make sure all angles are the same and one has not
turned.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=424928#424928
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| From: | Colin Hudson <colin.scott.hudson(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: 582 Engine Vibration on Mark III |
Check for play in the gear drive by trying to move the prop up and down. Als
o, even though the prop visually looks ok one of the blades could have come o
ut of adjustment assuming it=99s a ground adjustable prop. Engine moun
ts are the #1 culprit but it sounds like you should check all of them.
Scott Hudson
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jun 15, 2014, at 7:06 PM, "Kolb List" wrote:
>
> Hoping some of you fellow Kolbers have some troubleshooting ideas. One a r
ecent flight, the 582 engine on our Mark III suddenly went from being the us
ual silky smooth to instant roughness/vibration =93 almost as if somet
hing suddenly broke. We managed to get it back to the home airport about 13
miles away. The whole airframe was shaking, but the engine seemed to be de
veloping full power. Switching from one ignition source to the other had no
effect. The engine monitor indicated CHT and EGT to be nearly the same on b
oth cylinders and within the normal range. I=99ve since changed spark
plugs, removed both carbs for disassembly, cleaning and inspection. I comp
letely drained the fuel system and put fresh premium alcohol free fuel in.
All has had no effect on the vibration. Engine mounts appear to be OK - no
t broken. The engine develops full power, but still shakes badly. Prop is
visually OK. Would appreciate any tips on what to check next. The next st
ep planned is a compression check. Thanks.
>
> Gary
>
>
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| From: | "Kolb List" <kolber3(at)atcyber.net> |
| Subject: | RE: 582 Engine Vibration on Mark III |
Update: Thanks to all who have responded with suggestions on things to
inspect. Additional inspection/troubleshooting has still not identified a
smoking gun, so I've made an appointment with a nearby Rotax service center
later this week to trailer in the whole airplane to their facility and have
them take a look at the engine and its installation. Hopefully, this effort
will identify the problem.
Original Message:
Hoping some of you fellow Kolbers have some troubleshooting ideas. One a
recent flight, the 582 engine on our Mark III suddenly went from being the
usual silky smooth to instant roughness/vibration - almost as if something
suddenly broke. We managed to get it back to the home airport about 13
miles away. The whole airframe was shaking, but the engine seemed to be
developing full power. Switching from one ignition source to the other had
no effect. The engine monitor indicated CHT and EGT to be nearly the same
on both cylinders and within the normal range. I've since changed spark
plugs, removed both carbs for disassembly, cleaning and inspection. I
completely drained the fuel system and put fresh premium alcohol free fuel
in. All has had no effect on the vibration. Engine mounts appear to be OK
- not broken. The engine develops full power, but still shakes badly.
Prop is visually OK. Would appreciate any tips on what to check next. The
next step planned is a compression check. Thanks.
Gary
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| From: | "Kolb List" <kolber3(at)atcyber.net> |
| Subject: | 582 Engine Vibration on Mark III - Problem Found |
Many thanks to all of you who responded with tips on troubleshooting. '
much appreciated. The source of the vibration appears to be a huge crack in
the one of the large triangular shaped prop hub plates on the 3 blade Warp
Drive prop (the plates that support each individual propeller blade front
and back). It wasn't immediately noticeable because of it being the plate
on the gearbox side. The crack propagated from one edge of the plate,
through the center and within a half inch of the other side. So one prop
blade was probably within moments of departing the aircraft. I have
never heard of this happening on a Warp Drive prop. The prop has 519 hours
on it. It was torqued at installation to the recommended 175 in lbs, and
each blade to the recommended 120 in lbs. To my knowledge, the prop has
never struck anything. None of the blades have ever been repaired. Warp
Drive is closed today, but intend to follow-up with them tomorrow. Again,
thanks to all who responded to my request for any troubleshooting tips. It
is great to have this forum to share ideas.
Gary
Original Message:
Hoping some of you fellow Kolbers have some troubleshooting ideas. One a
recent flight, the 582 engine on our Mark III suddenly went from being the
usual silky smooth to instant roughness/vibration - almost as if something
suddenly broke. We managed to get it back to the home airport about 13
miles away. The whole airframe was shaking, but the engine seemed to be
developing full power. Switching from one ignition source to the other had
no effect. The engine monitor indicated CHT and EGT to be nearly the same
on both cylinders and within the normal range. I've since changed spark
plugs, removed both carbs for disassembly, cleaning and inspection. I
completely drained the fuel system and put fresh premium alcohol free fuel
in. All has had no effect on the vibration. Engine mounts appear to be OK
- not broken. The engine develops full power, but still shakes badly.
Prop is visually OK. Would appreciate any tips on what to check next. The
next step planned is a compression check. Thanks.
Gary
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| Subject: | Re: 582 Engine Vibration on Mark III - Problem Found |
| From: | "George Alexander" <gtalexander(at)att.net> |
Gary:
A very similar (if not identical thing) happened to the fellow (Randy) who flew
with Arty Trost from Oregon to SnF and back in 2009. As I recall, he was enroute
and it got serious somewhere in the SW and he was in the process of swapping
the engine (R582?) when he found the cracked plate as he removed the prop.
Not sure if it was a Warp or not.
(The part of how and where he got the replacement engine from was a whole separate
story.)
kolber3(at)atcyber.net wrote:
> Many thanks to all of you who responded with tips on troubleshooting. much
appreciated. The source of the vibration appears to be a huge crack in the one
of the large triangular shaped prop hub plates on the 3 blade Warp Drive prop
(the plates that support each individual propeller blade front and back).
It wasnt immediately noticeable because of it being the plate on the gearbox
side. The crack propagated from one edge of the plate, through the center and
within a half inch of the other side. So one prop blade was probably within
moments of departing the aircraft. I have never heard of this happening on
a Warp Drive prop. The prop has 519 hours on it. It was torqued at installation
to the recommended 175 in lbs, and each blade to the recommended 120 in lbs.
To my knowledge, the prop has never struck anything. None of the blades
have ever been repaired. Warp Drive is closed today, but intend to follow-up
with them tomorrow. Again, thanks to all who responded to my request for any
troubleshooting tips. It is great to have this forum to share ideas.
>
> Gary
>
> Original Message:
> Hoping some of you fellow Kolbers have some troubleshooting ideas. One a recent
flight, the 582 engine on our Mark III suddenly went from being the usual
silky smooth to instant roughness/vibration almost as if something suddenly broke.
We managed to get it back to the home airport about 13 miles away. The
whole airframe was shaking, but the engine seemed to be developing full power.
Switching from one ignition source to the other had no effect. The engine
monitor indicated CHT and EGT to be nearly the same on both cylinders and within
the normal range. Ive since changed spark plugs, removed both carbs for disassembly,
cleaning and inspection. I completely drained the fuel system and
put fresh premium alcohol free fuel in. All has had no effect on the vibration.
Engine mounts appear to be OK - not broken. The engine develops full power,
but still shakes badly. Prop is visually OK. Would appreciate any tips
on what to check next. The next step planned is a compression check. Thanks.
>
> Gary
>
--------
George Alexander
FS II R503 N709FS
http://www.oh2fly.net
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=425148#425148
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| Subject: | Re: Tail Wheel Mark IIIC |
| From: | "pipercolt" <bob.pipercolt(at)yahoo.com> |
Hey Kurt
I tried to email you at the address in your post but it was returned. Call me
at 765-346-2622.
Bob
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=425153#425153
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| Subject: | Looking for a Kolb Slingshot for sale, flying aircraft / Kit |
| From: | "speeddemon651" <speeddemon651(at)yahoo.com> |
Looking to buy a used Kolb Slingshot, flying aircraft or partially built kit or
completely unbuilt kit. Let me know if you have one for sale. Send me a PM.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=425154#425154
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| Subject: | video and new mount |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
I got tired of the Jello that I was seeing in my videos, so I decided to
copy some of the better mounts that I have seen. The one that interested me
was on the wing. I decided to try the wing support tube that is just
hanging there to see if I could secure it enough to get a solid mount. You
of course need a remote to turn on and off your camera, but it is much
nicer than what I had been using. Here is a short video taken with it.
https://vimeo.com/98877897
Password- owyheeflyer
Larry
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| Subject: | Re: video and new mount |
| From: | B Young <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com> |
Been looking at the camera,,, removed one screw and found the contacts for
the switch...I can run 2 wires out and have a remote....or run 4 wires out
and plug into a D size battery pack and a remote.... that sounds like a
win win... I need to find a good plug
On Jun 22, 2014 4:40 PM, "Larry Cottrell" wrote:
> I got tired of the Jello that I was seeing in my videos, so I decided to
> copy some of the better mounts that I have seen. The one that interested me
> was on the wing. I decided to try the wing support tube that is just
> hanging there to see if I could secure it enough to get a solid mount. You
> of course need a remote to turn on and off your camera, but it is much
> nicer than what I had been using. Here is a short video taken with it.
>
>
> https://vimeo.com/98877897
>
> Password- owyheeflyer
>
> Larry
>
> --
> *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email
> address before sending.*
>
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| Subject: | Re: video and new mount |
| From: | B Young <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com> |
I did not see jello. Did you try different rpm's?
On Jun 22, 2014 4:40 PM, "Larry Cottrell" wrote:
> I got tired of the Jello that I was seeing in my videos, so I decided to
> copy some of the better mounts that I have seen. The one that interested me
> was on the wing. I decided to try the wing support tube that is just
> hanging there to see if I could secure it enough to get a solid mount. You
> of course need a remote to turn on and off your camera, but it is much
> nicer than what I had been using. Here is a short video taken with it.
>
>
> https://vimeo.com/98877897
>
> Password- owyheeflyer
>
> Larry
>
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| Subject: | Re: video and new mount |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
There was no jello with the new mount. I am pleased.
Larry
On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 12:40 PM, B Young wrote:
> I did not see jello. Did you try different rpm's?
> On Jun 22, 2014 4:40 PM, "Larry Cottrell" wrote:
>
>> I got tired of the Jello that I was seeing in my videos, so I decided to
>> copy some of the better mounts that I have seen. The one that interested me
>> was on the wing. I decided to try the wing support tube that is just
>> hanging there to see if I could secure it enough to get a solid mount. You
>> of course need a remote to turn on and off your camera, but it is much
>> nicer than what I had been using. Here is a short video taken with it.
>>
>>
>> https://vimeo.com/98877897
>>
>> Password- owyheeflyer
>>
>> Larry
>>
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| From: | TheWanderingWench <thewanderingwench(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: UL: Fw: [cgshawk] Bucket List help needed in Provo,Utah |
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| From: | "Larlaeb" <larlaeb(at)gmail.com> |
Great video as usual.
Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Taking off from a friends driveway |
| From: | "Larlaeb" <larlaeb(at)gmail.com> |
A friend snapped some shots of me leaving his house the other day. Hopefully I
made them small enough.
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| Subject: | Electrical Issue With My VW Powered MKIIIC |
| From: | Rick Neilsen <neilsenrm(at)gmail.com> |
It is finally Fixed.
Thanks for everyone's input on the issue I was having with my VW powered
Kolb MKIIIC. You may not remember but I had a ammeter that started
fluttering from -20 amps to + 20 amps. Turns out it was the primary fuel
pump. Since it just started doing it after 12 years it was likely it was in
short failure mode.
About seven years ago I replaced the Faucet back up fuel pump when it
stopped without warning but it was just a back up pump so no big deal.
The new replacement pump is a Carter automotive inline pump. This pump
doesn't allow fuel to pass through it when turned off so I had to re plumb
my fuel system to put the pumps in parallel with a check valve on the
Faucet pump.
Any way it is fixed. Now I need to go back and undo some of the changes I
did to track down the problem.
In the process I also changed the battery to one of the new Lithium batteries
like Aircraft Spruce sells called AeroVoltz it is a 15 AMP battery and I
usually use a cheap 12 AMP lawn mower battery. Any way the battery is more
than 10 lb less and boy does it spin the starter.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
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| From: | Charlie England <ceengland7(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Electrical Issue With My VW Powered MKIIIC |
On 6/27/2014 5:48 PM, Rick Neilsen wrote:
> It is finally Fixed.
>
> Thanks for everyone's input on the issue I was having with my VW
> powered Kolb MKIIIC. You may not remember but I had a ammeter that
> started fluttering from -20 amps to + 20 amps. Turns out it was the
> primary fuel pump. Since it just started doing it after 12 years it
> was likely it was in short failure mode.
>
> About seven years ago I replaced the Faucet back up fuel pump when it
> stopped without warning but it was just a back up pump so no big deal.
>
> The new replacement pump is a Carter automotive inline pump. This pump
> doesn't allow fuel to pass through it when turned off so I had to re
> plumb my fuel system to put the pumps in parallel with a check valve
> on the Faucet pump.
>
> Any way it is fixed. Now I need to go back and undo some of the
> changes I did to track down the problem.
>
> In the process I also changed the battery to one of the new
> Lithium batteries like Aircraft Spruce sells called AeroVoltz it is a
> 15 AMP battery and I usually use a cheap 12 AMP lawn mower battery.
> Any way the battery is more than 10 lb less and boy does it spin the
> starter.
>
> Rick Neilsen
> Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
>
Hi Rick,
I've forgotten; is your VW 'electrically dependent'? If so, have you
verified how long the lithium can keep it running if you lose the
alternator? I ask, because many of the lithium starting batteries have
tons of starting power, but very limited total energy. There's a big
discussion among bigger homebuilt guys right now about how to determine
total capacity. Bob Nuckolls recently wrote a good article about the
issue in Kitplanes.
FWIW,
Charlie
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| Subject: | Re: Electrical Issue With My VW Powered MKIIIC |
| From: | Rick Neilsen <neilsenrm(at)gmail.com> |
Charlie
Lithium batteries have been used in cell phones, and laptop computers for
years and ARE known for their large total capacity. We are now seeing them
in cordless drills because people want light long lasting power. I
understand the drill market is driving lithium development at a much faster
pace than expected. My lead acid battery was a 12 AMPH it would just barely
start the engine and if it got below 50 degrees F it wouldn't without a
jump from my external charger. When I installed the new lithium battery I
turned off the master fuel valve and cranked five times for 5-10 seconds
with a cool down with no change in cranking speed. My old lead acid battery
would drop off near the end of the second crank. When I first got the
lithium battery I was convinced they forgot to put the guts in the battery
case it is that light.
Yes my ignition system is electrically dependent. Luckily I have a
alternator that is bolted to the flywheel so as long as the engine is
turning it will produce current. It does have a external regulator which
could fail but so far it has been much more reliable than my fuel pumps.
Even though the external regulator hadn't really failed it is now new as is
most of the electrical system along with extra ground wires, switches, fuel
pumps, fuel filters, and a host of other things that I fixed looking for my
electrical issue.
Also my empty weight was 598lbs with the new battery and lighter redrive it
is 587lbs.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 10:01 PM, Charlie England
wrote:
> On 6/27/2014 5:48 PM, Rick Neilsen wrote:
>
> It is finally Fixed.
>
> Thanks for everyone's input on the issue I was having with my VW powered
> Kolb MKIIIC. You may not remember but I had a ammeter that started
> fluttering from -20 amps to + 20 amps. Turns out it was the primary fuel
> pump. Since it just started doing it after 12 years it was likely it was in
> short failure mode.
>
> About seven years ago I replaced the Faucet back up fuel pump when it
> stopped without warning but it was just a back up pump so no big deal.
>
> The new replacement pump is a Carter automotive inline pump. This pump
> doesn't allow fuel to pass through it when turned off so I had to re plumb
> my fuel system to put the pumps in parallel with a check valve on the
> Faucet pump.
>
> Any way it is fixed. Now I need to go back and undo some of the changes
> I did to track down the problem.
>
> In the process I also changed the battery to one of the new Lithium batteries
> like Aircraft Spruce sells called AeroVoltz it is a 15 AMP battery and I
> usually use a cheap 12 AMP lawn mower battery. Any way the battery is more
> than 10 lb less and boy does it spin the starter.
>
> Rick Neilsen
> Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
>
> Hi Rick,
>
> I've forgotten; is your VW 'electrically dependent'? If so, have you
> verified how long the lithium can keep it running if you lose the
> alternator? I ask, because many of the lithium starting batteries have tons
> of starting power, but very limited total energy. There's a big discussion
> among bigger homebuilt guys right now about how to determine total
> capacity. Bob Nuckolls recently wrote a good article about the issue in
> Kitplanes.
>
> FWIW,
>
> Charlie
>
> *
>
>
> *
>
>
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| Subject: | New video program |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
I have been having trouble with my copy of "Movie Maker" that came with my
computer. It had been cropping my videos down from full screen. So much so
that I decided to purchase a video program. ( drastic step there ) After
looking on the internet I found a program called "Cyberllink power
director." It was reputed to rate a 10 for ease of use. I will not go into
all the crap that I had to suffer through just to download it on my
computer. Lets just say that it took better than two days just to get in on
the computer. I was sure that I had made a mistake, but they already had my
card info, so making the best of it was the only option.
Perhaps I am just a dummy, or the guy's that rated it easy had already been
through much harder learning curves than I am willing to go through. Of
course the manual is on line, and about 200 pages long. That in its self
gives you an idea of the problem. The damn thing does too much. I merely
want to cut out the boring parts of the flights, add some narration and
music. I really don't want to be famous, I don't want world acclaim, just a
simple video of high quality that I can share with a select number of
people that share my interest. Apparently I am close to one of a kind. That
feature is tough to find in this program.
So far it has taken me two and half days to produce and upload to vimeo a 2
min 30 second video. I think a lot of my problems stem from me wanting to
keep it private.
I have for some time realized the handicap of a full enclosure when it
comes to pictures and videos. While the brain compensates for the
distortion of Lexan, the camera does not. I put a short wind screen on the
Kolb and found that it dropped my speed by about 7 MPH. No way, much too
impatient for that. I have a wrap around "full enclosure" from Kolb that is
scratched from use on the right side where I got in and out. I decided to
cut a window where I would normally look, for the lens of my camera. I bent
a couple of pieces of Lexan to form a wind deflector. It works fine. I got
my speed back, the wind doesn't hit me and I can now see, even if there
isn't a camera stuck through it.
To test it out, I decided to try an early morning flight, just as the sun
came up, to the Pillars of Rome. I have a lot of pictures of them, but
nothing really good. I got up before dawn, but there was a storm front
blowing in and the sun wasn't showing through. Finally later in the morning
the clouds broke enough that I thought that area may possibly be in the
clear. I wanted to test the port hole any way. I am very pleased with the
result. I will be able to continue to use the enclosure and not have to
replace it after all.
The video taken also gave me a chance to try out the new editing program.
Here is the result.
https://vimeo.com/99418916
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| From: | Charlie England <ceengland7(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Electrical Issue With My VW Powered MKIIIC |
I understand all the points you make, but the batteries in cell phones,
drills, etc are sized specifically for those applications. On the other
hand, most, if not all of the current crop of lithium batteries being
offered for starting duties are sized based on their ability to dump
tremendous current in a short period of time. That ability does not
address the *total energy* available in the battery. There's a
difference between available power, and available energy.
Consider a hypothetical Corvette with a 450 hp engine and a 5 gallon
fuel tank of fuel, vs a long range econobox with a 100 hp engine and a
20 gallon tank of fuel. The Corvette has over 4 times the power, but the
econobox has 4 times the energy available.
The watercraft, motorcycles, etc using the new lithium starting
batteries are getting batteries sized like the Corvette with big motor &
small tank of gas.
My question was, have you checked the energy capacity of your new
lithium starting battery to be sure that it can keep your engine/fuel
pumps, etc running long enough to find a safe landing spot if the
alternator or regulator fails.
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