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January 21, 2015 - March 10, 2015
This is just a few miles North of Phoenix, AZ.
The video is from Pleasant Valley Airport.
Leland
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| From: | "Nick Cassara" <nickc(at)mtaonline.net> |
| Subject: | Support column spacers..on engine mount? |
Kolbers,
My Kolbra plans call for "support column spacers" going around the AN6 bolts
that support the engine mount plate. The plans do not say what to make the
spacers out of and there is nothing with the kit that looks appropriate. Can
someone tell me what to use?
Thanks,
Nick Cassara
Palmer, Alaska
607AK
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| Subject: | Re: Support column spacers..on engine mount? |
| From: | "Richard Pike" <thegreybaron(at)charter.net> |
I got some round bar stock and a friend cut it to length and then used a drill
press to drill a hole right down the middle. Since it sits on the Lord mounts
anyway, it is not terribly critical. I think mine is 1" diameter, but it is cold
and dark and I am not going out to the hangar right now. If you want more details
I will go check tomorrow. Let me know.
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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
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| Subject: | Re: My First Passenger in the Kolb Mark 3C |
| From: | "alienwes" <elliott.wesley(at)yahoo.com> |
Thanks for sharing the video. Looks like good old New Mexico to me as well. Looks
like a great place to fly. What do you think your takeoff distance was?
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Wesley Elliott
Sport Pilot-PPC
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| Subject: | 503 oil pump cable end wearing |
| From: | "Tom Jones" <nahsikhs(at)elltel.net> |
This 503 came from the factory without oil injection. At 80 hours I installed
an injection system. The engine now has 136 hours so only 56 hours on this cable.
You can see it is worn about 1/4 of the way through the barrel swedge on
both ends where it contacts the oil pump lever. The pump lever is not worn at
all. I noticed the swedge is brass. Too soft??? I have lubed it with LPS
about every 10 hours.
The engine is on a Kitfox so I had California Power Sports make a cable with the
503 oiler swedge on the pump end and a barrel swedge to fit the Kitfox throttle
reverser bellcrank on the other end. I think I gave them measurements either
too short for the inner cable or too long for the outer cable.
I had to put both lock nuts on the adjuster below the bracket as shown to make
the line on the lever line up at 3000 rpm. This caused the cable to not pull
straight up on the lever at full throttle as shown in the photos. Could that
be my problem
I really like the convenience of the injection and it is supposed to be better
for the engine but this is no good. Anyone else have this problem or have any
ideas. I called CPS and they do not custom make cables anymore.
I iknow this is not a Kolb but I have had better luck asking two stroke questions
here. On the Kitfox forums if you don't have a 912 you might as well not show
up at the dance on Saturday night.
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Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | 503 oil pump cable end wearing |
Have you tried Matronic's ROTAX Engine List?
Guessing engine vibration is causing your cable stop to wear. Oiling the
fitting may be attracting dirt and grit which is accelerating wear.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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Subject: Kolb-List: 503 oil pump cable end wearing
This 503 came from the factory without oil injection. At 80 hours I
installed an injection system. The engine now has 136 hours so only 56
hours on this cable. You can see it is worn about 1/4 of the way through
the barrel swedge on both ends where it contacts the oil pump lever. The
pump lever is not worn at all. I noticed the swedge is brass. Too soft???
I have lubed it with LPS about every 10 hours.
The engine is on a Kitfox so I had California Power Sports make a cable with
the 503 oiler swedge on the pump end and a barrel swedge to fit the Kitfox
throttle reverser bellcrank on the other end. I think I gave them
measurements either too short for the inner cable or too long for the outer
cable.
I had to put both lock nuts on the adjuster below the bracket as shown to
make the line on the lever line up at 3000 rpm. This caused the cable to
not pull straight up on the lever at full throttle as shown in the photos.
Could that be my problem
I really like the convenience of the injection and it is supposed to be
better for the engine but this is no good. Anyone else have this problem or
have any ideas. I called CPS and they do not custom make cables anymore.
I iknow this is not a Kolb but I have had better luck asking two stroke
questions here. On the Kitfox forums if you don't have a 912 you might as
well not show up at the dance on Saturday night.
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Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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| Subject: | Re: 503 oil pump cable end wearing |
| From: | "Tom Jones" <nahsikhs(at)elltel.net> |
Okay, I'll try the Rotax Engines List. Thanks
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Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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| Subject: | Re: My First Passenger in the Kolb Mark 3C |
| From: | "Leland.Lam" <wadelamoreaux(at)gmail.com> |
Brad,
Hmmm..... a very rough guess is maybe 500 feet.
I was trying to be smooth and not scare my wife so I put in throttle real easy
and then let it run a little beyond normal Lift off speed.
Solo it seems to get up in less than 300 feet with out trying too hard.
Dual there was 370 pounds of people and 15 Gallons of gas.
I am certainly not an expert and I am hardly qualified to talk about the capabilities
of this aircraft. I really am learning (very slowly) what this airplane
can do.
Hope this is useful.
Leland
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| From: | gliderx5(at)comcast.net |
| Subject: | Repairing a kinked boom tube |
I have a friend that bought a Firestar that has a kinked boom tube, right under
the prop. It had a collar over it, and it was being flown like that, but he wants
a better fix. A firestar II boom is available. Will a firestar II boom fit
a firestar? Can a used boom tube be fit to another airplane. Is there another
fix?
Thanks
Malcolm Morrison
www.wienerdogaero.com
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Repairing a kinked boom tube |
Going to take a new 5" tube and H Brace. There was enough variation in
fuselages, even though welded up in the same jig, to prevent a tube fit
to one fuselage being used on a different fuselage.
Don't recommend flying with a kinked boom tube.
john h
Titus, Alabama
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Subject: Kolb-List: Repairing a kinked boom tube
I have a friend that bought a Firestar that has a kinked boom tube,
right under the prop. It had a collar over it, and it was being flown
like that, but he wants a better fix. A firestar II boom is available.
Will a firestar II boom fit a firestar? Can a used boom tube be fit to
another airplane. Is there another fix?
Thanks
Malcolm Morrison
www.wienerdogaero.com
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| Subject: | Re: Repairing a kinked boom tube |
| From: | "Richard Pike" <thegreybaron(at)charter.net> |
You will need to compare the tubes & cages. Is the wall thickness the same, and
is the OD of the tube the same? Is the distance from the front collar to the
H brace & aft bolt hole the same?
When Ed folded up FSII N582EF (before & after pictures here - http://oh2fly.net/oldpoops/kolb.htm - ) we found a basket case FSII in Florida and went and got it. As it turned out, the boom fit perfectly and assembling the two basket cases into one good airplane was pretty simple, and the boom tube into the cage almost a no-brainer, line the pieces up, a big rubber hammer and - ka-ching.
As John said, there may be variation between a FS and a FSII. In our situation,
we were using 2 FSII's, and everything fit very well. Your results may vary -
measure carefully.
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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
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| Subject: | Re: 503 oil pump cable end wearing |
| From: | Denny Baber <baberdk(at)gmail.com> |
I would try LEAF (Leading Edge Air Foils) Here are some of the parts you'll
need. http://store.leadingedgeairfoils.com/index.php?cPath=522_284 After
you make the cable, it is dipped in solder pot to make it secure.
Also, I have shortened the cable sheath with a pipe cutter. It's just as
good as lengthening the cable. The kind with a cutting wheel and you can
adjust the pressure on the wheel with a knob.
Respectfully,
Dennis Baber
Rough diamonds may sometimes be mistaken for worthless pebbles
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| Subject: | Re: 503 oil pump cable end wearing |
| From: | "Tom Jones" <nahsikhs(at)elltel.net> |
Thanks Dennis. I ordered a cable splitter like that from Spruce. The parts places
all seem to hold the information close to the chest on how the other end
of the splitter connects to the throttle wire from the hand throttle.
When It gets here I'll then see what else I need to put it all together. I also notice the Lockwood catalog has a stainless Steel oil injection fitting for the 503. http://www.lockwood.aero/p-2127-oil-injection-cable-fitting-stainless-503-only.aspx . All the other suppliers seem to use the brass fitting like wore out on mine.
Doing a little more research I have run across a couple other 503 owners that have
removed their oil injection for this same reason...the brass cable fitting
wears out quickly.
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Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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| Subject: | Re: 503 oil pump cable end wearing |
| From: | "Richard Pike" <thegreybaron(at)charter.net> |
Just looking at the top picture, it appears that the bracket is not properly aligned
with the pump arm. Why not either twist the bracket a bit to line up, or
fabricate a new bracket that puts the fitting in a better position?
Then you need a new end fitting, you can get one from CPS, I noticed they have
2 sizes, a smaller one for the 582 and a bigger one for the 503.
Looking at the close-up of the swedge, you can see where the solder has run up
the cable for about 3/4". That will certainly retain it, but also make the cable
stiffer. There is a foolproof way to solder a swedge end on without a solder
pot, and the solder does not run up the cable as far.
The swedge end will typically have the cable hole on one side the exact diameter
of the cable and it will be cut off flush with the surface. That is your entrance
hole, the cable enters the swedge from that side. The other side has the
hole somewhat flared or countersunk and also slightly larger in diameter. That
is your exit hole. If it is not slightly oversize or countersunk & flared,
make it so. Just a little bit, it doesn't take much.
With the cable extending slightly from the exit side, take a rib stitching needle,
ice pick or similar, and thoroughly rat tail, unweave and debraid the cable,
you goal is to physically enlarge the diameter of the cable so that it cannot
pull back through even if you didn't solder it. You will be surprised how easy
and effective this is. Now solder it, and you ought to see a bit of the solder
flow back out through the cable on the entrance side. What the solder is
doing is making it impossible for the steel cable to compress & get any smaller.
The adhesion of the solder to the swedge is now no longer the primary securing
method, it is now complimentary to the physical size difference between the
cable & the swedge. Clean up the excessive rat tail by taking a Dremel wheel
and trimming the rat tailed exit end back smooth with the swedge.
Now you have a cable that is oversized on its exit side, and cannot be compressed
& pulled back through a tapered and smaller hole. Plus it is still soldered
to the swedge anyway. Using the solder pot method, the hole and the cable are
a constant diameter, and rely entirely on the strength of the solder joint, in
which case a solder pot is mandatory.
Food for thought, worth what ya paid for it.
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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
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| From: | "Michael Velemirov" <mvelemirov(at)neo.rr.com> |
| Subject: | RE: Repairing a kinked boom tube. |
I purchased my MK II with a bent tube and one bent landing gear. The
tube was bent behind the H truss. I chose to replace the tube rather
than repair it. if the H truss is bent replace it otherwise you can
reuse it and the tail post truss. it is fairly simple to match drill
the holes with a template. you can purchase a new tube from Travis, for
under $500. I spent 35 years as a machinist and 13 years of that was
in a mechanical engineering shop in the Aerospace industry. I learned
about metal properties from the =9Crocket scientists=9D I
worked with. My experience tell me to replace not repair. Stand on
an empty pop can that has no dents in it. it will support your weight.
Put a little dent in it and it will collapse. Just my opinion.
Michael Velemirov
Mk II
N5067R
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | RE: Repairing a kinked boom tube. |
My hat is off to anyone that could match drill a Kolb tail boom to reuse
an H brace!
Was difficult for me to accomplish with new H braces. Over the years
installed 13 on my three Kolbs, if I counted correctly. Not easy when
on runs out of fingers.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Velemirov
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2015 9:51 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: RE: Repairing a kinked boom tube.
I purchased my MK II with a bent tube and one bent landing gear. The
tube was bent behind the H truss. I chose to replace the tube rather
than repair it. if the H truss is bent replace it otherwise you can
reuse it and the tail post truss. it is fairly simple to match drill
the holes with a template. you can purchase a new tube from Travis, for
under $500. I spent 35 years as a machinist and 13 years of that was
in a mechanical engineering shop in the Aerospace industry. I learned
about metal properties from the =9Crocket scientists=9D I
worked with. My experience tell me to replace not repair. Stand on
an empty pop can that has no dents in it. it will support your weight.
Put a little dent in it and it will collapse. Just my opinion.
Michael Velemirov
Mk II
N5067R
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| Subject: | Re: 503 oil pump cable end wearing |
| From: | "Tom Jones" <nahsikhs(at)elltel.net> |
Thanks for that tip on soldering the swedge Richard! I am going to order one of
those stainless steel swedges from Lockwood and do that. I feel a lot better
about getting this done now.
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Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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| From: | Herb <Herbgh(at)nctc.com> |
| Subject: | Re: 503 oil pump cable end wearing |
Good 'splanation.....Richard
Strikes me that silver solder would be more durable? Herb
On 01/24/2015 09:19 AM, Richard Pike wrote:
>
> Just looking at the top picture, it appears that the bracket is not properly
aligned with the pump arm. Why not either twist the bracket a bit to line up,
or fabricate a new bracket that puts the fitting in a better position?
>
> Then you need a new end fitting, you can get one from CPS, I noticed they have
2 sizes, a smaller one for the 582 and a bigger one for the 503.
>
> Looking at the close-up of the swedge, you can see where the solder has run up
the cable for about 3/4". That will certainly retain it, but also make the cable
stiffer. There is a foolproof way to solder a swedge end on without a solder
pot, and the solder does not run up the cable as far.
>
> The swedge end will typically have the cable hole on one side the exact diameter
of the cable and it will be cut off flush with the surface. That is your entrance
hole, the cable enters the swedge from that side. The other side has the
hole somewhat flared or countersunk and also slightly larger in diameter. That
is your exit hole. If it is not slightly oversize or countersunk & flared,
make it so. Just a little bit, it doesn't take much.
>
> With the cable extending slightly from the exit side, take a rib stitching needle,
ice pick or similar, and thoroughly rat tail, unweave and debraid the cable,
you goal is to physically enlarge the diameter of the cable so that it cannot
pull back through even if you didn't solder it. You will be surprised how
easy and effective this is. Now solder it, and you ought to see a bit of the
solder flow back out through the cable on the entrance side. What the solder
is doing is making it impossible for the steel cable to compress & get any smaller.
The adhesion of the solder to the swedge is now no longer the primary securing
method, it is now complimentary to the physical size difference between
the cable & the swedge. Clean up the excessive rat tail by taking a Dremel wheel
and trimming the rat tailed exit end back smooth with the swedge.
>
> Now you have a cable that is oversized on its exit side, and cannot be compressed
& pulled back through a tapered and smaller hole. Plus it is still soldered
to the swedge anyway. Using the solder pot method, the hole and the cable are
a constant diameter, and rely entirely on the strength of the solder joint,
in which case a solder pot is mandatory.
>
> Food for thought, worth what ya paid for it.
>
> --------
> Richard Pike
> Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> Kingsport, TN 3TN0
> My soul shall be joyful in the LORD; It shall rejoice in His salvation. Psalm
35:9
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=437551#437551
>
>
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| From: | Herb <Herbgh(at)nctc.com> |
| Subject: | Re: RE: Repairing a kinked boom tube. |
I have used 1/16th thick lexan strips to match hole..making sure one
has a tight fit with the thru bolt hole before starting...
By the way...I bought a bunch of scratch and dent 5 inch tubes from
TNK some years back..Perfectly good...the factory could not sell
anything but perfect tubes so they had a trailer full of these in 6 and
5 inch... Cannot imagine shipping them...but would gladly sell them for
half retail to anyone who wants to pick them up...South cent Ky
I also have a set of Firefly spars...but all the holes are drilled
for I replaced them when I went to the single lift strut wing as is on
the Firestar... could be a match hole nightmare...but doable...If I
had a hole off by a bit...I would go to the next size rivet..
400 bucks!! Wow!! And I know Travis ain't making a bunch on
them...Wish I had bought the whole trailer load...!!
By the way...have my Firefly secured on a U storage lot in
Conn....hoping to get it by end of March...
and....I am rebuilding the Firestar wings that Bro Richard gave to
me....Seriously thinking about trying them on the Fly... :-)
On 01/24/2015 10:12 AM, John Hauck wrote:
>
> My hat is off to anyone that could match drill a Kolb tail boom to
> reuse an H brace!
>
> Was difficult for me to accomplish with new H braces.Over the years
> installed 13 on my three Kolbs, if I counted correctly.Not easy when
> on runs out of fingers.
>
> john h
>
> mkIII
>
> Titus, Alabama
>
> *From:*owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Michael
> Velemirov
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 24, 2015 9:51 AM
> *To:* Kolb-List Digest Server
> *Subject:* Kolb-List: RE: Repairing a kinked boom tube.
>
> I purchased my MK II with a bent tube and one bent landing gear. The
> tube was bent behind the H truss. I chose to replace the tube rather
> than repair it. if the H truss is bent replace it otherwise you can
> reuse it and the tail post truss. it is fairly simple to match drill
> the holes with a template. you can purchase a new tube from Travis,
> for under $500. I spent 35 years as a machinist and 13 years of that
> was in a mechanical engineering shop in the Aerospace industry. I
> learned about metal properties from the rocket scientists I worked
> with. My experience tell me to replace not repair. Stand on an
> empty pop can that has no dents in it. it will support your weight.
> Put a little dent in it and it will collapse. Just my opinion.
>
> Michael Velemirov
>
> Mk II
>
> N5067R
>
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| From: | william sullivan <williamtsullivan(at)att.net> |
| Subject: | RE: Repairing a kinked boom tube. |
I replaced the boom tube on my original Firestar with a new one from Travis.
I don't remember the cost, but at the time it was reasonable- aluminum prices
vary widely from time to time. It showed up well packaged, within about a week.
I strapped down the old tube, and got a height center on the rivets with
a square and a tape measure. I drew a pen line horizontally on the new tube.
I then took a circular saw and cut templates from the old tube, clamped them
in place ( a right and left upper quarter, well marked for front, rear, top,
and bottom) and drilled through the old holes. The old H brace went right in,
all holes lining up perfectly. I did the same for the tail. Just make sure
to de-burr both the templates and the new holes.
Bill Sullivan
Windsor Locks,
Ct.
FS, 447
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| Subject: | RE: Repairing a kinked boom tube. |
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| From: | Herb <Herbgh(at)nctc.com> |
| Subject: | Re: RE: Repairing a kinked boom tube. |
a very knowledgeable fellow with Kolbs...going back to the early
days...sometimes on this list...indicated that what you did was
perfectly good..
I would not be concerned with the same or similar splice on the
inboard end of the main spar...inboard of the lift strut...
The trouble comes when one is ready to sell...disclosing these types
of fixes, as we must, is sure to kill the sale..!
Herb
On 01/24/2015 12:00 PM, undoctor wrote:
> I kinked the boom tube on my UltraSrar in a rough landing from an
> engine out. I got a scratch and dent and H brace from Homer. Rather
> than re-do the tail feathers I cut the tube a foot fore the tail and
> cut the new tube to exactly match the length of the rest of the boom.
>
> After installing the H brace and the new boom tube into the ring, I
> cut a 1' piece from the old tube, cut a kerf end to end which allowed
> me to reduce the diameter of the piece so that I could rubber mallet
> into the two ends of the original and new boom tube sections.
>
> Then I rivited both sides of the splice to the boom tube to make it
> "one" I also smeared adhesive on the kerfed coupling to assure it
> didn't begin to move.
>
> I have some pix of the process. If you'd care to see them email me
> off list.
>
> Spoke with some experts in metals who assured me it was likely
> stronger than original at the splice.
>
> Worked for me. Your fix is your choice, of course.
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: John Hauck
> Date:01/24/2015 11:12 AM (GMT-05:00)
> To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Kolb-List: RE: Repairing a kinked boom tube.
>
> *From:*owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Michael
> Velemirov
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 24, 2015 9:51 AM
> *To:* Kolb-List Digest Server
> *Subject:* Kolb-List: RE: Repairing a kinked boom tube.
>
> I purchased my MK II with a bent tube and one bent landing gear. The
> tube was bent behind the H truss. I chose to replace the tube rather
> than repair it. if the H truss is bent replace it otherwise you can
> reuse it and the tail post truss. it is fairly simple to match drill
> the holes with a template. you can purchase a new tube from Travis,
> for under $500. I spent 35 years as a machinist and 13 years of that
> was in a mechanical engineering shop in the Aerospace industry. I
> learned about metal properties from the rocket scientists I worked
> with. My experience tell me to replace not repair. Stand on an
> empty pop can that has no dents in it. it will support your weight.
> Put a little dent in it and it will collapse. Just my opinion.
>
> Michael Velemirov
>
> Mk II
>
> N5067R
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| Subject: | Re: 503 oil pump cable end wearing |
| From: | "Richard Pike" <thegreybaron(at)charter.net> |
I only ever did this with brass. Did not know that you could solder anything to
stainless steel.
--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
My soul shall be joyful in the LORD; It shall rejoice in His salvation. Psalm 35:9
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| Subject: | Re: 503 oil pump cable end wearing |
| From: | Rick Neilsen <neilsenrm(at)gmail.com> |
I don't know how the fittings are connected to the Rotax oil pump but most
cable fittings rotate so that there is little or no ware on the soft cable
ends or bending of the cable. Could you consider changing the attach
fitting?
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 2:24 PM, Richard Pike
wrote:
>
> I only ever did this with brass. Did not know that you could solder
> anything to stainless steel.
>
> --------
> Richard Pike
> Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> Kingsport, TN 3TN0
> My soul shall be joyful in the LORD; It shall rejoice in His salvation.
> Psalm 35:9
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=437568#437568
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 503 oil pump cable end wearing |
| From: | B Young <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com> |
Soldering stainless steel requires a good flux. I did some
experimenting..if I fluxed the SS cable and used a soldering iron without
much success.... melted some solder in a half inch copper cap and dipped
fluxed SS cable in the melted solder and it worked quite well
Boyd Young
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| Subject: | Re: 503 oil pump cable end wearing |
| From: | "Tom Jones" <nahsikhs(at)elltel.net> |
Richard Pike wrote:
> I only ever did this with brass. Did not know that you could solder anything
to stainless steel.
I was thinking of soldering the steel cable to secure it in the swedge using your
method. The swedge is the only stainless part.
> The adhesion of the solder to the swedge is now no longer the primary securing
method, it is now complimentary to the physical size difference between the
cable & the swedge. Clean up the excessive rat tail by taking a Dremel wheel and
trimming the rat tailed exit end back smooth with the swedge.
--------
Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=437579#437579
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| Subject: | Re: 503 oil pump cable end wearing |
| From: | Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com> |
Tom, To solder the stainless steel you have to get through the oxide layer
on the stainless. Most of the fluxes to accomplish this are acidic. The
flux will wick up the cable and is difficult if not impossible to remove.
On top of that you're going to have to get both parts red hot. Both
operations are going to be bad for the cable.
Rick Girard
On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 4:17 PM, Tom Jones wrote:
>
>
> Richard Pike wrote:
> > I only ever did this with brass. Did not know that you could solder
> anything to stainless steel.
>
>
> I was thinking of soldering the steel cable to secure it in the swedge
> using your method. The swedge is the only stainless part.
>
>
> > The adhesion of the solder to the swedge is now no longer the primary
> securing method, it is now complimentary to the physical size difference
> between the cable & the swedge. Clean up the excessive rat tail by taking a
> Dremel wheel and trimming the rat tailed exit end back smooth with the
> swedge.
>
>
> --------
> Tom Jones
> Classic IV
> 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
> Ellensburg, WA
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=437579#437579
>
>
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-Andre Gide
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| Subject: | Re: 503 oil pump cable end wearing |
| From: | "Tom Jones" <nahsikhs(at)elltel.net> |
Well, I guess I'll go back to brass and hope for the best. I ordered 4 brass swedges
so I can replace them every 20 hours or so I guess.
--------
Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=437583#437583
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| From: | jimbaker(at)npacc.net |
| Subject: | Re: 503 oil pump cable end wearing |
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| Subject: | Re: 503 oil pump cable end wearing |
| From: | "Tom Jones" <nahsikhs(at)elltel.net> |
Jim, thanks for those ideas. I have thought about your idea, "With a smaller
ball one could forgo the fork and countersink the back of the bolt thru-cable
hole to provide a seat for the ball".
I am also wondering about the fit of the brass barrel being a little loose in the
pump lever.
The only place these parts seem to be available is from after market parts suppliers...not
directly from Rotax. The suppliers all specify the barrel is 5/16.
Every other part on my Rotax engine is metric. I was wondering about using
an 8mm bolt for a better fit.
--------
Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: 503 oil pump cable end wearing |
I think Jim B is correct, vibration and not grit.
I also think reinventing with bigger and different band aids won't fix
the problem, which most likely is severe vibration.
Had a 582 with oil injection on my MKIII initially. Flew it about 225.0
hours in six months before I removed it permanently and went to a 912.
As far as I know there was zero wear on this cable component. Replacing
every 20 hours isn't the solution I'd be looking at.
Fix your vibration problem and most likely you will also fix your oil
injection cable fitting problem.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
jimbaker(at)npacc.net
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2015 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: 503 oil pump cable end wearing
I sure wouldn't settle for 20 hr replacement. Get inventive.
The wear indicated, if truly from excessive vibration, would indicate
that the barrel end had way too much room to move. The arm is, I
believe, spring loaded...any thought to increasing that tension with an
additional spring so the cable is under greater tension? I'd also think
the grit induced wear theory is overblown.
I would probably modify the cable end to the fork/swaged or soldered
ball design and replace the brass barrel with a bolt. With a smaller
ball one could forgo the fork and countersink the back of the bolt
thru-cable hole to provide a seat for the ball. Any number of ways to
modify. I'd also look at some large scale R/C aircraft fittings for
ideas ( small all metal heim joint fittings come to mind ).
http://store.rc4wd.com/High-Precision-Billet-Tie-Rod-End-M3-Silver_p_641.
html
Jim Baker
405.426.5377
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Jones <nahsikhs(at)elltel.net>
Sent: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 7:11 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: 503 oil pump cable end wearing
Well, I guess I'll go back to brass and hope for the best. I ordered 4
brass swedges so I can replace them every 20 hours or so I guess.
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Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=437583#437583
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| Subject: | Re: 503 oil pump cable end wearing |
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| Subject: | Re: 503 oil pump cable end wearing |
| From: | "Tom Jones" <nahsikhs(at)elltel.net> |
> Tom, There's .002" difference between 5/16 and 8 mm, .3125 vs .3145. I'd base
the decision on which is cheaper, a brass cable stop or a steel oil pump bell
crank. If it were me I'd rather the stop wear than the crank.Just a thought.
> Rick Girard
>
Our EAA club technical councilor has the same thinking as you do Rick. I asked
him why they didn't make the swedge out of steel instead of brass. His reply
was "Probably so the swedge will wear and not wear out the pump lever.
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Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=437617#437617
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| Subject: | Re: 503 oil pump cable end wearing |
| From: | "racerjerry" <gki(at)suffolk.lib.ny.us> |
How about making a new cable swivel (barrel) and using a new cable / splitter with
a free end - no swaged fittings at oiler.
Make a new barrel from brass rod cross drilled to snugly fit cable.
Drill rod lengthwise and tap hole for machine screw thread - full length of barrel.
Move adjuster to a better position where it is not trying to kink cable.
Slide new barrel to best position and firmly tighten set screw to secure cable.
I would make the barrel slightly longer at the outboard end (cable hole not centered)
to provide more meat for thread engagement. I would also use a short Allen
bolt in place of the set screw to enable better tightening - no tiny Allen
keys. You can Locktite the set screw, but it's probably not necessary.
Keep things clean and use a drop of oil - not WD-40 on the barrel. WD is primarily
a moisture displacer with marginal lubricating properties.
If you want a belt & suspenders approach, you can splay the back end of the cable
strands and solder the wire ends, but this really works well only on zinc coated
cables - not stainless. Unfortunately, solder wicking up the cable strands
makes the cable rigid and almost guarantees eventual breakage at the stress
concentration point where the solder wicking ends.
Hope this helps.
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Jerry King
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=437618#437618
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| From: | william sullivan <williamtsullivan(at)att.net> |
| Subject: | Re: 503 oil pump cable end wearing |
I would be tempted to make one out of Oilite bronze. Self lubricating.
Bill Sullivan
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On Sun, 1/25/15, Tom Jones wrote:
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: 503 oil pump cable end wearing
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Sunday, January 25, 2015, 11:34 AM
"Tom Jones"
> Tom, There's .002" difference between 5/16 and 8 mm,
.3125 vs .3145. I'd base the decision on which is cheaper, a
brass cable stop or a steel oil pump bell crank. If it were
me I'd rather the stop wear than the crank.Just a thought.
> Rick Girard
>
Our EAA club technical councilor has the same thinking as
you do Rick. I asked him why they didn't make the swedge out
of steel instead of brass. His reply was "Probably so
the swedge will wear and not wear out the pump lever.
--------
Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=437617#437617
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| From: | william sullivan <williamtsullivan(at)att.net> |
Click on various stuff in this link. My brother sent it to me, thinking I'd
be interested. With Rotax dropping the small 2-strokes, there is a need for replacements.
The weight to HP ratio looks pretty good. Does anyone have any
experience/comments on this one?
http://www.bourke-engine.com/ani
Bill Sullivan
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| From: | Charlie England <ceengland7(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Bourke engine |
On 1/25/2015 11:18 AM, william sullivan wrote:
>
> Click on various stuff in this link. My brother sent it to me, thinking I'd
be interested. With Rotax dropping the small 2-strokes, there is a need for
replacements. The weight to HP ratio looks pretty good. Does anyone have any
experience/comments on this one?
>
> http://www.bourke-engine.com/ani
>
>
I'd suggest finding an independent engineering evaluation. My thoughts:
Consider how severe the imbalance will be with both pistons moving the
same direction, then how much the counterweight will weigh to counteract
that force (without contributing any power). Then consider how long a
sliding line-contact sliding bearing is going to last when subjected to
those forces. The claim is 1/4 pound (0.25 lb) per hp/hr. This is better
by about 30% than the most efficient internal combustion engine ever
built, and it's still a 2 stroke engine. Isn't it a bit strange that a
design that's been around long enough for the patents to expire, and is
super clean, and beats the best tech out there by 30%, hasn't taken over
every engine market on the planet? And it uses 'detonation' to extract
more energy from the fuel? What happens to a piston when you have
detonation in the combustion chamber? (Answer help: nothing good.)
Current technology in 4 strokes can come pretty close to the same
power/weight ratio as old tech 2 strokes. Just need someone to make them
available at an affordable price.
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| Subject: | Re: Bourke engine |
| From: | undoctor <undoctor(at)ptd.net> |
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| Subject: | Re: 503 oil pump cable end wearing |
| From: | "Tom Jones" <nahsikhs(at)elltel.net> |
I called Lockwood Aviation tech support this morning and told him my 503 brass
oil injection cable barrel swedge had worn out quickly and if he had any ideas
why. He dodged the question and said he only uses stainless steel swedges and
stainless steel cables. He silver solders them.
They only make oil injection cables to fit the throttle cable splitters they sell.
He said if I get the exact length measurements and size of barrel swedges
on the ends he would make a stainless steel cable and stainless barrel swedge
to fit the Kitfox throttle reverser bellcrank.
He also said he sometimes bends the pump cable bracket to get better alignment
of the cable. Several of you have suggested that too.
As far as excessive vibration of my engine, I don't notice any excessive vibration
and have had comments from other pilots on how smooth it is in flight.
I really appreciate the number of replies I recieved from the Kolb forum on this
question. There are a lot of good ideas for me to keep in mind.
--------
Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=437656#437656
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: 503 oil pump cable end wearing |
I go back to my comment of finding the cause before proceeding to bigger
band aids. For some reason, and the first to come to my mind is excessive
vibration, that fitting is wearing abnormally fast. The vibration may not
be felt in the airframe, but possibly could be a high frequency vibration
being generated by the 503 engine which is probably fan cooled. Something
is exciting that fitting to cause it to dance and wear. I don't pay a lot
of attention to two stroke Rotax engines anymore because I don't live in
that environment, and haven't since 1993. With my limited knowledge I
haven't heard of others having this particular problem.
If you don't find and fix what is causing your part to wear, when there are
thousands of others out there that are not wearing, what good is it to
replace with something else?
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
As far as excessive vibration of my engine, I don't notice any excessive
vibration and have had comments from other pilots on how smooth it is in
flight.
I really appreciate the number of replies I recieved from the Kolb forum on
this question. There are a lot of good ideas for me to keep in mind.
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Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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| Subject: | Re: 503 oil pump cable end wearing |
| From: | "Tom Jones" <nahsikhs(at)elltel.net> |
John Hauck wrote:
> I go back to my comment of finding the cause before proceeding to bigger
> band aids. For some reason, and the first to come to my mind is excessive
> vibration, that fitting is wearing abnormally fast. The vibration may not
> be felt in the airframe, but possibly could be a high frequency vibration
> being generated by the 503 engine which is probably fan cooled. Something
> is exciting that fitting to cause it to dance and wear. I don't pay a lot
> of attention to two stroke Rotax engines anymore because I don't live in
> that environment, and haven't since 1993. With my limited knowledge I
> haven't heard of others having this particular problem.
>
> If you don't find and fix what is causing your part to wear, when there are
> thousands of others out there that are not wearing, what good is it to
> replace with something else?
>
> john h
> mkIII
> Titus, Alabama
>
I appreciate your comments John. I will pursue that possibility too.
Thanks
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Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=437667#437667
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| From: | "Shadow94" <seanote(at)echoes.net> |
Had the opportunity to meet Malcolm Morrison, have lunch and talk Kolbs and airplanes.
It was nice to break up the bad weather and busy day by talking airplanes.
Can't wait for spring and flying season.
Thanks for taking time out of your day to meet me Malcolm.
Mark
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Mark
Twinstar MKII
Great Bend, PA
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=437687#437687
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| Subject: | Re: Bourke engine |
| From: | undoctor <undoctor(at)ptd.net> |
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| Subject: | Re: Bourke engine |
| From: | undoctor <undoctor(at)ptd.net> |
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| From: | kinne russ <russk50(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Bourke engine |
Undoctor =94 you should know that your posts come thru as
gibberish. At least on a Mac.
> On Jan 27, 2015, at 12:09 PM, undoctor wrote:
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________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Bourke engine |
| From: | Robert Laird <rlaird(at)cavediver.com> |
He's sending out Android multipart messages... Most email systems decode
it just fine. Here's the header:
----_com.android.email_362066747291730
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
I'll bet if you viewed his messages on a different email program, it would
look fine (like it does for most of us).
-- Robert
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 11:10 AM, undoctor wrote:
> Huh, never heard that before. Anyone else having a problem?
>
> Russ, what kind of gibberish?
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: kinne russ
> Date:01/28/2015 11:46 AM (GMT-05:00)
> To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Bourke engine
>
> Undoctor =94 you should know that your posts come thru as gibberish
. At
> least on a Mac.
>
> On Jan 27, 2015, at 12:09 PM, undoctor wrote:
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________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Charlie England <ceengland7(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Bourke engine |
Russ' copied text is gibberish, but Undoctor's looks fine on a Win7 PC.
Another attempt by Apple to drive everyone into the hive? :-)
n 1/28/2015 11:10 AM, undoctor wrote:
> Huh, never heard that before. Anyone else having a problem?
>
> Russ, what kind of gibberish?
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: kinne russ
> Date:01/28/2015 11:46 AM (GMT-05:00)
> To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Bourke engine
>
> Undoctor you should know that your posts come thru as gibberish. At
> least on a Mac.
>
>> On Jan 27, 2015, at 12:09 PM, undoctor > > wrote:
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| From: | "Stuart Harner" <stuart(at)harnerfarm.net> |
I am running Outlook 2010 on a Windows machine and undoctor=99s
messages are always blank for me.
However, if I log onto the Matronics web site and view them in the
forum, they are fine. Also, if someone does a reply and leaves
undoctor=99s comments in the reply, I USUALLY (but not always) see
the text of the original message.
Very strange, I have always been curious as to what causes this.
Stuart
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of kinne russ
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Bourke engine
Undoctor =94 you should know that your posts come thru as
gibberish. At least on a Mac.
On Jan 27, 2015, at 12:09 PM, undoctor wrote:
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| From: | Charlie England <ceengland7(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Bourke engine |
When in doubt, blame Outlook.
:-)
Seriously, check on whether Outlook is set to display only plain text,
or some similar setting.
Charlie
Win7 using Thunderbird email client
On 1/28/2015 6:03 PM, Stuart Harner wrote:
>
> I am running Outlook 2010 on a Windows machine and undoctors messages
> are always blank for me.
>
> However, if I log onto the Matronics web site and view them in the
> forum, they are fine. Also, if someone does a reply and leaves
> undoctors comments in the reply, I USUALLY (but not always) see the
> text of the original message.
>
> Very strange, I have always been curious as to what causes this.
>
> Stuart
>
> *From:*owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *kinne russ
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 28, 2015 10:47 AM
> *To:* kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: Kolb-List: Bourke engine
>
> Undoctor you should know that your posts come thru as gibberish. At
> least on a Mac.
>
>
> On Jan 27, 2015, at 12:09 PM, undoctor > wrote:
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| Subject: | Trimming messages |
| From: | JC Gilpin <j.gilpin(at)bigpond.com> |
Sure would be good if everyone trimmed the history of old messages from
their postings.....
Just leave enough to remind us what the post is replying to.
JG
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| From: | "Michael Velemirov" <mvelemirov(at)neo.rr.com> |
| Subject: | RE: Bourke engine gibberish |
I=99m getting gibberish also. I=99m using windows 7 and
Windows live email
Michael Velemirov
Twinstar Mk II
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| Subject: | RE: Bourke engine gibberish |
| From: | undoctor <undoctor(at)ptd.net> |
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| From: | "woody" <n3022.176(at)gmail.com> |
I believe that Mazda still puts a Wankel rotary engine in their RX-8.
A car that will outrun anything in it's class including the Porches.
I've watched this firsthand at Barbers road course in Leeds, AL.
The engine, with two turbochargers, puts out tremendous HP & torque.
Nobody can stay with them, coming out of the tight turns or on the long straights.
I imagine these engines to be expensive to buy & feed as 2 stroke engines
are notorious gas guzzlers.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=437818#437818
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| From: | Charlie England <ceengland7(at)gmail.com> |
On 1/29/2015 9:30 AM, woody wrote:
>
> I believe that Mazda still puts a Wankel rotary engine in their RX-8.
> A car that will outrun anything in it's class including the Porches.
> I've watched this firsthand at Barbers road course in Leeds, AL.
> The engine, with two turbochargers, puts out tremendous HP & torque.
> Nobody can stay with them, coming out of the tight turns or on the long straights.
> I imagine these engines to be expensive to buy & feed as 2 stroke engines
> are notorious gas guzzlers.
>
>
Yes, very light and quick, and not, not, and not.
The twin turbo was the last generation RX7; the RX8 (Renesis powered)
was normally aspirated (no turbo option). Unfortunately, the RX8 is no
longer produced, and Mazda is not currently selling rotary powered cars,
to my knowledge (definitely not in the USA). I previously sent links to
two potential new rotary products from Mazda, a small (~300cc)
'sustainer' engine for a hybrid car (should be just about perfect for a
Kolb), and the 16B, a larger displacement (1600cc), all aluminum rotary
intended for a new sports car. The latter has us aviating rotor heads
salivating. It will likely be around 250-275 HP normally aspirated, and
the core engine will weigh around 120-130 lbs (the Renesis core weighs
around 190 lbs & produces around 200 HP). Remember, those weights are
for bare engines; what a V-8 builder would call a 'long block'. All up
for flight, with radiator, oil cooler, etc, a Renesis weighs around
330-340 lbs. The weight & HP numbers for the Renesis are 'real world',
proven-in-a/c numbers, not marketing hype from someone trying to sell
you worthless stock options.
The engines are relatively inexpensive from salvage yards; typically a
few hundred dollars for the old 13B engines and from a few hundred to
under a couple thousand for Renesis engines in near new condition. Fuel
economy is slightly worse (~10%) than piston engines, but the normally
aspirated engines prefer the lowest octane fuel you can find. And they
are --not-repeat-not-- 2 stroke engines. They go through a normal 4
stroke power cycle just like a piston engine; but do all 4 strokes in
one rev of the rotor. Engineers often call them 'rotary combustion'
engines, since the combustion process travels around the engine as it
occurs.
I wouldn't claim to be an authority, but I am familiar with them; I've
owned two RX-7's, I'm installing a Renesis in an RV-7 & I have a lot of
friends already flying rotaries. If anyone wants more info, just let me
know.
Thanks,
Charlie
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Friend looking for good twoplace kolb. I think an older mk might be good. Has
hurricane for sale or trade. Also a 503 and 337 in running condition. Reply
at tc1917(at)bellsouth.net or 256-642-0711. Ted cowan slingshot 912 zoom zoom
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| From: | TheWanderingWench <thewanderingwench(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Please help me find the GPS thread in the archives |
I remember a long thread about GPSs on this list - which were visible in br
ight sunlight, whether to use an iPad or iPod or something else...
I can't find it, and now that I'm ready to get a GPS, I'd love to re-read t
hat thread before asking the list questions.
Thanks -
Arty TrostSandy, Oregon=C2-www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com/uladventure2009.htm
"Life's a daring adventure or nothing"
Helen Keller
"I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death."
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| Subject: | Please help me find the GPS thread in the archives |
| From: | JC Gilpin <j.gilpin(at)bigpond.com> |
I use the iFly 700, and find it really good in the sunlight. I haven't
seen anything better. I don't think an iPad could do anywhere near as well.
JG
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| Subject: | Re: Please help me find the GPS thread in the archives |
| From: | Frank <frank.goodnight(at)att.net> |
Hi,
I use a mini I pad. Really washes
out on sunlight--unreadable
Hower I bought a cheap plastic
Container that the bottom fits the I pad.
With sides about 4inhight, painted
The inside black. Makesthe I pad
Perfectly readable in any light.I use the I pad for all fllight planing , as
a GPS
, charts and all navigation.
Great setup and cheap. Good luck
Frank.
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 6, 2015, at 3:56 AM, JC Gilpin wrote:
> I use the iFly 700, and find it really good in the sunlight. I haven't se
en anything better. I don't think an iPad could do anywhere near as well.
>
> JG
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Please help me find the GPS thread in the archives |
| From: | Robert Laird <rlaird(at)cavediver.com> |
I believe the thread was "Modern GPSes", and the Garmin 60CX was mentioned
as being viewable in daylight.
On Thursday, February 5, 2015, TheWanderingWench <
thewanderingwench(at)yahoo.com> wrote:
> I remember a long thread about GPSs on this list - which were visible in
> bright sunlight, whether to use an iPad or iPod or something else...
>
> I can't find it, and now that I'm ready to get a GPS, I'd love to re-read
> that thread before asking the list questions.
>
> Thanks -
>
> Arty Trost
> Sandy, Oregon
>
> www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com/uladventure2009.htm
>
> "Life's a daring adventure or nothing"
> Helen Keller
>
> "I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death."
>
> *
>
>
> *
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Please help me find the GPS thread in the archives |
| From: | Charlie England <ceengland7(at)gmail.com> |
I use an original nexus 7 in an rv4 (bubble canopy) with no problems seeing screen
details. The newer '2013' model is said to be much brighter still, and has
more total pixels than a full size ipad with Retina display. I find the free
Avare software to be more than adequate for basic navigation.
FWIW,
Charlie
>I believe the thread was "Modern GPSes", and the Garmin 60CX was
>mentioned
>as being viewable in daylight.
>
>
>On Thursday, February 5, 2015, TheWanderingWench <
>thewanderingwench(at)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> I remember a long thread about GPSs on this list - which were visible
>in
>> bright sunlight, whether to use an iPad or iPod or something else...
>>
>> I can't find it, and now that I'm ready to get a GPS, I'd love to
>re-read
>> that thread before asking the list questions.
>>
>> Thanks -
>>
>> Arty Trost
>> Sandy, Oregon
>>
>> www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com/uladventure2009.htm
>>
>> "Life's a daring adventure or nothing"
>> Helen Keller
>>
>> "I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death."
>>
>> *
>>
>>
>> *
>>
>>
--
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________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Shadow94" <seanote(at)echoes.net> |
Just wanted to share with the Kolb flock. Stopped by the power coater yesterday
and got to see a naked Twinstar ready for the powder. Shop says I can pick
it up tomorrow, weather permitting here.
--------
Mark
Twinstar MKII
Great Bend, PA
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=438203#438203
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0360_167.jpg
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| From: | "Shadow94" <seanote(at)echoes.net> |
Just another update. Twinstar home from the powder coater yesterday. Came out
real nice. Can't wait to get my goodies from Aircraft Spruce!!
--------
Mark
Twinstar MKII
Great Bend, PA
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=438262#438262
Attachments:
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http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0369_570.jpg
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| Subject: | new camera mount- version 3 |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
As you might recall, I had a bone spur removed from one of my feet. The
healing process has gone a bit better than the Doc thought it should. I am
not able to do any extended walking, but within reason, things are fine.
I realize that most of you poor souls are experiencing Global warming at
its best. Apparently there isn't a large enough population here where I
live to adversely affect the climate, so we are having our usual nice two
weeks or so of great weather here in the West. Today was 61 degrees with no
wind. The wife is out of town for the weekend, so there was no one to tell
me that I shouldn't fly yet. You should look at today's video and be
reassured that even your shitty weather will also pass. I have found that
the only thing that stays the same is -every thing changes.
The Virb camera that I have recently bought seemed a bit more difficult to
get good smooth video than the Drift that I had been using. The Virb seems
to have a bit clearer picture, and I do like the track and speed feature on
it as well. So I want to make it my main camera. I tried it on the wing,
and I have to hold it at a certain speed to keep the shake and jello out of
it. I put it back on the nose, and had the same problem. The speed that the
video was the least shaky at, was just a bit too slow for comfortable
"yanking and banking". The next best speed was full throttle. Also not what
I really wanted.
Having nothing to occupy my time these last few weeks other than ice packs
and TV, I formed the thought that the bar of Alum that I had fixed to fit
behind the pitot tube holder and the nose pf the pod, might be contributing
to the shakes. So this morning I dug out my virb box and got one of the
sticky pads that they had for a helmet mount. I stuck it on the nose pod,
fixed up a safety wire just in case, and tried my best to wait the
recommended 24 hours for the base to be "firmly" attached. Well, I did my
best, but if I was ever going to have "patients", I would have been a
Doctor. I finally couldn't stand it any longer and rolled the plane out.
I could have stuck it out of sight under the nose pod, if I had thought of
it before, but I don't mind it up on top, although I do think it is raising
hell with my "yarn" slip indicator.
The video is the most steady through out the full throttle range that I
have found yet, and of course I had a great time. Hang in there guys,
better times are coming.
https://vimeo.com/119720660
password- owyheeflyer
Larry
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| From: | Patrick Ladd <patrickjladd(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: new camera mount- version 3 |
Hi Larry,
welcome back. Glad that your operation is sorting itself out more
quickly than expected. Your camera mount seems perfect. It even dealt
with the vibration when you were on the ground. Wx in the UK has been
pretty good. In the south we have had not winter yet although Scotland
and the North of England have had some snow. Nothing that persisted
beyond a couple of days. Overcast and rain today but we have had several
long periods of nil wind and good flying weather with a large high
pressure area over us.
No flying for me any more I am afraid although i am trying to convince
myself that my bank book would stand a half hour flight in a Spitfire.
I flew a Mustang for an hour in Kissimmee many years ago and I have
managed to get into a couple of T6`s and a couple of jets over the years
and I would dearly love to add the Spitfire. Heigh Ho. Pat
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Bob Green <bgreen(at)bimi.org> |
| Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/15/15 |
Very nice!
Bob G
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> 1. 08:45 PM - new camera mount- version 3 (Larry Cottrell)
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> Subject: Kolb-List: new camera mount- version 3
> From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>
>
> As you might recall, I had a bone spur removed from one of my feet. The
> healing process has gone a bit better than the Doc thought it should. I am
> not able to do any extended walking, but within reason, things are fine.
>
> I realize that most of you poor souls are experiencing Global warming at
> its best. Apparently there isn't a large enough population here where I
> live to adversely affect the climate, so we are having our usual nice two
> weeks or so of great weather here in the West. Today was 61 degrees with no
> wind. The wife is out of town for the weekend, so there was no one to tell
> me that I shouldn't fly yet. You should look at today's video and be
> reassured that even your shitty weather will also pass. I have found that
> the only thing that stays the same is -every thing changes.
>
> The Virb camera that I have recently bought seemed a bit more difficult to
> get good smooth video than the Drift that I had been using. The Virb seems
> to have a bit clearer picture, and I do like the track and speed feature on
> it as well. So I want to make it my main camera. I tried it on the wing,
> and I have to hold it at a certain speed to keep the shake and jello out of
> it. I put it back on the nose, and had the same problem. The speed that the
> video was the least shaky at, was just a bit too slow for comfortable
> "yanking and banking". The next best speed was full throttle. Also not what
> I really wanted.
>
> Having nothing to occupy my time these last few weeks other than ice packs
> and TV, I formed the thought that the bar of Alum that I had fixed to fit
> behind the pitot tube holder and the nose pf the pod, might be contributing
> to the shakes. So this morning I dug out my virb box and got one of the
> sticky pads that they had for a helmet mount. I stuck it on the nose pod,
> fixed up a safety wire just in case, and tried my best to wait the
> recommended 24 hours for the base to be "firmly" attached. Well, I did my
> best, but if I was ever going to have "patients", I would have been a
> Doctor. I finally couldn't stand it any longer and rolled the plane out.
>
> I could have stuck it out of sight under the nose pod, if I had thought of
> it before, but I don't mind it up on top, although I do think it is raising
> hell with my "yarn" slip indicator.
>
> The video is the most steady through out the full throttle range that I
> have found yet, and of course I had a great time. Hang in there guys,
> better times are coming.
>
> https://vimeo.com/119720660
>
> password- owyheeflyer
>
> Larry
>
>
> --
> *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email
> address before sending.*
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
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| From: | John Brooks <jmbrooks(at)ctc.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/15/15 |
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> in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes
> and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version
> of the Kolb-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor
> such as Notepad or with a web browser.
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>
> 1. 08:45 PM - new camera mount- version 3 (Larry Cottrell)
>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
>
>
> Subject: Kolb-List: new camera mount- version 3
> From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>
>
> As you might recall, I had a bone spur removed from one of my feet. The
> healing process has gone a bit better than the Doc thought it should. I am
> not able to do any extended walking, but within reason, things are fine.
>
> I realize that most of you poor souls are experiencing Global warming at
> its best. Apparently there isn't a large enough population here where I
> live to adversely affect the climate, so we are having our usual nice two
> weeks or so of great weather here in the West. Today was 61 degrees with no
> wind. The wife is out of town for the weekend, so there was no one to tell
> me that I shouldn't fly yet. You should look at today's video and be
> reassured that even your shitty weather will also pass. I have found that
> the only thing that stays the same is -every thing changes.
>
> The Virb camera that I have recently bought seemed a bit more difficult to
> get good smooth video than the Drift that I had been using. The Virb seems
> to have a bit clearer picture, and I do like the track and speed feature on
> it as well. So I want to make it my main camera. I tried it on the wing,
> and I have to hold it at a certain speed to keep the shake and jello out of
> it. I put it back on the nose, and had the same problem. The speed that the
> video was the least shaky at, was just a bit too slow for comfortable
> "yanking and banking". The next best speed was full throttle. Also not what
> I really wanted.
>
> Having nothing to occupy my time these last few weeks other than ice packs
> and TV, I formed the thought that the bar of Alum that I had fixed to fit
> behind the pitot tube holder and the nose pf the pod, might be contributing
> to the shakes. So this morning I dug out my virb box and got one of the
> sticky pads that they had for a helmet mount. I stuck it on the nose pod,
> fixed up a safety wire just in case, and tried my best to wait the
> recommended 24 hours for the base to be "firmly" attached. Well, I did my
> best, but if I was ever going to have "patients", I would have been a
> Doctor. I finally couldn't stand it any longer and rolled the plane out.
>
> I could have stuck it out of sight under the nose pod, if I had thought of
> it before, but I don't mind it up on top, although I do think it is raising
> hell with my "yarn" slip indicator.
>
> The video is the most steady through out the full throttle range that I
> have found yet, and of course I had a great time. Hang in there guys,
> better times are coming.
>
> https://vimeo.com/119720660
>
> password- owyheeflyer
>
> Larry
>
> Great to have a new video from you, glad to hear that you're doing well after
surgery and flying again. Really good vid!
John Brooks
Oakboro, NC
Firestar II
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Tony &Heather Oldman <aoldman(at)xtra.co.nz> |
| Subject: | Re: new camera mount- version 3 |
Then go for it Pat. If it dosnt put you in the soup kitchen then it will be
worth every penny,I lost two good friends on a training flight about 3 wee
ks ago. The instructor on that flight tought me to fly over 20 years ago. J
ack was 86 years young had flown most things and had many aviation awards f
or his years of instruction and dedication to aviation,his pilots license w
as 75 years old at the time of the accident, =C2-. His teachings included
aviation is fun, go have safe fun .The student on that flight was a senior
police officer ,he loved to fly . I had taken him for a flight in the Kolb
about 3 weeks before the accident ,he loved it. Who could not like the way
a Kolb flys ?Not trying to be morbid , just saying do it while you are abl
e, none of us know what is around the corner ,=C2-So if you have the mean
s go do it. I expect a debrief.=C2-
Regards=C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2-Downunder=C2- =C2- =C2
- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- M
K111c and not flying enough =C2-
On Monday, 16 February 2015 11:45 PM, Patrick Ladd wrote:
Hi Larry,welcome back. Glad that your operation is sorting itself out more
quickly than expected. Your camera mount seems perfect. It even dealt with
the vibration when you were on the ground.=C2- Wx in the UK has been pre
tty good. In the south we have had not winter yet although Scotland and the
North of England have had some snow. Nothing that persisted beyond a coupl
e of days. Overcast and rain today but we have had several long periods of
nil wind and good flying weather with a large high pressure area over us.No
flying for me any more I am afraid although i am trying to convince myself
that my bank book would stand a half hour flight in a Spitfire.=C2- I fl
ew a Mustang for an hour in Kissimmee many years ago and I have managed to
get into a couple of T6`s and a couple of jets over the years and I would d
early love to add the Spitfire. Heigh Ho.=C2- Pat=C2-http://forums.matr
onics.com
_p;=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- generous bsp;=C2-=C2
-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-
=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- href="http://www.matronics.com/contributio
n">http://www.matronics.com/c===============
=
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| From: | "Stuart Harner" <stuart(at)harnerfarm.net> |
| Subject: | new camera mount- version 3 |
Larry,
Nice video, and thanks for giving us that live in winter something to
look forward to.
It is interesting that the most stable spot you have found is at the far
forward point of the nose. One would think that the long moment arms on
the airframe would be the most sensitive to aircraft vibrations, wing
tips, tail, and nose, while the closer you got to the center of mass,
the more stable it would be.
You said that the camera was pointed down at about 13 degrees. Curious,
13 degrees from what? Level flight, ground stance, fuselage? Whatever
it is, it worked pretty well.
Single digits temperature and strong gusty winds in central ND today, so
just left with watching and dreaming.
Keep them coming!
Stuart
Firefly Serenity
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry
Cottrell
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 10:45 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: new camera mount- version 3
As you might recall, I had a bone spur removed from one of my feet. The
healing process has gone a bit better than the Doc thought it should. I
am not able to do any extended walking, but within reason, things are
fine.
I realize that most of you poor souls are experiencing Global warming at
its best. Apparently there isn't a large enough population here where I
live to adversely affect the climate, so we are having our usual nice
two weeks or so of great weather here in the West. Today was 61 degrees
with no wind. The wife is out of town for the weekend, so there was no
one to tell me that I shouldn't fly yet. You should look at today's
video and be reassured that even your shitty weather will also pass. I
have found that the only thing that stays the same is -every thing
changes.
The Virb camera that I have recently bought seemed a bit more difficult
to get good smooth video than the Drift that I had been using. The Virb
seems to have a bit clearer picture, and I do like the track and speed
feature on it as well. So I want to make it my main camera. I tried it
on the wing, and I have to hold it at a certain speed to keep the shake
and jello out of it. I put it back on the nose, and had the same
problem. The speed that the video was the least shaky at, was just a bit
too slow for comfortable "yanking and banking". The next best speed was
full throttle. Also not what I really wanted.
Having nothing to occupy my time these last few weeks other than ice
packs and TV, I formed the thought that the bar of Alum that I had fixed
to fit behind the pitot tube holder and the nose pf the pod, might be
contributing to the shakes. So this morning I dug out my virb box and
got one of the sticky pads that they had for a helmet mount. I stuck it
on the nose pod, fixed up a safety wire just in case, and tried my best
to wait the recommended 24 hours for the base to be "firmly" attached.
Well, I did my best, but if I was ever going to have "patients", I would
have been a Doctor. I finally couldn't stand it any longer and rolled
the plane out.
I could have stuck it out of sight under the nose pod, if I had thought
of it before, but I don't mind it up on top, although I do think it is
raising hell with my "yarn" slip indicator.
The video is the most steady through out the full throttle range that I
have found yet, and of course I had a great time. Hang in there guys,
better times are coming.
https://vimeo.com/119720660 password- owyheeflyer
Larry
--
If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email
address before sending.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Patrick Ladd <patrickjladd(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: new camera mount- version 3 |
Hi Tony
<<,I lost two good friends on a training flight about 3 weeks ago>>
That is really rough. Commiserations. I lost two friends as well, many
years ago. I had just started gliding, probably not solo. A friend who
joined the club with me was with an instructor practicing `cable
breaks`. If you have no gliding experience that is the equivalent of
engine failure on take off. The last thing anyone heard was the
instructor saying `Now, safety above all things`. The glider took off
and at around 400ft the instructor disconnected the cable. The runway
was a mile and a quarter and used by Stirling and Horsa glider
combination during the war so the pilot had only to put his nose down,
maintain speed and land. He elected to return to the launch point where
we expected him to do a down wind landing as there was plenty of room.
At around 100feet he tried to turn back into wind. Didn`t get his bank
steep enough and his inside wing stalled and he spun in. Killed
instantly. The instructor died a couple of days later. Cause of the
accident was never established. we assumed that the P2 froze on the
controls and the instructor could not over ride him. Very sad and made
worse as it was Boxing Day.
Thanks for the urging to have a go at the Spitfire flight. I must plan
a campaign and start leaving posts encouraging me to to fly around the
house.
Cheers
Pat
From: Tony &Heather Oldman
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: new camera mount- version 3
Then go for it Pat. If it dosnt put you in the soup kitchen then it will
be worth every penny,I lost two good friends on a training flight about
3 weeks ago. The instructor on that flight tought me to fly over 20
years ago. Jack was 86 years young had flown most things and had many
aviation awards for his years of instruction and dedication to
aviation,his pilots license was 75 years old at the time of the
accident, . His teachings included aviation is fun, go have safe fun
.The student on that flight was a senior police officer ,he loved to fly
.. I had taken him for a flight in the Kolb about 3 weeks before the
accident ,he loved it. Who could not like the way a Kolb flys ?
Not trying to be morbid , just saying do it while you are able, none of
us know what is around the corner , So if you have the means go do it. I
expect a debrief.
Regards
Downunder
MK111c and not flying enough
On Monday, 16 February 2015 11:45 PM, Patrick Ladd
wrote:
Hi Larry,
welcome back. Glad that your operation is sorting itself out more
quickly than expected. Your camera mount seems perfect. It even dealt
with the vibration when you were on the ground. Wx in the UK has been
pretty good. In the south we have had not winter yet although Scotland
and the North of England have had some snow. Nothing that persisted
beyond a couple of days. Overcast and rain today but we have had several
long periods of nil wind and good flying weather with a large high
pressure area over us.
No flying for me any more I am afraid although i am trying to convince
myself that my bank book would stand a half hour flight in a Spitfire.
I flew a Mustang for an hour in Kissimmee many years ago and I have
managed to get into a couple of T6`s and a couple of jets over the years
and I would dearly love to add the Spitfire. Heigh Ho. Pat
http://forums.matronics.com
_p; generous bsp;
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ronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-L
ist
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ronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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| Subject: | Re: new camera mount- version 3 |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 7:53 AM, Stuart Harner
wrote:
> Larry,
>
>
> Nice video, and thanks for giving us that live in winter something to look
> forward to.
>
>
> It is interesting that the most stable spot you have found is at the far
> forward point of the nose. One would think that the long moment arms on the
> airframe would be the most sensitive to aircraft vibrations, wing tips,
> tail, and nose, while the closer you got to the center of mass, the more
> stable it would be.
>
>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> What causes the "Jello" and other problems is the vibration. The closer to
> the engine the more you get. There are certain rpm ranges that the harmonic
> vibrations dampen out. The nose pod had the least amount of vibration.
>
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> You said that the camera was pointed down at about 13 degrees. Curious, 13
> degrees from what? Level flight, ground stance, fuselage? Whatever it is,
> it worked pretty well.
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
It was level with the ground. The Elite has a feature that shows when it is
level side to side and forward and aft. As well as the number of degrees it
is off.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Single digits temperature and strong gusty winds in central ND today, so
> just left with watching and dreaming.
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
Hang in there it will get there.
Larry
>
>
> Keep them coming!
>
>
> Stuart
>
> Firefly Serenity
>
>
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| From: | kinne russ <russk50(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: new camera mount- version 3 |
Pat - go for it, ole friend! I=99ll be right behind you, jealous
as hell
Fair winds,
Russ
> On Feb 16, 2015, at 5:41 AM, Patrick Ladd
wrote:
>
> Hi Larry,
> welcome back. Glad that your operation is sorting itself out more
quickly than expected. Your camera mount seems perfect. It even dealt
with the vibration when you were on the ground. Wx in the UK has been
pretty good. In the south we have had not winter yet although Scotland
and the North of England have had some snow. Nothing that persisted
beyond a couple of days. Overcast and rain today but we have had several
long periods of nil wind and good flying weather with a large high
pressure area over us.
> No flying for me any more I am afraid although i am trying to convince
myself that my bank book would stand a half hour flight in a Spitfire.
I flew a Mustang for an hour in Kissimmee many years ago and I have
managed to get into a couple of T6`s and a couple of jets over the years
and I would dearly love to add the Spitfire. Heigh Ho. Pat
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| Subject: | Re: new camera mount- version 3 |
| From: | Rick Neilsen <neilsenrm(at)gmail.com> |
Larry
Again great Video. The mount looks great. I need to start working on
narration and adding music. It gives your videos a professional touch.
My drift has those adhesive mounts I have used them on my Kayak a few times
this winter. They work well on low vibration things. On my Kolb I found
that a layer of duck tape between that two parts of their quick mount keeps
the camera from bouncing around in flight. I personally like the effect of
seeing part of the plane in the video. The problem has been finding a place
where I can mount the camera pointing forward and not filling half the
video with airplane. The lens has a real wide angle.
I have a heel spur. I have so far been able to put off the problem with a
different foot bed in me shoes
Rick Neilsen
Redive VW powered MKIIIC
On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 11:45 PM, Larry Cottrell
wrote:
> As you might recall, I had a bone spur removed from one of my feet. The
> healing process has gone a bit better than the Doc thought it should. I am
> not able to do any extended walking, but within reason, things are fine.
>
> I realize that most of you poor souls are experiencing Global warming at
> its best. Apparently there isn't a large enough population here where I
> live to adversely affect the climate, so we are having our usual nice two
> weeks or so of great weather here in the West. Today was 61 degrees with no
> wind. The wife is out of town for the weekend, so there was no one to tell
> me that I shouldn't fly yet. You should look at today's video and be
> reassured that even your shitty weather will also pass. I have found that
> the only thing that stays the same is -every thing changes.
>
> The Virb camera that I have recently bought seemed a bit more difficult
> to get good smooth video than the Drift that I had been using. The Virb
> seems to have a bit clearer picture, and I do like the track and speed
> feature on it as well. So I want to make it my main camera. I tried it on
> the wing, and I have to hold it at a certain speed to keep the shake and
> jello out of it. I put it back on the nose, and had the same problem. The
> speed that the video was the least shaky at, was just a bit too slow for
> comfortable "yanking and banking". The next best speed was full throttle.
> Also not what I really wanted.
>
> Having nothing to occupy my time these last few weeks other than ice packs
> and TV, I formed the thought that the bar of Alum that I had fixed to fit
> behind the pitot tube holder and the nose pf the pod, might be
> contributing to the shakes. So this morning I dug out my virb box and got
> one of the sticky pads that they had for a helmet mount. I stuck it on the
> nose pod, fixed up a safety wire just in case, and tried my best to wait
> the recommended 24 hours for the base to be "firmly" attached. Well, I did
> my best, but if I was ever going to have "patients", I would have been a
> Doctor. I finally couldn't stand it any longer and rolled the plane out.
>
> I could have stuck it out of sight under the nose pod, if I had thought of
> it before, but I don't mind it up on top, although I do think it is raising
> hell with my "yarn" slip indicator.
>
> The video is the most steady through out the full throttle range that I
> have found yet, and of course I had a great time. Hang in there guys,
> better times are coming.
>
> https://vimeo.com/119720660
>
> password- owyheeflyer
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| Subject: | Re: new camera mount- version 3 |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
Rick,
The problem with having some of the plane in the video is that there is
really nowhere that you can put it far enough back to do that other than on
the wing, that doesn't rattle and roll. The drift has a ?tripod screw" in
the bottom that allows one to utilize shorter connection links. I had some
success with earlier cameras with drilling a hole in the lexan windshield
and mounting it there. That left most of the nose in the picture, and I
kind of liked that, but each camera is different in the way that it handles
harmonic vibration. The drift is pretty good, but its length will require a
rather long arm, and will thus intensify the vibration. You can always try.
What do you have to loose, after all you only have to fly.
The bone spur in my foot was about 3/4 inch long and it was on the facing
part of my heel. When I stepped down it was digging into the pad that
covers the bottom of your foot. A shot of cortizone would take care of it
for a couple of months, but it was still digging a groove in the pad. I do
a fair amount of walking in the summer and fall, so I decided to get rid of
it during the slack time of the winter. I can only take two cortizone shots
at the most any way. This from experience. You actually spend two weeks on
crutches, and then it is just a bit weak for a while. The Dr says "all
discomfort goes away at 4 months, just like clockwork." I actually had
little in the way of pain. They gave me a bottle of pain pills, and I took
three, and actually needed none.
Looking forward to some of your videos.
Larry
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 11:45 AM, Rick Neilsen wrote:
> Larry
>
> Again great Video. The mount looks great. I need to start working on
> narration and adding music. It gives your videos a professional touch.
>
> My drift has those adhesive mounts I have used them on my Kayak a few
> times this winter. They work well on low vibration things. On my Kolb I
> found that a layer of duck tape between that two parts of their quick mount
> keeps the camera from bouncing around in flight. I personally like the
> effect of seeing part of the plane in the video. The problem has been
> finding a place where I can mount the camera pointing forward and not
> filling half the video with airplane. The lens has a real wide angle.
>
> I have a heel spur. I have so far been able to put off the problem with a
> different foot bed in me shoes
>
> Rick Neilsen
> Redive VW powered MKIIIC
>
> On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 11:45 PM, Larry Cottrell
> wrote:
>
>> As you might recall, I had a bone spur removed from one of my feet. The
>> healing process has gone a bit better than the Doc thought it should. I am
>> not able to do any extended walking, but within reason, things are fine.
>>
>> I realize that most of you poor souls are experiencing Global warming at
>> its best. Apparently there isn't a large enough population here where I
>> live to adversely affect the climate, so we are having our usual nice two
>> weeks or so of great weather here in the West. Today was 61 degrees with no
>> wind. The wife is out of town for the weekend, so there was no one to tell
>> me that I shouldn't fly yet. You should look at today's video and be
>> reassured that even your shitty weather will also pass. I have found that
>> the only thing that stays the same is -every thing changes.
>>
>> The Virb camera that I have recently bought seemed a bit more difficult
>> to get good smooth video than the Drift that I had been using. The Virb
>> seems to have a bit clearer picture, and I do like the track and speed
>> feature on it as well. So I want to make it my main camera. I tried it on
>> the wing, and I have to hold it at a certain speed to keep the shake and
>> jello out of it. I put it back on the nose, and had the same problem. The
>> speed that the video was the least shaky at, was just a bit too slow for
>> comfortable "yanking and banking". The next best speed was full throttle.
>> Also not what I really wanted.
>>
>> Having nothing to occupy my time these last few weeks other than ice
>> packs and TV, I formed the thought that the bar of Alum that I had fixed to
>> fit behind the pitot tube holder and the nose pf the pod, might be
>> contributing to the shakes. So this morning I dug out my virb box and
>> got one of the sticky pads that they had for a helmet mount. I stuck it on
>> the nose pod, fixed up a safety wire just in case, and tried my best to
>> wait the recommended 24 hours for the base to be "firmly" attached. Well, I
>> did my best, but if I was ever going to have "patients", I would have been
>> a Doctor. I finally couldn't stand it any longer and rolled the plane out.
>>
>> I could have stuck it out of sight under the nose pod, if I had thought
>> of it before, but I don't mind it up on top, although I do think it is
>> raising hell with my "yarn" slip indicator.
>>
>> The video is the most steady through out the full throttle range that I
>> have found yet, and of course I had a great time. Hang in there guys,
>> better times are coming.
>>
>> https://vimeo.com/119720660
>>
>> password- owyheeflyer
>>
>> Larry
>>
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| Subject: | Re: new camera mount- version 3 |
| From: | "west1m" <west1m(at)hotmail.com> |
Great Video Larry!
Your 61 degrees sounds great, good to watch while still sitting inside here in
Minnesota as it is still -2 outside.
--------
West1m
Hastings, MN
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| From: | "KIRBY, DENNIS T GS-13 USAF AFMC AFNWC/ENS" <dennis.kirby.3(at)us.af.mil> |
| Subject: | JBM - Inferior Product, Poor Customer Support |
Kolb Friends -
This post serves as an advisory to alert you of problems that I encountered with
engine parts from JBM Enterprises, and the subsequent backlash I experienced
with that company when I tried to talk to them about it. BOTTOM LINE: Avoid
these guys at all cost!
Rotax recommends replacing the rubber carb sockets every 5 years for the 912 engine.
I was a couple years past due, so I decided to replace them even though
the originals still looked OK. After seeing one or two generally favorable posts
on this List recommending JBM, I went ahead and ordered a pair of new carb
sockets from them two years ago. What seemed favorable at the time was their
cost - $76 each, versus $104 for the genuine Rotax part.
In the past 2 years, I've flown about 100 hours on my Mark-3. When I was doing
my annual inspection last month, I noticed that one of the carb sockets was beginning
to split. The split was NOT next to the clamp, where splits often occur
due to overtightening. When I installed it, I was careful to follow the installation
instructions precisely, and not over- or under-tighten the clamps.
Rather, the split occurred at the junction where the flange meets the cylindrical
rubber part - clearly a premature failure of either the material or the
manufacturing process.
I e-mailed the company, explained the problem, and asked if they would replace
the part for me. I made it clear that I did not question the integrity of the
company, but simply accepted that an occasional flawed part could find its way
out the door. They refused, citing how their warranty only covered defective
parts that are discovered upon receipt of the part.
Accepting that, I asked if they could at least provide a replacement at a discounted
price for me. Again they said no, so I figured that I'd just need to order
a new one at the full price. I ordered the replacement, and asked if they
might consider at least dropping the $7 shipping charge. JBM's response shocked
me. They questioned why I still wanted to order anything from them if I thought
their products were of inferior quality (even though I never said that),
and then they CANCELLED MY ORDER!
Needless to say, I was not going to continue that dialogue. I ordered the genuine
Rotax part from Lockwood and have moved on. Even though I was willing to
give them another chance by purchasing a replacement for a part that had failed,
JBM's blatant disregard for any sort of Customer Service was made very clear
to me. Other customers may have had different experiences, but I know that
I shall never again order from, nor recommend them to anyone.
If this saves even one fellow Light Sport pilot from having the same bad experience
I had, then this was worth it.
Fly safely -
Dennis Kirby
Kolb Mark-3 / 912ul
Sandia Park, New Mexico
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | JBM - Inferior Product, Poor Customer Support |
I've purchased SS exhaust springs for the Titan system and carb boots.
Never had any dialogue with them though. Both products have been on my
MKIII for several years and continue to be serviceable.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
Kolb Friends -
This post serves as an advisory to alert you of problems that I encountered
with engine parts from JBM Enterprises, and the subsequent backlash I
experienced with that company when I tried to talk to them about it. BOTTOM
LINE: Avoid these guys at all cost!
Needless to say, I was not going to continue that dialogue. I ordered the
genuine Rotax part from Lockwood and have moved on. Even though I was
willing to give them another chance by purchasing a replacement for a part
that had failed, JBM's blatant disregard for any sort of Customer Service
was made very clear to me. Other customers may have had different
experiences, but I know that I shall never again order from, nor recommend
them to anyone.
If this saves even one fellow Light Sport pilot from having the same bad
experience I had, then this was worth it.
Fly safely -
Dennis Kirby
Kolb Mark-3 / 912ul
Sandia Park, New Mexico
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| From: | Stephen Spence <sspence801(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | Re: JBM - Inferior Product, Poor Customer Support |
Dennis:
Thanks for the heads-up on this company. I plan to change the carb socks
along with other rubber parts at this year's annual. I will not do business with
JBM in light of your experience. I will also pass your words on to members
of the Rans list.
Steve Spence
Auburn Hills, MI
former Mk3X owner
current S
On Thursday, February 19, 2015 3:40 PM, John Hauck wrote:
I've purchased SS exhaust springs for the Titan system and carb boots.
Never had any dialogue with them though. Both products have been on my
MKIII for several years and continue to be serviceable.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
Kolb Friends -
This post serves as an advisory to alert you of problems that I encountered
with engine parts from JBM Enterprises, and the subsequent backlash I
experienced with that company when I tried to talk to them about it. BOTTOM
LINE: Avoid these guys at all cost!
Needless to say, I was not going to continue that dialogue. I ordered the
genuine Rotax part from Lockwood and have moved on. Even though I was
willing to give them another chance by purchasing a replacement for a part
that had failed, JBM's blatant disregard for any sort of Customer Service
was made very clear to me. Other customers may have had different
experiences, but I know that I shall never again order from, nor recommend
them to anyone.
If this saves even one fellow Light Sport pilot from having the same bad
experience I had, then this was worth it.
Fly safely -
Dennis Kirby
Kolb Mark-3 / 912ul
Sandia Park, New Mexico
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | JBM - Inferior Product, Poor Customer Support |
Whoa!
Dennis has a problem with a company that has been in business for a good
while. Dennis' is the first complaint about this company that I am aware
of.
Steve changes his mind, based on Dennis' one complaint, will not do business
with JBM and is going to pass the word to the members of the RANS List???
All this based on one complaint?
If that is how we do business I would have dropped Kolb 31 years ago when I
was building my Ultrastar.
I have been doing business with JBM for a long time. Currently flying with
JBM carb boots and SS exhaust springs on my 912ULS.
Maybe we need to back off and take a closer look at the situation before we
try to kill a man's business that seems, for the most part, to be providing
customers like me good products.
Just my own personal opinion folks.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama - Still working on my first cup of coffee, waiting for
Spring, and Sun and Fun 2015.
Dennis:
Thanks for the heads-up on this company. I plan to change the carb
socks along with other rubber parts at this year's annual. I will not do
business with JBM in light of your experience. I will also pass your words
on to members of the Rans list.
Steve Spence
Auburn Hills, MI
former Mk3X owner
current S
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| Subject: | Re: JBM - Inferior Product, Poor Customer Support |
| From: | "Richard Pike" <thegreybaron(at)charter.net> |
I bought carb boots from JBM several years ago and they are still doing good, they
have some minuscule cracks in their centers, but nothing to worry about. However
I do coat all my rubber parts with dielectric grease at installation and
at each annual condition inspection. I am very satisfied with JBM parts and
will continue to use them.
--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
"Living for your own pleasure is the least pleasurable thing a man can do.
If his neighbors don't kill him in disgust he will die slowly of boredom and
powerlessness." - Joy Davidman
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=438539#438539
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| From: | TheWanderingWench <thewanderingwench(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: JBM - Inferior Product, Poor Customer Support |
First, a disclaimer: I have no doubt that Dennis experienced what he says h
e experienced with JBM. I know Dennis and have found him to be an honorable
man...and very meticulous when it comes to his flying addiction.
I just want to say that I have been using JBM carb boots and miscellaneous
other small parts for some time, and have never had any problem with either
the items or with JBM. Steve - if you choose to never use JBM, that's one
thing. But I whole-heartedly agree with John that to start warning others o
ff a company based on one complaint - even if it is totally valid - is hard
to justify.
Arty TrostSandy, Oregon
=C2-www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com/uladventure2009.htm
"Life's a daring adventure or nothing"
Helen Keller
"I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death."
From: John Hauck <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2015 6:39 AM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: JBM - Inferior Product, Poor Customer Support
Whoa! =C2-Dennis has a problem with a company that h
as been in business for a good while.=C2- Dennis' is the first complaint
about this company that I am aware of. =C2-Steve changes his mind, based
on Dennis' one complaint, will not do business with JBM and is going to pas
s the word to the members of the RANS List??? =C2-All this based on one c
omplaint? =C2-If that is how we do business I would have dropped Kolb 31
years ago when I was building my Ultrastar. =C2-I have been doing busines
s with JBM for a long time.=C2- Currently flying with JBM carb boots and
SS exhaust springs on my 912ULS. =C2-Maybe we need to back off and take a
closer look at the situation before we try to kill a man's business that s
eems, for the most part, to be providing customers like me good products.
=C2-Just my own personal opinion folks. =C2-john hmkIIITitus, Alabama -
Still working on my first cup of coffee, waiting for Spring, and Sun and F
un 2015. =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- Dennis: =C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-
Thanks for the heads-up on this company.=C2- I plan to change the carb s
ocks along with other rubber parts at this year's annual.=C2- I will not
do business with JBM in light of your experience.=C2- I will also pass yo
ur words on to members of the Rans list. =C2-Steve SpenceAuburn Hills, MI
former Mk3X ownercurrent S =C2-
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| Subject: | Part 103 legal Firestar? |
| From: | "Richard Pike" <thegreybaron(at)charter.net> |
Spent quite a while looking through the archives tonight, and it is starting to
look sort of doubtful, but I thought I'd ask anyway: does anybody, anywhere,
know of a Firestar of any vintage that ever actually made the 254 pound weight
limit?
The reason is that a local pilot has a very early model with a wrecked cage and
a good everything else that can be had at a good price, and I am considering
starting a new project...
Thanks.
--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
"Living for your own pleasure is the least pleasurable thing a man can do.
If his neighbors don't kill him in disgust he will die slowly of boredom and
powerlessness." - Joy Davidman
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=438543#438543
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| Subject: | Re: Part 103 legal Firestar? |
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| Subject: | MK III Engine Options |
| From: | "ron.dace(at)yahoo.com" <ron.dace(at)yahoo.com> |
I would be interested to know the distribution of engines installed on MK III
classic and xtra airplanes and the pros and cons of each. Would there be a common
source for such information?
100 hp 912:
80 hp 912:
582:
Jab 2200:
Jab 3300:
VW:
Suzuki:
Others?
Reason for asking, I have a MK III Xtra airframe and am trying to decide what to
do about an engine. I have a Suzuki 1.3 with a Raven on the shelf but am loosing
confidence in it as an option (lack of support, complexity of the install,
etc).
--------
"But all the knowledge in the world is of no use to fools. And it's a long
road out of Eden." - Eagles
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| Subject: | Re: JBM - Inferior Product, Poor Customer Support |
| From: | "alienwes" <elliott.wesley(at)yahoo.com> |
Dennis has been on this forum for awhile. I have read his posts and they always
seem logical and without ill intentions. I agree that it should be reposted
on the Rans list. Maybe others will come forward with their experiences, hopefully
not and the guy he talked to is new or just had a lapse in judgement. But
by documenting his experience people have something to reference if they also
have a bad experience. If those on this forum had the same experience as Dennis,
I am sure they would have posted it here.
--------
Wesley Elliott
Sport Pilot-PPC
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | MK III Engine Options |
Out of all those engines, to me, the best all around engine for the MKIII
would be the 912UL, based on reliability and economy.
Second best engine would be the 912ULS based on reliability and performance.
Reliability is the number one factor for me in choosing power for an
airplane, based on the environment we fly. We are not immune to gravity and
there are many times I don't have a safe forced landing area. The past 21
years and 3,300.0+ hours flying my MKIII with a 912 (didn't have a 912UL in
1994), a 912S (that was the designation when I bought that engine) and a
912ULS, I have had two engine failures and both were fuel contamination and
my fault, not the engines.
The first two engines were sold at approximately 1,200.0 and 1,300.0 hours,
both in excellent condition. The 912ULS has about 800.0 hours.
I have no knowledge of the distribution of engines installed on the MKIII.
The first engine I had on my MKIII was a 582. It seized at just over 200.0
hours.
I have no personal experience flying the Jabs or VW.
I'm guessing most folks don't power with the 912 series engines, going with
alternatives, is price.
There are not many VW, Suzuki, and BMW engines powering MKIII's.
The above info is off the top of my head, and my experience and opinion
only. If you don't fly a 912, please don't shoot me for my comments.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
-->
I would be interested to know the distribution of engines installed on MK
III classic and xtra airplanes and the pros and cons of each. Would there
be a common source for such information?
100 hp 912:
80 hp 912:
582:
Jab 2200:
Jab 3300:
VW:
Suzuki:
Others?
Reason for asking, I have a MK III Xtra airframe and am trying to decide
what to do about an engine. I have a Suzuki 1.3 with a Raven on the shelf
but am loosing confidence in it as an option (lack of support, complexity of
the install, etc).
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: MK III Engine Options |
| From: | "ron.dace(at)yahoo.com" <ron.dace(at)yahoo.com> |
> I'm guessing most folks don't power with the 912 series engines, going with
alternatives, is price.
Exactly, which is why I am looking. I will probably fly it in the 50 to 80 hour
a year range (based on my current habits with a 172). An under 10K option would
be optimal. If it cost more then a 912 would be worth considering. Buying
new is expensive, buying used is fraught with risk.
--------
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road out of Eden." - Eagles
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: MK III Engine Options |
I have known of many Kolbers buying used 912 engines. As far as I know, no
has gotten bit.
A good source for 912's is Ronnie Smith, South Mississippi Light Aircraft.
Google to get his number is interested.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 8:58 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: MK III Engine Options
-->
> I'm guessing most folks don't power with the 912 series engines, going
> with
alternatives, is price.
Exactly, which is why I am looking. I will probably fly it in the 50 to 80
hour a year range (based on my current habits with a 172). An under 10K
option would be optimal. If it cost more then a 912 would be worth
considering. Buying new is expensive, buying used is fraught with risk.
--------
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long road out of Eden." - Eagles
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| From: | Colin Hudson <colin.scott.hudson(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: MK III Engine Options |
I've got a Mark 3 X-tra. Although I think the 912 is a fantastic engine I prefer
my Jab 2200. It's very compatible to the 912 in price, performance and reliability.
The thing I prefer over the 912 is like a Continental, the Jabiru runs
directly off the crankshaft. Lower RPM and no gear reduction. I normally
cruise around 2700 RPM. They rate the engine at 80 HP but the book says it's
closer to 90. At max gross wt it will jump off the ground in 300' and climb
at 1500' per min. There's been some talk about Jabs having cooling problems if
they're not cowled right. In the open air pusher configuration of the Mark
3 I've had no problem with cooling.
Scott Hudson
N424AL
M3X-tra
Sent from my iPhone
> On Feb 21, 2015, at 8:45 AM, John Hauck wrote:
>
>
> Out of all those engines, to me, the best all around engine for the MKIII
> would be the 912UL, based on reliability and economy.
>
> Second best engine would be the 912ULS based on reliability and performance.
>
> Reliability is the number one factor for me in choosing power for an
> airplane, based on the environment we fly. We are not immune to gravity and
> there are many times I don't have a safe forced landing area. The past 21
> years and 3,300.0+ hours flying my MKIII with a 912 (didn't have a 912UL in
> 1994), a 912S (that was the designation when I bought that engine) and a
> 912ULS, I have had two engine failures and both were fuel contamination and
> my fault, not the engines.
>
> The first two engines were sold at approximately 1,200.0 and 1,300.0 hours,
> both in excellent condition. The 912ULS has about 800.0 hours.
>
> I have no knowledge of the distribution of engines installed on the MKIII.
>
> The first engine I had on my MKIII was a 582. It seized at just over 200.0
> hours.
>
> I have no personal experience flying the Jabs or VW.
>
> I'm guessing most folks don't power with the 912 series engines, going with
> alternatives, is price.
>
> There are not many VW, Suzuki, and BMW engines powering MKIII's.
>
> The above info is off the top of my head, and my experience and opinion
> only. If you don't fly a 912, please don't shoot me for my comments.
>
> john h
> mkIII
> Titus, Alabama
>
> -->
>
> I would be interested to know the distribution of engines installed on MK
> III classic and xtra airplanes and the pros and cons of each. Would there
> be a common source for such information?
>
> 100 hp 912:
> 80 hp 912:
> 582:
> Jab 2200:
> Jab 3300:
> VW:
> Suzuki:
> Others?
>
> Reason for asking, I have a MK III Xtra airframe and am trying to decide
> what to do about an engine. I have a Suzuki 1.3 with a Raven on the shelf
> but am loosing confidence in it as an option (lack of support, complexity of
> the install, etc).
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: MK III Engine Options |
| From: | "ron.dace(at)yahoo.com" <ron.dace(at)yahoo.com> |
> Jab 2200
Did you have to modify the mount? Do you have pics of your installation?
--------
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road out of Eden." - Eagles
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| Subject: | Re: MK III Engine Options |
| From: | Rick Neilsen <neilsenrm(at)gmail.com> |
If your pockets are deep enough the Rotax 912 is your best choice. Pick the
power and pay the price. I flew a bit with a guy that had a Jabiru on a
Kolbra and it was a bit under powered. Later I flew in a MKIIIC with a
Jabiru and it did quite well even over gross weight. I think prop selection
is critical to get good performance.
My first VW was a direct drive on my Kolb MKIIIC. The engine turned more HP
into noise than thrust. Cruise RPM was 3200 and takeoff 3600. Later
switched to a redrive VW and the performance difference was startling. For
the fist time I had to feed in power slowly to keep from nosing over. I
ended up cruising 10 MPH faster burning 1 GPH less fuel. The VW is a good
choice as a inexpensive option. The install is not for the faint of hart.
The accessories are the weak part on the engine so pick them carefully. I
seem to have the most problems with fuel pumps. I'm currently flying with
electric dual pumps in parallel. I have had my back up Facet pump fail and
a rotary primary pump warning me with electrical surges before I replaced
it.
Cooling can be a problem if you ask the engine to run too hard, but under
80HP it is fine. Ground handling is also a problem. Get in a long line for
take off and you will overheat the engine. I had one guy complaining that
he couldn't run full throttle for more than 5 minutes on the ground before
it over heated. You just can't do that.
Seems like I read that someone was concerned about the complexity of
installing a Raven engine. If that is a concern buy nothing but a Rotax
engine package.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 10:29 AM, Colin Hudson wrote:
> colin.scott.hudson(at)gmail.com>
>
> I've got a Mark 3 X-tra. Although I think the 912 is a fantastic engine I
> prefer my Jab 2200. It's very compatible to the 912 in price, performance
> and reliability. The thing I prefer over the 912 is like a Continental,
> the Jabiru runs directly off the crankshaft. Lower RPM and no gear
> reduction. I normally cruise around 2700 RPM. They rate the engine at 80
> HP but the book says it's closer to 90. At max gross wt it will jump off
> the ground in 300' and climb at 1500' per min. There's been some talk
> about Jabs having cooling problems if they're not cowled right. In the
> open air pusher configuration of the Mark 3 I've had no problem with
> cooling.
>
> Scott Hudson
> N424AL
> M3X-tra
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Feb 21, 2015, at 8:45 AM, John Hauck wrote:
> >
> >
> > Out of all those engines, to me, the best all around engine for the MKIII
> > would be the 912UL, based on reliability and economy.
> >
> > Second best engine would be the 912ULS based on reliability and
> performance.
> >
> > Reliability is the number one factor for me in choosing power for an
> > airplane, based on the environment we fly. We are not immune to gravity
> and
> > there are many times I don't have a safe forced landing area. The past
> 21
> > years and 3,300.0+ hours flying my MKIII with a 912 (didn't have a 912UL
> in
> > 1994), a 912S (that was the designation when I bought that engine) and a
> > 912ULS, I have had two engine failures and both were fuel contamination
> and
> > my fault, not the engines.
> >
> > The first two engines were sold at approximately 1,200.0 and 1,300.0
> hours,
> > both in excellent condition. The 912ULS has about 800.0 hours.
> >
> > I have no knowledge of the distribution of engines installed on the
> MKIII.
> >
> > The first engine I had on my MKIII was a 582. It seized at just over
> 200.0
> > hours.
> >
> > I have no personal experience flying the Jabs or VW.
> >
> > I'm guessing most folks don't power with the 912 series engines, going
> with
> > alternatives, is price.
> >
> > There are not many VW, Suzuki, and BMW engines powering MKIII's.
> >
> > The above info is off the top of my head, and my experience and opinion
> > only. If you don't fly a 912, please don't shoot me for my comments.
> >
> > john h
> > mkIII
> > Titus, Alabama
> >
> > -->
> >
> > I would be interested to know the distribution of engines installed on
> MK
> > III classic and xtra airplanes and the pros and cons of each. Would
> there
> > be a common source for such information?
> >
> > 100 hp 912:
> > 80 hp 912:
> > 582:
> > Jab 2200:
> > Jab 3300:
> > VW:
> > Suzuki:
> > Others?
> >
> > Reason for asking, I have a MK III Xtra airframe and am trying to decide
> > what to do about an engine. I have a Suzuki 1.3 with a Raven on the
> shelf
> > but am loosing confidence in it as an option (lack of support,
> complexity of
> > the install, etc).
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Part 103 legal Firestar? |
| From: | "Tony Vitiello" <tony(at)tgrankin.com> |
My friend has one built stock with a 447. When he bought it a few years ago he
weighed it with the small stock wheels and it weighed exactly 254. He has since
added slightly larger wheels but apparently can be done. If you were to go a
few pounds over, how would anyone know?
--------
Tony Vitiello
St. Louis, MO
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| Subject: | Re: MK III Engine Options |
| From: | "sfrIII" <sfr3(at)speedyquick.net> |
Hi all! Sam here in Idaho. I am currently building a MKIII Extra.
My engine of choice is a converted Corvair Engine that I built for a
different project. There are several pros and cons but the main reason
for using a Corvair is price.
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | MK III Engine Options |
First and foremost, the 912 series is reliable first, has consistent
power second, is not plagued with cooling problems, and is a super
simple engine with extremely low maintenance.
The down side is the price of the engine and the parts, but there is
used stuff out there if one is willing to look for it.
4 gph at 80 mph in a MKIII ain't bad with the 912UL and 5 gph at 80 with
a 912ULS. Also the 80 runs on 87 and the 100 runs on no less than 91
octane.
I have had 5 engine outs and forced landings in my mkIII:
-Ran out of gas in the mountains north of North Wilkesboro, NC, 10
minutes or less from the airport. 582 would not run on air alone.
-Air filter, a double K&N on the 582, went AWOL and through a GSC 3
blade wooden prop. All 3 blades impacted the tail boom in the same
place, bending it a few degrees out of column. Slung the carbs out of
the "Rotax" sockets ;-) and the starter out of the aluminum bell
housing. mkIII won't fly without prop blades, not for very long, and
the 582 won't run unless carbs are installed in the sockets.
-582 seized transitioning from takeoff and climb to cruise power.
Solution: Get a 912 (they didn't have but one version of the engine in
1993).
-Water and contamination in fuel. 912UL runs better on straight 87
octane.
-Clogged fuel filter on same 912UL. Fuel will not pass through a
completely blocked fuel filter. Do not be the first to get fuel from a
new 1,000 gal fuel tank with new hose and nozzle that has not been
flushed first. Flushing a new system into a tiny fuel filter will clog
it completely.
The above indicates one out of four engine outs were not pilot's fault.
Pilot need to get his head out of his ___. Well, maybe I have. The
last engine out was June 1994, just prior to my first flight to Alaska.
Again of primary importance to me in engine selection is reliability.
If my hobby was two dimensional and not three dimensional, I'd have a
Kubota diesel pushing it.
You get what you pay for, and you didn't pay for my opinion. So you're
even.
john h
mkIII - 3,350.7 hours
912ULS - 782.2 hours
Titus, Alabama
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Neilsen
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MK III Engine Options
If your pockets are deep enough the Rotax 912 is your best choice. Pick
the power and pay the price. I flew a bit with a guy that had a Jabiru
on a Kolbra and it was a bit under powered. Later I flew in a MKIIIC
with a Jabiru and it did quite well even over gross weight. I think prop
selection is critical to get good performance.
My first VW was a direct drive on my Kolb MKIIIC. The engine turned more
HP into noise than thrust. Cruise RPM was 3200 and takeoff 3600. Later
switched to a redrive VW and the performance difference was startling.
For the fist time I had to feed in power slowly to keep from nosing
over. I ended up cruising 10 MPH faster burning 1 GPH less fuel. The VW
is a good choice as a inexpensive option. The install is not for the
faint of hart. The accessories are the weak part on the engine so pick
them carefully. I seem to have the most problems with fuel pumps. I'm
currently flying with electric dual pumps in parallel. I have had my
back up Facet pump fail and a rotary primary pump warning me with
electrical surges before I replaced it.
Cooling can be a problem if you ask the engine to run too hard, but
under 80HP it is fine. Ground handling is also a problem. Get in a long
line for take off and you will overheat the engine. I had one guy
complaining that he couldn't run full throttle for more than 5 minutes
on the ground before it over heated. You just can't do that.
Seems like I read that someone was concerned about the complexity of
installing a Raven engine. If that is a concern buy nothing but a Rotax
engine package.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 10:29 AM, Colin Hudson
wrote:
I've got a Mark 3 X-tra. Although I think the 912 is a fantastic engine
I prefer my Jab 2200. It's very compatible to the 912 in price,
performance and reliability. The thing I prefer over the 912 is like a
Continental, the Jabiru runs directly off the crankshaft. Lower RPM and
no gear reduction. I normally cruise around 2700 RPM. They rate the
engine at 80 HP but the book says it's closer to 90. At max gross wt it
will jump off the ground in 300' and climb at 1500' per min. There's
been some talk about Jabs having cooling problems if they're not cowled
right. In the open air pusher configuration of the Mark 3 I've had no
problem with cooling.
Scott Hudson
N424AL
M3X-tra
Sent from my iPhone
> On Feb 21, 2015, at 8:45 AM, John Hauck wrote:
>
>
> Out of all those engines, to me, the best all around engine for the
MKIII
> would be the 912UL, based on reliability and economy.
>
> Second best engine would be the 912ULS based on reliability and
performance.
>
> Reliability is the number one factor for me in choosing power for an
> airplane, based on the environment we fly. We are not immune to
gravity and
> there are many times I don't have a safe forced landing area. The
past 21
> years and 3,300.0+ hours flying my MKIII with a 912 (didn't have a
912UL in
> 1994), a 912S (that was the designation when I bought that engine) and
a
> 912ULS, I have had two engine failures and both were fuel
contamination and
> my fault, not the engines.
>
> The first two engines were sold at approximately 1,200.0 and 1,300.0
hours,
> both in excellent condition. The 912ULS has about 800.0 hours.
>
> I have no knowledge of the distribution of engines installed on the
MKIII.
>
> The first engine I had on my MKIII was a 582. It seized at just over
200.0
> hours.
>
> I have no personal experience flying the Jabs or VW.
>
> I'm guessing most folks don't power with the 912 series engines, going
with
> alternatives, is price.
>
> There are not many VW, Suzuki, and BMW engines powering MKIII's.
>
> The above info is off the top of my head, and my experience and
opinion
> only. If you don't fly a 912, please don't shoot me for my comments.
>
> john h
> mkIII
> Titus, Alabama
>
> -->
>
> I would be interested to know the distribution of engines installed
on MK
> III classic and xtra airplanes and the pros and cons of each. Would
there
> be a common source for such information?
>
> 100 hp 912:
> 80 hp 912:
> 582:
> Jab 2200:
> Jab 3300:
> VW:
> Suzuki:
> Others?
>
> Reason for asking, I have a MK III Xtra airframe and am trying to
decide
> what to do about an engine. I have a Suzuki 1.3 with a Raven on the
shelf
> but am loosing confidence in it as an option (lack of support,
complexity of
> the install, etc).
>
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| Subject: | Re: MK III Engine Options |
| From: | "ron.dace(at)yahoo.com" <ron.dace(at)yahoo.com> |
@sfrIII - Corvair is a lot of engine. Do you know if there are other MK III's
flying with one?
@John Hauck - I would love to have a 912 and will keep that option open as my research
continues. That was the engine that was originally on the my Mk III airframe.
The owner/builder couldn't sell the plane intact so he parted it out
and sold the engine first.
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| From: | Herb <Herbgh(at)nctc.com> |
| Subject: | Re: MK III Engine Options |
you tube pics of Mike Richardson in his MkIII with BMW engine.... Last
I knew he would sell it with or without the engine...
I think that is the most telling thing..."with or without"....most
people shy away from non standard engine installations on Kolbs.. and
for that matter most other planes... no matter how well they are
engineered...and Mike did a super job...excellent build and very good
adaptation on the engine...Herb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KGLy1FCWVU
> Engine seekers,
>
> Have any of you considered the engine from a Honda ST1100 motorcycle?
> It's a V4 and runs sweeter than any BMW I've owned. I put 129,000
> miles on my 2000 ST, and I've got about 180,000 miles on Beemers, both
> R model airheads an K model bricks. The R is better than the K but the
> ST. is sweeter than either of them.
>
> And you can buy one used for five hundred bucks!! Great engine, ask
> Don Gheradini, the Honda Motors engineer who built the FlagFly I flew.
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: "ron.dace(at)yahoo.com"
> Date:02/21/2015 9:37 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: MK III Engine Options
>
>
>
> @sfrIII - Corvair is a lot of engine. Do you know if there are other
> MK III's flying with one?
>
> @John Hauck - I would love to have a 912 and will keep that option
> open as my research continues. That was the engine that was
> originally on the my Mk III airframe. The owner/builder couldn't sell
> the plane intact so he parted it out and sold the engine first.
>
> --------
> "But all the knowledge in the world is of no use to fools. And
> it's a long road out of Eden." - Eagles
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=438565#438565
>
>
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: MK III Engine Options |
Rick:
What engine were you flying on the 1280 lb MKIIIX?
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard
Girard
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: MK III Engine Options
Sfrill, Great looking engine, but you need to consider its weight.
Putting a 200 lb.+ engine in a MkIIIX reduces it to a single passenger
airplane. I've flown the IIIX at 1280 lb. Very poor performance. My
peronal recommendation is to not fly it at greater than 1100 lb. You
also need to consider the strength of the rear portion of the fuselage
truss. The MkIII was designed as a +4g airframe. Doubling the design
engine weight seriously compromises the aircraft's designed strength
margin.
Rick Girard
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| From: | Gary Aman <zeprep251(at)aol.com> |
With history and performance in mind the Rotax has it. For unequaled expense and
basic cost it also has it. Gear box issues starter and sprague clutch and fuel
pumps have been Rotax's problems and my friends have spent thousands repairing
them on the S models especially
On the Kolbs, a flat four is most practical,in cowled aircraft,the Viking Hondas
are a great alternative at fractions on the cost. The D motor and the new
V 4 are unproven but promising. I could maintain a 470 continental for less
than a 912 uls.
Sent from my iPhone
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| From: | Gary Aman <zeprep251(at)aol.com> |
Only 2 of us in our group are flying Jabiru's. One , a 3300 has fought heat and
carb issues in a 601xlb. My own 2200 early serial#1295 solid lifter has been
pretty good so far, nothing but routine maintainence caps rotors plugs but it
only has 930 hrs so not much history,but I believe a lot of engine issues are
owner induced. Just my 2 cents worth
Sent from my iPhone
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| From: | william sullivan <williamtsullivan(at)att.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Part 103 legal Firestar? |
Richard: i have an original 5 rib Firestar with a 447. Wrecked at least a couple
of times- once rolled over when a tie down broke, and the other time when I
rolled it on landing. I am very confident it can be completed as a 103. Mine
has a main fuselage tube that is a foot shorter than what I was told is normal,
and because I have a BRS, my weight allowance is 278. The chute doesn't actually
weigh that, so it gives a couple of pounds to play with. Somebody on the
List has one where he left the nose cone off, and all of the heavy instruments.
No brakes, and I don't know what he has for wheels. I have seen video of it
flying. Following Jack Hart's guidelines, I think you could come in well under
the weight limit. If I ever get to throw some money at mine, I think I can come
in around 270.
Bill Sullivan
Windsor Locks, Ct.
Original FS, 447
--------------------------------------------
On Fri, 2/20/15, Richard Pike wrote:
Subject: Kolb-List: Part 103 legal Firestar?
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Friday, February 20, 2015, 11:54 PM
"Richard Pike"
Spent quite a while looking through the archives tonight,
and it is starting to look sort of doubtful, but I thought
I'd ask anyway: does anybody, anywhere, know of a Firestar
of any vintage that ever actually made the 254 pound weight
limit?
The reason is that a local pilot has a very early model with
a wrecked cage and a good everything else that can be had at
a good price, and I am considering starting a new
project...
Thanks.
--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
"Living for your own pleasure is the least
pleasurable thing a man can do. If his neighbors don't kill
him in disgust he will die slowly of boredom and
powerlessness." - Joy Davidman
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| Subject: | Part 103 legal Firestar? |
| From: | Robert Laird <rlaird(at)cavediver.com> |
On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 10:59 AM, william sullivan wrote:
> The chute doesn't actually weigh that, so it gives a couple of pounds to
> play with.
That's actually a misunderstanding of the rule... the allowance is only for
the actual weight of the chute & mechanism (not to exceed the limit), not a
raising of the weight limit.
Of course, the chances of a ramp-check where weight is checked is so close
to zero that for most of us it truly is zero, that "making weight" is
something most of us have, at one time or the other, ignored completely.
-- R
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| Subject: | Re: MK III Engine Options |
| From: | Rick Neilsen <neilsenrm(at)gmail.com> |
Ron/all
There are a lot of good engines out there but are they suitable for a Kolb.
The Rotax 912 series is the benchmark. It is really tough to find one that
weighs as light as a 912. The VW at the time I chose my engine was the only
engine close to power and weight. Even with the VW it is 10 + lbs heaver.
Advertised weights and HP are frequently misrepresented.
There are a bunch of issues that need to be considered before tackling a
new engine on any airplane and even more on a light plane like a Kolb. Just
a few are : Direct drive vs reduction drive, what RPM is best for the
engine, does anyone make a working redrive for the engine (ask Larry Borne)
, weight, how well will the engine hold up at 60-80% power, do you need to
design and fabricate a engine mount, do you need to design and fabricate a
exhaust system, what prop brand type diameter number of blades pitch (this
is almost impossible to do right the first or more times), are the engine
harmonics suitable for driving a prop, are you going to put a used engine
on a airplane, what are parts availability like (motor cycle manufactures
quit supplying parts fairly quick), will you ever be able to sell the plane
with that engine on it (did you modify the air frame to mount the engine).
Do you think Kolb is going to help you with a questionable one off engine?
Send them big bucks or spend less and buy a 912.
The VW engine is out of production for a bunch of years but you can still
buy (with no end in sight) any part you want and there are inexpensive
racing parts readily available. You can rebuild a VW for the cost of a 912
gasket set.
Just food for thought
Rick Neilsen
1st Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 10:35 PM, undoctor wrote:
> Engine seekers,
>
> Have any of you considered the engine from a Honda ST1100 motorcycle?
> It's a V4 and runs sweeter than any BMW I've owned. I put 129,000 miles
> on my 2000 ST, and I've got about 180,000 miles on Beemers, both R model
> airheads an K model bricks. The R is better than the K but the ST. is
> sweeter than either of them.
>
> And you can buy one used for five hundred bucks!! Great engine, ask Don
> Gheradini, the Honda Motors engineer who built the FlagFly I flew.
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: "ron.dace(at)yahoo.com"
> Date:02/21/2015 9:37 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: MK III Engine Options
>
> ron.dace(at)yahoo.com>
>
> @sfrIII - Corvair is a lot of engine. Do you know if there are other MK
> III's flying with one?
>
> @John Hauck - I would love to have a 912 and will keep that option open as
> my research continues. That was the engine that was originally on the my
> Mk III airframe. The owner/builder couldn't sell the plane intact so he
> parted it out and sold the engine first.
>
> --------
> "But all the knowledge in the world is of no use to fools. And it's
> a long road out of Eden." - Eagles
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=438565#438565
>
>
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| From: | "Samuel Ragland" <sfr3(at)speedyquick.net> |
| Subject: | Re: MK III Engine Options |
Hi Ron,
I have looked Hi and Low for an EXTRA
powered with a Corvair.
People assume that this engine is very heavy.
In reality, a running aircraft converted Corvair
is only 30 LBS. heavier than a 912.
Sam
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
ron.dace(at)yahoo.com
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 7:37 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: MK III Engine Options
-->
@sfrIII - Corvair is a lot of engine. Do you know if there are other MK
III's flying with one?
@John Hauck - I would love to have a 912 and will keep that option open as
my research continues. That was the engine that was originally on the my Mk
III airframe. The owner/builder couldn't sell the plane intact so he parted
it out and sold the engine first.
--------
"But all the knowledge in the world is of no use to fools. And it's a
long road out of Eden." - Eagles
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=438565#438565
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: MK III Engine Options |
How does frontal area of the Corvair compare with the 912?
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Samuel Ragland
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 4:36 PM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: MK III Engine Options
Hi Ron,
I have looked Hi and Low for an EXTRA
powered with a Corvair.
People assume that this engine is very heavy.
In reality, a running aircraft converted Corvair
is only 30 LBS. heavier than a 912.
Sam
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
ron.dace(at)yahoo.com
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 7:37 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: MK III Engine Options
-->
@sfrIII - Corvair is a lot of engine. Do you know if there are other MK
III's flying with one?
@John Hauck - I would love to have a 912 and will keep that option open as
my research continues. That was the engine that was originally on the my Mk
III airframe. The owner/builder couldn't sell the plane intact so he parted
it out and sold the engine first.
--------
"But all the knowledge in the world is of no use to fools. And it's a
long road out of Eden." - Eagles
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=438565#438565
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| From: | "Samuel Ragland" <sfr3(at)speedyquick.net> |
| Subject: | Re: MK III Engine Options |
Hi John,
I found this photo of a running Corvair on a Peitenpol.
I don't think it is any larger than the 912.
Thanks, Sam
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hauck
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 3:54 PM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: MK III Engine Options
How does frontal area of the Corvair compare with the 912?
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Samuel Ragland
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 4:36 PM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: MK III Engine Options
Hi Ron,
I have looked Hi and Low for an EXTRA
powered with a Corvair.
People assume that this engine is very heavy.
In reality, a running aircraft converted Corvair
is only 30 LBS. heavier than a 912.
Sam
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
ron.dace(at)yahoo.com
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 7:37 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: MK III Engine Options
-->
@sfrIII - Corvair is a lot of engine. Do you know if there are other MK
III's flying with one?
@John Hauck - I would love to have a 912 and will keep that option open as
my research continues. That was the engine that was originally on the my Mk
III airframe. The owner/builder couldn't sell the plane intact so he parted
it out and sold the engine first.
--------
"But all the knowledge in the world is of no use to fools. And it's a
long road out of Eden." - Eagles
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=438565#438565
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| Subject: | Re: MK III Engine Options |
| From: | "ron.dace(at)yahoo.com" <ron.dace(at)yahoo.com> |
Thanks for all of the good feedback. I am going to need a 100hp engine to get
my 6'4" 250lb carcass off the ground particularly if there is any hope of carrying
a passenger. What I have concluded so far:
912s - although expensive, probably the best option, no air frame mods required,
good resale potential, known quantity probably the highest market penetration.
(that is what I was trying to discern with my original post)
VW w/re-drive - less expensive, overheating is a possible issue, would have to
mod the air frame (additional cost with potential resale impact), there are a
limited number currently flying on a MK III.
Speaking of resale, it is always an issue with an experimental / kit built airplane.
The original owner of the air frame couldn't sell it with the motor intact
and get any where near the build cost. Parting it out was a better option.
While some of the other options are intriguing and a good solution for some, maybe
they aren't a good fit for me.
--------
"But all the knowledge in the world is of no use to fools. And it's a long
road out of Eden." - Eagles
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| From: | "George Bearden" <gab16(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | RE: Kolb-List Digest: 19 Msgs - 02/22/15 |
> overheating is a possible issue
I have often wondered if the nikasil cylinders for the VW would help with
the marginal cooling of the heads. My answer, without a shred of empirical
knowledge, is that it would. Back in the 60's my Ducati racer had a copper
gasket between the head and the generously-finned cylinder (aluminum with
cast iron liner). I was told by 'Ducati experts' that the cylinder drew a
lot of heat away from the head.
The nikasil cylinders would certainly cut some weight.. 10 lbs IIRC.
Wonder if ceramic or other engine coatings would help with the head cooling.
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| Subject: | Re: MK III Engine Options |
| From: | "Richard Pike" <thegreybaron(at)charter.net> |
Having built several Corvair engines over the years, while they can be made quite
bulletproof, all the ones I have ever seen in aircraft use are tractors, so
they can be easily cooled. As a pusher, cooling is going to get a lot more complicated.
Besides; they are just too heavy.
--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
"Living for your own pleasure is the least pleasurable thing a man can do.
If his neighbors don't kill him in disgust he will die slowly of boredom and
powerlessness." - Joy Davidman
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Kolb-List Digest: 19 Msgs - 02/22/15 |
| From: | Rick Neilsen <neilsenrm(at)gmail.com> |
George/All
Great Plains Aircraft sold the nikasil cylinders for the VW for a few
years. They talked about the weight savings and the cooling. They now say
that they didn't work out. Never heard the why just that they
don't recommend them any more.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 5:08 AM, George Bearden wrote:
>
> > overheating is a possible issue
>
> I have often wondered if the nikasil cylinders for the VW would help with
> the marginal cooling of the heads. My answer, without a shred of empirical
> knowledge, is that it would. Back in the 60's my Ducati racer had a copper
> gasket between the head and the generously-finned cylinder (aluminum with
> cast iron liner). I was told by 'Ducati experts' that the cylinder drew a
> lot of heat away from the head.
>
> The nikasil cylinders would certainly cut some weight.. 10 lbs IIRC.
>
> Wonder if ceramic or other engine coatings would help with the head
> cooling.
>
>
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| From: | WhiskeyVictor36(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Part 103 legal Firestar? |
Hi Bill Sullivan & others,
I have a FireStar with 5-rib wings just like yours. I built it and tried
to keep the weight down per Kolb's instructions, i.e. go light on the
paint; use sun block in the paint rather than the silver stuff, etc. My kit
came with the skinny 1" diameter gear legs and plastic wheels. My buddy built
a FireStar KXP with the same gear legs and wheels. He bent the gear legs
on the first landing, so I opted to switch over to the fatter 1-1/8" Dia.
legs before I flew mine, which was in 1994. We both think that after
getting some experience, we could probably have used the skinny gear legs. But
one place we wanted to fly to required brakes because of a downhill pavement
taxi-way. Installation of the go-cart brake kit required the use of the
heavier duty gear legs and the wheelbarrow wheels. This added weight. My
wife suggested (strongly demanded) that I install a parachute system. I
got a Second Chantz unit which I think was about 12 lbs. or so. Again adding
weight, but with the idea that the parachute was less than the 24 lbs.
allowance and the extra could be used to allow for the heavier gear, brakes
and wheels. I didn't weigh the FireStar at that time, so no idea of the
weight in that configuration. However, later on I installed a 3/4 coverage
Lexan windshield and at that time I did weigh it at 275 lbs. empty (Bathroom
scales).
Seems to be a lot of different opinions about whether or not you can use
the allowable weight of a parachute for other items. But at the time I
built mine, the Kolb brochure stated that a parachute might be needed to make
the 254 lb. weight, which seemed to reflect that you could.
Bill Varnes
Audubon, NJ
Original Kolb FireStar
In a message dated 2/22/2015 12:00:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
williamtsullivan(at)att.net writes:
Following Jack Hart's guidelines, I think you could come in well under the
weight limit. If I ever get to throw some money at mine, I think I can
come in around 270
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| Subject: | VW at Oshkosh 2014 |
| From: | "ron.dace(at)yahoo.com" <ron.dace(at)yahoo.com> |
There was a builder that had a MK III with a VW at Oshkosh 2014. I only got the
one picture. Does anyone know who the builder is and whether he has a published
log?
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"But all the knowledge in the world is of no use to fools. And it's a long
road out of Eden." - Eagles
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| From: | Herb <Herbgh(at)nctc.com> |
| Subject: | Re: VW at Oshkosh 2014 |
No one on this list!! :-) Herb
On 02/25/2015 06:16 AM, ron.dace(at)yahoo.com wrote:
>
> There was a builder that had a MK III with a VW at Oshkosh 2014. I only got
the one picture. Does anyone know who the builder is and whether he has a published
log?
>
> --------
> "But all the knowledge in the world is of no use to fools. And it's a long
road out of Eden." - Eagles
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=438701#438701
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/vw_at_oshkosh_131.jpg
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: VW at Oshkosh 2014 |
| From: | "ron.dace(at)yahoo.com" <ron.dace(at)yahoo.com> |
> No one on this list!!
Nonetheless, I thought someone might know who it was or have additional info about
the plane.
--------
"But all the knowledge in the world is of no use to fools. And it's a long
road out of Eden." - Eagles
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| From: | Herb <Herbgh(at)nctc.com> |
| Subject: | Re: VW at Oshkosh 2014 |
I was kidding...there are one or two folks on the list with vw's...
Maybe they will chime in...
Herb
On 02/25/2015 04:25 PM, ron.dace(at)yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> No one on this list!!
> Nonetheless, I thought someone might know who it was or have additional info
about the plane.
>
> --------
> "But all the knowledge in the world is of no use to fools. And it's a long
road out of Eden." - Eagles
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=438736#438736
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: VW at Oshkosh 2014 |
| From: | Rick Neilsen <neilsenrm(at)gmail.com> |
The plane is a Kolb MKIIIXtra with a redrive VW on it. The construction
looked very good.
I talked to the guy quite a bit and made some observations he didn't like.
Another guy that is helping on the build decided that the latest series III
Valley redrive wasn't up to their standards so he built a new redrive that
looks similar to a series II cog belt redrive. The series II valley drive
had very nasty harmonics issues with my Powerfin prop and this one looked
like it would also. Generally a light wood prop wasn't too bad but my
Powerfin didn't do well. This guy is using a Warpdrive so maybe he will be
lucky? Another area of concern was that this redrive uses only 5 of the 6
available mounting studs that the Valley redrive uses. Maybe the 6th stud
is over kill and unnecessary?
Now don't get me wrong the series III Valley isn't perfect but it is so
silky smooth. It is still a belt redrive. If they had tacked a gear redrive
with good harmonic dampening I would be cheering them on.
The engine had a nice exhaust system and what looks like a fuel injection
system.
See the attached, another view
Rick Neilsen
RedriveVW powered MKIIIC
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 7:46 PM, Herb wrote:
>
> I was kidding...there are one or two folks on the list with vw's... Maybe
> they will chime in...
>
> Herb
> On 02/25/2015 04:25 PM, ron.dace(at)yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> ron.dace(at)yahoo.com>
>>
>> No one on this list!!
>>>
>> Nonetheless, I thought someone might know who it was or have additional
>> info about the plane.
>>
>> --------
>> "But all the knowledge in the world is of no use to fools. And it's
>> a long road out of Eden." - Eagles
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=438736#438736
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: VW at Oshkosh 2014 |
Beautiful exhaust system until it reached the "T" at the bottom, where
it hits a square wall and then separates left and right.
If I had designed the exhaust system, I would have installed an mandrel
bent 90 degree single outlet.
I don't see any hangers/stabilizers on the exhaust system. Reckon it
will stay together with that long run of tubing?
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
The engine had a nice exhaust system and what looks like a fuel
injection system.
See the attached, another view
Rick Neilsen
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| Subject: | Re: VW at Oshkosh 2014 |
| From: | "ron.dace(at)yahoo.com" <ron.dace(at)yahoo.com> |
> The engine had a nice exhaust system
Yup. I remembered seeing it and liking it but have the same reservations as John
about more secure mounting. Also curving the outlet pipes down by the boom
tube might reduce sound in the cabin.
Also I didn't see where he had mounted the oil cooler.
--------
"But all the knowledge in the world is of no use to fools. And it's a long
road out of Eden." - Eagles
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| From: | "Nick Cassara" <nickc(at)mtaonline.net> |
| Subject: | Two Questions V. card compass and rivets |
Hello Kolbers,
I have two questions. I have seen pictures of a couple of Kolb cockpits with
Vertical Card compasses hanging off the Plexiglas windshields. I am thinking
about hanging mine also, and would like to know what materials to use to
adhered the hanger to the Lexan.
Question two is.I need to rivet the horizontal stabilizer fittings to the
Boom tube and stabilizer, but not sure what length of 3/16 rivet I should
use, or were to get them?
Thanks for the help,
Nick Cassara
Palmer, AK
607AK
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Two Questions V. card compass and rivets |
Travis, Kolb, can send you SS rivets.
I would use hardware store aluminum rivets to hang the compass. That is
what I use to fasten the Lexan to doors.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Nick Cassara
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 2:17 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Two Questions V. card compass and rivets
Hello Kolbers,
I have two questions. I have seen pictures of a couple of Kolb cockpits with
Vertical Card compasses hanging off the Plexiglas windshields. I am thinking
about hanging mine also, and would like to know what materials to use to
adhered the hanger to the Lexan.
Question two is.I need to rivet the horizontal stabilizer fittings to the
Boom tube and stabilizer, but not sure what length of 3/16 rivet I should
use, or were to get them?
Thanks for the help,
Nick Cassara
Palmer, AK
607AK
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| Subject: | Re: Two Questions V. card compass and rivets |
| From: | B Young <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com> |
Two sided sticky (think go pro to helmet), SS bolts, alum rivets (non
ferrous ), silicone( test on scraps ) May need to scuff the surface.
Rivets for the horizontal. Check with Kolb
Boyd Young
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| Subject: | Re: Two Questions V. card compass and rivets |
| From: | Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com> |
Nick, Do you have a picture of the fittings you need to rivet to the boom?
When I did the fittings on the MkIIIX "Plane from Hell" I had to make
custom rivets and special nose for my riveter. EAA published my builder's
tip about making the rivets. If you need it, I can send you the nose.
Rick
PS I've never been able to find a lower price on pop rivets than McMaster
Carr. And they're actual, honest to God, Pop Rivets, not some cheesy Hecho
en Chine kind.
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 5:06 PM, B Young wrote:
> Two sided sticky (think go pro to helmet), SS bolts, alum rivets (non
> ferrous ), silicone( test on scraps ) May need to scuff the surface.
> Rivets for the horizontal. Check with Kolb
> Boyd Young
>
> *
>
>
> *
>
>
--
Believe those who are seeking the truth, doubt those who find it.
-Andre Gide
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| From: | "KIRBY, DENNIS T GS-13 USAF AFMC AFNWC/ENS" <dennis.kirby.3(at)us.af.mil> |
| Subject: | Re: MK III Engine Options |
"ron.dace" wrote:
<< I will probably fly it in the 50 to 80 hour a year range. An under 10K option
would be optimal. If it cost more then a 912 would be worth considering.
Buying new is expensive, buying used is fraught with risk. >>
Ron / All -
I must agree with John H's advice, that the Rotax-912 (either model) is a good
bet for your money.
When I finished building my Mark-3 in 2002 (before it was labeled "Classic"), like
you, I too was looking to save a few bucks on an engine. I bought a new Verner-1400
(80 hp) because it looked like a good 2-cylinder 4-stroke engine with
lots of torque. New price was $7500. I even flew in another Mark-3 with that
engine installed to be sure. Seemed to fly fine with that engine. The engine
sounded good and provided plenty of power. The Kolb Company was also experimenting
with that engine, so I thought I made a good choice. Well ...
Turns out the engine was creating an insidious and destructive harmonic vibration
in my Kolb that made it unsuitable to continue use. Pulled it off after only
20 hours and began looking for a different engine. The guys at Kolb Co also
concluded that the Verner was not a good match for the Mark-3, and scrapped
further testing with that engine.
I began looking on Barnstormers, and found a low-time 80 hp 912ul (with only 22
hrs TT) for sale for $8500. Bought it, and it was the best choice I could have
made. I've put 300 hours on my Kolb since then, and it has never missed a
beat. As Hauck said, reliability is key, and this engine delivers. Plug and
play for a Kolb Mark-3. No experimentation or modification necessary to make
it fit right. I'd rather spend my time flying instead of experimenting.
So, keep your eyes on Barnstormers - the 912 does occasionally come up for sale.
And if you buy one that's in good shape, you won't be disappointed. That was
MY experience, anyway. Good luck ...
Dennis Kirby
Mark-3 / 912ul / Powerfin-72
Sandia Park, NM
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| Subject: | Re: New (free) Aviation App |
| From: | "gbrasch" <gmbrasch(at)gmail.com> |
Now approaching 6000 pilots using the app with over 1350 listings, and a recent
review on the EAA website. And in a feeble attempt to recoup my costs, I am
now offering very reasonably priced ad's for aviation related businesses as I
keep my word to keep this app free for pilots. If you or someone you know may
be interested, please email me at airportcars101(at)gmail.com for rates. And please
tell your FBO where you found them. Thank you. Glenn
--------
Glenn Brasch
RV-9A Flying
1952 Piper Tri-Pacer
Medevac Helicopter Pilot (Ret)
Tucson, Arizona
Owner, www.RVairspace.com and "Airport Courtesy Cars" Smart Phone App
www.RVairspace.com
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| From: | "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart(at)onlyinternet.net> |
| Subject: | FireFly Page Is Back UP |
I just finished getting my web page back up on the web. It can be found at:
http://www.jackbhart.com/firefly.html
If you visit the site, I would appreciate it very much if you would report any
errors or bfoken links that you find.
I have been grounded for several years. Shortly I will be visiting the FireFly
and getting it ready to fly.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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| From: | "Stuart Harner" <stuart(at)harnerfarm.net> |
| Subject: | FireFly Page Is Back UP |
Sorry Jack, I am getting a 404 error from your link. I am sure it is just
some little thing, maybe the DNS servers need a day or two to get the update
(if this is a new host for your domain name).
I have referenced your old web page many times while building and have been
toying with the idea of putting up a site about the building of my firefly.
Just a matter of finding the motivation and time to get it done.
As soon as it gets warm enough to get out and work on the hangar (or other
outside stuff) I am afraid I won't be spending too much time in front of a
computer. :)
Stuart
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack B. Hart
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 3:37 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: FireFly Page Is Back UP
-->
I just finished getting my web page back up on the web. It can be found at:
http://www.jackbhart.com/firefly.html
If you visit the site, I would appreciate it very much if you would report
any errors or bfoken links that you find.
I have been grounded for several years. Shortly I will be visiting the
FireFly and getting it ready to fly.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: FireFly Page Is Back UP |
| From: | Robert Laird <rlaird(at)cavediver.com> |
Try this:
http://www.jackbhart.com/firefly/firefly.html
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 4:01 PM, Stuart Harner wrote:
>
> Sorry Jack, I am getting a 404 error from your link. I am sure it is just
> some little thing, maybe the DNS servers need a day or two to get the
> update
> (if this is a new host for your domain name).
>
> I have referenced your old web page many times while building and have been
> toying with the idea of putting up a site about the building of my firefly.
> Just a matter of finding the motivation and time to get it done.
>
> As soon as it gets warm enough to get out and work on the hangar (or other
> outside stuff) I am afraid I won't be spending too much time in front of a
> computer. :)
>
> Stuart
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack B. Hart
> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 3:37 PM
> To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Kolb-List: FireFly Page Is Back UP
>
> -->
>
>
> I just finished getting my web page back up on the web. It can be found
> at:
>
> http://www.jackbhart.com/firefly.html
>
> If you visit the site, I would appreciate it very much if you would report
> any errors or bfoken links that you find.
>
>
> I have been grounded for several years. Shortly I will be visiting the
> FireFly and getting it ready to fly.
>
>
> Jack B. Hart FF004
> Winchester, IN
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: FireFly Page Is Back UP |
| From: | "George Alexander" <gtalexander(at)att.net> |
jbhart(at)onlyinternet.ne wrote:
> I just finished getting my web page back up on the web. It can be found at:
>
> http://www.jackbhart.com/firefly.html
>
> If you visit the site, I would appreciate it very much if you would report any
errors or bfoken links that you find.
>
>
> I have been grounded for several years. Shortly I will be visiting the FireFly
and getting it ready to fly.
>
>
> Jack B. Hart FF004
> Winchester, IN
Jack:
It may be possible that you left out the file directory and the address should be: http://www.jackbhart.com/firefly/firefly.html
This gets me to what looks like your page.
--------
George Alexander
FS II R503 N709FS
http://www.oh2fly.net
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| From: | "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart(at)onlyinternet.net> |
| Subject: | FireFly Page Is Back UP |
Second try!
I just finished getting my web page back up on the web. It can be found
at:
http://www.jackbhart.com/firefly/firefly.html
If you visit the site, I would appreciate it very much if you would report
any errors or bfoken links that you find.
I have been grounded for several years. Shortly I will be visiting the
FireFly and getting it ready to fly.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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| From: | Patrick Ladd <patrickjladd(at)hotmail.com> |
Just leaning on everyones good nature to give a puff for a slim volume
which I have written.
It is called `Atrak the other Otter` and is an updated version of Tarka
the Otter, Wind in the Willows etc. Being the well read lot I know you
all to be you will be familiar with these stories.
My book will be serialised at 10 pm UK time for the next 6 Saturdays,
(starting tomorrow 7th March) in 30 minute chunks.
Tune in your computer to www.dovercommunityradio.co.uk and press the
cassette in the top right corner at that time and enjoy. If you have a
small child aged around 8/9 around they might well enjoy it too, but on
a different level.
There is one chapter where Atrak goes flying, gliding I admit, but heigh
ho, which you might enjoy. You won`t get all the jokes, in fact unless
you are a certain age (remember Kilroy?) you will miss some altogether
but I hope you find it amusing.
Dover Radio programmes are broadcast on radio down a swathe of the UK
South coast and streamed worldwide at the url above. Responses come from
Oz,NZ, Canada, USA. Dover Radio and myself will be very interested in
any feedback you care to pass our way.
Thanks for your indulgence
Pat
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Charlie England <ceengland7(at)gmail.com> |
On 3/6/2015 11:57 AM, Patrick Ladd wrote:
> Just leaning on everyones good nature to give a puff for a slim volume
> which I have written.
> It is called `Atrak the other Otter` and is an updated version of
> Tarka the Otter, Wind in the Willows etc. Being the well read lot I
> know you all to be you will be familiar with these stories.
> My book will be serialised at 10 pm UK time for the next 6 Saturdays,
> (starting tomorrow 7th March) in 30 minute chunks.
> Tune in your computer to www.dovercommunityradio.co.uk and press the
> cassette in the top right corner at that time and enjoy. If you have a
> small child aged around 8/9 around they might well enjoy it too, but
> on a different level.
> There is one chapter where Atrak goes flying, gliding I admit, but
> heigh ho, which you might enjoy. You won`t get all the jokes, in fact
> unless you are a certain age (remember Kilroy?) you will miss some
> altogether but I hope you find it amusing.
> Dover Radio programmes are broadcast on radio down a swathe of the UK
> South coast and streamed worldwide at the url above. Responses come
> from Oz,NZ, Canada, USA. Dover Radio and myself will be very
> interested in any feedback you care to pass our way.
> Thanks for your indulgence
> Pat
>
Hi Pat,
Will it be archived for later downloads?
Thanks,
Charlie
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Patrick Ladd <patrickjladd(at)hotmail.com> |
Hi Charlie, i think the only way to do that is to leave a tape recorder
running with the mic close to your computer. Too complex for me. Pat
From: Charlie England
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015 1:28 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Book
On 3/6/2015 11:57 AM, Patrick Ladd wrote:
Just leaning on everyones good nature to give a puff for a slim
volume which I have written.
It is called `Atrak the other Otter` and is an updated version of
Tarka the Otter, Wind in the Willows etc. Being the well read lot I
know you all to be you will be familiar with these stories.
My book will be serialised at 10 pm UK time for the next 6 Saturdays,
(starting tomorrow 7th March) in 30 minute chunks.
Tune in your computer to www.dovercommunityradio.co.uk and press the
cassette in the top right corner at that time and enjoy. If you have a
small child aged around 8/9 around they might well enjoy it too, but on
a different level.
There is one chapter where Atrak goes flying, gliding I admit, but
heigh ho, which you might enjoy. You won`t get all the jokes, in fact
unless you are a certain age (remember Kilroy?) you will miss some
altogether but I hope you find it amusing.
Dover Radio programmes are broadcast on radio down a swathe of the UK
South coast and streamed worldwide at the url above. Responses come from
Oz,NZ, Canada, USA. Dover Radio and myself will be very interested in
any feedback you care to pass our way.
Thanks for your indulgence
Pat
Hi Pat,
Will it be archived for later downloads?
Thanks,
Charlie
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| From: | "Richard Pike" <thegreybaron(at)charter.net> |
Hi Pat, if you would like to save it for posterity, there is a free downloadable
program that is quite safe called Audacity.
http://audacity.sourceforge.net/
You can use it to record either from a mic, or it will record whatever your computer
is playing through the speakers. It is open source software and designed
to be user friendly, quite simple to configure, any 14 year old ought to be able
to do it for you without reading the instructions in 2 or 3 minutes, or you
could read the instructions and do it yourself in 10.
--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
"Living for your own pleasure is the least pleasurable thing a man can do.
If his neighbors don't kill him in disgust he will die slowly of boredom and
powerlessness." - Joy Davidman
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| From: | Patrick Ladd <patrickjladd(at)hotmail.com> |
Thank you Richard, I hope that someone will find that useful. As far as I am
concerned, I have it all on CD. Although I must admit looking forward to
tonights broadcast with some excitement. Pat
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Pike
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015 4:13 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Book
Hi Pat, if you would like to save it for posterity, there is a free
downloadable program that is quite safe called Audacity.
http://audacity.sourceforge.net/
You can use it to record either from a mic, or it will record whatever your
computer is playing through the speakers. It is open source software and
designed to be user friendly, quite simple to configure, any 14 year old
ought to be able to do it for you without reading the instructions in 2 or 3
minutes, or you could read the instructions and do it yourself in 10.
--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
"Living for your own pleasure is the least pleasurable thing a man can
do. If his neighbors don't kill him in disgust he will die slowly of boredom
and powerlessness." - Joy Davidman
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| From: | B Young <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com> |
I saw someone say to put Recorder by the computer,,,,
Could you use the sound recorder in the computer and make a digital
recording
Boyd
On Mar 7, 2015 10:46 AM, "Patrick Ladd" wrote:
>
> Thank you Richard, I hope that someone will find that useful. As far as I
> am concerned, I have it all on CD. Although I must admit looking forward
> to tonights broadcast with some excitement. Pat
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Richard Pike
> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015 4:13 PM
> To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Book
>
>
> Hi Pat, if you would like to save it for posterity, there is a free
> downloadable program that is quite safe called Audacity.
> http://audacity.sourceforge.net/
> You can use it to record either from a mic, or it will record whatever
> your computer is playing through the speakers. It is open source software
> and designed to be user friendly, quite simple to configure, any 14 year
> old ought to be able to do it for you without reading the instructions in 2
> or 3 minutes, or you could read the instructions and do it yourself in 10.
>
> --------
> Richard Pike
> Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> Kingsport, TN 3TN0
> "Living for your own pleasure is the least pleasurable thing a man
> can do. If his neighbors don't kill him in disgust he will die slowly of
> boredom and powerlessness." - Joy Davidman
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=439128#439128
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Patrick Ladd <patrickjladd(at)hotmail.com> |
Thanks for everyone who made suggestions about recording this broadcast.
Unfortunately the broadcast itself was a disaster. The DJ who was on
before my story was due to go out did 2 hours live He then switched to
another computer which was scheduled to run automatically for another 2
hours of the DJ`s stuff and then play my story, and went home.
Unfortunately the volume slider on the new computer was not advanced and
the signal was going no farther than the mixing desk. The problem was
realised by my brother in law who was monitoring things on his own
computer at home He contacted the chief engineer who unfortunately lived
20 miles away and had to readjust things remotely and switch the
broadcast back to the original computer. This took time and Atrak the
OTHER Otter finally went out about 7 minutes late and as there was
nothing going on but a carrier wave on the station I should think that
all the listeners had given up in disgust.
My chance at world wide fame, I was already signing the film contract,
gone down the Swannee.
Cheers
Pat
From: B Young
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015 11:48 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Book
I saw someone say to put Recorder by the computer,,,,
Could you use the sound recorder in the computer and make a digital
recording
Boyd
On Mar 7, 2015 10:46 AM, "Patrick Ladd"
wrote:
Thank you Richard, I hope that someone will find that useful. As far
as I am concerned, I have it all on CD. Although I must admit looking
forward to tonights broadcast with some excitement. Pat
-----Original Message----- From: Richard Pike
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015 4:13 PM
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Book
Hi Pat, if you would like to save it for posterity, there is a free
downloadable program that is quite safe called Audacity.
http://audacity.sourceforge.net/
You can use it to record either from a mic, or it will record whatever
your computer is playing through the speakers. It is open source
software and designed to be user friendly, quite simple to configure,
any 14 year old ought to be able to do it for you without reading the
instructions in 2 or 3 minutes, or you could read the instructions and
do it yourself in 10.
--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
"Living for your own pleasure is the least pleasurable thing a
man can do. If his neighbors don't kill him in disgust he will die
slowly of boredom and powerlessness." - Joy Davidman
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| From: | kinne russ <russk50(at)gmail.com> |
Sorry for your troubles! =94 those damn=99 electrons
Soon as Hollyweed signs my book contract, I=99ll tell them to buy
yours.
Fair winds,
Russ
> On Mar 8, 2015, at 8:07 AM, Patrick Ladd
wrote:
>
> Thanks for everyone who made suggestions about recording this
broadcast. Unfortunately the broadcast itself was a disaster. The DJ who
was on before my story was due to go out did 2 hours live He then
switched to another computer which was scheduled to run automatically
for another 2 hours of the DJ`s stuff and then play my story, and went
home. Unfortunately the volume slider on the new computer was not
advanced and the signal was going no farther than the mixing desk. The
problem was realised by my brother in law who was monitoring things on
his own computer at home He contacted the chief engineer who
unfortunately lived 20 miles away and had to readjust things remotely
and switch the broadcast back to the original computer. This took time
and Atrak the OTHER Otter finally went out about 7 minutes late and as
there was nothing going on but a carrier wave on the station I should
think that all the listeners had given up in disgust.
> My chance at world wide fame, I was already signing the film contract,
gone down the Swannee.
>
> Cheers
>
> Pat
>
> From: B Young <mailto:byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015 11:48 PM
> To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Book
>
> I saw someone say to put Recorder by the computer,,,,
> Could you use the sound recorder in the computer and make a digital
recording
> Boyd
> On Mar 7, 2015 10:46 AM, "Patrick Ladd" > wrote:
>
>>
>> Thank you Richard, I hope that someone will find that useful. As far
as I am concerned, I have it all on CD. Although I must admit looking
forward to tonights broadcast with some excitement. Pat
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Richard Pike
>> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015 4:13 PM
>> To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
>> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Book
>>
>
>>
>> Hi Pat, if you would like to save it for posterity, there is a free
downloadable program that is quite safe called Audacity.
>> http://audacity.sourceforge.net/
>> You can use it to record either from a mic, or it will record
whatever your computer is playing through the speakers. It is open
source software and designed to be user friendly, quite simple to
configure, any 14 year old ought to be able to do it for you without
reading the instructions in 2 or 3 minutes, or you could read the
instructions and do it yourself in 10.
>>
>> --------
>> Richard Pike
>> Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>> Kingsport, TN 3TN0
>> "Living for your own pleasure is the least pleasurable thing a
man can do. If his neighbors don't kill him in disgust he will die
slowly of boredom and powerlessness." - Joy Davidman
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=439128#439128
<http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=439128#439128>
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| Subject: | Dual throttle controls |
| From: | "Guideman" <Birdfever(at)msn.com> |
I am wanting to set up throttle controls on the left and right sides of my Mark
3 . If anyone has this setup and could send pictures or post pictures , it would
help me . Or if you know where to purchase .
Thanks , everyone
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| From: | kinne russ <russk50(at)gmail.com> |
List, my apologies. That as meant for Pat
Russ K
> On Mar 8, 2015, at 8:22 AM, kinne russ wrote:
>
> Sorry for your troubles! =94 those damn=99 electrons
> Soon as Hollyweed signs my book contract, I=99ll tell them to
buy yours.
> Fair winds,
> Russ
>
>
>> On Mar 8, 2015, at 8:07 AM, Patrick Ladd > wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for everyone who made suggestions about recording this
broadcast. Unfortunately the broadcast itself was a disaster. The DJ who
was on before my story was due to go out did 2 hours live He then
switched to another computer which was scheduled to run automatically
for another 2 hours of the DJ`s stuff and then play my story, and went
home. Unfortunately the volume slider on the new computer was not
advanced and the signal was going no farther than the mixing desk. The
problem was realised by my brother in law who was monitoring things on
his own computer at home He contacted the chief engineer who
unfortunately lived 20 miles away and had to readjust things remotely
and switch the broadcast back to the original computer. This took time
and Atrak the OTHER Otter finally went out about 7 minutes late and as
there was nothing going on but a carrier wave on the station I should
think that all the listeners had given up in disgust.
>> My chance at world wide fame, I was already signing the film
contract, gone down the Swannee.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Pat
>>
>> From: B Young <mailto:byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015 11:48 PM
>> To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Book
>>
>> I saw someone say to put Recorder by the computer,,,,
>> Could you use the sound recorder in the computer and make a digital
recording
>> Boyd
>> On Mar 7, 2015 10:46 AM, "Patrick Ladd" > wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Thank you Richard, I hope that someone will find that useful. As far
as I am concerned, I have it all on CD. Although I must admit looking
forward to tonights broadcast with some excitement. Pat
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Richard Pike
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015 4:13 PM
>>> To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
>>> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Book
>>>
>
>>>
>>> Hi Pat, if you would like to save it for posterity, there is a free
downloadable program that is quite safe called Audacity.
>>> http://audacity.sourceforge.net/
>>> You can use it to record either from a mic, or it will record
whatever your computer is playing through the speakers. It is open
source software and designed to be user friendly, quite simple to
configure, any 14 year old ought to be able to do it for you without
reading the instructions in 2 or 3 minutes, or you could read the
instructions and do it yourself in 10.
>>>
>>> --------
>>> Richard Pike
>>> Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>>> Kingsport, TN 3TN0
>>> "Living for your own pleasure is the least pleasurable thing a
man can do. If his neighbors don't kill him in disgust he will die
slowly of boredom and powerlessness." - Joy Davidman
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=439128#439128
<http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=439128#439128>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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| From: | chris davis <capedavis(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: FireFly Page Is Back UP |
Jack ,I got it today no problem=C2- Chris
=C2-Chris Davis
KXP 503 492 hrs
Glider Pilot
Disabled from crash building Firefly
On Thursday, March 5, 2015 11:07 PM, Jack B. Hart wrote:
Second try!
I just finished getting my web page back up on the web.=C2- It can be fou
nd
at:
http://www.jackbhart.com/firefly/firefly.html
If you visit the site, I would appreciate it very much if you would report
any errors or bfoken links that you find.
I have been grounded for several years.=C2- Shortly I will be visiting th
e
FireFly and getting it ready to fly.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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=C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin.
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| Subject: | Re: Dual throttle controls |
| From: | "Frankd" <FDucker(at)aol.com> |
Hello Guideman,
I have added a throttle linkage from the center console of my MkIII xtra to a left
hand assembly. Both work together.
I designed the linkage to run under the pilot seat and sent it off to KOLB AIRCRAFT
to weld it up for me, they did a great job.
I'd recommend you draw up what you want and send it to them.
Hope that helps
Frankd
N1014S, MkIII Xtra.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=439199#439199
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| From: | gliderx5(at)comcast.net |
| Subject: | Headset Modification |
I just posted a new video tip for adding cheap earbuds to your headset to cut down
on the engine/prop noise. It's effective and economical.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETiRiRqb5_I
Enjoy
Malcolm Morrison
www.wienerdogaero.com
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| Subject: | Re: Headset Modification |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
What a great idea. Kind of makes one wonder why they didn't think of it
themselves. I bought the ear bud type of headset from Quality aloft or some
such thing, and it works great. The only problem is that the noise still
comes in through the head bones or what ever, and though you can hear whats
being said and or music through the set, the noise is still there, and what
you end up with is still a lot of ambient noise. The ear buds is just
louder than the engine noise. I had been considering using either my
regular headset or a set of ear muffs to help block some of the ambient
noise.
Thanks,
Larry
On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 7:51 PM, wrote:
> I just posted a new video tip for adding cheap earbuds to your headset to
> cut down on the engine/prop noise. It's effective and economical.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETiRiRqb5_I
>
> Enjoy
> Malcolm Morrison
> www.wienerdogaero.com
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| Subject: | Re: Headset Modification |
| From: | B Young <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com> |
I had thought of doing that but was trying to find a magnetic coupled
earphone jack.... that way instead of pulling things out,, the magnet
would release and it would come apart without breaking... and go back
together quick and easy
Boyd
If someone knows where I can find such a devise let me know..
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| Subject: | Re: Dual throttle controls |
| From: | "Guideman" <Birdfever(at)msn.com> |
Frankd wrote:
> Hello Guideman,
>
> I have added a throttle linkage from the center console of my MkIII xtra to a
left hand assembly. Both work together.
> I designed the linkage to run under the pilot seat and sent it off to KOLB AIRCRAFT
to weld it up for me, they did a great job.
> I'd recommend you draw up what you want and send it to them.
>
> Hope that helps
> Frankd
> N1014S, MkIII Xtra.
Could you post pictures of your throttle set-up
Thanks
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=439220#439220
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| Subject: | Re: Dual throttle controls |
| From: | "Guideman" <Birdfever(at)msn.com> |
Frankd wrote:
> Hello Guideman,
>
> I have added a throttle linkage from the center console of my MkIII xtra to a
left hand assembly. Both work together.
> I designed the linkage to run under the pilot seat and sent it off to KOLB AIRCRAFT
to weld it up for me, they did a great job.
> I'd recommend you draw up what you want and send it to them.
>
> Hope that helps
> Frankd
> N1014S, MkIII Xtra.
Could you post pictures of your set-up
Thanks
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=439221#439221
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| Subject: | Re: Headset Modification |
| From: | "Richard Pike" <thegreybaron(at)charter.net> |
That does work really well, did that a few years ago with an old Comtronics headset
and it did make a huge difference. You have 2 sound barriers instead of
1. Guess I got lucky, did it just like the guy in the video, it was very simple
and easy to do.
The Comtronics died of old age, am currently using a Gulf Coast Avionics noise
canceling headset, and it is doing a good job - wonder what would happen if you
attached the earbud speakers to the GCA headset speakers w/ their noise canceling
function? Better? Worse?
--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
"Living for your own pleasure is the least pleasurable thing a man can do.
If his neighbors don't kill him in disgust he will die slowly of boredom and
powerlessness." - Joy Davidman
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=439226#439226
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| Subject: | Re: Headset Modification |
| From: | "Richard Pike" <thegreybaron(at)charter.net> |
[quote="byoungplumbing(at)gmail.c"]I had thought of doing that but was trying to
find a magnetic coupled earphone jack.... that way instead of pulling things
out,, the magnet would release and it would come apart without breaking... and
go back together quick and easy
Boyd
If someone knows where I can find such a devise let me know..
> [b]
You got me browsing for magnetic connectors and found a web page for people who
go to cosplay events and make their own clothing with lights embedded (?!? whatever)
- it uses magnets with wires attached to them for connectors. The author
talks about embedding the magnets in acrylic. I am thinking it would be easier
to just pot them in epoxy or silicone? Maybe right on the outside of the headset,
and the wires from the earbuds potted so that the magnets on headset/wire
would attract each other and keep the polarity? Scroll down the page about
2/3:
http://www.fictionalclothing.com/blog/
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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
"Living for your own pleasure is the least pleasurable thing a man can do.
If his neighbors don't kill him in disgust he will die slowly of boredom and
powerlessness." - Joy Davidman
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=439228#439228
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| Subject: | Re: Dual throttle controls |
| From: | "Richard Pike" <thegreybaron(at)charter.net> |
No pictures, removed it years ago, passengers kept trying to get their seat belts
hung up over their throttle, so I removed the potential, but here's the basic
principle: you use a pull/pull cable system. Advancing the pilot side throttle
pulls the passenger side throttle lever open, while also pulling the carburetor
cable slide up, and when you retard the throttle, it also pulls the passenger
side throttle closed and lets the carburetor cable slide down. You do that
by making the cable attach points and pivots 180 degrees out at the same pivot
and attach lengths for the two different throttle levers. Crude drawing attached,
the big loop is the cable inside the secured cable sheaths. You'll get
the idea.
You will need cable sheath attach points on your fuselage structure to anchor the
cable sheaths into, and also cable adjusters in each half of the loop to get
things adjusted. You will want the system to have no slop, yet not bind. It's
not hard, but the devil is in the details of trying to get it to work smooth.
I still had the old parts out in the hangar, it is not possible to assemble them
to show the system, but here is some of the hardware I used.
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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
"Living for your own pleasure is the least pleasurable thing a man can do.
If his neighbors don't kill him in disgust he will die slowly of boredom and
powerlessness." - Joy Davidman
January 21, 2015 - March 10, 2015
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