Kolb-Archive.digest.vol-nq
February 06, 2016 - March 08, 2016
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> *On Behalf Of *Larry Cottrell
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 21, 2016 9:34 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: Kolb-List: A question of Battery type
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> <http://www.arizonabattery.com/?page=shop/flypage&product_id=58&categ
ory_id=b291dca6cea297f2a41f49052a63d38d&>
> http://www.arizonabattery.com/?page=shop/flypage&product_id=58&catego
ry_id=b291dca6cea297f2a41f49052a63d38d&
>
> This is the one that I use and have a cheap float charger that I keep on
> it when I am not using. It has been in service for three years so far. Th
e
> problem is if they are regularly discharged, the float takes care of that
.
> Larry
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 5:35 PM, Nick Cassara <
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> Kolbers,
>
> In a few months I will be needing to buy a battery for my Kolbra
.so, I am
> wondering where we stand in the debate between Lead acid and Lithium.
> Thank you as always for your insights!
>
> Nick Cassara
> Palmer, AK
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| Subject: | 582 Preventive maintenance - stuff that fails |
| From: | "Richard Pike" <thegreybaron(at)charter.net> |
Last fall I had one side of the ignition system quit on the 582. One of the red
trigger coil wires had broken at the male connector where it plugged into the
coil pack female connector. As good as the Austrians seem to be at building machinery,
they are at least that bad at wiring. They use wire that eventually
goes soft and gummy. In this case, the insulation had gone bad and allowed moisture
to get in, corrode the wire, and it broke.
Three years ago one of the wires from the coil pack had gone mushy on its insulation,
the internal wire corroded, had to have it replaced.
So I pulled the engine, sat it on the workbench so I could poke around inside the
mag end, turned out that both the red wires from both trigger coils had gone
mushy on their external insulation. Imminent failure mode. Clipped them off
close to the coils, used an Exacto knife to scrape off any corrosion, soldered
new wires on, potted the whole mess with much silicone and put it back together.
Also one of the yellow with black stripe wires from the coil packs to ground had
a similar problem, the insulation had turned to mush. Replaced that also. Spent
the afternoon today putting everything back together on the airplane, replaced
all the fuel line as well. Even the good black rubber stuff from NAPA is
cheap enough to replace every 5 years. Peace of mind.
Finally got it done and ran it up just before dark, ran nice and smooth, put it
away. Just now went out to see if the coolant had sucked itself back into the
radiator system, and discovered one of the radiator hoses has moisture around
the lower hose clamp. Tomorrow after church guess I will drain the coolant again,
and replace that hose.
Details, details, details. When you get them all right, then next years flying
season ought to have a lot less drama!
--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Would you consider yourself to be a good person?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcDXT6pH7A
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=452652#452652
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| From: | Patrick Ladd <patrickjladd(at)hotmail.com> |
Anyone out there.
No posts for about a week. Say hello to check if my confuser is working.
Just gone to Windows 10 and may have lost something in the changeover.
Pat
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| From: | Eddie <e.bayliss(at)blueyonder.co.uk> |
Still here Pat just quiet
-----Original Message-----
From: "Patrick Ladd" <patrickjladd(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: =8E15/=8E02/=8E2016 11:36
Subject: Kolb-List: posts
Anyone out there.
No posts for about a week. Say hello to check if my confuser is working. Ju
st gone to Windows 10 and may have lost something in the changeover. Pat
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | mojavjoe(at)comcast.net |
hello
----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Ladd" <patrickjladd(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 6:36:41 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: posts
Anyone out there.
No posts for about a week. Say hello to check if my confuser is working. Just gone
to Windows 10 and may have lost something in the changeover. Pat
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| From: | Charlie England <ceengland7(at)gmail.com> |
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| Subject: | Mark III for sale |
| From: | "Dee One" <leblancds(at)cox.net> |
Selling my Mark III to build another.
Kolb Mark III Classic completely rebuilt in late 2015. Recovered with new fabric
and repainted with top quality Stits epoxy paint. New Rotax 582 engine installed.
New plexiglass windscreen and doors, custom 15 gallon capacity welded aluminum
fuel tank, front and side accessible baggage compartment, both mechanical
and electric fuel pump with fuel pressure gauge, ELT with remote on panel,
five point seatbelts, strobe lights, hydraulic heel brakes disc brakes, new Key
West voltage regulator, dual CHTs, dual EGTs, ASI, hobbs meter, altimeter,
VSI, new COM Radio with the intercom and new Gulf Coast headsets with gel earcups,
push to talk, new custom-fabricated engine cover and fuselage cover . . .
. only 8 hours on new engine and rebuild. $18K+=my cost. Selling for $15K OBO
Contact Dee LeBlanc
225-802-1038
leblancds(at)cox.net
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The Past is History
The Future is a Mystery
Today is a Gift
Thats Why They Call it the Present
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| From: | "Richard Pike" <thegreybaron(at)charter.net> |
Since it is a very slow 2 weeks, and people are concerned - rightly - about the
change over to Windows 10, and I am bored (And it is sleeting with freezing
rain outside)... Non Kolb topic follows:
I went to Windows 10 last spring from Windows 7, it worked great for several months,
then went into endless boot mode. The wife's computer (Win 10) soon followed
suit. Neither could be made to boot or behave.
Here is how I retrieved all the data: (both the wife & I are using desktops with
room for several hard drives) went to Best Buy and purchased a new hard drive
for each 'puter, be sure that the drive you buy is at least as big or bigger
than your current drive, this will be important later. Make this new drive your
C: drive. Loaded the new drives for each 'puter with their respective copies
of Windows 7. Now I could retrieve all our files: boot into Win7, access the
wonky Win10 drive which is still plugged into your motherboard, but is no longer
C:, copy all your files and pictures back into your fresh copy of 7 on C:.
Now you have recovered all your stuff, your are back on good ol' stable Windows
7, and you have a spare hard drive in your computer with a dud copy of Windows
10 on it. Leave it there: you will be using it soon.
Two weeks ago Microsoft announced that it will soon be including Windows 10 as a mandatory download/patch to Windows 7 & 8, so here are the precautions I took: Bought a new hard drive for each computer, same size as the one I bought this summer, cloned Win 7 from C: to it. This is easy to do with a free downloaded program called Macrium Reflect. http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.aspx
Now I have 2 identical hard drives with bootable copies of Win 7 on each computer,
bootable being the important word. If you now download Windows 10 to your
C: drive, and it fails, you still have a fully functional identical hard drive
with 7 or 8 on it off to the side. Plus you still have your old hard drive in
there with your wonky copy of Win 10 on it - we are now about to put that one
to use.
With 2 fully functional hard drives with copies of Win 7 available, you now are
safe, so go ahead and download and install Windows 10 on the C: drive over the
top of Windows 7. Now you have a functional (for the time being) copy of Win
10 on C:, and another functional hard drive with Win 7 sitting idle off to the
side. If you want to guarantee that it cannot get a virus, or get nuked if your
neighborhood gets hit by lightning, you can always unplug it from the motherboard.
Windows 10 has (IMO) all sorts of goofy stuff all over it, so I downloaded and installed Classic Shell; http://www.classicshell.net/
Now Win 10 looks and superficially functions like a cross between Windows 7 and
Windows XP. Very user friendly, all you have done is put Windows 10 into a different
skin while keeping all the serious grunt of Windows 10. And in spite of
it's flaws, Windows 10 does have some serious grunt. Until it goes wonky...
Now fire up Macrium Reflect and clone your newly tweaked C: copy of Windows 10
to your third (new) hard drive. You now have back ups for any eventuality. If
Windows 10 on your C: drive fails, you can swap it out with either of your back
ups, and you have lost nothing but maybe the last few days of work or pictures.
(I have a schedule where I reclone the C: drive to my 10 clone (L) drive
every week. Macrium Reflect will do this)
I included a screen shot of the drives in my computer so you can see how they are
named. I strongly recommend you do this: right click and rename the various
hard drives before you start to clone them, or sure as sin, you'll clone a blank
drive over a good one, and lose everything. MAKE SURE YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE
DOING. A mistake here is fatal.
Maybe this sounds like a lot of trouble, but I have 25 years worth of pictures,
sermons and family history documents on my 'puter, and $120 for a couple of spare
hard drives is cheap compared to trying to get all that stuff back if/when
Microsoft's latest crapware fails on me. Especially since I have already learned
the hard way that it is easier to spend a couple hours backing your computer
up than spending a week recovering it after it crashes.
PS: If you like poking around in your computer, all this stuff will be obvious.
If you have never poked around inside your computer and these instructions are
not completely obvious to you, this is not a good place to start. The learning
curve will leave you with an erased and non-functioning computer. Go away and
pretend you never read any of this.
--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Would you consider yourself to be a good person?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcDXT6pH7A
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=452845#452845
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/hds_medium_764.jpg
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| From: | Charlie England <ceengland7(at)gmail.com> |
Thanks for writing up the process, but I have a question.
Where did you see that Win10 is going to be a *mandatory* update to 7? I
don't want to boot my -7 computers one day & discover that they've been
converted to tablets. (I'd consider 10 a 'mandatory' update for 8, just
to have a functional computer....)
Thanks,
Charlie
On 2/15/2016 10:35 AM, Richard Pike wrote:
>
> Since it is a very slow 2 weeks, and people are concerned - rightly - about
the change over to Windows 10, and I am bored (And it is sleeting with freezing
rain outside)... Non Kolb topic follows:
>
> I went to Windows 10 last spring from Windows 7, it worked great for several
months, then went into endless boot mode. The wife's computer (Win 10) soon followed
suit. Neither could be made to boot or behave.
>
> Here is how I retrieved all the data: (both the wife & I are using desktops with
room for several hard drives) went to Best Buy and purchased a new hard drive
for each 'puter, be sure that the drive you buy is at least as big or bigger
than your current drive, this will be important later. Make this new drive
your C: drive. Loaded the new drives for each 'puter with their respective copies
of Windows 7. Now I could retrieve all our files: boot into Win7, access the
wonky Win10 drive which is still plugged into your motherboard, but is no longer
C:, copy all your files and pictures back into your fresh copy of 7 on C:.
Now you have recovered all your stuff, your are back on good ol' stable Windows
7, and you have a spare hard drive in your computer with a dud copy of Windows
10 on it. Leave it there: you will be using it soon.
>
> Two weeks ago Microsoft announced that it will soon be including Windows 10 as a mandatory download/patch to Windows 7 & 8, so here are the precautions I took: Bought a new hard drive for each computer, same size as the one I bought this summer, cloned Win 7 from C: to it. This is easy to do with a free downloaded program called Macrium Reflect. http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.aspx
> Now I have 2 identical hard drives with bootable copies of Win 7 on each computer,
bootable being the important word. If you now download Windows 10 to your
C: drive, and it fails, you still have a fully functional identical hard drive
with 7 or 8 on it off to the side. Plus you still have your old hard drive
in there with your wonky copy of Win 10 on it - we are now about to put that one
to use.
>
> With 2 fully functional hard drives with copies of Win 7 available, you now are
safe, so go ahead and download and install Windows 10 on the C: drive over
the top of Windows 7. Now you have a functional (for the time being) copy of Win
10 on C:, and another functional hard drive with Win 7 sitting idle off to
the side. If you want to guarantee that it cannot get a virus, or get nuked if
your neighborhood gets hit by lightning, you can always unplug it from the motherboard.
>
> Windows 10 has (IMO) all sorts of goofy stuff all over it, so I downloaded and installed Classic Shell; http://www.classicshell.net/
> Now Win 10 looks and superficially functions like a cross between Windows 7 and
Windows XP. Very user friendly, all you have done is put Windows 10 into a
different skin while keeping all the serious grunt of Windows 10. And in spite
of it's flaws, Windows 10 does have some serious grunt. Until it goes wonky...
>
> Now fire up Macrium Reflect and clone your newly tweaked C: copy of Windows
10 to your third (new) hard drive. You now have back ups for any eventuality.
If Windows 10 on your C: drive fails, you can swap it out with either of your
back ups, and you have lost nothing but maybe the last few days of work or pictures.
(I have a schedule where I reclone the C: drive to my 10 clone (L) drive
every week. Macrium Reflect will do this)
>
> I included a screen shot of the drives in my computer so you can see how they
are named. I strongly recommend you do this: right click and rename the various
hard drives before you start to clone them, or sure as sin, you'll clone a
blank drive over a good one, and lose everything. MAKE SURE YOU KNOW WHAT YOU
ARE DOING. A mistake here is fatal.
>
> Maybe this sounds like a lot of trouble, but I have 25 years worth of pictures,
sermons and family history documents on my 'puter, and $120 for a couple of
spare hard drives is cheap compared to trying to get all that stuff back if/when
Microsoft's latest crapware fails on me. Especially since I have already learned
the hard way that it is easier to spend a couple hours backing your computer
up than spending a week recovering it after it crashes.
>
> PS: If you like poking around in your computer, all this stuff will be obvious.
If you have never poked around inside your computer and these instructions
are not completely obvious to you, this is not a good place to start. The learning
curve will leave you with an erased and non-functioning computer. Go away
and pretend you never read any of this.
>
> --------
> Richard Pike
> Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> Kingsport, TN 3TN0
>
> Would you consider yourself to be a good person?
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcDXT6pH7A
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=452845#452845
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/hds_medium_764.jpg
>
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| From: | Herb <Herbgh(at)nctc.com> |
I have likely said this before... and I agree with Bro Pike....just a
different view....
there are several ways to rid oneself of the nuisance that is/can be
Microsoft... Setting up Linux Mint 17.3 in a dual boot environment is
one way... Presumably windows will never kill your Linux partition..??
Then again...win 10 may prohibit dual boot hard drives? Nothing wrong
with win XP either... For most of the things we do with computers....it
is fine... If you email and browse...then just about anything that can
run Firefox and Mozilla Thunderbird email is fine... Tons of programs
out there for photo manipulation and video viewing... Internet speed is
very slow compared to the speed of the processor that is inside the
PC.. so that should never be an issue...for the average user...
The other thing I am hearing is that win 10 is a bit nosey and seems
to collect more user data... never a good thing!! Billions of dollars
to be made in user data...habits...etc...witness google...and Microsoft
has not failed to notice..
Never keep valuables on you computer...buy the 60 buck , 1 terra
byte usb drive(wal mart) and drag and drop or copy and past your
goodies to it... All of these , advertised, online storage places are a
rip!! Full hard drive back up software usually comes pre loaded..if
that is your need..
Linux Mint has 17,000+ free soft ware packages...that are easy to
download and install...just find the package that you want...and click
install...thats it!!
http://www.linuxmint.com/
and to top it off...there is a program , called Wine, which allows
one(as opposed to "you" ) :-) to run windows programs ... I use it to
run my favored, Genealogy program...
On the Kolb side...selling has been slow... very little interest in
my Firefly...no one is buying boats either...have a barn full of
those...nor cars...have several of those for sale... Herb in Ky, no
pillow over my head!!
On 02/15/2016 10:35 AM, Richard Pike wrote:
>
> Since it is a very slow 2 weeks, and people are concerned - rightly - about
the change over to Windows 10, and I am bored (And it is sleeting with freezing
rain outside)... Non Kolb topic follows:
>
> I went to Windows 10 last spring from Windows 7, it worked great for several
months, then went into endless boot mode. The wife's computer (Win 10) soon followed
suit. Neither could be made to boot or behave.
>
> Here is how I retrieved all the data: (both the wife & I are using desktops with
room for several hard drives) went to Best Buy and purchased a new hard drive
for each 'puter, be sure that the drive you buy is at least as big or bigger
than your current drive, this will be important later. Make this new drive
your C: drive. Loaded the new drives for each 'puter with their respective copies
of Windows 7. Now I could retrieve all our files: boot into Win7, access the
wonky Win10 drive which is still plugged into your motherboard, but is no longer
C:, copy all your files and pictures back into your fresh copy of 7 on C:.
Now you have recovered all your stuff, your are back on good ol' stable Windows
7, and you have a spare hard drive in your computer with a dud copy of Windows
10 on it. Leave it there: you will be using it soon.
>
> Two weeks ago Microsoft announced that it will soon be including Windows 10 as a mandatory download/patch to Windows 7 & 8, so here are the precautions I took: Bought a new hard drive for each computer, same size as the one I bought this summer, cloned Win 7 from C: to it. This is easy to do with a free downloaded program called Macrium Reflect. http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.aspx
> Now I have 2 identical hard drives with bootable copies of Win 7 on each computer,
bootable being the important word. If you now download Windows 10 to your
C: drive, and it fails, you still have a fully functional identical hard drive
with 7 or 8 on it off to the side. Plus you still have your old hard drive
in there with your wonky copy of Win 10 on it - we are now about to put that one
to use.
>
> With 2 fully functional hard drives with copies of Win 7 available, you now are
safe, so go ahead and download and install Windows 10 on the C: drive over
the top of Windows 7. Now you have a functional (for the time being) copy of Win
10 on C:, and another functional hard drive with Win 7 sitting idle off to
the side. If you want to guarantee that it cannot get a virus, or get nuked if
your neighborhood gets hit by lightning, you can always unplug it from the motherboard.
>
> Windows 10 has (IMO) all sorts of goofy stuff all over it, so I downloaded and installed Classic Shell; http://www.classicshell.net/
> Now Win 10 looks and superficially functions like a cross between Windows 7 and
Windows XP. Very user friendly, all you have done is put Windows 10 into a
different skin while keeping all the serious grunt of Windows 10. And in spite
of it's flaws, Windows 10 does have some serious grunt. Until it goes wonky...
>
> Now fire up Macrium Reflect and clone your newly tweaked C: copy of Windows
10 to your third (new) hard drive. You now have back ups for any eventuality.
If Windows 10 on your C: drive fails, you can swap it out with either of your
back ups, and you have lost nothing but maybe the last few days of work or pictures.
(I have a schedule where I reclone the C: drive to my 10 clone (L) drive
every week. Macrium Reflect will do this)
>
> I included a screen shot of the drives in my computer so you can see how they
are named. I strongly recommend you do this: right click and rename the various
hard drives before you start to clone them, or sure as sin, you'll clone a
blank drive over a good one, and lose everything. MAKE SURE YOU KNOW WHAT YOU
ARE DOING. A mistake here is fatal.
>
> Maybe this sounds like a lot of trouble, but I have 25 years worth of pictures,
sermons and family history documents on my 'puter, and $120 for a couple of
spare hard drives is cheap compared to trying to get all that stuff back if/when
Microsoft's latest crapware fails on me. Especially since I have already learned
the hard way that it is easier to spend a couple hours backing your computer
up than spending a week recovering it after it crashes.
>
> PS: If you like poking around in your computer, all this stuff will be obvious.
If you have never poked around inside your computer and these instructions
are not completely obvious to you, this is not a good place to start. The learning
curve will leave you with an erased and non-functioning computer. Go away
and pretend you never read any of this.
>
> --------
> Richard Pike
> Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> Kingsport, TN 3TN0
>
> Would you consider yourself to be a good person?
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcDXT6pH7A
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=452845#452845
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/hds_medium_764.jpg
>
>
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| From: | kinne russ <russk50(at)gmail.com> |
Good advice from bother Herb, sorry his FFC has;t sold yet.
Use a separate HD to store backups etc. Much safer
Sorry to hear of the troubles with Windows, but thats nothing new.
Sure glad Im on a Mac.
Whats a virus? Ive never had one
Russ K
> On Feb 15, 2016, at 1:03 PM, Herb wrote:
>
>
> I have likely said this before... and I agree with Bro Pike....just a different
view....
>
> there are several ways to rid oneself of the nuisance that is/can be Microsoft...
Setting up Linux Mint 17.3 in a dual boot environment is one way... Presumably
windows will never kill your Linux partition..?? Then again...win 10
may prohibit dual boot hard drives? Nothing wrong with win XP either... For
most of the things we do with computers....it is fine... If you email and browse...then
just about anything that can run Firefox and Mozilla Thunderbird email
is fine... Tons of programs out there for photo manipulation and video viewing...
Internet speed is very slow compared to the speed of the processor that
is inside the PC.. so that should never be an issue...for the average user...
>
> The other thing I am hearing is that win 10 is a bit nosey and seems to collect
more user data... never a good thing!! Billions of dollars to be made in
user data...habits...etc...witness google...and Microsoft has not failed to notice..
>
> Never keep valuables on you computer...buy the 60 buck , 1 terra byte usb drive(wal
mart) and drag and drop or copy and past your goodies to it... All of
these , advertised, online storage places are a rip!! Full hard drive back
up software usually comes pre loaded..if that is your need..
>
> Linux Mint has 17,000+ free soft ware packages...that are easy to download and
install...just find the package that you want...and click install...thats it!!
>
> http://www.linuxmint.com/
>
> and to top it off...there is a program , called Wine, which allows one(as opposed
to "you" ) :-) to run windows programs ... I use it to run my favored, Genealogy
program...
>
>
> On the Kolb side...selling has been slow... very little interest in my Firefly...no
one is buying boats either...have a barn full of those...nor cars...have
several of those for sale... Herb in Ky, no pillow over my head!!
>
>
>
> On 02/15/2016 10:35 AM, Richard Pike wrote:
>>
>> Since it is a very slow 2 weeks, and people are concerned - rightly - about
the change over to Windows 10, and I am bored (And it is sleeting with freezing
rain outside)... Non Kolb topic follows:
>>
>> I went to Windows 10 last spring from Windows 7, it worked great for several
months, then went into endless boot mode. The wife's computer (Win 10) soon followed
suit. Neither could be made to boot or behave.
>>
>> Here is how I retrieved all the data: (both the wife & I are using desktops
with room for several hard drives) went to Best Buy and purchased a new hard drive
for each 'puter, be sure that the drive you buy is at least as big or bigger
than your current drive, this will be important later. Make this new drive
your C: drive. Loaded the new drives for each 'puter with their respective copies
of Windows 7. Now I could retrieve all our files: boot into Win7, access
the wonky Win10 drive which is still plugged into your motherboard, but is no
longer C:, copy all your files and pictures back into your fresh copy of 7 on
C:. Now you have recovered all your stuff, your are back on good ol' stable Windows
7, and you have a spare hard drive in your computer with a dud copy of Windows
10 on it. Leave it there: you will be using it soon.
>>
>> Two weeks ago Microsoft announced that it will soon be including Windows 10 as a mandatory download/patch to Windows 7 & 8, so here are the precautions I took: Bought a new hard drive for each computer, same size as the one I bought this summer, cloned Win 7 from C: to it. This is easy to do with a free downloaded program called Macrium Reflect. http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.aspx
>> Now I have 2 identical hard drives with bootable copies of Win 7 on each computer,
bootable being the important word. If you now download Windows 10 to your
C: drive, and it fails, you still have a fully functional identical hard drive
with 7 or 8 on it off to the side. Plus you still have your old hard drive
in there with your wonky copy of Win 10 on it - we are now about to put that
one to use.
>>
>> With 2 fully functional hard drives with copies of Win 7 available, you now
are safe, so go ahead and download and install Windows 10 on the C: drive over
the top of Windows 7. Now you have a functional (for the time being) copy of
Win 10 on C:, and another functional hard drive with Win 7 sitting idle off to
the side. If you want to guarantee that it cannot get a virus, or get nuked if
your neighborhood gets hit by lightning, you can always unplug it from the motherboard.
>>
>> Windows 10 has (IMO) all sorts of goofy stuff all over it, so I downloaded and installed Classic Shell; http://www.classicshell.net/
>> Now Win 10 looks and superficially functions like a cross between Windows 7
and Windows XP. Very user friendly, all you have done is put Windows 10 into a
different skin while keeping all the serious grunt of Windows 10. And in spite
of it's flaws, Windows 10 does have some serious grunt. Until it goes wonky...
>>
>> Now fire up Macrium Reflect and clone your newly tweaked C: copy of Windows
10 to your third (new) hard drive. You now have back ups for any eventuality.
If Windows 10 on your C: drive fails, you can swap it out with either of your
back ups, and you have lost nothing but maybe the last few days of work or pictures.
(I have a schedule where I reclone the C: drive to my 10 clone (L) drive
every week. Macrium Reflect will do this)
>>
>> I included a screen shot of the drives in my computer so you can see how they
are named. I strongly recommend you do this: right click and rename the various
hard drives before you start to clone them, or sure as sin, you'll clone
a blank drive over a good one, and lose everything. MAKE SURE YOU KNOW WHAT YOU
ARE DOING. A mistake here is fatal.
>>
>> Maybe this sounds like a lot of trouble, but I have 25 years worth of pictures,
sermons and family history documents on my 'puter, and $120 for a couple of
spare hard drives is cheap compared to trying to get all that stuff back if/when
Microsoft's latest crapware fails on me. Especially since I have already
learned the hard way that it is easier to spend a couple hours backing your computer
up than spending a week recovering it after it crashes.
>>
>> PS: If you like poking around in your computer, all this stuff will be obvious.
If you have never poked around inside your computer and these instructions
are not completely obvious to you, this is not a good place to start. The learning
curve will leave you with an erased and non-functioning computer. Go away
and pretend you never read any of this.
>>
>> --------
>> Richard Pike
>> Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>> Kingsport, TN 3TN0
>>
>> Would you consider yourself to be a good person?
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcDXT6pH7A
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=452845#452845
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Attachments:
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> Signature text;
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| From: | WhiskeyVictor36(at)aol.com |
greybaron,
Glad you included this comment at the end of your explanation, since I
don't know much about computers. I do have windows 10 which so far has been
working ok for me.
Bill Varnes
Original FireStar
First flight 1994 so I guess that puts me at almost 20 years flying it.
Me? 79 yo.
In a message dated 2/15/2016 11:38:49 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
thegreybaron(at)charter.net writes:
If you have never poked around inside your computer and these instructions
are not completely obvious to you, this is not a good place to start. The
learning curve will leave you with an erased and non-functioning computer.
Go away and pretend you never read any of this.
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | 582 Radiator Advice |
| From: | "ThermalHunter" <thermal_hunter2002(at)yahoo.com> |
I just replace my Rotax 503 with a 582 on my Firestar II. I am looking for advice
on what radiator to use. Thanks
--------
Robert G
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| From: | "Richard Pike" <thegreybaron(at)charter.net> |
ceengland7(at)gmail.com wrote:
> Thanks for writing up the process, but I have a question.
>
> Where did you see that Win10 is going to be a *mandatory* update to 7? I
> don't want to boot my -7 computers one day & discover that they've been
> converted to tablets. (I'd consider 10 a 'mandatory' update for 8, just
> to have a functional computer....)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Charlie
>
>
Stuff like this:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2993381/windows/windows-10-upgrades-reportedly-appearing-as-mandatory-for-some-users.html
http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/10/15/windows-10-upgrade-has-become-mandatory-for-some-users
http://betanews.com/2016/02/01/microsoft-makes-windows-10-a-recommended-update-for-windows-7-and-8-1-users/
So yes, you can hold it at bay, but MS is pushing it hard. Depending on your settings,
you may get surprised.
--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Would you consider yourself to be a good person?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcDXT6pH7A
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| Subject: | Re: 582 Radiator Advice |
| From: | "Richard Pike" <thegreybaron(at)charter.net> |
Here is what Rotax recommends according to CPS: https://www.cps-parts.com/catalog/rtxpages/cps15-04302.php?clickkey=1517555
Note the dimensions: 11" X 11" x 1.25". That is the one thing you need to know,
other than that CPS gets $425 for it and the plumbing fittings come out at inconvenient
places; the top one points down and the bottom one is on the wrong
side. If you mount it on the back of your cage, it is helpful if both plumbing
fittings come out facing aft, (and up, or at least not down) with the one by
the right wing at the top of the radiator, and the one by the left wing at the
bottom of the radiator. That makes plumbing it up so much easier.
Now you can go to your friendly local motorcycle salvage yard and see if they have
a good clean radiator that is at least 11" x 11" x 1.5" that has the plumbing
coming out at convenient places and they want a fair price for it.
Or you can go to ebay and get something like this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Motorcycle-Replacement-Aluminum-Radiator-Cooler-Cooling-For-BENELLI-TREK-899-New-/141419647261?hash=item20ed44911d:g:X-gAAOSwRLZUErZ0&vxp=mtr
It looks like it might fit, the plumbing is in the right place, and it looks big
enough. Your call. But this is the general idea.
--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Would you consider yourself to be a good person?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcDXT6pH7A
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| From: | Charlie England <ceengland7(at)gmail.com> |
On 2/15/2016 6:56 PM, Richard Pike wrote:
>
>
> ceengland7(at)gmail.com wrote:
>> Thanks for writing up the process, but I have a question.
>>
>> Where did you see that Win10 is going to be a *mandatory* update to 7? I
>> don't want to boot my -7 computers one day & discover that they've been
>> converted to tablets. (I'd consider 10 a 'mandatory' update for 8, just
>> to have a functional computer....)
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Charlie
>>
>>
>
> Stuff like this:
> http://www.pcworld.com/article/2993381/windows/windows-10-upgrades-reportedly-appearing-as-mandatory-for-some-users.html
> http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/10/15/windows-10-upgrade-has-become-mandatory-for-some-users
> http://betanews.com/2016/02/01/microsoft-makes-windows-10-a-recommended-update-for-windows-7-and-8-1-users/
>
> So yes, you can hold it at bay, but MS is pushing it hard. Depending on your
settings, you may get surprised.
>
> --------
> Richard Pike
> Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Well, I never let MS update anything (or even download) automatically,
so I'm reasonably confident I can hold them off. I won't be surprised to
see MS get embroiled in some major lawsuits if they continue down this
path.
Charlie
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| From: | Bradley Nation <nationcap(at)comcast.net> |
How is this related to Kolb let alone airplanes? There isnt even a token mention
of MS flight simulator.
> On Feb 15, 2016, at 21:18 , Charlie England wrote:
>
>
> On 2/15/2016 6:56 PM, Richard Pike wrote:
>>
>>
>> ceengland7(at)gmail.com wrote:
>>> Thanks for writing up the process, but I have a question.
>>>
>>> Where did you see that Win10 is going to be a *mandatory* update to 7? I
>>> don't want to boot my -7 computers one day & discover that they've been
>>> converted to tablets. (I'd consider 10 a 'mandatory' update for 8, just
>>> to have a functional computer....)
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Charlie
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Stuff like this:
>> http://www.pcworld.com/article/2993381/windows/windows-10-upgrades-reportedly-appearing-as-mandatory-for-some-users.html
>> http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/10/15/windows-10-upgrade-has-become-mandatory-for-some-users
>> http://betanews.com/2016/02/01/microsoft-makes-windows-10-a-recommended-update-for-windows-7-and-8-1-users/
>>
>> So yes, you can hold it at bay, but MS is pushing it hard. Depending on your
settings, you may get surprised.
>>
>> --------
>> Richard Pike
>> Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>> Kingsport, TN 3TN0
> Well, I never let MS update anything (or even download) automatically, so I'm
reasonably confident I can hold them off. I won't be surprised to see MS get
embroiled in some major lawsuits if they continue down this path.
>
> Charlie
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Short Field Landings |
| From: | "FiascoDave" <FiascoDave(at)gmail.com> |
Allan,
May I ask what video app did you use to film your short field landings work with
that gave real-time airspeed, track etc?
Thanx,
Dave
--------
Ciao,
FiascoDave
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| From: | Bob Green <bgreen(at)bimi.org> |
| Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 19 Msgs - 02/15/16 |
No sales due to everyone waiting for the change or deletion of the third class
medical. Many are waiting so they can buy a manufactured airplane... Maybe.
Just my opinion.
B Green
Kolb Mark 3X project.
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| From: | Denny Baber <baberdk(at)gmail.com> |
Here is one way to prevent Windows 10 since they made it a virus.
http://www.howtogeek.com/228551/how-to-stop-windows-7-or-8-from-downloading-windows-10-automatically/
Respectfully,
Dennis Baber
(305) 814-7218
baberdk(at)gmail.com
Connection - Compassion - Control
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| Subject: | Fuel tank options Mk3 |
| From: | "FiascoDave" <FiascoDave(at)gmail.com> |
I've got a mk3 with three 5 gal plastic tanks side-by-side mount on shelf above
boom.
Problem? Having to refill 3 tanks...very near and above electrical components,
battery...inside of fuselage.
Does anyone have a single tank solution? Fiberglass, steel or aluminum?
Or a single manifold for refueling over the wing?
Thanx,
Dave -southern Oregon
--------
Ciao,
FiascoDave
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| From: | "Larry Lukehart" <llukehart(at)heartofiowa.net> |
| Subject: | Unable to open Kolb Matronics list |
I am registered as a member but the site will not accept my name or
password ??
It will not accept my request to confirm my name and password either !!
I have tried for several days to open so I can post questions concerning
the purchase of a Kolb Firestar but am unable !!
Can you please suggest any help ??
Thank You
Larry L. Lukehart
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| From: | william sullivan <williamtsullivan(at)att.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Unable to open Kolb Matronics list |
Looks good to me. Ask what you need.
Bill Sullivan
Windsor Locks, Ct.
On Tue, 2/16/16, Larry Lukehart wrote:
Subject: Kolb-List: Unable to open Kolb Matronics list
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Tuesday, February 16, 2016, 12:37 PM
I am registered as a member
but the site will not
accept my name or
password ??
It will not accept my
request to confirm my name
and password either !!
I have tried for several
days to open so I can post
questions concerning
the purchase of a Kolb
Firestar but am unable
!!
Can you please suggest any
help ??
Thank You
Larry L.
Lukehart
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| Subject: | Re: Short Field Landings |
| From: | "olendorf" <olendorf(at)gmail.com> |
I tried to find the boring part but was unable. I was surprised at the amount
of tailwheeel flutter at 3:19. I guess that's why we use springs.
--------
Scott Olendorf
Original Firestar, Rotax 447, Powerfin prop
Schenectady, NY
http://sites.google.com/site/kolbfirestar/
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel tank options Mk3 |
| From: | "Richard Pike" <thegreybaron(at)charter.net> |
Made this arrangement out of Epoxy and glass cloth, has worked good for many years.
Don't put ethanol into it, or you'll get to make it twice.
http://oh2fly.net/oldpoops/pg1.htm
--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Would you consider yourself to be a good person?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcDXT6pH7A
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| From: | "Larry Lukehart" <llukehart(at)heartofiowa.net> |
Can anyone send me the email address of the fella in Hastings Minn.
that has the Kolb for sale,,
I'm in the market for purchasing one !!
I can't open on send on the Matronics list even tho I'm listed as a new
member,,, don't know why I can't open for posts !! ??
Thank You
Larry L.
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| From: | william sullivan <williamtsullivan(at)att.net> |
I don't have his address, but you seem to be posting just fine.
--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 2/16/16, Larry Lukehart wrote:
Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Tuesday, February 16, 2016, 12:59 PM
Can anyone send me the
email address of the fella
in Hastings Minn.
that has the Kolb for
sale,,
I'm in the market for
purchasing one
!!
I can't open on send on
the Matronics list even tho
I'm listed as a new
member,,, don't know
why I can't open for posts !!
??
Thank You
Larry L.
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| From: | "Larry Lukehart" <llukehart(at)heartofiowa.net> |
OK Bill,,,
Thanks for your help and response !!
Regards
Larry L.
----- Original Message -----
From: "william sullivan" <williamtsullivan(at)att.net>
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb
>
>
> I don't have his address, but you seem to be posting just fine.
>
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Tue, 2/16/16, Larry Lukehart wrote:
>
> Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb
> To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> Date: Tuesday, February 16, 2016, 12:59 PM
>
>
> Can anyone send me the
> email address of the fella
> in Hastings Minn.
>
> that has the Kolb for
> sale,,
>
> I'm in the market for
> purchasing one
> !!
>
> I can't open on send on
> the Matronics list even tho
> I'm listed as a new
>
> member,,, don't know
> why I can't open for posts !!
> ??
>
> Thank You
> Larry L.
>
>
>
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Fuel tank options Mk3 |
Got a 25 gal 5052 aluminum fuel tank secured in what is the normal open area
behind the cockpit. One of a kind. Fuel through the center section. Opens
up the area below, which is normally filled up with two 5 gal tanks, for
cargo compartment.
Built an 18 gal 5052 aluminum fuel tank for my Firestar (Original). Same
configuration as my MKIII. Tank up top and cargo compartment below.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of FiascoDave
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 11:09 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Fuel tank options Mk3
I've got a mk3 with three 5 gal plastic tanks side-by-side mount on shelf
above boom.
Problem? Having to refill 3 tanks...very near and above electrical
components, battery...inside of fuselage.
Does anyone have a single tank solution? Fiberglass, steel or aluminum?
Or a single manifold for refueling over the wing?
Thanx,
Dave -southern Oregon
--------
Ciao,
FiascoDave
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel tank options Mk3 |
| From: | "Shadow94" <seanote(at)echoes.net> |
I was able to come across a used dune buggy fuel tank, but the owner put me onto
this site for his original purchase.
http://www.pacificcustoms.com/round_poly_fuel_tanks.html
Seems like they have all the fixin's
--------
Mark
Twinstar MKII
Great Bend, PA
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| From: | "west1m" <west1m(at)hotmail.com> |
I must be the one in Hastings
Email west1m at Hotmail . Com
There are some pics at
West1m.Com. under flying
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West1m
Hastings, MN
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel tank options Mk3 |
| From: | Rick Neilsen <neilsenrm(at)gmail.com> |
Dave
I have a single manifold (boat fuel filler/cap) under the wing on the side
of the fuselage just behind the doors of my MKIIIC that I use to fill my
two 5 gallon fuel tanks.
Also, ANY software don't install a early version. Installed Windows 10 on
three of my computers works great.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 12:09 PM, FiascoDave wrote:
>
> I've got a mk3 with three 5 gal plastic tanks side-by-side mount on shelf
> above boom.
>
> Problem? Having to refill 3 tanks...very near and above electrical
> components, battery...inside of fuselage.
>
> Does anyone have a single tank solution? Fiberglass, steel or aluminum?
>
> Or a single manifold for refueling over the wing?
>
> Thanx,
>
> Dave -southern Oregon
>
> --------
> Ciao,
>
> FiascoDave
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=452902#452902
>
>
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| From: | "Watkinsdw" <david.watkins0(at)gmail.com> |
Hi, Luke,
I have a beautiful MkIII Classic with a 100 hp. Rotax 912 for sale. I'm about to
post it on Barnstormers for a reduced price of $19,900. If you'd like to see
a video of the walk-around inspection, click on this link:
http://youtu.be/dwpU42ViVDA
Dave Watkins
Pompano Beach, FL
954-608-5423
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| From: | "Watkinsdw" <david.watkins0(at)gmail.com> |
Hi, Luke,
I have a beautiful MkIII Classic with a 100 hp. Rotax 912 for sale. I'm about to
post it on Barnstormers for a reduced price of $19,900. If you'd like to see
a video of the walk-around inspection, click on this link:
http://youtu.be/dwpU42ViVDA
Dave Watkins
Pompano Beach, FL
954-608-5423
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=452918#452918
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| From: | "Larry Lukehart" <llukehart(at)heartofiowa.net> |
Good Morning Dave,
Thanks for the early on "heads up" response but I am only interested
in a single place and not wanting to spend that much for one,,,
I have no doubt your Mark III is beautiful but it's more than I'm
looking for,,,
Thanks again
Larry L.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Watkinsdw" <david.watkins0(at)gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 6:43 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb
>
> Hi, Luke,
> I have a beautiful MkIII Classic with a 100 hp. Rotax 912 for sale. I'm
> about to post it on Barnstormers for a reduced price of $19,900. If you'd
> like to see a video of the walk-around inspection, click on this link:
> http://youtu.be/dwpU42ViVDA
> Dave Watkins
> Pompano Beach, FL
> 954-608-5423
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=452918#452918
>
>
>
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| From: | Bill Berle <victorbravo(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | Newbie Alert, Bought Kit: Take me to school on the Firestar |
II please
Greetings from Los Angeles. I just made an arrangement to purchase a partly built
Firestar II kit. Don't have it here yet (couple of weeks probably).
I am seeking information and experiences from experienced Kolbers in several areas.
I am certain that a lot of information is in the archives, but I am new to
the Matronics lists and I have no experience with where to find the specific
types of things I'm looking for. Absolutely no disrespect or laziness intended:
I'm SURE that many of my questions have been answered over and over before...
but I really don't want to sort through thousands of pages of general discussion
and "I flew to X place today" information before finding the relevant answer.
All help in navigating quickly to the right information is greatly appreciated.
The questions that I already know that I want answers to are:
1) What are the known issues, problems, inaccuracies, common mistakes, and things
to avoid when building this kit?
2) What are the (mechanical, aerodynamic, structural) upgrades, tweaks, hacks,
and modifications if any that are known to be worthwhile and desirable to have?
3) What are the upgrades, tweaks, modifications and "improvements" that people
have tried which did not work, caused problems, or wasted time?
About me:
Age: Old enough to know that The Riddler is Frank Gorshin and not Jim Carrey :)
Pilot: approx 1800 hours TT, First Solo 1977, private pilot rating, airplane and
glider
Owned Aircraft: RV-3, Taylorcraft (4), J-3, Cessna 172 "straight tail" (current),
Cassutt F-1 Racer (Race #81, Reno 1988-89)
Owned Sailplanes: Mini-Nimbus, AS-W20, AS-W20BL, Ventus B-16.6 (contest # VB, 1981-87,
2 FAI speed records, 1984)
Graduated A&P Mechanic college program 1983 (still haven't taken the FAA test)
Holder of FAA STC-PMA manufacturing approval for a safety/performance upgrade product
on numerous certified aircraft
Interest in Kolb:
My interest in the Kolb has happened only recently. When I first saw them way back
when, I disliked the looks of the design compared to traditional aircraft.
The flat bottom airfoil (all too similar to my old Eagle 63 R/C models), and
the harsh angular shape of the fuselage lines, didn't agree with me. Over time
and with a lot of water under the bridge, my flying desires and realistic needs
changed. I took a second look at the Kolb with a fresh set of eyes and an open
mind, and I finally realized the brilliance behind many of the Kolb's features.
My desire to have a low and slow airplane had to also address the fact that
it had to fit in a T-hangar along with the larger 172. So the Kolb folding
wings is a make-or-break item. The placement of the tube spar in the wing, behind
the max. thickness point, had initially annoyed me all to hell, until I learned
from a senior level engineer that this unusual placement balanced out the
forces between the torsion/twisting moment of the wing and the lifting moment.
Anyway, I am very thankful for answers and information from the members of this
mail list. I'll be glad to provide more information about what I will be using
the Firestar for and why/where I will be flying it if anyone is interested.
Bill Berle Whiteman Airport, Los Angles, CA
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Newbie Alert, Bought Kit: Take me to school on the Firestar |
II please
Homer Kolb was a brilliant aircraft designer, among many, many other talents.
On top of that he was a true gentleman and a very good friend.
I've built and flown a few Kolb models. Still flying my MKIII I built in 1991.
It has nearly twice as many flight hours as you have. No one else has ever
flown my MKIII.
Welcome to the Kolb List. If you have a question that I can answer, I'll be glad
to try and answer it.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Berle
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 5:17 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Newbie Alert, Bought Kit: Take me to school on the Firestar
II please
Greetings from Los Angeles. I just made an arrangement to purchase a partly built
Firestar II kit. Don't have it here yet (couple of weeks probably).
I am seeking information and experiences from experienced Kolbers in several areas.
I am certain that a lot of information is in the archives, but I am new to
the Matronics lists and I have no experience with where to find the specific
types of things I'm looking for. Absolutely no disrespect or laziness intended:
I'm SURE that many of my questions have been answered over and over before...
but I really don't want to sort through thousands of pages of general discussion
and "I flew to X place today" information before finding the relevant answer.
All help in navigating quickly to the right information is greatly appreciated.
The questions that I already know that I want answers to are:
1) What are the known issues, problems, inaccuracies, common mistakes, and things
to avoid when building this kit?
2) What are the (mechanical, aerodynamic, structural) upgrades, tweaks, hacks,
and modifications if any that are known to be worthwhile and desirable to have?
3) What are the upgrades, tweaks, modifications and "improvements" that people
have tried which did not work, caused problems, or wasted time?
About me:
Age: Old enough to know that The Riddler is Frank Gorshin and not Jim Carrey :)
Pilot: approx 1800 hours TT, First Solo 1977, private pilot rating, airplane and
glider Owned Aircraft: RV-3, Taylorcraft (4), J-3, Cessna 172 "straight tail"
(current), Cassutt F-1 Racer (Race #81, Reno 1988-89) Owned Sailplanes: Mini-Nimbus,
AS-W20, AS-W20BL, Ventus B-16.6 (contest # VB, 1981-87, 2 FAI speed records,
1984) Graduated A&P Mechanic college program 1983 (still haven't taken
the FAA test) Holder of FAA STC-PMA manufacturing approval for a safety/performance
upgrade product on numerous certified aircraft
Interest in Kolb:
My interest in the Kolb has happened only recently. When I first saw them way back
when, I disliked the looks of the design compared to traditional aircraft.
The flat bottom airfoil (all too similar to my old Eagle 63 R/C models), and
the harsh angular shape of the fuselage lines, didn't agree with me. Over time
and with a lot of water under the bridge, my flying desires and realistic needs
changed. I took a second look at the Kolb with a fresh set of eyes and an open
mind, and I finally realized the brilliance behind many of the Kolb's features.
My desire to have a low and slow airplane had to also address the fact that
it had to fit in a T-hangar along with the larger 172. So the Kolb folding
wings is a make-or-break item. The placement of the tube spar in the wing, behind
the max. thickness point, had initially annoyed me all to hell, until I learned
from a senior level engineer that this unusual placement balanced out the
forces between the torsion/twisting moment of the!
wing and the lifting moment.
Anyway, I am very thankful for answers and information from the members of this
mail list. I'll be glad to provide more information about what I will be using
the Firestar for and why/where I will be flying it if anyone is interested.
Bill Berle Whiteman Airport, Los Angles, CA
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Bill Berle <victorbravo(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | Newbie Alert, Bought Kit: Take me to school on the Firestar |
II please
John, I just saw something where you mentioned a "Hauck landing gear" on the Kolb
archives. Did you make a taller or different landing gear for a Kolb? I want
to put taller legs on mine in order to have a better ground angle for STOL
work. Among other STOL mods.
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
--------------------------------------------
On Wed, 2/17/16, John Hauck wrote:
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Newbie Alert, Bought Kit: Take me to school on the Firestar
II please
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Wednesday, February 17, 2016, 3:44 PM
"John Hauck"
Homer Kolb was a brilliant aircraft designer, among many,
many other talents. On top of that he was a true
gentleman and a very good friend.
I've built and flown a few Kolb models. Still flying
my MKIII I built in 1991. It has nearly twice as many
flight hours as you have. No one else has ever flown
my MKIII.
Welcome to the Kolb List. If you have a question that
I can answer, I'll be glad to try and answer it.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com]
On Behalf Of Bill Berle
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 5:17 PM
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Kolb-List: Newbie Alert, Bought Kit: Take me to
school on the Firestar II please
Greetings from Los Angeles. I just made an arrangement to
purchase a partly built Firestar II kit. Don't have it here
yet (couple of weeks probably).
I am seeking information and experiences from experienced
Kolbers in several areas. I am certain that a lot of
information is in the archives, but I am new to the
Matronics lists and I have no experience with where to find
the specific types of things I'm looking for. Absolutely no
disrespect or laziness intended: I'm SURE that many of my
questions have been answered over and over before... but I
really don't want to sort through thousands of pages of
general discussion and "I flew to X place today" information
before finding the relevant answer. All help in navigating
quickly to the right information is greatly appreciated.
The questions that I already know that I want answers to
are:
1) What are the known issues, problems, inaccuracies, common
mistakes, and things to avoid when building this kit?
2) What are the (mechanical, aerodynamic, structural)
upgrades, tweaks, hacks, and modifications if any that are
known to be worthwhile and desirable to have?
3) What are the upgrades, tweaks, modifications and
"improvements" that people have tried which did not work,
caused problems, or wasted time?
About me:
Age: Old enough to know that The Riddler is Frank Gorshin
and not Jim Carrey :)
Pilot: approx 1800 hours TT, First Solo 1977, private pilot
rating, airplane and glider Owned Aircraft: RV-3,
Taylorcraft (4), J-3, Cessna 172 "straight tail" (current),
Cassutt F-1 Racer (Race #81, Reno 1988-89) Owned Sailplanes:
Mini-Nimbus, AS-W20, AS-W20BL, Ventus B-16.6 (contest # VB,
1981-87, 2 FAI speed records, 1984) Graduated A&P
Mechanic college program 1983 (still haven't taken the FAA
test) Holder of FAA STC-PMA manufacturing approval for a
safety/performance upgrade product on numerous certified
aircraft
Interest in Kolb:
My interest in the Kolb has happened only recently. When I
first saw them way back when, I disliked the looks of the
design compared to traditional aircraft. The flat bottom
airfoil (all too similar to my old Eagle 63 R/C models), and
the harsh angular shape of the fuselage lines, didn't agree
with me. Over time and with a lot of water under the bridge,
my flying desires and realistic needs changed. I took a
second look at the Kolb with a fresh set of eyes and an open
mind, and I finally realized the brilliance behind many of
the Kolb's features. My desire to have a low and slow
airplane had to also address the fact that it had to fit in
a T-hangar along with the larger 172. So the Kolb folding
wings is a make-or-break item. The placement of the tube
spar in the wing, behind the max. thickness point, had
initially annoyed me all to hell, until I learned from a
senior level engineer that this unusual placement balanced
out the forces between the torsion/twisting moment of the!
wing and the lifting moment.
Anyway, I am very thankful for answers and information from
the members of this mail list. I'll be glad to provide more
information about what I will be using the Firestar for and
why/where I will be flying it if anyone is interested.
Bill Berle Whiteman Airport, Los Angles, CA
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| From: | Jim Baker <jimbaker(at)npacc.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Newbie Alert, Bought Kit: Take me to school on the Firestar |
II please
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| From: | <wrice(at)omnicityusa.com> |
I have a MarkIII that needs flown, I dont have my Sport Pilots Cert. and
just dont feel its correct to fly without it. the plane was built in 1992,
and took Grand Champion at Oshkosh that year. I am the 3rd owner and the
total hours are approx. 135 on airframe and the Rotax 503, duel carb, duel
ignition. GSC three blade prop w/al. spinner. Wheel Pants. Always
hangered. $13000. If interested, 260 758 3391, 25 mi. S. of Fort Wayne,
In. P.S. I wont be able to be reached at this no. until Tuesday 23 Feb 2016.
Bill
----Original Message-----
From: Larry Lukehart
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 9:13 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb
Good Morning Dave,
Thanks for the early on "heads up" response but I am only interested
in a single place and not wanting to spend that much for one,,,
I have no doubt your Mark III is beautiful but it's more than I'm
looking for,,,
Thanks again
Larry L.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Watkinsdw" <david.watkins0(at)gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 6:43 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb
>
> Hi, Luke,
> I have a beautiful MkIII Classic with a 100 hp. Rotax 912 for sale. I'm
> about to post it on Barnstormers for a reduced price of $19,900. If you'd
> like to see a video of the walk-around inspection, click on this link:
> http://youtu.be/dwpU42ViVDA
> Dave Watkins
> Pompano Beach, FL
> 954-608-5423
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=452918#452918
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
Who built this 1992 MKIII? Do you have a serial number for it?
I was at Oshkosh that year, but cannot remember who had the 1992 Grand Champion
Light Plane.
OK. I remember the 503 on a MKIII. It was a red and white color scheme. The
aircraft had not been flown, nor the initial flight test hours flown off it.
It certainly wasn't flown to Oshkosh, and was not qualified to be judged at Oshkosh,
but somehow it was. I may be wrong on this aircraft. Please let me know.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of wrice(at)omnicityusa.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb
I have a MarkIII that needs flown, I dont have my Sport Pilots Cert. and just dont
feel its correct to fly without it. the plane was built in 1992, and took
Grand Champion at Oshkosh that year. I am the 3rd owner and the total hours
are approx. 135 on airframe and the Rotax 503, duel carb, duel ignition. GSC
three blade prop w/al. spinner. Wheel Pants. Always hangered. $13000. If interested,
260 758 3391, 25 mi. S. of Fort Wayne, In. P.S. I wont be able to be
reached at this no. until Tuesday 23 Feb 2016.
Bill
----Original Message-----
From: Larry Lukehart
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 9:13 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb
Good Morning Dave,
Thanks for the early on "heads up" response but I am only interested
in a single place and not wanting to spend that much for one,,,
I have no doubt your Mark III is beautiful but it's more than I'm
looking for,,,
Thanks again
Larry L.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Watkinsdw" <david.watkins0(at)gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 6:43 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb
>
> Hi, Luke,
> I have a beautiful MkIII Classic with a 100 hp. Rotax 912 for sale. I'm
> about to post it on Barnstormers for a reduced price of $19,900. If you'd
> like to see a video of the walk-around inspection, click on this link:
> http://youtu.be/dwpU42ViVDA
> Dave Watkins
> Pompano Beach, FL
> 954-608-5423
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=452918#452918
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
Second thoughts. The aircraft I describe may have been 1994. I know the 1993
Grand Champ Lt Plane.
No important. Just making my brain itch a bit.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hauck
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 7:50 PM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb
Who built this 1992 MKIII? Do you have a serial number for it?
I was at Oshkosh that year, but cannot remember who had the 1992 Grand Champion
Light Plane.
OK. I remember the 503 on a MKIII. It was a red and white color scheme. The
aircraft had not been flown, nor the initial flight test hours flown off it.
It certainly wasn't flown to Oshkosh, and was not qualified to be judged at Oshkosh,
but somehow it was. I may be wrong on this aircraft. Please let me know.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of wrice(at)omnicityusa.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb
I have a MarkIII that needs flown, I dont have my Sport Pilots Cert. and just dont
feel its correct to fly without it. the plane was built in 1992, and took
Grand Champion at Oshkosh that year. I am the 3rd owner and the total hours
are approx. 135 on airframe and the Rotax 503, duel carb, duel ignition. GSC
three blade prop w/al. spinner. Wheel Pants. Always hangered. $13000. If interested,
260 758 3391, 25 mi. S. of Fort Wayne, In. P.S. I wont be able to be
reached at this no. until Tuesday 23 Feb 2016.
Bill
----Original Message-----
From: Larry Lukehart
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 9:13 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb
Good Morning Dave,
Thanks for the early on "heads up" response but I am only interested
in a single place and not wanting to spend that much for one,,,
I have no doubt your Mark III is beautiful but it's more than I'm
looking for,,,
Thanks again
Larry L.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Watkinsdw" <david.watkins0(at)gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 6:43 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb
> -->
>
> Hi, Luke,
> I have a beautiful MkIII Classic with a 100 hp. Rotax 912 for sale.
> I'm about to post it on Barnstormers for a reduced price of $19,900.
> If you'd like to see a video of the walk-around inspection, click on this link:
> http://youtu.be/dwpU42ViVDA
> Dave Watkins
> Pompano Beach, FL
> 954-608-5423
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=452918#452918
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | kinne russ <russk50(at)gmail.com> |
John - your memory is impressive!
> On Feb 17, 2016, at 9:02 PM, John Hauck wrote:
>
>
> Second thoughts. The aircraft I describe may have been 1994. I know the 1993
Grand Champ Lt Plane.
>
> No important. Just making my brain itch a bit.
>
> john h
> mkIII
> Titus, Alabama
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hauck
> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 7:50 PM
> To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb
>
>
> Who built this 1992 MKIII? Do you have a serial number for it?
>
> I was at Oshkosh that year, but cannot remember who had the 1992 Grand Champion
Light Plane.
>
> OK. I remember the 503 on a MKIII. It was a red and white color scheme. The
aircraft had not been flown, nor the initial flight test hours flown off it.
It certainly wasn't flown to Oshkosh, and was not qualified to be judged at
Oshkosh, but somehow it was. I may be wrong on this aircraft. Please let me
know.
>
> john h
> mkIII
> Titus, Alabama
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of wrice(at)omnicityusa.com
> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 6:17 PM
> To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb
>
>
> I have a MarkIII that needs flown, I dont have my Sport Pilots Cert. and just
dont feel its correct to fly without it. the plane was built in 1992, and took
Grand Champion at Oshkosh that year. I am the 3rd owner and the total hours
are approx. 135 on airframe and the Rotax 503, duel carb, duel ignition. GSC
three blade prop w/al. spinner. Wheel Pants. Always hangered. $13000. If
interested, 260 758 3391, 25 mi. S. of Fort Wayne, In. P.S. I wont be able to
be reached at this no. until Tuesday 23 Feb 2016.
> Bill
> ----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Lukehart
> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 9:13 AM
> To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb
>
>
>
> Good Morning Dave,
>
> Thanks for the early on "heads up" response but I am only interested
>
> in a single place and not wanting to spend that much for one,,,
>
> I have no doubt your Mark III is beautiful but it's more than I'm
>
> looking for,,,
>
> Thanks again
>
> Larry L.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Watkinsdw" <david.watkins0(at)gmail.com>
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 6:43 AM
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb
>
>
>> -->
>>
>> Hi, Luke,
>> I have a beautiful MkIII Classic with a 100 hp. Rotax 912 for sale.
>> I'm about to post it on Barnstormers for a reduced price of $19,900.
>> If you'd like to see a video of the walk-around inspection, click on this link:
>> http://youtu.be/dwpU42ViVDA
>> Dave Watkins
>> Pompano Beach, FL
>> 954-608-5423
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=452918#452918
>>
>>
>>
>>
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________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Dee LeBlanc <leblancds(at)cox.net> |
This one may be of interest to you . . .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLJYjGBLCDI
Dee LeBlanc
leblancds(at)cox.net
cell 225-802-1038
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The Past is History
The Future is a Mystery
Today is a Gift
That=92s Why They Call it the Present
> On Feb 16, 2016, at 11:59 AM, Larry Lukehart
wrote:
>
> Can anyone send me the email address of the fella in Hastings Minn.
>
> that has the Kolb for sale,,
>
> I'm in the market for purchasing one !!
>
> I can't open on send on the Matronics list even tho I'm listed as a
new
>
> member,,, don't know why I can't open for posts !! ??
>
> Thank You
> Larry L.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Rick Neilsen <neilsenrm(at)gmail.com> |
Dave's airplane is Steven Green's old airplane. Steve built it. It looks to
be well maintained. I spent a lot of time trying unsuccessfully to keep up
with this plane on the way to Oshkosh. I was there at a Kolb flyin when
Homer Kolb signed this plane. Seems like he said it was his honor to sign
it. Very nice airplane.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 7:37 AM, Watkinsdw wrote:
>
> Hi, Luke,
> I have a beautiful MkIII Classic with a 100 hp. Rotax 912 for sale. I'm
> about to post it on Barnstormers for a reduced price of $19,900. If you'd
> like to see a video of the walk-around inspection, click on this link:
> http://youtu.be/dwpU42ViVDA
> Dave Watkins
> Pompano Beach, FL
> 954-608-5423
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=452917#452917
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Newbie Alert, Bought Kit: Take me to school on the Firestar |
| From: | "Richard Pike" <thegreybaron(at)charter.net> |
Figure out if you have the old style thin wall gear leg to axle fittings. If you
do, call Kolb and get the new thick wall version. Yeah, they are expensive;
buy them anyway. The old thin wall ones will break in a hard landing. Also make
sure you do not have the "short" landing gear legs that only go part way up
into the socket. A hard landing can kink/damage the socket.
A 503 is plenty enough engine, but if you want a 582, be pepared to beef up the
upper cage a bit. Instructions in included link.
Make sure your instrument panel is easy to remove or slide out to access the back
side.
John Hauck came up with a mod where you add a brace to the lower vertical fin and
from there up to the steel ring just below the elevator inboard hinge point.
It is possible to put a large side load on the tailwheel and over time this
can fatigue or crack your vertical tailpost below the steel ring. Beefing this
up is good, study the included pictures.
The MKIII will not fly hands off, but a few degrees of dihedral in a FSII and an
adjustable elevator trim system and it will fly hands off very nicely.
When you do your fuel plumbing, use only soft aluminum aircraft fuel line, P/N
03-40400
https://www.cps-parts.com/catalog/mepages/3003versatube.php?clickkey=108654
and good quality fuel line from the auto parts store, not any of the clear, or
blue, or yellow "ultralight" fuel tubing.
More stuff on this link: http://oh2fly.net/oldpoops/kolb.html
--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Would you consider yourself to be a good person?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcDXT6pH7A
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=452947#452947
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| From: | Bradley Nation <nationcap(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Tire Replacement |
Im try to replace my tires on my Xtra but so far I am unable to remove them from
the Matco split rims. It seems that the beed sealer is being uncooperative
(Im thinking its really epoxy or perhaps someone has found a new method to vulcanize
rubber to metal). I havent found any tire shop that will work on that size
of wheel. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Brad Nation
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| Subject: | Tire Replacement |
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From: John Hauck <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 9:02 PM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb
Second thoughts.=C2- The aircraft I describe may have been 1994.=C2- I
know the 1993 Grand Champ Lt Plane.
No important.=C2- Just making my brain itch a bit.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hauck
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 7:50 PM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb
Who built this 1992 MKIII?=C2- Do you have a serial number for it?
I was at Oshkosh that year, but cannot remember who had the 1992 Grand Cham
pion Light Plane.
OK.=C2- I remember the 503 on a MKIII.=C2- It was a red and white color
scheme.=C2- The aircraft had not been flown, nor the initial flight test
hours flown off it.=C2- It certainly wasn't flown to Oshkosh, and was no
t qualified to be judged at Oshkosh, but somehow it was.=C2- I may be wro
ng on this aircraft.=C2- Please let me know.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of wrice(at)omnicityusa.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb
I have a MarkIII that needs flown, I don=99t have my Sport Pilots Cer
t. and just don=99t feel its correct to fly without it.=C2- the pla
ne was built in 1992, and took Grand Champion at Oshkosh that year.=C2- I
am the 3rd owner and the total hours are approx. 135 on airframe and the R
otax 503, duel carb, duel ignition.=C2- GSC three blade prop w/al. spinne
r.=C2- Wheel Pants.=C2- Always hangered.=C2- $13000.=C2- If interes
ted, 260 758 3391, 25 mi. S. of Fort Wayne, In. P.S. I wont be able to be r
eached at this no. until Tuesday 23 Feb 2016.
Bill
=C2- =C2- ----Original Message-----
From: Larry Lukehart
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 9:13 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb
Good Morning Dave,
Thanks for the early on "heads up" response but I am only interested
in a single place and not wanting to spend that much for one,,,
I have no doubt your Mark III is beautiful but it's more than I'm
looking for,,,
Thanks again
Larry L.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Watkinsdw" <david.watkins0(at)gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 6:43 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb
> -->
>
> Hi, Luke,
> I have a beautiful MkIII Classic with a 100 hp. Rotax 912 for sale.
> I'm about to post it on Barnstormers for a reduced price of $19,900.
> If you'd like to see a video of the walk-around inspection, click on this
link:
> http://youtu.be/dwpU42ViVDA
> Dave Watkins
> Pompano Beach, FL
> 954-608-5423
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=452918#452918
>
>
=C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin.
S -
-
=C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | william sullivan <williamtsullivan(at)att.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Tire Replacement |
Try a fork lift dealer. They work on small diameter stuff. Maybe somebody used
a petroleum based product to put them on. Raises hell trying to get them
off. Petroleum will dissolve rubber.
--------------------------------------------
On Thu, 2/18/16, Bradley Nation wrote:
Subject: Kolb-List: Tire Replacement
To: "Kolb-list"
Date: Thursday, February 18, 2016, 12:01 AM
Bradley Nation
Im try to replace my tires on my Xtra but so far I am
unable to remove them from the Matco split rims. It
seems that the beed sealer is being uncooperative (Im
thinking its really epoxy or perhaps someone has found a
new method to vulcanize rubber to metal). I havent found
any tire shop that will work on that size of wheel.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Brad Nation
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| Subject: | Re: Tire Replacement |
| From: | Herb <Herbgh(at)nctc.com> |
I break tires loose by laying a board on the tire next to the rim and
running a wheel of an auto on the board.. Herb
On 02/18/2016 07:08 AM, william sullivan wrote:
>
> Try a fork lift dealer. They work on small diameter stuff. Maybe somebody
used a petroleum based product to put them on. Raises hell trying to get them
off. Petroleum will dissolve rubber.
>
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Thu, 2/18/16, Bradley Nation wrote:
>
> Subject: Kolb-List: Tire Replacement
> To: "Kolb-list"
> Date: Thursday, February 18, 2016, 12:01 AM
>
> Bradley Nation
>
> Im try to replace my tires on my Xtra but so far I am
> unable to remove them from the Matco split rims. It
> seems that the beed sealer is being uncooperative (Im
> thinking its really epoxy or perhaps someone has found a
> new method to vulcanize rubber to metal). I havent found
> any tire shop that will work on that size of wheel.
> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Brad Nation
>
>
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Tire Replacement |
Never used tire sealer on wheels, but had a couple Armstrong tires that refused
to release from the beads on either the FS or MKIII wheels. The tire beads were
tougher than the light aluminum wheels.
Eventually used a die grinder and cut off wheel to cut the wire bead so I could
cut them off.
Don't know anything about golf carts. Do they use a one piece or a split rim?
I have ATV and SXS one piece wheels and tires mounted and dismounted at regular
tire shops, but they would not touch one of these aluminum split rims. A small
"shade tree" shop somewhere might tackle the job.
I had a flat tire when I landed at Fort Nelson, British Columbia, in 2004. A motorcycle
gang was using a hanger to build bikes. They tackled the job for me,
took me all the way to town to get some patches. Could have never gotten the
job done by myself.
I think aircraft tires come off much easier than the golf cart type tires.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bradley Nation
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 11:02 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Tire Replacement
Im try to replace my tires on my Xtra but so far I am unable to remove them from
the Matco split rims. It seems that the beed sealer is being uncooperative
(Im thinking its really epoxy or perhaps someone has found a new method to vulcanize
rubber to metal). I havent found any tire shop that will work on that size
of wheel. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Brad Nation
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
You aren't flying a Kolb?
Try this one: http://alaska.gov/visitorhome.html
Be careful in Anchorage and Fairbanks. Easy to get mugged. Pan
Handlers everywhere. Much safer out in the bush with the beasts and
bears, but you need a Kolb to get there.
Tough keeping this one Kolb related. ;-)
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Malcolm
Brubaker
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 6:36 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: ALASK or bust
Alaska or bust !! we a\have booked our plane tickets to anchorage may
27 till june 17th and are renting a car for the trip now we are
looking for lodging and day trips for that time frame and already have 2
places to stay . anyone with a good lead on accommodations could plase
let me know
Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker
Michigan Sport Pilot Repair
<http://michigansportpilotrepair.com/>
http://michigansportpilotrepair.com
LSRM-A, PPC, WS
Great Sails - Sailmaker
for Ultralight & Light Sport
(989)513-3022
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Tire Replacement |
| From: | Charlie England <ceengland7(at)gmail.com> |
Golf cart wheels are one piece; similar in concept to automotive wheels.
The reason I mentioned them is that they will have a bead breaker usable
on small diameter wheels. Leave the wheel assembled, & let them break
the bead on both sides. I'd assume that once the bead is broken free, he
can handle the rest of the job himself.
On 2/18/2016 8:28 AM, John Hauck wrote:
>
> Never used tire sealer on wheels, but had a couple Armstrong tires that refused
to release from the beads on either the FS or MKIII wheels. The tire beads
were tougher than the light aluminum wheels.
>
> Eventually used a die grinder and cut off wheel to cut the wire bead so I could
cut them off.
>
> Don't know anything about golf carts. Do they use a one piece or a split rim?
I have ATV and SXS one piece wheels and tires mounted and dismounted at regular
tire shops, but they would not touch one of these aluminum split rims. A
small "shade tree" shop somewhere might tackle the job.
>
> I had a flat tire when I landed at Fort Nelson, British Columbia, in 2004. A
motorcycle gang was using a hanger to build bikes. They tackled the job for
me, took me all the way to town to get some patches. Could have never gotten
the job done by myself.
>
> I think aircraft tires come off much easier than the golf cart type tires.
>
> john h
> mkIII
> Titus, Alabama
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bradley Nation
> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 11:02 PM
> To: Kolb-list
> Subject: Kolb-List: Tire Replacement
>
>
> Im try to replace my tires on my Xtra but so far I am unable to remove them from
the Matco split rims. It seems that the beed sealer is being uncooperative
(Im thinking its really epoxy or perhaps someone has found a new method to vulcanize
rubber to metal). I havent found any tire shop that will work on that
size of wheel. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Brad Nation
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Tire Replacement |
| From: | Charlie England <ceengland7(at)gmail.com> |
I like it. :-) I'll file that one away in my (computer) memory banks for
future use.
On 2/18/2016 8:19 AM, Herb wrote:
>
> I break tires loose by laying a board on the tire next to the rim and
> running a wheel of an auto on the board.. Herb
>
> On 02/18/2016 07:08 AM, william sullivan wrote:
>>
>>
>> Try a fork lift dealer. They work on small diameter stuff. Maybe
>> somebody used a petroleum based product to put them on. Raises hell
>> trying to get them off. Petroleum will dissolve rubber.
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------
>> On Thu, 2/18/16, Bradley Nation wrote:
>>
>> Subject: Kolb-List: Tire Replacement
>> To: "Kolb-list"
>> Date: Thursday, February 18, 2016, 12:01 AM
>> Bradley Nation
>> Im try to replace my tires on my Xtra but so far I am
>> unable to remove them from the Matco split rims. It
>> seems that the beed sealer is being uncooperative (Im
>> thinking its really epoxy or perhaps someone has found a
>> new method to vulcanize rubber to metal). I havent found
>> any tire shop that will work on that size of wheel.
>> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Brad Nation
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________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Tire Replacement |
Problem with breaking tough beads on UL type aluminum wheels is the tire bead is
tougher than the aluminum wheel. Very easy to ruin a wheel in the process.
The reason I cut the bead with a die grinder was to sacrifice the "off road"
tire before I sacrificed the wheel. I'd have second thoughts about butchering
an aircraft tire.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charlie England
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Tire Replacement
I like it. :-) I'll file that one away in my (computer) memory banks for future
use.
On 2/18/2016 8:19 AM, Herb wrote:
>
> I break tires loose by laying a board on the tire next to the rim and
> running a wheel of an auto on the board.. Herb
>
> On 02/18/2016 07:08 AM, william sullivan wrote:
>>
>>
>> Try a fork lift dealer. They work on small diameter stuff. Maybe
>> somebody used a petroleum based product to put them on. Raises hell
>> trying to get them off. Petroleum will dissolve rubber.
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------
>> On Thu, 2/18/16, Bradley Nation wrote:
>>
>> Subject: Kolb-List: Tire Replacement
>> To: "Kolb-list"
>> Date: Thursday, February 18, 2016, 12:01 AM
>> Bradley Nation
>> Im try to replace my tires on my Xtra but so far I am
>> unable to remove them from the Matco split rims. It
>> seems that the beed sealer is being uncooperative (Im
>> thinking its really epoxy or perhaps someone has found a
>> new method to vulcanize rubber to metal). I havent found
>> any tire shop that will work on that size of wheel.
>> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Brad Nation
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________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "pcking" <pc.king(at)comcast.net> |
Have you thought of using a mini tire change from Harbor Freight?
$42.99.
http://www.harborfreight.com/mini-tire-changer-61179.html
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | nationcap(at)comcast.net |
| Subject: | Re: changing tires |
No I did not know about this. I will give it a try.
----- Original Message -----
From: "pcking" <pc.king(at)comcast.net>
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 1:36:11 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: changing tires
Have you thought of using a mini tire change from Harbor Freight?
$42.99.
http://www.harborfreight.com/mini-tire-changer-61179.html
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
Usually, the problem when attempting to break he bead, is that the rim
is weaker than the tire bead.
If it was my problem and I had a off road tire on the rim, I'd sacrifice
the tire and cut the wire bead. If not, I'd figure out which cost the
most to replace, aircraft tire or MATCO rim.
Good luck with your tire operation.
john h
Titus, Alabama
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
nationcap(at)comcast.net
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: changing tires
No I did not know about this. I will give it a try.
_____
From: "pcking" <pc.king(at)comcast.net>
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 1:36:11 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: changing tires
Have you thought of using a mini tire change from Harbor Freight?
$42.99.
http://www.harborfreight.com/mini-tire-changer-61179.html
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | <wrice(at)omnicityusa.com> |
Mr. Hauck, maybe I can shed more light on the MIII! If you are like me and
scratch your head any more, we wont need a comb. The Builder was Daniel
Bauman, serial No. 16 and registration no N726DB.
-----Original Message-----
From: John Hauck
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 8:49 PM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb
Who built this 1992 MKIII? Do you have a serial number for it?
I was at Oshkosh that year, but cannot remember who had the 1992 Grand
Champion Light Plane.
OK. I remember the 503 on a MKIII. It was a red and white color scheme.
The aircraft had not been flown, nor the initial flight test hours flown off
it. It certainly wasn't flown to Oshkosh, and was not qualified to be
judged at Oshkosh, but somehow it was. I may be wrong on this aircraft.
Please let me know.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
wrice(at)omnicityusa.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb
I have a MarkIII that needs flown, I dont have my Sport Pilots Cert. and
just dont feel its correct to fly without it. the plane was built in 1992,
and took Grand Champion at Oshkosh that year. I am the 3rd owner and the
total hours are approx. 135 on airframe and the Rotax 503, duel carb, duel
ignition. GSC three blade prop w/al. spinner. Wheel Pants. Always
hangered. $13000. If interested, 260 758 3391, 25 mi. S. of Fort Wayne,
In. P.S. I wont be able to be reached at this no. until Tuesday 23 Feb 2016.
Bill
----Original Message-----
From: Larry Lukehart
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 9:13 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb
Good Morning Dave,
Thanks for the early on "heads up" response but I am only interested
in a single place and not wanting to spend that much for one,,,
I have no doubt your Mark III is beautiful but it's more than I'm
looking for,,,
Thanks again
Larry L.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Watkinsdw" <david.watkins0(at)gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 6:43 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb
>
> Hi, Luke,
> I have a beautiful MkIII Classic with a 100 hp. Rotax 912 for sale. I'm
> about to post it on Barnstormers for a reduced price of $19,900. If you'd
> like to see a video of the walk-around inspection, click on this link:
> http://youtu.be/dwpU42ViVDA
> Dave Watkins
> Pompano Beach, FL
> 954-608-5423
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=452918#452918
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
Yep, that is the one. Was a nice looking MKIII. Must still be like brand new
with so few hours on it.
Mine shows a lot of fair wear and tear, but still flies well. In fact, I have
gotten off my butt and hit the air ways this past Saturday. Got 1.5 hours of
really fun flying although the wind was blowing, I still managed to make it home
without bending anything.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of wrice(at)omnicityusa.com
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb
Mr. Hauck, maybe I can shed more light on the MIII! If you are like me and
scratch your head any more, we wont need a comb. The Builder was Daniel Bauman,
serial No. 16 and registration no N726DB.
-----Original Message-----
From: John Hauck
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 8:49 PM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb
Who built this 1992 MKIII? Do you have a serial number for it?
I was at Oshkosh that year, but cannot remember who had the 1992 Grand Champion
Light Plane.
OK. I remember the 503 on a MKIII. It was a red and white color scheme.
The aircraft had not been flown, nor the initial flight test hours flown off it.
It certainly wasn't flown to Oshkosh, and was not qualified to be judged at
Oshkosh, but somehow it was. I may be wrong on this aircraft.
Please let me know.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of wrice(at)omnicityusa.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb
I have a MarkIII that needs flown, I dont have my Sport Pilots Cert. and just dont
feel its correct to fly without it. the plane was built in 1992, and took
Grand Champion at Oshkosh that year. I am the 3rd owner and the total hours
are approx. 135 on airframe and the Rotax 503, duel carb, duel ignition. GSC
three blade prop w/al. spinner. Wheel Pants. Always hangered. $13000. If interested,
260 758 3391, 25 mi. S. of Fort Wayne, In. P.S. I wont be able to be
reached at this no. until Tuesday 23 Feb 2016.
Bill
----Original Message-----
From: Larry Lukehart
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 9:13 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb
Good Morning Dave,
Thanks for the early on "heads up" response but I am only interested
in a single place and not wanting to spend that much for one,,,
I have no doubt your Mark III is beautiful but it's more than I'm
looking for,,,
Thanks again
Larry L.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Watkinsdw" <david.watkins0(at)gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 6:43 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb
> -->
>
> Hi, Luke,
> I have a beautiful MkIII Classic with a 100 hp. Rotax 912 for sale.
> I'm about to post it on Barnstormers for a reduced price of $19,900.
> If you'd like to see a video of the walk-around inspection, click on this link:
> http://youtu.be/dwpU42ViVDA
> Dave Watkins
> Pompano Beach, FL
> 954-608-5423
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=452918#452918
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Bill Berle <victorbravo(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | Flaperons on the Slingshot |
I was looking through pictures today, and I noticed photos showing a "flap" handle
in a Slingshot. But looking at the exterios photos I saw that there was only
one control surface behind each wing.
This would mean that the Slingshot, or at least this one, had a flaperon control
mixer.
Was this a standard control setup for the Slingshot, or was this one airplane modified
with flaperons?
Does anyone have and information about this system, and how it operates?
Does anyone knoow whether the flaperons were beneficial and how much they halped
on the fast or slow end of the speed range?
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
--------------------------------------------
On Thu, 2/18/16, John Hauck wrote:
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Thursday, February 18, 2016, 5:29 PM
"John Hauck"
Yep, that is the one. Was a nice looking MKIII.
Must still be like brand new with so few hours on it.
Mine shows a lot of fair wear and tear, but still flies
well. In fact, I have gotten off my butt and hit the
air ways this past Saturday. Got 1.5 hours of really
fun flying although the wind was blowing, I still managed to
make it home without bending anything.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com]
On Behalf Of wrice(at)omnicityusa.com
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 7:16 PM
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb
Mr. Hauck, maybe I can shed more light on the
MIII!If you are like me and
scratch your head any more, we wont need a comb. The
Builder was Daniel Bauman, serial No. 16 and registration no
N726DB.
-----Original Message-----
From: John Hauck
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 8:49 PM
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb
Who built this 1992 MKIII? Do you have a serial number
for it?
I was at Oshkosh that year, but cannot remember who had the
1992 Grand Champion Light Plane.
OK. I remember the 503 on a MKIII. It was a red
and white color scheme.
The aircraft had not been flown, nor the initial flight test
hours flown off it. It certainly wasn't flown to
Oshkosh, and was not qualified to be judged at Oshkosh, but
somehow it was. I may be wrong on this aircraft.
Please let me know.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com]
On Behalf Of wrice(at)omnicityusa.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 6:17 PM
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb
I have a MarkIII that needs flown, I dont have my Sport
Pilots Cert. and just dont feel its correct to fly
without it. the plane was built in 1992, and took
Grand Champion at Oshkosh that year. I am the 3rd
owner and the total hours are approx. 135 on airframe and
the Rotax 503, duel carb, duel ignition. GSC three
blade prop w/al. spinner. Wheel Pants. Always
hangered. $13000. If interested, 260 758 3391,
25 mi. S. of Fort Wayne, In. P.S. I wont be able to be
reached at this no. until Tuesday 23 Feb 2016.
Bill
----Original Message-----
From: Larry Lukehart
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 9:13 AM
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb
Good Morning Dave,
Thanks for the early on "heads up" response but I am only
interested
in a single place and not wanting to spend that much for
one,,,
I have no doubt your Mark III is beautiful but it's more
than I'm
looking for,,,
Thanks again
Larry L.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Watkinsdw" <david.watkins0(at)gmail.com>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 6:43 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb
> -->
>
> Hi, Luke,
> I have a beautiful MkIII Classic with a 100 hp. Rotax
912 for sale.
> I'm about to post it on Barnstormers for a reduced
price of $19,900.
> If you'd like to see a video of the walk-around
inspection, click on this link:
> http://youtu.be/dwpU42ViVDA
> Dave Watkins
> Pompano Beach, FL
> 954-608-5423
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=452918#452918
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tire Replacement |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
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Seems like only yesterday that some one suggested that I glue my tires on
rather than use screws to keep them from slipping at low pressure. I think
I will stick with the screws. I don't have a tire changer, but I do have a
screw gun. :-)
smug
Larry
---Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:
owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bradley Nation
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 11:02 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Tire Replacement
I=99m try to replace my tires on my Xtra but so far I am unable to re
move
them from the Matco split rims. It seems that the beed sealer is being
uncooperative (I=99m thinking it=99s really epoxy or perhaps so
meone has found
a new method to vulcanize rubber to metal). I haven=99t found any tir
e shop
that will work on that size of wheel. Any suggestions would be greatly
appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Brad Nation
On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 7:28 AM, John Hauck wrote:
>
> Never used tire sealer on wheels, but had a couple Armstrong tires that
> refused to release from the beads on either the FS or MKIII wheels. The
> tire beads were tougher than the light aluminum wheels.
>
> Eventually used a die grinder and cut off wheel to cut the wire bead so I
> could cut them off.
>
> Don't know anything about golf carts. Do they use a one piece or a split
> rim? I have ATV and SXS one piece wheels and tires mounted and dismounte
d
> at regular tire shops, but they would not touch one of these aluminum spl
it
> rims. A small "shade tree" shop somewhere might tackle the job.
>
> I had a flat tire when I landed at Fort Nelson, British Columbia, in
> 2004. A motorcycle gang was using a hanger to build bikes. They tackled
> the job for me, took me all the way to town to get some patches. Could
> have never gotten the job done by myself.
>
> I think aircraft tires come off much easier than the golf cart type tires
.
>
> john h
> mkIII
> Titus, Alabama
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bradley Nation
> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 11:02 PM
> To: Kolb-list
> Subject: Kolb-List: Tire Replacement
>
>
> I=99m try to replace my tires on my Xtra but so far I am unable to
remove
> them from the Matco split rims. It seems that the beed sealer is being
> uncooperative (I=99m thinking it=99s really epoxy or perhaps
someone has found
> a new method to vulcanize rubber to metal). I haven=99t found any t
ire shop
> that will work on that size of wheel. Any suggestions would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Brad Nation
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tire Replacement |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
Is seems like only yesterday that several people were telling me to use
bead sealer rather than screws to keep my tires from slipping at low
pressure. I think I will stick with the screws.
Larry
On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 10:01 PM, Bradley Nation
wrote:
>
> I=99m try to replace my tires on my Xtra but so far I am unable to
remove
> them from the Matco split rims. It seems that the beed sealer is being
> uncooperative (I=99m thinking it=99s really epoxy or perhaps
someone has found
> a new method to vulcanize rubber to metal). I haven=99t found any t
ire shop
> that will work on that size of wheel. Any suggestions would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Brad Nation
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tire Replacement |
| From: | "Watkinsdw" <david.watkins0(at)gmail.com> |
I bought this mini tire changer six years ago at Northern Tool. It has worked well
for me. They no longer carry it, but Harbor Freight is advertising it.
Hope that helps!
Dave Watkins
MkIII Classic
Pompano Beach, FL (KPMP)
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| Subject: | Re: Tire Replacement |
| From: | "Watkinsdw" <david.watkins0(at)gmail.com> |
Wow! That turned out way bigger than I intended! Sorry!
Dave
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| Subject: | Re: Tire Replacement |
| From: | Rick Neilsen <neilsenrm(at)gmail.com> |
I have struggled in the past to break the bead on my Matco wheels. Created
a few tools with limited success. The last time I needed to change a tube
was at Airventure. Landed on the grass on the UL strip with a totally flat
tire, no brakes needed. Taxi speed was slow and lumby. John Williamson
followed my in, grumbled later he almost landed on top of me.
Took the wheel/tire to the EAA repair shop with a newly purchased tube. I
used their small wheel bead breaker. The bead separated very easy with no
deformation of the wheel. The tire changer that has been indicated looks
like it could stress the wheel when trying to break the bead. Once these
tires seat they really bond themselves to the wheel. HF also sells a small
wheel bead breaker that I have been telling myself I will buy next time I
change my tires. Getting close little/no tread left.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 7:55 AM, Watkinsdw wrote:
>
> I bought this mini tire changer six years ago at Northern Tool. It has
> worked well for me. They no longer carry it, but Harbor Freight is
> advertising it.
> Hope that helps!
> Dave Watkins
> MkIII Classic
> Pompano Beach, FL (KPMP)
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=452995#452995
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| From: | nationcap(at)comcast.net |
| Subject: | Re: Tire Replacement |
All I can say is that the tires are not slipping, that's for sure.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 8:52:17 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Tire Replacement
Is seems like only yesterday that several people were telling me to use bea
d sealer rather than screws to keep my tires from slipping at low pressure.
I think I will stick with the screws.
Larry
On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 10:01 PM, Bradley Nation < nationcap(at)comcast.net >
wrote:
I=99m try to replace my tires on my Xtra but so far I am unable to re
move them from the Matco split rims. It seems that the beed sealer is being
uncooperative (I=99m thinking it=99s really epoxy or perhaps s
omeone has found a new method to vulcanize rubber to metal). I haven
=99t found any tire shop that will work on that size of wheel. Any suggesti
ons would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Brad Nation
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| Subject: | Re: Tire Replacement |
| From: | "racerjerry" <gnking2(at)verizon.net> |
A regular tire bead breaker should work. You just need to concentrate the force
in one spot using a 2 x 3. Apply and hold force then heat area with a heat
gun or hair dryer to soften the glue. Once you get it started, the bead should
tear loose easily.
I use something like this, together with plywood to protect the wheel on the backside:
http://www.harborfreight.com/bead-breaker-92961.html
As John H. cautioned, be darned careful not to distort the wheel.
If you still have a problem, rig up something to apply concentrated force that
you can let sit overnight. Puddle some solvent around the tire bead to help soften
the glue
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| Subject: | Re: Flaperons on the Slingshot |
| From: | "racerjerry" <gnking2(at)verizon.net> |
>From this video, it appears that most, if not all, Kolb Slingshots incorporate
flaperons.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMZ5LJ8IvBc
I dunno' about flaperons on a Slingshot, but I modified my clipped wing Firestar
II to accommodate flaperons with linkage modeled after the Kolb Firefly. It
worked well. The reason I wanted flaperons is that they very much helped me
to (almost) meet FAA requirements for an ultralight vehicle; specifically, AC
103-7, appendix 2. I am fairly sure that this is the main reason that flaperons
were incorporated into Firefly design. Personally, I found the flaperons to
be of little use on an already slow landing draggy airplane; err..., I mean
"vehicle". Your mileage may vary.
My guess is that flaperons may well benefit the faster Slingshot. In any event,
take a close look at the Firefly and its very simple lightweight flaperon mechanism
that you may be able to use. Thank you, Homer.
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Flaperons on the Slingshot |
I carried a cameraman and huge video camera on that flight.
Not much room in the Slingshot for two folks. He had to put
the front of the camera on my right shoulder. The Slingshot
performed well with the 65 hp 582. At that time I was still
not accustomed to the short, stubby 22' wings.
Today you stick a Go Pro on the nose to get video in flight.
The flaperons on the FF and SS were not nearly effective as
the flaps on the MKIII.
This video is the year Kolb introduced the updated MKIIIx
with droop wing tips at Sun and Fun. You get a good idea
how large the flaps are.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6LjOighew8
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
racerjerry
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2016 8:53 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Flaperons on the Slingshot
>From this video, it appears that most, if not all, Kolb
Slingshots incorporate flaperons.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMZ5LJ8IvBc
I dunno' about flaperons on a Slingshot, but I modified my
clipped wing Firestar II to accommodate flaperons with
linkage modeled after the Kolb Firefly. It worked well.
The reason I wanted flaperons is that they very much helped
me to (almost) meet FAA requirements for an ultralight
vehicle; specifically, AC 103-7, appendix 2. I am fairly
sure that this is the main reason that flaperons were
incorporated into Firefly design. Personally, I found the
flaperons to be of little use on an already slow landing
draggy airplane; err..., I mean "vehicle". Your mileage
may vary.
My guess is that flaperons may well benefit the faster
Slingshot. In any event, take a close look at the Firefly
and its very simple lightweight flaperon mechanism that you
may be able to use. Thank you, Homer.
--------
Jerry King
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=453014#453014
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Flaperons on the Slingshot |
I might add it didn't take long to get used to those little
wings and lift struts which were very capable. Both the SS
and the FF are little hot rods. Very quick response and
high performance.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
John Hauck
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2016 9:39 AM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Flaperons on the Slingshot
I carried a cameraman and huge video camera on that flight.
Not much room in the Slingshot for two folks. He had to put
the front of the camera on my right shoulder. The Slingshot
performed well with the 65 hp 582. At that time I was still
not accustomed to the short, stubby 22' wings.
Today you stick a Go Pro on the nose to get video in flight.
The flaperons on the FF and SS were not nearly effective as
the flaps on the MKIII.
This video is the year Kolb introduced the updated MKIIIx
with droop wing tips at Sun and Fun. You get a good idea
how large the flaps are.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6LjOighew8
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
racerjerry
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2016 8:53 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Flaperons on the Slingshot
>From this video, it appears that most, if not all, Kolb
Slingshots incorporate flaperons.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMZ5LJ8IvBc
I dunno' about flaperons on a Slingshot, but I modified my
clipped wing Firestar II to accommodate flaperons with
linkage modeled after the Kolb Firefly. It worked well.
The reason I wanted flaperons is that they very much helped
me to (almost) meet FAA requirements for an ultralight
vehicle; specifically, AC 103-7, appendix 2. I am fairly
sure that this is the main reason that flaperons were
incorporated into Firefly design. Personally, I found the
flaperons to be of little use on an already slow landing
draggy airplane; err..., I mean "vehicle". Your mileage
may vary.
My guess is that flaperons may well benefit the faster
Slingshot. In any event, take a close look at the Firefly
and its very simple lightweight flaperon mechanism that you
may be able to use. Thank you, Homer.
--------
Jerry King
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=453014#453014
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Photoshare, and much much more:
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=
Photoshare, and much much more:
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| From: | "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart(at)onlyinternet.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Tire Replacement |
My solution:
http://jackbhart.com/firefly/firefly107.html
Jack B Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
At 09:19 AM 2/18/2016, you wrote:
>
>I break tires loose by laying a board on the
>tire next to the rim and running a wheel of an auto on the board.. Herb
>
>On 02/18/2016 07:08 AM, william sullivan wrote:
>>sullivan
>>
>> Try a fork lift dealer. They work on small
>> diameter stuff. Maybe somebody used a
>> petroleum based product to put them
>> on. Raises hell trying to get them off. Petroleum will dissolve rubber.
>>
>>
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>>On Thu, 2/18/16, Bradley Nation wrote:
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>> Subject: Kolb-List: Tire Replacement
>> To: "Kolb-list"
>> Date: Thursday, February 18, 2016, 12:01 AM
>>
>> Bradley Nation
>>
>> Im try to replace my tires on my Xtra but so far I am
>> unable to remove them from the Matco split rims. It
>> seems that the beed sealer is being uncooperative (Im
>> thinking its really epoxy or perhaps someone has found a
>> new method to vulcanize rubber to metal). I havent found
>> any tire shop that will work on that size of wheel.
>> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Brad Nation
>>
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| Subject: | Re: ALASK or bust |
| From: | "west1m" <west1m(at)hotmail.com> |
I also did the trip by motorcycle in 2006.
I think the most fun I had was in Chicken...
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West1m
Hastings, MN
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| Subject: | Re: ALASK or bust |
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| Subject: | Re: ALASK or bust |
| From: | "west1m" <west1m(at)hotmail.com> |
OOPS! more non Kolb, but it a bit slow anyway...
My wife and I also went in 1979 when the whole way was dirt. We drove this old
Corviar (They use those motors in airplanes right??) and three of my buddies followed
us in a VW bus. He went through a couple of motors and I went through
a couple of trannies. New parts were non existent.
We passed this area. it was a row of signs then, when I saw it in 2006, it was
a city of signs.
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West1m
Hastings, MN
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| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
Well the runway finally dried out and the wind momentarily quit blowing,
and I ran out of excuses. I rolled the plane out and went out to do some
touch and go'es and I took some videos of the basic AOA indicator, and will
work on organizing them later.
I wanted to find out how much movement there would be from level flight,
Wing at 9 degrees, and stall. I built a vane that was 5 1/2 inches long.
Picture is attachment "aoa 1". I then put a piece of tape on the inside of
the wind screen marked by inches. I located this entire set up on the wrap
around wind screen just in front of my knee, figuring that I could see it
out of my perifial vision while I was checking the ASI. It was visible to
the eye, but not in a very good position to record on a video camera.
Regardless of that I found that the plane flew flat and level at the 9
degree mark that I had put on the screen, and began to burble at a level
that was 1 5/8 from that mark.
The only surprise was that I would rarely on purpose fly the plane that
close to a stall. Of course I have about 655 hours on this plane so it is
no surprise that I have developed defenses against screwing it up.
The things that I learned from this are:
That the plane will be very difficult if not impossible to stall at full
throttle. At least it is very difficult for me to pull it up that much.
That the vane is not a necessity. a piece of yarn would do just as well,
and while not as "swavey" as a lighted AOA, is just as visible.
Because of the design of the Kolb, there is very little time and not enough
inertia for one to fool around when approaching a stall, and be able to
recover before something bad happened. An 11 inch piece of yarn would be
showing 3 1/4 inches approaching burble. The yarn would also eliminate the
problem of some yoyo messing with a metal vane. It would also give you
enough warning that even approaching a stall would be quite obvious.
I was happy to learn that I didn't seem to be all that rusty even though I
haven't flown for several months, and that I still enjoyed it. The tires as
you may remember were secured with some expensive stainless steel 3/4 inch
screws, 12 per tire. I put 6 pounds of pressure in them when I originally
fixed the tires. One of my landings I was paying more attention to the AOA
than landing and I dropped it from about a foot off the ground. The cushion
was quite noticeable and not unpleasant. I am quite pleased and happy that
I did it.
Larry
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| From: | Brad Nation <nationcap(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Tire Replacement |
Thanks for all the suggestions and help. I finally got the tires off
with the help of a Harbor Freight mini tire changer. It took a bit but
worked like a charm.
One question though, there was a busted O-Ring inside one of the tires
between the wheel halfs but not the other and I couldn=99t tell
where it went. Any comments or suggestions?
Brad
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Tire Replacement |
I run tubes in my MKIII. Don't need the o rings in MATCOs with tubes.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brad Nation
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2016 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tire Replacement
Thanks for all the suggestions and help. I finally got the tires off
with the help of a Harbor Freight mini tire changer. It took a bit but
worked like a charm.
One question though, there was a busted O-Ring inside one of the tires
between the wheel halfs but not the other and I couldn=99t tell
where it went. Any comments or suggestions?
Brad
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| Subject: | Re: Tire Replacement |
| From: | Gary Aman <zeprep251(at)aol.com> |
Think the o ring makes it tubeless
Sent from my iPhone
> On Feb 21, 2016, at 9:21 PM, Brad Nation wrote:
>
> Thanks for all the suggestions and help. I finally got the tires off with
the help of a Harbor Freight mini tire changer. It took a bit but worked l
ike a charm.
> One question though, there was a busted O-Ring inside one of the tires bet
ween the wheel halfs but not the other and I couldn=99t tell where it w
ent. Any comments or suggestions?
>
> Brad
>
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| From: | Brad Nation <nationcap(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Tire Replacement |
I=99m using tubs as well. So perhaps the O-ring was left over
from the previous owner.
Brad Nation
MKIII Xtra
Albuquerque, NM
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| From: | "George Bearden" <gab16(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Tire Replacement |
When I change motorcycle tires I use the weight of my F250. I lay the tire
under the edge of the truck, somewhere near the middle for convenience. I
have a stout long 4x4 I use for a lever. I put a short 2x4 on the tire,
extending up. The end of the 4x4 goes under the truck frame, the 2x4 gets
pushed down when I push down on the 4x4. You can get 500-700# pressure
easily this way. But you'll have to come here to do it unless you supply
your own truck. :-)
Actually I hinged the short 2x4 to the 4x4 for much easier working, but I
dint wanna confuse anyone.
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| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
https://vimeo.com/156368644 password- owyheeflyer
This is the video that I took while testing my crude wind vane to get some
idea of how much movement would be expected leading up to a stall. I
intended to do it last night, but when I looked at the video of the GPS
speed, I about convinced my self that I had not stalled after all. I really
had run it until it began to burble, and saw no need to go any further than
that. Then when I saw that the GPS speed was 40 MPH, I was confused until I
realized that I was doing my stalls down wind, and the ASI was showing 29
MPH. I guess that is the reason they say that the stall speed can change,
but the Angle of Attack will not.
It was too windy to fly today, but I have changed out the vane and replaced
it with a 12 inch piece of yarn. I will mark it where I expect it to stall,
and by lengthening it, the ability to see when it will stall will be at
least doubled by the longer piece of yarn.
Larry
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| From: | "Richard Pike" <thegreybaron(at)charter.net> |
Thank you for doing that. Finished the winter maintenance on the MKIII, did a couple
test flights and am now airworthy again, however my AOA meter is still sitting
on the work bench awaiting the arrival of the gauge itself. So your comments
have given me an idea of what baseline alignment ought to be.
--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Would you consider yourself to be a good person?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcDXT6pH7A
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
Forget about ground speed when flying, except to calculate your ETA back
to the barn.
Easy to screw up turning base to final, near the stall, with a little
tail wind. Perceived ground speed is high, air speed is low. That is
why I continually cross check my ASI. Takes a split second to scan.
Doesn't cost anything. ;-)
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry
Cottrell
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 1:39 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: AOA video
https://vimeo.com/156368644 password- owyheeflyer
This is the video that I took while testing my crude wind vane to get
some idea of how much movement would be expected leading up to a stall.
I intended to do it last night, but when I looked at the video of the
GPS speed, I about convinced my self that I had not stalled after all. I
really had run it until it began to burble, and saw no need to go any
further than that. Then when I saw that the GPS speed was 40 MPH, I was
confused until I realized that I was doing my stalls down wind, and the
ASI was showing 29 MPH. I guess that is the reason they say that the
stall speed can change, but the Angle of Attack will not.
It was too windy to fly today, but I have changed out the vane and
replaced it with a 12 inch piece of yarn. I will mark it where I expect
it to stall, and by lengthening it, the ability to see when it will
stall will be at least doubled by the longer piece of yarn.
Larry
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| From: | Charlie England <ceengland7(at)gmail.com> |
On 2/23/2016 1:38 AM, Larry Cottrell wrote:
> https://vimeo.com/156368644 password- owyheeflyer
>
> This is the video that I took while testing my crude wind vane to get
> some idea of how much movement would be expected leading up to a
> stall. I intended to do it last night, but when I looked at the video
> of the GPS speed, I about convinced my self that I had not stalled
> after all. I really had run it until it began to burble, and saw no
> need to go any further than that. Then when I saw that the GPS speed
> was 40 MPH, I was confused until I realized that I was doing my stalls
> down wind, and the ASI was showing 29 MPH. I guess that is the reason
> they say that the stall speed can change, but the Angle of Attack will
> not.
>
> It was too windy to fly today, but I have changed out the vane and
> replaced it with a 12 inch piece of yarn. I will mark it where I
> expect it to stall, and by lengthening it, the ability to see when it
> will stall will be at least doubled by the longer piece of yarn.
>
> Larry
GPS ground speed is irrelevant to stall speed, just as it's irrelevant
to airspeed in general. Stall indicated airspeed changes with weight,
assuming a 1 G stall. (Stall *true* airspeed changes with density altitude.)
To see the effects of changing indicated airspeed at stall, get your AOA
working consistently and reliably, and fly a stall series with minimal
fuel and as light a payload as possible. Note the indicated airspeed and
AOA at stall. Then load the plane up with full fuel and max payload to
gross weight, and fly another stall series. You should see a higher
indicated airspeed at stall, but the same AOA.
(GPS ground speed can vary all over the map, depending on wind
speed/direction at that moment & your heading when doing the stall series.)
Charlie
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| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
https://vimeo.com/156496788 password- owyheeflyer
I replaced the vane with a piece of yarn that was 12 inches long, reasoning
that a longer indicator would allow better decisions- sooner. I was quite
happy with the results, and found that the longer yarn did give ample
warning before stall.
Larry
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
Looked like it worked pretty good, except for the tail flutter.
Beautiful day at the Rock House.
We are, and have been most of the day and night, under severe tornado
watch. Can't tell it by me.
john
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[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry
Cottrell
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 8:20 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: AOA test 2
https://vimeo.com/156496788 password- owyheeflyer
I replaced the vane with a piece of yarn that was 12 inches long,
reasoning that a longer indicator would allow better decisions- sooner.
I was quite happy with the results, and found that the longer yarn did
give ample warning before stall.
Larry
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| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
The tail flutter was during the stall. I also noticed that the air vent
would bang open during a stall.
Hope it misses you.
Larry
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 8:28 PM, John Hauck wrote:
> Looked like it worked pretty good, except for the tail flutter.
>
>
> Beautiful day at the Rock House.
>
>
> We are, and have been most of the day and night, under severe tornado
> watch. Can't tell it by me.
>
>
> john
>
>
> *From:* owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Larry Cottrell
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 23, 2016 8:20 PM
> *To:* kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> *Subject:* Kolb-List: AOA test 2
>
>
> https://vimeo.com/156496788 password- owyheeflyer
>
>
> I replaced the vane with a piece of yarn that was 12 inches long,
> reasoning that a longer indicator would allow better decisions- sooner. I
> was quite happy with the results, and found that the longer yarn did give
> ample warning before stall.
>
> Larry
>
>
> --
>
> *The older I get, the less tolerant I am of those who are intolerant.*
>
>
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| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
Hopefully the weather will hold. I just heard from Richard at 12 mile, that
there is supposed to be a herd of Elk that numbers about 650 hanging out in
the Bowden Hills. Need to go see.
Larry
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 8:28 PM, John Hauck wrote:
> Looked like it worked pretty good, except for the tail flutter.
>
>
> Beautiful day at the Rock House.
>
>
> We are, and have been most of the day and night, under severe tornado
> watch. Can't tell it by me.
>
>
> john
>
>
> *From:* owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Larry Cottrell
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 23, 2016 8:20 PM
> *To:* kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> *Subject:* Kolb-List: AOA test 2
>
>
> https://vimeo.com/156496788 password- owyheeflyer
>
>
> I replaced the vane with a piece of yarn that was 12 inches long,
> reasoning that a longer indicator would allow better decisions- sooner. I
> was quite happy with the results, and found that the longer yarn did give
> ample warning before stall.
>
> Larry
>
>
> --
>
> *The older I get, the less tolerant I am of those who are intolerant.*
>
>
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| From: | Herb <Herbgh(at)nctc.com> |
Maybe the Elk are having a caucus?? :-) Herb
On 02/23/2016 10:20 PM, Larry Cottrell wrote:
> Hopefully the weather will hold. I just heard from Richard at 12 mile,
> that there is supposed to be a herd of Elk that numbers about 650
> hanging out in the Bowden Hills. Need to go see.
> Larry
>
> On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 8:28 PM, John Hauck > wrote:
>
> Looked like it worked pretty good, except for the tail flutter.
>
> Beautiful day at the Rock House.
>
> We are, and have been most of the day and night, under severe
> tornado watch.Can't tell it by me.
>
> john
>
> *From:*owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
>
> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
> ] *On Behalf Of
> *Larry Cottrell
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 23, 2016 8:20 PM
> *To:* kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> *Subject:* Kolb-List: AOA test 2
>
> https://vimeo.com/156496788 password- owyheeflyer
>
> I replaced the vane with a piece of yarn that was 12 inches long,
> reasoning that a longer indicator would allow better decisions-
> sooner. I was quite happy with the results, and found that the
> longer yarn did give ample warning before stall.
>
> Larry
>
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>
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| From: | Patrick Ladd <patrickjladd(at)hotmail.com> |
I have solved the problem of the lack of list activity (I think). For
some reason the posts have gone into `junk mail`. Never happened before.
I blame Windows 10. Pat
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| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
I must have been tired, it was Kolb related, but unintended. :-/
Larry
Herb via
matronics.com
12:15 AM (8 hours ago)
to kolb-list
Maybe the Elk are having a caucus?? :-) Herb
On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 12:15 AM, Herb wrote:
> Maybe the Elk are having a caucus?? :-) Herb
>
> On 02/23/2016 10:20 PM, Larry Cottrell wrote:
>
> Hopefully the weather will hold. I just heard from Richard at 12 mile,
> that there is supposed to be a herd of Elk that numbers about 650 hanging
> out in the Bowden Hills. Need to go see.
> Larry
>
> On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 8:28 PM, John Hauck wrote:
>
>> Looked like it worked pretty good, except for the tail flutter.
>>
>>
>>
>> Beautiful day at the Rock House.
>>
>>
>>
>> We are, and have been most of the day and night, under severe tornado
>> watch. Can't tell it by me.
>>
>>
>>
>> john
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:
>> owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Larry Cottrell
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 23, 2016 8:20 PM
>> *To:* kolb-list(at)matronics.com
>> *Subject:* Kolb-List: AOA test 2
>>
>>
>>
>> https://vimeo.com/156496788 password-
>> owyheeflyer
>>
>>
>>
>> I replaced the vane with a piece of yarn that was 12 inches long,
>> reasoning that a longer indicator would allow better decisions- sooner. I
>> was quite happy with the results, and found that the longer yarn did give
>> ample warning before stall.
>>
>> Larry
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> *The older I get, the less tolerant I am of those who are intolerant.*
>>
>>
>>
>> *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email
>> address before sending.*
>>
>
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| From: | "keith keith" <kac_86(at)yahoo.com> |
i'am new to kolbs bought one last spring , now have 15 hrs. have slowed to 30
mph and called it a stall, but realty didn't, has anyone held it so it reacted
significantly ? I want to know what it will do. thanks keith
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| From: | Bill Berle <victorbravo(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | Re: list activity |
I blame Windows 8 for the decline of humanity, famine, flood, locusts, and the
AIDS virus. Windows 10 will be even worse I'm afraid.
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
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On Wed, 2/24/16, Patrick Ladd wrote:
Subject: Kolb-List: list activity
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Wednesday, February 24, 2016, 5:41 AM
I have solved the problem of the lack of list activity
(I think). For some
reason the posts have gone into `junk mail`. Never happened
before. I blame
Windows 10. Pat
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| Subject: | Re: list activity |
| From: | Herb <Herbgh(at)nctc.com> |
Speaking of mans inhumanity to man....anyone talked to Travis
lately....I have called his home several times to no avail.... Travis
is my bud..even though he seemed to always grab a few hundred dollar
bills out of my pocket each time I visited...
gotta run down to London, to the factory , one day soon... Getting
ready to start on a "sort of Firestar"....and need some parts... This
may be the nose driver plane...that I have thought about for some
time...half vw engine..that I have on hand...similar to the Bill Bronson
design... may call it the "Ugly Star" ! :-)
Under two gals an hour...84 lb engine...should be a good project...Herb
ps know I have said this several times before...but Linux Mint
17.3 , once installed and climbing the learning curve...will make one
quite independent...of Microsoft... and I have nothing against that
company... can install in a dual boot environment....so one can keep the
current operating system...Just allocate a few gigs of hard drive space
to it...and the install is simple,,,
On 02/24/2016 11:56 AM, Bill Berle wrote:
>
> I blame Windows 8 for the decline of humanity, famine, flood, locusts, and the
AIDS virus. Windows 10 will be even worse I'm afraid.
>
> Bill Berle
> www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
> www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Wed, 2/24/16, Patrick Ladd wrote:
>
> Subject: Kolb-List: list activity
> To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> Date: Wednesday, February 24, 2016, 5:41 AM
>
>
>
>
>
> I have solved the problem of the lack of list activity
> (I think). For some
> reason the posts have gone into `junk mail`. Never happened
> before. I blame
> Windows 10. Pat
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: list activity |
| From: | kinne russ <russk50(at)gmail.com> |
Bill B
I hear your comments and agree. Why dont you get a Mac?
Theres good reason why they cost twice as much. Theyre worth it.
This is Kolb-related somehow. Kolbers, ditch your PCs and get Macs!
Russ K
> On Feb 24, 2016, at 12:56 PM, Bill Berle wrote:
>
>
> I blame Windows 8 for the decline of humanity, famine, flood, locusts, and the
AIDS virus. Windows 10 will be even worse I'm afraid.
>
> Bill Berle
> www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
> www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Wed, 2/24/16, Patrick Ladd wrote:
>
> Subject: Kolb-List: list activity
> To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> Date: Wednesday, February 24, 2016, 5:41 AM
>
>
>
>
>
> I have solved the problem of the lack of list activity
> (I think). For some
> reason the posts have gone into `junk mail`. Never happened
> before. I blame
> Windows 10. Pat
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: list activity |
| From: | "Richard Pike" <thegreybaron(at)charter.net> |
Travis is on FaceBook, posting pictures of old cars, pickin a banjo, and eating.
https://www.facebook.com/travis.brown.14418?fref=ts
--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Would you consider yourself to be a good person?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcDXT6pH7A
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| From: | Bill Berle <victorbravo(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | Re: list activity |
I bought a little Android tablet computer and downloaded the AvAre moving map GPS
thing. Works beautifully, even for me as a computer non-expert. To power this
tablet in-flight all I need is a USB port somewhere in the plane to plug it
into, and I will have the ability to fly a Kolb (or my 172) with the precision
of a $500M airliner.
Apple decided to build some or all of their products without a USB port. In an
age where USB devices provide almost unlimited options, capabilities, devices,
etc..... Apple turning up its nose at the USB (and not providing any alternative)
is just the height of arrogance.
What if I manufactured a new car that didn't have air conditioning, and air conditioning
was not an option, because I just didn't want you to have it available?
It wouldn't matter if the car got better mileage or was prettier; you simply
could not have something that the majority of car owners want.
In my case, my Kolb (just bought a used FS kit) may not have electrical power.
But thankfully, my tablet can be recharged by little portable battery power units
that I can take with me. What a great option for me to have! Guess where those
battery power units plug in to the tablet?
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
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On Wed, 2/24/16, kinne russ wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: list activity
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Wednesday, February 24, 2016, 12:03 PM
kinne russ
Bill B
I hear your comments and agree. Why dont you get a Mac?
Theres good reason why they cost twice as much.
Theyre worth it.
This is Kolb-related somehow. Kolbers, ditch your PCs and
get Macs!
Russ K
> On Feb 24, 2016, at 12:56 PM, Bill Berle
wrote:
>
>
> I blame Windows 8 for the decline of humanity, famine,
flood, locusts, and the AIDS virus. Windows 10 will be even
worse I'm afraid.
>
> Bill Berle
> www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance
upgrade for light aircraft
> www.grantstar.net
- winning proposals for non-profit and
for-profit entities
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Wed, 2/24/16, Patrick Ladd
wrote:
>
> Subject: Kolb-List: list activity
> To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> Date: Wednesday, February 24, 2016, 5:41 AM
>
>
>
>
>
> I have solved the problem of the lack of list activity
> (I think). For some
> reason the posts have gone into `junk mail`. Never
happened
> before. I blame
> Windows 10. Pat
>
>
>
>
>
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| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
Yesterday I inadvertently posted that I was going to check for some Elk, so
today I did so. None were to be found! I took some video anyway, and
figured I would share. From the looks of things you are not having very
nice weather in the East, but it was nice here today. A bit cool 42 degrees
when I took off.
https://vimeo.com/156633142 password owyheeflyer
Larry
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*If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email
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| From: | kinne russ <russk50(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: another video |
A bit cool????? I workt in -63F once. your temps re near-tropical.
But many thanx your videos. Look forward to seeing some elk, sometime
Fair winds,
Russ K
> On Feb 24, 2016, at 7:58 PM, Larry Cottrell
wrote:
>
> Yesterday I inadvertently posted that I was going to check for some
Elk, so today I did so. None were to be found! I took some video anyway,
and figured I would share. =46rom the looks of things you are not having
very nice weather in the East, but it was nice here today. A bit cool 42
degrees when I took off.
>
> https://vimeo.com/156633142 password
owyheeflyer
>
> Larry
>
> --
> The older I get, the less tolerant I am of those who are intolerant.
>
> If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email
address before sending.
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: another video |
| From: | "west1m" <west1m(at)hotmail.com> |
Thanks for the Video Larry!
It's too cold for me to consider flyin' yet, good to see you out and about.
--------
West1m
Hastings, MN
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=453152#453152
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Patrick Ladd <patrickjladd(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: another video |
Nice video as always. Thanks. pity about the elk. Still, they are not
very bright and have probably gone off to vote for Trump!!!. Pat
From: Larry Cottrell
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 12:58 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: another video
Yesterday I inadvertently posted that I was going to check for some Elk,
so today I did so. None were to be found! I took some video anyway, and
figured I would share. From the looks of things you are not having very
nice weather in the East, but it was nice here today. A bit cool 42
degrees when I took off.
https://vimeo.com/156633142 password owyheeflyer
Larry
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If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email
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________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: another video |
| From: | Herb <Herbgh(at)nctc.com> |
All right Patrick!! Did you mother call you by your proper name when
you were a bad boy!! :-) Herb
On 02/25/2016 04:05 AM, Patrick Ladd wrote:
> Nice video as always. Thanks. pity about the elk. Still, they are not
> very bright and have probably gone off to vote for Trump!!!. Pat
> *From:* Larry Cottrell
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 25, 2016 12:58 AM
> *To:* kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> *Subject:* Kolb-List: another video
> Yesterday I inadvertently posted that I was going to check for some
> Elk, so today I did so. None were to be found! I took some video
> anyway, and figured I would share. From the looks of things you are
> not having very nice weather in the East, but it was nice here today.
> A bit cool 42 degrees when I took off.
> https://vimeo.com/156633142 password owyheeflyer
> Larry
> --
> /The older I get, the less tolerant I am of those who are intolerant./
> /
> /
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| From: | K I <wrk2win4u(at)msn.com> |
| Subject: | Re: another video |
Excellent video Larry, as usual!
Kurt
Twinstar Mark III
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 24, 2016, at 18:03, Larry Cottrell > wrote:
Yesterday I inadvertently posted that I was going to check for some Elk, so
today I did so. None were to be found! I took some video anyway, and figur
ed I would share. From the looks of things you are not having very nice wea
ther in the East, but it was nice here today. A bit cool 42 degrees when I
took off.
https://vimeo.com/156633142 password owyheeflyer
Larry
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If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email addres
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________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Bill Berle <victorbravo(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | Re: another video |
The fact that our situation has gotten to the point where Trump or Hillary are
the two most viable candidates to lead the nation.... THAT is the larger problem.
It's a significant failure of both the Democratic and Republican party systems
that they could not put forth a Kennedy, or a Reagan, or an Eisenhower, or
a Truman.
Anyway, with that off my chest, I'm waiting for my Firestar kit to arrive, and
I can't wait to get started on it. Can anyone here tell me which is the best or
best compromise choice for wheels brakes and tires, for my particular intended
use? I will be building up this Firestar specifically as an off-airport, back
country, extreme STOL aircraft to explore small landing areas. I want to do
the hilltops, and small mountain meadows, and dirt trails, the small clearings,
etc. So for this I need large tires and good brakes.
Which combinations of wheels/brakes/tires have been successful on the Kolb aircraft
for this type of mission?
Bill Berle
--------------------------------------------
On Thu, 2/25/16, Herb wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: another video
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Thursday, February 25, 2016, 4:45 AM
All right Patrick!! Did you mother call you by your
proper name
when you were a bad boy!! :-) Herb
On 02/25/2016 04:05 AM,
Patrick Ladd
wrote:
Nice video as always. Thanks. pity about the
elk. Still,
they are not very bright and have probably gone
off to vote
for Trump!!!. Pat
From: Larry
Cottrell
Sent: Thursday, February 25,
2016 12:58 AM
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Kolb-List: another
video
Yesterday I inadvertently posted
that I was
going to check for some Elk, so today I did
so. None were
to be found! I took some video anyway, and
figured I would
share. From the looks of things you are not
having very
nice weather in the East, but it was nice here
today. A
bit cool 42 degrees when I took off.
https://vimeo.com/156633142
password owyheeflyer
Larry
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older I get, the less tolerant
I am of
those who are
intolerant.
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or any part
of it, please remove my email
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sending.
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________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: another video |
| From: | Dave Kulp <undoctor(at)rcn.com> |
Bill,
This is a very friendly forum and injecting politics into it is a sure
way to reduce that great quality. Please keep your political opinions
at the poker table. Thanks.
Good luck building your Firestar. There's lots of good advice to be had
here, so don't hesitate to ask.
Dave Kulp
Bethlehem, PA
On 2/25/2016 12:53 PM, Bill Berle wrote:
>
> The fact that our situation has gotten to the point where Trump or Hillary are
the two most viable candidates to lead the nation.... THAT is the larger problem.
It's a significant failure of both the Democratic and Republican party systems
that they could not put forth a Kennedy, or a Reagan, or an Eisenhower,
or a Truman.
>
> Anyway, with that off my chest, I'm waiting for my Firestar kit to arrive, and
I can't wait to get started on it. Can anyone here tell me which is the best
or best compromise choice for wheels brakes and tires, for my particular intended
use? I will be building up this Firestar specifically as an off-airport,
back country, extreme STOL aircraft to explore small landing areas. I want to
do the hilltops, and small mountain meadows, and dirt trails, the small clearings,
etc. So for this I need large tires and good brakes.
>
> Which combinations of wheels/brakes/tires have been successful on the Kolb aircraft
for this type of mission?
>
> Bill Berle
>
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Thu, 2/25/16, Herb wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: another video
> To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> Date: Thursday, February 25, 2016, 4:45 AM
>
>
> All right Patrick!! Did you mother call you by your
> proper name
> when you were a bad boy!! :-) Herb
>
>
>
> On 02/25/2016 04:05 AM,
> Patrick Ladd
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Nice video as always. Thanks. pity about the
> elk. Still,
> they are not very bright and have probably gone
> off to vote
> for Trump!!!. Pat
>
>
>
>
> From: Larry
> Cottrell
>
> Sent: Thursday, February 25,
> 2016 12:58 AM
> To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
>
> Subject: Kolb-List: another
> video
>
>
>
>
>
> Yesterday I inadvertently posted
> that I was
> going to check for some Elk, so today I did
> so. None were
> to be found! I took some video anyway, and
> figured I would
> share. From the looks of things you are not
> having very
> nice weather in the East, but it was nice here
> today. A
> bit cool 42 degrees when I took off.
>
> https://vimeo.com/156633142
> password owyheeflyer
>
> Larry
>
>
> --
>
>
>
>
>
> The
> older I get, the less tolerant
> I am of
> those who are
> intolerant.
>
>
>
> If you forward this email,
> or any part
> of it, please remove my email
> address before
> sending.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
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> red light and turn left.
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: another video |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
One of the tire companies is now making "tundra tires" that will fit on the
6 inch rims that most are using. There was a recent (last 6 months) I think
from Nick Cassara about them. Fairly spendy however. I have 800 x 6 on my
firestar with the tires secured by screws so that I can run 6 lbs of air.
Other wise the tires spin when you land and shear off the valve stems. I
personally prefer individual brakes, and a breakaway tail wheel. You will
also need to brace the tail post, so that it can withstand the pressures
put on it by the individual braking.
I have 6 inch mech brakes, and it seems to be able to do the job for me. I
got on them a bit hard last year and it caused the plane to do little jumps
as it was bouncing the plane back up in the air. So I know that I get all
the braking that I need. I would prefer ?possibly? the hydrallic ones but
that requires buying two entire systems to have individual.
You will of course need VG's, and for that I would recommend JC Gilpin.
http://www.stolspeed.com/
Then of course you will need the 36 inch long tempered steel gear legs,
making sure that you have the heavy duty axle fittings.
I also recommend a Spot tracking unit, so that if worse comes to worse they
will know where to find you.
That will give you the best possibility to survive what you plan to do. The
only other thing that you will need is training, and some pretty big
cahones.
Larry
On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Bill Berle
wrote:
>
>
> Anyway, with that off my chest, I'm waiting for my Firestar kit to arrive,
> and I can't wait to get started on it. Can anyone here tell me which is the
> best or best compromise choice for wheels brakes and tires, for my
> particular intended use? I will be building up this Firestar specifically
> as an off-airport, back country, extreme STOL aircraft to explore small
> landing areas. I want to do the hilltops, and small mountain meadows, and
> dirt trails, the small clearings, etc. So for this I need large tires and
> good brakes.
>
> Which combinations of wheels/brakes/tires have been successful on the Kolb
> aircraft for this type of mission?
>
> Bill
>
>
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*If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email
address before sending.*
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Bill Berle <victorbravo(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | Re: another video |
Larry how do you put screws into the tires without puncturing the inner tube, or
generating cracks in the rim? If I'm seeing your photo right, are you flying
your FS up there in NV someplace? Where are you based?
I am planning on VG's (I know, I know... some people think they work and others
don't), and I am planning on an aluminum sheeted leading edge, and some other
STOL mods bouncing around in my head.
Larry does your FS have flaperons, or separate flaps, or no flap features?
I do have a little bit of training already, although it is not the formal back
country training like you can take classes in Idaho. I was once a sailplane racer
in the western US, and I've had my share of off-airport landings in the gilders,
in some really strange places (like the helicopter pad at the USMC Mountain
Warfare training facility in Bridgeport). I will be starting off a little
conservatively, especially since it will be a new type of aircraft for me.
Tell me about bracing the tailpost... braced in which direction, and braced to
what?
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
--------------------------------------------
On Thu, 2/25/16, Larry Cottrell wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: another video
To: "kolb-list(at)matronics.com"
Date: Thursday, February 25, 2016, 11:00 AM
One of the tire
companies is now making "tundra tires" that will
fit on the 6 inch rims that most are using. There was a
recent (last 6 months) I think from Nick Cassara about them.
Fairly spendy however. I have 800 x 6 on my firestar with
the tires secured by screws so that I can run 6 lbs of air.
Other wise the tires spin when you land and shear off the
valve stems. I personally prefer individual brakes, and a
breakaway tail wheel. You will also need to brace the tail
post, so that it can withstand the pressures put on it by
the individual braking.
I have 6 inch mech brakes, and it seems to be
able to do the job for me. I got on them a bit hard last
year and it caused the plane to do little jumps as it was
bouncing the plane back up in the air. So I know that I get
all the braking that I need. I would prefer ?possibly? the
hydrallic ones but that requires buying two entire systems
to have individual.
You will of course need VG's, and for that I
would recommend JC Gilpin.
http://www.stolspeed.com/
Then of course you will need the 36 inch long
tempered steel gear legs, making sure that you have the
heavy duty axle fittings.
I also recommend a Spot tracking unit, so that if
worse comes to worse they will know where to find
you.
That will give you the best possibility to
survive what you plan to do. The only other thing that you
will need is training, and some pretty big
cahones.Larry
On Thu, Feb 25, 2016
at 10:53 AM, Bill Berle
wrote:
-->
Kolb-List message posted by: Bill Berle
Anyway, with that off my chest, I'm waiting for my
Firestar kit to arrive, and I can't wait to get started
on it. Can anyone here tell me which is the best or best
compromise choice for wheels brakes and tires, for my
particular intended use? I will be building up this Firestar
specifically as an off-airport, back country, extreme STOL
aircraft to explore small landing areas. I want to do the
hilltops, and small mountain meadows, and dirt trails, the
small clearings, etc. So for this I need large tires and
good brakes.
Which combinations of wheels/brakes/tires have been
successful on the Kolb aircraft for this type of mission?
Bill
--
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tolerant I am of those who are
intolerant.
If you forward this email, or any part of
it, please remove my email address before sending.
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: another video |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
http://www.jegs.com/p/JEGS-Performance-Products/JEGS-Wheel-Rim-to-Tire-Screw-Kit/756883/10002/-1
It was pointed out to me that you could get the screws cheaper than what I
spent on these. YOu just need to have the right size drill bit because you
want to cut some threads into the rim. I don't think you are going to have
any problem with Alum rims cracking.
The rim is aluminum, and the bead of the tire is big enough that the screws
don't touch the tube. I did however use a washer between the screws and the
rim to make sure. Almost all of the tundra tires are secured to the rim
with screws.
Firestar's do not have flaps or flaperons. I have been told that they don't
need them.
I don't know about alum leading edges and stuff, but the plane will perform
better the lighter it is. Your decision of course.
Disclaimer: I am not a "builder" as such. All and any advice is worth what
you paid for it.
Larry
On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 12:38 PM, Bill Berle
wrote:
>
> Larry how do you put screws into the tires without puncturing the inner
> tube, or generating cracks in the rim? If I'm seeing your photo right, are
> you flying your FS up there in NV someplace? Where are you based?
>
> I am planning on VG's (I know, I know... some people think they work and
> others don't), and I am planning on an aluminum sheeted leading edge, and
> some other STOL mods bouncing around in my head.
>
> Larry does your FS have flaperons, or separate flaps, or no flap features?
>
> I do have a little bit of training already, although it is not the formal
> back country training like you can take classes in Idaho. I was once a
> sailplane racer in the western US, and I've had my share of off-airport
> landings in the gilders, in some really strange places (like the helicopter
> pad at the USMC Mountain Warfare training facility in Bridgeport). I will
> be starting off a little conservatively, especially since it will be a new
> type of aircraft for me.
>
> Tell me about bracing the tailpost... braced in which direction, and
> braced to what?
>
> Bill Berle
> www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
> www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and
> for-profit entities
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Thu, 2/25/16, Larry Cottrell wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: another video
> To: "kolb-list(at)matronics.com"
> Date: Thursday, February 25, 2016, 11:00 AM
>
> One of the tire
> companies is now making "tundra tires" that will
> fit on the 6 inch rims that most are using. There was a
> recent (last 6 months) I think from Nick Cassara about them.
> Fairly spendy however. I have 800 x 6 on my firestar with
> the tires secured by screws so that I can run 6 lbs of air.
> Other wise the tires spin when you land and shear off the
> valve stems. I personally prefer individual brakes, and a
> breakaway tail wheel. You will also need to brace the tail
> post, so that it can withstand the pressures put on it by
> the individual braking.
> I have 6 inch mech brakes, and it seems to be
> able to do the job for me. I got on them a bit hard last
> year and it caused the plane to do little jumps as it was
> bouncing the plane back up in the air. So I know that I get
> all the braking that I need. I would prefer ?possibly? the
> hydrallic ones but that requires buying two entire systems
> to have individual.
> You will of course need VG's, and for that I
> would recommend JC Gilpin.
> http://www.stolspeed.com/
> Then of course you will need the 36 inch long
> tempered steel gear legs, making sure that you have the
> heavy duty axle fittings.
> I also recommend a Spot tracking unit, so that if
> worse comes to worse they will know where to find
> you.
> That will give you the best possibility to
> survive what you plan to do. The only other thing that you
> will need is training, and some pretty big
> cahones.Larry
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2016
> at 10:53 AM, Bill Berle
> wrote:
> -->
> Kolb-List message posted by: Bill Berle
>
>
> Anyway, with that off my chest, I'm waiting for my
> Firestar kit to arrive, and I can't wait to get started
> on it. Can anyone here tell me which is the best or best
> compromise choice for wheels brakes and tires, for my
> particular intended use? I will be building up this Firestar
> specifically as an off-airport, back country, extreme STOL
> aircraft to explore small landing areas. I want to do the
> hilltops, and small mountain meadows, and dirt trails, the
> small clearings, etc. So for this I need large tires and
> good brakes.
>
>
> Which combinations of wheels/brakes/tires have been
> successful on the Kolb aircraft for this type of mission?
>
>
> Bill
>
>
> --
> The older I get, the less
> tolerant I am of those who are
> intolerant.
> If you forward this email, or any part of
> it, please remove my email address before sending.
>
>
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*If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email
address before sending.*
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: another video |
These are the largest tires I could find for a 6" rim. There may be some that
are larger in diameter but they are also much wider and width causes a lot of
drag for little or no improvement on the ground. This tire comes in two versions.
One with a full set of treads and one that is considerably lighter and has
a lot of the rubber removed from the tread.
http://www.desser.com/pc_combined_results.asp?pc_id=3F1FE0C9AD1D4CADBD51347914A186EF
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=453223#453223
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Bracing the tailwheel |
| From: | B Young <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com> |
Without bracing the lower vertical stabilizer the side loads from the tail
wheel will overstress the attachment of the lower vertical stabilizer where
it attaches to the steel ring on the end of the tail boom.
With that in mind if you could take some (some have used round tube,,, I
used some 3/16. X 1 inch alum stock). Place it between the attach point
of the lower vertical brace wires and just below center on the steel ring
on the end of the tail boom. Use a small bolt in place of one of the
rivets called for. Put one on each side. This will triangulate the lower
vertical stabilizer against side load movement preventing breakage.
Boyd Young
Mkiii
Utah
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: another video |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
These tires ( Buffed smooth) are actually about 4 pounds lighter than the
800 x6 that I currently have on my plane. They will also make your wallet a
lot lighter as well.
Larry
On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 9:04 AM, Jason Omelchuck <jason@trek-tech.com>
wrote:
>
> These are the largest tires I could find for a 6" rim. There may be some
> that are larger in diameter but they are also much wider and width causes a
> lot of drag for little or no improvement on the ground. This tire comes in
> two versions. One with a full set of treads and one that is considerably
> lighter and has a lot of the rubber removed from the tread.
>
>
> http://www.desser.com/pc_combined_results.asp?pc_id=3F1FE0C9AD1D4CADBD51347914A186EF
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=453223#453223
>
>
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*If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email
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________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: another video |
I agree. Doubt I'd pay that much money for someone to wear the tread
off my tire.
I have run 8x6 air trac ribs for many, many hours and made many, many
landings. Still have a lot of life left in them. I don't notice the
weight. Have enough horses note to have to worry about a couple pounds
here and there. I run 6 psi in mine without screws, but the MATCO rims
grab much better than the rims Larry C is using.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry
Cottrell
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: another video
These tires ( Buffed smooth) are actually about 4 pounds lighter than
the 800 x6 that I currently have on my plane. They will also make your
wallet a lot lighter as well.
Larry
On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 9:04 AM, Jason Omelchuck <jason@trek-tech.com>
wrote:
These are the largest tires I could find for a 6" rim. There may be
some that are larger in diameter but they are also much wider and width
causes a lot of drag for little or no improvement on the ground. This
tire comes in two versions. One with a full set of treads and one that
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| Subject: | Hydraulic brakes? |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
>
> I am considering changing to a Hydraulic system for my Firestar ll. I have
> looked at O'brian and Black Max so far. The only problem is that I want two
> hand operation. ( individual braking) It appears that will run about $500
> bucks or more. Somehow I hate to do that, but still might depending on the
> feed back I can get from those using hydraulic braking. BCC is fine -
> lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com I only want to do this once, and I hate buyer
> remorse.
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| From: | "Stuart Harner" <stuart(at)harnerfarm.net> |
| Subject: | Hydraulic brakes? |
Larry,
I have the Black Max setup on my Firefly. Individual toe brakes though,
not a hand brake. This included the wheels and tires and was purchased
as an option when I bought the kit.
Some people say you don=99t need brakes at all and especially not
individual brakes on the Firefly. As a general rule I don=99t use
them much. However, it is nice to be able to keep the engine RPM up and
still taxi at a reasonable speed on pavement or not move at all.
Occasionally I use them to help on a turn, although without a swiveling
tail wheel like you have the effect is not as noticeable. I am not sure
how you would rig the dual hand levers for individual brakes. One lever
on the stick and one on the throttle? J
Anyway, I have no regrets getting the Black Max setup. Easy to install
and simple in design.
Stuart
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
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Cottrell
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 2:11 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Hydraulic brakes?
I am considering changing to a Hydraulic system for my Firestar ll. I
have looked at O'brian and Black Max so far. The only problem is that I
want two hand operation. ( individual braking) It appears that will run
about $500 bucks or more. Somehow I hate to do that, but still might
depending on the feed back I can get from those using hydraulic braking.
BCC is fine - lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com I only want to do this once, and
I hate buyer remorse.
Larry
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| Subject: | Re: Hydraulic brakes? |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
Thanks for the reply. After checking I may have to forego the dual hand
brakes and stick with heel brakes. It would run about $550 for two separate
systems. I am using mechanical heel brakes now, and may have to stick with
that.
If you have not already braced the tail post on you fly, you should really
consider it.
Thanks again,
Larry
On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Stuart Harner
wrote:
> Larry,
>
>
> I have the Black Max setup on my Firefly. Individual toe brakes though,
> not a hand brake. This included the wheels and tires and was purchased as
> an option when I bought the kit.
>
>
> Some people say you don=99t need brakes at all and especially not i
ndividual
> brakes on the Firefly. As a general rule I don=99t use them much.
However,
> it is nice to be able to keep the engine RPM up and still taxi at a
> reasonable speed on pavement or not move at all.
>
>
> Occasionally I use them to help on a turn, although without a swiveling
> tail wheel like you have the effect is not as noticeable. I am not sure h
ow
> you would rig the dual hand levers for individual brakes. One lever on th
e
> stick and one on the throttle? J
>
>
> Anyway, I have no regrets getting the Black Max setup. Easy to install an
d
> simple in design.
>
>
> Stuart
>
>
> *From:* owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Larry Cottrell
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 28, 2016 2:11 PM
> *To:* kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> *Subject:* Kolb-List: Hydraulic brakes?
>
>
> I am considering changing to a Hydraulic system for my Firestar ll. I hav
e
> looked at O'brian and Black Max so far. The only problem is that I want t
wo
> hand operation. ( individual braking) It appears that will run about $500
> bucks or more. Somehow I hate to do that, but still might depending on th
e
> feed back I can get from those using hydraulic braking. BCC is fine -
> lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com I only want to do this once, and I hate buyer
> remorse.
>
>
> Larry
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Hydraulic brakes? |
| From: | Herb <Herbgh(at)nctc.com> |
you can save most of that 550 dollars by using Mtn bike disc
brakes...either hydraulic or mechanical...Gotta be a bit mechanically
inclined...will need to make a couple of spools that attach the disc to
the rim...and a couple of adapter plates that attach the caliper to the
large washer that is welded to the axle... I found my mechanical
versions at the salvage yard...for maybe 5 bucks.... Requires some
design work...but was a good two day project...
Ebay has both styles...Herb
On 02/28/2016 06:11 PM, Larry Cottrell wrote:
> Thanks for the reply. After checking I may have to forego the dual
> hand brakes and stick with heel brakes. It would run about $550 for
> two separate systems. I am using mechanical heel brakes now, and may
> have to stick with that.
>
> If you have not already braced the tail post on you fly, you should
> really consider it.
>
> Thanks again,
> Larry
>
> On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Stuart Harner > wrote:
>
> Larry,
>
> I have the Black Max setup on my Firefly. Individual toe brakes
> though, not a hand brake. This included the wheels and tires and
> was purchased as an option when I bought the kit.
>
> Some people say you dont need brakes at all and especially not
> individual brakes on the Firefly. As a general rule I dont use
> them much. However, it is nice to be able to keep the engine RPM
> up and still taxi at a reasonable speed on pavement or not move at
> all.
>
> Occasionally I use them to help on a turn, although without a
> swiveling tail wheel like you have the effect is not as
> noticeable. I am not sure how you would rig the dual hand levers
> for individual brakes. One lever on the stick and one on the
> throttle? J
>
> Anyway, I have no regrets getting the Black Max setup. Easy to
> install and simple in design.
>
> Stuart
>
> *From:*owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
>
> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
> ] *On Behalf Of
> *Larry Cottrell
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 28, 2016 2:11 PM
> *To:* kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> *Subject:* Kolb-List: Hydraulic brakes?
>
> I am considering changing to a Hydraulic system for my
> Firestar ll. I have looked at O'brian and Black Max so far.
> The only problem is that I want two hand operation. (
> individual braking) It appears that will run about $500 bucks
> or more. Somehow I hate to do that, but still might depending
> on the feed back I can get from those using hydraulic braking.
> BCC is fine - lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com
> I only want to do this once,
> and I hate buyer remorse.
>
> Larry
>
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| Subject: | Re: Hydraulic brakes? |
| From: | "west1m" <west1m(at)hotmail.com> |
I put the Black Max hydraulic brakes on my firefly. I use a dual hand control by
the throttle. Quite handy, no regrets.
--------
West1m
Hastings, MN
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| Subject: | Re: Hydraulic brakes? |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
Do you remember the cost for dual controls?
Larry
On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 8:59 PM, west1m wrote:
>
> I put the Black Max hydraulic brakes on my firefly. I use a dual hand
> control by the throttle. Quite handy, no regrets.
>
> --------
> West1m
> Hastings, MN
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=453278#453278
>
>
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| From: | "Stuart Harner" <stuart(at)harnerfarm.net> |
| Subject: | Hydraulic brakes? |
Yeah, that is on my =9Cto do=9D list for this spring before
flying season. I haven=99t settled on exactly how to do it yet.
Also need to cut out all the inspection holes and have a real good
look-see inside. About 15 hours in the air, I figure it is about time
for a new bird. Many other =9Clittle details=9D to attend
too as well. Weather is getting better every day
Stuart
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry
Cottrell
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Hydraulic brakes?
Thanks for the reply. After checking I may have to forego the dual hand
brakes and stick with heel brakes. It would run about $550 for two
separate systems. I am using mechanical heel brakes now, and may have to
stick with that.
If you have not already braced the tail post on you fly, you should
really consider it.
Thanks again,
Larry
On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Stuart Harner
wrote:
Larry,
I have the Black Max setup on my Firefly. Individual toe brakes though,
not a hand brake. This included the wheels and tires and was purchased
as an option when I bought the kit.
Some people say you don=99t need brakes at all and especially not
individual brakes on the Firefly. As a general rule I don=99t use
them much. However, it is nice to be able to keep the engine RPM up and
still taxi at a reasonable speed on pavement or not move at all.
Occasionally I use them to help on a turn, although without a swiveling
tail wheel like you have the effect is not as noticeable. I am not sure
how you would rig the dual hand levers for individual brakes. One lever
on the stick and one on the throttle? J
Anyway, I have no regrets getting the Black Max setup. Easy to install
and simple in design.
Stuart
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry
Cottrell
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 2:11 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Hydraulic brakes?
I am considering changing to a Hydraulic system for my Firestar ll. I
have looked at O'brian and Black Max so far. The only problem is that I
want two hand operation. ( individual braking) It appears that will run
about $500 bucks or more. Somehow I hate to do that, but still might
depending on the feed back I can get from those using hydraulic braking.
BCC is fine - lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com I only want to do this once, and
I hate buyer remorse.
Larry
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| From: | "Lee" <lmorgan100(at)charter.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 02/28/16 |
Larry,
I used hydraulic mountain bike brakes on my Twinstar MKII. I used 2 brake
handles on the control stick and I can activate either side or both at the
same time with just my fingers. The cost was about $100. total. They hold
really well, I can power it up until it noses over. I did have to make all
the mounting hardware and it has to be accurate so it doesn't rub. I have
never used toe brakes and thought I would have a problem because I operate
out of a rough field and could picture my feet bouncing on and off the
brakes at just the wrong time.
Lee
Today's Message Index:
----------------------
1. 12:11 PM - Hydraulic brakes? (Larry Cottrell)
2. 03:33 PM - Re: Hydraulic brakes? (Stuart Harner)
3. 04:11 PM - Re: Hydraulic brakes? (Larry Cottrell)
4. 05:32 PM - Re: Hydraulic brakes? (Herb)
5. 08:00 PM - Re: Hydraulic brakes? (west1m)
6. 08:06 PM - Re: Re: Hydraulic brakes? (Larry Cottrell)
7. 08:34 PM - Re: Hydraulic brakes? (Stuart Harner)
________________________________ Message 1
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Subject: Kolb-List: Hydraulic brakes?
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>
>
> I am considering changing to a Hydraulic system for my Firestar ll. I have
> looked at O'brian and Black Max so far. The only problem is that I want
> two
> hand operation. ( individual braking) It appears that will run about $500
> bucks or more. Somehow I hate to do that, but still might depending on the
> feed back I can get from those using hydraulic braking. BCC is fine -
> lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com I only want to do this once, and I hate buyer
> remorse.
Larry
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From: "Stuart Harner" <stuart(at)harnerfarm.net>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Hydraulic brakes?
Larry,
I have the Black Max setup on my Firefly. Individual toe brakes though,
not a hand brake. This included the wheels and tires and was purchased
as an option when I bought the kit.
Some people say you don=99t need brakes at all and especially not
individual brakes on the Firefly. As a general rule I don=99t use
them much. However, it is nice to be able to keep the engine RPM up and
still taxi at a reasonable speed on pavement or not move at all.
Occasionally I use them to help on a turn, although without a swiveling
tail wheel like you have the effect is not as noticeable. I am not sure
how you would rig the dual hand levers for individual brakes. One lever
on the stick and one on the throttle? J
Anyway, I have no regrets getting the Black Max setup. Easy to install
and simple in design.
Stuart
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry
Cottrell
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 2:11 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Hydraulic brakes?
I am considering changing to a Hydraulic system for my Firestar ll. I
have looked at O'brian and Black Max so far. The only problem is that I
want two hand operation. ( individual braking) It appears that will run
about $500 bucks or more. Somehow I hate to do that, but still might
depending on the feed back I can get from those using hydraulic braking.
BCC is fine - lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com I only want to do this once, and
I hate buyer remorse.
Larry
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Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Hydraulic brakes?
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>
Thanks for the reply. After checking I may have to forego the dual hand
brakes and stick with heel brakes. It would run about $550 for two separate
systems. I am using mechanical heel brakes now, and may have to stick with
that.
If you have not already braced the tail post on you fly, you should really
consider it.
Thanks again,
Larry
On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Stuart Harner
wrote:
> Larry,
>
>
> I have the Black Max setup on my Firefly. Individual toe brakes though,
> not a hand brake. This included the wheels and tires and was purchased as
> an option when I bought the kit.
>
>
> Some people say you don=99t need brakes at all and especially not i
ndividual
> brakes on the Firefly. As a general rule I don=99t use them much.
However,
> it is nice to be able to keep the engine RPM up and still taxi at a
> reasonable speed on pavement or not move at all.
>
>
> Occasionally I use them to help on a turn, although without a swiveling
> tail wheel like you have the effect is not as noticeable. I am not sure h
ow
> you would rig the dual hand levers for individual brakes. One lever on th
e
> stick and one on the throttle? J
>
>
> Anyway, I have no regrets getting the Black Max setup. Easy to install an
d
> simple in design.
>
>
> Stuart
>
>
> *From:* owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Larry Cottrell
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 28, 2016 2:11 PM
> *To:* kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> *Subject:* Kolb-List: Hydraulic brakes?
>
>
> I am considering changing to a Hydraulic system for my Firestar ll. I hav
e
> looked at O'brian and Black Max so far. The only problem is that I want t
wo
> hand operation. ( individual braking) It appears that will run about $500
> bucks or more. Somehow I hate to do that, but still might depending on th
e
> feed back I can get from those using hydraulic braking. BCC is fine -
> lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com I only want to do this once, and I hate buyer
> remorse.
>
>
> Larry
>
>
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>
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>
>
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________________________________ Message 4
_____________________________________
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Hydraulic brakes?
From: Herb <Herbgh(at)nctc.com>
you can save most of that 550 dollars by using Mtn bike disc
brakes...either hydraulic or mechanical...Gotta be a bit mechanically
inclined...will need to make a couple of spools that attach the disc to
the rim...and a couple of adapter plates that attach the caliper to the
large washer that is welded to the axle... I found my mechanical
versions at the salvage yard...for maybe 5 bucks.... Requires some
design work...but was a good two day project...
Ebay has both styles...Herb
On 02/28/2016 06:11 PM, Larry Cottrell wrote:
> Thanks for the reply. After checking I may have to forego the dual
> hand brakes and stick with heel brakes. It would run about $550 for
> two separate systems. I am using mechanical heel brakes now, and may
> have to stick with that.
>
> If you have not already braced the tail post on you fly, you should
> really consider it.
>
> Thanks again,
> Larry
>
> On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Stuart Harner > wrote:
>
> Larry,
>
> I have the Black Max setup on my Firefly. Individual toe brakes
> though, not a hand brake. This included the wheels and tires and
> was purchased as an option when I bought the kit.
>
> Some people say you dont need brakes at all and especially not
> individual brakes on the Firefly. As a general rule I dont use
> them much. However, it is nice to be able to keep the engine RPM
> up and still taxi at a reasonable speed on pavement or not move at
> all.
>
> Occasionally I use them to help on a turn, although without a
> swiveling tail wheel like you have the effect is not as
> noticeable. I am not sure how you would rig the dual hand levers
> for individual brakes. One lever on the stick and one on the
> throttle? J
>
> Anyway, I have no regrets getting the Black Max setup. Easy to
> install and simple in design.
>
> Stuart
>
> *From:*owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
>
> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
> ] *On Behalf Of
> *Larry Cottrell
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 28, 2016 2:11 PM
> *To:* kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> *Subject:* Kolb-List: Hydraulic brakes?
>
> I am considering changing to a Hydraulic system for my
> Firestar ll. I have looked at O'brian and Black Max so far.
> The only problem is that I want two hand operation. (
> individual braking) It appears that will run about $500 bucks
> or more. Somehow I hate to do that, but still might depending
> on the feed back I can get from those using hydraulic braking.
> BCC is fine - lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com
> I only want to do this once,
> and I hate buyer remorse.
>
> Larry
>
> --
>
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>
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> email address before sending./
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________________________________ Message 5
_____________________________________
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Hydraulic brakes?
From: "west1m" <west1m(at)hotmail.com>
I put the Black Max hydraulic brakes on my firefly. I use a dual hand
control by
the throttle. Quite handy, no regrets.
--------
West1m
Hastings, MN
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=453278#453278
________________________________ Message 6
_____________________________________
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Hydraulic brakes?
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>
Do you remember the cost for dual controls?
Larry
On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 8:59 PM, west1m wrote:
>
> I put the Black Max hydraulic brakes on my firefly. I use a dual hand
> control by the throttle. Quite handy, no regrets.
>
> --------
> West1m
> Hastings, MN
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=453278#453278
>
>
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From: "Stuart Harner" <stuart(at)harnerfarm.net>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Hydraulic brakes?
Yeah, that is on my =9Cto do=9D list for this spring before
flying season. I haven=99t settled on exactly how to do it yet.
Also need to cut out all the inspection holes and have a real good
look-see inside. About 15 hours in the air, I figure it is about time
for a new bird. Many other =9Clittle details=9D to attend
too as well. Weather is getting better every day
Stuart
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry
Cottrell
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Hydraulic brakes?
Thanks for the reply. After checking I may have to forego the dual hand
brakes and stick with heel brakes. It would run about $550 for two
separate systems. I am using mechanical heel brakes now, and may have to
stick with that.
If you have not already braced the tail post on you fly, you should
really consider it.
Thanks again,
Larry
On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Stuart Harner
wrote:
Larry,
I have the Black Max setup on my Firefly. Individual toe brakes though,
not a hand brake. This included the wheels and tires and was purchased
as an option when I bought the kit.
Some people say you don=99t need brakes at all and especially not
individual brakes on the Firefly. As a general rule I don=99t use
them much. However, it is nice to be able to keep the engine RPM up and
still taxi at a reasonable speed on pavement or not move at all.
Occasionally I use them to help on a turn, although without a swiveling
tail wheel like you have the effect is not as noticeable. I am not sure
how you would rig the dual hand levers for individual brakes. One lever
on the stick and one on the throttle? J
Anyway, I have no regrets getting the Black Max setup. Easy to install
and simple in design.
Stuart
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Subject: Kolb-List: Hydraulic brakes?
I am considering changing to a Hydraulic system for my Firestar ll. I
have looked at O'brian and Black Max so far. The only problem is that I
want two hand operation. ( individual braking) It appears that will run
about $500 bucks or more. Somehow I hate to do that, but still might
depending on the feed back I can get from those using hydraulic braking.
BCC is fine - lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com I only want to do this once, and
I hate buyer remorse.
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| Subject: | Re: Hydraulic brakes? |
| From: | "west1m" <west1m(at)hotmail.com> |
I don't recall the cost, they came from Black Max.
Expensive but I wanted brakes flying off the blacktop all the time.
lcottrell wrote:
> Do you remember the cost for dual controls?Larry
>
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> On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 8:59 PM, west1m wrote:
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| Subject: | Re: Hydraulic brakes? |
| From: | "Thumper" <dlong1957(at)yahoo.com> |
Larry
Try these for dual hydraulic hand brake actuators. I did something similar on
my old Firestar with the levers just in front of the seat between my legs. I
used Mt Bike brakes but this would work. This is similar to what we had on a
drifter in my hangar at one time and it worked excellent. And lots less than
500. Maybe buy the throttle like the one picture as part of this subject. Shop
around for the best price on 5" or 7" levers. Hagar is the brand. Good Luck
and I'll get out that way sometime.
https://www.cps-parts.com/categories/aircraft_parts/ap/menus/lg/masterbrakecylinders_hegar.html
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Oakland TN
2000 Aeroprakt A20 Vista Cruiser
Previously Kolb Mark IIIC, 94 Firestar, 84 Ultrastar.
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| Subject: | Re: 582 Radiator Advice |
| From: | Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com> |
The twin radiator set up is designed for a tractor installation. They don't
work worth a damn on a pusher like the Kolb. On top of that they're meant
for a "C" gearbox mount AND Rotax wants over $800 for the complete kit.
There's a better way.
Somewhere in the archives is my report on a radiator that does work. It's
off a Honda Magna motorcycle, has the fittings in the right location and
can be had for anywhere from $25 to $200 so do your shopping on eBay.
How well does it work? I took off on a July afternoon when the thermometer
read 117 and climbed direct to 6,000 ft. Needle on the coolant temp meter
never came out of the green on a three and a half hour flight. I almost
boiled over but the engine never came close.
Rick Girard
PS You'll notice that there's two different systems pictured. Worked
perfectly both times.
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: 582 Radiator Advice |
Rick G/Kolbers:
Only problem I had with my twin radiator set up on my 582 powered MKIII
was the price. Worked fine for me the short 224 hours I flew that
engine.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: 582 Radiator Advice
The twin radiator set up is designed for a tractor installation. They
don't work worth a damn on a pusher like the Kolb. On top of that
they're meant for a "C" gearbox mount AND Rotax wants over $800 for the
complete kit. There's a better way.
Somewhere in the archives is my report on a radiator that does work.
It's off a Honda Magna motorcycle, has the fittings in the right
location and can be had for anywhere from $25 to $200 so do your
shopping on eBay.
How well does it work? I took off on a July afternoon when the
thermometer read 117 and climbed direct to 6,000 ft. Needle on the
coolant temp meter never came out of the green on a three and a half
hour flight. I almost boiled over but the engine never came close.
Rick Girard
PS You'll notice that there's two different systems pictured. Worked
perfectly both times.
On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 7:43 PM, tomb2b wrote:
I would go with the twin rotax rads less wait they cool it the right
way...
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| From: | Bill Berle <victorbravo(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Hydraulic brakes? |
If your feet could bounce off the pedals in a rough field, then make a little loop
out of nylon webbing (from a broken ratchet strap or something) and tie it
to the pedal. Put your foot into this loop and use it like a stirrup. Adjust
the size and location of the loop so that it only goes around your toes, so it
cannot trip you getting out of the cockpit. Tie it to the pedal system in a location
that allows you to move your foot to activate the brakes.
Problem solved, cost zero.
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On Mon, 2/29/16, west1m wrote:
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Hydraulic brakes?
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Monday, February 29, 2016, 6:49 AM
"west1m"
I don't recall the cost, they came from Black Max.
Expensive but I wanted brakes flying off the blacktop all
the time.
lcottrell wrote:
> Do you remember the cost for dual controls?Larry
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 8:59 PM, west1m wrote:
>
> >
> > I put the Black Max hydraulic brakes on my
firefly. I use a dual hand control by the throttle. Quite
handy, no regrets.
> >
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> > Hastings, MN
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| Subject: | Re: Hydraulic brakes? |
| From: | Gary Aman <zeprep251(at)aol.com> |
If it's that rough your tires aren't on the ground either.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Feb 29, 2016, at 12:45 PM, Bill Berle wrote:
>
>
> If your feet could bounce off the pedals in a rough field, then make a little
loop out of nylon webbing (from a broken ratchet strap or something) and tie
it to the pedal. Put your foot into this loop and use it like a stirrup. Adjust
the size and location of the loop so that it only goes around your toes, so
it cannot trip you getting out of the cockpit. Tie it to the pedal system in a
location that allows you to move your foot to activate the brakes.
>
> Problem solved, cost zero.
>
>
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> On Mon, 2/29/16, west1m wrote:
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> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Hydraulic brakes?
> To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> Date: Monday, February 29, 2016, 6:49 AM
>
> "west1m"
>
> I don't recall the cost, they came from Black Max.
> Expensive but I wanted brakes flying off the blacktop all
> the time.
>
>
>
> lcottrell wrote:
>> Do you remember the cost for dual controls?Larry
>>
>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 8:59 PM, west1m wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I put the Black Max hydraulic brakes on my
> firefly. I use a dual hand control by the throttle. Quite
> handy, no regrets.
>>>
>>> --------
>>> West1m
>>> Hastings, MN
>>>
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| From: | "George Bearden" <gab16(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Hydraulic brakes? |
> I used 2 brake handles on the control stick and I can activate either
side or both at the same time with just my fingers.
Thanks for your post and idea! I have been wondering if I should use
separate levers on my conversion. I have mtn bike disc brakes mounted, but
the caliper mounts are not done.
I was thinking about putting one brake lever on the left of the seat and
one on the stick. But as I read your post I visualized both on the stick,
maybe reversed so the handle ends are adjacent to each other. Dunno, maybe
it would work. How are yours mounted?
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| Subject: | Re: Hydraulic brakes? |
| From: | Rick Neilsen <neilsenrm(at)gmail.com> |
I can't imagine having to worry about my feet bouncing off the rudder
pedals or brakes. I like heal brake pedals because they don't stress the
rudder cables and you aren't near as likely to inadvertently apply the
brakes. Hand brakes????
I have Matco brakes I like the design but mine are a bit low on braking
power. Kolb's old demonstrator, Fat Albert had Matco brakes and it had four
times the braking power. I had to be very careful using them because I'm so
used to standing on mine.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Bill Berle
wrote:
>
> If your feet could bounce off the pedals in a rough field, then make a
> little loop out of nylon webbing (from a broken ratchet strap or something)
> and tie it to the pedal. Put your foot into this loop and use it like a
> stirrup. Adjust the size and location of the loop so that it only goes
> around your toes, so it cannot trip you getting out of the cockpit. Tie it
> to the pedal system in a location that allows you to move your foot to
> activate the brakes.
>
> Problem solved, cost zero.
>
>
> Bill Berle
> www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
> www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and
> for-profit entities
>
> --------------------------------------------
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Hydraulic brakes? |
| From: | B Young <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com> |
Rick
do you know why fat Albert's brakes were so much better? did it have the
2 puck calipers. or a better mechanical advantage?
Boyd
On Mar 1, 2016 1:24 PM, "Rick Neilsen" wrote:
> I can't imagine having to worry about my feet bouncing off the rudder
> pedals or brakes. I like heal brake pedals because they don't stress the
> rudder cables and you aren't near as likely to inadvertently apply the
> brakes. Hand brakes????
>
> I have Matco brakes I like the design but mine are a bit low on braking
> power. Kolb's old demonstrator, Fat Albert had Matco brakes and it had four
> times the braking power. I had to be very careful using them because I'm so
> used to standing on mine.
>
> Rick Neilsen
> Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
>
> On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Bill Berle
> wrote:
>
>>
>> If your feet could bounce off the pedals in a rough field, then make a
>> little loop out of nylon webbing (from a broken ratchet strap or something)
>> and tie it to the pedal. Put your foot into this loop and use it like a
>> stirrup. Adjust the size and location of the loop so that it only goes
>> around your toes, so it cannot trip you getting out of the cockpit. Tie it
>> to the pedal system in a location that allows you to move your foot to
>> activate the brakes.
>>
>> Problem solved, cost zero.
>>
>>
>> Bill Berle
>> www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
>> www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and
>> for-profit entities
>>
>> --------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Hydraulic brakes? |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
Using my mech brakes I came up with this and it worked very well. I found
it much easier to control my plane with these and using the rudders. They
at least were always positive, where as I find it difficult sometimes to
get my feet where I want them and use the rudders as well. Perhaps I am
just clumsy!
I had to do a bit of welding, but it worked just fine.
On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 4:33 AM, George Bearden wrote:
>
> > I used 2 brake handles on the control stick and I can activate either
> side or both at the same time with just my fingers.
>
> Thanks for your post and idea! I have been wondering if I should use
> separate levers on my conversion. I have mtn bike disc brakes mounted, but
> the caliper mounts are not done.
>
> I was thinking about putting one brake lever on the left of the seat and
> one on the stick. But as I read your post I visualized both on the stick,
> maybe reversed so the handle ends are adjacent to each other. Dunno, maybe
> it would work. How are yours mounted?
>
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| Subject: | Re: Hydraulic brakes? |
| From: | "Richard Pike" <thegreybaron(at)charter.net> |
Looks like their are all sorts of ways to skin this cat. Here is how we did it
in the FSII: instead of pulling back you push down. (Did it this way because it
was easier to weld in the brackets and make everything fit. Bleeding the air
out is a pain tho...)
http://oh2fly.net/oldpoops/Panel.htm
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Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
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| From: | Patrick Ladd <patrickjladd(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Hydraulic brakes? |
=9Cfeet bouncing off the rudder pedals or brakes. I like heal
brake pedals..=9D
I remember the CFI at my Gliding Club pulling the horn off the rudder of
a glider which had heel operated rudder pedals through a rough landing
run. The forces involved in a rough run are considerable. I flew with a
plaster cast on and punched a hole in the cockpit floor through banging
up and down on a rough take off run.
Pat
From: Rick Neilsen
Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Hydraulic brakes?
I can't imagine having to worry about my feet bouncing off the rudder
pedals or brakes. I like heal brake pedals because they don't stress the
rudder cables and you aren't near as likely to inadvertently apply the
brakes. Hand brakes????
I have Matco brakes I like the design but mine are a bit low on braking
power. Kolb's old demonstrator, Fat Albert had Matco brakes and it had
four times the braking power. I had to be very careful using them
because I'm so used to standing on mine.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Bill Berle
wrote:
If your feet could bounce off the pedals in a rough field, then make a
little loop out of nylon webbing (from a broken ratchet strap or
something) and tie it to the pedal. Put your foot into this loop and use
it like a stirrup. Adjust the size and location of the loop so that it
only goes around your toes, so it cannot trip you getting out of the
cockpit. Tie it to the pedal system in a location that allows you to
move your foot to activate the brakes.
Problem solved, cost zero.
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light
aircraft
www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and
for-profit entities
--------------------------------------------
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| Subject: | Re: Hydraulic brakes? |
| From: | Rick Neilsen <neilsenrm(at)gmail.com> |
Pat
We are talking about Kolb airplanes. Also not recommended that one is on
the brake peddles until after landing.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Patrick Ladd
wrote:
> =9Cfeet bouncing off the rudder pedals or brakes. I like heal brake
pedals..=9D
>
> I remember the CFI at my Gliding Club pulling the horn off the rudder of
a
> glider which had heel operated rudder pedals through a rough landing run.
> The forces involved in a rough run are considerable. I flew with a plaste
r
> cast on and punched a hole in the cockpit floor through banging up and do
wn
> on a rough take off run.
>
> Pat
>
> *From:* Rick Neilsen
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 1, 2016 5:10 PM
> *To:* kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: Kolb-List: Re: Hydraulic brakes?
>
> I can't imagine having to worry about my feet bouncing off the rudder
> pedals or brakes. I like heal brake pedals because they don't stress the
> rudder cables and you aren't near as likely to inadvertently apply the
> brakes. Hand brakes????
>
> I have Matco brakes I like the design but mine are a bit low on braking
> power. Kolb's old demonstrator, Fat Albert had Matco brakes and it had fo
ur
> times the braking power. I had to be very careful using them because I'm
so
> used to standing on mine.
>
> Rick Neilsen
> Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
>
> On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Bill Berle
> wrote:
>
>>
>> If your feet could bounce off the pedals in a rough field, then make a
>> little loop out of nylon webbing (from a broken ratchet strap or somethi
ng)
>> and tie it to the pedal. Put your foot into this loop and use it like a
>> stirrup. Adjust the size and location of the loop so that it only goes
>> around your toes, so it cannot trip you getting out of the cockpit. Tie
it
>> to the pedal system in a location that allows you to move your foot to
>> activate the brakes.
>>
>> Problem solved, cost zero.
>>
>>
>> Bill Berle
>> www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
>> www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and
>> for-profit entities
>>
>> --------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Hydraulic brakes? |
| From: | Rick Neilsen <neilsenrm(at)gmail.com> |
Boyd
I have asked myself that question many times. No I don't think it had the
it had the 2 puck calipers or more mechanical advantage. I think the brake
disk is a different material, mine don't rust (likely stainless) or the
brake pads are less abrasive.???????
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 3:49 PM, B Young wrote:
> Rick
> do you know why fat Albert's brakes were so much better? did it have
> the 2 puck calipers. or a better mechanical advantage?
> Boyd
> On Mar 1, 2016 1:24 PM, "Rick Neilsen" wrote:
>
>> I can't imagine having to worry about my feet bouncing off the rudder
>> pedals or brakes. I like heal brake pedals because they don't stress the
>> rudder cables and you aren't near as likely to inadvertently apply the
>> brakes. Hand brakes????
>>
>> I have Matco brakes I like the design but mine are a bit low on braking
>> power. Kolb's old demonstrator, Fat Albert had Matco brakes and it had four
>> times the braking power. I had to be very careful using them because I'm so
>> used to standing on mine.
>>
>> Rick Neilsen
>> Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Bill Berle
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> If your feet could bounce off the pedals in a rough field, then make a
>>> little loop out of nylon webbing (from a broken ratchet strap or something)
>>> and tie it to the pedal. Put your foot into this loop and use it like a
>>> stirrup. Adjust the size and location of the loop so that it only goes
>>> around your toes, so it cannot trip you getting out of the cockpit. Tie it
>>> to the pedal system in a location that allows you to move your foot to
>>> activate the brakes.
>>>
>>> Problem solved, cost zero.
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill Berle
>>> www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
>>> www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and
>>> for-profit entities
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>
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| Subject: | Rotax 503 - 300 Hour Rebuild - Advice |
| From: | "miyer2u" <miyer2u(at)yahoo.com> |
Hello Kolbers,
I have 280 HRS on my 503. I decarbed it, checked the crank, Cleant the piston grooves,
rings, dome, put new gaskets and assembled it back. Test ran and alls
well.
I DID NOT change the needle bearings and wanted to know if thats an issue.
I have heard the needle bearings can break in the 300 hour range? is that true?
Should I go ahead and replace them? Any experience that you could share?
Thanks much!
Mahesh
FS-2
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| Subject: | Re: 582 Radiator Advice |
| From: | "tomb2b" <ferreeb2b(at)gmail.com> |
I have ran the twin for 20 years that system is designed for the water cooled engines
some after market designed you can get a shock cool down you do not get
the hours out of it I just bought a good used complete set on barnstormers
400 bucks for my kolb m3 fixer upper it had that big heavy rad mounted on it first
thing I removed... just advice
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: 582 Radiator Advice |
I believe cold seizures are the result of improper thermostat set up, not
radiators. The thermostat must have a bleed hole of a specific diameter
that I cannot remember at this time. Smaller or no bleed hole at all with
cause cold seizures when the thermostat opens and dumps cold water from the
radiator into the cylinder and head. I learned this the hard way in 1993,
on my first MKIII engine, a 582 with 224.0 hours on it. My engine came
without a thermostat and I thought it would operate better with one. Bought
the thermostat from Rotax, but it did not have a bleed hole, or it had a
very tiny one. Been too long ago. Cannot remember.
john h
mkIII
912ULS with not thermostat
Titus, Alabama
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Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2016 4:06 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: 582 Radiator Advice
I have ran the twin for 20 years that system is designed for the water
cooled engines some after market designed you can get a shock cool down you
do not get the hours out of it I just bought a good used complete set on
barnstormers 400 bucks for my kolb m3 fixer upper it had that big heavy
rad mounted on it first thing I removed... just advice
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| Subject: | Re: Hydraulic brakes? |
| From: | "Thumper" <dlong1957(at)yahoo.com> |
Here is my MT bike brake handles for my Firestar I that I installed before selling.
Pull one or the other, or the cable loop for both. worked good for me.
--------
Dennis Long
Oakland TN
2000 Aeroprakt A20 Vista Cruiser, 2016 A22LS Aeroprakt
Previously Kolb Mark IIIC, 94 Firestar, 84 Ultrastar.
1200+hours since 1/1/2009
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| Subject: | Re: Hydraulic brakes? |
| From: | "Richard Pike" <thegreybaron(at)charter.net> |
Wow...the term "photo bombed" just took on a new meaning for this thread...
https://imageresizer.codeplex.com/
--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Would you consider yourself to be a good person?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcDXT6pH7A
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| Subject: | Re: Hydraulic brakes? |
| From: | Charlie England <ceengland7(at)gmail.com> |
On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 7:13 AM, Richard Pike
wrote:
>
> Wow...the term "photo bombed" just took on a new meaning for this thread...
> https://imageresizer.codeplex.com/
>
> --------
> Richard Pike
> Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> Kingsport, TN 3TN0
>
> Thanks for the link. Previous versions I tried for win7 didn't seem to
> work; this one does. AVG scan says 'no threats found'.
Charlie
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| Subject: | Re: Hydraulic brakes? |
| From: | "Richard Pike" <thegreybaron(at)charter.net> |
williamtsullivan(at)att.n wrote:
> Richard- Can that photo tool be used with Windows 10? Is it from a trusted source?
Free?
>
I've been using it with no problems, it's free, it works, it uses a Microsoft Public
License, I have had no issues with it. If you browse the website it looks
pretty legit. That's all I know.
https://imageresizer.codeplex.com/
--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Would you consider yourself to be a good person?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcDXT6pH7A
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| Subject: | Re: Hydraulic brakes? |
| From: | "Rex Rodebush" <jrrodebush(at)gmail.com> |
If your picture is on Picasa and you export it will give you the option to resize
it. Then go the export file where you sent it and attach it to your post.
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| Subject: | Extending instrument panel |
| From: | "Mcabbage" <Mc(at)americanbuilding.com> |
I would like to extend my fs2 Inst. panel I have seen a few have done it and was
hoping to get a little guidance and or pictures of the process. I was thinking
to hinge it for better access.
How far to extend
What materials how to fabricate it
How to hinge and how to secure to existing panel?
I found these pics on barnstormers and really like the layout.
Thanks for any help
Mike
--------
2007 Firestar 2 503 N203SD
Moster 185 flattop PPG/Sky K2 Paraglider
Trike Buggy Soaring Trike & Northwing Stratus XP
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Extending instrument panel |
Do a Google search of the N number. It will produce the first, second, and
third owners of this FS.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mcabbage
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 4:11 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Extending instrument panel
I would like to extend my fs2 Inst. panel I have seen a few have done it and
was hoping to get a little guidance and or pictures of the process. I was
thinking to hinge it for better access.
How far to extend
What materials how to fabricate it
How to hinge and how to secure to existing panel?
I found these pics on barnstormers and really like the layout.
Thanks for any help
Mike
--------
2007 Firestar 2 503 N203SD
Moster 185 flattop PPG/Sky K2 Paraglider Trike Buggy Soaring Trike &
Northwing Stratus XP
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 503 - 300 Hour Rebuild - Advice |
| From: | "Richard Pike" <thegreybaron(at)charter.net> |
I think no one wants to reply because no one wants to give you bad advice. I currently
have 270 hours on my 582, and plan to run it to 450 hours. Given my age,
and the number of hours I fly each year, that will probably be sufficient for
my aviating future.
BUT
I consistently try and run it at 5,400 rpm, which keeps the centrifugal load on
the crank bearings down, and should extend the crank life.
Should. Hmm..
I guess in a another few years I'll find out if that was a good idea.
--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Would you consider yourself to be a good person?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcDXT6pH7A
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| From: | Jim Baker <jimbaker(at)npacc.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Rotax 503 - 300 Hour Rebuild - Advice |
Richard brings up a point that drove me to acquiring a Hirth, specifically the
old 2704. Max rpm for that model is 5400. I normally fly at 3500 to 3900 rpm,
depending on the day and the resultant EGT. Combine that with 624 CC and you get
a powerplant that creates its max torque well down the Rev range and is creating
much less heat in the cylinder per unit time than the higher revving two
stroke.
I, however, run two strokes much differently than others would. The most common
ailment heard is burned oil creating coke on the piston crown, ring lands (especially
Dykes type, which is the type Rotax uses) and exhaust ports. The oil
in the ring lands is cooked and leaves behind the carbon residue from that cooking.
Same for crowns and ports.
EGT is, I believe, my key. I don't run an RPM or an airspeed, simply an EGT that
is sufficiently high to more completely burn the fuel mixed with the oil. Generally
that's in the 1150 to 1200 range. I'll often read an article up to the
point that the "expert" says no one should run below 32 or 20:1 ratios. There
goes the credibility.
On top of that, more oil is not better. Too much oil will cause roller bearing
balls to hydrodynamically skid instead of roll. The amount of lubrication a quality
ball bearing or needle bearing needs is vanishingly small. Consider a wheel
bearing....packed with grease, initially, after awhile the grease retreats
from contact with the balls and ony sporadically comes in contact, usually from
some high G load such as a pothole. Re-pack a really old bearing and watch
what comes out...congealed chunks of lubicant. The wrist pin needle bearings are
the more susceptible to heat damage from lack of lubrication.
So. I run 100:1 oil mix. Doesn't matter which one, I'm not pushing a brand. The
less oil there is, the less there is to leave carbon behind. It's a fine balancing
act to not use too little that the bearings complain. I think I get away
with it because my larger piston surface area more readily sheds heat via cylinder
wall contact, less heat per unit time, and the cooling of the underside
of the piston by the incoming charge, the oil doesn't have a chance to coke and
leave deposits behind. That, and the fact that I don't have a Dykes top ring.
Dykes are great at more complete cylinder sealing because of the larger ring/cylinder
wall contact area but it also makes them hotter because of that contact.
After 600 hours, no decarbon needed. Plugs have been replaced once, more from curiosity
than anything else. They looked just like four stroke plugs, just a light
tan and no coking up into the insulator well.
Maybe I'm spouting crap. My Gordon Jennings handbook, the SAE papers I've read
have confirmed, at least in my mind, what I've just posted....but as I said, may
be crap. Or not.
Jim Baker
405 426 5377
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Pike <thegreybaron(at)charter.net>
Sent: Sat, 05 Mar 2016 22:48
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Rotax 503 - 300 Hour Rebuild - Advice
I think no one wants to reply because no one wants to give you bad advice. I currently
have 270 hours on my 582, and plan to run it to 450 hours. Given my age,
and the number of hours I fly each year, that will probably be sufficient for
my aviating future.
BUT
I consistently try and run it at 5,400 rpm, which keeps the centrifugal load on
the crank bearings down, and should extend the crank life.
Should. Hmm..
I guess in a another few years I'll find out if that was a good idea.
--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Would you consider yourself to be a good person?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcDXT6pH7A
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| Subject: | Re: Extending instrument panel |
| From: | "Mcabbage" <Mc(at)americanbuilding.com> |
Thank you John. I did contact seller from the ad but I think he was busy . Maybe
new owner could help some.
Another question, when replacing ruder and elevater cables wher is the best source
for materials?
Thanks
--------
2007 Firestar 2 503 N203SD
Moster 185 flattop PPG/Sky K2 Paraglider
Trike Buggy Soaring Trike & Northwing Stratus XP
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| From: | Bob Underwood <bob.pipercolt(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Rotax 503 - 300 Hour Rebuild - Advice |
Hi JimThanks for the info. I purchased a recently rebuilt 582 and the previ
ous owner said that the man who rebuilt the engine the first time told him
to fun it 100 to 1 and not decarbon it. It was overhauled with about 800 ho
urs on it and was in great condition with minimal parts replaced. Interesti
ng isn't it.
Bob
On Sunday, March 6, 2016 9:12 AM, Jim Baker wrote:
Richard brings up a point that drove me to acquiring a Hirth, specifically
the old 2704. Max rpm for that model is 5400. I normally fly at 3500 to 390
0 rpm, depending on the day and the resultant EGT. Combine that with 624 CC
and you get a powerplant that creates its max torque well down the Rev ran
ge and is creating much less heat in the cylinder per unit time than the hi
gher revving two stroke.
I, however,=C2- run two strokes much differently than others would. The m
ost common ailment heard is burned oil creating coke on the piston crown, r
ing lands (especially Dykes type, which is the type Rotax uses) and exhaust
ports. The oil in the ring lands is cooked and leaves behind=C2- the car
bon residue from that cooking. Same for crowns and ports.
EGT is, I believe, my key. I don't run an RPM or an airspeed, simply an EGT
that is sufficiently high to more completely burn the fuel mixed with the
oil. Generally that's in the 1150 to 1200 range. I'll often read an article
up to the point that the "expert" says no one should run below 32 or 20:1
ratios. There goes the credibility.
On top of that, more oil is not better. Too much oil will cause roller bear
ing balls to hydrodynamically skid instead of roll. The amount of lubricati
on a quality ball bearing or needle bearing needs is vanishingly small. Con
sider a wheel bearing....packed with grease, initially, after awhile the gr
ease retreats from contact with the balls and ony sporadically comes in con
tact, usually from some high G load such as a pothole. Re-pack a really old
bearing and watch what comes out...congealed chunks of lubicant. The wrist
pin needle bearings are the more susceptible to heat damage from lack of l
ubrication.
So. I run 100:1 oil mix. Doesn't matter which one, I'm not pushing a brand.
The less oil there is, the less there is to leave carbon behind. It's a fi
ne balancing act to not use too little that the bearings complain. I think
I get away with it because my larger piston surface area more readily sheds
heat via cylinder wall contact, less heat per unit time, and the cooling o
f the underside of the piston by the incoming charge, the oil doesn't have
a chance to coke and leave deposits behind. That, and the fact that I don't
have a Dykes top ring. Dykes are great at more complete cylinder sealing b
ecause of the larger ring/cylinder wall contact area but it also makes them
hotter because of that contact.
After 600 hours, no decarbon needed. Plugs have been replaced once, more fr
om curiosity than anything else. They looked just like four stroke plugs, j
ust a light tan and no coking up into the insulator well.
Maybe I'm spouting crap. My Gordon Jennings handbook, the SAE papers I've r
ead have confirmed, at least in my mind, what I've just posted....but as I
said, may be crap. Or not.
Jim Baker
405 426 5377
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Pike <thegreybaron(at)charter.net>
Sent: Sat, 05 Mar 2016 22:48
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Rotax 503 - 300 Hour Rebuild - Advice
I think no one wants to reply because no one wants to give you bad advice.
I currently have 270 hours on my 582, and plan to run it to 450 hours. Give
n my age, and the number of hours I fly each year, that will probably be su
fficient for my aviating future.
BUT
I consistently try and run it at 5,400 rpm, which keeps the centrifugal loa
d on the crank bearings down, and should extend the crank life.
Should. Hmm..
I guess in a another few years I'll find out if that was a good idea.
--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Would you consider yourself to be a good person?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcDXT6pH7A
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=C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin.
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Extending instrument panel |
I recommend Kolb Aircraft Company.
Phone (606) 862-9692
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mcabbage
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2016 8:23 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Extending instrument panel
Thank you John. I did contact seller from the ad but I think he was busy .
Maybe new owner could help some.
Another question, when replacing ruder and elevater cables wher is the best
source for materials?
Thanks
--------
2007 Firestar 2 503 N203SD
Moster 185 flattop PPG/Sky K2 Paraglider Trike Buggy Soaring Trike &
Northwing Stratus XP
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| Subject: | Re: Extending instrument panel |
| From: | Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com> |
For control cable, first get the proper mil spec cable, second read the
section on cable in AC 43-13 1B. I know there will be a lot of carping
about recommending covered cable but you owe it to yourself to read what
FAA certified mechanics read when they don't have a manufacturer's spec to
go by. Covered cable, one properly swaged Nico sleeve is the recommendation
.
Extending your panel, consider doing it with vibration dampers. You can get
them from McMaster Carr as well as the specs for allowable shear loads so
you can design a panel that will last.
Rick Girard
On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 8:22 AM, Mcabbage wrote:
>
> Thank you John. I did contact seller from the ad but I think he was busy
.
> Maybe new owner could help some.
>
> Another question, when replacing ruder and elevater cables wher is the
> best source for materials?
>
> Thanks
>
> --------
> 2007 Firestar 2 503 N203SD
> Moster 185 flattop PPG/Sky K2 Paraglider
> Trike Buggy Soaring Trike & Northwing Stratus XP
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=453460#453460
>
>
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>
>
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=9CBlessed are the cracked, for they shall let in the light.=9D
Groucho Marx
<http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/43244.Groucho_Marx>
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| Subject: | Re: Extending instrument panel |
| From: | "George Alexander" <gtalexander(at)att.net> |
Mcabbage wrote:
> I would like to extend my fs2 Inst. panel
>
> .S N I P .
>
> Mike
Being one who must remain conscious of leg room, I would be careful how deep you
make your extension and/or the top to bottom measurement. Too much in either
of these dimensions will cut down that leg room. Looking at the inside shot
of the pictures you posted, there's not much room between the pilot's shins and
the bottom edge of the extension.
As Beauford would say.... "Worth what you paid fer it.."
--------
George Alexander
FS II R503 N709FS
http://www.oh2fly.net
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| Subject: | Re: Extending instrument panel |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
Looking at the inside shot of the pictures you posted, there's not much
room between the pilot's shins and the bottom edge of the extension.
I am not sure how big you are, but let me tell you how I get into my plane.
I am 6 feet- 235 lbs. I sit backwards on my seat, lift my left leg over the
stick, and down onto the rudder pedals. I of course reverse this process to
get out of the plane. My plane has longer gear legs, so I had to change the
method of entering the cockpit. With the smaller gear legs, One can lift up
the wind screen- stick the left leg in, then put your butt on the seat.
Much like what you do to get into a sports car. These are only ways to get
in that I have found. Smaller younger pilots will be able to do things that
I probably cannot.
The only thing on my cockpit that I need to do anything with is adjust the
altimeter. I do that on the ground. The rest of the controls that I need-
tank selection- fuel pump, strobe, ignition switch are all located in
various spots that are within reach.
Primarily what I am saying is that you can position every thing that you
need in spots that allow you to reach them while seated and flying. It just
takes some thinking on your part. However you are the one that will be
flying it, your choice, but give it some serious thought. I have a small
center console in front of the stick that holds my radio, all my switches-
plug ins for the intercom. HAC man system on the left side by the throttle,
fuel selector switches on the gusset to the left of my seat. Take a poll
and see how many have moved their console out.
Larry
Larry
On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 9:06 PM, George Alexander
wrote:
>
>
> Mcabbage wrote:
> > I would like to extend my fs2 Inst. panel
> >
> > .S N I P .
> >
> > Mike
>
>
> Being one who must remain conscious of leg room, I would be careful how
> deep you make your extension and/or the top to bottom measurement. Too
> much in either of these dimensions will cut down that leg room. Looking at
> the inside shot of the pictures you posted, there's not much room between
> the pilot's shins and the bottom edge of the extension.
>
> As Beauford would say.... "Worth what you paid fer it.."
>
> --------
> George Alexander
> FS II R503 N709FS
> http://www.oh2fly.net
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=453484#453484
>
>
--
*The older I get, the less tolerant I am of those who are intolerant.*
*If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email
address before sending.*
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Patrick Ladd <patrickjladd(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Extending instrument panel |
<>
Thats interesting Larry. Do you not set your altimeter to read zero when
you land at an away field? Normally we set QFE Baro pressure at your
home field if just messing about locally. When approaching another field
the local pressure will be passed to you along with wind speed and
direction, circuit direction, circuit height etc. So if you are
supposed to join the circuit at 1000 ft then that is the height which
your altimeter shows.
Pat
From: Larry Cottrell
Sent: Monday, March 7, 2016 5:55 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Extending instrument panel
Looking at the inside shot of the pictures you posted, there's not much
room between the pilot's shins and the bottom edge of the extension.
I am not sure how big you are, but let me tell you how I get into my
plane. I am 6 feet- 235 lbs. I sit backwards on my seat, lift my left
leg over the stick, and down onto the rudder pedals. I of course reverse
this process to get out of the plane. My plane has longer gear legs, so
I had to change the method of entering the cockpit. With the smaller
gear legs, One can lift up the wind screen- stick the left leg in, then
put your butt on the seat. Much like what you do to get into a sports
car. These are only ways to get in that I have found. Smaller younger
pilots will be able to do things that I probably cannot.
The only thing on my cockpit that I need to do anything with is adjust
the altimeter. I do that on the ground. The rest of the controls that I
need- tank selection- fuel pump, strobe, ignition switch are all located
in various spots that are within reach.
Primarily what I am saying is that you can position every thing that you
need in spots that allow you to reach them while seated and flying. It
just takes some thinking on your part. However you are the one that will
be flying it, your choice, but give it some serious thought. I have a
small center console in front of the stick that holds my radio, all my
switches- plug ins for the intercom. HAC man system on the left side by
the throttle, fuel selector switches on the gusset to the left of my
seat. Take a poll and see how many have moved their console out.
Larry
Larry
On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 9:06 PM, George Alexander
wrote:
Mcabbage wrote:
> I would like to extend my fs2 Inst. panel
>
> .S N I P .
>
> Mike
Being one who must remain conscious of leg room, I would be careful
how deep you make your extension and/or the top to bottom measurement.
Too much in either of these dimensions will cut down that leg room.
Looking at the inside shot of the pictures you posted, there's not much
room between the pilot's shins and the bottom edge of the extension.
As Beauford would say.... "Worth what you paid fer it.."
--------
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| Subject: | Re: Extending instrument panel |
| From: | "Mcabbage" <Mc(at)americanbuilding.com> |
Thanks guys yes proper planning! I am 6 feet 190 lbs size 12 sneakers! So I agree
not much room down there for sure!
Mike
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| From: | "Mcabbage" <Mc(at)americanbuilding.com> |
Thanks guys yes proper planning! I am 6 feet 190 lbs size 12 sneakers! So I agree
not much room down there for sure!
Mike
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| Subject: | Re: Extending instrument panel |
| From: | "olendorf" <olendorf(at)gmail.com> |
This is how I did it. The panel is attached to a rubber hose at the bottom. The
top rests against the nose cone. This allows the nose cone off by itself. Not
attached to the panel at all. Yes you lose a little shin room. Just be sure
to account for that. I rounded off the panel at the bottom so I didn't cut my
legs off in a crash.
Two things I would do differently next time around. The compass needs to be vertical.
The panel should be painted black.
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| Subject: | Re: Extending instrument panel |
| From: | "Richard Pike" <thegreybaron(at)charter.net> |
lcottrell wrote:
> Looking at the inside shot of the pictures you posted, there's not much room
between the pilot's shins and the bottom edge of the extension.
>
> The only thing on my cockpit that I need to do anything with is adjust the altimeter.
I do that on the ground. The rest of the controls that I need- tank selection-
fuel pump, strobe, ignition switch are all located in various spots
that are within reach.
>
> Primarily what I am saying is that you can position every thing that you need
in spots that allow you to reach them while seated and flying. It just takes
some thinking on your part. However you are the one that will be flying it, your
choice, but give it some serious thought. I have a small center console in
front of the stick that holds my radio, all my switches- plug ins for the intercom.
HAC man system on the left side by the throttle, fuel selector switches
on the gusset to the left of my seat. Take a poll and see how many have moved
their console out.
> Larry
>
>
I agree with what Larry says here. (Even if Scott Olendorf's panel setup is extremely
cool)
It is really easy to make the panel on the FSII slide out a bit; notice that the
wood has holes drilled in it and the windscreen tubes fit through it. You remove
one screw on either side and the panel will slide up the tubes about 8 inches,
plenty of room to get access to the back side.
Radio Shack is out of business, but the little black box with all the switches
on it has lots of room for all your wiring needs. Probably other electronics shops
sell similar boxes.
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| Subject: | Re: Extending instrument panel |
| From: | "Richard Pike" <thegreybaron(at)charter.net> |
One more thought: if you do extend the panel back toward your shins, make sure
it is not rigidly attached to anything.
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Thank you Richard and Jim for your inputs! Appreciate it.
Mahesh
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| From: | Rick Neilsen <neilsenrm(at)gmail.com> |
Pat
Many of us live in remote locations that never talk to control towers. I
think it has been ten years since talking to any tower. Even flying into
the the LSA strip at Oshkosh and Sun N Fun, just flew in. I set my
altimeter at the base elevation of the airport I take off from while on the
ground.
I have a stick that I use to adjust my altimeter and switches on the panel
while belted in. I have a holder that keeps the stick safely stored when
not in use. George A got a chuckle and took pictures of it a few years back.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 6:44 AM, Patrick Ladd
wrote:
> < the altimeter. I do that on the ground>>
> Thats interesting Larry. Do you not set your altimeter to read zero when
> you land at an away field? Normally we set QFE Baro pressure at your home
> field if just messing about locally. When approaching another field the
> local pressure will be passed to you along with wind speed and direction,
> circuit direction, circuit height etc. So if you are supposed to join the
> circuit at 1000 ft then that is the height which your altimeter shows.
> Pat
>
> *From:* Larry Cottrell
> *Sent:* Monday, March 7, 2016 5:55 AM
> *To:* kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: Kolb-List: Re: Extending instrument panel
>
> Looking at the inside shot of the pictures you posted, there's not much
> room between the pilot's shins and the bottom edge of the extension.
>
>
> I am not sure how big you are, but let me tell you how I get into my
> plane. I am 6 feet- 235 lbs. I sit backwards on my seat, lift my left leg
> over the stick, and down onto the rudder pedals. I of course reverse this
> process to get out of the plane. My plane has longer gear legs, so I had to
> change the method of entering the cockpit. With the smaller gear legs, One
> can lift up the wind screen- stick the left leg in, then put your butt on
> the seat. Much like what you do to get into a sports car. These are only
> ways to get in that I have found. Smaller younger pilots will be able to do
> things that I probably cannot.
>
> The only thing on my cockpit that I need to do anything with is adjust the
> altimeter. I do that on the ground. The rest of the controls that I need-
> tank selection- fuel pump, strobe, ignition switch are all located in
> various spots that are within reach.
>
> Primarily what I am saying is that you can position every thing that you
> need in spots that allow you to reach them while seated and flying. It just
> takes some thinking on your part. However you are the one that will be
> flying it, your choice, but give it some serious thought. I have a small
> center console in front of the stick that holds my radio, all my switches-
> plug ins for the intercom. HAC man system on the left side by the throttle,
> fuel selector switches on the gusset to the left of my seat. Take a poll
> and see how many have moved their console out.
>
> Larry
> Larry
>
> On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 9:06 PM, George Alexander
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Mcabbage wrote:
>> > I would like to extend my fs2 Inst. panel
>> >
>> > .S N I P .
>> >
>> > Mike
>>
>>
>> Being one who must remain conscious of leg room, I would be careful how
>> deep you make your extension and/or the top to bottom measurement. Too
>> much in either of these dimensions will cut down that leg room. Looking at
>> the inside shot of the pictures you posted, there's not much room between
>> the pilot's shins and the bottom edge of the extension.
>>
>> As Beauford would say.... "Worth what you paid fer it.."
>>
>> --------
>> George Alexander
>> FS II R503 N709FS
>> http://www.oh2fly.net
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=453484#453484
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Extending instrument panel |
| From: | "Mcabbage" <Mc(at)americanbuilding.com> |
Thank you Olendorf, George, Larry, John and Rick
Richard- Ouch! that looks like it hurt! a lot.... it hurts just to see.
Larry, how did you extend the gear legs?
Many thanks
Mike
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| Subject: | Re: Extending instrument panel |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
"Larry, how did you extend the gear legs?"
I got a pair of 4130 gear legs built by a friend that were 36 inches long.
That gives me 24 inches sticking out rather than the stock alum legs. I
also run 800X6 tires.
Larry
On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 5:02 PM, Mcabbage wrote:
>
> Thank you Olendorf, George, Larry, John and Rick
>
> Richard- Ouch! that looks like it hurt! a lot.... it hurts just to see.
>
> Larry, how did you extend the gear legs?
>
> Many thanks
> Mike
>
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> Moster 185 flattop PPG/Sky K2 Paraglider
> Trike Buggy Soaring Trike & Northwing Stratus XP
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Extending instrument panel |
| From: | "Mcabbage" <Mc(at)americanbuilding.com> |
Nice!
--------
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Trike Buggy Soaring Trike & Northwing Stratus XP
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| From: | Bill Berle <victorbravo(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Extending instrument panel |
The extra long 36 inch gear.... do you notice a shorter takeoff roll because of
the higher ground angle of the wing??? Enquiring minds want to know ! I want
to build up my Firestar 2 as a STOL airplane :)
Bill Berle
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On Mon, 3/7/16, Mcabbage wrote:
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Extending instrument panel
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Monday, March 7, 2016, 4:23 PM
"Mcabbage"
Nice!
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| Subject: | Re: Extending instrument panel |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
The extra long 36 inch gear.... do you notice a shorter takeoff roll
because of the higher ground angle of the wing??? Enquiring minds want to
know ! I want to build up my Firestar 2 as a STOL airplane :)
I am afraid that I cannot say for sure. You would have to ask others for
that answer. I only know that it looks better, feels better, and I like it.
:-)
Larry
On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 5:31 PM, Bill Berle
wrote:
>
> The extra long 36 inch gear.... do you notice a shorter takeoff roll
> because of the higher ground angle of the wing??? Enquiring minds want to
> know ! I want to build up my Firestar 2 as a STOL airplane :)
>
> Bill Berle
> www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
> www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and
> for-profit entities
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Mon, 3/7/16, Mcabbage wrote:
>
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Extending instrument panel
> To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> Date: Monday, March 7, 2016, 4:23 PM
>
> "Mcabbage"
>
> Nice!
>
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> Moster 185 flattop PPG/Sky K2 Paraglider
> Trike Buggy Soaring Trike & Northwing Stratus XP
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| From: | Patrick Ladd <patrickjladd(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Extending instrument panel |
I have a stick that I use to adjust my altimeter >>
That beats the band. Well worth a chuckle.
I must admit that having learned to fly in gliders where you are more
than likely to land out in a field with no known height I never bothered
too much. More `that elm tree is about 50 feet high, turn final a bit
above it`. We also have a `transition height` when going higher for
serious xcountry flights. This ensures that everyone is on the same
baro. pressure to enable them to maintain the quadrantal rule
accurately. Never used it myself.
Pat
From: Rick Neilsen
Sent: Monday, March 7, 2016 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Extending instrument panel
Pat
Many of us live in remote locations that never talk to control towers. I
think it has been ten years since talking to any tower. Even flying into
the the LSA strip at Oshkosh and Sun N Fun, just flew in. I set my
altimeter at the base elevation of the airport I take off from while on
the ground.
I have a stick that I use to adjust my altimeter and switches on the
panel while belted in. I have a holder that keeps the stick safely
stored when not in use. George A got a chuckle and took pictures of it a
few years back.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 6:44 AM, Patrick Ladd
wrote:
<>
Thats interesting Larry. Do you not set your altimeter to read zero
when you land at an away field? Normally we set QFE Baro pressure at
your home field if just messing about locally. When approaching another
field the local pressure will be passed to you along with wind speed and
direction, circuit direction, circuit height etc. So if you are
supposed to join the circuit at 1000 ft then that is the height which
your altimeter shows.
Pat
From: Larry Cottrell
Sent: Monday, March 7, 2016 5:55 AM
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Extending instrument panel
Looking at the inside shot of the pictures you posted, there's not
much room between the pilot's shins and the bottom edge of the
extension.
I am not sure how big you are, but let me tell you how I get into my
plane. I am 6 feet- 235 lbs. I sit backwards on my seat, lift my left
leg over the stick, and down onto the rudder pedals. I of course reverse
this process to get out of the plane. My plane has longer gear legs, so
I had to change the method of entering the cockpit. With the smaller
gear legs, One can lift up the wind screen- stick the left leg in, then
put your butt on the seat. Much like what you do to get into a sports
car. These are only ways to get in that I have found. Smaller younger
pilots will be able to do things that I probably cannot.
The only thing on my cockpit that I need to do anything with is adjust
the altimeter. I do that on the ground. The rest of the controls that I
need- tank selection- fuel pump, strobe, ignition switch are all located
in various spots that are within reach.
Primarily what I am saying is that you can position every thing that
you need in spots that allow you to reach them while seated and flying.
It just takes some thinking on your part. However you are the one that
will be flying it, your choice, but give it some serious thought. I have
a small center console in front of the stick that holds my radio, all my
switches- plug ins for the intercom. HAC man system on the left side by
the throttle, fuel selector switches on the gusset to the left of my
seat. Take a poll and see how many have moved their console out.
Larry
Larry
On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 9:06 PM, George Alexander
wrote:
Mcabbage wrote:
> I would like to extend my fs2 Inst. panel
>
> .S N I P .
>
> Mike
Being one who must remain conscious of leg room, I would be careful
how deep you make your extension and/or the top to bottom measurement.
Too much in either of these dimensions will cut down that leg room.
Looking at the inside shot of the pictures you posted, there's not much
room between the pilot's shins and the bottom edge of the extension.
As Beauford would say.... "Worth what you paid fer it.."
--------
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FS II R503 N709FS
http://www.oh2fly.net
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| From: | K I <wrk2win4u(at)msn.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Extending instrument panel |
I am in the process of rebuilding a dash for my Mark III that extends 12 in
ches back to the pilot. I am 6'2" and can reach the mag switch and altimete
r while still belted in.
Kurt
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I have a stick that I use to adjust my altimeter >>
That beats the band. Well worth a chuckle.
I must admit that having learned to fly in gliders where you are more than
likely to land out in a field with no known height I never bothered too muc
h. More `that elm tree is about 50 feet high, turn final a bit above it`. W
e also have a `transition height` when going higher for serious xcountry fl
ights. This ensures that everyone is on the same baro. pressure to enable t
hem to maintain the quadrantal rule accurately. Never used it myself.
Pat
From: Rick Neilsen<mailto:neilsenrm(at)gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, March 7, 2016 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Extending instrument panel
Pat
Many of us live in remote locations that never talk to control towers. I th
ink it has been ten years since talking to any tower. Even flying into the
the LSA strip at Oshkosh and Sun N Fun, just flew in. I set my altimeter at
the base elevation of the airport I take off from while on the ground.
I have a stick that I use to adjust my altimeter and switches on the panel
while belted in. I have a holder that keeps the stick safely stored when no
t in use. George A got a chuckle and took pictures of it a few years back.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 6:44 AM, Patrick Ladd > wrote:
<>
Thats interesting Larry. Do you not set your altimeter to read zero when yo
u land at an away field? Normally we set QFE Baro pressure at your home fi
eld if just messing about locally. When approaching another field the local
pressure will be passed to you along with wind speed and direction, circu
it direction, circuit height etc. So if you are supposed to join the circui
t at 1000 ft then that is the height which your altimeter shows.
Pat
From: Larry Cottrell<mailto:lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, March 7, 2016 5:55 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Extending instrument panel
Looking at the inside shot of the pictures you posted, there's not much roo
m between the pilot's shins and the bottom edge of the extension.
I am not sure how big you are, but let me tell you how I get into my plane.
I am 6 feet- 235 lbs. I sit backwards on my seat, lift my left leg over th
e stick, and down onto the rudder pedals. I of course reverse this process
to get out of the plane. My plane has longer gear legs, so I had to change
the method of entering the cockpit. With the smaller gear legs, One can lif
t up the wind screen- stick the left leg in, then put your butt on the seat
. Much like what you do to get into a sports car. These are only ways to ge
t in that I have found. Smaller younger pilots will be able to do things th
at I probably cannot.
The only thing on my cockpit that I need to do anything with is adjust the
altimeter. I do that on the ground. The rest of the controls that I need- t
ank selection- fuel pump, strobe, ignition switch are all located in variou
s spots that are within reach.
Primarily what I am saying is that you can position every thing that you ne
ed in spots that allow you to reach them while seated and flying. It just t
akes some thinking on your part. However you are the one that will be flyin
g it, your choice, but give it some serious thought. I have a small center
console in front of the stick that holds my radio, all my switches- plug in
s for the intercom. HAC man system on the left side by the throttle, fuel s
elector switches on the gusset to the left of my seat. Take a poll and see
how many have moved their console out.
Larry
Larry
On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 9:06 PM, George Alexander > wrote:
ilto:gtalexander(at)att.net>>
Mcabbage wrote:
> I would like to extend my fs2 Inst. panel
>
> .S N I P .
>
> Mike
Being one who must remain conscious of leg room, I would be careful how dee
p you make your extension and/or the top to bottom measurement. Too much i
n either of these dimensions will cut down that leg room. Looking at the i
nside shot of the pictures you posted, there's not much room between the pi
lot's shins and the bottom edge of the extension.
As Beauford would say.... "Worth what you paid fer it.."
--------
George Alexander
FS II R503 N709FS
http://www.oh2fly.net
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| Subject: | Re: Extending instrument panel |
| From: | Dave Kulp <undoctor(at)rcn.com> |
Something to consider about your instrument panel;
Autumn of '13 I took off in my FlagFly and at about 800' I had an engine
out. Too low to do a 180 so I looked for a place to put it down. Lots
of soybean fields so I picked the best one and, thinking the soybeans
were maybe 6 - 8" high, went in to land. Found out after I was able to
locate the seat belt buckle (major disorientation when hanging upside
down by the belt!!) drop down and climb out before it caught fire that
the soybeans are about 2 1/2 to 3' high, and the stems are like hemp
ropes. When the landing gear got into the soybeans and stopped, the
nose dug straight down into the ground and bent up as I was forced
forward by the inertia. My shins got acquainted with the bottom of the
instrument panel and I snapped off the bottom of the slip indicator with
my right shin bone. Took a while to heal.
If you look at the pic of the front end and wonder how my face did with
the tube that supports the windscreen, not too bad, Third deep cut at
the same place on the bridge of my nose in my lifetime, so the new scar
is hardly noticeable. I miss the FlagFly bad but I'm not in a position
to replace it just now, plus I'm a tad sensitive about 2 stroke flying
now. That's just me, your mileage may vary.
Dave Kulp
Bethlehem, PA
On 3/7/2016 10:00 AM, Richard Pike wrote:
>
>
> lcottrell wrote:
>> Looking at the inside shot of the pictures you posted, there's not much room
between the pilot's shins and the bottom edge of the extension.
>>
>> The only thing on my cockpit that I need to do anything with is adjust the altimeter.
I do that on the ground. The rest of the controls that I need- tank
selection- fuel pump, strobe, ignition switch are all located in various spots
that are within reach.
>>
>> Primarily what I am saying is that you can position every thing that you need
in spots that allow you to reach them while seated and flying. It just takes
some thinking on your part. However you are the one that will be flying it, your
choice, but give it some serious thought. I have a small center console in
front of the stick that holds my radio, all my switches- plug ins for the intercom.
HAC man system on the left side by the throttle, fuel selector switches
on the gusset to the left of my seat. Take a poll and see how many have moved
their console out.
>> Larry
>>
>>
>
> I agree with what Larry says here. (Even if Scott Olendorf's panel setup is extremely
cool)
>
> It is really easy to make the panel on the FSII slide out a bit; notice that
the wood has holes drilled in it and the windscreen tubes fit through it. You
remove one screw on either side and the panel will slide up the tubes about 8
inches, plenty of room to get access to the back side.
> Radio Shack is out of business, but the little black box with all the switches
on it has lots of room for all your wiring needs. Probably other electronics
shops sell similar boxes.
>
> --------
> Richard Pike
> Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> Kingsport, TN 3TN0
>
> Would you consider yourself to be a good person?
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcDXT6pH7A
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=453512#453512
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/fs_switches_3_274.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/fs_switches_2_166.jpg
>
>
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| From: | william sullivan <williamtsullivan(at)att.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Extending instrument panel |
Looks very repairable to me. Mine was worse than that, and went right back together.
What did you do with it?
Bill Sullivan
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On Tue, 3/8/16, Dave Kulp wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Extending instrument panel
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2016, 12:20 PM
Something to consider about your
instrument panel;
Autumn of '13 I took off in my FlagFly and at about 800' I
had an engine
out. Too low to do a 180 so I looked for a place to
put it down. Lots
of soybean fields so I picked the best one and, thinking the
soybeans
were maybe 6 - 8" high, went in to land. Found out
after I was able to
locate the seat belt buckle (major disorientation when
hanging upside
down by the belt!!) drop down and climb out before it caught
fire that
the soybeans are about 2 1/2 to 3' high, and the stems are
like hemp
ropes. When the landing gear got into the soybeans and
stopped, the
nose dug straight down into the ground and bent up as I was
forced
forward by the inertia. My shins got acquainted with
the bottom of the
instrument panel and I snapped off the bottom of the slip
indicator with
my right shin bone. Took a while to heal.
If you look at the pic of the front end and wonder how my
face did with
the tube that supports the windscreen, not too bad,
Third deep cut at
the same place on the bridge of my nose in my lifetime, so
the new scar
is hardly noticeable. I miss the FlagFly bad but I'm
not in a position
to replace it just now, plus I'm a tad sensitive about 2
stroke flying
now. That's just me, your mileage may vary.
Dave Kulp
Bethlehem, PA
On 3/7/2016 10:00 AM, Richard Pike wrote:
>
>
> lcottrell wrote:
>> Looking at the inside shot of the pictures you
posted, there's not much room between the pilot's shins and
the bottom edge of the extension.
>>
>> The only thing on my cockpit that I need to do
anything with is adjust the altimeter. I do that on the
ground. The rest of the controls that I need- tank
selection- fuel pump, strobe, ignition switch are all
located in various spots that are within reach.
>>
>> Primarily what I am saying is that you can position
every thing that you need in spots that allow you to reach
them while seated and flying. It just takes some thinking on
your part. However you are the one that will be flying it,
your choice, but give it some serious thought. I have a
small center console in front of the stick that holds my
radio, all my switches- plug ins for the intercom. HAC man
system on the left side by the throttle, fuel selector
switches on the gusset to the left of my seat. Take a poll
and see how many have moved their console out.
>> Larry
>>
>>
>
> I agree with what Larry says here. (Even if Scott
Olendorf's panel setup is extremely cool)
>
> It is really easy to make the panel on the FSII slide
out a bit; notice that the wood has holes drilled in it and
the windscreen tubes fit through it. You remove one screw on
either side and the panel will slide up the tubes about 8
inches, plenty of room to get access to the back side.
> Radio Shack is out of business, but the little black
box with all the switches on it has lots of room for all
your wiring needs. Probably other electronics shops sell
similar boxes.
>
> --------
> Richard Pike
> Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> Kingsport, TN 3TN0
>
> Would you consider yourself to be a good person?
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcDXT6pH7A
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=453512#453512
>
>
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/fs_switches_3_274.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/fs_switches_2_166.jpg
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Extending instrument panel |
| From: | Dave Kulp <undoctor(at)rcn.com> |
I sold it to a man up on the Cape (Cod) who has a business of restoring
antique cars. He called me about all the dimensions and built a
stainless steel trailer to come down and pick the FlagFly up.
The damage, although I ended up upside down, was solely to the cage, but
I figured it would be foolish to spend the money (I'm not equipped to do
it myself) to have it repaired and still have a 2 stroke engine. Now
that it's gone I probably should have considered replacing the engine
with a 4 stroke because it was built meticulously and I loved that
little thing!!! Like a sports car in the sky.
Dave
On 3/8/2016 12:57 PM, william sullivan wrote:
>
> Looks very repairable to me. Mine was worse than that, and went right back
together. What did you do with it?
>
> Bill Sullivan
> --------------------------------------------
> On Tue, 3/8/16, Dave Kulp wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Extending instrument panel
> To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2016, 12:20 PM
>
> Something to consider about your
> instrument panel;
> Autumn of '13 I took off in my FlagFly and at about 800' I
> had an engine
> out. Too low to do a 180 so I looked for a place to
> put it down. Lots
> of soybean fields so I picked the best one and, thinking the
> soybeans
> were maybe 6 - 8" high, went in to land. Found out
> after I was able to
> locate the seat belt buckle (major disorientation when
> hanging upside
> down by the belt!!) drop down and climb out before it caught
> fire that
> the soybeans are about 2 1/2 to 3' high, and the stems are
> like hemp
> ropes. When the landing gear got into the soybeans and
> stopped, the
> nose dug straight down into the ground and bent up as I was
> forced
> forward by the inertia. My shins got acquainted with
> the bottom of the
> instrument panel and I snapped off the bottom of the slip
> indicator with
> my right shin bone. Took a while to heal.
>
> If you look at the pic of the front end and wonder how my
> face did with
> the tube that supports the windscreen, not too bad,
> Third deep cut at
> the same place on the bridge of my nose in my lifetime, so
> the new scar
> is hardly noticeable. I miss the FlagFly bad but I'm
> not in a position
> to replace it just now, plus I'm a tad sensitive about 2
> stroke flying
> now. That's just me, your mileage may vary.
>
> Dave Kulp
> Bethlehem, PA
>
> On 3/7/2016 10:00 AM, Richard Pike wrote:
>
> >
>
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| From: | Bill Berle <victorbravo(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Extending instrument panel |
I'm about to receive a used FireStar 2 kit in 2 days, and I am planning to put
in the 4 stroke Big Bad Twin engine from Valley Engineering. Where I'm going to
fly this airplane (Los Angeles city) definitely requires the reliability of
a 4 stroke. From all the research I've done, it appears to be an affordable, reliable,
and good performing engine for this type aircraft. I will report on my
progress with this engine.
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
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On Tue, 3/8/16, Dave Kulp wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Extending instrument panel
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2016, 10:44 AM
Dave Kulp
I sold it to a man up on the Cape (Cod) who has a business
of restoring
antique cars. He called me about all the dimensions
and built a
stainless steel trailer to come down and pick the FlagFly
up.
The damage, although I ended up upside down, was solely to
the cage, but
I figured it would be foolish to spend the money (I'm not
equipped to do
it myself) to have it repaired and still have a 2 stroke
engine. Now
that it's gone I probably should have considered replacing
the engine
with a 4 stroke because it was built meticulously and I
loved that
little thing!!! Like a sports car in the sky.
Dave
On 3/8/2016 12:57 PM, william sullivan wrote:
>
> Looks very repairable to me. Mine
was worse than that, and went right back together.
What did you do with it?
>
>
Bill
Sullivan
> --------------------------------------------
> On Tue, 3/8/16, Dave Kulp
wrote:
>
>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Extending
instrument panel
>To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
>Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2016, 12:20
PM
>
>Something to consider about your
>instrument panel;
>Autumn of '13 I took off in my FlagFly
and at about 800' I
>had an engine
>out. Too low to do a 180 so I
looked for a place to
>put it down. Lots
>of soybean fields so I picked the best
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