Kolb-Archive.digest.vol-nr
March 08, 2016 - March 16, 2016
one and, thinking the
>soybeans
>were maybe 6 - 8" high, went in to
land. Found out
>after I was able to
>locate the seat belt buckle (major
disorientation when
>hanging upside
>down by the belt!!) drop down and
climb out before it caught
>fire that
>the soybeans are about 2 1/2 to 3'
high, and the stems are
>like hemp
>ropes. When the landing gear got
into the soybeans and
>stopped, the
>nose dug straight down into the ground
and bent up as I was
>forced
>forward by the inertia. My shins
got acquainted with
>the bottom of the
>instrument panel and I snapped off the
bottom of the slip
>indicator with
>my right shin bone. Took a while
to heal.
>
>If you look at the pic of the front
end and wonder how my
>face did with
>the tube that supports the windscreen,
not too bad,
>Third deep cut at
>the same place on the bridge of my
nose in my lifetime, so
>the new scar
>is hardly noticeable. I miss the
FlagFly bad but I'm
>not in a position
>to replace it just now, plus I'm a tad
sensitive about 2
>stroke flying
>now. That's just me, your
mileage may vary.
>
>Dave Kulp
>Bethlehem, PA
>
>On 3/7/2016 10:00 AM, Richard Pike
wrote:
>> --> Kolb-List message posted
by: "Richard Pike"
>
>>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Extending instrument panel |
| From: | undoctor <undoctor(at)rcn.com> |
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Extending instrument panel |
That engine did not perform well on the Kolb Firestar II.
We had one builder install one. I did not fly it, but had a chance to watch it
fly for several days. As I said. It did not perform well on the FSII.
Of course, this is my opinion only.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Berle
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Extending instrument panel
I'm about to receive a used FireStar 2 kit in 2 days, and I am planning to put
in the 4 stroke Big Bad Twin engine from Valley Engineering. Where I'm going to
fly this airplane (Los Angeles city) definitely requires the reliability of
a 4 stroke. From all the research I've done, it appears to be an affordable, reliable,
and good performing engine for this type aircraft. I will report on my
progress with this engine.
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 3/8/16, Dave Kulp wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Extending instrument panel
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2016, 10:44 AM
Dave Kulp
I sold it to a man up on the Cape (Cod) who has a business of restoring antique
cars. He called me about all the dimensions and built a stainless steel
trailer to come down and pick the FlagFly up.
The damage, although I ended up upside down, was solely to the cage, but I figured
it would be foolish to spend the money (I'm not equipped to do it myself)
to have it repaired and still have a 2 stroke engine. Now that it's gone
I probably should have considered replacing the engine with a 4 stroke because
it was built meticulously and I loved that little thing!!! Like a sports
car in the sky.
Dave
On 3/8/2016 12:57 PM, william sullivan wrote:
>
>
Bill
Sullivan
> --------------------------------------------
> On Tue, 3/8/16, Dave Kulp
wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Extending instrument panel > To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2016, 12:20 PM > > Something
to consider about your > instrument panel; > Autumn of '13 I took off in
my FlagFly and at about 800' I > had an engine > out. Too low to do a
180 so I looked for a place to > put it down. Lots > of soybean fields
so I picked the best one and, thinking the > soybeans > were maybe 6
- 8" high, went in to land. Found out > after I was able to > locate the
seat belt buckle (major disorientation when > hanging upside > down
by the belt!!) drop down and climb out before it caught > fire that > the
soybeans are about 2 1/2 to 3'
high, and the stems are
> like hemp
> ropes. When the landing gear got
into the soybeans and
> stopped, the
> nose dug straight down into the ground and bent up as I was > forced
> forward by the inertia. My shins got acquainted with > the bottom of
the > instrument panel and I snapped off the bottom of the slip > indicator
with > my right shin bone. Took a while to heal.
>
> If you look at the pic of the front end and wonder how my > face did with
> the tube that supports the windscreen, not too bad, > Third deep
cut at > the same place on the bridge of my nose in my lifetime, so > the
new scar > is hardly noticeable. I miss the FlagFly bad but I'm > not
in a position > to replace it just now, plus I'm a tad sensitive about
2 > stroke flying > now. That's just me, your mileage may vary.
>
> Dave Kulp
> Bethlehem, PA
>
> On 3/7/2016 10:00 AM, Richard Pike
wrote:
> > --> Kolb-List message posted
by: "Richard Pike"
>
> >
>
Lists This Month --
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Extending instrument panel |
I might add to my previous post, the HKS engine has proven to be a good, reliable
performer on the FSII. I have flown this configuration several times. Larry
Cottrell's FSII is HKS powered.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Berle
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Extending instrument panel
I'm about to receive a used FireStar 2 kit in 2 days, and I am planning to put
in the 4 stroke Big Bad Twin engine from Valley Engineering. Where I'm going to
fly this airplane (Los Angeles city) definitely requires the reliability of
a 4 stroke. From all the research I've done, it appears to be an affordable, reliable,
and good performing engine for this type aircraft. I will report on my
progress with this engine.
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 3/8/16, Dave Kulp wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Extending instrument panel
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2016, 10:44 AM
Dave Kulp
I sold it to a man up on the Cape (Cod) who has a business of restoring antique
cars. He called me about all the dimensions and built a stainless steel
trailer to come down and pick the FlagFly up.
The damage, although I ended up upside down, was solely to the cage, but I figured
it would be foolish to spend the money (I'm not equipped to do it myself)
to have it repaired and still have a 2 stroke engine. Now that it's gone
I probably should have considered replacing the engine with a 4 stroke because
it was built meticulously and I loved that little thing!!! Like a sports
car in the sky.
Dave
On 3/8/2016 12:57 PM, william sullivan wrote:
>
>
Bill
Sullivan
> --------------------------------------------
> On Tue, 3/8/16, Dave Kulp
wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Extending instrument panel > To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2016, 12:20 PM > > Something
to consider about your > instrument panel; > Autumn of '13 I took off in
my FlagFly and at about 800' I > had an engine > out. Too low to do a
180 so I looked for a place to > put it down. Lots > of soybean fields
so I picked the best one and, thinking the > soybeans > were maybe 6
- 8" high, went in to land. Found out > after I was able to > locate the
seat belt buckle (major disorientation when > hanging upside > down
by the belt!!) drop down and climb out before it caught > fire that > the
soybeans are about 2 1/2 to 3'
high, and the stems are
> like hemp
> ropes. When the landing gear got
into the soybeans and
> stopped, the
> nose dug straight down into the ground and bent up as I was > forced
> forward by the inertia. My shins got acquainted with > the bottom of
the > instrument panel and I snapped off the bottom of the slip > indicator
with > my right shin bone. Took a while to heal.
>
> If you look at the pic of the front end and wonder how my > face did with
> the tube that supports the windscreen, not too bad, > Third deep
cut at > the same place on the bridge of my nose in my lifetime, so > the
new scar > is hardly noticeable. I miss the FlagFly bad but I'm > not
in a position > to replace it just now, plus I'm a tad sensitive about
2 > stroke flying > now. That's just me, your mileage may vary.
>
> Dave Kulp
> Bethlehem, PA
>
> On 3/7/2016 10:00 AM, Richard Pike
wrote:
> > --> Kolb-List message posted
by: "Richard Pike"
>
> >
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| From: | Bill Berle <victorbravo(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Extending instrument panel |
What was the problem with that engine? What specifically did it not do well?
Bill Berle
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On Tue, 3/8/16, John Hauck wrote:
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Extending instrument panel
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2016, 5:14 PM
"John Hauck"
That engine did not perform well on the Kolb Firestar
II.
We had one builder install one. I did not fly it, but had a
chance to watch it fly for several days. As I
said. It did not perform well on the FSII.
Of course, this is my opinion only.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com]
On Behalf Of Bill Berle
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 1:26 PM
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Extending instrument panel
I'm about to receive a used FireStar 2 kit in 2 days, and I
am planning to put in the 4 stroke Big Bad Twin engine from
Valley Engineering. Where I'm going to fly this airplane
(Los Angeles city) definitely requires the reliability of a
4 stroke. From all the research I've done, it appears to be
an affordable, reliable, and good performing engine for this
type aircraft. I will report on my progress with this
engine.
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance
upgrade for light aircraft www.grantstar.net
- winning proposals for
non-profit and for-profit entities
--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 3/8/16, Dave Kulp
wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Extending instrument panel
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2016, 10:44 AM
Dave Kulp
I sold it to a man up on the Cape (Cod) who has a
business of restoring antique cars. He
called me about all the dimensions and built a
stainless steel trailer to come down and pick the
FlagFly up.
The damage, although I ended up upside down, was solely
to the cage, but I figured it would be foolish
to spend the money (I'm not equipped to do it
myself) to have it repaired and still have a 2 stroke
engine. Now that it's gone I probably should
have considered replacing the engine with a 4
stroke because it was built meticulously and I loved
that little thing!!! Like a sports car in the
sky.
Dave
On 3/8/2016 12:57 PM, william sullivan wrote:
sullivan
> > Looks very repairable to
me. Mine was worse than that, and went right
back together. What did you do with it?
>
>
Bill
Sullivan
> --------------------------------------------
> On Tue, 3/8/16, Dave Kulp
wrote:
>
>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re:
Extending instrument panel
>To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
>Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2016,
12:20 PM >
>Something to consider about your
>instrument panel;
>Autumn of '13 I took off in my
FlagFly and at about 800' I
>had an engine
>out. Too low to do a 180 so
I looked for a place to
>put it down. Lots
>of soybean fields so I picked the
best one and, thinking the
>soybeans
>were maybe 6 - 8" high, went in
to land. Found out
>after I was able to
>locate the seat belt buckle
(major disorientation when
>hanging upside
>down by the belt!!) drop down
and climb out before it caught
>fire that
>the soybeans are about 2 1/2 to 3'
high, and the stems are
>like hemp
>ropes. When the landing gear
got
into the soybeans and
>stopped, the
>nose dug straight down into the
ground and bent up as I was
>forced
>forward by the inertia. My
shins got acquainted with
>the bottom of the
>instrument panel and I snapped off
the bottom of the slip
>indicator with
>my right shin bone. Took a
while to heal.
>
>If you look at the pic of the
front end and wonder how my
>face did with
>the tube that supports the
windscreen, not too bad,
>Third deep cut at
>the same place on the bridge of
my nose in my lifetime, so
>the new scar
>is hardly noticeable. I miss
the FlagFly bad but I'm
>not in a position
>to replace it just now, plus I'm a
tad sensitive about 2
>stroke flying
>now. That's just me, your
mileage may vary.
>
>Dave Kulp
>Bethlehem, PA
>
>On 3/7/2016 10:00 AM, Richard Pike
wrote:
>> --> Kolb-List message posted
by: "Richard Pike"
>
>>
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| From: | "George Bearden" <gab16(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Extending instrument panel > Now, Generac |
Bill Berle, Look for an email from me on this topic. I sent you the write-up
Jimmy Young made on his purchase of this engine on his FS II.
I *think* Jimmy Young may be the person John Hauck was referring to.
GeoB
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "George Bearden" <gab16(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | RE: Kolb-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 03/08/16 |
> What was the problem with that engine? What specifically did it not do
well?
Take off and climb suffered, less performance than the 503 it replaced. Top
speed near the same, as written by Jimmy Young.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Extending instrument panel |
Was very low on power.
The FS flew in from Houston, TX, to our flyin at Star Hill, LA. I did not pay
much attention to the power plant other than watch it fly. Cannot remember if
it was running a redrive or not.
Don't get me wrong. I am not saying anything derogatory about the power plant,
but I am saying take off and climb performance was very poor, something not natural
to a FSII.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Berle
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 9:30 PM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Extending instrument panel
What was the problem with that engine? What specifically did it not do well?
Bill Berle
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--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 3/8/16, John Hauck wrote:
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Extending instrument panel
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2016, 5:14 PM
"John Hauck"
That engine did not perform well on the Kolb Firestar II.
We had one builder install one. I did not fly it, but had a chance to watch it
fly for several days. As I said. It did not perform well on the FSII.
Of course, this is my opinion only.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com]
On Behalf Of Bill Berle
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 1:26 PM
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Extending instrument panel
I'm about to receive a used FireStar 2 kit in 2 days, and I am planning to put
in the 4 stroke Big Bad Twin engine from Valley Engineering. Where I'm going
to fly this airplane (Los Angeles city) definitely requires the reliability
of a
4 stroke. From all the research I've done, it appears to be an affordable, reliable,
and good performing engine for this type aircraft. I will report on my
progress with this engine.
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft www.grantstar.net
- winning proposals for
non-profit and for-profit entities
--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 3/8/16, Dave Kulp
wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Extending instrument panel
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2016, 10:44 AM
Dave Kulp
I sold it to a man up on the Cape (Cod) who has a business of restoring antique
cars. He called me about all the dimensions and built a stainless steel
trailer to come down and pick the FlagFly up.
The damage, although I ended up upside down, was solely to the cage, but I
figured it would be foolish to spend the money (I'm not equipped to do it
myself) to have it repaired and still have a 2 stroke engine. Now that it's
gone I probably should have considered replacing the engine with a 4 stroke
because it was built meticulously and I loved that little thing!!! Like
a sports car in the sky.
Dave
On 3/8/2016 12:57 PM, william sullivan wrote:
>
>
Bill
Sullivan
> --------------------------------------------
> On Tue, 3/8/16, Dave Kulp
wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re:
Extending instrument panel
> To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2016,
12:20 PM >
> Something to consider about your
> instrument panel;
> Autumn of '13 I took off in my
FlagFly and at about 800' I
> had an engine
> out. Too low to do a 180 so
I looked for a place to
> put it down. Lots
> of soybean fields so I picked the
best one and, thinking the
> soybeans
> were maybe 6 - 8" high, went in
to land. Found out
> after I was able to
> locate the seat belt buckle
(major disorientation when
> hanging upside
> down by the belt!!) drop down
and climb out before it caught
> fire that
> the soybeans are about 2 1/2 to 3'
high, and the stems are
> like hemp
> ropes. When the landing gear
got
into the soybeans and
> stopped, the
> nose dug straight down into the
ground and bent up as I was
> forced
> forward by the inertia. My
shins got acquainted with
> the bottom of the
> instrument panel and I snapped off
the bottom of the slip
> indicator with
> my right shin bone. Took a
while to heal.
>
> If you look at the pic of the
front end and wonder how my
> face did with
> the tube that supports the
windscreen, not too bad,
> Third deep cut at
> the same place on the bridge of
my nose in my lifetime, so
> the new scar
> is hardly noticeable. I miss
the FlagFly bad but I'm
> not in a position
> to replace it just now, plus I'm a
tad sensitive about 2
> stroke flying
> now. That's just me, your
mileage may vary.
>
> Dave Kulp
> Bethlehem, PA
>
> On 3/7/2016 10:00 AM, Richard Pike
wrote:
> > --> Kolb-List message posted
by: "Richard Pike"
>
> >
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| From: | "b young" <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | matco brake manual |
for those who would like the technical service guide for matco wheels and b
rakes... you can go to the web sight www.matcomfg.com and do a search for y
our wheels and one of the results will be a pdf file for your wheels and br
akes. this is the link for the matco mh6b series. http://static.veracart
=2Ecom/matco/item_pdfs/2395/document1.pdf
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| From: | "KIRBY, DENNIS T GS-13 USAF AFMC AFNWC/EZS" <dennis.kirby.3(at)us.af.mil> |
| Subject: | Tires for your Firestar |
Bill Berle asked: << Can anyone here tell me which is the best or best compromise
choice for wheels brakes and tires, for my particular intended
use? I will be building up this Firestar specifically as an off-airport, back
country, extreme STOL aircraft to explore small landing areas. ... Which combinations
of wheels/brakes/tires have been successful on the Kolb aircraft
for this type of mission? >>
Bill -
My experience has shown that, for tires, avoid the "wavy tread" ultralight 800x6
tires that are so popular in so many of today's Light Sport airplanes (Kolbs
included). Those tires look cool, and "off-roady" but they are usually dismally
out of balance.
I put a pair of those on my Mark-3 several years ago, but took them off after a
few weeks. On takeoff roll, my instrument panel would shake so badly that I
could not even read the instruments. Tried to balance them at various motorcycle
or ATV shops, but none could do it.
For larger tires suitable for off-airport and back country landing places, get
general aviation tires (Desser, Air Hawk, etc.) of size 800x6 or 850x6. They're
a bit more expensive, but worth it. Get 4-ply if you can, instead of 6-ply.
They'll be softer and add extra cushion on landings. As light as our Kolbs
are, you'll be able to operate those tires with as low as 10 or 8 psi. You'll
probably never wear them out.
Dennis Kirby
Mark-3 / 912ul
Sandia Park, NM
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Tires for your Firestar |
| From: | B Young <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com> |
To avoid the out of balance I put on a set of airtrack 600 x 6. Aircraft
tires.
When I took off I thought the plane was going to shake apart....
Balanced the tires with the self sticking weights inside the rim. It is
now so smooth, no shake at all. One tire took 6 little squares,, the
other took 6 on both the inside and outside halves... So much for pre
balanced aircraft tires...
My neighbor said they would determine how much weight was needed, cut a
piece of old inner tube and vulcanize it to the inside of the tire on the
light side, then use 1 or 2 weights to finish the job.
Boyd Y
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Bill Berle <victorbravo(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Tires for your Firestar |
I am hoping to fly with larger tires than 6.00 x 6. My hope is to use some sort
of modest price ATV or off-road vehicle tire in the neighborhood of what would
be 8.00 x 6 to 8.50 x 6 in the airplane world. My entire purpose for this aircraft
is to go out and play in the dirt, grass hilltops, riverbeds, etc. So diameter
and "flotation" are somewhat significant to me. I do not need to go up
to the horriblyexpensive 29 inch aircraft "bush" and "tundra" tires. That money
is going into the gas tank :)
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
--------------------------------------------
On Fri, 3/11/16, B Young wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Tires for your Firestar
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Friday, March 11, 2016, 3:01 PM
To avoid the out of
balance I put on a set of airtrack 600 x 6. Aircraft
tires.
When I took off I thought the plane was going
to shake apart.... Balanced the tires with the self
sticking weights inside the rim. It is now so smooth, no
shake at all. One tire took 6 little squares,, the
other took 6 on both the inside and outside halves... So
much for pre balanced aircraft tires...
My neighbor said they would determine how much
weight was needed, cut a piece of old inner tube and
vulcanize it to the inside of the tire on the light side,
then use 1 or 2 weights to finish the job.
Boyd Y
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Dennis Rowe <rowedenny(at)windstream.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Tires for your Firestar |
My Carlisle turf glides "the ones that everyone has and are out of balance "
only shake after lift off and I spike my brakes and all is smooth.=F0=9F=98
=9B
Lister Joe Lawson sales done huge diameter tires and wheels with black max h
ydraulic brakes that are quite reasonable.
Dennis "Skid" Rowe
> On Mar 11, 2016, at 6:01 PM, B Young wrote:
>
> To avoid the out of balance I put on a set of airtrack 600 x 6. Aircraft t
ires.
>
> When I took off I thought the plane was going to shake apart.... Balanc
ed the tires with the self sticking weights inside the rim. It is now so sm
ooth, no shake at all. One tire took 6 little squares,, the other took 6 o
n both the inside and outside halves... So much for pre balanced aircraft t
ires...
>
> My neighbor said they would determine how much weight was needed, cut a pi
ece of old inner tube and vulcanize it to the inside of the tire on the ligh
t side, then use 1 or 2 weights to finish the job.
>
> Boyd Y
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Tires for your Firestar |
My experience with different tires on Kolbs resulted in buying Airtracs from Desser
Tire Company, 800x6, 4 ply. They have been on my MKIII a long time and many,
many landings.
I tried the "golf cart" type tires in 800x6 with poor results. They tried to shake
the main gear off the MKIII on takeoff.
The primary difference between slow speed off road type tires and aircraft tires
is:
-Aircraft tires are "trued" and "balanced" after they are manufactured. You can't
make an out of round tire round with weights.
-Mine are rated at 110 or 120 mph. No problem there. I would have a hard time
hitting 120 in a 90 degree dive.
Good tires and tubes are worth the money. I could not takeoff with a flat tire.
Some of the places we fly, especially out West, I couldn't walk out for help.
I have to have tires and tubes that are reliable.
If I am going to be flying off pavement, primarily, I use 10-15 psi. A combination
of dirt and pavement, 6-10 psi works for me. I have 6 psi in them now.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Berle
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Tires for your Firestar
I am hoping to fly with larger tires than 6.00 x 6. My hope is to use some sort
of modest price ATV or off-road vehicle tire in the neighborhood of what would
be 8.00 x 6 to 8.50 x 6 in the airplane world. My entire purpose for this aircraft
is to go out and play in the dirt, grass hilltops, riverbeds, etc. So diameter
and "flotation" are somewhat significant to me. I do not need to go up
to the horriblyexpensive 29 inch aircraft "bush" and "tundra" tires. That money
is going into the gas tank :)
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
--------------------------------------------
On Fri, 3/11/16, B Young wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Tires for your Firestar
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Friday, March 11, 2016, 3:01 PM
To avoid the out of
balance I put on a set of airtrack 600 x 6. Aircraft tires.
When I took off I thought the plane was going to shake apart.... Balanced
the tires with the self sticking weights inside the rim. It is now so smooth,
no shake at all. One tire took 6 little squares,, the other took 6 on both
the inside and outside halves... So much for pre balanced aircraft tires...
My neighbor said they would determine how much weight was needed, cut a piece
of old inner tube and vulcanize it to the inside of the tire on the light side,
then use 1 or 2 weights to finish the job.
Boyd Y
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Tires for your Firestar |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
http://desser.wspdev.com/Aircraft-Tires-and-Tubes/21800-6-4-PLY.asp
Take a look at these. It is the best price that I can find for a larger
tire. Those secured from turning with the screws as I did earlier would be
a good combination. I would advise you to have the 4130 gear legs,
preferably the longer 36 inch version. The spring that is built into these
legs will reduce the shock to your frame from rough country, and with the
tires secured to the rim you can let a lot of the air out to further
cushion the plane.
We will be installing a pair of these tires to Boyd's plane soon. He can
give you a report then.
Larry
On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 4:21 PM, Bill Berle
wrote:
>
> I am hoping to fly with larger tires than 6.00 x 6. My hope is to use some
> sort of modest price ATV or off-road vehicle tire in the neighborhood of
> what would be 8.00 x 6 to 8.50 x 6 in the airplane world. My entire purpose
> for this aircraft is to go out and play in the dirt, grass hilltops,
> riverbeds, etc. So diameter and "flotation" are somewhat significant to me.
> I do not need to go up to the horriblyexpensive 29 inch aircraft "bush" and
> "tundra" tires. That money is going into the gas tank :)
>
> Bill Berle
> www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
> www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and
> for-profit entities
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Fri, 3/11/16, B Young wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Tires for your Firestar
> To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> Date: Friday, March 11, 2016, 3:01 PM
>
> To avoid the out of
> balance I put on a set of airtrack 600 x 6. Aircraft
> tires.
> When I took off I thought the plane was going
> to shake apart.... Balanced the tires with the self
> sticking weights inside the rim. It is now so smooth, no
> shake at all. One tire took 6 little squares,, the
> other took 6 on both the inside and outside halves... So
> much for pre balanced aircraft tires...
> My neighbor said they would determine how much
> weight was needed, cut a piece of old inner tube and
> vulcanize it to the inside of the tire on the light side,
> then use 1 or 2 weights to finish the job.
> Boyd Y
>
>
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Tires for your Firestar |
Did you all see these tubes? Look like a good idea.
http://www.desser.com/Aircraft-Tires-and-Tubes/TU-700800-6-AM.asp
4" taller on those Airtracs would improve off field work. Also set the
nose of the Kolb a couple inches higher.
Putting a tail dragger in a good, nose high stance improves performance
in several areas:
-Can get off the ground quicker.
-Can land shorter.
-The more the bottom of the wing is turned up the quicker you can stop.
-Can perform nice full stall landings without bumping the tail wheel.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry
Cottrell
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Tires for your Firestar
http://desser.wspdev.com/Aircraft-Tires-and-Tubes/21800-6-4-PLY.asp
Take a look at these. It is the best price that I can find for a larger
tire. Those secured from turning with the screws as I did earlier would
be a good combination. I would advise you to have the 4130 gear legs,
preferably the longer 36 inch version. The spring that is built into
these legs will reduce the shock to your frame from rough country, and
with the tires secured to the rim you can let a lot of the air out to
further cushion the plane.
We will be installing a pair of these tires to Boyd's plane soon. He can
give you a report then.
Larry
On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 4:21 PM, Bill Berle
wrote:
I am hoping to fly with larger tires than 6.00 x 6. My hope is to use
some sort of modest price ATV or off-road vehicle tire in the
neighborhood of what would be 8.00 x 6 to 8.50 x 6 in the airplane
world. My entire purpose for this aircraft is to go out and play in the
dirt, grass hilltops, riverbeds, etc. So diameter and "flotation" are
somewhat significant to me. I do not need to go up to the
horriblyexpensive 29 inch aircraft "bush" and "tundra" tires. That money
is going into the gas tank :)
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and
for-profit entities
--------------------------------------------
On Fri, 3/11/16, B Young wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Tires for your Firestar
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Friday, March 11, 2016, 3:01 PM
To avoid the out of
balance I put on a set of airtrack 600 x 6. Aircraft
tires.
When I took off I thought the plane was going
to shake apart.... Balanced the tires with the self
sticking weights inside the rim. It is now so smooth, no
shake at all. One tire took 6 little squares,, the
other took 6 on both the inside and outside halves... So
much for pre balanced aircraft tires...
My neighbor said they would determine how much
weight was needed, cut a piece of old inner tube and
vulcanize it to the inside of the tire on the light side,
then use 1 or 2 weights to finish the job.
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| Subject: | Re: Tires for your Firestar |
| From: | Charlie England <ceengland7(at)gmail.com> |
Just a heads-up; if you think a/c tires are trued & balanced, read this
installation guide carefully. :-)
http://www.desser.com/content/tire_mounting_info.asp
Charlie
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Tires for your Firestar |
Yes, aircraft tires are trued and balanced when manufactured. Of course the tire,
tube, and wheel assembly must be fine tuned when mounted, just like an auto
tire that is also trued and balanced when they are manufactured.
Off road, golf cart type tires are not trued and balanced when manufactured. It
is obvious when you mount an egg shaped out balance tire on your airplane.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charlie England
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 8:59 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Tires for your Firestar
Just a heads-up; if you think a/c tires are trued & balanced, read this installation
guide carefully. :-)
http://www.desser.com/content/tire_mounting_info.asp
Charlie
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Tires for your Firestar |
| From: | Charlie England <ceengland7(at)gmail.com> |
OK, lets go with your assertion. Why are there explicit instructions on
aligning a stripe on the tube with a red dot on the tire, or aligning a
red dot on the tire with the valve stem if there's no stripe on the tube?
On 3/11/2016 9:36 PM, John Hauck wrote:
>
> Yes, aircraft tires are trued and balanced when manufactured. Of course the
tire, tube, and wheel assembly must be fine tuned when mounted, just like an auto
tire that is also trued and balanced when they are manufactured.
>
> Off road, golf cart type tires are not trued and balanced when manufactured.
It is obvious when you mount an egg shaped out balance tire on your airplane.
>
> john h
> mkIII
> Titus, Alabama
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charlie England
> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 8:59 PM
> To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Tires for your Firestar
>
>
> Just a heads-up; if you think a/c tires are trued & balanced, read this installation
guide carefully. :-)
>
> http://www.desser.com/content/tire_mounting_info.asp
>
> Charlie
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tires for your Firestar |
| From: | "Thumper" <dlong1957(at)yahoo.com> |
Search Nanco for some tires that are soft but for off-roading. I think someone
assembles and sells sets using these tires. The smooth ones with no rib from
the quads used on sand are the most popular, not sure they aren't 8" rims though.
6" I think can be had? Cheaper and you don't need those real wide ones
on an airplane. Narrow profile is preferred.
--------
Dennis Long
Oakland TN
2000 Aeroprakt A20 Vista Cruiser, 2016 A22LS Aeroprakt
Previously Kolb Mark IIIC, 94 Firestar, 84 Ultrastar.
1200+hours since 1/1/2009
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Tires for your Firestar |
To the best of my knowledge, there is a reference mark on all auto/truck and aircraft
tires to align the valve stem, whether tube or tubeless. The valve stem,
tube or tubeless, is aligned with the mark on the tire bead. I imagine the
tire is manufactured to compensate for the valve stem and the valve stem hole
in the wheel. What do you think?
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charlie England
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Tires for your Firestar
OK, lets go with your assertion. Why are there explicit instructions on aligning
a stripe on the tube with a red dot on the tire, or aligning a red dot on the
tire with the valve stem if there's no stripe on the tube?
On 3/11/2016 9:36 PM, John Hauck wrote:
>
> Yes, aircraft tires are trued and balanced when manufactured. Of course the
tire, tube, and wheel assembly must be fine tuned when mounted, just like an auto
tire that is also trued and balanced when they are manufactured.
>
> Off road, golf cart type tires are not trued and balanced when manufactured.
It is obvious when you mount an egg shaped out balance tire on your airplane.
>
> john h
> mkIII
> Titus, Alabama
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charlie
> England
> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 8:59 PM
> To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Tires for your Firestar
>
> -->
>
> Just a heads-up; if you think a/c tires are trued & balanced, read
> this installation guide carefully. :-)
>
> http://www.desser.com/content/tire_mounting_info.asp
>
> Charlie
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tires for your Firestar |
| From: | "Carolina Flyer" <joe.a.lawson(at)gmail.com> |
This is just my opinion but these are the best tires and wheel combination for
a Firestar. HUGE 21" X 12" X 8" 2-PLY TIRES, 8" Diameter one piece Aluminum
Wheels. Wheels 7"and 9" wide are in stock now . Custom sizes can be made. This
is your one-stop source for Tundra/Bush Wheels, Tires, and Brake Systems. I
have been supplying wheels and tires and brake systems to ultralights owners
all the way up LSA owners. All the way up to 1500 lbs. 5/8" to beefy 3/4" axles.
Either hand controls or heel & toe dual master cylinder configurations. I have
single piston calipers and also dual piston calipers available. Whether you
need Single items or complete systems we can make what you need.
--------
Kolb Firestar II
503 C-Box / RK400
Soon to have a
Rotax 670 DCDI
with a C-Box and
RK 400 Clutch
Challenger II
503 Tall Drive
Location : Buffalo South Carolina
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| Subject: | Re: Tires for your Firestar |
| From: | "Carolina Flyer" <joe.a.lawson(at)gmail.com> |
As for the profile the one on the right is a 7 inch rim the one on the left is
a 9 inch wheel, both have the same amount of air pressure. I have been selling
these for the past nine years. I have never had a customer tell me that they
did not like them after they received. For a customers convenience I mount
the tires on the wheels so they will not have any problem with installation.
--------
Kolb Firestar II
503 C-Box / RK400
Soon to have a
Rotax 670 DCDI
with a C-Box and
RK 400 Clutch
Challenger II
503 Tall Drive
Location : Buffalo South Carolina
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=453701#453701
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| From: | Bill Berle <victorbravo(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Tires for your Firestar |
Thank you for the photos and video Carolina Flyer. I have several questions:
1) The tires that are in that video and the photos... are they larger diameter
or smaller diameter than 8.50 x 6?
2) How does someone change the tire and/or inner tube without being able to disassemble
the wheel? Do I have to go to a tire store to use their huge machine
to remove or install the tire?
3) Is your company the same as Black Max or are you a separate company?
4) What is the price of this combination of those tires and wheels to buy from
you?
5) Do these tires need screws or pins to keep them from spinning on the wheel and
cutting the valve stem?
Bill Berle
--------------------------------------------
On Sat, 3/12/16, Carolina Flyer wrote:
This is just my opinion but these are the best tires and
wheel combination for a Firestar. HUGE 21" X 12" X
8" 2-PLY TIRES, 8" Diameter one piece Aluminum
Wheels. Wheels 7"and 9" wide are in stock now . Custom sizes
can be made. This is your one-stop source for Tundra/Bush
Wheels, Tires, and Brake Systems. I have been
supplying wheels and tires and brake systems to ultralights
owners all the way up LSA owners. All the way up to 1500
lbs. 5/8" to beefy 3/4" axles. Either hand controls or heel
& toe dual master cylinder configurations. I have single
piston calipers and also dual piston calipers available.
Whether you need Single items or complete systems we can
make what you need.
--------
Kolb Firestar II
503 C-Box / RK400
Soon to have a
Rotax 670 DCDI
with a C-Box and
RK 400 Clutch
Challenger II
503 Tall Drive
Location : Buffalo South Carolina
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=453700#453700
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| Subject: | Re: Tires for your Firestar |
| From: | "Carolina Flyer" <joe.a.lawson(at)gmail.com> |
Bill these tires are 21" in diameter. No inter-tubes required, I install the tires
on the wheels, so you do not need to worry about that, no screws required.
Do not own black max but I am a authorized dealer for them and have been for
many years. I purchased my brakes from black max, but the wheels I have a company
that custom makes them just for me. The wheels are made to my specification.
And the tires I buy wholesale from the company that imports them into this
country. So I don't have to go out and buy them retail and mark them up you
can find them on eBay but you won't beat my price... Anyone is interested I
can be reached at 864-427-0101
--------
Kolb Firestar II
503 C-Box / RK400
Soon to have a
Rotax 670 DCDI
with a C-Box and
RK 400 Clutch
Challenger II
503 Tall Drive
Location : Buffalo South Carolina
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| From: | Bill Berle <victorbravo(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Tires for your Firestar |
Hi Joe, thank you for the reply.
So if I'm out somewhere, happily flying along with the tires and wheels I bought
from you, and I shred or puncture a tire because I landed on some kind of shrapnel
... do I need to call you to come out from Carolina to California to remove
and re-install the tire for me? How much does that cost :) ?
I don't care what they sell for on eBay or Craigslist, I wanted to know what price
you charge.
Bill Berle
--------------------------------------------
On Sun, 3/13/16, Carolina Flyer wrote:
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Sunday, March 13, 2016, 12:08 AM
"Carolina Flyer"
Bill these tires are 21" in diameter. No inter-tubes
required, I install the tires on the wheels, so you do not
need to worry about that, no screws required. Do not
own black max but I am a authorized dealer for them and have
been for many years. I purchased my brakes from black max,
but the wheels I have a company that custom makes them
just for me.The wheels are made to my
specification. And the tires I buy wholesale from the
company that imports them into this country. So I don't have
to go out and buy them retail and mark them up you can find
them on eBay but you won't beat my price... Anyone is
interested I can be reached at 864-427-0101
--------
Kolb Firestar II
503 C-Box / RK400
Soon to have a
Rotax 670 DCDI
with a C-Box and
RK 400 Clutch
Challenger II
503 Tall Drive
Location : Buffalo South Carolina
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| Subject: | Re: Tires for your Firestar |
| From: | "Carolina Flyer" <joe.a.lawson(at)gmail.com> |
Bill ....Will you do me a favor I put the price on there I don't know why you're
not able to see it. And I don't plan I come to California for any reason .
--------
Kolb Firestar II
503 C-Box / RK400
Soon to have a
Rotax 670 DCDI
with a C-Box and
RK 400 Clutch
Challenger II
503 Tall Drive
Location : Buffalo South Carolina
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| Subject: | Re: Tires for your Firestar |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
Carolina Flyer wrote-
"Bill ....Will you do me a favor I put the price on there I don't know why
you're not able to see it. "
I was curious to see if you would give us the price this time, and actually
it was not on either the individual email, or the digest version either.
However when I went on the Matronics site, it was there. I cannot explain
why, but in two of three ways that messages can be viewed it wasn't. there.
One of the reasons that I am receiving individual email and the Digest
versions is that sometimes I didn't get all the emails written. For
instance the email by Berle was not on either the digest or the individual.
The first I saw of the question was when it was replied to.
Larry
On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 11:55 AM, Carolina Flyer
wrote:
>
> Bill ....Will you do me a favor I put the price on there I don't know why
> you're not able to see it. And I don't plan I come to California for any
> reason .
>
> --------
> Kolb Firestar II
> 503 C-Box / RK400
> Soon to have a
> Rotax 670 DCDI
> with a C-Box and
> RK 400 Clutch
>
> Challenger II
> 503 Tall Drive
>
> Location : Buffalo South Carolina
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=453713#453713
>
>
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| From: | Herb <Herbgh(at)nctc.com> |
Do you have the std Kolb motor mounts? Herb
On 03/13/2016 12:55 PM, Carolina Flyer wrote:
>
> Bill ....Will you do me a favor I put the price on there I don't know why you're
not able to see it. And I don't plan I come to California for any reason
.
>
> --------
> Kolb Firestar II
> 503 C-Box / RK400
> Soon to have a
> Rotax 670 DCDI
> with a C-Box and
> RK 400 Clutch
>
> Challenger II
> 503 Tall Drive
>
> Location : Buffalo South Carolina
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=453713#453713
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tires for your Firestar |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
Carolina Flyer wrote-
"Bill ....Will you do me a favor I put the price on there I don't know why
you're not able to see it. "
I was curious to see if you would give us the price this time, and actually
it was not on either the individual email, or the digest version either.
However when I went on the Matronics site, it was there. I cannot explain
why, but in two of three ways that messages can be viewed it wasn't. there.
One of the reasons that I am receiving individual email and the Digest
versions is that sometimes I didn't get all the emails written. For
instance the email by Berle was not on either the digest or the individual.
The first I saw of the question was when it was replied to.
Larry
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=453713#453713
>
>
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Tires for your Firestar |
What are the specs on axles and wheel bearings?
What are the specs on the tires?
What is the difficulty in mounting and dismounting tires
from wheels?
Is a field repair doable under adverse conditions?
Thanks in advance,
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Carolina Flyer
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 1:09 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
-->
Bill these tires are 21" in diameter. No inter-tubes
required, I install the tires on the wheels, so you do not
need to worry about that, no screws required. Do not own
black max but I am a authorized dealer for them and have
been for many years. I purchased my brakes from black max,
but the wheels I have a company that custom makes them just
for me. The wheels are made to my specification. And the
tires I buy wholesale from the company that imports them
into this country. So I don't have to go out and buy them
retail and mark them up you can find them on eBay but you
won't beat my price... Anyone is interested I can be reached
at 864-427-0101
--------
Kolb Firestar II
503 C-Box / RK400
Soon to have a
Rotax 670 DCDI
with a C-Box and
RK 400 Clutch
Challenger II
503 Tall Drive
Location : Buffalo South Carolina
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| Subject: | Re: Tires for your Firestar |
| From: | "Carolina Flyer" <joe.a.lawson(at)gmail.com> |
Here is a screen shot of what I posted
--------
Kolb Firestar II
503 C-Box / RK400
Soon to have a
Rotax 670 DCDI
with a C-Box and
RK 400 Clutch
Challenger II
503 Tall Drive
Location : Buffalo South Carolina
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| Subject: | Converting my MK3 to Dual Control |
| From: | "C. White" <chasfwhite(at)gmail.com> |
=8BFor about 20 yrs. I have been looking at my MK 3-912's single cent
er
control and wondering / wishing it was dual control. It's not so much that
I want another control on the passenger side, I just want to be able to
control the plane with my left hand and a stick between my legs and my
right had on the throttle... like most planes.
I looked back in the archives and found a few pros/cons and how it's
difficult for us "big boys 6'2"-240... to crawl in & out with stick in
your way, but nothing about the process or difficulty of the conversion
itself.
I met John H. yrs. ago at Sun'nFun and thought his and a few other planes
were configured that way and have had that project in my mind ever since.
I'm right in the middle of changing the gear legs to spring steel and
adding bigger tires, so maybe it's time to make that control change too.
I sent the Kolb folks a note requesting information on the parts required,
but would appreciate anyone's thoughts on the dual control set-up?
Thanks...
Charles White
Rollins,,Montana
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Converting my MK3 to Dual Control |
Well, I am proud to say my Brother Jim and good friend Seth Mathews,
RIP, designed and built the first set of dual controls for a Kolb MKIII
back in 1991. After 25 years and 3,300+ hours, they still work like
brand new.
I fly from the right seat, so I was able to use the throttle in its
normal MKIII position between the seats. Left hand on the throttle and
right hand on the stick.
I normally do not fly with the left stick installed. This facilitates
loading and unloading passengers.
As I get older it is a little more difficult to get the left foot over
the stick, but I can still do it without too much hassle.
Nothing wrong with the center mounted single stick. The geometry is
just right and has a good control feel. Was a little awkward at first,
but became normal very quickly. Used to fly all day to get to Sun and
Fun in my MKIII with the stick between my legs, then get out and get in
the factory MKIII and fly side stick and arm crossed across my belly to
control throttle. My big problem was reaching up with my left hand to
pull flaps on final.
Good luck with you dual controls.
I landed at Polson, MT, in 2004, on the way to Alaska. Flew right over
Rollins on the way north.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of C. White
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 6:39 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Converting my MK3 to Dual Control
=8BFor about 20 yrs. I have been looking at my MK 3-912's single
center control and wondering / wishing it was dual control. It's not so
much that I want another control on the passenger side, I just want to
be able to control the plane with my left hand and a stick between my
legs and my right had on the throttle... like most planes.
I looked back in the archives and found a few pros/cons and how it's
difficult for us "big boys 6'2"-240... to crawl in & out with stick in
your way, but nothing about the process or difficulty of the conversion
itself.
I met John H. yrs. ago at Sun'nFun and thought his and a few other
planes were configured that way and have had that project in my mind
ever since.
I'm right in the middle of changing the gear legs to spring steel and
adding bigger tires, so maybe it's time to make that control change too.
I sent the Kolb folks a note requesting information on the parts
required, but would appreciate anyone's thoughts on the dual control
set-up?
Thanks...
Charles White
Rollins,,Montana
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Converting my MK3 to Dual Control |
| From: | B Young <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com> |
Instead of dual controls. I modified my center control. I made a sleeve
that slides over the top of the stick, Then welded a tube to the top of
the sleeve at a 90 deg pointing to the left. drilled and secured it on
the stick with a couple screws.
I can fly left or right handed, while flying left handed I can reach
both throttle and flaps with right hand. With the right hand on the stick
it is like a conventional mkiii
Boyd Young
Mkiii
Utah
On Mar 13, 2016 5:43 PM, "C. White" wrote:
> =8BFor about 20 yrs. I have been looking at my MK 3-912's single ce
nter
> control and wondering / wishing it was dual control. It's not so much tha
t
> I want another control on the passenger side, I just want to be able to
> control the plane with my left hand and a stick between my legs and my
> right had on the throttle... like most planes.
>
> I looked back in the archives and found a few pros/cons and how it's
> difficult for us "big boys 6'2"-240... to crawl in & out with stick in
> your way, but nothing about the process or difficulty of the conversion
> itself.
>
> I met John H. yrs. ago at Sun'nFun and thought his and a few other planes
> were configured that way and have had that project in my mind ever since.
>
> I'm right in the middle of changing the gear legs to spring steel and
> adding bigger tires, so maybe it's time to make that control change too.
>
> I sent the Kolb folks a note requesting information on the parts required
,
> but would appreciate anyone's thoughts on the dual control set-up?
>
> Thanks...
>
> Charles White
> Rollins,,Montana
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: motor mounts |
| From: | "Carolina Flyer" <joe.a.lawson(at)gmail.com> |
Herb, I have them. Do you need 4
--------
Kolb Firestar II
503 C-Box / RK400
Soon to have a
Rotax 670 DCDI
with a C-Box and
RK 400 Clutch
Challenger II
503 Tall Drive
Location : Buffalo South Carolina
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| From: | Bill Berle <victorbravo(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Tires for your Firestar |
"Carolina Flyer" wrote: And I don't plan I come to California
for any reason .
OK Joe, I saw the price on the Matronics website. It is a very good price for a
custom wheel and tire set.
I understand that you aren't happy with the idea of coming to CA to remove the
tires from the wheels when I need to chenge or repair them... so don't you think
you should tell me how I'm supposed to do it myself in the field?
Once again, with 100% sincere respect, for any tire and wheel combination that
I put on an airplane, I will need to know how to service, repair, or replace the
components.
I could be wrong, but I would imagine anyone else on this discussion forum would
want to know that too.
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| Subject: | Re: Tires for your Firestar |
| From: | Rick Neilsen <neilsenrm(at)gmail.com> |
Joe
Do you have tires and tubes for 6" Matco wheels?
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 12:45 AM, Carolina Flyer
wrote:
>
> This is just my opinion but these are the best tires and wheel combination
> for a Firestar. HUGE 21" X 12" X 8" 2-PLY TIRES, 8" Diameter one piece
> Aluminum Wheels. Wheels 7"and 9" wide are in stock now . Custom sizes can
> be made. This is your one-stop source for Tundra/Bush Wheels, Tires, and
> Brake Systems. I have been supplying wheels and tires and brake systems to
> ultralights owners all the way up LSA owners. All the way up to 1500 lbs.
> 5/8" to beefy 3/4" axles. Either hand controls or heel & toe dual master
> cylinder configurations. I have single piston calipers and also dual piston
> calipers available. Whether you need Single items or complete systems we
> can make what you need.
>
> --------
> Kolb Firestar II
> 503 C-Box / RK400
> Soon to have a
> Rotax 670 DCDI
> with a C-Box and
> RK 400 Clutch
>
> Challenger II
> 503 Tall Drive
>
> Location : Buffalo South Carolina
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=453700#453700
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_226.jpeg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_676.jpeg
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tires for your Firestar |
| From: | B Young <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com> |
It seems like a week or so back we discussed breaking a bead with a small
tire tool from harbor freight... And this week how to install tires on
dessors web page. If you offer to send someone a round trip ticket and
lodging fees,,, I'll bet someone would take you up on it...
The information is out there
Boyd Young
On Mar 13, 2016 9:08 PM, "Bill Berle" wrote:
>
> "Carolina Flyer" wrote: And I don't plan I come
> to California for any reason .
>
> OK Joe, I saw the price on the Matronics website. It is a very good price
> for a custom wheel and tire set.
>
> I understand that you aren't happy with the idea of coming to CA to remove
> the tires from the wheels when I need to chenge or repair them... so don't
> you think you should tell me how I'm supposed to do it myself in the field?
>
> Once again, with 100% sincere respect, for any tire and wheel combination
> that I put on an airplane, I will need to know how to service, repair, or
> replace the components.
>
> I could be wrong, but I would imagine anyone else on this discussion forum
> would want to know that too.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tires for your Firestar |
| From: | "Carolina Flyer" <joe.a.lawson(at)gmail.com> |
Bill, I use a cheap harbor freight device for putting the tires on, cost $49.95
I think.
Rick, The only tires that I sell are these that I have pictures of and they fit
on a 8 inch rims
--------
Kolb Firestar II
503 C-Box / RK400
Soon to have a
Rotax 670 DCDI
with a C-Box and
RK 400 Clutch
Challenger II
503 Tall Drive
Location : Buffalo South Carolina
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=453737#453737
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_133.jpeg
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| Subject: | Re: Converting my MK3 to Dual Control |
| From: | Charlie England <ceengland7(at)gmail.com> |
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| Subject: | Re: motor mounts |
| From: | Herb <Herbgh(at)nctc.com> |
Not now...just getting my ducks in a row for my next project... seems
that you had a good price on them? Herb
On 03/13/2016 09:06 PM, Carolina Flyer wrote:
>
> Herb, I have them. Do you need 4
>
> --------
> Kolb Firestar II
> 503 C-Box / RK400
> Soon to have a
> Rotax 670 DCDI
> with a C-Box and
> RK 400 Clutch
>
> Challenger II
> 503 Tall Drive
>
> Location : Buffalo South Carolina
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=453733#453733
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_773.jpeg
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| Subject: | Re: Tires for your Firestar |
| From: | Charlie England <ceengland7(at)gmail.com> |
You could be right, but the only time I've ever seen a mark on an auto
tire is when the tire tech marks it prior to pulling it off the rim to
fix a flat. I will concede that you have about a decade more experience
available, as I'm only 64 (until the end of the week).
I do agree that a/c tires are usually made to higher standards than what
you'd find on a garden trailer (what's often seen on UL's & other
non-certified light a/c. But the fact that the instructions give 2
possible alignments, depending on whether the tube is marked, seems to
say that the tire has a heavy spot, and the tube does also (which may or
may not be the valve stem). The very fact that they are marking the
light spot on the wheel makes it very difficult to accept that it's
'balanced'.
Charlie
On 3/12/2016 9:58 AM, John Hauck wrote:
>
> To the best of my knowledge, there is a reference mark on all auto/truck and
aircraft tires to align the valve stem, whether tube or tubeless. The valve stem,
tube or tubeless, is aligned with the mark on the tire bead. I imagine the
tire is manufactured to compensate for the valve stem and the valve stem hole
in the wheel. What do you think?
>
> john h
> mkIII
> Titus, Alabama
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charlie England
> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 9:48 PM
> To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Tires for your Firestar
>
>
> OK, lets go with your assertion. Why are there explicit instructions on aligning
a stripe on the tube with a red dot on the tire, or aligning a red dot on
the tire with the valve stem if there's no stripe on the tube?
>
> On 3/11/2016 9:36 PM, John Hauck wrote:
>>
>> Yes, aircraft tires are trued and balanced when manufactured. Of course the
tire, tube, and wheel assembly must be fine tuned when mounted, just like an
auto tire that is also trued and balanced when they are manufactured.
>>
>> Off road, golf cart type tires are not trued and balanced when manufactured.
It is obvious when you mount an egg shaped out balance tire on your airplane.
>>
>> john h
>> mkIII
>> Titus, Alabama
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charlie
>> England
>> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 8:59 PM
>> To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Tires for your Firestar
>>
>> -->
>>
>> Just a heads-up; if you think a/c tires are trued & balanced, read
>> this installation guide carefully. :-)
>>
>> http://www.desser.com/content/tire_mounting_info.asp
>>
>> Charlie
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Tires for your Firestar |
| From: | Charlie England <ceengland7(at)gmail.com> |
The tires and wheels do look nice, and are likely a good option if
flying close to home.
However, it seems like you're missing his point. He's talking about real
'bush' flying, away from airports & service facilities. With
conventional 2 piece wheels, you could break them down with simple hand
tools to repair a flat, and a small hand pump to re-inflate. But with
auto-style one piece wheels, it requires specialized (heavy) tools to
break a tire down for repair. Not likely to be in a tool kit you can
carry in a Kolb or other very light a/c.
Charlie
On 3/13/2016 11:19 PM, Carolina Flyer wrote:
>
> Bill, I use a cheap harbor freight device for putting the tires on, cost $49.95
I think.
>
>
> Rick, The only tires that I sell are these that I have pictures of and they fit
on a 8 inch rims
>
> --------
> Kolb Firestar II
> 503 C-Box / RK400
> Soon to have a
> Rotax 670 DCDI
> with a C-Box and
> RK 400 Clutch
>
> Challenger II
> 503 Tall Drive
>
> Location : Buffalo South Carolina
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Tires for your Firestar |
| From: | Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com> |
I have three metal tire irons that I carry with me. Less than 1 lb. for the
set and with a little water as lubricant they get the tire off a one piece
wheel just fine. It's breaking the bead that's the trick and for that I
just use a hammer with one iron to get it started. It's not what I'd use at
home, but we're talking stranded in the outback with the vultures circling.
:-}
Rick Girard
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 9:16 AM, Charlie England
wrote:
>
> The tires and wheels do look nice, and are likely a good option if flying
> close to home.
>
> However, it seems like you're missing his point. He's talking about real
> 'bush' flying, away from airports & service facilities. With conventional
2
> piece wheels, you could break them down with simple hand tools to repair
a
> flat, and a small hand pump to re-inflate. But with auto-style one piece
> wheels, it requires specialized (heavy) tools to break a tire down for
> repair. Not likely to be in a tool kit you can carry in a Kolb or other
> very light a/c.
>
> Charlie
>
> On 3/13/2016 11:19 PM, Carolina Flyer wrote:
>
m
>> >
>>
>> Bill, I use a cheap harbor freight device for putting the tires on, cos
t
>> $49.95 I think.
>>
>>
>> Rick, The only tires that I sell are these that I have pictures of and
>> they fit on a 8 inch rims
>>
>> --------
>> Kolb Firestar II
>> 503 C-Box / RK400
>> Soon to have a
>> Rotax 670 DCDI
>> with a C-Box and
>> RK 400 Clutch
>>
>> Challenger II
>> 503 Tall Drive
>>
>> Location : Buffalo South Carolina
>>
>>
>
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| From: | Rick Neilsen <neilsenrm(at)gmail.com> |
Amazon has Carlyle 800-6 4ply tires straight rib for $50, I have these on
my plane now. They are showing wear and need replacement. I would like
taller tires but haven't decided yet and $100 for the Carlyle vs $220 for
the 21" tall 800-6 tires is a consideration.
I'm going to talk to the Matco guys at Sun N Fun about braking power.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 12:34 AM, B Young wrote:
> Rick... Dessors.com had 800 -6 Carlyle turf tires for a 6 inch rim for
> 80,,, the 21-800-6 for 110. Or the same tire with the tread ground off
> for 170. Also 800-6 aircraft tires from 160 to somewhere north of 200
> they all fit 6inch rims
>
> Boyd
>
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| From: | Bill Berle <victorbravo(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Tires for your Firestar |
Yes, I want to make it clear that I'm not trying to hassle or trash-talk anyone
or their product. I do prefer not having to wrestle with someone just to get
an answer to my question, but regardless of the effort it takes to get that answer
my motives and agendas are positive and not negative.
My situation is that I want to fly extreme-STOL up in the mountains and desert.
I've been scouting several locations in my 172, and believe it or not most of
them are actually within 50 or 60 miles of the "big city" limits. So it's not
like I'm going out Grizzly bear bow hunting in the Aleutian Islands or anything...
but it's still way too far for me to just "walk into town" with a tire and
wheel in my hands.
I will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a tire pump. Even on a certified172
I can take the wheel off the airplane with a medium Crescent wrench,
take the wheel apart with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube or patch
a tire, and get it back together to fly back home.
Bill Berle
--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 3/14/16, Richard Girard wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: "kolb-list(at)matronics.com"
Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 9:29 AM
I have three metal
tire irons that I carry with me. Less than 1 lb. for the set
and with a little water as lubricant they get the tire off a
one piece wheel just fine. It's breaking the bead
that's the trick and for that I just use a hammer with
one iron to get it started. It's not what I'd use at
home, but we're talking stranded in the outback with the
vultures circling. :-}
Rick Girard
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
at 9:16 AM, Charlie England
wrote:
Charlie England
The tires and wheels do look nice, and are likely a good
option if flying close to home.
However, it seems like you're missing his point.
He's talking about real 'bush' flying, away from
airports & service facilities. With conventional 2 piece
wheels, you could break them down with simple hand tools to
repair a flat, and a small hand pump to re-inflate. But with
auto-style one piece wheels, it requires specialized (heavy)
tools to break a tire down for repair. Not likely to be in a
tool kit you can carry in a Kolb or other very light
a/c.
Charlie
On 3/13/2016 11:19 PM, Carolina Flyer wrote:
Flyer"
Bill, I use a cheap harbor freight device for putting the
tires on, cost $49.95 I think.
Rick, The only tires that I sell are these that I have
pictures of and they fit on a 8 inch rims
--------
Kolb Firestar II
503 C-Box / RK400
Soon to have a
Rotax 670 DCDI
with a C-Box and
RK 400 Clutch
Challenger II
503 Tall Drive
Location : Buffalo South Carolina
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| Subject: | Re: Tires for your Firestar |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
"
I will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a tire pump. Even on
a certified172 I can take the wheel off the airplane with a medium Crescent
wrench, take the wheel apart with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner
tube or patch a tire, and get it back together to fly back home."
I just carry a can of "spare tire" wrapped in bubble wrap in the back of my
plane.
Larry
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Bill Berle
wrote:
>
> Yes, I want to make it clear that I'm not trying to hassle or trash-talk
> anyone or their product. I do prefer not having to wrestle with someone
> just to get an answer to my question, but regardless of the effort it tak
es
> to get that answer my motives and agendas are positive and not negative.
>
> My situation is that I want to fly extreme-STOL up in the mountains and
> desert. I've been scouting several locations in my 172, and believe it or
> not most of them are actually within 50 or 60 miles of the "big city"
> limits. So it's not like I'm going out Grizzly bear bow hunting in the
> Aleutian Islands or anything... but it's still way too far for me to just
> "walk into town" with a tire and wheel in my hands.
>
> I will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a tire pump. Even o
n
> a certified172 I can take the wheel off the airplane with a medium Cresce
nt
> wrench, take the wheel apart with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner
> tube or patch a tire, and get it back together to fly back home.
>
>
> Bill Berle
> --------------------------------------------
> On Mon, 3/14/16, Richard Girard wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
> To: "kolb-list(at)matronics.com"
> Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 9:29 AM
>
> I have three metal
> tire irons that I carry with me. Less than 1 lb. for the set
> and with a little water as lubricant they get the tire off a
> one piece wheel just fine. It's breaking the bead
> that's the trick and for that I just use a hammer with
> one iron to get it started. It's not what I'd use at
> home, but we're talking stranded in the outback with the
> vultures circling. :-}
> Rick Girard
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
> at 9:16 AM, Charlie England
> wrote:
> Charlie England
>
>
> The tires and wheels do look nice, and are likely a good
> option if flying close to home.
>
>
> However, it seems like you're missing his point.
> He's talking about real 'bush' flying, away from
> airports & service facilities. With conventional 2 piece
> wheels, you could break them down with simple hand tools to
> repair a flat, and a small hand pump to re-inflate. But with
> auto-style one piece wheels, it requires specialized (heavy)
> tools to break a tire down for repair. Not likely to be in a
> tool kit you can carry in a Kolb or other very light
> a/c.
>
>
> Charlie
>
>
> On 3/13/2016 11:19 PM, Carolina Flyer wrote:
>
>
> Flyer"
>
>
> Bill, I use a cheap harbor freight device for putting the
> tires on, cost $49.95 I think.
>
>
> Rick, The only tires that I sell are these that I have
> pictures of and they fit on a 8 inch rims
>
>
> --------
>
> Kolb Firestar II
>
> 503 C-Box / RK400
>
> Soon to have a
>
> Rotax 670 DCDI
>
> with a C-Box and
>
> RK 400 Clutch
>
>
> Challenger II
>
> 503 Tall Drive
>
>
> Location : Buffalo South Carolina
>
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| From: | B Young <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com> |
I stopped by matco last week, they have a backing plate that that you
can mount a brake caliper on both front and back. I've got access to
extra calipers so only picked up the backing plate. usually it comes as
a kit with two plates and two calipers
Boyd
On Mar 14, 2016 10:37 AM, "Rick Neilsen" wrote:
> Amazon has Carlyle 800-6 4ply tires straight rib for $50, I have these on
> my plane now. They are showing wear and need replacement. I would like
> taller tires but haven't decided yet and $100 for the Carlyle vs $220 for
> the 21" tall 800-6 tires is a consideration.
>
> I'm going to talk to the Matco guys at Sun N Fun about braking power.
>
> Rick Neilsen
> Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
>
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 12:34 AM, B Young
> wrote:
>
>> Rick... Dessors.com had 800 -6 Carlyle turf tires for a 6 inch rim for
>> 80,,, the 21-800-6 for 110. Or the same tire with the tread ground off
>> for 170. Also 800-6 aircraft tires from 160 to somewhere north of 200
>> they all fit 6inch rims
>>
>> Boyd
>>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | B Young <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com> |
with the bigger tires you will need the extra brakes
On Mar 14, 2016 10:37 AM, "Rick Neilsen" wrote:
> Amazon has Carlyle 800-6 4ply tires straight rib for $50, I have these on
> my plane now. They are showing wear and need replacement. I would like
> taller tires but haven't decided yet and $100 for the Carlyle vs $220 for
> the 21" tall 800-6 tires is a consideration.
>
> I'm going to talk to the Matco guys at Sun N Fun about braking power.
>
> Rick Neilsen
> Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
>
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 12:34 AM, B Young
> wrote:
>
>> Rick... Dessors.com had 800 -6 Carlyle turf tires for a 6 inch rim for
>> 80,,, the 21-800-6 for 110. Or the same tire with the tread ground off
>> for 170. Also 800-6 aircraft tires from 160 to somewhere north of 200
>> they all fit 6inch rims
>>
>> Boyd
>>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Bill Berle <victorbravo(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Tires for your Firestar |
Here's a potential game-changer solution right here...
http://www.goldspeedproducts.com/shop/tire-blocks/
These are foam inserts that allow you to run lower pressure and even run safely
when punctured flat.
I'll bet that these foam blocks weigh less than the three piece tire iron set that
was mentioned earlier, or the can of flat tire repair goop :)
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 3/14/16, Larry Cottrell wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: "kolb-list(at)matronics.com"
Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 10:37 AM
"
I
will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a tire
pump. Even on a certified172 I can take the wheel off the
airplane with a medium Crescent wrench, take the wheel apart
with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube or patch a
tire, and get it back together to fly back
home."
I just
carry a can of "spare tire" wrapped in bubble wrap
in the back of my plane.
Larry
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
at 10:56 AM, Bill Berle
wrote:
Bill Berle
Yes, I want to make it clear that I'm not trying to
hassle or trash-talk anyone or their product. I do prefer
not having to wrestle with someone just to get an answer to
my question, but regardless of the effort it takes to get
that answer my motives and agendas are positive and not
negative.
My situation is that I want to fly extreme-STOL up in the
mountains and desert. I've been scouting several
locations in my 172, and believe it or not most of them are
actually within 50 or 60 miles of the "big city"
limits. So it's not like I'm going out Grizzly bear
bow hunting in the Aleutian Islands or anything... but
it's still way too far for me to just "walk into
town" with a tire and wheel in my hands.
I will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a tire
pump. Even on a certified172 I can take the wheel off the
airplane with a medium Crescent wrench, take the wheel apart
with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube or patch a
tire, and get it back together to fly back home.
Bill Berle
--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 3/14/16, Richard Girard
wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: "kolb-list(at)matronics.com"
Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 9:29 AM
I have three metal
tire irons that I carry with me. Less than 1 lb. for the
set
and with a little water as lubricant they get the tire off
a
one piece wheel just fine. It's breaking the bead
that's the trick and for that I just use a hammer
with
one iron to get it started. It's not what I'd use
at
home, but we're talking stranded in the outback with
the
vultures circling. :-}
Rick Girard
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
at 9:16 AM, Charlie England
wrote:
Charlie England
The tires and wheels do look nice, and are likely a good
option if flying close to home.
However, it seems like you're missing his point.
He's talking about real 'bush' flying, away
from
airports & service facilities. With conventional 2
piece
wheels, you could break them down with simple hand tools
to
repair a flat, and a small hand pump to re-inflate. But
with
auto-style one piece wheels, it requires specialized
(heavy)
tools to break a tire down for repair. Not likely to be in
a
tool kit you can carry in a Kolb or other very light
a/c.
Charlie
On 3/13/2016 11:19 PM, Carolina Flyer wrote:
Flyer"
Bill, I use a cheap harbor freight device for putting
the
tires on, cost $49.95 I think.
Rick, The only tires that I sell are these that I have
pictures of and they fit on a 8 inch rims
--------
Kolb Firestar II
503 C-Box / RK400
Soon to have a
Rotax 670 DCDI
with a C-Box and
RK 400 Clutch
Challenger II
503 Tall Drive
Location : Buffalo South Carolina
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
John Williamson had dual calipers on his Kolbra.
Another caliper on my MKIII would be nice to have. I can not quite hold
my aircraft at wide open throttle.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of B Young
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb tires
with the bigger tires you will need the extra brakes
On Mar 14, 2016 10:37 AM, "Rick Neilsen" wrote:
Amazon has Carlyle 800-6 4ply tires straight rib for $50, I have these
on my plane now. They are showing wear and need replacement. I would
like taller tires but haven't decided yet and $100 for the Carlyle vs
$220 for the 21" tall 800-6 tires is a consideration.
I'm going to talk to the Matco guys at Sun N Fun about braking power.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 12:34 AM, B Young
wrote:
Rick... Dessors.com had 800 -6 Carlyle turf tires for a 6 inch rim
for 80,,, the 21-800-6 for 110. Or the same tire with the tread ground
off for 170. Also 800-6 aircraft tires from 160 to somewhere north of
200 they all fit 6inch rims
Boyd
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Tires for your Firestar |
You can go down to the local ag supplier or tire dealer that does ag tires and
get your tires filled with foam. No more flats and no more suspension help.
4-6 psi, even 8-10 psi is a big help on rough/soft fields/strips. Believe that
foam would make the tire rigid, or at least that is what I have read on some
of the antique tractor forums. A big foot print makes a lot of difference when
pulling.
I use the best heavy duty inner tube I can find for the MKIII. Now I discover
Desser has a double heavy duty self sealing tube:
"CUSTOMERS asked for an AIRCRAFT SPECIFICATION TUBE for this application. Twice
as thick as the Light Sport Rated tube and made by our aircraft tube manufacturer.
"LEAKGUARD" Butyl Inner Tubes Are Blended With A Proprietary Leak Resistant Compound
For Less Maintenance. Aero Classic provides more aircraft tubes to the US
Military than any other manufacturer. Aero Classic tubes are FULL SIZE, not
stretch to fit."
I'll give these a try next time I change out my tubes.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Berle
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
Here's a potential game-changer solution right here...
http://www.goldspeedproducts.com/shop/tire-blocks/
These are foam inserts that allow you to run lower pressure and even run safely
when punctured flat.
I'll bet that these foam blocks weigh less than the three piece tire iron set that
was mentioned earlier, or the can of flat tire repair goop :)
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 3/14/16, Larry Cottrell wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: "kolb-list(at)matronics.com"
Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 10:37 AM
"
I
will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a tire pump. Even on a certified172
I can take the wheel off the airplane with a medium Crescent wrench,
take the wheel apart with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube or patch
a tire, and get it back together to fly back home."
I just
carry a can of "spare tire" wrapped in bubble wrap in the back of my plane.
Larry
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
at 10:56 AM, Bill Berle
wrote:
Bill Berle
Yes, I want to make it clear that I'm not trying to hassle or trash-talk anyone
or their product. I do prefer not having to wrestle with someone just to get
an answer to my question, but regardless of the effort it takes to get that
answer my motives and agendas are positive and not negative.
My situation is that I want to fly extreme-STOL up in the mountains and desert.
I've been scouting several locations in my 172, and believe it or not most
of them are actually within 50 or 60 miles of the "big city"
limits. So it's not like I'm going out Grizzly bear bow hunting in the Aleutian
Islands or anything... but it's still way too far for me to just "walk into
town" with a tire and wheel in my hands.
I will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a tire pump. Even on a
certified172 I can take the wheel off the airplane with a medium Crescent wrench,
take the wheel apart with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube or
patch a tire, and get it back together to fly back home.
Bill Berle
--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 3/14/16, Richard Girard
wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: "kolb-list(at)matronics.com"
Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 9:29 AM
I have three metal
tire irons that I carry with me. Less than 1 lb. for the set
and with a little water as lubricant they get the tire off a
one piece wheel just fine. It's breaking the bead
that's the trick and for that I just use a hammer with
one iron to get it started. It's not what I'd use at
home, but we're talking stranded in the outback with the
vultures circling. :-}
Rick Girard
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
at 9:16 AM, Charlie England
wrote:
Charlie England
The tires and wheels do look nice, and are likely a good
option if flying close to home.
However, it seems like you're missing his point.
He's talking about real 'bush' flying, away from
airports & service facilities. With conventional 2 piece
wheels, you could break them down with simple hand tools to
repair a flat, and a small hand pump to re-inflate. But with
auto-style one piece wheels, it requires specialized
(heavy)
tools to break a tire down for repair. Not likely to be in a
tool kit you can carry in a Kolb or other very light
a/c.
Charlie
On 3/13/2016 11:19 PM, Carolina Flyer wrote:
Flyer"
Bill, I use a cheap harbor freight device for putting the
tires on, cost $49.95 I think.
Rick, The only tires that I sell are these that I have
pictures of and they fit on a 8 inch rims
--------
Kolb Firestar II
503 C-Box / RK400
Soon to have a
Rotax 670 DCDI
with a C-Box and
RK 400 Clutch
Challenger II
503 Tall Drive
Location : Buffalo South Carolina
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| From: | "Stuart Harner" <stuart(at)harnerfarm.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Tires for your Firestar |
John,
You are right about foaming a tire. When I worked for the county road crew we would
foam tires on the packer that went flat.
Foaming is a permanent fix for a tire, it will never go flat again. It also is
very, very heavy. If I foamed the tires on the Firefly I am not sure I could
lift off with them. :)
Also correct about making the tire solid. No give what so ever. Would be like landing
with skis on pavement. :(
A can of "fix-a-flat" is probably a fairly good way to go. If you get a small puncture
the sealant will probably seal it and there should be enough "air" to
fill the small tire of a Kolb. A slice or rip in the tire or tube can't be fixed
with sealant so you are probably walking.
The LEAKGUARD is an interesting product and will probably be a good return for
the small amount of increased weight. Of course maybe we could fill our tires
with helium to counteract the added weight. :)
I wonder how many more Kolb's would qualify as ultralight if we put bags of helium
between the ribs? Bryan?
Stuart
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hauck
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 2:38 PM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
You can go down to the local ag supplier or tire dealer that does ag tires and
get your tires filled with foam. No more flats and no more suspension help.
4-6 psi, even 8-10 psi is a big help on rough/soft fields/strips. Believe that
foam would make the tire rigid, or at least that is what I have read on some
of the antique tractor forums. A big foot print makes a lot of difference when
pulling.
I use the best heavy duty inner tube I can find for the MKIII. Now I discover
Desser has a double heavy duty self sealing tube:
"CUSTOMERS asked for an AIRCRAFT SPECIFICATION TUBE for this application. Twice
as thick as the Light Sport Rated tube and made by our aircraft tube manufacturer.
"LEAKGUARD" Butyl Inner Tubes Are Blended With A Proprietary Leak Resistant Compound
For Less Maintenance. Aero Classic provides more aircraft tubes to the US
Military than any other manufacturer. Aero Classic tubes are FULL SIZE, not
stretch to fit."
I'll give these a try next time I change out my tubes.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Berle
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
Here's a potential game-changer solution right here...
http://www.goldspeedproducts.com/shop/tire-blocks/
These are foam inserts that allow you to run lower pressure and even run safely
when punctured flat.
I'll bet that these foam blocks weigh less than the three piece tire iron set that
was mentioned earlier, or the can of flat tire repair goop :)
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 3/14/16, Larry Cottrell wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: "kolb-list(at)matronics.com"
Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 10:37 AM
"
I
will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a tire pump. Even on a certified172
I can take the wheel off the airplane with a medium Crescent wrench,
take the wheel apart with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube or patch
a tire, and get it back together to fly back home."
I just
carry a can of "spare tire" wrapped in bubble wrap in the back of my plane.
Larry
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
at 10:56 AM, Bill Berle
wrote:
Bill Berle
Yes, I want to make it clear that I'm not trying to hassle or trash-talk anyone
or their product. I do prefer not having to wrestle with someone just to get
an answer to my question, but regardless of the effort it takes to get that
answer my motives and agendas are positive and not negative.
My situation is that I want to fly extreme-STOL up in the mountains and desert.
I've been scouting several locations in my 172, and believe it or not most
of them are actually within 50 or 60 miles of the "big city"
limits. So it's not like I'm going out Grizzly bear bow hunting in the Aleutian
Islands or anything... but it's still way too far for me to just "walk into
town" with a tire and wheel in my hands.
I will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a tire pump. Even on a
certified172 I can take the wheel off the airplane with a medium Crescent wrench,
take the wheel apart with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube or
patch a tire, and get it back together to fly back home.
Bill Berle
--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 3/14/16, Richard Girard
wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: "kolb-list(at)matronics.com"
Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 9:29 AM
I have three metal
tire irons that I carry with me. Less than 1 lb. for the set
and with a little water as lubricant they get the tire off a
one piece wheel just fine. It's breaking the bead
that's the trick and for that I just use a hammer with
one iron to get it started. It's not what I'd use at
home, but we're talking stranded in the outback with the
vultures circling. :-}
Rick Girard
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
at 9:16 AM, Charlie England
wrote:
Charlie England
The tires and wheels do look nice, and are likely a good
option if flying close to home.
However, it seems like you're missing his point.
He's talking about real 'bush' flying, away from
airports & service facilities. With conventional 2 piece
wheels, you could break them down with simple hand tools to
repair a flat, and a small hand pump to re-inflate. But with
auto-style one piece wheels, it requires specialized
(heavy)
tools to break a tire down for repair. Not likely to be in a
tool kit you can carry in a Kolb or other very light
a/c.
Charlie
On 3/13/2016 11:19 PM, Carolina Flyer wrote:
Flyer"
Bill, I use a cheap harbor freight device for putting the
tires on, cost $49.95 I think.
Rick, The only tires that I sell are these that I have
pictures of and they fit on a 8 inch rims
--------
Kolb Firestar II
503 C-Box / RK400
Soon to have a
Rotax 670 DCDI
with a C-Box and
RK 400 Clutch
Challenger II
503 Tall Drive
Location : Buffalo South Carolina
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| From: | Bill Berle <victorbravo(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Tires for your Firestar |
The foam blocks that I linked in my post looked like they had some give to them,
not rigid. They had a compressor tool that squeezes the foam blocks for installation....
I am betting that they use a flexible foam.
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 3/14/16, Stuart Harner wrote:
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 12:57 PM
"Stuart Harner"
John,
You are right about foaming a tire. When I worked for the
county road crew we would foam tires on the packer that went
flat.
Foaming is a permanent fix for a tire, it will never go flat
again. It also is very, very heavy. If I foamed
the tires on the Firefly I am not sure I could lift off with
them. :)
Also correct about making the tire solid. No give what so
ever. Would be like landing with skis on pavement. :(
A can of "fix-a-flat" is probably a fairly good way to go.
If you get a small puncture the sealant will probably seal
it and there should be enough "air" to fill the small tire
of a Kolb. A slice or rip in the tire or tube can't be fixed
with sealant so you are probably walking.
The LEAKGUARD is an interesting product and will probably be
a good return for the small amount of increased
weight. Of course maybe we could fill our tires with
helium to counteract the added weight. :)
I wonder how many more Kolb's would qualify as ultralight if
we put bags of helium between the ribs? Bryan?
Stuart
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com]
On Behalf Of John Hauck
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 2:38 PM
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
You can go down to the local ag supplier or tire dealer that
does ag tires and get your tires filled with foam. No
more flats and no more suspension help. 4-6 psi, even
8-10 psi is a big help on rough/soft fields/strips.
Believe that foam would make the tire rigid, or at least
that is what I have read on some of the antique tractor
forums. A big foot print makes a lot of difference
when pulling.
I use the best heavy duty inner tube I can find for the
MKIII. Now I discover Desser has a double heavy duty
self sealing tube:
"CUSTOMERS asked for an AIRCRAFT SPECIFICATION TUBE for this
application. Twice as thick as the Light Sport Rated
tube and made by our aircraft tube manufacturer.
"LEAKGUARD" Butyl Inner Tubes Are Blended With A
Proprietary Leak Resistant Compound For Less Maintenance.
Aero Classic provides more aircraft tubes to the US Military
than any other manufacturer. Aero Classic tubes are FULL
SIZE, not stretch to fit."
I'll give these a try next time I change out my tubes.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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On Behalf Of Bill Berle
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 1:09 PM
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
Here's a potential game-changer solution right here...
http://www.goldspeedproducts.com/shop/tire-blocks/
These are foam inserts that allow you to run lower pressure
and even run safely when punctured flat.
I'll bet that these foam blocks weigh less than the three
piece tire iron set that was mentioned earlier, or the can
of flat tire repair goop :)
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance
upgrade for light aircraft www.grantstar.net
- winning proposals for
non-profit and for-profit entities
--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 3/14/16, Larry Cottrell
wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: "kolb-list(at)matronics.com"
Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 10:37 AM
"
I
will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a
tire pump. Even on a certified172 I can take the wheel
off the airplane with a medium Crescent wrench, take
the wheel apart with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an
inner tube or patch a tire, and get it back together
to fly back home."
I just
carry a can of "spare tire" wrapped in bubble wrap in
the back of my plane.
Larry
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
at 10:56 AM, Bill Berle
wrote:
Bill Berle
Yes, I want to make it clear that I'm not trying to
hassle or trash-talk anyone or their product. I do
prefer not having to wrestle with someone just to get
an answer to my question, but regardless of the effort
it takes to get that answer my motives and agendas are
positive and not negative.
My situation is that I want to fly extreme-STOL up in
the mountains and desert. I've been scouting
several locations in my 172, and believe it or not
most of them are actually within 50 or 60 miles of the
"big city"
limits. So it's not like I'm going out Grizzly bear
bow hunting in the Aleutian Islands or anything... but
it's still way too far for me to just "walk into town"
with a tire and wheel in my hands.
I will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a
tire pump. Even on a certified172 I can take the wheel
off the airplane with a medium Crescent wrench, take
the wheel apart with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an
inner tube or patch a tire, and get it back together
to fly back home.
Bill Berle
--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 3/14/16, Richard Girard
wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: "kolb-list(at)matronics.com"
Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 9:29 AM
I have three metal
tire irons that I carry with me. Less than 1 lb. for
the set
and with a little water as lubricant they get the
tire off a
one piece wheel just fine. It's breaking the bead
that's the trick and for that I just use a
hammer with
one iron to get it started. It's not what I'd
use at
home, but we're talking stranded in the outback
with the
vultures circling. :-}
Rick Girard
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
at 9:16 AM, Charlie England
wrote:
Charlie England
The tires and wheels do look nice, and are likely a
good
option if flying close to home.
However, it seems like you're missing his point.
He's talking about real 'bush' flying, away
from
airports & service facilities. With conventional
2 piece
wheels, you could break them down with simple hand
tools to
repair a flat, and a small hand pump to re-inflate.
But with
auto-style one piece wheels, it requires specialized
(heavy)
tools to break a tire down for repair. Not likely to
be in a
tool kit you can carry in a Kolb or other very light
a/c.
Charlie
On 3/13/2016 11:19 PM, Carolina Flyer wrote:
Flyer"
Bill, I use a cheap harbor freight device for
putting the
tires on, cost $49.95 I think.
Rick, The only tires that I sell are these that I
have
pictures of and they fit on a 8 inch rims
--------
Kolb Firestar II
503 C-Box / RK400
Soon to have a
Rotax 670 DCDI
with a C-Box and
RK 400 Clutch
Challenger II
503 Tall Drive
Location : Buffalo South Carolina
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| From: | "Rex Rodebush" <jrrodebush(at)gmail.com> |
I have 8.00-6 tires and one Matco caliper was not enough. I added an additional
newer Matco caliper on the existing wheels and now I can lock a wheel to make
a sharp turn and also hold tight at run up. See pictures.
Rex
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
Rex/Kolbers:
I like that. Much beefier looking caliper.
What is the mechanical advantage of your brake pedals?
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rex Rodebush
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 4:22 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb tires
I have 8.00-6 tires and one Matco caliper was not enough. I added an
additional newer Matco caliper on the existing wheels and now I can lock a
wheel to make a sharp turn and also hold tight at run up. See pictures.
Rex
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Tires for your Firestar |
I think you are right. I found their Facebook page. Looked at a few video clips.
Seemed to be working out on quads and SXSs.
May have something there. Give'em a try. Let us know how they work out.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Berle
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 4:14 PM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
The foam blocks that I linked in my post looked like they had some give to them,
not rigid. They had a compressor tool that squeezes the foam blocks for installation....
I am betting that they use a flexible foam.
Bill Berle
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On Mon, 3/14/16, Stuart Harner wrote:
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 12:57 PM
"Stuart Harner"
John,
You are right about foaming a tire. When I worked for the county road crew we
would foam tires on the packer that went flat.
Foaming is a permanent fix for a tire, it will never go flat again. It also
is very, very heavy. If I foamed the tires on the Firefly I am not sure I could
lift off with them. :)
Also correct about making the tire solid. No give what so ever. Would be like
landing with skis on pavement. :(
A can of "fix-a-flat" is probably a fairly good way to go.
If you get a small puncture the sealant will probably seal it and there should
be enough "air" to fill the small tire of a Kolb. A slice or rip in the tire
or tube can't be fixed with sealant so you are probably walking.
The LEAKGUARD is an interesting product and will probably be a good return for
the small amount of increased weight. Of course maybe we could fill our tires
with helium to counteract the added weight. :)
I wonder how many more Kolb's would qualify as ultralight if we put bags of helium
between the ribs? Bryan?
Stuart
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On Behalf Of John Hauck
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 2:38 PM
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
You can go down to the local ag supplier or tire dealer that does ag tires and
get your tires filled with foam. No more flats and no more suspension help.
4-6 psi, even
8-10 psi is a big help on rough/soft fields/strips. Believe that foam would make
the tire rigid, or at least that is what I have read on some of the antique
tractor forums. A big foot print makes a lot of difference when pulling.
I use the best heavy duty inner tube I can find for the MKIII. Now I discover
Desser has a double heavy duty self sealing tube:
"CUSTOMERS asked for an AIRCRAFT SPECIFICATION TUBE for this application. Twice
as thick as the Light Sport Rated tube and made by our aircraft tube manufacturer.
"LEAKGUARD" Butyl Inner Tubes Are Blended With A Proprietary Leak Resistant Compound
For Less Maintenance.
Aero Classic provides more aircraft tubes to the US Military than any other manufacturer.
Aero Classic tubes are FULL SIZE, not stretch to fit."
I'll give these a try next time I change out my tubes.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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On Behalf Of Bill Berle
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 1:09 PM
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
Here's a potential game-changer solution right here...
http://www.goldspeedproducts.com/shop/tire-blocks/
These are foam inserts that allow you to run lower pressure and even run safely
when punctured flat.
I'll bet that these foam blocks weigh less than the three piece tire iron set
that was mentioned earlier, or the can of flat tire repair goop :)
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft www.grantstar.net
- winning proposals for
non-profit and for-profit entities
--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 3/14/16, Larry Cottrell
wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: "kolb-list(at)matronics.com"
Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 10:37 AM
"
I
will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a tire pump. Even on a
certified172 I can take the wheel off the airplane with a medium Crescent wrench,
take the wheel apart with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube
or patch a tire, and get it back together to fly back home."
I just
carry a can of "spare tire" wrapped in bubble wrap in the back of my plane.
Larry
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
at 10:56 AM, Bill Berle
wrote:
Bill Berle
Yes, I want to make it clear that I'm not trying to hassle or trash-talk anyone
or their product. I do prefer not having to wrestle with someone just to
get an answer to my question, but regardless of the effort it takes to get
that answer my motives and agendas are positive and not negative.
My situation is that I want to fly extreme-STOL up in the mountains and desert.
I've been scouting several locations in my 172, and believe it or not
most of them are actually within 50 or 60 miles of the "big city"
limits. So it's not like I'm going out Grizzly bear bow hunting in the Aleutian
Islands or anything... but it's still way too far for me to just "walk into
town"
with a tire and wheel in my hands.
I will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a tire pump. Even on
a certified172 I can take the wheel off the airplane with a medium Crescent
wrench, take the wheel apart with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube
or patch a tire, and get it back together to fly back home.
Bill Berle
--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 3/14/16, Richard Girard
wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: "kolb-list(at)matronics.com"
Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 9:29 AM
I have three metal
tire irons that I carry with me. Less than 1 lb. for the set
and with a little water as lubricant they get the tire off a
one piece wheel just fine. It's breaking the bead
that's the trick and for that I just use a hammer with
one iron to get it started. It's not what I'd use at
home, but we're talking stranded in the outback with the
vultures circling. :-}
Rick Girard
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
at 9:16 AM, Charlie England
wrote:
Charlie England
The tires and wheels do look nice, and are likely a good
option if flying close to home.
However, it seems like you're missing his point.
He's talking about real 'bush' flying, away from
airports & service facilities. With conventional
2 piece
wheels, you could break them down with simple hand tools to
repair a flat, and a small hand pump to re-inflate.
But with
auto-style one piece wheels, it requires specialized
(heavy)
tools to break a tire down for repair. Not likely to be in a
tool kit you can carry in a Kolb or other very light
a/c.
Charlie
On 3/13/2016 11:19 PM, Carolina Flyer wrote:
Flyer"
Bill, I use a cheap harbor freight device for putting the
tires on, cost $49.95 I think.
Rick, The only tires that I sell are these that I have
pictures of and they fit on a 8 inch rims
--------
Kolb Firestar II
503 C-Box / RK400
Soon to have a
Rotax 670 DCDI
with a C-Box and
RK 400 Clutch
Challenger II
503 Tall Drive
Location : Buffalo South Carolina
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| From: | Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com> |
you could also try this. I've never used it, can't make a recommendation.
https://www.zoro.com/3m-flexible-foam-nvh-08463/i/G0406463/?gdffi=047ada9
98cf641fa93e55ae8579df863&gdfms=5EA4232146CF4B229C255AAAF651CF33&gclid=
CPW8-dyLw8sCFQYIaQodCZwIjw&gclsrc=aw.ds
Lots of Youtube videos about using urethane foam to fill tires, too, but it
doesn't remain flexible so it'll crush up over time and make a mess in
something like an aircraft tire.
Rick
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 1:08 PM, Bill Berle
wrote:
>
> Here's a potential game-changer solution right here...
>
> http://www.goldspeedproducts.com/shop/tire-blocks/
>
> These are foam inserts that allow you to run lower pressure and even run
> safely when punctured flat.
>
> I'll bet that these foam blocks weigh less than the three piece tire iron
> set that was mentioned earlier, or the can of flat tire repair goop :)
>
>
> Bill Berle
> www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
> www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and
> for-profit entities
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Mon, 3/14/16, Larry Cottrell wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
> To: "kolb-list(at)matronics.com"
> Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 10:37 AM
>
> "
> I
> will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a tire
> pump. Even on a certified172 I can take the wheel off the
> airplane with a medium Crescent wrench, take the wheel apart
> with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube or patch a
> tire, and get it back together to fly back
> home."
>
> I just
> carry a can of "spare tire" wrapped in bubble wrap
> in the back of my plane.
> Larry
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
> at 10:56 AM, Bill Berle
> wrote:
> Bill Berle
>
>
> Yes, I want to make it clear that I'm not trying to
> hassle or trash-talk anyone or their product. I do prefer
> not having to wrestle with someone just to get an answer to
> my question, but regardless of the effort it takes to get
> that answer my motives and agendas are positive and not
> negative.
>
>
> My situation is that I want to fly extreme-STOL up in the
> mountains and desert. I've been scouting several
> locations in my 172, and believe it or not most of them are
> actually within 50 or 60 miles of the "big city"
> limits. So it's not like I'm going out Grizzly bear
> bow hunting in the Aleutian Islands or anything... but
> it's still way too far for me to just "walk into
> town" with a tire and wheel in my hands.
>
>
> I will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a tire
> pump. Even on a certified172 I can take the wheel off the
> airplane with a medium Crescent wrench, take the wheel apart
> with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube or patch a
> tire, and get it back together to fly back home.
>
>
> Bill Berle
>
> --------------------------------------------
>
> On Mon, 3/14/16, Richard Girard
> wrote:
>
>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
>
> To: "kolb-list(at)matronics.com"
>
>
> Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 9:29 AM
>
>
> I have three metal
>
> tire irons that I carry with me. Less than 1 lb. for the
> set
>
> and with a little water as lubricant they get the tire off
> a
>
> one piece wheel just fine. It's breaking the bead
>
> that's the trick and for that I just use a hammer
> with
>
> one iron to get it started. It's not what I'd use
> at
>
> home, but we're talking stranded in the outback with
> the
>
> vultures circling. :-}
>
> Rick Girard
>
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
>
> at 9:16 AM, Charlie England
>
> wrote:
>
>
> Charlie England
>
>
> The tires and wheels do look nice, and are likely a good
>
> option if flying close to home.
>
>
> However, it seems like you're missing his point.
>
> He's talking about real 'bush' flying, away
> from
>
> airports & service facilities. With conventional 2
> piece
>
> wheels, you could break them down with simple hand tools
> to
>
> repair a flat, and a small hand pump to re-inflate. But
> with
>
> auto-style one piece wheels, it requires specialized
> (heavy)
>
> tools to break a tire down for repair. Not likely to be in
> a
>
> tool kit you can carry in a Kolb or other very light
>
> a/c.
>
>
> Charlie
>
>
> On 3/13/2016 11:19 PM, Carolina Flyer wrote:
>
>
> Flyer"
>
>
> Bill, I use a cheap harbor freight device for putting
> the
>
> tires on, cost $49.95 I think.
>
>
> Rick, The only tires that I sell are these that I have
>
> pictures of and they fit on a 8 inch rims
>
>
> --------
>
>
> Kolb Firestar II
>
>
> 503 C-Box / RK400
>
>
> Soon to have a
>
>
> Rotax 670 DCDI
>
>
> with a C-Box and
>
>
> RK 400 Clutch
>
>
> Challenger II
>
>
> 503 Tall Drive
>
>
> Location : Buffalo South Carolina
>
>
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| From: | Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com> |
Rex, the problem with this setup is you have a rigid caliper mount, a rigid
disk mount, and single action calipers. Where is the movement that allows
the caliper to squeeze the disk from both sides? My guess is that this is
why you weren't getting stopping and holding power.
I have a customer with Matco brakes on his Highlander, but they have slide
pins so the caliper can move to bring both inside and outside pucks to bear
on the disk.
My trike's brakes have slide pins for the disk instead, but the outcome is
the same and the caliper grips both sides of the disk.
Take a look at the disk brakes on almost all cars. They have single action
calipers mounted on slide pins so the caliper can grip both sides of the
disk.
Rick Girard
PS For builders out there. If you are getting ready to mount Matco brakes
with single action calipers think through where the brake dust is going and
mount the caliper so the slide pins are UPWIND of the pucks. If you don't
the dust turns the slide pin lube into lapping compound. The builder of the
Highlander didn't and my customer was going through brake pucks every 30
hours and having to replace disks every 60 hours. This on an airplane that
rarely sees a paved runway. At the last caliper rebuild I showed him the
problem and got him to let me reverse the caliper mounting. He's at 60
hours and the brake pucks show little wear.
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 4:22 PM, Rex Rodebush wrote:
>
> I have 8.00-6 tires and one Matco caliper was not enough. I added an
> additional newer Matco caliper on the existing wheels and now I can lock
a
> wheel to make a sharp turn and also hold tight at run up. See pictures.
>
> Rex
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=453759#453759
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| From: | Bill Berle <victorbravo(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Tires for your Firestar |
I'm sure that the chemical type of foam is the key, because of exactly that problem...
getting less flexible over time and turning into a mess. I have no idea
for sure, but this may be a good application for some kind of foam made form
silicone rubber.
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 3/15/16, Richard Girard wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: "kolb-list(at)matronics.com"
Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2016, 9:21 AM
you could also try
this. I've never used it, can't make a
recommendation.
https://www.zoro.com/3m-flexible-foam-nvh-08463/i/G0406463/?gdffi=047ada998cf641fa93e55ae8579df863&gdfms=5EA4232146CF4B229C255AAAF651CF33&gclid=CPW8-dyLw8sCFQYIaQodCZwIjw&gclsrc=aw.ds
Lots of Youtube videos about using urethane foam
to fill tires, too, but it doesn't remain flexible so
it'll crush up over time and make a mess in something
like an aircraft tire.
Rick
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
at 1:08 PM, Bill Berle
wrote:
Bill Berle
Here's a potential game-changer solution right
here...
http://www.goldspeedproducts.com/shop/tire-blocks/
These are foam inserts that allow you to run lower pressure
and even run safely when punctured flat.
I'll bet that these foam blocks weigh less than the
three piece tire iron set that was mentioned earlier, or the
can of flat tire repair goop :)
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com
- safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
www.grantstar.net
- winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit
entities
--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 3/14/16, Larry Cottrell
wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: "kolb-list(at)matronics.com"
Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 10:37 AM
"
I
will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a
tire
pump. Even on a certified172 I can take the wheel off the
airplane with a medium Crescent wrench, take the wheel
apart
with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube or patch
a
tire, and get it back together to fly back
home."
I just
carry a can of "spare tire" wrapped in bubble
wrap
in the back of my plane.
Larry
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
at 10:56 AM, Bill Berle
wrote:
Bill Berle
Yes, I want to make it clear that I'm not trying to
hassle or trash-talk anyone or their product. I do prefer
not having to wrestle with someone just to get an answer
to
my question, but regardless of the effort it takes to get
that answer my motives and agendas are positive and not
negative.
My situation is that I want to fly extreme-STOL up in the
mountains and desert. I've been scouting several
locations in my 172, and believe it or not most of them
are
actually within 50 or 60 miles of the "big
city"
limits. So it's not like I'm going out Grizzly
bear
bow hunting in the Aleutian Islands or anything... but
it's still way too far for me to just "walk into
town" with a tire and wheel in my hands.
I will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a
tire
pump. Even on a certified172 I can take the wheel off the
airplane with a medium Crescent wrench, take the wheel
apart
with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube or patch
a
tire, and get it back together to fly back home.
Bill Berle
--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 3/14/16, Richard Girard
wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: "kolb-list(at)matronics.com"
Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 9:29 AM
I have three metal
tire irons that I carry with me. Less than 1 lb. for
the
set
and with a little water as lubricant they get the tire
off
a
one piece wheel just fine. It's breaking the bead
that's the trick and for that I just use a hammer
with
one iron to get it started. It's not what I'd
use
at
home, but we're talking stranded in the outback
with
the
vultures circling. :-}
Rick Girard
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
at 9:16 AM, Charlie England
wrote:
Charlie England
The tires and wheels do look nice, and are likely a
good
option if flying close to home.
However, it seems like you're missing his point.
He's talking about real 'bush' flying, away
from
airports & service facilities. With conventional 2
piece
wheels, you could break them down with simple hand
tools
to
repair a flat, and a small hand pump to re-inflate. But
with
auto-style one piece wheels, it requires specialized
(heavy)
tools to break a tire down for repair. Not likely to be
in
a
tool kit you can carry in a Kolb or other very light
a/c.
Charlie
On 3/13/2016 11:19 PM, Carolina Flyer wrote:
Flyer"
Bill, I use a cheap harbor freight device for putting
the
tires on, cost $49.95 I think.
Rick, The only tires that I sell are these that I have
pictures of and they fit on a 8 inch rims
--------
Kolb Firestar II
503 C-Box / RK400
Soon to have a
Rotax 670 DCDI
with a C-Box and
RK 400 Clutch
Challenger II
503 Tall Drive
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| From: | "Rex Rodebush" <jrrodebush(at)gmail.com> |
The mechanical advantage is about 4.5:1 with the new design. I modified the brakes
to fit my feet as it was difficult not to ride the brakes while taxing.
The next time I'm at the airport I'll take some pictures of the new brake pedals
and also check if the calipers are dual acting. They are the Matco setup and
have not been changed. I assume they would be dual acting.
Rex
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| From: | Bill Berle <victorbravo(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | Re: FireStar 2 Kit Received ! |
Well, the used FS2 kit that I had purchased has arrived! I picked it up form the
Yellow Freight terminal (YRC nowdays) last night. Got it back to my hangar,
and was able to spend a couple of hours unpacking most of it. I have not been
able to do a full inventory, because I do not have a full inventory sheet from
Kolb. But I have a lot of various airplane hardware floating around in my hangar
:)
One of the chimpanzees involved somewhere in the shipping crushed two or three
small tubes in the horizontal stabilizers.
The fuselage cage had been hand-painted with white brush-on house paint or something.
I'm thankful for that, because there is only minor corrosion in the form
of brown stains in the white paint, and no serious pitting. I will eventually
have it blasted and re-primed or powder coated. Any suggestions, warnings, or
experience good or bad with powder coating and steel priming is welcome.
The kit came with brownish-red plastic wheels and 15 x 6.00 x 6 tires. Alumuinum
gear legs, short windshield, one gas can. It is serial number FS-636, the instruction
manual is dated 1996.
The aluminum tube for the tailboom ("fuselage tube" in Kolb language) had apparently
been accidentally drilled for the wing ribs, because the original builder
did not realize the tubes were different. So I may be able to salvage it, repair
it, or plug the holes with "Dead" rivets. Or, I may have to replace the tube.
I will be using 4 stroke power on this, as I have mentioned previously. Dagwodzz
has been very kind to spend some quality time with me on the phone educating
me about V-twins. Thank you Dagz! I am also looking at the absolutely beautiful
Pegasus Power O-100 engine from Pete Plumb in California. I have seen this
engine run in person and was very very impressed.
If anyone can point me to specific articles or archives on this list regarding
technical errors in the plans or instructions, or common problems building the
FireStar, Again I am happy to hear about it.
I have several minor and medium size modifications and tweaks that I am looking
into on this airplane. Some of them are aerodynamic (raked tips, VG's, etc.),
some of them are engine related (4 stroke), and some of them are mechanical (aircraft
quality hardware and fasteners wherever possible... I have this stuff
laying around).
Glad to be a brand new, green, wet-behind-the-ears Kolber !
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 3/15/16, Richard Girard wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: "kolb-list(at)matronics.com"
Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2016, 9:21 AM
you could also try
this. I've never used it, can't make a
recommendation.
https://www.zoro.com/3m-flexible-foam-nvh-08463/i/G0406463/?gdffi=047ada998cf641fa93e55ae8579df863&gdfms=5EA4232146CF4B229C255AAAF651CF33&gclid=CPW8-dyLw8sCFQYIaQodCZwIjw&gclsrc=aw.ds
Lots of Youtube videos about using urethane foam
to fill tires, too, but it doesn't remain flexible so
it'll crush up over time and make a mess in something
like an aircraft tire.
Rick
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
at 1:08 PM, Bill Berle
wrote:
Bill Berle
Here's a potential game-changer solution right
here...
http://www.goldspeedproducts.com/shop/tire-blocks/
These are foam inserts that allow you to run lower pressure
and even run safely when punctured flat.
I'll bet that these foam blocks weigh less than the
three piece tire iron set that was mentioned earlier, or the
can of flat tire repair goop :)
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com
- safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
www.grantstar.net
- winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit
entities
--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 3/14/16, Larry Cottrell
wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: "kolb-list(at)matronics.com"
Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 10:37 AM
"
I
will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a
tire
pump. Even on a certified172 I can take the wheel off the
airplane with a medium Crescent wrench, take the wheel
apart
with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube or patch
a
tire, and get it back together to fly back
home."
I just
carry a can of "spare tire" wrapped in bubble
wrap
in the back of my plane.
Larry
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
at 10:56 AM, Bill Berle
wrote:
Bill Berle
Yes, I want to make it clear that I'm not trying to
hassle or trash-talk anyone or their product. I do prefer
not having to wrestle with someone just to get an answer
to
my question, but regardless of the effort it takes to get
that answer my motives and agendas are positive and not
negative.
My situation is that I want to fly extreme-STOL up in the
mountains and desert. I've been scouting several
locations in my 172, and believe it or not most of them
are
actually within 50 or 60 miles of the "big
city"
limits. So it's not like I'm going out Grizzly
bear
bow hunting in the Aleutian Islands or anything... but
it's still way too far for me to just "walk into
town" with a tire and wheel in my hands.
I will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a
tire
pump. Even on a certified172 I can take the wheel off the
airplane with a medium Crescent wrench, take the wheel
apart
with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube or patch
a
tire, and get it back together to fly back home.
Bill Berle
--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 3/14/16, Richard Girard
wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: "kolb-list(at)matronics.com"
Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 9:29 AM
I have three metal
tire irons that I carry with me. Less than 1 lb. for
the
set
and with a little water as lubricant they get the tire
off
a
one piece wheel just fine. It's breaking the bead
that's the trick and for that I just use a hammer
with
one iron to get it started. It's not what I'd
use
at
home, but we're talking stranded in the outback
with
the
vultures circling. :-}
Rick Girard
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
at 9:16 AM, Charlie England
wrote:
Charlie England
The tires and wheels do look nice, and are likely a
good
option if flying close to home.
However, it seems like you're missing his point.
He's talking about real 'bush' flying, away
from
airports & service facilities. With conventional 2
piece
wheels, you could break them down with simple hand
tools
to
repair a flat, and a small hand pump to re-inflate. But
with
auto-style one piece wheels, it requires specialized
(heavy)
tools to break a tire down for repair. Not likely to be
in
a
tool kit you can carry in a Kolb or other very light
a/c.
Charlie
On 3/13/2016 11:19 PM, Carolina Flyer wrote:
Flyer"
Bill, I use a cheap harbor freight device for putting
the
tires on, cost $49.95 I think.
Rick, The only tires that I sell are these that I have
pictures of and they fit on a 8 inch rims
--------
Kolb Firestar II
503 C-Box / RK400
Soon to have a
Rotax 670 DCDI
with a C-Box and
RK 400 Clutch
Challenger II
503 Tall Drive
Location : Buffalo South Carolina
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| Subject: | Re: FireStar 2 Kit Received ! |
| From: | Herb <Herbgh(at)nctc.com> |
Ouch...that boom tube is 500 bucks at Kolb.... last I checked....they
get it in 20 ft lengths and it does them no good to cut to size when
selling parts...Herb
On 03/16/2016 12:33 PM, Bill Berle wrote:
>
> Well, the used FS2 kit that I had purchased has arrived! I picked it up form
the Yellow Freight terminal (YRC nowdays) last night. Got it back to my hangar,
and was able to spend a couple of hours unpacking most of it. I have not been
able to do a full inventory, because I do not have a full inventory sheet from
Kolb. But I have a lot of various airplane hardware floating around in my hangar
:)
>
> One of the chimpanzees involved somewhere in the shipping crushed two or three
small tubes in the horizontal stabilizers.
>
> The fuselage cage had been hand-painted with white brush-on house paint or something.
I'm thankful for that, because there is only minor corrosion in the form
of brown stains in the white paint, and no serious pitting. I will eventually
have it blasted and re-primed or powder coated. Any suggestions, warnings,
or experience good or bad with powder coating and steel priming is welcome.
>
> The kit came with brownish-red plastic wheels and 15 x 6.00 x 6 tires. Alumuinum
gear legs, short windshield, one gas can. It is serial number FS-636, the
instruction manual is dated 1996.
>
> The aluminum tube for the tailboom ("fuselage tube" in Kolb language) had apparently
been accidentally drilled for the wing ribs, because the original builder
did not realize the tubes were different. So I may be able to salvage it,
repair it, or plug the holes with "Dead" rivets. Or, I may have to replace the
tube.
>
> I will be using 4 stroke power on this, as I have mentioned previously. Dagwodzz
has been very kind to spend some quality time with me on the phone educating
me about V-twins. Thank you Dagz! I am also looking at the absolutely beautiful
Pegasus Power O-100 engine from Pete Plumb in California. I have seen this
engine run in person and was very very impressed.
>
> If anyone can point me to specific articles or archives on this list regarding
technical errors in the plans or instructions, or common problems building the
FireStar, Again I am happy to hear about it.
>
> I have several minor and medium size modifications and tweaks that I am looking
into on this airplane. Some of them are aerodynamic (raked tips, VG's, etc.),
some of them are engine related (4 stroke), and some of them are mechanical
(aircraft quality hardware and fasteners wherever possible... I have this stuff
laying around).
>
> Glad to be a brand new, green, wet-behind-the-ears Kolber !
>
>
> Bill Berle
> www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
> www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Tue, 3/15/16, Richard Girard wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
> To: "kolb-list(at)matronics.com"
> Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2016, 9:21 AM
>
> you could also try
> this. I've never used it, can't make a
> recommendation.
> https://www.zoro.com/3m-flexible-foam-nvh-08463/i/G0406463/?gdffi=047ada998cf641fa93e55ae8579df863&gdfms=5EA4232146CF4B229C255AAAF651CF33&gclid=CPW8-dyLw8sCFQYIaQodCZwIjw&gclsrc=aw.ds
>
> Lots of Youtube videos about using urethane foam
> to fill tires, too, but it doesn't remain flexible so
> it'll crush up over time and make a mess in something
> like an aircraft tire.
> Rick
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
> at 1:08 PM, Bill Berle
> wrote:
> Bill Berle
>
>
>
> Here's a potential game-changer solution right
> here...
>
>
>
> http://www.goldspeedproducts.com/shop/tire-blocks/
>
>
>
> These are foam inserts that allow you to run lower pressure
> and even run safely when punctured flat.
>
>
>
> I'll bet that these foam blocks weigh less than the
> three piece tire iron set that was mentioned earlier, or the
> can of flat tire repair goop :)
>
>
>
>
>
> Bill Berle
>
> www.ezflaphandle.com
> - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
>
> www.grantstar.net
> - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit
> entities
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------
>
> On Mon, 3/14/16, Larry Cottrell
>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
>
> To: "kolb-list(at)matronics.com"
>
>
> Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 10:37 AM
>
>
>
> "
>
> I
>
> will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a
> tire
>
> pump. Even on a certified172 I can take the wheel off the
>
> airplane with a medium Crescent wrench, take the wheel
> apart
>
> with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube or patch
> a
>
> tire, and get it back together to fly back
>
> home."
>
>
>
> I just
>
> carry a can of "spare tire" wrapped in bubble
> wrap
>
> in the back of my plane.
>
> Larry
>
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
>
> at 10:56 AM, Bill Berle
>
> wrote:
>
>
> Bill Berle
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yes, I want to make it clear that I'm not trying to
>
> hassle or trash-talk anyone or their product. I do prefer
>
> not having to wrestle with someone just to get an answer
> to
>
> my question, but regardless of the effort it takes to get
>
> that answer my motives and agendas are positive and not
>
> negative.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> My situation is that I want to fly extreme-STOL up in the
>
> mountains and desert. I've been scouting several
>
> locations in my 172, and believe it or not most of them
> are
>
> actually within 50 or 60 miles of the "big
> city"
>
> limits. So it's not like I'm going out Grizzly
> bear
>
> bow hunting in the Aleutian Islands or anything... but
>
> it's still way too far for me to just "walk into
>
> town" with a tire and wheel in my hands.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a
> tire
>
> pump. Even on a certified172 I can take the wheel off the
>
> airplane with a medium Crescent wrench, take the wheel
> apart
>
> with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube or patch
> a
>
> tire, and get it back together to fly back home.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Bill Berle
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> On Mon, 3/14/16, Richard Girard
>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
>
>
>
> To: "kolb-list(at)matronics.com"
>
>
>
>
>
> Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 9:29 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I have three metal
>
>
>
> tire irons that I carry with me. Less than 1 lb. for
> the
>
> set
>
>
>
> and with a little water as lubricant they get the tire
> off
>
> a
>
>
>
> one piece wheel just fine. It's breaking the bead
>
>
>
> that's the trick and for that I just use a hammer
>
> with
>
>
>
> one iron to get it started. It's not what I'd
> use
>
> at
>
>
>
> home, but we're talking stranded in the outback
> with
>
> the
>
>
>
> vultures circling. :-}
>
>
>
> Rick Girard
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
>
>
>
> at 9:16 AM, Charlie England
>
>
>
> wrote:
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>
>
>
>
> Charlie England
>
>
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>
>
>
>
>
> The tires and wheels do look nice, and are likely a
> good
>
>
>
> option if flying close to home.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> However, it seems like you're missing his point.
>
>
>
> He's talking about real 'bush' flying, away
>
> from
>
>
>
> airports & service facilities. With conventional 2
>
> piece
>
>
>
> wheels, you could break them down with simple hand
> tools
>
> to
>
>
>
> repair a flat, and a small hand pump to re-inflate. But
>
> with
>
>
>
> auto-style one piece wheels, it requires specialized
>
> (heavy)
>
>
>
> tools to break a tire down for repair. Not likely to be
> in
>
> a
>
>
>
> tool kit you can carry in a Kolb or other very light
>
>
>
> a/c.
>
>
>
>
>
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> Charlie
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>
>
> On 3/13/2016 11:19 PM, Carolina Flyer wrote:
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>
>
> Flyer"
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>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Bill, I use a cheap harbor freight device for putting
>
> the
>
>
>
> tires on, cost $49.95 I think.
>
>
>
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>
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>
>
> Rick, The only tires that I sell are these that I have
>
>
>
> pictures of and they fit on a 8 inch rims
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --------
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Kolb Firestar II
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 503 C-Box / RK400
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Soon to have a
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Rotax 670 DCDI
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> with a C-Box and
>
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> RK 400 Clutch
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> Challenger II
>
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> 503 Tall Drive
>
>
>
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>
> Location : Buffalo South Carolina
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________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "KIRBY, DENNIS T GS-13 USAF AFMC AFNWC/EZS" <dennis.kirby.3(at)us.af.mil> |
| Subject: | Fixing a Flat Tire |
Bill Berle wrote: << I will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a tire
pump. I can take the wheel off the airplane with a medium Crescent wrench,
take the wheel apart with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube or patch
a tire, and get it back together to fly back home. >
Bill / Kolb Friends -
I, too, travel with tire changing tools in my Mark-3 when I go backcountry flying.
As Bill describes above, I am able to remove and take apart my split rims
and patch (or replace) the inner tube.
But what about using "Fix-a-Flat" for the solution? Does anyone have experience
blasting this goop into their Kolb inner tubes to remedy a flat tire? Seems
a lot lighter and easier, and you don't need the tire pump.
Pros? Cons?
Dennis Kirby
Mark-3
New Mexico
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Fixing a Flat Tire |
John W and also Bruce Chaisson repaired flats on the Kolbra and MKIII at MV
with Fix A Flat in a can. It worked.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of KIRBY, DENNIS T
GS-13 USAF AFMC AFNWC/EZS
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 2:04 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Fixing a Flat Tire
--> AFNWC/EZS"
Bill Berle wrote: << I will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a
tire pump. I can take the wheel off the airplane with a medium Crescent
wrench, take the wheel apart with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner
tube or patch a tire, and get it back together to fly back home. >
Bill / Kolb Friends -
I, too, travel with tire changing tools in my Mark-3 when I go backcountry
flying. As Bill describes above, I am able to remove and take apart my
split rims and patch (or replace) the inner tube.
But what about using "Fix-a-Flat" for the solution? Does anyone have
experience blasting this goop into their Kolb inner tubes to remedy a flat
tire? Seems a lot lighter and easier, and you don't need the tire pump.
Pros? Cons?
Dennis Kirby
Mark-3
New Mexico
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Fixing a Flat Tire |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
But what about using "Fix-a-Flat" for the solution? Does anyone have
experience blasting this goop into their Kolb inner tubes to remedy a flat
tire? Seems a lot lighter and easier, and you don't need the tire pump.
Pros? Cons?
Dennis Kirby
Mark-3
New Mexico
I have carried a can of"Spare tire" or fix a flat in my plane for about 12
years. I have never needed it, but its there when I do. Perhaps I should
check the expiration date?
Larry
On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 1:03 PM, KIRBY, DENNIS T GS-13 USAF AFMC AFNWC/EZS <
dennis.kirby.3(at)us.af.mil> wrote:
> AFNWC/EZS"
>
> Bill Berle wrote: << I will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and
> a tire pump. I can take the wheel off the airplane with a medium Crescent
> wrench,
> take the wheel apart with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube or
> patch
> a tire, and get it back together to fly back home. >
>
>
> Bill / Kolb Friends -
>
> I, too, travel with tire changing tools in my Mark-3 when I go backcountry
> flying. As Bill describes above, I am able to remove and take apart my
> split rims and patch (or replace) the inner tube.
>
> But what about using "Fix-a-Flat" for the solution? Does anyone have
> experience blasting this goop into their Kolb inner tubes to remedy a flat
> tire? Seems a lot lighter and easier, and you don't need the tire pump.
>
> Pros? Cons?
>
> Dennis Kirby
> Mark-3
> New Mexico
>
>
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*If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email
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________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Bill Berle <victorbravo(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Fixing a Flat Tire |
The effectiveness of Fix-a-Flat will clearly depend on the damage to the tire or
tube. Bullhead thorn, no problem. Lava rock through the sidewall... problem
:)
It appears to me that if there is any kind of run-flat wheel/tire out there that
is light enough to not cause a weight issue, it is probably well worth the extra
money. Being well-versed in Murphy's Law and the Law of Applied Entropy I
can guarantee that any punctured flat tire event will happen less than 30 minutes
before sunset !
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
--------------------------------------------
On Wed, 3/16/16, KIRBY, DENNIS T GS-13 USAF AFMC AFNWC/EZS
wrote:
Subject: Kolb-List: Fixing a Flat Tire
To: "kolb-list(at)matronics.com"
Date: Wednesday, March 16, 2016, 12:03 PM
"KIRBY, DENNIS T GS-13 USAF AFMC AFNWC/EZS"
Bill Berle wrote: << I will have a small lightweight
tool kit with me, and a tire pump. I can take the wheel off
the airplane with a medium Crescent wrench,
take the wheel apart with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an
inner tube or patch
a tire, and get it back together to fly back home. >
Bill / Kolb Friends -
I, too, travel with tire changing tools in my Mark-3 when I
go backcountry flying. As Bill describes above, I am
able to remove and take apart my split rims and patch (or
replace) the inner tube.
But what about using "Fix-a-Flat" for the solution?
Does anyone have experience blasting this goop into their
Kolb inner tubes to remedy a flat tire? Seems a lot
lighter and easier, and you don't need the tire pump.
Pros? Cons?
Dennis Kirby
Mark-3
New Mexico
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| Subject: | Re: FireStar 2 Kit Received ! |
| From: | Rick Neilsen <neilsenrm(at)gmail.com> |
Bill
Consider that new engine very carefully. I'm speaking from experience. I
was the first to put a VW on a Kolb. It is a big undertaking. First the Peg
asus
Power O-100 engine uses a difocal mount and kolbs have a bed type mount. I
had to fabricate a custom mount for the VW. I had help as GP Aircraft made
a prop end mount that made it easier. You will have to fabricate a custom
exhaust system. You will need to enter the black science of prop selection.
You may like magnetos but I don't, they are heavy, expensive, under
powered, and there is a reason they come in pairs. Now the real tough
stuff, the engine is still in development. You will be the test pilot for
not just the engine installation but for the engine too.
Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to talk you out of it but do not
underestimate the task you will be taking on. I spent one extra year
installing my VW. Then I changed to a redrive VW engine. Then I had a
redrive failure. Then I fabricated a new lower engine mount. Five years
later I was still tweaking exhaust systems, Props, carb settings, and
redrive ratios. Eighteen years later I'm still battling engine noise - the
engine mount transmits too much vibration noise to the airframe. One of my
high engine mounts had a soft enough mount that was very smooth and quiet
but chewed up engine mounting bushings/dampers.
One more thing, engine builders overestimate power and underestimate weight
and price.
It could be a worthy challenge but are you up to it?
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 1:33 PM, Bill Berle
wrote:
>
> Well, the used FS2 kit that I had purchased has arrived! I picked it up
> form the Yellow Freight terminal (YRC nowdays) last night. Got it back to
> my hangar, and was able to spend a couple of hours unpacking most of it.
I
> have not been able to do a full inventory, because I do not have a full
> inventory sheet from Kolb. But I have a lot of various airplane hardware
> floating around in my hangar :)
>
> One of the chimpanzees involved somewhere in the shipping crushed two or
> three small tubes in the horizontal stabilizers.
>
> The fuselage cage had been hand-painted with white brush-on house paint o
r
> something. I'm thankful for that, because there is only minor corrosion i
n
> the form of brown stains in the white paint, and no serious pitting. I wi
ll
> eventually have it blasted and re-primed or powder coated. Any suggestion
s,
> warnings, or experience good or bad with powder coating and steel priming
> is welcome.
>
> The kit came with brownish-red plastic wheels and 15 x 6.00 x 6 tires.
> Alumuinum gear legs, short windshield, one gas can. It is serial number
> FS-636, the instruction manual is dated 1996.
>
> The aluminum tube for the tailboom ("fuselage tube" in Kolb language) had
> apparently been accidentally drilled for the wing ribs, because the
> original builder did not realize the tubes were different. So I may be ab
le
> to salvage it, repair it, or plug the holes with "Dead" rivets. Or, I may
> have to replace the tube.
>
> I will be using 4 stroke power on this, as I have mentioned previously.
> Dagwodzz has been very kind to spend some quality time with me on the pho
ne
> educating me about V-twins. Thank you Dagz! I am also looking at the
> absolutely beautiful Pegasus Power O-100 engine from Pete Plumb in
> California. I have seen this engine run in person and was very very
> impressed.
>
> If anyone can point me to specific articles or archives on this list
> regarding technical errors in the plans or instructions, or common proble
ms
> building the FireStar, Again I am happy to hear about it.
>
> I have several minor and medium size modifications and tweaks that I am
> looking into on this airplane. Some of them are aerodynamic (raked tips,
> VG's, etc.), some of them are engine related (4 stroke), and some of them
> are mechanical (aircraft quality hardware and fasteners wherever
> possible... I have this stuff laying around).
>
> Glad to be a brand new, green, wet-behind-the-ears Kolber !
>
>
> Bill Berle
> www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
> www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and
> for-profit entities
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Tue, 3/15/16, Richard Girard wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
> To: "kolb-list(at)matronics.com"
> Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2016, 9:21 AM
>
> you could also try
> this. I've never used it, can't make a
> recommendation.
>
> https://www.zoro.com/3m-flexible-foam-nvh-08463/i/G0406463/?gdffi=047ad
a998cf641fa93e55ae8579df863&gdfms=5EA4232146CF4B229C255AAAF651CF33&gclid
=CPW8-dyLw8sCFQYIaQodCZwIjw&gclsrc=aw.ds
>
> Lots of Youtube videos about using urethane foam
> to fill tires, too, but it doesn't remain flexible so
> it'll crush up over time and make a mess in something
> like an aircraft tire.
> Rick
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
> at 1:08 PM, Bill Berle
> wrote:
> Bill Berle
>
>
> Here's a potential game-changer solution right
> here...
>
>
> http://www.goldspeedproducts.com/shop/tire-blocks/
>
>
> These are foam inserts that allow you to run lower pressure
> and even run safely when punctured flat.
>
>
> I'll bet that these foam blocks weigh less than the
> three piece tire iron set that was mentioned earlier, or the
> can of flat tire repair goop :)
>
>
> Bill Berle
>
> www.ezflaphandle.com
> - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
>
> www.grantstar.net
> - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit
> entities
>
>
> --------------------------------------------
>
> On Mon, 3/14/16, Larry Cottrell
>
> wrote:
>
>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
>
> To: "kolb-list(at)matronics.com"
>
>
> Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 10:37 AM
>
>
> "
>
> I
>
> will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a
> tire
>
> pump. Even on a certified172 I can take the wheel off the
>
> airplane with a medium Crescent wrench, take the wheel
> apart
>
> with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube or patch
> a
>
> tire, and get it back together to fly back
>
> home."
>
>
> I just
>
> carry a can of "spare tire" wrapped in bubble
> wrap
>
> in the back of my plane.
>
> Larry
>
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
>
> at 10:56 AM, Bill Berle
>
> wrote:
>
>
> Bill Berle
>
>
> Yes, I want to make it clear that I'm not trying to
>
> hassle or trash-talk anyone or their product. I do prefer
>
> not having to wrestle with someone just to get an answer
> to
>
> my question, but regardless of the effort it takes to get
>
> that answer my motives and agendas are positive and not
>
> negative.
>
>
> My situation is that I want to fly extreme-STOL up in the
>
> mountains and desert. I've been scouting several
>
> locations in my 172, and believe it or not most of them
> are
>
> actually within 50 or 60 miles of the "big
> city"
>
> limits. So it's not like I'm going out Grizzly
> bear
>
> bow hunting in the Aleutian Islands or anything... but
>
> it's still way too far for me to just "walk into
>
> town" with a tire and wheel in my hands.
>
>
> I will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a
> tire
>
> pump. Even on a certified172 I can take the wheel off the
>
> airplane with a medium Crescent wrench, take the wheel
> apart
>
> with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube or patch
> a
>
> tire, and get it back together to fly back home.
>
>
> Bill Berle
>
>
> --------------------------------------------
>
>
> On Mon, 3/14/16, Richard Girard
>
> wrote:
>
>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
>
>
> To: "kolb-list(at)matronics.com"
>
>
>
>
> Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 9:29 AM
>
>
> I have three metal
>
>
> tire irons that I carry with me. Less than 1 lb. for
> the
>
> set
>
>
> and with a little water as lubricant they get the tire
> off
>
> a
>
>
> one piece wheel just fine. It's breaking the bead
>
>
> that's the trick and for that I just use a hammer
>
> with
>
>
> one iron to get it started. It's not what I'd
> use
>
> at
>
>
> home, but we're talking stranded in the outback
> with
>
> the
>
>
> vultures circling. :-}
>
>
> Rick Girard
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
>
>
> at 9:16 AM, Charlie England
>
>
> wrote:
>
>
> Charlie England
>
>
> The tires and wheels do look nice, and are likely a
> good
>
>
> option if flying close to home.
>
>
> However, it seems like you're missing his point.
>
>
> He's talking about real 'bush' flying, away
>
> from
>
>
> airports & service facilities. With conventional 2
>
> piece
>
>
> wheels, you could break them down with simple hand
> tools
>
> to
>
>
> repair a flat, and a small hand pump to re-inflate. But
>
> with
>
>
> auto-style one piece wheels, it requires specialized
>
> (heavy)
>
>
> tools to break a tire down for repair. Not likely to be
> in
>
> a
>
>
> tool kit you can carry in a Kolb or other very light
>
>
> a/c.
>
>
> Charlie
>
>
> On 3/13/2016 11:19 PM, Carolina Flyer wrote:
>
>
> Flyer"
>
>
> Bill, I use a cheap harbor freight device for putting
>
> the
>
>
> tires on, cost $49.95 I think.
>
>
> Rick, The only tires that I sell are these that I have
>
>
> pictures of and they fit on a 8 inch rims
>
>
> --------
>
>
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>
>
> 503 C-Box / RK400
>
>
> Soon to have a
>
>
> Rotax 670 DCDI
>
>
> with a C-Box and
>
>
> RK 400 Clutch
>
>
> Challenger II
>
>
> 503 Tall Drive
>
>
> Location : Buffalo South Carolina
>
>
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Fixing a Flat Tire |
2004, landed at Fort Nelson Airport, BC, right after sun down. Went in the FBO
to see about fuel. When I walked back out to the MKIII, a main tire was flat.
Earlier I had experienced a main tire flat on the bank of the Knik River south
of Palmer, AK. Only tube I could find with a 90 degree valve stem was in Lowes.
It was for a wheel barrow. That is something like a 400X6, in an 800X6 tire.
I flew the Kenai Peninsula to Seldovia, over to McCarthy, north to Dead
Horse/Prudhoe Bay, Kaktovik, Point Barrow, AK, Tuktoyaktuk, Northwest Territory,
and south to Fort Nelson before the tube failed. Found a patch, and with the
help of a local motorcycle gang, that had a hanger at the airport, put a fix
on the tube, then flew the rest of the way home to Alabama. There are places
I landed off airports to wait out weather that had no help should that tire
go flat. The Man was watching out for me. ;-)
Murphy never strikes when it is convenient for the victim.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Berle
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fixing a Flat Tire
The effectiveness of Fix-a-Flat will clearly depend on the damage to the tire or
tube. Bullhead thorn, no problem. Lava rock through the sidewall... problem
:)
It appears to me that if there is any kind of run-flat wheel/tire out there that
is light enough to not cause a weight issue, it is probably well worth the extra
money. Being well-versed in Murphy's Law and the Law of Applied Entropy I
can guarantee that any punctured flat tire event will happen less than 30 minutes
before sunset !
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
--------------------------------------------
On Wed, 3/16/16, KIRBY, DENNIS T GS-13 USAF AFMC AFNWC/EZS
wrote:
Subject: Kolb-List: Fixing a Flat Tire
To: "kolb-list(at)matronics.com"
Date: Wednesday, March 16, 2016, 12:03 PM
"KIRBY, DENNIS T GS-13 USAF AFMC AFNWC/EZS"
Bill Berle wrote: << I will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a
tire pump. I can take the wheel off the airplane with a medium Crescent wrench,
take the wheel apart with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube or
patch a tire, and get it back together to fly back home. >
Bill / Kolb Friends -
I, too, travel with tire changing tools in my Mark-3 when I go backcountry flying.
As Bill describes above, I am able to remove and take apart my split rims
and patch (or
replace) the inner tube.
But what about using "Fix-a-Flat" for the solution? Does anyone have experience
blasting this goop into their Kolb inner tubes to remedy a flat tire? Seems
a lot lighter and easier, and you don't need the tire pump.
Pros? Cons?
Dennis Kirby
Mark-3
New Mexico
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Firestar 2 Kit Received ! |
Very valid points from a man who has been there and done that, and seems
to still be doing it.
After considering where I fly and how unforgiving gravity is, I go with
the best, proven, engine I can find for my aircraft.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Neilsen
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FireStar 2 Kit Received !
Bill
Consider that new engine very carefully. I'm speaking from experience. I
was the first to put a VW on a Kolb. It is a big undertaking. First the
Pegasus Power O-100 engine uses a difocal mount and kolbs have a bed
type mount. I had to fabricate a custom mount for the VW. I had help as
GP Aircraft made a prop end mount that made it easier. You will have to
fabricate a custom exhaust system. You will need to enter the black
science of prop selection. You may like magnetos but I don't, they are
heavy, expensive, under powered, and there is a reason they come in
pairs. Now the real tough stuff, the engine is still in development. You
will be the test pilot for not just the engine installation but for the
engine too.
Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to talk you out of it but do not
underestimate the task you will be taking on. I spent one extra year
installing my VW. Then I changed to a redrive VW engine. Then I had a
redrive failure. Then I fabricated a new lower engine mount. Five years
later I was still tweaking exhaust systems, Props, carb settings, and
redrive ratios. Eighteen years later I'm still battling engine noise -
the engine mount transmits too much vibration noise to the airframe. One
of my high engine mounts had a soft enough mount that was very smooth
and quiet but chewed up engine mounting bushings/dampers.
One more thing, engine builders overestimate power and underestimate
weight and price.
It could be a worthy challenge but are you up to it?
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 1:33 PM, Bill Berle
wrote:
Well, the used FS2 kit that I had purchased has arrived! I picked it up
form the Yellow Freight terminal (YRC nowdays) last night. Got it back
to my hangar, and was able to spend a couple of hours unpacking most of
it. I have not been able to do a full inventory, because I do not have a
full inventory sheet from Kolb. But I have a lot of various airplane
hardware floating around in my hangar :)
One of the chimpanzees involved somewhere in the shipping crushed two or
three small tubes in the horizontal stabilizers.
The fuselage cage had been hand-painted with white brush-on house paint
or something. I'm thankful for that, because there is only minor
corrosion in the form of brown stains in the white paint, and no serious
pitting. I will eventually have it blasted and re-primed or powder
coated. Any suggestions, warnings, or experience good or bad with powder
coating and steel priming is welcome.
The kit came with brownish-red plastic wheels and 15 x 6.00 x 6 tires.
Alumuinum gear legs, short windshield, one gas can. It is serial number
FS-636, the instruction manual is dated 1996.
The aluminum tube for the tailboom ("fuselage tube" in Kolb language)
had apparently been accidentally drilled for the wing ribs, because the
original builder did not realize the tubes were different. So I may be
able to salvage it, repair it, or plug the holes with "Dead" rivets. Or,
I may have to replace the tube.
I will be using 4 stroke power on this, as I have mentioned previously.
Dagwodzz has been very kind to spend some quality time with me on the
phone educating me about V-twins. Thank you Dagz! I am also looking at
the absolutely beautiful Pegasus Power O-100 engine from Pete Plumb in
California. I have seen this engine run in person and was very very
impressed.
If anyone can point me to specific articles or archives on this list
regarding technical errors in the plans or instructions, or common
problems building the FireStar, Again I am happy to hear about it.
I have several minor and medium size modifications and tweaks that I am
looking into on this airplane. Some of them are aerodynamic (raked tips,
VG's, etc.), some of them are engine related (4 stroke), and some of
them are mechanical (aircraft quality hardware and fasteners wherever
possible... I have this stuff laying around).
Glad to be a brand new, green, wet-behind-the-ears Kolber !
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and
for-profit entities
--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 3/15/16, Richard Girard wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: "kolb-list(at)matronics.com"
Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2016, 9:21 AM
you could also try
this. I've never used it, can't make a
recommendation.
https://www.zoro.com/3m-flexible-foam-nvh-08463/i/G0406463/?gdffi=047ad
a998cf641fa93e55ae8579df863
&gdfms=5EA4232146CF4B229C255AAAF651CF33&gclid=CPW8-dyLw8sCFQYIaQodCZw
Ijw&gclsrc=aw.ds
Lots of Youtube videos about using urethane foam
to fill tires, too, but it doesn't remain flexible so
it'll crush up over time and make a mess in something
like an aircraft tire.
Rick
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
at 1:08 PM, Bill Berle
wrote:
Bill Berle
Here's a potential game-changer solution right
here...
http://www.goldspeedproducts.com/shop/tire-blocks/
These are foam inserts that allow you to run lower pressure
and even run safely when punctured flat.
I'll bet that these foam blocks weigh less than the
three piece tire iron set that was mentioned earlier, or the
can of flat tire repair goop :)
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com
- safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
www.grantstar.net
- winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit
entities
--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 3/14/16, Larry Cottrell
wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: "kolb-list(at)matronics.com"
Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 10:37 AM
"
I
will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a
tire
pump. Even on a certified172 I can take the wheel off the
airplane with a medium Crescent wrench, take the wheel
apart
with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube or patch
a
tire, and get it back together to fly back
home."
I just
carry a can of "spare tire" wrapped in bubble
wrap
in the back of my plane.
Larry
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
at 10:56 AM, Bill Berle
wrote:
Bill Berle
Yes, I want to make it clear that I'm not trying to
hassle or trash-talk anyone or their product. I do prefer
not having to wrestle with someone just to get an answer
to
my question, but regardless of the effort it takes to get
that answer my motives and agendas are positive and not
negative.
My situation is that I want to fly extreme-STOL up in the
mountains and desert. I've been scouting several
locations in my 172, and believe it or not most of them
are
actually within 50 or 60 miles of the "big
city"
limits. So it's not like I'm going out Grizzly
bear
bow hunting in the Aleutian Islands or anything... but
it's still way too far for me to just "walk into
town" with a tire and wheel in my hands.
I will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a
tire
pump. Even on a certified172 I can take the wheel off the
airplane with a medium Crescent wrench, take the wheel
apart
with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube or patch
a
tire, and get it back together to fly back home.
Bill Berle
--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 3/14/16, Richard Girard
wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: "kolb-list(at)matronics.com"
Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 9:29 AM
I have three metal
tire irons that I carry with me. Less than 1 lb. for
the
set
and with a little water as lubricant they get the tire
off
a
one piece wheel just fine. It's breaking the bead
that's the trick and for that I just use a hammer
with
one iron to get it started. It's not what I'd
use
at
home, but we're talking stranded in the outback
with
the
vultures circling. :-}
Rick Girard
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
at 9:16 AM, Charlie England
wrote:
Charlie England
The tires and wheels do look nice, and are likely a
good
option if flying close to home.
However, it seems like you're missing his point.
He's talking about real 'bush' flying, away
from
airports & service facilities. With conventional 2
piece
wheels, you could break them down with simple hand
tools
to
repair a flat, and a small hand pump to re-inflate. But
with
auto-style one piece wheels, it requires specialized
(heavy)
tools to break a tire down for repair. Not likely to be
in
a
tool kit you can carry in a Kolb or other very light
a/c.
Charlie
On 3/13/2016 11:19 PM, Carolina Flyer wrote:
Flyer"
Bill, I use a cheap harbor freight device for putting
the
tires on, cost $49.95 I think.
Rick, The only tires that I sell are these that I have
pictures of and they fit on a 8 inch rims
--------
Kolb Firestar II
503 C-Box / RK400
Soon to have a
Rotax 670 DCDI
with a C-Box and
RK 400 Clutch
Challenger II
503 Tall Drive
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | FireStar 2 Kit Received ! |
Homer Kolb designed his wing for a reason. It works.
I have never, in 32 years changed the outside dimensions of an
Ultrastar, Firestar, or MKIII wing. They work for me.
Plastic wheels don't even make good paper weights.
A varmint decided to taste the fabric on the right main gear of my
MKIII. We just completely rebuilt, fabric and paint, both main gear a
year ago. I'd shoot him is I could find him. Have no idea what it was.
I was over at Gantt International Airport yesterday taking photos of
the damage. Took a couple extra of the environment over there. My
little piece of heaven.
Spring has sprung at hauck's holler. The weeds have sprouted. One can
watch them grow they are so fast. Spring is my favorite season.
Everything is already covered with pollen. ;-)
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Berle
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 12:33 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FireStar 2 Kit Received !
Well, the used FS2 kit that I had purchased has arrived! I picked it up
form the Yellow Freight terminal (YRC nowdays) last night. Got it back
to my hangar, and was able to spend a couple of hours unpacking most of
it. I have not been able to do a full inventory, because I do not have a
full inventory sheet from Kolb. But I have a lot of various airplane
hardware floating around in my hangar :)
One of the chimpanzees involved somewhere in the shipping crushed two or
three small tubes in the horizontal stabilizers.
The fuselage cage had been hand-painted with white brush-on house paint
or something. I'm thankful for that, because there is only minor
corrosion in the form of brown stains in the white paint, and no serious
pitting. I will eventually have it blasted and re-primed or powder
coated. Any suggestions, warnings, or experience good or bad with powder
coating and steel priming is welcome.
The kit came with brownish-red plastic wheels and 15 x 6.00 x 6 tires.
Alumuinum gear legs, short windshield, one gas can. It is serial number
FS-636, the instruction manual is dated 1996.
The aluminum tube for the tailboom ("fuselage tube" in Kolb language)
had apparently been accidentally drilled for the wing ribs, because the
original builder did not realize the tubes were different. So I may be
able to salvage it, repair it, or plug the holes with "Dead" rivets. Or,
I may have to replace the tube.
I will be using 4 stroke power on this, as I have mentioned previously.
Dagwodzz has been very kind to spend some quality time with me on the
phone educating me about V-twins. Thank you Dagz! I am also looking at
the absolutely beautiful Pegasus Power O-100 engine from Pete Plumb in
California. I have seen this engine run in person and was very very
impressed.
If anyone can point me to specific articles or archives on this list
regarding technical errors in the plans or instructions, or common
problems building the FireStar, Again I am happy to hear about it.
I have several minor and medium size modifications and tweaks that I am
looking into on this airplane. Some of them are aerodynamic (raked tips,
VG's, etc.), some of them are engine related (4 stroke), and some of
them are mechanical (aircraft quality hardware and fasteners wherever
possible... I have this stuff laying around).
Glad to be a brand new, green, wet-behind-the-ears Kolber !
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and
for-profit entities
--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 3/15/16, Richard Girard wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: "kolb-list(at)matronics.com"
Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2016, 9:21 AM
you could also try
this. I've never used it, can't make a
recommendation.
https://www.zoro.com/3m-flexible-foam-nvh-08463/i/G0406463/?gdffi=047ad
a998cf641fa93e55ae8579df863&gdfms=5EA4232146CF4B229C255AAAF651CF33&gcli
d=CPW8-dyLw8sCFQYIaQodCZwIjw&gclsrc=aw.ds
Lots of Youtube videos about using urethane foam to fill tires, too,
but it doesn't remain flexible so it'll crush up over time and make a
mess in something like an aircraft tire.
Rick
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
at 1:08 PM, Bill Berle
wrote:
Bill Berle
Here's a potential game-changer solution right here...
http://www.goldspeedproducts.com/shop/tire-blocks/
These are foam inserts that allow you to run lower pressure and even
run safely when punctured flat.
I'll bet that these foam blocks weigh less than the three piece tire
iron set that was mentioned earlier, or the can of flat tire repair
goop :)
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com
- safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
www.grantstar.net
- winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 3/14/16, Larry Cottrell
wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: "kolb-list(at)matronics.com"
Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 10:37 AM
"
I
will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a tire
pump. Even on a certified172 I can take the wheel off the
airplane with a medium Crescent wrench, take the wheel apart
with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube or patch a
tire, and get it back together to fly back
home."
I just
carry a can of "spare tire" wrapped in bubble wrap
in the back of my plane.
Larry
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
at 10:56 AM, Bill Berle
wrote:
Bill Berle
Yes, I want to make it clear that I'm not trying to
hassle or trash-talk anyone or their product. I do prefer
not having to wrestle with someone just to get an answer to
my question, but regardless of the effort it takes to get
that answer my motives and agendas are positive and not
negative.
My situation is that I want to fly extreme-STOL up in the
mountains and desert. I've been scouting several
locations in my 172, and believe it or not most of them are
actually within 50 or 60 miles of the "big city"
limits. So it's not like I'm going out Grizzly bear
bow hunting in the Aleutian Islands or anything... but
it's still way too far for me to just "walk into
town" with a tire and wheel in my hands.
I will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a tire
pump. Even on a certified172 I can take the wheel off the
airplane with a medium Crescent wrench, take the wheel apart
with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube or patch a
tire, and get it back together to fly back home.
Bill Berle
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On Mon, 3/14/16, Richard Girard
wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: "kolb-list(at)matronics.com"
Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 9:29 AM
I have three metal
tire irons that I carry with me. Less than 1 lb. for the
set
and with a little water as lubricant they get the tire off
a
one piece wheel just fine. It's breaking the bead
that's the trick and for that I just use a hammer
with
one iron to get it started. It's not what I'd use
at
home, but we're talking stranded in the outback with
the
vultures circling. :-}
Rick Girard
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
at 9:16 AM, Charlie England
wrote:
Charlie England
The tires and wheels do look nice, and are likely a good
option if flying close to home.
However, it seems like you're missing his point.
He's talking about real 'bush' flying, away
from
airports & service facilities. With conventional 2
piece
wheels, you could break them down with simple hand tools
to
repair a flat, and a small hand pump to re-inflate. But
with
auto-style one piece wheels, it requires specialized
(heavy)
tools to break a tire down for repair. Not likely to be in
a
tool kit you can carry in a Kolb or other very light
a/c.
Charlie
On 3/13/2016 11:19 PM, Carolina Flyer wrote:
Flyer"
Bill, I use a cheap harbor freight device for putting
the
tires on, cost $49.95 I think.
Rick, The only tires that I sell are these that I have
pictures of and they fit on a 8 inch rims
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Rotax 670 DCDI
with a C-Box and
RK 400 Clutch
Challenger II
503 Tall Drive
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| From: | Bill Berle <victorbravo(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | Re: FireStar 2 Kit Received ! |
Thanks Rick,
I'm not taking it lightly. I have started to look at just what it would take to
adapt the O-100 engine, and yes it is completely different than the Rotax bed
mount built into the airframe.
I happen to be very fortunate in that I have a good infrastructure of structural
engineering, welding, machinists, and fabricators available to me. I could never
take this on without having built up that infrastructure.
I just know that I'm more comfortable with 4 stroke power, and I want the reliability/noise
benefits of those engines.
Bill Berle
March 08, 2016 - March 16, 2016
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