L29-Archive.digest.vol-aj
October 23, 2009 - November 05, 2010
Subject: Re: L29-List: L-29
No problems. Still the same "G" rating. However, due to the age of the
jets, most of us here have lowered them to 6/3. With the viper I can do
loops without diving to acclerate.
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: Jean de ROUBIN <mailto:delfin(at)mail.pf>
To: Bill Geipel
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 8:12 PM
Subject: L29-List: L-29
Hi, Bill
Do you have any problems with viper and aerobatic ? Is the
L-29 still +8 -4 with viper ?
Eaxctly. I know of no one that has rebalanced. At the
supersonic speeds that the L-29 flies at, it doesn't seem to be an
issue. Actually most of the reskinned rudders were just reinstalled and
life is good. My is reskinned and I cruise at 325 kts. (I love my
Viper!) No problems.
Jean de Roubin
B. P. 8455
98 703 - FAA'A
Polyn=C3=A9sie Fran=C3=A7aise
Tel : (+689)742620
Mail : delfin(at)mail.pf
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| From: | "Bill Geipel" <czech6(at)mesanetworks.net> |
I think it's a 540. 3400lbs. You can actually see the gauge moving
during taxi out. I would guess it's 200++ at tree top level. I flew
Dallas (actually Lancaster,TX) to Lamar, colorado, 485 miles non-stop.
95gph. 325 true. FL240.
Pete had called and said y'all got the viper bug. Lots 'O fun! Lot 'O
money.
I'm thinking of selling my Viper. I even have a spare engine if you know
anybody with a pocket full of cash.
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: SD737(at)aol.com
To: czech6(at)mesanetworks.net
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:31 PM
Subject: Hi Bill
Hey Bill,
Scott here in Reno.
Do you have the Viper 522 in your plane?
What is the real fuel burn per hour for a local flight?
What's the real fuel burn per hour if you go cross country?
Thanks for the info
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "John Cabrera" <propblast(at)earthlink.net> |
Bill,
I still don't have your e-mail.
John Cabrera. propblast(at)earthlink.net
From: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Geipel
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 5:31 AM
Subject: L29-List: Re: Hi Bill
I think it's a 540. 3400lbs. You can actually see the gauge moving during
taxi out. I would guess it's 200++ at tree top level. I flew Dallas
(actually Lancaster,TX) to Lamar, colorado, 485 miles non-stop. 95gph. 325
true. FL240.
Pete had called and said y'all got the viper bug. Lots 'O fun! Lot 'O money.
I'm thinking of selling my Viper. I even have a spare engine if you know
anybody with a pocket full of cash.
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: SD737(at)aol.com
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:31 PM
Subject: Hi Bill
Hey Bill,
Scott here in Reno.
Do you have the Viper 522 in your plane?
What is the real fuel burn per hour for a local flight?
What's the real fuel burn per hour if you go cross country?
Thanks for the info
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "David" <ainut(at)hiwaay.net> |
how much is a pocketful?
and is that 95 gph with the "viper" engine or the standard, which I
thought was about 120 gph?
David
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Geipel
To: SD737(at)aol.com ; l29-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 7:31 AM
Subject: L29-List: Re: Hi Bill
I think it's a 540. 3400lbs. You can actually see the gauge moving
during taxi out. I would guess it's 200++ at tree top level. I flew
Dallas (actually Lancaster,TX) to Lamar, colorado, 485 miles non-stop.
95gph. 325 true. FL240.
Pete had called and said y'all got the viper bug. Lots 'O fun! Lot 'O
money.
I'm thinking of selling my Viper. I even have a spare engine if you
know anybody with a pocket full of cash.
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: SD737(at)aol.com
To: czech6(at)mesanetworks.net
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:31 PM
Subject: Hi Bill
Hey Bill,
Scott here in Reno.
Do you have the Viper 522 in your plane?
What is the real fuel burn per hour for a local flight?
What's the real fuel burn per hour if you go cross country?
Thanks for the info
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Jean de ROUBIN <delfin(at)mail.pf> |
Bill, what could be the price ?
Le 23 oct. 2009 =E0 04:53, John Cabrera a =E9crit :
Bill,
I still don=92t have your e-mail.
John Cabrera. propblast(at)earthlink.net
From: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-l29-list-
server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Geipel
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 5:31 AM
Subject: L29-List: Re: Hi Bill
I think it's a 540. 3400lbs. You can actually see the gauge moving
during taxi out. I would guess it's 200++ at tree top level. I flew
Dallas (actually Lancaster,TX) to Lamar, colorado, 485 miles non-stop.
95gph. 325 true. FL240.
Pete had called and said y'all got the viper bug. Lots 'O fun! Lot 'O
money.
I'm thinking of selling my Viper. I even have a spare engine if you
know anybody with a pocket full of cash.
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: SD737(at)aol.com
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:31 PM
Subject: Hi Bill
Hey Bill,
Scott here in Reno.
Do you have the Viper 522 in your plane?
What is the real fuel burn per hour for a local flight?
What's the real fuel burn per hour if you go cross country?
Thanks for the info
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?L29-List
http://forums.matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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| From: | "Bill Geipel" <czech6(at)mesanetworks.net> |
Viper is 90 - 95 at FL240.
Stock enginen should be from 115 to 120. (If you have enough fuel to get
to FL240 and time!)
----- Original Message -----
From: David
To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: L29-List: Re: Hi Bill
how much is a pocketful?
and is that 95 gph with the "viper" engine or the standard, which I
thought was about 120 gph?
David
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Geipel
To: SD737(at)aol.com ; l29-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 7:31 AM
Subject: L29-List: Re: Hi Bill
I think it's a 540. 3400lbs. You can actually see the gauge moving
during taxi out. I would guess it's 200++ at tree top level. I flew
Dallas (actually Lancaster,TX) to Lamar, colorado, 485 miles non-stop.
95gph. 325 true. FL240.
Pete had called and said y'all got the viper bug. Lots 'O fun! Lot
'O money.
I'm thinking of selling my Viper. I even have a spare engine if you
know anybody with a pocket full of cash.
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: SD737(at)aol.com
To: czech6(at)mesanetworks.net
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:31 PM
Subject: Hi Bill
Hey Bill,
Scott here in Reno.
Do you have the Viper 522 in your plane?
What is the real fuel burn per hour for a local flight?
What's the real fuel burn per hour if you go cross country?
Thanks for the info
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| From: | "Bill Geipel" <czech6(at)mesanetworks.net> |
Taking offers. I also have a spare engine with only 1000 hrs. on it
(Over 3000 TBO)
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: David
To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: L29-List: Re: Hi Bill
how much is a pocketful?
and is that 95 gph with the "viper" engine or the standard, which I
thought was about 120 gph?
David
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Geipel
To: SD737(at)aol.com ; l29-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 7:31 AM
Subject: L29-List: Re: Hi Bill
I think it's a 540. 3400lbs. You can actually see the gauge moving
during taxi out. I would guess it's 200++ at tree top level. I flew
Dallas (actually Lancaster,TX) to Lamar, colorado, 485 miles non-stop.
95gph. 325 true. FL240.
Pete had called and said y'all got the viper bug. Lots 'O fun! Lot
'O money.
I'm thinking of selling my Viper. I even have a spare engine if you
know anybody with a pocket full of cash.
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: SD737(at)aol.com
To: czech6(at)mesanetworks.net
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:31 PM
Subject: Hi Bill
Hey Bill,
Scott here in Reno.
Do you have the Viper 522 in your plane?
What is the real fuel burn per hour for a local flight?
What's the real fuel burn per hour if you go cross country?
Thanks for the info
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| From: | "Jorgen Nielsen" <jorgen.nielsen(at)mweb.co.za> |
Hi Bill
What is burn / speed at FL195 / FL185? Any stats?
From: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Geipel
Sent: 24 October 2009 01:41 AM
Subject: Re: L29-List: Re: Hi Bill
Viper is 90 - 95 at FL240.
Stock enginen should be from 115 to 120. (If you have enough fuel to get to
FL240 and time!)
----- Original Message -----
From: David <mailto:ainut(at)hiwaay.net>
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: L29-List: Re: Hi Bill
how much is a pocketful?
and is that 95 gph with the "viper" engine or the standard, which I thought
was about 120 gph?
David
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill <mailto:czech6(at)mesanetworks.net> Geipel
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 7:31 AM
Subject: L29-List: Re: Hi Bill
I think it's a 540. 3400lbs. You can actually see the gauge moving during
taxi out. I would guess it's 200++ at tree top level. I flew Dallas
(actually Lancaster,TX) to Lamar, colorado, 485 miles non-stop. 95gph. 325
true. FL240.
Pete had called and said y'all got the viper bug. Lots 'O fun! Lot 'O money.
I'm thinking of selling my Viper. I even have a spare engine if you know
anybody with a pocket full of cash.
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: SD737(at)aol.com
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:31 PM
Subject: Hi Bill
Hey Bill,
Scott here in Reno.
Do you have the Viper 522 in your plane?
What is the real fuel burn per hour for a local flight?
What's the real fuel burn per hour if you go cross country?
Thanks for the info
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| From: | "Lasse Rungholm" <lr(at)opmas.dk> |
Hej drenge
Vores reservedele er p=E5 vej. De lander i denne uge med FedEx.
Jens foresl=E5r, at vi starter det =E5rlige eftersyn den 18.12.2009, og
s=E5 vil han fakturere os uden moms. Det har jeg sagt OK til.
Jeg fl=F8j 30 minutter i g=E5r. Fantastisk tur. Der ER alts=E5 noget med
enten speed brakes, der sl=E5r ud og lukker igen med det karakteristiske
"klap", n=E5r de lukker, eller ogs=E5 er der noget andet galt, for det
kom igen i g=E5r, og jeg sad helt stille og r=F8rte ingenting. M=E5ske
er det fart sensoren til automatikken?
Andre gode ideer? Har I oplevet det for nylig?
Best regards
OPMAS
Lasse Rungholm, CEO, Attorney at Law, ATP MEL, MES
lr(at)opmas.dk
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| From: | "Bill Geipel" <czech6(at)mesanetworks.net> |
| Subject: | Re: LSD eftersyn |
Exactly. I may have put it a little differently, but I agree???????????
----- Original Message -----
From: Lasse Rungholm
To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 3:10 AM
Subject: L29-List: LSD eftersyn
Hej drenge
Vores reservedele er p=E5 vej. De lander i denne uge med FedEx.
Jens foresl=E5r, at vi starter det =E5rlige eftersyn den 18.12.2009,
og s=E5 vil han fakturere os uden moms. Det har jeg sagt OK til.
Jeg fl=F8j 30 minutter i g=E5r. Fantastisk tur. Der ER alts=E5 noget
med enten speed brakes, der sl=E5r ud og lukker igen med det
karakteristiske "klap", n=E5r de lukker, eller ogs=E5 er der noget andet
galt, for det kom igen i g=E5r, og jeg sad helt stille og r=F8rte
ingenting. M=E5ske er det fart sensoren til automatikken?
Andre gode ideer? Har I oplevet det for nylig?
Best regards
OPMAS
Lasse Rungholm, CEO, Attorney at Law, ATP MEL, MES
lr(at)opmas.dk
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Fax: +45 70 20 00 61
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| From: | "Lasse Rungholm" <lr(at)opmas.dk> |
Sorry list guys
Wrong recipient(s) obviously...
Actually some of you may be able to help. I am writing my co owners of
our L29 OY-LSD re different things.
One thing is that apparently our speed brakes come out by themselves
some times. No one touches the buttons, speed is low and then suddenly
the light comes on (if you see it - maybe it doesn't all the times) and
you can hear the ordinary "clap" when they close.
Anyone?
Best regards
OPMAS
Lasse Rungholm, CEO, Attorney at Law, ATP MEL, MES
lr(at)opmas.dk
__________________________
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Fax: +45 70 20 00 61
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Fra: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com p=E5 vegne af Bill Geipel
Sendt: ma 26-10-2009 11:14
Til: l29-list(at)matronics.com
Emne: Re: L29-List: LSD eftersyn
Exactly. I may have put it a little differently, but I agree???????????
----- Original Message -----
From: Lasse Rungholm <mailto:lr(at)opmas.dk>
To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 3:10 AM
Subject: L29-List: LSD eftersyn
Hej drenge
Vores reservedele er p=E5 vej. De lander i denne uge med FedEx.
Jens foresl=E5r, at vi starter det =E5rlige eftersyn den 18.12.2009, og
s=E5 vil han fakturere os uden moms. Det har jeg sagt OK til.
Jeg fl=F8j 30 minutter i g=E5r. Fantastisk tur. Der ER alts=E5 noget
med enten speed brakes, der sl=E5r ud og lukker igen med det
karakteristiske "klap", n=E5r de lukker, eller ogs=E5 er der noget andet
galt, for det kom igen i g=E5r, og jeg sad helt stille og r=F8rte
ingenting. M=E5ske er det fart sensoren til automatikken?
Andre gode ideer? Har I oplevet det for nylig?
Best regards
OPMAS
Lasse Rungholm, CEO, Attorney at Law, ATP MEL, MES
lr(at)opmas.dk
__________________________
Tel.: +45 70 20 00 51
Fax: +45 70 20 00 61
OPM Aviation Services ApS
EU VAT DK25208463
Soenderborggade 9
DK-8000 Aarhus C
Denmark
6th. VAT TACTICAL WING
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| From: | Colyergreg(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: LSD eftersyn |
Your hydraulic pump is going out.........it will slowly get worse,
Greg
In a message dated 10/26/2009 4:52:37 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
lr(at)opmas.dk writes:
Sorry list guys
Wrong recipient(s) obviously...
Actually some of you may be able to help. I am writing my co owners of ou
r
L29 OY-LSD re different things.
One thing is that apparently our speed brakes come out by themselves some
times. No one touches the buttons, speed is low and then suddenly the lig
ht
comes on (if you see it - maybe it doesn't all the times) and you can hea
r
the ordinary "clap" when they close.
Anyone?
Best regards
OPMAS
Lasse Rungholm, CEO, Attorney at Law, ATP MEL, MES
lr(at)opmas.dk
__________________________
Tel.: +45 70 20 00 51
Fax: +45 70 20 00 61
OPM Aviation Services ApS
EU VAT DK25208463
Soenderborggade 9
DK-8000 Aarhus C
Denmark
6th. VAT TACTICAL WING
www.opmas.dk <http://www.opmas.dk/>
The information and opinions contained in this e-mail are for general
information purposes, are not intended to constitute legal or other
professional advice, and should not be relied on or treated as a
substitute for specific advice relevant to particular circumstances.
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________________________________
Fra: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com p=E5 vegne af Bill Geipel
Sendt: ma 26-10-2009 11:14
Til: l29-list(at)matronics.com
Emne: Re: L29-List: LSD eftersyn
Exactly. I may have put it a little differently, but I agree???????????
----- Original Message -----
From: Lasse Rungholm <mailto:lr(at)opmas.dk>
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 3:10 AM
Subject: L29-List: LSD eftersyn
Hej drenge
Vores reservedele er p=E5 vej. De lander i denne uge med FedEx.
Jens foresl=E5r, at vi starter det =E5rlige eftersyn den 18.12.2009, og
s=E5 vil
han fakturere os uden moms. Det har jeg sagt OK til.
Jeg fl=F8j 30 minutter i g=E5r. Fantastisk tur. Der ER alts=E5 noget med
enten
speed brakes, der sl=E5r ud og lukker igen med det karakteristiske "klap",
n=E5r
de lukker, eller ogs=E5 er der noget andet galt, for det kom igen i g=E5r,
og
jeg sad helt stille og r=F8rte ingenting. M=E5ske er det fart sensoren til
automatikken?
Andre gode ideer? Har I oplevet det for nylig?
Best regards
OPMAS
Lasse Rungholm, CEO, Attorney at Law, ATP MEL, MES
lr(at)opmas.dk
__________________________
Tel.: +45 70 20 00 51
Fax: +45 70 20 00 61
OPM Aviation Services ApS
EU VAT DK25208463
Soenderborggade 9
DK-8000 Aarhus C
Denmark
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| From: | Colyergreg(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: LSD eftersyn |
Also make sure you Hydraulic res is full as well. I had the same proble
m
in my L29 and thought it was some type of electrical bug..but slowly it
got worse until my flaps would only work above 75% rpm. New pump fixed
everything. It just happened to another L-29 I fly and we changed the pu
mp out
and all fixed...
In a message dated 10/26/2009 5:34:24 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
Colyergreg(at)aol.com writes:
Your hydraulic pump is going out.........it will slowly get worse,
Greg
In a message dated 10/26/2009 4:52:37 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
lr(at)opmas.dk writes:
Sorry list guys
Wrong recipient(s) obviously...
Actually some of you may be able to help. I am writing my co owners of ou
r
L29 OY-LSD re different things.
One thing is that apparently our speed brakes come out by themselves some
times. No one touches the buttons, speed is low and then suddenly the lig
ht
comes on (if you see it - maybe it doesn't all the times) and you can hea
r
the ordinary "clap" when they close.
Anyone?
Best regards
OPMAS
Lasse Rungholm, CEO, Attorney at Law, ATP MEL, MES
lr(at)opmas.dk
__________________________
Tel.: +45 70 20 00 51
Fax: +45 70 20 00 61
OPM Aviation Services ApS
EU VAT DK25208463
Soenderborggade 9
DK-8000 Aarhus C
Denmark
6th. VAT TACTICAL WING
www.opmas.dk <http://www.opmas.dk/>
The information and opinions contained in this e-mail are for general
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substitute for specific advice relevant to particular circumstances.
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________________________________
Fra: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com p=E5 vegne af Bill Geipel
Sendt: ma 26-10-2009 11:14
Til: l29-list(at)matronics.com
Emne: Re: L29-List: LSD eftersyn
Exactly. I may have put it a little differently, but I agree???????????
----- Original Message -----
From: Lasse Rungholm <mailto:lr(at)opmas.dk>
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 3:10 AM
Subject: L29-List: LSD eftersyn
Hej drenge
Vores reservedele er p=E5 vej. De lander i denne uge med FedEx.
Jens foresl=E5r, at vi starter det =E5rlige eftersyn den 18.12.2009, og
s=E5 vil
han fakturere os uden moms. Det har jeg sagt OK til.
Jeg fl=F8j 30 minutter i g=E5r. Fantastisk tur. Der ER alts=E5 noget med
enten
speed brakes, der sl=E5r ud og lukker igen med det karakteristiske "klap"
, n=E5r
de lukker, eller ogs=E5 er der noget andet galt, for det kom igen i g=E5r
, og
jeg sad helt stille og r=F8rte ingenting. M=E5ske er det fart sensoren ti
l
automatikken?
Andre gode ideer? Har I oplevet det for nylig?
Best regards
OPMAS
Lasse Rungholm, CEO, Attorney at Law, ATP MEL, MES
lr(at)opmas.dk
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| From: | "Jorgen Nielsen" <jorgen.nielsen(at)mweb.co.za> |
I have a related question:
If one operates the hydraulic release (Left console) where does the
released
hydraulic fluid go to?
Also, when checking level of hydraulic fluid, do you guys release the
pressure first somehow? Otherwise one need to put a towel over the cap
when
releasing or you become showered with fluid!
From: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Colyergreg(at)aol.com
Sent: 26 October 2009 02:46 PM
Subject: Re: SV: L29-List: LSD eftersyn
Also make sure you Hydraulic res is full as well. I had the same
problem
in my L29 and thought it was some type of electrical bug..but slowly it
got
worse until my flaps would only work above 75% rpm. New pump fixed
everything. It just happened to another L-29 I fly and we changed the
pump
out and all fixed...
In a message dated 10/26/2009 5:34:24 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
Colyergreg(at)aol.com writes:
Your hydraulic pump is going out.........it will slowly get worse,
Greg
In a message dated 10/26/2009 4:52:37 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
lr(at)opmas.dk writes:
Sorry list guys
Wrong recipient(s) obviously...
Actually some of you may be able to help. I am writing my co owners of
our
L29 OY-LSD re different things.
One thing is that apparently our speed brakes come out by themselves
some
times. No one touches the buttons, speed is low and then suddenly the
light
comes on (if you see it - maybe it doesn't all the times) and you can
hear
the ordinary "clap" when they close.
Anyone?
Best regards
OPMAS
Lasse Rungholm, CEO, Attorney at Law, ATP MEL, MES
lr(at)opmas.dk
__________________________
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Fax: +45 70 20 00 61
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Fra: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com p=E5 vegne af Bill Geipel
Sendt: ma 26-10-2009 11:14
Til: l29-list(at)matronics.com
Emne: Re: L29-List: LSD eftersyn
Exactly. I may have put it a little differently, but I agree???????????
----- Original Message -----
From: Lasse Rungholm <mailto:lr(at)opmas.dk>
To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 3:10 AM
Subject: L29-List: LSD eftersyn
Hej drenge
Vores reservedele er p=E5 vej. De lander i denne uge med FedEx.
Jens foresl=E5r, at vi starter det =E5rlige eftersyn den 18.12.2009,
og s=E5
vil han fakturere os uden moms. Det har jeg sagt OK til.
Jeg fl=F8j 30 minutter i g=E5r. Fantastisk tur. Der ER alts=E5 noget
med enten
speed brakes, der sl=E5r ud og lukker igen med det karakteristiske
"klap", n=E5r
de lukker, eller ogs=E5 er der noget andet galt, for det kom igen i
g=E5r, og
jeg sad helt stille og r=F8rte ingenting. M=E5ske er det fart sensoren
til
automatikken?
Andre gode ideer? Har I oplevet det for nylig?
Best regards
OPMAS
Lasse Rungholm, CEO, Attorney at Law, ATP MEL, MES
lr(at)opmas.dk
__________________________
Tel.: +45 70 20 00 51
Fax: +45 70 20 00 61
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| From: | colyergreg(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: LSD eftersyn |
It stays in the system....
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 26, 2009, at 6:25 AM, "Jorgen Nielsen"
wrote:
> I have a related question:
>
>
> If one operates the hydraulic release (Left console) where does the
> released hydraulic fluid go to?
>
>
> Also, when checking level of hydraulic fluid, do you guys release
> the pressure first somehow? Otherwise one need to put a towel over
> the cap when releasing or you become showered with fluid!
>
>
> From: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-l29-list-
> server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Colyergreg(at)aol.com
> Sent: 26 October 2009 02:46 PM
> To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: SV: L29-List: LSD eftersyn
>
>
> Also make sure you Hydraulic res is full as well. I had the same
> problem in my L29 and thought it was some type of electrical
> bug..but slowly it got worse until my flaps would only work above
> 75% rpm. New pump fixed everything. It just happened to another
> L-29 I fly and we changed the pump out and all fixed...
>
>
> In a message dated 10/26/2009 5:34:24 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, Colyer
greg(at)aol.com
> writes:
>
> Your hydraulic pump is going out.........it will slowly get worse,
>
>
> Greg
>
>
> In a message dated 10/26/2009 4:52:37 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, lr@opm
as.dk
> writes:
>
> Sorry list guys
>
> Wrong recipient(s) obviously...
>
> Actually some of you may be able to help. I am writing my co owners
> of our L29 OY-LSD re different things.
>
> One thing is that apparently our speed brakes come out by themselves
> some times. No one touches the buttons, speed is low and then
> suddenly the light comes on (if you see it - maybe it doesn't all
> the times) and you can hear the ordinary "clap" when they close.
>
> Anyone?
>
> Best regards
> OPMAS
>
> Lasse Rungholm, CEO, Attorney at Law, ATP MEL, MES
> lr(at)opmas.dk
>
> __________________________
> Tel.: +45 70 20 00 51
> Fax: +45 70 20 00 61
>
> OPM Aviation Services ApS
> EU VAT DK25208463
> Soenderborggade 9
> DK-8000 Aarhus C
> Denmark
>
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> ________________________________
>
> Fra: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com p=C3=A5 vegne af Bill Geipel
> Sendt: ma 26-10-2009 11:14
> Til: l29-list(at)matronics.com
> Emne: Re: L29-List: LSD eftersyn
>
>
> Exactly. I may have put it a little differently, but I
> agree???????????
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Lasse Rungholm <mailto:lr(at)opmas.dk>
> To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 3:10 AM
> Subject: L29-List: LSD eftersyn
>
> Hej drenge
>
> Vores reservedele er p=C3=A5 vej. De lander i denne uge med FedEx.
>
> Jens foresl=C3=A5r, at vi starter det =C3=A5rlige eftersyn den 18.12
.2009,
> og s=C3=A5 vil han fakturere os uden moms. Det har jeg sagt OK til.
>
> Jeg fl=C3=B8j 30 minutter i g=C3=A5r. Fantastisk tur. Der ER alts=C3
=A5 noget
> med enten speed brakes, der sl=C3=A5r ud og lukker igen med det karakter
i
> stiske "klap", n=C3=A5r de lukker, eller ogs=C3=A5 er der noget andet ga
lt, fo
> r det kom igen i g=C3=A5r, og jeg sad helt stille og r=C3=B8rte ingentin
g.
> M=C3=A5ske er det fart sensoren til automatikken?
>
> Andre gode ideer? Har I oplevet det for nylig?
>
> Best regards
> OPMAS
>
> Lasse Rungholm, CEO, Attorney at Law, ATP MEL, MES
> lr(at)opmas.dk
>
> __________________________
> Tel.: +45 70 20 00 51
> Fax: +45 70 20 00 61
>
> OPM Aviation Services ApS
> EU VAT DK25208463
> Soenderborggade 9
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> Denmark
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| From: | "Bill Geipel" <czech6(at)mesanetworks.net> |
| Subject: | Re: LSD eftersyn |
How about the speed sensor for the speed brakes?
----- Original Message -----
From: Colyergreg(at)aol.com
To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 6:33 AM
Subject: Re: SV: L29-List: LSD eftersyn
Your hydraulic pump is going out.........it will slowly get worse,
Greg
In a message dated 10/26/2009 4:52:37 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
lr(at)opmas.dk writes:
Sorry list guys
Wrong recipient(s) obviously...
Actually some of you may be able to help. I am writing my co owners
of our L29 OY-LSD re different things.
One thing is that apparently our speed brakes come out by themselves
some times. No one touches the buttons, speed is low and then suddenly
the light comes on (if you see it - maybe it doesn't all the times) and
you can hear the ordinary "clap" when they close.
Anyone?
Best regards
OPMAS
Lasse Rungholm, CEO, Attorney at Law, ATP MEL, MES
lr(at)opmas.dk
__________________________
Tel.: +45 70 20 00 51
Fax: +45 70 20 00 61
OPM Aviation Services ApS
EU VAT DK25208463
Soenderborggade 9
DK-8000 Aarhus C
Denmark
6th. VAT TACTICAL WING
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Fra: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com p=E5 vegne af Bill Geipel
Sendt: ma 26-10-2009 11:14
Til: l29-list(at)matronics.com
Emne: Re: L29-List: LSD eftersyn
Exactly. I may have put it a little differently, but I
agree???????????
----- Original Message -----
From: Lasse Rungholm <mailto:lr(at)opmas.dk>
To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 3:10 AM
Subject: L29-List: LSD eftersyn
Hej drenge
Vores reservedele er p=E5 vej. De lander i denne uge med FedEx.
Jens foresl=E5r, at vi starter det =E5rlige eftersyn den
18.12.2009, og s=E5 vil han fakturere os uden moms. Det har jeg sagt OK
til.
Jeg fl=F8j 30 minutter i g=E5r. Fantastisk tur. Der ER alts=E5
noget med enten speed brakes, der sl=E5r ud og lukker igen med det
karakteristiske "klap", n=E5r de lukker, eller ogs=E5 er der noget andet
galt, for det kom igen i g=E5r, og jeg sad helt stille og r=F8rte
ingenting. M=E5ske er det fart sensoren til automatikken?
Andre gode ideer? Har I oplevet det for nylig?
Best regards
OPMAS
Lasse Rungholm, CEO, Attorney at Law, ATP MEL, MES
lr(at)opmas.dk
__________________________
Tel.: +45 70 20 00 51
Fax: +45 70 20 00 61
OPM Aviation Services ApS
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| Subject: | Re: LSD eftersyn |
| From: | "Lasse Rungholm" <lr(at)opmas.dk> |
But how come the speed brakes come out if the pressure goes down? I
could understand it if they wouldnt stay out?
Best regards
OPMAS
Lasse Rungholm, CEO, Attorney at Law, ATP MEL, MES
lr(at)opmas.dk
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Fra: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com p=E5 vegne af
colyergreg(at)aol.com
Sendt: ma 26-10-2009 15:38
Til: l29-list(at)matronics.com
Emne: [Spam] Re: SV: L29-List: LSD eftersyn
It stays in the system....
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 26, 2009, at 6:25 AM, "Jorgen Nielsen"
wrote:
I have a related question:
If one operates the hydraulic release (Left console) where does the
released hydraulic fluid go to?
Also, when checking level of hydraulic fluid, do you guys release the
pressure first somehow? Otherwise one need to put a towel over the cap
when releasing or you become showered with fluid!
From: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Colyergreg(at)aol.com
Sent: 26 October 2009 02:46 PM
To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: SV: L29-List: LSD eftersyn
Also make sure you Hydraulic res is full as well. I had the same
problem in my L29 and thought it was some type of electrical bug..but
slowly it got worse until my flaps would only work above 75% rpm. New
pump fixed everything. It just happened to another L-29 I fly and we
changed the pump out and all fixed...
In a message dated 10/26/2009 5:34:24 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
Colyergreg(at)aol.com writes:
Your hydraulic pump is going out.........it will slowly get worse,
Greg
In a message dated 10/26/2009 4:52:37 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
lr(at)opmas.dk writes:
Sorry list guys
Wrong recipient(s) obviously...
Actually some of you may be able to help. I am writing my co owners
of our L29 OY-LSD re different things.
One thing is that apparently our speed brakes come out by themselves
some times. No one touches the buttons, speed is low and then suddenly
the light comes on (if you see it - maybe it doesn't all the times) and
you can hear the ordinary "clap" when they close.
Anyone?
Best regards
OPMAS
Lasse Rungholm, CEO, Attorney at Law, ATP MEL, MES
lr(at)opmas.dk
__________________________
Tel.: +45 70 20 00 51
Fax: +45 70 20 00 61
OPM Aviation Services ApS
EU VAT DK25208463
Soenderborggade 9
DK-8000 Aarhus C
Denmark
6th. VAT TACTICAL WING
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Fra: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com p=E5 vegne af Bill Geipel
Sendt: ma 26-10-2009 11:14
Til: l29-list(at)matronics.com
Emne: Re: L29-List: LSD eftersyn
Exactly. I may have put it a little differently, but I
agree???????????
----- Original Message -----
From: Lasse Rungholm <mailto:lr(at)opmas.dk>
To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 3:10 AM
Subject: L29-List: LSD eftersyn
Hej drenge
Vores reservedele er p=E5 vej. De lander i denne uge med FedEx.
Jens foresl=E5r, at vi starter det =E5rlige eftersyn den
18.12.2009, og s=E5 vil han fakturere os uden moms. Det har jeg sagt OK
til.
Jeg fl=F8j 30 minutter i g=E5r. Fantastisk tur. Der ER alts=E5
noget med enten speed brakes, der sl=E5r ud og lukker igen med det
karakteristiske "klap", n=E5r de lukker, eller ogs=E5 er der noget andet
galt, for det kom igen i g=E5r, og jeg sad helt stille og r=F8rte
ingenting. M=E5ske er det fart sensoren til automatikken?
Andre gode ideer? Har I oplevet det for nylig?
Best regards
OPMAS
Lasse Rungholm, CEO, Attorney at Law, ATP MEL, MES
lr(at)opmas.dk
__________________________
Tel.: +45 70 20 00 51
Fax: +45 70 20 00 61
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| From: | "Lasse Rungholm" <lr(at)opmas.dk> |
Thats what I am thinking. How does that really work?
Lasse
________________________________
Fra: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com p=E5 vegne af Bill Geipel
Sendt: ma 26-10-2009 15:31
Til: l29-list(at)matronics.com
Emne: Re: SV: L29-List: LSD eftersyn
How about the speed sensor for the speed brakes?
----- Original Message -----
From: Colyergreg(at)aol.com
To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 6:33 AM
Subject: Re: SV: L29-List: LSD eftersyn
Your hydraulic pump is going out.........it will slowly get worse,
Greg
In a message dated 10/26/2009 4:52:37 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
lr(at)opmas.dk writes:
Sorry list guys
Wrong recipient(s) obviously...
Actually some of you may be able to help. I am writing my co owners of
our L29 OY-LSD re different things.
One thing is that apparently our speed brakes come out by themselves
some times. No one touches the buttons, speed is low and then suddenly
the light comes on (if you see it - maybe it doesn't all the times) and
you can hear the ordinary "clap" when they close.
Anyone?
Best regards
OPMAS
Lasse Rungholm, CEO, Attorney at Law, ATP MEL, MES
lr(at)opmas.dk
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Fax: +45 70 20 00 61
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Fra: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com p=E5 vegne af Bill Geipel
Sendt: ma 26-10-2009 11:14
Til: l29-list(at)matronics.com
Emne: Re: L29-List: LSD eftersyn
Exactly. I may have put it a little differently, but I
agree???????????
----- Original Message -----
From: Lasse Rungholm <mailto:lr(at)opmas.dk>
To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 3:10 AM
Subject: L29-List: LSD eftersyn
Hej drenge
Vores reservedele er p=E5 vej. De lander i denne uge med FedEx.
Jens foresl=E5r, at vi starter det =E5rlige eftersyn den
18.12.2009, og s=E5 vil han fakturere os uden moms. Det har jeg sagt OK
til.
Jeg fl=F8j 30 minutter i g=E5r. Fantastisk tur. Der ER alts=E5
noget med enten speed brakes, der sl=E5r ud og lukker igen med det
karakteristiske "klap", n=E5r de lukker, eller ogs=E5 er der noget andet
galt, for det kom igen i g=E5r, og jeg sad helt stille og r=F8rte
ingenting. M=E5ske er det fart sensoren til automatikken?
Andre gode ideer? Har I oplevet det for nylig?
Best regards
OPMAS
Lasse Rungholm, CEO, Attorney at Law, ATP MEL, MES
lr(at)opmas.dk
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| From: | colyergreg(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: LSD eftersyn |
I don't know that one but I've known 3 '29s that had the same problem
and in all three it was the pump
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 26, 2009, at 7:55 AM, "Lasse Rungholm" wrote:
> But how come the speed brakes come out if the pressure goes down? I
> could understand it if they wouldnt stay out?
>
> Best regards
> OPMAS
>
> Lasse Rungholm, CEO, Attorney at Law, ATP MEL, MES
> lr(at)opmas.dk
>
> __________________________
> Tel.: +45 70 20 00 51
> Fax: +45 70 20 00 61
>
> OPM Aviation Services ApS
> EU VAT DK25208463
> Soenderborggade 9
> DK-8000 Aarhus C
> Denmark
>
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> www.opmas.dk <http://www.opmas.dk/>
>
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> please
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>
> Fra: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com p vegne af colyergreg(at)aol.
> com
> Sendt: ma 26-10-2009 15:38
> Til: l29-list(at)matronics.com
> Emne: [Spam] Re: SV: L29-List: LSD eftersyn
>
>
> It stays in the system....
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 26, 2009, at 6:25 AM, "Jorgen Nielsen" > wrote:
>
>
> I have a related question:
>
>
> If one operates the hydraulic release (Left console) where does
> the released hydraulic fluid go to?
>
>
> Also, when checking level of hydraulic fluid, do you guys release
> the pressure first somehow? Otherwise one need to put a towel over
> the cap when releasing or you become showered with fluid!
>
>
> From: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-l29-list-
> server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Colyergreg(at)aol.com
> Sent: 26 October 2009 02:46 PM
> To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: SV: L29-List: LSD eftersyn
>
>
> Also make sure you Hydraulic res is full as well. I had the
> same problem in my L29 and thought it was some type of electrical
> bug..but slowly it got worse until my flaps would only work above
> 75% rpm. New pump fixed everything. It just happened to another
> L-29 I fly and we changed the pump out and all fixed...
>
>
> In a message dated 10/26/2009 5:34:24 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, Colyergreg(at)aol.com
> writes:
>
> Your hydraulic pump is going out.........it will slowly get
> worse,
>
>
> Greg
>
>
> In a message dated 10/26/2009 4:52:37 A.M. Pacific Daylight
> Time, lr(at)opmas.dk writes:
>
> Sorry list guys
>
> Wrong recipient(s) obviously...
>
> Actually some of you may be able to help. I am writing my
> co owners of our L29 OY-LSD re different things.
>
> One thing is that apparently our speed brakes come out by
> themselves some times. No one touches the buttons, speed is low and
> then suddenly the light comes on (if you see it - maybe it doesn't
> all the times) and you can hear the ordinary "clap" when they close.
>
> Anyone?
>
> Best regards
> OPMAS
>
> Lasse Rungholm, CEO, Attorney at Law, ATP MEL, MES
> lr(at)opmas.dk
>
> __________________________
> Tel.: +45 70 20 00 51
> Fax: +45 70 20 00 61
>
> OPM Aviation Services ApS
> EU VAT DK25208463
> Soenderborggade 9
> DK-8000 Aarhus C
> Denmark
>
> 6th. VAT TACTICAL WING
> www.opmas.dk <http://www.opmas.dk/>
>
> The information and opinions contained in this e-mail are
> for general
> information purposes, are not intended to constitute
> legal or other
> professional advice, and should not be relied on or
> treated as a
> substitute for specific advice relevant to particular
> circumstances.
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> solely to provide
> general guidance for the personal use of the reader, who
> accepts full
> responsibility for its use. For a full set of Terms &
> Conditions - please
> check www.opmas.dk <http://www.opmas.dk/> >
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> Fra: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com p vegne af Bill
> Geipel
> Sendt: ma 26-10-2009 11:14
> Til: l29-list(at)matronics.com
> Emne: Re: L29-List: LSD eftersyn
>
>
> Exactly. I may have put it a little differently, but I
> agree???????????
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Lasse Rungholm <mailto:lr(at)opmas.dk>
> To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 3:10 AM
> Subject: L29-List: LSD eftersyn
>
> Hej drenge
>
> Vores reservedele er p vej. De lander i denne uge me
> d FedEx.
>
> Jens foreslr, at vi starter det rlige eftersyn den
> 18.12.2009, og s vil han fakturere os uden moms. Det har jeg sagt O
> K til.
>
> Jeg flj 30 minutter i gr. Fantastisk tur. Der ER al
> ts noget med enten speed brakes, der slr ud og lukker igen med det
> karakteristiske "klap", nr de lukker, eller ogs er der noget ande
> t galt, for det kom igen i gr, og jeg sad helt stille og rrte inge
> nting. Mske er det fart sensoren til automatikken?
>
> Andre gode ideer? Har I oplevet det for nylig?
>
> Best regards
> OPMAS
>
> Lasse Rungholm, CEO, Attorney at Law, ATP MEL, MES
> lr(at)opmas.dk
>
> __________________________
> Tel.: +45 70 20 00 51
> Fax: +45 70 20 00 61
>
> OPM Aviation Services ApS
> EU VAT DK25208463
> Soenderborggade 9
> DK-8000 Aarhus C
> Denmark
>
> 6th. VAT TACTICAL WING
> www.opmas.dk <http://www.opmas.dk/> >
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| Subject: | Re: LSD eftersyn |
| From: | "Bill Culberson" <bculberson(at)staraviation.com> |
I had the same problem with mine. Found the Speed sensor had a bad wire that would
ground and activate the speed brakes. Fixed the wiring, problem solved. I
also agree with Greg, if the reservoir is not dead full, you can loose hydraulic
functionality.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of colyergreg(at)aol.com
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: SV: [Spam] Re: SV: L29-List: LSD eftersyn
I don't know that one but I've known 3 '29s that had the same problem
and in all three it was the pump
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 26, 2009, at 7:55 AM, "Lasse Rungholm" wrote:
> But how come the speed brakes come out if the pressure goes down? I
> could understand it if they wouldnt stay out?
>
> Best regards
> OPMAS
>
> Lasse Rungholm, CEO, Attorney at Law, ATP MEL, MES
> lr(at)opmas.dk
>
> __________________________
> Tel.: +45 70 20 00 51
> Fax: +45 70 20 00 61
>
> OPM Aviation Services ApS
> EU VAT DK25208463
> Soenderborggade 9
> DK-8000 Aarhus C
> Denmark
>
> 6th. VAT TACTICAL WING
> www.opmas.dk <http://www.opmas.dk/>
>
> The information and opinions contained in this e-mail are for general
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> responsibility for its use. For a full set of Terms & Conditions -
> please
> check www.opmas.dk <http://www.opmas.dk/>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> Fra: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com p vegne af colyergreg(at)aol.
> com
> Sendt: ma 26-10-2009 15:38
> Til: l29-list(at)matronics.com
> Emne: [Spam] Re: SV: L29-List: LSD eftersyn
>
>
> It stays in the system....
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 26, 2009, at 6:25 AM, "Jorgen Nielsen" > wrote:
>
>
> I have a related question:
>
>
> If one operates the hydraulic release (Left console) where does
> the released hydraulic fluid go to?
>
>
> Also, when checking level of hydraulic fluid, do you guys release
> the pressure first somehow? Otherwise one need to put a towel over
> the cap when releasing or you become showered with fluid!
>
>
> From: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-l29-list-
> server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Colyergreg(at)aol.com
> Sent: 26 October 2009 02:46 PM
> To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: SV: L29-List: LSD eftersyn
>
>
> Also make sure you Hydraulic res is full as well. I had the
> same problem in my L29 and thought it was some type of electrical
> bug..but slowly it got worse until my flaps would only work above
> 75% rpm. New pump fixed everything. It just happened to another
> L-29 I fly and we changed the pump out and all fixed...
>
>
> In a message dated 10/26/2009 5:34:24 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, Colyergreg(at)aol.com
> writes:
>
> Your hydraulic pump is going out.........it will slowly get
> worse,
>
>
> Greg
>
>
> In a message dated 10/26/2009 4:52:37 A.M. Pacific Daylight
> Time, lr(at)opmas.dk writes:
>
> Sorry list guys
>
> Wrong recipient(s) obviously...
>
> Actually some of you may be able to help. I am writing my
> co owners of our L29 OY-LSD re different things.
>
> One thing is that apparently our speed brakes come out by
> themselves some times. No one touches the buttons, speed is low and
> then suddenly the light comes on (if you see it - maybe it doesn't
> all the times) and you can hear the ordinary "clap" when they close.
>
> Anyone?
>
> Best regards
> OPMAS
>
> Lasse Rungholm, CEO, Attorney at Law, ATP MEL, MES
> lr(at)opmas.dk
>
> __________________________
> Tel.: +45 70 20 00 51
> Fax: +45 70 20 00 61
>
> OPM Aviation Services ApS
> EU VAT DK25208463
> Soenderborggade 9
> DK-8000 Aarhus C
> Denmark
>
> 6th. VAT TACTICAL WING
> www.opmas.dk <http://www.opmas.dk/>
>
> The information and opinions contained in this e-mail are
> for general
> information purposes, are not intended to constitute
> legal or other
> professional advice, and should not be relied on or
> treated as a
> substitute for specific advice relevant to particular
> circumstances.
> The information contained in this e-mail is intended
> solely to provide
> general guidance for the personal use of the reader, who
> accepts full
> responsibility for its use. For a full set of Terms &
> Conditions - please
> check www.opmas.dk <http://www.opmas.dk/> >
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> Fra: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com p vegne af Bill
> Geipel
> Sendt: ma 26-10-2009 11:14
> Til: l29-list(at)matronics.com
> Emne: Re: L29-List: LSD eftersyn
>
>
> Exactly. I may have put it a little differently, but I
> agree???????????
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Lasse Rungholm <mailto:lr(at)opmas.dk>
> To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 3:10 AM
> Subject: L29-List: LSD eftersyn
>
> Hej drenge
>
> Vores reservedele er p vej. De lander i denne uge me
> d FedEx.
>
> Jens foreslr, at vi starter det rlige eftersyn den
> 18.12.2009, og s vil han fakturere os uden moms. Det har jeg sagt O
> K til.
>
> Jeg flj 30 minutter i gr. Fantastisk tur. Der ER al
> ts noget med enten speed brakes, der slr ud og lukker igen med det
> karakteristiske "klap", nr de lukker, eller ogs er der noget ande
> t galt, for det kom igen i gr, og jeg sad helt stille og rrte inge
> nting. Mske er det fart sensoren til automatikken?
>
> Andre gode ideer? Har I oplevet det for nylig?
>
> Best regards
> OPMAS
>
> Lasse Rungholm, CEO, Attorney at Law, ATP MEL, MES
> lr(at)opmas.dk
>
> __________________________
> Tel.: +45 70 20 00 51
> Fax: +45 70 20 00 61
>
> OPM Aviation Services ApS
> EU VAT DK25208463
> Soenderborggade 9
> DK-8000 Aarhus C
> Denmark
>
> 6th. VAT TACTICAL WING
> www.opmas.dk <http://www.opmas.dk/> >
>
> The information and opinions contained in this e-mail
> are for general
> information purposes, are not intended to constitute
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> professional advice, and should not be relied on or
> treated as a
> substitute for specific advice relevant to particular
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| From: | "Jorgen Nielsen" <jorgen.nielsen(at)mweb.co.za> |
There is a sensor in the machmeter (please confirm someone - I have seen
also the ASI) that closes when limiting mach number is reached. This then
triggers the speed brakes in the same way if manually deployed.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lasse Rungholm
Sent: 26 October 2009 05:25 PM
Subject: SV: SV: L29-List: LSD eftersyn
Thats what I am thinking. How does that really work?
Lasse
________________________________
Fra: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com p vegne af Bill Geipel
Sendt: ma 26-10-2009 15:31
Til: l29-list(at)matronics.com
Emne: Re: SV: L29-List: LSD eftersyn
How about the speed sensor for the speed brakes?
----- Original Message -----
From: Colyergreg(at)aol.com
To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 6:33 AM
Subject: Re: SV: L29-List: LSD eftersyn
Your hydraulic pump is going out.........it will slowly get worse,
Greg
In a message dated 10/26/2009 4:52:37 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
lr(at)opmas.dk writes:
Sorry list guys
Wrong recipient(s) obviously...
Actually some of you may be able to help. I am writing my co
owners of our L29 OY-LSD re different things.
One thing is that apparently our speed brakes come out by
themselves some times. No one touches the buttons, speed is low and then
suddenly the light comes on (if you see it - maybe it doesn't all the times)
and you can hear the ordinary "clap" when they close.
Anyone?
Best regards
OPMAS
Lasse Rungholm, CEO, Attorney at Law, ATP MEL, MES
lr(at)opmas.dk
__________________________
Tel.: +45 70 20 00 51
Fax: +45 70 20 00 61
OPM Aviation Services ApS
EU VAT DK25208463
Soenderborggade 9
DK-8000 Aarhus C
Denmark
6th. VAT TACTICAL WING
www.opmas.dk <http://www.opmas.dk/>
The information and opinions contained in this e-mail are
for general
information purposes, are not intended to constitute legal
or other
professional advice, and should not be relied on or treated
as a
substitute for specific advice relevant to particular
circumstances.
The information contained in this e-mail is intended solely
to provide
general guidance for the personal use of the reader, who
accepts full
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Conditions - please
check www.opmas.dk <http://www.opmas.dk/>
________________________________
Fra: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com p vegne af Bill
Geipel
Sendt: ma 26-10-2009 11:14
Til: l29-list(at)matronics.com
Emne: Re: L29-List: LSD eftersyn
Exactly. I may have put it a little differently, but I
agree???????????
----- Original Message -----
From: Lasse Rungholm <mailto:lr(at)opmas.dk>
To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 3:10 AM
Subject: L29-List: LSD eftersyn
Hej drenge
Vores reservedele er p vej. De lander i denne uge med
FedEx.
Jens foreslr, at vi starter det rlige eftersyn den
18.12.2009, og s vil han fakturere os uden moms. Det har jeg sagt OK til.
Jeg flj 30 minutter i gr. Fantastisk tur. Der ER alts
noget med enten speed brakes, der slr ud og lukker igen med det
karakteristiske "klap", nr de lukker, eller ogs er der noget andet galt,
for det kom igen i gr, og jeg sad helt stille og rrte ingenting. Mske er
det fart sensoren til automatikken?
Andre gode ideer? Har I oplevet det for nylig?
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| Subject: | Re: LSD eftersyn |
| From: | Jean de ROUBIN <delfin(at)mail.pf> |
Speed brakes are suppose to open when speed excess M 0,7. You should
look in this system in connection with machmeter.
Jean de Roubin
Le 26 oct. 2009 01:48, Lasse Rungholm a crit :
Sorry list guys
Wrong recipient(s) obviously...
Actually some of you may be able to help. I am writing my co owners of
our L29 OY-LSD re different things.
One thing is that apparently our speed brakes come out by themselves
some times. No one touches the buttons, speed is low and then suddenly
the light comes on (if you see it - maybe it doesn't all the times)
and you can hear the ordinary "clap" when they close.
Anyone?
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Fra: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com p vegne af Bill Geipel
Sendt: ma 26-10-2009 11:14
Til: l29-list(at)matronics.com
Emne: Re: L29-List: LSD eftersyn
Exactly. I may have put it a little differently, but I agree???????????
----- Original Message -----
From: Lasse Rungholm <mailto:lr(at)opmas.dk>
To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 3:10 AM
Subject: L29-List: LSD eftersyn
Hej drenge
Vores reservedele er p vej. De lander i denne uge med FedEx.
Jens foreslr, at vi starter det rlige eftersyn den 18.12.2009, og
s vil han fakturere os uden moms. Det har jeg sagt OK til.
Jeg flj 30 minutter i gr. Fantastisk tur. Der ER alts noget med
enten speed brakes, der slr ud og lukker igen med det karakteristiske
"klap", nr de lukker, eller ogs er der noget andet galt, for det kom
igen i gr, og jeg sad helt stille og rrte ingenting. Mske er det
fart sensoren til automatikken?
Andre gode ideer? Har I oplevet det for nylig?
Best regards
OPMAS
Lasse Rungholm, CEO, Attorney at Law, ATP MEL, MES
lr(at)opmas.dk
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | PLEASE READ - Matronics Email List Fund Raiser During November! |
Dear Listers,
Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operation and upgrade of the List services at Matronics. It's solely through the Contributions of List members that these Matronics Lists are possible. There is NO advertising to support the Lists. You might have noticed the conspicuous lack of flashing banners and annoying pop-ups on the Matronics Email List email messages and web site pages such as the Matronics List Forums ( http://forums.matronics.com ), the List Wiki ( http://wiki.matronics.com), or other related pages such as the List Search Engine ( http://www.matronics.com/search ), the List Browser ( http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse ), etc. This is because I believe in a List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely Airplanes and not about annoying advertisements.
During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every couple of
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | November List Fund Raiser |
A couple of years ago I implemented an automatic "squelch button" of sorts for
the Fund Raiser messages. Here's how it works... As soon as a List member makes
a Contribution through the Matronics Fund Raiser web site, he or she will
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Dear Listers,
Just a quick reminder that November is the annual List Fund Raiser. The Matronics
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists |
Dear Listers,
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The operation is supported 100% by your personal Contributions during the November
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Fund Raiser List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution |
Today!
Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | List Fund Raiser |
Dear Listers,
Just a reminder that November is the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser month. There
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Some Very Nice Comments... |
Dear Listers,
I've been getting some really nice comments from Listers along with their List
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| From: | Jon Boede <jonboede(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | History of L-29 in Bulgaria |
Ivan visited the Cold War Air Museum a few weekends back. He's been nice e
nough to join our blog crew and wrote a very interesting article on the his
tory of the L-29 in Bulgaria.
http://blog.cwam.org/2009/11/history-of-l-29-in-bulgaria.html
Jon
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Contributions Down By 21%... |
Dear Listers,
As of today, contributions to the Matronics List Fund Raiser are lagging behind
last year at this time by 21%. I have a fund raiser each year simply to cover
my operating costs for the Lists. I *do not* accept any advertising income
to support the Lists and rely solely on the contributions of members to keep the
expenses paid.
I run all of my own servers and they are housed here locally, and the Internet
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data so that in the event of a server crash or worse, all of the Lists and
the many years of List archive data could be restored onto a new server in a matter
of hours.
All of this costs a fair amount of money, not to mention a significant amount of
my personal time as well. I have a Fund Raiser each year to cover these costs
and I ask that members that feel they receive a benefit from my investments,
make a modest contribution each year to support the continued operation and
upgrade of these services.
If you enjoy the Lists, please make a contribution today. I also offer some incentive
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Thank you for your support!
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | What's My Contribution Used For? |
Dear Listers,
Some have asked, "What's my Contribution used for?" and that's a good question.
Here are just a few examples of what your direct List support enables. It provides
for the very expensive, commercial-grade T1 Internet connection used on
the List insuring maximum performance and minimal contention when accessing List
services. It pays for the regular system hardware and software upgrades enabling
the highest performance possible for services such as the Archive Search
Engine, List Browser, and Forums. It pays for narly 20 years (yeah, I really
said *20* years) worth of online archive data available for instant random search
and access. And, it offsets the many hours spent writing, developing, and
maintaining the custom applications that power this List Service such as the List
Browse, Search Engine, Forums, and Wiki.
But most importantly, your List Contribution enables a forum where you and your
peers can communicate freely in an environment that is free from moderation,
censorship, advertising, commercialism, SPAM, and computer viruses. How many places
on the Internet can you make all those statements these days?
It is YOUR CONTRIBUTION that directly enables these many aspects of these valuable
List services. Please support it today with your List Contribution. Its one
of the best investments you can make in your Sport...
List Contribution Web Site:
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Thank you for your support!
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just A Few Days Left; Still Trailing Last Year... |
Dear Listers,
There are just a few more days left of this year's List Fund Raiser! Response
has been very good, but still well behind last year. If you've been waiting until
the last minute to make your contribution and maybe even pick up a great
gift, now might be good time to show your support!
Please remember that there isn't any sort of commercial advertising on the Lists
and the *only* means of keeping these Lists running is through your Contributions
during this Fund Raiser.
Please make a Contribution today!
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published in |
December!
Dear Listers,
The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a
list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists.
Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists
is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
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Livermore CA 94551-0347
USA
(Please include your email address on the check!)
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps
these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment
about how the Lists have helped you!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just A Few More Days To Make Your List Contribution... |
There is less than a week left in this year's List Fund Raiser and only a few short
days to grab one of the great Contribution Gifts available this year. Support
is still significantly lagging behind last year at this point but hopefully
it will pick up here towards the end. Please remember that it is solely the
Contributions of List members that keeps the Lists up and running as there
is no commercialism or advertising on the Matronics Lists and Forums.
The List Contribution web site is secure, fast, and easy and you can use a credit
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I want to thank everyone that has already made a generous contribution to support
the Lists!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | What Are You Thankful For...? |
Dear Listers,
Here in the United States, Thursday is our National day of Thanksgiving. Many
of us will be traveling to be with our families and friends to share in generous
feasts of plenty and giving thanks for many blessings that have been bestowed
upon us.
Many Listers have expressed over the last couple of weeks how thankful they are
for the Email Lists and Forums here on the Matronics servers and for all of the
assistance and comradery they have experienced being a part of the Lists.
One of my favorite comments is when someone writes to me and says something like,
"Its the first thing I do in the morning while I'm having my morning coffee!".
That's a wonderful tribute to the purpose and function of these Lists.
Its always great to hear I'm not the only one that jumps out of bed each morning
to check my List email!!
Won't you take a minute today and show your appreciation for these Lists and for
their continued operation and upgrade?
The List Contribution Site is:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you in advance for your kind consideration,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | No "Black Friday" For List Fund Raiser... |
Even though the number of List subscriptions and List posts are up significantly
this year compared to last year, support during this year's List Fund Raiser
has been woefully lagging from last year. There are only a couple more days
left in November and the end of the Fund Raiser is quickly approaching.
I have always preferred a non-commercial List experience as many, many members
have also expressed that they do as well. However, if the yearly fund raiser
cannot generate sufficient funds to keep the bills paid on the List service expenses,
I will have to look into some sort of advertising. Please don't let that
happen!
Your personal contribution of $20 or $30 goes a long ways to keeping the operation
a float. The lunch combo at Carl's Jr costs nearly $10 these days. Isn't
the List worth at least as much as a couple of burgers?
Please make sure your name is on this year's List of Contributors published in
December. The Contribution site is secure, quick, and easy:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you in advance for your support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just Two More Days Left; Fund Raiser Behind By 12%... |
Dear Listers,
This year's List Fund Raiser is still trailing last year by a 12% margin. If you
like the ad-free environment that is the Matronics Email List and Forum experience,
please make a quick Contribution to keep it that way!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
I've been getting a ton of really nice comments from Contributors regarding the
Lists. Please read over some of them below and see if they don't resonate with
you as well.
Thank you in advance for your generous contribution to support these Lists!
Matt Dralle
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| Subject: | [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser! |
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| From: | "Jorgen Nielsen" <jorgen.nielsen(at)mweb.co.za> |
Hi all
Ernie, you still on this list?
Regards Jorgen
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| From: | delfin <l29delfin(at)yahoo.com> |
I am looking for a new landing light complete assembly for the L-29=0A=0APa
rt LFSV-45-- =0A=0APlease contact me off line if you have one for sale
and the price. Thanks=0A-=0ABob Schwartz=0A=0A=0A
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Neville Cameron" <ncam(at)wave.co.nz> |
no joy.
Neville
----- Original Message -----
From: delfin
To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 9:00 AM
I am looking for a new landing light complete assembly for the L-29
Part LFSV-45
Please contact me off line if you have one for sale and the price.
Thanks
Bob Schwartz
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
02/12/10 07:35:00
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Bill Culberson" <bculberson(at)staraviation.com> |
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________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | VS: LOADMASTERS L29 Info |
| From: | "Lasse Rungholm" <lr(at)opmas.dk> |
Hej
Duer dette?
Best regards
OPMAS
Lasse Rungholm, CEO, Attorney at Law, ATP MEL, MES
lr(at)opmas.dk
__________________________
Tel.: +45 70 20 00 51
Fax: +45 70 20 00 61
OPMAS ApS
Soenderborggade 9
DK-8000 Aarhus C
Denmark
6th. VAT TACTICAL WING
www.opmas.dk <http://www.opmas.dk/>
The information and opinions contained in this e-mail are for general
information purposes, are not intended to constitute legal or other
professional advice, and should not be relied on or treated as a
substitute for specific advice relevant to particular circumstances.
The information contained in this e-mail is intended solely to provide
general guidance for the personal use of the reader, who accepts full
responsibility for its use. For a full set of Terms & Conditions -
please
check www.opmas.dk <http://www.opmas.dk/>
________________________________
Fra: LOADMASTERS [mailto:loadmasters(at)btconnect.com]
Sendt: 17. juni 2010 16:27
Til: Lasse Rungholm
Emne: LOADMASTERS L29 Info
Dear Lasse
Please find attached a data drawing and a rough sheet we raised on the
only L29 we have weighed.
Hope this helps.
Regards
Phil
Phil Baker
for and on behalf of
LOADMASTERS LTD - for all your Aircraft Weight & Balance requirements
4 Weyside Park
Newman Lane
ALTON
Hampshire, UK
GU34 2PJ
Tel: *44 (0) 1420 544073
Fax: *44 (0) 1420 544173
www.aircraft-weighing.com
Registered office: 33 Grebe Close, Alton, Hants UK, GU34 2LR
Registration no. in UK: 5080998
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: VS: LOADMASTERS L29 Info |
I have a NEW front and rear set of L-29 canopies. Glass is clear and no
scratches.
Contact me off list if interested.
Thanks
Scott Douglass
Reno, NV USA
_SD737(at)AOL.COM_ (mailto:SD737(at)AOL.COM)
In a message dated 6/17/2010 7:56:43 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
lr(at)opmas.dk writes:
Hej
Duer dette?
Best regards
OPMAS
Lasse Rungholm, CEO, Attorney at Law, ATP MEL, MES
_lr(at)opmas.dk_ (mailto:lr(at)opmas.dk)
__________________________
Tel.: +45 70 20 00 51
Fax: +45 70 20 00 61
OPMAS ApS
Soenderborggade 9
DK-8000 Aarhus C
Denmark
6th. VAT TACTICAL WING
_www.opmas.dk_ (http://www.opmas.dk/)
The information and opinions contained in this e-mail are for general
information purposes, are not intended to constitute legal or other
professional advice, and should not be relied on or treated as a
substitute for specific advice relevant to particular circumstances.
The information contained in this e-mail is intended solely to provide
general guidance for the personal use of the reader, who accepts full
responsibility for its use. For a full set of Terms & Conditions - please
check _www.opmas.dk_ (http://www.opmas.dk/)
____________________________________
Fra: LOADMASTERS [mailto:loadmasters(at)btconnect.com]
Sendt: 17. juni 2010 16:27
Til: Lasse Rungholm
Emne: LOADMASTERS L29 Info
Dear Lasse
Please find attached a data drawing and a rough sheet we raised on the
only L29 we have weighed.
Hope this helps.
Regards
Phil
Phil Baker
for and on behalf of
LOADMASTERS LTD - for all your Aircraft Weight & Balance requirements
4 Weyside Park
Newman Lane
ALTON
Hampshire, UK
GU34 2PJ
Tel: *44 (0) 1420 544073
Fax: *44 (0) 1420 544173
_www.aircraft-weighing.com_ (http://www.aircraft-weighing.com/)
Registered office: 33 Grebe Close, Alton, Hants UK, GU34 2LR
Registration no. in UK: 5080998
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | NEW L-29 Canopy Front & Rear |
I have a NEW front and rear set of L-29 canopies. Glass is clear and no
scratches.
L-29 front Canopy and L-29 Rear Canopy NEW
Contact me off list if interested.
Thanks
Scott Douglass
Reno, NV USA
_SD737(at)AOL.COM_ (mailto:SD737(at)AOL.COM)
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | David <ainut(at)knology.net> |
| Subject: | thinking about buying again |
I'm in the need/mood to avoid the airlines again. They make me so angry
with their teeny tiny seats, handling people like cattle, and now EXTRA
charges to take your luggage with you. I mean significant extra money.
They want $25-40 *each* to carry my wife and my standard luggage on a
flight out to see the grandkids. Plus, of course, we can't take our
small dogs with us without HUGE extra money. It was cheaper to buy
these 13 lb dogs a regular human's seat than go as a pet, but of course,
they would not sell us one that way.
Anyway, I want to fly my own anyway, so I'm thinking of several
possibilities. The L-29 was my first thought (again,) but of course,
the fuel is the killer for routine cross country flights. This
particular time we/I'll be going from north Alabama to the south Denver
area. Also, I want to stay out of class A airspace because I'm a
curmudgeon, I guess. If the bird I get is unpressurized I'll need to
stay below 12,500 our course because there are no oxygen solutions for
the two dogs. With an L-29, my wife (who will be going commercial
airliner anyway) will be giving her seat to the dogs. So a two seater
with adequate baggage space will be fine.
I want the L-29 for the fun factor and the speed, but the fuel is
probably killer at 109 gallons/hour. I haven't done the actual flight
planning yet but I think it's about 1800 miles, so at 17,500 feet that's
what, about 5 hours each way in the L-29? So roughly 1,000 gallons of
Jet-A yielding just *fuel* cost of over $4,000 roundtrip. I can't
afford that on a routine basis.
Another possibility is a Lancair 360 that just came on the market.
It's about 200 kts cruise at roughly 10 gal/hr, according to the ad.
Definitely affordable as far as fuel, but a lot of money to put into a
single engine prop type.
I have a Mustang Aeronautics Mustang II that I've converted to an auto
engine but I need three small items from a fab shop but no shop in my
area will build anything if i don't buy about a thousand units of each
piece and I have to supply the original drawings. That is entirely
impractical, of course. I don't need 3,000 widgets to pay for just to
get 3 pieces. It should cruise at 170 mph on about 5 gal/hour if I can
ever get it finished. It's airframe has 770 hours on it already so the
plane itself is proven. Built originally in 1972 (the year I first
started flying lessons.)
Any other ideas, guys? Whichever bird I wind up with, I'll need to get
my local instructor to help brush the cobwebs out of my rusty skills,
and also to get my biannual.
Thanks,
David M.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | RAMPEYBOY(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: thinking about buying again |
David, my Mustang II project has temporarily stalled. However, I still
think in terms of transportation for one or two, it is near the best so far as
economy/cost. You could build it for much less than some of the other
kits, fuel will be competitive with other kits, and the speed can be excellent.
Just my two cents worth. BTW, I love the L-29, but I'll never have the IFR
rating, so it just won't work for me even if I had the dough.
Boyce
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | thinking about buying again |
| From: | "Bill Culberson" <bculberson(at)staraviation.com> |
Well, don't buy an L-29 for cross country use or because of the
"spacious" seats. Also, I would NEVER put anything in the back seat that
could accidentally turn off the fuel, instruments, and any other thing
that goes on the back seat. The L-29's purpose is for tactical jet
training and not for anything else. I would stick to the reciprocating
types for your mission.....
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of David
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 9:32 AM
Subject: L29-List: thinking about buying again
I'm in the need/mood to avoid the airlines again. They make me so angry
with their teeny tiny seats, handling people like cattle, and now EXTRA
charges to take your luggage with you. I mean significant extra money.
They want $25-40 *each* to carry my wife and my standard luggage on a
flight out to see the grandkids. Plus, of course, we can't take our
small dogs with us without HUGE extra money. It was cheaper to buy
these 13 lb dogs a regular human's seat than go as a pet, but of course,
they would not sell us one that way.
Anyway, I want to fly my own anyway, so I'm thinking of several
possibilities. The L-29 was my first thought (again,) but of course,
the fuel is the killer for routine cross country flights. This
particular time we/I'll be going from north Alabama to the south Denver
area. Also, I want to stay out of class A airspace because I'm a
curmudgeon, I guess. If the bird I get is unpressurized I'll need to
stay below 12,500 our course because there are no oxygen solutions for
the two dogs. With an L-29, my wife (who will be going commercial
airliner anyway) will be giving her seat to the dogs. So a two seater
with adequate baggage space will be fine.
I want the L-29 for the fun factor and the speed, but the fuel is
probably killer at 109 gallons/hour. I haven't done the actual flight
planning yet but I think it's about 1800 miles, so at 17,500 feet that's
what, about 5 hours each way in the L-29? So roughly 1,000 gallons of
Jet-A yielding just *fuel* cost of over $4,000 roundtrip. I can't
afford that on a routine basis.
Another possibility is a Lancair 360 that just came on the market.
It's about 200 kts cruise at roughly 10 gal/hr, according to the ad.
Definitely affordable as far as fuel, but a lot of money to put into a
single engine prop type.
I have a Mustang Aeronautics Mustang II that I've converted to an auto
engine but I need three small items from a fab shop but no shop in my
area will build anything if i don't buy about a thousand units of each
piece and I have to supply the original drawings. That is entirely
impractical, of course. I don't need 3,000 widgets to pay for just to
get 3 pieces. It should cruise at 170 mph on about 5 gal/hour if I can
ever get it finished. It's airframe has 770 hours on it already so the
plane itself is proven. Built originally in 1972 (the year I first
started flying lessons.)
Any other ideas, guys? Whichever bird I wind up with, I'll need to get
my local instructor to help brush the cobwebs out of my rusty skills,
and also to get my biannual.
Thanks,
David M.
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: thinking about buying again |
Still cheaper and faster to fly the airlines. What's a few bucks for your
bags? You could always ship your bags FEDEX or UPS and pay them twice
what the airlines charge.
In a message dated 6/30/2010 8:52:44 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
bculberson(at)staraviation.com writes:
--> L29-List message posted by: "Bill Culberson"
Well, don't buy an L-29 for cross country use or because of the
"spacious" seats. Also, I would NEVER put anything in the back seat that
could accidentally turn off the fuel, instruments, and any other thing
that goes on the back seat. The L-29's purpose is for tactical jet
training and not for anything else. I would stick to the reciprocating
types for your mission.....
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of David
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 9:32 AM
Subject: L29-List: thinking about buying again
I'm in the need/mood to avoid the airlines again. They make me so angry
with their teeny tiny seats, handling people like cattle, and now EXTRA
charges to take your luggage with you. I mean significant extra money.
They want $25-40 *each* to carry my wife and my standard luggage on a
flight out to see the grandkids. Plus, of course, we can't take our
small dogs with us without HUGE extra money. It was cheaper to buy
these 13 lb dogs a regular human's seat than go as a pet, but of course,
they would not sell us one that way.
Anyway, I want to fly my own anyway, so I'm thinking of several
possibilities. The L-29 was my first thought (again,) but of course,
the fuel is the killer for routine cross country flights. This
particular time we/I'll be going from north Alabama to the south Denver
area. Also, I want to stay out of class A airspace because I'm a
curmudgeon, I guess. If the bird I get is unpressurized I'll need to
stay below 12,500 our course because there are no oxygen solutions for
the two dogs. With an L-29, my wife (who will be going commercial
airliner anyway) will be giving her seat to the dogs. So a two seater
with adequate baggage space will be fine.
I want the L-29 for the fun factor and the speed, but the fuel is
probably killer at 109 gallons/hour. I haven't done the actual flight
planning yet but I think it's about 1800 miles, so at 17,500 feet that's
what, about 5 hours each way in the L-29? So roughly 1,000 gallons of
Jet-A yielding just *fuel* cost of over $4,000 roundtrip. I can't
afford that on a routine basis.
Another possibility is a Lancair 360 that just came on the market.
It's about 200 kts cruise at roughly 10 gal/hr, according to the ad.
Definitely affordable as far as fuel, but a lot of money to put into a
single engine prop type.
I have a Mustang Aeronautics Mustang II that I've converted to an auto
engine but I need three small items from a fab shop but no shop in my
area will build anything if i don't buy about a thousand units of each
piece and I have to supply the original drawings. That is entirely
impractical, of course. I don't need 3,000 widgets to pay for just to
get 3 pieces. It should cruise at 170 mph on about 5 gal/hour if I can
ever get it finished. It's airframe has 770 hours on it already so the
plane itself is proven. Built originally in 1972 (the year I first
started flying lessons.)
Any other ideas, guys? Whichever bird I wind up with, I'll need to get
my local instructor to help brush the cobwebs out of my rusty skills,
and also to get my biannual.
Thanks,
David M.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | delfin <delfin_driver(at)yahoo.com> |
Im looking for 27mm fuel line hose-for the L-29. Must be good quality.-
Any =0Aideas?=0A=0Abob=0A-=0AEmail: L29delfin(at)yahoo.com=0A=0A=0A=0A
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | delfin <delfin_driver(at)yahoo.com> |
Im looking for 27mm fuel line hose-for the L-29. Must be good quality.-
Any =0Aideas?=0A=0Abob=0A-=0AEmail: L29delfin(at)yahoo.com=0A=0A=0A=0A
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "John Cabrera" <propblast(at)earthlink.net> |
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________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | <fly(at)topredwarbirds.com.au> |
Hi Guys
My first l-29 list email
Just received a nice jet via Bob Schwartz
Now for some serious weight trimming
Is a modern seat harness available from say aircraft spruce that suits
the L-29
i'm in La a bit (flying with the Red Kangaroo)
So woud love to see how you do it there in the USA if anything L-29ish
is happening on the west coast
regards Tim Windsor
Topred Warbirds
Hunter Valley
0412881016
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Bill Geipel" <czech6(at)mesanetworks.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Seat Harness |
Hooker Harness has a nice 5 point set up.
----- Original Message -----
From: <fly(at)topredwarbirds.com.au>
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 3:34 AM
Subject: L29-List: Seat Harness
>
> Hi Guys
> My first l-29 list email
> Just received a nice jet via Bob Schwartz
> Now for some serious weight trimming
> Is a modern seat harness available from say aircraft spruce that suits
> the L-29
> i'm in La a bit (flying with the Red Kangaroo)
> So woud love to see how you do it there in the USA if anything L-29ish
> is happening on the west coast
>
> regards Tim Windsor
> Topred Warbirds
> Hunter Valley
> 0412881016
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Seat Harness |
Does anyone need a full set of printed L-29 maintenance manuals? I have a
set remaining from when I owned my L-29.
If so contact me directly via email off of the matronics list.
In a message dated 7/21/2010 6:42:56 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
czech6(at)mesanetworks.net writes:
--> L29-List message posted by: "Bill Geipel"
Hooker Harness has a nice 5 point set up.
----- Original Message -----
From: <fly(at)topredwarbirds.com.au>
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 3:34 AM
Subject: L29-List: Seat Harness
> --> L29-List message posted by:
>
> Hi Guys
> My first l-29 list email
> Just received a nice jet via Bob Schwartz
> Now for some serious weight trimming
> Is a modern seat harness available from say aircraft spruce that suits
> the L-29
> i'm in La a bit (flying with the Red Kangaroo)
> So woud love to see how you do it there in the USA if anything L-29ish
> is happening on the west coast
>
> regards Tim Windsor
> Topred Warbirds
> Hunter Valley
> 0412881016
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| From: | "Bill Geipel" <czech6(at)mesanetworks.net> |
| Subject: | Re: L29-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 08/04/10 |
Re: L29-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 08/04/10Gary Cole 713-824-2204
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From: Bill Culberson
To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 2:58 AM
Subject: L29-List: Re: L29-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 08/04/10
Ok guys, I'm looking for some info, but not sure who to ask. I had
some coorspondence with some guys that flew L-29's out of Houston and
were associated with a guy that has a MiG-17 two seater and MiG-21's. I
am looking for them for a show in LA....
----- Original Message -----
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| From: | "Gary and Ann" <ca6209(at)flash.net> |
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Gary Cole
713 824 2204
Ca6209(at)flash.net
L-29 out of Houston area.
You coming Bill?
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From: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com
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Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 2:58 AM
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Ok guys, I'm looking for some info, but not sure who to ask. I had some
coorspondence with some guys that flew L-29's out of Houston and were
associated with a guy that has a MiG-17 two seater and MiG-21's. I am
looking for them for a show in LA....
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| From: | "Bill Geipel" <czech6(at)mesanetworks.net> |
| Subject: | Re: L29-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 08/04/10 |
Re: L29-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 08/04/10First I've heard of it was the
Email looking for you.
I'm working.
Bill
Ca6209(at)flash.net
L-29 out of Houston area.
You coming Bill?
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Ok guys, I'm looking for some info, but not sure who to ask. I had
some coorspondence with some guys that flew L-29's out of Houston and
were associated with a guy that has a MiG-17 two seater and MiG-21's. I
am looking for them for a show in LA....
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| Subject: | M701 engine for sale? |
| From: | "NebraskaYak" <andrew.malousek(at)comcast.net> |
Does anyone know of an L29 engine for sale? Looking at an L29 for sale that will
need a new one in about a year. Thanks!
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=309022#309022
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| From: | <fly(at)topredwarbirds.com.au> |
Hi Guys
Putting the finishing touches to my jet here in Australia but need one
part...... the emerg fuel shutoff valve
any help would be greatly appreciated
regards Tim Windsor
Topred Warbirds
Hunter Valley
0412881016
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| From: | "Bill Geipel" <czech6(at)mesanetworks.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Parts Required |
Is it the cockpit valve? If so, that is the week link. Plug off the lines
and go without. Half the L-29s were produce4d without them. Not many spares.
----- Original Message -----
From: <fly(at)topredwarbirds.com.au>
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 11:24 PM
Subject: L29-List: Parts Required
>
> Hi Guys
> Putting the finishing touches to my jet here in Australia but need one
> part...... the emerg fuel shutoff valve
> any help would be greatly appreciated
>
> regards Tim Windsor
> Topred Warbirds
> Hunter Valley
> 0412881016
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Parts Required |
| From: | "John Cabrera" <propblast(at)earthlink.net> |
I have an L-29 R model and it was made with out one.
John Cabrera
------Original Message------
From: Bill Geipel
Sender: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com
ReplyTo: l29-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: L29-List: Parts Required
Sent: Sep 6, 2010 3:01 PM
Is it the cockpit valve? If so, that is the week link. Plug off the lines
and go without. Half the L-29s were produce4d without them. Not many spares.
----- Original Message -----
From: <fly(at)topredwarbirds.com.au>
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 11:24 PM
Subject: L29-List: Parts Required
>
> Hi Guys
> Putting the finishing touches to my jet here in Australia but need one
> part...... the emerg fuel shutoff valve
> any help would be greatly appreciated
>
> regards Tim Windsor
> Topred Warbirds
> Hunter Valley
> 0412881016
>
>
>
John Cabrera
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| From: | Anthony Royal <skyking76t(at)verizon.net> |
| Subject: | Engine Air Intake |
Anyone out there have a pair of spring loaded engine air intake covers for
sale?
-
Thanks
Anthony
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| From: | "Pete Taylor" <taylor(at)snowcrest.net> |
| Subject: | Engine Air Intake |
I have a set ,contact me off list
Pete
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[mailto:owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Royal
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 10:00 AM
Subject: L29-List: Engine Air Intake
Anyone out there have a pair of spring loaded engine air intake covers for
sale?
Thanks
Anthony
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| From: | delfin <l29delfin(at)yahoo.com> |
=0AI'm looking for some input about Hydraulic Fluid for the L-29.-- App
roved fluids =0Aare AMG-10, Royco 756, Aeroshell 4 and 41 and generally all
that meet Mil-H-5606 =0AH. =0A=0A=0AI know the Czechs used Aersoshell 41.
-- My question, Aeroshell 31 or comparable =0Aother brands are syntheti
c (but as per the Shell technical ref:) are =0Ainterchangable with 41, 4 et
c.- The advantage of 31 or similar is that it offers =0Amuch higher fire
resistance which is good.- Any reason not to use this other =0Athan cost?
-- Any comments- thanks=0A=0A=0A
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| From: | colyergreg(at)aol.com |
Amy 5606 is good
Greg
iPhone sent from
On Oct 2, 2010, at 3:31 PM, delfin wrote:
>
> I'm looking for some input about Hydraulic Fluid for the L-29. Approved f
luids are AMG-10, Royco 756, Aeroshell 4 and 41 and generally all that meet M
il-H-5606 H.
>
> I know the Czechs used Aersoshell 41. My question, Aeroshell 31 or compa
rable other brands are synthetic (but as per the Shell technical ref:) are i
nterchangable with 41, 4 etc. The advantage of 31 or similar is that it off
ers much higher fire resistance which is good. Any reason not to use this o
ther than cost? Any comments thanks
>
>
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| From: | <fly(at)topredwarbirds.com.au> |
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| Subject: | L-29 Canopy Front & Rear & Main Landing Gear |
I have a set of front and rear L-29 canopys for sale. New, never used,
clear and clean glass
Also have a set of new main landing gear.
Contact me off list directly via my email.
In a message dated 10/3/2010 10:32:43 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
fly(at)topredwarbirds.com.au writes:
Hi Bill
Sorry for the delay in replying
No it's the valve at te lower front of the engine
See attached photo
I also need the lower attachment bolt for the elevator trim motoany help
would be greatly appreciated as I am almost ready for engine runs
regards Tim Windsor
Topred Warbirds
Hunter Valley
0412881016
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: L29-List: Parts Required
From: "Bill Geipel" <_czech6(at)mesanetworks.net_
(mailto:czech6(at)mesanetworks.net) >
Date: Tue, September 07, 2010 8:01 am
--> L29-List message posted by: "Bill Geipel" <_czech6(at)mesanetworks.net_
(mailto:czech6(at)mesanetworks.net) >
Is it the cockpit valve? If so, that is the week link. Plug off the lines
and go without. Half the L-29s were produce4d without them. Not many
spares.
----- Original Message -----
From: <_fly(at)topredwarbirds.com.au_ (mailto:fly(at)topredwarbirds.com.au) >
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 11:24 PM
Subject: L29-List: Parts Required
(mailto:fly(at)topredwarbirds.com.au) >
>
> Hi Guys
> Putting the finishing touches to my jet here in Australia but need one
> part...... the emerg fuel shutoff valve
> any help would be greatly appreciated
>
> regards Tim Windsor
> Topred Warbirds
> Hunter Valley
> 041288101=======================
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| From: | Anthony Royal <skyking76t(at)verizon.net> |
Could someone out there maybe help with a problem? I am preparing to transf
er my newly acquired L-29 from Minnesota to Virginia. I am trying to instal
l the external fuel tanks but can't get the hardpoint hooks to close on the
support rods. I was told all that was needed was to push the support rods
into the latches. When this is done, the hook closes around the rod but doe
sn't lock. As soon as pressure is released, the hooks springs open. Seems t
o be in the jettison position all the time.
We've tried all the switch combinations on the armament panel and still ope
n. Checked all the right panel switches in the F/C and R/C and schematics b
ut still no cigar. Could someone tell me how to set the hooks into the clos
ed position? Only other solution is to put a bolt thru the mechansim to hol
d the hook in the closed position.
-
Another issue. Can the Czech NO2 and O2 bottles be hydro tested in the US a
nd be DOT approved if they pass? I've heard they-had to be replaced if th
ey are removed from the aircraft. Is this correct or can they be hydro test
ed?
-
Any advise would be-appreciated
-
Thanks,
Anthony--
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | David <ainut(at)knology.net> |
| Subject: | Re: External Tanks |
I wonder if a scuba dive shop would check those bottles? They check
scuba bottles, up to 5-7,000 psi routinely.
If you need a copilot for your MN to VA trip and can use a copilot with
zero hours jet time, I might be available. Depends on the time frame.
David
> Could someone out there maybe help with a problem? I am preparing to
> transfer my newly acquired L-29 from Minnesota to Virginia. I am
> trying to install the external fuel tanks but can't get the hardpoint
> hooks to close on the support rods. I was told all that was needed was
> to push the support rods into the latches. When this is done, the hook
> closes around the rod but doesn't lock. As soon as pressure is
> released, the hooks springs open. Seems to be in the jettison position
> all the time.
> We've tried all the switch combinations on the armament panel and
> still open. Checked all the right panel switches in the F/C and R/C
> and schematics but still no cigar. Could someone tell me how to set
> the hooks into the closed position? Only other solution is to put a
> bolt thru the mechansim to hold the hook in the closed position.
> Another issue. Can the Czech NO2 and O2 bottles be hydro tested in the
> US and be DOT approved if they pass? I've heard they had to be
> replaced if they are removed from the aircraft. Is this correct or can
> they be hydro tested?
> Any advise would be appreciated
> Thanks,
> Anthony
>
> *
>
>
> *
--
If you're an American, just say NO to the Obamanation, to socialism, and get rid
of Soros.
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| Subject: | Re: External Tanks |
| From: | "Bill Culberson" <bculberson(at)staraviation.com> |
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| Subject: | Re: External Tanks |
Aviation Classics in Reno, Nevada has a facility that will hydro the
bottles.
775-972-5540 Ask for Lyn Jenkins.
They handle the L-39's and Migs.
In a message dated 10/12/2010 12:15:24 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
bculberson(at)staraviation.com writes:
A few quick thoughts. Is the power on when you try to lock the control
rods? It could be de-activated that way with a wiring change to the armament
panel or a short somewhere grounding the solenoid for the release. If it
locks with power off and releases with power on, that could be it. Mine has no
ARM panel, but the connector is there, I rigged a safety switch so I could
drop in emergencies.
O2 and Air bottles are the big elephant in the room no one wants to talk
about. I tried all sorts of places, no ones willing to take liability for
the inspection. My A&P "visually inspects" per the maintenance docs, but
that's it. I've been thinking about replacing them with scuba and aircraft O2
tanks, haven't decided yet.
Bill
251 716 8119
----- Original Message -----
From: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com
Sent: Mon Oct 11 22:02:49 2010
Subject: L29-List: External Tanks
Could someone out there maybe help with a problem? I am preparing to
transfer my newly acquired L-29 from Minnesota to Virginia. I am trying to
install the external fuel tanks but can't get the hardpoint hooks to close on
the support rods. I was told all that was needed was to push the support rods
into the latches. When this is done, the hook closes around the rod but
doesn't lock. As soon as pressure is released, the hooks springs open. Seems
to be in the jettison position all the time.
We've tried all the switch combinations on the armament panel and still
open. Checked all the right panel switches in the F/C and R/C and schematics
but still no cigar. Could someone tell me how to set the hooks into the
closed position? Only other solution is to put a bolt thru the mechansim to
hold the hook in the closed position.
Another issue. Can the Czech NO2 and O2 bottles be hydro tested in the US
and be DOT approved if they pass? I've heard they had to be replaced if
they are removed from the aircraft. Is this correct or can they be hydro
tested?
Any advise would be appreciated
Thanks,
Anthony
(http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?L29-List)
(http://www.matronics.com/contribution)
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Pete Taylor <l-29driver(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: External Tanks External Tanks |
20 cubic foot nitrogen bottles fit in the bottle racks and you can turn them
off
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Anthony Royal <skyking76t(at)verizon.net> |
| Subject: | Re: External Tanks |
Hey David,
Wish I could accomodate you but I am taking an instructor along and this wi
ll be my training for the type rating. I had an LOA in 2000 but didn't chan
ge it to a type rating. So I have to do the training over. But I'll keep yo
u in mind for the future.
Regards
Tony
--- On Tue, 10/12/10, David wrote:
From: David <ainut(at)knology.net>
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 12:12 AM
I wonder if a scuba dive shop would check those bottles?- They check scub
a bottles, up to 5-7,000 psi routinely.
If you need a copilot for your MN to VA trip and can use a copilot with zer
o hours jet time, I might be available.- Depends on the time frame.
David
> Could someone out there maybe help with a problem? I am preparing to tran
sfer my newly acquired L-29 from Minnesota to Virginia. I am trying to inst
all the external fuel tanks but can't get the hardpoint hooks to close on t
he support rods. I was told all that was needed was to push the support rod
s into the latches. When this is done, the hook closes around the rod but d
oesn't lock. As soon as pressure is released, the hooks springs open. Seems
to be in the jettison position all the time.
> We've tried all the switch combinations on the armament panel and still o
pen. Checked all the right panel switches in the F/C and R/C and schematics
but still no cigar. Could someone tell me how to set the hooks into the cl
osed position? Only other solution is to put a bolt thru the mechansim to h
old the hook in the closed position.
> Another issue. Can the Czech NO2 and O2 bottles be hydro tested in the US
and be DOT approved if they pass? I've heard they had to be replaced if th
ey are removed from the aircraft. Is this correct or can they be hydro test
ed?
> Any advise would be appreciated
> Thanks,
> Anthony
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| From: | Anthony Royal <skyking76t(at)verizon.net> |
| Subject: | Re: External Tanks |
Bill,
We've tried with power on and power off. We can hear the hardpoints clickin
g, like they may be in the release mode but the hooks won't lock with the p
ower on or off. Doug Weske of Air Investments said the power didn't need to
be on...just shove the supports in. So we tried that..didn't work.=C2-
The owner took the armament panel out and just unplugged the cannon plug an
d removed the panel. We just plugged it back in and=C2-tried different sw
itch positions. The ARM and Jettison switches have been tried as well as ma
king sure the circuit breakers were on.=C2-I had a PhD in Electrical Engi
neering and a Mechanical Engineer working with me and we couldn't figure it
out. So many interlocks.
Was hoping maybe someone else has had an issue like this and knew what to l
ook at next.
=C2-
Yeah, Virginia has never had an L-29 in the state and I had to make sure th
e local FSDO would sign off the inspection program and Ops Limitations befo
re I bought it. They made sure I was made aware the tanks need to be change
d if they were out of the hydro limit and removed=C2-. The 29's approved
inspection program has in it to maintain with the DOT regulations so=C2-I
was hoping to get by with a hydro test and hopefully pass, just to get the
aircraft back to VA. Then I would just change out to scuba tanks.
=C2-
Thanks for the inut.
=C2-
Tony
=C2-
540 320 7597
=C2-
=C2-
=C2-
=C2-
--- On Tue, 10/12/10, Bill Culberson wrote:
From: Bill Culberson <bculberson(at)staraviation.com>
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 1:13 AM
A few quick thoughts. Is the power on when you try to lock the control rods
? It could be de-activated that way with a wiring change to the armament pa
nel or a short somewhere grounding the solenoid for the release. If it lock
s with power off and releases with power on, that could be it. Mine has no
ARM panel, but the connector is there, I rigged a safety switch so I could
drop in emergencies.
O2 and Air bottles are the big elephant in the room no one wants to talk ab
out. I tried all sorts of places, no ones willing to take liability for the
inspection. My A&P "visually inspects" per the maintenance docs, but that'
s it. I've been thinking about replacing them with scuba and aircraft O2 ta
nks, haven't decided yet.
Bill
251 716 8119
----- Original Message -----
From: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com <owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.
com>
Sent: Mon Oct 11 22:02:49 2010
Subject: L29-List: External Tanks
Could someone out there maybe help with a problem? I am preparing to transf
er my newly acquired L-29 from Minnesota to Virginia. I am trying to instal
l the external fuel tanks but can't get the hardpoint hooks to close on the
support rods. I was told all that was needed was to push the support rods
into the latches. When this is done, the hook closes around the rod but doe
sn't lock. As soon as pressure is released, the hooks springs open. Seems t
o be in the jettison position all the time.
We've tried all the switch combinations on the armament panel and still ope
n. Checked all the right panel switches in the F/C and R/C and schematics b
ut still no cigar. Could someone tell me how to set the hooks into the clos
ed position? Only other solution is to put a bolt thru the mechansim to hol
d the hook in the closed position.
Another issue. Can the Czech NO2 and O2 bottles be hydro tested in the US a
nd be DOT approved if they pass? I've heard they had to be replaced if they
are removed from the aircraft. Is this correct or can they be hydro tested
?
Any advise would be appreciated
Thanks,
Anthony=C2-
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| From: | Anthony Royal <skyking76t(at)verizon.net> |
| Subject: | Re: External Tanks |
Thanks for the info on the bottles!
--- On Tue, 10/12/10, SD737(at)aol.com wrote:
From: SD737(at)aol.com <SD737(at)aol.com>
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 1:25 AM
Aviation Classics in Reno, Nevada has a facility that will hydro the bottle
s.
775-972-5540- Ask for Lyn Jenkins.
They handle the L-39's and Migs.
-
In a message dated 10/12/2010 12:15:24 A.M. Central Daylight Time, bculbers
on(at)staraviation.com writes:
A few quick thoughts. Is the power on when you try to lock the control rods
? It could be de-activated that way with a wiring change to the armament pa
nel or a short somewhere grounding the solenoid for the release. If it lock
s with power off and releases with power on, that could be it. Mine has no
ARM panel, but the connector is there, I rigged a safety switch so I could
drop in emergencies.
O2 and Air bottles are the big elephant in the room no one wants to talk ab
out. I tried all sorts of places, no ones willing to take liability for the
inspection. My A&P "visually inspects" per the maintenance docs, but that'
s it. I've been thinking about replacing them with scuba and aircraft O2 ta
nks, haven't decided yet.
Bill
251 716 8119
----- Original Message -----
From: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com <owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.
com>
Sent: Mon Oct 11 22:02:49 2010
Subject: L29-List: External Tanks
Could someone out there maybe help with a problem? I am preparing to transf
er my newly acquired L-29 from Minnesota to Virginia. I am trying to instal
l the external fuel tanks but can't get the hardpoint hooks to close on the
support rods. I was told all that was needed was to push the support rods
into the latches. When this is done, the hook closes around the rod but doe
sn't lock. As soon as pressure is released, the hooks springs open. Seems t
o be in the jettison position all the time.
We've tried all the switch combinations on the armament panel and still ope
n. Checked all the right panel switches in the F/C and R/C and schematics b
ut still no cigar. Could someone tell me how to set the hooks into the clos
ed position? Only other solution is to put a bolt thru the mechansim to hol
d the hook in the closed position.
Another issue. Can the Czech NO2 and O2 bottles be hydro tested in the US a
nd be DOT approved if they pass? I've heard they had to be replaced if they
are removed from the aircraft. Is this correct or can they be hydro tested
?
Any advise would be appreciated
Thanks,
Anthony-
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| From: | Anthony Royal <skyking76t(at)verizon.net> |
| Subject: | Re: External Tanks External Tanks |
Thanks Pete!!- Is this for both nitrogen and oxygen?
--- On Tue, 10/12/10, Pete Taylor wrote:
From: Pete Taylor <l-29driver(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks External Tanks
Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 6:04 AM
20 cubic foot nitrogen bottles fit in the bottle racks and you can turn the
m off
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: External Tanks |
| From: | transmatch(at)aol.com |
Contact me thru my private e-mail or by phone about the hydrostatic testin
g. It can be done.
Gene Freeman
N229DD
e-mail: transmatch(at)aol.com
cell: 702-545-7313
-----Original Message-----
From: Anthony Royal <skyking76t(at)verizon.net>
Sent: Tue, Oct 12, 2010 3:02 am
Subject: L29-List: External Tanks
Could someone out there maybe help with a problem? I am preparing to trans
fer my newly acquired L-29 from Minnesota to Virginia. I am trying to inst
all the external fuel tanks but can't get the hardpoint hooks to close on
the support rods. I was told all that was needed was to push the support
rods into the latches. When this is done, the hook closes around the rod
but doesn't lock. As soon as pressure is released, the hooks springs open
. Seems to be in the jettison position all the time.
We've tried all the switch combinations on the armament panel and still op
en. Checked all the right panel switches in the F/C and R/C and schematics
but still no cigar. Could someone tell me how to set the hooks into the
closed position? Only other solution is to put a bolt thru the mechansim
to hold the hook in the closed position.
Another issue. Can the Czech NO2 and O2 bottles be hydro tested in the US
and be DOT approved if they pass? I've heard they had to be replaced if
they are removed from the aircraft. Is this correct or can they be hydro
tested?
Any advise would be appreciated
Thanks,
Anthony
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| Subject: | Re: External Tanks |
The hard point for the release of external fuel tanks have to be
mechanically re-armed with a special L-29 tool.
Jean de Roubin
B. P. 8455
98 703 - FAA'A
Polyn=C3=A9sie fran=C3=A7aise
Tel : (+689)742620
Mail : delfin(at)mail.pf
Le 12 oct. 2010 =C3- 11:18, Anthony Royal a =C3=A9crit :
Bill,
We've tried with power on and power off. We can hear the hardpoints
clicking, like they may be in the release mode but the hooks won't lock
with the power on or off. Doug Weske of Air Investments said the power
didn't need to be on...just shove the supports in. So we tried
that..didn't work.
The owner took the armament panel out and just unplugged the cannon plug
and removed the panel. We just plugged it back in and tried different
switch positions. The ARM and Jettison switches have been tried as well
as making sure the circuit breakers were on. I had a PhD in Electrical
Engineering and a Mechanical Engineer working with me and we couldn't
figure it out. So many interlocks.
Was hoping maybe someone else has had an issue like this and knew what
to look at next.
Yeah, Virginia has never had an L-29 in the state and I had to make sure
the local FSDO would sign off the inspection program and Ops Limitations
before I bought it. They made sure I was made aware the tanks need to be
changed if they were out of the hydro limit and removed . The 29's
approved inspection program has in it to maintain with the DOT
regulations so I was hoping to get by with a hydro test and hopefully
pass, just to get the aircraft back to VA. Then I would just change out
to scuba tanks.
Thanks for the inut.
Tony
540 320 7597
--- On Tue, 10/12/10, Bill Culberson
wrote:
From: Bill Culberson <bculberson(at)staraviation.com>
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 1:13 AM
A few quick thoughts. Is the power on when you try to lock the control
rods? It could be de-activated that way with a wiring change to the
armament panel or a short somewhere grounding the solenoid for the
release. If it locks with power off and releases with power on, that
could be it. Mine has no ARM panel, but the connector is there, I rigged
a safety switch so I could drop in emergencies.
O2 and Air bottles are the big elephant in the room no one wants to talk
about. I tried all sorts of places, no ones willing to take liability
for the inspection. My A&P "visually inspects" per the maintenance docs,
but that's it. I've been thinking about replacing them with scuba and
aircraft O2 tanks, haven't decided yet.
Bill
251 716 8119
----- Original Message -----
From: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com
Sent: Mon Oct 11 22:02:49 2010
Subject: L29-List: External Tanks
Could someone out there maybe help with a problem? I am preparing to
transfer my newly acquired L-29 from Minnesota to Virginia. I am trying
to install the external fuel tanks but can't get the hardpoint hooks to
close on the support rods. I was told all that was needed was to push
the support rods into the latches. When this is done, the hook closes
around the rod but doesn't lock. As soon as pressure is released, the
hooks springs open. Seems to be in the jettison position all the time.
We've tried all the switch combinations on the armament panel and still
open. Checked all the right panel switches in the F/C and R/C and
schematics but still no cigar. Could someone tell me how to set the
hooks into the closed position? Only other solution is to put a bolt
thru the mechansim to hold the hook in the closed position.
Another issue. Can the Czech NO2 and O2 bottles be hydro tested in the
US and be DOT approved if they pass? I've heard they had to be replaced
if they are removed from the aircraft. Is this correct or can they be
hydro tested?
Any advise would be appreciated
Thanks,
Anthony
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| From: | Anthony Royal <skyking76t(at)verizon.net> |
| Subject: | Re: External Tanks |
Thank you! Would you know of anyone in the US that would have such a tool?
I need to have the drop tanks for the extra fuel to fly the 29 to it's new
home.
-
Regards
Anthony-
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--- On Tue, 10/12/10, delfin(at)mail.pf wrote:
From: delfin(at)mail.pf <delfin(at)mail.pf>
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 6:51 PM
The hard point for the release of external fuel tanks have to be mechanical
ly re-armed with a special L-29 tool.
Jean de Roubin
B. P.-8455
98 703 - FAA'A
Polyn=E9sie fran=E7aise
Tel-: (+689)742620
Mail :
-delfin(at)mail.pf
Le 12 oct. 2010 =E0 11:18, Anthony Royal a =E9crit :
Bill,
We've tried with power on and power off. We can hear the hardpoints clickin
g, like they may be in the release mode but the hooks won't lock with the p
ower on or off. Doug Weske of Air Investments said the power didn't need to
be on...just shove the supports in. So we tried that..didn't work.-
The owner took the armament panel out and just unplugged the cannon plug an
d removed the panel. We just plugged it back in and-tried different switc
h positions. The ARM and Jettison switches have been tried as well as makin
g sure the circuit breakers were on.-I had a PhD in Electrical Engineerin
g and a Mechanical Engineer working with me and we couldn't figure it out.
So many interlocks.
Was hoping maybe someone else has had an issue like this and knew what to l
ook at next.
-
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-
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-
-
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| From: | "Bill Geipel" <czech6(at)mesanetworks.net> |
| Subject: | Re: External Tanks |
go to the hardware store, buy approx 1/4" box (square) steel pinch it
together to form an oval. it will work.
----- Original Message -----
From: Anthony Royal
To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
Thank you! Would you know of anyone in the US that would have
such a tool? I need to have the drop tanks for the extra fuel to fly the
29 to it's new home.
Regards
Anthony
--- On Tue, 10/12/10, delfin(at)mail.pf wrote:
From: delfin(at)mail.pf <delfin(at)mail.pf>
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 6:51 PM
The hard point for the release of external fuel tanks have to
be mechanically re-armed with a special L-29 tool.
Jean de Roubin
B. P. 8455
98 703 - FAA'A
Polyn=E9sie fran=E7aise
Tel : (+689)742620
Mail : delfin(at)mail.pf
Le 12 oct. 2010 =E0 11:18, Anthony Royal a =E9crit :
Bill,
We've tried with power on and power off. We can hear the
hardpoints clicking, like they may be in the release mode but the hooks
won't lock with the power on or off. Doug Weske of Air Investments said
the power didn't need to be on...just shove the supports in. So we tried
that..didn't work.
The owner took the armament panel out and just unplugged
the cannon plug and removed the panel. We just plugged it back in and
tried different switch positions. The ARM and Jettison switches have
been tried as well as making sure the circuit breakers were on. I had a
PhD in Electrical Engineering and a Mechanical Engineer working with me
and we couldn't figure it out. So many interlocks.
Was hoping maybe someone else has had an issue like this
and knew what to look at next.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Bill Geipel" <czech6(at)mesanetworks.net> |
| Subject: | Re: External Tanks |
If you hang one tank with the power on, it releases automatically.
Safety. You don't want to fly with one full tank hanging so it releases
both. Just leave the power off until both hooks are in place.
----- Original Message -----
From: Anthony Royal
To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
Bill,
We've tried with power on and power off. We can hear the
hardpoints clicking, like they may be in the release mode but the hooks
won't lock with the power on or off. Doug Weske of Air Investments said
the power didn't need to be on...just shove the supports in. So we tried
that..didn't work.
The owner took the armament panel out and just unplugged the
cannon plug and removed the panel. We just plugged it back in and tried
different switch positions. The ARM and Jettison switches have been
tried as well as making sure the circuit breakers were on. I had a PhD
in Electrical Engineering and a Mechanical Engineer working with me and
we couldn't figure it out. So many interlocks.
Was hoping maybe someone else has had an issue like this and
knew what to look at next.
Yeah, Virginia has never had an L-29 in the state and I had to
make sure the local FSDO would sign off the inspection program and Ops
Limitations before I bought it. They made sure I was made aware the
tanks need to be changed if they were out of the hydro limit and removed
. The 29's approved inspection program has in it to maintain with the
DOT regulations so I was hoping to get by with a hydro test and
hopefully pass, just to get the aircraft back to VA. Then I would just
change out to scuba tanks.
Thanks for the inut.
Tony
540 320 7597
--- On Tue, 10/12/10, Bill Culberson
wrote:
From: Bill Culberson <bculberson(at)staraviation.com>
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 1:13 AM
A few quick thoughts. Is the power on when you try to lock the
control rods? It could be de-activated that way with a wiring change to
the armament panel or a short somewhere grounding the solenoid for the
release. If it locks with power off and releases with power on, that
could be it. Mine has no ARM panel, but the connector is there, I rigged
a safety switch so I could drop in emergencies.
O2 and Air bottles are the big elephant in the room no one
wants to talk about. I tried all sorts of places, no ones willing to
take liability for the inspection. My A&P "visually inspects" per the
maintenance docs, but that's it. I've been thinking about replacing them
with scuba and aircraft O2 tanks, haven't decided yet.
Bill
251 716 8119
----- Original Message -----
From: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com
To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Mon Oct 11 22:02:49 2010
Subject: L29-List: External Tanks
Could someone out there maybe help with a problem? I am
preparing to transfer my newly acquired L-29 from Minnesota to Virginia.
I am trying to install the external fuel tanks but can't get the
hardpoint hooks to close on the support rods. I was told all that was
needed was to push the support rods into the latches. When this is done,
the hook closes around the rod but doesn't lock. As soon as pressure is
released, the hooks springs open. Seems to be in the jettison position
all the time.
We've tried all the switch combinations on the armament panel
and still open. Checked all the right panel switches in the F/C and R/C
and schematics but still no cigar. Could someone tell me how to set the
hooks into the closed position? Only other solution is to put a bolt
thru the mechansim to hold the hook in the closed position.
Another issue. Can the Czech NO2 and O2 bottles be hydro
tested in the US and be DOT approved if they pass? I've heard they had
to be replaced if they are removed from the aircraft. Is this correct or
can they be hydro tested?
Any advise would be appreciated
Thanks,
Anthony
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| From: | "Bill Geipel" <czech6(at)mesanetworks.net> |
| Subject: | Re: External Tanks |
who did you buy it from?
----- Original Message -----
From: Anthony Royal
To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
Hey David,
Wish I could accomodate you but I am taking an instructor along
and this will be my training for the type rating. I had an LOA in 2000
but didn't change it to a type rating. So I have to do the training
over. But I'll keep you in mind for the future.
Regards
Tony
--- On Tue, 10/12/10, David wrote:
From: David <ainut(at)knology.net>
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 12:12 AM
I wonder if a scuba dive shop would check those bottles? They
check scuba bottles, up to 5-7,000 psi routinely.
If you need a copilot for your MN to VA trip and can use a
copilot with zero hours jet time, I might be available. Depends on the
time frame.
David
> Could someone out there maybe help with a problem? I am
preparing to transfer my newly acquired L-29 from Minnesota to Virginia.
I am trying to install the external fuel tanks but can't get the
hardpoint hooks to close on the support rods. I was told all that was
needed was to push the support rods into the latches. When this is done,
the hook closes around the rod but doesn't lock. As soon as pressure is
released, the hooks springs open. Seems to be in the jettison position
all the time.
> We've tried all the switch combinations on the armament
panel and still open. Checked all the right panel switches in the F/C
and R/C and schematics but still no cigar. Could someone tell me how to
set the hooks into the closed position? Only other solution is to put a
bolt thru the mechansim to hold the hook in the closed position.
> Another issue. Can the Czech NO2 and O2 bottles be hydro
tested in the US and be DOT approved if they pass? I've heard they had
to be replaced if they are removed from the aircraft. Is this correct or
can they be hydro tested?
> Any advise would be appreciated
> Thanks,
> Anthony
>
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| From: | Neville+/or Liz Cameron <ncam(at)wave.co.nz> |
| Subject: | Re: External Tanks |
If I was doing it again, I would replace the nitrogen and oxygen tanks
with removable dive tanks, clipped in, and take them out and just get
them refilled, lots of tyre shops use nitrogen, but I just used air in
mine.
Regards
Neville
On 13/10/2010, at 4:33 PM, Bill Geipel wrote:
> who did you buy it from?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Anthony Royal
> To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 3:59 PM
> Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
>
> Hey David,
> Wish I could accomodate you but I am taking an instructor along and
this will be my training for the type rating. I had an LOA in 2000 but
didn't change it to a type rating. So I have to do the training over.
But I'll keep you in mind for the future.
> Regards
> Tony
>
> --- On Tue, 10/12/10, David wrote:
>
> From: David <ainut(at)knology.net>
> Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
> To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
> Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 12:12 AM
>
>
> I wonder if a scuba dive shop would check those bottles? They check
scuba bottles, up to 5-7,000 psi routinely.
>
> If you need a copilot for your MN to VA trip and can use a copilot
with zero hours jet time, I might be available. Depends on the time
frame.
>
> David
>
>
> > Could someone out there maybe help with a problem? I am preparing to
transfer my newly acquired L-29 from Minnesota to Virginia. I am trying
to install the external fuel tanks but can't get the hardpoint hooks to
close on the support rods. I was told all that was needed was to push
the support rods into the latches. When this is done, the hook closes
around the rod but doesn't lock. As soon as pressure is released, the
hooks springs open. Seems to be in the jettison position all the time.
> > We've tried all the switch combinations on the armament panel and
still open. Checked all the right panel switches in the F/C and R/C and
schematics but still no cigar. Could someone tell me how to set the
hooks into the closed position? Only other solution is to put a bolt
thru the mechansim to hold the hook in the closed position.
> > Another issue. Can the Czech NO2 and O2 bottles be hydro tested in
the US and be DOT approved if they pass? I've heard they had to be
replaced if they are removed from the aircraft. Is this correct or can
they be hydro tested?
> > Any advise would be appreciated
> > Thanks,
> > Anthony
> >
> > *
> >
> >
> > *
>
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________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Anthony Royal <skyking76t(at)verizon.net> |
| Subject: | Re: External Tanks |
So, dry air can be used in place of the nitrogen? Great idea and cheaper to
o. Plenty of SCUBA shops around my area.-I under stand they are 20 cu/ft
tanks. Should be able to get aluminum tanks that are DOT approved and that
solves the FAA problem.
Thanks!
Tony
--- On Wed, 10/13/10, Neville+/or Liz Cameron wrote:
From: Neville+/or Liz Cameron <ncam(at)wave.co.nz>
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 1:16 AM
If I was doing it again, I would replace the nitrogen and oxygen tanks with
removable dive tanks, clipped in, and take them out and just get them refi
lled, lots of tyre shops use nitrogen, but I just used air in mine.
Regards
Neville
On 13/10/2010, at 4:33 PM, Bill Geipel wrote:
who did you buy it from?
----- Original Message -----
From:-Anthony Royal
To:-l29-list(at)matronics.com
Sent:-Tuesday, October 12, 2010 3:59 PM
Subject:-Re: L29-List: External Tanks
Hey David,
Wish I could accomodate you but I am taking an instructor along and this wi
ll be my training for the type rating. I had an LOA in 2000 but didn't chan
ge it to a type rating. So I have to do the training over. But I'll keep yo
u in mind for the future.
Regards
Tony
--- On-Tue, 10/12/10, David--wrote:
From: David <ainut(at)knology.net>
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
To:-l29-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 12:12 AM
I wonder if a scuba dive shop would check those bottles?- They check scub
a bottles, up to 5-7,000 psi routinely.
If you need a copilot for your MN to VA trip and can use a copilot with zer
o hours jet time, I might be available.- Depends on the time frame.
David
> Could someone out there maybe help with a problem? I am preparing to tran
sfer my newly acquired L-29 from Minnesota to Virginia. I am trying to inst
all the external fuel tanks but can't get the hardpoint hooks to close on t
he support rods. I was told all that was needed was to push the support rod
s into the latches. When this is done, the hook closes around the rod but d
oesn't lock. As soon as pressure is released, the hooks springs open. Seems
to be in the jettison position all the time.
> We've tried all the switch combinations on the armament panel and still o
pen. Checked all the right panel switches in the F/C and R/C and schematics
but still no cigar. Could someone tell me how to set the hooks into the cl
osed position? Only other solution is to put a bolt thru the mechansim to h
old the hook in the closed position.
> Another issue. Can the Czech NO2 and O2 bottles be hydro tested in the US
and be DOT approved if they pass? I've heard they had to be replaced if th
ey are removed from the aircraft. Is this correct or can they be hydro test
ed?
> Any advise would be appreciated
> Thanks,
> Anthony
>-
> *
>-
>-
> *
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| From: | "Bill Geipel" <czech6(at)mesanetworks.net> |
| Subject: | Re: External Tanks |
Dry air is never dryer than Nitro. But it works.
----- Original Message -----
From: Anthony Royal
To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
So, dry air can be used in place of the nitrogen? Great idea and
cheaper too. Plenty of SCUBA shops around my area. I under stand they
are 20 cu/ft tanks. Should be able to get aluminum tanks that are DOT
approved and that solves the FAA problem.
Thanks!
Tony
--- On Wed, 10/13/10, Neville+/or Liz Cameron
wrote:
From: Neville+/or Liz Cameron <ncam(at)wave.co.nz>
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 1:16 AM
If I was doing it again, I would replace the nitrogen and
oxygen tanks with removable dive tanks, clipped in, and take them out
and just get them refilled, lots of tyre shops use nitrogen, but I just
used air in mine.
Regards
Neville
On 13/10/2010, at 4:33 PM, Bill Geipel wrote:
who did you buy it from?
----- Original Message -----
From: Anthony Royal
To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
Hey David,
Wish I could accomodate you but I am taking an
instructor along and this will be my training for the type rating. I had
an LOA in 2000 but didn't change it to a type rating. So I have to do
the training over. But I'll keep you in mind for the future.
Regards
Tony
--- On Tue, 10/12/10, David
wrote:
From: David <ainut(at)knology.net>
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 12:12 AM
I wonder if a scuba dive shop would check those
bottles? They check scuba bottles, up to 5-7,000 psi routinely.
If you need a copilot for your MN to VA trip and
can use a copilot with zero hours jet time, I might be available.
Depends on the time frame.
David
> Could someone out there maybe help with a
problem? I am preparing to transfer my newly acquired L-29 from
Minnesota to Virginia. I am trying to install the external fuel tanks
but can't get the hardpoint hooks to close on the support rods. I was
told all that was needed was to push the support rods into the latches.
When this is done, the hook closes around the rod but doesn't lock. As
soon as pressure is released, the hooks springs open. Seems to be in the
jettison position all the time.
> We've tried all the switch combinations on the
armament panel and still open. Checked all the right panel switches in
the F/C and R/C and schematics but still no cigar. Could someone tell me
how to set the hooks into the closed position? Only other solution is to
put a bolt thru the mechansim to hold the hook in the closed position.
> Another issue. Can the Czech NO2 and O2 bottles
be hydro tested in the US and be DOT approved if they pass? I've heard
they had to be replaced if they are removed from the aircraft. Is this
correct or can they be hydro tested?
> Any advise would be appreciated
> Thanks,
> Anthony
>
> *
>
>
> *
-- If you're an American, just say NO to the
Obamanation, to socialism, and get rid ; - The L29-List
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| From: | Anthony Royal <skyking76t(at)verizon.net> |
| Subject: | Re: External Tanks |
Maybe better to stay with the nitrogen than dry air?
--- On Wed, 10/13/10, Bill Geipel wrote:
From: Bill Geipel <czech6(at)mesanetworks.net>
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 11:50 AM
Dry air is never dryer than Nitro. But it works.
----- Original Message -----
From: Anthony Royal
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
So, dry air can be used in place of the nitrogen? Great idea and cheaper to
o. Plenty of SCUBA shops around my area.-I under stand they are 20 cu/ft
tanks. Should be able to get aluminum tanks that are DOT approved and that
solves the FAA problem.
Thanks!
Tony
--- On Wed, 10/13/10, Neville+/or Liz Cameron wrote:
From: Neville+/or Liz Cameron <ncam(at)wave.co.nz>
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 1:16 AM
If I was doing it again, I would replace the nitrogen and oxygen tanks with
removable dive tanks, clipped in, and take them out and just get them refi
lled, lots of tyre shops use nitrogen, but I just used air in mine.
Regards
Neville
On 13/10/2010, at 4:33 PM, Bill Geipel wrote:
who did you buy it from?
----- Original Message -----
From:-Anthony Royal
To:-l29-list(at)matronics.com
Sent:-Tuesday, October 12, 2010 3:59 PM
Subject:-Re: L29-List: External Tanks
Hey David,
Wish I could accomodate you but I am taking an instructor along and this wi
ll be my training for the type rating. I had an LOA in 2000 but didn't chan
ge it to a type rating. So I have to do the training over. But I'll keep yo
u in mind for the future.
Regards
Tony
--- On-Tue, 10/12/10, David--wrote:
From: David <ainut(at)knology.net>
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
To:-l29-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 12:12 AM
I wonder if a scuba dive shop would check those bottles?- They check scub
a bottles, up to 5-7,000 psi routinely.
If you need a copilot for your MN to VA trip and can use a copilot with zer
o hours jet time, I might be available.- Depends on the time frame.
David
> Could someone out there maybe help with a problem? I am preparing to tran
sfer my newly acquired L-29 from Minnesota to Virginia. I am trying to inst
all the external fuel tanks but can't get the hardpoint hooks to close on t
he support rods. I was told all that was needed was to push the support rod
s into the latches. When this is done, the hook closes around the rod but d
oesn't lock. As soon as pressure is released, the hooks springs open. Seems
to be in the jettison position all the time.
> We've tried all the switch combinations on the armament panel and still o
pen. Checked all the right panel switches in the F/C and R/C and schematics
but still no cigar. Could someone tell me how to set the hooks into the cl
osed position? Only other solution is to put a bolt thru the mechansim to h
old the hook in the closed position.
> Another issue. Can the Czech NO2 and O2 bottles be hydro tested in the US
and be DOT approved if they pass? I've heard they had to be replaced if th
ey are removed from the aircraft. Is this correct or can they be hydro test
ed?
> Any advise would be appreciated
> Thanks,
> Anthony
>-
> *
>-
>-
> *
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get rid ; - - - - The L29-List-tp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?L2
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| From: | "Bill Culberson" <bculberson(at)staraviation.com> |
I have used scuba air for the last 3 years and they guy that had it
before me used scuba seven years before that. I have spent some time
working on mine recently making sure it will hold air as long as
possible. In doing so, I have removed a check a number of components and
have had no corrosion to speak of. As long as it's DRY, I think that is
the most significant issue. I'd be curious to know what other L-29 guys
are using....
BTW, I found a pretty cool ultrasonic leak detector from Grainger that
is pretty amazing. It surprised me how many really small leaks I had.
Detector was so sensitive and found so many leaks (and one bad reducer)
that she will hold 70 bar for months at a time now...
Bill
________________________________
From: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Royal
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
Maybe better to stay with the nitrogen than dry air?
--- On Wed, 10/13/10, Bill Geipel wrote:
From: Bill Geipel <czech6(at)mesanetworks.net>
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 11:50 AM
Dry air is never dryer than Nitro. But it works.
----- Original Message -----
From: Anthony Royal
<http://us.mc840.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=skyking76t@verizon.net>
To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
<http://us.mc840.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=l29-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
So, dry air can be used in place of the nitrogen? Great idea and cheaper
too. Plenty of SCUBA shops around my area. I under stand they are 20
cu/ft tanks. Should be able to get aluminum tanks that are DOT approved
and that solves the FAA problem.
Thanks!
Tony
--- On Wed, 10/13/10, Neville+/or Liz Cameron http://us.mc840.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ncam@wave.co.nz> >
wrote:
From: Neville+/or Liz Cameron <ncam(at)wave.co.nz>
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 1:16 AM
If I was doing it again, I would replace the nitrogen and oxygen
tanks with removable dive tanks, clipped in, and take them out and just
get them refilled, lots of tyre shops use nitrogen, but I just used air
in mine.
Regards
Neville
On 13/10/2010, at 4:33 PM, Bill Geipel wrote:
who did you buy it from?
----- Original Message -----
From: Anthony Royal
<http://us.mc840.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=skyking76t@verizon.net>
To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
<http://us.mc840.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=l29-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
Hey David,
Wish I could accomodate you but I am taking an instructor along and this
will be my training for the type rating. I had an LOA in 2000 but didn't
change it to a type rating. So I have to do the training over. But I'll
keep you in mind for the future.
Regards
Tony
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wrote:
From: David <ainut(at)knology.net
<http://us.mc840.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ainut@knology.net> >
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
<http://us.mc840.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=l29-list@matronics.com>
Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 12:12 AM
<http://us.mc840.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ainut@knology.net> >
I wonder if a scuba dive shop would check those bottles? They
check scuba bottles, up to 5-7,000 psi routinely.
If you need a copilot for your MN to VA trip and can use a
copilot with zero hours jet time, I might be available. Depends on the
time frame.
David
> Could someone out there maybe help with a problem? I am
preparing to transfer my newly acquired L-29 from Minnesota to Virginia.
I am trying to install the external fuel tanks but can't get the
hardpoint hooks to close on the support rods. I was told all that was
needed was to push the support rods into the latches. When this is done,
the hook closes around the rod but doesn't lock. As soon as pressure is
released, the hooks springs open. Seems to be in the jettison position
all the time.
> We've tried all the switch combinations on the armament panel
and still open. Checked all the right panel switches in the F/C and R/C
and schematics but still no cigar. Could someone tell me how to set the
hooks into the closed position? Only other solution is to put a bolt
thru the mechansim to hold the hook in the closed position.
> Another issue. Can the Czech NO2 and O2 bottles be hydro
tested in the US and be DOT approved if they pass? I've heard they had
to be replaced if they are removed from the aircraft. Is this correct or
can they be hydro tested?
> Any advise would be appreciated
> Thanks,
> Anthony
>
> *
>
>
> *
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| From: | Anthony Royal <skyking76t(at)verizon.net> |
Bill,
Do you have the part number for the leak detector?
Tony
--- On Wed, 10/13/10, Bill Culberson wrote:
From: Bill Culberson <bculberson(at)staraviation.com>
Subject: RE: L29-List: External Tanks
Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 3:09 PM
I have used scuba air for the last 3 years and they guy that had it before
me used scuba seven years before that. I have spent some time working on mi
ne recently making sure it will hold air as long as possible. In doing so,
I have removed a check a number of components and have had no corrosion to
speak of. As long as it=99s DRY, I think that is the most significant
issue. I=99d be curious to know what other L-29 guys are using
.
=C2-
BTW, I found a pretty cool ultrasonic leak detector from Grainger that is p
retty amazing. It surprised me how many really small leaks I had. Detector
was so sensitive and found so many leaks (and one bad reducer) that she wil
l hold 70 bar for months at a time now
=C2-
Bill
=C2-
From: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-l29-list-server@mat
ronics.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Royal
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
=C2-
Maybe better to stay with the nitrogen than dry air?
--- On Wed, 10/13/10, Bill Geipel wrote:
From: Bill Geipel <czech6(at)mesanetworks.net>
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 11:50 AM
Dry air is never dryer than Nitro. But it works.
----- Original Message -----
From: Anthony Royal
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
=C2-
So, dry air can be used in place of the nitrogen? Great idea and cheaper to
o. Plenty of SCUBA shops around my area.=C2-I under stand they are 20 cu/
ft tanks. Should be able to get aluminum tanks that are DOT approved and th
at solves the FAA problem.
Thanks!
Tony
--- On Wed, 10/13/10, Neville+/or Liz Cameron wrote:
From: Neville+/or Liz Cameron <ncam(at)wave.co.nz>
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 1:16 AM
If I was doing it again, I would replace the nitrogen and oxygen tanks with
removable dive tanks, clipped in, and take them out and just get them refi
lled, lots of tyre shops use nitrogen, but I just used air in mine.
Regards
Neville
On 13/10/2010, at 4:33 PM, Bill Geipel wrote:
who did you buy it from?
----- Original Message -----
From:=C2-Anthony Royal
To:=C2-l29-list(at)matronics.com
Sent:=C2-Tuesday, October 12, 2010 3:59 PM
Subject:=C2-Re: L29-List: External Tanks
=C2-
Hey David,
Wish I could accomodate you but I am taking an instructor along and this wi
ll be my training for the type rating. I had an LOA in 2000 but didn't chan
ge it to a type rating. So I have to do the training over. But I'll keep yo
u in mind for the future.
Regards
Tony
--- On=C2-Tue, 10/12/10, David=C2-=C2-wrote:
From: David <ainut(at)knology.net>
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
To:=C2-l29-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 12:12 AM
I wonder if a scuba dive shop would check those bottles?=C2- They check s
cuba bottles, up to 5-7,000 psi routinely.
If you need a copilot for your MN to VA trip and can use a copilot with zer
o hours jet time, I might be available.=C2- Depends on the time frame.
David
> Could someone out there maybe help with a problem? I am preparing to tran
sfer my newly acquired L-29 from Minnesota to Virginia . I am trying to ins
tall the external fuel tanks but can't get the hardpoint hooks to close on
the support rods. I was told all that was needed was to push the support ro
ds into the latches. When this is done, the hook closes around the rod but
doesn't lock. As soon as pressure is released, the hooks springs open. Seem
s to be in the jettison position all the time.
> We've tried all the switch combinations on the armament panel and still o
pen. Checked all the right panel switches in the F/C and R/C and schematics
but still no cigar. Could someone tell me how to set the hooks into the cl
osed position? Only other solution is to put a bolt thru the mechansim to h
old the hook in the closed position.
> Another issue. Can the Czech NO2 and O2 bottles be hydro tested in the US
and be DOT approved if they pass? I've heard they had to be replaced if th
ey are removed from the aircraft. Is this correct or can they be hydro test
ed?
> Any advise would be appreciated
> Thanks,
> Anthony
>=C2-
> *
>=C2-
>=C2-
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| Subject: | Re: External Tanks |
I have a electric compressor with filters, in place of the IFF (front,
right) who deliver me compressed air for brakes (works at 20 psi, stops
at 50)
Jean de Roubin
B. P. 8455
98 703 - FAA'A
Polyn=E9sie fran=E7aise
Tel : (+689)742620
Mail : delfin(at)mail.pf
Le 13 oct. 2010 =E0 09:09, Bill Culberson a =E9crit :
I have used scuba air for the last 3 years and they guy that had it
before me used scuba seven years before that. I have spent some time
working on mine recently making sure it will hold air as long as
possible. In doing so, I have removed a check a number of components and
have had no corrosion to speak of. As long as it=92s DRY, I think that
is the most significant issue. I=92d be curious to know what other L-29
guys are using=85.
BTW, I found a pretty cool ultrasonic leak detector from Grainger that
is pretty amazing. It surprised me how many really small leaks I had.
Detector was so sensitive and found so many leaks (and one bad reducer)
that she will hold 70 bar for months at a time now=85
Bill
From: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Royal
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
Maybe better to stay with the nitrogen than dry air?
--- On Wed, 10/13/10, Bill Geipel wrote:
From: Bill Geipel <czech6(at)mesanetworks.net>
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 11:50 AM
Dry air is never dryer than Nitro. But it works.
----- Original Message -----
From: Anthony Royal
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
So, dry air can be used in place of the nitrogen? Great idea and cheaper
too. Plenty of SCUBA shops around my area. I under stand they are 20
cu/ft tanks. Should be able to get aluminum tanks that are DOT approved
and that solves the FAA problem.
Thanks!
Tony
--- On Wed, 10/13/10, Neville+/or Liz Cameron wrote:
From: Neville+/or Liz Cameron <ncam(at)wave.co.nz>
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 1:16 AM
If I was doing it again, I would replace the nitrogen and oxygen tanks
with removable dive tanks, clipped in, and take them out and just get
them refilled, lots of tyre shops use nitrogen, but I just used air in
mine.
Regards
Neville
On 13/10/2010, at 4:33 PM, Bill Geipel wrote:
who did you buy it from?
----- Original Message -----
From: Anthony Royal
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
Hey David,
Wish I could accomodate you but I am taking an instructor along and this
will be my training for the type rating. I had an LOA in 2000 but didn't
change it to a type rating. So I have to do the training over. But I'll
keep you in mind for the future.
Regards
Tony
--- On Tue, 10/12/10, David wrote:
From: David <ainut(at)knology.net>
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 12:12 AM
I wonder if a scuba dive shop would check those bottles? They check
scuba bottles, up to 5-7,000 psi routinely.
If you need a copilot for your MN to VA trip and can use a copilot with
zero hours jet time, I might be available. Depends on the time frame.
David
> Could someone out there maybe help with a problem? I am preparing to
transfer my newly acquired L-29 from Minnesota to Virginia. I am trying
to install the external fuel tanks but can't get the hardpoint hooks to
close on the support rods. I was told all that was needed was to push
the support rods into the latches. When this is done, the hook closes
around the rod but doesn't lock. As soon as pressure is released, the
hooks springs open. Seems to be in the jettison position all the time.
> We've tried all the switch combinations on the armament panel and
still open. Checked all the right panel switches in the F/C and R/C and
schematics but still no cigar. Could someone tell me how to set the
hooks into the closed position? Only other solution is to put a bolt
thru the mechansim to hold the hook in the closed position.
> Another issue. Can the Czech NO2 and O2 bottles be hydro tested in the
US and be DOT approved if they pass? I've heard they had to be replaced
if they are removed from the aircraft. Is this correct or can they be
hydro tested?
> Any advise would be appreciated
> Thanks,
> Anthony
>
> *
>
>
> *
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| Subject: | Re: External Tanks |
You can buy an ultrasonic leak detector on Ebay for a lot less than
Grainger.
In a message dated 10/13/2010 12:31:22 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
skyking76t(at)verizon.net writes:
Bill,
Do you have the part number for the leak detector?
Tony
--- On Wed, 10/13/10, Bill Culberson wrote:
From: Bill Culberson <bculberson(at)staraviation.com>
Subject: RE: L29-List: External Tanks
Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 3:09 PM
I have used scuba air for the last 3 years and they guy that had it befor
e
me used scuba seven years before that. I have spent some time working on
mine recently making sure it will hold air as long as possible. In doing
so, I have removed a check a number of components and have had no corrosi
on
to speak of. As long as it=99s DRY, I think that is the most signif
icant
issue. I=99d be curious to know what other L-29 guys are using
.
BTW, I found a pretty cool ultrasonic leak detector from Grainger that is
pretty amazing. It surprised me how many really small leaks I had. Detect
or
was so sensitive and found so many leaks (and one bad reducer) that she
will hold 70 bar for months at a time now
Bill
____________________________________
From: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Royal
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
Maybe better to stay with the nitrogen than dry air?
--- On Wed, 10/13/10, Bill Geipel wrote:
From: Bill Geipel <czech6(at)mesanetworks.net>
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 11:50 AM
Dry air is never dryer than Nitro. But it works.
----- Original Message -----
From: _Anthony Royal_
(http://us.mc840.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=skyking76t@verizon.net)
(http://us.mc840.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=l29-list@matronics.com)
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
So, dry air can be used in place of the nitrogen? Great idea and cheaper
too. Plenty of SCUBA shops around my area. I under stand they are 20 cu/
ft
tanks. Should be able to get aluminum tanks that are DOT approved and tha
t
solves the FAA problem.
Thanks!
Tony
--- On Wed, 10/13/10, Neville+/or Liz Cameron <_ncam(at)wave.co.nz_
(http://us.mc840.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ncam@wave.co.nz) > wrote:
From: Neville+/or Liz Cameron <ncam(at)wave.co.nz>
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 1:16 AM
If I was doing it again, I would replace the nitrogen and oxygen tanks
with removable dive tanks, clipped in, and take them out and just get th
em
refilled, lots of tyre shops use nitrogen, but I just used air in mine.
Regards
Neville
On 13/10/2010, at 4:33 PM, Bill Geipel wrote:
who did you buy it from?
----- Original Message -----
From: _Anthony Royal_
(http://us.mc840.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=skyking76t@verizon.net)
(http://us.mc840.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=l29-list@matronics.com)
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
Hey David,
Wish I could accomodate you but I am taking an instructor along and this
will be my training for the type rating. I had an LOA in 2000 but didn't
change it to a type rating. So I have to do the training over. But I'll
keep
you in mind for the future.
Regards
Tony
--- On Tue, 10/12/10, David <_ainut(at)knology.net_
(http://us.mc840.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ainut@knology.net) > wrote
:
From: David <_ainut(at)knology.net_
(http://us.mc840.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ainut@knology.net) >
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
(http://us.mc840.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=l29-list@matronics.com)
Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 12:12 AM
--> L29-List message posted by: David <_ainut(at)knology.net_
(http://us.mc840.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ainut@knology.net) >
I wonder if a scuba dive shop would check those bottles? They check
scuba bottles, up to 5-7,000 psi routinely.
If you need a copilot for your MN to VA trip and can use a copilot with
zero hours jet time, I might be available. Depends on the time frame.
David
> Could someone out there maybe help with a problem? I am preparing to
transfer my newly acquired L-29 from Minnesota to Virginia . I am trying
to
install the external fuel tanks but can't get the hardpoint hooks to clos
e
on the support rods. I was told all that was needed was to push the
support rods into the latches. When this is done, the hook closes around
the rod
but doesn't lock. As soon as pressure is released, the hooks springs ope
n.
Seems to be in the jettison position all the time.
> We've tried all the switch combinations on the armament panel and stil
l
open. Checked all the right panel switches in the F/C and R/C and
schematics but still no cigar. Could someone tell me how to set the hook
s into the
closed position? Only other solution is to put a bolt thru the mechansim
to hold the hook in the closed position.
> Another issue. Can the Czech NO2 and O2 bottles be hydro tested in the
US and be DOT approved if they pass? I've heard they had to be replaced
if
they are removed from the aircraft. Is this correct or can they be hydro
tested?
> Any advise would be appreciated
> Thanks,
> Anthony
>
> *
>
>
> *
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| From: | "Bill Culberson" <bculberson(at)staraviation.com> |
That's probably true, good idea.
________________________________
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[mailto:owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of SD737(at)aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
You can buy an ultrasonic leak detector on Ebay for a lot less than
Grainger.
In a message dated 10/13/2010 12:31:22 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
skyking76t(at)verizon.net writes:
Bill,
Do you have the part number for the leak detector?
Tony
--- On Wed, 10/13/10, Bill Culberson
wrote:
From: Bill Culberson <bculberson(at)staraviation.com>
Subject: RE: L29-List: External Tanks
To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 3:09 PM
I have used scuba air for the last 3 years and they guy that had
it before me used scuba seven years before that. I have spent some time
working on mine recently making sure it will hold air as long as
possible. In doing so, I have removed a check a number of components and
have had no corrosion to speak of. As long as it's DRY, I think that is
the most significant issue. I'd be curious to know what other L-29 guys
are using....
BTW, I found a pretty cool ultrasonic leak detector from
Grainger that is pretty amazing. It surprised me how many really small
leaks I had. Detector was so sensitive and found so many leaks (and one
bad reducer) that she will hold 70 bar for months at a time now...
Bill
________________________________
From: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Royal
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 1:27 PM
To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
Maybe better to stay with the nitrogen than dry air?
--- On Wed, 10/13/10, Bill Geipel wrote:
From: Bill Geipel <czech6(at)mesanetworks.net>
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 11:50 AM
Dry air is never dryer than Nitro. But it works.
----- Original Message -----
From: Anthony Royal
<http://us.mc840.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=skyking76t@verizon.net>
To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
<http://us.mc840.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=l29-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
So, dry air can be used in place of the nitrogen? Great idea and cheaper
too. Plenty of SCUBA shops around my area. I under stand they are 20
cu/ft tanks. Should be able to get aluminum tanks that are DOT approved
and that solves the FAA problem.
Thanks!
Tony
--- On Wed, 10/13/10, Neville+/or Liz Cameron http://us.mc840.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ncam@wave.co.nz> >
wrote:
From: Neville+/or Liz Cameron <ncam(at)wave.co.nz>
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 1:16 AM
If I was doing it again, I would replace the nitrogen and oxygen
tanks with removable dive tanks, clipped in, and take them out and just
get them refilled, lots of tyre shops use nitrogen, but I just used air
in mine.
Regards
Neville
On 13/10/2010, at 4:33 PM, Bill Geipel wrote:
who did you buy it from?
----- Original Message -----
From: Anthony Royal
<http://us.mc840.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=skyking76t@verizon.net>
To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
<http://us.mc840.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=l29-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
Hey David,
Wish I could accomodate you but I am taking an instructor along and this
will be my training for the type rating. I had an LOA in 2000 but didn't
change it to a type rating. So I have to do the training over. But I'll
keep you in mind for the future.
Regards
Tony
--- On Tue, 10/12/10, David http://us.mc840.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ainut@knology.net> >
wrote:
From: David <ainut(at)knology.net
<http://us.mc840.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ainut@knology.net> >
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
<http://us.mc840.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=l29-list@matronics.com>
Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 12:12 AM
<http://us.mc840.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ainut@knology.net> >
I wonder if a scuba dive shop would check those bottles? They
check scuba bottles, up to 5-7,000 psi routinely.
If you need a copilot for your MN to VA trip and can use a
copilot with zero hours jet time, I might be available. Depends on the
time frame.
David
> Could someone out there maybe help with a problem? I am
preparing to transfer my newly acquired L-29 from Minnesota to Virginia
. I am trying to install the external fuel tanks but can't get the
hardpoint hooks to close on the support rods. I was told all that was
needed was to push the support rods into the latches. When this is done,
the hook closes around the rod but doesn't lock. As soon as pressure is
released, the hooks springs open. Seems to be in the jettison position
all the time.
> We've tried all the switch combinations on the armament panel
and still open. Checked all the right panel switches in the F/C and R/C
and schematics but still no cigar. Could someone tell me how to set the
hooks into the closed position? Only other solution is to put a bolt
thru the mechansim to hold the hook in the closed position.
> Another issue. Can the Czech NO2 and O2 bottles be hydro
tested in the US and be DOT approved if they pass? I've heard they had
to be replaced if they are removed from the aircraft. Is this correct or
can they be hydro tested?
> Any advise would be appreciated
> Thanks,
> Anthony
>
> *
>
>
> *
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| From: | Anthony Royal <skyking76t(at)verizon.net> |
| Subject: | Re: External Tanks |
Good point
--- On Wed, 10/13/10, SD737(at)aol.com wrote:
From: SD737(at)aol.com <SD737(at)aol.com>
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 4:00 PM
You can buy an ultrasonic leak detector on Ebay for a lot less than Grainge
r.
=C2-
In a message dated 10/13/2010 12:31:22 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, skyking7
6t(at)verizon.net writes:
Bill,
Do you have the part number for the leak detector?
Tony
--- On Wed, 10/13/10, Bill Culberson wrote:
From: Bill Culberson <bculberson(at)staraviation.com>
Subject: RE: L29-List: External Tanks
Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 3:09 PM
I have used scuba air for the last 3 years and they guy that had it before
me used scuba seven years before that. I have spent some time working on mi
ne recently making sure it will hold air as long as possible. In doing so,
I have removed a check a number of components and have had no corrosion to
speak of. As long as it=99s DRY, I think that is the most significant
issue. I=99d be curious to know what other L-29 guys are using
.
=C2-
BTW, I found a pretty cool ultrasonic leak detector from Grainger that is p
retty amazing. It surprised me how many really small leaks I had. Detector
was so sensitive and found so many leaks (and one bad reducer) that she wil
l hold 70 bar for months at a time now
Bill
From: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-l29-list-server@mat
ronics.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Royal
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
Maybe better to stay with the nitrogen than dry air?
--- On Wed, 10/13/10, Bill Geipel wrote:
From: Bill Geipel <czech6(at)mesanetworks.net>
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 11:50 AM
Dry air is never dryer than Nitro. But it works.
----- Original Message -----
From: Anthony Royal
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
=C2-
So, dry air can be used in place of the nitrogen? Great idea and cheaper to
o. Plenty of SCUBA shops around my area.=C2-I under stand they are 20 cu/
ft tanks. Should be able to get aluminum tanks that are DOT approved and th
at solves the FAA problem.
Thanks!
Tony
--- On Wed, 10/13/10, Neville+/or Liz Cameron wrote:
From: Neville+/or Liz Cameron <ncam(at)wave.co.nz>
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 1:16 AM
If I was doing it again, I would replace the nitrogen and oxygen tanks with
removable dive tanks, clipped in, and take them out and just get them refi
lled, lots of tyre shops use nitrogen, but I just used air in mine.
Regards
Neville
On 13/10/2010, at 4:33 PM, Bill Geipel wrote:
who did you buy it from?
----- Original Message -----
From:=C2-Anthony Royal
To:=C2-l29-list(at)matronics.com
Sent:=C2-Tuesday, October 12, 2010 3:59 PM
Subject:=C2-Re: L29-List: External Tanks
=C2-
Hey David,
Wish I could accomodate you but I am taking an instructor along and this wi
ll be my training for the type rating. I had an LOA in 2000 but didn't chan
ge it to a type rating. So I have to do the training over. But I'll keep yo
u in mind for the future.
Regards
Tony
--- On=C2-Tue, 10/12/10, David=C2-=C2-wrote:
From: David <ainut(at)knology.net>
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
To:=C2-l29-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 12:12 AM
I wonder if a scuba dive shop would check those bottles?=C2- They check s
cuba bottles, up to 5-7,000 psi routinely.
If you need a copilot for your MN to VA trip and can use a copilot with zer
o hours jet time, I might be available.=C2- Depends on the time frame.
David
> Could someone out there maybe help with a problem? I am preparing to tran
sfer my newly acquired L-29 from Minnesota to Virginia . I am trying to ins
tall the external fuel tanks but can't get the hardpoint hooks to close on
the support rods. I was told all that was needed was to push the support ro
ds into the latches. When this is done, the hook closes around the rod but
doesn't lock. As soon as pressure is released, the hooks springs open. Seem
s to be in the jettison position all the time.
> We've tried all the switch combinations on the armament panel and still o
pen. Checked all the right panel switches in the F/C and R/C and schematics
but still no cigar. Could someone tell me how to set the hooks into the cl
osed position? Only other solution is to put a bolt thru the mechansim to h
old the hook in the closed position.
> Another issue. Can the Czech NO2 and O2 bottles be hydro tested in the US
and be DOT approved if they pass? I've heard they had to be replaced if th
ey are removed from the aircraft. Is this correct or can they be hydro test
ed?
> Any advise would be appreciated
> Thanks,
> Anthony
>=C2-
> *
>=C2-
>=C2-
> *
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| From: | David <ainut(at)hiwaay.net> |
| Subject: | Re: External Tanks |
>
Will they work for R-134a refrigerant?
David
> Thats probably true, good idea.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:* owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *SD737(at)aol.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 13, 2010 3:01 PM
> *To:* l29-list(at)matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: L29-List: External Tanks
>
> You can buy an ultrasonic leak detector on Ebay for a lot less than
> Grainger.
>
> In a message dated 10/13/2010 12:31:22 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> skyking76t(at)verizon.net writes:
>
> Bill,
>
> Do you have the part number for the leak detector?
>
> Tony
>
> --- On *Wed, 10/13/10, Bill Culberson
> //* wrote:
>
>
> From: Bill Culberson <bculberson(at)staraviation.com>
> Subject: RE: L29-List: External Tanks
> <<>>
>
> **
--
If you're an American, just say NO to the Obamanation and to Soros!
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Bill Geipel" <czech6(at)mesanetworks.net> |
| Subject: | Re: External Tanks |
Send pix and description.
czech6(at)mesanetworks.net
----- Original Message -----
From: delfin(at)mail.pf
To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
I have a electric compressor with filters, in place of the IFF (front,
right) who deliver me compressed air for brakes (works at 20 psi, stops
at 50)
Jean de Roubin
B. P. 8455
98 703 - FAA'A
Polyn=E9sie fran=E7aise
Tel : (+689)742620
Mail : delfin(at)mail.pf
Le 13 oct. 2010 =E0 09:09, Bill Culberson a =E9crit :
I have used scuba air for the last 3 years and they guy that had it
before me used scuba seven years before that. I have spent some time
working on mine recently making sure it will hold air as long as
possible. In doing so, I have removed a check a number of components and
have had no corrosion to speak of. As long as it=92s DRY, I think that
is the most significant issue. I=92d be curious to know what other L-29
guys are using=85.
BTW, I found a pretty cool ultrasonic leak detector from Grainger that
is pretty amazing. It surprised me how many really small leaks I had.
Detector was so sensitive and found so many leaks (and one bad reducer)
that she will hold 70 bar for months at a time now=85
Bill
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----
From: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Royal
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 1:27 PM
To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
Maybe better to stay with the nitrogen than dry air?
--- On Wed, 10/13/10, Bill Geipel
wrote:
From: Bill Geipel <czech6(at)mesanetworks.net>
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 11:50 AM
Dry air is never dryer than Nitro. But it works.
----- Original Message -----
From: Anthony Royal
To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
So, dry air can be used in place of the nitrogen? Great
idea and cheaper too. Plenty of SCUBA shops around my area. I under
stand they are 20 cu/ft tanks. Should be able to get aluminum tanks that
are DOT approved and that solves the FAA problem.
Thanks!
Tony
--- On Wed, 10/13/10, Neville+/or Liz Cameron
wrote:
From: Neville+/or Liz Cameron <ncam(at)wave.co.nz>
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 1:16 AM
If I was doing it again, I would replace the nitrogen
and oxygen tanks with removable dive tanks, clipped in, and take them
out and just get them refilled, lots of tyre shops use nitrogen, but I
just used air in mine.
Regards
Neville
On 13/10/2010, at 4:33 PM, Bill Geipel wrote:
who did you buy it from?
----- Original Message -----
From: Anthony Royal
To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
Hey David,
Wish I could accomodate you but I am taking an
instructor along and this will be my training for the type rating. I had
an LOA in 2000 but didn't change it to a type rating. So I have to do
the training over. But I'll keep you in mind for the future.
Regards
Tony
--- On Tue, 10/12/10, David
wrote:
From: David <ainut(at)knology.net>
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 12:12 AM
I wonder if a scuba dive shop would check
those bottles? They check scuba bottles, up to 5-7,000 psi routinely.
If you need a copilot for your MN to VA trip
and can use a copilot with zero hours jet time, I might be available.
Depends on the time frame.
David
> Could someone out there maybe help with a
problem? I am preparing to transfer my newly acquired L-29 from
Minnesota to Virginia. I am trying to install the external fuel tanks
but can't get the hardpoint hooks to close on the support rods. I was
told all that was needed was to push the support rods into the latches.
When this is done, the hook closes around the rod but doesn't lock. As
soon as pressure is released, the hooks springs open. Seems to be in the
jettison position all the time.
> We've tried all the switch combinations on
the armament panel and still open. Checked all the right panel switches
in the F/C and R/C and schematics but still no cigar. Could someone tell
me how to set the hooks into the closed position? Only other solution is
to put a bolt thru the mechansim to hold the hook in the closed
position.
> Another issue. Can the Czech NO2 and O2
bottles be hydro tested in the US and be DOT approved if they pass? I've
heard they had to be replaced if they are removed from the aircraft. Is
this correct or can they be hydro tested?
> Any advise would be appreciated
> Thanks,
> Anthony
>
> *
>
>
> *
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| Subject: | Re: External Tanks |
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________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: External Tanks |
| From: | "Bill Culberson" <bculberson(at)staraviation.com> |
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________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Anthony Royal <skyking76t(at)verizon.net> |
| Subject: | Re: External Tanks |
me too please!
skyking76t(at)verizon.net
--- On Wed, 10/13/10, Bill Geipel wrote:
From: Bill Geipel <czech6(at)mesanetworks.net>
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 11:25 PM
Send pix and description.
czech6(at)mesanetworks.net
----- Original Message -----
From: delfin(at)mail.pf
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
I have a electric compressor with filters, in place of the IFF (front, righ
t) who deliver me compressed air for brakes (works at 20 psi, stops at 50)
Jean de Roubin
B. P.=C2-8455
98 703 - FAA'A
Polyn=C3=A9sie fran=C3=A7aise
Tel=C2-: (+689)742620
Mail :
=C2-delfin(at)mail.pf
Le 13 oct. 2010 =C3- 09:09, Bill Culberson a =C3=A9crit :
I have used scuba air for the last 3 years and they guy that had it before
me used scuba seven years before that. I have spent some time working on mi
ne recently making sure it will hold air as long as possible. In doing so,
I have removed a check a number of components and have had no corrosion to
speak of. As long as it=99s DRY, I think that is the most significant
issue. I=99d be curious to know what other L-29 guys are using
.
BTW, I found a pretty cool ultrasonic leak detector from Grainger that is p
retty amazing. It surprised me how many really small leaks I had. Detector
was so sensitive and found so many leaks (and one bad reducer) that she wil
l hold 70 bar for months at a time now
Bill
From: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-l29-list-server@mat
ronics.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Royal
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
Maybe better to stay with the nitrogen than dry air?
--- On Wed, 10/13/10, Bill Geipel wrote:
From: Bill Geipel <czech6(at)mesanetworks.net>
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 11:50 AM
Dry air is never dryer than Nitro. But it works.
----- Original Message -----
From: Anthony Royal
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
So, dry air can be used in place of the nitrogen? Great idea and cheaper to
o. Plenty of SCUBA shops around my area.=C2-I under stand they are 20 cu/
ft tanks. Should be able to get aluminum tanks that are DOT approved and th
at solves the FAA problem.
Thanks!
Tony
--- On Wed, 10/13/10, Neville+/or Liz Cameron wrote:
From: Neville+/or Liz Cameron <ncam(at)wave.co.nz>
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 1:16 AM
If I was doing it again, I would replace the nitrogen and oxygen tanks with
removable dive tanks, clipped in, and take them out and just get them refi
lled, lots of tyre shops use nitrogen, but I just used air in mine.
Regards
Neville
On 13/10/2010, at 4:33 PM, Bill Geipel wrote:
who did you buy it from?
----- Original Message -----
From:=C2-Anthony Royal
To:=C2-l29-list(at)matronics.com
Sent:=C2-Tuesday, October 12, 2010 3:59 PM
Subject:=C2-Re: L29-List: External Tanks
Hey David,
Wish I could accomodate you but I am taking an instructor along and this wi
ll be my training for the type rating. I had an LOA in 2000 but didn't chan
ge it to a type rating. So I have to do the training over. But I'll keep yo
u in mind for the future.
Regards
Tony
--- On=C2-Tue, 10/12/10, David=C2-=C2-wrote:
From: David <ainut(at)knology.net>
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
To:=C2-l29-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 12:12 AM
I wonder if a scuba dive shop would check those bottles?=C2- They check s
cuba bottles, up to 5-7,000 psi routinely.
If you need a copilot for your MN to VA trip and can use a copilot with zer
o hours jet time, I might be available.=C2- Depends on the time frame.
David
> Could someone out there maybe help with a problem? I am preparing to tran
sfer my newly acquired L-29 from Minnesota to Virginia . I am trying to ins
tall the external fuel tanks but can't get the hardpoint hooks to close on
the support rods. I was told all that was needed was to push the support ro
ds into the latches. When this is done, the hook closes around the rod but
doesn't lock. As soon as pressure is released, the hooks springs open. Seem
s to be in the jettison position all the time.
> We've tried all the switch combinations on the armament panel and still o
pen. Checked all the right panel switches in the F/C and R/C and schematics
but still no cigar. Could someone tell me how to set the hooks into the cl
osed position? Only other solution is to put a bolt thru the mechansim to h
old the hook in the closed position.
> Another issue. Can the Czech NO2 and O2 bottles be hydro tested in the US
and be DOT approved if they pass? I've heard they had to be replaced if th
ey are removed from the aircraft. Is this correct or can they be hydro test
ed?
> Any advise would be appreciated
> Thanks,
> Anthony
>=C2-
> *
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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
From: Anthony Royal <skyking76t(at)verizon.net>
Date: Fri, October 15, 2010 1:16 am
me too please!
skyking76t(at)verizon.net
--- On Wed, 10/13/10, Bill Geipel wrote:
From: Bill Geipel <czech6(at)mesanetworks.net>
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 11:25 PM
Send pix and description.
czech6(at)mesanetworks.net
----- Original Message -----
From: delfin(at)mail.pf
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
I have a electric compressor with filters, in place of the IFF (front,
right) who deliver me compressed air for brakes (works at 20 psi, stops
at 50) Jean de Roubin
B. P. 8455
98 703 - FAA'A
Polynsie franaise
Tel : (+689)742620
Mail : delfin(at)mail.pf
Le 13 oct. 2010 09:09, Bill Culberson a crit :
I have used scuba air for the last 3 years and they guy that had it
before me used scuba seven years before that. I have spent some time
working on mine recently making sure it will hold air as long as
possible. In doing so, I have removed a check a number of components and
have had no corrosion to speak of. As long as its DRY, I think that
is the most significant issue. Id be curious to know what other L-29
guys are using.
BTW, I found a pretty cool ultrasonic leak detector from Grainger that
is pretty amazing. It surprised me how many really small leaks I had.
Detector was so sensitive and found so many leaks (and one bad reducer)
that she will hold 70 bar for months at a time now
Bill
From: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Royal
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
Maybe better to stay with the nitrogen than dry air?
--- On Wed, 10/13/10, Bill Geipel wrote:
From: Bill Geipel <czech6(at)mesanetworks.net>
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 11:50 AM
Dry air is never dryer than Nitro. But it works.
----- Original Message -----
From: Anthony Royal
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
So, dry air can be used in place of the nitrogen? Great idea and
cheaper too. Plenty of SCUBA shops around my area. I under stand they
are 20 cu/ft tanks. Should be able to get aluminum tanks that are DOT
approved and that solves the FAA problem.
Thanks!
Tony
--- On Wed, 10/13/10, Neville+/or Liz Cameron wrote:
From: Neville+/or Liz Cameron <ncam(at)wave.co.nz>
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 1:16 AM
If I was doing it again, I would replace the nitrogen and oxygen tanks
with removable dive tanks, clipped in, and take them out and just get
them refilled, lots of tyre shops use nitrogen, but I just used air in
mine.
Regards
Neville
On 13/10/2010, at 4:33 PM, Bill Geipel wrote:
who did you buy it from?
----- Original Message -----
From: Anthony Royal
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
Hey David,
Wish I could accomodate you but I am taking an instructor along and this
will be my training for the type rating. I had an LOA in 2000 but didn't
change it to a type rating. So I have to do the training over. But I'll
keep you in mind for the future.
Regards
Tony
--- On Tue, 10/12/10, David wrote:
From: David <ainut(at)knology.net>
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 12:12 AM
I wonder if a scuba dive shop would check those bottles? They check
scuba bottles, up to 5-7,000 psi routinely.
If you need a copilot for your MN to VA trip and can use a copilot with
zero hours jet time, I might be available. Depends on the time frame.
David
> Could someone out there maybe help with a problem? I am preparing to transfer
my newly acquired L-29 from Minnesota to Virginia . I am trying to install the
external fuel tanks but can't get the hardpoint hooks to close on the support
rods. I was told all that was needed was to push the support rods into the latches.
When this is done, the hook closes around the rod but doesn't lock. As
soon as pressure is released, the hooks springs open. Seems to be in the jettison
position all the time.
> We've tried all the switch combinations on the armament panel and still open.
Checked all the right panel switches in the F/C and R/C and schematics but still
no cigar. Could someone tell me how to set the hooks into the closed position?
Only other solution is to put a bolt thru the mechansim to hold the hook
in the closed position.
> Another issue. Can the Czech NO2 and O2 bottles be hydro tested in the US and
be DOT approved if they pass? I've heard they had to be replaced if they are
removed from the aircraft. Is this correct or can they be hydro tested?
> Any advise would be appreciated
> Thanks,
> Anthony
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The compressor is in place on my plane in 1998. Its always works well.
It il in place in the front, right side, where was the originally IFF.
It is an electric compressor with a switch on the mail panel, front
place. I put it off when aerobatics.
You have to check the oil once a year.
It is on bigs silent-blocs.
It gives air pressure for everything, except the rear canopy seal.
Begins to work at 20 psi, stops at 50.
Takes 14 minutes from 0 to 50 psi, and 7 from 30 to 50.
There is a water draining to be open after each flight.
I have no leaks on my air circuit.
Best regards.
Jean de Roubin
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: L-29 Compressor |
| From: | "Bill Culberson" <bculberson(at)staraviation.com> |
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| Subject: | Re: L-29 Compressor |
Sorry, it is not psi but Bar.
I have no idea of make and model. I think it is a czech one.
Jean
Le 14 oct. 2010 =E0 14:32, Bill Culberson a =E9crit :
Wow, that's pretty cool. One question though. Do you mean PSI or BAR
(ATM). Minimum onboard air pressure is 50 BAR which is about 725 PSI.
Max is 150 BAR or 2175 PSI. If your electric air compressor goes to 725
PSI in 15 minutes and you have had no moisture related failures of your
air system, I'd like to buy one. Do you have a make and model for it?
Thanks!
BTW, make/model for ultrasonic leak detector is Amprobe UT-300...
----- Original Message -----
From: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com
Sent: Thu Oct 14 19:05:47 2010
Subject: L29-List: L-29 Compressor
The compressor is in place on my plane in 1998. Its always works well.
It il in place in the front, right side, where was the originally IFF.
It is an electric compressor with a switch on the mail panel, front
place. I put it off when aerobatics.
You have to check the oil once a year.
It is on bigs silent-blocs.
It gives air pressure for everything, except the rear canopy seal.
Begins to work at 20 psi, stops at 50.
Takes 14 minutes from 0 to 50 psi, and 7 from 30 to 50.
There is a water draining to be open after each flight.
I have no leaks on my air circuit.
Best regards.
Jean de Roubin
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Bill Geipel" <czech6(at)mesanetworks.net> |
| Subject: | Re: L-29 Compressor |
send pictures of compressor.
----- Original Message -----
From: delfin(at)mail.pf
To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: L29-List: L-29 Compressor
Sorry, it is not psi but Bar.
I have no idea of make and model. I think it is a czech one.
Jean
Le 14 oct. 2010 =E0 14:32, Bill Culberson a =E9crit :
Wow, that's pretty cool. One question though. Do you mean PSI or BAR
(ATM). Minimum onboard air pressure is 50 BAR which is about 725 PSI.
Max is 150 BAR or 2175 PSI. If your electric air compressor goes to 725
PSI in 15 minutes and you have had no moisture related failures of your
air system, I'd like to buy one. Do you have a make and model for it?
Thanks!
BTW, make/model for ultrasonic leak detector is Amprobe UT-300...
----- Original Message -----
From: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com
To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Thu Oct 14 19:05:47 2010
Subject: L29-List: L-29 Compressor
The compressor is in place on my plane in 1998. Its always works well.
It il in place in the front, right side, where was the originally IFF.
It is an electric compressor with a switch on the mail panel, front
place. I put it off when aerobatics.
You have to check the oil once a year.
It is on bigs silent-blocs.
It gives air pressure for everything, except the rear canopy seal.
Begins to work at 20 psi, stops at 50.
Takes 14 minutes from 0 to 50 psi, and 7 from 30 to 50.
There is a water draining to be open after each flight.
I have no leaks on my air circuit.
Best regards.
Jean de Roubin
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ontribution
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| From: | "franknlynn" <franklynn19(at)westnet.com.au> |
| Subject: | electric compressor and filters... |
add me to that list also please...
Frank Deeth
tr.9(at)westnet.com.au
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Bill Geipel" <czech6(at)mesanetworks.net> |
New set L-29 tires (3) and tubes $775. Anyone interested?
Bill czech6(at)mesanetworks.net
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | <fly(at)topredwarbirds.com.au> |
Yes Bill
I need a new set
Can you see how much US postal service is to Australia
regards Tim Windsor
Topred Warbirds
Hunter Valley
0412881016
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: L29-List: tires
From: "Bill Geipel" <czech6(at)mesanetworks.net>
Date: Sat, October 16, 2010 7:04 am
New set L-29 tires (3) and tubes $775. Anyone interested?
Bill czech6(at)mesanetworks.net
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Bill Geipel" <czech6(at)mesanetworks.net> |
I get a good deal with FedEx. (I work for them) I'll let you know.
----- Original Message -----
From: <fly(at)topredwarbirds.com.au>
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 5:19 PM
Subject: RE: L29-List: tires
>
> Yes Bill
> I need a new set
> Can you see how much US postal service is to Australia
>
> regards Tim Windsor
> Topred Warbirds
> Hunter Valley
> 0412881016
>
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: L29-List: tires
> From: "Bill Geipel" <czech6(at)mesanetworks.net>
> Date: Sat, October 16, 2010 7:04 am
> To:
>
> New set L-29 tires (3) and tubes $775. Anyone interested?
>
> Bill czech6(at)mesanetworks.net
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Bill Geipel" <czech6(at)mesanetworks.net> |
These tires are $775 delivered to Colorado from Czech. Not bad for 3
tires/tubes including shipping.
I am going to order 15 sets. If you want any, we have 7 sets left.
Bill
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jorgen Nielsen" <jorgen.nielsen(at)mweb.co.za> |
| Subject: | L29 aileron, flap, rudder and horizontal stabilizer |
Hi All
Just a reminder that I have some new aileron, flap, rudder and horizontal
stabilizer if anyone needs them. Still wrapped, complete with fittings such
as the rollers on the flaps etc.
Any interest drop me a mail.
Regards
Jorgen
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jorgen Nielsen" <jorgen.nielsen(at)mweb.co.za> |
| Subject: | L29 air system mod |
Been some discussion around the air system - Jean shared his compressor
modification which is great.
For those wanting to do the same, one could use an old Cornelius compressor
- its a 3 stage driven by an 24V electric motor. People used to buy them
surplus and rig up homebrew compressors, some googling should reveal more.
>From a ground handling perspective the Achilles heel of the L29 is the air
system - if you flying away somewhere, its necessary to send air ahead by
road, or arrange air at the destination - either scuba air or Nitrogen, both
work perfect. I have done this!
To get around this, I also came up with an idea and made a modification
which has worked trouble free now for 3 years.
I never fly above 20,000ft so do not need oxygen. I therefore replaced the
oxygen tanks with additional "normal" tanks. Lets call the standard system
the "A" tanks, and the additional set the "B" tanks. Each set of tanks has
a shut off valve which then goes into a t-fitting - the middle of which
feeds the aircraft air system. So one or both valves has to be open for
flight. Operation is simple - if its a local flight open say the "A" system
valve, check pressure, add air if required and fly. After the flight, close
the valve. All the air stays in the tank as there are no losses downstream.
For away flights, I open both valves, fill up the system, close off say the
"B" system, and fly. On landing, I shut off the valve. I can then leave
the aircraft, knowing that when I return it has not lost any air. I can fly
several sorties, all on the first "A" set of tanks. And I still have a full
set of "B" tanks. So when the first set gets low on pressure, I simply use
the other set.
It works great. I made one away trip about 2 months back where I flew to
destination, flew 3 sorties, and flew back, several days later. And still
had lots of air.
The other great thing about this mod is that the standard system has 8l of
air, the secondary system has 12l. So the mod takes the air carried on
board from 8l to 20l in total ( or to be precise from 1200l to 3000l at 150
bar) , and the ability to shut off the tanks means no lost air when on the
ground.
You have to remember to open a set of tanks before flight - I preflight in
the normal way, and open the air system then check in the rear cockpit that
not only the main air system is ok, but also the backup air. After start,
my final pre-taxi check is the pneumatic pressure - I then roll forward and
check brakes, and re-check pneumatic pressure. There should be no change.
If you open the air, then close it again, the gauge will drop about 20-30
bar from one brake application.
Regards Jorgen
________________________________________________________________________________
Doesn't Desser Tire in the USA make new tires for the L-29?
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | delfin <delfin_driver(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: L29 air system mod |
=0A-=0AWhat type of high pressure- shut off valve is used. Must be reli
albe to avoid =0Aleaking=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom
: Jorgen Nielsen =0ATo: l29-list(at)matronics.com
=0ASent: Sun, October 17, 2010 4:04:38 PM=0ASubject: L29-List: L29 air syst
em mod=0A=0A=0ABeen some discussion around the air system - Jean shared his
compressor =0Amodification which is great.=0A-=0AFor those wanting to do
the same, one could use an old Cornelius compressor - =0Aits a 3 stage dri
ven by an 24V electric motor.- People used to buy them surplus =0Aand rig
up homebrew compressors, some googling should reveal more.=0A-=0AFrom a
ground handling perspective the Achilles heel of the L29 is the air =0Asyst
em - if you flying away somewhere, its necessary to send air ahead by road,
=0Aor arrange air at the destination - either scuba air or Nitrogen, both
work =0Aperfect.- I have done this!=0A-=0ATo get around this, I also ca
me up with an idea and made a modification which =0Ahas worked trouble free
now for 3 years.=0A-=0AI never fly above 20,000ft so do not need oxygen.
- I therefore replaced the =0Aoxygen tanks with additional "normal" tanks
.- Lets call the standard system the =0A"A" tanks, and the additional set
the "B" tanks.- Each set- of tanks has a shut =0Aoff valve which then
goes into a t-fitting - the middle of which feeds the =0Aaircraft air syste
m.- So one or both valves has to be open for flight.- =0AOperation is s
imple - if its a local flight open say the "A" system valve, check =0Apress
ure, add air if required and fly.- After the flight, close the valve.-
All =0Athe air stays in the tank as there are no losses downstream. -=0A
-=0AFor away flights, I open both valves, fill up the system, close off s
ay the "B" =0Asystem, and fly.- On landing, I shut off the valve.- I ca
n then leave the =0Aaircraft, knowing that when I return it has not lost an
y air.- I can fly several =0Asorties, all on the first "A" set of tanks.
- And I still have a full set of "B" =0Atanks.- So when the first set g
ets low on pressure, I simply use the other set.=0A-=0AIt works great.-
I made one away trip about 2 months back where I flew to =0Adestination, f
lew 3 sorties, and flew back, several days later.- And still had =0Alots
of air.=0A-=0AThe other great thing about this mod is that the standard s
ystem has 8l of air, =0Athe secondary system has 12l.- So the mod takes t
he air carried on board from 8l =0Ato 20l in total ( or to be precise from
1200l to 3000l at 150 bar) , and the =0Aability to shut off the tanks means
no lost air when on the ground. =0A=0A-=0AYou have to remember to open a
set of tanks before flight - I preflight in the =0Anormal way, and open th
e air system then check in the rear cockpit that not only =0Athe main air s
ystem is ok, but also the backup air.- After start, my final =0Apre-taxi
check is the pneumatic pressure - I then roll forward and check brakes, =0A
and re-check pneumatic pressure.- There should be no change.- If you op
en the =0Aair, then close it again, the gauge will drop about 20-30 bar fro
m one brake =0Aapplication.=0A-=0ARegards Jorgen=0A-=0A-=0A-=0A-
================ =0A=0A=0A=0A
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Bill Geipel" <czech6(at)mesanetworks.net> |
I called and they said no. They also said they would recap them but
haven't done that either. We sent them
some but they hadn't done it yet.
----- Original Message -----
From: SD737(at)aol.com
To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 9:26 AM
Subject: Re: L29-List: tires
Doesn't Desser Tire in the USA make new tires for the L-29?
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | <fly(at)topredwarbirds.com.au> |
Guys
About to do engine runs on my jet
Have got the cockpit labels in english to put on
But does anyone have a diagram in english labeling all the switches ,
levers instruments etc....so I know where to put labels?
regards Tim Windsor
Topred Warbirds
Hunter Valley
0412881016
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: L29-List: L-29 Compressor
From: "Bill Geipel" <czech6(at)mesanetworks.net>
Date: Fri, October 15, 2010 12:04 pm
send pictures of compressor.
----- Original Message -----
From: delfin(at)mail.pf
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: L29-List: L-29 Compressor
Sorry, it is not psi but Bar. I have no idea of make and model. I think
it is a czech one.
Jean
Le 14 oct. 2010 14:32, Bill Culberson a crit :
Wow, that's pretty cool. One question though. Do you mean PSI or BAR
(ATM). Minimum onboard air pressure is 50 BAR which is about 725 PSI.
Max is 150 BAR or 2175 PSI. If your electric air compressor goes to 725
PSI in 15 minutes and you have had no moisture related failures of your
air system, I'd like to buy one. Do you have a make and model for it?
Thanks!
BTW, make/model for ultrasonic leak detector is Amprobe UT-300...
----- Original Message -----
From: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com
Sent: Thu Oct 14 19:05:47 2010
Subject: L29-List: L-29 Compressor
The compressor is in place on my plane in 1998. Its always works well.
It il in place in the front, right side, where was the originally IFF.
It is an electric compressor with a switch on the mail panel, front
place. I put it off when aerobatics.
You have to check the oil once a year.
It is on bigs silent-blocs.
It gives air pressure for everything, except the rear canopy seal.
Begins to work at 20 psi, stops at 50.
Takes 14 minutes from 0 to 50 psi, and 7 from 30 to 50.
There is a water draining to be open after each flight.
I have no leaks on my air circuit.
Best regards.
Jean de Roubin
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| Subject: | Re: L-29 Compressor |
In French, if you want.
Jean de Roubin
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | delfin <delfin_driver(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: L-29 Compressor |
labels=0A=0Ayes will send when I return USA=0A=0Abob=0A=0A \=0A=0A=0A=0A
=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: "fly(at)topredwarbirds.com.au"
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=0ABut does anyone have a diagram in english labeling all the switches ,
=0Alevers instruments etc....so I know where to put labels? =0A=0A=0Aregar
ds Tim Windsor=0ATopred Warbirds=0AHunter Valley=0A0412881016=0A=0A=0A=0A--
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=0AFrom: "Bill Geipel" <czech6(at)mesanetworks.net>=0ADate: Fri, October 15, 2
010 12:04 pm=0ATo: =0A=0Asend pictures of compresso
r.=0A----- Original Message ----- =0AFrom: delfin(at)mail.pf =0ATo: l29-list@m
atronics.com =0ASent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 8:12 PM=0ASubject: Re: L29
-List: L-29 Compressor=0A=0A=0ASorry, it is not psi but Bar. I have no ide
a of make and model. I think=0Ait is a czech one.=0AJean=0A Le 14 oct. 201
0 =E0 14:32, Bill Culberson a =E9crit :=0A=0A Wow, that's pretty cool. One
question though. Do you mean PSI or BAR=0A(ATM). Minimum onboard air press
ure is 50 BAR which is about 725 PSI.=0AMax is 150 BAR or 2175 PSI. If your
electric air compressor goes to 725=0APSI in 15 minutes and you have had n
o moisture related failures of your=0Aair system, I'd like to buy one. Do
you have a make and model for it?=0AThanks!=0A=0ABTW, make/model for ultras
onic leak detector is Amprobe UT-300...=0A=0A----- Original Message -----
=0AFrom: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com=0A<owner-l29-list-server@matro
nics.com>=0ATo: l29-list(at)matronics.com =0ASent: Thu
Oct 14 19:05:47 2010=0ASubject: L29-List: L-29 Compressor=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ATh
e compressor is in place on my plane in 1998. Its always works well.=0AIt i
l in place in the front, right side, where was the originally IFF.=0AIt is
an electric compressor with a switch on the mail panel, front=0Aplace. I pu
t it off when aerobatics.=0AYou have to check the oil once a year.=0AIt is
on bigs silent-blocs.=0AIt gives air pressure for everything, except the re
ar canopy seal.=0ABegins to work at 20 psi, stops at 50.=0ATakes 14 minutes
from 0 to 50 psi, and 7 from 30 to 50.=0AThere is a water draining to be o
pen after each flight.=0AI have no leaks on my air circuit.=0ABest regards.
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OK Thanks Bob
I'll get tback to you about ongoing parts
regards Tim Windsor
Topred Warbirds
Hunter Valley
0412881016
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: L29-List: L-29 Compressor
From: delfin <delfin_driver(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, October 20, 2010 5:54 am
labels
yes will send when I return USA
bob
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From: "fly(at)topredwarbirds.com.au" <fly(at)topredwarbirds.com.au>
Sent: Tue, October 19, 2010 1:55:25 PM
Subject: RE: L29-List: L-29 Compressor
Guys
About to do engine runs on my jet
Have got the cockpit labels in english to put on
But does anyone have a diagram in english labeling all the switches ,
levers instruments etc....so I know where to put labels?
regards Tim Windsor
Topred Warbirds
Hunter Valley
0412881016
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: L29-List: L-29 Compressor
From: "Bill Geipel" <czech6(at)mesanetworks.net>
Date: Fri, October 15, 2010 12:04 pm
send pictures of compressor.
----- Original Message -----
From: delfin(at)mail.pf
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: L29-List: L-29 Compressor
Sorry, it is not psi but Bar. I have no idea of make and model. I think
it is a czech one.
Jean
Le 14 oct. 2010 14:32, Bill Culberson a crit :
Wow, that's pretty cool. One question though. Do you mean PSI or BAR
(ATM). Minimum onboard air pressure is 50 BAR which is about 725 PSI.
Max is 150 BAR or 2175 PSI. If your electric air compressor goes to 725
PSI in 15 minutes and you have had no moisture related failures of your
air system, I'd like to buy one. Do you have a make and model for it?
Thanks!
BTW, make/model for ultrasonic leak detector is Amprobe UT-300...
----- Original Message -----
From: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com
Sent: Thu Oct 14 19:05:47 2010
Subject: L29-List: L-29 Compressor
The compressor is in place on my plane in 1998. Its always works well.
It il in place in the front, right side, where was the originally IFF.
It is an electric compressor with a switch on the mail panel, front
place. I put it off when aerobatics.
You have to check the oil once a year.
It is on bigs silent-blocs.
It gives air pressure for everything, except the rear canopy seal.
Begins to work at 20 psi, stops at 50.
Takes 14 minutes from 0 to 50 psi, and 7 from 30 to 50.
There is a water draining to be open after each flight.
I have no leaks on my air circuit.
Best regards.
Jean de Roubin
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| From: | <fly(at)topredwarbirds.com.au> |
Thanks Jean
My French is better than my Czech
regards Tim Windsor
Topred Warbirds
Hunter Valley
0412881016
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: L29-List: L-29 Compressor
From: delfin(at)mail.pf
Date: Tue, October 19, 2010 9:20 pm
In French, if you want.
Jean de Roubin
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jorgen Nielsen" <jorgen.nielsen(at)mweb.co.za> |
Hi Tim
Is it not clear from the manuals? There are schematics showing cockpit layout with
all the switches and gauges etc.
80/20 rule probably applies, you will figure out 80%, and 20% will give a problem.
Just mail the list for specifics.
Out of interest how did you do the labels? Probably been an issue for most of
us at this time. I remastered them, if anyone wants I am happy to mail them.
Took me days of fiddling on my PC and now I don't even use them - was going to
remake them all in english as per original, engraved and letters painted with
glow paint for the UV lights, but I did a trial first with paper labels I printed
myself (sealed with hairspray). Anyway that was 6 years back and some have
fallen off now, but I don't need them anymore. The only switches I cannot
identify from memory are the circuit breakers on the RHS.
You may want to consider safety wiring the relevant switches in rear cockpit to
the correct position to prevent inadvertent operation and loss of pitot / static
data, roll and pitch data etc. Or the pax dropping your tanks as what happened
here in SA by a journo cadging a ride. (luckily over farmland just before
descending over a city (cretin)).
I found the easy way was to dlightly unscrew the screw on the switch on the proper
side, slip the wire around the screw and the switch lever, and safety in position.
Afterward re-tighten the screw.
Regards Jorgen
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of fly(at)topredwarbirds.com.au
Sent: 19 October 2010 12:55 PM
Subject: RE: L29-List: L-29 Compressor
Guys
About to do engine runs on my jet
Have got the cockpit labels in english to put on
But does anyone have a diagram in english labeling all the switches ,
levers instruments etc....so I know where to put labels?
regards Tim Windsor
Topred Warbirds
Hunter Valley
0412881016
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: L29-List: L-29 Compressor
From: "Bill Geipel" <czech6(at)mesanetworks.net>
Date: Fri, October 15, 2010 12:04 pm
send pictures of compressor.
----- Original Message -----
From: delfin(at)mail.pf
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: L29-List: L-29 Compressor
Sorry, it is not psi but Bar. I have no idea of make and model. I think
it is a czech one.
Jean
Le 14 oct. 2010 14:32, Bill Culberson a crit :
Wow, that's pretty cool. One question though. Do you mean PSI or BAR
(ATM). Minimum onboard air pressure is 50 BAR which is about 725 PSI.
Max is 150 BAR or 2175 PSI. If your electric air compressor goes to 725
PSI in 15 minutes and you have had no moisture related failures of your
air system, I'd like to buy one. Do you have a make and model for it?
Thanks!
BTW, make/model for ultrasonic leak detector is Amprobe UT-300...
----- Original Message -----
From: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com
Sent: Thu Oct 14 19:05:47 2010
Subject: L29-List: L-29 Compressor
The compressor is in place on my plane in 1998. Its always works well.
It il in place in the front, right side, where was the originally IFF.
It is an electric compressor with a switch on the mail panel, front
place. I put it off when aerobatics.
You have to check the oil once a year.
It is on bigs silent-blocs.
It gives air pressure for everything, except the rear canopy seal.
Begins to work at 20 psi, stops at 50.
Takes 14 minutes from 0 to 50 psi, and 7 from 30 to 50.
There is a water draining to be open after each flight.
I have no leaks on my air circuit.
Best regards.
Jean de Roubin
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| From: | <fly(at)topredwarbirds.com.au> |
Gents
If you go to the YakUK website they have the labels to download along
with other good L29 and Yak gen
I had my local sign run guy them off on the correct adhesive paper
Now I just need to figure out where to stick them
By the way my sign guy tells me he can make them glow in the dark ,
infra red capable etc etc.....
Depends how much you want to spend
Thanks for the advice Jorgen , I will certainly be lockwireing the back
switches
I don't want my joy flights turning into simulator sessions
regards Tim Windsor
Topred Warbirds
Hunter Valley
0412881016
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: L29-List: L-29 Compressor
From: "Jorgen Nielsen" <jorgen.nielsen(at)mweb.co.za>
Date: Wed, October 20, 2010 8:27 am
Hi Tim
Is it not clear from the manuals? There are schematics showing cockpit
layout with all the switches and gauges etc.
80/20 rule probably applies, you will figure out 80%, and 20% will give
a problem. Just mail the list for specifics.
Out of interest how did you do the labels? Probably been an issue for
most of us at this time. I remastered them, if anyone wants I am happy
to mail them. Took me days of fiddling on my PC and now I don't even use
them - was going to remake them all in english as per original, engraved
and letters painted with glow paint for the UV lights, but I did a trial
first with paper labels I printed myself (sealed with hairspray). Anyway
that was 6 years back and some have fallen off now, but I don't need
them anymore. The only switches I cannot identify from memory are the
circuit breakers on the RHS.
You may want to consider safety wiring the relevant switches in rear
cockpit to the correct position to prevent inadvertent operation and
loss of pitot / static data, roll and pitch data etc. Or the pax
dropping your tanks as what happened here in SA by a journo cadging a
ride. (luckily over farmland just before descending over a city
(cretin)).
I found the easy way was to dlightly unscrew the screw on the switch on
the proper side, slip the wire around the screw and the switch lever,
and safety in position. Afterward re-tighten the screw.
Regards Jorgen
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
fly(at)topredwarbirds.com.au
Sent: 19 October 2010 12:55 PM
Subject: RE: L29-List: L-29 Compressor
Guys
About to do engine runs on my jet
Have got the cockpit labels in english to put on
But does anyone have a diagram in english labeling all the switches ,
levers instruments etc....so I know where to put labels?
regards Tim Windsor
Topred Warbirds
Hunter Valley
0412881016
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: L29-List: L-29 Compressor
From: "Bill Geipel" <czech6(at)mesanetworks.net>
Date: Fri, October 15, 2010 12:04 pm
send pictures of compressor.
----- Original Message -----
From: delfin(at)mail.pf
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: L29-List: L-29 Compressor
Sorry, it is not psi but Bar. I have no idea of make and model. I think
it is a czech one.
Jean
Le 14 oct. 2010 14:32, Bill Culberson a crit :
Wow, that's pretty cool. One question though. Do you mean PSI or BAR
(ATM). Minimum onboard air pressure is 50 BAR which is about 725 PSI.
Max is 150 BAR or 2175 PSI. If your electric air compressor goes to 725
PSI in 15 minutes and you have had no moisture related failures of your
air system, I'd like to buy one. Do you have a make and model for it?
Thanks!
BTW, make/model for ultrasonic leak detector is Amprobe UT-300...
----- Original Message -----
From: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com
Sent: Thu Oct 14 19:05:47 2010
Subject: L29-List: L-29 Compressor
The compressor is in place on my plane in 1998. Its always works well.
It il in place in the front, right side, where was the originally IFF.
It is an electric compressor with a switch on the mail panel, front
place. I put it off when aerobatics.
You have to check the oil once a year.
It is on bigs silent-blocs.
It gives air pressure for everything, except the rear canopy seal.
Begins to work at 20 psi, stops at 50.
Takes 14 minutes from 0 to 50 psi, and 7 from 30 to 50.
There is a water draining to be open after each flight.
I have no leaks on my air circuit.
Best regards.
Jean de Roubin
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| From: | delfin <l29delfin(at)yahoo.com> |
I am looking to replace the rubber fuel line hose that attaches to the low
=0Apressure fuel pump.--This hose is about- 2 1/2 inches long and app
ears to be- 1 =0A1/16 ID--- (27mm) I believe.---- I cant fi
nd any sources for fuel hose in this =0Asize.-- Any ideas or any overse
es-- hose sources?---- thanks=0A=0APS-- 1 inch is-to smal
l and-- 1- 1/8-- to big=0A=0A=0A
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Bill Geipel" <czech6(at)mesanetworks.net> |
Call Doug Weske in Minnesota. Air Investments.
----- Original Message -----
From: delfin
To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 9:32 AM
Subject: L29-List: L29
I am looking to replace the rubber fuel line hose that attaches to the
low pressure fuel pump. This hose is about 2 1/2 inches long and
appears to be 1 1/16 ID (27mm) I believe. I cant find any
sources for fuel hose in this size. Any ideas or any oversees hose
sources? thanks
PS 1 inch is to small and 1 1/8 to big
________________________________________________________________________________
Any idea where to find ejection cartridges et fire extinguisher ?
Jean de Roubin
Le 2 nov. 2010 =E0 05:43, Bill Geipel a =E9crit :
Call Doug Weske in Minnesota. Air Investments.
----- Original Message -----
From: delfin
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 9:32 AM
Subject: L29-List: L29
I am looking to replace the rubber fuel line hose that attaches to the
low pressure fuel pump. This hose is about 2 1/2 inches long and
appears to be 1 1/16 ID (27mm) I believe. I cant find any
sources for fuel hose in this size. Any ideas or any oversees hose
sources? thanks
PS 1 inch is to small and 1 1/8 to big
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| From: | "Paul" <paulhath(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | L-29 Gear videos |
Anyone have close-up video of nose and main gear retraction / extension
that shows all the greasy bits moving in formation?
That would be a good addition to l-29.org
Email me if you are willing to share.
Cheers
Paul
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| From: | "Bill Geipel" <czech6(at)mesanetworks.net> |
Factory overhauled M701 still in box. Cheap!
Anyone interested?
czech6(at)mesanetworks.net
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| From: | David <ainut(at)knology.net> |
how cheap is cheap? :)
David
Bill Geipel wrote:
> Factory overhauled M701 still in box. Cheap!
> Anyone interested?
> czech6(at)mesanetworks.net
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