L39-Archive.digest.vol-aa
November 24, 2002 - November 03, 2011
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | First Message to New L39 List! |
This is a first message to the new L-39 email list. Discussions are
related to the L-39 aircraft. All are welcome to subscribe.
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Welcome to the New L-39 Email Group! |
Greetings,
My name is Matt Dralle and I am the Administrator for the Matronics Email
Lists. I was asked by Jon Boede if I would be interested in setting up an
email list for the L-39 Group and I said that I'd be most happy to!
I will be shortly sending out a List FAQ with LOTS of information on the
myriad of services related to this new List. These include the Archive
Search Engine, List Browser, Photoshare, and Archive Download.
I think you will really enjoy the service here. I put a lot of personal
work into the Lists including primarily all custom code. If there are
features or enhancements you'd like to see, please let me know. I can't
promise that I can get to everything, but I do try to please the best I can.
As I mentioned, I will shortly email out the List FAQ which I just
completely rewrote today in honor of the new List. Please read it over
carefully. There is a lot of important and useful information within and
it will greatly increase the fulfillment you receive during your time here.
Additionally, you will notice that at the bottom of each message posted to
this List is a large trailer with TONs of handy links to the Archives, List
Browser, Photoshare, and Download. Click on them all! Have fun! That's
what its all about.
To post a message to this list, simply send an email to:
l39-list(at)matronics.com
Your message will be redistributed to everyone on the List.
Note that there are two forms of this List - the Realtime version and the
Digest version. The differences are detailed in the FAQ. Basically, the
realtime redistributes each of the messages as they come in and the digest
version saves up the day's messages and sends them all out in a single
message at the end of the day.
I have initially subscribed everyone that Jon forwarded to me to BOTH the
realtime and digest versions of the List. In a couple of days, you might
want to unsubscribe from one or the other depending on your
preferences. You can do that at the Email List Subscription web site. The
URL for this is:
http://www.matronics.com/subscribe
Please read the directions carefully!
First thing you'll notice about the Matronics Lists is the lack of
commercialism. I don't allow any direct commercial advertising on the
Lists either within the email messages themselves or on any of the
List-related web pages. No pop-up or banner ads. Just clean, forum
discussions.
What's the catch? Well, to support the continued operation and upkeep of
the Lists I have a "Fund Raiser" every November. During the month, I send
out a message every few days, asking for Contributions. Its kind of like
the PBS telethon really. Its low-key, and completely voluntary and
non-compulsory. I ask people to contribute an amount equal to the
enjoyment, entertainment and value they receive from the List. Some find
that to be $20, others $30, others $100. Its up to you. The lists are
supported completely through the Contributions of its members. This year
there are even some really nice free gifts to be had with a qualifying
Contribution amount. The Contribution web site address is
http://www.matronics.com/contributions with complete information on the
Fund Raiser and the methods of Contribution.
In any case, I don't want to come off as pushing the whole Contribution
thing too hard. 11 months out of the year I don't even mention
it. November just happens to be the Fund Raiser month and I kind of go on
about it during that time. :-)
In summary, I want to welcome each and everyone of you to the new L-39
email list! I think you will find the services here top notch. I work
hard to keep the Lists running smoothly and I hope it shows. Have a look
at the subscription page listed above and feel free to subscribe to any of
the other Lists that you might find interesting. Some have a lot of
traffic, some don't. But, by nature of an email list, you get what you put
into it!!!
Please read over the FAQ in my next post. It answers most of the questions
you might have about the List operation and policies.
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin.
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | L39-List Invitation |
| From: | "Jon Boede" <jon(at)zoso.email.net> |
Hi, my name is Jon Boede and I own an L-39.*
I'm the guy who arranged for your email address to be subscribed to the
new L39-List at Matronics. Since I put you on, I'll also take
responsibility for getting you unsubscribed if you don't want to do it
yourself.
However, I'd like to invite you to stay. After belonging to the
Yak-List for a while (I also have a Nanchang CJ) I've come to the
conclusion that a mailing list seems to be a better way to build
"critical mass" in a community, something I believe that's missing with
L-39s.
While there are several L-39 discussion web sites, they all suffer from
the same problem... first, since there are several of them, none of them
seems to have become "the" L-39 list. Secondly, you have to go to each
of these boards on a regular basis, and each works a little differently.
By comparison an email list "comes to you"... and to participate, all
you have to do is reply, the way you'd normally reply to email.
Hopefully this will result in easier, more frequent communication.
Not a day goes by on the Yak-List that something doesn't make me think
or at least laugh. I've had the good fortune to get to know about a
dozen L-39 owners and I count several of them among my best friends.
Surely there are other people like this out there -- and I'd like to get
to know them.
I'd asked Matt Dralle to start the L39-List after being so please with
the Yak-List. He also runs quite a few other lists. Matt does this as
a hobby, albeit a hobby that pays for itself. There's a once-a-year
PBS-style fundraiser and then Matt doesn't say much for the rest of the
year. The list itself is strictly non-commercial... no hawking stuff,
if you've something to sell, the list rules suggest that you take it
off-list.
So that's it, an invitation to bring your questions, experience,
stories, and sense of humor. I would ask those of you who regularly get
questions about the L-39 to CC: the list on your replies. Lend a hand,
keep the discussion going.
I look forward to getting to know all of you,
Jon Boede
PS. * Any bearing this remark has to one's self-introduction at an AA
meeting is probably less coincidental than I'd like. :-)
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: L39-List Invitation |
In a message dated 11/26/02 12:05:00 AM Central Standard Time,
jon(at)zoso.email.net writes:
> I'll also take
> responsibility for getting you unsubscribed if you don't want to do it
> yourself.
>
Please unsubscribe,
JPM
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Michael Paletta <MPaletta(at)hom.org> |
| Subject: | L39-List Invitation |
Please remove my name and address from this distribution.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Boede [mailto:jon(at)zoso.email.net]
Subject: L39-List: L39-List Invitation
Hi, my name is Jon Boede and I own an L-39.*
I'm the guy who arranged for your email address to be subscribed to the
new L39-List at Matronics. Since I put you on, I'll also take
responsibility for getting you unsubscribed if you don't want to do it
yourself.
However, I'd like to invite you to stay. After belonging to the
Yak-List for a while (I also have a Nanchang CJ) I've come to the
conclusion that a mailing list seems to be a better way to build
"critical mass" in a community, something I believe that's missing with
L-39s.
While there are several L-39 discussion web sites, they all suffer from
the same problem... first, since there are several of them, none of them
seems to have become "the" L-39 list. Secondly, you have to go to each
of these boards on a regular basis, and each works a little differently.
By comparison an email list "comes to you"... and to participate, all
you have to do is reply, the way you'd normally reply to email.
Hopefully this will result in easier, more frequent communication.
Not a day goes by on the Yak-List that something doesn't make me think
or at least laugh. I've had the good fortune to get to know about a
dozen L-39 owners and I count several of them among my best friends.
Surely there are other people like this out there -- and I'd like to get
to know them.
I'd asked Matt Dralle to start the L39-List after being so please with
the Yak-List. He also runs quite a few other lists. Matt does this as
a hobby, albeit a hobby that pays for itself. There's a once-a-year
PBS-style fundraiser and then Matt doesn't say much for the rest of the
year. The list itself is strictly non-commercial... no hawking stuff,
if you've something to sell, the list rules suggest that you take it
off-list.
So that's it, an invitation to bring your questions, experience,
stories, and sense of humor. I would ask those of you who regularly get
questions about the L-39 to CC: the list on your replies. Lend a hand,
keep the discussion going.
I look forward to getting to know all of you,
Jon Boede
PS. * Any bearing this remark has to one's self-introduction at an AA
meeting is probably less coincidental than I'd like. :-)
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: L39-List Invitation |
remove
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Moore Ronald GS-13 USAFE/XPZF <Ron.Moore(at)ramstein.af.mil> |
| Subject: | L39-List Invitation |
PLEASE REMOVE
-----Original Message-----
From: WParton(at)aol.com [mailto:WParton(at)aol.com]
Subject: Re: L39-List: L39-List Invitation
remove
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Roma Skinner" <roma(at)airmail.net> |
Would anyone know the purpose of the markings in the lower range of the L-39 airspeed
instruments?
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Seidel, Rodger, COL, 110 FW, CC" <Rodger.Seidel(at)mibatt.ang.af.mil> |
| Subject: | L39-List Invitation |
Jon,
Please remove my name from your web-site. I receive over 300 e-mails a day
and have no need to receive any more.
Rodger Seidel
-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Boede [mailto:jon(at)zoso.email.net]
Subject: L39-List: L39-List Invitation
Hi, my name is Jon Boede and I own an L-39.*
I'm the guy who arranged for your email address to be subscribed to the
new L39-List at Matronics. Since I put you on, I'll also take
responsibility for getting you unsubscribed if you don't want to do it
yourself.
However, I'd like to invite you to stay. After belonging to the
Yak-List for a while (I also have a Nanchang CJ) I've come to the
conclusion that a mailing list seems to be a better way to build
"critical mass" in a community, something I believe that's missing with
L-39s.
While there are several L-39 discussion web sites, they all suffer from
the same problem... first, since there are several of them, none of them
seems to have become "the" L-39 list. Secondly, you have to go to each
of these boards on a regular basis, and each works a little differently.
By comparison an email list "comes to you"... and to participate, all
you have to do is reply, the way you'd normally reply to email.
Hopefully this will result in easier, more frequent communication.
Not a day goes by on the Yak-List that something doesn't make me think
or at least laugh. I've had the good fortune to get to know about a
dozen L-39 owners and I count several of them among my best friends.
Surely there are other people like this out there -- and I'd like to get
to know them.
I'd asked Matt Dralle to start the L39-List after being so please with
the Yak-List. He also runs quite a few other lists. Matt does this as
a hobby, albeit a hobby that pays for itself. There's a once-a-year
PBS-style fundraiser and then Matt doesn't say much for the rest of the
year. The list itself is strictly non-commercial... no hawking stuff,
if you've something to sell, the list rules suggest that you take it
off-list.
So that's it, an invitation to bring your questions, experience,
stories, and sense of humor. I would ask those of you who regularly get
questions about the L-39 to CC: the list on your replies. Lend a hand,
keep the discussion going.
I look forward to getting to know all of you,
Jon Boede
PS. * Any bearing this remark has to one's self-introduction at an AA
meeting is probably less coincidental than I'd like. :-)
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Moore Ronald GS-13 USAFE/XPZF <Ron.Moore(at)ramstein.af.mil> |
| Subject: | L39-List Invitation |
Please remove my name from list, it's not legal for Gov e-mail.
Ron
-----Original Message-----
From: Seidel, Rodger, COL, 110 FW, CC
[mailto:Rodger.Seidel(at)mibatt.ang.af.mil]
Subject: RE: L39-List: L39-List Invitation
Jon,
Please remove my name from your web-site. I receive over 300 e-mails a day
and have no need to receive any more.
Rodger Seidel
-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Boede [mailto:jon(at)zoso.email.net]
Subject: L39-List: L39-List Invitation
Hi, my name is Jon Boede and I own an L-39.*
I'm the guy who arranged for your email address to be subscribed to the
new L39-List at Matronics. Since I put you on, I'll also take
responsibility for getting you unsubscribed if you don't want to do it
yourself.
However, I'd like to invite you to stay. After belonging to the
Yak-List for a while (I also have a Nanchang CJ) I've come to the
conclusion that a mailing list seems to be a better way to build
"critical mass" in a community, something I believe that's missing with
L-39s.
While there are several L-39 discussion web sites, they all suffer from
the same problem... first, since there are several of them, none of them
seems to have become "the" L-39 list. Secondly, you have to go to each
of these boards on a regular basis, and each works a little differently.
By comparison an email list "comes to you"... and to participate, all
you have to do is reply, the way you'd normally reply to email.
Hopefully this will result in easier, more frequent communication.
Not a day goes by on the Yak-List that something doesn't make me think
or at least laugh. I've had the good fortune to get to know about a
dozen L-39 owners and I count several of them among my best friends.
Surely there are other people like this out there -- and I'd like to get
to know them.
I'd asked Matt Dralle to start the L39-List after being so please with
the Yak-List. He also runs quite a few other lists. Matt does this as
a hobby, albeit a hobby that pays for itself. There's a once-a-year
PBS-style fundraiser and then Matt doesn't say much for the rest of the
year. The list itself is strictly non-commercial... no hawking stuff,
if you've something to sell, the list rules suggest that you take it
off-list.
So that's it, an invitation to bring your questions, experience,
stories, and sense of humor. I would ask those of you who regularly get
questions about the L-39 to CC: the list on your replies. Lend a hand,
keep the discussion going.
I look forward to getting to know all of you,
Jon Boede
PS. * Any bearing this remark has to one's self-introduction at an AA
meeting is probably less coincidental than I'd like. :-)
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Dan Schiffer" <Dan.Schiffer(at)schiffermasonry.com> |
| Subject: | L39C Weight and Balance |
In the last year my trim setting on takeoff has been moving . I now must
set the trim 3 trim lines in pitch down direction. For level felt. Hands
off the indicator is 2 - 3 lines pitch down also.I checked the auto trim
function electric motor and it works and when I'm on the ground and
place the trim indicators in both cockpits to neutral the trim tab on
the elevator is perfectly lined up w/ the elevator. Something is going
on. What is it?? The plane flees fine in all profiles w/ the trim set
pitch down.I have not changed the airplane at all..however I have gained
a few pounds but wouldn't that move the CG forward not back? Anyone have
any ideas what's going on.
Dan Schiffer
Schiffer Mason Contractors, Inc.
and
SMC Historic Preservation Group
Direct Dial ph. 517.694.3265 Fax 517.694.4662
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Bert L. Zaccaria" <bert(at)zaccaria.com> |
| Subject: | L39-List Invitation |
Please remove my name.
Bert L. Zaccaria
3000 Sand Hill Road
Bldg. 3-210
Menlo Park Ca. 94025
Ph 650-854-1203
Fax 650-854-2019
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-l39-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-l39-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of L39OA(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: L39-List: L39-List Invitation
In a message dated 11/26/02 12:05:00 AM Central Standard Time,
jon(at)zoso.email.net writes:
> I'll also take
> responsibility for getting you unsubscribed if you don't want to do it
> yourself.
>
Please unsubscribe,
JPM
=
direct advertising on the Matronics Forums.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jon Boede" <jon(at)zoso.email.net> |
Does anyone have a good clean scan of the aero logo on the tail of the
L-39? I have one of those Sticka machines that cuts vinyl and want to
make a stencil for the logo.
Thanks,
Jon
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "John O'Keefe" <jokeefe(at)frontiernet.net> |
| Subject: | L39-List Invitation |
Remove From List
John W. O'Keefe
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-l39-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-l39-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jon Boede
Subject: L39-List: L39-List Invitation
Hi, my name is Jon Boede and I own an L-39.*
I'm the guy who arranged for your email address to be subscribed to the
new L39-List at Matronics. Since I put you on, I'll also take
responsibility for getting you unsubscribed if you don't want to do it
yourself.
However, I'd like to invite you to stay. After belonging to the
Yak-List for a while (I also have a Nanchang CJ) I've come to the
conclusion that a mailing list seems to be a better way to build
"critical mass" in a community, something I believe that's missing with
L-39s.
While there are several L-39 discussion web sites, they all suffer from
the same problem... first, since there are several of them, none of them
seems to have become "the" L-39 list. Secondly, you have to go to each
of these boards on a regular basis, and each works a little differently.
By comparison an email list "comes to you"... and to participate, all
you have to do is reply, the way you'd normally reply to email.
Hopefully this will result in easier, more frequent communication.
Not a day goes by on the Yak-List that something doesn't make me think
or at least laugh. I've had the good fortune to get to know about a
dozen L-39 owners and I count several of them among my best friends.
Surely there are other people like this out there -- and I'd like to get
to know them.
I'd asked Matt Dralle to start the L39-List after being so please with
the Yak-List. He also runs quite a few other lists. Matt does this as
a hobby, albeit a hobby that pays for itself. There's a once-a-year
PBS-style fundraiser and then Matt doesn't say much for the rest of the
year. The list itself is strictly non-commercial... no hawking stuff,
if you've something to sell, the list rules suggest that you take it
off-list.
So that's it, an invitation to bring your questions, experience,
stories, and sense of humor. I would ask those of you who regularly get
questions about the L-39 to CC: the list on your replies. Lend a hand,
keep the discussion going.
I look forward to getting to know all of you,
Jon Boede
PS. * Any bearing this remark has to one's self-introduction at an AA
meeting is probably less coincidental than I'd like. :-)
=
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Bernhard" <bernziwa(at)nwinet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: L39-List Invitation |
Please remove. I'll join when I get closer to an L-39. - Dave Bernhard
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Boede" <jon(at)zoso.email.net>
Subject: L39-List: L39-List Invitation
>
> Hi, my name is Jon Boede and I own an L-39.*
>
> I'm the guy who arranged for your email address to be subscribed to the
> new L39-List at Matronics. Since I put you on, I'll also take
> responsibility for getting you unsubscribed if you don't want to do it
> yourself.
>
> However, I'd like to invite you to stay. After belonging to the
> Yak-List for a while (I also have a Nanchang CJ) I've come to the
> conclusion that a mailing list seems to be a better way to build
> "critical mass" in a community, something I believe that's missing with
> L-39s.
>
> While there are several L-39 discussion web sites, they all suffer from
> the same problem... first, since there are several of them, none of them
> seems to have become "the" L-39 list. Secondly, you have to go to each
> of these boards on a regular basis, and each works a little differently.
> By comparison an email list "comes to you"... and to participate, all
> you have to do is reply, the way you'd normally reply to email.
> Hopefully this will result in easier, more frequent communication.
>
> Not a day goes by on the Yak-List that something doesn't make me think
> or at least laugh. I've had the good fortune to get to know about a
> dozen L-39 owners and I count several of them among my best friends.
> Surely there are other people like this out there -- and I'd like to get
> to know them.
>
> I'd asked Matt Dralle to start the L39-List after being so please with
> the Yak-List. He also runs quite a few other lists. Matt does this as
> a hobby, albeit a hobby that pays for itself. There's a once-a-year
> PBS-style fundraiser and then Matt doesn't say much for the rest of the
> year. The list itself is strictly non-commercial... no hawking stuff,
> if you've something to sell, the list rules suggest that you take it
> off-list.
>
> So that's it, an invitation to bring your questions, experience,
> stories, and sense of humor. I would ask those of you who regularly get
> questions about the L-39 to CC: the list on your replies. Lend a hand,
> keep the discussion going.
>
> I look forward to getting to know all of you,
> Jon Boede
>
> PS. * Any bearing this remark has to one's self-introduction at an AA
> meeting is probably less coincidental than I'd like. :-)
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | minhjet(at)netzero.net |
| Subject: | Re: L39-List Invitation |
hey Jon, how is going? man! you don't have any thing to do do you? good job
on the list.
minh
>
>Please remove. I'll join when I get closer to an L-39. - Dave Bernhard
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jon Boede" <jon(at)zoso.email.net>
>To:
>Subject: L39-List: L39-List Invitation
>
>
> >
> > Hi, my name is Jon Boede and I own an L-39.*
> >
> > I'm the guy who arranged for your email address to be subscribed to the
> > new L39-List at Matronics. Since I put you on, I'll also take
> > responsibility for getting you unsubscribed if you don't want to do it
> > yourself.
> >
> > However, I'd like to invite you to stay. After belonging to the
> > Yak-List for a while (I also have a Nanchang CJ) I've come to the
> > conclusion that a mailing list seems to be a better way to build
> > "critical mass" in a community, something I believe that's missing with
> > L-39s.
> >
> > While there are several L-39 discussion web sites, they all suffer from
> > the same problem... first, since there are several of them, none of them
> > seems to have become "the" L-39 list. Secondly, you have to go to each
> > of these boards on a regular basis, and each works a little differently.
> > By comparison an email list "comes to you"... and to participate, all
> > you have to do is reply, the way you'd normally reply to email.
> > Hopefully this will result in easier, more frequent communication.
> >
> > Not a day goes by on the Yak-List that something doesn't make me think
> > or at least laugh. I've had the good fortune to get to know about a
> > dozen L-39 owners and I count several of them among my best friends.
> > Surely there are other people like this out there -- and I'd like to get
> > to know them.
> >
> > I'd asked Matt Dralle to start the L39-List after being so please with
> > the Yak-List. He also runs quite a few other lists. Matt does this as
> > a hobby, albeit a hobby that pays for itself. There's a once-a-year
> > PBS-style fundraiser and then Matt doesn't say much for the rest of the
> > year. The list itself is strictly non-commercial... no hawking stuff,
> > if you've something to sell, the list rules suggest that you take it
> > off-list.
> >
> > So that's it, an invitation to bring your questions, experience,
> > stories, and sense of humor. I would ask those of you who regularly get
> > questions about the L-39 to CC: the list on your replies. Lend a hand,
> > keep the discussion going.
> >
> > I look forward to getting to know all of you,
> > Jon Boede
> >
> > PS. * Any bearing this remark has to one's self-introduction at an AA
> > meeting is probably less coincidental than I'd like. :-)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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1st month Free!
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | minhjet(at)netzero.net |
| Subject: | Re: L39C Weight and Balance |
hey Dan,
my name is minh i am a L-39 mechanic. maybe i can help you.
1 at what speed that your trim indicated 3 down.?
2 on take off what is your trim indicate say?
3 on the ground put 3 down and see where is your trim tab?
you can call me if you wish. 408-829-1855
minh
>
>
>In the last year my trim setting on takeoff has been moving . I now must
>set the trim 3 trim lines in pitch down direction. For level felt. Hands
>off the indicator is 2 - 3 lines pitch down also.I checked the auto trim
>function electric motor and it works and when I'm on the ground and
>place the trim indicators in both cockpits to neutral the trim tab on
>the elevator is perfectly lined up w/ the elevator. Something is going
>on. What is it?? The plane flees fine in all profiles w/ the trim set
>pitch down.I have not changed the airplane at all..however I have gained
>a few pounds but wouldn't that move the CG forward not back? Anyone have
>any ideas what's going on.
>
>
>Dan Schiffer
>
>Schiffer Mason Contractors, Inc.
>
> and
>
>SMC Historic Preservation Group
>
>
>Direct Dial ph. 517.694.3265 Fax 517.694.4662
>
>
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1st month Free!
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jon Boede" <jon(at)zoso.email.net> |
I have a factory airspeed indictator, in Knots... and there's a small
yellow line about 85-95 knots. I assume that's what you mean -- what IS
that for? Rotation speed? Stall speed?
Jon
>
> Would anyone know the purpose of the markings in the lower range of the
> L-39 airspeed instruments?
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Clarence Romero Jr." <clyderomero(at)worldnet.att.net> |
| Subject: | Re: L39-List Invitation |
take me off your list please ASAP
clyde
FERRARI'S AND DUCATI'S
FLY FAST N' CHECK SIX !
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Boede" <jon(at)zoso.email.net>
Subject: L39-List: L39-List Invitation
>
> Hi, my name is Jon Boede and I own an L-39.*
>
> I'm the guy who arranged for your email address to be subscribed to the
> new L39-List at Matronics. Since I put you on, I'll also take
> responsibility for getting you unsubscribed if you don't want to do it
> yourself.
>
> However, I'd like to invite you to stay. After belonging to the
> Yak-List for a while (I also have a Nanchang CJ) I've come to the
> conclusion that a mailing list seems to be a better way to build
> "critical mass" in a community, something I believe that's missing with
> L-39s.
>
> While there are several L-39 discussion web sites, they all suffer from
> the same problem... first, since there are several of them, none of them
> seems to have become "the" L-39 list. Secondly, you have to go to each
> of these boards on a regular basis, and each works a little differently.
> By comparison an email list "comes to you"... and to participate, all
> you have to do is reply, the way you'd normally reply to email.
> Hopefully this will result in easier, more frequent communication.
>
> Not a day goes by on the Yak-List that something doesn't make me think
> or at least laugh. I've had the good fortune to get to know about a
> dozen L-39 owners and I count several of them among my best friends.
> Surely there are other people like this out there -- and I'd like to get
> to know them.
>
> I'd asked Matt Dralle to start the L39-List after being so please with
> the Yak-List. He also runs quite a few other lists. Matt does this as
> a hobby, albeit a hobby that pays for itself. There's a once-a-year
> PBS-style fundraiser and then Matt doesn't say much for the rest of the
> year. The list itself is strictly non-commercial... no hawking stuff,
> if you've something to sell, the list rules suggest that you take it
> off-list.
>
> So that's it, an invitation to bring your questions, experience,
> stories, and sense of humor. I would ask those of you who regularly get
> questions about the L-39 to CC: the list on your replies. Lend a hand,
> keep the discussion going.
>
> I look forward to getting to know all of you,
> Jon Boede
>
> PS. * Any bearing this remark has to one's self-introduction at an AA
> meeting is probably less coincidental than I'd like. :-)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "MIKE greiger" <mgreiger(at)earthlink.net> |
Remove me from your list please
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Boede" <jon(at)zoso.email.net>
Subject: L39-List: aero logo
>
> Does anyone have a good clean scan of the aero logo on the tail of the
> L-39? I have one of those Sticka machines that cuts vinyl and want to
> make a stencil for the logo.
>
> Thanks,
> Jon
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | DLMans62(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: L39-List Invitation |
thanks, but please remove my name for your list.
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: L39-List Invitation |
Take me off your list please.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Boede" <jon(at)zoso.email.net>
Subject: L39-List: L39-List Invitation
>
> Hi, my name is Jon Boede and I own an L-39.*
>
> I'm the guy who arranged for your email address to be subscribed to the
> new L39-List at Matronics. Since I put you on, I'll also take
> responsibility for getting you unsubscribed if you don't want to do it
> yourself.
>
> However, I'd like to invite you to stay. After belonging to the
> Yak-List for a while (I also have a Nanchang CJ) I've come to the
> conclusion that a mailing list seems to be a better way to build
> "critical mass" in a community, something I believe that's missing with
> L-39s.
>
> While there are several L-39 discussion web sites, they all suffer from
> the same problem... first, since there are several of them, none of them
> seems to have become "the" L-39 list. Secondly, you have to go to each
> of these boards on a regular basis, and each works a little differently.
> By comparison an email list "comes to you"... and to participate, all
> you have to do is reply, the way you'd normally reply to email.
> Hopefully this will result in easier, more frequent communication.
>
> Not a day goes by on the Yak-List that something doesn't make me think
> or at least laugh. I've had the good fortune to get to know about a
> dozen L-39 owners and I count several of them among my best friends.
> Surely there are other people like this out there -- and I'd like to get
> to know them.
>
> I'd asked Matt Dralle to start the L39-List after being so please with
> the Yak-List. He also runs quite a few other lists. Matt does this as
> a hobby, albeit a hobby that pays for itself. There's a once-a-year
> PBS-style fundraiser and then Matt doesn't say much for the rest of the
> year. The list itself is strictly non-commercial... no hawking stuff,
> if you've something to sell, the list rules suggest that you take it
> off-list.
>
> So that's it, an invitation to bring your questions, experience,
> stories, and sense of humor. I would ask those of you who regularly get
> questions about the L-39 to CC: the list on your replies. Lend a hand,
> keep the discussion going.
>
> I look forward to getting to know all of you,
> Jon Boede
>
> PS. * Any bearing this remark has to one's self-introduction at an AA
> meeting is probably less coincidental than I'd like. :-)
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Nick Barnard" <nick(at)yakovlevs.com> |
| Subject: | L39-List Invitation |
Please remove me from your list
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-l39-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-l39-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Shane Gifford
Subject: Re: L39-List: L39-List Invitation
--> <shane@formula-aviation.com.au>
Take me off your list please.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Boede" <jon(at)zoso.email.net>
Subject: L39-List: L39-List Invitation
>
> Hi, my name is Jon Boede and I own an L-39.*
>
> I'm the guy who arranged for your email address to be subscribed to
> the new L39-List at Matronics. Since I put you on, I'll also take
> responsibility for getting you unsubscribed if you don't want to do it
> yourself.
>
> However, I'd like to invite you to stay. After belonging to the
> Yak-List for a while (I also have a Nanchang CJ) I've come to the
> conclusion that a mailing list seems to be a better way to build
> "critical mass" in a community, something I believe that's missing
> with L-39s.
>
> While there are several L-39 discussion web sites, they all suffer
> from the same problem... first, since there are several of them, none
> of them seems to have become "the" L-39 list. Secondly, you have to
> go to each of these boards on a regular basis, and each works a little
> differently. By comparison an email list "comes to you"... and to
> participate, all you have to do is reply, the way you'd normally reply
> to email. Hopefully this will result in easier, more frequent
> communication.
>
> Not a day goes by on the Yak-List that something doesn't make me think
> or at least laugh. I've had the good fortune to get to know about a
> dozen L-39 owners and I count several of them among my best friends.
> Surely there are other people like this out there -- and I'd like to
> get to know them.
>
> I'd asked Matt Dralle to start the L39-List after being so please with
> the Yak-List. He also runs quite a few other lists. Matt does this
> as a hobby, albeit a hobby that pays for itself. There's a
> once-a-year PBS-style fundraiser and then Matt doesn't say much for
> the rest of the year. The list itself is strictly non-commercial...
> no hawking stuff, if you've something to sell, the list rules suggest
> that you take it off-list.
>
> So that's it, an invitation to bring your questions, experience,
> stories, and sense of humor. I would ask those of you who regularly
> get questions about the L-39 to CC: the list on your replies. Lend a
> hand, keep the discussion going.
>
> I look forward to getting to know all of you,
> Jon Boede
>
> PS. * Any bearing this remark has to one's self-introduction at an AA
> meeting is probably less coincidental than I'd like. :-)
>
>
>
>
>
>
=
direct advertising on the Matronics Forums.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | minhjet(at)netzero.net |
hey Jon,
both, depending on how your plane is set up.
minh
>
>I have a factory airspeed indictator, in Knots... and there's a small
>yellow line about 85-95 knots. I assume that's what you mean -- what IS
>that for? Rotation speed? Stall speed?
>
>Jon
>
> >
> > Would anyone know the purpose of the markings in the lower range of the
> > L-39 airspeed instruments?
>
>
---------------------------------------------
1st month Free!
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | W Bismarck <flier930(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: L39-List Invitation |
PLEASE REMOVE ME FROM YOUR MAILING LIST. I NO LONGER PERFORM .MAINTENANCE ON AN
L-39. THANK YOU>
take me off your list please ASAP
clyde
FERRARI'S AND DUCATI'S
FLY FAST N' CHECK SIX !
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Boede"
Subject: L39-List: L39-List Invitation
>
> Hi, my name is Jon Boede and I own an L-39.*
>
> I'm the guy who arranged for your email address to be subscribed to the
> new L39-List at Matronics. Since I put you on, I'll also take
> responsibility for getting you unsubscribed if you don't want to do it
> yourself.
>
> However, I'd like to invite you to stay. After belonging to the
> Yak-List for a while (I also have a Nanchang CJ) I've come to the
> conclusion that a mailing list seems to be a better way to build
> "critical mass" in a community, something I believe that's missing with
> L-39s.
>
> While there are several L-39 discussion web sites, they all suffer from
> the same problem... first, since there are several of them, none of them
> seems to have become "the" L-39 list. Secondly, you have to go to each
> of these boards on a regular basis, and each works a little differently.
> By comparison an email list "comes to you"... and to participate, all
> you have to do is reply, the way you'd normally reply to email.
> Hopefully this will result in easier, more frequent communication.
>
> Not a day goes by on the Yak-List that something doesn't make me think
> or at least laugh. I've had the good fortune to get to know about a
> dozen L-39 owners and I count several of them among my best friends.
> Surely there are other people like this out there -- and I'd like to get
> to know them.
>
> I'd asked Matt Dralle to start the L39-List after being so please with
> the Yak-List. He also runs quite a few other lists. Matt does this as
> a hobby, albeit a hobby that pays for itself. There's a once-a-year
> PBS-style fundraiser and then Matt doesn't say much for the rest of the
> year. The list itself is strictly non-commercial... no hawking stuff,
> if you've something to sell, the list rules suggest that you take it
> off-list.
>
> So that's it, an invitation to bring your questions, experience,
> stories, and sense of humor. I would ask those of you who regularly get
> questions about the L-39 to CC: the list on your replies. Lend a hand,
> keep the discussion going.
>
> I look forward to getting to know all of you,
> Jon Boede
>
> PS. * Any bearing this remark has to one's self-introduction at an AA
> meeting is probably less coincidental than I'd like. :-)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
---------------------------------
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Larry Salganek" <larry(at)jetwarbird.com> |
| Subject: | Roma's airspeed markings on low end.. |
tests=DOUBLE_CAPSWORD,SUPERLONG_LINE
Roma.....the yellow arc..on the low end of the original airspeed indicator....is
a .....left over indicator from the old L-29......this low end mark(usually
below 150KM...denotes the maximum indicated airspeed at cruise power settings
for an L-29 at 3,000 meters.......
Sorry..I couldn't resist it..I know how you love the L-29... Love
Larry
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "MIKE greiger" <mgreiger(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Roma's airspeed markings on low end.. |
Larry,
I don't know why I am recieving your email and this L-39 list. I do
know that I have reported them to the Air Force since they have targeted
government computers used in Air Force offices. I recommend you report them
to the FBI as I will. I don't know if they are hackers or other security
risks.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Salganek" <larry(at)jetwarbird.com>
Subject: L39-List: Roma's airspeed markings on low end..
>
> Roma.....the yellow arc..on the low end of the original airspeed
indicator....is a .....left over indicator from the old L-29......this low
end mark(usually below 150KM...denotes the maximum indicated airspeed at
cruise power settings for an L-29 at 3,000 meters.......
> Sorry..I couldn't resist it..I know how you love the L-29...
Love Larry
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | pkelly(at)remc4.k12.mi.us |
| Subject: | Re: L39-List Digest: 8 Msgs - 11/27/02 |
Please take me off your list
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Roma Skinner" <roma(at)airmail.net> |
Regarding the Barums fitted to the ZA model, My tires wear more on the outer edge
toward the gear leg than the rest of the tire, tire pressure?? strut
pressure??
R. Skinner
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | All New List Digest Format!! |
Dear Listers,
I've just finished up some awesome code that will completely change your
thinking about how email Digests should work and look! Yeah, I'm kind of
proud of it, that is true... :-)
What you'll be getting in the new List Digest message is the
following: The main message will contain the new text-based index I
introduced a few weeks back. But here's where things get
different... Instead of simply including all of the day's posts in line
within the message, there will now be included two enclosures - one with a
HTML encoded version of the Digests, and another with the usual text-only
version of the Digests.
I think you're really going to like the new HTML enclosure of the
Digests. All of the Indexes at the top are now hyperlinked to the actual
posts and there are hyperlinks at the top of each post that will:
o Take you back to the Index
o Take you to the next post
o Take you to the previous post
o Allow you to respond to the LIST regarding the message
o Allow you to respond directly to the POSTER regarding the message
You'll have to check it out to appreciate the full goodness of the new
format! :-)
The text-only version is basically exactly the same data that has been
normally sent in line within the message.
You'll also note that the filenames of the enclosures are such that they
can be conveniently placed in a personal "archive" directory for future
reference.
Hope you enjoy the new Digest format!!!
Oh, and don't forget about the Fund Raiser! :-)
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Danmmccue(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: L39-List Invitation |
PLEASE REMOVE MY NAME FROM L-39 LIST, PLEASE UNSUBSCRIBE...
danmmccue(at)aol.com
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Terry Fregly" <terryfregly(at)hotmail.com> |
I would suggest that the reason that it would be impossible to wear the inside
because the landing would be on one gear or the other(as in cross wind landing)but
impossible on the inside of the tire.It is almost impossible to land on both
tires at the same time. Hence the wear on the outside
Courtesy of Alex Makarenko LOOA in L39 L39flighttrainingcenter(at)yahoo.com
Commercial Real Estate web site ccc-net.com P o Box 3886
Tallahassee, FL 32315-3886
FL 850-386-5184/FAX 850-386-9479
Utah 801-278-6660/Fax 801-278-6661
From: "Roma Skinner" <ROMA(at)AIRMAIL.NET>
Subject: L39-List: tire wear
Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 18:55:26 -0600
-- L39-List message posted by: "Roma Skinner"
Regarding the Barums fitted to the ZA model, My tires wear more on the outer edge
toward the gear leg than the rest of the tire, tire pressure?? strut pressure??
R. Skinner
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | New, NEW List Digest Format... |
Dear Listers,
Okay, so I woke up this morning to an email box full of hate-mail about the
new List Digest format. I thought it was cool, but I guess not... Still,
it seemed like too much code to just throw out, so I've modified things a
little and I'm hoping everyone will be happy with the new, NEW
arrangement. Here's how it works now:
o The HTML and TXT enclosures aren't sent in the Digest any longer.
o URL Links to the HTML and TEXT versions of the day's Digests
will be found at the top of the digest email.
o The new Digest Index will be found at the top of the digest email
following the URL Links.
o The full digest text will then be found in the email as before.
o All of the previous Digests will now be available on line. The
URL for the main digest page is:
http://www.matronics.com/digest
From here, you can drill into the specific List Digest of interest.
o Both the HTML and TXT versions of the Digests can be found here.
o The List Message Trailer will contain a Link directly to the given
o Right now there's only one Digest shown, but each day there will
be another. They will be sorted with the newest at the top.
Left-hand column is the HTML version, right-hand column the TXT
version.
A couple people also complained that some messages in the HTML version were
just one long line that went off to the right forever and they hated
that. Come to think of it, this is also an issue in the Search Engine,
List Browser, and Archive Browser. Some email programs don't included hard
Returns at regular intervals and that's what causes this. I wrote a
program tonight that will automatically chop these long lines into 78
characters or less and wrap the rest of the line. After tonight's Archive
transfer, all of the Searching and Browsing tools shouldn't have the
problem any longer either. Woo hoo!
So, back to the new Digest format. What people are going to see in the
new, NEW Digest is a bit of verbiage at the top of the email describing the
URL links to the HTML and TXT on-line versions, followed by the Links,
followed by the day's Index, followed by the day's messages just as
before. Lines longer than 78 characters will also be automatically wrapped
onto the next line.
Hopefully this will be a more pleasing arrangement for everyone. Sorry to
get everybody so stirred up over the format change!
The List of Contributors is coming out tomorrow night... Still time to
make that Contribution! http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Carl Ludwig <carl(at)blueskystudios.com> |
Roma Skinner wrote:
>
>
> Regarding the Barums fitted to the ZA model, My tires wear more on the outer
edge toward the gear leg than the rest of the tire, tire pressure?? strut
pressure??
>
> R. Skinner
>
It is also possible that the gear legs are out of rig, There are specs
in the manual and procedures for adjusting the main gear legs so they
are at the correct angle.
Carl
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | KM-34D Series II mask rubber |
| From: | "Jon Boede" <jon(at)zoso.email.net> |
Does anybody have a source for KM-34D Series II oxygen masks? I have some
masks that are in good shape but I'm always looking for ones that are in
*great* shape. I'm also looking for replacement rubber, particularly the
liner itself.
Thanks,
Jon
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "WarbirdSteve" <warbirdsteve(at)qwest.net> |
| Subject: | Re: L39-List Invitation |
Hey Jon,
Thanks for getting me on the list.
Steve
Jon Boede wrote:
>
> Hi, my name is Jon Boede and I own an L-39.*
>
> I'm the guy who arranged for your email address to be subscribed to the
> new L39-List at Matronics. Since I put you on, I'll also take
> responsibility for getting you unsubscribed if you don't want to do it
> yourself.
>
> However, I'd like to invite you to stay. After belonging to the
> Yak-List for a while (I also have a Nanchang CJ) I've come to the
> conclusion that a mailing list seems to be a better way to build
> "critical mass" in a community, something I believe that's missing with
> L-39s.
>
> While there are several L-39 discussion web sites, they all suffer from
> the same problem... first, since there are several of them, none of them
> seems to have become "the" L-39 list. Secondly, you have to go to each
> of these boards on a regular basis, and each works a little differently.
> By comparison an email list "comes to you"... and to participate, all
> you have to do is reply, the way you'd normally reply to email.
> Hopefully this will result in easier, more frequent communication.
>
> Not a day goes by on the Yak-List that something doesn't make me think
> or at least laugh. I've had the good fortune to get to know about a
> dozen L-39 owners and I count several of them among my best friends.
> Surely there are other people like this out there -- and I'd like to get
> to know them.
>
> I'd asked Matt Dralle to start the L39-List after being so please with
> the Yak-List. He also runs quite a few other lists. Matt does this as
> a hobby, albeit a hobby that pays for itself. There's a once-a-year
> PBS-style fundraiser and then Matt doesn't say much for the rest of the
> year. The list itself is strictly non-commercial... no hawking stuff,
> if you've something to sell, the list rules suggest that you take it
> off-list.
>
> So that's it, an invitation to bring your questions, experience,
> stories, and sense of humor. I would ask those of you who regularly get
> questions about the L-39 to CC: the list on your replies. Lend a hand,
> keep the discussion going.
>
> I look forward to getting to know all of you,
> Jon Boede
>
> PS. * Any bearing this remark has to one's self-introduction at an AA
> meeting is probably less coincidental than I'd like. :-)
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Bryan L. Lillegard" <72032.3275(at)compuserve.com> |
Take me off your address list please.
Bryan
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: L39-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 12/09/02 |
In a message dated 12/9/02 11:56:43 PM Pacific Standard Time,
l39-list-digest(at)matronics.com writes:
> l39-list(at)matronics.com
Please take me off all your mailing lists.
f4cmac(at)aol.com
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Peier Heinz" <heinzpeier(at)mindspring.com> |
Please take me off your list
Thanks
Heinz pier
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | DusterF16(at)aol.com |
please remove my name from your L-39 lists
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Maggi Alexander <Maggi(at)iyfnet.org> |
L39 List- please remove my name from your L-39 lists
-----Original Message-----
From: DusterF16(at)aol.com [mailto:DusterF16(at)aol.com]
Subject: L39-List: remove my name
please remove my name from your L-39 lists
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | <patrick.reina(at)gte.net> |
> Please Remove My Name ....Thanks!!
Pat Reina
> From: Maggi Alexander <Maggi(at)iyfnet.org>
> Date: 2002/12/17 Tue AM 09:16:08 CST
> To: l39-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: RE: L39-List: remove my name
>
>
> L39 List- please remove my name from your L-39 lists
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DusterF16(at)aol.com [mailto:DusterF16(at)aol.com]
> Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2002 9:28 PM
> To: l39-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: L39-List: remove my name
>
>
> please remove my name from your L-39 lists
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | MISTARBASE(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: remove my name |
Please remove my name and email address. I am forwarding this to my
congressional representatives. Thank you
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | MISTARBASE(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: remove my name |
Remove my email and name from your list.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Bill Pederson"<wlptep(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Re: remove my name |
I do not sponser this list nor do I want to be on it myself if you know who is
responsible please advise me
thank you
Bill
> MISTARBASE(at)aol.com
>
> Please remove my name and email address. I am
> forwarding this to my
> congressional representatives. Thank you
>
>
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| From: | "Bill Pederson"<wlptep(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Remove me from your list |
Please remove me from your list
thank you
wlptep(at)earthlink.net
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Roma Skinner" <roma(at)airmail.net> |
Would like to buy a nose cone and left wing tank with the flap covering the fuel
port for a L-39c model.
Roma Skinner
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Don Kirlin" <don(at)webmail.ksni.net> |
I have all of that is stock.
Don Kirlin
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Roma Skinner" <roma(at)airmail.net>
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 21:55:50 -0600
>
>Would like to buy a nose cone and left wing tank with the flap covering the fuel
port for a L-39c model.
>
>Roma Skinner
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Larry Salganek" <larry(at)jetwarbird.com> |
Roma..hope all is well..I don't have any 39 parts,,sorry!...
I am looking for some 29 parts...a tach,front windshield,set of
canopies,nose tire...would you know where I can get these???
HAPPY NEW YEAR>>>LARRY
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Terry Fregly" <terryfregly(at)hotmail.com> |
Larry Don Smith in Dothan Al (friend of Jeral Birdwell) has two 29s sitting on
the ramp probably could be had for next to nothing I would call jeral and ask
him to see what could be done Don Smith and Jeral are close friends and we almost
based our 39 there
Terry Fregly
Commercial Real Estate web site ccc-net.com P o Box 3886
Tallahassee, FL 32315-3886
FL 850-386-5184/FAX 850-386-9479
Utah 801-278-6660/Fax 801-278-6661
From: "Larry Salganek" <LARRY(at)JETWARBIRD.COM>
Subject: Re: L39-List: L-39 parts
-- L39-List message posted by: "Larry Salganek"
Roma..hope all is well..I don't have any 39 parts,,sorry!...
I am looking for some 29 parts...a tach,front windshield,set of
canopies,nose tire...would you know where I can get these???
HAPPY NEW YEARLARRY
STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 3
months FREE*.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | minhjet(at)netzero.net |
| Subject: | Re: L39-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 02/20/03 |
i am looking for an L-39 engine
minh
>Today's Message Index:
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| From: | "Larry" <larry(at)jetwarbird.com> |
| Subject: | Re: L39-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/21/03 |
version=2.40
they are usually located behind the rear seat.....
Larry
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| From: | minhjet(at)netzero.net |
| Subject: | Re: L39-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/21/03 |
thanks Larry, so that where it was the whole time?
>
>
>they are usually located behind the rear seat.....
> Larry
>
>
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| Subject: | LOA -> ETR (experimental type rating) |
| From: | "Jon Boede" <jon(at)zoso.email.net> |
When I told people that I was going to NWOC, several asked if I'd take
notes on the LOA to Experimental Type Rating conversion that's been begun
by the FAA. I posted a short report at:
http://www.l39jet.com/cgi-bin/webbbs_config.pl?noframes;read=258
LOAs are for turbojet and the larger piston Warbirds, but I know there are
some lurkers on the Yak List.
Jon
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Don Kirlin" <don(at)webmail.ksni.net> |
| Subject: | Re: LOA -> ETR (experimental type rating) |
Thanks Jon. Great Brief...
Don Kirlin
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Jon Boede" <jon(at)zoso.email.net>
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 21:16:45 -0600 (CST)
>
>When I told people that I was going to NWOC, several asked if I'd take
>notes on the LOA to Experimental Type Rating conversion that's been begun
>by the FAA. I posted a short report at:
>
>http://www.l39jet.com/cgi-bin/webbbs_config.pl?noframes;read=258
>
>LOAs are for turbojet and the larger piston Warbirds, but I know there are
>some lurkers on the Yak List.
>
>Jon
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Doug" <rvfltd(at)televar.com> |
email virus. This suspicious message has been quarantined in
your Amerion Message Center:
From: L39-List <L39-List(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Asked if I
Virus: Exploit-MIME.gen.b
You can read the message without infecting your computer.
Click on the link to access your Amerion Message Center:
http://filtering.amerion.net/?emailrvfltd@televar.com
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
"L39-List: virus?" (Mar 17, 5:00pm)
Enclosures are not forwarded by the Matronics List server so viruses
cannot be propagated. This likely came from someone that has a virus
already and is masquerading as the list server.
Matt Dralle
>--------------
>
>email virus. This suspicious message has been quarantined in
>your Amerion Message Center:
>
> From: L39-List <L39-List(at)matronics.com>
> Subject: Asked if I
> Virus: Exploit-MIME.gen.b
>
>You can read the message without infecting your computer.
>Click on the link to access your Amerion Message Center:
>
> http://filtering.amerion.net/?emailrvfltd@televar.com
>
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925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Benjamin Franklin
Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | 7-Day Matronics List Browse Enhancement... |
Dear Listers,
Neil Hulin of the Zenith-List at Matronics wrote to me suggesting I add a
"total of available messages" column to the 7-Day List Browse Main page,
and it seemed like a great idea! I've made the modifications and I think
many will find it extremely helpful as well. Have a look at the following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse/
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin...
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Matronics ISP Upgrade TODAY... |
Dear Listers,
The time has finally arrived for the Internet Service Provider (ISP)
upgrade! You'll recall that I was looking into upgrading the existing SDSL
connection from 768k to 1.1M. As it turned out, the copper line wouldn't
support any speeds greater than the current 768k. In light of that news, I
just bit-the-bullet and ordered a full, commercial-grade T1
connection. The T1 connection will provide a full-duplex, high priority,
1.5Mb Internet connection which should be a substantial performance
enhancement for all of the List services!
Pacbell delivered the T1 Loop last week and it tested out fine. This past
weekend I pulled the tail circuit from the demark to the office. This
afternoon, Tuesday 4/1/03, the ISP is suppose come and install the new
router and bring up routing on a test subnet. Assuming that everything
checks out okay with the T1, new router, and routing, I will have them
swing the main Matronics subnet off the SDSL and onto the T1. In theory,
the swing could be nearly transparent to users, but that's usually not the
case... ;-)
Please expect a bit of instability in connectivity this afternoon as we
work though the transition issues. I will post a follow up message when
everything is up and running on the new T1 line.
Finally, please know that it is solely your Contributions that make these
kinds of List upgrades happen! There is no advertising budget (aka,
flashing banner ads and annoying pop up browser windows) to pay these
bills; operational support is solely from List members like you during the
yearly List Fund Raiser. If you would like to make your Contribution to
support the Lists and upgrades like this T1 connectivity enhancement,
please see the List Contribution Web Site where you can make your
Contribution with a Credit Card, PayPal, or Personal Check. You can even
get a free List Archive CDROM with a qualifying List Contribution! The URL
is: http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thanks again to EVERYONE that made a generous Contribution last year and
enabled this awesome upgrade to T1 service!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin.
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Matronics ISP Upgrade COMPLETED! |
Dear Listers,
I just wanted to send out a quick note to let everyone know that the 1.5Mb
T1 connection upgrade went smoothly today. They brought up the new line
and router yesterday on a test subnet and today the ISP switched over
connectivity about 12 noon with little to no incident. I just finished
some performance testing, and it appears that actual throughput and
interactive response is noticeably improved as advertised!
Enjoy!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin.
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | NLJetTeam(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: L39-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 04/03/03 |
Can you take me off your list please.
Mario Hamel
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | NLJetTeam(at)aol.com |
Can you take me off your list please.
Mario Hamel
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Larry" <larry(at)jetwarbird.com> |
| Subject: | Re: L39-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 04/23/03 |
version=2.53
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Subject: L39-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 04/23/03
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| From: | "petraero" <petraero(at)yandex.ru> |
We can offer different spare parts for L-39C and aircraft itself.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Terry Fregly" <terryfregly(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Spare parts! |
where is the list and prices
T
Commercial Real Estate web site ccc-net.com P o Box 3886
Tallahassee, FL 32315-3886
FL 850-386-5184/FAX 850-386-9479
Utah 801-278-6660/Fax 801-278-6661
From: "petraero" <PETRAERO(at)YANDEX.RU>
Subject: L39-List: Spare parts!
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 10:53:46 +0400
-- L39-List message posted by: "petraero"
We can offer different spare parts for L-39C and aircraft itself.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "petraero" <petraero(at)yandex.ru> |
| Subject: | Re: Spare parts! |
Aerotech
Moscow, Usievicha Str., 8A
Tel. +7 095 1557901; tel/fax +7 095 1557702.
E-mail: alexaero(at)mtu-net.ru, slavaero(at)mtu-net.ru, petraero(at)yandex.ru
Dear Mr. Fregly,
Thank you for your reply. I sent your information to technical director of
our company "AEROTECH". His name is Vyacheslav. He will contact with you and
give you all information you need.
Best regards
Peter Bogdanov
Aerotech
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "petraero" <petraero(at)yandex.ru> |
| Subject: | L-39, L-29 parts |
Dear sirs,
We can offer different spare parts for L-39 and L-29. Good prices. Please, e-mail
if you have interest.
Best regards.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Terry Fregly" <terryfregly(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: L-39, L-29 parts |
how much for Pitot tubes main and auxand landing light bulb assembly parachute
with harness new assorted light bbulbs for inst panel shaphire complete new or
rebuilt engines must be late date
Commercial Real Estate web site ccc-net.com P o Box 3886
Tallahassee, FL 32315-3886
FL 850-386-5184/FAX 850-386-9479
Utah 801-278-6660/Fax 801-278-6661
From: "petraero" <PETRAERO(at)YANDEX.RU>
Subject: L39-List: L-39, L-29 parts
Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 21:29:48 +0400
-- L39-List message posted by: "petraero"
Dear sirs,
We can offer different spare parts for L-39 and L-29. Good prices. Please, e-mail
if you have interest.
Best regards.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "petraero" <petraero(at)yandex.ru> |
Dear Sirs!
Let me invite you to our yahoo group L-39C !
There you can discuss everything concerning L-39. View photos and download our
price lists or view them on-line and order parts.
Welcome to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Aerotech_L-39/ !
Sign in!!!
Thank you.
Peter Bogdanov
Aerotech
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "petraero" <petraero(at)yandex.ru> |
Dear Sirs,
We can offer ground equipment for L-39, training stand with ejection seat.
Engines M701 (L-29) with 0 SOH.
If you have interes, please advise.
Regards,
Peter
Aerotech
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "DB" <fastjets(at)email.com> |
Can you be more specific about your support equipment. Is this original
Czech built or is it made in Russia ?
Thanks
barnell
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-l39-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-l39-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of petraero
Subject: L39-List: Ground support.
Dear Sirs,
We can offer ground equipment for L-39, training stand with ejection
seat.
Engines M701 (L-29) with 0 SOH.
If you have interes, please advise.
Regards,
Peter
Aerotech
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | L-39 Warbird Business for sale |
| From: | Patrick Scofield <patrick(at)designworx.com> |
L-39 Jet Warbird Business For Sale - Worldwide Warbirds Inc. located in
Phoenix, Arizona. 1/3 share offered. additional info at
contact Patrick Scofield
480-227-4125 Serious inquiries only.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "petraero" <petraero(at)yandex.ru> |
| Subject: | Engines for L-29. |
Dear sirs,
We can offer 20 engines for L-29. They have different data. So, if you have interest, e-mail me or view file at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Aerotech_L-39/
Best regards,
Peter
Aerotech
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Stephen Crow <k4cpx(at)arrl.net> |
I would think that a President who is a pilot would understand what tremendous
inconveniences he causes by allowing these ridiculous flight restrictions. Just
look at the long list of airports, large and small that are effected. He reminds
me of the time Clinton allowed an entire airport to be shutdown while he
had a leisurely haircut in the parked A/F One.
This present President knows better and choses to ignore the difficulties he causes.
Yeah, I know "He doesn't set these rules".
BS He could stop this idiosy with three short words "Cut the Crap!".
The aviation world should be screaming to him personally.
I hope he's not totally deaf.
Steve C.
====================================================================
Subject: Commander-List: Fw: President Bush / Miami / Tampa
--> Commander-List message posted by: Stephen Crow
More damn restrictions!
Steve C.
====================================
----- Original Message -----
From: JERRYROOKS(at)aol.com
Subject: President Bush / Miami / Tampa
AOPA ePilot Special Airspace Bulletin June 27, 2003
A special notice to AOPA members in the Florida area
==> ATTENTION PILOTS <==
FAA TO ACTIVATE 30-NM TFRs OVER MIAMI AND TAMPA
AOPA is sending this message to advise you that the FAA will establish
30-nm-radius temporary flight restrictions (TFRs) over Miami and
Tampa when President Bush travels to the cities on Monday, June 30.
AOPA continues to lobby for more reasonably sized presidential
movement TFRs, absent a specific and credible threat. The association
maintains almost daily contact with the FAA, the Transportation
Security Administration (TSA), and officials responsible for the
president's security.
The Miami TFR will be in effect from 11:20 a.m. to 2:30 p.m. local
on Monday and prohibits aircraft within a 10-mile radius of the DHP
vortac's 99-degree radial at 7.9 miles (near the Orange Bowl). The
Tampa TFR will be in effect from 5 p.m. to 8 p.m. local on Monday and
prohibits general aviation aircraft within a 10-mile radius of the PIE
vortac's 62-degree radial at 9 miles (essentially over Tampa
International Airport).
Between 10 and 30 nm from the center of both TFRs and below 18,000
feet, flight operations are only permitted for ingress or egress.
Aircraft must be on an active IFR or VFR flight plan with a discrete
transponder code assigned by air traffic control, and maintain
two-way radio communications. The notam says that air traffic
control may authorize transient operations.
The impacted landing facilities for Miami are Miami Heliport (X48),
Miami SPB (X44), Miami International (MIA), Opa Locka (OPF), North
Perry (HWO), Kendall-Tamiami Executive (TMB), Opa Locka West (X46),
Fort Lauderdale/Hollywood International (FLL), Downtown Fort
Lauderdale Heliport (DT1), Motorsports Complex EMS Heliport (MC4),
Motorsports Complex VIP Heliport (VI2), Fort Lauderdale Executive
(FXE), Homestead General Aviation (X51), and Pompano Beach Airpark
(PMP).
The impacted landing facilities for Tampa are Tampa International
(TPA), Peter O. Knight (TPF), St. Petersburg-Clearwater International
(PIE), Vandenberg (VDF), Clearwater Air Park (CLW), Albert Whitted
(SPG), Tampa North Aero Park (X39), Plant City Municipal (PCM),
Airport Manatee (48X), Pilot Country (X05), Zephyrhills Municipal
(ZPH), Lakeland Linder Regional (LAL), South Lakeland (X49), and
Hernando County (BKV).
Pilots are strongly encouraged to check notams prior to all flights
as changes have occurred with many of these presidential TFRs. See
AOPA Online for the full text of the Miami notam
( http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/notams.html#3/5150 ) or Tampa notam
( http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/notams.html#3/5149 ).
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "petraero" <petraero(at)yandex.ru> |
Dear Sirs,
We can offer:
L-39C 232425 Albatros
L39C produced in 19.11.82
TSO: 802 hrs.
TTSN 2263 hrs
Remainning time: 798 hrs.
Overhaul 1991
Engine produced in 19.07.93
TTSN: 555 hrs
Remainning time: 445 hrs
TBO 1000 hrs
Best Regards,
Slava
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | <phil(at)petrasoft.net> |
Please see the attached zip file for details.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "petraero" <petraero(at)yandex.ru> |
Dear Sirs!
Welcome our website http://www.aerotech.ru ! You can find there information about sale of Czech Jets and other airplanes!
Best regards,
Peter
Aerotech
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "petraero" <petraero(at)yandex.ru> |
Dear sirs,
There are 2 available new engines M701 for L-29 + 20 ovehauled with TSO 0 hrs.
See details at www.aerotech.ru or e-mail aerotech(at)aerotech.ru
Best regards,
Peter
Aerotech
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "petraero" <petraero(at)yandex.ru> |
Dear Sirs,
We have L-29 for sale. All details view at www.aerotech.ru
Best regards,
Peter
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
| Subject: | New SPAM and Virus Filtering Appliance At Matronics... |
Dear Listers,
I will be installing a new SPAM and virus blocking appliance this
evening or tomorrow. The installation will involve some changes
in the Matronics DNS MX records, and will impact how incoming
email is handled. While I expect these changes to be transparent
to all of the List subscribers, things might go differently... ;-)
The Lists get bombarded with tons of SPAM messages and viruses
each day and fortunately my custom filters have been extremely
effective at filtering most of this from redistribution. Its
time to move to the next level of technology, however, and this
SPAM and Virus filtering appliance seems like an excellent
solution.
I will post a follow up message later in the week when things
have stabilized and I have some filter statistics to share.
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin.
--
Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | RiteAngle3(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | RiteAngle AOA owners |
Hello L-39 owners. I believe I have at least one customer out there in your
ranks. A RiteAngle system (modified for flight data recording) was purchased
several years ago for an R&D contract for a major university and I believe it
was going on an L-39. They purchased it through the engineering dept. of the
school and I know they were flying two years ago as I sent them a new vane.
Evidently the contract expired and I cannot find who has the aircraft. If you
know anyone flying a jet aircraft with the RiteAngle AOA system I would
appreciate your asking them to contact me. Please state model of aircraft, and
how to
contact pilot/contractor if possible.
Those who have questions re AOA please also contact me off list. I don't
want to use the list unless questions are asked that would apply to all.
address for contact: riteangle3(at)aol.com
There are several hundred RiteAngle systems out there and many owners have
changed e-mail addresses.
Thanks,
Elbie
Outstanding Customer Service is our Motto
If you like it let others know
If not let me know!
EM aviation, LLC
Elbie Mendenhall
President
13411 NE Prairie Rd
Brush Prairie, WA 98606
Phone & Fax 360-260-0772
www.RiteAngle.com
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "petraero" <petraero(at)yandex.ru> |
| Subject: | News from Aerotech Company |
Dear Sir,
We have in our stock ground support equipment and engines AI-25TL for L-39C.
All details see at www.aerotech.ru
Best regards,
Aerotech
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [Please Read] SPAM Filter Could Be Causing Posting Problems |
For Some Members...?
Dear Listers,
Matronics is now utilizing a SPAM filter appliance to filter out the
excessive amounts of inappropriate email that bombards the Email List
Forums each day. The filter is reporting that over 66% of the email
messages sent to Matronics email destinations are of SPAM content and
reviewing the logfiles, it would appear to be true. That is indeed great!
While the Lists are enjoying the breath of fresh air afforded by the new
appliance, I am suspecting that a few legitimate email List posts are being
blocked as too, although I can't confirm this. It is difficult to churn
through the logfiles looking though thousands of blocked email messages
trying to determine if any legitimate List posts were blocked.
If you suspect that your posts are accidently being blocked by the SPAM
filter appliance, I have created a new Trouble Report web page that will
allow you to report your problems directly to me without having to use
email. If the SPAM filter is blocking your email address for some reason,
then its likely that I wouldn't be able to receive your direct email
regarding difficulty in posting. The web form bypasses the incoming email
and directs your message directly to me.
Please include as much information as possible regarding the problems you
are having including any bounced email or email error messages that you may
have received back in regard to your posts to the lists. The more
information I have about the email you are sending and what the errors you
are receiving, the better chance I'll have in hunting down the problem.
The Trouble Report Website URL is:
http://www.matronics.com/trouble-report/
I apologize for any inconvenience the SPAM filter may be causing you. I
will work toward resolving your issues as quickly as possible.
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics EMail List Administrator
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "petraero" <petraero(at)yandex.ru> |
| Subject: | News from Aerotech |
Dear Sirs,
New offers from Aerotech Company.
Set of tyres for L-39.
4 new L-29s for sale.
See details in www.aerotech.ru
Best regards,
Aerotech
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "petraero" <petraero(at)yandex.ru> |
Dear Sirs,
We have new L-39C for sale.
Visit www.aerotech.ru for details.
Best regards,
Aerotech
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | All New Matronics Email List Online Chat!!! |
Hi Listers!
A number of Listers have been asking for some Matronics Email List online
chat and NOW ITS HERE! Over the last couple of days I've set up a nifty
web-based Chat site here on the Matronics systems. No special programs to
download; all you need is a late model web browser like Internet Explorer
or Netscape with a java plugin. I would recommend downloading the latest
Java plugin if you experience any problems getting the page to come
up. Here's a link to the Sun Java download
website. http://java.com/en/index.jsp Look for the green box with the
yellow arrow in the upper right corner. Before you bother, though, just
try you browser because it'll probably just work.
Each Email List on Matronics has its own "Room" and all rooms can easily be
accessed from the same client. In the Email List URL Trailer at the bottom
of each List message, you'll find the Link to this List's specific Chat
Room. Just click on the Link, and then type in your name or email address
in the User Name box. Try to use a name or email address that the other
Listers know you by. You'll find me lurking around the various List chat
rooms as "MattDralle".
There's a couple of nifty features I'll explain right off. On the main
Chat Window page after you login, you'll see a little icon with a Hammer
and a Screwdriver. This is the Control Panel window. Once the Control
Panel comes up, click on the "Settings" tab. Here you'll find, among other
things, three check boxes to enable sound. Click all three and you'll be
treated to a sound whenever someone enters or leaves the Room, or when
someone sends a message.
The other cool button is the one that has four little arrows pointing to
each of the four corners of the button. This will rip the main Chat window
from the web page and allow you to resize and move it anyway you'd like.
Let's have some fun and get to know one another better using this awesome
new Chat Room! To get started, just click the URL Link below for this
List's specific Chat Room!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin
PS - I'm working on a web link interface to the chat logfiles. Coming soon...
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | 2003 List Fund Raiser - Please Support Your Lists... |
Dear Listers,
During November of each year, I have a voluntary Email List Fund Raiser to
support the continued operation, development, maintenance and upgrade of
the Email Forums sponsored here. Your Contributions go directly into
improvements in the systems that support the Lists and to pay for the
Internet connectivity primarily dedicated to supporting the Lists.
The traffic on the Lists continues to grow and the numbers are nothing
short of impressive! Here are some statistics that show how much traffic
the Lists generated this year alone:
* 11/01/2002 - 10/31/2003
o Web server hits: 10,446,780 (870,565/mo)
o Incoming Email Posts: 58,918 (4,909/mo)
List-related upgrades this year have been plentiful, and List performance
has substantially improved as a result. Upgrades and enhancements this
year have included:
* Internet Connection upgrade to a full, commercial-grade T1 Line!
* New Web Server platform - Dual 3Ghz Xeon with 2Gb Ram and U320 SCSI!
* Upgrade of Email Server platform - Dual 1.7 Ghz Xeon with 1Gb Ram!
* All new SPAM Filtering Appliance - filters about 98% of the unwanted SPAM!
* All new, web-base List Chat Room society!
As you can well imagine, this year's upgrades translate into a fair amount
of cash outlay on my part and this annual List Fund Raiser is the sole
means by which I fund these upgrades. Unlike most of the other "list
servers" on the Web these days, I have a strict
*no-commercial-advertisement policy* on the Matronics Lists and associated
List web sites. I was again approached by a number of vendors recently
with advertising deals that have been very tempting. My commitment to
providing a grass-roots, non-commercial environment prevailed,
however! Commercialism on the Internet seems to be increasing
exponentially every year, with more and more SPAM and pop up ads, not to
mention the ever increasing Virus attacks.
My goal with the Matronics List Service is to provide all members
with a commercial-free, virus-free, and high-performance system
with which the may share information, ideas, and camaraderie.
The best news this year is that, with the gracious help of Andy Gold and
The Builder's Bookstore ( http://www.buildersbooks.com ), I have been able
to significantly expand the lineup of fantastic Gift offers to support the
List Fund Raiser! In all, there are eight awesome free gifts this year
ranging from List Archive CD's to Flight Computers with qualifying
Contribution levels. Those great Jeppesen Flight Bags that were so popular
last year are even back! A special thanks goes out to Andy Gold again this
year for his very kind and generous support of the Lists. Thanks Andy, for
these great incentives!!
Over the next month I'll be posting a few reminder messages about the List
Fund Raiser, and I ask for your patience and understanding during the
process. Remember that the Lists are *completely* funded through the
generous Contributions of its members. That's it! There's no support from
a bloated advertising budget or deep pockets somewhere. Its all made
possible through YOUR thoughtful and generous support!
To make your List Contribution using a Visa or MasterCard, PalPal, or with
a personal check, please go to the URL link below. Here you can find
additional details on this year's great free Gifts as well as information
on the various methods of payment. Contributions in the $20, $30, $50,
$75, and $100 range are common. The Contribution web page is kind of long
this year with the details of each of the gifts, so please scroll all the
way down!
SSL Secure Contribution Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contributions
I would like to thank everyone who supports the Lists this year! Your
Contributions truly make it all possible!!
Thank you!!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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| Subject: | Un-subscribe from L39-List |
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1. 01:18 PM - 2003 List Fund Raiser - Please Support Your Lists...
(Matt Dralle)
________________________________ Message 1
_____________________________________
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: L39-List: 2003 List Fund Raiser - Please Support Your Lists...
Dear Listers,
During November of each year, I have a voluntary Email List Fund Raiser to
support the continued operation, development, maintenance and upgrade of
the Email Forums sponsored here. Your Contributions go directly into
improvements in the systems that support the Lists and to pay for the
Internet connectivity primarily dedicated to supporting the Lists.
The traffic on the Lists continues to grow and the numbers are nothing
short of impressive! Here are some statistics that show how much traffic
the Lists generated this year alone:
* 11/01/2002 - 10/31/2003
o Web server hits: 10,446,780 (870,565/mo)
o Incoming Email Posts: 58,918 (4,909/mo)
List-related upgrades this year have been plentiful, and List performance
has substantially improved as a result. Upgrades and enhancements this
year have included:
* Internet Connection upgrade to a full, commercial-grade T1 Line!
* New Web Server platform - Dual 3Ghz Xeon with 2Gb Ram and U320 SCSI!
* Upgrade of Email Server platform - Dual 1.7 Ghz Xeon with 1Gb Ram!
* All new SPAM Filtering Appliance - filters about 98% of the SPAM!
* All new, web-base List Chat Room society!
As you can well imagine, this year's upgrades translate into a fair amount
of cash outlay on my part and this annual List Fund Raiser is the sole
means by which I fund these upgrades. Unlike most of the other "list
servers" on the Web these days, I have a strict
*no-commercial-advertisement policy* on the Matronics Lists and associated
List web sites. I was again approached by a number of vendors recently
with advertising deals that have been very tempting. My commitment to
providing a grass-roots, non-commercial environment prevailed,
however! Commercialism on the Internet seems to be increasing
exponentially every year, with more and more SPAM and pop up ads, not to
mention the ever increasing Virus attacks.
My goal with the Matronics List Service is to provide all members
with a commercial-free, virus-free, and high-performance system
with which the may share information, ideas, and camaraderie.
The best news this year is that, with the gracious help of Andy Gold and
The Builder's Bookstore ( http://www.buildersbooks.com ), I have been able
to significantly expand the lineup of fantastic Gift offers to support the
List Fund Raiser! In all, there are eight awesome free gifts this year
ranging from List Archive CD's to Flight Computers with qualifying
Contribution levels. Those great Jeppesen Flight Bags that were so popular
last year are even back! A special thanks goes out to Andy Gold again this
year for his very kind and generous support of the Lists. Thanks Andy, for
these great incentives!!
Over the next month I'll be posting a few reminder messages about the List
Fund Raiser, and I ask for your patience and understanding during the
process. Remember that the Lists are *completely* funded through the
generous Contributions of its members. That's it! There's no support from
a bloated advertising budget or deep pockets somewhere. Its all made
possible through YOUR thoughtful and generous support!
To make your List Contribution using a Visa or MasterCard, PalPal, or with
a personal check, please go to the URL link below. Here you can find
additional details on this year's great free Gifts as well as information
on the various methods of payment. Contributions in the $20, $30, $50,
$75, and $100 range are common. The Contribution web page is kind of long
this year with the details of each of the gifts, so please scroll all the
way down!
SSL Secure Contribution Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contributions
I would like to thank everyone who supports the Lists this year! Your
Contributions truly make it all possible!!
Thank you!!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | List Fund Raiser - Wow, Have You Seen The Free Gifts? |
Dear Listers,
The List Fund Raiser is going well so far this year and I wanted to say
"Thank You" to everyone that has made a Contribution already this year!
Though the generous support of Andy Gold and the Builders Bookstore (
http://www.buildersbooks.com ), I'm able to offer some truly awesome gifts
with qualifying Contributions this year. There's quite a line up and a
rather diverse set of options - certainly something for every taste and
personality. Here's a list of this year's fine options:
* List Archive CD
* Aircraft Builder's Log
* Pilot Flashlight System
* Pro Pilot Logbook
* FAR/AIM on CD
* Jeppesen Flight Bag
* Aviation History Book
* Techstar Flight Computer
Please support your Email List Community AND pick up a really slick Gift at
the same time! The SSL Secure Contribution web site can be found at the
following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/contributions
Once again, I would like to thank everyone that has so generously supported
the continued operation and upgrade of the Lists Services here on the
Matronics servers!!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "petraero" <petraero(at)yandex.ru> |
| Subject: | L-39C and AI-25TL |
Dear Sirs,
There are new items on www.aerotech.ru
4 L-39C of 1984 and 3 AI-25TL. Visit www.aerotech.ru for more information.
Kind regards,
Aerotech
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Dear Listers,
Below are some of the nice things people have been saying about the Lists
in that little message box on the Contribution form! Thank you to everyone
that has made a Contribution thus far and for all the great
feedback! Please know that I really appreciate the comments and support!!
If you haven't yet shown your support for these Lists, won't you take a
moment and make your Contribution today? The Matronics Lists are always
Commercial-Free, SPAM-Free, Virus-Free, and High-performance and its your
direct support through this yearly Fund Raiser that enables all of these
valuable services you've come to expect.
Thank you for your Contribution!!
SSL Secure Web Site - http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Matt Dralle
EMail List Administrator
================================================================
=================== What Listers Are Saying ====================
================================================================
You provide a service to us kit builders that cannot be measured.
-Clifford M.
...great service to the aviation community.
-Curt R.
Thanks for being there - your List has really been of help.
-Thomas R.
Your lists have been most helpful to my RV-9A project.
-Dean V.
...has been a great help to me.
-Jim N.
..."must-have" for RV builders and pilots.
-Douglas W.
I find something every day on the List that helps me in my project.
-Ron P.
...very valuable!
-Patrick L.
Don't know that I could have persevered and succeeded without the List.
-Curt R.
...service continues to be awesome and is one of the most helpful resources
for homebuilding that I have ever found.
-Jim H.
The information and hours of entertainment many of us derive from the Lists
is priceless.
-Chris R.
I learn a lot about my [aircraft] through the Lists...
- Lee P.
Great source of education and entertainment. Love it!!!
-Lar B.
Great List & very well organized.
-Peter D.
I couldn't build my [airplane] without this List.
-William G.
The List is an important part of my daily routine.
-Roger H.
...incredible resource.
-Ron P.
Excellent facility.
-David M.
...unmatched service to all builders and flyers.
-Ralph C.
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [PLEASE READ] - Why Do I Have A Fund Raiser Each Year? |
Dear Listers,
I was thinking that perhaps I should explain why I have a Fund Raiser and
also take the opportunity to express why I think the List Services here
provide a far better experience than the commercial equivalents.
I use the List Fund Raiser each year to offset the costs involved with
running a high performance email list site such as this one. With the
annual support from the List members through the PBS-like Fund Raiser, I
have found I can run the entire site without having to inflect any of the
members with those annoying banner ads flashing up all the time trying to
sell Toner Cartridge Refills or other garbage nobody wants or needs. From
the comments I've received over the years regarding the Lists, the great
majority of the members really appreciate the non-commercialism of my List
systems and don't mind my 'go-team-go' banter once a year to encourage
members to support the Lists.
I believe that the Lists services that I provide here offer a great many
benefits over the commercial equivalents in a number of ways. The first
feature I believe to be particularly significant is that you *cannot*
receive a computer v*rus from any of my Lists directly. I've been on a few
other List servers and have been unfortunate enough to download infected
files people have innocently or not-so-innocently included with their
posts. This just can't happen with my Lists; each incoming message is
filtered and attachments stripped off prior to posting. I provide a Photo
and File Share feature that allows members to share files and bitmaps with
other members and everyone can be assured that these files will be
prescanned for any sort of v*rus before they are posted. Safe and
simple. Also, with this photo and file sharing technique, the Archives
don't get loaded up with a huge amounts of bitmap "data" that slows the
Archive Search times.
Another feature of this system is the extensive List Archives that are
available for download, browsing, and searching. The Archives go all the
way back to the very beginning of each List and with the super fast Search
Engine, the huge size of the Archives is a non-issue in quickly finding the
data you're looking for. Another feature of the Archives, in my opinion,
is that they have been primarily stripped of all the useless email header
data and all the other header garbage that seems to build up in a typical
email thread.
I have received an extremely positive response from Listers regarding the
List Browse feature and the consensus is that the format and ease of use is
outstanding. Members report that having the previous 7 days worth of
messages on line for easy browsing and sorting is hugely beneficial. And
again, as with the real time distribution of List email, the messages are
stripped of all the unnecessary email headers and potentially dangerous
v*ruses.
I've been running email Lists and services under the matronics.com domain
since about 1989 starting with RV-List and 30 guys who I knew and who where
also building RVs. It has grown into over 40 different aviation-related
Email Lists and an associated web site that receives over 10,000,000 hits
each year!! Additionally, the List email system forwards well over
90,000,000 (yes, that 90 MILLION) email messages to subscribers each
year! With all the dot.bombs these days, I think there's a lot of value in
supporting a service that has gone the long haul and is still providing and
improving a high quality service at a price that's nearly free.
I have to admit running these Lists is a labor of love and I hope it shows
in the quality of the experience that you receive when you get a List Email
Message, Search the Archives, or use the List Browser. The Lists will be
here for a long time to come. If you just want to lurk a while for free,
that's great and I encourage you to do so. If you use, appreciate, and
receive value from these Lists, then please support them during the Annual
List Fund Raiser!
-----------------------------------------------
The SSL Secure Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
-----------------------------------------------
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | What Listers Are Saying III |
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Wayne Cahoon @ Aircraft Engravers" <wayne(at)engravers.net> |
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| Subject: | Fuel Cap Engraving, Labeling, Indentifying |
Have your Fuel Caps engraved, it's permanent and easy to read. Aircraft Engravers
has been engraving fuel caps for over 14 years.
You can see our web page at http://engravers.net/aircraft/fuel_caps.htm
Other types of engraving jobs can be viewed at http://engravers.net/main/ac_products.htm
There are a few sets of loaner fuel caps for the more common styles if your tanks
are wet.
FREE shipping by USPS Priority mail for all fuel cap engraving orders in the month
of February.
Wayne Cahoon
Aircraft Engravers
(860) 653-2780
(860) 653-7324 Fax
http://engravers.net/
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
DNA: not not archive
| Subject: | [PLEASE READ] Virus Laden Spam Purports To Be From Matronics... |
Dear Listers,
First let me say that I normally don't condone the sharing of warnings
about Internet viruses on the Matronics Email Lists. I don't want to
start a storm of discussion regarding computer viruses on the Lists, so
please just note the information below and refrain from commenting to
the List. The circumstances I describe below are disturbing enough
that I felt an explanation is necessary. That being said...
There is a new email-bourne virus running rampant on the Internet that
is cleverly disguising itself as legitimate email warning of such
things as:
"your email account is disabled because of unauthorized access"
"Some of our clients complained about the spam (negative e-mail
content) outgoing from your e-mail account"
"Probably, you have been infected by a proxy-relay trojan server. In
order to keep your computer safe, follow the instructions."
"Our main mailing server will be temporary unavailable for next two
days, to continue receiving mail in these days you have to
configure our free auto-forwarding service."
All of these messages include an attachment that you are instructed to
click upon to "Get more information", "clean the virus from your
system", or "check your system for infections".
These enclosures all contain a virus that will infect your system and
propagate even more copies of the original message.
The disturbing part of these messages is that they appear to be coming
from very legitimate addresses and have very legitimate, convincing
dialog. For example, I have received a number of them today that
appear to be from "support(at)matronics.com", "management(at)matronics.com",
"administration(at)matronics.com", and "staff(at)matronics.com".
The text of the messages seems believable enough, and given the forged
source address, seem even more legitimate.
Please be assured that no one at Matronics.com will be sending you
these kinds of messages. If you receive one, it is a spam/virus that
has forged headers and was sent to you from someone other than
Matronics. Delete the message and the attachment promptly. Invest in
a copy of Norton Antivirus and keep the definitions up dated on a daily
basis.
Again, I want to stress that I *DO NOT* want a big discussion of
viruses on the Matronics Email Lists. Please do not reply to this
email with any comments. You may write to me directly at
dralle(at)matronics.com if you wish, but do not include the List.
Since many of these appear to come from matronics.com, I wanted to
assure everyone that Matronics wasn't the real source of these messages.
Let's be careful out there and keep those virus definitions up to date!
Today alone, the Matronics spam filter and virus blocking appliance
has filtered out 11,550 spam messages and 375 viruses! That's just in
an 18 hour period!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
--
Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Russell Johnson <entec1(at)pld.com> |
| Subject: | You`ve got 1 VoiceMessage! |
Dear Customer!
You`ve got 1 VoiceMessage from voicemessage.com website!
You can listen your Virtual VoiceMessage at the following link:
http://virt.voicemessage.com/index.listen.php2=35affv
or by clicking the attached link.
Send VoiceMessage! Try our new virtual VoiceMessage Empire!
Best regards: SNAF.Team (R).
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Hartley Postlethwaite <hap1995(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | All Red Star DVD is Complete!!! |
The All Red Star DVD and CD compilation of pictures are complete! It will be duplicated
and packaged next week so expect to have it in your mailboxes within
two weeks. It is a FIRST CLASS product that consists of a DVD that is 29 minutes
long which is broken up into six exciting segments (An Opening Music Video,
Props, Jets, Crud, Formation Challenge, and The Riviting Closing Music Video).
You will also get a CD that is FULL of All Red Star III pictures. Cynthia,
Julie, and Toni did an outstanding job capturing the weekends activites.
If you didn't order a DVD and CD package and want to, please let me know off the
list and I will make you a copy while we are producing. You will need to mail
me the check ASAP so I can have yours sent out with everyone elses.
This is totally worth it for the DVD, it shows almost every plane and activity
that went on during the weekend. If you were there, you are most likely in the
video.
Now the cost is $35.00 (it would have been $25.00 if you bought it at the banquet)
- but that is less than the cost of 1 hour of AVGAS. This is cheap considering
the quality of the videos and the memories it portrays, trust me!
Hope to see you at the next All Red Star if I am not stuck in Spain with the Navy!
-Postal
Hartley Postlethwaite
1861 Cherry St #4
Jacksonville, FL 32205
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Land Shorter <landshorter2(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | New product announcement: affordable VG's |
homebuilt-list(at)matronics.com, jabiru-list(at)matronics.com,
kitfox-list(at)matronics.com, kolb-list(at)matronics.com, kr-list(at)matronics.com,
l29-list(at)matronics.com, l39-list(at)matronics.com,
lancair-list(at)matronics.com.1.00.SORTED_RECIPS.Recipient.list.is.sorted.by.address
Hey folks,
I double checked and Matt Dralle's earlier post says it's OK to post about new
aviation products as long as the message doesn't come off as having a "flavor"
of "traditional spam". Don't worry I'm not going to try to sell you anything
that supposedly makes any of your body parts larger (or smaller) and this product
is directly aviation related :) I'm just an airplane builder, owner, pilot,
and aviation nut who wants to tell you where you can find more information about
a great new product.
I've been selling kits of vortex generators (VG's) for only $95 and my customers are telling me they really like the performance gains they're seeing. VG's are great for reducing stall speeds and allow you to land slower, shorter, and safer. I invite you to check out my site at www.landshorter.com and see what you think. My VG's can be quickly installed for testing using removable double-stick tape and come with a 100% money-back guarantee so why not try them out on your plane? You'll be really glad you did :)
Thanks and let's keep 'em flying!
Joa Harrison
The VG Guy
www.landshorter.com
1-877-272-1414 (toll free)
---------------------------------
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Lister Comments - Please Support The Lists |
Dear Listers,
Wow! People have been including some very nice comments along with their
Contributions lately! I've included another set of below and will send
another set in a couple of days.
Guys, I really appreciate your kind words and support. In the last few
days, the contributions have really started to come in and its looking like
support this year may slightly surpass last year's. There's still a few
days left in this year's Fund Raiser, so if you've been waiting until the
last minute to make your Contribution, now's the time!
Make Your Contribution Today: http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
----------------- More of What Listers Are Saying... --------------------
Every morning 5:30 am, coffee and the "List". It's how I start my day.
Robert G.
The list is still my favorite aviation magazine.
Roger H.
Great resource, without the distraction of pop ups and ads!
Douglas D.
I look forward to my daily list reading almost as much as my coffee!
Hal K.
Great service!
Aaron G.
I have made some great friends, because of it!
Bob D.
Great resource!!
Richard S.
I learn something of value every time I read the messages.
Stan S.
Great list!
Thomas E.
Now that I am close to completion of my [homebuilt], I look back
and wonder how I could ever have made it this far without [the Lists].
Jeff O.
Outstanding site and administration.
Anthony S.
Great forum for our projects.
Darrel M.
I have become a List Addict!
George M.
A very helpful resource for me.
Dennis K.
Great for staying up on the latest.
Forrest L.
Valuable benefit for the users.
George A.
Great tool for all [builders].
Tony M.
Can't tell you how much I appreciate the archives.
Ken B.
I really enjoy the sharing of information and the "discussions" that come up.
Ross S.
[The List] reminds us home builders that help is just a few clicks away.
Danny W.
A great resource!
Christopher S.
Always a pleasure to support this list!
Richard W.
Thanks for helping all of us build better aircraft.
John P.
Great list(s)for data, info and making friends.
John S.
[The] List has helped me much with my building process.
Raimo T.
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
| Subject: | [PLEASE READ NOW] - Addressing Upgrade At Matronics TONIGHT! |
Dear Listers,
Service Provider to upgrade to a larger IP subnet. I will be
re-addressing all of the machines on the network including the
Matronics Web Server and Matronics Email Server at that time. Name
Service will be updated at that time as well and most things should
work again pretty quick. There may be some bounced email for a few hours
or even a day or so as the new name-to-ip-address resolutions propagate
into the depths of the Internet.
If you have problems posting a message to one of the Lists or get a
bounced message back, please wait a couple of hours and try sending it
again. Generally, access to the web site should work within 1-hour of
Hopefully the transition will go smoothly and you'll hardly even
notice! :-)
Thanks for your patience!
Matt Dralle
List Administrator
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Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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| From: | "Steve Chervenak" <warbirdsteve(at)qwest.net> |
| Subject: | RE: L39-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 04/08/05 |
Please remove me from your mailing list.
Regards,
Steve Chervenak
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [Please Read] Matronics Email Server Upgrade... |
Dear Listers,
I will be upgrading the Matronics Email Server this weekend. This includes
some hardware improvements - more memory, faster, more capable processors -
as well as a complete operating system upgrade from scratch. I hope to
have both the old system and the new system running at the same time to
minimize the actual impact of the upgrade.
Hopefully there will be little actual downtime during the transition, but a
few posts may get lost in the shuffle. If you don't see your post show up
on the List in the normal amount of time (plus a little bit), then please
just try posting it again.
Upgrading the Matronics Email Server operating system (from Redhat Linux
7.2 to Redhat Linux WS 4) is a sizeable undertaking and requires a great
deal of work to port all of the utilities, programs, and scripts over to
the new system. As I've already mentioned, both the old and new systems
will be on line at the same time, so interruption should be held to an
absolute minimal. You might see a couple of odd test messages during the
cut-over or other odd messages; please just ignore them.
I have setup a new System Status Web Page that I will use to update List
Members on the current status of the email and web systems. Please refer
to it as often as you like:
http://www.matronics.com/SystemStatus/
Thank you for your continued support of the List Services at
Matronics! Its your yearly Contributions that make these major upgrades
possible!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [Please Read] Matronics Email Server Upgrade Complete! |
Dear Listers,
The upgrade of the Matronics Email Server can be considered complete at
this time. All known issues related to the upgrade process have been
resolved and email services are running normal. The Nightly Digest
processing has not yet been tested and will wait for tonight's update.
If you encounter any odd behavior with respect to the Matronics Email
Server over the next few days, please contact me via email at
dralle(at)matronics.com or if that fails try dralle(at)speakeasy.net.
Thanks to everyone for being patient through this arduous process of a
major system upgrade!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
At 12:37 PM 4/16/2005 Saturday, Matt Dralle wrote:
>Dear Listers,
>
>I will be upgrading the Matronics Email Server this weekend. This
>includes some hardware improvements - more memory, faster, more capable
>processors - as well as a complete operating system upgrade from
>scratch. I hope to have both the old system and the new system running at
>the same time to minimize the actual impact of the upgrade.
>
>Hopefully there will be little actual downtime during the transition, but
>a few posts may get lost in the shuffle. If you don't see your post show
>up on the List in the normal amount of time (plus a little bit), then
>please just try posting it again.
>
>Upgrading the Matronics Email Server operating system (from Redhat Linux
>7.2 to Redhat Linux WS 4) is a sizeable undertaking and requires a great
>deal of work to port all of the utilities, programs, and scripts over to
>the new system. As I've already mentioned, both the old and new systems
>will be on line at the same time, so interruption should be held to an
>absolute minimal. You might see a couple of odd test messages during the
>cut-over or other odd messages; please just ignore them.
>
>I have setup a new System Status Web Page that I will use to update List
>Members on the current status of the email and web systems. Please refer
>to it as often as you like:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/SystemStatus/
>
>
>Thank you for your continued support of the List Services at
>Matronics! Its your yearly Contributions that make these major upgrades
>possible!
>
>Best regards,
>
>Matt Dralle
>Matronics Email List Administrator
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | List Digest Truncation Fixed!! |
Dear Listers,
I finally figured out today what was causing the occasional
truncation of the daily List Digest emails. Seems that every once in
a while a message would contain a single "." (period) on line all by
itself. The mailers would see this and assume that this was the
universal emailer signal for "end of message", and consequently
wouldn't process any of the rest of the Digest message.
I've put in a filter today to remove any of these sequences so we
should be back in business on the Digests.
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin.
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Dear Listers,
I will be taking the Matronics Web Server down for a few hours today,
Tuesday September 6 2005 for a chassis upgrade. Archive browsing and
searching along with subscription services will be unavailable for
be processed normally during the upgrade. Please check the Matronics
System Status Page for updates (although this page resides on the web
server and won't be available during the upgrade):
http://www.matronics.com/SystemStatus/
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin.
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Patrick Scofield <patrick(at)designworx.com> |
I have a simple l-39 maintenance question for the experts. I 've heard
enough differing answers that I have questions
At what time should the hydraulic level in the main reservoir be
between the indexes in the glass window. When running? after shut
down? Accumulators full or discharged?
Patrick Scofield
L-39ZA N399ZA
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | minh venator <minhjet(at)netzero.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Hydraulic level |
with the accumulators full service. during engine running (after all
hydraulic systems has been excise ).or after shut down.
minh
at minhjet
At 07:43 AM 11/8/2005, you wrote:
>
>I have a simple l-39 maintenance question for the experts. I 've heard
>enough differing answers that I have questions
>
>At what time should the hydraulic level in the main reservoir be
>between the indexes in the glass window. When running? after shut
>down? Accumulators full or discharged?
>
>
>Patrick Scofield
>L-39ZA N399ZA
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Larry" <larry(at)jetwarbird.com> |
| Subject: | can you send me an l-39 list? |
would appreciate an l-39 list...
thanks
Larry Salganek
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | All New BBS Interface For Matronics List Forums! |
Dear Listers,
I'm very proud to announce a completely new BBS interface is now available for
all of the Email Lists at Matronics! This is a full-featured system that allows
for viewing, posting, attachments, polls - the works.
But the best part is that it is *completely* integrated with all of the existing
email tools currently available at Matronics! What this means at the most basic
level is that, if you post a message to List from Email in the traditional
way, it will show up on the BBS system *and* get distributed to everyone currently
subscribed to the Email List. By the same token, if you are on the BBS
and post a message to a given List-Forum, the message will not only show up on
the BBS, but also be distributed to everyone on the Email List!!
It is really a very nice implementation and I am very pleased with its operation.
All of the tools you have come to know and love such as the List Search Engine
and List Browse and Download will still be available and contain all of the
latest posts. Think of the new BBS interface as just another method of accessing
the all of the Lists.
You can use the BBS to view all of the latest posts without having to do anything
except use your browser to surf over to the site. You can view and look at
all of the various List's posts. If you want to post a new message or reply
to an existing message from the BBS, you will have to Register on the BBS. This
is a *very* simple process and will only take a couple of minutes. There is
a small icon in the upper righthand side of the main BBS page labeled "Register"
to get you started.
I strongly recommend that you use the exact *same* email address you are subscribed
to the Email Lists with when registering on the BBS. Also, while not an
absolute requirement, I would really appreciate it if people would use their full
name when choosing their Username on the BBS (for example "Matt Dralle").
This just makes it easier for everyone to know who's posting. Also, I have enabled
the ability to upload a small user picture with your profile called an
"avatar". Please use a *real* picture of yourself *with* your cloths on! Thank
you! Maximum size of the bitmap is 120x120.
You can either be subscribed to the BBS, or any number of Email Lists, or both.
Registering on the BBS will allow you to email directly to all of the various
Lists. However, to receive direct List Email, you will need to be *subscribed*
to the various Lists as you have in the past. No changes here in operation.
I have added numerous links on the BBS pointing to the Email List subscription
page.
I've had the BBS connected to the Lists for about a week now, so its already loaded
up with a fair number of messages. You can post photos and other documents
directly to the BBS and links to them will appear in the List Email distributions.
Also, when any messages posted to the BBS are viewed in the List Email
distribution, there will be a URL link at the bottom of the message pointing
back to the BBS.
And here's what you've been waiting for -- the main URL for the new Matronics Email
List BBS is:
http://forums.matronics.com
Please surf on over, Register, and have a great time! I think this will be the
dawn of a whole new era for the Lists at Matronics!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Six New Email Lists / Forums At Matronics! |
Dear Listers,
Its my pleasure to announce the addition of six new Email List / Forums to the
aviation line up at Matronics! These new lists support all the usual features
you've come to know and love from the Matronics Email List including full integration
with the All New Web BBS Forums Site!! The new Lists include:
LycomingEngines-List Textron/Lycoming Engines
RotaxEngines-List Rotax Engine for Aircraft
M14PEngines-List Vendenyev M14P Radial Engine
MurphyMoose-List Murphy Moose Aircraft
Allegro-List Allegro 2000, a Czech-built, Rotax-powered Aircraft
Falco-List Sequoia Aircraft's Falco Experimental
To sign up for any or all of the new Lists, surf over to the Matronics Email List
Subscription Form and follow the instructions:
http://www.matronics.com/subscribe
Don't forget to check out the All New Web BBS Forum now available along with all
of the usual message and archive viewing tools at the Matronics Email Lists
site. Surf over to the following URL for information on the BBS Forum:
http://forums.matronics.com
Enjoy the new Lists!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Matronics Email List Wiki! |
Dear Listers,
I have added a new feature to the Email List Forums at Matronics called a Wiki. What's "Wiki" you ask? A Wiki is a website. You go to it and browse just like you would any other web site. The difference is, you can change it. You can put anything you want on this web site without having to be a web designer or even being the owner. You can write a new page just like writing an email message on the BBS. You don't need to send it off to anyone to install on the site. It is kind of like a Blog (weblog) in which anyone can post. Here is a great page on where the term Wiki came from and what it means in the context of a website: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki
So on to the new Matronics Email List Wiki... I've created this site for anyone
from any of the Email Lists to use. I envision that there are a great many
things that can be added to this new Wiki since there are always new and interesting
tidbits of useful information traversing the Lists.
Off the main Matronics Email List Wiki page, you will find a link called "Community
Portal". Here you will find more links to stubs for all the various Lists
found at Matronics (and a few other links). Brian Lloyd and others from the
Yak-List have already begun adding content in a number of areas. Bob Nuckolls
of AeroElectric fame has added a great article on "Ageing Aircraft".
I have discussed the new Matronics Email List Wiki with Tedd McHenry and Dwight Frye of the RV Wiki Site and they have decided to merge their site over onto the new Matronics Wiki server giving everyone a single source for information on RV building and flying! This migration will begin today and you should be able to find all of the content currently found at www.rvwiki.org moved over to the Matronics Wiki within a few days.
To make edits to the Matronics Wiki, you will need to have a login account on the
Matronics Wiki and I have disabled anonymous edits. This protects the Wiki
site from automated spam engines and other nuisances that could compromise the
data at the site.
Signing up for an account is fast and easy and begins by clicking on the "create
an account or log in" link in the upper right hand corner of any page. Note
that you do not have to have a login or be logged in to view any of the content.
The Matronics Email List Wiki is YOUR Wiki! It is only as useful as the content
found within. The concept of the Wiki is that the people the use it and update
it. If you've got an interesting procedure for doing something, MAKE A WIKI
PAGE ON IT! You can even upload pictures. Saw something interesting at a
flyin? MAKE A WIKI PAGE ON IT! Don't be shy, this is YOUR site to share information
with others with similar interests.
Here is a users guide on using the Wiki implemented at Matronics: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Contents This gives a lot of great information on how to get started editing pages.
And finally, here is the URL for the Matronics Email List Wiki:
http://wiki.matronics.com
Brian Lloyd has written an excellent introduction to Wikis on the front page.
I encourage you to read it over, then drill into the "Community Portal" and HAVE
FUN!!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Rob Stapleton" <foto(at)alaska.net> |
Does anyone know how to contact Mira Slovak a former L-39 owner?
Rob Stapleton Photojournalist
Anchorage Alaska
907-336-9425
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Matronics BBS Forums |
Hello Listers,
I just wanted to send out a reminder to all of the Listers regarding the new-ish
BBS (Bulletin Board System) Forums that are available at Matronics for the Email
Lists. The BBS Forums give you Web-based access into the same email content
that is generated by the Email Lists. When an email message is posted to
any of the email lists, a copy of the message is also copied to the respective
List forum section on in the BBS Forums. By the same token, when a message is
posted within the BBS Forum interface context, it will also be posted to the
respective email list.
Basically, the BBS Forums give you yet another method of accessing the Matronics
Email List content. Some people prefer email, some prefer web forums; now you
can have it either way or both with the Matronics Lists!
You'll have to register for a login/password on the BBS Forum to _post_ from the
BBS, but you can view message content without registering for an account. To
Register for an account, look for the link at the top of the main BBS Forum
page entitled "Register". Click on it and follow the instructions. Site Administrator
approval will be required (to keep spammers out), but I will try to
get these approved in less than 24 hours.
If you haven't yet taken a look at the Matronics Email List content over on the
BBS Forum, surf on over and take a peek. Its pretty cool. The URL is:
http://forums.matronics.com
I want to stress that the BBS Forums are simply an adjunct to the existing Matronics
Email Lists; another way of viewing and interacting with the Matronics List
content. If you like Email, great. If you like Web Forums, great. If you
like both, great. Its up to you how you view and create your content.
You will also find a URL link at the bottom of this email called Matronics List
Features Navigator. You can click on this link at any time to find URL links
to all of the other great features available on the Matronics site like the Archive
Search Engine, List Browse, List Download, FAQs, Wiki, and lots more.
There is a specific Navigator for each Email List and the link for this specific
List is shown below.
Thanks for all the great list participation and support; it is greatly appreciated!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Two New Email Lists at Matronics and Wiki Reminder! |
Dear Listers,
I have added two new email Lists to the Matronics Line up today. These include
a Continental engine List and a Lightning aircraft List:
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continental-list(at)matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Continental-List
Everything related to the Continental aircraft engine. Sky's the limit on discussions
here.
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lightning-list(at)matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List
This is an exciting new design from Arion Aircraft LLC in Shelbyville Tennessee. Pete Krotje has a very nice web site on the aircraft that can be found here: http://www.arionaircraft.com/
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Also, if you haven't checked out the new Matronics Aircraft Wiki, swing by and
have a look. Remember, a Wiki is only as good as the content that the members
put into it. Have a look over some of the sections, and if you've got some interesting
or useful, please add it to the Wiki! Its all about YOU! :-) The
URL for the Matronics Wiki is:
http://wiki.matronics.com
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | List Enclosure Support |
Dear Listers,
Over the years, I have resisted the urge to enable enclosure support on the Matronics
Lists for a number of reasons relating to performance, capacity, capability,
and security. However, its now 2006 and most everyone using email these
days is on an email client that, at some level, supports the viewing and handling
of enclosures. I get a fair amount of email each month from people on the
various Lists asking why their posts of this or that picture didn't go through.
Back quite a while ago by popular request, I enabled enclosure support for a few
Lists such as the RV10-List, Kolb-List, and the Tailwind-List. Contrary to
my fears, there really hasn't been any significant issues on these Lists relating
to the advent of enclosure support and for the most part, members have policed
themselves well with respect to the size of things they have posted.
Having enclosures enabled on some Lists and not others has given me a fair amount
of headaches with respect to filtering messages and content since the formats
are often quite different between a typical MIME encoded message and a generic
plain-text message. The spammers are getting more cleaver all the time and
are constantly trying to thwart my best efforts at keeping them from posting
to the Lists.
So, for these reasons, I've have decided to go ahead and enable limited enclosure
posting on all of the email Lists at Matronics. This will not only increase
the utility of the Lists, but will afford me a better opportunity to filter
out the chaff.
Here are some of the features and limits of enclosures on the Matronics Lists:
1) Enclosures will only be posted to the Real Time version of the
Lists.
2) Enclosures will NOT be included in the Daily Digest version of
the Lists.
3) Enclosures WILL BE forwarded on to the BBS Forum Web site.
4) Enclosures will NOT be appended to the Archives.
5) Enclosures will NOT be available in the List Browse feature.
6) Only the following file types and extensions will be allowed:
jpg, bmp, gif, txt, xls, pdf, and doc
All other enclosures types will be rejected and email returned to
sender. The enclosure types listed above are relatively safe from
a virus standpoint and don't pose a particularly large security risk.
7) !! All incoming enclosures will be scanned for viruses prior to posting
to the List. This is done in real time and will not slow down
the process of posting the message !!
Here are some rules for posting enclosures. Failure to abide by these rules could
result in the removal of a subscriber's email address from the Lists.
1) Pay attention to what you are posting!! Make sure that the files
you are enclosing aren't HUGE (greater that 1MB). Remember that there
are still people checking they're email via dial up modem. If you post
30MB worth of pictures, you are placing an unnecessary burden on these
folks and the rest of us, for that matter.
2) SCALE YOUR PICTURES DOWN!!! I don't want to see huge 3000 x 2000
pictures getting posted that are 3 or 4MB each. This is just
unacceptable. Use a program such as Photoshop to scale the picture
down to something on the order of 800 x 600 and try to keep the
file size to less-than 200KB, preferably much less.
Microsoft has a really awesome utility available for free that allows
you to Right-Click on a picture in Explorer and automatically
scale it down and resave it. This is a great utility - get it, use it!
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx
Look for the link "Image Resizer"
3) !! This would seem to go without saying, but I'll say it anyway. Do not
post anything that would be considered offensive by your grandmother.
And you know what I'm saying; I don't want to see anything even
questionable. !!
4) REMEMBER THIS: If you post a 1MB enclosure to a List with 1000 members
subscribed, your 1MB enclosure must be resent 1000 times amounting
to 1MB X 1000 = 1 Gigabyte of network traffic!! BE CAREFUL and BE COURTEOUS!
I hope everyone will enjoy the added functionality of enclosures. Please police
yourself and use good judgement when posting messages with enclosures using
the guidelines I've outlined above.
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Matronics Email List Web Server Upgrade Tonight... |
Dear Listers,
This evening I will be upgrading the Matronics Web Server hardware to a new Quad-processor
2.8Ghz Xeon system (yes, 4-physical CPUs!) with an Ultra 320 SCSI
Raid 5 disk system and 5GB of DDR2 RAM.
As with the older system, the new system will be running the latest version of
Redhat Linux. Most of the software configuration work is already done for the
migration, but I still have to sync all of the archive and forum data from the
old system to the new system. I am anticipating about 2 to 3 hours of downtime
for me to fully make the transition, although it could be considerable less
if everything goes according to plan.
The Matronics Webserver will be *UNavailable* from the Internet during the work,
and you will receive a time-out if you try to connect during the upgrade.
Email List Distribution will be *available* during the upgrade of the Web Server,
and List message distribution will function as normal.
This represents a significant performance upgrade for the Matronics Web Server
and you should notice nicely improved searching and surfing performance following
the upgrade!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | New Incoming Message Size Limit Implemented... |
Dear Listers,
Due to a number of requests to limit the size of incoming posts to the Lists because
of the recently added enclosure feature, I have add a new filter that will
limit the total size of any given message posted to the List. I have initially
set the limit to 2MB
and we'll see how everyone likes that.
If a member attempts to post a message that is greater than the set limit, they
will receive an email back indicating that their message wasn't posted to the
List and why. Also included in the message will be the current size limit and
how large their message
was.
Some might say that 2MB is still too large, but its a place to start...
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Comcast Was Blocking Matronics Email Lists... |
Dear Listers (Specifically Comcast Listers),
For about the last two days, Comcast was blocking incoming email from the Matronics
Email Lists because their spam filters thought the mail was spam. I was
that people on Comcast are receiving List messages again.
If you are a Comcast user, you might want to email them and express your displeasure
with their Spam blocking policy, particularly as it relates to "matronics.com".
Sorry for the hassle...
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Matronics Email List Fund Raiser - November! |
Dear Listers,
Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operation
and upgrade of the List services at Matronics. It's through these sole Contributions
of List members that these Matronics Lists are possible.
You have probably noticed that there are no banner ads or pop-up windows on any of the Matronics Lists or related web sites such as the Forums site ( http://forums.matronics.com ), Wiki site ( http://wiki.matronics.com ), or other related pages such as the List Search Engine ( http://www.matornics.com/search ), List Browse ( http://www.matornics.com/listbrowse ), etc. This is because I believe in a List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely Airplanes and not about annoying advertisments.
During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every few days
reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. Each message will generally
highlight a particular feature or benefit of the Matronics Lists or detail
a new feature or service that was added this year. I ask for your patience
and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages.
The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all of the
bills associated with running these lists.
Once again, this year I've got a terrific line up of free gifts to go along with
the various Contribution levels. Most all of these gifts have been provided
by some of the vary members and vendors that you'll find on Matronics Lists and
have been either donated or provided at substantially discounted rates.
This year, these generous people include Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric Connection (http://www.aeroelectric.com/), Paul Besing of Aeroware Enterprises aka Kitlog Pro (http://www.kitlog.com/), Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore (http://www.buildersbooks.com/), and Jon Croke of HomebuiltHELP (http://www.homebuilthelp.com/).
These are extremely generous guys and I encourage you to visit their respective
web sites. Each one offers a unique and very useful aviation-related product
line. I would like publicly to thank Bob, Paul, Andy, and Jon for their generous
support of the Lists again this year!!
You can make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods this
year including using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. All three methods
afford you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with
a qualifying Contribution amount!!
To make your Contribution, please visit the secure site below:
https://www.matronics.com/contribution
I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral
support over the years. I know it sounds a little cliche, but you guys really
do feel like family.
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Have You Tried The New Matronics List Forum? |
Hello Listers,
One of the major new additions to the Matronics Email Lists this year was the addition
of a new and full function Forum Web Site at:
http://forums.matronics.com
The best part of these new Forums is that they are tied directly to the Classic
email distribution Lists! That also means that posts go in both directions.
If you post a message on the Forum web site, it will be cross posted to the respective
Email List. And, if you post a message to a particular Email List,
it will be cross posted to the same respective forum on the Forum site!
So, no matter what your content viewing pleasure is - either direct email distribution
or web-based GUI interface, you can have it at the Matronics Email Lists!
Won't you make a Contribution to support these Lists? It is your SOLE Contributions
that make their continued operation and upgrade possible!
The Contribution site is Fast, Easy, and Secure. Please surf over and make your
Contribution today:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Wow, Cool! New List Feature... [Please Read] |
Dear Listers,
By popular suggestion, I've written a substantial new code module for the Matronics
Email Lists system. Here's how it works...
During each November, I send out quite a few PBS-like "Please make a Contribution
to support your List" emails. Wouldn't it be cool if, once a member made a
Contribution, they didn't have to receive my support pleas anymore for the rest
of that year?
Well, that's exactly what I've written! Following this posting, anyone that makes
a List Contribution in 2006 will no longer receive my Contribution Pleas for
the rest of the year!
The best part is this not only applies to the Realtime distribution, but also the
Digest distribution! For those that have made a Contribution, the Daily Digest
email-version will be invisibly stripped of my requests as well! (Note that
my requests will still be present in the online versions of the Digests, List
Browse, and on the Forum site.)
For those submitting their Contribution by personal Check, please be sure to include
your email address along with your Check as this is what is used to determine
eligibility.
So, in a nutshell, here's how it works:
Make a Contribution = No more "Please Make a Contribution" messages!
How sweet is that? If that's not a great reason to jump on the Matronics Email
List Contribution site and make your donation today, I don't know what is!
Don't forget that there are some totally awesome free gifts to be had along with
your List Contribution this year!! Don't wait a minute longer to support your
Lists!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you for your Support!!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | If You Got This Email, You Haven't Made A Contribution Yet! |
:-)
If you received this particular Matronics List Email message, its because you haven't
yet made a Contribution to support your Lists! This is the first PBS-like
funds drive message under the new distribution system. The new system selectively
sends out the Contribution messages ONLY to those that forgot to whip
out the 'ol credit card this year to support the continued operation and upgrade
of the Matronics Email Lists! Don't you wish PBS worked that way? :-)
You heard that right. Once you make your Contribution, these support requests
messages during November will suddenly stop coming to your personal email inbox!
Pardon me if I seem kind of excited about the new feature. I've wanted to
implement something like this for a number of years now, but it was always such
a daunting task to modify the back-end List processing code, that I just kept
putting it off. Finally this year, I just decided to bite the bullet and put
the code-pounding time it to make it work. A few days later, bam! A working
system!
Anyway, I'll stop gushing now. I really do appreciate each and every one of your
individual Contributions to support the Lists. It is your support that enables
me to upgrade the hardware and software that are required to run a List Site
like this. It also goes to pay for the Commercial-Grade Internet connection
and to pay the rather huge electric bill to keep the computer gear running
and the air conditioner powered up.
Your personal Contribution matters because when combined with other Listers such
as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up and running. I accept exactly
ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand
the pop-up ads and all other commercialism that is so prevalent on the Internet
these days and I particularly don't want to have it on my Email List site.
I'm pretty sure you don't either.
If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email
Lists, please make a Contribution today to keep it that way!!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Clarification On New Contribution Module Operation... |
Dear Listers,
A number of Listers emailed and indicated that, even though they had made a Contribution
this year, they still received the Contribution message yesterday.
I looked into it and I found a slight anomaly (ok, bug) in the new code specifically
as it related to Listers that had made their Contribution through PayPal
AND have a DIFFERENT email address for their PayPal account and for their Matronics
List subscription.
If your PayPal account email address is DIFFERENT than the email address you are
subscribed to the Matronics List(s) as, then my new code module couldn't tell
that you had made a Contribution, since it was using the PayPal email address
instead of the List email.
I've fixed this issue for any new PayPal Contributions, but I don't have any easy
way of resolving this for any of the previous Contribtuions. Again, this is
ONLY an issue if your PayPal and Matronics List email addresses ARE NOT the
same. Otherwise, everything works great.
If you made a PayPal Contribution before 11/09/06 AND your email addresses don't
match, please drop me an email at " info(at)matronics.com " (do not reply to this
message!) and give me your Name, and both Email Addresses and I will manually
update the records so that things will work as advertised.
Sorry for the hassle! New code; new bugs... :-)
To make a Contribution, please see: http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administration
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Dear Listers,
I added a new Wiki web site to the Matronics Email List features earlier this year. What's a Wiki, you ask? Well, here's the Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki) definition:
A wiki (IPA: [ w .ki ] or [ wi .ki ] ) is a type of Web site
that allows the visitors themselves to easily add, remove, and otherwise edit
and change some available content, sometimes without the need for registration.
This ease of interaction and operation makes a wiki an effective tool for
collaborative authoring. The term wiki also can refer to the collaborative software
itself (wiki engine) that facilitates the operation of such a Web site,
or to certain specific wiki sites, including the computer science site (an original
wiki), WikiWikiWeb, and on-line encyclopedias such as Wikipedia.
Under the Matronics Email List Moniker, there is now a very nice List-specific
Wiki available! It a place for Listers to put articles about any aviation topic
that suits them. The purpose is to provide what the mailing lists do not:
structure and persistence. The mailing lists are a fantastic resource to ask
a question and get good (and bad and funny and annoying) answers. But once the
question is asked and answered it is not in front of the List anymore. If a
new person subscribes the next day, he/she does not see that information unless
he/she goes to the trouble to search the archives, a hit or miss proposition.
The result is that the same thread of conversation gets created and/or revisited.
There are several things that happen as a result:
1. The person gets his or her question answered;
2. The information gets better as more people think about and answer the question;
3. The people who have seen the same question asked and answered get annoyed
at seeing the same things over and over and over and ...
So this is where the Wiki comes in. You know what questions you wanted answered.
You may have asked or answered the question. You know the information is useful.
So you put the information here, in the Matronics Email List Wiki!
It doesn't matter that this information is 100% complete or correct. Just writing
something creates a placeholder and makes useful information available immediately.
It has the same immediacy as the mailing list but it has persistence
and structure.
But what if the information is incomplete or incorrect? No problem! Anyone else
coming along can edit the article! If I write something and you discover something
I have left out or stated incorrectly, you can fix it right then!
So let's begin and make this the place for information about building, flying,
maintaining, and understanding our airplanes.
But what about whether something is "appropriate" or not? Don't worry. Write
it down. Let the reader determine whether or not it is appropriate. If it is,
he/she will read it. If it isn't, he/she won't. It's as simple as that.
And when you do write that article you won't have to worry about whether some editor
is going to decide whether or not to print it in a newsletter or whether
the webmaster will have time to put it up on the web page.
The last question I hear brewing out there is: if anyone can post anything, won't
this just become a mass of garbage? Surprisingly, the answer is a resounding
no. If you want proof, go visit the Wikipedia, a free-to-everyone encyclopedia
written by whoever wants to write articles. The articles there are as good
as anything I have read anywhere and anyone can add anything anytime they want
to.
So don't hesitate. Write it down. Put it here. It will never hurt anyone. The
more information we get here, the more useful it will become to other people
and the more information they will put here for YOU to use.
Here's the URL to start (there are lots more bured under this starting place):
http://www.matronics.com/wiki/index.php/Matronics:Community_Portal
But please don't forget that this Wiki and all of the other Matronics Email List
features are supported solely by YOUR Contributions!! November is List Fund
Raiser month and there are lots of Free Gifts to be had with your qualifying
Contribution. Please make a Contribution to support the continued operation and
upgrade of these great services!!! Thank you!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | WLAS [Please Read] |
Dear Listers,
I sat down at the 'ol computer tonight to have a look at a few of the nice comments
List Members have been including along with their Contributions this year.
I was amazed at how many I found and even more amazed at some of the very nice
things Listers have been saying about the Lists and how valuable the they
are to them.
I've included quite a few of these nice comments below. Please read over some
of this great Lister feedback. No doubt you will find that you agree with at
least one or two of those comments - maybe all of them! If you find that do,
won't you please make a Contribution to support these Lists today!! Its fast
and easy with the Matronics List Contribution Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Don't forget that I've now fully implemented the new *List Fund Raiser Squelch*
feature that will automatically intercept any future iterations of my "Please
Contribute" messages -- that is, *once you've made YOUR Contribution*! How cool
is that? (Make sure the email address you enter along with your Contribution
matches exactly your subscribed List email address. An exact match is how
it works.)
Thank you for your generous Contributions this year and for all the wonderful comments!!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
================= What Listers Are Saying (WLAS) ================
Absolutely the best deal on the Internet!!
-Owen B
I love The Matronics...
-Robeto B
My wife has her soaps & I've got my lists!
-Hal B
These lists are, indeed, the lifeline of our hobby.
-Bob R
The best source of information for my a/c.
-Tony C
The Zenith list is the first thing I read in the morning.
-Herbert H
You do more good than you can imagine. I wish I'd known
about you while I was building my Kitfox, but you are
still an after-the-fact resource.
-Ben B
..an excellent site.
-Ashley M
The "List" has been the ultimate help for my Zenith
CH 701 project!!
-Brian U
I appreciate the list being here for me.
-Geoff H
..a great service.
-William C
The List continues to be an interesting and useful facility.
-David M
Your list is a constant goad to keep me working on my project.
-Thomas S
..a great service.
-Robert W
The Pietenpol list is a great resource.
-Benjamin W
The Yak-list is Awesome!
-James S
..great service.
-Robert S
The features you have implemented recently have you poised
to knock out yahoo groups...
-Danny D
I like how your forum looks/works and the list service...
-Ken E
..great service.
-David P
Very useful web site.
-Wayne E
..a very valuable service.
-Chris D
Great sites...
-Randall R
I used to look at [that other] site also but it's gotten so
cluttered with advertising that I've stopped looking at it.
-Wayne E
Without your services, the build would be a grope in the dark...
-Fergus K
The information and help I've received greatly outweighs the
donation...
-Lee P
..great service!
-Christopher D
I really don't think I could be building my plane without the
wisdom I find on this list.
-William G
It really makes building a pleasure.
-James P
..great service.
-Doug W
I'm getting near the end of my build (Europa tri XS) don't
think I could have done it with out the help of the forum.
-Stanislaus S
Marvelous service. Couldn't have done it without you.
-Jim G
Love the list, this is a wonderful way to help others...
-Michael S
..good service.
-Derek L
The list is responsible for helping me complete this project
and educating me in the process.
-Jeff D
Definitely worth the donation.
-Ron L
..great service to the aviation community.
-Tony P
I have been flying my plane for 5 years (RV-6) but I still
get valuable information from this service.
-Don N
A very helpful site.
-Roland S
It's a great community to be part of.
-David L
Great sites.
-John C
A great place to find and share not only information but to
meet people across the country and make lasting relationships.
-Uncle Craig
Great facility.
-Peter H
Its a great source of information!
-Michael W
Great improvements to the List...
-Edward A
Great service!!!
-Rich D
..great resource!
-William C
..excellent lists!
-Michael S
Couldn't have built my RV4 without the list.
-Warren M
..a great service...
-James N
I would not have missed [the list] for anything during the
building of my Europa.
-Svein J
..another great year.
-Robert D
..this [is an] essential builder's resource.
-David A
..excellent service.
-Gregory B
I've learned a huge amount of "stuff" over the past year
and look forward to it every day!
-Smith M
..a great communication tool...
-Jon M
Finished building 5 years ago, but still are lurking on
your great list!
-Lothar K
..a valuable service. At 11:00 pm Matronics is the goto
place for my RV questions.
-Mike D
================= What Listers Are Saying (WLAS) ================
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone
that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its sort
of my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their
appreciation for the Lists.
Won't you take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors
(LOC)? As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems
at least - if not a whole lot more - valuable as a
building/flying/recreating/entertainment tool as your typical magazine subscription!
Please take minute and assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is
fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by popping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps
these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment
about how the Lists have helped you!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
If you look forward to checking your List email everyday (and a lot of you have
written to say that you do!), then you're probably getting at least 0 or 0 worth
of Entertainment from the Lists each year. You'd pay twice that for a subscription
to some lame magazine or even a dinner out. Isn't the List worth at
least that much to you? Wouldn't it be great if you could pay that same amount
and get a well-managed media source free of advertising, SPAM, and viruses?
Come to think of it, you do...
Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support YOUR
Lists?
Contribution Page:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Again, I want to say THANK YOU to everyone that has made a Contribution thus far
during this year's List Fund Raiser!! These Lists are made possible exclusively
through YOUR generosity!!
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Why? [Please Read] |
Dear Listers,
Each year I like to explain why I have a Fund Raiser and also take the opportunity
to express why I think the List Services here provide a superior experience
over the commercial equivalents.
I use the List Fund Raiser each year to offset the costs involved with running
a high performance email list site such as this one. With the annual support
from the List members through the PBS-like Fund Raiser, I have found I can run
the entire site without having to inflect any of the members with those annoying
banner ads flashing up all the time trying to sell little-blue-pills or other
garbage nobody wants or needs. From the comments I've received over the years
regarding the Lists, the great majority of the members really appreciate
the non-commercialism of my List systems and don't mind my 'go-team-go' banter
once a year during November to encourage members to support the Lists.
I believe that the Lists services that I provide here offer many benefits over
the commercial equivalents in a number of ways. The first feature I believe to
be significant is that you cannot receive a computer v*rus from any of these
Lists directly. Each incoming message is filtered and dangerous attachments
stripped off prior to posting. I also provide a Photo and File Share feature
that allows members to share files and bitmaps with other members and everyone
can be assured that these files will be prescanned for any sort of v*rus before
they are posted. Safe and simple.
Another very important feature of this system in my opinion is the extensive List
Archives that are available for download, browsing, and searching. The Archives
go all the way back to the very beginning of each List and with the very
fast Search Engine, the huge size of some of the Archives is a non-issue in quickly
finding the data you're looking for.
And added just this year is the new Email List Forum that allows members who prefer
the Web BBS-style of List interaction. The beauty of the new List Forums
is that they contain the exact same content that is distributed via email. Messages
posted via email are cross-posted to the respective Forum and vice versa.
The Forums also allow for another convenient method of sharing pictures and
other files. Additionally added this year is the new List Wiki that allows
members to build their own "Online List Encyclopedia" of sorts, documenting various
aspects of their project for all to share.
I've been running email Lists and services under the matronics.com domain since
about 1989 starting with RV-List and 30 guys I knew and who where also building
RVs. It has grown into nearly 70 different aviation-related Email Lists and
an associated web site that receives over 23,000,000 hits each year!! Additionally,
the List Email system forwarded well over 87,000 postings last year,
accounting for an unbelievable 39,000,000 (yes, that's 39 MILLION) email messages
delivered to Matronics List subscribers! I think there's a lot of value in
supporting a service that has gone the long haul and is still providing and
improving a high quality service all _without any advertising budget_!
I have to admit running these Lists is a labor of love and I hope it shows in the
quality of the experience that you receive when you get a List Email Message,
Search the Archives, use the List Browser, or surf the Forums and Wiki sites.
The Lists will be here for a long time to come. If you just want to lurk
a while for free, that's great and I encourage you to do so. If you use, appreciate,
and receive value from these Lists, then please support them during the
Annual List Fund Raiser!
List Contribution Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists... |
Dear Listers,
Just a reminder that November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution
today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these great
List services!! Pick up a really nice free gift with your qualifying Contribution
too!
The Contribution Site is fast and easy:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | More Great List Comments - Please Make A Contribution! |
Dear Listers,
There's a little less than one week left for this year's List Fund Raiser. I thought
it would a great time to share a few more of the great comments I've been
receiving from Contributors regarding what the Lists mean to them. There are
some particularly poignant ones in this batch and I encourage you to have a
look at some of them.
Don't forget that once you make your Contribution, the Contribution Squelch kicks
in and you won't receive any future messages from me regarding the Fund Raiser
this year! This holds true for the Realtime and Digest distributions and
now also the HTML and TXT links included with the Digest! (Note that for technical
reasons, if someone replies to one of my contribution messages, the Squelch
will _not_ be activated, and you will still receive it. Contribution messages
will also still be found on the Forums site and the List Browse).
Please make your Contribution today to support these List services! Pick up a
great Gift too!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
============================= WLAS #2 ============================
Tackling my project without the List would be like
building on a deserted island. The List has made me
part of a learning (and laughing) community. -Larry W
Thank you for providing such a fantastic resource for us
Kolbers. I'm very happy to contribute towards keeping such a
wonderful resource available. -Geoff T
..you do a great service for the flying community by
providing this service. -John L
..solidly administered. -James C
A great source of information. -Ralph S
The Lists have likely saved a numbers of lives... -James F
..exceptional user service. -Larry W
Better than a magazine! -Aaron G
Thanks to your List I will be able to finish and fly
my project. Without the help of the great people on
your List I doubt it would have happened. -Ed G
I learn something on a too regular basis thanks to
these lists! -Ralph C
..valuable service. -John F
..a well administered service. -Stewart C
Great forum! -Ronald C
A great service! -Andy H
Been reading the lists since my first RV in 1999. Good
work and as necessary to me as a rivet. -Albert G
The lists are a great help. -Gary S
This resource has been critical to my building success
so far. -Timothy F
Great system and support! -Richard P
Very helpful in the building my CH 701. -Ralph S
Another year of entertainment and pleasure! -Larry B
A great resource for all of us. -Larry W
Another year of great service! Once again, the
information is worth more than I can ever contribute.
Thank you also for the "community" that the List fosters.
I cannot tell you the number of times that seeing an
friend's name come up has caused so many awesome memories
to come flooding back - along with the eager desire to
gather with these great guys again. I love hearing the
beginner's enthusiasm, the builder's progress, and the
flyer's success... -Robert B
Our list has great info and I love reading the
"Flame Posts! " -Stephen M
Great service! -James B
Excellent source of information. -David P
You provide a very valuable service to the aviation
community. -David H
The RV related lists have been a tremendous help in the
construction of my RV-7... -Norman R
Awesome list!! -John E
Great bunch of guys and very knowledgeable! -Herbert G
Thank you for making it so easy to stay in touch
with my fellow RV-10 builders. -David J
I love the list and have been a reader for a long
time. -James V
Continues to be a great service! -George A
Awesome List server. -Deke M
Many of us would never finish our airplanes without
[the List]. With it, I'm getting close! -Ronald C
An excellent source of both information and
inspiration! -William R
Forums and format are easy to use. -Jack B
Great help with my kit building. -Ralph H
Super service. -Richard N
Still loving it. -Jared S
You have a fantastic web! -Harvey R
..a great service. -James M
Glad you are there... -David A
I get some great information on your list. -John P
Fantastic service. Couldn't have made it as far
as I have without it. -Stephen T
A great learning experience with my RV-6A. -Ron B
Great resources! -Jason H
Well done. Very valuable. -Jeffrey D
Great resource for the experimental aircraft
community. -Chris H
This List has been one of the most helpful tools in
building my RV-10, since I build alone, and do not
have any help readily available. Without the List,
I could not have embarked on building my RV-10. -Jim H
You run a great list there. -James H
Really like the Kolb List. -Don W
============================= WLAS #2 ============================
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | List of Contributors Coming Soon - Make Sure You're Listed! |
Dear Listers,
The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! On December 1st I post
a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists.
Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their
appreciation for the Lists.
As a number of people have pointed out in their Contribution comments, the List
seems at least as valuable of a building/flying/recreating tool as a typical
your magazine subscription! And how interactive is a magazine, after all? :-)
Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists
is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by droping a personal check in the mail to:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
USA
(Please include your email address on the check!)
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that
keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment
about how the Lists have helped you!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Who is "Matt Dralle" & What Are "The Lists"? [Please Read] |
Dear Listers,
Who is Matt Dralle and what exactly are these Lists? Well, I've been working in
the information technology industry for over 20 years primarily in computer
networking design and implementation. I have also done extensive work in web
development and CGI design during this period.
I started the Matronics Email Lists back in 1990 with about 30 fellow RV builders
from around the world. Since that time, I have added 63 other kinds of aircraft
related Lists to the line up and numerous other List related services such
as the Forums, Wiki, Archives and Search Engine just to name a few.
For flexibility and reliability, I have chosen to run all of my own servers here
locally. Other List-related systems include a 1 Gigabit, fully switched network
infrastructure, a commercial-grade Netscreen firewall, a Barracuda spam filter,
a local T1 Internet router, and a commercial-grade business T1 Internet
connection with full static addressing.
The computer servers found here include a brand new, quad-processor Xeon Linux
server for List web services, a dual-processor Xeon Linux system dedicated to
the email processing List functions, and another P4 Linux system serving as a
remote storage disk farm for the archives, databases, and for an on-line hard
drive-based backup system with 3.2 Terra Bytes of storage, soon to be upgraded
to over 6 Terra Bytes! This entire system is protected by three large, commercial-grade
uninterrupted power supply (UPS) systems that assure the Lists are
available even during a local power outage! Speaking of power, imagine how much
electricity it takes to run all of these systems. One month this Summer,
I had a staggering $1368 bill for electricity alone!
I recently upgraded all of the computer racking infrastructure including new power
feeds and dedicated air conditioning for the room that serves as the Computer
Center for the Matronics Email Lists. This year I added another rack to house
the new MONSTER quad-processor web system that didn't quite fit into the
first rack! Here's a composite photo of the List Computer Center before the addition
of the second rack:
http://www.matronics.com/MattDralle-ListComputerCenter.jpg
As you can see, I take running these Lists very seriously and I am dedicated to
providing an always-on, 24x7x365 experience for each and every Lister.
But building and running this system isn't cheap. As I've stated before, I don't
support any of these systems with commercial advertising on the Lists. It
is supported 100% through List member Contributions! That means you... and you...
and YOU!
To that end, I hold a List Fund Raiser each November and ask that members make
a small Contribution to support the continued operation and upgrade of this ever-expanding
system. Its solely YOUR Contributions that keeps it running!
Please make a Contribution today to support these Lists!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
USA
(Please include your email address on the check!)
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Last "Official" Day Of The List Fund Raiser! |
Dear Listers,
Well, its November 30th and that means three things...
1) Today I am now officially 43 years old... (arg...)
2) It marks that last "official" day of the List Fund Raiser!
3) Its the last day I will be bugging everyone for a whole year! :-)
If you use the Lists and enjoy the content and the no-advertising, no-spam, and
no-censorship way in which they're run, please make a Contribution today to support
their continued operation and upkeep. Your $20 or $30 goes a long way
to further the List operation and keep the bills paid.
I will be posting the List of Contributors next week, so make sure your name is
on it! :-)
Thank you to everyone that has made a Contribution so far this year! It is greatly
appreciated.
List Contributions: http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Matronics Fund Raiser - 2006 List of Contributors |
Dear Listers,
I would like to thank everyone that made a Contribution in support of the Lists
this year! It was really nice to hear all great comments people had regarding
the Lists! As I have said many times before, running these Lists is a labor
of love. Your generosity during the List Fund Raiser only underscores the great
sentiments people have made regarding the Lists.
If you haven't yet made a Contribution in support of this year's Fund Raiser please
feel free to do so. The nice List gifts will be available on the site for
just a little while longer, so hurry and make your Contribution and get your
great gift. Once again, the URL for the Contribution web site is:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
I would like to thank Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore ( http://www.buildersbooks.com ), Paul Besing of Aeroware Enterprises ( http://www.kitlog.com ), Jon Croke of Homebuilt HELP ( http://www.homebuilthelp.com ) and Bob Nuckolls of AeroElectric ( http://www.aeroelectric.com ) for their extremely generous support during this year's Fund Raiser through the contribution of merchandise. These are great guys that support the aviation industry and I encourage each and every Lister to have a look at their products. Thank you Andy, Paul, Jon and Bob!! Your support is very much appreciated!
And finally, below you will find a web link to the 2006 List of Contributors current
as of 12/7/06! Have a look at this list of names as these are the people
that make all of these List services possible! I can't thank each of you enough
for your support and great feedback during this year's Fund Raiser!
THANK YOU!
http://www.matronics.com/loc/2006.html
I will be shipping out all of the gifts in the next few weeks and hope to have
everything out by the end of the month. In most cases, gifts will be shipped
via US Postal Service. Kitlog Pro serial numbers should go out via email this
weekend.
Once again, thank you for making this year's List Fund Raiser successful!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Barracuda Spam Firewall <postmaster(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | **Message you sent blocked by our bulk email filter** |
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Barracuda Spam Firewall <postmaster(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | **Message you sent blocked by our bulk email filter** |
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | BillJansen(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: **Message you sent blocked by our bulk email filter** |
What does this mean?
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | BillJansen(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: **Message you sent blocked by our bulk email filter** |
What does this mean?
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Re: **Message you sent blocked by our bulk email filter** |
At 12:05 PM 2/10/2007 Saturday, you wrote:
>What does this mean?
Ignore this. I was working on the spam filters for the Lists this morning, and
a couple of spams sneaked through.
Sorry for the confusion.
Matt
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | BillJansen(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: **Message you sent blocked by our bulk email filter** |
Roger that.
In a message dated 2/10/2007 3:15:02 P.M. Central Standard Time,
dralle(at)matronics.com writes:
--> L39-List message posted by: Matt Dralle
At 12:05 PM 2/10/2007 Saturday, you wrote:
>What does this mean?
Ignore this. I was working on the spam filters for the Lists this morning,
and a couple of spams sneaked through.
Sorry for the confusion.
Matt
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | New Realtime Spell Checker Added To Matronics Forums! |
Dear Listers,
Today 9/8/2007 I have added a new real-time spell checker function to all of the
BBS Forums at Matronics. When you reply or create a new message on the Forums,
you will notice that misspelled words will be high-lighted in yellow. If
you left-click on the word, you will be prompted with a drop-down list of suggested
spellings.
http://forums.matronics.com
Enjoy!
Matt Dralle
Matornics Email List and Forum Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | November is Matronics Email List Fund Raiser Month! |
Dear Listers,
You've probably noticed that there are no banner ads or pop-up windows or spam
from any of the List and Forum services at Matronics. These include, for example:
The Email List Postings - http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse
The Email List Forum Site - http://forums.matronics.com
The List Wiki - http://wiki.matronics.com
The List Search Engine - http://www.matronics.com/search
This is because I have always enjoyed a List experience that was completely about
the sport we enjoy - airplanes - and not about advertising!
But running a high performance, highly available service like this isn't free and
a fair amount of money in terms of computer upgrades, business-class Internet
connectivity, and electricity. Consequently, many similar sites turn to advertising
to support these costs. Advertising that you have to look at each and
every time you read an email message or browse the their web site.
Rather than subject my List community to another constant commercial bombardment,
I have chosen to hold a PBS-like fund raiser each year in November to support
the continued operation and upgrade of the List services. It's solely through
the Contributions of List members that the Lists and Forums continue to be
possible!
During the month, I will be sending out a Fund Raiser reminder message every few
days and I ask for your patience and understanding during the month throughout
these regular messages. Think of them as PBS' Pledge Breaks... :-)
To minimize the impact of the Fund Raiser on the List community, I implemented
a new feature late last year specifically related to making Contributions. If
you are an Email List subscriber, once you make a Contribution using the online
web site, you will no longer receive the email from me regarding the Fund Raiser!
There are a couple of exceptions to this, however. If someone replies
to a Contribution message I've sent, you might receive that. Additionally, the
messages will always be posted to the Forums site. To a first order, however,
once you make a Contribution, you won't get my email messages about the Fund
Raiser for the rest of the month. For Contributions by check, the squelch
will take effect once the check is received.
There is a whole new line up of really great Contribution gifts this year! When
you make a qualifying Contribution, you can select one of the many free gifts
that are available during the Fund Raiser. These gifts are provided through
the generous support of a number of our industry's leading supporters including:
Bob Nuckolls - AeroElectric - http://www.aeroelectric.com
Andy Gold - Builder's Bookstore - http://www.buildersbooks.com
Jon Croke - HomebuiltHELP - http://www.homebuilthelp.com
Please visit these guy's respective sites, as they have some great products to
offer and are generously supporting the Matronics List Fund Raiser.
You can make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods this
year including using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. From the Contribution
site, you can select any one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying
Contribution amount. The Contribution page is pretty loooonnnnng this year
in order to list great selection of great gifts available so be sure to scroll
all the way to the bottom of the web page to see everything that's available!
Please make a List Support Contribution:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous support! Your Contributions
truely keep this operation afloat!
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Forum Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | List Fund Raiser |
Dear Listers,
Just a reminder that November is the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser month. I've
got a bunch of really nice incentive gifts this year. There's really something
for everyone!
Please make a Contribution today:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | What Listers Are Saying... |
November is Matronics List Fund Raiser month and a number people been sending some
really nice comments regarding the Lists. I thought I'd share a few below.
The Lists are completely supported by your Contributions. All of the bills for
new hardware, connectivity, and electricity are paid by the generous support
of the List members.
Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation of the List
and Forums:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
================= What Listers Are Saying ================
Flying and building is much safer with this List!!
Robert D.
Thanks for having and maintaining such a great resource to
all of us builders and flyers.
Wayne E.
Love the fact that you haven't caved to advertising!
Peter J.
..a great resource!!
Robert C.
Not building at the moment, but the Lists keeps me right
up to date with what's going on.
Chris D.
The web forum has been running great.
James O.
I enjoy this [List] site very much...
Paul C.
This is a great list!
Albert G.
..a valuable resource!
Roger C.
I am deployed to Pakistan right now, and being able
to go on-line and keep up with the aircraft discussions
helps keep the aircraft building dream alive in my mind!
Gregory C.
..fantastic service!
Roger M.
..clearly a work of passion!
Mike C.
It is a great service to us!
Kevin C.
The list is a wonderful resource...
Ralph O.
[The Lists] have been the single greatest resource in
building my RV-9A and now my RV-10.
Albert G.
..a valuable and always improving service.
Dick S.
STILL THE BEST BARGAIN AROUND!!
Owen B.
..such a valuable tool.
Jon M.
[The Lists] have been an invaluable resource for me
as a Zenith homebuilder.
David G.
The opportunity to meet (on line at least) many other
interesting builders and to make some new friends is
truly appreciated.
Albert G.
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | If You Got This Email, You Haven't Made A Contribution Yet! |
:-)
Dear Listers,
If you received this particular Matronics List Email message, its because you haven't
yet made a Contribution to support your Lists! Implemented for the first
time last year, the Matronics system selectively sends out the Contribution
messages to those that forgot to whip out the 'ol credit card this year to support
the continued operation and upgrade of the Matronics Email Lists! Don't
you wish PBS worked that way? :-)
You heard that right. Once you make your Contribution, these support requests
messages during November will suddenly stop coming to your personal email inbox!
I wanted to implement something like this for a number of years, but it was
always such a daunting task to modify the back-end List processing code, that
I just kept putting it off. Finally last year, I just decided to bite the bullet
and put the code-pounding time it to make it work. A few days later, bam!
A working system!
I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support
the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware
and software that are required to run a List Site like this. It also goes to
pay for the commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the rather huge electric
bill to keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered
up. I run ALL of the Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which
allows me to control and monitor every aspect of the system for the utmost in
reliably and performance.
Your personal Contribution matters because when combined with other Listers such
as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up and running. I accept exactly
ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand
the pop-up ads and all other commercialism that is so prevalent on the Internet
these days and I particularly don't want to have it on my Email List site.
If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email
Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
[Please note the following regarding the selective posting system. There are certain
circumstances where you might still see a Contribution related message.
These situations include if someone replies to one of the messages, or when
using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum.
Since most of these are anonymous public access methods, there is no simple way
to filter them.]
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Post Mortem - Matronics List Pummeled By Spam... |
Dear Listers,
Over a 3-day period, Thursday 11/8 though Saturday 11/10, the Matronics Lists were
pummeled with over 450,000 spam emails causing posting delays and a few duplicate
messages. Yeah, I really said nearly half a million spams! The good
news is that I don't believe a single one of them actually made it to the Lists
thanks to the aggressive List filtering code and the Barracuda spam filter.
The bad news was that it caused quite a back log of email messages starting Friday
and continuing until late Saturday when I noticed that delivery seemed a bit
sluggish. By about 11pm on Saturday night, I had managed to get the backlog
cleared out of the spam filter by temporarily adjusting some of the filtering.
A check of the queues this morning, and everything looks like its working great
and there are no incoming filtering delays and spam levels appear to be back
to "normal".
There were a number of people asking what was going on, so I thought that I'd send
out a follow up post mortem on the event...
November is the annual List Fund Raiser. Your contribution directly enables me
to buy systems like the Barracuda spam filter that keep the List free of that
garbage. Please make a contribution to support your Lists!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | List of Contributors |
Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone
that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its sort of
my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Won't you take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors
(LOC)? As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems
at least - if not a whole lot more - valuable as a building/flying/recreating/entertainment
tool as your typical magazine subscription!
Please take minute and assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is
fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by popping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps
these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about
how the Lists have helped you!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Value of the List... |
If you look forward to checking your List email everyday (and a lot of you have
written to say that you do!), then you're probably getting at least 0 or 0 worth
of Entertainment from the Lists each year. You'd pay twice that for a subscription
to some lame magazine or even a dinner out. Isn't the List worth at least
that much to you? Wouldn't it be great if you could pay that amount and get
a well-managed media source free of advertising, SPAM, and viruses? Come to
think of it, you do... :-)
Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support the
Lists?
Contribution Page:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Again, I want to say THANK YOU to everyone that has made a Contribution thus far
during this year's List Fund Raiser!! These Lists are made possible exclusively
through YOUR generosity!!
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists... |
Just a reminder that November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution
today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these great
List services!! And pick up a really nice free gift with your qualifying Contribution
too!
The Contribution Site is fast and easy:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | ThomasS745(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: L39-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 11/17/07 |
Please remove me from your e-mail list.
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [Please Read] Why I Have A Fund Raiser... |
Dear Listers,
Each year I like to explain why I have a Fund Raiser and also take the opportunity
to express why I think the List Services here provide a superior experience
over the commercial equivalents.
I use the List Fund Raiser each year to offset the costs involved with running
a high performance email list site such as this one. With the annual support from
the List members through the PBS-like Fund Raiser, I have found I can run
the entire site without having to inflect any of the members with those annoying
banner ads flashing up all the time trying to sell little-blue-pills or other
garbage nobody wants or needs. From the comments I've received over the years
regarding the Lists, the great majority of the members really appreciate the
non-commercialism of my List systems and don't mind my 'go-team-go' banter once
a year during November to encourage members to support the Lists.
I believe that the Lists services that I provide here offer many benefits over
the commercial equivalents in a number of ways. The first feature I believe to
be significant is that you cannot receive a computer v*rus from any of these
Lists directly. Each incoming message is filtered and dangerous attachments stripped
off prior to posting. I also provide a Photo and File Share feature that
allows members to share files and bitmaps with other members and everyone can
be assured that these files will be prescanned for any sort of v*rus before
they are posted. More recently, I have enabled limited posting of a number of
file formats including pictures and PDFs.
Another very important feature of this system in my opinion is the extensive List
Archives that are available for download, browsing, and searching. The Archives
go all the way back to the very beginning of each List and with the very
fast Search Engine, the huge size of some of the Archives is a non-issue in quickly
finding the data you're looking for.
And added just a couple of years ago is the new Email List Forum that allows members who prefer the Web BBS-style of List interaction. The beauty of the new List Forums is that they contain the exact same content that is distributed via email. Messages posted via email are cross-posted to the respective Forum and vice versa. The Forums also allow for another convenient method of sharing pictures and other files (http://forums.matronics.com ). Additionally, added recently is the List Wiki that allows members to build their own "Online List Encyclopedia" of sorts, documenting various aspects of their project for all to share ( http://wiki.matronics.com ).
I've been running email Lists and services under the matronics.com domain since
about 1989 starting with RV-List and 30 guys I knew and who where also building
RVs. It has grown into nearly 70 different aviation-related Email Lists and
an associated web site that receives over 34,000,000 hits each year!! Additionally,
the List Email system forwarded well over 77,000 postings last year, accounting
for an unbelievable 33,000,000 (yes, that's 33 MILLION) email messages
delivered to Matronics List subscribers! I think there's a lot of value in supporting
a service that has gone the long haul and is still providing and improving
a high quality service all _without any advertising budget_!
I have to admit running these Lists is a labor of love and I hope it shows in the
quality of the experience that you receive when you get a List Email Message,
Search the Archives, use the List Browser, or surf the Forums and Wiki sites.
The Lists will be here for a long time to come. If you just want to lurk a
while for free, that's great and I encourage you to do so. If you use, appreciate,
and receive value from these Lists, then please support them during the Annual
List Fund Raiser!
List Contribution Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | What Are You Thankful For...? |
Dear Listers,
Here in the United States, Thursday is our National day of Thanksgiving. Many
of us will be traveling to be with our families and friends to share in generous
feasts of plenty and giving thanks for many blessings that have been bestowed
upon us.
Many Listers have expressed over the last couple of weeks how thankful they are
for the Email Lists and Forums here on the Matronics servers and for all of the
assistance and comradery they have experienced being a part of the Lists.
One of my favorite kind of comments is when write to me and says something like,
"Its the first thing I do in the morning while I'm having my morning coffee!".
That's a wonderful tribute to the purpose and function of these Lists. Its
always great to hear I'm not the only one that jumps out of bed each morning
to check my List email!!
Won't you take a minute today and show your appreciation for these Lists and for
their continued operation and upgrade?
The List Contribution Site is:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you in advance for your kind consideration,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Dear Listers,
Below are a few more of the nice comments Listers have been making along with their
Contributions in support of the Lists this year. Please make your Contribution
today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these services.
Remember, there is _no advertising budget_ to keep these Lists funded. It is
solely through your generosity that they continue.
Please make a Contribution:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
------------------------------What Listers Are Saying------------------------------
The list has been invaluable in the building of my Zenith CH701.
George R
Thanks for keeping the lists a non-commercial venue for us
to gather and share knowledge.
Neal G
What a fantastic resource!
Ralph C
It's a pretty cheep troubleshooting tool with and unlimited
resource of personal knowledge.
Bruce G
A full house of Info & Ideas...
Ellery B
I really enjoy the Piet list.
Steven D
The Lists are an indispensable resource for those of us
building OBAM aircraft.
Bret S
..a great service.
Frank D
..all in all it is a great resource if you ask specific
questions.
Richard S
Your list has really helped me in my first build.
Michael W
Always a pleasure to support this great resource...
Richard W
I enjoy the lists very much, they are very beneficial.
Bob L
Great place to chat with other builders and Flyers.
Ellery B
Your lists are a great service to builders and owners!
Richard D
A real good place for someone that is starting to get
interested into flying without investing any money at
first.
Ellery B
The list has been an great help to my building process.
David B
I'm close to finishing my Zenith 601 thanks to you and
the Zenith List.
Jeff D
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published Dec |
1!
Dear Listers,
The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! On December 1st I post
a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists.
Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their
appreciation for the Lists.
As a number of people have pointed out in their Contribution comments, these Lists
seems at least as valuable of a building/flying/recreating tool as a typical
your magazine subscription! And how interactive is a magazine, after all?
Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists
is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
USA
(Please include your email address on the check!)
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps
these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment
about how the Lists have helped you!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [Please Read] What are "The Lists" and Who's This Matt Dralle? |
Dear Listers,
Who is Matt Dralle and what exactly are these Lists? Well, I've been working in
the information technology industry for nearly 25 years primarily in computer
networking design and implementation. I have also done extensive work in web
development and CGI design during that time, along with some embedded system
development as well.
I started the Matronics Email Lists back in 1990 with about 30 fellow RV builders
from around the world. Since that time, I have added 63 other kinds of aircraft
related Lists to the line up and numerous other List related services such
as the Forums, Wiki, Archives and Search Engine just to name a few.
For flexibility and reliability, I have chosen to run all of my own servers here
locally. Other List-related systems include a 1 Gigabit, fully switched network
infrastructure, a commercial-grade Netscreen firewall, a Barracuda spam filter,
a local T1 Internet router, and a commercial-grade business T1 Internet
connection with full static addressing.
The computer servers found here include a quad-processor Xeon Linux server for
List web services, a dual-processor Xeon Linux system dedicated to the email processing
List functions, and another P4 Linux system serving as a remote storage
disk farm for the archives, databases, and for an on-line hard drive-based
backup system with 3.2 Terra Bytes of storage! This entire system is protected
by three large, commercial-grade uninterrupted power supply (UPS) systems that
assure the Lists are available even during a local power outage! Speaking
of power, imagine how much electricity it takes to run all of these systems. One
month last Summer, I had a staggering $1368 bill for electricity alone!
I recently upgraded all of the computer racking infrastructure including new power
feeds and dedicated air conditioning for the room that serves as the Computer
Center for the Matronics Email Lists. Last year I added another rack to
house the MONSTER quad-processor web system that didn't quite fit into the first
rack! Here's a composite photo of the List Computer Center before the addition
of the second rack:
http://www.matronics.com/MattDralle-ListComputerCenter.jpg
As you can see, I take running these Lists very seriously and I am dedicated to
providing an always-on, 24x7x365 experience for each and every Lister.
But building and running this system isn't cheap. As I've stated before, I don't
support any of these systems with commercial advertising on the Lists. It is
supported 100% through List member Contributions! That means you... and you...
and YOU!
To that end, I hold a List Fund Raiser each November and ask that members make
a small Contribution to support the continued operation and upgrade of this ever-expanding
system. Its solely YOUR Contributions that keeps it running!
Won't you please take a moment to make a Contribution to support these Lists!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
USA
(Please include your email address on the check!)
There are some great gifts available with qualifying Contribution levels too!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Wow! A Ton of Comments! |
Dear Listers,
I've been getting a ton of great comments from Listers along with their List Support
Contributions lately! I've shared a bunch more below. Please read over
some of them and see what your fellow Listers think of the Lists and Forums.
There are just a couple more days left before the official end of this year's Fund
Raiser. Please make a Contribution today to support the continued upgrade
and operation of these services.
There are still lots of awesome gifts available, so browse the extensive selection
and pickup a nice item along with your qualifying Contribution.
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you in advance for your generous support! It is very much appreciated!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
----------- What Listers Are Saying About The Lists -----------
In the big picture, you are most certainly saving lives.
The fact that you do it at a very good level of service,
quality, and simplicity is just icing on the cake. We
all owe you a debt of gratitude.
Bruce M
Can't go a single day without reading my lists. Even
when I am overseas.
Terry W
Best list ever. No comparison.
Johann J
I get the digest for the two lists I subscribe to each
morning -- they go great with my coffee! I can't tell
you how much I've learned from this great service...
Mark S
..great lists, best on the Net!
Robert S
It is very nice to enjoy a SPAM free list.
Ken L
You run a great list. Makes a builder feel like there's
lots of help out there for the asking, and it's
appreciated.
Steve T
The list is a very valuable resource.
Thomas S
You run a good list.
James G
Thanks for a great forum.
Jimmy Y
Thanks for a well-maintained list(s).
Michael M
Great job! Worth every penny!
Stephen T
Helps me learn and think about issues I didn't know I
didn't know.
Martin H
I find the list very useful...
Robert F
What you do provides me with daily contact with a passion
of my life, aviation.
Wendell M
..the list it is very valuable information.
Dwayne H
..a great service to homebuilders.
Andrew H
I have learned quite a lot from reading the Forums. I
have been reading at the forum pages and I like the way
it works.
Ron L
[The List] makes a builder feel like there's lots of
help out there for the asking, and it's appreciated.
Steve T
The list service many purposes, not the least of which is
motivation to join my fellow RVer in completing my project
and getting in the air.
John S
Thanks for running a great site. Its simplicity is its
greatness. Don't know how I would have been successful
without it.
Timothy F
..terrific service to experimental and general aviation.
James F
You have a well run operation. I am happy to support what
you do.
Mark S
A wonderful service to the GA community.
David M
Great list - let's keep it ad-free!
Ben C
They have been of great help, learning and friendship
for all the members Worldwide. Great job of yours, a
little idea that grew really big and wonderful.
Gary G
..a thoroughly enjoyable and informative List.
John W
A GREAT LEARNING TOOL!!
Dwayne Y
This is a very well-run list and it is a valuable resource
for the Pietenpol enthusiast.
Graham H
Thanks for running this great site - helps those of
us on the east of the pond keep in touch.
Malcolm H
Thanks for the major contribution to my continuing
education program.
Oldbob S
I'm just getting started in the building process & find
Matronics to be the most valuable site.
Scott D
Without the information and encouragement from the listers
my project would have been sitting in the corner of my shop
collecting dust long ago. Now it's almost ready for final
assemble and covering.
Edward G
Great List. No Ads, just RV-10 builders. Keep it
going.
Rick E
Wonderful source of info for building & flying...
Graham H
The Yak-list is a superb single source to get answers to
questions on the operation of these aircraft.
Craig W
This list is valuable to everyone and your hard work is
very much appreciated.
Jim S
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just Two Days Left... |
Dear Listers,
There are just a couple days left for this year's List Fund Raiser. Over all,
participation has been good, but things have been pretty slow this week for some
reason. If you've been putting off making your Contribution until the last
minute, this is it! The last minute, that is... :-)
Please remember that there isn't any sort of commercial advertising on the Lists
and the *only* means of keeping these Lists running is through your Contributions
during this Fund Raiser.
Please make a Contribution today!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser! |
Dear Listers,
Its November 30th and that means a couple of things. Its my 44th birthday for
one, but I'm trying to forget about that... But, it also means that its that
last official day of the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser!
If you been drooling over one of the really sweet free gifts that are available
this year with a qualifying Contribution, then now is the time to jump on one!!
If you've been meaning to make a Contribution, but just keep putting it off, then
now is the time!
I will be posting the List of Contributors in a few days, so you'll probably want
to be known as a person that supported the Lists! Rather than the guy that,
er, ah, forgot (or whatever)... :-)
I want to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution so far this
year in support of our Lists. It is your generosity that keeps this operation
a float and I don't ever forget it. Hopefully everyone will feel the same.
The List Contribution page is fast and easy. Please support our habit by making
your Contribution right now:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you all in advance!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Matronics List Fund Raiser - 2007 List of Contributors |
Dear Listers,
I would like to thank everyone that made a Contribution in support of the Lists
this year! It was really nice to hear all great comments people had regarding
the Lists! As I have said many times before, running these Lists is a labor
of love. Your generosity during the List Fund Raiser underscores the great sentiments
people have made regarding the Lists.
If you haven't yet made a Contribution in support of this year's Fund Raiser please
feel free to do so. The great List Fund Raiser gifts will be available on
the Contribution site for just a little while longer, so hurry and make your
Contribution and get your great gift! Once again, the URL for the Contribution
web site is:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
I would like to thank Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore ( http://www.buildersbooks.com ), Jon Croke of Homebuilt HELP ( http://www.homebuilthelp.com ) and Bob Nuckolls of AeroElectric ( http://www.aeroelectric.com ) for their extremely generous support during this year's Fund Raiser through the contribution of discounted merchandise. These are great guys that support the aviation industry and I encourage each and every Lister to have a look at their products. Thank you Andy, Jon and Bob!! Your support is very much appreciated!
And finally, below you will find a web link to the 2007 List of Contributors current
as of 12/6/07! Have a look at this list of names as these are the people
that make all of these List services possible! I can't thank each of you enough
for your support and great feedback during this year's Fund Raiser!
THANK YOU!
http://www.matronics.com/loc/2007.html
I will be shipping out all of the gifts in the next few weeks and hope to have
everything out by the end of the month. In most cases, gifts will be shipped
via US Postal Service.
Once again, thank you for making this year's List Fund Raiser successful!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Two New Lists Added to the Matronics Lineup! |
Dear Listers,
I've added two new Email Lists to the Matronics List and Forum lineup today. These
include the Rans-List and RV12-List. Please surf over to the Matronics List
Subscription page and sign up for these new Lists if they are of interest
to you:
http://www.matronics.com/subscribe
Full support on the Forums, List Browse, Archives, etc. is available.
Rans-List:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Rans-List
RV12-List
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV12-List
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Four New Email Lists At Matronics!! |
Dear Listers,
I have added four new Lists to the Matronics line up today. These include the
following categories:
Citabria-List Citabria, Decathlon, Scout, and Champ
Zenith601-List Zenair Zodiac CH 601
Zenith640-List Zenair Zodiac CH 640
Zenith701801-List Zenair STOL CH 701 and CH 801
All services are enabled and now available including Search, Browse, Digest, Archives,
Forums, Chat, etc., etc. etc...:
Citabria:
http://www.matronics.com/navigator?citabria-list
Zenith601:
http://www.matronics.com/navigator?zenith601-list
Zenith640:
http://www.matronics.com/navigator?zenith640-list
Zenith701801:
http://www.matronics.com/navigator?zenith701801-list
To subscribe, go to the Matronics Email List Subscription Form:
http://www.matronics.com/subscribe
To check the new Lists out on the Matronics Forum go here:
http://forums.matronics.com
Enjoy the new Lists!! Don't forget me during the Fund Raiser! :-)
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | num1pilot(at)aol.com |
It is that time of year again.? The RPA is having the All Red Star Fly-In Thursday
MAY 14th to Sunday MAY 18th.? Grab a friend and come on out to have a great
time.? We typically have?several?L-29/L-39s each year, so you won't be alone.
?
If you have any questions, do not hesitate to contact me.
?
-Hartley "Postal" Postlethwaite
Air Boss
All Red Star VII
?
http://www.flyredstar.org/helios//events/index.php?com=detail&eID=18
?
Here is the blurb off the RPA?website:
ALL RED STAR VII May 14th to 18th, 2008
The Mother of all events is back! This is the largest gathering of civilian owned
ex-eastern bloc aircraft in the world! All warbirds are welcome to join are
fun, too. ARS VII promises to be the best yet. The same great flying, great food,
and great friends as you've come to expect in years past with a focus on
FAST training and mass formation practice preparing for this year's big migration
to OSH. Highlights include: Formation Challenge V, Carrier landings III, flour
bomb drop on a salvage car, ground seminars by leading experts, FAST Ground
school, aircraft judging, and Saturday Awards Banquet.
This year we are excited to have Vietnam vet, Skunkworks Test Pilot and Reno Champ
Skip Holm as our keynote speaker. Wether you burn kerosene or 100LL, this
is the place to be. Jet qualified instructors will be on hand for formation and
recurrent training, as well.
Thanks again to our sponsors that help keep our registration fees low! We still
need a few more details before we can set pricing, but if you register now we
will notify you when you can complete your registration with payment soon....
We look forward to having you at ARS VII 'A Unique Aviation Experience'.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Patrick Scofield <patrick(at)designworx.com> |
I am selling a pair of the (really hard to find) size 5 russian
speedpants on eBay: Item # 260245473889. They are in new-unissued
condition, the bladders and rubber are supple and inflate fine.
Patrick Scofield
Tel. 480-968-4125
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| From: | "yak-52(at)comcast.net" <yak-52(at)comcast.net> |
http://www.kwsalvage.com/detail.asp?ID=158-19493
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 6284#206284
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| From: | dralle(at)matronics.com |
| Subject: | Matronics Email List Fund Raiser During November! |
Dear Listers,
Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operation
and upgrade of the List services at Matronics. It's through soley through the
Contributions of List members that these Matronics Lists are possible.
You have probably noticed that there are no banner ads or pop-up windows on any of the Matronics Lists or related web sites such as the Forums site ( http://forums.matronics.com ), Wiki site ( http://wiki.matronics.com ), or other related pages such as the List Search Engine ( http://www.matronics.com/search ), List Browse ( http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse ), etc. This is because I believe in a List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely Airplanes and not about annoying advertisments.
During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every few days
reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. I ask for your patience
and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages.
The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all of the
bills associated with running these lists. Your personal Contribution counts.
Once again, this year I've got a terrific line up of free gifts to go along with
the various Contribution levels. Most all of these gifts have been provided
by some of the vary members and vendors that you'll find on Matronics Lists and
have been either donated or provided at substantially discounted rates.
This year, these generous people include Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric Connection (http://www.aeroelectric.com/), Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore (http://www.buildersbooks.com/), and Jon Croke of HomebuiltHELP (http://www.homebuilthelp.com/).
These are extremely generous guys and I encourage you to visit their respective
web sites. Each one offers a unique and very useful aviation-related product
line. I would like publicly to thank Bob, Andy, and Jon for their generous support
of the Lists again this year!!
You can make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods this
year including using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. All three methods
afford you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with
a qualifying Contribution amount!!
To make your Contribution, please visit the secure site below:
https://www.matronics.com/contribution
I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral
support over the years. I know it sounds a little cliche, but you guys really
do feel like family.
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Contribution Site URL Clarification |
Dear Listers,
In my List Fund Raiser kickoff email last night, I mistyped the URL for the *initial*
Contribution web site and couple of people reported receiving SSL certificate
errors. The actual payment entry pages where were correct, however, so
there were no certificate issues that impacted payment data. I'm sorry for the
confusion.
Please use the following URL to start your List Contribution:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists... |
Dear Listers,
Just a reminder that November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution
today to support the continued operation and upgrade of
these great List services!! Pick up a really nice free gift with your qualifying
Contribution too!
The Contribution Site is fast and easy:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | List Fund Raiser |
A couple of years ago I implemented an automatic "squelch button" of sorts for
the Fund Raiser messages. Here's how it works... As soon as a List member makes
a
Contribution through the Matronics Fund Raiser web site, he or she will instantly
cease to receive these Fund Raiser messages for the rest of the month! Its
just that simple. Don't you wish PBS worked that way! :-)
I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support
the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware
and
software that are required to run a List Site like this. It also goes to pay for
the commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the huge electric bill
to
keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered on. I run all of
the Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which allows me to
control and monitor every aspect of the system for the utmost in reliably and performance.
Your personal Contribution matters because, when combined with other Listers such
as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up and running. I accept
exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand
the pop-up ads and all other commercials that are so prevalent on the Internet
these days and I particularly don't want to have it on my Email List sites.
If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email
Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
[Note that there are certain circumstances where you might still see a Contribution
related message. For example, if someone replies to one of the messages,
when using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum.
The system keys on the given email address and since most of these are
anonymous public access methods, there is no simple way to filter them.]
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Dear Listers,
Just a quick reminder that November is the annual List Fund Raiser. The Matronics
Lists are 100% member supported and all of the operational costs are provided
for my your Contributions during this time of the year.
Your personal Contribution makes a difference and keeps all of the Matronics Email
Lists and Forums completely ad-free.
Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you in advance!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Fund Raiser List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution |
Today!
Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone
that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its sort of
my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Won't you take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors
(LOC)? As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems
at least - if not a whole lot more - valuable as a building/flying/recreating/entertainment
tool as your typical magazine subscription!
Please take minute and assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is
fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps
these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about
how the Lists have helped you!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists |
Dear Listers,
There is no advertising income to support the Matronics Email Lists and Forums.
The operation is supported 100% by your personal Contributions during the November
Fund Raiser.
Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade
of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution
too!
You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or, you can send a personal check to the following address:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore, CA 94551-0347
Thank you in advance for your generous support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Fund Raiser Lagging Last Year By Over 30%... |
As of the 13th, the Fund Raiser is currently about 30% behind last year in terms
of the number of Contributions. Yet, oddly the number of messages posted per
day is up by 10 to 20% on the average. It costs real money to run these Lists
and they are supported 100% though your Contributions during the Fund Raiser.
Won't you please take a minute right now to make your Contribution to keep
these Lists up and running?
Contribution Page:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | What's My Contribution Used For? |
Dear Listers,
Some have asked, "What's my Contribution used for?" and that's a good question.
Here are just a few examples of what your direct List support enables. It provides
for the very expensive, commercial-grade T1 Internet connection used on
the List insuring maximum performance and minimal contention when accessing
List services. It pays for the regular system hardware and software upgrades
enabling the highest performance possible for services such as the Archive Search
Engine, List Browser, and Forums. It pays for 19+ years worth of online archive
data available for instant random search and access. And, it offsets the
many hours spent writing, developing, and maintaining the custom applications
that power this List Service such as the List Browse, Search Engine, Forums,
Wiki and PhotoShare.
But most importantly, your List Contribution enables a forum where you and your
peers can communicate freely in an environment that is free from moderation,
censorship, advertising, commercialism, SPAM, and computer viruses. How many
places on the Internet can you make all those statements these days?
It is YOUR CONTRIBUTION that directly enables these many aspects of these valuable
List services. Please support it today with your List Contribution. Its
one of the best investments you can make in your Sport...
List Contribution Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | What Members Are Saying... |
Dear Listers,
November is the Annual Matronics List Fund Raiser. The Lists are supported solely
through your generous Contributions during this time. Please make your Contribution
today and pick up a really nice free gift at this same time:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Listers have been including some really nice comments regarding what the Lists
mean to them along with their Contributions this year. I've included a few of
them below. Please read them over and see if some perhaps echo your feelings
as well.
Thank you for your support this year!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
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Best bargain in the entire industry!!
-Owen B
Every year your lists are better, sure #1 in e-mail list in the world.
-Gary G
Thank you for an awesome site!
-Ashley M
Your lists are important to me and well worth paying for.
-Calvin A
Thank you for providing such and informative and ad free environment
to learn by.
-Myron H
As always, a valuable and extremely useful resource.
Stephen T
As always, a great service.
-Reade G
Very much appreciate this site and the communications it has
enabled between builders.
-Larry M
This service is worth every penny.
-Robert S
Great site! Thanks a ton for its functionality!
-Peter B
The RV-10 list feels like my community.
-Dave S
The lists are fantastic, a great source!
-Jimmy Y
I've learned a lot from the List.
-Gabriel F
A wonderful resource.
-Gerald G
Well done.
-Richard N
Years of good service.
-William M
Valuable service.
-Keith H
The site is quite helpful.
-Jon M
Very interesting List that I read form the beginning.
-Alain L
A well managed site.
-Carl B
Great service.
-Svein Kare J
Still the most useful program on the computer.
-Fergus K
Great contribution to my project!
-Robert K
Thanks for keeping a great list.
-Dt G
The List continues to provide excellent information.
-Tony C
This is a wonderful resource that has easily saved me a bunch on
my build-time.
-Ralph C
Thank you for providing a great service. The Zenith builder's community
would be in sad shape without the Zenith-List's.
-Terrence P
I really do get pleasure out of reading the List every day.
-Bill V
Great source of information.
-Arthur V
Thanks for a great service. Very enjoyable.
-Louis B
You know we all could not do without your support!!
-James S
Great resource!
-Douglas D
Thanks for the great service.
-John B
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Behind By 21% - Advertising May Be Needed...? |
Dear Listers,
The percentage of people making a Contribution to support the Lists this year is
currently lagging behind last year by approximately 21%! I'm hoping that everyone
is just waiting until the last minute to show their support... ;-)
Please remember that it is solely your direct Contributions that keep these Lists
up and running and most importantly - AD FREE! If the members don't want to
support the Lists directly, then I will likely have to start adding advertisements
to offset the costs of running the Lists. But I *really* don't want to
have to start doing that. I really like the non-commercial atmosphere here and
I think that a lot of the members appreciate that too.
Please take a moment to make a Contribution today in support of the continued ad-free
operation of all these Lists:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
I want to send out a word of appreciation to all of the members that have already
made their generous Contribution to support the Lists! Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Dear Listers,
Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone
that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its sort
of my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Won't you take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors
(LOC)? As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems
at least - if not a whole lot more - valuable as a building/flying/recreating/entertainment
tool as your typical magazine subscription!
Please take minute and assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is
fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by popping a personal check in the mail to:
Matronics Email Lists
c/o Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps
these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about
how the Lists have helped you!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Value of the List... |
If you look forward to checking your List email everyday (and a lot of you have
written to say that you do!), then you're probably getting at least $20 or $30
worth of Entertainment from the Lists each year. You'd pay twice that for a
subscription to some lame magazine or even just a single dinner out. Isn't the
List worth at least that much to you?
Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support the
Lists?
Contribution Page:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Again, I want to say THANK YOU to everyone that has made a Contribution thus far
during this year's List Fund Raiser!! These Lists are made possible exclusively
through YOUR generosity!!
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just A Few More Days... |
Dear Listers,
There are just a few more days left in this year's List Fund Raiser. There are
some great gifts available when you make a qualifying Contribution and there's
plenty still available. Don't forget that its *your* Contribution that keeps
the computers running, the electricity turned on, and the computer room AC cooling!
If you look forward to reading your List email each day, won't you please take
a minute right now to make your personal Contribution?
Credit Card or Paypal:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Personal Check:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore, CA 94550
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just 3 Days Left - Please Make Your List Contribution Today! |
There are only three days left until the end of this year's List Fund Raiser.
Please take a minute to show your support as so many others have this year and
make sure YOUR name is on the forthcoming List of Contributors 2008!
Its quick and easy using the secure web site with a credit card or PayPal:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by sending your personal check to:
Matronics Lists c/o Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore, CA 94551-0347
(Please write your email address on the check!)
Thank you in advance for your support of these List services!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email and Forum Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | What Listers Have Been Saying |
Wow! Many of the members making a List Support Contribution this year have been
using the Comments field to leave a personal message about the Lists. Thank
you! I have included a number of them below. Please read over a few and see
if you perhaps can echo some of the same sentiments regarding the value of the
Lists to you...
There is only a couple more days left for this year's List Fund Raiser and we're
still way behind previous years. If you've been waiting until the last minute
to show your support, Now is the Time! Please make your Contribution and pick
up a great gift at the same time!
By Credit Card or Paypal:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or By Personal Check:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore, CA 94550-7227
Thank you in advance!!
Matt Dralle
Email List and Forums Administrator
Here is some of the great feedback members have been including along with their
personal Contributions this year...
Over the years, the info I have received from the RV-List has
saved me thousands of dollars, and dozens of hours of time by
helping me avoid bad purchases, pointing me at vendors with
low prices and excellent support, and providing solutions to
the typical head scratchers that you run into.
Kevin H
Valuable service. Best List(s) on the Internet!
George A
Please accept this token not as an indicator of what
this list has been worth to me this past year.
Lew G
Great information and entertainment.
Tim V
Thanks again for another great year of service. This
project would be beyond me if it were not for the list.
Moreover, the friendships I have found are worth their
weight in GOLD!
Robert B
Great support you provide to all the subscribers!
Freddie H
Read it every day.
PF B
Thanks for your excellent management of the Matronics
Lists! Your services are head and shoulders above the
rest.
James M
Without the "List", there would be no Kolb "community".
Bill T
Thanks, Matt, for a great service! I've been monitoring
and using the lists since 1999.
Richard D
Thanks for such a terrific site and for all the work and
effort you put into it.
John R
A great service year after year.
John D
..another year of fantastic service.
Jerry B
This list is a great resource.
Arden A
Great list.
James M
Lists were a great help while building HRII N561FS.
John S
Great resources for both the beginner and experienced.
George R
Good service.
Gary G
The List is an invaluable resource!
William C
AeroElectric list is a great source of info and learning!
Janice J
Thank you, Matt for being there for us making it all happen
on the List for so many years - Great JOB!
Sam S
Thank you for providing a great venue. You definitely hit
the nail on the head with your solicitation asking if
readers look forward to receiving the email digests. I
certainly do and when I move from a dreamer to a builder, I
expect the anticipation will only increase.
Joe S
Thanks for a Perfect working list.
Hans-Peter R
Great List
Bryan K
Such a great selection of valuable forums!
David G
Nice job!
Walt E
Good resource...
Robert P
Thank you for another great year!
Scott S
I could not do this without you...
Robert D
I believe I've been a list member for over a decade
now. Thanks for the service!
Tim L
Great List
Hendrik W
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Last "Official" Day Of The List Fund Raiser! |
Dear Listers,
Its November 30th and that means three things:..
1) Today I am now officially 45 years old...
2) It marks that last "official" day of this year's List Fund Raiser!
3) Its the last day I will be bugging everyone for a whole year!
If you use the Lists and enjoy the content and the no-advertising, no-spam, and
no-censorship way in which they're run, please make a Contribution today to support
their continued operation and upkeep. Your $20 or $30 goes a long way
to keep the List bills paid.
I will be posting the List of Contributors next week so make sure your name is
on it!
Thank you to everyone that has made a Contribution so far this year! It is greatly
appreciated.
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Email List and Forum Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | List of Contributors 2008 |
Dear Listers,
This year's Fund Raiser has drawn to a close and I want to thank everyone that
so generously made a contribution this year in support of the Matronics Email
List and Forum operation. Your generosity keeps the wheels on this cart and I
truly appreciate the many kind words of encouragement and financial reimbursement.
If you haven't yet made a Contribution in support of this year's Fund Raiser, please
feel free to do so. The great List Fund Raiser gifts will be available
on the Contribution site for a little while longer, so hurry and make your Contribution
today and still get your great gift! Once again, the URL for the Contribution
web site is:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by personal check to:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
I would like to thank Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore ( http://www.buildersbooks.com ), Jon Croke of HomebuiltHELP ( http://www.homebuilthelp.com ) and Bob Nuckolls of AeroElectric ( http://www.aeroelectric.com ) for their extremely generous support during this year's Fund Raiser through the contribution of discounted merchandise. These are great guys that support the aviation industry and I encourage each and every Lister to have a look at their products. Thank you Andy, Jon and Bob!! Your support is very much appreciated!
And finally, below you will find a web link to the 2008 List of Contributors current
as of 12/7/08! Have a look at this list of names as *these* are the people
that make all of these List services possible! I can't thank each of you
enough for your support and great feedback during this year's Fund Raiser!
THANK YOU!
http://www.matronics.com/loc/2008.html
I will be shipping out all of the gifts around the end of December. In most cases,
gifts will be shipped via US Postal Service.
Once again, thank you for making this year's List Fund Raiser successful!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | ThomasS745(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: L39-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 03/11/09 |
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| From: | Patrick Scofield <patrick(at)designworx.com> |
| Subject: | L-39 Oxygen Regulators |
I have two (2) of the stock regulators that fit into the ORK-9
ejection seat fitting in the l-39. They are in good condition and they
are functional.
Interested parties contact me off-line for pics and further
information at: patrick(at)designworx.com or 480-227-4125
Patrick Scofield
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| From: | Patrick Scofield <patrick(at)designworx.com> |
I have the removable tray that fits in the ammo compartment in the
L-39ZA. It is of metal construction and functions as an ammo
magazine for the aircraft. It is in good condition.
Interested parties contact me off-line for pics and further
information at: patrick(at)designworx.com or 480-227-4125
Patrick Scofield
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | PLEASE READ - Matronics Email List Fund Raiser During November! |
Dear Listers,
Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operation and upgrade of the List services at Matronics. It's solely through the Contributions of List members that these Matronics Lists are possible. There is NO advertising to support the Lists. You might have noticed the conspicuous lack of flashing banners and annoying pop-ups on the Matronics Email List email messages and web site pages such as the Matronics List Forums ( http://forums.matronics.com ), the List Wiki ( http://wiki.matronics.com), or other related pages such as the List Search Engine ( http://www.matronics.com/search ), the List Browser ( http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse ), etc. This is because I believe in a List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely Airplanes and not about annoying advertisements.
During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every couple of
days reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. I ask for your patience
and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages.
The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all
of the bills associated with running these lists. Your personal Contribution
counts!
Once again, this year I've got a terrific line up of free gifts to go along with
the various Contribution levels. Most all of these gifts have been provided
by some of the vary members and vendors that you'll find on Matronics Lists and
have been either donated or provided at substantially discounted rates.
This year, these generous people include Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric Connection (http://www.aeroelectric.com/), Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore (http://www.buildersbooks.com/), and Jon Croke of HomebuiltHELP (http://www.homebuilthelp.com/).
These are extremely generous guys and I encourage you to visit their respective
web sites. Each one offers a unique and very useful aviation-related product
line. I would like publicly to thank Bob, Andy, and Jon for their generous support
of the Lists again this year!!
You can make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods this
year including using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. All three methods
afford you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with
a qualifying Contribution amount!!
To make your Contribution, please visit the secure site below:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral
support over the years!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | November List Fund Raiser |
A couple of years ago I implemented an automatic "squelch button" of sorts for
the Fund Raiser messages. Here's how it works... As soon as a List member makes
a Contribution through the Matronics Fund Raiser web site, he or she will
instantly cease to receive these Fund Raiser messages for the rest of the month!
Its just that simple. Don't you wish PBS worked that way! :-)
I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support
the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware
and software that are required to run a List Site such as this one. It also goes
to pay for the commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the huge electric
bill to keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered
on. I run all of the Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which
allows me to control and monitor every aspect of the system for the utmost in
reliably and performance.
Your personal Contribution matters because, when combined with other Listers such
as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up and running. I accept
exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand
the pop-up ads and all other commercials that are so prevalent on the Internet
these days and I particularly don't want to have it on my Email List sites.
If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email
Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
[Note that there are certain circumstances where you might still see a Contribution
related message. For example, if someone replies to one of the messages,
when using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum.
The system keys on the given email address and since most of these are anonymous
public access methods, there is no simple way to filter them.]
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Dear Listers,
Just a quick reminder that November is the annual List Fund Raiser. The Matronics
Lists are 100% member supported and all of the operational costs are provided
for my your Contributions during this time of the year.
Your personal Contribution makes a difference and keeps all of the Matronics Email
Lists and Forums completely ad-free.
Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you in advance!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists |
Dear Listers,
There is no advertising income to support the Matronics Email Lists and Forums.
The operation is supported 100% by your personal Contributions during the November
Fund
Raiser.
Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade
of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution
too!
You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or, you can send a personal check to the following address:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore, CA 94551-0347
Thank you in advance for your generous support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Fund Raiser List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution |
Today!
Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone
that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way
of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for
the Lists.
Won't you take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors
(LOC)? As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems
at least - if not a whole lot more - valuable as a building/flying/recreating/entertainment
tool as your typical magazine subscription!
Please take minute and assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is
fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps
these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about
how the Lists have helped you!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | List Fund Raiser |
Dear Listers,
Just a reminder that November is the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser month. There
are some very nice incentive gifts to choose from as well!
Please make your Contribution today:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Some Very Nice Comments... |
Dear Listers,
I've been getting some really nice comments from Listers along with their List
Support Contributions. I've shared some of them below. Please read them over
and see what your fellow Listers think of the Lists and Forums.
Please make a Contribution today to support the continued upgrade and operation
of these services.
There are lots of sweet gifts available, so browse the extensive selection and
pickup a nice item along with your qualifying Contribution.
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you in advance for your generous support! It is very much appreciated!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
----------- What Listers Are Saying About The Lists -----------
Few things in life bring more usefulness than the List. This
is worth every penny!
Stephen T.
I have enjoyed the list for way too many years, but continue
to get closer to flying my project with the help of listers.
C.L.
Thanks for this List. It's been a great source of encouragement
and information.
Arden A.
Great service!
Gerald T.
It's always interesting reading the lists and I've gotten some
good help from the issues and answers there.
Steve T.
Been a member of the List for 12 years. Keep up the good work.
John H.
Great Site!
Harry M.
Great source of information...
Martin H.
Thanks for providing this great service!
Jeff P.
I continue to get and give information through these lists.
Ralph C.
This is a wonderful resource!
Warren H.
This is what inernet was meant for, sharing information and
experience. Michael W.
Thanks for making such a good list!
Fred D.
Thanks for running a great service!
Michael F.
I really appreciate it.
Dan H.
Thanks for the great service.
Michael L.
Thanks for maintaining this great resource.
John C.
Your sites have been a great resourses and an introduction
to many competent aircraft designers and fabricators.
Jon M.
Thanks for all that you do to maintain the Matronics forums
and for the personal help that you have been to me in
answering my questions regarding the use of the forums.
William B.
[The List] helped me get flying, fly off my test hours and
make my systems better. Ralph C.
The Universe is a better place because of you.
Eric J.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Contributions Down By 21%... |
Dear Listers,
As of today, contributions to the Matronics List Fund Raiser are lagging behind
last year at this time by 21%. I have a fund raiser each year simply to cover
my operating costs for the Lists. I *do not* accept any advertising income
to support the Lists and rely solely on the contributions of members to keep the
expenses paid.
I run all of my own servers and they are housed here locally, and the Internet
connection is a commercial-grade, T1 connection with public address space. I
also maintain a full backup system that does nightly backups of all List-related
data so that in the event of a server crash or worse, all of the Lists and
the many years of List archive data could be restored onto a new server in a matter
of hours.
All of this costs a fair amount of money, not to mention a significant amount of
my personal time as well. I have a Fund Raiser each year to cover these costs
and I ask that members that feel they receive a benefit from my investments,
make a modest contribution each year to support the continued operation and
upgrade of these services.
If you enjoy the Lists, please make a contribution today. I also offer some incentive
gifts for larger contribution levels. At the Contribution Web Wite, you
can use a credit card, Paypal, or personal check to show your support for the
continuation of these services:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | What's My Contribution Used For? |
Dear Listers,
Some have asked, "What's my Contribution used for?" and that's a good question.
Here are just a few examples of what your direct List support enables. It provides
for the very expensive, commercial-grade T1 Internet connection used on
the List insuring maximum performance and minimal contention when accessing List
services. It pays for the regular system hardware and software upgrades enabling
the highest performance possible for services such as the Archive Search
Engine, List Browser, and Forums. It pays for narly 20 years (yeah, I really
said *20* years) worth of online archive data available for instant random search
and access. And, it offsets the many hours spent writing, developing, and
maintaining the custom applications that power this List Service such as the List
Browse, Search Engine, Forums, and Wiki.
But most importantly, your List Contribution enables a forum where you and your
peers can communicate freely in an environment that is free from moderation,
censorship, advertising, commercialism, SPAM, and computer viruses. How many places
on the Internet can you make all those statements these days?
It is YOUR CONTRIBUTION that directly enables these many aspects of these valuable
List services. Please support it today with your List Contribution. Its one
of the best investments you can make in your Sport...
List Contribution Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just A Few Days Left; Still Trailing Last Year... |
Dear Listers,
There are just a few more days left of this year's List Fund Raiser! Response
has been very good, but still well behind last year. If you've been waiting until
the last minute to make your contribution and maybe even pick up a great
gift, now might be good time to show your support!
Please remember that there isn't any sort of commercial advertising on the Lists
and the *only* means of keeping these Lists running is through your Contributions
during this Fund Raiser.
Please make a Contribution today!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published in |
December!
Dear Listers,
The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a
list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists.
Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists
is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
USA
(Please include your email address on the check!)
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps
these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment
about how the Lists have helped you!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just A Few More Days To Make Your List Contribution... |
There is less than a week left in this year's List Fund Raiser and only a few short
days to grab one of the great Contribution Gifts available this year. Support
is still significantly lagging behind last year at this point but hopefully
it will pick up here towards the end. Please remember that it is solely the
Contributions of List members that keeps the Lists up and running as there
is no commercialism or advertising on the Matronics Lists and Forums.
The List Contribution web site is secure, fast, and easy and you can use a credit
card, Paypal, or a personal check:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
I want to thank everyone that has already made a generous contribution to support
the Lists!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics EMail List and Forum Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | What Are You Thankful For...? |
Dear Listers,
Here in the United States, Thursday is our National day of Thanksgiving. Many
of us will be traveling to be with our families and friends to share in generous
feasts of plenty and giving thanks for many blessings that have been bestowed
upon us.
Many Listers have expressed over the last couple of weeks how thankful they are
for the Email Lists and Forums here on the Matronics servers and for all of the
assistance and comradery they have experienced being a part of the Lists.
One of my favorite comments is when someone writes to me and says something like,
"Its the first thing I do in the morning while I'm having my morning coffee!".
That's a wonderful tribute to the purpose and function of these Lists.
Its always great to hear I'm not the only one that jumps out of bed each morning
to check my List email!!
Won't you take a minute today and show your appreciation for these Lists and for
their continued operation and upgrade?
The List Contribution Site is:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you in advance for your kind consideration,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | No "Black Friday" For List Fund Raiser... |
Even though the number of List subscriptions and List posts are up significantly
this year compared to last year, support during this year's List Fund Raiser
has been woefully lagging from last year. There are only a couple more days
left in November and the end of the Fund Raiser is quickly approaching.
I have always preferred a non-commercial List experience as many, many members
have also expressed that they do as well. However, if the yearly fund raiser
cannot generate sufficient funds to keep the bills paid on the List service expenses,
I will have to look into some sort of advertising. Please don't let that
happen!
Your personal contribution of $20 or $30 goes a long ways to keeping the operation
a float. The lunch combo at Carl's Jr costs nearly $10 these days. Isn't
the List worth at least as much as a couple of burgers?
Please make sure your name is on this year's List of Contributors published in
December. The Contribution site is secure, quick, and easy:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you in advance for your support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just Two More Days Left; Fund Raiser Behind By 12%... |
Dear Listers,
This year's List Fund Raiser is still trailing last year by a 12% margin. If you
like the ad-free environment that is the Matronics Email List and Forum experience,
please make a quick Contribution to keep it that way!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
I've been getting a ton of really nice comments from Contributors regarding the
Lists. Please read over some of them below and see if they don't resonate with
you as well.
Thank you in advance for your generous contribution to support these Lists!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
--------------------------- Member Feedback ----------------------------
ur web site is a real institution of the whole Experimental
Aircraft subculture.
John G
Thanks Matt for the lists. A lot of good info. Great bunch
of list members. Great videos and no SPAM.
Paul C
It has been a valuable tool.
Troy M
..appreciate the site as much as ever.
Larry M
By using various forums I've learned a ton, received great
advice, made friends, and saved money!
Craig W
Since I've finished [my project], I've not had much to do as
far as fabrication of electrical systems. However,
selectively reading various topics is still very valuable
and Bob's insights and new how to's make me a continuous
subscriber.
Larry F
Matronics user groups are the best tool I have for learning
to build my RV-10!
Philip W
There is always useful knowledge to be found on this list,
and I suspect that it has kept quite a few people out of
trouble over the years it has been in operation. Good
entertainment, too.
Graham H
Great web site. I wish I'd known about it while building.
Bob S
I'm happy to provide some support to this list. It is very
helpful.
Vaughn T
Good service to sport aviation!!
Roger B
Awesome Service you provide for us!
Bill R
My [project] is almost finished! However, it wouldn't be
close without the [this] group.
Douwe B
Great list.
Robert S
I'm not a builder yet but learning lots from the list.
Peter M
Some nonsense, some humor, but mostly good information.
Tony C
Thanks for creating and keeping the Lists. They are
entertaining and always informative!
John M
Thanks for this valuable resource to our community.
Barry H
The list is IMHO the greatest resource on the net.
John B
Thanks again for providing another year of your useful
List service.
Jerry B
Great site indeed, every time I get a message I usually
learn something.
Peter B
You are making a huge contribution to the builder fraternity
and in no small way enhancing sport aviation safety.
Richard G
The List is the SINGLE, MOST IMPORTANT resource I have in
building my RV10. I would be lost without out it. And I
have made a bunch of new friends as well!
Les K
The lists are one of the things I really enjoy, so keep
up the good work.
Freddie H
Every year -- the best value for my time and money!
Owen B
This list is a major contribution to safe building!
Donald K
Really enjoy the daily boost it gives me.
Walter S
In the last 18 months I have been privileged to listen &
ask. I have learnt at the feet of the masters...
Stewart G
You set the standard on how Internet forums should be run
and managed.
Larry W
The Universe is a better place because of you.
Eric J
[The List] helped me get flying, fly off my test hours and
make my systems better. I continue to get and give
information through these lists.
Ralph C
..another GREAT year of advice, answers, and inspiration
courtesy of the Lists and your hard work!!!!
Rob B
..the best forum on the Internet!
Robert B
I can't tell you how grateful I am for your list and your
subscribers to keep me up to date and holding the dream.
Ashley M
This page makes it easy to contribute.
Jeffrey P
Thank you for your expertise in creating & running the
much useful lists!
Anthony P
Thanks for providing our advertising free on line community.
George R
Thanks for maintaining the equipment and software to
provide this valuable source of information to us
individuals. Your effort is appreciated by many more people
than you realize.
Ross H
Thanks for a great site. Although the project is complete
and flying I still get a wealth of information from all
the messages.
Marcus C
Only learned about you six months ago...my RV-7A is just
finished, but the list has been helpful. Wish I had
discovered you sooner.
Jack B
This is an invaluable communications media for us
common minded folks to exchange technical and other
information.
George H
..great service that you provide.
David W
..still appreciate your list.
Alain L
[The] Lists are an invaluable resource. I know that it has
helped me enormously in my project.
William B
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser! |
Dear Listers,
Its November 30th and that means at least two things. For better or worse, its
my 46th birthday! But it also means that its that last official day of the
Matronics Email List Fund Raiser! If you been jones'n over one of the really
nice gifts that are available this year with a qualifying Contribution, then now
is the time to jump on one!!
If you've been meaning to make a Contribution this month but have been putting
it off for some reason, NOW is the time!
I will be posting the List of Contributors in a few days, so you'll probably want
to be known as a person that supported the Lists!
I want to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution so far this
year in support of our Lists. It is your generosity that keeps this operation
a float and I don't ever forget it. Hopefully everyone feels the same.
The List Contribution Web Site is fast and easy. Please support our habit by making
your Contribution right now:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you to all in advance!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | 2009 List of Contributors |
Dear Listers,
The 2009 Matronics Email List and Forum Fund Raiser officially ended a couple of
weeks ago and its time that I publish this year's List of Contributors. Its
the people on this list that directly make the Email Lists and Forums possible.
Their generous
contributions keep the servers and Internet connection up and running.
You can still show your support this year and pick up a great gift at the same
time. The Contribution Web Site is fast, easy, and secure:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
I also want to thank Bob, Jon, Andy, and John for their generous support through
the supply of great gifts this year!! These guys have some great products and
I encourage you to visit their respective web sites:
Bob Nucklolls - AeroElectric - www.aeroelectric.com
Jon Croke - HomebuiltHELP - www.homebuilthelp.com
Andy Gold - The Builder's Bookstore - www.buildersbooks.com
John Caldwell - HowToCrimp - www.howtocrimp.com
And finally, I'm proud to present The 2009 Fund Raiser List of Contributors:
http://www.matronics.com/loc/2009.html
Thanks again to everyone that made a Contribution this year!!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
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| Subject: | Hot Offer For Nanchang CJ6 Parts |
| From: | "Nanchang CJ6" <lcdzkj(at)live.cn> |
P/N Description
1 12-5522-00 Double action valve
2 H2-5522-00 Emergency valve
3 H2-5503-00 Check Valve
4 H2-5523-00 Hose
5 H2-5524-00 Hose
6 H2-5526-00 Hose
7 H2-5532-00/3 Hose
8 H2-5532-00/5 Hose
9 H2-1030-100 Anti-Dust Cover
10 H2-0109-110 Seat pad
11 H2-7510-90 Seat pad
12 HB2-30B Pin
13 BM5GB62 Nut
14 GB1018-20 Washer
15 H2-9850-900 Oil Table
16 H2-9850-100 Screw Jack
17 H2-9820-200 Screw Jack
18 H2-9810-200 Screw Jack
19 H2-9820-300 Control Lock
20 H2-9820-400 Control Lock
21 H2-9260-10 Cover
P/N Des.
1 SBL-40 inverter
2 SBL-53 inverter
3 QDF-1 Compressed air solenoid valve
4 1J-S34-1
5 GZ-14 Tachometer transmitter
6 H2-6121-106 fuel filter cup
8 H2-6904-00 fixing pin
9 H2-6901-320 rubber bushes
10 GWR-1 Resistor temperature sensor
11 H2-3700-00-1 Flap hinge
12 H2-3204-20 Trim hinge
14 H2-9840-100A Air charging hose
15 Airfield power cable
18 H2-5522-00 Emergency air valve
19 H2-4230-40 Front gear uplock
20 H2-4130-50 Main gear uplock
21 H2-9830-400 Air charging tool with manometer
22 GR-8 Thermocouple
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Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=304136#304136
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | PLEASE READ - List Fund Raiser Kickoff! |
Dear Listers,
Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operation
and upgrade of the List services at Matronics. It's solely through the Contributions
of List members that these Matronics Lists are possible. There is NO
advertising to support the Lists. You might have noticed the conspicuous lack
of flashing banners and annoying pop-ups on the Matronics Email List email messages
and web site pages including:
* Matronics List Forums http://forums.matronics.com
* Matronics List List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com
* Matronics List Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search
* Matronics List Browser http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse
You don't find advertising on any of these pages because I believe in a List experience
that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely Airplanes and
not about annoying advertisements.
During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every couple of
days reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. I ask for your patience
and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages.
The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all
of the bills associated with running these Lists. Your personal Contribution
counts!
Once again, this year I've got a terrific line up of free gifts to go along with
the various Contribution levels. Most all of these gifts have been provided
by some of the vary members and vendors that you'll find on Matronics Lists and
have been either donated or provided at substantially discounted rates.
This year, these generous people include:
* Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric Connection http://www.aeroelectric.com
* Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore http://www.buildersbooks.com
* Jon Croke of HomebuiltHELP http://www.homebuilthelp.com
These are extremely generous guys and I encourage you to visit their respective
web sites. Each one offers a unique and very useful aviation-related product
line. I would like publicly to thank Bob, Andy, and Jon for their generous support
of the Lists again this year!!
You can make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods including
using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. All three methods afford
you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying
Contribution amount!!
To make your Contribution, please visit the secure site below:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral
support over the years!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
RV-8 Builder and Flyer
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | November List Fund Raiser |
There is an automatic "squelch button" of sorts for the Fund Raiser messages.
Here's how it works... As soon as a List member makes a Contribution through
the Matronics Fund Raiser web site, they will instantly cease to receive these
Fund Raiser messages for the rest of the month! Its just that simple.
I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support
the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware
and software that are required to run a List Site such as this one. It also goes
to pay for the commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the huge electric
bill to keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered
on. I run all of the Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which
allows me to control and monitor every aspect of the system for the utmost in
reliably and performance.
Your personal Contribution matters because, when combined with other Listers such
as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up and running. I accept
exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand
the pop-up ads and all other commercials that are so prevalent on the Internet
these days and I particularly don't want to have it on my Email List sites.
If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email
Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
[Note that there are certain circumstances where you might still see a Contribution
related message. For example, if someone replies to one of the messages,
when using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum.
The system keys on the given email address and since most of these are anonymous
public access methods, there is no simple way to filter them.]
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Dear Listers,
A quick reminder that November is the annual List Fund Raiser. The Matronics Lists
are 100% member supported and all of the operational costs are provided for
my your Contributions during this time of the year.
Your personal Contribution makes a big difference and keeps all of the Matronics
Email Lists and Forums completely ad-free.
Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you in advance!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists |
Dear Listers,
There is no advertising income to support the Matronics Email Lists and Forums.
The operation is supported 100% by your personal Contributions during the November
Fund Raiser.
Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade
of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution
too!
You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or, you can send a personal check to the following address:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore, CA 94550
Thank you in advance for your generous support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution |
Today!
Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone
that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way
of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Please take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors
(LOC)! As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems
at least as valuable a building / entertainment tool as your typical magazine
subscription!
Assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the
Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your
Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps
these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about
how the Lists have helped you!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Support The Lists... |
Dear Listers,
Just a reminder that November is the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser month. There
are some very nice incentive gifts to choose from as well!
Please make your Contribution today at:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make A Contribution... |
Dear Listers,
A quick reminder that November is the annual List Fund Raiser. The Matronics Lists
are 100% member supported and all of the operational costs are provided for
my your Contributions during this time of the year.
Your personal Contribution makes a big difference and keeps all of the Matronics
Email Lists and Forums completely ad-free.
Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you in advance!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | List Fund Raiser & Some Very Nice Comments... |
Dear Listers,
I've been getting some really nice comments from Listers along with their List
Support Contributions. I've shared some of them below. Please read them over
and see what your fellow Listers think of the Lists and Forums.
Please make a Contribution today to support the continued upgrade and operation
of these services.
There are lots of sweet gifts available, so browse the extensive selection and
pickup a nice item along with your qualifying Contribution.
Contribution Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you in advance for your generous support! It is very much appreciated!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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You are providing a great service. Thanks so very much.
David L
Keep up the good work! A great website - wish I'd found it earlier!
Bob S
Thanks for providing a site for information.
Jim S
Thanks again for providing a great service to our community!
Alex M
Thanks and keep up the good work!
Robert B.
Great forum!
David S
Thanks for providing the Kolb List for the last 12 years.
John H
Long time lurker, it's a great resource...many thanks.
Ian C
Your work and effort are greatly appreciated.
Nicolas L
Thank you very much for keeping the list going!
Svein J
Thank you for your support to the community.
Valin T
I am a long time subscriber and a slow builder because of
work and two moves, but still enjoy the process and your
list.
CL M
Thanks for providing this service. It can't be beat!
Thomas W
I'm no longer a builder or flier but I like to keep in touch with
the List - which is the best organised list I've seen on the Internet.
Gerry C
Matt, you are doing a GREAT service to the community of KOLB
Builders and Flyers.
John B
I've been flying for almost two years and still find these Lists as a great
resource for information.....now I get to answer a question once-in-a-while too.
Ralph C
Thanks for this great service.
Dale E
I couldn't keep on building without the support I get from this List.
Thomas S
This is a great service to all of us.
Michael W
I am no longer actively building, but I really like to keep up with what's
going on, and I especially like to follow Bob Nuckolls - and your RV-8.
Terrence W
I really appreciate your work and consider the lists to be a great value.
Christopher R
Thanks Matt for a great resource!
Geoff T
Many thanks for providing this service. I love it.
William V
One of the best Internet Deals going...
Owen B
Thanks for the great site.
Danny S
A valuable resource.
George A
Thanks for running a great list.
Ted P
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | What's My Contribution Used For? |
Dear Listers,
Some have asked, "What's my Contribution used for?" and that's a good question.
Here are just a few examples of what your direct List support enables. It provides
for the very expensive, commercial-grade T1 Internet connection used on
the List insuring maximum performance and minimal contention when accessing List
services. It pays for the regular system hardware and software upgrades enabling
the highest performance possible for services such as the Archive Search
Engine, List Browser, and Forums. It pays for narly 20 years (yeah, I really
said *20* years) worth of online archive data available for instant random search
and access. And, it offsets the many hours spent writing, developing, and
maintaining the custom applications that power this List Service such as the List
Browse, Search Engine, Forums, and Wiki.
But most importantly, your List Contribution enables a forum where you and your
peers can communicate freely in an environment that is free from moderation,
censorship, advertising, commercialism, SPAM, and computer viruses. How many places
on the Internet can you make all those statements these days? It is YOUR
CONTRIBUTION that directly enables these many aspects of these valuable List
services. Please support it today with your List Contribution. Its one of the
best investments you can make in your Sport...
List Contribution Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just A Few Days Left; Well Behind Last Year... |
Dear Listers,
There are just a few more days left of this year's List Fund Raiser. Response
has been good so far, but we're well behind last year at this point. If you've
been waiting until the last minute to make your Contribution, now might be good
time to show your support and maybe pick up a nice gift as well!
Please remember that there is no commercial advertising on these Lists and the
*only* means of keeping them running is through your Contributions during this
Fund Raiser. If it weren't for your individual Contributions, these Lists could
easily become economically infeasible and simply cease to exist.
You probably can't even take the family out to dinner for $20 these days, but your
individual Contribution of the same amount makes a huge difference in keeping
the List services alive.
Please make a Contribution today with a Credit Card or Paypal:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published in |
December!
Dear Listers,
The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a
list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists.
Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists
is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
USA
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that
keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment
about how the Lists have
helped you!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Contributions Down By 17%... |
Dear Listers,
As of today, Contributions to the Matronics List Fund Raiser are lagging behind
last year at this time by roughly 17%. I have a Fund Raiser each year simply
to cover my operating costs for the Lists. I *do not* accept any advertising
income to support the Lists and rely solely on the Contributions of members to
keep the expenses paid.
I run all of my own servers and they are housed here locally, and the Internet
connection is a commercial-grade, T1 connection with public address space. I
also maintain a full backup system that does nightly backups of all List-related
data so that in the event of a server crash or worse, all of the Lists and
the many years of List archive data could be restored onto a new server in a matter
of hours.
All of this costs a fair amount of money, not to mention a significant amount of
my personal time. I have a Fund Raiser each year to cover these costs and I
ask that members that feel they receive a benefit from my investments make a
modest Contribution each year to support the continued operation and upgrade of
these services.
If you enjoy the Lists, please make a Contribution today. I also offer some incentive
gifts for larger Contribution levels. At the Contribution Web Wite, you
can use a credit card, Paypal, or personal check to show your support for the
continuation of these services:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
USA
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just A Few More Days To Make Your List Contribution... |
There is less than a week left in this year's List Fund Raiser and only a few short
days to grab one of the great Contribution Gifts available this year. Support
is still significantly lagging behind last year at this point but hopefully
it will pick up here towards the end. Please remember that it is solely the
Contributions of List members that keeps the Lists up and running as there
is no commercialism or advertising on the Matronics Lists and Forums.
The List Contribution web site is secure, fast, and easy and you can use a credit
card, Paypal, or a personal check:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
USA
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Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics EMail List and Forum Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | What Are You Thankful For...? |
Dear Listers,
Here in the United States, Thursday is our National day of Thanksgiving. Many
of us will be traveling to be with our families and friends to share in generous
feasts of plenty and giving thanks for the many blessings that have been bestowed
upon us.
Many Listers have expressed over the last couple of weeks how thankful they are
for the Email Lists and Forums here on the Matronics servers and for all of the
assistance and comradery they have experienced being a part of the Lists.
One of my favorite comments is when someone writes to me and says something like,
"Its the first thing I do in the morning while I'm having my morning coffee!".
That's a wonderful tribute to the purpose and function of these Lists.
Its always great to hear I'm not the only one that jumps out of bed each morning
to check my List email!!
Won't you take a minute today and show your appreciation for these Lists and for
their continued operation and upgrade?
The List Contribution Site is:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
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USA
Thank you in advance for your kind consideration,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | No "Black Friday" For List Fund Raiser... |
Dear Listers,
Curiously, even though the number of List subscriptions are significantly up this
year, support during this year's Fund Raiser is still substantially behind
last year. There are only a couple more days left in November and the end of
the Fund Raiser is quickly approaching.
I have always preferred a non-commercial List experience as many, many members
have also expressed that they do as well. However, if the yearly fund raiser
cannot generate sufficient funds to keep the bills paid, other sources of income
might be required including some sort of advertising. Please don't let that
happen! Your personal Contribution of $20 or $30 goes a long ways to keeping
the operation a float.
Please make sure your name is on this year's List of Contributors published in
December.
The Contribution site is secure, quick, and easy:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
USA
Thank you in advance for your support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just Three Days Left & Some Very Nice Comments... |
Dear Listers,
There are just three days left in this year's List Fund Raiser. Won't you take
a monment and make a quick Contribution today to support the continued upgrade
and operation of these Forum services.
I've received some more really nice comments from Listers along with their List
Support Contributions, and I've share a few below.
There are some sweet gifts available this year, so browse the selections and pickup
a nice item along with your qualifying Contribution.
Contribution Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
USA
Thank you in advance for your generous support! It is very much appreciated!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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Great resource, keep it coming...
Marten V.
Thanks for maintaining these essential lists!
Rumen D.
Great Service!
Douglas D.
Thanks for this great service!
Peter T.
Thanks for your enduring support of homebuilding communications!
Daniel M.
You do a great job and provide a valuable service.
Mark B.
It's really a great source I have used a lot.
Robert K.
Reading the RV-10 list is part of my morning routine...
Perry C.
Great job running these lists.
Edward T.
Thanks for doing a tough job.
Mic T.
Your List was such a great resource for me when I built in "98".
Ron V.
Its a very useful forum.
Dave F.
Really enjoy your list...
William D.
Great service,
Gerald T.
The list still is a valuable source of information and there
are many worthwhile postings.
Graham H.
The list has seen me through an RV-9A, RV-10, and now an RV-12.
Albert G.
Thanks for a great resource!
Barry H.
Thank you for maintaining this excellent site.
Bill W.
The Matronics Email list are an invaluable service.
William C.
I appreciate the RV-10 list.
Vijay P.
Thanks for a great list and all of the work you do.
Ian W.
Thanks for keeping up this very useful list.
George R.
The list is excellent and I find it very handy for any problems
I come up against during construction.
Greg W.
The lists are an important part of my day. I've met lots of people
and made lots of friends.
Dave S.
It's really a great source I haved used a lot.
Robert K.
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PF B.
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Make Sure You're Listed! |
Dear Listers,
The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner with just two more days
in this year's Fund Raiser! Later in December I will post a list of everyone
that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists this year. Its
my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others
that you appreciate the Lists.
Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard,
or Paypal account:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that
keeps these Lists running and improving!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser! |
Dear Listers,
Its November 30th and that means at least two things. For better or worse, its
my 47th birthday! But it also means that its that last official day of the
Matronics Email List Fund Raiser! If you been drooling over one of the really
nice gifts that are available this year with a qualifying Contribution, then
now is the time to jump on one!!
If you've been meaning to make a Contribution this month but have been putting
it off for some reason, NOW is the time!
I will be posting the List of Contributors in a few days, so you'll probably want
to be known as a person that supported the Lists!
I want to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution this year in
support of our Lists. It is your generosity that keeps this operation running
and I don't ever forget it. Hopefully everyone feels the same.
The List Contribution Web Site is fast and easy. Please support our habit by making
your Contribution right now:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you to all in advance!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | 2010 List of Contributors |
Dear Listers,
The 2010 Matronics Email List and Forum Fund Raiser officially ended a couple of
weeks ago and its time that I publish this year's List of Contributors. Its
the people on this list that directly make the Email Lists and Forums possible.
Their generous contributions keep the servers and Internet connection up and
running.
You can still show your support this year and pick up a great gift at the same
time. The Contribution Web Site is fast, easy, and secure:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
I also want to thank Bob, Jon, and Andy for their generous support through the
supply of great gifts this year!! These guys have some great products and I encourage
you to visit their respective web sites:
Bob Nucklolls - AeroElectric - www.aeroelectric.com
Jon Croke - HomebuiltHELP - www.homebuilthelp.com
Andy Gold - The Builder's Bookstore - www.buildersbooks.com
And finally, I'm proud to present The 2010 Fund Raiser List of Contributors:
http://www.matronics.com/loc/2010.html
Thanks again to everyone that made a Contribution this year!!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
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| From: | Jon Boede <jonboede(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | RE: L29-List: 8130-2G |
I called EAA Warbirds today and talked with a nice gentleman who said that
they and CJAA are having a meeting next month to iron some of the nonsense
out.
He said that once that meeting takes place the FAA will issue deviation let
ters for anybody who's caught between April 15th and when 8130.2G Change 1
is published (whenever that is=2C in the distant future).
EAA's and CJAA's position on the changes is exactly what you'd want them to
be... very reasonable and questioning *all* the nonsense in 2G ex/ex opera
ting limitations section=3B they have a long list.
Of course the take-away is Thank Goodness for these guys... if you don't be
long to EAA Warbirds=2C you should. If you don't belong to CJAA=2C you sho
uld. If you don't belong to RPA=2C you should. Don't just sit and be than
kful that it's the Hot Ejection Seat guys and not You that's getting slippe
d the wiener this time -- the "life limited parts" stuff in 2G is the FAA c
amel's nose under our collective skirt. =3B-) As usual=2C it's pretty obv
ious that Yon Administrator thinks the safest warbird is one that's grounde
d... you can see which way the FAA would head in a big hurry if EAA=2C CJAA
and RPA weren't raising holy heck about it. Oh=2C and apparently the Army
Aviation Foundation has their war paint on as well... good guys.
More news as it develops.
Jon
> Date: Wed=2C 23 Mar 2011 18:30:16 -0500
> From: ainut(at)knology.net
> To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: L29-List: 8130-2G
>
> --> L29-List message posted by: David
>
> Anyone friends with a Congresscritter that is over the FAA knuckleheads?
>
> David
>
>
> colyergreg(at)aol.com wrote:
> > All of our ex-military jets will be paper weights or on sticks on our
> > front lawns.
> >
> >
> > Greg
> > 415-531-0970
> > www.AceMakerAirshows.com <http://www.AceMakerAirshows.com>
> >
> > On Mar 23=2C 2011=2C at 9:18 AM=2C Royal Tony > > wrote:
> >
> >> The new 8130-2G addresses the life limited parts issue and allows an
> >> experimental exhibition aircraft to fly without having life limited
> >> parts complied with. More restrictions over congested area and no
> >> passengers. I was told by my FSDO that until Washington proves that
> >> there are life limited parts on an L-29=2C I was free to fly but that
> >> the new 8130 addressed this and was a mute point now.
> >> I just purchased and currently flying the L-29 so I am a newbie. I do
> >> know that if the FAA implements any or all of the life limited parts
> >> on a list I have seen=2C some L-29's may become large paper weights.
> >> The choice may be flying with restrictions or a large lawn ornament?
> >>
> >> */Anthony (Tony) Royal/*
> >>
> >> *
> >>
> >>
> >> *
> > *
> >
> >
> > *
>
> --
> If you're an American=2C just say NO to the Obamanation=2C to socialism
=2C and get rid of Soros.
>
>
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>
>
>
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| From: | "Paul" <paulhath(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: L29-List: 8130-2G |
Excellent. Thanks Jon.
- Paul
----- Original Message -----
From: Jon Boede
To: l29-list(at)matronics.com ; l39-list(at)matronics.com ;
yak-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 10:35 PM
Subject: RE: L29-List: 8130-2G
I called EAA Warbirds today and talked with a nice gentleman who said
that they and CJAA are having a meeting next month to iron some of the
nonsense out.
He said that once that meeting takes place the FAA will issue
deviation letters for anybody who's caught between April 15th and when
8130.2G Change 1 is published (whenever that is, in the distant future).
EAA's and CJAA's position on the changes is exactly what you'd want
them to be... very reasonable and questioning *all* the nonsense in 2G
ex/ex operating limitations section; they have a long list.
Of course the take-away is Thank Goodness for these guys... if you
don't belong to EAA Warbirds, you should. If you don't belong to CJAA,
you should. If you don't belong to RPA, you should. Don't just sit and
be thankful that it's the Hot Ejection Seat guys and not You that's
getting slipped the wiener this time -- the "life limited parts" stuff
in 2G is the FAA camel's nose under our collective skirt. ;-) As
usual, it's pretty obvious that Yon Administrator thinks the safest
warbird is one that's grounded... you can see which way the FAA would
head in a big hurry if EAA, CJAA and RPA weren't raising holy heck about
it. Oh, and apparently the Army Aviation Foundation has their war paint
on as well... good guys.
More news as it develops.
Jon
> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 18:30:16 -0500
> From: ainut(at)knology.net
> To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: L29-List: 8130-2G
>
> --> L29-List message posted by: David
>
> Anyone friends with a Congresscritter that is over the FAA
knuckleheads?
>
> David
>
>
> colyergreg(at)aol.com wrote:
> > All of our ex-military jets will be paper weights or on sticks on
our
> > front lawns.
> >
> >
> > Greg
> > 415-531-0970
> > www.AceMakerAirshows.com <http://www.AceMakerAirshows.com>
> >
> > On Mar 23, 2011, at 9:18 AM, Royal Tony > > wrote:
> >
> >> The new 8130-2G addresses the life limited parts issue and allows
an
> >> experimental exhibition aircraft to fly without having life
limited
> >> parts complied with. More restrictions over congested area and no
> >> passengers. I was told by my FSDO that until Washington proves
that
> >> there are life limited parts on an L-29, I was free to fly but
that
> >> the new 8130 addressed this and was a mute point now.
> >> I just purchased and currently flying the L-29 so I am a newbie.
I do
> >> know that if the FAA implements any or all of the life limited
parts
> >> on a list I have seen, some L-29's may become large paper
weights.
> >> The choice may be flying with restrictions or a large lawn
ornament?
> >>
> >> */Anthony (Tony) Royal/*
> >>
> >> *
> >>
> >>
> >> *
> > *
> >
> >
> > *
>
> --
> If you're an American, just say NO to the Obamanation, to socialism,
and get rid of Soros.
>
> >======
>
>
>
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| Subject: | L-29 Engine start problems |
| From: | "BasilAir Warbirds" <coasties(at)ozemail.com.au> |
Hi All I am in the process of re assembling and making operational a L29 Delfin
which was imported from the US. I am on the east coast of Australia and this
is my first time exposure to the L29, and with the limited maintenance data
available it has been a steep learning curve. We are getting to the business
end of the project but have struck a problem when we came to dry spin and then
start the Walter M-701 engine. The problem started as not being able to engage
the starter motor or power the ignitor plugs etc etc. I found that when the
start was initiated with the starter button in the front cockpit (205 KS located
left front desk) the sequencing cam drive electric motor in the LUN 2273 start
control box would only run while the start button in the cockpit was depressed.
Normally after initiating the start by depressing the start button for three
seconds the sequence cam drive motor should continue to progress through
the start sequence and then stop at the start position ready for the next start
but what is happening with our aircraft is as soon as the start button is released
the sequence cam drive motor stops driving and the start sequence ends.
Also with the electrical cable to the start motor disconnected from the LUN 2273
start control box, the sequence cam drive motor can be run through its full
start cycle by holding the start button in the cockpit depressed although it
will not stop at the start position, it will just continue to run whilst the start
button is depressed. If the electrical cable to the starter is reconnected
to the LUN 2273 start control box and the sequence cam drive motor is run through
its cycle by holding the starter button depressed, the over current circuit
breaker A18 on the sub distribution board( R/H rear circuit board-front cockpit)
trips when the sequence arrives at the position that power is applied to
the starter motor.
What is the purpose and effect on systems that the control box located at the top
left side of the engine and has three switches mounted in it that are marked
Panel-Pozar-Dynamo. It appears they may be used for maintenance operations but
I cannot find description or information on these switches.
I am in possession of maintenance data downloaded from L29.org and at this stage
these are my main reference on maintenance and system and operation procedures
but I find the content limited. Example in the document labelled Operation
and Attendance manual which has listed a section STARTING OF ENGINE,CIRCUIT B,
the main location and schematic diagrams figures 21 & 22 are missing. Is there
anywhere I can obtain more detailed information on this aircraft and its systems
and operation from a maintenance perspective.
If anyone can offer solutions to these problems I would be most appreciative. Regards
Bruce Allan Cessnock Australia email coasties(at)ozemail.com.au
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BasilAir Warbirds Warnervale Australia
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=345527#345527
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| From: | "Bulldog" <steve(at)ritzi.com> |
There's an update on the CJAA website on their efforts to correct the issues with
8130.2G. They state that some type of amendment is forthcoming that will make
corrections.
Jon, couldn't agree more with you that membership in CJAA, WoA is worth every dollar.
These folks work tirelessly and have a huge amount of expertise. I am
a member of both groups even though I don't fly jets. I see significant benefit
as a Bulldog operator since it is also registered under the Experimental/Exhibition
regs.
V/R
Steve
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Steve Ritzi
N708BD
Scottish Aviation Bulldog
Royal Air Force XX708
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353702#353702
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | PLEASE READ - 2011 List Fund Raiser Kickoff - 21 Years Strong!! |
Dear Listers,
This year marks 21 years of the Email Lists and Forums at Matronics! I've been
running these forums for nearly half my life! I've made some great friends over
the years and had countless email and personal conversations with builders
about aircraft building and flying. What a great community of people! The advice,
support, and friendship has be invaluable over the years.
To support the continued operation and upgrade of the List servers, each November
I hold a PBS-like fund raiser. It is solely through the Contributions of List
members that these Matronics Lists are possible. There is NO advertising
November 24, 2002 - November 03, 2011
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