Lom-Archive.digest.vol-aa
August 09, 2003 - November 01, 2009
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | New LOM Email Forum At Matronics... |
Dear LOM owners,
Okay, so I'm a little slow in getting this setup! I was cleaning out my
email box today and happened across a request from Jim Ayers where he was
asking if I'd set up an email list for LOM owners. Better late than never,
so I got on it today and set it up! You should have received the List FAQ
earlier today. It has lots of interesting information about the List and
some of the nifty features. Please have a look at it. Also, you'll find
web links below that will take you to most of the cool features. Some of
the archive links won't work until tomorrow after the nightly update.
Please feel free to use this List as you see fit and to invite your friends
to join and participate. To post a message to the List, simple send an
email to the following address:
lom-list(at)matronics.com
Your message will be redistributed to everyone on the List.
Again, I apologize for the delay in setting this list up for Jim. I just
totally spaced it.
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin.
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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| From: | Jeayers1(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: New LOM Email Forum At Matronics... |
Hi Matt,
Thanks for setting this up.
I have the FuelChek system in my RV-3 with the return fuel flow sensor on the return
line from the engine. As you suggested, I disconnected the return flow
sensor to see what the gross fuel flow was to the LOM engine. It was 16 gph.
So when I have 5 gph being used by the LOM, 11 gph is being returned to the fuel
tank.
Jim Ayers
RV-3 N47RV sn50 LOM M332A with automatic mixture control
MT 3 blade electric CS propeller
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| From: | Jeayers1(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | LOM M332 fuel flow? |
Hi All,
Just curious what power setting and fuel flow is normally used?
I changed from the manual mixture control to an automatic mixture control, and
don't have it set up properly. Running too rich based on the black exhaust.
I nomally cruise at 2400 RPM. Unfortunetly, I only remember that with 16.3" MP
(full throttle) at 17,500' (-4 degree C oat) the fuel flow was 5.5 gph. The
performance graphs indicate about 42 hp for between 3 to 3.5 gph.
I'll be getting some new numbers at lower altitudes in the next couple days.
Jim Ayers
RV-3 N47RV LOM M332A
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| From: | Jeayers1(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | New USA LOM dealer? |
Hi All,
A couple friends of mine told me there was a new USA dealer for the LOM
engine at Oshkosh. However, I couldn't find them where I was told they were
located.
They thought the new dealer was from Oregon.
Anyone know anything about this?
Jim Ayers
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| From: | Jeayers1(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Oil in exhaust pipe |
Hi All,
I visited a high wing homebuilt with a LOM M332C installed on my way back
from Oshkosh.
He had oil seeping out of the slip joints in the exhaust pipes.
In comparing his LOM installation with my RV-3 LOM installation and comparing
various symptoms, he removed the cam case oil drain plug from his cold
engine. The cam case was filled with FUEL and oil. The fuel pump oil cavity also
had fuel in it.
If he had checked these areas after running the engine to warm the oil, he
wouldn't have seen the fuel in these two areas.
The check valve in his fuel return line apparently wasn't working properly,
because there was fuel pressure from the fuel tank to the fuel pump on the
return line side only. However, leaving the fuel valve ON would also cause the
fuel tank head pressure to continuously be at the fuel pump.
He knew of one other high wing homebuilt with the same oil leakage at the
exhaust slip joints. In talking to other high wing homebuilt owners with the LOM
installation, I found another one.
My RV-3 has four individual exhaust pipes. It is a low wing homebuilt, so it
won't have the head pressure in the supply or return fuel lines. It has the
oil valve installed in the engine. I do not have any oil leakage from the
exhaust pipes.
It does seem to me that diluting the oil with fuel is a very bad thing to
happen.
Jim Ayers
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| From: | Jeayers1(at)aol.com |
Hello Milos,
Fuel can leak through the fuel pump into the engine oil on engine
installations in high wing aircraft or aircraft with header tanks.
The header pressure of the fuel into the fuel pump from either the fuel
supply line or the return line causes fuel to leak through the fuel pump into the
engine oil.
On a high wing aircraft that had been setting for two weeks, the large fill
port plug was removed from the oil cavity of the fuel pump. Fuel was observed
to flow out of the oil cavity.
The cam case drain plug was removed to drain the oil, and three quarts of
fuel and oil was drained from the cam case.
If the engine had been run prior to this inspection, the fuel contamination
would not have been observed.
A symptom of this problem could be oil leaking out of the exhaust pipe, and
oil at the slip joints in the exhaust pipe. Unfortunately, the same symptom
would occur from a leaking oil valve.
Fuel in the oil side of the fuel pump would be a direct method of observing
the problem.
I have not seen this problem on my RV-3. A low wing design without a header
tank.
Best Regards,
Jim Ayers
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| From: | Jeayers1(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | LOM engine parts order |
Hi All,
I need to order a few parts for my LOM engine.
Does anyone need any parts for their LOM engine?
I believe a combined order from all of us will get delivered quicker than an
individual order.
Let me know if you are interested.
Jim Ayers
RV-3 N47RV LOM M332A engine
jeayers1(at)aol.com
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| From: | "Vaso Bovan" <vbovan(at)xtra.co.nz> |
| Subject: | M332CE Revives LOM Fortunes ? |
Like a lot of builders, I looked carefully at the LOM M332B for my Glastar,
as a competitor to Lycoming 320 and other engines in the 160hp class. In the
end, I decided the M332B was really a 140hp engine, and LOM was just not
responsive to North American prospective customers. Among anachronisms of
the M332 was the generator (as opposed to alternator), a supercharger handle
that was more suited to a Hoyt-Clagwell farm tractor, and - most
disappointing of all - a low compression ratio meant for 3rd world countries
that didn't have 100LL gasoline. 10hp+ was thrown away needlessly by the low
compression ratio.
Well, it seems that the factory has listened - 5yrs too late but better late
than. The recently-introduced M332CE has increased compression ratio -
7.4:1 vs 6.3:1. The rating is 170hp, but at an anti-social 3000rpm, so
perhaps the M332CE should really be called a true 160hp engine.
Does anyone know how and why the M332CE was introduced, and whether the
M332B has been discontinued altogether - or just discontinued from the North
American market ?
I'm interested to hear thoughts about whether this new M332CE engine makes
LOM a real competitor to the Lycoming 320 - or does the M332CE arrive too
late in the game just as other engine alternatives are becoming available,
such as the XP-320. Seems to me the M332B was a perfect engine for tandem
(small cross-section) aircraft, but I'm curious whether there is a direct
performance comparison between the Lycoming 160hp "IO"-320 and the
M332B/(CE) on a wider airframe such as the Glastar.
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| From: | Jeayers1(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: M332CE Revives LOM Fortunes ? |
Hi All,
2800 RPM is probably a practical limit for propeller RPM. An MT propeller
can be used to 2800 RPM.
According to LOM's performance chart, the LOM M332CE has about 155 hp at 2800
RPM with the supercharger engaged at sea level. So it seems to be fairly
close to the 160 hp output of the Lyc. 320.
I have looked at, and taken some measurements, from the Glastar cowl with a
LOM engine.
I am comparing this information with the cowl on my RV-3 with the LOM engine
and some Email discussions I've had recently with the NemesisNXT cooling
expert on my LOM cooling issues.
Basic observations:
The Glastar cowl inlet is approximately 7 x 10 inch oval with around 60 sq.
in. of inlet area.
The LOM engine inlet has about 52 sq. in of inlet area.
My RV-3 cowl has 25 sq. in of inlet area. I only have a cylinder head
temperature probe on cylinder #3. The cylinder head temperature only goes to the
top of the green arc on an extended climb.
The Glastar cowl exit ends just in front of the firewall.
According to the NemesisNXT expert, the exit air has a vertical velocity as
it leaves the cowl. If this has a high enough vertical velocity, it stalls the
airflow on the bottom of the fuselage.
When the cowl is trimmed for the HR2, the bottom portion below the fuselage
is not trimmed. This forms a tunnel along the bottom of the fuselage to direct
the exit air.
I am going to extend the bottom of the cowl on my RV-3 by about 2 inches to
improve the cowl exit air. This could be done on the Glastar cowl, also.
On my RV-3, using the oil tank as an oil cooler has not been adequate,
especially during the summer. I have added three small air inlets in the front
of
the cowl to provide additional air along the engine case. And I added an air
hose directed at the oil tank from the engine baffle. I can only climb to
around 11,500' before the oil temperature reaches the end of the green arc. (In
cruise, it drops about 10 degrees C.)
It seems to me that the engine and oil cooling for the LOM engine has not
been refined to the same level that has already been done for the Lycoming
installations.
Jim Ayers
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| From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
| Subject: | New SPAM and Virus Filtering Appliance At Matronics... |
Dear Listers,
I will be installing a new SPAM and virus blocking appliance this
evening or tomorrow. The installation will involve some changes
in the Matronics DNS MX records, and will impact how incoming
email is handled. While I expect these changes to be transparent
to all of the List subscribers, things might go differently... ;-)
The Lists get bombarded with tons of SPAM messages and viruses
each day and fortunately my custom filters have been extremely
effective at filtering most of this from redistribution. Its
time to move to the next level of technology, however, and this
SPAM and Virus filtering appliance seems like an excellent
solution.
I will post a follow up message later in the week when things
have stabilized and I have some filter statistics to share.
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin.
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| From: | Jeayers1(at)aol.com |
In a message dated 09/16/2003 12:35:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
milospaclt(at)volny.cz writes:
Hello Jim,
if I understood well, yoe were described me the possible problem with fuel in
the oil on the high wing aircraft not problem on your aircraft. I see you
returned from OSC without problems.
I am also back at work and busy again.
Best regards
Milos
Hello Milos,
I described the actual problem on one aircraft.
I found three more aircraft with the same symptoms that could have the actual
problem.
And I have now found one additional high wing aircraft installation that
doesn't allow the fuel pump flow through to occur, if the fuel valves are turned
off.
Best Regards,
Jim Ayers
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [Please Read] SPAM Filter Could Be Causing Posting Problems |
For Some Members...?
Dear Listers,
Matronics is now utilizing a SPAM filter appliance to filter out the
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reviewing the logfiles, it would appear to be true. That is indeed great!
While the Lists are enjoying the breath of fresh air afforded by the new
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If you suspect that your posts are accidently being blocked by the SPAM
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Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics EMail List Administrator
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | All New Matronics Email List Online Chat!!! |
Hi Listers!
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Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin
PS - I'm working on a web link interface to the chat logfiles. Coming soon...
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | 2003 List Fund Raiser - Please Support Your Lists... |
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | List Fund Raiser - Wow, Have You Seen The Free Gifts? |
Dear Listers,
The List Fund Raiser is going well so far this year and I wanted to say
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http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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| From: | Jeayers1(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | LOM reorganization |
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| From: | Jeayers1(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | LOM reorganization - 2nd try |
Hi All,
Just a brief comment on the LOM reorganization.
10/13/2002
LOM Company is merged with another two companies, LOK and VT=DAL.
New general director is Mr. ing. Vratislav M=E1slo and the director of Aviation
technique division is Mr. ing. Milan Hrdina who has the same phone/fax
connections as former director Zasadil.
11/07/2003
The new management did not published any new details on the restructuring of
those 3 merged companies - LOM, LOK ant VT=DAL. Some news is expected by the end
of November.
Is anyone received any responses back from LOM in the last month?
I have asked both business and technical questions with no response to
either. I know two other LOM owners have not received any communications from LOM
since the new management change.
I'm gradually getting a parts order together to go to LOM. If you need
maintenance parts, or replacement parts, please contact me directly. I'm trying
to
make this combined order to get a quicker shipment. (Assuming LOM will respond
at all.)
Jim Ayers
jeayers1(at)aol.com
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| From: | Jeayers1(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | LOM technical response |
Hi All,
Now that I got the previous text corrected and out (hopefully), I received an
answer back on my technical question.
Still looking for any additional parts needed. I have enough now to send in
an order, but don't want to miss anyone that is interested.
BTW, I am not a dealer. I will try to get the best price available, and pass
it on. My hope is that this will expedite the delivery.
Jim Ayers
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
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| Subject: | What Listers Are Saying III |
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Jeayers1(at)aol.com |
Hi All,
I sent the following to Charlie Becker at EAA. If you have any concerns
about LOM, you might send something to him, also.
cbecker(at)eaa.org
Hopefully he will be able to find a way to communicate with LOM.
Jim Ayers
22 December 2003
From:
James E. Ayers
EAA # 82685
EAA Tech Counselor and Flight Advisor
To:
Charlie Becker
Subject: LOM engine support?
Good Morning Mr. Becker,
I am concerned about the availability of maintenance and repair parts for my
LOM engine.
I purchased my engine directly from the LOM factory. I placed a
maintenance/spare parts order on 30 November 2003 for more than $500 USD per the
LOM
factory representatives, Frantisek Tizek, request.
I added part numbers to the description on two items and added two items on 8
December 2003.
I addressed this to Frantisek Tizek by Email. I also asked Milos Paclt
(technical support) and the director of Aviation technique division, Mr. ing. Milan
Hrdina, for their assistance with this order.
I have tried to locate these parts from Moravia, Nick Carter, Joe Krybus and
Rick Schneider. All previous LOM distributors. (Rick Schneider had signed
his agreement with LOM at Oshkosh this year.)
I have also contacted friends in Germany who provided contacts in Czech
Republic in an attempt to locate these parts.
I have been in contact with LOM for eight years. I went to their factory
engine class at Prague, Czech Republic, in November 2002. My impression of the
LOM company is that it sells engines so the three factory mechanics can travel
worldwide to repair them at their convenience. Every effort is made to NOT
provide maintenance parts, or proper maintenance documentation.
The LOM Company has just been merged with two other companies. My concern is
that this maintenance support parts and documentation situation is only going
to get worse.
Can you please find some avenue of communication with LOM engine manufacturer
to express my concern about being able to operate my LOM engine in the
future? And to be able to SAFELY operate the engine now.
Sincerely,
Jim Ayers
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Rudy Kniese" <crkaviator(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Re: LOM concerns |
Hello everyone,
Rudy Kniese here, not sure if I am doing this right, but wanted to piggy
back on Jim's note.
If you are an owner of a LOM engine and have been "lucky" enough not to have
any mechanical issues or parts issues you are blessed. Be sure that if you
haven't experienced the poor customer service that LOM attempts to offer be
sure you will at some time, and be prepared to be grounded for months at a
time!
It is imperative that we all take advantage at this time, since we have the
ear of someone, Charlie Becker, at EAA that may be able to act as an
advocate on our behalf. If we ever can expect to run these engines with
the least bit of confidence, we must get LOM to service their product!!
Please , please take an opportunity and contact Charlie and let him know if
you have experience's of poor service like Jim and I have had. It takes
more than a couple of complainants to make a just case!
I also have attached my letter to Charlie describing my recent events over
the past six months regarding a leaky propeller, one that has been leaking
for 2 years!
Unfortunately my personal experience with this product has been one that I
would not wish on anybody, and I have bastardized my Glastar with this
product. At the least I hope to stop anyone else from making the same
mistake.
Regards to all and Happy Holidays,
C. Rudy Kniese
----- Original Message -----
From: <Jeayers1(at)aol.com>
Subject: Lom-List: LOM concerns
>
> Hi All,
>
> I sent the following to Charlie Becker at EAA. If you have any concerns
> about LOM, you might send something to him, also.
>
> cbecker(at)eaa.org
>
> Hopefully he will be able to find a way to communicate with LOM.
>
> Jim Ayers
>
>
> 22 December 2003
>
> From:
> James E. Ayers
> EAA # 82685
> EAA Tech Counselor and Flight Advisor
>
> To:
> Charlie Becker
>
> Subject: LOM engine support?
>
> Good Morning Mr. Becker,
>
> I am concerned about the availability of maintenance and repair parts for
my
> LOM engine.
> I purchased my engine directly from the LOM factory. I placed a
> maintenance/spare parts order on 30 November 2003 for more than $500 USD
per the LOM
> factory representatives, Frantisek Tizek, request.
> I added part numbers to the description on two items and added two items
on 8
> December 2003.
>
> I addressed this to Frantisek Tizek by Email. I also asked Milos Paclt
> (technical support) and the director of Aviation technique division, Mr.
ing. Milan
> Hrdina, for their assistance with this order.
>
> I have tried to locate these parts from Moravia, Nick Carter, Joe Krybus
and
> Rick Schneider. All previous LOM distributors. (Rick Schneider had
signed
> his agreement with LOM at Oshkosh this year.)
>
> I have also contacted friends in Germany who provided contacts in Czech
> Republic in an attempt to locate these parts.
>
> I have been in contact with LOM for eight years. I went to their factory
> engine class at Prague, Czech Republic, in November 2002. My impression
of the
> LOM company is that it sells engines so the three factory mechanics can
travel
> worldwide to repair them at their convenience. Every effort is made to
NOT
> provide maintenance parts, or proper maintenance documentation.
>
> The LOM Company has just been merged with two other companies. My concern
is
> that this maintenance support parts and documentation situation is only
going
> to get worse.
>
> Can you please find some avenue of communication with LOM engine
manufacturer
> to express my concern about being able to operate my LOM engine in the
> future? And to be able to SAFELY operate the engine now.
>
> Sincerely,
> Jim Ayers
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Rudy Kniese" <crkaviator(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Re: LOM concerns |
Hello again,
Apparently attachments don't work, so here is a cut and paste of the letter
I previously mentioned that I had sent to Charlie Becker:
December 20, 2003
Re: LOM Engine / Propeller Issues
Dear Mr. Becker:
First, again I would like to thank you for your time on the phone the other
day and in advance thank you for providing any assistance that you may be
able to in terms of resolving my outstanding issues with LOM.
As per your request I am providing a written request for your assistance
regarding the plight that I have been experiencing for now over two years
with LOM.
The issue at present is that I have a leaky propeller (V541) that has leaked
from the onset of my first start of my engine on February 2nd 2001. It has
been leaking oil from the hub since my first flight on November 2nd 2001.
The larger issue is that I (we, other customers) have installed an engine
that is unserviceable in this country due to the lack of an American
Distributor and LOM's lack of performance regarding customer care. Parts
seem to be unobtainable and when and if you secure a part it takes months
not days for that part to arrive!
Back to issue at hand:
I performed all the work requested by Milos Paclt (Czech chief engineer)
over the year 2001 and 2002 with no solution. LOM finally agreed to accept
my propeller back for service in January of this year. This repair was
supposed to be accomplished in 30 days and it took almost 3 months. Upon
arrival back and re-installation the propeller continued to leak. I was put
in contact with the Director Vladamir Zasidil whom did take up my cause and
sent Milos Paclt out for a service visit. Milos worked on my propeller for
a better part of 1 week and made a piston exchange to the model "C" as part
of my condolence package for all that I had been through. At the conclusion
of his visit the propeller still showed signs of leakage on blade two, and
blade one appeared dry on ground runs. It was agreed that I would fly the
aircraft for a period of 10 hours allowing the seals to seat better which in
Milos' opinion would solve the problem. Upon the completion of 10 hours
blade two got worse and now over extended time blade one has started to leak
again. This leak allows oil to coat the windscreen and over time provides a
nice lubrication to all leading edges!
Mr. Zasidil made a 2nd resolution to me: (email expert received 6-25-03)
Dear Kniese,
> we are very sorry for permanent leaking of oil on your propeller.
> Appreciate your patience with this problem. Our solution of problem is
> following: We agree to take the propeller back and give you the same
> amount of money which LOM got when prop. was sold from company.
> If you prefer to get new propeller, instead payment, we can send you
> the new prop. V541.
> Send us your choice please, which way is more suitable for you.
> Best regards
> Vladimir Zasadil
> LOM Praha
The following is an email excerpt regarding my decision and Vladimir's
response, to get this far took a while due to lack of responses in a timely
manner on questions regarding parts and shipments and attainability of
person in Prague due to out of town obligations etc.
From: Rudy Kniese [mailto:crkaviator(at)earthlink.net]
Subject: Propeller Decision
Hello Vladimir,
I am assuming you are back from OSHKOSH, I hope your trip went well.
I am writing to convey my decision on returning my V541 Propeller back to
LOM for a refund of $6,000.00.
I am in final phases of confirming a replacement of an MT propeller for my
airplane with an electric constant speed. This will remove all the
suspected oil problems. I am awaiting shipment time frames and I am hoping
you will allow me to use my existing propeller until the new one arrives.
Please write and let me know of the process we will need to follow for
return shipment and payment.
Thanks in advance for all of you assistance thus far.
Sincerely,
C. Rudy Kniese
Answer:
Hello Rudy,
to use your existing propeller until the new one arrives is possible.
Then you will agree the shipping and payments with Mr. Tzek from our
commercial
departement.
I shall happy if I may know your experience with your new MT propeller.
Best regards
Vl. Zasadil
Since this time I have made several requests for parts that would be needed
to make the exchange and install a new MT propeller that was ordered. I
have received no responses or shipments sent. Another relevant fact now is
that LOM apparently has gone through some sort of re-organization and
Vladimir Zasidil may no longer be there. I am not even sure about Milos
Paclt, since I have not received any responses from him either. The
following are email transmissions trying to obtain those parts:
1st Request to Zasidil:
----- Original Message -----
From: Rudy Kniese
Hello Mr. Zasadil,
It seems the time is approaching to make the return of the V541 back to LOM
and I would like to get some loose ends tied up so to speak. Would you be
kind enough to answer these questions as soon as you can.
1- Will LOM arrange the shipment of the propeller back to the factory as we
did in January for the repair?
2- How exactly will you send my refund of $6,000 USD. I am assuming you
will not send until you get the propeller back.
3 -If this is the case how soon and how will you send the refund. I will be
out of pocket some monies to replace this propeller with a new MT. Would it
be at all possible to have half sent before to help me with this and then
the balance sent upon receipt of the propeller. Mt is cutting my blades now
and delivery is tentative for the end of the month beginning of November.
4- I have received information from Milos about some parts I will need to
make the change from the V541 to the MT, due to the removal of the V541.
Here was his list.
You need following parts:
Sh 0401 Flange
Sh 4016 Lid of front bearing including Gufero ring
Sc 4008 A,B,C paper gasket
Govenor flange lid
I need to know if these will be included in the exchange back. I am under
the assumption these parts would have come standard with the engine had I
not chosen the V541 propeller.
Milos asked me to make a request to Mrs. Voskova for these parts. I will be
in need of these to make the replacement. Anything you can do to expedite
this delivery would greatly be appreciated.
Mr. Zasidil, as always thanks for your assistance,
Rudy K.
2nd Request sent to Virginia: (included copy of above email)
----- Original Message -----
From: Rudy Kniese
Subject: parts and return information
Hello Jirina Voskova
I sent the attached email to Zasadil as you can see on October 13th, I have
heard through the grapevine that Zasidil may no longer be there.
Can you assist with my questions and provide the information requested??
If not please put in touch with someone that can assist.
Thanks in advance,
Rudy
3rd Request sent to Milos - Sent 11-18-03
Hello Milos,
I am need of your assistance again. It seems lOM has recently dropped into
a black hole!???
Attached are emails that I have sent inquiring on my propeller return and I
have received no answers or parts.
Can you please assist in some way?
Please respond back as soon as possible.
Hope your family is well.
See ya,
Rudy
This brings me to the last communication I have received. It was a fax
from a Julius Ohrival, title chief of sale piston engines. I do not know
this person and have had no knowledge or contact with him before this. Since
it was a fax, I will paraphrase its content: He acknowledged my situation,
but informed me that my resolution needed to be reviewed by the new
management at LOM and requested continued patience. I received his fax on
December 5th and faxed him back on December 7th requesting email information
and information on the parts needed to make exchange and installation. I
have received no response from that fax. Now almost two weeks have passed.
This is pretty typical and why it takes sooooo long to try to get anything
accomplished, meanwhile planes may remain grounded or problems go unsolved.
Charlie, there has been one other communication that I sent, I finally lost
all of my patience when I was sent a fax inquiring about an overdue invoice
for a part I ordered back in 2001. There is a long story with this also, I
have attached that letter for your information, unfortunately it is not as
polite as all my other correspondence, and to this date it has not received
a response either. I include this as a separate attachment and just so you
have all communications that have transpired.
To summarize, I had requested from Zasidil a complete return for a refund of
both the engine and propeller, due to the lack of performance and the
un-serviceability of the engine here in the states. They would only offer
me $1400.00 for the engine, their basic published core charge, and the deal
they offered on the propeller; since they felt there was nothing wrong with
the engine. Excerpt from email from this request:
Dear Mr. Kniese,
Please excause me you had waiting my response to your e-mail from June 25.
I sent my response to you at 7:02 hrs today. The reason is my trip last
week.
Now, July 3, hrs 9:18 I received next e-mail from you. Let me send you my
answer
to your questions:
1. This is one extremely question, because of only the prop has an problem
and this one can be removed. However, in such case there are possibility
back to you the price, which you had pay for prop plus of M332CE engine
price "core" ($ 1 400).
2. For the answer see my e-mail 7:02 today.
3. Dtto.
Sincerely
Vl. Zasadil
I would be satisfied if you could get the following resolution:
Resolution:
1 - I would like as soon as possible the parts needed to make the
installation of the MT propeller shipped.
2 - The details worked out for me to return my V541 propeller, freight paid
by LOM and my $6,000.00 USD refunded prior to shipment within the next 30
days.
3 - For LOM to service the product they sell and provide parts and
assistance to its US customers in a timely and efficient manner. Days not
months!!!
4- For LOM to provide an overhaul manual to its US customers
Charlie, thanks in advance for your time attention in this matter. If you
require any additional information please contact me directly. I have two
years worth of correspondence, but tried to keep only what is relevant to
the issue at hand.
Regards,
C. Rudy Kniese
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rudy Kniese" <crkaviator(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Lom-List: LOM concerns
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> Rudy Kniese here, not sure if I am doing this right, but wanted to piggy
> back on Jim's note.
>
> If you are an owner of a LOM engine and have been "lucky" enough not to
have
> any mechanical issues or parts issues you are blessed. Be sure that if
you
> haven't experienced the poor customer service that LOM attempts to offer
be
> sure you will at some time, and be prepared to be grounded for months at a
> time!
>
> It is imperative that we all take advantage at this time, since we have
the
> ear of someone, Charlie Becker, at EAA that may be able to act as an
> advocate on our behalf. If we ever can expect to run these engines with
> the least bit of confidence, we must get LOM to service their product!!
>
> Please , please take an opportunity and contact Charlie and let him know
if
> you have experience's of poor service like Jim and I have had. It takes
> more than a couple of complainants to make a just case!
>
> I also have attached my letter to Charlie describing my recent events over
> the past six months regarding a leaky propeller, one that has been leaking
> for 2 years!
>
> Unfortunately my personal experience with this product has been one that I
> would not wish on anybody, and I have bastardized my Glastar with this
> product. At the least I hope to stop anyone else from making the same
> mistake.
>
> Regards to all and Happy Holidays,
>
> C. Rudy Kniese
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Jeayers1(at)aol.com>
> To:
> Subject: Lom-List: LOM concerns
>
>
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I sent the following to Charlie Becker at EAA. If you have any concerns
> > about LOM, you might send something to him, also.
> >
> > cbecker(at)eaa.org
> >
> > Hopefully he will be able to find a way to communicate with LOM.
> >
> > Jim Ayers
> >
> >
> > 22 December 2003
> >
> > From:
> > James E. Ayers
> > EAA # 82685
> > EAA Tech Counselor and Flight Advisor
> >
> > To:
> > Charlie Becker
> >
> > Subject: LOM engine support?
> >
> > Good Morning Mr. Becker,
> >
> > I am concerned about the availability of maintenance and repair parts
for
> my
> > LOM engine.
> > I purchased my engine directly from the LOM factory. I placed a
> > maintenance/spare parts order on 30 November 2003 for more than $500 USD
> per the LOM
> > factory representatives, Frantisek Tizek, request.
> > I added part numbers to the description on two items and added two items
> on 8
> > December 2003.
> >
> > I addressed this to Frantisek Tizek by Email. I also asked Milos Paclt
> > (technical support) and the director of Aviation technique division, Mr.
> ing. Milan
> > Hrdina, for their assistance with this order.
> >
> > I have tried to locate these parts from Moravia, Nick Carter, Joe Krybus
> and
> > Rick Schneider. All previous LOM distributors. (Rick Schneider had
> signed
> > his agreement with LOM at Oshkosh this year.)
> >
> > I have also contacted friends in Germany who provided contacts in Czech
> > Republic in an attempt to locate these parts.
> >
> > I have been in contact with LOM for eight years. I went to their
factory
> > engine class at Prague, Czech Republic, in November 2002. My impression
> of the
> > LOM company is that it sells engines so the three factory mechanics can
> travel
> > worldwide to repair them at their convenience. Every effort is made to
> NOT
> > provide maintenance parts, or proper maintenance documentation.
> >
> > The LOM Company has just been merged with two other companies. My
concern
> is
> > that this maintenance support parts and documentation situation is only
> going
> > to get worse.
> >
> > Can you please find some avenue of communication with LOM engine
> manufacturer
> > to express my concern about being able to operate my LOM engine in the
> > future? And to be able to SAFELY operate the engine now.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Jim Ayers
> >
> >
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
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| From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
DNA: not not archive
| Subject: | [PLEASE READ] Virus Laden Spam Purports To Be From Matronics... |
Dear Listers,
First let me say that I normally don't condone the sharing of warnings
about Internet viruses on the Matronics Email Lists. I don't want to
start a storm of discussion regarding computer viruses on the Lists, so
please just note the information below and refrain from commenting to
the List. The circumstances I describe below are disturbing enough
that I felt an explanation is necessary. That being said...
There is a new email-bourne virus running rampant on the Internet that
is cleverly disguising itself as legitimate email warning of such
things as:
"your email account is disabled because of unauthorized access"
"Some of our clients complained about the spam (negative e-mail
content) outgoing from your e-mail account"
"Probably, you have been infected by a proxy-relay trojan server. In
order to keep your computer safe, follow the instructions."
"Our main mailing server will be temporary unavailable for next two
days, to continue receiving mail in these days you have to
configure our free auto-forwarding service."
All of these messages include an attachment that you are instructed to
click upon to "Get more information", "clean the virus from your
system", or "check your system for infections".
These enclosures all contain a virus that will infect your system and
propagate even more copies of the original message.
The disturbing part of these messages is that they appear to be coming
from very legitimate addresses and have very legitimate, convincing
dialog. For example, I have received a number of them today that
appear to be from "support(at)matronics.com", "management(at)matronics.com",
"administration(at)matronics.com", and "staff(at)matronics.com".
The text of the messages seems believable enough, and given the forged
source address, seem even more legitimate.
Please be assured that no one at Matronics.com will be sending you
these kinds of messages. If you receive one, it is a spam/virus that
has forged headers and was sent to you from someone other than
Matronics. Delete the message and the attachment promptly. Invest in
a copy of Norton Antivirus and keep the definitions up dated on a daily
basis.
Again, I want to stress that I *DO NOT* want a big discussion of
viruses on the Matronics Email Lists. Please do not reply to this
email with any comments. You may write to me directly at
dralle(at)matronics.com if you wish, but do not include the List.
Since many of these appear to come from matronics.com, I wanted to
assure everyone that Matronics wasn't the real source of these messages.
Let's be careful out there and keep those virus definitions up to date!
Today alone, the Matronics spam filter and virus blocking appliance
has filtered out 11,550 spam messages and 375 viruses! That's just in
an 18 hour period!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Jeayers1(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | MT Proeller Sale |
First Annual MT Propeller Sale!
Anyone interested in buying a new MT Propeller?
Tell me what you engine and aircraft you want it for, and I'll provide a
quote.
Jim Ayers
Less Drag Products, Inc.
MT Propeller Certified Assembly
jim(at)lessdrag.com
805-795-5377
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Lister Comments - Please Support The Lists |
Dear Listers,
Wow! People have been including some very nice comments along with their
Contributions lately! I've included another set of below and will send
another set in a couple of days.
Guys, I really appreciate your kind words and support. In the last few
days, the contributions have really started to come in and its looking like
support this year may slightly surpass last year's. There's still a few
days left in this year's Fund Raiser, so if you've been waiting until the
last minute to make your Contribution, now's the time!
Make Your Contribution Today: http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
----------------- More of What Listers Are Saying... --------------------
Every morning 5:30 am, coffee and the "List". It's how I start my day.
Robert G.
The list is still my favorite aviation magazine.
Roger H.
Great resource, without the distraction of pop ups and ads!
Douglas D.
I look forward to my daily list reading almost as much as my coffee!
Hal K.
Great service!
Aaron G.
I have made some great friends, because of it!
Bob D.
Great resource!!
Richard S.
I learn something of value every time I read the messages.
Stan S.
Great list!
Thomas E.
Now that I am close to completion of my [homebuilt], I look back
and wonder how I could ever have made it this far without [the Lists].
Jeff O.
Outstanding site and administration.
Anthony S.
Great forum for our projects.
Darrel M.
I have become a List Addict!
George M.
A very helpful resource for me.
Dennis K.
Great for staying up on the latest.
Forrest L.
Valuable benefit for the users.
George A.
Great tool for all [builders].
Tony M.
Can't tell you how much I appreciate the archives.
Ken B.
I really enjoy the sharing of information and the "discussions" that come up.
Ross S.
[The List] reminds us home builders that help is just a few clicks away.
Danny W.
A great resource!
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Always a pleasure to support this list!
Richard W.
Thanks for helping all of us build better aircraft.
John P.
Great list(s)for data, info and making friends.
John S.
[The] List has helped me much with my building process.
Raimo T.
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "coolmate_04(at)cashette.com" <no-reply(at)cashette.com> |
| Subject: | Re: List of Contributors Coming Soon! |
Dear Friend:
Thank you for your email. Your message has not reached my Inbox because you are
not yet on my Approved List. To reach my Inbox, please click on this link. When
I respond to your message, you will be automatically added to my Approved List!
Warm regards,
coolmate_04(at)cashette.com
__________________________
Note from Cashette:
If you don't see any link above, copy and paste the link below to your browser:
http://home.cashette.com/myCashette/newUser.do?ms=dralle%40matronics.com&mr=coolmate_04%40cashette.com&rid=coolmate_04&name=Matt+Dralle&sec=yU%2BS&dt=1101757047127
If you are a business, click Business.
-----Original Message:-----
From: Matt Dralle dralle(at)matronics.com
Subject: Lom-List: List of Contributors Coming Soon!
__________________________
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| From: | "coolmate_04(at)cashette.com" <no-reply(at)cashette.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Lom-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 11/28/04 |
Dear Friend:
Thank you for your email. Your message has not reached my Inbox because you are
not yet on my Approved List. To reach my Inbox, please click on this link. When
I respond to your message, you will be automatically added to my Approved List!
Warm regards,
coolmate_04(at)cashette.com
__________________________
Note from Cashette:
If you don't see any link above, copy and paste the link below to your browser:
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If you are a business, click Business.
-----Original Message:-----
From: Lom-List Digest Server lom-list-digest(at)matronics.com
Subject: Lom-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 11/28/04
__________________________
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________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
| Subject: | [PLEASE READ NOW] - Addressing Upgrade At Matronics TONIGHT! |
Dear Listers,
Service Provider to upgrade to a larger IP subnet. I will be
re-addressing all of the machines on the network including the
Matronics Web Server and Matronics Email Server at that time. Name
Service will be updated at that time as well and most things should
work again pretty quick. There may be some bounced email for a few hours
or even a day or so as the new name-to-ip-address resolutions propagate
into the depths of the Internet.
If you have problems posting a message to one of the Lists or get a
bounced message back, please wait a couple of hours and try sending it
again. Generally, access to the web site should work within 1-hour of
Hopefully the transition will go smoothly and you'll hardly even
notice! :-)
Thanks for your patience!
Matt Dralle
List Administrator
--
Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Abbott" <pickenspilot(at)earthlink.net> |
For engine parts & tech help contact:
pavel.novak(at)sympatico.ca He is honest, knowledgeable, and fun!
Dave
--- Dave & Peggy Abbott
--- 190 Duck Pond Ln
Pickens, SC 29671
--- (864) 878-8134
--- pickenspilot(at)earthlink.net
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [Please Read] Matronics Email Server Upgrade... |
Dear Listers,
I will be upgrading the Matronics Email Server this weekend. This includes
some hardware improvements - more memory, faster, more capable processors -
as well as a complete operating system upgrade from scratch. I hope to
have both the old system and the new system running at the same time to
minimize the actual impact of the upgrade.
Hopefully there will be little actual downtime during the transition, but a
few posts may get lost in the shuffle. If you don't see your post show up
on the List in the normal amount of time (plus a little bit), then please
just try posting it again.
Upgrading the Matronics Email Server operating system (from Redhat Linux
7.2 to Redhat Linux WS 4) is a sizeable undertaking and requires a great
deal of work to port all of the utilities, programs, and scripts over to
the new system. As I've already mentioned, both the old and new systems
will be on line at the same time, so interruption should be held to an
absolute minimal. You might see a couple of odd test messages during the
cut-over or other odd messages; please just ignore them.
I have setup a new System Status Web Page that I will use to update List
Members on the current status of the email and web systems. Please refer
to it as often as you like:
http://www.matronics.com/SystemStatus/
Thank you for your continued support of the List Services at
Matronics! Its your yearly Contributions that make these major upgrades
possible!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [Please Read] Matronics Email Server Upgrade Complete! |
Dear Listers,
The upgrade of the Matronics Email Server can be considered complete at
this time. All known issues related to the upgrade process have been
resolved and email services are running normal. The Nightly Digest
processing has not yet been tested and will wait for tonight's update.
If you encounter any odd behavior with respect to the Matronics Email
Server over the next few days, please contact me via email at
dralle(at)matronics.com or if that fails try dralle(at)speakeasy.net.
Thanks to everyone for being patient through this arduous process of a
major system upgrade!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
At 12:37 PM 4/16/2005 Saturday, Matt Dralle wrote:
>Dear Listers,
>
>I will be upgrading the Matronics Email Server this weekend. This
>includes some hardware improvements - more memory, faster, more capable
>processors - as well as a complete operating system upgrade from
>scratch. I hope to have both the old system and the new system running at
>the same time to minimize the actual impact of the upgrade.
>
>Hopefully there will be little actual downtime during the transition, but
>a few posts may get lost in the shuffle. If you don't see your post show
>up on the List in the normal amount of time (plus a little bit), then
>please just try posting it again.
>
>Upgrading the Matronics Email Server operating system (from Redhat Linux
>7.2 to Redhat Linux WS 4) is a sizeable undertaking and requires a great
>deal of work to port all of the utilities, programs, and scripts over to
>the new system. As I've already mentioned, both the old and new systems
>will be on line at the same time, so interruption should be held to an
>absolute minimal. You might see a couple of odd test messages during the
>cut-over or other odd messages; please just ignore them.
>
>I have setup a new System Status Web Page that I will use to update List
>Members on the current status of the email and web systems. Please refer
>to it as often as you like:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/SystemStatus/
>
>
>Thank you for your continued support of the List Services at
>Matronics! Its your yearly Contributions that make these major upgrades
>possible!
>
>Best regards,
>
>Matt Dralle
>Matronics Email List Administrator
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | List Digest Truncation Fixed!! |
Dear Listers,
I finally figured out today what was causing the occasional
truncation of the daily List Digest emails. Seems that every once in
a while a message would contain a single "." (period) on line all by
itself. The mailers would see this and assume that this was the
universal emailer signal for "end of message", and consequently
wouldn't process any of the rest of the Digest message.
I've put in a filter today to remove any of these sequences so we
should be back in business on the Digests.
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin.
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Dear Listers,
I will be taking the Matronics Web Server down for a few hours today,
Tuesday September 6 2005 for a chassis upgrade. Archive browsing and
searching along with subscription services will be unavailable for
be processed normally during the upgrade. Please check the Matronics
System Status Page for updates (although this page resides on the web
server and won't be available during the upgrade):
http://www.matronics.com/SystemStatus/
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin.
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | All New BBS Interface For Matronics List Forums! |
Dear Listers,
I'm very proud to announce a completely new BBS interface is now available for
all of the Email Lists at Matronics! This is a full-featured system that allows
for viewing, posting, attachments, polls - the works.
But the best part is that it is *completely* integrated with all of the existing
email tools currently available at Matronics! What this means at the most basic
level is that, if you post a message to List from Email in the traditional
way, it will show up on the BBS system *and* get distributed to everyone currently
subscribed to the Email List. By the same token, if you are on the BBS
and post a message to a given List-Forum, the message will not only show up on
the BBS, but also be distributed to everyone on the Email List!!
It is really a very nice implementation and I am very pleased with its operation.
All of the tools you have come to know and love such as the List Search Engine
and List Browse and Download will still be available and contain all of the
latest posts. Think of the new BBS interface as just another method of accessing
the all of the Lists.
You can use the BBS to view all of the latest posts without having to do anything
except use your browser to surf over to the site. You can view and look at
all of the various List's posts. If you want to post a new message or reply
to an existing message from the BBS, you will have to Register on the BBS. This
is a *very* simple process and will only take a couple of minutes. There is
a small icon in the upper righthand side of the main BBS page labeled "Register"
to get you started.
I strongly recommend that you use the exact *same* email address you are subscribed
to the Email Lists with when registering on the BBS. Also, while not an
absolute requirement, I would really appreciate it if people would use their full
name when choosing their Username on the BBS (for example "Matt Dralle").
This just makes it easier for everyone to know who's posting. Also, I have enabled
the ability to upload a small user picture with your profile called an
"avatar". Please use a *real* picture of yourself *with* your cloths on! Thank
you! Maximum size of the bitmap is 120x120.
You can either be subscribed to the BBS, or any number of Email Lists, or both.
Registering on the BBS will allow you to email directly to all of the various
Lists. However, to receive direct List Email, you will need to be *subscribed*
to the various Lists as you have in the past. No changes here in operation.
I have added numerous links on the BBS pointing to the Email List subscription
page.
I've had the BBS connected to the Lists for about a week now, so its already loaded
up with a fair number of messages. You can post photos and other documents
directly to the BBS and links to them will appear in the List Email distributions.
Also, when any messages posted to the BBS are viewed in the List Email
distribution, there will be a URL link at the bottom of the message pointing
back to the BBS.
And here's what you've been waiting for -- the main URL for the new Matronics Email
List BBS is:
http://forums.matronics.com
Please surf on over, Register, and have a great time! I think this will be the
dawn of a whole new era for the Lists at Matronics!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Six New Email Lists / Forums At Matronics! |
Dear Listers,
Its my pleasure to announce the addition of six new Email List / Forums to the
aviation line up at Matronics! These new lists support all the usual features
you've come to know and love from the Matronics Email List including full integration
with the All New Web BBS Forums Site!! The new Lists include:
LycomingEngines-List Textron/Lycoming Engines
RotaxEngines-List Rotax Engine for Aircraft
M14PEngines-List Vendenyev M14P Radial Engine
MurphyMoose-List Murphy Moose Aircraft
Allegro-List Allegro 2000, a Czech-built, Rotax-powered Aircraft
Falco-List Sequoia Aircraft's Falco Experimental
To sign up for any or all of the new Lists, surf over to the Matronics Email List
Subscription Form and follow the instructions:
http://www.matronics.com/subscribe
Don't forget to check out the All New Web BBS Forum now available along with all
of the usual message and archive viewing tools at the Matronics Email Lists
site. Surf over to the following URL for information on the BBS Forum:
http://forums.matronics.com
Enjoy the new Lists!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | "Dave Nicholas" <Nicholas2(at)wadsnet.com> |
Does any one know where I can get a 12v starter for my M337A repaired in the US?
Also does any one know where I can buy another 12v starter for my M337A in
the US?
Thanks.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=19414#19414
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Mel Hinde" <mhinde(at)look.ca> |
| Subject: | Re: Lom-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 03/03/06 |
Dave,
Almost any industrial auto generator and starter repair depot should have no
problem fixing your starter.
Recently took in the starter from my diesel tractor (giant sucker) and they
fixed it fine. Rewound the armature I think.
Mel Hinde
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lom-List Digest Server" <lom-list-digest(at)matronics.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 2:56 AM
Subject: Lom-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 03/03/06
> *
>
> ==================================================
> Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive
> ==================================================
>
> Today's complete Lom-List Digest can also be found in either of the
> two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted
> in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes
> and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version
> of the Lom-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor
> such as Notepad or with a web browser.
>
> HTML Version:
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/digest/lom-list/Digest.Lom-List.2006-03-03.html
>
> Text Version:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/digest/lom-list/Digest.Lom-List.2006-03-03.txt
>
>
> ================================================
> EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive
> ================================================
>
>
> Lom-List Digest Archive
> ---
> Total Messages Posted Fri 03/03/06: 1
>
>
> Today's Message Index:
> ----------------------
>
> 1. 02:15 PM - M337A Starter (Dave Nicholas)
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 1
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Subject: Lom-List: M337A Starter
> From: "Dave Nicholas" <Nicholas2(at)wadsnet.com>
>
>
> Does any one know where I can get a 12v starter for my M337A repaired in
> the US?
> Also does any one know where I can buy another 12v starter for my M337A in
> the US?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=19414#19414
>
>
> --
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Jeayers1(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Lom-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 03/03/06 |
Dave and Mel,
I had my LOM generator repaired at an auto generator/alternator repair shop
at 105 hours TT on the engine. It worked fine, until a I installed the 10
pound lighter B&C alternator/regulator.
Jim Ayers
In a message dated 03/04/2006 10:37:40 AM Pacific Standard Time,
mhinde(at)look.ca writes:
Dave,
Almost any industrial auto generator and starter repair depot should have no
problem fixing your starter.
Recently took in the starter from my diesel tractor (giant sucker) and they
fixed it fine. Rewound the armature I think.
Mel Hinde
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Cory Emberson <bootless(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Feedback Request (Alternative Engines) Kitplanes Magazine |
Hello all,
I would like to hear from you if you're a builder who has successfully
installed and flown a LOM (or other alternative) engine in your
homebuilt plane. I'm compiling a builder's roundup for Kitplanes
magazine, and am looking for an installation that's flown for a minimum
of 300 hours, and is currently flying.
For the builders that we profile, the magazine will also be able to pay
you $100 for the write-up. I'll be at Sun 'n Fun until late morning on
Friday (April 7), so if you fly in, I'd be happy to take the photos
there. If not, we would also need at least 2-3 good photos, including a
close-up of the engine and an overall shot of the aircraft. Additional
photos would be great, and all photos will be returned. If you have
digital photos, it is very important that they be high-resolution, at
least 300 dpi. I have a list of specific areas to address if you'd like
to participate, but we can handle that off-line. Please feel free to
contact me off-line at: bootless (at) earthlink (dot) net (my despammed
email address).
Thank you so much!
best,
Cory Emberson
Contributing Editor
Kitplanes Magazine
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Matronics Email List Wiki! |
Dear Listers,
I have added a new feature to the Email List Forums at Matronics called a Wiki. What's "Wiki" you ask? A Wiki is a website. You go to it and browse just like you would any other web site. The difference is, you can change it. You can put anything you want on this web site without having to be a web designer or even being the owner. You can write a new page just like writing an email message on the BBS. You don't need to send it off to anyone to install on the site. It is kind of like a Blog (weblog) in which anyone can post. Here is a great page on where the term Wiki came from and what it means in the context of a website: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki
So on to the new Matronics Email List Wiki... I've created this site for anyone
from any of the Email Lists to use. I envision that there are a great many
things that can be added to this new Wiki since there are always new and interesting
tidbits of useful information traversing the Lists.
Off the main Matronics Email List Wiki page, you will find a link called "Community
Portal". Here you will find more links to stubs for all the various Lists
found at Matronics (and a few other links). Brian Lloyd and others from the
Yak-List have already begun adding content in a number of areas. Bob Nuckolls
of AeroElectric fame has added a great article on "Ageing Aircraft".
I have discussed the new Matronics Email List Wiki with Tedd McHenry and Dwight Frye of the RV Wiki Site and they have decided to merge their site over onto the new Matronics Wiki server giving everyone a single source for information on RV building and flying! This migration will begin today and you should be able to find all of the content currently found at www.rvwiki.org moved over to the Matronics Wiki within a few days.
To make edits to the Matronics Wiki, you will need to have a login account on the
Matronics Wiki and I have disabled anonymous edits. This protects the Wiki
site from automated spam engines and other nuisances that could compromise the
data at the site.
Signing up for an account is fast and easy and begins by clicking on the "create
an account or log in" link in the upper right hand corner of any page. Note
that you do not have to have a login or be logged in to view any of the content.
The Matronics Email List Wiki is YOUR Wiki! It is only as useful as the content
found within. The concept of the Wiki is that the people the use it and update
it. If you've got an interesting procedure for doing something, MAKE A WIKI
PAGE ON IT! You can even upload pictures. Saw something interesting at a
flyin? MAKE A WIKI PAGE ON IT! Don't be shy, this is YOUR site to share information
with others with similar interests.
Here is a users guide on using the Wiki implemented at Matronics: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Contents This gives a lot of great information on how to get started editing pages.
And finally, here is the URL for the Matronics Email List Wiki:
http://wiki.matronics.com
Brian Lloyd has written an excellent introduction to Wikis on the front page.
I encourage you to read it over, then drill into the "Community Portal" and HAVE
FUN!!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Jeayers1(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | better 12 VDC Starter Solenoid pn? |
Hi All,
Does anyone know the part number for the bigger 12VDC starter solenoid the
some LOM engines are using?
Jim Ayers
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Matronics BBS Forums |
Hello Listers,
I just wanted to send out a reminder to all of the Listers regarding the new-ish
BBS (Bulletin Board System) Forums that are available at Matronics for the Email
Lists. The BBS Forums give you Web-based access into the same email content
that is generated by the Email Lists. When an email message is posted to
any of the email lists, a copy of the message is also copied to the respective
List forum section on in the BBS Forums. By the same token, when a message is
posted within the BBS Forum interface context, it will also be posted to the
respective email list.
Basically, the BBS Forums give you yet another method of accessing the Matronics
Email List content. Some people prefer email, some prefer web forums; now you
can have it either way or both with the Matronics Lists!
You'll have to register for a login/password on the BBS Forum to _post_ from the
BBS, but you can view message content without registering for an account. To
Register for an account, look for the link at the top of the main BBS Forum
page entitled "Register". Click on it and follow the instructions. Site Administrator
approval will be required (to keep spammers out), but I will try to
get these approved in less than 24 hours.
If you haven't yet taken a look at the Matronics Email List content over on the
BBS Forum, surf on over and take a peek. Its pretty cool. The URL is:
http://forums.matronics.com
I want to stress that the BBS Forums are simply an adjunct to the existing Matronics
Email Lists; another way of viewing and interacting with the Matronics List
content. If you like Email, great. If you like Web Forums, great. If you
like both, great. Its up to you how you view and create your content.
You will also find a URL link at the bottom of this email called Matronics List
Features Navigator. You can click on this link at any time to find URL links
to all of the other great features available on the Matronics site like the Archive
Search Engine, List Browse, List Download, FAQs, Wiki, and lots more.
There is a specific Navigator for each Email List and the link for this specific
List is shown below.
Thanks for all the great list participation and support; it is greatly appreciated!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Two New Email Lists at Matronics and Wiki Reminder! |
Dear Listers,
I have added two new email Lists to the Matronics Line up today. These include
a Continental engine List and a Lightning aircraft List:
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continental-list(at)matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Continental-List
Everything related to the Continental aircraft engine. Sky's the limit on discussions
here.
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lightning-list(at)matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List
This is an exciting new design from Arion Aircraft LLC in Shelbyville Tennessee. Pete Krotje has a very nice web site on the aircraft that can be found here: http://www.arionaircraft.com/
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Also, if you haven't checked out the new Matronics Aircraft Wiki, swing by and
have a look. Remember, a Wiki is only as good as the content that the members
put into it. Have a look over some of the sections, and if you've got some interesting
or useful, please add it to the Wiki! Its all about YOU! :-) The
URL for the Matronics Wiki is:
http://wiki.matronics.com
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | List Enclosure Support |
Dear Listers,
Over the years, I have resisted the urge to enable enclosure support on the Matronics
Lists for a number of reasons relating to performance, capacity, capability,
and security. However, its now 2006 and most everyone using email these
days is on an email client that, at some level, supports the viewing and handling
of enclosures. I get a fair amount of email each month from people on the
various Lists asking why their posts of this or that picture didn't go through.
Back quite a while ago by popular request, I enabled enclosure support for a few
Lists such as the RV10-List, Kolb-List, and the Tailwind-List. Contrary to
my fears, there really hasn't been any significant issues on these Lists relating
to the advent of enclosure support and for the most part, members have policed
themselves well with respect to the size of things they have posted.
Having enclosures enabled on some Lists and not others has given me a fair amount
of headaches with respect to filtering messages and content since the formats
are often quite different between a typical MIME encoded message and a generic
plain-text message. The spammers are getting more cleaver all the time and
are constantly trying to thwart my best efforts at keeping them from posting
to the Lists.
So, for these reasons, I've have decided to go ahead and enable limited enclosure
posting on all of the email Lists at Matronics. This will not only increase
the utility of the Lists, but will afford me a better opportunity to filter
out the chaff.
Here are some of the features and limits of enclosures on the Matronics Lists:
1) Enclosures will only be posted to the Real Time version of the
Lists.
2) Enclosures will NOT be included in the Daily Digest version of
the Lists.
3) Enclosures WILL BE forwarded on to the BBS Forum Web site.
4) Enclosures will NOT be appended to the Archives.
5) Enclosures will NOT be available in the List Browse feature.
6) Only the following file types and extensions will be allowed:
jpg, bmp, gif, txt, xls, pdf, and doc
All other enclosures types will be rejected and email returned to
sender. The enclosure types listed above are relatively safe from
a virus standpoint and don't pose a particularly large security risk.
7) !! All incoming enclosures will be scanned for viruses prior to posting
to the List. This is done in real time and will not slow down
the process of posting the message !!
Here are some rules for posting enclosures. Failure to abide by these rules could
result in the removal of a subscriber's email address from the Lists.
1) Pay attention to what you are posting!! Make sure that the files
you are enclosing aren't HUGE (greater that 1MB). Remember that there
are still people checking they're email via dial up modem. If you post
30MB worth of pictures, you are placing an unnecessary burden on these
folks and the rest of us, for that matter.
2) SCALE YOUR PICTURES DOWN!!! I don't want to see huge 3000 x 2000
pictures getting posted that are 3 or 4MB each. This is just
unacceptable. Use a program such as Photoshop to scale the picture
down to something on the order of 800 x 600 and try to keep the
file size to less-than 200KB, preferably much less.
Microsoft has a really awesome utility available for free that allows
you to Right-Click on a picture in Explorer and automatically
scale it down and resave it. This is a great utility - get it, use it!
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx
Look for the link "Image Resizer"
3) !! This would seem to go without saying, but I'll say it anyway. Do not
post anything that would be considered offensive by your grandmother.
And you know what I'm saying; I don't want to see anything even
questionable. !!
4) REMEMBER THIS: If you post a 1MB enclosure to a List with 1000 members
subscribed, your 1MB enclosure must be resent 1000 times amounting
to 1MB X 1000 = 1 Gigabyte of network traffic!! BE CAREFUL and BE COURTEOUS!
I hope everyone will enjoy the added functionality of enclosures. Please police
yourself and use good judgement when posting messages with enclosures using
the guidelines I've outlined above.
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Matronics Email List Web Server Upgrade Tonight... |
Dear Listers,
This evening I will be upgrading the Matronics Web Server hardware to a new Quad-processor
2.8Ghz Xeon system (yes, 4-physical CPUs!) with an Ultra 320 SCSI
Raid 5 disk system and 5GB of DDR2 RAM.
As with the older system, the new system will be running the latest version of
Redhat Linux. Most of the software configuration work is already done for the
migration, but I still have to sync all of the archive and forum data from the
old system to the new system. I am anticipating about 2 to 3 hours of downtime
for me to fully make the transition, although it could be considerable less
if everything goes according to plan.
The Matronics Webserver will be *UNavailable* from the Internet during the work,
and you will receive a time-out if you try to connect during the upgrade.
Email List Distribution will be *available* during the upgrade of the Web Server,
and List message distribution will function as normal.
This represents a significant performance upgrade for the Matronics Web Server
and you should notice nicely improved searching and surfing performance following
the upgrade!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | New Incoming Message Size Limit Implemented... |
Dear Listers,
Due to a number of requests to limit the size of incoming posts to the Lists because
of the recently added enclosure feature, I have add a new filter that will
limit the total size of any given message posted to the List. I have initially
set the limit to 2MB
and we'll see how everyone likes that.
If a member attempts to post a message that is greater than the set limit, they
will receive an email back indicating that their message wasn't posted to the
List and why. Also included in the message will be the current size limit and
how large their message
was.
Some might say that 2MB is still too large, but its a place to start...
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Comcast Was Blocking Matronics Email Lists... |
Dear Listers (Specifically Comcast Listers),
For about the last two days, Comcast was blocking incoming email from the Matronics
Email Lists because their spam filters thought the mail was spam. I was
that people on Comcast are receiving List messages again.
If you are a Comcast user, you might want to email them and express your displeasure
with their Spam blocking policy, particularly as it relates to "matronics.com".
Sorry for the hassle...
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Matronics Email List Fund Raiser - November! |
Dear Listers,
Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operation
and upgrade of the List services at Matronics. It's through these sole Contributions
of List members that these Matronics Lists are possible.
You have probably noticed that there are no banner ads or pop-up windows on any of the Matronics Lists or related web sites such as the Forums site ( http://forums.matronics.com ), Wiki site ( http://wiki.matronics.com ), or other related pages such as the List Search Engine ( http://www.matornics.com/search ), List Browse ( http://www.matornics.com/listbrowse ), etc. This is because I believe in a List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely Airplanes and not about annoying advertisments.
During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every few days
reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. Each message will generally
highlight a particular feature or benefit of the Matronics Lists or detail
a new feature or service that was added this year. I ask for your patience
and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages.
The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all of the
bills associated with running these lists.
Once again, this year I've got a terrific line up of free gifts to go along with
the various Contribution levels. Most all of these gifts have been provided
by some of the vary members and vendors that you'll find on Matronics Lists and
have been either donated or provided at substantially discounted rates.
This year, these generous people include Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric Connection (http://www.aeroelectric.com/), Paul Besing of Aeroware Enterprises aka Kitlog Pro (http://www.kitlog.com/), Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore (http://www.buildersbooks.com/), and Jon Croke of HomebuiltHELP (http://www.homebuilthelp.com/).
These are extremely generous guys and I encourage you to visit their respective
web sites. Each one offers a unique and very useful aviation-related product
line. I would like publicly to thank Bob, Paul, Andy, and Jon for their generous
support of the Lists again this year!!
You can make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods this
year including using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. All three methods
afford you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with
a qualifying Contribution amount!!
To make your Contribution, please visit the secure site below:
https://www.matronics.com/contribution
I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral
support over the years. I know it sounds a little cliche, but you guys really
do feel like family.
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Have You Tried The New Matronics List Forum? |
Hello Listers,
One of the major new additions to the Matronics Email Lists this year was the addition
of a new and full function Forum Web Site at:
http://forums.matronics.com
The best part of these new Forums is that they are tied directly to the Classic
email distribution Lists! That also means that posts go in both directions.
If you post a message on the Forum web site, it will be cross posted to the respective
Email List. And, if you post a message to a particular Email List,
it will be cross posted to the same respective forum on the Forum site!
So, no matter what your content viewing pleasure is - either direct email distribution
or web-based GUI interface, you can have it at the Matronics Email Lists!
Won't you make a Contribution to support these Lists? It is your SOLE Contributions
that make their continued operation and upgrade possible!
The Contribution site is Fast, Easy, and Secure. Please surf over and make your
Contribution today:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Wow, Cool! New List Feature... [Please Read] |
Dear Listers,
By popular suggestion, I've written a substantial new code module for the Matronics
Email Lists system. Here's how it works...
During each November, I send out quite a few PBS-like "Please make a Contribution
to support your List" emails. Wouldn't it be cool if, once a member made a
Contribution, they didn't have to receive my support pleas anymore for the rest
of that year?
Well, that's exactly what I've written! Following this posting, anyone that makes
a List Contribution in 2006 will no longer receive my Contribution Pleas for
the rest of the year!
The best part is this not only applies to the Realtime distribution, but also the
Digest distribution! For those that have made a Contribution, the Daily Digest
email-version will be invisibly stripped of my requests as well! (Note that
my requests will still be present in the online versions of the Digests, List
Browse, and on the Forum site.)
For those submitting their Contribution by personal Check, please be sure to include
your email address along with your Check as this is what is used to determine
eligibility.
So, in a nutshell, here's how it works:
Make a Contribution = No more "Please Make a Contribution" messages!
How sweet is that? If that's not a great reason to jump on the Matronics Email
List Contribution site and make your donation today, I don't know what is!
Don't forget that there are some totally awesome free gifts to be had along with
your List Contribution this year!! Don't wait a minute longer to support your
Lists!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you for your Support!!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | If You Got This Email, You Haven't Made A Contribution Yet! |
:-)
If you received this particular Matronics List Email message, its because you haven't
yet made a Contribution to support your Lists! This is the first PBS-like
funds drive message under the new distribution system. The new system selectively
sends out the Contribution messages ONLY to those that forgot to whip
out the 'ol credit card this year to support the continued operation and upgrade
of the Matronics Email Lists! Don't you wish PBS worked that way? :-)
You heard that right. Once you make your Contribution, these support requests
messages during November will suddenly stop coming to your personal email inbox!
Pardon me if I seem kind of excited about the new feature. I've wanted to
implement something like this for a number of years now, but it was always such
a daunting task to modify the back-end List processing code, that I just kept
putting it off. Finally this year, I just decided to bite the bullet and put
the code-pounding time it to make it work. A few days later, bam! A working
system!
Anyway, I'll stop gushing now. I really do appreciate each and every one of your
individual Contributions to support the Lists. It is your support that enables
me to upgrade the hardware and software that are required to run a List Site
like this. It also goes to pay for the Commercial-Grade Internet connection
and to pay the rather huge electric bill to keep the computer gear running
and the air conditioner powered up.
Your personal Contribution matters because when combined with other Listers such
as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up and running. I accept exactly
ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand
the pop-up ads and all other commercialism that is so prevalent on the Internet
these days and I particularly don't want to have it on my Email List site.
I'm pretty sure you don't either.
If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email
Lists, please make a Contribution today to keep it that way!!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Clarification On New Contribution Module Operation... |
Dear Listers,
A number of Listers emailed and indicated that, even though they had made a Contribution
this year, they still received the Contribution message yesterday.
I looked into it and I found a slight anomaly (ok, bug) in the new code specifically
as it related to Listers that had made their Contribution through PayPal
AND have a DIFFERENT email address for their PayPal account and for their Matronics
List subscription.
If your PayPal account email address is DIFFERENT than the email address you are
subscribed to the Matronics List(s) as, then my new code module couldn't tell
that you had made a Contribution, since it was using the PayPal email address
instead of the List email.
I've fixed this issue for any new PayPal Contributions, but I don't have any easy
way of resolving this for any of the previous Contribtuions. Again, this is
ONLY an issue if your PayPal and Matronics List email addresses ARE NOT the
same. Otherwise, everything works great.
If you made a PayPal Contribution before 11/09/06 AND your email addresses don't
match, please drop me an email at " info(at)matronics.com " (do not reply to this
message!) and give me your Name, and both Email Addresses and I will manually
update the records so that things will work as advertised.
Sorry for the hassle! New code; new bugs... :-)
To make a Contribution, please see: http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administration
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Dear Listers,
I added a new Wiki web site to the Matronics Email List features earlier this year. What's a Wiki, you ask? Well, here's the Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki) definition:
A wiki (IPA: [ w .ki ] or [ wi .ki ] ) is a type of Web site
that allows the visitors themselves to easily add, remove, and otherwise edit
and change some available content, sometimes without the need for registration.
This ease of interaction and operation makes a wiki an effective tool for
collaborative authoring. The term wiki also can refer to the collaborative software
itself (wiki engine) that facilitates the operation of such a Web site,
or to certain specific wiki sites, including the computer science site (an original
wiki), WikiWikiWeb, and on-line encyclopedias such as Wikipedia.
Under the Matronics Email List Moniker, there is now a very nice List-specific
Wiki available! It a place for Listers to put articles about any aviation topic
that suits them. The purpose is to provide what the mailing lists do not:
structure and persistence. The mailing lists are a fantastic resource to ask
a question and get good (and bad and funny and annoying) answers. But once the
question is asked and answered it is not in front of the List anymore. If a
new person subscribes the next day, he/she does not see that information unless
he/she goes to the trouble to search the archives, a hit or miss proposition.
The result is that the same thread of conversation gets created and/or revisited.
There are several things that happen as a result:
1. The person gets his or her question answered;
2. The information gets better as more people think about and answer the question;
3. The people who have seen the same question asked and answered get annoyed
at seeing the same things over and over and over and ...
So this is where the Wiki comes in. You know what questions you wanted answered.
You may have asked or answered the question. You know the information is useful.
So you put the information here, in the Matronics Email List Wiki!
It doesn't matter that this information is 100% complete or correct. Just writing
something creates a placeholder and makes useful information available immediately.
It has the same immediacy as the mailing list but it has persistence
and structure.
But what if the information is incomplete or incorrect? No problem! Anyone else
coming along can edit the article! If I write something and you discover something
I have left out or stated incorrectly, you can fix it right then!
So let's begin and make this the place for information about building, flying,
maintaining, and understanding our airplanes.
But what about whether something is "appropriate" or not? Don't worry. Write
it down. Let the reader determine whether or not it is appropriate. If it is,
he/she will read it. If it isn't, he/she won't. It's as simple as that.
And when you do write that article you won't have to worry about whether some editor
is going to decide whether or not to print it in a newsletter or whether
the webmaster will have time to put it up on the web page.
The last question I hear brewing out there is: if anyone can post anything, won't
this just become a mass of garbage? Surprisingly, the answer is a resounding
no. If you want proof, go visit the Wikipedia, a free-to-everyone encyclopedia
written by whoever wants to write articles. The articles there are as good
as anything I have read anywhere and anyone can add anything anytime they want
to.
So don't hesitate. Write it down. Put it here. It will never hurt anyone. The
more information we get here, the more useful it will become to other people
and the more information they will put here for YOU to use.
Here's the URL to start (there are lots more bured under this starting place):
http://www.matronics.com/wiki/index.php/Matronics:Community_Portal
But please don't forget that this Wiki and all of the other Matronics Email List
features are supported solely by YOUR Contributions!! November is List Fund
Raiser month and there are lots of Free Gifts to be had with your qualifying
Contribution. Please make a Contribution to support the continued operation and
upgrade of these great services!!! Thank you!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | WLAS [Please Read] |
Dear Listers,
I sat down at the 'ol computer tonight to have a look at a few of the nice comments
List Members have been including along with their Contributions this year.
I was amazed at how many I found and even more amazed at some of the very nice
things Listers have been saying about the Lists and how valuable the they
are to them.
I've included quite a few of these nice comments below. Please read over some
of this great Lister feedback. No doubt you will find that you agree with at
least one or two of those comments - maybe all of them! If you find that do,
won't you please make a Contribution to support these Lists today!! Its fast
and easy with the Matronics List Contribution Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Don't forget that I've now fully implemented the new *List Fund Raiser Squelch*
feature that will automatically intercept any future iterations of my "Please
Contribute" messages -- that is, *once you've made YOUR Contribution*! How cool
is that? (Make sure the email address you enter along with your Contribution
matches exactly your subscribed List email address. An exact match is how
it works.)
Thank you for your generous Contributions this year and for all the wonderful comments!!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
================= What Listers Are Saying (WLAS) ================
Absolutely the best deal on the Internet!!
-Owen B
I love The Matronics...
-Robeto B
My wife has her soaps & I've got my lists!
-Hal B
These lists are, indeed, the lifeline of our hobby.
-Bob R
The best source of information for my a/c.
-Tony C
The Zenith list is the first thing I read in the morning.
-Herbert H
You do more good than you can imagine. I wish I'd known
about you while I was building my Kitfox, but you are
still an after-the-fact resource.
-Ben B
..an excellent site.
-Ashley M
The "List" has been the ultimate help for my Zenith
CH 701 project!!
-Brian U
I appreciate the list being here for me.
-Geoff H
..a great service.
-William C
The List continues to be an interesting and useful facility.
-David M
Your list is a constant goad to keep me working on my project.
-Thomas S
..a great service.
-Robert W
The Pietenpol list is a great resource.
-Benjamin W
The Yak-list is Awesome!
-James S
..great service.
-Robert S
The features you have implemented recently have you poised
to knock out yahoo groups...
-Danny D
I like how your forum looks/works and the list service...
-Ken E
..great service.
-David P
Very useful web site.
-Wayne E
..a very valuable service.
-Chris D
Great sites...
-Randall R
I used to look at [that other] site also but it's gotten so
cluttered with advertising that I've stopped looking at it.
-Wayne E
Without your services, the build would be a grope in the dark...
-Fergus K
The information and help I've received greatly outweighs the
donation...
-Lee P
..great service!
-Christopher D
I really don't think I could be building my plane without the
wisdom I find on this list.
-William G
It really makes building a pleasure.
-James P
..great service.
-Doug W
I'm getting near the end of my build (Europa tri XS) don't
think I could have done it with out the help of the forum.
-Stanislaus S
Marvelous service. Couldn't have done it without you.
-Jim G
Love the list, this is a wonderful way to help others...
-Michael S
..good service.
-Derek L
The list is responsible for helping me complete this project
and educating me in the process.
-Jeff D
Definitely worth the donation.
-Ron L
..great service to the aviation community.
-Tony P
I have been flying my plane for 5 years (RV-6) but I still
get valuable information from this service.
-Don N
A very helpful site.
-Roland S
It's a great community to be part of.
-David L
Great sites.
-John C
A great place to find and share not only information but to
meet people across the country and make lasting relationships.
-Uncle Craig
Great facility.
-Peter H
Its a great source of information!
-Michael W
Great improvements to the List...
-Edward A
Great service!!!
-Rich D
..great resource!
-William C
..excellent lists!
-Michael S
Couldn't have built my RV4 without the list.
-Warren M
..a great service...
-James N
I would not have missed [the list] for anything during the
building of my Europa.
-Svein J
..another great year.
-Robert D
..this [is an] essential builder's resource.
-David A
..excellent service.
-Gregory B
I've learned a huge amount of "stuff" over the past year
and look forward to it every day!
-Smith M
..a great communication tool...
-Jon M
Finished building 5 years ago, but still are lurking on
your great list!
-Lothar K
..a valuable service. At 11:00 pm Matronics is the goto
place for my RV questions.
-Mike D
================= What Listers Are Saying (WLAS) ================
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone
that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its sort
of my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their
appreciation for the Lists.
Won't you take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors
(LOC)? As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems
at least - if not a whole lot more - valuable as a
building/flying/recreating/entertainment tool as your typical magazine subscription!
Please take minute and assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is
fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by popping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps
these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment
about how the Lists have helped you!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
If you look forward to checking your List email everyday (and a lot of you have
written to say that you do!), then you're probably getting at least 0 or 0 worth
of Entertainment from the Lists each year. You'd pay twice that for a subscription
to some lame magazine or even a dinner out. Isn't the List worth at
least that much to you? Wouldn't it be great if you could pay that same amount
and get a well-managed media source free of advertising, SPAM, and viruses?
Come to think of it, you do...
Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support YOUR
Lists?
Contribution Page:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Again, I want to say THANK YOU to everyone that has made a Contribution thus far
during this year's List Fund Raiser!! These Lists are made possible exclusively
through YOUR generosity!!
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Why? [Please Read] |
Dear Listers,
Each year I like to explain why I have a Fund Raiser and also take the opportunity
to express why I think the List Services here provide a superior experience
over the commercial equivalents.
I use the List Fund Raiser each year to offset the costs involved with running
a high performance email list site such as this one. With the annual support
from the List members through the PBS-like Fund Raiser, I have found I can run
the entire site without having to inflect any of the members with those annoying
banner ads flashing up all the time trying to sell little-blue-pills or other
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists... |
Dear Listers,
Just a reminder that November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution
today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these great
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too!
The Contribution Site is fast and easy:
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Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | More Great List Comments - Please Make A Contribution! |
Dear Listers,
There's a little less than one week left for this year's List Fund Raiser. I thought
it would a great time to share a few more of the great comments I've been
receiving from Contributors regarding what the Lists mean to them. There are
some particularly poignant ones in this batch and I encourage you to have a
look at some of them.
Don't forget that once you make your Contribution, the Contribution Squelch kicks
in and you won't receive any future messages from me regarding the Fund Raiser
this year! This holds true for the Realtime and Digest distributions and
now also the HTML and TXT links included with the Digest! (Note that for technical
reasons, if someone replies to one of my contribution messages, the Squelch
will _not_ be activated, and you will still receive it. Contribution messages
will also still be found on the Forums site and the List Browse).
Please make your Contribution today to support these List services! Pick up a
great Gift too!
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Thank you!
Matt Dralle
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | List of Contributors Coming Soon - Make Sure You're Listed! |
Dear Listers,
The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! On December 1st I post
a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists.
Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their
appreciation for the Lists.
As a number of people have pointed out in their Contribution comments, the List
seems at least as valuable of a building/flying/recreating tool as a typical
your magazine subscription! And how interactive is a magazine, after all? :-)
Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists
is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by droping a personal check in the mail to:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
USA
(Please include your email address on the check!)
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that
keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment
about how the Lists have helped you!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Who is "Matt Dralle" & What Are "The Lists"? [Please Read] |
Dear Listers,
Who is Matt Dralle and what exactly are these Lists? Well, I've been working in
the information technology industry for over 20 years primarily in computer
networking design and implementation. I have also done extensive work in web
development and CGI design during this period.
I started the Matronics Email Lists back in 1990 with about 30 fellow RV builders
from around the world. Since that time, I have added 63 other kinds of aircraft
related Lists to the line up and numerous other List related services such
as the Forums, Wiki, Archives and Search Engine just to name a few.
For flexibility and reliability, I have chosen to run all of my own servers here
locally. Other List-related systems include a 1 Gigabit, fully switched network
infrastructure, a commercial-grade Netscreen firewall, a Barracuda spam filter,
a local T1 Internet router, and a commercial-grade business T1 Internet
connection with full static addressing.
The computer servers found here include a brand new, quad-processor Xeon Linux
server for List web services, a dual-processor Xeon Linux system dedicated to
the email processing List functions, and another P4 Linux system serving as a
remote storage disk farm for the archives, databases, and for an on-line hard
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to over 6 Terra Bytes! This entire system is protected by three large, commercial-grade
uninterrupted power supply (UPS) systems that assure the Lists are
available even during a local power outage! Speaking of power, imagine how much
electricity it takes to run all of these systems. One month this Summer,
I had a staggering $1368 bill for electricity alone!
I recently upgraded all of the computer racking infrastructure including new power
feeds and dedicated air conditioning for the room that serves as the Computer
Center for the Matronics Email Lists. This year I added another rack to house
the new MONSTER quad-processor web system that didn't quite fit into the
first rack! Here's a composite photo of the List Computer Center before the addition
of the second rack:
http://www.matronics.com/MattDralle-ListComputerCenter.jpg
As you can see, I take running these Lists very seriously and I am dedicated to
providing an always-on, 24x7x365 experience for each and every Lister.
But building and running this system isn't cheap. As I've stated before, I don't
support any of these systems with commercial advertising on the Lists. It
is supported 100% through List member Contributions! That means you... and you...
and YOU!
To that end, I hold a List Fund Raiser each November and ask that members make
a small Contribution to support the continued operation and upgrade of this ever-expanding
system. Its solely YOUR Contributions that keeps it running!
Please make a Contribution today to support these Lists!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
USA
(Please include your email address on the check!)
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Last "Official" Day Of The List Fund Raiser! |
Dear Listers,
Well, its November 30th and that means three things...
1) Today I am now officially 43 years old... (arg...)
2) It marks that last "official" day of the List Fund Raiser!
3) Its the last day I will be bugging everyone for a whole year! :-)
If you use the Lists and enjoy the content and the no-advertising, no-spam, and
no-censorship way in which they're run, please make a Contribution today to support
their continued operation and upkeep. Your $20 or $30 goes a long way
to further the List operation and keep the bills paid.
I will be posting the List of Contributors next week, so make sure your name is
on it! :-)
Thank you to everyone that has made a Contribution so far this year! It is greatly
appreciated.
List Contributions: http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Matronics Fund Raiser - 2006 List of Contributors |
Dear Listers,
I would like to thank everyone that made a Contribution in support of the Lists
this year! It was really nice to hear all great comments people had regarding
the Lists! As I have said many times before, running these Lists is a labor
of love. Your generosity during the List Fund Raiser only underscores the great
sentiments people have made regarding the Lists.
If you haven't yet made a Contribution in support of this year's Fund Raiser please
feel free to do so. The nice List gifts will be available on the site for
just a little while longer, so hurry and make your Contribution and get your
great gift. Once again, the URL for the Contribution web site is:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
I would like to thank Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore ( http://www.buildersbooks.com ), Paul Besing of Aeroware Enterprises ( http://www.kitlog.com ), Jon Croke of Homebuilt HELP ( http://www.homebuilthelp.com ) and Bob Nuckolls of AeroElectric ( http://www.aeroelectric.com ) for their extremely generous support during this year's Fund Raiser through the contribution of merchandise. These are great guys that support the aviation industry and I encourage each and every Lister to have a look at their products. Thank you Andy, Paul, Jon and Bob!! Your support is very much appreciated!
And finally, below you will find a web link to the 2006 List of Contributors current
as of 12/7/06! Have a look at this list of names as these are the people
that make all of these List services possible! I can't thank each of you enough
for your support and great feedback during this year's Fund Raiser!
THANK YOU!
http://www.matronics.com/loc/2006.html
I will be shipping out all of the gifts in the next few weeks and hope to have
everything out by the end of the month. In most cases, gifts will be shipped
via US Postal Service. Kitlog Pro serial numbers should go out via email this
weekend.
Once again, thank you for making this year's List Fund Raiser successful!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Robert Feldtman <bobf(at)feldtman.com> |
| Subject: | ground for starter bendix |
Anyone else had starter problems with LOM? I do need to re wire the ground on
the bendix, but the "belt tightener " screw on the supercharger is somewhat a
mystery. the LOM engine manual is not real explicit on how to adjust it.
bobf
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Jeayers1(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: ground for starter bendix |
Which engine do you have?
Starting is the weak side of my M332A engine. I understand there may be a
larger starter solenoid. Mine has a 30mm diameter. There may be a 34mm
diameter starter solenoid.
Jim Ayers
RV-3 LOM M332A 3 blade MT electric CS propeller
In a message dated 12/17/2006 3:46:29 AM Pacific Standard Time,
bobf(at)feldtman.com writes:
--> Lom-List message posted by: Robert Feldtman
Anyone else had starter problems with LOM? I do need to re wire the ground
on
the bendix, but the "belt tightener " screw on the supercharger is somewhat
a
mystery. the LOM engine manual is not real explicit on how to adjust it.
bobf
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Robert Feldtman <bobf(at)feldtman.com> |
| Subject: | Re: ground for starter bendix |
On Sunday 17 December 2006 13:09, Jeayers1(at)aol.com wrote:
I have a 332B LOM on the glastar. It is a 12 volt system. It appears to me to
be a rather small bendix - probably the 30. I clearly have some ground issues
for the bendix and am redsigning the grounding wire - trying to use a ground
braid strap of copper instead of wire.
How do you adjust the "strap" adjustment screw on the top/side of the
supercharger. somtimes it feels or sounds like there is somthing binding and
that is why the starter doesn't turn it well, and gets hot. Other times it
spins great.
glad to finally meet another LOM owner!
bobf
> Which engine do you have?
>
> Starting is the weak side of my M332A engine. I understand there may be a
> larger starter solenoid. Mine has a 30mm diameter. There may be a 34mm
> diameter starter solenoid.
>
> Jim Ayers
> RV-3 LOM M332A 3 blade MT electric CS propeller
>
> In a message dated 12/17/2006 3:46:29 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> bobf(at)feldtman.com writes:
>
> --> Lom-List message posted by: Robert Feldtman
>
> Anyone else had starter problems with LOM? I do need to re wire the ground
> on
> the bendix, but the "belt tightener " screw on the supercharger is
> somewhat a
> mystery. the LOM engine manual is not real explicit on how to adjust it.
>
> bobf
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Robert Feldtman <bobf(at)feldtman.com> |
| Subject: | supercharger tensioner |
My supercharger is staying "ON" when control is turned "OFF"... tensioner belt
needs adjusting - should I turn it left to loosen the belt or right to
tighten the belt to allow MP to be 29.9 inches when "OFF"? Four or five
turns?
bobf
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Jeayers1(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: supercharger tensioner |
The supercharger tension needs to be loosen.
I tried adjusting the supercharger tension when the starter didn't seem to
stay engaged. I have the 30mm starter solenoid. Apparently I need the 34mm
starter solenoid. I have a 12 volt system.
Regards,
Jim Ayers
In a message dated 01/02/2007 3:53:08 AM Pacific Standard Time,
bobf(at)feldtman.com writes:
--> Lom-List message posted by: Robert Feldtman
My supercharger is staying "ON" when control is turned "OFF"... tensioner
belt
needs adjusting - should I turn it left to loosen the belt or right to
tighten the belt to allow MP to be 29.9 inches when "OFF"? Four or five
turns?
bobf
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Robert Feldtman <bobf(at)feldtman.com> |
| Subject: | Re: supercharger tensioner |
On Friday 05 January 2007 10:02, Jeayers1(at)aol.com wrote:
I did loosen it - and it strted fine - two props! now, I need to adjust it
because the supercharge stays "ON" delivering 37 inches MP even when the
supercharger control is put in the "OFF" position. I know I can just leave
the SC ON and drop the MP back with the throttle, but I want to be able to
turn it off properly. The glastar cowling is not too bad to take off, but it
is requiring some on and offs -- cause to check the full throttle manifold
pressure, I cannot hold the plane still - it skids on the brakes! The only
way is to taxi out and do a takeoff with full throttle....
I'll let you know when I get it figured out. I am also tying to get hold of
Joe Krybus at Santa Paula Airport - he apparently is a LOM expert and see if
he has any hints.
thanks!
bobf
> The supercharger tension needs to be loosen.
>
> I tried adjusting the supercharger tension when the starter didn't seem to
> stay engaged. I have the 30mm starter solenoid. Apparently I need the
> 34mm starter solenoid. I have a 12 volt system.
>
> Regards,
> Jim Ayers
>
> In a message dated 01/02/2007 3:53:08 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> bobf(at)feldtman.com writes:
>
> --> Lom-List message posted by: Robert Feldtman
>
> My supercharger is staying "ON" when control is turned "OFF"... tensioner
> belt
> needs adjusting - should I turn it left to loosen the belt or right to
> tighten the belt to allow MP to be 29.9 inches when "OFF"? Four or five
> turns?
>
> bobf
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Robert Feldtman <bobf(at)feldtman.com> |
| Subject: | Re: supercharger tensioner |
On Friday 05 January 2007 10:02, Jeayers1(at)aol.com wrote:
Jim - starting good now - tensioner adjusted, just a little more tweaking.
down to 33 inches in off position, still 37 inches supercharge on.
I am just about due my 50 hr engine inspection, so will be draining oil,
checking comperssions, and retorquing bolts per the manual. might get to some
of it this weekend.
Seems to miss a little bit at less than 25 inches MP in cruise - might need
the injectors cleaned out. Sat for a while before the builder got it running
enough to get the phase I sign off. runs okay, but might be smoother at lower
power settings. High power settings are really smooth and powerful.
so far - pretty happy with the engine!
bobf
> The supercharger tension needs to be loosen.
>
> I tried adjusting the supercharger tension when the starter didn't seem to
> stay engaged. I have the 30mm starter solenoid. Apparently I need the
> 34mm starter solenoid. I have a 12 volt system.
>
> Regards,
> Jim Ayers
>
> In a message dated 01/02/2007 3:53:08 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> bobf(at)feldtman.com writes:
>
> --> Lom-List message posted by: Robert Feldtman
>
> My supercharger is staying "ON" when control is turned "OFF"... tensioner
> belt
> needs adjusting - should I turn it left to loosen the belt or right to
> tighten the belt to allow MP to be 29.9 inches when "OFF"? Four or five
> turns?
>
> bobf
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| From: | Klaus Dietrich <klaus.dietrich(at)oracle.com> |
Hi,
flying a LOM 332 AK powered Bucker since two years, I'm just wondering
who else is on the list?
I have now 200hrs on the engine and so far all is fine (except one
engine stop inflight, due to a sticking gravity valve after aerobatics....)
Have cleaned the contacts of my buzzer with the result that it's not
working anymore; any idea how to properly service and adjust the buzzer?
And do I have to do any service of the magnetos yet?
Thanks
Klaus (Vienna)
--
Klaus Dietrich
Oracle Financing EMEA
Tel/Fax: +43 1 33 777 825
http://www.oracle.com/financing
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| From: | Robert Feldtman <bobf(at)feldtman.com> |
Klaus - I have the 332B engine - 50 hrs on a glastar. You can get the
buzzer from moraviation.com in Canada or probably from the factory in
Prague - you are so close. You have already cleaned the points on the
contact - there is only a capacitor and a coil in there. MAke sure all
the connection are solid for the P leads going to the buzzer. It is more
likely a connection problem! There is a procedure to check the current
draw through the buzzer points, but don't let it be "on" for more than a
few seconds, or it might burn it out. Do you have the engine manual?
So far I am happy with the LOM engine here in the USA. We have no LOM
mechanics in Texas, so I guess I will have to do most of the work!
Besten gluck!
bobf
Klaus Dietrich wrote:
> Hi,
>
> flying a LOM 332 AK powered Bucker since two years, I'm just wondering
> who else is on the list?
> I have now 200hrs on the engine and so far all is fine (except one
> engine stop inflight, due to a sticking gravity valve after
> aerobatics....)
>
> Have cleaned the contacts of my buzzer with the result that it's not
> working anymore; any idea how to properly service and adjust the buzzer?
> And do I have to do any service of the magnetos yet?
>
> Thanks
> Klaus (Vienna)
> --
>
> Klaus Dietrich
>
> Oracle Financing EMEA
> Tel/Fax: +43 1 33 777 825
>
> http://www.oracle.com/financing
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *
>
>
> *
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Jeayers1(at)aol.com |
Hi Klaus,
I installed the "Slick Start" in place of the buzzer. It is a solid state
unit, so there is no maintenance. Aircraft Spruce sells them for $349.95 US.
I think they were about $270 US, when I bought mine.
I have a M332A engine in a RV-3.
Regards,
Jim Ayers
Newbury Park, California
(805) 795-5377
In a message dated 03/07/2007 1:06:44 AM Pacific Standard Time,
klaus.dietrich(at)oracle.com writes:
Hi,
flying a LOM 332 AK powered Bucker since two years, I'm just wondering who
else is on the list?
I have now 200hrs on the engine and so far all is fine (except one engine
stop inflight, due to a sticking gravity valve after aerobatics....)
Have cleaned the contacts of my buzzer with the result that it's not working
anymore; any idea how to properly service and adjust the buzzer?
And do I have to do any service of the magnetos yet?
Thanks
Klaus (Vienna)
--
_
Klaus Dietrich
Oracle Financing EMEA
Tel/Fax: +43 1 33 777 825
http://www.oracle.com/financing_ (http://www.oracle.com/financing)
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| From: | Martin <longwayround(at)vodamail.co.za> |
| Subject: | New to the list. |
Hi All. I'm a final year studnet living in S.Africa. Ive heard this and that abt
the LOM engine. I hope to start building an a/c next year, so getting an engine
installed is only much further down the line.
Are there any interesting sites on the web about the LOM used in homebuilds (in
addition to Moritavias's site)?
How many people on the list?
Martin
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Martin <longwayround(at)vodamail.co.za> |
| Subject: | New to the list. |
Hi All. I'm a final year studnet living in S.Africa. Ive heard this and that abt
the LOM engine. I hope to start building an a/c next year, so getting an engine
installed is only much further down the line.
Are there any interesting sites on the web about the LOM used in homebuilds (in
addition to Moritavias's site)?
How many people on the list?
Martin
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Jeayers1(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: New to the list. |
Hi Martin,
I monitor this list.
Regards,
Jim Ayers
RV-3 with a LOM M332A engine and a 3 blade MT electric CS propeller.
In a message dated 03/28/2007 4:26:36 AM Pacific Standard Time,
longwayround(at)vodamail.co.za writes:
--> Lom-List message posted by: Martin
Hi All. I'm a final year studnet living in S.Africa. Ive heard this and that
abt the LOM engine. I hope to start building an a/c next year, so getting an
engine installed is only much further down the line.
Are there any interesting sites on the web about the LOM used in homebuilds
(in addition to Moritavias's site)?
How many people on the list?
Martin
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Chris Kinnaman <dogspiritnow(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: New to the list. |
Here is a site detailing installation of a LOM M332 in
a Bucker Jungmeister:
http://www.bucker.info/
click on "LOM Installation"
Chris
--- Martin wrote:
>
>
> Hi All. I'm a final year studnet living in S.Africa.
> Ive heard this and that abt the LOM engine. I hope
> to start building an a/c next year, so getting an
> engine installed is only much further down the line.
>
> Are there any interesting sites on the web about the
> LOM used in homebuilds (in addition to Moritavias's
> site)?
> How many people on the list?
>
> Martin
>
>
> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lom-List
>
> Web Forums!
>
>
>
>
>
Looking for earth-friendly autos?
Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center.
http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | speedtwin(at)onetel.com |
| Subject: | Re: Lom-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 07/08/07 |
I have been trying to match a fixed pitch prop to my LOM M332B engines for the
last 4 months without much success. I started with 79" pitch which gave a
static RPM of 1800 then to 75" pitch which gave 2000 static RPM and now I have
65" pitch for just under 2100 RPM. It appears that this engine has much lower
torque than an equivalent Lycoming/Continental. Does anyone have any
experience
with fixed pitch props and LOM engines? Or alternatively any experience
with CS
electronically controlled wooden/composite props with LOM engines?
Getting desparate,hope someone can help.
Malcolm Ducker
Speedtwin UK
Quoting Lom-List Digest Server :
> *
>
> =================================================
> Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive
> =================================================
>
> Today's complete Lom-List Digest can also be found in either of the
> two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted
> in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes
> and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version
> of the Lom-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor
> such as Notepad or with a web browser.
>
> HTML Version:
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 07-07-08&Archive=Lom
>
> Text Version:
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 07-07-08&Archive=Lom
>
>
> ===============================================
> EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive
> ===============================================
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Lom-List Digest Archive
> ---
> Total Messages Posted Sun 07/08/07: 0
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Today's Message Index:
> ----------------------
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Robert Feldtman" <bobf(at)feldtman.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Lom-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 07/20/07 |
Has anyone on the LOM list replaced the ignition wires to reduce radio noise
(RFI)? I'm thinking about doing that and converting to automotive spark
plugs as well. Thoughts?
bobf
On 7/21/07, Lom-List Digest Server wrote:
>
> *
>
> =================================================
> Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive
> =================================================
>
> Today's complete Lom-List Digest can also be found in either of the
> two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted
> in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes
> and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version
> of the Lom-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor
> such as Notepad or with a web browser.
>
> HTML Version:
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 07-07-20&Archive=Lom
>
> Text Version:
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 07-07-20&Archive=Lom
>
>
> ===============================================
> EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive
> ===============================================
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Lom-List Digest Archive
> ---
> Total Messages Posted Fri 07/20/07: 0
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Today's Message Index:
> ----------------------
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | New Realtime Spell Checker Added To Matronics Forums! |
Dear Listers,
Today 9/8/2007 I have added a new real-time spell checker function to all of the
BBS Forums at Matronics. When you reply or create a new message on the Forums,
you will notice that misspelled words will be high-lighted in yellow. If
you left-click on the word, you will be prompted with a drop-down list of suggested
spellings.
http://forums.matronics.com
Enjoy!
Matt Dralle
Matornics Email List and Forum Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | luke wuest <lukester(at)earthlink.net> |
Hello all,
I have been watching the list for a while and see very little activity. just wondering
if anyone is out there?
I just purchased a M332A powered aircraft and am wondering how the product support
has been lately? I am keenly aware of the problems in the past, but recently
all seems to be quite. Is this because everyone gave up on them or have they
improved?
I am aware of the fact that I will have to be the expert on the motor, and I don't
mind tickering. The a/c is strickly for fun so never has to fly, I can wait
around for parts if need be, just as long as they can be gotten eventually.
Thanks fo any and all input,
Luke in Wisconsin
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Robert Feldtman" <bobf(at)feldtman.com> |
My supercharger band broke on the way to OSH in my Glastar. Hand propped it
to start, flew back home and got a band - A&P replaced it all is AOK again.
Petr Prokop at LOM in Prague is great. He responds quickly to emails. is
very literate in english - they really do a good job of support - and yes
you will have to become your own expert. I called Joe Krybus in California
and he said no one in Texas knew about LOMs.... apparently a Mr Rundle in
Louisiana does
bobf
On 10/1/07, luke wuest wrote:
>
>
> Hello all,
>
> I have been watching the list for a while and see very little activity.
> just wondering if anyone is out there?
>
> I just purchased a M332A powered aircraft and am wondering how the product
> support has been lately? I am keenly aware of the problems in the past, but
> recently all seems to be quite. Is this because everyone gave up on them or
> have they improved?
>
> I am aware of the fact that I will have to be the expert on the motor, and
> I don't mind tickering. The a/c is strickly for fun so never has to fly, I
> can wait around for parts if need be, just as long as they can be gotten
> eventually.
>
> Thanks fo any and all input,
> Luke in Wisconsin
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Chris Kinnaman <dogspiritnow(at)yahoo.com> |
I have two projects that will be perfect for the LOM
engines. I have been reluctant to commit to buying a
LOM because there doesn't seem to be a lot of info re:
operating, amintaining, and just plain experiences
with them. The engines seem to be well-designed and
well put together but it sure would be nice to know
how they are with hours on them.
Luke, what airplane do you have?
I heard about Joe Krybus before and that he has
engineered a number of LOM installations on Buckers. I
would imagine he has a degree of familiarity and
experience with these engines. Do you have his snail
mail address?
Thanks,
Chris
--- luke wuest wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I have been watching the list for a while and see
> very little activity. just wondering if anyone is
> out there?
>
> I just purchased a M332A powered aircraft and am
> wondering how the product support has been lately? I
> am keenly aware of the problems in the past, but
> recently all seems to be quite. Is this because
> everyone gave up on them or have they improved?
>
> I am aware of the fact that I will have to be the
> expert on the motor, and I don't mind tickering. The
> a/c is strickly for fun so never has to fly, I can
> wait around for parts if need be, just as long as
> they can be gotten eventually.
>
> Thanks fo any and all input,
> Luke in Wisconsin
>
>
>
> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lom-List
>
> Web Forums!
>
>
>
>
>
Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.
http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Dave Austin" <daveaustin2(at)primus.ca> |
Robert,
For my files and just in case, would you send me the email addr of Petr
Prokop please.
The LOM in the Spitfire is running well but for ocassionally dropping a
plug in start-up/run-up. Fortunately I put a cylinder temp probe on all
six so can pin it down quickly.
I wonder, to all on this chat, with the "shower of sparks" device, is it
necessary to have the plug gaps so small? Could I help the above
problem with wider plug gaps, say 22 thou? Any other sugestions?
Dave Austin 601HDS - 912, Spitfire Mk VIII
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Robert Feldtman" <bobf(at)feldtman.com> |
You'd have to ask the factory, but 0.017 is what they call for. I had
thought about maybe converting to autoplugs, but wanted to use Bosch
iridiums and you can't adjust those plugs like a regular boot type. I
didn't. Just put new plugs in and it runs great. I am showing the
LOM/Glastar to a friend who may buy it from me. It is not IFR and I really
wanted that in an airplane - and dodn't wnat to spend the money to build it
to IFR myself although I could. Flew a Cherokee 235 today. Samy airspeed as
the Lom, but twice the fuel burn! 14 gals per hr vs 7 gals per hour. You are
smart to have the four cylinder probe system!
Petr.Prokop(at)lompraha.cz --A nice guy! Joe Krybus doesn't have an email. He
is somewhat curt on the fone, but every word is like gold.He sent us
detailed engineering drawings on the engine -
a great guy too!
bobf
On 10/14/07, Dave Austin < daveaustin2(at)primus.ca> wrote:
>
> Robert,
> For my files and just in case, would you send me the email addr of Petr
> Prokop please.
> The LOM in the Spitfire is running well but for ocassionally dropping a
> plug in start-up/run-up. Fortunately I put a cylinder temp probe on all six
> so can pin it down quickly.
> I wonder, to all on this chat, with the "shower of sparks" device, is it
> necessary to have the plug gaps so small? Could I help the above problem
> with wider plug gaps, say 22 thou? Any other sugestions?
> Dave Austin 601HDS - 912, Spitfire Mk VIII
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | November is Matronics Email List Fund Raiser Month! |
Dear Listers,
You've probably noticed that there are no banner ads or pop-up windows or spam
from any of the List and Forum services at Matronics. These include, for example:
The Email List Postings - http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse
The Email List Forum Site - http://forums.matronics.com
The List Wiki - http://wiki.matronics.com
The List Search Engine - http://www.matronics.com/search
This is because I have always enjoyed a List experience that was completely about
the sport we enjoy - airplanes - and not about advertising!
But running a high performance, highly available service like this isn't free and
a fair amount of money in terms of computer upgrades, business-class Internet
connectivity, and electricity. Consequently, many similar sites turn to advertising
to support these costs. Advertising that you have to look at each and
every time you read an email message or browse the their web site.
Rather than subject my List community to another constant commercial bombardment,
I have chosen to hold a PBS-like fund raiser each year in November to support
the continued operation and upgrade of the List services. It's solely through
the Contributions of List members that the Lists and Forums continue to be
possible!
During the month, I will be sending out a Fund Raiser reminder message every few
days and I ask for your patience and understanding during the month throughout
these regular messages. Think of them as PBS' Pledge Breaks... :-)
To minimize the impact of the Fund Raiser on the List community, I implemented
a new feature late last year specifically related to making Contributions. If
you are an Email List subscriber, once you make a Contribution using the online
web site, you will no longer receive the email from me regarding the Fund Raiser!
There are a couple of exceptions to this, however. If someone replies
to a Contribution message I've sent, you might receive that. Additionally, the
messages will always be posted to the Forums site. To a first order, however,
once you make a Contribution, you won't get my email messages about the Fund
Raiser for the rest of the month. For Contributions by check, the squelch
will take effect once the check is received.
There is a whole new line up of really great Contribution gifts this year! When
you make a qualifying Contribution, you can select one of the many free gifts
that are available during the Fund Raiser. These gifts are provided through
the generous support of a number of our industry's leading supporters including:
Bob Nuckolls - AeroElectric - http://www.aeroelectric.com
Andy Gold - Builder's Bookstore - http://www.buildersbooks.com
Jon Croke - HomebuiltHELP - http://www.homebuilthelp.com
Please visit these guy's respective sites, as they have some great products to
offer and are generously supporting the Matronics List Fund Raiser.
You can make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods this
year including using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. From the Contribution
site, you can select any one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying
Contribution amount. The Contribution page is pretty loooonnnnng this year
in order to list great selection of great gifts available so be sure to scroll
all the way to the bottom of the web page to see everything that's available!
Please make a List Support Contribution:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous support! Your Contributions
truely keep this operation afloat!
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Forum Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | List Fund Raiser |
Dear Listers,
Just a reminder that November is the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser month. I've
got a bunch of really nice incentive gifts this year. There's really something
for everyone!
Please make a Contribution today:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | What Listers Are Saying... |
November is Matronics List Fund Raiser month and a number people been sending some
really nice comments regarding the Lists. I thought I'd share a few below.
The Lists are completely supported by your Contributions. All of the bills for
new hardware, connectivity, and electricity are paid by the generous support
of the List members.
Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation of the List
and Forums:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
================= What Listers Are Saying ================
Flying and building is much safer with this List!!
Robert D.
Thanks for having and maintaining such a great resource to
all of us builders and flyers.
Wayne E.
Love the fact that you haven't caved to advertising!
Peter J.
..a great resource!!
Robert C.
Not building at the moment, but the Lists keeps me right
up to date with what's going on.
Chris D.
The web forum has been running great.
James O.
I enjoy this [List] site very much...
Paul C.
This is a great list!
Albert G.
..a valuable resource!
Roger C.
I am deployed to Pakistan right now, and being able
to go on-line and keep up with the aircraft discussions
helps keep the aircraft building dream alive in my mind!
Gregory C.
..fantastic service!
Roger M.
..clearly a work of passion!
Mike C.
It is a great service to us!
Kevin C.
The list is a wonderful resource...
Ralph O.
[The Lists] have been the single greatest resource in
building my RV-9A and now my RV-10.
Albert G.
..a valuable and always improving service.
Dick S.
STILL THE BEST BARGAIN AROUND!!
Owen B.
..such a valuable tool.
Jon M.
[The Lists] have been an invaluable resource for me
as a Zenith homebuilder.
David G.
The opportunity to meet (on line at least) many other
interesting builders and to make some new friends is
truly appreciated.
Albert G.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | If You Got This Email, You Haven't Made A Contribution Yet! |
:-)
Dear Listers,
If you received this particular Matronics List Email message, its because you haven't
yet made a Contribution to support your Lists! Implemented for the first
time last year, the Matronics system selectively sends out the Contribution
messages to those that forgot to whip out the 'ol credit card this year to support
the continued operation and upgrade of the Matronics Email Lists! Don't
you wish PBS worked that way? :-)
You heard that right. Once you make your Contribution, these support requests
messages during November will suddenly stop coming to your personal email inbox!
I wanted to implement something like this for a number of years, but it was
always such a daunting task to modify the back-end List processing code, that
I just kept putting it off. Finally last year, I just decided to bite the bullet
and put the code-pounding time it to make it work. A few days later, bam!
A working system!
I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support
the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware
and software that are required to run a List Site like this. It also goes to
pay for the commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the rather huge electric
bill to keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered
up. I run ALL of the Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which
allows me to control and monitor every aspect of the system for the utmost in
reliably and performance.
Your personal Contribution matters because when combined with other Listers such
as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up and running. I accept exactly
ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand
the pop-up ads and all other commercialism that is so prevalent on the Internet
these days and I particularly don't want to have it on my Email List site.
If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email
Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
[Please note the following regarding the selective posting system. There are certain
circumstances where you might still see a Contribution related message.
These situations include if someone replies to one of the messages, or when
using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum.
Since most of these are anonymous public access methods, there is no simple way
to filter them.]
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Post Mortem - Matronics List Pummeled By Spam... |
Dear Listers,
Over a 3-day period, Thursday 11/8 though Saturday 11/10, the Matronics Lists were
pummeled with over 450,000 spam emails causing posting delays and a few duplicate
messages. Yeah, I really said nearly half a million spams! The good
news is that I don't believe a single one of them actually made it to the Lists
thanks to the aggressive List filtering code and the Barracuda spam filter.
The bad news was that it caused quite a back log of email messages starting Friday
and continuing until late Saturday when I noticed that delivery seemed a bit
sluggish. By about 11pm on Saturday night, I had managed to get the backlog
cleared out of the spam filter by temporarily adjusting some of the filtering.
A check of the queues this morning, and everything looks like its working great
and there are no incoming filtering delays and spam levels appear to be back
to "normal".
There were a number of people asking what was going on, so I thought that I'd send
out a follow up post mortem on the event...
November is the annual List Fund Raiser. Your contribution directly enables me
to buy systems like the Barracuda spam filter that keep the List free of that
garbage. Please make a contribution to support your Lists!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | List of Contributors |
Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone
that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its sort of
my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Won't you take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors
(LOC)? As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems
at least - if not a whole lot more - valuable as a building/flying/recreating/entertainment
tool as your typical magazine subscription!
Please take minute and assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is
fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by popping a personal check in the mail to:
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PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps
these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about
how the Lists have helped you!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Value of the List... |
If you look forward to checking your List email everyday (and a lot of you have
written to say that you do!), then you're probably getting at least 0 or 0 worth
of Entertainment from the Lists each year. You'd pay twice that for a subscription
to some lame magazine or even a dinner out. Isn't the List worth at least
that much to you? Wouldn't it be great if you could pay that amount and get
a well-managed media source free of advertising, SPAM, and viruses? Come to
think of it, you do... :-)
Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support the
Lists?
Contribution Page:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Again, I want to say THANK YOU to everyone that has made a Contribution thus far
during this year's List Fund Raiser!! These Lists are made possible exclusively
through YOUR generosity!!
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists... |
Just a reminder that November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution
today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these great
List services!! And pick up a really nice free gift with your qualifying Contribution
too!
The Contribution Site is fast and easy:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [Please Read] Why I Have A Fund Raiser... |
Dear Listers,
Each year I like to explain why I have a Fund Raiser and also take the opportunity
to express why I think the List Services here provide a superior experience
over the commercial equivalents.
I use the List Fund Raiser each year to offset the costs involved with running
a high performance email list site such as this one. With the annual support from
the List members through the PBS-like Fund Raiser, I have found I can run
the entire site without having to inflect any of the members with those annoying
banner ads flashing up all the time trying to sell little-blue-pills or other
garbage nobody wants or needs. From the comments I've received over the years
regarding the Lists, the great majority of the members really appreciate the
non-commercialism of my List systems and don't mind my 'go-team-go' banter once
a year during November to encourage members to support the Lists.
I believe that the Lists services that I provide here offer many benefits over
the commercial equivalents in a number of ways. The first feature I believe to
be significant is that you cannot receive a computer v*rus from any of these
Lists directly. Each incoming message is filtered and dangerous attachments stripped
off prior to posting. I also provide a Photo and File Share feature that
allows members to share files and bitmaps with other members and everyone can
be assured that these files will be prescanned for any sort of v*rus before
they are posted. More recently, I have enabled limited posting of a number of
file formats including pictures and PDFs.
Another very important feature of this system in my opinion is the extensive List
Archives that are available for download, browsing, and searching. The Archives
go all the way back to the very beginning of each List and with the very
fast Search Engine, the huge size of some of the Archives is a non-issue in quickly
finding the data you're looking for.
And added just a couple of years ago is the new Email List Forum that allows members who prefer the Web BBS-style of List interaction. The beauty of the new List Forums is that they contain the exact same content that is distributed via email. Messages posted via email are cross-posted to the respective Forum and vice versa. The Forums also allow for another convenient method of sharing pictures and other files (http://forums.matronics.com ). Additionally, added recently is the List Wiki that allows members to build their own "Online List Encyclopedia" of sorts, documenting various aspects of their project for all to share ( http://wiki.matronics.com ).
I've been running email Lists and services under the matronics.com domain since
about 1989 starting with RV-List and 30 guys I knew and who where also building
RVs. It has grown into nearly 70 different aviation-related Email Lists and
an associated web site that receives over 34,000,000 hits each year!! Additionally,
the List Email system forwarded well over 77,000 postings last year, accounting
for an unbelievable 33,000,000 (yes, that's 33 MILLION) email messages
delivered to Matronics List subscribers! I think there's a lot of value in supporting
a service that has gone the long haul and is still providing and improving
a high quality service all _without any advertising budget_!
I have to admit running these Lists is a labor of love and I hope it shows in the
quality of the experience that you receive when you get a List Email Message,
Search the Archives, use the List Browser, or surf the Forums and Wiki sites.
The Lists will be here for a long time to come. If you just want to lurk a
while for free, that's great and I encourage you to do so. If you use, appreciate,
and receive value from these Lists, then please support them during the Annual
List Fund Raiser!
List Contribution Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | What Are You Thankful For...? |
Dear Listers,
Here in the United States, Thursday is our National day of Thanksgiving. Many
of us will be traveling to be with our families and friends to share in generous
feasts of plenty and giving thanks for many blessings that have been bestowed
upon us.
Many Listers have expressed over the last couple of weeks how thankful they are
for the Email Lists and Forums here on the Matronics servers and for all of the
assistance and comradery they have experienced being a part of the Lists.
One of my favorite kind of comments is when write to me and says something like,
"Its the first thing I do in the morning while I'm having my morning coffee!".
That's a wonderful tribute to the purpose and function of these Lists. Its
always great to hear I'm not the only one that jumps out of bed each morning
to check my List email!!
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| Subject: | [Please Read] What are "The Lists" and Who's This Matt Dralle? |
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| From: | "lwuest" <lukester(at)earthlink.net> |
Hello All,
Sorry it took awhile, I have been out of the country for a couple of weeks.
I bought the M332A powered Hatz built by Lorin Wilkinson in the 1990's. It has
a 28 volt engine system, with a Narco Voltage Converter to 12 volt for the rest
of the a/c. Knock on wood, so far it is running very well. Starts on the second
blade with the SlickSTART magneto booster.
Has anyone put a oil filter on their engine or just the screens? An thoughts? Also
what fuel are you burning, 100LL or autogas?
Thanks for the info,
Luke
--------
Luke Wuest
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=148870#148870
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| From: | "Dave Austin" <daveaustin2(at)primus.ca> |
I put an oil filter on the return line to the oil tank.
Was using autofuel 87 octane, but since it now contains 10% ethanol I
decided not to risk it and use Super grade Shell which so far has no
ethanol. (Canada).
I'd be interested on other people's comments on this one.
Dave Austin 601HDS - 912, Spitfire Mk VIII - LOM 337CE
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| From: | "Robert Feldtman" <bobf(at)feldtman.com> |
The builder of my glastar put a auto type oil filter - spin on type on my
332B. The oil seems very clean - absolutely nothing in the screens when I
have check them at 40 hrs and 85 hrs (CI) - I don't burn autofuel due to 1.)
the risk of getting ethanol (I don't care about the engine - it is the
unkown gaskets and O-rings that couldd issolve!) and 2.) burning only 7 gals
per hr, I don't mind the exorbitant av gas prices - better than the 30 gal
per hours in my twin commander!
Do you guys have oil drip problems? and radio noise (I suspect the spark
plug wires)
bobf
glastar 125GS
On 11/27/07, Dave Austin wrote:
>
>
> I put an oil filter on the return line to the oil tank.
> Was using autofuel 87 octane, but since it now contains 10% ethanol I
> decided not to risk it and use Super grade Shell which so far has no
> ethanol. (Canada).
> I'd be interested on other people's comments on this one.
> Dave Austin 601HDS - 912, Spitfire Mk VIII - LOM 337CE
>
>
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| From: | jeayers1(at)aol.com |
I have a Lom M332A on my RV-3.? It came as a 28 volt system, but I?converted it
to a 12 volt system.? I installed the SlickStart in place of the LOM vibrator.
I had oil temperature problems from the beginning.? I installed a oil cooler and
an oil filter between the engine outlet and the oil tank.? The oil temperature
dropped 25 degrees C.? The oil temperature now?stays in the middle of the green
arc in a continuous climb from sea level to 15,000' AGL.? Before the addition
of a small oil cooler, I couldn't climb above 11,000'.
I use 100LL.
Regards,
Jim Ayers
-----Original Message-----
From: lwuest <lukester(at)earthlink.net>
Sent: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 9:02 am
Subject: Lom-List: Re: New to LOM
Hello All,
Sorry it took awhile, I have been out of the country for a couple of weeks.
I bought the M332A powered Hatz built by Lorin Wilkinson in the 1990's. It has
a
28 volt engine system, with a Narco Voltage Converter to 12 volt for the rest of
the a/c. Knock on wood, so far it is running very well. Starts on the second
blade with the SlickSTART magneto booster.
Has anyone put a oil filter on their engine or just the screens? An thoughts?
Also what fuel are you burning, 100LL or autogas?
Thanks for the info,
Luke
--------
Luke Wuest
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=148870#148870
________________________________________________________________________
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| From: | "Dave Austin" <daveaustin2(at)primus.ca> |
Bob,
Yes to both of your questions.
Dave Austin 601HDS - 912, Spitfire Mk VIII
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| From: | "Robert Feldtman" <bobf(at)feldtman.com> |
Dave - I figured - I bought some special Magnecor spark plug wire, and
figured out what kinda auto spark plug would fit - I just can't figure out
how to take the spark plug wire off the magnetoes. They seem to be rather
tightly connected or pushed up in there. Might end up emailing
Czechoslovakia..... I broke the supercharger band and had to hand prop start
it on the way to Oshkosh -- they were very helpful in getting me a new band
and my A&P put it on. All fixed now.
If I get it fixed so it doesn't make so much RFI on the radio - I wil put a
note on the LOM thread here.
Oil dripping I can live with.
bobf
On 11/27/07, Dave Austin wrote:
>
> Bob,
> Yes to both of your questions.
> Dave Austin 601HDS - 912, Spitfire Mk VIII
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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| Subject: | Just Two Days Left... |
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| Subject: | [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser! |
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| From: | "Robert Feldtman" <bobf(at)feldtman.com> |
| Subject: | Slick start on LOM |
After 100 hrs, my shower of sparks has started to act up - it is mechanical,
but I hate to mess with cleaning and bending the spring -- In the past some
have posted about adding a slick start - Any suggestion as to the pin out
for the magneto-slick start hook up?. Seems my shower of sparks has a
voltage in, a lead to the start-magneto ground switch and a lead to the p
lead of the right magneto. I doubt the instructions will talk about the LOM
so I thought I'd ask early, even before A/C spruce gets me the slick start!
Thanks in advance -
bobf 125GS glastar/LOM 332B
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | luke wuest <lukester(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Slick start on LOM |
I am not the person that installed it on my M332A, but I will check out the wiring
and post in a day or three.
Luke Wuest
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Robert Feldtman" <bobf(at)feldtman.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Slick start on LOM |
thanks!
bobf
On 12/4/07, luke wuest wrote:
>
>
> I am not the person that installed it on my M332A, but I will check out
> the wiring and post in a day or three.
> Luke Wuest
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Robert Feldtman" <bobf(at)feldtman.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Slick start on LOM |
thanks!
bobf
On 12/4/07, luke wuest wrote:
>
>
> I am not the person that installed it on my M332A, but I will check out
> the wiring and post in a day or three.
> Luke Wuest
>
>
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| Subject: | Matronics List Fund Raiser - 2007 List of Contributors |
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| From: | "Robert Feldtman" <bobf(at)feldtman.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Slick start on LOM |
Luke - If you are out at the plane this weekend, I'd appreciate if you could
peek at the hookup for the slick start.
thanks!
bobf
On 12/4/07, luke wuest wrote:
>
>
> I am not the person that installed it on my M332A, but I will check out
> the wiring and post in a day or three.
> Luke Wuest
>
>
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| From: | luke wuest <lukester(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Rep: SlickSTART install |
Hello Bob,
Sorry it took awhile for me to post. I did not have a chance to get to the airport
until today.
My SlickStart is Model# SS1001 series A. Believe it or not, it is installed exactly
like the starter vibrator. My aircraft is setup a little different than most,
I have a separate mag switch, starter switch and an ignition boost button,
just like allot of antique radial powered aircraft.
The SlickSTART has 5 connections on it, 1, 2, 3, VIN, GND. The posts marked 2
and 3 have no connections.
The VIN post receives voltage from my starter switch positive solenoid contact,
this is wired thru my ignition boost switch. Voltage into the SlickSTART should
only be applied when the starter is engaged, my install takes it a step further
and only allows voltage in when the starter is engaged and the ignition boost
button is held in.
The GND post is wired to my magneto switch external ground post.
Post #1 has 3 wires attached to it. A heavy one going to the R/H magneto P-lead,
and two light gage wires going into my Mag switch. I have to do more research
into my mag switch install. There is a connector on the back with six wires
going internally into the switch, 2 of the wires are from the SlickStart number
1 post and I don't know what any of them do. Unfortunately it is very hard to
get at, I have to stand on my head in the rear cockpit (open cockpit biplane)
and work WAY up under the panel. I will try to gather more info and post.
Unison Industries has published a service letter on the different ways to install
the SlickSTART box, it is number SL2-96 and gives some incite into the different
ignition boost systems. Th standard LOM system is very similar to the "install
to replace starting vibrators that do not include a relay" system.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Robert Feldtman" <bobf(at)feldtman.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Rep: SlickSTART install |
Luke - thank you very much - this is of great help. the only problem now is
that they are indefinite back order from Unisom according the A/C spruce. So
- guess I'll button her up now that I have the buzzer working and wait til
the slick start shows up and put it in with the great information you have
given me.
I'll let you know how it goes.
thanks again and Merry Christmas
bobf
On 12/11/07, luke wuest wrote:
>
>
> Hello Bob,
>
> Sorry it took awhile for me to post. I did not have a chance to get to the
> airport until today.
>
> My SlickStart is Model# SS1001 series A. Believe it or not, it is
> installed exactly like the starter vibrator. My aircraft is setup a little
> different than most, I have a separate mag switch, starter switch and an
> ignition boost button, just like allot of antique radial powered aircraft.
>
> The SlickSTART has 5 connections on it, 1, 2, 3, VIN, GND. The posts
> marked 2 and 3 have no connections.
>
> The VIN post receives voltage from my starter switch positive solenoid
> contact, this is wired thru my ignition boost switch. Voltage into the
> SlickSTART should only be applied when the starter is engaged, my install
> takes it a step further and only allows voltage in when the starter is
> engaged and the ignition boost button is held in.
>
> The GND post is wired to my magneto switch external ground post.
>
> Post #1 has 3 wires attached to it. A heavy one going to the R/H magneto
> P-lead, and two light gage wires going into my Mag switch. I have to do more
> research into my mag switch install. There is a connector on the back with
> six wires going internally into the switch, 2 of the wires are from the
> SlickStart number 1 post and I don't know what any of them do. Unfortunately
> it is very hard to get at, I have to stand on my head in the rear cockpit
> (open cockpit biplane) and work WAY up under the panel. I will try to gather
> more info and post.
>
> Unison Industries has published a service letter on the different ways to
> install the SlickSTART box, it is number SL2-96 and gives some incite into
> the different ignition boost systems. Th standard LOM system is very similar
> to the "install to replace starting vibrators that do not include a relay"
> system.
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Dave Austin" <daveaustin2(at)primus.ca> |
| Subject: | Re: Rep: SlickSTART install |
Bob,
What did you find wrong with the buzzer? Just need the points cleaned?
So far, so good with mine - 40 hours plus quite a number of run-ups.
Dave Austin 601HDS - 912, Spitfire Mk VIII
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| From: | "Robert Feldtman" <bobf(at)feldtman.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Rep: SlickSTART install |
Actually, the points were clean, but must have been a couple thousandths
apart cause when I check across them, they were not contacting "at rest" -
so according to the engine manual, you just bend it slightly so it touches
the grounding post - then the ohmeter dropped to nothing. I have about 90
hrs on my LOM engine. It is part of the annual check which I had done to
clean them - I just didn't actually check the ohmeter til it was obvious
there was not spark to start it with. after adjusting, it started fine.
The slick starts will be shipping again soon according to Unisom who makes
them. Till then I will use the buzzer; but look forward to quicker starts
and less cranking.
bobf
On 12/11/07, Dave Austin wrote:
>
> Bob,
> What did you find wrong with the buzzer? Just need the points cleaned?
> So far, so good with mine - 40 hours plus quite a number of run-ups.
> Dave Austin 601HDS - 912, Spitfire Mk VIII
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Klaus Dietrich <klaus.dietrich(at)oracle.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Lom-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 12/11/07 |
concerning the Buzzer maintance you have to re-adjust it properly evry
50hrs or so; best done on a bench with a Multimeter and a stabilized
Voltage of 24V!
This is a bit tricky to do on the plane.
I take my buzzer out, dismount the contacts, clean them thouroughly with
a file (no holes, craters etc), reassemble and then adjust the gap to
the correct Amp. value (max 1,0Ah).
Take care when re-mounting the spring-contact that both contacts are
100% aligned and parallel to each other!
Adjusting the gap is done the following way:
* you need a 24V transformer (best with selective Amps) and an
Multimeter to read Amp
* put +24V on contact 3 or 1 and ground on contact 2 or 4
* have your Multimeter set to measure Ah (0-5Ah) and connected into the
circuit
* set your transformer to 24V and limit to max 2,0Ah!
* turn on the transformer with 24V and check the Ah (do not let it on
more than 20sec, otherwise the buzzer will get too hot!)
=> the correct Ah should be 1.0Ah (+/-0.2Ah)!
* to achieve the correct 1.0 A-setting, you have to bent very slightly
the moving part of the spring-contact with a small plier!
=> bending the spring in direction of the fixed contact will increase
the Ah
=> bending the spring away from the fixed contact will reduce the Ah
Hope this helps!
Klaus
Klaus Dietrich
Oracle Financing EMEA
Tel/Fax: +43 1 33 777 825
http://www.oracle.com/financing
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> 1. 11:11 AM - Rep: SlickSTART install (luke wuest)
> 2. 11:33 AM - Re: Rep: SlickSTART install (Robert Feldtman)
> 3. 12:32 PM - Re: Rep: SlickSTART install (Dave Austin)
> 4. 12:54 PM - Re: Rep: SlickSTART install (Robert Feldtman)
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> From: luke wuest <lukester(at)earthlink.net>
> Subject: Lom-List: Rep: SlickSTART install
>
>
> Hello Bob,
>
> Sorry it took awhile for me to post. I did not have a chance to get to the airport
> until today.
>
> My SlickStart is Model# SS1001 series A. Believe it or not, it is installed exactly
> like the starter vibrator. My aircraft is setup a little different than most,
> I have a separate mag switch, starter switch and an ignition boost button,
> just like allot of antique radial powered aircraft.
>
> The SlickSTART has 5 connections on it, 1, 2, 3, VIN, GND. The posts marked
2
> and 3 have no connections.
>
> The VIN post receives voltage from my starter switch positive solenoid contact,
> this is wired thru my ignition boost switch. Voltage into the SlickSTART should
> only be applied when the starter is engaged, my install takes it a step further
> and only allows voltage in when the starter is engaged and the ignition boost
> button is held in.
>
> The GND post is wired to my magneto switch external ground post.
>
> Post #1 has 3 wires attached to it. A heavy one going to the R/H magneto P-lead,
> and two light gage wires going into my Mag switch. I have to do more research
> into my mag switch install. There is a connector on the back with six wires
> going internally into the switch, 2 of the wires are from the SlickStart number
> 1 post and I don't know what any of them do. Unfortunately it is very hard to
> get at, I have to stand on my head in the rear cockpit (open cockpit biplane)
> and work WAY up under the panel. I will try to gather more info and post.
>
> Unison Industries has published a service letter on the different ways to install
> the SlickSTART box, it is number SL2-96 and gives some incite into the different
> ignition boost systems. Th standard LOM system is very similar to the "install
> to replace starting vibrators that do not include a relay" system.
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
>
>
> From: "Robert Feldtman" <bobf(at)feldtman.com>
> Subject: Re: Lom-List: Rep: SlickSTART install
>
> Luke - thank you very much - this is of great help. the only problem now is
> that they are indefinite back order from Unisom according the A/C spruce. So
> - guess I'll button her up now that I have the buzzer working and wait til
> the slick start shows up and put it in with the great information you have
> given me.
>
> I'll let you know how it goes.
>
> thanks again and Merry Christmas
>
> bobf
>
>
> On 12/11/07, luke wuest wrote:
>
>> Hello Bob,
>>
>> Sorry it took awhile for me to post. I did not have a chance to get to the
>> airport until today.
>>
>> My SlickStart is Model# SS1001 series A. Believe it or not, it is
>> installed exactly like the starter vibrator. My aircraft is setup a little
>> different than most, I have a separate mag switch, starter switch and an
>> ignition boost button, just like allot of antique radial powered aircraft.
>>
>> The SlickSTART has 5 connections on it, 1, 2, 3, VIN, GND. The posts
>> marked 2 and 3 have no connections.
>>
>> The VIN post receives voltage from my starter switch positive solenoid
>> contact, this is wired thru my ignition boost switch. Voltage into the
>> SlickSTART should only be applied when the starter is engaged, my install
>> takes it a step further and only allows voltage in when the starter is
>> engaged and the ignition boost button is held in.
>>
>> The GND post is wired to my magneto switch external ground post.
>>
>> Post #1 has 3 wires attached to it. A heavy one going to the R/H magneto
>> P-lead, and two light gage wires going into my Mag switch. I have to do more
>> research into my mag switch install. There is a connector on the back with
>> six wires going internally into the switch, 2 of the wires are from the
>> SlickStart number 1 post and I don't know what any of them do. Unfortunately
>> it is very hard to get at, I have to stand on my head in the rear cockpit
>> (open cockpit biplane) and work WAY up under the panel. I will try to gather
>> more info and post.
>>
>> Unison Industries has published a service letter on the different ways to
>> install the SlickSTART box, it is number SL2-96 and gives some incite into
>> the different ignition boost systems. Th standard LOM system is very similar
>> to the "install to replace starting vibrators that do not include a relay"
>> system.
>>
>>
>>
>
> ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________
>
>
> From: "Dave Austin" <daveaustin2(at)primus.ca>
> Subject: Re: Lom-List: Rep: SlickSTART install
>
> Bob,
> What did you find wrong with the buzzer? Just need the points cleaned?
> So far, so good with mine - 40 hours plus quite a number of run-ups.
> Dave Austin 601HDS - 912, Spitfire Mk VIII
>
> ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________
>
>
> From: "Robert Feldtman" <bobf(at)feldtman.com>
> Subject: Re: Lom-List: Rep: SlickSTART install
>
> Actually, the points were clean, but must have been a couple thousandths
> apart cause when I check across them, they were not contacting "at rest" -
> so according to the engine manual, you just bend it slightly so it touches
> the grounding post - then the ohmeter dropped to nothing. I have about 90
> hrs on my LOM engine. It is part of the annual check which I had done to
> clean them - I just didn't actually check the ohmeter til it was obvious
> there was not spark to start it with. after adjusting, it started fine.
>
> The slick starts will be shipping again soon according to Unisom who makes
> them. Till then I will use the buzzer; but look forward to quicker starts
> and less cranking.
>
> bobf
>
>
> On 12/11/07, Dave Austin wrote:
>
>> Bob,
>> What did you find wrong with the buzzer? Just need the points cleaned?
>> So far, so good with mine - 40 hours plus quite a number of run-ups.
>> Dave Austin 601HDS - 912, Spitfire Mk VIII
>>
>> *
>>
>> *
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Magneto P lead connectors |
| From: | Stephen Beaver <sbeaver(at)columbus.rr.com> |
I have been unable to locate P lead connectors for the PAL magnetos from any
of the usual sources. Can anyone help with a source please?
Thanks,
Steve
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Robert Feldtman" <bobf(at)feldtman.com> |
| Subject: | LOM engine feedback |
Finally - got LOM engine to start easy - Had the starter rewound, installed
a slick-start from Unison, and enlarged the primer fuel enjector opening -
starts very easily now. Thanks to all who have helped.
bobf
Glastar
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Dave Austin" <daveaustin2(at)primus.ca> |
| Subject: | Re: LOM engine feedback |
Hi Bob,
I have a 337CE in the Spitfire. The only way I can start it is at full
throttle, which must be doing some harm to the engine when cold.
Would you tell me more about the slik-start from unison. Is it easy to
install? Does it replace the "shower of sparks" unit? Would you send
me their email addr. please.
Thanks.
Dave Austin 601HDS - 912, Spitfire Mk VIII
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| From: | luke wuest <lukester(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Lom-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/18/08 |
Congradulations Bob, Hopefully it continues to run well. I just got mine out and
ran it for the first time in a month and a half, it fired right up, you will
come to love the slickstart.
Luke
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>From: "Robert Feldtman" <bobf(at)feldtman.com>
>Subject: Lom-List: LOM engine feedback
>
>Finally - got LOM engine to start easy - Had the starter rewound, installed
>a slick-start from Unison, and enlarged the primer fuel enjector opening -
>starts very easily now. Thanks to all who have helped.
>
>bobf
>Glastar
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| From: | "Robert Feldtman" <bobf(at)feldtman.com> |
| Subject: | Re: LOM engine feedback |
Dave - it from Unison.... Spruce sells them. it is very similar to the
"buzzer" which is model T technology - that the Czechs have with the engine.
It is a direct plug in - Luke Wuest on the LOM forum let me know about it.
It was very easy to install. I had issues with the starter (had it rewound)
and that is better now. The book says to start with the throttle half open.
It fires and runs pretty fast, but it is easy to pull it back. Google
Slick-Start Unison and that'll give you the information. in the past six
months they have gone upf rom 330 bucks to 425 bucks.
let me know if I can help!
bob
On 2/19/08, Dave Austin wrote:
>
> Hi Bob,
> I have a 337CE in the Spitfire. The only way I can start it is at full
> throttle, which must be doing some harm to the engine when cold.
> Would you tell me more about the slik-start from unison. Is it easy to
> install? Does it replace the "shower of sparks" unit? Would you send me
> their email addr. please.
> Thanks.
> Dave Austin 601HDS - 912, Spitfire Mk VIII
>
> *
>
>
> *
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Dave Austin" <daveaustin2(at)primus.ca> |
| Subject: | Re: LOM engine feedback |
Hi Bob,
A couple more questions,
What engine do you have and what magnetos?
Which if the slick-start models did you install? the 1001 or 1002?
Thanks again.
Dave Austin 601HDS - 912, Spitfire Mk VIII
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Robert Feldtman" <bobf(at)feldtman.com> |
I don't know how many lom-list viewers there are but for those of you with
the LOM engine, like Luke and others, I have had a great experience by
removing the old LUN buzzer from my 337-B and replacing with a unisom slick
start. it really starts fast now. I had actually ruined the starter, and
took it off and had the armature re-wound and the bearing re-machined at a
local automotive starter and alternator shop. It starts really sweet now -
second or third blade and it is running!
thought you should know
bobf
glastar with LOM
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Mike Pienaar <mjpienaar(at)shaw.ca> |
| Subject: | Help for new installation |
Saw a reference to this group on the net.
I am about to do a new installation of a M332CE and don't quite know
where to start, I've got nothing except the motor and prop firewall
forward.
I am based in Victoria BC, so if there is someone within a day or 2's
drive from Vancouver or Seattle, or if you know of somebody, that would
let me come and look at their installation I would appreciate it.
Look forward to hearing from you
Mike Pienaar
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Help for new installation |
| From: | Stephen Beaver <sbeaver(at)columbus.rr.com> |
You are in Luck! The continent=B9s greatest LOM expert, Pavel Novak is locate
d
on Victoria Island at Qualicom Beach.
Contact:
ZFF engines Ltd.
Pavel Novak
Address: 997 Robin Place, Qualicum Beach, B.C. V9K 2P4
Airport location: www.qualicumbeach.com/airport_index.asp
Airport Identifier: CAT4
E-mail: novakp(at)shaw.ca Telephone: 250-752-4597
Website: http://www.zffltd.com/
Steve
On 3/18/08 1:20 PM, "Mike Pienaar" wrote:
> Saw a reference to this group on the net.
>
> I am about to do a new installation of a M332CE and don't quite know wher
e to
> start, I've got nothing except the motor and prop firewall forward.
>
> I am based in Victoria BC, so if there is someone within a day or 2's dri
ve
> from Vancouver or Seattle, or if you know of somebody, that would let me
come
> and look at their installation I would appreciate it.
>
> Look forward to hearing from you
>
>
> Mike Pienaar
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lom-List">http://www.matronics.
com/N
>> avigator?Lom-List
>> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
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>>
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| From: | Mike Pienaar <mjpienaar(at)shaw.ca> |
| Subject: | Re: Help for new installation |
Re: Lom-List: Help for new installationThanks a lot, I will definitely
give him a call
Regards
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: Stephen Beaver
To: lom-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: Lom-List: Help for new installation
You are in Luck! The continent's greatest LOM expert, Pavel Novak is
located on Victoria Island at Qualicom Beach.
Contact:
ZFF engines Ltd.
Pavel Novak
Address: 997 Robin Place, Qualicum Beach, B.C. V9K 2P4
Airport location: www.qualicumbeach.com/airport_index.asp
Airport Identifier: CAT4
E-mail: novakp(at)shaw.ca Telephone: 250-752-4597
Website: http://www.zffltd.com/
Steve
On 3/18/08 1:20 PM, "Mike Pienaar" wrote:
Saw a reference to this group on the net.
I am about to do a new installation of a M332CE and don't quite know
where to start, I've got nothing except the motor and prop firewall
forward.
I am based in Victoria BC, so if there is someone within a day or
2's drive from Vancouver or Seattle, or if you know of somebody, that
would let me come and look at their installation I would appreciate it.
Look forward to hearing from you
Mike Pienaar
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| Subject: | Re: Help for new installation |
| From: | Stephen Beaver <sbeaver(at)columbus.rr.com> |
You could also visit http://www.moraviation.com/ Click on Manuals and
purchase the installation manual for the engine.
Steve
On 3/18/08 2:30 PM, "Mike Pienaar" wrote:
> Thanks a lot, I will definitely give him a call
>
> Regards
>
> Mike
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Stephen Beaver <mailto:sbeaver(at)columbus.rr.com>
>>
>> To: lom-list(at)matronics.com
>>
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 10:31 AM
>>
>> Subject: Re: Lom-List: Help for new installation
>>
>>
>> You are in Luck! The continent=B9s greatest LOM expert, Pavel Novak is lo
cated
>> on Victoria Island at Qualicom Beach.
>>
>> Contact:
>>
>> ZFF engines Ltd.
>> Pavel Novak
>> Address: 997 Robin Place, Qualicum Beach, B.C. V9K 2P4
>> Airport location: www.qualicumbeach.com/airport_index.asp
>> <http://www.qualicumbeach.com/airport_index.asp>
>> Airport Identifier: CAT4
>> E-mail: novakp(at)shaw.ca Telephone: 250-752-4597
>> Website: http://www.zffltd.com/
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/18/08 1:20 PM, "Mike Pienaar" wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Saw a reference to this group on the net.
>>>
>>> I am about to do a new installation of a M332CE and don't quite know w
here
>>> to start, I've got nothing except the motor and prop firewall forward.
>>>
>>> I am based in Victoria BC, so if there is someone within a day or 2's
drive
>>> from Vancouver or Seattle, or if you know of somebody, that would let
me
>>> come and look at their installation I would appreciate it.
>>>
>>> Look forward to hearing from you
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike Pienaar
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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| From: | Mike Pienaar <mjpienaar(at)shaw.ca> |
| Subject: | Re: Help for new installation |
Re: Lom-List: Help for new installationThanks,
I've ordered it to-day.
Regards
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: Stephen Beaver
To: lom-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: Lom-List: Help for new installation
You could also visit http://www.moraviation.com/ Click on Manuals and
purchase the installation manual for the engine.
Steve
On 3/18/08 2:30 PM, "Mike Pienaar" wrote:
Thanks a lot, I will definitely give him a call
Regards
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: Stephen Beaver <mailto:sbeaver(at)columbus.rr.com>
To: lom-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: Lom-List: Help for new installation
You are in Luck! The continent's greatest LOM expert, Pavel Novak
is located on Victoria Island at Qualicom Beach.
Contact:
ZFF engines Ltd.
Pavel Novak
Address: 997 Robin Place, Qualicum Beach, B.C. V9K 2P4
Airport location: www.qualicumbeach.com/airport_index.asp
<http://www.qualicumbeach.com/airport_index.asp>
Airport Identifier: CAT4
E-mail: novakp(at)shaw.ca Telephone: 250-752-4597
Website: http://www.zffltd.com/
Steve
On 3/18/08 1:20 PM, "Mike Pienaar" wrote:
Saw a reference to this group on the net.
I am about to do a new installation of a M332CE and don't quite
know where to start, I've got nothing except the motor and prop
firewall forward.
I am based in Victoria BC, so if there is someone within a day
or 2's drive from Vancouver or Seattle, or if you know of somebody,
that would let me come and look at their installation I would
appreciate it.
Look forward to hearing from you
Mike Pienaar
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| From: | Mike Pienaar <mjpienaar(at)shaw.ca> |
| Subject: | VISIT TO EDMONTON, ALBERTA, CANADA |
Re: Lom-List: Help for new installationHi All,
If I remember correctly there is somebody in Edmonton with a LOM
installation. I will be in Edmonton from late Saturday 28 June to
Tuesday 1 July and if you are there I would appreciate it if you could
show me your project. I would just like to see an installed engine and
it should not take more than a few minutes.
Many Thanks
Mike
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| Subject: | LOM ENGINE SPARK PLUGS |
| From: | "Bert Filippi" <bert(at)opes.com.au> |
Gentlemen,
I am looking for a set of spark plugs (L22.62 or L22.62A) for my Lom
Engine. Can some one help?
Is there an equivalent plug that I can use?
Regards
Bert
Bert Filippi
Perth
Western Australia
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| From: | Stephen Beaver <sbeaver(at)columbus.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: LOM ENGINE SPARK PLUGS |
Bert,
The ever increasing price of the LOM plugs is causing more and more
people to switch to automotive plugs and wires. The NGK 5123 DR8HS is
the plug to use. NGK also make some nice caps/wires which fit the
plugs and only need to be terminated at the magnet end.
As always, Pavel Novak is the authority on these things:
novakp(at)shaw.ca I believe he may stock the wires.
Steve
On Jun 24, 2008, at 10:21 PM, Bert Filippi wrote:
> Gentlemen,
> I am looking for a set of spark plugs (L22.62 or L22.62A) for my Lom
> Engine. Can some one help?
> Is there an equivalent plug that I can use?
> Regards
> Bert
>
> Bert Filippi
> Perth
> Western Australia
>
>
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| From: | "Robert Feldtman" <bobf(at)feldtman.com> |
| Subject: | Re: LOM ENGINE SPARK PLUGS |
I agree with Steve - I plan to switch to auto plugs and wires (due to RFI
radio noise from the old wires), just haven't done it - Pavel is the
authority. If you want to remain stock, the guys in Czechoslovakia are very
nice and can ship them, also Moravia.com in Canada sold me five of them last
year but they were something like 37 dollars apiece -
I'm wondering - any tricks with removing the wires from the magneto end to
do this? they seem rather tightely in there when I just loosen the grounding
connector tht holds it up in there. wonder if I have to take the magneto
apart (drop the bottom) to get the wires out?
bobf
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 9:21 PM, Bert Filippi wrote:
> Gentlemen,
>
> I am looking for a set of spark plugs (L22.62 or L22.62A) for my Lom
> Engine. Can some one help?
>
> Is there an equivalent plug that I can use?
>
> Regards
>
> Bert
>
>
> Bert Filippi
>
> Perth
>
> Western Australia
>
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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| From: | Mike Pienaar <mjpienaar(at)shaw.ca> |
Re: Lom-List: Help for new installationHi All,
Does anybody know if there will be a LOM installations at Arlington. If
so I would appreciate a contact number so that I can arrange to meet
Thanks
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Pienaar
To: lom-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 11:11 AM
Subject: Lom-List: VISIT TO EDMONTON, ALBERTA, CANADA
Hi All,
If I remember correctly there is somebody in Edmonton with a LOM
installation. I will be in Edmonton from late Saturday 28 June to
Tuesday 1 July and if you are there I would appreciate it if you could
show me your project. I would just like to see an installed engine and
it should not take more than a few minutes.
Many Thanks
Mike
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| From: | "Robert Feldtman" <bobf(at)feldtman.com> |
| Subject: | Re: LOM ENGINE SPARK PLUGS |
I got 10 of these NGKs for 19.95 over the internet - new! Has anyone changed
out the wires trying to get rid of RFI in the radio? I have some Magnecor
wires with rather high spiral wound inductance, and hope to change the wires
and plugs to the NGKs Next question is - since I am doing that, has anyone
also put a ferrite doughnut on the wire as well to soak up RFI - or is that
over-kill? I have a GX-65 radio works fine, but when I get far away from the
station I have to turn to squelch off and listen to the radio noise to hear
the ATC in the background of the spark plug noise. Not impossible, but
always trying to improve things!
It is RFI in that when I have the engine running on the ground, and turn it
off, the noise goes away; also, when I have the engine running and unplug
the antenna from the radio - the noise goes away (so do the received radio
signals of course)
bobf LOM in glastar.
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 9:30 PM, Stephen Beaver
wrote:
> Bert,
> The ever increasing price of the LOM plugs is causing more and more people
> to switch to automotive plugs and wires. The NGK 5123 DR8HS is the plug to
> use. NGK also make some nice caps/wires which fit the plugs and only need to
> be terminated at the magnet end.
>
> As always, Pavel Novak is the authority on these things: novakp(at)shaw.ca
> I believe he may stock the wires.
>
> Steve
>
>
> On Jun 24, 2008, at 10:21 PM, Bert Filippi wrote:
>
> Gentlemen,
> I am looking for a set of spark plugs (L22.62 or L22.62A) for my Lom
> Engine. Can some one help?
> Is there an equivalent plug that I can use?
> Regards
> Bert
>
> Bert Filippi
> Perth
> Western Australia
>
>
> *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lom-List
> blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://forums.matronics.com
> style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
> *
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| Subject: | Contribution Site URL Clarification |
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | List Fund Raiser |
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Fund Raiser List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution |
Today!
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists |
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Fund Raiser Lagging Last Year By Over 30%... |
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | What Members Are Saying... |
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Behind By 21% - Advertising May Be Needed...? |
Dear Listers,
The percentage of people making a Contribution to support the Lists this year is
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Dear Listers,
Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone
that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its sort
of my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Won't you take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors
(LOC)? As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems
at least - if not a whole lot more - valuable as a building/flying/recreating/entertainment
tool as your typical magazine subscription!
Please take minute and assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is
fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by popping a personal check in the mail to:
Matronics Email Lists
c/o Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps
these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about
how the Lists have helped you!
Best regards,
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Value of the List... |
If you look forward to checking your List email everyday (and a lot of you have
written to say that you do!), then you're probably getting at least $20 or $30
worth of Entertainment from the Lists each year. You'd pay twice that for a
subscription to some lame magazine or even just a single dinner out. Isn't the
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Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support the
Lists?
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during this year's List Fund Raiser!! These Lists are made possible exclusively
through YOUR generosity!!
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just A Few More Days... |
Dear Listers,
There are just a few more days left in this year's List Fund Raiser. There are
some great gifts available when you make a qualifying Contribution and there's
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the computers running, the electricity turned on, and the computer room AC cooling!
If you look forward to reading your List email each day, won't you please take
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Credit Card or Paypal:
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Personal Check:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
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Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just 3 Days Left - Please Make Your List Contribution Today! |
There are only three days left until the end of this year's List Fund Raiser.
Please take a minute to show your support as so many others have this year and
make sure YOUR name is on the forthcoming List of Contributors 2008!
Its quick and easy using the secure web site with a credit card or PayPal:
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or by sending your personal check to:
Matronics Lists c/o Matt Dralle
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(Please write your email address on the check!)
Thank you in advance for your support of these List services!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email and Forum Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | What Listers Have Been Saying |
Wow! Many of the members making a List Support Contribution this year have been
using the Comments field to leave a personal message about the Lists. Thank
you! I have included a number of them below. Please read over a few and see
if you perhaps can echo some of the same sentiments regarding the value of the
Lists to you...
There is only a couple more days left for this year's List Fund Raiser and we're
still way behind previous years. If you've been waiting until the last minute
to show your support, Now is the Time! Please make your Contribution and pick
up a great gift at the same time!
By Credit Card or Paypal:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or By Personal Check:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore, CA 94550-7227
Thank you in advance!!
Matt Dralle
Email List and Forums Administrator
Here is some of the great feedback members have been including along with their
personal Contributions this year...
Over the years, the info I have received from the RV-List has
saved me thousands of dollars, and dozens of hours of time by
helping me avoid bad purchases, pointing me at vendors with
low prices and excellent support, and providing solutions to
the typical head scratchers that you run into.
Kevin H
Valuable service. Best List(s) on the Internet!
George A
Please accept this token not as an indicator of what
this list has been worth to me this past year.
Lew G
Great information and entertainment.
Tim V
Thanks again for another great year of service. This
project would be beyond me if it were not for the list.
Moreover, the friendships I have found are worth their
weight in GOLD!
Robert B
Great support you provide to all the subscribers!
Freddie H
Read it every day.
PF B
Thanks for your excellent management of the Matronics
Lists! Your services are head and shoulders above the
rest.
James M
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Bill T
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and using the lists since 1999.
Richard D
Thanks for such a terrific site and for all the work and
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John R
A great service year after year.
John D
..another year of fantastic service.
Jerry B
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Arden A
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James M
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John S
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George R
Good service.
Gary G
The List is an invaluable resource!
William C
AeroElectric list is a great source of info and learning!
Janice J
Thank you, Matt for being there for us making it all happen
on the List for so many years - Great JOB!
Sam S
Thank you for providing a great venue. You definitely hit
the nail on the head with your solicitation asking if
readers look forward to receiving the email digests. I
certainly do and when I move from a dreamer to a builder, I
expect the anticipation will only increase.
Joe S
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Hans-Peter R
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Bryan K
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David G
Nice job!
Walt E
Good resource...
Robert P
Thank you for another great year!
Scott S
I could not do this without you...
Robert D
I believe I've been a list member for over a decade
now. Thanks for the service!
Tim L
Great List
Hendrik W
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Last "Official" Day Of The List Fund Raiser! |
Dear Listers,
Its November 30th and that means three things:..
1) Today I am now officially 45 years old...
2) It marks that last "official" day of this year's List Fund Raiser!
3) Its the last day I will be bugging everyone for a whole year!
If you use the Lists and enjoy the content and the no-advertising, no-spam, and
no-censorship way in which they're run, please make a Contribution today to support
their continued operation and upkeep. Your $20 or $30 goes a long way
to keep the List bills paid.
I will be posting the List of Contributors next week so make sure your name is
on it!
Thank you to everyone that has made a Contribution so far this year! It is greatly
appreciated.
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Email List and Forum Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | List of Contributors 2008 |
Dear Listers,
This year's Fund Raiser has drawn to a close and I want to thank everyone that
so generously made a contribution this year in support of the Matronics Email
List and Forum operation. Your generosity keeps the wheels on this cart and I
truly appreciate the many kind words of encouragement and financial reimbursement.
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| From: | Robert Feldtman <bobf(at)feldtman.com> |
I follow "the book" printed by LOM and shut down my LOM on the glastar with
the ignition. I always worry about a P lead problem and stand clear of the
prop when turning it through... I have shut down by cutting gas valve OFF
and letting engine die of fuel starvation. I note it is a little hard to
start later cause the fuel pump has no gasoline in it. this was posted on
the cozy list below.... how do others shut down their LOM?
bobf
Are you trying to get someone killed? You should NEVER shut down the engine
by killing the ignition. All you need is for a P-lead to break and you've
got a hot engine ready to fire up as soon as someone moves the prop. And
P-leads break from something as simple as a bird scouting around for a new
nesting place.
Folks - if I'm out of line, just let me know and I'll graciously back off,
but this sounds like a tragedy waiting to happen.
Phil Kriley
Cozy Mk IV Plans 1460
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: LOM shut down |
| From: | Stephen Beaver <sbeaver(at)columbus.rr.com> |
Oh please.
Rule number one: Follow the manufacturers instructions. The LOM family of
engines, and the ubiquitous Russian radials M14, ASH11 etc are all
certified engines throughout most of the world, which means that the engines
and the operating handbooks have been certified as being suitable and safe.
They all of them have automatic mixture controls and are all shut down with
the mag switch.
They also all of them use some form of electrical spark enhancement/timing
system (variations on the shower of sparks) to help them start, and have
magnetos that are reluctant to make enough spark when it is not being
employed.
It IS possible to start and engine without these, and it has happened, but
anyone who has tried to start an LOM or M14 with the buzzer out of
commission will know that it is a lot harder to do that on an engine with
impulse mags.
The fact that the engine stops when the mags are turned off indicates that
the P leads are functional. The chance of them failing after that AND of
someone swinging the prop AND of the engine deciding that despite having no
ignition retard or shower of sparks it WILL start is IMHO, minimal.
Yes you could claim that ANY risk is unacceptable in aviation, but the only
way to embrace that philosophy is to lock the hangar and throw away the key.
It is for each of us to decide what the risk threshold is and act
accordingly. Let's not get our panties in a knot because someone else's
threshold is different to our own.
Steve
On 4/3/09 8:41 AM, "Robert Feldtman" wrote:
> I follow "the book" printed by LOM and shut down my LOM on the glastar with
> the ignition. I always worry about a P lead problem and stand clear of the
> prop when turning it through... I have shut down by cutting gas valve OFF and
> letting engine die of fuel starvation. I note it is a little hard to start
> later cause the fuel pump has no gasoline in it. this was posted on the cozy
> list below.... how do others shut down their LOM?
>
> bobf
>
>
> Are you trying to get someone killed? You should NEVER shut down the engine
> by killing the ignition. All you need is for a P-lead to break and you've got
> a hot engine ready to fire up as soon as someone moves the prop. And P-leads
> break from something as simple as a bird scouting around for a new nesting
> place.
>
> Folks - if I'm out of line, just let me know and I'll graciously back off, but
> this sounds like a tragedy waiting to happen.
>
> Phil Kriley
> Cozy Mk IV Plans 1460
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: LOM shut down |
| From: | jeayers1(at)aol.com |
The LOM book says: shut down by switching off the ignition.
There is no mixture cut off in the LOM engine controls.? In fact, some LOM models
don't have any mixture control in the cockpit.
I have an electric pump between the fuel selector and the mechanical engine pump.?
The only thing it is good for is to pressurize the fuel system before the
engine start,? Kind of a bandaid.
The primer pump system?is still required.
I hope this helps.
Jim Ayers
RV-3 LOM M332A modified with automatic mixture control unit.
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Feldtman <bobf(at)feldtman.com>
Sent: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 5:41 am
Subject: Lom-List: LOM shut down
I follow "the book" printed by LOM and shut down my LOM on the glastar with the
ignition. I always worry about a P lead problem and stand clear of the prop when
turning it through... I have shut down by cutting gas valve OFF and letting
engine die of fuel starvation. I note it is a little hard to start later cause
the fuel pump has no gasoline in it. this was posted on the cozy list below....
how do others shut down their LOM?
bobf
Are you trying to get someone killed?? You should NEVER shut down the engine by
killing the ignition.? All you need is for a P-lead to break and you've got a
hot engine ready to fire up as soon as someone moves the prop.? And P-leads break
from something as simple as a bird scouting around for a new nesting place.
Folks - if I'm out of line, just let me know and I'll graciously back off, but
this sounds like a tragedy waiting to happen.
Phil Kriley
Cozy Mk IV Plans 1460
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: LOM shut down |
| From: | Robert Feldtman <bobf(at)feldtman.com> |
great feed back. thanks - and I will continue to follow the book!
bobf
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 7:41 AM, Robert Feldtman wrote:
> I follow "the book" printed by LOM and shut down my LOM on the glastar with
> the ignition. I always worry about a P lead problem and stand clear of the
> prop when turning it through... I have shut down by cutting gas valve OFF
> and letting engine die of fuel starvation. I note it is a little hard to
> start later cause the fuel pump has no gasoline in it. this was posted on
> the cozy list below.... how do others shut down their LOM?
>
> bobf
>
> Are you trying to get someone killed? You should NEVER shut down the
> engine by killing the ignition. All you need is for a P-lead to break and
> you've got a hot engine ready to fire up as soon as someone moves the prop.
> And P-leads break from something as simple as a bird scouting around for a
> new nesting place.
>
> Folks - if I'm out of line, just let me know and I'll graciously back off,
> but this sounds like a tragedy waiting to happen.
>
> Phil Kriley
> Cozy Mk IV Plans 1460
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Mike Pienaar" <mjpienaar(at)shaw.ca> |
| Subject: | Electrical, Fuel system and other questions |
Hi All,
I hope to be installing a supercharged M332 in the next couple of
month's and have a few questions after going through the engine
installation manual. The motor is still in the crate and sealed so I
can't look too closely to see what I've got.
It has a 12 volt alternator, will it have an internal or external
regulator and are there any other electrical pointers you can give me,
I've looked at the engine installation manual but the quality of the
printing is so poor I can hardly read anything.
Where do I get a starter buzzer?
For the fuel system, where do I get a "hand operated pump" or has
anybody found a substitute for this.
Has anybody built their own oil tank and do you have any plans or hints
for this.
I'm building a low wing aircraft, best place to see what it looks like
is here http://kisbuild.onfinal18.com/
Thanks for the help
Mike
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions |
| From: | Stephen Beaver <sbeaver(at)columbus.rr.com> |
Yes, you probably need a regulator. Can=B9t say which type without knowing th
e
alternator model.
Starter buzzers are advertised by Moravia =AD Perhaps there is one in the box
with your engine ?
You most likely don=B9t really need an external pump. The LOM fuel pump and
fuel injection system are one and the same. If it fails, an external pump i
s
not going to help. You could use a small Facet electric pump to prime the
plumbing on first start though.
You can make an oil tank or adapt one from another source. I made one from
cardboard to check fit, then cut it out of soft aluminum and had it welded
by an expert aluminum welder.
Good luck.
On 4/8/09 12:32 AM, "Mike Pienaar" wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I hope to be installing a supercharged M332 in the next couple of month's
and
> have a few questions after going through the engine installation manual.
The
> motor is still in the crate and sealed so I can't look too closely to see
what
> I've got.
>
> It has a 12 volt alternator, will it have an internal or external regulat
or
> and are there any other electrical pointers you can give me, I've looked
at
> the engine installation manual but the quality of the printing is so poor
I
> can hardly read anything.
>
> Where do I get a starter buzzer?
>
> For the fuel system, where do I get a "hand operated pump" or has anybody
> found a substitute for this.
>
> Has anybody built their own oil tank and do you have any plans or hints f
or
> this.
>
> I'm building a low wing aircraft, best place to see what it looks like is
here
> http://kisbuild.onfinal18.com/
>
> Thanks for the help
>
> Mike
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions |
| From: | Robert Feldtman <bobf(at)feldtman.com> |
I converted the buzzer to a slick-start - starts much faster - Buzzers are
about 500 bucks from Moravia in Canada. If you want mine, it is available
contact me off line (bobf(at)feldtman.com)
Ditto on the fuel pump. I do have a facet, for the purposes noted, and
actually, put a line with a electrical temporary valve to prime the engine
for start with the facet.
I've just encountered some problems with my LOM, huge oil usage, an engine
near failure on downwind at about 1000 feet, with sever rough and loss of
power thank goodness I was on a "downwind leg" as I was departing the
airport, and landed fine.
We'll see what gives.
I might be looking at some major work
bobf
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 6:56 AM, Stephen Beaver wro
te:
> Yes, you probably need a regulator. Can=92t say which type without knowin
g
> the alternator model.
> Starter buzzers are advertised by Moravia ' Perhaps there is one in the
box
> with your engine ?
> You most likely don=92t really need an external pump. The LOM fuel pump a
nd
> fuel injection system are one and the same. If it fails, an external pump
is
> not going to help. You could use a small Facet electric pump to prime the
> plumbing on first start though.
> You can make an oil tank or adapt one from another source. I made one fro
m
> cardboard to check fit, then cut it out of soft aluminum and had it welde
d
> by an expert aluminum welder.
>
> Good luck.
>
>
> On 4/8/09 12:32 AM, "Mike Pienaar" wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I hope to be installing a supercharged M332 in the next couple of month's
> and have a few questions after going through the engine installation manu
al.
> The motor is still in the crate and sealed so I can't look too closely to
> see what I've got.
>
> It has a 12 volt alternator, will it have an internal or external regulat
or
> and are there any other electrical pointers you can give me, I've looked
at
> the engine installation manual but the quality of the printing is so poor
I
> can hardly read anything.
>
> Where do I get a starter buzzer?
>
> For the fuel system, where do I get a "hand operated pump" or has anybody
> found a substitute for this.
>
> Has anybody built their own oil tank and do you have any plans or hints f
or
> this.
>
> I'm building a low wing aircraft, best place to see what it looks like is
> here http://kisbuild.onfinal18.com/
>
> Thanks for the help
>
> Mike
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| From: | "Mike Pienaar" <mjpienaar(at)shaw.ca> |
| Subject: | Re: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions |
Thanks for the response.
Bob, I would like to know a bit more about the electrical temporary
valve that you put in to prime the engine. A photo or general
description would be appreciated. Good luck with the repairs, hope it is
not as bad as it sounds.
Stephen, is the tank just a tank, if that makes any sense, the engine
installation manual shows 2 drainage valves and a de-aerator which looks
like a tube inside the oil tank that goes from the bottom to the top and
the top end is open inside the tank and the bottom of the tube is
connected to the engine. The manual is not very clear on what connects
to where. What capacity did you make the tank?
Thanks again for the help
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Feldtman
To: lom-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: Lom-List: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions
I converted the buzzer to a slick-start - starts much faster - Buzzers
are about 500 bucks from Moravia in Canada. If you want mine, it is
available contact me off line (bobf(at)feldtman.com)
Ditto on the fuel pump. I do have a facet, for the purposes noted, and
actually, put a line with a electrical temporary valve to prime the
engine for start with the facet.
I've just encountered some problems with my LOM, huge oil usage, an
engine near failure on downwind at about 1000 feet, with sever rough and
loss of power thank goodness I was on a "downwind leg" as I was
departing the airport, and landed fine.
We'll see what gives.
I might be looking at some major work
bobf
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 6:56 AM, Stephen Beaver
wrote:
Yes, you probably need a regulator. Can=92t say which type without
knowing the alternator model.
Starter buzzers are advertised by Moravia ' Perhaps there is one
in the box with your engine ?
You most likely don=92t really need an external pump. The LOM fuel
pump and fuel injection system are one and the same. If it fails, an
external pump is not going to help. You could use a small Facet electric
pump to prime the plumbing on first start though.
You can make an oil tank or adapt one from another source. I made
one from cardboard to check fit, then cut it out of soft aluminum and
had it welded by an expert aluminum welder.
Good luck.
On 4/8/09 12:32 AM, "Mike Pienaar" wrote:
Hi All,
I hope to be installing a supercharged M332 in the next couple of
month's and have a few questions after going through the engine
installation manual. The motor is still in the crate and sealed so I
can't look too closely to see what I've got.
It has a 12 volt alternator, will it have an internal or external
regulator and are there any other electrical pointers you can give me,
I've looked at the engine installation manual but the quality of the
printing is so poor I can hardly read anything.
Where do I get a starter buzzer?
For the fuel system, where do I get a "hand operated pump" or has
anybody found a substitute for this.
Has anybody built their own oil tank and do you have any plans or
hints for this.
I'm building a low wing aircraft, best place to see what it looks
like is here http://kisbuild.onfinal18.com/
Thanks for the help
Mike
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| Subject: | Re: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions |
| From: | Stephen Beaver <sbeaver(at)columbus.rr.com> |
A lot of the complexity in the tank shown in the manual comes from
accommodation of an inverted system. - Not something you will use much in a
KIS.
Basically you will need an outlet at the bottom, a return line near the top
,
a vent line and a filler cap. Not much more than that. I would make it of a
t
least 8 qts capacity, no more than 10 and plan to keep it 2/3 full.
Steve
On 4/8/09 7:14 PM, "Mike Pienaar" wrote:
> Thanks for the response.
>
> Bob, I would like to know a bit more about the electrical temporary valve
that
> you put in to prime the engine. A photo or general description would be
> appreciated. Good luck with the repairs, hope it is not as bad as it soun
ds.
>
> Stephen, is the tank just a tank, if that makes any sense, the engine
> installation manual shows 2 drainage valves and a de-aerator which looks
like
> a tube inside the oil tank that goes from the bottom to the top and the t
op
> end is open inside the tank and the bottom of the tube is connected to th
e
> engine. The manual is not very clear on what connects to where. What capa
city
> did you make the tank?
>
> Thanks again for the help
>
> Mike
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Robert Feldtman <mailto:bobf(at)feldtman.com>
>>
>> To: lom-list(at)matronics.com
>>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 9:03 AM
>>
>> Subject: Re: Lom-List: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions
>>
>>
>>
>> I converted the buzzer to a slick-start - starts much faster - Buzzers
are
>> about 500 bucks from Moravia in Canada. If you want mine, it is availabl
e
>> contact me off line (bobf(at)feldtman.com)
>>
>> Ditto on the fuel pump. I do have a facet, for the purposes noted, and
>> actually, put a line with a electrical temporary valve to prime the engi
ne
>> for start with the facet.
>>
>> I've just encountered some problems with my LOM, huge oil usage, an eng
ine
>> near failure on downwind at about 1000 feet, with sever rough and loss
of
>> power thank goodness I was on a "downwind leg" as I was departing the
>> airport, and landed fine.
>>
>> We'll see what gives.
>>
>>
>>
>> I might be looking at some major work
>>
>> bobf
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 6:56 AM, Stephen Beaver
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Yes, you probably need a regulator. Can=B9t say which type without knowi
ng
>>> the alternator model.
>>> Starter buzzers are advertised by Moravia =AD Perhaps there is one in th
e box
>>> with your engine ?
>>> You most likely don=B9t really need an external pump. The LOM fuel pump
and
>>> fuel injection system are one and the same. If it fails, an external p
ump
>>> is not going to help. You could use a small Facet electric pump to pri
me
>>> the plumbing on first start though.
>>> You can make an oil tank or adapt one from another source. I made one
from
>>> cardboard to check fit, then cut it out of soft aluminum and had it we
lded
>>> by an expert aluminum welder.
>>>
>>> Good luck.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/8/09 12:32 AM, "Mike Pienaar" >> <http://mjpienaar@shaw.ca> > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> I hope to be installing a supercharged M332 in the next couple of mon
th's
>>>> and have a few questions after going through the engine installation
>>>> manual. The motor is still in the crate and sealed so I can't look too
>>>> closely to see what I've got.
>>>>
>>>> It has a 12 volt alternator, will it have an internal or external
>>>> regulator and are there any other electrical pointers you can give me
,
>>>> I've looked at the engine installation manual but the quality of the
>>>> printing is so poor I can hardly read anything.
>>>>
>>>> Where do I get a starter buzzer?
>>>>
>>>> For the fuel system, where do I get a "hand operated pump" or has any
body
>>>> found a substitute for this.
>>>>
>>>> Has anybody built their own oil tank and do you have any plans or hin
ts
>>>> for this.
>>>>
>>>> I'm building a low wing aircraft, best place to see what it looks lik
e is
>>>> here http://kisbuild.onfinal18.com/
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the help
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ail Forum -
>>>>
>>>> ">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lom-List
>>>> ; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS -
>>>>
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>>>> ;- List Contribution Web Site -
>>>> ; -Matt Dralle, List Admin.
>>>> ://www.matronics.com/contribution <http://www.matronics.com/contributi
on>
>>>>
>>>>
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| From: | "Mike Pienaar" <mjpienaar(at)shaw.ca> |
| Subject: | Re: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions |
Re: Lom-List: Electrical, Fuel system and other questionsStephen, thanks
for your quick response, where does the vent line connect to or does it
just vent the tank overboard?
Thanks
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: Stephen Beaver
To: lom-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: Lom-List: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions
A lot of the complexity in the tank shown in the manual comes from
accommodation of an inverted system. - Not something you will use much
in a KIS.
Basically you will need an outlet at the bottom, a return line near
the top, a vent line and a filler cap. Not much more than that. I would
make it of at least 8 qts capacity, no more than 10 and plan to keep it
2/3 full.
Steve
On 4/8/09 7:14 PM, "Mike Pienaar" wrote:
Thanks for the response.
Bob, I would like to know a bit more about the electrical temporary
valve that you put in to prime the engine. A photo or general
description would be appreciated. Good luck with the repairs, hope it is
not as bad as it sounds.
Stephen, is the tank just a tank, if that makes any sense, the
engine installation manual shows 2 drainage valves and a de-aerator
which looks like a tube inside the oil tank that goes from the bottom to
the top and the top end is open inside the tank and the bottom of the
tube is connected to the engine. The manual is not very clear on what
connects to where. What capacity did you make the tank?
Thanks again for the help
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Feldtman <mailto:bobf(at)feldtman.com>
To: lom-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: Lom-List: Electrical, Fuel system and other
questions
I converted the buzzer to a slick-start - starts much faster -
Buzzers are about 500 bucks from Moravia in Canada. If you want mine,
it is available contact me off line (bobf(at)feldtman.com)
Ditto on the fuel pump. I do have a facet, for the purposes noted,
and actually, put a line with a electrical temporary valve to prime the
engine for start with the facet.
I've just encountered some problems with my LOM, huge oil usage,
an engine near failure on downwind at about 1000 feet, with sever rough
and loss of power thank goodness I was on a "downwind leg" as I was
departing the airport, and landed fine.
We'll see what gives.
I might be looking at some major work
bobf
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 6:56 AM, Stephen Beaver
wrote:
Yes, you probably need a regulator. Can't say which type
without knowing the alternator model.
Starter buzzers are advertised by Moravia - Perhaps there is
one in the box with your engine ?
You most likely don't really need an external pump. The LOM
fuel pump and fuel injection system are one and the same. If it fails,
an external pump is not going to help. You could use a small Facet
electric pump to prime the plumbing on first start though.
You can make an oil tank or adapt one from another source. I
made one from cardboard to check fit, then cut it out of soft aluminum
and had it welded by an expert aluminum welder.
Good luck.
On 4/8/09 12:32 AM, "Mike Pienaar" http://mjpienaar@shaw.ca> > wrote:
Hi All,
I hope to be installing a supercharged M332 in the next
couple of month's and have a few questions after going through the
engine installation manual. The motor is still in the crate and sealed
so I can't look too closely to see what I've got.
It has a 12 volt alternator, will it have an internal or
external regulator and are there any other electrical pointers you can
give me, I've looked at the engine installation manual but the quality
of the printing is so poor I can hardly read anything.
Where do I get a starter buzzer?
For the fuel system, where do I get a "hand operated pump" or
has anybody found a substitute for this.
Has anybody built their own oil tank and do you have any
plans or hints for this.
I'm building a low wing aircraft, best place to see what it
looks like is here http://kisbuild.onfinal18.com/
Thanks for the help
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| From: | Chris Kinnaman <dogspiritnow(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions |
Glad you're OK, Bob. Keep us in the loop about the problems.
Chris
--- On Wed, 4/8/09, Robert Feldtman wrote:
> From: Robert Feldtman <bobf(at)feldtman.com>
> Subject: Re: Lom-List: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions
> To: lom-list(at)matronics.com
> Date: Wednesday, April 8, 2009, 11:03 AM
> I converted the buzzer to a slick-start - starts much faster
> - Buzzers are
> about 500 bucks from Moravia in Canada. If you want mine,
> it is available
> contact me off line (bobf(at)feldtman.com)
> Ditto on the fuel pump. I do have a facet, for the purposes
> noted, and
> actually, put a line with a electrical temporary valve to
> prime the engine
> for start with the facet.
> I've just encountered some problems with my LOM, huge
> oil usage, an engine
> near failure on downwind at about 1000 feet, with sever
> rough and loss of
> power thank goodness I was on a "downwind leg" as
> I was departing the
> airport, and landed fine.
> We'll see what gives.
>
> I might be looking at some major work
> bobf
>
> On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 6:56 AM, Stephen Beaver
> wrote:
>
> > Yes, you probably need a regulator. Cant say which
> type without knowing
> > the alternator model.
> > Starter buzzers are advertised by Moravia Perhaps
> there is one in the box
> > with your engine ?
> > You most likely dont really need an external pump.
> The LOM fuel pump and
> > fuel injection system are one and the same. If it
> fails, an external pump is
> > not going to help. You could use a small Facet
> electric pump to prime the
> > plumbing on first start though.
> > You can make an oil tank or adapt one from another
> source. I made one from
> > cardboard to check fit, then cut it out of soft
> aluminum and had it welded
> > by an expert aluminum welder.
> >
> > Good luck.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 4/8/09 12:32 AM, "Mike Pienaar"
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I hope to be installing a supercharged M332 in the
> next couple of month's
> > and have a few questions after going through the
> engine installation manual.
> > The motor is still in the crate and sealed so I
> can't look too closely to
> > see what I've got.
> >
> > It has a 12 volt alternator, will it have an internal
> or external regulator
> > and are there any other electrical pointers you can
> give me, I've looked at
> > the engine installation manual but the quality of the
> printing is so poor I
> > can hardly read anything.
> >
> > Where do I get a starter buzzer?
> >
> > For the fuel system, where do I get a "hand
> operated pump" or has anybody
> > found a substitute for this.
> >
> > Has anybody built their own oil tank and do you have
> any plans or hints for
> > this.
> >
> > I'm building a low wing aircraft, best place to
> see what it looks like is
> > here http://kisbuild.onfinal18.com/
> >
> > Thanks for the help
> >
> > Mike
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| From: | Stephen Beaver <sbeaver(at)columbus.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions |
It just vents overboard to allow for expansion.
Steve Beaver
(614) 937 4189
On Apr 8, 2009, at 7:36 PM, "Mike Pienaar" wrote:
> Stephen, thanks for your quick response, where does the vent line
> connect to or does it just vent the tank overboard?
>
> Thanks
>
> Mike
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Stephen Beaver
> To: lom-list(at)matronics.com
> Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 4:23 PM
> Subject: Re: Lom-List: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions
>
> A lot of the complexity in the tank shown in the manual comes from
> accommodation of an inverted system. - Not something you will use
> much in a KIS.
>
> Basically you will need an outlet at the bottom, a return line near
> the top, a vent line and a filler cap. Not much more than that. I
> would make it of at least 8 qts capacity, no more than 10 and plan
> to keep it 2/3 full.
>
> Steve
>
> On 4/8/09 7:14 PM, "Mike Pienaar" wrote:
>
> Thanks for the response.
>
> Bob, I would like to know a bit more about the electrical temporary
> valve that you put in to prime the engine. A photo or general
> description would be appreciated. Good luck with the repairs, hope
> it is not as bad as it sounds.
>
> Stephen, is the tank just a tank, if that makes any sense, the
> engine installation manual shows 2 drainage valves and a de-aerator
> which looks like a tube inside the oil tank that goes from the
> bottom to the top and the top end is open inside the tank and the
> bottom of the tube is connected to the engine. The manual is not
> very clear on what connects to where. What capacity did you make the
> tank?
>
> Thanks again for the help
>
> Mike
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Robert Feldtman <mailto:bobf(at)feldtman.com>
>
> To: lom-list(at)matronics.com
>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 9:03 AM
>
> Subject: Re: Lom-List: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions
>
>
> I converted the buzzer to a slick-start - starts much faster -
> Buzzers are about 500 bucks from Moravia in Canada. If you want
> mine, it is available contact me off line (bobf(at)feldtman.com)
>
> Ditto on the fuel pump. I do have a facet, for the purposes noted,
> and actually, put a line with a electrical temporary valve to prime
> the engine for start with the facet.
>
> I've just encountered some problems with my LOM, huge oil usage, an
> engine near failure on downwind at about 1000 feet, with sever rough
> and loss of power thank goodness I was on a "downwind leg" as I was
> departing the airport, and landed fine.
>
> We'll see what gives.
>
>
> I might be looking at some major work
>
> bobf
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 6:56 AM, Stephen Beaver
> wrote:
>
>
> Yes, you probably need a regulator. Can=99t say which type
without kn
> owing the alternator model.
> Starter buzzers are advertised by Moravia =93 Perhaps there is
one in
> the box with your engine ?
> You most likely don=99t really need an external pump. The LOM
fuel pu
> mp and fuel injection system are one and the same. If it fails, an
> external pump is not going to help. You could use a small Facet ele
> ctric pump to prime the plumbing on first start though.
> You can make an oil tank or adapt one from another source. I made
> one from cardboard to check fit, then cut it out of soft aluminum
> and had it welded by an expert aluminum welder.
>
> Good luck.
>
>
> On 4/8/09 12:32 AM, "Mike Pienaar" http://mjpienaar@shaw.ca
> > > wrote:
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I hope to be installing a supercharged M332 in the next couple of
> month's and have a few questions after going through the engine
> installation manual. The motor is still in the crate and sealed so
> I can't look too closely to see what I've got.
>
> It has a 12 volt alternator, will it have an internal or external
> regulator and are there any other electrical pointers you can give
> me, I've looked at the engine installation manual but the quality
> of the printing is so poor I can hardly read anything.
>
> Where do I get a starter buzzer?
>
> For the fuel system, where do I get a "hand operated pump" or has
> anybody found a substitute for this.
>
> Has anybody built their own oil tank and do you have any plans or
> hints for this.
>
> I'm building a low wing aircraft, best place to see what it looks
> like is here http://kisbuild.onfinal18.com/
>
> Thanks for the help
>
> Mike
>
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| Subject: | Re: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions |
| From: | Robert Feldtman <bobf(at)feldtman.com> |
will let you know the final.
bobf
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Chris Kinnaman wrot
e:
>
>
> Glad you're OK, Bob. Keep us in the loop about the problems.
>
> Chris
>
>
> --- On Wed, 4/8/09, Robert Feldtman wrote:
>
> > From: Robert Feldtman <bobf(at)feldtman.com>
> > Subject: Re: Lom-List: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions
> > To: lom-list(at)matronics.com
> > Date: Wednesday, April 8, 2009, 11:03 AM
> > I converted the buzzer to a slick-start - starts much faster
> > - Buzzers are
> > about 500 bucks from Moravia in Canada. If you want mine,
> > it is available
> > contact me off line (bobf(at)feldtman.com)
> > Ditto on the fuel pump. I do have a facet, for the purposes
> > noted, and
> > actually, put a line with a electrical temporary valve to
> > prime the engine
> > for start with the facet.
> > I've just encountered some problems with my LOM, huge
> > oil usage, an engine
> > near failure on downwind at about 1000 feet, with sever
> > rough and loss of
> > power thank goodness I was on a "downwind leg" as
> > I was departing the
> > airport, and landed fine.
> > We'll see what gives.
> >
> > I might be looking at some major work
> > bobf
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 6:56 AM, Stephen Beaver
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Yes, you probably need a regulator. Can=92t say which
> > type without knowing
> > > the alternator model.
> > > Starter buzzers are advertised by Moravia ' Perhaps
> > there is one in the box
> > > with your engine ?
> > > You most likely don=92t really need an external pump.
> > The LOM fuel pump and
> > > fuel injection system are one and the same. If it
> > fails, an external pump is
> > > not going to help. You could use a small Facet
> > electric pump to prime the
> > > plumbing on first start though.
> > > You can make an oil tank or adapt one from another
> > source. I made one from
> > > cardboard to check fit, then cut it out of soft
> > aluminum and had it welded
> > > by an expert aluminum welder.
> > >
> > > Good luck.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 4/8/09 12:32 AM, "Mike Pienaar"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > I hope to be installing a supercharged M332 in the
> > next couple of month's
> > > and have a few questions after going through the
> > engine installation manual.
> > > The motor is still in the crate and sealed so I
> > can't look too closely to
> > > see what I've got.
> > >
> > > It has a 12 volt alternator, will it have an internal
> > or external regulator
> > > and are there any other electrical pointers you can
> > give me, I've looked at
> > > the engine installation manual but the quality of the
> > printing is so poor I
> > > can hardly read anything.
> > >
> > > Where do I get a starter buzzer?
> > >
> > > For the fuel system, where do I get a "hand
> > operated pump" or has anybody
> > > found a substitute for this.
> > >
> > > Has anybody built their own oil tank and do you have
> > any plans or hints for
> > > this.
> > >
> > > I'm building a low wing aircraft, best place to
> > see what it looks like is
> > > here http://kisbuild.onfinal18.com/
> > >
> > > Thanks for the help
> > >
> > > Mike
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| From: | Robert Feldtman <bobf(at)feldtman.com> |
Changed all the flexible oil lines, tired of the oil leaks off my LOM, and
also removed the stock spark plug wires (I didn;t, A&P did) - will see if
new Magnecor RFI surpression cables will improve the radio noise!
bobf
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| From: | "James Lewis" <james(at)lesslimited.com> |
Dear LOM List and Bob
Just thought I'd let you know that provided all goes well I should be
getting back 3 M332's from the factory (in 4 weeks) for our Aero 145
project in Australia.
2 of the engines were running but had not been looked over properly
since the 1960's.
Cheers
James Lewis
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Mark P <flybynight010(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Generator problems |
Hi folks.- I have an AK 337 with the factory 24volt generator.- The gen
erator has stopped working and I would like to have it rebuilt.- I know I
can get the replacement alternator, but it costs around $600-800.- Any i
deas?- Thanks=0A=0A=0A
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Generator problems |
| From: | Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com> |
Mark, How is it driven? You might be able to find a 24 volt alternator and
make a drive adapter for it. It you wanted to go to 12 volts there are a
number of small tractor dynamos (permanent magnet alternators) available
from John Deere and others. Again, a drive adapter would be required but
once done you'd have a ready source of replacement parts without the high
ticket price.
Rick Girard
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Mark P wrote:
> Hi folks. I have an AK 337 with the factory 24volt generator. The
> generator has stopped working and I would like to have it rebuilt. I know I
> can get the replacement alternator, but it costs around $600-800. Any
> ideas? Thanks
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Generator problems |
| From: | Stephen Beaver <sbeaver(at)columbus.rr.com> |
The LOM generator is a simple object, and is no different in design from an
y
other generator. - Any aircraft electrical specialist should be able to hel
p
you, or an automotive shop with an interest in the vintage market. A quick
Google search for =B3generator repair=B2 found 5 in the city where I live.
For an aircraft generator overhaul shop, I would start here:
http://www.aircraftaccessoriesofok.com/capabilities_i887911.html?catId=4002
5
If they won=B9t look at yours, they can probably suggest someone who will.
Are you certain it is the generator that has failed and not the control
box/wiring?
Steve
On 9/14/09 4:46 PM, "Mark P" wrote:
> Hi folks. I have an AK 337 with the factory 24volt generator. The gener
ator
> has stopped working and I would like to have it rebuilt. I know I can ge
t the
> replacement alternator, but it costs around $600-800. Any ideas? Thanks
>
>
>
>
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| From: | Mark P <flybynight010(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Lom-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 09/14/09 |
Thanks guys.- Steve, how do I tell if it's "the generator that has failed
and not the control
box/wiring?"- I've opened up the regulator and all the wires looked good.
- Unfortunatley, I'm a shade tree mechanic and everyone around here that
I ask about it looks at the engine and says they don't know anything about
it.- I'm not even sure how to test it other than my generator trouble lig
ht used to come on at low power settings, and now it doesn't come on at all
and my batteries are not getting a charge.-
I would rather have it rebuilt than put another in.- I'll look up your re
ference.
Rick, I don't know to make a drive adapter. But I can ask around.
Thanks
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From: Mark P <flybynight010(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Lom-List: Generator problems
Hi folks.- I have an AK 337 with the factory 24volt generator.- The gen
erator has stopped working and I would like to have it rebuilt.- I know I
can get the replacement alternator, but it costs around $600-800.- Any i
deas?- Thanks=0A=0A=0A- - -
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Subject: Re: Lom-List: Generator problems
From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com>
Mark, How is it driven? You might be able to find a 24 volt alternator and
make a drive adapter for it. It you wanted to go to 12 volts there are a
number of small tractor dynamos (permanent magnet alternators) available
from John Deere and others. Again, a drive adapter would be required but
once done you'd have a ready source of replacement parts without the high
ticket price.
Rick Girard
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Mark P wrote:
> Hi folks.- I have an AK 337 with the factory 24volt generator.- The
> generator has stopped working and I would like to have it rebuilt.- I k
now I
> can get the replacement alternator, but it costs around $600-800.- Any
> ideas?- Thanks
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
________________________________- Message 3- __________________________
___________
Subject: Re: Lom-List: Generator problems
From: Stephen Beaver <sbeaver(at)columbus.rr.com>
The LOM generator is a simple object, and is no different in design from an
y
other generator. - Any aircraft electrical specialist should be able to hel
p
you, or an automotive shop with an interest in the vintage market. A quick
Google search for =B3generator repair=B2 found 5 in the city where I li
ve.
For an aircraft generator overhaul shop, I would start here:
http://www.aircraftaccessoriesofok.com/capabilities_i887911.html?catId=40
02
5
If they won=B9t look at yours, they can probably suggest someone who will
..
Are you certain it is the generator that has failed and not the control
box/wiring?
Steve
On 9/14/09 4:46 PM, "Mark P" wrote:
> Hi folks.- I have an AK 337 with the factory 24volt generator.- The g
ener
ator
> has stopped working and I would like to have it rebuilt.- I know I can
ge
t the
> replacement alternator, but it costs around $600-800.- Any ideas?- Th
anks
>
>
>
>
le, List Admin.
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| Subject: | Re: Lom-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 09/14/09 |
| From: | Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com> |
Is the generator properly polarized? You'll have to find an old time
mechanic or instructions on the web. I'd try that first if it is indeed a
generator. As I recall you short between Field and positive battery
terminal, but it's been years since I had to do this on a VW generator.Well,
it turns out my memory is pretty good. Here's a You Tube video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV8FFgia7uU
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV8FFgia7uU>Rick
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Mark P wrote:
> Thanks guys. Steve, how do I tell if it's "the generator that has failed
> and not the control
> box/wiring?" I've opened up the regulator and all the wires looked good.
> Unfortunatley, I'm a shade tree mechanic and everyone around here that I ask
> about it looks at the engine and says they don't know anything about it.
> I'm not even sure how to test it other than my generator trouble light used
> to come on at low power settings, and now it doesn't come on at all and my
> batteries are not getting a charge.
> I would rather have it rebuilt than put another in. I'll look up your
> reference.
> Rick, I don't know to make a drive adapter. But I can ask around.
> Thanks
>
>
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