Pietenpol-Archive.digest.vol-jg
June 07, 2010 - June 20, 2010
erry Dotson
9 Daniel Johnson Rd
aker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
ibs and tailfeathers done
sing Lycoming O-235
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| From: | "Kringle" <Mrkringles(at)msn.com> |
Just signed up to the forum as I'm looking into building a Piet myself. I live
near Sidney Ohio (Russia) and would like to see one and perhaps take a ride before
I proceed. Can anyone recommend a local owner to me?
--------
John
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=300311#300311
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| From: | Jim Markle <jim_markle(at)mindspring.com> |
Darn, too bad you don't live closer to Cleveland...there's an old worn out Pietenpol
up there somewhere...some grouchy old guy flys it from time to time...smokes
pretty bad I've heard. (I better log off email before the REAL smoke starts
building up....)
Indy looks like a bit of a drive from your area but that's the direction I would
go. Or south to the Cincinnati area.
Actually, there are several in your general part of the country. You'll get to
look at some nice ones in the building AND flying stages.
I need to get to work so don't have time to put some names together for you but
I'm sure you'll hear back. And welcome! You'll find this list and the Piet
community in general to be very friendly and helpful.
jm in Baltimore for a couple days and ready to get back to the farm!
-----Original Message-----
>From: Kringle <Mrkringles(at)msn.com>
>Sent: Jun 7, 2010 8:04 AM
>To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: New member
>
>
>Just signed up to the forum as I'm looking into building a Piet myself. I live
near Sidney Ohio (Russia) and would like to see one and perhaps take a ride
before I proceed. Can anyone recommend a local owner to me?
>
>--------
>John
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=300311#300311
>
>
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| From: | "Kringle" <Mrkringles(at)msn.com> |
Thanks for the quick reply. I was hoping someone in the Dayton area would have
one. I am also considering a tip to Brodhead to see and talk with a few owners.
--------
John
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=300315#300315
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Official weight NX929DH |
| From: | "Pieti Lowell" <Lowellcfrank(at)yahoo.com> |
Dan,
Be sure that the A will turn 1800 RPM,s or better static, or at least during a
good run down the runway, or you may have a problem getting around the patch.
Douwe,s would only turn 1775 RPM with his prop, a very large problem, but when
I put my prop on his Ford it went to 2000 , the specs were supposed to be the
same. Let us know when you are going to do the flight stuff, I would like to
be around as an observer pro-tem.
Pieti Lowell
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________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | FW: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering on behalf of Charlie |
Miller
From: Charles Miller [mailto:Charles.Miller(at)palm.com]
Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 9:33 PM
Subject: RE: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
Tom Reeves sent these pictures from the flight this morning; one captures
the start of the exciting crosswind landing that Gary mentioned.
Thanks for everyone for making the Pietenpol gathering so much fun! My
wife, mother, and sister commented many times on all the wonderful people
they met; they really enjoyed it as well!
Charlie
PS
Did anyone ever find that air compressor?
_____
From: Gary Boothe [mailto:gboothe5(at)comcast.net]
Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 5:35 PM
Cc: Charles Miller
Subject: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
We just completed the Really First Official West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
at Frazier Lake Skypark, Ca! (And, Yes, there really is a "Frazier Lake"
seaplane base for all you amphib Pietenpolers!). This event was held in
unison with Frazier Lake's monthly Display Day, making it possible to see
and visit with airplanes and owners of some really cool stuff.
We actually had 3 flying Piets, 2 of which all of you Brodheaders have seen
(#.1554, Pietenpols as far as you can see.).
Special thanks to Mike Groah for helping to organize the event, and extra
special thanks to Charlie Miller and his wonderful wife and family for
hosting EVERYTHING!
Personally great for me, was to have my son Ryan go up with Charlie in
Ryan's first open cockpit ride (#...1108). Ryan is the good looking guy on
the right. He is smiling for obvious reasons. Charlie is the dashing pilot
on the left. Charlie is smiling because he just saved, with masterful
piloting skills, his beautiful Pietenpol from a near catastrophic landing
from a x-wind gust.
To our great enjoyment, and making it a truly sanctioned Pietenpol event, we
were blessed with the ubiquitous JIM MARKLE!! Since WE are neophytes when it
comes to Piet gatherings, and our conversations sometimes stray from the
point of the whole affair, Jim has the notorious special talent of steering
the conversation back to Pietenpols, and how these little airplanes add to
the meaning of life.
I'm sure there is no connection, but after Jim had left, on Sunday morning,
one of the local hanger owners wandered over to our camping area and asked
if anyone had seen his air compressor.seems it was 'lost.' I assured him
that these kinds of events are common at Piet gatherings, and that I was
sure that the air compressor wasn't really 'lost'..
Sorry, I did a poor job of photo essaying everything, and am hoping some of
my fellow builders did a better job!
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(19 ribs down.)
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5(at)comcast.net> |
John,
Brodhead? Now you're talking! No better way to start...the Elixir of
Pietenpolers...
Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
19 ribs done
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kringle
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 5:34 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New member
Thanks for the quick reply. I was hoping someone in the Dayton area would
have one. I am also considering a tip to Brodhead to see and talk with a
few owners.
--------
John
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=300315#300315
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Kringle" <Mrkringles(at)msn.com> |
I started my quest by joining the BPA today and putting out a request for a corvair
engine with the local Corvair car club.
--------
John
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________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5(at)comcast.net> |
If you haven't already, be sure to check out: www.westcoastpiet.com; and
www.flycorvair.com.
Gary
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kringle
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 6:16 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New member
I started my quest by joining the BPA today and putting out a request for a
corvair engine with the local Corvair car club.
--------
John
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| From: | "Jack" <jack(at)textors.com> |
| Subject: | turtle deck rear seat |
I believe I added 2". Check out some pictures for seat belt hard points
under the fuselage section www.textors.com.
Jack
DSM
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of schuerrman
Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 1:28 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: turtle deck rear seat
I'm working on my rear seat and turtle back and I'm having a hard time
making the numbers work. The builders manual says 12" radius, but to get
the numbers to work, I'm at 14". It looks low. My question is, is there
any negative consequences to raising it an inch and a half? It looks better
to me a little higher, and Ive seen some really raised.
Also, I have all of my seat parts cut and I want to install them, but I'm
wondering about seat belt and shoulder harness locations. Front seat lap
belt is no problem, and I've found the discussions on the front seat and
rear seat shoulder harnesses, but I haven't found any pictures of where the
slots for the rear seat lap belt is located.
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________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Kringle" <Mrkringles(at)msn.com> |
Please let me know via my email at mrkringles(at)msn.com
Thanks
--------
John
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| From: | "jordanlcarr" <jordan.carr.17(at)gmail.com> |
Hi everyone,
I am needing to order some capstrips and according to the plans it needs to be
1/2"x1/4". I looked on Aircraft Spruce's website and I called them, but they don't
carry any capstrips that size. I would appreciate some input on where I should
order from and how I could get the correct size. Thanks!
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=300359#300359
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jack" <jack(at)textors.com> |
| Subject: | West Coast Pietenpol Gathering |
Great shots thanks Mark! In picture 54, it appears the elevator cable is
routed through the horizontal stabilizer, is that true? Also, can you tell
me what picture 59 is?
Thanks,
Jack
DSM
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts
Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 10:09 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
It was indeed a grand day at Frazier Lake with all of the West Coast
Pieters!
I was able to meet some of the folks that were "just names on a list", and
see some of the folks that have met over the last year (Gary Booth, Mike and
Vic Groah, Mike Hardaway). It was a pleasure to actually see a Piet fly
(always new they did, just hadn't seen one in the air).
I uploaded the pictures of the event I took to an unlisted Google album, so
browse over an have a look at the fun!
http://picasaweb.google.com/RobertsChristmas2007/WestCoastPietGatheringJune5
2010?authkey=Gv1sRgCMWf8fffsvW-bg
<http://picasaweb.google.com/RobertsChristmas2007/WestCoastPietGatheringJune
52010?authkey=Gv1sRgCMWf8fffsvW-bg&feat=directlink> &feat=directlink
Many thanks to Charlie and his wife for all of the work involved in making
the day a great event!
Looking forward to many more of these :o)
Mark
On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Gary Boothe wrote:
We just completed the Really First Official West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
at Frazier Lake Skypark, Ca! (And, Yes, there really is a "Frazier Lake"
seaplane base for all you amphib Pietenpolers!). This event was held in
unison with Frazier Lake's monthly Display Day, making it possible to see
and visit with airplanes and owners of some really cool stuff.
We actually had 3 flying Piets, 2 of which all of you Brodheaders have seen
(#.1554, Pietenpols as far as you can see.).
Special thanks to Mike Groah for helping to organize the event, and extra
special thanks to Charlie Miller and his wonderful wife and family for
hosting EVERYTHING!
Personally great for me, was to have my son Ryan go up with Charlie in
Ryan's first open cockpit ride (#...1108). Ryan is the good looking guy on
the right. He is smiling for obvious reasons. Charlie is the dashing pilot
on the left. Charlie is smiling because he just saved, with masterful
piloting skills, his beautiful Pietenpol from a near catastrophic landing
from a x-wind gust.
To our great enjoyment, and making it a truly sanctioned Pietenpol event, we
were blessed with the ubiquitous JIM MARKEL!! Since WE are neophytes when it
comes to Piet gatherings, and our conversations sometimes stray from the
point of the whole affair, Jim has the notorious special talent of steering
the conversation back to Pietenpols, and how these little airplanes add to
the meaning of life.
I'm sure there is no connection, but after Jim had left, on Sunday morning,
one of the local hanger owners wandered over to our camping area and asked
if anyone had seen his air compressor.seems it was 'lost.' I assured him
that these kinds of events are common at Piet gatherings, and that I was
sure that the air compressor wasn't really 'lost'..
Sorry, I did a poor job of photo essaying everything, and am hoping some of
my fellow builders did a better job!
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(19 ribs down.)
--
Mark Roberts
California Laser Etch
www.california-laser.com
888-882-5015
888-882-5016 fax
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Dan Yocum <yocum(at)fnal.gov> |
On 06/07/2010 12:19 PM, jordanlcarr wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "jordanlcarr"
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I am needing to order some capstrips and according to the plans it needs to be
1/2"x1/4". I looked on Aircraft Spruce's website and I called them, but they
don't carry any capstrips that size. I would appreciate some input on where I
should order from and how I could get the correct size. Thanks!
Color me shocked! This can't be true. It's right there on their website:
http://aircraftspruce.com/catalog/wppages/capstrip.php
Call them again and I'm sure you'll get a different answer from a
different rep.
Dan
--
Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Ryan Mueller <rmueller23(at)gmail.com> |
Yes they do.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/wppages/capstrip.php
<http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/wppages/capstrip.php>Look at the
table: 1/4" thick, then go over to 1/2" wide, $0.32 per lineal foot, part
number 02-11700. Figure out how many feet you need and enter that in the
quantity, and then specify the length you want each piece cut in the special
instructions box below if you are going to order online. Personally, I would
just call them up and give them that part number for 1/4"x1/2" spruce
capstrip and explain exactly how much you want and how you want it cut to
avoid any errors.
If I recall correctly, 500 feet cut into 6 foot lengths should be
sufficient. Check the archives to be sure, or maybe someone else can chime
in. Don't forget to order your plywood and adhesive.
Ryan
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 12:19 PM, jordanlcarr wrote:
> jordan.carr.17(at)gmail.com>
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I am needing to order some capstrips and according to the plans it needs to
> be 1/2"x1/4". I looked on Aircraft Spruce's website and I called them, but
> they don't carry any capstrips that size. I would appreciate some input on
> where I should order from and how I could get the correct size. Thanks!
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=300359#300359
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "jordanlcarr" <jordan.carr.17(at)gmail.com> |
Thanks so much for the quick reply. I was looking in the wrong area! I am going
to order soon. Any idea on how long they take?
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=300373#300373
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Dan Yocum <yocum(at)fnal.gov> |
On 06/07/2010 12:31 PM, Ryan Mueller wrote:
> chime in. Don't forget to order your plywood and adhesive.
You may also want 6 feet of 1"x1/2" for the nose block piece. That's
probably more than you'll need.
Dan
--
Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Dan Yocum <yocum(at)fnal.gov> |
On 06/07/2010 01:05 PM, jordanlcarr wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "jordanlcarr"
>
> Thanks so much for the quick reply. I was looking in the wrong area! I am going
to order soon. Any idea on how long they take?
It's kind of hit-or-miss. 2 years ago I placed an order for capstrip
that took 6 weeks. It might be better or worse, now.
Dan
--
Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Official weight NX929DH |
| From: | "BYD" <bannerbill(at)att.net> |
helspersew(at)aol.com wrote:
> Jerry,
>
> What markings do I have to put on/near fuel tank filler?
> --
Allowable fuel type(s) and quantity.
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________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | West Coast Pietenpol Gathering |
Jack,
#54 is a pic of Scott Liefeld's Piet/GN1 hybrid. Note on the next pic how he
has modified his control cable to be external.that's why the routing thru
the stab. Interestingly, because of this, he has a HUGE baggage compartment
behind the pilot seat!
#59 is just a pic of his aileron cable fairing. I suspect they are
optional. I think he said his wings are cub wings, so the cable routing is
typical for that wing (whichever it was).
Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
18 ribs done
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 10:20 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
Great shots thanks Mark! In picture 54, it appears the elevator cable is
routed through the horizontal stabilizer, is that true? Also, can you tell
me what picture 59 is?
Thanks,
Jack
DSM
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts
Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 10:09 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
It was indeed a grand day at Frazier Lake with all of the West Coast
Pieters!
I was able to meet some of the folks that were "just names on a list", and
see some of the folks that have met over the last year (Gary Booth, Mike and
Vic Groah, Mike Hardaway). It was a pleasure to actually see a Piet fly
(always new they did, just hadn't seen one in the air).
I uploaded the pictures of the event I took to an unlisted Google album, so
browse over an have a look at the fun!
http://picasaweb.google.com/RobertsChristmas2007/WestCoastPietGatheringJune5
2010?authkey=Gv1sRgCMWf8fffsvW-bg
<http://picasaweb.google.com/RobertsChristmas2007/WestCoastPietGatheringJune
52010?authkey=Gv1sRgCMWf8fffsvW-bg&feat=directlink> &feat=directlink
Many thanks to Charlie and his wife for all of the work involved in making
the day a great event!
Looking forward to many more of these :o)
Mark
On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Gary Boothe wrote:
We just completed the Really First Official West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
at Frazier Lake Skypark, Ca! (And, Yes, there really is a "Frazier Lake"
seaplane base for all you amphib Pietenpolers!). This event was held in
unison with Frazier Lake's monthly Display Day, making it possible to see
and visit with airplanes and owners of some really cool stuff.
We actually had 3 flying Piets, 2 of which all of you Brodheaders have seen
(#.1554, Pietenpols as far as you can see.).
Special thanks to Mike Groah for helping to organize the event, and extra
special thanks to Charlie Miller and his wonderful wife and family for
hosting EVERYTHING!
Personally great for me, was to have my son Ryan go up with Charlie in
Ryan's first open cockpit ride (#...1108). Ryan is the good looking guy on
the right. He is smiling for obvious reasons. Charlie is the dashing pilot
on the left. Charlie is smiling because he just saved, with masterful
piloting skills, his beautiful Pietenpol from a near catastrophic landing
from a x-wind gust.
To our great enjoyment, and making it a truly sanctioned Pietenpol event, we
were blessed with the ubiquitous JIM MARKEL!! Since WE are neophytes when it
comes to Piet gatherings, and our conversations sometimes stray from the
point of the whole affair, Jim has the notorious special talent of steering
the conversation back to Pietenpols, and how these little airplanes add to
the meaning of life.
I'm sure there is no connection, but after Jim had left, on Sunday morning,
one of the local hanger owners wandered over to our camping area and asked
if anyone had seen his air compressor.seems it was 'lost.' I assured him
that these kinds of events are common at Piet gatherings, and that I was
sure that the air compressor wasn't really 'lost'..
Sorry, I did a poor job of photo essaying everything, and am hoping some of
my fellow builders did a better job!
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(19 ribs down.)
--
Mark Roberts
California Laser Etch
www.california-laser.com
888-882-5015
888-882-5016 fax
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
http://forums.matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Official weight NX929DH |
| From: | "899PM" <rockriverrifle(at)hotmail.com> |
Dan,
What head do you have on the "A"?
--------
PAPA MIKE
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________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Jack <jack(at)textors.com> |
| Subject: | Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering |
Thanks, very short aileron horn
Jack
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 7, 2010, at 1:39 PM, "Gary Boothe" wrote:
> Jack,
>
>
> #54 is a pic of Scott Liefeld=99s Piet/GN1 hybrid. Note on the
next pi
> c how he has modified his control cable to be externalthat
=99s why
> the routing thru the stab. Interestingly, because of this, he has a
> HUGE baggage compartment behind the pilot seat!
>
>
> #59 is just a pic of his aileron cable fairing. I suspect they are
> optional. I think he said his wings are cub wings, so the cable
> routing is typical for that wing (whichever it was).
>
>
> Gary Boothe
>
> Cool, CA
>
> Pietenpol
>
> WW Corvair Conversion
>
> Tail done, Fuselage on gear
>
> 18 ribs done
>
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-
> pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
> Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 10:20 AM
> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
>
>
> Great shots thanks Mark! In picture 54, it appears the elevator
> cable is routed through the horizontal stabilizer, is that true?
> Also, can you tell me what picture 59 is?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jack
>
> DSM
>
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-
> pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts
> Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 10:09 PM
> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
>
>
> It was indeed a grand day at Frazier Lake with all of the West Coast
> Pieters!
>
> I was able to meet some of the folks that were "just names on a
> list", and see some of the folks that have met over the last year
> (Gary Booth, Mike and Vic Groah, Mike Hardaway). It was a pleasure
> to actually see a Piet fly (always new they did, just hadn't seen
> one in the air).
>
> I uploaded the pictures of the event I took to an unlisted Google
> album, so browse over an have a look at the fun!
>
>
http://picasaweb.google.com/RobertsChristmas2007/WestCoastPietGatheringJun
e52010?authkey=Gv1sRgCMWf8fffsvW-bg&feat=directlink
>
> Many thanks to Charlie and his wife for all of the work involved in
> making the day a great event!
>
> Looking forward to many more of these :o)
>
> Mark
>
> On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Gary Boothe
> wrote:
>
> We just completed the Really First Official West Coast Pietenpol
> Gathering at Frazier Lake Skypark, Ca! (And, Yes, there really is a
> =9CFrazier Lake=9D seaplane base for all you amphib
Pietenpolers!).
> This event was held in unison with Frazier Lake=99s monthly
Display Da
> y, making it possible to see and visit with airplanes and owners of
> some really cool stuff.
>
>
> We actually had 3 flying Piets, 2 of which all of you Brodheaders
> have seen (#1554, Pietenpols as far as you can see).
>
>
> Special thanks to Mike Groah for helping to organize the event, and
> extra special thanks to Charlie Miller and his wonderful wife and
> family for hosting EVERYTHING!
>
>
> Personally great for me, was to have my son Ryan go up with Charlie
> in Ryan=99s first open cockpit ride (#...1108). Ryan is the good
looki
> ng guy on the right. He is smiling for obvious reasons. Charlie is t
> he dashing pilot on the left. Charlie is smiling because he just sav
> ed, with masterful piloting skills, his beautiful Pietenpol from a n
> ear catastrophic landing from a x-wind gust.
>
>
> To our great enjoyment, and making it a truly sanctioned Pietenpol
> event, we were blessed with the ubiquitous JIM MARKEL!! Since WE are
> neophytes when it comes to Piet gatherings, and our conversations
> sometimes stray from the point of the whole affair, Jim has the
> notorious special talent of steering the conversation back to
> Pietenpols, and how these little airplanes add to the meaning of lif
> e
>
>
> I=99m sure there is no connection, but after Jim had left, on
Sunday m
> orning, one of the local hanger owners wandered over to our camping
> area and asked if anyone had seen his air compressorseems it
was
> =98lost.=99 I assured him that these kinds of events are
common at
> Piet gatherings, and that I was sure that the air compressor wasn=99
t
> really =98lost=99.
>
>
> Sorry, I did a poor job of photo essaying everything, and am hoping
> some of my fellow builders did a better job!
>
> Gary Boothe
> Cool, Ca.
> Pietenpol
> WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
> Tail done, Fuselage on gear
> (19 ribs down)
>
>
> --
> Mark Roberts
> California Laser Etch
> www.california-laser.com
> 888-882-5015
> 888-882-5016 fax
>
>
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>
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>
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>
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| From: | "bubbleboy" <scott.dawson(at)optusnet.com.au> |
I ordered 100 x 6ft lengths of this size and it was 4 weeks from ordering to being
dropped at my door here in Australia!
Scotty
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Scotty
Tamworth, Australia
Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
www.scottyspietenpol.com
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| From: | V Groah <vgroah(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | West Coast Pietenpol Gathering |
I would like to add my thanks to Mike Groah and Charlie Miller for a well r
un event at a fine location. The planes=2C the food and especially the fel
lowship were all superb. As was said=2C it gave a chance to make list name
s real people with good ideas and nice personalities.
I would also like to thank the pilots who brought their planes to the meet.
I hope next year even more will come and there will be a chance to pick u
p even more ideas to make our own projects better. Maybe some day Mike and
I will have our plane there as well. (who knows=2C it may get done some d
ay) If I put in enough more money and time I may even get to own 41% and e
ven get a ride.
Set aside some time for the west coast meet next year. Maybe Jim can come
back and get some air tools to go with the compressor. Thanks to all that
came and made the meet a success.
Vic Groah MX414MV
From: gboothe5(at)comcast.net
Subject: Pietenpol-List: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
Date: Sun=2C 6 Jun 2010 17:34:53 -0700
We just completed the Really First Official West Coast Pietenpol Gathering
at Frazier Lake Skypark=2C Ca! (And=2C Yes=2C there really is a =93Frazier
Lake=94 seaplane base for all you amphib Pietenpolers!). This event was hel
d in unison with Frazier Lake=92s monthly Display Day=2C making it possible
to see and visit with airplanes and owners of some really cool stuff.
We actually had 3 flying Piets=2C 2 of which all of you Brodheaders have se
en (#=851554=2C Pietenpols as far as you can see=85).
Special thanks to Mike Groah for helping to organize the event=2C and extra
special thanks to Charlie Miller and his wonderful wife and family for hos
ting EVERYTHING!
Personally great for me=2C was to have my son Ryan go up with Charlie in Ry
an=92s first open cockpit ride (#...1108). Ryan is the good looking guy on
the right. He is smiling for obvious reasons. Charlie is the dashing pilot
on the left. Charlie is smiling because he just saved=2C with masterful pil
oting skills=2C his beautiful Pietenpol from a near catastrophic landing fr
om a x-wind gust.
To our great enjoyment=2C and making it a truly sanctioned Pietenpol event
=2C we were blessed with the ubiquitous JIM MARKEL!! Since WE are neophytes
when it comes to Piet gatherings=2C and our conversations sometimes stray
from the point of the whole affair=2C Jim has the notorious special talent
of steering the conversation back to Pietenpols=2C and how these little air
planes add to the meaning of life=85
I=92m sure there is no connection=2C but after Jim had left=2C on Sunday mo
rning=2C one of the local hanger owners wandered over to our camping area a
nd asked if anyone had seen his air compressor=85seems it was =91lost.=92 I
assured him that these kinds of events are common at Piet gatherings=2C an
d that I was sure that the air compressor wasn=92t really =91lost=92=85.
Sorry=2C I did a poor job of photo essaying everything=2C and am hoping som
e of my fellow builders did a better job!
Gary Boothe
Cool=2C Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion=2C mounted
Tail done=2C Fuselage on gear
(19 ribs down=85)
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| From: | "echobravo4" <eab4(at)comcast.net> |
just got mine Thursday- only took about a week
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Earl Brown
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I
intended to be.
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| From: | "GliderMike" <glidermikeg(at)yahoo.com> |
Today was jackpot day! :o In the mail today, my plans came from Don Pietenpol,
and my DVD from Mike Cuy came. Buster Brown brought the last of the books I
had been waiting to get here from EAA. Like Christmas in June. :D :D :D
Now all I need is an A&P job or some kind of job that will produce enough income
to pay bills, and buy wood. :o I put Mike's DVD in the computer (I have
Windows Vista on this one) and it started. It doesn't want to fast forward, or
skip ahead when I ask it to. It will pause when I ask it to, so hopefully, I
won't be limited to the DVD player to watch it. Another bonus for the day!
:D
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GliderMike, aka Mike Glasgow
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| Subject: | Re: Plans are here |
| From: | gboothe5(at)comcast.net |
Congrats Mike! Jobs are over rated...all you need is a sign, "Will work for Poplar."
Gary Boothe
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Sent: Jun 7, 2010 4:58 PM
Today was jackpot day! :o In the mail today, my plans came from Don Pietenpol,
and my DVD from Mike Cuy came. Buster Brown brought the last of the books I
had been waiting to get here from EAA. Like Christmas in June. :D :D :D
Now all I need is an A&P job or some kind of job that will produce enough income
to pay bills, and buy wood. :o I put Mike's DVD in the computer (I have
Windows Vista on this one) and it started. It doesn't want to fast forward, or
skip ahead when I ask it to. It will pause when I ask it to, so hopefully, I
won't be limited to the DVD player to watch it. Another bonus for the day!
:D
--------
Long flights, smooth air, and soft landings,
GliderMike, aka Mike Glasgow
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| Subject: | NX929DH complete, run up |
| From: | helspersew(at)aol.com |
Well, this evening after work the weather was cooperative, and I was able
to roll out my finished Piet and take some photos, and also run the Model
A for about an hour. How sweet it was............one shot of prime.......
..... pulled the prop through four blades with the mags off......mags on..
..................second pull she fired up. What a nice sound........ pock
et-a-pocket-a-pockat-a. The neighbors started to show up as soon as she fi
red. Got some help from the old-timer across the taxiway who lives with hi
s son and is a Model A car owner. He helped me immensely by using just his
ears to adjust the mixture screws. Only one small oil drip inside the cow
l. Couldn't be happier. Brodhead or bust!!!!
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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| Subject: | Re: Official weight NX929DH |
| From: | helspersew(at)aol.com |
Papa,
I have a "Dan Price" dual plug aluminum head. Snyder's Antique Auto Supply
owns the rights to this head now. I know they were out of these, but mayb
e now they have some.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Mon, Jun 7, 2010 2:29 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Official weight NX929DH
Dan,
What head do you have on the "A"?
--------
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| Subject: | Re: NX929DH complete, run up |
| From: | "Jerry Dotson" <jdotson(at)erec.net> |
Dan all I can say is wow. I have drooled all over my keyboard. Did you make the
prop. It it beautiful. I am having Jay Anderson build mine. I know how ready
you are to fly her. Again congratulations!
--------
Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
Ribs and tailfeathers done
using Lycoming O-235
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| Subject: | Re: NX929DH complete, run up |
| From: | Rick Holland <at7000ft(at)gmail.com> |
Love that prop, a real piece of art.
rick
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 7:22 PM, wrote:
>
> Well, this evening after work the weather was cooperative, and I was able
> to roll out my finished Piet and take some photos, and also run the Model A
> for about an hour. How sweet it was............one shot of prime............
> pulled the prop through four blades with the mags off......mags
> on....................second pull she fired up. What a nice sound........
> pocket-a-pocket-a-pockat-a. The neighbors started to show up as soon as she
> fired. Got some help from the old-timer across the taxiway who lives with
> his son and is a Model A car owner. He helped me immensely by using just his
> ears to adjust the mixture screws. Only one small oil drip inside the cowl.
> Couldn't be happier. Brodhead or bust!!!!
>
> Dan Helsper
> Poplar Grove, IL.
>
--
Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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| From: | "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | NX929DH complete, run up |
She's beautiful, Dan!
Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
18 ribs done
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Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 6:22 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: NX929DH complete, run up
Well, this evening after work the weather was cooperative, and I was able to
roll out my finished Piet and take some photos, and also run the Model A for
about an hour. How sweet it was............one shot of prime............
pulled the prop through four blades with the mags off......mags
on....................second pull she fired up. What a nice sound........
pocket-a-pocket-a-pockat-a. The neighbors started to show up as soon as she
fired. Got some help from the old-timer across the taxiway who lives with
his son and is a Model A car owner. He helped me immensely by using just his
ears to adjust the mixture screws. Only one small oil drip inside the cowl.
Couldn't be happier. Brodhead or bust!!!!
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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| From: | CJ Borsuk <cjborsuk(at)yahoo.com> |
=C2-Hey Guys =93 =0A=C2-=0AAnother lurker comes out in the open!
(Reading too much Richard Bach!) Ordered my plans over the weekend and buil
t a couple of the EAA workbenches last weekend. The basement shop is waitin
g. I am in Raleigh, NC and joined EAA chapter 1114 a few months back. We ha
ve a great chapter with a great group of homebuilders including a guy who h
angs out around here =93 Jack Phillips! I am looking forward to tappi
ng into all the knowledge both here and in chp1114. I can't believe I misse
d seeing Jack's Piet at our chapter's=C2-annual picnic two weeks ago!=0A
=C2-=0APlans ordered.=0ATony=99s books ordered.=0AMike=99s DV
D =93 watch your mail for my check.=0AShopping for wood.=0A=C2-=0AC
huck Borsuk=0Acjborsuk(at)yahoo.com=0ARaleigh NC=0A=0A=0A
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| From: | Jeff Boatright <jboatri(at)emory.edu> |
| Subject: | Re: NX929DH complete, run up |
Dan,
Great lookin' Piet! Where'd you get that compass hanging down from
the underside of the wing? Does true well?
Thanks,
Jeff
--
Jeff Boatright
"Now let's think about this..."
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| Subject: | Re: NX929DH complete, run up |
| From: | "GliderMike" <glidermikeg(at)yahoo.com> |
Beautiful! Even though the prop shape is new technology, it makes everything look
even more like an Antique Classic. It is definitely a Classic. The panels
are beautiful, as well as all the other little touches you have done. How much
work is it going to be to keep the brass shiny on the radiator? I had decided
shortly after I ordered my plans, I had to have the big wheels. Thought
I wanted spokes, but I'm not sure after seeing your photos. It really looks good
now. I'm definitely envious.
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| From: | "jordanlcarr" <jordan.carr.17(at)gmail.com> |
Thanks for all the input. I will be ordering the materials shortly. Hopefully they
come quick!
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| Subject: | Re: NX929DH complete, run up |
| From: | "echobravo4" <eab4(at)comcast.net> |
Wow! absolutely Beautiful!
--------
Earl Brown
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I
intended to be.
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| From: | "Clif Dawson" <CDAWSON5854(at)shaw.ca> |
| Subject: | Re: turtle deck rear seat |
Here's mine. The back is 7 1/2" tall and oval shaped
to get the transition from TB to fuse sides more in
line. The harness exit is even with my shoulders.
Clif
>
My question is, is there any negative consequences to raising it an inch and
a half? It looks better to me a little higher, and Ive seen some really
raised.
>
> Also, I have all of my seat parts cut and I want to install them, but I'm
> wondering about seat belt and shoulder harness locations. Front seat lap
> belt is no problem, and I've found the discussions on the front seat and
> rear seat shoulder harnesses, but I haven't found any pictures of where
> the slots for the rear seat lap belt is located.
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| Subject: | Re: Plans are here |
| From: | "bubbleboy" <scott.dawson(at)optusnet.com.au> |
Mike...what program on your PC are you using to play Mike Cuys DVD? I have one
but cant play it on anything here. I have Vista and curious how you do it.
Scotty
Australia
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Scotty
Tamworth, Australia
Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
www.scottyspietenpol.com
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| From: | "Jack" <jack(at)textors.com> |
| Subject: | NX929DH complete, run up |
Dan,
What a beautiful ship! Best of luck with your flight testing.
Jack
DSM
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helspersew(at)aol.com
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 8:22 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: NX929DH complete, run up
Well, this evening after work the weather was cooperative, and I was able to
roll out my finished Piet and take some photos, and also run the Model A for
about an hour. How sweet it was............one shot of prime............
pulled the prop through four blades with the mags off......mags
on....................second pull she fired up. What a nice sound........
pocket-a-pocket-a-pockat-a. The neighbors started to show up as soon as she
fired. Got some help from the old-timer across the taxiway who lives with
his son and is a Model A car owner. He helped me immensely by using just his
ears to adjust the mixture screws. Only one small oil drip inside the cowl.
Couldn't be happier. Brodhead or bust!!!!
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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| From: | "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | NX929DH complete, run up |
She's a beauty, Dan.
Say, how long are your neighbor's ears, that he used to adjust the mixture
screws? Is he a Vulcan, or an Elf?
Sorry, couldn't resist.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Raleigh, NC
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helspersew(at)aol.com
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 9:22 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: NX929DH complete, run up
Well, this evening after work the weather was cooperative, and I was able to
roll out my finished Piet and take some photos, and also run the Model A for
about an hour. How sweet it was............one shot of prime............
pulled the prop through four blades with the mags off......mags
on....................second pull she fired up. What a nice sound........
pocket-a-pocket-a-pockat-a. The neighbors started to show up as soon as she
fired. Got some help from the old-timer across the taxiway who lives with
his son and is a Model A car owner. He helped me immensely by using just his
ears to adjust the mixture screws. Only one small oil drip inside the cowl.
Couldn't be happier. Brodhead or bust!!!!
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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| Subject: | Re: NX929DH complete, run up |
| From: | helspersew(at)aol.com |
Thanks Jeff,
I found that compass on Ebay. Great place to find stuff if you have the ti
me to look. It is German with a bubble face. It appears like a good one wi
th many little adjustment knobs. Now all I have to do is learn German so
I can read what it says.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Boatright <jboatri(at)emory.edu>
Sent: Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:26 pm
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: NX929DH complete, run up
Dan,
Great lookin' Piet! Where'd you get that compass hanging down from the und
erside of the wing? Does true well?
Thanks,
Jeff
--
Jeff Boatright
"Now let's think about this..."
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| Subject: | Re: Official weight NX929DH and nearing initial flight |
| From: | helspersew(at)aol.com |
Piete,
The A runs static at 1860 RPM. I really got lucky that my first carved pro
p ever, came out so good and close to where it should be. I took a lot af
advice from the archives and also Ken Perkins as to what the pitch should
be (76/46). The first initial flight will be done with only necessary saf
ety crew and observers. After that I would be glad to have any and all com
e out and watch/chat/kabitz.
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From: Pieti Lowell <Lowellcfrank(at)yahoo.com>
Sent: Mon, Jun 7, 2010 7:45 am
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Official weight NX929DH
om>
Dan,
e sure that the A will turn 1800 RPM,s or better static, or at least durin
g a
ood run down the runway, or you may have a problem getting around the patc
h.
ouwe,s would only turn 1775 RPM with his prop, a very large problem, but
when I
ut my prop on his Ford it went to 2000 , the specs were supposed to be the
ame. Let us know when you are going to do the flight stuff, I would like
to be
round as an observer pro-tem.
ieti Lowell
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| Subject: | Re: NX929DH complete, run up |
| From: | helspersew(at)aol.com |
Thanks Tim,
I think you are referring to the (perpetual) carb heat shroud surrounding
the #1 cylinder, and the arched intake tube that goes down into the carb
intake. This is a-la-Ken Perkins. I unashamedly copied many of the better
features that others have done where saw fit.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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From: Tim Willis <timothywillis(at)earthlink.net>
Sent: Mon, Jun 7, 2010 10:49 pm
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: NX929DH complete, run up
net>
Dan, it is magnificent. See my more detailed rant sent personally to you
and to
y friends-- almost all of whom are NOT aviators, but many of whom have des
igned
r built other things. BTW, what is all that neat polished stuff on the po
rt
ide of the engine?
im in central TX
o not archive
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ubject: Pietenpol-List: NX929DH complete, run up
Well, this evening after work the weather was cooperative, and I was able
to
oll out my finished Piet and take some photos, and also run the Model A fo
r
bout an hour. How sweet it was............one shot of prime............ pu
lled
he prop through four blades with the mags off......mags on................
....second
ull she fired up. What a nice sound........ pocket-a-pocket-a-pockat-a. Th
e
eighbors started to show up as soon as she fired. Got some help from the
ld-timer across the taxiway who lives with his son and is a Model A car ow
ner.
e helped me immensely by using just his ears to adjust the mixture screws.
Only
ne small oil drip inside the cowl. Couldn't be happier. Brodhead or bust!!
!!
an Helsper
oplar Grove, IL.
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| From: | "Pieti Lowell" <Lowellcfrank(at)yahoo.com> |
The Prop I have is a 76 X 46 Sensenich and turns 2000 Plus , but the Prop that
is on the Funk powered Piet is a 76 X 44 and turns 2000 and a Sensenich Semitar
design and will pull the Piet at 85 with two people. That is where your prop
with the proper flex will go into over drive when backed down on the throttle.
My estimate or guess, you should cruise along nicely at 70 plus around 1800.
Neat looking Piet
Pieti Lowell
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| Subject: | Re: Plans are here |
| From: | "GliderMike" <glidermikeg(at)yahoo.com> |
Scotty, as best as I can tell, it looks like HP Quick Play
--------
Long flights, smooth air, and soft landings,
GliderMike, aka Mike Glasgow
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| From: | AMsafetyC(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: NX929DH complete, run up |
Dan,
A real work of Art. She is a beauty I cant wait to meet her in person at
Brodhead next month. I made a copy for my shop inspirational pics. I needed
to hang one from a builder I knew and respected (even if its the work of a
purist). Thanks for sharing great job, Safe flying!
John
Safe in the morning safe all day, dangerous at night
Do not archive
the others's will only become jealous!
In a message dated 6/7/2010 9:25:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
helspersew(at)aol.com writes:
Well, this evening after work the weather was cooperative, and I was able
to roll out my finished Piet and take some photos, and also run the Model A
for about an hour. How sweet it was............one shot of
prime............ pulled the prop through four blades with the mags off......mags
on....................second pull she fired up. What a nice sound........
pocket-a-pocket-a-pockat-a. The neighbors started to show up as soon as she fired.
Got some help from the old-timer across the taxiway who lives with his son
and is a Model A car owner. He helped me immensely by using just his ears to
adjust the mixture screws. Only one small oil drip inside the cowl.
Couldn't be happier. Brodhead or bust!!!!
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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| From: | Michael Perez <speedbrake(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Another newbie |
Welcome aboard Chuck! Sounds like you have a good plan in place for success
. You are very fortunate to have Jack near by...he will prove to be your bi
ggest asset while building.
-
If interested in other instructional DVDs, drop by www.karetakeraero.com-
and take a look.- Mike Cuy's DVD has good tips....I'm glad we work togeth
er; he has helped me immensely as I am sure Jack will for you.
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Enjoy!
-
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
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| Subject: | Re: Plans are here |
| From: | "K5YAC" <hangar10(at)cox.net> |
bencharvet(at)gmail.com wrote:
> You can buy some small sheets of aircraft plywood at your local hobby shop to
make the gussets..just my $.02
>
> Ben Charvet
> [b]
In a pinch, yes... but my local Hobby Lobby charges $20 for a small sheet of 1/16"
birch ply (Midwest brand for modeling). I forget the exact dimensions (something
like 12"x24"), but I figured it up at the time and realized that it was
quite a bit more expensive than some of the really good stuff. I'm not saying
that buying local isn't a good idea from time to time, especially when it comes
to making progress, but pay attention to what you are shelling out for that
local plywood.
Probably the biggest deal killer on buying plywood from the mail order outfits
is the freight charge, but I believe you can get 48" x 48" sheets via ground service,
which is fine for making gussets and smaller cuts. I would recommend
doing that rather than trying to purchase the hobby store stuff. Think about
the piece I purchased... 12" x 24"... that is 1/8 of a 48" x 48" sheet. In other
words, multiply my local cost by a factor of eight ($160+tax) in order to
compare to the price of a mail order sheet. A half sheet (24" x 48") sheet of
Finnish Birch at Aircraft Spruce is currently selling for ~$17, and a full sheet
(48" x 48") is going for ~$33. You could buy 4 full sheets of ply AND 16
oz. of T-88 for the $160 mentioned above. Cut a 12" x 24" piece from one of those
full sheets... you cost is less than $5, including shipping.
Anyhow... I didn't bring this up to pick on you Ben... it's just that I've thought
about this a time or two when I've had to run to the local hobby shops for
materials. I've often considered buying a few common thicknesses of ply, in
sizes that could be delivered by ground service in order to keep my wood rack
stocked and avoid having to go to the hobby shops. In fact... that is going on
my list right now.
--------
Mark - working on wings
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| Subject: | Re: Another newbie |
| From: | "K5YAC" <hangar10(at)cox.net> |
Welcome, and good luck on your adventure Chuck! Sounds like you are in good hands
out there.
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Mark - working on wings
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| From: | "K5YAC" <hangar10(at)cox.net> |
Capstrip shouldn't take too long to receive.
I ordered 108-5' lengths (540 feet) of 1/4" x 1/2" capstrip and 2-6' lengths (12
feet) of 1/2" x 1/2" capstrip in order to build my 3-piece wing. It worked
out just about right. Not more than a stick or two (and a nice bundle of scraps)
left over.
I can't remember how much ply I ordered. Maybe a full sheet (48" x 48")? Not
sure, but it wouldn't hurt to just grab two of those anyhow... if it is too much
for the ribs, you'll use it somewhere else. Also, I'm not sure what type/size
of adhesives you prefer, but I just killed my first batch of T-88 (Quart size)
on my wings. Mileage may vary, but I would recommend the quart size... it
is quite a bit cheaper than buying two pint sized batches and whether it is
hot or cold in your shop, it seems to have a good shelf life.
--------
Mark - working on wings
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| From: | "Ray Krause" <raykrause(at)frontiernet.net> |
| Subject: | Re: NX929DH complete, run up |
Absolutely beautiful!
Thanks for sharing.
Ray Krause
Sky Scout..... 10 years!
----- Original Message -----
From: helspersew(at)aol.com
To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 6:22 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: NX929DH complete, run up
Well, this evening after work the weather was cooperative, and I was
able to roll out my finished Piet and take some photos, and also run the
Model A for about an hour. How sweet it was............one shot of
prime............ pulled the prop through four blades with the mags
off......mags on....................second pull she fired up. What a
nice sound........ pocket-a-pocket-a-pockat-a. The neighbors started to
show up as soon as she fired. Got some help from the old-timer across
the taxiway who lives with his son and is a Model A car owner. He helped
me immensely by using just his ears to adjust the mixture screws. Only
one small oil drip inside the cowl. Couldn't be happier. Brodhead or
bust!!!!
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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| From: | Michael Perez <speedbrake(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | Re: NX929DH complete, run up |
"Sounds" like you had a great day! Congrats.
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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| Subject: | Re: NX929DH complete, run up |
| From: | "Billy McCaskill" <billmz(at)cox.net> |
Incredible work, Dan! Looks more like a full restoration of a 1929 airplane than
a 2010 model! Absolutely love it! I'll be taking many pictures of it in person
this year at Brodhead!
Billy McCaskill
Urbana, IL
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Billy McCaskill
Urbana, IL
tailfeathers almost done
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| Subject: | Sport pilot training |
| From: | "Kringle" <Mrkringles(at)msn.com> |
Wouldn't it be wise to get my sport pilot training in a pietenpol if that is what
I intend on flying? Are there cfi's that will do this?
--------
John
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| Subject: | Sport pilot training |
| From: | "Kringle" <Mrkringles(at)msn.com> |
Wouldn't it be wise to get my sport pilot training in a pietenpol if that is what
I intend on flying? Are there cfi's that will do this?
--------
John
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| From: | <r.r.hall(at)cox.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Sport pilot training |
If you have access to a plane and can find a CFI that will do it go for it. Wisdom
has litle to do with it but it would definitely be cheaper. You would have
to be the owner of the plane or borrow it. As far as I know an experimental cannot
be rented or used by a CFI to give lessons for hire. However you can hire
a CFI to give you lessons in your plane.
Rodney Hall
---- Kringle wrote:
>
> Wouldn't it be wise to get my sport pilot training in a pietenpol if that is
what I intend on flying? Are there cfi's that will do this?
>
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> John
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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| From: | Ryan Mueller <rmueller23(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Sport pilot training |
I would think the thing to do, if you are honestly committed to getting your license,
would be to find the best available combination of LSA instruction availability/proximity/price
and just finish the license. You could try to find this
combination in concert with primary training in a taildragger, but depending
on where you live this could be a very limiting factor. If you can find someone
to do it in a taildragger, great. However, I am of the opinion that it would
be better to just find available, quality instruction that will give you the
best chance of success in getting your license than holding out to find a taildragger
that may be significantly more expensive, less available, farther away,
etc. Set yourself up for success.....but that's just me. :P
Ryan
On Jun 8, 2010, at 6:41 PM, "Kringle" wrote:
>
> Wouldn't it be wise to get my sport pilot training in a pietenpol if that is
what I intend on flying? Are there cfi's that will do this?
>
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> John
>
>
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>
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>
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| From: | Ben Charvet <bcharvet(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Plans are here |
I actually bought my gusset material from Aircraft Spruce in the 24 X 48
size and found the shipping to be reasonable. I ordered some 1/16 and
1/8 inch at the same time to save shipping. I have a local hobby shop
that has the 6 in x 12 in plywood that isn't too expensive, but I guess
to make all the ribs it would really add up. Buying the sizes I used I
could rip long pieces of gusset, then cut them to length with the band
saw. I was only thinking that if money was real tight, you could at
least get started for a few bucks a week...
Aircraft Spruce is pretty good about listing the best way to save on
shipping for large items. I saved a lot by ordering tubing in sizes no
longer than I actually needed.
Ben Charvet
On 6/8/2010 9:49 AM, K5YAC wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "K5YAC"
>
>
> bencharvet(at)gmail.com wrote:
>
>> You can buy some small sheets of aircraft plywood at your local hobby shop to
make the gussets..just my $.02
>>
>> Ben Charvet
>> [b]
>>
>
> In a pinch, yes... but my local Hobby Lobby charges $20 for a small sheet of
1/16" birch ply (Midwest brand for modeling). I forget the exact dimensions (something
like 12"x24"), but I figured it up at the time and realized that it
was quite a bit more expensive than some of the really good stuff. I'm not saying
that buying local isn't a good idea from time to time, especially when it
comes to making progress, but pay attention to what you are shelling out for
that local plywood.
>
> Probably the biggest deal killer on buying plywood from the mail order outfits
is the freight charge, but I believe you can get 48" x 48" sheets via ground
service, which is fine for making gussets and smaller cuts. I would recommend
doing that rather than trying to purchase the hobby store stuff. Think about
the piece I purchased... 12" x 24"... that is 1/8 of a 48" x 48" sheet. In
other words, multiply my local cost by a factor of eight ($160+tax) in order to
compare to the price of a mail order sheet. A half sheet (24" x 48") sheet
of Finnish Birch at Aircraft Spruce is currently selling for ~$17, and a full
sheet (48" x 48") is going for ~$33. You could buy 4 full sheets of ply AND 16
oz. of T-88 for the $160 mentioned above. Cut a 12" x 24" piece from one of
those full sheets... you cost is less than $5, including shipping.
>
> Anyhow... I didn't bring this up to pick on you Ben... it's just that I've thought
about this a time or two when I've had to run to the local hobby shops for
materials. I've often considered buying a few common thicknesses of ply, in
sizes that could be delivered by ground service in order to keep my wood rack
stocked and avoid having to go to the hobby shops. In fact... that is going
on my list right now.
>
> --------
> Mark - working on wings
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
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| From: | Ben Charvet <bcharvet(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Sport pilot training |
It would be nice if that was possible, but there just aren't that many
Pietenpols out there. They can't be rented, so you would have to
befriend an owner that would let you use his, or find a CFI that owned a
Piet that was willing to give you lessons for free. That would all be
fine until it was time to solo, and I doubt anyone would allow that. I
started my project with a Private Pilot license that had been dormant
for 15 years. I joined the local EAA chapter and met several CFI's that
would take me flying for next to nothing. I ended up getting a
tailwheel endorsement in a Citabria, then a little time in a J-3, before
my first solo in a Baby Ace that I had bought.
My brother wants to learn to fly too. I know at least two CFI's that
would get him ready to solo for free, or only paying for the fuel, but
some other arrangement would need to be made for the solo work. I think
I agree with the previous post that it would be better just to get the
license, then work on the tailwheel endorsement and familiarity with
aircraft similar to the Piet, like a Cub or Aeronca. If you are just
starting your project, you have plenty of time. I spent 5 years
building mine.
Join your local EAA chapter, and I'm sure you can get plenty of advice
that suits your local situation
Ben Charvet
Mims, Fl
looking forward to Brodhead
On 6/8/2010 7:41 PM, Kringle wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Kringle"
>
> Wouldn't it be wise to get my sport pilot training in a pietenpol if that is
what I intend on flying? Are there cfi's that will do this?
>
> --------
> John
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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| From: | "Jason Holmes" <jholmes8(at)centurylink.net> |
| Subject: | Sport pilot training |
It would be a fair drive from Russia, but check out ohiolightsport.com in
Centerburg, Ohio. Bill See does sport pilot training in an Aeronca Champ
and he might be willing to do training in your Piet. You could always go
down for several days at a time and stay in his bunkhouse. He is also one
of the cheapest in the country at $65 an hour for the Champ and him.
Just my 2 cents.
Jason
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kringle
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 7:42 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sport pilot training
Wouldn't it be wise to get my sport pilot training in a pietenpol if that is
what I intend on flying? Are there cfi's that will do this?
--------
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| From: | John Hofmann <jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Sport pilot training |
I also think they still train in Cubs at Waynesville.
-john-
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com
On Jun 8, 2010, at 7:38 PM, Jason Holmes wrote:
>
> It would be a fair drive from Russia, but check out ohiolightsport.com
in
> Centerburg, Ohio. Bill See does sport pilot training in an Aeronca
Champ
> and he might be willing to do training in your Piet. You could always
go
> down for several days at a time and stay in his bunkhouse. He is also
one
> of the cheapest in the country at $65 an hour for the Champ and him.
> Just my 2 cents.
> Jason
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Kringle
> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 7:42 PM
> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sport pilot training
>
>
> Wouldn't it be wise to get my sport pilot training in a pietenpol if
that is
> what I intend on flying? Are there cfi's that will do this?
>
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> John
>
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| Subject: | Re: Plans are here |
| From: | "K5YAC" <hangar10(at)cox.net> |
Yep, you are right that it would be a convenient way to get started, but it would
indeed start to add up.
Your hobby shop may be more reasonable than mine. Most of the ones here are chain
stores like Hobby Lobby or specialized hobby outlets (R/C aircraft). A good
selection, but given the quantity of materials we require, none of them offer
the best deal in wood products. I know that there are also marine outlets,
but I have never compared selection or prices.
bcharvet(at)bellsouth.net wrote:
> I have a local hobby shop that has the 6 in x 12 in plywood that isn't too expensive,
but I guess to make all the ribs it would really add up. Buying the
sizes I used I could rip long pieces of gusset, then cut them to length with the
band saw. I was only thinking that if money was real tight, you could at least
get started for a few bucks a week...
--------
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| From: | Oscar Zuniga <taildrags(at)hotmail.com> |
GliderMike wrote-
>I'm getting so desperate to build, I'm even considering
>a possibility of going back to driving a truck.
There's no need to drive trucks.
If you have a set of plans and a lot of determination, you're
on your way. It's very simple to cruise the sawmills, used
building materials yards, second-hand lumber yards, and just
"sniff the air" to find lumber that you can use to start building
your Pietenpol airframe. Some big rough beams, or perhaps an
old building that is being torn down, or a barn on a farm- all you
need are a couple of dry, fairly straight, rough timbers to yield
all the straight-grain lumber you'll need to build your airframe, ribs,
tail feathers, and miscellaneous structure. Once you run them
through a planer or jointer and then rip them to final dimension
on the table saw, you'll have more building stock than you need
and you will have smelled some of the most wonderful wood smells
that God has placed on this earth. All you'll need after that is a
little bit of glue and plenty of time in the shop and it will
start to come together. I'll bet you can scrounge all your wood
for a few bucks, or for the price of your sweat to haul off some
old wooden timbers. From there, it's all just fun and desire to
pull dimensioned structural shapes from big rough timbers.
I love building with wood!
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| From: | shad bell <aviatorbell(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Ohio Piet gathering |
Well, the hanger addition is done, the clean up is in progress, and hopfully the
annual will be done on the piet for the 19th. I am looking forward to seeing
all of you that can make it. I am planning the food purchase (hot dogs, buns
etc) so cime in here if you plan on attending. Bring a dish if you can, and
I will put out a voulentary donnation jar, put in if you want to, it will help
us keep this thing going for future gatherings, and keep me from going broke
(port a johns food cost etc etc). To Don Emch, Don't worry about bringing a
tent I told you before (I think), that you are welcome to my tent and air mattress,
since you will have a co-pilot with you. I also have a couple sets of tie
downs for those who don't have any, if you plan on camping over night you are
welcome to them. If I have room, I might be able to get 1 or 2 additional
piets in my hanger, who ever brings the better beer gets 1st dibs. If by chance
we get a shower overnight
fly-in campers can put a tent on the hanger floor (concrete) and have a dry nights
sleep, you will be the security force for the night, shot gun and buck shot
is optional, smack them with a piece of spar stock if you want. Hope the weather
holds out, and looking forward to seeing you all,
Shad
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| Subject: | Re: Ohio Piet gathering |
| From: | "Kringle" <Mrkringles(at)msn.com> |
Where is this gathering?
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John
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| From: | Dan Yocum <yocum(at)fnal.gov> |
| Subject: | the mystery of the degrading tachometer reading |
Sounds like an Agatha Cristie novel, I know.
Last fall I measured the prop RPM on N8031 with a digital IR tach reader
doo-hickey and determined that the difference between the mechanical
tach and the actual rpm of the prop was 11% low. That is, when the
mechanical tach reads 1000RPM, the prop is actually spinning at 1100RPM.
I did the same test yesterday, and discovered that it's now about 16%
low: 1000RPM on the mechanical and 1160RPM on the prop.
The former owner said that at one point the tach pegged during operation
and he discovered oil had seeped up the tach cable from the motor and
entered the tachometer. He cleaned it up and called it good (not sure
if he had it recalibrated or not...).
It sounds like something else is going on here. Anyone have any ideas
and suggested solutions? Should I buy a new tach or have this one
overhauled? Anyone know of a good instrument overhaul shop?
Thanks,
Dan
--
Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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| From: | "Perry Rhoads" <prhoads61(at)frontiernet.net> |
| Subject: | Re: the mystery of the degrading tachometer reading |
Dan,
Check the tach cable, if you haven't already. I had a tach cable break on
N12939. After replacement, the tach reads higher. I changed nothing but the
cable.
Perry Rhoads
N12939
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Yocum" <yocum(at)fnal.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 9:25 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: the mystery of the degrading tachometer reading
>
> Sounds like an Agatha Cristie novel, I know.
>
> Last fall I measured the prop RPM on N8031 with a digital IR tach reader
> doo-hickey and determined that the difference between the mechanical tach
> and the actual rpm of the prop was 11% low. That is, when the mechanical
> tach reads 1000RPM, the prop is actually spinning at 1100RPM. I did the
> same test yesterday, and discovered that it's now about 16% low: 1000RPM
> on the mechanical and 1160RPM on the prop.
>
> The former owner said that at one point the tach pegged during operation
> and he discovered oil had seeped up the tach cable from the motor and
> entered the tachometer. He cleaned it up and called it good (not sure if
> he had it recalibrated or not...).
>
> It sounds like something else is going on here. Anyone have any ideas and
> suggested solutions? Should I buy a new tach or have this one overhauled?
> Anyone know of a good instrument overhaul shop?
>
> Thanks,
> Dan
>
>
> --
> Dan Yocum
> Fermilab 630.840.6509
> yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
> "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Ohio Piet gathering |
| From: | "Don Emch" <EmchAir(at)aol.com> |
Hey Shad,
I'm still planning on showing up Friday evening, with one of the kiddos. I just
might take you up on that offer to use a tent and air mattress or hangar floor
or whatever. I talked to Frank P. and he said he still doesn't have the Lambert
back up and running, so he probably won't be making it.
I'm looking forward to it! Who else is coming? Driving or flying?
Don Emch
NX899DE
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| From: | shad bell <aviatorbell(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Ohio Piet gathering |
It is Centerburg, Ohio, bring a dish to pass (pot luck) and or donation jar to
help cover cost of food (hot dogs etc) and port-o-potties. It will be on June
19th starting around 9am-noon or so, and go untill everyone leaves.
Shad
ps of course that is all weather permitting
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| Subject: | Re: Plans are here |
| From: | Rick Holland <at7000ft(at)gmail.com> |
True, to get started on your ribs do some dumpster diving at some
construction sites. Just need a flat piece of 3/4" plywood (maybe 6' x 2')
and scrap pine blocks to make a rib building jig. Get a cheap used table saw
if you don't have one to rip capstrip from some good douglas fir or white
pine from the lumber yard (some have used Cedar for rib capstrip). You will
need to cough up the dough for the T-88 epoxy (or equivalent quality glue)
and good quality 1/16" AC or marine plywood. Would be cool to convert some
timbers from an old barn into a flying aircraft,
rick
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Oscar Zuniga wrote:
>
>
> GliderMike wrote-
>
> >I'm getting so desperate to build, I'm even considering
> >a possibility of going back to driving a truck.
>
> There's no need to drive trucks.
>
> If you have a set of plans and a lot of determination, you're
> on your way. It's very simple to cruise the sawmills, used
> building materials yards, second-hand lumber yards, and just
> "sniff the air" to find lumber that you can use to start building
> your Pietenpol airframe. Some big rough beams, or perhaps an
> old building that is being torn down, or a barn on a farm- all you
> need are a couple of dry, fairly straight, rough timbers to yield
> all the straight-grain lumber you'll need to build your airframe, ribs,
> tail feathers, and miscellaneous structure. Once you run them
> through a planer or jointer and then rip them to final dimension
> on the table saw, you'll have more building stock than you need
> and you will have smelled some of the most wonderful wood smells
> that God has placed on this earth. All you'll need after that is a
> little bit of glue and plenty of time in the shop and it will
> start to come together. I'll bet you can scrounge all your wood
> for a few bucks, or for the price of your sweat to haul off some
> old wooden timbers. From there, it's all just fun and desire to
> pull dimensioned structural shapes from big rough timbers.
>
> I love building with wood!
>
> Oscar Zuniga
> Air Camper NX41CC
> San Antonio, TX
> mailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.com
> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
>
>
--
Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Sport pilot training |
| From: | Rick Holland <at7000ft(at)gmail.com> |
When I think about some of the landings I made when I was learning long ago
for my Private license I am very glad I was in a rented Cessna 150 with that
one piece spring steel gear rather than any aircraft I had built.
I instructed for three years long ago (including in Super Cubs and
Decathlons) I agree that you should at least get through solo in good
trainer aircraft first and add the taildragger complications later.
rick
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Kringle wrote:
>
> Wouldn't it be wise to get my sport pilot training in a pietenpol if that
> is what I intend on flying? Are there cfi's that will do this?
>
> --------
> John
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=300607#300607
>
>
--
Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Skip Gadd" <skipgadd(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Ohio Piet gathering |
Shad,
Ed and I are still planning to arrive in our Piets before dark Friday.
Weather permitting we will leave Hales Landing Thursday morning for Hook
field and the Aeronca fly-in, than Friday on to OH71. Don't belive we will
be able to bring any food, but will be happy to add to the donation jar.
Looking forward to the trip.
Skip
> [Original Message]
> From: shad bell <aviatorbell(at)yahoo.com>
> To:
> Date: 6/9/2010 12:06:43 AM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Ohio Piet gathering
>
>
> Well, the hanger addition is done, the clean up is in progress, and
hopfully the annual will be done on the piet for the 19th. I am looking
forward to seeing all of you that can make it. I am planning the food
purchase (hot dogs, buns etc) so cime in here if you plan on attending.
Bring a dish if you can, and I will put out a voulentary donnation jar, put
in if you want to, it will help us keep this thing going for future
gatherings, and keep me from going broke (port a johns food cost etc etc).
To Don Emch, Don't worry about bringing a tent I told you before (I think),
that you are welcome to my tent and air mattress, since you will have a
co-pilot with you. I also have a couple sets of tie downs for those who
don't have any, if you plan on camping over night you are welcome to them.
If I have room, I might be able to get 1 or 2 additional piets in my
hanger, who ever brings the better beer gets 1st dibs. If by chance we get
a shower overnight
> fly-in campers can put a tent on the hanger floor (concrete) and have a
dry nights sleep, you will be the security force for the night, shot gun
and buck shot is optional, smack them with a piece of spar stock if you
want. Hope the weather holds out, and looking forward to seeing you all,
> Shad
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Skip Gadd" <skipgadd(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Sport pilot training |
You are right John. Red Stewart field Waynesville OH is a really neat place. If
I lived anywhere near south west Ohio it would be my choice for a place to learn
to fly. I was talking to an instructor there who told me he went to Ohio University
(they have one of those airline pilot programs) and got all his pilot
licenses, than went to Stewart and learned to fly.
http://www.stewartsaircraft.net/
Skip
----- Original Message -----
From: John Hofmann
Sent: 6/8/2010 9:12:00 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sport pilot training
I also think they still train in Cubs at Waynesville.
-john-
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com
On Jun 8, 2010, at 7:38 PM, Jason Holmes wrote:
It would be a fair drive from Russia, but check out ohiolightsport.com in
Centerburg, Ohio. Bill See does sport pilot training in an Aeronca Champ
and he might be willing to do training in your Piet. You could always go
down for several days at a time and stay in his bunkhouse. He is also one
of the cheapest in the country at $65 an hour for the Champ and him.
Just my 2 cents.
Jason
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kringle
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 7:42 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sport pilot training
Wouldn't it be wise to get my sport pilot training in a pietenpol if that is
what I intend on flying? Are there cfi's that will do this?
--------
John
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=300609#300609
- The --> &n=======================
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | John Hofmann <jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Sport pilot training |
Hi Skip,
When I was living in Indy, I had several friends who would go there to
fly Cubs. I have never been there but it sounds like a neat place. Then
again, at HXF, where I am based, we have 20 Cubs on the field so that is
pretty neat as well.
-john-
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com
On Jun 9, 2010, at 1:21 PM, Skip Gadd wrote:
> You are right John. Red Stewart field Waynesville OH is a really neat
place. If I lived anywhere near south west Ohio it would be my choice
for a place to learn to fly. I was talking to an instructor there who
told me he went to Ohio University (they have one of those airline pilot
programs) and got all his pilot licenses, than went to Stewart and
learned to fly.
> http://www.stewartsaircraft.net/
> Skip
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John Hofmann
> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
> Sent: 6/8/2010 9:12:00 PM
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sport pilot training
>
> I also think they still train in Cubs at Waynesville.
>
> -john-
>
> John Hofmann
> Vice-President, Information Technology
> The Rees Group, Inc.
> 2424 American Lane
> Madison, WI 53704
> Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
> Fax: 608.443.2474
> Email: jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com
>
> On Jun 8, 2010, at 7:38 PM, Jason Holmes wrote:
>
>>
>> It would be a fair drive from Russia, but check out
ohiolightsport.com in
>> Centerburg, Ohio. Bill See does sport pilot training in an Aeronca
Champ
>> and he might be willing to do training in your Piet. You could
always go
>> down for several days at a time and stay in his bunkhouse. He is
also one
>> of the cheapest in the country at $65 an hour for the Champ and him.
>> Just my 2 cents.
>> Jason
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Kringle
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 7:42 PM
>> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
>> Subject: Pietenpol-Lis t: Sport pilot training
>>
>>
>> Wouldn't it be wise to get my sport pilot training in a pietenpol if
that is
>> what I intend on flying? Are there cfi's that will do this?
>>
>> --------
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=300609#300609
>>
>>
>>
>> - The --> &n============
===========
>>
>
> <>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Dan Yocum <yocum(at)fnal.gov> |
| Subject: | 4th Annual Antique Homebuilt Fly-in |
All,
Antique Airfield will be holding the 4th annual Homebuilt Fly-in at IA27
on July 2nd and 3rd.
The flyer is attached.
Cheers,
Dan
--
Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | airlion <airlion(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Sport pilot training |
david , you might want to think about this for your tail dragging check out. Maybe
on your way back south. Gardiner
________________________________
From: Skip Gadd <skipgadd(at)earthlink.net>
Sent: Wed, June 9, 2010 2:21:56 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sport pilot training
You are right John. Red Stewart field Waynesville OH is a really neat place. If
I lived anywhere near south west Ohio it would be my choice for a place to learn
to fly. I was talking to an instructor there who told me he went to Ohio University
(they have one of those airline pilot programs) and got all his pilot
licenses, than went to Stewart and learned to fly.
http://www.stewartsaircraft.net/
Skip
----- Original Message -----
>From: John Hofmann
>To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
>Sent: 6/8/2010 9:12:00 PM
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sport pilot training
>
>I also think they still train in Cubs at Waynesville.
>
>
>-john-
>
>
>John Hofmann
>Vice-President, Information Technology
>The Rees Group, Inc.
>2424 American Lane
>Madison, WI 53704
>Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
>Fax: 608.443.2474
>Email: jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com
>
>On Jun 8, 2010, at 7:38 PM, Jason Holmes wrote:
>
>>
>>It would be a fair drive from Russia, but check out ohiolightsport.com in
>>Centerburg, Ohio. Bill See does sport pilot training in an Aeronca Champ
>>and he might be willing to do training in your Piet. You could always go
>>down for several days at a time and stay in his bunkhouse. He is also one
>>of the cheapest in the country at $65 an hour for the Champ and him.
>>Just my 2 cents.
>>Jason
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
>>[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kringle
>>Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 7:42 PM
>>To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
>>Subject: Pietenpol-Lis
>> t: Sport pilot training
>>
>>
>>Wouldn't it be wise to get my sport pilot training in a pietenpol if that is
>>what I intend on flying? Are there cfi's that will do this?
>>
>>--------
>>John
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Read this topic online here:
>>
>>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=300609#300609
>>
>>
>>
>> - The --> &n=======================
>>
>>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Jeff Boatright <jboatri(at)emory.edu> |
| Subject: | Re: 4th Annual Antique Homebuilt Fly-in |
Dan,
Thanks for the info. The AAA's definition of
"antique" hombuilt is broader than I suspected
(they do say "antique type"). Flybaby,
Starduster, Marquart Charger, Hatz? The more the
merrier, but calling a Hatz an antique makes me
feel really old! :-(
Jeff
>All,
>
>Antique Airfield will be holding the 4th annual
>Homebuilt Fly-in at IA27 on July 2nd and 3rd.
>
>The flyer is attached.
>
>Cheers,
>Dan
>
>
>--
>Dan Yocum
>Fermilab 630.840.6509
>yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
>"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
>
>
>Attachment converted: HD:4th homebuilt fly-in.pdf (PDF /IC) (0177E2AE)
--
Jeff Boatright
"Now let's think about this..."
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Wayne Bressler <wayne(at)taildraggersinc.com> |
| Subject: | Fwd: Jake's 1931 Pietenpol replica update... |
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" <michael.d.cuy(at)nasa.gov> |
| Subject: | Welcome new lister Chuck from Raleigh, NC |
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________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Wayne Bressler <wayne(at)taildraggersinc.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Fwd: Jake's 1931 Pietenpol replica update... |
Here is an update from Jake Shultz and his Rotec-powered, steel tube
Piet. I know there was some discussion about his wicker sears
recently, and thought everyone might like to see some progress pics.
(second attempt)
Wayne Bressler Jr.
Taildraggers, Inc.
taildraggersinc.com
Begin forwarded message:
> Jake writes:
> Howdy all,
>
> My 1931 Pietenpol replica project is moving along well...
>
> ROTEC was originally posting updates on their site whenever I sent
> them information, yet they are building a totally new website and
> have not had time to post project updates as quickly as they would
> like. They are still fantastic with support whenever I call with
> installation questions.
>
> The project sequence has been to build the fundamentals first, then
> move on to detail components in a logical manner.
>
> Construction of the 4130 tubing fuselage was built exactly to the
> 1932 Flying and Glider manual dimensions - except I made my fuselage
> two inches wider than plans, added a passenger door cutout, and
> reinforced that door cutout area with upsized/additional tubing.
>
> I next worked to understand the pilot and passenger spaces. This
> involved mocking up the seats, seat-supports, instrument boards, and
> floorboards. (There is virtually no information on these details as
> they relate to the original steel-tube design in the 1932 Flying and
> Glider Manual...!) Several friends served as test subjects by
> climbing in and out of the front seat to verify clearances. Both
> seats were fully formed/welded 4130 tubing, powder coated, then
> woven with real wicker. I did all the forming, cutting, and fitting
> of the parts. I hired out the welding, powder coating, and wicker
> weaving (say that three times fast...!)
>
> Enjoy a few recent photos of the seats, West-African hardwood
> (Bubinga) veneer floorboards, and "turned" instrument boards.
>
> Having a great time...
>
> Jake
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Sport pilot training |
| From: | "coxwelljon" <coxwelljon(at)frontiernet.net> |
Kringle wrote:
> Wouldn't it be wise to get my sport pilot training in a pietenpol if that is
what I intend on flying? Are there cfi's that will do this?
I agree with the previous posts. Make getting your license and building an airplane
2 different projects.
I have a lot of hours in a lot of different airplanes. Most things about flying
are the same and when you have the basics well ingrained in your brain you will
find it easier to concentrate on the differences that each airplane presents.
I have checked out in at least 4 different tail wheel airplanes from Maul
to Aeronca and probably twice that many tri-gear including complex, high performance
and retractable. Each new airplane becomes a little easier and each new
airplane that I have flown has made me a better pilot.
Once you get your license you will probably find a lot of recreational pilots that
will take you along and let you fly just to show off their airplane. There
are now a lot of cool sport aircraft out there to try. Once you have flown
some of these sleek carbon fiber craft you will appreciate the wooden open cockpit,
low and slow that much more.
--------
Jon Coxwell
GN-1 Builder
Recycle and preserve the planet
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=300773#300773
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| From: | "Jason Holmes" <jholmes8(at)centurylink.net> |
| Subject: | Ohio Piet gathering |
Shad,
My dad and I will be stopping in on Saturday. We will bring some cash for
the donation jar and some food if I have time to get something together.
Thanks for organizing this,
Jason Holmes
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of shad bell
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 12:05 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Ohio Piet gathering
Well, the hanger addition is done, the clean up is in progress, and hopfully
the annual will be done on the piet for the 19th. I am looking forward to
seeing all of you that can make it. I am planning the food purchase (hot
dogs, buns etc) so cime in here if you plan on attending. Bring a dish if
you can, and I will put out a voulentary donnation jar, put in if you want
to, it will help us keep this thing going for future gatherings, and keep me
from going broke (port a johns food cost etc etc). To Don Emch, Don't worry
about bringing a tent I told you before (I think), that you are welcome to
my tent and air mattress, since you will have a co-pilot with you. I also
have a couple sets of tie downs for those who don't have any, if you plan on
camping over night you are welcome to them. If I have room, I might be able
to get 1 or 2 additional piets in my hanger, who ever brings the better beer
gets 1st dibs. If by chance we get a shower overnight
fly-in campers can put a tent on the hanger floor (concrete) and have a dry
nights sleep, you will be the security force for the night, shot gun and
buck shot is optional, smack them with a piece of spar stock if you want.
Hope the weather holds out, and looking forward to seeing you all,
Shad
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Sport pilot training |
| From: | "Kringle" <Mrkringles(at)msn.com> |
Red Stewart field really appeals to me. It's only about an hour and 15 minutes
away, has a grass field, and they fly j3 cubs. I called today and they seemed
real friendly.
Thanks
--------
John
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=300778#300778
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | shad bell <aviatorbell(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Shad's Ohio Piet gathering info, who is flying in? |
Mr, Jason Holmes, will you be flying in or driving? If flying what type of aircraft?
The field is supposed to go public (or might already be, I honestly do
not know) and the owner said he had or was putting out a notam for tailwheels
only. The field does have tricycle aircraft based here, 172, and a couple homebuilts,
so just use good judgement. The field is fairly smooth with a couple
bumps that will bounce you up just when you think you greesed it on, so keep
that yoke/stick in your lap. Also a reminder to all you flying in FLY A NORTH
PATTERN, RIGHT TRAFFIC FOR 28, LEFT TRAFFIC FOR 10. And also watch out for
radio contolled aircraft at the south-west end of the field, make a pattern alt
fly over to scope it out and make sure the model club sees you then come around
and land. And to every one else who plans on flying in Piet or other please
respond so I can plan on a parking arrangement. I will keep posting off and
on the next week or so with
updates and other info.
Now it's back out to the hanger for more clean up (10:45pm)
Shad
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jason Holmes" <jholmes8(at)centurylink.net> |
| Subject: | Shad's Ohio Piet gathering info, who is flying in? |
Shad, sorry I didn't give more details in that post. I, and my Dad, will by
driving in. I have flown out of there with Bill taking lessons in the Champ
so I will just park wherever I can (probably at the hangars unless Bill
minds).
Thanks,
Jason
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of shad bell
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 10:41 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Shad's Ohio Piet gathering info, who is flying
in?
Mr, Jason Holmes, will you be flying in or driving? If flying what type of
aircraft? The field is supposed to go public (or might already be, I
honestly do not know) and the owner said he had or was putting out a notam
for tailwheels only. The field does have tricycle aircraft based here, 172,
and a couple homebuilts, so just use good judgement. The field is fairly
smooth with a couple bumps that will bounce you up just when you think you
greesed it on, so keep that yoke/stick in your lap. Also a reminder to all
you flying in FLY A NORTH PATTERN, RIGHT TRAFFIC FOR 28, LEFT TRAFFIC FOR
10. And also watch out for radio contolled aircraft at the south-west end
of the field, make a pattern alt fly over to scope it out and make sure the
model club sees you then come around and land. And to every one else who
plans on flying in Piet or other please respond so I can plan on a parking
arrangement. I will keep posting off and on the next week or so with
updates and other info.
Now it's back out to the hanger for more clean up (10:45pm)
Shad
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | shad bell <aviatorbell(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Shad's Ohio Piet gathering info, who is flying in? |
Dan H., I have been to your house also, we taxied from the pumps in your sedan
when Santiago came up, Mayby next year if all goes well you'll be able to make
it, although it will be about 6-8 hrs flight time. We might try Brodhead again
in 2011, although with #2 on the way the wife might say NO!
Shad
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "gcardinal" <gcardinal(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Dan Helsper's cockpit coaming |
Hey Dan,
The Brits like your method of applying leather coaming to the cockpit.
http://www.pietenpolclub.co.uk/#/leather-coaming-padding/4541602921
That would be a good link to have on Chris Tracy's site
www.westcoastpiet.com
Greg C.
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Dan Helsper's cockpit coaming- Att: Chris Tracy |
| From: | helspersew(at)aol.com |
Thanks for picking up on this Greg.
Chris Tracy, are you listening?
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
-----Original Message-----
From: gcardinal <gcardinal(at)comcast.net>
Sent: Thu, Jun 10, 2010 6:43 am
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Dan Helsper's cockpit coaming
Hey Dan,
The Brits like your method of applying leather coaming to the cockpit.
http://www.pietenpolclub.co.uk/#/leather-coaming-padding/4541602921
That would be a good link to have on Chris Tracy's site www.westcoastpiet.
com
Greg C.
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| From: | Ben Charvet <bcharvet(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Newspaper article about my Piet |
I got interviewed a few weeks ago by a freelance for a local newspaper.
Attached is the link.
http://www.mydigitalpublication.com/publication/?m 07&l=1&p=33
Ben Charvet
Mims, Fl
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Jim Markle <jim_markle(at)mindspring.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Newspaper article about my Piet |
Wow, nice article! Sure do like those wood cabanes!
jm
-----Original Message-----
>From: Ben Charvet <bcharvet(at)bellsouth.net>
>Sent: Jun 10, 2010 7:11 AM
>To: Pietenpol list
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Newspaper article about my Piet
>
>
>I got interviewed a few weeks ago by a freelance for a local newspaper.
>Attached is the link.
>
>http://www.mydigitalpublication.com/publication/?m 07&l=1&p=33
>
>Ben Charvet
>Mims, Fl
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "ALAN LYSCARS" <alyscars(at)myfairpoint.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Newspaper article about my Piet |
Nicely done, Ben!
The article was well written and, I felt, adequately conveyed your
motivation to start and complete your ship.
Keep 'Em Flying!
Al Lyscars
Manchester, NH
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ben Charvet" <bcharvet(at)bellsouth.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 8:11 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Newspaper article about my Piet
>
> I got interviewed a few weeks ago by a freelance for a local newspaper.
> Attached is the link.
>
> http://www.mydigitalpublication.com/publication/?m 07&l=1&p=33
>
> Ben Charvet
> Mims, Fl
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" <michael.d.cuy(at)nasa.gov> |
| Subject: | article about Ben and his new Pietenpol in Florida |
Good article about you and you plane Ben and I'm reminded of how diverse a group
we have out there
when I read that Ben is a pharmacist. We have such a talented group of people
out there professionally
who choose the simple, slow, and antiquated design of the Pietenpol.
I know the following people who have or are building Pietenpols:
A retired airline pilot who has every rating in the book and has flown everything
from Cubs to 747's and B-29's.
A farmer.
An accomplished dentist....several of them in fact.
Engineers of all types.
Fireman, policemen, investigators.
Retired nuclear powerplant operators
Business owners.
Software, IT, and web design experts who talk in languages that make me feel like
an illegal immigrant who just arrived.
Retired USAF F-16 pilots.
Active US Army helicopter pilots.
Construction workers, electricians, pipe fitters, and highway construction trades
people.
Artists who live on houseboats.
Retired airline pilots.....did I say that already ? Yes--because there are a
BUNCH of them that choose Pietenpols.
Young men in college or who have just gotten married.
Aircraft manufacturing employees
Fathers of kids who work on Richard Branson and Burt Rutan's Scaled Composite projects.
Truck drivers.
Active military personnel, Reservists, Guards, and retired Veterans of all branches
of the military.
Attorneys and lawyers.....some of which have actually dispelled the commonly held
bad rap that most of them take.
http://www.mydigitalpublication.com/publication/?m 07&l=1&p=33
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | article about Ben and his new Pietenpol in Florida |
Add to that list a Riverboat Pilot, and a Realtor
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Raleigh, NC
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy, Michael
D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 9:22 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: article about Ben and his new Pietenpol in Florida
Aerospace Corporation]"
Good article about you and you plane Ben and I'm reminded of how diverse a
group we have out there
when I read that Ben is a pharmacist. We have such a talented group of
people out there professionally
who choose the simple, slow, and antiquated design of the Pietenpol.
I know the following people who have or are building Pietenpols:
A retired airline pilot who has every rating in the book and has flown
everything from Cubs to 747's and B-29's.
A farmer.
An accomplished dentist....several of them in fact.
Engineers of all types.
Fireman, policemen, investigators.
Retired nuclear powerplant operators
Business owners.
Software, IT, and web design experts who talk in languages that make me feel
like an illegal immigrant who just arrived.
Retired USAF F-16 pilots.
Active US Army helicopter pilots.
Construction workers, electricians, pipe fitters, and highway construction
trades people.
Artists who live on houseboats.
Retired airline pilots.....did I say that already ? Yes--because there
are a BUNCH of them that choose Pietenpols.
Young men in college or who have just gotten married.
Aircraft manufacturing employees
Fathers of kids who work on Richard Branson and Burt Rutan's Scaled
Composite projects.
Truck drivers.
Active military personnel, Reservists, Guards, and retired Veterans of all
branches of the military.
Attorneys and lawyers.....some of which have actually dispelled the commonly
held bad rap that most of them take.
http://www.mydigitalpublication.com/publication/?m 07&l=1&p=33
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | H RULE <harvey.rule(at)rogers.com> |
| Subject: | Re: article about Ben and his new Pietenpol in Florida |
You can include a retired Bell guy in there now too.We are just a bunch of
ding-a-lings.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: "Cuy,
Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]"
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nasa.gov>=0A=0A=0AGood article about you and you plane Ben and I'm reminded
of how diverse a group we have out there=0Awhen I read that Ben is a pharm
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=0AA retired airline pilot who has every rating in the book and has flown e
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ireman, policemen, investigators. =0A=0ARetired nuclear powerplant operator
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=0A=0ARetired USAF F-16 pilots.=0A=0AActive US Army helicopter pilots.=0A
=0AConstruction workers, electricians, pipe fitters, and highway constructi
on trades people.=0A=0AArtists who live on houseboats.=0A=0ARetired airline
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of them that choose Pietenpols. =0A=0AYoung men in college or who have just
gotten married. =0A=0AAircraft manufacturing employees=0A=0AFathers of kid
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====
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jack" <jack(at)textors.com> |
| Subject: | 4th Annual Antique Homebuilt Fly-in |
Talked with Ben Taylor to confirm Fly-In is open to anyone. There may be a
small camping and or registration fee. The road closure is between
Blakesburg and Ottumwa. If you are coming or have questions contact Ben at
BenjaminlTaylor(at)yahoo.com It should be a great time!
Jack
DSM
All,
Antique Airfield will be holding the 4th annual Homebuilt Fly-in at IA27
on July 2nd and 3rd.
The flyer is attached.
Cheers,
Dan
--
Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Stearman incident in DC Monday |
| From: | "chase143(at)aol.com" <chase143(at)aol.com> |
Saw them flying overhead towards Reagan National Monday, but did not see this until
it hit the news. Both guys walked away. This is just one of several camera
angles.
http://www.king5.com/video/featured-videos/Watch-Vintage-plane-flips-at-DC-airport-95897524.html
--------
Steve
www.mypiet.com
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=300828#300828
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Dan Yocum <yocum(at)fnal.gov> |
| Subject: | Re: the mystery of the degrading tachometer reading |
Perry,
On 06/09/2010 09:59 AM, Perry Rhoads wrote:
>
>
> Dan,
>
> Check the tach cable, if you haven't already. I had a tach cable break
> on N12939. After replacement, the tach reads higher. I changed nothing
> but the cable.
Hm. How is the tach cable connected to an A65? Is it a mechanical
connection or is it a magnetic connection like on the meter end or some
sort of oil chamber connection?
Boy, I really need to look closely at how the cable is routed -
hopefully it's on the inside of the plane and not between the ply and
fabric.
Thanks for the input,
Dan
--
Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Jeff Boatright <jboatri(at)emory.edu> |
| Subject: | Re: the mystery of the degrading tachometer reading |
Dan,
It's mechanical on small Continentals. Comes off the back of the
engine, very easy to see once you have the cowling off.
Jeff
Hm. How is the tach cable connected to an A65? Is it a mechanical
connection or is it a magnetic connection like on the meter end or
some sort of oil chamber connection?
--
Jeff Boatright
"Now let's think about this..."
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: the mystery of the degrading tachometer reading |
| From: | Ryan Mueller <rmueller23(at)gmail.com> |
Dan,
The tach connection is mechanical. A cable runs from the tach drive on the
engine to the tachometer. The tach drive is located on the accessory case,
to the right and slightly below the oil screen:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4063/4688608856_e6d98a78da_b.jpg
Follow the cable to see how it is routed. Most likely it runs through the
firewall and snakes along the side/underside of a longeron to make its way
to the tach in the rear panel.
Ryan
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Dan Yocum wrote:
>
> Perry,
>
>
> On 06/09/2010 09:59 AM, Perry Rhoads wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Dan,
>>
>> Check the tach cable, if you haven't already. I had a tach cable break
>> on N12939. After replacement, the tach reads higher. I changed nothing
>> but the cable.
>>
>
> Hm. How is the tach cable connected to an A65? Is it a mechanical
> connection or is it a magnetic connection like on the meter end or some sort
> of oil chamber connection?
>
> Boy, I really need to look closely at how the cable is routed - hopefully
> it's on the inside of the plane and not between the ply and fabric.
>
> Thanks for the input,
>
> Dan
>
>
> --
> Dan Yocum
> Fermilab 630.840.6509
> yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
> "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Perry Rhoads" <prhoads61(at)frontiernet.net> |
| Subject: | Re: the mystery of the degrading tachometer reading |
Dan,
You could have an electrical tach, but most small Continentals in airplanes
like Pietenpols use a mechanical tach. The cable is driven from the rear of
the engine, hopefully through the cockpit, probably to a right angle drive
on the back of the tach.
My old cable was slowly destroying itself, and I'm assuming causing excess
friction inside the housing. Thus my increased tach reading with the new
cable. Maybe some of this applies to your problem.
Perry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Yocum" <yocum(at)fnal.gov>
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: the mystery of the degrading tachometer reading
>
> Perry,
>
> On 06/09/2010 09:59 AM, Perry Rhoads wrote:
>>
>>
>> Dan,
>>
>> Check the tach cable, if you haven't already. I had a tach cable break
>> on N12939. After replacement, the tach reads higher. I changed nothing
>> but the cable.
>
> Hm. How is the tach cable connected to an A65? Is it a mechanical
> connection or is it a magnetic connection like on the meter end or some
> sort of oil chamber connection?
>
> Boy, I really need to look closely at how the cable is routed - hopefully
> it's on the inside of the plane and not between the ply and fabric.
>
> Thanks for the input,
> Dan
>
>
> --
> Dan Yocum
> Fermilab 630.840.6509
> yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
> "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Dan Yocum <yocum(at)fnal.gov> |
| Subject: | Re: the mystery of the degrading tachometer reading |
On 06/10/2010 11:54 AM, Ryan Mueller wrote:
> Dan,
>
> The tach connection is mechanical. A cable runs from the tach drive on
> the engine to the tachometer. The tach drive is located on the accessory
> case, to the right and slightly below the oil screen:
>
> http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4063/4688608856_e6d98a78da_b.jpg
And in that hole (with the arrow) is a gear that the tach cable gear
meshes with, right?
Hmmmm... all of a sudden I'm afraid to look in that hole! What if the
worm gear is starting to eat itself? What if the metal shavings are
making their way back into the engine? Or, am I letting my paranoia
take control and I should just shut up and fly?
--
Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: the mystery of the degrading tachometer reading |
| From: | Ryan Mueller <rmueller23(at)gmail.com> |
Dan,
The tach drive cable is driven by the end of the oil pump gear shaft. It's
been a while since I've had one off, but if I recall the drive cable nests
itself inside the end of the shaft, and I think it nests inside a similar
shaft/receptacle on the tachometer. It is not a geared connection. What you
would be able to see by pulling the tach cable off the tach drive is the
condition of the end of the cable that nests inside the shaft, and of course
the condition of the shaft itself. You may also be able to get an idea as to
whether or not the cable is properly engaging the drive.
Ryan
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Dan Yocum wrote:
>
>
> On 06/10/2010 11:54 AM, Ryan Mueller wrote:
>
>> Dan,
>>
>> The tach connection is mechanical. A cable runs from the tach drive on
>> the engine to the tachometer. The tach drive is located on the accessory
>> case, to the right and slightly below the oil screen:
>>
>> http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4063/4688608856_e6d98a78da_b.jpg
>>
>
> And in that hole (with the arrow) is a gear that the tach cable gear meshes
> with, right?
>
> Hmmmm... all of a sudden I'm afraid to look in that hole! What if the worm
> gear is starting to eat itself? What if the metal shavings are making their
> way back into the engine? Or, am I letting my paranoia take control and I
> should just shut up and fly?
>
>
> --
> Dan Yocum
> Fermilab 630.840.6509
> yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
> "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Jeff Boatright <jboatri(at)emory.edu> |
| Subject: | Re: the mystery of the degrading tachometer reading |
If the tach gear looks buggered up, then look for metal bits in the
oil. What does your oil look like? What does the screen look like? Or
do you have a filter? Regardless, things often don't get caught by
screens and filters. Might be a good idea to drain the oil, let stuff
settle in the pan (start off with a clean pan), and then rub your
fingers around the bottom. This is how we figured out that are
generator gear was eating itself.
>
>
>On 06/10/2010 11:54 AM, Ryan Mueller wrote:
>>Dan,
>>
>>The tach connection is mechanical. A cable runs from the tach drive on
>>the engine to the tachometer. The tach drive is located on the accessory
>>case, to the right and slightly below the oil screen:
>>
>>http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4063/4688608856_e6d98a78da_b.jpg
>
>And in that hole (with the arrow) is a gear that the tach cable gear
>meshes with, right?
>
>Hmmmm... all of a sudden I'm afraid to look in that hole! What if
>the worm gear is starting to eat itself? What if the metal shavings
>are making their way back into the engine? Or, am I letting my
>paranoia take control and I should just shut up and fly?
>
>
>--
>Dan Yocum
>Fermilab 630.840.6509
>yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
>"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
--
Jeff Boatright
"Now let's think about this..."
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Dan Yocum <yocum(at)fnal.gov> |
| Subject: | Re: the mystery of the degrading tachometer reading |
At the last oil change there was nothing obvious in the screen or the
bottom of the pan. Though, I admit that I didn't let the oil settle for
very long. I sent out a sample of the oil to be analyzed and they
didn't raise any warning flags, not that I'd expect any on the first
sample submission.
Just googling a bit I ran across this image which is what got me all
worked up:
http://www.corvettemagazine.com/2001/july/tach/tach1.asp
Yes, I know it's for a Corvette, not a Continental, but my imagination
went wild.
If there's no gear, the end just sits in the end of the oil pump shaft,
then I feel a bit better... still confused as to why it's reading low,
but better.
The condition inspection got pushed back until next Tuesday, so I'll
have my A&P take a look at the cable to see what he thinks.
Thanks everyone!
Dan
On 06/10/2010 01:17 PM, Jeff Boatright wrote:
>
> If the tach gear looks buggered up, then look for metal bits in the oil.
> What does your oil look like? What does the screen look like? Or do you
> have a filter? Regardless, things often don't get caught by screens and
> filters. Might be a good idea to drain the oil, let stuff settle in the
> pan (start off with a clean pan), and then rub your fingers around the
> bottom. This is how we figured out that are generator gear was eating
> itself.
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 06/10/2010 11:54 AM, Ryan Mueller wrote:
>>> Dan,
>>>
>>> The tach connection is mechanical. A cable runs from the tach drive on
>>> the engine to the tachometer. The tach drive is located on the accessory
>>> case, to the right and slightly below the oil screen:
>>>
>>> http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4063/4688608856_e6d98a78da_b.jpg
>>
>> And in that hole (with the arrow) is a gear that the tach cable gear
>> meshes with, right?
>>
>> Hmmmm... all of a sudden I'm afraid to look in that hole! What if the
>> worm gear is starting to eat itself? What if the metal shavings are
>> making their way back into the engine? Or, am I letting my paranoia
>> take control and I should just shut up and fly?
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dan Yocum
>> Fermilab 630.840.6509
>> yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
>> "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
>
>
--
Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: the mystery of the degrading tachometer reading |
| From: | Ryan Mueller <rmueller23(at)gmail.com> |
Thankfully you're not flying a Corvette. :P
I found the drawing from the A-65 manual that shows the exploded view of the
accessory housing:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4011/4688943518_5f94d88e0a_b.jpg
<http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4011/4688943518_5f94d88e0a_b.jpg>#116 is the
oil pump gear/drive that drives the tach cable.
Ryan
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Dan Yocum wrote:
>
> At the last oil change there was nothing obvious in the screen or the
> bottom of the pan. Though, I admit that I didn't let the oil settle for
> very long. I sent out a sample of the oil to be analyzed and they didn't
> raise any warning flags, not that I'd expect any on the first sample
> submission.
>
> Just googling a bit I ran across this image which is what got me all worked
> up:
>
> http://www.corvettemagazine.com/2001/july/tach/tach1.asp
>
> Yes, I know it's for a Corvette, not a Continental, but my imagination went
> wild.
>
> If there's no gear, the end just sits in the end of the oil pump shaft,
> then I feel a bit better... still confused as to why it's reading low, but
> better.
>
> The condition inspection got pushed back until next Tuesday, so I'll have
> my A&P take a look at the cable to see what he thinks.
>
> Thanks everyone!
> Dan
>
>
> On 06/10/2010 01:17 PM, Jeff Boatright wrote:
>
>>
>> If the tach gear looks buggered up, then look for metal bits in the oil.
>> What does your oil look like? What does the screen look like? Or do you
>> have a filter? Regardless, things often don't get caught by screens and
>> filters. Might be a good idea to drain the oil, let stuff settle in the
>> pan (start off with a clean pan), and then rub your fingers around the
>> bottom. This is how we figured out that are generator gear was eating
>> itself.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 06/10/2010 11:54 AM, Ryan Mueller wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dan,
>>>>
>>>> The tach connection is mechanical. A cable runs from the tach drive on
>>>> the engine to the tachometer. The tach drive is located on the accessory
>>>> case, to the right and slightly below the oil screen:
>>>>
>>>> http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4063/4688608856_e6d98a78da_b.jpg
>>>>
>>>
>>> And in that hole (with the arrow) is a gear that the tach cable gear
>>> meshes with, right?
>>>
>>> Hmmmm... all of a sudden I'm afraid to look in that hole! What if the
>>> worm gear is starting to eat itself? What if the metal shavings are
>>> making their way back into the engine? Or, am I letting my paranoia
>>> take control and I should just shut up and fly?
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dan Yocum
>>> Fermilab 630.840.6509
>>> yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
>>> "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
>>>
>>
>>
>>
> --
> Dan Yocum
> Fermilab 630.840.6509
> yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
> "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | the mystery of the degrading tachometer reading |
Ryan is correct - the tach cable just nests inside the oil pump shaft with a
1/8" square peg fitting into a square hole in the shaft. Any fraying or
breaking of the cable is almost certainly NOT in the end of the cable that
plugs into the gear shaft since that portion is contained within the
accessory case and cannot flex much. Any break is probably where the cable
was bent too sharply to fit around something. In a Pietenpol, since the
engine end of the cable is almost on the aircraft centerline but the cable
must make it around the front cockpit to get to the rear instrument panel,
there are some significant bends required.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Raleigh, NC
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 3:24 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: the mystery of the degrading tachometer reading
Thankfully you're not flying a Corvette. :P
I found the drawing from the A-65 manual that shows the exploded view of the
accessory housing:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4011/4688943518_5f94d88e0a_b.jpg
<http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4011/4688943518_5f94d88e0a_b.jpg> #116 is
the oil pump gear/drive that drives the tach cable.
Ryan
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Dan Yocum wrote:
At the last oil change there was nothing obvious in the screen or the bottom
of the pan. Though, I admit that I didn't let the oil settle for very long.
I sent out a sample of the oil to be analyzed and they didn't raise any
warning flags, not that I'd expect any on the first sample submission.
Just googling a bit I ran across this image which is what got me all worked
up:
http://www.corvettemagazine.com/2001/july/tach/tach1.asp
Yes, I know it's for a Corvette, not a Continental, but my imagination went
wild.
If there's no gear, the end just sits in the end of the oil pump shaft, then
I feel a bit better... still confused as to why it's reading low, but
better.
The condition inspection got pushed back until next Tuesday, so I'll have my
A&P take a look at the cable to see what he thinks.
Thanks everyone!
Dan
On 06/10/2010 01:17 PM, Jeff Boatright wrote:
If the tach gear looks buggered up, then look for metal bits in the oil.
What does your oil look like? What does the screen look like? Or do you
have a filter? Regardless, things often don't get caught by screens and
filters. Might be a good idea to drain the oil, let stuff settle in the
pan (start off with a clean pan), and then rub your fingers around the
bottom. This is how we figured out that are generator gear was eating
itself.
On 06/10/2010 11:54 AM, Ryan Mueller wrote:
Dan,
The tach connection is mechanical. A cable runs from the tach drive on
the engine to the tachometer. The tach drive is located on the accessory
case, to the right and slightly below the oil screen:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4063/4688608856_e6d98a78da_b.jpg
And in that hole (with the arrow) is a gear that the tach cable gear
meshes with, right?
Hmmmm... all of a sudden I'm afraid to look in that hole! What if the
worm gear is starting to eat itself? What if the metal shavings are
making their way back into the engine? Or, am I letting my paranoia
take control and I should just shut up and fly?
--
Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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| Subject: | Re: Stearman incident in DC |
| From: | "Jerry Dotson" <jdotson(at)erec.net> |
Saw a video on CNN. It looked like he landed with the brakes locked.
--------
Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
Ribs and tailfeathers done
using Lycoming O-235
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| Subject: | Re: the mystery of the degrading tachometer reading |
| From: | "Jerry Dotson" <jdotson(at)erec.net> |
Dan if the tach is steady...not bouncing around my $0.02 is either the magnet is
getting weak or the tach has internal friction. Wish you were near I would loan
you mine to test it. The needle is removable and could have slipped. Not too
likely.
--------
Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
Ribs and tailfeathers done
using Lycoming O-235
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| From: | shad bell <aviatorbell(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Update on oh piet gathering |
Well, just another update, got everything ready for next weekend, hanger is cleaned
up, Dad's piet is getting closed up after the annual inspection. Engine
ground runs were good, and all thats left is to cowl it up re track the prop and
wash her down. A 2 month annual seems lengthy, but I got interupted when I
decided to add on to my hanger back in early april. Just a side note, I got
a call tonight from an old model airplane club guy I met 15+ yrs ago when I was
a young teenager, (haven't talked to him in 15+yrs), and he heard about the
fly in and told me he just bought a piet a few days ago, with a cont. down in
southern ohio. He said he probably won't make the fly-in due to a family reunion,
but thats one more ohio piet for next year. Also to the ohio area guys,
The Mt. Vernon Wynkoop WACO fly-in is the sat after our Ohio Piet Gathering,
I took a vacation day and plan on flying over, if anyone else plans on attending
let me know, I meet up with
you.
Time for sleep,
Shad
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| From: | Al Bane <adb7(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | O-200 Mount (replacing C-85) |
Greetings,
I am part of a builders group called Scounge Dawg Aviation in the Metro East area
of St. Louis (splinter group of EAA 64). We are in the process of rebuilding
Art Holiman's GN-1 (N396S) that he crashed in 1997 I believe. Some of you
may remember that one, as I know Art had it up to Brodhead in the 90's. One of
our guys, Brian Kissinger, wrote a short article about our group for the BPA
newsletter a couple of issues back.
Anyway, Art had a C-85 engine on the plane. We do not have that engine or the
mount (I understand he used a Cub mount). We do
have an O-200 that we are going to use. We hope to use the same holes on the firewall
(18 3/4" W X 18 5/16 H), but are looking for recommendations from anyone
who has made this (or similar) conversion. If there is no existing mount that
we can bolt on, we are prepared to fabricate one ourselves or have someone
else do it if necessary.
In searching the archives, I saw where Jack Phillips made this conversion on his
C-140. Jack, if you have any recommendations, we'd love to hear about your
experience. Or anyone else who can help us out. Appreciate any feedback we can
get.
Thanks.
Al Bane
Troy, IL
By the way, I am building my own Pietenpol. I bought Bill See's project last fall
and recently bought Ryan Mueller's A-65
that he was selling a few weeks ago. I'm currently flying a Quicksilver Sport
2S out of Litchfield, IL, home of Perry Rhoads' (formerly Vi Kapler's) Piet.
So I'm sure I'll be on here a lot if the future with my questions.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | CozyGirrrl(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: O-200 Mount (replacing C-85) |
Dear Al,
We are just across the river in St Charles. We have an engine mount fixture
for Piets, check out _www.CozyGirrrl.com_ (http://www.CozyGirrrl.com)
Regards, Chrissi
In a message dated 6/10/2010 11:21:54 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
adb7(at)earthlink.net writes:
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Al Bane
Greetings,
I am part of a builders group called Scounge Dawg Aviation in the Metro
East area of St. Louis (splinter group of EAA 64). We are in the process of
rebuilding Art Holiman's GN-1 (N396S) that he crashed in 1997 I believe.
Some of you may remember that one, as I know Art had it up to Brodhead in
the 90's. One of our guys, Brian Kissinger, wrote a short article about our
group for the BPA newsletter a couple of issues back.
Anyway, Art had a C-85 engine on the plane. We do not have that engine or
the mount (I understand he used a Cub mount). We do
have an O-200 that we are going to use. We hope to use the same holes on
the firewall (18 3/4" W X 18 5/16 H), but are looking for recommendations
from anyone who has made this (or similar) conversion. If there is no
existing mount that we can bolt on, we are prepared to fabricate one ourselves
or have someone else do it if necessary.
In searching the archives, I saw where Jack Phillips made this conversion
on his C-140. Jack, if you have any recommendations, we'd love to hear
about your experience. Or anyone else who can help us out. Appreciate any
feedback we can get.
Thanks.
Al Bane
Troy, IL
By the way, I am building my own Pietenpol. I bought Bill See's project
last fall and recently bought Ryan Mueller's A-65
that he was selling a few weeks ago. I'm currently flying a Quicksilver
Sport 2S out of Litchfield, IL, home of Perry Rhoads' (formerly Vi Kapler's)
Piet. So I'm sure I'll be on here a lot if the future with my questions.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | O-200 Mount (replacing C-85) |
When I converted my Cessna 140 from a C-85 to an O-200 it required a new
engine mount. As I recall, the mounting lugs on the engine are in the same
place for both engines, but the O-200 uses Lord Mounts which are much larger
(about 2" in diameter, and about 10 times as expensive), while the C-85 uses
the small conical bushings like an A65 uses.
I think you will have to make a new mount. I don't know much about GN-1's -
I've never seen the plans for one, but if it used a Cub mount originally,
there may be aftermarket mounts available to convert a J-3 to an O-200 that
would drop right in. Check with Univair (very pricey) or with Steve Krog
and the Cub Club.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Raleigh, NC
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Al Bane
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 12:20 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: O-200 Mount (replacing C-85)
Greetings,
I am part of a builders group called Scounge Dawg Aviation in the Metro East
area of St. Louis (splinter group of EAA 64). We are in the process of
rebuilding Art Holiman's GN-1 (N396S) that he crashed in 1997 I believe.
Some of you may remember that one, as I know Art had it up to Brodhead in
the 90's. One of our guys, Brian Kissinger, wrote a short article about our
group for the BPA newsletter a couple of issues back.
Anyway, Art had a C-85 engine on the plane. We do not have that engine or
the mount (I understand he used a Cub mount). We do
have an O-200 that we are going to use. We hope to use the same holes on
the firewall (18 3/4" W X 18 5/16 H), but are looking for recommendations
from anyone who has made this (or similar) conversion. If there is no
existing mount that we can bolt on, we are prepared to fabricate one
ourselves or have someone else do it if necessary.
In searching the archives, I saw where Jack Phillips made this conversion on
his C-140. Jack, if you have any recommendations, we'd love to hear about
your experience. Or anyone else who can help us out. Appreciate any
feedback we can get.
Thanks.
Al Bane
Troy, IL
By the way, I am building my own Pietenpol. I bought Bill See's project
last fall and recently bought Ryan Mueller's A-65
that he was selling a few weeks ago. I'm currently flying a Quicksilver
Sport 2S out of Litchfield, IL, home of Perry Rhoads' (formerly Vi Kapler's)
Piet. So I'm sure I'll be on here a lot if the future with my questions.
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Fwd: Jake's 1931 Pietenpol replica update... |
| From: | "bluiewest1" <mseckinger1(at)netzero.net> |
Wayne,
Were there some pix attached to Jake's e-mail?
Thanks
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=300953#300953
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| From: | Dan Yocum <yocum137(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: the mystery of the degrading tachometer reading |
Jerry,
I think you're on to something. If oil got in between the magnets, I
bet some gunk got in the needle "bearing" area, too. That probably
needs to be cleaned out.
Ok, now Im not as worried as I was.
Thanks again, everyone.
Dan
--
yocum(at)gmail.com
On Jun 10, 2010, at 6:09 PM, Jerry Dotson wrote:
>
>
> Dan if the tach is steady...not bouncing around my $0.02 is either
> the magnet is getting weak or the tach has internal friction. Wish
> you were near I would loan you mine to test it. The needle is
> removable and could have slipped. Not too likely.
>
> --------
> Jerry Dotson
> 59 Daniel Johnson Rd
> Baker, FL 32531
>
> Started building NX510JD July, 2009
> Ribs and tailfeathers done
> using Lycoming O-235
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=300893#300893
>
>
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| From: | "bcolleran" <bcolleran(at)comcast.net> |
Hey guys I am getting ready tomorrow to start the fuselage. Any tips?
Also what is the 21 1/2" Measurment for on the top right side?
Thanks,
Bill
N424BK
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=300979#300979
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage Tips |
| From: | "flea" <jimgriggs(at)yahoo.com> |
That thar would be a big ol gusset.
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| From: | "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5(at)comcast.net> |
Consider moving the top of the rear seatback back a couple inches, unless
you like sitting at attention...wish I had.
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(18 ribs down.)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of bcolleran
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 7:56 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage Tips
Hey guys I am getting ready tomorrow to start the fuselage. Any tips?
Also what is the 21 1/2" Measurment for on the top right side?
Thanks,
Bill
N424BK
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage Tips |
| From: | Ameet Savant <ameetsavant(at)gmail.com> |
I think that's the location of the passenger instrument panel. See the
drawing just below the one you scanned.
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 9:56 PM, bcolleran wrote:
>
> Hey guys I am getting ready tomorrow to start the fuselage. Any tips?
>
> Also what is the 21 1/2" Measurment for on the top right side?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
> N424BK
>
>
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| From: | Ben Charvet <bcharvet(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Fuselage Tips |
On 6/12/2010 12:40 AM, Gary Boothe wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gary Boothe"
>
> Consider moving the top of the rear seatback back a couple inches, unless
> you like sitting at attention...wish I had.
>
>
I thought the same thing the first time I sat in the fuselage . Now
that the airplane is flying its perfectly comfortable. Maybe if I was
taller (I'm 5'8") I would feel different, but now I'm glad I stuck to
the plans.
The upright position keeps your head closer to the windshield, and your
CG forward, both good things to think about.
Ben Charvet
NX866BC
34 hours so far
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage Tips |
| From: | "flea" <jimgriggs(at)yahoo.com> |
its not the pass. inst. panel because on the drawing below it show the panel 15"
back plus 6.25" back. thats 21.25". It's very close to the same location, but
on the drawing asked about the 21.5" is showing the length of the dotted line,
which is as we know a hidden detail. The only hidden details in this particular
drawing would be the gussets.
Check out westcoastpiet.com for tons of high quality pics of high quality work
on every single part of the plane if you haven't already done so. The only reason
I have not asked a ton of questions here is because pictures really are worth
a thousand, in this case not only words but potentially dollars too.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=300992#300992
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| From: | "Peter W Johnson" <vk3eka(at)bigpond.net.au> |
| Subject: | Re: Fuselage Tips |
Jim,
Check out http://pietenpol.cpc-world.com/images/IMG_0315_JPG.jpg
Looks like the gusset along the fuse side for the Model A engine bay.
Cheers
Peter
Wonthaggi Australia
http://pietenpol.cpc-world.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of flea
Sent: Saturday, 12 June 2010 11:21 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuselage Tips
its not the pass. inst. panel because on the drawing below it show the panel
15" back plus 6.25" back. thats 21.25". It's very close to the same
location, but on the drawing asked about the 21.5" is showing the length of
the dotted line, which is as we know a hidden detail. The only hidden
details in this particular drawing would be the gussets.
Check out westcoastpiet.com for tons of high quality pics of high quality
work on every single part of the plane if you haven't already done so. The
only reason I have not asked a ton of questions here is because pictures
really are worth a thousand, in this case not only words but potentially
dollars too.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=300992#300992
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage Tips |
| From: | "flea" <jimgriggs(at)yahoo.com> |
thats the gusset I was talking about 21 and a half inches long. also a good example
of the beautiful work I was talking about. Makes mine look like a kindergarten
finger painting project.
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| From: | "Jack" <jack(at)textors.com> |
Bill it is the dimension for a 1/8 inch stiffener that goes on the inside of
the frame. See it here on my site. http://textors.com/IMG_1816_640x427.jpg
Jack
DSM
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of bcolleran
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 9:56 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage Tips
Hey guys I am getting ready tomorrow to start the fuselage. Any tips?
Also what is the 21 1/2" Measurment for on the top right side?
Thanks,
Bill
N424BK
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=300979#300979
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage Tips |
| From: | "Don Emch" <EmchAir(at)aol.com> |
Ben,
I couldn't agree with you more on the seat back angle. Mr. Pietenpol must have
figured out in the previous airplanes he built that a more straight seat back
angle was a good thing. I often find myself leaning a little off of the seat
back to stay within the windshield better. Seldom do I find myself wanting to
lean back. On landing the "at attention" angle is a very good thing. You sure
don't want to be "at ease". Ha!
Don Emch
NX899DE
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| From: | "wayne(at)taildraggersinc.com" <wayne(at)taildraggersinc.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Fwd: Jake's 1931 Pietenpol replica update... |
Marion,
Here are the pictures that Jake sent. I hope they come through this time!
Wayne Bressler
Taildraggers, Inc.
www.taildraggersinc.com
25
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| From: | "Jack" <jack(at)textors.com> |
Bill,
I angled my rear seat back two inches, back one inch at the top and forward
one inch at the bottom, which keeps the balance closer to original. I had
another fuselage which I didn't utilize where I could simulate many
different angles. Also, when it comes to gussets and blocks, stay close to
plans. For example I added a block (shown in link) thinking it would help
the strength and found out later it made the cutting and installation of the
V braces on the front seat harder to do. I had to place them in front of
the seat and wanted to position to the rear of the seat. You can see here...
http://textors.com/IMG_1939_640x427.jpg . Many other shots at
www.textors.com.
Enjoy,
Jack
DSM
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of bcolleran
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 9:56 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage Tips
Hey guys I am getting ready tomorrow to start the fuselage. Any tips?
Also what is the 21 1/2" Measurment for on the top right side?
Thanks,
Bill
N424BK
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage Tips |
| From: | Rick Holland <at7000ft(at)gmail.com> |
I started fuselage construction building a mock fuselage out of scrap wood
(as recommended in the Bingelis books). Not only helped me figure out if I
wanted to change my seat back angle and increase turtle deck heights (and
widen my fuselage by 2 inches), but I also learned a lot about how
everything went together. So I had few problems when I started cutting the
expensive wood.
I also added simulated wing ribs and cabanes to see how much to increase
cabane length (see attached). And when you are done with it the kids can use
it for a sled or something.
rick
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 8:56 PM, bcolleran wrote:
>
> Hey guys I am getting ready tomorrow to start the fuselage. Any tips?
>
> Also what is the 21 1/2" Measurment for on the top right side?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
> N424BK
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=300979#300979
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0585_165.jpg
>
>
--
Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage Tips |
| From: | "Kringle" <Mrkringles(at)msn.com> |
Being new to this, I've been reading every post. I have even started to go back
and read most of the old posts. I am about to order plans and am counting on
you guys to help me out!
--------
John
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage Tips |
| From: | Rick Holland <at7000ft(at)gmail.com> |
No problemo John. Get those plans ordered and bring on the questions. You
are about to begin a life-altering experience (some would call if a
life-mutating experience). And try to make it to Brodhead if you can, its
only a month and a half away, and you may even get a ride in a Piet.
rick
On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Kringle wrote:
>
> Being new to this, I've been reading every post. I have even started to go
> back and read most of the old posts. I am about to order plans and am
> counting on you guys to help me out!
>
> --------
> John
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=301015#301015
>
>
--
Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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| Subject: | Re: making big parts small! |
| From: | "K5YAC" <hangar10(at)cox.net> |
I did the same thing Rick... except my count was a little over 1000 pieces since
I installed uprights in front and behind each spar, plus the additional uprights
on the on the 6 end ribs. I probably would not install the uprights in front
and behind each spar again. It seems to be a bit much, and they were a minor
pain to slide onto the ribs. I think the single uprights (or maybe none
at all as per the original plans) would probably be sufficient.
I went through a dozen emery boards sanding each of those gussets before I glued
them. A sanding block would have have required minimal effort. I'll remember
that in the future.
--------
Mark - working on wings
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| From: | "Jack" <jack(at)textors.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Fuselage Tips |
That's great news John, you came to the right place!
Jack
DSM
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kringle
Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 3:34 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuselage Tips
Being new to this, I've been reading every post. I have even started to go
back and read most of the old posts. I am about to order plans and am
counting on you guys to help me out!
--------
John
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| From: | "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg(at)earthlink.net> |
Hey Al,
What prop are you going to use on the 0200?
Douwe
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| From: | "ALAN LYSCARS" <alyscars(at)myfairpoint.net> |
Douwe,
I'll be using the 100hp Corvair along with whatever William Wynne recommends
in wood. I'd love to hang a scimitar but I doubt it would be very
efficient.
Al Lyscars
----- Original Message -----
From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg(at)earthlink.net>
Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 10:43 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: 0200
>
>
> Hey Al,
>
> What prop are you going to use on the 0200?
>
> Douwe
>
>
>
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| From: | Al Bane <adb7(at)earthlink.net> |
Douwe,
I don't know that yet. We're looking to "scrounge" one somewhere. Any suggestions?
The original plane was heavy. In the 1994 Brodhead W&B measurements, it
weighed in at 820 lbs. empty with the C-85.
Al
-----Original Message-----
>From: Douwe Blumberg <douweblumberg(at)earthlink.net>
>Sent: Jun 12, 2010 9:43 PM
>To: pietenpolgroup
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: 0200
>
>
>Hey Al,
>
>What prop are you going to use on the 0200?
>
>Douwe
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Dan Yocum <yocum137(at)gmail.com> |
Gents,
The sensenich catalog has some suggestions on prop/engine combos on
their experimental page.
Dan
--
yocum(at)gmail.com
On Jun 13, 2010, at 12:12 AM, Al Bane wrote:
>
> Douwe,
>
> I don't know that yet. We're looking to "scrounge" one somewhere.
> Any suggestions? The original plane was heavy. In the 1994
> Brodhead W&B measurements, it weighed in at 820 lbs. empty with the
> C-85.
>
> Al
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Douwe Blumberg <douweblumberg(at)earthlink.net>
>> Sent: Jun 12, 2010 9:43 PM
>> To: pietenpolgroup
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: 0200
>>
>> >
>>
>> Hey Al,
>>
>> What prop are you going to use on the 0200?
>>
>> Douwe
>>
>>
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| From: | Oscar Zuniga <taildrags(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | O-200 Mount (replacing C-85) |
>From my A&P friend in New Mexico:
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>That is true.... kind of. The Lord Mounts also move the
>engine forward about 1", so it also messes up your CG, cable
>lengths, fuel line, wiring and cowling. However, there is a
>work around for that. Look at eBay item no. 270512715002
>for example.
>When I replaced the C-85 on my KR with an O-200, I bought a set
>of these adapters that fit inside the holes in the case where
>the Lord mount would go and allowed me to use the small conical
>mount bushings used in the rest of the A and C series engines.
>Each of the mount bosses has a machined aluminum cone inserted
>in the front and back to adapt the engine to the small conical
>mounts. I bought these adapters from the Don Luscombe Foundation
>in Chandler, AZ. They had intended to try to get a STC for
>using those adapters on Luscombes, but I don't know if they ever
>obtained it. However, for the Experimentals like Piets, it's a
>no brainer if you don't want to change anything but the HP.
>The engine is mounted to the same mount as I used for my C-85.
>Even if you chose to use the Lord mounts, it would still bolt to
>the same engine mount. I suspect the reason why the C-140
>required a new mount was for CG reasons, although I have seen a
>C-140 upgraded to an O-200 without changing the mount. He had to
>extend the cowling instead to accommodate the Lord mounts.
>I have 450+ hours flying behind this configuration and haven't
>noted any kind of excessive vibration passed to the airframe
>by using these small conical mounts.
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Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | Re: Fwd: Jake's 1931 Pietenpol replica update... |
| From: | "pflyboy" <nick_d_av8r(at)msn.com> |
Beautiful!
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=301080#301080
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| From: | "dwilson" <marwilson(at)charter.net> |
HARMONY Goldie A. Hoopman, age 96 of Austin, died Tuesday, June 8, 2010, at Harmony
Health Care Center in Harmony.
Memorial Service will be held on Friday, June 25th, 2010, at 1:30 p.m. at the Cherry
Grove United Methodist Church, with Reverend Mark Radar and Reverend Beth
Perez officiating. Visitation will be on Thursday, June 24th, from 4 p.m. to
7 p.m. at Clasen-Jordan Mortuary in Austin. Burial will be in the Cherry Grove
Cemetery.
Clasen-Jordan Mortuary, 209 2nd Ave. N.W., Austin, MN 55912. (507) 433-5727
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=301083#301083
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| From: | "Jack" <jack(at)textors.com> |
| Subject: | Transponder Connector Depth Question |
Trying to rough-in the location of my transponder ala Jack Phillips, in the
rear center section and not sure if I will have enough depth. Can anyone
tell me the approximate depth of a connector? Do they make them in a right
angle? I'm also concerned that I won't be able to see the numbers. I'm
using a King KT 76a, where the numbers are above the knobs. Jack, am I
correct that I should locate left or right of center to enable seeing the
numbers?
Thanks,
Jack
DSM
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| From: | "Clif Dawson" <CDAWSON5854(at)shaw.ca> |
| Subject: | Re: Transponder Connector Depth Question |
Transponder Connector Depth QuestionWhy not turn it upside down? Mine is
going to be sideways
by my right leg.
Clif
Seneca: "There is no great genius without a tincture of madness."
I'm also concerned that I won't be able to see the numbers. I'm using
a King KT 76a, where the numbers are above the knobs. Thanks,
Jack
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| From: | "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Transponder Connector Depth Question |
I also have a King KT96A. I would not try to mount it until you have the
appropriate tray with the connecting harness. You might need to tilt it
slightly to be easier to see, but I just stick my head out into the
slipstream to read the numbers.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Raleigh, NC
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 3:35 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Transponder Connector Depth Question
Trying to rough-in the location of my transponder ala Jack Phillips, in the
rear center section and not sure if I will have enough depth. Can anyone
tell me the approximate depth of a connector? Do they make them in a right
angle? I'm also concerned that I won't be able to see the numbers. I'm
using a King KT 76a, where the numbers are above the knobs. Jack, am I
correct that I should locate left or right of center to enable seeing the
numbers?
Thanks,
Jack
DSM
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| From: | Matthew VanDervort <matthew.vandervort(at)gmail.com> |
So I finally have a pietenpol wing in my garage, have just started
removing fabric and cutting rib stitching, hoping to get the fuselage
moved in eary next week.
Just going to go thru it real well, and get it recovered and flying
again! It hasn't flown for about 8 years or so I think, so wish me
luck!! And the looks from te neighbors was priceless! Just moved into
my house in April, I think the neighbors thought I was kidding when I
warned them about my projects!
A quick history, my grandpa built it in the late 60's, corvair
powered, he all but flew the wings off it! and well I can't wait to
get it going!!
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