Pietenpol-Archive.digest.vol-kp
July 14, 2011 - July 26, 2011
Parrish Medical center
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| Subject: | Re: Introductions |
| From: | "xTrainwrecKx" <derek.brundage(at)gmail.com> |
John... thank you for pointing me in the right direction for my journey to become
one of the Pietenpol Elite.
Very respectfully,
Derek
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| Subject: | Re: Introductions and Rants of instability |
| From: | "K5YAC" <hangar10(at)cox.net> |
Oh, that is GREAT! Mr. Gelato Di Babbo will now be known as Les. Haa! See what
you get!
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Mark Chouinard
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| From: | "PatrickW" <pwhoyt(at)yahoo.com> |
I considered using the VW-TDI diesel engine for a Pietenpol.
This is a turbocharged diesel having peak torque at 1850 rpm. Puts out 90 HP from
the factory, about 116 HP as I have tuned. Can hook up a laptop computer
to it for you computer guys out there.
I don't know the weight of the engine. It is liquid cooled, but efficient. When
idling the coolant temperature will drop, and it actually has electric heating
elements in the coolant to provide "passenger comfort" in the winter. Translation:
maybe a small radiator would be good enough.
I have one of these engines in my current car, however the turbocharger recently
failed after 11 years and 210,000 miles. Not a scenario I'd want to face in
the air, but I believe there are warning signs now that I didn't know of before.
Pictures here: https://picasaweb.google.com/Patrick.Hoyt/TurbochargerFailure#
I've already ordered a larger (more reliable?) turbocharger, with plans to get
this running again soon in my car. However if that doesn't work out (I'm thinking
"bent rods" here), then I'll junk the car and consider doing a total rebuild
on that engine if the block and crankshaft remain salvageable.
Some obvious questions that I don't have answers for are (a) how much does the
VW-TDI engine weigh in a flight configuration? (b) how do I attach a prop hub
to that particular crankshaft? (c) do I need any kind of additional bearing on
the crank snout?, (d) what kind of prop would be used?, and (e) would I enjoy
flying a Diesel Piet to the kind of airports that sell JetA....
The idea of "homebuilding" - or I should say "homebrewing" - my own fuel is also
appealing.
Not saying that this is something that I'll realistically ever do, or even if it
would work. But I've got the engine and the skills (I think) to get me a good
way there, and it is one of those things I've been thinking about for a while.
If I pursue this, the smart thing might be to prove it out in something like
an airboat first....
The final proof would have to be by virtue of flying it. Lynn Rusch actually DID
it, whereas all I have is just an idea at this point.
For what it's worth, I also have an old Mercedes diesel engine in another car.
It's a 67 HP 4 cylinder. Seat of the pants experience tells me it's half as
powerful as the turbocharged VW, and my gut feeling is that my Mercedes engine
is a lot heavier. I have no numbers to back that up though.
- Patrick Hoyt
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Patrick Hoyt
601XLb/Corvair
N63PZ - 99.999% done....
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| Subject: | "Broad" head dates- new from IL. |
| From: | helspersew(at)aol.com |
Glenn,
Welcome. You mentioned "I will be at Brodhead this weekend"
Brodhead starts 7/19. I know its hard to wait, but something we all must su
ffer.
Dan Helsper
Pur-Year TN
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| Subject: | The Great Waldo Pepper |
| From: | helspersew(at)aol.com |
This will get you in the mood.
http://www.youtube.com/v/Q2i-N5-OHtc?version=3">| Subject: | TGWP |
| From: | helspersew(at)aol.com |
................and the best moment of all........... is at the end of the
day......Scooter is finally getting his "free ride" in exchange for lugging
the gas from town all day. Waldo is giving him the ride of his life, climb
ing in and out of the clouds to the background music of "The Great Waldo Pe
pper March"....and then you see Scooter reach down and hug his dog, to the
delight of Waldo...........................................................
................. priceless
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| Subject: | Re: "Broad" head dates- new from IL. |
| From: | "freerangequark" <freerangequark(at)gmail.com> |
Hi Dan,
I edited my post to read "next weekend" once I realized I was off by a week.
I can't wait! :)
Glenn
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| Subject: | Re: New to the list, Illinois. |
| From: | "freerangequark" <freerangequark(at)gmail.com> |
I'll freely and quite happily admit that I had to Google the term. :D
Glenn
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| From: | "tkreiner" <tkreiner(at)gmail.com> |
After having driven VW diesels (3 of which have been and/or are TDI's), I too,
have looked into converting the TDI into an aircraft engine. There are many considerations,
including the fuel system, removal of many accessory pads on the
block, and the like. That said, the engine is a real dynamo; our current Jetta
TDI runs like a scalded cat.
The long block weighs roughly 260 lbs., and the completed engine with accessories
weighs roughly 350 lbs. The final weight depends on the shipping pallet, etc.
These are now becoming so popular, that I've seen complete (rebuildable ) engines
with a few minor issues for as low as $400.
In order to convert, you really only need a crankshaft mount for the prop hub,
and that would need to be carefully designed (right up my alley). There are a
few resources on the 'Net discussing Torque, which, rather than horsepower, is
what swings the prop. The VW has loads of torque, and would do a great job
of swinging a Piet prop.
As for the turbo... Whatever you do, DON'T install a larger turbo. The turbo is
sized to the displacement and rpm's of the engine, and changing the size of
either inlet or outlet rotors (or the input - output ratios) will most likely
change the torque characteristics of the engine. If you have access to a SuperFlow
900 series engine dyno, along with a selection of different turbos, however,
you might get lucky and be able to test your way to increased power, torque,
something, maybe? Kind of doubt it, but it would be fun trying.
Personally, with over 1M miles on VW diesels, and over 400K miles on TDI's, I'd
leave the turbo as is.
If you want to improve the life of any turbo, there are a few rules:
1. Never rev the engine at startup and this will destroy dry turbo bearings.
The bearings are sleeve bearings, and the turbo will not have lubrication until
full oil pressure has been reached. Wait 6 to 10 seconds.
2. Never shut the engine down fast... allow it to cool for at least 15 seconds
on a warm day, and at least 60 seconds after highway driving.. like when you
pull in for gas, er, I meant diesel.
3. Always, always, make sure the oil is exactly as the mfr. describes in the literature;
NEVER deviate, as you'll be looking for trouble. In VW's in particular,
the new oils are critical to turbo life.
If you like, you can add a small oil accumulator, which after shut down, will bleed
oil into the turbo bearings for a minute or so, thereby allowing you to shut
the engine down immediately after a hot run without turbo bearing damage.
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Tom Kreiner
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| From: | "Richard Schreiber" <lmforge(at)earthlink.net> |
Good People:
I was just wonderin, have we ever shown The Great Waldo Peper at Brodhead? I have
a copy and will bring it if we have a projector.
Rick Schreiber
Valparaiso, IN
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| Subject: | Re: The Great Waldo Pepper |
| From: | "aerocarjake" <flight.jake(at)gmail.com> |
Hello good people....... Wonderful little clip..! Thanks for sending the link......
I've got something related to TGWP in the works but you all will have to wait a
couple weeks until I can share the story..........
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Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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| From: | "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net> |
It has been shown several times on the hangar at the south end of the
airport for the Saturday Night Feature. It's probably about time for it to
be shown again.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard
Schreiber
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 8:16 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: The GWP
Good People:
I was just wonderin, have we ever shown The Great Waldo Peper at Brodhead? I
have a copy and will bring it if we have a projector.
Rick Schreiber
Valparaiso, IN
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| From: | "IT Girl" <shlizbth(at)gmail.com> |
I have a projector, and the movie... was hoping for a open air late night screening.....
can someone bring a PC to hook the projector to... and speakers?
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Shelley Tumino
IT Girl
wife of "Axel"
NX899KP
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| From: | "Amsafetyc(at)aol.com" <Amsafetyc(at)aol.com> |
I think she is worth top billing!
John
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From: IT Girl <shlizbth(at)gmail.com>
Sent: Fri, Jul 15, 2011 01:46:52 GMT+00:00
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: The GWP
I have a projector, and the movie... was hoping for a open air late night
screening..... can someone bring a PC to hook the projector to... and
speakers?
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Shelley Tumino
IT Girl
wife of "Axel"
NX899KP
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| From: | "Amsafetyc(at)aol.com" <Amsafetyc(at)aol.com> |
Do we have to cut up her cloths so they fly off while she's up there?
I will volunteer now as to prevent embarrassment for the rest of the group
fearful they may be selected for the task
A real giver just the kinda guy I am
John
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Sent: Fri, Jul 15, 2011 01:46:52 GMT+00:00
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: The GWP
I have a projector, and the movie... was hoping for a open air late night
screening..... can someone bring a PC to hook the projector to... and
speakers?
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Shelley Tumino
IT Girl
wife of "Axel"
NX899KP
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| From: | "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net> |
I'll have a laptop, but no speakers
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of IT Girl
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 9:44 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: The GWP
I have a projector, and the movie... was hoping for a open air late night
screening..... can someone bring a PC to hook the projector to... and
speakers?
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Shelley Tumino
IT Girl
wife of "Axel"
NX899KP
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| Subject: | Re: New to the list, Illinois. |
| From: | "xTrainwrecKx" <derek.brundage(at)gmail.com> |
Hi Glenn! I am new as well... and also looking to construct a Piet. Make sure you
take extra pics for those of us that can't make it this year... *cough..cough*
Very respectfully,
Derek
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| From: | "IT Girl" <shlizbth(at)gmail.com> |
God I hope so... I got 2 cases of beets I am hoping you double fisted beet swilling
flatulent guys will relieve me of as soon as we get there!
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Shelley Tumino
IT Girl
wife of "Axel"
NX899KP
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| Subject: | Re: New to the list, Illinois. |
| From: | "K5YAC" <hangar10(at)cox.net> |
Initiation ritual... hmm. Not sure.
Could just have something to do with the fact that you walked in the room when
all of us were getting our gear packed for the best weekend of the year. The
list has been pretty active over the last week or so. As you probably read, our
other new friend Derek managed to fire up one of our favorite debates, "Why
Corvairs make the best airplane engines"... which normally goes on for days,
but could fizzle temporarily as our minds wander to beets, brats, Saturday afternoon
drawings and the cove. You on the other hand... well, fumunda and smegma
are currently dominating your thread. Pretty thin on the howdy doos or welcome
aboard comments. The reason? That is debatable. Some people just have
it I guess (speaking of the cheese again). But I think you owe a big thanks to
one Mr. Hofmann... I'm telling ya, you can't take that guy anywhere.
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Mark Chouinard
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| From: | "Amsafetyc(at)gmail.com" <amsafetyc(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: New to the list, Illinois. |
Call it a feeding frenzy of pent up airoplane fervor, akin to the buy one
get one free lawn chair sale during midnight madness at the Walmart
superstore. Its just Brodhead overload. We have all been counting the days
since our last beet and brautfest. Where the dress of the day demanded Pith
helmets and beets.
There are the old stand by activities and then there are the whoda think it
things that arise out of spontaneous acts of others kiss no tellin.
One thing is for certain it will be interesting and it will be great. I
can't wait for santa to arrive in July
John
Don't care if ya archive or not archivin is for oh well who cares anyway
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From: K5YAC <hangar10(at)cox.net>
Sent: Fri, Jul 15, 2011 04:11:40 GMT+00:00
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New to the list, Illinois.
Initiation ritual... hmm. Not sure.
Could just have something to do with the fact that you walked in the room
when all of us were getting our gear packed for the best weekend of the
year. The list has been pretty active over the last week or so. As you
probably read, our other new friend Derek managed to fire up one of our
favorite debates, "Why Corvairs make the best airplane engines"... which
normally goes on for days, but could fizzle temporarily as our minds wander
to beets, brats, Saturday afternoon drawings and the cove. You on the other
hand... well, fumunda and smegma are currently dominating your thread.
Pretty thin on the howdy doos or welcome aboard comments. The reason? That
is debatable. Some people just have it I guess (speaking of the cheese
again). But I think you owe a big thanks to one Mr. Hofmann... I'm telling
ya, you can't take that guy anywhere.
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Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
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| From: | John Hofmann <jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com> |
| Subject: | Re: New to the list, Illinois. |
My wife says the same thing.
Beware! Lord Bratlimore's return to the Cove fast approaches as Holy
Week (Jack P coined it) is nigh upon us!
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com
On Jul 14, 2011, at 11:07 PM, K5YAC wrote:
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> Could just have something to do with the fact that you walked in the
room when all of us were getting our gear packed for the best weekend of
the year. The list has been pretty active over the last week or so. As
you probably read, our other new friend Derek managed to fire up one of
our favorite debates, "Why Corvairs make the best airplane engines"...
which normally goes on for days, but could fizzle temporarily as our
minds wander to beets, brats, Saturday afternoon drawings and the cove.
You on the other hand... well, fumunda and smegma are currently
dominating your thread. Pretty thin on the howdy doos or welcome aboard
comments. The reason? That is debatable. Some people just have it I
guess (speaking of the cheese again). But I think you owe a big thanks
to one Mr. Hofmann... I'm telling ya, you can't take that guy anywhere.
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> Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
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| From: | "K5YAC" <hangar10(at)cox.net> |
That almost sounds complimentary! [Wink]
IT Girl wrote:
> double fisted beet swilling flatulent guys
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Mark Chouinard
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| From: | "Amsafetyc(at)aol.com" <Amsafetyc(at)aol.com> |
| Subject: | Re: New to the list, Illinois. |
Perfect
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From: John Hofmann <jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com>
Sent: Fri, Jul 15, 2011 04:31:35 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: New to the list, Illinois.
My wife says the same thing.
Beware! Lord Bratlimore's return to the Cove fast approaches as Holy Week
(Jack P coined it) is nigh upon us!
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com
On Jul 14, 2011, at 11:07 PM, K5YAC wrote:
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> Initiation ritual... hmm. Not sure.
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> Could just have something to do with the fact that you walked in the room
when all of us were getting our gear packed for the best weekend of the
year. The list has been pretty active over the last week or so. As you
probably read, our other new friend Derek managed to fire up one of our
favorite debates, "Why Corvairs make the best airplane engines"... which
normally goes on for days, but could fizzle temporarily as our minds wander
to beets, brats, Saturday afternoon drawings and the cove. You on the other
hand... well, fumunda and smegma are currently dominating your thread.
Pretty thin on the howdy doos or welcome aboard comments. The reason? That
is debatable. Some people just have it I guess (speaking of the cheese
again). But I think you owe a big thanks to one Mr. Hofmann... I'm telling
ya, you can't take that guy anywhere.
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> Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
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| From: | "Amsafetyc(at)aol.com" <Amsafetyc(at)aol.com> |
Smells lyrical I would say
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From: K5YAC <hangar10(at)cox.net>
Sent: Fri, Jul 15, 2011 04:34:51 GMT+00:00
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Beets
That almost sounds complimentary! [Wink]
IT Girl wrote:
> double fisted beet swilling flatulent guys
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| Subject: | Re: New to the list, Illinois. |
| From: | "K5YAC" <hangar10(at)cox.net> |
Told ya! Ha!
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Mark Chouinard
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| From: | "Clif Dawson" <cdawson5854(at)shaw.ca> |
| Subject: | Re: New to the list, Illinois. |
Do these chairs come with a bunch of really big balloons and a jug of
helium? If so I want one.
Clif
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akin to the buy one get one free lawn chair sale during midnight
madness at the Walmart superstore.
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| Subject: | For Glenn and other New Guys |
| From: | "dgaldrich" <dgaldrich(at)embarqmail.com> |
If you are seriously interested in joining this misshapen, ragtag bunch of mistfits,
the EAA Chapter 431 (the owners of Brodhead) may have a deal for you. They
are selling the closest thing you may find to a quick-build kit for the Pietenpol
as a fund raiser. They are selling a fuselage, tail feathers, and a boatload
of Polyfiber covering material as well as some incidental odd pieces.
The fuselage and tail feathers were built this past spring at Sun N Fun N Tornadoes
by a group of guys, some of whom actually admit to being on this list.
Bring your checkbook.
Yes, it's a monoplane.
Dave Aldrich
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| Subject: | Re: Ride swapping at Brodhead |
| From: | "jarheadpilot82" <jarheadpilot82(at)hotmail.com> |
Chuck,
Th original "It Girl" was Clara Bow, the movie actress of the 20' and 30's. Is
that the It girl to whom you are referring?
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Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
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| From: | "Jack" <jack(at)textors.com> |
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem
<http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270781926699&
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Jack Textor
29 SW 58th Drive
Des Moines, IA 50312
www.textors.com
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| Subject: | Re: For Glenn and other New Guys |
| From: | "Bill Church" <billspiet(at)sympatico.ca> |
info here:
http://www.pietenpols.org/id5.html
BC
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| From: | "Dick N" <horzpool(at)goldengate.net> |
| Subject: | Re: For Glenn and other New Guys |
Thanks Dave
I am getting ready to leave for OSH and Brodhead in a few minutes when the
Thunderstorm passes. I will drop off thae fuselage and the rest of the
parts and that will give me claim to be the first to Brodhead for the year
also.
Dick N.
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From: "dgaldrich" <dgaldrich(at)embarqmail.com>
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 3:51 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: For Glenn and other New Guys
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> If you are seriously interested in joining this misshapen, ragtag bunch of
> mistfits, the EAA Chapter 431 (the owners of Brodhead) may have a deal for
> you. They are selling the closest thing you may find to a quick-build kit
> for the Pietenpol as a fund raiser. They are selling a fuselage, tail
> feathers, and a boatload of Polyfiber covering material as well as some
> incidental odd pieces. The fuselage and tail feathers were built this
> past spring at Sun N Fun N Tornadoes by a group of guys, some of whom
> actually admit to being on this list.
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> Bring your checkbook.
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> Yes, it's a monoplane.
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> Dave Aldrich
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| From: | "TOM STINEMETZE" <TOMS(at)mcpcity.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Introductions |
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| Subject: | Colorado Pietenpols |
| From: | "freerangequark" <freerangequark(at)gmail.com> |
Hi,
I didn't want to hijack the High Altitude Pietenpol thread and decided to start
my own.
I currently live in the Chicago are and am considering starting a Pietenpol/Corvair
project.
There is a possibility that within the next couple of years I will be moving to
Longmont, Colorado.
How well will the Pietenpol perform as a two place airplane flying in the Longmont,
Colorado area?
Thanks
-Glenn
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| From: | "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Colorado Pietenpols |
The short answer is that it depends on the engine and the propeller.
Longmont is not actually in the mountains, being about 20 miles east of
Boulder, as I recall. Still, field elevation there will be about 5,000'.
If it were me, I'd put an O-200 Continental on it and stop worrying.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
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freerangequark
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 12:48 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Colorado Pietenpols
Hi,
I didn't want to hijack the High Altitude Pietenpol thread and decided to
start my own.
I currently live in the Chicago are and am considering starting a
Pietenpol/Corvair project.
There is a possibility that within the next couple of years I will be moving
to Longmont, Colorado.
How well will the Pietenpol perform as a two place airplane flying in the
Longmont, Colorado area?
Thanks
-Glenn
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| Subject: | Re: Colorado Pietenpols |
| From: | mark lee <mlmarkelee7(at)gmail.com> |
The Longmont/Boulder area is one thing.Going west from there is another,and
that's where you get into the scenery.I'm looking into the same thing and
the big corvairs look good.They are being built up to 3100cc with careful
attention to compression ratio etc.Know that this area is often prone to
windy conditions but still has a lot of nice weather.The bottom of the east
slope has milder winter weather due to down slope winds warming things up a
bit.A good hanger is very important as I have seen 100mph winds in Boulder
several times.
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 9:47 AM, freerangequark wrote:
> freerangequark(at)gmail.com>
>
> Hi,
>
> I didn't want to hijack the High Altitude Pietenpol thread and decided to
> start my own.
>
> I currently live in the Chicago are and am considering starting a
> Pietenpol/Corvair project.
>
> There is a possibility that within the next couple of years I will be
> moving to Longmont, Colorado.
>
> How well will the Pietenpol perform as a two place airplane flying in the
> Longmont, Colorado area?
>
> Thanks
> -Glenn
>
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> consider the environment and recycle this data after use.
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| Subject: | Re: Colorado Pietenpols |
Hi Glenn,
As Jack said - depends on engine. I fly out of Front Range- on the plains
near DIA. Figure starting at 5,500 at Longmont plus density altitude.
Let me know if you are coming out - my Piet might even be done by then (but
I wouldn't count on it). FYI - I'm doing a Corvair engine.
Cheers
Jon Apfelbaum
In a message dated 7/15/2011 11:10:05 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net writes:
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jack Phillips"
The short answer is that it depends on the engine and the propeller.
Longmont is not actually in the mountains, being about 20 miles east of
Boulder, as I recall. Still, field elevation there will be about 5,000'.
If it were me, I'd put an O-200 Continental on it and stop worrying.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
freerangequark
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 12:48 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Colorado Pietenpols
Hi,
I didn't want to hijack the High Altitude Pietenpol thread and decided to
start my own.
I currently live in the Chicago are and am considering starting a
Pietenpol/Corvair project.
There is a possibility that within the next couple of years I will be
moving
to Longmont, Colorado.
How well will the Pietenpol perform as a two place airplane flying in the
Longmont, Colorado area?
Thanks
-Glenn
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| Subject: | Re: Colorado Pietenpols |
Drop me a line - I'll meet y'all for flying lies and cervesa!
Cheers
Jon
In a message dated 7/15/2011 11:40:20 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
freerangequark(at)gmail.com writes:
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "freerangequark"
Jon,
Will do! I may be out that way in August.
-Glenn
DO NOT ARCHIVE
[quote="Dog67(at)aol.com"]Hi Glenn,
As Jack said - depends on engine. I fly out of Front Range- on the
plains near DIA. Figure starting at 5,500 at Longmont plus density alti
tude.
Let me know if you are coming out - my Piet might even be done by then
(but I wouldn't count on it). FYI - I'm doing a Corvair engine.
Cheers
Jon Apfelbaum
In a message dated 7/15/2011 11:10:05 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net writes:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jack Phillips"
>
> The short answer is that it depends on the engine and the propeller.
> Longmont is not actually in the mountains, being about 20 miles east
of
> Boulder, as I recall. Still, field elevation there will be about
5,000'.
> If it were me, I'd put an O-200 Continental on it and stop worrying.
>
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP=EF=BD "Icarus Plummet"
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> freerangequark
> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 12:48 PM
> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Colorado Pietenpols
>
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "freerangequark"
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I didn't want to hijack the High Altitude Pietenpol thread and
decided to
> start my own.
>
> I currently live in the Chicago are and am considering starting a
> Pietenpol/Corvair project.
>
> There is a possibility that within the next couple of years I will be
moving
> to Longmont, Colorado.
>
> How well will the Pietenpol perform as a two place airplane flying in
the
> Longmont, Colorado area?
>
> Thanks
> -Glenn
>
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| Subject: | Re: Colorado Pietenpols |
| From: | Ken Bickers <bickers.ken(at)gmail.com> |
Glenn,
I live in Longmont; work in Boulder. Most of the Pietenpol builders
around here are going with engines that put out more power than the
small Continentals and Model A's provide.
I'm in the process of building up a Corvair, which seems to be fairly
popular among the small group of us in the area with Pietenpol
projects.
As you may know, Dangerous Dave put a Lycoming O-235 on the front of
his Piet. He's flying out of Platte Valley, which is just a smidge
lower than Longmont.
Jack Greiner has just finished his Piet. He's got a Continental on
the front of his. My recollection, which may be incorrect, is that
he's using the O-200.
Altitude, including density altitude, are always concerns. I don't
know how often I'll realistically be able to take a passenger up in my
Piet. My Pacer, which has the 150 horse, Lycoming O-320, is at best a
three-place airplane and more typically a two-place this time of year.
Still, as many on the list have noted, Pietenpols, regardless of
altitude, seem to be able to carry passengers if the passengers are
young, attractive, and female.
Let me know if you are in the area. I'll be happy to let you look at
my project. You can even sit in it and make engine noises.
Cheers, Ken
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 11:29 AM, wrote:
> Hi Glenn,
>
> As Jack said - depends on engine. I fly out of Front Range- on the plains
> near DIA. Figure starting at 5,500 at Longmont plus density altitude.
>
> Let me know if you are coming out - my Piet might even be done by then (but
> I wouldn't count on it). FYI - I'm doing a Corvair engine.
>
>
> Cheers
> Jon Apfelbaum
>
>
> In a message dated 7/15/2011 11:10:05 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
> pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net writes:
>
>
>
> The short answer is that it depends on the engine and the propeller.
> Longmont is not actually in the mountains, being about 20 miles east of
> Boulder, as I recall. Still, field elevation there will be about 5,000'.
> If it were me, I'd put an O-200 Continental on it and stop worrying.
>
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> freerangequark
> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 12:48 PM
> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Colorado Pietenpols
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I didn't want to hijack the High Altitude Pietenpol thread and decided to
> start my own.
>
> I currently live in the Chicago are and am considering starting a
> Pietenpol/Corvair project.
>
> There is a possibility that within the next couple of years I will be moving
> to Longmont, Colorado.
>
> How well will the Pietenpol perform as a two place airplane flying in the
> Longmont, Colorado area?
>
> Thanks
> -Glenn
>
> --------
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> consider the environment and recycle this data after use.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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>
>
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| From: | Jim Boyer <boyerjrb(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: New to the list, Illinois. |
John I think the batteries on your light saber need charging!
Jim B.
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| From: | John Hofmann <jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com> |
| Subject: | Hello Good People! |
You asked for it and you got it! Shirts and stuff are available here:
http://www.cafepress.com/half_fast
Don't come to the big dance naked! Share this link with your loved ones
and never have to wear non-Pietenpol approved clothes again.
I have done some revisions and a couple of new designs that you may have
seen me most images of but quickly:
The Crank Snapping Corvair Society is represented
I have updated the 2009 "Smell My Dairy Air" shirts to 2011 with better
graphics
I added the Travel By Pietenpol line
The 2010 Brathead design has been updated to "never disconcert the
masses." Remember this one is supposed to look "weathered."
Let me know if there is anything else you would like to see that is
missing or ideas for something new. My goal is to try to keep this site
fresh with Pietenpol, old air racing and antique aviation themed
products in general.
I am really looking forward to next week. It could be a real blast.
Forecast for this area is to be in the mid-90s but dry through the end
of next week. Given the cold and rain we had the last couple of years,
I'll take it.
-john-
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com
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| From: | Ben Charvet <bencharvet(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Hello Good People! |
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| From: | John Hofmann <jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Hello Good People! |
This wonky sentence below should read:
I have done some revisions and a couple of new designs that you may have
seen, but quickly:
Also, there are no pocket T-shirts available on CafePress. I need to nip
that one in the bud right now.
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com
On Jul 15, 2011, at 2:07 PM, John Hofmann wrote:
> I have done some revisions and a couple of new designs that you may
have seen me most images of but quickly:
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| Subject: | Re: New to the list, Illinois. |
| From: | "K5YAC" <hangar10(at)cox.net> |
The batteries are fresh in this one... that grass needed mowing.
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| From: | "Charles Campbell" <cncampbell(at)windstream.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Ride swapping at Brodhead |
Terry, yes, she's the one. I didn't think anyone else would know. C
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From: "jarheadpilot82" <jarheadpilot82(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 7:25 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Ride swapping at Brodhead
>
>
> Chuck,
>
> Th original "It Girl" was Clara Bow, the movie actress of the 20' and
> 30's. Is that the It girl to whom you are referring?
>
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> Semper Fi,
>
> Terry Hand
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| Subject: | Re: Hello Good People! |
| From: | "Don Emch" <EmchAir(at)aol.com> |
Holy Cow John! You make me want to spend next weeks paycheck on the Half fast
Aviation Co.! Very nice merchandise.
Don Emch
NX899DE
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| From: | John Hofmann <jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Hello Good People! |
Thanks Don,
There are a ton of aviation related T-shirts out there and I find most
of them to be bad. So I decided a few years ago to do stuff that I like.
CafePress can be a bit high priced but their quality is good and I don't
have to personally stock 2000 mediums and smalls I would never sell.
Plus. some of the clocks and shirts for dogs are kinda neat. See you
next week.
-john-
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com
On Jul 15, 2011, at 3:50 PM, Don Emch wrote:
>
> Holy Cow John! You make me want to spend next weeks paycheck on the
Half fast Aviation Co.! Very nice merchandise.
>
> Don Emch
> NX899DE
>
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| Subject: | Re: New to the list, Illinois. |
| From: | "K5YAC" <hangar10(at)cox.net> |
I knew I wasn't the only one who was bored on the Friday before Holy Week.
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| Subject: | Re: Colorado Pietenpols |
| From: | Ken Bickers <bickers.ken(at)gmail.com> |
A correction to my earlier message. Jack Greiner's newly finished Piet
apparently is being motivated by an A-65 that has been set up to
produce 75 hp (at sea level).
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Ken Bickers wrote:
> Glenn,
>
> I live in Longmont; work in Boulder. Most of the Pietenpol builders
> around here are going with engines that put out more power than the
> small Continentals and Model A's provide.
>
> I'm in the process of building up a Corvair, which seems to be fairly
> popular among the small group of us in the area with Pietenpol
> projects.
>
> As you may know, Dangerous Dave put a Lycoming O-235 on the front of
> his Piet. He's flying out of Platte Valley, which is just a smidge
> lower than Longmont.
>
> Jack Greiner has just finished his Piet. He's got a Continental on
> the front of his. My recollection, which may be incorrect, is that
> he's using the O-200.
>
> Altitude, including density altitude, are always concerns. I don't
> know how often I'll realistically be able to take a passenger up in my
> Piet. My Pacer, which has the 150 horse, Lycoming O-320, is at best a
> three-place airplane and more typically a two-place this time of year.
> Still, as many on the list have noted, Pietenpols, regardless of
> altitude, seem to be able to carry passengers if the passengers are
> young, attractive, and female.
>
> Let me know if you are in the area. I'll be happy to let you look at
> my project. You can even sit in it and make engine noises.
>
> Cheers, Ken
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 11:29 AM, wrote:
>> Hi Glenn,
>>
>> As Jack said - depends on engine. I fly out of Front Range- on the plains
>> near DIA. Figure starting at 5,500 at Longmont plus density altitude.
>>
>> Let me know if you are coming out - my Piet might even be done by then (but
>> I wouldn't count on it). FYI - I'm doing a Corvair engine.
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>> Jon Apfelbaum
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 7/15/2011 11:10:05 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
>> pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net writes:
>>
>>
>>
>> The short answer is that it depends on the engine and the propeller.
>> Longmont is not actually in the mountains, being about 20 miles east of
>> Boulder, as I recall. Still, field elevation there will be about 5,000'.
>> If it were me, I'd put an O-200 Continental on it and stop worrying.
>>
>> Jack Phillips
>> NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
>> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
>> freerangequark
>> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 12:48 PM
>> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Colorado Pietenpols
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I didn't want to hijack the High Altitude Pietenpol thread and decided to
>> start my own.
>>
>> I currently live in the Chicago are and am considering starting a
>> Pietenpol/Corvair project.
>>
>> There is a possibility that within the next couple of years I will be moving
>> to Longmont, Colorado.
>>
>> How well will the Pietenpol perform as a two place airplane flying in the
>> Longmont, Colorado area?
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Glenn
>>
>> --------
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>> consider the environment and recycle this data after use.
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>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Colorado Pietenpols |
| From: | mark lee <mlmarkelee7(at)gmail.com> |
Is there any idea of its service ceiling etc yet?
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Ken Bickers wrote:
>
> A correction to my earlier message. Jack Greiner's newly finished Piet
> apparently is being motivated by an A-65 that has been set up to
> produce 75 hp (at sea level).
>
> On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Ken Bickers
> wrote:
> > Glenn,
> >
> > I live in Longmont; work in Boulder. Most of the Pietenpol builders
> > around here are going with engines that put out more power than the
> > small Continentals and Model A's provide.
> >
> > I'm in the process of building up a Corvair, which seems to be fairly
> > popular among the small group of us in the area with Pietenpol
> > projects.
> >
> > As you may know, Dangerous Dave put a Lycoming O-235 on the front of
> > his Piet. He's flying out of Platte Valley, which is just a smidge
> > lower than Longmont.
> >
> > Jack Greiner has just finished his Piet. He's got a Continental on
> > the front of his. My recollection, which may be incorrect, is that
> > he's using the O-200.
> >
> > Altitude, including density altitude, are always concerns. I don't
> > know how often I'll realistically be able to take a passenger up in my
> > Piet. My Pacer, which has the 150 horse, Lycoming O-320, is at best a
> > three-place airplane and more typically a two-place this time of year.
> > Still, as many on the list have noted, Pietenpols, regardless of
> > altitude, seem to be able to carry passengers if the passengers are
> > young, attractive, and female.
> >
> > Let me know if you are in the area. I'll be happy to let you look at
> > my project. You can even sit in it and make engine noises.
> >
> > Cheers, Ken
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 11:29 AM, wrote:
> >> Hi Glenn,
> >>
> >> As Jack said - depends on engine. I fly out of Front Range- on the
> plains
> >> near DIA. Figure starting at 5,500 at Longmont plus density altitude.
> >>
> >> Let me know if you are coming out - my Piet might even be done by then
> (but
> >> I wouldn't count on it). FYI - I'm doing a Corvair engine.
> >>
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >> Jon Apfelbaum
> >>
> >>
> >> In a message dated 7/15/2011 11:10:05 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
> >> pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net writes:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The short answer is that it depends on the engine and the propeller.
> >> Longmont is not actually in the mountains, being about 20 miles east of
> >> Boulder, as I recall. Still, field elevation there will be about
> 5,000'.
> >> If it were me, I'd put an O-200 Continental on it and stop worrying.
> >>
> >> Jack Phillips
> >> NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
> >> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
> >> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> >> freerangequark
> >> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 12:48 PM
> >> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
> >> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Colorado Pietenpols
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I didn't want to hijack the High Altitude Pietenpol thread and decided
> to
> >> start my own.
> >>
> >> I currently live in the Chicago are and am considering starting a
> >> Pietenpol/Corvair project.
> >>
> >> There is a possibility that within the next couple of years I will be
> moving
> >> to Longmont, Colorado.
> >>
> >> How well will the Pietenpol perform as a two place airplane flying in
> the
> >> Longmont, Colorado area?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> -Glenn
> >>
> >> --------
> >> This e-mail was written using 100% post-consumer recycled data. Please
> >> consider the environment and recycle this data after use.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Read this topic online here:
> >>
> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346530#346530
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Colorado Pietenpols |
| From: | Ken Bickers <bickers.ken(at)gmail.com> |
Mark, I saw Jack a week ago Saturday at an airport event in Longmont.
At that time, he didn't mention a service ceiling. The Piet sure
looked great flying and made a wonderfully pre-WWII sound in the
pattern. He's planning to fly to Brodhead (depending on weather and
some medical issues). So that may be an opportunity for lots of
questions about the performance of his Piet. It is sort of a modified
GN-1/Piet. The wing is pure Piet. Some of the fuselage is based on
the GN-1. Cheers, Ken
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 6:25 PM, mark lee wrote:
> Is there any idea of its service ceiling etc yet?
>
> On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Ken Bickers wrote:
>>
>>
>> A correction to my earlier message. Jack Greiner's newly finished Piet
>> apparently is being motivated by an A-65 that has been set up to
>> produce 75 hp (at sea level).
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Ken Bickers
>> wrote:
>> > Glenn,
>> >
>> > I live in Longmont; work in Boulder. Most of the Pietenpol builders
>> > around here are going with engines that put out more power than the
>> > small Continentals and Model A's provide.
>> >
>> > I'm in the process of building up a Corvair, which seems to be fairly
>> > popular among the small group of us in the area with Pietenpol
>> > projects.
>> >
>> > As you may know, Dangerous Dave put a Lycoming O-235 on the front of
>> > his Piet. He's flying out of Platte Valley, which is just a smidge
>> > lower than Longmont.
>> >
>> > Jack Greiner has just finished his Piet. He's got a Continental on
>> > the front of his. My recollection, which may be incorrect, is that
>> > he's using the O-200.
>> >
>> > Altitude, including density altitude, are always concerns. I don't
>> > know how often I'll realistically be able to take a passenger up in my
>> > Piet. My Pacer, which has the 150 horse, Lycoming O-320, is at best a
>> > three-place airplane and more typically a two-place this time of year.
>> > Still, as many on the list have noted, Pietenpols, regardless of
>> > altitude, seem to be able to carry passengers if the passengers are
>> > young, attractive, and female.
>> >
>> > Let me know if you are in the area. I'll be happy to let you look at
>> > my project. You can even sit in it and make engine noises.
>> >
>> > Cheers, Ken
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 11:29 AM, wrote:
>> >> Hi Glenn,
>> >>
>> >> As Jack said - depends on engine. I fly out of Front Range- on the
>> >> plains
>> >> near DIA. Figure starting at 5,500 at Longmont plus density altitude.
>> >>
>> >> Let me know if you are coming out - my Piet might even be done by then
>> >> (but
>> >> I wouldn't count on it). FYI - I'm doing a Corvair engine.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Cheers
>> >> Jon Apfelbaum
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> In a message dated 7/15/2011 11:10:05 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
>> >> pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net writes:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> The short answer is that it depends on the engine and the propeller.
>> >> Longmont is not actually in the mountains, being about 20 miles east of
>> >> Boulder, as I recall. Still, field elevation there will be about
>> >> 5,000'.
>> >> If it were me, I'd put an O-200 Continental on it and stop worrying.
>> >>
>> >> Jack Phillips
>> >> NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
>> >> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
>> >> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
>> >> freerangequark
>> >> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 12:48 PM
>> >> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
>> >> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Colorado Pietenpols
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> I didn't want to hijack the High Altitude Pietenpol thread and decided
>> >> to
>> >> start my own.
>> >>
>> >> I currently live in the Chicago are and am considering starting a
>> >> Pietenpol/Corvair project.
>> >>
>> >> There is a possibility that within the next couple of years I will be
>> >> moving
>> >> to Longmont, Colorado.
>> >>
>> >> How well will the Pietenpol perform as a two place airplane flying in
>> >> the
>> >> Longmont, Colorado area?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >> -Glenn
>> >>
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| Subject: | Re: Introductions |
| From: | "Ken_P" <ken.potts1(at)gmail.com> |
Hey Jack P - I've been wanting to get myself a CS(squared) t-shirt for a while
now. If you see any for sale at Brodhead, could you get me one (large)? Of course,
if you go through all that trouble, I'll be happy to buy one for you, too...
If you don't already have one, that is. I'll pick it up at the August 1114
meeting.
Ken P
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| Subject: | Its official! My Pietenpol virginity was taken today! |
| From: | "bubbleboy" <scott.dawson3(at)bigpond.com> |
Today I was lucky enough to have my first ride in a Pietenpol Air Camper. A fellow
Piet owner about 4 hours from me invited me down for a flight and to discuss
what things he would change if building one from scratch.
This Piet is powered with a Subaru EA81 with a belt driven reduction unit. The
controls were really quite sensitive but nice to fly. He has tape along the aileron
hinge line.
He is very happy with the landing gear which is apparently straight off a Piper
Colt. I eyeballed it and the axle line appears to be straight under the leading
edge of the wing. He stated the seat on this one was built straight up and
down and becomes very uncomfortable on a longer jaunt. He has entry doors to both
pilot and passenger sections and I admit it was reasonably easy to get in
and out and would have been a challenge with out them. Anyone have a sketch or
suggestions on how to add doors?
Something he mentioned was the engine had no offset which is why he thinks to fly
in balance, he needed to make a large deflection of the rudder trim tab. Its
very noticeable when standing behind it. What do folk do about building in some
side and down thrust? Mine being a Corvair swinging the prop in the other
direction, will I need left offset rather than the usual right?
We went for an hours flight and did the beaches at 500 feet and climbed higher
and did steep turns and he demonstrated the stall. It was very benign with a slight
shudder and the right wing drops. It doesnt drop abruptly but definitely
drops.
The experience was fantastic albiet a little cold on my face but what a thrill!
It gives me greater inspiration to get mine finished now. Overall for a home
built I was very impressed. It was great to be able to discuss what modifications
he thought would make a more user friendly plane...
Scotty
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Scotty
Tamworth, Australia
Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
www.scottyspietenpol.com
Rudder, Vert stab, Elevators and Ribs built...Building Horizontal stab...
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| From: | "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Introductions |
I'll see what I can do, Ken. Or you can order it yourself from:
http://www.cafepress.com/half_fast
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ken_P
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 2:45 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Introductions
Hey Jack P - I've been wanting to get myself a CS(squared) t-shirt for a
while now. If you see any for sale at Brodhead, could you get me one
(large)? Of course, if you go through all that trouble, I'll be happy to buy
one for you, too... If you don't already have one, that is. I'll pick it
up at the August 1114 meeting.
Ken P
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| Subject: | Re: Colorado Pietenpols |
| From: | "Dangerous Dave" <dsornbor(at)aol.com> |
As previously stated by Ken,I have an O 235 putting out 125 @sea level.
At 78 F density altitude of 8000' I am off in 650-800' at 1175lbs.Can get up to
14,000' on a cool morning.I wouldn't have a smaller engine on a bet unless you
just want to fly in the winter and fly east to cranksnappin country.dave
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| From: | "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | anybody near OK City? |
Hey all,
I'm leaving Sunday night for Oklahoma City (Norman actually, just south)
where I'll be working for about three weeks.
Wanted to see if anybody is building or flying around that area who is up
for a visit.
Douwe
805 573 3564
douweblumberg(at)earthlink.net
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| From: | "Gboothe5" <gboothe5(at)comcast.net> |
All,
Last night's intended engine run never actually happened.but I wouldn't
describe it as a 'bust.' Several very good things happened, and, after all,
this has been a learning process all the way through.
I was very fortunate to have quality people at my side: Jim Markle, Mike
Weaver, Chris Tracy.just to name a few. As he says, Jim "grew up on a farm,"
and guys like that know stuff. Mike Weaver is an electronics guru, and Chris
Tracy.well he provided incentive. I think there is truth to the rumor that
Jack Phillips offered Chris $100 to throw a monkey wrench in the works,
'cause I am SURE I had everything wired up right.and I did see Chris' hands
in the compartment at one time.
Anyhow, we determined that I had made a basic error, that may have fried my
condensers, and we simply ran out of time. I'm disappointed for Markle to
have put so much effort into seeing the Beast come to life, and for Chris,
too, who really did want to hear a Corvair; but I came out on top! Not only
did I learn some stuff about electronics, how distributors work, etc., Mike
Weaver brought a friend, a workmate, a fellow pilot...who owns a large
hanger!!! Do you know how HUGE that is here in California!! We struck a good
relationship right off, and I am now assured a home for my Pietenpol! If
nothing else came out of the day than that.I am a Winner!
Well, I'll try to make some progress on the engine run, but Brodhead is just
around the corner and I am reminded that I have some other obligations.
See all y'all in Brodhead,
Gary
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| From: | "echobravo4" <eab4(at)comcast.net> |
OK, i know everybody is packing and dreaming of beets and fumunda around
a crackling fire, but, i'm stuck here in PA "having" to work on my Piet!
i was wondering if anybody had used the caulking tube T-88 with the
mixing tube? it seems like a good idea for mixing large quantities of
glue, like gluing on the ply sides and bottom to the fuse.
Thanks, and everybody have fun!
hopefully will get out there next year
Earl
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Earl Brown
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I
intended to be.
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| Subject: | Re: anybody near OK City? |
| From: | jim_markle(at)mindspring.com |
I'm just an hour (well, maybe a bit more) NE of OKC so please stop by if you can
while in the area....plenty of room if you want to come up over the weekend
and hang out.
JM
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From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg(at)earthlink.net>
Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 09:53:19
Subject: Pietenpol-List: anybody near OK City?
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| From: | "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | anybody near OK City? |
Douwe,
Does this mean you won't be at Brodhead?
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Douwe
Blumberg
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 9:53 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: anybody near OK City?
Hey all,
I'm leaving Sunday night for Oklahoma City (Norman actually, just south)
where I'll be working for about three weeks.
Wanted to see if anybody is building or flying around that area who is up
for a visit.
Douwe
805 573 3564
douweblumberg(at)earthlink.net
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| From: | "Bill Church" <billspiet(at)sympatico.ca> |
Well, that's too bad that you weren't able to get the beast to come to life on
schedule, but overall, it sounds like you really came out on top.
And in the whole story, there wasn't even one reference to "things" going missing,
following a visit. Remarkable restraint on your part, Gary (and relief on
the part of JM, I'm sure).
Bill C.
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| From: | "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net> |
I didn't pay Chris $100. He did it for $20
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gboothe5
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 10:36 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Engine Run
All,
Last night's intended engine run never actually happened.but I wouldn't
describe it as a 'bust.' Several very good things happened, and, after all,
this has been a learning process all the way through.
I was very fortunate to have quality people at my side: Jim Markle, Mike
Weaver, Chris Tracy.just to name a few. As he says, Jim "grew up on a farm,"
and guys like that know stuff. Mike Weaver is an electronics guru, and Chris
Tracy.well he provided incentive. I think there is truth to the rumor that
Jack Phillips offered Chris $100 to throw a monkey wrench in the works,
'cause I am SURE I had everything wired up right.and I did see Chris' hands
in the compartment at one time.
Anyhow, we determined that I had made a basic error, that may have fried my
condensers, and we simply ran out of time. I'm disappointed for Markle to
have put so much effort into seeing the Beast come to life, and for Chris,
too, who really did want to hear a Corvair; but I came out on top! Not only
did I learn some stuff about electronics, how distributors work, etc., Mike
Weaver brought a friend, a workmate, a fellow pilot...who owns a large
hanger!!! Do you know how HUGE that is here in California!! We struck a good
relationship right off, and I am now assured a home for my Pietenpol! If
nothing else came out of the day than that.I am a Winner!
Well, I'll try to make some progress on the engine run, but Brodhead is just
around the corner and I am reminded that I have some other obligations.
See all y'all in Brodhead,
Gary
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| From: | "Pieti Lowell" <Lowellcfrank(at)yahoo.com> |
Did you check Jim's big pockets ? for cookies etc.
Pieti Lowell
Don't archive.
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| From: | "K5YAC" <hangar10(at)cox.net> |
If it isn't too embarrassing, could you elaborate on this comment when you get
time?
> Anyhow, we determined that I had made a basic error, that may have fried my condensers,
and we simply ran out of time.
What mistake? How is it to be corrected?
Perhaps you could just describe it over a cold one at Brodhead? I am an electronics
guy, but I didn't grow up on a farm OR sleep at a Holiday Inn Express, so
I would just like to learn more about what NOT to do.
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Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
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| From: | "K5YAC" <hangar10(at)cox.net> |
I have no idea why my text is in BOLD after the quote... didn't mean for it to
be that way, that's just the way it appears every time I post a quote.
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| From: | "Gboothe5" <gboothe5(at)comcast.net> |
Mark,
For the price of a beet, I will gladly spill the beans...
But, for now, suffice it to say that the condensers connect to the NEG side
of the coils, NOT the POS side! :-O What's the fix? New condensers and move
the wires to the right side...
Gary
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of K5YAC
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 9:40 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Engine Run
If it isn't too embarrassing, could you elaborate on this comment when you
get time?
> Anyhow, we determined that I had made a basic error, that may have fried
my condensers, and we simply ran out of time.
What mistake? How is it to be corrected?
Perhaps you could just describe it over a cold one at Brodhead? I am an
electronics guy, but I didn't grow up on a farm OR sleep at a Holiday Inn
Express, so I would just like to learn more about what NOT to do.
--------
Mark Chouinard
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| From: | "Gboothe5" <gboothe5(at)comcast.net> |
Having had the opportunity to enjoy Jim's company several times, I have
devised a system to preserve the sanctity of my tools...I'm sure JM's
working on counter-measures...
Gary
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Church
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 9:04 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Engine Run
Well, that's too bad that you weren't able to get the beast to come to life
on schedule, but overall, it sounds like you really came out on top.
And in the whole story, there wasn't even one reference to "things" going
missing, following a visit. Remarkable restraint on your part, Gary (and
relief on the part of JM, I'm sure).
Bill C.
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| From: | "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee(at)us.army.mil> |
Hi Earl - I started off with the caulking gun style and very quickly went to the
small plastic graduated mixing cups. I personally would not bother with the
caulking gun. When you have a big job you just mix a couple of cups. The stuff
takes forever to set up so there's no rush.
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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| From: | "K5YAC" <hangar10(at)cox.net> |
gboothe5(at)comcast.net wrote:
> and took every opportunity to say, I knew it wouldnt start!
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Mark Chouinard
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| Subject: | Re: Introductions |
| From: | "Billy McCaskill" <billmz(at)cox.net> |
Since the topic has drifted from introductions to engine choices, for whatever
it might be worth, I witnessed a homebuilt aircraft crash just after takeoff this
afternoon, and it was powered by--- wait for it--- a Continental C-65. So
the idea that "real" aircraft engines are somehow better/safer/more reliable
than converted auto engines doesn't hold a lot of water with me right now. "Real"
airplane can engines fail too....
The plane was a Zenith CH-601 (or 701, not sure), was losing power and didn't sound
right. It was mushing along about 30 to 40 degrees nose-high, and steadily
losing altitude. When the pilot realized he wasn't going to clear the house
and trees across the street from the end of the runway, he switched off the
mags and intentionally pancaked it, nose first, into the grass at the end of the
end of the runway from about 40-50' AGL. He was less than 100 feet from crossing
the fence at the north end of the field. The pilot and passenger were
able to walk away, but taken by ambulance to the local hospital to be checked
out. It will be a LONG time before that plane flies again, if ever.
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Billy McCaskill
Urbana, IL
tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon
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| From: | "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Introductions |
Well, which was it? The 601 is designed for 65 - 115 hp and is a nice
looking airplane. The 701 is designed for 80 - 120 hp and looks like the
box a Sonex came in. If it was a 701 it would be pretty underpowered with
an A65 in it.
Sounds like the engine was making power, just not enough of it. A lot of
questions need to be answered before you go and blame the engine.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
Very Defensive of his Continentals
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Billy
McCaskill
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 6:28 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Introductions
Since the topic has drifted from introductions to engine choices, for
whatever it might be worth, I witnessed a homebuilt aircraft crash just
after takeoff this afternoon, and it was powered by--- wait for it--- a
Continental C-65. So the idea that "real" aircraft engines are somehow
better/safer/more reliable than converted auto engines doesn't hold a lot of
water with me right now. "Real" airplane can engines fail too....
The plane was a Zenith CH-601 (or 701, not sure), was losing power and
didn't sound right. It was mushing along about 30 to 40 degrees nose-high,
and steadily losing altitude. When the pilot realized he wasn't going to
clear the house and trees across the street from the end of the runway, he
switched off the mags and intentionally pancaked it, nose first, into the
grass at the end of the end of the runway from about 40-50' AGL. He was
less than 100 feet from crossing the fence at the north end of the field.
The pilot and passenger were able to walk away, but taken by ambulance to
the local hospital to be checked out. It will be a LONG time before that
plane flies again, if ever.
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Billy McCaskill
Urbana, IL
tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon
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| Subject: | Re: Introductions |
| From: | "Billy McCaskill" <billmz(at)cox.net> |
Well, it wasn't the prettiest design I've ever seen, it was a side by side 2 place
high wing STOL design, and definitely C-65 powered. The pilot didn't seem
to be in the mood to answer a bunch of questions about which model of Zenith
it was when I and a bunch of other witnesses went to check on him and his passenger.
This plane had no problems climbing out on previous flights earlier in
the day while I was there, so I don't think it was underpowered with the C-65.
The engine definitely sounded not up to snuff, and was not running as it should
have been on that takeoff attempt. The runway there is paved, 3050 ft long,
and he taxied all the way to the south end of runway 36 to begin his takeoff
run, and never got over about 80 feet high. By the time he passed the hanger
I was standing in directly adjacent to the north end of the paved part of runway
36 he was at about 60 feet AGL, losing altitude and on the verge of stalling.
We all thought at first he was demonstrating the slow-flight characteristics
of the plane when we all realized the engine sounded sick and he was losing
altitude. Engine failed, plain and simple. End result- gravity 1, "real"
airplane engine 0.
In my opinion, the pilot probably should have aborted the takeoff a lot earlier
than he did, regardless of engine type, and try to figure out the problem on
the ground instead of substantially bending up his airplane. With over 3000'
of runway available, he had time to land a lot earlier than he did.
--------
Billy McCaskill
Urbana, IL
tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon
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| From: | Ben Charvet <bencharvet(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Met one of your old Brodhead friends today |
I ran into Alan Wise at a fly-in breakfast this morning. I hadn't seen
him in a few years but he looks good. He told me he made 3 trips from
Florida to Brodhead when he had his Pietenpol. I guess if he can do it,
I should try for next year. The wife has offered to drive a chase
vehicle. You guys think of me while consuming brats and beets.
Ben Charvet
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| From: | "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Introductions |
Definitely sounds like a 701 (the 601 is low wing), and the 701 is designed
to have a Rotax 912 engine of 80 hp so it would be considerably underpowered
with an A65 (there is no C-65). If the builder put the wrong engine in it,
who's to say how well he prepared that engine. Continentals are reliable,
but they can be screwed up just as well as any other engine by poor
maintenance or a plugged vent in a fuel system or anything else. I wouldn't
jump to conclusions yet until the NTSB figures out the cause of the
accident.
A true engine failure (such as a broken crankshaft) would typically cause
the engine to quit completely. Of course it could be a stuck valve, which
would cause a loss of power, but with that much runway he should have
realized the loss of power and aborted the takeoff.
Continentals can and will fail for various reasons, but overall they are
very reliable engines.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Billy
McCaskill
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 8:02 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Introductions
Well, it wasn't the prettiest design I've ever seen, it was a side by side 2
place high wing STOL design, and definitely C-65 powered. The pilot didn't
seem to be in the mood to answer a bunch of questions about which model of
Zenith it was when I and a bunch of other witnesses went to check on him and
his passenger. This plane had no problems climbing out on previous flights
earlier in the day while I was there, so I don't think it was underpowered
with the C-65. The engine definitely sounded not up to snuff, and was not
running as it should have been on that takeoff attempt. The runway there is
paved, 3050 ft long, and he taxied all the way to the south end of runway 36
to begin his takeoff run, and never got over about 80 feet high. By the
time he passed the hanger I was standing in directly adjacent to the north
end of the paved part of runway 36 he was at about 60 feet AGL, losing
altitude and on the verge of stalling. We all thought at first he was
demonstrating !
the slow-flight characteristics of the plane when we all realized the
engine sounded sick and he was losing altitude. Engine failed, plain and
simple. End result- gravity 1, "real" airplane engine 0.
In my opinion, the pilot probably should have aborted the takeoff a lot
earlier than he did, regardless of engine type, and try to figure out the
problem on the ground instead of substantially bending up his airplane.
With over 3000' of runway available, he had time to land a lot earlier than
he did.
--------
Billy McCaskill
Urbana, IL
tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346698#346698
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| From: | "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Met one of your old Brodhead friends today |
Still time to do it this year, Ben. Come on up to Virginia and fly with
Matt Paxton and me. We're planning to leave Tuesday morning and arrive by
early afternoon Wednesday in Brodhead.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ben Charvet
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 8:06 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Met one of your old Brodhead friends today
I ran into Alan Wise at a fly-in breakfast this morning. I hadn't seen
him in a few years but he looks good. He told me he made 3 trips from
Florida to Brodhead when he had his Pietenpol. I guess if he can do it,
I should try for next year. The wife has offered to drive a chase
vehicle. You guys think of me while consuming brats and beets.
Ben Charvet
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Dick Navratil" <horzpool(at)goldengate.net> |
Hey all
I just got home frme OSH and Brodhead. Anybody know who dropped off 2
sets of wing ribs and tail section at the hangar? They all look real
nice. Also there were a lot of guys working at Brodhead today, Mowing
washing and doing lots of cleaning. It was very impressive. Oh, I
delivered the fuselage there today also.
Dick N.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net> |
Which Pietenpol are your bringing this year, Dick?
Jack Phillips
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dick
Navratil
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 9:11 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead
Hey all
I just got home frme OSH and Brodhead. Anybody know who dropped off 2 sets
of wing ribs and tail section at the hangar? They all look real nice. Also
there were a lot of guys working at Brodhead today, Mowing washing and doing
lots of cleaning. It was very impressive. Oh, I delivered the fuselage
there today also.
Dick N.
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| Subject: | Re: Introductions |
| From: | "Billy McCaskill" <billmz(at)cox.net> |
You are correct, it was an A-65 and not a C-65, that was a typo on my part. But
whatever the case, this pilot's day didn't end well when he made the decision
to try to continue the flight with a faltering engine. You pay your money and
take your chances, whatever engine you choose. I only make the point that
Continental engines can fail just like any other engine, or mechanical device
in general, no matter how staunchly defended they might be. But hey, at least
his crank didn't snap before the ground rose up rapidly to meet him...
--------
Billy McCaskill
Urbana, IL
tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon
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| Subject: | Re: Introductions |
| From: | mark lee <mlmarkelee7(at)gmail.com> |
This sort of thing happens.I've been there when no one walked away.It takes
awhile for your nerves to settle after you have witnessed something like
that.I hope that hang gliding etc helps me not to depend to much on any
engine.Who knows why he didn't put it down if he had the room.I'd bet that
the cause of the problem could happen to any engine.Pilots teasing each
other probably started with the Wright bothers giving each other a hard
time.If someone wires a Yugo on a plane then we really will have reason to
object.Now it will be just my luck to have a Yugo engine turn out to be
wonderful.
On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Jack Phillips wrote:
> pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net>
>
> Definitely sounds like a 701 (the 601 is low wing), and the 701 is designed
> to have a Rotax 912 engine of 80 hp so it would be considerably
> underpowered
> with an A65 (there is no C-65). If the builder put the wrong engine in it,
> who's to say how well he prepared that engine. Continentals are reliable,
> but they can be screwed up just as well as any other engine by poor
> maintenance or a plugged vent in a fuel system or anything else. I
> wouldn't
> jump to conclusions yet until the NTSB figures out the cause of the
> accident.
>
> A true engine failure (such as a broken crankshaft) would typically cause
> the engine to quit completely. Of course it could be a stuck valve, which
> would cause a loss of power, but with that much runway he should have
> realized the loss of power and aborted the takeoff.
>
> Continentals can and will fail for various reasons, but overall they are
> very reliable engines.
>
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Billy
> McCaskill
> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 8:02 PM
> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Introductions
>
>
> Well, it wasn't the prettiest design I've ever seen, it was a side by side
> 2
> place high wing STOL design, and definitely C-65 powered. The pilot didn't
> seem to be in the mood to answer a bunch of questions about which model of
> Zenith it was when I and a bunch of other witnesses went to check on him
> and
> his passenger. This plane had no problems climbing out on previous flights
> earlier in the day while I was there, so I don't think it was underpowered
> with the C-65. The engine definitely sounded not up to snuff, and was not
> running as it should have been on that takeoff attempt. The runway there
> is
> paved, 3050 ft long, and he taxied all the way to the south end of runway
> 36
> to begin his takeoff run, and never got over about 80 feet high. By the
> time he passed the hanger I was standing in directly adjacent to the north
> end of the paved part of runway 36 he was at about 60 feet AGL, losing
> altitude and on the verge of stalling. We all thought at first he was
> demonstrating !
> the slow-flight characteristics of the plane when we all realized the
> engine sounded sick and he was losing altitude. Engine failed, plain and
> simple. End result- gravity 1, "real" airplane engine 0.
>
> In my opinion, the pilot probably should have aborted the takeoff a lot
> earlier than he did, regardless of engine type, and try to figure out the
> problem on the ground instead of substantially bending up his airplane.
> With over 3000' of runway available, he had time to land a lot earlier than
> he did.
>
> --------
> Billy McCaskill
> Urbana, IL
> tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346698#346698
>
>
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| From: | "Dick Navratil" <horzpool(at)goldengate.net> |
Hey Jack, hopefully both of them. I have a friend flying the A-65 down,
which is for sale at this point, and I am going up to OSH and will be in
the Rotec booth all week.
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack Phillips
To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 8:16 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead
Which Pietenpol are your bringing this year, Dick?
Jack Phillips
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-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dick
Navratil
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 9:11 PM
To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead
Hey all
I just got home frme OSH and Brodhead. Anybody know who dropped off 2
sets of wing ribs and tail section at the hangar? They all look real
nice. Also there were a lot of guys working at Brodhead today, Mowing
washing and doing lots of cleaning. It was very impressive. Oh, I
delivered the fuselage there today also.
Dick N.
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhttp://forums.matronics.
comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution
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| Subject: | Re: anybody near OK City? |
| From: | "K5YAC" <hangar10(at)cox.net> |
Half a beer... ha! Yep, that's true. We'll make due with whatever we've got.
Thanks for reminding me that I need to get some beer for the hangar fridge.
:D
--------
Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
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| Subject: | Aussie Piet for sale |
| From: | "bubbleboy" <scott.dawson3(at)bigpond.com> |
Hi all.....just letting the group know and more particularly, any Aussie who may
be after a Pietenpol Air Camper. Andrew Carter has advertised his here.
www.pietenpol.com.au
Scotty
--------
Scotty
Tamworth, Australia
Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
www.scottyspietenpol.com
Rudder, Vert stab, Elevators and Ribs built...Building Horizontal stab...
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| Subject: | Raising the instrument panel? |
| From: | "bubbleboy" <scott.dawson3(at)bigpond.com> |
I know a few folk have raised the rear turtle deck a couple of inches but when
you do that, do you also add that on to the height of the instrument panels? I
had planed to do that as I was thinking that they were all the same height originally.
After going for a flight yesterday and having a good look at a Piet,
the rear turtle deck was lower than the instrument panel anyway.
Have I misunderstood it as raising it all an extra few inches or have folk just
been raising the rear turtle deck section? If that is the case I will need to
adjust my instrument placement.
Thank you for your help in advance.
Scotty :?
--------
Scotty
Tamworth, Australia
Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
www.scottyspietenpol.com
Rudder, Vert stab, Elevators and Ribs built...Building Horizontal stab...
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346743#346743
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| From: | "Peter W Johnson" <vk3eka(at)bigpond.net.au> |
| Subject: | Raising the instrument panel? |
Scotty,
I just raised the turtle deck to match the instrument panel.
Looked OK to me.
Cheers
Peter
Wonthaggi Australia
http://www.cpc-world.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of bubbleboy
Sent: Sunday, 17 July 2011 7:44 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Raising the instrument panel?
I know a few folk have raised the rear turtle deck a couple of inches but
when you do that, do you also add that on to the height of the instrument
panels? I had planed to do that as I was thinking that they were all the
same height originally. After going for a flight yesterday and having a good
look at a Piet, the rear turtle deck was lower than the instrument panel
anyway.
Have I misunderstood it as raising it all an extra few inches or have folk
just been raising the rear turtle deck section? If that is the case I will
need to adjust my instrument placement.
Thank you for your help in advance.
Scotty :?
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Scotty
Tamworth, Australia
Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
www.scottyspietenpol.com
Rudder, Vert stab, Elevators and Ribs built...Building Horizontal stab...
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346743#346743
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| Subject: | Re: Raising the instrument panel? |
| From: | "bubbleboy" <scott.dawson3(at)bigpond.com> |
Hi Peter...thanks mate! Although I was hoping you wernt going to say that. Have
to adjust my instrument placement again...lol
Scotty
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Scotty
Tamworth, Australia
Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
www.scottyspietenpol.com
Rudder, Vert stab, Elevators and Ribs built...Building Horizontal stab...
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| From: | JOSEPH SWITHIN <joeswithin(at)yahoo.com> |
Gary,=0ASorry to hear it did not work out. By the way, what do you serve wi
th fried condensers? I will have some chilled cylinders for you at Brodhead
to help ease the pain.-=0AA reminder for those making the Great Migratio
n, if you are passing through or experience a problem and you are near by,
give me ring. I will try to assist if possible.=0A=0AJoe Swithin=0AMorris,
IL rt80 & srt47=0Adiscovery stage. extended=0A
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| Subject: | Airspeed Indicators .... |
| From: | "womenfly2" <Love2Fly.KAP(at)gmail.com> |
If anyone is building their own Airspeed Indicator, I have the MPH label in Rub-on
Dry Transfers available.
See web site below.
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| From: | shad bell <aviatorbell(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Met one of your old Brodhead friends today |
Jack, I am still hoping to get out of here on wednesday and hopefully be ou
t by Lowell or joliet by Noon time (CDT).- Would love to meet up and fly
in to C37 as a formation.- If you can Just call me when you get to lowell
, and leave me a mesage if I am still airborne.
-
Shad 740-972-1531
--- On Sat, 7/16/11, Jack Phillips wrote:
From: Jack Phillips <pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Met one of your old Brodhead friends today
Date: Saturday, July 16, 2011, 9:05 PM
et>
Still time to do it this year, Ben.- Come on up to Virginia and fly with
Matt Paxton and me.- We're planning to leave Tuesday morning and arrive b
y
early afternoon Wednesday in Brodhead.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP- "Icarus Plummet"
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ben Charvet
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 8:06 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Met one of your old Brodhead friends today
I ran into Alan Wise at a fly-in breakfast this morning.- I hadn't seen
him in a few years but he looks good.- He told me he made 3 trips from
Florida to Brodhead when he had his Pietenpol.- I guess if he can do it,
I should try for next year.- The wife has offered to drive a chase
vehicle.- You guys think of me while consuming brats and beets.
Ben Charvet
le, List Admin.
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| Subject: | Re: Its official! My Pietenpol virginity was taken today! |
| From: | "xTrainwrecKx" <derek.brundage(at)gmail.com> |
Congrats Scotty! I can't wait to be able to do the same.
Very respectfully,
Derek
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| From: | "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Met one of your old Brodhead friends today |
Shad,
Matt and I are planning to leave Virginia early Tuesday morning and hope to
get to Marion IN by late afternoon. We'll give you a call Tuesday evening
to keep you appraised of our progress. Lowell will be out first fuel stop
on Wednesday, approximately 2 hours out of Marion, so we can plan our
departure to met you at Lowell. Don Emch, are you still planning to meet up
with us? We should be at Poplar Grove an hour and a half after leaving
Lowell. Dan Helsper, are you going to be ready to head for Brodhead by
early Wednesday afternoon? It'll be great to have a 5-ship formation come
in all at once.
Jack Phillips
(919) 427-4440
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of shad bell
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 10:31 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Met one of your old Brodhead friends today
Jack, I am still hoping to get out of here on wednesday and hopefully be out
by Lowell or joliet by Noon time (CDT). Would love to meet up and fly in to
C37 as a formation. If you can Just call me when you get to lowell, and
leave me a mesage if I am still airborne.
Shad 740-972-1531
--- On Sat, 7/16/11, Jack Phillips wrote:
From: Jack Phillips <pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Met one of your old Brodhead friends today
Date: Saturday, July 16, 2011, 9:05 PM
http://us.mc657.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=pietflyr@bellsouth.net> >
Still time to do it this year, Ben. Come on up to Virginia and fly with
Matt Paxton and me. We're planning to leave Tuesday morning and arrive by
early afternoon Wednesday in Brodhead.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
<http://us.mc657.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=owner-pietenpol-list-server@ma
tronics.com>
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
<http://us.mc657.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=owner-pietenpol-list-server@ma
tronics.com> ] On Behalf Of Ben Charvet
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 8:06 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Met one of your old Brodhead friends today
I ran into Alan Wise at a fly-in breakfast this morning. I hadn't seen
him in a few years but he looks good. He told me he made 3 trips from
Florida to Brodhead when he had his Pietenpol. I guess if he can do it,
I should try for next year. The wife has offered to drive a chase
vehicle. You guys think of me while consuming brats and beets.
B"http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List"
target=_blank>http://="http://forums.matronics.com/"
target=_blank>http://forums.matronics.c -Matt
Dralle, List m/contribution"
target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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| From: | Dan Yocum <yocum137(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Colorado Pietenpols |
I ran the Riblett and the FC-10 airfoils through X-Foil airfoil simulation s
oftware. I really, really need to find the time to do a better analysis, but
my preliminary findings are that the Riblett GA30-612 airfoil is a bit bett
er than the FC-10 by about 10%. That is, it will climb about 10% faster, an
d glide about 10% farther than the FC-10.
Other advantages - it's thicker so you can put a bigger center section fuel t
ank in there. It still looks like an FC-10 with the under camber.
Disadvantages - it's not a pure Pietenpol design and you will garner the der
ision of the purists.
The FC-10 is a fine airfoil, too. It cruises faster than a Cub's USA-35B.
Dan
--
Dan Yocum
yocum137(at)gmail.com
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
>
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| Subject: | Re: Colorado Pietenpols |
| From: | mark lee <mlmarkelee7(at)gmail.com> |
Glad you are looking into it.Is there any idea of how it will effect the
stall speed?Looks like some major performance gains to me.I'm sure that Mr
Pietenpol would have voted to keep the plane out of the rocks.He built what
he needed and I think we will have to do the same.I can live with some
derision as long as they can't follow me home.We are talking runways that
are higher than some service ceilings.This isn't going to be easy.
On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Dan Yocum wrote:
> I ran the Riblett and the FC-10 airfoils through X-Foil airfoil simulation
> software. I really, really need to find the time to do a better analysis,
> but my preliminary findings are that the Riblett GA30-612 airfoil is a bit
> better than the FC-10 by about 10%. That is, it will climb about 10%
> faster, and glide about 10% farther than the FC-10.
>
> Other advantages - it's thicker so you can put a bigger center section fuel
> tank in there. It still looks like an FC-10 with the under camber.
>
> Disadvantages - it's not a pure Pietenpol design and you will garner the
> derision of the purists.
>
> The FC-10 is a fine airfoil, too. It cruises faster than a Cub's USA-35B.
>
> Dan
>
> --
> Dan Yocum
> yocum137(at)gmail.com
> "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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| From: | Dan Yocum <yocum137(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Colorado Pietenpols |
What? You want to land slower than 35mph? It's hard to beat 35mph.
--
Dan Yocum
yocum137(at)gmail.com
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
On Jul 17, 2011, at 1:17 PM, mark lee wrote:
> Glad you are looking into it.Is there any idea of how it will effect the s
tall speed?Looks like some major performance gains to me.I'm sure that Mr Pi
etenpol would have voted to keep the plane out of the rocks.He built what he
needed and I think we will have to do the same.I can live with some derisio
n as long as they can't follow me home.We are talking runways that are highe
r than some service ceilings.This isn't going to be easy.
>
> On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Dan Yocum wrote:
> I ran the Riblett and the FC-10 airfoils through X-Foil airfoil simulation
software. I really, really need to find the time to do a better analysis, b
ut my preliminary findings are that the Riblett GA30-612 airfoil is a bit be
tter than the FC-10 by about 10%. That is, it will climb about 10% faster, a
nd glide about 10% farther than the FC-10.
>
> Other advantages - it's thicker so you can put a bigger center section fue
l tank in there. It still looks like an FC-10 with the under camber.
>
> Disadvantages - it's not a pure Pietenpol design and you will garner the d
erision of the purists.
>
> The FC-10 is a fine airfoil, too. It cruises faster than a Cub's USA-35B.
>
> Dan
>
> --
> Dan Yocum
> yocum137(at)gmail.com
> "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
>>
>
>
> " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
> tp://forums.matronics.com
> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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| From: | "Gboothe5" <gboothe5(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Engine Run Report |
All,
Trying to figure out some posting stuff on You-tube, but I do have a video.
With a clear head this morning, my son and I tackled the no-spark issue,
trying to run my Corvair on my airframe. Piet builder Jerry Dotson called me
this morning, as did Kevin Purtee last night, refreshing my view of the
problem. As these things usually go, the problem was simple.and ignorant.
After studying the wiring diagram, provided by Peter Johnson, for the 115th
time, I suddenly realized that I had a hard ground to the coils. They would
NEVER have fired anything. Quick snip of the two offending wires and she
fired right up!
The other good news is that my homemade prop didn't even fly apart once!
Perseverance pays, as does the help and concern of so many strangers and
friends.
Thanks to all who participated,
Gary
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | shad bell <aviatorbell(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Shad, Jack's flight plan |
Jack, If I can-leave home-by 7am and have no more than a 10mph headwind
I can be to Lowell by 1:30 (12:30 local).-- I did get a babysitter for
wed morning so I-AM leaving wednesday weather permitting.- I will try
to call you at one of my fuel stops probably-Plymouth, IN, around -10:3
wait at Poplar Grove Airport I can meet you there as well, be there around
e can-fly over to C37 as a 5 ship V formation.
-
Anxiously Waiting for Wednesday,
Shad NX92GB
-
p.s. Jack, what are ya'll doin for supper on wed night? Dad's driving up hi
s camper trailer he built, we could bring some burgers brats or dogs what d
o ya like?
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| Subject: | Re: Engine Run Report |
| From: | "Billy McCaskill" <billmz(at)cox.net> |
Congrats Gary! Can't wait to see the video and hear the engine roar to life for
the fist time!
--------
Billy McCaskill
Urbana, IL
tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon
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| From: | airlion <airlion(at)bellsouth.net> |
My good wife Susan wants to know if there is any WI FI service at Brodhead
field. Gardiner
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| Subject: | Re: Colorado Pietenpols |
| From: | "xTrainwrecKx" <derek.brundage(at)gmail.com> |
Gentlemen,
This is a very interesting topic, especially since I am so new to the world of
Piet building. May I ask where you find all of these different airfoils and such?
I wouldn't mind learning more about the Riblet, as it sounds like a more comfortable
and viable option for long flights the wife and I will be partaking
in... as I am sure we will have to hit high altitudes somewhere going from west
coast to east coast.
Very respectfully,
Derek
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| From: | "Jack" <jack(at)textors.com> |
Gardiner, look me up, I will have my Sprint Card.
Jack,
DSM
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of airlion
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 5:32 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: wi fi
My good wife Susan wants to know if there is any WI FI service at Brodhead
field. Gardiner
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| Subject: | Re: Colorado Pietenpols |
| From: | mark lee <mlmarkelee7(at)gmail.com> |
I am also just looking into it.I simply have googled-Riblett 612 and found
some good discussions.There is also discussion of the Riblett 613.5 that
might be a choice for lower powered Piets.So far this is from about 2008 and
is good reading.It looks like the 613.5 wasn't tried on a Piet at that
time.The 612 was showing very good performance and looks sorta like a Piet
wing.Have fun.
On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 3:53 PM, xTrainwrecKx wrote:
> derek.brundage(at)gmail.com>
>
> Gentlemen,
>
> This is a very interesting topic, especially since I am so new to the world
> of Piet building. May I ask where you find all of these different airfoils
> and such? I wouldn't mind learning more about the Riblet, as it sounds like
> a more comfortable and viable option for long flights the wife and I will be
> partaking in... as I am sure we will have to hit high altitudes somewhere
> going from west coast to east coast.
>
> Very respectfully,
> Derek
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346807#346807
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Engine Run Report |
| From: | "Jerry Dotson" <jdotson(at)centurylink.net> |
Gary just goes to show that you can't keep a GOOD man down very long. I am ready
to see the video.
--------
Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rolling
using Lycoming O-235
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346818#346818
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| From: | Jim Boyer <boyerjrb(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Engine Run Report |
Good news Gary; glad you have it on the fuselage and running okay now.
Cheers,
Jim B.
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| From: | shad bell <aviatorbell(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Piets to Brodhead |
Just a role call of Piets planning on attending Brodhead,
here are a few I know of,
Jack Phillips, Mat Paxton, Dan Helsper, Don Emch, Me (Shad Bell), Dick Nave
rtail, Frank Pavliga, Randy Bush, Kevin Purtee and thats about all I know o
f, Oh yea don't forget Pietie Lowell.- anyone else planning on flying in,
chime in.
-
Shad
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| From: | "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Piets to Brodhead |
I think Dick Navratil will have BOTH of his Pietenpols there, so that's at
least eleven.
Jack
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of shad bell
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 9:07 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piets to Brodhead
Just a role call of Piets planning on attending Brodhead,
here are a few I know of,
Jack Phillips, Mat Paxton, Dan Helsper, Don Emch, Me (Shad Bell), Dick
Navertail, Frank Pavliga, Randy Bush, Kevin Purtee and thats about all I
know of, Oh yea don't forget Pietie Lowell. anyone else planning on flying
in, chime in.
Shad
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Piets to Brodhead |
| From: | "Don Emch" <EmchAir(at)aol.com> |
Shad and others,
Right now it's looking like I'm going to have to drive. Long story and disappointing,
but whatcha gonna do...
Don Emch
NX899DE
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346831#346831
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| Subject: | Re: Piets to Brodhead |
| From: | helspersew(at)aol.com |
I didn't see Ken Perkin's name on the Forum schedule. Is he flying his Piet
up?
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
-----Original Message-----
From: shad bell <aviatorbell(at)yahoo.com>
Sent: Sun, Jul 17, 2011 8:09 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piets to Brodhead
Just a role call of Piets planning on attending Brodhead,
here are a few I know of,
Jack Phillips, Mat Paxton, Dan Helsper, Don Emch, Me (Shad Bell), Dick Nave
rtail, Frank Pavliga, Randy Bush, Kevin Purtee and thats about all I know o
f, Oh yea don't forget Pietie Lowell. anyone else planning on flying in, c
hime in.
Shad
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| Subject: | Brodhead on airport camping? |
| From: | "A&PBuggy" <bcjohnston(at)charter.net> |
Hello, I have been lurking on this forum for a while now, and have decided to drive
to Brodhead after work on Fri. Hope to arrive approx. 9:30 p.m. I was hoping
to park a minivan and sleep on the airport grounds for 2 nights. Is this allowed?
How about using a small grill to burn some supper on? Thanks, Brian.
--------
never enough hours in the day.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346836#346836
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| Subject: | Re: Met one of your old Brodhead friends today |
| From: | helspersew(at)aol.com |
Jack and Shad and Matt,
I am not sure if I will be ready when you guys get to Poplar Grove. I can't
leave (driving) TN till Tuesday afternoon. I was planning on packing up th
e Aeronca in Poplar Grove Wed. morning with all my crap and haul it over to
Brodhead to drop it off, then fly back to C77 to get the Piet. Can you guy
s give me a call when you get to C77? I'll let you know then. Thanks.
Dan Helsper
Puryear TN
815-298-5680
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | RBush96589(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Piets to Brodhead |
Hi Shad,Jack and all,
I plan on leaving early Thursday if nothing happens with work.Should be
there early afternoon.I'm trying out a new 66 inch warp drive prop on this
trip, got a couple of hours on it and am pretty impressed so far,.looking
forward to seeing every one.
Randy Bush
NX294RB
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Brodhead on airport camping? |
Brian,
My suggestion would be to blow off work on Friday and get there as early as
you can. Camping is not only allowed, it is encouraged. No restrictions on
grills as far as I know. Bring a camera.
Jack Phillips
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of A&PBuggy
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 9:48 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead on airport camping?
Hello, I have been lurking on this forum for a while now, and have decided
to drive to Brodhead after work on Fri. Hope to arrive approx. 9:30 p.m. I
was hoping to park a minivan and sleep on the airport grounds for 2 nights.
Is this allowed? How about using a small grill to burn some supper on?
Thanks, Brian.
--------
never enough hours in the day.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346836#346836
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Met one of your old Brodhead friends today |
Dan, if Shad won't get to Lowell untill Noon, we won't be ready to leave
Poplar Grove before 2:00. Do you think you'd be ready by then?
Jack
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
helspersew(at)aol.com
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 10:12 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Met one of your old Brodhead friends today
Jack and Shad and Matt,
I am not sure if I will be ready when you guys get to Poplar Grove. I can't
leave (driving) TN till Tuesday afternoon. I was planning on packing up the
Aeronca in Poplar Grove Wed. morning with all my crap and haul it over to
Brodhead to drop it off, then fly back to C77 to get the Piet. Can you guys
give me a call when you get to C77? I'll let you know then. Thanks.
Dan Helsper
Puryear TN
815-298-5680
-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Phillips <pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net>
Sent: Sun, Jul 17, 2011 12:49 pm
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Met one of your old Brodhead friends today
Shad,
Matt and I are planning to leave Virginia early Tuesday morning and hope to
get to Marion IN by late afternoon. We'll give you a call Tuesday evening
to keep you appraised of our progress. Lowell will be out first fuel stop
on Wednesday, approximately 2 hours out of Marion, so we can plan our
departure to met you at Lowell. Don Emch, are you still planning to meet up
with us? We should be at Poplar Grove an hour and a half after leaving
Lowell. Dan Helsper, are you going to be ready to head for Brodhead by
early Wednesday afternoon? It'll be great to have a 5-ship formation come
in all at once.
Jack Phillips
(919) 427-4440
_____
From: <mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com>
owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [
mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of shad bell
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 10:31 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Met one of your old Brodhead friends today
Jack, I am still hoping to get out of here on wednesday and hopefully be out
by Lowell or joliet by Noon time (CDT). Would love to meet up and fly in to
C37 as a formation. If you can Just call me when you get to lowell, and
leave me a mesage if I am still airborne.
Shad 740-972-1531
--- On Sat, 7/16/11, Jack Phillips <
pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net> wrote:
From: Jack Phillips < <mailto:pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net>
pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Met one of your old Brodhead friends today
Date: Saturday, July 16, 2011, 9:05 PM
<http://us.mc657.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net>
Still time to do it this year, Ben. Come on up to Virginia and fly with
Matt Paxton and me. We're planning to leave Tuesday morning and arrive by
early afternoon Wednesday in Brodhead.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
-----Original Message-----
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Charvet
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 8:06 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Met one of your old Brodhead friends today
I ran into Alan Wise at a fly-in breakfast this morning. I hadn't seen
him in a few years but he looks good. He told me he made 3 trips from
Florida to Brodhead when he had his Pietenpol. I guess if he can do it,
I should try for next year. The wife has offered to drive a chase
vehicle. You guys think of me while consuming brats and beets.
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| From: | "Dick Navratil" <horzpool(at)goldengate.net> |
Hi Jack
I found out on my trip to Sun n Fun this year that all Mc Donalds
restaurants have free WiFi now. It's pretty easy to us. There is a Mc
Donalds down the road in Brodhead.
Dick N.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack" <jack(at)textors.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 5:59 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: wi fi
>
> Gardiner, look me up, I will have my Sprint Card.
> Jack,
> DSM
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of airlion
> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 5:32 PM
> To: pietenpol
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: wi fi
>
>
> My good wife Susan wants to know if there is any WI FI service at Brodhead
> field. Gardiner
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Piets to Brodhead |
It'll be good to see you again, Randy. Fly Safe!
Jack Phillips
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
RBush96589(at)aol.com
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 10:24 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Piets to Brodhead
Hi Shad,Jack and all,
I plan on leaving early Thursday if nothing happens with work.Should be
there early afternoon.I'm trying out a new 66 inch warp drive prop on this
trip, got a couple of hours on it and am pretty impressed so far,.looking
forward to seeing every one.
Randy Bush
NX294RB
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Dick Navratil" <horzpool(at)goldengate.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Piets to Brodhead |
I am coming if yall spell my name right, its Navratil. I am coming with
a group of 4 from Mpls/St. paul area.
Dick N.
----- Original Message -----
From: shad bell
To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 8:07 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piets to Brodhead
Just a role call of Piets planning on attending Brodhead,
here are a few I know of,
Jack Phillips, Mat Paxton, Dan Helsper, Don Emch, Me (Shad
Bell), Dick Navertail, Frank Pavliga, Randy Bush, Kevin Purtee and thats
about all I know of, Oh yea don't forget Pietie Lowell. anyone else
planning on flying in, chime in.
Shad
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5(at)comcast.net> |
Gardiner - If Jack is too busy grilling, I'll mine, too....
Gary
-----Original Message-----
From: Jack
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 3:59 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: wi fi
Gardiner, look me up, I will have my Sprint Card.
Jack,
DSM
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of airlion
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 5:32 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: wi fi
My good wife Susan wants to know if there is any WI FI service at Brodhead
field. Gardiner
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | John Hofmann <jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com> |
Last year I was able to pick up "Brodhead Airport" wifi in a few places
around the field, including the cove and the pavilion.
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com
On Jul 17, 2011, at 9:30 PM, Dick Navratil wrote:
>
> Hi Jack
> I found out on my trip to Sun n Fun this year that all Mc Donalds
restaurants have free WiFi now. It's pretty easy to us. There is a Mc
Donalds down the road in Brodhead.
> Dick N.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack" <jack(at)textors.com>
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 5:59 PM
> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: wi fi
>
>
>>
>> Gardiner, look me up, I will have my Sprint Card.
>> Jack,
>> DSM
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
airlion
>> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 5:32 PM
>> To: pietenpol
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: wi fi
>>
>>
>> My good wife Susan wants to know if there is any WI FI service at
Brodhead
>> field. Gardiner
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Met one of your old Brodhead friends today |
| From: | helspersew(at)aol.com |
Jack,
I am really going to push to see if I can do this with you guys. I won't co
mpromise safety, but I won't waste any time either. Please call me when you
leave Lowell. Leave a message if I don't answer. I may still be airborn in
the Aeronca. Will there be someone on the ground at Brod to record all thi
s? That would be very cool.
Dan H
-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Phillips <pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net>
Sent: Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:32 pm
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Met one of your old Brodhead friends today
Dan, if Shad won=99t get to Lowell untill Noon, we won=99t be r
eady to leave Poplar Grove before 2:00. Do you think you=99d be read
y by then?
Jack
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis
t-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of helspersew(at)aol.com
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 10:12 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Met one of your old Brodhead friends today
Jack and Shad and Matt,
I am not sure if I will be ready when you guys get to Poplar Grove. I can't
leave (driving) TN till Tuesday afternoon. I was planning on packing up th
e Aeronca in Poplar Grove Wed. morning with all my crap and haul it over to
Brodhead to drop it off, then fly back to C77 to get the Piet. Can you guy
s give me a call when you get to C77? I'll let you know then. Thanks.
Dan Helsper
Puryear TN
815-298-5680
-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Phillips <pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net>
Sent: Sun, Jul 17, 2011 12:49 pm
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Met one of your old Brodhead friends today
Shad,
Matt and I are planning to leave Virginia early Tuesday morning and hope to
get to Marion IN by late afternoon. We=99ll give you a call Tuesday
evening to keep you appraised of our progress. Lowell will be out first f
uel stop on Wednesday, approximately 2 hours out of Marion, so we can plan
our departure to met you at Lowell. Don Emch, are you still planning to me
et up with us? We should be at Poplar Grove an hour and a half after leavi
ng Lowell. Dan Helsper, are you going to be ready to head for Brodhead by
early Wednesday afternoon? It=99ll be great to have a 5-ship formati
on come in all at once.
Jack Phillips
(919) 427-4440
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis
t-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of shad bell
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 10:31 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Met one of your old Brodhead friends today
Jack, I am still hoping to get out of here on wednesday and hopefully be ou
t by Lowell or joliet by Noon time (CDT). Would love to meet up and fly in
to C37 as a formation. If you can Just call me when you get to lowell, an
d leave me a mesage if I am still airborne.
Shad 740-972-1531
--- On Sat, 7/16/11, Jack Phillips wrote:
From: Jack Phillips <pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Met one of your old Brodhead friends today
Date: Saturday, July 16, 2011, 9:05 PM
et>
Still time to do it this year, Ben. Come on up to Virginia and fly with
Matt Paxton and me. We're planning to leave Tuesday morning and arrive by
early afternoon Wednesday in Brodhead.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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| From: | "Dick Navratil" <horzpool(at)goldengate.net> |
Any body know Edgar Howe or who dropped off his stuff at Brodhead?
Contact me.
Dick N.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Greg Cardinal" <gcardinal(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Piets to Brodhead |
Include Greg Cardinal, Bob Poore, Dick Navratil and Norm Tesmar.
Greg
----- Original Message -----
From: shad bell
To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 8:07 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piets to Brodhead
Just a role call of Piets planning on attending Brodhead,
here are a few I know of,
Jack Phillips, Mat Paxton, Dan Helsper, Don Emch, Me (Shad
Bell), Dick Navertail, Frank Pavliga, Randy Bush, Kevin Purtee and thats
about all I know of, Oh yea don't forget Pietie Lowell. anyone else
planning on flying in, chime in.
Shad
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Piets to Brodhead |
| From: | Ken Bickers <bickers.ken(at)gmail.com> |
Jack Greiner is planning to fly his newly finished Piet to Brodhead. He
still had about 8 hours to fly-off when I saw him a bit over a week ago. I
suspect he's finished the fly-off period by now.
On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 9:11 PM, Greg Cardinal wrote:
> **
> Include Greg Cardinal, Bob Poore, Dick Navratil and Norm Tesmar.
>
> Greg
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* shad bell
> *To:* pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 17, 2011 8:07 PM
> *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: Piets to Brodhead
>
> Just a role call of Piets planning on attending Brodhead,
> here are a few I know of,
> Jack Phillips, Mat Paxton, Dan Helsper, Don Emch, Me (Shad Bell), Dick
> Navertail, Frank Pavliga, Randy Bush, Kevin Purtee and thats about all I
> know of, Oh yea don't forget Pietie Lowell. anyone else planning on flying
> in, chime in.
>
> Shad
>
> *
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| Subject: | Re: Raising the instrument panel? |
| From: | "bubbleboy" <scott.dawson3(at)bigpond.com> |
Hi Jim...thats the answer I wanted...lol! You wouldnt have a profile shot of your
Fuse so I could see how it looks?
I mapped out my instrument panel with the added height and it all fits lovely so
I would like to do that if it looks ok.
Scotty
--------
Scotty
Tamworth, Australia
Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
www.scottyspietenpol.com
Rudder, Vert stab, Elevators and Ribs built...Building Horizontal stab...
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| From: | shad bell <aviatorbell(at)yahoo.com> |
Well guys, I pulled the prop of the piet and put on the secret wepon vortel
ator tape.- I sanded the backs of the prop blades and will re-paint and s
tatic balance the prop tomorrow.- I suspect with the vortilator tape and
a corvair i should get at least Mach 0.78.- If you think you hear a sonic
boom, it is probably just my crank slapping the sides of the crankcase.-
I just had to try out this 30 dollar gimmick, Dad bought it almost a year
ago, so I should have time to fly a couple hrs with this "Miricale Tape", b
efore blasting off for Brodhead.
Shad
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| Subject: | Re: Piets to Brodhead |
| From: | "Dale McCleskey" <dale.mccleskey(at)lifeway.com> |
I'm planning to leave Lebanon TN sometime Thursday, fly part way and find a nice,
soft hotel bed Thursday night. So plan to be in by noon on Friday, provided
I don't turn my sectional upside down and wind up in L.A. (that's lower Alabama
btw).
--------
Dale McCleskey
N7035N
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| From: | Dan Yocum <yocum(at)fnal.gov> |
| Subject: | Re: Piets to Brodhead |
Rob Bach will be there on Saturday around noon. Not sure which Piet
he's bringing - probably the Blue One.
On 07/17/2011 08:07 PM, shad bell wrote:
> Just a role call of Piets planning on attending Brodhead,
> here are a few I know of,
> Jack Phillips, Mat Paxton, Dan Helsper, Don Emch, Me (Shad Bell), Dick
> Navertail, Frank Pavliga, Randy Bush, Kevin Purtee and thats about all I
> know of, Oh yea don't forget Pietie Lowell. anyone else planning on
> flying in, chime in.
> Shad
>
> *
>
>
> *
--
Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Dan Yocum <yocum(at)fnal.gov> |
| Subject: | Re: Piets to Brodhead |
I think Larry Williams is flying is Piet.
I'll have mine there, too.
On 07/17/2011 08:07 PM, shad bell wrote:
> Just a role call of Piets planning on attending Brodhead,
> here are a few I know of,
> Jack Phillips, Mat Paxton, Dan Helsper, Don Emch, Me (Shad Bell), Dick
> Navertail, Frank Pavliga, Randy Bush, Kevin Purtee and thats about all I
> know of, Oh yea don't forget Pietie Lowell. anyone else planning on
> flying in, chime in.
> Shad
>
> *
>
>
> *
--
Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | shad bell <aviatorbell(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: secret wepon |
--- On Mon, 7/18/11, shad bell wrote:
From: shad bell <aviatorbell(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: secret wepon
Date: Monday, July 18, 2011, 3:43 AM
Well guys, I pulled the prop of the piet and put on the secret wepon vortel
ator tape.- I sanded the backs of the prop blades and will re-paint and s
tatic balance the prop tomorrow.- I suspect with the vortilator tape and
a corvair i should get at least Mach 0.78.- If you think you hear a sonic
boom, it is probably just my crank slapping the sides of the crankcase.-
I just had to try out this 30 dollar gimmick, Dad bought it almost a year
ago, so I should have time to fly a couple hrs with this "Miricale Tape", b
efore blasting off for Brodhead.
Shad
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | John Hofmann <jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Piets to Brodhead |
Somehow mine should be there, I think, maybe...
http://www.cafepress.com/half_fast
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com
On Jul 18, 2011, at 11:43 AM, Dan Yocum wrote:
>
> I think Larry Williams is flying is Piet.
>
> I'll have mine there, too.
>
> On 07/17/2011 08:07 PM, shad bell wrote:
>> Just a role call of Piets planning on attending Brodhead,
>> here are a few I know of,
>> Jack Phillips, Mat Paxton, Dan Helsper, Don Emch, Me (Shad Bell), Dick
>> Navertail, Frank Pavliga, Randy Bush, Kevin Purtee and thats about all I
>> know of, Oh yea don't forget Pietie Lowell. anyone else planning on
>> flying in, chime in.
>> Shad
>>
>> *
>>
>>
>> *
>
> --
> Dan Yocum
> Fermilab 630.840.6509
> yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
> "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Raising the instrument panel? |
| From: | "Bill Church" <billspiet(at)sympatico.ca> |
Scotty,
I think you'll find that most builders that have raised the rear turtledeck, also
raised the forward decking by a similar amount (or maybe slightly less). As
long as you keep the changes small, they will be hard to detect visually, but
may make the plane fit you better (assuming you're above average in height.)
Bill C.
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| Subject: | Re: Piets to Brodhead |
| From: | Ryan Mueller <rmueller23(at)gmail.com> |
I hope...or we're gonna have to pay rent for July! :-P
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 12:22 PM, John Hofmann wrote:
> Somehow mine should be there, I think, maybe...
>
> http://www.cafepress.com/half_fast
> John Hofmann
> Vice-President, Information Technology
> The Rees Group, Inc.
> 2424 American Lane
> Madison, WI 53704
> Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
> Fax: 608.443.2474
> Email: jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com
>
> On Jul 18, 2011, at 11:43 AM, Dan Yocum wrote:
>
>
> I think Larry Williams is flying is Piet.
>
> I'll have mine there, too.
>
> On 07/17/2011 08:07 PM, shad bell wrote:
>
> Just a role call of Piets planning on attending Brodhead,
>
> here are a few I know of,
>
> Jack Phillips, Mat Paxton, Dan Helsper, Don Emch, Me (Shad Bell), Dick
>
> Navertail, Frank Pavliga, Randy Bush, Kevin Purtee and thats about all I
>
> know of, Oh yea don't forget Pietie Lowell. anyone else planning on
>
> flying in, chime in.
>
> Shad
>
>
> *
>
>
> *
>
>
> --
> Dan Yocum
> Fermilab 630.840.6509
> yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
> "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty - The
> --> &n========================**
>
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | shad bell <aviatorbell(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | wed forcast is WINDY for Chicago |
Looks like it is going to be pretty windy on wednesday afternoon.- I have
been checking the forcast, and chicago area is calling for SSW17mph with g
ust into the 30's by early afternoon.- That will slow me down!- It will
make me work to keep the airplane in one piece as well.- I guess I will
just have to play it by ear, if it gets too bad I will wait untill thursday
to leave.- It's gonna be hotter than hell's furnace as well.
-
Shad
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Jim Markle <jim_markle(at)mindspring.com> |
| Subject: | Video of Kevin leaving this morning... |
What a treat...got to meet Kevin and Shelley and Aiden (sorry, probably mispelled)
for a quick visit.
http://youtu.be/jQyYKxwqe-o
It was not fun watching them leave. Good people and they'll always be welcome
in our home!
Jim
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Video of Kevin leaving this morning... |
| From: | helspersew(at)aol.com |
Very cool!!. Gave me chills!! Praying for safe travels!!
Thanks Jim!
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Markle <jim_markle(at)mindspring.com>
Sent: Mon, Jul 18, 2011 7:53 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Video of Kevin leaving this morning...
>
What a treat...got to meet Kevin and Shelley and Aiden (sorry, probably
ispelled) for a quick visit.
http://youtu.be/jQyYKxwqe-o
It was not fun watching them leave. Good people and they'll always be welc
ome
n our home!
Jim
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| From: | "Jack" <jack(at)textors.com> |
| Subject: | Video of Kevin leaving this morning... |
What a thrill, thanks for sharing Jim!
See you soon,
Jack
DSM
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Markle
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 7:50 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Video of Kevin leaving this morning...
What a treat...got to meet Kevin and Shelley and Aiden (sorry, probably
mispelled) for a quick visit.
http://youtu.be/jQyYKxwqe-o
It was not fun watching them leave. Good people and they'll always be
welcome in our home!
Jim
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Piets to Brodhead |
| From: | "ldmill" <lorin.miller(at)emerson.com> |
Weather permitting, N30PP will be there as well. Leaving Wednesday night from Marshalltown,
Iowa - overnighting in Manchester, Iowa with family - then Thursday
morning showing up in Brodhead. If I could only figure out how to fit my air-conditioner
and generator for the tent in the GN - I'd be a much happy camper...
Lorin
--------
Lorin Miller
Waiex N81YX
GN-1 N30PP
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| Subject: | 20 year old single female ISO Pietenpol ride at Brodhead |
| From: | "freerangequark(at)gmail" <freerangequark(at)gmail.com> |
Hi,
Per your requests I will be bringing a guest with me to Brodhead on Saturday.
She is a 20 year old single female named Talia (pic attached) and she would love
to fly in a Pietenpol.
Is anyone willing to help her into the front cockpit of their Pietenpol and take
this young lady (cough! cough!) flying?
Glenn
--------
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the environment and recycle this data after use.
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________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | 20 year old single female ISO Pietenpol ride at Brodhead |
| From: | "freerangequark(at)gmail" <freerangequark(at)gmail.com> |
Hi,
Per your requests I will be bringing a guest with me to Brodhead on Saturday.
She is a 20 year old single female named Talia (pic attached) and she would love
to fly in a Pietenpol.
Is anyone willing to help her into the front cockpit of their Pietenpol and take
this young lady (cough! cough!) flying?
Glenn
--------
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the environment and recycle this data after use.
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| From: | Lawrence Williams <lnawms(at)yahoo.com> |
I got a tailwind and should be at Poplar Grove or maybe even Brodhead this
evening (Tue). I spent the night at the Vincennes IL airport last night and
am planning to leave here by 0700.=0A-=0A-See you there!!=0A-=0ALarr
y
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: 20 year old single female ISO Pietenpol ride at Brodhead |
| From: | "bubbleboy" <scott.dawson3(at)bigpond.com> |
My keyboard keeps shorting from the drool. Trying to book a fare from Australia
and convince my wife she wouldnt enjoy it.....I see trouble [Twisted Evil]
Scotty
--------
Tamworth, Australia
Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
www.scottyspietenpol.com
Rudder, Vert stab, Elevators and Ribs built...Building Horizontal stab...
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347017#347017
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Lawrence Williams <lnawms(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | enroute to C-37??? |
Well friends, I got one leg this morning (Lawrenceville to Mattoon) and alm
ost hovered in for a landing. Winds are a bit "spicey" for the kite-like Pi
et so I'm tied down here until the gale abates. Last I looked it was 270@12
g18. =0ALooks like my euphoria about getting to Poplar Grove and possibly
hooking up with DH might have been dashed. I might be able to get in anothe
r leg or two this afternoon or evening if things settle down. =0ASuch is th
e life of a pilot flying a pasture plane cross country!=0A-=0ALarry W.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | shad bell <aviatorbell(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: enroute to C-37??? |
Good luck Larry, I am a little concerned about tommorow, its forcast 17 gus
t to 31mph for poplar grove and brodhead, and staying windy all through wed
night.- Storms rolled through Ohio at about 6am today, so hopefully Jack
and Matt will be able to get out.
-
Hope to see y'all there,
-
Shad
--- On Tue, 7/19/11, Lawrence Williams wrote:
From: Lawrence Williams <lnawms(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: enroute to C-37???
Date: Tuesday, July 19, 2011, 10:33 AM
Well friends, I got one leg this morning (Lawrenceville to Mattoon) and alm
ost hovered in for a landing. Winds are a bit "spicey" for the kite-like Pi
et so I'm tied down here until the gale abates. Last I looked it was 270@12
g18.
Looks like my euphoria about getting to Poplar Grove and possibly hooking u
p with DH might have been dashed. I might be able to get in another leg or
two this afternoon or evening if things settle down.
Such is the life of a pilot flying a pasture plane cross country!
-
Larry W.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Oscar Zuniga <taildrags(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | Engine Run Report |
Dan wrote:
>I have an industrial fish scale for you to use.
Dan, that won't work. If you put anything other than an
industrial fish on it, the readout is incorrect.
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
Flying Squirrel N2069Z "Rocket"
Medford, OR
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Dan Yocum <yocum(at)fnal.gov> |
| Subject: | Re: enroute to C-37??? |
Larry,
I'm going to ask a dumb question: have you sealed your aileron and
elevator gaps?
Maybe I'm just an unwittingly bold pilot (not my intention, let me
assure you), but winds 12 gusting to 18 isn't *too* bad for me to fly
in. Let me also say that before I sealed my aileron gaps, 12mph was at
the hairy edge of my comfort zone. Lots of pucker factor with
unresponsive ailerons.
If you haven't sealed the gaps and can get to a home improvement store,
pick up some 1.5" wide blue painters tape and apply it to the aileron
gaps. It makes all the difference in the world.
Safe journeys!
Dan
On 07/19/2011 09:33 AM, Lawrence Williams wrote:
> Well friends, I got one leg this morning (Lawrenceville to Mattoon) and
> almost hovered in for a landing. Winds are a bit "spicey" for the
> kite-like Piet so I'm tied down here until the gale abates. Last I
> looked it was 270@12 g18.
> Looks like my euphoria about getting to Poplar Grove and possibly
> hooking up with DH might have been dashed. I might be able to get in
> another leg or two this afternoon or evening if things settle down.
> Such is the life of a pilot flying a pasture plane cross country!
> Larry W.
>
> *
>
>
> *
--
Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | RBush96589(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | piets to brodhead |
hello all,
Just got back in from a run to ohio.now I have to take a load to savannah
ga that I had not planned on ,so looks like it may be friday morning
before I get out of here unless I can get home early enough thursday to make any
progress that way. safe flights to all of you on your way and hopefully
will see every one friday.
Randy Bush
NX294RB
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jack" <jack(at)textors.com> |
| Subject: | piets to brodhead |
Randy will you make it to our brat feed 11:00 to 12:00 Friday?
Jack
DSM
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
RBush96589(at)aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 11:23 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: piets to brodhead
hello all,
Just got back in from a run to ohio.now I have to take a load to savannah
ga that I had not planned on ,so looks like it may be friday morning before
I get out of here unless I can get home early enough thursday to make any
progress that way. safe flights to all of you on your way and hopefully will
see every one friday.
Randy Bush
NX294RB
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Jim Markle <jim_markle(at)mindspring.com> |
| Subject: | Someone just arrived/parked at Brodhead!!! |
see attached....
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Dan Yocum <yocum(at)fnal.gov> |
| Subject: | Re: Someone just arrived/parked at Brodhead!!! |
Down from the heavens!
On 07/19/2011 12:28 PM, Jim Markle wrote:
> see attached....
>
--
Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Someone just arrived/parked at Brodhead!!! |
| From: | "K5YAC" <hangar10(at)cox.net> |
It has begun.
--------
Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347063#347063
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | John Hofmann <jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Someone just arrived/parked at Brodhead!!! |
I just talked to Kevin and he is at the Sand Burr enjoying lunch. No
issues at all on the trip up.
Jack Phillips and Matt Paxton were delayed out. Matt had a bungee give
out on the gear that cost them a few hours. It happened during a tight
turn. No damage other than the prop tips. It looks as the bungees may
have been loose and went a bit over center, then were unable to come
back. They are replacing the prop with the St Croix that Jack has at his
hangar and tightening the bungees. With any luck may get across the
mountains of WV today.
-john-
http://www.cafepress.com/half_fast
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com
On Jul 19, 2011, at 1:00 PM, K5YAC wrote:
>
> It has begun.
>
> --------
> Mark Chouinard
> Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347063#347063
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Gene Rambo <generambo(at)msn.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Someone just arrived/parked at Brodhead!!! |
People in Wichita pay $20 to see a crash like that!
From: jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Someone just arrived/parked at Brodhead!!!
Date: Tue=2C 19 Jul 2011 13:36:17 -0500
I just talked to Kevin and he is at the Sand Burr enjoying lunch. No issues
at all on the trip up.
Jack Phillips and Matt Paxton were delayed out. Matt had a bungee give out
on the gear that cost them a few hours. It happened during a tight turn. No
damage other than the prop tips. It looks as the bungees may have been lo
ose and went a bit over center=2C then were unable to come back. They are r
eplacing the prop with the St Croix that Jack has at his hangar and tighten
ing the bungees. With any luck may get across the mountains of WV today.
-john-
http://www.cafepress.com/half_fast
John Hofmann
Vice-President=2C Information Technology
The Rees Group=2C Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison=2C WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com
On Jul 19=2C 2011=2C at 1:00 PM=2C K5YAC wrote:
It has begun.
--------
Mark Chouinard
Wings=2C Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347063#347063 - The
--> &n==================
====== ==
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________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | John Hofmann <jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Someone just arrived/parked at Brodhead!!! |
I wish I was there to smack him with a 2x4....
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com
On Jul 19, 2011, at 2:38 PM, Gene Rambo wrote:
> People in Wichita pay $20 to see a crash like that!
>
> From: jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Someone just arrived/parked at
Brodhead!!!
> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 13:36:17 -0500
> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
>
> I just talked to Kevin and he is at the Sand Burr enjoying lunch. No
issues at all on the trip up.
>
> Jack Phillips and Matt Paxton were delayed out. Matt had a bungee give
out on the gear that cost them a few hours. It happened during a tight
turn. No damage other than the prop tips. It looks as the bungees may
have been loose and went a bit over center, then were unable to come
back. They are replacing the prop with the St Croix that Jack has at his
hangar and tightening the bungees. With any luck may get across the
mountains of WV today.
>
> -john-
>
> http://www.cafepress.com/half_fast
> John Hofmann
> Vice-President, Information Technology
> The Rees Group, Inc.
> 2424 American Lane
> Madison, WI 53704
> Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
> Fax: 608.443.2474
> Email: jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com
>
> On Jul 19, 2011, at 1:00 PM, K5YAC wrote:
>
>
> It has begun.
>
> --------
> Mark Chouinard
> Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347063#347063
- The --> &n================
======== ========================
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "JerryGrogan" <jerry(at)SKYCLASSIC.NET> |
| Subject: | piets to brodhead |
Jack just wanted to let you know Dad and I will be there.
Jerry Grogan
Des Moines
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 12:11 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: piets to brodhead
Randy will you make it to our brat feed 11:00 to 12:00 Friday?
Jack
DSM
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
RBush96589(at)aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 11:23 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: piets to brodhead
hello all,
Just got back in from a run to ohio.now I have to take a load to savannah
ga that I had not planned on ,so looks like it may be friday morning before
I get out of here unless I can get home early enough thursday to make any
progress that way. safe flights to all of you on your way and hopefully will
see every one friday.
Randy Bush
NX294RB
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
http://forums.matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: piets to brodhead |
| From: | Jack <jack(at)textors.com> |
Fantastic!
Jack Textor
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 19, 2011, at 3:10 PM, "JerryGrogan" wrote:
> Jack just wanted to let you know Dad and I will be there.
>
>
>
> Jerry Grogan
>
> Des Moines
>
>
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li
st-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 12:11 PM
> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: piets to brodhead
>
>
>
> Randy will you make it to our brat feed 11:00 to 12:00 Friday?
>
> Jack
>
> DSM
>
>
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li
st-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of RBush96589(at)aol.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 11:23 AM
> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: piets to brodhead
>
>
>
> hello all,
>
> Just got back in from a run to ohio.now I have to take a load to savannah
ga that I had not planned on ,so looks like it may be friday morning before
I get out of here unless I can get home early enough thursday to make any p
rogress that way. safe flights to all of you on your way and hopefully will s
ee every one friday.
>
> Randy Bush
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> NX294RB
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| From: | shad bell <aviatorbell(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | secret wepon tape |
Well folks, just test flew the prop with the vortex tape on it, it actually
works.- I can pull the power back even further to maintain 78mph, and 29
00rpm (indicated).- It is about 100 150 rpm faster on climbout.- Woth t
he effort I guess, just not sure how long it will stick to the prop before
it starts coming loose.
Weather permiting I'm headed out at 7am tommorow.
Shad
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| Subject: | Re: secret wepon tape |
| From: | mark lee <mlmarkelee7(at)gmail.com> |
That's really weird.You say it's just tape?
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 2:09 PM, shad bell wrote:
> Well folks, just test flew the prop with the vortex tape on it, it actually
> works. I can pull the power back even further to maintain 78mph, and
> 2900rpm (indicated). It is about 100 150 rpm faster on climbout. Woth the
> effort I guess, just not sure how long it will stick to the prop before it
> starts coming loose.
> Weather permiting I'm headed out at 7am tommorow.
> Shad
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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| From: | Dan Yocum <yocum(at)fnal.gov> |
| Subject: | Re: secret wepon tape |
It's dimple tape. Think golf ball dimples.
The original dimple tape web site is gone, but you can buy the stuff at
any vinyl sign shop. Cut it into 1" wide strips and apply it to the
thickest part of the airfoil (prop, wing, aerodynamic strut, etc.).
Works like vortex generators. Bill Rewey put it on his prop and gets
10% increase in performance and quieter operations, too. Glad to hear
that Shad is getting similar improvement.
Shad, did you superglue it on to the prop?
Dan
On 07/19/2011 04:37 PM, mark lee wrote:
> That's really weird.You say it's just tape?
>
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 2:09 PM, shad bell > wrote:
>
> Well folks, just test flew the prop with the vortex tape on it, it
> actually works. I can pull the power back even further to maintain
> 78mph, and 2900rpm (indicated). It is about 100 150 rpm faster on
> climbout. Woth the effort I guess, just not sure how long it will
> stick to the prop before it starts coming loose.
> Weather permiting I'm headed out at 7am tommorow.
> Shad
>
> *
>
> " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
> tp://forums.matronics.com
> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
> *
>
>
> *
>
>
> *
--
Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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| From: | JOSEPH SWITHIN <joeswithin(at)yahoo.com> |
Anyone passing through on the way to mecca if you need assistance etc. call me
on my cell. Morris, IL is basically I80 and St Rt 47. We are just west of Joliet
if that helps. I have to work Wednesday and I have an appointment in Joliet
at 4:00. My cell number is 630-306-9982. I will be at home on Thursday. Worst
case scenario I will be driving up on Friday a.m. so if you need a ride I can
pick you up along the way. Good Luck, God Bless and we'll see you at Brodhead.
Joe Swithin
joeswithin(at)yahoo.com
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| Subject: | Re: Someone just arrived/parked at Brodhead!!! |
| From: | "Pieti Lowell" <Lowellcfrank(at)yahoo.com> |
Kevin:
Did you have a safety cable, loosely Nicro Pressed across the bungees ?
That is supposed to prevent the prop damage.
Pieti Lowell
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347108#347108
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| From: | "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Someone just arrived/parked at Brodhead!!! |
We didn't make it out today. Weather was IFR until about 2:30 or 3:00, and
we had to drive an hour and a half each way back to my hangar at Smith
Mountin Lake to get my spare prop for Matt's plane. By the time we got the
new prop installed and the bungees fixed, it was 6:00 PM and we were too
tired to think about flying. We'll launch as early as we can in the morning
and see how far we can get. Forecast looks pretty good. With luck, we
might make it all the way, landing Brodhead by about 7:00 PM
Jack Phillips & Matt Paxton
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hofmann
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Someone just arrived/parked at Brodhead!!!
I just talked to Kevin and he is at the Sand Burr enjoying lunch. No issues
at all on the trip up.
Jack Phillips and Matt Paxton were delayed out. Matt had a bungee give out
on the gear that cost them a few hours. It happened during a tight turn. No
damage other than the prop tips. It looks as the bungees may have been
loose and went a bit over center, then were unable to come back. They are
replacing the prop with the St Croix that Jack has at his hangar and
tightening the bungees. With any luck may get across the mountains of WV
today.
-john-
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| Subject: | Re: Someone just arrived/parked at Brodhead!!! |
| From: | gboothe5(at)comcast.net |
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| From: | shad bell <aviatorbell(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: secret wepon tape |
No I just used the self adheasive backing, Wasn't sure if I would get any v
ibration or not, and I wouldn't have time to refinish the prop if I had to
sand off super glue.- Ours is not the dimple tape, it looks like a pinked
tape about 1/4 in wide or so.- I had dad order it and he got the stuff f
rom aircraft spruce, probably not quite as good as dimple tape, but I will
try-dimpletape on the spare prop when I get time.
-
Shad
--- On Tue, 7/19/11, Dan Yocum wrote:
From: Dan Yocum <yocum(at)fnal.gov>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: secret wepon tape
Date: Tuesday, July 19, 2011, 6:06 PM
It's dimple tape.- Think golf ball dimples.
The original dimple tape web site is gone, but you can buy the stuff at
any vinyl sign shop.- Cut it into 1" wide strips and apply it to the
thickest part of the airfoil (prop, wing, aerodynamic strut, etc.).
Works like vortex generators.- Bill Rewey put it on his prop and gets
10% increase in performance and quieter operations, too.- Glad to hear
that Shad is getting similar improvement.
Shad, did you superglue it on to the prop?
Dan
On 07/19/2011 04:37 PM, mark lee wrote:
> That's really weird.You say it's just tape?
>
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 2:09 PM, shad bell > wrote:
>
>- ---Well folks, just test flew the prop with the vortex tape on i
t, it
>- ---actually works.- I can pull the power back even further to
maintain
>- ---78mph, and 2900rpm (indicated).- It is about 100 150 rpm fa
ster on
>- ---climbout.- Woth the effort I guess, just not sure how long
it will
>- ---stick to the prop before it starts coming loose.
>- ---Weather permiting I'm headed out at 7am tommorow.
>- ---Shad
>
>- ---*
>
>- ---" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pieten
pol-List
>- ---tp://forums.matronics.com
>- ---_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
>- ---*
>
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Dan Yocum
Fermilab- 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
le, List Admin.
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| From: | Dan Yocum <yocum(at)fnal.gov> |
| Subject: | Re: secret wepon tape |
Ah, I bet I know what you're talking about. The glider guys use these
zig-zag tapes on their wings:
http://www.wingsandwheels.com/page28.htm (search for zig-zag in the page).
We'll talk this weekend, but did you have to rebalance the prop after
applying the tape?
Dan
On 07/19/2011 09:16 PM, shad bell wrote:
> No I just used the self adheasive backing, Wasn't sure if I would get
> any vibration or not, and I wouldn't have time to refinish the prop if I
> had to sand off super glue. Ours is not the dimple tape, it looks like a
> pinked tape about 1/4 in wide or so. I had dad order it and he got the
> stuff from aircraft spruce, probably not quite as good as dimple tape,
> but I will try dimpletape on the spare prop when I get time.
> Shad
>
> --- On *Tue, 7/19/11, Dan Yocum //* wrote:
>
>
> From: Dan Yocum <yocum(at)fnal.gov>
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: secret wepon tape
> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
> Date: Tuesday, July 19, 2011, 6:06 PM
>
> <http://us.mc657.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=yocum@fnal.gov>>
>
> It's dimple tape. Think golf ball dimples.
>
> The original dimple tape web site is gone, but you can buy the stuff at
> any vinyl sign shop. Cut it into 1" wide strips and apply it to the
> thickest part of the airfoil (prop, wing, aerodynamic strut, etc.).
> Works like vortex generators. Bill Rewey put it on his prop and gets
> 10% increase in performance and quieter operations, too. Glad to hear
> that Shad is getting similar improvement.
>
> Shad, did you superglue it on to the prop?
>
> Dan
>
>
> On 07/19/2011 04:37 PM, mark lee wrote:
> > That's really weird.You say it's just tape?
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 2:09 PM, shad bell <http://us.mc657.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=aviatorbell@yahoo.com>
> > <http://us.mc657.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=aviatorbell@yahoo.com>>>
> wrote:
> >
> > Well folks, just test flew the prop with the vortex tape on it, it
> > actually works. I can pull the power back even further to maintain
> > 78mph, and 2900rpm (indicated). It is about 100 150 rpm faster on
> > climbout. Woth the effort I guess, just not sure how long it will
> > stick to the prop before it starts coming loose.
> > Weather permiting I'm headed out at 7am tommorow.
> > Shad
> >
> > *
> >
> > " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
> > tp://forums.matronics.com
> > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
> >
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> >
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> > *
> >
> >
> > *
>
> --
> Dan Yocum
> Fermilab 630.840.6509
> yocum(at)fnal.gov
> <http://us.mc657.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=yocum@fnal.gov>,
> http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
> "I fly because it releases my t;
> <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List>http://forums.sp;
> - List Contribution Web S -Matt Dralle, Listm/contribution"
> target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution
> <http://forums.matronics.com/>
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Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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| From: | Jim Boyer <boyerjrb(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Engine Run Video |
Hi Gary,
Your Corvair sounds good. It must be really neat to be able to=C2- sit in
it and start the engine now.
Congradulations; Arlene and I will see you in Brodhead.
Cheers,
Jim B.
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| Subject: | Re: Someone just arrived/parked at Brodhead!!! |
| From: | "aerocarjake" <flight.jake(at)gmail.com> |
Wish I could be delayed.on a trip to Brodhead...... I guess I actually am as I
have to finish my pane before I can fly it there................ thanks for all
the posts so I can enjoy Brodhead from my phone on Seattle... I did get to fly
backseat in a t-6 doing formation flying on Saturday so don't feel too sorry
for me...........
--------
Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347135#347135
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| From: | "Boothe, Gary" <GBoothe(at)LWSupply.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Engine Run Video |
Thanks! See you there!
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Sent: Tue Jul 19 22:14:54 2011
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Engine Run Video
Hi Gary,
Your Corvair sounds good. It must be really neat to be able to sit in
it and start the engine now.
Congratulations; Arlene and I will see you in Brodhead.
Cheers,
Jim B.
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| Subject: | Piets to Brodhead |
| From: | helspersew(at)aol.com |
Drove up here to PG yesterday and over nighted. Getting all my last minute
business stuff done this a.m. Sometime later this morning I'll pack up the
Aeronca and fly my camping stuff (including the super-sized fish scale for
Gary) over to C-37 and dump off. Then back to PG to get NX929DH ready. Not
sure when that will be. Hopefully these winds will not be as bad as everyb
ody is saying. Right now they are light. So as of right now the plan is to
arrive at Brodhead today sometime.
This is the last time I will get a chance to check this list today, so if a
ny of you boys are getting close to C-77 give me a call (815) 298-5680. May
be we can hook-up.
Everybody fly safe, ya hear?
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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| Subject: | Re: Piets to Brodhead |
| From: | gboothe5(at)comcast.net |
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| From: | jeff wilson <jlwilsonnn(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Continental Engine Questions |
Hey Guys and Gals,
-
Here's a couple technical questions for those of you not pre-occupied with
the Brodhead reunion this year.
-
-
Question #1- We have mounted a 0-200 on our chapter Piet and removed the
----------------- -alternator-and sta
rter.- We have covered the the alternator mount with
-------------------aluminum plate and
plan to do the same over the starter cavity. But
------------------ here is the question
, there is oil pumped to the starter gears, if we remove
------------------ the gears and cover
the hole, will that cause an oil pressure drop
------------------ because that oil cha
nnel isn't hitting any resistance?
-
Question #2- Where can we find a DIY guide for running this engine on Auto
gas. Around
------------------- here the only aut
o gas we can get includes 10% Ethanol. We're good with
------------------- the fuel tank and
line. Its all aluminum-with brass fittings.
-
Jeff Wilson
Chapter 64
KCPS
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| Subject: | Re: Someone just arrived/parked at Brodhead!!! |
| From: | "xTrainwrecKx" <derek.brundage(at)gmail.com> |
Sorry about the misfortune... glad you guys are okay.
Enjoy your time at Brodhead and I will hold things steady here in Afghanistan.
Just please... pleeeeeeease post some pics for me and the rest of the fellas that
could not make it out this year. :D
Very respectfully,
Derek
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| Subject: | Re: secret wepon tape |
| From: | "womenfly2" <Love2Fly.KAP(at)gmail.com> |
>From a post I did on the J3 forum as a curiosity question to the members on this
topic.
> Well, when Charlie Horton tried it on the prop of his Comanche 400, his rate
of climb went from 1800 fpm to 500 fpm. That's a performance improvement I can
do without.
>
> More telling, Greg Deetman did extensive and rigourous flight testing on it for
his 136 page Master's Degree thesis at the University of Tennessee. Page 71
of 136 sums it up. When optimally placed, there was no discernible performance
increase. When non-optimally placed, the performance degradation ranged from
about 4% to 11%.
>
> Performance of dimples is very Reynolds number specific, and our aircraft only
transiently pass through that small range of Reynolds numbers. This is a performance
"enhancement" I don't need.
>
> P.S. Vortilator tape works better, and it doesn't always work.
--------
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| Subject: | Re: Piets to Brodhead |
| From: | "indyaquanaut" <dave(at)granitebydesign.us> |
Dale McCleskey wrote:
> I'm planning to leave Lebanon TN sometime Thursday, fly part way and find a nice,
soft hotel bed Thursday night. So plan to be in by noon on Friday, provided
I don't turn my sectional upside down and wind up in L.A. (that's lower Alabama
btw).
Dale, I'm just on the north side of Indianapolis (KTYQ) - Indianapolis Executive
Airport. If you make it this far Thursday and have an interest, I can probably
find you a hanger to put your bird in Thurs. night. I also have a spare bedroom
you can use. I plan on going to Broadhead Saturday in my Cessna 170. Don't
have my Piet done yet. If interested let me know.
Dave Esslinger
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| Subject: | Re: Engine Run Video |
| From: | "caldwrl" <caldwrl(at)etex.net> |
Gary... what a great video. I look forward to your aircraft flying around Holly
Lake Ranch some day. I hope to have my 'vair running by year's end. See you
at Brodhead... hopefully Friday afternoon if the old Stinson holds together
and the rain stays away.
--------
Robert Caldwell
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| Subject: | Re: Engine Run Video |
| From: | gboothe5(at)comcast.net |
Thanks! I'll be looking for you!
------Original Message------
From: Robert Caldwell
Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
ReplyTo: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Engine Run Video
Sent: Jul 20, 2011 2:09 PM
Gary... what a great video. I look forward to your aircraft flying around Holly
Lake Ranch some day. I hope to have my 'vair running by year's end. See you
at Brodhead... hopefully Friday afternoon if the old Stinson holds together
and the rain stays away.
--------
Robert Caldwell
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| From: | John Hofmann <jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com> |
Matt Paxton was not able to fix his gear in time to take off for
Brodhead so is staying behind. Jack Phillips blasted off after the fog
lifted:
"The fog is getting thicker."
"And Leon's getting larrrgerrr."
stop short of Brodhead and come in tomorrow, but one never knows. I had
my Cub up for an hour today. Interesting thermal activity in this 98
degree heat. I will try to take some pictures and post them tonight for
those who can't make it for Holy Week.
-john-
http://www.cafepress.com/half_fast
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com
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| Subject: | Water versus Laser cutting metal parts. |
| From: | "bubbleboy" <scott.dawson3(at)bigpond.com> |
Im organising the cutting of metal parts as we speak. I have sourced 4130 at a
wholesale price through a friend. I contacted a local laser cutter and asked if
it was something his machines could do. He said that being for an aircraft,
he thought it needed to be water cut and not laser cut. I know other builders
who have had their parts laser cut so it must be ok I would assume. Does laser
produce more heat and maybe that is where hes coming from?
Just wanted to put it out there and see what others thought before I go back to
him.
Scotty
--------
Tamworth, Australia
Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
www.scottyspietenpol.com
Rudder, Vert stab, Elevators and Ribs built...Building Horizontal stab...
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| Subject: | Made in time for dinner! |
| From: | gboothe5(at)comcast.net |
Met Shelly, Axel, Gary & Shad, Dan Helsper...Life is good!
Gary
Sent on the Sprint Now Network from my BlackBerry
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| Subject: | Re: Someone just arrived/parked at Brodhead!!! |
| From: | "TriScout" <apfelcyber(at)yahoo.com> |
Wow!... Following this post kinda makes me want to rent that old 60's movie..something..."magnificent
Flying something..something..flying machines " ..
I just assembled the GN1 I bought, but couldn't get the Annual scheduled on time
for me to make it this year. Just watched the Lindbergh (Jimmy Stewart) movie
and now am studying the feasibility of trying to non-stopper next year KLNC-C37
(800sm). I think a 35 gallon tank in the front hole with a hand-crank pump
might work. The issue would be oil burn on a 12hr flt. Hmm... interesting.
Larry
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| Subject: | Re: Someone just arrived/parked at Brodhead!!! |
| From: | Dan Yocum <yocum137(at)gmail.com> |
Don't forget potty breaks. And stretch breaks.
--
Dan Yocum
yocum137(at)gmail.com
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
On Jul 20, 2011, at 8:29 PM, "TriScout" wrote:
>
> Wow!... Following this post kinda makes me want to rent that old 60's movie..something..."magnificent
Flying something..something..flying machines " ..
>
> I just assembled the GN1 I bought, but couldn't get the Annual scheduled on time
for me to make it this year. Just watched the Lindbergh (Jimmy Stewart) movie
and now am studying the feasibility of trying to non-stopper next year KLNC-C37
(800sm). I think a 35 gallon tank in the front hole with a hand-crank
pump might work. The issue would be oil burn on a 12hr flt. Hmm... interesting.
Larry
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347246#347246
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>
>
>
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| From: | Jim Boyer <boyerjrb(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Engine Run Video |
Hi Gary,
You are probably in Brodhead now so will see you tomorrow. Arlene and I are in
Waterloo tonight and will be there around noon or just after tomorrow.
Cheers,
Jim B.
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| From: | "Clif Dawson" <cdawson5854(at)shaw.ca> |
| Subject: | Re: Someone just arrived/parked at Brodhead!!! |
Magnificent Men In Their Flying Machines.
Some really neat stuff and some cheesy crap.
Great airplanes though.
So if the crank is in the front seat and your in
the back............?
Clif
>
> Wow!... Following this post kinda makes me want to rent that old 60's
> movie..something..."magnificent Flying something..something..flying
> machines " ..
I think a 35 gallon tank in the front hole with a hand-crank pump might
work. The issue would be oil burn on a 12hr flt. Hmm... interesting. Larry
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Someone just arrived/parked at Brodhead!!! |
As one who just spent seven hours in the cockpit of a Pietenpol yesterday, I
would say the issue is not fuel, but how much abuse the pilot is willing to
take. I've done it in one day from North Carolina before (700 sm), leaving
at dawn and landing Brodhead just after sunset. I won't do it again.
Jack Phillips
Hoping to make Brodhead before noon today
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of TriScout
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 9:30 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Someone just arrived/parked at Brodhead!!!
Wow!... Following this post kinda makes me want to rent that old 60's
movie..something..."magnificent Flying something..something..flying machines
" ..
I just assembled the GN1 I bought, but couldn't get the Annual scheduled on
time for me to make it this year. Just watched the Lindbergh (Jimmy
Stewart) movie and now am studying the feasibility of trying to non-stopper
next year KLNC-C37 (800sm). I think a 35 gallon tank in the front hole with
a hand-crank pump might work. The issue would be oil burn on a 12hr flt.
Hmm... interesting. Larry
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347246#347246
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| From: | John Franklin <jbfjr(at)peoplepc.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Water versus Laser cutting metal parts. |
Scotty,
I had some metal brackets for my GN-1 cut on waterjet and I must say it is impressive
watching water cut steel! Even though it is extremely accurate (being
CNC controlled) it did leave microscopic grooves that I later smoothed out, fearing
that the grooves would be susceptible to cracking. Maybe those fears weren't
justified, I don't know.
The other experience was using a plasma cutter to rough cut a 1/8" bracket. When
I tried to cut the piece on a metal-cutting bandsaw, the blade wouldn't cut
through the edge because the plasma cutter had hardened the 4130. I would think
a laser would do the same hardening, but I don't know for sure. I had to
grind away the hardened part, but as the other poster said you could also anneal
it to remove the hardness.
Good Luck,
John Franklin
GN-1/Corvair in progress @ 4TA0
Texas
-----Original Message-----
>From: bubbleboy <scott.dawson3(at)bigpond.com>
>Sent: Jul 20, 2011 5:25 PM
>To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Water versus Laser cutting metal parts.
>
>
>Im organising the cutting of metal parts as we speak. I have sourced 4130 at a
wholesale price through a friend. I contacted a local laser cutter and asked
if it was something his machines could do. He said that being for an aircraft,
he thought it needed to be water cut and not laser cut. I know other builders
who have had their parts laser cut so it must be ok I would assume. Does laser
produce more heat and maybe that is where hes coming from?
>
>Just wanted to put it out there and see what others thought before I go back to
him.
>
>Scotty
>
>--------
>Tamworth, Australia
>Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
>
>www.scottyspietenpol.com
>
>Rudder, Vert stab, Elevators and Ribs built...Building Horizontal stab...
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347227#347227
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Water versus Laser cutting metal parts. |
| From: | "bubbleboy" <scott.dawson3(at)bigpond.com> |
Thanks Dave & John...what your saying makes sense. I have the guy looking at it
now so should know soon if he can help or not.
I appreciate your feedback.
Scotty
--------
Tamworth, Australia
Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
www.scottyspietenpol.com
Rudder, Vert stab, Elevators and Ribs built...Building Horizontal stab...
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347271#347271
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| Subject: | Re: Water versus Laser cutting metal parts. |
| From: | "womenfly2" <Love2Fly.KAP(at)gmail.com> |
Either will work fine.
The very fine grooves left by water jet cutting are really very tiny radii's and
not V-type sharp grooves as left by a band-saw blade.
A file drawn over the edges will smooth them out.
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| Subject: | Re: Continental Engine Questions |
| From: | "womenfly2" <Love2Fly.KAP(at)gmail.com> |
I would look and post over on the J3-Cub.com forum. They know pretty much everything
on the 0-200 and can point you in the right direction to answer your questions.
BTW: can you tell me a little about your 0-200?
--------
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| From: | Michael Perez <speedbrake(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | Milestone! (and a Question) |
While most of the buzz has been around planning, flying and getting to Brodhead,
I have spent my time meeting a major milestone on my build. Last week, Mike
C. was nice enough to come over and help me attach the wings. Since then, I now
have the plane in the garage, level/plumb, wings on and wing struts built and
attached. This is the most assembled the plane has ever been and I, as all of
you have been as well at this stage, am very, very excited!
This Sunday will be 3 years into the project so far.
My question...I have gone over and over the wing setup many times and I am 99.5%
convinced the wings are level...with the CS, with the fuselage and with each
other. Looking from the ground, they look level. But when I climb up on a step
ladder and look across the top of the wings, they appear to have some minor
dihedral. I actually want a little, but at this stage I was hoping that everything
would read/show and look level. Optical illusion, or am I missing something?
Thoughts?
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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| From: | "JerryGrogan" <jerry(at)SKYCLASSIC.NET> |
| Subject: | Water versus Laser cutting metal parts. |
We manufacture a lot of parts for airplanes and we use water jet only. The
reason is a laser will case harden the edge of the metal part. First when
you drill out a hole you will mess up a drill bit really bad. And if you
have to bend anything the edge will crack unless you polish it. I think you
could use laser and your parts would be just fine as far as stress. There
are just those drawbacks I talked about. I am building a Piet and we are
thinking of offering up some metal fittings for the piet. I will be at
Broadhead.
Thanks
Jerry Grogan
Sky Classic Aircraft
Des Moines, Ia
515-243-0094
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of bubbleboy
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 5:25 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Water versus Laser cutting metal parts.
Im organising the cutting of metal parts as we speak. I have sourced 4130 at
a wholesale price through a friend. I contacted a local laser cutter and
asked if it was something his machines could do. He said that being for an
aircraft, he thought it needed to be water cut and not laser cut. I know
other builders who have had their parts laser cut so it must be ok I would
assume. Does laser produce more heat and maybe that is where hes coming
from?
Just wanted to put it out there and see what others thought before I go back
to him.
Scotty
--------
Tamworth, Australia
Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
www.scottyspietenpol.com
Rudder, Vert stab, Elevators and Ribs built...Building Horizontal stab...
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347227#347227
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| Subject: | Re: Continental Engine Questions |
| From: | "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld(at)lacity.org> |
Jeff,
I have the same set up as you except mine is a C-85. I can't remember about the
starter gears, its been too long since I had the engine apart. Although I think
the starter gear was left in place behind the rear gear case. As far as the
auto gas goes. I have an all metal fuel system and a steel needle and seat
in the carb. The only rubber I have is aircraft quality Airquip hose between
the gascolater and the carb. I have not had any issues with that piece of hose.
The only actual issue I have with the auto gas is that the O-rings on the
fuel drains need to be replaced every annual due to swelling. That is it. I
don't worry about the fuel additives since it is too cold to fly above 9 or 10
thousand feet. Just put a little marvel mystery oil in the fuel occasionally
and all will be fine.
Hope this will help you, Happy Landings,
--------
Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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| Subject: | Re: Milestone! (and a Question) |
| From: | "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld(at)lacity.org> |
Pull a string across the top of the wing from tip to tip. That will tell all.
--------
Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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| From: | Michael Perez <speedbrake(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Milestone! (and a Question) |
WOW! That is a great idea...not sure why I didn't think of that before. Thanks!
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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| From: | "Steve Ruse" <steve(at)wotelectronics.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Milestone! (and a Question) |
You could tie a string to a rib at the end of one wing, then pull it tight
from the end of the other wing and see if there is a gap between the strin
g and ribs at the center section. Directly over the spar would probab
ly make it easier to see and/or measure.
Steve Ruse
Norman, OK
On Jul 21, 2011 8:55 AM, Michael Perez <speedbrake(at)sbcglobal.net> wro
te:
While most of the buzz has been around planning, flying and getting to Brod
head, I have spent my time meeting a major milestone on my build. Last week
, Mike C. was nice enough to come over and help me attach the wings. Since
then, I now have the plane in the garage, level/plumb, wings on and wing
struts built and attached. This is the most assembled the plane has ever
been and I, as all of you have been as well at this stage, am very, very
excited!
This Sunday will be 3 years into the project so far.
My question...I have gone over and over the wing setup many times and I am
99.5% convinced the wings are level...with the CS, with the fuselage and
with each other. Looking from the ground, they look level. But when I clim
b up on a step ladder and look across the top of the wings, they appear to
have some minor dihedral. I actually want a little, but
at this stage I was hoping that everything would read/show and look level.
Optical illusion, or am I missing something? Thoughts?
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Milestone! (and a Question) |
| From: | "TriScout" <apfelcyber(at)yahoo.com> |
As Doug Henning would put it; "Magic is Illusion..and Illusion can be Magical!"
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| Subject: | Re: Water versus Laser cutting metal parts. |
| From: | "aerocarjake" <flight.jake(at)gmail.com> |
I would be interested in purchasing water-jet metal fittings. I will not be at
Brodhead this year :-( but contacting on this board or e-mail is fine....
--------
Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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| Subject: | Contact Brodhead EAA chapter for me... |
| From: | "aerocarjake" <flight.jake(at)gmail.com> |
Could someone at Brodhead please contact the Brodhead EAA chapter treasurer for
me. I wrote them a modest check for their building campaign many months ago
and right away got a nice thank you letter back - but the check has never been
cashed....?!?!?!??
I want to make sure the funds go to their new hangar project.....
Thanks..........
--------
Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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| From: | steve(at)wotelectronics.com |
| Subject: | Re: Continental Engine Questions |
Jeff,
As Ryan was getting at, I think your main concern with ethanol is the
carburetor. You need to make sure the needle, float and seat will not be
affected by it. Some needles and floats may not be metal. Some of the
non-metal parts will be affected by ethanol, however some may not. My
experience is with the Strombergs, if you have a Marvel Schebler carb
things may be different.
Here is a link to a BUNCH of documents I've collected over the years
regarding carburetors for small Continentals. Much of this will apply to
your O-200, some may not. You can probably find the answer to your
questions in these documents:
http://www.wotelectronics.com/airplane/Carburetor/
Gaskets may be affected by ethanol...some people would probably say
that the gaskets WILL be affected over time by ethanol.
Ethanol may also increase the likelyhood of carb ice due to a greater
temperature drop when it evaporates. See the link below from
sacskyranch, which is choc full of good information. If the information
you need isn't on this website, it probably doesn't exist:
http://www.sacskyranch.com/crbice.htm
Steve Ruse
Norman, OK
> Hey Guys and Gals,
>
> Here's a couple technical questions for those of you not pre-occupied
> with the Brodhead reunion this year.
>
> Question #1- We have mounted a 0-200 on our chapter Piet and removed
> the
>
> alternator and starter. We have covered the the alternator mount with
> aluminum plate and plan to do the same over the starter cavity. But
> here is the question, there is oil pumped to the starter gears, if we
> remove
> the gears and cover the hole, will that cause an oil pressure drop
> because that oil channel isn't hitting any resistance?
>
> Question #2- Where can we find a DIY guide for running this engine on
> Auto gas. Around
> here the only auto gas we can get includes 10% Ethanol. We're good
> with
>
> the fuel tank and line. Its all aluminum with brass fittings.
>
> Jeff Wilson
> Chapter 64
> KCPS
>
> WEB
LIST
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| Subject: | Re: Continental Engine Questions |
| From: | "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld(at)lacity.org> |
Steve,
That's some pretty cool stuff.
--------
Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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| Subject: | Re: Water versus Laser cutting metal parts. |
| From: | "899PM" <rockriverrifle(at)hotmail.com> |
Jerry is 100% correct. Use waterjet.
--------
PAPA MIKE
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| From: | "Charles Campbell" <cncampbell(at)windstream.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Milestone! (and a Question) |
Michael, I would suggest renting a surveyor's transit. That will tell
you definately whether the wings are level or have some dihedral and how
much, if any. Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Perez
To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 9:47 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Milestone! (and a Question)
While most of the buzz has been around planning, flying and
getting to Brodhead, I have spent my time meeting a major milestone on
my build. Last week, Mike C. was nice enough to come over and help me
attach the wings. Since then, I now have the plane in the garage,
level/plumb, wings on and wing struts built and attached. This is the
most assembled the plane has ever been and I, as all of you have been as
well at this stage, am very, very excited!
This Sunday will be 3 years into the project so far.
My question...I have gone over and over the wing setup many
times and I am 99.5% convinced the wings are level...with the CS, with
the fuselage and with each other. Looking from the ground, they look
level. But when I climb up on a step ladder and look across the top of
the wings, they appear to have some minor dihedral. I actually want a
little, but at this stage I was hoping that everything would read/show
and look level. Optical illusion, or am I missing something? Thoughts?
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Charles Campbell" <cncampbell(at)windstream.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Milestone! (and a Question) |
I guess the string bit would be a lot cheaper than renting a transit.
Good luck. Sounds like you are pretty close to covering. Wish I were
that far along. Just finishing my right wing. Left wing should be a
lot faster -- I'm learning what to do on the right one. Fuselage is
about half finished. Still need to build up the landing gear and engine
mount. Maybe I can make it to Brodhead next year. C
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Perez
To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Milestone! (and a Question)
WOW! That is a great idea...not sure why I didn't think of that
before. Thanks!
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Charles Campbell" <cncampbell(at)windstream.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Milestone! (and a Question) |
Incidentally, Michael, how about some pictures?
----- Original Message -----
From: "TriScout" <apfelcyber(at)yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 11:14 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Milestone! (and a Question)
>
> As Doug Henning would put it; "Magic is Illusion..and Illusion can be
> Magical!"
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347305#347305
>
>
>
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| From: | Jim Markle <jim_markle(at)mindspring.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Milestone! (and a Question) |
You could also build a bunyip (water level). It's cheap and you can re-use it
to level and re-level whenever you want!
There are a lot of Youtube videos explaining how to do it....
Here's one:
http://youtu.be/pRjNA0DZZb4
-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Campbell
Sent: Jul 21, 2011 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Milestone! (and a Question)
Michael, I would suggest renting a surveyor's
transit. That will tell you definately whether the wings are level or have
some dihedral and how much, if any. Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From:
Michael Perez
To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 9:47
AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Milestone! (and
a Question)
While most of the buzz has been around planning, flying
and getting to Brodhead, I have spent my time meeting a major milestone
on my build. Last week, Mike C. was nice enough to come over and help me
attach the wings. Since then, I now have the plane in the garage,
level/plumb, wings on and wing struts built and attached. This is the
most assembled the plane has ever been and I, as all of you have been as
well at this stage, am very, very excited!
This Sunday will be 3
years into the project so far.
My question...I have gone over and
over the wing setup many times and I am 99.5% convinced the wings are
level...with the CS, with the fuselage and with each other. Looking from
the ground, they look level. But when I climb up on a step ladder and
look across the top of the wings, they appear to have some minor
dihedral. I actually want a little, but at this stage I was hoping that
everything would read/show and look level. Optical illusion, or am I
missing something? Thoughts?
Michael
Perez
Karetaker
Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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| From: | KM Heide CPO/FAAOP <kmheidecpo(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Water versus Laser cutting metal parts. |
Agreed. Count me in on the part list also!
KMHeide
--- On Thu, 7/21/11, aerocarjake wrote:
> From: aerocarjake <flight.jake(at)gmail.com>
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Water versus Laser cutting metal parts.
> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
> Date: Thursday, July 21, 2011, 10:41 AM
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted
> by: "aerocarjake"
>
> I would be interested in purchasing water-jet metal
> fittings. I will not be at Brodhead this year :-( but
> contacting on this board or e-mail is fine....
>
> --------
> Jake Schultz - curator,
> Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Water versus Laser cutting metal parts. |
| From: | "bubbleboy" <scott.dawson3(at)bigpond.com> |
Looking back through the archives many have mentioned they were going to offer
metal part packs but other than Ken Perkins, none have eventuated. I know people
say that it cant be done as no two Piets are the same but there are parts that
will fit all and a few that maybe wont.
Scotty
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Tamworth, Australia
Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
www.scottyspietenpol.com
Rudder, Vert stab, Elevators and Ribs built...Building Horizontal stab...
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| From: | John Kuhfahl <kuhlcouper(at)gmail.com> |
Anyone have any info on repair for this radio.? As some may know, NARCO
used to do it but went out of business. I was told not to ship it back to
Australia.
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John Kuhfahl, Lt Col USAF (Ret),
President, KUHLCOUPER LLC
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| Subject: | Re: Milestone! (and a Question) |
| From: | "Pieti Lowell" <Lowellcfrank(at)yahoo.com> |
Mike
I have a Lazar in an old level. It works good enough to check dihedral,
Pieti Lowell
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| Subject: | Re: Made in time for dinner! |
| From: | "bender" <jfaith(at)solairusaviation.com> |
man i'm jealous..
i had the motorcycle ready for a little run to brodhead and have a snag..
the jet i work on got hit by a truck in DC... had to jump on a plane to check it
out .... now stuck here till we find a new flap.. then ferry to wichita and
who knows how long there...
look forward to pics and video..look forward to meeting you guys someday
jeff
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| Subject: | Re: Water versus Laser cutting metal parts. |
| From: | "womenfly2" <Love2Fly.KAP(at)gmail.com> |
Why most metal fittings do not fit after bring made is largely do to the incorrect
bend allowance for a given thickness when laid out in the flat. Also the I
found that if you copy the fittings from the drawing you will find fit errors.
I have started a 3D CAD Model of the Pietenpol for a full set of highly detailed
plans, down to the fittings in the flat. Set to be finished end of this year.
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| Subject: | Re: Continental Engine Questions |
| From: | "skellytown flyer" <skellflyer1(at)yahoo.com> |
as for the oil pressure I'm pretty sure you would be losing a fair amount if the
hole is left open. why could you not make a stub shaft or eve a hollow tube-the
diameter of the old shaft welded to the cover plate just long enough to fill
the bushing and stop that loss? Raymond
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| Subject: | Re: Water versus Laser cutting metal parts. |
| From: | mark lee <mlmarkelee7(at)gmail.com> |
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 4:55 AM, womenfly2 wrote:
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> Why most metal fittings do not fit after bring made is largely do to the
> incorrect bend allowance for a given thickness when laid out in the flat.
> Also the I found that if you copy the fittings from the drawing you will
> find fit errors.
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> I have started a 3D CAD Model of the Pietenpol for a full set of highly
> detailed plans, down to the fittings in the flat. Set to be finished end of
> this year.
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| From: | Michael Perez <speedbrake(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Milestone! (and a Question) |
Yes, I have a few bubble levels, digital angle meter, etc. They all do well
for this application.
Michael Perez
=0AKaretaker Aero
=0Awww.karetakeraero.com
--- On Thu, 7/21/11, Pieti Lowell wrote:
From: Pieti Lowell <Lowellcfrank(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Milestone! (and a Question)
Date: Thursday, July 21, 2011, 10:24 PM
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Mike
I have a Lazar in an old level. It works good enough to check dihedral,
Pieti Lowell
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| From: | "TOM STINEMETZE" <TOMS(at)mcpcity.com> |
John:
There is a section on warranty and repairs on the XCOM website. (see link
below)
http://www.mcp.com.au/xcom760/warranty/warranty.html
This link also contains contact information for technical support and
avionics service. A USA phone number is also on this page for us "up
over" types. Luckily I haven't had to use any of this information yet.
Tom Stinemetze
N328X (wannabe - one of these days)
>>> John Kuhfahl 7/21/2011 5:08 PM >>>
Anyone have any info on repair for this radio.? As some may know, NARCO
used to do it but went out of business. I was told not to ship it back to
Australia.
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John Kuhfahl, Lt Col USAF (Ret),
President, KUHLCOUPER LLC
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| From: | "Charles Campbell" <cncampbell(at)windstream.net> |
| Subject: | Fw: Wantabee Bush Pilot ??????????? |
Anybody have a Piet that can perform like this?
----- Original Message -----
From: Sid
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 4:55 PM
Subject: Fwd: Wantabee Bush Pilot ???????????
-----Original Message-----
Subject: bush pilots' Annual Valdez STOL Competition
The length of a Cub is 27=99 7=9D. Note the landing
distance for several of these guys is less than the length of a Cub. How
long is your driveway?.. J
http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=133255
Joe LoMonaco
PO Box 241966
Anchorage, AK 99524
(907) 786-7315 (Office)
(907) 441-0571 (Cell)
Good Stick work...This demonstrates what how great bush pilots
have to be. They would make great carrier guys.
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| Subject: | Re: Wantabee Bush Pilot ??????????? |
| From: | "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld(at)lacity.org> |
Chuck,
I don't see a link
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Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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| Subject: | Re: Wantabee Bush Pilot ??????????? |
| From: | "Jerry Dotson" <jdotson(at)centurylink.net> |
Mine does Chuck. This is as close as mine has come to flying so far. 1 bolt in
the prop,no covering and a temporary engine mount. Wish I was at
Brodhead.........sigh Looks like they may have had some rain.
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Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rolling
using Lycoming O-235
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| Subject: | Re: Contact Brodhead EAA chapter for me... |
| From: | "aerocarjake" <flight.jake(at)gmail.com> |
Hey... the check cleared today....!!! Hope the hangar project goes well...
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Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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| Subject: | Re: Wantabee Bush Pilot ??????????? |
| From: | "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld(at)lacity.org> |
Jerry,
It looks great. Keep up the good work.
I'll be out of touch for three weeks. I'll be on an RV trip. No, not a plane,
a 5th wheel. I'll catch up on all the news when I return.
Happy Landings,
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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| From: | "Charles Campbell" <cncampbell(at)windstream.net> |
| Subject: | Fw: Wantabee Bush Pilot ??????????? |
OK! I'll try again.
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| Subject: | Re: Water versus Laser cutting metal parts. |
| From: | "bubbleboy" <scott.dawson3(at)bigpond.com> |
Hi womenfly2.....yes I agree with what your saying and look forward to seeing what
you came up with. Surely if someone could make the metal parts in bulk it
would have to be cheaper as you would get a better deal when buying materials
in bulk. Obviously labour is added to that but someone like me who is time poor
due to family commitments, I would rather buy these parts ready made and get
flying sooner than struggle through wasting time sourcing materials and doing
it etc. Its a fine line and judging by other responses here, im not the only
one.
Even supplying the parts flat and undrilled so each individual can bend and drill
what needs bending and drilling to fit their own project.
As an example, the prices I obtained for 4130N are as much as $45 a sq/foot here
in Australia. How does that compare with the USA?
Scotty
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Tamworth, Australia
Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
www.scottyspietenpol.com
Rudder, Vert stab, Elevators and Ribs built...Building Horizontal stab...
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| From: | "Jack" <jack(at)textors.com> |
| Subject: | Brodhead Brat Lunch |
Posted pictures on my face book page, hook up and take a look
Jack Textor
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| From: | "Scott Knowlton " <flyingscott_k(at)hotmail.com> |
This will be my fourth Brodhead in a row I have missed after attending 3 in 04,
06 and 07. I'm not looking for anyone's pity about my plight as my lack of attendance
has everything to do with my own career choices. Nevertheless, I am
hopeful that those who are fortunate enough to be there this weekend might take
a moment or two to post their observations. As a Piet builder and avid reader
of this list and an infrequent writer I, like most, feel a strong kinship
to the builders and fliers of the Pietenpol and hope some of you will be my eyes
and ears on the field.
How many Pietenpols are there? What forums are being offered, how's the weather,
the food, the mosquitos etc...
Just a quick post on your macdonalds coffee run or when picking up ice at the piggly
wiggly, and a picture or two would be greatly appeciated. Things are too
quiet!
Scott Knowlton
Burlington Ontario Canada
Ribs and tailgroup built... Working on centre section
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead Brat Lunch |
| From: | "BYD" <billsayre(at)ymail.com> |
Jack,
I'd love to see the pictures but to do so we must be friends on Facebook. Unfortunately,
your privacy settings don't allow me to request becoming a friend so
this isn't possible.
I realize you're busy at Brodhead and don't have the time (I wouldn't) but if you
could relocate the pictures or open your account, I'd love to see your pictures.
Bill
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead Brat Lunch |
| From: | "jarheadpilot82" <jarheadpilot82(at)hotmail.com> |
Jack,
Ditto what Bill said.
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Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
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| Subject: | Live From Brodhead II |
| From: | Wayne Bressler <wayne(at)taildraggersinc.com> |
Sorry, I just got here and don't really know who's who. I recognize all the
planes, though!
Jack Phillips, Dan Helsper, Shad Bell, Dick Navr(...sp?), Ryan Mueller, and a
whole bunch more are here, judging as their planes are here.
Wayne Bressler
Taildraggers, Inc.
www.taildraggersinc.com