Pietenpol-Archive.digest.vol-mt
July 14, 2013 - August 02, 2013
Pietenpol-Archive.digest.vol-mt
July 14, 2013 - August 02, 2013
two arms, and it has been fine for the last 8 years.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of l.morlock
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: New Spar In Place
Gary, I'm interested to know why you are abandoning the A-frame tail wheel
and going to a "bonafide tailwheel," which I presume would extend beyond the
end of the fuselage.
I was thinking of doing just the opposite. Last Thursday, I managed to do a
groundloop while doing a high speed taxi on a hard surface taxiway. My
"bonafide tailwheel," turned out to be a 14 inch lever that broke the
tailpost when it went off the taxiway. My first thought was to replace it
with an A-frame, then I saw your posting????
Other thoughts on my groundloop:
1. The rudder is less effective than I would have thought at low speeds.
2. A Pietenpol really likes grass.
Do you want to sell your A-frame?
Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Boothe <mailto:gboothe5(at)comcast.net>
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 10:10 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: New Spar In Place
My wing rebuild is progressing slowly, taking back seat to moving OUT and
moving IN.but there is some progress. New spar is in place! I am also
removing the BHP A-frame tailwheel and replacing with a spring and bona-fide
tailwheel. Today, generous locals brought me a used Scott, full-swivel
tailwheel and a brand new set of springs!
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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Subject: Wing Struts
From: "TriScout" <apfelcyber(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Jul 14, 2013
Just a quick fyi..
One of my colleagues has a spare set of wing struts for a Piper J-5. Don't know
if these would be modifiable for a builder on this forum, or if someone is interested.
He lives out on long island, ny. I'd leave his cell phone here, but
not sure if its proper to do that on a forum though..
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L.Metzel
KLNC
A65-8
N2308C
AN Hardware
Airframe 712TT
W72CK-42 Sensenich
Standard Factory GN-1
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Subject: Re: Wing Struts
From: "TriScout" <apfelcyber(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Jul 14, 2013
.....if interested in talking to him, pm me for his info..
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L.Metzel
KLNC
A65-8
N2308C
AN Hardware
Airframe 712TT
W72CK-42 Sensenich
Standard Factory GN-1
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Subject: all-Piet issue of Contact!
From: "taildrags" <taildrags(at)hotmail.com>
Date: Jul 14, 2013
Hello, low 'n' slow fliers;
Pat Panzera, editor of Contact! magazine, is considering an all-Piet issue of the
magazine if we can assemble enough articles to fill an issue. I'm sure we
can. Contact! is somewhat engine-oriented and 100% technical content, and my
thought is that the Air Camper has been powered by so many different engines that
it shouldn't be any problem at all getting some articles together for the
magazine. I think the most exciting new Air Camper just about to hatch is Chris
Rusch's Mitsubishi-powered airplane, and I'd like to feature that one in the
magazine but there are numerous other innovative ones out there. Of course
Dick Navratil's Rotec radial powered airplane is unique and would have plenty
of technical details of interest in how he adapted the engine to the airframe.
There are some recently-completed and completely authentic Ford-powered Piets
that would be of interest to others as far as the details of the conversion
and build nowadays vs. what the original Pietenpol conversion drawings suggested.
We might even go back to some of the other one-off Piets such as the Ford
Fiesta powered one that appeared back in the November 1980 issue of Sport Aviation.
Which, by the way, does anybody have any information on? Is it still
around?
Put on your thinking caps and email me off-line if you think you can put together
a technical article related to Piets (and in particular, powerplants for them).
The design will be 85 years old in 2014, so maybe we can get the issue together
to celebrate that milestone early next year.
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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Subject: Re: all-Piet issue of Contact!
From: Scott Knowlton <flyingscott_k(at)hotmail.com>
Date: Jul 15, 2013
How timely Oscar. This past weekend I flew in to Lubitz field near Toronto Ontario.
Ed Lubitz retired as a pilot from my airline in 1999. He is an aerospace
engineer and designed a PSRU and other modifications for a Ford Escorte engine
that he flies behind in his Pietenpol. I was fascinated by the simplicity of
his design and how nicely it cowls (similar in weight to the Model A so it can
be kept pretty close to the firewall).
I wouldn't mind submitting an article about his design and whereabouts. He's a
great guy and good friend to aviation and the home builder.
Scott Knowlton
Burlington, Ontario
Sent from my iPhone
On 2013-07-14, at 11:41 PM, "taildrags" wrote:
>
> Hello, low 'n' slow fliers;
>
> Pat Panzera, editor of Contact! magazine, is considering an all-Piet issue of
the magazine if we can assemble enough articles to fill an issue. I'm sure we
can. Contact! is somewhat engine-oriented and 100% technical content, and my
thought is that the Air Camper has been powered by so many different engines
that it shouldn't be any problem at all getting some articles together for the
magazine. I think the most exciting new Air Camper just about to hatch is Chris
Rusch's Mitsubishi-powered airplane, and I'd like to feature that one in
the magazine but there are numerous other innovative ones out there. Of course
Dick Navratil's Rotec radial powered airplane is unique and would have plenty
of technical details of interest in how he adapted the engine to the airframe.
There are some recently-completed and completely authentic Ford-powered Piets
that would be of interest to others as far as the details of the conversion
and build nowadays vs. what the original Pietenpol c!
> onversion drawings suggested. We might even go back to some of the other one-off
Piets such as the Ford Fiesta powered one that appeared back in the November
1980 issue of Sport Aviation. Which, by the way, does anybody have any information
on? Is it still around?
>
> Put on your thinking caps and email me off-line if you think you can put together
a technical article related to Piets (and in particular, powerplants for
them). The design will be 85 years old in 2014, so maybe we can get the issue
together to celebrate that milestone early next year.
>
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> Oscar Zuniga
> Medford, OR
> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
> A75 power
>
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>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404691#404691
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From: "l.morlock" <l.morlock(at)att.net>
Subject: Re: New Spar In Place
Date: Jul 15, 2013
Gary, thanks a bunch for your offer of the A-frame. I think I'll take
you up on that. Now I need to find a way to help someone else as
generously as you have helped me and many others !!! I plan to be at
Brodhead in a couple of weeks, so will at least re-imburse you for the
shipping cost.
My address is:
3407 Woodland Place
Columbus, IN 47203
Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Boothe
To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 10:58 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: New Spar In Place
Ha! The Quest for the Perfect Tailwheel! You may as well ask what's
better? Republican or Democrat? Catholic or Protestant? Cake or pie?
It's Bernouli's Principle of Tailwheels: "The number of opinions you
get varies directly with the number of people you talk to."
I would let Kevin chime in for himself, but he replaced his A-frame
with a spring after about 25 hrs. Looking thru www.Westcoastpiet.com,
you will also see a wide variation. In my case, part of the problem is
how I designed my whole rudder pedal set up and linkage to the rudder
and tailwheel. Moving the tailwheel back will allow me to connect to the
rudder with a rudder horn, eliminating one problem. My only concern is
the added stress to the rudder hinges. Obviously, careful thought needs
to go into attaching the springs without adding too much weight.
I'm very sorry to hear of your misfortune, Larry, and hope the repair
goes smoothly. My A-frame is certainly NOT for sale, but, if you send me
a shipping address, you find it on your doorstep one day soon!
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Phillips
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 7:23 AM
To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: New Spar In Place
Larry, I agree with you. I had a "Bonafide" tailwheel on a leaf
spring. When I had my forced landing which culminated in a broken axle
and groundloop, the tailwheel acted as a 14" lever and cracked my lower
right longeron. I went to the A-Frame design after that. I first made
it to the Pietenpol plans for the tailskid and just added the mount for
a tailwheel. I found that the A-Frame with no reinforcing was too
flexible and the tailwheel could twist the frame, rather than turn the
airplane. I modified it by going to thicker walled tubing and adding a
cross piece between the two arms, and it has been fine for the last 8
years.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
l.morlock
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 10:14 AM
To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: New Spar In Place
Gary, I'm interested to know why you are abandoning the A-frame tail
wheel and going to a "bonafide tailwheel," which I presume would extend
beyond the end of the fuselage.
I was thinking of doing just the opposite. Last Thursday, I managed
to do a groundloop while doing a high speed taxi on a hard surface
taxiway. My "bonafide tailwheel," turned out to be a 14 inch lever that
broke the tailpost when it went off the taxiway. My first thought was
to replace it with an A-frame, then I saw your posting????
Other thoughts on my groundloop:
1. The rudder is less effective than I would have thought at low
speeds.
2. A Pietenpol really likes grass.
Do you want to sell your A-frame?
Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Boothe
To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 10:10 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: New Spar In Place
My wing rebuild is progressing slowly, taking back seat to moving
OUT and moving IN.but there is some progress. New spar is in place! I am
also removing the BHP A-frame tailwheel and replacing with a spring and
bona-fide tailwheel. Today, generous locals brought me a used Scott,
full-swivel tailwheel and a brand new set of springs!
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: Who's flying to Brodhead and who's not?
Date: Jul 15, 2013
Been hearing of a few planes which aren't gonna make Brodhead this year and
was wondering who is planning on flying up and who is having to drop out?
Weather permitting, "RE-PIET" will be there.
Douwe
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From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: Temporary hanger space at Brodhead
Date: Jul 15, 2013
Hey all,
I MIGHT have a little jam that I'd need help with.
As some of you know, we're hosting a 10-year-old Ukranian orphan for the
summer. He'll be driving up with Marci to meet me, and hopefully enjoying
the event. He's an awesome kid and the experience has been great for us
all.
Problem is, he has to be on a plane at Columbus on Monday and I need/want to
be there to see him off, as he's really bonded with me.
IF the WX turns iffy and it looks like I might be delayed getting home, I
thought of locating a hanger space where I could park RE-PIET while I drive
down with Marci to see him off, and come back and get the plane in a week or
three.
Anybody have contacts at Brodhead whom I could speak with? Or any ideas??
Douwe
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From: "Jack Phillips" <jack(at)bedfordlandings.com>
Subject: Who's flying to Brodhead and who's not?
Date: Jul 15, 2013
Weather permitting, "Icarus Plummet" will be there.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Douwe
Blumberg
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 9:20 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Who's flying to Brodhead and who's not?
Been hearing of a few planes which aren't gonna make Brodhead this year and
was wondering who is planning on flying up and who is having to drop out?
Weather permitting, "RE-PIET" will be there.
Douwe
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Date: Jul 15, 2013
Subject: Re: Who's flying to Brodhead and who's not?
From: Marcus Zechini <marcus.zechini(at)gmail.com>
Work has hampered my planning efforts, but I am still planning on going.
MAybe with group from Virginia.
Jack doesn't know it, but I may try a trip to Smith Mtn Lake this coming
wekend as a test run.
Zeke
NX431LA
GN-1
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Douwe Blumberg wrote:
> Been hearing of a few planes which aren=92t gonna make Brodhead this yea
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> and was wondering who is planning on flying up and who is having to drop
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From: "Jack Phillips" <jack(at)bedfordlandings.com>
Subject: Who's flying to Brodhead and who's not?
Date: Jul 15, 2013
Cool! Come on over. I'll be here.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marcus
Zechini
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Who's flying to Brodhead and who's not?
Work has hampered my planning efforts, but I am still planning on going.
MAybe with group from Virginia.
Jack doesn't know it, but I may try a trip to Smith Mtn Lake this coming
wekend as a test run.
Zeke
NX431LA
GN-1
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Douwe Blumberg
wrote:
Been hearing of a few planes which aren't gonna make Brodhead this year and
was wondering who is planning on flying up and who is having to drop out?
Weather permitting, "RE-PIET" will be there.
Douwe
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Date: Jul 15, 2013
Subject: Painting, step 1
From: Ken Bickers <bickers.ken(at)gmail.com>
Yesterday, I framed up a booth for doing some painting. Still some work to
go to brace it, enclose it, and fit it out with lights, etc. But squirting
paint is in the near future. Cheers, Ken
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Date: Jul 15, 2013
From: gliderx5(at)comcast.net
Subject: Re: Who's flying to Brodhead and who's not?
I plan on flying in friday afternoon, weather permitting, and leaving sunda
y morning for oshkosh.=C2- I will be in the Titan Tornado as the Piet is
not quite done yet.
Malcolm Morrison
----- Original Message -----
From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg(at)earthlink.net>
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 9:19:51 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Who's flying to Brodhead and who's not?
Been hearing of a few planes which aren=99t gonna make Brodhead this
year and was wondering who is planning on flying up and who is having to dr
op out?
=C2-
Weather permitting, =9CRE-PIET=9D will be there.
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From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Painting, step 1
Date: Jul 15, 2013
That's a nice hangar, Ken!
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ken Bickers
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 7:44 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Painting, step 1
Yesterday, I framed up a booth for doing some painting. Still some work to
go to brace it, enclose it, and fit it out with lights, etc. But squirting
paint is in the near future. Cheers, Ken
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Date: Jul 15, 2013
Subject: Re: Painting, step 1
From: Ken Bickers <bickers.ken(at)gmail.com>
Thanks. We've moved the Pacer to a friend's hangar for the next few months
to provide more workspace for the Pietenpol project. I'm liking not
banging my head into the Pacer's wing every third trip around the Piet.
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Gary Boothe wrote:
> That=92s a nice hangar, Ken!****
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> *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Bickers
> *Sent:* Monday, July 15, 2013 7:44 AM
> *To:* pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
> *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: Painting, step 1****
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> Yesterday, I framed up a booth for doing some painting. Still some work
> to go to brace it, enclose it, and fit it out with lights, etc. But
> squirting paint is in the near future. Cheers, Ken****
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Date: Jul 15, 2013
Subject: Re: Painting, step 1
From: Rick Holland <at7000ft(at)gmail.com>
Nice Ken, I used my driveway and a long rope to strung up to hang smaller
parts. It will be nice not being at the mercy of the wind and bugs. Which
kind of paint are you using?
rick
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Ken Bickers wrote:
> Yesterday, I framed up a booth for doing some painting. Still some work
> to go to brace it, enclose it, and fit it out with lights, etc. But
> squirting paint is in the near future. Cheers, Ken
>
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Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
NX6819Z
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Subject: Re: Painting, step 1
From: "Pilot78" <wings.wheels29(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Jul 15, 2013
Nice booth Ken, I did something similar for my Taylorcraft inside my hangar. I
built 8x8 panels and then stretched plastic over each panel then screwed them
together. After it was built I put down several paint tarps on the floor. It
worked out pretty good. Several guys on the airport have used it since, now it
is disassemble and stored until I need it for the Piet.
Brian
SLC-UT
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From: Ray Krause <raykrause(at)frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: Continental Conn Rod Bolts
Date: Jul 15, 2013
Tom,
I would like to get a set for my A-65. Please let me know the details. Sorry for
the delay in responding, I was on vacation.
Thanks,
Ray Krause
Raykrause@ frontiernet.net
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 10, 2013, at 11:28 AM, "tkreiner" wrote:
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> If you have a small Continental, i.e., an A or C series engine, even an O-200,
this may be of interest to you. We're offering this to the Piet list members
first, EAA 302 members second (my EAA Chapter), and plan to list any remaining
items on eBay after OSH.
>
> Continental P/N 530213 is the replacement Conn Rod Bolt for all of the above
referenced engines (also used on some engines that are quite a bit larger and
generally not used on a Piet.) My IA has recommended that because I don't know
the history of my engine... it would be very wise to replace these.
>
> About half the bolts are packed in the paper/foil US procurement bags, and are
NOS items from Fed Surplus. New, unused, unwrapped. The other half are in single
bags, and/or unbagged, as we've opened a few to see what was inside.
>
> After a net search, we've found that the sellers with the $12 item cost generally
don't have stock... and the most available parts are around $16 each.
>
> Since the sealed bags hold 10 pieces, we're offering them for $100., which is
only $10. per bolt. The loose bolts will also be the same cost. I will be prepared
to bring these to Brodhead, to save on shipping costs, if you're interested.
>
> Supply is limited, so if you need any, PM me ASAP.
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Date: Jul 15, 2013
Subject: Re: Painting, step 1
From: Ken Bickers <bickers.ken(at)gmail.com>
Stewart system primer. For color coats, we're going to experiment with
Benjamin Moore Aura Latex sprayed on. If that doesn't work out
satisfactorily, we'll shift back to the Stewart topcoat system. I've made
a bunch of test panels (actually I just re-covered a bunch of old chair
seats using ceconite) to test the paint process before having to commit.
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Rick Holland wrote:
> Nice Ken, I used my driveway and a long rope to strung up to hang smaller
> parts. It will be nice not being at the mercy of the wind and bugs. Which
> kind of paint are you using?
>
> rick
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Ken Bickers wrote:
>
>> Yesterday, I framed up a booth for doing some painting. Still some work
>> to go to brace it, enclose it, and fit it out with lights, etc. But
>> squirting paint is in the near future. Cheers, Ken
>>
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> --
> Rick Holland
> Castle Rock, Colorado
> NX6819Z
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Date: Jul 15, 2013
Subject: Re: Painting, step 1
From: Rick Holland <at7000ft(at)gmail.com>
Just about what I did, used the "Bell method" one cross coat of latex
primer and two cross coats of latex satin finish coat (Sherwin Williams
Superpaint mixed with the Flowtrol). I brushed the fuselage then sprayed
the wings and tail. Went on fine using both methods. And that is a great
idea test covering and painting an old lawn chair frame, I think I will do
that and use it in my hanger, will be a great conversation piece.
rick
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Ken Bickers wrote:
> Stewart system primer. For color coats, we're going to experiment with
> Benjamin Moore Aura Latex sprayed on. If that doesn't work out
> satisfactorily, we'll shift back to the Stewart topcoat system. I've made
> a bunch of test panels (actually I just re-covered a bunch of old chair
> seats using ceconite) to test the paint process before having to commit.
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Rick Holland wrote:
>
>> Nice Ken, I used my driveway and a long rope to strung up to hang smaller
>> parts. It will be nice not being at the mercy of the wind and bugs. Which
>> kind of paint are you using?
>>
>> rick
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Ken Bickers wrote:
>>
>>> Yesterday, I framed up a booth for doing some painting. Still some work
>>> to go to brace it, enclose it, and fit it out with lights, etc. But
>>> squirting paint is in the near future. Cheers, Ken
>>>
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>> --
>> Rick Holland
>> Castle Rock, Colorado
>> NX6819Z
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Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
NX6819Z
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Subject: Re: all-Piet issue of Contact!
From: "taildrags" <taildrags(at)hotmail.com>
Date: Jul 15, 2013
Scott; thanks a million! I'll post this reply to the list and not just to you
individually since the same general comment will apply no matter what the technical
topic: by all means, assemble any information you can get on the Lubitz
Escort conversion! Write the piece, get photos, do the interview... and send
it along! No matter whether the "special" Piet issue becomes reality or not,
this type of story is always of interest, and it sparks creative thinking. Run
with it!
I'm also thinking that Greg Bacon/John Dilatush's "Mountain Piet" would be a prime
candidate for write-up as well. I don't know of any other turbocharged Subaru
Air Campers out there!
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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Subject: Re: all-Piet issue of Contact!
From: Scott Knowlton <flyingscott_k(at)hotmail.com>
Date: Jul 15, 2013
Good stuff. Will do. This is what home building and experimenting is all about.
Scott
Sent from my iPhone
On 2013-07-15, at 12:25 PM, "taildrags" wrote:
>
> Scott; thanks a million! I'll post this reply to the list and not just to you
individually since the same general comment will apply no matter what the technical
topic: by all means, assemble any information you can get on the Lubitz
Escort conversion! Write the piece, get photos, do the interview... and send
it along! No matter whether the "special" Piet issue becomes reality or not,
this type of story is always of interest, and it sparks creative thinking.
Run with it!
>
> I'm also thinking that Greg Bacon/John Dilatush's "Mountain Piet" would be a
prime candidate for write-up as well. I don't know of any other turbocharged
Subaru Air Campers out there!
>
> --------
> Oscar Zuniga
> Medford, OR
> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
> A75 power
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Date: Jul 15, 2013
Subject: Re: Upcoming Corvair Colleges
From: Rick Holland <at7000ft(at)gmail.com>
Dick
You are not thinking about building a third Piet, this time with a Corvair
are you?
rick h
On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 9:33 PM, Dick N wrote:
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> Kevin
> I also heard there is another onr coming to Oshkosh in October. I am
> planning on going to that one it it happens.
> Dick N.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee(at)us.army.mil
> >
> To:
> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 9:43 AM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Upcoming Corvair Colleges
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>> kevin.purtee(at)us.army.mil>
>>
>> If you're thinking about using a Corvair then you should strongly
>> consider attending a college.
>>
>> CC26 will be in Mexico, MO 18-20 Sep 13.
>> CC27 will be in Barnwell, SC 8-10 Nov 13.
>> CC28 will be in San Marcos, TX 28 Feb-2 Mar 14.
>>
>> Shelley has made Facebook pages for each event. We're hosting the TX
>> event so CC28's page will be updated frequently. She'll update the other
>> two events as she gets information. You can also contact Zenith Aircraft
>> for information on CC26 & PF Beck for CC27.
>>
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>> Kevin "Axel" Purtee
>> Rebuilding NX899KP
>> Austin/San Marcos, TX
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Castle Rock, Colorado
NX6819Z
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Subject: Re: Painting, step 1
From: "John Francis" <Mrkringles(at)msn.com>
Date: Jul 15, 2013
Very nice Ken! I would like to see how you complete it.
John
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Date: Jul 15, 2013
Subject: Re: Painting, step 1
From: Ken Bickers <bickers.ken(at)gmail.com>
John, me too :) I'll send reports as things progress. Cheers, Ken
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:03 AM, John Francis wrote:
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> Very nice Ken! I would like to see how you complete it.
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Subject: Re: all-Piet issue of Contact!
From: "Chris Rusch" <rmdinfo(at)rmdbenders.com>
Date: Jul 15, 2013
Sounds great Oscar, I'm honored!!!
I have lots of information about my conversion that I would be glad to share......dyno
sheets, rebuild info, prop bearing housing, ignition, starter....
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NX321LR
ON THE FINAL PUSH!!
Mitsubishi Powered
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From: "Jack Phillips" <jack(at)bedfordlandings.com>
Subject: Painting, step 1
Date: Jul 15, 2013
If you work at the same speed I did, Ken, you are now about 12 months away
from flying it. So hurry up, so you can fly it to Brodhead next year.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ken Bickers
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 10:44 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Painting, step 1
Yesterday, I framed up a booth for doing some painting. Still some work to
go to brace it, enclose it, and fit it out with lights, etc. But squirting
paint is in the near future. Cheers, Ken
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Subject: Re: Continental Conn Rod Bolts
From: "tkreiner" <tkreiner(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jul 15, 2013
Ray,
I've been contacted by several others, and I'm going to bring 10 of the bags with
me, unless others contact me in the next few days.
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Tom Kreiner
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Date: Jul 15, 2013
Subject: Re: Painting, step 1
From: Ken Bickers <bickers.ken(at)gmail.com>
Okay, Jack. I'll try. I'd certainly love to be there next year for the
85th anniversary of the Air Camper in an Air Camper.
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Jack Phillips wrote:
> If you work at the same speed I did, Ken, you are now about 12 months
> away from flying it. So hurry up, so you can fly it to Brodhead next year.
> ****
>
> ** **
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> Jack Phillips****
>
> NX899JP****
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> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia****
>
> ** **
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Bickers
> *Sent:* Monday, July 15, 2013 10:44 AM
>
> *To:* pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
> *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: Painting, step 1
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> Yesterday, I framed up a booth for doing some painting. Still some work
> to go to brace it, enclose it, and fit it out with lights, etc. But
> squirting paint is in the near future. Cheers, Ken****
>
> *
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> *
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From: Lion Mason <airlion2(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Who's flying to Brodhead and who's not?
Date: Jul 15, 2013
I
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Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 15, 2013, at 9:46 AM, "Jack Phillips" wrot
e:
> Weather permitting, =9CIcarus Plummet=9D will be there.
>
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li
st-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Douwe Blumberg
> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 9:20 AM
> To: pietenpolgroup
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Who's flying to Brodhead and who's not?
>
> Been hearing of a few planes which aren=99t gonna make Brodhead this
year and was wondering who is planning on flying up and who is having to dr
op out?
>
> Weather permitting, =9CRE-PIET=9D will be there.
>
> Douwe
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
> http://forums.matronics.com
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Subject: custom wooden model
From: "pringljo" <joseph.pringle(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jul 15, 2013
I just wanted to share some pictures of the model I am having made. I am doing
this for inspiration, since it will be a few years before I have a finished plane.
I have no connection to this company, except as a customer. It cost me
about $180 for a fairly large model (24 in wing).
I just picked a picture of a plane I liked off the internet and sent the pictures.
His link is customairmodels(at)gmail.com
The final product will be polished smooth, without the blemishes in the photo.
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Joe Pringle
Atlanta, GA
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Subject: Re: all-Piet issue of Contact!
From: Jack <jack(at)textors.com>
Date: Jul 15, 2013
Oscar if you need any photos of a C85 assembly let me know...
Sent from my iPad
Jack Textor
On Jul 15, 2013, at 11:29 AM, Scott Knowlton wrote:
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> Good stuff. Will do. This is what home building and experimenting is all about.
>
> Scott
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> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 2013-07-15, at 12:25 PM, "taildrags" wrote:
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>> Scott; thanks a million! I'll post this reply to the list and not just to you
individually since the same general comment will apply no matter what the technical
topic: by all means, assemble any information you can get on the Lubitz
Escort conversion! Write the piece, get photos, do the interview... and send
it along! No matter whether the "special" Piet issue becomes reality or not,
this type of story is always of interest, and it sparks creative thinking.
Run with it!
>>
>> I'm also thinking that Greg Bacon/John Dilatush's "Mountain Piet" would be a
prime candidate for write-up as well. I don't know of any other turbocharged
Subaru Air Campers out there!
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>> --------
>> Oscar Zuniga
>> Medford, OR
>> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
>> A75 power
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>> Read this topic online here:
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From: Ray Krause <raykrause(at)frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: Continental Conn Rod Bolts
Date: Jul 15, 2013
Tom,
I will not make it to Broadhead, would you send them to me? I can send cash, check,
etc.
Thanks,
Ray Krause
843 Jay Street
Colusa, Ca 95932
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 15, 2013, at 11:30 AM, "tkreiner" wrote:
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> Ray,
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> I've been contacted by several others, and I'm going to bring 10 of the bags
with me, unless others contact me in the next few days.
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From: Ray Krause <raykrause(at)frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: Continental Conn Rod Bolts
Date: Jul 15, 2013
Tom,
Could you give the bolts to some one from CA to bring them to me? I can send you
a check, or get cash to you.
Thanks,
Ray
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 10, 2013, at 11:28 AM, "tkreiner" wrote:
>
> If you have a small Continental, i.e., an A or C series engine, even an O-200,
this may be of interest to you. We're offering this to the Piet list members
first, EAA 302 members second (my EAA Chapter), and plan to list any remaining
items on eBay after OSH.
>
> Continental P/N 530213 is the replacement Conn Rod Bolt for all of the above
referenced engines (also used on some engines that are quite a bit larger and
generally not used on a Piet.) My IA has recommended that because I don't know
the history of my engine... it would be very wise to replace these.
>
> About half the bolts are packed in the paper/foil US procurement bags, and are
NOS items from Fed Surplus. New, unused, unwrapped. The other half are in single
bags, and/or unbagged, as we've opened a few to see what was inside.
>
> After a net search, we've found that the sellers with the $12 item cost generally
don't have stock... and the most available parts are around $16 each.
>
> Since the sealed bags hold 10 pieces, we're offering them for $100., which is
only $10. per bolt. The loose bolts will also be the same cost. I will be prepared
to bring these to Brodhead, to save on shipping costs, if you're interested.
>
> Supply is limited, so if you need any, PM me ASAP.
>
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> Tom Kreiner
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Subject: Re: all-Piet issue of Contact!
From: "taildrags" <taildrags(at)hotmail.com>
Date: Jul 15, 2013
Jack;
I think there is plenty of technical content to put together an article devoted
to small Continental engines and how to get the most from them. I love these
engines and would love to see a story on building and modding them.
With airplanes like Jon Sharp's "Nemesis" and Hoot Gibson's Cassutt, there is evidence
that these engines can be encouraged to put out a lot more than their
rated power with some judicious modification. Add things like the P-Mag and there
is plenty to explore.
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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Date: Jul 15, 2013
Subject: Re: custom wooden model
From: Rick Holland <at7000ft(at)gmail.com>
Like the paint job, is your full scale version going to be just the same?
rickh
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 2:15 PM, pringljo wrote:
> >
>
> I just wanted to share some pictures of the model I am having made. I am
> doing this for inspiration, since it will be a few years before I have a
> finished plane. I have no connection to this company, except as a
> customer. It cost me about $180 for a fairly large model (24 in wing).
>
> I just picked a picture of a plane I liked off the internet and sent the
> pictures.
>
> His link is customairmodels(at)gmail.com
>
> The final product will be polished smooth, without the blemishes in the
> photo.
>
> --------
> Joe Pringle
> Atlanta, GA
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404735#404735
>
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Castle Rock, Colorado
NX6819Z
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From: airlion2(at)gmail.com
Subject: Re: Who's flying to Brodhead and who's not?
Date: Jul 15, 2013
Weather permitting, Airlion will be There if my crank doesn't break. gardine
r
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 15, 2013, at 9:46 AM, "Jack Phillips" wrot
e:
> Weather permitting, =9CIcarus Plummet=9D will be there.
>
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li
st-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Douwe Blumberg
> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 9:20 AM
> To: pietenpolgroup
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Who's flying to Brodhead and who's not?
>
> Been hearing of a few planes which aren=99t gonna make Brodhead this
year and was wondering who is planning on flying up and who is having to dr
op out?
>
> Weather permitting, =9CRE-PIET=9D will be there.
>
> Douwe
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
> http://forums.matronics.com
> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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Subject: Re: Who's flying to Brodhead and who's not?
From: Robert Bush <rbush96589(at)aol.com>
Date: Jul 15, 2013
Hi Jack , Gardiner, Douwe and everyone.Miss le Bec will be there. Plan on le
aving wed or Thursday .
Randy Bush
Sent from my iPhone
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ote:
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>> Weather permitting, =9CIcarus Plummet=9D will be there.
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>> Jack Phillips
>> NX899JP
>> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>>
>> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-l
ist-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Douwe Blumberg
>> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 9:20 AM
>> To: pietenpolgroup
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Who's flying to Brodhead and who's not?
>>
>> Been hearing of a few planes which aren=99t gonna make Brodhead thi
s year and was wondering who is planning on flying up and who is having to d
rop out?
>>
>> Weather permitting, =9CRE-PIET=9D will be there.
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>> Douwe
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Subject: Re: Who's flying to Brodhead and who's not?
From: helspersew(at)aol.com
Date: Jul 15, 2013
The G. Owen Loensloe Air Service Piet will be there, God willing. I'll make
the long cross-country (28 naut. miles) from Poplar Grove on Wed. or Thurs
.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
-----Original Message-----
From: Douwe Blumberg <douweblumberg(at)earthlink.net>
Sent: Mon, Jul 15, 2013 1:20 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Who's flying to Brodhead and who's not?
Been hearing of a few planes which aren=99t gonna makeBrodhead this y
ear and was wondering who is planning on flying up and who ishaving to drop
out?
Weather permitting, =9CRE-PIET=9D will be there.
Douwe
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Subject: Re: Tail Hinges
From: "pringljo" <joseph.pringle(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jul 15, 2013
I missed the call out on the plans for the 1/8 plywood piece that reinforces the
hinges. Instead, I used 1/16th. On the h.s. do think I would be OK gluing another
1/16 doubler there?
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Joe Pringle
Atlanta, GA
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Subject: Re: Tail Hinges
From: "tools" <n0kkj(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Jul 15, 2013
Mine doesn't have any at all... so ya, it'll be fine just gluing in another layer.
I'm gonna retrofit metal plates like the Std.
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From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB" <steven.d.dortch(at)us.army.mil>
Date: Jul 15, 2013
Subject: Thanks a lot guys
UNCLASSIFIED
Thanks, guys, you jinxed me.
Tonight, I saw a small solidified drip of epoxy on a floorboard. Easy, I grabbed
a razor and determined to trim it off. About the time I thought, "I should really
slow down and do this right." The blade cut through the epoxy and jabbed
into the fleshy part of my palm, next to my thumb. At least the blood somewhat
matched the dark stain I had used.
Then again, most of my successful projects have been baptized with a blood sacrifice.
Maybe this will get my projects back on track. So maybe you are forgiven.
Blue Skies,
Steve D.
UNCLASSIFIED
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Subject: Re: Thanks a lot guys
From: "taildrags" <taildrags(at)hotmail.com>
Date: Jul 15, 2013
Few are the trails leading to completed projects which are not crusted with dried
blood, damp with tears, and salty from sweat. Rather than being jinxed, you're
experiencing one of the things that makes a successful project an even more
valuable and memorable accomplishment. No pain, no gain.
Put a butterfly bandage on the cut, be glad that it was a clean slice from a razor
blade, and be careful next time. You know there will be a next time... there
would be no market for Band-Aids or first aid kits if there weren't "next
times" ;o)
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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Subject: Re: all-Piet issue of Contact!
From: "taildrags" <taildrags(at)hotmail.com>
Date: Jul 15, 2013
Paul; thanks for the comment. Of course William and "Wese" are invaluable resources
when it comes to the Corvair conversion, and I am in touch with both of
them as the need arises. William and Grace are planning to publish a Piet-specific
manual with tips, tricks, and other valuable information. They love the
Piet as much as we do.
That said, I'll also mention that the focus of the Contact! articles will be on
as broad a range of applications as I can round up for the issue, and I'm going
to try to have the magazine compliment William & Grace's publication, not duplicate
it. We will absolutely, positively include a current example of a Corvair
Air Camper, and may contrast it with Mr. Pietenpol's early Corvair conversions
using the top shroud blower and mostly stock internal components. There
is an excellent selection of current PietVairs... as well as others in the offing
(Kevin Purtee's reincarnated "Fat Bottomed Girl" being one example). It
is good that there are so many targets of opportunity.
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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From: "Dick N" <horzpool(at)goldengate.net>
Subject: Re: Upcoming Corvair Colleges
Date: Jul 15, 2013
Classified
Hi Rick
I actually have #3, a Sky Scout in my barn out in the back yard. It
was going to get a Harley Davidson engine but that plan isnt working out
.So here is the announcement, I am going to build a set of floats at
Sun n Fun next year and Dave Aldrich is going to build the same thing. I
am going to put the floats on my Sky Scout and on the plane during the
winter months I will put skiis on.
Thats my story and I;m sticking to it.
Dick N
Classified
----- Original Message ----
From: Rick Holland
To: pietenpol-list
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Upcoming Corvair Colleges
Dick
You are not thinking about building a third Piet, this time with a
Corvair are you?
rick h
On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 9:33 PM, Dick N
wrote:
Kevin
I also heard there is another onr coming to Oshkosh in October. I
am planning on going to that one it it happens.
Dick N.
----- Original Message ----- From: "kevinpurtee"
To:
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 9:43 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Upcoming Corvair Colleges
If you're thinking about using a Corvair then you should strongly
consider attending a college.
CC26 will be in Mexico, MO 18-20 Sep 13.
CC27 will be in Barnwell, SC 8-10 Nov 13.
CC28 will be in San Marcos, TX 28 Feb-2 Mar 14.
Shelley has made Facebook pages for each event. We're hosting the
TX event so CC28's page will be updated frequently. She'll update the
other two events as she gets information. You can also contact Zenith
Aircraft for information on CC26 & PF Beck for CC27.
--------
Kevin "Axel" Purtee
Rebuilding NX899KP
Austin/San Marcos, TX
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Date: Jul 16, 2013
From: woodflier(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Brodhead This Year
I'm leaving for Brodhead a week from today. Taking bets on whether it'll be two
days or three but it'll be all fun. Douwe, I' d sure like a ride in RE-PEIT.
Matt Paxton
Sent from my android device.
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From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: CONTACT
Date: Jul 16, 2013
Oscar,
I talked with the guy in Australia who has flown a Piet behind a Buick 218
for years. I could try to find or remember the specifics.
Douwe
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From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB" <steven.d.dortch(at)us.army.mil>
Date: Jul 16, 2013
Subject: Re: wood vs steel struts
UNCLASSIFIED
Way late into this discussion.
Think about using aluminium but painting it to look like wood.
A buddy building a Spencer AirCar (Huge amphibian) has developed the ability to
modify a paint job so that it looks like wood. you can't tell where the real
wood and the plastic or aluminium start.
On 06/16/13, Michael Perez wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi Paul. I can't answer your question directly, only to say that the aluminum
struts will be lighter than any similar sized steel struts. If you are thinking
of using steel tubes to wrap with wood, than those steel tubes alone will probably
weigh more than the aluminum struts. Aluminum tubes wrapped with wood,
T-88, varnish/paint may still weigh more than the plain aluminum struts.
>
> You may want to buy streamline aluminum struts and then wrap them with a thin
wood veneer. (Of course, the added veneer, adhesive, varnish/paint, etc. add
weight...) However, gluing down a thin veneer over the streamline tube would be
easy and the shape is already perfect...no wood fabrication required. The veneer
can be purchased just about any place you can buy wood.
>
> FWIW, my aluminum struts, complete with machined aluminum inserts, SS forks and
the nuts/bolts to assemble them, weigh just under 4 lbs. each.
>
> Michael Perez
> Pietenpol HINT Videos
> Karetaker Aero
> http://www.karetakeraero.com/(blockedhttp://www.karetakeraero.com/)
>
>
UNCLASSIFIED
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From: "John Greenlee" <jmgreenlee(at)sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Who's flying from TX, OK to Brodhead
Date: Jul 16, 2013
Hello,
I'm trying to decide whether to fly the Chief up from N Central Texas to
Brodhead. Anybody else have plans to fly from this area?
Thx!
JMG
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Date: Jul 16, 2013
Subject: Re: Upcoming Corvair Colleges
From: Rick Holland <at7000ft(at)gmail.com>
Alright we will hold you to that. And if you do not have your seaplane
rating yet you can drop by Dave Browns seaplane base next year (just down
the road from Sun-n-Fun) and pick that up. I did that back in the 70s, it
was the most fun I ever had in an any airplane.
rick
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 9:47 PM, Dick N wrote:
> **
> Classified
>
> Hi Rick
> I actually have #3, a Sky Scout in my barn out in the back yard. It was
> going to get a Harley Davidson engine but that plan isnt working out .So
> here is the announcement, I am going to build a set of floats at Sun n Fun
> next year and Dave Aldrich is going to build the same thing. I am going to
> put the floats on my Sky Scout and on the plane during the winter months I
> will put skiis on.
> Thats my story and I;m sticking to it.
> Dick N
>
> Classified
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> *From:* Rick Holland
> *To:* pietenpol-list
> *Sent:* Monday, July 15, 2013 11:40 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: Upcoming Corvair Colleges
>
> Dick
>
> You are not thinking about building a third Piet, this time with a Corvair
> are you?
>
> rick h
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 9:33 PM, Dick N wrote:
>
>>
>> Kevin
>> I also heard there is another onr coming to Oshkosh in October. I am
>> planning on going to that one it it happens.
>> Dick N.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "kevinpurtee" <
>> kevin.purtee(at)us.army.mil>
>> To:
>> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 9:43 AM
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Upcoming Corvair Colleges
>>
>>
>>> kevin.purtee(at)us.army.mil>
>>>
>>> If you're thinking about using a Corvair then you should strongly
>>> consider attending a college.
>>>
>>> CC26 will be in Mexico, MO 18-20 Sep 13.
>>> CC27 will be in Barnwell, SC 8-10 Nov 13.
>>> CC28 will be in San Marcos, TX 28 Feb-2 Mar 14.
>>>
>>> Shelley has made Facebook pages for each event. We're hosting the TX
>>> event so CC28's page will be updated frequently. She'll update the other
>>> two events as she gets information. You can also contact Zenith Aircraft
>>> for information on CC26 & PF Beck for CC27.
>>>
>>> --------
>>> Kevin "Axel" Purtee
>>> Rebuilding NX899KP
>>> Austin/San Marcos, TX
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>
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Subject: Re: wood vs steel struts
From: "tools" <n0kkj(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Jul 16, 2013
The technique is referred to as "faux wood finishing" and has been around a LONG
time. VERY common in the colonial days to paint nasty ordinary common hard
woods like cherry and walnut, to look like mahogany. Seriously, they'd paint
it brown and fake the entire job!
Point being, it really can be convincing, it's well documented and there's quite
a number of tools out there that can help. Just start researching faux wood
finishing techniques.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404762#404762
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Subject: Re: Who's flying from TX, OK to Brodhead
From: "curtdm(at)gmail.com" <curtdm(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jul 16, 2013
I've already got my ticket to MKE from DAL.
I guess we'll see you there.
--------
Curt Merdan
Flower Mound, TX
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Subject: Re: Tail Hinges
From: "jarheadpilot82" <jarheadpilot82(at)hotmail.com>
Date: Jul 16, 2013
Tools,
Take a picture of the brazed nut plate the next time you are working on the J-1.
My simple brain works better with a picture.
BTW, missed you in AMS.
--------
Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404769#404769
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From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB" <steven.d.dortch(at)us.army.mil>
Date: Jul 16, 2013
Subject: Re: wood vs steel struts
UNCLASSIFIED
Remember tools, If you can fake sincerity the rest is easy!
Steve D
On 07/16/13, tools wrote:
>
> The technique is referred to as "faux wood finishing" and has been around a LONG
time. VERY common in the colonial days to paint nasty ordinary common hard
woods like cherry and walnut, to look like mahogany. Seriously, they'd paint
it brown and fake the entire job!
>
> Point being, it really can be convincing, it's well documented and there's quite
a number of tools out there that can help. Just start researching faux wood
finishing techniques.
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404762#404762
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
UNCLASSIFIED
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Subject: Re: Tail Hinges
From: "tools" <n0kkj(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Jul 16, 2013
Was on short call that whole time, but no trips assigned... several days back to
back, would rather have been in AMS!
It's all covered now, but will try to put together a pic in the next day or two
as I retrofit the hinges on 2RN.
When you coming to OSH again? Should have the motorhome there by Fri night (26th),
a classic wood boat show on Sat in Neenah, then ferrying it down to OSH on
Sun to avail for the week (a 30' '64 CC Conny) if I can find a slip or dock
space.
Wood boat, wood plane, guess I need a Morgan now!
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404773#404773
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Subject: Re: Painting, step 1
From: Rick <lmforge(at)earthlink.net>
Date: Jul 16, 2013
Very nice Ken. I am almost exactly at the same point. I spent today taking everything
off the fuselage, firewall forward, getting ready to cover the fuselage.
I have a friend that just built a large spray booth to paint his Cherokee.
The plastic he used was heavy gauge construction polypropylene. It now sits
in my T hangar ready to be attached to a frame. Hopefully I will get it set up
before Brodhead.
See you in a few days!
Rick Schreiber
NX478RS
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 15, 2013, at 9:44 AM, Ken Bickers wrote:
> Yesterday, I framed up a booth for doing some painting. Still some work to go
to brace it, enclose it, and fit it out with lights, etc. But squirting paint
is in the near future. Cheers, Ken
>
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From: "Dennis Engelkenjohn" <mushface1(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Tail Hinges
Date: Jul 16, 2013
my buddy had a Morgan in Park Hills, Mo. Steel chassis, wood frame and sheet
metal over it. Kingpin front suspension. It would go about 11 miles until it
started to overheat. We used to take it to a restaurant in Bismarck, Mo
about 10 miles away and get lunch and let it cool then drive it back to his
house. He was too cheap to take it to a mechanic. He left it to his daughter
when he passed on. She may still have it or maybe she sold it.
dennis
-----Original Message-----
From: tools
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:13 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Tail Hinges
Was on short call that whole time, but no trips assigned... several days
back to back, would rather have been in AMS!
It's all covered now, but will try to put together a pic in the next day or
two as I retrofit the hinges on 2RN.
When you coming to OSH again? Should have the motorhome there by Fri night
(26th), a classic wood boat show on Sat in Neenah, then ferrying it down to
OSH on Sun to avail for the week (a 30' '64 CC Conny) if I can find a slip
or dock space.
Wood boat, wood plane, guess I need a Morgan now!
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404773#404773
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Date: Jul 16, 2013
Subject: Re: Who's flying to Brodhead and who's not?
From: DandD Boyd <dndboyd2(at)gmail.com>
Dave Boyd, Champaign, IL planning to fly in weather permitting. Arriving
Friday afternoon.
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Douwe Blumberg wrote:
> Been hearing of a few planes which aren=92t gonna make Brodhead this yea
r
> and was wondering who is planning on flying up and who is having to drop
> out?****
>
> ** **
>
> Weather permitting, =93RE-PIET=94 will be there.****
>
> ** **
>
> Douwe****
>
> *
>
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Subject: Re: Painting, step 1
From: Ken Bickers <bickers.ken(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jul 16, 2013
Rick, this year I won't be able to make Brodhead. Hopefully we'll be able to ooh
and aah at each other's Piets next year at Brodhead. Best, Ken
On Jul 16, 2013, at 4:03 PM, Rick wrote:
>
> Very nice Ken. I am almost exactly at the same point. I spent today taking everything
off the fuselage, firewall forward, getting ready to cover the fuselage.
I have a friend that just built a large spray booth to paint his Cherokee.
The plastic he used was heavy gauge construction polypropylene. It now sits
in my T hangar ready to be attached to a frame. Hopefully I will get it set
up before Brodhead.
>
> See you in a few days!
>
> Rick Schreiber
> NX478RS
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jul 15, 2013, at 9:44 AM, Ken Bickers wrote:
>
>> Yesterday, I framed up a booth for doing some painting. Still some work to
go to brace it, enclose it, and fit it out with lights, etc. But squirting paint
is in the near future. Cheers, Ken
>>
>
>
>
>
>
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From: "Greg Cardinal" <gcardinal(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Who's flying to Brodhead and who's not?
Date: Jul 16, 2013
The "Northern Contingent" will be well represented.
Dick Navratil, Bob Poore and I will be there on Wednesday. We may be
joined by Ryan Kallenbach who has just completed a beautiful Corvair
powered Air Camper and is working hard to fly off his test hours.
Greg Cardinal
----- Original Message -----
From: Douwe Blumberg
To: pietenpolgroup
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 8:19 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Who's flying to Brodhead and who's not?
Been hearing of a few planes which aren't gonna make Brodhead this
year and was wondering who is planning on flying up and who is having to
drop out?
Weather permitting, "RE-PIET" will be there.
Douwe
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From: Ray Krause <raykrause(at)frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: Continental Conn Rod Bolts
Date: Jul 16, 2013
Tom,
It is all arranged. Please give my bag of bolts to Jim Boyer. He will pay you
and bring them back to me. Any questions, please let me know.
Thanks,
Ray Krause
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 15, 2013, at 11:30 AM, "tkreiner" wrote:
>
> Ray,
>
> I've been contacted by several others, and I'm going to bring 10 of the bags
with me, unless others contact me in the next few days.
>
> --------
> Tom Kreiner
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404728#404728
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: Re: Who's flying from TX, OK to Brodhead
From: "caldwrl" <caldwrl(at)etex.net>
Date: Jul 17, 2013
I'm planning on flying up in my Stinson Voyager. Leaving on Wednesday morning
from Mineola Wisener (3F9), but will stop off at St. Louis to spend a day and
pick up my Son. We plan to depart Creve Coeur (1H0) on Friday morning direct
to Brodhead. Let me know if this fits in your schedule or flight scheme. Hope
to see you there.
--------
Robert Caldwell
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404827#404827
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From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB" <steven.d.dortch(at)us.army.mil>
Date: Jul 17, 2013
Subject: Re: Who's flying from TX, OK to Brodhead NOW OT the
one that got away
UNCLASSIFIED
Robert, since you mentioned a Stinson, now I can tell you my story about the one
that got away.
In 1992 I was working in Dalhart, Texas. I went out to the airport to see what
was going on and who rented airplanes. There was no flight school and no one renting,
but the Lineboy mentioned that a part owner of a pretty Stinson Stationwagon
had died and the family was trying to sell his half. When I saw the plane,
it was awesome. It had been restored to prize winning status including an
engine overhaul. I got the number and tried to contact the family. Never was able
to get hold of them. Finally, I gave up.
Later, I found out that it sold. The other partner told the family that they could
do what they wanted but his half of the plane was staying right there in Dalhart.
As a result there were no offers. Finally, a local rancher bought 1/2
of the plane for $2,500 so that his wife could learn to fly.
The one that got away.
Blue Skies,
Steve D
On 07/17/13, caldwrl wrote:
>
> I'm planning on flying up in my Stinson Voyager. Leaving on Wednesday morning
from Mineola Wisener (3F9), but will stop off at St. Louis to spend a day and
pick up my Son. We plan to depart Creve Coeur (1H0) on Friday morning direct
to Brodhead. Let me know if this fits in your schedule or flight scheme. Hope
to see you there.
>
> --------
> Robert Caldwell
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404827#404827
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
UNCLASSIFIED
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Subject: Re: New Spar In Place
From: "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld(at)lacity.org>
Date: Jul 17, 2013
Gary,
Great to see the progress.
Scott
--------
Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404829#404829
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Date: Jul 17, 2013
Subject: Re: Painting, step 1
From: Rick Holland <at7000ft(at)gmail.com>
Will see you there Ken, will get there on Saturday and am staying in Monroe
(yes in a hotel, I am too much of a wimp to handle the rain and bugs in a
tent). Am looking forward to that pork chop dinner.
rick
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 7:42 PM, Ken Bickers wrote:
>
> Rick, this year I won't be able to make Brodhead. Hopefully we'll be able
> to ooh and aah at each other's Piets next year at Brodhead. Best, Ken
>
> On Jul 16, 2013, at 4:03 PM, Rick wrote:
>
> >
> > Very nice Ken. I am almost exactly at the same point. I spent today
> taking everything off the fuselage, firewall forward, getting ready to
> cover the fuselage. I have a friend that just built a large spray booth
> to paint his Cherokee. The plastic he used was heavy gauge construction
> polypropylene. It now sits in my T hangar ready to be attached to a frame.
> Hopefully I will get it set up before Brodhead.
> >
> > See you in a few days!
> >
> > Rick Schreiber
> > NX478RS
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > On Jul 15, 2013, at 9:44 AM, Ken Bickers wrote:
> >
> >> Yesterday, I framed up a booth for doing some painting. Still some
> work to go to brace it, enclose it, and fit it out with lights, etc. But
> squirting paint is in the near future. Cheers, Ken
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
--
Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
NX6819Z
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Subject: Re: wood vs steel struts
From: "womenfly2" <Love2Fly.KAP(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jul 17, 2013
... or this: hydrographic wood grain
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404851#404851
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From: brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com
Subject: Room reservation for Brodhead
Date: Jul 17, 2013
Due to work again this year I won't be attending Brodhead. I do have a
room reserved in Monroe at the AmericInn. I have till next Wednesday to
cancel if anybody is interested in the 2 Queen room, free Breakfast,
nice pool.
Brian
SLC-UT
385-315-0127
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Date: Jul 17, 2013
Subject: Re: Room reservation for Brodhead
From: Marcus Zechini <marcus.zechini(at)gmail.com>
I aam interested. Camping fine if it isnt HOT!
On Jul 17, 2013 2:30 PM, <brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com> wrote:
>
> Due to work again this year I won't be attending Brodhead. I do have a
> room reserved in Monroe at the AmericInn. I have till next Wednesday to
> cancel if anybody is interested in the 2 Queen room, free Breakfast,
> nice pool.
>
> Brian
> SLC-UT
> 385-315-0127
>
>
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Subject: Model-A throttle response
From: "BYD" <billsayre(at)ymail.com>
Date: Jul 17, 2013
Model-A drivers, does your engine stumble if you add throttle quickly? (Sounds
like the beginning of an advertisement) My engine is being broken in and in
the past it would quit if I closed the throttle quickly (friction) but Im at that
magical point of 20 hours and thats gone, however, I still suffer from a bad
stumble if I add power quickly. Anyone else work through this already?
Thanks in advance.
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From: "Jack" <jack(at)textors.com>
Subject: Brat Fest III
Date: Jul 18, 2013
Piet friends, Susan and I are looking forward to hosting lunch at Brodhead
Friday, July 26th, 11:30 to 12:30. We will be located on the SE edge of the
field by the white fence.
http://www.eaa431.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/C37-Fly-In-Diagram.jpg We
will have a 100 brats, salad and chips. When they are gone, they are gone.
Please bring a drink and chair. Look for the 45 foot brown and black Thor
diesel. Looking forward to it, let's hope for great weather! We will be
arriving Thursday departing Saturday AM.
Jack and Susan
Jack Textor
Des Moines, IA
Cell 515-490-5177
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From: "Jack Phillips" <jack(at)bedfordlandings.com>
Subject: Brat Fest III
Date: Jul 18, 2013
Jack, thanks in advance! I'm looking forward to it.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
_____________________________________________
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 7:36 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brat Fest III
Piet friends, Susan and I are looking forward to hosting lunch at Brodhead
Friday, July 26th, 11:30 to 12:30. We will be located on the SE edge of the
field by the white fence.
http://www.eaa431.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/C37-Fly-In-Diagram.jpg We
will have a 100 brats, salad and chips. When they are gone, they are gone.
Please bring a drink and chair. Look for the 45 foot brown and black Thor
diesel. Looking forward to it, let's hope for great weather! We will be
arriving Thursday departing Saturday AM.
Jack and Susan
Jack Textor
Des Moines, IA
Cell 515-490-5177
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Subject: Re: Brat Fest III
From: airlion2(at)gmail.com
Date: Jul 18, 2013
Jack, I plan to be there also. Thanks for the invite. Gardiner mason
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 18, 2013, at 7:35 AM, "Jack" wrote:
> Piet friends, Susan and I are looking forward to hosting lunch at Brodhead
> Friday, July 26th, 11:30 to 12:30. We will be located on the SE edge of the
> field by the white fence.
> http://www.eaa431.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/C37-Fly-In-Diagram.jpg We
> will have a 100 brats, salad and chips. When they are gone, they are gone.
> Please bring a drink and chair. Look for the 45 foot brown and black Thor
> diesel. Looking forward to it, let's hope for great weather! We will be
> arriving Thursday departing Saturday AM.
> Jack and Susan
>
> Jack Textor
> Des Moines, IA
> Cell 515-490-5177
>
>
>
>
>
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From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: if you helped with "RE-PIET"...
Date: Jul 18, 2013
If you helped in any way getting RE-PIET rebuilt (and you know who you
are.), please be sure to find me at Brodhead. I want everyone to sign
somewhere inside the cowling.
Thanks!
Douwe
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Brat Fest III
From: helspersew(at)aol.com
Date: Jul 18, 2013
See you there! Wouldn't miss it!
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
-----Original Message-----
From: Jack <jack(at)textors.com>
Sent: Thu, Jul 18, 2013 6:36 am
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brat Fest III
Piet friends, Susan and I are looking forward to hosting lunch at Brodhead
Friday, July 26th, 11:30 to 12:30. We will be located on the SE edge of the
field by the white fence.
http://www.eaa431.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/C37-Fly-In-Diagram.jpg We
will have a 100 brats, salad and chips. When they are gone, they are gone.
Please bring a drink and chair. Look for the 45 foot brown and black Thor
diesel. Looking forward to it, let's hope for great weather! We will be
arriving Thursday departing Saturday AM.
Jack and Susan
Jack Textor
Des Moines, IA
Cell 515-490-5177
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Subject: Re: Brat Fest III
From: "echobravo4" <eab4(at)comcast.net>
Date: Jul 18, 2013
Thanks Jack!
Can't wait
--------
Earl Brown
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I
intended to be.
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Subject: Re: Brat Fest III
From: Rick <lmforge(at)earthlink.net>
Date: Jul 18, 2013
Thanks for continuing to do this Susan and Jack. I will be there.
Rick Schreiber
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 18, 2013, at 6:35 AM, "Jack" wrote:
> Piet friends, Susan and I are looking forward to hosting lunch at Brodhead
> Friday, July 26th, 11:30 to 12:30. We will be located on the SE edge of the
> field by the white fence.
> http://www.eaa431.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/C37-Fly-In-Diagram.jpg We
> will have a 100 brats, salad and chips. When they are gone, they are gone.
> Please bring a drink and chair. Look for the 45 foot brown and black Thor
> diesel. Looking forward to it, let's hope for great weather! We will be
> arriving Thursday departing Saturday AM.
> Jack and Susan
>
> Jack Textor
> Des Moines, IA
> Cell 515-490-5177
>
>
>
>
>
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Date: Jul 18, 2013
From: "TOM STINEMETZE" <TOMS(at)mcpcity.com>
Subject: Re: Brat Fest III
Susan and Jack:
Never having been to the Brodhead gathering before I am getting excited just thinking
about it. My wife and I will be there for the brats and the companionship
of Pietenpeople. You are to be commended for starting and continuing the
bratfest tradition.
We are wimping out and staying in a motel in Monroe but will be happy to add our
vehicle to the list for helping others get into town and such. We're still
a couple of years out from having our own Piet ready to fly in.
Praying for cooler weather and an absence of the Wisconsin State bird.
Tom and Sharon Stinemetze
N328X
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Subject: Re: Brat Fest III
From: Lion Mason <airlion2(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jul 18, 2013
Thanks Tom , I would like to make an ice run at some point. Gardiner
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 18, 2013, at 11:58 AM, "TOM STINEMETZE" wrote:
>
> Susan and Jack:
>
> Never having been to the Brodhead gathering before I am getting excited just
thinking about it. My wife and I will be there for the brats and the companionship
of Pietenpeople. You are to be commended for starting and continuing the
bratfest tradition.
>
> We are wimping out and staying in a motel in Monroe but will be happy to add
our vehicle to the list for helping others get into town and such. We're still
a couple of years out from having our own Piet ready to fly in.
>
> Praying for cooler weather and an absence of the Wisconsin State bird.
> Tom and Sharon Stinemetze
> N328X
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From: "Jack Phillips" <jack(at)bedfordlandings.com>
Subject: Brat Fest III
Date: Jul 18, 2013
Gardiner, are you flying "Lucky" up to Brodhead this year?
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lion Mason
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brat Fest III
Thanks Tom , I would like to make an ice run at some point. Gardiner
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 18, 2013, at 11:58 AM, "TOM STINEMETZE" wrote:
>
> Susan and Jack:
>
> Never having been to the Brodhead gathering before I am getting excited
just thinking about it. My wife and I will be there for the brats and the
companionship of Pietenpeople. You are to be commended for starting and
continuing the bratfest tradition.
>
> We are wimping out and staying in a motel in Monroe but will be happy to
add our vehicle to the list for helping others get into town and such.
We're still a couple of years out from having our own Piet ready to fly in.
>
> Praying for cooler weather and an absence of the Wisconsin State bird.
> Tom and Sharon Stinemetze
> N328X
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Date: Jul 18, 2013
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Matt's KLVK ATC Streaming...
Dear Listers,
A couple of weeks ago I found a web site on the Internet called LiveATC.net that
has the Air Traffic Control (ATC) tower communications on line for streaming
for a number of airports around the country. Lo 'n behold, they even have a
stream for my home base, the Livermore Airport. But, much to my dismay, the quality
of their KLVK feed was just plain awful. It was obvious the airband source
didn't have a decent antenna or perhaps even a good radio. I suppose that
given that their site is a consortium of local citizens providing the feeds,
the lack of quality goes with the territory.
But, I really liked the idea of being able to monitor the LVK ATC and also the
ability to bring up the archives and listen to my personal communications with
the tower after a flight.
Since I had a computer at the hangar along with a pretty decent Internet connection
and, in the spirit of Experimental Homebuilding, I had an idea... I mounted
an air-band antenna on the top of the hangar and brought the RG-58 coax down
to near the computer and plugged it into my trusty Icom IC-A20 hand held.
I was AMAZED at the quality of signal I was getting. It was picking up guys in
airplanes 19 miles out like they were sitting next to my hangar! I set the
radio to high-speed scan between the Tower and Ground frequencies so with a single
feed I could get all communications.
So next, I made an audio connection from the handheld to the Line In input on the computer. Sure enough, now I was getting great sound from the hand held on the computer! I found some software from Australia called BroadWave from a company called NCH ( http://www.nch.com.au/streaming ). It lets you connect to the Line In port on the computer and then generate real time audio streams that can be served up via the Internet. And sure enough, it works great!
Next, I found some software from Germany called Loop Recorder ( http://looprecorder.de ) that let's you monitor an audio input on your computer and generate archive files. You can select an increment in which to rotate the files automatically, for example, every 30 minutes. I downloaded this software and installed it and sure enough, I was able to start archiving the ATC transmissions coming in, all the while streaming them live as well!
The last piece of the puzzle was to enable the Web and FTP servers on the Windows
7 system and come up with a front-end web page that would tie all of these
new resources together for easy access from the Internet. I'm happy to report,
the whole thing came together very nicely and even allows you stream directly
to your Android or iPhone as well as your desktop! Pretty darn cool!
And so, without further ado, here is my new web site for monitoring the ATC communications
at KLVK:
http://klvk.matronics.com/
Just to state the obvious, the stream is silent if there isn't any current ATC
or aircraft communications. During the day, you'll usually hear something within
five or ten minutes. Sometimes much quicker.
I contacted LiveATC.net and they were excited about adding my new stream to their web site as well. So, at some point soon, the LiveATC.net feed for Livermore Airport will be coming from my hangar! My site http://klvk.matronics.com will continue to be available as well.
For entertainment purposes only!
-
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
Status: 170+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mode
Matt's Livermore Airport Live ATC Stream!
Check out the live ATC stream directly from my hangar at the Livermore
Airport. Includes both Tower and Ground transmissions. Archives too!
For entertainment purposes only. http://klvk.matronics.com
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Matt's KLVK ATC Streaming...
From: Gary Boothe <gboothe5(at)comcast.net>
Date: Jul 18, 2013
Matt,
You are amazing! Thanks! You did everything exactly as I would have! :-0
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 18, 2013, at 11:38 AM, Matt Dralle wrote:
>
>
> Dear Listers,
>
> A couple of weeks ago I found a web site on the Internet called LiveATC.net that
has the Air Traffic Control (ATC) tower communications on line for streaming
for a number of airports around the country. Lo 'n behold, they even have
a stream for my home base, the Livermore Airport. But, much to my dismay, the
quality of their KLVK feed was just plain awful. It was obvious the airband
source didn't have a decent antenna or perhaps even a good radio. I suppose that
given that their site is a consortium of local citizens providing the feeds,
the lack of quality goes with the territory.
>
> But, I really liked the idea of being able to monitor the LVK ATC and also the
ability to bring up the archives and listen to my personal communications with
the tower after a flight.
>
> Since I had a computer at the hangar along with a pretty decent Internet connection
and, in the spirit of Experimental Homebuilding, I had an idea... I mounted
an air-band antenna on the top of the hangar and brought the RG-58 coax
down to near the computer and plugged it into my trusty Icom IC-A20 hand held.
I was AMAZED at the quality of signal I was getting. It was picking up guys
in airplanes 19 miles out like they were sitting next to my hangar! I set the
radio to high-speed scan between the Tower and Ground frequencies so with a
single feed I could get all communications.
>
> So next, I made an audio connection from the handheld to the Line In input on the computer. Sure enough, now I was getting great sound from the hand held on the computer! I found some software from Australia called BroadWave from a company called NCH ( http://www.nch.com.au/streaming ). It lets you connect to the Line In port on the computer and then generate real time audio streams that can be served up via the Internet. And sure enough, it works great!
>
> Next, I found some software from Germany called Loop Recorder ( http://looprecorder.de ) that let's you monitor an audio input on your computer and generate archive files. You can select an increment in which to rotate the files automatically, for example, every 30 minutes. I downloaded this software and installed it and sure enough, I was able to start archiving the ATC transmissions coming in, all the while streaming them live as well!
>
> The last piece of the puzzle was to enable the Web and FTP servers on the Windows
7 system and come up with a front-end web page that would tie all of these
new resources together for easy access from the Internet. I'm happy to report,
the whole thing came together very nicely and even allows you stream directly
to your Android or iPhone as well as your desktop! Pretty darn cool!
>
> And so, without further ado, here is my new web site for monitoring the ATC communications
at KLVK:
>
> http://klvk.matronics.com/
>
> Just to state the obvious, the stream is silent if there isn't any current ATC
or aircraft communications. During the day, you'll usually hear something within
five or ten minutes. Sometimes much quicker.
>
> I contacted LiveATC.net and they were excited about adding my new stream to their web site as well. So, at some point soon, the LiveATC.net feed for Livermore Airport will be coming from my hangar! My site http://klvk.matronics.com will continue to be available as well.
>
> For entertainment purposes only!
>
>
>
> -
> Matt Dralle
>
> RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
> http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
> http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
> http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
> Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
>
> RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
> http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
> Status: 170+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mode
>
> Matt's Livermore Airport Live ATC Stream!
> Check out the live ATC stream directly from my hangar at the Livermore
> Airport. Includes both Tower and Ground transmissions. Archives too!
> For entertainment purposes only. http://klvk.matronics.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: EAA 534 Piet question
From: John Weber <ransfly(at)aol.com>
Date: Jul 18, 2013
Hi all,
We are helping one of our members finish up his Piet that he was planning on
using a model A engine in. The motor mount is assembled, but the engine is not
installed at this point. The question came up today about what it would take
to install a Corvair engine instead. It is one of the long fuselage designs.
Thanks in advance for your comments. John Weber
Sent from my iPad
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Brat Fest III
From: airlion2(at)gmail.com
Date: Jul 18, 2013
Yes jack. I am flying the airlion up to Brodhead and leaving Monday am early. Where
did you get the name lucky from. Gardiner since I am low and slow I need
an early start.
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 18, 2013, at 1:59 PM, "Jack Phillips"
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lion Mason
> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 1:55 PM
> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brat Fest III
>
>
> Thanks Tom , I would like to make an ice run at some point. Gardiner
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 18, 2013, at 11:58 AM, "TOM STINEMETZE" wrote:
>
>>
>> Susan and Jack:
>>
>> Never having been to the Brodhead gathering before I am getting excited
> just thinking about it. My wife and I will be there for the brats and the
> companionship of Pietenpeople. You are to be commended for starting and
> continuing the bratfest tradition.
>>
>> We are wimping out and staying in a motel in Monroe but will be happy to
> add our vehicle to the list for helping others get into town and such.
> We're still a couple of years out from having our own Piet ready to fly in.
>>
>> Praying for cooler weather and an absence of the Wisconsin State bird.
>> Tom and Sharon Stinemetze
>> N328X
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Jack Phillips" <jack(at)bedfordlandings.com>
Subject: Brat Fest III
Date: Jul 18, 2013
I figured after its adventure at SNF a couple of years ago, Lucky was a good
name for it.
I'm heading up Tuesday, to arrive either late Wednesday or early Thursday
morning
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
airlion2(at)gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brat Fest III
Yes jack. I am flying the airlion up to Brodhead and leaving Monday am
early. Where did you get the name lucky from. Gardiner since I am low and
slow I need an early start.
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 18, 2013, at 1:59 PM, "Jack Phillips"
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lion Mason
> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 1:55 PM
> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brat Fest III
>
>
> Thanks Tom , I would like to make an ice run at some point. Gardiner
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 18, 2013, at 11:58 AM, "TOM STINEMETZE" wrote:
>
>>
>> Susan and Jack:
>>
>> Never having been to the Brodhead gathering before I am getting excited
> just thinking about it. My wife and I will be there for the brats and the
> companionship of Pietenpeople. You are to be commended for starting and
> continuing the bratfest tradition.
>>
>> We are wimping out and staying in a motel in Monroe but will be happy to
> add our vehicle to the list for helping others get into town and such.
> We're still a couple of years out from having our own Piet ready to fly
in.
>>
>> Praying for cooler weather and an absence of the Wisconsin State bird.
>> Tom and Sharon Stinemetze
>> N328X
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 18, 2013
Subject: Re: EAA 534 Piet question
From: Rick Holland <at7000ft(at)gmail.com>
Hello John
I would think you would do the same thing I did before I built the engine
mount for my long fuse corvair, do a weight and balance with everything
assembled (but an engine of course) and then back calculate where a 220
pound ready to fly corvair engine with oil and wood prop would need to be
to center your CG (I hung some weight from under where my fuel tank is to
account for fuel). Then build your corvair engine mount accordingly
(William Wynne has complete instructions for one in his conversion manual).
Also 90% of William's 601 firewall forward manual applies to Piets or any
other aircraft with a corvair.
rick h
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:55 PM, John Weber wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> We are helping one of our members finish up his Piet that he was
> planning on using a model A engine in. The motor mount is assembled, but
> the engine is not installed at this point. The question came up today
> about what it would take to install a Corvair engine instead. It is one of
> the long fuselage designs. Thanks in advance for your comments. John Weber
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
--
Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
NX6819Z
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: EAA 534 Piet question
From: John Weber <ransfly(at)aol.com>
Date: Jul 18, 2013
Thanks Rick. John
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 18, 2013, at 3:15 PM, Rick Holland wrote:
> Hello John
>
> I would think you would do the same thing I did before I built the engine m
ount for my long fuse corvair, do a weight and balance with everything assem
bled (but an engine of course) and then back calculate where a 220 pound rea
dy to fly corvair engine with oil and wood prop would need to be to center y
our CG (I hung some weight from under where my fuel tank is to account for f
uel). Then build your corvair engine mount accordingly (William Wynne has co
mplete instructions for one in his conversion manual).
>
> Also 90% of William's 601 firewall forward manual applies to Piets or any o
ther aircraft with a corvair.
>
> rick h
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:55 PM, John Weber wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>> We are helping one of our members finish up his Piet that he was planni
ng on using a model A engine in. The motor mount is assembled, but the engi
ne is not installed at this point. The question came up today about what it
would take to install a Corvair engine instead. It is one of the long fusel
age designs. Thanks in advance for your comments. John Weber
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
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>> ==========
>> http://forums.matronics.com
>> ==========
>> le, List Admin.
>> ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>> ==========
>
>
>
> --
> Rick Holland
> Castle Rock, Colorado
> NX6819Z
>
>
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Subject: Re: Brat Fest III
From: Jack <jack(at)textors.com>
Date: Jul 18, 2013
I had a Sig Senior RC called Lucky...
Sent from my iPad
Jack Textor
On Jul 18, 2013, at 2:13 PM, "Jack Phillips" wrote:
>
> I figured after its adventure at SNF a couple of years ago, Lucky was a good
> name for it.
>
> I'm heading up Tuesday, to arrive either late Wednesday or early Thursday
> morning
>
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> airlion2(at)gmail.com
> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 3:03 PM
> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brat Fest III
>
>
> Yes jack. I am flying the airlion up to Brodhead and leaving Monday am
> early. Where did you get the name lucky from. Gardiner since I am low and
> slow I need an early start.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jul 18, 2013, at 1:59 PM, "Jack Phillips" year?
>>
>> Jack Phillips
>> NX899JP
>> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lion Mason
>> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 1:55 PM
>> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brat Fest III
>>
>>
>> Thanks Tom , I would like to make an ice run at some point. Gardiner
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jul 18, 2013, at 11:58 AM, "TOM STINEMETZE" wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Susan and Jack:
>>>
>>> Never having been to the Brodhead gathering before I am getting excited
>> just thinking about it. My wife and I will be there for the brats and the
>> companionship of Pietenpeople. You are to be commended for starting and
>> continuing the bratfest tradition.
>>>
>>> We are wimping out and staying in a motel in Monroe but will be happy to
>> add our vehicle to the list for helping others get into town and such.
>> We're still a couple of years out from having our own Piet ready to fly
> in.
>>>
>>> Praying for cooler weather and an absence of the Wisconsin State bird.
>>> Tom and Sharon Stinemetze
>>> N328X
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Brat Fest III
From: "coxwelljon" <coxwelljon(at)frontiernet.net>
Date: Jul 18, 2013
Thanks Jack,
I hope to see you there. My grandson and I enjoyed meeting you last year. Unfortunately
he will not be able to come this year but I will be there.
--------
Jon Coxwell
GN-1 Builder
Recycle and preserve the planet
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404906#404906
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Corvair on a GN-1
From: "coxwelljon" <coxwelljon(at)frontiernet.net>
Date: Jul 18, 2013
I l haven't posted lately or followed what was going on but thought I would bring
the list up to date with some issues I have discovered with my GN-1.
I bought mine as a partially completed project with a corvair engine supposedly
rebuilt to WW specs. I won't go in to all that I had to do to the engine but
the short answer was totally rebuild it.
Last fall I ran the engine at a corvair college and then began to concentrate on
the airframe. My fuselage was built but not covered. I hung the engine on
the airframe and began to work on weight and balance.
It is amazing how the subtle changes in geometry that Grega made add up. Putting
the heavier corvair engine on the GN-1 which was a re-designed Piet for an
A-65 makes it extremely nose heavy. The bolt on cub gear is also well behind
the leading edge (9") which I think would make for some potential nose overs on
taxing. I hung the engine on in flight attitude and the tail was definitely
negative. The GN-1 wing is fixed and does not move back and forth like the Piet.
My motor mount that came with the project had the engine well out in front,
probably 8 to 10" ahead of the firewall. Weight and balance looked horrible.
I rebuilt the motor mount which moved the engine back to minimum clearance
from the fire wall which puts more weight on the tail when in 3 point attitude
on the ground. I then redesigned the vertical cabane attachments so the wing
would rotate like a piet. I then moved the wing back 4" to make the weight
and balance work while in the air.
I spent a lot of time reading through William Wynne's weight and balance articles
that appeared in the Brodhead news letter. I recommend anyone building a Piet
of GN-1 do this as there is some excellent information there. And if you
are building a GN-1 with a corvair do some serious W&B calcs early on. It may
save you a lot of work.
All this added probably 6 months to my build time. These are the things you don't
think about when you buy someone else's project and don't have the benefit
of what was in their head while constructing. in my case what was in the heads
of at least 3 previous builders. My airplane will no longer be a GN-1 nor
will it be a true Piet. I think I will dub it an Adirondack Aircamper in honor
of its last home before it flies.
Jon Coxwell
GN-1, 100 hp corvair
--------
Jon Coxwell
GN-1 Builder
Recycle and preserve the planet
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404908#404908
________________________________________________________________________________
From: Michael Weston <smikewest(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Model-A throttle response
Date: Jul 18, 2013
two quick questions,1)what carb are you using? 2)what inlet? ok, three, does it
have an accelerator pump?
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Brat Fest III
From: "K5YAC" <hangar10(at)cox.net>
Date: Jul 18, 2013
Looking forward to seeing all of you next week... thanks for the invite
Jack.
--------
Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landing Gear
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404912#404912
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Model-A throttle response
From: "BYD" <billsayre(at)ymail.com>
Date: Jul 18, 2013
smikewest(at)comcast.net wrote:
> two quick questions,1)what carb are you using? 2)what inlet? ok, three, does
it have an accelerator pump?
1) Model-B Zenith (Type 3), 2) not sure what you're asking (inlet) and 3) no, it
doesn't have an accelerator pump.
Think I may have a solution though. Thanks for responding.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404913#404913
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Subject: Re: EAA 534 Piet question
From: "coxwelljon" <coxwelljon(at)frontiernet.net>
Date: Jul 18, 2013
John,
William Wynne makes motor mounts for the Piet. They are quite nice with powder
coat finish and quite light. If you contact him @ Flycorvair.com he will no
doubt tell you exactly what information he needs. BTW my engine weighs closer
to 245# with mostly stock parts and a 5th main bearing. I think the model you
describe would be an excellent candidate for a corvair. Also get some back
issues of the Brodhead news letter and find William Wynne's articles about Weight
and balance.
--------
Jon Coxwell
GN-1 Builder
Recycle and preserve the planet
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404917#404917
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Landing gear springs
From: "nightair" <nightair(at)shaw.ca>
Date: Jul 18, 2013
Hello. I am looking for an opinion regarding the use of the 06-13200 coil spring
on the Pietenpol gear. I have a scratch built tail dragger, single seat, 430
lbs empty, 650 max. Are these springs overkill for this aircraft weight.?
If so can someone recommend a lighter spring.
Thanks
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404918#404918
________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Jack Phillips" <jack(at)bedfordlandings.com>
Subject: Painting, step 1
Date: Jul 19, 2013
Something wrong here, Ken. Your shop looks way too neat.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ken Bickers
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 10:44 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Painting, step 1
Yesterday, I framed up a booth for doing some painting. Still some work to
go to brace it, enclose it, and fit it out with lights, etc. But squirting
paint is in the near future. Cheers, Ken
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Live Video Feed at Brodhead
From: Jack <jack(at)textors.com>
Date: Jul 19, 2013
Friends,
Could anyone share advice on providing a feed from Brodhead. I know nothing about it like could it be run on my site www.textors.com? What is needed? I have cameras, wireless card, computer, etc...
Sent from my iPad
Jack Textor
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: WX forecast for Chicago (Brodhead)
From: helspersew(at)aol.com
Date: Jul 19, 2013
So far it looks like the easterly contingent might have to dodge a few stor
ms, but a nice cool front is cleaning everything out for Thursday.
http://www.chicagoweathercenter.com/forecast/
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Live Video Feed at Brodhead
From: airlion2(at)gmail.com
Date: Jul 19, 2013
Also, is there a charging station set up? Gardiner
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 19, 2013, at 6:42 AM, Jack wrote:
>
> Friends,
> Could anyone share advice on providing a feed from Brodhead. I know nothing about it like could it be run on my site www.textors.com? What is needed? I have cameras, wireless card, computer, etc...
>
> Sent from my iPad
> Jack Textor
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Live Video Feed at Brodhead
Date: Jul 19, 2013
Lotta smart guys on this list, Jack, but you might try sending that question
to Matt Dralle directly. Good idea!
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 3:42 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Live Video Feed at Brodhead
Friends,
Could anyone share advice on providing a feed from Brodhead. I know nothing
about it like could it be run on my site www.textors.com? What is needed? I
have cameras, wireless card, computer, etc...
Sent from my iPad
Jack Textor
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From: "Ralph" <ralphhsd(at)itctel.com>
Subject: Re: Brat Fest III
Date: Jul 19, 2013
Thanks for hosting the brat fest. Two from South Dakota plan on
attending.
Ralph
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Date: Jul 19, 2013
Subject: Re: Painting, step 1
From: Ken Bickers <bickers.ken(at)gmail.com>
Jack, not to worry. The camera was carefully pointed to avoid the messes.
Here's the finished booth, ready for paint to be squirted later today.
Cheers, Ken
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 4:11 AM, Jack Phillips wrote:
> Something wrong here, Ken. Your shop looks way too neat.****
>
> ** **
>
> Jack Phillips****
>
> NX899JP****
>
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia****
>
> ** **
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Bickers
> *Sent:* Monday, July 15, 2013 10:44 AM
> *To:* pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
> *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: Painting, step 1****
>
> ** **
>
> Yesterday, I framed up a booth for doing some painting. Still some work
> to go to brace it, enclose it, and fit it out with lights, etc. But
> squirting paint is in the near future. Cheers, Ken****
>
> *
>
>
> *
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From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" <michael.d.cuy(at)nasa.gov>
Subject: Live feed from Brodhead----this morning!
Date: Jul 19, 2013
Jack-here's the current image from the Bratcam that they have setup at the
airport from Brodhead.....
[cid:image001.png(at)01CE8463.0576E5F0]
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From: "l.morlock" <l.morlock(at)att.net>
Subject: Re: Painting, step 1
Date: Jul 19, 2013
Ken, that looks similar to the one I made big enough for a one-piece
wing. I hung mine from the rafters.
Larry Morlock
----- Original Message -----
From: Ken Bickers
To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 9:22 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Painting, step 1
Jack, not to worry. The camera was carefully pointed to avoid the
messes. Here's the finished booth, ready for paint to be squirted later
today. Cheers, Ken
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 4:11 AM, Jack Phillips
wrote:
Something wrong here, Ken. Your shop looks way too neat.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ken
Bickers
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 10:44 AM
To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Painting, step 1
Yesterday, I framed up a booth for doing some painting. Still some
work to go to brace it, enclose it, and fit it out with lights, etc.
But squirting paint is in the near future. Cheers, Ken
" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
tp://forums.matronics.com
_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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Subject: Re: Brat Fest III
From: "dgaldrich" <dgaldrich(at)embarqmail.com>
Date: Jul 19, 2013
Sue and I will be there. Looks like another good year at Brodhead.
Dave
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Subject: Re: Brat Fest III
From: "curtdm(at)gmail.com" <curtdm(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jul 19, 2013
Thanks for the invite! I'll be there solo this year.
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Curt Merdan
Flower Mound, TX
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Subject: Re: Live feed from Brodhead----this morning!
From: "echobravo4" <eab4(at)comcast.net>
Date: Jul 19, 2013
Nice!
I heard there are going to be airplanes at Bratfest too!
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Earl Brown
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I
intended to be.
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Subject: Re: Live feed from Brodhead----this morning!
From: Jack <jack(at)textors.com>
Date: Jul 19, 2013
What the heck is going on there today? Maybe the worlds largest but not the b
est! :)
Sent from my iPad
Jack Textor
On Jul 19, 2013, at 8:33 AM, "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, L
LC]" wrote:
>
> Jack=94here=99s the current image from the Bratcam that they h
ave setup at the airport from Brodhead..
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>
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From: "Barry Davis" <bed(at)mindspring.com>
Subject: Painting, step 1
Date: Jul 19, 2013
Ken
It would be better to have your exhaust fan on the floor. The way it is, you
are having the overspray climb up to the ceiling and cross the freshly
painted parts. The trick is to let the overspray fall down near the floor
(gravity) and let it exit the booth without being deposited on anything else
except the floor (pulled up and across a wing will cause dry overspray).
This also allows the air to move across the booth near the floor and not set
up swirls and currents. In my paint booth for cars, the intake is in the
ceiling and the exhaust fan is in the floor in the middle of the booth so
the spray goes under the car and out. Always paint in the direction of from
the intake to the exhaust to minimize overspray.
Also be sure to stick a scrap piece of fabric (about 8"x8") over the back of
the box fan in the center over the motor. This will keep most of the
overspray out of the fan motor. In Harold's homebuilt Pietenpol Paint Booth,
our first box fan lasted about a month without the fabric and the second
lasted through painting 5 Pietenpols.
My 2 cents
Barry
NX973BP
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ken Bickers
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 9:22 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Painting, step 1
Jack, not to worry. The camera was carefully pointed to avoid the messes.
Here's the finished booth, ready for paint to be squirted later today.
Cheers, Ken
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 4:11 AM, Jack Phillips
wrote:
Something wrong here, Ken. Your shop looks way too neat.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ken Bickers
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 10:44 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Painting, step 1
Yesterday, I framed up a booth for doing some painting. Still some work to
go to brace it, enclose it, and fit it out with lights, etc. But squirting
paint is in the near future. Cheers, Ken
" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
tp://forums.matronics.com
_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" <michael.d.cuy(at)nasa.gov>
Subject: Live feed from Brodhead----this morning!
Date: Jul 19, 2013
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Date: Jul 19, 2013
Subject: Re: Painting, step 1
From: Ken Bickers <bickers.ken(at)gmail.com>
Barry, this is great advice and easily accommodated (I used slip fittings
for the PVC that secure the fan and the two air filters). I hadn't thought
about the pattern of overspray. Instead I was thinking about drawing in
cooler air and exhausting warmer air. Cheers, Ken
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Barry Davis wrote:
> Ken****
>
> It would be better to have your exhaust fan on the floor. The way it is,
> you are having the overspray climb up to the ceiling and cross the freshl
y
> painted parts. The trick is to let the overspray fall down near the floor
> (gravity) and let it exit the booth without being deposited on anything
> else except the floor (pulled up and across a wing will cause dry
> overspray). This also allows the air to move across the booth near the
> floor and not set up swirls and currents. In my paint booth for cars, th
e
> intake is in the ceiling and the exhaust fan is in the floor in the midd
le
> of the booth so the spray goes under the car and out. Always paint in the
> direction of from the intake to the exhaust to minimize overspray.****
>
> Also be sure to stick a scrap piece of fabric (about 8=94x8=94) over the
back
> of the box fan in the center over the motor. This will keep most of the
> overspray out of the fan motor. In Harold=92s homebuilt Pietenpol Paint
> Booth, our first box fan lasted about a month without the fabric and the
> second lasted through painting 5 Pietenpols. ****
>
> My 2 cents****
>
> Barry****
>
> NX973BP****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Bickers
>
> *Sent:* Friday, July 19, 2013 9:22 AM
> *To:* pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: Painting, step 1****
>
> ** **
>
> Jack, not to worry. The camera was carefully pointed to avoid the messes
.
> Here's the finished booth, ready for paint to be squirted later today.
> Cheers, Ken****
>
> ** **
>
> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 4:11 AM, Jack Phillips
> wrote:****
>
> Something wrong here, Ken. Your shop looks way too neat.****
>
> ****
>
> Jack Phillips****
>
> NX899JP****
>
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia****
>
> ****
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Bickers
> *Sent:* Monday, July 15, 2013 10:44 AM
> *To:* pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
> *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: Painting, step 1****
>
> ****
>
> Yesterday, I framed up a booth for doing some painting. Still some work
> to go to brace it, enclose it, and fit it out with lights, etc. But
> squirting paint is in the near future. Cheers, Ken****
>
> * *
>
> * *
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> *" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List*
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Subject: Re: Painting, step 1
From: Claude Corbett <isablcorky(at)aol.com>
Date: Jul 19, 2013
Why not try putting hose with running watertocompleteycoverthefloor while.sp
raying. Might save time and lungs
CMC
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 19, 2013, at 11:50 AM, "Barry Davis" wrote:
> Ken
> It would be better to have your exhaust fan on the floor. The way it is, y
ou are having the overspray climb up to the ceiling and cross the freshly pa
inted parts. The trick is to let the overspray fall down near the floor (gra
vity) and let it exit the booth without being deposited on anything else exc
ept the floor (pulled up and across a wing will cause dry overspray). This a
lso allows the air to move across the booth near the floor and not set up sw
irls and currents. In my paint booth for cars, the intake is in the ceiling
and the exhaust fan is in the floor in the middle of the booth so the spra
y goes under the car and out. Always paint in the direction of from the inta
ke to the exhaust to minimize overspray.
> Also be sure to stick a scrap piece of fabric (about 8=9Dx8=9D
) over the back of the box fan in the center over the motor. This will keep m
ost of the overspray out of the fan motor. In Harold=99s homebuilt Pie
tenpol Paint Booth, our first box fan lasted about a month without the fabri
c and the second lasted through painting 5 Pietenpols.
> My 2 cents
> Barry
> NX973BP
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li
st-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ken Bickers
> Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 9:22 AM
> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Painting, step 1
>
> Jack, not to worry. The camera was carefully pointed to avoid the messes.
Here's the finished booth, ready for paint to be squirted later today. Chee
rs, Ken
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 4:11 AM, Jack Phillips w
rote:
> Something wrong here, Ken. Your shop looks way too neat.
>
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li
st-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ken Bickers
> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 10:44 AM
> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Painting, step 1
>
> Yesterday, I framed up a booth for doing some painting. Still some work t
o go to brace it, enclose it, and fit it out with lights, etc. But squirtin
g paint is in the near future. Cheers, Ken
>
>
> " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
>
> tp://forums.matronics.com
> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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Subject: Re: if you helped with "RE-PIET"...
From: "Pieti Lowell" <Lowellcfrank(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Jul 19, 2013
Douwe:
Do I qualify ? I can spell inverted .
Pieti Lowell
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From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB" <steven.d.dortch(at)us.army.mil>
Date: Jul 19, 2013
Subject: Re: Painting, step 1
UNCLASSIFIED
A buddy uses one of the canopy garages as the basis of his paint booth.
On 07/19/13, Ken Bickers wrote:
> Jack, not to worry. The camera was carefully pointed to avoid the messes. Here's
the finished booth, ready for paint to be squirted later today. Cheers,
Ken
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 4:11 AM, Jack Phillips wrote:
>
> >
> > Something wrong here, Ken. Your shop looks way too neat.
> >
> >
> >
> > Jack Phillips
> >
> > NX899JP
> >
> > Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com(blockedmailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com(blockedmailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Ken Bickers
> > Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 10:44 AM
> > To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com(blockedmailto:pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com)
> > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Painting, step 1
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yesterday, I framed up a booth for doing some painting. Still some work to
go to brace it, enclose it, and fit it out with lights, etc. But squirting paint
is in the near future. Cheers, Ken
> >
> >
> >
> > " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
> >
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> >
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From: "Jack" <jack(at)textors.com>
Subject: Live feed from Brodhead----this morning!
Date: Jul 20, 2013
Yet another from next week.No wait that's our old coach.
Jack Textor
Des Moines, IA
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy, Michael
D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 11:50 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Live feed from Brodhead----this morning!
<http://www.airport-data.com/airport/photo/005418.html> Description:
Brodhead Airport (C37) - Brodhead, WI
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From: "John Nauerth III" <proplock(at)federatedwildblue.com>
Subject: Re: Live feed from Brodhead----this morning!
Date: Jul 20, 2013
Oh thou tempest!! One MN. boy will be at brat party, thanks for all the
work. john (proplock)
From: Jack
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 5:40 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Live feed from Brodhead----this morning!
Yet another from next weekNo wait that=99s our old
coach
Jack Textor
Des Moines, IA
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy,
Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 11:50 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Live feed from Brodhead----this morning!
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Date: Jul 20, 2013
From: JOSEPH SWITHIN <joeswithin(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: If you're passing through
As usual I will be off work Thursday so if any of you coming from the east or south
have an issue, let me know.
I live in the Morris, IL area, but can easily get to Joliet, Dwight etc.
My cell is 630-306-9982.
I will be driving up to Brodhead Friday morning.
Here hoping you have severe clear and flawless performance,
Joe
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From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: RE-PIET signature-fest
Date: Jul 20, 2013
Yes Lowell, you qualify! Sign away.
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Subject: Re: Brat Fest III
From: "cjborsuk" <cjborsuk(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Jul 20, 2013
Looking forward to seeing everyone again! Thanks Jack!
Chuck
Raleigh NC
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Subject: Update/Progress
From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee(at)us.army.mil>
Date: Jul 22, 2013
Hi - Here are a few photos of progress on the rebuild. Also one of me & Shelley
in front of Gary's airplane from June. Thanks to Gary for letting me fly it.
We attended the West Coast Piet gathering & had a great time.
A couple of things not apparent from the photos: the engine ran at Corvair College
24 last November, the fuel tank is done, and I bought a beautifully crafted
engine mount from William Wynne which is sitting in the garage ready for installation.
Today is the one year anniversary of the accident. We're blessed beyond belief.
My personal recovery has been nothing short of miraculous. The support from
this group has been extraordinary. Many of you have been extremely generous
and helpful and we appreciate it.
Shelley's mentioned we won't make Brodhead this year due to work commitments.
We tried, I promise. We'll do our best next year. In the meantime, know that
we're with you in spirit and give each other hugs for us.
Thank you for your love and friendship.
--------
Kevin "Axel" Purtee
Rebuilding NX899KP
Austin/San Marcos, TX
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=405062#405062
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http://forums.matronics.com//files/piet_wings_etc_139.jpg
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http://forums.matronics.com//files/piet_shelley_and_kevin_202.jpg
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Subject: Re: Update/Progress
From: helspersew(at)aol.com
Date: Jul 22, 2013
Beautiful Kevin. Can't believe all the progress in one year. Praising God f
or the outcome. We'll all miss you and Shelley.
Douwe Blumberg, Gene Rambo, Will Rambo, Jack Phillips and Matt Paxon are fi
x'in to pass through here on Wednesday. Douwe is heading for Brodhead right
away. Gene and the rest will sack-out over here till early Thursday mornin
g, then on to Brodhead with our four Piets!
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL. (Now)
-----Original Message-----
From: kevinpurtee <kevin.purtee(at)us.army.mil>
Sent: Mon, Jul 22, 2013 8:26 am
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Update/Progress
il>
Hi - Here are a few photos of progress on the rebuild. Also one of me & Sh
elley
in front of Gary's airplane from June. Thanks to Gary for letting me fly i
t.
We attended the West Coast Piet gathering & had a great time.
A couple of things not apparent from the photos: the engine ran at Corvair
College 24 last November, the fuel tank is done, and I bought a beautifull
y
crafted engine mount from William Wynne which is sitting in the garage read
y for
installation.
Today is the one year anniversary of the accident. We're blessed beyond be
lief.
My personal recovery has been nothing short of miraculous. The support fro
m
this group has been extraordinary. Many of you have been extremely generou
s and
helpful and we appreciate it.
Shelley's mentioned we won't make Brodhead this year due to work commitment
s.
We tried, I promise. We'll do our best next year. In the meantime, know t
hat
we're with you in spirit and give each other hugs for us.
Thank you for your love and friendship.
--------
Kevin "Axel" Purtee
Rebuilding NX899KP
Austin/San Marcos, TX
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=405062#405062
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http://forums.matronics.com//files/piet_wings_etc_139.jpg
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http://forums.matronics.com//files/piet_shelley_and_kevin_202.jpg
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Date: Jul 22, 2013
Subject: Re: Update/Progress
From: Ken Bickers <bickers.ken(at)gmail.com>
Kevin,
It's great to see how far along both you and the Piet have progressed. I
hope to see you at Brodhead next year or perhaps in San Marcos for the CC.
My best to you and Shelley, Ken
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 8:14 AM, wrote:
> Beautiful Kevin. Can't believe all the progress in one year. Praising
> God for the outcome. We'll all miss you and Shelley.
>
> Douwe Blumberg, Gene Rambo, Will Rambo, Jack Phillips and Matt Paxon are
> fix'in to pass through here on Wednesday. Douwe is heading for Brodhead
> right away. Gene and the rest will sack-out over here till early Thursday
> morning, then on to Brodhead with our four Piets!
>
> Dan Helsper
> Poplar Grove, IL. (Now)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: kevinpurtee <kevin.purtee(at)us.army.mil>
> To: pietenpol-list
> Sent: Mon, Jul 22, 2013 8:26 am
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Update/Progress
>
>
> Hi - Here are a few photos of progress on the rebuild. Also one of me & Shelley
> in front of Gary's airplane from June. Thanks to Gary for letting me fly it.
> We attended the West Coast Piet gathering & had a great time.
>
> A couple of things not apparent from the photos: the engine ran at Corvair
> College 24 last November, the fuel tank is done, and I bought a beautifully
> crafted engine mount from William Wynne which is sitting in the garage ready
for
> installation.
>
> Today is the one year anniversary of the accident. We're blessed beyond belief.
> My personal recovery has been nothing short of miraculous. The support from
> this group has been extraordinary. Many of you have been extremely generous
and
> helpful and we appreciate it.
>
> Shelley's mentioned we won't make Brodhead this year due to work commitments.
> We tried, I promise. We'll do our best next year. In the meantime, know that
> we're with you in spirit and give each other hugs for us.
>
> Thank you for your love and friendship.
>
> --------
> Kevin "Axel" Purtee
> Rebuilding NX899KP
> Austin/San Marcos, TX
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=405062#405062
>
>
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Subject: Re: Brat Fest III
From: "PatrickW" <pwhoyt(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Jul 22, 2013
Mary & I are looking forward to seeing you again!
Patrick Hoyt
N63PZ
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Subject: Re: Update/Progress
From: Lion Mason <airlion2(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jul 22, 2013
Hi Dan where are y'all leaving from and when? I tried yesterday bit didn't g
et very far. I still weathered In here in Lagrange and will try again tom
orrow. Gardiner
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 22, 2013, at 10:14 AM, helspersew(at)aol.com wrote:
> Beautiful Kevin. Can't believe all the progress in one year. Praising God f
or the outcome. We'll all miss you and Shelley.
>
> Douwe Blumberg, Gene Rambo, Will Rambo, Jack Phillips and Matt Paxon are f
ix'in to pass through here on Wednesday. Douwe is heading for Brodhead right
away. Gene and the rest will sack-out over here till early Thursday morning
, then on to Brodhead with our four Piets!
>
> Dan Helsper
> Poplar Grove, IL. (Now)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: kevinpurtee <kevin.purtee(at)us.army.mil>
> To: pietenpol-list
> Sent: Mon, Jul 22, 2013 8:26 am
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Update/Progress
>
mil>
>
> Hi - Here are a few photos of progress on the rebuild. Also one of me & S
helley
> in front of Gary's airplane from June. Thanks to Gary for letting me fly i
t.
> We attended the West Coast Piet gathering & had a great time.
>
> A couple of things not apparent from the photos: the engine ran at Corvair
> College 24 last November, the fuel tank is done, and I bought a beautiful
ly
> crafted engine mount from William Wynne which is sitting in the garage rea
dy for
> installation.
>
> Today is the one year anniversary of the accident. We're blessed beyond b
elief.
> My personal recovery has been nothing short of miraculous. The support fr
om
> this group has been extraordinary. Many of you have been extremely genero
us and
> helpful and we appreciate it.
>
> Shelley's mentioned we won't make Brodhead this year due to work commitmen
ts.
> We tried, I promise. We'll do our best next year. In the meantime, know t
hat
> we're with you in spirit and give each other hugs for us.
>
> Thank you for your love and friendship.
>
> --------
> Kevin "Axel" Purtee
> Rebuilding NX899KP
> Austin/San Marcos, TX
>
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Date: Jul 22, 2013
From: Robert Rice <ricekrgr(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Brodhead
=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A=0A-=0A-Hi,=0A-=0AIs t
he fly-in open to the public? I am very interseted in the Pietenpol designs
and would like to see them live and up close.=0A-=0AThanks,=0ABob
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Date: Jul 22, 2013
Subject: Re: Brodhead
From: Ken Bickers <bickers.ken(at)gmail.com>
Yes, you don't even need a wristband.
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Robert Rice wrote:
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> * *
> * Hi,*
> **
> *Is the fly-in open to the public? I am very interseted in the Pietenpol
> designs and would like to see them live and up close.*
> **
> *Thanks,*
> *Bob*
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Date: Jul 22, 2013
From: Hans van der Voort <nx15kv(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Update/Progress
Looking good Kevin.=0A-=0AIf it makes you feel any better, my work commit
ments are getting in the way too.=0A-=0AKeep building=0A-=0AHans=0A-
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, July 22, 2013 8:25 AM=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: Update/Progress=0A =0A
y.mil>=0A=0AHi - Here are a few photos of progress on the rebuild.- Also
one of me & Shelley in front of Gary's airplane from June.- Thanks to Gar
y for letting me fly it.- We attended the West Coast Piet gathering & had
a great time.=0A=0AA couple of things not apparent from the photos: the en
gine ran at Corvair College 24 last November,- the fuel tank is done, and
I bought a beautifully crafted engine mount from William Wynne which is si
tting in the garage ready for installation.- =0A=0AToday is the one year
anniversary of the accident.- We're blessed beyond belief.- My personal
recovery has been nothing short of miraculous.- The support from this gr
oup has been extraordinary.- Many of you have been extremely generous and
helpful and we appreciate it.- =0A=0AShelley's mentioned we won't make B
rodhead this year due to work commitments.- We tried, I promise.- We'll
do our best next year.- In the meantime, know that we're with you in spi
rit and give each other hugs for us.=0A=0AThank you for your love and frien
dship.=0A=0A--------=0AKevin "Axel" Purtee=0ARebuilding NX899KP
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Subject: Re: Update/Progress
From: helspersew(at)aol.com
Date: Jul 22, 2013
Gardiner,
I am in Poplar Grove Airport C77. The grand plan is to leave from here earl
y Thursday morning. It is only 28 naut. miles to Brodhead from here.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL
-----Original Message-----
From: Lion Mason <airlion2(at)gmail.com>
Sent: Mon, Jul 22, 2013 10:10 am
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Update/Progress
Hi Dan where are y'all leaving from and when? I tried yesterday bit didn't
get very far. I still weathered In here in Lagrange and will try again
tomorrow. Gardiner
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 22, 2013, at 10:14 AM, helspersew(at)aol.com wrote:
Beautiful Kevin. Can't believe all the progress in one year. Praising God f
or the outcome. We'll all miss you and Shelley.
Douwe Blumberg, Gene Rambo, Will Rambo, Jack Phillips and Matt Paxon are fi
x'in to pass through here on Wednesday. Douwe is heading for Brodhead right
away. Gene and the rest will sack-out over here till early Thursday mornin
g, then on to Brodhead with our four Piets!
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL. (Now)
-----Original Message-----
From: kevinpurtee <kevin.purtee(at)us.army.mil>
Sent: Mon, Jul 22, 2013 8:26 am
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Update/Progress
il>
Hi - Here are a few photos of progress on the rebuild. Also one of me & Sh
elley
in front of Gary's airplane from June. Thanks to Gary for letting me fly i
t.
We attended the West Coast Piet gathering & had a great time.
A couple of things not apparent from the photos: the engine ran at Corvair
College 24 last November, the fuel tank is done, and I bought a beautifull
y
crafted engine mount from William Wynne which is sitting in the garage read
y for
installation.
Today is the one year anniversary of the accident. We're blessed beyond be
lief.
My personal recovery has been nothing short of miraculous. The support fro
m
this group has been extraordinary. Many of you have been extremely generou
s and
helpful and we appreciate it.
Shelley's mentioned we won't make Brodhead this year due to work commitment
s.
We tried, I promise. We'll do our best next year. In the meantime, know t
hat
we're with you in spirit and give each other hugs for us.
Thank you for your love and friendship.
--------
Kevin "Axel" Purtee
Rebuilding NX899KP
Austin/San Marcos, TX
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Subject: Re: Update/Progress
From: "dwilson" <marwilson(at)charter.net>
Date: Jul 22, 2013
Kevin, Really who is that standing next to you in front of Gary's Piet? And,
how about a list of things your going to do differently on the re-do. New engine
mount, what else? Glad to see the two of you doing well...
Dan
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Subject: Four-blader
From: helspersew(at)aol.com
Date: Jul 22, 2013
Good folks,
Could only get it to turn up 1600 RPM static and 220 lbs. on the fish scale
. Now it will become a wall hanger, or does somebody with some more horsepo
wer want to actually try this thing? I put my curvy prop back on for Brodhe
ad. Ready to go on Thursday!
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL
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Subject: Re: Four-blader
From: Jack <jack(at)textors.com>
Date: Jul 22, 2013
Love it Dan! Looking forward to getting together soon! BTW any ideas on the f
ield condition, dry, wet? My bus weighs quite a bit at 49,000 pounds...
Sent from my iPad
Jack Textor
On Jul 22, 2013, at 4:37 PM, helspersew(at)aol.com wrote:
> Good folks,
>
> Could only get it to turn up 1600 RPM static and 220 lbs. on the fish scal
e. Now it will become a wall hanger, or does somebody with some more horsepo
wer want to actually try this thing? I put my curvy prop back on for Brodhea
d. Ready to go on Thursday!
>
> Dan Helsper
> Poplar Grove, IL
>
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From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: final packing!!
Date: Jul 22, 2013
Well, moving into the final phase of organizing, packing, unpacking,
repacking, weeding out to get the perfect travelling load for the Brodhead
flight.
WX is looking like it'll cooperate for a early Wed departure.
Leaving the northern KY area to Glenndale IN to fuel and stretch. Avoiding
Chicago airspace, I'm onto to Poplar Grove IF the winds are kind (which it
doesn't appear they will be), so extra fuel stop at Lowell airport in
Illinois (wonderful old couple run it, said I could buy fuel if they weren't
at doctors visits, gotta see this place!) then on to the holy grail,
BRODHEAD!!
Officially I'm using antique Texaco roadmaps and following railways.
Unofficially, I'm using my GPS backed up by charts cut up on a kneeboard
upon which I can mark my location from the gps every ten miles in case the
gps pukes out, I"ll kinda know where I am.
Trying to stay true to the Pietenpol spirit, so I'm packing a couple peanut
butter and jelly sandwiches, a candy bar and a soda; an old army rucksack
with some clothes, my sleeping bag and a pillow plus tie downs, a quart of
oil, tools, cockpit covers etc.
Got 22 gallons squeezed into the tank (pardon the gas smelling cockpit
cushions.), checked the clincher tires (gotta have 55-60 psi on those bad
boys), did my annual condition inspection and the only squawk was a couple
of loose prop bolts. Check those four times a year folks, especially a new
prop like mine; they like to change shape with the weather, and squish
down.
Gonna take lots of pics and maybe write a story for the newsletter. It's
about 330 nm each way, so lots of people are flying MUCH farther, but it
still seems like a big adventure to me, and the fulfillment of ten years of
being at Brodhead saying "this'll be the last year I DRIVE up!!!"
Please pray for my safety, and for that of everyone else coming up. Hope to
see you all there!!!
Douwe
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Subject: Re: final packing!!
From: "Pieti Lowell" <Lowellcfrank(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Jul 22, 2013
Douwe :
My first Pietenpol trip from Florida to Wisconsin was with, road maps, open cockpit
and wind is not as good as the GPS, which we never had;
Have a great experience that you will never forget,
See you soon.
Pieti Lowell
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Subject: Re: final packing!!
From: Jack <jack(at)textors.com>
Date: Jul 22, 2013
Praying for you all, will buy you a brat!
Sent from my iPad
Jack Textor
On Jul 22, 2013, at 7:56 PM, "Douwe Blumberg" w
rote:
> Well, moving into the final phase of organizing, packing, unpacking, repac
king, weeding out to get the perfect travelling load for the Brodhead flight
.
>
> WX is looking like it=99ll cooperate for a early Wed departure.
>
> Leaving the northern KY area to Glenndale IN to fuel and stretch. Avoidin
g Chicago airspace, I=99m onto to Poplar Grove IF the winds are kind (
which it doesn=99t appear they will be), so extra fuel stop at Lowell a
irport in Illinois (wonderful old couple run it, said I could buy fuel if th
ey weren=99t at doctors visits, gotta see this place!) then on to the h
oly grail, BRODHEAD!!
>
> Officially I=99m using antique Texaco roadmaps and following railway
s. Unofficially, I=99m using my GPS backed up by charts cut up on a k
neeboard upon which I can mark my location from the gps every ten miles in c
ase the gps pukes out, I=9Dll kinda know where I am.
>
> Trying to stay true to the Pietenpol spirit, so I=99m packing a coup
le peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, a candy bar and a soda; an old army r
ucksack with some clothes, my sleeping bag and a pillow plus tie downs, a qu
art of oil, tools, cockpit covers etc.
>
> Got 22 gallons squeezed into the tank (pardon the gas smelling cockpit cus
hions), checked the clincher tires (gotta have 55-60 psi on those b
ad boys), did my annual condition inspection and the only squawk was a coupl
e of loose prop bolts. Check those four times a year folks, especially a ne
w prop like mine; they like to change shape with the weather, and squish do
wn.
>
> Gonna take lots of pics and maybe write a story for the newsletter. It
=99s about 330 nm each way, so lots of people are flying MUCH farther, bu
t it still seems like a big adventure to me, and the fulfillment of ten year
s of being at Brodhead saying =9Cthis=99ll be the last year I DR
IVE up!!!=9D
>
> Please pray for my safety, and for that of everyone else coming up. Hope t
o see you all there!!!
>
> Douwe
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Subject: Re: final packing!!
From: "Don Emch" <EmchAir(at)aol.com>
Date: Jul 22, 2013
Douwe,
I've stopped in Lowell a couple of times. Once while buying gas there I saw they
had some homemade jelly for sale on the counter. I think it was a whopping
$0.75! Got a real kick out of the sign that asked folks to please return the
jar when finished. Enjoy these places while you can.
Don Emch
NX899DE
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Subject: tires & tubes
From: "taildrags" <taildrags(at)hotmail.com>
Date: Jul 22, 2013
OK, so I need to replace one of the tires on Scout. I've been using 6.00x6 "Aero
Trainer" (formerly McCreary) 6-ply ribbed tires on my Cub style gear. Roughly
$70/tire. I've been looking at the "Aero Classic All-Weather" as offered
by Aircraft Spruce, same size and ply rating but they have a sort of cross-hatch
pattern on the edges that makes them look a little like Stearman/Kaydet style
tires from the side. They are twice the price... $140/tire. Anybody using
these tires?
And a more generic question, regarding tubes. Everything I've read says to replace
tubes when replacing tires. It is a bit of a pain to replace or repair a
tube when one needs patching, so I can understand the aggravation factor, but
does anyone know of any other reason why tubes can't or shouldn't be re-used?
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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From: "Jack" <jack(at)textors.com>
Subject: Brodhead
Date: Jul 23, 2013
Yes Bob, a great group. Please stop by for a brat Friday at 11:30, SE side
of the field.
Jack Textor
Des Moines, IA
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert Rice
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 12:50 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead
Hi,
Is the fly-in open to the public? I am very interseted in the Pietenpol
designs and would like to see them live and up close.
Thanks,
Bob
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Subject: Final packing, and wx forecast for Monroe, WI
From: helspersew(at)aol.com
Date: Jul 23, 2013
Douwe,
Good luck my friend. Sounds like you are ready to go for sure. Check out th
is forecast for Brodhead. You might even need to pack a jacket!
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL
Tuesday
Mostly sunny
Hi 79=C2=B0
Low 54=C2=B0
Wednesday
Mostly sunny
Hi 78=C2=B0
Low 59=C2=B0
Thursday
Sunny
Hi 82=C2=B0
Low 64=C2=B0
Friday
Slight chance of a thunderstorm
Hi 82=C2=B0
Low 57=C2=B0
Saturday
Partly cloudy
Hi 74=C2=B0
Low 55=C2=B0
Sunday
Times of sun and clouds
Hi 78=C2=B0
Low 57=C2=B0
Monday
Times of sun and clouds
Hi 80=C2=B0
Low 63=C2=B0
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Subject: Re: Four-blader
From: helspersew(at)aol.com
Date: Jul 23, 2013
Jack,
I wouldn't suspect you would have any trouble with the bus. Last night we h
ad a bit of a T storm but not too much rain, and I'm not sure how local it
was either. The grounds at Brodhead should be beautifully green this year (
as opposed to the dry-stubble-for-grass we had last year). Right now the su
n is shining bright right into my eyes as I sit here in McDonald's. The wx
is shaping up to be glorious.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL
-----Original Message-----
From: Jack <jack(at)textors.com>
Sent: Mon, Jul 22, 2013 7:48 pm
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Four-blader
Love it Dan! Looking forward to getting together soon! BTW any ideas on the
field condition, dry, wet? My bus weighs quite a bit at 49,000 pounds...
Sent from my iPad
Jack Textor
On Jul 22, 2013, at 4:37 PM, helspersew(at)aol.com wrote:
Good folks,
Could only get it to turn up 1600 RPM static and 220 lbs. on the fish scale
. Now it will become a wall hanger, or does somebody with some more horsepo
wer want to actually try this thing? I put my curvy prop back on for Brodhe
ad. Ready to go on Thursday!
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL
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From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" <michael.d.cuy(at)nasa.gov>
Subject: wood prop bolts
Date: Jul 23, 2013
Douwe-How EXCITING this preparation must be for you! I'm thrilled you'll
be able to fire up Wednesday morning and start your journey. Add 30 minut
es at each fuel stop for onlookers and questions. (maybe more with your b
eautiful plane!)
Your catch of loose prop bolts on your condition inspection was just fantas
tic! That is a good reminder to all of us that we should check our prop
bolt torque more often than not, especially living in areas of the country
that experience wide variations in temperature and humidity.
That is really high PSI you're running on your clincher tires. I'd like t
o hear more about that at Brodhead. I'm running about 25psi on my motorcyc
le tires. Maybe there is something different about your setup/ clinchers.
Interesting!
You'll feel a great sense of satisfaction approaching Brodhead by air inste
ad of car for the very FIRST time ever after all of your years coming. On
e thing that might surprise you is that from certain angles, Brodhead airpo
rt is difficult to spot! Trust your Texaco map, gps, and gut and remember
that the airport will pretty much look like everything else!
Mike C.
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From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB" <steven.d.dortch(at)us.army.mil>
Date: Jul 23, 2013
Subject: Re: tires & tubes
UNCLASSIFIED
Now I can pontificate on my dated research on tires.
Should you buy an expensive or cheap tire? What does an expensive tire do that
a cheap tire doesn't do? If you are comparing apples to apples (Same size and
ply) then your decision should be based on how you use your plane.
A Cessna 150, being used at a flight school, doing 100 touch and goes per week
can go with a good cheap tire like the aero trainer.
If you fly the Rolls Royce of the air (A Vtail Beechcraft Bonanza) and you only
use it to go on trips to the spa every other weekend (4 Takeoffs and landings
per month) then you should get a high quality (and cost) tire like a Flight Custom
III.
Basically what you get with an expensive tire is superior weather and age resistance.
They will last longer on a calendar dates with moderate or low use. An
Aerotrainer and a Flight Custom III will last about the same amount of landings
if they are used frequently. An Aero Trainer will not last near as long tied
down on the ramp in the weather as a Flight Custom III.
Key elements of tire life. Air pressure, exposure to chemicals, sun and weather
exposure. Keep them inflated to the right pressure, don't let them soak in gas
or other chemicals, and keep your plane in a hangar preferably that does not
flood. As the tire ages, the cheaper tire will start to harden and wear faster
than the more expensive tire.
Aviation retreads actually are a very good deal and have an excellent record. They
have a carcass that has been proven and are inspected before reuse. Dresser
tires sells them. I would not hesitate to buy a set.
On my Old Cessna 150 I went through two sets of Aerotrainers, lots of touch and
goes. On my Vtail I have a set of Flight Custom IIs that have been on for 8 years
and still have a lot of life in them.
Blue Skies,
Steve D.
Of course for Oscar it is really important to look good. Remember "It is not important
how you feel, it is how you look that is important."
UNCLASSIFIED
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Date: Jul 23, 2013
From: Jim Markle <jim_markle(at)mindspring.com>
Subject: Life is good!
ESPECIALLY if you're headed to Brodhead! Sure wish I was!
I am joining several others in the ranks of "CONTINUING to think about Brodhead
EVERY waking moment" this week but don't get to be there this year. Maybe if
I get up early and play a video of a Model A flying overhead to start my day...
And John G or anyone from Baja Oklahoma headed up through this area...STOP BY!!!
There's a grass strip a mile from here and several small airports...and we
have plenty of room....(cell: 214.505.6101)
PLEASE fly safe.
Vacuum bagging in Pryor,
Jim
Rear Admiral
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Date: Jul 23, 2013
From: Rick Schreiber <lmforge(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: final packing!!
On 7/22/2013 7:56 PM, Douwe Blumberg wrote:
>
> Well, moving into the final phase of organizing, packing, unpacking,
> repacking, weeding out to get the perfect travelling load for the
> Brodhead flight.
>
> WX is looking like it'll cooperate for a early Wed departure.
>
> Leaving the northern KY area to Glenndale IN to fuel and stretch.
> Avoiding Chicago airspace, I'm onto to Poplar Grove IF the winds are
> kind (which it doesn't appear they will be), so extra fuel stop at
> Lowell airport in Illinois (wonderful old couple run it, said I could
> buy fuel if they weren't at doctors visits, gotta see this place!)
> then on to the holy grail, BRODHEAD!!
>
> Officially I'm using antique Texaco roadmaps and following railways.
> Unofficially, I'm using my GPS backed up by charts cut up on a
> kneeboard upon which I can mark my location from the gps every ten
> miles in case the gps pukes out, I"ll kinda know where I am.
>
> Trying to stay true to the Pietenpol spirit, so I'm packing a couple
> peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, a candy bar and a soda; an old
> army rucksack with some clothes, my sleeping bag and a pillow plus tie
> downs, a quart of oil, tools, cockpit covers etc.
>
> Got 22 gallons squeezed into the tank (pardon the gas smelling cockpit
> cushions...), checked the clincher tires (gotta have 55-60 psi on
> those bad boys), did my annual condition inspection and the only
> squawk was a couple of loose prop bolts. Check those four times a
> year folks, especially a new prop like mine; they like to change
> shape with the weather, and squish down.
>
> Gonna take lots of pics and maybe write a story for the newsletter.
> It's about 330 nm each way, so lots of people are flying MUCH farther,
> but it still seems like a big adventure to me, and the fulfillment of
> ten years of being at Brodhead saying "this'll be the last year I
> DRIVE up!!!"
>
> Please pray for my safety, and for that of everyone else coming up.
> Hope to see you all there!!!
>
> Douwe
>
>
Douwe,
Another great place to stop for gas besides Lowell (which is in Indiana
not Illinois) is Starke Co. Indiana (OXI). Starke Co. is about 38 miles
due east of Lowell and they have a very nice E/W grass strip. Starke Co
also has the cheapest gas around. Starke is a great facility, very
friendly people, just check out the comments on airnav.com.
I'm just NW of Starke Co. at Porter Co. (VPZ). Thats where I have my
Piet. Since its not painted yet, Jim Haklin and I will be flying to
Brodhead in my Tripacer around 1:00 on Thursday. I had wanted to see
everyone at Dan's in Poplar Grove, but I'm sure you will all be on your
way by the time we get out.
Rick Schreiber
NX478RS
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Subject: Re: Life is good!
From: "John Francis" <Mrkringles(at)msn.com>
Date: Jul 23, 2013
Yep, going to miss Brodhead this year. Am packing myself for a short trip in the
camper to Hagarstown, IN for a fly-in and then on to the Dirksen farm for their
fly in. I'll be taking a few lessons this weekend at Red Stewart Field in
Waynesville and will be thinking about you guys and gals. Looks like a great
year to camp!
Have fun,
John
--------
John Francis
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=405154#405154
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Subject: Re: tires & tubes
From: "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld(at)lacity.org>
Date: Jul 23, 2013
Oscar,
I have a theory regarding the tubes that I live by. When I replace a tire I also
replace the tube. Then I keep the old tube around so I have a spare one. This
is my insurance policy that I will never need it, cause as sure as I don't
replace it or don't keep the old one near by I will get a flat.
As far as the tires go, I think I would elect to install the other landing gear
and spoke wheels you showed us the other day :) It would look very cool with
them.
--------
Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=405155#405155
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Subject: Re: Life is good!
From: "echobravo4" <eab4(at)comcast.net>
Date: Jul 23, 2013
Gonna miss ya Jim!
--------
Earl Brown
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I
intended to be.
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=405160#405160
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Subject: Do you have 100LL
From: Jeff Wilson <jlwilsonnn(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Jul 23, 2013
Gentlemen of Brodhead, do you have 100 LL to sell to us? I've only briefly followed
the chatter here but have not heard mention of fuel availability. We're with
Chapter 64 in Cahokia, IL. AKA Scrounge Dawg Aviation. Restoring a early '70's
Grega/Piet. It should be there by next year. (That's what we said in 2011)
So a couple of us are coming up in C-150's then on to the Mecca.
To fuel up there would save us a hop to KEFT.
Jeff Wilson
St. Louis
Also building a Piet, fuse. & wings framed. A-65 power.
Sent from my iPhone
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Date: Jul 23, 2013
Subject: Re: Life is good!
From: Ken Bickers <bickers.ken(at)gmail.com>
All,
Like Jim, I'll be at home wishing I was with all of you who are convening
at Brodhead. Enjoy the brats, the friendship, endless lines from Waldo
Pepper, the sounds of motors in the morning, and the thrill of first time
arrivals.
Knowing that the next Brodhead is only a year away serves as powerful
motivation to double down on the remainder of my project.
My thoughts are with you, Ken
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 6:47 AM, Jim Markle wrote:
> jim_markle(at)mindspring.com>
>
> ESPECIALLY if you're headed to Brodhead! Sure wish I was!
>
> I am joining several others in the ranks of "CONTINUING to think about
> Brodhead EVERY waking moment" this week but don't get to be there this
> year. Maybe if I get up early and play a video of a Model A flying
> overhead to start my day...
>
> And John G or anyone from Baja Oklahoma headed up through this area...STOP
> BY!!! There's a grass strip a mile from here and several small
> airports...and we have plenty of room....(cell: 214.505.6101)
>
> PLEASE fly safe.
>
> Vacuum bagging in Pryor,
> Jim
> Rear Admiral
>
>
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Subject: Re: Do you have 100LL
From: Jack <jack(at)textors.com>
Date: Jul 23, 2013
Yes Jeff 100LL and ethanol free Mogas
Sent from my iPad
Jack Textor
On Jul 23, 2013, at 9:34 AM, Jeff Wilson wrote:
>
> Gentlemen of Brodhead, do you have 100 LL to sell to us? I've only briefly followed
the chatter here but have not heard mention of fuel availability. We're
with Chapter 64 in Cahokia, IL. AKA Scrounge Dawg Aviation. Restoring a early
'70's Grega/Piet. It should be there by next year. (That's what we said in 2011)
> So a couple of us are coming up in C-150's then on to the Mecca.
> To fuel up there would save us a hop to KEFT.
>
> Jeff Wilson
> St. Louis
> Also building a Piet, fuse. & wings framed. A-65 power.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
>
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Date: Jul 23, 2013
Subject: Engine stand for sale will deliver to Brodhead
From: DandD Boyd <dndboyd2(at)gmail.com>
I have a like new, two legged, engine stand I used to store my C65 while
building. Hopefully won't need it again. Willing to bring it to Brodhead
this weekend
I have particulars if interested
Dave Boyd
Champaign, IL
217 202 3417 (c)
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Date: Jul 23, 2013
From: Robert Rice <ricekrgr(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Brodhead
Hi Jack, thanks for the invite. Will you be serving on Saturday?=0A=0A=0A
=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Jack <jack(at)textors.com>=0AT
o: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com =0ASent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 6:22 AM=0AS
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oup. Please stop by for a brat Friday at 11:30, SE side of the field.=0A-
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ly 22, 2013 12:50=0APM=0ATo: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com=0ASubject: Pieten
pol-List: Brodhead=0A-=0A=0A=0A=0A-=0A-=0A-Hi,=0A-=0AIs the fly-i
n open to the public? I am very interseted in the=0APietenpol designs and w
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Subject: Re: Brodhead
From: Jack <jack(at)textors.com>
Date: Jul 23, 2013
Sorry no, just Friday at 11:30. We head to OSHKOSH early Saturday
Sent from my iPad
Jack Textor
On Jul 23, 2013, at 12:28 PM, Robert Rice wrote:
> Hi Jack, thanks for the invite. Will you be serving on Saturday?
>
>
> From: Jack <jack(at)textors.com>
> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 6:22 AM
> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead
>
> Yes Bob , a great group. Please stop by for a brat Friday at 11:30, SE sid
e of the field.
>
> Jack Textor
> Des Moines, IA
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto: owner-pietenpol-l
ist-server(at)matronics.com ] On Behalf Of Robert Rice
> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 12:50 PM
> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Is the fly-in open to the public? I am very interseted in the Pietenpol de
signs and would like to see them live and up close.
>
> Thanks,
> Bob
>
>
>
>
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
> http://forums.matronics.com
> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
> http://www.matronics.c==================
>
>
>
>
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Subject: Re: Update/Progress
From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee(at)us.army.mil>
Date: Jul 23, 2013
Hi Dan - Here are the changes I've made/plan to make:
- Gypsy Moth/Gary/Douwe fuel tank for more fuel
- Back seat tilted 2 farther aft for comfort
- Turtle deck raised to match instrument cowling to improve shoulder belt geometry
- Front seat seat belt attach points per Mike Cuy
- Lower landing gear a couple of inches and move forward a few inches in accordance
with Mueller W&B articles handling was never bad but changes should make
it better. Dimensions not solidified
- Raise front seat bottom front edge for (slightly) improved comfort per Shelleys
request
- Clearance and reinforce front seat front panel, on the sides, for more foot room
and more durability when my foot hits the wood.
--------
Kevin "Axel" Purtee
Rebuilding NX899KP
Austin/San Marcos, TX
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=405181#405181
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Subject: Re: Engine stand for sale will deliver to Brodhead
From: "Bill Church" <billspiet(at)sympatico.ca>
Date: Jul 23, 2013
Just trying to visualize a two-legged stand that won't fall over.
BC
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=405183#405183
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From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB" <steven.d.dortch(at)us.army.mil>
Date: Jul 23, 2013
Subject: Re: Update/Progress
UNCLASSIFIED
Axle, Could the seat adjustments be made with the cushons? IE have the back cushon
wedge shaped, thinner on top and thicker on bottom. And the front bottom cushon
wedged shaped with more cushon to to the front.
I will be doing cushions within 6 weeks.
Steve D
On 07/23/13, kevinpurtee wrote:
>
> Hi Dan - Here are the changes I've made/plan to make:
>
> - Gypsy Moth/Gary/Douwe fuel tank for more fuel
> - Back seat tilted 2 farther aft for comfort
> - Turtle deck raised to match instrument cowling to improve shoulder belt geometry
> - Front seat seat belt attach points per Mike Cuy
> - Lower landing gear a couple of inches and move forward a few inches in accordance
with Mueller W&B articles handling was never bad but changes should make
it better. Dimensions not solidified
> - Raise front seat bottom front edge for (slightly) improved comfort per Shelleys
request
> - Clearance and reinforce front seat front panel, on the sides, for more foot
room and more durability when my foot hits the wood.
>
> --------
> Kevin "Axel" Purtee
> Rebuilding NX899KP
> Austin/San Marcos, TX
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=405181#405181
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
UNCLASSIFIED
________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 23, 2013
From: Robert Rice <ricekrgr(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Brodhead
Will it be worthwhile attending Saturday or do a lot people/planes leave fo
r Oshkosh?=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Jack <ja
ck(at)textors.com>=0ATo: "pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com" =0ASent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 12:48 PM=0ASubject: Re: Pietenpol-
List: Brodhead=0A =0A=0A=0ASorry no, just Friday at 11:30. We head to OSHKO
SH early Saturday-=0A=0ASent from my iPad=0AJack Textor=0A=0AOn Jul 23, 2
013, at 12:28 PM, Robert Rice wrote:=0A=0A=0AHi Jack,
thanks for the invite. Will you be serving on Saturday?=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>
=0A>=0A>________________________________=0A> From: Jack <jack(at)textors.com>
=0A>To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com =0A>Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 6:22
AM=0A>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead=0A> =0A>=0A>=0A> =0A>Yes Bob ,
=0Aa great group. Please stop by for a brat Friday at 11:30, SE side of the
field.=0A>-=0A>Jack Textor=0A>Des Moines, IA=0A>-=0A>=0A>_____________
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s.com=0A>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead=0A>-=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>-=0A>-
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w.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List=0A>http://forums.matronics.com=0A>
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Subject: Re: Brodhead
From: "tools" <n0kkj(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Jul 23, 2013
Saturday is very busy with lots and lots going on. I'd say not a ton of folks
leave sat, in fact, many don't even like oshkosh, and most of the planes don't
fly up there (it's not a super friendly nordo event...).
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=405187#405187
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Subject: Re: Update/Progress
From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee(at)us.army.mil>
Date: Jul 23, 2013
Hi Steve - You'd think cushions would improve the situation. She's tried several
different iterations but it hasn't really made a difference. She can last
about 30 minutes in the front seat. I'm afraid the nature of the front seat is
such that she'll never be truly comfortable. Other people handle it ok.
I raised the front seat the 1/2" to humor her. It costs nothing.
--------
Kevin "Axel" Purtee
Rebuilding NX899KP
Austin/San Marcos, TX
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=405189#405189
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Subject: Re: Life is good!
From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee(at)us.army.mil>
Date: Jul 23, 2013
I didn't think missing Brodhead would bother me particularly, but it does, deeply.
I'll miss seeing Markle's behind.
--------
Kevin "Axel" Purtee
Rebuilding NX899KP
Austin/San Marcos, TX
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=405190#405190
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Subject: Re: Life is good!
From: "echobravo4" <eab4(at)comcast.net>
Date: Jul 23, 2013
Yea, the picture really is no substitute!
--------
Earl Brown
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I
intended to be.
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=405191#405191
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Date: Jul 23, 2013
From: Robert Rice <ricekrgr(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Brodhead
Thanks Tools, =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: tool
s =0ATo: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com =0ASent: Tuesday, Ju
ly 23, 2013 2:14 PM=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead=0A =0A=0A--> Pi
etenpol-List message posted by: "tools" =0A=0ASaturday is
very busy with lots and lots going on.- I'd say not a ton of folks leave
sat, in fact, many don't even like oshkosh, and most of the planes don't fl
y up there (it's not a super friendly nordo event...).=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead t
his topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=4
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From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB" <steven.d.dortch(at)us.army.mil>
Date: Jul 23, 2013
Subject: Re: Update/Progress
UNCLASSIFIED
As I get older and my ass gets wider, I have found for long trips that a memory
foam pillow really makes a difference. my legs hurt a lot less when I arrive.
On 07/23/13, kevinpurtee wrote:
>
> Hi Steve - You'd think cushions would improve the situation. She's tried several
different iterations but it hasn't really made a difference. She can last
about 30 minutes in the front seat. I'm afraid the nature of the front seat is
such that she'll never be truly comfortable. Other people handle it ok.
>
> I raised the front seat the 1/2" to humor her. It costs nothing.
>
> --------
> Kevin "Axel" Purtee
> Rebuilding NX899KP
> Austin/San Marcos, TX
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=405189#405189
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
UNCLASSIFIED
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Subject: Re: Brodhead
From: Jack <jack(at)textors.com>
Date: Jul 23, 2013
Robert a lot depends on weather, but Saturday is usually the best day, with t
he forums and flying going on.
Sent from my iPad
Jack Textor
On Jul 23, 2013, at 1:51 PM, Robert Rice wrote:
> Will it be worthwhile attending Saturday or do a lot people/planes leave f
or Oshkosh?
>
>
> From: Jack <jack(at)textors.com>
> To: "pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com"
> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 12:48 PM
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead
>
> Sorry no, just Friday at 11:30. We head to OSHKOSH early Saturday
>
> Sent from my iPad
> Jack Textor
>
> On Jul 23, 2013, at 12:28 PM, Robert Rice wrote:
>
>> Hi Jack, thanks for the invite. Will you be serving on Saturday?
>>
>>
>> From: Jack <jack(at)textors.com>
>> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 6:22 AM
>> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead
>>
>> Yes Bob , a great group. Please stop by for a brat Friday at 11:30, SE si
de of the field.
>>
>> Jack Textor
>> Des Moines, IA
>>
>> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto: owner-pietenpol-
list-server(at)matronics.com ] On Behalf Of Robert Rice
>> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 12:50 PM
>> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Is the fly-in open to the public? I am very interseted in the Pietenpol d
esigns and would like to see them live and up close.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bob
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
>> http://forums.matronics.com
>> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>
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>>
>>
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Subject: Re: Update/Progress
From: Jack <jack(at)textors.com>
Date: Jul 23, 2013
Kevin she has less padding this year :)
Sent from my iPad
Jack Textor
On Jul 23, 2013, at 2:19 PM, "kevinpurtee" wrote:
>
> Hi Steve - You'd think cushions would improve the situation. She's tried several
different iterations but it hasn't really made a difference. She can last
about 30 minutes in the front seat. I'm afraid the nature of the front seat
is such that she'll never be truly comfortable. Other people handle it ok.
>
> I raised the front seat the 1/2" to humor her. It costs nothing.
>
> --------
> Kevin "Axel" Purtee
> Rebuilding NX899KP
> Austin/San Marcos, TX
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=405189#405189
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: Re: Life is good!
From: Jack <jack(at)textors.com>
Date: Jul 23, 2013
Kevin I actually may have a web feed at the lunch will let you know...
Sent from my iPad
Jack Textor
On Jul 23, 2013, at 2:22 PM, "kevinpurtee" wrote:
>
> I didn't think missing Brodhead would bother me particularly, but it does, deeply.
>
> I'll miss seeing Markle's behind.
>
> --------
> Kevin "Axel" Purtee
> Rebuilding NX899KP
> Austin/San Marcos, TX
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Date: Jul 23, 2013
Subject: Re: Engine stand for sale will deliver to Brodhead
From: DandD Boyd <dndboyd2(at)gmail.com>
Two horizontal legs on 4 wheels and a vertical arm with the engine mounting
plates. I have a picture if you are interested. Load cap. 1250. Made by
Cummins.
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Bill Church wrote:
> billspiet(at)sympatico.ca>
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> Just trying to visualize a two-legged stand that won't fall over.
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> BC
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From: "Barry Davis" <bed(at)mindspring.com>
Subject: Brodhead
Date: Jul 23, 2013
Jack
Are you camping in the usual spot to the left of registration?
Barry Davis
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead
Sorry no, just Friday at 11:30. We head to OSHKOSH early Saturday
Sent from my iPad
Jack Textor
On Jul 23, 2013, at 12:28 PM, Robert Rice wrote:
Hi Jack, thanks for the invite. Will you be serving on Saturday?
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From: Jack <jack(at)textors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 6:22 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead
Yes Bob , a great group. Please stop by for a brat Friday at 11:30, SE
side of the field.
Jack Textor
Des Moines, IA
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:
owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com ] On Behalf Of Robert Rice
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 12:50 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead
Hi,
Is the fly-in open to the public? I am very interseted in the Pietenpol
designs and would like to see them live and up close.
Thanks,
Bob
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
http://forums.matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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Subject: Re: Brodhead
From: Jack <jack(at)textors.com>
Date: Jul 23, 2013
Barry we. Will be just inside the second entrance off of airport road
Sent from my iPad
Jack Textor
On Jul 23, 2013, at 3:19 PM, "Barry Davis" wrote:
> Jack
> Are you camping in the usual spot to the left of registration?
> Barry Davis
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li
st-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 1:49 PM
> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead
>
> Sorry no, just Friday at 11:30. We head to OSHKOSH early Saturday
>
> Sent from my iPad
> Jack Textor
>
> On Jul 23, 2013, at 12:28 PM, Robert Rice wrote:
>
> Hi Jack, thanks for the invite. Will you be serving on Saturday?
>
>
> From: Jack <jack(at)textors.com>
> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 6:22 AM
> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead
>
> Yes Bob , a great group. Please stop by for a brat Friday at 11:30, SE sid
e of the field.
>
> Jack Textor
> Des Moines, IA
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto: owner-pietenpol-l
ist-server(at)matronics.com ] On Behalf Of Robert Rice
> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 12:50 PM
> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead
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>
> Hi,
>
> Is the fly-in open to the public? I am very interseted in the Pietenpol de
signs and would like to see them live and up close.
>
> Thanks,
> Bob
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> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
> http://forums.matronics.com
> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
> http://forums.matronics.com
> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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Subject: Re: Brodhead
From: airlion2(at)gmail.com
Date: Jul 23, 2013
Barryyou can't miss the hotel he is driving. He he, gardiner. Looks like tom
orrow will be the first day I will be able to get out of Georgia
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 23, 2013, at 5:21 PM, Jack wrote:
> Barry we. Will be just inside the second entrance off of airport road
>
> Sent from my iPad
> Jack Textor
>
> On Jul 23, 2013, at 3:19 PM, "Barry Davis" wrote:
>
>> Jack
>> Are you camping in the usual spot to the left of registration?
>> Barry Davis
>>
>> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-l
ist-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 1:49 PM
>> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead
>>
>> Sorry no, just Friday at 11:30. We head to OSHKOSH early Saturday
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>> Jack Textor
>>
>> On Jul 23, 2013, at 12:28 PM, Robert Rice wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jack, thanks for the invite. Will you be serving on Saturday?
>>
>>
>> From: Jack <jack(at)textors.com>
>> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 6:22 AM
>> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead
>>
>> Yes Bob , a great group. Please stop by for a brat Friday at 11:30, SE si
de of the field.
>>
>> Jack Textor
>> Des Moines, IA
>>
>> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto: owner-pietenpol-
list-server(at)matronics.com ] On Behalf Of Robert Rice
>> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 12:50 PM
>> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Is the fly-in open to the public? I am very interseted in the Pietenpol d
esigns and would like to see them live and up close.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bob
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
>> http://forums.matronics.com
>> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>
>> http://www.matronics.c=================
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> =========================
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>> >http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
>> =========================
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>> cs.com
>> =========================
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>> matronics.com/contribution
>> =========================
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>>
>>
>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
>> http://forums.matronics.com
>> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>
>>
>>
>> =========================
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>> >http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
>> =========================
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>> cs.com
>> =========================
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>> matronics.com/contribution
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Subject: Re: Engine stand for sale will deliver to Brodhead
From: John Fastnaught <fastnaught(at)windstream.net>
Date: Jul 23, 2013
Dave,
Can it be used for ford engine?
Jack
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 23, 2013, at 12:54 PM, DandD Boyd wrote:
> I have a like new, two legged, engine stand I used to store my C65 while b
uilding. Hopefully won't need it again. Willing to bring it to Brodhead th
is weekend
> I have particulars if interested
> Dave Boyd
> Champaign, IL
> 217 202 3417 (c)
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From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: packing!
Date: Jul 23, 2013
Here's my final "aircamping" load.
It squirreled away pretty well. Build lots of cubbies, even if they're
small, they'll get log books and fuel testers out of the way.
The rucksack is seat-belted into the front seat. The tie-down bag is tied
to the front rudder pedals which are disconnected for this trip. Tools,
charts, oil, cleaning stuff and my jacket up front in the storage area ahead
of the passenger's panel. Lightweight but bulky items such as my sleeping
bag, pillows and cockpit covers go in the storage box I built behind the
cockpit. Roomy, but it's obviously only for light stuff.
FUN STUFF!!!
Except for a decent headwind all the way up (and back it looks like!!) WX
looks ok for an early departure. I'm praying for no fog this morning so I
can get out of here and beat some of the wind.
Douwe
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Date: Jul 23, 2013
Subject: Re: Engine stand for sale will deliver to Brodhead
From: DandD Boyd <dndboyd2(at)gmail.com>
The engine mount face plate is vertical with four mounting points for bolts
to the engine mount points as per a C65 or similar engine. As I recall a
Ford would need two horizontal rails. Some modification may be necessary.
Nevertheless, I have a picture and can send it to you via email or I-Phone
message if it would be helpful.
It is made by Cummins and has a 1250lb capacity.
Dave
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 6:59 PM, John Fastnaught
wrote:
> Dave,
> Can it be used for ford engine?
> Jack
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jul 23, 2013, at 12:54 PM, DandD Boyd wrote:
>
> I have a like new, two legged, engine stand I used to store my C65 while
> building. Hopefully won't need it again. Willing to bring it to Brodhead
> this weekend
> I have particulars if interested
> Dave Boyd
> Champaign, IL
> 217 202 3417 (c)
>
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Subject: Re: packing!
From: Jack <jack(at)textors.com>
Date: Jul 23, 2013
Gods speed to you Douwe!
Sent from my iPad
Jack Textor
On Jul 23, 2013, at 7:27 PM, "Douwe Blumberg" wrote:
> Here's my final "aircamping" load.
>
> It squirreled away pretty well. Build lots of cubbies, even if they're
> small, they'll get log books and fuel testers out of the way.
>
> The rucksack is seat-belted into the front seat. The tie-down bag is tied
> to the front rudder pedals which are disconnected for this trip. Tools,
> charts, oil, cleaning stuff and my jacket up front in the storage area ahead
> of the passenger's panel. Lightweight but bulky items such as my sleeping
> bag, pillows and cockpit covers go in the storage box I built behind the
> cockpit. Roomy, but it's obviously only for light stuff.
>
> FUN STUFF!!!
>
> Except for a decent headwind all the way up (and back it looks like!!) WX
> looks ok for an early departure. I'm praying for no fog this morning so I
> can get out of here and beat some of the wind.
>
> Douwe
>
>
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Subject: Re: packing!
From: "echobravo4" <eab4(at)comcast.net>
Date: Jul 23, 2013
Have a safe flight Douwe!
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Earl Brown
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I
intended to be.
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=405213#405213
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Subject: Re: packing!
From: "ldmill" <lorin.miller(at)emerson.com>
Date: Jul 24, 2013
Hey Douwe - where's the jack going to fit in at...? Looking forward to seeing
that beauty there, am also flying up 30PP.
Cheers!
Lorin Miller
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Lorin Miller
Waiex N81YX
GN-1 N30PP
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=405223#405223
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From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB" <steven.d.dortch(at)us.army.mil>
Date: Jul 24, 2013
Subject: Re: packing!
UNCLASSIFIED
Douwe, You forgot to throw the joker out of your deck of cards. Looks well thought
out.
Reminds me of my Light Infantry days. If you want it you have to carry it. We would
carefully consider each item. Playing cards were cut in half. Toilet paper
was taken off of the roll (Cardboard adds up). Full sized sleeping mats were
cut down so that they just fit under your torso, three foot long and 15 inches
wide. Unless it was dangerous cold, no sleeping bag, just a poncho and light
quilted liner. You could cuddle with a buddy for warmth. When MRE's (combat rations)
were issued you went through it and only took the items you eat. No need
in carrying something I will throw away. No tent, that is what a poncho is
for.
Blue Skies,
Steve D
"Fight light and freeze at night!
On 07/23/13, Douwe Blumberg wrote:
> Here's my final "aircamping" load.
>
> It squirreled away pretty well. Build lots of cubbies, even if they're
> small, they'll get log books and fuel testers out of the way.
>
> The rucksack is seat-belted into the front seat. The tie-down bag is tied
> to the front rudder pedals which are disconnected for this trip. Tools,
> charts, oil, cleaning stuff and my jacket up front in the storage area ahead
> of the passenger's panel. Lightweight but bulky items such as my sleeping
> bag, pillows and cockpit covers go in the storage box I built behind the
> cockpit. Roomy, but it's obviously only for light stuff.
>
> FUN STUFF!!!
>
> Except for a decent headwind all the way up (and back it looks like!!) WX
> looks ok for an early departure. I'm praying for no fog this morning so I
> can get out of here and beat some of the wind.
>
> Douwe
UNCLASSIFIED
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Subject: Re: Update/Progress
From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee(at)us.army.mil>
Date: Jul 24, 2013
And yet still remains padded in all the right spots, Jack...
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
Rebuilding NX899KP
Austin/San Marcos, TX
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=405233#405233
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Subject: TFR's Southwest of C37
From: "PatrickW" <pwhoyt(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Jul 24, 2013
Just a heads-up in case anyone's flying to Brodhead from the south-west.
Noticed a couple TFR's about 55 miles to the south-west of Brodhead today.
One centered at Rock Island, another at Galesburg.
- Pat
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=405238#405238
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Subject: Getting there!
From: Douwe <douweblumberg(at)earthlink.net>
Date: Jul 24, 2013
Chicago skyline!!! All going well. Next stop poplar grove or bust!!
Douwe
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