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      N742SE, 2014, Zenith 701, Trinity, TX Scott Ehni, N742DE, 2011, Zenith
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From: randybush2(at)gmail.com
Subject: Re: Oshkosh 2015 Plans Outstanding Workmanship
Date: Jul 26, 2015
Congratulations Dan! Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 26, 2015, at 8:42 AM, Jack Philips wrote : > > WAY TO GO, DAN HELSPER! > > For showing what a beautiful Model A Ford powered Pietenpol can look like! I saw people crowding around your airplane every time I walked by it. I h ereby award it the Gold Lindy =9CPeople=99s Choice=9D Awar d. > > Jack Phillips > NX899JP > Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li st-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Boatright > Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2015 8:45 AM > To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Oshkosh 2015 Plans Outstanding Workmanship > > --> > > Oshkosh 2015 Plans Outstanding Workmanship > > Jeffrey Cain, N8032Y, 1981, Hill Raymond J Hatz CB-1, Denver, CO Scott Ehn i, N742SE, 2014, Zenith 701, Trinity, TX Scott Ehni, N742DE, 2011, Zenith Ch 701SP, Trinity, TX Daniel Helsper, N929DH, 2010, Pietenpol Aircamper, Puryea r, TN > > > Congratulations, Dan!!! > > :D :D :D > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445202#445202 > > > > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > > http://forums.matronics.com > > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > > > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Oshkosh 2015 Plans Outstanding Workmanship
From: "Bill Church" <billspiet(at)sympatico.ca>
Date: Jul 26, 2015
No surprise there. Very well deserved. Congratulations, Dan! I also see that Frank Pavliga's NX899FP was awarded a Bronze Lindy for Vintage Replica Aircraft. Another outstanding Pietenpol with a well deserved award. Bill C. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445209#445209 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Ray Krause <raykrause(at)frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: Oshkosh 2015 Plans Outstanding Workmanship
Date: Jul 26, 2015
Dan, Just had the privilege of meeting you at Brodhead this year. Absolutely beau tiful plane. You sure deserve the award. I'm surprised you were able to cle an all my drool off your plane before displaying your art at Osh! Ray Krause Still working on SkyScout Sent from my iPad > On Jul 26, 2015, at 7:17 AM, Gary Boothe wrote: > > Congratulations, Dan!! > > Gary Boothe > NX308MB > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li st-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Philips > Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2015 6:42 AM > To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Oshkosh 2015 Plans Outstanding Workmanship > > WAY TO GO, DAN HELSPER! > > For showing what a beautiful Model A Ford powered Pietenpol can look like! I saw people crowding around your airplane every time I walked by it. I h ereby award it the Gold Lindy =9CPeople=99s Choice=9D Awar d. > > Jack Phillips > NX899JP > Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li st-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Boatright > Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2015 8:45 AM > To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Oshkosh 2015 Plans Outstanding Workmanship > > --> > > Oshkosh 2015 Plans Outstanding Workmanship > > Jeffrey Cain, N8032Y, 1981, Hill Raymond J Hatz CB-1, Denver, CO Scott Ehn i, N742SE, 2014, Zenith 701, Trinity, TX Scott Ehni, N742DE, 2011, Zenith Ch 701SP, Trinity, TX Daniel Helsper, N929DH, 2010, Pietenpol Aircamper, Puryea r, TN > > > Congratulations, Dan!!! > > :D :D :D > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445202#445202 > > > > > > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > > > > http://forums.matronics.com > > > > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > > > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > http://forums.matronics.com > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 26, 2015
Subject: rib material-- free
From: Timothy Willis <timwillis01(at)gmail.com>
=8BBelow is Oscar's original post about the free rib material Corky i s offering for pickup in Shreveport, LA. If no user can pick them up there, alternatively, if someone can get them to me in Georgetown, TX, I will store them and get them to the next Corvair College in San MArcos, TX. Tim in central TX =========== From: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags(at)hotmail.com> Subject: Pietenpol-List: rib material - free Pieters, Most of you know Corky Corbett, the gentleman who built the Air Camper that I now own and fly. He will be turning 92 next week, and in the recent past he has taken a fall or two and now gets around with a walker or in a wheelchair. A while back Corky's wife Isabelle passed away and after that he was looking for things to keep him busy, so he was going to start building and selling Piet ribs. That enterprise never came to fruition so now he's looking for someone who is interested in picking up the rib building materials. Free to a good home... to someone who might appreciate having a no-cost start to building their ribs and who might also appreciate meeting and greeting one of the people on this list who actually "got 'er done". Corky completed a Pietenpol Air Camper and flew it... something not a lot of people can say these days. A true Southern gentleman too. It's obvious that in his condition Corky is not able to handle the materials himself, nor is he interested in packing, shipping, or anything else. The materials are in Shreveport, Louisiana, and must be picked up by whoever is interested. He describes what he's got as several hundred dollars worth of materials, enough for perhaps 3 sets of ribs. Capstrips and ripped select fir that he says is as light as spruce and much stronger. Interested parties may call Corky at (318)455-7435. I have no other information than the above. Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC, "Scout" Cont A75 power ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 26, 2015
From: dog67(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Oshkosh 2015 Plans Outstanding Workmanship
Great job Dan! Sent from AOL Mobile Mail -----Original Message----- From: Gary Boothe <gboothe5(at)comcast.net> Sent: Sun, Jul 26, 2015 09:18 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Oshkosh 2015 Plans Outstanding Workmanship

Congratulati ons, Dan!!

Gary Boothe

NX308MB

From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pie tenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Philips Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2015 6:42 AM To: pietenpol-list@m atronics.com Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Oshkosh 2015 Plans Outstanding Workmans hip

WAY TO GO, DAN HELSPER!

For showing what a beautiful Model A Fo rd powered Pietenpol can look like! I saw people crowding around your airp lane every time I walked by it. I hereby award it the Gold Lindy =9C People=99s Choice=9D Award.

Jack Phillips

NX899JP

Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia

-----Original Message----- From: <a target="_blank" href="mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matro nics.com">owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-p ietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Boatright Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2015 8:45 AM npol-list(at)matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Oshkosh 2015 Plans Outstanding Workmanship

Jeff Boatright"

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Oshkosh 2015 Plans Outstanding Workmans hip

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Subject: Re: Oshkosh 2015 Plans Outstanding Workmanship
From: Jack <jack(at)textors.com>
Date: Jul 26, 2015
Outstanding and well deserved my friend! Sent from my iPad Jack Textor > On Jul 26, 2015, at 7:45 AM, "Jeff Boatright" wrote: > > > Oshkosh 2015 Plans Outstanding Workmanship > > Jeffrey Cain, N8032Y, 1981, Hill Raymond J Hatz CB-1, Denver, CO > Scott Ehni, N742SE, 2014, Zenith 701, Trinity, TX > Scott Ehni, N742DE, 2011, Zenith Ch701SP, Trinity, TX > Daniel Helsper, N929DH, 2010, Pietenpol Aircamper, Puryear, TN > > > Congratulations, Dan!!! > > :D :D :D > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445202#445202 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: just another Air Camper afternoon
From: Jack <jack(at)textors.com>
Date: Jul 26, 2015
That's why I keep building Oscar, thanks! Sent from my iPad Jack Textor > On Jul 25, 2015, at 9:49 PM, "taildrags" wrote: > > > I didn't get to the West Coast Piet event, or to Sun 'n' Fun, or to Brodhead, or to AirVenture this year. I had my own little Air Camper afternoon today though. My last logbook entry was back in April and Scout had sat patiently in the hangar all this time, waiting for me. Today was the day. > > Beautiful summer afternoon, nothing out of the ordinary for a July in the Rogue Valley, and like most summer afternoons here, the wind was coming up and getting a bit gusty. Not far off the runway heading, but veering a little and gusting maybe from 7 or 8 to 10-15 at times. Enough to make taxiing and ground work interesting. > > As usual, I flooded the engine in my haste to get it fired up, so I cooled my heels a bit and then ran through the starting sequence a little more diligently and got ignition. On runup, the lower plugs were stuttering a little, nothing out of the ordinary when you don't run these engines regularly, but after warming up and burning off what I could from the plugs, on takeoff everything was strong and we were airborne. > > I put about 45 minutes in the logbook and turned in a very good performance on landing (for me, anyway)- a wheel landing into a wind that had the windsock sticking straight out, and I sure didn't need any brakes to slow 'er down! I needed power to taxi back up to the hangar (into the wind) and when I got there I shut down the airplane perfectly satisfied with Pietenpols, flying, the summer, and life in general. I just need to do this more often. > > -------- > Oscar Zuniga > Medford, OR > Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" > A75 power > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445200#445200 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Oshkosh 2015 Plans Outstanding Workmanship
From: "echobravo4" <eab4(at)comcast.net>
Date: Jul 26, 2015
Congratulations Dan! -------- Earl Brown I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I intended to be. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445217#445217 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 26, 2015
Subject: Re: rib material-- free
From: Tony Crawford <tonyp51qa(at)gmail.com>
I am interested!!!! I live in Northern AL and can drive there and pick up the material. Tony 480-748-3470 On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Timothy Willis wrote: > =8BBelow is Oscar's original post about the free rib material Corky is > offering for pickup in Shreveport, LA. > > If no user can pick them up there, alternatively, if someone can get them > to me in Georgetown, TX, I will store them and get them to the next Corva ir > College in San MArcos, TX. > > Tim in central TX > =========== > > From: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags(at)hotmail.com> > Subject: Pietenpol-List: rib material - free > > Pieters, > > Most of you know Corky Corbett, the gentleman who built the Air Camper > that I now own and fly. He will be turning 92 next week, and in the rece nt > past he has taken a fall or two and now gets around with a walker or in a > wheelchair. > > A while back Corky's wife Isabelle passed away and after that he was > looking for things to keep him busy, so he was going to start building an d > selling Piet ribs. That enterprise never came to fruition so now he's > looking for someone who is interested in picking up the rib building > materials. Free to a good home... to someone who might appreciate having a > no-cost start to building their ribs and who might also appreciate meetin g > and greeting one of the people on this list who actually "got 'er done". > > Corky completed a Pietenpol Air Camper and flew it... something not a lot > of people can say these days. A true Southern gentleman too. > > It's obvious that in his condition Corky is not able to handle the > materials himself, nor is he interested in packing, shipping, or anything > else. The materials are in Shreveport, Louisiana, and must be picked up by > whoever is interested. He describes what he's got as several hundred > dollars worth of materials, enough for perhaps 3 sets of ribs. Capstrips > and ripped select fir that he says is as light as spruce and much stronge r. > > Interested parties may call Corky at (318)455-7435. I have no other > information than the above. > > Oscar Zuniga > Medford, OR > Air Camper NX41CC, "Scout" > Cont A75 power > > > * > =========== .matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List> =========== =========== om/contribution> =========== > > * > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Oshkosh 2015 Plans Outstanding Workmanship
From: "tonyp51qa" <tonyp51qa(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jul 26, 2015
Dan, Good on ya Mate!!! Congratulations!! Tony Madison Alabama -------- Tony Crawford Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445219#445219 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Oshkosh 2015 Plans Outstanding Workmanship
From: "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld(at)lacity.org>
Date: Jul 27, 2015
Congratulations Dan. Well deserved. -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445232#445232 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Oshkosh 2015 Plans Outstanding Workmanship
From: "PatrickW" <pwhoyt(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Jul 27, 2015
Woo Hoo! Nice work, Dan! - Patrick Hoyt Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445233#445233 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 27, 2015
From: Dan Yocum <yocum137(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Oshkosh 2015 Plans Outstanding Workmanship
Hear, hear! On 07/26/2015 08:42 AM, Jack Philips wrote: > WAY TO GO, DAN HELSPER! > > > > For showing what a beautiful Model A Ford powered Pietenpol can look > like! I saw people crowding around your airplane every time I walked by > it. I hereby award it the Gold Lindy Peoples Choice Award. > > > > Jack Phillips > > NX899JP > > Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff > Boatright > Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2015 8:45 AM > To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Oshkosh 2015 Plans Outstanding Workmanship > > > > > --> > > > > > Oshkosh 2015 Plans Outstanding Workmanship > > > > Jeffrey Cain, N8032Y, 1981, Hill Raymond J Hatz CB-1, Denver, CO Scott > Ehni, N742SE, 2014, Zenith 701, Trinity, TX Scott Ehni, N742DE, 2011, > Zenith Ch701SP, Trinity, TX Daniel Helsper, N929DH, 2010, Pietenpol > Aircamper, Puryear, TN > > > > > > Congratulations, Dan!!! > > > > :D :D :D > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445202#445202 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > > http://forums.matronics.com > > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > > > > > > > * > > > * > -- Dan Yocum yocum137(at)gmail.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-LME0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" <michael.d.cuy(at)nasa.gov>
Subject: I would like to second Jack's nomination for Dan's Pietenpol
at EAA Oshkosh
Date: Jul 27, 2015
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Subject: Re: Oshkosh 2015 Plans Outstanding Workmanship
From: Claude Corbett <isablcorky(at)aol.com>
Date: Jul 27, 2015
Peters, I wish to say that a southern gentleman from Alabama has indicated he wants my rib building supplies and will hit I 20 sat morning for a short 500'miles to SHV to pick it up. Thanks to all for your Piet interest. Keep em flying and don't let the air speed drop when you flare. And keep that stick hard in your belly for ground control Corky in Louisiana 101 yesterday Sent from my iPad > On 27 Jul 2015, at 11:33, Dan Yocum wrote: > > > Hear, hear! > >> On 07/26/2015 08:42 AM, Jack Philips wrote: >> WAY TO GO, DAN HELSPER! >> >> >> >> For showing what a beautiful Model A Ford powered Pietenpol can look >> like! I saw people crowding around your airplane every time I walked by >> it. I hereby award it the Gold Lindy Peoples Choice Award. >> >> >> >> Jack Phillips >> >> NX899JP >> >> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff >> Boatright >> Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2015 8:45 AM >> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com >> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Oshkosh 2015 Plans Outstanding Workmanship >> >> >> >> >> --> > >> >> >> >> Oshkosh 2015 Plans Outstanding Workmanship >> >> >> >> Jeffrey Cain, N8032Y, 1981, Hill Raymond J Hatz CB-1, Denver, CO Scott >> Ehni, N742SE, 2014, Zenith 701, Trinity, TX Scott Ehni, N742DE, 2011, >> Zenith Ch701SP, Trinity, TX Daniel Helsper, N929DH, 2010, Pietenpol >> Aircamper, Puryear, TN >> >> >> >> >> >> Congratulations, Dan!!! >> >> >> >> :D :D :D >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445202#445202 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List >> >> http://forums.matronics.com >> >> http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> * >> >> >> * >> > > -- > Dan Yocum > yocum137(at)gmail.com > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Barry Davis" <bed(at)mindspring.com>
Subject: Dan's Grass Angel
Date: Jul 27, 2015
I would love to see the Grass Angel where Dan's plane was sitting in AirVenture 2015. Barry NX973BP Example(not Dan's) ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: I would like to second Jack's nomination for Dan's
Pietenpol
From: "Bill Church" <billspiet(at)sympatico.ca>
Date: Jul 27, 2015
Motion carried. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445260#445260 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Oshkosh 2015 Plans Outstanding Workmanship
From: "aerocarjake" <flight.jake(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jul 27, 2015
Awesome news - well done Dan....!!!! -------- Jake Schultz - curator, Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445284#445284 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Richard O Carden <flywrite(at)verizon.net>
Subject: Piet/Corvair Project
Date: Jul 28, 2015
My Piet/Corvair project is still for sale. Here are the detail again. My best friend in this whole wide world died suddenly and my interest in finishing my Piet died with him. We were building in his hangar and both wanted Corvair engines, his for an Avid and mine for the Piet. I=92ve lost interest in going forward, so the project=92s for sale. I=92m asking $13,000, which sounds like a lot at first glance, but look what you=92re really getting. Mounted (4130 tray) 90 hp =9268 Corvair engine rebuilt w/magnafluxed crankshaft line bored w/+10 by NASCAR engine builder and balanced to 0.5 gram with WW gold hub and new Corvair starter ring gear installed. All internal engine parts are from Clark except the crankshaft=97hi-tech pistons, chrome rings, 3-angle valve resurfaced seats w/stainless steel exhaust valves w/tungsten seats, OT-10 (C8800) camshaft w/failsafe gear installed, new high performance case studs, new lifters, keepers, springs, shims, seals, caps, and rocker arm assembly. Remanufactured Clark harmonic balancer, rebuilt Subaru front starter w/new start ring gear, installed JD alternator w/belt, tach pickup mounted on alternator bracket, plumbed for oil pressure and temperature, exhaust fully fabricated with WW stubs, intake partially fabricated for rebuilt MA3SP carb calibrated for 100 LL, WW dual-ignition distributor w/Eichlin rotor and cap, new plugs and ignition wires, Bosch coils and joiner mounted, primary fiberglass cooling shrouds fabricated and fitted, air-oil separator, oil cooler, Wings with wingtip wiring finished, trammeled to 0.25-inch and ready to cover, tailfeathers ready to cover. Fuselage on tundra tire gear, tail wheel ready to install, half-gallon header tank on inside firewall, front seat stick and rudder pedals, control cables and bell crank installed for tail feathers, wing center section w/aluminum fuel tank w/float quantity sender, with trays mounted in center section rear cut-out for yellow-tagged KT76A transponder and new in the box ICA200 com radio that go with the sale. Aluminum wing struts with fuselage &wing attachments and jury struts fabricated; strobe lights and power supply, two boxes of parts, including switches, seat belts and harnesses, partial spools of AN hookup wire, turnbuckles, SS worm-drive clamps, starter button, woven seat back and a lot of other stuff. Photos on request. Dick Carden at 804-492-9349 or flywrite(at)verizon.net. ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Hydraulic Brake Calipers
From: "tkreiner" <tkreiner(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jul 28, 2015
Last week at OSH, I stopped at the Grove Brake booth, and took a look at their line up. Nice stuff, but maybe overkill for a Piet. In the past, I've seen several Piets with Go-Kart calipers, but before I purchase anything, I'd like to query anyone having specific experience with them, preferably on a flying plane. Are they: Easy to install? Are they durable, or do they have problems? Provide correct braking force? (This is related to brake holding torque) Reasonable Cost? Tell all of us your experience with your Disc Brakes, Calipers, etc., and PLEASE don't hold back a thing. Thanks! -------- Tom Kreiner Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445319#445319 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: New BPA Issue and need a few Beta Testers
From: "Pietflyer1977" <rob(at)stoinoff.com>
Date: Jul 29, 2015
Just curious....I never got a newsletter the week of June 21st nor did I get another before Brodhead? I am the only one? Do I need to see if my mailman likes Pietenpols? [Rolling Eyes] Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445332#445332 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Hydraulic Brake Calipers
From: Jack <jack(at)textors.com>
Date: Jul 29, 2015
Tom I would be interested in the responses too... Sent from my iPad Jack Textor > On Jul 28, 2015, at 5:17 PM, "tkreiner" wrote: > > > Last week at OSH, I stopped at the Grove Brake booth, and took a look at > their line up. Nice stuff, but maybe overkill for a Piet. > > In the past, I've seen several Piets with Go-Kart calipers, but before I > purchase anything, I'd like to query anyone having specific experience > with them, preferably on a flying plane. > > Are they: > > Easy to install? > > Are they durable, or do they have problems? > > Provide correct braking force? (This is related to brake holding torque) > > Reasonable Cost? > > Tell all of us your experience with your Disc Brakes, Calipers, etc., and > PLEASE don't hold back a thing. > > Thanks! > > -------- > Tom Kreiner > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445319#445319 > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Hydraulic Brake Calipers
From: "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld(at)lacity.org>
Date: Jul 29, 2015
Brakes?????? No experience with them on my plane. Sorry about that. Been just fine without them for 43 years. Just need to stay way ahead of the plane when performing ground maneuvers. Much like in a boat. -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445337#445337 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: New BPA Issue and need a few Beta Testers
From: John Hofmann <jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com>
Date: Jul 29, 2015
I have not gotten mine yet either and live only an hour away. I will check with the printer. Best, -john- John Hofmann Vice-President, IT and Production The Rees Group, Inc. 2424 American Lane Madison, WI 53704 Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150 Fax: 608.443.2474 Email: jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com > On Jul 29, 2015, at 6:31 AM, Pietflyer1977 wrote: > > > Just curious....I never got a newsletter the week of June 21st nor did I get another before Brodhead? I am the only one? Do I need to see if my mailman likes Pietenpols? [Rolling Eyes] > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445332#445332 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Pietn38b(at)aol.com
Date: Jul 29, 2015
Subject: Re: New BPA Issue and need a few Beta Testers
You are not alone. I have not received anything since the third issue of 2014 and my subscription is good until 10/2016. I keep being told its on its way but I havent seen anything yet. Jim Ballew Pietenpol N38B In a message dated 7/29/2015 6:48:33 A.M. Central Daylight Time, rob(at)stoinoff.com writes: --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Pietflyer1977" Just curious....I never got a newsletter the week of June 21st nor did I get another before Brodhead? I am the only one? Do I need to see if my mailman likes Pietenpols? [Rolling Eyes] Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445332#445332 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douwe(at)douwestudios.com>
Subject: email test
Date: Jul 29, 2015
Anybody getting this? Douwe ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douwe(at)douwestudios.com>
Subject: test...
Date: Jul 28, 2015
Hello all, I've been having email problems, if this comes through would someone please email me personally and let me know? Thanks, Douwe douwe(at)douwestudios.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douwe(at)douwestudios.com>
Subject: props for sale
Date: Jul 27, 2015
Hey all, I have two props hanging on my wall which I have decided to sell since I have no use for them. One is a brand new, custom carved prop for an 0200 piet made by Culver props/valley engineering. The other is a completely unused Ole Fahlin brass-edged prop. I researched it and it was made in the fifties and has been stored inside ever since. It is in immaculate condition with absolutely no delamination or any issues, so I am pretty confident it is useable though I'd certainly ck it out first. It is a thing of beauty. Can't remember the pitch and size, but I think it's for an A65 . I can ck if anyone's interested Douwe ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douwe(at)douwestudios.com>
Subject: test, let me know if this comes through
Date: Jul 27, 2015
Would someone let me know if this message shows up? I posted a few yesterday but don't see them on the list this morning, wonder if something's wrong. Thanks Douwe ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douwe(at)douwestudios.com>
Subject: cozy girls??
Date: Jul 26, 2015
Are you guys still out there? I'm looking for a Tracy Crook, RWS redrive and know that a lot of Cozy people bought them. He no longer makes 'em so I'm beating the bushes for one laying unused with a project. Douwe ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douwe(at)douwestudios.com>
Subject: facebook forum
Date: Jul 26, 2015
Hey all, It sadly is seeming as if this list is dying. I keep hearing that lots of people have moved over to the facebook piet page. Never having even seen a facebook page, would someone tell me how to find it and get signed up? Kind of miss keeping up with everybody. Douwe ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douwe(at)douwestudios.com>
Subject: Antique Aircraft Assocation fly-in
Date: Jul 26, 2015
Hey, Anybody interested in flying wingman with me to ck out the Blakesburg, Iowa flyin? Since we missed Brodhead, if the WX is nice thought we'd ck it out. Marci is going to drive the car with camping gear and I'll fly. Douwe ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: email test
From: Keith Hodge <pietenpol(at)hodgehome.org.uk>
Date: Jul 29, 2015
Yes, certainly in the UK! Keith On 29/07/2015 13:37, Douwe Blumberg wrote: > > Anybody getting this? > > Douwe > > http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: email test
From: Bkemike <bkemike(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jul 29, 2015
I'm getting your emails just fine, Douwe. I would like to know more about the O-200 prop. Mike Hardaway Sent from a "smart" phone. Emphasis on the quotes. > On Jul 29, 2015, at 05:37, Douwe Blumberg wrote: > > Anybody getting this? > > Douwe > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jul 29, 2015
Subject: Re: test, let me know if this comes through
Got it in Oklahoma/ Steve D On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 7:02 AM, Douwe Blumberg wrote: > Would someone let me know if this message shows up? > > > I posted a few yesterday but don=99t see them on the list this morn ing, > wonder if something=99s wrong. > > > Thanks > > > Douwe > > * > =========== .matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List> =========== =========== om/contribution> =========== > > * > > -- Blue Skies, Steve D ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jul 29, 2015
Subject: Re: test...
Douwe, I just got about 6 emails from you in the last few minutes. They all have dates running back to the 27th. There has been traffic on the Piet list. Blue Skies, Steve D On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 7:25 AM, Douwe Blumberg wrote: > Hello all, > > > I=99ve been having email problems, if this comes through would some one > please email me personally and let me know? > > > Thanks, > > > Douwe > > douwe(at)douwestudios.com > > * > =========== .matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List> =========== =========== om/contribution> =========== > > * > > -- Blue Skies, Steve D ________________________________________________________________________________
From: <brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com>
Subject: test, let me know if this comes through
Date: Jul 29, 2015
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Date: Jul 29, 2015
Subject: Re: email test
From: Marcus Zechini <marcus.zechini(at)gmail.com>
Yes On Jul 29, 2015 1:16 PM, "Douwe Blumberg" wrote: > Anybody getting this? > > > Douwe > > * > > > * > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Boatright, Jeffrey" <jeffboatright(at)emory.edu>
Subject: Re: test, let me know if this comes through
Date: Jul 29, 2015
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From: "Boatright, Jeffrey" <jeffboatright(at)emory.edu>
Subject: Re: facebook forum
Date: Jul 29, 2015
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From: "Barry Davis" <bed(at)mindspring.com>
Subject: test, let me know if this comes through
Date: Jul 29, 2015
Came through written in invisible ink! So I guess the answer is. it came through, but was blank. Barry From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Boatright, Jeffrey Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 1:31 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: test, let me know if this comes through ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: New BPA Issue and need a few Beta Testers
From: "jarheadpilot82" <jarheadpilot82(at)hotmail.com>
Date: Jul 29, 2015
I have not received mine either. -------- Semper Fi, Terry Hand Athens, GA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445364#445364 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-LME0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" <michael.d.cuy(at)nasa.gov>
Subject: CG Aircraft Products is still out there Douwe
Date: Jul 29, 2015
Douwe---check out http://www.cozygirrrl.com/aircraftparts.htm I just referred a friend of mine to Chrissi & Randi for his 0-200 Pietenpo l motor mount. CGParts(at)aol.com ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: New BPA Issue and need a few Beta Testers
From: "Jeff Boatright" <jeffboatright(at)emory.edu>
Date: Jul 29, 2015
This is not a complaint (I used to edit and publish a newsletter for a large EAA Chapter, so I know how difficult it is!), just more data: I haven't gotten my newsletter, either. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445366#445366 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Jack Philips" <jack(at)bedfordlandings.com>
Subject: email test
Date: Jul 29, 2015
Nope From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Douwe Blumberg Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 8:38 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: email test Anybody getting this? Douwe ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: List activity
From: "Bill Church" <billspiet(at)sympatico.ca>
Date: Jul 29, 2015
Wow, Lots of activity on the List today. :) BC Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445372#445372 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Pietn38b(at)aol.com
Date: Jul 29, 2015
Subject: Re: New BPA Issue and need a few Beta Testers
In a message dated 7/29/2015 1:39:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jeffboatright(at)emory.edu writes: --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jeff Boatright" This is not a complaint (I used to edit and publish a newsletter for a large EAA Chapter, so I know how difficult it is!), just more data: I haven't gotten my newsletter, either. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445366#445366 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Pietn38b(at)aol.com
Date: Jul 29, 2015
Subject: Re: New BPA Issue and need a few Beta Testers
I have not received anything since third issue 2014. Jim Ballew In a message dated 7/29/2015 1:39:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jeffboatright(at)emory.edu writes: --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jeff Boatright" This is not a complaint (I used to edit and publish a newsletter for a large EAA Chapter, so I know how difficult it is!), just more data: I haven't gotten my newsletter, either. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445366#445366 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Ray Krause <raykrause(at)frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: New BPA Issue and need a few Beta Testers
Date: Jul 29, 2015
I have not received one, either. Did my subscription run out. Did not see any at Brodhead. Ray Krause Sent from my iPad > On Jul 29, 2015, at 4:31 AM, Pietflyer1977 wrote: > > > Just curious....I never got a newsletter the week of June 21st nor did I get another before Brodhead? I am the only one? Do I need to see if my mailman likes Pietenpols? [Rolling Eyes] > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445332#445332 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 29, 2015
Subject: ADS B in a Pietenpol?
From: "Andre B. Charvet" <bencharvet(at)gmail.com>
I have a non -electric Pietenpol with an A-65. Unfortunately my airport is inside a Mode C area. While the rules exempted me from having a transponder, there doesn't seem to be such an exception to the upcoming ADS-B requirements. Cubs, Champs, etc will have the same problem. How are the rest of you planning to deal with this? Ben Charvet Hangared ar X21 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 29, 2015
From: "THOMAS.233327" <thomas.233327(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: test, let me know if this comes through
Dowe It came through just fine for me, and I'm just a lurker! Tom Hale Building a Sonex/AeroVee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douwe(at)douwestudios.com> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 5:02:58 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: test, let me know if this comes through Would someone let me know if this message shows up? I posted a few yesterday but don=99t see them on the list this mornin g, wonder if something=99s wrong. Thanks Douwe === ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 29, 2015
From: cessna7226g(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: email test
Yes Joe R -----Original Message----- From: Jack Philips <jack(at)bedfordlandings.com> Sent: Wed, Jul 29, 2015 4:26 pm Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: email test Nope From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Douwe Blumberg Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 8:38 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: email test Anybody getting this? Douwe http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 29, 2015
From: cessna7226g(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: props for sale
Where are you located? How much do you want for the props? Joe R -----Original Message----- From: Douwe Blumberg <douwe(at)douwestudios.com> Sent: Wed, Jul 29, 2015 1:13 pm Subject: Pietenpol-List: props for sale Hey all, I have two props hanging on my wall which I have decided to sell since I ha ve no use for them. One is a brand new, custom carved prop for an 0200 piet made by Culver prop s/valley engineering. The other is a completely unused Ole Fahlin brass-edged prop. I researched it and it was made in the fifties and has been stored inside ever since. It is in immaculate condition with absolutely no delamination or any issues , so I am pretty confident it is useable though I=99d certainly ck it out first. It is a thing of beauty. Can=99t remember the pitch and size, but I think it=99s for an A65 . I can ck if anyone=99s interested Douwe ==== ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 29, 2015
From: cessna7226g(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: New BPA Issue and need a few Beta Testers
Thank you for checking Joe R -----Original Message----- From: John Hofmann <jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com> Sent: Wed, Jul 29, 2015 9:13 am Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: New BPA Issue and need a few Beta Testers I have not gotten mine yet either and live only an hour away. I will check with the printer. Best, -john- John Hofmann Vice-President, IT and Production The Rees Group, Inc. 2424 American Lane Madison, WI 53704 Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150 Fax: 608.443.2474 Email: jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com > On Jul 29, 2015, at 6:31 AM, Pietflyer1977 wrote: > "Pietflyer1977" > > Just curious....I never got a newsletter the week of June 21st nor did I get another before Brodhead? I am the only one? Do I need to see if my mailman likes Pietenpols? [Rolling Eyes] > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445332#445332 > > > > > > > > > > - The Pietenpol-List Email Forum - Navigator to browse Un/Subscription, Photoshare, and much much more: http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - Forums! http://forums.matronics.com - List Contribution Web Site - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: props for sale
From: Tim White <aa5flyer(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jul 29, 2015
I have a C-85, what are you asking? What are the lengths and pitch? On 7/27/2015 10:35 AM, Douwe Blumberg wrote: > > Hey all, > > I have two props hanging on my wall which I have decided to sell since > I have no use for them. > > One is a brand new, custom carved prop for an 0200 piet made by Culver > props/valley engineering. > > The other is a completely unused Ole Fahlin brass-edged prop. I > researched it and it was made in the fifties and has been stored > inside ever since. It is in immaculate condition with absolutely no > delamination or any issues, so I am pretty confident it is useable > though Id certainly ck it out first. It is a thing of beauty. Cant > remember the pitch and size, but I think its for an A65 . I can ck > if anyones interested > > Douwe > > http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 29, 2015
Subject: Re: New BPA Issue and need a few Beta Testers
From: Tony Crawford <tonyp51qa(at)gmail.com>
Hi, I have not seen anything either! I did get one back in Feb 2015. I was wondering if I would see anything at brodhead. Didn't!!! Tony On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 6:31 AM, Pietflyer1977 wrote: > > Just curious....I never got a newsletter the week of June 21st nor did I > get another before Brodhead? I am the only one? Do I need to see if my > mailman likes Pietenpols? [Rolling Eyes] > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445332#445332 > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Ray Krause <raykrause(at)frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: facebook forum
Date: Jul 29, 2015
What is the Facebook list?never heard of it. Ray Krause Sent from my iPad > On Jul 26, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Douwe Blumberg wrot e: > > Hey all, > > It sadly is seeming as if this list is dying. I keep hearing that lots of people have moved over to the facebook piet page. Never having even seen a facebook page, would someone tell me how to find it and get signed up? Kin d of miss keeping up with everybody. > > Douwe > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jul 29, 2015
Subject: Re: facebook forum
https://www.facebook.com/groups/154625746626/ I like both Steve D On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 9:08 PM, Ray Krause wrote: > What is the Facebook list?never heard of it. > > Ray Krause > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jul 26, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Douwe Blumberg > wrote: > > Hey all, > > > It sadly is seeming as if this list is dying. I keep hearing that lots of > people have moved over to the facebook piet page. Never having even seen a > facebook page, would someone tell me how to find it and get signed up? > Kind of miss keeping up with everybody. > > > Douwe > > > * > > > * > > -- Blue Skies, Steve D ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Hydraulic Brake Calipers
From: "tools" <n0kkj(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Jul 29, 2015
Matco go kart brakes on the Harley rotors. Work great, last long time! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445408#445408 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Semih Oksay <semihoksay(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jul 30, 2015
Subject: Re: test, let me know if this comes through
I get it loud and clear. Semih=8B 2015-07-30 2:58 GMT+03:00 THOMAS.233327 : > Dowe > It came through just fine for me, and I'm just a lurker! > Tom Hale > Building a Sonex/AeroVee > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Douwe Blumberg" <douwe(at)douwestudios.com> > *To: *pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com > *Sent: *Monday, July 27, 2015 5:02:58 AM > *Subject: *Pietenpol-List: test, let me know if this comes through > > Would someone let me know if this message shows up? > > > I posted a few yesterday but don=99t see them on the list this morn ing, > wonder if something=99s wrong. > > > Thanks > > > Douwe > > * > > " target="_blank" data-mce-href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?P ietenpol-List <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List>">http://w ww.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List <http://www.matronics.com/Navigat or?Pietenpol-List> > ta-mce-href="http://forums.matronics.com " >http://forums.matronics.com > _blank" data-mce-href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution ">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > * > > > * > =========== .matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List> =========== =========== om/contribution> =========== > > * > > -- Semih Oksay ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Semih Oksay <semihoksay(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jul 30, 2015
Subject: Re: email test
I get it. Semih in Istanbul, Turkey=8B 2015-07-29 23:25 GMT+03:00 Jack Philips : > Nope > > > *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto: > owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Douwe Blumberg > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 29, 2015 8:38 AM > *To:* pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com > *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: email test > > > Anybody getting this? > > > Douwe > > > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List * > > *http://forums.matronics.com * > > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution * > > > * > =========== .matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List> =========== =========== om/contribution> =========== > > * > > -- Semih Oksay ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 30, 2015
From: cozygirrrl(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: cozy girls??
Yes, we are. Getting back to normal after two weeks at Oshkosh. The rotary community is working on finding the right person to pick up the production of the RWS drive. We were going to do it but the volume is too l ow. Chrissi CG Products www.CozyGirrrl.com -----Original Message----- From: Douwe Blumberg <douwe(at)douwestudios.com> Sent: Wed, Jul 29, 2015 12:13 pm Subject: Pietenpol-List: cozy girls?? Are you guys still out there? I=99m looking for a Tracy Crook, RWS redrive and know that a lot of C ozy people bought them. He no longer makes =98em so I=99m beat ing the bushes for one laying unused with a project. Douwe ==== ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Any builders/flyers in Tn?
From: "scottsaver" <scottsaver(at)icloud.com>
Date: Jul 30, 2015
Good Morning! My name is Scott Saver. I recently moved to Spring Hill TN and keep an RV8 At Lewisburg (KLUG). My father and I were building a Piete when he passed two years ago. Trying to get motivated to finish the project so thought I'd See if anyone was nearby. Would love to see a completed airplane. Thanks! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445413#445413 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Any builders/flyers in Tn?
From: "Lorenzo" <larharris2(at)msn.com>
Date: Jul 30, 2015
Tellico Plains, TN (85TN). About a 2 1/2 hr. drive from Spring Hill. Fly your RV over for our monthly fly-in (2nd Sat. May-Oct, 1100-1300). I'm about 1/2 done with mine, but we have a complete-and-flying one here also. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445414#445414 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 30, 2015
Subject: Re: Any builders/flyers in Tn?
From: Robert Gow <rgow(at)avionicsdesign.ca>
Original Message From: Lorenzo Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 09:29 Reply To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Any builders/flyers in Tn? Tellico Plains, TN (85TN). About a 2 1/2 hr. drive from Spring Hill. Fly your RV over for our monthly fly-in (2nd Sat. May-Oct, 1100-1300). I'm about 1/2 done with mine, but we have a complete-and-flying one here also. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445414#445414 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: test, let me know if this comes through
From: "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld(at)lacity.org>
Date: Jul 30, 2015
Douwe, It made it clear out to CA. I was wondering if the website had a kink in the communication lines myself. Cheers, -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445423#445423 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: ADS B in a Pietenpol?
From: "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld(at)lacity.org>
Date: Jul 30, 2015
I think that we will be grandfathered in. Our planes simply won't support the equipment needed. The FAA has already established that with our exceptions granted to us already. Newly built planes, I'm not even going to guess about those. What I personally worry about is if the drones are going to have (ADS-B in) so they can avoid real aircraft. This would still leave us vulnerable to collisions with them (Drones) since we won't even have (ADS-B out). We operate out of farm fields and dirt strips. I have a hard time believing that folks like Amazon can avoid flying though these areas since most of our flying fields are not even on Sectionals. What do the rest of you think? -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445424#445424 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: test, let me know if this comes through
From: airlion2(at)gmail.com
Date: Jul 30, 2015
Scott,I am replacing my corvair with a c85 and would like any suggestions you may have. Engine is. Mounted and firewall forward is wired. Yet to do the panel and fuses. What do you think of automotive fuses? Gardiner Mason Sent from my iPad > On Jul 30, 2015, at 10:10 AM, "AircamperN11MS" wrote: > > > Douwe, > > It made it clear out to CA. I was wondering if the website had a kink in the communication lines myself. > > Cheers, > > -------- > Scott Liefeld > Flying N11MS since March 1972 > Steel Tube > C-85-12 > Wire Wheels > Brodhead in 1996 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445423#445423 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: test, let me know if this comes through
From: "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld(at)lacity.org>
Date: Jul 30, 2015
Hi Gardiner, You'll like your C-85. I am an EAA Tech counselor and look at many projects. I have seen a few guys use automotive fuses in the aircraft and you can, since it is an experimental airplane. Now here is my opinion for you: I would use aircraft or aircraft quality reset-able circuit breakers for a couple of reasons. Again, it is your choice but this is why I wouldn't use automotive stuff. The wire connections made to the circuit breaker are solid when a screw type connection is made at the back of a breaker. Automotive fuses are typically a friction type connection. While in-flight and a breaker kicks off you can reset it and hope it holds. With a fuse, you will need to search for one (fuse) and then try to change it in flight. Now lets say that you land somewhere and fix whatever caused the fuse or circuit breaker to fail. With a reset-able circuit breaker you just reset it and you are on your way. With a fuse, aircraft or automotive style, You will need to find another one somewhere to replace the spare one you have already used. Not very convenient at best. Another reason I try to steer folks away of fuses is that the mindset of most folks is that (If I replace that 15 amp fuse with a 20 amp fuse) I can make it home and fix whatever the problem is later. Not a good idea. That may be just the recipe for a burnt up component or a fire. Maybe losing the whole plane. My three cents, P.S. I like using a 72x42 prop on my plane. It is a good all around prop for the Piet. Cheers, -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445428#445428 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-LME0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" <michael.d.cuy(at)nasa.gov>
Subject: Mong Sport Biplane for sale on ebay
Date: Jul 31, 2015
I know this is off-topic for Pietenpols but this little beauty was at the P ietenpol Fly-In two weeks ago and it sure looked nice. Talk about a Pitts Special-looking plane on a budget. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mong-Sport-Biplane-/191643972294?forcerrptr=true& hash=item2c9edef2c6&item=191643972294#ht_554wt_1362 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: test, let me know if this comes through
From: "dgaldrich" <dgaldrich(at)embarqmail.com>
Date: Jul 31, 2015
There's a down side to resettable c/b's. SOMETHING tripped the c/b and unless you KNOW it was a nuisance trip, resetting it can and has caused serious problems to include fatal crashes. The FAA recommends and, in some cases, mandates NOT resetting tripped c/b's for Part 135 and 121 operators. In a well designed electrical system, one tripped c/b will not make further flight hazardous -- inconvenient maybe -- but not hazardous. Ground speed zero is the time to troubleshoot misbehaving c/b's. Dave Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445454#445454 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: ADS B in a Pietenpol?
From: "dgaldrich" <dgaldrich(at)embarqmail.com>
Date: Jul 31, 2015
Late breaking news -- Google is getting into the ADS-B game to for their drones. Be afraid -- very afraid. Dave Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445455#445455 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Mong Sport Biplane for sale on ebay
From: Jack <jack(at)textors.com>
Date: Jul 31, 2015
Mike is that Tom Wottrengs? Sent from my iPad Jack Textor > On Jul 31, 2015, at 2:22 PM, "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-LME0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" wrote: > > I know this is off-topic for Pietenpols but this little beauty was at the P ietenpol Fly-In two weeks ago and it sure looked nice. > > Talk about a Pitts Special-looking plane on a budget. > > > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mong-Sport-Biplane-/191643972294?forcerrptr=true &hash=item2c9edef2c6&item=191643972294#ht_554wt_1362 > > > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 01, 2015
Subject: OT birdstrike
From: Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch(at)gmail.com>
Yesterday I was at the park with grandkids and a small bird of prey (3 ft wingspan) flew pretty close to me. I thought nothing of it. Then it came around from behind me and did a badly executed touch and go on my head! Luckily he had his gear up. He went around and was making another approach but I "got big" and yelled. He went around, landed on a telephone pole and ignored us for the next two hours. He may have thought my bald head was an egg. Blue Skies Steve D ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: test, let me know if this comes through
From: airlion2(at)gmail.com
Date: Aug 01, 2015
Thanks Scott. I will go your way and use the resettable breakers. Gardiner. Sent from my iPad > On Jul 30, 2015, at 1:20 PM, "AircamperN11MS" wrote: > > > Hi Gardiner, > > You'll like your C-85. I am an EAA Tech counselor and look at many projects. I have seen a few guys use automotive fuses in the aircraft and you can, since it is an experimental airplane. > > Now here is my opinion for you: > > I would use aircraft or aircraft quality reset-able circuit breakers for a couple of reasons. Again, it is your choice but this is why I wouldn't use automotive stuff. > > The wire connections made to the circuit breaker are solid when a screw type connection is made at the back of a breaker. Automotive fuses are typically a friction type connection. > > While in-flight and a breaker kicks off you can reset it and hope it holds. With a fuse, you will need to search for one (fuse) and then try to change it in flight. > > Now lets say that you land somewhere and fix whatever caused the fuse or circuit breaker to fail. With a reset-able circuit breaker you just reset it and you are on your way. With a fuse, aircraft or automotive style, You will need to find another one somewhere to replace the spare one you have already used. Not very convenient at best. > > Another reason I try to steer folks away of fuses is that the mindset of most folks is that (If I replace that 15 amp fuse with a 20 amp fuse) I can make it home and fix whatever the problem is later. Not a good idea. That may be just the recipe for a burnt up component or a fire. Maybe losing the whole plane. > > My three cents, > > P.S. I like using a 72x42 prop on my plane. It is a good all around prop for the Piet. > > Cheers, > > -------- > Scott Liefeld > Flying N11MS since March 1972 > Steel Tube > C-85-12 > Wire Wheels > Brodhead in 1996 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445428#445428 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Corvair prop?
From: "Larry Vetter" <vetter(at)evertek.net>
Date: Aug 01, 2015
A question for you Corvair flyers. What Dia. and pitch props are you using and what kind of static, or takeoff RPM are you getting. I know a lot of you are using the WW conversion. Mine is the BP conversion so the fan is still on it. Not sure if that makes a lot of difference or not....So, have at it, and thank you in advance. Larry Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445495#445495 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Pietn38b(at)aol.com
Date: Aug 01, 2015
Subject: Re: Corvair prop?
Larry I also have the BP conversion with the fan. The only mods are 30 over forged pistons and the WW recommended cam. I am using a Warp Drive ground adjustable prop. It is set to give me 2700 static, I usually see about 2800 to 2850 on take off. The fan does make a differance, I took the belt of the fan and the static went up but I cannot remember how much. Hope this helps a little Jim Ballew Piet N38B In a message dated 8/1/2015 7:30:25 P.M. Central Daylight Time, vetter(at)evertek.net writes: --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Larry Vetter" A question for you Corvair flyers. What Dia. and pitch props are you using and what kind of static, or takeoff RPM are you getting. I know a lot of you are using the WW conversion. Mine is the BP conversion so the fan is still on it. Not sure if that makes a lot of difference or not....So, have at it, and thank you in advance. Larry Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445495#445495 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Corvair prop?
Date: Aug 01, 2015
66-34. T/O rpm is 3100. Gary Boothe NX308MB -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Vetter Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 5:30 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Corvair prop? --> A question for you Corvair flyers. What Dia. and pitch props are you using and what kind of static, or takeoff RPM are you getting. I know a lot of you are using the WW conversion. Mine is the BP conversion so the fan is still on it. Not sure if that makes a lot of difference or not....So, have at it, and thank you in advance. Larry Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445495#445495 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Any builders/flyers in Tn?
From: "tools" <n0kkj(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Aug 01, 2015
Not too far away south of chatt tn, in chickamauga ga, welcome to come see nx2rn any time. Short fuse, straight axle, cont a-65, all wood, one piece wing built by Dick navratil. Mike danford, 423 580 1383 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445498#445498 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Clif Dawson" <cdawson5854(at)shaw.ca>
Subject: Re: OT birdstrike
Date: Aug 01, 2015
Must have a nest nearby. Just letting you know you're on his (or her) watchlist. Clif Man is rated the highest animal, at least among all animals who returned the questionnaire. (Robert Brault) He may have thought my bald head was an egg. Blue Skies Steve D ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 02, 2015
Subject: Re: OT birdstrike
From: Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch(at)gmail.com>
I have difficulty not being jealous of birds. They have wings and I don't. Steve D On Aug 2, 2015 12:41 AM, "Clif Dawson" wrote: > Must have a nest nearby. Just letting you know you're on > his (or her) watchlist. > > Clif > Man is rated the highest animal, at least among all animals who returned > the questionnaire. (Robert Brault > <http://www.art-quotes.com/auth_search.php?authid=2777>) > > > He may have thought my bald head was an egg. > > Blue Skies > Steve D > > * > > > * > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Corvair prop?
From: Michael Groah <dskogrover(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Aug 02, 2015
I have a culver 66 x 30. I get about 2850 or so on TO I cruise at around 2500 solo 2600 when at gross weight. This gives me around 70-75 mph. It will turn more and go faster but feels good at those numbers. I flew Gary's prop on my plane and if I remember correctly my rpm was similar to what he sees with his prop. It gave me better climb but required more rpm for the same cruise speeds when compared to my prop. I'm happy with my prop and climb is decent considering all things. I've climbed out at 1320 lbs gross on a warm day and it still climbed. Mike Groah 414MV Tulare CA Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 1, 2015, at 9:09 PM, "Gary Boothe" wrote: > > > 66-34. T/O rpm is 3100. > > Gary Boothe > NX308MB > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Vetter > Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 5:30 PM > To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Corvair prop? > > --> > > A question for you Corvair flyers. What Dia. and pitch props are you using > and what kind of static, or takeoff RPM are you getting. I know a lot of you > are using the WW conversion. Mine is the BP conversion so the fan is still > on it. Not sure if that makes a lot of difference or not....So, have at it, > and thank you in advance. > Larry > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445495#445495 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Corvair prop?
From: "Larry Vetter" <vetter(at)evertek.net>
Date: Aug 02, 2015
Hummm, thanks so far...The reason I ask is the prop on mine was carved with a prop carving machine and the owner couldn't remember what the pitch was and its not marked on the prop. I'm only getting around 2600. He never flew it with this prop. Mike, wouldn't more pitch give you less rpm ?? Larry Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445523#445523 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Gary Boothe <gboothe5(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Corvair prop?
Date: Aug 02, 2015
Larry, I believe that it is common knowledge that wood props have different outcomes with their intended performance based on pitch. Also, my prop is hand carved by me, and I only guarantee my intent, not the result of my intent. My suggestion is that you contact a prop manufacturer and explain your application. They will know how to guide you. Gary Boothe NX308MB Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 2, 2015, at 7:16 PM, Larry Vetter wrote: > > > Hummm, thanks so far...The reason I ask is the prop on mine was carved with a prop carving machine and the owner couldn't remember what the pitch was and its not marked on the prop. I'm only getting around 2600. > He never flew it with this prop. > Mike, wouldn't more pitch give you less rpm ?? > Larry > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445523#445523 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Clif Dawson" <cdawson5854(at)shaw.ca>
Subject: Re: OT birdstrike
Date: Aug 02, 2015
I'll bet they ignored the questionaire! :-) Clif If a man is alone in the forest and says something, is he still wrong? Someone PS- I've added this to my "Quotes" folder. I have difficulty not being jealous of birds. They have wings and I don't. Steve D ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 03, 2015
Subject: Getting ready to paint
From: "Charles N. Campbell" <charlescampbell1924(at)gmail.com>
OK! I have a question for someone who has painted a Piet with latex house paint. The Stewart system video shows the unpainted surface of the fabric being washed with a soap solution before painting. Of course he was using Stewart system paints. Did any of you clean the fabric with a soap solution before the primer paint was applied? If so, what method did you use. I don't have any of the Stewart soap solution and am wondering what to use -- if any or what to do if soap solution is not used. I would appreciate any help. Chuck ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 03, 2015
From: Jim Boyer <boyerjrb(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Getting ready to paint
Hi Chuck, I painted my fuselage last week using the Stewart System and yes I first wa shed the fabric with their cleaning solution which is a mile soap solution. However you then rinse the fabric with a clean unused terrycloth towel usi ng plain ( I used distilled water) water. =C2- The purpose of the water is to wet the fibers of the cloth so the primer ca n better penetrate the fabric to make the mechanical bond with the fabric. The soap solution is to clean off any dirt, dust, finger prints, etc. so ag ain the primer will better adhere to the fabric. Cheers, Jim B. ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: test, let me know if this comes through
From: "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld(at)lacity.org>
Date: Aug 03, 2015
You're welcome. Cheers, -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445537#445537 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch(at)gmail.com>
Date: Aug 03, 2015
Subject: Re: Getting ready to paint
Uh, Chuck, I did not see anyone wash the materiel on the videos I saw, So I did not wash it myself. That does not mean it should not be done but I am not going to worry about it. I think it has to do with oils that are used in the manufacturing process. Here is some free advice, (and worth every Penny) from a guy who did a 20 foot paint job. (It looks great 20 feet away.) The initial Prime is done to push the latex paint through the weave and get a mechanical grip on the fabric. So I thinned it with windshield washer fluid. I also tried thinning with water to get it to "Push" into the weave. Both worked, Washer fluid dries faster. Painting with Latex is so much easier that I will not hesitate to paint another paint scheme when this needs redoing. It is just that easy. I actually had to paint over some decorative markings and repaint them and did so without getting stressed. I had a 2 year old grandson running around. When he got into the paint it was a nonevent. Just wash him up. Are you going to paint with rollers or spray? I could not get it to look good with rollers, but My Harbor Freight HVLP paint gun made it easy to spray. If I did it again I would simply spray and would not sand unless there is a flaw. I just wore a paper mask and safety glasses, old clothes and had a fan blowing gently to keep the hanging mist moving out of the garage. I shared a 1930s garage with my neighbor. There was a chickenwire "wall", so I hung a blue tarp up between my side and his and ran the fan. I think some of his camping stuff now has a slight yellow haze to it. Everything not covered will get a light coat on it if you spray. My fuselage was mostly assembled, and when I was ready to paint it the pollen was pretty bad in San Antonio. So at that point I did make a paint booth with plastic and put fans pushing and sucking. My neighbor was so excited that I was painting a plane in his garage he did not mind. I bought a roll of masking paper at the auto paint shop about 20 inches wide. Nice to know that paint won't go through it. about $16 and I still have a bunch left over. Practice with several types of masking tape and various thinning mixtures. I found that some tapes did not do what they said. Others that were cheaper worked great. One that said it gave a "Sharp edge" allowed the paint to creep under it Anouther made a super sharp line. Sorry I don't remember the brands. Also I saved old masking tape by sticking it to a cardboard box and used it again to tape covers over various items not to be painted. new masking tape was for sharp edges. I used flotrol which is supposed to make the paint lay down and spread out better, but I am not sure it made a difference with the spray rig. Enjoy painting, I did. Blue (or what ever you paint them) Skies, Steve D. On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 8:47 AM, Charles N. Campbell < charlescampbell1924(at)gmail.com> wrote: > OK! I have a question for someone who has painted a Piet with latex house > paint. The Stewart system video shows the unpainted surface of the fabric > being washed with a soap solution before painting. Of course he was using > Stewart system paints. Did any of you clean the fabric with a soap > solution before the primer paint was applied? If so, what method did you > use. I don't have any of the Stewart soap solution and am wondering what > to use -- if any or what to do if soap solution is not used. I would > appreciate any help. Chuck > > * > > > * > > -- Blue Skies, Steve D ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 03, 2015
Subject: Re: Getting ready to paint
From: "Charles N. Campbell" <charlescampbell1924(at)gmail.com>
Steve, I was going to use a foam paint brush. Think I'll use the brush for the primer and use a foam roller for the finish coats. In the Stewart video the painter used a foam brush for the primer and sprayed the finish coats. I can't use a sprayer because I don't have a spray booth. The Weiner Dog videos show using a foam roller. Of course he was going for a very high shine on his surfaces so he used about four different levels of sandpaper -- like 600 grit, then 1000, then 1200, and then 1500. He got a high gloss look which I'm not going for. I want a more 1920's look. I don't know if they even had 1500 grit sandpaper back then. Did you sand your finish? Chuck On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Steven Dortch wrote: > Uh, Chuck, I did not see anyone wash the materiel on the videos I saw, So > I did not wash it myself. That does not mean it should not be done but I am > not going to worry about it. I think it has to do with oils that are used > in the manufacturing process. > > Here is some free advice, (and worth every Penny) from a guy who did a 20 > foot paint job. (It looks great 20 feet away.) > > The initial Prime is done to push the latex paint through the weave and > get a mechanical grip on the fabric. So I thinned it with windshield washer > fluid. I also tried thinning with water to get it to "Push" into the weave. > Both worked, Washer fluid dries faster. > > Painting with Latex is so much easier that I will not hesitate to paint > another paint scheme when this needs redoing. It is just that easy. I > actually had to paint over some decorative markings and repaint them and > did so without getting stressed. I had a 2 year old grandson running > around. When he got into the paint it was a nonevent. Just wash him up. > > Are you going to paint with rollers or spray? > > I could not get it to look good with rollers, but My Harbor Freight HVLP > paint gun made it easy to spray. If I did it again I would simply spray and > would not sand unless there is a flaw. > > I just wore a paper mask and safety glasses, old clothes and had a fan > blowing gently to keep the hanging mist moving out of the garage. I shared > a 1930s garage with my neighbor. There was a chickenwire "wall", so I hung > a blue tarp up between my side and his and ran the fan. I think some of his > camping stuff now has a slight yellow haze to it. Everything not covered > will get a light coat on it if you spray. My fuselage was mostly assembled, > and when I was ready to paint it the pollen was pretty bad in San Antonio. > So at that point I did make a paint booth with plastic and put fans pushing > and sucking. My neighbor was so excited that I was painting a plane in his > garage he did not mind. > > I bought a roll of masking paper at the auto paint shop about 20 inches > wide. Nice to know that paint won't go through it. about $16 and I still > have a bunch left over. > > Practice with several types of masking tape and various thinning mixtures. > I found that some tapes did not do what they said. Others that were cheaper > worked great. One that said it gave a "Sharp edge" allowed the paint to > creep under it Anouther made a super sharp line. Sorry I don't remember the > brands. Also I saved old masking tape by sticking it to a cardboard box and > used it again to tape covers over various items not to be painted. new > masking tape was for sharp edges. > > I used flotrol which is supposed to make the paint lay down and spread out > better, but I am not sure it made a difference with the spray rig. > > Enjoy painting, I did. > > Blue (or what ever you paint them) Skies, > Steve D. > > On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 8:47 AM, Charles N. Campbell < > charlescampbell1924(at)gmail.com> wrote: > >> OK! I have a question for someone who has painted a Piet with latex >> house paint. The Stewart system video shows the unpainted surface of the >> fabric being washed with a soap solution before painting. Of course he was >> using Stewart system paints. Did any of you clean the fabric with a soap >> solution before the primer paint was applied? If so, what method did you >> use. I don't have any of the Stewart soap solution and am wondering what >> to use -- if any or what to do if soap solution is not used. I would >> appreciate any help. Chuck >> >> * >> >> " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List >> tp://forums.matronics.com <http://forums.matronics.com> >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> >> * >> >> > > > -- > Blue Skies, > Steve D > > * > > > * > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch(at)gmail.com>
Date: Aug 03, 2015
Subject: Re: Getting ready to paint
Yes, I sanded my finish. I would not do it again if I used a spray rig. But if I rollered it, I would sand, it is not hard. watch malcom's videos. The Glossier the paint the more shiny and the more flaws will show. I did Semi Gloss, Kind of shiny but my bad technique can still be seen. When I sanded it to took the gloss off. I think next time I will spray the plane with semi Gloss and not sand. Or I may go Satin and not floss if it is a "military" paint job. I did find out, from a buddy who painted his plane with rollers, that you cannot use harbor freight sponge rollers. He said a denser foam worked well for his. He did a neat WWI German camouflage paint job. I think his is Satin and looks great. There are several planes at my home airport painted with latex. One looks like Imron. Wow it is sharp. One looks very dull. Looks like it is flat paint put on with cheap brushes. But they are all painted and they all fly (But mine.) Blue Skies, Steve D On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 10:17 AM, Charles N. Campbell < charlescampbell1924(at)gmail.com> wrote: > Steve, I was going to use a foam paint brush. Think I'll use the brush > for the primer and use a foam roller for the finish coats. In the Stewart > video the painter used a foam brush for the primer and sprayed the finish > coats. I can't use a sprayer because I don't have a spray booth. The > Weiner Dog videos show using a foam roller. Of course he was going for a > very high shine on his surfaces so he used about four different levels of > sandpaper -- like 600 grit, then 1000, then 1200, and then 1500. He got a > high gloss look which I'm not going for. I want a more 1920's look. I > don't know if they even had 1500 grit sandpaper back then. Did you sand > your finish? Chuck > > On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Steven Dortch > wrote: > >> Uh, Chuck, I did not see anyone wash the materiel on the videos I saw, So >> I did not wash it myself. That does not mean it should not be done but I am >> not going to worry about it. I think it has to do with oils that are used >> in the manufacturing process. >> >> Here is some free advice, (and worth every Penny) from a guy who did a 20 >> foot paint job. (It looks great 20 feet away.) >> >> The initial Prime is done to push the latex paint through the weave and >> get a mechanical grip on the fabric. So I thinned it with windshield washer >> fluid. I also tried thinning with water to get it to "Push" into the weave. >> Both worked, Washer fluid dries faster. >> >> Painting with Latex is so much easier that I will not hesitate to paint >> another paint scheme when this needs redoing. It is just that easy. I >> actually had to paint over some decorative markings and repaint them and >> did so without getting stressed. I had a 2 year old grandson running >> around. When he got into the paint it was a nonevent. Just wash him up. >> >> Are you going to paint with rollers or spray? >> >> I could not get it to look good with rollers, but My Harbor Freight HVLP >> paint gun made it easy to spray. If I did it again I would simply spray and >> would not sand unless there is a flaw. >> >> I just wore a paper mask and safety glasses, old clothes and had a fan >> blowing gently to keep the hanging mist moving out of the garage. I shared >> a 1930s garage with my neighbor. There was a chickenwire "wall", so I hung >> a blue tarp up between my side and his and ran the fan. I think some of his >> camping stuff now has a slight yellow haze to it. Everything not covered >> will get a light coat on it if you spray. My fuselage was mostly assembled, >> and when I was ready to paint it the pollen was pretty bad in San Antonio. >> So at that point I did make a paint booth with plastic and put fans pushing >> and sucking. My neighbor was so excited that I was painting a plane in his >> garage he did not mind. >> >> I bought a roll of masking paper at the auto paint shop about 20 inches >> wide. Nice to know that paint won't go through it. about $16 and I still >> have a bunch left over. >> >> Practice with several types of masking tape and various thinning >> mixtures. I found that some tapes did not do what they said. Others that >> were cheaper worked great. One that said it gave a "Sharp edge" allowed the >> paint to creep under it Anouther made a super sharp line. Sorry I don't >> remember the brands. Also I saved old masking tape by sticking it to a >> cardboard box and used it again to tape covers over various items not to be >> painted. new masking tape was for sharp edges. >> >> I used flotrol which is supposed to make the paint lay down and spread >> out better, but I am not sure it made a difference with the spray rig. >> >> Enjoy painting, I did. >> >> Blue (or what ever you paint them) Skies, >> Steve D. >> >> On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 8:47 AM, Charles N. Campbell < >> charlescampbell1924(at)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> OK! I have a question for someone who has painted a Piet with latex >>> house paint. The Stewart system video shows the unpainted surface of the >>> fabric being washed with a soap solution before painting. Of course he was >>> using Stewart system paints. Did any of you clean the fabric with a soap >>> solution before the primer paint was applied? If so, what method did you >>> use. I don't have any of the Stewart soap solution and am wondering what >>> to use -- if any or what to do if soap solution is not used. I would >>> appreciate any help. Chuck >>> >>> * >>> >>> " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List >>> tp://forums.matronics.com <http://forums.matronics.com> >>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>> >>> * >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Blue Skies, >> Steve D >> >> * >> >> " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List >> tp://forums.matronics.com <http://forums.matronics.com> >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> >> * >> >> > * > > > * > > -- Blue Skies, Steve D ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Gary Boothe <gboothe5(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Getting ready to paint
Date: Aug 03, 2015
Charles, I used Kelly Moore over EcoBond and washed the fabric as they describe, usin g their cleaning solution. My applications were done by rolling the primer c oats (KM primer), and using a foam brush for color coats, leaving it with a c rossed-stroke brush look. My upcoming project is a Baby Ace, where I'll be doing a similar application , except that I'll wash the fabric with 'house wash' from Home Depot, primer and finish as described by Wiener Dog Aero, sanding and polishing the paint . Gary Boothe Sent from my iPad > On Aug 3, 2015, at 8:17 AM, Charles N. Campbell wrote: > > Steve, I was going to use a foam paint brush. Think I'll use the brush fo r the primer and use a foam roller for the finish coats. In the Stewart vide o the painter used a foam brush for the primer and sprayed the finish coats. I can't use a sprayer because I don't have a spray booth. The Weiner Dog v ideos show using a foam roller. Of course he was going for a very high shin e on his surfaces so he used about four different levels of sandpaper -- lik e 600 grit, then 1000, then 1200, and then 1500. He got a high gloss look w hich I'm not going for. I want a more 1920's look. I don't know if they ev en had 1500 grit sandpaper back then. Did you sand your finish? Chuck > >> On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Steven Dortch wrote: >> Uh, Chuck, I did not see anyone wash the materiel on the videos I saw, So I did not wash it myself. That does not mean it should not be done but I am not going to worry about it. I think it has to do with oils that are used i n the manufacturing process. >> >> Here is some free advice, (and worth every Penny) from a guy who did a 20 foot paint job. (It looks great 20 feet away.) >> >> The initial Prime is done to push the latex paint through the weave and g et a mechanical grip on the fabric. So I thinned it with windshield washer f luid. I also tried thinning with water to get it to "Push" into the weave. B oth worked, Washer fluid dries faster. >> >> Painting with Latex is so much easier that I will not hesitate to paint a nother paint scheme when this needs redoing. It is just that easy. I actuall y had to paint over some decorative markings and repaint them and did so wit hout getting stressed. I had a 2 year old grandson running around. When he g ot into the paint it was a nonevent. Just wash him up. >> >> Are you going to paint with rollers or spray? >> >> I could not get it to look good with rollers, but My Harbor Freight HVLP p aint gun made it easy to spray. If I did it again I would simply spray and w ould not sand unless there is a flaw. >> >> I just wore a paper mask and safety glasses, old clothes and had a fan bl owing gently to keep the hanging mist moving out of the garage. I shared a 1 930s garage with my neighbor. There was a chickenwire "wall", so I hung a b lue tarp up between my side and his and ran the fan. I think some of his cam ping stuff now has a slight yellow haze to it. Everything not covered will g et a light coat on it if you spray. My fuselage was mostly assembled, and wh en I was ready to paint it the pollen was pretty bad in San Antonio. So at t hat point I did make a paint booth with plastic and put fans pushing and suc king. My neighbor was so excited that I was painting a plane in his garage h e did not mind. >> >> I bought a roll of masking paper at the auto paint shop about 20 inches w ide. Nice to know that paint won't go through it. about $16 and I still have a bunch left over. >> >> Practice with several types of masking tape and various thinning mixtures . I found that some tapes did not do what they said. Others that were cheape r worked great. One that said it gave a "Sharp edge" allowed the paint to cr eep under it Anouther made a super sharp line. Sorry I don't remember the br ands. Also I saved old masking tape by sticking it to a cardboard box and us ed it again to tape covers over various items not to be painted. new masking tape was for sharp edges. >> >> I used flotrol which is supposed to make the paint lay down and spread ou t better, but I am not sure it made a difference with the spray rig. >> >> Enjoy painting, I did. >> >> Blue (or what ever you paint them) Skies, >> Steve D. >> >>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 8:47 AM, Charles N. Campbell @gmail.com> wrote: >>> OK! I have a question for someone who has painted a Piet with latex hou se paint. The Stewart system video shows the unpainted surface of the fabri c being washed with a soap solution before painting. Of course he was using Stewart system paints. Did any of you clean the fabric with a soap solutio n before the primer paint was applied? If so, what method did you use. I d on't have any of the Stewart soap solution and am wondering what to use -- i f any or what to do if soap solution is not used. I would appreciate any he lp. Chuck >>> >>> >>> " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List >>> tp://forums.matronics.com >>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Blue Skies, >> Steve D >> >> >> " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List >> tp://forums.matronics.com >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> > > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douwe(at)douwestudios.com>
Subject: airports enroute
Date: Aug 03, 2015
Hey, If I fly to Blakesburg this year, any suggestions on good places to find fuel and possibly grass runways?? I'd be heading from the Cincinnati area to Blakesburg IA. Douwe ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Nice photos
From: "Bill Church" <billspiet(at)sympatico.ca>
Date: Aug 03, 2015
Saw a couple of nice shots of Douwe's Piet on Flickr. They've been manipulated to make them look antique-y. They look pretty cool to me. https://flic.kr/p/vWxNfx https://flic.kr/p/v2fwca Bill C. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445555#445555 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Nice photos
From: "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld(at)lacity.org>
Date: Aug 03, 2015
I love them. The wrist watch in the second photo is the only give away to me that it is a more recent Pic. Whoever did that did a great job. Kudos, -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445556#445556 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Nice photos
From: "Bill Church" <billspiet(at)sympatico.ca>
Date: Aug 03, 2015
Scott, More recent than what? The 1800s? Wristwatches have been around for longer than the Piet. :) BC Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445557#445557 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Nice photos
From: "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld(at)lacity.org>
Date: Aug 03, 2015
Bill, I guess you're right. In my mind I see a pocket watch. Probably since I haven't been around since the 1800's. Maybe a round wrist watch would play better in my young mid-fifties head. I guess I need to fly for 30 more minutes for forgiveness. P.S. I do have a pocket watch hanging on my instrument panel. I tried a sun dial but I couldn't hold the plane steady enough to use it. :) -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445559#445559 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 03, 2015
Subject: Re: Nice photos
From: Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch(at)gmail.com>
Some companies will not hire an old phart like m, who wears a wristwatch. It is an indication that they are not hip cats and use their smartphone for everything. Blue Skies, Steve Hip cat D On Aug 3, 2015 3:58 PM, "Bill Church" wrote: > billspiet(at)sympatico.ca> > > Scott, > More recent than what? The 1800s? > Wristwatches have been around for longer than the Piet. > > :) > > BC > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445557#445557 > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 04, 2015
From: shad bell <aviatorbell(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Getting ready to paint
I tried to send an email earlier about latex, i'll try again.=C2- NX92GB was brushed on Sears Wetherbeater Ultra exterior Latex paint.=C2- Brushed with 4 inch foam brushes, 90 degree brush strokes.=C2- If I remember cor rectly we cleaned the fabric with Dawn Dishwashing detergent and warm water .=C2- The primer coat was just white latex paint of the same brand.=C2- We have about 400 hrs and 9 years on her now and it holds up well, just a little faded. The glue was the cecobond (now eco-bond) and we did not thin and seal the fabric with the ceco bond, other than glue seams and the tapes .=C2- one cool trick dad taught me about masking trim lines is to mask th e trim off, then brush one coat of the base color where your trim line will be.=C2- This way if the 1st coat (in our case blue) bleeds under the tap e it is the same color as whats already on there.=C2- Then brush on the t rim colors.=C2- The first coat seals the edge of the tape and leaves a cr isp line.=C2- I have had to patch the wing when a piece of aluminum gutte r fell on it in the hangar a few years ago.=C2- It was pretty easy, MEK ( Lacquer thinner might work to) to strip repair area, clean with Dawn and wa rm water, and glue the patch, Iron down the edge and paint to match (not pe rfect match but has faded to same color after 3 years). Have fun, nontoxic and not much clean up if brushed. Shad On Monday, August 3, 2015 12:12 PM, Gary Boothe wrote: Charles, I used Kelly Moore over EcoBond and washed the fabric as they describe, usi ng their cleaning solution. My applications were done by rolling the primer coats (KM primer), and using a foam brush for color coats, leaving it with a crossed-stroke brush look. My upcoming project is a Baby Ace, where I'll be doing a similar applicatio n, except that I'll wash the fabric with 'house wash' from Home Depot, prim er and finish as described by Wiener Dog Aero, sanding and polishing the pa int. Gary Boothe Sent from my iPad On Aug 3, 2015, at 8:17 AM, Charles N. Campbell <charlescampbell1924@gmail. com> wrote: Steve, I was going to use a foam paint brush.=C2- Think I'll use the brus h for the primer and use a foam roller for the finish coats. In the Stewart video the painter used a foam brush for the primer and sprayed the finish coats.=C2- I can't use a sprayer because I don't have a spray booth.=C2 - The Weiner Dog videos show using a foam roller.=C2- Of course he was going for a very high shine on his surfaces so he used about four different levels of sandpaper -- like 600 grit, then 1000, then 1200, and then 1500. =C2- He got a high gloss look which I'm not going for.=C2- I want a mor e 1920's look.=C2- I don't know if they even had 1500 grit sandpaper back then.=C2- Did you sand your finish?=C2- Chuck On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Steven Dortch wrote: Uh, Chuck, I did not see anyone wash the materiel on the videos I saw, So I did not wash it myself. That does not mean it should not be done but=C2- I am not going to worry about it. I think it has to do with oils that are u sed in the manufacturing process. =C2-Here is some free advice, (and wort h every Penny) from a guy who did a 20 foot paint job. (It looks great 20 f eet away.)=C2-The initial Prime is done to push the latex paint through t he weave and get a mechanical grip on the fabric. So I thinned it with wind shield washer fluid. I also tried thinning with water to get it to "Push" i nto the weave. Both worked, Washer fluid dries faster. =C2-Painting with Latex is so much easier that I will not hesitate to paint another paint sch eme when this needs redoing. It is just that easy. I actually had to=C2-p aint over=C2-some=C2-decorative markings=C2-and repaint=C2-them and did so without getting stressed. I had a=C2-2 year old grandson running around. When he got into the paint it was a nonevent. Just wash him up. =C2 -Are you going to paint with rollers or spray?=C2-I could not get it to look good with rollers, but My Harbor Freight HVLP paint gun made it easy to spray. If I did it again I would simply spray and would not sand unless there is a flaw. =C2-I just wore a paper mask and safety glasses, old clo thes and had a fan blowing gently to keep the hanging mist moving out of th e garage. I shared a 1930s garage with=C2-my neighbor. There was a=C2-c hickenwire "wall",=C2-so I =C2-hung a blue tarp up between my side and his and ran the fan. I think some of his camping stuff now has a slight yel low haze to it. Everything not covered will get a light coat on it if you s pray. My fuselage was mostly assembled, and when I was ready to paint it th e pollen was pretty bad in San Antonio. So=C2-at that point I did make a paint booth with plastic and put fans pushing and sucking. My neighbor=C2 -was so excited that I was painting a plane in his garage he did not mind .=C2-I bought a roll of=C2-masking paper at the auto paint shop about 2 0 inches wide. Nice to know that paint won't go through it. about $16 and I still have a bunch left over.=C2-Practice with several types of masking tape and various thinning mixtures. I found that some tapes did not do what they said. Others that were cheaper worked great. One that said it gave a "Sharp edge" allowed the paint to creep under it Anouther made a super shar p line. Sorry I don't remember the brands. Also I saved old masking tape by sticking it to a cardboard box and used it again to tape covers over=C2- various items not to be painted. new masking tape was for sharp edges.=C2 -=C2-I used flotrol which is supposed to make the paint lay down and sp read out better, but I am not sure it made a difference with the spray rig. =C2-=C2-Enjoy painting, I did. =C2-Blue (or what ever you paint them) Skies,Steve D. On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 8:47 AM, Charles N. 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Subject: Re: Corvair prop?
From: "at7000ft" <at7000ft(at)gmail.com>
Date: Aug 03, 2015
Larry Vetter wrote: > A question for you Corvair flyers. What Dia. and pitch props are you using and what kind of static, or takeoff RPM are you getting. I know a lot of you are using the WW conversion. Mine is the BP conversion so the fan is still on it. Not sure if that makes a lot of difference or not....So, have at it, and thank you in advance. > Larry Have a WW 2700 conversion with a 66x30 Tennessee . Get 2850 static and 3000 full throttle level flight. Took off this morning (East of Colorado Springs CO) at 8500 ft DA on the runway and got almost 500 fpm at 60 mph. Rick H -------- Rick Holland NX6819Z Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445567#445567 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Getting ready to paint
From: Ray Krause <raykrause(at)frontiernet.net>
Date: Aug 03, 2015
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Date: Aug 04, 2015
Subject: Re: Getting ready to paint
From: "Charles N. Campbell" <charlescampbell1924(at)gmail.com>
Ray, there was no message. Chuck On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 10:58 PM, Ray Krause wrote: > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 04, 2015
From: Jim Brewer <alpha(at)concordnc.com>
Subject: Pictures
Did anyone on the list who attended AirVenture 2015 take any pictures of the naked Piet in the homebuilders hanger? Would you share them with me and the list? I forgot to take my camera when I was going to get pictures. Two other things: If I were to buy the wood to build a Piet from a lumber yard how much will it take and what sizes should I purchase? I understand there will be wood that I cannot use. That is true of when you build furniture. Any sources of spruce or fir you could recommend would be appreciated. I am in NC. Does anyone have a single copy (any issue) of the newsletter they could send me in .pdf ? I just want to "sample" the newsletter. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Gerrit-Jan Kaal <gjhkaal(at)gmail.com>
Subject: email test
Date: Aug 04, 2015
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Subject: Re: Pictures
From: "namrednos" <namrednos(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Aug 04, 2015
Jim, see attached material list. I purchased Spruce from both Aircraft Spruce and Wicks Aircraft. Everything can be sent UPS except the longerons and wing spars. For plywood I purchased Marine grade from a local boat shop (Homestead). Hope this helps Scott -------- Scott Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445581#445581 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/wood_bill_of_materials_703.pdf ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 04, 2015
Subject: Re: email test
From: "Charles N. Campbell" <charlescampbell1924(at)gmail.com>
Yes, Douwe, you're coming thru loud and clear. Why do you wonder?Chuck On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Gerrit-Jan Kaal wrote: > getting what? :D > ------------------------------ > From: Douwe Blumberg > Sent: 7/29/2015 19:16 > To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Pietenpol-List: email test > > Anybody getting this? > > > Douwe > > * > > > * > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Getting ready to paint
From: Ray Krause <raykrause(at)frontiernet.net>
Date: Aug 04, 2015
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From: Ray Krause <raykrause(at)frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: Getting ready to paint
Date: Aug 04, 2015
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Date: Aug 04, 2015
From: gliderx5(at)comcast.net
Subject: Re: Getting ready to paint
You guys might know that I'm a bit of a "Gloss" nut, but I receintly painted a test panel (after priming) with 3 sprayed coats of semi-gloss (Lowes stuff), sanded lightly with 2000 grit wet to remove dust and such, and then waxed. The result is a nice smooth, military look. The semi-gloss seemed to cover quicker than the high gloss, thus only 3 coats needed. Of course it was a different brand too. I have not been washing the bare fabric, but it's probably a good idea. And I've switched from EkoBond to 3M FastBond Latex Contact Adhesive. Malcolm Morrison www.wienerdogaero.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5(at)comcast.net> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 12:02:59 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Getting ready to paint Charles, I used Kelly Moore over EcoBond and washed the fabric as they describe, using their cleaning solution. My applications were done by rolling the primer coats (KM primer), and using a foam brush for color coats, leaving it with a crossed-stroke brush look. My upcoming project is a Baby Ace, where I'll be doing a similar application, except that I'll wash the fabric with 'house wash' from Home Depot, primer and finish as described by Wiener Dog Aero, sanding and polishing the paint. Gary Boothe Sent from my iPad On Aug 3, 2015, at 8:17 AM, Charles N. Campbell < charlescampbell1924(at)gmail.com > wrote: Steve, I was going to use a foam paint brush. Think I'll use the brush for the primer and use a foam roller for the finish coats. In the Stewart video the painter used a foam brush for the primer and sprayed the finish coats. I can't use a sprayer because I don't have a spray booth. The Weiner Dog videos show using a foam roller. Of course he was going for a very high shine on his surfaces so he used about four different levels of sandpaper -- like 600 grit, then 1000, then 1200, and then 1500. He got a high gloss look which I'm not going for. I want a more 1920's look. I don't know if they even had 1500 grit sandpaper back then. Did you sand your finish? Chuck On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Steven Dortch < steven.d.dortch(at)gmail.com > wrote:
Uh, Chuck, I did not see anyone wash the materiel on the videos I saw, So I did not wash it myself. That does not mean it should not be done but I am not going to worry about it. I think it has to do with oils that are used in the manufacturing process. Here is some free advice, (and worth every Penny) from a guy who did a 20 foot paint job. (It looks great 20 feet away.) The initial Prime is done to push the latex paint through the weave and get a mechanical grip on the fabric. So I thinned it with windshield washer fluid. I also tried thinning with water to get it to "Push" into the weave. Both worked, Washer fluid dries faster. Painting with Latex is so much easier that I will not hesitate to paint another paint scheme when this needs redoing. It is just that easy. I actually had to paint over some decorative markings and repaint them and did so without getting stressed. I had a 2 year old grandson running around. When he got into the paint it was a nonevent. Just wash him up. Are you going to paint with rollers or spray? I could not get it to look good with rollers, but My Harbor Freight HVLP paint gun made it easy to spray. If I did it again I would simply spray and would not sand unless there is a flaw. I just wore a paper mask and safety glasses, old clothes and had a fan blowing gently to keep the hanging mist moving out of the garage. I shared a 1930s garage with my neighbor. There was a chickenwire "wall", so I hung a blue tarp up between my side and his and ran the fan. I think some of his camping stuff now has a slight yellow haze to it. Everything not covered will get a light coat on it if you spray. My fuselage was mostly assembled, and when I was ready to paint it the pollen was pretty bad in San Antonio. So at that point I did make a paint booth with plastic and put fans pushing and sucking. My neighbor was so excited that I was painting a plane in his garage he did not mind. I bought a roll of masking paper at the auto paint shop about 20 inches wide. Nice to know that paint won't go through it. about $16 and I still have a bunch left over. Practice with several types of masking tape and various thinning mixtures. I found that some tapes did not do what they said. Others that were cheaper worked great. One that said it gave a "Sharp edge" allowed the paint to creep under it Anouther made a super sharp line. Sorry I don't remember the brands. Also I saved old masking tape by sticking it to a cardboard box and used it again to tape covers over various items not to be painted. new masking tape was for sharp edges. I used flotrol which is supposed to make the paint lay down and spread out better, but I am not sure it made a difference with the spray rig. Enjoy painting, I did. Blue (or what ever you paint them) Skies, Steve D. On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 8:47 AM, Charles N. Campbell < charlescampbell1924(at)gmail.com > wrote:
OK! I have a question for someone who has painted a Piet with latex house paint. The Stewart system video shows the unpainted surface of the fabric being washed with a soap solution before painting. Of course he was using Stewart system paints. Did any of you clean the fabric with a soap solution before the primer paint was applied? If so, what method did you use. I don't have any of the Stewart soap solution and am wondering what to use -- if any or what to do if soap solution is not used. I would appreciate any help. Chuck " target="_blank"> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List tp:// forums.matronics.com _blank"> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -- Blue Skies, Steve D " target="_blank"> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank"> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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Subject: Re: Getting ready to paint
From: Scott Knowlton <flyingscott_k(at)hotmail.com>
Date: Aug 04, 2015
Malcolm. Thanks for the continued awesome technical research and practicums . You are a great resource for those of us who simply want to benefit from y our trials and errors. Can you provide the product number of the 3M Latex Fa stbond Adhesive? Scott Knowlton Fuselage/tail group/centre section built.. Wing assembly to go.... Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 4, 2015, at 6:18 PM, gliderx5(at)comcast.net wrote: > > You guys might know that I'm a bit of a "Gloss" nut, but I receintly paint ed a test panel (after priming) with 3 sprayed coats of semi-gloss (Lowes st uff), sanded lightly with 2000 grit wet to remove dust and such, and then wa xed. The result is a nice smooth, military look. The semi-gloss seemed to co ver quicker than the high gloss, thus only 3 coats needed. Of course it was a different brand too. > > I have not been washing the bare fabric, but it's probably a good idea. An d I've switched from EkoBond to 3M FastBond Latex Contact Adhesive. > > Malcolm Morrison > www.wienerdogaero.com > > > From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5(at)comcast.net> > To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com > Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 12:02:59 PM > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Getting ready to paint > > Charles, > > I used Kelly Moore over EcoBond and washed the fabric as they describe, us ing their cleaning solution. My applications were done by rolling the primer coats (KM primer), and using a foam brush for color coats, leaving it with a crossed-stroke brush look. > > My upcoming project is a Baby Ace, where I'll be doing a similar applicati on, except that I'll wash the fabric with 'house wash' from Home Depot, prim er and finish as described by Wiener Dog Aero, sanding and polishing the pai nt. > > Gary Boothe > > Sent from my iPad > > On Aug 3, 2015, at 8:17 AM, Charles N. Campbell wrote: > > Steve, I was going to use a foam paint brush. Think I'll use the brush fo r the primer and use a foam roller for the finish coats. In the Stewart vide o the painter used a foam brush for the primer and sprayed the finish coats. I can't use a sprayer because I don't have a spray booth. The Weiner Dog v ideos show using a foam roller. Of course he was going for a very high shin e on his surfaces so he used about four different levels of sandpaper -- lik e 600 grit, then 1000, then 1200, and then 1500. He got a high gloss look w hich I'm not going for. I want a more 1920's look. I don't know if they ev en had 1500 grit sandpaper back then. Did you sand your finish? Chuck > >> On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Steven Dortch wrote: >> Uh, Chuck, I did not see anyone wash the materiel on the videos I saw, So I did not wash it myself. That does not mean it should not be done but I am not going to worry about it. I think it has to do with oils that are used i n the manufacturing process. >> >> Here is some free advice, (and worth every Penny) from a guy who did a 20 foot paint job. (It looks great 20 feet away.) >> >> The initial Prime is done to push the latex paint through the weave and g et a mechanical grip on the fabric. So I thinned it with windshield washer f luid. I also tried thinning with water to get it to "Push" into the weave. B oth worked, Washer fluid dries faster. >> >> Painting with Latex is so much easier that I will not hesitate to paint a nother paint scheme when this needs redoing. It is just that easy. I actuall y had to paint over some decorative markings and repaint them and did so wit hout getting stressed. I had a 2 year old grandson running around. When he g ot into the paint it was a nonevent. Just wash him up. >> >> Are you going to paint with rollers or spray? >> >> I could not get it to look good with rollers, but My Harbor Freight HVLP p aint gun made it easy to spray. If I did it again I would simply spray and w ould not sand unless there is a flaw. >> >> I just wore a paper mask and safety glasses, old clothes and had a fan bl owing gently to keep the hanging mist moving out of the garage. I shared a 1 930s garage with my neighbor. There was a chickenwire "wall", so I hung a b lue tarp up between my side and his and ran the fan. I think some of his cam ping stuff now has a slight yellow haze to it. Everything not covered will g et a light coat on it if you spray. My fuselage was mostly assembled, and wh en I was ready to paint it the pollen was pretty bad in San Antonio. So at t hat point I did make a paint booth with plastic and put fans pushing and suc king. My neighbor was so excited that I was painting a plane in his garage h e did not mind. >> >> I bought a roll of masking paper at the auto paint shop about 20 inches w ide. Nice to know that paint won't go through it. about $16 and I still have a bunch left over. >> >> Practice with several types of masking tape and various thinning mixtures . I found that some tapes did not do what they said. Others that were cheape r worked great. One that said it gave a "Sharp edge" allowed the paint to cr eep under it Anouther made a super sharp line. Sorry I don't remember the br ands. Also I saved old masking tape by sticking it to a cardboard box and us ed it again to tape covers over various items not to be painted. new masking tape was for sharp edges. >> >> I used flotrol which is supposed to make the paint lay down and spread ou t better, but I am not sure it made a difference with the spray rig. >> >> Enjoy painting, I did. >> >> Blue (or what ever you paint them) Skies, >> Steve D. >> >>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 8:47 AM, Charles N. Campbell @gmail.com> wrote: >>> OK! I have a question for someone who has painted a Piet with latex hou se paint. The Stewart system video shows the unpainted surface of the fabri c being washed with a soap solution before painting. Of course he was using Stewart system paints. Did any of you clean the fabric with a soap solutio n before the primer paint was applied? If so, what method did you use. I d on't have any of the Stewart soap solution and am wondering what to use -- i f any or what to do if soap solution is not used. 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Subject: Re: Pictures
From: "tools" <n0kkj(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Aug 04, 2015
What do you want pics of specifically. I might be able to find it and get pics for you as I live locally. Also, there is a bare bones piet in the Piet hangar at pioneer field in the museum I can easily get to. Do you drive to airventure? If so, a quick stop at mccormicks lumber in Madison wi can solve most if not all of your spruce wood needs. Also, if you buy lumber from there, I can get it to chatt tn within a few months for free if that helps. Also, I host a get together near chatt every late February. If you come to that, a field trip to aircraft spruce, a tad over two hours from chatt, can get you lumber and plywood from there sans shipping. Food for thought. Tools, 423 580 1383 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445595#445595 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Heat
From: "Rich's Comcast" <4rcsimmons(at)comcast.net>
Date: Aug 04, 2015
Hey list, I am a stalker , finishing up my 601XL and looking at the Piet for a next man cave project. I noticed an image of some winter flights in a Piet with continental engine with exhaust stacks. If you have stacks, what do you use for heat? Just curious P.S. If your near Murfreesboro/Middle TN and would like to share your Piet, I would love to seat it! Rich Simmons Murfreesboro, Tn Hangared at KMBT 601XL-B 2 months out ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 04, 2015
Subject: Re: Getting ready to paint
From: Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch(at)gmail.com>
Ray, you are shooting blanks. Steve D On Aug 4, 2015 4:33 PM, "Ray Krause" wrote: > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Heat
From: "tools" <n0kkj(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Aug 04, 2015
Mine is based just north of 9a5, Lafayette ga. Welcome to come check it out anytime. The best you're gonna do for heat is good technical wear and a face mask! We flew ours, my son and I, last winter in chickamauga in about five inches of snow and forth degree weather! Tools Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445598#445598 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Jack Philips" <jack(at)bedfordlandings.com>
Subject: Heat
Date: Aug 04, 2015
I don't have short stacks, but two 2-into-1 manifolds, with built in heat muffs. One of the heat muffs is for carb heat, the other for cabin heat. I can cover my front cockpit and running the heater will at least keep my feet warm. The limiting factor for flying is wind on the face. With a wool balaclava covering my face I have flown for nearly 2 hours in 35 degree weather. Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rich's Comcast Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 7:31 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Heat --> < 4rcsimmons(at)comcast.net> Hey list, I am a stalker , finishing up my 601XL and looking at the Piet for a next man cave project. I noticed an image of some winter flights in a Piet with continental engine with exhaust stacks. If you have stacks, what do you use for heat? Just curious P.S. If your near Murfreesboro/Middle TN and would like to share your Piet, I would love to seat it! Rich Simmons Murfreesboro, Tn Hangared at KMBT 601XL-B 2 months out http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 05, 2015
From: gliderx5(at)comcast.net
Subject: Re: Getting ready to paint
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Date: Aug 05, 2015
From: gliderx5(at)comcast.net
Subject: Re: Getting ready to paint
I tried to attach a picture of the glue, but everytime I try to attach a pi cture the email gets posted with no content :-( 3M Fastbond 30NF Contact Adhesive Green, 1 Qt Water-Dispersed High-Strength Contact Adhesive. Has High Coverage, a Long Bonding Range, and good Heat R esistance. Use to Bond Foamed Plastics, Plastic Laminate, Wood, Plywood and Wood Veneer. Non-flammable in the wet state. Model # 30NF Features: Long b onding range with high immediate bond strength Economical high coverage Mee ts MILA24179A, Type I, GREENGUARD Certified General industrial Bonding, adh ering, gluing, joining and attaching Item Dimensions: 2.2" L x 5.2" W x 7.6 " H It comes in white also, but use the green. You can't see where you have glu ed with the white. Malcolm Morrison www.wienerdogaero.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Knowlton" <flyingscott_k(at)hotmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 6:28:56 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Getting ready to paint Malcolm. Thanks for the continued awesome technical research and practicums . You are a great resource for those of us who simply want to benefit from your trials and errors. Can you provide the product number of the 3M Latex Fastbond Adhesive? Scott Knowlton Fuselage/tail group/centre section built.. Wing assembly to go.... Sent from my iPhone On Aug 4, 2015, at 6:18 PM, gliderx5(at)comcast.net wrote: You guys might know that I'm a bit of a "Gloss" nut, but I receintly painte d a test panel (after priming) with 3 sprayed coats of semi-gloss (Lowes st uff), sanded lightly with 2000 grit wet to remove dust and such, and then w axed. The result is a nice smooth, military look. The semi-gloss seemed to cover quicker than the high gloss, thus only 3 coats needed. Of course it w as a different brand too. I have not been washing the bare fabric, but it's probably a good idea. And I've switched from EkoBond to 3M FastBond Latex Contact Adhesive. Malcolm Morrison www.wienerdogaero.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Boothe" < gboothe5(at)comcast.net > Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 12:02:59 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Getting ready to paint Charles, I used Kelly Moore over EcoBond and washed the fabric as they describe, usi ng their cleaning solution. My applications were done by rolling the primer coats (KM primer), and using a foam brush for color coats, leaving it with a crossed-stroke brush look. My upcoming project is a Baby Ace, where I'll be doing a similar applicatio n, except that I'll wash the fabric with 'house wash' from Home Depot, prim er and finish as described by Wiener Dog Aero, sanding and polishing the pa int. Gary Boothe Sent from my iPad On Aug 3, 2015, at 8:17 AM, Charles N. Campbell < charlescampbell1924@gmail .com > wrote:
Steve, I was going to use a foam paint brush. Think I'll use the brush for the primer and use a foam roller for the finish coats. In the Stewart video the painter used a foam brush for the primer and sprayed the finish coats. I can't use a sprayer because I don't have a spray booth. The Weiner Dog v ideos show using a foam roller. Of course he was going for a very high shin e on his surfaces so he used about four different levels of sandpaper -- li ke 600 grit, then 1000, then 1200, and then 1500. He got a high gloss look which I'm not going for. I want a more 1920's look. I don't know if they ev en had 1500 grit sandpaper back then. Did you sand your finish? Chuck On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Steven Dortch < steven.d.dortch(at)gmail.com > wrote:
Uh, Chuck, I did not see anyone wash the materiel on the videos I saw, So I did not wash it myself. That does not mean it should not be done but I am not going to worry about it. I think it has to do with oils that are used i n the manufacturing process. Here is some free advice, (and worth every Penny) from a guy who did a 20 f oot paint job. (It looks great 20 feet away.) The initial Prime is done to push the latex paint through the weave and get a mechanical grip on the fabric. So I thinned it with windshield washer fl uid. I also tried thinning with water to get it to "Push" into the weave. B oth worked, Washer fluid dries faster. Painting with Latex is so much easier that I will not hesitate to paint ano ther paint scheme when this needs redoing. It is just that easy. I actually had to paint over some decorative markings and repaint them and did so wit hout getting stressed. I had a 2 year old grandson running around. When he got into the paint it was a nonevent. Just wash him up. Are you going to paint with rollers or spray? I could not get it to look good with rollers, but My Harbor Freight HVLP pa int gun made it easy to spray. If I did it again I would simply spray and w ould not sand unless there is a flaw. I just wore a paper mask and safety glasses, old clothes and had a fan blow ing gently to keep the hanging mist moving out of the garage. I shared a 19 30s garage with my neighbor. There was a chickenwire "wall", so I hung a bl ue tarp up between my side and his and ran the fan. I think some of his cam ping stuff now has a slight yellow haze to it. Everything not covered will get a light coat on it if you spray. My fuselage was mostly assembled, and when I was ready to paint it the pollen was pretty bad in San Antonio. So a t that point I did make a paint booth with plastic and put fans pushing and sucking. My neighbor was so excited that I was painting a plane in his gar age he did not mind. I bought a roll of masking paper at the auto paint shop about 20 inches wid e. Nice to know that paint won't go through it. about $16 and I still have a bunch left over. Practice with several types of masking tape and various thinning mixtures. I found that some tapes did not do what they said. Others that were cheaper worked great. One that said it gave a "Sharp edge" allowed the paint to cr eep under it Anouther made a super sharp line. Sorry I don't remember the b rands. Also I saved old masking tape by sticking it to a cardboard box and used it again to tape covers over various items not to be painted. new mask ing tape was for sharp edges. I used flotrol which is supposed to make the paint lay down and spread out better, but I am not sure it made a difference with the spray rig. Enjoy painting, I did. Blue (or what ever you paint them) Skies, Steve D. On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 8:47 AM, Charles N. Campbell < charlescampbell1924@g mail.com > wrote:
OK! I have a question for someone who has painted a Piet with latex house p aint. The Stewart system video shows the unpainted surface of the fabric be ing washed with a soap solution before painting. Of course he was using Ste wart system paints. Did any of you clean the fabric with a soap solution be fore the primer paint was applied? If so, what method did you use. I don't have any of the Stewart soap solution and am wondering what to use -- if an y or what to do if soap solution is not used. I would appreciate any help. Chuck " target="_blank"> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List tp:/ / forums.matronics.com _blank"> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -- Blue Skies, Steve D " target="_blank"> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List tp:/ /forums.matronics.com _blank"> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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Subject: Re: Tail Hinge Alternative
From: "Larry M" <marquez(at)att.net>
Date: Aug 05, 2015
What's wrong with a welded hinge per the plans? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445608#445608 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 05, 2015
Subject: Re: Tail Hinge Alternative
From: "Charles N. Campbell" <charlescampbell1924(at)gmail.com>
A lot of us can't weld! On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Larry M wrote: > > What's wrong with a welded hinge per the plans? > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445608#445608 > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pictures
From: "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld(at)lacity.org>
Date: Aug 05, 2015
www.westcoastpiet.com has more pics on it than you can digest. Have fun. -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445612#445612 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Jack Philips" <jack(at)bedfordlandings.com>
Subject: Re: Tail Hinge Alternative
Date: Aug 05, 2015
There=99s an awful lot of welding required to build this airplane. It=99s not hard to learn to weld. Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles N. Campbell Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2015 11:09 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Tail Hinge Alternative A lot of us can't weld! On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Larry M > wrote: > What's wrong with a welded hinge per the plans? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445608#445608 br> enpol-List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List FORUMS - eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com b Site - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 05, 2015
From: Jim Brewer <alpha(at)concordnc.com>
Subject: Re: Pictures
Thanks for the offer, Tools! I might take you up on the offer. Sounds like your February get together would be fun and would break up the winter doldrums! On 08/04/2015 06:32 PM, tools wrote: > > What do you want pics of specifically. I might be able to find it and get pics for you as I live locally. Also, there is a bare bones piet in the Piet hangar at pioneer field in the museum I can easily get to. > > Do you drive to airventure? If so, a quick stop at mccormicks lumber in Madison wi can solve most if not all of your spruce wood needs. Also, if you buy lumber from there, I can get it to chatt tn within a few months for free if that helps. > > Also, I host a get together near chatt every late February. If you come to that, a field trip to aircraft spruce, a tad over two hours from chatt, can get you lumber and plywood from there sans shipping. > > Food for thought. > > Tools, 423 580 1383 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445595#445595 > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pictures
From: "tools" <n0kkj(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Aug 06, 2015
Well, that's kinda the point! Search toolstock here or on owwm.org for more detail. Cheers, Tools Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445643#445643 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Heritage flyin Dayton
From: Douwe Blumberg <douwe(at)douwestudios.com>
Date: Aug 07, 2015
Hey Anybody coming to the heritage fly in at moraine airpark in Dayton? Gonna have great weather. I just arrived, come on down you ohio boys!! Douwe Sent from my iPhone ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Fuselage Width
From: "Harvey Plummer" <plummerharvey(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Aug 08, 2015
Is the 24" width of the fuselage to the outside of the plywood on the sides or the outside of the longerons? -------- Harv, 485PB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445698#445698 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Corvair prop?
From: "GNflyer" <rayeh48(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Aug 08, 2015
I'm now running a 68X 32 after using 66X27 TP prop I got with the project however blades n this one are not quite as wide and I really didn't see much difference other than a little less max RPM Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445711#445711 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: John Hofmann <jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com>
Subject: BPA Newsletter PDF
Date: Aug 09, 2015
While waiting for the mailed version of the newsletter, here is a pdf copy for your use. Thanks to the people who beta tested the new website. I have a few bugs to work out and may tap you again before we launch. Working on the next issue so if you have an Dick Navratil or Billy McCaskill stories, here is your last chance to get them in. Best, -john- ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: BPA Newsletter PDF
From: "bubbleboy" <scott.dawson3(at)bigpond.com>
Date: Aug 10, 2015
Hi John...I think my subscription has now expired but I hadnt received a newsletter in some time. Can we pay online yet? Kind regards Scott Dawson Australia -------- Tamworth, Australia Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper www.scottyspietenpol.com Fuslage now on its undercarriage! About to start wing spars...Corvair engine at Roy's Garage waiting to be modified. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445761#445761 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: BPA Newsletter PDF
From: Tim White <aa5flyer(at)gmail.com>
Date: Aug 10, 2015
John, I don't know how my subscription stands, please let me know. As far as mailing, I am happy with this email version and really don't need the paper version. I go back and forth to Florida in the winter and forget to tell you the new address. Don't bother sending me the paper, just the email version. Tim White Springfield, Ohio On 8/9/2015 10:38 PM, John Hofmann wrote: > While waiting for the mailed version of the newsletter, here is a pdf copy for your use. > > Thanks to the people who beta tested the new website. I have a few bugs to work out and may tap you again before we launch. Working on the next issue so if you have an Dick Navratil or Billy McCaskill stories, here is your last chance to get them in. > > Best, > -john- ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Fuselage Width
From: "bdewenter" <anonymouse(at)woh.rr.com>
Date: Aug 10, 2015
Harvey, Look at the plans very carefully and the answer is - it does not matter. I used a full 24" wide floor panel and used it as my fuselage glue up guide. and took it 24" wide all the way to the pilots seat back. William Wynn (or anyone for that matter) can have an engine mount made for the full 24" or slightly less wide. His welding jig is already adjustable for this scenario. -------- Bob 'Early Builder' Dewenter Dayton OH Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445770#445770 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch(at)gmail.com>
Date: Aug 10, 2015
Subject: Re: Fuselage Width
Anyone know anything about the Bradford sideby side version of the Piet Sky Scout? It is mentioned in the BPA newsletter with an ad that mentions plans. Not planning anything, just interested. -- Blue Skies, Steve D ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch(at)gmail.com>
Date: Aug 10, 2015
Subject: Re: BPA Newsletter PDF
Jim, I would also like to simply get my BPA newsletter by email . I think that would save you a lot of envelope licking. BTW, I enjoyed the Newsletter. Blue Skies, Steve D On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 7:34 AM, Tim White wrote: > > John, > > I don't know how my subscription stands, please let me know. As far as > mailing, I am happy with this email version and really don't need the paper > version. I go back and forth to Florida in the winter and forget to tell > you the new address. Don't bother sending me the paper, just the email > version. > > Tim White > Springfield, Ohio > > > On 8/9/2015 10:38 PM, John Hofmann wrote: > >> While waiting for the mailed version of the newsletter, here is a pdf >> copy for your use. >> >> Thanks to the people who beta tested the new website. I have a few bugs >> to work out and may tap you again before we launch. Working on the next >> issue so if you have an Dick Navratil or Billy McCaskill stories, here is >> your last chance to get them in. >> >> Best, >> -john- >> > > -- Blue Skies, Steve D ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: BPA Newsletter PDF
From: John Hofmann <jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com>
Date: Aug 10, 2015
Hi Tim, Part of the new website will be a pdf archive and an opt out of the paper version. Best, -john- > On Aug 10, 2015, at 7:34 AM, Tim White wrote: > > > John, > > I don't know how my subscription stands, please let me know. As far as mailing, I am happy with this email version and really don't need the paper version. I go back and forth to Florida in the winter and forget to tell you the new address. Don't bother sending me the paper, just the email version. > > Tim White > Springfield, Ohio > > On 8/9/2015 10:38 PM, John Hofmann wrote: >> While waiting for the mailed version of the newsletter, here is a pdf copy for your use. >> >> Thanks to the people who beta tested the new website. I have a few bugs to work out and may tap you again before we launch. Working on the next issue so if you have an Dick Navratil or Billy McCaskill stories, here is your last chance to get them in. >> >> Best, >> -john- > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Fuselage Width
From: "echobravo4" <eab4(at)comcast.net>
Date: Aug 11, 2015
Kyle might know- 517-663-3083 -------- Earl Brown I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I intended to be. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445822#445822 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Fuselage Width
From: "Ryan Mueller" <rmueller23(at)gmail.com>
Date: Aug 11, 2015
You may certainly do what you'd like, but insofar as answering your question, if you reference Drawing No. 1 (the sheet with the various fuselage views), and look at the third view down (Inside Constructional View Of Fuselage), you should see a note at the 22" width measurement at the rear seat back: "All Measurements To Outside Of Plywood" Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445824#445824 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: BPA Newsletter PDF
From: "pjb" <pjb@ornithopter-pilot.com>
Date: Aug 11, 2015
Hello, I've been trying to join the BPA for years ! Every so often, I send an email to the website asking for info on joining and payment method [ I live in Canada] but so far, there has been no reply. Could anyone give me an email address that will reply to me ! I used to have a Pietenpol years ago and am now about to have the final inspection done on my current Piet. Cheers, Patricia Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445829#445829 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 11, 2015
Subject: Re: Fuselage Width
From: "Charles N. Campbell" <charlescampbell1924(at)gmail.com>
Ryan, as many times as I have looked at that drawing since I began construction on my Piet, that is the FIRST time I have read that note. I made all my measurements to the outside of the longerons. So, I guess my fuselage is 1/4-inch wider than it should be. I haven't measured the width of the cabane strut fittings on the fuselage as compared to the fittings on the wing center section. I don't think 1/8 inch on each side would hurt that much. Chuck On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Ryan Mueller wrote: > > > > You may certainly do what you'd like, but insofar as answering your > question, if you reference Drawing No. 1 (the sheet with the various > fuselage views), and look at the third view down (Inside Constructional > View Of Fuselage), you should see a note at the 22" width measurement at > the rear seat back: > > "All Measurements To Outside Of Plywood" > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445824#445824 > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 11, 2015
Subject: Re: BPA Newsletter PDF
From: "Charles N. Campbell" <charlescampbell1924(at)gmail.com>
=8BPatricia, I tried to scan the last page of my latest copy of BPA newsletter which contains the method of joining BPA. If you will give me your address, I will send you a copy of the documentation on how to join. Chuck, charlescampbell1924(at)gmail.com=8B On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 1:57 PM, pjb <pjb@ornithopter-pilot.com> wrote: > > Hello, > > I've been trying to join the BPA for years ! > > Every so often, I send an email to the website asking for info > on joining and payment method [ I live in Canada] but > so far, there has been no reply. > > Could anyone give me an email address that will reply to me ! > > I used to have a Pietenpol years ago and am now about to > have the final inspection done on my current Piet. > > Cheers, > Patricia > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445829#445829 > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Fuselage Width
From: "tools" <n0kkj(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Aug 11, 2015
The plans are a bit like a jeppesen approach plate.... TONS of info in there, easy to miss something. That quarter inch isn't going to matter. If you haven't drilled any of the fittings, when you do, start with undersized holes and step them up to proper size with all the pieces together. Basically cut to fit as you go if that makes sense. It'll keep thing more aligned and make life easier during assembly. Tools Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445836#445836 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: BPA Newsletter PDF
From: "jarheadpilot82" <jarheadpilot82(at)hotmail.com>
Date: Aug 11, 2015
John, Am I reading this correctly - the current issue says "4th Quarter, 2014"? I guess that is why I paid for a 2 year subscription last fall, but have yet to see an issue sent to my home address. I have written you several emails about my subscription but I have not heard from you, so I see no other option but to write you via the forum. Could you please explain to me and to the other subscribers as to what your plan is to get the newsletter back on a regular, more scheduled track? I appreciate it. And in case my previous emails went to your spam folder - 1750 Autumn Park Statham GA 30666-3636 -------- Semper Fi, Terry Hand Athens, GA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445841#445841 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Ray Krause <raykrause(at)frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: BPA Newsletter PDF
Date: Aug 11, 2015
Patricia, Please send us some info on your Pietenpol, we need to know! Thanks, Ray Krause Sent from my iPad > On Aug 11, 2015, at 10:57 AM, pjb <pjb@ornithopter-pilot.com> wrote: > > > Hello, > > I've been trying to join the BPA for years ! > > Every so often, I send an email to the website asking for info > on joining and payment method [ I live in Canada] but > so far, there has been no reply. > > Could anyone give me an email address that will reply to me ! > > I used to have a Pietenpol years ago and am now about to > have the final inspection done on my current Piet. > > Cheers, > Patricia > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445829#445829 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: BPA Newsletter PDF
From: John Hofmann <jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com>
Date: Aug 11, 2015
Yes I am behind. As I have stated in the past, there are 600 plus subscribers and no one sending in any content or articles. Until the last few weeks when Jack Phillips sent me a few articles and Douwe beat the bushes for content, I have received basically nothing. I now have a bit of content and plan to put another issue out in September and every two months until caught up. Everyone will get what they have paid for and most will get a couple of extra issues since I am behind. My records have you being sent three paper issues since you subscribed. If you have not received the first two, I will send them out to you on Monday when I am back in the office. Since the current issue is still making its way through the bulk mail mule train, I need to wait a couple more weeks before I send that one out first class. Best, -john- > On Aug 11, 2015, at 5:03 PM, jarheadpilot82 wrote: > > > John, > > Am I reading this correctly - the current issue says "4th Quarter, 2014"? I guess that is why I paid for a 2 year subscription last fall, but have yet to see an issue sent to my home address. > > I have written you several emails about my subscription but I have not heard from you, so I see no other option but to write you via the forum. Could you please explain to me and to the other subscribers as to what your plan is to get the newsletter back on a regular, more scheduled track? > > I appreciate it. > > And in case my previous emails went to your spam folder - > > 1750 Autumn Park > Statham GA 30666-3636 > > -------- > Semper Fi, > > Terry Hand > Athens, GA > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445841#445841 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 12, 2015
From: Michael Perez <speedbrake(at)sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: BPA Newsletter PDF
Just an FYI to the list: I have noticed that the last couple issues still have my DVD classified ad in them, which is no longer valid.=C2- John has been gracious enough to continue to list my ad and I have notified him to remove the ad going forwa rd. My apologies for any confusion. Thank you again John for all your hard work and dedication. ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton
From: "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld(at)lacity.org>
Date: Aug 13, 2015
Douwe, How was the fly-in? I'll bet it was great. You guys in the east seem to have more grass roots fly-ins than we do on the west coast. I sure wish I could attend those. It's just not close enough for me. Cheers, -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445901#445901 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Ray Krause <raykrause(at)frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton
Date: Aug 13, 2015
Maybe all those nice, green grass strips has something to do with that? Starting on covering the wings. The workshop gave birth to the fuselage last Monday. Making progress. Ray Krause Sent from my iPad > On Aug 13, 2015, at 12:03 PM, AircamperN11MS wr ote: > ty.org> > > Douwe, > > How was the fly-in? I'll bet it was great. You guys in the east seem to h ave more grass roots fly-ins than we do on the west coast. I sure wish I co uld attend those. It's just not close enough for me. > > Cheers, > > -------- > Scott Liefeld > Flying N11MS since March 1972 > Steel Tube > C-85-12 > Wire Wheels > Brodhead in 1996 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445901#445901 > > > > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > > >

      
      
      
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Subject: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton
From: "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld(at)lacity.org>
Date: Aug 13, 2015
Ray, Absolutely outstanding. I can't wait to see it in person. -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445904#445904 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Sortie
From: "TriScout" <apfelcyber(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Aug 13, 2015
..today's Sortie.....short & sweet.. http://youtu.be/42Jm_ayzDqY -------- KLNC A65-8 N2308C Slick 4330's AN Hardware Airframe 755TT W72CK-42 Sensenich Standard Factory GN-1 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445922#445922 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Ray Krause <raykrause(at)frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton
Date: Aug 13, 2015
Thanks, I will make it a point to let you know when it takes to the air. The fellow who bought Bill Rewey's Piet (NX17WR) has it at a private airport just south of Chico Ranchero Airport (CL56). That airport is named "Johnsen". Problem is, I have the new owner's name! Must be "Johnsen" , or something! It is a grass strip, has a fishing lake, amphib/float landing strip, BBQ and picnic area. He has offered it for a Piet flyin and family picnic/fishing day whenever we want. He has a float (amphib?) plane and must be quite the pilot. He's a big almond grower in Chico. Maybe we should plan a Piet flyin there this fall? He said he would supply the BBQ? How could we go wrong? Maybe Piets and older planes? Ray Sent from my iPad > On Aug 13, 2015, at 1:03 PM, AircamperN11MS wrote: > > > Ray, > > Absolutely outstanding. I can't wait to see it in person. > > -------- > Scott Liefeld > Flying N11MS since March 1972 > Steel Tube > C-85-12 > Wire Wheels > Brodhead in 1996 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445904#445904 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton
From: Gary Boothe <gboothe5(at)comcast.net>
Date: Aug 13, 2015
Another Piet Fly-in? Oh...alright....count me IN I guess... Gary Boothe Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 13, 2015, at 10:43 PM, Ray Krause wrote: > > Thanks, I will make it a point to let you know when it takes to the air. The fellow who bought Bill Rewey's Piet (NX17WR) has it at a private airport just south of Chico Ranchero Airport (CL56). That airport is named "Johnsen". Problem is, I have the new owner's name! Must be "Johnsen" , or something! It is a grass strip, has a fishing lake, amphib/float landing strip, BBQ and picnic area. He has offered it for a Piet flyin and family picnic/fishing day whenever we want. He has a float (amphib?) plane and must be quite the pilot. He's a big almond grower in Chico. Maybe we should plan a Piet flyin there this fall? He said he would supply the BBQ? > > How could we go wrong? Maybe Piets and older planes? > > Ray > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Aug 13, 2015, at 1:03 PM, AircamperN11MS wrote: >> >> >> Ray, >> >> Absolutely outstanding. I can't wait to see it in person. >> >> -------- >> Scott Liefeld >> Flying N11MS since March 1972 >> Steel Tube >> C-85-12 >> Wire Wheels >> Brodhead in 1996 >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445904#445904 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douwe(at)douwestudios.com>
Subject: Heritage fly-in
Date: Aug 14, 2015
Hi Scott, Actually, the Dayton fly-in was really nice. It was their first year so they didn't know what to expect. The weekend weather turned out absolutely gorgeous and about sixty planes flew in on Sat. Most flew in around breakfast time and most flew out later aft. My daughter and I camped out Friday and sat night and left crack of dawn Sunday for a beautiful morning flight home. I come from So Cal, so I completely understand how blessed we are around here with all the grass strips etc. However, the WX is MUCH more problematic. This is our third fly-in this year; one I scrubbed because WX, the second we only stayed part of a day and had to leave to beat some storms home, so you have some things going for you out west that we don't. Douwe ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton
From: "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld(at)lacity.org>
Date: Aug 14, 2015
Ray, I have heard through the grapevine that his strip is very short. The person who told me this was concerned that it could be too short for the Rewey Piet to fly from. This has not been confirmed but worth checking out before scheduling a get together there. I live too far away to run up and check it out. Perhaps one of the local guys can do that for us. Definitely worth checking. -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445930#445930 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Heritage fly-in
From: "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld(at)lacity.org>
Date: Aug 14, 2015
Douwe, I find it great to hear about your flying adventures. My daughters and I sent many weekends camping under the Piet wing at fly-ins. Great memories for life. They grow up too fast. What part of CA were you in? I wonder if we have crossed paths before? -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445932#445932 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 14, 2015
From: Jim Boyer <boyerjrb(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton
Hi Ray, What a beautiful Skyscout you have made!!! I really like it. Jim =C2- ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Gary Boothe <gboothe5(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton
Date: Aug 14, 2015
Beautiful, Ray!! Sent from my iPad > On Aug 13, 2015, at 1:56 PM, Ray Krause wrote: > > Maybe all those nice, green grass strips has something to do with that? > > Starting on covering the wings. The workshop gave birth to the fuselage last Monday. Making progress. > > Ray Krause > > > > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Aug 13, 2015, at 12:03 PM, AircamperN11MS wrote: >> >> >> Douwe, >> >> How was the fly-in? I'll bet it was great. You guys in the east seem to have more grass roots fly-ins than we do on the west coast. I sure wish I could attend those. It's just not close enough for me. >> >> Cheers, >> >> -------- >> Scott Liefeld >> Flying N11MS since March 1972 >> Steel Tube >> C-85-12 >> Wire Wheels >> Brodhead in 1996 >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445901#445901 > =================================== > =================================== > =================================== > =================================== > >

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From: Ray Krause <raykrause(at)frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton
Date: Aug 14, 2015
Gary and Jim, Thanks, I got the fabric on the bottom of the left wing, it's all taught, ready to turn it over and do the top side, then stitching...ugh! Ray Sent from my iPad > On Aug 14, 2015, at 7:26 AM, Gary Boothe wrote: > > > Beautiful, Ray!! > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Aug 13, 2015, at 1:56 PM, Ray Krause wrote: >> >> Maybe all those nice, green grass strips has something to do with that? >> >> Starting on covering the wings. The workshop gave birth to the fuselage last Monday. Making progress. >> >> Ray Krause >> >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Aug 13, 2015, at 12:03 PM, AircamperN11MS wrote: >>> >>> >>> Douwe, >>> >>> How was the fly-in? I'll bet it was great. You guys in the east seem to have more grass roots fly-ins than we do on the west coast. I sure wish I could attend those. It's just not close enough for me. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> -------- >>> Scott Liefeld >>> Flying N11MS since March 1972 >>> Steel Tube >>> C-85-12 >>> Wire Wheels >>> Brodhead in 1996 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Read this topic online here: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445901#445901 >> =================================== >> =================================== >> =================================== >> =================================== >> >>

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From: Ray Krause <raykrause(at)frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton
Date: Aug 14, 2015
Scott, It's listed as 2700', longer than Ranchero which is just 2100'. Should be ok, except for those turbine Piets! I had no trouble landing my Cub and Aeronca at Ranchero. Ray Sent from my iPad > On Aug 14, 2015, at 7:02 AM, AircamperN11MS wrote: > > > Ray, > > I have heard through the grapevine that his strip is very short. The person who told me this was concerned that it could be too short for the Rewey Piet to fly from. This has not been confirmed but worth checking out before scheduling a get together there. I live too far away to run up and check it out. Perhaps one of the local guys can do that for us. > > Definitely worth checking. > > -------- > Scott Liefeld > Flying N11MS since March 1972 > Steel Tube > C-85-12 > Wire Wheels > Brodhead in 1996 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445930#445930 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Gary Boothe <gboothe5(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton
Date: Aug 14, 2015
"Stitching is fun...stitching is fun....stitching is fun..." Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 14, 2015, at 8:44 PM, Ray Krause wrote: > > > Gary and Jim, > > Thanks, I got the fabric on the bottom of the left wing, it's all taught, ready to turn it over and do the top side, then stitching...ugh! > > Ray > > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Aug 14, 2015, at 7:26 AM, Gary Boothe wrote: >> >> >> Beautiful, Ray!! >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Aug 13, 2015, at 1:56 PM, Ray Krause wrote: >>> >>> Maybe all those nice, green grass strips has something to do with that? >>> >>> Starting on covering the wings. The workshop gave birth to the fuselage last Monday. Making progress. >>> >>> Ray Krause >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>>> On Aug 13, 2015, at 12:03 PM, AircamperN11MS wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Douwe, >>>> >>>> How was the fly-in? I'll bet it was great. You guys in the east seem to have more grass roots fly-ins than we do on the west coast. I sure wish I could attend those. It's just not close enough for me. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> -------- >>>> Scott Liefeld >>>> Flying N11MS since March 1972 >>>> Steel Tube >>>> C-85-12 >>>> Wire Wheels >>>> Brodhead in 1996 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Read this topic online here: >>>> >>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445901#445901 >>> =================================== >>> =================================== >>> =================================== >>> =================================== >>> >>>

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From: Ray Krause <raykrause(at)frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton
Date: Aug 14, 2015
Got any extra time? Stitching is fun! Ray Sent from my iPad > On Aug 14, 2015, at 7:55 PM, Gary Boothe wrote: > > > "Stitching is fun...stitching is fun....stitching is fun..." > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 14, 2015, at 8:44 PM, Ray Krause wrote: >> >> >> Gary and Jim, >> >> Thanks, I got the fabric on the bottom of the left wing, it's all taught, ready to turn it over and do the top side, then stitching...ugh! >> >> Ray >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Aug 14, 2015, at 7:26 AM, Gary Boothe wrote: >>> >>> >>> Beautiful, Ray!! >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>>> On Aug 13, 2015, at 1:56 PM, Ray Krause wrote: >>>> >>>> Maybe all those nice, green grass strips has something to do with that? >>>> >>>> Starting on covering the wings. The workshop gave birth to the fuselage last Monday. Making progress. >>>> >>>> Ray Krause >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>>> On Aug 13, 2015, at 12:03 PM, AircamperN11MS wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Douwe, >>>>> >>>>> How was the fly-in? I'll bet it was great. You guys in the east seem to have more grass roots fly-ins than we do on the west coast. I sure wish I could attend those. It's just not close enough for me. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> -------- >>>>> Scott Liefeld >>>>> Flying N11MS since March 1972 >>>>> Steel Tube >>>>> C-85-12 >>>>> Wire Wheels >>>>> Brodhead in 1996 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Read this topic online here: >>>>> >>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445901#445901 >>>> =================================== >>>> =================================== >>>> =================================== >>>> =================================== >>>> >>>>

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Subject: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton
From: Michael Groah <dskogrover(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Aug 14, 2015
Stitching is fun.....at first. Then it gets a bit repetitive. By the way Ray your plane is looking great. I'm really excited about it. Mike Groah Sent from my iPad > On Aug 14, 2015, at 7:55 PM, Gary Boothe wrote: > > > "Stitching is fun...stitching is fun....stitching is fun..." > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 14, 2015, at 8:44 PM, Ray Krause wrote: >> >> >> Gary and Jim, >> >> Thanks, I got the fabric on the bottom of the left wing, it's all taught, ready to turn it over and do the top side, then stitching...ugh! >> >> Ray >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Aug 14, 2015, at 7:26 AM, Gary Boothe wrote: >>> >>> >>> Beautiful, Ray!! >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>>> On Aug 13, 2015, at 1:56 PM, Ray Krause wrote: >>>> >>>> Maybe all those nice, green grass strips has something to do with that? >>>> >>>> Starting on covering the wings. The workshop gave birth to the fuselage last Monday. Making progress. >>>> >>>> Ray Krause >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>>> On Aug 13, 2015, at 12:03 PM, AircamperN11MS wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Douwe, >>>>> >>>>> How was the fly-in? I'll bet it was great. You guys in the east seem to have more grass roots fly-ins than we do on the west coast. I sure wish I could attend those. It's just not close enough for me. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> -------- >>>>> Scott Liefeld >>>>> Flying N11MS since March 1972 >>>>> Steel Tube >>>>> C-85-12 >>>>> Wire Wheels >>>>> Brodhead in 1996 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Read this topic online here: >>>>> >>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445901#445901 >>>> =================================== >>>> =================================== >>>> =================================== >>>> =================================== >>>> >>>>

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Date: Aug 15, 2015
Subject: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton
From: "Andre B. Charvet" <bencharvet(at)gmail.com>
We wouldn't want to deprive you of the fun. It really is enjoyable Ben Ray Krause wrote: > >Got any extra time? Stitching is fun! > >Ray > >Sent from my iPad > >> On Aug 14, 2015, at 7:55 PM, Gary Boothe wrote: >> >> >> "Stitching is fun...stitching is fun....stitching is fun..." >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Aug 14, 2015, at 8:44 PM, Ray Krause wrote: >>> >>> >>> Gary and Jim, >>> >>> Thanks, I got the fabric on the bottom of the left wing, it's all taught, ready to turn it over and do the top side, then stitching...ugh! >>> >>> Ray >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>>> On Aug 14, 2015, at 7:26 AM, Gary Boothe wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Beautiful, Ray!! >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>>> On Aug 13, 2015, at 1:56 PM, Ray Krause wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Maybe all those nice, green grass strips has something to do with that? >>>>> >>>>> Starting on covering the wings. The workshop gave birth to the fuselage last Monday. Making progress. >>>>> >>>>> Ray Krause >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>> >>>>>> On Aug 13, 2015, at 12:03 PM, AircamperN11MS wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Douwe, >>>>>> >>>>>> How was the fly-in? I'll bet it was great. You guys in the east seem to have more grass roots fly-ins than we do on the west coast. I sure wish I could attend those. It's just not close enough for me. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> >>>>>> -------- >>>>>> Scott Liefeld >>>>>> Flying N11MS since March 1972 >>>>>> Steel Tube >>>>>> C-85-12 >>>>>> Wire Wheels >>>>>> Brodhead in 1996 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Read this topic online here: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445901#445901 >>>>> =================================== >>>>> =================================== >>>>> =================================== >>>>> =================================== >>>>> >>>>>

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Subject: Re: Mong Sport Biplane for sale on ebay
From: "MyrickPiet" <N762sierra(at)gmail.com>
Date: Aug 15, 2015
Jack: anytime you want to identify an owner go to http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/nnum_inquiry.aspx Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445974#445974 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douwe(at)douwestudios.com>
Subject: So Cal
Date: Aug 15, 2015
Hey Scott, Grew up in L.A. and lived just north of the city in Santa Clarita until 2001; then I ran away to the country. Hung out a lot at Santa Paula but didn't fly back then, just daydreamed. Douwe ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douwe(at)douwestudios.com>
Subject: rib stitching
Date: Aug 15, 2015
I can't way I enjoyed rib stitching but I will say once I got set up and had a system, it wasn't bad at all. You can hit it hard and get it done in a couple of days if you're wired that way. I layed the wing nose down, marked all the holes and burned tiny holes at each spot. Then made up some long straight "needles" from welding rod (or buy them), got the lights nice and bright, turned on some music and stationed a friend on the other side. Then we just passed the needle back and forth to eachother. By looking through the premade holes, you can see into the wing to the needle to the correct opposite hole quite easily. Goes really quickly. Douwe ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch(at)gmail.com>
Date: Aug 15, 2015
Subject: Re: rib stitching
My grandson had the great idea of sending the needle back through backwards rather than trying to hit the hole with a curved tip. The curved tip is only for when you are going to the next set of holes. Try it. it seems backwards but it is faster. I found stitching to be like Zen Yoga (I guess). Set it up in a place that is comfortable. I did it under a nice shade tree. Put on some good music or Prairie home companion and have coffee or cokes available and just relax and stitch. Kind of like cleaning my guns. It can be soothing and calming. (the voices tell me to make sure my guns are clean!) Oh yeah, If the Prairie home companion pretty good joke show is on, don't try to stitch. You won't get anything done from laughing so much. Blue Skies, Steve D. On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 8:58 AM, Douwe Blumberg wrote: > I can=99t way I enjoyed rib stitching but I will say once I got set up and > had a system, it wasn=99t bad at all. You can hit it hard and get it done in > a couple of days if you=99re wired that way. > > > I layed the wing nose down, marked all the holes and burned tiny holes at > each spot. Then made up some long straight =9Cneedles=9D fro m welding rod (or > buy them), got the lights nice and bright, turned on some music and > stationed a friend on the other side. Then we just passed the needle bac k > and forth to eachother. By looking through the premade holes, you can se e > into the wing to the needle to the correct opposite hole quite easily. > Goes really quickly. > > > Douwe > > * > =========== .matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List> =========== =========== om/contribution> =========== > > * > > -- Blue Skies, Steve D ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: BPA Newsletter PDF
From: "pjb" <pjb@ornithopter-pilot.com>
Date: Aug 15, 2015
Chuck, Thankyou very much for your reply, I'll send you an email. Ray, I'll post info in a new thread. Cheers, Patricia Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445984#445984 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch(at)gmail.com>
Date: Aug 15, 2015
Subject: BPA Newsletter
Hey guys, I enjoyed my BPA newsletter. I understand the need for articles. What do we want in the newsletter? Painting? Sources for engines? Discussions on safety? New things you have tried? Instrument panel ideas? IE should I put a full IFR glass panel in my Piet including an autopilot? (that ought to get some discussion.) Radio ideas? Funny stories? trips? Warnings? Training? Hangar organization? Hangar ideas? FAA problems? A discussion on the varieties of Piets, (Scout, Aircamper, Air Camper, Ariel, side by side...) Where should we send these articles? -- Blue Skies, Steve D ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Gary Boothe <gboothe5(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: BPA Newsletter
Date: Aug 15, 2015
Yes. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 15, 2015, at 10:11 AM, Steven Dortch wr ote: > > Hey guys, I enjoyed my BPA newsletter. I understand the need for articles. What do we want in the newsletter? > > Painting? > Sources for engines? > Discussions on safety? > New things you have tried? > Instrument panel ideas? IE should I put a full IFR glass panel in my Piet i ncluding an autopilot? (that ought to get some discussion.) > Radio ideas? > Funny stories? > trips? > Warnings? > Training? > Hangar organization? Hangar ideas? > FAA problems? > A discussion on the varieties of Piets, (Scout, Aircamper, Air Camper, Ari el, side by side...) > > Where should we send these articles? > > > -- > Blue Skies, > Steve D > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: welcome Semih
From: "oldbird" <semihoksay(at)gmail.com>
Date: Aug 15, 2015
I finally (re)started the fuselage construction. Since I have all the empennage components finished, after the fuselage, I will be left with wing construction. I have all the ribs finished, so it should be easy. 90% finished, 90% to go. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445988#445988 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Gary Boothe <gboothe5(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: BPA Newsletter
Date: Aug 15, 2015
Yes. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 15, 2015, at 10:11 AM, Steven Dortch wr ote: > > Hey guys, I enjoyed my BPA newsletter. I understand the need for articles. What do we want in the newsletter? > > Painting? > Sources for engines? > Discussions on safety? > New things you have tried? > Instrument panel ideas? IE should I put a full IFR glass panel in my Piet i ncluding an autopilot? (that ought to get some discussion.) > Radio ideas? > Funny stories? > trips? > Warnings? > Training? > Hangar organization? Hangar ideas? > FAA problems? > A discussion on the varieties of Piets, (Scout, Aircamper, Air Camper, Ari el, side by side...) > > Where should we send these articles? > > > -- > Blue Skies, > Steve D > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 15, 2015
Subject: Re: BPA Newsletter
From: Gerrit-Jan Kaal <gjhkaal(at)gmail.com>
All of the above ;-) On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 6:11 PM, Steven Dortch wrote: > Hey guys, I enjoyed my BPA newsletter. I understand the need for articles. > What do we want in the newsletter? > > Painting? > Sources for engines? > Discussions on safety? > New things you have tried? > Instrument panel ideas? IE should I put a full IFR glass panel in my Piet > including an autopilot? (that ought to get some discussion.) > Radio ideas? > Funny stories? > trips? > Warnings? > Training? > Hangar organization? Hangar ideas? > FAA problems? > A discussion on the varieties of Piets, (Scout, Aircamper, Air Camper, > Ariel, side by side...) > > Where should we send these articles? > > > -- > Blue Skies, > Steve D > > * > > > * > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch(at)gmail.com>
Date: Aug 15, 2015
Subject: Re: BPA Newsletter
OK pick one and start writing. I am fiddling with a Pietenpol accidents and safety article. Yes it is a rehash/rewrite of our previous discussions, but it will be put together in one article. Blue Skies, On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Gerrit-Jan Kaal wrote: > All of the above ;-) > > On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 6:11 PM, Steven Dortch > wrote: > >> Hey guys, I enjoyed my BPA newsletter. I understand the need for >> articles. What do we want in the newsletter? >> >> Painting? >> Sources for engines? >> Discussions on safety? >> New things you have tried? >> Instrument panel ideas? IE should I put a full IFR glass panel in my Piet >> including an autopilot? (that ought to get some discussion.) >> Radio ideas? >> Funny stories? >> trips? >> Warnings? >> Training? >> Hangar organization? Hangar ideas? >> FAA problems? >> A discussion on the varieties of Piets, (Scout, Aircamper, Air Camper, >> Ariel, side by side...) >> >> Where should we send these articles? >> >> >> -- >> Blue Skies, >> Steve D >> >> * >> >> " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List >> tp://forums.matronics.com <http://forums.matronics.com> >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> >> * >> >> > * > > > * > > -- Blue Skies, Steve D ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton
From: "taildrags" <taildrags(at)hotmail.com>
Date: Aug 15, 2015
Most of the flying I've done with Scout has been out of San Geronimo Airpark, which is 3000'x40', paved, but I could easily operate off of half of it. In fact, I most enjoyed operating off of the grass area to one side of the paved runway and it was no more than half the length of the paved runway and had trees and brush along the approach end. 2700' should be no problem at all. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446008#446008 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: John Hofmann <jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com>
Subject: Re: BPA Newsletter
Date: Aug 15, 2015
Send any articles to bpa(at)pietenpols.org Best, -john- > On Aug 15, 2015, at 11:11 AM, Steven Dortch wrote: > > Hey guys, I enjoyed my BPA newsletter. I understand the need for articles. What do we want in the newsletter? > > Painting? > Sources for engines? > Discussions on safety? > New things you have tried? > Instrument panel ideas? IE should I put a full IFR glass panel in my Piet including an autopilot? (that ought to get some discussion.) > Radio ideas? > Funny stories? > trips? > Warnings? > Training? > Hangar organization? Hangar ideas? > FAA problems? > A discussion on the varieties of Piets, (Scout, Aircamper, Air Camper, Ariel, side by side...) > > Where should we send these articles? > > > -- > Blue Skies, > Steve D > > <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List> <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Ray Krause <raykrause(at)frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton
Date: Aug 15, 2015
Oscar, Scott, Gary, etc, I will get in contact with Cliff Johnsen and see if his offer is still open. Would be fun to fly there, maybe for all the Piets in Ca and Or? I will try to go see Cliff this fall, when almond harvest over. Maybe this fall, or in the Spring for a gathering? Ray Krause PS: I think he said he had the engine overhauled on Bill's plane and some other work Sent from my iPad > On Aug 15, 2015, at 5:20 PM, taildrags wrote: > > > Most of the flying I've done with Scout has been out of San Geronimo Airpark, which is 3000'x40', paved, but I could easily operate off of half of it. In fact, I most enjoyed operating off of the grass area to one side of the paved runway and it was no more than half the length of the paved runway and had trees and brush along the approach end. 2700' should be no problem at all. > > -------- > Oscar Zuniga > Medford, OR > Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" > A75 power > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446008#446008 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Ray Krause <raykrause(at)frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: rib stitching
Date: Aug 15, 2015
Steve, Douwe, Gary, I'm listening to the Prairie Home Companion as I write this! Sounds like a g ood idea. Douwe also had some good suggestions. I will follow them all and s tart stitching in a few days. Gary promised I could get one wing done in 8 h ours! The stop watch will be running! I finished covering the top of the wing today. Will shrink it tomorrow and s tart installing the re-Inforcing tapes. But my wife says we have to go to a p erformance tomorrow afternoon, damn! Thanks guys, Ray Krause Sent from my iPad > On Aug 15, 2015, at 7:30 AM, Steven Dortch wro te: > > My grandson had the great idea of sending the needle back through backward s rather than trying to hit the hole with a curved tip. The curved tip is on ly for when you are going to the next set of holes. > > Try it. it seems backwards but it is faster. > > I found stitching to be like Zen Yoga (I guess). Set it up in a place that is comfortable. I did it under a nice shade tree. Put on some good music o r Prairie home companion and have coffee or cokes available and just relax a nd stitch. > > Kind of like cleaning my guns. It can be soothing and calming. (the voices tell me to make sure my guns are clean!) > > Oh yeah, If the Prairie home companion pretty good joke show is on, don't t ry to stitch. You won't get anything done from laughing so much. > > Blue Skies, > Steve D. > >> On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 8:58 AM, Douwe Blumberg w rote: >> I can=99t way I enjoyed rib stitching but I will say once I got set up and had a system, it wasn=99t bad at all. You can hit it hard and get it done in a couple of days if you=99re wired that way. >> >> >> >> I layed the wing nose down, marked all the holes and burned tiny holes at each spot. Then made up some long straight =9Cneedles=9D from w elding rod (or buy them), got the lights nice and bright, turned on some mus ic and stationed a friend on the other side. Then we just passed the needle back and forth to eachother. By looking through the premade holes, you can see into the wing to the needle to the correct opposite hole quite easily. Goes really quickly. >> >> >> >> Douwe >> >> >> >> " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List >> tp://forums.matronics.com >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> > > > > -- > Blue Skies, > Steve D > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Ray Krause <raykrause(at)frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton
Date: Aug 15, 2015
I've stitched all the control surfaces, so I know how enjoyable it is! Guess I will just suffer through it. Ray Sent from my iPad > On Aug 15, 2015, at 5:33 AM, Andre B. Charvet wrote: > > > We wouldn't want to deprive you of the fun. It really is enjoyable > Ben > > Ray Krause wrote: >> >> Got any extra time? Stitching is fun! >> >> Ray >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Aug 14, 2015, at 7:55 PM, Gary Boothe wrote: >>> >>> >>> "Stitching is fun...stitching is fun....stitching is fun..." >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Aug 14, 2015, at 8:44 PM, Ray Krause wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Gary and Jim, >>>> >>>> Thanks, I got the fabric on the bottom of the left wing, it's all taught, ready to turn it over and do the top side, then stitching...ugh! >>>> >>>> Ray >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>>> On Aug 14, 2015, at 7:26 AM, Gary Boothe wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Beautiful, Ray!! >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>> >>>>>> On Aug 13, 2015, at 1:56 PM, Ray Krause wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Maybe all those nice, green grass strips has something to do with that? >>>>>> >>>>>> Starting on covering the wings. The workshop gave birth to the fuselage last Monday. Making progress. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ray Krause >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Aug 13, 2015, at 12:03 PM, AircamperN11MS wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Douwe, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How was the fly-in? I'll bet it was great. You guys in the east seem to have more grass roots fly-ins than we do on the west coast. I sure wish I could attend those. It's just not close enough for me. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -------- >>>>>>> Scott Liefeld >>>>>>> Flying N11MS since March 1972 >>>>>>> Steel Tube >>>>>>> C-85-12 >>>>>>> Wire Wheels >>>>>>> Brodhead in 1996 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Read this topic online here: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445901#445901 >>>>>> =================================== >>>>>> =================================== >>>>>> =================================== >>>>>> =================================== >>>>>> >>>>>>

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Subject: Re: So Cal
From: "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld(at)lacity.org>
Date: Aug 16, 2015
Douwe, Then you should where Quartz Hill is. That's where I live. I keep the plane at Fox Field in Lancaster. I just flew down to Santa Paula two weeks ago. I love that airport. Great history there. My daughter, son in law and two grand kids live in Santa Clarita. If you ever make it back here, look me up. I would certainly like to meet you in person. It's a small world, Cheers, -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446038#446038 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton
From: "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld(at)lacity.org>
Date: Aug 16, 2015
Ray, I guess I got some bad information. 2700' is three times our need. Without brakes and landing on asphalt I need 700' to get stopped. Take offs??? I only need a 100' or so. I say we need to pay him a visit. -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446039#446039 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton
From: "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld(at)lacity.org>
Date: Aug 16, 2015
The runway at home is 150' long and 7,000' wide. Really. :) -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446040#446040 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: rib stitching
From: "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld(at)lacity.org>
Date: Aug 16, 2015
Ray, It sounds to me like your wife just signed up to help you do some stitching. ;) -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446041#446041 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 16, 2015
From: Jim Boyer <boyerjrb(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton
Hi Gary and Ray; What rib stitching knot do you use? I used Staggerwing knot on tail surface s. Ray Marv and I will be rib stitching my first wing tomorrow. Good luck Ray; PS did you space all knots 2 1/2 inches or 2 inches within p rop blast? Thanks, Jim =C2- ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton
From: Gary Boothe <gboothe5(at)comcast.net>
Date: Aug 16, 2015
Modified Seine Knot, here. Prop wash areas get 2 1/2" spacing. Good luck tom orrow! Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 16, 2015, at 4:12 PM, Jim Boyer wrote: > > Hi Gary and Ray; > What rib stitching knot do you use? I used Staggerwing knot on tail surfac es. Ray Marv and I will be rib stitching my first wing tomorrow. > Good luck Ray; PS did you space all knots 2 1/2 inches or 2 inches within p rop blast? > Thanks, > Jim > > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Ray Krause <raykrause(at)frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton
Date: Aug 16, 2015
I used the Modified Sein knot because the demo video is so pleasing to watch ! I could watch the demo all day long! I'm sure the demonstrator wants a rid e in my plane when it is done. Hmmm, but it is only a one holer. Maybe it c ould be figured out! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y-oU1ikcAA Ray Sent from my iPad > On Aug 16, 2015, at 4:12 PM, Jim Boyer wrote: > > Hi Gary and Ray; > What rib stitching knot do you use? I used Staggerwing knot on tail surfac es. Ray Marv and I will be rib stitching my first wing tomorrow. > Good luck Ray; PS did you space all knots 2 1/2 inches or 2 inches within p rop blast? > Thanks, > Jim > > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Ray Krause <raykrause(at)frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton
Date: Aug 16, 2015
So, did you do 2.5" on everything? Ray Sent from my iPad > On Aug 16, 2015, at 4:24 PM, Gary Boothe wrote: > > Modified Seine Knot, here. Prop wash areas get 2 1/2" spacing. Good luck t omorrow! > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 16, 2015, at 4:12 PM, Jim Boyer wrote: >> >> Hi Gary and Ray; >> What rib stitching knot do you use? I used Staggerwing knot on tail surfa ces. Ray Marv and I will be rib stitching my first wing tomorrow. >> Good luck Ray; PS did you space all knots 2 1/2 inches or 2 inches within prop blast? >> Thanks, >> Jim > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Ray Krause <raykrause(at)frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton
Date: Aug 16, 2015
I will contact him as soon as almond and walnut harvests are done. I will keep you informed. I studied the Modified Seine Knot video and it was pretty easy to understand. Yes, my wife might end up helping, if not my grandson! Be sure to check out the video! Ray https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y-oU1ikcAA Sent from my iPad > On Aug 16, 2015, at 2:49 PM, AircamperN11MS wrote: > > > Ray, > > I guess I got some bad information. 2700' is three times our need. Without brakes and landing on asphalt I need 700' to get stopped. Take offs??? I only need a 100' or so. > I say we need to pay him a visit. > > -------- > Scott Liefeld > Flying N11MS since March 1972 > Steel Tube > C-85-12 > Wire Wheels > Brodhead in 1996 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446039#446039 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Ray Krause <raykrause(at)frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton
Date: Aug 16, 2015
When I was learning to fly, my old Marine instructor took me to Chico Municipal airport KCIC which was then just and "almost abandoned" airport. It seemed like it was a mile long and .5 miles wide. On windy days he had me land the Aeronca from every which direction to practice cross wind landings, downwind, etc. landing back at Ranchero was then pretty simple! Ray Sent from my iPad > On Aug 16, 2015, at 2:51 PM, AircamperN11MS wrote: > > > The runway at home is 150' long and 7,000' wide. Really. :) > > -------- > Scott Liefeld > Flying N11MS since March 1972 > Steel Tube > C-85-12 > Wire Wheels > Brodhead in 1996 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446040#446040 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 16, 2015
Subject: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton
From: "Charles N. Campbell" <charlescampbell1924(at)gmail.com>
I believe the rule is 3-1/2 inches for airplanes of our airspeed. It looks better if you just halve that figure to 1-3/4 inches in the prop blast area (plus one rib). Chuck On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 7:12 PM, Jim Boyer wrote: > Hi Gary and Ray; > What rib stitching knot do you use? I used Staggerwing knot on tail > surfaces. Ray Marv and I will be rib stitching my first wing tomorrow. > Good luck Ray; PS did you space all knots 2 1/2 inches or 2 inches within > prop blast? > Thanks, > Jim > > > * > > > * > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Ray Krause <raykrause(at)frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton
Date: Aug 16, 2015
Chuck, Any rules on where the prop blast is? Farther out on the left wing (how many ribs)? How far out on the right? I just did 2" on all the control surface s. Maybe overkill, but the runs are so short. Ray Krause Sent from my iPad > On Aug 16, 2015, at 4:56 PM, Charles N. Campbell wrote: > > I believe the rule is 3-1/2 inches for airplanes of our airspeed. It look s better if you just halve that figure to 1-3/4 inches in the prop blast are a (plus one rib). Chuck > >> On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 7:12 PM, Jim Boyer wrote: >> Hi Gary and Ray; >> What rib stitching knot do you use? I used Staggerwing knot on tail surfa ces. Ray Marv and I will be rib stitching my first wing tomorrow. >> Good luck Ray; PS did you space all knots 2 1/2 inches or 2 inches within prop blast? >> Thanks, >> Jim >> >> >> >> 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> > > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Gary Boothe <gboothe5(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton
Date: Aug 16, 2015
No, just a couple ribs. 3 1/2" everywhere else... Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 16, 2015, at 4:42 PM, Ray Krause wrote: > > So, did you do 2.5" on everything? > > Ray > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Aug 16, 2015, at 4:24 PM, Gary Boothe wrote: >> >> Modified Seine Knot, here. Prop wash areas get 2 1/2" spacing. Good luck t omorrow! >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Aug 16, 2015, at 4:12 PM, Jim Boyer wrote: >>> >>> Hi Gary and Ray; >>> What rib stitching knot do you use? I used Staggerwing knot on tail surf aces. Ray Marv and I will be rib stitching my first wing tomorrow. >>> Good luck Ray; PS did you space all knots 2 1/2 inches or 2 inches withi n prop blast? >>> Thanks, >>> Jim > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Ray Krause <raykrause(at)frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton
Date: Aug 16, 2015
That sounds good. 3.5" saves a lot of stitches. Thanks, Ray Sent from my iPad > On Aug 16, 2015, at 5:28 PM, Gary Boothe wrote: > > No, just a couple ribs. 3 1/2" everywhere else... > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 16, 2015, at 4:42 PM, Ray Krause wrote : >> >> So, did you do 2.5" on everything? >> >> Ray >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Aug 16, 2015, at 4:24 PM, Gary Boothe wrote: >>> >>> Modified Seine Knot, here. Prop wash areas get 2 1/2" spacing. Good luck tomorrow! >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Aug 16, 2015, at 4:12 PM, Jim Boyer wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Gary and Ray; >>>> What rib stitching knot do you use? I used Staggerwing knot on tail sur faces. Ray Marv and I will be rib stitching my first wing tomorrow. >>>> Good luck Ray; PS did you space all knots 2 1/2 inches or 2 inches with in prop blast? >>>> Thanks, >>>> Jim >> >> >> D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> npol-List"">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List >> D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> //forums.matronics.com >> D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> ot;">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douwe(at)douwestudios.com>
Subject: Fox Field
Date: Aug 17, 2015
Sounds good Scott! Always wondered what Fox field was out there in the desert. You drive past my ex ranch all the time, just off the Sand Cyn exit on the wash there. D ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Jack" <jack(at)textors.com>
Subject: test, let me know if this comes through
Date: Aug 17, 2015
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From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5(at)comcast.net>
Subject: test, let me know if this comes through
Date: Aug 17, 2015
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Date: Aug 17, 2015
From: goffelectric(at)comcast.net
Subject: covering
Anyone that has left the bottom of their fuselage flat, did you put the bol ts in for things like rudder pedals or landing gear then cover over the bol ts? Or did you cover the flat bottom then put those bolts in through the fa bric? =C2- Thanks, Keith Goff ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: test, let me know if this comes through
From: Jack <jack(at)textors.com>
Date: Aug 17, 2015
Oh now I understand Gary! Sent from my iPad Jack Textor > On Aug 17, 2015, at 10:26 AM, "Gary Boothe" wrote: > > The way my memory works, I could use a daily reminder, tooof that and other things! > > Gary Boothe > NX308MB > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li st-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack > Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 8:11 AM > To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: test, let me know if this comes through > > I=99m getting this message daily > > Jack Textor > West Des Moines, IA > > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li st-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of THOMAS.233327 > Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 6:58 PM > To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: test, let me know if this comes through > > Dowe > It came through just fine for me, and I'm just a lurker! > Tom Hale > Building a Sonex/AeroVee > From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douwe(at)douwestudios.com> > To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com > Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 5:02:58 AM > Subject: Pietenpol-List: test, let me know if this comes through > > Would someone let me know if this message shows up? > > I posted a few yesterday but don=99t see them on the list this morni ng, wonder if something=99s wrong. > > Thanks > > Douwe > > > " target="_blank" data-mce-href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pi etenpol-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > ta-mce-href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > _blank" data-mce-href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www .matronics.com/contribution > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > > http://forums.matronics.com > > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > 07/21/15 > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > http://forums.matronics.com > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Jack <fastnaught(at)windstream.net>
Subject: Re: covering
Date: Aug 17, 2015
Keith, First, how are you. Haven't talk to you in a while. I put a keel on the bottom of my fuselage which brought the covering out to n ot interfere with anything on the bottom. I'll take some pics and send them t o you. Jack Sent from my iPad > On Aug 17, 2015, at 12:27 PM, goffelectric(at)comcast.net wrote: > > Anyone that has left the bottom of their fuselage flat, did you put the bo lts in for things like rudder pedals or landing gear then cover over the bol ts? Or did you cover the flat bottom then put those bolts in through the fab ric? > > Thanks, > Keith Goff > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 17, 2015
From: goffelectric(at)comcast.net
Subject: Re: covering
Jack, =C2- I'm good and I hope you are as well. I hope your fight testing is going smo othly, I'm looking forward to seeing your plane at Twin Lakes. Thanks for y our input. =C2- Keith Goff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack" <fastnaught(at)windstream.net> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 1:13:43 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: covering Keith, First, how are you. Haven't talk to you in a while. I put a keel on the bottom of my fuselage which brought the covering out to not interfere with anything on the bottom. I'll take some pics and send th em to you. Jack Sent from my iPad On Aug 17, 2015, at 12:27 PM, goffelectric(at)comcast.net wrote: Anyone that has left the bottom of their fuselage flat, did you put the bol ts in for things like rudder pedals or landing gear then cover over the bol ts? Or did you cover the flat bottom then put those bolts in through the fa bric? =C2- Thanks, Keith Goff 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: covering
From: Scott Knowlton <flyingscott_k(at)hotmail.com>
Date: Aug 17, 2015
Jack, can you share the keel photo with the group? Thanks. Scott Knowlton. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 17, 2015, at 1:16 PM, "Jack" wrote: > > Keith, > First, how are you. Haven't talk to you in a while. > I put a keel on the bottom of my fuselage which brought the covering out t o not interfere with anything on the bottom. I'll take some pics and send th em to you. > Jack > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Aug 17, 2015, at 12:27 PM, goffelectric(at)comcast.net wrote: >> >> Anyone that has left the bottom of their fuselage flat, did you put the b olts in for things like rudder pedals or landing gear then cover over the bo lts? Or did you cover the flat bottom then put those bolts in through the fa bric? >> >> Thanks, >> Keith Goff > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: covering
From: Michael Groah <dskogrover(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Aug 17, 2015
I left mine flat. I covered and then stuck the bolts through after. This g ives access to the nuts for maintenance and such. Mike Groah Sent from my iPad > On Aug 17, 2015, at 9:27 AM, goffelectric(at)comcast.net wrote: > > Anyone that has left the bottom of their fuselage flat, did you put the bo lts in for things like rudder pedals or landing gear then cover over the bol ts? Or did you cover the flat bottom then put those bolts in through the fab ric? > > Thanks, > Keith Goff > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch(at)gmail.com>
Date: Aug 17, 2015
Subject: Re: covering
Keith, consider adding a large belly access panel on the rear fuselage about 1/2 way back from the seat back to the tailwheel. The cables for the rear wheel come through this hole. It is basically a hole in the fabrick Simply framed in with wood thick enough to run screws into. NO FRAME IS TAKEN OUT. Two pieces of frame cross the open area, one directly across the other diagonal. I can basically stick my head in one hole and my arm in another. Makes access to the rear much easier. I covered it with very thin aluminium flashing from the aviation department at Lowes. This flashing came painted white and in a roll about 20 yards long and 24 inches wide. It will cut with sturdy scissors or I used a sharp knife and a straight edge. It creases easily. It was cheap enough that I used it to practice with and make the first bad template and then made the second that I used. I covered the. Poor photos attached. Please ignore the temporary pulley. It was replaced with a fairlead. Blue Skies, Steve D On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Scott Knowlton wrote: > Jack, can you share the keel photo with the group? > > Thanks. > > Scott Knowlton. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 17, 2015, at 1:16 PM, "Jack" wrote: > > Keith, > First, how are you. Haven't talk to you in a while. > I put a keel on the bottom of my fuselage which brought the covering out > to not interfere with anything on the bottom. I'll take some pics and send > them to you. > Jack > > Sent from my iPad > > On Aug 17, 2015, at 12:27 PM, goffelectric(at)comcast.net wrote: > > Anyone that has left the bottom of their fuselage flat, did you put the > bolts in for things like rudder pedals or landing gear then cover over the > bolts? Or did you cover the flat bottom then put those bolts in through the > fabric? > > Thanks, > Keith Goff > > > * > > > * > > -- Blue Skies, Steve D ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: covering
From: John Fastnaught <fastnaught(at)windstream.net>
Date: Aug 17, 2015
Been a rough ride so far. About 10 hours flying with several problems. I sho uld have it running again today and hopefully fixed. We'll see. Sometime I'l l fill you in. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 17, 2015, at 1:26 PM, goffelectric(at)comcast.net wrote: > > Jack, > > I'm good and I hope you are as well. I hope your fight testing is going sm oothly, I'm looking forward to seeing your plane at Twin Lakes. Thanks for y our input. > > Keith Goff > > From: "Jack" <fastnaught(at)windstream.net> > To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com > Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 1:13:43 PM > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: covering > > Keith, > First, how are you. Haven't talk to you in a while. > I put a keel on the bottom of my fuselage which brought the covering out t o not interfere with anything on the bottom. I'll take some pics and send th em to you. > Jack > > Sent from my iPad > > On Aug 17, 2015, at 12:27 PM, goffelectric(at)comcast.net wrote: > > Anyone that has left the bottom of their fuselage flat, did you put the bo lts in for things like rudder pedals or landing gear then cover over the bol ts? Or did you cover the flat bottom then put those bolts in through the fab ric? > > Thanks, > Keith Goff > > > > > > > > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douwe(at)douwestudios.com>
Subject: flight planning kneeboard charts
Date: Aug 17, 2015
Hey, A long time ago someone here told me about a website where you could chart your cross country flight and then print it in small kneeboard sized sections with your route marked on it. I used it, it was great but can't remember it now. Does anyone know this site?? Thanks Douwe ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 17, 2015
Subject: Re: flight planning kneeboard charts
From: Marcus Zechini <marcus.zechini(at)gmail.com>
AOPA FlyQ, I believe, allows this On Aug 17, 2015 6:54 PM, "Douwe Blumberg" wrote: > Hey, > > > A long time ago someone here told me about a website where you could char t > your cross country flight and then print it in small kneeboard sized > sections with your route marked on it. I used it, it was great but can =99t > remember it now > > > Does anyone know this site?? > > > Thanks > > > Douwe > > * > =========== .matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List> =========== =========== om/contribution> =========== > > * > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 17, 2015
Subject: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton
From: "Charles N. Campbell" <charlescampbell1924(at)gmail.com>
OK. Measure 1/2 the length of the prop. Use this figure from the center line of the center section and measure out that length on the wing. Go one more rib for the 1/2 spacing. Is that confusing? Chuck On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 8:19 PM, Ray Krause wrote: > Chuck, > > Any rules on where the prop blast is? Farther out on the left wing (how > many ribs)? How far out on the right? I just did 2" on all the control > surfaces. Maybe overkill, but the runs are so short. > > Ray Krause > > > Sent from my iPad > > On Aug 16, 2015, at 4:56 PM, Charles N. Campbell < > charlescampbell1924(at)gmail.com> wrote: > > I believe the rule is 3-1/2 inches for airplanes of our airspeed. It > looks better if you just halve that figure to 1-3/4 inches in the prop > blast area (plus one rib). Chuck > > On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 7:12 PM, Jim Boyer wrote: > >> Hi Gary and Ray; >> What rib stitching knot do you use? I used Staggerwing knot on tail >> surfaces. Ray Marv and I will be rib stitching my first wing tomorrow. >> Good luck Ray; PS did you space all knots 2 1/2 inches or 2 inches within >> prop blast? >> Thanks, >> Jim >> >> >> * >> >> 3D============================================ >> 3D============================================ >> 3D============================================ >> 3D============================================ >> >> * >> >> > * > > D============================================ > npol-List"">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > D============================================ > //forums.matronics.com <http://forums.matronics.com> > D============================================ > ot;">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > D============================================ > > * > > * > > > * > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 18, 2015
From: goffelectric(at)comcast.net
Subject: Re: covering
That's a great idea, thanks! =C2- Keith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Dortch" <steven.d.dortch(at)gmail.com> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 3:50:02 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: covering Keith, consider adding a=C2-large belly access panel on the rear fuselage about 1/2 way back from the seat back to the tailwheel.=C2- The cables f or the rear wheel come through this hole. It is basically a hole in the fab rick=C2-Simply=C2-framed in with wood thick enough to run screws into. NO FRAME IS TAKEN OUT. Two=C2-pieces of frame cross the open area, one di rectly across the other diagonal.=C2-=C2-=C2-I can basically stick my head in one hole and my=C2-arm in another. Makes access to the rear =C2 -much easier. I covered it with very thin aluminium flashing from the avi ation department at Lowes. This flashing came painted white and in a roll a bout 20 yards long and 24 inches wide. It will cut with sturdy scissors or I used a sharp knife and a straight edge. It creases easily. It was cheap e nough that I used it to practice with and make the first bad template and t hen made the second that I used. I covered the. =C2- Poor photos attached. Please ignore the temporary pulley. It was replaced w ith a fairlead. =C2- Blue Skies, Steve D=C2- On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Scott Knowlton < flyingscott_k(at)hotmail.com > wrote: Jack, can you share the keel photo with the group? =C2- Thanks.=C2- Scott Knowlton.=C2- Sent from my iPhone On Aug 17, 2015, at 1:16 PM, "Jack" < fastnaught(at)windstream.net > wrote:
Keith, First, how are you. Haven't talk to you in a while. I put a keel on the bottom of my fuselage which brought the covering out to not interfere with anything on the bottom. I'll take some pics and send th em to you. Jack Sent from my iPad On Aug 17, 2015, at 12:27 PM, goffelectric(at)comcast.net wrote:
Anyone that has left the bottom of their fuselage flat, did you put the bol ts in for things like rudder pedals or landing gear then cover over the bol ts? Or did you cover the flat bottom then put those bolts in through the fa bric? =C2- Thanks, Keith Goff 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D
-- Blue Skies, Steve D ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Jack Philips" <jack(at)bedfordlandings.com>
Subject: flight planning kneeboard charts
Date: Aug 17, 2015
It was Aeroplanner, which used to be free to EAA members. Unfortunately they stopped offering it as a free service and last month they went out of business altogether Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Douwe Blumberg Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 6:55 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: flight planning kneeboard charts Hey, A long time ago someone here told me about a website where you could chart your cross country flight and then print it in small kneeboard sized sections with your route marked on it. I used it, it was great but can't remember it now. Does anyone know this site?? Thanks Douwe ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Fastnaught John <fastnaught(at)windstream.net>
Subject: Re: covering
Date: Aug 17, 2015
Keith and other Pieters, Here are some pics of the keel on the =9CBabe.=9D > On Aug 17, 2015, at 8:58 PM, goffelectric(at)comcast.net wrote: > > That's a great idea, thanks! > > Keith > > From: "Steven Dortch" <steven.d.dortch(at)gmail.com> > To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com > Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 3:50:02 PM > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: covering > > Keith, consider adding a large belly access panel on the rear fuselage about 1/2 way back from the seat back to the tailwheel. The cables for the rear wheel come through this hole. It is basically a hole in the fabrick Simply framed in with wood thick enough to run screws into. NO FRAME IS TAKEN OUT. Two pieces of frame cross the open area, one directly across the other diagonal. I can basically stick my head in one hole and my arm in another. Makes access to the rear much easier. I covered it with very thin aluminium flashing from the aviation department at Lowes. This flashing came painted white and in a roll about 20 yards long and 24 inches wide. It will cut with sturdy scissors or I used a sharp knife and a straight edge. It creases easily. It was cheap enough that I used it to practice with and make the first bad template and then made the second that I used. I covered the. > > Poor photos attached. Please ignore the temporary pulley. It was replaced with a fairlead. > > Blue Skies, > Steve D > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Scott Knowlton > wrote: > Jack, can you share the keel photo with the group? > > Thanks. > > Scott Knowlton. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 17, 2015, at 1:16 PM, "Jack" > wrote: > > Keith, > First, how are you. Haven't talk to you in a while. > I put a keel on the bottom of my fuselage which brought the covering out to not interfere with anything on the bottom. I'll take some pics and send them to you. > Jack > > Sent from my iPad > > On Aug 17, 2015, at 12:27 PM, goffelectric(at)comcast.net wrote: > > Anyone that has left the bottom of their fuselage flat, did you put the bolts in for things like rudder pedals or landing gear then cover over the bolts? Or did you cover the flat bottom then put those bolts in through the fabric? > > Thanks, > Keith Goff > > > > > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D > > > > > -- > Blue Skies, > Steve D > > > <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List> <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Fastnaught John <fastnaught(at)windstream.net>
Subject: Re: covering
Date: Aug 17, 2015
Keith and other Pieters, Here are some pics of the keel on the =9CBabe.=9D > On Aug 17, 2015, at 8:58 PM, goffelectric(at)comcast.net wrote: > > That's a great idea, thanks! > > Keith > > From: "Steven Dortch" <steven.d.dortch(at)gmail.com> > To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com > Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 3:50:02 PM > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: covering > > Keith, consider adding a large belly access panel on the rear fuselage about 1/2 way back from the seat back to the tailwheel. The cables for the rear wheel come through this hole. It is basically a hole in the fabrick Simply framed in with wood thick enough to run screws into. NO FRAME IS TAKEN OUT. Two pieces of frame cross the open area, one directly across the other diagonal. I can basically stick my head in one hole and my arm in another. Makes access to the rear much easier. I covered it with very thin aluminium flashing from the aviation department at Lowes. This flashing came painted white and in a roll about 20 yards long and 24 inches wide. It will cut with sturdy scissors or I used a sharp knife and a straight edge. It creases easily. It was cheap enough that I used it to practice with and make the first bad template and then made the second that I used. I covered the. > > Poor photos attached. Please ignore the temporary pulley. It was replaced with a fairlead. > > Blue Skies, > Steve D > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Scott Knowlton > wrote: > Jack, can you share the keel photo with the group? > > Thanks. > > Scott Knowlton. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 17, 2015, at 1:16 PM, "Jack" > wrote: > > Keith, > First, how are you. Haven't talk to you in a while. > I put a keel on the bottom of my fuselage which brought the covering out to not interfere with anything on the bottom. I'll take some pics and send them to you. > Jack > > Sent from my iPad > > On Aug 17, 2015, at 12:27 PM, goffelectric(at)comcast.net wrote: > > Anyone that has left the bottom of their fuselage flat, did you put the bolts in for things like rudder pedals or landing gear then cover over the bolts? Or did you cover the flat bottom then put those bolts in through the fabric? > > Thanks, > Keith Goff > > > > > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D > > > > > -- > Blue Skies, > Steve D > > > <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List> <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 17, 2015
Subject: Re: covering
From: Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch(at)gmail.com>
Oh yeah my belly has a keel. I always have better ideas later. My access cover is made with a sheets of thin aluminum riveted and with fairings creased in for the tailwheel cables. At some later date after is is test flown or maybe at next years condition inspection, I will put a single sheet on with longer and prettier fairings. Simpler too. To reiterate. You are simply replacing cloth with a cover. Perhaps saran wrap will do. Or zippers! LOL. Stay light my friend. Stev D On Aug 17, 2015 8:01 PM, wrote: > That's a great idea, thanks! > > Keith > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Steven Dortch" <steven.d.dortch(at)gmail.com> > *To: *pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com > *Sent: *Monday, August 17, 2015 3:50:02 PM > *Subject: *Re: Pietenpol-List: covering > > Keith, consider adding a large belly access panel on the rear fuselage > about 1/2 way back from the seat back to the tailwheel. The cables for the > rear wheel come through this hole. It is basically a hole in the > fabrick Simply framed in with wood thick enough to run screws into. NO > FRAME IS TAKEN OUT. Two pieces of frame cross the open area, one directly > across the other diagonal. I can basically stick my head in one hole and > my arm in another. Makes access to the rear much easier. I covered it with > very thin aluminium flashing from the aviation department at Lowes. This > flashing came painted white and in a roll about 20 yards long and 24 inches > wide. It will cut with sturdy scissors or I used a sharp knife and a > straight edge. It creases easily. It was cheap enough that I used it to > practice with and make the first bad template and then made the second that > I used. I covered the. > > Poor photos attached. Please ignore the temporary pulley. It was replaced > with a fairlead. > > Blue Skies, > Steve D > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Scott Knowlton > wrote: > >> Jack, can you share the keel photo with the group? >> >> Thanks. >> >> Scott Knowlton. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Aug 17, 2015, at 1:16 PM, "Jack" wrote: >> >> Keith, >> First, how are you. Haven't talk to you in a while. >> I put a keel on the bottom of my fuselage which brought the covering out >> to not interfere with anything on the bottom. I'll take some pics and send >> them to you. >> Jack >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Aug 17, 2015, at 12:27 PM, goffelectric(at)comcast.net wrote: >> >> Anyone that has left the bottom of their fuselage flat, did you put the >> bolts in for things like rudder pedals or landing gear then cover over the >> bolts? Or did you cover the flat bottom then put those bolts in through the >> fabric? >> >> Thanks, >> Keith Goff >> >> >> >> * >> >> 3D============================================ >> 3D============================================ >> 3D============================================ >> 3D============================================ >> >> * >> >> > > > -- > Blue Skies, > Steve D > > * > > > * > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 17, 2015
Subject: Re: test, let me know if this comes through
From: Tony Crawford <tonyp51qa(at)gmail.com>
As always Bright, clear and often readable! Tony On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Jack wrote: > I=99m getting this message daily > > > Jack Textor > West Des Moines, IA > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto: > owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *THOMAS.233327 > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 29, 2015 6:58 PM > *To:* pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com > *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: test, let me know if this comes through > > > Dowe > > It came through just fine for me, and I'm just a lurker! > > Tom Hale > > Building a Sonex/AeroVee > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Douwe Blumberg" <douwe(at)douwestudios.com> > *To: *pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com > *Sent: *Monday, July 27, 2015 5:02:58 AM > *Subject: *Pietenpol-List: test, let me know if this comes through > > > Would someone let me know if this message shows up? > > > I posted a few yesterday but don=99t see them on the list this morn ing, > wonder if something=99s wrong. > > > Thanks > > > Douwe > > > *" target="_blank" data-mce-href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator? Pietenpol-List <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List>">http:// www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List <http://www.matronics.com/Naviga tor?Pietenpol-List>* > > *ta-mce-href="http://forums.matronics.com ">http://forums.matronics.com * > > *_blank" data-mce-href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution ">http://www.matronics.com/contribution * > > > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List * > > *http://forums.matronics.com * > > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution * > > > ------------------------------ > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > 07/21/15 > > * > =========== .matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List> =========== =========== om/contribution> =========== > > * > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 17, 2015
Subject: Re: Any builders/flyers in Tn?
From: Tony Crawford <tonyp51qa(at)gmail.com>
Hi, Not sure where SDpring Hill Tn is at. But i'm in Northern AL {south of Nashville} Building a Piet. with a CORVAIR engine. Tony On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 8:05 AM, scottsaver wrote: > > Good Morning! > > My name is Scott Saver. I recently moved to Spring Hill TN and keep an RV8 > At Lewisburg (KLUG). My father and I were building a Piete when he passed > two years ago. Trying to get motivated to finish the project so thought I'd > See if anyone was nearby. Would love to see a completed airplane. > > Thanks! > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445413#445413 > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Fastnaught John <fastnaught(at)windstream.net>
Subject: Re: covering
Date: Aug 17, 2015
Keith and other Pieters, Here are some pics of the keel on the =9CBabe.=9D > On Aug 17, 2015, at 8:58 PM, goffelectric(at)comcast.net wrote: > > That's a great idea, thanks! > > Keith > > From: "Steven Dortch" <steven.d.dortch(at)gmail.com> > To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com > Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 3:50:02 PM > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: covering > > Keith, consider adding a large belly access panel on the rear fuselage about 1/2 way back from the seat back to the tailwheel. The cables for the rear wheel come through this hole. It is basically a hole in the fabrick Simply framed in with wood thick enough to run screws into. NO FRAME IS TAKEN OUT. Two pieces of frame cross the open area, one directly across the other diagonal. I can basically stick my head in one hole and my arm in another. Makes access to the rear much easier. I covered it with very thin aluminium flashing from the aviation department at Lowes. This flashing came painted white and in a roll about 20 yards long and 24 inches wide. It will cut with sturdy scissors or I used a sharp knife and a straight edge. It creases easily. It was cheap enough that I used it to practice with and make the first bad template and then made the second that I used. I covered the. > > Poor photos attached. Please ignore the temporary pulley. It was replaced with a fairlead. > > Blue Skies, > Steve D > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Scott Knowlton > wrote: > Jack, can you share the keel photo with the group? > > Thanks. > > Scott Knowlton. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 17, 2015, at 1:16 PM, "Jack" > wrote: > > Keith, > First, how are you. Haven't talk to you in a while. > I put a keel on the bottom of my fuselage which brought the covering out to not interfere with anything on the bottom. I'll take some pics and send them to you. > Jack > > Sent from my iPad > > On Aug 17, 2015, at 12:27 PM, goffelectric(at)comcast.net wrote: > > Anyone that has left the bottom of their fuselage flat, did you put the bolts in for things like rudder pedals or landing gear then cover over the bolts? Or did you cover the flat bottom then put those bolts in through the fabric? > > Thanks, > Keith Goff > > > > > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D > > > > > -- > Blue Skies, > Steve D > > > <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List> <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Fastnaught John <fastnaught(at)windstream.net>
Subject: Re: covering
Date: Aug 17, 2015
Keith and other Pieters, Here are some pics of the keel on the =9CBabe.=9D > On Aug 17, 2015, at 8:58 PM, goffelectric(at)comcast.net wrote: > > That's a great idea, thanks! > > Keith > > From: "Steven Dortch" <steven.d.dortch(at)gmail.com > > To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com > Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 3:50:02 PM > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: covering > > Keith, consider adding a large belly access panel on the rear fuselage about 1/2 way back from the seat back to the tailwheel. The cables for the rear wheel come through this hole. It is basically a hole in the fabrick Simply framed in with wood thick enough to run screws into. NO FRAME IS TAKEN OUT. Two pieces of frame cross the open area, one directly across the other diagonal. I can basically stick my head in one hole and my arm in another. Makes access to the rear much easier. I covered it with very thin aluminium flashing from the aviation department at Lowes. This flashing came painted white and in a roll about 20 yards long and 24 inches wide. It will cut with sturdy scissors or I used a sharp knife and a straight edge. It creases easily. It was cheap enough that I used it to practice with and make the first bad template and then made the second that I used. I covered the. > > Poor photos attached. Please ignore the temporary pulley. It was replaced with a fairlead. > > Blue Skies, > Steve D > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Scott Knowlton > wrote: > Jack, can you share the keel photo with the group? > > Thanks. > > Scott Knowlton. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 17, 2015, at 1:16 PM, "Jack" > wrote: > > Keith, > First, how are you. Haven't talk to you in a while. > I put a keel on the bottom of my fuselage which brought the covering out to not interfere with anything on the bottom. I'll take some pics and send them to you. > Jack > > Sent from my iPad > > On Aug 17, 2015, at 12:27 PM, goffelectric(at)comcast.net wrote: > > Anyone that has left the bottom of their fuselage flat, did you put the bolts in for things like rudder pedals or landing gear then cover over the bolts? Or did you cover the flat bottom then put those bolts in through the fabric? > > Thanks, > Keith Goff > > > > > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D > > > > > -- > Blue Skies, > Steve D > > > <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List> <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Ray Krause <raykrause(at)frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton
Date: Aug 17, 2015
Chuck, Thanks! Nope, that is very clear. I started punching holes for the stitching today and went out three ribs from the center section with 2.5" spacing. Th e rest will be 3.5". That's kind of a conglomeration of all the advise I got from my friends. Since this is a SkyScout with an A-65, I'm planning on a m ax speed of 125MPH! Thanks, Ray Sent from my iPad > On Aug 17, 2015, at 5:10 PM, Charles N. Campbell wrote: > > OK. Measure 1/2 the length of the prop. Use this figure from the center l ine of the center section and measure out that length on the wing. Go one m ore rib for the 1/2 spacing. Is that confusing? Chuck > >> On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 8:19 PM, Ray Krause w rote: >> Chuck, >> >> Any rules on where the prop blast is? Farther out on the left wing (how m any ribs)? How far out on the right? I just did 2" on all the control surf aces. Maybe overkill, but the runs are so short. >> >> Ray Krause >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Aug 16, 2015, at 4:56 PM, Charles N. Campbell wrote: >>> >>> I believe the rule is 3-1/2 inches for airplanes of our airspeed. It lo oks better if you just halve that figure to 1-3/4 inches in the prop blast a rea (plus one rib). Chuck >>> >>>> On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 7:12 PM, Jim Boyer wrote : >>>> Hi Gary and Ray; >>>> What rib stitching knot do you use? I used Staggerwing knot on tail sur faces. Ray Marv and I will be rib stitching my first wing tomorrow. >>>> Good luck Ray; PS did you space all knots 2 1/2 inches or 2 inches with in prop blast? >>>> Thanks, >>>> Jim >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D >>>> 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D >>>> 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D >>>> 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >>> npol-List"">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List >>> D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >>> //forums.matronics.com >>> D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >>> ot;">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>> D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >>> >> >> >> " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List >> tp://forums.matronics.com >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> > > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch(at)gmail.com>
Date: Aug 17, 2015
Subject: Re: covering
got It Looking good. Steve D On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 9:39 PM, Fastnaught John wrote: > Keith and other Pieters, > Here are some pics of the keel on the =9CBabe.=9D > > On Aug 17, 2015, at 8:58 PM, goffelectric(at)comcast.net wrote: > > That's a great idea, thanks! > > Keith > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Steven Dortch" <steven.d.dortch(at)gmail.com> > *To: *pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com > *Sent: *Monday, August 17, 2015 3:50:02 PM > *Subject: *Re: Pietenpol-List: covering > > Keith, consider adding a large belly access panel on the rear fuselage > about 1/2 way back from the seat back to the tailwheel. The cables for t he > rear wheel come through this hole. It is basically a hole in the > fabrick Simply framed in with wood thick enough to run screws into. NO > FRAME IS TAKEN OUT. Two pieces of frame cross the open area, one directly > across the other diagonal. I can basically stick my head in one hole an d > my arm in another. Makes access to the rear much easier. I covered it wi th > very thin aluminium flashing from the aviation department at Lowes. This > flashing came painted white and in a roll about 20 yards long and 24 inch es > wide. It will cut with sturdy scissors or I used a sharp knife and a > straight edge. It creases easily. It was cheap enough that I used it to > practice with and make the first bad template and then made the second th at > I used. I covered the. > > Poor photos attached. Please ignore the temporary pulley. It was replaced > with a fairlead. > > Blue Skies, > Steve D > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Scott Knowlton > wrote: > >> Jack, can you share the keel photo with the group? >> >> Thanks. >> >> Scott Knowlton. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Aug 17, 2015, at 1:16 PM, "Jack" wrote: >> >> Keith, >> First, how are you. Haven't talk to you in a while. >> I put a keel on the bottom of my fuselage which brought the covering out >> to not interfere with anything on the bottom. I'll take some pics and se nd >> them to you. >> Jack >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Aug 17, 2015, at 12:27 PM, goffelectric(at)comcast.net wrote: >> >> Anyone that has left the bottom of their fuselage flat, did you put the >> bolts in for things like rudder pedals or landing gear then cover over t he >> bolts? Or did you cover the flat bottom then put those bolts in through the >> fabric? >> >> Thanks, >> Keith Goff >> >> >> >> * >> >> 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D >> 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D >> 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D >> 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D >> >> * >> >> > > > -- > Blue Skies, > Steve D > > * > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List " class="">http://www.matronics.com/N avigator?Pietenpol-List <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List> > class="">http://forums.matronics.com > class="">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > * > > -- Blue Skies, Steve D ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch(at)gmail.com>
Date: Aug 17, 2015
Subject: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton
So your truck will pull a trailer 125 MPH? wow. Steve D On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 10:09 PM, Ray Krause wrote: > Chuck, > > Thanks! Nope, that is very clear. I started punching holes for the > stitching today and went out three ribs from the center section with 2.5" > spacing. The rest will be 3.5". That's kind of a conglomeration of all the > advise I got from my friends. Since this is a SkyScout with an A-65, I'm > planning on a max speed of 125MPH! > > Thanks, > > Ray > > Sent from my iPad > > On Aug 17, 2015, at 5:10 PM, Charles N. Campbell < > charlescampbell1924(at)gmail.com> wrote: > > OK. Measure 1/2 the length of the prop. Use this figure from the center > line of the center section and measure out that length on the wing. Go one > more rib for the 1/2 spacing. Is that confusing? Chuck


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