Pietenpol-Archive.digest.vol-py
February 09, 2019 - October 31, 2019
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487481#487481
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190207_114332_resized_275.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190207_114324_resized_975.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
the shop was a little cold to comfortably work with t-88 so i cut and beveled the
gussets for the trailing edge piece. I then put on a coat of varnish on the
leading edge parts that won't be accesable once the leading edge plywood is on.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487500#487500
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
still working on the left wing. The trailing edge is installed and i figured out
how i want to do the wing tips, the plans are a little vague on this part so
after some though this is what i came up with
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487540#487540
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190211_121719_resized_180.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190211_121816_resized_514.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190211_121828_resized_972.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | Kip Gardner <kipgohio1957(at)gmail.com> |
Looking good,
I hope to start on one of these in a year or so, Ive enjoyed seeing your progress.
I wish there were still more people using this forum, i think the format
is more conducive to real info exchange than Facebook.
Kip Gardner
> On Feb 11, 2019, at 8:45 PM, cdlwingnut wrote:
>
>
> still working on the left wing. The trailing edge is installed and i figured
out how i want to do the wing tips, the plans are a little vague on this part
so after some though this is what i came up with
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487540#487540
>
>
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190211_121719_resized_180.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190211_121816_resized_514.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190211_121828_resized_972.jpg
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
thanks Kip
I do like this format for showing build progress, I would love so see others who
are building use it too. It is fun watching a bunch of sticks and some plywood
slowly turn into an airplane.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487542#487542
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Glen Schweizer <glenschweizer(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
Hi Kip
Ive been a member of this forum for a couple of years. I like the people and the
format...so much amazing information
My partner set me up with Brodhead Pietenpol Association. Same great people plus
a bunch more , all the information you find here,plus,once again, a bunch more.
If you havent already, you might want to check it out. Thats something you
can do without giving mr zuckerberg your data Blue skies!
> On Feb 11, 2019, at 6:46 PM, Kip Gardner wrote:
>
>
> Looking good,
>
> I hope to start on one of these in a year or so, Ive enjoyed seeing your progress.
I wish there were still more people using this forum, i think the format
is more conducive to real info exchange than Facebook.
>
> Kip Gardner
>
>> On Feb 11, 2019, at 8:45 PM, cdlwingnut wrote:
>>
>>
>> still working on the left wing. The trailing edge is installed and i figured
out how i want to do the wing tips, the plans are a little vague on this part
so after some though this is what i came up with
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487540#487540
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Attachments:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190211_121719_resized_180.jpg
>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190211_121816_resized_514.jpg
>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190211_121828_resized_972.jpg
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Clif Dawson" <cdawson5854(at)shaw.ca> |
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
Facebook has only one mandate. Take every last bit of your life and
sell it to any and all businesses that will make a profit off it.
That goes for gubmint also. Big Time!
Anyway, enough rant. I've now got my very own hanger space at
Delta Heritage Airpark, CAK3, in Delta, BC, Canada.
http://www.deltaheritageairpark.org/
I'm getting closer and closer to the frame inspection. I need a 72"
tach cable and two 90 fittings. I'm saving up for that. When
the weather gets better I'll be doing the fuel system leak test
and fuel flow test. Also compass swinging. There's some
nuts and bolt stuff to take care of. OH! and the engine cowling
to design and make. 90% done 90% to go!
And then there's the prop to make!!
These pics are in the temporary space. My new permanent space
is three spaces right, at the very end of the hanger.
Clif
Fill what's empty, empty what's full, fart joyously, carry matches.
>
>
> Hi Kip
> Ive been a member of this forum for a couple of years. I like the people
> and the format...so much amazing information
> My partner set me up with Brodhead Pietenpol Association. Same great
> people plus a bunch more , all the information you find here,plus,once
> again, a bunch more. If you havent already, you might want to check it
> out. Thats something you can do without giving mr zuckerberg your data
> Blue skies!
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 02/11/19 |
| From: | dndboyd2(at)gmail.com |
I much prefer the Matronics format for good technical information on building.
Also good for announcing events. Too many distractions on FB.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Feb 12, 2019, at 1:39 AM, Pietenpol-List Digest Server
wrote:
>
> *
>
> =================================================
> Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive
> =================================================
>
> Today's complete Pietenpol-List Digest can also be found in either of the
> two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted
> in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes
> and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version
> of the Pietenpol-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor
> such as Notepad or with a web browser.
>
> HTML Version:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 19-02-11&Archive=Pietenpol
>
> Text Version:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 19-02-11&Archive=Pietenpol
>
>
> ===============================================
> EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive
> ===============================================
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Pietenpol-List Digest Archive
> ---
> Total Messages Posted Mon 02/11/19: 4
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Today's Message Index:
> ----------------------
>
> 1. 05:45 PM - Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet (cdlwingnut)
> 2. 06:47 PM - Re: Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet (Kip Gardner)
> 3. 07:22 PM - Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet (cdlwingnut)
> 4. 07:36 PM - Re: Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet (Glen Schweizer)
>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
>
>
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet
> From: "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com>
>
>
> still working on the left wing. The trailing edge is installed and i figured
out
> how i want to do the wing tips, the plans are a little vague on this part so
> after some though this is what i came up with
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487540#487540
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190211_121719_resized_180.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190211_121816_resized_514.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190211_121828_resized_972.jpg
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
>
>
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet
> From: Kip Gardner <kipgohio1957(at)gmail.com>
>
>
> Looking good,
>
> I hope to start on one of these in a year or so, Ive enjoyed seeing your progress.
> I wish there were still more people using this forum, i think the format
> is more conducive to real info exchange than Facebook.
>
> Kip Gardner
>
>> On Feb 11, 2019, at 8:45 PM, cdlwingnut wrote:
>>
>>
>> still working on the left wing. The trailing edge is installed and i figured
> out how i want to do the wing tips, the plans are a little vague on this part
> so after some though this is what i came up with
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487540#487540
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Attachments:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190211_121719_resized_180.jpg
>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190211_121816_resized_514.jpg
>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190211_121828_resized_972.jpg
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________
>
>
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet
> From: "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com>
>
>
> thanks Kip
> I do like this format for showing build progress, I would love so see others
who
> are building use it too. It is fun watching a bunch of sticks and some plywood
> slowly turn into an airplane.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487542#487542
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________
>
>
> From: Glen Schweizer <glenschweizer(at)yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet
>
>
> Hi Kip
> Ive been a member of this forum for a couple of years. I like the people and
the
> format...so much amazing information
> My partner set me up with Brodhead Pietenpol Association. Same great people plus
> a bunch more , all the information you find here,plus,once again, a bunch more.
> If you havent already, you might want to check it out. Thats something you
> can do without giving mr zuckerberg your data Blue skies!
>
>> On Feb 11, 2019, at 6:46 PM, Kip Gardner wrote:
>>
>>
>> Looking good,
>>
>> I hope to start on one of these in a year or so, Ive enjoyed seeing your progress.
> I wish there were still more people using this forum, i think the format
> is more conducive to real info exchange than Facebook.
>>
>> Kip Gardner
>>
>>> On Feb 11, 2019, at 8:45 PM, cdlwingnut wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> still working on the left wing. The trailing edge is installed and i figured
> out how i want to do the wing tips, the plans are a little vague on this part
> so after some though this is what i came up with
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487540#487540
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Attachments:
>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190211_121719_resized_180.jpg
>>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190211_121816_resized_514.jpg
>>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190211_121828_resized_972.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 02/11/19 |
| From: | dndboyd2(at)gmail.com |
I much prefer the Matronics format for good technical information on building.
Also good for announcing events. Too many distractions on FB.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Feb 12, 2019, at 1:39 AM, Pietenpol-List Digest Server
wrote:
>
> *
>
> =================================================
> Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive
> =================================================
>
> Today's complete Pietenpol-List Digest can also be found in either of the
> two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted
> in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes
> and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version
> of the Pietenpol-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor
> such as Notepad or with a web browser.
>
> HTML Version:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 19-02-11&Archive=Pietenpol
>
> Text Version:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 19-02-11&Archive=Pietenpol
>
>
> ===============================================
> EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive
> ===============================================
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Pietenpol-List Digest Archive
> ---
> Total Messages Posted Mon 02/11/19: 4
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Today's Message Index:
> ----------------------
>
> 1. 05:45 PM - Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet (cdlwingnut)
> 2. 06:47 PM - Re: Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet (Kip Gardner)
> 3. 07:22 PM - Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet (cdlwingnut)
> 4. 07:36 PM - Re: Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet (Glen Schweizer)
>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
>
>
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet
> From: "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com>
>
>
> still working on the left wing. The trailing edge is installed and i figured
out
> how i want to do the wing tips, the plans are a little vague on this part so
> after some though this is what i came up with
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487540#487540
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190211_121719_resized_180.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190211_121816_resized_514.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190211_121828_resized_972.jpg
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
>
>
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet
> From: Kip Gardner <kipgohio1957(at)gmail.com>
>
>
> Looking good,
>
> I hope to start on one of these in a year or so, Ive enjoyed seeing your progress.
> I wish there were still more people using this forum, i think the format
> is more conducive to real info exchange than Facebook.
>
> Kip Gardner
>
>> On Feb 11, 2019, at 8:45 PM, cdlwingnut wrote:
>>
>>
>> still working on the left wing. The trailing edge is installed and i figured
> out how i want to do the wing tips, the plans are a little vague on this part
> so after some though this is what i came up with
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487540#487540
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Attachments:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190211_121719_resized_180.jpg
>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190211_121816_resized_514.jpg
>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190211_121828_resized_972.jpg
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________
>
>
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet
> From: "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com>
>
>
> thanks Kip
> I do like this format for showing build progress, I would love so see others
who
> are building use it too. It is fun watching a bunch of sticks and some plywood
> slowly turn into an airplane.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487542#487542
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________
>
>
> From: Glen Schweizer <glenschweizer(at)yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet
>
>
> Hi Kip
> Ive been a member of this forum for a couple of years. I like the people and
the
> format...so much amazing information
> My partner set me up with Brodhead Pietenpol Association. Same great people plus
> a bunch more , all the information you find here,plus,once again, a bunch more.
> If you havent already, you might want to check it out. Thats something you
> can do without giving mr zuckerberg your data Blue skies!
>
>> On Feb 11, 2019, at 6:46 PM, Kip Gardner wrote:
>>
>>
>> Looking good,
>>
>> I hope to start on one of these in a year or so, Ive enjoyed seeing your progress.
> I wish there were still more people using this forum, i think the format
> is more conducive to real info exchange than Facebook.
>>
>> Kip Gardner
>>
>>> On Feb 11, 2019, at 8:45 PM, cdlwingnut wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> still working on the left wing. The trailing edge is installed and i figured
> out how i want to do the wing tips, the plans are a little vague on this part
> so after some though this is what i came up with
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487540#487540
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Attachments:
>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190211_121719_resized_180.jpg
>>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190211_121816_resized_514.jpg
>>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190211_121828_resized_972.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "taildrags" <taildrags(at)hotmail.com> |
Clif; after dealing with an awkwardly-routed tach cable on my airplane, I sprung
for one of those 90 degree cable adapters from Aircraft Spruce. About $70 USD,
works great.
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487556#487556
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Clif Dawson" <cdawson5854(at)shaw.ca> |
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
Yeah, that's what I'm aiming for. They seeem to be the only ones
with the 72" cable I need as well. I'm saving up my sheckles. Or yuans. :-)
Clif
Life is uncertain. Eat dessert first.
>
> Clif; after dealing with an awkwardly-routed tach cable on my airplane, I
> sprung for one of those 90 degree cable adapters from Aircraft Spruce.
> About $70 USD, works great.
>
> --------
> Oscar Zuniga
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
i soaked and bend the first piece of plywood over the leading edge of the wing
to prebend it.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487596#487596
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190214_145129_resized_137.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
I marked the plywood where it will be glued to the spar, ribs, and nose piece.
took it off and then varnished the inside in the areas where the t-88 won't be
applied, as soon as the varnish dries I can glue it permanently in place.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487622#487622
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
the first leading edge plywood panel is glued in place
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487703#487703
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190219_170911_resized_148.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190219_170917_resized_315.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Greg Cardinal" <gcardinal(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Pietenpol 90th Anniversary |
This year marks the 90th anniversary of the Pietenpol Air Camper.
EAA is making plans to promote this milestone at this year's Oshkosh
convention.
They are trying to get an idea of how many Pietenpols are likely to turn up
at Oshkosh this year by having us pre-register.
Please go here to fill out the pre-registration form:
https://www.eaa.org/en/airventure/features-and-attractions/airventure-highli
ght/featured-aircraft-anniversaries/Pietenpol
More details to follow.
Greg Cardinal
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Michael Perez <speedbrake(at)sbcglobal.net> |
Hello crew. Taking a shot in the dark here...someone called my home phone last
night, (28 Feb.) and left a message on my land line; no caller ID. I believe his
name is Phil and he received my number from someone named Scott. He wanted
to talk Pietenpols I believe. (old machine...hard to understand...) Anyhoo, if
you are or know of him, please call again and leave a number that I can call
you back.
Thanks.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Ray Krause <raykrause(at)frontiernet.net> |
Beautiful build and flight! Congratulations!
Ray Krause
Sent from my iPad
Steve, congratulations are for Rick and his test pilot. I'm just enjoying t
he flight vicariously a thousand miles to the west. Cheers, Ken
> On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 6:44 PM, Steven Dortch w
rote:
> OK,OK. Tomorrow after church I will go get something done.
>
> Man it motivates me to get mine completed
>
> Great job Ken.
>
>> On Sep 26, 2015 7:37 PM, "Ken Bickers" wrote:
>> Excellent, excellent, excellent!
>>
>> Congratulations!
>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 6:25 PM, Gary Boothe wrot
e:
>>> So very happy for you!! Keep the news and info coming
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gary Boothe
>>>
>>> NX308MB
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-
list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Schreiber
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 5:00 PM
>>> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
>>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: NX478RS first flight
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Well fellow Pieters today was the day. The first flight of NX478RS occur
red today at about 12:45 without any problems. For years I told everyone who
asked, that it would fly "Friday" - just never what week, or year. Well I o
nly missed it by a day. Here are some shots of the occasion. The first flig
ht was done by a good friend of mine who also works for the FAA. So everytin
g had to be done right.
>>> Rick Schreiber
>>> VPZ
>>> Valparaiso IN
>>>
>>> Take off!!!!
>>>
>>>
>>> Climbing nicely
>>>
>>>
>>> Good first Landing with a little wind gusts
>>>
>>>
>>> Happy smiles for Kris the test pilot!
>>>
>>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | amsafetyc(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | =?UTF-8?Q?I=99ll_be_listing_my_Piet_proj?= =?UTF-8?Q?ect_for_sale_on_barnstormers_? |
Fuselage=C2-WingsAll=C2-Tail group=C2-Landing gearFirewall=C2-Engin
e mountEngine lycoming 0235=C2-all logsParts for assembly are yellow tagg
edLots of partsGauges2 sets of mags=C2-Much more
Anyone interested, please contact me by return e mail=C2-Amsafetyc(at)aol.co
m or call:=C2-215 208 8309
Thanks
John Recine
Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "taildrags" <taildrags(at)hotmail.com> |
Ray! Good to see your name here again. Scott Liefeld got your Scout in the air
and is now working on suppressing the ignition noise so he can use a radio.
You sure did build a nice one!
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487960#487960
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Ray Krause <raykrause(at)frontiernet.net> |
Oscar,
Thanks, Scout went to a very nice home and will be well cared for. Scott plans
on teaching my grandson how to fly her....sometime!
Thanks for your friendship and advice during my build. You are a great help to
everyone.
Still making those hinges?
Ray Krause
Sent from my iPad
On Mar 6, 2019, at 8:12 PM, taildrags wrote:
Ray! Good to see your name here again. Scott Liefeld got your Scout in the air
and is now working on suppressing the ignition noise so he can use a radio.
You sure did build a nice one!
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487960#487960
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "taildrags" <taildrags(at)hotmail.com> |
Yes, still making/selling the Vi Kapler aluminum hinges.
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487967#487967
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
with a few mins here and there i managed to get another plywood pre=bent varnished
and glued to the leading edge.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487979#487979
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190308_154726_resized_118.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190308_154731_resized_617.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
i unstrapped the second plywood leading edge panel and then measured cut and soaked
the last one and strapped it in place to pre-bend
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488018#488018
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190311_170301_resized_730.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | amsafetyc(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Putting my Piet project up for sale |
Next week it goes up on barnstormers it=99s a 2 inch wider fuselage b
uilt from yellow poplar. Fuselage is built as are wings, center section lan
ding gear and tail group. The engine is a lycoming 0235 c1b all parts have
been inspected magnafluxed and yellow tagged along with accessories and spa
res. Engine and build alerts=C2-logs are included along with axel tires a
nd spoked wheels and drum=C2-brakes. All metal fittings are laser cut sta
inless steel fire wall is high polished stainless over fiberfrax fabric. In
struments are included, instrument boards are cut and ready to be drilled t
o locate instrument layout.=C2-
Many extras are included in the package. I have over $12000 cash=C2-in it
and am letting it go for 9000. It=99s in my hangar and can be made r
eady for buyer pick up.=C2-Photos are available for serious inquires. Med
ical and other issues preclude me from completing the project and forcing m
y reluctant sale.=C2-
Please contact me off list for additional information=C2-
Amsafetyc(at)aol.com
ThanksJohn
Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
i took the pre-bent panel off after marking where the t-88 will go and then put
one coat of varnish on the rest of the inside of the plywood. Another coat and
it will be ready to glue on.
I also got some of the smaller bracing glued in place on the wing
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488064#488064
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190313_162325_resized_774.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190313_162351_resized_117.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
i got the last panel glued onto the leading edge and did some trimming on the inner
rib to get the attachment brackets to go though on the second wing
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488106#488106
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190315_151231_resized_1_151.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190315_151237_resized_193.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190315_141110_resized_154.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Kip Gardner <kipgohio1957(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
So, looking at thse, I=99m curious, are the wings trammelled
entirely by the diagonal and fore-and aft wooden braces that I see in
the pictures, or will there be some sort of drag/antidrag wire system
like in a full-sized Piet?
Looking great BTW!
Kip Gardner
> On Mar 16, 2019, at 5:21 PM, cdlwingnut wrote:
>
>
> i got the last panel glued onto the leading edge and did some trimming
on the inner rib to get the attachment brackets to go though on the
second wing
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488106#488106
>
>
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190315_151231_resized_1_151.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190315_151237_resized_193.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190315_141110_resized_154.jpg
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
the plans just show the 4 diagnals for anti drag bracing
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488108#488108
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
I had a little help so I got out the nicopress and connected the cables from the
control stick to the ball crank.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488143#488143
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190318_140425_resized_180.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "taildrags" <taildrags(at)hotmail.com> |
You will want to trim off the tag ends of the cables where they stick out past
the pressed sleeves, just so those ends don't hang up on anything. It will look
a little neater too. When I re-did the tail brace wires on my airplane I slipped
some heat-shrink tubing onto the cables before making up the thimbles,
then slid it back over to cover the tag end after the pressing was done and I
was happy with the connections. That was on thimbles that I had the chance to
make myself, but since I didn't originally build my Piet, there were some thimbles
and shackles that had some fraying cables that would snag my cleaning cloth
or hand (ouch) and I couldn't get heat-shrink tubing onto those, so I used
safety wire to whip those down smooth (wind over the cable connection with wire).
Wire wrapping gives a more old-timey look, too.
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC, A75 power
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488147#488147
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Ken Bickers <bickers.ken(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
... another little trick, adding onto Oscar's, is to use a small piece of
electrical tape to pull the tag end against the standing cable before
sliding the heat shrink tubing over the tag end. The electrical tape will
keep individual wires from poking through the heat shrink tubing, now or
later. cheers, Ken
On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 9:37 AM taildrags wrote:
>
> You will want to trim off the tag ends of the cables where they stick out
> past the pressed sleeves, just so those ends don't hang up on anything. It
> will look a little neater too. When I re-did the tail brace wires on my
> airplane I slipped some heat-shrink tubing onto the cables before making up
> the thimbles, then slid it back over to cover the tag end after the
> pressing was done and I was happy with the connections. That was on
> thimbles that I had the chance to make myself, but since I didn't
> originally build my Piet, there were some thimbles and shackles that had
> some fraying cables that would snag my cleaning cloth or hand (ouch) and I
> couldn't get heat-shrink tubing onto those, so I used safety wire to whip
> those down smooth (wind over the cable connection with wire). Wire
> wrapping gives a more old-timey look, too.
>
> Oscar Zuniga
> Medford, OR
> Air Camper NX41CC, A75 power
>
> --------
> Oscar Zuniga
> Medford, OR
> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
> A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488147#488147
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
This has been a busy week so not a lot of progress has been made on the little
piet. I did get some time in today though to get a little done. I took the main
gear off so I can get the fuselage out of the room it is in and so I can get
the brakes fitted to the axle. I also got some more work done on my wing gluing
the pieces that go near where the aileron is attached.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488356#488356
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190329_130604_resized_136.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190329_130624_resized_204.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Clif Dawson" <cdawson5854(at)shaw.ca> |
Cardboard pattern for aluminum cowl.
Clif
Bill; "When I die I want to be cremated."
Willy; "Why?"
Bill; "It'll be my last chance at a smokin' body."
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Jack Textor <jack(at)textors.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Fw: engine cowl |
Very nice Cliff!
Jack Textor
Sent from my iPad
> On Mar 30, 2019, at 2:26 AM, Clif Dawson wrote:
>
> Cardboard pattern for aluminum cowl.
>
> Clif
>
> Bill; "When I die I want to be cremated."
> Willy; "Why?"
> Bill; "It'll be my last chance at a smokin' body."
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Boatright, Jeffrey" <jboatri(at)emory.edu> |
| Subject: | Re: Fw: engine cowl |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________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Lift Strut attach fittings |
| From: | "DonkDoug" <douglas.wright(at)okstate.edu> |
Hello Pieters,
The lift strut attach fittings, if built to the 1933 plans, are spaced 27 3/4"
between centers. Does anyone know why they are not the same 28 3/4" spacing as
the spar centers? Obviously it works but I can't understand why the lift struts
were not run parallel to each other. On the GN-1, John Grega designed his
adaptation of the Piet so that they are parallel - the strut fittings are the
same spacing as the spars. Any insight as to why Mr. Pietenpol did not do
this?
Thanks,
Doug Wright
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488367#488367
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Lift Strut attach fittings |
| From: | "DonkDoug" <douglas.wright(at)okstate.edu> |
Pieters,
To answer my own question I found in the archives from 2003 a discussion on this
question. Seems I was not the first to ask it. The consensus was:
1.) No one knows why the lift strut attach points are 27 3/4" apart.
2.) Most people have built their planes based on that dimension.
3.) It flies just fine built that way so don't worry about it.
Good enough for me. And one gentleman said the GN-1 struts are actually 1/2" inch
out of parallel. I stand corrected.
Doug
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488370#488370
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "taildrags" <taildrags(at)hotmail.com> |
Clif; I really like the way it looks with the colored stock that you used. I've
made mockups using poster board and cardboard, but they look cheesy compared
to yours.
So where do you plan to install a heat muff for carb heat, and what about your
oil filler cap/dipstick? Where will that shoot out?
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488380#488380
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Lift Strut attach fittings |
| From: | "taildrags" <taildrags(at)hotmail.com> |
This has me curious enough about it that I'm thinking of constructing a 3-d model
of the 4-bar linkage created by the two lift struts and their four attachment
points and then shifting the wing aft by a couple of inches to see if the angle
of incidence changes. A lot of builders end up shifting the wing aft to
make adjustments in the CG and I wonder if that changes the AOI any significant
amount. Yeah, I know... it flies just fine ;o)
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488382#488382
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Lift Strut attach fittings |
| From: | "DonkDoug" <douglas.wright(at)okstate.edu> |
Oscar,
I wondered the same thing about the wing being moved back to get the CG correct
and how that affected the angle of incidence at the cabane attach points. I
did a little trig and in that case it decreases the angle of incidence by a negligible
amount. I suspect the angle of incidence at the lift strut attach points
is changed the same amount.
Doug
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488383#488383
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Lift Strut attach fittings |
| From: | "taildrags" <taildrags(at)hotmail.com> |
Well Doug, I think what I just found out is that I had a "DOH!" moment just then
;o) The wing pivots aft on the *cabane* struts, not the wing lift struts!!!
The lift struts must be disconnected during the wing pivot operation and the
cable x-braces disconnected (or slackened) as well. The lift struts have length
adjustments by way of the threaded end fittings (forks or Heim joints) at
their lower ends, and the X-brace cables have turnbuckles for length adjustments.
OK, I'm awake now. Sorry I wasn't thinking ;o)
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488384#488384
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Lift Strut attach fittings |
| From: | "DonkDoug" <douglas.wright(at)okstate.edu> |
No problem Oscar.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488387#488387
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Lift Strut attach fittings |
| From: | "taildrags" <taildrags(at)hotmail.com> |
Doug; see if you can detect the 1" difference in spacing between the spars and
the lower lift strut attach points in this picture. If you can't discern the
difference, then just notice that I'm flying an Air Camper in the picture, having
a great time, happy to be in the air in a simple, honest, affordable airplane
of my own. I'm the pilot, navigator, and mechanic. I got to be in this picture
because I didn't build the airplane. If I had, I would no doubt have over-thought
the build every step of the way!
You can be a Piet pilot too, like thousands of others have done in the last 90
years. Carry on...
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488390#488390
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc_0011_571.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Clif Dawson" <cdawson5854(at)shaw.ca> |
Well, the card stock ( matt board ) was a cheesy bright red so
I took the same paint as will be on the real thing and sprayed it.
( bloody cheater!:-) ). I've got two 4 by 8 sheets of free aluminum.
Guess what? It's 2/3d's the thickness I need. :-( Oh well.
So, I've been struggling with the muff. I think it will be
the same pipe material welded to the inside a rear cylinder
pipe right up under the cylinder, more or less hidden.
The filler is up behind the right rear cylinder so a little
door will have to go there.
Clif
"Boy that was a smooth landing, now everyone get ready for the speed bump!"
>
> Clif; I really like the way it looks with the colored stock that you used.
> I've made mockups using poster board and cardboard, but they look cheesy
> compared to yours.
>
> So where do you plan to install a heat muff for carb heat, and what about
> your oil filler cap/dipstick? Where will that shoot out?
>
> Oscar Zuniga
> Medford, OR
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Lift Strut attach fittings |
| From: | "tkreiner" <tkreiner(at)gmail.com> |
Gentlemen,
I have reviewed the prints very carefully, and here's what I've found...
First, my plans are actual BLUE PRINTS, NOT black or blue lines on white background.
My plans are dated thusly: Sheets 1 & 2, 1933; Sheets 3 - 7, 1934, and
sheet 8 undated. After reviewing my Blue Prints, I believe there could have
been a Revision in '34, but never recorded as such.
Now then, to the dimensions... On sheet 1, the first slanted truss member is shown
to be 28 3/4 in. to the front seat back member. This differs from the F&G
dimensions, which calls out 29 in.
On sheet 5, the inside dimension between spars is called out at 27 3/4 in. With
a nominal 1 in thickness, the C-line dimension between spar attachments to the
Cabanes is then 28 3/4 in. Due to both the dimensions on p. 1, and p. 5, being
equal, the Cabanes would then be parallel.
Note that on p. 1, the fuselage attach fittings are angled to be inline with the
C-line of the truss members, while on p. 6, these are shown to be vertical.
Per Oscar's post, I've modeled the Cabane dimensions in SolidWorks, and the attached
pic shows the difference in the angle of incidence when the Cabanes are
moved 4 in. to the tail.
Hope this clarifies a few things... As I've mentioned before (and please don't
diss me regarding this), these drawings are a complete mess, and should be examined
with extreme care prior to building.
--------
Tom Kreiner
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488403#488403
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/cabane_dimensions_447.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Lift Strut attach fittings |
| From: | "DonkDoug" <douglas.wright(at)okstate.edu> |
Oscar, All I can tell from that picture is that it looks like you are having fun.
Tom, because I'm using a Corvair I should only have to to lean the wing back about
3.5" I got numbers similar to yours, however, when I did the math to determine
the change in angle of incidence.
Thank guys,
Doug
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488441#488441
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Michael Perez <speedbrake(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | New YouTube Channel |
Hello Crew. Just some FYI...I have resurrected my old Pietenpol HINT Videos. They
are now broken down into smaller segments and posted on my YouTube channel.
I have a ton of footage yet to upload, so it will be a while until the series
is completely finished. The quality lacks, the advise is not proven and the plane
has yet to fly; however, if you are looking to be entertained, enter Karetaker
Aero in the YouTube search box and take a look.
On a personal note, once the weather warms up some I will be assembling "Sweet
Susie" and starting engine break in and ground checks.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Jack Textor <jack(at)textors.com> |
| Subject: | Re: New YouTube Channel |
Thanks Michael!
Jack Textor
Sent from my iPad
> On Apr 2, 2019, at 6:34 AM, Michael Perez wrote:
>
>
> Hello Crew. Just some FYI...I have resurrected my old Pietenpol HINT Videos.
They are now broken down into smaller segments and posted on my YouTube channel.
I have a ton of footage yet to upload, so it will be a while until the series
is completely finished. The quality lacks, the advise is not proven and the
plane has yet to fly; however, if you are looking to be entertained, enter Karetaker
Aero in the YouTube search box and take a look.
>
> On a personal note, once the weather warms up some I will be assembling "Sweet
Susie" and starting engine break in and ground checks.
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Brian <wings.wheels29(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: New YouTube Channel |
Thanks Michael.... I have always enjoyed your videos.
Brian
Meridian, ID
Sent from my iPhone
> On Apr 2, 2019, at 3:26 PM, Jack Textor wrote:
>
>
> Thanks Michael!
>
> Jack Textor
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Apr 2, 2019, at 6:34 AM, Michael Perez wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hello Crew. Just some FYI...I have resurrected my old Pietenpol HINT Videos.
They are now broken down into smaller segments and posted on my YouTube channel.
I have a ton of footage yet to upload, so it will be a while until the series
is completely finished. The quality lacks, the advise is not proven and the
plane has yet to fly; however, if you are looking to be entertained, enter Karetaker
Aero in the YouTube search box and take a look.
>>
>> On a personal note, once the weather warms up some I will be assembling "Sweet
Susie" and starting engine break in and ground checks.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Lift Strut attach fittings |
| From: | "echobravo4" <eab4(at)comcast.net> |
a lot of over-thinking going on here...
--------
Earl Brown
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I
intended to be.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488468#488468
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Lift Strut attach fittings |
No horse is ever so dead that it cannot be beaten some more!
On Tue, Apr 2, 2019, 6:27 PM echobravo4 wrote:
>
> a lot of over-thinking going on here...
>
> --------
> Earl Brown
>
> I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up
> where I intended to be.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488468#488468
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Glen Schweizer <glenschweizer(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Brodhead anyone? |
Finally I get to go to Brodhead and Oshkosh this year! Well be taking the motorhome
instead of flying though because my pietenpol is no wheres near ready
to fly. Well drive from Osh to Brodhead for the pietenpol gathering. I have an
enormous favor to ask of anyone flying to Osh from Brodhead: I would beg, borrow,
steal or contribute to your next project for a ride to Osh. Thanks. Glen
Connect off list if interested in making this dream come true
glenschweizer(at)yahoo.com
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Brodhead anyone? |
| From: | "taildrags" <taildrags(at)hotmail.com> |
I don't think Piet pilots realize what a sweet deal this could be. With a motorhome
traveling along with you at pretty much the same pace, you can have a ground
support crew, airport shuttle, first-aid station, and home-cooked hot grilled
cheese sandwiches at every fuel stop ;o) Not only that, but with Glen in
the front cockpit, you have another set of eyes as well as a navigator- all at
no extra charge!
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488504#488504
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "skipgadd(at)earthlink.net" <skipgadd(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Brodhead anyone? |
In addition to what Oscar said, you also have an auto pilot ;)
Skip
-----Original Message-----
>From: taildrags <taildrags(at)hotmail.com>
>Sent: Apr 3, 2019 11:19 PM
>To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead anyone?
>
>
>I don't think Piet pilots realize what a sweet deal this could be. With a motorhome
traveling along with you at pretty much the same pace, you can have a ground
support crew, airport shuttle, first-aid station, and home-cooked hot grilled
cheese sandwiches at every fuel stop ;o) Not only that, but with Glen in
the front cockpit, you have another set of eyes as well as a navigator- all
at no extra charge!
>
>--------
>Oscar Zuniga
>Medford, OR
>Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
>A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488504#488504
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
made a few airplane parts this week. I got the part to slide over my axle to keep
my wheels from sliding in made and the brakes will attach to them. I am hoping
the bungees will be enough to keep it from rotating with the wheel one the
brakes are applied. I also got some more done on the wing. Now it is ready to
be flipped over so the plywood trim gusset can be put on the bottom.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488530#488530
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190404_132649_resized_147.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190404_132738_resized_163.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Brodhead anyone? |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
I'm in the same boat as Glen. My piet won't be ready, but if things work out I
may make it up to Brodhead in a 1930 Ford Model A.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488531#488531
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Glen Schweizer <glenschweizer(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
You will need some sort of attachment like a trailing arm to attach firmly to your
backing plate and then pivot on gear leg to keep your axle from spinning
when brake is applied. Good luck. Sounds like a great build so far
> On Apr 4, 2019, at 4:21 PM, cdlwingnut wrote:
>
>
> made a few airplane parts this week. I got the part to slide over my axle to
keep my wheels from sliding in made and the brakes will attach to them. I am hoping
the bungees will be enough to keep it from rotating with the wheel one the
brakes are applied. I also got some more done on the wing. Now it is ready
to be flipped over so the plywood trim gusset can be put on the bottom.
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488530#488530
>
>
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190404_132649_resized_147.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190404_132738_resized_163.jpg
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Clif Dawson" <cdawson5854(at)shaw.ca> |
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
There have been a number of us who have not welded stuff to
our axles. These pics show how my brake assy is kept from
rotating while compensating for the rise and fall of the axle.
I got the idea from someone else but can't find the pic. In
that case it was a cable holding the assy.
Clif
Heaven goes by favour. If it went by merit,
you would stay out and your dog would go in
>
> You will need some sort of attachment like a trailing arm to attach firmly
> to your backing plate and then pivot on gear leg to keep your axle from
> spinning when brake is applied. Good luck. Sounds like a great build so
> far
>> made a few airplane parts this week. I got the part to slide over my axle
>> to keep my wheels from sliding in made and the brakes will attach to
>> them.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Glen Schweizer <glenschweizer(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
Perfect!
> On Apr 4, 2019, at 8:43 PM, Clif Dawson wrote:
>
> There have been a number of us who have not welded stuff to
> our axles. These pics show how my brake assy is kept from
> rotating while compensating for the rise and fall of the axle.
> I got the idea from someone else but can't find the pic. In
> that case it was a cable holding the assy.
>
> Clif
> Heaven goes by favour. If it went by merit,
> you would stay out and your dog would go in
>
>
>
>
>> You will need some sort of attachment like a trailing arm to attach firmly to
your backing plate and then pivot on gear leg to keep your axle from spinning
when brake is applied. Good luck. Sounds like a great build so far
>
>>> made a few airplane parts this week. I got the part to slide over my axle to
keep my wheels from sliding in made and the brakes will attach to them.
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
I flipped the wing over and glued in the reinforcement parts where the ailerons
attach to the wing. Also glued on some of the plywood strips.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488563#488563
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190405_162642_resized_126.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190405_162652_resized_219.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | Kip Gardner <kipgohio1957(at)gmail.com> |
That is looking really good!
> On Apr 5, 2019, at 8:08 PM, cdlwingnut wrote:
>
>
> I flipped the wing over and glued in the reinforcement parts where the ailerons
attach to the wing. Also glued on some of the plywood strips.
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488563#488563
>
>
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190405_162642_resized_126.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190405_162652_resized_219.jpg
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | dndboyd2(at)gmail.com |
| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 04/03/19 |
Its a possibility. I plan to fly my Piet to Brodhead but I havent totally made
up my mind as to whether I want to go to Oshkosh this year or not.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Apr 4, 2019, at 1:40 AM, Pietenpol-List Digest Server
wrote:
>
> *
>
> =================================================
> Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive
> =================================================
>
> Today's complete Pietenpol-List Digest can also be found in either of the
> two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted
> in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes
> and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version
> of the Pietenpol-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor
> such as Notepad or with a web browser.
>
> HTML Version:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 19-04-03&Archive=Pietenpol
>
> Text Version:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 19-04-03&Archive=Pietenpol
>
>
> ===============================================
> EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive
> ===============================================
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Pietenpol-List Digest Archive
> ---
> Total Messages Posted Wed 04/03/19: 2
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Today's Message Index:
> ----------------------
>
> 1. 10:49 AM - Brodhead anyone? (Glen Schweizer)
> 2. 08:20 PM - Re: Brodhead anyone? (taildrags)
>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
>
>
> From: Glen Schweizer <glenschweizer(at)yahoo.com>
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead anyone?
>
>
> Finally I get to go to Brodhead and Oshkosh this year! Well be taking the motorhome
> instead of flying though because my pietenpol is no wheres near ready
> to fly. Well drive from Osh to Brodhead for the pietenpol gathering. I have an
> enormous favor to ask of anyone flying to Osh from Brodhead: I would beg, borrow,
> steal or contribute to your next project for a ride to Osh. Thanks. Glen
> Connect off list if interested in making this dream come true
> glenschweizer(at)yahoo.com
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
>
>
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead anyone?
> From: "taildrags" <taildrags(at)hotmail.com>
>
>
> I don't think Piet pilots realize what a sweet deal this could be. With a motorhome
> traveling along with you at pretty much the same pace, you can have a ground
> support crew, airport shuttle, first-aid station, and home-cooked hot grilled
> cheese sandwiches at every fuel stop ;o) Not only that, but with Glen in
> the front cockpit, you have another set of eyes as well as a navigator- all at
> no extra charge!
>
> --------
> Oscar Zuniga
> Medford, OR
> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
> A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488504#488504
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | No progress on Piet BUT |
I have personally stalled out on my Piet restoration. Several reasons, but
none really sufficient.
However, I can sure use your prayers, I do my CFI check ride Tuesday! I am
ready but quite nervous. The CFI check ride had the highest failure rate of
them all.
Upon getting my CFI I will refocus on finishing my Piet and moving it to my
current hangar.
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: No progress on Piet BUT |
| From: | "jarheadpilot82" <jarheadpilot82(at)hotmail.com> |
You will do fine, but our prayers are with you. Just CFI or CFII also?
--------
Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488572#488572
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jack Philips" <jack(at)bedfordlandings.com> |
| Subject: | No progress on Piet BUT |
Steve, The CFI checkride is the only one I=99ve ever failed.
Turns out, the Greensboro FSDO has an unwritten policy that NOBODY
passes the CFI checkride on their first attempt. They don=99t
want a bunch of cocky instructors running around. So they humble you.
I had gone all through the checkride nearly flawlessly, until the very
last item =93 a short field takeoff. I was flying a Cherokee
Arrow on a hot day and the darn thing just wouldn=99t climb. The
examiner failed me because I didn=99t retract the gear
immediately, helping it to climb. Of course, had I retracted the gear
immediately he would have failed me for retracting the gear before I had
established a positive rate of climb. They=99ll get you either
way. The good news is, when I went back (after =9Cremedial
instruction=9D), all I had to demonstrate was one short field
takeoff and I got the ticket.
Good luck!
Jack Phillips, CFI, CFII
Pietenpol NX899JP, currently flying
RV-10 N142KW, heading to the paint shop =93 should fly within a
month.
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steven
Dortch
Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2019 9:34 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: No progress on Piet BUT
I have personally stalled out on my Piet restoration. Several reasons,
but none really sufficient.
However, I can sure use your prayers, I do my CFI check ride Tuesday! I
am ready but quite nervous. The CFI check ride had the highest failure
rate of them all.
Upon getting my CFI I will refocus on finishing my Piet and moving it to
my current hangar.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: No progress on Piet BUT |
Just CFI. CFI I later.
On Sat, Apr 6, 2019, 9:37 AM jarheadpilot82
wrote:
> jarheadpilot82(at)hotmail.com>
>
> You will do fine, but our prayers are with you. Just CFI or CFII also?
>
> --------
> Semper Fi,
>
> Terry Hand
> Athens, GA
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488572#488572
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | William Geipel <l129bs(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: No progress on Piet BUT |
If he attempts to fail you on such a silly thing, make sure you ask him
to show you where in the reg=99s or in writing where it says that.
It has to be in writing.
They cannot make it up as they go. Then as I did, =9CI would like
to talk with your supervisor.=9D I didn=99t fail but he was
trying to tell me wrong information. His opinion.
When I asked him to prove it he got a little testy and said he might
just decide that I shouldn=99t pass after already debriefing and
congratulating me. They hold the key
to your airplane, but DON=99T let them feed you any BS. Side note:
I was a check airman with the airlines. My first time failing a pilot,
was our POI. FAA guy. You know what they
say about payback.. Felt goood! he was a nice guy, but you call
them as you see them. It was "clean kill=9D
You could say =9CI would really appreciate it if you would show me
the correct way to do it sir"
You=99ll be fine. Just have fun.
> On Apr 6, 2019, at 10:07, Jack Philips
wrote:
>
> Steve, The CFI checkride is the only one I=99ve ever failed.
Turns out, the Greensboro FSDO has an unwritten policy that NOBODY
passes the CFI checkride on their first attempt. They don=99t
want a bunch of cocky instructors running around. So they humble you.
>
> I had gone all through the checkride nearly flawlessly, until the very
last item =93 a short field takeoff. I was flying a Cherokee
Arrow on a hot day and the darn thing just wouldn=99t climb. The
examiner failed me because I didn=99t retract the gear
immediately, helping it to climb. Of course, had I retracted the gear
immediately he would have failed me for retracting the gear before I had
established a positive rate of climb. They=99ll get you either
way. The good news is, when I went back (after =9Cremedial
instruction=9D), all I had to demonstrate was one short field
takeoff and I got the ticket.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Jack Phillips, CFI, CFII
> Pietenpol NX899JP, currently flying
> RV-10 N142KW, heading to the paint shop =93 should fly within a
month.
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
] On Behalf Of Steven
Dortch
> Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2019 9:34 AM
> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: No progress on Piet BUT
>
> I have personally stalled out on my Piet restoration. Several reasons,
but none really sufficient.
>
> However, I can sure use your prayers, I do my CFI check ride Tuesday!
I am ready but quite nervous. The CFI check ride had the highest failure
rate of them all.
>
> Upon getting my CFI I will refocus on finishing my Piet and moving it
to my current hangar.
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: No progress on Piet BUT |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
you will do fine. Remember think your way though the questions. you can look up
the answers if you need to they want to know that you know your resources.
and remember it is never as bad as it is made out to be. don't listen to the horror
stories there is a lot of "man Chuck Yeager couldn't have passed that one
it was so hard" if they failed and "oh I am so good to have passed that tough
check ride" if they passed.
it will be a long day but there is a lot of stuff to cover all they want to do
is put a check in the bax and move on to the next item.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488580#488580
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
Thanks Kip
I finished the plywood strips on the wing and it is ready for the ailerons to be
installed. I cut and installed the plywood on the aileron making progress on
it.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488582#488582
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190406_102052_resized_256.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190406_102038_resized_308.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "danoliver" <danoliver909(at)gmail.com> |
Very nice!
I couldn't help but notice your wheels. If you don't mind me asking what are they
and what if any modifications did you do?
--------
Dan O
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488591#488591
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Clif Dawson" <cdawson5854(at)shaw.ca> |
OK, they're Suzuki 19" wheels. Pic one is the original wheel. The next pic
is the inner side flange machine off, the hole milled out to be large enough
to accept the 1" flange bearing I made. The next is the hub extension I
made to increase the distance between inner and outer bearings. The next
shows the inner face of same with cutout for the wheel flange. The final
pic is the finished wheel on the 1 1/2" axle shaft.
Because my lathe/mill isn't big enough to turn the hub flange off and bore
the bearing hole, that had to be done with the milling part of the combo.
Like your own Uncle Abe said, " Give me six hours to chop down a tree
and I will spend the first four sharpening the ax."
So I spent a LOT of time setting up that mill. Twice! :-)
Clif
"I don't want to go to heaven. None of my friends are there."
Oscar Wilde
> Very nice!
> I couldn't help but notice your wheels. If you don't mind me asking what
> are they and what if any modifications did you do?
>
> --------
> Dan O
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488591#488591
>
>
> ---
> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
> https://www.avg.com
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: No progress on Piet BUT |
Well, my last short field landing was bad!
But not so bad that I failed. I am America's newset CFI!
On Sat, Apr 6, 2019, 11:40 AM William Geipel wrote:
> If he attempts to fail you on such a silly thing, make sure you ask him t
o
> show you where in the reg=99s or in writing where it says that. It
has to be
> in writing.
> They cannot make it up as they go. Then as I did, =9CI would like t
o talk
> with your supervisor.=9D I didn=99t fail but he was trying to
tell me wrong
> information. His opinion.
> When I asked him to prove it he got a little testy and said he might just
> decide that I shouldn=99t pass after already debriefing and congrat
ulating
> me. They hold the key
> to your airplane, but DON=99T let them feed you any BS. Side note:
I was a
> check airman with the airlines. My first time failing a pilot, was our PO
I.
> FAA guy. You know what they
> say about payback.. Felt goood! he was a nice guy, but you call
them as
> you see them. It was "clean kill=9D
>
> You could say =9CI would really appreciate it if you would show me
the
> correct way to do it sir"
>
>
> You=99ll be fine. Just have fun.
>
>
> On Apr 6, 2019, at 10:07, Jack Philips wrote:
>
> Steve, The CFI checkride is the only one I=99ve ever failed. Turn
s out,
> the Greensboro FSDO has an unwritten policy that NOBODY passes the CFI
> checkride on their first attempt. They don=99t want a bunch of coc
ky
> instructors running around. So they humble you.
>
> I had gone all through the checkride nearly flawlessly, until the very
> last item =93 a short field takeoff. I was flying a Cherokee Arrow
on a hot
> day and the darn thing just wouldn=99t climb. The examiner failed
me because
> I didn=99t retract the gear immediately, helping it to climb. Of c
ourse, had
> I retracted the gear immediately he would have failed me for retracting t
he
> gear before I had established a positive rate of climb. They=99ll
get you
> either way. The good news is, when I went back (after =9Cremedial
> instruction=9D), all I had to demonstrate was one short field takeo
ff and I
> got the ticket.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Jack Phillips, CFI, CFII
> Pietenpol NX899JP, currently flying
> RV-10 N142KW, heading to the paint shop =93 should fly within a mon
th.
>
> *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [
> mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *Steven Dortch
> *Sent:* Saturday, April 6, 2019 9:34 AM
> *To:* pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
> *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: No progress on Piet BUT
>
> I have personally stalled out on my Piet restoration. Several reasons, bu
t
> none really sufficient.
>
> However, I can sure use your prayers, I do my CFI check ride Tuesday! I a
m
> ready but quite nervous. The CFI check ride had the highest failure rate
of
> them all.
>
> Upon getting my CFI I will refocus on finishing my Piet and moving it to
> my current hangar.
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | John Weber <ransfly(at)aol.com> |
| Subject: | Re: No progress on Piet BUT |
Congratulations! John Weber
Sent from my iPhone
> On Apr 9, 2019, at 7:46 PM, Steven Dortch wrot
e:
>
> Well, my last short field landing was bad!
>
> But not so bad that I failed. I am America's newset CFI!
>
>> On Sat, Apr 6, 2019, 11:40 AM William Geipel wrote:
>> If he attempts to fail you on such a silly thing, make sure you ask him t
o show you where in the reg=99s or in writing where it says that. It h
as to be in writing.
>> They cannot make it up as they go. Then as I did, =9CI would like t
o talk with your supervisor.=9D I didn=99t fail but he was tryin
g to tell me wrong information. His opinion.
>> When I asked him to prove it he got a little testy and said he might just
decide that I shouldn=99t pass after already debriefing and congratul
ating me. They hold the key
>> to your airplane, but DON=99T let them feed you any BS. Side note: I
was a check airman with the airlines. My first time failing a pilot, was ou
r POI. FAA guy. You know what they
>> say about payback.. Felt goood! he was a nice guy, but you call t
hem as you see them. It was "clean kill=9D
>>
>> You could say =9CI would really appreciate it if you would show me t
he correct way to do it sir"
>>
>>
>> You=99ll be fine. Just have fun.
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 6, 2019, at 10:07, Jack Philips wrote:
>>>
>>> Steve, The CFI checkride is the only one I=99ve ever failed. Tur
ns out, the Greensboro FSDO has an unwritten policy that NOBODY passes the C
FI checkride on their first attempt. They don=99t want a bunch of coc
ky instructors running around. So they humble you.
>>>
>>> I had gone all through the checkride nearly flawlessly, until the very l
ast item =93 a short field takeoff. I was flying a Cherokee Arrow on a
hot day and the darn thing just wouldn=99t climb. The examiner faile
d me because I didn=99t retract the gear immediately, helping it to cl
imb. Of course, had I retracted the gear immediately he would have failed m
e for retracting the gear before I had established a positive rate of climb.
They=99ll get you either way. The good news is, when I went back (a
fter =9Cremedial instruction=9D), all I had to demonstrate was o
ne short field takeoff and I got the ticket.
>>>
>>> Good luck!
>>>
>>> Jack Phillips, CFI, CFII
>>> Pietenpol NX899JP, currently flying
>>> RV-10 N142KW, heading to the paint shop =93 should fly within a mo
nth.
>>>
>>> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-
list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steven Dortch
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2019 9:34 AM
>>> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
>>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: No progress on Piet BUT
>>>
>>> I have personally stalled out on my Piet restoration. Several reasons, b
ut none really sufficient.
>>>
>>> However, I can sure use your prayers, I do my CFI check ride Tuesday! I a
m ready but quite nervous. The CFI check ride had the highest failure rate o
f them all.
>>>
>>> Upon getting my CFI I will refocus on finishing my Piet and moving it to
my current hangar.
>>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Bryan Nelson <ozzietx(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: No progress on Piet BUT |
Congratulations!!!
Sent from my iPhone
> On Apr 9, 2019, at 18:46, Steven Dortch wrote:
>
> Well, my last short field landing was bad!
>
> But not so bad that I failed. I am America's newset CFI!
>
>> On Sat, Apr 6, 2019, 11:40 AM William Geipel wrote:
>> If he attempts to fail you on such a silly thing, make sure you ask him t
o show you where in the reg=99s or in writing where it says that. It h
as to be in writing.
>> They cannot make it up as they go. Then as I did, =9CI would like t
o talk with your supervisor.=9D I didn=99t fail but he was tryin
g to tell me wrong information. His opinion.
>> When I asked him to prove it he got a little testy and said he might just
decide that I shouldn=99t pass after already debriefing and congratul
ating me. They hold the key
>> to your airplane, but DON=99T let them feed you any BS. Side note: I
was a check airman with the airlines. My first time failing a pilot, was ou
r POI. FAA guy. You know what they
>> say about payback.. Felt goood! he was a nice guy, but you call t
hem as you see them. It was "clean kill=9D
>>
>> You could say =9CI would really appreciate it if you would show me t
he correct way to do it sir"
>>
>>
>> You=99ll be fine. Just have fun.
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 6, 2019, at 10:07, Jack Philips wrote:
>>>
>>> Steve, The CFI checkride is the only one I=99ve ever failed. Tur
ns out, the Greensboro FSDO has an unwritten policy that NOBODY passes the C
FI checkride on their first attempt. They don=99t want a bunch of coc
ky instructors running around. So they humble you.
>>>
>>> I had gone all through the checkride nearly flawlessly, until the very l
ast item =93 a short field takeoff. I was flying a Cherokee Arrow on a
hot day and the darn thing just wouldn=99t climb. The examiner faile
d me because I didn=99t retract the gear immediately, helping it to cl
imb. Of course, had I retracted the gear immediately he would have failed m
e for retracting the gear before I had established a positive rate of climb.
They=99ll get you either way. The good news is, when I went back (a
fter =9Cremedial instruction=9D), all I had to demonstrate was o
ne short field takeoff and I got the ticket.
>>>
>>> Good luck!
>>>
>>> Jack Phillips, CFI, CFII
>>> Pietenpol NX899JP, currently flying
>>> RV-10 N142KW, heading to the paint shop =93 should fly within a mo
nth.
>>>
>>> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-
list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steven Dortch
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2019 9:34 AM
>>> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
>>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: No progress on Piet BUT
>>>
>>> I have personally stalled out on my Piet restoration. Several reasons, b
ut none really sufficient.
>>>
>>> However, I can sure use your prayers, I do my CFI check ride Tuesday! I a
m ready but quite nervous. The CFI check ride had the highest failure rate o
f them all.
>>>
>>> Upon getting my CFI I will refocus on finishing my Piet and moving it to
my current hangar.
>>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: No progress on Piet BUT |
| From: | "taildrags" <taildrags(at)hotmail.com> |
You da man, Steve! Now can I get a little bit of dual tailwheel time from you,
maybe some x-wind landings, wheel landings, and simulated dead-stick landings
on one of those breezy, gusty, bumpy south Texas afternoons when even the buzzards
are crabbing to their landings to fresh roadkill?
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488651#488651
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: No progress on Piet BUT |
Yesterday, it was starting to get hot and bumpy. Great. I start my teaching
career during the South Texas summer!
Other than teaching, finishing Texas Piet is my next goal.
On Tue, Apr 9, 2019, 10:06 PM taildrags wrote:
>
> You da man, Steve! Now can I get a little bit of dual tailwheel time from
> you, maybe some x-wind landings, wheel landings, and simulated dead-stick
> landings on one of those breezy, gusty, bumpy south Texas afternoons when
> even the buzzards are crabbing to their landings to fresh roadkill?
>
> --------
> Oscar Zuniga
> Medford, OR
> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
> A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488651#488651
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Gerrit-Jan Kaal <gjhkaal(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: No progress on Piet BUT |
Congratulations!
On Wed, 10 Apr 2019, 01:49 Steven Dortch, wrote
:
> Well, my last short field landing was bad!
>
> But not so bad that I failed. I am America's newset CFI!
>
> On Sat, Apr 6, 2019, 11:40 AM William Geipel wrote:
>
>> If he attempts to fail you on such a silly thing, make sure you ask him
>> to show you where in the reg=99s or in writing where it says that.
It has to
>> be in writing.
>> They cannot make it up as they go. Then as I did, =9CI would like
to talk
>> with your supervisor.=9D I didn=99t fail but he was trying t
o tell me wrong
>> information. His opinion.
>> When I asked him to prove it he got a little testy and said he might jus
t
>> decide that I shouldn=99t pass after already debriefing and congra
tulating
>> me. They hold the key
>> to your airplane, but DON=99T let them feed you any BS. Side note:
I was a
>> check airman with the airlines. My first time failing a pilot, was our P
OI.
>> FAA guy. You know what they
>> say about payback.. Felt goood! he was a nice guy, but you call
them as
>> you see them. It was "clean kill=9D
>>
>> You could say =9CI would really appreciate it if you would show me
the
>> correct way to do it sir"
>>
>>
>> You=99ll be fine. Just have fun.
>>
>>
>> On Apr 6, 2019, at 10:07, Jack Philips wrote:
>>
>> Steve, The CFI checkride is the only one I=99ve ever failed. Tur
ns out,
>> the Greensboro FSDO has an unwritten policy that NOBODY passes the CFI
>> checkride on their first attempt. They don=99t want a bunch of co
cky
>> instructors running around. So they humble you.
>>
>> I had gone all through the checkride nearly flawlessly, until the very
>> last item =93 a short field takeoff. I was flying a Cherokee Arro
w on a hot
>> day and the darn thing just wouldn=99t climb. The examiner failed
me because
>> I didn=99t retract the gear immediately, helping it to climb. Of
course, had
>> I retracted the gear immediately he would have failed me for retracting
the
>> gear before I had established a positive rate of climb. They=99ll
get you
>> either way. The good news is, when I went back (after =9Cremedial
>> instruction=9D), all I had to demonstrate was one short field take
off and I
>> got the ticket.
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>> Jack Phillips, CFI, CFII
>> Pietenpol NX899JP, currently flying
>> RV-10 N142KW, heading to the paint shop =93 should fly within a mo
nth.
>>
>> *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [
>> mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
>> ] *On Behalf Of *Steven Dortc
h
>> *Sent:* Saturday, April 6, 2019 9:34 AM
>> *To:* pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
>> *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: No progress on Piet BUT
>>
>> I have personally stalled out on my Piet restoration. Several reasons,
>> but none really sufficient.
>>
>> However, I can sure use your prayers, I do my CFI check ride Tuesday! I
>> am ready but quite nervous. The CFI check ride had the highest failure r
ate
>> of them all.
>>
>> Upon getting my CFI I will refocus on finishing my Piet and moving it to
>> my current hangar.
>>
>>
>>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: No progress on Piet BUT |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
Congrats. Now teach on the nice days and finish that piet when the weather grounds
you.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488666#488666
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Don Emch W&B Data, aka Cure for Insomnia |
| From: | "kratos" <steamcsgogrizzly(at)gmail.com> |
I haven`t been sleeping very well lately. Instead of drinking beer, I think to
try https://worldpharm365.com/product/etizolam-etilaam-etizest-2mg-buy-with-bitcoin/
Etizolam. As it is stated, this is not a sleeping in the normal sense of
the word, but the natural regulator of the sleep rhythms. No inhibition in the
morning, however, as well as no other side effects. What do you say?
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488712#488712
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "bradandlinda(at)tds.net" <bradandlinda(at)tds.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Don Emch W&B Data, aka Cure for Insomnia |
Insomnia isn't really that serious..it's certainly not worth loosing any sleep
over.
----- Original Message -----
From: kratos <steamcsgogrizzly(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Don Emch W&B Data, aka Cure for Insomnia
I haven`t been sleeping very well lately. Instead of drinking beer, I think to
try https://worldpharm365.com/product/etizolam-etilaam-etizest-2mg-buy-with-bitcoin/
Etizolam. As it is stated, this is not a sleeping in the normal sense of
the word, but the natural regulator of the sleep rhythms. No inhibition in the
morning, however, as well as no other side effects. What do you say?
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488712#488712
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Gerrit-Jan Kaal <gjhkaal(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Don Emch W&B Data, aka Cure for Insomnia |
Looks like a possible trojan/malware, with a link that contains references
to bitcoins.
On Sat, 13 Apr 2019 at 17:36, kratos wrote:
> >
>
> I haven`t been sleeping very well lately. Instead of drinking beer, I
> think to try
> https://worldpharm365.com/product/etizolam-etilaam-etizest-2mg-buy-with-bitcoin/
> Etizolam. As it is stated, this is not a sleeping in the normal sense of
> the word, but the natural regulator of the sleep rhythms. No inhibition in
> the morning, however, as well as no other side effects. What do you say?
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488712#488712
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Don Emch W&B Data, aka Cure for Insomnia |
I wasn't fooled. If you combine Bitcoin and a Pietenpol they spontaneously
combust!
On Sun, Apr 14, 2019, 2:15 AM Gerrit-Jan Kaal wrote:
> Looks like a possible trojan/malware, with a link that contains references
> to bitcoins.
>
> On Sat, 13 Apr 2019 at 17:36, kratos wrote:
>
>> steamcsgogrizzly(at)gmail.com>
>>
>> I haven`t been sleeping very well lately. Instead of drinking beer, I
>> think to try
>> https://worldpharm365.com/product/etizolam-etilaam-etizest-2mg-buy-with-bitcoin/
>> Etizolam. As it is stated, this is not a sleeping in the normal sense of
>> the word, but the natural regulator of the sleep rhythms. No inhibition in
>> the morning, however, as well as no other side effects. What do you say?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488712#488712
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ==========
>> br> enpol-List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">
>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
>> ==========
>> FORUMS -
>> eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com
>> ==========
>> WIKI -
>> errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com
>> ==========
>> b Site -
>> -Matt Dralle, List Admin.
>> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>> ==========
>>
>>
>>
>>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Water pump for Model A Ford engine? |
| From: | "JB Soar" <jbsoar(at)gmail.com> |
What are folks using for a water pump on the A Ford engine?
A washing machine pump seemed to be the best solution a few years back...
Thank you!
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488820#488820
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
progress is slowing down due to the better weather making so other projects have
to be done and allowing for more flying. I have been able to make some progress
on the aileron though. the wood is glued to the back of the plywood now ready
for the gusset strips
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488948#488948
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190425_161051_resized_540.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | POLY FIBRE Covering Kit |
| From: | "John Black" <john(at)jcblack.com> |
POLY FIBRE COVERING KIT for Pietenpol. 6'x100' roll of fabric, 6 Gallons 8500 Retarder,
7 Gallons PolyTone Finish (120 Datona White tinted to light tan), 8 Gallons
PolySpray, 7 Gallons PolyBrush, 2 Quarts Fabric Cement, and Poly Fiber
System Manual. All in unopened packaging. Originally delivered in June 2016...
Make ANY offer. I have already started covering with another system so I will
not use these materials which came with a project that I bought. I want this
out of my hangar. Located at Anacortes, WA. Can you use it ?
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488969#488969
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: POLY FIBRE Covering Kit |
| From: | "John Black" <john(at)jcblack.com> |
The POLY FIBRE COVERING KIT now has a new owner.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488973#488973
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
i glued the 1.5mm plywood strips to the bottom of the aileron
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488978#488978
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190426_150339_resized_162.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
I finished installing the cross braces for the aileron and attached the plywood
on the other side. The aileron is now ready for varnish and the hinges. I had
a little more time so i took a piece of aluminum angle and fabricated a heel
brake peddle. We will see how it works.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489015#489015
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190429_153028_resized_148.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190429_143603_resized_451.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | New FlyCorvair Youtube Channel |
| From: | "jarheadpilot82" <jarheadpilot82(at)hotmail.com> |
For those of you who may be interested in flying in you Pietenpol behind a Corvair
engine, or may just be curious, there is a new tool to help you. William Wynne
has created a FlyCorvair Youtube channel with tons of information already
on it with much more to follow. Click on the link below for a more complete introduction
to this great new tool -
https://flycorvair.net/2019/05/03/our-new-youtube-channel/
--------
Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489077#489077
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
with one wing down i started assembly of the right wing. I got the ribs glued to
the spars. I also made 2 more brake peddles, why 2 more because i made one then
found out I forgot to reverse it and had a 2nd left peddle when i was done
so i had to reverse it and make one more to get a right one.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489117#489117
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190506_143906_resized_175.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190506_143855_resized_188.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Mike Wissing <oregonwissing(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 05/05/19 |
Please unsubscribe me
Sent from my iPhone
> On May 5, 2019, at 11:39 PM, Pietenpol-List Digest Server
wrote:
>
> *
>
> =================================================
> Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive
> =================================================
>
> Today's complete Pietenpol-List Digest can also be found in either of the
> two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted
> in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes
> and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version
> of the Pietenpol-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor
> such as Notepad or with a web browser.
>
> HTML Version:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 19-05-05&Archive=Pietenpol
>
> Text Version:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 19-05-05&Archive=Pietenpol
>
>
> ===============================================
> EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive
> ===============================================
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Pietenpol-List Digest Archive
> ---
> Total Messages Posted Sun 05/05/19: 0
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Today's Message Index:
> ----------------------
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
the compression and drag braces are now glued in place and i put the finishing
touches on the brake peddles.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489139#489139
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190508_144547_resized_299.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190508_144543_resized_214.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190508_115351_resized_545.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190508_115338_resized_109.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: cozy girls?? |
Actually, it is much more difficult to date with a girl on the street. Girls have a belief that it is indecently to date on the street. So you can hear the phrases like: "I don`t date on the street" or even (http://lookingforbrides.net/) "I have a boyfriend". But what should you do, if you saw a really beautiful girl on the street or on parking?! You may try to find her on the Internet - there is even a chance that she uses the same dating site as you.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489144#489144
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 05/08/19 |
| From: | dndboyd2(at)gmail.com |
Awesome. Looking forward to seeing you fly.
Sent from my iPhone
> On May 9, 2019, at 1:40 AM, Pietenpol-List Digest Server
wrote:
>
> *
>
> =================================================
> Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive
> =================================================
>
> Today's complete Pietenpol-List Digest can also be found in either of the
> two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted
> in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes
> and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version
> of the Pietenpol-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor
> such as Notepad or with a web browser.
>
> HTML Version:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 19-05-08&Archive=Pietenpol
>
> Text Version:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 19-05-08&Archive=Pietenpol
>
>
> ===============================================
> EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive
> ===============================================
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Pietenpol-List Digest Archive
> ---
> Total Messages Posted Wed 05/08/19: 1
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Today's Message Index:
> ----------------------
>
> 1. 06:00 PM - Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet (cdlwingnut)
>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
>
>
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet
> From: "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com>
>
>
> the compression and drag braces are now glued in place and i put the finishing
> touches on the brake peddles.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489139#489139
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190508_144547_resized_299.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190508_144543_resized_214.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190508_115351_resized_545.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190508_115338_resized_109.jpg
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 05/08/19 |
| From: | dndboyd2(at)gmail.com |
Awesome. Looking forward to seeing you fly.
Sent from my iPhone
> On May 9, 2019, at 1:40 AM, Pietenpol-List Digest Server
wrote:
>
> *
>
> =================================================
> Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive
> =================================================
>
> Today's complete Pietenpol-List Digest can also be found in either of the
> two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted
> in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes
> and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version
> of the Pietenpol-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor
> such as Notepad or with a web browser.
>
> HTML Version:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 19-05-08&Archive=Pietenpol
>
> Text Version:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 19-05-08&Archive=Pietenpol
>
>
> ===============================================
> EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive
> ===============================================
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Pietenpol-List Digest Archive
> ---
> Total Messages Posted Wed 05/08/19: 1
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Today's Message Index:
> ----------------------
>
> 1. 06:00 PM - Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet (cdlwingnut)
>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
>
>
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet
> From: "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com>
>
>
> the compression and drag braces are now glued in place and i put the finishing
> touches on the brake peddles.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489139#489139
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190508_144547_resized_299.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190508_144543_resized_214.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190508_115351_resized_545.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190508_115338_resized_109.jpg
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
move things around the shop a little today and did some cleaning. the fuselage
is out of the little room and in the bigger part of the shop and the wing i am
nearly finished on it in the little room the second wing is off the table and
in the bigger part of the shop ready for the nose ribs, leading edge plywood,
and all the fiddly stuff. I cut out the nose ribs.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489155#489155
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190509_141226_resized_191.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190509_153106_resized_184.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190509_141244_resized_193.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "taildrags" <taildrags(at)hotmail.com> |
I would be interested to know what the uncovered, finished wing weighs. Pick it
up and stand on your bathroom scales, then get on the scales and subtract your
weight without the wing.
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489161#489161
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Kip Gardner <kipgohio1957(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
Looking good! Are you going to try to make it a legal ultralight or
register it as a certificated aircraft? Once I get started on mine,
I=99m planning on registering it as a certificated LSA, in part
because my life insurance has a specific exclusion for dying in an
Ultralight accident, Lol.
> On May 9, 2019, at 10:52 PM, cdlwingnut
wrote:use
>
>
> move things around the shop a little today and did some cleaning. the
fuselage is out of the little room and in the bigger part of the shop
and the wing i am nearly finished on it in the little room the second
wing is off the table and in the bigger part of the shop ready for the
nose ribs, leading edge plywood, and all the fiddly stuff. I cut out the
nose ribs.
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489155#489155
>
>
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190509_141226_resized_191.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190509_153106_resized_184.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190509_141244_resized_193.jpg
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
taildrag that is a good idea I will give that a try, I am guessing somewhere in
the 15 to 20 pound range but i may be wrong
Kip mine ia alreasy registered being mostly Douglas Fir and with a rotax 503 it
wont make the ultra-light weight limits
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489166#489166
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | Mike <oregonwissing(at)yahoo.com> |
Please take me off this list.
Regards
Mike
Sent from my iPad
> On May 9, 2019, at 7:52 PM, cdlwingnut wrote:
>
>
> move things around the shop a little today and did some cleaning. the fuselage
is out of the little room and in the bigger part of the shop and the wing i
am nearly finished on it in the little room the second wing is off the table and
in the bigger part of the shop ready for the nose ribs, leading edge plywood,
and all the fiddly stuff. I cut out the nose ribs.
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489155#489155
>
>
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190509_141226_resized_191.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190509_153106_resized_184.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190509_141244_resized_193.jpg
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Paul Siegel <psiegel(at)fuse.net> |
| Subject: | After on and off 12 yrs of build, NX6XU finally gets airborne |
Follow this link to YouTube (long) video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEa_LAaRanw&feature=youtu.be
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: After on and off 12 yrs of build, NX6XU finally gets |
airborn
| From: | "taildrags" <taildrags(at)hotmail.com> |
EXCELLENT!!! Really nice airplane, great piloting!
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC, A75 power
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489207#489207
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Michael Cuy <michaelcuy1(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: After on and off 12 yrs of build, NX6XU finally gets |
airborne
*Fantastic accomplishment, Paul! It was meant to BE! (Martha Lunken
inspired) Love your comment at the end about how you were nervous a bit
over*
*this first flight for a long time. You've got that under your belt
now---let the real fun BEGIN!!!*
*All the best!*
*Michael Cuy*
*NX48MC*
On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 12:45 PM Paul Siegel wrote:
>
> Follow this link to YouTube (long) video
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEa_LAaRanw&feature=youtu.be
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: After on and off 12 yrs of build, NX6XU finally gets |
airborn
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
great job thanks for sharing this
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489217#489217
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Jim Butler <jimb131(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 05/13/19 |
Congratulations
Beautiful Piet
On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 2:42 AM Pietenpol-List Digest Server <
pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> wrote:
> *
>
> =================================================
> Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive
> =================================================
>
> Today's complete Pietenpol-List Digest can also be found in either of the
> two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted
> in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes
> and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version
> of the Pietenpol-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor
> such as Notepad or with a web browser.
>
> HTML Version:
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 19-05-13&Archive=Pietenpol
>
> Text Version:
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 19-05-13&Archive=Pietenpol
>
>
> ===============================================
> EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive
> ===============================================
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Pietenpol-List Digest Archive
> ---
> Total Messages Posted Mon 05/13/19: 2
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Today's Message Index:
> ----------------------
>
> 1. 09:42 AM - After on and off 12 yrs of build, NX6XU finally gets
> airborne (Paul Siegel)
> 2. 08:38 PM - Re: After on and off 12 yrs of build, NX6XU finally
> gets airborn (taildrags)
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 1
> _____________________________________
>
>
> From: Paul Siegel <psiegel(at)fuse.net>
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: After on and off 12 yrs of build, NX6XU finally
> gets airborne
>
>
> Follow this link to YouTube (long) video
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEa_LAaRanw&feature=youtu.be
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 2
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: After on and off 12 yrs of build, NX6XU
> finally gets
> airborn
> From: "taildrags" <taildrags(at)hotmail.com>
>
>
> EXCELLENT!!! Really nice airplane, great piloting!
>
> Oscar Zuniga
> Medford, OR
> Air Camper NX41CC, A75 power
>
> --------
> Oscar Zuniga
> Medford, OR
> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
> A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489207#489207
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: After on and off 12 yrs of build, NX6XU finally gets |
airborn
| From: | "oldbird" <semihoksay(at)gmail.com> |
Great bird!
I have been building mine for 10 years now and I am looking forward to join yo
soon.
Semih Oksay
Istanbul, Turkey
90 Hp Continental C90-9F
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489256#489256
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "skipgadd(at)earthlink.net" <skipgadd(at)earthlink.net> |
I have a not used GA 30-612 Riblet rib jig that needs to be out of the shop. It
is free but you need to come get in the Dayton OH area or pay for shipping. It
is 12 lbs. and 66"X 10"X 1 1/2". Also have the wood cut for one rib.
Skip
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "jarheadpilot82" <jarheadpilot82(at)hotmail.com> |
Skip, IF no one claims it, let me know and I will pay to ship it to my house. Just
because no one needs it today, doesn't mean it won't be needed later. That
is too nice a deal to let it be lost.
Just let me know.
--------
Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489265#489265
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "skipgadd(at)earthlink.net" <skipgadd(at)earthlink.net> |
Terry, Will do.
Skip
-----Original Message-----
>From: jarheadpilot82 <jarheadpilot82(at)hotmail.com>
>Sent: May 17, 2019 8:32 AM
>To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: rib jig
>
>
>Skip, IF no one claims it, let me know and I will pay to ship it to my house.
Just because no one needs it today, doesn't mean it won't be needed later. That
is too nice a deal to let it be lost.
>
>Just let me know.
>
>--------
>Semper Fi,
>
>Terry Hand
>Athens, GA
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489265#489265
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Patricia's Pietenpol flies ! |
Hello Everyone,
My Piet just got a radio. An MGL V6, the tiniest radio I've ever seen !
See photo - it's on the far right of the panel, just to the right of the
primer. Also installed new windshields and vertical card compass.
Cheers,
Patricia
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489310#489310
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/tn_img_2081_747.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/tn_img_2079_177.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Patricia's Pietenpol flies ! |
| From: | "taildrags" <taildrags(at)hotmail.com> |
Patricia; that's a mighty loaded panel you have there. Nice stuff!
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489314#489314
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Comcast <4rcsimmons(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 05/20/19 |
Very nice!
- Rich
> On May 21, 2019, at 1:39 AM, Pietenpol-List Digest Server
wrote:
>
> *
>
> =================================================
> Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive
> =================================================
>
> Today's complete Pietenpol-List Digest can also be found in either of the
> two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted
> in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes
> and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version
> of the Pietenpol-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor
> such as Notepad or with a web browser.
>
> HTML Version:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 19-05-20&Archive=Pietenpol
>
> Text Version:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 19-05-20&Archive=Pietenpol
>
>
> ===============================================
> EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive
> ===============================================
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Pietenpol-List Digest Archive
> ---
> Total Messages Posted Mon 05/20/19: 2
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Today's Message Index:
> ----------------------
>
> 1. 02:39 PM - Re: Patricia's Pietenpol flies ! (pjb)
> 2. 07:51 PM - Re: Patricia's Pietenpol flies ! (taildrags)
>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
>
>
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Patricia's Pietenpol flies !
> From: "pjb" <pjb@ornithopter-pilot.com>
>
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> My Piet just got a radio. An MGL V6, the tiniest radio I've ever seen !
> See photo - it's on the far right of the panel, just to the right of the
> primer. Also installed new windshields and vertical card compass.
>
> Cheers,
> Patricia
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489310#489310
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/tn_img_2081_747.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/tn_img_2079_177.jpg
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
>
>
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Patricia's Pietenpol flies !
> From: "taildrags" <taildrags(at)hotmail.com>
>
>
> Patricia; that's a mighty loaded panel you have there. Nice stuff!
>
> --------
> Oscar Zuniga
> Medford, OR
> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
> A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489314#489314
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
the rain gave me some time to work in the shop today. I got the nose ribs glued
on and the leading edge plywood for the center section measured and cut. It is
now clamped and strapped to the leading edge to form before being varnished
and glued in place.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489355#489355
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190524_120421_resized_389.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190524_120426_resized_152.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190524_120416_resized_298.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
the leading edge and aileron spare are glued in place now, as well as the wingtip
dowel.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489366#489366
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190525_093114_resized_135.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190525_093118_resized_425.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "taildrags" <taildrags(at)hotmail.com> |
All I know is, those landing gear legs with the light blue fairings look WAYYY
too big for your Ultra-Piet!
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NC41CC, A75 power
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489371#489371
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
I don't know they might look good with a set of spoked wheels on them
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489377#489377
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Corvair Campers with wood props |
| From: | "taildrags" <taildrags(at)hotmail.com> |
Here's a question for those of you who are flying a Corvair-powered Air Camper
with a wood prop. What diameter and pitch prop are you flying? I've got through
the photos such as on the Westcoastpiet site and Flycorvair, but there isn't
much prop information given. I'm fairly certain that people like Shad Bell,
Hans Van der Voort, P.F. Beck, and one or more of the Big Piets all fly (or
flew) with wood props.
A builder has asked me for the information so he can get a better idea of what
to look for when he acquires a prop for his CorvAir Camper.
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
NX41CC, A75 power
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489378#489378
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
I have been varnishing the area on the center wing section and the area on the
wing where the leading edge plywood wrap will go and getting the center leading
edge wrap varnished.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489398#489398
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
got some T-88 mixed up over lunch and glued the leading edge plywood to the center
section.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489504#489504
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190604_134715_resized_206.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
with the hectic summer schedule the little piet hasn't gotten the attention it
should be getting. I did get a few minutes to get the plywood gusset strips cut
and glued to the top of the center section.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489616#489616
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190611_130154_resized_579.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
the plywood strips for the bottom are cut and glued in place
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489637#489637
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190612_144157_resized_276.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
progress has slowed down with work getting pretty busy, I suppose it is the flying
season not the building season. I did get the trailing edge installed and
one of the leading edge plywood pieces soaked, clamped, and strapped in place
to pre-bend it.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489729#489729
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190618_174959_resized_1_976.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190618_172104_resized_203.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "taildrags" <taildrags(at)hotmail.com> |
You sure do keep at it! Fun to watch it come together. What do you plan to power
it with?
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489730#489730
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
Taildrag: I have a rotax 503 to hang on the nose, but i have a plan to install
it so it kind of looks like a piet with a model A engine, we will see if my plan
works or not hopefully soon.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489744#489744
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "taildrags" <taildrags(at)hotmail.com> |
Kinda depends on whether it mounts inverted with the cylinder head down on the
bottom (probably gives the best thrust line orientation to the top longerons),
or if it installs upright with the head and plugs on top. If you install it
that way, the engine will probably have to sit pretty tall to get the engine thrust
line where it needs to be.
Alternatively, you could creep up a little bit from your 50HP 503 and hang a Rec
Power 2-cyl, 2-stroke 625cc on it for 60HP and water-cooled, so you could keep
the authentic Ford look with the radiator up in front of you ;o)
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC, A75 power
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489748#489748
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/2stroke_307.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
my plan is to mount it upright and use a belt reduction drive. so it will sit high
lit the model A engine.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489750#489750
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Clif Dawson" <cdawson5854(at)shaw.ca> |
"The journey," wrote Basho, "itself is my home."
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Chris Tracy <catdesigns(at)att.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Basho-journey |
That is quite the propeller. Did you make it?
Chris
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
On Sun, Jun 23, 2019 at 10:44 PM, Clif Dawson wrote:
=C2-=C2-=C2-=9CThe journey,=9D wrote Bash=C5=8D,
=9Citself is my home.=9D
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Clif Dawson" <cdawson5854(at)shaw.ca> |
| Subject: | Re: Basho-journey |
Yes I did. Now for the final finishing.
Oh, it's 76" dia., Birch.
Shape is copy of Paragon prop used
on many of the Jenny's.
Clif.
That is quite the propeller. Did you make it?
Chris
wrote:
=9CThe journey,=9D wrote Bash=C5=8D, =9Citself is
my home.=9D
Virus-free. www.avg.com
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | William Geipel <l129bs(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Basho-journey |
my kind of guy. Chainsaw!!
> On Jun 24, 2019, at 16:04, Clif Dawson wrote:
>
> Yes I did. Now for the final finishing.
> Oh, it's 76" dia., Birch.
> Shape is copy of Paragon prop used
> on many of the Jenny's.
>
> Clif.
>> That is quite the propeller. Did you make it?
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>> > wrote:
>>> =9CThe journey,=9D wrote Bash=C5=8D
<http://www.art-quotes.com/auth_search.php?authid=215#.XQvs8tNKjOQ>,
=9Citself is my home.=9D
>>
>>
>>
<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&u
tm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=oa-4885-a>
Virus-free. www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com/>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Jack Textor <jack(at)textors.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Basho-journey |
Really coming along Cliff!
Jack Textor
Sent from my iPad
> On Jun 24, 2019, at 12:41 AM, Clif Dawson wrote:
>
>
>
> =9CThe journey,=9D wrote Bash=C5=8D, =9Citself is my ho
me.=9D
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Basho-journey |
| From: | "jarheadpilot82" <jarheadpilot82(at)hotmail.com> |
Cliff,
Your prop looks nice, but I had just a few questions. Maybe no one has asked you,
but I thought that I should -
1. Is that solid tubing line shown arcing down your actual fuel line, or is that
temporary set up? In the event of an off-field landing, I am concerned that
the line as built will fail, showering any front seat passenger with fuel. What
are your thoughts on that?
2. Have you done at least a preliminary weight and balance? Your cabanes appear
to be vertical, with a lighter Continental engine. That combination typically
puts a pilot at or beyond the aft CG limit of 20 inches that Bernard Pietenpol
himself said was the furthest aft the CG should ever be.
3. Where is the center of your axle in relation to the datum (the leading edge)?
I can't really tell from the photo.
4. Have you considered the strength of your diagonal cabanes in the event of the
possible off-field landing I mentioned earlier? They don't appear to be strong
enough to survive the force of an off-field landing and they could collapse
much like William Wynne's aircraft did at the time of his accident.
https://flycorvair.net/2013/12/19/pietenpol-fuel-lines-and-cabanes/
https://flycorvair.net/2013/12/20/fuel-lines-and-cabanes-part-2/
I hope that you will take the questions in the spirit that they are given. Your
craftsmanship is very good. I am just wondering if you have looked at worst case
scenarios in some of your design decisions.
--------
Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489801#489801
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Glen Schweizer <glenschweizer(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Basho-journey |
Beautiful prop. Is that a 65 or 85 horse continental?
> On Jun 23, 2019, at 10:41 PM, Clif Dawson wrote:
>
>
>
> =9CThe journey,=9D wrote Bash=C5=8D, =9Citself is my ho
me.=9D
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Basho-journey |
| From: | "tkreiner" <tkreiner(at)gmail.com> |
Guys,
The engine is a Lycoming, NOT a Continental; displacement, weight, and Hp all unknown
to us...
--------
Tom Kreiner
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489806#489806
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Glen Schweizer <glenschweizer(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Basho-journey |
I thought it was cont. flywheel and starter mounting says lycoming
> On Jun 24, 2019, at 1:10 PM, tkreiner wrote:
>
>
> Guys,
>
> The engine is a Lycoming, NOT a Continental; displacement, weight, and Hp all
unknown to us...
>
> --------
> Tom Kreiner
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489806#489806
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Basho-journey |
| From: | "jarheadpilot82" <jarheadpilot82(at)hotmail.com> |
Tom,
Okay, I stand corrected. By the question is the same - has a good weight and balance
been done? The other questions still stand, regardless of power plant.
--------
Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489816#489816
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
i opened up the can of varnish and put a coat on the upper part of the center section
and the inside of the leading edge plywood piece that has been clamped
to the leading edge to form.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489818#489818
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190624_185151_resized_116.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Basho-journey |
| From: | "taildrags" <taildrags(at)hotmail.com> |
To those with questions about Clif Dawson's airplane or his work, I would recommend
spending some time reviewing the photos of it that are on Westcoastpiet.com
in the Pictures section, under Clif's name. Or, if you want to learn about
tools and techniques and a bit about philosophy and life, take the time to go
through the build photos and narratives that Clif has generously and thoughtfully
shared with the world on his website, here-
http://www.clifdawson.ca/Homepage4-10-06/Pietenpol.html . The engine is a Lycoming O-290, and knowing Clif, my guess is that it's placed right where he wants it.
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489819#489819
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Clif Dawson" <cdawson5854(at)shaw.ca> |
| Subject: | Re: Basho-journey |
Ah, Boys, yes they do.
So, That thing is an O-290. It weighs pretty damn close to the original
model A
when you add in water and radiator.
The preliminary W&B, with my weight and calculated fabric and paint weight
and location factored in I'm looking at a CG of 18". Passenger and fuel
hardly
matter as they're both so close to the CG, less than another half inch. If
I
REALLY wanted to it would be nothing to push the wing back a half inch or
so.
Now, the fuel line. Why did I route it in that straight, gentle curve from
the
tank to the mounting bracket just inside the engine cowl? Well, I did read
William's account when he first wrote it. If I was to encounter that brick
wall
scenario and the wing did collapse foreward that soft line will "roll" and
bend
foreward without breaking or rupturing except possibly at the support
foreward
of the firewall. Also the fuel tank shut off is just above the windscreen
with
a really big knob staring right at me in easy reach without even leaning
foreward.
Would I not reach for that as soon as the big cooling fan quit turning and
I'd
exhausted all the restart options? Assuming I'm in the pilots seat unlike
William.
The foreward diagonals have been geometrically designed to direct any
collapsing force right down the center line of the tubes and all three bolt
connections. Those tubes are heavy walled as well. Again, thought out
after that nose dive. It would be somewhat difficult to weld the wood
cabanes. :-)
Clif
>
>
> Tom,
>
> Okay, I stand corrected. By the question is the same - has a good weight
> and balance been done? The other questions still stand, regardless of
> power plant.
>
> --------
> Semper Fi,
>
> Terry Hand
> Athens, GA
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Slave to fashion |
| From: | "LecrameMark" <lecramermark(at)yahoo.com> |
I bought for my wife and daughter leather helmets and they are very good quality.
I started to buy clothes and other things from Lily Lulu Fashion . Till now
the quality is good, my wife can't wear anything except cotton and leather ))
Best gift with different opportunities and features.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489823#489823
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Basho-journey |
| From: | "jarheadpilot82" <jarheadpilot82(at)hotmail.com> |
Cliff,
Thanks for the explanations.
--------
Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489832#489832
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | helspersew(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Basho-journey |
Hi Cliff,Wow I love that prop! Did you carve it? Excellent!!
Dan HelsperLoensloe AirfieldPuryear, TN
-----Original Message-----
From: Clif Dawson <cdawson5854(at)shaw.ca>
Sent: Mon, Jun 24, 2019 12:44 am
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Basho-journey
=C2-=C2-=C2-=9CThe journey,=9D wrote Bash=C5=8D,
=9Citself is my home.=9D
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Clif Dawson" <cdawson5854(at)shaw.ca> |
| Subject: | Re: Basho-journey |
Thanks Oscar.
Clif
>
> To those with questions about Clif Dawson's airplane or his work, I would
> recommend spending some time reviewing the photos of it that are on
> Westcoastpiet.com in the Pictures section, under Clif's name. Or, if you
> want to learn about tools and techniques and a bit about philosophy and
> life, take the time to go through the build photos and narratives that
> Clif has generously and thoughtfully shared with the world on his website,
> here-
>
> http://www.clifdawson.ca/Homepage4-10-06/Pietenpol.html . The engine is a
> Lycoming O-290, and knowing Clif, my guess is that it's placed right where
> he wants it.
>
> --------
> Oscar Zuniga
> Medford, OR
> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
> A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Clif Dawson" <cdawson5854(at)shaw.ca> |
| Subject: | Re: Basho-journey |
Your welcome Terry.
Clif
> Cliff,
>
> Thanks for the explanations.
>
> --------
> Semper Fi,
>
> Terry Hand
> Athens, GA
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Clif Dawson" <cdawson5854(at)shaw.ca> |
| Subject: | Re: Basho-journey |
Yes I did, er, am. It's not finished yet. I just bought
some fiberglass for the tips. I'll cover the entire blade
width from the tips in 14" and paint that the same
almond colour as the wings and tail will be. I was
watching these Sopwith Snipe vids the other day and
really like that prop finish except for that large amount
of painted area. I'll have much more wood showing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VK1OVjloSSY
Clif
Hi Cliff,
Wow I love that prop! Did you carve it? Excellent!!
Dan Helsper
Loensloe Airfield
Puryear, TN
Virus-free. www.avg.com
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Clif Dawson" <cdawson5854(at)shaw.ca> |
| Subject: | Re: Basho-journey |
Your welcome Terry.
Clif
> Cliff,
>
> Thanks for the explanations.
>
> --------
> Semper Fi,
>
> Terry Hand
> Athens, GA
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Michael Perez <speedbrake(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | ELT Recommendation |
Hello Crew. I am in need of an ELT and would like some experiences with them and
recommendations for purchase. (New, used, 121.5, 406...)
Also, how about some mounting location ideas.
Much obliged.
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
i got the second coat of varnish on the inside of the piece of leading edge plywood.
Holes were drilled in the strut brackets and the spar to attach them and
then the holes in the spar and the area where the brackets go was varnished.
Spent quite a bit of time in the shop but mostly worked on small fiddly stuff.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489876#489876
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "taildrags" <taildrags(at)hotmail.com> |
When you boil it all down, the entire airplane is built by just a long series of
little fiddly stuff!
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489877#489877
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Clif Dawson" <cdawson5854(at)shaw.ca> |
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
Ain't that the truth!!
Clif
>
> When you boil it all down, the entire airplane is built by just a long
> series of little fiddly stuff!
>
> --------
> Oscar Zuniga
> Medford, OR
> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
> A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
taildrags wrote:
> When you boil it all down, the entire airplane is built by just a long series
of little fiddly stuff!
Very true taildrags Lots of small fiddly jobs.
today T-88 was mixed and the piece of leading edge plywood glued in place.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489890#489890
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190627_151242_resized_163.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: ELT Recommendation |
| From: | "taildrags" <taildrags(at)hotmail.com> |
Mike; my Air Camper has a Narco ELT, I believe it's the ELT-10, 121.5 Mhz only,
one of the simplest and most ubiquitous ELTs from days gone by. It has its own
little fold-out antenna so it could ostensibly be removed from the airplane
after a crash and used as a personal-carry locator with the antenna extended.
The battery has a mandatory 2-yr replacement and a battery costs $34.50 from
Chief Aircraft and others. I test it regularly and it works, but I have as much
expectation of anyone ever locating it or my downed aircraft as I do of winning
the Powerball this Saturday. I installed it and maintain it on the aircraft
to meet the requirement that an operational ELT be carried onboard my 2-place
aircraft. I don't believe that an ELT is required for single-place aircraft
like the Sky Scout.
When I got 41CC, Corky had the ELT installed on the floorboard all the way up between
the passenger's rudder pedals, and from every recommendation that I've
ever seen, that is not a good location. Best location is behind the rear seat
in the empennage, securely mounted to the structure, so that's where I moved
it to after my airplane went over on its nose and I had to rebuild things. I
mounted a flat piece of aluminum on the bottom inside the empennage where I can
inspect it and reach the test switch by opening the access door in the headrest
area, and then mounted a fixed ELT whip antenna to that ground plane and connected
the ELT using the BNC connector and a short piece of coax. My understanding
is that the tailcone of an aircraft usually stays intact in a crash even
thought the firewall forward, cockpit, wings, and gear may not. Also, an engine
fire is not as likely to spread to the tailcone. Or so they say.
I found that the original ELT in the airplane wouldn't have activated in the nose-over
anyway... battery corrosion had eaten up a lot of the electronics and
battery terminals inside it when I opened it to inspect why it hadn't gone off.
It looked good on the outside, but did nothing useful. I suppose if you want
an ELT that will actually do some good locating your downed airplane, you should
get one that works on 406Mhz where the satellites are listening. Nobody
listens to 121.5 anymore.
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489893#489893
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Michael Perez <speedbrake(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | Re: ELT Recommendation |
Thank you Oscar. I want something cheap to meet the requirements...I plan
to also have on me a personal locating beacon if venturing a way from my ho
me base.=C2-
il.com> wrote:
Mike; my Air Camper has a Narco ELT, I believe it's the ELT-10, 121.5 Mhz o
nly, one of the simplest and most ubiquitous ELTs from days gone by.=C2-
It has its own little fold-out antenna so it could ostensibly be removed fr
om the airplane after a crash and used as a personal-carry locator with the
antenna extended.=C2- The battery has a mandatory 2-yr replacement and a
battery costs $34.50 from Chief Aircraft and others.=C2- I test it regul
arly and it works, but I have as much expectation of anyone ever locating i
t or my downed aircraft as I do of winning the Powerball this Saturday.=C2
- I installed it and maintain it on the aircraft to meet the requirement
that an operational ELT be carried onboard my 2-place aircraft.=C2- I don
't believe that an ELT is required for single-place aircraft like the Sky S
cout.
When I got 41CC, Corky had the ELT installed on the floorboard all the way
up between the passenger's rudder pedals, and from every recommendation tha
t I've ever seen, that is not a good location.=C2- Best location is behin
d the rear seat in the empennage, securely mounted to the structure, so tha
t's where I moved it to after my airplane went over on its nose and I had t
o rebuild things.=C2- I mounted a flat piece of aluminum on the bottom in
side the empennage where I can inspect it and reach the test switch by open
ing the access door in the headrest area, and then mounted a fixed ELT whip
antenna to that ground plane and connected the ELT using the BNC connector
and a short piece of coax.=C2- My understanding is that the tailcone of
an aircraft usually stays intact in a crash even thought the firewall forwa
rd, cockpit, wings, and gear may not.=C2- Also, an engine fire is not as
likely to spread to the tailcone.=C2- Or so they say.
I found that the original ELT in the airplane wouldn't have activated in th
e nose-over anyway... battery corrosion had eaten up a lot of the electroni
cs and battery terminals inside it when I opened it to inspect why it hadn'
t gone off.=C2- It looked good on the outside, but did nothing useful.=C2
- I suppose if you want an ELT that will actually do some good locating y
our downed airplane, you should get one that works on 406Mhz where the sate
llites are listening.=C2- Nobody listens to 121.5 anymore.
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489893#489893
S -
WIKI -
-
=C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Ken Bickers <bickers.ken(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: ELT Recommendation |
Mike, you might touch base with a DAR in your area before you buy a 121.5
ELT. My understanding is that the FAA no longer permits a signoff on new
installations of those.
Besides, if you ever do end up in a situation where the ELT could save your
life, having one that can actually help do that may seem like a pretty good
investment. You might not be able to reach or activate a PLB.
I've had something like that experience.
Here's the short version of the story. Four years ago, after my engine quit
in flight, I landed in a cornfield and came to rest upside down. Within a
minute or two, I received a call from the ELT folks checking on the status
of my airplane and me. They knew precisely my location. In fact, I had
just started inspecting the damage when the call came in. As it happens, I
was unhurt. So in this instance, I suppose it didn't matter that I had a
new style 406 ELT. But the value of one became very clear. Now, I
wouldn't fly without it.
Cheers, Ken
On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 6:53 AM Michael Perez
wrote:
> Thank you Oscar. I want something cheap to meet the requirements...I plan
> to also have on me a personal locating beacon if venturing a way from my
> home base.
>
> taildrags(at)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Mike; my Air Camper has a Narco ELT, I believe it's the ELT-10, 121.5 Mhz
> only, one of the simplest and most ubiquitous ELTs from days gone by. It
> has its own little fold-out antenna so it could ostensibly be removed from
> the airplane after a crash and used as a personal-carry locator with the
> antenna extended. The battery has a mandatory 2-yr replacement and a
> battery costs $34.50 from Chief Aircraft and others. I test it regularly
> and it works, but I have as much expectation of anyone ever locating it or
> my downed aircraft as I do of winning the Powerball this Saturday. I
> installed it and maintain it on the aircraft to meet the requirement that
> an operational ELT be carried onboard my 2-place aircraft. I don't believe
> that an ELT is required for single-place aircraft like the Sky Scout.
>
> When I got 41CC, Corky had the ELT installed on the floorboard all the way
> up between the passenger's rudder pedals, and from every recommendation
> that I've ever seen, that is not a good location. Best location is behind
> the rear seat in the empennage, securely mounted to the structure, so
> that's where I moved it to after my airplane went over on its nose and I
> had to rebuild things. I mounted a flat piece of aluminum on the bottom
> inside the empennage where I can inspect it and reach the test switch by
> opening the access door in the headrest area, and then mounted a fixed ELT
> whip antenna to that ground plane and connected the ELT using the BNC
> connector and a short piece of coax. My understanding is that the tailcone
> of an aircraft usually stays intact in a crash even thought the firewall
> forward, cockpit, wings, and gear may not. Also, an engine fire is not as
> likely to spread to the tailcone. Or so they say.
>
> I found that the original ELT in the airplane wouldn't have activated in
> the nose-over anyway... battery corrosion had eaten up a lot of the
> electronics and battery terminals inside it when I opened it to inspect why
> it hadn't gone off. It looked good on the outside, but did nothing
> useful. I suppose if you want an ELT that will actually do some good
> locating your downed airplane, you should get one that works on 406Mhz
> where the satellites are listening. Nobody listens to 121.5 anymore.
>
> --------
> Oscar Zuniga
> Medford, OR
> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
> A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489893#489893
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
> http://forums.matronics.com
> http://wiki.matronics.com
> http://ww=====
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
the middle piece of plywood is cut, soaked and clamped onto the leading edge to
form. I messed one piece up by cutting it too short so now have to order another
piece. I did some more varnishing as well
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489905#489905
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190628_132135_resized_158.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: ELT Recommendation |
| From: | "taildrags" <taildrags(at)hotmail.com> |
The rule was implemented Jan. 11 of this year but with a 6-month transition period
so that vendors could deplete their inventory. After that expires (soon-!),
the manufacture, importation, or sale of 121.5 Mhz ELTs will be prohibited.
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489906#489906
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: ELT Recommendation |
| From: | "jarheadpilot82" <jarheadpilot82(at)hotmail.com> |
taildrags wrote:
> The rule was implemented Jan. 11 of this year but with a 6-month transition period
so that vendors could deplete their inventory. After that expires (soon-!),
the manufacture, importation, or sale of 121.5 Mhz ELTs will be prohibited.
Oscar,
Use is not prohibited. Rather the the certification, and eventually the manufacture,
importation, or sale of 121.5-MHz ELTs ended on 1/1/2019 with the six month
grace period of manufacturers and sellers of the product.Not users.
https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/all-news/2018/december/18/new-1215-mhz-elts-to-be-prohibited
Having said that, a 406 ELT package is about $900-1100 at ACS. A PLB at ACS is
$300-600, The higher end PLB broadcasts on the 406 Mhz band as well. So from a
price standpoint, the PLB is a better use of money. The only question I have
is this - what causes the PLB to send a signal? An ELT is activated either manually
or by G forces. If the PLB is only manually actuated, Mike, you have to
ask yourself how it benefits you in an incident in which you are incapacitated.
I don't have an answer for that, although I am asking myself those same questions.
--------
Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489917#489917
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Ken Bickers <bickers.ken(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: ELT Recommendation |
Aircraft Spruce is advertising its Ack 406 ELT complete new install unit
for $544. I've installed two of these in the past few years. One in my
Pacer (yes, under the supervision of an A&P) and one in my Piet. They are
simple to install. Everything required is included in the kit. The EBC
ELT 121.5 unit is 8 dollars cheaper. That's not a lot of savings for the
decrease in functionality.
On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 8:51 AM jarheadpilot82
wrote:
> jarheadpilot82(at)hotmail.com>
>
>
> taildrags wrote:
> > The rule was implemented Jan. 11 of this year but with a 6-month
> transition period so that vendors could deplete their inventory. After
> that expires (soon-!), the manufacture, importation, or sale of 121.5 Mhz
> ELTs will be prohibited.
>
>
> Oscar,
>
> Use is not prohibited. Rather the the certification, and eventually the
> manufacture, importation, or sale of 121.5-MHz ELTs ended on 1/1/2019 with
> the six month grace period of manufacturers and sellers of the product.Not
> users.
>
>
> https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/all-news/2018/december/18/new-1215-mhz-elts-to-be-prohibited
>
> Having said that, a 406 ELT package is about $900-1100 at ACS. A PLB at
> ACS is $300-600, The higher end PLB broadcasts on the 406 Mhz band as well.
> So from a price standpoint, the PLB is a better use of money. The only
> question I have is this - what causes the PLB to send a signal? An ELT is
> activated either manually or by G forces. If the PLB is only manually
> actuated, Mike, you have to ask yourself how it benefits you in an incident
> in which you are incapacitated. I don't have an answer for that, although I
> am asking myself those same questions.
>
> --------
> Semper Fi,
>
> Terry Hand
> Athens, GA
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489917#489917
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Port Charlotte, FL Pietenpol Build |
| From: | "JSeitz" <Joachimkarlseitz(at)gmail.com> |
Hey everyone,
My Piet build has been off and on for a number of years now, but it seems that
finally, I will be able to continue. As for where I am at now, here it goes:
Rudder/fin - ready for hardware and cover
Elevators - one ready for hardware and cover, one needs varnish
Horizontal Stab - Needs final shaping, sanding, and varnish
Ribs - ready for varnish (got them completed)
Fuselage - Sides complete, need to be put together
That is my current situation, and I have already made some perhaps odd decisions
for the future of the build.
I will be using a Ford A for the engine due to classic looks, low cost, and simplicity.
I will be using the straight axle landing gear with motorcycle wheels. However
since I plan on building with the tailskid, I am opting out of brakes. Yes, I
know this limits me to grass (unless I have decided that life has gotten too boring),
but I feel that it simplifies the design greatly, saves me a few pounds,
and I really love that it harkens back to the original Pietenpols.
One interesting thing to note however is that I have a long fuselage and plan on
using the Model A. I am not particularly concerned about this as on average
I weigh about 225 and am 6'4" so some extra room is worth it.
Instrumentation will be minimal, and no electric system.
Still debating if I want to put in a door. Definitely adding a step though.
I will post pictures as soon as my garage is somewhat presentable.
Best wishes,
Joachim "Joe" Seitz
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489941#489941
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Michael Perez <speedbrake(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | Re: ELT Recommendation |
Thanks guys. I'm leaning towards a new 406 Mhz. unit...complete...as I need the
entire set up.
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Port Charlotte, FL Pietenpol Build |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
sounds like you are well on your way. keep us updated and we'd love a picture or
two.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489971#489971
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | New Weight & Balance Manual To Be Available At Brodhead |
| From: | "jarheadpilot82" <jarheadpilot82(at)hotmail.com> |
I want to pass along some very important information. Rad the ad below for a mpre
complete explanation-
As was written in the Newsletter, the weight and balance articles that were in
the BPA newsletter several years ago have been updated and expanded and the all
new Pietenpol Weight & Balance Manual will be available at Brodhead. William
Wynne has done a ton of work creating this new 64 page manual. Lots of great
info for anyone building or flying a Pietenpol. The price for those of you unable
to attend is $20.00 plus actual shipping costs to wherever you are. If interested,
please email Pat Weeden at BPA(at)pietenpols.org
One correction, though to the ad. William Wynne and Ryan Mueller will be available
to answer your weight and balance questions at Brodhead, not me.
--------
Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489987#489987
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/wandb_ad_616.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: New Weight & Balance Manual To Be Available At Brodhead |
| From: | "taildrags" <taildrags(at)hotmail.com> |
You just sold the first copy!!! I want mine autographed ;o) Excellent resource!
How much, and where do I send the $$?
-Oscar
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489993#489993
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: New Weight & Balance Manual To Be Available At Brodhead |
| From: | "taildrags" <taildrags(at)hotmail.com> |
Doh-! Sorry... I hit before reading everything. I'll contact Pat and send my
money. I still want that autograph though.
-Oscar
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489994#489994
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Travel Plans to Brodhead?? |
| From: | "peridans" <sesuya(at)daymail.life> |
I would like to visit Chicago this month. As usual, I have difficulties with packing
a suitcase. Can you give me good advice? I understand that you need to put
things in layers and the first layer on the bottom of the suitcase is shoes.
All socks should be stuffed into shoes to save space and shoes. Next should
go the heaviest rollers: jeans, sweaters, etc. But all my clothes still have wrinkles.
I have read that there aregarment bags for clothes in a suitcase. Do
you think they really keep clothes ironed?
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490073#490073
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Travel Plans to Brodhead?? |
| From: | "taildrags" <taildrags(at)hotmail.com> |
Heh, heh... I think the Pietenpol crowd just grabs what we were wearing yesterday,
gives it the sniff test, and if it passes- we throw it on and go. If not,
grab the cleanest pair of jeans in the stack, plus a Piet-themed tee shirt, and
wrinkles are about the last thing we are concerned about. Matter of fact,
a little dab of Aeroshell 50 on the shirt and the slightest hint of avgas where
it got wiped off on the jeans after sumping the fuel tank for water, actually
adds to that "here comes a pilot" sensation when we walk into the FBO or the
cafe.
I've tried packing my suitcases logically, but gave up years ago after I would
open my suitcase at the destination and the airline baggage handlers and TSA had
it all looking like a scrambled mess anyway.
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC, A75 power
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490085#490085
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Port Charlotte, FL Pietenpol Build |
| From: | "JSeitz" <Joachimkarlseitz(at)gmail.com> |
Well here are a few pictures. I re-leveled my table today after having had to move
it, and propped the rear seat framework including gluing it. Hopefully tomorrow
my seat plywood will go on. It may not look like much, but there is already
quite a number of hours in her. Today alone was about two hours between the
table and seat.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490120#490120
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/0707191906_889.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/0707191738a_135.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/0707191738_196.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Keith Goff <goffelectric(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Port Charlotte, FL Pietenpol Build |
That looks great! Keep up the good work
Keith
> On July 7, 2019 at 7:23 PM JSeitz wrote:
>
>
>
> Well here are a few pictures. I re-leveled my table today after having had to
move it, and propped the rear seat framework including gluing it. Hopefully tomorrow
my seat plywood will go on. It may not look like much, but there is already
quite a number of hours in her. Today alone was about two hours between
the table and seat.
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490120#490120
>
>
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/0707191906_889.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/0707191738a_135.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/0707191738_196.jpg
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | John Woods <jawesma(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: ELT Recommendation |
FAA issued SAIB on ELTs.
Might be worth a look.
JohnW
The FAA have published the following Special Airworthiness Information
Bulletin (SAIB):
FAA SAIB CE-19-12
-
ACR Electronics, Inc Emergency Locator Transmitters (ELT) G406-4, C406-1,
C406-1HM, C406-2, C406-2HM, C406-N and C406-NHM - Inoperative or
Deteriorated G-Switch
On Mon., 1 Jul. 2019, 18:32 Michael Perez, wrote:
> Thanks guys. I'm leaning towards a new 406 Mhz. unit...complete...as I
> need the entire set up.
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Travel Plans to Brodhead?? |
Oscar--
I haven't seen the dates for Brodhead anywhere, have you?
Cordially, Mac in Newport
From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 6, 2019 9:30:57 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Travel Plans to Brodhead??
Heh, heh... I think the Pietenpol crowd just grabs what we were wearing yesterday,
gives it the sniff test, and if it passes- we throw it on and go. If not,
grab the cleanest pair of jeans in the stack, plus a Piet-themed tee shirt, and
wrinkles are about the last thing we are concerned about. Matter of fact, a
little dab of Aeroshell 50 on the shirt and the slightest hint of avgas where
it got wiped off on the jeans after sumping the fuel tank for water, actually
adds to that "here comes a pilot" sensation when we walk into the FBO or the cafe.
I've tried packing my suitcases logically, but gave up years ago after I would
open my suitcase at the destination and the airline baggage handlers and TSA had
it all looking like a scrambled mess anyway.
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC, A75 power
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490085#490085
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Travel Plans to Brodhead?? |
| From: | "taildrags" <taildrags(at)hotmail.com> |
Mac: it's July 18-21. More info here-
http://www.eaa431.org/2019-pietenpol-fly-in-information/
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490165#490165
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Port Charlotte, FL Pietenpol Build |
| From: | "echobravo4" <eab4(at)comcast.net> |
Nice work!
dont forget to add the small strut mount filler blocks to the fuselage sides.
--------
Earl Brown
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I
intended to be.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490183#490183
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_4605_copy_164.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: New Weight & Balance Manual To Be Available At Brodhead |
| From: | "jarheadpilot82" <jarheadpilot82(at)hotmail.com> |
Here is a link to William Wynnes YouTube channel where he discusses the new Pietenpol
Weight & Balance Manual as well as a link to the BPA website store where
you can order a copy if you are unable to be at Brodhead next week -
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5ukNBFOU7rM
http://www.pietenpols.org/store/
--------
Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490197#490197
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Brodhead musicians? |
| From: | "wheelharp" <wheelharp(at)gmail.com> |
Just curious if anybody ever plays music around fire pit after dark at Brodhead.
Seems like a few years ago that might have been a thing, but last year (my first
year to make it there) somebody was there with a banjo, but that was it...plus
I didnt have anything with me anyway. I thought of throwing some stuff in
camper if anyone else plays. Ive got an upright bass, guitar, mandolin, mountain
dulcimer, and bagpipes if we really want to raise a ruckus.
--------
Jon Jones
Ironton, MO
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490223#490223
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | helspersew(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Brodhead musicians? |
Yes please do so. This type of thing is sorely needed! And appreciated!
Dan HelsperLoensloe AirfieldPuryear, Tenn.
-----Original Message-----
From: wheelharp <wheelharp(at)gmail.com>
Sent: Fri, Jul 12, 2019 4:03 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead musicians?
Just curious if anybody ever plays music around fire pit after dark at Brod
head. Seems like a few years ago that might have been a thing, but last yea
r (my first year to make it there) somebody was there with a banjo, but tha
t was it...plus I didn=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2t have anything with me anywa
y. I thought of throwing some stuff in camper if anyone else plays. I=C3=A2
=82=AC=84=A2ve got an upright bass, guitar, mandolin, mountain dulcim
er, and bagpipes if we really want to raise a ruckus.
--------
Jon Jones
Ironton, MO
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490223#490223
S -
WIKI -
-
=C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin.
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Brodhead musicians? |
| From: | "wheelharp" <wheelharp(at)gmail.com> |
Just curious if anybody ever plays music around fire pit after dark at Brodhead.
Seems like a few years ago that might have been a thing, but last year (my first
year to make it there) somebody was there with a banjo, but that was it...plus
I didnt have anything with me anyway. I thought of throwing some stuff in
camper if anyone else plays. Ive got an upright bass, guitar, mandolin, mountain
dulcimer, and bagpipes if we really want to raise a ruckus.
--------
Jon Jones
Ironton, MO
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490225#490225
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Ed KTOWN Knouse <ktown069(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Brodhead musicians? |
I play guitar Jon. Not the best, but if there is one around and were just jammin
Ill join in!
Cheers,
KTOWN
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jul 12, 2019, at 15:26, wheelharp wrote:
>
>
> Just curious if anybody ever plays music around fire pit after dark at Brodhead.
Seems like a few years ago that might have been a thing, but last year (my
first year to make it there) somebody was there with a banjo, but that was it...plus
I didn?Tt have anything with me anyway. I thought of throwing some stuff
in camper if anyone else plays. I?Tve got an upright bass, guitar, mandolin,
mountain dulcimer, and bagpipes if we really want to raise a ruckus.
>
> --------
> Jon Jones
> Ironton, MO
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490225#490225
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Brodhead musicians? |
| From: | "wheelharp" <wheelharp(at)gmail.com> |
Sounds good! Im not that great either, but I have fun.
--------
Jon Jones
Ironton, MO
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490237#490237
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jack Philips" <jack(at)bedfordlandings.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Brodhead musicians? |
For years I thought about bringing my bagpipe, but there never was room in the
Pietenpol for it.
Jack Phillips
Pietenpol NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
RV-10 N142KW, ready for its Airworthiness Inspection on Tuesday
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of wheelharp
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2019 12:47 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead musicians?
Sounds good! Im not that great either, but I have fun.
--------
Jon Jones
Ironton, MO
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490237#490237
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Brodhead musicians? |
| From: | Darrel Jones <wd6bor(at)vom.com> |
Paul and Darrel will be bringing guitars.
On 7/12/2019 9:47 PM, wheelharp wrote:
>
> Sounds good! Im not that great either, but I have fun.
>
> --------
> Jon Jones
> Ironton, MO
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2fforums.matronics.com%2fviewtopic.php%3fp%3d490237%23490237&c=E,1,TOwNJBg9yJSYGm6N2AEZz0km3JVpKgRmvMOcftpQSN22-sBkmDGeQQNRoBrtEsz15JSVRwddBwOmeNP83ckIXCpjHB9Am114hcyJc4svVhqu&typo=1
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Brodhead musicians? |
| From: | Darrel Jones <wd6bor(at)vom.com> |
Jon,
Paul also plays upright bass so if you bring it he can play along. No
room in the 172 for his though.
Darrel
On 7/12/2019 9:47 PM, wheelharp wrote:
>
> Sounds good! Im not that great either, but I have fun.
>
> --------
> Jon Jones
> Ironton, MO
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2fforums.matronics.com%2fviewtopic.php%3fp%3d490237%23490237&c=E,1,TOwNJBg9yJSYGm6N2AEZz0km3JVpKgRmvMOcftpQSN22-sBkmDGeQQNRoBrtEsz15JSVRwddBwOmeNP83ckIXCpjHB9Am114hcyJc4svVhqu&typo=1
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | amsafetyc(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Brodhead musicians? |
Gee now ya have to do this, I play a mean kazoo, it fits in my pocket and h
ighly portable except for one problem. I will not be coming again this year
but remain hopeful for next.=C2-
Best regards safe travels good health and a wonderful 90th
John
Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com
On=C2-Saturday, July 13, 2019,=C2-Darrel Jones=C2-
=C2-wrote:
Jon,
Paul also plays upright bass so if you bring it he can play along. No
room in the 172 for his though.
Darrel
On 7/12/2019 9:47 PM, wheelharp wrote:
>
> Sounds good! I=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2m not that great either, but I have
fun.
>
> --------
> Jon Jones
> Ironton, MO
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2fforums.matronics.com
%2fviewtopic.php%3fp%3d490237%23490237&c=E,1,TOwNJBg9yJSYGm6N2AEZz0km3JVp
KgRmvMOcftpQSN22-sBkmDGeQQNRoBrtEsz15JSVRwddBwOmeNP83ckIXCpjHB9Am114hcyJc4s
vVhqu&typo=1
>
>
S -
WIKI -
-
=C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin.
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
got the 2nd piece of leading edge plywood, off the leading edge and put one coat
of varnish on the inside of it. the fuselage is up on sawhorses and the gear
legs are put back on
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490263#490263
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190713_131323_resized_428.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Port Charlotte, FL Pietenpol Build |
| From: | "JSeitz" <Joachimkarlseitz(at)gmail.com> |
The blocks will still be installed. I am still debating the front door as well.
If anyone has put one in, please let me know your thoughts. The last few days
I have been varnishing the rear seat and making templates for all the metal parts.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490265#490265
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Clif Dawson" <cdawson5854(at)shaw.ca> |
| Subject: | Re: Brodhead musicians? |
Tie it to the stuts with the mouthpiece pointing foreward.
Oh yeah, don't forget the funnel and hundred mile tape.
Clif
Music is the wine that fills the cup of silence.
>
> For years I thought about bringing my bagpipe, but there never was room in
> the Pietenpol for it.
>
> Jack Phillips
> Pietenpol NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
> RV-10 N142KW, ready for its Airworthiness Inspection on Tuesday
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | dndboyd2(at)gmail.com |
| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 07/13/19 |
I put in a front door. Huge help when helping passengers get in and out.
200 hrs. With a couple of firm landings. Still going strong.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jul 14, 2019, at 12:40 AM, Pietenpol-List Digest Server
wrote:
>
> *
>
> =================================================
> Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive
> =================================================
>
> Today's complete Pietenpol-List Digest can also be found in either of the
> two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted
> in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes
> and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version
> of the Pietenpol-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor
> such as Notepad or with a web browser.
>
> HTML Version:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 19-07-13&Archive=Pietenpol
>
> Text Version:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 19-07-13&Archive=Pietenpol
>
>
> ===============================================
> EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive
> ===============================================
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Pietenpol-List Digest Archive
> ---
> Total Messages Posted Sat 07/13/19: 7
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Today's Message Index:
> ----------------------
>
> 1. 04:16 AM - Re: Re: Brodhead musicians? (Jack Philips)
> 2. 10:36 AM - Re: Re: Brodhead musicians? (Darrel Jones)
> 3. 10:38 AM - Re: Re: Brodhead musicians? (Darrel Jones)
> 4. 11:06 AM - Re: Re: Brodhead musicians? (amsafetyc(at)aol.com)
> 5. 01:00 PM - Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet (cdlwingnut)
> 6. 02:40 PM - Re: Port Charlotte, FL Pietenpol Build (JSeitz)
> 7. 07:16 PM - Re: Re: Brodhead musicians? (Clif Dawson)
>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
>
>
> From: "Jack Philips" <jack(at)bedfordlandings.com>
> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead musicians?
>
>
> For years I thought about bringing my bagpipe, but there never was room in the
> Pietenpol for it.
>
> Jack Phillips
> Pietenpol NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
> RV-10 N142KW, ready for its Airworthiness Inspection on Tuesday
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of wheelharp
> Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2019 12:47 AM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead musicians?
>
>
> Sounds good! Im not that great either, but I have fun.
>
> --------
> Jon Jones
> Ironton, MO
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490237#490237
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
>
>
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead musicians?
> From: Darrel Jones <wd6bor(at)vom.com>
>
>
> Paul and Darrel will be bringing guitars.
>
>> On 7/12/2019 9:47 PM, wheelharp wrote:
>>
>> Sounds good! Im not that great either, but I have fun.
>>
>> --------
>> Jon Jones
>> Ironton, MO
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2fforums.matronics.com%2fviewtopic.php%3fp%3d490237%23490237&c=E,1,TOwNJBg9yJSYGm6N2AEZz0km3JVpKgRmvMOcftpQSN22-sBkmDGeQQNRoBrtEsz15JSVRwddBwOmeNP83ckIXCpjHB9Am114hcyJc4svVhqu&typo=1
>>
>>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________
>
>
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead musicians?
> From: Darrel Jones <wd6bor(at)vom.com>
>
>
> Jon,
>
> Paul also plays upright bass so if you bring it he can play along. No
> room in the 172 for his though.
>
> Darrel
>
>> On 7/12/2019 9:47 PM, wheelharp wrote:
>>
>> Sounds good! Im not that great either, but I have fun.
>>
>> --------
>> Jon Jones
>> Ironton, MO
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2fforums.matronics.com%2fviewtopic.php%3fp%3d490237%23490237&c=E,1,TOwNJBg9yJSYGm6N2AEZz0km3JVpKgRmvMOcftpQSN22-sBkmDGeQQNRoBrtEsz15JSVRwddBwOmeNP83ckIXCpjHB9Am114hcyJc4svVhqu&typo=1
>>
>>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________
>
>
> From: amsafetyc(at)aol.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead musicians?
>
> Gee now ya have to do this, I play a mean kazoo, it fits in my pocket and h
> ighly portable except for one problem. I will not be coming again this year
> but remain hopeful for next.=C2-
> Best regards safe travels good health and a wonderful 90th
> John
>
> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
> Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com
> On=C2-Saturday, July 13, 2019,=C2-Darrel Jones=C2-
> =C2-wrote:
>
>
> Jon,
>
> Paul also plays upright bass so if you bring it he can play along. No
> room in the 172 for his though.
>
> Darrel
>
>> On 7/12/2019 9:47 PM, wheelharp wrote:
>>
>> Sounds good! I=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2m not that great either, but I have
> fun.
>>
>> --------
>> Jon Jones
>> Ironton, MO
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2fforums.matronics.com
> %2fviewtopic.php%3fp%3d490237%23490237&c=E,1,TOwNJBg9yJSYGm6N2AEZz0km3JVp
> KgRmvMOcftpQSN22-sBkmDGeQQNRoBrtEsz15JSVRwddBwOmeNP83ckIXCpjHB9Am114hcyJc4s
> vVhqu&typo=1
>>
>>
>
>
> S -
> WIKI -
> -
> =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin.
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________
>
>
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet
> From: "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com>
>
>
> got the 2nd piece of leading edge plywood, off the leading edge and put one coat
> of varnish on the inside of it. the fuselage is up on sawhorses and the gear
> legs are put back on
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490263#490263
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190713_131323_resized_428.jpg
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________
>
>
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Port Charlotte, FL Pietenpol Build
> From: "JSeitz" <Joachimkarlseitz(at)gmail.com>
>
>
> The blocks will still be installed. I am still debating the front door as well.
> If anyone has put one in, please let me know your thoughts. The last few days
> I have been varnishing the rear seat and making templates for all the metal parts.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490265#490265
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________
>
>
> From: "Clif Dawson" <cdawson5854(at)shaw.ca>
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead musicians?
>
>
> Tie it to the stuts with the mouthpiece pointing foreward.
> Oh yeah, don't forget the funnel and hundred mile tape.
>
> Clif
> Music is the wine that fills the cup of silence.
>
>
>>
>> For years I thought about bringing my bagpipe, but there never was room in
>> the Pietenpol for it.
>>
>> Jack Phillips
>> Pietenpol NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
>> RV-10 N142KW, ready for its Airworthiness Inspection on Tuesday
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
got the second coat of varnish on the inside of the plywood piece, and started
putting the landing gear back on
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490314#490314
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190715_161424_resized_958.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190715_161415_resized_187.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190715_130837_resized_938.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Piet parts for sale |
| From: | "mfairfield" <mike(at)alpha1fire.ca> |
Pietenpol parts for sale!
Full set of plasticized plans
I have a Continental 0-200 (non certified) for sale with engine mount, carb, starter,
alternator, mags and complete exhaust system.
I also have 22 complete ribs with all parts to complete another 12 ribs. All parts
ready to assemble with supplied jig. The ribs really came out great and
identical.
T-88 Epoxy 1 quart of A and 1 quart of B
All wood is Aircraft Spruce stock
Wing spars
2 of 5 3/4" x 3/4" x 17'
2 of 4 3/4" x 3/4" x 16' 6"
Also,
Wing spars
2 of 5 1/4" x 7/8" x 14'
2 of 4" x 7/8" x 16' 6"
Spruce stock
4 of 1" x 1" x15'
2 of 1" x 1" x 66"
4 of 2 1/2" x 1/2" x 7'
4 of 3/4" x 3/4" x 60"
2 of 1" x 1/2" x 7'
45 other pieces for fuselage (up to 50" long) Not for a 50" fuselage, but I'm sure
you get the picture.
8 of round stainless steel flying wire stock 3/16" x 187"
Instruments, used.
3 1/8" turn and bank vacuum
3500 RPM tach for Continental
3 1/8" directional gyro
3 1/8" 0-260 knot airspeed (not really for a Piet)
3 1/8" old Cessna HSI
3 1/8" Altimeter 10,000 ft. 2 needle with barometer adjustment
Suction gauge
Lots of AN hardware, pulleys, bolts, nuts, turnbuckles etc.
This could be your lucky day!
Feel free to contact Mike at 819-576-5678.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490365#490365
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0264_829.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0263_208.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0262_189.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0261_763.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0260_218.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0259_124.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0236_557.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0230_150.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0216_100.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
finally got the second leading edge plywood panel glued in place
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490369#490369
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190717_161958_resized_237.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "rampil" <ira.rampil(at)gmail.com> |
Greetings fellow Aviators!
I know there's not much room in a Pietenpol panel and a lot of folks add iOS devices
to their electronic flight bag or lap board, I thought these apps might be of
interest
to you vintage aviators! Of particular interest might be Runway Finder (to find
grass strips away from home), and VOR Navigator just because, what Piet has a
VOR and ADF for old fashioned navigating?
Our family of apps for aviation has grown into 11 very handy and unique tools for
people who fly
(or dream about it!). Here's a brief list of the Apps with links to the App Store
for more information
and a sampling of screen shots to see the apps in action.
The latest App is Runway Finder. This app was suggested by a buddy, a retired
Delta Captain who owns a Citabria.
He does a lot of cross country flying and complained that it was hard to find a
grass strip to use away from home base.
This App maps out airports by runway surface and type (Turf, Paved, Gravel, Water,
Glider, and Heliport).
Runway Finder has a built-in list of over 50,000 runways/airports world wide. It
is available on the Apple App store at:
https://apps.apple.com/app/airport-runway-finder/id1471923024
Plane Registry. A FREE app to lookup US-Registered aircraft from the live FAA database.
https://apps.apple.com/app/airport-runway-finder/id1471923024
Local METARS. A very handy weather app for local conditions. Just open the App
and it will display
the current METAR conditions at the closest reporting station. You get the option
to look out up to
100 miles and sort by bearing from your location. No more scrolling and endless
clicking to get the
Wx you need for local flying. This app works with world wide reporting stations.
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/local-metars/id1150644548
We also have a stand-alone version of Local METARS for the Apple Watch
https://apps.apple.com/app/local-metars-for-watch/id1447757207
Civil Twilight Calculator. CTC is a self-contained sunrise/sunset calculator for
use anywhere.
No calling home to the Naval Observatory! It doesnt need internet access at all.
Use it in
flight! It can tell you accurately when Civil Twilight occurs where you are, or
at an airport
around the world, on any day 50 years. If you do have internet, you can give it
a street
address and see the calculated times.
https://apps.apple.com/app/civil-twilight-calculator/id1163850946
We also have a stand-alone version for Apple Watch:
https://apps.apple.com/app/civil-twilight-for-watch/id1448137376
Aviation Altimeter (aka avAltimeter). Not a GPS altimeter like most on the App
Store, but a True
and Accurate barometric altimeter using the built-in sensors in iPhones after iPhone
6, or iPads
after the Mini-4. Has a Kollsman adjustment for ATC or METARs reports. Looks and
feels just like
the steam gauge in your panel, but with Smart features: Density Altitude, Oxygen
Warning timer,
and estimated aircraft Performance, auto-set at airport, etc.
https://apps.apple.com/app/avaltimeter/id1120306812
The stand-alone version for the Apple Watch:
https://apps.apple.com/app/aviation-altimeter-for-watch/id1434085253
VOR Navigator. Truly unique! A fully functional VOR and HSI navigator (using GPS,
not VHF). Includes
all current VOR and NDB transmitting stations plus a number of recently decommissioned
ones. Also
includes DME and ADF modes. The App will also home to all Large and Medium (Commercial)
airports.
Check out the Add Lightning mode for the ADF for a true vintage experience! This
is a single hybrid
App, which works on both iOS devices and the Apple Watch, each independently from
the other.
https://apps.apple.com/app/vor-navigator/id1451733763
Crosswinds Live. Another very unique and handy App. Crosswinds Live contains the
runway diagrams for
all registered airports world wide and will draw the current wind across the runways.
The wind information
comes from the METAR station closest to the airport. Also computes the headwind
& crosswind components
for flight planning.
https://apps.apple.com/app/crosswinds-live/id1240254020
Sun Compass. Compass broken? Lost on a hike? If you can see the Sun or the Moon,
this app for Apple Watch
can help you out. The Watch does not have a compass built in, but, using the GPS
and some fancy astronomy
calculations, this App will point to North, and show you your direction of travel.
For Watch only (iOS has builtin
magnetic compass hardware)
https://apps.apple.com/app/sun-compass-for-watch/id1448262474
Safe Flying!
--------
Ira N224XS
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490381#490381
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | woodflier <woodflier(at)aol.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Apps for EFB |
Apparently none of these are for Android devices?
-----Original Message-----
From: rampil <ira.rampil(at)gmail.com>
Sent: Thu, Jul 18, 2019 8:55 am
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Apps for EFB
Greetings fellow Aviators!
I know there's not much room in a Pietenpol panel and a lot of folks add iO
S devices
to their electronic flight bag or lap board, I thought these apps=C2- mig
ht be of interest
to you vintage aviators!=C2- Of particular interest might be Runway Finde
r (to find
grass strips away from home), and VOR Navigator just because, what Piet has
a
VOR and ADF for old fashioned navigating?
Our family of apps for aviation has grown into 11 very handy and unique too
ls for people who fly
(or dream about it!). Here's a brief list of the Apps with links to the App
Store for more information
and a sampling of screen shots to see the apps in action.
The latest App is Runway Finder.=C2- This app was suggested by a buddy, a
retired Delta Captain who owns a Citabria.
He does a lot of cross country flying and complained that it was hard to fi
nd a grass strip to use away from home base.
This App maps out airports by runway surface and type (Turf, Paved, Gravel,
Water, Glider, and Heliport).
Runway Finder has a built-in list of over 50,000 runways/airports world wid
e. It is available on the Apple App store at:
https://apps.apple.com/app/airport-runway-finder/id1471923024
Plane Registry. A FREE app to lookup US-Registered aircraft from the live F
AA database.
https://apps.apple.com/app/airport-runway-finder/id1471923024
Local METARS.=C2- A very handy weather app for local conditions.=C2- Ju
st open the App and it will display
the current METAR conditions at the closest reporting station. You get the
option to look out up to
100 miles and sort by bearing from your location. No more scrolling and end
less clicking to get the
Wx you need for local flying.=C2- This app works with world wide reportin
g stations.
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/local-metars/id1150644548
We also have a stand-alone version of Local METARS for the Apple Watch
https://apps.apple.com/app/local-metars-for-watch/id1447757207
Civil Twilight Calculator. CTC is a self-contained sunrise/sunset calculato
r for use anywhere.
No calling home to the Naval Observatory! It doesn=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2t
need internet access at all. Use it in
flight! It can tell you accurately when Civil Twilight occurs where you are
, or at an airport
around the world, on any day =C3=82=C2=B1 50 years. If you do have internet
, you can give it a street
address and see the calculated=C2- times.
https://apps.apple.com/app/civil-twilight-calculator/id1163850946
We also have a stand-alone version for Apple Watch:
https://apps.apple.com/app/civil-twilight-for-watch/id1448137376
Aviation Altimeter (aka avAltimeter). Not a GPS altimeter like most on the
App Store, but a True
and Accurate barometric altimeter using the built-in sensors in iPhones aft
er iPhone 6, or iPads
after the Mini-4. Has a Kollsman adjustment for ATC or METARs reports. Look
s and feels just like
the steam gauge in your panel, but with Smart features: Density Altitude, O
xygen Warning timer,
and estimated aircraft Performance, auto-set at airport, etc.
https://apps.apple.com/app/avaltimeter/id1120306812
The stand-alone version for the Apple Watch:
https://apps.apple.com/app/aviation-altimeter-for-watch/id1434085253
VOR Navigator. Truly unique! A fully functional VOR and HSI navigator (usin
g GPS, not VHF). Includes
all current VOR and NDB transmitting stations plus a number of recently dec
ommissioned ones. Also
includes DME and ADF modes. The App will also home to all Large and Medium
(Commercial) airports.
Check out the =C3=A2=82=AC=C5=93Add Lightning=C3=A2=82=AC=EF=BD mo
de for the ADF for a true vintage experience!=C2- This is a single hybrid
App, which works on both iOS devices and the Apple Watch, each independentl
y from the other.
https://apps.apple.com/app/vor-navigator/id1451733763
Crosswinds Live.=C2- Another very unique and handy App. Crosswinds Live c
ontains the runway diagrams for
all registered airports world wide and will draw the current wind across th
e runways. The wind information
comes from the METAR station closest to the airport. Also computes the head
wind & crosswind components
for flight planning.
https://apps.apple.com/app/crosswinds-live/id1240254020
Sun Compass.=C2- Compass broken? Lost on a hike?=C2- If you can see the
Sun or the Moon, this app for Apple Watch
can help you out.=C2- The Watch does not have a compass built in, but, us
ing the GPS and some fancy astronomy
calculations, this App will point to North, and show you your direction of
travel.=C2- For Watch only (iOS has builtin
magnetic compass hardware)
https://apps.apple.com/app/sun-compass-for-watch/id1448262474
Safe Flying!
--------
Ira N224XS
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490381#490381
S -
WIKI -
-
=C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin.
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Apps for EFB |
| From: | "rampil" <ira.rampil(at)gmail.com> |
Afraid you are correct.
At present, Aviametrix, LLC is a strictly iOS and Apple Watch shop.
Yes, I am aware of the size of the android market, but for exactly the same reason
that Austin Meyer of Laminar Research (X-Plane and Xavion) avoids it:
1) Patent trolls inhabit the Play Store but not Apple Store leading to frivolous
lawsuits
but also
2) Great variability in sensor hardware between devices in Android world
3) Small development shop here with limited resources to create fine-tuned
software for multiple operating systems and hardware platforms in different
programming languages not less.
If things change, we will announce it. Enjoy your Piet!
--------
Ira N224XS
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490385#490385
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | woodflier <woodflier(at)aol.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Apps for EFB |
Thanks, heading to Brodhead tomorrow.=C2-
Matt PaxtonNX629ML
-----Original Message-----
From: rampil <ira.rampil(at)gmail.com>
Sent: Thu, Jul 18, 2019 9:32 am
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Apps for EFB
Afraid you are correct.
At present, Aviametrix, LLC is a strictly iOS and Apple Watch shop.
Yes, I am aware of the size of the android market, but for exactly the same
reason
that Austin Meyer of Laminar Research (X-Plane and Xavion) avoids it:
1) Patent trolls inhabit the Play Store but not Apple Store leading to friv
olous lawsuits
but also
2) Great variability in sensor hardware between devices in Android world
3) Small development shop here with limited resources to create fine-tuned
=C2- =C2- software for multiple operating systems and hardware platform
s in different
=C2- =C2- programming languages not less.
If things change, we will announce it.=C2- Enjoy your Piet!
--------
Ira N224XS
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490385#490385
S -
WIKI -
-
=C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin.
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
I braved the heat in the shop. The third Plywood panel is cut and strapped in place
to pre-bend.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490432#490432
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190719_122505_resized_115.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190719_122514_resized_101.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Port Charlotte, FL Pietenpol Build |
| From: | "JSeitz" <Joachimkarlseitz(at)gmail.com> |
Some progress to report. I am almost done with varnishing the pilot's seat and
am down to the last sanding for the last coat. The passenger seat is completely
glued up, and I will be able to do my final shaping tonight or tomorrow morning
in preparation for it being varnished as well. Thanks to the helpful information
from Mr. Boyd, I will be installing a door in the front pit for easier
entrance and egress.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490465#490465
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/0720192103a1_126.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/07201921031_863.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Port Charlotte, FL Pietenpol Build |
| From: | "taildrags" <taildrags(at)hotmail.com> |
You might want to think about some openings (or an opening) in the seat so you
can inspect the rudder bar brace and other stuff under the front seat. I've got
some in mine and it's been helpful. A few pix here-
http://flysquirrel.net/piets/repairs/seat.html
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490480#490480
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | JOHN HODNETTE <JOHNHODNETTE(at)msn.com> |
| Subject: | RE: Pietenpol-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 07/22/19 |
I have a Pietenpol project that I am not going to be able to finish. How d
o I see about selling it to a true builder?
John Hodnette
Sent from Mail for Window
s 10
________________________________
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com <owner-pietenpol-list-serve
r(at)matronics.com> on behalf of Pietenpol-List Digest Server
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2019 1:40:03 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 07/22/19
*
========================
Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive
========================
Today's complete Pietenpol-List Digest can also be found in either of the
two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted
in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes
and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version
of the Pietenpol-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor
such as Notepad or with a web browser.
HTML Version:
http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=htm
l&Chapter 19-07-22&Archive=Pietenpol
Text Version:
http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt
&Chapter 19-07-22&Archive=Pietenpol
========================
=======================
EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive
========================
=======================
----------------------------------------------------------
Pietenpol-List Digest Archive
---
Total Messages Posted Mon 07/22/19: 1
----------------------------------------------------------
Today's Message Index:
----------------------
1. 10:20 AM - Re: Port Charlotte, FL Pietenpol Build (taildrags)
________________________________ Message 1 ______________________________
_______
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Port Charlotte, FL Pietenpol Build
From: "taildrags" <taildrags(at)hotmail.com>
You might want to think about some openings (or an opening) in the seat so
you
can inspect the rudder bar brace and other stuff under the front seat. I'v
e got
some in mine and it's been helpful. A few pix here-
http://flysquirrel.net/piets/repairs/seat.html
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490480#490480
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Glen Schweizer <glenschweizer(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: RE: Pietenpol-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 07/22/19 |
You are located where?
> On Jul 23, 2019, at 12:09 PM, JOHN HODNETTE wrote:
>
> I have a Pietenpol project that I am not going to be able to finish. How d
o I see about selling it to a true builder?
>
> John Hodnette
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com <owner-pietenpol-list-serv
er(at)matronics.com> on behalf of Pietenpol-List Digest Server
> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2019 1:40:03 AM
> To: Pietenpol-List Digest List
> Subject: Pietenpol-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 07/22/19
>
> *
>
> =========================
> Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive
> =========================
>
> Today's complete Pietenpol-List Digest can also be found in either of the
> two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted
> in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes
> and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version
> of the Pietenpol-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor
> such as Notepad or with a web browser.
>
> HTML Version:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=ht
ml&Chapter 19-07-22&Archive=Pietenpol
>
> Text Version:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=tx
t&Chapter 19-07-22&Archive=Pietenpol
>
>
> ======================
> EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive
> ======================
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Pietenpol-List Digest Archive
> ---
> Total Messages Posted Mon 07/22/19: 1
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Today's Message Index:
> ----------------------
>
> 1. 10:20 AM - Re: Port Charlotte, FL Pietenpol Build (taildrags)
>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________
________
>
>
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Port Charlotte, FL Pietenpol Build
> From: "taildrags" <taildrags(at)hotmail.com>
>
>
> You might want to think about some openings (or an opening) in the seat so
you
> can inspect the rudder bar brace and other stuff under the front seat. I'
ve got
> some in mine and it's been helpful. A few pix here-
> http://flysquirrel.net/piets/repairs/seat.html
>
> --------
> Oscar Zuniga
> Medford, OR
> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
> A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490480#490480
>
>
>
>
> ==========
> -List Email Forum -
> enpol-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
> ==========
> p; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS -
> ums.matronics.com
> ==========
> p; - NEW MATRONICS LIST WIKI -
> matronics.com
> ==========
> p; - List Contribution Web Site -
> p; -Matt Dralle, List Admin.
> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
> ==========
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
the panel has had 2 coats of varnish put on the inside and is now glued in place.
all the leading edge plywood is done now.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490554#490554
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190726_150547_resized_142.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Michael Perez <speedbrake(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | New Pietenpol Build Log Video |
Hello Crew. I have some content now on my You Tube channel and have posted a new
Pietenpol video shot years back. This video details making and fitting the wood
landing gear fuselage brackets. I try to post a new video every weekend.
Enjoy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgf2rxG4rk0&list=PLRJi6Zhisj8X2hsKXJ2eyf7bhJID0GqFn&index=58&t=0s
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
i did some more of the fiddly stuff. A plywood strip is glued on, the ailerons
are cut off and the plywood web is glued in place
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490583#490583
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190729_155156_resized_509.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190729_124326_resized_577.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190729_121325_resized_224.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: New Pietenpol Build Log Video |
| From: | "echobravo4" <eab4(at)comcast.net> |
Hey Mike
How is your Piet doing? is it flying?
--------
Earl Brown
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I
intended to be.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490596#490596
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Michael Perez <speedbrake(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | Re: New Pietenpol Build Log Video |
Hello Earl. The plane is fine, but not flying. I have it out at the hangar
doing rigging and W&B. I am waiting for a co worker to come back from vaca
tion, so I can borrow his race car scales. I don't believe I will have all
the "I"s dotted and "T"s crossed for the airworthiness inspection anytime s
oon...too many little things to wrap up first.=C2- I don't make it to the
hangar very often, so this is a slow process.=C2- Next big step are the
engine runs/break in and taxi tests/practice. I should be able to do some o
f that before winter.
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: put your cards on the table Gents and Ladies! |
| From: | "peridans" <sesuya(at)daymail.life> |
Do you want to hear the advice I get? Try to test the Martingale strategy. Now,
as I understand it, I can use it used in gambling where the probability of winning
is 50% or slightly less. By the case of roulette - the chances of winning
by putting money on red or black are equal, but there is a probability of a
zero. The system is based on the fact that starting with a minimal dep, for example,
a $ 1 bet is made on one color, raising it twice until the bet is played.
I hope, that I`m right. Of course, I can surf this https://casinoanalyser.com
a specific analysis of this casino and make a decision. I wish I didn`t lose
my money and desire to play.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490625#490625
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: put your cards on the table Gents and Ladies! |
| From: | "taildrags" <taildrags(at)hotmail.com> |
'peridans'- I'd say there's a 50-50 chance you're posting to the wrong list here,
but there is also a probability of a zero. Not the Japanese warbird, but the
zero of your post being completely unrelated to the building and flying of
Pietenpol Air Campers.
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490627#490627
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
got a few more parts glued in place,
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490665#490665
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190801_161206_resized_151.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190801_161159_resized_687.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190801_161134_resized_265.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Log time listener first time caller |
Forum is a unique chance to speak the maximum number of people in the minimum amount
of time, so let`s get to work. Yes, I knew you`d know the casino where I
can test for absolutely all irish syndicate casino slots online (https://syndicate.casino/en-ie/casino/slots)
(slot machines) that they have presented. This
is the world-famous Byk Of RA (Books) - the Book of RA, and the Crazy Monkey
video slot known by many gamblers, and of course, the Pyramids. I look forward
to your suggestions, I can`t wait to try my luck.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490730#490730
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Lift Strut attach fittings |
This has me curious enough about it that I'm thinking of constructing a 3-d model
of the 4-bar linkage created by the two lift struts and their four attachment
points and then shifting the wing aft by a couple of inches to see if the angle
of incidence changes. A lot of builders end up shifting the wing aft to make
adjustments in the CG and I wonder if that changes the AOI any significant
amount. Yeah, I know... it flies just fine ;o)
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490731#490731
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: No progress on Piet BUT |
You will do fine, but our prayers are with you. Just CFI or CFII also?
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490732#490732
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: No progress on Piet BUT |
| From: | "taildrags" <taildrags(at)hotmail.com> |
Okay, 'mederiis'- time for you to go play somewhere else.
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490733#490733
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
a small step but a step non the less
got a couple more pieces cut and glued in
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490755#490755
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190807_160051_resized_137.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Lift and Wing Struts |
| From: | "JSeitz" <Joachimkarlseitz(at)gmail.com> |
I am trying to make effective use of my time in the hospital by researching, but
have not had luck finding this information in the archives (though I did find
a BUNCH of good stuff).
What size round tubing should I use for my lift and wing struts instead of streamlined?
I plan on attaching balsa to the back to streamline it afterward. Looking
forward to your insight!
Joe.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490800#490800
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jack Philips" <jack(at)bedfordlandings.com> |
| Subject: | Lift and Wing Struts |
Look in the Aircraft Spruce & Specialty catalog, under streamlined tubing.
They have a chart that shows equivalent sizes of round tubing for each
common size of streamlined tube.
Jack Phillips
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
Pietenpol Air Camper, NX899JP Flying for 15 years
RV-10, N142KW awaiting Airworthiness Inspection (hopefully this week)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of JSeitz
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2019 3:13 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Lift and Wing Struts
-->
I am trying to make effective use of my time in the hospital by researching,
but have not had luck finding this information in the archives (though I did
find a BUNCH of good stuff).
What size round tubing should I use for my lift and wing struts instead of
streamlined? I plan on attaching balsa to the back to streamline it
afterward. Looking forward to your insight!
Joe.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490800#490800
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
the wing was flipped over and the plywood strips glued to the bottom. Then i spent
some time fiddling with the brakes.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490912#490912
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190816_161303_resized_621.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190816_093507_resized_487.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Selling my GN-1 N666TB |
| From: | "tsbernie" <maxsystem(at)earthlink.net> |
Sadly, after 9 years happy flying, I have to sell my Aircamper. First flight was
in July 2010. She is hangered at Hampton Airfield, NH. 190TT, C85 340 SNEW,
fresh annual, GPS, AOA, tools, test equipment and helmets. $12,000 OBO I will
be happy to answer specific questions tsbernie(at)earthlink.net.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=490961#490961
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
I pulled the staples on they plywood strips on both sides of the wing and worked
on getting my brake peddles installed.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491065#491065
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190826_150116_173.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190826_150124_resized_776.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | P.F. Beck Flies West |
| From: | "jarheadpilot82" <jarheadpilot82(at)hotmail.com> |
On a very sad note I wanted to pass the word that a great man and a great Pietenpol
builder and flyer, P.F. Beck passed away earlier today. He was the consummate
southern gentleman. Below is a link to William Wynnes post sharing his thoughts
about P.F. William says it in a far better way than I ever could -
https://flycorvair.net/2019/08/29/p-f-beck-an-extraordinary-life-closes-8-28-19/?fbclid=IwAR1CqDrQBahtPsRfdB0VJ_PvdEe_zU9t2II73vjJLPCfRBVeVsMrQUnCNUk
--------
Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491107#491107
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: P.F. Beck Flies West |
| From: | "taildrags" <taildrags(at)hotmail.com> |
I regret to say that I never met P.F. in person, but having recently lost a very
close friend whose parents said they grew tired of hearing the word 'sorry'
in connection with his life, I'll say the following instead. I'm glad to have
lived in the same era as P.F. because he brought so much to the aviation world
and to life in general. I'm glad to know that there can still be unselfish,
honorable, responsible, humble people like P.F. and I know that he has inspired
others to go and do likewise by the way he lived his life. I'm glad to read
about his accomplishments, and his contributions, and the recognition that he
received while on this earth- but I think the most telling part of what William
wrote about P.F. was captured in the picture of P.F. serving himself from
the nearly-empty warming pans in the serving line at the Corvair College buffet.
That, more than anything, exemplifies the life well lived, the life that finds
its reward in bringing joy to others. Serve others first, then serve yourself
when everyone's plates are filled- and you will enjoy your meal to its very
fullest because then when you sit down to eat you'll be able to look around
the table and see all those other people enjoying their meals because of your
work and sacrifice. There truly is honor in being the last to go through the
serving line, and I know that P.F. will find our Lord's words to be true now
that he is where he can realize the truth of those words: "for the last shall
be first, and the first last". I'm glad that you will now get to be first, P.F.
-Oscar
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491113#491113
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: P.F. Beck Flies West |
| From: | "Lorenzo" <larharris2(at)msn.com> |
RIP, my friend.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491115#491115
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | 1932 FGM on Ebay |
| From: | "Heavy Iron" <ron.horton1000(at)gmail.com> |
There's an original 1932 Flying and Glider Manual on Ebay for $28 if anyone is
looking for one.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1932-Flying-and-Glider-Manual-Sport-Plane-Authority-of-America-airplane-mag-VG/293168372773?hash=item4442325c25:g:TtgAAOSwU1NdPhfW
I have a copy and the EAA reprint does not include all of the original content.
Cheers,
Ron
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491139#491139
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Charles N. Campbell" <charlescampbell1924(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: P.F. Beck Flies West |
Oscar, that was great. Thank you for your great and usually inspiring
posts. Chuck
On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 12:21 AM taildrags wrote:
>
> I regret to say that I never met P.F. in person, but having recently lost
> a very close friend whose parents said they grew tired of hearing the word
> 'sorry' in connection with his life, I'll say the following instead. I'm
> glad to have lived in the same era as P.F. because he brought so much to
> the aviation world and to life in general. I'm glad to know that there can
> still be unselfish, honorable, responsible, humble people like P.F. and I
> know that he has inspired others to go and do likewise by the way he lived
> his life. I'm glad to read about his accomplishments, and his
> contributions, and the recognition that he received while on this earth-
> but I think the most telling part of what William wrote about P.F. was
> captured in the picture of P.F. serving himself from the nearly-empty
> warming pans in the serving line at the Corvair College buffet. That, more
> than anything, exemplifies the life well lived, the life that finds its
> reward in bringing joy to others. Serve oth!
> ers first, then serve yourself when everyone's plates are filled- and you
> will enjoy your meal to its very fullest because then when you sit down to
> eat you'll be able to look around the table and see all those other people
> enjoying their meals because of your work and sacrifice. There truly is
> honor in being the last to go through the serving line, and I know that
> P.F. will find our Lord's words to be true now that he is where he can
> realize the truth of those words: "for the last shall be first, and the
> first last". I'm glad that you will now get to be first, P.F.
>
> -Oscar
>
> --------
> Oscar Zuniga
> Medford, OR
> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
> A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491113#491113
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | John Franklin <jbfjr(at)peoplepc.com> |
| Subject: | Re: P.F. Beck Flies West |
Oscar,
Great post, fortunately for me I not only got to spend a Corvair College with P.F.,
he also took me flying in his Piet. I guess the best way to describe him
is that he's one of those guys you wish you had met many years before you did.
Best Regards,
John F.
-----Original Message-----
>From: taildrags <taildrags(at)hotmail.com>
>Sent: Aug 28, 2019 11:18 PM
>To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: P.F. Beck Flies West
>
>
>I regret to say that I never met P.F. in person, but having recently lost a very
close friend whose parents said they grew tired of hearing the word 'sorry'
in connection with his life, I'll say the following instead. I'm glad to have
lived in the same era as P.F. because he brought so much to the aviation world
and to life in general. I'm glad to know that there can still be unselfish,
honorable, responsible, humble people like P.F. and I know that he has inspired
others to go and do likewise by the way he lived his life. I'm glad to read
about his accomplishments, and his contributions, and the recognition that
he received while on this earth- but I think the most telling part of what William
wrote about P.F. was captured in the picture of P.F. serving himself from
the nearly-empty warming pans in the serving line at the Corvair College buffet.
That, more than anything, exemplifies the life well lived, the life that
finds its reward in bringing joy to others. Serve oth
!
> ers first, then serve yourself when everyone's plates are filled- and you will
enjoy your meal to its very fullest because then when you sit down to eat you'll
be able to look around the table and see all those other people enjoying
their meals because of your work and sacrifice. There truly is honor in being
the last to go through the serving line, and I know that P.F. will find our Lord's
words to be true now that he is where he can realize the truth of those
words: "for the last shall be first, and the first last". I'm glad that you will
now get to be first, P.F.
>
>-Oscar
>
>--------
>Oscar Zuniga
>Medford, OR
>Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
>A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | April 1931 Modern Mechanics and Inventions for a collector |
| From: | "Heavy Iron" <ron.horton1000(at)gmail.com> |
I have read many places on the web that the Air Camper plans were first published
in the 1932 Flying and Glider Manual but that's not correct as they were first
published in 4 parts in the April thru July 1931 issues of Modern Mechanics
and Inventions.
The early issues of this magazine were packed full of plans and technical articles
for aircraft builders until sometime in 1933 when the CAA and most states
changed the rules and homebuilding of aircraft ground to a halt.
After the 1932 FGM on Ebay was purchased only a few hours after I posted notice
here I sincerely hope it went to a Pietenpol fan. Yesterday a copy of the April
1931 issue went on Ebay so I hope one of you collectors can get it as I already
have copies of the original issues.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/264450559967?ul_noapp=true
Cheers,
Ron
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491155#491155
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Piet Hinges and Horns For Sale |
| From: | "DaveG601XL" <david.m.gallagher(at)ge.com> |
I have for sale (2) Pietenpol aileron horns, (1) rudder horn and (9) hinges made
by Replicraft. The Replicraft price for these was $126. I also have about
3/4 lb. of AN301, 20 guage, 3/4" brass nails. List for these is about $17. I
will offer the lot up for $60 shipped to a US address. It's best to e-mail me
at gallagherd54(at)yahoo.com if interested.
A photo should be attached.
Dave Gallagher
--------
David Gallagher
Cincinnati, OH area
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491158#491158
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_6916_835.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Piet Hinges and Horns For Sale |
| From: | "echobravo4" <eab4(at)comcast.net> |
Dave,
Those would be elevator and rudder horns, no aileron horns.
--------
Earl Brown
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I
intended to be.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491159#491159
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Piet Hinges and Horns For Sale |
| From: | "DaveG601XL" <david.m.gallagher(at)ge.com> |
Earl,
Thanks for the correction. I have edited the original post.
--------
David Gallagher
Cincinnati, OH area
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491160#491160
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
did some more tinkering with the brakes, Made little parts to hold the cable while
the peddles were pressed. I hooked up the cables and gave the wheels a spin
to test them and they seemed to work.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491213#491213
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190906_175846_resized_172.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: put your cards on the table Gents and Ladies! |
| From: | "JSeitz" <Joachimkarlseitz(at)gmail.com> |
Hi All,
My name is Joe, and I am building my Pietenpol in Port Charlotte, Florida.
Long Fuselage, Wood
Model A Engine
Wood Gear
Motorcycle Wheels
No Brakes
Tail Skid
No Electrical
Have the tail feathers about ready for cover, puting the fuse together now. Wing
ribs are done save for varnishing.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491226#491226
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: put your cards on the table Gents and Ladies! |
| From: | "taildrags" <taildrags(at)hotmail.com> |
Hi, Joe in Port Charlotte- sounds like you've got some grass/turf to operate your
Piet off of. Probably no shortage of grass in Florida, huh? Do you have a
color scheme in mind? It seems that most of the classic-configured Piets like
those of Don Emch and Forrest Lovley feature light-colored wings with tall registration
markings, then a contrasting color fuselage with some art or a logo
on the aft fuselage sides. And do you plan to use the Stewart System or the
Poly-Fiber covering system when you get to that point?
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491235#491235
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: put your cards on the table Gents and Ladies! |
| From: | Ben Charvet <bencharvet(at)gmail.com> |
Hi Joe,
I have a Pietenpol in Titusville Florida that's been flying for 9 1/2
years. I'm at X21 which has a paved and grass strip. I think you might
want to reconsider no brakes no tailwheel unless you are planning to
operate off a grass strip exclusively. At this stage a tailwheel would
be very easy to add on, then you can land anywhere. Brakes are a nice
addition too. Just putting my cards on the table :). Pictures of my
plane and build are on the westcoastpiet site:
http://www.westcoastpiet.com/images/Ben%20Charvet/pictures.htm
Ben Charvet
NX866BC
417 hours so far..
On 9/7/2019 9:10 PM, JSeitz wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> My name is Joe, and I am building my Pietenpol in Port Charlotte, Florida.
>
> Long Fuselage, Wood
> Model A Engine
> Wood Gear
> Motorcycle Wheels
> No Brakes
> Tail Skid
> No Electrical
>
> Have the tail feathers about ready for cover, puting the fuse together now. Wing
ribs are done save for varnishing.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491226#491226
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: put your cards on the table Gents and Ladies! |
| From: | "JSeitz" <Joachimkarlseitz(at)gmail.com> |
I'm planning on only grass and keeping it as close to 1930's original as feasible.
Paint will likely be clear doped or cream wings and a black, blue, or red
fuselage. Tall numbers are a must. Probably going to use latex for the covering
process though. From what I have seen, it is durable, simple, and inexpensive.
As for the vintage flair, I am even using a mechanical airspeed indicator (Johnson)
that will be mounted out on the left jury strut.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491237#491237
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jack Philips" <jack(at)bedfordlandings.com> |
| Subject: | Re: put your cards on the table Gents and Ladies! |
Joe,
Talk with Gene Rambo. He built a "purist" Pietenpol with Model A, tailskid and
no brakes. He found flying it to Brodhead from Virginia just how limiting that
can be. In the Midwest where there are plenty of grass strips it might not
be much of a problem, but in Virginia, even if you can find a grass strip they
usually don't have fuel.
Jack Phillips
Pietenpol Air Camper, NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
A-65 powered Pietenpol, wire wheels, brakes and tailwheel
RV-10, N142KW Still in phase 1 testing
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ben Charvet
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2019 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: put your cards on the table Gents and Ladies!
Hi Joe,
I have a Pietenpol in Titusville Florida that's been flying for 9 1/2 years. I'm
at X21 which has a paved and grass strip. I think you might want to reconsider
no brakes no tailwheel unless you are planning to operate off a grass strip
exclusively. At this stage a tailwheel would be very easy to add on, then
you can land anywhere. Brakes are a nice addition too. Just putting my cards
on the table :). Pictures of my plane and build are on the westcoastpiet site:
http://www.westcoastpiet.com/images/Ben%20Charvet/pictures.htm
Ben Charvet
NX866BC
417 hours so far..
On 9/7/2019 9:10 PM, JSeitz wrote:
> -->
>
> Hi All,
>
> My name is Joe, and I am building my Pietenpol in Port Charlotte, Florida.
>
> Long Fuselage, Wood
> Model A Engine
> Wood Gear
> Motorcycle Wheels
> No Brakes
> Tail Skid
> No Electrical
>
> Have the tail feathers about ready for cover, puting the fuse together now. Wing
ribs are done save for varnishing.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491226#491226
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: put your cards on the table Gents and Ladies! |
| From: | Kip Gardner <kipgohio1957(at)gmail.com> |
I have not heard from Gene in years and I dont think hes on this list any more.
So, did he decide to live with the limitations, or make changes?
> On Sep 8, 2019, at 6:46 PM, Jack Philips wrote:
>
>
> Joe,
>
> Talk with Gene Rambo. He built a "purist" Pietenpol with Model A, tailskid and
no brakes. He found flying it to Brodhead from Virginia just how limiting
that can be. In the Midwest where there are plenty of grass strips it might not
be much of a problem, but in Virginia, even if you can find a grass strip they
usually don't have fuel.
>
> Jack Phillips
> Pietenpol Air Camper, NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
> A-65 powered Pietenpol, wire wheels, brakes and tailwheel
>
> RV-10, N142KW Still in phase 1 testing
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ben Charvet
> Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2019 1:41 PM
> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: put your cards on the table Gents and Ladies!
>
>
> Hi Joe,
> I have a Pietenpol in Titusville Florida that's been flying for 9 1/2 years.
I'm at X21 which has a paved and grass strip. I think you might want to reconsider
no brakes no tailwheel unless you are planning to operate off a grass strip
exclusively. At this stage a tailwheel would be very easy to add on, then
you can land anywhere. Brakes are a nice addition too. Just putting my cards
on the table :). Pictures of my plane and build are on the westcoastpiet site:
> http://www.westcoastpiet.com/images/Ben%20Charvet/pictures.htm
>
> Ben Charvet
> NX866BC
> 417 hours so far..
>
> On 9/7/2019 9:10 PM, JSeitz wrote:
>> -->
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> My name is Joe, and I am building my Pietenpol in Port Charlotte, Florida.
>>
>> Long Fuselage, Wood
>> Model A Engine
>> Wood Gear
>> Motorcycle Wheels
>> No Brakes
>> Tail Skid
>> No Electrical
>>
>> Have the tail feathers about ready for cover, puting the fuse together now.
Wing ribs are done save for varnishing.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491226#491226
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jack Philips" <jack(at)bedfordlandings.com> |
| Subject: | Re: put your cards on the table Gents and Ladies! |
He left the plane in Brodhead for a year before hiring someone else to bring it
back to Virginia. I don't recall but I think it came back by truck. As far
as I know he hasn't flown it much - still having some problems with his engine.
Jack Phillips
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kip Gardner
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2019 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: put your cards on the table Gents and Ladies!
-->
I have not heard from Gene in years and I dont think hes on this list any more.
So, did he decide to live with the limitations, or make changes?
> On Sep 8, 2019, at 6:46 PM, Jack Philips wrote:
>
> -->
>
> Joe,
>
> Talk with Gene Rambo. He built a "purist" Pietenpol with Model A, tailskid and
no brakes. He found flying it to Brodhead from Virginia just how limiting
that can be. In the Midwest where there are plenty of grass strips it might not
be much of a problem, but in Virginia, even if you can find a grass strip they
usually don't have fuel.
>
> Jack Phillips
> Pietenpol Air Camper, NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
> A-65 powered Pietenpol, wire wheels, brakes and tailwheel
>
> RV-10, N142KW Still in phase 1 testing
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ben
> Charvet
> Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2019 1:41 PM
> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: put your cards on the table Gents and Ladies!
>
> -->
>
> Hi Joe,
> I have a Pietenpol in Titusville Florida that's been flying for 9 1/2 years.
I'm at X21 which has a paved and grass strip. I think you might want to reconsider
no brakes no tailwheel unless you are planning to operate off a grass strip
exclusively. At this stage a tailwheel would be very easy to add on, then
you can land anywhere. Brakes are a nice addition too. Just putting my cards
on the table :). Pictures of my plane and build are on the westcoastpiet site:
> http://www.westcoastpiet.com/images/Ben%20Charvet/pictures.htm
>
> Ben Charvet
> NX866BC
> 417 hours so far..
>
> On 9/7/2019 9:10 PM, JSeitz wrote:
>> -->
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> My name is Joe, and I am building my Pietenpol in Port Charlotte, Florida.
>>
>> Long Fuselage, Wood
>> Model A Engine
>> Wood Gear
>> Motorcycle Wheels
>> No Brakes
>> Tail Skid
>> No Electrical
>>
>> Have the tail feathers about ready for cover, puting the fuse together now.
Wing ribs are done save for varnishing.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491226#491226
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
I cut and glued in the wood behind the plywood web of my ailerons.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491272#491272
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190910_135459_resized_345.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Quick instrumentation and elt question |
| From: | "JSeitz" <Joachimkarlseitz(at)gmail.com> |
1. Does a Ford powered Piet need an oil pressure gauge?
2. Does a Piet need an ELT?
I tried reading the refs on these but ended up just as confuddled as in the first
place.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491320#491320
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Andrew Eldredge <andrew.eldredge(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Quick instrumentation and elt question |
Quick answers
Yes on oil pressure. 91.205
Elt, optional if you only fly solo. 91.207
On Mon, Sep 16, 2019, 4:04 PM JSeitz wrote:
> >
>
> 1. Does a Ford powered Piet need an oil pressure gauge?
>
> 2. Does a Piet need an ELT?
>
> I tried reading the refs on these but ended up just as confuddled as in
> the first place.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491320#491320
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Quick instrumentation and elt question |
| From: | "echobravo4" <eab4(at)comcast.net> |
Actually, it's not if you fly solo or not-
If the plane has more than one seat, you are required to have an ELT.
If it has one seat, you don't have to have one
--------
Earl Brown
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I
intended to be.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491327#491327
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Quick instrumentation and elt question |
| From: | "JSeitz" <Joachimkarlseitz(at)gmail.com> |
Once again you guys are awesome and on the spot with answers! Thank you Andrew
and Echo!
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491342#491342
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Southwestern Ohio Regional Fly In |
| From: | "danoliver" <danoliver909(at)gmail.com> |
Hope to see some Air Campers next weekend!
--------
Dan O
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491438#491438
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/sworfi_flyer_2019_776.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Turtle Deck Angles |
| From: | "danoliver" <danoliver909(at)gmail.com> |
Working on building the turtle deck last night and was fretting over how on earth
I was going to get all those goofy angles at the tail end to come out right.
Figured itd be about a hundred trial and error trips to the disc sander per
stringer.
Woke up this morning with an AHAH! moment (looking back now it seems more like
a DUH moment). I just glued a piece of 60 grit sandpaper to the thinnest piece
of scrap ply I had. Slipped it under the stringers and sanded away. Took all
of 10 minutes and the angles just found themselves.
--------
Dan O
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491439#491439
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0901_241.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0902_146.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Turtle Deck Angles |
| From: | "taildrags" <taildrags(at)hotmail.com> |
I love it when a plan comes together ;o)
-Oscar
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491442#491442
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "skipgadd(at)earthlink.net" <skipgadd(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Turtle Deck Angles |
Hi Dan, Hope to see you Sunday at Winemiller Farm.
About your turtle Deck. If you look at the plans Drawing No.2 the upper left, "Side
view of Rudder and fin". I believe the turtle deck transitions from curved
at the back of pilot seat to flat at the LE of the horz Stabilizer. If the aft
end of the turtle deck is curved it makes kind of an awkward place with the
horz stab being flat. I would never have figured this out had I not had the horz
stab C-clamped to the fuze when I built the turtle deck.
Skip
-----Original Message-----
>From: danoliver <danoliver909(at)gmail.com>
>Sent: Sep 22, 2019 1:34 PM
>To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Turtle Deck Angles
>
>
>Working on building the turtle deck last night and was fretting over how on earth
I was going to get all those goofy angles at the tail end to come out right.
Figured itd be about a hundred trial and error trips to the disc sander per
stringer.
>Woke up this morning with an AHAH! moment (looking back now it seems more like
a DUH moment). I just glued a piece of 60 grit sandpaper to the thinnest piece
of scrap ply I had. Slipped it under the stringers and sanded away. Took all
of 10 minutes and the angles just found themselves.
>
>--------
>Dan O
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491439#491439
>
>
>Attachments:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0901_241.jpg
>http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0902_146.jpg
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Turtle Deck Angles |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
i know mine isn't a true piet but here is how i did mine
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491469#491469
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190925_133502_863.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Turtle Deck Angles |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
I know mine isn't a real piet but here is how i did mine
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491470#491470
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190925_133502_resized_128.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
i finished the wood work on my aileron
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491484#491484
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190926_100541_resized_172.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
got a coat of varnish put on one of the ailerons today
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491494#491494
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20190927_163808_190.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch(at)gmail.com> |
I have searched but I have not found, Where is the discussion on making
wooden props? A buddy is interested. He is an IA and loves old slow planes.
(He has a Taylorcraft and a Funk) Says he wants to build a tube piet.
--
Blue Skies,
Steve D
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Gerrit-Jan Kaal <gjhkaal(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Making a prop |
You could start here:
http://www.westcoastpiet.com/images/Construction/HowIMakeProp.pdf
There are some NASA clips on YouTube, about propeller manufacturing:
https://youtu.be/l9UbnJlhrHA
(Part 1 of 3)
On Sat, 28 Sep 2019, 18:18 Steven Dortch, wrote:
> I have searched but I have not found, Where is the discussion on making
> wooden props? A buddy is interested. He is an IA and loves old slow planes.
> (He has a Taylorcraft and a Funk) Says he wants to build a tube piet.
>
> --
> Blue Skies,
> Steve D
>
On Sat, 28 Sep 2019, 18:18 Steven Dortch, wrote:
> I have searched but I have not found, Where is the discussion on making
> wooden props? A buddy is interested. He is an IA and loves old slow planes.
> (He has a Taylorcraft and a Funk) Says he wants to build a tube piet.
>
> --
> Blue Skies,
> Steve D
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Clif Dawson" <cdawson5854(at)shaw.ca> |
| Subject: | Re: Making a prop |
Schubert -- The man who made the corvair prop for Bernard;
https://78462f86-a-05384b27-s-sites.googlegroups.com/a/flyingflea.com.ar/
www/home/traditional-fforg-menu-1/wood-props/propimages/Wprop72.pdf?attac
hauth=ANoY7coYyFYpv_BN5u5NxeJsQ0ZvtYonadBtsYrakHiz31aQ3x-6ORPjde3zlIbK0
DlZpevssW_Zv1aM2kC2kNl3JaoMeHa1V2mAY713NmxSG1W95u-33lOz8_PUSaoGonP3VVl1Xf
MI_xTkWWoY3ICnpGlBY5BUvEXDoYKw4Y4p7DIcAzotExtQXaY0ulf0H9kA_1qAbD6GkHMWBZP
K8gDPuAIWnMfO4ja0Qp3RhU8tR-Nt21V5sThdKAbQ_Sgs1idjGjz7L-yH603j0dHOz6cjYB55
9eZxrA%3D%3D&attredirects=0
Another one;
https://docs.google.com/a/flyingflea.com.ar/viewer?a=v&pid=sites&srci
d=Zmx5aW5nZmxlYS5jb20uYXJ8d3d3fGd4Ojc2NDkzZTAwNzc5OWFjOA
Pics are my prop.
----- Original Message -----
From: Steven Dortch
To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 9:13 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Making a prop
I have searched but I have not found, Where is the discussion on
making wooden props? A buddy is interested. He is an IA and loves old
slow planes. (He has a Taylorcraft and a Funk) Says he wants to build a
tube piet.
--
Blue Skies,
Steve D
Virus-free. www.avg.com
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | helspersew(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Making a prop |
Or here=C2-http://www.actechbooks.com/products/act615/
-----Original Message-----
From: Gerrit-Jan Kaal <gjhkaal(at)gmail.com>
Sent: Sun, Sep 29, 2019 2:11 am
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Making a prop
You could start here:
http://www.westcoastpiet.com/images/Construction/HowIMakeProp.pdf
There are some NASA clips on YouTube, about propeller manufacturing:
https://youtu.be/l9UbnJlhrHA
(Part 1 of 3)
On Sat, 28 Sep 2019, 18:18 Steven Dortch, wrote
:
I have searched but I have not found, Where is the discussion on making woo
den props? A buddy is interested. He is an IA and loves old slow planes. (H
e has a Taylorcraft and a Funk)=C2- Says he wants to build a tube piet.
=C2-
--
Blue Skies,
Steve D
On Sat, 28 Sep 2019, 18:18 Steven Dortch, wrote
:
I have searched but I have not found, Where is the discussion on making woo
den props? A buddy is interested. He is an IA and loves old slow planes. (H
e has a Taylorcraft and a Funk)=C2- Says he wants to build a tube piet.
=C2-
--
Blue Skies,
Steve D
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
i snuck off and turned a strip of metal into a steering bar and a bracket for the
wires to the horizontal stab.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491573#491573
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20191001_161009_resized_763.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
nothing picture worthy done, but I have been working on getting a coat of varnish
on the wings. I plan on doing 2 coats so this may take a while
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491673#491673
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | Kip Gardner <kipgohio1957(at)gmail.com> |
Can you set up to spray it? Goes a lot faster, and more consistent coverage.
Kip Gardner
> On Oct 7, 2019, at 1:44 PM, cdlwingnut wrote:
>
>
> nothing picture worthy done, but I have been working on getting a coat of varnish
on the wings. I plan on doing 2 coats so this may take a while
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491673#491673
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "taildrags" <taildrags(at)hotmail.com> |
There has been an easy little setup, maybe one of Bill Rewey's ideas or maybe just
an old-time solution to varnishing, where you get an inexpensive and fairly
small paintbrush that can fit into most of the nooks and crannies of the ribs
and sticks, plus a squeeze-handle oilcan, and a length of aquarium tubing to
connect the two. Just get a ty-rap or zip tie to secure one end of the tubing
to the brush handle so the end of it points onto the brush bristles and the
other end goes on the nipple of the oil can. You can brush away with one hand
and squeeze the oil can handle as required to flow varnish onto the brush as
you go. Periodic refills of the oil can are necessary, but at least you're not
having to dip the brush into the can of varnish and give it a wipe time after
time after time. Worth a try (it's cheap enough), and some mineral spirits
cleans things up when you're done. You can also add some mineral spirits to the
varnish to thin it out a little so it'll flow out and soak into the wood quicker
and easier. Again, worth experimenting with depending on the temperature
you're trying to work in.
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491681#491681
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
I do plan to spay it into some of the tight places
Taildrag i like your idea may give it a try but it sounds like it could be messy
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491686#491686
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Glen Schweizer <glenschweizer(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
Make sure that whatever covering system you are using is going to be comparable
with any varnish it will contact. Quite a chemical battle ensues if you try to
put a dope or vinyl product over the top oven on catalyzed varnish I promise.
Most of your Hardware varnish will dissolve or lift if exposed to solvents
> On Oct 8, 2019, at 9:25 AM, cdlwingnut wrote:
>
>
> I do plan to spay it into some of the tight places
> Taildrag i like your idea may give it a try but it sounds like it could be messy
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491686#491686
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
I worked some more on getting the wings varnished. I plan to use the stewart system
and I have talked to them to confirm the varnish i am using will work with
their stuff.
I also took a break from varnishing to make the parts for the pulleys to the aileron
control wires to attach to.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491693#491693
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20191008_143829_resized_794.jpg
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "jarheadpilot82" <jarheadpilot82(at)hotmail.com> |
I was looking at your Heel brake pedals, and I was curious. Are you going to attach
a return spring to bring the pedal back to neutral? I plan on using heel
brakes as well and was curious about how you planned to deal with that.
--------
Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491732#491732
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
| From: | "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com> |
mine are band breaks so the tension of the band returns the peddle.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491753#491753
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Semih Oksay <semihoksay(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 10/10/19 |
I am using hydraulic disc brakes with heel pedals. When released, caliper
pushes the pedal back. I just had to make a stop for the pedal not to come
back excessively.
Cheers
Semih Oksay, Istanbul, Turkey
On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 9:43 AM Pietenpol-List Digest Server <
pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> wrote:
> *
>
> =================================================
> Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive
> =================================================
>
> Today's complete Pietenpol-List Digest can also be found in either of the
> two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted
> in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes
> and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version
> of the Pietenpol-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor
> such as Notepad or with a web browser.
>
> HTML Version:
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 19-10-10&Archive=Pietenpol
>
> Text Version:
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 19-10-10&Archive=Pietenpol
>
>
> ===============================================
> EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive
> ===============================================
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Pietenpol-List Digest Archive
> ---
> Total Messages Posted Thu 10/10/19: 2
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Today's Message Index:
> ----------------------
>
> 1. 06:33 AM - Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet (jarheadpilot82)
> 2. 04:29 PM - Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet (cdlwingnut)
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 1
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet
> From: "jarheadpilot82" <jarheadpilot82(at)hotmail.com>
>
>
> I was looking at your Heel brake pedals, and I was curious. Are you going
> to attach
> a return spring to bring the pedal back to neutral? I plan on using heel
> brakes as well and was curious about how you planned to deal with that.
>
> --------
> Semper Fi,
>
> Terry Hand
> Athens, GA
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491732#491732
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 2
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet
> From: "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com>
>
>
> mine are band breaks so the tension of the band returns the peddle.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491753#491753
>
>
--
Semih Oksay
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Semih Oksay <semihoksay(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 10/10/19 |
I am using hydraulic disc brakes with heel pedals. When released, caliper
pushes the pedal back. I just had to make a stop for the pedal not to come
back excessively.
Cheers
Semih Oksay, Istanbul, Turkey
On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 9:43 AM Pietenpol-List Digest Server <
pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> wrote:
> *
>
> =================================================
> Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive
> =================================================
>
> Today's complete Pietenpol-List Digest can also be found in either of the
> two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted
> in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes
> and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version
> of the Pietenpol-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor
> such as Notepad or with a web browser.
>
> HTML Version:
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 19-10-10&Archive=Pietenpol
>
> Text Version:
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 19-10-10&Archive=Pietenpol
>
>
> ===============================================
> EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive
> ===============================================
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Pietenpol-List Digest Archive
> ---
> Total Messages Posted Thu 10/10/19: 2
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Today's Message Index:
> ----------------------
>
> 1. 06:33 AM - Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet (jarheadpilot82)
> 2. 04:29 PM - Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet (cdlwingnut)
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 1
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet
> From: "jarheadpilot82" <jarheadpilot82(at)hotmail.com>
>
>
> I was looking at your Heel brake pedals, and I was curious. Are you going
> to attach
> a return spring to bring the pedal back to neutral? I plan on using heel
> brakes as well and was curious about how you planned to deal with that.
>
> --------
> Semper Fi,
>
> Terry Hand
> Athens, GA
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491732#491732
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 2
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet
> From: "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad(at)hotmail.com>
>
>
> mine are band breaks so the tension of the band returns the peddle.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491753#491753
>
>
--
Semih Oksay
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: laminating struts |
| From: | "wtourn" <wtourn(at)hotmail.com> |
a question why not use a single piece of wood with that need to paste several thanks
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491942#491942
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jack Philips" <jack(at)bedfordlandings.com> |
| Subject: | Re: laminating struts |
I'm not sure I understand your question. If you are asking why laminate,
there are a couple of reasons:
1. Laminated struts tend to be a bit stiffer than a solid piece of wood
since the grains do not run exactly parallel from one lamina to the next
2. Laminated struts are not as likely to split as the crack stops when it
reaches the lamination
3. Laminated struts off the ability to hollow out the middle to save weight
or allow a chase to run wiring or hydraulic lines. For example, I laminated
the spruce landing gear struts on my Pietenpol. I used a router to hollow
out a groove in the two middle laminations that allowed me to run my
hydraulic brake lines INSIDE the strut (see picture below)
4. Laminating allows you to make curved parts such as the bows that support
the metal around the cockpits, as shown below:
Or the curved cutout in the centersection (if you don't use a flop):
So my question is, why would you NOT want to make laminations? They are
strong, they are very stiff, they are light and they are fun to make.
What's not to like?
Jack Phillips
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
Pietenpol Air Camper NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
RV-10 N142KW
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of wtourn
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2019 10:09 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: laminating struts
wtourn(at)hotmail.com>
a question why not use a single piece of wood with that need to paste
several thanks
Read this topic online here:
<http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491942#491942>
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491942#491942
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Jack <jack(at)textors.com> |
| Subject: | Re: laminating struts |
What Jack said so well...
Sent from my iPhone
> On Oct 24, 2019, at 1:37 PM, Jack Philips wrote
:
>
> I=99m not sure I understand your question. If you are asking why la
minate, there are a couple of reasons:
>
> 1. Laminated struts tend to be a bit stiffer than a solid piece of wood si
nce the grains do not run exactly parallel from one lamina to the next
> 2. Laminated struts are not as likely to split as the crack stops when it
reaches the lamination
> 3. Laminated struts off the ability to hollow out the middle to save weig
ht or allow a chase to run wiring or hydraulic lines. For example, I lamina
ted the spruce landing gear struts on my Pietenpol. I used a router to hol
low out a groove in the two middle laminations that allowed me to run my hyd
raulic brake lines INSIDE the strut (see picture below)
>
>
>
> 4. Laminating allows you to make curved parts such as the bows that suppor
t the metal around the cockpits, as shown below:
>
>
>
> Or the curved cutout in the centersection (if you don=99t use a flop
):
>
>
>
> So my question is, why would you NOT want to make laminations? They are s
trong, they are very stiff, they are light and they are fun to make. What
=99s not to like?
>
> Jack Phillips
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>
> Pietenpol Air Camper NX899JP =9CIcarus Plummet=9D
> RV-10 N142KW
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li
st-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of wtourn
> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2019 10:09 AM
> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: laminating struts
>
>
> a question why not use a single piece of wood with that need to paste seve
ral thanks
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491942#491942
>
>
>
>
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
>
> http://forums.matronics.com
>
> http://wiki.matronics.com
>
> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Mark Lisa Kellyn Bowler <braywood(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: laminating struts |
Gorgeous work Jack!!!
Mark Bowler
Broughshane,
U.K.
"It=92s all about inspiring the kids. The aircraft is merely the catalyst."
Graham Harris
"Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication" Leonardo da Vinci
________________________________
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com <owner-pietenpol-list-serve
r(at)matronics.com> on behalf of Jack Philips
Sent: 24 October 2019 18:37
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: laminating struts
I=92m not sure I understand your question. If you are asking why laminate,
there are a couple of reasons:
1. Laminated struts tend to be a bit stiffer than a solid piece of wood sin
ce the grains do not run exactly parallel from one lamina to the next
2. Laminated struts are not as likely to split as the crack stops when it
reaches the lamination
3. Laminated struts off the ability to hollow out the middle to save weigh
t or allow a chase to run wiring or hydraulic lines. For example, I lamina
ted the spruce landing gear struts on my Pietenpol. I used a router to ho
llow out a groove in the two middle laminations that allowed me to run my h
ydraulic brake lines INSIDE the strut (see picture below)
[cid:image001.jpg(at)01D58A78.88E5AE40]
4. Laminating allows you to make curved parts such as the bows that support
the metal around the cockpits, as shown below:
[cid:image002.jpg(at)01D58A78.88E5AE40]
Or the curved cutout in the centersection (if you don=92t use a flop):
[cid:image003.jpg(at)01D58A78.88E5AE40]
So my question is, why would you NOT want to make laminations? They are st
rong, they are very stiff, they are light and they are fun to make. What
=92s not to like?
Jack Phillips
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
Pietenpol Air Camper NX899JP =93Icarus Plummet=94
RV-10 N142KW
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis
t-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of wtourn
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2019 10:09 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: laminating struts
tourn(at)hotmail.com>>
a question why not use a single piece of wood with that need to paste sever
al thanks
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491942#491942
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
http://forums.matronics.com
http://wiki.matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Semih Oksay <semihoksay(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: laminating struts |
You may also save wood and get almost any dimension (especially length) of
planks.
Semih Oksay
Building an Air Camper, Istanbul, Turkey
On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 3:45 PM Mark Lisa Kellyn Bowler <
braywood(at)hotmail.com> wrote:
> Gorgeous work Jack!!!
>
> Mark Bowler
> Broughshane,
> U.K.
> *"It=99s all about inspiring the kids. The aircraft is merely the
> catalyst." Graham Harris*
>
> *"Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication" Leonardo da Vinci *
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com <
> owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com> on behalf of Jack Philips <
> jack(at)bedfordlandings.com>
> *Sent:* 24 October 2019 18:37
> *To:* pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
> *Subject:* RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: laminating struts
>
>
> I=99m not sure I understand your question. If you are asking why l
aminate,
> there are a couple of reasons:
>
>
> 1. Laminated struts tend to be a bit stiffer than a solid piece of wood
> since the grains do not run exactly parallel from one lamina to the next
>
> 2. Laminated struts are not as likely to split as the crack stops when i
t
> reaches the lamination
>
> 3. Laminated struts off the ability to hollow out the middle to save
> weight or allow a chase to run wiring or hydraulic lines. For example, I
> laminated the spruce landing gear struts on my Pietenpol. I used a rout
er
> to hollow out a groove in the two middle laminations that allowed me to r
un
> my hydraulic brake lines INSIDE the strut (see picture below)
>
>
> 4. Laminating allows you to make curved parts such as the bows that
> support the metal around the cockpits, as shown below:
>
>
> Or the curved cutout in the centersection (if you don=99t use a flo
p):
>
>
> So my question is, why would you NOT want to make laminations? They are
> strong, they are very stiff, they are light and they are fun to make.
> What=99s not to like?
>
>
> Jack Phillips
>
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>
>
> Pietenpol Air Camper NX899JP =9CIcarus Plummet=9D
>
> RV-10 N142KW
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of wtourn
> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2019 10:09 AM
> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: laminating struts
>
>
> a question why not use a single piece of wood with that need to paste
> several thanks
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491942#491942
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
>
> http://forums.matronics.com
>
> http://wiki.matronics.com
>
> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
>
--
Semih Oksay
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Dave Boyd <dndboyd2(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 10/25/19 |
Nice work Jack. Beautiful
On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 1:43 AM Pietenpol-List Digest Server <
pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> wrote:
> *
>
> =================================================
> Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive
> =================================================
>
> Today's complete Pietenpol-List Digest can also be found in either of the
> two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted
> in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes
> and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version
> of the Pietenpol-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor
> such as Notepad or with a web browser.
>
> HTML Version:
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 19-10-25&Archive=Pietenpol
>
> Text Version:
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 19-10-25&Archive=Pietenpol
>
>
> ===============================================
> EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive
> ===============================================
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Pietenpol-List Digest Archive
> ---
> Total Messages Posted Fri 10/25/19: 2
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Today's Message Index:
> ----------------------
>
> 1. 05:42 AM - Re: Re: laminating struts (Mark Lisa Kellyn Bowler)
> 2. 07:35 AM - Re: Re: laminating struts (Semih Oksay)
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 1
> _____________________________________
>
>
> From: Mark Lisa Kellyn Bowler <braywood(at)hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: laminating struts
>
> Gorgeous work Jack!!!
>
> Mark Bowler
> Broughshane,
> U.K.
> "It=92s all about inspiring the kids. The aircraft is merely the catalyst."
> Graham Harris
> "Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication" Leonardo da Vinci
>
> ________________________________
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
> r(at)matronics.com> on behalf of Jack Philips
> Sent: 24 October 2019 18:37
> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: laminating struts
>
>
> I=92m not sure I understand your question. If you are asking why laminate,
> there are a couple of reasons:
>
>
> 1. Laminated struts tend to be a bit stiffer than a solid piece of wood sin
> ce the grains do not run exactly parallel from one lamina to the next
>
> 2. Laminated struts are not as likely to split as the crack stops when it
> reaches the lamination
>
> 3. Laminated struts off the ability to hollow out the middle to save weigh
> t or allow a chase to run wiring or hydraulic lines. For example, I lamina
> ted the spruce landing gear struts on my Pietenpol. I used a router to ho
> llow out a groove in the two middle laminations that allowed me to run my h
> ydraulic brake lines INSIDE the strut (see picture below)
>
>
> [cid:image001.jpg(at)01D58A78.88E5AE40]
>
>
> 4. Laminating allows you to make curved parts such as the bows that support
> the metal around the cockpits, as shown below:
>
>
> [cid:image002.jpg(at)01D58A78.88E5AE40]
>
>
> Or the curved cutout in the centersection (if you don=92t use a flop):
>
>
> [cid:image003.jpg(at)01D58A78.88E5AE40]
>
>
> So my question is, why would you NOT want to make laminations? They are st
> rong, they are very stiff, they are light and they are fun to make. What
> =92s not to like?
>
>
> Jack Phillips
>
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>
>
> Pietenpol Air Camper NX899JP =93Icarus Plummet=94
>
> RV-10 N142KW
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-pietenpol-lis
> t-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of wtourn
> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2019 10:09 AM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: laminating struts
>
>
> tourn(at)hotmail.com>>
>
>
> a question why not use a single piece of wood with that need to paste sever
> al thanks
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491942#491942
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
>
> http://forums.matronics.com
>
> http://wiki.matronics.com
>
> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 2
> _____________________________________
>
>
> From: Semih Oksay <semihoksay(at)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: laminating struts
>
> You may also save wood and get almost any dimension (especially length) of
> planks.
>
> Semih Oksay
> Building an Air Camper, Istanbul, Turkey
>
> On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 3:45 PM Mark Lisa Kellyn Bowler <
> braywood(at)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Gorgeous work Jack!!!
> >
> > Mark Bowler
> > Broughshane,
> > U.K.
> > *"It=99s all about inspiring the kids. The aircraft is merely the
> > catalyst." Graham Harris*
> >
> > *"Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication" Leonardo da Vinci *
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com <
> > owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com> on behalf of Jack Philips <
> > jack(at)bedfordlandings.com>
> > *Sent:* 24 October 2019 18:37
> > *To:* pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
> > *Subject:* RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: laminating struts
> >
> >
> > I=99m not sure I understand your question. If you are asking why l
> aminate,
> > there are a couple of reasons:
> >
> >
> > 1. Laminated struts tend to be a bit stiffer than a solid piece of wood
> > since the grains do not run exactly parallel from one lamina to the next
> >
> > 2. Laminated struts are not as likely to split as the crack stops when i
> t
> > reaches the lamination
> >
> > 3. Laminated struts off the ability to hollow out the middle to save
> > weight or allow a chase to run wiring or hydraulic lines. For example, I
> > laminated the spruce landing gear struts on my Pietenpol. I used a rout
> er
> > to hollow out a groove in the two middle laminations that allowed me to r
> un
> > my hydraulic brake lines INSIDE the strut (see picture below)
> >
> >
> > 4. Laminating allows you to make curved parts such as the bows that
> > support the metal around the cockpits, as shown below:
> >
> >
> > Or the curved cutout in the centersection (if you don=99t use a flo
> p):
> >
> >
> > So my question is, why would you NOT want to make laminations? They are
> > strong, they are very stiff, they are light and they are fun to make.
> > What=99s not to like?
> >
> >
> > Jack Phillips
> >
> > Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
> >
> >
> > Pietenpol Air Camper NX899JP =9CIcarus Plummet=9D
> >
> > RV-10 N142KW
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:
> > owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of wtourn
> > Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2019 10:09 AM
> > To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
> > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: laminating struts
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > a question why not use a single piece of wood with that need to paste
> > several thanks
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491942#491942
> >
> >
> > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com
> >
> > http://wiki.matronics.com
> >
> > http://www.matronics.com/contribution
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Semih Oksay
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: ford oil pressure |
| From: | "Vincent Dunn" <vincentkdunn(at)yahoo.com> |
Jeff Bender do you have any updates to this thread that would assist me in increasing
the oil pressure system for my Model A? Im preparing to assemble my motor
this winter. Thanks.
--------
Vincent Dunn
Salem Oregon
vincentkdunn(at)yahoo.com
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=492003#492003
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: ford oil pressure |
| From: | "Vincent Dunn" <vincentkdunn(at)yahoo.com> |
Jeff Bender do you have any updates to this thread that would assist me in increasing
the oil pressure system for my Model A? Im preparing to assemble my motor
this winter. Thanks.
--------
Vincent Dunn
Salem Oregon
vincentkdunn(at)yahoo.com
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=492004#492004
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Ernest Moreno <ewmoreno1(at)outlook.com> |
| Subject: | Re: ford oil pressure |
I will see you Monday afternoon at your hangar.
Ernie
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com On Behalf Of Vincent Dunn
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 10:06 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: ford oil pressure
-->
Jeff Bender do you have any updates to this thread that would assist me in increasing
the oil pressure system for my Model A? Im preparing to assemble my motor
this winter. Thanks.
--------
Vincent Dunn
Salem Oregon
vincentkdunn(at)yahoo.com
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=492003#492003
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: ford oil pressure |
| From: | "taildrags" <taildrags(at)hotmail.com> |
Aha! Working on Ford engine oil pressure improvements! Sounds like an enjoyable
work session...
February 09, 2019 - October 31, 2019
Pietenpol-Archive.digest.vol-py