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From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
Subject: Dynon report
Date: Oct 06, 2003
My Dynon's internal compass is off by 45'. The external improves to 20' error. That's out of the box with no calibration. Maybe calibration will improve it....I hope. - Larry Bowen Larry(at)BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Lockamy, Jack L [mailto:jack.lockamy(at)navy.mil] > Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 1:05 PM > To: rv-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV-List: Dynon report > > > > > > Mike (and others), > > I spoke with an engineer at Dynon this AM about the > accuracy/inaccuracy of the EFIS-D10 Internal Mag -vs- the > External Magnometer. The engineer I spoke with said +/- 10 > degrees is the BEST accuracy they were aware of with the > Internal Compass and the External was good to +/- 3-5 degrees. > Of course his comments were prefaced with "each > panel/installation will vary somewhat depending on what else > is the panel which may cause some interference". > > How accurate do you fee YOUR Internal Compass is -vs- the External? > > Thanks for your time and your report. > > Jack Lockamy > RV-7A QB > > > > > > > Re: RV-List: Dynon report > > > > > Mike (and others), > > > I spoke with an engineer at Dynon > this AM about the accuracy/inaccuracy of the EFIS-D10 > Internal Mag -vs- the External Magnometer. The engineer > I spoke with said +/- 10 degrees is the BEST accuracy they > were aware of with the Internal Compass and the External was > good to +/- 3-5 degrees. Of course his comments were > prefaced with each panel/installation will vary > somewhat depending on what else is the panel which may cause > some interference. > > How accurate do you fee YOUR > Internal Compass is -vs- the External? > > Thanks for your time and your > report. > > Jack Lockamy > > RV-7A QB > > > > > > > =========== > Matronics Forums. > =========== > http://www.matronics.com/trouble-report > > =========== > =========== > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Wheeler North <wnorth(at)sdccd.cc.ca.us>
Subject: Rudder
Date: Oct 06, 2003
Jerry, I have to fess up and say that I was at the home group flyin, although my landing probably sucked I don't have any recollection of running into anything, much less an airplane. I am also greatly dismayed that someone would do this and not say something. That's tanamount to an act of terrorism, and as such, I will be happy to give them their last ride. Actually I had no idea the event was happening, I was on my way to AWO and had to pee. Scapoose tends to have great fuel prices so it seemed like a win win. On short final it occured to me that there were an extrodinarily large number of RV's in the air and on the ground. ;{) I would love to know if this mod made any significant change in airspeeds, and what did you have to do to get the gap fairing to fit the new stab? Given my aversion to plastic, that seems like the worst part of the job. I would also love to know what the approximate costs were, and did you keep a copy of the parts list you used to order from. thanks for the updates W ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Ed Perry" <eperry(at)san.rr.com>
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Subject: Parts for sale
Date: Oct 06, 2003
Potter Brumfield Circuit Breakers: W58 1X10amp $5.25@ W58 2X15amp $5.25@ Potter Brumfield Pull Breakers: W23 4X 1amp $11.00@ W23 1X 5amp $ 6.00@ W23 3X50amp $ 6.00@ Van's Plastic 2" eyeball vents (2) $10.00@ Vans Brake Fluid Reservoir (1) $10.00 UMA Dual diaphragm MP gauge Brand New Part #7-200-35 $80.00 Used Beechcraft Volts/Load meter $10.00 NOS Control stick grip. Military, looks like P51 grip. PTT switch not installed. $8.00 Any questions feel free to email and pictures are available on request. All prices plus shipping... Ed Perry eperry(at)san.rr.com Potter Brumfield Circuit Breakers: W58 1X10amp $5.25@ W58 2X15amp $5.25@ Potter Brumfield Pull Breakers: W23 4X 1amp $11.00@ W23 1X 5amp $ 6.00@ W23 3X50amp $ 6.00@ Van=92s Plastic 2=94 eyeball vents (2) $10.00@ Vans Brake Fluid Reservoir (1) $10.00 UMA Dual diaphragm MP gauge Brand New Part #7-200-35 $80.00 Used Beechcraft Volts/Load meter $10.00 NOS Control stick grip. Military, looks like P51 grip. PTT switch not installed. $8.00 Any questions feel free to email and pictures are available on request. All prices plus shipping=85.. Ed Perry eperry(at)san.rr.com ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 06, 2003
From: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: RE: New rudder
Hi Mike, As has been said already they are the same unless you get an early model -7 rudder which is the one piece rudder skin and is a bit smaller. Jerry flmike wrote: > >Just out of curiosity, why the -9 rudder / stab and >not the -7? > >Mike > >__________________________________ > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 06, 2003
From: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: RE: New rudder
Yes the -9 horizontal is constant chord but not the vertical, which is what I built. Jerry Darwin N. Barrie wrote: > >The rudder is the same now but the stabs are still unique to the dash >number. The -9 is a constant chord stab. > >And, interestingly Van's did not put the new rudder on their demonstrator. > >Darwin N. Barrie >Chandler AZ >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jeff Point" <jpoint(at)mindspring.com> >To: >Subject: Re: RV-List: RE: New rudder > > > > >> >>They are now the same thing. >> >>See: http://www.vansaircraft.com/pdf/sb02-6-1.pdf >> >>Jeff Point >>RV-6 panel, wiring >>Milwaukee, WI >> >>flmike wrote: >> >> >> >>> >>>Just out of curiosity, why the -9 rudder / stab and >>>not the -7? >>> >>>Mike >>> >>>__________________________________ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 06, 2003
From: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Rudder
Wheeler North wrote: > >Jerry, > >I have to fess up and say that I was at the home group flyin, although my >landing probably sucked I don't have any recollection of running into >anything, much less an airplane. I am also greatly dismayed that someone >would do this and not say something. That's tanamount to an act of >terrorism, and as such, I will be happy to give them their last ride. > >Actually I had no idea the event was happening, I was on my way to AWO and >had to pee. Scapoose tends to have great fuel prices so it seemed like a win >win. On short final it occured to me that there were an extrodinarily large >number of RV's in the air and on the ground. ;{) > >I would love to know if this mod made any significant change in airspeeds, >and what did you have to do to get the gap fairing to fit the new stab? >Given my aversion to plastic, that seems like the worst part of the job. > >I would also love to know what the approximate costs were, and did you keep >a copy of the parts list you used to order from. > >thanks for the updates > >W > > > > Actually the fairing fit better than I thought it would. I well have to modify where it lays against the vertical stab a little to get a better fit, but for testing I have just taped it for now. I well have to fly some more to get a better idea of performance because I took the wheel pants off to work on them during this same time. I do have a copy of the parts list maybe I well try to post it to a web site. I really can't say about price because Van did give me reduced price on parts. I was only at the fly-in for 2-3 hours on Sat., sorry did not get to say hello. Jerry ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Patrick Kelley" <webmaster(at)flion.com>
Subject: Wither Dan?
Date: Oct 06, 2003
Has something happened to Dan Checkoway, or is he simply immersed in moving his project to the hangar? His site is not updated for many days now and I haven't seen him posting on the 'List. Dan, if you're listening, I've been taking notes on your firewall forward work. don't stop now! Patrick Kelley - RV-6A - skinning the fuselage. Has something happened to Dan Checkoway, or is he simply immersed in moving his project to the hangar? His site is not updated for many days now and I havent seen him posting on the List. Dan, if youre listening, Ive been taking notes on your firewall forward work dont stop now! Patrick Kelley RV-6A skinning the fuselage ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Lyle Peterson" <lyleap(at)access4less.net>
Subject: RV Customer Number at Van's
Date: Oct 06, 2003
Hi, I know that each kit and set of plans has a Van's Customer Number and/or a serial number. Should these be checked with Van's prior to purchasing a previously owned kit? Thanks, Lyle ________________________________________________________________________________
From: N223RV(at)aol.com
Date: Oct 06, 2003
Subject: Re: RV Customer Number at Van's
-------------------------------1065497859 If you buy a previously owned kit (and it is not yet completed and flying) have the seller sign a document stating you are the new owner and to transfer the serial number (also the builder number) to you. This way when you go to get the FAA documents and sales agreement, it won't be an issue. It will also make you eligible to purchase a new Lycoming engine from Van's if you choose. -Mike Kraus Bought most of my kits from 3rd parties RV-4 Flying -------------------------------1065497859 tutf-8"> If you buy a previously owned kit (and it is not yet completed and flying) have the seller sign a document stating you are the new owner and to transfer the serial number (also the builder number) to you. This way when you go to get the FAA documents and sales agreement, it won't be an issue. It will also make you eligible to purchase a new Lycoming engine from Van's if you choose. -Mike Kraus Bought most of my kits from 3rd parties RV-4 Flying -------------------------------1065497859-- ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "carlos noto" <notomoto1(at)juno.com>
Subject: ? is the main Def. on the vr-7 & vr-9
Date: Oct 06, 2003
Hello everyone! I'm new on the list. I'm planning on building an RV. I'm looking in to the RV-9 & and the RV-7, and I will like to know that are the main differences between them. I know that the RV-9 has 1 feet of extra wind on each side, but that is about it. I like the RV-9 because it has a slower lading speed, but I like the RV-7 because it has a higher top speed :) I know the undecided world of aviation. For those of you that know more about the RV's, can you put a 200 hp on an RV-9, or you I want to go really fast I'll have to stick with the RV-7? can the wing on the RV-7 be extended 1 feet for better lading speed? thanks everyone for your help. carlos noto ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Jim Nolan" <jamespnolan(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: RV-8 Empennage for Sale
Date: Oct 07, 2003
Listers, I have an RV-8 Empennage for sale. Horizontal Stab is done, Vertical Stab is started. $900.00 OBO. You have to come to Warsaw, In to pick it up. I won't ship it. Jim Nolan N444JN Listers, I have an RV-8 Empennage for sale. Horizontal Stab is done, Vertical Stab is started. $900.00 OBO. You have to come to Warsaw, In to pick it up. I won't ship it. Jim Nolan N444JN ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 07, 2003
From: Lenleg(at)aol.com
Subject: Altrak Altitude Hold
Guys: I noticed on Vans website the altitude hold has the trim sensor option. What exactly is this for and are most guys buying this option? Sam Buchanan .... are you using the trim sensor? Len Leggette, RV-8A Greensboro, NC N910LL 152 hrs ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 07, 2003
From: Lenleg(at)aol.com
Subject: Fwd: [RVBGOTT] Any RV's nearby
---------50765b9d434ed13a50765b9d434ed13a ---------50765b9d434ed13a50765b9d434ed13a From: Tim Piscitelli <mechdawg(at)yahoo.com> List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 05:47:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [RVBGOTT] Any RV's nearby Hello all, Im a Flight Engineer in the Air Force on the C-5 Galaxy. I have been researching the Vans RV's for a few months now and am seriously thinking about starting a kit. I was wondering if anyone knows of anyone nearby that has any RV's either finished or being built that I could see and people to talk with Im very new to all this. Thanks to all Tim Piscitelli Dover AFB Delaware __________________________________ Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. Click Here! Click Here! Learn more: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RVBGOTT Change you settings: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RVBGOTT/join General Help for Groups: http://help.yahoo.com/help/groups/ ---------50765b9d434ed13a50765b9d434ed13a-- ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 07, 2003
From: Sam Buchanan <sbuc(at)hiwaay.net>
Subject: Re: Altrak Altitude Hold
Lenleg(at)aol.com wrote: > > > Guys: > > I noticed on Vans website the altitude hold has the trim sensor option. What exactly is this for and are most guys buying this option? > > Sam Buchanan .... are you using the trim sensor? > > Len Leggette, RV-8A > Greensboro, NC N910LL > 152 hrs > No, I am using the standard version without the trim sensor. The standard servo is completely acceptable in our planes. As I understand the option, it would be desirable if the plane could get so out of trim that the servo could not overpower the out of trim condition, and the option would warn you that the condition existed. This is not a scenario in an RV since elevator trim does not change a great deal during the course of a cross country leg, and the elevator retains a lot of authority even when slightly out of trim. As has been stated by the DigiTrak rep, the trim option would be good if you anticipate upgrading later to one of the advanced DigiTrak systems. Sam Buchanan ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Charles Rowbotham" <crowbotham(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: RV Customer Number at Van's
Date: Oct 07, 2003
I would. Chuck Rowbotham RV-8A >From: "Lyle Peterson" <lyleap(at)access4less.net> >Reply-To: rv-list(at)matronics.com >To: >Subject: RV-List: RV Customer Number at Van's >Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:34:15 -0500 > > >Hi, > >I know that each kit and set of plans has a Van's Customer Number and/or >a serial number. > >Should these be checked with Van's prior to purchasing a previously >owned kit? > >Thanks, > >Lyle > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Charles Rowbotham" <crowbotham(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Altrak Altitude Hold
Date: Oct 07, 2003
We went without the trim sensor - works great. If you plan to upgrade in the future or think you might TruTrak's policy is should allow to trade in old unit for the new and only pay the difference. Great product !! Highly recommend both digitrak and alttrak. Chuck & Dave Rowbotham RV-8A >From: Lenleg(at)aol.com >Reply-To: rv-list(at)matronics.com >To: rv-list(at)matronics.com >Subject: RV-List: Altrak Altitude Hold >Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 09:32:12 -0400 > > >Guys: > >I noticed on Vans website the altitude hold has the trim sensor option. >What exactly is this for and are most guys buying this option? > >Sam Buchanan .... are you using the trim sensor? > >Len Leggette, RV-8A >Greensboro, NC N910LL >152 hrs > > Frustrated with dial-up? Get high-speed for as low as $29.95/month (depending on the local service providers in your area). https://broadband.msn.com ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 07, 2003
Subject: How Wide a Door
From: Martin Sobel <rv8vator(at)earthlink.net>
Help: We may be building a new home. I need to know how wide a door do I need to get an -8 fuselage with gear out of the basement. Martin Sobel ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Bob Hassel" <bob@hassel-usa.com>
Subject: ? is the main Def. on the vr-7 & vr-9
Date: Oct 07, 2003
If you like hanging upside down the 7 may be a better ship for you. If you plan on doing cross country go with the 9. Best bet is figure out what your skills are like now and what your mission or reason for flying is. Bob -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of carlos noto Subject: RV-List: ? is the main Def. on the vr-7 & vr-9 Hello everyone! I'm new on the list. I'm planning on building an RV. I'm looking in to the RV-9 & and the RV-7, and I will like to know that are the main differences between them. I know that the RV-9 has 1 feet of extra wind on each side, but that is about it. I like the RV-9 because it has a slower lading speed, but I like the RV-7 because it has a higher top speed :) I know the undecided world of aviation. For those of you that know more about the RV's, can you put a 200 hp on an RV-9, or you I want to go really fast I'll have to stick with the RV-7? can the wing on the RV-7 be extended 1 feet for better lading speed? thanks everyone for your help. carlos noto ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 07, 2003
From: Richard Dudley <rhdudley(at)att.net>
Subject: Re: Flap leading edge protection
Thanks for the comments on flap leading edge protection. There seems to be a variety of experiences and preferences on what works. Regards, Richard Dudley Richard Dudley wrote: > > > Listers, > > The leading edge of the flap on the RV-6/A (and probably all other RV's) > is tight against the underside of the top skin of the wing. It drags on > that top skin as the flaps are lowered. > > I have seen flap leading edges covered by a metal foil and by a white > polymer that Van sells as UHMW tape as a replacement for the metal foil. > > My question is: has anyone tried applying the UMHW tape to the underside > of the wing skin rather than to the flap? What were the results? Does it > protect the paint on the flap? > > Thanks in advance. > > Regards, > > Richard Dudley > -6A final details > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell(at)telus.net>
Subject: Re: How Wide a Door
Date: Oct 07, 2003
Hi Martin, Well,...? If you have had the right and proper presence of mind to build right next to a runway then the door width should be about a minimum of thirty feet. Of course a nice bi-fold door for that would seem appropriate.[8-)! Failing the above an eight foot door should just be enough ( about 3" to 4" clearance) to get the fuselage straight out with it's wheel pants installed, out into the world and on the road to the runway that you wish you lived next to.{;-]! I am basing the door width suggestion on my 6A wheel stance as built in my in-house garage. If there is a difference in the 8 gear stance width I'm sure someone will be more than happy to offer a more accurate measurement.(g-)! Happy building of both, Jim in Kelowna........ P.S. Finish the garage part of the house first dude!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Sobel" <rv8vator(at)earthlink.net> Subject: RV-List: How Wide a Door > > Help: > > We may be building a new home. > > I need to know how wide a door do I need to get an -8 fuselage with gear out > of the basement. > > Martin Sobel > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Jerry2DT(at)aol.com
Date: Oct 07, 2003
Subject: GRT EFIS
Folks... Is anyone on the list using the Grand Rapids EFIS/Engine Monitor yet? Any and all input/opinions are appreciated. This thing looks like a good unit. Jerry Cochran Folks... Is anyone on the list using the Grand Rapids EFIS/Engine Monitor yet? Any and all input/opinions are appreciated. This thing looks like a good unit. Jerry Cochran ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: rudder
Date: Oct 07, 2003
From: "David.vonLinsowe" <David.vonLinsowe(at)delphi.com>
Hi Jerry, I'm really curious of what the new fin and rudder did to your CG? I have an older style 7 rudder I was going to mount on my 6 with a new fin. The guys in the Van's booth didn't foresee any improvement and were concerned about the extra 3 lbs it would add to the tail. Thanks, Dave Snip> Actually the fairing fit better than I thought it would. I well have to modify where it lays against the vertical stab a little to get a better fit, but for testing I have just taped it for now. I well have to fly some more to get a better idea of performance because I took the wheel pants off to work on them during this same time. I do have a copy of the parts list maybe I well try to post it to a web site. I really can't say about price because Van did give me reduced price on parts. I was only at the fly-in for 2-3 hours on Sat., sorry did not get to say hello. Jerry ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Jack Blomgren" <jackanet(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: How Wide a Door
Date: Oct 07, 2003
Martin, Mine measures 80" over wheel hub nuts with no engine weight gear spread. However, you can do with less width opening if you have enough room to swing the fuselage considerably away from straight on, sliding the tires sideways as you work your way one wheel at a time through the opening. Best Regards, Jack, -8 >From: Martin Sobel <rv8vator(at)earthlink.net> >Reply-To: rv-list(at)matronics.com >To: RV-List Digest Server >Subject: RV-List: How Wide a Door >Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 12:52:30 -0400 > > >Help: > >We may be building a new home. > >I need to know how wide a door do I need to get an -8 fuselage with gear >out >of the basement. > >Martin Sobel > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 07, 2003
From: Louis Willig <larywil(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Fwd: [RVBGOTT] Any RV's nearby
>Hello all, >Im a Flight Engineer in the Air Force on the C-5 >Galaxy. I have been researching the Vans RV's for a >few months now and am seriously thinking about >starting a kit. I was wondering if anyone knows of >anyone nearby that has any RV's either finished or >being built that I could see and people to talk with >Im very new to all this. Thanks to all >Tim Piscitelli >Dover AFB Delaware Tim, I have an RV-4 in Philadelphia (PNE) and there are several RV-4's and 6's in New Jersey. I can give you a ride in my -4 if you give me a ride in your -5. Or a -14, 15, 16, 17. ( forget the 17 - it looks weird.) Contact me off the list or by phone. I'm sure we can spend a day looking at each other's ride. - Louis I Willig 1640 Oakwood Dr. Penn Valley, PA 19072 610 668-4964 RV-4, N180PF 190HP IO-360, C/S prop ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Curt Hoffman" <choffman9(at)cinci.rr.com>
Subject: Re: How Wide a Door
Date: Oct 07, 2003
My current house and my previous house I had double wide French doors installed in the basement. They will take any fuselage and I can even drive a small car into the basement. I figure - why scrimp. The hole costs the same and doors don't cost that much. Curt Hoffman RV-9A wings done for now- working on tail Quick build fuselage now in basement Piper Cherokee N5320W 1974 TR6 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Sobel" <rv8vator(at)earthlink.net> Subject: RV-List: How Wide a Door > > Help: > > We may be building a new home. > > I need to know how wide a door do I need to get an -8 fuselage with gear out > of the basement. > > Martin Sobel > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Lyle Peterson" <lyleap(at)access4less.net>
Subject: Thank you
Date: Oct 07, 2003
Many thanks to those who responded to my questions about previously owned kits and the Van's customer number. I bought an empannage kit today. Everything went well. The list is a wealth of information. Even when the topic isn't about something I am, or might be doing shortly, it is very interesting. Thanks to all again, Lyle Peterson ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 07, 2003
From: "Charles L. Cotton" <charles(at)cottonfamily.com>
Subject: Run away rivet gun!
Help!! I'm building an RV-7A and am working on the empennage. The short version of the story is this: while riveting the rudder counter-balance rib to the spar, the spar slipped, the rivet gun came off the rivet and struck the spar three times. Its hard to describe how the spar looks, but I'll try. There is no crease in the spar and no hole, but there is a slight bulge just above the point where the rib attaches to the spar. I talked to Van's to see if I should replace the spar, but they obviously can't really make that determination, since they can't see it. Has anyone else done this and what did you do? Should any damage to a spar be grounds to replace it? It really doesn't look like the spar is damaged, so I've finished everything, except riveting the trailing edge. However, this is still bothering me and I'm very tempted to drill out about a thousand rivets and replace the spar. Is this over kill? Thanks, Chas. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "C J Heitman" <cjh(at)execpc.com>
Subject: EIS4000 engine monitor questions
Date: Oct 07, 2003
I started my engine for the first time today. Started right up - no leaks - but a few issues with my Grand Rapids EIS4000 engine monitor. I'll try to talk to Greg at Grand Rapids tomorrow but I'm wondering if anyone else has experienced any of the following: Oil Pressure is reading about half of actual (I checked it with a mechanical gauge). The VDO sender is labeled 10 bar (about 150psi). When the wire is disconnected the EIS reads 80psi. No oil temperature indication. Reads 59F all the time. The 2 wire thermistor based sensor appears to be wired correctly but I haven't yet disconnected it to measure the resistance. I have a mag and a Lightspeed with a selector switch to feed either tach signal to the EIS. I get no reading from the Lightspeed and the reading from the mag appears low but I'm not sure if it's half of actual as I don't have another way to measure rpm. I'm feeding the p-lead thru a resistor to the EIS as shown in the instructions. I have the EIS configured for 2 pulses per revolution. Is that correct? On the lightspeed side I just connected the tach signal directly to the EIS. I didn't use a shielded wire. Perhaps that is part of the problem. If anyone can offer insight on any of these 3 problems I would be most grateful. Chris Heitman Dousman WI RV-9A N94ME (reserved) http://my.execpc.com/~cjh/rv9a.html --- ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Rich Crosley" <dirtrider(at)qnet.com>
Subject: Van's Tail Wheel
Date: Oct 07, 2003
I received my finish kit and my tail wheel. I noticed the the grease fitting (zerk fitting) was not a one-way fitting. It looks like a standard zerk fitting, but has a hole straight through, no spring loaded ball to keep grease in. Van's guys told me that's the way they sell it. If that's the case, and I guess it is, do you grease the tail wheel or just use the fitting to oil the bearings or what? Rich Crosley RV-8 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Bob Hassel" <bob@hassel-usa.com>
Subject: Run away rivet gun!
Date: Oct 07, 2003
If you're unsure take a picture and send it to Van's to look at. Even if you don't have a digital camera you can get cd's made of your pictures when they are processed. This may be the safest thing if you're worried. Do all of the skin, rib and spar rivet holes still line up? A slight bulge may not be a big problem but like Van's without a pic everything is just a guess that can best be answered by you. Good luck! Bob -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Charles L. Cotton Subject: RV-List: Run away rivet gun! Help!! I'm building an RV-7A and am working on the empennage. The short version of the story is this: while riveting the rudder counter-balance rib to the spar, the spar slipped, the rivet gun came off the rivet and struck the spar three times. Its hard to describe how the spar looks, but I'll try. There is no crease in the spar and no hole, but there is a slight bulge just above the point where the rib attaches to the spar. I talked to Van's to see if I should replace the spar, but they obviously can't really make that determination, since they can't see it. Has anyone else done this and what did you do? Should any damage to a spar be grounds to replace it? It really doesn't look like the spar is damaged, so I've finished everything, except riveting the trailing edge. However, this is still bothering me and I'm very tempted to drill out about a thousand rivets and replace the spar. Is this over kill? Thanks, Chas. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Russell Duffy" <13brv3(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Van's Tail Wheel
Date: Oct 07, 2003
I received my finish kit and my tail wheel. I noticed the the grease fitting (zerk fitting) was not a one-way fitting. It looks like a standard zerk fitting, but has a hole straight through, no spring loaded ball to keep grease in. Van's guys told me that's the way they sell it. If that's the case, and I guess it is, do you grease the tail wheel or just use the fitting to oil the bearings or what? Rich Crosley RV-8 -------------------- Funny you should ask. A buddy just changed his RV-8 tailwheel, and noticed that there was no ball in the zerk fitting. I don't know if there was one in his old wheel, but the one I got from Van's about a year ago doesn't have one, and neither does the ancient (22 years old) one that was in the original RV-3 kit. I'd say don't worry about it. Cheers, Rusty Navarre, FL RV-8, 80587, N174KT (sold, and for sale again I see) RV-3B, 10751, N751RV, flying with turbo Mazda 13B engine (zoom, zoom) ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Ed Perry" <eperry(at)san.rr.com>
Subject: Re: EIS4000 engine monitor questions
Date: Oct 07, 2003
Hi Chris, Set your Tach input to "1"pulse. As far as the Oil temp and pressure you'll have to ask Greg. He will sit on the phone with you until you fix it, great service and a great guy, but you have to get past Sandy first. Good Luck, The EIS is great for what it is and when you get it all set up you will love it. Ed Perry ----- Original Message ----- From: "C J Heitman" <cjh(at)execpc.com> Subject: RV-List: EIS4000 engine monitor questions > > I started my engine for the first time today. Started right up - no leaks - > but a few issues with my Grand Rapids EIS4000 engine monitor. I'll try to > talk to Greg at Grand Rapids tomorrow but I'm wondering if anyone else has > experienced any of the following: > > Oil Pressure is reading about half of actual (I checked it with a mechanical > gauge). The VDO sender is labeled 10 bar (about 150psi). When the wire is > disconnected the EIS reads 80psi. > > No oil temperature indication. Reads 59F all the time. The 2 wire thermistor > based sensor appears to be wired correctly but I haven't yet disconnected it > to measure the resistance. > > I have a mag and a Lightspeed with a selector switch to feed either tach > signal to the EIS. I get no reading from the Lightspeed and the reading from > the mag appears low but I'm not sure if it's half of actual as I don't have > another way to measure rpm. I'm feeding the p-lead thru a resistor to the > EIS as shown in the instructions. I have the EIS configured for 2 pulses per > revolution. Is that correct? On the lightspeed side I just connected the > tach signal directly to the EIS. I didn't use a shielded wire. Perhaps that > is part of the problem. > > If anyone can offer insight on any of these 3 problems I would be most > grateful. > > Chris Heitman > Dousman WI > RV-9A N94ME (reserved) > http://my.execpc.com/~cjh/rv9a.html > > --- > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Larygagnon(at)aol.com
Date: Oct 07, 2003
Subject: Dynon Depth
I downloaded the installation manual from Dynon's web site but I can't seem to find the depth on the unit, just the size and depth of the display portion. I want to see if it will fit in my panel with the space I have. Anyone out there have one they could measure. Sure seems like a great addition to my panel, I seem to be hearing positive comments from everyone who has one. Larry Gagnon RV6 N6LG 30 hours and counting ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Larry Pardue" <n5lp(at)warpdriveonline.com>
Subject: Re: Van's Tail Wheel
Date: Oct 07, 2003
> > I received my finish kit and my tail wheel. I noticed the the grease > fitting (zerk fitting) was not a one-way fitting. It looks like a standard > zerk fitting, but has a hole straight through, no spring loaded ball to keep > grease in. Van's guys told me that's the way they sell it. If that's the > case, and I guess it is, do you grease the tail wheel or just use the > fitting to oil the bearings or what? > The zerk doesn't work anyway. Take the thing apart to grease it. It needs it fairly often. Larry Pardue Carlsbad, NM RV-6 N441LP Flying http://n5lp.net ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 07, 2003
From: Steven Eberhart <newtech(at)newtech.com>
Subject: Re: Run away rivet gun!
I replaced the spar in my vert. stab. When I was drilling out a rivet that attached the v yoke stiffener I screwed up and nicked the spar and stiffener. When I called Van's about it they said that there were two reasons for replacing a part. 1) for structural reasons. 2) because every time you look at it you are going to mutter under your breath things like sh*t, etc. I replaced my vert. spar and stiffener. I am now finishing up my left wing and starting on the right wing. Today I wouldn't replace the parts. Would have dressed out the nick and continued on. But, at the time I just couldn't see how I was ever going to be content knowing that my stab had a problem. Get a picture to Van's and follow their suggestions unless #2 above is the predominate situation then replace the parts. Steve Eberhart RV-7A, left wing done starting right. Charles L. Cotton wrote: > > Help!! I'm building an RV-7A and am working on the empennage. The short > version of the story is this: while riveting the rudder counter-balance > rib to the spar, the spar slipped, the rivet gun came off the rivet and > struck the spar three times. Its hard to describe how the spar looks, but > I'll try. There is no crease in the spar and no hole, but there is a > slight bulge just above the point where the rib attaches to the spar. I > talked to Van's to see if I should replace the spar, but they obviously > can't really make that determination, since they can't see it. > > Has anyone else done this and what did you do? Should any damage to a spar > be grounds to replace it? It really doesn't look like the spar is damaged, > so I've finished everything, except riveting the trailing edge. However, > this is still bothering me and I'm very tempted to drill out about a > thousand rivets and replace the spar. Is this over kill? > > Thanks, > Chas. > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 07, 2003
From: Sam Buchanan <sbuc(at)hiwaay.net>
Subject: Re: Van's Tail Wheel
Russell Duffy wrote: > > > I received my finish kit and my tail wheel. I noticed the the grease > fitting (zerk fitting) was not a one-way fitting. It looks like a standard > zerk fitting, but has a hole straight through, no spring loaded ball to keep > grease in. Van's guys told me that's the way they sell it. If that's the > case, and I guess it is, do you grease the tail wheel or just use the > fitting to oil the bearings or what? > > Rich Crosley > RV-8 > -------------------- > > Funny you should ask. A buddy just changed his RV-8 tailwheel, and noticed > that there was no ball in the zerk fitting. I don't know if there was one > in his old wheel, but the one I got from Van's about a year ago doesn't have > one, and neither does the ancient (22 years old) one that was in the > original RV-3 kit. I'd say don't worry about it. > I seems it is a moot point since the bearings in the tailwheel are sealed. If you shoot grease into the wheel, all you will accomplish is slingin' grease out the wheel after a few takeoffs/landings. The bearings won't see any of the grease. Fortunately the bearings are easily replaced and can be purchased at your local bearing emporium. Sam Buchanan (RV-6) ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 07, 2003
From: Sam Buchanan <sbuc(at)hiwaay.net>
Subject: Re: Dynon Depth
Larygagnon(at)aol.com wrote: > > > I downloaded the installation manual from Dynon's web site but I can't seem > to find the depth on the unit, just the size and depth of the display portion. > I want to see if it will fit in my panel with the space I have. Anyone out > there have one they could measure. Sure seems like a great addition to my > panel, I seem to be hearing positive comments from everyone who has one. > > Larry Gagnon > RV6 N6LG 30 hours and counting Larry, hit this link: http://www.dynondevelopment.com/docs/efis-d10specs.html Sam Buchanan ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 07, 2003
From: "Charles L. Cotton" <charles(at)cottonfamily.com>
Subject: Re: Run away rivet gun!
Never mind; I couldn't stand it and took the rudder apart. I'll order a replacement spar tomorrow. I've had to drill a rivet here and there, but this was the first major component I've had to disassemble and it really sucks! Oh well, this is a learning process. Chas. > >Help!! I'm building an RV-7A and am working on the empennage. The short >version of the story is this: while riveting the rudder counter-balance >rib to the spar, the spar slipped, the rivet gun came off the rivet and >struck the spar three times. Its hard to describe how the spar looks, but >I'll try. There is no crease in the spar and no hole, but there is a >slight bulge just above the point where the rib attaches to the spar. I >talked to Van's to see if I should replace the spar, but they obviously >can't really make that determination, since they can't see it. > >Has anyone else done this and what did you do? Should any damage to a spar >be grounds to replace it? It really doesn't look like the spar is damaged, >so I've finished everything, except riveting the trailing edge. However, >this is still bothering me and I'm very tempted to drill out about a >thousand rivets and replace the spar. Is this over kill? > >Thanks, >Chas. > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Russell Duffy" <13brv3(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Van's Tail Wheel
Date: Oct 07, 2003
The zerk doesn't work anyway. Take the thing apart to grease it. It needs it fairly often. Larry Pardue Carlsbad, NM ------------ Are you talking about the tailwheel, or the swivel for the tailwheel? Rusty ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 07, 2003
From: Jeff Point <jpoint(at)mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Van's Tail Wheel
The latest RVator has a plans revision for this very area. I don't have it handy, but I believe it was to remove the zerk fitting and lube the area with WD40 or such periodically. Anyone with the RVator handy can look this up? Jeff Point RV-6 wiring Milwaukee WI Rich Crosley wrote: ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Larry Pardue" <n5lp(at)warpdriveonline.com>
Subject: Re: Van's Tail Wheel
Date: Oct 07, 2003
> > > > > > I received my finish kit and my tail wheel. I noticed the the grease > > fitting (zerk fitting) was not a one-way fitting. It looks like a > standard > > zerk fitting, but has a hole straight through, no spring loaded ball to > keep > > grease in. Van's guys told me that's the way they sell it. If that's the > > case, and I guess it is, do you grease the tail wheel or just use the > > fitting to oil the bearings or what? > > > > The zerk doesn't work anyway. Take the thing apart to grease it. It needs > it fairly often. > Oops. Didn't read closely enough. Question was about the wheel and answer was about the assembly. Larry Pardue ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Tom Gummo" <T.gummo(at)verizon.net>
Subject: Web site
Date: Oct 07, 2003
Guys, I finally put together a web site. It has a Rocket page. It is NOTHING SPECIAL. IT IS AIMED AT NON RV TYPES. There are just a couple of pictures of my plane: One flying Two on the ground One of the cockpit One of the wing storage lockers I am a pilot not a builder. :-) http://mysite.verizon.net/t.gummo/index.html Anyway, take a look. Tom Gummo Apple Valley, CA BTW, there are some great pictures of F-4s too. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: RV6AOKC(at)aol.com
Date: Oct 08, 2003
Subject: Re: Mixture Cable/Attachment...
Thanks Jerry!!! I would love to steal a piece of this material from you.....but I would like to trade....I'll give you ...say....a elec. cable crimping tool....thats it....oh..wait....I guess that is yours too...!!!! =) Is the "Hussy" out at the airport yet??? Im done with my forward part of the canopy...all that is left is the cowl, baffel, FAB, and some misc stuff...getting close I hope.....building time is limited again as Im back at work in Houston, working the second job at the Air Force and we are expecting #2 on Nov 11th or so.... Drop me an update when you can..... ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 08, 2003
From: Matt Jurotich <mjurotich(at)hst.nasa.gov>
Subject: Fuel tank seeps
Folks I have a 6A that I purchased from its builder. Both fuel tanks have seeps around 6 to 8 rivets, really slow seeps but the paint is bubbling up where the seeps occur. Any suggestions to cure? Thanks Matthew M. Jurotich NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center Swales contractor to the JWST ISIM Systems Engineer m/c : 443 e-mail mail to: phone : 301-286-5919 fax : 301-286-1736 JWST URL: <http://ngst1.gsfc.nasa.gov ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "James E. Clark" <james(at)nextupventures.com>
Subject: GRT EFIS
Date: Oct 08, 2003
Jerry, Their target ship date has been October 15th for some time now. I spoke with Greg yesterday and they seem to be very close to making that date or at least in October. It has been test flown in their "demo plane" (see article on their website) and I saw it installed in the Trutrak "demo" plane (at OSH ... was probably pre-production prototype). Thus, I would not expect there to be any "pireps" at this time. Maybe there IS someone out there that HAS flown it, but for now I think it too soon to expect same. I could be wrong. James > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jerry2DT(at)aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 3:57 PM > To: rv-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: RV-List: GRT EFIS > > > Folks... > > Is anyone on the list using the Grand Rapids EFIS/Engine Monitor > yet? Any and > all input/opinions are appreciated. This thing looks like a good unit. > > Jerry Cochran > > > "SCRIPT" FACE"Comic Sans MS" LANG"0">Folks... > > Is anyone on the list using the Grand Rapids EFIS/Engine Monitor > yet? Any an> d all input/opinions are appreciated. This thing looks like a > good unit. > > > Jerry Cochran > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "aronsond" <aronsond(at)pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: Fuel tank seeps
Date: Oct 08, 2003
Cut holes in the rear baffle, seal from inside, make covers to go over holes, seal and poprivet. Sorry Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Jurotich" <mjurotich(at)hst.nasa.gov> Subject: RV-List: Fuel tank seeps > > Folks > > I have a 6A that I purchased from its builder. Both fuel tanks have seeps > around 6 to 8 rivets, really slow seeps but the paint is bubbling up where > the seeps occur. Any suggestions to cure? > > Thanks > > Matthew M. Jurotich > > NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center > Swales contractor to the > JWST ISIM Systems Engineer > > m/c : 443 > e-mail mail to: > phone : 301-286-5919 > fax : 301-286-1736 > > > JWST URL: <http://ngst1.gsfc.nasa.gov > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 08, 2003
From: "Jim.Truitt(at)usdoj.gov" <Jim.Truitt(at)usdoj.gov>
Subject: EIS4000 engine monitor questions
I don't know much, but I can tell you that you must be sure you have the correct oil pressure sender to get the correct reading. The oil temp reads 59 because I believe that's as low as the EIS goes. So I assume your oil temp is below 59 or you're not getting a signal. I just started flying my 8A and I have the EIS 4000. I have two mags, but I wanted (and need of course) a tach reading from each side when you do the mag check. John Crabtree (a fine aircraft builder) came up with a circuit to switch the RPM reading from one side to another when you switch one side off on the mag check. John ran the diagram past Greg Tolman and he thought it was good. (It is). If I remember correctly, Greg had already conceived the circuit idea that John came up with, so Greg should be familiar with it. If he can't help you I can help you through John. I'm electrically challenged myself. Sometimes I'm not sure the circuits in my head are firing correctly. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Evan and Megan Johnson" <evmeg(at)snowcrest.net>
Subject: Re: Fuel tank seeps
Date: Oct 08, 2003
NASA!?....I'll fix them for you if you get me a ride in the shuttle :) I have to say that sounds like a lot of leaking rivets. I have never had to do more that 2 or 3 rivets so you are in for a challenge.Your builder probably didnt use enough sealant on the ribs....or maybe put it together dry then tried to seal over the outside of the ribs. You may be chasing this for a long time....I would not repaint until you know that you have caught them all. That said, you can reseal leaking rivets by sucking sealant into the voids around the rivets. I use a mighty vac hand vacuum pump that I got at a local car parts shop. Plug up all of the hardware going into the tank, put several layers of package tape over the fuel cap and then pump out the air to around 10 pounds of negative pressure. The skins will be bowing in around the ribs. Now you drip sealant onto each rivet that is leaking and let it suck into the void....before it starts sucking air again let the pressure off and wait for it to harden up. The sealant you use is the regular stuff from Vans.....just mix up a small amout per the instructions and then thin it down with an equal amount of MEK. DO NOT under any circumstances let anybody talk you into sloshing your tanks. I hope this helps. If I have not given you enough information or if you decide to just build new tanks you can call me @ (530)247-0375. Feel free to call or email, I am happy to help if I can. Evan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Jurotich" <mjurotich(at)hst.nasa.gov> Subject: RV-List: Fuel tank seeps > > Folks > > I have a 6A that I purchased from its builder. Both fuel tanks have seeps > around 6 to 8 rivets, really slow seeps but the paint is bubbling up where > the seeps occur. Any suggestions to cure? > > Thanks > > Matthew M. Jurotich > > NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center > Swales contractor to the > JWST ISIM Systems Engineer > > m/c : 443 > e-mail mail to: > phone : 301-286-5919 > fax : 301-286-1736 > > > JWST URL: <http://ngst1.gsfc.nasa.gov > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Charles Rowbotham" <crowbotham(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Fwd: [RVBGOTT] Any RV's nearby
Date: Oct 08, 2003
Tim, If you get up to Westover, MA there are a number of us in the area. Chuck & Dave Rowbotham RV-8A >From: Louis Willig <larywil(at)comcast.net> >Reply-To: rv-list(at)matronics.com >To: rv-list(at)matronics.com >Subject: Re: RV-List: Fwd: [RVBGOTT] Any RV's nearby >Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 18:19:03 -0400 > > > > >Hello all, > >Im a Flight Engineer in the Air Force on the C-5 > >Galaxy. I have been researching the Vans RV's for a > >few months now and am seriously thinking about > >starting a kit. I was wondering if anyone knows of > >anyone nearby that has any RV's either finished or > >being built that I could see and people to talk with > >Im very new to all this. Thanks to all > >Tim Piscitelli > >Dover AFB Delaware > > >Tim, >I have an RV-4 in Philadelphia (PNE) and there are several RV-4's and 6's >in New Jersey. I can give you a ride in my -4 if you give me a ride in >your -5. >Or a -14, 15, 16, 17. ( forget the 17 - it looks weird.) Contact me off the >list or by phone. I'm sure we can spend a day looking at each other's ride. > > >- >Louis I Willig >1640 Oakwood Dr. >Penn Valley, PA 19072 >610 668-4964 >RV-4, N180PF >190HP IO-360, C/S prop > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Dynon Depth
Date: Oct 08, 2003
In addition to the 7.6 inches listed add the pitot/static/AOA nipples and computer style plug to the length. All told it comes to about 10 inches. Mike Robertson >From: Sam Buchanan <sbuc(at)hiwaay.net> >Reply-To: rv-list(at)matronics.com >To: rv-list(at)matronics.com >Subject: Re: RV-List: Dynon Depth >Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 22:12:16 -0500 > > >Larygagnon(at)aol.com wrote: > > > > > > I downloaded the installation manual from Dynon's web site but I can't >seem > > to find the depth on the unit, just the size and depth of the display >portion. > > I want to see if it will fit in my panel with the space I have. Anyone >out > > there have one they could measure. Sure seems like a great addition to >my > > panel, I seem to be hearing positive comments from everyone who has one. > > > > Larry Gagnon > > RV6 N6LG 30 hours and counting > > >Larry, hit this link: > >http://www.dynondevelopment.com/docs/efis-d10specs.html > >Sam Buchanan > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 08, 2003
From: "Ken Simmons" <ken(at)truckstop.com>
Subject: G meter and turn coordinator(long)
A follow up on the DA-55 digital G-meter. Aircraft Spruce is the only company I can find listing the item. I finally got out of them that these are backorderd because the company has to redesign the instrument because some of the parts are no longer available. That was the latest information they had. The company doesn't seem to return their phone calls. I have also emailed and phoned them with no reply. Anybody know of other digital G meters? Also, any takers on opinions of the "unconventional" turn coordinator displays on the Navaid,Dynon,EZ Pilot? Thanks. Ken ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Greg Young" <gyoung@cs-sol.com> Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:09:57 -0500 > >Ken, I had the DA-55 in the Phoenix. It's a nice instrument and has all the >features they say - even has a secret code to keep others from erasing the >recordings. With what limited flight time I had on it I liked it and will >reinstall it. Mine says it was made by EZE Instruments but I couldn't find a >site either. Why not shoot ACS a note and ask for more info? An example of >pretty poor marketing by the mfgr. I can scan the manual if you want to get >to that depth. > >As to the TC, you need to decide why you want it since you're not IFR. If >you want it to save your ass if you do something stupid then it better work >and you better be able to use it without getting used to it first. My >original was VFR w/o gyros except for the Navaid which was my backup if I >got stupid. I'm now IFR and the Phoenix will be too. BTW, Navaid uses a >mechanical gyro but has a digital display. Trutrak is solid state as are all >the EFIS. Decide on your mission then pick the equipment. > >Regards, >Greg Young - Houston (DWH) >RV-6 N6GY ...project Phoenix >Navion N5221K - just an XXL RV-6A > > >> >> Is anyone familiar with the DA-55 digital G meter available >> from Aircraft Spruce? Here's a link to the website >> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/inpages/accelerometers.p >> hp. Google didn't seem to have anything for a website for the >> manufacturer. I'm considering building a digital G meter of >> some sort, but if I can buy one with all the features I want, >> I would rather pound rivets. >> >> Also, what's the impression of the built in "turn >> coordinator" features of some of the devices like Navaid >> autopilot, EZ Pilot autopilot, and the Dynon D-10. It doesn't >> appear to be as intuitive as the standard turn coordinator. >> Do you eventually get used to it? Is it to much of a trade >> off to get the no-moving-parts-reliability? ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "RV_8 Pilot" <rv_8pilot(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: RV-8 Accident in N TX
Date: Oct 08, 2003
tests=FROM_HAS_UNDERLINE_NUMS Anyone have info on this? http://www1.faa.gov/avr/aai/M_1007_N.txt Bryan Jones -8 Pearland, Texas ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 08, 2003
From: P M Condon <pcondon(at)mitre.org>
Subject: Why are so many RV's registered in Delaware ???
http://www.rvproject.com/rvfinder.jsp From time to time I have read why folks register their RV's in Delware, but, truely, are the benefits all there...and real ?? If some lawyer really wants a piece of you, would a sham, bogus company regrestry address in Delaware really save your butt?? I must be missing something because so many RV's (and other airplane owners) use this service.... ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 08, 2003
From: P M Condon <pcondon(at)mitre.org>
Subject: Van's Tail Wheel
My RV-4 tail wheel has two zirk fittings; one on the bronze/babbot pivot for the steering fork while the other zirk is on the Aviation Products tail wheel(Vans tail wheel proper). The Bearings are sealed bearings on the little aluimum hub so pumping grease onto the hollow hub does little good. I spin the wheel in the quiet of my hanger and listen for bearing raceway noises (scoring, loosness, sand, grit, freeplay) I have replaced a set of bearings once on my Cessna 150 tail dragger, which I used a Aviation products tailwheel after 500 hours because I detected some race scoring when I spun the wheel......never greased that bearing in over 8 years. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Kirsten Lacy" <klacy(at)totalaccess.net>
Subject: Re: RV-8 Accident in N TX
Date: Oct 08, 2003
here's another.... http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?ContentBlockID=0263216f-575c-484c-bb44-a2 3e943d3a1c&#d Kirsten Stugart Lacy ----- Original Message ----- From: "RV_8 Pilot" <rv_8pilot(at)hotmail.com> Subject: RV-List: RV-8 Accident in N TX > > Anyone have info on this? > > http://www1.faa.gov/avr/aai/M_1007_N.txt > > Bryan Jones -8 > Pearland, Texas > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 08, 2003
From: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
Subject: Re: RV-8 Accident in N TX
Texas Couple Dies In RV-8 Incident Wed, 08 Oct '03 Pleasure Cruise Ends In Tragedy FAA investigators are going over what's left of an RV-8 after it went down about 20 miles northwest of Tyler (TX) Monday. The two people on board were ejected upon impact. Their remains were scattered on the ground 100 yards or more from the crash site. KLTV News quotes Noel Sexton, who saw the plane overhead, 2 1/2 miles south of the crash site, as saying, "It was backfiring and missing and he revved the motor up real high, and it went back to idling." Stan May lives right across from the field where the plane crashed. He says he thought the plane was about to hit his home. "He gained altitude a little bit, and then he took a nosedive out into that pasture right there. Just a sudden impact, a loud boom. There was straps from the seatbelts where he appeared to have been buckled up. And then it threw him across the road." Ernest and Marketta Woodard from Georgetown (TX) died instantly in the crash. "There wasn't a lot left of it. But, again, the investigation is ongoing," said FAA Aviation Safety Inspector, Michael Hamilton. "We can't determine a cause this early in the investigation. It's going to take a while to filter out all of the causes." FAA Preliminary Accident Report IDENTIFICATION Regis#: 27JW Make/Model: RV8 Description: RV-8 VANS Date: 10/06/2003 Time: 1750 Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: Fatal Mid Air: N Missing: N Damage: Destroyed LOCATION City: TYLER State: TX Country: US DESCRIPTION ACFT WAS FLYING BETWEEN LAYERS AND DECIDED TO CLIMB TO ON TOP. ACFT DROPPED OFF WING FORMATION. UNABLE TO CONTACT ACFT AND WRECKAGE WAS FOUND 20 M NW OF TYLER, TX. OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES ARE UNKNOWN. THE ACFT WAS DESTROYED AND THE TWO SOB'S SUFFERED FATAL INJURIES. TYLER, TX INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 2 # Crew: 1 Fat: 1 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: # Pass: 1 Fat: 1 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: WEATHER: METAR TYR 061853Z 35003KT 1SM RA BA SCT002 OVC017 19/19 A3002 OTHER DATA Activity: Pleasure Phase: Cruise Operation: General Aviation Departed: GILMER, TX Dep Date: 10/06/2003 Dep. Time: 1740 Destination: GEORGETOWN, TX GTU Flt Plan: NONE Wx Briefing: N Last Radio Cont: UNKN Last Clearance: UNKN FAA FSDO: DALLAS, TX (SW05) Entry date: 10/07/2003 > >Anyone have info on this? > >http://www1.faa.gov/avr/aai/M_1007_N.txt > >Bryan Jones -8 >Pearland, Texas > > Scott Bilinski Eng dept 305 Phone (858) 657-2536 Pager (858) 502-5190 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 08, 2003
From: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
Subject: Re: Why are so many RV's registered in Delaware ???
I was told by a lawyer that if its obviously a "corporation" for the protection of a individual then the corporate veil can be pierced. > >http://www.rvproject.com/rvfinder.jsp > >>From time to time I have read why folks register their RV's in Delware, >but, truely, are the >benefits all there...and real ?? If some lawyer really wants a piece of >you, would a sham, bogus company regrestry address in Delaware really >save your butt?? I must be missing something because so many RV's (and >other airplane owners) use this service.... > > Scott Bilinski Eng dept 305 Phone (858) 657-2536 Pager (858) 502-5190 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 08, 2003
From: Tedd McHenry <tedd(at)vansairforce.org>
Subject: Re: Why are so many RV's registered in Delaware ???
On Wed, 8 Oct 2003, P M Condon wrote: --snip-- > If some lawyer really wants a piece of you, would a sham, bogus company > regrestry address in Delaware really save your butt?? I must be missing > something because so many RV's (and other airplane owners) use this > service.... It's more than just bogus companies. Nine out of ten major American corporations are incorporated in Delaware. I don't know that the legal subtlties of this are, but I assume they are very real. Tedd McHenry Surrey, BC ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 08, 2003
From: Chris W <chrisw3(at)cox.net>
Subject: Re: Why are so many RV's registered in Delaware ???
P M Condon wrote: > > http://www.rvproject.com/rvfinder.jsp > > >From time to time I have read why folks register their RV's in Delware, > but, truely, are the > benefits all there...and real ?? If some lawyer really wants a piece of > you, would a sham, bogus company regrestry address in Delaware really > save your butt?? I must be missing something because so many RV's (and > other airplane owners) use this service.... I always thought it was because taxes were less that way but I don't really know for sure. -- Chris Woodhouse 3147 SW 127th St. Oklahoma City, OK 73170 405-691-5206 chrisw(at)programmer.net N35 20.492' W97 34.342' "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 08, 2003
From: Rob Prior <rv7(at)b4.ca>
Subject: Re: RV-8 Accident in N TX
RV_8 Pilot wrote: > Anyone have info on this? > > http://www1.faa.gov/avr/aai/M_1007_N.txt Well, after a quick search on the RV-Finder, I couldn't find it. But a search of the FAA database reveals that it's not from Texas: Aircraft Description Serial Number RJC02 Type Registration Individual Manufacturer Name COLLIANDER RICHARD J Certificate Issue Date 07/10/2001 Model VANS RV-8 Status Valid Type Aircraft Fixed Wing Single-Engine Type Engine Reciprocating Pending Number Change None Dealer No Date Change Authorized None Mode S Code 50522400 MFR Year 2000 Fractional Owner NO Registered Owner Name ROBINSON JEFFREY R Street 8839 BALD EAGLE DR City BLAINE State WASHINGTON Zip Code 98230-9300 County WHATCOM Country UNITED STATES ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 08, 2003
From: Ron Patterson <scc_ron(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: gaskets needed for my O-320
--0-1139714383-1065641229=:98879 Hi guys, Just got my cylinders back from Lycon and decided to paint the case...which required my removing all the accessories from the back of the engine. Can anyone guide me to where I can get a metal cover for the vacuum pump (won't be using it), gaskets for the magnetos and fuel pump and other accessory gaskets for my O-320? I also need to find a 90 degree oil filter adapter like Mattituck was showing on their rebuild in OSH. Thanks Ron Patterson N8ZD reserved FWF --0-1139714383-1065641229=:98879 Hi guys, Just got my cylinders back from Lycon and decided to paint the case...which required my removing all the accessories from the back of the engine. Can anyone guide me to where I can get a metal cover for the vacuum pump (won't be using it), gaskets for the magnetos and fuel pump and other accessory gasketsfor my O-320? I also need to find a 90 degree oil filter adapter like Mattituck was showing on their rebuild in OSH. Thanks Ron Patterson N8ZD reserved FWF --0-1139714383-1065641229=:98879-- ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Scott Brown" <scottbrown(at)precisionjet.com>
Subject: RV STUFF FOR SALE
Date: Oct 08, 2003
Listers, I still have the following for sale: - front and rear Jon Johansen seats - full leading edge tank skins - harmon rocket fuel tank skins Please respond off-line. Thanks, Scott ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: GRT EFIS
Date: Oct 08, 2003
From: "David.vonLinsowe" <David.vonLinsowe(at)delphi.com>
Hi Jerry, I'm upgrading to the Grand Rapids EFIS-EIS in my flying RV-6. The start ship date for the EFIS should be the 15th of this month, the EIS is in stock. I've got the EIS in the panel and just starting to do the wiring. If you're looking for a dealer check with Greg Panzl at Wingtip to Wingtip, he's got the best prices I've found. With the way the system integrates the EFIS, Garmin 430 and the Digiflight IIVSG it should be quite the setup! Now I'll just have to learn how to use it all. :-) Dave From: Jerry2DT(at)aol.com Subject: RV-List: GRT EFIS Folks... Is anyone on the list using the Grand Rapids EFIS/Engine Monitor yet? Any and all input/opinions are appreciated. This thing looks like a good unit. Jerry Cochran ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Helms" <jhelms(at)i1.net>
Subject: Re: Why are so many RV's registered in Delaware ???
Date: Oct 08, 2003
Incorporating or creating a Limited Liability Corporation (regardless of the state) can be useful for certain things and not as effective as folks think for others. Those that say that they are worthless probably live in a very liberal state (California). If you have more than one owner or non-owner pilots, setting up a corporation to own the plane is a good idea. In a lawsuit, normally, the people who could be sued would be the pilot (he'll be at the crash site) and whomever is listed as the owner with the FAA. If you own a plane as two individual owners, and one of you crashes, then the other partner can be sued even if he's not there. If you own a plane and have a pilot who doesn't own it flying it, you could be sued for allowing the non-owner to fly that plane. So, for these instances corporations can possibly be useful as protection for the owner as an individual. This use for an LLC or Inc is one of the primary benefits. However, each state has different laws and climates for their state courts (where the liability lawsuit is likely to be brought). The reason for the apparent ineffectiveness of Inc. and LLCs to work for airplanes is that the lawsuit can be brought in the state that the accident happens in as opposed to the state the plane is kept and registered in. Planes tend to go all over the country, and thus the laws where you stop (suddenly) can be applied. California has notoriously liberal laws, and yes, if the corporations sole purpose is to evade liability then the 'coporate veil' could be 'pierced' and the actual owner(s) assets could be at risk. Delaware is notorious for having the most conservative laws regarding 'piercing the corporate veil'. That's why so many companies are registered there. Bottom line is that setting up an inc or llc is not completely worthless in every situation, but could be depending upon the state in which you crash. John "JT" Helms Branch Manager NationAir Insurance Agency Pleasure and Business Branch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tedd McHenry" <tedd(at)vansairforce.org> Subject: Re: RV-List: Why are so many RV's registered in Delaware ??? On Wed, 8 Oct 2003, P M Condon wrote: --snip-- > If some lawyer really wants a piece of you, would a sham, bogus company > regrestry address in Delaware really save your butt?? I must be missing > something because so many RV's (and other airplane owners) use this > service.... It's more than just bogus companies. Nine out of ten major American corporations are incorporated in Delaware. I don't know that the legal subtlties of this are, but I assume they are very real. Tedd McHenry Surrey, BC ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
Subject: Dynon G feature
Date: Oct 08, 2003
I've noticed that I can reset the G-meter on the Dynon, power it off, back on, then the min G always reads "2.0". Is this a bug or a feature I don't understand. I'm using the latest software version. - Larry Bowen Larry(at)BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
Subject: Why are so many RV's registered in Delaware ???
Date: Oct 08, 2003
Aren't there tax advantages to the Delaware thing? - Larry Bowen Larry(at)BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Scott Bilinski [mailto:bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 2:35 PM > To: rv-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV-List: Why are so many RV's registered in Delaware ??? > > > --> <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com> > > I was told by a lawyer that if its obviously a "corporation" > for the protection of a individual then the corporate veil > can be pierced. > > > > > >http://www.rvproject.com/rvfinder.jsp > > > >>From time to time I have read why folks register their RV's in > >>Delware, > >but, truely, are the > >benefits all there...and real ?? If some lawyer really wants > a piece of > >you, would a sham, bogus company regrestry address in > Delaware really > >save your butt?? I must be missing something because so many > RV's (and > >other airplane owners) use this service.... > > > > > > > Scott Bilinski > Eng dept 305 > Phone (858) 657-2536 > Pager (858) 502-5190 > > > =========== > Matronics Forums. > =========== > http://www.matronics.com/trouble-report > > =========== > =========== > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "RV_8 Pilot" <rv_8pilot(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: gaskets needed for my O-320
Date: Oct 08, 2003
Try EnParts in Lancaster, TX for the cover. might even be able to help with the oil filter adapter. 1-800-444-3305 Bryan Jones -8 Pearland, Texas >From: Ron Patterson <scc_ron(at)yahoo.com> >Reply-To: rv-list(at)matronics.com >To: rv-list(at)matronics.com >Subject: RV-List: gaskets needed for my O-320 >Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 12:27:09 -0700 (PDT) > > >--0-1139714383-1065641229=:98879 > >Hi guys, > >Just got my cylinders back from Lycon and decided to paint the case...which >required my removing all the accessories from the back of the engine. > >Can anyone guide me to where I can get a metal cover for the vacuum pump >(won't be using it), gaskets for the magnetos and fuel pump and other >accessory gaskets for my O-320? I also need to find a 90 degree oil filter >adapter like Mattituck was showing on their rebuild in OSH. > >Thanks >Ron Patterson >N8ZD reserved FWF > >--0-1139714383-1065641229=:98879 > >Hi guys, > >Just got my cylinders back from Lycon and decided to paint the >case...which required my removing all the accessories from the back of the >engine. > >Can anyone guide me to where I can get a metal cover for the vacuum >pump (won't be using it), gaskets for the magnetos and fuel pump and other >accessory gasketsfor my O-320? I also need to find a 90 degree oil >filter adapter like Mattituck was showing on their rebuild in OSH. > >Thanks >Ron Patterson >N8ZD reserved FWF >--0-1139714383-1065641229=:98879-- > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 08, 2003
From: Charlie & Tupper England <cengland(at)netdoor.com>
Subject: Re: gaskets needed for my O-320
Ron Patterson wrote: > >--0-1139714383-1065641229=:98879 > >Hi guys, > >Just got my cylinders back from Lycon and decided to paint the case...which required my removing all the accessories from the back of the engine. > >Can anyone guide me to where I can get a metal cover for the vacuum pump (won't be using it), gaskets for the magnetos and fuel pump and other accessory gaskets for my O-320? I also need to find a 90 degree oil filter adapter like Mattituck was showing on their rebuild in OSH. > >Thanks >Ron Patterson >N8ZD reserved FWF > I've had good luck for almost 15 years calling Linda Lou in Memphis TN. 1-800-824-9912. Courteous, competent, prompt service. Charlie ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John" <n1cxo320(at)salidaco.com>
Subject: Maximizing Range
Date: Oct 08, 2003
I have been pondering how to operate an RV to maximize range without adding more fuel tank capacity or slowing down to really slow speeds. In the archives I ran across the admonition, "Optimum altitude (for cruising) equals the height where full throttle provides the desired cruise RPM" (or words to that effect.) Can someone with more aeronautical knowledge than I have comment on this 'wisdom.' John ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Wheeler North <wnorth(at)sdccd.cc.ca.us>
Subject: A&P
Date: Oct 08, 2003
Glenn, I would take one exception to your list, not all A&Ps are trained. And this is a problem in some areas where the inspectors are a little loose in signing off work experience, and the candidate takes a 3 day spin course. That said, I know many good A&Ps who learned from the school of hard knocks only, but somewhere out there is a plane with all their hard knocks on it. ;{) Wheeler North A&P IA A&P Instructor ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Jerry Calvert" <rv6(at)cox.net>
Subject: Re: Mixture Cable/Attachment...
Date: Oct 08, 2003
Holler when you are in town and I can drop by and bring some tubing and check out the progress. We had the first EAA meeting at Marshal's place and it went well. I am the newsletter editor so I will have to pilfer stuff from other chapter letters! Plane is still in the garage. I need to rivet on the front skin, put on the engine oil and fuel lines, put the prop on, and of course plug the wings in and hook it all up and she would be ready to for inspection. I am going to order the hoses in next few days, so I hope to move it soon. Give me a buzz. Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: <RV6AOKC(at)aol.com> Subject: Re: RV-List: Mixture Cable/Attachment... > > Thanks Jerry!!! I would love to steal a piece of this material from > you.....but I would like to trade....I'll give you ...say....a elec. cable crimping > tool....thats it....oh..wait....I guess that is yours too...!!!! =) > > Is the "Hussy" out at the airport yet??? Im done with my forward part of the > canopy...all that is left is the cowl, baffel, FAB, and some misc > stuff...getting close I hope.....building time is limited again as Im back at work in > Houston, working the second job at the Air Force and we are expecting #2 on Nov > 11th or so.... > > Drop me an update when you can..... > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Jerry Calvert" <rv6(at)cox.net>
Subject: Re: RV-8 Accident in N TX
Date: Oct 08, 2003
For some reason they used a picture of Greg Hale's RV8 in this article??? Jerry Calvert Edmond Ok RV6 N296JC res ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kirsten Lacy" <klacy(at)totalaccess.net> Subject: Re: RV-List: RV-8 Accident in N TX > > here's another.... > > http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?ContentBlockID=0263216f-575c-484c-bb44-a2 > 3e943d3a1c&#d > > Kirsten Stugart Lacy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "RV_8 Pilot" <rv_8pilot(at)hotmail.com> > To: > Subject: RV-List: RV-8 Accident in N TX > > > > > > Anyone have info on this? > > > > http://www1.faa.gov/avr/aai/M_1007_N.txt > > > > Bryan Jones -8 > > Pearland, Texas > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 08, 2003
From: Sam Buchanan <sbuc(at)hiwaay.net>
Subject: Dynon mag update
In a post of a few days ago, I mentioned that the remote magnetometer installation on my Dynon EFIS had been problematic. I am happy to report that the magnetic gremlins have been excised, and the heading function of my Dynon EFIS is now working as designed. Turns out I had a magnetometer that did not have the factory calibration data onboard its memory chip. Once the crippled mag was replaced with an intelligent one, and the field calibration routine completed, the heading indicator began working with a less than five degree error. I am confident that further tweaking will tighten the accuracy even more. Of course, if we can get these magnetic gizmos to indicate with 2-3 degrees, that is probably as close as we can expect since I don't know how we can practically align an airframe any closer than that to a particular magnetic heading on the ground or in the air. The mag in my plane is mounted on the deck under the leading edge of the vertical stab. This is a good location that is easily accessible. The only downside to this location I can see is the likely intrusion of water; I wrapped the mag in a taped plastic bag but will probably go back at some point and seal the mag with some proseal or RTV. The proximity of the mag to elevator horns and the tailwheel spring have no effect on the accuracy of the heading indications. Matter of fact, I found I could leave the ELT antenna in its original location about six inches from the magnetometer. I need to point out the commendably patient efforts of Doug Medema at Dynon to troubleshoot this problem and another issue I have had with my Dynon. If Dynon continues to support their product in this manner, they will be a major player in the EFIS game for a long time to come. I am very pleased with the Dynon EFIS and the value it represents, and look forward to future enhancements by the Dynon gang. Sam Buchanan (RV-6, 515 hrs) ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 08, 2003
From: Sam Buchanan <sbuc(at)hiwaay.net>
Subject: [Fwd: [VAF Mailing List] Woodard Service Arrangements]
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: [VAF Mailing List] Woodard Service Arrangements Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:06:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Thompson <grobdriver(at)yahoo.com> Folks, I have information about the visitation and funeral for Ernest and Marketta Woodard, lost in an RV-8 accident on 6 October. Visitation will be this Friday from 6 to 8 PM at the Gabriel Funeral Home at 393 North IH 35. The funeral will be Saturday at 2 PM at Crestview Baptist Church, 2300 Williams Drive in Georgetown. The family has asked that donations be given in lieu of flowers to the church in the Woodard's name which will assign the funds for mission work. Mike Thompson President, EAA Chapter 187 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Stein Bruch" <stein(at)steinair.com>
Subject: Maximizing Range
Date: Oct 08, 2003
Hi John, A lot depends on your particular RV and how it's configured. Mainly, Fixed Pitch vs Constant Speed. The traditional formula of altitude for 75% power at full throttle doesn't necessarily apply. This isn't always the way to achieve "econ" cruise. I'll keep this short, since a bunch of C/S guys can givey ou their specs, but here's mine. IO-360 (180hp) Fixed Pitch, 85". I can run the RPM past 2700 at any altitude to 15,000 feet (I haven't had O2 to try above that). As a result, I usually fly around at a lot less, around 2400. At 2700 I can zip along at 195-200mph, but I "sip" 10-11gph. At 2400, I can lope along at 170-175mph, and drink only 7.8-8gph. If I slow down to 160 I can get the burn down to 6.9-7.4gph. Quick math tells you the slower I go, the further I can go, but like most RV'ers I'm impatient, so I usually choose 170mph and 8gph. Gives me lots of distance in 3.5-4hrs (+reserve), which is just about all my bladder and butt really are comfortable with. Someone of the C/S guys have done extensive studies on engine parameters, fuel burn, MP, speed, etc.. would give you a much better and accurate answer than my "seat of the pants" recording! Hope this helps, Stein Bruch RV6's, Minneapolis http://www.steinair.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of John Subject: RV-List: Maximizing Range I have been pondering how to operate an RV to maximize range without adding more fuel tank capacity or slowing down to really slow speeds. In the archives I ran across the admonition, "Optimum altitude (for cruising) equals the height where full throttle provides the desired cruise RPM" (or words to that effect.) Can someone with more aeronautical knowledge than I have comment on this 'wisdom.' John ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
Subject: Dynon mag update
Date: Oct 09, 2003
"Turns out I had a magnetometer that did not have the factory calibration data onboard its memory chip." How was this determined? How can other customers be assured they don't have the same problem? - Larry Bowen Larry(at)BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Sam Buchanan [mailto:sbuc(at)hiwaay.net] > Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 10:25 PM > To: rv-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: RV-List: Dynon mag update > > > > In a post of a few days ago, I mentioned that the remote > magnetometer installation on my Dynon EFIS had been > problematic. I am happy to report that the magnetic gremlins > have been excised, and the heading function of my Dynon EFIS > is now working as designed. > > Turns out I had a magnetometer that did not have the factory > calibration data onboard its memory chip. Once the crippled > mag was replaced with an intelligent one, and the field > calibration routine completed, the heading indicator began > working with a less than five degree error. I am confident > that further tweaking will tighten the accuracy even more. Of > course, if we can get these magnetic gizmos to indicate with > 2-3 degrees, that is probably as close as we can expect since > I don't know how we can practically align an airframe any > closer than that to a particular magnetic heading on the > ground or in the air. [snip] ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 08, 2003
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From: "Kirsten Lacy" <klacy(at)totalaccess.net>
Subject: Re: RV-8 Accident in N TX
--------------Boundary-00=_1I3HQL80000000000000 --------------Boundary-00=_2I3HLVC0000000000000 Jerry, I haven't a clue as to why they used someone else's pic in this article. I had thought this site a good source of information until today. Perhaps (?) they've forgotten how personal this can be. My sister actually sent them a scathing e-mail ( she left a message on the phone, but it was not returned ) about how they had reported this story about the Woodards. Their remains were scattered...." no one, I think, wants to hear that, least of all family and friends. There was no author or reporter was listed as being responsible for this article. If you should find out why why Greg Hale's pic was used, would you please let me know via this board, or e-mail me direct. These past months have truly been an experience, learning to deal with the FAA, NTSB, and the media, searching for information. I've considered lately that I would like to use this knowledge to help other families in the same situation. Thanks for any help, resources, or insight y'all can provide. Anyone who needs info on navigating this kind of loss, please e-mail me. Kirsten Stugart Lacy ( stepping off of the soapbox, lol ) klacy(at)totalaccess.net -------Original Message------- From: rv-list(at)matronics.com Date: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 10:06:28 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: RV-8 Accident in N TX For some reason they used a picture of Greg Hale's RV8 in this article??? Jerry Calvert Edmond Ok RV6 N296JC res ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kirsten Lacy" <klacy(at)totalaccess.net> Subject: Re: RV-List: RV-8 Accident in N TX > > here's another.... > > http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?ContentBlockID0263216f-575c-484c-bb44-a2 > 3e943d3a1c&#d > > Kirsten Stugart Lacy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "RV_8 Pilot" <rv_8pilot(at)hotmail.com> > To: > Subject: RV-List: RV-8 Accident in N TX > > > > > > Anyone have info on this? > > > > http://www1.faa.gov/avr/aai/M_1007_N.txt > > > > Bryan Jones -8 > > Pearland, Texas > > > > > > rt --------------Boundary-00=_2I3HLVC0000000000000 1"> What are people using for their interior cabin paint? I tested a spray can of Tempo Aircraft Enamel.; I eventually figured out how to get a reasonably good result (it tends to orange peel very easily), but the shade of gray is wrong for my interior and it's only available in just a few other colors. I'd prefer something in a spray can. A paint that I'd have to use a spray gun with is OK as long as it's something less lethal than an isocyanate paint. I'd like to get by using just a common Home depot respirator mask. -- Tom Sargent RV-6A advertising on the Matronics Forums. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 16, 2003
From: Mark Phillips <ripsteel(at)edge.net>
Subject: Re: fire retardant
Hi Bert- As a practical matter, if my seats were anywhere near catching fire, I'm fairly certain that I would be a little too busy to worry about it... Besides, I'd NEVER let a flame get close to these lovely things DJ made for me, as I couldn't bear the thought of all that cowhide going up in smoke!! I'd say use whatever your eyes, fanny & wallet are happy with! From The PossumWorks in TN Mark bert murillo wrote: > Where can one get seats for our rv's, which > meet the FAA specs. for fire retardant material? ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 16, 2003
Subject: Re: cabin interior paint

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