RV-Archive.digest.vol-qe
December 05, 2004 - December 08, 2004
| Subject: | Re: Molex connectors |
Gary,
Perhaps instead of saying that no one replied, I should have said that I
didn't see a reply on the List. For that matter, I can't find a reply in the
archives either. Something has gone wrong somewhere. Would you please
repost?
Ivan
----- Original Message -----
| From: | <Vanremog(at)aol.com> |
Subject: Re: Fw: RV-List: Molex connectors
>
>
> In a message dated 12/5/2004 3:10:02 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> baremetl(at)gvtc.com writes:
>
> Since no one answered this question from a few days ago I'm going to give
it
> another try. I just know there a resident electrical genius monitoring
this
> list!
> Ivan Haecker -4 1100 hrs. S. Cen. TX
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "H.Ivan Haecker" <baremetl(at)gvtc.com>
> To:
> Subject: RV-List: Molex connectors
>
>
> >
> > Listers,
> > Can someone in the know tell me if .062" molex terminals are capable
of
> handling the current flow required for a taillight/strobe unit in the
rudder
> or are the larger diameter (.093) terminals necessary?
>
>
> ==============================
>
> I beg your pardon, but I answered correctly on 12/01.
>
>
> GV (RV-6A N1GV, Flying 730hrs)
>
>
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| From: | Vanremog(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: RV-List "Molex" connectors |
In a message dated 12/1/2004 10:01:41 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
baremetl(at)gvtc.com writes:
Can someone in the know tell me if .062" molex terminals are capable of
handling the current flow required for a taillight/strobe unit in the rudder or
are the larger diameter (.093) terminals necessary?
============================
Tyco AMP .082" contact connectors are normally used for strobe connections
supplied by Whelan and you should generally use what the manufacturer
recommends. If you have the low mojo Aeroflash type then maybe you could get
by with
the .062" Molex, but keep in mind that on a smaller connector the contact
"pitch" is less, putting the contacts closer together which may allow high
voltage arcing.
GV (RV-6A N1GV, Flying 725hrs)
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| Subject: | Molex connectors |
| From: | "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart(at)iss.net> |
-----Original Message-----
From: Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)
Subject: RE: RV-List: Molex connectors
A very quick google search yielded the specs for the pins.
http://www.ttieurope.com/microsites/molex/products_items/other/power_con
nector/index.cfm
These are good for 5 amp circuits.
Another quick google search yielded the specs for the 093 also
http://www.esskabel.de/Produkte/Steckverbinder/Steckverbindersereien/Mol
ex/MOLEX-haupt.htm
.093 is good for 12 amps.
Also the Aeroelectric list has lots of discussions on these as well.
Enjoy
Mike Stewart
Wiring my brains out.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of H.Ivan Haecker
Subject: RV-List: Molex connectors
Listers,
Can someone in the know tell me if .062" molex terminals are capable of
handling the current flow required for a taillight/strobe unit in the
rudder or are the larger diameter (.093) terminals necessary?
Thanks,
Ivan Haecker
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| Subject: | Re: RV-8 Canopy Latch |
Bill, I would like to order one of your latches.
Ray Grenier
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| From: | "Eustace Bowhay" <ebowhay(at)jetstream.net> |
Upon receiving the order form for the finishing kit for the RV 10 the upholstery
decision could not be put off any longer.
I was impressed with the quality of the Oregon Aero seats in Van's first 10. On
checking with Oregon Aero the cost for the four seats is just beyond what I have
budgeted for. This was a disappointment as I had planned on using them.
I considered having them done locally but was concerned about the quality and appearance.
Then I remembered the comments on the list about Flight Line Interiors
and gave them a call. Abby answered the phone and I asked her if she would
be interested in doing them for me. Her enthusiasm was immediately apparent and
referred me to her web page and sent me samples of the materials available.
There is a great variety and they are fire resistant.
The rear seats for the 10 are very similar to the front seats in the two place
RV's so the cost was easily established, she hasn't done a set of front seats
yet for the 10 so an exact price was not available for them however the foam is
supplied with the front seats so the cost of the upholstery should be reasonable.
After looking at her web site I realize that she is specializing in upholstery
for the RV's and the quality looks very professional. For me it seems the way
to go and am shipping my front seats to her.
Eustace Bowhay Blind Bay B.C.
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| From: | Bluecavu(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Cold/Lean Cylinders |
>
> >> The problem doesn't exist at full throttle conditions (while running
>> in cold air). All CHT's & EGT's are within reason: within 25* for
>> CHT's
>> & within 100* for EGT's. It's only when I come off of a full throttle
>> condition that I am having this problem.
>
Hmmm. I have a similar problem -although not quite as pronounced. RV-4. O-320
Marvel Sheb. One thing that keeps occurring to me is that the manifold
pressures at partial power settings are much lower than at full throttle (I know
this sounds like duh!, but stick with me here) -put differently -the *vacuum*
existing in the intake system (which would tend to exacerbate any leakage) is
*much* higher at partial throttle than at full throttle -where it's practically
nil (if not non-existant with a good ram-air recovery). I keep thinking this
must have something to do with why it's only a problem at partial power
settings... like intake leaks typically are.
Here's the thing...It would seem that this vacuum could also tend to make
the differences in flow in even a non-leaky intake more pronounced. Path of
least resistance, right? Obviously the dense cold air just amplifies it that much
more... Anyone? Anyone?
One answer... go back to having no engine monitoring equip except for OP and
OT. Be fat dumb and happy.
Scott
N4ZW
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| From: | "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569(at)hotmail.com> |
David,
I have access to the Service Instruction 1218A. It does say that you must
change the accessory drive housing when converting to the intergal drive
camshaft. There are also a couple of other parts that need to change. If
you send me a FAX number off list I will send you a copy of the Service
Instruction. It is only 4 pages long.
Mike Robertson
>From: David L Ahrens <daviddla(at)juno.com>
>Reply-To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
>To: RV-List(at)matronics.com
>Subject: RV-List: Engine overhaul
>Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 10:45:55 -0800
>
>
>Hello list members: I am rebuilding a 0-320B3B. I have most of the parts
>that I need except for the camshaft. The question I have is, can I change
>to the camshaft with the intergal gear? I have the parts book and know
>the different parts that are required at the tach drive end. I am
>concerned about the possible need to change out the accessory case
>because of oil slinger, etc.. I have not been able to locate a copy of
>Lycoming Service Letter 1218A that addresses the conversion. Can anyone
>help?
>Thanks and happy holidays, David Ahrens, RV6A
>
>
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| From: | "Gar Pessel" <pessel(at)ptialaska.net> |
| Subject: | Bag Contents List |
I have started building a 9A (I have a 6 flying for a couple of years) and
am missing a bag contents list for the wings of the 9A. Being familiar with
most parts, I did not inventory each baggie when I got the kit. Now I
discover that the enclosed bag contents list for the 9A wings is for the
wings of an RV10. My bad, I confess. For a repeat offender, this is
humiliating.
When I was building the 6, someone had compiled a bag contents list in excel
for RV's. It was most useful, since I put it in an Access database and
could look up whatever widget I wanted on a laptop in the shop rather than
scanning long lists of bag contents.
The list available at Matronics is apparently that old list and does not
include RV9 bags. Anybody know where I might get a more modern file??
Thanks, Gar Pessel, Fairbanks, Alaska (hit 20 below this morning--good
time to build airplanes)
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| From: | "Robert Cutter" <rcutter(at)cupower.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Bag Contents List |
I bought a partially completed -4 and called Van's. They sent me a bag list by
email for the -4. Have you tried them?
Robert Cutter
Fuselage
----- Original Message -----
From: Gar Pessel
To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 12:56 PM
Subject: RV-List: Bag Contents List
I have started building a 9A (I have a 6 flying for a couple of years) and
am missing a bag contents list for the wings of the 9A. Being familiar with
most parts, I did not inventory each baggie when I got the kit. Now I
discover that the enclosed bag contents list for the 9A wings is for the
wings of an RV10. My bad, I confess. For a repeat offender, this is
humiliating.
When I was building the 6, someone had compiled a bag contents list in excel
for RV's. It was most useful, since I put it in an Access database and
could look up whatever widget I wanted on a laptop in the shop rather than
scanning long lists of bag contents.
The list available at Matronics is apparently that old list and does not
include RV9 bags. Anybody know where I might get a more modern file??
Thanks, Gar Pessel, Fairbanks, Alaska (hit 20 below this morning--good
time to build airplanes)
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| From: | "Stucklen, Frederic W UTPWR" <Fred.Stucklen(at)UTCFuelCells.com> |
| Subject: | Re:Cold/Lean Cylinders |
Martin,
Good points. I've already replaced the carb with another unit from Sport
Aero,
with the same problems. Temp gauges have all been double checked against
boiling
water and Ice bath, so I know they are accurate..
The mixture control is out less than 1/2" when I start to see the EGT's
coming down on #3 & #4 EGT's... I can double check the float level, but I'm
relatively sure it's already at the spec'ed level. ( I have the service
manual).
Ignition timing has been double checked: it's at 25* BTDC. I'm using two
electronic ignitions that have been checked with a timing light and analog
signals from each ignition.....
Fred Stucklen
RV-6A N926RV
Hi Fred,
FWIW - it would seem to me that provided your instrumentation is
accurate,
that maybe your carb is providing a leaner than normal mixture, either
from
too small a jet or because the float level is set too low. At full
throttle, the extra mixture enrichment could be masking this leanness.
I would disassemble the carb and check float level and jets and
passageways.
As a matter of interest, how far out from the panel does the mixture
control
get before it starts having a noticeable effect ? My O-320 D1A starts
to
run rough when my mixture control is out about 3/4 of an inch.
If everything checks out, and there are no airleaks, you could check
the
ignition timing for over-advance.
Cheers
Martin in Oz
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| From: | "Stucklen, Frederic W UTPWR" <Fred.Stucklen(at)UTCFuelCells.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Cold/Lean Cylinders |
Alex,
I have the Electronic international fuel flow meter in the plane. When the
problem occurs, I'm still in the 9.5 GPH range (instead of 8.5 GPH in hot
air)
because the #1 & #2 cylinders are running real rich.
Ultimately, (according to Lycoming) the CHT's are the real indication of
the proper fuel mixture, but they are very slow in responding. EGT's give
the
initial trends for CHT's, and have a faster response time.....
This appears to be a fuel sharing issue. I might have to put a honeycomb
air flow straightener between the sump and the carb to fix the problem....
Fred Stucklen
RV-6A N926RV
Fred, very precise description of your observations. It really seems
like
your partial throttle, full rich mixture position fuel flows are too
low. I
gather that you don't have a fuel flow meter in the plane. I don't
know
much about these carbs, but it sure seems like it is running things
too lean
(cold air would make that worse). A fuel flow sensor is not cheap,
but I
consider it a must have for proper engine management. The only real
look at
the panel during the takeoff roll for me is to verify that I have full
fuel
flow to the engine. The leaning process for me is always first by
feel,
then by fuel flow, then by egt.
Alex Peterson
RV6-A 559 hours
Maple Grove, MN
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| From: | "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Cold/Lean Cylinders |
> UTPWR"
>
> Alex,
>
> I have the Electronic international fuel flow meter in the
> plane. When the
>
> problem occurs, I'm still in the 9.5 GPH range (instead of
> 8.5 GPH in hot
> air)
> because the #1 & #2 cylinders are running real rich.
> Ultimately, (according to Lycoming) the CHT's are the real
> indication of the proper fuel mixture, but they are very slow
> in responding. EGT's give the initial trends for CHT's, and
> have a faster response time.....
> This appears to be a fuel sharing issue. I might have to
> put a honeycomb
> air flow straightener between the sump and the carb to fix
> the problem....
>
> Fred Stucklen
> RV-6A N926RV
Fred,
What fuel flow do you have at full power, full rich, at or near sea level?
And what hp engine?
Alex Peterson
RV6-A 559 hours
Maple Grove, MN
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alexpeterson/
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| From: | "Dave Mader" <davemader(at)bresnan.net> |
| Subject: | Re:Cold/Lean Cylinders |
FWIW
I had a slightly similar problem with my RV6 about ten years ago. The
problem was that
when I brought the mixture back just a tiny bit, the engine would lean out
and want to
die, ran fine at full rich though. I posed this problem to the list back
then and somebody
suggested I drill out my main jet to a certain drill bit #. This was a M/S
carb and I don't
remember the particulars, but it solved the problem and the carb behaved
normally
after that. This could be a similar situation.
--Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Stucklen,
Frederic W UTPWR
Subject: RV-List: Re:Cold/Lean Cylinders
Martin,
Good points. I've already replaced the carb with another unit from Sport
Aero,
with the same problems. Temp gauges have all been double checked against
boiling
water and Ice bath, so I know they are accurate..
The mixture control is out less than 1/2" when I start to see the EGT's
coming down on #3 & #4 EGT's... I can double check the float level, but I'm
relatively sure it's already at the spec'ed level. ( I have the service
manual).
Ignition timing has been double checked: it's at 25* BTDC. I'm using two
electronic ignitions that have been checked with a timing light and analog
signals from each ignition.....
Fred Stucklen
RV-6A N926RV
Hi Fred,
FWIW - it would seem to me that provided your instrumentation is
accurate,
that maybe your carb is providing a leaner than normal mixture, either
from
too small a jet or because the float level is set too low. At full
throttle, the extra mixture enrichment could be masking this leanness.
I would disassemble the carb and check float level and jets and
passageways.
As a matter of interest, how far out from the panel does the mixture
control
get before it starts having a noticeable effect ? My O-320 D1A starts
to
run rough when my mixture control is out about 3/4 of an inch.
If everything checks out, and there are no airleaks, you could check
the
ignition timing for over-advance.
Cheers
Martin in Oz
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| From: | Wheeler North <wnorth(at)sdccd.cc.ca.us> |
| Subject: | How smooth was it? |
It was so smooth Saturday just as a front was moving in that I was able to
trim to 66 kts and use throttle and the Trio Avionics E-Z Pilot to auto-land
the airplane.
Well,,, I shut it off just as the tail wheel touched down and the mains were
just ready to chirp.
The down side was the darned autopilot had the tailwheel almost 2 full feet
to the right of the centerline.
It was pretty cool because my home airport is in a bowl so tends to have a
little crosswind until about 30 ft agl then it goes dead calm. The nose
stayed glued off course about 3-5 degrees until the dead zone, then
corrected almost immediately and the plane was tracking straight ahead with
no rudder input at touchdown.
I have notified the boys at Trio so they can start working on an auto
braking feature as well as all the other nifty stuff they are tinkering
with.
Now, that all said, I would never have even considered trying that with a
Navaid, and would never recommend trying it to anyone with anything other
than a 757. It was fairly stupid for me to try it and in fact I didn't
really plan this, but it was so smooth I just never needed to do anything
but minor throttle adjustments. About the time I started adding throttle to
reduce vertical speed for touchdown I realized I hadn't shut off the servo.
So the tail wheel touched about the time my hand hit the servo button.
Kudos to the Trio folks, much like Vans designs their products work as
advertised, if not slightly better.
W
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| From: | Oldsfolks(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: > Re: Bag contents |
Go to _www.vansairforce.net/_ (http://www.vansairforce.net/) and look
for the parts bag list on the left column of the home page. The RV-9 is
there too.
Bob Olds RV-4 , N1191X
A&P , EAA Tech. Counselor
Charleston,Arkansas
Real Aviators Fly Taildraggers
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| From: | "William Davis" <rvpilot(at)access4less.net> |
| Subject: | Re: RV-8 Canopy Latch |
Hi Ray,
Thanks for your interest in my canopy latch
The preferred method of payment is by personal check.
Please send $25 + $2 for S&H to:
William Davis
119 Ridgeview Dr.
Eustis, FL 32726
Thanks, Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: <GRENIER(at)aol.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: RV-8 Canopy Latch
>
> Bill, I would like to order one of your latches.
>
> Ray Grenier
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| From: | "DejaVu" <wvu(at)mail.ameritel.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Decison time |
To be specific, OA charges ~$3000-$4000 for the -10 upholstery depending on
the material. The fwd chairs and all foam come with the finish kit which is
another $4000.
What does Abby charge for other seats roughly? Would also appreciate her
website.
Anh
-10
#141
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eustace Bowhay" <ebowhay(at)jetstream.net>
Subject: RV-List: Decison time
>
> Upon receiving the order form for the finishing kit for the RV 10 the
upholstery decision could not be put off any longer.
>
> I was impressed with the quality of the Oregon Aero seats in Van's first
10. On checking with Oregon Aero the cost for the four seats is just beyond
what I have budgeted for. This was a disappointment as I had planned on
using them.
>
> I considered having them done locally but was concerned about the quality
and appearance. Then I remembered the comments on the list about Flight Line
Interiors and gave them a call. Abby answered the phone and I asked her if
she would be interested in doing them for me. Her enthusiasm was immediately
apparent and referred me to her web page and sent me samples of the
materials available. There is a great variety and they are fire resistant.
>
> The rear seats for the 10 are very similar to the front seats in the two
place RV's so the cost was easily established, she hasn't done a set of
front seats yet for the 10 so an exact price was not available for them
however the foam is supplied with the front seats so the cost of the
upholstery should be reasonable.
>
> After looking at her web site I realize that she is specializing in
upholstery for the RV's and the quality looks very professional. For me it
seems the way to go and am shipping my front seats to her.
>
> Eustace Bowhay Blind Bay B.C.
>
>
> ---
>
>
---
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| From: | Jeff Point <jpoint(at)mindspring.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Decison time |
http://my.execpc.com/~erdmannb/index.htm
All the prices are on the site.
Jeff Point
>
>
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| From: | Wheeler North <wnorth(at)sdccd.cc.ca.us> |
| Subject: | airoil spearator |
I've been flying for 250+- hours with the Aircraft Spruce P/N 10570 Air Oil
Separator -
And it has worked very well-
Without the steel wool -
Check my first post on this issue, not all ACS separators are the same. My
outlet has been routed onto the exhaust since day one, and this only partly
helped the belly problem. Mostly it just made things blacker but still oily.
The new one was made with much more internal overlap of the inlet and
outlet. In fact the old one has the pipes pointed almost straight at each
other with about 2" of space between them.
I currently have the return drain routed back to the engine, but I'm liking
the idea of a preflight drain sump instead.
RE internal corrosion, having taken apart a large number of engines with
less than 24 hours of down time prior to disassembly I can assure you that
the oil does not stay coated on the steel parts for very long after running
off of hot engine parts during cool down. Any moisture that condenses on
steel inside will and does start corroding fairly quickly.
I'm guessing the gig is can you put 2000 hours on your engine before the
corrosion gets the better end of your engine. Those of us who fly a lot just
wear out the dang thing out before corrosion can do its ugly deed.
W
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| From: | "Andre Berthet" <aberthet(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | Fire Suppression System-items from my personal archive |
David,
I'm also one who thinks having an onboard fire suppression system could be a
good life saving measure.
I did some searches on the Matronics archives (RVs) and found mostly
deriding comments on such a system.
Their point being, because of the very high air velocity going through the
engine compartment; it would disperse the Halon gas before it could
extinguish any fires.
This would be true if the fire was localized in the high pressure area
delimited by the baffling (engine top). However any fire between the
firewall and the back on the engine (fuel pump, fuel and oil lines) or close
to the injection/carburetor area is in a slower airflow.
Besides engine fires are rarely located at the engine block or cylinders,
but to the supporting accessories (fuel pump leaks, broken fuel or oil
lines, induction backfiring, induction fire, overheated turbo or exhaust,
etc.).
An ideal system would also include some kind of optical or heat-sensing
detection device, so the pilot could get an early warning.
The first response to an engine fire would be to shut-off the fuel selector
and master, let the engine starve while rapidly slowing down, and then
flooding the engine compartment with Halon. Next would be getting ready for
an emergency landing.
The piston-driven airliners of the 50's were equipped with fire suppression
blowing dibromodifluoromethane directly inside the engine nacelles. If it
worked for them then, it should work for our tight fitted cowling too.
Andre
Pleasanton, CA
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-
> server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Carter
> Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 1:56 PM
> To: rv-list(at)matronics.com; gbrasch(at)earthlink.net
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Fire Suppression System-items from my personal
> archive
>
>
> I've attached 3 articles saved off of www.H3R.com website
> (1.800.249.4289),
> plus 3 e-mails with initial ideas on "how to mount".
>
> These will be stripped off by the RV-list so sending direct to you, Glenn.
> Anyone else, contact me direct & I'll fwd this e-mail to you with
> attachments.
>
> I'm planning on a Halon system in my RV-6.
>
> David Carter
> Nederland, Texas
> Canopy frame
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Glenn Brasch" <gbrasch(at)earthlink.net>
> To:
> Subject: RV-List: Fire Suppression System
>
>
> >
> > Has anyone installed a fire suppression system/bottle, and if so what
> > brand? I searched the archives and saw some arguments pro and con, but
> > that was about it. A friend has a system in a Glasair and it looks like
> > cheap insurance to me. Thanks in advance. Glenn in Arizona -9A
> fuselage.
>
>
>
>
>
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| From: | luckymacy(at)comcast.net (lucky) |
| Subject: | XCOM 760 radio pictures |
http://home.comcast.net/~luckymacy/xcom760.html
After the long, hard time I had getting this thing once I place my original order,
it finally arrived and so far works as advertised on the ground. Since no
one on the list ever published a picture when I asked for one I throw a couple
of them out there so here's a couple of pictures showing you just how small
it is. (I hate comcast's publishing wizard program - anyone have one that's easy
drop and drag picture and text buildup?) I wish I could convey how light it
is too. Amazing. Built in VOX works great too but it's been all on the ground
so far. The Wiring harness came with the connectors already on which made
installing some the rear seat stuff a challenge since there were no holes that
big in the plane. They all had to be redone or cut the wire up and route then
reconnect. I chose to open the holes. You may want to ask for the connectors
not hooked up.
Lucky
http://home.comcast.net/~luckymacy/xcom760.html
Afterthe long, hard time I had getting this thing once I place my original order,
it finally arrived and so far works as advertised on the ground. Since no one
on the list ever published a picture when I asked for one I throw a couple
of them out there so here's a couple of pictures showing you just how small it
is.(I hate comcast's publishing wizard program - anyone haveone that's easy drop
and drag picture and text buildup?)I wish I could convey how light it is too.
Amazing. Built in VOX works great too but it's been all on the ground so far.
The Wiring harness came with the connectors already on which made installing
some the rear seat stuff a challenge since there were no holes that big in
the plane. They all had to be redone or cut the wire up and route then reconnect.
I chose to open the holes. You may want to ask for the connectors not hooked
up.
Lucky
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| From: | CBRxxDRV(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Trailing edge - Flaps Aileron |
This is a QB -8
Cut out my wing form, mounted my aileron, began to
position the flap with the 1/4 gap between the flap and
aileron ........The trailing edge of the flap when the piano
hinge is as it should be is 3/16" short. The hinge was already
mounted to the flap. If I postion the flap so the
trailing edges line up the hinge is too thin. I searched the archives
and one mention of a larger hinge was mentioned, and only mentioned.
What am I missing here ???
RV-4
RV-8 Tail
Sal Capra
Lakeland, FL.
My Home Page
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| From: | "George Steube" <at6c(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Trailing edge - Flaps Aileron |
Nothing!!! The flap hinge is in the wrong place. I had the same situation
on my QB-8. I called Van's and was basically told too bad. I ask they
supply a wider hinge to use on the trailing edge, since it was their
building error and was told I could buy it from them if I wanted it. I
bought it from Wick's. I will also buy a lot other things from Wicks
instead of Van's.
George
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of CBRxxDRV(at)aol.com
Subject: RV-List: Trailing edge - Flaps Aileron
This is a QB -8
Cut out my wing form, mounted my aileron, began to
position the flap with the 1/4 gap between the flap and
aileron ........The trailing edge of the flap when the piano
hinge is as it should be is 3/16" short. The hinge was already
mounted to the flap. If I postion the flap so the
trailing edges line up the hinge is too thin. I searched the archives
and one mention of a larger hinge was mentioned, and only mentioned.
What am I missing here ???
RV-4
RV-8 Tail
Sal Capra
Lakeland, FL.
My Home Page
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| From: | Wheeler North <wnorth(at)sdccd.cc.ca.us> |
| Subject: | Air/Fuel Inbalance |
A few thoughts on this issue.
If the carb is installed in the normal position the throttle lever is on the
right side. This puts the pivot line of the throttle plate bisecting
cylinders 1 & 2 from 3 & 4. I just checked all 12 MS carbs sitting in my
cabinet and they are all designed to have the throttle shaft move CCW when
facing the throttle lever to open. This means the Fwd edge of the throttle
plate moves up and the Aft edge moves down.
With the discharge nozzle directly below this, this should cause fuel to be
pushed to the fwd side until the throttle plate is mostly open. Additionally
the angle of the discharge nozzle would tend to also aggravate this.
Since this does jive with the symptoms described, why don't all MS carbs
have this problem? And, I'm not sure that they don't given that we have no
way to determine if cylinder temperature variences are due to variences in
cooling vs variences in mixture.
Consequently, I have always thought this to be one of the weak aspects of
carburetors, but have never really proved it causes problems universally.
One interesting (but not easy) experiment would be to turn the carb around
and see if the problem flipped.
Another possibility is that something in the air filter is exacerbating the
weakness of the carb.
This problem may also go away as the temperature rises due to better
vaporization. I don't remember if you said it was effected by carb heat or
not? Also, is your oil temp up to snuff. The lycoming sump plays a big role
in induction and vaporization.
Also, my experience has been that drilling jets causes more problems than it
solves unless you have a good machine shop to make a perfect hole. I would
look to buying a larger jet before I drilled one of these.
Another aspect of this is these "tubes" integrate the metering jet, the main
and economizer airbleed jets and the discharge tube all into one unit.
Drilling one of these may not take you towards the desired balance. I also
don't see where making everything richer is going to fix the rear half
without negatively impacting the front half.
W
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| From: | "Stucklen, Frederic W UTPWR" <Fred.Stucklen(at)UTCFuelCells.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Cold/Lean Cylinders |
Alex,
I'm showing about 11.2 GPH at full throttle on climb out and
in cruise at full throttle...
Fred Stucklen
RV-6A N926RV
Fred,
What fuel flow do you have at full power, full rich, at or near sea
level?
And what hp engine?
Alex Peterson
RV6-A 559 hours
Maple Grove, MN
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| From: | "Tony Marshall" <tony(at)lambros.com> |
In my RV6 are two directionally beamable 'eyeball' lights placed to illuminate
my panel. They are mounted on each side of the cockpit just below the slider
rail a bit ahead of the pilot/co-pilot's shoulders. In real darkness I find the
light to be too bright and the beam insufficiently diffused across the panel.
I think the problem could be lessened by somehow making those lights "red".
Does anyone have any ideas on how one might make them red? Thanks.
Tony Marshall
www.lambros.com
P.O. Box 906
Polson, MT 59860
800-432-6828 Office
406-249-0835 Cell
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| From: | Hopperdhh(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Panel Lighting |
In a message dated 12/7/04 11:09:54 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
tony(at)lambros.com writes:
> Does anyone have any ideas on how one might make them red? Thanks.
>
> Tony Marshall
>
Tony,
I think you could paint the bulbs red with "clear red" fingernail polish.
Dan Hopper
RV-7A
N766DH (Flying since July)
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| From: | George Neal E Capt AU/PC <Neal.George(at)maxwell.af.mil> |
A red Sharpie or a drop of thinned nail polish...
Apply several coast till you get the desired result.
Neal
> Does anyone have any ideas on how one might make them red? Thanks.
Tony Marshall
<
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| From: | "Ed Bundy" <edbundy(at)velocitus.net> |
I have the same setup in my 6a, and I just put the eyeballs on a rheostat.
That way I can dim them as much as necessary based on ambient light, but
still have bright white light available when needed.
Ed Bundy - RV6A 600+ hours
Eagle, Idaho
> In my RV6 are two directionally beamable 'eyeball' lights placed
> to illuminate my panel. They are mounted on each side of the
> cockpit just below the slider rail a bit ahead of the
> pilot/co-pilot's shoulders. In real darkness I find the light to
> be too bright and the beam insufficiently diffused across the
> panel. I think the problem could be lessened by somehow making
> those lights "red". Does anyone have any ideas on how one might
> make them red? Thanks.
>
---
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| From: | "Evan and Megan Johnson" <evmeg(at)snowcrest.net> |
| Subject: | fuel tank building |
Gentlemen, I have recently had several inquiries on the same subject, so I thought
I would just post my answer to all. The question has been whether or not I
would be willing to seal tanks for builders who have already drilled and dimpled
the parts.......essentially taken the tanks up to the point where the proseal
comes into play. Well, I prefer to build the whole tank, but the answer is
yes. I will work with you at whatever stage of building you have reached. There
are a few airplanes like the rockets and the RV 3, that I do not have tank
jigs for, so this is really the only viable option. I typically offer to build
these projects on a time and materials basis. The labor from this point on is
usually very close to the half way point in tank assembly. If you go to my website
or call me, you can get the specifics for your particular model. It is
important that you keep everything in order and label your parts so I can reassemble
them. Please mark the left tank parts with a red sharpie pen and the right
with green or black. The number 1 rib is the most inboard and so on. Also
mark the fuel cap flange with an arrow pointing forward to the leading edge. The
inspection plate reinforcing ring will also need a mark so I can get it back
in the right orientation. Really the more notation you use the easier it will
be to put the puzzle back together. To make sure you have included all of the
hardware I will need, please download a parts list off of my website, or call
and I will fax one. I will take care of the sealing and pressure checking from
here.......I have built well over 200 sets of RV tanks to date. You can expect
excellent workmanship and perfect seals. I do not make a mess of the sealant
and I use only what I need to do the job properly. (think light weight). Feel
free to email or call me any time with questions.
Cheers.....
Evan Johnson
www.evansaviationproducts.com
(530)247-0375
(530)351-1776cell
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| From: | Sam Buchanan <sbuc(at)hiwaay.net> |
| Subject: | Re: fuel tank building |
Evan and Megan Johnson wrote:
....I have built well over 200 sets of RV tanks to date.
> You can expect excellent workmanship and perfect seals. I do not make
> a mess of the sealant and I use only what I need to do the job
> properly. (think light weight).
Evan, how much sealer do you use for a set of tanks?
Sam Buchanan
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics(at)rv8.ch> |
| Subject: | OT - Cheap headsets needed |
Hi,
Not directly RV related, but hopefully someone on the list
can give me some tips. I'm looking for some real cheap headsets
to use for the *very* occasional passenger - like once or twice
a year. I've been borrowing a set from the flight club, but
from time to time they are all loaned out. Any ideas most welcome.
Thanks,
Mickey
--
Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
#82007 QB Wings/Fuselage
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| From: | George Neal E Capt AU/PC <Neal.George(at)maxwell.af.mil> |
| Subject: | OT - Cheap headsets needed |
Mickey -
Consider the LightSpeed QFR Cross Country series.
Neal
> Headsets to use for the *very* occasional passenger <
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| From: | Greg.Puckett(at)united.com |
| Subject: | RE: Panel Lighting |
Tony,
What lamp does your eyeball light take=3F
Most standard lamps, ex. GE1816, are available in an 'R' version. Adding
the R to the part number(1816R) denotes the lamp glass itself is red.
Finding them can be tough sometimes.
I see Chief has the GE 313R but that's the only red bulb they stock.
Greg
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Bobby Hester" <bhester(at)hopkinsville.net> |
| Subject: | Re: OT - Cheap headsets needed |
http://www.ebay.com/
or use this direct link to Headsets: http://tinyurl.com/4tcgh
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics(at)rv8.ch>
> To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
> Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2004 20:20 (CDT)
> Subject: RV-List: OT - Cheap headsets needed
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Not directly RV related, but hopefully someone on the list
> can give me some tips. I'm looking for some real cheap headsets
> to use for the *very* occasional passenger - like once or twice
> a year. I've been borrowing a set from the flight club, but
> from time to time they are all loaned out. Any ideas most welcome.
>
> Thanks,
> Mickey
>
> --
> Mickey Coggins
> http://www.rv8.ch/
> #82007 QB Wings/Fuselage
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
-------
Surfing the web from Hopkinsville, KY
RV7A web site: http://www.geocities.com/hester-hoptown/RVSite
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| Subject: | Proseal instead of RTV on Van's static ports |
| From: | Mark Schrimmer <mschrimmer(at)pacbell.net> |
Would ProSeal work to seal the thin plastic tube to the pop rivets in Van's
static system, or should I stick to RTV? I have to mix up some ProSeal for
something else, so I thought I might use it to seal the static ports, too.
Thanks,
Mark
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Bill Dube <bdube(at)al.noaa.gov> |
| Subject: | Re: Panel Lighting |
>
>In my RV6 are two directionally beamable 'eyeball' lights placed to
>illuminate my panel. They are mounted on each side of the cockpit just
>below the slider rail a bit ahead of the pilot/co-pilot's shoulders. In
>real darkness I find the light to be too bright and the beam
>insufficiently diffused across the panel. I think the problem could be
>lessened by somehow making those lights "red". Does anyone have any ideas
>on how one might make them red? Thanks.
I'm not sure what type bulb is involved. You can buy red LED
substitute bulbs for a very limited number of bulb styles. These would be
the easiest fix if you are lucky.
Here is a link to a company that has quite a few 12 volt LEDs with
standard bases: http://www.americanbrightled.com/
>>>> Building your own LED substitute bulb <<<<
It isn't that difficult to make your own LED bulb substitute. You
use the base from an incandescent bulb, smash the bulb itself, then connect
the LED and ballast resistor to the wires. Pot the wires in clear epoxy.
Make sure that the short wire of the LED connects to the positive lead
(usually the center) of the bulb base.
Selecting the correct LED is not that difficult. First figure out
what "viewing angle" you need. That is, how you want the light from the LED
to spread out. Next, figure out how many candlepower you need. Put an
"incident light" type photographic meter 1 ft away from the existing light
and read the candlepower. Next, peruse the web www.Digikey.com,
www.AmericanBrightLED.com, http://www.mpja.com/category/LEDs/LEDs.asp
etc. for bright LEDs
There are some mighty bright LEDs out there. You are very likely
to be able to find a single LED that will put out the cone of light that
you need. If you need a LOT of light, you can group and aim several LEDs.
The ballast resistor for the typical 20 mA LED is 600 ohms, 1/4
watt (or greater). Put the ballast resistor in series with each LED.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
LED lights is what I know:
http://www.killacycle.com/Lights.htm
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| From: | Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics(at)rv8.ch> |
| Subject: | Re: Proseal instead of RTV on Van's static ports |
Hi Mark,
I used RTV to "glue" the rivets in there, but RTV would
not stick to the plastic tube at all. I ended up using
a very small zip tie to attach the plastic tube to the
rivet.
Mickey
>Would ProSeal work to seal the thin plastic tube to the pop rivets in Van's
>static system, or should I stick to RTV? I have to mix up some ProSeal for
>something else, so I thought I might use it to seal the static ports, too.
--
Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
#82007 QB Wings/Fuselage
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| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
| Subject: | OT - Cheap headsets needed |
Ebay.com
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mickey Coggins [mailto:mick-matronics(at)rv8.ch]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 2:20 PM
> To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: RV-List: OT - Cheap headsets needed
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Not directly RV related, but hopefully someone on the list
> can give me some tips. I'm looking for some real cheap
> headsets to use for the *very* occasional passenger - like
> once or twice a year. I've been borrowing a set from the
> flight club, but from time to time they are all loaned out.
> Any ideas most welcome.
>
> Thanks,
> Mickey
>
> --
> Mickey Coggins
> http://www.rv8.ch/
> #82007 QB Wings/Fuselage
>
>
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> ========
> Matronics Forums.
> ========
> ========
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| From: | Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics(at)rv8.ch> |
| Subject: | Re: Panel Lighting |
>LED lights is what I know:
>http://www.killacycle.com/Lights.htm
Bill,
After looking at your web site, it seems like you know
a few other things besides LED lights. Cool stuff. And
I thought wiring my RV8 was a challenge.
Mickey
--
Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
#82007 QB Wings/Fuselage
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| From: | "David Carter" <dcarter(at)datarecall.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Proseal instead of RTV on Van's static ports |
I used safety wire and my safety wire pliers to get a good, tight "clamp" on
the plastic tubing over the rivet.
David
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mickey Coggins" <mick-matronics(at)rv8.ch>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Proseal instead of RTV on Van's static ports
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> I used RTV to "glue" the rivets in there, but RTV would
> not stick to the plastic tube at all. I ended up using
> a very small zip tie to attach the plastic tube to the
> rivet.
>
> Mickey
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jim Jewell" <jjewell(at)telus.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Buying my engine |
Hi Dwight,
I expect that you will find that firewall layout time will find you needing
an engine in place.
At least some of the decisions that you make about firewall forward
components and their various positions will be effected by the engine mount
and the engine itself.
I found that mounting the engine to the engine mount then removing and
replacing the assembled unit a few times gave me the best results. I hung
the engine and mount from the ceiling on a chain come along and pushed the
air frame back and forth for fitting sessions.
Having at least a core engine with all the accessories you expect to
utilizes in place would be helpful.
Oil filter - yes or no, oil cooler, various hoses, electrical components,
scat tubes, Fuel metering? etc.. It gets pretty busy back there.
For instance the prop governor with it's control cable mount in place might
have some small differences in size, control cable bracket position and
profile shape that might be different. The choice of props therefore could
have at least a small effect on your particular firewall layout. I used Vans
firewall layout drawing and adjusted per personal preference.
I lack experience with fuel injection, - No technical suggestions re
induction. Getting rid of the lower intake snout on the cowl might be nice?
The question of Dynafocal 1 or 2 might depend on which engine case you wind
up with.
Basically the Dynafocal 1 is Vans standard issue if you choose by from them.
It could also be that Dynafocal 1 is all that is available in the Lycoming
IO 360 series? - Nothing to offer as to D1 verses D2
I expect that Bart Lalonde at Aero Sport Power engines already on your list.
If not add them.
I Hope This Helps,
Jim in Kelowna
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dwight Frye" <dwight(at)openweave.org>
> snip<
> One question is regarding at what point in construction do I _need_ to
> have the engine in hand? For you smart-alecks, I do know I've got to
> have it before I fly (and before I fit the cowl, etc.). :) But what
> is the first point in the construction process where having it on hand
> is *really* useful (or even mandatory)?
>
> To set a baseline for the next questions, I'll say that I'm building an
> RV-7 and that I've already decided on 180HP, fuel injection, and CS prop.
> Which prop is still under consideration, however. :)
>
> The other questions I have are regarding various configuration options.
> I realize that there may be no "right answer" to these sorts of questions,
> but I'm going to ask 'em anyway. What is "better" ... horizontal or
> vertical induction? Dynafocal 1 or Dynafocal 2? And if folks have any
> input on various engine suppliers, I'm game to hear them (though I have
> been reading along here for years, and already have a bit of a feel for
> some of the favorite players).
>
> Thanks!
>
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| From: | "Evan and Megan Johnson" <evmeg(at)snowcrest.net> |
| Subject: | Re: fuel tank building |
Well it depends on the model of the aircraft. The trick is of course to use
enough to seal the tank without having it build up unnecessarily and add a
bunch (we are talking about pounds here guys) of weight. What you want to
see is that perfect squidge around the ribs and baffle.You may be surprised
at how much weight you can add with too much sealant. In a world or aircraft
people who worry about the weight of the paint on their airframes, this is a
big concern. I have found that most of the time builders use more than is
really necessary. Your airplane I believe is an RV 6, and I typically use
about 2/3 of a can of sealant on the pair. Please remember that I do this
almost every day, so some of this is technique. I always tell my clients
that it's not rocket science, but there is a learning curve. I would caution
that in most cases it is better to use too much rather than too little. The
best choice of all of course is just to send me your parts :)
Evan
http://www.evansaviationproducts.com/
(530)247-0375
(530)351-1776 cell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sam Buchanan" <sbuc(at)hiwaay.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: fuel tank building
>
> Evan and Megan Johnson wrote:
>
> ....I have built well over 200 sets of RV tanks to date.
> > You can expect excellent workmanship and perfect seals. I do not make
> > a mess of the sealant and I use only what I need to do the job
> > properly. (think light weight).
>
>
> Evan, how much sealer do you use for a set of tanks?
>
> Sam Buchanan
>
>
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| From: | "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Cold/Lean Cylinders |
Fred, bingo. If you have a 160 horse, it should be burning about 14 gph at
full throttle, sea level, full rich. If it is a 180, it should be around 16
gph. Somehow, you are not putting enough fuel in. Is the 11.2 at sea level
or close?
Alex Peterson
>
> Alex,
>
> I'm showing about 11.2 GPH at full throttle on climb out
> and in cruise at full throttle...
>
> Fred Stucklen
> RV-6A N926RV
>
>
>
> Fred,
>
> What fuel flow do you have at full power, full rich, at
> or near sea level?
> And what hp engine?
>
> Alex Peterson
> RV6-A 559 hours
> Maple Grove, MN
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Sam Buchanan <sbuc(at)hiwaay.net> |
| Subject: | Re: fuel tank building |
Evan and Megan Johnson wrote:
>
> Well it depends on the model of the aircraft. The trick is of course to use
> enough to seal the tank without having it build up unnecessarily and add a
> bunch (we are talking about pounds here guys) of weight. What you want to
> see is that perfect squidge around the ribs and baffle.You may be surprised
> at how much weight you can add with too much sealant. In a world or aircraft
> people who worry about the weight of the paint on their airframes, this is a
> big concern. I have found that most of the time builders use more than is
> really necessary. Your airplane I believe is an RV 6, and I typically use
> about 2/3 of a can of sealant on the pair. Please remember that I do this
> almost every day, so some of this is technique. I always tell my clients
> that it's not rocket science, but there is a learning curve. I would caution
> that in most cases it is better to use too much rather than too little. The
> best choice of all of course is just to send me your parts :)
>
> Evan
> http://www.evansaviationproducts.com/
> (530)247-0375
> (530)351-1776 cell
Thanks for the reply, Evan. I am not surprised at the 2/3 can per pair
of tanks; seems I used between 2/3 and 3/4 can on my tanks. I have
occasionally seen extreme amounts of sealer on tanks that I have
inspected during the course of EAA Tech counselor visits. We even hear
sometimes of a builder ordering *another* can of sealer from Vans! :-)
Sam Buchanan
>>
>>Evan, how much sealer do you use for a set of tanks?
>>
>>Sam Buchanan
>>
>>
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| From: | Fiveonepw(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Proseal instead of RTV on Van's static ports |
In a message dated 12/07/2004 3:48:40 PM Central Standard Time,
mick-matronics(at)rv8.ch writes:
I used RTV to "glue" the rivets in there, but RTV would
not stick to the plastic tube at all. I ended up using
a very small zip tie to attach the plastic tube to the
rivet.
>>>
GOOP- amazing stuff. Use on just about anything but styrofoam (looks like
alien blood going through the deckplates of the Nostromo...)
Mark
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| From: | Charlie England <ceengland(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Trailing edge - Flaps Aileron |
CBRxxDRV(at)aol.com wrote:
>
>
>This is a QB -8
>Cut out my wing form, mounted my aileron, began to
>position the flap with the 1/4 gap between the flap and
>aileron ........The trailing edge of the flap when the piano
>hinge is as it should be is 3/16" short. The hinge was already
>mounted to the flap. If I postion the flap so the
>trailing edges line up the hinge is too thin. I searched the archives
>and one mention of a larger hinge was mentioned, and only mentioned.
>What am I missing here ???
>
>
>RV-4
>RV-8 Tail
>
>Sal Capra
>Lakeland, FL.
> My Home Page
>
If you are saying that the hinge is too narrow to maintain proper edge
distance at the rivet holes, you aren't alone.
My neighbor just went through exactly that on his QB-8 with Van's. He
was effectively told, "Yes, that happens sometimes. you have to buy the
wider flange hinge, drill off the old one & replace it. No, we won't
replace it for free, even though we know it's a problem."
Yes, Van's A/C is a great company.
Perfect? They ain't.
Charlie
(let the flames begin) :-)
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| From: | Scott VanArtsdalen <svanarts(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Trailing edge - Flaps Aileron |
You could just buy the wider hinge from your favorite supplier, take the
pin out and use the wider half on the area that isn't meeting edge
distance specs.
Charlie England wrote:
>
>CBRxxDRV(at)aol.com wrote:
>
>
>
>>
>>
>>This is a QB -8
>>Cut out my wing form, mounted my aileron, began to
>>position the flap with the 1/4 gap between the flap and
>>aileron ........The trailing edge of the flap when the piano
>>hinge is as it should be is 3/16" short. The hinge was already
>>mounted to the flap. If I postion the flap so the
>>trailing edges line up the hinge is too thin. I searched the archives
>>and one mention of a larger hinge was mentioned, and only mentioned.
>>What am I missing here ???
>>
>>
>>RV-4
>>RV-8 Tail
>>
>>Sal Capra
>>Lakeland, FL.
>>My Home Page
>>
>>
>>
>
>If you are saying that the hinge is too narrow to maintain proper edge
>distance at the rivet holes, you aren't alone.
>
>My neighbor just went through exactly that on his QB-8 with Van's. He
>was effectively told, "Yes, that happens sometimes. you have to buy the
>wider flange hinge, drill off the old one & replace it. No, we won't
>replace it for free, even though we know it's a problem."
>
>Yes, Van's A/C is a great company.
>Perfect? They ain't.
>
>Charlie
>(let the flames begin) :-)
>
>
>
>
--
Scott VanArtsdalen
Van Arts Consulting Services
3848 McHenry Ave
Suite #155-184
Modesto, CA 95356
209-986-4647
Ps 34:4,6
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| From: | Vanremog(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Cold/Lean Cylinders |
In a message dated 12/7/2004 8:02:48 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
Fred.Stucklen(at)UTCFuelCells.com writes:
I'm showing about 11.2 GPH at full throttle on climb out and
in cruise at full throttle...
Fred Stucklen
RV-6A N926RV
Fred,
What fuel flow do you have at full power, full rich, at or near sea
level?
And what hp engine?
=====================================
That's good for about 120 hp rich, 150 lean.
GV (RV-6A N1GV, Flying 730hrs)
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | CBRxxDRV(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Trailing edge - Flaps Aileron |
In a message dated 12/7/04 9:18:32 PM Eastern Standard Time,
svanarts(at)yahoo.com writes:
> You could just buy the wider hinge from your favorite supplier, take the
> pin out and use the wider half on the area that isn't meeting edge
> distance specs.
>
Thanks all for the replies. I am going to order the larger hinge AN257 P4
and that should cure the problem. I did talk to Vans and did come up with the
same answer. As someone said it aint all perfect and I can
live with buying a new hinge.
RV-4
RV-8 QB ....wing
Sal Capra
Lakeland, FL
My Home Page
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Scott VanArtsdalen <svanarts(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Trailing edge - Flaps Aileron |
That's surprizingly bad customer service on the part of Van's to say in
effect, "Yeah, we built it wrong, too bad."
I love the plane, but brisk sales is a poor excuse for bad customer service.
CBRxxDRV(at)aol.com wrote:
>
>In a message dated 12/7/04 9:18:32 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>svanarts(at)yahoo.com writes:
>
>
>
>
>>You could just buy the wider hinge from your favorite supplier, take the
>>pin out and use the wider half on the area that isn't meeting edge
>>distance specs.
>>
>>
>>
>
>Thanks all for the replies. I am going to order the larger hinge AN257 P4
>and that should cure the problem. I did talk to Vans and did come up with the
>
>same answer. As someone said it aint all perfect and I can
>live with buying a new hinge.
>
>
>RV-4
>RV-8 QB ....wing
>
>Sal Capra
>Lakeland, FL
> My Home Page
>
>
>
>
--
Scott VanArtsdalen
Van Arts Consulting Services
3848 McHenry Ave
Suite #155-184
Modesto, CA 95356
209-986-4647
Ps 34:4,6
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Proseal instead of RTV on Van's static ports |
In a message dated 12/7/04 12:45:10 PM Pacific Standard Time,
mschrimmer(at)pacbell.net writes:
<< Would ProSeal work to seal the thin plastic tube to the pop rivets in Van's
static system, or should I stick to RTV? I have to mix up some ProSeal for
something else, so I thought I might use it to seal the static ports, too. >>
ProSeal is a what I used and it seems to be working just fine. Only 13 hours
so far of course.
Harry Crosby
Pleasanton, California
RV-6, flying!!!
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "jacklockamy" <jacklockamy(at)verizon.net> |
| Subject: | Re: OT - Cheap headsets needed |
Check www.ebay.com
I see lots of inexpensive new and used aviation headsets for sale there.....
Jack Lockamy
Camarillo, CA
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Todd Bartrim" <haywire(at)telus.net> |
| Subject: | XCOM 760 radio pictures |
Hi Lucky;
I received my radio awhile ago and am also impressed with the small size
and overall quality, however I do have a couple of beefs.
First is the music input; It is not high quality, it actually doesn't sound
very good at all. I suspect that it may be that the amp is optimized for the
frequency of the human voice and when the music exceeds these frequencies it
clips the signal. The radio & intercom quality is excellent however.
The second beef is they advertise (still) an extra audio input, but they
dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected this and even e-mailed about
this last year when I didn't see a provision for it on the wiring diagram.
The answer I got back wasn't very clear, so I just assumed it would be clear
when I got the "real" instructions with it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
and was told they decided 2 years ago not to have the extra audio input.
This is nice to have for feeding the audio output from my AOA, engine
monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested using an audio panel, but one of
the attractions of this radio is the built-in intercom and no need for an
audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into the pilot side headset output, which
works well with the advantage that it won't transmit alarms if they come on
while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't hear them either. Unfortunately
they aren't amplified this way and don't mute the music. This is something I
would like to see addressed.
Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric memory. I complained about this
as
well and they claim that future upgrades will address this, but it will
require changing of the LCD, which they claim can be done by the user. I
don't have a problem with this, however I can see it being enough of a
problem for many, so that they will have enough issues to not do this. I
really don't want to send it back to Oz for an upgrade.
Overall I do like the radio, however these few issues prevent me from
wholeheartedly recommending the radio to others.
Todd Bartrim
RV9Endurance
13B Turbo Rotary
C-FSTB
http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
"The world will always have a place for those that bring hard
work and determination to the things they do."
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Ron Schreck" <ronschreck(at)webkorner.com> |
| Subject: | Hartzell Governor |
Listers, I have a Hartzell Type F governor on my RV-8. The cable support bracket
sold by Vans does not appear to fit this particular model. Does anyone know
if there is another source? Also, the covernor control is spring loaded to
return to the screw stop. I assume this is the fine pitch stop. Am I correct?
If someone has a similar governor please send me some info/pictures detailing
your cable attachment. Thanks in advance.
Ron Schreck
RV-8
Gold Hill Airpark, NC
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | luckymacy(at)comcast.net (lucky) |
| Subject: | XCOM 760 radio pictures |
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have
a separate stereo audio input in which auto cuts off when a signal comes in
from the audio panel. I'll continue to use that if I feel the need for music.
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all areas customer & technical as I think the
basic super light and small, dual watch radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine
far.
-------------- Original message --------------
>
> Hi Lucky;
> I received my radio awhile ago and am also impressed with the small size
> and overall quality, however I do have a couple of beefs.
> First is the music input; It is not high quality, it actually doesn't
> sound
> very good at all. I suspect that it may be that the amp is optimized for the
> frequency of the human voice and when the music exceeds these frequencies it
> clips the signal. The radio & intercom quality is excellent however.
> The second beef is they advertise (still) an extra audio input, but they
> dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected this and even e-mailed about
> this last year when I didn't see a provision for it on the wiring diagram.
> The answer I got back wasn't very clear, so I just assumed it would be clear
> when I got the "real" instructions with it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
> and was told they decided 2 years ago not to have the extra audio input.
> This is nice to have for feeding the audio output from my AOA, engine
> monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested using an audio panel, but one of
> the attractions of this radio is the built-in intercom and no need for an
> audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into the pilot side headset output, which
> works well with the advantage that it won't transmit alarms if they come on
> while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't hear them either. Unfortunately
> they aren't amplified this way and don't mute the music. This is something I
> would like to see addressed.
> Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric memory. I complained about this
> as
> well and they claim that future upgrades will address this, but it will
> require changing of the LCD, which they claim can be done by the user. I
> don't have a problem with this, however I can see it being enough of a
> problem for many, so that they will have enough issues to not do this. I
> really don't want to send it back to Oz for an upgrade.
> Overall I do like the radio, however these few issues prevent me from
> wholeheartedly recommending the radio to others.
>
> Todd Bartrim
>
> RV9Endurance
> 13B Turbo Rotary
> C-FSTB
> http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
>
> "The world will always have a place for those that bring hard
> work and determination to the things they do."
>
>
>
>
>
>
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have
a separate stereo audio inputin which auto cuts off when a signal comes in from
the audio panel. I'll continue to use that if I feel the need for music.
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all areascustomer technical as I think the
basic super light and small,dual watch radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
-------------- Original message --------------
-- RV-List message posted by: "Todd Bartrim"
Hi Lucky;
I received my radio awhile ago and am also impressed with the small size
and overall quality, however I do have a couple of beefs.
First is the music input; It is not high quality, it actually doesn't
sound
very good at all. I suspect that it may be that the amp is optimized for the
frequency of the human voice and when the music exceeds these frequencies it
clips the signal. The radio intercom quality is excellent however.
The second beef is they advertise (still) an extra audio input, but they
dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected this and even e-mailed about
this last year when I didn't see a provision for it on the wiring diagram.
The answer I got back wasn't very clear, so I just assumed it would be clear
when I got the "real" instructions with it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
and was told they decided 2 years ago not to have the extra audio input.
This is nice to have for feeding the audio output from my AOA, engine
monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested using an audio panel, but one of
the attractions of this radio is the built-in intercom and no need for an
audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into the pilot side headset output, which
works well with the advantage that it won't transmit alarms if they come on
while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't hear them either. Unfortunately
they aren't amplified this way and don't mute the music. This is something I
would like to see addressed.
Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric memory. I complained about this
as
well an
d they claim that future upgrades will address this, but it will
require changing of the LCD, which they claim can be done by the user. I
don't have a problem with this, however I can see it being enough of a
problem for many, so that they will have enough issues to not do this. I
really don't want to send it back to Oz for an upgrade.
Overall I do like the radio, however these few issues prevent me from
wholeheartedly recommending the radio to others.
Todd Bartrim
RV9Endurance
13B Turbo Rotary
C-FSTB
http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
"The world will always have a place for those that bring hard
work and determination to the things they do."
nd Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!)
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "mul-t-lock -" <mul-t-lock(at)menara.ma> |
-------- Message d'origine--------
De: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com de la part de lucky
Date: mer. 08/12/2004 14:35
=C0: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Cc:
Objet: RE: RV-List: XCOM 760 radio pictures
=09
=09
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT EFIS to the audio input. My headsets
have a separate stereo audio input in which auto cuts off when a signal
comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue to use that if I feel the need
for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all areas customer & technical as I
think the basic super light and small, dual watch radio w/ integrated VOX is
just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
>
> Hi Lucky;
> I received my radio awhile ago and am also impressed with the small size
> and overall quality, however I do have a couple of beefs.
> First is the music input; It is not high quality, it actually doesn't
> sound
> very good at all. I suspect that it may be that the amp is optimized
for the
> frequency of the human voice and when the music exceeds these frequencies
it
> clips the signal. The radio & intercom quality is excellent however.
> The second beef is they advertise (still) an extra audio input, but they
> dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected this and even e-mailed about
> this last year when I didn't see a provision for it on the wiring diagram.
> The answer I got back wasn't very clear, so I just assumed it would be
clear
> when I got the "real" instructions with it. Nada. So I e-mailed them
again
> and was told they decided 2 years ago not to have the extra audio input.
> This is nice to have for feeding the audio output from my AOA, engine
> monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested using an audio panel, but
one of
> the attractions of this radio is the built-in intercom and no need for
an
> audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into the pilot side headset output,
which
> works well with the advantage that it won't transmit alarms if they come
on
> while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't hear them either. Unfortunately
> they aren't amplified this way and don't mute the music. This is something
I
> would like to see addressed.
> Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric memory. I complained about this
> as
> well and they claim that future upgrades will address this, but it will
> require changing of the LCD, which they claim can be done by the user.
I
> don't have a problem with this, however I can see it being enough of
a
> problem for many, so that they will have enough issues to not do this.
I
> really don't want to send it back to Oz for an upgrade.
> Overall I do like the radio, however these few issues prevent me from
> wholeheartedly recommending the radio to others.
>
> Todd Bartrim
>
> RV9Endurance
> 13B Turbo Rotary
> C-FSTB
> http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
>
> "The world will always have a place for those that bring hard
> work and determination to the things they do."
>
>
>
>
>
>
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT EFIS to the audio input. My headsets
have a separate stereo audio inputin which auto cuts off when a signal comes
in from the audio panel. I'll continue to use that if I feel the need for
music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all areascustomer technical as I think
the basic super light and small,dual watch radio w/ integrated VOX is just
fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
-- RV-List message posted by: "Todd Bartrim"
=09
Hi Lucky;
I received my radio awhile ago and am also impressed with the small size
and overall quality, however I do have a couple of beefs.
First is the music input; It is not high quality, it actually doesn't
sound
very good at all. I suspect that it may be that the amp is optimized for
the
frequency of the human voice and when the music exceeds these frequencies
it
clips the signal. The radio intercom quality is excellent however.
The second beef is they advertise (still) an extra audio input, but they
dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected this and even e-mailed about
this last year when I didn't see a provision for it on the wiring diagram.
=09
The answer I got back wasn't very clear, so I just assumed it would be
clear
when I got the "real" instructions with it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
and was told they decided 2 years ago not to have the extra audio input.
This is nice to have for feeding the audio output from my AOA, engine
monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested using an audio panel, but
one of
the attractions of this radio is the built-in intercom and no need for
an
audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into the pilot side headset output,
which
works well with the advantage that it won't transmit alarms if they come
on
while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't hear them either. Unfortunately
they aren't amplified this way and don't mute the music. This is something
I
would like to see addressed.
Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric memory. I complained about this
as
well an
d they claim that future upgrades will address this, but it will
require changing of the LCD, which they claim can be done by the user.
I
don't have a problem with this, however I can see it being enough of a
problem for many, so that they will have enough issues to not do this.
I
really don't want to send it back to Oz for an upgrade.
Overall I do like the radio, however these few issues prevent me from
wholeheartedly recommending the radio to others.
=09
Todd Bartrim
=09
RV9Endurance
13B Turbo Rotary
C-FSTB
http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
=09
"The world will always have a place for those that bring hard
work and determination to the things they do."
=09
=09
nd Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!)
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
-------- Message d'origine--------
De: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com de la part de lucky
Date: mer. 08/12/2004 14:35
=C0: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Cc:
Objet: RE: RV-List: XCOM 760 radio pictures
=09
=09
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT EFIS to the audio input.
My headsets have a separate stereo audio input in which auto cuts off when
a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue to use that if I feel the
need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all areas customer & technical
as I think the basic super light and small, dual watch radio w/ integrated
VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
>
> Hi Lucky;
> I received my radio awhile ago and am also impressed with the
small size
> and overall quality, however I do have a couple of beefs.
> First is the music input; It is not high quality, it actually
doesn't
> sound
> very good at all. I suspect that it may be that the amp is optimized
for the
> frequency of the human voice and when the music exceeds these
frequencies it
> clips the signal. The radio & intercom quality is excellent however.
> The second beef is they advertise (still) an extra audio input,
but they
> dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected this and even e-mailed
about
> this last year when I didn't see a provision for it on the wiring
diagram.
> The answer I got back wasn't very clear, so I just assumed it
would be clear
> when I got the "real" instructions with it. Nada. So I e-mailed
them again
> and was told they decided 2 years ago not to have the extra audio
input.
> This is nice to have for feeding the audio output from my AOA,
engine
> monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested using an audio panel,
but one of
> the attractions of this radio is the built-in intercom and no
need for an
> audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into the pilot side headset
output, which
> works well with the advantage that it won't transmit alarms if
they come on
> while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't hear them either.
Unfortunately
> they aren't amplified this way and don't mute the music. This
is something I
> would like to see addressed.
> Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric memory. I complained
about this
> as
> well and they claim that future upgrades will address this, but
it will
> require changing of the LCD, which they claim can be done by
the user. I
> don't have a problem with this, however I can see it being enough
of a
> problem for many, so that they will have enough issues to not
do this. I
> really don't want to send it back to Oz for an upgrade.
> Overall I do like the radio, however these few issues prevent
me from
> wholeheartedly recommending the radio to others.
>
> Todd Bartrim
>
> RV9Endurance
> 13B Turbo Rotary
> C-FSTB
> http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
>
> "The world will always have a place for those that bring hard
> work and determination to the things they do."
>
>
>
>
>
>
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT EFIS to the audio input.
My headsets have a separate stereo audio inputin which auto cuts off when a signal
comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue to use that if I feel the need
for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all areascustomer technical
as I think the basic super light and small,dual watch radio w/ integrated VOX
is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
-- RV-List message posted by: "Todd Bartrim"
=09
Hi Lucky;
I received my radio awhile ago and am also impressed with the
small size
and overall quality, however I do have a couple of beefs.
First is the music input; It is not high quality, it actually
doesn't
sound
very good at all. I suspect that it may be that the amp is optimized
for the
frequency of the human voice and when the music exceeds these
frequencies it
clips the signal. The radio intercom quality is excellent however.
The second beef is they advertise (still) an extra audio input,
but they
dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected this and even e-mailed
about
this last year when I didn't see a provision for it on the wiring
diagram.
=09
The answer I got back wasn't very clear, so I just assumed it
would be clear
when I got the "real" instructions with it. Nada. So I e-mailed
them again
and was told they decided 2 years ago not to have the extra audio
input.
This is nice to have for feeding the audio output from my AOA,
engine
monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested using an audio panel,
but one of
the attractions of this radio is the built-in intercom and no
need for an
audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into the pilot side headset
output, which
works well with the advantage that it won't transmit alarms if
they come on
while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't hear them either.
Unfortunately
they aren't amplified this way and don't mute the music. This
is something I
would like to see addressed.
Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric memory. I complained about
this
as
well an
d they claim that future upgrades will address this, but it will
require changing of the LCD, which they claim can be done by the
user. I
don't have a problem with this, however I can see it being enough
of a
problem for many, so that they will have enough issues to not
do this. I
really don't want to send it back to Oz for an upgrade.
Overall I do like the radio, however these few issues prevent
me from
wholeheartedly recommending the radio to others.
=09
Todd Bartrim
=09
RV9Endurance
13B Turbo Rotary
C-FSTB
http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
=09
"The world will always have a place for those that bring hard
work and determination to the things they do."
=09
=09
nd Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!)
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
-------- Message d'origine--------
De: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com de la part de lucky
Date: mer. 08/12/2004 14:35
=C0: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Cc:
Objet: RE: RV-List: XCOM 760 radio pictures
=09
=09
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT EFIS to the audio
input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio input in which auto cuts off
when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue to use that if
I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all areas customer
& technical as I think the basic super light and small, dual watch radio w/ integrated
VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
>
> Hi Lucky;
> I received my radio awhile ago and am also impressed
with the small size
> and overall quality, however I do have a couple of beefs.
> First is the music input; It is not high quality, it
actually doesn't
> sound
> very good at all. I suspect that it may be that the amp
is optimized for the
> frequency of the human voice and when the music exceeds
these frequencies it
> clips the signal. The radio & intercom quality is excellent
however.
> The second beef is they advertise (still) an extra audio
input, but they
> dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected this and
even e-mailed about
> this last year when I didn't see a provision for it on
the wiring diagram.
> The answer I got back wasn't very clear, so I just assumed
it would be clear
> when I got the "real" instructions with it. Nada. So
I e-mailed them again
> and was told they decided 2 years ago not to have the
extra audio input.
> This is nice to have for feeding the audio output from
my AOA, engine
> monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested using an
audio panel, but one of
> the attractions of this radio is the built-in intercom
and no need for an
> audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into the pilot side
headset output, which
> works well with the advantage that it won't transmit
alarms if they come on
> while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't hear them
either. Unfortunately
> they aren't amplified this way and don't mute the music.
This is something I
> would like to see addressed.
> Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric memory. I complained
about this
> as
> well and they claim that future upgrades will address
this, but it will
> require changing of the LCD, which they claim can be
done by the user. I
> don't have a problem with this, however I can see it
being enough of a
> problem for many, so that they will have enough issues
to not do this. I
> really don't want to send it back to Oz for an upgrade.
> Overall I do like the radio, however these few issues
prevent me from
> wholeheartedly recommending the radio to others.
>
> Todd Bartrim
>
> RV9Endurance
> 13B Turbo Rotary
> C-FSTB
> http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
>
> "The world will always have a place for those that bring
hard
> work and determination to the things they do."
>
>
>
>
>
>
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT EFIS to the audio
input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio inputin which auto cuts off
when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue to use that if I feel
the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all areascustomer
technical as I think the basic super light and small,dual watch radio w/ integrated
VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
-- RV-List message posted by: "Todd Bartrim"
=09
Hi Lucky;
I received my radio awhile ago and am also impressed with
the small size
and overall quality, however I do have a couple of beefs.
First is the music input; It is not high quality, it actually
doesn't
sound
very good at all. I suspect that it may be that the amp
is optimized for the
frequency of the human voice and when the music exceeds
these frequencies it
clips the signal. The radio intercom quality is excellent
however.
The second beef is they advertise (still) an extra audio
input, but they
dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected this and
even e-mailed about
this last year when I didn't see a provision for it on
the wiring diagram.
=09
The answer I got back wasn't very clear, so I just assumed
it would be clear
when I got the "real" instructions with it. Nada. So I
e-mailed them again
and was told they decided 2 years ago not to have the
extra audio input.
This is nice to have for feeding the audio output from
my AOA, engine
monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested using an audio
panel, but one of
the attractions of this radio is the built-in intercom
and no need for an
audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into the pilot side
headset output, which
works well with the advantage that it won't transmit alarms
if they come on
while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't hear them
either. Unfortunately
they aren't amplified this way and don't mute the music.
This is something I
would like to see addressed.
Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric memory. I complained
about this
as
well an
d they claim that future upgrades will address this, but
it will
require changing of the LCD, which they claim can be done
by the user. I
don't have a problem with this, however I can see it being
enough of a
problem for many, so that they will have enough issues
to not do this. I
really don't want to send it back to Oz for an upgrade.
Overall I do like the radio, however these few issues
prevent me from
wholeheartedly recommending the radio to others.
=09
Todd Bartrim
=09
RV9Endurance
13B Turbo Rotary
C-FSTB
http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
=09
"The world will always have a place for those that bring
hard
work and determination to the things they do."
=09
=09
nd Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!)
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
-------- Message d'origine--------
De: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com de la part
de lucky
Date: mer. 08/12/2004 14:35
=C0: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Cc:
Objet: RE: RV-List: XCOM 760 radio pictures
=09
=09
(lucky)
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT EFIS to
the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio input in which auto
cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue to use
that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all areas customer
& technical as I think the basic super light and small, dual watch radio
w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
>
> Hi Lucky;
> I received my radio awhile ago and am also impressed
with the small size
> and overall quality, however I do have a couple
of beefs.
> First is the music input; It is not high quality,
it actually doesn't
> sound
> very good at all. I suspect that it may be that
the amp is optimized for the
> frequency of the human voice and when the music
exceeds these frequencies it
> clips the signal. The radio & intercom quality
is excellent however.
> The second beef is they advertise (still) an
extra audio input, but they
> dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
> this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
> The answer I got back wasn't very clear, so I
just assumed it would be clear
> when I got the "real" instructions with it. Nada.
So I e-mailed them again
> and was told they decided 2 years ago not to
have the extra audio input.
> This is nice to have for feeding the audio output
from my AOA, engine
> monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested using
an audio panel, but one of
> the attractions of this radio is the built-in
intercom and no need for an
> audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into the pilot
side headset output, which
> works well with the advantage that it won't transmit
alarms if they come on
> while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't hear
them either. Unfortunately
> they aren't amplified this way and don't mute
the music. This is something I
> would like to see addressed.
> Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric memory.
I complained about this
> as
> well and they claim that future upgrades will
address this, but it will
> require changing of the LCD, which they claim
can be done by the user. I
> don't have a problem with this, however I can
see it being enough of a
> problem for many, so that they will have enough
issues to not do this. I
> really don't want to send it back to Oz for an
upgrade.
> Overall I do like the radio, however these few
issues prevent me from
> wholeheartedly recommending the radio to others.
>
> Todd Bartrim
>
> RV9Endurance
> 13B Turbo Rotary
> C-FSTB
> http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
>
> "The world will always have a place for those
that bring hard
> work and determination to the things they do."
>
>
>
>
>
>
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT EFIS to
the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio inputin which auto cuts
off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue to use that
if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all areascustomer
technical as I think the basic super light and small,dual watch radio
w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
-- RV-List message posted by: "Todd Bartrim"
=09
Hi Lucky;
I received my radio awhile ago and am also impressed
with the small size
and overall quality, however I do have a couple
of beefs.
First is the music input; It is not high quality,
it actually doesn't
sound
very good at all. I suspect that it may be that
the amp is optimized for the
frequency of the human voice and when the music
exceeds these frequencies it
clips the signal. The radio intercom quality
is excellent however.
The second beef is they advertise (still) an extra
audio input, but they
dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected this
and even e-mailed about
this last year when I didn't see a provision for
it on the wiring diagram.
=09
The answer I got back wasn't very clear, so I
just assumed it would be clear
when I got the "real" instructions with it. Nada.
So I e-mailed them again
and was told they decided 2 years ago not to have
the extra audio input.
This is nice to have for feeding the audio output
from my AOA, engine
monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested using
an audio panel, but one of
the attractions of this radio is the built-in
intercom and no need for an
audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into the pilot
side headset output, which
works well with the advantage that it won't transmit
alarms if they come on
while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't hear
them either. Unfortunately
they aren't amplified this way and don't mute
the music. This is something I
would like to see addressed.
Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric memory.
I complained about this
as
well an
d they claim that future upgrades will address
this, but it will
require changing of the LCD, which they claim
can be done by the user. I
don't have a problem with this, however I can
see it being enough of a
problem for many, so that they will have enough
issues to not do this. I
really don't want to send it back to Oz for an
upgrade.
Overall I do like the radio, however these few
issues prevent me from
wholeheartedly recommending the radio to others.
=09
Todd Bartrim
=09
RV9Endurance
13B Turbo Rotary
C-FSTB
http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
=09
"The world will always have a place for those
that bring hard
work and determination to the things they do."
=09
=09
nd Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!)
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
-------- Message d'origine--------
De: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com
de la part de lucky
Date: mer. 08/12/2004 14:35
=C0: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Cc:
Objet: RE: RV-List: XCOM 760 radio pictures
=09
=09
(lucky)
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio input in which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue
to use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areas customer & technical as I think the basic super light and small, dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
Bartrim"
>
> Hi Lucky;
> I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
> and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
> First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
> sound
> very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
> frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
> clips the signal. The radio & intercom
quality is excellent however.
> The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
> dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
> this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
> The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
> when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
> and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
> This is nice to have for feeding the
audio output from my AOA, engine
> monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
> the attractions of this radio is the
built-in intercom and no need for an
> audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
> works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
> while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
> they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
> would like to see addressed.
> Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
> as
> well and they claim that future upgrades
will address this, but it will
> require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
> don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
> problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
> really don't want to send it back to
Oz for an upgrade.
> Overall I do like the radio, however
these few issues prevent me from
> wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
>
> Todd Bartrim
>
> RV9Endurance
> 13B Turbo Rotary
> C-FSTB
> http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
>
> "The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
> work and determination to the things
they do."
>
>
>
>
>
>
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio inputin which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue to
use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areascustomer technical as I think the basic super light and small,dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
-- RV-List message posted by: "Todd Bartrim"
=09
Hi Lucky;
I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
sound
very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
clips the signal. The radio intercom
quality is excellent however.
The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
=09
The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
This is nice to have for feeding the audio
output from my AOA, engine
monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
the attractions of this radio is the built-in
intercom and no need for an
audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
would like to see addressed.
Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
as
well an
d they claim that future upgrades will
address this, but it will
require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
really don't want to send it back to Oz
for an upgrade.
Overall I do like the radio, however these
few issues prevent me from
wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
=09
Todd Bartrim
=09
RV9Endurance
13B Turbo Rotary
C-FSTB
http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
=09
"The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
work and determination to the things they
do."
=09
=09
nd Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!)
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
-------- Message d'origine--------
De: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com
de la part de lucky
Date: mer. 08/12/2004 14:35
=C0: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Cc:
Objet: RE: RV-List: XCOM 760 radio pictures
=09
=09
(lucky)
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio input in which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue
to use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areas customer & technical as I think the basic super light and small, dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
Bartrim"
>
> Hi Lucky;
> I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
> and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
> First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
> sound
> very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
> frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
> clips the signal. The radio & intercom
quality is excellent however.
> The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
> dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
> this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
> The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
> when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
> and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
> This is nice to have for feeding the
audio output from my AOA, engine
> monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
> the attractions of this radio is the
built-in intercom and no need for an
> audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
> works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
> while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
> they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
> would like to see addressed.
> Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
> as
> well and they claim that future upgrades
will address this, but it will
> require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
> don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
> problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
> really don't want to send it back to
Oz for an upgrade.
> Overall I do like the radio, however
these few issues prevent me from
> wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
>
> Todd Bartrim
>
> RV9Endurance
> 13B Turbo Rotary
> C-FSTB
> http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
>
> "The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
> work and determination to the things
they do."
>
>
>
>
>
>
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio inputin which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue to
use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areascustomer technical as I think the basic super light and small,dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
-- RV-List message posted by: "Todd Bartrim"
=09
Hi Lucky;
I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
sound
very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
clips the signal. The radio intercom
quality is excellent however.
The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
=09
The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
This is nice to have for feeding the audio
output from my AOA, engine
monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
the attractions of this radio is the built-in
intercom and no need for an
audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
would like to see addressed.
Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
as
well an
d they claim that future upgrades will
address this, but it will
require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
really don't want to send it back to Oz
for an upgrade.
Overall I do like the radio, however these
few issues prevent me from
wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
=09
Todd Bartrim
=09
RV9Endurance
13B Turbo Rotary
C-FSTB
http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
=09
"The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
work and determination to the things they
do."
=09
=09
nd Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!)
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
-------- Message d'origine--------
De: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com
de la part de lucky
Date: mer. 08/12/2004 14:35
=C0: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Cc:
Objet: RE: RV-List: XCOM 760 radio pictures
=09
=09
(lucky)
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio input in which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue
to use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areas customer & technical as I think the basic super light and small, dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
Bartrim"
>
> Hi Lucky;
> I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
> and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
> First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
> sound
> very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
> frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
> clips the signal. The radio & intercom
quality is excellent however.
> The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
> dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
> this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
> The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
> when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
> and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
> This is nice to have for feeding the
audio output from my AOA, engine
> monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
> the attractions of this radio is the
built-in intercom and no need for an
> audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
> works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
> while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
> they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
> would like to see addressed.
> Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
> as
> well and they claim that future upgrades
will address this, but it will
> require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
> don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
> problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
> really don't want to send it back to
Oz for an upgrade.
> Overall I do like the radio, however
these few issues prevent me from
> wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
>
> Todd Bartrim
>
> RV9Endurance
> 13B Turbo Rotary
> C-FSTB
> http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
>
> "The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
> work and determination to the things
they do."
>
>
>
>
>
>
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio inputin which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue to
use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areascustomer technical as I think the basic super light and small,dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
-- RV-List message posted by: "Todd Bartrim"
=09
Hi Lucky;
I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
sound
very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
clips the signal. The radio intercom
quality is excellent however.
The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
=09
The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
This is nice to have for feeding the audio
output from my AOA, engine
monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
the attractions of this radio is the built-in
intercom and no need for an
audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
would like to see addressed.
Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
as
well an
d they claim that future upgrades will
address this, but it will
require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
really don't want to send it back to Oz
for an upgrade.
Overall I do like the radio, however these
few issues prevent me from
wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
=09
Todd Bartrim
=09
RV9Endurance
13B Turbo Rotary
C-FSTB
http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
=09
"The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
work and determination to the things they
do."
=09
=09
nd Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!)
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
-------- Message d'origine--------
De: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com
de la part de lucky
Date: mer. 08/12/2004 14:35
=C0: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Cc:
Objet: RE: RV-List: XCOM 760 radio pictures
=09
=09
(lucky)
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio input in which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue
to use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areas customer & technical as I think the basic super light and small, dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
Bartrim"
>
> Hi Lucky;
> I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
> and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
> First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
> sound
> very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
> frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
> clips the signal. The radio & intercom
quality is excellent however.
> The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
> dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
> this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
> The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
> when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
> and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
> This is nice to have for feeding the
audio output from my AOA, engine
> monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
> the attractions of this radio is the
built-in intercom and no need for an
> audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
> works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
> while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
> they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
> would like to see addressed.
> Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
> as
> well and they claim that future upgrades
will address this, but it will
> require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
> don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
> problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
> really don't want to send it back to
Oz for an upgrade.
> Overall I do like the radio, however
these few issues prevent me from
> wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
>
> Todd Bartrim
>
> RV9Endurance
> 13B Turbo Rotary
> C-FSTB
> http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
>
> "The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
> work and determination to the things
they do."
>
>
>
>
>
>
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio inputin which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue to
use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areascustomer technical as I think the basic super light and small,dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
-- RV-List message posted by: "Todd Bartrim"
=09
Hi Lucky;
I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
sound
very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
clips the signal. The radio intercom
quality is excellent however.
The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
=09
The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
This is nice to have for feeding the audio
output from my AOA, engine
monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
the attractions of this radio is the built-in
intercom and no need for an
audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
would like to see addressed.
Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
as
well an
d they claim that future upgrades will
address this, but it will
require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
really don't want to send it back to Oz
for an upgrade.
Overall I do like the radio, however these
few issues prevent me from
wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
=09
Todd Bartrim
=09
RV9Endurance
13B Turbo Rotary
C-FSTB
http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
=09
"The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
work and determination to the things they
do."
=09
=09
nd Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!)
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
-------- Message d'origine--------
De: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com
de la part de lucky
Date: mer. 08/12/2004 14:35
=C0: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Cc:
Objet: RE: RV-List: XCOM 760 radio pictures
=09
=09
(lucky)
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio input in which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue
to use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areas customer & technical as I think the basic super light and small, dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
Bartrim"
>
> Hi Lucky;
> I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
> and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
> First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
> sound
> very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
> frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
> clips the signal. The radio & intercom
quality is excellent however.
> The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
> dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
> this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
> The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
> when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
> and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
> This is nice to have for feeding the
audio output from my AOA, engine
> monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
> the attractions of this radio is the
built-in intercom and no need for an
> audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
> works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
> while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
> they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
> would like to see addressed.
> Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
> as
> well and they claim that future upgrades
will address this, but it will
> require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
> don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
> problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
> really don't want to send it back to
Oz for an upgrade.
> Overall I do like the radio, however
these few issues prevent me from
> wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
>
> Todd Bartrim
>
> RV9Endurance
> 13B Turbo Rotary
> C-FSTB
> http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
>
> "The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
> work and determination to the things
they do."
>
>
>
>
>
>
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio inputin which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue to
use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areascustomer technical as I think the basic super light and small,dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
-- RV-List message posted by: "Todd Bartrim"
=09
Hi Lucky;
I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
sound
very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
clips the signal. The radio intercom
quality is excellent however.
The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
=09
The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
This is nice to have for feeding the audio
output from my AOA, engine
monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
the attractions of this radio is the built-in
intercom and no need for an
audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
would like to see addressed.
Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
as
well an
d they claim that future upgrades will
address this, but it will
require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
really don't want to send it back to Oz
for an upgrade.
Overall I do like the radio, however these
few issues prevent me from
wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
=09
Todd Bartrim
=09
RV9Endurance
13B Turbo Rotary
C-FSTB
http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
=09
"The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
work and determination to the things they
do."
=09
=09
nd Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!)
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
-------- Message d'origine--------
De: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com
de la part de lucky
Date: mer. 08/12/2004 14:35
=C0: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Cc:
Objet: RE: RV-List: XCOM 760 radio pictures
=09
=09
(lucky)
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio input in which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue
to use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areas customer & technical as I think the basic super light and small, dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
Bartrim"
>
> Hi Lucky;
> I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
> and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
> First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
> sound
> very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
> frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
> clips the signal. The radio & intercom
quality is excellent however.
> The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
> dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
> this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
> The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
> when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
> and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
> This is nice to have for feeding the
audio output from my AOA, engine
> monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
> the attractions of this radio is the
built-in intercom and no need for an
> audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
> works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
> while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
> they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
> would like to see addressed.
> Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
> as
> well and they claim that future upgrades
will address this, but it will
> require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
> don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
> problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
> really don't want to send it back to
Oz for an upgrade.
> Overall I do like the radio, however
these few issues prevent me from
> wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
>
> Todd Bartrim
>
> RV9Endurance
> 13B Turbo Rotary
> C-FSTB
> http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
>
> "The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
> work and determination to the things
they do."
>
>
>
>
>
>
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio inputin which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue to
use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areascustomer technical as I think the basic super light and small,dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
-- RV-List message posted by: "Todd Bartrim"
=09
Hi Lucky;
I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
sound
very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
clips the signal. The radio intercom
quality is excellent however.
The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
=09
The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
This is nice to have for feeding the audio
output from my AOA, engine
monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
the attractions of this radio is the built-in
intercom and no need for an
audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
would like to see addressed.
Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
as
well an
d they claim that future upgrades will
address this, but it will
require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
really don't want to send it back to Oz
for an upgrade.
Overall I do like the radio, however these
few issues prevent me from
wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
=09
Todd Bartrim
=09
RV9Endurance
13B Turbo Rotary
C-FSTB
http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
=09
"The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
work and determination to the things they
do."
=09
=09
nd Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!)
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
-------- Message d'origine--------
De: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com
de la part de lucky
Date: mer. 08/12/2004 14:35
=C0: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Cc:
Objet: RE: RV-List: XCOM 760 radio pictures
=09
=09
(lucky)
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio input in which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue
to use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areas customer & technical as I think the basic super light and small, dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
Bartrim"
>
> Hi Lucky;
> I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
> and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
> First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
> sound
> very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
> frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
> clips the signal. The radio & intercom
quality is excellent however.
> The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
> dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
> this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
> The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
> when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
> and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
> This is nice to have for feeding the
audio output from my AOA, engine
> monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
> the attractions of this radio is the
built-in intercom and no need for an
> audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
> works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
> while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
> they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
> would like to see addressed.
> Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
> as
> well and they claim that future upgrades
will address this, but it will
> require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
> don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
> problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
> really don't want to send it back to
Oz for an upgrade.
> Overall I do like the radio, however
these few issues prevent me from
> wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
>
> Todd Bartrim
>
> RV9Endurance
> 13B Turbo Rotary
> C-FSTB
> http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
>
> "The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
> work and determination to the things
they do."
>
>
>
>
>
>
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio inputin which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue to
use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areascustomer technical as I think the basic super light and small,dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
-- RV-List message posted by: "Todd Bartrim"
=09
Hi Lucky;
I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
sound
very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
clips the signal. The radio intercom
quality is excellent however.
The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
=09
The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
This is nice to have for feeding the audio
output from my AOA, engine
monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
the attractions of this radio is the built-in
intercom and no need for an
audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
would like to see addressed.
Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
as
well an
d they claim that future upgrades will
address this, but it will
require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
really don't want to send it back to Oz
for an upgrade.
Overall I do like the radio, however these
few issues prevent me from
wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
=09
Todd Bartrim
=09
RV9Endurance
13B Turbo Rotary
C-FSTB
http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
=09
"The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
work and determination to the things they
do."
=09
=09
nd Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!)
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
-------- Message d'origine--------
De: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com
de la part de lucky
Date: mer. 08/12/2004 14:35
=C0: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Cc:
Objet: RE: RV-List: XCOM 760 radio pictures
=09
=09
(lucky)
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio input in which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue
to use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areas customer & technical as I think the basic super light and small, dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
Bartrim"
>
> Hi Lucky;
> I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
> and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
> First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
> sound
> very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
> frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
> clips the signal. The radio & intercom
quality is excellent however.
> The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
> dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
> this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
> The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
> when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
> and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
> This is nice to have for feeding the
audio output from my AOA, engine
> monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
> the attractions of this radio is the
built-in intercom and no need for an
> audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
> works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
> while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
> they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
> would like to see addressed.
> Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
> as
> well and they claim that future upgrades
will address this, but it will
> require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
> don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
> problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
> really don't want to send it back to
Oz for an upgrade.
> Overall I do like the radio, however
these few issues prevent me from
> wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
>
> Todd Bartrim
>
> RV9Endurance
> 13B Turbo Rotary
> C-FSTB
> http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
>
> "The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
> work and determination to the things
they do."
>
>
>
>
>
>
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio inputin which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue to
use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areascustomer technical as I think the basic super light and small,dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
-- RV-List message posted by: "Todd Bartrim"
=09
Hi Lucky;
I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
sound
very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
clips the signal. The radio intercom
quality is excellent however.
The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
=09
The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
This is nice to have for feeding the audio
output from my AOA, engine
monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
the attractions of this radio is the built-in
intercom and no need for an
audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
would like to see addressed.
Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
as
well an
d they claim that future upgrades will
address this, but it will
require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
really don't want to send it back to Oz
for an upgrade.
Overall I do like the radio, however these
few issues prevent me from
wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
=09
Todd Bartrim
=09
RV9Endurance
13B Turbo Rotary
C-FSTB
http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
=09
"The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
work and determination to the things they
do."
=09
=09
nd Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!)
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
-------- Message d'origine--------
De: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com
de la part de lucky
Date: mer. 08/12/2004 14:35
=C0: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Cc:
Objet: RE: RV-List: XCOM 760 radio pictures
=09
=09
(lucky)
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio input in which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue
to use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areas customer & technical as I think the basic super light and small, dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
Bartrim"
>
> Hi Lucky;
> I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
> and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
> First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
> sound
> very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
> frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
> clips the signal. The radio & intercom
quality is excellent however.
> The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
> dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
> this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
> The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
> when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
> and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
> This is nice to have for feeding the
audio output from my AOA, engine
> monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
> the attractions of this radio is the
built-in intercom and no need for an
> audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
> works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
> while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
> they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
> would like to see addressed.
> Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
> as
> well and they claim that future upgrades
will address this, but it will
> require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
> don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
> problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
> really don't want to send it back to
Oz for an upgrade.
> Overall I do like the radio, however
these few issues prevent me from
> wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
>
> Todd Bartrim
>
> RV9Endurance
> 13B Turbo Rotary
> C-FSTB
> http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
>
> "The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
> work and determination to the things
they do."
>
>
>
>
>
>
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio inputin which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue to
use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areascustomer technical as I think the basic super light and small,dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
-- RV-List message posted by: "Todd Bartrim"
=09
Hi Lucky;
I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
sound
very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
clips the signal. The radio intercom
quality is excellent however.
The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
=09
The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
This is nice to have for feeding the audio
output from my AOA, engine
monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
the attractions of this radio is the built-in
intercom and no need for an
audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
would like to see addressed.
Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
as
well an
d they claim that future upgrades will
address this, but it will
require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
really don't want to send it back to Oz
for an upgrade.
Overall I do like the radio, however these
few issues prevent me from
wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
=09
Todd Bartrim
=09
RV9Endurance
13B Turbo Rotary
C-FSTB
http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
=09
"The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
work and determination to the things they
do."
=09
=09
nd Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!)
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
-------- Message d'origine--------
De: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com
de la part de lucky
Date: mer. 08/12/2004 14:35
=C0: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Cc:
Objet: RE: RV-List: XCOM 760 radio pictures
=09
=09
(lucky)
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio input in which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue
to use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areas customer & technical as I think the basic super light and small, dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
Bartrim"
>
> Hi Lucky;
> I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
> and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
> First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
> sound
> very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
> frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
> clips the signal. The radio & intercom
quality is excellent however.
> The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
> dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
> this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
> The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
> when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
> and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
> This is nice to have for feeding the
audio output from my AOA, engine
> monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
> the attractions of this radio is the
built-in intercom and no need for an
> audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
> works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
> while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
> they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
> would like to see addressed.
> Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
> as
> well and they claim that future upgrades
will address this, but it will
> require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
> don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
> problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
> really don't want to send it back to
Oz for an upgrade.
> Overall I do like the radio, however
these few issues prevent me from
> wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
>
> Todd Bartrim
>
> RV9Endurance
> 13B Turbo Rotary
> C-FSTB
> http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
>
> "The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
> work and determination to the things
they do."
>
>
>
>
>
>
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio inputin which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue to
use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areascustomer technical as I think the basic super light and small,dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
-- RV-List message posted by: "Todd Bartrim"
=09
Hi Lucky;
I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
sound
very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
clips the signal. The radio intercom
quality is excellent however.
The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
=09
The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
This is nice to have for feeding the audio
output from my AOA, engine
monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
the attractions of this radio is the built-in
intercom and no need for an
audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
would like to see addressed.
Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
as
well an
d they claim that future upgrades will
address this, but it will
require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
really don't want to send it back to Oz
for an upgrade.
Overall I do like the radio, however these
few issues prevent me from
wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
=09
Todd Bartrim
=09
RV9Endurance
13B Turbo Rotary
C-FSTB
http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
=09
"The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
work and determination to the things they
do."
=09
=09
nd Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!)
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
-------- Message d'origine--------
De: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com
de la part de lucky
Date: mer. 08/12/2004 14:35
=C0: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Cc:
Objet: RE: RV-List: XCOM 760 radio pictures
=09
=09
(lucky)
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio input in which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue
to use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areas customer & technical as I think the basic super light and small, dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
Bartrim"
>
> Hi Lucky;
> I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
> and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
> First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
> sound
> very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
> frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
> clips the signal. The radio & intercom
quality is excellent however.
> The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
> dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
> this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
> The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
> when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
> and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
> This is nice to have for feeding the
audio output from my AOA, engine
> monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
> the attractions of this radio is the
built-in intercom and no need for an
> audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
> works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
> while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
> they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
> would like to see addressed.
> Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
> as
> well and they claim that future upgrades
will address this, but it will
> require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
> don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
> problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
> really don't want to send it back to
Oz for an upgrade.
> Overall I do like the radio, however
these few issues prevent me from
> wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
>
> Todd Bartrim
>
> RV9Endurance
> 13B Turbo Rotary
> C-FSTB
> http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
>
> "The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
> work and determination to the things
they do."
>
>
>
>
>
>
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio inputin which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue to
use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areascustomer technical as I think the basic super light and small,dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
-- RV-List message posted by: "Todd Bartrim"
=09
Hi Lucky;
I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
sound
very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
clips the signal. The radio intercom
quality is excellent however.
The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
=09
The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
This is nice to have for feeding the audio
output from my AOA, engine
monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
the attractions of this radio is the built-in
intercom and no need for an
audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
would like to see addressed.
Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
as
well an
d they claim that future upgrades will
address this, but it will
require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
really don't want to send it back to Oz
for an upgrade.
Overall I do like the radio, however these
few issues prevent me from
wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
=09
Todd Bartrim
=09
RV9Endurance
13B Turbo Rotary
C-FSTB
http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
=09
"The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
work and determination to the things they
do."
=09
=09
nd Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!)
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
-------- Message d'origine--------
De: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com
de la part de lucky
Date: mer. 08/12/2004 14:35
=C0: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Cc:
Objet: RE: RV-List: XCOM 760 radio pictures
=09
=09
(lucky)
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio input in which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue
to use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areas customer & technical as I think the basic super light and small, dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
Bartrim"
>
> Hi Lucky;
> I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
> and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
> First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
> sound
> very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
> frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
> clips the signal. The radio & intercom
quality is excellent however.
> The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
> dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
> this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
> The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
> when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
> and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
> This is nice to have for feeding the
audio output from my AOA, engine
> monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
> the attractions of this radio is the
built-in intercom and no need for an
> audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
> works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
> while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
> they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
> would like to see addressed.
> Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
> as
> well and they claim that future upgrades
will address this, but it will
> require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
> don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
> problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
> really don't want to send it back to
Oz for an upgrade.
> Overall I do like the radio, however
these few issues prevent me from
> wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
>
> Todd Bartrim
>
> RV9Endurance
> 13B Turbo Rotary
> C-FSTB
> http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
>
> "The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
> work and determination to the things
they do."
>
>
>
>
>
>
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio inputin which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue to
use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areascustomer technical as I think the basic super light and small,dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
-- RV-List message posted by: "Todd Bartrim"
=09
Hi Lucky;
I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
sound
very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
clips the signal. The radio intercom
quality is excellent however.
The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
=09
The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
This is nice to have for feeding the audio
output from my AOA, engine
monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
the attractions of this radio is the built-in
intercom and no need for an
audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
would like to see addressed.
Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
as
well an
d they claim that future upgrades will
address this, but it will
require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
really don't want to send it back to Oz
for an upgrade.
Overall I do like the radio, however these
few issues prevent me from
wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
=09
Todd Bartrim
=09
RV9Endurance
13B Turbo Rotary
C-FSTB
http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
=09
"The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
work and determination to the things they
do."
=09
=09
nd Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!)
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
-------- Message d'origine--------
De: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com
de la part de lucky
Date: mer. 08/12/2004 14:35
=C0: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Cc:
Objet: RE: RV-List: XCOM 760 radio pictures
=09
=09
(lucky)
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio input in which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue
to use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areas customer & technical as I think the basic super light and small, dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
Bartrim"
>
> Hi Lucky;
> I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
> and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
> First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
> sound
> very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
> frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
> clips the signal. The radio & intercom
quality is excellent however.
> The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
> dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
> this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
> The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
> when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
> and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
> This is nice to have for feeding the
audio output from my AOA, engine
> monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
> the attractions of this radio is the
built-in intercom and no need for an
> audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
> works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
> while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
> they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
> would like to see addressed.
> Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
> as
> well and they claim that future upgrades
will address this, but it will
> require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
> don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
> problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
> really don't want to send it back to
Oz for an upgrade.
> Overall I do like the radio, however
these few issues prevent me from
> wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
>
> Todd Bartrim
>
> RV9Endurance
> 13B Turbo Rotary
> C-FSTB
> http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
>
> "The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
> work and determination to the things
they do."
>
>
>
>
>
>
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio inputin which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue to
use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areascustomer technical as I think the basic super light and small,dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
-- RV-List message posted by: "Todd Bartrim"
=09
Hi Lucky;
I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
sound
very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
clips the signal. The radio intercom
quality is excellent however.
The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
=09
The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
This is nice to have for feeding the audio
output from my AOA, engine
monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
the attractions of this radio is the built-in
intercom and no need for an
audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
would like to see addressed.
Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
as
well an
d they claim that future upgrades will
address this, but it will
require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
really don't want to send it back to Oz
for an upgrade.
Overall I do like the radio, however these
few issues prevent me from
wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
=09
Todd Bartrim
=09
RV9Endurance
13B Turbo Rotary
C-FSTB
http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
=09
"The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
work and determination to the things they
do."
=09
=09
nd Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!)
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
-------- Message d'origine--------
De: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com
de la part de lucky
Date: mer. 08/12/2004 14:35
=C0: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Cc:
Objet: RE: RV-List: XCOM 760 radio pictures
=09
=09
(lucky)
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio input in which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue
to use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areas customer & technical as I think the basic super light and small, dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
Bartrim"
>
> Hi Lucky;
> I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
> and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
> First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
> sound
> very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
> frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
> clips the signal. The radio & intercom
quality is excellent however.
> The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
> dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
> this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
> The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
> when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
> and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
> This is nice to have for feeding the
audio output from my AOA, engine
> monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
> the attractions of this radio is the
built-in intercom and no need for an
> audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
> works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
> while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
> they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
> would like to see addressed.
> Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
> as
> well and they claim that future upgrades
will address this, but it will
> require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
> don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
> problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
> really don't want to send it back to
Oz for an upgrade.
> Overall I do like the radio, however
these few issues prevent me from
> wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
>
> Todd Bartrim
>
> RV9Endurance
> 13B Turbo Rotary
> C-FSTB
> http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
>
> "The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
> work and determination to the things
they do."
>
>
>
>
>
>
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio inputin which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue to
use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areascustomer technical as I think the basic super light and small,dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
-- RV-List message posted by: "Todd Bartrim"
=09
Hi Lucky;
I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
sound
very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
clips the signal. The radio intercom
quality is excellent however.
The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
=09
The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
This is nice to have for feeding the audio
output from my AOA, engine
monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
the attractions of this radio is the built-in
intercom and no need for an
audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
would like to see addressed.
Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
as
well an
d they claim that future upgrades will
address this, but it will
require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
really don't want to send it back to Oz
for an upgrade.
Overall I do like the radio, however these
few issues prevent me from
wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
=09
Todd Bartrim
=09
RV9Endurance
13B Turbo Rotary
C-FSTB
http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
=09
"The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
work and determination to the things they
do."
=09
=09
nd Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!)
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
-------- Message d'origine--------
De: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com
de la part de lucky
Date: mer. 08/12/2004 14:35
=C0: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Cc:
Objet: RE: RV-List: XCOM 760 radio pictures
=09
=09
(lucky)
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio input in which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue
to use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areas customer & technical as I think the basic super light and small, dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
Bartrim"
>
> Hi Lucky;
> I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
> and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
> First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
> sound
> very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
> frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
> clips the signal. The radio & intercom
quality is excellent however.
> The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
> dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
> this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
> The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
> when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
> and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
> This is nice to have for feeding the
audio output from my AOA, engine
> monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
> the attractions of this radio is the
built-in intercom and no need for an
> audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
> works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
> while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
> they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
> would like to see addressed.
> Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
> as
> well and they claim that future upgrades
will address this, but it will
> require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
> don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
> problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
> really don't want to send it back to
Oz for an upgrade.
> Overall I do like the radio, however
these few issues prevent me from
> wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
>
> Todd Bartrim
>
> RV9Endurance
> 13B Turbo Rotary
> C-FSTB
> http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
>
> "The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
> work and determination to the things
they do."
>
>
>
>
>
>
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio inputin which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue to
use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areascustomer technical as I think the basic super light and small,dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
-- RV-List message posted by: "Todd Bartrim"
=09
Hi Lucky;
I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
sound
very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
clips the signal. The radio intercom
quality is excellent however.
The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
=09
The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
This is nice to have for feeding the audio
output from my AOA, engine
monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
the attractions of this radio is the built-in
intercom and no need for an
audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
would like to see addressed.
Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
as
well an
d they claim that future upgrades will
address this, but it will
require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
really don't want to send it back to Oz
for an upgrade.
Overall I do like the radio, however these
few issues prevent me from
wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
=09
Todd Bartrim
=09
RV9Endurance
13B Turbo Rotary
C-FSTB
http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
=09
"The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
work and determination to the things they
do."
=09
=09
nd Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!)
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
-------- Message d'origine--------
De: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com
de la part de lucky
Date: mer. 08/12/2004 14:35
=C0: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Cc:
Objet: RE: RV-List: XCOM 760 radio pictures
=09
=09
(lucky)
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio input in which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue
to use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areas customer & technical as I think the basic super light and small, dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
Bartrim"
>
> Hi Lucky;
> I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
> and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
> First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
> sound
> very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
> frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
> clips the signal. The radio & intercom
quality is excellent however.
> The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
> dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
> this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
> The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
> when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
> and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
> This is nice to have for feeding the
audio output from my AOA, engine
> monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
> the attractions of this radio is the
built-in intercom and no need for an
> audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
> works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
> while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
> they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
> would like to see addressed.
> Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
> as
> well and they claim that future upgrades
will address this, but it will
> require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
> don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
> problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
> really don't want to send it back to
Oz for an upgrade.
> Overall I do like the radio, however
these few issues prevent me from
> wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
>
> Todd Bartrim
>
> RV9Endurance
> 13B Turbo Rotary
> C-FSTB
> http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
>
> "The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
> work and determination to the things
they do."
>
>
>
>
>
>
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio inputin which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue to
use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areascustomer technical as I think the basic super light and small,dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
-- RV-List message posted by: "Todd Bartrim"
=09
Hi Lucky;
I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
sound
very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
clips the signal. The radio intercom
quality is excellent however.
The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
=09
The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
This is nice to have for feeding the audio
output from my AOA, engine
monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
the attractions of this radio is the built-in
intercom and no need for an
audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
would like to see addressed.
Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
as
well an
d they claim that future upgrades will
address this, but it will
require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
really don't want to send it back to Oz
for an upgrade.
Overall I do like the radio, however these
few issues prevent me from
wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
=09
Todd Bartrim
=09
RV9Endurance
13B Turbo Rotary
C-FSTB
http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
=09
"The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
work and determination to the things they
do."
=09
=09
nd Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!)
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
-------- Message d'origine--------
De: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com
de la part de lucky
Date: mer. 08/12/2004 14:35
=C0: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Cc:
Objet: RE: RV-List: XCOM 760 radio pictures
=09
=09
(lucky)
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio input in which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue
to use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areas customer & technical as I think the basic super light and small, dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
Bartrim"
>
> Hi Lucky;
> I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
> and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
> First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
> sound
> very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
> frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
> clips the signal. The radio & intercom
quality is excellent however.
> The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
> dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
> this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
> The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
> when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
> and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
> This is nice to have for feeding the
audio output from my AOA, engine
> monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
> the attractions of this radio is the
built-in intercom and no need for an
> audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
> works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
> while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
> they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
> would like to see addressed.
> Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
> as
> well and they claim that future upgrades
will address this, but it will
> require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
> don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
> problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
> really don't want to send it back to
Oz for an upgrade.
> Overall I do like the radio, however
these few issues prevent me from
> wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
>
> Todd Bartrim
>
> RV9Endurance
> 13B Turbo Rotary
> C-FSTB
> http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
>
> "The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
> work and determination to the things
they do."
>
>
>
>
>
>
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio inputin which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue to
use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areascustomer technical as I think the basic super light and small,dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
-- RV-List message posted by: "Todd Bartrim"
=09
Hi Lucky;
I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
sound
very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
clips the signal. The radio intercom
quality is excellent however.
The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
=09
The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
This is nice to have for feeding the audio
output from my AOA, engine
monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
the attractions of this radio is the built-in
intercom and no need for an
audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
would like to see addressed.
Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
as
well an
d they claim that future upgrades will
address this, but it will
require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
really don't want to send it back to Oz
for an upgrade.
Overall I do like the radio, however these
few issues prevent me from
wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
=09
Todd Bartrim
=09
RV9Endurance
13B Turbo Rotary
C-FSTB
http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
=09
"The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
work and determination to the things they
do."
=09
=09
nd Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!)
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
-------- Message d'origine--------
De: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com
de la part de lucky
Date: mer. 08/12/2004 14:35
=C0: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Cc:
Objet: RE: RV-List: XCOM 760 radio pictures
=09
=09
(lucky)
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio input in which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue
to use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areas customer & technical as I think the basic super light and small, dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
Bartrim"
>
> Hi Lucky;
> I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
> and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
> First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
> sound
> very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
> frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
> clips the signal. The radio & intercom
quality is excellent however.
> The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
> dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
> this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
> The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
> when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
> and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
> This is nice to have for feeding the
audio output from my AOA, engine
> monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
> the attractions of this radio is the
built-in intercom and no need for an
> audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
> works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
> while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
> they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
> would like to see addressed.
> Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
> as
> well and they claim that future upgrades
will address this, but it will
> require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
> don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
> problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
> really don't want to send it back to
Oz for an upgrade.
> Overall I do like the radio, however
these few issues prevent me from
> wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
>
> Todd Bartrim
>
> RV9Endurance
> 13B Turbo Rotary
> C-FSTB
> http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
>
> "The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
> work and determination to the things
they do."
>
>
>
>
>
>
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio inputin which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue to
use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areascustomer technical as I think the basic super light and small,dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
-- RV-List message posted by: "Todd Bartrim"
=09
Hi Lucky;
I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
sound
very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
clips the signal. The radio intercom
quality is excellent however.
The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
=09
The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
This is nice to have for feeding the audio
output from my AOA, engine
monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
the attractions of this radio is the built-in
intercom and no need for an
audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
would like to see addressed.
Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
as
well an
d they claim that future upgrades will
address this, but it will
require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
really don't want to send it back to Oz
for an upgrade.
Overall I do like the radio, however these
few issues prevent me from
wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
=09
Todd Bartrim
=09
RV9Endurance
13B Turbo Rotary
C-FSTB
http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
=09
"The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
work and determination to the things they
do."
=09
=09
nd Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!)
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
-------- Message d'origine--------
De: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com
de la part de lucky
Date: mer. 08/12/2004 14:35
=C0: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Cc:
Objet: RE: RV-List: XCOM 760 radio pictures
=09
=09
(lucky)
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio input in which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue
to use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areas customer & technical as I think the basic super light and small, dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
Bartrim"
>
> Hi Lucky;
> I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
> and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
> First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
> sound
> very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
> frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
> clips the signal. The radio & intercom
quality is excellent however.
> The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
> dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
> this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
> The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
> when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
> and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
> This is nice to have for feeding the
audio output from my AOA, engine
> monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
> the attractions of this radio is the
built-in intercom and no need for an
> audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
> works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
> while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
> they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
> would like to see addressed.
> Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
> as
> well and they claim that future upgrades
will address this, but it will
> require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
> don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
> problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
> really don't want to send it back to
Oz for an upgrade.
> Overall I do like the radio, however
these few issues prevent me from
> wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
>
> Todd Bartrim
>
> RV9Endurance
> 13B Turbo Rotary
> C-FSTB
> http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
>
> "The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
> work and determination to the things
they do."
>
>
>
>
>
>
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio inputin which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue to
use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areascustomer technical as I think the basic super light and small,dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
-- RV-List message posted by: "Todd Bartrim"
=09
Hi Lucky;
I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
sound
very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
clips the signal. The radio intercom
quality is excellent however.
The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
=09
The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
This is nice to have for feeding the audio
output from my AOA, engine
monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
the attractions of this radio is the built-in
intercom and no need for an
audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
would like to see addressed.
Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
as
well an
d they claim that future upgrades will
address this, but it will
require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
really don't want to send it back to Oz
for an upgrade.
Overall I do like the radio, however these
few issues prevent me from
wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
=09
Todd Bartrim
=09
RV9Endurance
13B Turbo Rotary
C-FSTB
http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
=09
"The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
work and determination to the things they
do."
=09
=09
nd Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!)
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
-------- Message d'origine--------
De: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com
de la part de lucky
Date: mer. 08/12/2004 14:35
=C0: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Cc:
Objet: RE: RV-List: XCOM 760 radio pictures
=09
=09
(lucky)
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio input in which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue
to use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areas customer & technical as I think the basic super light and small, dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
Bartrim"
>
> Hi Lucky;
> I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
> and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
> First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
> sound
> very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
> frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
> clips the signal. The radio & intercom
quality is excellent however.
> The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
> dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
> this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
> The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
> when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
> and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
> This is nice to have for feeding the
audio output from my AOA, engine
> monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
> the attractions of this radio is the
built-in intercom and no need for an
> audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
> works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
> while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
> they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
> would like to see addressed.
> Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
> as
> well and they claim that future upgrades
will address this, but it will
> require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
> don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
> problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
> really don't want to send it back to
Oz for an upgrade.
> Overall I do like the radio, however
these few issues prevent me from
> wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
>
> Todd Bartrim
>
> RV9Endurance
> 13B Turbo Rotary
> C-FSTB
> http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
>
> "The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
> work and determination to the things
they do."
>
>
>
>
>
>
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio inputin which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue to
use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areascustomer technical as I think the basic super light and small,dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
-- RV-List message posted by: "Todd Bartrim"
=09
Hi Lucky;
I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
sound
very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
clips the signal. The radio intercom
quality is excellent however.
The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
=09
The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
This is nice to have for feeding the audio
output from my AOA, engine
monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
the attractions of this radio is the built-in
intercom and no need for an
audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
would like to see addressed.
Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
as
well an
d they claim that future upgrades will
address this, but it will
require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
really don't want to send it back to Oz
for an upgrade.
Overall I do like the radio, however these
few issues prevent me from
wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
=09
Todd Bartrim
=09
RV9Endurance
13B Turbo Rotary
C-FSTB
http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
=09
"The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
work and determination to the things they
do."
=09
=09
nd Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!)
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
-------- Message d'origine--------
De: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com
de la part de lucky
Date: mer. 08/12/2004 14:35
=C0: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Cc:
Objet: RE: RV-List: XCOM 760 radio pictures
=09
=09
(lucky)
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio input in which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue
to use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areas customer & technical as I think the basic super light and small, dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
Bartrim"
>
> Hi Lucky;
> I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
> and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
> First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
> sound
> very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
> frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
> clips the signal. The radio & intercom
quality is excellent however.
> The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
> dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
> this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
> The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
> when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
> and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
> This is nice to have for feeding the
audio output from my AOA, engine
> monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
> the attractions of this radio is the
built-in intercom and no need for an
> audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
> works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
> while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
> they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
> would like to see addressed.
> Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
> as
> well and they claim that future upgrades
will address this, but it will
> require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
> don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
> problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
> really don't want to send it back to
Oz for an upgrade.
> Overall I do like the radio, however
these few issues prevent me from
> wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
>
> Todd Bartrim
>
> RV9Endurance
> 13B Turbo Rotary
> C-FSTB
> http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
>
> "The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
> work and determination to the things
they do."
>
>
>
>
>
>
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio inputin which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue to
use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areascustomer technical as I think the basic super light and small,dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
-- RV-List message posted by: "Todd Bartrim"
=09
Hi Lucky;
I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
sound
very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
clips the signal. The radio intercom
quality is excellent however.
The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
=09
The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
This is nice to have for feeding the audio
output from my AOA, engine
monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
the attractions of this radio is the built-in
intercom and no need for an
audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
would like to see addressed.
Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
as
well an
d they claim that future upgrades will
address this, but it will
require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
really don't want to send it back to Oz
for an upgrade.
Overall I do like the radio, however these
few issues prevent me from
wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
=09
Todd Bartrim
=09
RV9Endurance
13B Turbo Rotary
C-FSTB
http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
=09
"The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
work and determination to the things they
do."
=09
=09
nd Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!)
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
-------- Message d'origine--------
De: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com
de la part de lucky
Date: mer. 08/12/2004 14:35
=C0: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Cc:
Objet: RE: RV-List: XCOM 760 radio pictures
=09
=09
(lucky)
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio input in which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue
to use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areas customer & technical as I think the basic super light and small, dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
Bartrim"
>
> Hi Lucky;
> I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
> and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
> First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
> sound
> very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
> frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
> clips the signal. The radio & intercom
quality is excellent however.
> The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
> dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
> this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
> The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
> when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
> and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
> This is nice to have for feeding the
audio output from my AOA, engine
> monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
> the attractions of this radio is the
built-in intercom and no need for an
> audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
> works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
> while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
> they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
> would like to see addressed.
> Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
> as
> well and they claim that future upgrades
will address this, but it will
> require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
> don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
> problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
> really don't want to send it back to
Oz for an upgrade.
> Overall I do like the radio, however
these few issues prevent me from
> wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
>
> Todd Bartrim
>
> RV9Endurance
> 13B Turbo Rotary
> C-FSTB
> http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
>
> "The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
> work and determination to the things
they do."
>
>
>
>
>
>
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio inputin which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue to
use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areascustomer technical as I think the basic super light and small,dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
-- RV-List message posted by: "Todd Bartrim"
=09
Hi Lucky;
I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
sound
very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
clips the signal. The radio intercom
quality is excellent however.
The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
=09
The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
This is nice to have for feeding the audio
output from my AOA, engine
monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
the attractions of this radio is the built-in
intercom and no need for an
audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
would like to see addressed.
Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
as
well an
d they claim that future upgrades will
address this, but it will
require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
really don't want to send it back to Oz
for an upgrade.
Overall I do like the radio, however these
few issues prevent me from
wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
=09
Todd Bartrim
=09
RV9Endurance
13B Turbo Rotary
C-FSTB
http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
=09
"The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
work and determination to the things they
do."
=09
=09
nd Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!)
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
-------- Message d'origine--------
De: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com
de la part de lucky
Date: mer. 08/12/2004 14:35
=C0: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Cc:
Objet: RE: RV-List: XCOM 760 radio pictures
=09
=09
(lucky)
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio input in which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue
to use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areas customer & technical as I think the basic super light and small, dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
Bartrim"
>
> Hi Lucky;
> I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
> and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
> First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
> sound
> very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
> frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
> clips the signal. The radio & intercom
quality is excellent however.
> The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
> dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
> this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
> The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
> when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
> and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
> This is nice to have for feeding the
audio output from my AOA, engine
> monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
> the attractions of this radio is the
built-in intercom and no need for an
> audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
> works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
> while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
> they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
> would like to see addressed.
> Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
> as
> well and they claim that future upgrades
will address this, but it will
> require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
> don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
> problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
> really don't want to send it back to
Oz for an upgrade.
> Overall I do like the radio, however
these few issues prevent me from
> wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
>
> Todd Bartrim
>
> RV9Endurance
> 13B Turbo Rotary
> C-FSTB
> http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
>
> "The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
> work and determination to the things
they do."
>
>
>
>
>
>
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio inputin which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue to
use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areascustomer technical as I think the basic super light and small,dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
-- RV-List message posted by: "Todd Bartrim"
=09
Hi Lucky;
I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
sound
very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
clips the signal. The radio intercom
quality is excellent however.
The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
=09
The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
This is nice to have for feeding the audio
output from my AOA, engine
monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
the attractions of this radio is the built-in
intercom and no need for an
audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
would like to see addressed.
Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
as
well an
d they claim that future upgrades will
address this, but it will
require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
really don't want to send it back to Oz
for an upgrade.
Overall I do like the radio, however these
few issues prevent me from
wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
=09
Todd Bartrim
=09
RV9Endurance
13B Turbo Rotary
C-FSTB
http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
=09
"The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
work and determination to the things they
do."
=09
=09
nd Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!)
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
-------- Message d'origine--------
De: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com
de la part de lucky
Date: mer. 08/12/2004 14:35
=C0: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Cc:
Objet: RE: RV-List: XCOM 760 radio pictures
=09
=09
(lucky)
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio input in which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue
to use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areas customer & technical as I think the basic super light and small, dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
Bartrim"
>
> Hi Lucky;
> I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
> and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
> First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
> sound
> very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
> frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
> clips the signal. The radio & intercom
quality is excellent however.
> The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
> dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
> this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
> The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
> when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
> and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
> This is nice to have for feeding the
audio output from my AOA, engine
> monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
> the attractions of this radio is the
built-in intercom and no need for an
> audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
> works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
> while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
> they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
> would like to see addressed.
> Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
> as
> well and they claim that future upgrades
will address this, but it will
> require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
> don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
> problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
> really don't want to send it back to
Oz for an upgrade.
> Overall I do like the radio, however
these few issues prevent me from
> wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
>
> Todd Bartrim
>
> RV9Endurance
> 13B Turbo Rotary
> C-FSTB
> http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
>
> "The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
> work and determination to the things
they do."
>
>
>
>
>
>
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio inputin which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue to
use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areascustomer technical as I think the basic super light and small,dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
-- RV-List message posted by: "Todd Bartrim"
=09
Hi Lucky;
I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
sound
very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
clips the signal. The radio intercom
quality is excellent however.
The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
=09
The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
This is nice to have for feeding the audio
output from my AOA, engine
monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
the attractions of this radio is the built-in
intercom and no need for an
audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
would like to see addressed.
Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
as
well an
d they claim that future upgrades will
address this, but it will
require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
really don't want to send it back to Oz
for an upgrade.
Overall I do like the radio, however these
few issues prevent me from
wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
=09
Todd Bartrim
=09
RV9Endurance
13B Turbo Rotary
C-FSTB
http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
=09
"The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
work and determination to the things they
do."
=09
=09
nd Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!)
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
-------- Message d'origine--------
De: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com
de la part de lucky
Date: mer. 08/12/2004 14:35
=C0: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Cc:
Objet: RE: RV-List: XCOM 760 radio pictures
=09
=09
(lucky)
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio input in which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue
to use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areas customer & technical as I think the basic super light and small, dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
Bartrim"
>
> Hi Lucky;
> I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
> and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
> First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
> sound
> very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
> frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
> clips the signal. The radio & intercom
quality is excellent however.
> The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
> dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
> this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
> The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
> when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
> and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
> This is nice to have for feeding the
audio output from my AOA, engine
> monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
> the attractions of this radio is the
built-in intercom and no need for an
> audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
> works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
> while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
> they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
> would like to see addressed.
> Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
> as
> well and they claim that future upgrades
will address this, but it will
> require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
> don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
> problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
> really don't want to send it back to
Oz for an upgrade.
> Overall I do like the radio, however
these few issues prevent me from
> wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
>
> Todd Bartrim
>
> RV9Endurance
> 13B Turbo Rotary
> C-FSTB
> http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
>
> "The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
> work and determination to the things
they do."
>
>
>
>
>
>
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio inputin which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue to
use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areascustomer technical as I think the basic super light and small,dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
-- RV-List message posted by: "Todd Bartrim"
=09
Hi Lucky;
I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
sound
very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
clips the signal. The radio intercom
quality is excellent however.
The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
=09
The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
This is nice to have for feeding the audio
output from my AOA, engine
monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
the attractions of this radio is the built-in
intercom and no need for an
audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
would like to see addressed.
Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
as
well an
d they claim that future upgrades will
address this, but it will
require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
really don't want to send it back to Oz
for an upgrade.
Overall I do like the radio, however these
few issues prevent me from
wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
=09
Todd Bartrim
=09
RV9Endurance
13B Turbo Rotary
C-FSTB
http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
=09
"The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
work and determination to the things they
do."
=09
=09
nd Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!)
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
-------- Message d'origine--------
De: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com
de la part de lucky
Date: mer. 08/12/2004 14:35
=C0: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Cc:
Objet: RE: RV-List: XCOM 760 radio pictures
=09
=09
(lucky)
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio input in which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue
to use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areas customer & technical as I think the basic super light and small, dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
Bartrim"
>
> Hi Lucky;
> I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
> and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
> First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
> sound
> very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
> frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
> clips the signal. The radio & intercom
quality is excellent however.
> The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
> dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
> this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
> The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
> when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
> and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
> This is nice to have for feeding the
audio output from my AOA, engine
> monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
> the attractions of this radio is the
built-in intercom and no need for an
> audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
> works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
> while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
> they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
> would like to see addressed.
> Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
> as
> well and they claim that future upgrades
will address this, but it will
> require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
> don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
> problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
> really don't want to send it back to
Oz for an upgrade.
> Overall I do like the radio, however
these few issues prevent me from
> wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
>
> Todd Bartrim
>
> RV9Endurance
> 13B Turbo Rotary
> C-FSTB
> http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
>
> "The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
> work and determination to the things
they do."
>
>
>
>
>
>
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio inputin which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue to
use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areascustomer technical as I think the basic super light and small,dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
-- RV-List message posted by: "Todd Bartrim"
=09
Hi Lucky;
I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
sound
very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
clips the signal. The radio intercom
quality is excellent however.
The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
=09
The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
This is nice to have for feeding the audio
output from my AOA, engine
monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
the attractions of this radio is the built-in
intercom and no need for an
audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
would like to see addressed.
Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
as
well an
d they claim that future upgrades will
address this, but it will
require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
really don't want to send it back to Oz
for an upgrade.
Overall I do like the radio, however these
few issues prevent me from
wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
=09
Todd Bartrim
=09
RV9Endurance
13B Turbo Rotary
C-FSTB
http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
=09
"The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
work and determination to the things they
do."
=09
=09
nd Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!)
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
-------- Message d'origine--------
De: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com
de la part de lucky
Date: mer. 08/12/2004 14:35
=C0: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Cc:
Objet: RE: RV-List: XCOM 760 radio pictures
=09
=09
(lucky)
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio input in which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue
to use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areas customer & technical as I think the basic super light and small, dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
Bartrim"
>
> Hi Lucky;
> I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
> and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
> First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
> sound
> very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
> frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
> clips the signal. The radio & intercom
quality is excellent however.
> The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
> dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
> this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
> The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
> when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
> and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
> This is nice to have for feeding the
audio output from my AOA, engine
> monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
> the attractions of this radio is the
built-in intercom and no need for an
> audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
> works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
> while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
> they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
> would like to see addressed.
> Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
> as
> well and they claim that future upgrades
will address this, but it will
> require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
> don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
> problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
> really don't want to send it back to
Oz for an upgrade.
> Overall I do like the radio, however
these few issues prevent me from
> wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
>
> Todd Bartrim
>
> RV9Endurance
> 13B Turbo Rotary
> C-FSTB
> http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
>
> "The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
> work and determination to the things
they do."
>
>
>
>
>
>
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio inputin which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue to
use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areascustomer technical as I think the basic super light and small,dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
-- RV-List message posted by: "Todd Bartrim"
=09
Hi Lucky;
I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
sound
very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
clips the signal. The radio intercom
quality is excellent however.
The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
=09
The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
This is nice to have for feeding the audio
output from my AOA, engine
monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
the attractions of this radio is the built-in
intercom and no need for an
audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
would like to see addressed.
Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
as
well an
d they claim that future upgrades will
address this, but it will
require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
really don't want to send it back to Oz
for an upgrade.
Overall I do like the radio, however these
few issues prevent me from
wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
=09
Todd Bartrim
=09
RV9Endurance
13B Turbo Rotary
C-FSTB
http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
=09
"The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
work and determination to the things they
do."
=09
=09
nd Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!)
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
-------- Message d'origine--------
De: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com
de la part de lucky
Date: mer. 08/12/2004 14:35
=C0: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Cc:
Objet: RE: RV-List: XCOM 760 radio pictures
=09
=09
(lucky)
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio input in which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue
to use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areas customer & technical as I think the basic super light and small, dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
Bartrim"
>
> Hi Lucky;
> I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
> and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
> First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
> sound
> very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
> frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
> clips the signal. The radio & intercom
quality is excellent however.
> The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
> dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
> this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
> The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
> when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
> and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
> This is nice to have for feeding the
audio output from my AOA, engine
> monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
> the attractions of this radio is the
built-in intercom and no need for an
> audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
> works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
> while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
> they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
> would like to see addressed.
> Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
> as
> well and they claim that future upgrades
will address this, but it will
> require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
> don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
> problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
> really don't want to send it back to
Oz for an upgrade.
> Overall I do like the radio, however
these few issues prevent me from
> wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
>
> Todd Bartrim
>
> RV9Endurance
> 13B Turbo Rotary
> C-FSTB
> http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
>
> "The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
> work and determination to the things
they do."
>
>
>
>
>
>
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio inputin which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue to
use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areascustomer technical as I think the basic super light and small,dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
-- RV-List message posted by: "Todd Bartrim"
=09
Hi Lucky;
I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
sound
very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
clips the signal. The radio intercom
quality is excellent however.
The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
=09
The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
This is nice to have for feeding the audio
output from my AOA, engine
monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
the attractions of this radio is the built-in
intercom and no need for an
audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
would like to see addressed.
Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
as
well an
d they claim that future upgrades will
address this, but it will
require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
really don't want to send it back to Oz
for an upgrade.
Overall I do like the radio, however these
few issues prevent me from
wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
=09
Todd Bartrim
=09
RV9Endurance
13B Turbo Rotary
C-FSTB
http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
=09
"The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
work and determination to the things they
do."
=09
=09
nd Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!)
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
-------- Message d'origine--------
De: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com
de la part de lucky
Date: mer. 08/12/2004 14:35
=C0: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Cc:
Objet: RE: RV-List: XCOM 760 radio pictures
=09
=09
(lucky)
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio input in which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue
to use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areas customer & technical as I think the basic super light and small, dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
Bartrim"
>
> Hi Lucky;
> I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
> and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
> First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
> sound
> very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
> frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
> clips the signal. The radio & intercom
quality is excellent however.
> The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
> dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
> this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
> The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
> when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
> and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
> This is nice to have for feeding the
audio output from my AOA, engine
> monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
> the attractions of this radio is the
built-in intercom and no need for an
> audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
> works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
> while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
> they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
> would like to see addressed.
> Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
> as
> well and they claim that future upgrades
will address this, but it will
> require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
> don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
> problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
> really don't want to send it back to
Oz for an upgrade.
> Overall I do like the radio, however
these few issues prevent me from
> wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
>
> Todd Bartrim
>
> RV9Endurance
> 13B Turbo Rotary
> C-FSTB
> http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
>
> "The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
> work and determination to the things
they do."
>
>
>
>
>
>
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio inputin which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue to
use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areascustomer technical as I think the basic super light and small,dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
-- RV-List message posted by: "Todd Bartrim"
=09
Hi Lucky;
I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
sound
very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
clips the signal. The radio intercom
quality is excellent however.
The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
=09
The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
This is nice to have for feeding the audio
output from my AOA, engine
monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
the attractions of this radio is the built-in
intercom and no need for an
audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
would like to see addressed.
Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
as
well an
d they claim that future upgrades will
address this, but it will
require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
really don't want to send it back to Oz
for an upgrade.
Overall I do like the radio, however these
few issues prevent me from
wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
=09
Todd Bartrim
=09
RV9Endurance
13B Turbo Rotary
C-FSTB
http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
=09
"The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
work and determination to the things they
do."
=09
=09
nd Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!)
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
-------- Message d'origine--------
De: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com
de la part de lucky
Date: mer. 08/12/2004 14:35
=C0: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Cc:
Objet: RE: RV-List: XCOM 760 radio pictures
=09
=09
(lucky)
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio input in which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue
to use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areas customer & technical as I think the basic super light and small, dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
Bartrim"
>
> Hi Lucky;
> I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
> and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
> First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
> sound
> very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
> frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
> clips the signal. The radio & intercom
quality is excellent however.
> The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
> dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
> this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
> The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
> when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
> and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
> This is nice to have for feeding the
audio output from my AOA, engine
> monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
> the attractions of this radio is the
built-in intercom and no need for an
> audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
> works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
> while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
> they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
> would like to see addressed.
> Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
> as
> well and they claim that future upgrades
will address this, but it will
> require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
> don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
> problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
> really don't want to send it back to
Oz for an upgrade.
> Overall I do like the radio, however
these few issues prevent me from
> wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
>
> Todd Bartrim
>
> RV9Endurance
> 13B Turbo Rotary
> C-FSTB
> http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
>
> "The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
> work and determination to the things
they do."
>
>
>
>
>
>
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio inputin which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue to
use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areascustomer technical as I think the basic super light and small,dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
-- RV-List message posted by: "Todd Bartrim"
=09
Hi Lucky;
I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
sound
very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
clips the signal. The radio intercom
quality is excellent however.
The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
=09
The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
This is nice to have for feeding the audio
output from my AOA, engine
monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
the attractions of this radio is the built-in
intercom and no need for an
audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
would like to see addressed.
Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
as
well an
d they claim that future upgrades will
address this, but it will
require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
really don't want to send it back to Oz
for an upgrade.
Overall I do like the radio, however these
few issues prevent me from
wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
=09
Todd Bartrim
=09
RV9Endurance
13B Turbo Rotary
C-FSTB
http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
=09
"The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
work and determination to the things they
do."
=09
=09
nd Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!)
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
-------- Message d'origine--------
De: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com
de la part de lucky
Date: mer. 08/12/2004 14:35
=C0: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Cc:
Objet: RE: RV-List: XCOM 760 radio pictures
=09
=09
(lucky)
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio input in which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue
to use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areas customer & technical as I think the basic super light and small, dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
Bartrim"
>
> Hi Lucky;
> I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
> and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
> First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
> sound
> very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
> frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
> clips the signal. The radio & intercom
quality is excellent however.
> The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
> dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
> this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
> The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
> when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
> and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
> This is nice to have for feeding the
audio output from my AOA, engine
> monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
> the attractions of this radio is the
built-in intercom and no need for an
> audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
> works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
> while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
> they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
> would like to see addressed.
> Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
> as
> well and they claim that future upgrades
will address this, but it will
> require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
> don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
> problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
> really don't want to send it back to
Oz for an upgrade.
> Overall I do like the radio, however
these few issues prevent me from
> wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
>
> Todd Bartrim
>
> RV9Endurance
> 13B Turbo Rotary
> C-FSTB
> http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
>
> "The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
> work and determination to the things
they do."
>
>
>
>
>
>
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio inputin which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue to
use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areascustomer technical as I think the basic super light and small,dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
-- RV-List message posted by: "Todd Bartrim"
=09
Hi Lucky;
I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
sound
very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
clips the signal. The radio intercom
quality is excellent however.
The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
=09
The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
This is nice to have for feeding the audio
output from my AOA, engine
monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
the attractions of this radio is the built-in
intercom and no need for an
audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
would like to see addressed.
Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
as
well an
d they claim that future upgrades will
address this, but it will
require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
really don't want to send it back to Oz
for an upgrade.
Overall I do like the radio, however these
few issues prevent me from
wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
=09
Todd Bartrim
=09
RV9Endurance
13B Turbo Rotary
C-FSTB
http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
=09
"The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
work and determination to the things they
do."
=09
=09
nd Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!)
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
-------- Message d'origine--------
De: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com
de la part de lucky
Date: mer. 08/12/2004 14:35
=C0: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Cc:
Objet: RE: RV-List: XCOM 760 radio pictures
=09
=09
(lucky)
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio input in which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue
to use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areas customer & technical as I think the basic super light and small, dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
Bartrim"
>
> Hi Lucky;
> I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
> and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
> First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
> sound
> very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
> frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
> clips the signal. The radio & intercom
quality is excellent however.
> The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
> dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
> this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
> The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
> when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
> and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
> This is nice to have for feeding the
audio output from my AOA, engine
> monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
> the attractions of this radio is the
built-in intercom and no need for an
> audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
> works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
> while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
> they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
> would like to see addressed.
> Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
> as
> well and they claim that future upgrades
will address this, but it will
> require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
> don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
> problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
> really don't want to send it back to
Oz for an upgrade.
> Overall I do like the radio, however
these few issues prevent me from
> wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
>
> Todd Bartrim
>
> RV9Endurance
> 13B Turbo Rotary
> C-FSTB
> http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
>
> "The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
> work and determination to the things
they do."
>
>
>
>
>
>
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio inputin which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue to
use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areascustomer technical as I think the basic super light and small,dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
-- RV-List message posted by: "Todd Bartrim"
=09
Hi Lucky;
I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
sound
very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
clips the signal. The radio intercom
quality is excellent however.
The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
=09
The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
This is nice to have for feeding the audio
output from my AOA, engine
monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
the attractions of this radio is the built-in
intercom and no need for an
audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
would like to see addressed.
Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
as
well an
d they claim that future upgrades will
address this, but it will
require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
really don't want to send it back to Oz
for an upgrade.
Overall I do like the radio, however these
few issues prevent me from
wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
=09
Todd Bartrim
=09
RV9Endurance
13B Turbo Rotary
C-FSTB
http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
=09
"The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
work and determination to the things they
do."
=09
=09
nd Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!)
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
-------- Message d'origine--------
De: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com
de la part de lucky
Date: mer. 08/12/2004 14:35
=C0: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Cc:
Objet: RE: RV-List: XCOM 760 radio pictures
=09
=09
(lucky)
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio input in which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue
to use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areas customer & technical as I think the basic super light and small, dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
Bartrim"
>
> Hi Lucky;
> I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
> and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
> First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
> sound
> very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
> frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
> clips the signal. The radio & intercom
quality is excellent however.
> The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
> dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
> this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
> The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
> when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
> and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
> This is nice to have for feeding the
audio output from my AOA, engine
> monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
> the attractions of this radio is the
built-in intercom and no need for an
> audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
> works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
> while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
> they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
> would like to see addressed.
> Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
> as
> well and they claim that future upgrades
will address this, but it will
> require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
> don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
> problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
> really don't want to send it back to
Oz for an upgrade.
> Overall I do like the radio, however
these few issues prevent me from
> wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
>
> Todd Bartrim
>
> RV9Endurance
> 13B Turbo Rotary
> C-FSTB
> http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
>
> "The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
> work and determination to the things
they do."
>
>
>
>
>
>
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio inputin which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue to
use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areascustomer technical as I think the basic super light and small,dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
-- RV-List message posted by: "Todd Bartrim"
=09
Hi Lucky;
I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
sound
very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
clips the signal. The radio intercom
quality is excellent however.
The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
=09
The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
This is nice to have for feeding the audio
output from my AOA, engine
monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
the attractions of this radio is the built-in
intercom and no need for an
audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
would like to see addressed.
Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
as
well an
d they claim that future upgrades will
address this, but it will
require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
really don't want to send it back to Oz
for an upgrade.
Overall I do like the radio, however these
few issues prevent me from
wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
=09
Todd Bartrim
=09
RV9Endurance
13B Turbo Rotary
C-FSTB
http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
=09
"The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
work and determination to the things they
do."
=09
=09
nd Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!)
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
-------- Message d'origine--------
De: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com
de la part de lucky
Date: mer. 08/12/2004 14:35
=C0: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Cc:
Objet: RE: RV-List: XCOM 760 radio pictures
=09
=09
(lucky)
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio input in which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue
to use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areas customer & technical as I think the basic super light and small, dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
Bartrim"
>
> Hi Lucky;
> I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
> and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
> First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
> sound
> very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
> frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
> clips the signal. The radio & intercom
quality is excellent however.
> The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
> dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
> this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
> The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
> when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
> and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
> This is nice to have for feeding the
audio output from my AOA, engine
> monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
> the attractions of this radio is the
built-in intercom and no need for an
> audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
> works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
> while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
> they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
> would like to see addressed.
> Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
> as
> well and they claim that future upgrades
will address this, but it will
> require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
> don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
> problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
> really don't want to send it back to
Oz for an upgrade.
> Overall I do like the radio, however
these few issues prevent me from
> wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
>
> Todd Bartrim
>
> RV9Endurance
> 13B Turbo Rotary
> C-FSTB
> http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
>
> "The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
> work and determination to the things
they do."
>
>
>
>
>
>
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio inputin which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue to
use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areascustomer technical as I think the basic super light and small,dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
-- RV-List message posted by: "Todd Bartrim"
=09
Hi Lucky;
I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
sound
very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
clips the signal. The radio intercom
quality is excellent however.
The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
=09
The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
This is nice to have for feeding the audio
output from my AOA, engine
monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
the attractions of this radio is the built-in
intercom and no need for an
audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
would like to see addressed.
Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
as
well an
d they claim that future upgrades will
address this, but it will
require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
really don't want to send it back to Oz
for an upgrade.
Overall I do like the radio, however these
few issues prevent me from
wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
=09
Todd Bartrim
=09
RV9Endurance
13B Turbo Rotary
C-FSTB
http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
=09
"The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
work and determination to the things they
do."
=09
=09
nd Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!)
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
-------- Message d'origine--------
De: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com
de la part de lucky
Date: mer. 08/12/2004 14:35
=C0: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Cc:
Objet: RE: RV-List: XCOM 760 radio pictures
=09
=09
(lucky)
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio input in which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue
to use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areas customer & technical as I think the basic super light and small, dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
Bartrim"
>
> Hi Lucky;
> I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
> and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
> First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
> sound
> very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
> frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
> clips the signal. The radio & intercom
quality is excellent however.
> The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
> dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
> this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
> The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
> when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
> and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
> This is nice to have for feeding the
audio output from my AOA, engine
> monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
> the attractions of this radio is the
built-in intercom and no need for an
> audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
> works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
> while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
> they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
> would like to see addressed.
> Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
> as
> well and they claim that future upgrades
will address this, but it will
> require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
> don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
> problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
> really don't want to send it back to
Oz for an upgrade.
> Overall I do like the radio, however
these few issues prevent me from
> wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
>
> Todd Bartrim
>
> RV9Endurance
> 13B Turbo Rotary
> C-FSTB
> http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
>
> "The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
> work and determination to the things
they do."
>
>
>
>
>
>
=09
Interesting. My plan is to wire my GRT
EFIS to the audio input. My headsets have a separate stereo audio inputin which
auto cuts off when a signal comes in from the audio panel. I'll continue to
use that if I feel the need for music.
=09
I hope XCOM continues to improve in all
areascustomer technical as I think the basic super light and small,dual watch
radio w/ integrated VOX is just fine far.
=09
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
-- RV-List message posted by: "Todd Bartrim"
=09
Hi Lucky;
I received my radio awhile ago and am
also impressed with the small size
and overall quality, however I do have
a couple of beefs.
First is the music input; It is not high
quality, it actually doesn't
sound
very good at all. I suspect that it may
be that the amp is optimized for the
frequency of the human voice and when
the music exceeds these frequencies it
clips the signal. The radio intercom
quality is excellent however.
The second beef is they advertise (still)
an extra audio input, but they
dropped this about 2 years ago. I'd expected
this and even e-mailed about
this last year when I didn't see a provision
for it on the wiring diagram.
=09
The answer I got back wasn't very clear,
so I just assumed it would be clear
when I got the "real" instructions with
it. Nada. So I e-mailed them again
and was told they decided 2 years ago
not to have the extra audio input.
This is nice to have for feeding the audio
output from my AOA, engine
monitor, fuel guardian, etc. They suggested
using an audio panel, but one of
the attractions of this radio is the built-in
intercom and no need for an
audio panel. I ran a shielded wire into
the pilot side headset output, which
works well with the advantage that it
won't transmit alarms if they come on
while I'm transmitting, and the pax doesn't
hear them either. Unfortunately
they aren't amplified this way and don't
mute the music. This is something I
would like to see addressed.
Third is that it isn't an alpha-numeric
memory. I complained about this
as
well an
d they claim that future upgrades will
address this, but it will
require changing of the LCD, which they
claim can be done by the user. I
don't have a problem with this, however
I can see it being enough of a
problem for many, so that they will have
enough issues to not do this. I
really don't want to send it back to Oz
for an upgrade.
Overall I do like the radio, however these
few issues prevent me from
wholeheartedly recommending the radio
to others.
=09
Todd Bartrim
=09
RV9Endurance
13B Turbo Rotary
C-FSTB
http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
=09
"The world will always have a place for
those that bring hard
work and determination to the things they
do."
=09
=09
nd Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!)
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
=09
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Charlie Kuss <chaztuna(at)adelphia.net> |
| Subject: | BMA EFIS Lite question |
Listers,
I have a question for those of you who have installed a BMA Lite unit in
your panel. What spacing do you recommend between the Lite and the
instruments (assume 3.125") around it? I ask because the web site drawings
show that the screen on the EFIS Lite extends rearward of the panel for
what appears to be (I don't have an EFIS Lite yet) about 1/2". I'm
concerned that if I place my instruments to closely together, that the
thickness of the screen will block my view of the surrounding instruments.
Suggestions please.
Charlie Kuss
December 05, 2004 - December 08, 2004
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