RV10-Archive.digest.vol-ca
January 26, 2007 - February 11, 2007
>invoice with the order, and turnaround time for mine was only a day or
>two.
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Electric Rudder Trim |
Bob,
Sorry I can't remember the part number and can't seem to find it. For
the servo I'm using the Ray Allen Co. T3-12A like Vic. You need to be aware
that the arm is not centered on the servo but offset. This is why you should
have the parts before cutting so you can lay it out. As far as the servo arm
being perpendicular, both mine and his are. On his it looks like he put his
plate parallel to the ground and then attached the servo to plate at an angle
so
the arm is perpendicular to the trailing edge. Also the servo would be
parallel to the trailing edge. I did mine a bit different. I installed the access
plate parallel to the trailing edge and not to the ground. Either way works.
I'm still putting mine together whereas Vic's flying so I may have a
hick up, but I think it will work.
Dave Syvertson
40625
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| From: | <rvmail(at)thelefflers.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Electric Rudder Trim |
Thanks for looking.......
Now I've got a couple more...
In the pictures on Tim's site, Vic has a Ray Allen T2-7A servo. I see from Ray
Allen's site tht the difference from the one you used is about a half inch in
travel. Is that variance significant?
Also, do you have a source for the T adapter that is on the hinge?
Am I getting thrown off by the trim cover being parallel to the ground that makes
the servo arm not to be perpedicular to the hinge?
Thanks to Tim and Jesse for providing the access cover part numbers.
Once I get all this information, I'll add to Dave's and Vic's docs and give to
Tim so minimize the leg work for those that follow us.
bob
>
> From: Dsyvert(at)aol.com
> Date: 2007/01/26 Fri AM 08:50:48 EST
> To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Electric Rudder Trim
>
> Bob,
>
> Sorry I can't remember the part number and can't seem to find it. For
> the servo I'm using the Ray Allen Co. T3-12A like Vic. You need to be aware
> that the arm is not centered on the servo but offset. This is why you should
> have the parts before cutting so you can lay it out. As far as the servo arm
> being perpendicular, both mine and his are. On his it looks like he put his
> plate parallel to the ground and then attached the servo to plate at an angle
so
> the arm is perpendicular to the trailing edge. Also the servo would be
> parallel to the trailing edge. I did mine a bit different. I installed the access
> plate parallel to the trailing edge and not to the ground. Either way works.
>
> I'm still putting mine together whereas Vic's flying so I may have a
> hick up, but I think it will work.
>
> Dave Syvertson
> 40625
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Electric Rudder Trim |
| From: | "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder(at)sausen.net> |
Just to further foster the "build it yourself" mantra of late. The
"T" adapter is nothing more than 2 pieces of AL bent into opposing "L"
shapes and drilled. If you have any scrap AL sheet around (of the
proper thickness) you can easily make your own cover plates. I copied
the one that came with my kit for use in various places. No sense in
paying shipping or the handling charge for something like that. With my
hat shelf project I ended up buying a sheet of aluminum from Airparts so
I had a bunch left over for things like that. Great company and they
are always at OSH.
Vic's seems to work fine but I would think you would want at least a
total of 1" of travel on the servo. Not completely for the hinge travel
but to also allow a little more leeway in adjusting for the
installation.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Limbo
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
rvmail(at)thelefflers.com
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 9:13 AM
Subject: Re: Re: RV10-List: Re: Electric Rudder Trim
Thanks for looking.......
Now I've got a couple more...
In the pictures on Tim's site, Vic has a Ray Allen T2-7A servo. I see
from Ray Allen's site tht the difference from the one you used is about
a half inch in travel. Is that variance significant?
Also, do you have a source for the T adapter that is on the hinge?
Am I getting thrown off by the trim cover being parallel to the ground
that makes the servo arm not to be perpedicular to the hinge?
Thanks to Tim and Jesse for providing the access cover part numbers.
Once I get all this information, I'll add to Dave's and Vic's docs and
give to Tim so minimize the leg work for those that follow us.
bob
>
> From: Dsyvert(at)aol.com
> Date: 2007/01/26 Fri AM 08:50:48 EST
> To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Electric Rudder Trim
>
> Bob,
>
> Sorry I can't remember the part number and can't seem to find it.
For
> the servo I'm using the Ray Allen Co. T3-12A like Vic. You need to be
aware
> that the arm is not centered on the servo but offset. This is why you
should
> have the parts before cutting so you can lay it out. As far as the
servo arm
> being perpendicular, both mine and his are. On his it looks like he
put his
> plate parallel to the ground and then attached the servo to plate at
an angle so
> the arm is perpendicular to the trailing edge. Also the servo would
be
> parallel to the trailing edge. I did mine a bit different. I installed
the access
> plate parallel to the trailing edge and not to the ground. Either way
works.
>
> I'm still putting mine together whereas Vic's flying so I may
have a
> hick up, but I think it will work.
>
> Dave Syvertson
> 40625
>
>
>
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| From: | Niko <owl40188(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Painting around Window Perimeter |
I am getting close to installing windows and I have been wondering, when pa
inting, do most people paint the perimeter of the windows and windshield i
n order to cover the glue joint? In there any kind of sealer between the w
indows and the Cabin Cover? Is the glue visible?=0A=0Athanks=0A=0ANiko=0A4
0188
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| From: | "Dave Leikam" <DAVELEIKAM(at)wi.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Elevator movement |
I unbolted the center bearing at the top of the elevator horns and sure
enough, the hole on the top of the right horn is a touch lower than it
needs to be. Just enough to cause the horn to flex up less than 1 mm
with the bolt in. This is causing the bind. Now what to do?
I followed the plans and put the drill bushing in my DeWalt 12 volt and
put a file to it until it fit into the bearing. No problem with that.
The bottom holes of the horn came out fine as well using the wood block.
Dave Leikam
40496
----- Original Message -----
From: Jesse Saint
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 6:41 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Elevator movement
That sounds to me like the holes in the horns that bolt together with
the AN4-13A (or whatever it is) night not be quite lined up. I would
pull that bolt out and see if that makes the difference. If you are
connected to the pushrod, pull that off as well and find out, adding one
thing at a time, where the problem is. I know it is a pain to get those
washers in on the AN4 bolt, but removing a number of things and then
adding them one at a time to see what makes the difference would be my
suggestion. If it is not that the holes are misaligned, then it could
be that you have too many/few washers around that bearing and it is
getting a little distorted when tightened and putting drag on the
system. It is not hard at all to get that hold a little off center, so
that is where I would recommend looking.
BTW, did anybody else have problems with the drill bushing not fitting
in the bearing. With a lathe that problem is easily fixed, but we ended
up having to have a bushing machined from scratch to do that drilling.
Also, on drilling the horns for the pushrod, use a block of aluminum
instead of a block of wood as Van's suggests, and make sure that when
you measure to drill the first horn that it is not hanging lower than
the other, because that might put you too close to the edge of the
second. Anybody having the horns quite a bit out of alignment? I have
seen some that are over =BD inch out of alignment and others that are
perfectly lined up. The plans say that they might not be quite right,
but that is a lot of variation.
Hope this helps. I was working on that exact thing this week, so it
is pretty fresh. Let me know how it comes out.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse(at)saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
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From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Leikam
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 12:44 AM
To: matronics
Subject: RV10-List: Elevator movement
Tonight I installed my elevators and control tube. After install, the
freedom of movement seemed a bit tight. The elevators do not sag
freely. They will stay in any position I put them. Not binding, but
just a bit tight. Everything lines up perfectly. Before I installed
the center bolt under the VS, they each sagged more freely. They have
very smooth movement just the same. Anyone have this experience?
Dave Leikam
40496
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-Listhttp://forums.matronics.com
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| From: | "John Hasbrouck" <jhasbrouck(at)woh.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Elevator movement |
Dave,
If one hole was forward of the other I'd suggest trying to adjust ot
out with the hinge bearings but that won't help in your situation. ( I
don't think ) . Check with Van's. You may still be within spec and not
have to do anything.
John Hasbrouck
#40264
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| From: | "jdalton77" <jdalton77(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Lettering for Panels |
Great idea. I just checked out their site and there are a lot of ways to
use these guys. Thanks!
Jeff Dalton
----- Original Message -----
From: "Snow, Daniel A." <Daniel.Snow(at)wancdf.com>
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 8:22 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Lettering for Panels
>
>
> I used Camera Graphics in Oregon to produce rub-off letters. You supply
> them with a .doc and .pdf file, they create a master sheet, and then
> copy the master to a transfer sheet. My 8-1/2" x 11" sheet cost $65
> including shipping. I was very pleased with the outcome. It has the
> same professional appearance as silkscreening.
>
> You can contact them at 503-234-1967 or email them at
> transfers(at)cgpdx.com. Mr. Zell is very good to work with. He sends an
> invoice with the order, and turnaround time for mine was only a day or
> two.
>
> From: Niko <owl40188(at)yahoo.com>
> Subject: RV10-List: Lettering for Panels
>
> I have been wondering how people do lettering in their instument panels.
> A
> nyone care to volunteer some info?=0A=0ANiko=0A40188 on Cabin Cover
>
>
>
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| From: | Phil White <philwhite9(at)aol.com> |
| Subject: | Door fit - curvature change question |
All
I have built and hung the first door. When it was a shell without
the window, it fit quite well. I glued in the window off the plane, and
now find that there is more of a curve to the door, leading to it being
1/4" proud in the vertical center of the window (both front & rear).
Has anyone else experienced this?
Does anyone have suggestions as to how to achieve a better fit now?
Would a shim between the hinges and the door, combined with lowering the
latch holes in the door frame to stretch the door work, do you think?
Phil #40220 (windows + doors in IL)
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| From: | MauleDriver <MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com> |
| Subject: | What bolts onto F1011E - rudder cable hold downs? |
I'm ready to close up the rear tailcone deck but I'm looking at F1011E
and see that 'something' bolts into the 2 nutplates. So far, I just
can't find the step or 'thing' that goes there.
Should I bolt it in now?
Thanks for any help here.
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| From: | "John Hilger" <ninepapa(at)bendbroadband.com> |
| Subject: | Re: What bolts onto F1011E - rudder cable hold downs? |
Those nutplates are for the clamps to secure tubes that locate the rudder
cable.
Vans hase you install them in section 38.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "MauleDriver" <MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 11:21 AM
Subject: RV10-List: What bolts onto F1011E - rudder cable hold downs?
>
> I'm ready to close up the rear tailcone deck but I'm looking at F1011E and
> see that 'something' bolts into the 2 nutplates. So far, I just can't
> find the step or 'thing' that goes there.
>
> Should I bolt it in now?
>
> Thanks for any help here.
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Washer installation tool |
| From: | "dmaib(at)mac.com" <dmaib(at)mac.com> |
I know I have seen some photo's of a tool made out of a popsicle stick or tongue
depresser that is made to help get washers installed on bolts for rod end installations
and such. I cannot locate anything using the search feature. Anybody
help with this?
--------
David Maib
RV-10 #40559
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=90930#90930
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| From: | JSMcGrew(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Washer installation tool |
I use fishing line that is threaded through everything to initially hold all
the washers in place and in the proper order, then I use a 1/8" punch to get
everything aligned. Then I remove the fishing line and push the punch out
with the bolt. It's not all that easy every time, but that's how I did most of
my rod end installations.
Jim
40134
In a message dated 1/27/2007 8:53:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
dmaib(at)mac.com writes:
--> RV10-List message posted by: "dmaib(at)mac.com"
I know I have seen some photo's of a tool made out of a popsicle stick or
tongue depresser that is made to help get washers installed on bolts for rod
end installations and such. I cannot locate anything using the search feature.
Anybody help with this?
--------
David Maib
RV-10 #40559
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=90930#90930
Jim "Scooter" McGrew
_http://www.mit.edu/~jsmcgrew_ (http://www.mit.edu/~jsmcgrew)
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| From: | Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Washer installation tool |
There's one here:
http://www.myrv10.com/tips/generaltips.html
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
dmaib(at)mac.com wrote:
>
> I know I have seen some photo's of a tool made out of a popsicle stick or tongue
depresser that is made to help get washers installed on bolts for rod end
installations and such. I cannot locate anything using the search feature. Anybody
help with this?
>
> --------
> David Maib
> RV-10 #40559
>
>
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| From: | Larry Rosen <LarryRosen(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Washer installation tool |
I was given this suggestion, but have not used it my self.
Super glue the edge of the washer to a wire. Use the wire to hold the
washer in place. Insert the bolt and then pull the wire off the washer.
YMMV
Larry
dmaib(at)mac.com wrote:
>
> I know I have seen some photo's of a tool made out of a popsicle stick or tongue
depresser that is made to help get washers installed on bolts for rod end
installations and such. I cannot locate anything using the search feature. Anybody
help with this?
>
> --------
> David Maib
> RV-10 #40559
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=90930#90930
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| Subject: | Nutplate Corrosion - To Prime or Not To Prime? |
| From: | "Patrick Pulis" <patrick.pulis(at)seagas.com.au> |
I'm in the process of installing the nut plates onto my spar and am
seeking other builders thoughts re priming of the nut plates once
installed to inhibit the likelihood of future corrosion.
I am using Duralac on each nut plate prior to riveting to inhibit
corrosion due to dissimilar metal contact and I have primed the
countersinks in the spar flange prior to installing the nut plates.
Should I also prime the nut plates themselves once installed on the
underside of the spar flanges?
Your thoughts, experiences and suggestions would be very much
appreciated please.
Regards
Patrick Pulis
#40299
Adelaide, South Australia
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| From: | Rob Kermanj <flysrv10(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Door fit - curvature change question |
Fooling with other parts of the door is inviting problems with the
door operation later. I colecoed my door to the fuselage and glued
the window.
I think that you have two options, fair the 1/4" even with fuselage
if possible, or if it is bad enough redo the window. Fix it, as you
will be sorry to face the mismatch every time you fly.
Rob.
On Jan 27, 2007, at 12:55 PM, Phil White wrote:
>
> All
> I have built and hung the first door. When it was a shell
> without the window, it fit quite well. I glued in the window off
> the plane, and now find that there is more of a curve to the door,
> leading to it being 1/4" proud in the vertical center of the window
> (both front & rear).
>
> Has anyone else experienced this?
>
> Does anyone have suggestions as to how to achieve a better fit
> now? Would a shim between the hinges and the door, combined with
> lowering the latch holes in the door frame to stretch the door
> work, do you think?
>
> Phil #40220 (windows + doors in IL)
>
>
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| From: | Rob Kermanj <flysrv10(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Washer installation tool |
Another easy way also is to use a masking tape to hold the washer in
place and pull the tape out once the washer is in place and the bolt
is inserted.
On Jan 27, 2007, at 10:59 PM, Larry Rosen wrote:
>
> I was given this suggestion, but have not used it my self.
> Super glue the edge of the washer to a wire. Use the wire to hold
> the washer in place. Insert the bolt and then pull the wire off
> the washer.
>
> YMMV
> Larry
>
> dmaib(at)mac.com wrote:
>>
>> I know I have seen some photo's of a tool made out of a popsicle
>> stick or tongue depresser that is made to help get washers
>> installed on bolts for rod end installations and such. I cannot
>> locate anything using the search feature. Anybody help with this?
>>
>> --------
>> David Maib
>> RV-10 #40559
>>
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>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=90930#90930
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| From: | jdalton77(at)comcast.net |
| Subject: | Re: Washer installation tool |
I've been using these funny needlenose pliers I ran across - the end are curved
down sharply enabling me to fit them into funny angles. Works for both washers
and nuts.
-------------- Original message --------------
From: Rob Kermanj <flysrv10(at)gmail.com>
>
> Another easy way also is to use a masking tape to hold the washer in
> place and pull the tape out once the washer is in place and the bolt
> is inserted.
>
>
> On Jan 27, 2007, at 10:59 PM, Larry Rosen wrote:
>
> >
> > I was given this suggestion, but have not used it my self.
> > Super glue the edge of the washer to a wire. Use the wire to hold
> > the washer in place. Insert the bolt and then pull the wire off
> > the washer.
> >
> > YMMV
> > Larry
> >
> > dmaib(at)mac.com wrote:
> >>
> >> I know I have seen some photo's of a tool made out of a popsicle
> >> stick or tongue depresser that is made to help get washers
> >> installed on bolts for rod end installations and such. I cannot
> >> locate anything using the search feature. Anybody help with this?
> >>
> >> --------
> >> David Maib
> >> RV-10 #40559
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Read this topic online here:
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> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=90930#90930
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I've been using these funny needlenose pliers I ran across - the end are curved
down sharply enabling me to fit them into funny angles. Works for
both washers and nuts.
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Rob
Kermanj
>
> Another easy way also is to use
a masking tape to hold the washer in
> place and pull the tape out once
the washer is in place and the bolt
> is inserted.
>
>
> On Jan 27, 2007, at 10:59 PM, Larry Rosen wrote:
>
> >
--> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen
>
>
> > I was given this suggestion, but have not used it my
self.
> > Super glue the edge of the washer to a wire. Use the wire
to hold
> > the washer in place. Insert the bolt and then pull the
wire off
> > the washer.
> >
> > YMMV
> >
Larry
> >
> > dmaib(at)mac.com w
rote:
> >> --> RV10-List message posted by: "dmaib@mac.com"
> >>
> >> I know I have seen some photo's of a tool made out of a popsicle
> >> stick or tongue depresser that is made to help get washers
> >> installed on bolts for rod end installations and such. I cannot
> >> locate anything using the search feature. Anybody help with this?
> >>
> >> --------
> >> David Maib
> >> RV-10 #40559
> >>
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> >> Read this topic online here:
> >>
> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=90930#90930
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> &g
t;
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| Subject: | How does this tank test kit work? |
| From: | "Michael Wellenzohn" <michael(at)wellenzohn.net> |
Hello I purchased Vans tank test kit but how should this fuel feed cover is supposed
to work? Am I missing something here?
Regards
Michael
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RV-10 builder (wings)
#511
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| From: | Deems Davis <deemsdavis(at)cox.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Firewall Forward parts list |
Here's 2 versions
!. This is the version straight as it comes from Van's
2. The second version has the part descriptions cut and pasted into it
to help assist. (It also has my deletions to the kit annotated, just
ignore those)
Deems Davis # 406
Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! )
http://deemsrv10.com/
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | How does this tank test kit work? |
| From: | "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder(at)sausen.net> |
Unfortunately, almost everything in that kit is useless and doesn't
apply to the -10. You will have to improvise most of it.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Limbo
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Wellenzohn
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 2:02 PM
Subject: RV10-List: How does this tank test kit work?
Hello I purchased Vans tank test kit but how should this fuel feed cover
is supposed to work? Am I missing something here?
Regards
Michael
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RV-10 builder (wings)
#511
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| From: | Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com> |
| Subject: | RV-10 Axle Extension Group Order - Reply by Wednesday p.m. |
Good news, everyone...
Today I installed the axle extensions that my friend made from my
drawing and they worked out perfectly. I have some photos from
the install posted here:
http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20070118/index.html#Installation_of_new_extensions
Now that I know they work, I'm going to do something stupid and
since some people found high machining costs, I'm going to coordinate
a group order for extensions that look like these. I had at least
2 quotes come back with costs significantly lower than what other people
were saying. My earlier drawing might actually be more expensive to
make than the final product drawing too. I'll have to re-quote it to
see if pricing will be any lower.
My present quote that I'd go on was: $17.75ea @ quantity 40 and
$24.50ea @ quantity 20. (20 pairs and 10 pairs respectively)
Now, what I'm going to do it this: If you want these extensions
for your plane, I'm only planning to have one run made up, so get them
now. Let me know by Wednesday night, and Thursday a.m. I'll order
them from the machining company and get the hardware on it's
way to me. They need to get the aluminum stock, so there will be
a small delay before they start making them.
You do not need to send payment right away...Yes, I know, that's
stupid, but I'm planning to write a check for well over $1000 to
cover the production, but only if the buyers are willing to commit
to paying for them.
What you'll get:
1 PAIR of Axle entensions, all drilled and tapped, 3-3/8" long so
they don't require the large flat washer. They should directly
replace the original part. You'll also get (3) AN5-6A bolts,
so you have one as a spare, for bolting them to the axle nut.
You'll also get (3) MS24693C298 screws for the outer ends, that
will be 1/4" longer than original so they don't back out and fall
off as easily (mine almost came out...use loctite!) And, I'm
going to send you (3) MS24665-292 cotter pins, and (3)
MS24665-362 cotter pins, so you have all of the hardware required
to attach them.
Your job: Drill your existing holes on the axle nuts out to 5/16"
and deburr (I deburred mine today because I miss all the deburring
so much ;) ) Then assemble the AN5 bolt/washer to the extension and
torque. Then, use a #40 drill through the guide hole and drill
out the hole and the bolt to #40. Pin them together with the small
cotter pins, install the axle nuts and pin with the large pins.
Then secure the fairing with the 1/4" stainless machine screw.
Since this is something I'm not doing for profit, I'm going to
make it easy on myself. They'll all be picked up at the same
time, and I'll throw them all into USPS Priority mail at the
same time. I'll split the costs of everything evenly, and round
any costs up to the next highest dollar. When all is said and
done, I'll tell you if the total with shipping is any higher than
my expectations...which would be between $45 and $55 per pair,
all complete to your door with the hardware.
One exception: Since this isn't for-profit in any way, I'm going
to make it easy on myself and limit it to the US continental 48
states only so I can use USPS Priority mail.
Again, I'll only be doing this group order one time, so if you want
them, now's the time. After this order, if for some reason I'm
crazy enough to do it again, I'd add on extra cost for the time, and
it might be harder to get a good list of people together to keep
the price down. If for some reason we can't get 10 people for
this order, I won't bother, but my gut feeling is that we'll probably
easily make the 20 pair (quantity 40) level. I just want to do this
because after installing them I know they worked well for me, and
it'll keep you all from spending a fortune on one-offs from your
local machinist. In the spirit of "no up front money" that
we have today, you can send your payment either via paypal
or by check after you get them. I know everyone will pay up, because
we're all nice people and if you don't, I'll tell the list on you. ;)
If you pay by paypal though, add a little to cover the fees that
they charge. Tips are not required, but will be accepted if you're
just so happy after getting them that you really want to. ;)
If the price for any reason looks like it'll be over $60, I will not
proceed without contacting everyone who got on the list first.
Email me at my email address if you want to get on the list.
--
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Rob Kermanj <flysrv10(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: RV-10 Axle Extension Group Order - Reply by Wednesday p.m. |
Count me in and thanks for doing this. Nice process and organization.
Rob.
On Jan 28, 2007, at 7:41 PM, Tim Olson wrote:
>
> Good news, everyone...
>
> Today I installed the axle extensions that my friend made from my
> drawing and they worked out perfectly. I have some photos from
> the install posted here:
>
> http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20070118/
> index.html#Installation_of_new_extensions
>
> Now that I know they work, I'm going to do something stupid and
> since some people found high machining costs, I'm going to coordinate
> a group order for extensions that look like these. I had at least
> 2 quotes come back with costs significantly lower than what other
> people
> were saying. My earlier drawing might actually be more expensive to
> make than the final product drawing too. I'll have to re-quote it to
> see if pricing will be any lower.
>
> My present quote that I'd go on was: $17.75ea @ quantity 40 and
> $24.50ea @ quantity 20. (20 pairs and 10 pairs respectively)
>
> Now, what I'm going to do it this: If you want these extensions
> for your plane, I'm only planning to have one run made up, so get them
> now. Let me know by Wednesday night, and Thursday a.m. I'll order
> them from the machining company and get the hardware on it's
> way to me. They need to get the aluminum stock, so there will be
> a small delay before they start making them.
> You do not need to send payment right away...Yes, I know, that's
> stupid, but I'm planning to write a check for well over $1000 to
> cover the production, but only if the buyers are willing to commit
> to paying for them.
>
> What you'll get:
> 1 PAIR of Axle entensions, all drilled and tapped, 3-3/8" long so
> they don't require the large flat washer. They should directly
> replace the original part. You'll also get (3) AN5-6A bolts,
> so you have one as a spare, for bolting them to the axle nut.
> You'll also get (3) MS24693C298 screws for the outer ends, that
> will be 1/4" longer than original so they don't back out and fall
> off as easily (mine almost came out...use loctite!) And, I'm
> going to send you (3) MS24665-292 cotter pins, and (3)
> MS24665-362 cotter pins, so you have all of the hardware required
> to attach them.
>
> Your job: Drill your existing holes on the axle nuts out to 5/16"
> and deburr (I deburred mine today because I miss all the deburring
> so much ;) ) Then assemble the AN5 bolt/washer to the extension and
> torque. Then, use a #40 drill through the guide hole and drill
> out the hole and the bolt to #40. Pin them together with the small
> cotter pins, install the axle nuts and pin with the large pins.
> Then secure the fairing with the 1/4" stainless machine screw.
>
> Since this is something I'm not doing for profit, I'm going to
> make it easy on myself. They'll all be picked up at the same
> time, and I'll throw them all into USPS Priority mail at the
> same time. I'll split the costs of everything evenly, and round
> any costs up to the next highest dollar. When all is said and
> done, I'll tell you if the total with shipping is any higher than
> my expectations...which would be between $45 and $55 per pair,
> all complete to your door with the hardware.
>
> One exception: Since this isn't for-profit in any way, I'm going
> to make it easy on myself and limit it to the US continental 48
> states only so I can use USPS Priority mail.
>
> Again, I'll only be doing this group order one time, so if you want
> them, now's the time. After this order, if for some reason I'm
> crazy enough to do it again, I'd add on extra cost for the time, and
> it might be harder to get a good list of people together to keep
> the price down. If for some reason we can't get 10 people for
> this order, I won't bother, but my gut feeling is that we'll probably
> easily make the 20 pair (quantity 40) level. I just want to do this
> because after installing them I know they worked well for me, and
> it'll keep you all from spending a fortune on one-offs from your
> local machinist. In the spirit of "no up front money" that
> we have today, you can send your payment either via paypal
> or by check after you get them. I know everyone will pay up, because
> we're all nice people and if you don't, I'll tell the list on you. ;)
> If you pay by paypal though, add a little to cover the fees that
> they charge. Tips are not required, but will be accepted if you're
> just so happy after getting them that you really want to. ;)
>
> If the price for any reason looks like it'll be over $60, I will not
> proceed without contacting everyone who got on the list first.
>
> Email me at my email address if you want to get on the list.
>
> --
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | David Maib <dmaib(at)mac.com> |
| Subject: | Re: RV-10 Axle Extension Group Order - Reply by Wednesday p.m. |
Tim,
I will take a set. Thank you so much for all you do for this group of
builders. Fantastic!
David Maib
#40559
struggling with elevator trim (grrrrrr)
On Jan 28, 2007, at 6:41 PM, Tim Olson wrote:
Good news, everyone...
Today I installed the axle extensions that my friend made from my
drawing and they worked out perfectly. I have some photos from
the install posted here:
http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20070118/
index.html#Installation_of_new_extensions
Now that I know they work, I'm going to do something stupid and
since some people found high machining costs, I'm going to coordinate
a group order for extensions that look like these. I had at least
2 quotes come back with costs significantly lower than what other people
were saying. My earlier drawing might actually be more expensive to
make than the final product drawing too. I'll have to re-quote it to
see if pricing will be any lower.
My present quote that I'd go on was: $17.75ea @ quantity 40 and
$24.50ea @ quantity 20. (20 pairs and 10 pairs respectively)
Now, what I'm going to do it this: If you want these extensions
for your plane, I'm only planning to have one run made up, so get them
now. Let me know by Wednesday night, and Thursday a.m. I'll order
them from the machining company and get the hardware on it's
way to me. They need to get the aluminum stock, so there will be
a small delay before they start making them.
You do not need to send payment right away...Yes, I know, that's
stupid, but I'm planning to write a check for well over $1000 to
cover the production, but only if the buyers are willing to commit
to paying for them.
What you'll get:
1 PAIR of Axle entensions, all drilled and tapped, 3-3/8" long so
they don't require the large flat washer. They should directly
replace the original part. You'll also get (3) AN5-6A bolts,
so you have one as a spare, for bolting them to the axle nut.
You'll also get (3) MS24693C298 screws for the outer ends, that
will be 1/4" longer than original so they don't back out and fall
off as easily (mine almost came out...use loctite!) And, I'm
going to send you (3) MS24665-292 cotter pins, and (3)
MS24665-362 cotter pins, so you have all of the hardware required
to attach them.
Your job: Drill your existing holes on the axle nuts out to 5/16"
and deburr (I deburred mine today because I miss all the deburring
so much ;) ) Then assemble the AN5 bolt/washer to the extension and
torque. Then, use a #40 drill through the guide hole and drill
out the hole and the bolt to #40. Pin them together with the small
cotter pins, install the axle nuts and pin with the large pins.
Then secure the fairing with the 1/4" stainless machine screw.
Since this is something I'm not doing for profit, I'm going to
make it easy on myself. They'll all be picked up at the same
time, and I'll throw them all into USPS Priority mail at the
same time. I'll split the costs of everything evenly, and round
any costs up to the next highest dollar. When all is said and
done, I'll tell you if the total with shipping is any higher than
my expectations...which would be between $45 and $55 per pair,
all complete to your door with the hardware.
One exception: Since this isn't for-profit in any way, I'm going
to make it easy on myself and limit it to the US continental 48
states only so I can use USPS Priority mail.
Again, I'll only be doing this group order one time, so if you want
them, now's the time. After this order, if for some reason I'm
crazy enough to do it again, I'd add on extra cost for the time, and
it might be harder to get a good list of people together to keep
the price down. If for some reason we can't get 10 people for
this order, I won't bother, but my gut feeling is that we'll probably
easily make the 20 pair (quantity 40) level. I just want to do this
because after installing them I know they worked well for me, and
it'll keep you all from spending a fortune on one-offs from your
local machinist. In the spirit of "no up front money" that
we have today, you can send your payment either via paypal
or by check after you get them. I know everyone will pay up, because
we're all nice people and if you don't, I'll tell the list on you. ;)
If you pay by paypal though, add a little to cover the fees that
they charge. Tips are not required, but will be accepted if you're
just so happy after getting them that you really want to. ;)
If the price for any reason looks like it'll be over $60, I will not
proceed without contacting everyone who got on the list first.
Email me at my email address if you want to get on the list.
--
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | EFDsteve(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: RV-10 Axle Extension Group Order - Reply by Wednesday p.m. |
Thanks, Tim.
Please add me to the list for a pair of axle extensions.
Steve Weinstock
40230
In a message dated 1/28/2007 6:46:49 P.M. Central Standard Time,
Tim(at)MyRV10.com writes:
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson
Good news, everyone...
Today I installed the axle extensions that my friend made from my
drawing and they worked out perfectly. I have some photos from
the install posted here:
http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20070118/index.html#Installation_of_new_
extensions
Now that I know they work, I'm going to do something stupid and
since some people found high machining costs, I'm going to coordinate
a group order for extensions that look like these. I had at least
2 quotes come back with costs significantly lower than what other people
were saying. My earlier drawing might actually be more expensive to
make than the final product drawing too. I'll have to re-quote it to
see if pricing will be any lower.
My present quote that I'd go on was: $17.75ea @ quantity 40 and
$24.50ea @ quantity 20. (20 pairs and 10 pairs respectively)
Now, what I'm going to do it this: If you want these extensions
for your plane, I'm only planning to have one run made up, so get them
now. Let me know by Wednesday night, and Thursday a.m. I'll order
them from the machining company and get the hardware on it's
way to me. They need to get the aluminum stock, so there will be
a small delay before they start making them.
You do not need to send payment right away...Yes, I know, that's
stupid, but I'm planning to write a check for well over $1000 to
cover the production, but only if the buyers are willing to commit
to paying for them.
What you'll get:
1 PAIR of Axle entensions, all drilled and tapped, 3-3/8" long so
they don't require the large flat washer. They should directly
replace the original part. You'll also get (3) AN5-6A bolts,
so you have one as a spare, for bolting them to the axle nut.
You'll also get (3) MS24693C298 screws for the outer ends, that
will be 1/4" longer than original so they don't back out and fall
off as easily (mine almost came out...use loctite!) And, I'm
going to send you (3) MS24665-292 cotter pins, and (3)
MS24665-362 cotter pins, so you have all of the hardware required
to attach them.
Your job: Drill your existing holes on the axle nuts out to 5/16"
and deburr (I deburred mine today because I miss all the deburring
so much ;) ) Then assemble the AN5 bolt/washer to the extension and
torque. Then, use a #40 drill through the guide hole and drill
out the hole and the bolt to #40. Pin them together with the small
cotter pins, install the axle nuts and pin with the large pins.
Then secure the fairing with the 1/4" stainless machine screw.
Since this is something I'm not doing for profit, I'm going to
make it easy on myself. They'll all be picked up at the same
time, and I'll throw them all into USPS Priority mail at the
same time. I'll split the costs of everything evenly, and round
any costs up to the next highest dollar. When all is said and
done, I'll tell you if the total with shipping is any higher than
my expectations...which would be between $45 and $55 per pair,
all complete to your door with the hardware.
One exception: Since this isn't for-profit in any way, I'm going
to make it easy on myself and limit it to the US continental 48
states only so I can use USPS Priority mail.
Again, I'll only be doing this group order one time, so if you want
them, now's the time. After this order, if for some reason I'm
crazy enough to do it again, I'd add on extra cost for the time, and
it might be harder to get a good list of people together to keep
the price down. If for some reason we can't get 10 people for
this order, I won't bother, but my gut feeling is that we'll probably
easily make the 20 pair (quantity 40) level. I just want to do this
because after installing them I know they worked well for me, and
it'll keep you all from spending a fortune on one-offs from your
local machinist. In the spirit of "no up front money" that
we have today, you can send your payment either via paypal
or by check after you get them. I know everyone will pay up, because
we're all nice people and if you don't, I'll tell the list on you. ;)
If you pay by paypal though, add a little to cover the fees that
they charge. Tips are not required, but will be accepted if you're
just so happy after getting them that you really want to. ;)
If the price for any reason looks like it'll be over $60, I will not
proceed without contacting everyone who got on the list first.
Email me at my email address if you want to get on the list.
--
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "DejaVu" <wvu(at)ameritel.net> |
| Subject: | Re: How does this tank test kit work? |
Michael,
I tested mine using Dan Checkoway's method, described here:
http://www.rvproject.com/20020710.html . It is quite sensitive to
atmospheric changes but should give a good feel.
Anh
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Wellenzohn" <michael(at)wellenzohn.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 3:01 PM
Subject: RV10-List: How does this tank test kit work?
>
>
>
>
> Hello I purchased Vans tank test kit but how should this fuel feed cover
> is supposed to work? Am I missing something here?
>
> Regards
> Michael
>
> --------
> RV-10 builder (wings)
> #511
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=91096#91096
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/20070128_wings_01_503.jpg
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Dave Leikam" <DAVELEIKAM(at)wi.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: RV-10 Axle Extension Group Order - Reply by Wednesday p.m. |
Send me a pair if you have a slot left.
Dave Leikam
40496
S79 W16389 Woods Rd
Muskego, WI 53150
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Olson" <Tim(at)MyRV10.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 6:41 PM
Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 Axle Extension Group Order - Reply by Wednesday
p.m.
>
> Good news, everyone...
>
> Today I installed the axle extensions that my friend made from my
> drawing and they worked out perfectly. I have some photos from
> the install posted here:
>
> http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20070118/index.html#Installation_of_new_extensions
>
> Now that I know they work, I'm going to do something stupid and
> since some people found high machining costs, I'm going to coordinate
> a group order for extensions that look like these. I had at least
> 2 quotes come back with costs significantly lower than what other people
> were saying. My earlier drawing might actually be more expensive to
> make than the final product drawing too. I'll have to re-quote it to
> see if pricing will be any lower.
>
> My present quote that I'd go on was: $17.75ea @ quantity 40 and
> $24.50ea @ quantity 20. (20 pairs and 10 pairs respectively)
>
> Now, what I'm going to do it this: If you want these extensions
> for your plane, I'm only planning to have one run made up, so get them
> now. Let me know by Wednesday night, and Thursday a.m. I'll order
> them from the machining company and get the hardware on it's
> way to me. They need to get the aluminum stock, so there will be
> a small delay before they start making them.
> You do not need to send payment right away...Yes, I know, that's
> stupid, but I'm planning to write a check for well over $1000 to
> cover the production, but only if the buyers are willing to commit
> to paying for them.
>
> What you'll get:
> 1 PAIR of Axle entensions, all drilled and tapped, 3-3/8" long so
> they don't require the large flat washer. They should directly
> replace the original part. You'll also get (3) AN5-6A bolts,
> so you have one as a spare, for bolting them to the axle nut.
> You'll also get (3) MS24693C298 screws for the outer ends, that
> will be 1/4" longer than original so they don't back out and fall
> off as easily (mine almost came out...use loctite!) And, I'm
> going to send you (3) MS24665-292 cotter pins, and (3)
> MS24665-362 cotter pins, so you have all of the hardware required
> to attach them.
>
> Your job: Drill your existing holes on the axle nuts out to 5/16"
> and deburr (I deburred mine today because I miss all the deburring
> so much ;) ) Then assemble the AN5 bolt/washer to the extension and
> torque. Then, use a #40 drill through the guide hole and drill
> out the hole and the bolt to #40. Pin them together with the small
> cotter pins, install the axle nuts and pin with the large pins.
> Then secure the fairing with the 1/4" stainless machine screw.
>
> Since this is something I'm not doing for profit, I'm going to
> make it easy on myself. They'll all be picked up at the same
> time, and I'll throw them all into USPS Priority mail at the
> same time. I'll split the costs of everything evenly, and round
> any costs up to the next highest dollar. When all is said and
> done, I'll tell you if the total with shipping is any higher than
> my expectations...which would be between $45 and $55 per pair,
> all complete to your door with the hardware.
>
> One exception: Since this isn't for-profit in any way, I'm going
> to make it easy on myself and limit it to the US continental 48
> states only so I can use USPS Priority mail.
>
> Again, I'll only be doing this group order one time, so if you want
> them, now's the time. After this order, if for some reason I'm
> crazy enough to do it again, I'd add on extra cost for the time, and
> it might be harder to get a good list of people together to keep
> the price down. If for some reason we can't get 10 people for
> this order, I won't bother, but my gut feeling is that we'll probably
> easily make the 20 pair (quantity 40) level. I just want to do this
> because after installing them I know they worked well for me, and
> it'll keep you all from spending a fortune on one-offs from your
> local machinist. In the spirit of "no up front money" that
> we have today, you can send your payment either via paypal
> or by check after you get them. I know everyone will pay up, because
> we're all nice people and if you don't, I'll tell the list on you. ;)
> If you pay by paypal though, add a little to cover the fees that
> they charge. Tips are not required, but will be accepted if you're
> just so happy after getting them that you really want to. ;)
>
> If the price for any reason looks like it'll be over $60, I will not
> proceed without contacting everyone who got on the list first.
>
> Email me at my email address if you want to get on the list.
>
> --
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Rene" <rene(at)felker.com> |
| Subject: | RV-10 Axle Extension Group Order - Reply by Wednesday p.m. |
Tim, add me to the list. Thanks for doing it.
Rene'
801-721-6080
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 5:41 PM
Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 Axle Extension Group Order - Reply by Wednesday
p.m.
Good news, everyone...
Today I installed the axle extensions that my friend made from my
drawing and they worked out perfectly. I have some photos from
the install posted here:
http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20070118/index.html#Installation_of_ne
w_extensions
Now that I know they work, I'm going to do something stupid and
since some people found high machining costs, I'm going to coordinate
a group order for extensions that look like these. I had at least
2 quotes come back with costs significantly lower than what other people
were saying. My earlier drawing might actually be more expensive to
make than the final product drawing too. I'll have to re-quote it to
see if pricing will be any lower.
My present quote that I'd go on was: $17.75ea @ quantity 40 and
$24.50ea @ quantity 20. (20 pairs and 10 pairs respectively)
Now, what I'm going to do it this: If you want these extensions
for your plane, I'm only planning to have one run made up, so get them
now. Let me know by Wednesday night, and Thursday a.m. I'll order
them from the machining company and get the hardware on it's
way to me. They need to get the aluminum stock, so there will be
a small delay before they start making them.
You do not need to send payment right away...Yes, I know, that's
stupid, but I'm planning to write a check for well over $1000 to
cover the production, but only if the buyers are willing to commit
to paying for them.
What you'll get:
1 PAIR of Axle entensions, all drilled and tapped, 3-3/8" long so
they don't require the large flat washer. They should directly
replace the original part. You'll also get (3) AN5-6A bolts,
so you have one as a spare, for bolting them to the axle nut.
You'll also get (3) MS24693C298 screws for the outer ends, that
will be 1/4" longer than original so they don't back out and fall
off as easily (mine almost came out...use loctite!) And, I'm
going to send you (3) MS24665-292 cotter pins, and (3)
MS24665-362 cotter pins, so you have all of the hardware required
to attach them.
Your job: Drill your existing holes on the axle nuts out to 5/16"
and deburr (I deburred mine today because I miss all the deburring
so much ;) ) Then assemble the AN5 bolt/washer to the extension and
torque. Then, use a #40 drill through the guide hole and drill
out the hole and the bolt to #40. Pin them together with the small
cotter pins, install the axle nuts and pin with the large pins.
Then secure the fairing with the 1/4" stainless machine screw.
Since this is something I'm not doing for profit, I'm going to
make it easy on myself. They'll all be picked up at the same
time, and I'll throw them all into USPS Priority mail at the
same time. I'll split the costs of everything evenly, and round
any costs up to the next highest dollar. When all is said and
done, I'll tell you if the total with shipping is any higher than
my expectations...which would be between $45 and $55 per pair,
all complete to your door with the hardware.
One exception: Since this isn't for-profit in any way, I'm going
to make it easy on myself and limit it to the US continental 48
states only so I can use USPS Priority mail.
Again, I'll only be doing this group order one time, so if you want
them, now's the time. After this order, if for some reason I'm
crazy enough to do it again, I'd add on extra cost for the time, and
it might be harder to get a good list of people together to keep
the price down. If for some reason we can't get 10 people for
this order, I won't bother, but my gut feeling is that we'll probably
easily make the 20 pair (quantity 40) level. I just want to do this
because after installing them I know they worked well for me, and
it'll keep you all from spending a fortune on one-offs from your
local machinist. In the spirit of "no up front money" that
we have today, you can send your payment either via paypal
or by check after you get them. I know everyone will pay up, because
we're all nice people and if you don't, I'll tell the list on you. ;)
If you pay by paypal though, add a little to cover the fees that
they charge. Tips are not required, but will be accepted if you're
just so happy after getting them that you really want to. ;)
If the price for any reason looks like it'll be over $60, I will not
proceed without contacting everyone who got on the list first.
Email me at my email address if you want to get on the list.
--
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | RV-10 Axle Extension Group Order - Reply by Wednesday p.m. |
| From: | "Pierre Levy" <pierre(at)danieljofriel.com> |
Tim: I will take a set.
Pierre
Pierre Levy
Builder Number 40690
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 5:41 PM
Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 Axle Extension Group Order - Reply by
Wednesday p.m.
Good news, everyone...
Today I installed the axle extensions that my friend made from my
drawing and they worked out perfectly. I have some photos from the
install posted here:
http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20070118/index.html#Installation_o
f_new_extensions
Now that I know they work, I'm going to do something stupid and since
some people found high machining costs, I'm going to coordinate a group
order for extensions that look like these. I had at least
2 quotes come back with costs significantly lower than what other people
were saying. My earlier drawing might actually be more expensive to
make than the final product drawing too. I'll have to re-quote it to
see if pricing will be any lower.
My present quote that I'd go on was: $17.75ea @ quantity 40 and
$24.50ea @ quantity 20. (20 pairs and 10 pairs respectively)
Now, what I'm going to do it this: If you want these extensions
for your plane, I'm only planning to have one run made up, so get them
now. Let me know by Wednesday night, and Thursday a.m. I'll order them
from the machining company and get the hardware on it's way to me. They
need to get the aluminum stock, so there will be a small delay before
they start making them.
You do not need to send payment right away...Yes, I know, that's stupid,
but I'm planning to write a check for well over $1000 to cover the
production, but only if the buyers are willing to commit to paying for
them.
What you'll get:
1 PAIR of Axle entensions, all drilled and tapped, 3-3/8" long so they
don't require the large flat washer. They should directly replace the
original part. You'll also get (3) AN5-6A bolts, so you have one as a
spare, for bolting them to the axle nut.
You'll also get (3) MS24693C298 screws for the outer ends, that will be
1/4" longer than original so they don't back out and fall off as easily
(mine almost came out...use loctite!) And, I'm going to send you (3)
MS24665-292 cotter pins, and (3)
MS24665-362 cotter pins, so you have all of the hardware required to
attach them.
Your job: Drill your existing holes on the axle nuts out to 5/16"
and deburr (I deburred mine today because I miss all the deburring so
much ;) ) Then assemble the AN5 bolt/washer to the extension and
torque. Then, use a #40 drill through the guide hole and drill out the
hole and the bolt to #40. Pin them together with the small cotter pins,
install the axle nuts and pin with the large pins.
Then secure the fairing with the 1/4" stainless machine screw.
Since this is something I'm not doing for profit, I'm going to make it
easy on myself. They'll all be picked up at the same time, and I'll
throw them all into USPS Priority mail at the same time. I'll split the
costs of everything evenly, and round any costs up to the next highest
dollar. When all is said and done, I'll tell you if the total with
shipping is any higher than my expectations...which would be between $45
and $55 per pair, all complete to your door with the hardware.
One exception: Since this isn't for-profit in any way, I'm going to
make it easy on myself and limit it to the US continental 48 states only
so I can use USPS Priority mail.
Again, I'll only be doing this group order one time, so if you want
them, now's the time. After this order, if for some reason I'm crazy
enough to do it again, I'd add on extra cost for the time, and it might
be harder to get a good list of people together to keep the price down.
If for some reason we can't get 10 people for this order, I won't
bother, but my gut feeling is that we'll probably easily make the 20
pair (quantity 40) level. I just want to do this because after
installing them I know they worked well for me, and it'll keep you all
from spending a fortune on one-offs from your local machinist. In the
spirit of "no up front money" that we have today, you can send your
payment either via paypal or by check after you get them. I know
everyone will pay up, because we're all nice people and if you don't,
I'll tell the list on you. ;) If you pay by paypal though, add a little
to cover the fees that they charge. Tips are not required, but will be
accepted if you're just so happy after getting them that you really want
to. ;)
If the price for any reason looks like it'll be over $60, I will not
proceed without contacting everyone who got on the list first.
Email me at my email address if you want to get on the list.
--
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Roger Standley" <taildragon(at)msn.com> |
| Subject: | Re: RV-10 Axle Extension Group Order - Reply by Wednesday p.m. |
=0AHi Tim,=0A=0AI will take a set.=0A=0ARoger=0A#402
91=0A ----- Original Message ----- =0A From: Tim Olson<mailto:
Tim(at)MyRV10.com> =0A To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com =0A Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 4:41 PM=0A Su
bject: RV10-List: RV-10 Axle Extension Group Order - Reply by Wednesda
Tim(at)MyRV10.com>=0A=0A Good news, everyon
e...=0A=0A Today I installed the axle extensions that my friend
made from my=0A drawing and they worked out perfectly. I have so
me photos from=0A the install posted here:=0A=0A http://www
myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20070118/index.html#Installation_of_new_ex
tensions<http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20070118/index.html#Ins
tallation_of_new_extensions>=0A=0A Now that I know they work, I
'm going to do something stupid and=0A since some people found hig
h machining costs, I'm going to coordinate=0A a group order for ex
tensions that look like these. I had at least=0A 2 quotes come ba
ck with costs significantly lower than what other people=0A were s
aying. My earlier drawing might actually be more expensive to=0A
make than the final product drawing too. I'll have to re-quote it to
=0A see if pricing will be any lower.=0A=0A My present quot
e that I'd go on was: $17.75ea @ quantity 40 and=0A $24.50ea @ qu
antity 20. (20 pairs and 10 pairs respectively)=0A=0A Now, what
I'm going to do it this: If you want these extensions=0A for yo
ur plane, I'm only planning to have one run made up, so get them=0A
now. Let me know by Wednesday night, and Thursday a.m. I'll order
=0A them from the machining company and get the hardware on it's
=0A way to me. They need to get the aluminum stock, so there will
be=0A a small delay before they start making them.=0A You do
not need to send payment right away...Yes, I know, that's=0A stupi
d, but I'm planning to write a check for well over $1000 to=0A cov
er the production, but only if the buyers are willing to commit=0A
to paying for them.=0A=0A What you'll get:=0A 1 PAIR of Ax
le entensions, all drilled and tapped, 3-3/8" long so=0A they don'
t require the large flat washer. They should directly=0A replace
the original part. You'll also get (3) AN5-6A bolts,=0A so you ha
ve one as a spare, for bolting them to the axle nut.=0A You'll als
o get (3) MS24693C298 screws for the outer ends, that=0A will be 1
/4" longer than original so they don't back out and fall=0A off as
easily (mine almost came out...use loctite!) And, I'm=0A going t
o send you (3) MS24665-292 cotter pins, and (3)=0A MS24665-362 cot
ter pins, so you have all of the hardware required=0A to attach th
em.=0A=0A Your job: Drill your existing holes on the axle nuts
out to 5/16"=0A and deburr (I deburred mine today because I miss
all the deburring=0A so much ;) ) Then assemble the AN5 bolt/wash
er to the extension and=0A torque. Then, use a #40 drill through
the guide hole and drill=0A out the hole and the bolt to #40. Pin
them together with the small=0A cotter pins, install the axle nut
s and pin with the large pins.=0A Then secure the fairing with the
1/4" stainless machine screw.=0A=0A Since this is something I'
m not doing for profit, I'm going to=0A make it easy on myself. T
hey'll all be picked up at the same=0A time, and I'll throw them a
ll into USPS Priority mail at the=0A same time. I'll split the co
sts of everything evenly, and round=0A any costs up to the next hi
ghest dollar. When all is said and=0A done, I'll tell you if the
total with shipping is any higher than=0A my expectations...which
would be between $45 and $55 per pair,=0A all complete to your doo
r with the hardware.=0A=0A One exception: Since this isn't for
-profit in any way, I'm going=0A to make it easy on myself and lim
it it to the US continental 48=0A states only so I can use USPS Pr
iority mail.=0A=0A Again, I'll only be doing this group order o
ne time, so if you want=0A them, now's the time. After this order
, if for some reason I'm=0A crazy enough to do it again, I'd add o
n extra cost for the time, and=0A it might be harder to get a good
list of people together to keep=0A the price down. If for some r
eason we can't get 10 people for=0A this order, I won't bother, bu
t my gut feeling is that we'll probably=0A easily make the 20 pair
(quantity 40) level. I just want to do this=0A because after ins
talling them I know they worked well for me, and=0A it'll keep you
all from spending a fortune on one-offs from your=0A local machin
ist. In the spirit of "no up front money" that=0A we have today,
you can send your payment either via paypal=0A or by check after y
ou get them. I know everyone will pay up, because=0A we're all ni
ce people and if you don't, I'll tell the list on you. ;)=0A If yo
u pay by paypal though, add a little to cover the fees that=0A the
y charge. Tips are not required, but will be accepted if you're=0A
just so happy after getting them that you really want to. ;)=0A
=0A If the price for any reason looks like it'll be over $60, I wi
ll not=0A proceed without contacting everyone who got on the list
first.=0A=0A Email me at my email address if you want to get on
the list.=0A=0A -- =0A Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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| Subject: | RV-10 Axle Extension Group Order - Reply by Wednesday p.m. |
| From: | "Chris Johnston" <CJohnston(at)popsound.com> |
I'm in!
cj
#40410
fuse
www.perfectlygoodairplane.net
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com on behalf of Tim Olson
Sent: Sun 1/28/2007 4:41 PM
Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 Axle Extension Group Order - Reply by
Wednesday p.m.
Good news, everyone...
Today I installed the axle extensions that my friend made from my
drawing and they worked out perfectly. I have some photos from
the install posted here:
http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20070118/index.html#Installation_of
_new_extensions
Now that I know they work, I'm going to do something stupid and
since some people found high machining costs, I'm going to coordinate
a group order for extensions that look like these. I had at least
2 quotes come back with costs significantly lower than what other people
were saying. My earlier drawing might actually be more expensive to
make than the final product drawing too. I'll have to re-quote it to
see if pricing will be any lower.
My present quote that I'd go on was: $17.75ea @ quantity 40 and
$24.50ea @ quantity 20. (20 pairs and 10 pairs respectively)
Now, what I'm going to do it this: If you want these extensions
for your plane, I'm only planning to have one run made up, so get them
now. Let me know by Wednesday night, and Thursday a.m. I'll order
them from the machining company and get the hardware on it's
way to me. They need to get the aluminum stock, so there will be
a small delay before they start making them.
You do not need to send payment right away...Yes, I know, that's
stupid, but I'm planning to write a check for well over $1000 to
cover the production, but only if the buyers are willing to commit
to paying for them.
What you'll get:
1 PAIR of Axle entensions, all drilled and tapped, 3-3/8" long so
they don't require the large flat washer. They should directly
replace the original part. You'll also get (3) AN5-6A bolts,
so you have one as a spare, for bolting them to the axle nut.
You'll also get (3) MS24693C298 screws for the outer ends, that
will be 1/4" longer than original so they don't back out and fall
off as easily (mine almost came out...use loctite!) And, I'm
going to send you (3) MS24665-292 cotter pins, and (3)
MS24665-362 cotter pins, so you have all of the hardware required
to attach them.
Your job: Drill your existing holes on the axle nuts out to 5/16"
and deburr (I deburred mine today because I miss all the deburring
so much ;) ) Then assemble the AN5 bolt/washer to the extension and
torque. Then, use a #40 drill through the guide hole and drill
out the hole and the bolt to #40. Pin them together with the small
cotter pins, install the axle nuts and pin with the large pins.
Then secure the fairing with the 1/4" stainless machine screw.
Since this is something I'm not doing for profit, I'm going to
make it easy on myself. They'll all be picked up at the same
time, and I'll throw them all into USPS Priority mail at the
same time. I'll split the costs of everything evenly, and round
any costs up to the next highest dollar. When all is said and
done, I'll tell you if the total with shipping is any higher than
my expectations...which would be between $45 and $55 per pair,
all complete to your door with the hardware.
One exception: Since this isn't for-profit in any way, I'm going
to make it easy on myself and limit it to the US continental 48
states only so I can use USPS Priority mail.
Again, I'll only be doing this group order one time, so if you want
them, now's the time. After this order, if for some reason I'm
crazy enough to do it again, I'd add on extra cost for the time, and
it might be harder to get a good list of people together to keep
the price down. If for some reason we can't get 10 people for
this order, I won't bother, but my gut feeling is that we'll probably
easily make the 20 pair (quantity 40) level. I just want to do this
because after installing them I know they worked well for me, and
it'll keep you all from spending a fortune on one-offs from your
local machinist. In the spirit of "no up front money" that
we have today, you can send your payment either via paypal
or by check after you get them. I know everyone will pay up, because
we're all nice people and if you don't, I'll tell the list on you. ;)
If you pay by paypal though, add a little to cover the fees that
they charge. Tips are not required, but will be accepted if you're
just so happy after getting them that you really want to. ;)
If the price for any reason looks like it'll be over $60, I will not
proceed without contacting everyone who got on the list first.
Email me at my email address if you want to get on the list.
--
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com> |
| Subject: | Re: RV-10 Axle Extension Group Order - Reply by Wednesday |
p.m.
Wonderful, you're #51!
Tim
Roger Standley wrote:
>
> Hi Tim,
>
> I will take a set.
>
> Roger
> #40291
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Tim Olson
> *To:* rv10-list(at)matronics.com
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 28, 2007 4:41 PM
> *Subject:* RV10-List: RV-10 Axle Extension Group Order - Reply by
> Wednesday p.m.
>
> >
>
> Good news, everyone...
>
> Today I installed the axle extensions that my friend made from my
> drawing and they worked out perfectly. I have some photos from
> the install posted here:
>
> http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20070118/index.html#Installation_of_new_extensions
>
> Now that I know they work, I'm going to do something stupid and
> since some people found high machining costs, I'm going to coordinate
> a group order for extensions that look like these. I had at least
> 2 quotes come back with costs significantly lower than what other people
> were saying. My earlier drawing might actually be more expensive to
> make than the final product drawing too. I'll have to re-quote it to
> see if pricing will be any lower.
>
> My present quote that I'd go on was: $17.75ea @ quantity 40 and
> $24.50ea @ quantity 20. (20 pairs and 10 pairs respectively)
>
> Now, what I'm going to do it this: If you want these extensions
> for your plane, I'm only planning to have one run made up, so get them
> now. Let me know by Wednesday night, and Thursday a.m. I'll order
> them from the machining company and get the hardware on it's
> way to me. They need to get the aluminum stock, so there will be
> a small delay before they start making them.
> You do not need to send payment right away...Yes, I know, that's
> stupid, but I'm planning to write a check for well over $1000 to
> cover the production, but only if the buyers are willing to commit
> to paying for them.
>
> What you'll get:
> 1 PAIR of Axle entensions, all drilled and tapped, 3-3/8" long so
> they don't require the large flat washer. They should directly
> replace the original part. You'll also get (3) AN5-6A bolts,
> so you have one as a spare, for bolting them to the axle nut.
> You'll also get (3) MS24693C298 screws for the outer ends, that
> will be 1/4" longer than original so they don't back out and fall
> off as easily (mine almost came out...use loctite!) And, I'm
> going to send you (3) MS24665-292 cotter pins, and (3)
> MS24665-362 cotter pins, so you have all of the hardware required
> to attach them.
>
> Your job: Drill your existing holes on the axle nuts out to 5/16"
> and deburr (I deburred mine today because I miss all the deburring
> so much ;) ) Then assemble the AN5 bolt/washer to the extension and
> torque. Then, use a #40 drill through the guide hole and drill
> out the hole and the bolt to #40. Pin them together with the small
> cotter pins, install the axle nuts and pin with the large pins.
> Then secure the fairing with the 1/4" stainless machine screw.
>
> Since this is something I'm not doing for profit, I'm going to
> make it easy on myself. They'll all be picked up at the same
> time, and I'll throw them all into USPS Priority mail at the
> same time. I'll split the costs of everything evenly, and round
> any costs up to the next highest dollar. When all is said and
> done, I'll tell you if the total with shipping is any higher than
> my expectations...which would be between $45 and $55 per pair,
> all complete to your door with the hardware.
>
> One exception: Since this isn't for-profit in any way, I'm going
> to make it easy on myself and limit it to the US continental 48
> states only so I can use USPS Priority mail.
>
> Again, I'll only be doing this group order one time, so if you want
> them, now's the time. After this order, if for some reason I'm
> crazy enough to do it again, I'd add on extra cost for the time, and
> it might be harder to get a good list of people together to keep
> the price down. If for some reason we can't get 10 people for
> this order, I won't bother, but my gut feeling is that we'll probably
> easily make the 20 pair (quantity 40) level. I just want to do this
> because after installing them I know they worked well for me, and
> it'll keep you all from spending a fortune on one-offs from your
> local machinist. In the spirit of "no up front money" that
> we have today, you can send your payment either via paypal
> or by check after you get them. I know everyone will pay up, because
> we're all nice people and if you don't, I'll tell the list on you. ;)
> If you pay by paypal though, add a little to cover the fees that
> they charge. Tips are not required, but will be accepted if you're
> just so happy after getting them that you really want to. ;)
>
> If the price for any reason looks like it'll be over $60, I will not
> proceed without contacting everyone who got on the list first.
>
> Email me at my email address if you want to get on the list.
>
> --
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD -
> ==============================================http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List<=======================nbsp;
> title=http://forums.matronics.com/
> href="http://fo=======================================================
>
>
>
> *
>
>
> *
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| From: | "John Dunne" <acs(at)acspropeller.com.au> |
Had a lot of fun over the long weekend and managed about 20 or so hours,
filing, sanding, cutting, shaping and installing the doors and rear windows.
However as I filed, sanded and bevelled the edges down, I started noticing
splits or places where the glue hadn't joined in some spots. Having
installed the inner and outer shells as one unit on the cabin cover during
the gluing process, I did notice some slight distortion to the outer edges
when trying to apply pressure to keep both halves together and in contact
but I can't say I noticed any problems with the mating of the shell halves
on the bench.
As both doors ended up with similar problems, I can only say I didn't get
enough down pressure on the outer shell edges once positioned in the cabin
cover doorway.
Where I could, I re-glued but rather than trying to force the shells
together where they wouldn't stretch easily; I made some thin fibreglass
shims and glued those into any voids.
Worked well and can now be filed down to shape again.
Just something for those yet to do this step, in order to save a bit of time
and grief..
John 40315
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| Subject: | Re: How does this tank test kit work? |
| From: | "Michael Wellenzohn" <michael(at)wellenzohn.net> |
Thank you Michael & Anh, I am just wondering why they sell it this way? Anyway
I'll go the alternative route.
Thanks for the fast replys
Michael
http://www.wellenzohn.net
--------
RV-10 builder (wings)
#511
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=91236#91236
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| From: | "Henkjan van der Zouw" <henkjan(at)zme.nl> |
| Subject: | How does this tank test kit work? |
Hi Michael,
I just tested my left tank last night using the test kit, look at:
http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=phzme&project=1&categ
ory=0&log=27411&row=1
#40355
Henkjan van der Zouw
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] Namens Michael Wellenzohn
Verzonden: zondag 28 januari 2007 21:02
Aan: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Onderwerp: RV10-List: How does this tank test kit work?
Hello I purchased Vans tank test kit but how should this fuel feed cover
is supposed to work? Am I missing something here?
Regards
Michael
--------
RV-10 builder (wings)
#511
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=91096#91096
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20070128_wings_01_503.jpg
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| From: | "Henkjan van der Zouw" <henkjan(at)zme.nl> |
| Subject: | How does this tank test kit work? |
Why is it useless? I used it on both tanks recently
Henkjan van der Zouw
40355
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] Namens RV Builder (Michael
Sausen)
Verzonden: maandag 29 januari 2007 0:54
Aan: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Onderwerp: RE: RV10-List: How does this tank test kit work?
Unfortunately, almost everything in that kit is useless and doesn't
apply to the -10. You will have to improvise most of it.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Limbo
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Wellenzohn
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 2:02 PM
Subject: RV10-List: How does this tank test kit work?
Hello I purchased Vans tank test kit but how should this fuel feed cover
is supposed to work? Am I missing something here?
Regards
Michael
--------
RV-10 builder (wings)
#511
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=91096#91096
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/20070128_wings_01_503.jpg
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 Axle Extension Group Order - Reply by Wednesday p.m. |
| From: | "Hans-Dieter Aue" <Hans.Dieter.Aue(at)gmail.com> |
Yes Tim,
add me to the list.
Since I'm located in Germany I will try to arrange a delivery spot in US. I will
tell you a shipping address soon.
Thanks for doing this.
Hans-Dieter Aue
Germany
40424
N110GH (reserved)
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=91242#91242
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| Subject: | RE: RV10-List Digest: 24 Msgs - 01/26/07 |
| From: | "Snow, Daniel A." <Daniel.Snow(at)wancdf.com> |
At the recommendation of someone else, I sprayed them with a couple
coats of clear.
From: Deems Davis <deemsdavis(at)cox.net>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Lettering for Panels
Dan, How is the lettering protected from scratching/abrasion? Did you
seal the letters with anything (clearcoat?) This looks like an excellent
option,
Deems Davis # 406
Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! )
http://deemsrv10.com/
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 Axle Extension Group Order - Reply by Wednesday p.m. |
| From: | "Jim & Julie Wade" <jwade(at)msdeltawireless.com> |
Us Too!!! One set.
40383
N369JW
60Hrs
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=91258#91258
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| Subject: | Re: How does this tank test kit work? |
| From: | "reubanks" <reubanks1(at)sbcglobal.net> |
Couldnt view your URL you posted. Below is the error:
Henkjan's Van's RV10 PH-ZME
RV10
All
Notice: Undefined variable: log_date in /home/content/a/e/r/aeroware2/html/users/display_log.php
on line 174
Notice: strtotime(): Called with empty time parameter in /home/content/a/e/r/aeroware2/html/users/templates/library/chart_functions.php
on line 28
1-29-2007
Unable to find a work log with the specified id or no id was specified.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=91266#91266
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| Subject: | RV-10 Axle Extension Group Order - Reply by Wednesday p.m. |
| From: | "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" <Ray.R.Doerr(at)sprint.com> |
Thanks Tim, I will take one set for up to $60.
Thank You
Ray Doerr
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 6:41 PM
Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 Axle Extension Group Order - Reply by Wednesday p.m.
Good news, everyone...
Today I installed the axle extensions that my friend made from my
drawing and they worked out perfectly. I have some photos from
the install posted here:
http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20070118/index.html#Installation_of_new_extensions
Now that I know they work, I'm going to do something stupid and
since some people found high machining costs, I'm going to coordinate
a group order for extensions that look like these. I had at least
2 quotes come back with costs significantly lower than what other people
were saying. My earlier drawing might actually be more expensive to
make than the final product drawing too. I'll have to re-quote it to
see if pricing will be any lower.
My present quote that I'd go on was: $17.75ea @ quantity 40 and
$24.50ea @ quantity 20. (20 pairs and 10 pairs respectively)
Now, what I'm going to do it this: If you want these extensions
for your plane, I'm only planning to have one run made up, so get them
now. Let me know by Wednesday night, and Thursday a.m. I'll order
them from the machining company and get the hardware on it's
way to me. They need to get the aluminum stock, so there will be
a small delay before they start making them.
You do not need to send payment right away...Yes, I know, that's
stupid, but I'm planning to write a check for well over $1000 to
cover the production, but only if the buyers are willing to commit
to paying for them.
What you'll get:
1 PAIR of Axle entensions, all drilled and tapped, 3-3/8" long so
they don't require the large flat washer. They should directly
replace the original part. You'll also get (3) AN5-6A bolts,
so you have one as a spare, for bolting them to the axle nut.
You'll also get (3) MS24693C298 screws for the outer ends, that
will be 1/4" longer than original so they don't back out and fall
off as easily (mine almost came out...use loctite!) And, I'm
going to send you (3) MS24665-292 cotter pins, and (3)
MS24665-362 cotter pins, so you have all of the hardware required
to attach them.
Your job: Drill your existing holes on the axle nuts out to 5/16"
and deburr (I deburred mine today because I miss all the deburring
so much ;) ) Then assemble the AN5 bolt/washer to the extension and
torque. Then, use a #40 drill through the guide hole and drill
out the hole and the bolt to #40. Pin them together with the small
cotter pins, install the axle nuts and pin with the large pins.
Then secure the fairing with the 1/4" stainless machine screw.
Since this is something I'm not doing for profit, I'm going to
make it easy on myself. They'll all be picked up at the same
time, and I'll throw them all into USPS Priority mail at the
same time. I'll split the costs of everything evenly, and round
any costs up to the next highest dollar. When all is said and
done, I'll tell you if the total with shipping is any higher than
my expectations...which would be between $45 and $55 per pair,
all complete to your door with the hardware.
One exception: Since this isn't for-profit in any way, I'm going
to make it easy on myself and limit it to the US continental 48
states only so I can use USPS Priority mail.
Again, I'll only be doing this group order one time, so if you want
them, now's the time. After this order, if for some reason I'm
crazy enough to do it again, I'd add on extra cost for the time, and
it might be harder to get a good list of people together to keep
the price down. If for some reason we can't get 10 people for
this order, I won't bother, but my gut feeling is that we'll probably
easily make the 20 pair (quantity 40) level. I just want to do this
because after installing them I know they worked well for me, and
it'll keep you all from spending a fortune on one-offs from your
local machinist. In the spirit of "no up front money" that
we have today, you can send your payment either via paypal
or by check after you get them. I know everyone will pay up, because
we're all nice people and if you don't, I'll tell the list on you. ;)
If you pay by paypal though, add a little to cover the fees that
they charge. Tips are not required, but will be accepted if you're
just so happy after getting them that you really want to. ;)
If the price for any reason looks like it'll be over $60, I will not
proceed without contacting everyone who got on the list first.
Email me at my email address if you want to get on the list.
--
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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| Subject: | Re: How does this tank test kit work? |
| From: | "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR(at)wernerco.com> |
You need to cut and paste the entire link, as it got truncated.
Dan
N289DT
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of reubanks
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 9:16 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: How does this tank test kit work?
Couldnt view your URL you posted. Below is the error:
Henkjan's Van's RV10 PH-ZME
RV10
All
Notice: Undefined variable: log_date in
/home/content/a/e/r/aeroware2/html/users/display_log.php on line 174
Notice: strtotime(): Called with empty time parameter in
/home/content/a/e/r/aeroware2/html/users/templates/library/chart_functio
ns.php on line 28
1-29-2007
Unable to find a work log with the specified id or no id was specified.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=91266#91266
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| From: | "Henkjan van der Zouw" <henkjan(at)zme.nl> |
| Subject: | Re: How does this tank test kit work? |
http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=phzme&project=1&categ
ory=0&log=27411&row=1
I'm no computer wizz, look at www.zme.nl, click at the kitlog logo, it's
the last entry at the log
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] Namens reubanks
Verzonden: maandag 29 januari 2007 15:16
Aan: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Onderwerp: RV10-List: Re: How does this tank test kit work?
Couldnt view your URL you posted. Below is the error:
Henkjan's Van's RV10 PH-ZME
RV10
All
Notice: Undefined variable: log_date in
/home/content/a/e/r/aeroware2/html/users/display_log.php on line 174
Notice: strtotime(): Called with empty time parameter in
/home/content/a/e/r/aeroware2/html/users/templates/library/chart_functio
ns.php on line 28
1-29-2007
Unable to find a work log with the specified id or no id was specified.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=91266#91266
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| From: | Werner Schneider <glastar(at)gmx.net> |
| Subject: | Re: How does this tank test kit work? URL truncated |
simply, put always the link between <> then it's not truncated :o)
Henkjan van der Zouw wrote:
>
> http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=phzme&project=1&categ
> ory=0&log=27411&row=1
>
> I'm no computer wizz, look at www.zme.nl, click at the kitlog logo, it's
> the last entry at the log
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] Namens reubanks
> Verzonden: maandag 29 januari 2007 15:16
> Aan: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
> Onderwerp: RV10-List: Re: How does this tank test kit work?
>
>
> Couldnt view your URL you posted. Below is the error:
>
> Henkjan's Van's RV10 PH-ZME
> RV10
>
> All
>
>
> Notice: Undefined variable: log_date in
> /home/content/a/e/r/aeroware2/html/users/display_log.php on line 174
>
> Notice: strtotime(): Called with empty time parameter in
> /home/content/a/e/r/aeroware2/html/users/templates/library/chart_functio
> ns.php on line 28
> 1-29-2007
>
>
> Unable to find a work log with the specified id or no id was specified.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=91266#91266
>
>
>
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| From: | John Ackerman <johnag5b(at)cableone.net> |
| Subject: | Baggage door channel |
"The book" has you machine countersink the upper baggage door seal
channel for the platenut attach rivets, but it's very thin (0.025, I
think). I tried to squeeze a dimple in there with the separated dies
from my pop-rivet dimple, and just messed it up. Countersinking was
worse - when I tried to get deep enough, I enlarged the hole.
Here's an approach that works:
Drill #40 the rivet holes as instructed, but continue all the way
through the back of the piece. Enlarge the holes in the back to 9/64"
to pass the nail head of the pop rivet dimpler. Insert the nail a
little way, slip on the female die, and continue as usual.
FWIW
John Ackerman
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| Subject: | Re: How does this tank test kit work? |
| From: | "Michael Wellenzohn" <michael(at)wellenzohn.net> |
Sorry but I only had one valve, the blue cap and a description in my kit and thats
ist. I wonder how you fit this to the standard fuel finger without additional
hardware.
Thanks
Michael
--------
RV-10 builder (wings)
#511
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=91298#91298
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| From: | "Michael Wellenzohn" <michael(at)wellenzohn.net> |
Ok, if Europe is possible too please add me to the list as well!
Michael Wellenzohn (Switzerland)
LloydDR(at)wernerco.com wrote:
> Tim for everyone in Europe and further East I will help with the
> packaging and sending. Just send me the list of people and I will make
> sure it gets out to them. I think there was one from Germany, and I do
> not know how many others, but I can help.
>
> Dan
> N289DT
>
> --
--------
RV-10 builder (wings)
#511
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=91299#91299
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| From: | MauleDriver <MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: RV-10 Axle Extension Group Order - Reply by Wednesday |
p.m.
Thanks Tim. Mauledriver will take one.
Bill "finally closed up the trim tabs and riveting the tailcone" Watson
Tim Olson wrote:
>
> Good news, everyone...
>
> Today I installed the axle extensions that my friend made from my
> drawing and they worked out perfectly. I have some photos from
> the install posted here:
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| From: | "John Hasbrouck" <jhasbrouck(at)woh.rr.com> |
Hey Tim,
When you get a price fot the axle extensions nailed down, let us know.
I'll send you my check ASAP. No need for you to hang your but on the line
financially.
John Hasbrouck
#40264
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| From: | "John Hasbrouck" <jhasbrouck(at)woh.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: forward closeout panel???????????????????? |
John,
I think Van's sells a closout panel for this area in the wiring harness
kit. Others can correct me if I'm wrong.
John Hasbrouck
#40264
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| From: | "Rene Felker" <rene(at)felker.com> |
| Subject: | forward closeout panel???????????????????? |
You only get the left side....at least that is all I got. The directions
say to run the wires up and around on the right side. For me it does not
matter since I got the interior done by Abbey, but I put the left side panel
in anyway.
Rene' Felker
40322
N423CF
801-721-6080
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hasbrouck
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: forward closeout panel????????????????????
John,
I think Van's sells a closout panel for this area in the wiring harness
kit. Others can correct me if I'm wrong.
John Hasbrouck
#40264
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| From: | Rob Kermanj <flysrv10(at)gmail.com> |
Hello Deems, Can you contact me off the list or email me a phone
number? I would like to talk to you regarding OP Technologies.
Thanks, Rob.
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| From: | GRANSCOTT(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Tim's good deed |
In a message dated 1/29/07 1:02:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
jhasbrouck(at)woh.rr.com writes:
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Hasbrouck"
Hey Tim,
When you get a price fot the axle extensions nailed down, let us know.
I'll send you my check ASAP. No need for you to hang your but on the line
financially.
Tim let us know what the total estimated costs will be not only for the part
but the S&H...could be as much as the parts themselves?
P
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| From: | Shawn Moon <moons1999(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Countersink W-1006E? |
I have a quick question about the "extra hole" referenced on page 13-2 in t
he W-1006E part. Should this hole be countersunk? I could not find anythi
ng in a future section of the wing assembly that indicates that a rivet wil
l be going there. Is there another purpose for the hole or is it simply to
orientate the part as described on 13-2? Thanks in advance.=0A=0A--Shawn
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| From: | James Hein <n8vim(at)arrl.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Countersink W-1006E? |
Doesn't matter; Nothing goes in that hole. I'd deburr it, but otherwise
its not used for anything.
-Jim 40384
Shawn Moon wrote:
> I have a quick question about the "extra hole" referenced on page 13-2
> in the W-1006E part. Should this hole be countersunk? I could not
> find anything in a future section of the wing assembly that indicates
> that a rivet will be going there. Is there another purpose for the
> hole or is it simply to orientate the part as described on 13-2?
> Thanks in advance.
>
> --Shawn
> 40366
>
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| From: | "ddddsp1(at)juno.com" <ddddsp1(at)juno.com> |
Tim,
I want a set. I also want to be #100 before JC contacts you. Will sen
d address info later but it is on the builders list.
Thanks,
DEAN
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I want a set. I also want to be #100 before JC contacts you.&nb
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Thanks,
DEAN
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