RV10-Archive.digest.vol-gq
July 22, 2010 - July 25, 2010
RV10-Archive.digest.vol-gq
July 22, 2010 - July 25, 2010
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Date: Jul 22, 2010
From: WALTER FULLER <w_fuller1(at)verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Retaining Mcmaster carr door seal in place]
Thank you Fred. The McMaster carr seals look like the way to go. We too thr
ew =0Aaway the Van's seals right from the start. Ended up buying 25 feet of
seal for =0Aabout 200.00 and glued it too the fabric covering the doors. B
ad move...that too =0Ahad to be removed as the doors would'nt quite close p
roperly. The doors are on =0Athe plane and fit pretty well...but with no se
al yet! I hope we can retro fit =0Athe seals as you did. I'm sure we will e
nd up having to remove-most of the =0Agutter also. We actually fit and mo
unted the doors about 5 months ago. But after =0Athe seal issue, decided to
move on and-hope to find a decent seal eventually. =0A=0A=0AThe build is
coming along-well otherwise. Glass is in, interior-is in (Abby did =0A
a great job by the way...FLI ), engine and exhaust are on and we have most
of =0Athe instruments wired.-Hoping to fly her to Sun-N-fun next spring..
.=0AAnd hoping the trip is'nt too noisy :)=0A=0AThank you for the links and
the info...I may call on you again if I may.=0A=0ACraig and Walt Fuller-
=0AN420CF=0A=0A-=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: "Fre
d Williams, M.D." =0ATo: Walt Fuller ; rv10-list(at)matronics.com=0ASent: Thu, July 22, 2010 11:51:43 A
M=0ASubject: [Fwd: Re: RV10-List: Retaining Mcmaster carr door seal in plac
e]=0A=0AWalt; =0AI copied the note from yesterday regarding the door fit.
- The write up contained =0Ais probably the best I've seen so far.- I m
ade several mistakes before I finally =0Awent with the McMaster seals.- I
don't know where you are in the build, but =0Athrow away the Van's ones.
- I also had a set from another vendor that stuck on =0A,- they didn't
work well either.- Ended up going back and retro fitting the =0AMcMaster
seals.- Best ones yet.- Make sure you have them when you go to fit the
=0Adoor.- You basically have to remove most of the gutter and I had to dr
op my top =0Alip by about 1/4 inch to get everything to fit.- It can be d
one and the later =0Ainstallations have some of the best and slickest work
I've seen. =0A=0AEmail/call if you have questions. Do a search on the matro
nics list. =0AFred Williams=0AN515FW=0A250 hrs=0ASee you at Osh.-
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Subject: Re: Door Seals
From: "Walt Fuller" <w_fuller1(at)verizon.net>
Date: Jul 22, 2010
Thank you Les. I missed the posts somehow on the first go around. Great info on
the posted document. Looks like McMaster Carr seals are the way to go. Will have
to do some retro fitting but will make it work. Thanks again.
Walt Fuller
N420CF
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Date: Jul 23, 2010
From: Bill Mauledriver Watson <MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com>
Subject: OT - eAOPA Real Pilot Story
I don't recommend sharing this with non-pilots without first viewing
yourself. Nice presentation of a compelling story.
Them Beavers are tough!
http://flash.aopa.org/asf/pilotstories/mayday/MaydayatMountMcKinley/
You know, the latest AOPA magazine is pretty good too. Better than
most. First Sport Pilot now AOPA seems to have kicked it up a notch -
on paper and on the Web. Good show.
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From: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey(at)baesystems.com>
Date: Jul 23, 2010
Subject: Re: RV-10 HQ
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Date: Jul 23, 2010
Subject: Re: RV-10 HQ
From: Phillip Perry <philperry9(at)gmail.com>
Sara and I will be leaving Houston in the morning and should be at OSH in
the afternoon. We'll bring our swimsuits and floaties for Landon.
I heard this is the first year they're going to reposition the seaplane base
onto the field. That's going to be pretty cool to see a SeaRey in Aeroshell
square!
See you tomorrow,
Phil
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From: Dave Saylor <dave.saylor.aircrafters(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jul 23, 2010
Subject: Re: RV-10 HQ
If anyone is looking for drier quarters, a friend of ours is renting a house
in town. He has an extra room. More here:
http://appleton.craigslist.org/roo/1857843788.html
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
831-722-9141 Shop
831-750-0284 Cell
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 7:34 AM, Bill Gipson wrote:
> Bob, the Gipson's made it to Iowa City Thursday afternoon as planned. Now
> seems weather into Oshkosh is problematic today and from what I've been
> reading there's plenty of water around the airport. Parking my RV10 is a
> concern as well as pitching a tent at HQ. Since this is our first trip to
> "The Show" any recommendations are welcome.
>
> Choices as we've thought of:
>
> 1. Stay here (Iowa City) until situation clears up.
> 2. Leave plane here and drive up. Tent camp.
> 3. Leave plane here and drive up and find other accommodations.
>
> Bill Gipson
> 281-814-6006
>
>
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Subject: Re: iPhone Apps
From: "rampil" <ira.rampil(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jul 23, 2010
Hi Richard,
Yes you certainly can turn off cell data independently
in an iPhone.
Why bother, when has the FCC sought to investigate
or prosecute cell use in GA.
Ira
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Ira N224XS
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306132#306132
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From: "John Dunne" <acs(at)acspropeller.com.au>
Subject: Flo Scan
Date: Jul 24, 2010
Need some help guys.
Can anyone tell me what the resistance values of a grounded flo-scan unit
are?
I only need the standing resistance values for wire identification reasons
only since I stupidly made them all white when I extended through to the
panel.
I know which is the ground wire.
Any help appreciated as I'm get a zero reading from the flo scan and need to
identify where the problem is.
So far the harness checks out o.k.
John 40315 (Flying)
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Subject: OSH RV-10 (and friends) Cookout
From: "bcondrey" <bob.condrey(at)baesystems.com>
Date: Jul 24, 2010
Tomorrow (Sunday) night we will be having a cookout open to RV-10 builders, flyers
and enthusiasts. Of course, vendors that cater to us are also invited.
Target time is 6:00 in our Camp Scholler location which along 54th street, just
south of Lindbergh. If you're not familiar with the area, Camp Scholler is just
outside the Theater in the Woods gate. We've got an open area with picnic
tables and canopies for shade. Looks like hamburgers, hot dogs, some sides,
etc.
Hope to see you tomorrow. BTW, I ran into John Cox at the gate today and he promised
a case of beer...
Bob
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306179#306179
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Subject: OSH RV-10 (and friends) Cookout
From: John Cox <johnwcox(at)pacificnw.com>
Date: Jul 24, 2010
Cold Beer and 20# of ice to thank the Condreys, Specketers and Olson clan.
It was a friendly swamp today. Come out and test the hospitality.
John Cox
From: bcondrey
Sent: Sat 7/24/2010 7:56 PM
Subject: RV10-List: OSH RV-10 (and friends) Cookout
Tomorrow (Sunday) night we will be having a cookout open to RV-10 builders,
flyers and enthusiasts. Of course, vendors that cater to us are also invi
ted.
Target time is 6:00 in our Camp Scholler location which along 54th street,
just south of Lindbergh. If you're not familiar with the area, Camp Scholl
er is just outside the Theater in the Woods gate. We've got an open area w
ith picnic tables and canopies for shade. Looks like hamburgers, hot dogs,
some sides, etc.
Hope to see you tomorrow. BTW, I ran into John Cox at the gate today and h
e promised a case of beer...
Bob
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From: "ddddsp1(at)juno.com" <ddddsp1(at)juno.com>
Date: Jul 25, 2010
Subject: Re: OSH RV-10 (and friends) Cookout
Cmon BOB..................dont tease us with a tall tale that John Cox p
romised you beer..............is that after he gets his RV10 built? J
K John...............be there with Deems Davis around 2 tomorrow.
Clear Skies
DEAN
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Subject: Dynon Skyview Autopilot in RV10
Date: Jul 25, 2010
From: "Russell Ford" <rford(at)rrapl.com>
Has anyone had experience or knowledge of how the Dynon Skyview system
works as an autopilot in an RV10? I know these systems are reasonably
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Subject: OSH RV-10 (and friends) Cookout
From: John Cox <johnwcox(at)pacificnw.com>
Date: Jul 25, 2010
The beer will be there long before my RV-10 is done. All of you know that
- damn it!.
The mentoring of kids with the RV-12 build project at VANS is nearly done n
ow. Hana Hou ("the American Nanchang" in Oshkosh - the last five year proj
ect) N43HM is on the ole runway 13-31 with 4-22 at OSH for judging in the W
arbird area. I will let the work on Hana speak to all you damn skeptics fl
ying actual RV-10s built back in my youth. Many of you know that modificat
ions and improvements naturally delay the delivery of an airworthy project.
There is something to be said for Randy not deviating from VANS plans. De
ems, since you got a chance to fly in 88, you might enjoy the stroll down m
emory lane with our latest.
I will be the ole gezzer with the White straw hat and the walker getting ar
ound at the RV10 Headquarters party. The other Nanchangs and Yaks got a re
direct to Manitowok. Keeps the tough competition down.
Promises are the easy part. Delivery takes a little more.
John Cox
From: ddddsp1(at)juno.com
Sent: Sat 7/24/2010 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: OSH RV-10 (and friends) Cookout
Cmon BOB..................dont tease us with a tall tale that John Cox prom
ised you beer..............is that after he gets his RV10 built? JK John
...............be there with Deems Davis around 2 tomorrow.
Clear Skies
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Date: Jul 25, 2010
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Re: Instrument Panel Labels
>Hi Matt,
>
>I live in Livermore and I'm building an RV10. I contacted Chris at Everon Graphics
in Livermore about a silkscreen for my instrument panel. He said that he
worked on some labels for you and thought that I might like to follow the same
approach. But I didn't really understand how it worked.
>
>I have heard of an approach in which text is printed on a large sheet of plastic
that is cut to match the outline and cut-outs of the panel. The entire sheet
is adhesively applied to the entire panel. The plastic is available in a choice
of colors; the panel does not get painted.
>
>Alternatively, some builders will have text printed on a sheet of plastic, cut
the sheet into little pieces that are adhesively applied to the panel, and possibly
spray a clear coat. The plastic might have a color, or might be clear.
>
>Can you tell me which approach you used? Are you happy with the results? Any
problems working with Chris (he seems a bit slow to return my phone calls)?
>
>Dave Head
Hi Dave!
Here's my recommendation. Have your completed instrument panel power coated medium-gloss
black. This will give the labels a really good surface to bond too.
I power coated my panel a textured black, and the labels don't like to stick
to that texture nearly as well as a gloss.
Use a good CAD program to layout your instrument panel in 100% exact scale. Be
exact on the placement of instruments and holes. I had my panel CNC cut, so
I already had a CAD diagram to start with that had a very accurate instruemnt
and hole layout.
Take the CAD layout of the instruments and holes, and over lay on a separate layer
all of the silkscreening you want. Use a nice BOLD found. Make sure that
all of your various lettering is all laid out straight using guides in the CAD
program.
Now, print out the whole panel with the labels. If you don't have a wide format
plotter, you can tile the prints and then ScotchTape them together. If you
want, you can email the file and I can plot it out for you and then meet you out
at my hanger sometime.
Using the printout, cut it out, and then tape it to your real panel and sit in
the plane in the normal position. Make sure that you can read all of the labeling
and that it really says what you want it to say. Remember, when you're labeling,
LESS-IS-MORE, so don't get too wordy, but be specific. Also remember
that some instruments may stick out from the panel and might obscure the view
of the label from the normal seating postion.
If you have a stick grip with buttons, you can also add a caricature of the stick
grip with button labels and put this on the panel too. See attached.
Once you're happy with your layout, - and don't be afraid to do a number of iterations
of CAD-Plot-Cut-Fit - output your CAD drawing in a high-resolution PDF.
Use perhaps 2000 dpi or more. You can email this file Chris at Everon Graphics
and he will create the mat-finish label from it directly. Creating the label
is a four layer process and there will be white layer, a black layer, textured
top layer, and a sticky back layer. If you give your power coated panel
to Chris, he will apply the label and cut out all the holes for you. That will
cost extra, however. Chris did a very nice job on my panel and I would recommend
it.
You can also create CAD drawings for all the other little labels around the plane.
I made labels for the cabin lights, alt air, cabin heat, etc. Chris has
a nice die cut machine for cutting out these rectangular sized labels.
Chris can also do full-color labels as well. These cost quite a bit more, but
would be really cool. I just didn't have anything that really screamed out color,
so I went with the black-n-white, in keeping with the rest of my interior.
Matt Dralle
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