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October 25, 2023 - Present
used now.
The Odyssey 680 apparently has a bad batch being sold. When I mentioned my
problem a hangar mate said that he knew at least two others.
David McNeill
2008 N46007 1700 hours
Virus-free.www.avast.com
<#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
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| From: | Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com> |
This will get you what you need:
https://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/maintenance/20230111_Lift_Struts/
Just did it this year.
Tim
On 10/25/2023 1:15 PM, dlm wrote:
> Does anyone have the source of the latest and greatest door struts. A
> FBO representative unsolicitedly finishedoff the right door strut. I
> had an Odyssey 680 infantmortalityproblemand was trying to
> diagnose. Without thinking theFBO rep held the door open with a Vise
> Grip tool while I had told my brother in law that I was going to get a
> bungee cord. Needless to say the Vise Grip scarred the strut shaft and
> created a significant leak and collapsed the strut. I have the second
> generation of the strut installed but it was beginning to wear over
> time. Anyone know what is being used now.
>
> The Odyssey 680 apparentlyhas a bad batch being sold. WhenI
> mentioned my problem a hangar mate said that he knew at leasttwo others.
>
> David McNeill
> 2008 N46007 1700 hours
>
>
> Virus-free.www.avast.com
>
>
>
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| From: | Werner Schneider <glastar(at)gmx.net> |
| Subject: | unknow part need help |
Hi there,
I found this part and first thought it might be the F1011 bracket for
the cables, but meanwhile I doubt, the nomination would tell it is in
the fuselage kit included, but referenced it is only in the cabling
instructions.
appreciate your help!
Cheers Werner
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| From: | Thomas Mason <tom(at)twmason.com> |
| Subject: | Re: unknow part need help |
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | PLEASE READ - Matronics Email List 2023 Fund Raiser During |
November!
Dear Listers,
Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operation
and upgrade of the Email List and Fourm Services at Matronics. It's solely through
the Contributions of List members (you) that these Matronics Lists are possible.
You have probably noticed that there are no banner ads or pop-up windows on any of the Matronics Lists or related web sites such as the Forums site http://forums.matronics.com, or other related pages such as the List Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search , List Browse http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse, etc. This is because I believe in a List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely Airplanes and not about annoying advertisements.
During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every couple of
days reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. I ask for your patience
and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages.
The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all
of the bills associated with running these lists. YOUR personal Contribution
counts!
This year we have a really TERRIFIC line up of free gifts to go along with the
various Contribution levels. There's something for everyone, to be sure.
Please make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods including
using a Credit Card, PayPal, or by Personal Check. All three methods afford
you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying
Contribution amount!!
To make your Contribution, please visit the secure web site:
https://matronics.com/contribution
I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral
support over the years!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
RV-4/RV-6/RV-8 Builder/Rebuilder/Pilot
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists |
Dear Listers,
There is no advertising income to support the Matronics Email Lists and Forums.
The operation is supported 100% by your personal Contributions during the November
Fund Raiser.
Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade
of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution
too!
You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here:
https://matronics.com/contribution
or, you can send a personal check to the following address:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore, CA 94550
Thank you in advance for your generous support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution |
Today!
Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone
that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way
of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Please take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors
(LOC)! As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems
at least as valuable a building / entertainment tool as your typical magazine
subscription!
Assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the
Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your
Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site:
https://matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps
these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about
how the Lists have
helped you!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Dear Listers,
A quick reminder that November is the annual Matronics List Fund Raiser. The Lists
are 100% member supported and all of the operational costs are covered solely
through your Contributions during this time of the year.
*Your* personal Contribution makes a difference and keeps all of the Matronics
Email Lists and Forums completely ad-free.
Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running for another
great year!
Use a credit card or your PayPal account here:
https://matronics.com/contribution
Or, by sending a personal check to:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you in advance!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
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| From: | JEFFREY Wilson <wilson5437(at)MSN.COM> |
You can remove me from your list. Thanks.
Wilson5437(at)msn.com
Sent from my iPad
> On Nov 8, 2023, at 8:36 PM, Matt Dralle wrote:
>
>
> Dear Listers,
>
> A quick reminder that November is the annual Matronics List Fund Raiser. The
Lists are 100% member supported and all of the operational costs are covered
solely through your Contributions during this time of the year.
>
> *Your* personal Contribution makes a difference and keeps all of the Matronics
Email Lists and Forums completely ad-free.
>
> Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running for
another great year!
>
> Use a credit card or your PayPal account here:
>
> https://matronics.com/contribution
>
> Or, by sending a personal check to:
>
> Matronics / Matt Dralle
> 581 Jeannie Way
> Livermore CA 94550
>
> Thank you in advance!
>
> Matt Dralle
> Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
>
>
>
>
>
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists... |
Dear Listers,
Just a reminder that November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution
today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these great
List services!! Pick up a really nice free gift with your qualifying Contribution
too!
The Contribution Site is fast and easy:
https://matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94551-0347
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| Subject: | Re: Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists... |
| From: | David J Fritzsche <dfritz(at)bpgsim.com> |
Dear Matt:
Please remove me from the list. Regrettably I have had to sell my RV10
project.
Regards,
David Fritzsche
On 11/10/2023 2:12 PM, Matt Dralle wrote:
>
> Dear Listers,
>
> Just a reminder that November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Please make a
Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these great
List services!! Pick up a really nice free gift with your qualifying Contribution
too!
>
> The Contribution Site is fast and easy:
>
> https://matronics.com/contribution
>
> or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
>
> Matt Dralle / Matronics
> 581 Jeannie Way
> Livermore CA 94551-0347
>
> Thank you!
>
> Matt Dralle
> Matronics Email List Administrator
>
>
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
David J. Fritzsche
Professor, Retired
Penn State
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [PLEASE READ] Why I Have A Fund Raiser... |
Since the beginning, the Matronics List and Forum experience has been free from
advertising. I have been approached by fair number of vendors wanting to tap
into the large volume of activity across the various lists hosted here, but have
always flatly refused.
Everywhere you go on the Internet these days, a user is pummeled with flashing
banners and videos and ads for crap that they don't want. Yahoo, Google and that
ilk are not "free". The user must constantly endure their barrage of commercialism
thrust into their
face at an ever increasing rate. Enough is enough, and the Lists at Matronics
choose not to succumb to that.
That being said, running a service of this size is not "free". It costs a lot
of money to maintain the hardware, pay for the electricity, Commercial-greade
Internet Connection, air conditioning, maintenance contracts, etc, etc. etc.
I choose to hold a PBS-like
fund raiser each year during the month of November where I simply send out a short
email every other day asking the members to make a small contribution to support
the operation. That being said, that contribution is completely voluntary
and non-compulsory.
Many members choose not to contribute and that's fine.
However, a very modest percentage of the members do choose to make a contribution
and it is that financial support that keeps the Lists running. And that's
it. To my way of thinking, it is a much more pleasant way of maintaining the
Lists and Forums. The other
11 months of the year, you don't see a single advertisement or request for support.
That's refreshing and that is a List and Forum that I want to belong to.
I think other people feel the same way.
Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support these
Lists?
https://matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
USA
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | A List Contribution - It's Your Personal Squelch Button... |
There is an automatic "squelch button" of sorts for the Fund Raiser messages.
Here's how it works... As soon as a List member makes a Contribution through
the Matronics Fund Raiser web site, their email address is automatically added
to this year's Contributor
List and they instantly cease to receive further Fund Raiser messages for the rest
of the month! Its just that simple! :-)
I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support
the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware
and software that are required to run a List Site such as this one. It also goes
to pay for the
commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the huge electric bill to keep
the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered on. I run all of the
Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which allows me to control
and monitor every aspect
of the system for the utmost in reliably and performance. Your personal Contribution
matters because, when combined with other Listers such as yourself, it
pays the bills to keep this site up and running. I accept exactly ZERO advertising
dollars for the
Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand the pop-up ads and all other commercials
that are so prevalent on the Internet these days and I particularly don't want
to have it on my Email List sites.
If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email
Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!!
https://matronics.com/contribution
or, you can send a personal check to the following address:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore, CA 94550
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
[ Note 1: There are certain circumstances where you might still see a Contribution
related message. For example, if someone replies to one of the messages,
when using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum.
The system keys on the
given email address and since most of these are anonymous public access methods,
there is no simple way to filter them. ]
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution |
Today!
Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone
that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way
of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Please take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors
(LOC)! As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems
at least as valuable a building / entertainment tool as your typical magazine
subscription!
Assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the
Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your
Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site:
https://matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps
these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about
how the Lists have
helped you!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just A Few Days Left... |
Dear Listers,
There are just a few days left for this year's List Fund Raiser. If you've been
putting off making a Contribution until the last minute, well, this is it!
The last minute, that is... :-) There are some GREAT new gift selections to choose
from this year. I
personally want at least three of them! There's probably something you can't live
without too! And, best of all it supports your Lists!
Please remember that there isn't any sort of commercial advertising on the Lists
and the *only* means of keeping these Lists running is through your Contributions
during this Fund Raiser.
Please make a Contribution today!
https://matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Coming Soon! |
Dear Listers,
There's just a few more days left in this year's List Fund Raiser and that means
the List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post
a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists.
Its my way of publicly
thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists.
Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists
is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account:
https://matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that
keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment
about how the Lists have
helped you!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser! |
Dear Listers,
It's November 30th and that always means a couple of things. Its my birthday again
- 60! :-) But it also means that it's that last official day of the Matronics
Email List Fund Raiser! If you been thinking about picking up one of those
really nice incentive
gifts now is the time to jump on it!!
If you've been meaning to make a Contribution this month but have been putting
it off for some reason, NOW is the time!
I will be posting the List of Contributors in a few days, so you'll probably want
to be known as a person that supported the Lists!
I want to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution this year in
support of our Lists. It is your generosity that keeps this operation running
and I don't ever forget it.
The List Contribution Web Site is fast and easy. Please support our habit by making
your Contribution right now:
https://matronics.com/contribution
Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
USA
Thank you in advance!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| Subject: | Re: OSH 2012 RV-10 Group Camping |
| From: | "AlmaColeman" <Anningare46(at)superrito.com> |
Group camping is a communal adventure that transforms the great outdoors into a shared haven for friends, family, or like-minded individuals seeking a collective escape. Whether under the vast canopy of stars or nestled within the scenic embrace of nature, group camping fosters camaraderie and a sense of togetherness. As tents are pitched and campfires kindled, the collective effort becomes evident in the shared tasks of cooking, setting up, and the unspoken joy of being surrounded by familiar faces. In the realm of sustainable camping practices, the integration of modern technology becomes essential. A prime example is the utilization of a solar panel charge controller (https://www.bougerv.com/collections/solar-controller), seamlessly weaving eco-consciousness into the fabric of group camping. This device not only harnesses the power of the sun to keep essential gadgets charged but also symbolizes the harmonious coexistence of modern conveniences and the untouched beauty of the natural world, making group camping an immersive and responsible outdoor experience.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=512795#512795
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | 2023 List of Contributors (LOC)... |
Dear Listers,
The 2023 Matronics Email List and Forum Fund Raiser officially ended a couple of
weeks ago and it's time that I published this year's List of Contributors.
It is the people on this list that directly make these Email Lists and Forums
possible! Their generous
Contributions keep the servers and Internet connection up and running!
You can still show your support this year and pick up a great gift at the same
time. The Contribution Web Site is fast, easy, and secure:
https://matronics.com/contribution
Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
And finally, I'm proud to present The 2023 Fund Raiser List of Contributors:
https://matronics.com/loc
Thank you again to everyone that made a Contribution this year!!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List & Forum Administrator
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| From: | dlm <dlm34077(at)gmail.com> |
I have a problem with the xbow ahrs with my chelton system. It seems to be
temperature related. It may be the heater. On cold mornings (yes we do have
cold 30F in Arizona) it seems to take about 15 minutes to lock on. The
internal GPS and displays work normally but the attitude function takes
considerable time to function normally. Anyone repair these units? my phone
is four 8 zero 28 six two 85 nine.
David McNeill N46007
RV10 1700 hours
Virus-free.www.avast.com
<#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
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| From: | Bob Leffler <bob(at)thelefflers.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Crossbow AHRS |
Where in Arizona are you located? I=92ll be moving out to Surprise in a f
ew months. I=92m having a heck of time trying to find someplace to park my
RV-10 in the valley.
Get Outlook for iOS
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com <owner-rv10-list-server@matronic
s.com> on behalf of dlm
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2024 3:38:39 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Crossbow AHRS
I have a problem with the xbow ahrs with my chelton system. It seems to be
temperature related. It may be the heater. On cold mornings (yes we do have
cold 30F in Arizona) it seems to take about 15 minutes to lock on. The int
ernal GPS and displays work normally but the attitude function takes consid
erable time to function normally. Anyone repair these units? my phone is fo
ur 8 zero 28 six two 85 nine.
David McNeill N46007
RV10 1700 hours
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nge-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif]
Virus-free.www.avast.com
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| Subject: | Re: Crossbow AHRS |
| From: | Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com> |
David is at Falcon Field in Mesa. The nearest to Surprise is Glendale
which may or may not have some hangar space. I am at Chandler which has
about a 15 yr wait list for city-owned hangar or ridiculously priced
private hangars that are usually available within 6 months. KDVT is a
common alternative but has a 2-3 yr wait list for small hangars.
The Chelton system is very old by now, and is not supported to any extent.
Kelly - N171CK
On 1/14/2024 1:56 PM, Bob Leffler wrote:
> Where in Arizona are you located? Ill be moving out to Surprise in
> a few months. Im having a heck of time trying to find someplace to
> park my RV-10 in the valley.
>
> Get Outlook for iOS
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
> on behalf of dlm
>
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 14, 2024 3:38:39 PM
> *To:* rv10-list(at)matronics.com
> *Subject:* RV10-List: Crossbow AHRS
> I have a problem with the xbow ahrs with my chelton system. It seems
> to be temperature related. It may be the heater. On cold mornings (yes
> we do have cold 30F in Arizona) it seems to take about 15 minutes to
> lock on. The internal GPS and displays work normally but the attitude
> function takes considerable time to function normally. Anyone repair
> these units? my phone is four 8 zero 28 six two 85 nine.
>
> David McNeill N46007
> RV10 1700 hours
>
>
> Virus-free.www.avast.com
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Bob Leffler <bob(at)thelefflers.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Crossbow AHRS |
You might try giving Rob Hickman a call. AFS used to used Crossbows, but
the switched to another OEM for a while, and are now using Dynon.
Get Outlook for iOS
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com <owner-rv10-list-server@matronic
s.com> on behalf of dlm
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2024 3:38:39 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Crossbow AHRS
I have a problem with the xbow ahrs with my chelton system. It seems to be
temperature related. It may be the heater. On cold mornings (yes we do have
cold 30F in Arizona) it seems to take about 15 minutes to lock on. The int
ernal GPS and displays work normally but the attitude function takes consid
erable time to function normally. Anyone repair these units? my phone is fo
ur 8 zero 28 six two 85 nine.
David McNeill N46007
RV10 1700 hours
[https://s-install.avcdn.net/ipm/preview/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-ora
nge-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif]
Virus-free.www.avast.com
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Bob Leffler <bob(at)thelefflers.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Crossbow AHRS |
I found one of the chandler hangars for sale. It was almost ast much as my
current home. I may have to grab a snow bird rental for the summer and l
ook for some thin more permanent when I get there. I=92m already on all t
he waiting lists.
Get Outlook for iOS
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com <owner-rv10-list-server@matronic
s.com> on behalf of Kelly McMullen
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2024 4:10:20 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Crossbow AHRS
David is at Falcon Field in Mesa. The nearest to Surprise is Glendale which
may or may not have some hangar space. I am at Chandler which has about a
15 yr wait list for city-owned hangar or ridiculously priced private hangar
s that are usually available within 6 months. KDVT is a common alternative
but has a 2-3 yr wait list for small hangars.
The Chelton system is very old by now, and is not supported to any extent.
Kelly - N171CK
On 1/14/2024 1:56 PM, Bob Leffler wrote:
Where in Arizona are you located? I=92ll be moving out to Surprise in a f
ew months. I=92m having a heck of time trying to find someplace to park my
RV-10 in the valley.
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Subject: RV10-List: Crossbow AHRS
I have a problem with the xbow ahrs with my chelton system. It seems to be
temperature related. It may be the heater. On cold mornings (yes we do have
cold 30F in Arizona) it seems to take about 15 minutes to lock on. The int
ernal GPS and displays work normally but the attitude function takes consid
erable time to function normally. Anyone repair these units? my phone is fo
ur 8 zero 28 six two 85 nine.
David McNeill N46007
RV10 1700 hours
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| Subject: | RV-10 fuel tank vent tube leak resolved |
| From: | "Lew Gallagher" <lewgall(at)charter.net> |
Upon first fuel fill on Grant Smith's RV-10, there was a tiny leak from the vent
tube on the pilot's side. The other end of the vent tube by the filler cap was
above the fuel level. When I researched it I found others that had this problem
with quick build wings. It is due to the flare nut on the inside of the
tank not being tightened enough so that the gas leaks into the vent tube when
that union is under gas level. I found a picture of the tool that others have
used to tighten that nut reaching in through the hole after removing the float
sending unit. I made my own tool and tightened the nut which stopped it some
but not all. Further research showed that someone cut an access hole in the
spar side of the tank, found and fixed a bad flare. I was resigned to eventually
doing something similar when an EAA member, Tim Crouch, remembered how his
RV-9 vent tube was designed - which led to my solution.
I drilled two holes in the fuselage wall in the wing root at the vent tube location,
had a 26" Teflon hose with fittings made, connected one end to the tank
fitting, ran the hose through the first hole in the fuselage, ran the hose up
to the bottom of the door sill between the fuse wall and the interior kick plate,
and back down through the second hole with a 90 elbow which connects to the
original vent tube down through the grommet through the lower wing root faring.
Done. This keeps any leakage at the faulty flare inside the tank from going above
the fuel level since the loop at the top of the interior hose is above the
fuel level in the tank. As fuel is used, air is easily drawn past the faulty
flare until the fuel level is below that flair which then drips back into the
tank.
I'll attach pictures.
Later, - Lew
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| From: | dlm <dlm34077(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | EAA aircraft purchase and sale agreement |
Has anyone had experience using the EAA supplied paperwork? Have there been
updates? any successes or failures with it?
I had a report from a friend who sold his aircraft using it. This is
obviously in addition to the FAA paperwork.
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| From: | Dan Masys <dmasys2(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: EAA aircraft purchase and sale agreement |
Most EAA'ers find that the EAA agreement is too restrictive, and buyers
choke at things like:
"Purchaser agrees that Purchaser shall not make any modification to
Aircraft and agrees not to use or exchange any components or accessories of
Aircraft without the written authorization and approval of the FAA,
Aircraft kit manufacturer, Aircraft designer, or any successors or assigns
thereof, whichever is required or necessary."
and
"Purchaser acknowledges that Purchaser has conducted an aircraft title
search or has had the opportunity to conduct an aircraft title search and
is satisfied with the status of the title of Aircraft." which gets morphed
to something like "Seller represents the aircraft as being free and clear
of all liens, claims and encumbrances."
Have sold an RV-7 and an RV-12 using the EAA language as a starting point,
but in both cases the buyers wanted changes to the boilerplate before they
would sign. Most sellers and buyers think the "no modification" clause is
pretty stupid for an experimental aircraft.
Just my $0.02
-Dan Masys
On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 5:36=AFPM dlm wrote:
> Has anyone had experience using the EAA supplied paperwork? Have there
> been updates? any successes or failures with it?
> I had a report from a friend who sold his aircraft using it. This is
> obviously in addition to the FAA paperwork.
>
> David McNeill
>
>
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| From: | Thomas Mason <tom(at)twmason.com> |
| Subject: | Re: EAA aircraft purchase and sale agreement |
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| Subject: | Re: fuel filters |
| From: | "maryAidan" <maryAidan(at)protonmail.com> |
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| Subject: | Re: fuel filters |
| From: | "timothyferriss" <timothyferrissy(at)gmail.com> |
Consulting with experienced builders or forums dedicated to RV-10 construction
might provide valuable insights immaculate grid (https://immaculategrid.io) and
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| From: | dlm <dlm34077(at)gmail.com> |
Does anyone have working when removed unit?
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| From: | dlm <dlm34077(at)gmail.com> |
Just a tiny bit for those RV10 pilots considering a parachute similar to
the Cirrus. I talked to a member of our EAA chapter, and he recently had
his parachute recertified. First, the parachute takes about two weeks to
replace and recertify the Cirrus for flight. During that time the aircraft
is grounded. I asked about the cost. The entirely new parachute and rocket
motor starts the countdown clock of 10 years when it is manufactured. The
cost was $22K and change. I checked the initial cost and recurring cost for
the RV10 version. The initial cost is 16K and a required exchange is $6-8K
but that was their guess since no current product is anywhere near
expiration. Another consideration is that aircraft is totaled after the
lever is pulled; of course one would assume that the airframe was
already toast when the handle is pulled. This also assumes that the
aircraft is safely within the flight envelope for a successful save.
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| From: | Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com> |
It may be more cost effective to buy 4 personal parachutes and then make
everyone wear them
for every flight. ;)
Tim
On 2/13/2024 12:13 PM, dlm wrote:
> Just a tiny bit for those RV10 pilots considering a parachute similar
> to the Cirrus. I talked to a member of our EAA chapter, and he
> recently had his parachute recertified. First, the parachute takes
> about two weeks to replace and recertify the Cirrus for flight. During
> that time the aircraft is grounded. I asked about the cost. The
> entirely new parachute and rocket motor starts the countdownclock of
> 10 years when it is manufactured. The cost was $22K and change. I
> checked the initialcost and recurring cost for the RV10 version. The
> initial cost is 16K and a required exchangeis $6-8K but that was
> their guess since no current product is anywhere near expiration.
> Another consideration is that aircraft istotaled after the lever is
> pulled; of course one would assume that the airframe was alreadytoast
> when the handle is pulled. This also assumes that the aircraft is
> safely within the flight envelopefor a successful save.
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| From: | Thomas Mason <tom(at)twmason.com> |
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| From: | Martin Renschler <m.r.92129(at)gmail.com> |
I am installing a parachute in my RV-10. Details are on the RV-10 Wiki.
The BRS kit manual is incomplete and several of the instructions dimply
don=99t work for the RV-10 (given bracket position are not
possible due to interference with stiffeners, holes collide with ribs,
bolts go into nothing), so small modifications are needed basically at
every step. Should be easier now with the hints.
/Martin
> On Feb 14, 2024, at 7:52 AM, Thomas Mason wrote:
>
> This is an interesting topic, and one that I expect will get more
coverage as RV-10s continue to compete with SR22s.
>
> I=99m building an RV-10 and currently fly a Cirrus SR20, as well
as three spam cans, in a flying club. I appreciate having the chute
available in the Cirrus when I=99m carrying non-pilot passengers.
>
> I=99m not one to get into the parachute wars, but I would love
to have a chute in my RV-10. I decided against it due to the weight and
space tradeoff, as well as the exterior straps. I=99m not flying
yet, but if my intended mission turns out to be just two people and a
dog, I may retrofit it.
>
> I understand that some proportion of Cirruses have been returned to
service after deploying the chute. We have to get our ten-year repack
this fall and I understand that the quote is far less than our reserve
fund =93 something under $15K. The cost depends on the year and
the firing mechanism. Some mechanisms need to be upgraded; some years
require more substantial bodywork after replacement.
>
> The V-speed for our Cirrus chute deployment is 130 knots, but there
have been successful saves at considerably higher speeds than that. =46rom
the COPA website: =9CFour CAPS deployments occurred successfully
at higher speeds, 168, 171, 187, and 190 knots indicated airspeed, and
one deployment failed at an airspeed estimated at over 300 knots
airspeed.=9D
>
> Tom
>
> From: <owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
> on behalf of dlm
>
> Reply-To: "rv10-list(at)matronics.com "
>
> Date: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 at 12:22
> To: "rv10-list(at)matronics.com "
>
> Subject: RV10-List: parachute
>
> Just a tiny bit for those RV10 pilots considering a parachute similar
to the Cirrus. I talked to a member of our EAA chapter, and he recently
had his parachute recertified. First, the parachute takes about two
weeks to replace and recertify the Cirrus for flight. During that time
the aircraft is grounded. I asked about the cost. The entirely new
parachute and rocket motor starts the countdown clock of 10 years when
it is manufactured. The cost was $22K and change. I checked the initial
cost and recurring cost for the RV10 version. The initial cost is 16K
and a required exchange is $6-8K but that was their guess since no
current product is anywhere near expiration. Another consideration is
that aircraft is totaled after the lever is pulled; of course one would
assume that the airframe was already toast when the handle is pulled.
This also assumes that the aircraft is safely within the flight envelope
for a successful save.
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| From: | David Carr <junk(at)dcarr.org> |
Hi Martin,
This is great information, thank you for taking the time to post it. It
sounds like there are a number of "small" issues with the
installation--what would you say is your overall impression of BRS from a
support, engineering, and product quality perspective?
David
On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 10:31=AFAM Martin Renschler <m.r.92129@gmail.
com>
wrote:
> I am installing a parachute in my RV-10. Details are on the RV-10 Wiki.
> The BRS kit manual is incomplete and several of the instructions dimply
> don=99t work for the RV-10 (given bracket position are not possible
due to
> interference with stiffeners, holes collide with ribs, bolts go into
> nothing), so small modifications are needed basically at every step. Shou
ld
> be easier now with the hints.
>
> /Martin
>
>
> On Feb 14, 2024, at 7:52 AM, Thomas Mason wrote:
>
> This is an interesting topic, and one that I expect will get more coverag
e
> as RV-10s continue to compete with SR22s.
>
> I=99m building an RV-10 and currently fly a Cirrus SR20, as well as
three
> spam cans, in a flying club. I appreciate having the chute available in t
he
> Cirrus when I=99m carrying non-pilot passengers.
>
> I=99m not one to get into the parachute wars, but I would love to h
ave a
> chute in my RV-10. I decided against it due to the weight and space
> tradeoff, as well as the exterior straps. I=99m not flying yet, but
if my
> intended mission turns out to be just two people and a dog, I may retrofi
t
> it.
>
> I understand that some proportion of Cirruses have been returned to
> service after deploying the chute. We have to get our ten-year repack thi
s
> fall and I understand that the quote is far less than our reserve fund
=93
> something under $15K. The cost depends on the year and the firing
> mechanism. Some mechanisms need to be upgraded; some years require more
> substantial bodywork after replacement.
>
> The V-speed for our Cirrus chute deployment is 130 knots, but there have
> been successful saves at considerably higher speeds than that. From the
> COPA website: =9CFour CAPS deployments occurred successfully at hig
her
> speeds, 168, 171, 187, and 190 knots indicated airspeed, and one deployme
nt
> failed at an airspeed estimated at over 300 knots airspeed.=9D
>
> Tom
>
> *From: *<owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com> on behalf of dlm <
> dlm34077(at)gmail.com>
> *Reply-To: *"rv10-list(at)matronics.com"
> *Date: *Tuesday, February 13, 2024 at 12:22
> *To: *"rv10-list(at)matronics.com"
> *Subject: *RV10-List: parachute
>
> Just a tiny bit for those RV10 pilots considering a parachute similar to
> the Cirrus. I talked to a member of our EAA chapter, and he recently had
> his parachute recertified. First, the parachute takes about two weeks to
> replace and recertify the Cirrus for flight. During that time the aircraf
t
> is grounded. I asked about the cost. The entirely new parachute and rocke
t
> motor starts the countdown clock of 10 years when it is manufactured. The
> cost was $22K and change. I checked the initial cost and recurring cost f
or
> the RV10 version. The initial cost is 16K and a required exchange is $6-8
K
> but that was their guess since no current product is anywhere near
> expiration. Another consideration is that aircraft is totaled after the
> lever is pulled; of course one would assume that the airframe was
> already toast when the handle is pulled. This also assumes that the
> aircraft is safely within the flight envelope for a successful save.
>
>
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| From: | Martin Renschler <m.r.92129(at)gmail.com> |
Hi David,
I spoke to them at Oshkosh and they were very interested in the
feedback. I pointed them to the Wiki that others and I contribute to,
https://rv10.org/index.php?title=Parachute
https://rv10.org/index.php?title=BRS_Installation_Hints
/
but haven=99t heard anything back other than them asking if I
wanted to be an aftermarket installer for BRS, haha.
One thing I mentioned for example was that all bolts are fully threaded
meaning you have shear load on the thread in the holes. Kind of unusual
in aviation. You wonder what kind of team put this kit together.
/Martin
> On Feb 14, 2024, at 10:25 AM, David Carr wrote:
>
> Hi Martin,
>
> This is great information, thank you for taking the time to post it.
It sounds like there are a number of "small" issues with the
installation--what would you say is your overall impression of BRS from
a support, engineering, and product quality perspective?
>
> David
>
> On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 10:31=AFAM Martin Renschler
> wrote:
> I am installing a parachute in my RV-10. Details are on the RV-10
Wiki. The BRS kit manual is incomplete and several of the instructions
dimply don=99t work for the RV-10 (given bracket position are not
possible due to interference with stiffeners, holes collide with ribs,
bolts go into nothing), so small modifications are needed basically at
every step. Should be easier now with the hints.
>
> /Martin
>
>
>> On Feb 14, 2024, at 7:52 AM, Thomas Mason > wrote:
>>
>> This is an interesting topic, and one that I expect will get more
coverage as RV-10s continue to compete with SR22s.
>>
>> I=99m building an RV-10 and currently fly a Cirrus SR20, as
well as three spam cans, in a flying club. I appreciate having the chute
available in the Cirrus when I=99m carrying non-pilot passengers.
>>
>> I=99m not one to get into the parachute wars, but I would love
to have a chute in my RV-10. I decided against it due to the weight and
space tradeoff, as well as the exterior straps. I=99m not flying
yet, but if my intended mission turns out to be just two people and a
dog, I may retrofit it.
>>
>> I understand that some proportion of Cirruses have been returned to
service after deploying the chute. We have to get our ten-year repack
this fall and I understand that the quote is far less than our reserve
fund =93 something under $15K. The cost depends on the year and
the firing mechanism. Some mechanisms need to be upgraded; some years
require more substantial bodywork after replacement.
>>
>> The V-speed for our Cirrus chute deployment is 130 knots, but there
have been successful saves at considerably higher speeds than that. =46rom
the COPA website: =9CFour CAPS deployments occurred successfully
at higher speeds, 168, 171, 187, and 190 knots indicated airspeed, and
one deployment failed at an airspeed estimated at over 300 knots
airspeed.=9D
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> From: <owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
> on behalf of dlm
>
>> Reply-To: "rv10-list(at)matronics.com "
>
>> Date: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 at 12:22
>> To: "rv10-list(at)matronics.com "
>
>> Subject: RV10-List: parachute
>>
>> Just a tiny bit for those RV10 pilots considering a parachute similar
to the Cirrus. I talked to a member of our EAA chapter, and he recently
had his parachute recertified. First, the parachute takes about two
weeks to replace and recertify the Cirrus for flight. During that time
the aircraft is grounded. I asked about the cost. The entirely new
parachute and rocket motor starts the countdown clock of 10 years when
it is manufactured. The cost was $22K and change. I checked the initial
cost and recurring cost for the RV10 version. The initial cost is 16K
and a required exchange is $6-8K but that was their guess since no
current product is anywhere near expiration. Another consideration is
that aircraft is totaled after the lever is pulled; of course one would
assume that the airframe was already toast when the handle is pulled.
This also assumes that the aircraft is safely within the flight envelope
for a successful save.
>
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| From: | dlm <dlm34077(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | special tool for torquing the prop bolts |
The aft spinner bulkhead prevents using a crow's foot to use the torque
wrench. Has anyone made a special wrench for the task? I found one online
but the asking price of $180 was too steep. Considering making our own for
about half that.
David
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<#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
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| Subject: | Re: special tool for torquing the prop bolts |
| From: | Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com> |
Just get one of these. Works great.
https://antisplataero.com/product/ultimate-propeller-wrench/
Tim
On 3/25/24 7:03 PM, dlm wrote:
> The aft spinner bulkhead prevents using a crow's foot to use the torque
> wrench. Has anyone made a special wrench for the task?I found one
> online but the asking price of $180 was too steep. Considering making
> our own for about half that.
>
> David
>
> Virus-free.www.avast.com
>
> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
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| From: | Rodger Todd <rj_todd(at)yahoo.co.uk> |
| Subject: | VA-141 Plug Size |
Hi,
I've used an additional VA-141 on each of my tanks for use as a return port; does
anyone know what the correct size for an pipe plug fitting should be for this
flange?It seems I might not need the return fuel lines after all as it looks
like Lycoming fitted FM-150 induction to my engine instead of the FM-300 I was
expecting.
With many thanks in anticipation
Rodger40437.
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: VA-141 Plug Size |
| From: | Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com> |
I think but am not 100% sure, that you're looking for a 3/8" NPT plug.
Tim
On 4/13/2024 5:54 AM, Rodger Todd wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've used an additional VA-141 on each of my tanks for use as a return
> port; does anyone know what the correct size for an pipe plug fitting
> should be for this flange?
> It seems I might not need the return fuel lines after all as it looks
> like Lycoming fitted FM-150 induction to my engine instead of the
> FM-300 I was expecting.
>
> With many thanks in anticipation
>
> Rodger
> 40437.
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Phil Perry <philperry9(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: VA-141 Plug Size |
I=99m pretty sure Tim is 100% correct here.
Phil
Sent from my iPhone
> On Apr 18, 2024, at 3:47 PM, Tim Olson wrote:
>
> =EF=BB I think but am not 100% sure, that you're looking for a 3/8" NPT
plug.
> Tim
>
> On 4/13/2024 5:54 AM, Rodger Todd wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've used an additional VA-141 on each of my tanks for use as a return po
rt; does anyone know what the correct size for an pipe plug fitting should b
e for this flange?
>> It seems I might not need the return fuel lines after all as it looks lik
e Lycoming fitted FM-150 induction to my engine instead of the FM-300 I was e
xpecting.
>>
>> With many thanks in anticipation
>>
>> Rodger
>> 40437.
>>
>
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| Subject: | Re: VA-141 Plug Size |
| From: | Werner Schneider <glastar(at)gmx.net> |
Tim is right
the info can be found in the shop
Cheers Werner
On 18.04.2024 22:42, Tim Olson wrote:
> I think but am not 100% sure, that you're looking for a 3/8" NPT plug.
> Tim
>
> On 4/13/2024 5:54 AM, Rodger Todd wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've used an additional VA-141 on each of my tanks for use as a
>> return port; does anyone know what the correct size for an pipe plug
>> fitting should be for this flange?
>> It seems I might not need the return fuel lines after all as it looks
>> like Lycoming fitted FM-150 induction to my engine instead of the
>> FM-300 I was expecting.
>>
>> With many thanks in anticipation
>>
>> Rodger
>> 40437.
>>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Rodger Todd <rj_todd(at)yahoo.co.uk> |
| Subject: | Re: VA-141 Plug Size |
Thanks to you both; Van's confirmed it is indeed 3/8" NPT - it's shown in
the RV-14 instructions.
Rodger
On Friday, 19 April 2024 at 05:15:55 GMT+8, Phil Perry wrote:
I=99m pretty sure Tim is 100% correct here.=C2-
Phil
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 18, 2024, at 3:47 PM, Tim Olson wrote:
=EF=BB
I think but am not 100% sure, that you're looking for a 3/8" NPT plug.
Tim
On 4/13/2024 5:54 AM, Rodger Todd wrote:
Hi,
I've used an additional VA-141 on each of my tanks for use as a return po
rt; does anyone know what the correct size for an pipe plug fitting should
be for this flange? It seems I might not need the return fuel lines after a
ll as it looks like Lycoming fitted FM-150 induction to my engine instead o
f the FM-300 I was expecting.
With many thanks in anticipation
Rodger 40437.
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| Subject: | Re: Full power =?ISO-8859-1?Q?30=C2=B0?= bank stall |
| From: | "AlmaColeman" <Anningare46(at)superrito.com> |
A bank stall refers to a temporary halt or delay in banking operations, often due to technical glitches, regulatory issues, or security concerns. During such instances, customers may face difficulties in accessing their accounts, conducting transactions, or obtaining services. Amidst these challenges, the concept of a proof of funds generator (http://proofofstatement.com/) becomes crucial, serving as a means to verify and authenticate the availability of funds for various financial activities. This tool aids in ensuring transparency and reliability in transactions, offering reassurance to both individuals and institutions involved in financial dealings.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=513478#513478
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| Subject: | Re: Full power =?ISO-8859-1?Q?30=C2=B0?= bank stall |
| From: | "Bob Turner" <bobturner(at)alum.rpi.edu> |
[quote="cooprv7(at)yahoo.com] I'd expect that the low wing would stall first due
to lower airspeed compared to the outer turn wing.
What did you experience?
Thanks
Mike
--------
RV-10 builder (flying, test phase)
#511
Remember stalls are all about angle of attack, not airspeed. IMHO banked stalls
in the -10 are not much different (maybe a bit more abrupt at higher loadings)
than straight and level stalls, as long as you keep the ball centered.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=415139#415139[/quote]
--------
Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=513509#513509
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| Subject: | Re: special tool for torquing the prop bolts |
| From: | "Bob Turner" <bobturner(at)alum.rpi.edu> |
IIRC I just used a double ended wrench, put one end on the prop bolt and a tight
nut-bolt combo in the other end, a torque wrench on the new bolt, calculated
the setting needed.
--------
Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=513510#513510
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| Subject: | Re: Full power =?ISO-8859-1?Q?30=C2=B0?= bank stall |
| From: | "Ceengland" <ceengland7(at)gmail.com> |
I haven't even stayed in any hotels lately, but if you're in a stabilized turn
of any bank, won't the ailerons be neutral? The way I was taught, they're rate
controls; if they're deflected, the bank angle is changing.
--------
Charlie
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=513511#513511
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| From: | Phil Perry <philperry9(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: utf-8?Q?Re:_RV10-List:_Re:_Full_power_30=C2=B0_bank_stall? |
Its probably safe to say there would always be some level of control input into
a constant bank turn..due to the dihedral encouraging the plane to gently return
to a wings level position.
But you are correct, theyre best viewed as a rate of change input.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Apr 24, 2024, at 5:16 PM, Ceengland wrote:
>
>
> I haven't even stayed in any hotels lately, but if you're in a stabilized turn
of any bank, won't the ailerons be neutral? The way I was taught, they're rate
controls; if they're deflected, the bank angle is changing.
>
> --------
> Charlie
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=513511#513511
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Full power =?ISO-8859-1?Q?30=C2=B0?= bank stall |
| From: | "Bob Turner" <bobturner(at)alum.rpi.edu> |
Ceengland wrote:
> I haven't even stayed in any hotels lately, but if you're in a stabilized turn
of any bank, won't the ailerons be neutral? The way I was taught, they're rate
controls; if they're deflected, the bank angle is changing.
Remember that for small bank angles (up to about 45 deg in the -10) the plane is
stable in roll, so a small downward aileron deflection is required on the raised
wing. Beyond about 45 deg, the extra speed on the outside of the turn produces
extra lift (over banking tendancy) and requires some reversed aileron pressure.
--------
Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=513514#513514
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| Subject: | Re: Full power =?ISO-8859-1?Q?30=C2=B0?= bank stall |
| From: | "Bob Turner" <bobturner(at)alum.rpi.edu> |
Ceengland wrote:
> I haven't even stayed in any hotels lately, but if you're in a stabilized turn
of any bank, won't the ailerons be neutral? The way I was taught, they're rate
controls; if they're deflected, the bank angle is changing.
Remember that for small bank angles (up to about 45 deg in the -10) the plane is
stable in roll, so a small downward aileron deflection is required on the raised
wing. Beyond about 45 deg, the extra speed on the outside of the turn produces
extra lift (over banking tendancy) and requires some reversed aileron pressure.
--------
Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=513513#513513
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