RV6-Archive.digest.vol-aa
September 11, 1999 - October 03, 2001
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From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
Subject: | Welcome to the new RV6-List Email List at Matronics! |
Welcome to the new RV6-List Email List at Matronics!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin.
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Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
Subject: | New, RV Model-Specific Email Lists At Matronics! |
rv8-list(at)matronics.com
Dear RV Listers,
A couple of weeks ago I received a request from a fellow (I accidently deleted
his email message - please write me again) who had been running an RV-3 email
list and was wondering if I would be interested in taking it over for him. It
seemed like a good idea and I thought that I would go ahead and create not only
the RV3-specific list, but also one for the RV4, RV6, and RV8 models as well.
Well, you can imagine my surprise when Joe Colontonio announced his new RV-8
email list this week! Anyway, I'm definitely not trying to 'one-up' Joe, but
I wanted to added the model-specific lists to the current RV-List here at
Matronics. The new Lists (RV3-List, RV4-List, RV6-List, and RV8-List) each
have their own digest mode, as well as the traditional Archive Search Engine
access and Archive Browsing capability via the web interface.
Please note that the current RV-List general List still exists and will
continue to co-exist with these new model-specific Lists. I would encourage
everyone to only use the specific Lists for discussions that severely only
relate to the model in question.
You may subscribe to any of the new model-specific Lists at the following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/subscribe
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin.
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Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
Subject: | Two MORE Email Lists at Matronics... |
Dear Listers,
At the request of a couple of members, I have added two more Email Lists to
the Servers here at Matronics. These include:
avionics-list(at)matronics.com
Aircraft Avionics related topics such as Radios, GPSs, VSIs, DMEs, etc.
engines-list(at)matronics.com
Aircraft Engine related topics such as Lycomings, Auto conversions, etc.
As usual, the new lists have full archive searching and browsing capabilities.
You may subscribe to the new lists by using the Web-Based subscription form
at the following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/subscribe
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin.
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Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
rv8-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: | New Specific RV Lists Auto Forwarded to RV-List... |
Hi RV Listers,
I've received quite a few comments about the diluting affect having specific
lists will have on the main RV-List. Also, that archive searching would be
somewhat more difficult.
I've tried something this morning that might solve the problem. What I've
done is automatically forward any messages sent to the RV3-List, RV4-List,
RV6-List, and RV8-List to the main RV-List. This will assure that all
messages will be appended to the RV-List archive, easing the searching task
as well.
What do people think of this solution?
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
PS - I think that I've set it up so that, when a message is cross-posted to
more than one RV-Specific List as I did with this message, only one copy
will be forwarded to the RV-List for general viewing. Hopefully!
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Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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From: | AAMRELECTR(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Sound Damping Tape for Aircraft |
This is from AAMR/AirCore.
There is a new page up on our site. It's can be found on our home page
http://members.aol.com/aamrelectr/index.html
Click Sound Damping Tape. This the same stuff Boeing uses in it's fuselages
to reduce unwanted noise and vibration. We've got a really great price on it.
Regards,
John @AAMR/AirCore
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From: | "Bradley Kidder, Jr." <sparksnmagic(at)earthlink.net> |
Trying to reach Denis Walsh. Denis, if you read this... please email me
back THANKS!
Bradley W. Kidder
sparksnmagic(at)usa.net
http://home.earthlink.net/~sparksnmagic
ICQ 11770815 EAA 574350
RV-6A (empennage)
N188FW (reserved)
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From: | Bobby Hester <bhester(at)apex.net> |
Subject: | Re: RV6-List Digest: 10/17/99 |
RV6-List Digest Server wrote:
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> Total Messages Posted Sun 10/17/99: 0
Just checking to make sure I am setup properly.
Jim Sears and Bentley Floyd are you guy out there? We met at the Bowling Green
Airshow!
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Suring the Web from Hopkinsville, KY
Visit my web site at: http://www.geocities.com/capecanaveral/7373/
And see my Rans S12xl experimental aircraft
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From: | "Lemen, Ted Ce" <ted.ce.lemen(at)lmco.com> |
Subject: | Re: RV6-List Digest: 10/17/99 |
Test was successful.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bobby Hester [SMTP:bhester(at)apex.net]
> Sent: Monday, October 18, 1999 1:32 PM
> To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: RV6-List: Re: RV6-List Digest: 10/17/99
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> RV6-List Digest Server wrote:
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> Just checking to make sure I am setup properly.
> Jim Sears and Bentley Floyd are you guy out there? We met at the Bowling
> Green
> Airshow!
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> --
> Suring the Web from Hopkinsville, KY
> Visit my web site at: http://www.geocities.com/capecanaveral/7373/
> And see my Rans S12xl experimental aircraft
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From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
Subject: | JPI vs. Matronics Settlement Reached... |
Dear Listers,
After seven months of negotiations, JP Instruments, Inc. and Matronics
have reached a mutually agreeable settlement. As most of you are aware,
in February of this year, JP Instruments, Inc. alleged that Matronics'
use of the trademark "FuelScan" with its aircraft fuel management system
infringed upon JP Instruments, Inc's trademark "Scanner" for engine
temperature indicators. JP Instruments, Inc. requested that Matronics
discontinue the use of the "FuelScan" mark. After considerable
negotiations, we have come to an agreement whereby JP Instruments, Inc.
will purchase the FuelScan trademark and, if necessary, assist in paying
the cost of Matronics' adoption of a new trademark. Matronics will
continue to sell and market its aircraft fuel management system under
the FuelScan trademark until a phase-out period of up to one year is
completed. This will allow Matronics time to sell out its current stock
of units marked with the FuelScan trademark and to develop a new
trademark.
While negotiations have been a bit trying at times, I would like to say
that I am satisfied with the outcome, and feel that JP Instruments, Inc.
has treated Matronics and me fairly in this matter. Furthermore, I
would encourage you to consider JP Instruments for your aircraft
avionics in the future as they manufacture an excellent product line.
Finally, I would like to thank everyone from around the world for their
support and consideration in this matter. I was quite moved by the
support - both financial and in the form of letters and comments - that
builders and pilots provided me and my company during this time. I
never felt alone during this period, and so very much appreciated the
encouragement from thousands of my friends! Thank you so very much!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
President, Matronics
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Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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From: | Garry Legare <versadek(at)earthlink.net> |
Subject: | Fuel Cap Engraving |
Earlier today I read the post on fuel cap engraving by Steve Davis. the
price seemed higher than it should be. I remembered that Gary Van Vortel
has engraved caps on his "6a", sooo I looked up who Gary had used in the
Yeller Pages (THANKS GARY):-- Engraphix Corp, 1335 2nd Ave North "Suite
K", Fargo ND 58102. (701)237-6560 and called them. I talked with the
owner Breck, he remembered doing Garys caps and quoted me $10.00 each
plus $5.00 return shipping for both. This price encludes "Enameling"
down in the engraved area in your choice of color. Turn around is
usually a week or less. I guess my caps ( I have three) are going take a
little trip to North Dakota.
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From: | "james small" <james(at)jsmall.flyer.co.uk> |
Subject: | Re: RV6-List Digest: 11/18/99 |
Has anyone fitted a Navaid turn coordinator / wingleveller + Porcine GPS
smart coupler to an RV6?, can you recommend this setup?, are there any plans
or details regarding the fitting of the servo motor?
I am just finishing an RV (just wants painting) and may pick one up at
Sun&Fun if this is considered a worthwhile addition.
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From: | Rich <houndsfour(at)earthlink.net> |
Subject: | Re: RV6-List Digest: 11/18/99 |
HI james
Yes I have a Navaid in my "6". I can recommend the system
and if you install it as shown in the drawings, you should not have
a problem except I to had my plane ready for paint when I installed
the Navaid. It's not hard to do but work slowly and read the
instructions.
I think you will like the unit.
Rich T.
james small wrote:
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> Has anyone fitted a Navaid turn coordinator / wingleveller + Porcine GPS
> smart coupler to an RV6?, can you recommend this setup?, are there any plans
> or details regarding the fitting of the servo motor?
> I am just finishing an RV (just wants painting) and may pick one up at
> Sun&Fun if this is considered a worthwhile addition.
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From: | "Douglas E. Bostard" <dougacft(at)jps.net> |
Subject: | Re: RV6-List Digest: 11/20/99 |
REGARDING NAVAID AUTOPILOT: Based on several recommendations, I bought
one a year ago. When you buy one, they will supply a couple of very
good drawings which show how to mount the servo. I also bought the
coupler. I haven't yet figured out how to hook that up. Also, you have
to build your own harness..which wasn't a big deal. I am finished too
and awaiting inspection and signoff. I have heard of a couple of people
who had to send their unit back for rework, but that was a year or two
ago and I think there have been improvements by the manufacturer since
then. I hope. I asked the manufacturer how to link the tracking to a
Magellan EC10 and they told me to ask Magellan. I don't get that part
nor have I determined how as yet. I am just in heat to fly this thing,
and have all winter to figure out the fine details. Factory support
is very good, I hear. Good luck and happy landings. If and when you do
mount the servo in accordance with the instructions, be
careful...getting a pop rivet tool into the area it needs to go is very
tight...after mounting the platform, I noticed I made some internal to
external dents in the belly skin unwittingly. This while forcing the
rivet tool into tight quarters. If it could be mounted before riveting
on the belly skin, that would be ideal. Or modify to suit.
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From: | "Douglas E. Bostard" <dougacft(at)jps.net> |
Subject: | Re: RV6-List Digest: 11/17/99 |
I'm awaiting inspection/signoff on an RV6A and don't want to placard the
fuel caps yet until I paint next spring. Is the engraving something
like, "100 lowlead only"? Are you aware of the new "O" rings which
won't fit your fuel caps anymore necessitating replacement of the caps,
too? Check with Van's. Apparently, the ones which came with the older
kits require o rings which are no longer available. Throw the baby out
with the bathwater!!!
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From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
Subject: | [Please Read] List Fund Raiser Continues; LOC #1 December 1st! |
Greetings Listers!
Don't forget the 1999 List Fund Raiser is still in progress and there is
still plenty of time to make a Contribution and assure yourself a place
on on the first List Of Contributors (LOC)! I will post the first LOC
on December 1st and it will detail everyone that has generously made a
Contribution so far this year!!
It costs a great deal to maintain the Email and Web server systems and
high-speed Internet connection that provide the Email List services
found here. I won't even mention the many, many hours I spend each week
running the Lists, doing backups, handling subscription requests, and
creating new email and web features and services such as the Archive
Search Engine, and Archive Browser... Whoops; I think I just did! :-)
This year's Fund Raiser started out pretty slow and I was starting to
think that no one appreciated me anymore... ;-) But, in the last week
or so things have really started to pick up! So if you haven't made a
Contribution yet this year, why not join your email List friends and
make a contribution today to support the continued operation of these
Lists!
There are two easy methods for making your Contribution:
* Make a SSL Secure Web Contribution using your Visa or MasterCard,
surf over to:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution.html
* Make a Contribution by check, send US Mail to:
Matronics
c/o Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore, CA 94551
I would like to sincerely thank everyone who has already made a
Contribution so far this year! I greatly appreciate your generosity and
support and want you to know that these Lists have been made possible
directly by *YOU*!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Your Email List Administrator
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Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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From: | Lkyswede(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Re: RV6-List Digest: 11/23/99 |
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From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
Subject: | 1999 List of Contributors #1 and a Special Thank You Message!! |
Dear Listers,
I would like to personally thank each and everyone that has contributed
this year to 1999 List Fund Raiser! As you can see from the list of
names below, there were many, many generous people from the Lists this
time around and I want everyone to know just how much your support has
meant to me. The list of members below includes those that have
contributed during this year's List Fund Raiser as well as those that
have contributed throughout the year and also those that made a donation
to my Legal Defense Fund earlier in the year that was sponsored my our
own Bob Nuckolls of Aero Electric.
I want everyone to know just how much it means to me to receive the type
of financial support for these Lists that I have this year. As the Lists
have grown so much over the last few years, so have the equipment costs
as well as the monthly costs such as the Internet connectivity. Your
generosity during the Fund Raiser and throughout the year, truly makes
the continued operation, and more importantly, the continued upgrade and
improvement of these aviation-related services directly possible. That
is the bottom line. Please accept my most sincere appreciation of the
amazing and, at times, overwhelming generosity of so many of you
wonderful people! Thank you!!
For those of you that didn't quite get your contribution in on time for
this first List of Contributors - be it by check or by credit card - I
will be posting a followup List of Contributors #2 for 1999 in a few
weeks to make sure that I properly acknowledge each and everyone of the
generous List members. One last time, the addresses to make a contribution
are:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or
Matt Dralle
c/o Matronics
PO Box 347
Livermore, CA 94551
Finally, thank you all so much for your support this year both in terms
of the financial contribution but also in the form of the letters and
moral support during what can only be categorized as a very stressful and
unsettling time. And I think you know what I'm referring to... Your
support and encouragement meant more to me than you'll ever know. I felt
as if I had 2500 friends all behind me, and that's a *powerful* force!
Well done one and all! Thank you!
Best regards for the upcoming year.
Your Email List Administrator,
Matt Dralle
RV-4 Builder #1763
=================== 1999 List of Contributors #1 ====================
Abell, John
Acker, Rob
Adams, Bob
Adamson, Larry
Ahamer, Karl
Albachten, Rudy III
Alcazar, Jesus
Allen, Brent
Allison, Steven
Ammeter, John
Amundsen, Blair
Anderson, Edward
Armstrong, Robert
Arnold, James
Aronson, David
Ashford, James
Ashton, Kent
Atkinson, Harold
Baggett, Robert
Baker, Gary
Baker, Ray
Baldwin, James
Barlow, Melvin
Barnes, Thomas
Barnes, Tom
Barnhart, Dave
Barrenechea, Godo
Battles, Brenton
BB Diversified Services, LTD
Bechtel, Amos
Bell, Bruce
Belted Air Power LTD.
Benhan, Dallas
Bennett, Peter
Besing, Paul
Bieber, Mike
Bilodeau, Paul
Bird, Carroll
Blanton, Stan
Bleier, Roger
Blomgren, Jack
Blum, Ronald
Boadright, Kyle
Boardman, Don III
Boatright, Kyle
Boatright, Robert
Bodie, Pete
Bonesteel, Wayne
Booze, Gregory
Borne, Charles
Bourgeois, Rion
Bourne, Larry
Bovan Pe, Vaso
Bowen, Larry
Bowen, Miles
Bower, Bob
Bowhay, Eustace
Bowman, Brian R
Boyd, Rodney
Branscomb, Warren
Bray, Garrett
Brian Lloyd
Brick, John
Bridgham, David
Brogley, Mike
Brooks, Chris
Brooks, John
Brott, Marvin
Brown, Kent
Brown, Scott
Buckwalter, David - Avionics Systems
Burlingame, Ralph
Burnham, Dave
Calhoun, Ronald
Calvert, Jerry
Cantrell, Ken
Capen, Ralph
Cardinal, Gregory
Carey, Christopher
Carr, David
Carter, Jerry
Carter, Ron
Casey, Jeremy
Chapple, Glen
Chesnut, Bruce
Chesnut, William
Christensen, Peter
Christie, William
Churchill, Frank
Ciolino, John
Clabots, Gerald
Clark, Howard
Clark, James
Clary, Buck
Clay, Dennis
Cloughley, Bill
Cole, Ed
Colontonio, Moe
Colucci, Anthoney
Conaway, James
Cook, David Sr.
Cooley, John
Copeland, Forrest
Corder, Michael
Corriveau, Grant
Cotter, Timothy
Cox, Carson
Croby, Harry
Crosley, Richard
Cullen, Chuck
Czinkota, Garnet
Dall, Richard
Daudt, Larry
Davidson, Jeff
Davis, Christopher
Davis, Jared
Davis, Steve - The Panel Pilot
Davis, William
Day, Robert
Deffner, David
Del Peso, Jose
Derrik, Chuck
Desmond, Richard
Devine, Steven
Devlin, John
Dewees, Ron
Dial, J.R.
Dominey, Clifford
Dorsey, Bob
Downing, Jeff
Dubroc, Tommy
Dudley, Richard
Duffy, Russell
Duncan, John
Dunlap, E.T.
Dziewiontkoski, Bob
Eagleston, Ron
Eagleston, Ronald
Eastburn, James
Elder, William
Elhai, Irv
Emrath, Marty
Ensing, Dale
Ervin, Thomas
Erwin, Chip - Czech Aircraft Works
Evans, Monte
Exstrom, Daniel
Faile, David
Farrar, Jeffrey
Farris, Paul
Fetzer, George
Fiedler, Mike
Filucci, Michael - Red Dragon Aviaion
Finch, K
Flaherty, Edward
Floyd, Joseph
Ford, David
Forrest, Gerald
Forsting, Robert
Fortner, Earl
Four Star Products
Frank, Dan
Franz, Carl
Frazier, Vince
Frederick, Mark
French, Edwin
Friedman, Frank
Froehlich, Carl
Fromm, John
Fry, John
Funk, Edwin Jr.
Funnell, Augustus
George, William
Gilbert, Mark
Giusti, Roberto
Glaser, Arthur
Glass, Roy
Glover, Ken
Gold, Andy - Builder's Book Store
Goldberg, Mark
Good, Chris
Gooding, Lawrence
Goolsby, Jim
Gott, Shelby
Goudreault, Jacques
Graham, James Jr.
Grant, Jordan
Griffin, Bill
Griffin, Randy
Groom, Larry
Guillosso, Alain
Hale, Michael
Hales, Sherman
Hall, Bob
Hall, Thomas
Hamer, Steven
Hamilton, Thom
Hamilton, William
Hand, Chris
Hansen, Ronald
Hargis, Merle
Harmon, John
Harper, Malcom
Harrill, Roy
Harris, John
Hart, Daniel
Harvey, Doug
Hassall, J.C.
Hastedt, Margaret
Hatch, Fletcher III
Hatcher, Clive
Hatfield, Cecil
Hays, Wes
Henderson, George
Henderson, Randall
Heritch, Ian
Herndon, Richard
Herren, Bill
Hevern, Jerry
Hiatt, Mark
Hiers, Craig
Hinch, Christopher
Hine, Joe
Hinkley, Curtis
Hinrichsen, James
Hodge, Jack
Hodgson, Bob
Hodson, Frank
Hoffman, Carl
Holcombe, Richard
Horton, Kevin
Hoshowski, Ken
Hrycauk, Dave
Hughes, Robert
Hulen, Fred
Hundley, Richard
Hurd, James
Hurlbut, Steve
Hutcheson, Ken
Ihlenburg, Fred
Ingram, Jim
Irace, Bill
Irwin, Eric
Isler, Jerry
Ivers, James
James, Larry
Janes, Bob
Janicki, Steven
Japundza, Bob
Jeens, Ken
Johannsson, Johann
Johnson, Jackie
Johnson, Stephen
Jones, Bryan
Jones, Rob
Jones, Russ
Jonker, Bill
Jordan, Thomas
Jory, Rick
Kampthorne, Hal
Kayner, Dennis
Keithley, Rick
King, Da Ve
Kirby, Dennis
Kirby, Graham
Kirtland, Charles
Kitz, John
Knezacek, Dan
Knievel, Gerald
Knoll, Bruce
Kosta, Michael
Kowalski, Ed
Krueger, Dan
Krueger, Scott
Kuss, Charlie
Laczko, Frank Sr.
Lamb, Richard
Lane, Kevin
Lassen, Finn
Laurence, Peter
Laverty, Mike
Lawson, John
Leaf, Dave
Lee, John
Lee, Ric
LeGare, Garry
Leggette, Len
Leonard, William
Lerohl, Gaylen
Lervold, Randy
Lewis, Terry
Lewis, Tim
Ligon, Howard
Lind, Laird
Linebaugh, Jeffrey
Loeber, Wayne
Ludeman, Bruce
Lutes, Rick
Mac Donald, Lawrence
MacKay, Alex
Malczynski, Francis
Mandell, Tom
Marino, Anthony
Marion, Chris
Markert, Michael
Marshall, Robert
Martin, Tom
Maxson, Phil
Mazatuad, Mme Hyun Sook
McElhoe, Bruce
McFarlane, Lloyd
McGee, Michael
McHarry, Joe
McHenry, Tedd
McKibben, Gerald
McNamara, Don
Melder, Frank
Melia, Tom
Metzger, Stephen
Meyers, John
Miller, Jim & Dondi - Aircraft Technical Support
Mitchell, Duane
Moen, Craig
Mojzisik, Allan
Molzen, Jason
Mondy, Malia
Moore, Thomas
Moore, Warren
Morelli, Bill
Morelli, William
Morris, Daniel III
Morrison, Mark
Morrow, Dan
Moulin, Roger
Munn, Mike
Murphy, Ray Jr.
Neal, Danny
Nellis, Michael
Nelson, James
Nelson, Jim
Newell, Alan
Nguyen, Thomas
Nice, James
Nicely, Vincent
Norris, Rob
Nowakowski, Donald
Noyer, Robert
Nuckolls, Robert
Olendorf, Scott
Olson, Larry
Olson, Tom
Orear, Jeffrey
Owens, Laird
Palinkas, Gary
Pardue, Larry
Paulson, Craig
Peck, Bill & Kathy
Peer, Michael - Jem Aviation
Peryk, Dennis
Peternel, Stanley
Petersen, Eric
Petersen, Paul
Peterson, Alex
Pflanzer, Randy
Phillips, Mark
Pickrell, Jim
Pike, Richard
Pinneo, George
Pittenger, Dick
Plathey, Claude
Point, Jeff
Polstra, Philip
Porter, Richard
Porter, Robert
Potter, Mark
Pretzsch, Robert
Ragsdale, Bill
Randolph, George
Ransom, Ben
Rathbun, Richard
Reeck, Jay
Reed, Derek
Reed, Frank
Reisdorfer, Mark
Reynolds, Richard
Richardson, Ray - Powersport Aviation Inc.
Riedlinger, Paul
Riley, Stuart
Roach, Brian
Rodgers, Brian
Rosales, Paul
Rowbotham, Charles
Rowles, Les
Rozendaal, Doug
Rutherford, Ted
Sa, Carlos
Sager, Jim
Sailer, Martin
SanClemente, Andrew
Sapp, Doug
Sargent, Tom
Sax, Samuel
Schemmel, Grant
Schippers, John
Schmitt, Clayton
Schneeflock, Robert
Schrimmer, Mark
Schwarz, Guillermo
Selby, Jim - JKL Aviation Sales
Seward, Douglas
Shackleford, Howard
Shafer, Jim
Shank, Bill
Sheets, Douglas
Shenk, Doug
Shepherd, Dallas
Shettel, Maurice
Shipley, Walter
Sigmon, Harvey
Silverstein, Chuck
Sipp, Dick
Slaughter, Mike
Small, Thomas
Smith, Clayton
Smith, Edmund
Smith, Philip
Smith, Shelby
Smithey, Lloyd
Snyder, David
Solecki, John
Sparks, Timothy
Stafford, David
Staub, Skip
Steer, Bill
Stobbe, Bruce
Stoffers, Larry
Stone, James
Strandjord, Eric
Swaney, Mark
Tauch, Eric
Tauchen, Bryan
Taylor, Tod
Team Rocket
Thayer, George
Therrien, Michel
Thistelthwaite, Geoffrey
Thoman, Daniel
Thomas, Lee
Thomas, Tim
Thompson, Michael
Todd, John
Tompkins, Jeff
Tower, John
True, George
Tucker, Harold
Tuton, Beauford
Tyrrel, Charles
Upshur, Bill
Uribe, Guillermo
Uribe, Gullermo
Utterback, Thomas
Van Der Sanden, Gert
Vandervort, Ronald
VanGrunsven, Stanley
Varnes, William
Volum, Peter
Von Ruden, Dennis
VonLindern, Paul
Vosberg, Roy
Waligroski, Gregg
Walker, Tommy
Walrath, Howard
Ward, Ed
Warren, John
Washburn, Oliver
Watson, Dennis
Watson, Terrence
Watson, William
Webb, Randol
Weber, Ed
Weber, Edward
Weller, Michael
Wendel, Jim
Wentzell, David
Werner, Russ
Werner, Russell
Westridge, David
Whelan, Thomas
Whiler, Douglas
Whitehead, Arthur
Wiesel, Dan
Wigney, John
Williams, Jimmy
Williams, Keith
Williams, Lawrence
Willig, Louis
Wills, Mike
Wilson, Billy
Wittman, James
Wood, Denton
Wood, John
Wood, Mark
Worstell, Glen
Worthington, Victor
Wotring, Dale
Wymer, Gerald
Young, Charles
Young, Rollin
Youngblood, Barry
Zeidman, Richard
Zigaitis, Kestutis
Zinkham, Ralph
Zwart, Frank
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From: | Garry Legare <versadek(at)earthlink.net> |
Subject: | Re: 1999 List of Contributors #1 and a Special Thank You Message!! |
Matt, the latest list update is listed as 11/28/99. I've tried reloading etc.
Garry LeGare.
Matt Dralle wrote:
>
> Dear Listers,
>
> I would like to personally thank each and everyone that has contributed
> this year to 1999 List Fund Raiser! As you can see from the list of
> names below, there were many, many generous people from the Lists this
> time around and I want everyone to know just how much your support has
> meant to me. The list of members below includes those that have
> contributed during this year's List Fund Raiser as well as those that
> have contributed throughout the year and also those that made a donation
> to my Legal Defense Fund earlier in the year that was sponsored my our
> own Bob Nuckolls of Aero Electric.
>
> I want everyone to know just how much it means to me to receive the type
> of financial support for these Lists that I have this year. As the Lists
> have grown so much over the last few years, so have the equipment costs
> as well as the monthly costs such as the Internet connectivity. Your
> generosity during the Fund Raiser and throughout the year, truly makes
> the continued operation, and more importantly, the continued upgrade and
> improvement of these aviation-related services directly possible. That
> is the bottom line. Please accept my most sincere appreciation of the
> amazing and, at times, overwhelming generosity of so many of you
> wonderful people! Thank you!!
>
> For those of you that didn't quite get your contribution in on time for
> this first List of Contributors - be it by check or by credit card - I
> will be posting a followup List of Contributors #2 for 1999 in a few
> weeks to make sure that I properly acknowledge each and everyone of the
> generous List members. One last time, the addresses to make a contribution
> are:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
> or
> Matt Dralle
> c/o Matronics
> PO Box 347
> Livermore, CA 94551
>
> Finally, thank you all so much for your support this year both in terms
> of the financial contribution but also in the form of the letters and
> moral support during what can only be categorized as a very stressful and
> unsettling time. And I think you know what I'm referring to... Your
> support and encouragement meant more to me than you'll ever know. I felt
> as if I had 2500 friends all behind me, and that's a *powerful* force!
> Well done one and all! Thank you!
>
> Best regards for the upcoming year.
>
> Your Email List Administrator,
> Matt Dralle
> RV-4 Builder #1763
>
> =================== 1999 List of Contributors #1 ====================
>
> Abell, John
> Acker, Rob
> Adams, Bob
> Adamson, Larry
> Ahamer, Karl
> Albachten, Rudy III
> Alcazar, Jesus
> Allen, Brent
> Allison, Steven
> Ammeter, John
> Amundsen, Blair
> Anderson, Edward
> Armstrong, Robert
> Arnold, James
> Aronson, David
> Ashford, James
> Ashton, Kent
> Atkinson, Harold
> Baggett, Robert
> Baker, Gary
> Baker, Ray
> Baldwin, James
> Barlow, Melvin
> Barnes, Thomas
> Barnes, Tom
> Barnhart, Dave
> Barrenechea, Godo
> Battles, Brenton
> BB Diversified Services, LTD
> Bechtel, Amos
> Bell, Bruce
> Belted Air Power LTD.
> Benhan, Dallas
> Bennett, Peter
> Besing, Paul
> Bieber, Mike
> Bilodeau, Paul
> Bird, Carroll
> Blanton, Stan
> Bleier, Roger
> Blomgren, Jack
> Blum, Ronald
> Boadright, Kyle
> Boardman, Don III
> Boatright, Kyle
> Boatright, Robert
> Bodie, Pete
> Bonesteel, Wayne
> Booze, Gregory
> Borne, Charles
> Bourgeois, Rion
> Bourne, Larry
> Bovan Pe, Vaso
> Bowen, Larry
> Bowen, Miles
> Bower, Bob
> Bowhay, Eustace
> Bowman, Brian R
> Boyd, Rodney
> Branscomb, Warren
> Bray, Garrett
> Brian Lloyd
> Brick, John
> Bridgham, David
> Brogley, Mike
> Brooks, Chris
> Brooks, John
> Brott, Marvin
> Brown, Kent
> Brown, Scott
> Buckwalter, David - Avionics Systems
> Burlingame, Ralph
> Burnham, Dave
> Calhoun, Ronald
> Calvert, Jerry
> Cantrell, Ken
> Capen, Ralph
> Cardinal, Gregory
> Carey, Christopher
> Carr, David
> Carter, Jerry
> Carter, Ron
> Casey, Jeremy
> Chapple, Glen
> Chesnut, Bruce
> Chesnut, William
> Christensen, Peter
> Christie, William
> Churchill, Frank
> Ciolino, John
> Clabots, Gerald
> Clark, Howard
> Clark, James
> Clary, Buck
> Clay, Dennis
> Cloughley, Bill
> Cole, Ed
> Colontonio, Moe
> Colucci, Anthoney
> Conaway, James
> Cook, David Sr.
> Cooley, John
> Copeland, Forrest
> Corder, Michael
> Corriveau, Grant
> Cotter, Timothy
> Cox, Carson
> Croby, Harry
> Crosley, Richard
> Cullen, Chuck
> Czinkota, Garnet
> Dall, Richard
> Daudt, Larry
> Davidson, Jeff
> Davis, Christopher
> Davis, Jared
> Davis, Steve - The Panel Pilot
> Davis, William
> Day, Robert
> Deffner, David
> Del Peso, Jose
> Derrik, Chuck
> Desmond, Richard
> Devine, Steven
> Devlin, John
> Dewees, Ron
> Dial, J.R.
> Dominey, Clifford
> Dorsey, Bob
> Downing, Jeff
> Dubroc, Tommy
> Dudley, Richard
> Duffy, Russell
> Duncan, John
> Dunlap, E.T.
> Dziewiontkoski, Bob
> Eagleston, Ron
> Eagleston, Ronald
> Eastburn, James
> Elder, William
> Elhai, Irv
> Emrath, Marty
> Ensing, Dale
> Ervin, Thomas
> Erwin, Chip - Czech Aircraft Works
> Evans, Monte
> Exstrom, Daniel
> Faile, David
> Farrar, Jeffrey
> Farris, Paul
> Fetzer, George
> Fiedler, Mike
> Filucci, Michael - Red Dragon Aviaion
> Finch, K
> Flaherty, Edward
> Floyd, Joseph
> Ford, David
> Forrest, Gerald
> Forsting, Robert
> Fortner, Earl
> Four Star Products
> Frank, Dan
> Franz, Carl
> Frazier, Vince
> Frederick, Mark
> French, Edwin
> Friedman, Frank
> Froehlich, Carl
> Fromm, John
> Fry, John
> Funk, Edwin Jr.
> Funnell, Augustus
> George, William
> Gilbert, Mark
> Giusti, Roberto
> Glaser, Arthur
> Glass, Roy
> Glover, Ken
> Gold, Andy - Builder's Book Store
> Goldberg, Mark
> Good, Chris
> Gooding, Lawrence
> Goolsby, Jim
> Gott, Shelby
> Goudreault, Jacques
> Graham, James Jr.
> Grant, Jordan
> Griffin, Bill
> Griffin, Randy
> Groom, Larry
> Guillosso, Alain
> Hale, Michael
> Hales, Sherman
> Hall, Bob
> Hall, Thomas
> Hamer, Steven
> Hamilton, Thom
> Hamilton, William
> Hand, Chris
> Hansen, Ronald
> Hargis, Merle
> Harmon, John
> Harper, Malcom
> Harrill, Roy
> Harris, John
> Hart, Daniel
> Harvey, Doug
> Hassall, J.C.
> Hastedt, Margaret
> Hatch, Fletcher III
> Hatcher, Clive
> Hatfield, Cecil
> Hays, Wes
> Henderson, George
> Henderson, Randall
> Heritch, Ian
> Herndon, Richard
> Herren, Bill
> Hevern, Jerry
> Hiatt, Mark
> Hiers, Craig
> Hinch, Christopher
> Hine, Joe
> Hinkley, Curtis
> Hinrichsen, James
> Hodge, Jack
> Hodgson, Bob
> Hodson, Frank
> Hoffman, Carl
> Holcombe, Richard
> Horton, Kevin
> Hoshowski, Ken
> Hrycauk, Dave
> Hughes, Robert
> Hulen, Fred
> Hundley, Richard
> Hurd, James
> Hurlbut, Steve
> Hutcheson, Ken
> Ihlenburg, Fred
> Ingram, Jim
> Irace, Bill
> Irwin, Eric
> Isler, Jerry
> Ivers, James
> James, Larry
> Janes, Bob
> Janicki, Steven
> Japundza, Bob
> Jeens, Ken
> Johannsson, Johann
> Johnson, Jackie
> Johnson, Stephen
> Jones, Bryan
> Jones, Rob
> Jones, Russ
> Jonker, Bill
> Jordan, Thomas
> Jory, Rick
> Kampthorne, Hal
> Kayner, Dennis
> Keithley, Rick
> King, Da Ve
> Kirby, Dennis
> Kirby, Graham
> Kirtland, Charles
> Kitz, John
> Knezacek, Dan
> Knievel, Gerald
> Knoll, Bruce
> Kosta, Michael
> Kowalski, Ed
> Krueger, Dan
> Krueger, Scott
> Kuss, Charlie
> Laczko, Frank Sr.
> Lamb, Richard
> Lane, Kevin
> Lassen, Finn
> Laurence, Peter
> Laverty, Mike
> Lawson, John
> Leaf, Dave
> Lee, John
> Lee, Ric
> LeGare, Garry
> Leggette, Len
> Leonard, William
> Lerohl, Gaylen
> Lervold, Randy
> Lewis, Terry
> Lewis, Tim
> Ligon, Howard
> Lind, Laird
> Linebaugh, Jeffrey
> Loeber, Wayne
> Ludeman, Bruce
> Lutes, Rick
> Mac Donald, Lawrence
> MacKay, Alex
> Malczynski, Francis
> Mandell, Tom
> Marino, Anthony
> Marion, Chris
> Markert, Michael
> Marshall, Robert
> Martin, Tom
> Maxson, Phil
> Mazatuad, Mme Hyun Sook
> McElhoe, Bruce
> McFarlane, Lloyd
> McGee, Michael
> McHarry, Joe
> McHenry, Tedd
> McKibben, Gerald
> McNamara, Don
> Melder, Frank
> Melia, Tom
> Metzger, Stephen
> Meyers, John
> Miller, Jim & Dondi - Aircraft Technical Support
> Mitchell, Duane
> Moen, Craig
> Mojzisik, Allan
> Molzen, Jason
> Mondy, Malia
> Moore, Thomas
> Moore, Warren
> Morelli, Bill
> Morelli, William
> Morris, Daniel III
> Morrison, Mark
> Morrow, Dan
> Moulin, Roger
> Munn, Mike
> Murphy, Ray Jr.
> Neal, Danny
> Nellis, Michael
> Nelson, James
> Nelson, Jim
> Newell, Alan
> Nguyen, Thomas
> Nice, James
> Nicely, Vincent
> Norris, Rob
> Nowakowski, Donald
> Noyer, Robert
> Nuckolls, Robert
> Olendorf, Scott
> Olson, Larry
> Olson, Tom
> Orear, Jeffrey
> Owens, Laird
> Palinkas, Gary
> Pardue, Larry
> Paulson, Craig
> Peck, Bill & Kathy
> Peer, Michael - Jem Aviation
> Peryk, Dennis
> Peternel, Stanley
> Petersen, Eric
> Petersen, Paul
> Peterson, Alex
> Pflanzer, Randy
> Phillips, Mark
> Pickrell, Jim
> Pike, Richard
> Pinneo, George
> Pittenger, Dick
> Plathey, Claude
> Point, Jeff
> Polstra, Philip
> Porter, Richard
> Porter, Robert
> Potter, Mark
> Pretzsch, Robert
> Ragsdale, Bill
> Randolph, George
> Ransom, Ben
> Rathbun, Richard
> Reeck, Jay
> Reed, Derek
> Reed, Frank
> Reisdorfer, Mark
> Reynolds, Richard
> Richardson, Ray - Powersport Aviation Inc.
> Riedlinger, Paul
> Riley, Stuart
> Roach, Brian
> Rodgers, Brian
> Rosales, Paul
> Rowbotham, Charles
> Rowles, Les
> Rozendaal, Doug
> Rutherford, Ted
> Sa, Carlos
> Sager, Jim
> Sailer, Martin
> SanClemente, Andrew
> Sapp, Doug
> Sargent, Tom
> Sax, Samuel
> Schemmel, Grant
> Schippers, John
> Schmitt, Clayton
> Schneeflock, Robert
> Schrimmer, Mark
> Schwarz, Guillermo
> Selby, Jim - JKL Aviation Sales
> Seward, Douglas
> Shackleford, Howard
> Shafer, Jim
> Shank, Bill
> Sheets, Douglas
> Shenk, Doug
> Shepherd, Dallas
> Shettel, Maurice
> Shipley, Walter
> Sigmon, Harvey
> Silverstein, Chuck
> Sipp, Dick
> Slaughter, Mike
> Small, Thomas
> Smith, Clayton
> Smith, Edmund
> Smith, Philip
> Smith, Shelby
> Smithey, Lloyd
> Snyder, David
> Solecki, John
> Sparks, Timothy
> Stafford, David
> Staub, Skip
> Steer, Bill
> Stobbe, Bruce
> Stoffers, Larry
> Stone, James
> Strandjord, Eric
> Swaney, Mark
> Tauch, Eric
> Tauchen, Bryan
> Taylor, Tod
> Team Rocket
> Thayer, George
> Therrien, Michel
> Thistelthwaite, Geoffrey
> Thoman, Daniel
> Thomas, Lee
> Thomas, Tim
> Thompson, Michael
> Todd, John
> Tompkins, Jeff
> Tower, John
> True, George
> Tucker, Harold
> Tuton, Beauford
> Tyrrel, Charles
> Upshur, Bill
> Uribe, Guillermo
> Uribe, Gullermo
> Utterback, Thomas
> Van Der Sanden, Gert
> Vandervort, Ronald
> VanGrunsven, Stanley
> Varnes, William
> Volum, Peter
> Von Ruden, Dennis
> VonLindern, Paul
> Vosberg, Roy
> Waligroski, Gregg
> Walker, Tommy
> Walrath, Howard
> Ward, Ed
> Warren, John
> Washburn, Oliver
> Watson, Dennis
> Watson, Terrence
> Watson, William
> Webb, Randol
> Weber, Ed
> Weber, Edward
> Weller, Michael
> Wendel, Jim
> Wentzell, David
> Werner, Russ
> Werner, Russell
> Westridge, David
> Whelan, Thomas
> Whiler, Douglas
> Whitehead, Arthur
> Wiesel, Dan
> Wigney, John
> Williams, Jimmy
> Williams, Keith
> Williams, Lawrence
> Willig, Louis
> Wills, Mike
> Wilson, Billy
> Wittman, James
> Wood, Denton
> Wood, John
> Wood, Mark
> Worstell, Glen
> Worthington, Victor
> Wotring, Dale
> Wymer, Gerald
> Young, Charles
> Young, Rollin
> Youngblood, Barry
> Zeidman, Richard
> Zigaitis, Kestutis
> Zinkham, Ralph
> Zwart, Frank
>
> --
>
> Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
> 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
> http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft
>
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From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
Subject: | Cool RV-6 Gif Animation... |
Hi Listers,
I was experimenting with my digital camera today and came up with a cool
GIF animation of an RV-6 Slider out at Livermore. Feel free to add it
to your website if you want, although be warned it's a little big at
about 325k bytes. The GIF is at:
http://www.matronics.com/ftp/Scans/RV/rv6.gif
The 640x480 source JPGs can be found at:
http://www.matronics.com/rv-list/picture.htm
These were originally taken at 1700x1500 and then cropped to 640x480
using Photoshop, explaining the slight grainyness.
Have fun! Now get back in that shop! :-)
Matt Dralle
RV-4 Builder
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925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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From: | "Jerry walker" <carrabellefl(at)hotmail.com> |
Subject: | Prop Governor Controls |
I'm building a RV-6 with a Lycoming IO-320 and rear mounted prop governor.
The control lever on the end of the governor is behind the plane of the
firewall by approximately 1/2 inches. Has anyone else dealt with this
problem in connecting a control cable? Does anyone have suggestion on how
to connect/mount a control cable?
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Tim Lewis" <timrv6a(at)earthlink.net> |
Subject: | Re: Prop Governor Controls |
See the docs/plans section of my web site for the bracket I used. It
gets pretty cramped back in the firewall recess. My bracket lies
horizontal, toward the pilot's side.
Tim
On 22 Dec 99, at 9:28, Jerry walker wrote:
>
> I'm building a RV-6 with a Lycoming IO-320 and rear mounted prop governor.
> The control lever on the end of the governor is behind the plane of the
> firewall by approximately 1/2 inches. Has anyone else dealt with this
> problem in connecting a control cable? Does anyone have suggestion on how
> to connect/mount a control cable?
>
>
>
>
>
>
******
Tim Lewis -- Springfield VA
RV-6A N47TD - First Flight 18 Dec 99
TimRV6A(at)earthlink.net
http://www.geocities.com/timrv6a
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From: | "Douglas E. Bostard" <dougacft(at)jps.net> |
Subject: | Re: RV6-List Digest: 12/22/99 |
I Just launched my RV6A on 12-17. I have the same engine/prop
combination..I ordered and eventually used the bracket van sells for the
governor. I did have to add some to the "entry end" hole but that was
just to affix the cable housing. My cable exits the firewall on the
upper pilot side through an eyball exit. They are pricey but worth it
for enabling the sharp 90 degree curve to be divide between aft of FW
and fwd of FW. then straight to the governor. Any questions, get back
to me.
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
Subject: | 1999 List of Contributors #2! |
Dear Listers,
Below is the final List of Contributors for 1999 as promised. Again, I
would like to thank everyone that made a generous contribution in 1999
to support the continued operation of these email Lists. Your support
directly makes the quality and quantity of this service possible.
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
EMail List Administrator
RV-4 Builder, #1763 - N442RV
=================== 1999 List of Contributors #2 ====================
Adamson, Arden
Allender, Patrick
Anonymous from MN
Asher, M.E.
Baxter, Rob
Bell, Doug
Bendure, Ryan
Bergh, David
Berrie, Robert
Blake, J.I.
Boucher, Michel
Bragg, Medford
Briegleb, Ross
Brietigam, Charles
Broomell, Glenn
Brusilow, Michael
Chatham, Robert
Clary, Buck
Coats, Lonnie
Cook, Craig - Golf Instruments Co.
Cooper, James
Cribb, William Jr.
Crosby, Harry
Dane, Bill Von
Dziewiontkoski, Bob
Ellenberger, Mike
Embree, Roger
Faatz, Mitch
Fasching, John
Gibbons, Robert
Glauser, David
Gold, Andy -Builder's Bookstore 10%
Gregory, Steve
Grenier, Raymond
Guarino, Michael
H., Harold - E.P.M.AV Corp
Hale, Brian
Hunt, Wallace
Johnston, Leroy
Jordon, Don
Killion, Clay
Klingmuller, Dr. L.M.
Magaw, David
Mains, Ralph
Maltby, Michael
Martin, Cliff - Martin Metal Fab
Mazataud, Hyun Sook
McBride, Duncan
McDonald, James
Mendenhall, Elbie - E.M Aviation
Mitchell, Duane
Morley, Harold
Peck, Phil
Pessel, Garnett
Rodebush, James
Ross, Jonathan
Schmidt, John
Scully, William
Smith, Steven
Spence, Stephen
Triff, Wes
Wagoner, Richard
Weaver, Brian
Wiegenstein, John
Wiley, Robert
Wilson, Donald
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Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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From: | Dennis Berry <denniswayneberry(at)yahoo.com> |
Subject: | Re: 1999 List of Contributors #2! |
Matt,
Please delete my name from your list.
Thanks,
Dennis Berry
--- Matt Dralle wrote:
> (Matt Dralle)
>
>
>
> Dear Listers,
>
> Below is the final List of Contributors for 1999 as
> promised. Again, I
> would like to thank everyone that made a generous
> contribution in 1999
> to support the continued operation of these email
> Lists. Your support
> directly makes the quality and quantity of this
> service possible.
>
> Thank you!
>
> Matt Dralle
> EMail List Administrator
> RV-4 Builder, #1763 - N442RV
>
>
> =================== 1999 List of Contributors #2
> ====================
>
>
> Adamson, Arden
> Allender, Patrick
> Anonymous from MN
> Asher, M.E.
> Baxter, Rob
> Bell, Doug
> Bendure, Ryan
> Bergh, David
> Berrie, Robert
> Blake, J.I.
> Boucher, Michel
> Bragg, Medford
> Briegleb, Ross
> Brietigam, Charles
> Broomell, Glenn
> Brusilow, Michael
> Chatham, Robert
> Clary, Buck
> Coats, Lonnie
> Cook, Craig - Golf Instruments Co.
> Cooper, James
> Cribb, William Jr.
> Crosby, Harry
> Dane, Bill Von
> Dziewiontkoski, Bob
> Ellenberger, Mike
> Embree, Roger
> Faatz, Mitch
> Fasching, John
> Gibbons, Robert
> Glauser, David
> Gold, Andy -Builder's Bookstore 10%
> Gregory, Steve
> Grenier, Raymond
> Guarino, Michael
> H., Harold - E.P.M.AV Corp
> Hale, Brian
> Hunt, Wallace
> Johnston, Leroy
> Jordon, Don
> Killion, Clay
> Klingmuller, Dr. L.M.
> Magaw, David
> Mains, Ralph
> Maltby, Michael
> Martin, Cliff - Martin Metal Fab
> Mazataud, Hyun Sook
> McBride, Duncan
> McDonald, James
> Mendenhall, Elbie - E.M Aviation
> Mitchell, Duane
> Morley, Harold
> Peck, Phil
> Pessel, Garnett
> Rodebush, James
> Ross, Jonathan
> Schmidt, John
> Scully, William
> Smith, Steven
> Spence, Stephen
> Triff, Wes
> Wagoner, Richard
> Weaver, Brian
> Wiegenstein, John
> Wiley, Robert
> Wilson, Donald
>
>
>
> --
>
> Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 |
> Livermore | CA | 94551
> 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX |
> dralle(at)matronics.com Email
> http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring
> Products For Aircraft
>
>
>
> through
>
> http://www.matronics.com/archives
> http://www.matronics.com/emaillists
>
> Matronics!
>
>
>
>
>
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From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
Subject: | Confusion Over "List of Contributors"... |
Hi Listers,
I'm really sorry for the confusion over the most recent posting of the
List of Contributors #2. List #2 contained only the contributor names
*since* the List #1 was posted. So, if you weren't on List #2, you were
likely on List #1. Below are URLs to each of the LOC #x postings.
Again, sorry for the confusion. I should have made it more clear in
the verbiage.
Thanks to everyone,
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
============================= LOC #1 and #2 ================================
List of Contributors #1 - 1999
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http://www.matronics.com/searching/getmsg_script.cgi?INDEX=29144?KEYS=list_of_con?LISTNAME=Homebuilt?HITNUMBER=2?SERIAL=11144111847?SHOWBUTTONS=NO
List of Contributors #2 - 1999
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http://www.matronics.com/searching/getmsg_script.cgi?INDEX=29144?KEYS=list_of_con?LISTNAME=Homebuilt?HITNUMBER=2?SERIAL=11144111847?SHOWBUTTONS=NO
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925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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From: | Matt Dralle 925-606-1001 <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Subject: | Re: (Whoops) Confusion Over "List of Contributors"... |
>
>Okay, here are the *real* URLs. Sorry...
>
>
>Matt Dralle
>Email List Admin.
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From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
Subject: | Re: (No, Really - Here are the URLs) Confusion Over "List of |
Contributors"...
Geeze, I can't seem to type today. Here are the *real*, *REAL* URLs.
Sorry for so many posts... Ack
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
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http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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From: | PSHIREMAN(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Re: RV6-List Digest: 01/31/00 |
I recently subscribed to the RV-6 digest list. I receive a message each day
but no information. It always says total messages posted ,day,date:0. In the
body of the message there is a notation "Digest Mode Message Key". What do I
do to get information?
Thanks
PSHIREMAN
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From: | "William Ginn" <idavant(at)zip.com.au> |
Subject: | Re: RV6-List Digest: 02/01/00 |
Question:
Has anyone used BRS 10-11 two part epoxy primer on their RV? If so would
you please let me know what problems you had and what you think of it.
Thanks, Bill
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Bobby Hester <bhester(at)apex.net> |
Subject: | Re: RV6-List Digest: 02/01/00 |
RV6-List Digest Server wrote:
> From: PSHIREMAN(at)aol.com
> Subject: RV6-List: Re: RV6-List Digest: 01/31/00
>
>
> I recently subscribed to the RV-6 digest list. I receive a message each day
> but no information. It always says total messages posted ,day,date:0. In the
> body of the message there is a notation "Digest Mode Message Key". What do I
> do to get information?
> Thanks
> PSHIREMAN
I did the same thing when I first signed up. Then I signed up for the RV-List Digest
and found that everyone uses that list, most of the time, rather than the RV6-List
Digest. You will find everone in The RV-List Digest, sign up to it and you will
get
about 40-80 messages a day in it!
--
Surfing the Web from Hopkinsville, KY
Visit my web site at: http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/7373/
And see my Rans S12xl experimental aircraft
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From: | "Bill and Joy Mosley" <mosley(at)sedona.net> |
Subject: | Re: RV6-List Digest: 02/01/00 |
Why are you using primer, Van doesn't, either does Cessna?
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From: | "Douglas E. Bostard" <dougacft(at)jps.net> |
Subject: | Re: RV6-List Digest: 02/01/00 |
Unofficial reply by other RV6 builder: I get that too. I saw yours so
I believe that means there is no current question or tip pending for
comment. I'm just guessing. If I can help you in any way, mine has 10
hours on it now. Good luck
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | cmcgough <rv6(at)ssc.net.au> |
Subject: | Re: RV6-List Digest: 02/01/00 |
That is not correct, they both do!!
Chris RV6 Fuse
Bill and Joy Mosley wrote:
>
> Why are you using primer, Van doesn't, either does Cessna?
>
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From: | "Del Schneider" <del(at)deltech.ca> |
Subject: | Re: RV6-List Digest: 02/01/00 |
Subject: Primer.
Are we talking about primer on the parts and pieces or on the exterior? As
we all know all the parts are primed before assembly. If we are talking
about the exterior this depends on the finish coat one entends to use. In
most every case the paint manufacture will lay out the procedure necessary
for a successful job. I would suggest you follow the manufactures
recomendation.
Del Schneider
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of cmcgough
> Sent: February 3, 1998 11:55 PM
> To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV6-List: Re: RV6-List Digest: 02/01/00
>
>
> That is not correct, they both do!!
>
> Chris RV6 Fuse
>
> Bill and Joy Mosley wrote:
>
>
> >
> > Why are you using primer, Van doesn't, either does Cessna?
> >
>
>
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From: | "William Ginn" <idavant(at)zip.com.au> |
Subject: | Re: RV6-List Digest: 02/02/00 |
>
> Why are you using primer, Van doesn't, either does Cessna?
I live near the sea and everything corrodes here.
Bill
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From: | "Lemen, Ted Ce" <ted.ce.lemen(at)lmco.com> |
Subject: | Re: RV6-List Digest: 02/01/00 |
I find it hard to believe that Van doesn't use a primer. I always heard that
he likes Veriprime.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill and Joy Mosley [SMTP:mosley(at)sedona.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2094 7:38 AM
> To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV6-List: Re: RV6-List Digest: 02/01/00
>
>
> Why are you using primer, Van doesn't, either does Cessna?
>
>
>
>
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From: | "William Ginn" <idavant(at)zip.com.au> |
Subject: | Corrosion Proofing |
Hello Ted,
>
> I find it hard to believe that Van doesn't use a primer. I always heard
that
> he likes Veriprime.
Ken at Van's said to me that if you lived near the sea and had to leave the
plane outside, consider corrosion proofing, but did not specify what type.
I'm considering BMS 10-11 which is a Boeing product so it should be good.
Bill
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From: | "Bill and Joy Mosley" <mosley(at)sedona.net> |
Subject: | Re: Corrosion Proofing |
Bill,
Maybe we are confusing the priming of steel parts with priming under
exterior finish . In the Rviator back in '91 there is a reference to self
etching primers for steel parts before assembling, Marhyde #5111 work great,
but is no longer available from Avery, I found SEM brand at my automotive
paint center.
There is a article in '92 about Bill Brown using Veriprime, personally, I
prefer phosphatizing ( tri-sodium works well) and paint on bare metel unless
you need a filler.
Bill
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From: | "KRUETZFELDT,KEITH (HP-SanJose,ex1)" <keith_kruetzfeldt(at)agilent.com> |
Subject: | slider vs tilt canopy |
I plan on ordering the fuselage kit for the RV-6 very soon but can
decide on the slider or tilt up canopy. I figure the tilt up had better
foward visibilty and the slider is better for taxiing (cooling). Would
appreciate any insights builders/owners have as to the pro's and con's of
each of the canopy styles so I can make an "informed" decision.
On a second note, I have never flown a taildragger before and have
about 120hrs mostly in Cessnas- is it a reasonable assumption that this can
be learned and mastered pretty easily?
Keith Kruetzfeldt
RV-6 (tailkit, wingkit)
San Jose, CA
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From: | "james small" <james(at)jsmall.flyer.co.uk> |
Subject: | Re: RV6-List Digest: 02/10/00 |
Please unsubscribe me from the RV6-List Digest and subscribe me to RV-List
Digest
Regards
Jim
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Sam Knight <knightair(at)lv.rmci.net> |
Subject: | Knight Upholstery New Lower Prices |
RV-6 Builders:
I have been in the upholstery business for 28 years and have been making
upholstery products for kitplanes for 16 years. I have interior kits
available for RV-4, RV-6, RV-6A, and RV-8. I also have cabin covers and
other items. I am the supplier of upholstery products for several kitplane
manufacturers. A list of other kitplane interior products available upon
request.
For more information, call Knight Aircraft Interiors, Inc., at (702)
207-6681 or e-mail me at knightair(at)lv.rmci.net. If you e- mail for
information, please mention either "Knight" or "Upholstery" in your
reference line so I can give your request my immediate attention. Photos
available upon request.
Sincerely,
KNIGHT AIRCRAFT INTERIORS, INC.
"Fly by Knight" Upholstery Products
Sam Knight
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Del Schneider" <del(at)deltech.ca> |
Subject: | Knight Upholstery New Lower Prices |
Good Morning, (It is still morning here)
I am building an RV-6A. I intend to do the interior in leather or possibly
leather & cloth. I am somewhat decided on color being a light tan to go with
an beige and red exterior. Things may change????. Would you kindly e-mail
whatever you have available electronically or if you wish
use the other mail system to;
Del Schneider
7650 St. Patrick Avenue #108
Prince George, BC V2N 4E8
Canada
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Sam Knight
> Sent: February 13, 2000 12:07 PM
> To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: RV6-List: Knight Upholstery New Lower Prices
>
>
> RV-6 Builders:
>
> I have been in the upholstery business for 28 years and have been making
> upholstery products for kitplanes for 16 years. I have interior kits
> available for RV-4, RV-6, RV-6A, and RV-8. I also have cabin covers and
> other items. I am the supplier of upholstery products for
> several kitplane
> manufacturers. A list of other kitplane interior products available upon
> request.
>
> For more information, call Knight Aircraft Interiors, Inc., at (702)
> 207-6681 or e-mail me at knightair(at)lv.rmci.net. If you e- mail for
> information, please mention either "Knight" or "Upholstery" in your
> reference line so I can give your request my immediate attention. Photos
> available upon request.
>
> Sincerely,
> KNIGHT AIRCRAFT INTERIORS, INC.
> "Fly by Knight" Upholstery Products
>
> Sam Knight
>
>
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From: | "KRUETZFELDT,KEITH (HP-SanJose,ex1)" <keith_kruetzfeldt(at)agilent.com> |
Subject: | slider and tilt -more?s |
Thanks to everyone for the first responses to my questions on the canopy
styles and my subtly phrased questions as to tail vs nosewheel. This of
course has generated some more questions I would appreciate insight on:
1) I hear a lot of people are putting gas struts on the tilt canopy
thereby defeating the jettison feature- wouldnt this make it illegal
to fly
aerobatics?
2) Can the slider be made so that it can be slide back say an inch or
two in
flight for ventilation (like on T-6's and other slider canopy
planes). This
would be a nice way to ventilate the cabin after a lot of aerobatics
and
one turned "green". Is there a limitation to opening the canopy in
flight?
3) If the plane flips over on the ground, how does one exit the aircraft
in
the tilt and slider canopy versions?
4) Are there any aerobatic limitations to the -6A vs' the -6?
5) Is insurance for the -6 typically higher than the -6A? (I have about
120 hrs nosewheel time, would of course get my tailwheel endoresment
for 6)
6) Have the issues with the failures in the nosegear of the 6A been
resolved. I also heard of failures of the rudder control cables on the
6A- any clarifications?
Thanks
Keith Kruetzfeldt
6/6A tail- rudder
San Jose, CA
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
Subject: | Internet Explorer and List Subscription Page Problem... |
Listers,
I have just identified a problem between any version of Microsoft's
Internet Explorer and the email List Subscription Form found at
http://www.matronics.com/subscribe Please note that this problem
*ONLY* affects users of Internet Explorer! Netscape users are
*not* affected by the issue. Users of Internet Explorer should
use the Netscape browser for now until a work around can be
developed.
IMPORTANT:
If you have tried to subscribe *or* unsubscribe from any of the
following email lists using *Internet Explorer* since the announcement of
the 7 new Email Lists this past weekend, your request was not properly
received and you should resubmit the request using the Netscape
Browser, or wait until a solution for the problem with Internet Explorer
is completed. The Lists affected by the Internet Explorer issue are:
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Skymaster-List
SmithMini-List
Sonerai-List
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Please note that the Netscape Browser *IS NOT* affected by this problem
and all lists can be subscribed to and unsubscribed from without a
problem.
I will post a message to the Lists when I have come up with a solution
to this problem.
Sorry for the inconvenience,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin.
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925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
"Internet Explorer and List Subscription Page Problem..." (Feb 15, 10:19am)
Subject: | Re: Web Subscription Page Operation for Internet Explorer Restored... |
Dear Listers,
I have rewritten the web page and CGI code for processing List
Subscription Requests to now be more compatible with command line
limitations of Microsoft's Internet Explorer and some very
old versions of Netscape. The page seems to be working fine
now on whatever browser I try. Please feel free to resume
your normal List Subscription habits.
The URL is: http://www.matronics.com/subscribe
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin.
>--------------
>
>
>Listers,
>
>I have just identified a problem between any version of Microsoft's
>Internet Explorer and the email List Subscription Form found at
>http://www.matronics.com/subscribe Please note that this problem
>*ONLY* affects users of Internet Explorer! Netscape users are
>*not* affected by the issue. Users of Internet Explorer should
>use the Netscape browser for now until a work around can be
>developed.
>
>IMPORTANT:
>
>If you have tried to subscribe *or* unsubscribe from any of the
>following email lists using *Internet Explorer* since the announcement of
>the 7 new Email Lists this past weekend, your request was not properly
>received and you should resubmit the request using the Netscape
>Browser, or wait until a solution for the problem with Internet Explorer
>is completed. The Lists affected by the Internet Explorer issue are:
>
> RVCanada-List
> RVEurope-List
> Sailplane-List
> Seaplane-List
> Skymaster-List
> SmithMini-List
> Sonerai-List
> Tailwind-List
> Ultralight-List
> Warbird-List
> Yak-List
> Zenith-List
>
>
>Please note that the Netscape Browser *IS NOT* affected by this problem
>and all lists can be subscribed to and unsubscribed from without a
>problem.
>
>I will post a message to the Lists when I have come up with a solution
>to this problem.
>
>Sorry for the inconvenience,
>
>Matt Dralle
>Matronics Email List Admin.
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925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Lkyswede(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Re: Web Subscription Page Operation for Internet |
Explorer Restored...
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | santafe(at)gnv.fdt.net |
User-Agent: IMP/PHP3 Imap webMail Program 2.0.11
Quoting Sam Knight :
Please send prices and pictures to:
Jack Eckdahl
4028 SW 97 Dr.
Gainesville, FL 32608
or email at
seats and upholstery for
RV6A building project.
Thanks, Jack
>
> RV-6 Builders:
>
> I have been in the upholstery business for 28 years
and have been making
> upholstery products for kitplanes for 16 years. I
have interior kits
> available for RV-4, RV-6, RV-6A, and RV-8. I also
have cabin covers and
> other items. I am the supplier of upholstery
products for several kitplane
> manufacturers. A list of other kitplane interior
products available upon
> request.
>
> For more information, call Knight Aircraft Interiors,
Inc., at (702)
> 207-6681 or e-mail me at knightair(at)lv.rmci.net. If
you e- mail for
> information, please mention either "Knight"
or "Upholstery" in your
> reference line so I can give your request my
immediate attention. Photos
> available upon request.
>
> Sincerely,
> KNIGHT AIRCRAFT INTERIORS, INC.
> "Fly by Knight" Upholstery Products
>
> Sam Knight
>
>
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Listers: I am looking for a hook up diagram for a Narco Mark12-D and A Narco
AT-50A Transponder. Any help appreciated.
Harvey Sigmon - RV-6AQB Wiring Panel
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Douglas E. Bostard" <dougacft(at)jps.net> |
Subject: | Re: RV6-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 03/27/00 |
Try Tom Pischel at Auburn avionics. He can help. See address above.
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Subject: | Re: RV-List: Re: RV6-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 03/27/00 |
TOM
i'm looking for a terra trt 250 d transponder, do you have one or know where
i can get one,
thanks
scott
tampa
rv6a finishing
abayman(at)aol.com
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From: | "Jerry walker" <carrabellefl(at)hotmail.com> |
Subject: | Re: NOTICE: Matronics Web Server Upgrade Tuesday... |
Need Help
I'm building a -6 with a 160 IO-320 Lycoming and Hartzell C/S Prop. The
engine uses a Bendix throttle body for the injection system. What I need is
information on a readily available bracket for attaching the throttle and
mixture controls or plans for manufacturing a suitable bracket
Jerry Walker
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From: | "Douglas E. Bostard" <dougacft(at)jps.net> |
Subject: | Re: RV6-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 04/05/00 |
Van's makes a bracket which is not too expensive, which is good, since
you may have to discard it or modify it the way I did to acheive the
right "throw" on the throttle/mixt cables as well as accommodating the
cable housing jam nuts. I have a 0320A2B. A lotyof people make one up
out of small welded chromoly triangle shaped config. I'm not too sure
that isn't the way to go. Likewise the prop governor bracket. Good
luck!
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
Subject: | NOTICE: Matronics Web Server Back Online... |
Dear Email Listers,
The Matronics Web and FTP server is finally back online! What a
nightmare... But at least its finally done and in all honesty the
system is running much better. Everything should be working now
including the Search Engine, Archive Browser, various List-related
pages, Matronics Product Pages, Online Ordering, Real Video server
and Contribution pages.
Again, I'm sorry it took so long to get things back - way longer than I
ever intended.
Have fun!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin.
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925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Tedd McHenry" <tedd_mchenry(at)agilent.com> |
The other day I noticed the tip-up canopy arrangement used on the Lancair
320. The Lancair has a parallel-linkage arrangement, so that the canopy
opens forward, but remains essentially level. I have a couple of questions
about this arrangement.
1. How hard would it be to modify the RV-6 canopy to work this way? I'm
thinking of a couple of possible problems: the attachment of the parallel
links to the side sills of the cockpit (i.e. are the sills strong enough and
rigid enough; how much reinforcement would be required); and would the way
the canopy frame mates to the fuselage have to be modified? In principle,
the parallel link arrangement could be designed such that the canopy
approaches the "seat" following nearly the same path as it does with the
standard tip-up arrangement.
2. Does the Lancair arrangement allow taxiing with the canopy open? It
looks like it might.
3. How does the Lancair canopy latch? Does it require a latch at the
front?
Tedd McHenry
Surrey, BC
tedd(at)vansairforce.org
http://www.vansairforce.org
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From: | Klaus Heddergott <klaus(at)yosemite.net> |
Charlie Johnson is selling his Rv-3 Project.
More complete than a quick-build kit, if there was one for a RV-3. For
construction status details and pictures and price contact Charlie
Johnson at 209-966-6423.
Or me by e-mail klaus(at)yosemite.net. This is really well built.
________________________________________________________________________________
Can someone help with the wiring output from an ACK-30 encoder to an
Narco-AT50A Transponder.
Thanks in Advance: Harvey Sigmon RV-6AQB Wiring DNA
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
Subject: | PLEASE READ: Network Problems To Matronics... |
Dear Listers,
My ISP is upgrading their network today 4/30 and tomorrow 5/1. I
noticed that Nameservice (DNS) went down last night around 3am which
causes all sorts of problems. If your message post was rejected between
about 3am 4/30 and 1pm 4/30, please repost as it was rejected do to the
DNS being down. I've redirected my systems to a different DNS server in
the mean time and things seem to be working right now. In any case, be
aware that there may be continuing issues over the next couple of days
both posting email messages and accessing the web server.
My ISP *promises* that things are going to be so much better after the
upgrade! We'll see... ;-)
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin.
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http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft
Great minds discuss ideas,
Average minds discuss events,
Small minds discuss people...
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Mark Phillips" <mphill(at)fgi.net> |
Subject: | Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 21:28:26 -0500 |
test ,test
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Mark Phillips" <mphill(at)fgi.net> |
I have the following tools for sale (mint condition)
All are AVERY tools.
PT81 Rivet Spacing tool
10741 Jig Fixture Brackets
1042 Edge Rolling Tool
620 Bucking Bar
615 Bucking Bar
1044 Double Edge Deburring Tool (NEW)
500 Fluting Pliers
200 Cleco Pliers
1300 Rivet Cutters
1050 Flute Burring Cutter
1046-1 Swivel Handle
1046-2 Extension Handle
420 Nesco 3/8 Air Drill
1043 Swivel Head Deburring Tool
575 Hand Seamer
1001 Hand Riveting and Dimpling Tool
150 Air Tool Regulator
9425 2 1/2 Hand Rivet Squeezer
1048 Back Riveting Rivet Set
4704 .401 Sha;nk Short 1/8
19360 Countersink Cage
1007 Rivet Guage Set
1008 Rivet Length guage
1022 3/32 Pop Rivet Dimplers
4706 Rivet Set 3/16
All tools are in excellent condition, All were purchased from Avery. Prices
from the current AVERY catalog total 772.25. Will take 20% off for a total
of 615.00. Reply email at mphill(at)fgi.net or at 217-566-2500.
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: | Re: RV6-Gear Legs and mounts. |
I am one of the few going from a 6A to a 6 kit. I therefore have what you
need to convert your 6 to a 6A. Complete unused new condition Gear legs and
Mounts.
I am told that Vans will deduct 550.00 from the fuse kit if you do not need
gear legs.
I will sell what I have for 475.00 and save you enough to almost pay for the
crating on your fuse kit.
Lonnie Lawson
Williamsport PA
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | RWood90641(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Re: RV6-Gear Legs and mounts. |
Lonnie
I have a son and family in Ft. Washington, PA. I am leaving to go there this
coming Sat. and would go somewhat out of the way to Williamsport. I will go
$325 on the 6A gear and this will save the hassle of shipping for you. I am
driving a pickup so it works for me.
Thanks,
Ron Wood
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "William Mosley" <mosley(at)sedona.net> |
Subject: | Re: Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] |
Matt,
You are over manageing this site, I receive 2 messages from you about
management for everthing I hear about airplanes. Leave it alone and maybe
folks will use it.
Bill
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | CharlesRV6(at)aol.com |
A friend recently purchased an RV-6A that was flying with a Sabaru engine. He
purchased it minus the engine and has installed a Lycoming. Now the cowling
doesn't fit. Does anyone out there have an RV-6 cowl for sale?
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | STUVANDYKE(at)aol.com |
I would like to resubscribe to the RV-6 list. I believe I was dropped during
a time when I could not empty or check my mailbox. Thank you, Stu Van Dyke
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Are Barstad" <abarstad(at)bconnex.net> |
Subject: | The tools are here! |
Hi Mark
The tools arrived today and everything is in good order except the
missing -6 rivet gauge as you suspected. Thanks for putting in the extra
goodies as well. I seen tie-wraps and tape plus labels - great!
I had tp pay $116 to get it from my local post office though. Customs
assumed it was new tools (they have too) and taxed me 15% on top of the
Canadian value. They told me I can get it back though so it's not a big deal
but I have to ask you a small favour. Customs require that you send a list
of all the tools you sent and just write that they were second-hand and sign
it. You could either scan and send in e-mail or send it in an envelope.
Thanks for your help - and sorry for being so impatient. It turned out that
Customs had it for a long time.
Are
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Mark Phillips
Sent: May 18, 2000 11:10 PM
Subject: RV6-List: tools for sale
I have the following tools for sale (mint condition)
All are AVERY tools.
PT81 Rivet Spacing tool
10741 Jig Fixture Brackets
1042 Edge Rolling Tool
620 Bucking Bar
615 Bucking Bar
1044 Double Edge Deburring Tool (NEW)
500 Fluting Pliers
200 Cleco Pliers
1300 Rivet Cutters
1050 Flute Burring Cutter
1046-1 Swivel Handle
1046-2 Extension Handle
420 Nesco 3/8 Air Drill
1043 Swivel Head Deburring Tool
575 Hand Seamer
1001 Hand Riveting and Dimpling Tool
150 Air Tool Regulator
9425 2 1/2 Hand Rivet Squeezer
1048 Back Riveting Rivet Set
4704 .401 Sha;nk Short 1/8
19360 Countersink Cage
1007 Rivet Guage Set
1008 Rivet Length guage
1022 3/32 Pop Rivet Dimplers
4706 Rivet Set 3/16
All tools are in excellent condition, All were purchased from Avery. Prices
from the current AVERY catalog total 772.25. Will take 20% off for a total
of 615.00. Reply email at mphill(at)fgi.net or at 217-566-2500.
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Lkyswede(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Re: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:=20RV6-List=20Digest:=200=20Msgs=20-=2007/08/00? |
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Randall Henderson" <randallh(at)home.com> |
Subject: | Room at OSH available |
Well, my on-again off-again plans for OSH are off again, at least for most
of it, so the room I had reserved will be available. This is a room with a
queen bed in a nice house with central air. The hostess, Sharon Hawkins,
provides continental breakfast. She works the EAA too so it should be
possible to catch a ride with her to and from the show when she goes. The
house is close to a bus line so you can get to/from that way too. Its
available for the whole show.
If interested, contact Sharon Hawkins, 920-232-8554.
Please email me if you get the room so I can get my deposit back.
Randall Henderson
randall(at)edt.com
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Randall Henderson" <randallh(at)home.com> |
Subject: | Room at OSH taken |
Looks like the room I posted at OSH (Sharon Hawkins') has been taken
(Charlie, be sure to let me and/or the list know if anything changes.)
I will in fact be going but not until Friday or Saturday, and I'll just
camp. Look forward to seeing y'all!
Randall Henderson, RV-6 N6R (~100 hrs)
Portland, OR
http://www.edt.com/homewing
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
Subject: | New Windows Utility For SkyMap II/IIIC... |
Listers,
For those of you that have had the pleasure of flying with one of the
new Skyforce/King Skymap II or IIICs, I've been working on a Windows
application that you might be interested in. Its call SkyComm and
allows you to connect up your Windows 95/98/NT/2000 PC or laptop to
the RS232 serial port on the Skymap and manage a number of its internal
datasets. Some of SkyComm's features include Screen Shot Capture,
Upload/Download of up to 4000 characters to the Skymap's internal
Notepad for something like an online checklists etc., Upload/Download of
Waypoint and Route data, and Download of the Skymap's Logger database.
There's even a built in wiring diagram for the requisite RS232 cable! I
have just finished Version 1.0 and am considering this Beta 1. I have
setup a rather extensive web site for information on the application and
for its download.
If you have a SkyMap, you're going to want this program! Best of all,
its FREE! Well, I do ask that those that like it make a voluntary
List contribution... :-)
The URL for the site is listed below and can also now be found off the
main Matronics web site as well as the specific List web pages.
Please download the program and let me know what you think! Comments
should be directed to support(at)matronics.com
SkyComm Web Site
----------------
http://www.matronics.com/skycomm/
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
--
Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft
Great minds discuss ideas,
Average minds discuss events,
Small minds discuss people...
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Lkyswede(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Re: ?UTF-8?Q?Re:=20RV6-List:=20Official=20Usage=20Guideline=20[Plea? =?UTF-8?Q?se=20Read]=20[Monthly=20Posting]? |
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
Subject: | New RV-9 List At Matronics! |
Hi RV Listers!
Due to popular demand, I have added a new RV9-List email forum to the
Matronics server. As you might have expected, the name of the list is:
rv9-list(at)matronics.com
and you may subscribe to it by going to the usual Subscription page
found at:
http://www.matronics.com/subscribe
Be sure to scroll down to the newly added "RV9-List" and
"RV9-List-Digest" buttons on the Subscription page.
I have also added support in the Search Engine and Download sections for
the new List. These can be found at:
http://www.matronics.com/search
and
http://www.matronics.com/archives
respectivly.
Have fun, and best regards!!!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin, Matronics.
--
Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft
Great minds discuss ideas,
Average minds discuss events,
Small minds discuss people...
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | larry laporte <llapo(at)dmv.com> |
please un-subscribe to all mail list thank you
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Foelker David J LtCol 50FTS/ADO <david.foelker(at)columbus.af.mil> |
Subject: | RE: Czech-List: Unsubscribe |
Please unsubscribe me from Czech-List.
V/R,
David Foelker
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Foelker David J LtCol 50FTS/ADO <david.foelker(at)columbus.af.mil> |
Subject: | RV-List: RE: Czech-List: Unsubscribe |
--> RV-List message posted by: Foelker David J LtCol 50FTS/ADO
Please unsubscribe me from Czech-List.
V/R,
David Foelker
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | larry laporte <llapo(at)dmv.com> |
Subject: | RV4-List: (no subject) |
--> RV4-List message posted by: larry laporte
please un-subscribe to all mail list thank you
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | larry laporte <llapo(at)dmv.com> |
Subject: | RV-List: (no subject) |
--> RV-List message posted by: larry laporte
please un-subscribe to all mail list thank you
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Foelker David J LtCol 50FTS/ADO <david.foelker(at)columbus.af.mil> |
Subject: | RV4-List: RE: Czech-List: Unsubscribe |
--> RV4-List message posted by: Foelker David J LtCol 50FTS/ADO
Please unsubscribe me from Czech-List.
V/R,
David Foelker
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: | Re: RV6-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 09/02/00 |
Isn't there anyone on this list?
GeoR38
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Hank Gallagher <hank-g(at)swbell.net> |
Subject: | Re: RV6-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 09/02/00 |
I signed up two weeks ago and yours is the first message I have received.
I'm not sure this list is still operational. I picked it up from a RV web
site. Let me know if you fine the working site.
Hank Gallagher
N47HG
Austin, TX
----- Original Message -----
From: <GeoR38(at)aol.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 7:59 AM
Subject: RV6-List: Re: RV6-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 09/02/00
>
> Isn't there anyone on this list?
> GeoR38
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Vaughn Mann <vlmann(at)highland.net> |
Subject: | Re: RV6-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 09/02/00 |
Hey guys,
I just signed up a few days ago and this is the first traffic I've seen..
maybe we are on the wrong list? Should we maybe do the following just in
case they want the info before engaging us with he reg. list? Or is it
that the list is dormant at this time? I don't know! I found this in the
welcome e-mail sent a couple of days ago. I'll paste it in for you so you
wont have to search for it. I checked the e-mail list with a "who" command
and none of us three are on the list!
Vaughn Mann
755GJ
La Follette TN.
Note that if your email address begins to cause problems with bounced
email, mail box full, or any other errors, your address will be promptly
removed from the list. If you discover that you are no longer receiving
messages from the RV-List, perform the "who" command as described in
step number 4 above, to check for your address. If it is missing, *and
you are SURE that your email address is working correctly*, you should then
resubscribe as detailed above in command number 1.
*****************
*** Important ***
*****************
If you havn't done so already, please send your phone numbers and paper mail
address in the following format:
smith(at)somehost.com
Joe Smith
123 Airport Lane
Tower, CA 91234-1234
098-765-1234 w
123-456-7890 h
to the following email address:
request(at)matronics.com (not "rv-list-request(at)matronics.com")
I have a file of such things for all of the rv-list members, that I typically
use to contact you when there are problems with your email address.
>
>I signed up two weeks ago and yours is the first message I have received.
>I'm not sure this list is still operational. I picked it up from a RV web
>site. Let me know if you fine the working site.
>
>Hank Gallagher
>N47HG
>Austin, TX
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <GeoR38(at)aol.com>
>To: ;
>Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 7:59 AM
>Subject: RV6-List: Re: RV6-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 09/02/00
>
>
>>
>> Isn't there anyone on this list?
>> GeoR38
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | old ogre <jollyd(at)teleport.com> |
Subject: | Re: RV6-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 09/02/00 |
it's working, Hank....jolly in aurora, or.
Hank Gallagher wrote:
>
> I signed up two weeks ago and yours is the first message I have received.
> I'm not sure this list is still operational. I picked it up from a RV web
> site. Let me know if you fine the working site.
>
> Hank Gallagher
> N47HG
> Austin, TX
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <GeoR38(at)aol.com>
> To: ;
> Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 7:59 AM
> Subject: RV6-List: Re: RV6-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 09/02/00
>
> >
> > Isn't there anyone on this list?
> > GeoR38
> >
> >
>
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "dwpeterson" <dwpeterson(at)gateway.net> |
Subject: | Re: RV6-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 09/02/00 |
I am, where are the hot RV6 sites?
-----Original Message-----
From: GeoR38(at)aol.com <GeoR38(at)aol.com>
rv6-list-digest(at)matronics.com
Date: Sunday, September 03, 2000 6:02 AM
Subject: RV6-List: Re: RV6-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 09/02/00
>
>Isn't there anyone on this list?
>GeoR38
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Kevin D. Patsey" <kdp1(at)mindspring.com> |
Subject: | Re: RV6-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 09/02/00 |
Will do!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hank Gallagher" <hank-g(at)swbell.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: RV6-List: Re: RV6-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 09/02/00
>
> I signed up two weeks ago and yours is the first message I have received.
> I'm not sure this list is still operational. I picked it up from a RV web
> site. Let me know if you fine the working site.
>
> Hank Gallagher
> N47HG
> Austin, TX
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <GeoR38(at)aol.com>
> To: ;
> Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 7:59 AM
> Subject: RV6-List: Re: RV6-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 09/02/00
>
>
> >
> > Isn't there anyone on this list?
> > GeoR38
> >
> >
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Mike Fiedler <mrfiedler(at)earthlink.net> |
Subject: | Re: RV6-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 09/02/00 |
Hi! I've been kind of wondering myself.....no e mail since I signed up.
Mike Fiedler
529 LM
Montgomery, AL
Vaughn Mann wrote:
>
> Hey guys,
> I just signed up a few days ago and this is the first traffic I've seen..
> maybe we are on the wrong list? Should we maybe do the following just in
> case they want the info before engaging us with he reg. list? Or is it
> that the list is dormant at this time? I don't know! I found this in the
> welcome e-mail sent a couple of days ago. I'll paste it in for you so you
> wont have to search for it. I checked the e-mail list with a "who" command
> and none of us three are on the list!
>
> Vaughn Mann
> 755GJ
> La Follette TN.
>
> Note that if your email address begins to cause problems with bounced
> email, mail box full, or any other errors, your address will be promptly
> removed from the list. If you discover that you are no longer receiving
> messages from the RV-List, perform the "who" command as described in
> step number 4 above, to check for your address. If it is missing, *and
> you are SURE that your email address is working correctly*, you should then
> resubscribe as detailed above in command number 1.
>
> *****************
> *** Important ***
> *****************
>
> If you havn't done so already, please send your phone numbers and paper mail
> address in the following format:
>
> smith(at)somehost.com
> Joe Smith
> 123 Airport Lane
> Tower, CA 91234-1234
> 098-765-1234 w
> 123-456-7890 h
>
> to the following email address:
> request(at)matronics.com (not "rv-list-request(at)matronics.com")
> I have a file of such things for all of the rv-list members, that I typically
> use to contact you when there are problems with your email address.
>
> >
> >I signed up two weeks ago and yours is the first message I have received.
> >I'm not sure this list is still operational. I picked it up from a RV web
> >site. Let me know if you fine the working site.
> >
> >Hank Gallagher
> >N47HG
> >Austin, TX
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: <GeoR38(at)aol.com>
> >To: ;
> >Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 7:59 AM
> >Subject: RV6-List: Re: RV6-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 09/02/00
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Isn't there anyone on this list?
> >> GeoR38
>
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | paul.gervais(at)gov.ab.ca |
Subject: | Re: RV6-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 09/02/00 |
05:59:17 PM
I've been getting "0 Msgs" every day cluttering up my email, and no
activity on the RV6 list. If anyone finds out why, let me know.
Thanks
Paul Gervais
Mike Fiedler on 09/03/2000 05:17:38 PM
Please respond to rv6-list(at)matronics.com; Please respond to Mike Fiedler
Subject: Re: RV6-List: Re: RV6-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 09/02/00
Hi! I've been kind of wondering myself.....no e mail since I signed up.
Mike Fiedler
529 LM
Montgomery, AL
Vaughn Mann wrote:
>
> Hey guys,
> I just signed up a few days ago and this is the first traffic I've seen..
> maybe we are on the wrong list? Should we maybe do the following just in
> case they want the info before engaging us with he reg. list? Or is it
> that the list is dormant at this time? I don't know! I found this in
the
> welcome e-mail sent a couple of days ago. I'll paste it in for you so
you
> wont have to search for it. I checked the e-mail list with a "who"
command
> and none of us three are on the list!
>
> Vaughn Mann
> 755GJ
> La Follette TN.
>
> Note that if your email address begins to cause problems with bounced
> email, mail box full, or any other errors, your address will be promptly
> removed from the list. If you discover that you are no longer receiving
> messages from the RV-List, perform the "who" command as described in
> step number 4 above, to check for your address. If it is missing, *and
> you are SURE that your email address is working correctly*, you should
then
> resubscribe as detailed above in command number 1.
>
> *****************
> *** Important ***
> *****************
>
> If you havn't done so already, please send your phone numbers and paper
mail
> address in the following format:
>
> smith(at)somehost.com
> Joe Smith
> 123 Airport Lane
> Tower, CA 91234-1234
> 098-765-1234 w
> 123-456-7890 h
>
> to the following email address:
> request(at)matronics.com (not "rv-list-request(at)matronics.com")
> I have a file of such things for all of the rv-list members, that I
typically
> use to contact you when there are problems with your email address.
>
> >
> >I signed up two weeks ago and yours is the first message I have
received.
> >I'm not sure this list is still operational. I picked it up from a RV
web
> >site. Let me know if you fine the working site.
> >
> >Hank Gallagher
> >N47HG
> >Austin, TX
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: <GeoR38(at)aol.com>
> >To: ;
> >Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 7:59 AM
> >Subject: RV6-List: Re: RV6-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 09/02/00
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Isn't there anyone on this list?
> >> GeoR38
>
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Buster Arrington <bustera(at)bellsouth.net> |
who
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Steve McCartney <rv3flyr(at)attglobal.net> |
Subject: | RV-6 fuselage jig |
If anyone needs an RV-6 fuselage jig, they can have mine for free.
Located at CMA. Private me at www.rv3flyr(at)attglobal.net
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "John F. O'Brien" <moose(at)std.teradyne.com> |
Subject: | Re: RV-6 fuselage jig |
Steve,
I live in Westlake Village an would like the jig.
regards,
-john O'Brien
818.991.2139
Steve McCartney wrote:
>
> If anyone needs an RV-6 fuselage jig, they can have mine for free.
> Located at CMA. Private me at www.rv3flyr(at)attglobal.net
>
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Rod Kimmell <rkimmell(at)teleport.com> |
Subject: | For Sale: RV6 Empennage and Wing |
RV6 wing and empennage kit is for sale. Empennage 90% complete, Wing 20%
complete. Phlogistron spar, lots of extras. Located near Portland, Oregon.
Contact Rod Kimmell for further information:
503 985-0606
rkimmell(at)teleport.com
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Jerry2DT(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Re: RV6-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 09/29/00 |
Please delete. Too many "0" messages...
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
yak-list(at)matronics.com, rv6-list(at)matronics.com, rv8-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: | List REPLY-TO Fuction Restored... |
Hi Listers,
I noticed a bit of discussion on the List regarding how the Reply-To
field was working and there appeared to be some confusion. A couple of
months ago I got this great idea to change the way the Reply-To email
header was configured so that when a person did a Reply to a message
they received from the List, it would by default go back to 1) The List,
and 2) the Poster. This would mean in most cases the poster would get
two copies of the message. The reason it seemed like a good idea was in
the case where someone posted a message to another list that they
weren't subscribed to, they would still get a reply back. (You only
have to be subscribed to one List to be able to post to any of them.)
Anyway, it seemed like a good idea at the time, but it seems to have
caused a lot more confusion than it was worth. So, I've returned the
configuration back to the way it used to be where a reply will just go
back to the List.
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
--
Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft
Great minds discuss ideas,
Average minds discuss events,
Small minds discuss people...
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
Subject: | A Season of Giving - Please Support Your List! |
Dear Listers,
As my good friend Al Mojzisik from the RV-List forum has pointed out in
his humorous style this morning, its time for the Annual List Fund
Raiser! For those that are new to the Lists since last year, I'd like
to just mention what its all about. I have always run the List services
here completely free of charge to the members. This includes the Email
Lists, Archive Search Engine, as well as some of the other goodies found
on the servers. My policy has always been that I will never charge a
'fee' to sign up for any of the email Lists and I have also turned down
a number potentially lucrative of 'commercial' offers to provide
advertising space either on the various web pages or on in each of the
outgoing emails. I have always graciously declined these offers,
however, because I have felt that the friendly, homey feeling of the
commercial-free site was very appealing. I have also felt that offering
the services here for free is the best way to stimulate the greatest
membership, and in my opinion, this is the most important element in the
success of a forum such as this. So, once again, I will restate my
commitment to always keeping all of the services here on the Matronics
servers free to everyone.
That being said, I must also say that running this system is far from
free for me, however. I am continually trying to provide the best, most
reliable service possible and have continued to upgrade the systems as
necessary to maintain or improve the level of service I provide. Quite
aside from the "real costs" involved in the maintenance of a service
like this, however, is the time commitment necessary to keep everything
running and time required to produce new and improved software
enhancements to make the whole experience more enjoyable for everyone.
On the average I spend 10 to 20 hours a week handling subscription
requests and related problems, maintaining the existing computer code
base, and developing new utilities for the List community.
The whole List site (web server and email server) continue to run across
the 768kb/sec DSL-based Internet connection. Connections to the servers
have generally been pretty reliable and performance has been good. Up
time for the connection has approached the 99% mark.
If you regularly enjoy the services provided here, I would ask that you
make a Contribution in any amount in which you are comfortable. Your
Contribution will be used to directly support the continued operation
and improvement of all these services, and as always, I will turn your
Contributions back into more upgrades and improvements. It is truly an
investment in the future of these Lists.
To make a SSL Secure Web Contribution using your Visa or MasterCard,
please go to the following URL and follow the simple instructions:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution.html
To make a Contribution by check, please send US Mail to:
c/o Matt Dralle
Matronics
PO Box 347
Livermore, CA 94551
As I have done in the past, I will post a "Contributors List" at the end
of the Fund Raiser, personally acknowledging each and everyone that has
generously made a Contribution this year!
Finally, I just want to say *Thank You* to everyone that has supported
me and my operation here this year. Your support and encouragement
means a great deal to me and I feel like I have friends literally from
all around the world!
Sincerely,
Matt Dralle
Your Email List Administrator
dralle(at)matronics.com
============================================================================
>--------------
>--> RV-List message posted by: Al Mojzisik
>
>Well folks,
>
>I hate to spring this on you without much advance warning and all but it's
>November already. For you newer List members you may not know but this is
>the time of year we all give "thanks" for all that Matte Dralle has done
>for us with this RV-List. the customary way of saying "thanks" is with a
>voluntary donation of cash through Matte's own simple and safe contribution
>hot-line at:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
>It's really rather painless and actually gives you a good warm and fuzzy
>feeling inside after you have made your contribution. Now last year I
>relied heavily on guilt to get some of you harder nuts to crack to ante
>up. This year I hope that in keeping with the election year theme I can
>learn something from the experts........"It's for the children."
>
>Yes your contribution will help children everywhere learn about the high
>moral values that are inherent in the RV family of aircraft. As our young
>charges surf the Internet for information on various things that we don't
>want them to know about, they may stumble across the Matronics Website and
>become aware of the RV-List and other interesting forums that Matte
>provides. This in turn may change there lives as they see what can be
>achieved through hard work and perseverance. They will learn how the polite
>exchange of idea's between consenting adults can result in the birth of one
>(or more) of the finest aircraft in existence today. They can become aware
>of a whole world out there that had previously been unknown or out of reach
>to them. So in the interest of our children, send your contribution to
>Matte to help the RV-List live long and prosper.............Darn, got my
>tongue caught in my cheek there for a moment.
>
>Once again, you can make your contribution through credit card at:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
> c/o Matt Dralle
> Matronics
> P.O. Box 347
> Livermore, CA. 94551
>
>I would like to pledge at this time that I will not place any negative
>advertising in the hope of raising funds for RV-List support. (Unless you
>folks hold out too long, then look out!) Let's have a real clean campaign
>this November and get out the contributions! AL
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From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
Subject: | List Fund Raiser Continues... |
Hello Listers!
This is just a reminder that the Annual List Fund Raiser is currently
underway. Won't you make a Contribution today to support the continued
operation and upgrade of this valuable resource? Your Contribution can
be made via a Secure SSL Internet Transaction with your Visa or
MasterCard at the URL shown below or you may send it via US Mail to the
address also listed below.
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or
c/o Matt Dralle
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P.O. Box 347
Livermore, CA 94551
Thank you for your support! Your generosity directly makes this List
possible.
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
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Subject: | Re: List Fund Raiser Continues... |
From: | "E. D. Yoes" <eyoes(at)stic.net> |
On Fri, Nov 3, 2000 11:33 AM, M. Drallle wrote:
>Won't you make a Contribution via US Mail to the
>address also listed below.
> c/o Matt Dralle
> Matronics
> P.O. Box 347
> Livermore, CA 94551
I mailed a check to that address about two months
ago and it has not cleared yet.
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
"Re: RV6-List: List Fund Raiser Continues..." (Nov 5, 5:46am)
Subject: | Re: List Fund Raiser Continues... |
>--------------
>
>On Fri, Nov 3, 2000 11:33 AM, M. Drallle wrote:
>>Won't you make a Contribution via US Mail to the
>>address also listed below.
>
>> c/o Matt Dralle
>> Matronics
>> P.O. Box 347
>> Livermore, CA 94551
>
>I mailed a check to that address about two months
>ago and it has not cleared yet.
>--------------
Evan,
I did received your check and I appologize for the delay in cashing.
Matt
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From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
Subject: | 2000 List Fund Raiser Underway... |
Hi Listers,
Just a quick reminder that the 2000 Email List Fund Raiser is underway
and participation so far as been good. If you haven't made your
contribution yet, won't you take a moment and make one today? The
continued operation and improvement of these services are directly
enabled by the generous contributions of its members.
You may make a contribution with either your Visa or Mastercard using
the Matronics SSL Secure website at:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or with a personal check to:
c/o Matt Dralle
Matronics
PO Box 347
Livermore, CA 94551
Thank you to all those that have already made a contribution!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
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From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
Subject: | Homebuilt-List: 2000 List Fund Raiser Underway... |
--> Homebuilt-List message posted by: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Hi Listers,
Just a quick reminder that the 2000 Email List Fund Raiser is underway
and participation so far as been good. If you haven't made your
contribution yet, won't you take a moment and make one today? The
continued operation and improvement of these services are directly
enabled by the generous contributions of its members.
You may make a contribution with either your Visa or Mastercard using
the Matronics SSL Secure website at:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or with a personal check to:
c/o Matt Dralle
Matronics
PO Box 347
Livermore, CA 94551
Thank you to all those that have already made a contribution!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
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From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
Subject: | Zenith-List: 2000 List Fund Raiser Underway... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Hi Listers,
Just a quick reminder that the 2000 Email List Fund Raiser is underway
and participation so far as been good. If you haven't made your
contribution yet, won't you take a moment and make one today? The
continued operation and improvement of these services are directly
enabled by the generous contributions of its members.
You may make a contribution with either your Visa or Mastercard using
the Matronics SSL Secure website at:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or with a personal check to:
c/o Matt Dralle
Matronics
PO Box 347
Livermore, CA 94551
Thank you to all those that have already made a contribution!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
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From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
Subject: | Rocket-List: 2000 List Fund Raiser Underway... |
--> Rocket-List message posted by: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Hi Listers,
Just a quick reminder that the 2000 Email List Fund Raiser is underway
and participation so far as been good. If you haven't made your
contribution yet, won't you take a moment and make one today? The
continued operation and improvement of these services are directly
enabled by the generous contributions of its members.
You may make a contribution with either your Visa or Mastercard using
the Matronics SSL Secure website at:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or with a personal check to:
c/o Matt Dralle
Matronics
PO Box 347
Livermore, CA 94551
Thank you to all those that have already made a contribution!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
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From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
Subject: | Huge Apology for "List Malfunction"... |
Dear Listers,
I am so embarrassed by the List-gone-crazy tonight! I'm not sure
exactly went wrong. I'm suspecting that someone with an email account
at msm.com may have been reposting my message from this morning over
and over again maliciously spamming the system, but I can't really
prove that.
In any case, I am hugely embarrassed and sorry for the ton of messages
that went out tonight regarding the 2000 Fund Raiser. Something went
wrong on the system or somebody did me wrong; in either case I
apologize for the huge dump of messages.
My sincerest apologies...
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
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From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
Subject: | New List MIME/HTML/Enclosure Filter Implemented... |
Dear Listers,
With the pervasiveness of email applications using HTML (web formatting)
and MIME encoding such as AOL 6.0, Netscape, Eudora and others it was
clear that I needed to come up with an improved method for limiting how
messages posted to the various Lists was handled.
As of today, November 13 2000 you should be able to configure your email
program any way you like - with or without special formatting - and your
message will still be accepted my the Matronics system. Also, if you
include any sort of enclosure data, your message will also still be
accepted instead of bounced back.
But wait, it gets even better! Everything except for the plain text
will be automatically stripped from the incoming post including any
HTML, MIME, and/or enclosure data prior to redistribution. This should
serve to both ease the configuration burden on the many users, and to
increase the readability of both the posted messages and the archives.
I had a few 'bugs' with the filter on Sunday and Monday morning, so if
you received a few messages that seemed "odd", than this was probably
why.
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin.
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From: | Jim Ivey <jim(at)jimivey.com> |
Subject: | Re: Yak-List: New List MIME/HTML/Enclosure Filter Implemented... |
Everything you need to know can be found at the following url:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution/
I just used the secure credit-card option. There is also a snail-mail
address for you old-fashioned types (i.e. back in the good old days when
folks wouldn't abscond with your credit card info) ;)
Jim Ivey
N46YK
Matt Dralle wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
>
> Dear Listers,
>
> With the pervasiveness of email applications using HTML (web formatting)
> and MIME encoding such as AOL 6.0, Netscape, Eudora and others it was
> clear that I needed to come up with an improved method for limiting how
> messages posted to the various Lists was handled.
>
> As of today, November 13 2000 you should be able to configure your email
> program any way you like - with or without special formatting - and your
> message will still be accepted my the Matronics system. Also, if you
> include any sort of enclosure data, your message will also still be
> accepted instead of bounced back.
>
> But wait, it gets even better! Everything except for the plain text
> will be automatically stripped from the incoming post including any
> HTML, MIME, and/or enclosure data prior to redistribution. This should
> serve to both ease the configuration burden on the many users, and to
> increase the readability of both the posted messages and the archives.
>
> I had a few 'bugs' with the filter on Sunday and Monday morning, so if
> you received a few messages that seemed "odd", than this was probably
> why.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Matt Dralle
> Matronics Email List Admin.
>
> --
>
> Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
> 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
> http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft
>
> Great minds discuss ideas,
> Average minds discuss events,
> Small minds discuss people...
>
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From: | "Nick Nafsinger" <rvator(at)alltel.net> |
Subject: | Nebraska builders? |
Just trying to find any active builders / pilots in the Lincoln NE. area.
I'm relatively new to the area (6 months) and am FINALLY financially able to
start -6, now I'm looking for others in the area.
Thanks much!
Nick
rvator(at)alltel.net
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From: | "Ken Broste" <spiritmoves(at)earthlink.net> |
Subject: | Re: Kolb-List: What Listers Are Saying... |
Matt,
I think what you're doing is great for those of us flying and building Kolb
aircraft. You're probably saving Kolb a full time employee in tech support
just by providing the communication between builders. I know I have had a
half dozen questions answered here on the list and saved Kolb support a few
phone calls. You should forward this letter to Kolb, maybe they'd ante up,
too. It would be great PR for the TN Kolb a/c. Thanks a bunch, Matt!
Ken Broste
Building a Firestar
Tucson, AZ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Dralle" <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 10:33 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: What Listers Are Saying...
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
>
>
> Dear Listers,
>
> During this year's List Fund Raiser I have been receiving a number of
> very nice comments from members regarding what the Lists mean to them.
> I'm sure most everyone can echo one or more of the thoughts expressed
> below. Won't you take a moment to make a Contribution to support the
> continued operation and improvment of your Lists?
>
> A special 'thank you' to everyone that has made a contribution so far
> and for all of the wonderful and supportive comments I've received!
>
>
> To make a contribution with a credit card over an SSL Secure Web Site,
> please go to the following URL:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
> or, to make a contribution with a person check, please mail it to:
>
> Matronics
> c/o Matt Dralle
> PO Box 347
> Livermore, CA 94551
>
>
> Thank you!!
>
> Matt Dralle
> Email List Admin.
>
>
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>
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>
> Great minds discuss ideas,
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> Small minds discuss people...
>
>
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From: | Jsu24osu(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Re: Nebraska builders? |
Nick,
I'm not in Nebraska but saw your note. Don't know if you have a 6 yet or just
wanting one. I have two, one almost ready for paint and another with a lot
built. Sort of a super quick build kit which I need to sell. All work done is
top rate and will not take second place to many 6's. Price is right.
Let me if you might be interested or past it along if you know someone
looking for a good jump start.
Joe Underwood
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From: | "Douglas E. Bostard" <dougacft(at)jps.net> |
Subject: | Re: RV6-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 11/22/00 |
I got your jump-start. Just finished 41 hours on a new as yet unpainted
RV6A. Had a small "seizure" in my left cheek only a week before test
flight. I'm now fighting a losing battle with Oklahoma and prefer a
'rrhoidectomy sans anasthetic" but will probably sell it. It is a
creampuff with $12K in the panel and rblt to new specs 0-320/new C/S
prop. Doug Bostard- N. Calif. Talk about jumpstart! email me for
details.
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Bezinque, David" <David_Bezinque(at)MAXTOR.COM> |
Subject: | RV6 slider track fairing |
How do you bend the slider track fairing? I have tried using a small bending
brake, but the bends are too close together to fit in the brake. Is there a
better way?
Dave Bezinque
RV6 QB S/N3499
-
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From: | bcbraem(at)home.com |
Subject: | Re: RV6 slider track fairing |
One of our builders just did one nicely on an "English Wheel". I assume
you're talking about the bottom/rear part of the fairing that needs a
compund curve to fit the fuselage.
Boyd
Venice, FL
>
>
> How do you bend the slider track fairing? I have tried using a small bending
> brake, but the bends are too close together to fit in the brake. Is there a
> better way?
>
> Dave Bezinque
> RV6 QB S/N3499
>
> -
>
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Mike Thompson <grobdriver(at)yahoo.com> |
Subject: | Re: RV6 slider track fairing |
--- bcbraem(at)home.com wrote:
>
> One of our builders just did one nicely on an "English Wheel". I
> assume
> you're talking about the bottom/rear part of the fairing that needs a
> compund curve to fit the fuselage.
>
> Boyd
He's referring to the cover bridging the rear skirts and covers the
sliding track on the top of the fuselage behind the canopy. One of our
number has made these in the past, I understand.
I've been watching this thread as I will need to do this very soon.
Mike Thompson
Austin, TX
-6 N140RV (Reserved)
Canopy (could you guess?)
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From: | "Douglas E. Bostard" <dougacft(at)jps.net> |
Subject: | Re: RV6-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 11/30/00 |
I assume you mean the bottom skirts outside the track. I carefully bent
mine by hand but if you encounter a compound curved area try a metal
shrinker on that part. This is especially good for the rear (top of
fuselage) skirts if they don't quite fit tightly onto the upper fus.
skins aft of cockpit. If the latter are drilled an fitted and clecoed
progressively from outboard to center (and trimmed aft later) it helps
to actually have 3 people pulling (stretch forming) and one person
drilling frame and clecoing. Hope this helps. I didn't find anyt
compounds on my side skirts..shaped (bowed) them by hand. Doug
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From: | "Vern Darley, 11" <vern(at)mindspring.com> |
Subject: | Need to buy an RV-6 project/tools in the SEUS |
I am looking for an RV-6 project and will consider those at any stage.I prefer
SE US since I'm in Atlanta so transportation will be easier.
Thanks!
Vern Darley
5 Perthshire Drive
Peachtree City, GA 30269
w 770 487-6307 9-6 est
h-770 487-5155
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From: | "Douglas E. Bostard" <dougacft(at)jps.net> |
Subject: | Re: RV6-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 12/01/00 |
Vern: A few days ago, there were a couple posted in this forum for sale
by one individual...in varying stages of completion. Doug Bostard
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From: | "Douglas E. Bostard" <dougacft(at)jps.net> |
Subject: | Re: RV6-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 12/02/00 |
Van's aircraft also has some hellish good deals on planes, engines, etc.
in their classifiedss..but usually they're snapped up beffore the info
gets to your mailbox.
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Vern Darley, 11" <vern(at)mindspring.com> |
Subject: | RV-List: Need to buy an RV-6 project/tools in the SEUS |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Vern Darley, 11"
I am looking for an RV-6 project and will consider those at any stage.I prefer
SE US since I'm in Atlanta so transportation will be easier.
Thanks!
Vern Darley
5 Perthshire Drive
Peachtree City, GA 30269
w 770 487-6307 9-6 est
h-770 487-5155
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: | Re: RV6-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 12/04/00 |
From: | Daniel P Farson <danfarson(at)juno.com> |
I want to be removed from this list. Using the automated method isn't
working. Administrator - PLEASE HELP.
R
Daniel Farson
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Bezinque, David" <David_Bezinque(at)MAXTOR.COM> |
Subject: | RV6 sliding canopy painting question |
I am wondering what the best way is to paint the sliding canopy
aluminum parts. I plan to paint the inside surfaces to match the "Polar
Grey" of the rest of the cockpit before assembly. I am still not sure what
color to paint the airplane, so can I mask off all the Plexiglas and prime
and paint the exterior later, after the canopy is assembled? I am especially
concerned about the aluminum strip across the top of the canopy. Does any
paint that gets under the masking tape affect the Plexiglas?
Dave Bezinque
RV-6 QB
david_bezinque(at)maxtor.com
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Rick Caldwell" <racaldwell(at)hotmail.com> |
Subject: | Re: RV6 sliding canopy painting question |
David,
I painted my canopy after it was assembled. Just removed it from the
airplane and masked it off. I'd recommend using 3M fineline tape instead of
masking tape around the edges. be sure to press the tape edge down good and
no paint will get under. I used PPG Concept paint and there is not any
visible detrimental effects on the plastic where the paint touches it.
Rick Caldwell
-6 165 hrs since 1/12/00
Melbourne, FL
>From: "Bezinque, David" <David_Bezinque(at)MAXTOR.COM>
>Reply-To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com
>To: "'rv6-list(at)matronics.com'"
>Subject: RV6-List: RV6 sliding canopy painting question
>Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 10:45:35 -0700
>
>
>
> I am wondering what the best way is to paint the sliding canopy
>aluminum parts. I plan to paint the inside surfaces to match the "Polar
>Grey" of the rest of the cockpit before assembly. I am still not sure what
>color to paint the airplane, so can I mask off all the Plexiglas and prime
>and paint the exterior later, after the canopy is assembled? I am
>especially
>concerned about the aluminum strip across the top of the canopy. Does any
>paint that gets under the masking tape affect the Plexiglas?
>
>
>Dave Bezinque
>RV-6 QB
>david_bezinque(at)maxtor.com
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Doyal Plute <dplute(at)horizon.hit.net> |
what kind of nuts are used to install carb to 0-360? elastic stop nuts
or steel stop nuts?
thanks:
Doyal
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "tdale4" <tdale4(at)email.msn.com> |
Can anyone tell me the main differences between the RV6A and the RV9A? I've
looked at Van's homepage but the both look so similar. I guess the 9A is
better if you don't plan on doing aerobatics????? It seems easier to build,
almost as fast with a smaller engine, and a little larger inside. Any
opinions would be greatly appreciated.
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Harvey Sigmon" <flyhars(at)earthlink.net> |
Doyal: Use Steel nuts, course thread and lock washer.
----- Original Message -----
From: Doyal
Plute
Sent: 12/9/00 11:44:25 PM
Subject: RV6-List: carb nuts?
-- RV6-List message posted by: Doyal Plute dplute(at)horizon.hit.net
what kind of nuts are used to install carb to 0-360? elastic
stop nuts
or steel stop nuts?
thanks:
Doyal
http://www.matronics.com/order
--- Harvey Sigmon
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From: | "Douglas E. Bostard" <dougacft(at)jps.net> |
Subject: | Re: RV6-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 12/09/00 |
don't quote me but I was instructed to use ordinary coarse thread (if I
recall) hardware store nuts with star lockwashers. It's been a while,
but you may find that's the thread category on the studs.
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From: | "Douglas E. Bostard" <dougacft(at)jps.net> |
Subject: | Re: RV6-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 12/10/00 |
Gossip/and fact: I believe it's intended more as a trainer, fatter
airfoil, more forgiving lift/stall, etc. Has to be slower-especially
powered as the prototype. Van will tell you if you call.
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Subject: | Re: RV6-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 12/10/00 |
THE RV9 IS A LITTLE WIDER THAN THE 6. THE 9 HAS A NEW TYPE WING THAT IS ABOUT
5 FOOT LONGER THAN HTE 6. THE STALL SPEED ON THE 9 IS LOWER THAN THE 6. THE
9 IS MORE A TRAINER .
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From: | CRASHOCONNOR(at)aol.com |
The RV9A has the same fuselage as the RV6a but has longer wings for more
stability and slower stall speeds. Also I don't think you can get a quick
build kit for an RV9A. RV9's were made for lower time pilots. i.e. easier to
handle.Not as pitch and roll sensitive.
Good luck
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From: | "Douglas E. Bostard" <dougacft(at)jps.net> |
Subject: | Re: RV6-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 12/11/00 |
Re: Pitch and roll sensiteve: I have noted my 6A in cruise will gain
or lose a thou feet when I'm not looking just because my lunch has
passed from my stomach to my lower intestines.
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From: | SSPRING83(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Re: RV6-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 11/26/00 |
Dear Doug
I,m in the market for an rv-4 or6. Serious buyer twell me more about it
and how long you,ve had it, etc etc etc. George Spring Chester Conn.,
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From: | "Craig Brenden" <brencotool(at)abq.com> |
I'm planning on putting an oil separator on the firewall of my 0-360
equipped RV-6. Where is the best place on the engine to drain the oil
collected from the separator back to ? Let me know your what works best.
Craig
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From: | "Tim Lewis" <timrv6a(at)earthlink.net> |
Subject: | Re: oil separator |
> I'm planning on putting an oil separator on the firewall of my 0-360
> equipped RV-6. Where is the best place on the engine to drain the oil
> collected from the separator back to ? Let me know your what works
> best.
I drain mine into a little Matco brake reservoir with a quick drain at the
bottom. I empty it at each oil change. It gets about 1/3 full.
Tim
******
Tim Lewis -- Springfield VA
RV-6A N47TD - First Flight 18 Dec 99
TimRV6A(at)earthlink.net
http://www.geocities.com/timrv6a
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From: | "Rick Franklin" <rickfranklin(at)earthlink.net> |
Subject: | RV-6 with Auto Engine |
I am trying to add a cabin heater to my RV-6 (Ser 20069,N2ST, still in
building stage), but cannot as yet decide the best route to go. Can any of
you auto engine users give me a lead? Especially on the shroud/duct/dump
valve/firewall opening.
Thanks
Rick
--- Rick Franklin
--- rickfranklin(at)earthlink.net
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From: | "Douglas E. Bostard" <dougacft(at)jps.net> |
Subject: | Re: RV6-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 12/15/00 |
My separator is on the firewall and it's from a Cessna 150. It's right
under and adjacent to the brake fluid reservoir. By way of a reducer,
it drains into a 1/8" ID hose that goes to a fitting (small brass-barbed
and clamped) tapped into the dipstick tube BELOW the level of the
separator. Careful..mine is plastic. I have one because I have a wet
vacuum pump which sill spit out a pint an hour on the belly absent the
separator. I speakjfrom bitter experience. I'm not sure that it will
work for the breather, bu I think it would. I can't tap into it with
the breathr since I think a 'Y' would tend to pressurize the crankcase,
but I'm not sure.
I know others who weld a sureflow 'Y' into an exhause pipe to burn off
any overboard residue. Again, avoiding pressurizing the crankcase is a
factor to avoid. You can lose even more oil that way if you don't also
blow the seal (an x-rated eskimo euphemism) on the front of the shaft.
Hope you get help. Doug
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From: | "Douglas E. Bostard" <dougacft(at)jps.net> |
Subject: | Re: RV6-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 12/16/00 |
You can always browse the junkyard fo one...I browsed an aircraft
salvage yard in Sacramento and bouht a nice Cessna 150 firwall unit-easy
to install lower right firewall on a 6A. Also, mounted the 2" outlet
fitting going to the heatmuff inlet on the shroud around the #3 cyl just
above the heatmuff at the back baffle. Gets prewarmed air there. Hope
this helps. Don't know about auto. I have separate valve behind
firewall which diverts heat to pilot side defrost. I had to invent this
box from fiberglass with inner workings of aluminum. Good luck
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From: | CRASHOCONNOR(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Re: Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] |
Is there anyone out there that has come up with an in flight and pre-flight
checklist for an RV6A. I have recently purchased an RV6A and it did not come
with one. I would be most grateful for anyone's help in this matter.
Thank You
Mike O'Connor
Email crashoconnor(at)aol.com
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napravio dar-mar kod mene a dolazi sa Vladinog konpjutera.
Dear friends,
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can damage your files.
Virus came automaticly to me from another friend and damaged my files.
Regards,
RILE
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From: | "Joe Edmondson" <tazman(at)lakemartin.net> |
I have a 1993 RV-6 Empenage and Wing kit for sale. The empenage kit is 95%
complete. The wing kit which has the Phlogiston spar has been uncrated, but
not touched since. Both kits are before the pre-punched era. I did not order
the electric trim or any other options. Will sell both kits for $3000.00.
Vans cost today would be around $6085.00. I live in Dadeville, Alabama which
is 120 miles southwest of Atlanta, Ga. If I can answer any more questions
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From: | David Moore <dgmoore1(at)gte.net> |
Joe,
It just so happens I am in the market for a wing kit. I was going to order
it from Van's after the first of the year. I already have a Empennage kit
of my own and mine is also the before pre-punch design.
Have you done anything to the wing kit other than uncrate it? Do you still
have the inventory sheet? And do you still have the crate?
Dave Moore
>I have a 1993 RV-6 Empenage and Wing kit for sale. The empenage kit is 95%
>complete. The wing kit which has the Phlogiston spar has been uncrated, but
>not touched since. Both kits are before the pre-punched era. I did not order
>the electric trim or any other options. Will sell both kits for $3000.00.
>Vans cost today would be around $6085.00. I live in Dadeville, Alabama which
>is 120 miles southwest of Atlanta, Ga. If I can answer any more questions
David G. Moore
mailto:dgmoore1(at)gte.net
Henderson, Nevada
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From: | "Douglas E. Bostard" <dougacft(at)jps.net> |
Subject: | Re: RV6-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 12/17/00 |
CHECKLIST: I have 2 separate checklists I developed which are
comprehensive for my 6A. One for prestart, other side for preflight,
then one for prelanding. They are laminated and computer generated with
some notations in red. Also made up a cheatsheet for the VM 1000 which
is somewhat complicated in various modes. It helps a little. I could
email you what I have and you could modify/regenerate to suit, then
print, then lamiunate. Mine are about 3.5" X 5.0" Doug B.
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From: | "elizabeth lincoln" <curby1(at)shianet.org> |
Does anyone have any experience with the ICS Plus combination
comm/vor/glidscope/intercom all in one?sure would save space and would
be simple. Only costs $1360.
Andy
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From: | abavac(at)pacbell.net |
elizabeth lincoln wrote:
>
> Does anyone have any experience with the ICS Plus combination
> comm/vor/glidscope/intercom all in one?sure would save space and would
> be simple. Only costs $1360.
>
> Andy
> CONTACT HANK HUDDLESTON(at)BAHAHUD@AOL.COM HE HAS USED AN ICS RADIO IN HIS
> LAST TWO PLANES, ONE AN RV-4 IRWIN ABRAMS @ ABAVAC(at)PACBELL.NET
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From: | "Gerard Pearson" <wildgoose(at)outerbounds.net> |
Subject: | Re: RV6-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 12/19/00 |
----- Original Message -----
From: RV6-List Digest Server <rv6-list-digest(at)matronics.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 12:54 AM
Subject: RV6-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 12/19/00
> *
>
>
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> From: "Douglas E. Bostard" <dougacft(at)jps.net>
> Subject: RV6-List: Re: RV6-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 12/17/00
>
>
> CHECKLIST: I have 2 separate checklists I developed which are
> comprehensive for my 6A. One for prestart, other side for preflight,
> then one for prelanding. They are laminated and computer generated with
> some notations in red. Also made up a cheatsheet for the VM 1000 which
> is somewhat complicated in various modes. It helps a little. I could
> email you what I have and you could modify/regenerate to suit, then
> print, then lamiunate. Mine are about 3.5" X 5.0" Doug B.
>
>
> Doug:
Could you E mail me a copy of your checklists for the RV-6/A, and for the
VM-1000 as well.
Wasn't there someone or someplace that had developed an "aircraft-pilot
operation handbook" for the RV-4 and/or RV-6. It seems to me I either read
something via E-mail or otherwise regarding the POH. Any hints of that in
your travels?
Thanks
Gerard Pearson
>
>
> >
>
>
> >
>
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From: | d.meloche(at)att.net |
Subject: | fuse jig available |
Listers,
I have just finished with my 6 fuselage jig. It is
located in the philadelphia area and has built five
fuselages. It is extremely accurate with planed cross
beams. The only other person in this area that I know of
who wants it won't need it for 1 1/2 years or so. If
anyone is at that point in the building process and is
intersted please email me off-list. I paid $220 for it
and will release it for same. When you're done there
will be another builder lined up who will take it off
your hands. Essentially a free jig (minus interest costs)
Doug M
d.meloche(at)att.net
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From: | "David Sundberg" <david_fs(at)bellsouth.net> |
Subject: | RE: RV6-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 12/21/00 |
Gerard,
This is the link to the POH I think you are referring to:
http://www.mstewart.net/michael/rv/rvhome.htm
Dave
Wasn't there someone or someplace that had developed an "aircraft-pilot
operation handbook" for the RV-4 and/or RV-6. It seems to me I either read
something via E-mail or otherwise regarding the POH. Any hints of that in
your travels?
Thanks
Gerard Pearson
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Subject: | Re: RV6-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 12/19/00 |
From: | Tedd McHenry <tedd(at)telus.net> |
There's an RV-6A POH and a set of flight test log cards on the web site of
Van's Air Force Western Canada Wing.
http://www.vansairforce.org
Tedd McHenry
Van's Air Force
Western Canada Wing
tedd(at)vansairforce.org
www.vansairforce.org
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From: | "Heinrich Gerhardt" <hgerhardt(at)earthlink.net> |
Subject: | fuse jig available |
My RV-6 fuselage jig is now also available, and mine's in the LA area. The
jig is very accurate with jointed and planed lumber, and a nice adjustable
leg setup with 1/2" thick aluminum pads that can be bondo'ed to the floor.
It's 6" taller than what Van's suggests which makes it nice to sit inside
the "tub" when backdrilling and bucking. The front and rear uprights are
removable with keyed brackets, and the whole thing is two pieces with eight
legs for easy transport. Since Doug M. is charging $220 for his, that's
what I'll charge too. It's located at Torrance airport.
Heinrich Gerhardt
hgerhardt(at)earthlink.net
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From: | Ristic Vlastimir <rileyu(at)rad.net.id> |
Subject: | Throttle Quadrants |
Hi everyone,
Does somebody has experience with side throttle quadrant installation on
RV-6 ?
Thanks,
RILE
Indonesia
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From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
Subject: | Matronics Web Server Upgrade... |
B
Dear Listers,
I will be upgrading the Matronics Web Server this afternoon (1/21/01)
and will be taking it offline for a number of hours. I hope to have it
back online by this evening sometime, depending on how well the upgrade
goes.
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
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Average minds discuss events,
Small minds discuss people...
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From: | "Bezinque, David" <David_Bezinque(at)MAXTOR.COM> |
Subject: | Tube Valve Stem nut & washer |
I was mounting my tires this morning and found that the washer and nut
supplied with the tube just barely fit in the valve stem hole (Cleveland
wheels). I am talking about the hole in the center of the rim. I left them
out of the first wheel because they don't serve a purpose, but had second
thoughts on the next wheel. Anyone have any thoughts on this incredible
dilemma?
Dave Bezinque
david_bezinque(at)maxtor.com
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From: | "Mell" <kitplane(at)tradezone.com> |
Subject: | RV-6 AFP Fuel Filter/Pump System (pics) |
Below is a link to install pictures of Ross Briegleb and Hutch's Airflow
Performance fuel filter and fuel pump system on their RV-6. This plane has
some real clean installs and enhancements.
http://www.kitplaneforum.com/ubb/Forum13/HTML/000005.html
Mell
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From: | "Dave Berryhill" <dwberryhill(at)home.com> |
Subject: | Re: RV-6 AFP Fuel Filter/Pump System (pics) |
> Below is a link to install pictures of Ross Briegleb and Hutch's Airflow
> Performance fuel filter and fuel pump system on their RV-6. This plane has
> some real clean installs and enhancements.
>
> http://www.kitplaneforum.com/ubb/Forum13/HTML/000005.html
>
> Mell
Very nice! Regarding the last photo, what is a purge valve?
Dave Berryhill
RV-0
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From: | "Mell" <kitplane(at)tradezone.com> |
Subject: | Re: RV-6 AFP Fuel Filter/Pump System (pics) |
Hi Dave,
A purge valve allows you to purge the hot fuel that is engine your engine
compartment back upstream into the fuel system, replacing it with cool fuel.
This allows cool fuel to enter the flow divider during a hot start condition
affording easier starts.
It also serves the purpose as a fuel cutoff valve for quicker engine
shutdowns.
Trip Mellinger
http://www.kitplaneforum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Berryhill" <dwberryhill(at)home.com>
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 7:33 AM
Subject: Re: RV6-List: RV-6 AFP Fuel Filter/Pump System (pics)
>
> > Below is a link to install pictures of Ross Briegleb and Hutch's Airflow
> > Performance fuel filter and fuel pump system on their RV-6. This plane
has
> > some real clean installs and enhancements.
> >
> > http://www.kitplaneforum.com/ubb/Forum13/HTML/000005.html
> >
> > Mell
>
> Very nice! Regarding the last photo, what is a purge valve?
>
> Dave Berryhill
> RV-0
>
>
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From: | "Gary J. Strong" <gstrong(at)qwest.net> |
Subject: | back riveting the rudder |
I'm having a problem back riveting my rv6a QB rudder. If I use the
an426ad3-3.5 the plans call for, the rivet bends or doesn't make a good shop
head. If I use the -3 (what appears to be the norm prior to a print change
in 1997) the shop head is centered and creates well but it is too small (it
fits in the hole in my handy-dandy Avery rivet gauge). Another issue is
that after I dimple the skin and stiffener w/ a 3/32 dimple die set (also
Avery), the rivets seem loose in the hole. Is this normal? (my rudder skin
came pre-punched)
Has anyone else had this problem? What rivets did most of you use in the
rudder? Also, I ended up drilling about 8 of them out because I didn't like
the head and replaced them w/ oo-rivets. Problem was after I back-riveted
them a few of the holes on the stiffener have a small crack right where it
contacts the pounded rivet head.
I'm to the point of trashing the rudder and starting over again w/ new skin
and stiffeners. Should I have cut the rivets between -3 and -3.5? Could my
dimple die be somehow made incorrectly and making the holes too large?
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From: | "Tim Lewis" <timrv6a(at)earthlink.net> |
Subject: | Re: back riveting the rudder |
On 29 Jan 2001, at 18:52, Gary J. Strong wrote:
>
> I'm having a problem back riveting my rv6a QB rudder. If I use the
> an426ad3-3.5 the plans call for, the rivet bends or doesn't make a
> good shop head. If I use the -3 (what appears to be the norm prior to
> a print change in 1997) the shop head is centered and creates well but
> it is too small (it fits in the hole in my handy-dandy Avery rivet
> gauge).
This sounds like a matter of technique rather than a matter of rivet
length. If the -3 won't fill the hole the -3.5 is the one to use. (I know
that's not fun to hear). Ways to reduce the number of rivets that bend
over:
- Hold the rivet gun absolutely perpendicular to the sheet metal, and
keep the rivet gun centered over the rivet
- Feather in the trigger just a tad (assuming you have a feather trigger
rivet gun) rather than jerking the trigger all at once
- Apply plenty of pressure so the gun doesn't dance around while
riveting
- Try different pressure settings. Too little pressure increases the
likelihood of bending because it takes too long to hammer the rivet.
Way too much pressure causes the gun to get out of control,
increasing the likelihood of damage to the metal.
- Practice Practice Practice
> Another issue is that after I dimple the skin and stiffener
> w/ a 3/32 dimple die set (also Avery), the rivets seem loose in the
> hole. Is this normal? (my rudder skin came pre-punched)
>
Yes. Rivet tape (Scotch brand low adhesive tape from Avery or Home
Depot) helps stabilize the rivets while you move the piece around in
the shop.
> Problem was
> after I back-riveted them a few of the holes on the stiffener have a
> small crack right where it contacts the pounded rivet head.
> I'm to the point of trashing the rudder and starting over again w/ new
> skin and stiffeners.
That sounds a little severe. How about just replacing the problem
stiffeners? I'd suggest you finish up the rudder (which will give you
lots of riveting practice) and then decide if you really need to start
over. The practice will be good even if you find you are not satisfied
with the final result.
> Should I have cut the rivets between -3 and
> -3.5?
In my experience it's more a technique thing than a need for a -3.25
rivet.
Hang in there! Riveting is NOT something that comes easily, but
you'll find you get better and better with practice. I still ruined rivets
occasionally until the last one was in and I was .... DONE.
Tim
******
Tim Lewis -- Springfield VA
RV-6A N47TD - First Flight 18 Dec 99
http://www.geocities.com/timrv6a
******
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Subject: | Re: back riveting the rudder |
There are two other thing to try when riveting thin dimpled skings. When you
match drill the skins try using a 41 dirll rather than the 40. When the skin
is dimpled the finshed hole will be closer to the correct size.
When a rivet is louse in the hole prior to riveting you can tighten it by
using the rivet squeezer. Before placing the rivet in the hole use the
squeezer to pre-squeeze the rivet. You will find it doesn't take much
pressure to widen the rivet body to the point where it is tight in the hole.
This is a standard A&P trick used when a repaired rivet hole has been
oversized during the drill out
Good luck
Joel RV9 900124
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From: | Normanjd(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Re: RV6-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 01/31/01 |
Another factor in the quality of you riveting is the brand of dimple dies. I use
Cleveland dies - they are very accurate and produce excellent dimples when
you use a number 41 drill. Once you try Cleveland dies and compare the resulting
dimple to other dies, you will not use the other dies any more. The dimples
are crisper around the edge. Put a flush rivet in the dimple and examine it
under a magnifying glass.
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From: | "Mell" <kitplane(at)tradezone.com> |
Subject: | RV Panel layout and center console (pics) |
Got some shots of a great RV panel layout this weekend. It is well thought
out and has lot's of goodies. The Skyforce is mounted in a great location.
Also, the layout of the center console is worthy of note. If you are
thinking about how to lay out your circuit breakers there is a good shot of
that too. :)
Here is the link to the photos:
http://www.kitplaneforum.com/ubb/Forum13/HTML/000007.html
Or just go to the RV section on the kitplanefourm.com
Mell
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From: | windsaloft(at)rmisp.com (Terri Watson) |
Subject: | Henry Gorgas Feb Class - short report |
New to this list, new to building.
After too many years of watching everyone else build RV's, and getting to
fly them all, am taking them up on their offers of local expertise, advice,
and help. Still, felt overwhelmed at just getting going, and as a woman,
intimidated by the intense array of tools and terms absolutely new to me.
Maybe gender doesn't have anything to do with it, but, like any newbie,
taking the first step has been a long time coming due to lack of confidence.
Took a pilgrammage to mecca -- uh, I mean Van's -- to pick up my emp kit,
see the factory, see if I could see a bunch of quickbuilds and planes and
pieces and parts --- had a great tour which greatly reduced my anxiety -- it
really is just a bunch of little pieces and one step at a time. Then, went
to Henry Gorgas' for my two day intro class on how to stick the pieces
together without destroying them, and to even make them look nice. I am
happy to report that I made lots of mistakes on the practice exercises so I
don't have to make them on my plane. Well, at least THOSE mistakes.....
Had a great time, Henry is adamant that you learn enough to confidently get
going, has a strong desire to make you good and to make sure that you get
what you need out of the workshop, as well as what he thinks you need to
learn. Could not have asked for more and better, and left there absolutely
confident that I could get going and do okay. Highly recommend his
workshop, will answer individual queries if desired.
Henry's number: 1-503-472-5187. Workshops 2 days, $270, bring your own
lunch, he'll bury you in coffee, sodas, and cookies.
Terri Watson
RV-6 Empennage inventoried and in the shop, collecting tools
Lander, Wyoming
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From: | Elbie(at)aol.com (by way of Matt Dralle 925-606-1001 <dralle(at)matronics.com>) |
2/9/2001
Fellow Pilots and Builders:
EM aviation is pleased to announce that the RiteAngle III Angle of
Attack system is in production. I know this has been a long, long wait for
some of you, however I will not sell a system that is not up to my standards.
The long delay was partially caused by the total new design required
after the RiteAngle 2000 system was terminated. The remainder of the delay
was insuring the system met all our requirements such as both hot and cold
environment testing. The first production group of systems off the line
are being again extensively tested for approximately 2 weeks before we
deliver any systems to insure there are no "bugs" appearing.
When all production testing is accomplished I will ship according to who
has sent in the order form via fax or US mail. (Again, DO NOT send your
credit card number via e-mail! I DO NOT have a secure e-mail line.)
If you want a spot in line for early delivery you can request this via
e-mail, and mail your check or CC number.
At present time I estimate 4- 10 weeks before your delivery, depending on
when I receive your payment.
To those of you who have been in correspondence with me for the last year,
thanks for your belief in EM aviation's product, and soon you will have a
product in your hands. I honor my correspondence of the quoted price.
Current price $295 + mount & options see web site for information.
www.riteangle.com
Elbie Mendenhall
President
EM Aviation, LLC
P NE Prairie Rd
Brush Prairie WA 98606
360-260-0772
www.riteangle.com
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Subject: | Re: Henry Gorgas Feb Class - short report |
From: | Tedd McHenry <tedd(at)telus.net> |
Terri:
I'm just a few hours ahead of you (after many years of being a wannabe).
You're right, it's just a bunch of small jobs that you tackle one at a time.
I'm about 1/3 through my empennage (I think), and getting more excited about
it every day.
Hope to see you at a fly-in one day.
Tedd McHenry
Surrey, BC, Canada
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From: | "Mell" <kitplane(at)tradezone.com> |
Subject: | Nose Wheel Fairing |
Hey,
Here are some shots of a real cool RV6 nosewheel fairing I saw on Briegleb's
RV-6.
http://kitairplaneforum.com/gal/rbrv6/nosefair.html
Cya,
Mell
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | RJCLIFF77(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Re: Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] |
Hi,
Just a quick question: I'm not sure how to ask a question on the RV List.
Could you tell me the procedure to access it?
Thanks,
Russ Clifford
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Ross Mickey" <rmickey(at)ix.netcom.com> |
Subject: | Re: Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] |
You just did...
Ross
----- Original Message -----
From: <RJCLIFF77(at)aol.com>
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: RV6-List: Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly
Posting]
>
> Hi,
>
> Just a quick question: I'm not sure how to ask a question on the RV List.
> Could you tell me the procedure to access it?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Russ Clifford
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Michael Hartmann <hartmann(at)sound.net> |
Subject: | Re: Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly |
Posting]
>
>Hi,
>
>Just a quick question: I'm not sure how to ask a question on the RV List.
>Could you tell me the procedure to access it?
Sure! First, to be sure you get your answer, subscribe to the list by
going to:
http://www.matronics.com/subscribe
and subscribe to the list(s) you are interested in.
Then, post your question to the list by addressing it to:
rvlist(at)matronics.com
You'll get your answer via the list mail. Unless you question is very
unique, you should check the archives first. The address is linked from
the matronics.com page. It is very annoying, and considered bad form, to
ask a question that has been answered thousands of times. Questions about
which primer to use seem especially taboo.
Hope this helps
- Mike
hartmann(at)sound.net
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Russ Clifford" <russ_clifford(at)msn.com> |
Subject: | archive question |
For those who answered my question about how access the list, I appreciate
your help! . I looked at the archives and there is a search engine. I
typed in "corrosion protection" and it came back with 0 entries. Was that a
bad topic???? Could you give me an example of 3-4 topics that can be
searched? I think that would clear up my unfamiliarity. Thank you.
Russ Clifford
Laguna Niguel, CA
RV9 soon
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Hartmann" <hartmann(at)sound.net>
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: RV6-List: Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly
Posting]
>
> >
> >Hi,
> >
> >Just a quick question: I'm not sure how to ask a question on the RV
List.
> >Could you tell me the procedure to access it?
>
>
> Sure! First, to be sure you get your answer, subscribe to the list by
> going to:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/subscribe
>
> and subscribe to the list(s) you are interested in.
>
> Then, post your question to the list by addressing it to:
>
> rvlist(at)matronics.com
>
> You'll get your answer via the list mail. Unless you question is very
> unique, you should check the archives first. The address is linked from
> the matronics.com page. It is very annoying, and considered bad form, to
> ask a question that has been answered thousands of times. Questions about
> which primer to use seem especially taboo.
>
> Hope this helps
>
> - Mike
> hartmann(at)sound.net
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Ross" <rmickey(at)ix.netcom.com> |
Subject: | Re: archive question |
Try different combinations like "corrosion & protection" or if you want to
get about a zillion hits try "primer"
Ross
> For those who answered my question about how access the list, I
appreciate
> your help! . I looked at the archives and there is a search engine. I
> typed in "corrosion protection" and it came back with 0 entries. Was that
a
> bad topic???? Could you give me an example of 3-4 topics that can be
> searched? I think that would clear up my unfamiliarity. Thank you.
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Dennis Trusty" <dtrusty(at)iname.com> |
Subject: | Re: archive question |
Try something related to corrosion control, like primer or just plain old
corrosion.
Dennis
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Jerry2DT(at)aol.com |
Subject: | RV6 Rear Top Skin |
Sorry if this question has been asked dozens of times, but didn't find it in
the archives. Anyway, I'm working on the r. top fuse skin and notice Van's
says you can either drill the bulkheads first then match drill the skin, or
mark the skin from the inside after strapping it down. Any thoughts from you
experienced builders out there? Orndorff's video only shows the latter
method, but seems to me you could get more accuracy by drilling the bulkheads
first.
Thanx all..
Jerry Cochran
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Heinrich Gerhardt" <hgerhardt(at)earthlink.net> |
Subject: | RV6 Rear Top Skin |
Drill the bulkheads and longerons first and backdrill the skin after you
strap it down. You need a snake drill to do some of the holes. I did that
with all my skins and it worked out great.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jerry2DT(at)aol.com
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 12:25 PM
Subject: RV6-List: RV6 Rear Top Skin
Sorry if this question has been asked dozens of times, but didn't find it in
the archives. Anyway, I'm working on the r. top fuse skin and notice Van's
says you can either drill the bulkheads first then match drill the skin, or
mark the skin from the inside after strapping it down. Any thoughts from you
experienced builders out there? Orndorff's video only shows the latter
method, but seems to me you could get more accuracy by drilling the
bulkheads
first.
Thanx all..
Jerry Cochran
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "jayeandscott" <jayeandscott(at)home.com> |
Subject: | Re: RV6 Rear Top Skin |
I agree- because of the many tabs of varying length rather than the
continuous flange found on ribs, it's better to predrill the tabs to ensure
proper edge distance then backdrill the skin. I used a 12" No.40 drill and
was pleased with the results.
----- Original Message -----
From: Heinrich Gerhardt <hgerhardt(at)earthlink.net>
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 7:06 PM
Subject: RE: RV6-List: RV6 Rear Top Skin
>
> Drill the bulkheads and longerons first and backdrill the skin after you
> strap it down. You need a snake drill to do some of the holes. I did
that
> with all my skins and it worked out great.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jerry2DT(at)aol.com
> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 12:25 PM
> To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: RV6-List: RV6 Rear Top Skin
>
>
> Sorry if this question has been asked dozens of times, but didn't find it
in
> the archives. Anyway, I'm working on the r. top fuse skin and notice Van's
> says you can either drill the bulkheads first then match drill the skin,
or
> mark the skin from the inside after strapping it down. Any thoughts from
you
> experienced builders out there? Orndorff's video only shows the latter
> method, but seems to me you could get more accuracy by drilling the
> bulkheads
> first.
>
> Thanx all..
>
> Jerry Cochran
>
>
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From: | "stephen grossman" <flyboy2(at)amexol.net> |
Subject: | rv6a/9a cad models |
i'm designing a plane at home that will use, with van's permisson, the 6a/9a
canopy, cowling, and other firewall forward parts. i'm designing in
solidworks and am looking for cad models of the above. thanks
steve grossman
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From: | "Christopher John Armstrong" <Tophera(at)centurytel.net> |
Subject: | Re: rv6a/9a cad models |
> i'm designing a plane at home that will use, with van's permisson, the
6a/9a
> canopy, cowling, and other firewall forward parts. i'm designing in
> solidworks and am looking for cad models of the above. thanks
>
> steve grossman
I have a solidworks model of the firewall and a modified engine mount if it
would help.
Chris
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From: | "Dennis /Fran Flamini" <flamini2(at)home.com> (by way of Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>) |
Subject: | RV-6 N196SM air to air SW of Chicago 3-11-01 |
ftp://ftp.matronics.com/pub/Public/flamini(at)home.com/p3110002.jpg
ftp://ftp.matronics.com/pub/Public/flamini(at)home.com/p3110004.jpg
Dennis and Fran
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From: | don522(at)webtv.net (Don McCallister) |
Subject: | Re: RV6-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 03/11/01 |
Matt, I have moved from Eugene Oregon to Del Norte, Colorado - I had no
problem retriving the RV digest in Eugene last fall , now that I have
subscribed again I have one msg and get a note that the sender is
having a technical problem and try later!!! This has been three days
now and either webtv.net cannot give me the digest. ???
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | don522(at)webtv.net (Don McCallister) |
Subject: | Re: RV6-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 03/11/01 |
How do I get this digest message??
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From: | "Heinrich Gerhardt" <hgerhardt(at)earthlink.net> |
I'm the fourth owner of an uncompleted RV-6. Somewhere along the years, the
brakes got lost. A friend of mine recommended I look at Matco instead of
Cleveland, so I e-mailed Matco and got a response that I consider the
dual-caliper or the triple-piston caliper for my plane. Having no
experience with tail-dragger RV-6's, how much braking force is needed or
even wanted? Is the stock Cleveland setup more than adequate, or would more
brake capacity be nice?
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Shirley Harding" <shirleyh(at)starwon.com.au> |
Subject: | Aileron mount brackets |
Listers, I have been off list for a while, but still building!
I'm puzzled by the RV6 QB instructions re aileron mount brackets W-413 and
W-414. Manual page Q7-1 tells me to drill them to the rear spar - but there
is no further instruction about when to rivet them on. Having been caught
before while building my standard kit tail, where the instructions told me
to leave the elevator horns clecoed "for now" but never instructed me to
rivet them - I just wondered is there any reason not to go ahead and rivet
the aileron brackets?
Thanks
Shirley Harding
Perth, Western Australia
RV6 QB wings
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From: | "Dennis Trusty" <dtrusty(at)iname.com> |
Subject: | Fuel Filter for O-360 Fuel Injection |
I am trying to find a source for fuel filters. I need a filter that
filters to 120 microns and flows at 20 gph.
Anyone have a source? Would appreciate Manufacturer/Model Number if you
do.
Thanks,
Dennis
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Don Mack" <don(at)dmack.net> |
Subject: | Re: Fuel Filter for O-360 Fuel Injection |
Look at http://www.airflowperformance.com/airframe.htm
Don Mack
RV-6A finishing
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Trusty" <dtrusty(at)iname.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 10:43 PM
Subject: RV6-List: Fuel Filter for O-360 Fuel Injection
>
> I am trying to find a source for fuel filters. I need a filter that
> filters to 120 microns and flows at 20 gph.
>
> Anyone have a source? Would appreciate Manufacturer/Model Number if you
> do.
>
> Thanks,
> Dennis
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: | Re: RV6-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 03/06/01 |
Are there any RV builders/flyers that have used the ICS Plus radio that
Wagaero sells. I would appreciate any feedback on this unit.
Greg
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Heinrich Gerhardt" <hgerhardt(at)earthlink.net> |
Subject: | seal on RV-6 sliding canopy |
Has anyone figured out an elegant way to seal the side skirts of a sliding
canopy RV-6? I'm thinking about a rubber-felt weatherstrip (like at the
base of a side window in a car), mounted on the side of the slider rail
contacting the skirt on the inside.
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "jayeandscott" <jayeandscott(at)home.com> |
Subject: | Re: seal on RV-6 sliding canopy |
On my -6 I'll be trying out the thin plastic strip that folds down the
middle to form a "V" shape. One side is sticky. The advantage appears to be
a pressure so light that when the canopy is run back and forth no distress
to the paint; yet, when the air tries to leak in, it forces the springy,
thin stand-up part of the V to press against the fuselage. It's sold in
short lengths for sealing exterior doors and windows.
----- Original Message -----
From: Heinrich Gerhardt <hgerhardt(at)earthlink.net>
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 10:31 PM
Subject: RV6-List: seal on RV-6 sliding canopy
>
> Has anyone figured out an elegant way to seal the side skirts of a sliding
> canopy RV-6? I'm thinking about a rubber-felt weatherstrip (like at the
> base of a side window in a car), mounted on the side of the slider rail
> contacting the skirt on the inside.
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Tim Lewis" <timrv6a(at)earthlink.net> |
Subject: | Re: seal on RV-6 sliding canopy |
> Has anyone figured out an elegant way to seal the side skirts of a
> sliding canopy RV-6? I'm thinking about a rubber-felt weatherstrip
> (like at the base of a side window in a car), mounted on the side of
> the slider rail contacting the skirt on the inside.
There's an old RVator article that describes the use of a bicycle inner
tube, split open and attached to the slider rail. You can find the article
in "16 Years of the RVator."
I used a racing inner tube, and it worked pretty well. I attached it to
the slider rail with carpet tape, which is very sticky and double sided.
Dramatic reduction in the amount of air that leaks out of the side of the
canopy.
Tim
******
Tim Lewis -- Springfield VA
RV-6A N47TD - First Flight 18 Dec 99
http://www.geocities.com/timrv6a
******
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From: | MackPerry(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Please remove me from the list for RV 6 |
Please remove me from the list for RV 6.
My address is mackperry(at)aol.com
Thank you
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: | Re: seal on RV-6 sliding canopy |
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Lewis <timrv6a(at)earthlink.net>
Date: Sunday, April 01, 2001 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: RV6-List: seal on RV-6 sliding canopy
>
>> Has anyone figured out an elegant way to seal the side skirts of a
>> sliding canopy RV-6? I'm thinking about a rubber-felt weatherstrip
>> (like at the base of a side window in a car), mounted on the side of
>> the slider rail contacting the skirt on the inside.
>
>I did not trim the skirt and instead let it lip over onto the fuselage and
as I fiberglassed the windscreen a slot was left for the skirt to slide
into. This additional fiberglassing area then was flared out so an
uninterrupted blending to the fuselage. Having done so this tucks the skirt
into the slot and with the overlap to the fuselage gives a really tight seal
( I have no air leaks nor has a friend who has also done this). I also added
tape so as not to scratch the paint in the contact area.
Bob Pretzsch N399BP
70+ hrs RV6A
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Scott and Pam Trask <PTrask(at)diisd.org> |
I'm looking at getting a RV6/7. What kind of runway does a guy need? 1000
feet enough? Is there anyone that lives close to me who would mind if I take
a look at your project?
Scott Trask
Iron Mountain MI
49801
(906) 779 9157
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: | Re: RV6-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 04/02/01 |
SHORT RUNWAY IN MICHIGAN
<<>>
Scott:
1000 foot runway... well...all of Michigan ain't very high in alittude...
so, I'd say that's plenty -- IF you've got no trees, hills, houses, tall
buildings, or power lines across the departure end of the runway for at least
another 2000 feet or so!
Van likes to say numbers on the order of 500' for takeoff, 300' for
landing, (maybe its the other way around?) with typical RV-3,4,6,8,9 (and now
the new RV-7).
And, we've all seen his video showing a 300' takeoff -- flaps down, but I'm
not sure if thats half flaps or full flaps.
Flaps down does decrease ground roll at the expense of immediate climb
performance, just in case you hadn't considered that. But, the plane does
accelerate so quickly you could retract flaps and pick up a few knots, then
climb much better with negligible increase in distance -- What I'm saying is,
a takeoff with flaps down more than makes up for the decreased climb IF its a
short runway you have to contend with!
I fly the RV-6, with 180 hp Lycoming, and Constant speed prop. Of
course, a CS prop does little for you when the goal is to extract max
horsepower at 2700 rpm on the takeoff roll unless you're comparing it with a
fixed cruise prop that cant get full rpm on takeoff! Either way, if you get
the rpm somehow, the whole family of Van's aircaft can get airborne even with
2 people and full fuel, in about 500 feet at sea level, and about 800-1000
feet roll at my altitude of about 3000' MSL. I'd suppose a mountain takeoff
at Colorado Springs 7200' or higher at Eagle, Telluride, or some place like
that might take a healthy toll on your takeoff roll -- especially in the hot
summer!
So, worse case for Michigan on a hot summer day... You'd be looking at a
normal takeoff of 800' roll, and you might horse it off with flaps down in
500 feet. Heavy weight. And don't expect a fantastic climb until you
accelerate to 120 to 140 mph. But after that, its STILL a fantastic Van's
aircraft, built for performance! You WON'T be disappointed! (They don't
call it the RV grin for nothing!).
I'll soon be building an RV-8 to replace my RV-6. I've got a county road
next to my house, but it has 'dips' in it (they don't believe in building
bridges over all the dry creek beds here in Nevada) -- so I'm looking for a
nice section of the road with at least 600 feet between 'dips' -- to take off
from on my first flight to get it over to the airport! I want to build my
plane with the wings on at home. And, don't have a method to trailer it to
the airport with wings on!
RV-6 TRAILER IDEA
That reminds me.... Has anyone thought of a method to transport an RV-6
over the highway without taking the wings off? I'm contemplating building a
special low trailer, to put the plane on sideways, then TIP the plane on its
nose to raise the tail up high, with some sort of brace to the tailwheel to
keep it there. Then, I'd tow it down the highway sideways (long tongue on
trailer so the wing doesnt hit the back of the car!). Any thoughts on this
idea? I don't have any vertical obstructions between the airport and my
house, and I'd do this at 0500 on a Sunday morning to avoid too many cars on
the highway!
Dan
RV-6 Flying
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Jeff Orear" <jorear(at)mari.net> |
Scott:
Not sure if you received my off-list message, so I will attempt over the
list. (Sorry Guys). I would be happy to have you come down and have a look
at my 6A project. Send me an email off list if you are interested.
jorear(at)mari.net
Regards,
Jeff Orear
RV6A
Peshtigo, WI
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott and Pam Trask <PTrask(at)diisd.org>
Date: Monday, April 02, 2001 6:46 PM
Subject: RV6-List: new guy
>
> I'm looking at getting a RV6/7. What kind of runway does a guy need? 1000
>feet enough? Is there anyone that lives close to me who would mind if I
take
>a look at your project?
> Scott Trask
> Iron Mountain MI
> 49801
> (906) 779 9157
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Richard McCraw" <rmccraw(at)wcvt.com> |
Subject: | RE: Transporting assembled airplane |
I'm sure you've considered this, but I don't think you'd want to transport
the plane literally on its nose. I can't imagine the crankshaft, prop
attach, etc., are stressed for this, even if much of the weight is supported
elsewhere.
The only way I'd consider is a cradle for the wings. Even then, I wouldn't.
Again, it seems you're stressing structure in ways and directions for which
it wasn't designed.
Rick McCraw
rmccraw(at)wcvt.com
Bonanza pilot. Not a builder yet, but strongly considering an RV-7.
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: | Re: RV6-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 04/03/01 |
<<>>
Well... Originally I hadn't planned on removing the prop or cowl. But,
lately I've done some drawings and it appears I should remove both of them,
and perhaps support some of the weight via the engine mounts or perhaps even
the engine itself after doing so.
But the basic weight was going to be on the main gear, just tipped
forward. And there shouldn't be any weight on the nose (engine, prop, etc),
because the plane would being kept from tipping any further via a couple of
steel rods in an "A" shape connected to the tailwheel structure.
Imagine a triangle of support like this: main gear -- tail wheel-- steel
rods down to the trailer. The main gear wheels would be strapped or locked
into place on the trailer, also. Wish I could include a drawing here on this
email message.
The idea is to roll the plane onto the trailer from the side of the
trailer. The main gear would roll into a trough, and then I'd clamp the
axels down to the trailer.
Then, with the help of a friend (or non-volunteer wife), I'd attach the two
steel rods to the tail wheel structure somehow, and tip the plane up. The
rods would be just the right length to attach to the side of the trailer, in
a large "A" (seen from the side which is the back end of the airplane now.)
One rod would do it, but the plane might rock sideways (fore and aft on the
trailer) as the trailer accelerated and decelerated on the highway. So, I
figured two in an A shape would stablize it.
The idea of the tip-up is to narrow the plane down to single lane width
(well, close enough) so it wouldn't hit road signs or cars going the other
way on the highway!
A cradle for the wings -- I thought about that, as an additional
stabilization, and rejected -- leading edge of wings don't really have much
support inside to hold airplane weight -- the nose ribs really just keep the
leading edge 'out there' in the right place in the windstream in flight! Not
much else! But... That does give me an idea to provide additional support
at the TIE-DOWN rings which are attached directly to the much stronger wing
spar.
The wing spar is not really made for fore-aft loads which this would be if
tipped up, but... better than using the leading edge for support!
I've transported planes simply strapped down to a flat bed truck! But,
the wings sticking out sure gave the other traffic a fit!
I once used a car-carrier trailer I rented from Uhaul, and put a 500+
pound Sonerai II on it... The wings were folded back and pinned, however.
But the darn trailer weighed about 4 times the airplane weight, and my tiny
little Ford Fiesta overheated and burned up its brakes just going up and down
one hill into the San Fernando Valley coming from Oxnard! I towed it to
Garden Grove, where I rebuilt the plane. When it was ready to fly, I
developed a simple tow bar that attached to the tail wheel structure, turned
the plane around, and towed it 70mph on its OWN wheels out to Chino Airport
where it did its first flight! I took the wheel pants off for that one, but
later got so bold I never took 'em off again. John Monnett knew how to
design an airplane for highway towing backwards!
Dan
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From: | "Steve Sampson" <steve(at)lbho.freeserve.co.uk> |
Scott - your message interests me because I fly a Supercub out of a 1000'
grass strip and am shortly planning to order an RV9 kit. I would order a -7
except for the 1000'. Now I know nothing about building but do know a little
about operating off a short dirt strip.
The thing that I have learned is that lots of people will talk about what
they can do with their aircraft but getting them to do it is another thing.
An example was a guy with an Aviat Husky - a short field plane like the
S'cub. He could land in 300'....my strip would be 'no problem'. He arrived
overhead, circled round a bit and radioed he would go to the nearest
licensed airfield. In the later discussion his issues were 1) A low fence on
approach - true, 2) 40' trees at the end - true, 3) the wind was not
directly down but cross - true. (In other words a typical short strip! On
the particular day the grass was dry.) Now in my S'cub I go in and out
several times most weeks, usually land 75' beyond the fence and use another
300' to dissipate the energy - I approach around 45mph. It works but its
very easy to get wrong and use a lot more.
Saturday I had my first ride in an RV6. The owner / builder made no claims
to be a great pilot - he had about 400hrs on this aircraft - new I was
interested in its ability to land short but landed as he was comfortable. Of
the 2000' available he used at a guess 1100'. It was an in to wind runway.
My point is that there is a lot of talk but if all you have is 1000' you
have to do it right on the good days and the bad. When you are feeling A1
and when you are less than perfect. Doing it wrong once is once too many
times. If you need 1050' you will have a bent aeroplane. If you use 975'
you will have a severely stressed heart!
Now I expect there will be a wall of protest to this mail. I know Van's own
strip is short. I am sure many will say they neeed nothing like 1000', and I
am sure its true. I wonder how many regularly use a 1000' with a brick wall
at the end and perhaps have to accept a 5knot tailwind or 15/20 knots
gusting across - on a hot day with wet grass? Some I am sure CAN do it
safely.
For my part, later this month i am going to fly an RV9 at the factory then
(subject to my reaction) order. I will try to also fly a -7 but will take
LOTS of convincing.
Good luck! Steve.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott and Pam Trask" <PTrask(at)diisd.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 12:37 AM
Subject: RV6-List: new guy
>
> I'm looking at getting a RV6/7. What kind of runway does a guy need? 1000
> feet enough? Is there anyone that lives close to me who would mind if I
take
> a look at your project?
> Scott Trask
> Iron Mountain MI
> 49801
> (906) 779 9157
>
>
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From: | "jayeandscott" <jayeandscott(at)home.com> |
Subject: | Re: RV6-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 04/03/01 |
Brings to mind pictures of WW2 hangars here in Canada so full of Tiger Moths
that they stood them on their noses, row upon row. Didn't seem to hurt them
as they all went flying every day. However, they weren't transported in this
attitude and their landing gear was heavier and braced in multiple
directions.
----- Original Message -----
From: <DanJE(at)aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 1:08 AM
Subject: RV6-List: Re: RV6-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 04/03/01
>
> <<>>
>
> Well... Originally I hadn't planned on removing the prop or cowl. But,
> lately I've done some drawings and it appears I should remove both of
them,
> and perhaps support some of the weight via the engine mounts or perhaps
even
>
>
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From: | "jayeandscott" <jayeandscott(at)home.com> |
I learned to fly-right up through multi-IFR- at a strip considerably shorter
than 2000 feet with rising terrain and trees at the usual into-wind
departure end. It was at 19'asl and I wasn't experienced enough to notice
any difference. Now it looks quite short, thank you.
I don't have much time in RV's but have noticed that they seem to sink
quickly below about 70mph yet have an enormous ground cushion that they
won't three-point through till 50 or less. This leads to either a
high-power, low airspeed approach or a long float in ground effect. I'm
guessing it's a characteristic of the short-span, wide-chord RV wing.
Sock it to me!
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Sampson <steve(at)lbho.freeserve.co.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 3:29 AM
Subject: Re: RV6-List: new guy
>
> Scott - your message interests me because I fly a Supercub out of a 1000'
> grass strip and am shortly planning to order an RV9 kit. I would order
a -7
> except for the 1000'. Now I know nothing about building but do know a
little
> about operating off a short dirt strip.
>
> The thing that I have learned is that lots of people will talk about what
> they can do with their aircraft but getting them to do it is another
thing.
> An example was a guy with an Aviat Husky - a short field plane like the
> S'cub. He could land in 300'....my strip would be 'no problem'. He arrived
> overhead, circled round a bit and radioed he would go to the nearest
> licensed airfield. In the later discussion his issues were 1) A low fence
on
> approach - true, 2) 40' trees at the end - true, 3) the wind was not
> directly down but cross - true. (In other words a typical short strip! On
> the particular day the grass was dry.) Now in my S'cub I go in and out
> several times most weeks, usually land 75' beyond the fence and use
another
> 300' to dissipate the energy - I approach around 45mph. It works but its
> very easy to get wrong and use a lot more.
>
> Saturday I had my first ride in an RV6. The owner / builder made no claims
> to be a great pilot - he had about 400hrs on this aircraft - new I was
> interested in its ability to land short but landed as he was comfortable.
Of
> the 2000' available he used at a guess 1100'. It was an in to wind runway.
>
> My point is that there is a lot of talk but if all you have is 1000' you
> have to do it right on the good days and the bad. When you are feeling A1
> and when you are less than perfect. Doing it wrong once is once too many
> times. If you need 1050' you will have a bent aeroplane. If you use 975'
> you will have a severely stressed heart!
>
> Now I expect there will be a wall of protest to this mail. I know Van's
own
> strip is short. I am sure many will say they neeed nothing like 1000', and
I
> am sure its true. I wonder how many regularly use a 1000' with a brick
wall
> at the end and perhaps have to accept a 5knot tailwind or 15/20 knots
> gusting across - on a hot day with wet grass? Some I am sure CAN do it
> safely.
>
> For my part, later this month i am going to fly an RV9 at the factory then
> (subject to my reaction) order. I will try to also fly a -7 but will take
> LOTS of convincing.
>
> Good luck! Steve.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott and Pam Trask" <PTrask(at)diisd.org>
> To: "RV6"
> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 12:37 AM
> Subject: RV6-List: new guy
>
>
> >
> > I'm looking at getting a RV6/7. What kind of runway does a guy need?
1000
> > feet enough? Is there anyone that lives close to me who would mind if I
> take
> > a look at your project?
> > Scott Trask
> > Iron Mountain MI
> > 49801
> > (906) 779 9157
> >
> >
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Scott and Pam Trask <PTrask(at)diisd.org> |
on 4/4/01 5:29 AM, Steve Sampson at steve(at)lbho.freeserve.co.uk wrote:
>
> Scott - your message interests me because I fly a Supercub out of a 1000'
> grass strip and am shortly planning to order an RV9 kit. I would order a -7
> except for the 1000'. Now I know nothing about building but do know a little
> about operating off a short dirt strip.
>
> The thing that I have learned is that lots of people will talk about what
> they can do with their aircraft but getting them to do it is another thing.
> An example was a guy with an Aviat Husky - a short field plane like the
> S'cub. He could land in 300'....my strip would be 'no problem'. He arrived
> overhead, circled round a bit and radioed he would go to the nearest
> licensed airfield. In the later discussion his issues were 1) A low fence on
> approach - true, 2) 40' trees at the end - true, 3) the wind was not
> directly down but cross - true. (In other words a typical short strip! On
> the particular day the grass was dry.) Now in my S'cub I go in and out
> several times most weeks, usually land 75' beyond the fence and use another
> 300' to dissipate the energy - I approach around 45mph. It works but its
> very easy to get wrong and use a lot more.
>
> Saturday I had my first ride in an RV6. The owner / builder made no claims
> to be a great pilot - he had about 400hrs on this aircraft - new I was
> interested in its ability to land short but landed as he was comfortable. Of
> the 2000' available he used at a guess 1100'. It was an in to wind runway.
>
> My point is that there is a lot of talk but if all you have is 1000' you
> have to do it right on the good days and the bad. When you are feeling A1
> and when you are less than perfect. Doing it wrong once is once too many
> times. If you need 1050' you will have a bent aeroplane. If you use 975'
> you will have a severely stressed heart!
>
> Now I expect there will be a wall of protest to this mail. I know Van's own
> strip is short. I am sure many will say they neeed nothing like 1000', and I
> am sure its true. I wonder how many regularly use a 1000' with a brick wall
> at the end and perhaps have to accept a 5knot tailwind or 15/20 knots
> gusting across - on a hot day with wet grass? Some I am sure CAN do it
> safely.
>
> For my part, later this month i am going to fly an RV9 at the factory then
> (subject to my reaction) order. I will try to also fly a -7 but will take
> LOTS of convincing.
>
> Good luck! Steve.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott and Pam Trask" <PTrask(at)diisd.org>
> To: "RV6"
> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 12:37 AM
> Subject: RV6-List: new guy
>
>
>>
>> I'm looking at getting a RV6/7. What kind of runway does a guy need? 1000
>> feet enough? Is there anyone that lives close to me who would mind if I
> take
>> a look at your project?
>> Scott Trask
>> Iron Mountain MI
>> 49801
>> (906) 779 9157
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
Hi Steve
Thanks for your response. Sounds like you have a lot of fun flying as well.
I've gotten a number of responses off-list as well. I've heard stories of
1000 feet being enough roam but I figured that would be with ideal
conditions with some hours under your belt. I do have the land to extend the
runway, but my father used to own the property and he still lives there (he
is 76). He had years ago planted trees and if I would cut them down it would
hurt his feelings. Some day I'll have a nice long strip. Then I'll have to
have a fly-in.
I fly a Kolb Twinstar MK111 1000 flight hrs. I built it and completed it
in 1989. I built my house attached to the hanger so I'm spoiled. Next plane
I don't want to have to drive to an airport to fly it. I wouldn't mind doing
that for awhile. I like the RVs so you can see that it's not an easy
decision for me.
Scott Trask
Iron Mountain MI
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From: | dplute <dplute(at)onemain.com> |
Does anyone out there know if the Westech cht probe # 713-5w or the egt
probe #713-2dwk will work with Vans gauges? Aircraft Spruce has not
answered my inquiry.
thanks
Doyal R. Plute rv-6a n# 4dp builder
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From: | "mdelano" <mdelano(at)qwest.net> |
Subject: | Re: CHT/EGT probes: |
Check out Aeroelectric and omega.com. Omaga has a huge amount of
information on temp measurement. I have made my own CHT probes for a
fraction of the cost Van wants. Westac probes will work just make sure you
get type K for CHT. I do not know what Vans EGT requires. Alcor gages use a
type J.I can provide more info on fabricating your own probes if you are
interested
Mark Delano
6a finish
EAA Tech Coun.
dplute wrote:
>
> Does anyone out there know if the Westech cht probe # 713-5w or the egt
> probe #713-2dwk will work with Vans gauges? Aircraft Spruce has not
> answered my inquiry.
> thanks
> Doyal R. Plute rv-6a n# 4dp builder
>
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From: | Robert Blum <bob(at)theblums.net> |
Subject: | Discovery Channel RV8 series |
The east coast feed of discovery channel is broadcasting a 13 week series on
building an RV-8. It is NOT being broadcast on the Pacific Coast feed.
Did anyone tape it? can you dub a copy for me?
email
mailto:bob(at)theblums.net
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From: | "John Lenhardt" <jtl258(at)home.com> |
Subject: | Re: Discovery Channel RV8 series |
Here's the URL where the broadcast schedule for the series "From the Ground
Up" can be located and you can have an email reminder sent to yourself...
http://wings.discovery.com/. I'd like to see this series too if anyone can
tape it. It started yesterday, but espisode 1 will be re-aired today. See
below:
From the Ground Up - Episode 1
Take a look at the tools needed and learn some tips for getting started
while the RV-8 arrives. Get a feel for space and time constraints, and an
appreciation for the process. Also, visit another homebuilder already hard
at work in his own garage.
----
Air Time(s) Eastern/Pacific Time:
WNG Apr 8 2001 8:00 PM
WNG Apr 8 2001 11:00 PM
WNG Apr 9 2001 4:00 AM
WNG Apr 9 2001 7:00 AM
WNG Apr 9 2001 12:00 PM
WNG Apr 9 2001 3:00 PM
----
John Lenhardt
jtl258(at)home.com
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: | Re: Discovery Channel RV8 series |
I sure would like to see it also, but alas, it's not in my Michigan area
either. If anyone would tape the series, I would be interested if obtaining
it.
Pat
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: | Re: Discovery Channel RV8 series |
Hi John,
I am building a RV8 here in Germany. I am quite interested in that broadcast,
but cannot afford to travel to the States to see it.
Do you have any idea where I could get the tape from?
Stephan Servatius
romeo.victor@t-online.de
John Lenhardt schrieb:
>
> Here's the URL where the broadcast schedule for the series "From the Ground
> Up" can be located and you can have an email reminder sent to yourself...
> http://wings.discovery.com/. I'd like to see this series too if anyone can
> tape it. It started yesterday, but espisode 1 will be re-aired today. See
> below:
>
> >From the Ground Up - Episode 1
>
> Take a look at the tools needed and learn some tips for getting started
> while the RV-8 arrives. Get a feel for space and time constraints, and an
> appreciation for the process. Also, visit another homebuilder already hard
> at work in his own garage.
>
> ----
> Air Time(s) Eastern/Pacific Time:
> WNG Apr 8 2001 8:00 PM
> WNG Apr 8 2001 11:00 PM
> WNG Apr 9 2001 4:00 AM
> WNG Apr 9 2001 7:00 AM
> WNG Apr 9 2001 12:00 PM
> WNG Apr 9 2001 3:00 PM
> ----
>
> John Lenhardt
> jtl258(at)home.com
>
>
Stephan Servatius
Untere Hauptstr. 3
85461 Bockhorn
Germany
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From: | "James D. Ivey" <jim(at)iveylaw.com> |
Subject: | Discovery Channel RV8 series |
I don't get Discovery Wings either. I'm watching for the series to
eventually be available at the Discovery Channel's online store:
http://shopping.discovery.com/
They have most of their content available on tape/DVD -- eventually.
Regards,
Jim Ivey
jim(at)iveylaw.com
Oakland, California
> -----Original Message-----
>
> I am building a RV8 here in Germany. I am quite interested in
> that broadcast,
> but cannot afford to travel to the States to see it.
>
> Do you have any idea where I could get the tape from?
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Steven DiNieri" <capsteve(at)adelphia.net> |
Subject: | Discovery Channel RV8 series |
I'm taping the series and will begin encoding them to QuickTime or ms media
and get someone to post 'em for listers to download. The first episode was
just fluff, no real content we didn't already know. Aka , what a qwikbuild
kit is etc......
Steven DiNieri
Niagara Falls, New York
RV-6A, P28A-160
Hi John,
I am building a RV8 here in Germany. I am quite interested in that
broadcast,
but cannot afford to travel to the States to see it.
Do you have any idea where I could get the tape from?
Stephan Servatius
romeo.victor@t-online.de
John Lenhardt schrieb:
>
> Here's the URL where the broadcast schedule for the series "From the
Ground
> Up" can be located and you can have an email reminder sent to yourself...
> http://wings.discovery.com/. I'd like to see this series too if anyone
can
> tape it. It started yesterday, but espisode 1 will be re-aired today.
See
> below:
>
> >From the Ground Up - Episode 1
>
> Take a look at the tools needed and learn some tips for getting started
> while the RV-8 arrives. Get a feel for space and time constraints, and an
> appreciation for the process. Also, visit another homebuilder already hard
> at work in his own garage.
>
> ----
> Air Time(s) Eastern/Pacific Time:
> WNG Apr 8 2001 8:00 PM
> WNG Apr 8 2001 11:00 PM
> WNG Apr 9 2001 4:00 AM
> WNG Apr 9 2001 7:00 AM
> WNG Apr 9 2001 12:00 PM
> WNG Apr 9 2001 3:00 PM
> ----
>
> John Lenhardt
> jtl258(at)home.com
>
>
Stephan Servatius
Untere Hauptstr. 3
85461 Bockhorn
Germany
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From: | "jginth" <jginth(at)email.msn.com> |
Anyone on the list that went to sun and fun and saw the new RV 7? Van's
site said that they were going to try and have it there. Just wanted to
know what was thought of it- Does it seam much different at all then
the 6?
John
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From: | "Michael D. Bender" <mbender(at)ambientdesigns.com> |
Hi there John,
Yes, the RV-7 is/was indeed there! Very pretty.
I'm sure someone on this list that has great
experience with the 6 and saw the 7 at Sun N Fun
can tell us both what he/she thinks!
Michael
:-)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of jginth
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 6:28 PM
Subject: RV6-List: Sun-N-Fun
Anyone on the list that went to sun and fun and saw the new RV 7? Van's
site said that they were going to try and have it there. Just wanted to
know what was thought of it- Does it seam much different at all then
the 6?
John
________________________________________________________________________________
I sure like the plane, I wished that I would have waited for it ... I am too
far along with my RV-6 to stop now....
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Ross" <rmickey(at)ix.netcom.com> |
Subject: | RV-6 vs RV-7 was Sun-N-Fun |
>: MLSRV6(at)aol.com
> I sure like the plane, I wished that I would have waited for it ... I am
too
> far along with my RV-6 to stop now....
Why? I stood around the 7 for a long while discussing the differences
between the two with Gus at Vans. My conclusion was that I was glad I had
the 6...A that is. If you are far along, the benifits of the ease of
building of the 7 is not a factor. Performance wise, the 6 is just as good
if not better with a 180 HP vs the 200 HP in the 7. What is it about the 7
that makes you wih you could go with it?
Ross......defender of the 6....A that is
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Subject: | Sun-N-Fun"Vans Banquet" |
The Banquet was fun and informative I learned the difference between a CEO
and an engineer. Van was the only one that wore a tie, well sort of - you had
to be there. Van talked about the 4 place. He said that the 4 place is
actively under design and will be about 18 mo to 2 years out. The RV7 and RV9
got in the way and slowed down the design. That is what I got out of it. The
4 place is comming. While talking to Tom Green at the display tent about
the 4 place the decision on the engine has not been made yet, Lycoming or
Contintinal Just happen to have won a door prize=
a Rite Angle of Attack, made some new friends. Had a lot of SUN and FUN.
Terry E. Cole N468TC
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From: | Bobpaulo(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Re: RV6-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 04/13/01 |
Does anyone know the positon of the rear seats of this new four placer-facing
forward or toward the rear? Bob
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From: | "Nancy Jean Burkholder" <nancyb(at)mninter.net> |
Subject: | Re: Westach fuel level system |
>>Any feedback on performance of Westach products?
I used Westach products on an ultralight I owned back in '95. I had a dual
CHT/EGT. I had no complaints about their performance. However, I wouldn't
put them in my RV. That's my personal preference. I don't think I would
have the confidence in them that I would have in the other aviation gages
that are going to populate my panel. They were fine for my ultralight, but
I will be using my RV for way more demanding missions, and for that I am
willing to pay for a higher grade of instruments.
nancy b. "Good people are always so sure they're right."
Barbara Graham's last words
Executed June 5, 1955 at San Quentin
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From: | Doug and Kelly Snead <kellyndoug(at)yahoo.com> |
rv9-list(at)matronics.com
To any new RV builder,
> I have some basic tools for sale that I bought
> from Avery and from the Yard. If you would like
more
> information please write or call at:
>
> kellyndoug(at)yahoo.com
> 580-233-8997
>
>
> Doug
> Enid, OK
Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices
http://auctions.yahoo.com/
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Robert Attaway" <attaway(at)earthlink.net> |
Hey Doug, Thanks for the offer on those tools but I don't need any. But if
I here of someone I will send them to you.
Thanks, Robbie
PS check out my web site www.attawayair.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Doug and Kelly
Snead
Sent: 4/25/2001 7:34:38 AM
Subject: RV6-List: tools for sale
-- RV6-List message posted by: Doug and Kelly Snead kellyndoug(at)yahoo.com
To any new RV builder,
I have some basic tools for sale that I
bought
from Avery and from the Yard. If you would like
more
information please write or call at:
kellyndoug(at)yahoo.com
580-233-8997
Doug
Enid, OK
Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices
http://auctions.yahoo.com/
http://www.matronics.com/order
--- Robert Attaway
--- attaway(at)earthlink.net
--- EarthLink: It's your Internet.
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From: | windsaloft(at)rmisp.com (Terri Watson) |
Subject: | scoring the angle aluminum - HS-610 |
When cutting out the AA6 3/4 x 3/4 angle iron to fabricate the HS-610 for
the front spar, I let the saw blade drift a bit and got a bit of a score
across the flange tongue of the aluminum. It is 1-5/16" from the tip, and
appears to be 1/64" deep, going all the way across. Two rivets would be
outside this when fastened to the forward spar.
There are a couple of other nicks and scores, mostly scotchbrite-able, from
clamps, etc.
I am learning lots on this educational project, and am pretty certain that I
should get another aluminum angle and start again as the score above seems
like it would focus stress and be the ideal fracture spot for the spar.
But, I wanted to ask -- how deep is too deep for something like that? If
you can't smooth it out with scotch brite, is it so deep that it will
concentrate force and fracture? Is there some rule of thumb of score depth
vs. bar thickness?
While I am striving for perfection, I am also trying to learn when to sweat
it and when to not!
Thanks, feel free to reply on or off line.
Terri Watson
Lander, WY
RV-6 to 7 fwd spar, HS
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: | Re: scoring the angle aluminum - HS-610 |
From: | Tedd McHenry <tedd(at)vansairforce.org> |
Terri:
I damaged my HS610 and had to make another. It seemed like a painful choice
at the time, because it was the first mistake like that I'd made. But it
wasn't the last, and I'm sure there will be many more.
Without looking at the part I don't want to venture an opinion. But I will
say that if you feel at all uncomfortable about it you should probably redo
it. It's not that big a deal in the overall scheme of things, and you'll
probably feel better about it afterward.
By the way, I prevented further nicks and scratches by taping strips of beer
can material to the surfaces I wanted to protect each time I used a file or
saw blade. It worked like a charm. You can file the flange stub right down
to a few thou thick that way, and then the Scotchbrite wheel easily takes
the remainder right off.
Tedd McHenry
Surrey, BC
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | d.meloche(at)att.net |
Subject: | Re: scoring the angle aluminum - HS-610 |
A .015" deep cut in .063" stock reduces the area in the
affected section 25%. This will increase the stresses by
the same factor (not including stress concentration
effects). Since this part of the stabilizer is highly
loaded (root end) I would replace the part. Anyway by
the time you blended out the cut by a 10/1 ratio you
could have made a new part. Get used to it, you'll be
doing a lot more replacing by the time your done.
Good luck
Doug Meloche
rv6 ordering finish kit
>
> When cutting out the AA6 3/4 x 3/4 angle iron to fabricate the HS-610 for
> the front spar, I let the saw blade drift a bit and got a bit of a score
> across the flange tongue of the aluminum. It is 1-5/16" from the tip, and
> appears to be 1/64" deep, going all the way across. Two rivets would be
> outside this when fastened to the forward spar.
>
> There are a couple of other nicks and scores, mostly scotchbrite-able, from
> clamps, etc.
>
> I am learning lots on this educational project, and am pretty certain that I
> should get another aluminum angle and start again as the score above seems
> like it would focus stress and be the ideal fracture spot for the spar.
> But, I wanted to ask -- how deep is too deep for something like that? If
> you can't smooth it out with scotch brite, is it so deep that it will
> concentrate force and fracture? Is there some rule of thumb of score depth
> vs. bar thickness?
>
> While I am striving for perfection, I am also trying to learn when to sweat
> it and when to not!
>
> Thanks, feel free to reply on or off line.
>
> Terri Watson
> Lander, WY
> RV-6 to 7 fwd spar, HS
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From: | ENewton57(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Re: scoring the angle aluminum - HS-610 |
As previous posters said, the part is critical enough that I would replace
it. Also, order the angle stock from wicks or ACS and get some extra to have
around the shop. Believe me you will use it eventually not just for any
mistakes you might make, but you'll also find that as you near completion you
are having to fabricate a lot of things (i.e. radio stacks, supports for
firewall mounted items, etc.)
Replace it and move on with confidence that it was done right.
Eric Newton - Long Beach, Mississippi
RV-6A N57ME (Reserved) (wiring)
http://www.ericsrv6a.com
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From: | Normanjd(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Re: RV6-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 05/13/01 |
Hi, I am building an RV6 and am at the point of assembling the cabin frame.
I have seen some RV6's that used flush head screws to attach the Plexiglas to
the cabin frame (tip up canopy). Does this require installing platenuts
prior to closing this assembly? I have had difficulty straightening the
frame parts and getting the outside surface smooth for contact with the
Plexiglas. Has anyone had any experience in these areas that would help me?
Thanks, Norman Donaldson Grosse Ile Michigan.
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From: | "john white" <jakeaire(at)msn.com> |
Subject: | RV6-List Digest: 2main wheel fairings & 3 gear leg fairings |
for sale
1) i spent a considerable amount for new fairings(the big ones)
2) -the small amount of increased speed, say 2 or 3 mph is probably
not worth all that work. that is the old ones are about as good as
the new!!!!
3) anyway the old ones are for sale -2 main wheel & 3 gearleg fairings, and
since they are constructed already- just screw them on. $
100.
contact jake on jakeaire(at)msn.com
"http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com
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From: | "john white" <jakeaire(at)msn.com> |
Subject: | manifold pressure line |
does anyone know what size drain hole should be in the line that travels
from the firewall to the cylinder(engine)??
this line provides the vacuum necessary to get a manifold pressure reading. i'd
appreciate your help!!!
"http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com
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From: | doyal plute <dplute(at)onemain.com> |
Subject: | Engine baffles RV6A |
I am just finishing the engine baffles as provided by Vans. I am
wondering...instead of trying to seal top of baffles to top cowl with
fabric like Van shows... why not even up top of baffles bend over a lip
and put an alluminum top cover on with plate nuts to seal baffle
system? The advantages I see are: tighter sealing with no pressure on
top cowl, and better fire containment in case of engine fire. However
there may be a (gotcha) in there somewhere that I do not know about!
I would welcome any feedback from anyone who has, (been-there-done-that)
Thanks:
Doyal RV6A N4DP (res) 1003 hrs on project to date
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Boyd C. Braem" <bcbraem(at)home.com> |
Subject: | Re: Engine baffles RV6A |
What you're describing is a plenum cover--widely used and much more
efficient than the baffle strips. Mine is made out of fiberglass, but
the idea is the same. Go for it!!
Boyd
doyal plute wrote:
>
>
> I am just finishing the engine baffles as provided by Vans. I am
> wondering...instead of trying to seal top of baffles to top cowl with
> fabric like Van shows... why not even up top of baffles bend over a lip
> and put an alluminum top cover on with plate nuts to seal baffle
> system? The advantages I see are: tighter sealing with no pressure on
> top cowl, and better fire containment in case of engine fire. However
> there may be a (gotcha) in there somewhere that I do not know about!
> I would welcome any feedback from anyone who has, (been-there-done-that)
>
> Thanks:
> Doyal RV6A N4DP (res) 1003 hrs on project to date
>
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: | Re: RV-List: Engine baffles RV6A |
From: | james freeman <flyeyes(at)bellsouth.net> |
on 5/23/01 4:50 PM, doyal plute at dplute(at)onemain.com wrote:
> I am just finishing the engine baffles as provided by Vans. I am
> wondering...instead of trying to seal top of baffles to top cowl with
> fabric like Van shows... why not even up top of baffles bend over a lip
> and put an alluminum top cover on with plate nuts to seal baffle
> system?
Don Eaves here in Memphis did exactly that on his RV6. AFAIK it's working
well. I have some pictures of his installation I'd be happy to e-mail you
or post somewhere if somebody will host them.
He did mention at one point rather than use 4 million nutplates he should
have used piano hinge... ;-)
James Freeman
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "James D. Ivey" <jim(at)iveylaw.com> |
Subject: | RE: Engine baffles RV6A |
> Don Eaves here in Memphis did exactly that on his RV6. AFAIK
> it's working
> well. I have some pictures of his installation I'd be happy
> to e-mail you
> or post somewhere if somebody will host them.
There's also www.zing.com, www.photoworks.com, www.ofoto.com,
www.shutterfly.com, www.idrive.com, etc.
I'd love to see the pics. Does the baffle interfere with preflight
inspections?
Jim Ivey
jim(at)iveylaw.com;
Oakland, CA
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | ENewton57(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Re: Engine baffles RV6A |
Gary did something similar to what you describe (I think). I was kind of waiting
to see if he responded - Gary? you out there? Anyway, you can check it out
at his wedsite at:
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/5379/index.html
Click on Firewall Forward and scroll down.
Eric Newton - Long Beach. MS
RV-6A (Cowl)
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Jim Norman, MD" <jnorman(at)InterMapSystems.com> |
Subject: | Toggle Switch for Electronic vs Magneto |
Since we are having an interesting thread here, how about this question...
My new IO-360 from Bart came 2 days ago. It has lightspeed CDI in place of
one mag, and then a standard Slick mag.
Surprisingly, there is absolutely no form of instruction on how to wire this
ignition system. I found lots of info on the Lighspeed web site on how to
wire their system, but it stops way short of saying how to switch it, or
what to do with the magneto.
What say all of you?
jim
Tampa
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "James D. Ivey" <jim(at)iveylaw.com> |
Subject: | RE: Engine baffles RV6A |
> There's also www.zing.com, www.photoworks.com, www.ofoto.com,
> www.shutterfly.com, www.idrive.com, etc.
Don't know why, but the first line of my message got clipped off.
All these sites are free.
Looking forward to the pics.
Jim Ivey
jim(at)iveylaw.com
Oakland, CA
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "James D. Ivey" <jim(at)iveylaw.com> |
Subject: | RE: Engine baffles RV6A |
> Don't know why, but the first line of my message got clipped off.
Jeez! Cut off again. Anyone know why? Let's see if this gets through the
thought-police....
H T T P :
two slashes
photos
dot
y a h o o
dot
com
Treat that as an experimental URL kit -- quickbuild....
Jim Ivey
jim(at)iveylaw.com
Oakland, CA
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | doyal plute <dplute(at)onemain.com> |
Subject: | Compass location: |
I am starting on my panel layout on my RV6A and I have a question:
I am contemplating mounting my compass in the lower left corner of my
panel.
Has anyone mounted their compass here, and if so what were the results?
Was it satisfactory or did it show a lot of deviation? My original plan
was to mount the compass top center in panel ,but that put it within 6
inches of radio stack, which Vans says is to close.
Sincerely:
Doyal Plute N4dp resv.
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Tim Lewis" <timrv6a(at)earthlink.net> |
Subject: | Re: Compass location: |
I mounted mine above the "basic 6" instruments. It works OK. I was
able to swing it to within a couple of degrees. The problem is, when I
turn on the landing lights, taxi lights, and/or the pitot heat, the
compass swings up to 30 degrees. Even the panel lights cause it to
swing. The wires for all these functions (except the panel lights) run
along the bottom of the panel, while the compass is at the top of the
panel.
More separation would reduce the effect, therefore I recommend you
consider mounting the compass on the canopy support (assuming
you have a slider) to increase the distance between the compass and
the high-current wiring of lights and pitot heat.
Tim
On 3 Jun 2001, at 22:18, doyal plute wrote:
>
> I am starting on my panel layout on my RV6A and I have a question: I
> am contemplating mounting my compass in the lower left corner of my
> panel. Has anyone mounted their compass here, and if so what were the
> results? Was it satisfactory or did it show a lot of deviation? My
> original plan was to mount the compass top center in panel ,but that
> put it within 6 inches of radio stack, which Vans says is to close.
> Sincerely: Doyal Plute N4dp resv.
>
>
>
>
>
>
******
Tim Lewis -- Springfield VA
RV-6A N47TD - First Flight 18 Dec 99
http://www.geocities.com/timrv6a
******
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: | Re: RV6 Rear Top Skin |
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Gary & Sandi" <flying(at)3rivers.net> |
Subject: | Tip-up vs Slider |
I am doing the "Tip-up vs Slider" canopy debate. I'd like to know how
many builders have chosen each type, and why. Do the tip-ups offer
enough ventilation while taxiing? Are they hard to seal? Strong enough
when open in windy conditions? What do you guys think?
I am building a -9A, but I assume there is very little functional
difference between the 9 and the 6 in the canopy. Thought I'd ask you
guys who have been flying yours for a while.
Thanks,
Gary Crowder
Belt, Montana
#90263 on the wings
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: | Tip-up vs Slider |
> I am doing the "Tip-up vs Slider" canopy debate. I'd like to know
Gary Crowder
I've flown in both "TU & S" and prefer the slider for reasons mentioned
by others especially the taxing and wind. The down side is access behind
the panel. The instrument panel should be mounted for easy removal or
access panels installed - - a real must.
Tom Jones Chevy powered Tip Up & Buick powered Slider. Belted Air
Powered. RV6As
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Tedd McHenry <tedd(at)vansairforce.org> |
Tom:
snip
> Tom Jones Chevy powered Tip Up & Buick powered Slider. Belted Air
> Powered. RV6As
I'm interested in your Buick conversion. Is it a 215 or a V6? I've been
told that the Buick V6 is lighter than the Chevy V6--lighter even than the
Buick 215. What have you found?
Tedd McHenry
Surrey, BC
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Jeffrey" <jrein(at)tdin.com> |
Subject: | Re: Tip-up vs Slider |
Gary, I have flown both the tip-up and slider versions of thr Rv-6. I also
own a 6a w/ a tip-up. The biggest difference I can see is visibility. On the
slider the roll bar is fwd of you and slightly above your forehead. There is
also the center post, which in my opinion also deters from visibilty. On the
tip-up the roll bar is behind you . The visibility is truely noticiably
better. Now some may argue that in windy conditions the canopy is less
stable. This is partly true. But just as you wouldn't let your flight
controls "slop" around why ,why you let your canopy. The fix is very easy,
you just close the canopy on to the taxi latch. I have also installed a sun
shield which helps keep the temps down inside while the canopy is down if it
is windy. As far as taxing, I have the NACA scoops installed and big
"eyeball sockets" that bring in plenty of fresh air from the prop wash.There
is also an added benefit from the tip-up which I personally don't put too
much wait on nor would soley base my decision. That is accessibilty to
behind the panel. Of the years of had mine, maybe just once I had to really
get behind the panel. I recommend that if you could sit in both and close
the canopy, and get the "feel" you'll make a choice. In my opinion, its all
about visiblity..Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary & Sandi <flying(at)3rivers.net>
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 9:54 AM
Subject: RV6-List: Tip-up vs Slider
>
> I am doing the "Tip-up vs Slider" canopy debate. I'd like to know how
> many builders have chosen each type, and why. Do the tip-ups offer
> enough ventilation while taxiing? Are they hard to seal? Strong enough
> when open in windy conditions? What do you guys think?
>
> I am building a -9A, but I assume there is very little functional
> difference between the 9 and the 6 in the canopy. Thought I'd ask you
> guys who have been flying yours for a while.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gary Crowder
> Belt, Montana
> #90263 on the wings
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "James D. Ivey" <jim(at)iveylaw.com> |
Subject: | Tip-up vs Slider |
I'm curious about an aspect nobody's mentioned yet. I sat in a 9A at last
year's Golden West and it had a slider canopy with an overhead sliding
curtain. I could feel a huge difference in pilot head temperature with and
without the curtain overhead (my hair doesn't insulate nearly as well as it
used to).
I've seen sticky plastic shades stuck inside tip-ups -- aesthetically
challenged, IMHO. I've also seen painted tip-ups to provide shade. And, of
course, I've seen many baseball caps inside tip-ups. What else do people do
for shade in tip-ups? Can one install the sliding curtains?
Thanks,
Jim Ivey
jim(at)iveylaw.com
Oakland, CA
________________________________________________________________________________
> snip> Chevy powered Tip Up & Buick powered Slider. Belted
> Air> > Powered. RV6As
>
> I'm interested in your Buick conversion. Is it a 215 or a V6? I've
> been> told that the Buick V6 is lighter than the Chevy V6--lighter even
> than the> Buick 215. What have you found?> Tedd McHenry> Surrey, BC
>
The Buick that I referred to was owned by Glen Smith. It is a 215 all
aluminum V8 and it is lighter than the Chevy V6. At this time I believe
Belted Air Power is not supplying the Buick conversion but concentrating
on the installation of the Chevy V6 in Van's aircraft as it produces more
power and is readily available, whereas the Buick is becoming rather
scarce. I'm not familiar with the Buick V6 weights. Although we all
like to "keep it light" I don't believe the all cast iron Chevy V6 is out
of line weight wise. Jess Meyers RV6A has the cast iron engine in it
without any necessary changes to weight & balance. It balances just as
any RV powered Lycoming does with a constant speed prop. With a three
paddle blade Warp Drive fixed pitch prop it performs equal to or better
than an 0320 with a constant speed. Of course the original and
subsequent maintenance cost is but a fraction of the Lycomings.
Tom Jones
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: | Re: Tip-up vs Slider |
Gary & Sandi,
All of us who fly put a certain amount of consideration into the safety
aspects of flying.. Any option you choose should be done with safety in
mind. I think the canopy decision is one of these options. I would
suggests that you look at the three view drawings of the RV6s in Van's
Aircraft web page. Lay a straight edge over the drawing of the tip up with
the straight edge touching the top of the cowling and the top of the
vertical fin. Drop it down a couple of inches to allow for crushing of the
fin and see what would hit the ground first in the event of a flip over that
ended up side down. Do the same with drawing of the slider. You will see
that your head will strike the ground before the rear roll over bar touches
the ground in the tip up. The forward roll over bar in the slider would
stand a lot better chance of protecting you. This type of accident does
happen and fairly frequently. You would have a much better chance of
escaping with a slider. The tip up would be impossible to get out of.
These two factors made my decision for me. Mine is a 6A with slider. Good
luck
Leon York
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary & Sandi" <flying(at)3rivers.net>
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 8:54 AM
Subject: RV6-List: Tip-up vs Slider
>
> I am doing the "Tip-up vs Slider" canopy debate. I'd like to know how
> many builders have chosen each type, and why. Do the tip-ups offer
> enough ventilation while taxiing? Are they hard to seal? Strong enough
> when open in windy conditions? What do you guys think?
>
> I am building a -9A, but I assume there is very little functional
> difference between the 9 and the 6 in the canopy. Thought I'd ask you
> guys who have been flying yours for a while.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gary Crowder
> Belt, Montana
> #90263 on the wings
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: | Re: Tip-up vs Slider |
From: | Tedd McHenry <tedd(at)vansairforce.org> |
snip
> Any option you choose should be done with safety in
> mind. I think the canopy decision is one of these options.
If it were clear that you would not survive a tip-over with a tip-up canopy,
and clear that you would survive a tip-over with a slider, it would still
not be a decisive factor for me. I believe the probability of a tip-over is
pretty small (though I agree that the consequences could be very high). On
the other hand, I will live with other consequences of my choice of canopy
every time I fly or work on my plane.
And it isn't clear at all that one canopy is significantly safer than the
other in a tip-over. I accept that there might be a small advantage in
survivability with a slider, but I suspect it's awfully small. Both
roll-over bars are a joke compared to what is used in racing cars of the
same weight as an RV, so I'm not inclined to count on either one for much
protection.
I haven't yet decided what canopy I will build, but safety will not be a
consideration.
Tedd McHenry
Surrey, BC
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Richard McCraw" <rmccraw(at)wcvt.com> |
Subject: | Tip-up vs Slider |
Regarding the slider's rollover bar: Is it really a rollover bar? Does it
have the structural integrity to protect you much against the weight of an
airplane?
Conversely, if rollovers are more-or-less frequent occurrences, does the
tip-up have a better record of protecting the pilot?
Rick McCraw
Beech A36 N2044W
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "James D. Ivey" <jim(at)iveylaw.com> |
Subject: | Tip-up vs Slider |
> Regarding the slider's rollover bar: Is it really a rollover
> bar? Does it
> have the structural integrity to protect you much against the
> weight of an
> airplane?
At last year's Golden West, the Van's people kindly reminded me repeatedly
to not grab the windscreen frame as I got into and out of the RV9A there.
That suggests to me that the windscreen/canopy frame is pretty fragile and
would not support the weight of the plane.
Anybody else know different? For proper appreciation of context, I weigh
about 250 (but still much lighter than an RV with engine, fuel, avionics,
prop, etc.).
Regards,
Jim Ivey
jim(at)iveylaw.com
Oakland, CA
RVator Wannabe
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: | Re: Tip-up vs Slider |
From: | Tedd McHenry <tedd(at)vansairforce.org> |
I'm sure there are current SCCA members out there who can provide more
accurate information, but here is my recollection of the requirements for
race car rollover protection. The design loads are 9 times the vehicle
weight vertically, combined with 6 times vehicle weight laterally, and three
times vehicle weight longitudinally. For an RV-6/6A, those would be loads
of 14,850 pounds vertically, 9,900 pounds laterally, and 4,950 pounds
longitudinally. I believe it is a point load at the highest point of the
structure.
I'm pretty darned sure the roll bars in both the slider and the tip-up fall
somewhat short of what would be required to sustain those loads.
Tedd McHenry
Surrey, BC
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | ENewton57(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Tip-up vs Slider |
Jim,
On the slider there is a fiberglass fairing over the rollbar that extends about
3/4" back from the rear edge of the roll bar. This is designed to provide a
seal for the sliding canopy when it shuts. This fiberglass can be cracked by
putting any weight on it. I believe the roll bar for the slider to very stout
and would quite probably survive a rollover incident such as a forced landing
into a soft field where the nose digs in and the plane flips over on its top.
It is tubular steel and bolts directly to the main longeron and in addition
has a 3/4 X 3/4 angle 1/8" thick that runs from the center support bar to the
firewall. I fell very confident in its ability to protect me in a situation like
described above.
Eric Newton - Long Beach, MS
RV-6A - N57ME (reserved) (Engine Baffles)
www.ericsrv6a.com
In a message dated Fri, 29 Jun 2001 7:57:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "James D.
Ivey" writes:
> Regarding the slider's rollover bar: Is it really a rollover
> bar? Does it
> have the structural integrity to protect you much against the
> weight of an
> airplane?
At last year's Golden West, the Van's people kindly reminded me repeatedly
to not grab the windscreen frame as I got into and out of the RV9A there.
That suggests to me that the windscreen/canopy frame is pretty fragile and
would not support the weight of the plane.
Anybody else know different? For proper appreciation of context, I weigh
about 250 (but still much lighter than an RV with engine, fuel, avionics,
prop, etc.).
Regards,
Jim Ivey
jim(at)iveylaw.com
Oakland, CA
RVator Wannabe
>>
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Boyd C. Braem" <bcbraem(at)home.com> |
Subject: | Re: Tip-up vs Slider |
It's not because you "hurt" the roll bar but because of the tendency to
bend the aluminum/fiberglass overlap that covers the canopy from the
windscreen, causing a binding problem when trying to close the canopy.
The roll bar is adequate to prevent collapse in "moderate g-force"
accidents. I do
not know what its load limit is, but I feel better having it there than
NOT having it there.
"James D. Ivey" wrote:
>
>
> > Regarding the slider's rollover bar: Is it really a rollover
> > bar? Does it
> > have the structural integrity to protect you much against the
> > weight of an
> > airplane?
>
> At last year's Golden West, the Van's people kindly reminded me repeatedly
> to not grab the windscreen frame as I got into and out of the RV9A there.
> That suggests to me that the windscreen/canopy frame is pretty fragile and
> would not support the weight of the plane.
>
> Anybody else know different? For proper appreciation of context, I weigh
> about 250 (but still much lighter than an RV with engine, fuel, avionics,
> prop, etc.).
>
> Regards,
>
> Jim Ivey
> jim(at)iveylaw.com
> Oakland, CA
> RVator Wannabe
>
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Jim Oke" <wjoke(at)home.com> |
Subject: | Re: Tip-up vs Slider |
One factor I have not seen mentioned yet is the relative difficulty in
sealing the forward edge of the tip-up canopy against water ingress both
on-the-ground and in-flight. Any leakage here will usually drip on the
wiring or $$$ avionics boxes on the forward side of the instrument panel.
This is generally not a good thing.
A local friend has been flying his -6 for 10 years now with a tip-up and
still has problems. He says he wishes he had gone with a slider for this
reason - water seepage problems around the forward canopy edge. (I think the
first slider kits were coming out when he was building). I think there must
be workarounds such as poly shrouds which drape over the instruments and
wiring, etc.
Guess if you fly in the desert or only in good weather and/or have a good
hanger this is not a big problem.
Personally and FWIW, I was tinkering with my slider canopy frame this very
afternoon.
Jim Oke
Winnipeg, MB
RV-3 C-FIZM
RV-6A C-????
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary & Sandi" <flying(at)3rivers.net>
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 8:54 AM
Subject: RV6-List: Tip-up vs Slider
>
> I am doing the "Tip-up vs Slider" canopy debate. I'd like to know how
> many builders have chosen each type, and why. Do the tip-ups offer
> enough ventilation while taxiing? Are they hard to seal? Strong enough
> when open in windy conditions? What do you guys think?
>
> I am building a -9A, but I assume there is very little functional
> difference between the 9 and the 6 in the canopy. Thought I'd ask you
> guys who have been flying yours for a while.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gary Crowder
> Belt, Montana
> #90263 on the wings
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: | Re: Tip-up vs Slider |
From: | Tedd McHenry <tedd(at)vansairforce.org> |
>
> One factor I have not seen mentioned yet is the relative difficulty in
> sealing the forward edge of the tip-up canopy against water ingress both
> on-the-ground and in-flight.
Wouldn't it be possible to put a drainage tray under the front edge of the
tip-up canopy? After all, you car has a great big hole right above the
heater inlet that rain pours through all the time. But your car
manufacturer thoughtfully put a little tray in there that redirects the
water to the sides and drains it on to the ground.
Tedd McHenry
Surrey, BC
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | Don Richcreek <silverwings(at)cybertrails.com> |
Subject: | Re: Tip-up vs Slider |
I have an RV6 with a tilt up and have been flying it for 800 hrs. I love the
visabilty and accessibilty to the panel. I have no trouble with water leakage
even flying in the rain.
Also have very little wind noise. I sometimes taxi with the canopy up. On hot
days I leave it open waiting for departure. I live in Arizona and fly most
every day. Also find that it is the easiest canopy to build.In the wintertime
when its cold it does not leak cold air on the back of my neck like some of the
sliders I've been in.
Jeffrey wrote:
>
> Gary, I have flown both the tip-up and slider versions of thr Rv-6. I also
> own a 6a w/ a tip-up. The biggest difference I can see is visibility. On the
> slider the roll bar is fwd of you and slightly above your forehead. There is
> also the center post, which in my opinion also deters from visibilty. On the
> tip-up the roll bar is behind you . The visibility is truely noticiably
> better. Now some may argue that in windy conditions the canopy is less
> stable. This is partly true. But just as you wouldn't let your flight
> controls "slop" around why ,why you let your canopy. The fix is very easy,
> you just close the canopy on to the taxi latch. I have also installed a sun
> shield which helps keep the temps down inside while the canopy is down if it
> is windy. As far as taxing, I have the NACA scoops installed and big
> "eyeball sockets" that bring in plenty of fresh air from the prop wash.There
> is also an added benefit from the tip-up which I personally don't put too
> much wait on nor would soley base my decision. That is accessibilty to
> behind the panel. Of the years of had mine, maybe just once I had to really
> get behind the panel. I recommend that if you could sit in both and close
> the canopy, and get the "feel" you'll make a choice. In my opinion, its all
> about visiblity..Jeff
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gary & Sandi <flying(at)3rivers.net>
> To:
> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 9:54 AM
> Subject: RV6-List: Tip-up vs Slider
>
> >
> > I am doing the "Tip-up vs Slider" canopy debate. I'd like to know how
> > many builders have chosen each type, and why. Do the tip-ups offer
> > enough ventilation while taxiing? Are they hard to seal? Strong enough
> > when open in windy conditions? What do you guys think?
> >
> > I am building a -9A, but I assume there is very little functional
> > difference between the 9 and the 6 in the canopy. Thought I'd ask you
> > guys who have been flying yours for a while.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Gary Crowder
> > Belt, Montana
> > #90263 on the wings
> >
> >
>
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | doyal plute <dplute(at)onemain.com> |
Subject: | Speedometer ext. cable? |
I am using the 12" speedometer extension on my RV6A. What is the most
practical way to mount this and the sender? If I mount it on the engine
side of the firewall it will have to have a pretty sharp bend (not
good)! I think maybe-run cable through a rubber grommet to cockpit
side of firewall and mount it somewhere there. Anyone out there have
any ideas on this subject?
Also-are most of you installing the inst. panel to be removable, or just
riveting it in permanent?
Thanks for any help:
Sincerely
Doyal R./ Plute resv.N4DP
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Tom & Cathy Ervin" <tcervin(at)valkyrie.net> |
Subject: | Re: Speedometer ext. cable? |
Doyal: I mounted my Tach Sender on the inside of the firewall (Less Heat
and Straight cable run). Take some Clear Mylar and make a template of the
back of the sender (Note small anti-rotation post).
Put template on firewall allowing a straight cable run and drill to
attach sender. On your second question my panel will be removable.
Tom in Ohio
----- Original Message -----
From: doyal plute <dplute(at)onemain.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 10:43 AM
Subject: RV6-List: Speedometer ext. cable?
>
> I am using the 12" speedometer extension on my RV6A. What is the most
> practical way to mount this and the sender? If I mount it on the engine
> side of the firewall it will have to have a pretty sharp bend (not
> good)! I think maybe-run cable through a rubber grommet to cockpit
> side of firewall and mount it somewhere there. Anyone out there have
> any ideas on this subject?
>
> Also-are most of you installing the inst. panel to be removable, or just
> riveting it in permanent?
>
> Thanks for any help:
> Sincerely
> Doyal R./ Plute resv.N4DP
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | doyal plute <dplute(at)onemain.com> |
I am fabricating the primer system on my 0-360 engine and I am trying to
find AN
xxxx-01 copper tubing to connect to the AN4022-1 discharge nipples (
this tubing is soldered into the AN800-2 union cone)
Does anyone know of a source for this? (need about 6 ft.)
Sincerely:
Doyal
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Bezinque, David" <David_Bezinque(at)maxtor.com> |
Subject: | RV6 gear leg stiffener alignment |
I am ready to epoxy the wood gearleg stiffeners to the aft side of the gear
legs. I can't see a good way to insure that they are positioned properly
with respect to the flight path. Do you just eyeball it and hope for the
best?
Dave Bezinque
RV-6 QB
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | PerrittMD(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Re: RV6 gear leg stiffener alignment |
According to the guys and gals at Technical Support at Van's the
wooden supports are not necessary when using the fiberglass landing gear
fairings and I have not used them although I have not flown as yet. Will add
them if necessary after flying. I was not able to do the thing outlined in
the manual so I just eyeballed the fairings and they seem to be quite
straight. Hope this helps you somewhat.
Regards, "Doc" Perritt RV-6
Quickbuild
Wilmington, NC perrittmd(at)aol.com
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Tim Lewis" <timrv6a(at)earthlink.net> |
Subject: | Re: RV6 gear leg stiffener alignment |
> According to the guys and gals at Technical Support at Van's
> the
> wooden supports are not necessary when using the fiberglass landing
> gear fairings and I have not used them although I have not flown as
> yet. Will add them if necessary after flying. I was not able to do
> the thing outlined in the manual so I just eyeballed the fairings and
> they seem to be quite straight.
That's odd. As I recall, when I called Van's back in 1998 for advice on
this, I was told that they thought the stiffeners WERE needed to
reduce shimmy (even though I was using fiberglass fairings). I
installed them, per the directions (weight off the gear, strings used to
center the wood stiffeners).
Tim
******
Tim Lewis -- Fairfax, VA
RV-6A N47TD - First Flight 18 Dec 99
http://www.geocities.com/timrv6a
******
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | avdub(at)mindspring.com |
Subject: | Re: RV6 gear leg stiffener alignment |
Am not certain, but believe the no wood stiffeners necessary applies only to
the nose gear (RV6A). I have added the stiffeners to my main gear legs based
on instructions in the assembly manual.
Dick S
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | avdub(at)mindspring.com |
Subject: | Re: RV6 gear leg stiffener alignment |
Am not certain, but believe the no wood stiffeners necessary applies only to
the nose gear (RV6A). I have added the stiffeners to my main gear legs based
on instructions in the assembly manual.
The alignment instructions are quite specific and are a pain to accomplish,
but it works. Correct alignment by eyeballing is near impossible.
Dick S
-----Original Message-----
From: Bezinque, David <David_Bezinque(at)maxtor.com>
Date: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 2:10 PM
Subject: RV6-List: RV6 gear leg stiffener alignment
>
>I am ready to epoxy the wood gearleg stiffeners to the aft side of the gear
>legs. I can't see a good way to insure that they are positioned properly
>with respect to the flight path. Do you just eyeball it and hope for the
>best?
>
>Dave Bezinque
>RV-6 QB
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
rv6-list(at)matronics.com, rv7-list(at)matronics.com, rv8-list(at)matronics.com,
rv9-list(at)matronics.com, rvcanada-list(at)matronics.com,
rveurope-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: | Van's Homecoming 2001 - A Photo Journal! |
Hi RV Listers!
Well, just back from Van's Homecoming BBQ and Fly-in up at the Aurora
Airport and in a word, wow. Below is a URL link to a web page I did on
the photos I took over the two days. There are multi-resolutions and
preview thumbnails for easy viewing.
http://www.matronics.com/rv-list/VansHomeComing2001/
Have a look and feel free to download any you'd like to keep or make
your screen backdrops.
If you haven't gone to a Homecoming before, or even if you have, I
highly recommend the trip. Very inspirational.
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
RV-4 Finish Kit - #1763 - N442RV
Matronics EMail List Admin.
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Subject: Fw: FW:Proud to be an American
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 19:18:06 -0700
----- Original Message -----
From: Verla.Kelly(at)centurytel.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:59 AM
Subject: FW:Proud to be an American
TRIBUTE TO THE UNITED STATES
This, from a Canadian newspaper, is worth sharing.
America: The Good Neighbor.
Wide spread but only partial news coverage was given
recently to a remarkable editorial broadcast from
Toronto by Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian television
Commentator. What follows is the full text of his
trenchant remarks as printed in the Congressional Record:
"This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the
Americans as the most generous and possibly the
least appreciated people on all the earth. Germany,
Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy
were lifted out of the debris of war by the
Americans who poured in billions of dollars and
forgave other billions in debts.
None of these countries is today paying even the
interest on its remaining debts to the United
States. When France was in danger of collapsing in
1956, it was the Americans who propped it up, and
their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the
streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it.
When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the
United States that hurries in to help. This spring,
59 American communities were flattened by tornadoes.
Nobody helped. The Marshall Plan and the Truman
Policy pumped billions of dollars into discouraged
countries. Now newspapers in those countries are
writing about the decadent, warmongering Americans.
I'd like to see just one of those countries that is
gloating over the erosion of the United States
dollar build its own airplane. Does any other
country in the world have a plane to equal the
Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the
Douglas DC10?
If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all the
International lines except Russia fly American
planes? Why does no other land on earth even
consider putting a man or woman on the moon? You
talk about Japanese technocracy, and you get radios.
You talk about German technocracy, and you get
automobiles. You talk about American technocracy,
and you find men on the moon - not once, but several
times - and safely home again.
You talk about scandals, and the Americans put
theirs right in the store window for everybody to
look at. Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued
and hounded. They are here on our streets, and most
of them, unless they are breaking Canadian laws, are
getting American dollars from ma and pa at home to spend here.
When the railways of France, Germany and India were
breaking down through age, it was the Americans who
rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and the
New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an
old caboose. Both are still broke.
I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced
to the help of other people in trouble. Can you name
me even one time when someone else raced to the
Americans in trouble? I don't think there was
outside help even during the San Francisco earthquake.
Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one
Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them get
kicked around. They will come out of this thing
with their flag high. And when they do, they are
entitled to thumb their nose at the lands that are
gloating over their present troubles. I hope Canada
is not one of those."
Stand proud, America! Wear it proudly!!
This is one of the best editorials that I have ever
read regarding the United States. It is nice that
one man realizes it. I only wish that the rest of
the world would realize it. We are always blamed for
everything, and never even get a thank you for the
things we do.
I hope that each of you send this to as many people as you can. Emphasize
that they
should send it to as many of their friends, until this letter is sent to
everyone on the web.
------------------( Forwarded letter 1 follows )--------------------
Date: Wednesday, 12 September 2001 9:37am PT
Sharon.Gilbert, Verla.Kelly
From: Roxanne.Malfait
Subject: [Fwd: [Fwd: Proud to be an]]
>
> TRIBUTE TO THE UNITED STATES
> This, from a Canadian newspaper, is worth sharing.
> America: The Good Neighbor.
>
> Widespread but only partial news coverage was given
> recently to a remarkable editorial broadcast from
> Toronto by Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian television
> Commentator. What follows is the full text of his
> trenchant remarks as printed in the Congressional
> Record:
>
> "This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the
> Americans as the most generous and possibly the
> least appreciated people on all the earth. Germany,
> Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy
> were lifted out of the debris of war by the
> Americans who poured in billions of dollars and
> forgave other billions in debts.
>
> None of these countries is today paying even the
> interest on its remaining debts to the United
> States. When France was in danger of collapsing in
> 1956, it was the Americans who propped it up, and
> their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the
> streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it.
>
> When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the
> United States that hurries in to help. This spring,
> 59 American communities were flattened by tornadoes.
> Nobody helped. The Marshall Plan and the Truman
> Policy pumped billions of dollars into discouraged
> countries. Now newspapers in those countries are
> writing about the decadent, warmongering Americans.
>
> I'd like to see just one of those countries that is
> gloating over the erosion of the United States
> dollar build its own airplane. Does any other
> country in the world have a plane to equal the
> Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the
> Douglas DC10?
>
> If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all the
> International lines except Russia fly American
> Planes? Why does no other land on earth even
> consider putting a man or woman on the moon? You
> talk about Japanese technocracy, and you get radios.
> You talk about German technocracy, and you get
> automobiles. You talk about American technocracy,
> and you find men on the moon - not once, but several
> times - and safely home again.
>
> You talk about scandals, and the Americans put
> theirs right in the store window for everybody to
> look at. Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued
> and hounded. They are here on our streets, and most
> of them, unless they are breaking Canadian laws, are
> getting American dollars from ma and pa at home to
> spend here.
>
> When the railways of France, Germany and India were
> breaking down through age, it was the Americans who
> rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and the
> New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an
> old caboose. Both are still broke.
>
> I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced
> to the help of other people in trouble. Can you name
> me even one time when someone else raced to the
> Americans in trouble? I don't think there was
> outside help even during the San Francisco
> earthquake.
>
>
> Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one
> Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them get
> kicked around. They will come out of this thing
> with their flag high. And when they do, they are
> entitled to thumb their nose at the lands that are
> gloating over their present troubles. I hope Canada
> is not one of those."
>
> Stand proud, America! Wear it proudly!!
>
> This is one of the best editorials that I have ever
> read regarding the United States. It is nice that
> one man realizes it. I only wish that the rest of
> the world would realize it. We are always blamed for
> everything, and never even get a thank you for the
> things we do.
>
> I would hope that each of you would send this to as
> many people as you can and emphasize that they
> should send it to as many of their friends until
> this letter is sent to every person on the web. I am
> just a single American that has read this, TRIBUTE
> TO
://explorer.msn.com
----- Original Message ----- From: Verla.Kelly(at)centurytel.com=20Sent: Wednesday,
September 12, 2001 9:59 AM To: ssmkc(at)hotmail.com; kathyhart5(at)hotmail.com;
bookielee(at)worldnet.att.net Subject: FW:Proud to be an American TRIBUTE TO THE
UNITED STATESThis, from a Canadian newspaper, is worth sharing. America: The
Good Neighbor.Wide spread but only partial news coverage was given
>recently to a remarkable editorial broadcast fromToronto by Gordon Sinclair, a
Canadian televisionCommentator. What follows is the full text of histrenchant
remarks as printed in the Congressional Record:"This Canadian thinks it is time
to speak up for theAmericans as the most generous and possibly theleast appreciated
people on all the earth. Germany,Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain
and Italywere lifted out of the debris of war by theAmericans who poured in
billions of dollars andforgave other billions in debts.None of these countries
is today paying even theinterest on its remaining debts to the UnitedStates.
When France was in danger of collapsing in1956, it was the Americans who propped
it up, andtheir reward was to be insulted and swindled on thestreets of Paris.
I was there. I saw it.When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is theUnited
States that hurries in to help. This spring,59 American communities were flattened
by tornadoes.Nobody helped.=20The Marshall Plan and the TrumanPolicy pumped
billions of dollars into discouragedcountries. Now newspapers in those countries
arewriting about the decadent, warmongering Americans.I'd like to see
just one of those countries that isgloating over the erosion of the United States
R>dollar build its own airplane. Does any othercountry in the world have a plane
to equal theBoeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or theDouglas DC10?If so,
why don't they fly them? Why do all theInternational lines except Russia fly
Americanplanes? Why does no other land=20on earth evenconsider putting a man
or woman on the moon? Youtalk about Japanese technocracy, and you get radios.You
talk about German technocracy, and you getautomobiles. You talk about American
technocracy,and you find men on the moon - not once, but severaltimes - and
safely home again.You talk about scandals, and the Americans puttheirs right
in the store window for everybody tolook at. Even their draft-dodgers are not
pursuedand hounded. They are here on our streets, and most
>of them, unless they are breaking Canadian laws, aregetting American dollars from
ma and pa at home to spend here.When the railways of France, Germany and India
werebreaking down through age, it was the Americans whorebuilt them. When
the Pennsylvania Railroad and theNew York Central went broke, nobody loaned them
anold caboose. Both are still broke.I can name you 5000 times when the Americans
racedto the help of other people in trouble. Can you nameme even one time
when someone else raced to theAmericans in trouble? I don't think there wasoutside
help even during the San Francisco earthquake.Our neighbors have faced
it alone, and I'm oneCanadian who is damned tired of hearing them get
kicked around. They will come out of this thingwith their flag high.=20And when
they do, they areentitled to thumb their nose at the lands that aregloating over
their present troubles. I hope Canadais not one of those."Stand proud, America!
Wear it proudly!!This is one of the best editorials that I have everread
regarding the United States.=20It is nice thatone man realizes it. I only wish
that the rest ofthe=20world would realize it. We are always blamed foreverything,
and never even get a thank you for thethings we do.I hope that each of you
send this to as many people as you can. Emphasizethat theyshould send it to
as many of their friends, until this letter is sent toeveryone on the web.------------------(
Forwarded letter 1 follows )--------------------Date: Wednesday,
12 September 2001 9:37am PTTo: Andy.Macha, Josef.Liberman, Karen.Boman, Lew.Dulaney,
Paul.Potts, Sharon.Gilbert, Verla.KellyFrom: Roxanne.MalfaitSubject:
[Fwd: [Fwd: Proud to be an]] TRIBUTE TO THE UNITED STATES
> This, from a Canadian newspaper, is worth sharing. America: The Good Neighbor.
Widespread but only partial news coverage was given recently to a remarkable
editorial broadcast from Toronto by Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian television Commentator.
What follows is the full text of his trenchant remarks as printed in
the Congressional Record: "This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the
Americans as the most generous and possibly the least appreciated people on
all the earth. Germany, Japan=20and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy were
lifted out of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions of
dollars and
R> forgave other billions in debts. None of these countries is today paying even
the interest on its remaining debts to the=20United States. When France was
in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans who propped it up, and their
reward was to=20be insulted and swindled on the streets of Paris. I was there.
I saw it. When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the=20United States
that hurries in to help. This spring, 59 American communities were flattened
by tornadoes. Nobody helped. The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped billions
of dollars into discouraged
countries. Now newspapers in those countries are writing about the decadent, warmongering
Americans. I'd like to see just one of those countries that is gloating
over the erosion of the United States dollar build its own airplane. Does
any other country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet, the
Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10? If so, why don't they fly them? Why
do all the International lines except Russia=20fly American Planes? Why does
no other land on earth even consider putting a man or woman on the moon? You talk
about Japanese technocracy, and you get radios. You talk about German technocracy,
and you get automobiles. You talk about American technocracy, and you
find men on the moon - not once, but several times - and safely home again. You
talk about scandals, and the Americans=20put theirs right in the store window
for everybody to look at. Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued and hounded.
They are here on our streets, and most of them, unless they are breaking
Canadian laws, are getting American dollars from ma and pa at home to spend here.
When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down through
age, it was the Americans who=20rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and
the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an old caboose. Both are
still broke. I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced to the help
of other people in trouble. Can you name me even one time when someone else raced
to the Americans in trouble? I don't think there was outside help even during
the San Francisco earthquake. Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one
Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them get kicked around. They will come
out of this thing with their flag high. And when they do, they are entitled
to thumb their nose at the lands that=20are gloating over their present troubles.
I hope Canada is not one of those." Stand proud, America! Wear it proudly!!
> This is one of the best editorials that I have ever read regarding the United
States. It is nice that one man realizes it. I only wish that the rest of the
world would realize it. We are always blamed for everything, and never even get
a thank you for the
> things we do. I would hope that each of you would send this to as many people as you can and emphasize that they should send it to as many of their friends until this letter is sent=20to every person on the web. I am just a single American that has read this, TRIBUTE TO THE UNITED STATESGet more from the Web. FREE MSN=20Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
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Subject: | Printing Labels on Wire... |
Hello Listers,
I've been pondering the impending electrical wiring of the 'ol RV-4 and
it occurred to me that at some point in my 10-year building process someone
showed me a nifty wire labeler that would allow you to put most any
gauge of wire in one side and pull it completely through. The labeler
would repeatedly print a string of text along the wire from one end to the
other. I have no idea now where I saw this labeler or what it was
called. Does anyone have any insight on this device?
Thanks!
Matt Dralle
RV-4 / #1763 / N442RV
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Average minds discuss events,
Small minds discuss people...
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From: | "J. Forster" <jfor(at)onemain.com> |
rv4-list(at)matronics.com, rv6-list(at)matronics.com, tailwind-list(at)matronics.com,
pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: | Re: Avionics-List: Printing Labels on Wire... |
They are thermal printers. I don't remember who makes them but it might be Allen
Avionics. Try eBay.
-John
Matt Dralle wrote:
> --> Avionics-List message posted by: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
>
> Hello Listers,
>
> I've been pondering the impending electrical wiring of the 'ol RV-4 and
> it occurred to me that at some point in my 10-year building process someone
> showed me a nifty wire labeler that would allow you to put most any
> gauge of wire in one side and pull it completely through. The labeler
> would repeatedly print a string of text along the wire from one end to the
> other. I have no idea now where I saw this labeler or what it was
> called. Does anyone have any insight on this device?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Matt Dralle
________________________________________________________________________________
, ,
,
Subject: | Re: AeroElectric-List: Printing Labels on Wire... |
Listers:
An inexpensive method is illustrated in our "How to" pages:
http://www.terminaltown.com/Pages/Page94.html. If you don't have a high
temp heat gun an open flame works well too. I like to set a candle on the
bench so I can use both hands to maneuver the wire. You might want to
practice on some scrap first, especially if you are using wire insulated
with material other than Tefzel.
Regards,
Gaylen Lerohl
www.terminaltown.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
; ;
; ;
; ;
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 19:06
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Printing Labels on Wire...
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt
Dralle)
>
>
> Hello Listers,
>
> I've been pondering the impending electrical wiring of the 'ol RV-4 and
> it occurred to me that at some point in my 10-year building process
someone
> showed me a nifty wire labeler that would allow you to put most any
> gauge of wire in one side and pull it completely through. The labeler
> would repeatedly print a string of text along the wire from one end to the
> other. I have no idea now where I saw this labeler or what it was
> called. Does anyone have any insight on this device?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Matt Dralle
> RV-4 / #1763 / N442RV
>
>
> --
>
>
> Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
> 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
> http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft
>
> Great minds discuss ideas,
> Average minds discuss events,
> Small minds discuss people...
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
From: | "Heinrich Gerhardt" <hgerhardt(at)earthlink.net> |
Subject: | IO-360 into RV-6 |
Who out there in cyberland have installed a 200 HP IO-360 into their RV-6?
Van says not to do it, I know, but what's it take to make it fit? I can get
one with low hours and a good price. I'm fitting the cowl now, so it's a
good time to do it if I do. I'm no stranger to fiberglass (in fact, after
modifying this thing to make it fit, I don't see how Van's could sell such
crappy fiberglass parts). It looks like there will be a bit of
interference in the fwd valve cover area, but I can't see if the throttle
body will interfere with anything. (This engine is still installed in a
Cristen Eagle).
Thanks,
Heinrich Gerhardt
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From: | "ray sheffield" <1052a(at)prodigy.net> |
Subject: | Re: RV6-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 09/15/01 |
'RV6-List Digest Server' wrote:=0A=0A- *
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From: | "Mike Nellis" <mnellis(at)peoplepc.com> |
Subject: | Aileron Gap Seal Installation |
Can anyone out there tell me if they used the AN3-3 rivets to install
the aileron gap seal to the top wing skin on a -6? If so, How did you
install those rivets? The plans call out for 3-3 rivets but I can't for
the live of me see how to install those rivets without removing the top
skin. Since my top skin is already installed and riveted on, that
option is out of the question.
Mike Nellis - http://bmnellis.com
Plainfield, IL
RV6 N699BM (res) Building Flaps
Stinson 108-2 N9666K
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From: | "Paul Besing" <azpilot(at)extremezone.com> |
Subject: | Re: Aileron Gap Seal Installation |
Yes, Mike it can be done. You need a footed bucking bar. Kind of looks
like an "s" shaped bar. Use the pointed foot while pulling the gap seal
away from the rear spar and you can reach it with that bar. Or, you could
cheat and use pop rivets like I have seen alot of airplanes with.
Paul Besing
RV-6A N197AB Arizona
http://www.lacodeworks.com/besing
Flying
Kitlog Pro Builder's Log Software
http://www.kitlog.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Nellis" <mnellis(at)peoplepc.com>
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 8:13 AM
Subject: RV6-List: Aileron Gap Seal Installation
Can anyone out there tell me if they used the AN3-3 rivets to install
the aileron gap seal to the top wing skin on a -6? If so, How did you
install those rivets? The plans call out for 3-3 rivets but I can't for
the live of me see how to install those rivets without removing the top
skin. Since my top skin is already installed and riveted on, that
option is out of the question.
Mike Nellis - http://bmnellis.com
Plainfield, IL
RV6 N699BM (res) Building Flaps
Stinson 108-2 N9666K
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From: | owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com |
Subject: | !!new RV messageboard!! |
To the best of my knowledge the RV community has not untill now had a
"real" messageboard.
So I started one!
you can access it here
http://www.flugfelagid.com/ffmessageb/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi
or go through our web www.flugfelagid.com (on the menu click
messageboard and it opens in a separate window)
I hope in time it will be frequented and thus become highly useful and
entertaining for everyone.
To post you will need to register.
Thor Hardarson
Iceland
Building a RV-9 empennage
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From: | Normanjd(at)aol.com |
Subject: | Re: RV6-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 09/21/01 |
From Norm Donaldson RV6 working on canopy frame,
I too had installed my top skins before I installed the Aileron gap seals.
What I did was clamp and tape the seal into position and carefully layout and
drill the holes as shown on the plans. Consider the fact that if the rivets
are too close to the radius you will not be able to buck them. What you
will have to do is cleco the seal in position putting a cleco in every hole.
Gently pull down the other side of the seal. Remove one cleco and install a
rivet. This is definitely a two man job! You will need an offset bucking
bar with a narrow anvil to get up in the tight area. I always use 25 to 28
PSI on my 3x rivet gun to minimize possibility of damaging sheet metal. This
is awkward riveting at its best. Remember only remove one cleco at a time at
the bending load on the seal will tend to separate the seal from the top skin.
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From: | doyal plute <dplute(at)onemain.com> |
With the abundance of late model wrecked cars in the salvage yards with
perfectly good seat belts, has anyone used them in R.V. aircraft? If
so, how good was the outcome?
Also, attaching the wingtips on a RV 6 A, either pop rivet, screws with
nutplates or glue on with proseal. What seems to work the best?
Sincerely:
D Plute
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From: | MeangreenRV4(at)aol.com |
In a message dated 9/28/01 3:38:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
dplute(at)onemain.com writes:
>
>
> With the abundance of late model wrecked cars in the salvage yards with
> perfectly good seat belts, has anyone used them in R.V. aircraft? If
> so, how good was the outcome?
> Also, attaching the wingtips on a RV 6 A, either pop rivet, screws with
> nutplates or glue on with proseal. What seems to work the best?
> Sincerely:
> D Plute
>
>
>
Some advice.....stay away from the salvage yards "don't go there" stay away.
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From: | "Tedd McHenry" <tedd(at)vansairforce.org> |
>
>Some advice.....stay away from the salvage yards "don't go there" stay away.
>
Why?
Tedd McHenry
Surrey, BC
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From: | "Thomas Mosher" <tmosher(at)gbronline.com> |
1. Belts usually exposed to weather
2. condition of belts unknown
3. possibility of being exposed to excessive stress - did you know that it
is recommended that you replace your car's seatbelts after an accident? They
are usually stretched out from restraining you in the crash?
4. age of belts unknown
5. you going to trust something you got on the cheap to restrain you in an
accident?
Tom
N787RV (reserved)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tedd McHenry" <tedd(at)vansairforce.org>
Subject: Re: RV6-List: seat belts
>
> >
> >Some advice.....stay away from the salvage yards "don't go there" stay
away.
> >
>
> Why?
>
> Tedd McHenry
> Surrey, BC
>
>
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To be legal you need a seat belt and shoulder harness. You will not find
equipment from a wrecking yard which will attach to the longerons as required
for strength.
T.T.
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From: | "Paul Besing" <azpilot(at)extremezone.com> |
This is an airplane. Probably $40,000 at least. Buy some aircraft
seatbelts. $150 from Van's shouldn't set you back much if you are spending
this much on an airplane. Or if you really want slick seatbelts, spend $300
(still a bargain, IMHO) on some hooker harnesses.
Paul Besing
RV-6A N197AB Arizona
http://www.lacodeworks.com/besing
Flying
Kitlog Pro Builder's Log Software
http://www.kitlog.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tedd McHenry" <tedd(at)vansairforce.org>
Subject: Re: RV6-List: seat belts
>
>Some advice.....stay away from the salvage yards "don't go there" stay
away.
>
Why?
Tedd McHenry
Surrey, BC
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From: | "Tedd McHenry" <tedd(at)vansairforce.org> |
>
>1. Belts usually exposed to weather
>2. condition of belts unknown
>3. possibility of being exposed to excessive stress - did you know that it
>is recommended that you replace your car's seatbelts after an accident? They
>are usually stretched out from restraining you in the crash?
>4. age of belts unknown
>5. you going to trust something you got on the cheap to restrain you in an
>accident?
Right, but any intelligent person knows those things. So I take it you're
saying there's nothing wrong with buying from a wrecker, assuming you can
satisfactorily answer those questions? That takes us back to my original
question, "Why a blanket statement against buying from a wrecker?"
Tedd
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From: | "Tedd McHenry" <tedd(at)vansairforce.org> |
>
>This is an airplane. Probably $40,000 at least. Buy some aircraft
>seatbelts. $150 from Van's shouldn't set you back much if you are spending
>this much on an airplane. Or if you really want slick seatbelts, spend $300
>(still a bargain, IMHO) on some hooker harnesses.
Perhaps I should clarify. I'm not necessarily promoting the idea of buying
seat belts from an auto wrecker. Personally, I don't want automotive-style
inertia-reel seat belts (although nothing in the discussion so far has said
we're not talking about buying a set of brand-new four- or five-point
harnesses that were in the trunk of a wrecked car, still in their origianl
package). The blanket statement that was made was, "stay away from the
salvage yards `don't go there' stay away." That's quite an emphatic and
all-encompassing statement, which presumably covers aircraft salvage yards
as well. In fact, looking at the statement again it appears that it might
have meant aircraft salvage yards specifically. So, again, why?
Tedd
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From: | MeangreenRV4(at)aol.com |
In a message dated 10/1/01 9:16:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
tedd(at)vansairforce.org writes:
>
> >
> >Some advice.....stay away from the salvage yards "don't go there" stay
> away.
> >
>
> Why?
>
> Tedd McHenry
> Surrey, BC
>
>
>
Wrecked car parts do not belong on aircraft.
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I believe there is an issue with automotive belts being difficult to release
when a person is hanging from them. I say believe because, I know there was
an issue with older cars. As a ex Paramedic, We almost always had to cut the
belts to extract people when inverted. The newer auto belts may have been
changed. I don't know.
Just like everyone else who posts to this list, I have an opinion. By the
best quality safety equipment you can afford, even if it means doing without
the latest dazzling piece of electronics.
Garry "Casper" RV6, Scroth quick release 5 point belts and shoulder harness.
MeangreenRV4(at)aol.com wrote:
>
> In a message dated 10/1/01 9:16:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> tedd(at)vansairforce.org writes:
>
> >
> > >
> > >Some advice.....stay away from the salvage yards "don't go there" stay
> > away.
> > >
> >
> > Why?
> >
> > Tedd McHenry
> > Surrey, BC
> >
> >
> >
>
> Wrecked car parts do not belong on aircraft.
>
>
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From: | tom j powers <tompowersrv6(at)juno.com> |
writes:
>
>
>
> >
> >This is an airplane. Probably $40,000 at least. Buy some aircraft
> >seatbelts. $150 from Van's shouldn't set you back much if you are
> spending
> >this much on an airplane. Or if you really want slick seatbelts,
> spend $300
> >(still a bargain, IMHO) on some hooker harnesses.
>
> Perhaps I should clarify. I'm not necessarily promoting the idea of
> buying
> seat belts from an auto wrecker. Personally, I don't want
> automotive-style
> inertia-reel seat belts (although nothing in the discussion so far
> has said
> we're not talking about buying a set of brand-new four- or
> five-point
> harnesses that were in the trunk of a wrecked car, still in their
> origianl
> package). The blanket statement that was made was, "stay away from
> the
> salvage yards `don't go there' stay away." That's quite an emphatic
> and
> all-encompassing statement, which presumably covers aircraft salvage
> yards
> as well. In fact, looking at the statement again it appears that it
> might
> have meant aircraft salvage yards specifically. So, again, why?
>
> Tedd
>
>
> _ Tedd another thing to think about is you are the manufacture of your
aircraft when you sell your airplane
you could be held liable if someone has an accident and is hurt or
killed and they find that the seat belts
were not aircraft quality. Ask Piper about the famous Piper Cub law
suit. (read EAAS selling your homebuilt)
Tom Powers N5UA
RV-6 Aircraft belts installed
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From: | "Tedd McHenry" <tedd(at)vansairforce.org> |
>Wrecked car parts do not belong on aircraft.
That's just a platitude. Why not wrecked car parts on an airplane? I can
think of quite a few parts from a wrecked car I'd be willing to use on an
airplane:
seats, seat material, carpeting and other interior trim
sound insulation
engine instruments
engine long block (suitably overhauled)
alternator
starter
ventilation system components
power locks
glove box light switch and socket
interior light switch and socket
cigar lighter
stereo or speakers
rear-view mirror
AC compressor and condensor
Thanks to everyone who answered regarding seat belts. For the record, I
plan to use brand-new belts suitable for aerobatics in my -6. Seat belts
aren't the issue for me in this thread, salvaged parts are.
Tedd
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From: | MeangreenRV4(at)aol.com |
In a message dated 10/2/01 11:11:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
tedd(at)vansairforce.org writes:
>
> >Wrecked car parts do not belong on aircraft.
>
> That's just a platitude. Why not wrecked car parts on an airplane? I can
> think of quite a few parts from a wrecked car I'd be willing to use on an
> airplane:
>
> seats, seat material, carpeting and other interior trim
> sound insulation
> engine instruments
> engine long block (suitably overhauled)
> alternator
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