RV6-Archive.digest.vol-aa

September 11, 1999 - October 03, 2001



      
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From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Sep 11, 1999
Subject: Welcome to the new RV6-List Email List at Matronics!
Welcome to the new RV6-List Email List at Matronics! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Admin. -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Sep 11, 1999
Subject: New, RV Model-Specific Email Lists At Matronics!
rv8-list(at)matronics.com Dear RV Listers, A couple of weeks ago I received a request from a fellow (I accidently deleted his email message - please write me again) who had been running an RV-3 email list and was wondering if I would be interested in taking it over for him. It seemed like a good idea and I thought that I would go ahead and create not only the RV3-specific list, but also one for the RV4, RV6, and RV8 models as well. Well, you can imagine my surprise when Joe Colontonio announced his new RV-8 email list this week! Anyway, I'm definitely not trying to 'one-up' Joe, but I wanted to added the model-specific lists to the current RV-List here at Matronics. The new Lists (RV3-List, RV4-List, RV6-List, and RV8-List) each have their own digest mode, as well as the traditional Archive Search Engine access and Archive Browsing capability via the web interface. Please note that the current RV-List general List still exists and will continue to co-exist with these new model-specific Lists. I would encourage everyone to only use the specific Lists for discussions that severely only relate to the model in question. You may subscribe to any of the new model-specific Lists at the following URL: http://www.matronics.com/subscribe Thank you, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Admin. -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Sep 12, 1999
Subject: Two MORE Email Lists at Matronics...
Dear Listers, At the request of a couple of members, I have added two more Email Lists to the Servers here at Matronics. These include: avionics-list(at)matronics.com Aircraft Avionics related topics such as Radios, GPSs, VSIs, DMEs, etc. engines-list(at)matronics.com Aircraft Engine related topics such as Lycomings, Auto conversions, etc. As usual, the new lists have full archive searching and browsing capabilities. You may subscribe to the new lists by using the Web-Based subscription form at the following URL: http://www.matronics.com/subscribe Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Admin. -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Sep 13, 1999
rv8-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: New Specific RV Lists Auto Forwarded to RV-List...
Hi RV Listers, I've received quite a few comments about the diluting affect having specific lists will have on the main RV-List. Also, that archive searching would be somewhat more difficult. I've tried something this morning that might solve the problem. What I've done is automatically forward any messages sent to the RV3-List, RV4-List, RV6-List, and RV8-List to the main RV-List. This will assure that all messages will be appended to the RV-List archive, easing the searching task as well. What do people think of this solution? Matt Dralle Email List Admin. PS - I think that I've set it up so that, when a message is cross-posted to more than one RV-Specific List as I did with this message, only one copy will be forwarded to the RV-List for general viewing. Hopefully! -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
From: AAMRELECTR(at)aol.com
Date: Sep 15, 1999
Subject: Sound Damping Tape for Aircraft
This is from AAMR/AirCore. There is a new page up on our site. It's can be found on our home page http://members.aol.com/aamrelectr/index.html Click Sound Damping Tape. This the same stuff Boeing uses in it's fuselages to reduce unwanted noise and vibration. We've got a really great price on it. Regards, John @AAMR/AirCore ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 09, 1999
From: "Bradley Kidder, Jr." <sparksnmagic(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: Walsh
Trying to reach Denis Walsh. Denis, if you read this... please email me back THANKS! Bradley W. Kidder sparksnmagic(at)usa.net http://home.earthlink.net/~sparksnmagic ICQ 11770815 EAA 574350 RV-6A (empennage) N188FW (reserved) ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 18, 1999
From: Bobby Hester <bhester(at)apex.net>
Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 10/17/99
RV6-List Digest Server wrote: > * > RV6-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Sun 10/17/99: 0 Just checking to make sure I am setup properly. Jim Sears and Bentley Floyd are you guy out there? We met at the Bowling Green Airshow! -- Suring the Web from Hopkinsville, KY Visit my web site at: http://www.geocities.com/capecanaveral/7373/ And see my Rans S12xl experimental aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 18, 1999
From: "Lemen, Ted Ce" <ted.ce.lemen(at)lmco.com>
Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 10/17/99
Test was successful. > -----Original Message----- > From: Bobby Hester [SMTP:bhester(at)apex.net] > Sent: Monday, October 18, 1999 1:32 PM > To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: RV6-List: Re: RV6-List Digest: 10/17/99 > > > RV6-List Digest Server wrote: > > > * > > RV6-List Digest Archive > > --- > > Total Messages Posted Sun 10/17/99: 0 > > Just checking to make sure I am setup properly. > Jim Sears and Bentley Floyd are you guy out there? We met at the Bowling > Green > Airshow! > > -- > Suring the Web from Hopkinsville, KY > Visit my web site at: http://www.geocities.com/capecanaveral/7373/ > And see my Rans S12xl experimental aircraft > > > > > > - > > - > > - > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Nov 12, 1999
Subject: JPI vs. Matronics Settlement Reached...
Dear Listers, After seven months of negotiations, JP Instruments, Inc. and Matronics have reached a mutually agreeable settlement. As most of you are aware, in February of this year, JP Instruments, Inc. alleged that Matronics' use of the trademark "FuelScan" with its aircraft fuel management system infringed upon JP Instruments, Inc's trademark "Scanner" for engine temperature indicators. JP Instruments, Inc. requested that Matronics discontinue the use of the "FuelScan" mark. After considerable negotiations, we have come to an agreement whereby JP Instruments, Inc. will purchase the FuelScan trademark and, if necessary, assist in paying the cost of Matronics' adoption of a new trademark. Matronics will continue to sell and market its aircraft fuel management system under the FuelScan trademark until a phase-out period of up to one year is completed. This will allow Matronics time to sell out its current stock of units marked with the FuelScan trademark and to develop a new trademark. While negotiations have been a bit trying at times, I would like to say that I am satisfied with the outcome, and feel that JP Instruments, Inc. has treated Matronics and me fairly in this matter. Furthermore, I would encourage you to consider JP Instruments for your aircraft avionics in the future as they manufacture an excellent product line. Finally, I would like to thank everyone from around the world for their support and consideration in this matter. I was quite moved by the support - both financial and in the form of letters and comments - that builders and pilots provided me and my company during this time. I never felt alone during this period, and so very much appreciated the encouragement from thousands of my friends! Thank you so very much! Best regards, Matt Dralle President, Matronics -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 17, 1999
From: Garry Legare <versadek(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: Fuel Cap Engraving
Earlier today I read the post on fuel cap engraving by Steve Davis. the price seemed higher than it should be. I remembered that Gary Van Vortel has engraved caps on his "6a", sooo I looked up who Gary had used in the Yeller Pages (THANKS GARY):-- Engraphix Corp, 1335 2nd Ave North "Suite K", Fargo ND 58102. (701)237-6560 and called them. I talked with the owner Breck, he remembered doing Garys caps and quoted me $10.00 each plus $5.00 return shipping for both. This price encludes "Enameling" down in the engraved area in your choice of color. Turn around is usually a week or less. I guess my caps ( I have three) are going take a little trip to North Dakota. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "james small" <james(at)jsmall.flyer.co.uk>
Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 11/18/99
Date: Nov 20, 1999
Has anyone fitted a Navaid turn coordinator / wingleveller + Porcine GPS smart coupler to an RV6?, can you recommend this setup?, are there any plans or details regarding the fitting of the servo motor? I am just finishing an RV (just wants painting) and may pick one up at Sun&Fun if this is considered a worthwhile addition. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 20, 1999
From: Rich <houndsfour(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 11/18/99
HI james Yes I have a Navaid in my "6". I can recommend the system and if you install it as shown in the drawings, you should not have a problem except I to had my plane ready for paint when I installed the Navaid. It's not hard to do but work slowly and read the instructions. I think you will like the unit. Rich T. james small wrote: > > > Has anyone fitted a Navaid turn coordinator / wingleveller + Porcine GPS > smart coupler to an RV6?, can you recommend this setup?, are there any plans > or details regarding the fitting of the servo motor? > I am just finishing an RV (just wants painting) and may pick one up at > Sun&Fun if this is considered a worthwhile addition. > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 21, 1999
From: "Douglas E. Bostard" <dougacft(at)jps.net>
Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 11/20/99
REGARDING NAVAID AUTOPILOT: Based on several recommendations, I bought one a year ago. When you buy one, they will supply a couple of very good drawings which show how to mount the servo. I also bought the coupler. I haven't yet figured out how to hook that up. Also, you have to build your own harness..which wasn't a big deal. I am finished too and awaiting inspection and signoff. I have heard of a couple of people who had to send their unit back for rework, but that was a year or two ago and I think there have been improvements by the manufacturer since then. I hope. I asked the manufacturer how to link the tracking to a Magellan EC10 and they told me to ask Magellan. I don't get that part nor have I determined how as yet. I am just in heat to fly this thing, and have all winter to figure out the fine details. Factory support is very good, I hear. Good luck and happy landings. If and when you do mount the servo in accordance with the instructions, be careful...getting a pop rivet tool into the area it needs to go is very tight...after mounting the platform, I noticed I made some internal to external dents in the belly skin unwittingly. This while forcing the rivet tool into tight quarters. If it could be mounted before riveting on the belly skin, that would be ideal. Or modify to suit. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 21, 1999
From: "Douglas E. Bostard" <dougacft(at)jps.net>
Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 11/17/99
I'm awaiting inspection/signoff on an RV6A and don't want to placard the fuel caps yet until I paint next spring. Is the engraving something like, "100 lowlead only"? Are you aware of the new "O" rings which won't fit your fuel caps anymore necessitating replacement of the caps, too? Check with Van's. Apparently, the ones which came with the older kits require o rings which are no longer available. Throw the baby out with the bathwater!!! ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Nov 23, 1999
Subject: [Please Read] List Fund Raiser Continues; LOC #1 December 1st!
Greetings Listers! Don't forget the 1999 List Fund Raiser is still in progress and there is still plenty of time to make a Contribution and assure yourself a place on on the first List Of Contributors (LOC)! I will post the first LOC on December 1st and it will detail everyone that has generously made a Contribution so far this year!! It costs a great deal to maintain the Email and Web server systems and high-speed Internet connection that provide the Email List services found here. I won't even mention the many, many hours I spend each week running the Lists, doing backups, handling subscription requests, and creating new email and web features and services such as the Archive Search Engine, and Archive Browser... Whoops; I think I just did! :-) This year's Fund Raiser started out pretty slow and I was starting to think that no one appreciated me anymore... ;-) But, in the last week or so things have really started to pick up! So if you haven't made a Contribution yet this year, why not join your email List friends and make a contribution today to support the continued operation of these Lists! There are two easy methods for making your Contribution: * Make a SSL Secure Web Contribution using your Visa or MasterCard, surf over to: http://www.matronics.com/contribution.html * Make a Contribution by check, send US Mail to: Matronics c/o Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore, CA 94551 I would like to sincerely thank everyone who has already made a Contribution so far this year! I greatly appreciate your generosity and support and want you to know that these Lists have been made possible directly by *YOU*! Thank you! Matt Dralle Your Email List Administrator -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Lkyswede(at)aol.com
Date: Nov 24, 1999
Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 11/23/99
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From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Dec 02, 1999
Subject: 1999 List of Contributors #1 and a Special Thank You Message!!
Dear Listers, I would like to personally thank each and everyone that has contributed this year to 1999 List Fund Raiser! As you can see from the list of names below, there were many, many generous people from the Lists this time around and I want everyone to know just how much your support has meant to me. The list of members below includes those that have contributed during this year's List Fund Raiser as well as those that have contributed throughout the year and also those that made a donation to my Legal Defense Fund earlier in the year that was sponsored my our own Bob Nuckolls of Aero Electric. I want everyone to know just how much it means to me to receive the type of financial support for these Lists that I have this year. As the Lists have grown so much over the last few years, so have the equipment costs as well as the monthly costs such as the Internet connectivity. Your generosity during the Fund Raiser and throughout the year, truly makes the continued operation, and more importantly, the continued upgrade and improvement of these aviation-related services directly possible. That is the bottom line. Please accept my most sincere appreciation of the amazing and, at times, overwhelming generosity of so many of you wonderful people! Thank you!! For those of you that didn't quite get your contribution in on time for this first List of Contributors - be it by check or by credit card - I will be posting a followup List of Contributors #2 for 1999 in a few weeks to make sure that I properly acknowledge each and everyone of the generous List members. One last time, the addresses to make a contribution are: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or Matt Dralle c/o Matronics PO Box 347 Livermore, CA 94551 Finally, thank you all so much for your support this year both in terms of the financial contribution but also in the form of the letters and moral support during what can only be categorized as a very stressful and unsettling time. And I think you know what I'm referring to... Your support and encouragement meant more to me than you'll ever know. I felt as if I had 2500 friends all behind me, and that's a *powerful* force! Well done one and all! Thank you! Best regards for the upcoming year. Your Email List Administrator, Matt Dralle RV-4 Builder #1763 =================== 1999 List of Contributors #1 ==================== Abell, John Acker, Rob Adams, Bob Adamson, Larry Ahamer, Karl Albachten, Rudy III Alcazar, Jesus Allen, Brent Allison, Steven Ammeter, John Amundsen, Blair Anderson, Edward Armstrong, Robert Arnold, James Aronson, David Ashford, James Ashton, Kent Atkinson, Harold Baggett, Robert Baker, Gary Baker, Ray Baldwin, James Barlow, Melvin Barnes, Thomas Barnes, Tom Barnhart, Dave Barrenechea, Godo Battles, Brenton BB Diversified Services, LTD Bechtel, Amos Bell, Bruce Belted Air Power LTD. Benhan, Dallas Bennett, Peter Besing, Paul Bieber, Mike Bilodeau, Paul Bird, Carroll Blanton, Stan Bleier, Roger Blomgren, Jack Blum, Ronald Boadright, Kyle Boardman, Don III Boatright, Kyle Boatright, Robert Bodie, Pete Bonesteel, Wayne Booze, Gregory Borne, Charles Bourgeois, Rion Bourne, Larry Bovan Pe, Vaso Bowen, Larry Bowen, Miles Bower, Bob Bowhay, Eustace Bowman, Brian R Boyd, Rodney Branscomb, Warren Bray, Garrett Brian Lloyd Brick, John Bridgham, David Brogley, Mike Brooks, Chris Brooks, John Brott, Marvin Brown, Kent Brown, Scott Buckwalter, David - Avionics Systems Burlingame, Ralph Burnham, Dave Calhoun, Ronald Calvert, Jerry Cantrell, Ken Capen, Ralph Cardinal, Gregory Carey, Christopher Carr, David Carter, Jerry Carter, Ron Casey, Jeremy Chapple, Glen Chesnut, Bruce Chesnut, William Christensen, Peter Christie, William Churchill, Frank Ciolino, John Clabots, Gerald Clark, Howard Clark, James Clary, Buck Clay, Dennis Cloughley, Bill Cole, Ed Colontonio, Moe Colucci, Anthoney Conaway, James Cook, David Sr. Cooley, John Copeland, Forrest Corder, Michael Corriveau, Grant Cotter, Timothy Cox, Carson Croby, Harry Crosley, Richard Cullen, Chuck Czinkota, Garnet Dall, Richard Daudt, Larry Davidson, Jeff Davis, Christopher Davis, Jared Davis, Steve - The Panel Pilot Davis, William Day, Robert Deffner, David Del Peso, Jose Derrik, Chuck Desmond, Richard Devine, Steven Devlin, John Dewees, Ron Dial, J.R. Dominey, Clifford Dorsey, Bob Downing, Jeff Dubroc, Tommy Dudley, Richard Duffy, Russell Duncan, John Dunlap, E.T. Dziewiontkoski, Bob Eagleston, Ron Eagleston, Ronald Eastburn, James Elder, William Elhai, Irv Emrath, Marty Ensing, Dale Ervin, Thomas Erwin, Chip - Czech Aircraft Works Evans, Monte Exstrom, Daniel Faile, David Farrar, Jeffrey Farris, Paul Fetzer, George Fiedler, Mike Filucci, Michael - Red Dragon Aviaion Finch, K Flaherty, Edward Floyd, Joseph Ford, David Forrest, Gerald Forsting, Robert Fortner, Earl Four Star Products Frank, Dan Franz, Carl Frazier, Vince Frederick, Mark French, Edwin Friedman, Frank Froehlich, Carl Fromm, John Fry, John Funk, Edwin Jr. Funnell, Augustus George, William Gilbert, Mark Giusti, Roberto Glaser, Arthur Glass, Roy Glover, Ken Gold, Andy - Builder's Book Store Goldberg, Mark Good, Chris Gooding, Lawrence Goolsby, Jim Gott, Shelby Goudreault, Jacques Graham, James Jr. Grant, Jordan Griffin, Bill Griffin, Randy Groom, Larry Guillosso, Alain Hale, Michael Hales, Sherman Hall, Bob Hall, Thomas Hamer, Steven Hamilton, Thom Hamilton, William Hand, Chris Hansen, Ronald Hargis, Merle Harmon, John Harper, Malcom Harrill, Roy Harris, John Hart, Daniel Harvey, Doug Hassall, J.C. Hastedt, Margaret Hatch, Fletcher III Hatcher, Clive Hatfield, Cecil Hays, Wes Henderson, George Henderson, Randall Heritch, Ian Herndon, Richard Herren, Bill Hevern, Jerry Hiatt, Mark Hiers, Craig Hinch, Christopher Hine, Joe Hinkley, Curtis Hinrichsen, James Hodge, Jack Hodgson, Bob Hodson, Frank Hoffman, Carl Holcombe, Richard Horton, Kevin Hoshowski, Ken Hrycauk, Dave Hughes, Robert Hulen, Fred Hundley, Richard Hurd, James Hurlbut, Steve Hutcheson, Ken Ihlenburg, Fred Ingram, Jim Irace, Bill Irwin, Eric Isler, Jerry Ivers, James James, Larry Janes, Bob Janicki, Steven Japundza, Bob Jeens, Ken Johannsson, Johann Johnson, Jackie Johnson, Stephen Jones, Bryan Jones, Rob Jones, Russ Jonker, Bill Jordan, Thomas Jory, Rick Kampthorne, Hal Kayner, Dennis Keithley, Rick King, Da Ve Kirby, Dennis Kirby, Graham Kirtland, Charles Kitz, John Knezacek, Dan Knievel, Gerald Knoll, Bruce Kosta, Michael Kowalski, Ed Krueger, Dan Krueger, Scott Kuss, Charlie Laczko, Frank Sr. Lamb, Richard Lane, Kevin Lassen, Finn Laurence, Peter Laverty, Mike Lawson, John Leaf, Dave Lee, John Lee, Ric LeGare, Garry Leggette, Len Leonard, William Lerohl, Gaylen Lervold, Randy Lewis, Terry Lewis, Tim Ligon, Howard Lind, Laird Linebaugh, Jeffrey Loeber, Wayne Ludeman, Bruce Lutes, Rick Mac Donald, Lawrence MacKay, Alex Malczynski, Francis Mandell, Tom Marino, Anthony Marion, Chris Markert, Michael Marshall, Robert Martin, Tom Maxson, Phil Mazatuad, Mme Hyun Sook McElhoe, Bruce McFarlane, Lloyd McGee, Michael McHarry, Joe McHenry, Tedd McKibben, Gerald McNamara, Don Melder, Frank Melia, Tom Metzger, Stephen Meyers, John Miller, Jim & Dondi - Aircraft Technical Support Mitchell, Duane Moen, Craig Mojzisik, Allan Molzen, Jason Mondy, Malia Moore, Thomas Moore, Warren Morelli, Bill Morelli, William Morris, Daniel III Morrison, Mark Morrow, Dan Moulin, Roger Munn, Mike Murphy, Ray Jr. Neal, Danny Nellis, Michael Nelson, James Nelson, Jim Newell, Alan Nguyen, Thomas Nice, James Nicely, Vincent Norris, Rob Nowakowski, Donald Noyer, Robert Nuckolls, Robert Olendorf, Scott Olson, Larry Olson, Tom Orear, Jeffrey Owens, Laird Palinkas, Gary Pardue, Larry Paulson, Craig Peck, Bill & Kathy Peer, Michael - Jem Aviation Peryk, Dennis Peternel, Stanley Petersen, Eric Petersen, Paul Peterson, Alex Pflanzer, Randy Phillips, Mark Pickrell, Jim Pike, Richard Pinneo, George Pittenger, Dick Plathey, Claude Point, Jeff Polstra, Philip Porter, Richard Porter, Robert Potter, Mark Pretzsch, Robert Ragsdale, Bill Randolph, George Ransom, Ben Rathbun, Richard Reeck, Jay Reed, Derek Reed, Frank Reisdorfer, Mark Reynolds, Richard Richardson, Ray - Powersport Aviation Inc. Riedlinger, Paul Riley, Stuart Roach, Brian Rodgers, Brian Rosales, Paul Rowbotham, Charles Rowles, Les Rozendaal, Doug Rutherford, Ted Sa, Carlos Sager, Jim Sailer, Martin SanClemente, Andrew Sapp, Doug Sargent, Tom Sax, Samuel Schemmel, Grant Schippers, John Schmitt, Clayton Schneeflock, Robert Schrimmer, Mark Schwarz, Guillermo Selby, Jim - JKL Aviation Sales Seward, Douglas Shackleford, Howard Shafer, Jim Shank, Bill Sheets, Douglas Shenk, Doug Shepherd, Dallas Shettel, Maurice Shipley, Walter Sigmon, Harvey Silverstein, Chuck Sipp, Dick Slaughter, Mike Small, Thomas Smith, Clayton Smith, Edmund Smith, Philip Smith, Shelby Smithey, Lloyd Snyder, David Solecki, John Sparks, Timothy Stafford, David Staub, Skip Steer, Bill Stobbe, Bruce Stoffers, Larry Stone, James Strandjord, Eric Swaney, Mark Tauch, Eric Tauchen, Bryan Taylor, Tod Team Rocket Thayer, George Therrien, Michel Thistelthwaite, Geoffrey Thoman, Daniel Thomas, Lee Thomas, Tim Thompson, Michael Todd, John Tompkins, Jeff Tower, John True, George Tucker, Harold Tuton, Beauford Tyrrel, Charles Upshur, Bill Uribe, Guillermo Uribe, Gullermo Utterback, Thomas Van Der Sanden, Gert Vandervort, Ronald VanGrunsven, Stanley Varnes, William Volum, Peter Von Ruden, Dennis VonLindern, Paul Vosberg, Roy Waligroski, Gregg Walker, Tommy Walrath, Howard Ward, Ed Warren, John Washburn, Oliver Watson, Dennis Watson, Terrence Watson, William Webb, Randol Weber, Ed Weber, Edward Weller, Michael Wendel, Jim Wentzell, David Werner, Russ Werner, Russell Westridge, David Whelan, Thomas Whiler, Douglas Whitehead, Arthur Wiesel, Dan Wigney, John Williams, Jimmy Williams, Keith Williams, Lawrence Willig, Louis Wills, Mike Wilson, Billy Wittman, James Wood, Denton Wood, John Wood, Mark Worstell, Glen Worthington, Victor Wotring, Dale Wymer, Gerald Young, Charles Young, Rollin Youngblood, Barry Zeidman, Richard Zigaitis, Kestutis Zinkham, Ralph Zwart, Frank -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 02, 1999
From: Garry Legare <versadek(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: 1999 List of Contributors #1 and a Special Thank You Message!!
Matt, the latest list update is listed as 11/28/99. I've tried reloading etc. Garry LeGare. Matt Dralle wrote: > > Dear Listers, > > I would like to personally thank each and everyone that has contributed > this year to 1999 List Fund Raiser! As you can see from the list of > names below, there were many, many generous people from the Lists this > time around and I want everyone to know just how much your support has > meant to me. The list of members below includes those that have > contributed during this year's List Fund Raiser as well as those that > have contributed throughout the year and also those that made a donation > to my Legal Defense Fund earlier in the year that was sponsored my our > own Bob Nuckolls of Aero Electric. > > I want everyone to know just how much it means to me to receive the type > of financial support for these Lists that I have this year. As the Lists > have grown so much over the last few years, so have the equipment costs > as well as the monthly costs such as the Internet connectivity. Your > generosity during the Fund Raiser and throughout the year, truly makes > the continued operation, and more importantly, the continued upgrade and > improvement of these aviation-related services directly possible. That > is the bottom line. Please accept my most sincere appreciation of the > amazing and, at times, overwhelming generosity of so many of you > wonderful people! Thank you!! > > For those of you that didn't quite get your contribution in on time for > this first List of Contributors - be it by check or by credit card - I > will be posting a followup List of Contributors #2 for 1999 in a few > weeks to make sure that I properly acknowledge each and everyone of the > generous List members. One last time, the addresses to make a contribution > are: > > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > or > Matt Dralle > c/o Matronics > PO Box 347 > Livermore, CA 94551 > > Finally, thank you all so much for your support this year both in terms > of the financial contribution but also in the form of the letters and > moral support during what can only be categorized as a very stressful and > unsettling time. And I think you know what I'm referring to... Your > support and encouragement meant more to me than you'll ever know. I felt > as if I had 2500 friends all behind me, and that's a *powerful* force! > Well done one and all! Thank you! > > Best regards for the upcoming year. > > Your Email List Administrator, > Matt Dralle > RV-4 Builder #1763 > > =================== 1999 List of Contributors #1 ==================== > > Abell, John > Acker, Rob > Adams, Bob > Adamson, Larry > Ahamer, Karl > Albachten, Rudy III > Alcazar, Jesus > Allen, Brent > Allison, Steven > Ammeter, John > Amundsen, Blair > Anderson, Edward > Armstrong, Robert > Arnold, James > Aronson, David > Ashford, James > Ashton, Kent > Atkinson, Harold > Baggett, Robert > Baker, Gary > Baker, Ray > Baldwin, James > Barlow, Melvin > Barnes, Thomas > Barnes, Tom > Barnhart, Dave > Barrenechea, Godo > Battles, Brenton > BB Diversified Services, LTD > Bechtel, Amos > Bell, Bruce > Belted Air Power LTD. > Benhan, Dallas > Bennett, Peter > Besing, Paul > Bieber, Mike > Bilodeau, Paul > Bird, Carroll > Blanton, Stan > Bleier, Roger > Blomgren, Jack > Blum, Ronald > Boadright, Kyle > Boardman, Don III > Boatright, Kyle > Boatright, Robert > Bodie, Pete > Bonesteel, Wayne > Booze, Gregory > Borne, Charles > Bourgeois, Rion > Bourne, Larry > Bovan Pe, Vaso > Bowen, Larry > Bowen, Miles > Bower, Bob > Bowhay, Eustace > Bowman, Brian R > Boyd, Rodney > Branscomb, Warren > Bray, Garrett > Brian Lloyd > Brick, John > Bridgham, David > Brogley, Mike > Brooks, Chris > Brooks, John > Brott, Marvin > Brown, Kent > Brown, Scott > Buckwalter, David - 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Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 > 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email > http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Dec 11, 1999
Subject: Cool RV-6 Gif Animation...
Hi Listers, I was experimenting with my digital camera today and came up with a cool GIF animation of an RV-6 Slider out at Livermore. Feel free to add it to your website if you want, although be warned it's a little big at about 325k bytes. The GIF is at: http://www.matronics.com/ftp/Scans/RV/rv6.gif The 640x480 source JPGs can be found at: http://www.matronics.com/rv-list/picture.htm These were originally taken at 1700x1500 and then cropped to 640x480 using Photoshop, explaining the slight grainyness. Have fun! Now get back in that shop! :-) Matt Dralle RV-4 Builder -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Jerry walker" <carrabellefl(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: Prop Governor Controls
Date: Dec 22, 1999
I'm building a RV-6 with a Lycoming IO-320 and rear mounted prop governor. The control lever on the end of the governor is behind the plane of the firewall by approximately 1/2 inches. Has anyone else dealt with this problem in connecting a control cable? Does anyone have suggestion on how to connect/mount a control cable? ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Tim Lewis" <timrv6a(at)earthlink.net>
Date: Dec 22, 1999
Subject: Re: Prop Governor Controls
See the docs/plans section of my web site for the bracket I used. It gets pretty cramped back in the firewall recess. My bracket lies horizontal, toward the pilot's side. Tim On 22 Dec 99, at 9:28, Jerry walker wrote: > > I'm building a RV-6 with a Lycoming IO-320 and rear mounted prop governor. > The control lever on the end of the governor is behind the plane of the > firewall by approximately 1/2 inches. Has anyone else dealt with this > problem in connecting a control cable? Does anyone have suggestion on how > to connect/mount a control cable? > > > > > > ****** Tim Lewis -- Springfield VA RV-6A N47TD - First Flight 18 Dec 99 TimRV6A(at)earthlink.net http://www.geocities.com/timrv6a ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 30, 1999
From: "Douglas E. Bostard" <dougacft(at)jps.net>
Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 12/22/99
I Just launched my RV6A on 12-17. I have the same engine/prop combination..I ordered and eventually used the bracket van sells for the governor. I did have to add some to the "entry end" hole but that was just to affix the cable housing. My cable exits the firewall on the upper pilot side through an eyball exit. They are pricey but worth it for enabling the sharp 90 degree curve to be divide between aft of FW and fwd of FW. then straight to the governor. Any questions, get back to me. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Jan 15, 2000
Subject: 1999 List of Contributors #2!
Dear Listers, Below is the final List of Contributors for 1999 as promised. Again, I would like to thank everyone that made a generous contribution in 1999 to support the continued operation of these email Lists. Your support directly makes the quality and quantity of this service possible. Thank you! Matt Dralle EMail List Administrator RV-4 Builder, #1763 - N442RV =================== 1999 List of Contributors #2 ==================== Adamson, Arden Allender, Patrick Anonymous from MN Asher, M.E. Baxter, Rob Bell, Doug Bendure, Ryan Bergh, David Berrie, Robert Blake, J.I. Boucher, Michel Bragg, Medford Briegleb, Ross Brietigam, Charles Broomell, Glenn Brusilow, Michael Chatham, Robert Clary, Buck Coats, Lonnie Cook, Craig - Golf Instruments Co. Cooper, James Cribb, William Jr. Crosby, Harry Dane, Bill Von Dziewiontkoski, Bob Ellenberger, Mike Embree, Roger Faatz, Mitch Fasching, John Gibbons, Robert Glauser, David Gold, Andy -Builder's Bookstore 10% Gregory, Steve Grenier, Raymond Guarino, Michael H., Harold - E.P.M.AV Corp Hale, Brian Hunt, Wallace Johnston, Leroy Jordon, Don Killion, Clay Klingmuller, Dr. L.M. Magaw, David Mains, Ralph Maltby, Michael Martin, Cliff - Martin Metal Fab Mazataud, Hyun Sook McBride, Duncan McDonald, James Mendenhall, Elbie - E.M Aviation Mitchell, Duane Morley, Harold Peck, Phil Pessel, Garnett Rodebush, James Ross, Jonathan Schmidt, John Scully, William Smith, Steven Spence, Stephen Triff, Wes Wagoner, Richard Weaver, Brian Wiegenstein, John Wiley, Robert Wilson, Donald -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 15, 2000
From: Dennis Berry <denniswayneberry(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: 1999 List of Contributors #2!
Matt, Please delete my name from your list. Thanks, Dennis Berry --- Matt Dralle wrote: > (Matt Dralle) > > > > Dear Listers, > > Below is the final List of Contributors for 1999 as > promised. Again, I > would like to thank everyone that made a generous > contribution in 1999 > to support the continued operation of these email > Lists. Your support > directly makes the quality and quantity of this > service possible. > > Thank you! > > Matt Dralle > EMail List Administrator > RV-4 Builder, #1763 - N442RV > > > =================== 1999 List of Contributors #2 > ==================== > > > Adamson, Arden > Allender, Patrick > Anonymous from MN > Asher, M.E. > Baxter, Rob > Bell, Doug > Bendure, Ryan > Bergh, David > Berrie, Robert > Blake, J.I. > Boucher, Michel > Bragg, Medford > Briegleb, Ross > Brietigam, Charles > Broomell, Glenn > Brusilow, Michael > Chatham, Robert > Clary, Buck > Coats, Lonnie > Cook, Craig - Golf Instruments Co. > Cooper, James > Cribb, William Jr. > Crosby, Harry > Dane, Bill Von > Dziewiontkoski, Bob > Ellenberger, Mike > Embree, Roger > Faatz, Mitch > Fasching, John > Gibbons, Robert > Glauser, David > Gold, Andy -Builder's Bookstore 10% > Gregory, Steve > Grenier, Raymond > Guarino, Michael > H., Harold - E.P.M.AV Corp > Hale, Brian > Hunt, Wallace > Johnston, Leroy > Jordon, Don > Killion, Clay > Klingmuller, Dr. L.M. > Magaw, David > Mains, Ralph > Maltby, Michael > Martin, Cliff - Martin Metal Fab > Mazataud, Hyun Sook > McBride, Duncan > McDonald, James > Mendenhall, Elbie - E.M Aviation > Mitchell, Duane > Morley, Harold > Peck, Phil > Pessel, Garnett > Rodebush, James > Ross, Jonathan > Schmidt, John > Scully, William > Smith, Steven > Spence, Stephen > Triff, Wes > Wagoner, Richard > Weaver, Brian > Wiegenstein, John > Wiley, Robert > Wilson, Donald > > > > -- > > Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | > Livermore | CA | 94551 > 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | > dralle(at)matronics.com Email > http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring > Products For Aircraft > > > > through > > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > Matronics! > > > > > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Jan 16, 2000
Subject: Confusion Over "List of Contributors"...
Hi Listers, I'm really sorry for the confusion over the most recent posting of the List of Contributors #2. List #2 contained only the contributor names *since* the List #1 was posted. So, if you weren't on List #2, you were likely on List #1. Below are URLs to each of the LOC #x postings. Again, sorry for the confusion. I should have made it more clear in the verbiage. Thanks to everyone, Matt Dralle Email List Admin. ============================= LOC #1 and #2 ================================ List of Contributors #1 - 1999 ------------------------------ http://www.matronics.com/searching/getmsg_script.cgi?INDEX=29144?KEYS=list_of_con?LISTNAME=Homebuilt?HITNUMBER=2?SERIAL=11144111847?SHOWBUTTONS=NO List of Contributors #2 - 1999 ------------------------------ http://www.matronics.com/searching/getmsg_script.cgi?INDEX=29144?KEYS=list_of_con?LISTNAME=Homebuilt?HITNUMBER=2?SERIAL=11144111847?SHOWBUTTONS=NO ============================================================================ -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 16, 2000
From: Matt Dralle 925-606-1001 <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Re: (Whoops) Confusion Over "List of Contributors"...
> >Okay, here are the *real* URLs. Sorry... > > >Matt Dralle >Email List Admin. > > >============================= LOC #1 and #2 ================================ > > > List of Contributors #1 - 1999 > ------------------------------ > > >http://www.matronics.com/searching/getmsg_script.cgi?INDEX=29144?KEYS=list_ >of_con?LISTNAME=Homebuilt?HITNUMBER=2?SERIAL=11144111847?SHOWBUTTONS=NO > > > List of Contributors #2 - 1999 > ------------------------------ > > >http://www.matronics.com/searching/getmsg_script.cgi?INDEX=53146?KEYS=list_ >of_con?LISTNAME=Homebuilt?HITNUMBER=1?SERIAL=11144111847?SHOWBUTTONS=YES > > >============================================================================ ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Jan 16, 2000
Subject: Re: (No, Really - Here are the URLs) Confusion Over "List of
Contributors"... Geeze, I can't seem to type today. Here are the *real*, *REAL* URLs. Sorry for so many posts... Ack Matt Dralle Email List Admin. ============================= LOC #1 and #2 ================================ List of Contributors #1 - 1999 ------------------------------ http://www.matronics.com/searching/getmsg_script.cgi?INDEX=29144?KEYS=list_of_con?LISTNAME=Homebuilt?HITNUMBER=2?SERIAL=11144111847?SHOWBUTTONS=NO List of Contributors #2 - 1999 ------------------------------ http://www.matronics.com/searching/getmsg_script.cgi?INDEX=53146?KEYS=list_of_con?LISTNAME=Homebuilt?HITNUMBER=1?SERIAL=11144111847?SHOWBUTTONS=NO ============================================================================ -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
From: PSHIREMAN(at)aol.com
Date: Feb 01, 2000
Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 01/31/00
I recently subscribed to the RV-6 digest list. I receive a message each day but no information. It always says total messages posted ,day,date:0. In the body of the message there is a notation "Digest Mode Message Key". What do I do to get information? Thanks PSHIREMAN ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "William Ginn" <idavant(at)zip.com.au>
Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 02/01/00
Date: Feb 02, 2000
Question: Has anyone used BRS 10-11 two part epoxy primer on their RV? If so would you please let me know what problems you had and what you think of it. Thanks, Bill ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 02, 2000
From: Bobby Hester <bhester(at)apex.net>
Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 02/01/00
RV6-List Digest Server wrote: > From: PSHIREMAN(at)aol.com > Subject: RV6-List: Re: RV6-List Digest: 01/31/00 > > > I recently subscribed to the RV-6 digest list. I receive a message each day > but no information. It always says total messages posted ,day,date:0. In the > body of the message there is a notation "Digest Mode Message Key". What do I > do to get information? > Thanks > PSHIREMAN I did the same thing when I first signed up. Then I signed up for the RV-List Digest and found that everyone uses that list, most of the time, rather than the RV6-List Digest. You will find everone in The RV-List Digest, sign up to it and you will get about 40-80 messages a day in it! -- Surfing the Web from Hopkinsville, KY Visit my web site at: http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/7373/ And see my Rans S12xl experimental aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Bill and Joy Mosley" <mosley(at)sedona.net>
Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 02/01/00
Date: Feb 02, 1994
Why are you using primer, Van doesn't, either does Cessna? ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 02, 2000
From: "Douglas E. Bostard" <dougacft(at)jps.net>
Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 02/01/00
Unofficial reply by other RV6 builder: I get that too. I saw yours so I believe that means there is no current question or tip pending for comment. I'm just guessing. If I can help you in any way, mine has 10 hours on it now. Good luck ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 04, 1998
From: cmcgough <rv6(at)ssc.net.au>
Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 02/01/00
That is not correct, they both do!! Chris RV6 Fuse Bill and Joy Mosley wrote: > > Why are you using primer, Van doesn't, either does Cessna? > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Del Schneider" <del(at)deltech.ca>
Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 02/01/00
Date: Feb 03, 2000
Subject: Primer. Are we talking about primer on the parts and pieces or on the exterior? As we all know all the parts are primed before assembly. If we are talking about the exterior this depends on the finish coat one entends to use. In most every case the paint manufacture will lay out the procedure necessary for a successful job. I would suggest you follow the manufactures recomendation. Del Schneider > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of cmcgough > Sent: February 3, 1998 11:55 PM > To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV6-List: Re: RV6-List Digest: 02/01/00 > > > That is not correct, they both do!! > > Chris RV6 Fuse > > Bill and Joy Mosley wrote: > > > > > > Why are you using primer, Van doesn't, either does Cessna? > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "William Ginn" <idavant(at)zip.com.au>
Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 02/02/00
Date: Feb 04, 2000
> > Why are you using primer, Van doesn't, either does Cessna? I live near the sea and everything corrodes here. Bill ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 04, 2000
From: "Lemen, Ted Ce" <ted.ce.lemen(at)lmco.com>
Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 02/01/00
I find it hard to believe that Van doesn't use a primer. I always heard that he likes Veriprime. > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill and Joy Mosley [SMTP:mosley(at)sedona.net] > Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2094 7:38 AM > To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV6-List: Re: RV6-List Digest: 02/01/00 > > > Why are you using primer, Van doesn't, either does Cessna? > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "William Ginn" <idavant(at)zip.com.au>
Subject: Corrosion Proofing
Date: Feb 08, 2000
Hello Ted, > > I find it hard to believe that Van doesn't use a primer. I always heard that > he likes Veriprime. Ken at Van's said to me that if you lived near the sea and had to leave the plane outside, consider corrosion proofing, but did not specify what type. I'm considering BMS 10-11 which is a Boeing product so it should be good. Bill ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Bill and Joy Mosley" <mosley(at)sedona.net>
Subject: Re: Corrosion Proofing
Date: Feb 08, 1994
Bill, Maybe we are confusing the priming of steel parts with priming under exterior finish . In the Rviator back in '91 there is a reference to self etching primers for steel parts before assembling, Marhyde #5111 work great, but is no longer available from Avery, I found SEM brand at my automotive paint center. There is a article in '92 about Bill Brown using Veriprime, personally, I prefer phosphatizing ( tri-sodium works well) and paint on bare metel unless you need a filler. Bill ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "KRUETZFELDT,KEITH (HP-SanJose,ex1)" <keith_kruetzfeldt(at)agilent.com>
Subject: slider vs tilt canopy
Date: Feb 11, 2000
I plan on ordering the fuselage kit for the RV-6 very soon but can decide on the slider or tilt up canopy. I figure the tilt up had better foward visibilty and the slider is better for taxiing (cooling). Would appreciate any insights builders/owners have as to the pro's and con's of each of the canopy styles so I can make an "informed" decision. On a second note, I have never flown a taildragger before and have about 120hrs mostly in Cessnas- is it a reasonable assumption that this can be learned and mastered pretty easily? Keith Kruetzfeldt RV-6 (tailkit, wingkit) San Jose, CA ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "james small" <james(at)jsmall.flyer.co.uk>
Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 02/10/00
Date: Feb 12, 2000
Please unsubscribe me from the RV6-List Digest and subscribe me to RV-List Digest Regards Jim ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 13, 2000
From: Sam Knight <knightair(at)lv.rmci.net>
Subject: Knight Upholstery New Lower Prices
RV-6 Builders: I have been in the upholstery business for 28 years and have been making upholstery products for kitplanes for 16 years. I have interior kits available for RV-4, RV-6, RV-6A, and RV-8. I also have cabin covers and other items. I am the supplier of upholstery products for several kitplane manufacturers. A list of other kitplane interior products available upon request. For more information, call Knight Aircraft Interiors, Inc., at (702) 207-6681 or e-mail me at knightair(at)lv.rmci.net. If you e- mail for information, please mention either "Knight" or "Upholstery" in your reference line so I can give your request my immediate attention. Photos available upon request. Sincerely, KNIGHT AIRCRAFT INTERIORS, INC. "Fly by Knight" Upholstery Products Sam Knight ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Del Schneider" <del(at)deltech.ca>
Subject: Knight Upholstery New Lower Prices
Date: Feb 14, 2000
Good Morning, (It is still morning here) I am building an RV-6A. I intend to do the interior in leather or possibly leather & cloth. I am somewhat decided on color being a light tan to go with an beige and red exterior. Things may change????. Would you kindly e-mail whatever you have available electronically or if you wish use the other mail system to; Del Schneider 7650 St. Patrick Avenue #108 Prince George, BC V2N 4E8 Canada > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Sam Knight > Sent: February 13, 2000 12:07 PM > To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: RV6-List: Knight Upholstery New Lower Prices > > > RV-6 Builders: > > I have been in the upholstery business for 28 years and have been making > upholstery products for kitplanes for 16 years. I have interior kits > available for RV-4, RV-6, RV-6A, and RV-8. I also have cabin covers and > other items. I am the supplier of upholstery products for > several kitplane > manufacturers. A list of other kitplane interior products available upon > request. > > For more information, call Knight Aircraft Interiors, Inc., at (702) > 207-6681 or e-mail me at knightair(at)lv.rmci.net. If you e- mail for > information, please mention either "Knight" or "Upholstery" in your > reference line so I can give your request my immediate attention. Photos > available upon request. > > Sincerely, > KNIGHT AIRCRAFT INTERIORS, INC. > "Fly by Knight" Upholstery Products > > Sam Knight > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "KRUETZFELDT,KEITH (HP-SanJose,ex1)" <keith_kruetzfeldt(at)agilent.com>
Subject: slider and tilt -more?s
Date: Feb 15, 2000
Thanks to everyone for the first responses to my questions on the canopy styles and my subtly phrased questions as to tail vs nosewheel. This of course has generated some more questions I would appreciate insight on: 1) I hear a lot of people are putting gas struts on the tilt canopy thereby defeating the jettison feature- wouldnt this make it illegal to fly aerobatics? 2) Can the slider be made so that it can be slide back say an inch or two in flight for ventilation (like on T-6's and other slider canopy planes). This would be a nice way to ventilate the cabin after a lot of aerobatics and one turned "green". Is there a limitation to opening the canopy in flight? 3) If the plane flips over on the ground, how does one exit the aircraft in the tilt and slider canopy versions? 4) Are there any aerobatic limitations to the -6A vs' the -6? 5) Is insurance for the -6 typically higher than the -6A? (I have about 120 hrs nosewheel time, would of course get my tailwheel endoresment for 6) 6) Have the issues with the failures in the nosegear of the 6A been resolved. I also heard of failures of the rudder control cables on the 6A- any clarifications? Thanks Keith Kruetzfeldt 6/6A tail- rudder San Jose, CA ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Feb 15, 2000
Subject: Internet Explorer and List Subscription Page Problem...
Listers, I have just identified a problem between any version of Microsoft's Internet Explorer and the email List Subscription Form found at http://www.matronics.com/subscribe Please note that this problem *ONLY* affects users of Internet Explorer! Netscape users are *not* affected by the issue. Users of Internet Explorer should use the Netscape browser for now until a work around can be developed. IMPORTANT: If you have tried to subscribe *or* unsubscribe from any of the following email lists using *Internet Explorer* since the announcement of the 7 new Email Lists this past weekend, your request was not properly received and you should resubmit the request using the Netscape Browser, or wait until a solution for the problem with Internet Explorer is completed. The Lists affected by the Internet Explorer issue are: RVCanada-List RVEurope-List Skymaster-List SmithMini-List Sonerai-List Tailwind-List Please note that the Netscape Browser *IS NOT* affected by this problem and all lists can be subscribed to and unsubscribed from without a problem. I will post a message to the Lists when I have come up with a solution to this problem. Sorry for the inconvenience, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Admin. -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Feb 15, 2000
"Internet Explorer and List Subscription Page Problem..." (Feb 15, 10:19am)
Subject: Re: Web Subscription Page Operation for Internet Explorer Restored...
Dear Listers, I have rewritten the web page and CGI code for processing List Subscription Requests to now be more compatible with command line limitations of Microsoft's Internet Explorer and some very old versions of Netscape. The page seems to be working fine now on whatever browser I try. Please feel free to resume your normal List Subscription habits. The URL is: http://www.matronics.com/subscribe Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Admin. >-------------- > > >Listers, > >I have just identified a problem between any version of Microsoft's >Internet Explorer and the email List Subscription Form found at >http://www.matronics.com/subscribe Please note that this problem >*ONLY* affects users of Internet Explorer! Netscape users are >*not* affected by the issue. Users of Internet Explorer should >use the Netscape browser for now until a work around can be >developed. > >IMPORTANT: > >If you have tried to subscribe *or* unsubscribe from any of the >following email lists using *Internet Explorer* since the announcement of >the 7 new Email Lists this past weekend, your request was not properly >received and you should resubmit the request using the Netscape >Browser, or wait until a solution for the problem with Internet Explorer >is completed. The Lists affected by the Internet Explorer issue are: > > RVCanada-List > RVEurope-List > Sailplane-List > Seaplane-List > Skymaster-List > SmithMini-List > Sonerai-List > Tailwind-List > Ultralight-List > Warbird-List > Yak-List > Zenith-List > > >Please note that the Netscape Browser *IS NOT* affected by this problem >and all lists can be subscribed to and unsubscribed from without a >problem. > >I will post a message to the Lists when I have come up with a solution >to this problem. > >Sorry for the inconvenience, > >Matt Dralle >Matronics Email List Admin. >-------------- -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Lkyswede(at)aol.com
Date: Feb 16, 2000
Subject: Re: Web Subscription Page Operation for Internet
Explorer Restored... ________________________________________________________________________________
From: santafe(at)gnv.fdt.net
Date: Feb 19, 2000
User-Agent: IMP/PHP3 Imap webMail Program 2.0.11
Subject: Upholstery RV6A
Quoting Sam Knight : Please send prices and pictures to: Jack Eckdahl 4028 SW 97 Dr. Gainesville, FL 32608 or email at seats and upholstery for RV6A building project. Thanks, Jack > > RV-6 Builders: > > I have been in the upholstery business for 28 years and have been making > upholstery products for kitplanes for 16 years. I have interior kits > available for RV-4, RV-6, RV-6A, and RV-8. I also have cabin covers and > other items. I am the supplier of upholstery products for several kitplane > manufacturers. A list of other kitplane interior products available upon > request. > > For more information, call Knight Aircraft Interiors, Inc., at (702) > 207-6681 or e-mail me at knightair(at)lv.rmci.net. If you e- mail for > information, please mention either "Knight" or "Upholstery" in your > reference line so I can give your request my immediate attention. Photos > available upon request. > > Sincerely, > KNIGHT AIRCRAFT INTERIORS, INC. > "Fly by Knight" Upholstery Products > > Sam Knight > > > _- ======================================================== ==== > _- ======================================================== ==== http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > _- ======================================================== ==== > _- ======================================================== ==== > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: flyhars(at)ibm.net
Subject: Mark12-D
Date: Mar 27, 2000
Listers: I am looking for a hook up diagram for a Narco Mark12-D and A Narco AT-50A Transponder. Any help appreciated. Harvey Sigmon - RV-6AQB Wiring Panel ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Mar 28, 2000
From: "Douglas E. Bostard" <dougacft(at)jps.net>
Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 03/27/00
Try Tom Pischel at Auburn avionics. He can help. See address above. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: ABAYMAN(at)aol.com
Date: Mar 28, 2000
Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: RV6-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 03/27/00
TOM i'm looking for a terra trt 250 d transponder, do you have one or know where i can get one, thanks scott tampa rv6a finishing abayman(at)aol.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Jerry walker" <carrabellefl(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: NOTICE: Matronics Web Server Upgrade Tuesday...
Date: Apr 05, 2000
Need Help I'm building a -6 with a 160 IO-320 Lycoming and Hartzell C/S Prop. The engine uses a Bendix throttle body for the injection system. What I need is information on a readily available bracket for attaching the throttle and mixture controls or plans for manufacturing a suitable bracket Jerry Walker ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Apr 06, 2000
From: "Douglas E. Bostard" <dougacft(at)jps.net>
Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 04/05/00
Van's makes a bracket which is not too expensive, which is good, since you may have to discard it or modify it the way I did to acheive the right "throw" on the throttle/mixt cables as well as accommodating the cable housing jam nuts. I have a 0320A2B. A lotyof people make one up out of small welded chromoly triangle shaped config. I'm not too sure that isn't the way to go. Likewise the prop governor bracket. Good luck! ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Apr 06, 2000
Subject: NOTICE: Matronics Web Server Back Online...
Dear Email Listers, The Matronics Web and FTP server is finally back online! What a nightmare... But at least its finally done and in all honesty the system is running much better. Everything should be working now including the Search Engine, Archive Browser, various List-related pages, Matronics Product Pages, Online Ordering, Real Video server and Contribution pages. Again, I'm sorry it took so long to get things back - way longer than I ever intended. Have fun! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Admin. -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Tedd McHenry" <tedd_mchenry(at)agilent.com>
Subject: Tip-up Canopy
Date: Apr 10, 2000
The other day I noticed the tip-up canopy arrangement used on the Lancair 320. The Lancair has a parallel-linkage arrangement, so that the canopy opens forward, but remains essentially level. I have a couple of questions about this arrangement. 1. How hard would it be to modify the RV-6 canopy to work this way? I'm thinking of a couple of possible problems: the attachment of the parallel links to the side sills of the cockpit (i.e. are the sills strong enough and rigid enough; how much reinforcement would be required); and would the way the canopy frame mates to the fuselage have to be modified? In principle, the parallel link arrangement could be designed such that the canopy approaches the "seat" following nearly the same path as it does with the standard tip-up arrangement. 2. Does the Lancair arrangement allow taxiing with the canopy open? It looks like it might. 3. How does the Lancair canopy latch? Does it require a latch at the front? Tedd McHenry Surrey, BC tedd(at)vansairforce.org http://www.vansairforce.org ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Apr 19, 2000
From: Klaus Heddergott <klaus(at)yosemite.net>
Subject: RV-3 Project
Charlie Johnson is selling his Rv-3 Project. More complete than a quick-build kit, if there was one for a RV-3. For construction status details and pictures and price contact Charlie Johnson at 209-966-6423. Or me by e-mail klaus(at)yosemite.net. This is really well built. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: flyhars(at)ibm.net
Subject: ACK Encoder
Date: Apr 27, 2000
Can someone help with the wiring output from an ACK-30 encoder to an Narco-AT50A Transponder. Thanks in Advance: Harvey Sigmon RV-6AQB Wiring DNA ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Apr 30, 2000
Subject: PLEASE READ: Network Problems To Matronics...
Dear Listers, My ISP is upgrading their network today 4/30 and tomorrow 5/1. I noticed that Nameservice (DNS) went down last night around 3am which causes all sorts of problems. If your message post was rejected between about 3am 4/30 and 1pm 4/30, please repost as it was rejected do to the DNS being down. I've redirected my systems to a different DNS server in the mean time and things seem to be working right now. In any case, be aware that there may be continuing issues over the next couple of days both posting email messages and accessing the web server. My ISP *promises* that things are going to be so much better after the upgrade! We'll see... ;-) Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Admin. -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft Great minds discuss ideas, Average minds discuss events, Small minds discuss people... ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 18, 2000
From: "Mark Phillips" <mphill(at)fgi.net>
Subject: Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 21:28:26 -0500
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From: "Mark Phillips" <mphill(at)fgi.net>
Subject: tools for sale
Date: May 18, 2000
I have the following tools for sale (mint condition) All are AVERY tools. PT81 Rivet Spacing tool 10741 Jig Fixture Brackets 1042 Edge Rolling Tool 620 Bucking Bar 615 Bucking Bar 1044 Double Edge Deburring Tool (NEW) 500 Fluting Pliers 200 Cleco Pliers 1300 Rivet Cutters 1050 Flute Burring Cutter 1046-1 Swivel Handle 1046-2 Extension Handle 420 Nesco 3/8 Air Drill 1043 Swivel Head Deburring Tool 575 Hand Seamer 1001 Hand Riveting and Dimpling Tool 150 Air Tool Regulator 9425 2 1/2 Hand Rivet Squeezer 1048 Back Riveting Rivet Set 4704 .401 Sha;nk Short 1/8 19360 Countersink Cage 1007 Rivet Guage Set 1008 Rivet Length guage 1022 3/32 Pop Rivet Dimplers 4706 Rivet Set 3/16 All tools are in excellent condition, All were purchased from Avery. Prices from the current AVERY catalog total 772.25. Will take 20% off for a total of 615.00. Reply email at mphill(at)fgi.net or at 217-566-2500. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: LBL2(at)aol.com
Date: May 29, 2000
Subject: Re: RV6-Gear Legs and mounts.
I am one of the few going from a 6A to a 6 kit. I therefore have what you need to convert your 6 to a 6A. Complete unused new condition Gear legs and Mounts. I am told that Vans will deduct 550.00 from the fuse kit if you do not need gear legs. I will sell what I have for 475.00 and save you enough to almost pay for the crating on your fuse kit. Lonnie Lawson Williamsport PA ________________________________________________________________________________
From: RWood90641(at)aol.com
Date: May 29, 2000
Subject: Re: RV6-Gear Legs and mounts.
Lonnie I have a son and family in Ft. Washington, PA. I am leaving to go there this coming Sat. and would go somewhat out of the way to Williamsport. I will go $325 on the 6A gear and this will save the hassle of shipping for you. I am driving a pickup so it works for me. Thanks, Ron Wood ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "William Mosley" <mosley(at)sedona.net>
Subject: Re: Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting]
Date: Jun 02, 2000
Matt, You are over manageing this site, I receive 2 messages from you about management for everthing I hear about airplanes. Leave it alone and maybe folks will use it. Bill ________________________________________________________________________________
From: CharlesRV6(at)aol.com
Date: Jun 03, 2000
Subject: RV-6 Cowl
A friend recently purchased an RV-6A that was flying with a Sabaru engine. He purchased it minus the engine and has installed a Lycoming. Now the cowling doesn't fit. Does anyone out there have an RV-6 cowl for sale? ________________________________________________________________________________
From: STUVANDYKE(at)aol.com
Date: Jul 02, 2000
Subject: re-subscribe
I would like to resubscribe to the RV-6 list. I believe I was dropped during a time when I could not empty or check my mailbox. Thank you, Stu Van Dyke ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Are Barstad" <abarstad(at)bconnex.net>
Subject: The tools are here!
Date: Jul 04, 2000
Hi Mark The tools arrived today and everything is in good order except the missing -6 rivet gauge as you suspected. Thanks for putting in the extra goodies as well. I seen tie-wraps and tape plus labels - great! I had tp pay $116 to get it from my local post office though. Customs assumed it was new tools (they have too) and taxed me 15% on top of the Canadian value. They told me I can get it back though so it's not a big deal but I have to ask you a small favour. Customs require that you send a list of all the tools you sent and just write that they were second-hand and sign it. You could either scan and send in e-mail or send it in an envelope. Thanks for your help - and sorry for being so impatient. It turned out that Customs had it for a long time. Are -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Mark Phillips Sent: May 18, 2000 11:10 PM Subject: RV6-List: tools for sale I have the following tools for sale (mint condition) All are AVERY tools. PT81 Rivet Spacing tool 10741 Jig Fixture Brackets 1042 Edge Rolling Tool 620 Bucking Bar 615 Bucking Bar 1044 Double Edge Deburring Tool (NEW) 500 Fluting Pliers 200 Cleco Pliers 1300 Rivet Cutters 1050 Flute Burring Cutter 1046-1 Swivel Handle 1046-2 Extension Handle 420 Nesco 3/8 Air Drill 1043 Swivel Head Deburring Tool 575 Hand Seamer 1001 Hand Riveting and Dimpling Tool 150 Air Tool Regulator 9425 2 1/2 Hand Rivet Squeezer 1048 Back Riveting Rivet Set 4704 .401 Sha;nk Short 1/8 19360 Countersink Cage 1007 Rivet Guage Set 1008 Rivet Length guage 1022 3/32 Pop Rivet Dimplers 4706 Rivet Set 3/16 All tools are in excellent condition, All were purchased from Avery. Prices from the current AVERY catalog total 772.25. Will take 20% off for a total of 615.00. Reply email at mphill(at)fgi.net or at 217-566-2500. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Lkyswede(at)aol.com
Date: Jul 09, 2000
Subject: Re: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:=20RV6-List=20Digest:=200=20Msgs=20-=2007/08/00?
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From: "Randall Henderson" <randallh(at)home.com>
Subject: Room at OSH available
Date: Jul 23, 2000
Well, my on-again off-again plans for OSH are off again, at least for most of it, so the room I had reserved will be available. This is a room with a queen bed in a nice house with central air. The hostess, Sharon Hawkins, provides continental breakfast. She works the EAA too so it should be possible to catch a ride with her to and from the show when she goes. The house is close to a bus line so you can get to/from that way too. Its available for the whole show. If interested, contact Sharon Hawkins, 920-232-8554. Please email me if you get the room so I can get my deposit back. Randall Henderson randall(at)edt.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Randall Henderson" <randallh(at)home.com>
Subject: Room at OSH taken
Date: Jul 23, 2000
Looks like the room I posted at OSH (Sharon Hawkins') has been taken (Charlie, be sure to let me and/or the list know if anything changes.) I will in fact be going but not until Friday or Saturday, and I'll just camp. Look forward to seeing y'all! Randall Henderson, RV-6 N6R (~100 hrs) Portland, OR http://www.edt.com/homewing ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Jul 30, 2000
Subject: New Windows Utility For SkyMap II/IIIC...
Listers, For those of you that have had the pleasure of flying with one of the new Skyforce/King Skymap II or IIICs, I've been working on a Windows application that you might be interested in. Its call SkyComm and allows you to connect up your Windows 95/98/NT/2000 PC or laptop to the RS232 serial port on the Skymap and manage a number of its internal datasets. Some of SkyComm's features include Screen Shot Capture, Upload/Download of up to 4000 characters to the Skymap's internal Notepad for something like an online checklists etc., Upload/Download of Waypoint and Route data, and Download of the Skymap's Logger database. There's even a built in wiring diagram for the requisite RS232 cable! I have just finished Version 1.0 and am considering this Beta 1. I have setup a rather extensive web site for information on the application and for its download. If you have a SkyMap, you're going to want this program! Best of all, its FREE! Well, I do ask that those that like it make a voluntary List contribution... :-) The URL for the site is listed below and can also now be found off the main Matronics web site as well as the specific List web pages. Please download the program and let me know what you think! Comments should be directed to support(at)matronics.com SkyComm Web Site ---------------- http://www.matronics.com/skycomm/ Best regards, Matt Dralle Email List Admin. -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft Great minds discuss ideas, Average minds discuss events, Small minds discuss people... ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Lkyswede(at)aol.com
Date: Aug 02, 2000
Subject: Re: ?UTF-8?Q?Re:=20RV6-List:=20Official=20Usage=20Guideline=20[Plea? =?UTF-8?Q?se=20Read]=20[Monthly=20Posting]?
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From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Aug 05, 2000
Subject: New RV-9 List At Matronics!
Hi RV Listers! Due to popular demand, I have added a new RV9-List email forum to the Matronics server. As you might have expected, the name of the list is: rv9-list(at)matronics.com and you may subscribe to it by going to the usual Subscription page found at: http://www.matronics.com/subscribe Be sure to scroll down to the newly added "RV9-List" and "RV9-List-Digest" buttons on the Subscription page. I have also added support in the Search Engine and Download sections for the new List. These can be found at: http://www.matronics.com/search and http://www.matronics.com/archives respectivly. Have fun, and best regards!!! Matt Dralle Email List Admin, Matronics. -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft Great minds discuss ideas, Average minds discuss events, Small minds discuss people... ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 24, 2000
From: larry laporte <llapo(at)dmv.com>
Subject: (no subject)
please un-subscribe to all mail list thank you ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Foelker David J LtCol 50FTS/ADO <david.foelker(at)columbus.af.mil>
Subject: RE: Czech-List: Unsubscribe
Date: Aug 24, 2000
Please unsubscribe me from Czech-List. V/R, David Foelker ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Foelker David J LtCol 50FTS/ADO <david.foelker(at)columbus.af.mil>
Subject: RV-List: RE: Czech-List: Unsubscribe
Date: Aug 24, 2000
--> RV-List message posted by: Foelker David J LtCol 50FTS/ADO Please unsubscribe me from Czech-List. V/R, David Foelker ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 24, 2000
From: larry laporte <llapo(at)dmv.com>
Subject: RV4-List: (no subject)
--> RV4-List message posted by: larry laporte please un-subscribe to all mail list thank you ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 24, 2000
From: larry laporte <llapo(at)dmv.com>
Subject: RV-List: (no subject)
--> RV-List message posted by: larry laporte please un-subscribe to all mail list thank you ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Foelker David J LtCol 50FTS/ADO <david.foelker(at)columbus.af.mil>
Subject: RV4-List: RE: Czech-List: Unsubscribe
Date: Aug 24, 2000
--> RV4-List message posted by: Foelker David J LtCol 50FTS/ADO Please unsubscribe me from Czech-List. V/R, David Foelker ________________________________________________________________________________
From: GeoR38(at)aol.com
Date: Sep 03, 2000
Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 09/02/00
Isn't there anyone on this list? GeoR38 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 03, 2000
From: Hank Gallagher <hank-g(at)swbell.net>
Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 09/02/00
I signed up two weeks ago and yours is the first message I have received. I'm not sure this list is still operational. I picked it up from a RV web site. Let me know if you fine the working site. Hank Gallagher N47HG Austin, TX ----- Original Message ----- From: <GeoR38(at)aol.com> Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 7:59 AM Subject: RV6-List: Re: RV6-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 09/02/00 > > Isn't there anyone on this list? > GeoR38 > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 03, 2000
From: Vaughn Mann <vlmann(at)highland.net>
Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 09/02/00
Hey guys, I just signed up a few days ago and this is the first traffic I've seen.. maybe we are on the wrong list? Should we maybe do the following just in case they want the info before engaging us with he reg. list? Or is it that the list is dormant at this time? I don't know! I found this in the welcome e-mail sent a couple of days ago. I'll paste it in for you so you wont have to search for it. I checked the e-mail list with a "who" command and none of us three are on the list! Vaughn Mann 755GJ La Follette TN. Note that if your email address begins to cause problems with bounced email, mail box full, or any other errors, your address will be promptly removed from the list. If you discover that you are no longer receiving messages from the RV-List, perform the "who" command as described in step number 4 above, to check for your address. If it is missing, *and you are SURE that your email address is working correctly*, you should then resubscribe as detailed above in command number 1. ***************** *** Important *** ***************** If you havn't done so already, please send your phone numbers and paper mail address in the following format: smith(at)somehost.com Joe Smith 123 Airport Lane Tower, CA 91234-1234 098-765-1234 w 123-456-7890 h to the following email address: request(at)matronics.com (not "rv-list-request(at)matronics.com") I have a file of such things for all of the rv-list members, that I typically use to contact you when there are problems with your email address. > >I signed up two weeks ago and yours is the first message I have received. >I'm not sure this list is still operational. I picked it up from a RV web >site. Let me know if you fine the working site. > >Hank Gallagher >N47HG >Austin, TX > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <GeoR38(at)aol.com> >To: ; >Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 7:59 AM >Subject: RV6-List: Re: RV6-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 09/02/00 > > >> >> Isn't there anyone on this list? >> GeoR38 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 03, 2000
From: old ogre <jollyd(at)teleport.com>
Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 09/02/00
it's working, Hank....jolly in aurora, or. Hank Gallagher wrote: > > I signed up two weeks ago and yours is the first message I have received. > I'm not sure this list is still operational. I picked it up from a RV web > site. Let me know if you fine the working site. > > Hank Gallagher > N47HG > Austin, TX > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <GeoR38(at)aol.com> > To: ; > Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 7:59 AM > Subject: RV6-List: Re: RV6-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 09/02/00 > > > > > Isn't there anyone on this list? > > GeoR38 > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "dwpeterson" <dwpeterson(at)gateway.net>
Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 09/02/00
Date: Sep 03, 2000
I am, where are the hot RV6 sites? -----Original Message----- From: GeoR38(at)aol.com <GeoR38(at)aol.com> rv6-list-digest(at)matronics.com Date: Sunday, September 03, 2000 6:02 AM Subject: RV6-List: Re: RV6-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 09/02/00 > >Isn't there anyone on this list? >GeoR38 > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Kevin D. Patsey" <kdp1(at)mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 09/02/00
Date: Sep 03, 2000
Will do! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hank Gallagher" <hank-g(at)swbell.net> Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 10:06 AM Subject: Re: RV6-List: Re: RV6-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 09/02/00 > > I signed up two weeks ago and yours is the first message I have received. > I'm not sure this list is still operational. I picked it up from a RV web > site. Let me know if you fine the working site. > > Hank Gallagher > N47HG > Austin, TX > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <GeoR38(at)aol.com> > To: ; > Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 7:59 AM > Subject: RV6-List: Re: RV6-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 09/02/00 > > > > > > Isn't there anyone on this list? > > GeoR38 > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 03, 2000
From: Mike Fiedler <mrfiedler(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 09/02/00
Hi! I've been kind of wondering myself.....no e mail since I signed up. Mike Fiedler 529 LM Montgomery, AL Vaughn Mann wrote: > > Hey guys, > I just signed up a few days ago and this is the first traffic I've seen.. > maybe we are on the wrong list? Should we maybe do the following just in > case they want the info before engaging us with he reg. list? Or is it > that the list is dormant at this time? I don't know! I found this in the > welcome e-mail sent a couple of days ago. I'll paste it in for you so you > wont have to search for it. I checked the e-mail list with a "who" command > and none of us three are on the list! > > Vaughn Mann > 755GJ > La Follette TN. > > Note that if your email address begins to cause problems with bounced > email, mail box full, or any other errors, your address will be promptly > removed from the list. If you discover that you are no longer receiving > messages from the RV-List, perform the "who" command as described in > step number 4 above, to check for your address. If it is missing, *and > you are SURE that your email address is working correctly*, you should then > resubscribe as detailed above in command number 1. > > ***************** > *** Important *** > ***************** > > If you havn't done so already, please send your phone numbers and paper mail > address in the following format: > > smith(at)somehost.com > Joe Smith > 123 Airport Lane > Tower, CA 91234-1234 > 098-765-1234 w > 123-456-7890 h > > to the following email address: > request(at)matronics.com (not "rv-list-request(at)matronics.com") > I have a file of such things for all of the rv-list members, that I typically > use to contact you when there are problems with your email address. > > > > >I signed up two weeks ago and yours is the first message I have received. > >I'm not sure this list is still operational. I picked it up from a RV web > >site. Let me know if you fine the working site. > > > >Hank Gallagher > >N47HG > >Austin, TX > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: <GeoR38(at)aol.com> > >To: ; > >Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 7:59 AM > >Subject: RV6-List: Re: RV6-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 09/02/00 > > > > > >> > >> Isn't there anyone on this list? > >> GeoR38 > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: paul.gervais(at)gov.ab.ca
Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 09/02/00
Date: Sep 03, 2000
05:59:17 PM I've been getting "0 Msgs" every day cluttering up my email, and no activity on the RV6 list. If anyone finds out why, let me know. Thanks Paul Gervais Mike Fiedler on 09/03/2000 05:17:38 PM Please respond to rv6-list(at)matronics.com; Please respond to Mike Fiedler Subject: Re: RV6-List: Re: RV6-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 09/02/00 Hi! I've been kind of wondering myself.....no e mail since I signed up. Mike Fiedler 529 LM Montgomery, AL Vaughn Mann wrote: > > Hey guys, > I just signed up a few days ago and this is the first traffic I've seen.. > maybe we are on the wrong list? Should we maybe do the following just in > case they want the info before engaging us with he reg. list? Or is it > that the list is dormant at this time? I don't know! I found this in the > welcome e-mail sent a couple of days ago. I'll paste it in for you so you > wont have to search for it. I checked the e-mail list with a "who" command > and none of us three are on the list! > > Vaughn Mann > 755GJ > La Follette TN. > > Note that if your email address begins to cause problems with bounced > email, mail box full, or any other errors, your address will be promptly > removed from the list. If you discover that you are no longer receiving > messages from the RV-List, perform the "who" command as described in > step number 4 above, to check for your address. If it is missing, *and > you are SURE that your email address is working correctly*, you should then > resubscribe as detailed above in command number 1. > > ***************** > *** Important *** > ***************** > > If you havn't done so already, please send your phone numbers and paper mail > address in the following format: > > smith(at)somehost.com > Joe Smith > 123 Airport Lane > Tower, CA 91234-1234 > 098-765-1234 w > 123-456-7890 h > > to the following email address: > request(at)matronics.com (not "rv-list-request(at)matronics.com") > I have a file of such things for all of the rv-list members, that I typically > use to contact you when there are problems with your email address. > > > > >I signed up two weeks ago and yours is the first message I have received. > >I'm not sure this list is still operational. I picked it up from a RV web > >site. Let me know if you fine the working site. > > > >Hank Gallagher > >N47HG > >Austin, TX > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: <GeoR38(at)aol.com> > >To: ; > >Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 7:59 AM > >Subject: RV6-List: Re: RV6-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 09/02/00 > > > > > >> > >> Isn't there anyone on this list? > >> GeoR38 > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 03, 2000
From: Buster Arrington <bustera(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: (no subject)
who ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 18, 2000
From: Steve McCartney <rv3flyr(at)attglobal.net>
Subject: RV-6 fuselage jig
If anyone needs an RV-6 fuselage jig, they can have mine for free. Located at CMA. Private me at www.rv3flyr(at)attglobal.net ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 18, 2000
From: "John F. O'Brien" <moose(at)std.teradyne.com>
Subject: Re: RV-6 fuselage jig
Steve, I live in Westlake Village an would like the jig. regards, -john O'Brien 818.991.2139 Steve McCartney wrote: > > If anyone needs an RV-6 fuselage jig, they can have mine for free. > Located at CMA. Private me at www.rv3flyr(at)attglobal.net > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 18, 2000
From: Rod Kimmell <rkimmell(at)teleport.com>
Subject: For Sale: RV6 Empennage and Wing
RV6 wing and empennage kit is for sale. Empennage 90% complete, Wing 20% complete. Phlogistron spar, lots of extras. Located near Portland, Oregon. Contact Rod Kimmell for further information: 503 985-0606 rkimmell(at)teleport.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Jerry2DT(at)aol.com
Date: Sep 30, 2000
Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 09/29/00
Please delete. Too many "0" messages... ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Oct 29, 2000
yak-list(at)matronics.com, rv6-list(at)matronics.com, rv8-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: List REPLY-TO Fuction Restored...
Hi Listers, I noticed a bit of discussion on the List regarding how the Reply-To field was working and there appeared to be some confusion. A couple of months ago I got this great idea to change the way the Reply-To email header was configured so that when a person did a Reply to a message they received from the List, it would by default go back to 1) The List, and 2) the Poster. This would mean in most cases the poster would get two copies of the message. The reason it seemed like a good idea was in the case where someone posted a message to another list that they weren't subscribed to, they would still get a reply back. (You only have to be subscribed to one List to be able to post to any of them.) Anyway, it seemed like a good idea at the time, but it seems to have caused a lot more confusion than it was worth. So, I've returned the configuration back to the way it used to be where a reply will just go back to the List. Best regards, Matt Dralle Email List Admin. -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft Great minds discuss ideas, Average minds discuss events, Small minds discuss people... ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Nov 01, 2000
Subject: A Season of Giving - Please Support Your List!
Dear Listers, As my good friend Al Mojzisik from the RV-List forum has pointed out in his humorous style this morning, its time for the Annual List Fund Raiser! For those that are new to the Lists since last year, I'd like to just mention what its all about. I have always run the List services here completely free of charge to the members. This includes the Email Lists, Archive Search Engine, as well as some of the other goodies found on the servers. My policy has always been that I will never charge a 'fee' to sign up for any of the email Lists and I have also turned down a number potentially lucrative of 'commercial' offers to provide advertising space either on the various web pages or on in each of the outgoing emails. I have always graciously declined these offers, however, because I have felt that the friendly, homey feeling of the commercial-free site was very appealing. I have also felt that offering the services here for free is the best way to stimulate the greatest membership, and in my opinion, this is the most important element in the success of a forum such as this. So, once again, I will restate my commitment to always keeping all of the services here on the Matronics servers free to everyone. That being said, I must also say that running this system is far from free for me, however. I am continually trying to provide the best, most reliable service possible and have continued to upgrade the systems as necessary to maintain or improve the level of service I provide. Quite aside from the "real costs" involved in the maintenance of a service like this, however, is the time commitment necessary to keep everything running and time required to produce new and improved software enhancements to make the whole experience more enjoyable for everyone. On the average I spend 10 to 20 hours a week handling subscription requests and related problems, maintaining the existing computer code base, and developing new utilities for the List community. The whole List site (web server and email server) continue to run across the 768kb/sec DSL-based Internet connection. Connections to the servers have generally been pretty reliable and performance has been good. Up time for the connection has approached the 99% mark. If you regularly enjoy the services provided here, I would ask that you make a Contribution in any amount in which you are comfortable. Your Contribution will be used to directly support the continued operation and improvement of all these services, and as always, I will turn your Contributions back into more upgrades and improvements. It is truly an investment in the future of these Lists. To make a SSL Secure Web Contribution using your Visa or MasterCard, please go to the following URL and follow the simple instructions: http://www.matronics.com/contribution.html To make a Contribution by check, please send US Mail to: c/o Matt Dralle Matronics PO Box 347 Livermore, CA 94551 As I have done in the past, I will post a "Contributors List" at the end of the Fund Raiser, personally acknowledging each and everyone that has generously made a Contribution this year! Finally, I just want to say *Thank You* to everyone that has supported me and my operation here this year. Your support and encouragement means a great deal to me and I feel like I have friends literally from all around the world! Sincerely, Matt Dralle Your Email List Administrator dralle(at)matronics.com ============================================================================ >-------------- >--> RV-List message posted by: Al Mojzisik > >Well folks, > >I hate to spring this on you without much advance warning and all but it's >November already. For you newer List members you may not know but this is >the time of year we all give "thanks" for all that Matte Dralle has done >for us with this RV-List. the customary way of saying "thanks" is with a >voluntary donation of cash through Matte's own simple and safe contribution >hot-line at: > > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > >It's really rather painless and actually gives you a good warm and fuzzy >feeling inside after you have made your contribution. Now last year I >relied heavily on guilt to get some of you harder nuts to crack to ante >up. This year I hope that in keeping with the election year theme I can >learn something from the experts........"It's for the children." > >Yes your contribution will help children everywhere learn about the high >moral values that are inherent in the RV family of aircraft. As our young >charges surf the Internet for information on various things that we don't >want them to know about, they may stumble across the Matronics Website and >become aware of the RV-List and other interesting forums that Matte >provides. This in turn may change there lives as they see what can be >achieved through hard work and perseverance. They will learn how the polite >exchange of idea's between consenting adults can result in the birth of one >(or more) of the finest aircraft in existence today. They can become aware >of a whole world out there that had previously been unknown or out of reach >to them. So in the interest of our children, send your contribution to >Matte to help the RV-List live long and prosper.............Darn, got my >tongue caught in my cheek there for a moment. > >Once again, you can make your contribution through credit card at: > > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > c/o Matt Dralle > Matronics > P.O. Box 347 > Livermore, CA. 94551 > >I would like to pledge at this time that I will not place any negative >advertising in the hope of raising funds for RV-List support. (Unless you >folks hold out too long, then look out!) Let's have a real clean campaign >this November and get out the contributions! AL >-------------- -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft Great minds discuss ideas, Average minds discuss events, Small minds discuss people... ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Nov 03, 2000
Subject: List Fund Raiser Continues...
Hello Listers! This is just a reminder that the Annual List Fund Raiser is currently underway. Won't you make a Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of this valuable resource? Your Contribution can be made via a Secure SSL Internet Transaction with your Visa or MasterCard at the URL shown below or you may send it via US Mail to the address also listed below. http://www.matronics.com/contribution or c/o Matt Dralle Matronics P.O. Box 347 Livermore, CA 94551 Thank you for your support! Your generosity directly makes this List possible. Matt Dralle Email List Admin. -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft Great minds discuss ideas, Average minds discuss events, Small minds discuss people... ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 05, 200
Subject: Re: List Fund Raiser Continues...
From: "E. D. Yoes" <eyoes(at)stic.net>
On Fri, Nov 3, 2000 11:33 AM, M. Drallle wrote: >Won't you make a Contribution via US Mail to the >address also listed below. > c/o Matt Dralle > Matronics > P.O. Box 347 > Livermore, CA 94551 I mailed a check to that address about two months ago and it has not cleared yet. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Nov 05, 2000
"Re: RV6-List: List Fund Raiser Continues..." (Nov 5, 5:46am)
Subject: Re: List Fund Raiser Continues...
>-------------- > >On Fri, Nov 3, 2000 11:33 AM, M. Drallle wrote: >>Won't you make a Contribution via US Mail to the >>address also listed below. > >> c/o Matt Dralle >> Matronics >> P.O. Box 347 >> Livermore, CA 94551 > >I mailed a check to that address about two months >ago and it has not cleared yet. >-------------- Evan, I did received your check and I appologize for the delay in cashing. Matt -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft Great minds discuss ideas, Average minds discuss events, Small minds discuss people... ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Nov 07, 2000
Subject: 2000 List Fund Raiser Underway...
Hi Listers, Just a quick reminder that the 2000 Email List Fund Raiser is underway and participation so far as been good. If you haven't made your contribution yet, won't you take a moment and make one today? The continued operation and improvement of these services are directly enabled by the generous contributions of its members. You may make a contribution with either your Visa or Mastercard using the Matronics SSL Secure website at: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or with a personal check to: c/o Matt Dralle Matronics PO Box 347 Livermore, CA 94551 Thank you to all those that have already made a contribution! Best regards, Matt Dralle Email List Admin. -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft Great minds discuss ideas, Average minds discuss events, Small minds discuss people... ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Nov 07, 2000
Subject: Homebuilt-List: 2000 List Fund Raiser Underway...
--> Homebuilt-List message posted by: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) Hi Listers, Just a quick reminder that the 2000 Email List Fund Raiser is underway and participation so far as been good. If you haven't made your contribution yet, won't you take a moment and make one today? The continued operation and improvement of these services are directly enabled by the generous contributions of its members. You may make a contribution with either your Visa or Mastercard using the Matronics SSL Secure website at: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or with a personal check to: c/o Matt Dralle Matronics PO Box 347 Livermore, CA 94551 Thank you to all those that have already made a contribution! Best regards, Matt Dralle Email List Admin. -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft Great minds discuss ideas, Average minds discuss events, Small minds discuss people... ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Nov 07, 2000
Subject: Zenith-List: 2000 List Fund Raiser Underway...
--> Zenith-List message posted by: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) Hi Listers, Just a quick reminder that the 2000 Email List Fund Raiser is underway and participation so far as been good. If you haven't made your contribution yet, won't you take a moment and make one today? The continued operation and improvement of these services are directly enabled by the generous contributions of its members. You may make a contribution with either your Visa or Mastercard using the Matronics SSL Secure website at: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or with a personal check to: c/o Matt Dralle Matronics PO Box 347 Livermore, CA 94551 Thank you to all those that have already made a contribution! Best regards, Matt Dralle Email List Admin. -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft Great minds discuss ideas, Average minds discuss events, Small minds discuss people... ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Nov 07, 2000
Subject: Rocket-List: 2000 List Fund Raiser Underway...
--> Rocket-List message posted by: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) Hi Listers, Just a quick reminder that the 2000 Email List Fund Raiser is underway and participation so far as been good. If you haven't made your contribution yet, won't you take a moment and make one today? The continued operation and improvement of these services are directly enabled by the generous contributions of its members. You may make a contribution with either your Visa or Mastercard using the Matronics SSL Secure website at: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or with a personal check to: c/o Matt Dralle Matronics PO Box 347 Livermore, CA 94551 Thank you to all those that have already made a contribution! Best regards, Matt Dralle Email List Admin. -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft Great minds discuss ideas, Average minds discuss events, Small minds discuss people... ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Nov 08, 2000
Subject: Huge Apology for "List Malfunction"...
Dear Listers, I am so embarrassed by the List-gone-crazy tonight! I'm not sure exactly went wrong. I'm suspecting that someone with an email account at msm.com may have been reposting my message from this morning over and over again maliciously spamming the system, but I can't really prove that. In any case, I am hugely embarrassed and sorry for the ton of messages that went out tonight regarding the 2000 Fund Raiser. Something went wrong on the system or somebody did me wrong; in either case I apologize for the huge dump of messages. My sincerest apologies... Matt Dralle Email List Admin. -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft Great minds discuss ideas, Average minds discuss events, Small minds discuss people... ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Nov 13, 2000
Subject: New List MIME/HTML/Enclosure Filter Implemented...
Dear Listers, With the pervasiveness of email applications using HTML (web formatting) and MIME encoding such as AOL 6.0, Netscape, Eudora and others it was clear that I needed to come up with an improved method for limiting how messages posted to the various Lists was handled. As of today, November 13 2000 you should be able to configure your email program any way you like - with or without special formatting - and your message will still be accepted my the Matronics system. Also, if you include any sort of enclosure data, your message will also still be accepted instead of bounced back. But wait, it gets even better! Everything except for the plain text will be automatically stripped from the incoming post including any HTML, MIME, and/or enclosure data prior to redistribution. This should serve to both ease the configuration burden on the many users, and to increase the readability of both the posted messages and the archives. I had a few 'bugs' with the filter on Sunday and Monday morning, so if you received a few messages that seemed "odd", than this was probably why. Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Admin. -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft Great minds discuss ideas, Average minds discuss events, Small minds discuss people... ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 14, 2000
From: Jim Ivey <jim(at)jimivey.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: New List MIME/HTML/Enclosure Filter Implemented...
Everything you need to know can be found at the following url: http://www.matronics.com/contribution/ I just used the secure credit-card option. There is also a snail-mail address for you old-fashioned types (i.e. back in the good old days when folks wouldn't abscond with your credit card info) ;) Jim Ivey N46YK Matt Dralle wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) > > Dear Listers, > > With the pervasiveness of email applications using HTML (web formatting) > and MIME encoding such as AOL 6.0, Netscape, Eudora and others it was > clear that I needed to come up with an improved method for limiting how > messages posted to the various Lists was handled. > > As of today, November 13 2000 you should be able to configure your email > program any way you like - with or without special formatting - and your > message will still be accepted my the Matronics system. Also, if you > include any sort of enclosure data, your message will also still be > accepted instead of bounced back. > > But wait, it gets even better! Everything except for the plain text > will be automatically stripped from the incoming post including any > HTML, MIME, and/or enclosure data prior to redistribution. This should > serve to both ease the configuration burden on the many users, and to > increase the readability of both the posted messages and the archives. > > I had a few 'bugs' with the filter on Sunday and Monday morning, so if > you received a few messages that seemed "odd", than this was probably > why. > > Best regards, > > Matt Dralle > Matronics Email List Admin. > > -- > > Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 > 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email > http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft > > Great minds discuss ideas, > Average minds discuss events, > Small minds discuss people... > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Nick Nafsinger" <rvator(at)alltel.net>
Subject: Nebraska builders?
Date: Nov 19, 2000
Just trying to find any active builders / pilots in the Lincoln NE. area. I'm relatively new to the area (6 months) and am FINALLY financially able to start -6, now I'm looking for others in the area. Thanks much! Nick rvator(at)alltel.net ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Ken Broste" <spiritmoves(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: What Listers Are Saying...
Date: Nov 20, 2000
Matt, I think what you're doing is great for those of us flying and building Kolb aircraft. You're probably saving Kolb a full time employee in tech support just by providing the communication between builders. I know I have had a half dozen questions answered here on the list and saved Kolb support a few phone calls. You should forward this letter to Kolb, maybe they'd ante up, too. It would be great PR for the TN Kolb a/c. Thanks a bunch, Matt! Ken Broste Building a Firestar Tucson, AZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Dralle" <dralle(at)matronics.com> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 10:33 AM Subject: Kolb-List: What Listers Are Saying... > --> Kolb-List message posted by: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) > > > Dear Listers, > > During this year's List Fund Raiser I have been receiving a number of > very nice comments from members regarding what the Lists mean to them. > I'm sure most everyone can echo one or more of the thoughts expressed > below. Won't you take a moment to make a Contribution to support the > continued operation and improvment of your Lists? > > A special 'thank you' to everyone that has made a contribution so far > and for all of the wonderful and supportive comments I've received! > > > To make a contribution with a credit card over an SSL Secure Web Site, > please go to the following URL: > > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > or, to make a contribution with a person check, please mail it to: > > Matronics > c/o Matt Dralle > PO Box 347 > Livermore, CA 94551 > > > Thank you!! > > Matt Dralle > Email List Admin. > > > ===================== Comments From List Members ======================== > > > * You helped make this dream a reality... -Terry C. > > * Thanks for a wonderful resource! -Rick J. > > * Thanks for providing a quality product. -Bill C. > > * Have found [the List] invaluable for education while building... -Rick H. > > > * I learn so much from the List! -Robert R. > > * [The List] is better than any aviation magazines I subscribe o. -Roger H. > > * I enjoy the pages and find them very helpful. -Noel G. > > * The "List" is a great place to both receive and exten help and ideas for > building and making flying safer. -Jack B. > > > * The discussions are very helpful. -James B. > > * ...I believe this List will be a better value than the ewsletter. -Roger T. > > * [The List] has helped me with the construction of my RV-9. -Marty S. > > * VERY good reading. Excellent entertainment value. -Jerry I. > > > * [The List] has saved me many hour on wild goose chases. -Billy W. > > * Thanks for keeping my passion for flying as piqued as ever. -Terry W. > > * Keep up the nice work. -Daniel H. > > * Thanks for all the effort on behalf of Sport Aviation! -Elbie M. > > > * ...Great information source! -Richard W. > > * ...Thanks for your help and patience with a very difficult ask. -Louis W. > > * [The List] has been a great asset. -Edward C. > > * Just started and already received some valuable tips. -Scott S. > > > * Thanks for the List to let up share our passion. -Brian A. > > * ...This List is good stuff. -Russ D. > > * ...The single most helpful resource I've come across in uilding. -Craig P. > > * ...Enjoy [the List] a lot. -John H. > > > * The List is a most important tool to help building. -Brad R. > > * ...Really found the List to be great! -Geoff T. > > * Excellent contribution to the aviation community. -Larry B. > > * Great source of information... -William G. > > > * The Lists ... make building a real hoot! -Jeff O. > > * The List has been invaluable. -Matt P. > > * Thanks for letting me use the site. It's great! -Larry M. > > * ...This List has been very helpful. -Larry H. > > > * Greatest support ever for the builders and I have met many riends. -Fred H. > > * ...I love this List and have met many new friends... -Tom E. > > * Love both the List and the Search Engine. -Roy G. > > > ===================== Comments From List Members ======================== > > > -- > > > Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 > 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email > http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft > > Great minds discuss ideas, > Average minds discuss events, > Small minds discuss people... > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Jsu24osu(at)aol.com
Date: Nov 22, 2000
Subject: Re: Nebraska builders?
Nick, I'm not in Nebraska but saw your note. Don't know if you have a 6 yet or just wanting one. I have two, one almost ready for paint and another with a lot built. Sort of a super quick build kit which I need to sell. All work done is top rate and will not take second place to many 6's. Price is right. Let me if you might be interested or past it along if you know someone looking for a good jump start. Joe Underwood ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 26, 2000
From: "Douglas E. Bostard" <dougacft(at)jps.net>
Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 11/22/00
I got your jump-start. Just finished 41 hours on a new as yet unpainted RV6A. Had a small "seizure" in my left cheek only a week before test flight. I'm now fighting a losing battle with Oklahoma and prefer a 'rrhoidectomy sans anasthetic" but will probably sell it. It is a creampuff with $12K in the panel and rblt to new specs 0-320/new C/S prop. Doug Bostard- N. Calif. Talk about jumpstart! email me for details. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Bezinque, David" <David_Bezinque(at)MAXTOR.COM>
Subject: RV6 slider track fairing
Date: Nov 30, 2000
How do you bend the slider track fairing? I have tried using a small bending brake, but the bends are too close together to fit in the brake. Is there a better way? Dave Bezinque RV6 QB S/N3499 - ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 30, 2000
From: bcbraem(at)home.com
Subject: Re: RV6 slider track fairing
One of our builders just did one nicely on an "English Wheel". I assume you're talking about the bottom/rear part of the fairing that needs a compund curve to fit the fuselage. Boyd Venice, FL > > > How do you bend the slider track fairing? I have tried using a small bending > brake, but the bends are too close together to fit in the brake. Is there a > better way? > > Dave Bezinque > RV6 QB S/N3499 > > - > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 30, 2000
From: Mike Thompson <grobdriver(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: RV6 slider track fairing
--- bcbraem(at)home.com wrote: > > One of our builders just did one nicely on an "English Wheel". I > assume > you're talking about the bottom/rear part of the fairing that needs a > compund curve to fit the fuselage. > > Boyd He's referring to the cover bridging the rear skirts and covers the sliding track on the top of the fuselage behind the canopy. One of our number has made these in the past, I understand. I've been watching this thread as I will need to do this very soon. Mike Thompson Austin, TX -6 N140RV (Reserved) Canopy (could you guess?) ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 01, 2000
From: "Douglas E. Bostard" <dougacft(at)jps.net>
Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 11/30/00
I assume you mean the bottom skirts outside the track. I carefully bent mine by hand but if you encounter a compound curved area try a metal shrinker on that part. This is especially good for the rear (top of fuselage) skirts if they don't quite fit tightly onto the upper fus. skins aft of cockpit. If the latter are drilled an fitted and clecoed progressively from outboard to center (and trimmed aft later) it helps to actually have 3 people pulling (stretch forming) and one person drilling frame and clecoing. Hope this helps. I didn't find anyt compounds on my side skirts..shaped (bowed) them by hand. Doug ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 01, 2000
From: "Vern Darley, 11" <vern(at)mindspring.com>
Subject: Need to buy an RV-6 project/tools in the SEUS
I am looking for an RV-6 project and will consider those at any stage.I prefer SE US since I'm in Atlanta so transportation will be easier. Thanks! Vern Darley 5 Perthshire Drive Peachtree City, GA 30269 w 770 487-6307 9-6 est h-770 487-5155 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 02, 2000
From: "Douglas E. Bostard" <dougacft(at)jps.net>
Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 12/01/00
Vern: A few days ago, there were a couple posted in this forum for sale by one individual...in varying stages of completion. Doug Bostard ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 03, 2000
From: "Douglas E. Bostard" <dougacft(at)jps.net>
Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 12/02/00
Van's aircraft also has some hellish good deals on planes, engines, etc. in their classifiedss..but usually they're snapped up beffore the info gets to your mailbox. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 01, 2000
From: "Vern Darley, 11" <vern(at)mindspring.com>
Subject: RV-List: Need to buy an RV-6 project/tools in the SEUS
--> RV-List message posted by: "Vern Darley, 11" I am looking for an RV-6 project and will consider those at any stage.I prefer SE US since I'm in Atlanta so transportation will be easier. Thanks! Vern Darley 5 Perthshire Drive Peachtree City, GA 30269 w 770 487-6307 9-6 est h-770 487-5155 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 05, 2000
Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 12/04/00
From: Daniel P Farson <danfarson(at)juno.com>
I want to be removed from this list. Using the automated method isn't working. Administrator - PLEASE HELP. R Daniel Farson ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Bezinque, David" <David_Bezinque(at)MAXTOR.COM>
Subject: RV6 sliding canopy painting question
Date: Dec 07, 2000
I am wondering what the best way is to paint the sliding canopy aluminum parts. I plan to paint the inside surfaces to match the "Polar Grey" of the rest of the cockpit before assembly. I am still not sure what color to paint the airplane, so can I mask off all the Plexiglas and prime and paint the exterior later, after the canopy is assembled? I am especially concerned about the aluminum strip across the top of the canopy. Does any paint that gets under the masking tape affect the Plexiglas? Dave Bezinque RV-6 QB david_bezinque(at)maxtor.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Rick Caldwell" <racaldwell(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: RV6 sliding canopy painting question
Date: Dec 07, 2000
David, I painted my canopy after it was assembled. Just removed it from the airplane and masked it off. I'd recommend using 3M fineline tape instead of masking tape around the edges. be sure to press the tape edge down good and no paint will get under. I used PPG Concept paint and there is not any visible detrimental effects on the plastic where the paint touches it. Rick Caldwell -6 165 hrs since 1/12/00 Melbourne, FL >From: "Bezinque, David" <David_Bezinque(at)MAXTOR.COM> >Reply-To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com >To: "'rv6-list(at)matronics.com'" >Subject: RV6-List: RV6 sliding canopy painting question >Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 10:45:35 -0700 > > > > I am wondering what the best way is to paint the sliding canopy >aluminum parts. I plan to paint the inside surfaces to match the "Polar >Grey" of the rest of the cockpit before assembly. I am still not sure what >color to paint the airplane, so can I mask off all the Plexiglas and prime >and paint the exterior later, after the canopy is assembled? I am >especially >concerned about the aluminum strip across the top of the canopy. Does any >paint that gets under the masking tape affect the Plexiglas? > > >Dave Bezinque >RV-6 QB >david_bezinque(at)maxtor.com > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 09, 2000
From: Doyal Plute <dplute(at)horizon.hit.net>
Subject: carb nuts?
what kind of nuts are used to install carb to 0-360? elastic stop nuts or steel stop nuts? thanks: Doyal ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "tdale4" <tdale4(at)email.msn.com>
Subject: RV6A or 9A
Date: Dec 10, 2000
Can anyone tell me the main differences between the RV6A and the RV9A? I've looked at Van's homepage but the both look so similar. I guess the 9A is better if you don't plan on doing aerobatics????? It seems easier to build, almost as fast with a smaller engine, and a little larger inside. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Harvey Sigmon" <flyhars(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: carb nuts?
Date: Dec 10, 2000
Doyal: Use Steel nuts, course thread and lock washer. ----- Original Message ----- From: Doyal Plute Sent: 12/9/00 11:44:25 PM Subject: RV6-List: carb nuts? -- RV6-List message posted by: Doyal Plute dplute(at)horizon.hit.net what kind of nuts are used to install carb to 0-360? elastic stop nuts or steel stop nuts? thanks: Doyal http://www.matronics.com/order --- Harvey Sigmon --- flyhars(at)earthlink.net --- EarthLink: It's your Internet. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 10, 2000
From: "Douglas E. Bostard" <dougacft(at)jps.net>
Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 12/09/00
don't quote me but I was instructed to use ordinary coarse thread (if I recall) hardware store nuts with star lockwashers. It's been a while, but you may find that's the thread category on the studs. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 11, 2000
From: "Douglas E. Bostard" <dougacft(at)jps.net>
Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 12/10/00
Gossip/and fact: I believe it's intended more as a trainer, fatter airfoil, more forgiving lift/stall, etc. Has to be slower-especially powered as the prototype. Van will tell you if you call. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 11, 2000
From: MLSRV6(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 12/10/00
THE RV9 IS A LITTLE WIDER THAN THE 6. THE 9 HAS A NEW TYPE WING THAT IS ABOUT 5 FOOT LONGER THAN HTE 6. THE STALL SPEED ON THE 9 IS LOWER THAN THE 6. THE 9 IS MORE A TRAINER . ________________________________________________________________________________
From: CRASHOCONNOR(at)aol.com
Date: Dec 11, 2000
Subject: Re: RV6A or 9A
The RV9A has the same fuselage as the RV6a but has longer wings for more stability and slower stall speeds. Also I don't think you can get a quick build kit for an RV9A. RV9's were made for lower time pilots. i.e. easier to handle.Not as pitch and roll sensitive. Good luck ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 13, 2000
From: "Douglas E. Bostard" <dougacft(at)jps.net>
Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 12/11/00
Re: Pitch and roll sensiteve: I have noted my 6A in cruise will gain or lose a thou feet when I'm not looking just because my lunch has passed from my stomach to my lower intestines. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 14, 2000
From: SSPRING83(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 11/26/00
Dear Doug I,m in the market for an rv-4 or6. Serious buyer twell me more about it and how long you,ve had it, etc etc etc. George Spring Chester Conn., ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Craig Brenden" <brencotool(at)abq.com>
Subject: oil separator
Date: Dec 15, 2000
I'm planning on putting an oil separator on the firewall of my 0-360 equipped RV-6. Where is the best place on the engine to drain the oil collected from the separator back to ? Let me know your what works best. Craig ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Tim Lewis" <timrv6a(at)earthlink.net>
Date: Dec 15, 2000
Subject: Re: oil separator
> I'm planning on putting an oil separator on the firewall of my 0-360 > equipped RV-6. Where is the best place on the engine to drain the oil > collected from the separator back to ? Let me know your what works > best. I drain mine into a little Matco brake reservoir with a quick drain at the bottom. I empty it at each oil change. It gets about 1/3 full. Tim ****** Tim Lewis -- Springfield VA RV-6A N47TD - First Flight 18 Dec 99 TimRV6A(at)earthlink.net http://www.geocities.com/timrv6a ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Rick Franklin" <rickfranklin(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: RV-6 with Auto Engine
Date: Dec 16, 2000
I am trying to add a cabin heater to my RV-6 (Ser 20069,N2ST, still in building stage), but cannot as yet decide the best route to go. Can any of you auto engine users give me a lead? Especially on the shroud/duct/dump valve/firewall opening. Thanks Rick --- Rick Franklin --- rickfranklin(at)earthlink.net --- EarthLink: It's your Internet. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 16, 2000
From: "Douglas E. Bostard" <dougacft(at)jps.net>
Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 12/15/00
My separator is on the firewall and it's from a Cessna 150. It's right under and adjacent to the brake fluid reservoir. By way of a reducer, it drains into a 1/8" ID hose that goes to a fitting (small brass-barbed and clamped) tapped into the dipstick tube BELOW the level of the separator. Careful..mine is plastic. I have one because I have a wet vacuum pump which sill spit out a pint an hour on the belly absent the separator. I speakjfrom bitter experience. I'm not sure that it will work for the breather, bu I think it would. I can't tap into it with the breathr since I think a 'Y' would tend to pressurize the crankcase, but I'm not sure. I know others who weld a sureflow 'Y' into an exhause pipe to burn off any overboard residue. Again, avoiding pressurizing the crankcase is a factor to avoid. You can lose even more oil that way if you don't also blow the seal (an x-rated eskimo euphemism) on the front of the shaft. Hope you get help. Doug ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 17, 2000
From: "Douglas E. Bostard" <dougacft(at)jps.net>
Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 12/16/00
You can always browse the junkyard fo one...I browsed an aircraft salvage yard in Sacramento and bouht a nice Cessna 150 firwall unit-easy to install lower right firewall on a 6A. Also, mounted the 2" outlet fitting going to the heatmuff inlet on the shroud around the #3 cyl just above the heatmuff at the back baffle. Gets prewarmed air there. Hope this helps. Don't know about auto. I have separate valve behind firewall which diverts heat to pilot side defrost. I had to invent this box from fiberglass with inner workings of aluminum. Good luck ________________________________________________________________________________
From: CRASHOCONNOR(at)aol.com
Date: Dec 17, 2000
Subject: Re: Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting]
Is there anyone out there that has come up with an in flight and pre-flight checklist for an RV6A. I have recently purchased an RV6A and it did not come with one. I would be most grateful for anyone's help in this matter. Thank You Mike O'Connor Email crashoconnor(at)aol.com ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 18, 2000
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Subject: WARNING : VIRUS
Dragi Drugari, Ne otvarajte nikakav atashment sa moje strane jer postoji mogudjnost da vam dodje automatski sa mog konpjutera.Radi se o nekom virusu koji je napravio dar-mar kod mene a dolazi sa Vladinog konpjutera. Dear friends, Please do not open any attachment from me because it contain virus which can damage your files. Virus came automaticly to me from another friend and damaged my files. Regards, RILE ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Joe Edmondson" <tazman(at)lakemartin.net>
Subject: RV-6
Date: Dec 18, 2000
I have a 1993 RV-6 Empenage and Wing kit for sale. The empenage kit is 95% complete. The wing kit which has the Phlogiston spar has been uncrated, but not touched since. Both kits are before the pre-punched era. I did not order the electric trim or any other options. Will sell both kits for $3000.00. Vans cost today would be around $6085.00. I live in Dadeville, Alabama which is 120 miles southwest of Atlanta, Ga. If I can answer any more questions ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 18, 2000
From: David Moore <dgmoore1(at)gte.net>
Subject: Re: RV-6
Joe, It just so happens I am in the market for a wing kit. I was going to order it from Van's after the first of the year. I already have a Empennage kit of my own and mine is also the before pre-punch design. Have you done anything to the wing kit other than uncrate it? Do you still have the inventory sheet? And do you still have the crate? Dave Moore >I have a 1993 RV-6 Empenage and Wing kit for sale. The empenage kit is 95% >complete. The wing kit which has the Phlogiston spar has been uncrated, but >not touched since. Both kits are before the pre-punched era. I did not order >the electric trim or any other options. Will sell both kits for $3000.00. >Vans cost today would be around $6085.00. I live in Dadeville, Alabama which >is 120 miles southwest of Atlanta, Ga. If I can answer any more questions David G. Moore mailto:dgmoore1(at)gte.net Henderson, Nevada ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 19, 2000
From: "Douglas E. Bostard" <dougacft(at)jps.net>
Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 12/17/00
CHECKLIST: I have 2 separate checklists I developed which are comprehensive for my 6A. One for prestart, other side for preflight, then one for prelanding. They are laminated and computer generated with some notations in red. Also made up a cheatsheet for the VM 1000 which is somewhat complicated in various modes. It helps a little. I could email you what I have and you could modify/regenerate to suit, then print, then lamiunate. Mine are about 3.5" X 5.0" Doug B. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "elizabeth lincoln" <curby1(at)shianet.org>
Subject: radios
Date: Dec 19, 2000
Does anyone have any experience with the ICS Plus combination comm/vor/glidscope/intercom all in one?sure would save space and would be simple. Only costs $1360. Andy ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 20, 2000
From: abavac(at)pacbell.net
Subject: Re: radios
elizabeth lincoln wrote: > > Does anyone have any experience with the ICS Plus combination > comm/vor/glidscope/intercom all in one?sure would save space and would > be simple. Only costs $1360. > > Andy > CONTACT HANK HUDDLESTON(at)BAHAHUD@AOL.COM HE HAS USED AN ICS RADIO IN HIS > LAST TWO PLANES, ONE AN RV-4 IRWIN ABRAMS @ ABAVAC(at)PACBELL.NET ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Gerard Pearson" <wildgoose(at)outerbounds.net>
Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 12/19/00
Date: Dec 21, 2000
----- Original Message ----- From: RV6-List Digest Server <rv6-list-digest(at)matronics.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 12:54 AM Subject: RV6-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 12/19/00 > * > > ____ > From: "Douglas E. Bostard" <dougacft(at)jps.net> > Subject: RV6-List: Re: RV6-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 12/17/00 > > > CHECKLIST: I have 2 separate checklists I developed which are > comprehensive for my 6A. One for prestart, other side for preflight, > then one for prelanding. They are laminated and computer generated with > some notations in red. Also made up a cheatsheet for the VM 1000 which > is somewhat complicated in various modes. It helps a little. I could > email you what I have and you could modify/regenerate to suit, then > print, then lamiunate. Mine are about 3.5" X 5.0" Doug B. > > > Doug: Could you E mail me a copy of your checklists for the RV-6/A, and for the VM-1000 as well. Wasn't there someone or someplace that had developed an "aircraft-pilot operation handbook" for the RV-4 and/or RV-6. It seems to me I either read something via E-mail or otherwise regarding the POH. Any hints of that in your travels? Thanks Gerard Pearson > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: d.meloche(at)att.net
Subject: fuse jig available
Date: Dec 22, 2000
Listers, I have just finished with my 6 fuselage jig. It is located in the philadelphia area and has built five fuselages. It is extremely accurate with planed cross beams. The only other person in this area that I know of who wants it won't need it for 1 1/2 years or so. If anyone is at that point in the building process and is intersted please email me off-list. I paid $220 for it and will release it for same. When you're done there will be another builder lined up who will take it off your hands. Essentially a free jig (minus interest costs) Doug M d.meloche(at)att.net ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "David Sundberg" <david_fs(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: RE: RV6-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 12/21/00
Date: Dec 22, 2000
Gerard, This is the link to the POH I think you are referring to: http://www.mstewart.net/michael/rv/rvhome.htm Dave Wasn't there someone or someplace that had developed an "aircraft-pilot operation handbook" for the RV-4 and/or RV-6. It seems to me I either read something via E-mail or otherwise regarding the POH. Any hints of that in your travels? Thanks Gerard Pearson ________________________________________________________________________________ User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630)
Date: Dec 22, 2000
Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 12/19/00
From: Tedd McHenry <tedd(at)telus.net>
There's an RV-6A POH and a set of flight test log cards on the web site of Van's Air Force Western Canada Wing. http://www.vansairforce.org Tedd McHenry Van's Air Force Western Canada Wing tedd(at)vansairforce.org www.vansairforce.org ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Heinrich Gerhardt" <hgerhardt(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: fuse jig available
Date: Dec 28, 2000
My RV-6 fuselage jig is now also available, and mine's in the LA area. The jig is very accurate with jointed and planed lumber, and a nice adjustable leg setup with 1/2" thick aluminum pads that can be bondo'ed to the floor. It's 6" taller than what Van's suggests which makes it nice to sit inside the "tub" when backdrilling and bucking. The front and rear uprights are removable with keyed brackets, and the whole thing is two pieces with eight legs for easy transport. Since Doug M. is charging $220 for his, that's what I'll charge too. It's located at Torrance airport. Heinrich Gerhardt hgerhardt(at)earthlink.net ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 18, 2001
From: Ristic Vlastimir <rileyu(at)rad.net.id>
Subject: Throttle Quadrants
Hi everyone, Does somebody has experience with side throttle quadrant installation on RV-6 ? Thanks, RILE Indonesia ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Jan 21, 2001
Subject: Matronics Web Server Upgrade...
B Dear Listers, I will be upgrading the Matronics Web Server this afternoon (1/21/01) and will be taking it offline for a number of hours. I hope to have it back online by this evening sometime, depending on how well the upgrade goes. Best regards, Matt Dralle Email List Admin. -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft Great minds discuss ideas, Average minds discuss events, Small minds discuss people... ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Bezinque, David" <David_Bezinque(at)MAXTOR.COM>
Subject: Tube Valve Stem nut & washer
Date: Jan 25, 2001
I was mounting my tires this morning and found that the washer and nut supplied with the tube just barely fit in the valve stem hole (Cleveland wheels). I am talking about the hole in the center of the rim. I left them out of the first wheel because they don't serve a purpose, but had second thoughts on the next wheel. Anyone have any thoughts on this incredible dilemma? Dave Bezinque david_bezinque(at)maxtor.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Mell" <kitplane(at)tradezone.com>
Subject: RV-6 AFP Fuel Filter/Pump System (pics)
Date: Jan 29, 2001
Below is a link to install pictures of Ross Briegleb and Hutch's Airflow Performance fuel filter and fuel pump system on their RV-6. This plane has some real clean installs and enhancements. http://www.kitplaneforum.com/ubb/Forum13/HTML/000005.html Mell ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Dave Berryhill" <dwberryhill(at)home.com>
Subject: Re: RV-6 AFP Fuel Filter/Pump System (pics)
Date: Jan 29, 2001
> Below is a link to install pictures of Ross Briegleb and Hutch's Airflow > Performance fuel filter and fuel pump system on their RV-6. This plane has > some real clean installs and enhancements. > > http://www.kitplaneforum.com/ubb/Forum13/HTML/000005.html > > Mell Very nice! Regarding the last photo, what is a purge valve? Dave Berryhill RV-0 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Mell" <kitplane(at)tradezone.com>
Subject: Re: RV-6 AFP Fuel Filter/Pump System (pics)
Date: Jan 29, 2001
Hi Dave, A purge valve allows you to purge the hot fuel that is engine your engine compartment back upstream into the fuel system, replacing it with cool fuel. This allows cool fuel to enter the flow divider during a hot start condition affording easier starts. It also serves the purpose as a fuel cutoff valve for quicker engine shutdowns. Trip Mellinger http://www.kitplaneforum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Berryhill" <dwberryhill(at)home.com> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 7:33 AM Subject: Re: RV6-List: RV-6 AFP Fuel Filter/Pump System (pics) > > > Below is a link to install pictures of Ross Briegleb and Hutch's Airflow > > Performance fuel filter and fuel pump system on their RV-6. This plane has > > some real clean installs and enhancements. > > > > http://www.kitplaneforum.com/ubb/Forum13/HTML/000005.html > > > > Mell > > Very nice! Regarding the last photo, what is a purge valve? > > Dave Berryhill > RV-0 > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 29, 2001
From: "Gary J. Strong" <gstrong(at)qwest.net>
Subject: back riveting the rudder
I'm having a problem back riveting my rv6a QB rudder. If I use the an426ad3-3.5 the plans call for, the rivet bends or doesn't make a good shop head. If I use the -3 (what appears to be the norm prior to a print change in 1997) the shop head is centered and creates well but it is too small (it fits in the hole in my handy-dandy Avery rivet gauge). Another issue is that after I dimple the skin and stiffener w/ a 3/32 dimple die set (also Avery), the rivets seem loose in the hole. Is this normal? (my rudder skin came pre-punched) Has anyone else had this problem? What rivets did most of you use in the rudder? Also, I ended up drilling about 8 of them out because I didn't like the head and replaced them w/ oo-rivets. Problem was after I back-riveted them a few of the holes on the stiffener have a small crack right where it contacts the pounded rivet head. I'm to the point of trashing the rudder and starting over again w/ new skin and stiffeners. Should I have cut the rivets between -3 and -3.5? Could my dimple die be somehow made incorrectly and making the holes too large? ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Tim Lewis" <timrv6a(at)earthlink.net>
Date: Jan 30, 2001
Subject: Re: back riveting the rudder
On 29 Jan 2001, at 18:52, Gary J. Strong wrote: > > I'm having a problem back riveting my rv6a QB rudder. If I use the > an426ad3-3.5 the plans call for, the rivet bends or doesn't make a > good shop head. If I use the -3 (what appears to be the norm prior to > a print change in 1997) the shop head is centered and creates well but > it is too small (it fits in the hole in my handy-dandy Avery rivet > gauge). This sounds like a matter of technique rather than a matter of rivet length. If the -3 won't fill the hole the -3.5 is the one to use. (I know that's not fun to hear). Ways to reduce the number of rivets that bend over: - Hold the rivet gun absolutely perpendicular to the sheet metal, and keep the rivet gun centered over the rivet - Feather in the trigger just a tad (assuming you have a feather trigger rivet gun) rather than jerking the trigger all at once - Apply plenty of pressure so the gun doesn't dance around while riveting - Try different pressure settings. Too little pressure increases the likelihood of bending because it takes too long to hammer the rivet. Way too much pressure causes the gun to get out of control, increasing the likelihood of damage to the metal. - Practice Practice Practice > Another issue is that after I dimple the skin and stiffener > w/ a 3/32 dimple die set (also Avery), the rivets seem loose in the > hole. Is this normal? (my rudder skin came pre-punched) > Yes. Rivet tape (Scotch brand low adhesive tape from Avery or Home Depot) helps stabilize the rivets while you move the piece around in the shop. > Problem was > after I back-riveted them a few of the holes on the stiffener have a > small crack right where it contacts the pounded rivet head. > I'm to the point of trashing the rudder and starting over again w/ new > skin and stiffeners. That sounds a little severe. How about just replacing the problem stiffeners? I'd suggest you finish up the rudder (which will give you lots of riveting practice) and then decide if you really need to start over. The practice will be good even if you find you are not satisfied with the final result. > Should I have cut the rivets between -3 and > -3.5? In my experience it's more a technique thing than a need for a -3.25 rivet. Hang in there! Riveting is NOT something that comes easily, but you'll find you get better and better with practice. I still ruined rivets occasionally until the last one was in and I was .... DONE. Tim ****** Tim Lewis -- Springfield VA RV-6A N47TD - First Flight 18 Dec 99 http://www.geocities.com/timrv6a ****** ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Joelmede(at)cs.com
Date: Jan 31, 2001
Subject: Re: back riveting the rudder
There are two other thing to try when riveting thin dimpled skings. When you match drill the skins try using a 41 dirll rather than the 40. When the skin is dimpled the finshed hole will be closer to the correct size. When a rivet is louse in the hole prior to riveting you can tighten it by using the rivet squeezer. Before placing the rivet in the hole use the squeezer to pre-squeeze the rivet. You will find it doesn't take much pressure to widen the rivet body to the point where it is tight in the hole. This is a standard A&P trick used when a repaired rivet hole has been oversized during the drill out Good luck Joel RV9 900124 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 01, 2001
From: Normanjd(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 01/31/01
Another factor in the quality of you riveting is the brand of dimple dies. I use Cleveland dies - they are very accurate and produce excellent dimples when you use a number 41 drill. Once you try Cleveland dies and compare the resulting dimple to other dies, you will not use the other dies any more. The dimples are crisper around the edge. Put a flush rivet in the dimple and examine it under a magnifying glass. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Mell" <kitplane(at)tradezone.com>
Subject: RV Panel layout and center console (pics)
Date: Feb 07, 2001
Got some shots of a great RV panel layout this weekend. It is well thought out and has lot's of goodies. The Skyforce is mounted in a great location. Also, the layout of the center console is worthy of note. If you are thinking about how to lay out your circuit breakers there is a good shot of that too. :) Here is the link to the photos: http://www.kitplaneforum.com/ubb/Forum13/HTML/000007.html Or just go to the RV section on the kitplanefourm.com Mell ________________________________________________________________________________
From: windsaloft(at)rmisp.com (Terri Watson)
Subject: Henry Gorgas Feb Class - short report
Date: Feb 11, 2001
New to this list, new to building. After too many years of watching everyone else build RV's, and getting to fly them all, am taking them up on their offers of local expertise, advice, and help. Still, felt overwhelmed at just getting going, and as a woman, intimidated by the intense array of tools and terms absolutely new to me. Maybe gender doesn't have anything to do with it, but, like any newbie, taking the first step has been a long time coming due to lack of confidence. Took a pilgrammage to mecca -- uh, I mean Van's -- to pick up my emp kit, see the factory, see if I could see a bunch of quickbuilds and planes and pieces and parts --- had a great tour which greatly reduced my anxiety -- it really is just a bunch of little pieces and one step at a time. Then, went to Henry Gorgas' for my two day intro class on how to stick the pieces together without destroying them, and to even make them look nice. I am happy to report that I made lots of mistakes on the practice exercises so I don't have to make them on my plane. Well, at least THOSE mistakes..... Had a great time, Henry is adamant that you learn enough to confidently get going, has a strong desire to make you good and to make sure that you get what you need out of the workshop, as well as what he thinks you need to learn. Could not have asked for more and better, and left there absolutely confident that I could get going and do okay. Highly recommend his workshop, will answer individual queries if desired. Henry's number: 1-503-472-5187. Workshops 2 days, $270, bring your own lunch, he'll bury you in coffee, sodas, and cookies. Terri Watson RV-6 Empennage inventoried and in the shop, collecting tools Lander, Wyoming ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 11, 2001
From: Elbie(at)aol.com (by way of Matt Dralle 925-606-1001 <dralle(at)matronics.com>)
Subject: Announcement
2/9/2001 Fellow Pilots and Builders: EM aviation is pleased to announce that the RiteAngle III Angle of Attack system is in production. I know this has been a long, long wait for some of you, however I will not sell a system that is not up to my standards. The long delay was partially caused by the total new design required after the RiteAngle 2000 system was terminated. The remainder of the delay was insuring the system met all our requirements such as both hot and cold environment testing. The first production group of systems off the line are being again extensively tested for approximately 2 weeks before we deliver any systems to insure there are no "bugs" appearing. When all production testing is accomplished I will ship according to who has sent in the order form via fax or US mail. (Again, DO NOT send your credit card number via e-mail! I DO NOT have a secure e-mail line.) If you want a spot in line for early delivery you can request this via e-mail, and mail your check or CC number. At present time I estimate 4- 10 weeks before your delivery, depending on when I receive your payment. To those of you who have been in correspondence with me for the last year, thanks for your belief in EM aviation's product, and soon you will have a product in your hands. I honor my correspondence of the quoted price. Current price $295 + mount & options see web site for information. www.riteangle.com Elbie Mendenhall President EM Aviation, LLC P NE Prairie Rd Brush Prairie WA 98606 360-260-0772 www.riteangle.com ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 16, 2001
Subject: Re: Henry Gorgas Feb Class - short report
From: Tedd McHenry <tedd(at)telus.net>
Terri: I'm just a few hours ahead of you (after many years of being a wannabe). You're right, it's just a bunch of small jobs that you tackle one at a time. I'm about 1/3 through my empennage (I think), and getting more excited about it every day. Hope to see you at a fly-in one day. Tedd McHenry Surrey, BC, Canada ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Mell" <kitplane(at)tradezone.com>
Subject: Nose Wheel Fairing
Date: Feb 27, 2001
Hey, Here are some shots of a real cool RV6 nosewheel fairing I saw on Briegleb's RV-6. http://kitairplaneforum.com/gal/rbrv6/nosefair.html Cya, Mell ________________________________________________________________________________
From: RJCLIFF77(at)aol.com
Date: Mar 02, 2001
Subject: Re: Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting]
Hi, Just a quick question: I'm not sure how to ask a question on the RV List. Could you tell me the procedure to access it? Thanks, Russ Clifford ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Ross Mickey" <rmickey(at)ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting]
Date: Mar 02, 2001
You just did... Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: <RJCLIFF77(at)aol.com> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 12:29 PM Subject: Re: RV6-List: Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] > > Hi, > > Just a quick question: I'm not sure how to ask a question on the RV List. > Could you tell me the procedure to access it? > > Thanks, > > Russ Clifford > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Mar 03, 2001
From: Michael Hartmann <hartmann(at)sound.net>
Subject: Re: Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly
Posting] > >Hi, > >Just a quick question: I'm not sure how to ask a question on the RV List. >Could you tell me the procedure to access it? Sure! First, to be sure you get your answer, subscribe to the list by going to: http://www.matronics.com/subscribe and subscribe to the list(s) you are interested in. Then, post your question to the list by addressing it to: rvlist(at)matronics.com You'll get your answer via the list mail. Unless you question is very unique, you should check the archives first. The address is linked from the matronics.com page. It is very annoying, and considered bad form, to ask a question that has been answered thousands of times. Questions about which primer to use seem especially taboo. Hope this helps - Mike hartmann(at)sound.net ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Russ Clifford" <russ_clifford(at)msn.com>
Subject: archive question
Date: Mar 03, 2001
For those who answered my question about how access the list, I appreciate your help! . I looked at the archives and there is a search engine. I typed in "corrosion protection" and it came back with 0 entries. Was that a bad topic???? Could you give me an example of 3-4 topics that can be searched? I think that would clear up my unfamiliarity. Thank you. Russ Clifford Laguna Niguel, CA RV9 soon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Hartmann" <hartmann(at)sound.net> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 11:28 PM Subject: Re: RV6-List: Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] > > > > >Hi, > > > >Just a quick question: I'm not sure how to ask a question on the RV List. > >Could you tell me the procedure to access it? > > > Sure! First, to be sure you get your answer, subscribe to the list by > going to: > > http://www.matronics.com/subscribe > > and subscribe to the list(s) you are interested in. > > Then, post your question to the list by addressing it to: > > rvlist(at)matronics.com > > You'll get your answer via the list mail. Unless you question is very > unique, you should check the archives first. The address is linked from > the matronics.com page. It is very annoying, and considered bad form, to > ask a question that has been answered thousands of times. Questions about > which primer to use seem especially taboo. > > Hope this helps > > - Mike > hartmann(at)sound.net > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Ross" <rmickey(at)ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: archive question
Date: Mar 03, 2001
Try different combinations like "corrosion & protection" or if you want to get about a zillion hits try "primer" Ross > For those who answered my question about how access the list, I appreciate > your help! . I looked at the archives and there is a search engine. I > typed in "corrosion protection" and it came back with 0 entries. Was that a > bad topic???? Could you give me an example of 3-4 topics that can be > searched? I think that would clear up my unfamiliarity. Thank you. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Dennis Trusty" <dtrusty(at)iname.com>
Subject: Re: archive question
Date: Mar 03, 2001
Try something related to corrosion control, like primer or just plain old corrosion. Dennis ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Jerry2DT(at)aol.com
Date: Mar 03, 2001
Subject: RV6 Rear Top Skin
Sorry if this question has been asked dozens of times, but didn't find it in the archives. Anyway, I'm working on the r. top fuse skin and notice Van's says you can either drill the bulkheads first then match drill the skin, or mark the skin from the inside after strapping it down. Any thoughts from you experienced builders out there? Orndorff's video only shows the latter method, but seems to me you could get more accuracy by drilling the bulkheads first. Thanx all.. Jerry Cochran ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Heinrich Gerhardt" <hgerhardt(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: RV6 Rear Top Skin
Date: Mar 03, 2001
Drill the bulkheads and longerons first and backdrill the skin after you strap it down. You need a snake drill to do some of the holes. I did that with all my skins and it worked out great. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jerry2DT(at)aol.com Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 12:25 PM Subject: RV6-List: RV6 Rear Top Skin Sorry if this question has been asked dozens of times, but didn't find it in the archives. Anyway, I'm working on the r. top fuse skin and notice Van's says you can either drill the bulkheads first then match drill the skin, or mark the skin from the inside after strapping it down. Any thoughts from you experienced builders out there? Orndorff's video only shows the latter method, but seems to me you could get more accuracy by drilling the bulkheads first. Thanx all.. Jerry Cochran ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "jayeandscott" <jayeandscott(at)home.com>
Subject: Re: RV6 Rear Top Skin
Date: Mar 04, 2001
I agree- because of the many tabs of varying length rather than the continuous flange found on ribs, it's better to predrill the tabs to ensure proper edge distance then backdrill the skin. I used a 12" No.40 drill and was pleased with the results. ----- Original Message ----- From: Heinrich Gerhardt <hgerhardt(at)earthlink.net> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 7:06 PM Subject: RE: RV6-List: RV6 Rear Top Skin > > Drill the bulkheads and longerons first and backdrill the skin after you > strap it down. You need a snake drill to do some of the holes. I did that > with all my skins and it worked out great. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jerry2DT(at)aol.com > Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 12:25 PM > To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: RV6-List: RV6 Rear Top Skin > > > Sorry if this question has been asked dozens of times, but didn't find it in > the archives. Anyway, I'm working on the r. top fuse skin and notice Van's > says you can either drill the bulkheads first then match drill the skin, or > mark the skin from the inside after strapping it down. Any thoughts from you > experienced builders out there? Orndorff's video only shows the latter > method, but seems to me you could get more accuracy by drilling the > bulkheads > first. > > Thanx all.. > > Jerry Cochran > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "stephen grossman" <flyboy2(at)amexol.net>
Subject: rv6a/9a cad models
Date: Mar 05, 2001
i'm designing a plane at home that will use, with van's permisson, the 6a/9a canopy, cowling, and other firewall forward parts. i'm designing in solidworks and am looking for cad models of the above. thanks steve grossman ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Christopher John Armstrong" <Tophera(at)centurytel.net>
Subject: Re: rv6a/9a cad models
Date: Mar 06, 2001
> i'm designing a plane at home that will use, with van's permisson, the 6a/9a > canopy, cowling, and other firewall forward parts. i'm designing in > solidworks and am looking for cad models of the above. thanks > > steve grossman I have a solidworks model of the firewall and a modified engine mount if it would help. Chris ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Mar 11, 2001
From: "Dennis /Fran Flamini" <flamini2(at)home.com> (by way of Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>)
Subject: RV-6 N196SM air to air SW of Chicago 3-11-01
ftp://ftp.matronics.com/pub/Public/flamini(at)home.com/p3110002.jpg ftp://ftp.matronics.com/pub/Public/flamini(at)home.com/p3110004.jpg Dennis and Fran ________________________________________________________________________________
From: don522(at)webtv.net (Don McCallister)
Date: Mar 14, 2001
Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 03/11/01
Matt, I have moved from Eugene Oregon to Del Norte, Colorado - I had no problem retriving the RV digest in Eugene last fall , now that I have subscribed again I have one msg and get a note that the sender is having a technical problem and try later!!! This has been three days now and either webtv.net cannot give me the digest. ??? ________________________________________________________________________________
From: don522(at)webtv.net (Don McCallister)
Date: Mar 14, 2001
Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 03/11/01
How do I get this digest message?? ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Heinrich Gerhardt" <hgerhardt(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: brakes for RV-6
Date: Mar 17, 2001
I'm the fourth owner of an uncompleted RV-6. Somewhere along the years, the brakes got lost. A friend of mine recommended I look at Matco instead of Cleveland, so I e-mailed Matco and got a response that I consider the dual-caliper or the triple-piston caliper for my plane. Having no experience with tail-dragger RV-6's, how much braking force is needed or even wanted? Is the stock Cleveland setup more than adequate, or would more brake capacity be nice? ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Shirley Harding" <shirleyh(at)starwon.com.au>
Subject: Aileron mount brackets
Date: Mar 21, 2001
Listers, I have been off list for a while, but still building! I'm puzzled by the RV6 QB instructions re aileron mount brackets W-413 and W-414. Manual page Q7-1 tells me to drill them to the rear spar - but there is no further instruction about when to rivet them on. Having been caught before while building my standard kit tail, where the instructions told me to leave the elevator horns clecoed "for now" but never instructed me to rivet them - I just wondered is there any reason not to go ahead and rivet the aileron brackets? Thanks Shirley Harding Perth, Western Australia RV6 QB wings ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Dennis Trusty" <dtrusty(at)iname.com>
Subject: Fuel Filter for O-360 Fuel Injection
Date: Mar 27, 2001
I am trying to find a source for fuel filters. I need a filter that filters to 120 microns and flows at 20 gph. Anyone have a source? Would appreciate Manufacturer/Model Number if you do. Thanks, Dennis ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Don Mack" <don(at)dmack.net>
Subject: Re: Fuel Filter for O-360 Fuel Injection
Date: Mar 27, 2001
Look at http://www.airflowperformance.com/airframe.htm Don Mack RV-6A finishing ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Trusty" <dtrusty(at)iname.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 10:43 PM Subject: RV6-List: Fuel Filter for O-360 Fuel Injection > > I am trying to find a source for fuel filters. I need a filter that > filters to 120 microns and flows at 20 gph. > > Anyone have a source? Would appreciate Manufacturer/Model Number if you > do. > > Thanks, > Dennis > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: GPAUL18(at)aol.com
Date: Mar 30, 2001
Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 03/06/01
Are there any RV builders/flyers that have used the ICS Plus radio that Wagaero sells. I would appreciate any feedback on this unit. Greg ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Heinrich Gerhardt" <hgerhardt(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: seal on RV-6 sliding canopy
Date: Mar 29, 2001
Has anyone figured out an elegant way to seal the side skirts of a sliding canopy RV-6? I'm thinking about a rubber-felt weatherstrip (like at the base of a side window in a car), mounted on the side of the slider rail contacting the skirt on the inside. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "jayeandscott" <jayeandscott(at)home.com>
Subject: Re: seal on RV-6 sliding canopy
Date: Mar 29, 2001
On my -6 I'll be trying out the thin plastic strip that folds down the middle to form a "V" shape. One side is sticky. The advantage appears to be a pressure so light that when the canopy is run back and forth no distress to the paint; yet, when the air tries to leak in, it forces the springy, thin stand-up part of the V to press against the fuselage. It's sold in short lengths for sealing exterior doors and windows. ----- Original Message ----- From: Heinrich Gerhardt <hgerhardt(at)earthlink.net> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 10:31 PM Subject: RV6-List: seal on RV-6 sliding canopy > > Has anyone figured out an elegant way to seal the side skirts of a sliding > canopy RV-6? I'm thinking about a rubber-felt weatherstrip (like at the > base of a side window in a car), mounted on the side of the slider rail > contacting the skirt on the inside. > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Tim Lewis" <timrv6a(at)earthlink.net>
Date: Apr 01, 2001
Subject: Re: seal on RV-6 sliding canopy
> Has anyone figured out an elegant way to seal the side skirts of a > sliding canopy RV-6? I'm thinking about a rubber-felt weatherstrip > (like at the base of a side window in a car), mounted on the side of > the slider rail contacting the skirt on the inside. There's an old RVator article that describes the use of a bicycle inner tube, split open and attached to the slider rail. You can find the article in "16 Years of the RVator." I used a racing inner tube, and it worked pretty well. I attached it to the slider rail with carpet tape, which is very sticky and double sided. Dramatic reduction in the amount of air that leaks out of the side of the canopy. Tim ****** Tim Lewis -- Springfield VA RV-6A N47TD - First Flight 18 Dec 99 http://www.geocities.com/timrv6a ****** ________________________________________________________________________________
From: MackPerry(at)aol.com
Date: Apr 02, 2001
Subject: Please remove me from the list for RV 6
Please remove me from the list for RV 6. My address is mackperry(at)aol.com Thank you ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Bob Pretzsch" <rfpod@se-tel.com>
Subject: Re: seal on RV-6 sliding canopy
Date: Apr 02, 2001
-----Original Message----- From: Tim Lewis <timrv6a(at)earthlink.net> Date: Sunday, April 01, 2001 3:57 PM Subject: Re: RV6-List: seal on RV-6 sliding canopy > >> Has anyone figured out an elegant way to seal the side skirts of a >> sliding canopy RV-6? I'm thinking about a rubber-felt weatherstrip >> (like at the base of a side window in a car), mounted on the side of >> the slider rail contacting the skirt on the inside. > >I did not trim the skirt and instead let it lip over onto the fuselage and as I fiberglassed the windscreen a slot was left for the skirt to slide into. This additional fiberglassing area then was flared out so an uninterrupted blending to the fuselage. Having done so this tucks the skirt into the slot and with the overlap to the fuselage gives a really tight seal ( I have no air leaks nor has a friend who has also done this). I also added tape so as not to scratch the paint in the contact area. Bob Pretzsch N399BP 70+ hrs RV6A > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Apr 02, 2001
Subject: new guy
From: Scott and Pam Trask <PTrask(at)diisd.org>
I'm looking at getting a RV6/7. What kind of runway does a guy need? 1000 feet enough? Is there anyone that lives close to me who would mind if I take a look at your project? Scott Trask Iron Mountain MI 49801 (906) 779 9157 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: DanJE(at)aol.com
Date: Apr 03, 2001
Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 04/02/01
SHORT RUNWAY IN MICHIGAN <<>> Scott: 1000 foot runway... well...all of Michigan ain't very high in alittude... so, I'd say that's plenty -- IF you've got no trees, hills, houses, tall buildings, or power lines across the departure end of the runway for at least another 2000 feet or so! Van likes to say numbers on the order of 500' for takeoff, 300' for landing, (maybe its the other way around?) with typical RV-3,4,6,8,9 (and now the new RV-7). And, we've all seen his video showing a 300' takeoff -- flaps down, but I'm not sure if thats half flaps or full flaps. Flaps down does decrease ground roll at the expense of immediate climb performance, just in case you hadn't considered that. But, the plane does accelerate so quickly you could retract flaps and pick up a few knots, then climb much better with negligible increase in distance -- What I'm saying is, a takeoff with flaps down more than makes up for the decreased climb IF its a short runway you have to contend with! I fly the RV-6, with 180 hp Lycoming, and Constant speed prop. Of course, a CS prop does little for you when the goal is to extract max horsepower at 2700 rpm on the takeoff roll unless you're comparing it with a fixed cruise prop that cant get full rpm on takeoff! Either way, if you get the rpm somehow, the whole family of Van's aircaft can get airborne even with 2 people and full fuel, in about 500 feet at sea level, and about 800-1000 feet roll at my altitude of about 3000' MSL. I'd suppose a mountain takeoff at Colorado Springs 7200' or higher at Eagle, Telluride, or some place like that might take a healthy toll on your takeoff roll -- especially in the hot summer! So, worse case for Michigan on a hot summer day... You'd be looking at a normal takeoff of 800' roll, and you might horse it off with flaps down in 500 feet. Heavy weight. And don't expect a fantastic climb until you accelerate to 120 to 140 mph. But after that, its STILL a fantastic Van's aircraft, built for performance! You WON'T be disappointed! (They don't call it the RV grin for nothing!). I'll soon be building an RV-8 to replace my RV-6. I've got a county road next to my house, but it has 'dips' in it (they don't believe in building bridges over all the dry creek beds here in Nevada) -- so I'm looking for a nice section of the road with at least 600 feet between 'dips' -- to take off from on my first flight to get it over to the airport! I want to build my plane with the wings on at home. And, don't have a method to trailer it to the airport with wings on! RV-6 TRAILER IDEA That reminds me.... Has anyone thought of a method to transport an RV-6 over the highway without taking the wings off? I'm contemplating building a special low trailer, to put the plane on sideways, then TIP the plane on its nose to raise the tail up high, with some sort of brace to the tailwheel to keep it there. Then, I'd tow it down the highway sideways (long tongue on trailer so the wing doesnt hit the back of the car!). Any thoughts on this idea? I don't have any vertical obstructions between the airport and my house, and I'd do this at 0500 on a Sunday morning to avoid too many cars on the highway! Dan RV-6 Flying ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Jeff Orear" <jorear(at)mari.net>
Subject: Re: new guy
Date: Apr 03, 2001
Scott: Not sure if you received my off-list message, so I will attempt over the list. (Sorry Guys). I would be happy to have you come down and have a look at my 6A project. Send me an email off list if you are interested. jorear(at)mari.net Regards, Jeff Orear RV6A Peshtigo, WI -----Original Message----- From: Scott and Pam Trask <PTrask(at)diisd.org> Date: Monday, April 02, 2001 6:46 PM Subject: RV6-List: new guy > > I'm looking at getting a RV6/7. What kind of runway does a guy need? 1000 >feet enough? Is there anyone that lives close to me who would mind if I take >a look at your project? > Scott Trask > Iron Mountain MI > 49801 > (906) 779 9157 > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Richard McCraw" <rmccraw(at)wcvt.com>
Subject: RE: Transporting assembled airplane
Date: Apr 03, 2001
I'm sure you've considered this, but I don't think you'd want to transport the plane literally on its nose. I can't imagine the crankshaft, prop attach, etc., are stressed for this, even if much of the weight is supported elsewhere. The only way I'd consider is a cradle for the wings. Even then, I wouldn't. Again, it seems you're stressing structure in ways and directions for which it wasn't designed. Rick McCraw rmccraw(at)wcvt.com Bonanza pilot. Not a builder yet, but strongly considering an RV-7. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: DanJE(at)aol.com
Date: Apr 04, 2001
Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 04/03/01
<<>> Well... Originally I hadn't planned on removing the prop or cowl. But, lately I've done some drawings and it appears I should remove both of them, and perhaps support some of the weight via the engine mounts or perhaps even the engine itself after doing so. But the basic weight was going to be on the main gear, just tipped forward. And there shouldn't be any weight on the nose (engine, prop, etc), because the plane would being kept from tipping any further via a couple of steel rods in an "A" shape connected to the tailwheel structure. Imagine a triangle of support like this: main gear -- tail wheel-- steel rods down to the trailer. The main gear wheels would be strapped or locked into place on the trailer, also. Wish I could include a drawing here on this email message. The idea is to roll the plane onto the trailer from the side of the trailer. The main gear would roll into a trough, and then I'd clamp the axels down to the trailer. Then, with the help of a friend (or non-volunteer wife), I'd attach the two steel rods to the tail wheel structure somehow, and tip the plane up. The rods would be just the right length to attach to the side of the trailer, in a large "A" (seen from the side which is the back end of the airplane now.) One rod would do it, but the plane might rock sideways (fore and aft on the trailer) as the trailer accelerated and decelerated on the highway. So, I figured two in an A shape would stablize it. The idea of the tip-up is to narrow the plane down to single lane width (well, close enough) so it wouldn't hit road signs or cars going the other way on the highway! A cradle for the wings -- I thought about that, as an additional stabilization, and rejected -- leading edge of wings don't really have much support inside to hold airplane weight -- the nose ribs really just keep the leading edge 'out there' in the right place in the windstream in flight! Not much else! But... That does give me an idea to provide additional support at the TIE-DOWN rings which are attached directly to the much stronger wing spar. The wing spar is not really made for fore-aft loads which this would be if tipped up, but... better than using the leading edge for support! I've transported planes simply strapped down to a flat bed truck! But, the wings sticking out sure gave the other traffic a fit! I once used a car-carrier trailer I rented from Uhaul, and put a 500+ pound Sonerai II on it... The wings were folded back and pinned, however. But the darn trailer weighed about 4 times the airplane weight, and my tiny little Ford Fiesta overheated and burned up its brakes just going up and down one hill into the San Fernando Valley coming from Oxnard! I towed it to Garden Grove, where I rebuilt the plane. When it was ready to fly, I developed a simple tow bar that attached to the tail wheel structure, turned the plane around, and towed it 70mph on its OWN wheels out to Chino Airport where it did its first flight! I took the wheel pants off for that one, but later got so bold I never took 'em off again. John Monnett knew how to design an airplane for highway towing backwards! Dan ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Steve Sampson" <steve(at)lbho.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Re: new guy
Date: Apr 04, 2001
Scott - your message interests me because I fly a Supercub out of a 1000' grass strip and am shortly planning to order an RV9 kit. I would order a -7 except for the 1000'. Now I know nothing about building but do know a little about operating off a short dirt strip. The thing that I have learned is that lots of people will talk about what they can do with their aircraft but getting them to do it is another thing. An example was a guy with an Aviat Husky - a short field plane like the S'cub. He could land in 300'....my strip would be 'no problem'. He arrived overhead, circled round a bit and radioed he would go to the nearest licensed airfield. In the later discussion his issues were 1) A low fence on approach - true, 2) 40' trees at the end - true, 3) the wind was not directly down but cross - true. (In other words a typical short strip! On the particular day the grass was dry.) Now in my S'cub I go in and out several times most weeks, usually land 75' beyond the fence and use another 300' to dissipate the energy - I approach around 45mph. It works but its very easy to get wrong and use a lot more. Saturday I had my first ride in an RV6. The owner / builder made no claims to be a great pilot - he had about 400hrs on this aircraft - new I was interested in its ability to land short but landed as he was comfortable. Of the 2000' available he used at a guess 1100'. It was an in to wind runway. My point is that there is a lot of talk but if all you have is 1000' you have to do it right on the good days and the bad. When you are feeling A1 and when you are less than perfect. Doing it wrong once is once too many times. If you need 1050' you will have a bent aeroplane. If you use 975' you will have a severely stressed heart! Now I expect there will be a wall of protest to this mail. I know Van's own strip is short. I am sure many will say they neeed nothing like 1000', and I am sure its true. I wonder how many regularly use a 1000' with a brick wall at the end and perhaps have to accept a 5knot tailwind or 15/20 knots gusting across - on a hot day with wet grass? Some I am sure CAN do it safely. For my part, later this month i am going to fly an RV9 at the factory then (subject to my reaction) order. I will try to also fly a -7 but will take LOTS of convincing. Good luck! Steve. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott and Pam Trask" <PTrask(at)diisd.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 12:37 AM Subject: RV6-List: new guy > > I'm looking at getting a RV6/7. What kind of runway does a guy need? 1000 > feet enough? Is there anyone that lives close to me who would mind if I take > a look at your project? > Scott Trask > Iron Mountain MI > 49801 > (906) 779 9157 > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "jayeandscott" <jayeandscott(at)home.com>
Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 04/03/01
Date: Apr 04, 2001
Brings to mind pictures of WW2 hangars here in Canada so full of Tiger Moths that they stood them on their noses, row upon row. Didn't seem to hurt them as they all went flying every day. However, they weren't transported in this attitude and their landing gear was heavier and braced in multiple directions. ----- Original Message ----- From: <DanJE(at)aol.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 1:08 AM Subject: RV6-List: Re: RV6-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 04/03/01 > > <<>> > > Well... Originally I hadn't planned on removing the prop or cowl. But, > lately I've done some drawings and it appears I should remove both of them, > and perhaps support some of the weight via the engine mounts or perhaps even > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "jayeandscott" <jayeandscott(at)home.com>
Subject: Re: new guy
Date: Apr 04, 2001
I learned to fly-right up through multi-IFR- at a strip considerably shorter than 2000 feet with rising terrain and trees at the usual into-wind departure end. It was at 19'asl and I wasn't experienced enough to notice any difference. Now it looks quite short, thank you. I don't have much time in RV's but have noticed that they seem to sink quickly below about 70mph yet have an enormous ground cushion that they won't three-point through till 50 or less. This leads to either a high-power, low airspeed approach or a long float in ground effect. I'm guessing it's a characteristic of the short-span, wide-chord RV wing. Sock it to me! ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Sampson <steve(at)lbho.freeserve.co.uk> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 3:29 AM Subject: Re: RV6-List: new guy > > Scott - your message interests me because I fly a Supercub out of a 1000' > grass strip and am shortly planning to order an RV9 kit. I would order a -7 > except for the 1000'. Now I know nothing about building but do know a little > about operating off a short dirt strip. > > The thing that I have learned is that lots of people will talk about what > they can do with their aircraft but getting them to do it is another thing. > An example was a guy with an Aviat Husky - a short field plane like the > S'cub. He could land in 300'....my strip would be 'no problem'. He arrived > overhead, circled round a bit and radioed he would go to the nearest > licensed airfield. In the later discussion his issues were 1) A low fence on > approach - true, 2) 40' trees at the end - true, 3) the wind was not > directly down but cross - true. (In other words a typical short strip! On > the particular day the grass was dry.) Now in my S'cub I go in and out > several times most weeks, usually land 75' beyond the fence and use another > 300' to dissipate the energy - I approach around 45mph. It works but its > very easy to get wrong and use a lot more. > > Saturday I had my first ride in an RV6. The owner / builder made no claims > to be a great pilot - he had about 400hrs on this aircraft - new I was > interested in its ability to land short but landed as he was comfortable. Of > the 2000' available he used at a guess 1100'. It was an in to wind runway. > > My point is that there is a lot of talk but if all you have is 1000' you > have to do it right on the good days and the bad. When you are feeling A1 > and when you are less than perfect. Doing it wrong once is once too many > times. If you need 1050' you will have a bent aeroplane. If you use 975' > you will have a severely stressed heart! > > Now I expect there will be a wall of protest to this mail. I know Van's own > strip is short. I am sure many will say they neeed nothing like 1000', and I > am sure its true. I wonder how many regularly use a 1000' with a brick wall > at the end and perhaps have to accept a 5knot tailwind or 15/20 knots > gusting across - on a hot day with wet grass? Some I am sure CAN do it > safely. > > For my part, later this month i am going to fly an RV9 at the factory then > (subject to my reaction) order. I will try to also fly a -7 but will take > LOTS of convincing. > > Good luck! Steve. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Scott and Pam Trask" <PTrask(at)diisd.org> > To: "RV6" > Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 12:37 AM > Subject: RV6-List: new guy > > > > > > I'm looking at getting a RV6/7. What kind of runway does a guy need? 1000 > > feet enough? Is there anyone that lives close to me who would mind if I > take > > a look at your project? > > Scott Trask > > Iron Mountain MI > > 49801 > > (906) 779 9157 > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Apr 04, 2001
Subject: Re: new guy
From: Scott and Pam Trask <PTrask(at)diisd.org>
on 4/4/01 5:29 AM, Steve Sampson at steve(at)lbho.freeserve.co.uk wrote: > > Scott - your message interests me because I fly a Supercub out of a 1000' > grass strip and am shortly planning to order an RV9 kit. I would order a -7 > except for the 1000'. Now I know nothing about building but do know a little > about operating off a short dirt strip. > > The thing that I have learned is that lots of people will talk about what > they can do with their aircraft but getting them to do it is another thing. > An example was a guy with an Aviat Husky - a short field plane like the > S'cub. He could land in 300'....my strip would be 'no problem'. He arrived > overhead, circled round a bit and radioed he would go to the nearest > licensed airfield. In the later discussion his issues were 1) A low fence on > approach - true, 2) 40' trees at the end - true, 3) the wind was not > directly down but cross - true. (In other words a typical short strip! On > the particular day the grass was dry.) Now in my S'cub I go in and out > several times most weeks, usually land 75' beyond the fence and use another > 300' to dissipate the energy - I approach around 45mph. It works but its > very easy to get wrong and use a lot more. > > Saturday I had my first ride in an RV6. The owner / builder made no claims > to be a great pilot - he had about 400hrs on this aircraft - new I was > interested in its ability to land short but landed as he was comfortable. Of > the 2000' available he used at a guess 1100'. It was an in to wind runway. > > My point is that there is a lot of talk but if all you have is 1000' you > have to do it right on the good days and the bad. When you are feeling A1 > and when you are less than perfect. Doing it wrong once is once too many > times. If you need 1050' you will have a bent aeroplane. If you use 975' > you will have a severely stressed heart! > > Now I expect there will be a wall of protest to this mail. I know Van's own > strip is short. I am sure many will say they neeed nothing like 1000', and I > am sure its true. I wonder how many regularly use a 1000' with a brick wall > at the end and perhaps have to accept a 5knot tailwind or 15/20 knots > gusting across - on a hot day with wet grass? Some I am sure CAN do it > safely. > > For my part, later this month i am going to fly an RV9 at the factory then > (subject to my reaction) order. I will try to also fly a -7 but will take > LOTS of convincing. > > Good luck! Steve. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Scott and Pam Trask" <PTrask(at)diisd.org> > To: "RV6" > Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 12:37 AM > Subject: RV6-List: new guy > > >> >> I'm looking at getting a RV6/7. What kind of runway does a guy need? 1000 >> feet enough? Is there anyone that lives close to me who would mind if I > take >> a look at your project? >> Scott Trask >> Iron Mountain MI >> 49801 >> (906) 779 9157 >> >> > > > > Hi Steve Thanks for your response. Sounds like you have a lot of fun flying as well. I've gotten a number of responses off-list as well. I've heard stories of 1000 feet being enough roam but I figured that would be with ideal conditions with some hours under your belt. I do have the land to extend the runway, but my father used to own the property and he still lives there (he is 76). He had years ago planted trees and if I would cut them down it would hurt his feelings. Some day I'll have a nice long strip. Then I'll have to have a fly-in. I fly a Kolb Twinstar MK111 1000 flight hrs. I built it and completed it in 1989. I built my house attached to the hanger so I'm spoiled. Next plane I don't want to have to drive to an airport to fly it. I wouldn't mind doing that for awhile. I like the RVs so you can see that it's not an easy decision for me. Scott Trask Iron Mountain MI ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Apr 06, 2001
From: dplute <dplute(at)onemain.com>
Subject: CHT/EGT probes:
Does anyone out there know if the Westech cht probe # 713-5w or the egt probe #713-2dwk will work with Vans gauges? Aircraft Spruce has not answered my inquiry. thanks Doyal R. Plute rv-6a n# 4dp builder ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Apr 06, 2001
From: "mdelano" <mdelano(at)qwest.net>
Subject: Re: CHT/EGT probes:
Check out Aeroelectric and omega.com. Omaga has a huge amount of information on temp measurement. I have made my own CHT probes for a fraction of the cost Van wants. Westac probes will work just make sure you get type K for CHT. I do not know what Vans EGT requires. Alcor gages use a type J.I can provide more info on fabricating your own probes if you are interested Mark Delano 6a finish EAA Tech Coun. dplute wrote: > > Does anyone out there know if the Westech cht probe # 713-5w or the egt > probe #713-2dwk will work with Vans gauges? Aircraft Spruce has not > answered my inquiry. > thanks > Doyal R. Plute rv-6a n# 4dp builder > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Apr 08, 2001
From: Robert Blum <bob(at)theblums.net>
Subject: Discovery Channel RV8 series
The east coast feed of discovery channel is broadcasting a 13 week series on building an RV-8. It is NOT being broadcast on the Pacific Coast feed. Did anyone tape it? can you dub a copy for me? email mailto:bob(at)theblums.net ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Lenhardt" <jtl258(at)home.com>
Subject: Re: Discovery Channel RV8 series
Date: Apr 09, 2001
Here's the URL where the broadcast schedule for the series "From the Ground Up" can be located and you can have an email reminder sent to yourself... http://wings.discovery.com/. I'd like to see this series too if anyone can tape it. It started yesterday, but espisode 1 will be re-aired today. See below: From the Ground Up - Episode 1 Take a look at the tools needed and learn some tips for getting started while the RV-8 arrives. Get a feel for space and time constraints, and an appreciation for the process. Also, visit another homebuilder already hard at work in his own garage. ---- Air Time(s) Eastern/Pacific Time: WNG Apr 8 2001 8:00 PM WNG Apr 8 2001 11:00 PM WNG Apr 9 2001 4:00 AM WNG Apr 9 2001 7:00 AM WNG Apr 9 2001 12:00 PM WNG Apr 9 2001 3:00 PM ---- John Lenhardt jtl258(at)home.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: PGLong(at)aol.com
Date: Apr 10, 2001
Subject: Re: Discovery Channel RV8 series
I sure would like to see it also, but alas, it's not in my Michigan area either. If anyone would tape the series, I would be interested if obtaining it. Pat ________________________________________________________________________________
From: romeo.victor@t-online.de (Stephan Servatius)
Subject: Re: Discovery Channel RV8 series
Date: Apr 10, 2001
Hi John, I am building a RV8 here in Germany. I am quite interested in that broadcast, but cannot afford to travel to the States to see it. Do you have any idea where I could get the tape from? Stephan Servatius romeo.victor@t-online.de John Lenhardt schrieb: > > Here's the URL where the broadcast schedule for the series "From the Ground > Up" can be located and you can have an email reminder sent to yourself... > http://wings.discovery.com/. I'd like to see this series too if anyone can > tape it. It started yesterday, but espisode 1 will be re-aired today. See > below: > > >From the Ground Up - Episode 1 > > Take a look at the tools needed and learn some tips for getting started > while the RV-8 arrives. Get a feel for space and time constraints, and an > appreciation for the process. Also, visit another homebuilder already hard > at work in his own garage. > > ---- > Air Time(s) Eastern/Pacific Time: > WNG Apr 8 2001 8:00 PM > WNG Apr 8 2001 11:00 PM > WNG Apr 9 2001 4:00 AM > WNG Apr 9 2001 7:00 AM > WNG Apr 9 2001 12:00 PM > WNG Apr 9 2001 3:00 PM > ---- > > John Lenhardt > jtl258(at)home.com > > Stephan Servatius Untere Hauptstr. 3 85461 Bockhorn Germany ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "James D. Ivey" <jim(at)iveylaw.com>
Subject: Discovery Channel RV8 series
Date: Apr 10, 2001
I don't get Discovery Wings either. I'm watching for the series to eventually be available at the Discovery Channel's online store: http://shopping.discovery.com/ They have most of their content available on tape/DVD -- eventually. Regards, Jim Ivey jim(at)iveylaw.com Oakland, California > -----Original Message----- > > I am building a RV8 here in Germany. I am quite interested in > that broadcast, > but cannot afford to travel to the States to see it. > > Do you have any idea where I could get the tape from? ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Steven DiNieri" <capsteve(at)adelphia.net>
Subject: Discovery Channel RV8 series
Date: Apr 10, 2001
I'm taping the series and will begin encoding them to QuickTime or ms media and get someone to post 'em for listers to download. The first episode was just fluff, no real content we didn't already know. Aka , what a qwikbuild kit is etc...... Steven DiNieri Niagara Falls, New York RV-6A, P28A-160 Hi John, I am building a RV8 here in Germany. I am quite interested in that broadcast, but cannot afford to travel to the States to see it. Do you have any idea where I could get the tape from? Stephan Servatius romeo.victor@t-online.de John Lenhardt schrieb: > > Here's the URL where the broadcast schedule for the series "From the Ground > Up" can be located and you can have an email reminder sent to yourself... > http://wings.discovery.com/. I'd like to see this series too if anyone can > tape it. It started yesterday, but espisode 1 will be re-aired today. See > below: > > >From the Ground Up - Episode 1 > > Take a look at the tools needed and learn some tips for getting started > while the RV-8 arrives. Get a feel for space and time constraints, and an > appreciation for the process. Also, visit another homebuilder already hard > at work in his own garage. > > ---- > Air Time(s) Eastern/Pacific Time: > WNG Apr 8 2001 8:00 PM > WNG Apr 8 2001 11:00 PM > WNG Apr 9 2001 4:00 AM > WNG Apr 9 2001 7:00 AM > WNG Apr 9 2001 12:00 PM > WNG Apr 9 2001 3:00 PM > ---- > > John Lenhardt > jtl258(at)home.com > > Stephan Servatius Untere Hauptstr. 3 85461 Bockhorn Germany ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "jginth" <jginth(at)email.msn.com>
Subject: Sun-N-Fun
Date: Apr 11, 2001
Anyone on the list that went to sun and fun and saw the new RV 7? Van's site said that they were going to try and have it there. Just wanted to know what was thought of it- Does it seam much different at all then the 6? John ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Michael D. Bender" <mbender(at)ambientdesigns.com>
Subject: Sun-N-Fun
Date: Apr 11, 2001
Hi there John, Yes, the RV-7 is/was indeed there! Very pretty. I'm sure someone on this list that has great experience with the 6 and saw the 7 at Sun N Fun can tell us both what he/she thinks! Michael :-) -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of jginth Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 6:28 PM Subject: RV6-List: Sun-N-Fun Anyone on the list that went to sun and fun and saw the new RV 7? Van's site said that they were going to try and have it there. Just wanted to know what was thought of it- Does it seam much different at all then the 6? John ________________________________________________________________________________
From: MLSRV6(at)aol.com
Date: Apr 12, 2001
Subject: Re: Sun-N-Fun
I sure like the plane, I wished that I would have waited for it ... I am too far along with my RV-6 to stop now.... ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Ross" <rmickey(at)ix.netcom.com>
Subject: RV-6 vs RV-7 was Sun-N-Fun
Date: Apr 12, 2001
>: MLSRV6(at)aol.com > I sure like the plane, I wished that I would have waited for it ... I am too > far along with my RV-6 to stop now.... Why? I stood around the 7 for a long while discussing the differences between the two with Gus at Vans. My conclusion was that I was glad I had the 6...A that is. If you are far along, the benifits of the ease of building of the 7 is not a factor. Performance wise, the 6 is just as good if not better with a 180 HP vs the 200 HP in the 7. What is it about the 7 that makes you wih you could go with it? Ross......defender of the 6....A that is ________________________________________________________________________________
From: TColeE(at)aol.com
Date: Apr 13, 2001
Subject: Sun-N-Fun"Vans Banquet"
The Banquet was fun and informative I learned the difference between a CEO and an engineer. Van was the only one that wore a tie, well sort of - you had to be there. Van talked about the 4 place. He said that the 4 place is actively under design and will be about 18 mo to 2 years out. The RV7 and RV9 got in the way and slowed down the design. That is what I got out of it. The 4 place is comming. While talking to Tom Green at the display tent about the 4 place the decision on the engine has not been made yet, Lycoming or Contintinal Just happen to have won a door prize= a Rite Angle of Attack, made some new friends. Had a lot of SUN and FUN. Terry E. Cole N468TC ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Bobpaulo(at)aol.com
Date: Apr 14, 2001
Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 04/13/01
Does anyone know the positon of the rear seats of this new four placer-facing forward or toward the rear? Bob ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Nancy Jean Burkholder" <nancyb(at)mninter.net>
Subject: Re: Westach fuel level system
Date: Apr 16, 2001
>>Any feedback on performance of Westach products? I used Westach products on an ultralight I owned back in '95. I had a dual CHT/EGT. I had no complaints about their performance. However, I wouldn't put them in my RV. That's my personal preference. I don't think I would have the confidence in them that I would have in the other aviation gages that are going to populate my panel. They were fine for my ultralight, but I will be using my RV for way more demanding missions, and for that I am willing to pay for a higher grade of instruments. nancy b. "Good people are always so sure they're right." Barbara Graham's last words Executed June 5, 1955 at San Quentin ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Apr 25, 2001
From: Doug and Kelly Snead <kellyndoug(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: tools for sale
rv9-list(at)matronics.com To any new RV builder, > I have some basic tools for sale that I bought > from Avery and from the Yard. If you would like more > information please write or call at: > > kellyndoug(at)yahoo.com > 580-233-8997 > > > Doug > Enid, OK Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Robert Attaway" <attaway(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: tools for sale
Date: Apr 25, 2001
Hey Doug, Thanks for the offer on those tools but I don't need any. But if I here of someone I will send them to you. Thanks, Robbie PS check out my web site www.attawayair.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Doug and Kelly Snead Sent: 4/25/2001 7:34:38 AM Subject: RV6-List: tools for sale -- RV6-List message posted by: Doug and Kelly Snead kellyndoug(at)yahoo.com To any new RV builder, I have some basic tools for sale that I bought from Avery and from the Yard. If you would like more information please write or call at: kellyndoug(at)yahoo.com 580-233-8997 Doug Enid, OK Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ http://www.matronics.com/order --- Robert Attaway --- attaway(at)earthlink.net --- EarthLink: It's your Internet. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: windsaloft(at)rmisp.com (Terri Watson)
Subject: scoring the angle aluminum - HS-610
Date: Apr 26, 2001
When cutting out the AA6 3/4 x 3/4 angle iron to fabricate the HS-610 for the front spar, I let the saw blade drift a bit and got a bit of a score across the flange tongue of the aluminum. It is 1-5/16" from the tip, and appears to be 1/64" deep, going all the way across. Two rivets would be outside this when fastened to the forward spar. There are a couple of other nicks and scores, mostly scotchbrite-able, from clamps, etc. I am learning lots on this educational project, and am pretty certain that I should get another aluminum angle and start again as the score above seems like it would focus stress and be the ideal fracture spot for the spar. But, I wanted to ask -- how deep is too deep for something like that? If you can't smooth it out with scotch brite, is it so deep that it will concentrate force and fracture? Is there some rule of thumb of score depth vs. bar thickness? While I am striving for perfection, I am also trying to learn when to sweat it and when to not! Thanks, feel free to reply on or off line. Terri Watson Lander, WY RV-6 to 7 fwd spar, HS ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Apr 26, 2001
Subject: Re: scoring the angle aluminum - HS-610
From: Tedd McHenry <tedd(at)vansairforce.org>
Terri: I damaged my HS610 and had to make another. It seemed like a painful choice at the time, because it was the first mistake like that I'd made. But it wasn't the last, and I'm sure there will be many more. Without looking at the part I don't want to venture an opinion. But I will say that if you feel at all uncomfortable about it you should probably redo it. It's not that big a deal in the overall scheme of things, and you'll probably feel better about it afterward. By the way, I prevented further nicks and scratches by taping strips of beer can material to the surfaces I wanted to protect each time I used a file or saw blade. It worked like a charm. You can file the flange stub right down to a few thou thick that way, and then the Scotchbrite wheel easily takes the remainder right off. Tedd McHenry Surrey, BC ________________________________________________________________________________
From: d.meloche(at)att.net
Subject: Re: scoring the angle aluminum - HS-610
Date: Apr 28, 2001
A .015" deep cut in .063" stock reduces the area in the affected section 25%. This will increase the stresses by the same factor (not including stress concentration effects). Since this part of the stabilizer is highly loaded (root end) I would replace the part. Anyway by the time you blended out the cut by a 10/1 ratio you could have made a new part. Get used to it, you'll be doing a lot more replacing by the time your done. Good luck Doug Meloche rv6 ordering finish kit > > When cutting out the AA6 3/4 x 3/4 angle iron to fabricate the HS-610 for > the front spar, I let the saw blade drift a bit and got a bit of a score > across the flange tongue of the aluminum. It is 1-5/16" from the tip, and > appears to be 1/64" deep, going all the way across. Two rivets would be > outside this when fastened to the forward spar. > > There are a couple of other nicks and scores, mostly scotchbrite-able, from > clamps, etc. > > I am learning lots on this educational project, and am pretty certain that I > should get another aluminum angle and start again as the score above seems > like it would focus stress and be the ideal fracture spot for the spar. > But, I wanted to ask -- how deep is too deep for something like that? If > you can't smooth it out with scotch brite, is it so deep that it will > concentrate force and fracture? Is there some rule of thumb of score depth > vs. bar thickness? > > While I am striving for perfection, I am also trying to learn when to sweat > it and when to not! > > Thanks, feel free to reply on or off line. > > Terri Watson > Lander, WY > RV-6 to 7 fwd spar, HS > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: ENewton57(at)aol.com
Date: Apr 28, 2001
Subject: Re: scoring the angle aluminum - HS-610
As previous posters said, the part is critical enough that I would replace it. Also, order the angle stock from wicks or ACS and get some extra to have around the shop. Believe me you will use it eventually not just for any mistakes you might make, but you'll also find that as you near completion you are having to fabricate a lot of things (i.e. radio stacks, supports for firewall mounted items, etc.) Replace it and move on with confidence that it was done right. Eric Newton - Long Beach, Mississippi RV-6A N57ME (Reserved) (wiring) http://www.ericsrv6a.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Normanjd(at)aol.com
Date: May 14, 2001
Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 05/13/01
Hi, I am building an RV6 and am at the point of assembling the cabin frame. I have seen some RV6's that used flush head screws to attach the Plexiglas to the cabin frame (tip up canopy). Does this require installing platenuts prior to closing this assembly? I have had difficulty straightening the frame parts and getting the outside surface smooth for contact with the Plexiglas. Has anyone had any experience in these areas that would help me? Thanks, Norman Donaldson Grosse Ile Michigan. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "john white" <jakeaire(at)msn.com>
Subject: RV6-List Digest: 2main wheel fairings & 3 gear leg fairings
for sale
Date: May 15, 2001
1) i spent a considerable amount for new fairings(the big ones) 2) -the small amount of increased speed, say 2 or 3 mph is probably not worth all that work. that is the old ones are about as good as the new!!!! 3) anyway the old ones are for sale -2 main wheel & 3 gearleg fairings, and since they are constructed already- just screw them on. $ 100. contact jake on jakeaire(at)msn.com "http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "john white" <jakeaire(at)msn.com>
Subject: manifold pressure line
Date: May 20, 2001
does anyone know what size drain hole should be in the line that travels from the firewall to the cylinder(engine)?? this line provides the vacuum necessary to get a manifold pressure reading. i'd appreciate your help!!! "http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 23, 2001
From: doyal plute <dplute(at)onemain.com>
Subject: Engine baffles RV6A
I am just finishing the engine baffles as provided by Vans. I am wondering...instead of trying to seal top of baffles to top cowl with fabric like Van shows... why not even up top of baffles bend over a lip and put an alluminum top cover on with plate nuts to seal baffle system? The advantages I see are: tighter sealing with no pressure on top cowl, and better fire containment in case of engine fire. However there may be a (gotcha) in there somewhere that I do not know about! I would welcome any feedback from anyone who has, (been-there-done-that) Thanks: Doyal RV6A N4DP (res) 1003 hrs on project to date ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 23, 2001
From: "Boyd C. Braem" <bcbraem(at)home.com>
Subject: Re: Engine baffles RV6A
What you're describing is a plenum cover--widely used and much more efficient than the baffle strips. Mine is made out of fiberglass, but the idea is the same. Go for it!! Boyd doyal plute wrote: > > > I am just finishing the engine baffles as provided by Vans. I am > wondering...instead of trying to seal top of baffles to top cowl with > fabric like Van shows... why not even up top of baffles bend over a lip > and put an alluminum top cover on with plate nuts to seal baffle > system? The advantages I see are: tighter sealing with no pressure on > top cowl, and better fire containment in case of engine fire. However > there may be a (gotcha) in there somewhere that I do not know about! > I would welcome any feedback from anyone who has, (been-there-done-that) > > Thanks: > Doyal RV6A N4DP (res) 1003 hrs on project to date > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 23, 2001
Subject: Re: RV-List: Engine baffles RV6A
From: james freeman <flyeyes(at)bellsouth.net>
on 5/23/01 4:50 PM, doyal plute at dplute(at)onemain.com wrote: > I am just finishing the engine baffles as provided by Vans. I am > wondering...instead of trying to seal top of baffles to top cowl with > fabric like Van shows... why not even up top of baffles bend over a lip > and put an alluminum top cover on with plate nuts to seal baffle > system? Don Eaves here in Memphis did exactly that on his RV6. AFAIK it's working well. I have some pictures of his installation I'd be happy to e-mail you or post somewhere if somebody will host them. He did mention at one point rather than use 4 million nutplates he should have used piano hinge... ;-) James Freeman ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "James D. Ivey" <jim(at)iveylaw.com>
Subject: RE: Engine baffles RV6A
Date: May 23, 2001
> Don Eaves here in Memphis did exactly that on his RV6. AFAIK > it's working > well. I have some pictures of his installation I'd be happy > to e-mail you > or post somewhere if somebody will host them. There's also www.zing.com, www.photoworks.com, www.ofoto.com, www.shutterfly.com, www.idrive.com, etc. I'd love to see the pics. Does the baffle interfere with preflight inspections? Jim Ivey jim(at)iveylaw.com; Oakland, CA ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 23, 2001
From: ENewton57(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Engine baffles RV6A
Gary did something similar to what you describe (I think). I was kind of waiting to see if he responded - Gary? you out there? Anyway, you can check it out at his wedsite at: http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/5379/index.html Click on Firewall Forward and scroll down. Eric Newton - Long Beach. MS RV-6A (Cowl) ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Jim Norman, MD" <jnorman(at)InterMapSystems.com>
Subject: Toggle Switch for Electronic vs Magneto
Date: May 23, 2001
Since we are having an interesting thread here, how about this question... My new IO-360 from Bart came 2 days ago. It has lightspeed CDI in place of one mag, and then a standard Slick mag. Surprisingly, there is absolutely no form of instruction on how to wire this ignition system. I found lots of info on the Lighspeed web site on how to wire their system, but it stops way short of saying how to switch it, or what to do with the magneto. What say all of you? jim Tampa ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "James D. Ivey" <jim(at)iveylaw.com>
Subject: RE: Engine baffles RV6A
Date: May 23, 2001
> There's also www.zing.com, www.photoworks.com, www.ofoto.com, > www.shutterfly.com, www.idrive.com, etc. Don't know why, but the first line of my message got clipped off. All these sites are free. Looking forward to the pics. Jim Ivey jim(at)iveylaw.com Oakland, CA ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "James D. Ivey" <jim(at)iveylaw.com>
Subject: RE: Engine baffles RV6A
Date: May 23, 2001
> Don't know why, but the first line of my message got clipped off. Jeez! Cut off again. Anyone know why? Let's see if this gets through the thought-police.... H T T P : two slashes photos dot y a h o o dot com Treat that as an experimental URL kit -- quickbuild.... Jim Ivey jim(at)iveylaw.com Oakland, CA ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 03, 2001
From: doyal plute <dplute(at)onemain.com>
Subject: Compass location:
I am starting on my panel layout on my RV6A and I have a question: I am contemplating mounting my compass in the lower left corner of my panel. Has anyone mounted their compass here, and if so what were the results? Was it satisfactory or did it show a lot of deviation? My original plan was to mount the compass top center in panel ,but that put it within 6 inches of radio stack, which Vans says is to close. Sincerely: Doyal Plute N4dp resv. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Tim Lewis" <timrv6a(at)earthlink.net>
Date: Jun 04, 2001
Subject: Re: Compass location:
I mounted mine above the "basic 6" instruments. It works OK. I was able to swing it to within a couple of degrees. The problem is, when I turn on the landing lights, taxi lights, and/or the pitot heat, the compass swings up to 30 degrees. Even the panel lights cause it to swing. The wires for all these functions (except the panel lights) run along the bottom of the panel, while the compass is at the top of the panel. More separation would reduce the effect, therefore I recommend you consider mounting the compass on the canopy support (assuming you have a slider) to increase the distance between the compass and the high-current wiring of lights and pitot heat. Tim On 3 Jun 2001, at 22:18, doyal plute wrote: > > I am starting on my panel layout on my RV6A and I have a question: I > am contemplating mounting my compass in the lower left corner of my > panel. Has anyone mounted their compass here, and if so what were the > results? Was it satisfactory or did it show a lot of deviation? My > original plan was to mount the compass top center in panel ,but that > put it within 6 inches of radio stack, which Vans says is to close. > Sincerely: Doyal Plute N4dp resv. > > > > > > ****** Tim Lewis -- Springfield VA RV-6A N47TD - First Flight 18 Dec 99 http://www.geocities.com/timrv6a ****** ________________________________________________________________________________
From: N5962R(at)aol.com
Date: Jun 26, 2001
Subject: Re: RV6 Rear Top Skin
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From: "Gary & Sandi" <flying(at)3rivers.net>
Subject: Tip-up vs Slider
Date: Jun 29, 2001
I am doing the "Tip-up vs Slider" canopy debate. I'd like to know how many builders have chosen each type, and why. Do the tip-ups offer enough ventilation while taxiing? Are they hard to seal? Strong enough when open in windy conditions? What do you guys think? I am building a -9A, but I assume there is very little functional difference between the 9 and the 6 in the canopy. Thought I'd ask you guys who have been flying yours for a while. Thanks, Gary Crowder Belt, Montana #90263 on the wings ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 29, 2001
Subject: Tip-up vs Slider
From: tom144(at)juno.com
> I am doing the "Tip-up vs Slider" canopy debate. I'd like to know Gary Crowder I've flown in both "TU & S" and prefer the slider for reasons mentioned by others especially the taxing and wind. The down side is access behind the panel. The instrument panel should be mounted for easy removal or access panels installed - - a real must. Tom Jones Chevy powered Tip Up & Buick powered Slider. Belted Air Powered. RV6As ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 29, 2001
Subject: Buick Power
From: Tedd McHenry <tedd(at)vansairforce.org>
Tom: snip > Tom Jones Chevy powered Tip Up & Buick powered Slider. Belted Air > Powered. RV6As I'm interested in your Buick conversion. Is it a 215 or a V6? I've been told that the Buick V6 is lighter than the Chevy V6--lighter even than the Buick 215. What have you found? Tedd McHenry Surrey, BC ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Jeffrey" <jrein(at)tdin.com>
Subject: Re: Tip-up vs Slider
Date: Jun 29, 2001
Gary, I have flown both the tip-up and slider versions of thr Rv-6. I also own a 6a w/ a tip-up. The biggest difference I can see is visibility. On the slider the roll bar is fwd of you and slightly above your forehead. There is also the center post, which in my opinion also deters from visibilty. On the tip-up the roll bar is behind you . The visibility is truely noticiably better. Now some may argue that in windy conditions the canopy is less stable. This is partly true. But just as you wouldn't let your flight controls "slop" around why ,why you let your canopy. The fix is very easy, you just close the canopy on to the taxi latch. I have also installed a sun shield which helps keep the temps down inside while the canopy is down if it is windy. As far as taxing, I have the NACA scoops installed and big "eyeball sockets" that bring in plenty of fresh air from the prop wash.There is also an added benefit from the tip-up which I personally don't put too much wait on nor would soley base my decision. That is accessibilty to behind the panel. Of the years of had mine, maybe just once I had to really get behind the panel. I recommend that if you could sit in both and close the canopy, and get the "feel" you'll make a choice. In my opinion, its all about visiblity..Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary & Sandi <flying(at)3rivers.net> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 9:54 AM Subject: RV6-List: Tip-up vs Slider > > I am doing the "Tip-up vs Slider" canopy debate. I'd like to know how > many builders have chosen each type, and why. Do the tip-ups offer > enough ventilation while taxiing? Are they hard to seal? Strong enough > when open in windy conditions? What do you guys think? > > I am building a -9A, but I assume there is very little functional > difference between the 9 and the 6 in the canopy. Thought I'd ask you > guys who have been flying yours for a while. > > Thanks, > > Gary Crowder > Belt, Montana > #90263 on the wings > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "James D. Ivey" <jim(at)iveylaw.com>
Subject: Tip-up vs Slider
Date: Jun 29, 2001
I'm curious about an aspect nobody's mentioned yet. I sat in a 9A at last year's Golden West and it had a slider canopy with an overhead sliding curtain. I could feel a huge difference in pilot head temperature with and without the curtain overhead (my hair doesn't insulate nearly as well as it used to). I've seen sticky plastic shades stuck inside tip-ups -- aesthetically challenged, IMHO. I've also seen painted tip-ups to provide shade. And, of course, I've seen many baseball caps inside tip-ups. What else do people do for shade in tip-ups? Can one install the sliding curtains? Thanks, Jim Ivey jim(at)iveylaw.com Oakland, CA ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 29, 2001
Subject: Re: Buick Power
From: tom144(at)juno.com
> snip> Chevy powered Tip Up & Buick powered Slider. Belted > Air> > Powered. RV6As > > I'm interested in your Buick conversion. Is it a 215 or a V6? I've > been> told that the Buick V6 is lighter than the Chevy V6--lighter even > than the> Buick 215. What have you found?> Tedd McHenry> Surrey, BC > The Buick that I referred to was owned by Glen Smith. It is a 215 all aluminum V8 and it is lighter than the Chevy V6. At this time I believe Belted Air Power is not supplying the Buick conversion but concentrating on the installation of the Chevy V6 in Van's aircraft as it produces more power and is readily available, whereas the Buick is becoming rather scarce. I'm not familiar with the Buick V6 weights. Although we all like to "keep it light" I don't believe the all cast iron Chevy V6 is out of line weight wise. Jess Meyers RV6A has the cast iron engine in it without any necessary changes to weight & balance. It balances just as any RV powered Lycoming does with a constant speed prop. With a three paddle blade Warp Drive fixed pitch prop it performs equal to or better than an 0320 with a constant speed. Of course the original and subsequent maintenance cost is but a fraction of the Lycomings. Tom Jones ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Leon York" <westtexflyboy@cox-internet.com>
Subject: Re: Tip-up vs Slider
Date: Jun 29, 2001
Gary & Sandi, All of us who fly put a certain amount of consideration into the safety aspects of flying.. Any option you choose should be done with safety in mind. I think the canopy decision is one of these options. I would suggests that you look at the three view drawings of the RV6s in Van's Aircraft web page. Lay a straight edge over the drawing of the tip up with the straight edge touching the top of the cowling and the top of the vertical fin. Drop it down a couple of inches to allow for crushing of the fin and see what would hit the ground first in the event of a flip over that ended up side down. Do the same with drawing of the slider. You will see that your head will strike the ground before the rear roll over bar touches the ground in the tip up. The forward roll over bar in the slider would stand a lot better chance of protecting you. This type of accident does happen and fairly frequently. You would have a much better chance of escaping with a slider. The tip up would be impossible to get out of. These two factors made my decision for me. Mine is a 6A with slider. Good luck Leon York ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary & Sandi" <flying(at)3rivers.net> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 8:54 AM Subject: RV6-List: Tip-up vs Slider > > I am doing the "Tip-up vs Slider" canopy debate. I'd like to know how > many builders have chosen each type, and why. Do the tip-ups offer > enough ventilation while taxiing? Are they hard to seal? Strong enough > when open in windy conditions? What do you guys think? > > I am building a -9A, but I assume there is very little functional > difference between the 9 and the 6 in the canopy. Thought I'd ask you > guys who have been flying yours for a while. > > Thanks, > > Gary Crowder > Belt, Montana > #90263 on the wings > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 29, 2001
Subject: Re: Tip-up vs Slider
From: Tedd McHenry <tedd(at)vansairforce.org>
snip > Any option you choose should be done with safety in > mind. I think the canopy decision is one of these options. If it were clear that you would not survive a tip-over with a tip-up canopy, and clear that you would survive a tip-over with a slider, it would still not be a decisive factor for me. I believe the probability of a tip-over is pretty small (though I agree that the consequences could be very high). On the other hand, I will live with other consequences of my choice of canopy every time I fly or work on my plane. And it isn't clear at all that one canopy is significantly safer than the other in a tip-over. I accept that there might be a small advantage in survivability with a slider, but I suspect it's awfully small. Both roll-over bars are a joke compared to what is used in racing cars of the same weight as an RV, so I'm not inclined to count on either one for much protection. I haven't yet decided what canopy I will build, but safety will not be a consideration. Tedd McHenry Surrey, BC ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Richard McCraw" <rmccraw(at)wcvt.com>
Subject: Tip-up vs Slider
Date: Jun 29, 2001
Regarding the slider's rollover bar: Is it really a rollover bar? Does it have the structural integrity to protect you much against the weight of an airplane? Conversely, if rollovers are more-or-less frequent occurrences, does the tip-up have a better record of protecting the pilot? Rick McCraw Beech A36 N2044W ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "James D. Ivey" <jim(at)iveylaw.com>
Subject: Tip-up vs Slider
Date: Jun 29, 2001
> Regarding the slider's rollover bar: Is it really a rollover > bar? Does it > have the structural integrity to protect you much against the > weight of an > airplane? At last year's Golden West, the Van's people kindly reminded me repeatedly to not grab the windscreen frame as I got into and out of the RV9A there. That suggests to me that the windscreen/canopy frame is pretty fragile and would not support the weight of the plane. Anybody else know different? For proper appreciation of context, I weigh about 250 (but still much lighter than an RV with engine, fuel, avionics, prop, etc.). Regards, Jim Ivey jim(at)iveylaw.com Oakland, CA RVator Wannabe ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 29, 2001
Subject: Re: Tip-up vs Slider
From: Tedd McHenry <tedd(at)vansairforce.org>
I'm sure there are current SCCA members out there who can provide more accurate information, but here is my recollection of the requirements for race car rollover protection. The design loads are 9 times the vehicle weight vertically, combined with 6 times vehicle weight laterally, and three times vehicle weight longitudinally. For an RV-6/6A, those would be loads of 14,850 pounds vertically, 9,900 pounds laterally, and 4,950 pounds longitudinally. I believe it is a point load at the highest point of the structure. I'm pretty darned sure the roll bars in both the slider and the tip-up fall somewhat short of what would be required to sustain those loads. Tedd McHenry Surrey, BC ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 29, 2001
From: ENewton57(at)aol.com
Subject: Tip-up vs Slider
Jim, On the slider there is a fiberglass fairing over the rollbar that extends about 3/4" back from the rear edge of the roll bar. This is designed to provide a seal for the sliding canopy when it shuts. This fiberglass can be cracked by putting any weight on it. I believe the roll bar for the slider to very stout and would quite probably survive a rollover incident such as a forced landing into a soft field where the nose digs in and the plane flips over on its top. It is tubular steel and bolts directly to the main longeron and in addition has a 3/4 X 3/4 angle 1/8" thick that runs from the center support bar to the firewall. I fell very confident in its ability to protect me in a situation like described above. Eric Newton - Long Beach, MS RV-6A - N57ME (reserved) (Engine Baffles) www.ericsrv6a.com In a message dated Fri, 29 Jun 2001 7:57:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "James D. Ivey" writes: > Regarding the slider's rollover bar: Is it really a rollover > bar? Does it > have the structural integrity to protect you much against the > weight of an > airplane? At last year's Golden West, the Van's people kindly reminded me repeatedly to not grab the windscreen frame as I got into and out of the RV9A there. That suggests to me that the windscreen/canopy frame is pretty fragile and would not support the weight of the plane. Anybody else know different? For proper appreciation of context, I weigh about 250 (but still much lighter than an RV with engine, fuel, avionics, prop, etc.). Regards, Jim Ivey jim(at)iveylaw.com Oakland, CA RVator Wannabe >> ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 29, 2001
From: "Boyd C. Braem" <bcbraem(at)home.com>
Subject: Re: Tip-up vs Slider
It's not because you "hurt" the roll bar but because of the tendency to bend the aluminum/fiberglass overlap that covers the canopy from the windscreen, causing a binding problem when trying to close the canopy. The roll bar is adequate to prevent collapse in "moderate g-force" accidents. I do not know what its load limit is, but I feel better having it there than NOT having it there. "James D. Ivey" wrote: > > > > Regarding the slider's rollover bar: Is it really a rollover > > bar? Does it > > have the structural integrity to protect you much against the > > weight of an > > airplane? > > At last year's Golden West, the Van's people kindly reminded me repeatedly > to not grab the windscreen frame as I got into and out of the RV9A there. > That suggests to me that the windscreen/canopy frame is pretty fragile and > would not support the weight of the plane. > > Anybody else know different? For proper appreciation of context, I weigh > about 250 (but still much lighter than an RV with engine, fuel, avionics, > prop, etc.). > > Regards, > > Jim Ivey > jim(at)iveylaw.com > Oakland, CA > RVator Wannabe > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Jim Oke" <wjoke(at)home.com>
Subject: Re: Tip-up vs Slider
Date: Jun 29, 2001
One factor I have not seen mentioned yet is the relative difficulty in sealing the forward edge of the tip-up canopy against water ingress both on-the-ground and in-flight. Any leakage here will usually drip on the wiring or $$$ avionics boxes on the forward side of the instrument panel. This is generally not a good thing. A local friend has been flying his -6 for 10 years now with a tip-up and still has problems. He says he wishes he had gone with a slider for this reason - water seepage problems around the forward canopy edge. (I think the first slider kits were coming out when he was building). I think there must be workarounds such as poly shrouds which drape over the instruments and wiring, etc. Guess if you fly in the desert or only in good weather and/or have a good hanger this is not a big problem. Personally and FWIW, I was tinkering with my slider canopy frame this very afternoon. Jim Oke Winnipeg, MB RV-3 C-FIZM RV-6A C-???? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary & Sandi" <flying(at)3rivers.net> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 8:54 AM Subject: RV6-List: Tip-up vs Slider > > I am doing the "Tip-up vs Slider" canopy debate. I'd like to know how > many builders have chosen each type, and why. Do the tip-ups offer > enough ventilation while taxiing? Are they hard to seal? Strong enough > when open in windy conditions? What do you guys think? > > I am building a -9A, but I assume there is very little functional > difference between the 9 and the 6 in the canopy. Thought I'd ask you > guys who have been flying yours for a while. > > Thanks, > > Gary Crowder > Belt, Montana > #90263 on the wings ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 30, 2001
Subject: Re: Tip-up vs Slider
From: Tedd McHenry <tedd(at)vansairforce.org>
> > One factor I have not seen mentioned yet is the relative difficulty in > sealing the forward edge of the tip-up canopy against water ingress both > on-the-ground and in-flight. Wouldn't it be possible to put a drainage tray under the front edge of the tip-up canopy? After all, you car has a great big hole right above the heater inlet that rain pours through all the time. But your car manufacturer thoughtfully put a little tray in there that redirects the water to the sides and drains it on to the ground. Tedd McHenry Surrey, BC ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 30, 2001
From: Don Richcreek <silverwings(at)cybertrails.com>
Subject: Re: Tip-up vs Slider
I have an RV6 with a tilt up and have been flying it for 800 hrs. I love the visabilty and accessibilty to the panel. I have no trouble with water leakage even flying in the rain. Also have very little wind noise. I sometimes taxi with the canopy up. On hot days I leave it open waiting for departure. I live in Arizona and fly most every day. Also find that it is the easiest canopy to build.In the wintertime when its cold it does not leak cold air on the back of my neck like some of the sliders I've been in. Jeffrey wrote: > > Gary, I have flown both the tip-up and slider versions of thr Rv-6. I also > own a 6a w/ a tip-up. The biggest difference I can see is visibility. On the > slider the roll bar is fwd of you and slightly above your forehead. There is > also the center post, which in my opinion also deters from visibilty. On the > tip-up the roll bar is behind you . The visibility is truely noticiably > better. Now some may argue that in windy conditions the canopy is less > stable. This is partly true. But just as you wouldn't let your flight > controls "slop" around why ,why you let your canopy. The fix is very easy, > you just close the canopy on to the taxi latch. I have also installed a sun > shield which helps keep the temps down inside while the canopy is down if it > is windy. As far as taxing, I have the NACA scoops installed and big > "eyeball sockets" that bring in plenty of fresh air from the prop wash.There > is also an added benefit from the tip-up which I personally don't put too > much wait on nor would soley base my decision. That is accessibilty to > behind the panel. Of the years of had mine, maybe just once I had to really > get behind the panel. I recommend that if you could sit in both and close > the canopy, and get the "feel" you'll make a choice. In my opinion, its all > about visiblity..Jeff > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gary & Sandi <flying(at)3rivers.net> > To: > Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 9:54 AM > Subject: RV6-List: Tip-up vs Slider > > > > > I am doing the "Tip-up vs Slider" canopy debate. I'd like to know how > > many builders have chosen each type, and why. Do the tip-ups offer > > enough ventilation while taxiing? Are they hard to seal? Strong enough > > when open in windy conditions? What do you guys think? > > > > I am building a -9A, but I assume there is very little functional > > difference between the 9 and the 6 in the canopy. Thought I'd ask you > > guys who have been flying yours for a while. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Gary Crowder > > Belt, Montana > > #90263 on the wings > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 29, 2001
From: doyal plute <dplute(at)onemain.com>
Subject: Speedometer ext. cable?
I am using the 12" speedometer extension on my RV6A. What is the most practical way to mount this and the sender? If I mount it on the engine side of the firewall it will have to have a pretty sharp bend (not good)! I think maybe-run cable through a rubber grommet to cockpit side of firewall and mount it somewhere there. Anyone out there have any ideas on this subject? Also-are most of you installing the inst. panel to be removable, or just riveting it in permanent? Thanks for any help: Sincerely Doyal R./ Plute resv.N4DP ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Tom & Cathy Ervin" <tcervin(at)valkyrie.net>
Subject: Re: Speedometer ext. cable?
Date: Jul 29, 2001
Doyal: I mounted my Tach Sender on the inside of the firewall (Less Heat and Straight cable run). Take some Clear Mylar and make a template of the back of the sender (Note small anti-rotation post). Put template on firewall allowing a straight cable run and drill to attach sender. On your second question my panel will be removable. Tom in Ohio ----- Original Message ----- From: doyal plute <dplute(at)onemain.com> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 10:43 AM Subject: RV6-List: Speedometer ext. cable? > > I am using the 12" speedometer extension on my RV6A. What is the most > practical way to mount this and the sender? If I mount it on the engine > side of the firewall it will have to have a pretty sharp bend (not > good)! I think maybe-run cable through a rubber grommet to cockpit > side of firewall and mount it somewhere there. Anyone out there have > any ideas on this subject? > > Also-are most of you installing the inst. panel to be removable, or just > riveting it in permanent? > > Thanks for any help: > Sincerely > Doyal R./ Plute resv.N4DP > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 02, 2001
From: doyal plute <dplute(at)onemain.com>
Subject: Primer lines
I am fabricating the primer system on my 0-360 engine and I am trying to find AN xxxx-01 copper tubing to connect to the AN4022-1 discharge nipples ( this tubing is soldered into the AN800-2 union cone) Does anyone know of a source for this? (need about 6 ft.) Sincerely: Doyal ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Bezinque, David" <David_Bezinque(at)maxtor.com>
Subject: RV6 gear leg stiffener alignment
Date: Aug 29, 2001
I am ready to epoxy the wood gearleg stiffeners to the aft side of the gear legs. I can't see a good way to insure that they are positioned properly with respect to the flight path. Do you just eyeball it and hope for the best? Dave Bezinque RV-6 QB ________________________________________________________________________________
From: PerrittMD(at)aol.com
Date: Aug 29, 2001
Subject: Re: RV6 gear leg stiffener alignment
According to the guys and gals at Technical Support at Van's the wooden supports are not necessary when using the fiberglass landing gear fairings and I have not used them although I have not flown as yet. Will add them if necessary after flying. I was not able to do the thing outlined in the manual so I just eyeballed the fairings and they seem to be quite straight. Hope this helps you somewhat. Regards, "Doc" Perritt RV-6 Quickbuild Wilmington, NC perrittmd(at)aol.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Tim Lewis" <timrv6a(at)earthlink.net>
Date: Aug 29, 2001
Subject: Re: RV6 gear leg stiffener alignment
> According to the guys and gals at Technical Support at Van's > the > wooden supports are not necessary when using the fiberglass landing > gear fairings and I have not used them although I have not flown as > yet. Will add them if necessary after flying. I was not able to do > the thing outlined in the manual so I just eyeballed the fairings and > they seem to be quite straight. That's odd. As I recall, when I called Van's back in 1998 for advice on this, I was told that they thought the stiffeners WERE needed to reduce shimmy (even though I was using fiberglass fairings). I installed them, per the directions (weight off the gear, strings used to center the wood stiffeners). Tim ****** Tim Lewis -- Fairfax, VA RV-6A N47TD - First Flight 18 Dec 99 http://www.geocities.com/timrv6a ****** ________________________________________________________________________________
From: avdub(at)mindspring.com
Subject: Re: RV6 gear leg stiffener alignment
Date: Aug 21, 2001
Am not certain, but believe the no wood stiffeners necessary applies only to the nose gear (RV6A). I have added the stiffeners to my main gear legs based on instructions in the assembly manual. Dick S ________________________________________________________________________________
From: avdub(at)mindspring.com
Subject: Re: RV6 gear leg stiffener alignment
Date: Aug 21, 2001
Am not certain, but believe the no wood stiffeners necessary applies only to the nose gear (RV6A). I have added the stiffeners to my main gear legs based on instructions in the assembly manual. The alignment instructions are quite specific and are a pain to accomplish, but it works. Correct alignment by eyeballing is near impossible. Dick S -----Original Message----- From: Bezinque, David <David_Bezinque(at)maxtor.com> Date: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 2:10 PM Subject: RV6-List: RV6 gear leg stiffener alignment > >I am ready to epoxy the wood gearleg stiffeners to the aft side of the gear >legs. I can't see a good way to insure that they are positioned properly >with respect to the flight path. Do you just eyeball it and hope for the >best? > >Dave Bezinque >RV-6 QB > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Sep 04, 2001
rv6-list(at)matronics.com, rv7-list(at)matronics.com, rv8-list(at)matronics.com, rv9-list(at)matronics.com, rvcanada-list(at)matronics.com, rveurope-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Van's Homecoming 2001 - A Photo Journal!
Hi RV Listers! Well, just back from Van's Homecoming BBQ and Fly-in up at the Aurora Airport and in a word, wow. Below is a URL link to a web page I did on the photos I took over the two days. There are multi-resolutions and preview thumbnails for easy viewing. http://www.matronics.com/rv-list/VansHomeComing2001/ Have a look and feel free to download any you'd like to keep or make your screen backdrops. If you haven't gone to a Homecoming before, or even if you have, I highly recommend the trip. Very inspirational. Best regards, Matt Dralle RV-4 Finish Kit - #1763 - N442RV Matronics EMail List Admin. -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft Great minds discuss ideas, Average minds discuss events, Small minds discuss people... ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 09, 2001
From: Robert Blum <bob(at)theblums.net>
Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 09/08/01
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From: don522(at)webtv.net (Don McCallister)
Date: Sep 14, 2001
support(at)vansaircraft.com
Subject: Fwd: Fw: FW:Proud to be an American
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Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ --0-372528612-1000347251=:97779 From: "Kathy Hartmann" <kathyhart5(at)hotmail.com> "Judy landenberger" , "Ben Hartmann" , "Betty Baldwin" , "bev" , "beverly best" , "B Vrbka" , "bwg5_hotmail_com" , "Krista Clinton" , "corallee jacobson" , "David Miers" , "emil Lampee" , "elaine" , "matthew ehrlich" , "Gayle Bayer" , "Della Hartmann" , "Hope Mahagoub" , "jamiers_hotmail_com" , "janet stutzman" , "Jerilyn Boldebuck" , "jennifer verdicchio" , "Judy Bluhm" , "Keith Hartmann" , "khristina hartman" , "Linda Miers" , "Lindad ehrlich" , "Lori and Loren" , "Nancy Johnson" , "Paulette" , "rachsusa_msn_com" , "ruth raun" , "Sue Berry" , "Tim danbom" Subject: Fw: FW:Proud to be an American Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 19:18:06 -0700 ----- Original Message ----- From: Verla.Kelly(at)centurytel.com Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:59 AM Subject: FW:Proud to be an American TRIBUTE TO THE UNITED STATES This, from a Canadian newspaper, is worth sharing. America: The Good Neighbor. Wide spread but only partial news coverage was given recently to a remarkable editorial broadcast from Toronto by Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian television Commentator. What follows is the full text of his trenchant remarks as printed in the Congressional Record: "This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans as the most generous and possibly the least appreciated people on all the earth. Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy were lifted out of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions of dollars and forgave other billions in debts. None of these countries is today paying even the interest on its remaining debts to the United States. When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans who propped it up, and their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it. When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the United States that hurries in to help. This spring, 59 American communities were flattened by tornadoes. Nobody helped. The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped billions of dollars into discouraged countries. Now newspapers in those countries are writing about the decadent, warmongering Americans. I'd like to see just one of those countries that is gloating over the erosion of the United States dollar build its own airplane. Does any other country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10? If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all the International lines except Russia fly American planes? Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or woman on the moon? You talk about Japanese technocracy, and you get radios. You talk about German technocracy, and you get automobiles. You talk about American technocracy, and you find men on the moon - not once, but several times - and safely home again. You talk about scandals, and the Americans put theirs right in the store window for everybody to look at. Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued and hounded. They are here on our streets, and most of them, unless they are breaking Canadian laws, are getting American dollars from ma and pa at home to spend here. When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down through age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an old caboose. Both are still broke. I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced to the help of other people in trouble. Can you name me even one time when someone else raced to the Americans in trouble? I don't think there was outside help even during the San Francisco earthquake. Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them get kicked around. They will come out of this thing with their flag high. And when they do, they are entitled to thumb their nose at the lands that are gloating over their present troubles. I hope Canada is not one of those." Stand proud, America! Wear it proudly!! This is one of the best editorials that I have ever read regarding the United States. It is nice that one man realizes it. I only wish that the rest of the world would realize it. We are always blamed for everything, and never even get a thank you for the things we do. I hope that each of you send this to as many people as you can. Emphasize that they should send it to as many of their friends, until this letter is sent to everyone on the web. ------------------( Forwarded letter 1 follows )-------------------- Date: Wednesday, 12 September 2001 9:37am PT Sharon.Gilbert, Verla.Kelly From: Roxanne.Malfait Subject: [Fwd: [Fwd: Proud to be an]] > > TRIBUTE TO THE UNITED STATES > This, from a Canadian newspaper, is worth sharing. > America: The Good Neighbor. > > Widespread but only partial news coverage was given > recently to a remarkable editorial broadcast from > Toronto by Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian television > Commentator. What follows is the full text of his > trenchant remarks as printed in the Congressional > Record: > > "This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the > Americans as the most generous and possibly the > least appreciated people on all the earth. Germany, > Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy > were lifted out of the debris of war by the > Americans who poured in billions of dollars and > forgave other billions in debts. > > None of these countries is today paying even the > interest on its remaining debts to the United > States. When France was in danger of collapsing in > 1956, it was the Americans who propped it up, and > their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the > streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it. > > When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the > United States that hurries in to help. This spring, > 59 American communities were flattened by tornadoes. > Nobody helped. The Marshall Plan and the Truman > Policy pumped billions of dollars into discouraged > countries. Now newspapers in those countries are > writing about the decadent, warmongering Americans. > > I'd like to see just one of those countries that is > gloating over the erosion of the United States > dollar build its own airplane. Does any other > country in the world have a plane to equal the > Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the > Douglas DC10? > > If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all the > International lines except Russia fly American > Planes? Why does no other land on earth even > consider putting a man or woman on the moon? You > talk about Japanese technocracy, and you get radios. > You talk about German technocracy, and you get > automobiles. You talk about American technocracy, > and you find men on the moon - not once, but several > times - and safely home again. > > You talk about scandals, and the Americans put > theirs right in the store window for everybody to > look at. Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued > and hounded. They are here on our streets, and most > of them, unless they are breaking Canadian laws, are > getting American dollars from ma and pa at home to > spend here. > > When the railways of France, Germany and India were > breaking down through age, it was the Americans who > rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and the > New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an > old caboose. Both are still broke. > > I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced > to the help of other people in trouble. Can you name > me even one time when someone else raced to the > Americans in trouble? I don't think there was > outside help even during the San Francisco > earthquake. > > > Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one > Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them get > kicked around. They will come out of this thing > with their flag high. And when they do, they are > entitled to thumb their nose at the lands that are > gloating over their present troubles. I hope Canada > is not one of those." > > Stand proud, America! Wear it proudly!! > > This is one of the best editorials that I have ever > read regarding the United States. It is nice that > one man realizes it. I only wish that the rest of > the world would realize it. We are always blamed for > everything, and never even get a thank you for the > things we do. > > I would hope that each of you would send this to as > many people as you can and emphasize that they > should send it to as many of their friends until > this letter is sent to every person on the web. I am > just a single American that has read this, TRIBUTE > TO ://explorer.msn.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Verla.Kelly(at)centurytel.com=20Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:59 AM To: ssmkc(at)hotmail.com; kathyhart5(at)hotmail.com; bookielee(at)worldnet.att.net Subject: FW:Proud to be an American TRIBUTE TO THE UNITED STATESThis, from a Canadian newspaper, is worth sharing. America: The Good Neighbor.Wide spread but only partial news coverage was given >recently to a remarkable editorial broadcast fromToronto by Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian televisionCommentator. What follows is the full text of histrenchant remarks as printed in the Congressional Record:"This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for theAmericans as the most generous and possibly theleast appreciated people on all the earth. Germany,Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italywere lifted out of the debris of war by theAmericans who poured in billions of dollars andforgave other billions in debts.None of these countries is today paying even theinterest on its remaining debts to the UnitedStates. When France was in danger of collapsing in1956, it was the Americans who propped it up, andtheir reward was to be insulted and swindled on thestreets of Paris. I was there. I saw it.When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is theUnited States that hurries in to help. This spring,59 American communities were flattened by tornadoes.Nobody helped.=20The Marshall Plan and the TrumanPolicy pumped billions of dollars into discouragedcountries. Now newspapers in those countries arewriting about the decadent, warmongering Americans.I'd like to see just one of those countries that isgloating over the erosion of the United States R>dollar build its own airplane. Does any othercountry in the world have a plane to equal theBoeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or theDouglas DC10?If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all theInternational lines except Russia fly Americanplanes? Why does no other land=20on earth evenconsider putting a man or woman on the moon? Youtalk about Japanese technocracy, and you get radios.You talk about German technocracy, and you getautomobiles. You talk about American technocracy,and you find men on the moon - not once, but severaltimes - and safely home again.You talk about scandals, and the Americans puttheirs right in the store window for everybody tolook at. Even their draft-dodgers are not pursuedand hounded. They are here on our streets, and most >of them, unless they are breaking Canadian laws, aregetting American dollars from ma and pa at home to spend here.When the railways of France, Germany and India werebreaking down through age, it was the Americans whorebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and theNew York Central went broke, nobody loaned them anold caboose. Both are still broke.I can name you 5000 times when the Americans racedto the help of other people in trouble. Can you nameme even one time when someone else raced to theAmericans in trouble? I don't think there wasoutside help even during the San Francisco earthquake.Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm oneCanadian who is damned tired of hearing them get kicked around. They will come out of this thingwith their flag high.=20And when they do, they areentitled to thumb their nose at the lands that aregloating over their present troubles. I hope Canadais not one of those."Stand proud, America! Wear it proudly!!This is one of the best editorials that I have everread regarding the United States.=20It is nice thatone man realizes it. I only wish that the rest ofthe=20world would realize it. We are always blamed foreverything, and never even get a thank you for thethings we do.I hope that each of you send this to as many people as you can. Emphasizethat theyshould send it to as many of their friends, until this letter is sent toeveryone on the web.------------------( Forwarded letter 1 follows )--------------------Date: Wednesday, 12 September 2001 9:37am PTTo: Andy.Macha, Josef.Liberman, Karen.Boman, Lew.Dulaney, Paul.Potts, Sharon.Gilbert, Verla.KellyFrom: Roxanne.MalfaitSubject: [Fwd: [Fwd: Proud to be an]] TRIBUTE TO THE UNITED STATES > This, from a Canadian newspaper, is worth sharing. America: The Good Neighbor. Widespread but only partial news coverage was given recently to a remarkable editorial broadcast from Toronto by Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian television Commentator. What follows is the full text of his trenchant remarks as printed in the Congressional Record: "This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans as the most generous and possibly the least appreciated people on all the earth. Germany, Japan=20and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy were lifted out of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions of dollars and R> forgave other billions in debts. None of these countries is today paying even the interest on its remaining debts to the=20United States. When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans who propped it up, and their reward was to=20be insulted and swindled on the streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it. When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the=20United States that hurries in to help. This spring, 59 American communities were flattened by tornadoes. Nobody helped. The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped billions of dollars into discouraged countries. Now newspapers in those countries are writing about the decadent, warmongering Americans. I'd like to see just one of those countries that is gloating over the erosion of the United States dollar build its own airplane. Does any other country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10? If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all the International lines except Russia=20fly American Planes? Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or woman on the moon? You talk about Japanese technocracy, and you get radios. You talk about German technocracy, and you get automobiles. You talk about American technocracy, and you find men on the moon - not once, but several times - and safely home again. You talk about scandals, and the Americans=20put theirs right in the store window for everybody to look at. Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued and hounded. They are here on our streets, and most of them, unless they are breaking Canadian laws, are getting American dollars from ma and pa at home to spend here. When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down through age, it was the Americans who=20rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an old caboose. Both are still broke. I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced to the help of other people in trouble. Can you name me even one time when someone else raced to the Americans in trouble? I don't think there was outside help even during the San Francisco earthquake. Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them get kicked around. They will come out of this thing with their flag high. And when they do, they are entitled to thumb their nose at the lands that=20are gloating over their present troubles. I hope Canada is not one of those." Stand proud, America! Wear it proudly!! > This is one of the best editorials that I have ever read regarding the United States. It is nice that one man realizes it. I only wish that the rest of the world would realize it. We are always blamed for everything, and never even get a thank you for the > things we do. I would hope that each of you would send this to as many people as you can and emphasize that they should send it to as many of their friends until this letter is sent=20to every person on the web. I am just a single American that has read this, TRIBUTE TO THE UNITED STATESGet more from the Web. FREE MSN=20Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com --0-372528612-1000347251=:97779-- ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Sep 14, 2001
aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com, avionics-list(at)matronics.com, rv4-list(at)matronics.com, rv6-list(at)matronics.com, tailwind-list(at)matronics.com, pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Printing Labels on Wire...
Hello Listers, I've been pondering the impending electrical wiring of the 'ol RV-4 and it occurred to me that at some point in my 10-year building process someone showed me a nifty wire labeler that would allow you to put most any gauge of wire in one side and pull it completely through. The labeler would repeatedly print a string of text along the wire from one end to the other. I have no idea now where I saw this labeler or what it was called. Does anyone have any insight on this device? Thanks! Matt Dralle RV-4 / #1763 / N442RV -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft Great minds discuss ideas, Average minds discuss events, Small minds discuss people... ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 14, 2001
From: "J. Forster" <jfor(at)onemain.com>
rv4-list(at)matronics.com, rv6-list(at)matronics.com, tailwind-list(at)matronics.com, pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Avionics-List: Printing Labels on Wire...
They are thermal printers. I don't remember who makes them but it might be Allen Avionics. Try eBay. -John Matt Dralle wrote: > --> Avionics-List message posted by: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) > > Hello Listers, > > I've been pondering the impending electrical wiring of the 'ol RV-4 and > it occurred to me that at some point in my 10-year building process someone > showed me a nifty wire labeler that would allow you to put most any > gauge of wire in one side and pull it completely through. The labeler > would repeatedly print a string of text along the wire from one end to the > other. I have no idea now where I saw this labeler or what it was > called. Does anyone have any insight on this device? > > Thanks! > > Matt Dralle ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Gaylen Lerohl" <lerohl@rea-alp.com>
, , ,
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Printing Labels on Wire...
Date: Sep 15, 2001
Listers: An inexpensive method is illustrated in our "How to" pages: http://www.terminaltown.com/Pages/Page94.html. If you don't have a high temp heat gun an open flame works well too. I like to set a candle on the bench so I can use both hands to maneuver the wire. You might want to practice on some scrap first, especially if you are using wire insulated with material other than Tefzel. Regards, Gaylen Lerohl www.terminaltown.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> ; ; ; ; ; ; Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 19:06 Subject: AeroElectric-List: Printing Labels on Wire... > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) > > > Hello Listers, > > I've been pondering the impending electrical wiring of the 'ol RV-4 and > it occurred to me that at some point in my 10-year building process someone > showed me a nifty wire labeler that would allow you to put most any > gauge of wire in one side and pull it completely through. The labeler > would repeatedly print a string of text along the wire from one end to the > other. I have no idea now where I saw this labeler or what it was > called. Does anyone have any insight on this device? > > Thanks! > > Matt Dralle > RV-4 / #1763 / N442RV > > > -- > > > Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 > 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email > http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft > > Great minds discuss ideas, > Average minds discuss events, > Small minds discuss people... > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Heinrich Gerhardt" <hgerhardt(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: IO-360 into RV-6
Date: Sep 15, 2001
Who out there in cyberland have installed a 200 HP IO-360 into their RV-6? Van says not to do it, I know, but what's it take to make it fit? I can get one with low hours and a good price. I'm fitting the cowl now, so it's a good time to do it if I do. I'm no stranger to fiberglass (in fact, after modifying this thing to make it fit, I don't see how Van's could sell such crappy fiberglass parts). It looks like there will be a bit of interference in the fwd valve cover area, but I can't see if the throttle body will interfere with anything. (This engine is still installed in a Cristen Eagle). Thanks, Heinrich Gerhardt ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 16, 2001
From: "ray sheffield" <1052a(at)prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 09/15/01
'RV6-List Digest Server' wrote:=0A=0A- * - RV6-List Digest Archive - --- - Total Messages Posted Sat 09/15/01: 2 - - - _______ - From: "Gaylen Lerohl" <lerohl@rea-alp.com ...'=0A=0A=0A> Take a look to the attachment. =0A=0A=0A ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Mike Nellis" <mnellis(at)peoplepc.com>
Subject: Aileron Gap Seal Installation
Date: Sep 21, 2001
Can anyone out there tell me if they used the AN3-3 rivets to install the aileron gap seal to the top wing skin on a -6? If so, How did you install those rivets? The plans call out for 3-3 rivets but I can't for the live of me see how to install those rivets without removing the top skin. Since my top skin is already installed and riveted on, that option is out of the question. Mike Nellis - http://bmnellis.com Plainfield, IL RV6 N699BM (res) Building Flaps Stinson 108-2 N9666K ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Paul Besing" <azpilot(at)extremezone.com>
Subject: Re: Aileron Gap Seal Installation
Date: Sep 21, 2001
Yes, Mike it can be done. You need a footed bucking bar. Kind of looks like an "s" shaped bar. Use the pointed foot while pulling the gap seal away from the rear spar and you can reach it with that bar. Or, you could cheat and use pop rivets like I have seen alot of airplanes with. Paul Besing RV-6A N197AB Arizona http://www.lacodeworks.com/besing Flying Kitlog Pro Builder's Log Software http://www.kitlog.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Nellis" <mnellis(at)peoplepc.com> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 8:13 AM Subject: RV6-List: Aileron Gap Seal Installation Can anyone out there tell me if they used the AN3-3 rivets to install the aileron gap seal to the top wing skin on a -6? If so, How did you install those rivets? The plans call out for 3-3 rivets but I can't for the live of me see how to install those rivets without removing the top skin. Since my top skin is already installed and riveted on, that option is out of the question. Mike Nellis - http://bmnellis.com Plainfield, IL RV6 N699BM (res) Building Flaps Stinson 108-2 N9666K ________________________________________________________________________________
From: owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com
Subject: !!new RV messageboard!!
Date: Sep 24, 2001
To the best of my knowledge the RV community has not untill now had a "real" messageboard. So I started one! you can access it here http://www.flugfelagid.com/ffmessageb/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi or go through our web www.flugfelagid.com (on the menu click messageboard and it opens in a separate window) I hope in time it will be frequented and thus become highly useful and entertaining for everyone. To post you will need to register. Thor Hardarson Iceland Building a RV-9 empennage ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Normanjd(at)aol.com
Date: Sep 24, 2001
Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 09/21/01
From Norm Donaldson RV6 working on canopy frame, I too had installed my top skins before I installed the Aileron gap seals. What I did was clamp and tape the seal into position and carefully layout and drill the holes as shown on the plans. Consider the fact that if the rivets are too close to the radius you will not be able to buck them. What you will have to do is cleco the seal in position putting a cleco in every hole. Gently pull down the other side of the seal. Remove one cleco and install a rivet. This is definitely a two man job! You will need an offset bucking bar with a narrow anvil to get up in the tight area. I always use 25 to 28 PSI on my 3x rivet gun to minimize possibility of damaging sheet metal. This is awkward riveting at its best. Remember only remove one cleco at a time at the bending load on the seal will tend to separate the seal from the top skin. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 28, 2001
From: doyal plute <dplute(at)onemain.com>
Subject: seat belts
With the abundance of late model wrecked cars in the salvage yards with perfectly good seat belts, has anyone used them in R.V. aircraft? If so, how good was the outcome? Also, attaching the wingtips on a RV 6 A, either pop rivet, screws with nutplates or glue on with proseal. What seems to work the best? Sincerely: D Plute ________________________________________________________________________________
From: MeangreenRV4(at)aol.com
Date: Oct 01, 2001
Subject: Re: seat belts
In a message dated 9/28/01 3:38:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time, dplute(at)onemain.com writes: > > > With the abundance of late model wrecked cars in the salvage yards with > perfectly good seat belts, has anyone used them in R.V. aircraft? If > so, how good was the outcome? > Also, attaching the wingtips on a RV 6 A, either pop rivet, screws with > nutplates or glue on with proseal. What seems to work the best? > Sincerely: > D Plute > > > Some advice.....stay away from the salvage yards "don't go there" stay away. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 01, 2001
Subject: Re: seat belts
From: "Tedd McHenry" <tedd(at)vansairforce.org>
> >Some advice.....stay away from the salvage yards "don't go there" stay away. > Why? Tedd McHenry Surrey, BC ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Thomas Mosher" <tmosher(at)gbronline.com>
Subject: Re: seat belts
Date: Oct 01, 2001
1. Belts usually exposed to weather 2. condition of belts unknown 3. possibility of being exposed to excessive stress - did you know that it is recommended that you replace your car's seatbelts after an accident? They are usually stretched out from restraining you in the crash? 4. age of belts unknown 5. you going to trust something you got on the cheap to restrain you in an accident? Tom N787RV (reserved) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tedd McHenry" <tedd(at)vansairforce.org> Subject: Re: RV6-List: seat belts > > > > >Some advice.....stay away from the salvage yards "don't go there" stay away. > > > > Why? > > Tedd McHenry > Surrey, BC > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: RTTevis(at)aol.com
Date: Oct 02, 2001
Subject: Re: seat belts
To be legal you need a seat belt and shoulder harness. You will not find equipment from a wrecking yard which will attach to the longerons as required for strength. T.T. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Paul Besing" <azpilot(at)extremezone.com>
Subject: Re: seat belts
Date: Oct 02, 2001
This is an airplane. Probably $40,000 at least. Buy some aircraft seatbelts. $150 from Van's shouldn't set you back much if you are spending this much on an airplane. Or if you really want slick seatbelts, spend $300 (still a bargain, IMHO) on some hooker harnesses. Paul Besing RV-6A N197AB Arizona http://www.lacodeworks.com/besing Flying Kitlog Pro Builder's Log Software http://www.kitlog.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tedd McHenry" <tedd(at)vansairforce.org> Subject: Re: RV6-List: seat belts > >Some advice.....stay away from the salvage yards "don't go there" stay away. > Why? Tedd McHenry Surrey, BC ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 02, 2001
Subject: Re: seat belts
From: "Tedd McHenry" <tedd(at)vansairforce.org>
> >1. Belts usually exposed to weather >2. condition of belts unknown >3. possibility of being exposed to excessive stress - did you know that it >is recommended that you replace your car's seatbelts after an accident? They >are usually stretched out from restraining you in the crash? >4. age of belts unknown >5. you going to trust something you got on the cheap to restrain you in an >accident? Right, but any intelligent person knows those things. So I take it you're saying there's nothing wrong with buying from a wrecker, assuming you can satisfactorily answer those questions? That takes us back to my original question, "Why a blanket statement against buying from a wrecker?" Tedd ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 02, 2001
Subject: Re: seat belts
From: "Tedd McHenry" <tedd(at)vansairforce.org>
> >This is an airplane. Probably $40,000 at least. Buy some aircraft >seatbelts. $150 from Van's shouldn't set you back much if you are spending >this much on an airplane. Or if you really want slick seatbelts, spend $300 >(still a bargain, IMHO) on some hooker harnesses. Perhaps I should clarify. I'm not necessarily promoting the idea of buying seat belts from an auto wrecker. Personally, I don't want automotive-style inertia-reel seat belts (although nothing in the discussion so far has said we're not talking about buying a set of brand-new four- or five-point harnesses that were in the trunk of a wrecked car, still in their origianl package). The blanket statement that was made was, "stay away from the salvage yards `don't go there' stay away." That's quite an emphatic and all-encompassing statement, which presumably covers aircraft salvage yards as well. In fact, looking at the statement again it appears that it might have meant aircraft salvage yards specifically. So, again, why? Tedd ________________________________________________________________________________
From: MeangreenRV4(at)aol.com
Date: Oct 02, 2001
Subject: Re: seat belts
In a message dated 10/1/01 9:16:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time, tedd(at)vansairforce.org writes: > > > > >Some advice.....stay away from the salvage yards "don't go there" stay > away. > > > > Why? > > Tedd McHenry > Surrey, BC > > > Wrecked car parts do not belong on aircraft. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 02, 2001
From: Garry LeGare <"versadek"@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: seat belts
I believe there is an issue with automotive belts being difficult to release when a person is hanging from them. I say believe because, I know there was an issue with older cars. As a ex Paramedic, We almost always had to cut the belts to extract people when inverted. The newer auto belts may have been changed. I don't know. Just like everyone else who posts to this list, I have an opinion. By the best quality safety equipment you can afford, even if it means doing without the latest dazzling piece of electronics. Garry "Casper" RV6, Scroth quick release 5 point belts and shoulder harness. MeangreenRV4(at)aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 10/1/01 9:16:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > tedd(at)vansairforce.org writes: > > > > > > > > >Some advice.....stay away from the salvage yards "don't go there" stay > > away. > > > > > > > Why? > > > > Tedd McHenry > > Surrey, BC > > > > > > > > Wrecked car parts do not belong on aircraft. > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 02, 2001
Subject: Re: seat belts
From: tom j powers <tompowersrv6(at)juno.com>
writes: > > > > > > >This is an airplane. Probably $40,000 at least. Buy some aircraft > >seatbelts. $150 from Van's shouldn't set you back much if you are > spending > >this much on an airplane. Or if you really want slick seatbelts, > spend $300 > >(still a bargain, IMHO) on some hooker harnesses. > > Perhaps I should clarify. I'm not necessarily promoting the idea of > buying > seat belts from an auto wrecker. Personally, I don't want > automotive-style > inertia-reel seat belts (although nothing in the discussion so far > has said > we're not talking about buying a set of brand-new four- or > five-point > harnesses that were in the trunk of a wrecked car, still in their > origianl > package). The blanket statement that was made was, "stay away from > the > salvage yards `don't go there' stay away." That's quite an emphatic > and > all-encompassing statement, which presumably covers aircraft salvage > yards > as well. In fact, looking at the statement again it appears that it > might > have meant aircraft salvage yards specifically. So, again, why? > > Tedd > > > _ Tedd another thing to think about is you are the manufacture of your aircraft when you sell your airplane you could be held liable if someone has an accident and is hurt or killed and they find that the seat belts were not aircraft quality. Ask Piper about the famous Piper Cub law suit. (read EAAS selling your homebuilt) Tom Powers N5UA RV-6 Aircraft belts installed ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 02, 2001
Subject: Re: seat belts
From: "Tedd McHenry" <tedd(at)vansairforce.org>
>Wrecked car parts do not belong on aircraft. That's just a platitude. Why not wrecked car parts on an airplane? I can think of quite a few parts from a wrecked car I'd be willing to use on an airplane: seats, seat material, carpeting and other interior trim sound insulation engine instruments engine long block (suitably overhauled) alternator starter ventilation system components power locks glove box light switch and socket interior light switch and socket cigar lighter stereo or speakers rear-view mirror AC compressor and condensor Thanks to everyone who answered regarding seat belts. For the record, I plan to use brand-new belts suitable for aerobatics in my -6. Seat belts aren't the issue for me in this thread, salvaged parts are. Tedd ________________________________________________________________________________
From: MeangreenRV4(at)aol.com
Date: Oct 03, 2001
Subject: Re: seat belts
In a message dated 10/2/01 11:11:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time, tedd(at)vansairforce.org writes: > > >Wrecked car parts do not belong on aircraft. > > That's just a platitude. Why not wrecked car parts on an airplane? I can > think of quite a few parts from a wrecked car I'd be willing to use on an > airplane: > > seats, seat material, carpeting and other interior trim > sound insulation > engine instruments > engine long block (suitably overhauled) > alternator


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