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TCW Technologies has introduced a series of new electronic servo controllers specifically designed for the Ray Allen series of trim servos used in our RV aircraft. This new series of controllers is called Safety-Trim and provides many features not previously available. Safety-Trim prevents trim run-away conditions by providing a time limited servo operation with each activation of a trim switch. Safety-Trim additionally provides speed control and simplified trim switch wiring. Safety-Trim works on both 12 and 24 volt systems and is short circuit and reverse polarity protected. Additionally, models are available that provide 2 speed preset operation of the trim system. Allowing fast responding trim at slow airspeeds and slow responding trim at cruise airspeeds. To learn all about this innovative new product please visit www.tcwtech.com Thank you, Bob Newman RV-10 40176 TCW Technologies rnewman(at)tcwtech.com ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 09, 2007
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: If You Got This Email, You Haven't Made A Contribution Yet!
:-) Dear Listers, If you received this particular Matronics List Email message, its because you haven't yet made a Contribution to support your Lists! Implemented for the first time last year, the Matronics system selectively sends out the Contribution messages to those that forgot to whip out the 'ol credit card this year to support the continued operation and upgrade of the Matronics Email Lists! Don't you wish PBS worked that way? :-) You heard that right. Once you make your Contribution, these support requests messages during November will suddenly stop coming to your personal email inbox! I wanted to implement something like this for a number of years, but it was always such a daunting task to modify the back-end List processing code, that I just kept putting it off. Finally last year, I just decided to bite the bullet and put the code-pounding time it to make it work. A few days later, bam! A working system! I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware and software that are required to run a List Site like this. It also goes to pay for the commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the rather huge electric bill to keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered up. I run ALL of the Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which allows me to control and monitor every aspect of the system for the utmost in reliably and performance. Your personal Contribution matters because when combined with other Listers such as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up and running. I accept exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand the pop-up ads and all other commercialism that is so prevalent on the Internet these days and I particularly don't want to have it on my Email List site. If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator [Please note the following regarding the selective posting system. There are certain circumstances where you might still see a Contribution related message. These situations include if someone replies to one of the messages, or when using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum. Since most of these are anonymous public access methods, there is no simple way to filter them.] ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 11, 2007
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Post Mortem - Matronics List Pummeled By Spam...
Dear Listers, Over a 3-day period, Thursday 11/8 though Saturday 11/10, the Matronics Lists were pummeled with over 450,000 spam emails causing posting delays and a few duplicate messages. Yeah, I really said nearly half a million spams! The good news is that I don't believe a single one of them actually made it to the Lists thanks to the aggressive List filtering code and the Barracuda spam filter. The bad news was that it caused quite a back log of email messages starting Friday and continuing until late Saturday when I noticed that delivery seemed a bit sluggish. By about 11pm on Saturday night, I had managed to get the backlog cleared out of the spam filter by temporarily adjusting some of the filtering. A check of the queues this morning, and everything looks like its working great and there are no incoming filtering delays and spam levels appear to be back to "normal". There were a number of people asking what was going on, so I thought that I'd send out a follow up post mortem on the event... November is the annual List Fund Raiser. Your contribution directly enables me to buy systems like the Barracuda spam filter that keep the List free of that garbage. Please make a contribution to support your Lists! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Carl Froehlich" <carl.froehlich(at)cox.net>
Subject: Sensenich Prop and finished, painted Van's RV spinner for sale
Date: Nov 11, 2007
I recently replaced my Sensenich 72FM8S9-1-84 on my RV-8A with a Hartzell prop. I'm selling the Sensenich prop, prop spacer, prop bolts, spinner and spinner SS hardware as a package. Here are the details: Sensenich 72FM8S9-1-84 Prop. 350 hours total on my RV-8A (O-360 A1A). I bought it new from Van's. It is in perfect condition, never hit, never anything, The package includes everything to bolt on the prop and spinner. The spinner was painted when I did the plane, 'Midnight Pearl Blue" using PPG base cost/clear coat. If you don't like the color, repaint is easy as all the pin hole work is done. The spinner hardware consists of #8 SS flat head screws and #6 SS tinnermans drilled out and re-dimpled to #8 screw. I found using the smaller tinnermans allow for much cleaner, flush fit along the contour of the spinner. Package price: $1400 Carl Froehlich 540 371-8482 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 13, 2007
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: List of Contributors
Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its sort of my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors (LOC)? As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems at least - if not a whole lot more - valuable as a building/flying/recreating/entertainment tool as your typical magazine subscription! Please take minute and assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by popping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics PO Box 347 Livermore CA 94551-0347 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Russell Lassetter" <rblassett(at)alltel.net>
Subject: Construction/Restoration
Date: Nov 14, 2007
Hello all, I would like to offer my aircraft construction/restoration services to the group. I have a 40' X 60' hangar in NE Georgia and have a lifetime of experience with various aircraft. I can construct large projects for $15.00 per hour with first-class workmanship. Please email me directly or give me a call. Russ Lassetter 202 Aviation Blvd. Cleveland, GA 30528 706-348-7514 rblassett(at)alltel.net ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 15, 2007
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Value of the List...
If you look forward to checking your List email everyday (and a lot of you have written to say that you do!), then you're probably getting at least 0 or 0 worth of Entertainment from the Lists each year. You'd pay twice that for a subscription to some lame magazine or even a dinner out. Isn't the List worth at least that much to you? Wouldn't it be great if you could pay that amount and get a well-managed media source free of advertising, SPAM, and viruses? Come to think of it, you do... :-) Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support the Lists? Contribution Page: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Again, I want to say THANK YOU to everyone that has made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser!! These Lists are made possible exclusively through YOUR generosity!! Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Admin. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Alan Smith" <alsmith(at)olemac.net>
Subject: Re: Value of the List...
Date: Nov 15, 2007
Unscribe ----- Oeriginal Message ----- From: "Matt Dralle" <dralle(at)matronics.com> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 2:15 AM Subject: RV6-List: Value of the List... > > If you look forward to checking your List email everyday (and a lot of you > have written to say that you do!), then you're probably getting at least 0 > or 0 worth of Entertainment from the Lists each year. You'd pay twice that > for a subscription to some lame magazine or even a dinner out. Isn't the > List worth at least that much to you? Wouldn't it be great if you could > pay that amount and get a well-managed media source free of advertising, > SPAM, and viruses? Come to think of it, you do... :-) > > Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support > the Lists? > > Contribution Page: > > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > Again, I want to say THANK YOU to everyone that has made a Contribution > thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser!! These Lists are made > possible exclusively through YOUR generosity!! > > Thank you for your support! > > Matt Dralle > Email List Admin. > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Chuck Daus" <dauscj(at)nb.net>
Subject: Converting a 6/A to a 6
Date: Nov 17, 2007
Hello, I have been thinking about this for a while and I think I should have purchased a 6 instead of a 6/A. I am about 85% done with my 6/A and have been thinking about where I am going to base this aircraft. With the hangar rents going through the roof I think I want to base it at a local grass strip. So my concern is that the nosewheel / engine mount assy, like most tri gear aircraft is not up to the task of a soft field use. My question is: Has anybody converted a 6/A to a 6? Can it be done? How difficult is it? What do you need to modify or change? Any feedback would greatly be appreciated! Thank you! Chuck ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 17, 2007
From: Tom & Cathy Ervin <tcervin(at)embarqmail.com>
Subject: Re: Converting a 6/A to a 6
Chuck, If you have a smooth grass strip I wouldn't concern myself on=C2-b asing the RV6-A there. I fly mine in and out of=C2-well maintained grass strips and find proper technique is whats key. =C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-1)=C2- Keep the stick back as m uch as possible and land it as if it were a tail dragger.......on the mains . =C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- 2) Once the nose wheel touches during roll out apply slow steady back pressure to keep the nose weight as light a s you can without pulling =C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- it off the tur f. =C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- 3) A good instructor would=C2-recommend=C2 -this technique when fling out of grass strips=C2-regardless of the bra nd of nose dragger. KEEP the Nose =C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- Wheel LIGHT! Reasons in my mind to keep the RV6-A approach? =C2-1) Lower insurance rates. =C2-2) Bigger market if you sell. =C2-3) IF....You are a low time pilot the RV6-A will allow you to fly=C2 -on more days with high winds. =C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- By now you have probably guessed I won't be updati ng my nose wheel assembly. The present gear is fine WHEN=C2-used with pro per technique. =C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2 -=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- =C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2 -=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- =C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2 -=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- =C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2 -=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- =C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2 -=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- =C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- Tom in O hio RV6-A=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- =C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- =C2-=C2- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Daus" <dauscj(at)nb.net> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 7:41:34 AM (GMT-0500) America/New_York Subject: RV6-List: Converting a 6/A to a 6 Hello, =C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- I have been thinking about this for a while and I think I should have purchased a 6 instead of a 6/A. I am about 85% done wit h my 6/A and have been thinking about where I am going to base this aircraf t. With the hangar rents going through the roof I think I want to base it a t a local grass strip. So my concern is that the nosewheel / engine mount a ssy, like most tri gear aircraft is not up to the task of a soft field use. My question is: Has anybody converted a 6/A to a 6? Can it be done? How di fficult is it? What do you need to modify or change? Any feedback would gre atly be appreciated! Thank you! Chuck ============= ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "David Burton" <d-burton(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Converting a 6/A to a 6
Date: Nov 17, 2007
Hi Chuck, Lots of people have done this, even Van's. You could give them a call and get the specifics on what you would need to change. I agree with Tom though that finishing your 6A might not be a bad plan. Almost all the factory demo flights were flown off grass in the past. Dave _____ From: owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Daus Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 4:42 AM Subject: RV6-List: Converting a 6/A to a 6 Hello, I have been thinking about this for a while and I think I should have purchased a 6 instead of a 6/A. I am about 85% done with my 6/A and have been thinking about where I am going to base this aircraft. With the hangar rents going through the roof I think I want to base it at a local grass strip. So my concern is that the nosewheel / engine mount assy, like most tri gear aircraft is not up to the task of a soft field use. My question is: Has anybody converted a 6/A to a 6? Can it be done? How difficult is it? What do you need to modify or change? Any feedback would greatly be appreciated! Thank you! Chuck ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 18, 2007
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists...
Just a reminder that November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these great List services!! And pick up a really nice free gift with your qualifying Contribution too! The Contribution Site is fast and easy: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
From: MnwPeeps(at)aol.com
Date: Nov 18, 2007
Subject: Re: Converting a 6/A to a 6
Chuck - I'd convert it. The nosegear strut is the weak point in the a/c. I had one collapse on me, and have also had two occasions of severe shimmying, requiring mainentance. Vans may test on grass, but- duh - one assumes the turf is dry, solid, and in good shape. For an aircraft like this, you don't need a training wheel! Mark ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 18, 2007
From: Jim Blake <jblake43(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Converting a 6/A to a 6
Chuck, I have an RV6 under construction and am planning on changing it to a 6A. Per Van all that is needed is to change the engine mount and gear. I have the mount and gear. Perhaps we could swap. If you have any interest please email me directly. Jim Blake jblake43(at)bellsouth.net ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "David Burton" <d-burton(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Converting a 6/A to a 6
Date: Nov 18, 2007
I believe that Chuck would need to change his rear bulkhead to mount the tailwheel... Dave -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Blake Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 6:13 PM Subject: Re: RV6-List: Converting a 6/A to a 6 Chuck, I have an RV6 under construction and am planning on changing it to a 6A. Per Van all that is needed is to change the engine mount and gear. I have the mount and gear. Perhaps we could swap. If you have any interest please email me directly. Jim Blake jblake43(at)bellsouth.net ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "c.ennis" <c.ennis(at)insightbb.com>
Subject: Re: Converting a 6/A to a 6
Date: Nov 19, 2007
If Chuck hasn't ordered his fuselage kit yet...the 6A fuselage comes with the proper rear bulkhead changes. Charlie ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 20, 2007
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: [Please Read] Why I Have A Fund Raiser...
Dear Listers, Each year I like to explain why I have a Fund Raiser and also take the opportunity to express why I think the List Services here provide a superior experience over the commercial equivalents. I use the List Fund Raiser each year to offset the costs involved with running a high performance email list site such as this one. With the annual support from the List members through the PBS-like Fund Raiser, I have found I can run the entire site without having to inflect any of the members with those annoying banner ads flashing up all the time trying to sell little-blue-pills or other garbage nobody wants or needs. From the comments I've received over the years regarding the Lists, the great majority of the members really appreciate the non-commercialism of my List systems and don't mind my 'go-team-go' banter once a year during November to encourage members to support the Lists. I believe that the Lists services that I provide here offer many benefits over the commercial equivalents in a number of ways. The first feature I believe to be significant is that you cannot receive a computer v*rus from any of these Lists directly. Each incoming message is filtered and dangerous attachments stripped off prior to posting. I also provide a Photo and File Share feature that allows members to share files and bitmaps with other members and everyone can be assured that these files will be prescanned for any sort of v*rus before they are posted. More recently, I have enabled limited posting of a number of file formats including pictures and PDFs. Another very important feature of this system in my opinion is the extensive List Archives that are available for download, browsing, and searching. The Archives go all the way back to the very beginning of each List and with the very fast Search Engine, the huge size of some of the Archives is a non-issue in quickly finding the data you're looking for. And added just a couple of years ago is the new Email List Forum that allows members who prefer the Web BBS-style of List interaction. The beauty of the new List Forums is that they contain the exact same content that is distributed via email. Messages posted via email are cross-posted to the respective Forum and vice versa. The Forums also allow for another convenient method of sharing pictures and other files (http://forums.matronics.com ). Additionally, added recently is the List Wiki that allows members to build their own "Online List Encyclopedia" of sorts, documenting various aspects of their project for all to share ( http://wiki.matronics.com ). I've been running email Lists and services under the matronics.com domain since about 1989 starting with RV-List and 30 guys I knew and who where also building RVs. It has grown into nearly 70 different aviation-related Email Lists and an associated web site that receives over 34,000,000 hits each year!! Additionally, the List Email system forwarded well over 77,000 postings last year, accounting for an unbelievable 33,000,000 (yes, that's 33 MILLION) email messages delivered to Matronics List subscribers! I think there's a lot of value in supporting a service that has gone the long haul and is still providing and improving a high quality service all _without any advertising budget_! I have to admit running these Lists is a labor of love and I hope it shows in the quality of the experience that you receive when you get a List Email Message, Search the Archives, use the List Browser, or surf the Forums and Wiki sites. The Lists will be here for a long time to come. If you just want to lurk a while for free, that's great and I encourage you to do so. If you use, appreciate, and receive value from these Lists, then please support them during the Annual List Fund Raiser! List Contribution Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Converting a 6 to a 6a
From: Doug Gray <dgra1233(at)bigpond.net.au>
Date: Nov 20, 2007
> Chuck, I have an RV6 under construction and am planning on changing > it > to a 6A. Per Van all that is needed is to change the engine mount and > gear. I have the mount and gear. Do not overlook the comment on drawing 31 saying "Note: Install F-6101 instead of F-654 & F-655 if building the tri-gear." Presumably the tri-gear is referring to the 6A ... ;)! I am surprised Vans did not mention this as it is a significant change. Perhaps the -6 family has already fallen off their radar. Doug Gray ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 22, 2007
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: What Are You Thankful For...?
Dear Listers, Here in the United States, Thursday is our National day of Thanksgiving. Many of us will be traveling to be with our families and friends to share in generous feasts of plenty and giving thanks for many blessings that have been bestowed upon us. Many Listers have expressed over the last couple of weeks how thankful they are for the Email Lists and Forums here on the Matronics servers and for all of the assistance and comradery they have experienced being a part of the Lists. One of my favorite kind of comments is when write to me and says something like, "Its the first thing I do in the morning while I'm having my morning coffee!". That's a wonderful tribute to the purpose and function of these Lists. Its always great to hear I'm not the only one that jumps out of bed each morning to check my List email!! Won't you take a minute today and show your appreciation for these Lists and for their continued operation and upgrade? The List Contribution Site is: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you in advance for your kind consideration, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 24, 2007
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Comments
Dear Listers, Below are a few more of the nice comments Listers have been making along with their Contributions in support of the Lists this year. Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these services. Remember, there is _no advertising budget_ to keep these Lists funded. It is solely through your generosity that they continue. Please make a Contribution: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ------------------------------What Listers Are Saying------------------------------ The list has been invaluable in the building of my Zenith CH701. George R Thanks for keeping the lists a non-commercial venue for us to gather and share knowledge. Neal G What a fantastic resource! Ralph C It's a pretty cheep troubleshooting tool with and unlimited resource of personal knowledge. Bruce G A full house of Info & Ideas... Ellery B I really enjoy the Piet list. Steven D The Lists are an indispensable resource for those of us building OBAM aircraft. Bret S ..a great service. Frank D ..all in all it is a great resource if you ask specific questions. Richard S Your list has really helped me in my first build. Michael W Always a pleasure to support this great resource... Richard W I enjoy the lists very much, they are very beneficial. Bob L Great place to chat with other builders and Flyers. Ellery B Your lists are a great service to builders and owners! Richard D A real good place for someone that is starting to get interested into flying without investing any money at first. Ellery B The list has been an great help to my building process. David B I'm close to finishing my Zenith 601 thanks to you and the Zenith List. Jeff D ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 26, 2007
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published Dec
1! Dear Listers, The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! On December 1st I post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. As a number of people have pointed out in their Contribution comments, these Lists seems at least as valuable of a building/flying/recreating tool as a typical your magazine subscription! And how interactive is a magazine, after all? Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matronics / Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore CA 94551-0347 USA (Please include your email address on the check!) I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 27, 2007
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: [Please Read] What are "The Lists" and Who's This Matt Dralle?
Dear Listers, Who is Matt Dralle and what exactly are these Lists? Well, I've been working in the information technology industry for nearly 25 years primarily in computer networking design and implementation. I have also done extensive work in web development and CGI design during that time, along with some embedded system development as well. I started the Matronics Email Lists back in 1990 with about 30 fellow RV builders from around the world. Since that time, I have added 63 other kinds of aircraft related Lists to the line up and numerous other List related services such as the Forums, Wiki, Archives and Search Engine just to name a few. For flexibility and reliability, I have chosen to run all of my own servers here locally. Other List-related systems include a 1 Gigabit, fully switched network infrastructure, a commercial-grade Netscreen firewall, a Barracuda spam filter, a local T1 Internet router, and a commercial-grade business T1 Internet connection with full static addressing. The computer servers found here include a quad-processor Xeon Linux server for List web services, a dual-processor Xeon Linux system dedicated to the email processing List functions, and another P4 Linux system serving as a remote storage disk farm for the archives, databases, and for an on-line hard drive-based backup system with 3.2 Terra Bytes of storage! This entire system is protected by three large, commercial-grade uninterrupted power supply (UPS) systems that assure the Lists are available even during a local power outage! Speaking of power, imagine how much electricity it takes to run all of these systems. One month last Summer, I had a staggering $1368 bill for electricity alone! I recently upgraded all of the computer racking infrastructure including new power feeds and dedicated air conditioning for the room that serves as the Computer Center for the Matronics Email Lists. Last year I added another rack to house the MONSTER quad-processor web system that didn't quite fit into the first rack! Here's a composite photo of the List Computer Center before the addition of the second rack: http://www.matronics.com/MattDralle-ListComputerCenter.jpg As you can see, I take running these Lists very seriously and I am dedicated to providing an always-on, 24x7x365 experience for each and every Lister. But building and running this system isn't cheap. As I've stated before, I don't support any of these systems with commercial advertising on the Lists. It is supported 100% through List member Contributions! That means you... and you... and YOU! To that end, I hold a List Fund Raiser each November and ask that members make a small Contribution to support the continued operation and upgrade of this ever-expanding system. Its solely YOUR Contributions that keeps it running! Won't you please take a moment to make a Contribution to support these Lists! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matronics / Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore CA 94551-0347 USA (Please include your email address on the check!) There are some great gifts available with qualifying Contribution levels too! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 28, 2007
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Wow! A Ton of Comments!
Dear Listers, I've been getting a ton of great comments from Listers along with their List Support Contributions lately! I've shared a bunch more below. Please read over some of them and see what your fellow Listers think of the Lists and Forums. There are just a couple more days left before the official end of this year's Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution today to support the continued upgrade and operation of these services. There are still lots of awesome gifts available, so browse the extensive selection and pickup a nice item along with your qualifying Contribution. http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you in advance for your generous support! It is very much appreciated! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ----------- What Listers Are Saying About The Lists ----------- In the big picture, you are most certainly saving lives. The fact that you do it at a very good level of service, quality, and simplicity is just icing on the cake. We all owe you a debt of gratitude. Bruce M Can't go a single day without reading my lists. Even when I am overseas. Terry W Best list ever. No comparison. Johann J I get the digest for the two lists I subscribe to each morning -- they go great with my coffee! I can't tell you how much I've learned from this great service... Mark S ..great lists, best on the Net! Robert S It is very nice to enjoy a SPAM free list. Ken L You run a great list. Makes a builder feel like there's lots of help out there for the asking, and it's appreciated. Steve T The list is a very valuable resource. Thomas S You run a good list. James G Thanks for a great forum. Jimmy Y Thanks for a well-maintained list(s). Michael M Great job! Worth every penny! Stephen T Helps me learn and think about issues I didn't know I didn't know. Martin H I find the list very useful... Robert F What you do provides me with daily contact with a passion of my life, aviation. Wendell M ..the list it is very valuable information. Dwayne H ..a great service to homebuilders. Andrew H I have learned quite a lot from reading the Forums. I have been reading at the forum pages and I like the way it works. Ron L [The List] makes a builder feel like there's lots of help out there for the asking, and it's appreciated. Steve T The list service many purposes, not the least of which is motivation to join my fellow RVer in completing my project and getting in the air. John S Thanks for running a great site. Its simplicity is its greatness. Don't know how I would have been successful without it. Timothy F ..terrific service to experimental and general aviation. James F You have a well run operation. I am happy to support what you do. Mark S A wonderful service to the GA community. David M Great list - let's keep it ad-free! Ben C They have been of great help, learning and friendship for all the members Worldwide. Great job of yours, a little idea that grew really big and wonderful. Gary G ..a thoroughly enjoyable and informative List. John W A GREAT LEARNING TOOL!! Dwayne Y This is a very well-run list and it is a valuable resource for the Pietenpol enthusiast. Graham H Thanks for running this great site - helps those of us on the east of the pond keep in touch. Malcolm H Thanks for the major contribution to my continuing education program. Oldbob S I'm just getting started in the building process & find Matronics to be the most valuable site. Scott D Without the information and encouragement from the listers my project would have been sitting in the corner of my shop collecting dust long ago. Now it's almost ready for final assemble and covering. Edward G Great List. No Ads, just RV-10 builders. Keep it going. Rick E Wonderful source of info for building & flying... Graham H The Yak-list is a superb single source to get answers to questions on the operation of these aircraft. Craig W This list is valuable to everyone and your hard work is very much appreciated. Jim S ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 29, 2007
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just Two Days Left...
Dear Listers, There are just a couple days left for this year's List Fund Raiser. Over all, participation has been good, but things have been pretty slow this week for some reason. If you've been putting off making your Contribution until the last minute, this is it! The last minute, that is... :-) Please remember that there isn't any sort of commercial advertising on the Lists and the *only* means of keeping these Lists running is through your Contributions during this Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution today! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 30, 2007
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser!
Dear Listers, Its November 30th and that means a couple of things. Its my 44th birthday for one, but I'm trying to forget about that... But, it also means that its that last official day of the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser! If you been drooling over one of the really sweet free gifts that are available this year with a qualifying Contribution, then now is the time to jump on one!! If you've been meaning to make a Contribution, but just keep putting it off, then now is the time! I will be posting the List of Contributors in a few days, so you'll probably want to be known as a person that supported the Lists! Rather than the guy that, er, ah, forgot (or whatever)... :-) I want to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution so far this year in support of our Lists. It is your generosity that keeps this operation a float and I don't ever forget it. Hopefully everyone will feel the same. The List Contribution page is fast and easy. Please support our habit by making your Contribution right now: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you all in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 06, 2007
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Matronics List Fund Raiser - 2007 List of Contributors
Dear Listers, I would like to thank everyone that made a Contribution in support of the Lists this year! It was really nice to hear all great comments people had regarding the Lists! As I have said many times before, running these Lists is a labor of love. Your generosity during the List Fund Raiser underscores the great sentiments people have made regarding the Lists. If you haven't yet made a Contribution in support of this year's Fund Raiser please feel free to do so. The great List Fund Raiser gifts will be available on the Contribution site for just a little while longer, so hurry and make your Contribution and get your great gift! Once again, the URL for the Contribution web site is: http://www.matronics.com/contribution I would like to thank Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore ( http://www.buildersbooks.com ), Jon Croke of Homebuilt HELP ( http://www.homebuilthelp.com ) and Bob Nuckolls of AeroElectric ( http://www.aeroelectric.com ) for their extremely generous support during this year's Fund Raiser through the contribution of discounted merchandise. These are great guys that support the aviation industry and I encourage each and every Lister to have a look at their products. Thank you Andy, Jon and Bob!! Your support is very much appreciated! And finally, below you will find a web link to the 2007 List of Contributors current as of 12/6/07! Have a look at this list of names as these are the people that make all of these List services possible! I can't thank each of you enough for your support and great feedback during this year's Fund Raiser! THANK YOU! http://www.matronics.com/loc/2007.html I will be shipping out all of the gifts in the next few weeks and hope to have everything out by the end of the month. In most cases, gifts will be shipped via US Postal Service. Once again, thank you for making this year's List Fund Raiser successful! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 11, 2007
From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: Nosewheel pant brackets
Folks, I'm trying to verify if the original "two brackets per side" have been replaced by a single bracket per side (U-713C-L and U-713C-R). It should be held on by a single 3/8"x24x3/4" allen screw with washer/lockwasher on each side and hooks around the axel bolt. My understanding is that the new brackets allow easier maintenance without disassembling the nosewheel to fork assembly. Are there other parts in this assembly? My earlier kit does not have the newer parts and I would like to do things easier. I think drawing C2 has probably been updated too...... Thanks in advance, Ralph Capen ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 11, 2007
From: "Bert Murillo" <bertrv6(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Nosewheel pant brackets
On 12/11/07, Ralph E. Capen wrote: > > Folks, > > I'm trying to verify if the original "two brackets per side" have been replaced by a single bracket per side (U-713C-L and U-713C-R). It should be held on by a single 3/8"x24x3/4" allen screw with washer/lockwasher on each side and hooks around the axel bolt. My understanding is that the new brackets allow easier maintenance without disassembling the nosewheel to fork assembly. > > Are there other parts in this assembly? My earlier kit does not have the newer parts and I would like to do things easier. I think drawing C2 has probably been updated too...... > > Thanks in advance, > Ralph Capen > > Rasph: > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Ron Lee" <ronlee(at)pcisys.net>
Subject: Re: Nosewheel pant brackets
Date: Dec 11, 2007
It is ONE bracket per side. Each bracket has four "tabs" that are attached to the aft nose wheelpant. I had to use flox to fill gaps and used #8 nutplates/screws to attach the tabs to the wheelpant Ron Lee ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Bob-tcw" <rnewman(at)tcwtech.com>
Subject: Safety-Trim Group Buy
Date: Dec 11, 2007
Dear Fellow RV Builders, TCW Technologies and SteinAir are pleased to announce a group buy is now available on our new servo trim controller. Safety-Trim is an electronic trim servo controller that resolves the issues with run-away trim conditions plus it provides 2 speed trim operation as well as greatly simplified switch wiring. For all the detail please follow this direct link: http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=24478 Thank you, Bob Newman TCW Technologies www.tcwtech.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Ed Hollestelle" <ed(at)solairecanada.com>
Subject: RE: RV6-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 12/14/07
Date: Dec 15, 2007
Does anybody have any experience with the ECI Titan EXP IOX-340 "stroker" kit engine? Does the Titan EXP fuel injection work as advertised? What prop would be suitable for this? Ed. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV6-List Digest Server Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 2:58 AM Subject: RV6-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 12/14/07 * ================================================= Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================= Today's complete RV6-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the RV6-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 07-12-14&Archive=RV6 Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 2007-12-14&Archive=RV6 =============================================== EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive =============================================== ---------------------------------------------------------- RV6-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 12/14/07: 0 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "J. Brunke" <jdoody727(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: RE: RV6-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 12/14/07
Date: Dec 15, 2007
Dear Ed, If you Google Robbie Attaway or Attaway Air, he might be able to help you. John Brunke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Hollestelle" <ed(at)solairecanada.com> Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 10:19 AM Subject: RV6-List: RE: RV6-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 12/14/07 > > Does anybody have any experience with the ECI Titan EXP IOX-340 "stroker" > kit engine? Does the Titan EXP fuel injection work as advertised? > What prop would be suitable for this? > Ed. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV6-List Digest > Server > Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 2:58 AM > To: RV6-List Digest List > Subject: RV6-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 12/14/07 > > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete RV6-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the RV6-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter > 07-12-14&Archive=RV6 > > Text Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter > 2007-12-14&Archive=RV6 > > > =============================================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > =============================================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > RV6-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Fri 12/14/07: 0 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Bob-tcw" <rnewman(at)tcwtech.com>
Subject: Safety-Trim Group Buy
Date: Dec 28, 2007
First I would like to thank all the builders who have signed up for the group buy. We appreciate your business and look forward to serving you. We hope you all have had a safe and enjoyable holiday season. This is the final weekend of the Vansairforce group buy for our Safety-Trim servo controller. Over 140 builders have signed up and will receive the full $100 discount on the 2 axis controller and $50 discount on the single axis controller. If you haven't signed up yet the promotion continues until the Dec 31. Other important notes. We've added a few more applications notes on our web site including details on the wiring harness available for use with Safety-Trim. Lastly, we are now selling an airspeed switch that is field adjustable between 55 and 140 knots and is perfect for triggering the 2 speed function on Safety-Trim. group buy link: http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=24478 Best regards, Bob Newman TCW Technologies www.tcwtech.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: MnwPeeps(at)AOL.COM
Date: Jan 09, 2008
Subject: Cockpit smoke
Periodic completed in early Dec. on my -6A, by an experienced GA mech/pilot. Flew the a/c 30 minutes to home base in MA. Two weeks later, within 10 seconds of first (next) start-up, oily smoke fills cockpit - had to quickly open tilt. Continued for about 45 sec. to a minute, then the smoke ceased and hi-pwr turn-up was fine. Shut down. Waited about ten days ('til yesterday), fired it up again, same result. No ramp drip. My mech is mystified. I, personally, have not had this occur in 50 years of flying a/c of all type. Mech is now in FL for two months. Anybody had similar, with an idea for the owner? Thanks - George **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Ron Lee" <ronlee(at)pcisys.net>
Subject: Re: Cockpit smoke
Date: Jan 09, 2008
First thing I would do is remove the cowling and investigate. If you have not done this then DO NOT fly until you identify and resolve the problem. Ron Lee ----- Original Message ----- From: MnwPeeps(at)aol.com To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 8:31 AM Subject: RV6-List: Cockpit smoke Periodic completed in early Dec. on my -6A, by an experienced GA mech/pilot. Flew the a/c 30 minutes to home base in MA. Two weeks later, within 10 seconds of first (next) start-up, oily smoke fills cockpit - had to quickly open tilt. Continued for about 45 sec. to a minute, then the smoke ceased and hi-pwr turn-up was fine. Shut down. Waited about ten days ('til yesterday), fired it up again, same result. No ramp drip. My mech is mystified. I, personally, have not had this occur in 50 years of flying a/c of all type. Mech is now in FL for two months. Anybody had similar, with an idea for the owner? Thanks - George ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: MnwPeeps(at)AOL.COM
Date: Jan 09, 2008
Subject: Re: Cockpit smoke
In a message dated 1/9/2008 12:20:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, ronlee(at)pcisys.net writes: First thing I would do is remove the cowling and investigate. If you have not done this then DO NOT fly until you identify and resolve the problem. Yeah, thanks, Ron. My thoughts, too - - but it is rather cold up here, with no hgr space. I'm sort of a candy-ass, as fingers begin to freeze. I was hesitant to go through the drill, and then, being inexperienced in mechanical work, to not see anything identifiable. I'm thinking I'd like something to suggest to my mech (surprised he has no ideas....he's a good mech, best as I know). But I suppose I'll just have to get some locals experts to look at it. It's odd that it flew well from the NH "button-up" to here at my MA base....but then began smoking. I guess one might have to suppose it very possibly is not related to the so-called annual. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 09, 2008
From: <kbob(at)cox.net>
Subject: Re: Cockpit smoke
Check the crankcase breather tube over the exhaust system. It may be soaking the exhaust pipe with oil and burning off on start up. At idle power on the ground you can get plenty of exhaust in the cabin. Have somebody stand by when you start it again and see if they can detect any external smoke. If it repeats itself, shut down and go look for the smoke trail to find the culprit. Kelly Patterson RV-6A N716K PHX, AZ ---- Ron Lee wrote: > First thing I would do is remove the cowling and investigate. If you > have not done this then DO NOT fly until you identify and resolve > the problem. > > Ron Lee > ----- Original Message ----- > From: MnwPeeps(at)aol.com > To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 8:31 AM > Subject: RV6-List: Cockpit smoke > > > Periodic completed in early Dec. on my -6A, by an experienced GA mech/pilot. > > Flew the a/c 30 minutes to home base in MA. > > Two weeks later, within 10 seconds of first (next) start-up, oily smoke fills cockpit - had to quickly open tilt. > Continued for about 45 sec. to a minute, then the smoke ceased and hi-pwr turn-up was fine. Shut down. > > Waited about ten days ('til yesterday), fired it up again, same result. No ramp drip. My mech is mystified. > I, personally, have not had this occur in 50 years of flying a/c of all type. > > Mech is now in FL for two months. Anybody had similar, with an idea for the owner? > > Thanks - George > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Cockpit smoke
Date: Jan 09, 2008
I'm not a mechanics , however, it sounds to me like you have an oil leak which slowly accumulates a bunch over several days, then when you fire it up, the oil creates the smoke until it is depleted. Could be a leak internal to the engine example intake or exhaust valve (I would bet on intake) leaking into the induction tubes and then being sucked into the pistons and burned. Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: MnwPeeps(at)aol.com To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 10:31 AM Subject: RV6-List: Cockpit smoke Periodic completed in early Dec. on my -6A, by an experienced GA mech/pilot. Flew the a/c 30 minutes to home base in MA. Two weeks later, within 10 seconds of first (next) start-up, oily smoke fills cockpit - had to quickly open tilt. Continued for about 45 sec. to a minute, then the smoke ceased and hi-pwr turn-up was fine. Shut down. Waited about ten days ('til yesterday), fired it up again, same result. No ramp drip. My mech is mystified. I, personally, have not had this occur in 50 years of flying a/c of all type. Mech is now in FL for two months. Anybody had similar, with an idea for the owner? Thanks - George ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Ron Lee" <ronlee(at)pcisys.net>
Subject: Re: Cockpit smoke
Date: Jan 09, 2008
It may have taken that amount of time for something to develop. Find a hangar, remove the cowl and look for loose hoses, particularly oil carrying hoses. It may be something else but without looking, don't expect answers. Ron Lee It's odd that it flew well from the NH "button-up" to here at my MA base....but then began smoking. I guess one might have to suppose it very possibly is not related to the so-called annual. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: MnwPeeps(at)aol.com
Date: Jan 09, 2008
Subject: Re: Cockpit smoke
In a message dated 1/9/2008 2:25:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com writes: it sounds to me like you have an oil leak which slowly accumulates a bunch over several days, then when you fire it up, the oil creates the smoke until it is depleted. Could be a leak internal to the engine example intake or exhaust valve (I would bet on intake) leaking into the induction tubes and then being sucked into the pistons and burned. Thanks, Ed. I certainly agree with the slow-accumulation theory. I'll go out with another guy, fire it up, see what we see from an external view. Shouldn't be a biggie. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Cockpit smoke
Date: Jan 10, 2008
From: jerry2dt(at)aol.com
Ron Lee said it best, and let me second it... DO NOT FLY THIS AIRCRAFT. Until you get it sorted by yourself or someone who knows what they are doing. My .02 of course... Jerry ________________________________________________________________________ http://webmail.aol.com ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 02/19/08
Date: Feb 20, 2008
From: jerry2dt(at)AOL.COM
Hi Robert, This list is pretty dead, and I think most everybody just posts on the main RV list at matronics.com and/or vansairforce.com Jerry Cochran From: bert murillo <robertrv607(at)yahoo.com> Subject: RV6-List: Exp2bus Hi: I hope this message goes to the rv6list....I have placed a message before, but did not get any response. Has the list changed, as to how to subscribed... I do not see any messages from the rv6 list, *I see some for the 7 and mostly for the rv10.... what is happening there? How can I subscribe to the Rv- south east list?, something happened to my system I guess.. I will post the question later, once I know is being published to the list.... robert rv6a ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "J. Brunke" <jdoody727(at)comcast.net>
Subject: tip up canopy
Date: Mar 24, 2008
Cleaning Oil off the raw CowlDear Listers, Looking for words of wisdom on installing the tip canopy pistons. It seems relatively straight foward, but I've been wrong before. Are the measurements in the drawings accurate? Also, the instructions that came with the pistons mention using foam and fiberglass to increase the rigidity of the side rails. Has anyone done this and did you notice a difference. Thanks in advance, John Brunke RV7- tip up almost tipping up. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Kelly Patterson" <kbob(at)cox.net>
Subject: Re: tip up canopy
Date: Mar 24, 2008
Cleaning Oil off the raw CowlI put the pistons in the stock location and it works well. Couple tips: Buy the canopy frame stiffening kit from Vans and forget about the foam and glass. It rivets to the forward portion and really does the trick. Standard on the new kits - should be with your -7?. Plan on trimming a lot of the canopy frame where it passes over the instrument panel. There is not a lot of clearance there. I also trimmed the .75 angle top stiffener edge of the instrument panel to get adequate clearance. The pistons will push the canopy forward about .125" and it will bind with the fuselage skin ahead. Make the final trimming with the pistons on to get the fit right. The piston supports are a bear to get the nuts started on the back side. I don't know an easy way. Have fun with it! Kelly Patterson N716K RV-6A PHX, AZ ----- Original Message ----- From: J. Brunke To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 6:35 PM Subject: RV6-List: tip up canopy Dear Listers, Looking for words of wisdom on installing the tip canopy pistons. It seems relatively straight foward, but I've been wrong before. Are the measurements in the drawings accurate? Also, the instructions that came with the pistons mention using foam and fiberglass to increase the rigidity of the side rails. Has anyone done this and did you notice a difference. Thanks in advance, John Brunke RV7- tip up almost tipping up. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "J. Brunke" <jdoody727(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: tip up canopy
Date: Mar 24, 2008
Cleaning Oil off the raw CowlThanks Kelly, I have the canopy frame stiffening kit. John ----- Original Message ----- From: Kelly Patterson To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 7:08 PM Subject: Re: RV6-List: tip up canopy I put the pistons in the stock location and it works well. Couple tips: Buy the canopy frame stiffening kit from Vans and forget about the foam and glass. It rivets to the forward portion and really does the trick. Standard on the new kits - should be with your -7?. Plan on trimming a lot of the canopy frame where it passes over the instrument panel. There is not a lot of clearance there. I also trimmed the .75 angle top stiffener edge of the instrument panel to get adequate clearance. The pistons will push the canopy forward about .125" and it will bind with the fuselage skin ahead. Make the final trimming with the pistons on to get the fit right. The piston supports are a bear to get the nuts started on the back side. I don't know an easy way. Have fun with it! Kelly Patterson N716K RV-6A PHX, AZ ----- Original Message ----- From: J. Brunke To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 6:35 PM Subject: RV6-List: tip up canopy Dear Listers, Looking for words of wisdom on installing the tip canopy pistons. It seems relatively straight foward, but I've been wrong before. Are the measurements in the drawings accurate? Also, the instructions that came with the pistons mention using foam and fiberglass to increase the rigidity of the side rails. Has anyone done this and did you notice a difference. Thanks in advance, John Brunke RV7- tip up almost tipping up. href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-List">http://www.matronics .com/Navigator?RV6-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Mar 29, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Two New Lists Added to the Matronics Lineup!
Dear Listers, I've added two new Email Lists to the Matronics List and Forum lineup today. These include the Rans-List and RV12-List. Please surf over to the Matronics List Subscription page and sign up for these new Lists if they are of interest to you: http://www.matronics.com/subscribe Full support on the Forums, List Browse, Archives, etc. is available. Rans-List: http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Rans-List RV12-List http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV12-List Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Apr 26, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Four New Email Lists At Matronics!!
Dear Listers, I have added four new Lists to the Matronics line up today. These include the following categories: Citabria-List Citabria, Decathlon, Scout, and Champ Zenith601-List Zenair Zodiac CH 601 Zenith640-List Zenair Zodiac CH 640 Zenith701801-List Zenair STOL CH 701 and CH 801 All services are enabled and now available including Search, Browse, Digest, Archives, Forums, Chat, etc., etc. etc...: Citabria: http://www.matronics.com/navigator?citabria-list Zenith601: http://www.matronics.com/navigator?zenith601-list Zenith640: http://www.matronics.com/navigator?zenith640-list Zenith701801: http://www.matronics.com/navigator?zenith701801-list To subscribe, go to the Matronics Email List Subscription Form: http://www.matronics.com/subscribe To check the new Lists out on the Matronics Forum go here: http://forums.matronics.com Enjoy the new Lists!! Don't forget me during the Fund Raiser! :-) Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Apr 30, 2008
Subject: Looking for Frank Justice manual section
From: wild1ranch(at)wild1ranch.com
Im looking for the section "remove from the jig" all the links I find seem to be broken. thanks for your help Bill Slow build RV6 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Looking for Frank Justice manual section
Date: Apr 30, 2008
From: "Schroeder, Bob (Parts Clerk)" <BSchroeder(at)rideuta.com>
The printed text? -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of wild1ranch(at)wild1ranch.com Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 8:23 AM Subject: RV6-List: Looking for Frank Justice manual section Im looking for the section "remove from the jig" all the links I find seem to be broken. thanks for your help Bill Slow build RV6 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Apr 30, 2008
From: "S Hamer" <s.hamer(at)verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Looking for Frank Justice manual section
Bill, It's a very short section. Here's what it says: Removing the Fuselage from the Jig Decide how you are going to support the fuselage once you take it out of the jig. One really handy way is to make bolt-on front legs. Make a couple of wood strips about 7 1/2" wide and 24" long, then drill them to bolt where the main spar goes but extending out about 8" outside the skin. Nail 29" legs to these and you will have your main longeron 45" off the floor when you turn the fuselage over. Make a skinny sawhorse for the rear. If you made the imitation wing for mounting -6A gear legs you can cut them down for this. These legs make it extremely unlikely that you knock the fuselage over accidentally. Remove all the clamps and bolts holding the fuselage in, lift it off, and set it upright. End The next section is "Assorted Small Steps". I hope this helps. Steve Hamer RV-6 flying Apple Valley, Ca ----- Original Message ----- From: <wild1ranch(at)wild1ranch.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 7:23 AM Subject: RV6-List: Looking for Frank Justice manual section > > Im looking for the section "remove from the jig" all the links I find > seem to be broken. > > thanks for your help > > Bill > Slow build RV6 > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Steve Wieland" <wheelstoo(at)msn.com>
Subject:
Date: Apr 30, 2008
Hi Folks.....I'm interested in an RV6-A in Seattle WA..... is there anyone that can help me with a look at it before purchase.....I'm a non-mechanic ex-airline/ ex-fighter guy in NC...thanks!! Steve ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject:
Date: Apr 30, 2008
From: "BPA" <BPA(at)bpaengines.com>
Steve, Not sure if they have the time, but contact Butch or Brian at Showplanes. They are in Medford Oregon. They might be able to help or direct you to someone who can. Allen Barrett BPE, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve Wieland Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 10:30 AM Subject: RV6-List: Hi Folks.....I'm interested in an RV6-A in Seattle WA..... is there anyone that can help me with a look at it before purchase.....I'm a non-mechanic ex-airline/ ex-fighter guy in NC...thanks!! Steve ________________________________________________________________________________
From: MnwPeeps(at)AOL.COM
Date: Apr 30, 2008
Subject: Re:
Steve - If that one doesn't look so good, or doesn't work out, you might give me a yell. I have a 6-A that is casually for sale - Boston area. New Engine, prop. I'm also ex-mil and ret. airline. _flmr123(at)aol.com_ (mailto:flmr123(at)aol.com) **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) ________________________________________________________________________________
From: George Frost <ghfrost(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: Conical engine mount
Date: Apr 30, 2008
I might as well try this again. I have a Lycoming conical engine mount and gear legs for an RV_6. Anyone using an early 0-320? ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Apr 30, 2008
From: Henry <aeroncadoc(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: e: RV6-List:
Hello Steve: I'm based in Seattle. If you tell me where the plane is, exactly what you want me to look at (a checklist would be perfect) and let the seller know my email address, I can go look at it for you, fly it if need be, and send digital pix if you don't already have them from the seller. Henry Hochberg RV6 KAWO N72224 Mooney 252 KPAE N252MK Steve Wieland wrote: > Hi Folks.....I'm interested in an RV6-A in Seattle WA..... is there > anyone that can help me with a look at it before purchase.....I'm a > non-mechanic ex-airline/ ex-fighter guy in NC...thanks!! > Steve > * > > > * ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 01, 2008
From: "James Clark" <jclarkmail(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Conical engine mount
We use an O-320 with conical mount (B2B I think). Is there some other question? James On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 5:08 PM, George Frost wrote: > > I might as well try this again. I have a Lycoming conical engine mount and > gear legs for an RV_6. Anyone using an early 0-320? > > -- This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at james(at)nextupventures.com . ________________________________________________________________________________
From: George Frost <ghfrost(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Conical engine mount
Date: May 01, 2008
I should have said I am not using it. I found an engine requiring a dynafocal 2 mount and the conical is for sale. Anyone need one? On May 1, 2008, at 4:48 AM, James Clark wrote: > We use an O-320 with conical mount (B2B I think). > > Is there some other question? > > James > > > On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 5:08 PM, George Frost > wrote: > > I might as well try this again. I have a Lycoming conical engine > mount and gear legs for an RV_6. Anyone using an early 0-320? > > > -- > This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at james(at)nextupventures.com > . > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 01, 2008
Subject: Re: Looking for Frank Justice manual section
From: wild1ranch(at)wild1ranch.com
Thanks Steve, Sounds like I'm not missing much! :-) Thanks all for your responses. Bill > > Bill, > > It's a very short section. Here's what it says: > > Removing the Fuselage from the Jig > > Decide how you are going to support the fuselage once you take it out of > the > jig. One really handy way is to make bolt-on front legs. Make a couple > of > wood strips about 7 1/2" wide and 24" long, then drill them to bolt where > the main spar goes but extending out about 8" outside the skin. Nail 29" > legs to these and you will have your main longeron 45" off the floor when > you turn the fuselage over. Make a skinny sawhorse for the rear. If you > made the imitation wing for mounting -6A gear legs you can cut them down > for > this. These legs make it extremely unlikely that you knock the fuselage > over accidentally. > > Remove all the clamps and bolts holding the fuselage in, lift it off, and > set it upright. > End > > The next section is "Assorted Small Steps". > > I hope this helps. > > Steve Hamer > RV-6 flying > Apple Valley, Ca > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <wild1ranch(at)wild1ranch.com> > To: > Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 7:23 AM > Subject: RV6-List: Looking for Frank Justice manual section > > >> >> Im looking for the section "remove from the jig" all the links I find >> seem to be broken. >> >> thanks for your help >> >> Bill >> Slow build RV6 >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 03, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: For Sale - Navaid AP-1 Autopilot - New!
Fellow Homebuilders, I have decided to go with a two-axis auto pilot in my RV-4 project and am selling my single-axis Navid AP-1. This is a brand new unit with all of accessories, manual, analog Loran/GPS input, and S-2 servo. It has never been installed. No scratches. Current price from Navaid is $1300 US. I will sell for $1100 plus shipping to anywhere in the world. I can accept Visa/MC. First come, first served. Please email me off list at dralle(at)matronics.com if you are interested. Below is a picture of the actual unit and included accessories. Matt Dralle List Admin / RV-4 Builder Emacs! ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "ray atkinson" <raybot(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Re:
Date: May 03, 2008
Hi Steve I live in seattle and also own a rv-6a and could possibly go hava a look and take some pictures for you. I also can recommend a mechanic/rv builder if you need a proffesional opionion. e-mail me at raybot(at)comcast.net or call my cell at 425 765 6826 ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Wieland To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 9:30 AM Subject: RV6-List: Hi Folks.....I'm interested in an RV6-A in Seattle WA..... is there anyone that can help me with a look at it before purchase.....I'm a non-mechanic ex-airline/ ex-fighter guy in NC...thanks!! Steve ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Checked by AVG. 5/2/2008 4:34 PM ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 09, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: For Sale - RMI uMonitor - NEW - All Probes and Upgrades!
Dear Listers, I am selling a new, never used, fully assembled RMI uMonitor with all the probes for a 4-cylinder engine including Fuel Flow, 4ea EGT, 4ea CGT, Carb Temp, and Manifold pressure. The uMonitor just had all of the latest hardware and software updates factory installed including the new high contrast LCD display supporting Fahrenheit temp readings AND the new LED fiberoptic backlight. Also included is the Aircraft Extras RM-1B plugin harness extender for the uMonitor which greatly simplifies the wiring installation. The uMonitor is in new condition with no scratches and all installation material and manuals. The pictures below are of the actual unit for sale. The table below lists all of the items included. I have nearly $2800 invested in this complete system. I will sell it for $2200 plus shipping to anywhere in the world. I can accept Visa/MC. First come, first served. Please email me off list at dralle(at)matronics.com if you are interested. Matt Dralle List Admin / RV-4 Builder 1ea - RMI microMONITOR Assembled . . . . . . . . . . . . . .$1299.00 $1299.00 1ea - Factory Upgrade of LCD (Fahrenheit Temp Display), . . . . Fiberoptic LED Backlight, Latest Firmware. . . . . .$ 399.00 $ 399.00 1ea - Manifold Pressure Sensor 10.0 to 59.0 InHg. . . . . . $ 68.00 $ 68.00 2ea - EGT/CHT Multiplex Switch 2 to 6 cylinders . . . . . . $ 60.00 $ 120.00 1ea - Fuel Flow sensor, FloScan 201B-6 - .6 to 60.0 GPH. . .$ 230.00 $ 230.00 1ea - Carb Temp Sensor . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .$ 55.00 $ 55.00 4ea - EGT Thermocouple - tubing clamp type . . . . . . . . .$ 65.00 $ 260.00 4ea - CHT Thermocouple - bayonet type. . . . . . . . . . . .$ 50.00 $ 200.00 1ea - RM-1B Harness Expander, Aircraft Extras. . . . . . . .$ 155.00 $ 155.00 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $2786.00 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 09, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: For Sale - Skyforce Skymap IIIC - NEW - Latest Database
Dear Listers, I am selling my new-in-box Skyforce Skymap IIIC full color GPS moving map with Topo. The database and firmware were just upgraded 05/2008. Includes a Panel Mounting bracket, GPS Antenna, cigarette lighter adapter, carrying case, and all manuals. Brand new, never used. No scratches. The pictures below are of the actual unit. The LCD color display on the IIIC is extremely nice and very bright. Gives altitude readout. RS232 output. I have over $2500 invested in this complete system. I will sell it for $2200 plus shipping to anywhere in the world. I can accept Visa/MC. First come, first served. Please email me off list at dralle(at)matronics.com if you are interested. Matt Dralle List Admin / RV-4 Builder 1ea - Skyforce Skymap IIIC w/ GPS and Americas Database. . .$2367.00 . .$2367.00 1ea - Panel Mount. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .$98.00 . . .$98.00 1ea - Firmware and Database Update 5/8/2008. . . . . . . . . .$50.00 . . .$50.00 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $2515.00 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 09, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: For Sale - RMI uEncoder - NEW - Assembled
Dear Listers, I am selling a new, never used, fully assembled RMI uEncoder. The uEncoder just had all of the latest hardware and software updates factory installed including the new high contrast LCD display supporting Fahrenheit temp readings AND the new LED fiberoptic backlight. The uEncoder displays airspeed, altitude, fpm, OAT, and outputs Mode C data for most transponders. The uEncoder is in new condition with no scratches and all installation material and manuals. The pictures below are of the actual unit for sale. The table below lists all of the items included. I have nearly $1500 invested in this complete system. I will sell it for $1100 plus shipping to anywhere in the world. I can accept Visa/MC. First come, first served. Please email me off list at dralle(at)matronics.com if you are interested. Matt Dralle List Admin / RV-4 Builder 1ea - RMI microENCODER ASSEMBLED . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .$1179.00 . $1179.00 1ea - RMI Factory Upgrade of LCD (Fahrenheit Temp, US Miles), . . . . . . Fiberoptic LED Backlight, Latest Firmware . . . . . $ 315.00 . $ 315.00 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .$1494.00 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Dennis Holbrook" <dholbrook7(at)cox.net>
Subject: autopilots
Date: May 11, 2008
I've convinced myself that an autopilot is now a 'must have' item. The apparent choices seem to be Trio's EZpilot, or TruTrac's Pictoral Pilot II. Any Pro/Con comments on either. Or alternatives. Dennis RV6 - SE VA ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 11, 2008
From: Mike Divan <n343fd(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: autopilots
I have come to the same conclusion for my 6 and had the same question and would be interested in everyones input also. There are people I have the highest respect for some have Trios and some have TruTrac all have opinions it seems to be like tip up or slider, trike or tail dragger - go with what ya like. I noticed Dynon now has a AP and I was thinking of putting a Dynon in my 6 so ????? When I have a hard time deciding I just go FLY and forget about it :) Mike Divan N64GH - RV6,flying :) SLOW 7 Builder :( EAA - 577486 FREEDOM IS NOT FREE - THANK THE AMERICAN SOLDIER FOR YOURS! ----- Original Message ---- From: Dennis Holbrook <dholbrook7(at)cox.net> Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 6:59:37 PM Subject: RV6-List: autopilots I've convinced myself that an autopilot is now a 'must have' item. The apparent choices seem to be Trio's EZpilot, or TruTrac's Pictoral Pilot II. Any Pro/Con comments on either. Or alternatives. Dennis RV6 - SE VA Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 11, 2008
From: "David Leonard" <wdleonard(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: autopilots
There are more choices: The navaid (it does work), Dynon and Bluemountain all also have autopilots. (Though I agree that you have probably narrowed your search to the best 2. Never heard anyting bad negative about either. Sorry for being non-helpful. :-) David Leonard On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 6:59 PM, Dennis Holbrook wrote: > I've convinced myself that an autopilot is now a 'must have' item. The > apparent choices seem to be Trio's EZpilot, or TruTrac's Pictoral Pilot II. > Any Pro/Con comments on either. Or alternatives. > > Dennis > RV6 - SE VA > > * > > * > > -- David Leonard Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net http://RotaryRoster.net ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Ron Lee" <ronlee(at)pcisys.net>
Subject: Re: autopilots
Date: May 11, 2008
Just be aware that apparently Trio has a wing leveler/altitude hold in one unit coming out soon. Ron Lee ----- Original Message ----- From: Dennis Holbrook To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 7:59 PM Subject: RV6-List: autopilots I've convinced myself that an autopilot is now a 'must have' item. The apparent choices seem to be Trio's EZpilot, or TruTrac's Pictoral Pilot II. Any Pro/Con comments on either. Or alternatives. Dennis RV6 - SE VA ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "J. R. Dial" <jrdial@hal-pc.org>
Subject: autopilots
Date: May 12, 2008
I normally don't get into these what is better deals but my dealings with Tru Trac have been excellent. The product does just what they say or maybe even better and the customer service is the best. Dick Dial RV6 89DD -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Holbrook Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 9:00 PM Subject: RV6-List: autopilots I've convinced myself that an autopilot is now a 'must have' item. The apparent choices seem to be Trio's EZpilot, or TruTrac's Pictoral Pilot II. Any Pro/Con comments on either. Or alternatives. Dennis RV6 - SE VA ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Allen Checca" <allen(at)checca.net>
Subject: autopilots
Date: May 12, 2008
I have the TruTrak Digiflight !! and I use it on all cross country flights. They only problem I've had is it doesn't work well when it's cold out. <32 F. I don't know if any others have been tested in cold weather. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Holbrook Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 9:00 PM Subject: RV6-List: autopilots I've convinced myself that an autopilot is now a 'must have' item. The apparent choices seem to be Trio's EZpilot, or TruTrac's Pictoral Pilot II. Any Pro/Con comments on either. Or alternatives. Dennis RV6 - SE VA ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 12, 2008
From: Balone Marine <balone_99(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: For Sale - Navaid AP-1 Autopilot - New!
why so much Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Dennis Holbrook" <dholbrook7(at)cox.net>
Subject: autopilot
Date: May 13, 2008
To the many folks who responded to my autopilot questions... Thanks! All good info on a variety of equipment. Apparently, there is no bad choice... other than not installing an autopilot at all. Dennis ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 14, 2008
From: Roger Edwards <rledwards9(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: autopilots
I use the Trio auto pilot and it works great. I had oscillation problems with the old servo but the new "gold" servo from Trio works fine. The folks at Trio are excellent and give very good service. --- Allen Checca wrote: > I have the > TruTrak Digiflight !! and I > use it on all cross country flights. They only > problem I've had is it > doesn't work well when it's cold out. <32 F. > I don't know if any others have been tested in cold > weather. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com] On > Behalf Of Dennis Holbrook > Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 9:00 PM > To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: RV6-List: autopilots > > > > I've convinced myself that an autopilot is now a > 'must have' item. The > apparent choices seem to be Trio's EZpilot, or > TruTrac's Pictoral Pilot II. > Any Pro/Con comments on either. Or alternatives. > > > > Dennis > > RV6 - SE VA > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: TEST
Date: May 15, 2008
Test, Test! Can't seem to post to the RVsoutheast list. Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: TEST
Date: May 16, 2008
From: "Schroeder, Bob (Parts Clerk)" <BSchroeder(at)rideuta.com>
Loud and clear in salt lake city ________________________________ From: owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ed Anderson Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 6:05 PM Subject: RV6-List: TEST Test, Test! Can't seem to post to the RVsoutheast list. Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Bob-tcw" <rnewman(at)tcwtech.com>
Subject: Re: Electric trim
Date: Jun 13, 2008
Bert, This problem is exactly why we developed Safety-Trim! There are a number of issues that can cause a runaway trim condition as you have described. Two of the most common causes are a stuck or intermittent trim switch or a stuck, corroded, or intermittent relay that drives the trim servo. I had a runaway full deflection down trim condition in my Glastar that caused me to invent, develop and market Safety-Trim. Many RV builders have adopted our products to prevent this condition from occurring. Safety-Trim provides runaway trim prevention by limiting trim actuation to 3 seconds at a time, additionally, it has a two speed feature that allows the trim to move more slowly at high airspeeds and more quickly when the airplane is at lower airspeeds. Safety-Trim is available through our web site, through Vans Aircraft and through Stein Air. For all the detail on how Safety-Trim works please visit our web site. www.tcwtech.com Best regarads, Bob Newman Glastar N99RN RV-10 N541RV finish kit. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 12, 2008
From: lawrence salerno <lawrencesalerno(at)sbcglobal.net>
Subject: alternator problems
Just a note about a problem Iam having with my alternator. I am showing a voltage surge, from 12.5 to 16.0, it is regular every 1 to 2 seconds, any thoughts on what to look for first. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks RV6A, 67MK, Larry Salerno ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "J. Brunke" <jdoody727(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: alternator problems
Date: Jul 12, 2008
Sounds like it could be the voltage regulator. I had one go on my -6. It caused some damage before I could get everything shut off. An overvoltage circuit from B&C would have prevented the spike to my components. One was installed shortly after. It was just a bad regulator. John ----- Original Message ----- From: lawrence salerno To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 8:55 AM Subject: RV6-List: alternator problems Just a note about a problem Iam having with my alternator. I am showing a voltage surge, from 12.5 to 16.0, it is regular every 1 to 2 seconds, any thoughts on what to look for first. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks RV6A, 67MK, Larry Salerno ________________________________________________________________________________
From: George Frost <ghfrost(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: alternator problems
Date: Jul 12, 2008
Larry, I do not know if this applies to you but I have a Nippondenso (Toyota automotive) alternator in my RV-6. While in NM visiting with my son my alternator started behaving similarly to yours. I can't recall how high it surged past 14 but it disturbed me enough re: toasting the battery that I called Van's. They said it was likely the voltage regulator and that it would probably be OK for the trip home to OH. Fortunately I went to the NAPA store and bought a new part anyhow, for installation install when home. On the way to Borger TX, I dealt with the surges by turning the alternator field off and on until it finally did not come back on. When turned on it would go to normal charge and then creep up again. At Borger, with no charge I had to install the new part. No A&P to borrow tools from but a friendly guy came by with a pickup and loaned me what I needed to install the new voltage regulator. There are 3 terminals and 2 wires which I thought were connected properly. Not so. So I turned off most electrical stuff. By Guthrie OK, with low battery and no radio, I selected the non controlled field with several A&Ps, but all working on rush jobs, but they loaned me tools so I could finally get the wires right. Guthrie had friendly people, a courtesy car, a nearby motel and barbecue restaurant. Since the new voltage regulator went on I have had no further alternator problem. George On Jul 12, 2008, at 7:55 AM, lawrence salerno wrote: > Just a note about a problem Iam having with my alternator. I am > showing a voltage surge, from 12.5 to 16.0, it is regular every 1 > to 2 seconds, any thoughts on what to look for first. Any help > would be appreciated. Thanks RV6A, 67MK, Larry Salerno > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Richard Dudley" <rhdudley1(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: RV-6A For Sale
Date: Jul 20, 2008
Listers, A combination of health and financial factors have forced our decision to sell our beloved airplane. If you are seriously looking for a beautiful, well-equipped and flying RV-6A read the description below. RV-6A FOR SALE Completed 2005 Total time <140 hrs O-320-D1A Total time since new <140 hrs Hartzell C/S Prop total time since new <140 hrs Slider Great paint Garmin GNS 430 nav/com SL-30 nav/com Garmin GTX 327 Transponder Garmin GMA 340 Audio panel Dual CDI IFR panel, heated pitot Dual Duckworks landing/taxi lights with Wig-Wag S-Tech System 20 auto pilot New main tires Always hangared March 2008 annual Asking: :$100K Serious buyers contact me for photos and more details off line at: rhdudley1(at)bellsouth.net Richard Dudley Orlando, FL ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Richard Dudley" <rhdudley1(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: RV-6A For Sale (revised)
Date: Jul 27, 2008
Listers, My re-review of the market suggests a revision of asking price. This is one more try here before going to other locations to advertise. A combination of health and financial factors have forced our decision to sell our beloved airplane. If you are seriously looking for a beautiful, well-equipped and flying RV-6A read the description below. RV-6A FOR SALE Completed 2005 Total time <140 hrs O-320-D1A Total time since new <140 hrs Hartzell C/S Prop total time since new <140 hrs Slider Great paint Garmin GNS 430 nav/com SL-30 nav/com Garmin GTX 327transponder Garmin GMA 340 Audio panel Dual CDI with glideslope and coupling to either Nav IFR panel, heated pitot, certified altimeter, encoder, transponder and pitot static system Dual Duckworks landing/taxi lights with Wig-Wag S-Tech System 20 auto pilot/ turn coordinator New main tires Always hangared March 2008 annual Asking: :$95K Serious buyers contact me off line and I'll send you more details. Richard Dudley rhdudley1(at)bellsouth.net Orlando, FL ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Jon Moore" <jmoore(at)xtremeaccess.com>
Subject: Infinity Grip Wiring
Date: Aug 25, 2008
I have just installed an Infinity Control Stick Grip in my RV-6 (a flying aircraft). The people at Infinity wired my grip to perform the following functions: P-T-T, engine start, flaps, aux. pump on/off, auto-pilot on/off, and elevator trim. I am considering changing one of the grip functions to turning the landing lite on/off. I am currently trying to confirm which circuits need relays, exactly which type of relay, and how to wire them into the respective circuits. Taking them one at a time: STARTER: I currently have a push-button starter in the panel and want to replace it with the switch on the grip. My current system doesn't have a relay in it (to my knowledge), and all the switches in the Infinity grip are designed to take 6 amps. My questions: do I need a relay in this circuit and if so, which type? The S704-1? Or an equivalent? I only question the need for a relay since this starter switch circuit goes to the actual Starter Relay. LANDING LIGHT: I'm already planning on installing a relay in this circuit. I just installed a 35W HID light from Duckworks. I'm told that this light draws about 3 amps. My questions: I'd like confirmation that I should indeed put a relay in this circuit, and which relay it should be. AUX. PUMP: I have a Facet Pump, which I believe is fairly standard in RV's (?). I am not planning on installing a relay at this point. It's my understanding that this pump draws about 1 amp, and I don't have a relay in my current circuit (I'm also planning on hooking the grip switch in parallel with the existing switch so either switch can be used to turn the pump on/off). My question: am I correct in my thinking to not install a relay in this circuit? Note: I have already installed a Ray Allen Relay and Servo for the Elevator Trim. I tried to find any info on wiring the Infinity Grip in the Forum Archives and came up empty. I would greatly appreciate any response to this from other forum members or from Bob Nuckolls himself. Thank you, Jon Moore (new forum member) Boynton Beach, Florida (561) 632-5341 or (561) 731-1899 jmoore(at)xtremeaccess.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Ed Hollestelle" <ed(at)solairecanada.com>
Subject: RE: RV6-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 09/12/08
Date: Sep 13, 2008
I have trimmed my tip-up canopy to the point where it should fit. The problem is that it still sits about 3/8" above the roll-bar (F631)but the bend (sag)in the rear top of the canopy already touches F-632A. I will attach a sketch. All the measurements and spaces are correct. 1. Can the canopy material be heated to flatten out a bit? 2. Should I drop F-632A (glecoed at this stage)? Any suggestions out there? Ed Hollestelle. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV6-List Digest Server Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 2:58 AM Subject: RV6-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 09/12/08 * ================================================= Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================= Today's complete RV6-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the RV6-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 08-09-12&Archive=RV6 Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 2008-09-12&Archive=RV6 =============================================== EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive =============================================== ---------------------------------------------------------- RV6-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 09/12/08: 0 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- ________________________________________________________________________________
From: MnwPeeps(at)aol.com
Date: Oct 03, 2008
Subject: Aerobatic ability
Hello, all - I've had my 6A for a while, but have not been successful determining what the aircraft can safely do - or not do, aerobatically. Without a 'chute, I don't want to be up there, experimenting. Can anyone with experience advise: 1. Am I correct in assuming snaps are ok, as to airframe stress? What might be the best entry speed? I'm guessing around 90 to 110 mph. 2. I gather Vans has suggested rather firmly that we not engage in recreational spins. Why not? Do some of you spin, anyway? What is the risk factor? Aren't just two or three turns ok? 3. What about hammerheads? If the a/c allows them, safely, what are the control movements? With my previous military trainer, it was full pwr, straight up to just below stall, then full right rudder and simultaneous full left aileron, followed by immediate full-forward stick, maintaining the left bias. The trainer would then slowly pitch over, do a gentle half-roll, and proceed straight down. I'm kind of missing that! 4. Is a tailslide (as in "a failed hammerhead") dangerous for the 6A - - over-stressing? I'm getting a tad bored with rolls and loops. Any sage advice would be appreciated. thanks - Mark **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001) ________________________________________________________________________________
From: houndsfour(at)comcast.net
Subject: Re: Aerobatic ability
Date: Oct 03, 2008
Without a chute, you shouldn't be doing any munuvers with a bank angle greater than 60 degrees by faa regs. Rich But dosen't she do a great roll. -------------- Original message -------------- From: MnwPeeps(at)aol.com Hello, all - I've had my 6A for a while, but have not been successful determining what the aircraft can safely do - or not do, aerobatically. Without a 'chute, I don't want to be up there, experimenting. Can anyone with experience advise: 1. Am I correct in assuming snaps are ok, as to airframe stress? What might be the best entry speed? I'm guessing around 90 to 110 mph. 2. I gather Vans has suggested rather firmly that we not engage in recreational spins. Why not? Do some of you spin, anyway? What is the risk factor? Aren't just two or three turns ok? 3. What about hammerheads? If the a/c allows them, safely, what are the control movements? With my previous military trainer, it was full pwr, straight up to just below stall, then full right rudder and simultaneous full left aileron, followed by immediate full-forward stick, maintaining the left bias. The trainer would then slowly pitch over, do a gentle half-roll, and proceed straight down. I'm kind of missing that! 4. Is a tailslide (as in "a failed hammerhead") dangerous for the 6A - - over-stressing? I'm getting a tad bored with rolls and loops. Any sage advice would be appreciated. thanks - Mark New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out!
Without a chute, you shouldn't be doing any munuvers with a bank angle greater than 60 degrees

by faa regs.

Rich

But dosen't she do a great roll.

Hello, all   -

I've had my 6A for a while, but have not been successful determining what the aircraft can safely do - or not do, aerobatically. Without a 'chute, I don't want to be up there, experimenting.

Can anyone with experience advise:

1. Am I correct in assuming snaps are ok, as to airframe stress? What might be the best entry speed? I'm guessing around 90 to 110 mph.

2. I gather Vans has suggested rather firmly that we not engage in recreational spins. Why not? Do some of you spin, anyway? What is the risk factor? Aren't just two or three turns ok?

3. What about hammerheads? If the a/c allows them, safely, what are the control movements? With my previous military trainer, it was full pwr, straight up to just below stall, then full right rudder and simultaneous full left aileron, followed by immediate full-forward stick, maintaining the left bias. The trainer would then slowly pitch over, do a gentle half-roll, and proceed straight down. I'm kind of missing that!

4. Is a tailslide (as in "a failed hammerhead") dangerous for the 6A - - over-stressing?

                            I'm getting a tad bored with rolls and loops. Any sage advice would be appreciated.

                                                                                      thanks   -     Mark

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From: MnwPeeps(at)aol.com
Date: Oct 03, 2008
Subject: Re: Aerobatic ability
In a message dated 10/3/2008 2:17:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, houndsfour(at)comcast.net writes: Without a chute, you shouldn't be doing any munuvers with a bank angle greater than 60 degrees by faa regs. Well, that's constructive! "Munuvers?" How about maneuvers?? Back to your cave, laddie! **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001) ________________________________________________________________________________
From: D1GCC(at)aol.com
Date: Oct 03, 2008
Subject: Re: Aerobatic ability
In a message dated 03/10/2008 20:44:38 GMT Daylight Time, MnwPeeps(at)aol.com writes: maneuvers?? or in the Queen's English "manoeuvres" ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 03, 2008
From: "David Leonard" <wdleonard(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Aerobatic ability
Mark, Lots of stuff about that in the archives. Don't listen to me, check there I have done snap rolls but they are a little a little sketchy because the entry speed window is rather narrow, closer to 75-80 kts as I recall. Work it out by doing accelerated stalls. Make sure your entry speed is less than the speed for a 4G accelerated stall, preferably even slower. It is a supper fun maneuver, but I snapped a rudder chain and also tweaked my rudder doing them, so I have not done any in a while. I also do multi turn spins (even 10 or more turns). I loose oil pressure at around 8 turns (because the lateral forces build up and empty the oil sump). Also supper fun and relatively benign, at least in my plane. I think Vans recommends avioiding them because you never know if one aircraft will behave differently than the next. Also, it is only a matter of time until someone makes an error and burns in. I don't do hammer heads because I never got training in them and it just seems to me that a backslide would be very hard on the rudder. JMHO, -- David Leonard Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net http://RotaryRoster.net On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 10:07 AM, wrote: > Hello, all - > > I've had my 6A for a while, but have not been successful determining what > the aircraft can safely do - or not do, aerobatically. Without a 'chute, I > don't want to be up there, experimenting. > > Can anyone with experience advise: > > 1. Am I correct in assuming snaps are ok, as to airframe stress? What > might be the best entry speed? I'm guessing around 90 to 110 mph. > > 2. I gather Vans has suggested rather firmly that we not engage in > recreational spins. Why not? Do some of you spin, anyway? What is the risk > factor? Aren't just two or three turns ok? > > 3. What about hammerheads? If the a/c allows them, safely, what are the > control movements? With my previous military trainer, it was full pwr, > straight up to just below stall, then full right rudder and simultaneous > full left aileron, followed by immediate full-forward stick, maintaining the > left bias. The trainer would then slowly pitch over, do a gentle half-roll, > and proceed straight down. I'm kind of missing that! > > 4. Is a tailslide (as in "a failed hammerhead") dangerous for the 6A - - > over-stressing? > > I'm getting a tad bored with rolls and loops. > Any sage advice would be appreciated. > > > thanks - Mark > > > ------------------------------ > New *MapQuest Local* shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, > Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out<http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001> > ! > > * > > * > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: MnwPeeps(at)aol.com
Date: Oct 05, 2008
Subject: Re: Aerobatic ability
In a message dated 10/3/2008 11:23:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, wdleonard(at)gmail.com writes: Lots of stuff about that in the archives. Don't listen to me, check there Man **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001) ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 06, 2008
Subject: RV6 : [ Donald Meehan ] : New Email List PhotoShare Available!
From: Email List PhotoShares <pictures(at)matronics.com>
(Listers - Sorry for the delay in processing this Photoshare; all of the incoming Photoshares where getting caught by my email client's spam filter. I wondered why nobody had posted a Photoshare in a long while... I've fixed the filter and Photoshares should be processed in a normal period of time now. -Matt) A new Email List PhotoShare is available: Poster: Donald Meehan Lists: RV-List,RV6-List Subject: RV6A step failure - both sides http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/meehan@wsu.edu.10.06.2008 ---------------------------------------------------------- o Main PhotoShare Index http://www.matronics.com/photoshare o Submitting a PhotoShare If you wish to submit a PhotoShare of your own, please include the following information along with your email message and files: 1) Email List or Lists that they are related to: 2) Your Full Name: 3) Your Email Address: 4) One line Subject description: 5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic: 6) One-line Description of each photo or file: Email the information above and your files and photos to: pictures(at)matronics.com ---------------------------------------------------------- ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Colleen and Brett Herrick" <colleenandbrett(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Installing the Vertical Fin on a RV-6AQ
Date: Oct 18, 2008
After installing the vertical fin on my RV-6AQ I find that the rear edge of the vertical fin is 3/16 - 1/4 inch forward of the rear edge of fuselage skins. I assuming that rear edge of the fuselage skins is to be trimmed to match that of vertical fin. Is this correct? I have not found anything in the plans or instructions that addresses this. Thanks. Brett Herrick Columbus, IN ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Patrick Kelley" <webmaster(at)flion.com>
Subject: Installing the Vertical Fin on a RV-6AQ
Date: Oct 18, 2008
If your rear spar lines up with the rear bulkhead (it must, or how did you mount it?) then everything is fine. Trim the trailing edges to match. I waited until I fit the empennage fairing and then trimmed everything at once. Patrick Kelley - RV-6A - 1st Engine start today!! From: owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Colleen and Brett Herrick Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 12:32 PM Subject: RV6-List: Installing the Vertical Fin on a RV-6AQ After installing the vertical fin on my RV-6AQ I find that the rear edge of the vertical fin is 3/16 - 1/4 inch forward of the rear edge of fuselage skins. I assuming that rear edge of the fuselage skins is to be trimmed to match that of vertical fin. Is this correct? I have not found anything in the plans or instructions that addresses this. Thanks. Brett Herrick Columbus, IN ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Colleen and Brett Herrick" <colleenandbrett(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Installing the Vertical Fin on a RV-6AQInstalling the Vertical
Fin on a RV-6AQ
Date: Oct 19, 2008
Patrick: Congratulations on your first engine start! To locate the vertical fin I placed its rear spar against the rear bulkhead of fuselage, then located the rear spar vertically according to the dimensions on the drawing and finally this spar was orientated 90 degrees to the horizontal stabilizer. The front of the of the vertical stabilizer was positioned to provide good alignment between the rudder and the vertical fin. I'll trim the trailing edge of the fuselage to match the trailing edge of the vertical fin. Thanks for your response. Brett Herrick ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Paul Noyes" <info(at)bigskymartialarts.com>
Subject: Heat and Cowling RV6
Date: Oct 18, 2008
RV Group, I have an RV6, changed the oil today and noticed that the bottom cowling has a bubble about 6" in diameter next to the exhaust where it makes the bend from the manifold (closest point to the cowling), obviously the exhaust is to hot for the cowling at this point, from the out side of the cowling you can also just see the bubble. This is now a weaker area of the cowling; I did not build the airplane and am wondering what I should do about the heat first and then the cowling. The cowling may have been like this since my last oil change and perhaps will be something I deal with down the road. I can not imagine this causing a major failure but will probably just become unsightly to a point where it needs to be fixed. Any feed back is wanted and welcome. Thank you, John Paul Montana ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Jeff Orear <jorear(at)new.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Heat and Cowling RV6
Date: Oct 20, 2008
John: Van's sells a self-adhesive foil heat shield material that you can stick on the inside of the cowl in the area where heat is a factor. Just make sure you clean the area real well so it will adhere. K2R spot remover does real well to suck oil out of the pre-preg type epoxy cowls that Vans now supplies with their kits if that is the type you have. If not, just use naphtha (coleman's lantern fuel) or lacquer thinner. Regards, Jeff Orear RV6A N782P Peshtigo, WI On Oct 18, 2008, at 4:39 PM, John Paul Noyes wrote: > RV Group, > > I have an RV6, changed the oil today and noticed that the bottom > cowling has a bubble about 6=94 in diameter next to the exhaust where > it makes the bend from the manifold (closest point to the cowling), > obviously the exhaust is to hot for the cowling at this point, from > the out side of the cowling you can also just see the bubble. This > is now a weaker area of the cowling; I did not build the airplane > and am wondering what I should do about the heat first and then the > cowling. The cowling may have been like this since my last oil > change and perhaps will be something I deal with down the road. I > can not imagine this causing a major failure but will probably just > become unsightly to a point where it needs to be fixed. Any feed > back is wanted and welcome. > > Thank you, > John Paul > Montana > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-List > http://forums.matronics.com > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Paul Noyes" <info(at)bigskymartialarts.com>
Subject: Heat and Cowling RV6
Date: Oct 20, 2008
Thank you for the suggestion I called Vans this morning and will get the heat shield on, maybe this should be some thing other RV owners should consider before they have a fiberglass issue as I now do. John Paul _____ From: owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Orear Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 8:34 AM Subject: Re: RV6-List: Heat and Cowling RV6 John: Van's sells a self-adhesive foil heat shield material that you can stick on the inside of the cowl in the area where heat is a factor. Just make sure you clean the area real well so it will adhere. K2R spot remover does real well to suck oil out of the pre-preg type epoxy cowls that Vans now supplies with their kits if that is the type you have. If not, just use naphtha (coleman's lantern fuel) or lacquer thinner. Regards, Jeff Orear RV6A N782P Peshtigo, WI On Oct 18, 2008, at 4:39 PM, John Paul Noyes wrote: RV Group, I have an RV6, changed the oil today and noticed that the bottom cowling has a bubble about 6" in diameter next to the exhaust where it makes the bend from the manifold (closest point to the cowling), obviously the exhaust is to hot for the cowling at this point, from the out side of the cowling you can also just see the bubble. This is now a weaker area of the cowling; I did not build the airplane and am wondering what I should do about the heat first and then the cowling. The cowling may have been like this since my last oil change and perhaps will be something I deal with down the road. I can not imagine this causing a major failure but will probably just become unsightly to a point where it needs to be fixed. Any feed back is wanted and welcome. Thank you, John Paul Montana <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-List> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-List <http://forums.matronics.com> http://forums.matronics.com <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://forums.matronics.com style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 01, 2008
From: dralle(at)matronics.com
Subject: Matronics Email List Fund Raiser During November!
Dear Listers, Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operation and upgrade of the List services at Matronics. It's through soley through the Contributions of List members that these Matronics Lists are possible. You have probably noticed that there are no banner ads or pop-up windows on any of the Matronics Lists or related web sites such as the Forums site ( http://forums.matronics.com ), Wiki site ( http://wiki.matronics.com ), or other related pages such as the List Search Engine ( http://www.matronics.com/search ), List Browse ( http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse ), etc. This is because I believe in a List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely Airplanes and not about annoying advertisments. During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every few days reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. I ask for your patience and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages. The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all of the bills associated with running these lists. Your personal Contribution counts. Once again, this year I've got a terrific line up of free gifts to go along with the various Contribution levels. Most all of these gifts have been provided by some of the vary members and vendors that you'll find on Matronics Lists and have been either donated or provided at substantially discounted rates. This year, these generous people include Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric Connection (http://www.aeroelectric.com/), Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore (http://www.buildersbooks.com/), and Jon Croke of HomebuiltHELP (http://www.homebuilthelp.com/). These are extremely generous guys and I encourage you to visit their respective web sites. Each one offers a unique and very useful aviation-related product line. I would like publicly to thank Bob, Andy, and Jon for their generous support of the Lists again this year!! You can make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods this year including using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. All three methods afford you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying Contribution amount!! To make your Contribution, please visit the secure site below: https://www.matronics.com/contribution I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral support over the years. I know it sounds a little cliche, but you guys really do feel like family. Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 01, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Contribution Site URL Clarification
Dear Listers, In my List Fund Raiser kickoff email last night, I mistyped the URL for the *initial* Contribution web site and couple of people reported receiving SSL certificate errors. The actual payment entry pages where were correct, however, so there were no certificate issues that impacted payment data. I'm sorry for the confusion. Please use the following URL to start your List Contribution: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 01, 2008
From: bert murillo <robertrv607(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Heat and Cowling RV6
jOHN:- YOU CAN USE THE ALUMINUM SHEETS- HOME DEPOT SELLS, FOR HOME INSULATION I BELIEVE. - CHEAPER THAN VAN'S,,SAVE SHIPPING TOO. i USED IT- WORKS GREAT... SOME OF THE- FELLOWS AROUND MY AIRPORT SUGGESTED TO ME ALSO, THEY ONLY PUT STRIP, ALONG SIDE THE LENGTH OF THE MUFFLER,- ON BOTH SIDES...IN OTHER WORDS COVERS THE AREA BOTH SIDES INSIDE THE COWLING, WHERE THE HEAT WILL DAMAGE THE FIBERGLASS... - NO NEED TO COVER THE ENTIRE COWLING,, BUT- I DID, IT AT THE TIME.. - ANOTHER SUGGESTION - ROBERTY - RV6A --- On Mon, 10/20/08, John Paul Noyes wrote: From: John Paul Noyes <info(at)bigskymartialarts.com> Subject: RE: RV6-List: Heat and Cowling RV6 Date: Monday, October 20, 2008, 1:37 PM Thank you for the suggestion I called Vans this morning and will get the he at shield on, maybe this should be some thing other RV owners should consid er before they have a fiberglass issue as I now do. - John Paul - From: owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv6-list-server@mat ronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Orear Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 8:34 AM Subject: Re: RV6-List: Heat and Cowling RV6 - John: - Van's sells a self-adhesive foil heat shield material that you can stick on the inside of the cowl in the area where heat is a factor. -Just make su re you clean the area real well so it will adhere. -K2R spot remover does real well to suck oil out of the pre-preg type epoxy cowls that Vans now s upplies with their kits if that is the type you have. -If not, just use n aphtha (coleman's lantern fuel) or lacquer thinner.- - Regards, - Jeff Orear RV6A -N782P Peshtigo , WI - - - On Oct 18, 2008, at 4:39 PM, John Paul Noyes wrote: RV Group, - I have an RV6, changed the oil today and noticed that the bottom cowling ha s a bubble about 6=94 in diameter next to the exhaust where it makes the be nd from the manifold (closest point to the cowling), obviously the exhaust is to hot for the cowling at this point, from the out side of the cowling y ou can also just see the bubble.- This is now a weaker area of the cowlin g; I did not build the airplane and am wondering what I should do about the heat first and then the cowling.- The cowling may have been like this si nce my last oil change and perhaps will be something I deal with down the r oad.- I can not imagine this causing a major failure but will probably ju st become unsightly to a point where it needs to be fixed.- Any feed back is wanted and welcome. - Thank you, John Paul Montana -http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-Listhttp://forums.matroni cs.comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution -http://forums.matronics.coms tyle="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.matronics.com /contribution - - - href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-List">http://www.matronics.c om/Navigator?RV6-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c =0A=0A=0A ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 03, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists...
Dear Listers, Just a reminder that November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these great List services!! Pick up a really nice free gift with your qualifying Contribution too! The Contribution Site is fast and easy: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 05, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: List Fund Raiser
A couple of years ago I implemented an automatic "squelch button" of sorts for the Fund Raiser messages. Here's how it works... As soon as a List member makes a Contribution through the Matronics Fund Raiser web site, he or she will instantly cease to receive these Fund Raiser messages for the rest of the month! Its just that simple. Don't you wish PBS worked that way! :-) I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware and software that are required to run a List Site like this. It also goes to pay for the commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the huge electric bill to keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered on. I run all of the Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which allows me to control and monitor every aspect of the system for the utmost in reliably and performance. Your personal Contribution matters because, when combined with other Listers such as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up and running. I accept exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand the pop-up ads and all other commercials that are so prevalent on the Internet these days and I particularly don't want to have it on my Email List sites. If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator [Note that there are certain circumstances where you might still see a Contribution related message. For example, if someone replies to one of the messages, when using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum. The system keys on the given email address and since most of these are anonymous public access methods, there is no simple way to filter them.] ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 06, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Reminder
Dear Listers, Just a quick reminder that November is the annual List Fund Raiser. The Matronics Lists are 100% member supported and all of the operational costs are provided for my your Contributions during this time of the year. Your personal Contribution makes a difference and keeps all of the Matronics Email Lists and Forums completely ad-free. Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 10, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Fund Raiser List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution
Today! Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its sort of my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors (LOC)? As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems at least - if not a whole lot more - valuable as a building/flying/recreating/entertainment tool as your typical magazine subscription! Please take minute and assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics PO Box 347 Livermore CA 94551-0347 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 12, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists
Dear Listers, There is no advertising income to support the Matronics Email Lists and Forums. The operation is supported 100% by your personal Contributions during the November Fund Raiser. Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution too! You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore, CA 94551-0347 Thank you in advance for your generous support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 14, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Fund Raiser Lagging Last Year By Over 30%...
As of the 13th, the Fund Raiser is currently about 30% behind last year in terms of the number of Contributions. Yet, oddly the number of messages posted per day is up by 10 to 20% on the average. It costs real money to run these Lists and they are supported 100% though your Contributions during the Fund Raiser. Won't you please take a minute right now to make your Contribution to keep these Lists up and running? Contribution Page: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Admin. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 16, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: What's My Contribution Used For?
Dear Listers, Some have asked, "What's my Contribution used for?" and that's a good question. Here are just a few examples of what your direct List support enables. It provides for the very expensive, commercial-grade T1 Internet connection used on the List insuring maximum performance and minimal contention when accessing List services. It pays for the regular system hardware and software upgrades enabling the highest performance possible for services such as the Archive Search Engine, List Browser, and Forums. It pays for 19+ years worth of online archive data available for instant random search and access. And, it offsets the many hours spent writing, developing, and maintaining the custom applications that power this List Service such as the List Browse, Search Engine, Forums, Wiki and PhotoShare. But most importantly, your List Contribution enables a forum where you and your peers can communicate freely in an environment that is free from moderation, censorship, advertising, commercialism, SPAM, and computer viruses. How many places on the Internet can you make all those statements these days? It is YOUR CONTRIBUTION that directly enables these many aspects of these valuable List services. Please support it today with your List Contribution. Its one of the best investments you can make in your Sport... List Contribution Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Ed Hollestelle" <ed(at)solairecanada.com>
Subject: RE: RV6-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 11/15/08
Date: Nov 16, 2008
I would be interested to see some check lists of other RV-6 pilots.... We have an RV-6 with a 200HP IO-360, Hartzell CS, electric flaps, electric aileron and elevator trim. Ed Hollestelle. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV6-List Digest Server Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 2:58 AM Subject: RV6-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 11/15/08 * ================================================= Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================= Today's complete RV6-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the RV6-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 08-11-15&Archive=RV6 Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 2008-11-15&Archive=RV6 =============================================== EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive =============================================== ---------------------------------------------------------- RV6-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 11/15/08: 0 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 18, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: What Members Are Saying...
Dear Listers, November is the Annual Matronics List Fund Raiser. The Lists are supported solely through your generous Contributions during this time. Please make your Contribution today and pick up a really nice free gift at this same time: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Listers have been including some really nice comments regarding what the Lists mean to them along with their Contributions this year. I've included a few of them below. Please read them over and see if some perhaps echo your feelings as well. Thank you for your support this year! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Best bargain in the entire industry!! -Owen B Every year your lists are better, sure #1 in e-mail list in the world. -Gary G Thank you for an awesome site! -Ashley M Your lists are important to me and well worth paying for. -Calvin A Thank you for providing such and informative and ad free environment to learn by. -Myron H As always, a valuable and extremely useful resource. Stephen T As always, a great service. -Reade G Very much appreciate this site and the communications it has enabled between builders. -Larry M This service is worth every penny. -Robert S Great site! Thanks a ton for its functionality! -Peter B The RV-10 list feels like my community. -Dave S The lists are fantastic, a great source! -Jimmy Y I've learned a lot from the List. -Gabriel F A wonderful resource. -Gerald G Well done. -Richard N Years of good service. -William M Valuable service. -Keith H The site is quite helpful. -Jon M Very interesting List that I read form the beginning. -Alain L A well managed site. -Carl B Great service. -Svein Kare J Still the most useful program on the computer. -Fergus K Great contribution to my project! -Robert K Thanks for keeping a great list. -Dt G The List continues to provide excellent information. -Tony C This is a wonderful resource that has easily saved me a bunch on my build-time. -Ralph C Thank you for providing a great service. The Zenith builder's community would be in sad shape without the Zenith-List's. -Terrence P I really do get pleasure out of reading the List every day. -Bill V Great source of information. -Arthur V Thanks for a great service. Very enjoyable. -Louis B You know we all could not do without your support!! -James S Great resource! -Douglas D Thanks for the great service. -John B ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 20, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Behind By 21% - Advertising May Be Needed...?
Dear Listers, The percentage of people making a Contribution to support the Lists this year is currently lagging behind last year by approximately 21%! I'm hoping that everyone is just waiting until the last minute to show their support... ;-) Please remember that it is solely your direct Contributions that keep these Lists up and running and most importantly - AD FREE! If the members don't want to support the Lists directly, then I will likely have to start adding advertisements to offset the costs of running the Lists. But I *really* don't want to have to start doing that. I really like the non-commercial atmosphere here and I think that a lot of the members appreciate that too. Please take a moment to make a Contribution today in support of the continued ad-free operation of all these Lists: http://www.matronics.com/contribution I want to send out a word of appreciation to all of the members that have already made their generous Contribution to support the Lists! Thank you! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 20, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Plexiglass Scratch Repair...
Dear Listers, During the fitting of the Plexiglass canopy on my RV-8, I managed to put some pretty disheartening scratches in the windscreen section. You can see from the pictures that they looked pretty bad. A call to Van's revealed that a replacement canopy would be $640 + $250 shipping to California! Ack. So what to do... A bit of surfing and I found this "Scratch Off" windshield repair kit for $35 on the Aircraft Spruce web site: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cspages/scratchoff.php Frankly, it just seemed too good to be true. Nothing for $35 could be that "magic" I thought, but what did I have to lose at this point.... Well, the kit arrived yesterday and I decided to give it a try tonight. In a word: WOW! In about 2 hours the windscreen looked as good as new - no kidding - AS GOOD AS NEW! The pictures really don't do the repair justice. It looks better in person. There are basically two sponges in the kit with four decreasingly porous pastes. You just put some of the first paste on the sponge and buff it in with a drill at 1200 RPM or less. Then you wash everything down good including the sponge and windshield with warm water. Then you use the next finer paste and repeat the process. Etc, etc, until you've used the 4th paste that is kind of like car wax. Frankly, the scratches were gone after the first application of paste - I started at #2 based on the instructions and the "observed severity" of the scratch depth. So, the bottom line is, if you've got scuffs or mild scratches in your Plexiglass buy this repair kit. It works! Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 22, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: LOC
Dear Listers, Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its sort of my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors (LOC)? As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems at least - if not a whole lot more - valuable as a building/flying/recreating/entertainment tool as your typical magazine subscription! Please take minute and assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by popping a personal check in the mail to: Matronics Email Lists c/o Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore CA 94551-0347 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Best regards, Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 24, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Value of the List...
If you look forward to checking your List email everyday (and a lot of you have written to say that you do!), then you're probably getting at least $20 or $30 worth of Entertainment from the Lists each year. You'd pay twice that for a subscription to some lame magazine or even just a single dinner out. Isn't the List worth at least that much to you? Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support the Lists? Contribution Page: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Again, I want to say THANK YOU to everyone that has made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser!! These Lists are made possible exclusively through YOUR generosity!! Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Admin. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Colleen and Brett Herrick" <colleenandbrett(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Question About Installing the Electric Flaps on an RV-6AQ
Date: Nov 25, 2008
I am in the process of installing the electric flaps and I am need of getting some questions answered: 1.) When installing the F-680 Bearing Block after it has been split, are spacers to be placed between to the two halves to fill the gap or is this to be left as an air gap? 2.) Between the Bearing Blocks and flap control tube is this to be lubed (i.e. grease / oil) or left dry? 3.) The F-661EF Bearing Blocks do not fit onto the ends of Wd-613 EF flap control tube as counterbores are 0.010 inch smaller than the ends of the flap control tube. Are the Bearing Blocks to be split, should I open up the counterbores in the F-661 EF bearing blocks or is there something wrong with my parts? 4.) The directions in section Q9 of the Quckbuild manual states that the FF-604 is be 9 1/2 inches forward of F-605 web but drawing EF 6-1 shows this to ~ 10 inches. Which should it be? Finally, I no longer have the false spar that came with the kit (i.e. unfortunately I threw it out not realizing that I would need it later). I now find that this needed for some of the assembly steps. Is it possible to purchase another one? Should I just make one up? Thanks. Brett Herrick RV-6AQ Columbus, IN ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 26, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just A Few More Days...
Dear Listers, There are just a few more days left in this year's List Fund Raiser. There are some great gifts available when you make a qualifying Contribution and there's plenty still available. Don't forget that its *your* Contribution that keeps the computers running, the electricity turned on, and the computer room AC cooling! If you look forward to reading your List email each day, won't you please take a minute right now to make your personal Contribution? Credit Card or Paypal: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Personal Check: Matronics / Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Smcm75(at)aol.com
Date: Nov 26, 2008
Subject: RV series belly/wing tank/cargo pod
Gentleman and Ladies: I have developed the mold and plug for a fiberglass removable belly/wing tank or cargo pod. It is shaped like a WWII P-38 wing tank with a laminar flow cross section and is 52" long by 12" in diameter and holds 14 gals and is fabricated of either fiberglass or carbon fiber. I am soliciting interest to see where I go from here with production plans. This tank/pod with fit on practicall any experimental aircraft high or low wing. Please let me know your interest level. Regards, Scott Morrow **************Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: George Frost <ghfrost(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: RV series belly/wing tank/cargo pod
Date: Nov 26, 2008
What kind of hard points and plumbing will be required and what do you think the price will be? It sounds like a good idea to extend range and reserve safety in IFR conditions. It seems it would be useful for cargo as well but not likely the same unit. What kind of cost for both? Could the hard points work for a ski container as well? Gross weight is of course a factor when using these. On Nov 26, 2008, at 11:33 AM, Smcm75(at)aol.com wrote: > Gentleman and Ladies: > > I have developed the mold and plug for a fiberglass removable belly/ > wing tank or cargo pod. It is shaped like a WWII P-38 wing tank with > a laminar flow cross section and is 52" long by 12" in diameter and > holds 14 gals and is fabricated of either fiberglass or carbon > fiber. I am soliciting interest to see where I go from here with > production plans. This tank/pod with fit on practicall any > experimental aircraft high or low wing. > > Please let me know your interest level. > > Regards, > > Scott Morrow > > > Life should be easicid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000002">Try > the NEW AOL.com. > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Smcm75(at)aol.com
Date: Nov 26, 2008
Subject: Re: RV series belly/wing tank/cargo pod
In a message dated 11/26/2008 11:48:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, ghfrost(at)earthlink.net writes: What kind of hard points and plumbing will be required and what do you think the price will be? It sounds like a good idea to extend range and reserve safety in IFR conditions. It seems it would be useful for cargo as well but not likely the same unit. What kind of cost for both? Could the hard points work for a ski container as well? Gross weight is of course a factor when using these. On Nov 26, 2008, at 11:33 AM, _Smcm75(at)aol.com_ (mailto:Smcm75(at)aol.com) wrote: I have a RV-6A and would be attaching the hard points to the main spar using the tie down ring hole and a doubler and attach point in the rear spar. If it is to be hung under the fusalage it can be mounted to the front and rear spar. I will not be supplying the attachments or plumbing just the tanks/pods **************Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Smcm75(at)aol.com
Date: Nov 26, 2008
Subject: Re: RV series belly/wing tank/cargo pod
The pricing will be directly related to volume of units/interest **************Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: George Frost <ghfrost(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: RV series belly/wing tank/cargo pod
Date: Nov 26, 2008
Let me know when things move along. On Nov 26, 2008, at 12:09 PM, Smcm75(at)aol.com wrote: > The pricing will be directly related to volume of units/interest > > > Life should be easier. > =aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000002">Try the NEW AOL.com. > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Smcm75(at)aol.com
Date: Nov 26, 2008
Subject: Re: RV series belly/wing tank/cargo pod
In a message dated 11/26/2008 12:39:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, ghfrost(at)earthlink.net writes: Let me know when things move along. Wilco **************Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 28, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just 3 Days Left - Please Make Your List Contribution Today!
There are only three days left until the end of this year's List Fund Raiser. Please take a minute to show your support as so many others have this year and make sure YOUR name is on the forthcoming List of Contributors 2008! Its quick and easy using the secure web site with a credit card or PayPal: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by sending your personal check to: Matronics Lists c/o Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore, CA 94551-0347 (Please write your email address on the check!) Thank you in advance for your support of these List services! Matt Dralle Matronics Email and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 29, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: What Listers Have Been Saying
Wow! Many of the members making a List Support Contribution this year have been using the Comments field to leave a personal message about the Lists. Thank you! I have included a number of them below. Please read over a few and see if you perhaps can echo some of the same sentiments regarding the value of the Lists to you... There is only a couple more days left for this year's List Fund Raiser and we're still way behind previous years. If you've been waiting until the last minute to show your support, Now is the Time! Please make your Contribution and pick up a great gift at the same time! By Credit Card or Paypal: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or By Personal Check: Matronics / Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore, CA 94550-7227 Thank you in advance!! Matt Dralle Email List and Forums Administrator Here is some of the great feedback members have been including along with their personal Contributions this year... Over the years, the info I have received from the RV-List has saved me thousands of dollars, and dozens of hours of time by helping me avoid bad purchases, pointing me at vendors with low prices and excellent support, and providing solutions to the typical head scratchers that you run into. Kevin H Valuable service. Best List(s) on the Internet! George A Please accept this token not as an indicator of what this list has been worth to me this past year. Lew G Great information and entertainment. Tim V Thanks again for another great year of service. This project would be beyond me if it were not for the list. Moreover, the friendships I have found are worth their weight in GOLD! Robert B Great support you provide to all the subscribers! Freddie H Read it every day. PF B Thanks for your excellent management of the Matronics Lists! Your services are head and shoulders above the rest. James M Without the "List", there would be no Kolb "community". Bill T Thanks, Matt, for a great service! I've been monitoring and using the lists since 1999. Richard D Thanks for such a terrific site and for all the work and effort you put into it. John R A great service year after year. John D ..another year of fantastic service. Jerry B This list is a great resource. Arden A Great list. James M Lists were a great help while building HRII N561FS. John S Great resources for both the beginner and experienced. George R Good service. Gary G The List is an invaluable resource! William C AeroElectric list is a great source of info and learning! Janice J Thank you, Matt for being there for us making it all happen on the List for so many years - Great JOB! Sam S Thank you for providing a great venue. You definitely hit the nail on the head with your solicitation asking if readers look forward to receiving the email digests. I certainly do and when I move from a dreamer to a builder, I expect the anticipation will only increase. Joe S Thanks for a Perfect working list. Hans-Peter R Great List Bryan K Such a great selection of valuable forums! David G Nice job! Walt E Good resource... Robert P Thank you for another great year! Scott S I could not do this without you... Robert D I believe I've been a list member for over a decade now. Thanks for the service! Tim L Great List Hendrik W ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 30, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Last "Official" Day Of The List Fund Raiser!
Dear Listers, Its November 30th and that means three things:.. 1) Today I am now officially 45 years old... 2) It marks that last "official" day of this year's List Fund Raiser! 3) Its the last day I will be bugging everyone for a whole year! If you use the Lists and enjoy the content and the no-advertising, no-spam, and no-censorship way in which they're run, please make a Contribution today to support their continued operation and upkeep. Your $20 or $30 goes a long way to keep the List bills paid. I will be posting the List of Contributors next week so make sure your name is on it! Thank you to everyone that has made a Contribution so far this year! It is greatly appreciated. http://www.matronics.com/contribution Best regards, Matt Dralle Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 08, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: List of Contributors 2008
Dear Listers, This year's Fund Raiser has drawn to a close and I want to thank everyone that so generously made a contribution this year in support of the Matronics Email List and Forum operation. Your generosity keeps the wheels on this cart and I truly appreciate the many kind words of encouragement and financial reimbursement. If you haven't yet made a Contribution in support of this year's Fund Raiser, please feel free to do so. The great List Fund Raiser gifts will be available on the Contribution site for a little while longer, so hurry and make your Contribution today and still get your great gift! Once again, the URL for the Contribution web site is: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by personal check to: Matronics / Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore CA 94551-0347 I would like to thank Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore ( http://www.buildersbooks.com ), Jon Croke of HomebuiltHELP ( http://www.homebuilthelp.com ) and Bob Nuckolls of AeroElectric ( http://www.aeroelectric.com ) for their extremely generous support during this year's Fund Raiser through the contribution of discounted merchandise. These are great guys that support the aviation industry and I encourage each and every Lister to have a look at their products. Thank you Andy, Jon and Bob!! Your support is very much appreciated! And finally, below you will find a web link to the 2008 List of Contributors current as of 12/7/08! Have a look at this list of names as *these* are the people that make all of these List services possible! I can't thank each of you enough for your support and great feedback during this year's Fund Raiser! THANK YOU! http://www.matronics.com/loc/2008.html I will be shipping out all of the gifts around the end of December. In most cases, gifts will be shipped via US Postal Service. Once again, thank you for making this year's List Fund Raiser successful! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 11, 2008
From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: RV6A N822AR gets airworthiness certificate
Folks, After a five-hour inspection/paperwork session with Bill Meserole (DAR), my aircraft is deemed fit-to-fly the phase one test program (40 hours within a 50nm radius circle, day VFR). Soon I'll have a session with Pierre Smith in GA for some refresher training (I already have my sign-off) - then we'll have a first flight report. Ralph Capen RV6A N822AR 0 hrs ________________________________________________________________________________
From: robert murillo <bmrv09(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: question
Date: Dec 16, 2008
HI: I have an RV6=2C with slider canopy=2C and need to replace the block that h olds the canopy secured=2C at the rear sides. Sory I cannot remember the technical name for this material=2C is the white hard=2C plastic like.... I know I can ordered it from Van's=2C but I tought I could find it some whe re else the shipping would be more than the piece.... Thanks for any information Maurice _________________________________________________________________ Suspicious message? There=92s an alert for that. http://windowslive.com/Explore/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_broa d2_122008 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 16, 2008
From: "James Clark" <jclarkmail(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: question
UHMW Ultra-High Molecular Weight Plastic On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 10:01 PM, robert murillo wrote: > HI: > > I have an RV6, with slider canopy, and need to replace the block that holds > the > canopy secured, at the rear sides. > > Sory I cannot remember the technical name for this material, is the white > hard, > plastic like.... > > I know I can ordered it from Van's, but I tought I could find it some where > else > the shipping would be more than the piece.... > > Thanks for any information > > Maurice > > ------------------------------ > Suspicious message? There's an alert for that. Get your Hotmail(R) account > now.<http://windowslive.com/Explore/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_broad2_122008> > > * > > -- This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at james(at)nextupventures.com . ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 17, 2008
From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: question
You can make your own - with West Epoxy resin and Flox. Tape the front and back of the 'carrier' after coating the innards with mold release wax. Fill the 'carrier' with a not-so-thick mixture of resin and flox. Coat the slider 'poke' pins with mold release wax. After the flox mixture starts to set a little, close the canopy, the pins will poke through the tape and form a perfect pocket - maintaining the proper alignment. One of my canard buddies came up with this as a solution to my concerns about mis-drilling the blocks. I haven't actually done this myself - but with the other experiences that I have had with flox blocks - this should do quite nicely. -----Original Message----- >From: robert murillo <bmrv09(at)hotmail.com> >Sent: Dec 16, 2008 10:01 PM >To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com >Subject: RV6-List: question > > >HI: > >I have an RV6, with slider canopy, and need to replace the block that holds the >canopy secured, at the rear sides. > >Sory I cannot remember the technical name for this material, is the white hard, >plastic like.... > >I know I can ordered it from Van's, but I tought I could find it some where else >the shipping would be more than the piece.... > >Thanks for any information > >Maurice >_________________________________________________________________ >Suspicious message? Theres an alert for that. >http://windowslive.com/Explore/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_broad2_122008 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "M.Marcotte" <m.l.marcotte(at)sympatico.ca>
Subject: Wing-walk anti-slip.
Date: Dec 17, 2008
I have a 10 year old RV-6A that has lost part of its right wing-walk anti-slip covering. Should I glue on a replacement mat like the original or is there a better way to do this, like an anti-slip paint? Thanks. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: robert murillo <bmrv09(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: question
Date: Dec 17, 2008
Thanks James: You would not know where one can buy some ? Maurice Date: Tue=2C 16 Dec 2008 22:35:02 -0500From: jclarkmail(at)gmail.comTo: rv6-li st(at)matronics.comSubject: Re: RV6-List: questionUHMWUltra-High Molecular Wei ght Plastic On Tue=2C Dec 16=2C 2008 at 10:01 PM=2C robert murillo wrote: HI: I have an RV6=2C with slider canopy=2C and need to replace the block th at holds thecanopy secured=2C at the rear sides. Sory I cannot remember the technical name for this material=2C is the white hard=2Cplastic like.... I know I can ordered it from Van's=2C but I tought I could find it some wher e elsethe shipping would be more than the piece.... Thanks for any informa tion Maurice Suspicious message? There's an alert for that. Get your Hotmail=AE account now. -- This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at james@nextupv entures.com . _________________________________________________________________ Send e-mail anywhere. No map=2C no compass. http://windowslive.com/Explore/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_anyw here_122008 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: D1GCC(at)aol.com
Date: Dec 17, 2008
Subject: Re: question
Just google it. You'll find a supplier. Ralph's idea seems good. Graham ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Robert Cutter" <robertcutter(at)sc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: question
Date: Dec 17, 2008
Graham, Most rubber and gasket stores have it. I worked for 6-7 years as a rep for one. They usually carry it in a green and a white color. The white is food grade, but that is what most people buy because they think it looks better. Usually the same price. They will usually cut it to size for you. I used to sell 1/2" thick sheets in 4ft. X 10ft pieces up to 1-1/2 " thick and down to 1/16". Also comes as a rod as well. Most stores will GIVE you small pieces of it if you ask. RVRC Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: D1GCC(at)aol.com To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 3:18 PM Subject: Re: RV6-List: question Just google it. You'll find a supplier. Ralph's idea seems good. Graham ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Maurice B." <bmrv09(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: question
Date: Dec 18, 2008
Thanks for the info. James=2C happy happy Holdidays Date: Tue=2C 16 Dec 2008 22:35:02 -0500From: jclarkmail(at)gmail.comTo: rv6-li st(at)matronics.comSubject: Re: RV6-List: questionUHMWUltra-High Molecular Wei ght Plastic On Tue=2C Dec 16=2C 2008 at 10:01 PM=2C robert murillo wrote: HI: I have an RV6=2C with slider canopy=2C and need to replace the block th at holds thecanopy secured=2C at the rear sides. Sory I cannot remember the technical name for this material=2C is the white hard=2Cplastic like.... I know I can ordered it from Van's=2C but I tought I could find it some wher e elsethe shipping would be more than the piece.... Thanks for any informa tion Maurice Suspicious message? There's an alert for that. Get your Hotmail=AE account now. -- This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at james@nextupv entures.com . _________________________________________________________________ You live life online. So we put Windows on the web. ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Converting a 6 to a 6a
From: "Apik" <lily_f(at)auswww.com>
Date: Feb 06, 2009
The RV-6 made its first flight in 1985. When all the flight testing was done, Van was delighted to find that despite the wide fuselage, it was only three miles per hour slower than the RV-4! The handling qualities and STOL characteristics were so close that a pilot who could not see the altered visual picture caused by sitting off the centerline probably could not tell the RV-4 and RV-6 apart. ...here is my info about RV 6A Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=228827#228827 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 06, 2009
Subject: Re: Converting a 6 to a 6a
From: David Leonard <wdleonard(at)gmail.com>
In light of the rash of bent nose gear and flipped-over aircraft I just cant understand any reason for wanting to switch to tri-gear. [suspend tailwheel bravado] The RV-aircraft have got to be some of the tamest tail-wheel aircraft ever made. IMHO, the only detractor is the reduced visibility during taxi which is not a big deal. Benifits include better looks, better rough field performance, and a slight edge in speed. [resume tailwheel bravado] Why would you ruin a perfictly good airplane with a training wheel? :-) -- David Leonard Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net http://RotaryRoster.net On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 3:52 AM, Apik wrote: > > The RV-6 made its first flight in 1985. When all the flight testing was > done, Van was delighted to find that despite the wide fuselage, it was only > three miles per hour slower than the RV-4! The handling qualities and STOL > characteristics were so close that a pilot who could not see the altered > visual picture caused by sitting off the centerline probably could not tell > the RV-4 and RV-6 apart. ...here is my info about RV 6A > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=228827#228827 > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Converting a 6 to a 6a
Date: Feb 06, 2009
From: "Schroeder, Bob (Parts Clerk)" <BSchroeder(at)rideuta.com>
Too funny! However many bent nose gears there have been, there are only 2 kinds of tail wheel pilots. Those that have and those that will. (you know what I'm talking about) we have a local pilot that has 2 tail wheel aircraft and a tricycle gear bird. He ground looped one last fall and did the same with the other one a couple of weeks ago. So I think that I will continue my tricycle gear 6. Thank you very much. lol From: owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Leonard Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 9:15 AM Subject: Re: RV6-List: Re: Converting a 6 to a 6a In light of the rash of bent nose gear and flipped-over aircraft I just cant understand any reason for wanting to switch to tri-gear. [suspend tailwheel bravado] The RV-aircraft have got to be some of the tamest tail-wheel aircraft ever made. IMHO, the only detractor is the reduced visibility during taxi which is not a big deal. Benifits include better looks, better rough field performance, and a slight edge in speed. [resume tailwheel bravado] Why would you ruin a perfictly good airplane with a training wheel? :-) -- David Leonard Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net http://RotaryRoster.net On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 3:52 AM, Apik wrote: The RV-6 made its first flight in 1985. When all the flight testing was done, Van was delighted to find that despite the wide fuselage, it was only three miles per hour slower than the RV-4! The handling qualities and STOL characteristics were so close that a pilot who could not see the altered visual picture caused by sitting off the centerline probably could not tell the RV-4 and RV-6 apart. ...here is my info about RV 6A Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=228827#228827 Subscription, ://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-List ref="http://forums.matronics.com/" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com p; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. ==== ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Converting a 6 to a 6a
Date: Feb 06, 2009
From: "Robin Marks" <robin1(at)mrmoisture.com>
Bob, You will probably love the A version. I moved from a 4 to a 6A because I regularly fly into commercial airports and the thought of looping the plane and causing a commercial flight to have to go around regardless of zero damage to my aircraft was enough to make me look at the A's. Yes the TW models look cooler and are SLIGHTLY faster and cost more to insure (whoops) but landing an A even in difficult conditions is a dream. I often look like a genius laying down my 6A as clean as can be imagined. I never had that feeling in my TW. If you feel comfortable with a nose wheel (and your manhood) enjoy you're A model. Robin www.painttheweb.com/rv-4 (sold) www.painttheweb.com/RV-6A (500 hours) www.painttheweb.com/RV-10 (in Paint Now) ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 06, 2009
Subject: Re: Converting a 6 to a 6a
From: David Leonard <wdleonard(at)gmail.com>
Yes, but how many *RV* aircraft do you know of that have groundlooped? Although I am sure there are many, I personally only know of 1. While I know of many flipped planes and bent nose forks. Perhaps it is because groundloops are usually relatively minor incidents that often don't make the RV news, but that is part of my point as well. Either way, Good luck David Leonard Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net http://RotaryRoster.net On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Schroeder, Bob (Parts Clerk) < BSchroeder(at)rideuta.com> wrote: > Too funny! However many bent nose gears there have been, there are only 2 > kinds of tail wheel pilots. Those that have and those that will. (you know > what I'm talking about) we have a local pilot that has 2 tail wheel aircraft > and a tricycle gear bird. He ground looped one last fall and did the same > with the other one a couple of weeks ago. So I think that I will continue my > tricycle gear 6. Thank you very much. lol > > > *From:* owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto: > owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *David Leonard > *Sent:* Friday, February 06, 2009 9:15 AM > *To:* rv6-list(at)matronics.com > *Subject:* Re: RV6-List: Re: Converting a 6 to a 6a > > > In light of the rash of bent nose gear and flipped-over aircraft I just > cant understand any reason for wanting to switch to tri-gear. [suspend > tailwheel bravado] The RV-aircraft have got to be some of the tamest > tail-wheel aircraft ever made. IMHO, the only detractor is the reduced > visibility during taxi which is not a big deal. Benifits include better > looks, better rough field performance, and a slight edge in speed. [resume > tailwheel bravado] > > > Why would you ruin a perfictly good airplane with a training wheel? :-) > > -- > David Leonard > > Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY > http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net > http://RotaryRoster.net > > > On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 3:52 AM, Apik wrote: > > > The RV-6 made its first flight in 1985. When all the flight testing was > done, Van was delighted to find that despite the wide fuselage, it was only > three miles per hour slower than the RV-4! The handling qualities and STOL > characteristics were so close that a pilot who could not see the altered > visual picture caused by sitting off the centerline probably could not tell > the RV-4 and RV-6 apart. ...here is my info about RV 6A > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=228827#228827 > > > Subscription, > ://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-List" target="_blank"> > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-List > ref="http://forums.matronics.com/" target="_blank"> > http://forums.matronics.com > p; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > ==== > > > * * > > * * > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-List* > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://forums.matronics.com* > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > > ** > > * * > > * > > * > > -- ________________________________________________________________________________
From: David Cudney <yenduc(at)sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Converting a 6 to a 6a
Date: Feb 06, 2009
Have you checked the insurance rates for tail vs nose draggers???? Set aside the testosterone issue; let it drop. best wishes dave--(bet you guessed it) -RV7A, 55 hours and no ground loops or flip overs so far------------ On Feb 6, 2009, at 8:43 AM, Schroeder, Bob (Parts Clerk) wrote: > Too funny! However many bent nose gears there have been, there are > only 2 kinds of tail wheel pilots. Those that have and those that > will. (you know what I=92m talking about) we have a local pilot that > has 2 tail wheel aircraft and a tricycle gear bird. He ground looped > one last fall and did the same with the other one a couple of weeks > ago. So I think that I will continue my tricycle gear 6. Thank you > very much. lol > > From: owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com > ] On Behalf Of David Leonard > Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 9:15 AM > To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV6-List: Re: Converting a 6 to a 6a > > In light of the rash of bent nose gear and flipped-over aircraft I > just cant understand any reason for wanting to switch to tri-gear. > [suspend tailwheel bravado] The RV-aircraft have got to be some of > the tamest tail-wheel aircraft ever made. IMHO, the only detractor > is the reduced visibility during taxi which is not a big deal. > Benifits include better looks, better rough field performance, and a > slight edge in speed. [resume tailwheel bravado] > > Why would you ruin a perfictly good airplane with a training > wheel? :-) > > -- > David Leonard > > Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY > http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net > http://RotaryRoster.net > > > On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 3:52 AM, Apik wrote: > > The RV-6 made its first flight in 1985. When all the flight testing > was done, Van was delighted to find that despite the wide fuselage, > it was only three miles per hour slower than the RV-4! The handling > qualities and STOL characteristics were so close that a pilot who > could not see the altered visual picture caused by sitting off the > centerline probably could not tell the RV-4 and RV-6 apart. ...here > is my info about RV 6A > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=228827#228827 > > > Subscription, > ://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-List > ref="http://forums.matronics.com/" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com > p; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > ==== > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-List > http://forums.matronics.com > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Converting a 6 to a 6a
Date: Feb 06, 2009
From: "Schroeder, Bob (Parts Clerk)" <BSchroeder(at)rideuta.com>
I will. I'm currently allowed to fly my buddy's 9a. it's a dream to fly and I've never had that good of landings in a piper or Cessna. It's just not fast enough compared to the 6 From: owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 10:55 AM Subject: RE: RV6-List: Re: Converting a 6 to a 6a Bob, You will probably love the A version. I moved from a 4 to a 6A because I regularly fly into commercial airports and the thought of looping the plane and causing a commercial flight to have to go around regardless of zero damage to my aircraft was enough to make me look at the A's. Yes the TW models look cooler and are SLIGHTLY faster and cost more to insure (whoops) but landing an A even in difficult conditions is a dream. I often look like a genius laying down my 6A as clean as can be imagined. I never had that feeling in my TW. If you feel comfortable with a nose wheel (and your manhood) enjoy you're A model. Robin www.painttheweb.com/rv-4 (sold) www.painttheweb.com/RV-6A (500 hours) www.painttheweb.com/RV-10 (in Paint Now) ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Ron Lee" <ronlee(at)pcisys.net>
Subject: Re: Converting a 6 to a 6a
Date: Feb 06, 2009
Exactly, insurance rates will tell the truth. I know of one RV groundloop with damage at my airport but ZERO RV tri-gear incidents. I suspect that the fact is that the nose-overs are on unimproved landing areas. So stay off of them. Ron Lee Have you checked the insurance rates for tail vs nose draggers???? ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Converting a 6 to a 6a
Date: Feb 06, 2009
From: "Schroeder, Bob (Parts Clerk)" <BSchroeder(at)rideuta.com>
None. But one of the 2 was a harmon rocket. I did see the picture of a 7A that was caught mid fall standing on its nose in the grass. From: owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Leonard Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 11:04 AM Subject: Re: RV6-List: Re: Converting a 6 to a 6a Yes, but how many RV aircraft do you know of that have groundlooped? Although I am sure there are many, I personally only know of 1. While I know of many flipped planes and bent nose forks. Perhaps it is because groundloops are usually relatively minor incidents that often don't make the RV news, but that is part of my point as well. Either way, Good luck David Leonard Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net http://RotaryRoster.net On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Schroeder, Bob (Parts Clerk) wrote: Too funny! However many bent nose gears there have been, there are only 2 kinds of tail wheel pilots. Those that have and those that will. (you know what I'm talking about) we have a local pilot that has 2 tail wheel aircraft and a tricycle gear bird. He ground looped one last fall and did the same with the other one a couple of weeks ago. So I think that I will continue my tricycle gear 6. Thank you very much. lol From: owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Leonard Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 9:15 AM Subject: Re: RV6-List: Re: Converting a 6 to a 6a In light of the rash of bent nose gear and flipped-over aircraft I just cant understand any reason for wanting to switch to tri-gear. [suspend tailwheel bravado] The RV-aircraft have got to be some of the tamest tail-wheel aircraft ever made. IMHO, the only detractor is the reduced visibility during taxi which is not a big deal. Benifits include better looks, better rough field performance, and a slight edge in speed. [resume tailwheel bravado] Why would you ruin a perfictly good airplane with a training wheel? :-) -- David Leonard Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net http://RotaryRoster.net On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 3:52 AM, Apik wrote: The RV-6 made its first flight in 1985. When all the flight testing was done, Van was delighted to find that despite the wide fuselage, it was only three miles per hour slower than the RV-4! The handling qualities and STOL characteristics were so close that a pilot who could not see the altered visual picture caused by sitting off the centerline probably could not tell the RV-4 and RV-6 apart. ...here is my info about RV 6A Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=228827#228827 Subscription, ://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-List ref="http://forums.matronics.com/" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com <http://forums.matronics.com/> p; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. ==== http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution et="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-List a href="http://forums.matronics.com/" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution -- ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Converting a 6 to a 6a
Date: Feb 06, 2009
From: "Schroeder, Bob (Parts Clerk)" <BSchroeder(at)rideuta.com>
The 9 that I have about 70 hours in is close to 200 total time and just a solid flyer. From: owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Cudney Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 11:07 AM Subject: Re: RV6-List: Re: Converting a 6 to a 6a Have you checked the insurance rates for tail vs nose draggers???? Set aside the testosterone issue; let it drop. best wishes dave--(bet you guessed it) -RV7A, 55 hours and no ground loops or flip overs so far------------ On Feb 6, 2009, at 8:43 AM, Schroeder, Bob (Parts Clerk) wrote: Too funny! However many bent nose gears there have been, there are only 2 kinds of tail wheel pilots. Those that have and those that will. (you know what I'm talking about) we have a local pilot that has 2 tail wheel aircraft and a tricycle gear bird. He ground looped one last fall and did the same with the other one a couple of weeks ago. So I think that I will continue my tricycle gear 6. Thank you very much. lol From: owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Leonard Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 9:15 AM Subject: Re: RV6-List: Re: Converting a 6 to a 6a In light of the rash of bent nose gear and flipped-over aircraft I just cant understand any reason for wanting to switch to tri-gear. [suspend tailwheel bravado] The RV-aircraft have got to be some of the tamest tail-wheel aircraft ever made. IMHO, the only detractor is the reduced visibility during taxi which is not a big deal. Benifits include better looks, better rough field performance, and a slight edge in speed. [resume tailwheel bravado] Why would you ruin a perfictly good airplane with a training wheel? :-) -- David Leonard Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net http://RotaryRoster.net On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 3:52 AM, Apik wrote: The RV-6 made its first flight in 1985. When all the flight testing was done, Van was delighted to find that despite the wide fuselage, it was only three miles per hour slower than the RV-4! The handling qualities and STOL characteristics were so close that a pilot who could not see the altered visual picture caused by sitting off the centerline probably could not tell the RV-4 and RV-6 apart. ...here is my info about RV 6A Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=228827#228827 Subscription, ://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-List ref="http://forums.matronics.com/" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com p; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. ==== http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-List blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://forums.matronics.com style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Charles Hohos" <chuckhh0208(at)msn.com>
Subject: Re: Converting a 6 to a 6a
Date: Feb 06, 2009
Please do not send these emails to the entire RV6-list. Thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: Schroeder, Bob (Parts Clerk)<mailto:BSchroeder(at)rideuta.com> To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 11:34 Subject: RE: RV6-List: Re: Converting a 6 to a 6a None. But one of the 2 was a harmon rocket. I did see the picture of a 7A that was caught mid fall standing on its nose in the grass. From: owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Leonard Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 11:04 AM To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com Subject: Re: RV6-List: Re: Converting a 6 to a 6a Yes, but how many RV aircraft do you know of that have groundlooped? Although I am sure there are many, I personally only know of 1. While I know of many flipped planes and bent nose forks. Perhaps it is because groundloops are usually relatively minor incidents that often don't make the RV news, but that is part of my point as well. Either way, Good luck David Leonard Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net> http://RotaryRoster.net> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Schroeder, Bob (Parts Clerk) > wrote: Too funny! However many bent nose gears there have been, there are only 2 kinds of tail wheel pilots. Those that have and those that will. (you know what I'm talking about) we have a local pilot that has 2 tail wheel aircraft and a tricycle gear bird. He ground looped one last fall and did the same with the other one a couple of weeks ago. So I think that I will continue my tricycle gear 6. Thank you very much. lol From: owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Leonard Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 9:15 AM To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com Subject: Re: RV6-List: Re: Converting a 6 to a 6a In light of the rash of bent nose gear and flipped-over aircraft I just cant understand any reason for wanting to switch to tri-gear. [suspend tailwheel bravado] The RV-aircraft have got to be some of the tamest tail-wheel aircraft ever made. IMHO, the only detractor is the reduced visibility during taxi which is not a big deal. Benifits include better looks, better rough field performance, and a slight edge in speed. [resume tailwheel bravado] Why would you ruin a perfictly good airplane with a training wheel? :-) -- David Leonard Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net> http://RotaryRoster.net> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 3:52 AM, Apik > wrote: > The RV-6 made its first flight in 1985. When all the flight testing was done, Van was delighted to find that despite the wide fuselage, it was only three miles per hour slower than the RV-4! The handling qualities and STOL characteristics were so close that a pilot who could not see the altered visual picture caused by sitting off the centerline probably could not tell the RV-4 and RV-6 apart. ...here is my info about RV 6A Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=228827#228827 .matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=228827#228827> Subscription, ://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-List<http://www.matronics.com/Navigato r?RV6-List>" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-List matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-List> ref="http://forums.matronics.com/>" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com /> p; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. ==== http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-List gator?RV6-List>http://forums.matronics.com>h ttp://www.matronics.com/contribution<http://www.matronics.com/contributio n> et="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-List onics.com/Navigator?RV6-List>a href="http://forums.matronics.com/" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com_blank">http://www.matronics .com/contribution<http://www.matronics.com/contribution> -- http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-Listhttp://forums.matronics.comhtt p://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-List gator?RV6-List> http://www.matronics.com/contribution on> ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 07, 2009
From: Charlie England <ceengland(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Converting a 6 to a 6a
Insurance rates are all about experience level (well, a little about how much the ins company is making in the stock market at the moment). I started flying lessons about 20 yrs ago with no desire to fly TW, then stumbled into a great deal on a 1/3 share of a Luscombe & learned to fly in that. I have almost no time in nosegear planes since then, & I don't pay any more for TW RV insurance than nosewheel. To be clear, I'm not talking about *experience*, not ability. The underwriter just looks at numbers; he doesn't watch you (or me) fly. Charlie David Cudney wrote: > Have you checked the insurance rates for tail vs nose draggers???? > > Set aside the testosterone issue; let it drop. > > best wishes > dave--(bet you guessed it) -RV7A, 55 hours and no ground loops or flip > overs so far------------ > > > On Feb 6, 2009, at 8:43 AM, Schroeder, Bob (Parts Clerk) wrote: > >> Too funny! However many bent nose gears there have been, there are >> only 2 kinds of tail wheel pilots. Those that have and those that >> will. (you know what Im talking about) we have a local pilot that >> has 2 tail wheel aircraft and a tricycle gear bird. He ground looped >> one last fall and did the same with the other one a couple of weeks >> ago. So I think that I will continue my tricycle gear 6. Thank you >> very much. lol >> *From:* owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com >> >> [mailto:owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *David Leonard >> *Sent:* Friday, February 06, 2009 9:15 AM >> *To:* rv6-list(at)matronics.com >> *Subject:* Re: RV6-List: Re: Converting a 6 to a 6a >> In light of the rash of bent nose gear and flipped-over aircraft I >> just cant understand any reason for wanting to switch to tri-gear. >> [suspend tailwheel bravado] The RV-aircraft have got to be some of >> the tamest tail-wheel aircraft ever made. IMHO, the only detractor is >> the reduced visibility during taxi which is not a big deal. Benifits >> include better looks, better rough field performance, and a slight >> edge in speed. [resume tailwheel bravado] >> Why would you ruin a perfictly good airplane with a training wheel? :-) >> >> -- >> David Leonard >> >> Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY >> http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net >> http://RotaryRoster.net >> >> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 3:52 AM, Apik > > wrote: >> > >> >> The RV-6 made its first flight in 1985. When all the flight testing >> was done, Van was delighted to find that despite the wide fuselage, >> it was only three miles per hour slower than the RV-4! The handling >> qualities and STOL characteristics were so close that a pilot who >> could not see the altered visual picture caused by sitting off the >> centerline probably could not tell the RV-4 and RV-6 apart. ...here >> is my info about RV 6A >> >> ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 07, 2009
From: Charlie England <ceengland(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Converting a 6 to a 6a
Ron, are you talking about grass strips when you say 'unimproved landing areas'? You're kidding, right? Guys, if you only fly off pavement & are happy limiting yourself to that kind of flying, then TW really does come down to appearance & if you don't want a TW, don't get one. On the other hand, don't be deceived into believing you have to have the skills of Chuck Yeager or Bob Hoover to safely fly a TW. Charlie See my previous post about ins. Ron Lee wrote: > Exactly, insurance rates will tell the truth. I know of one RV groundloop > with damage at my airport but ZERO RV tri-gear incidents. I suspect that > the fact is that the nose-overs are on unimproved landing areas. So > stay off > of them. > > Ron Lee > > > > Have you checked the insurance rates for tail vs nose draggers???? > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Ron Lee" <ronlee(at)pcisys.net>
Subject: Re: Converting a 6 to a 6a
Date: Feb 07, 2009
I meant non-paved/concrete. Ron Lee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlie England" <ceengland(at)bellsouth.net> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 8:18 AM Subject: Re: RV6-List: Re: Converting a 6 to a 6a > > > Ron, are you talking about grass strips when you say 'unimproved landing > areas'? You're kidding, right? > > Guys, if you only fly off pavement & are happy limiting yourself to that > kind of flying, then TW really does come down to appearance & if you don't > want a TW, don't get one. On the other hand, don't be deceived into > believing you have to have the skills of Chuck Yeager or Bob Hoover to > safely fly a TW. > > Charlie > See my previous post about ins. > > Ron Lee wrote: >> Exactly, insurance rates will tell the truth. I know of one RV >> groundloop >> with damage at my airport but ZERO RV tri-gear incidents. I suspect that >> the fact is that the nose-overs are on unimproved landing areas. So stay >> off >> of them. >> Ron Lee >> >> >> Have you checked the insurance rates for tail vs nose draggers???? >> > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Mar 04, 2009
From: <bharrisonsc(at)windstream.net>
Subject: Newly joined the rv-6 list
Greetings all: My brother and I bought a previously-owned RV-6 kit in the crates about a year ago and have been building for about ten months. He is doing the wings, while I have the fuselage and empennage at my place. Empennage is complete less the fiberglass work, while the fuse is at the skeleton stage. The wings are probably 50% complete--the tanks still to be done. So far I guess we are pretty typical ... I've built 3 tube and fabric experimentals and found them very easy ... the RV is a different type of building and the blueprints and manual are cryptic to say the least. We have printed out and consult the Justice notes frequently, plus I have watched the Orndorf videos countless times. We alternate frustration and satisfaction ... from what I hear that is normal. I've had to reorder two parts so far, fortunately they were cheap ones. Now that we are in the thick of building, I'm sure we will have questions for the list. BTW, I am building the fuse in Lexington, SC and the wings are in Lancaster, SC (about an hour distant). One of these days we'll be test fitting the wings to fuse ... should be exciting. Bruce Harrison ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Bob-tcw" <rnewman(at)tcwtech.com>
Subject: TCW Technologies new product announcement
Date: Mar 04, 2009
Fellow RV builders, Once again it is time for TCW Technologies to announce the availability of a new product. We have designed a small control module called SmartStart. It simplifies the installation and operation of push button or control stick starting of the aircraft engine starter. SmartStart provides an arming switch input and an interlock input and 1 minute timer during which a momentary switch may activate the engine starter. The arming switch may be hidden to improve theft resistance of the aircraft, the 1 minute timer helps prevent inadvertent starter activation. The interlock switch may be coupled to a door or canopy switch. SmartStart directly drives standard starter contactors and is all electronic. All the details are on our web site: www.tcwtech.com Best regards, Bob Newman TCW Technologies, LLC. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Wayne Boyter" <wboyter(at)q.com>
Subject: rods
Date: Mar 05, 2009
Good Morning I'm building lycoming O-230 E2A engine, when I disassembled the engine the number on the rods was facing the cam shaft. the book said to put he numbers towards the sump. The overhaul manual is a old 1979 edition any help wood be appreciate. Thanks Wayne ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Mar 25, 2009
From: Garey Wittich <gareywittich2000(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Filler for "Unwanted" Rivet Holes ???
Greetings: What material have you Builders used to fill in a couple of unwanted holes in the Skin, where a rivet can NOT be placed to plug the hole ???? Is Super-Fil a possible solution ???? Thanks, Garey Wittich Santa Monica, CA ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Smcm75(at)aol.com
Date: Mar 26, 2009
Subject: Re: Filler for "Unwanted" Rivet Holes ???
In a message dated 3/26/2009 1:04:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time, gareywittich2000(at)yahoo.com writes: What material have you Builders used to fill in a couple of unwanted holes in the Skin, where a rivet can NOT be placed to plug the hole ???? Is Super-Fil a possible solution ???? Nope try cutting a little circular patch from .016 aluminum about 3/4" dia. mix up a small batch of b-2 compound and stick the patch on the hole from the rear. Then clean the b-2 out of the hole if it oozes in with MEK. After the b-2 is set up you can fill the hole with featherfill and it will never vibrate out. **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001) ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "J. Brunke" <jdoody727(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Filler for "Unwanted" Rivet Holes ???
Date: Mar 26, 2009
Ok you got a new one on me. I tried looking up B-2 compound and couldn't find anything on it. Is this stuff like JB weld? John ----- Original Message ----- From: Smcm75(at)aol.com To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 7:13 AM Subject: Re: RV6-List: Filler for "Unwanted" Rivet Holes ??? In a message dated 3/26/2009 1:04:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time, gareywittich2000(at)yahoo.com writes: What material have you Builders used to fill in a couple of unwanted holes in the Skin, where a rivet can NOT be placed to plug the hole ???? Is Super-Fil a possible solution ???? Nope try cutting a little circular patch from .016 aluminum about 3/4" dia. mix up a small batch of b-2 compound and stick the patch on the hole from the rear. Then clean the b-2 out of the hole if it oozes in with MEK. After the b-2 is set up you can fill the hole with featherfill and it will never vibrate out. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Smcm75(at)aol.com
Date: Mar 27, 2009
Subject: Re: Filler for "Unwanted" Rivet Holes ???
In a message dated 3/26/2009 5:40:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jdoody727(at)comcast.net writes: I tried looking up B-2 compound B-2 compound is trade named Proseal that is the black rubber like junk that is used to seal all rv fuel tanks. it comes in two jars the base which is white and the hardner which is black. If I remember correctly the mix is 10 parts base 1 part hardner. it has the consistancy of warm peanut butter prior to hardning to a solid rubber like finish product. **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001) ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Apr 11, 2009
From: Garey Wittich <gareywittich2000(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Fill MK319BS Rivet Head holes to seal out moisture
Greetings: Back in 2000 a builder recommended a 3M product "IIRC" = silver colored windshield sealant, rubbery, can paint over. Can not find this 3M Product on the Internet and his E-mail address in no longer valid. Does anybody have info on this Product or a valid 3M Product Number ??? Is there an equivalent to this product ??? What did you use ??? Thanks, Garey ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Smcm75(at)aol.com
Date: Apr 12, 2009
Subject: Re: Fill MK319BS Rivet Head holes to seal out moisture
In a message dated 4/11/2009 11:04:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gareywittich2000(at)yahoo.com writes: Is there an equivalent to this product ??? What did you use ??? Thanks, Garey Use B-2 or better known as Proseal to stick an >016 small patch on the backside of the hole then fair over the outside with whatever you want. wont come off crack etc. **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001) ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Smcm75(at)aol.com
Date: Apr 12, 2009
Subject: Re: Fill MK319BS Rivet Head holes to seal out moisture
Also B-2 can be used to fill rivet heads since it sets -up like hards rubber and can be painted with no problem. Be warned it is not cheap and it is the messiest junk that you will ever have to work with. It is used for aircraft fuel tank sealant as primary purpose have plenty of MEK to clean up with **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001) ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Smcm75(at)aol.com
Date: May 05, 2009
Subject: Re:
In a message dated 5/5/2009 9:50:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, maurice609(at)live.com writes: fairings, is any way, without using plate nuts I used high quality sheet metal screws placed about every 3" with a dab of RTV on the tip. Start out with #4x1/2" if the hole starts to open up and the screw losens move up to the next size. I have 150 hrs. on my original screw set without having to replace any of the originals. I wouldn't trust any method of fairing attachment than nut plates and/or sheet metal screws. Regards, Scott Morrow **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! =May5509AvgfooterNO115) ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 05, 2009
From: bert murillo <robertrv607(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: e: RV6-List:
Scott: thanks for the info. You said you would not trust, any attachment with nut plates... - why?- I assure you that nut plates is the best for anything... The only thing is the work involved on Fiberglass, you would have to reinfo rce the area etc... that is why I wanted to know a different way.. - robert - rv6a --- On Tue, 5/5/09, Smcm75(at)aol.com wrote: From: Smcm75(at)aol.com <Smcm75(at)aol.com> Subject: Re: RV6-List: Date: Tuesday, May 5, 2009, 2:19 PM In a message dated 5/5/2009 9:50:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, maurice609@li ve.com writes: fairings, is any way, without using plate nuts I used high quality sheet metal screws placed about every 3" with a dab of RTV on the tip. Start out with #4x1/2" if the hole starts to open up and th e screw losens move up to the next size. I have 150 hrs. on my original scr ew set without having to replace any of-the originals. I wouldn't trust a ny method of fairing attachment than nut plates and/or sheet metal screws. - Regards, - Scott Morrow A Good Credit Score2931x1201367171/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport. com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=115%26bcd=May5509AvgfooterNO11 5>See yours in just 2 easy steps! =0A=0A=0A ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Ron Lee" <ronlee(at)pcisys.net>
Subject: Re: e: RV6-List:
Date: May 05, 2009
I think he meant OTHER Than nutplates or screws. Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: bert murillo To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 2:35 PM Subject: Re: RV6-List: Scott: thanks for the info. You said you would not trust, any attachment with nut plates... why? I assure you that nut plates is the best for anything... The only thing is the work involved on Fiberglass, you would have to reinforce the area etc... that is why I wanted to know a different way.. robert rv6a --- On Tue, 5/5/09, Smcm75(at)aol.com wrote: From: Smcm75(at)aol.com <Smcm75(at)aol.com> Subject: Re: RV6-List: To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com Date: Tuesday, May 5, 2009, 2:19 PM In a message dated 5/5/2009 9:50:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, maurice609(at)live.com writes: fairings, is any way, without using plate nuts I used high quality sheet metal screws placed about every 3" with a dab of RTV on the tip. Start out with #4x1/2" if the hole starts to open up and the screw losens move up to the next size. I have 150 hrs. on my original screw set without having to replace any of the originals. I wouldn't trust any method of fairing attachment than nut plates and/or sheet metal screws. Regards, Scott Morrow ---------------------------------------------------------------------- A Good Credit Score2931x1201367171/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/defau lt.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=115%26bcd=May5509AvgfooterNO115>See yours in just 2 easy steps! =nofollow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-List et=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com llow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Smcm75(at)aol.com
Date: May 05, 2009
Subject: Re: e: RV6-List:
In a message dated 5/5/2009 7:35:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ronlee(at)pcisys.net writes: You said you would not trust, any attachment with nut plates I said that I wouldn't trust any attachment WITHOUT NUT PLATES OR SCREWS unless you want to bond them on to the skin or rivet them. That will make them a little difficult to remove. Scott **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! =May5509AvgfooterNO115) ________________________________________________________________________________
From: maurice murillo <maurice609(at)live.com>
Subject: E: RV6-List:
Date: May 08, 2009
OK thanks Maurice From: Smcm75(at)aol.com Date: Tue=2C 5 May 2009 20:27:40 -0400 Subject: Re: RV6-List: In a message dated 5/5/2009 7:35:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time=2C ronlee@pcis ys.net writes: You said you would not trust=2C any attachment with nut plates I said that I wouldn't trust any attachment WITHOUT NUT PLATES OR SCREWS un less you want to bond them on to the skin or rivet them. That will make the m a little difficult to remove. Scott A Good Credit Score is 700 or67171/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport. com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=115%26bcd=May5509AvgfooterNO11 5>See yours in just 2 easy steps! _________________________________________________________________ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail=AE. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tut orial_QuickAdd1_052009 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Larry Mersek" <1rv6flyer(at)internet49.com>
Subject: RV10 Tail Kit for Sale
Date: May 08, 2009
I'm posting this for a local RV-6 pilot who is unable to complete his RV10 project. The project is located at Calaveras Airport San Andreas, CA. (KCPU) --Larry Mersek RV-6, flying RV10 Tail Kit for sale. Vertical and rudder are built. The horizontal is drilled to fit, dimpled, countersunk, and has been clecoed together before. It is ready for primer and priced at $2500. Marc at (209) 609-1947. fieldbaren(at)volcano.net ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 09, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Button Labeling For Infinity Stick Grips...
Dear Listers, I've been pondering for a while how to "label" the various button functions of the Infinity stick grips I have wired up in the front and back of the RV-8. I spent some time today with the 'ol CAD program making a caricature drawing of the Infinity stick grip and buttons and adding some labeling. My plan is to silk screen the attached layout right to the instrument panel in the front, and to a small metal piece for the back. The cockpit and instrument panel will be black, so the diagram should pop nicely on that background. Just thought I'd pass on my efforts. Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880 Laying Out Carpet Patterns In CAD... ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 09, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Button Labeling For Infinity Stick Grips...
Dear Listers, I've been pondering for a while how to "label" the various button functions of the Infinity stick grips I have wired up in the front and back of the RV-8. I spent some time today with the 'ol CAD program making a caricature drawing of the Infinity stick grip and buttons and adding some labeling. My plan is to silk screen the attached layout right to the instrument panel in the front, and to a small metal piece for the back. The cockpit and instrument panel will be black, so the diagram should pop nicely on that background. Just thought I'd pass on my efforts. Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880 Laying Out Carpet Patterns In CAD... ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 26, 2009
From: Balone Marine <balone_99(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: for sale question
Patience it will sell, times are bad right now. Bud --- On Mon, 5/18/09, Richard Dudley wrote: > From: Richard Dudley <rhdudley1(at)bellsouth.net> > Subject: Re: RV6-List: for sale question > To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com > Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 2:07 PM > > > > #yiv1770873699 .hmmessage P { > PADDING-RIGHT:0px;PADDING-LEFT:0px;PADDING-BOTTOM:0px;MARGIN:0px;PADDING-TOP:0px;} > #yiv1770873699 { > FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:Verdana;} > > > > > Hi Bert, > > Try Barnstormers and Van's > Airforce. I had good success on > both. Both have great coverage. My final sale was through > Barnstormers. > > Best regards, > > Richard Dudley > > ----- Original Message > ----- > From: > maurice > murillo > To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com > > Sent: Monday, May > 18, 2009 3:47 PM > Subject: RV6-List: > for sale > question > > > > > Hello: > > > I > have to depart from my loved, rv6a; lost my > medical. For thosewho > have gone thru > this experience, what is the best way to advertise, > lists etc.. > > I have listed it on the rv list, of course, I think I > did listed as rv-list @matronics.com... but I do no know > if I should list > each separately. > > I also placed an add on Trade-A-Plane.. > any suggestions or ideas will be appreciated, what was > your > best way, to > get > results... > > > thanks > > maurice > > rv6a > > do > not archive > > > > Hotmail has a new way to see what's up with your > friends. Check it out. > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 08, 2009
From: gareywittich2000(at)yahoo.com
Subject: Filler for unwanted Rivet Holes
Greetings: What material have you Builders used to fill in a couple of unwanted holes in the Skin, where a rivet can NOT be placed to plug the hole ???? Is Super-Fil a possible solution ???? Thanks,---Garey Wittich- Santa Monica, CA =0A=0A=0A ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 21, 2009
From: Garey Wittich <gareywittich2000(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Measure RUDDER Deflection (Swing) Angle
Greetings: Have my VS mounted to the work bench along with the Rudder attached. -Try ing to verify the 35 degree travel on the Rudder to the Left and Right of N eutral. -Seen no Archieves on how to measure the angle other than laying the VS and Rudder on the work bench and using "Smart Level" to measure the deflection in the Up & Down positions. -Must be "super simple" to measure it, but for some reason the method is not evident to me (now). Appreciate your help, - -Garey Wittich - Santa Monica, CA =0A=0A=0A ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 22, 2009
From: HCRV6(at)comcast.net
Subject: Re: Measure RUDDER Deflection (Swing) Angle
Lots of different approaches to this but for "super simple" just secure a cheap plastic protractor under the rudder, zeroed with the rudder in neutral and deflect away. I got fancy and made a cardboard deflection gauge when I did mine but was not necessary. Harry Crosby RV-6 N16CX, 593 hours ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garey Wittich" <gareywittich2000(at)yahoo.com> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 8:51:05 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: RV6-List: Measure RUDDER Deflection (Swing) Angle Greetings: Have my VS mounted to the work bench along with the Rudder attached. Trying to verify the 35 degree travel on the Rudder to the Left and Right of Neutral. Seen no Archieves on how to measure the angle other than laying the VS and Rudder on the work bench and using "Smart Level" to measure the deflection in the Up & Down positions. Must be "super simple" to measure it, but for some reason the method is not evident to me (now). Appreciate your help, Garey Wittich Santa Monica, CA ________________________________________________________________________________
From: maurice murillo <maurice609(at)live.com>
Subject:
Date: Jun 28, 2009
Hi: I have to depart from my rv6a. Lost medical .. Plane has 101 hrs. T/T AeroS port new engine 150 HP Fixed metal Prop. Is Slider Canopy. Has Nav Aid and Tru Trak Alt. hold. King's Nav.Com Radio and Xcom radio. Color Moving GPS. Grand Rapids Engine Monitor=2C including Carb. Temp and M.P. Nice paint=2C White Yellow and blue Stripes Interior is Royal Blue=2C made by Orndorf (Beckie) Plane Hangared in Delan d Florida (DED) Asking $65=2C000 Contack me off the list . or call 407.384.4961 any time. Maurice _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live=99 SkyDrive=99: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_SD_25GB_062009 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: maurice murillo <maurice609(at)live.com>
Subject: for sale
Date: Jun 30, 2009
Hi: I have a collection of Aviation magazines. Including: AOPA=2C Flying=2C Sport Aviation=2C since 1982 to the present.. All in good condition Make an offer=2C contact me off liine. I have not listed them on E bay yet.. Maurice " _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail=AE has ever-growing storage! Don=92t worry about storage limits. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tuto rial_Storage_062009 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 02, 2009
From: Garey Wittich <gareywittich2000(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Any Recommendations for Builders Assistance ???
Greetings:Working by myself, the RV-8A QB Project is going too "slooowly". -Local EAA Chapter here in Santa Monica, CA has no RV Builders or any at the airport. -Looking for some assistance by an experienced RV Builder or Builders Assistance Center here in Southern California to complete Project - where we can work together ( here or at their location) thus speeding th e Project along. -Want to work on the Project about 40 hours per week. -Willing to pay a reasonable fee for the help. I have completed the Emhen nage - now ready to start the Wings.- Any helpful suggestions ?? Thanks, - Garey Wittich -Santa Monica, CA - (310) 392-1682=0A=0A=0A ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 02, 2009
From: Rich Tichy <houndsfour(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Any Recommendations for Builders Assistance ???
Hi Garey, I think your best bet will be to contact the "Van Air Force" web site. http://www.vansairforce.net/ On the left side of the page you'll find a heading labeled "builders assistance". Also if you look under "RV-8" you will find a list of RV-* builders and flyers. I'd be willing to bet there is some one close to you. Rich RV-6 N721ET ----- Garey Wittich wrote: > Greetings: Working by myself, the RV-8A QB Project is going too "slooowly". Local EAA Chapter here in Santa Monica, CA has no RV Builders or any at the airport. Looking for some assistance by an experienced RV Builder or Builders Assistance Center here in Southern California to complete Project - where we can work together ( here or at their location) thus speeding the Project along. Want to work on the Project about 40 hours per week. Willing to pay a reasonable fee for the help. I have completed the Emhennage - now ready to start the Wings. Any helpful suggestions ?? Thanks, Garey Wittich Santa Monica, CA (310) 392-1682 > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: maurice murillo <maurice609(at)live.com>
Subject: Question on Matronics. list
Date: Jul 07, 2009
Hi: I was off the list for a monthy=2C we were moving. I tried to subscribe to the RV lists=2C I entered my E mail address=2C checked the items I wanted to subscribed=2C then pressed subscribe=2C etc.. got message=2C to go to my Web page=2C get a message from matronics confirm ing... I did all that=2C but now I do not get any thing from Matronics on my e mai l.. page...before I would see it immediately. Can some one tell me what I am doing wrong? thanks maurice _________________________________________________________________ Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC that=92s right for you. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/choosepc/?ocid=ftp_val_wl_290 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: maurice murillo <maurice609(at)live.com>
Subject: COLLECTION MAGAZINESS
Date: Jul 23, 2009
hI: I have a collection of aviation magaziness=2C of ten years. Includes all AOPA=2C sport plane=2C Flying=2C and others. all in good condition.. any one interested=2C respond off list or call 407.878.3491 _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live=99 Hotmail=AE: Celebrate the moment with your favorite sports pics. Check it out. http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGL M_WL_QA_HM_sports_photos_072009&cat=sports ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 24, 2009
From: Garey Wittich <gareywittich2000(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Looking for Builders Asistance
Greetings: Have RV-8A QB Kit. -Have completed Empennage and looking for assistance t o complete Project. -Does anybody know of any person(s) that do Builders Assistance in Southern California (preferably in the Los Angeles Area) ???? Appreciate any leads !!!! Thanks, -Garey Wittich - Santa Monica, CA - -(310) 392-1682=0A=0A =0A ________________________________________________________________________________
From: maurice murillo <maurice609(at)live.com>
Subject: Canopy
Date: Jul 27, 2009
Hi: I need a canopy frame for my rv6a slider. If some one has one in good con dition=2C I would like to buy it. Thanks for any information rv6a bert do not acrchive _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live=99 Hotmail=AE: Celebrate the moment with your favorite sports pics. Check it out. http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGL M_WL_QA_HM_sports_photos_072009&cat=sports ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Gerald Richardson" <gerric(at)shaw.ca>
Subject: Canopy
Date: Jul 27, 2009
I have one, unused for an RV6A, what is your location. Also what is your phone number Gerald Richardson Flying RV6A _____ From: owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of maurice murillo Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 07:48 Subject: RV6-List: Canopy Hi: I need a canopy frame for my rv6a slider. If some one has one in good condition, I would like to buy it. Thanks for any information rv6a bert do not acrchive _____ Windows Live=99 Hotmail=AE: Celebrate the moment with your favorite sports pics. HYPERLINK "http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_T AGLM_ WL_QA_HM_sports_photos_072009&cat=sports"Check it out. "http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-List"http://www.matronics.com/Nav iga tor?RV6-List "http://forums.matronics.com"http://forums.matronics.com "http://www.matronics.com/contribution"http://www.matronics.com/contribut ion / Checked by AVG. 02/24/2009 13:35 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: maurice murillo <maurice609(at)live.com>
Subject: Canopy
Date: Jul 28, 2009
Gerald: I am in Deland Florida My tel: is 407.878.3491 Thanks=2C let me know your tel=3B I can call you if you want. bert From: gerric(at)shaw.ca Subject: RE: RV6-List: Canopy Date: Mon=2C 27 Jul 2009 22:55:30 -0600 I have one=2C unused for an RV6A=2C what is your location. Also what is your phone number Gerald Richardson Flying RV6A From: owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv6-list-server@mat ronics.com] On Behalf Of maurice murillo Sent: Monday=2C July 27=2C 2009 07:48 Subject: RV6-List: Canopy Hi: I need a canopy frame for my rv6a slider. If some one has one in good con dition=2C I would like to buy it. Thanks for any information rv6a bert do not acrchive Windows Live=99 Hotmail=AE: Celebrate the moment with your favorite sports pics. Check it out. Email Forum -http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-L isthttp://forums.matronics.comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution Checked by AVG. Release Date: 02/24/2009 13:35 Checked by AVG. 02/24/2009 13:35 _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live=99 Hotmail=AE: Search=2C add=2C and share the web=92s latest s ports videos. Check it out. http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGL M_WL_QA_HM_sports_videos_072009&cat=sports ________________________________________________________________________________
From: maurice murillo <maurice609(at)live.com>
Subject: Canopy
Date: Jul 29, 2009
Gerald: Did you get my last E mail? Would like to know about the Canopy frame=2C if you have it=2C and how much you want fo it. thanks bert From: gerric(at)shaw.ca Subject: RE: RV6-List: Canopy Date: Mon=2C 27 Jul 2009 22:55:30 -0600 I have one=2C unused for an RV6A=2C what is your location. Also what is your phone number Gerald Richardson Flying RV6A From: owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv6-list-server@mat ronics.com] On Behalf Of maurice murillo Sent: Monday=2C July 27=2C 2009 07:48 Subject: RV6-List: Canopy Hi: I need a canopy frame for my rv6a slider. If some one has one in good con dition=2C I would like to buy it. Thanks for any information rv6a bert do not acrchive Windows Live=99 Hotmail=AE: Celebrate the moment with your favorite sports pics. Check it out. Email Forum -http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-L isthttp://forums.matronics.comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution Checked by AVG. Release Date: 02/24/2009 13:35 Checked by AVG. 02/24/2009 13:35 _________________________________________________________________ NEW mobile Hotmail. Optimized for YOUR phone. Click here. http://windowslive.com/Mobile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_CS_MB_new_hotmail_072009 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Albwertz(at)cs.com
Date: Jul 29, 2009
Subject: Re: Canopy
You probably sent this email to me by mistake...I am only intrested in selling an engine mount for an RV6-A. It's new in the box as they say. I am asking$750 for it. I'm located in Hellertown,Pa. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: maurice murillo <maurice609(at)live.com>
Subject: Canopy
Date: Jul 29, 2009
Hi: Thanks for the reply=2C=2Ccould you tell me how much would be the shipping =2C from there to Orlando=2C FL. any idea. I would consider buying the canopy frame. thanks bert From: Albwertz(at)cs.com Date: Wed=2C 29 Jul 2009 13:03:27 -0400 Subject: Re: RV6-List: Canopy You probably sent this email to me by mistake...I am only intrested in sell ing an engine mount for an RV6-A. It's new in the box as they say. I am ask ing$750 for it. I'm located in Hellertown=2CPa. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live=99 Hotmail=AE: Search=2C add=2C and share the web=92s latest s ports videos. Check it out. http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGL M_WL_QA_HM_sports_videos_072009&cat=sports ________________________________________________________________________________
From: maurice murillo <maurice609(at)live.com>
Subject: Canopy
Date: Jul 29, 2009
thnks for the rply.. Disregard my e mail=2C my mistake.. I see is an Engin e mount. thanks maurice From: maurice609(at)live.com Subject: RE: RV6-List: Canopy Date: Wed=2C 29 Jul 2009 14:26:34 -0400 Hi: Thanks for the reply=2C=2Ccould you tell me how much would be the shipping =2C from there to Orlando=2C FL. any idea. I would consider buying the canopy frame. thanks bert From: Albwertz(at)cs.com Date: Wed=2C 29 Jul 2009 13:03:27 -0400 Subject: Re: RV6-List: Canopy You probably sent this email to me by mistake...I am only intrested in sell ing an engine mount for an RV6-A. It's new in the box as they say. I am ask ing$750 for it. I'm located in Hellertown=2CPa. tp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-List ronics.com ww.matronics.com/contribution Windows Live=99 Hotmail=AE: Search=2C add=2C and share the web=92s latest s ports videos. Check it out. _________________________________________________________________ Bing=99 brings you maps=2C menus=2C and reviews organized in one place. Try it now. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MLOGEN&publ=WLHMTAG&cre a=TXT_MLOGEN_Local_Local_Restaurants_1x1 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: maurice murillo <maurice609(at)live.com>
Subject: canopy frame
Date: Jul 30, 2009
I am looking for a canopy frame for my rv6a (slider) Any information=2C would be appreciated thank you M _________________________________________________________________ Bing=99 brings you maps=2C menus=2C and reviews organized in one place. Try it now. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MLOGEN&publ=WLHMTAG&cre a=TXT_MLOGEN_Local_Local_Restaurants_1x1 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 30, 2009
From: david cook <davercook1501(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: canopy frame
Try Vans Aircraft !=0A=0A =0ADavid R. Cook=0AN815DC RV-6=0AFlying=0A=0A=0A =0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: maurice murillo <maurice609@ live.com>=0ATo: rv6-list(at)matronics.com=0ASent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 4:53 :27 PM=0ASubject: RV6-List: canopy frame=0A=0A I am looking for a canopy fr ame for my rv6a (slider)=0A =0AAny information, would be appreciated=0A =0A =0Athank you=0A =0AM=0A=0A________________________________=0ABing=84=A2 brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now. ==================0A=0A=0A ________________________________________________________________________________
From: maurice murillo <maurice609(at)live.com>
Subject: canopy frame
Date: Jul 31, 2009
Thanks David for the suggestion. I cannot afford the price they charge obviosly=2C that is the reasons for t he posting no? maurice Date: Thu=2C 30 Jul 2009 17:47:22 -0700 From: davercook1501(at)yahoo.com Subject: Re: RV6-List: canopy frame Try Vans Aircraft ! David R. Cook N815DC RV-6 Flying From: maurice murillo <maurice609(at)live.com> Sent: Thursday=2C July 30=2C 2009 4:53:27 PM Subject: RV6-List: canopy frame I am looking for a canopy frame for my rv6a (slider) Any information=2C would be appreciated thank you M Bing=99 brings you maps=2C menus=2C and reviews organized in one place. Try it now. http://f==== _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live=99 SkyDrive=99: Store=2C access=2C and share your photos. See how. http://windowslive.com/Online/SkyDrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_CS_SD_photos_072 009 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: maurice murillo <maurice609(at)live.com>
Subject: for sale near Orlando
Date: Aug 20, 2009
Hi: I have to sell my rv6a. Located in Deland Florida total time 102 hrs. 150 HP Aero Sport Eng. Eng. monitor=2C Nav-Aid. Alt. Hold. two radios MP indication and Carb Heat probe. Flys great. and fast. As is (Canopy needs some work) $51=2C000 or with Canopy fixed $53=2C000 contact off list=2C or call 407.878.3491 _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you=92re up to on Facebook. http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL :ON:WL:en-US:SI_SB_facebook:082009 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "JimFudge" <n26780(at)cox.net>
Subject: for sale near Orlando
Date: Aug 20, 2009
Burt Do you have any photos. I have been looking at your one photo on barnstormers but it doesn't show much. Jim Fudge Niceville, FL From: owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of maurice murillo Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 5:06 PM Subject: RV6-List: for sale near Orlando Hi: I have to sell my rv6a. Located in Deland Florida total time 102 hrs. 150 HP Aero Sport Eng. Eng. monitor, Nav-Aid. Alt. Hold. two radios MP indication and Carb Heat probe. Flys great. and fast. As is (Canopy needs some work) $51,000 or with Canopy fixed $53,000 contact off list, or call 407.878.3491 _____ Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you're up to on Facebook. Find out more. <http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:O N:WL:en-US:SI_SB_facebook:082009> ________________________________________________________________________________
From: maurice murillo <maurice609(at)live.com>
Subject: for sale near Orlando
Date: Aug 26, 2009
Jim: I tried the other day and e maill or added many photos. I hope I did this thing right....not too familiar with posting photos thru the web...internet bert From: n26780(at)cox.net Subject: RE: RV6-List: for sale near Orlando Date: Thu=2C 20 Aug 2009 17:48:30 -0500 Burt Do you have any photos. I have been looking at your one photo on barnstormers but it doesn=92t show much. Jim Fudge Niceville=2C FL From: owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv6-list-server@mat ronics.com] On Behalf Of maurice murillo Sent: Thursday=2C August 20=2C 2009 5:06 PM Subject: RV6-List: for sale near Orlando Hi: I have to sell my rv6a. Located in Deland Florida total time 102 hrs. 150 HP Aero Sport Eng. Eng. monitor=2C Nav-Aid. Alt. Hold. two radios MP indication and Carb Heat probe. Flys great. and fast. As is (Canopy needs some work) $51=2C000 or with Canopy fixed $53=2C000 contact off list=2C or call 407.878.3491 Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you=92re up to on Facebook. Find out more. http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-Listhttp ://forums.matronics.comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution _________________________________________________________________ Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you. http://www.bing.com/cashback?form=MSHYCB&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MSHYC B_BackToSchool_Cashback_BTSCashback_1x1 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "JimFudge" <n26780(at)cox.net>
Subject: for sale near Orlando
Date: Aug 27, 2009
It worked.I am reviewing the photos. Jim From: owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of maurice murillo Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 8:43 PM Subject: RE: RV6-List: for sale near Orlando Jim: I tried the other day and e maill or added many photos. I hope I did this thing right....not too familiar with posting photos thru the web...internet bert _____ From: n26780(at)cox.net Subject: RE: RV6-List: for sale near Orlando Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:48:30 -0500 Burt Do you have any photos. I have been looking at your one photo on barnstormers but it doesn't show much. Jim Fudge Niceville, FL From: owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of maurice murillo Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 5:06 PM Subject: RV6-List: for sale near Orlando Hi: I have to sell my rv6a. Located in Deland Florida total time 102 hrs. 150 HP Aero Sport Eng. Eng. monitor, Nav-Aid. Alt. Hold. two radios MP indication and Carb Heat probe. Flys great. and fast. As is (Canopy needs some work) $51,000 or with Canopy fixed $53,000 contact off list, or call 407.878.3491 _____ Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you're up to on Facebook. Find <http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:O N:WL:en-US:SI_SB_facebook:082009> out more. http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution tp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-List ronics.com ww.matronics.com/contribution _____ Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you. Try Bing <http://www.bing.com/cashback?form=MSHYCB&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MSHYCB_Back ToSchool_Cashback_BTSCashback_1x1> T now. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: George Frost <ghfrost(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: Conical mount
Date: Aug 27, 2009
I have a never used conical engine mount for a Lycoming 0-320 engine. I found a dynafocal engine and had to replace the mount on my kit. It' s for sale for $100 plus shipping. I have it in the box the dynafocal came in. If there are no buyers it will go to the junk yard at the end of Sept. I'll be offline until mid Sept. George Frost ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 28, 2009
From: Robert Murillo <robertrv09(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: for sale,Florida
Hi: - For any one building or planning to star building and rv6A. - I have all the tools, glecos, rivets- all sizes,,plyers, Drill press,- Rivet gun, Dimpler 18 gal. Compresor- and more.. - Save hundreds,- I lost medical, sold my plane... - If near Orlando, why don't you stopo and see,, or contact me off list - Tel:- 407.878.3491 - robert=0A=0A=0A ________________________________________________________________________________
From: PeterHunt1(at)aol.com
Date: Sep 14, 2009
Subject: Van's gauges
In 420 house over three plus years a number of Van's gauges have failed (fuel quantity, volts, amps, oil pressure). Now I must install the third volt meter. I like the look of Van's gauges and the fact that they match, but don't like the failure rate. What have your experiences been? Pete in Clearwater RV-6 - Reserve Grand Champion, S 'n F 2006 and other awards ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 14, 2009
From: Roger Edwards <rledwards9(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Van's gauges
130 hours. no failures in my RV6. Maybe voltage problem or vibration? --- On Mon, 9/14/09, PeterHunt1(at)aol.com wrote: > From: PeterHunt1(at)aol.com <PeterHunt1(at)aol.com> > Subject: RV6-List: Van's gauges > To: RV6-list(at)matronics.com, aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com > Date: Monday, September 14, 2009, 1:46 PM > > > > > In 420 house over three plusyears a number > ofVan's gaugeshave failed (fuel quantity, > volts, amps, oil pressure). Now I must install the > third volt meter. I like the look of Van's gauges > and the fact that they match, but don't like the failure > rate. What have your experiences been? > > Pete in Clearwater > RV-6 - Reserve Grand Champion, S 'n F 2006 and > other awards > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 14, 2009
From: Neil Clayton <harvey4(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Van's gauges
Of all the teething troubles I've experienced since my plane first flew (about 60 hours on the airframe now), almost ALL were caused by %^$#&* Van's gauges lying to me. I spent 6 months chasing hot oil till I realized it was a lie. The RPM at cruise at 180 kts is regularly reported by Van's as 1000 Revs. The ammeter swings from full -ve to full +ve all the time in flight. Voltage display is about 11v most of the time (I have a digital voltmeter hooked up to the bus showing a true 13.5 volts) Lately, the CHT on #4 has gone to 450 indicated - but nothing has been changed to the cooling flow. I'm gonna take great pleasure in dumping these trash gauges in the pool and installing a Dynon EIS as soon as I can. Recommendation to anyone contemplating these gauges is - DON'T! They're junk! Neil At 06:10 PM 9/14/2009, you wrote: >Similar, my pressure and temperature gauges >failed at around 400 hours. So all of the Van=92s >gauges, save for fuel gauges, were pull out and >replaced with a GRT EIS 4000. Now approaching >700 hours I=92m going to replace the fuel gauges with a dual UMA 2 =BC. > >Peter > >-----Original Message----- >From: >owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com >[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com] >On Behalf Of PeterHunt1(at)aol.com >Sent: 14 September 2009 18:46 >To: RV6-list(at)matronics.com; aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com >Subject: AeroElectric-List: Van's gauges > >In 420 house over three plus years a number of >Van's gauges have failed (fuel quantity, volts, >amps, oil pressure). Now I must install the >third volt meter. I like the look of Van's >gauges and the fact that they match, but don't >like the failure rate. What have your experiences been? > >Pete in Clearwater >RV-6 - Reserve Grand Champion, S 'n F 2006 and other awards > > >---------- > > >http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List > > >http://forums.matronics.com > > >http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 16, 2009
From: Robert Murillo <robertrv09(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Leaking tank
Hi: - My right tank, on my rv6a is leaking,- I tried puting Pro seal on the out side , that does not work. - Need the best way of doing this, and of course, if possible the easiest... - Is a pain removing all thos bolts.. - Thanks for sugestions, - Bert=0A=0A__________________________________________________=0ADo You Yahoo p://mail.yahoo.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Jeff Orear <jorear(at)new.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Leaking
Date: Sep 16, 2009
Hi Bert: If I recall correctly, there is a technique where you use a Loctite product (the name escapes me) that is green in color where you put a dab of it in the area of the leak and then apply suction to the tank with a vacuum. The sealer gets sucked into the leak. Do a search in the archives and you should be able to find the specific Loctite product to use. Regards, Jeff Orear RV6A N782P Peshtigo, WI On Sep 16, 2009, at 4:03 PM, Robert Murillo wrote: > Hi: > > My right tank, on my rv6a is leaking, I tried puting Pro seal on > the out side , that does > not work. > > Need the best way of doing this, and of course, if possible the > easiest... > > Is a pain removing all thos bolts.. > > Thanks for sugestions, > > Bert > > ______________________________________ > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Neal George" <n8zg(at)mchsi.com>
Subject: Leaking tank
Date: Sep 16, 2009
Bert - Where is it leaking? At a rivet? Along a baffle seam? neal From: owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert Murillo Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 4:03 PM Subject: RV6-List: Leaking tank Hi: My right tank, on my rv6a is leaking, I tried puting Pro seal on the out side , that does not work. Need the best way of doing this, and of course, if possible the easiest... Is a pain removing all thos bolts.. Thanks for sugestions, Bert ______________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________________
From: MnwPeeps(at)aol.com
Date: Sep 16, 2009
Subject: Re: Leaking tank
My tank was leaking just through the leading edge rivets. My mech put on, very tightly, a sort-of plastic tape substance (with no air bubbles) - three years ago and I've had no leaks since. Will get the name of the stuff if you want it, but it looks like very basic stuff. If your actual tank is leaking elsewhere then I suppose (sort of obvious) this won't work for you without taking all the bolts out, anyway. Tom In a message dated 9/16/2009 5:04:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, robertrv09(at)yahoo.com writes: Hi: My right tank, on my rv6a is leaking, I tried puting Pro seal on the out side , that does not work. Need the best way of doing this, and of course, if possible the easiest... Is a pain removing all thos bolts.. Thanks for sugestions, Bert ______________________________________ (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-List) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Hedrick" <khedrick(at)frontiernet.net>
Subject: Leaking tank
Date: Sep 17, 2009
Yes, Tom. I would like the name of this stuff as I have that same leading edge leak. Keith Hedrick RV6 3LF _____ From: owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of MnwPeeps(at)aol.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 9:57 PM Subject: Re: RV6-List: Leaking tank My tank was leaking just through the leading edge rivets. My mech put on, very tightly, a sort-of plastic tape substance (with no air bubbles) - three years ago and I've had no leaks since. Will get the name of the stuff if you want it, but it looks like very basic stuff. If your actual tank is leaking elsewhere then I suppose (sort of obvious) this won't work for you without taking all the bolts out, anyway. Tom In a message dated 9/16/2009 5:04:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, robertrv09(at)yahoo.com writes: Hi: My right tank, on my rv6a is leaking, I tried puting Pro seal on the out side , that does not work. Need the best way of doing this, and of course, if possible the easiest... Is a pain removing all thos bolts.. Thanks for sugestions, Bert ______________________________________ =================================== ="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navi gator?RV6-List =================================== ms.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com =================================== tp://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution =================================== 17:49:00 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: MnwPeeps(at)aol.com
Date: Sep 17, 2009
Subject: Re: Leaking tank
Keith - I just talked to my mech, and - to my surprise - he couldn't remember the name of the product! But he will, and I've asked him to call me right away when he does, and we'll get it to you. Tom In a message dated 9/17/2009 8:17:24 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, khedrick(at)frontiernet.net writes: Yes, Tom. I would like the name of this stuff as I have that same leading edge leak. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Hedrick" <khedrick(at)frontiernet.net>
Subject: Leaking tank
Date: Sep 17, 2009
No prob. thanks for asking. Maybe he will remember. kt _____ From: owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of MnwPeeps(at)aol.com Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 10:35 AM Subject: Re: RV6-List: Leaking tank Keith - I just talked to my mech, and - to my surprise - he couldn't remember the name of the product! But he will, and I've asked him to call me right away when he does, and we'll get it to you. Tom In a message dated 9/17/2009 8:17:24 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, khedrick(at)frontiernet.net writes: Yes, Tom. I would like the name of this stuff as I have that same leading edge leak. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: MnwPeeps(at)aol.com
Date: Sep 17, 2009
Subject: Re: Leaking tank
He will. In a message dated 9/17/2009 2:04:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, khedrick(at)frontiernet.net writes: Maybe he will remember. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 18, 2009
From: Robert Murillo <robertrv09(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Leaking tank
Neal: =C2- is on the Inboard,=C2- (fuselage) side, along the rivet line . =C2- thanks =C2- robert --- On Wed, 9/16/09, Neal George wrote: From: Neal George <n8zg(at)mchsi.com> Subject: RE: RV6-List: Leaking tank Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 9:48 PM Bert =93 Where is it leaking? At a rivet? Along a baffle seam? =C2- neal =C2- From: owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv6-list-server@mat ronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert Murillo Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 4:03 PM Subject: RV6-List: Leaking tank =C2- Hi: =C2- My right tank, on my rv6a is leaking,=C2- I tried puting Pro seal on the out side , that does not work. =C2- Need the best way of doing this, and of course, if possible the easiest... =C2- Is a pain removing all thos bolts.. =C2- Thanks for sugestions, =C2- Bert ______________________________________ =C2- =C2-http://www.matronics.co m/Navigator?RV6-Listhttp://forums.matronics.comhttp://www.matronics.com/con tribution =C2- =0A=0A=0A ________________________________________________________________________________
From: maurice murillo <maurice609(at)live.com>
Subject: Leaking tank
Date: Sep 18, 2009
I posted also an e mail=2C I have the same problem on my rv6a leaking tank r/s. any suggestions will be appreciated robert rv6a From: khedrick(at)frontiernet.net Subject: RE: RV6-List: Leaking tank Date: Thu=2C 17 Sep 2009 12:58:49 -0500 No prob. thanks for asking. Maybe he will remember. kt From: owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv6-list-server@mat ronics.com] On Behalf Of MnwPeeps(at)aol.com Sent: Thursday=2C September 17=2C 2009 10:35 AM Subject: Re: RV6-List: Leaking tank Keith - I just talked to my mech=2C and - to my surprise - he couldn't remember the name of the product! But he will=2C and I've asked him to call me right away when he does=2C and we'll get it to you. Tom In a message dated 9/17/2009 8:17:24 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time=2C khedrick @frontiernet.net writes: Yes=2C Tom. I would like the name of this stuff as I have that same leadin g edge leak. href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-List">http://www.matronics.c om/Navigator?RV6-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c 3.103/2378 - Release Date: 09/17/09 06:18:00 =0A _________________________________________________________________=0A Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC that=92s right for you.=0A http://www.microsoft.com/windows/choosepc/?ocid=ftp_val_wl_290 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: maurice murillo <maurice609(at)live.com>
Subject: Leaking tank
Date: Sep 18, 2009
Tom: Thank for the reply=2C if you could send me the name of the product will ap preciated.. I tried=2C the Pro seal stuff=2C=2C=2C but did not worked=2C or I did a bad job... thanks robert rv6a From: MnwPeeps(at)aol.com Date: Wed=2C 16 Sep 2009 22:57:08 -0400 Subject: Re: RV6-List: Leaking tank My tank was leaking just through the leading edge rivets. My mech put on=2C very tightly=2C a sort-of plastic tape substance (with no air bubbles) - t hree years ago and I've had no leaks since. Will get the name of the stuff if you want it=2C but it looks like very basic stuff. If your actual tank i s leaking elsewhere then I suppose (sort of obvious) this won't work for yo u without taking all the bolts out=2C anyway. Tom In a message dated 9/16/2009 5:04:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time=2C robertrv 09(at)yahoo.com writes: Hi: My right tank=2C on my rv6a is leaking=2C I tried puting Pro seal on the o ut side =2C that does not work. Need the best way of doing this=2C and of course=2C if possible the easiest ... Is a pain removing all thos bolts.. Thanks for sugestions=2C Bert ______________________________________ ="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-List">http://www.matronics.com/N avigator?RV6-List ms.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com tp://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution =0A _________________________________________________________________=0A Microsoft brings you a new way to search the web. Try Bing=99 now=0A http://www.bing.com?form=MFEHPG&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MFEHPG_Core_ta gline_try bing_1x1 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: maurice murillo <maurice609(at)live.com>
Subject: Leaking
Date: Sep 18, 2009
thanks Jeff: I will check on that robert From: jorear(at)new.rr.com Subject: Re: RV6-List: Leaking Date: Wed=2C 16 Sep 2009 16:17:24 -0500 Hi Bert: If I recall correctly=2C there is a technique where you use a Loctite produ ct (the name escapes me) that is green in color where you put a dab of it i n the area of the leak and then apply suction to the tank with a vacuum. T he sealer gets sucked into the leak. Do a search in the archives and you should be able to find the specific Loc tite product to use. Regards=2C Jeff Orear RV6A N782P Peshtigo=2C WI On Sep 16=2C 2009=2C at 4:03 PM=2C Robert Murillo wrote: Hi: My right tank=2C on my rv6a is leaking=2C I tried puting Pro seal on the o ut side =2C that does not work. Need the best way of doing this=2C and of course=2C if possible the easiest ... Is a pain removing all thos bolts.. Thanks for sugestions=2C Bert ______________________________________ href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-List">http://www.matronics.c om/Navigator?RV6-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/con tribution =0A _________________________________________________________________=0A Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC that=92s right for you.=0A http://www.microsoft.com/windows/choosepc/?ocid=ftp_val_wl_290 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 19, 2009
From: Balone Marine <balone_99(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Leaking tank
what is your life worth,do the bolts, I know it is a pain.Every time Irun into a prblem I asked the same question. Bud --- On Fri, 9/18/09, Robert Murillo wrote: > From: Robert Murillo <robertrv09(at)yahoo.com> > Subject: RE: RV6-List: Leaking tank > To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com > Date: Friday, September 18, 2009, 10:14 AM > Neal: > > is on the Inboard, (fuselage) side, along the > rivet line . > > thanks > > robert > > --- On Wed, 9/16/09, Neal George > wrote: > > > From: Neal George <n8zg(at)mchsi.com> > Subject: RE: RV6-List: Leaking tank > To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com > Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 9:48 PM > > > > > > > > > Bert > > Where is it > leaking? > At a > rivet? > Along a baffle > seam? > > neal > > > From: > owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of > Robert Murillo > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 4:03 PM > To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: RV6-List: Leaking tank > > > > > > > Hi: > > > > My right tank, on my rv6a is > leaking, I tried puting Pro seal on the out side , > that does > > not work. > > > > Need the best way of doing this, and > of course, if possible the easiest... > > > > Is a pain removing all thos > bolts.. > > > > Thanks for sugestions, > > > > Bert > > ______________________________________ > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-Listhttp://forums.matronics.comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > =nofollow > target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-List > et=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com > llow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 19, 2009
From: Robert Murillo <robertrv09(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Leaking tank
Thanks=C2- Bud: =C2- But the questions I have is, how do you fix the problem,,, I wANT TO HEAR S OLUTIONS =C2- how do you seal so lthere is no leaks? =C2- thanks =C2- robert --- On Sat, 9/19/09, Balone Marine wrote: From: Balone Marine <balone_99(at)yahoo.com> Subject: RE: RV6-List: Leaking tank Date: Saturday, September 19, 2009, 9:06 PM what is your life worth,do the bolts, I know it is a pain.Every time Irun i nto a prblem I asked the same question. Bud --- On Fri, 9/18/09, Robert Murillo wrote: > From: Robert Murillo <robertrv09(at)yahoo.com> > Subject: RE: RV6-List: Leaking tank > To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com > Date: Friday, September 18, 2009, 10:14 AM > Neal: > =C2- > is on the Inboard,=C2- (fuselage) side, along the > rivet line . > =C2- > thanks > =C2- > robert > > --- On Wed, 9/16/09, Neal George > wrote: > > > From: Neal George <n8zg(at)mchsi.com> > Subject: RE: RV6-List: Leaking tank > To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com > Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 9:48 PM > > > > > > > > > Bert =93 > > Where is it > leaking? > At a > rivet? > Along a baffle > seam? > =C2- > neal > =C2- > > From: > owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of > Robert Murillo > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 4:03 PM > To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: RV6-List: Leaking tank > =C2- > > > > > > Hi: > > =C2- > > My right tank, on my rv6a is > leaking,=C2- I tried puting Pro seal on the out side , > that does > > not work. > > =C2- > > Need the best way of doing this, and > of course, if possible the easiest... > > =C2- > > Is a pain removing all thos > bolts.. > > =C2- > > Thanks for sugestions, > > =C2- > > Bert > > ______________________________________ =C2- > =C2-http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-Listhttp://forums.matronics. comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution >=C2- =C2- > > =nofollow > target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-List > et=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com > llow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > > > > > > > =C2- =C2- =C2- S WEB FORUMS - on Web Site - =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin. =0A=0A=0A ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 19, 2009
From: Robert Murillo <robertrv09(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Leaking
Thanks I will look into robert --- On Wed, 9/16/09, Jeff Orear wrote: From: Jeff Orear <jorear(at)new.rr.com> Subject: Re: RV6-List: Leaking Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 9:17 PM Hi Bert: If I recall correctly, there is a technique where you use a Loctite product (the name escapes me) that is green in color where you put a dab of it in the area of the leak and then apply suction to the tank with a vacuum. -T he sealer gets sucked into the leak.- Do a search in the archives and you should be able to find the specific Loc tite product to use. Regards, Jeff Orear RV6A -N782P Peshtigo, WI On Sep 16, 2009, at 4:03 PM, Robert Murillo wrote: Hi: - My right tank, on my rv6a is leaking,- I tried puting Pro seal on the out side , that does not work. - Need the best way of doing this, and of course, if possible the easiest... - Is a pain removing all thos bolts.. - Thanks for sugestions, - Bert ______________________________________ href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-List">http://www.matronics.c om/Navigator?RV6-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/con tribution =0A=0A=0A ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 19, 2009
From: Roger Edwards <rledwards9(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Leaking tank
Check the fuel sender plate first. these tend to leak and are easy to reseal without removing the tank. If your leak is showing at the fuselage wing intersection. --- On Sat, 9/19/09, Balone Marine wrote: > From: Balone Marine <balone_99(at)yahoo.com> > Subject: RE: RV6-List: Leaking tank > To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com > Date: Saturday, September 19, 2009, 5:06 PM > Balone Marine > > what is your life worth,do the bolts, I know it is a > pain.Every time Irun into a prblem I asked the same > question. > Bud > --- On Fri, 9/18/09, Robert Murillo > wrote: > > > From: Robert Murillo <robertrv09(at)yahoo.com> > > Subject: RE: RV6-List: Leaking tank > > To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com > > Date: Friday, September 18, 2009, 10:14 AM > > Neal: > > > > is on the Inboard, (fuselage) side, along the > > rivet line . > > > > thanks > > > > robert > > > > --- On Wed, 9/16/09, Neal George > > > wrote: > > > > > > From: Neal George <n8zg(at)mchsi.com> > > Subject: RE: RV6-List: Leaking tank > > To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com > > Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 9:48 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bert > > > > Where is it > > leaking? > > At a > > rivet? > > Along a baffle > > seam? > > > > neal > > > > > > From: > > owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com] > On Behalf Of > > Robert Murillo > > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 4:03 PM > > To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com > > Subject: RV6-List: Leaking tank > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi: > > > > > > > > My right tank, on my rv6a is > > leaking, I tried puting Pro seal on the out side , > > that does > > > > not work. > > > > > > > > Need the best way of doing this, and > > of course, if possible the easiest... > > > > > > > > Is a pain removing all thos > > bolts.. > > > > > > > > Thanks for sugestions, > > > > > > > > Bert > > > > ______________________________________ > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-Listhttp://forums.matronics.comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > > > =nofollow > > target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-List > > et=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com > > llow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Forum - > FAQ, > - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - > List Contribution Web Site - > -Matt > Dralle, List Admin. > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 19, 2009
From: Roger Edwards <rledwards9(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Leaking
Yes, I used to use that on my Mooney and it works good on weeps but not running leaks. Not sure it's from Loctite though. Aircraft Spruce? --- On Sat, 9/19/09, Robert Murillo wrote: > From: Robert Murillo <robertrv09(at)yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: RV6-List: Leaking > To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com > Date: Saturday, September 19, 2009, 6:49 PM > Thanks I will look into > robert > > --- On Wed, 9/16/09, Jeff Orear > wrote: > > > From: Jeff Orear <jorear(at)new.rr.com> > Subject: Re: RV6-List: Leaking > To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com > Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 9:17 PM > > > Hi Bert: > > > If I recall correctly, there is a technique where you > use a Loctite product (the name escapes me) that is green in > color where you put a dab of it in the area of the leak and > then apply suction to the tank with a vacuum. The > sealer gets sucked into the leak. > > > Do a search in the archives and you should be able to > find the specific Loctite product to use. > > > Regards, > > > > > Jeff Orear > RV6A N782P > Peshtigo, WI > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 16, 2009, at 4:03 PM, Robert Murillo > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi: > > My right tank, on my rv6a is leaking, I tried > puting Pro seal on the out side , that does > not work. > > Need the best way of doing this, and of course, if > possible the easiest... > > Is a pain removing all thos bolts.. > > Thanks for sugestions, > > Bert > ______________________________________ > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > > =nofollow > target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-List > et=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com > llow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 19, 2009
From: Steven Eberhart <steve(at)newtech.com>
Subject: Re: Leaking tank
Robert Murillo wrote: > > Thanks Bud: > > But the questions I have is, how do you fix the problem,,, I wANT TO > HEAR SOLUTIONS > > how do you seal so lthere is no leaks? > > thanks > > robert > I just fixed mine and was successful in stopping 12 rivets from weeping and/or leaking on the right tank of my RV-7A. I spent far more time trying to come up with an easy fix than it took to fix it once I finally gave up and removed the tank. My procedure was: 1. Order the MK 319 BS Monel pulled rivets from Wicks. 2. Use the extra tank end cover, that Van's sends for the sender you didn't use, as template and cut an access opening in the rear baffle, drill mounting holes and install nut plates. 3. Make a new cover from .040 aluminum. 4. Drill out the leaking rivets. 5. Vacuum out the drill shavings from drilling out the rivets. 6. Mix up Proseal and cover the drilled out rivet holes both inside and outside. 7. Put in the pulled pop rivets. 8. On the inside of the tank, using an acid brush, smear the Proseal liberally over and around the new rivets. 9. Smear Proseal liberally around the sealing surface of the new access cover and over all of the screw holes. 10. Screw the access cover on and set aside for several days while the Proseal cures. 11. Don't worry about the Proseal that you liberally smeared on the outside over the new rivets. 12. After the Proseal has cured, use a single edge razor blade to remove most of the excess Proseal on the outside. Remove the rest with a vibrating sander with 180 grit open coat (grey) sandpaper. 13. I went ahead and re-painted the tank and re-installed it on my plane. 14. You will notice I didn't leak test the tank after the fix. I think my original leak testing was part of the problem. I had already decided that "it is what it is." If it still leaked it was just going to have to leak until Spring. The whole process including the curing of the Proseal took three days. The fix was done in just a few hours. Quit trying to come up with a quick cure and do it right. Steve Eberhart RV-7A, flying since June 24, 2009 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: maurice murillo <maurice609(at)live.com>
Subject: Leaking tank
Date: Sep 20, 2009
Thanks for the suggestion robert > Date: Sat=2C 19 Sep 2009 21:21:57 -0500 > From: steve(at)newtech.com > To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV6-List: Leaking tank > > > Robert Murillo wrote: > > > > Thanks Bud: > > > > But the questions I have is=2C how do you fix the problem=2C=2C=2C I wA NT TO > > HEAR SOLUTIONS > > > > how do you seal so lthere is no leaks? > > > > thanks > > > > robert > > > I just fixed mine and was successful in stopping 12 rivets from weeping > and/or leaking on the right tank of my RV-7A. I spent far more time > trying to come up with an easy fix than it took to fix it once I finally > gave up and removed the tank. > > My procedure was: > 1. Order the MK 319 BS Monel pulled rivets from Wicks. > > 2. Use the extra tank end cover=2C that Van's sends for the sender you > didn't use=2C as template and cut an access opening in the rear baffle=2C > drill mounting holes and install nut plates. > > 3. Make a new cover from .040 aluminum. > > 4. Drill out the leaking rivets. > > 5. Vacuum out the drill shavings from drilling out the rivets. > > 6. Mix up Proseal and cover the drilled out rivet holes both inside and > outside. > > 7. Put in the pulled pop rivets. > > 8. On the inside of the tank=2C using an acid brush=2C smear the Proseal > liberally over and around the new rivets. > > 9. Smear Proseal liberally around the sealing surface of the new access > cover and over all of the screw holes. > > 10. Screw the access cover on and set aside for several days while the > Proseal cures. > > 11. Don't worry about the Proseal that you liberally smeared on the > outside over the new rivets. > > 12. After the Proseal has cured=2C use a single edge razor blade to remov e > most of the excess Proseal on the outside. Remove the rest with a > vibrating sander with 180 grit open coat (grey) sandpaper. > > 13. I went ahead and re-painted the tank and re-installed it on my plane. > > 14. You will notice I didn't leak test the tank after the fix. I think > my original leak testing was part of the problem. I had already decided > that "it is what it is." If it still leaked it was just going to have > to leak until Spring. > > The whole process including the curing of the Proseal took three days. > The fix was done in just a few hours. Quit trying to come up with a > quick cure and do it right. > > Steve Eberhart > RV-7A=2C flying since June 24=2C 2009 > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > =0A _________________________________________________________________=0A Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail=AE.=0A http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tut orial_QuickAdd_062009 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: PeterHunt1(at)aol.com
Date: Sep 21, 2009
Subject: Aerobatics and Instrument Damage
I have completed some excellent Unusual Attitude training in a Cap-10 which included loops, rolls and spins and will soon complete additional aerobatic training. Then I would like to try some of these aerobatics maneuvers in my RV-6. However, I am a little concern that the gyro tumbling and/or G forces of aerobatics may hurt my instruments. I have an AI, HSI and S-TEC autopilot all containing electric gyros and would hate to damage them. What has been your experience with aerobatics and instrument damage? Should I be concerned about this? Pete in Clearwater RV-6, Day/night IFR, Reserve Grand Champion S 'n F ________________________________________________________________________________
From: MnwPeeps(at)aol.com
Date: Sep 23, 2009
Subject: Re: Aerobatics and Instrument Damage
In my humble opinion, aerobatics should not bother your instruments at all. I do a lot of it in my 6, and everything goes on working fine. Four years of it. Morgan In a message dated 9/21/2009 10:22:36 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, PeterHunt1(at)aol.com writes: I have completed some excellent Unusual Attitude training in a Cap-10 which included loops, rolls and spins and will soon complete additional aerobatic training. Then I would like to try some of these aerobatics maneuvers in my RV-6. However, I am a little concern that the gyro tumbling and/or G forces of aerobatics may hurt my instruments. I have an AI, HSI and S-TEC autopilot all containing electric gyros and would hate to damage them. What has been your experience with aerobatics and instrument damage? Should I be concerned about this? Pete in Clearwater RV-6, Day/night IFR, Reserve Grand Champion S 'n F (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-List) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 23, 2009
From: Gary <vanceksh(at)xcelco.on.ca>
Subject: Aerobatics and Instrument Damage
One failed instrument after 5 years, 500 hours, dg...(not high quality to begin with, made by falcon) mix of loops, rolls, clover leafs, also use to do them In a C150 believe it or not, with no instrument failure in 10 years (about 600 hours)..shouldn't be a problem IMHO Gary _____ From: owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of MnwPeeps(at)aol.com Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 9:17 PM Subject: Re: RV6-List: Aerobatics and Instrument Damage In my humble opinion, aerobatics should not bother your instruments at all. I do a lot of it in my 6, and everything goes on working fine. Four years of it. Morgan In a message dated 9/21/2009 10:22:36 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, PeterHunt1(at)aol.com writes: I have completed some excellent Unusual Attitude training in a Cap-10 which included loops, rolls and spins and will soon complete additional aerobatic training. Then I would like to try some of these aerobatics maneuvers in my RV-6. However, I am a little concern that the gyro tumbling and/or G forces of aerobatics may hurt my instruments. I have an AI, HSI and S-TEC autopilot all containing electric gyros and would hate to damage them. What has been your experience with aerobatics and instrument damage? Should I be concerned about this? Pete in Clearwater RV-6, Day/night IFR, Reserve Grand Champion S 'n F =================================== ="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navi gator?RV6-List =================================== ms.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com =================================== tp://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution =================================== 05:52:00 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Scott" <scott(at)randolphs.net>
Subject: RE: Aerobatics and Instrument Damage
Date: Sep 24, 2009
I'm glad it's worked out for others. I went through two attitude indicators in a year doing "light" aerobatics and decided to overhaul my panel to glass. The first one I don't know the history of so it could have been old to start with and on its last legs anyway. But the second was new out of the box and becoming unreliable within a little more than a year of flying. In theory, the rate of turn instruments (turn and bank, etc) should be okay, since they don't care where up is -- just what rate you're turning. But I think there are some absolute hard mechanical limits inside the AIs, at least in pitch. It certainly didn't break on my first loop, but like I say, it didn't last the years and years I expected. When I looked at the price of a "basic" experimental EFIS compared to yet another new AI, it was pretty clear that the days of gyros are numbered. Of course by the time I was done I'd spent significantly more, but my airplane is way more capable too. :) Just another anecdotal data point. Scott. RV6a 800 hrs. ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: SJ Cowl with Standard baffles
Date: Oct 17, 2009
From: "Robin Marks" <robin1(at)mrmoisture.com>
Is there anyone out there flying the Sam James Cowl but using standard baffles in place of a plenum? If so can you please share your comments / results? I have committed to the James cowl on my 8A but don't want to deal with a Plenum (again). Thanks, Robin RV-4 Sold RV-6A Sold RV-10 Flying RV-8A Engine hung ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 01, 2009
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Subject: PLEASE READ - Matronics Email List Fund Raiser During November!
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From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Fund Raiser List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution
Today! Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors (LOC)? As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems at least - if not a whole lot more - valuable as a building/flying/recreating/entertainment tool as your typical magazine subscription! Please take minute and assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics PO Box 347 Livermore CA 94551-0347 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 11, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: List Fund Raiser
Dear Listers, Just a reminder that November is the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser month. There are some very nice incentive gifts to choose from as well! Please make your Contribution today: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 13, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Some Very Nice Comments...
Dear Listers, I've been getting some really nice comments from Listers along with their List Support Contributions. I've shared some of them below. Please read them over and see what your fellow Listers think of the Lists and Forums. Please make a Contribution today to support the continued upgrade and operation of these services. There are lots of sweet gifts available, so browse the extensive selection and pickup a nice item along with your qualifying Contribution. http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you in advance for your generous support! It is very much appreciated! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ----------- What Listers Are Saying About The Lists ----------- Few things in life bring more usefulness than the List. This is worth every penny! Stephen T. I have enjoyed the list for way too many years, but continue to get closer to flying my project with the help of listers. C.L. Thanks for this List. It's been a great source of encouragement and information. Arden A. Great service! Gerald T. It's always interesting reading the lists and I've gotten some good help from the issues and answers there. Steve T. Been a member of the List for 12 years. Keep up the good work. John H. Great Site! Harry M. Great source of information... Martin H. Thanks for providing this great service! Jeff P. I continue to get and give information through these lists. Ralph C. This is a wonderful resource! Warren H. This is what inernet was meant for, sharing information and experience. Michael W. Thanks for making such a good list! Fred D. Thanks for running a great service! Michael F. I really appreciate it. Dan H. Thanks for the great service. Michael L. Thanks for maintaining this great resource. John C. Your sites have been a great resourses and an introduction to many competent aircraft designers and fabricators. Jon M. Thanks for all that you do to maintain the Matronics forums and for the personal help that you have been to me in answering my questions regarding the use of the forums. William B. [The List] helped me get flying, fly off my test hours and make my systems better. Ralph C. The Universe is a better place because of you. Eric J. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 16, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Contributions Down By 21%...
Dear Listers, As of today, contributions to the Matronics List Fund Raiser are lagging behind last year at this time by 21%. I have a fund raiser each year simply to cover my operating costs for the Lists. I *do not* accept any advertising income to support the Lists and rely solely on the contributions of members to keep the expenses paid. I run all of my own servers and they are housed here locally, and the Internet connection is a commercial-grade, T1 connection with public address space. I also maintain a full backup system that does nightly backups of all List-related data so that in the event of a server crash or worse, all of the Lists and the many years of List archive data could be restored onto a new server in a matter of hours. All of this costs a fair amount of money, not to mention a significant amount of my personal time as well. I have a Fund Raiser each year to cover these costs and I ask that members that feel they receive a benefit from my investments, make a modest contribution each year to support the continued operation and upgrade of these services. If you enjoy the Lists, please make a contribution today. I also offer some incentive gifts for larger contribution levels. At the Contribution Web Wite, you can use a credit card, Paypal, or personal check to show your support for the continuation of these services: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 18, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: What's My Contribution Used For?
Dear Listers, Some have asked, "What's my Contribution used for?" and that's a good question. Here are just a few examples of what your direct List support enables. It provides for the very expensive, commercial-grade T1 Internet connection used on the List insuring maximum performance and minimal contention when accessing List services. It pays for the regular system hardware and software upgrades enabling the highest performance possible for services such as the Archive Search Engine, List Browser, and Forums. It pays for narly 20 years (yeah, I really said *20* years) worth of online archive data available for instant random search and access. And, it offsets the many hours spent writing, developing, and maintaining the custom applications that power this List Service such as the List Browse, Search Engine, Forums, and Wiki. But most importantly, your List Contribution enables a forum where you and your peers can communicate freely in an environment that is free from moderation, censorship, advertising, commercialism, SPAM, and computer viruses. How many places on the Internet can you make all those statements these days? It is YOUR CONTRIBUTION that directly enables these many aspects of these valuable List services. Please support it today with your List Contribution. Its one of the best investments you can make in your Sport... List Contribution Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 20, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just A Few Days Left; Still Trailing Last Year...
Dear Listers, There are just a few more days left of this year's List Fund Raiser! Response has been very good, but still well behind last year. If you've been waiting until the last minute to make your contribution and maybe even pick up a great gift, now might be good time to show your support! Please remember that there isn't any sort of commercial advertising on the Lists and the *only* means of keeping these Lists running is through your Contributions during this Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution today! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 22, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published in
December! Dear Listers, The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matronics / Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore CA 94551-0347 USA (Please include your email address on the check!) I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 24, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just A Few More Days To Make Your List Contribution...
There is less than a week left in this year's List Fund Raiser and only a few short days to grab one of the great Contribution Gifts available this year. Support is still significantly lagging behind last year at this point but hopefully it will pick up here towards the end. Please remember that it is solely the Contributions of List members that keeps the Lists up and running as there is no commercialism or advertising on the Matronics Lists and Forums. The List Contribution web site is secure, fast, and easy and you can use a credit card, Paypal, or a personal check: http://www.matronics.com/contribution I want to thank everyone that has already made a generous contribution to support the Lists! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics EMail List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 26, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: What Are You Thankful For...?
Dear Listers, Here in the United States, Thursday is our National day of Thanksgiving. Many of us will be traveling to be with our families and friends to share in generous feasts of plenty and giving thanks for many blessings that have been bestowed upon us. Many Listers have expressed over the last couple of weeks how thankful they are for the Email Lists and Forums here on the Matronics servers and for all of the assistance and comradery they have experienced being a part of the Lists. One of my favorite comments is when someone writes to me and says something like, "Its the first thing I do in the morning while I'm having my morning coffee!". That's a wonderful tribute to the purpose and function of these Lists. Its always great to hear I'm not the only one that jumps out of bed each morning to check my List email!! Won't you take a minute today and show your appreciation for these Lists and for their continued operation and upgrade? The List Contribution Site is: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you in advance for your kind consideration, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 28, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: No "Black Friday" For List Fund Raiser...
Even though the number of List subscriptions and List posts are up significantly

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