RVSouthEast-Archive.digest.vol-ac
September 16, 2004 - October 12, 2004
>
>
>>
>>
>> Larry Vetterman suggested the turn downs -- the way his exhaust use to
>> be.
>> Right now things are so loud, I'd give up five knots for some relief.
>> I'll try some insulation first.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> -
>> Larry Bowen
>> Larry(at)BowenAero.com
>> http://BowenAero.com
>>
>> Dennis & Lori Millsap said:
>>>
>>>
>>> Dennis says that he's noticed that he should add more foam to the side
>>> panels--more for noise than anything. He treated the firewall primarily
>>> for
>>> heat (he thought) but it's the noise that gets ya.
>>>
>>> What do you mean by "turn downs"? Dennis cut his exhaust pipes off. You
>>> don't want them hanging down in the airstream. Let them be loud, but
>>> for
>>> goodness sake, don't let them slow ya down! GRIN!
>>>
>>> Actually, it puts undue stress on your exhaust system having them
>>> hanging
>>> out in the wind. Dennis broke a bracket or two before he cut them off.
>>>
>>> Lori
>>> N464DM, RV-6A, 300+ hours
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
>>> To:
>>> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I ordered this last night:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/dampingpanels.php
>>>>
>>>> Does dampening the firewall give the most gain for the effort? Or do
>>>> the
>>>> sidewalls need to be done too?
>>>>
>>>> I'm thinking of getting some turn-downs for the exhaust pipes too...
>>>>
>>>> -
>>>> Larry Bowen
>>>> Larry(at)BowenAero.com
>>>> http://BowenAero.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>> > From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly(at)carolina.rr.com]
>>>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 9:17 PM
>>>> > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
>>>> > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>>> >
>>>> > -->
>>>> >
>>>> > Mike and I used Koolmat Heat Barrier from Spruce around page 123.
>>>> >
>>>> > Used spray glue to hold it in place, no problems so far.
>>>> > Just cut and paste!
>>>> >
>>>> > Sorry to hear of the latest problem, better to quit after
>>>> > start than after takeoff. I promise after you have done your
>>>> > time (40 hours) you will just fly it and put it to bed. I
>>>> > know you can't wait.
>>>> >
>>>> > Steve
>>>> >
>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>> > From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
>>>> > To:
>>>> > Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Thanks.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > I'm down for now. I had to send the Rose ignition module
>>>> > back. It quite
>>>> > > Sunday shortly after start-up. Anyway, I'm taking the
>>>> > opportunity to
>>>> > > tweak
>>>> > > some things and sound proof the firewall. Boy that thing
>>>> > is loud!! Any
>>>> > > tips for me related to sound-proofing? Anyone? Bueller?
>>>> > >
>>>> > > -
>>>> > > Larry Bowen
>>>> > > Larry(at)BowenAero.com
>>>> > > http://BowenAero.com
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >> -----Original Message-----
>>>> > >> From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly(at)carolina.rr.com]
>>>> > >> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 8:23 PM
>>>> > >> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
>>>> > >> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> -->
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> They are very small! A spec for sure!
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> I even had them in OSH during preflight before I left.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Again congrats on the event and many more to come.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Steve
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> > >> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
>>>> > >> To:
>>>> > >> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> >
>>>> > >> >
>>>> > >> > Like corn flakes sized flakes? Or specs? Proseal is
>>>> > >> blakish, but doesn't
>>>> > >> > break down from fuel. Maybe it's from the fuel truck or
>>>> > >> inground tank.
>>>> > >> > I'd
>>>> > >> > monitor to try to establish a trend, if any......
>>>> > >> >
>>>> > >> > -
>>>> > >> > Larry Bowen
>>>> > >> > Larry(at)BowenAero.com
>>>> > >> > http://BowenAero.com
>>>> > >> >
>>>> > >> >
>>>> > >> >> -----Original Message-----
>>>> > >> >> From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly(at)carolina.rr.com]
>>>> > >> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 4:46 PM
>>>> > >> >> To: SERV
>>>> > >> >> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>>> > >> >>
>>>> > >> >> -->
>>>> > >> >>
>>>> > >> >> During preflight when the aircraft has set for some time,
>>>> > >> >> when I drain fuel from under the wing I find some brown or
>>>> > >> >> blackish flakes. It takes about 6 ounces of draining to
>>>> > >> >> clear up the flakes.
>>>> > >> >>
>>>> > >> >> Has anyone experienced something similar?
>>>> > >> >>
>>>> > >> >> I have a OB 8. Could it be the tanks sealer is dissolving?
>>>> > >> >>
>>>> > >> >> Thanks,
>>>> > >> >>
>>>> > >> >> Steve Glasgow
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| Subject: | Re: Noise (was Flakes in fuel) |
Larry
are you still using that in-the-ear headset? I was just wondering if
that's the best choice for a noisy plane like an RV. I bought the
lightspeed crosscountry anr headset and the noise doesn't seem too bad
to me as a new rv driver. Actually, not bad at all, even with the anr
turned off. I haven't done anything to the firewall. My exhaust pipes
do have an angled section at the ends. is that the turn down you're
talking about?
Robert Dickson
RV-6A 0-360, CS
21 hours, new cylinder #3 back tomorrow, I hope.
On Sep 16, 2004, at 7:42 AM, Larry Bowen wrote:
>
>
> Larry Vetterman suggested the turn downs -- the way his exhaust use to
> be.
> Right now things are so loud, I'd give up five knots for some relief.
> I'll try some insulation first.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry(at)BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
>
> Dennis & Lori Millsap said:
>>
>>
>> Dennis says that he's noticed that he should add more foam to the side
>> panels--more for noise than anything. He treated the firewall
>> primarily
>> for
>> heat (he thought) but it's the noise that gets ya.
>>
>> What do you mean by "turn downs"? Dennis cut his exhaust pipes off.
>> You
>> don't want them hanging down in the airstream. Let them be loud, but
>> for
>> goodness sake, don't let them slow ya down! GRIN!
>>
>> Actually, it puts undue stress on your exhaust system having them
>> hanging
>> out in the wind. Dennis broke a bracket or two before he cut them off.
>>
>> Lori
>> N464DM, RV-6A, 300+ hours
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
>> To:
>> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I ordered this last night:
>>>
>>> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/dampingpanels.php
>>>
>>> Does dampening the firewall give the most gain for the effort? Or do
>>> the
>>> sidewalls need to be done too?
>>>
>>> I'm thinking of getting some turn-downs for the exhaust pipes too...
>>>
>>> -
>>> Larry Bowen
>>> Larry(at)BowenAero.com
>>> http://BowenAero.com
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly(at)carolina.rr.com]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 9:17 PM
>>>> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
>>>> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>>>
>>>> -->
>>>>
>>>> Mike and I used Koolmat Heat Barrier from Spruce around page 123.
>>>>
>>>> Used spray glue to hold it in place, no problems so far.
>>>> Just cut and paste!
>>>>
>>>> Sorry to hear of the latest problem, better to quit after
>>>> start than after takeoff. I promise after you have done your
>>>> time (40 hours) you will just fly it and put it to bed. I
>>>> know you can't wait.
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
>>>> To:
>>>> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm down for now. I had to send the Rose ignition module
>>>> back. It quite
>>>>> Sunday shortly after start-up. Anyway, I'm taking the
>>>> opportunity to
>>>>> tweak
>>>>> some things and sound proof the firewall. Boy that thing
>>>> is loud!! Any
>>>>> tips for me related to sound-proofing? Anyone? Bueller?
>>>>>
>>>>> -
>>>>> Larry Bowen
>>>>> Larry(at)BowenAero.com
>>>>> http://BowenAero.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly(at)carolina.rr.com]
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 8:23 PM
>>>>>> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They are very small! A spec for sure!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I even had them in OSH during preflight before I left.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Again congrats on the event and many more to come.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
>>>>>> To:
>>>>>> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Like corn flakes sized flakes? Or specs? Proseal is
>>>>>> blakish, but doesn't
>>>>>>> break down from fuel. Maybe it's from the fuel truck or
>>>>>> inground tank.
>>>>>>> I'd
>>>>>>> monitor to try to establish a trend, if any......
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>> Larry Bowen
>>>>>>> Larry(at)BowenAero.com
>>>>>>> http://BowenAero.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly(at)carolina.rr.com]
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 4:46 PM
>>>>>>>> To: SERV
>>>>>>>> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> During preflight when the aircraft has set for some time,
>>>>>>>> when I drain fuel from under the wing I find some brown or
>>>>>>>> blackish flakes. It takes about 6 ounces of draining to
>>>>>>>> clear up the flakes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Has anyone experienced something similar?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have a OB 8. Could it be the tanks sealer is dissolving?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Steve Glasgow
>>>>>>>>
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| From: | "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Noise (was Flakes in fuel) |
Koolmat has a fireproof rubbery like material on one side the side toward
the back of the airplane and fiberglass impregnated on the side toward the
firewall. It is much more substantive and stops almost all the oil canning
of the firewall.
I have a piece for you, where do I send it. I will get it in today's mail
if you send me an address ASAP.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Noise (was Flakes in fuel)
>
>
> How is the coolmat different? Do you have a piece of scrap left I could
> see?
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry(at)BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
>
> Steve Glasgow said:
>>
>>
>> Larry, I'm not happy with your choice of insulation. I got some of the
>> one
>> you are getting and some of the Koolmat before I decided. If I not
>> mistaken
>> the Koolmat is far superior.
>>
>> Just my thought.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
>> To:
>> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Noise (was Flakes in fuel)
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Larry Vetterman suggested the turn downs -- the way his exhaust use to
>>> be.
>>> Right now things are so loud, I'd give up five knots for some relief.
>>> I'll try some insulation first.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> -
>>> Larry Bowen
>>> Larry(at)BowenAero.com
>>> http://BowenAero.com
>>>
>>> Dennis & Lori Millsap said:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dennis says that he's noticed that he should add more foam to the side
>>>> panels--more for noise than anything. He treated the firewall primarily
>>>> for
>>>> heat (he thought) but it's the noise that gets ya.
>>>>
>>>> What do you mean by "turn downs"? Dennis cut his exhaust pipes off. You
>>>> don't want them hanging down in the airstream. Let them be loud, but
>>>> for
>>>> goodness sake, don't let them slow ya down! GRIN!
>>>>
>>>> Actually, it puts undue stress on your exhaust system having them
>>>> hanging
>>>> out in the wind. Dennis broke a bracket or two before he cut them off.
>>>>
>>>> Lori
>>>> N464DM, RV-6A, 300+ hours
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
>>>> To:
>>>> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I ordered this last night:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/dampingpanels.php
>>>>>
>>>>> Does dampening the firewall give the most gain for the effort? Or do
>>>>> the
>>>>> sidewalls need to be done too?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm thinking of getting some turn-downs for the exhaust pipes too...
>>>>>
>>>>> -
>>>>> Larry Bowen
>>>>> Larry(at)BowenAero.com
>>>>> http://BowenAero.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>>> > From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly(at)carolina.rr.com]
>>>>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 9:17 PM
>>>>> > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
>>>>> > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>>>> >
>>>>> > -->
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Mike and I used Koolmat Heat Barrier from Spruce around page 123.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Used spray glue to hold it in place, no problems so far.
>>>>> > Just cut and paste!
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Sorry to hear of the latest problem, better to quit after
>>>>> > start than after takeoff. I promise after you have done your
>>>>> > time (40 hours) you will just fly it and put it to bed. I
>>>>> > know you can't wait.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Steve
>>>>> >
>>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> > From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
>>>>> > To:
>>>>> > Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Thanks.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > I'm down for now. I had to send the Rose ignition module
>>>>> > back. It quite
>>>>> > > Sunday shortly after start-up. Anyway, I'm taking the
>>>>> > opportunity to
>>>>> > > tweak
>>>>> > > some things and sound proof the firewall. Boy that thing
>>>>> > is loud!! Any
>>>>> > > tips for me related to sound-proofing? Anyone? Bueller?
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > -
>>>>> > > Larry Bowen
>>>>> > > Larry(at)BowenAero.com
>>>>> > > http://BowenAero.com
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> > >> From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly(at)carolina.rr.com]
>>>>> > >> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 8:23 PM
>>>>> > >> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
>>>>> > >> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> -->
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> They are very small! A spec for sure!
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> I even had them in OSH during preflight before I left.
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> Again congrats on the event and many more to come.
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> Steve
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> > >> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
>>>>> > >> To:
>>>>> > >> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> >
>>>>> > >> >
>>>>> > >> > Like corn flakes sized flakes? Or specs? Proseal is
>>>>> > >> blakish, but doesn't
>>>>> > >> > break down from fuel. Maybe it's from the fuel truck or
>>>>> > >> inground tank.
>>>>> > >> > I'd
>>>>> > >> > monitor to try to establish a trend, if any......
>>>>> > >> >
>>>>> > >> > -
>>>>> > >> > Larry Bowen
>>>>> > >> > Larry(at)BowenAero.com
>>>>> > >> > http://BowenAero.com
>>>>> > >> >
>>>>> > >> >
>>>>> > >> >> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> > >> >> From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly(at)carolina.rr.com]
>>>>> > >> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 4:46 PM
>>>>> > >> >> To: SERV
>>>>> > >> >> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>>>> > >> >>
>>>>> > >> >> -->
>>>>> > >> >>
>>>>> > >> >> During preflight when the aircraft has set for some time,
>>>>> > >> >> when I drain fuel from under the wing I find some brown or
>>>>> > >> >> blackish flakes. It takes about 6 ounces of draining to
>>>>> > >> >> clear up the flakes.
>>>>> > >> >>
>>>>> > >> >> Has anyone experienced something similar?
>>>>> > >> >>
>>>>> > >> >> I have a OB 8. Could it be the tanks sealer is dissolving?
>>>>> > >> >>
>>>>> > >> >> Thanks,
>>>>> > >> >>
>>>>> > >> >> Steve Glasgow
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| Subject: | Re: Noise (was Flakes in fuel) |
| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
I plan on using those, but right now I'm using the new pair of Telex
ANR's. The stick-it-in-your-ear headsets worked fine as passenger in
Len's plane. He just has firewall insulation, I think.
Thanks,
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
Robert Dickson said:
> <robert@thenews-journal.com>
>
> Larry
> are you still using that in-the-ear headset? I was just wondering if
> that's the best choice for a noisy plane like an RV. I bought the
> lightspeed crosscountry anr headset and the noise doesn't seem too bad
> to me as a new rv driver. Actually, not bad at all, even with the anr
> turned off. I haven't done anything to the firewall. My exhaust pipes
> do have an angled section at the ends. is that the turn down you're
> talking about?
>
> Robert Dickson
> RV-6A 0-360, CS
> 21 hours, new cylinder #3 back tomorrow, I hope.
>
>
> On Sep 16, 2004, at 7:42 AM, Larry Bowen wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Larry Vetterman suggested the turn downs -- the way his exhaust use to
>> be.
>> Right now things are so loud, I'd give up five knots for some relief.
>> I'll try some insulation first.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> -
>> Larry Bowen
>> Larry(at)BowenAero.com
>> http://BowenAero.com
>>
>> Dennis & Lori Millsap said:
>>>
>>>
>>> Dennis says that he's noticed that he should add more foam to the side
>>> panels--more for noise than anything. He treated the firewall
>>> primarily
>>> for
>>> heat (he thought) but it's the noise that gets ya.
>>>
>>> What do you mean by "turn downs"? Dennis cut his exhaust pipes off.
>>> You
>>> don't want them hanging down in the airstream. Let them be loud, but
>>> for
>>> goodness sake, don't let them slow ya down! GRIN!
>>>
>>> Actually, it puts undue stress on your exhaust system having them
>>> hanging
>>> out in the wind. Dennis broke a bracket or two before he cut them off.
>>>
>>> Lori
>>> N464DM, RV-6A, 300+ hours
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
>>> To:
>>> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I ordered this last night:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/dampingpanels.php
>>>>
>>>> Does dampening the firewall give the most gain for the effort? Or do
>>>> the
>>>> sidewalls need to be done too?
>>>>
>>>> I'm thinking of getting some turn-downs for the exhaust pipes too...
>>>>
>>>> -
>>>> Larry Bowen
>>>> Larry(at)BowenAero.com
>>>> http://BowenAero.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly(at)carolina.rr.com]
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 9:17 PM
>>>>> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>>>>
>>>>> -->
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike and I used Koolmat Heat Barrier from Spruce around page 123.
>>>>>
>>>>> Used spray glue to hold it in place, no problems so far.
>>>>> Just cut and paste!
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry to hear of the latest problem, better to quit after
>>>>> start than after takeoff. I promise after you have done your
>>>>> time (40 hours) you will just fly it and put it to bed. I
>>>>> know you can't wait.
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
>>>>> To:
>>>>> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm down for now. I had to send the Rose ignition module
>>>>> back. It quite
>>>>>> Sunday shortly after start-up. Anyway, I'm taking the
>>>>> opportunity to
>>>>>> tweak
>>>>>> some things and sound proof the firewall. Boy that thing
>>>>> is loud!! Any
>>>>>> tips for me related to sound-proofing? Anyone? Bueller?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -
>>>>>> Larry Bowen
>>>>>> Larry(at)BowenAero.com
>>>>>> http://BowenAero.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly(at)carolina.rr.com]
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 8:23 PM
>>>>>>> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They are very small! A spec for sure!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I even had them in OSH during preflight before I left.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Again congrats on the event and many more to come.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
>>>>>>> To:
>>>>>>> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Like corn flakes sized flakes? Or specs? Proseal is
>>>>>>> blakish, but doesn't
>>>>>>>> break down from fuel. Maybe it's from the fuel truck or
>>>>>>> inground tank.
>>>>>>>> I'd
>>>>>>>> monitor to try to establish a trend, if any......
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>> Larry Bowen
>>>>>>>> Larry(at)BowenAero.com
>>>>>>>> http://BowenAero.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly(at)carolina.rr.com]
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 4:46 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: SERV
>>>>>>>>> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> During preflight when the aircraft has set for some time,
>>>>>>>>> when I drain fuel from under the wing I find some brown or
>>>>>>>>> blackish flakes. It takes about 6 ounces of draining to
>>>>>>>>> clear up the flakes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Has anyone experienced something similar?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have a OB 8. Could it be the tanks sealer is dissolving?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Steve Glasgow
>>>>>>>>>
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| From: | "James E. Clark" <james(at)nextupventures.com> |
| Subject: | Noise (was Flakes in fuel) |
Larry,
Someone once told me the cheapest noise insulation kit for an RV is a set of
Bose (or insert your favorites) noise cancelling headsets.
We have some noise deadening stuff in our RV6 but if you take the headsets
off it is STILL loud!
I have used both the Bose Series X (best feel to me) and the DRE 6000 (best
value to me) . Both (and I am sure MANY others) are fine.
James
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Noise (was Flakes in fuel) |
| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
Got 'em. I have the high-end Telex ANR's. It was loud with the ANR on;
off, my ears started bleeding. Just kidding....
Thanks,
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
James E. Clark said:
>
>
> Larry,
>
> Someone once told me the cheapest noise insulation kit for an RV is a set
> of
> Bose (or insert your favorites) noise cancelling headsets.
>
> We have some noise deadening stuff in our RV6 but if you take the headsets
> off it is STILL loud!
>
> I have used both the Bose Series X (best feel to me) and the DRE 6000
> (best
> value to me) . Both (and I am sure MANY others) are fine.
>
>
> James
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | [Fwd: AOPA ePilot -- North Carolina Airspace Bulletin] |
| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
FYI
============
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| From: | SportAV8R(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Flakes in fuel |
Larry: I am sorry to hear you have joined the ranks of electronic ignition owners
who have had unexpected trouble. I know exactly what that's like :-(
I sent my Rose module back on a one-way trip to Chattanooga a long time ago, about
halfway through my test period, and have been happily flying along behind
dual mags ever since. (It's all in the archives...) I burn more fuel, have less
horsepower, and use expensive aviation plugs, but I sleep well at night and
I don't anticipate getting stuck in the Bahamas with an ignition problem .
I wish these things worked as claimed 100% of the time, as I'd happily be a
customer. I would love to have all the pruported benefits with no reliability
hassles, but after a faulty experience, I remain gun-shy about these ignitions.
To paraphrase one father in ancient times, "Jeff, Klaus: I _want_ to believe.
Help thou my unbelief!" Meanwhile the LASAR is the only one that turns
my head even for a moment.
Hope you get it all ironed out. At least you won't have to split the case to solve
this one :-)
I'm hunkered down waiting for the rain to hit, and for the UPS man to bring my
blank instrument panel from Van's, so I can repair to the Bat Cave for top secret
panel upgrades...
-Stormy
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | SportAV8R(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Noise (was Flakes in fuel) |
Just as I suspected; your problem is Flakes in the cockpit!
>>Right now things are so loud, I'd give up five knots for some relief. <<
What kind of statement is that?! This is about SPEED, Larry, not your ears. Grow
a pair (of ear plugs) and flog that new rocket for all she's worth. To heck
with the decibels; we've got knots!!!!! YEE-HAW!
-Stormy (too much coffee this morning, I guess)
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| From: | "BOB martin" <libertyva(at)msn.com> |
| Subject: | Jeff Rose Ignition |
I recently heard the JR has stopped selling his
systems but will continue to service those fielded.
Larry,
I too am sorry to hear about your electronic ignition problems.
Like Stormy, I'm running2 mags and would love to install an electronic
ignition system, but everytime I hear about a problem it makes me glad to
have the basic "old" sysytem.
Good Luck,
Bob Martin
ps..I use Lightspeed ANR's.....and yes it is LOUD if I take them
off....actually deafening!!
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Wayne Williams" <rwayne(at)gamewood.net> |
Larry:
I did the firewall and floor. I came back and added the floor more for
vibration, but it helped with noise, too.
Wayne
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Steve
Glasgow
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
Larry I really don't know about the sides. Mine are not done and I don't
seem to have a problem.
Do you have the Viterman EX? I experimented with some down turns but never
flew with them. Do you get exhaust stains on the belly and or oil. I'm
told almost all RV get some. On mine I found I could minimize it by
adjusting the exhaust stacks. You might check with Dan he even has some
kind of muffler on his.
Do you use a noise CNX headset. Mine works well to combat the noise.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>
>
> I ordered this last night:
>
> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/dampingpanels.php
>
> Does dampening the firewall give the most gain for the effort? Or do the
> sidewalls need to be done too?
>
> I'm thinking of getting some turn-downs for the exhaust pipes too...
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry(at)BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly(at)carolina.rr.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 9:17 PM
>> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>
>> -->
>>
>> Mike and I used Koolmat Heat Barrier from Spruce around page 123.
>>
>> Used spray glue to hold it in place, no problems so far.
>> Just cut and paste!
>>
>> Sorry to hear of the latest problem, better to quit after
>> start than after takeoff. I promise after you have done your
>> time (40 hours) you will just fly it and put it to bed. I
>> know you can't wait.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
>> To:
>> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> > I'm down for now. I had to send the Rose ignition module
>> back. It quite
>> > Sunday shortly after start-up. Anyway, I'm taking the
>> opportunity to
>> > tweak
>> > some things and sound proof the firewall. Boy that thing
>> is loud!! Any
>> > tips for me related to sound-proofing? Anyone? Bueller?
>> >
>> > -
>> > Larry Bowen
>> > Larry(at)BowenAero.com
>> > http://BowenAero.com
>> >
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly(at)carolina.rr.com]
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 8:23 PM
>> >> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
>> >> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>> >>
>> >> -->
>> >>
>> >> They are very small! A spec for sure!
>> >>
>> >> I even had them in OSH during preflight before I left.
>> >>
>> >> Again congrats on the event and many more to come.
>> >>
>> >> Steve
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
>> >> To:
>> >> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Like corn flakes sized flakes? Or specs? Proseal is
>> >> blakish, but doesn't
>> >> > break down from fuel. Maybe it's from the fuel truck or
>> >> inground tank.
>> >> > I'd
>> >> > monitor to try to establish a trend, if any......
>> >> >
>> >> > -
>> >> > Larry Bowen
>> >> > Larry(at)BowenAero.com
>> >> > http://BowenAero.com
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >> From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly(at)carolina.rr.com]
>> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 4:46 PM
>> >> >> To: SERV
>> >> >> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>> >> >>
>> >> >> -->
>> >> >>
>> >> >> During preflight when the aircraft has set for some time,
>> >> >> when I drain fuel from under the wing I find some brown or
>> >> >> blackish flakes. It takes about 6 ounces of draining to
>> >> >> clear up the flakes.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Has anyone experienced something similar?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I have a OB 8. Could it be the tanks sealer is dissolving?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Steve Glasgow
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ============
>> >> >> Matronics Forums.
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| Subject: | Re: Flakes in fuel |
In a message dated 9/15/2004 4:47:09 PM Eastern Standard Time,
willfly(at)carolina.rr.com writes:
> I have a OB 8. Could it be the tanks sealer is dissolving?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve Glasgow
>
Steve:
Sounds like a little bit of proseal may be coming out ... you could easiely
remove the tank drain completely and drain several gallons out ... or when you
get the tanks down in fuel ... pull out the tank drain and let the last few
gallons completely wash out the wing ..
Len
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Radomir - Virginia Fly In |
Radomir:
If by some miracle we get to go on Sunday ... we can talk by email on
Saturday. You can also call me at home : 336-605-4762.
I am on the west coast until Friday night.
Len
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Radomir - Virginia Fly In |
The web site for the Virginia Fly In shows canceled both days and no mention
of a rain date.
Steve Glasgow
----- Original Message -----
From: <Lenleg(at)aol.com>
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Radomir - Virginia Fly In
>
> Radomir:
>
> If by some miracle we get to go on Sunday ... we can talk by email on
> Saturday. You can also call me at home : 336-605-4762.
>
> I am on the west coast until Friday night.
>
> Len
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Fwd: [RV-8] Carolina Sport Flyers Annual Fall Fly-in |
In a message dated 9/17/2004 7:48:24 AM Eastern Standard Time,
patches11us(at)yahoo.com writes:
> :~)
> Carolina Sport Flyers Annual fall fly-in
> October 15th,16th &17th 2004
> Lee County Airport(52j)Bishopville,SC
> http://www.airnav.com/airport/52j
>
> Food and drinks served all day on Sat 16th by a local church with all
> proceeds going to the church to help with a rebuild.
>
> Any one that flies in will receive a attendance desk plaque
> Young eagles rides on Sat 16th
> Ultralight/Sport planes on display and flying
> Intro flight lessons
> Ultralight/ Sportplane dealers
>
> We will also be doing trophys and ribbons again this year on Sat 16th.
> Farthest Distance Flown
> Oldest 2 place
> Oldest single place
> Best in show
> Best 2 place
> Best single place
> Crowd favorite
>
> Also we we be selling raffle tickets for some neat prizes.
> Thanks to all who came last year and Hope to see you all here again
> this year. Pass the word!!!!
>
> For more Info:
> John Davis
> patches11us@y...
>
From: "John W.Davis" <patches11us(at)yahoo.com>
List-Unsubscribe:
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 11:18:23 -0000
Subject: [RV-8] Carolina Sport Flyers Annual Fall Fly-in
:~)
Carolina Sport Flyers Annual fall fly-in
October 15th,16th & 17th 2004
Lee County Airport(52j)Bishopville,SC
http://www.airnav.com/airport/52j
Food and drinks served all day on Sat 16th by a local church with all
proceeds going to the church to help with a rebuild.
Any one that flies in will receive a attendance desk plaque
Young eagles rides on Sat 16th
Ultralight/Sport planes on display and flying
Intro flight lessons
Ultralight/ Sportplane dealers
We will also be doing trophys and ribbons again this year on Sat 16th.
Farthest Distance Flown
Oldest 2 place
Oldest single place
Best in show
Best 2 place
Best single place
Crowd favorite
Also we we be selling raffle tickets for some neat prizes.
Thanks to all who came last year and Hope to see you all here again
this year. Pass the word!!!!
For more Info:
John Davis
patches11us@y...
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| From: | "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Fwd: [RV-8] Carolina Sport Flyers Annual Fall Fly-in |
This could be fun!
Steve Glasgow
----- Original Message -----
From: <Lenleg(at)aol.com>
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Fwd: [RV-8] Carolina Sport Flyers Annual Fall
Fly-in
>
> In a message dated 9/17/2004 7:48:24 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> patches11us(at)yahoo.com writes:
>
>> :~)
>> Carolina Sport Flyers Annual fall fly-in
>> October 15th,16th &17th 2004
>> Lee County Airport(52j)Bishopville,SC
>> http://www.airnav.com/airport/52j
>>
>> Food and drinks served all day on Sat 16th by a local church with all
>> proceeds going to the church to help with a rebuild.
>>
>> Any one that flies in will receive a attendance desk plaque
>> Young eagles rides on Sat 16th
>> Ultralight/Sport planes on display and flying
>> Intro flight lessons
>> Ultralight/ Sportplane dealers
>>
>> We will also be doing trophys and ribbons again this year on Sat 16th.
>> Farthest Distance Flown
>> Oldest 2 place
>> Oldest single place
>> Best in show
>> Best 2 place
>> Best single place
>> Crowd favorite
>>
>> Also we we be selling raffle tickets for some neat prizes.
>> Thanks to all who came last year and Hope to see you all here again
>> this year. Pass the word!!!!
>>
>> For more Info:
>> John Davis
>> patches11us@y...
>>
>
>
> To: RV-8(at)yahoogroups.com
> From: "John W.Davis" <patches11us(at)yahoo.com>
> List-Unsubscribe:
> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 11:18:23 -0000
> Subject: [RV-8] Carolina Sport Flyers Annual Fall Fly-in
>
>
> :~)
> Carolina Sport Flyers Annual fall fly-in
> October 15th,16th & 17th 2004
> Lee County Airport(52j)Bishopville,SC
> http://www.airnav.com/airport/52j
>
> Food and drinks served all day on Sat 16th by a local church with all
> proceeds going to the church to help with a rebuild.
>
> Any one that flies in will receive a attendance desk plaque
> Young eagles rides on Sat 16th
> Ultralight/Sport planes on display and flying
> Intro flight lessons
> Ultralight/ Sportplane dealers
>
> We will also be doing trophys and ribbons again this year on Sat 16th.
> Farthest Distance Flown
> Oldest 2 place
> Oldest single place
> Best in show
> Best 2 place
> Best single place
> Crowd favorite
>
> Also we we be selling raffle tickets for some neat prizes.
> Thanks to all who came last year and Hope to see you all here again
> this year. Pass the word!!!!
>
> For more Info:
> John Davis
> patches11us@y...
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Guys:
I have been in the Northwest all week .... all I have seen is rain ... every
single day ..
now I am heading back home to NC and it is going to rain for a week ....
Can someone tell me what a blue sky looks like !!!
Len Leggette, RV-8A
Greensboro, NC N910LL
275 hrs
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Sargentclt(at)cs.com |
| Subject: | Re: Noise (was Flakes in fuel) |
Steve I notices your address is carolina. I bought the 3/4in mat for the firewall
and plan to use it. After paying $60 for 6 feet I found a place in Huntersville
that sells 3/8 mat for $7. The name is Muscle Motorsports. They are a
NASCAR outlet. Yes it is the same material.
Tad 7A
"Steve Glasgow" wrote:
>
>Koolmat has a fireproof rubbery like material on one side the side toward
>the back of the airplane and fiberglass impregnated on the side toward the
>firewall. It is much more substantive and stops almost all the oil canning
>of the firewall.
>
>I have a piece for you, where do I send it. I will get it in today's mail
>if you send me an address ASAP.
>
>Steve
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
>To:
>Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Noise (was Flakes in fuel)
>
>
>>
>>
>> How is the coolmat different? Do you have a piece of scrap left I could
>> see?
>>
>> -
>> Larry Bowen
>> Larry(at)BowenAero.com
>> http://BowenAero.com
>>
>> Steve Glasgow said:
>>>
>>>
>>> Larry, I'm not happy with your choice of insulation. I got some of the
>>> one
>>> you are getting and some of the Koolmat before I decided. If I not
>>> mistaken
>>> the Koolmat is far superior.
>>>
>>> Just my thought.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
>>> To:
>>> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Noise (was Flakes in fuel)
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Larry Vetterman suggested the turn downs -- the way his exhaust use to
>>>> be.
>>>> Right now things are so loud, I'd give up five knots for some relief.
>>>> I'll try some insulation first.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> -
>>>> Larry Bowen
>>>> Larry(at)BowenAero.com
>>>> http://BowenAero.com
>>>>
>>>> Dennis & Lori Millsap said:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dennis says that he's noticed that he should add more foam to the side
>>>>> panels--more for noise than anything. He treated the firewall primarily
>>>>> for
>>>>> heat (he thought) but it's the noise that gets ya.
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you mean by "turn downs"? Dennis cut his exhaust pipes off. You
>>>>> don't want them hanging down in the airstream. Let them be loud, but
>>>>> for
>>>>> goodness sake, don't let them slow ya down! GRIN!
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually, it puts undue stress on your exhaust system having them
>>>>> hanging
>>>>> out in the wind. Dennis broke a bracket or two before he cut them off.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lori
>>>>> N464DM, RV-6A, 300+ hours
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
>>>>> To:
>>>>> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I ordered this last night:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/dampingpanels.php
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does dampening the firewall give the most gain for the effort? Or do
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> sidewalls need to be done too?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm thinking of getting some turn-downs for the exhaust pipes too...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -
>>>>>> Larry Bowen
>>>>>> Larry(at)BowenAero.com
>>>>>> http://BowenAero.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> > From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly(at)carolina.rr.com]
>>>>>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 9:17 PM
>>>>>> > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
>>>>>> > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > -->
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Mike and I used Koolmat Heat Barrier from Spruce around page 123.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Used spray glue to hold it in place, no problems so far.
>>>>>> > Just cut and paste!
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Sorry to hear of the latest problem, better to quit after
>>>>>> > start than after takeoff. I promise after you have done your
>>>>>> > time (40 hours) you will just fly it and put it to bed. I
>>>>>> > know you can't wait.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Steve
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> > From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
>>>>>> > To:
>>>>>> > Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > Thanks.
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > I'm down for now. I had to send the Rose ignition module
>>>>>> > back. It quite
>>>>>> > > Sunday shortly after start-up. Anyway, I'm taking the
>>>>>> > opportunity to
>>>>>> > > tweak
>>>>>> > > some things and sound proof the firewall. Boy that thing
>>>>>> > is loud!! Any
>>>>>> > > tips for me related to sound-proofing? Anyone? Bueller?
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > -
>>>>>> > > Larry Bowen
>>>>>> > > Larry(at)BowenAero.com
>>>>>> > > http://BowenAero.com
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> > >> From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly(at)carolina.rr.com]
>>>>>> > >> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 8:23 PM
>>>>>> > >> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
>>>>>> > >> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>> > >> -->
>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>> > >> They are very small! A spec for sure!
>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>> > >> I even had them in OSH during preflight before I left.
>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>> > >> Again congrats on the event and many more to come.
>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>> > >> Steve
>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>> > >> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> > >> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
>>>>>> > >> To:
>>>>>> > >> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>> > >> >
>>>>>> > >> >
>>>>>> > >> > Like corn flakes sized flakes? Or specs? Proseal is
>>>>>> > >> blakish, but doesn't
>>>>>> > >> > break down from fuel. Maybe it's from the fuel truck or
>>>>>> > >> inground tank.
>>>>>> > >> > I'd
>>>>>> > >> > monitor to try to establish a trend, if any......
>>>>>> > >> >
>>>>>> > >> > -
>>>>>> > >> > Larry Bowen
>>>>>> > >> > Larry(at)BowenAero.com
>>>>>> > >> > http://BowenAero.com
>>>>>> > >> >
>>>>>> > >> >
>>>>>> > >> >> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> > >> >> From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly(at)carolina.rr.com]
>>>>>> > >> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 4:46 PM
>>>>>> > >> >> To: SERV
>>>>>> > >> >> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
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>>>>>> > >> >> During preflight when the aircraft has set for some time,
>>>>>> > >> >> when I drain fuel from under the wing I find some brown or
>>>>>> > >> >> blackish flakes. It takes about 6 ounces of draining to
>>>>>> > >> >> clear up the flakes.
>>>>>> > >> >>
>>>>>> > >> >> Has anyone experienced something similar?
>>>>>> > >> >>
>>>>>> > >> >> I have a OB 8. Could it be the tanks sealer is dissolving?
>>>>>> > >> >>
>>>>>> > >> >> Thanks,
>>>>>> > >> >>
>>>>>> > >> >> Steve Glasgow
>>>>>> > >> >>
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| From: | "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com> |
Blue sky would look like an illusion.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: <Lenleg(at)aol.com>
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Weather
>
> Guys:
>
> I have been in the Northwest all week .... all I have seen is rain ...
> every
> single day ..
> now I am heading back home to NC and it is going to rain for a week ....
>
> Can someone tell me what a blue sky looks like !!!
>
> Len Leggette, RV-8A
> Greensboro, NC N910LL
> 275 hrs
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Shirts and Caps Mailed !! |
SERV:
I mailed shirts and caps today !!! Hope everyone is happy with the end
product !!!
Thanks again Wayne8 for your efforts in making this happen !!
Len
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Shirts and Caps Mailed !! |
Thanks to both Wayne 8 and Len for all your efforts.
I know I will be satisfied.
Steve Glasgow
----- Original Message -----
From: <Lenleg(at)aol.com>
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Shirts and Caps Mailed !!
>
> SERV:
>
> I mailed shirts and caps today !!! Hope everyone is happy with the end
> product !!!
>
> Thanks again Wayne8 for your efforts in making this happen !!
>
> Len
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Shirts and Caps Mailed !! |
In a message dated 9/20/04 2:02:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
willfly(at)carolina.rr.com writes:
Thanks to both Wayne 8 and Len for all your efforts.
I know I will be satisfied.
Steve Glasgow
Don't say that so fast ... your order was screwed up !!! For some reason
the company did not make your black shirt. Wayne8 is getting it done !!
Len
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Shirts and Caps Mailed !! |
Hey I'm in no hurry.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: <Lenleg(at)aol.com>
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Shirts and Caps Mailed !!
>
>
> In a message dated 9/20/04 2:02:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> willfly(at)carolina.rr.com writes:
>
> Thanks to both Wayne 8 and Len for all your efforts.
> I know I will be satisfied.
>
> Steve Glasgow
>
>
> Don't say that so fast ... your order was screwed up !!! For some reason
> the company did not make your black shirt. Wayne8 is getting it done !!
>
> Len
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: RV6A under contract for sale |
In a message dated 9/20/04 9:58:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
eregensburg(at)triad.rr.com writes:
Well Len
It finally had to happen - I just agreed to sell my 6A . $ 69 K and its
going to Yankeeville - north
Sadly
Ed
Ed:
I agree it is sad but glad we had the opportunity to meet and fly together
... great thing about RVs !!! Please continue to try to be a part of SERV ...
you never know what kind of plane is in your future !!! (and we will even
welcome your Cessna !!)
Len
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Sunday at Stantons????? |
Guys:
Looks like the weather is going to be nice on Sunday .... lets try to get
together for some flying .... could even include Larry Bowen in his new 8 !!!
A few ideas:
1. Stantons for BBQ
2. Greenville/Farmville area to meet our new NC resident (and ECU
employee)... Dennis M.
3. Air Harbor ... to see Wayne8's new place
4. Lauringburg ... visit the grass strip and see antique/movie planes and
tractors
5. Myrtle Beach for seafood
We must take advantage of this wonderful weather !!!
Len
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | James - Columbia |
Formaiton practice on Sunday afternoon ????????????
Len
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Paul D. Franzon" <paulf(at)ncsu.edu> |
| Subject: | James - Columbia |
Yes, I am interested.
Paul D. Franzon
Alumni Distinguished Professor of ECE
443 EGRC
paulf(at)ncsu.edu 919.515.7351 fax. 919.515.2285
www.ece.ncsu.edu/erl/faculty/paulf.html
USPS : ECE Box 7914, NCSU, Raleigh NC 27695
FedEx: EGRC 419, 2410 Campus Shore Dr., Raleigh NC 27606
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Lenleg(at)aol.com
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: James - Columbia
Formaiton practice on Sunday afternoon ????????????
Len
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Sunday at Stantons????? |
| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
I hope to have the EI back on the plane and be back in the air by this
weekend, but with all of 1.9 hours on it and only 5 landings -- there is
no way I am ready to "leave the nest" yet.
And at five hours am back down again to change the oil. Anyway, at least
am flying!!!! I'll be joining you guys in the near future, but not
yet....
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
Lenleg(at)aol.com said:
>
> Guys:
>
> Looks like the weather is going to be nice on Sunday .... lets try to get
> together for some flying .... could even include Larry Bowen in his new 8
> !!!
>
> A few ideas:
>
> 1. Stantons for BBQ
>
> 2. Greenville/Farmville area to meet our new NC resident (and ECU
> employee)... Dennis M.
>
> 3. Air Harbor ... to see Wayne8's new place
>
> 4. Lauringburg ... visit the grass strip and see antique/movie planes
> and
> tractors
>
> 5. Myrtle Beach for seafood
>
> We must take advantage of this wonderful weather !!!
>
> Len
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Sunday at Stantons????? |
| From: | "Linzel Gray Civ 43 CES/CECP" <Gray.Linzel(at)pope.af.mil> |
After I did a top overhaul the shop said to run straight mineral oil and
fly at no less than 75% power (full throttle at 8000 ft) for the first
25 hours or until oil consumption stabilized in order to seat the rings.
I changed oil earlier as engine didn't seem to burn much oil. Is 5
hours for the first oil change now the deal for a new engine? It makes
sense, just curious.
Gray
-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Bowen [mailto:Larry(at)bowenaero.com]
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Sunday at Stantons?????
I hope to have the EI back on the plane and be back in the air by this
weekend, but with all of 1.9 hours on it and only 5 landings -- there is
no way I am ready to "leave the nest" yet.
And at five hours am back down again to change the oil. Anyway, at
least
am flying!!!! I'll be joining you guys in the near future, but not
yet....
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
Lenleg(at)aol.com said:
>
> Guys:
>
> Looks like the weather is going to be nice on Sunday .... lets try to
get
> together for some flying .... could even include Larry Bowen in his
new 8
> !!!
>
> A few ideas:
>
> 1. Stantons for BBQ
>
> 2. Greenville/Farmville area to meet our new NC resident (and ECU
> employee)... Dennis M.
>
> 3. Air Harbor ... to see Wayne8's new place
>
> 4. Lauringburg ... visit the grass strip and see antique/movie planes
> and
> tractors
>
> 5. Myrtle Beach for seafood
>
> We must take advantage of this wonderful weather !!!
>
> Len
>
>
==
==
==
==
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| Subject: | Re: Sunday at Stantons????? |
In a message dated 9/21/04 11:58:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
Gray.Linzel(at)pope.af.mil writes:
After I did a top overhaul the shop said to run straight mineral oil and
fly at no less than 75% power (full throttle at 8000 ft) for the first
25 hours or until oil consumption stabilized in order to seat the rings.
I changed oil earlier as engine didn't seem to burn much oil. Is 5
hours for the first oil change now the deal for a new engine? It makes
sense, just curious.
Gray
That is what Bob Barrows told us to do with his engines.
Len
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | bill crothers <bill28104(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: James - Columbia |
how 'bout lunch at wadesboro and lite formation after
burgers. bill c.
--- Lenleg(at)aol.com wrote:
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>
> Formaiton practice on Sunday afternoon ????????????
>
> Len
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| Subject: | Re: James - Columbia |
In a message dated 9/21/04 12:20:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
bill28104(at)yahoo.com writes:
how 'bout lunch at wadesboro and lite formation after
burgers. bill c.
Hey ... I like it .... what do you guys think ??
Len
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| From: | "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Fwd: [RV-8] Carolina Sport Flyers Annual Fall Fly-in |
I'm out! Wish I didn't have to work.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: <Lenleg(at)aol.com>
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Fwd: [RV-8] Carolina Sport Flyers Annual Fall
Fly-in
>
> In a message dated 9/17/2004 7:48:24 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> patches11us(at)yahoo.com writes:
>
>> :~)
>> Carolina Sport Flyers Annual fall fly-in
>> October 15th,16th &17th 2004
>> Lee County Airport(52j)Bishopville,SC
>> http://www.airnav.com/airport/52j
>>
>> Food and drinks served all day on Sat 16th by a local church with all
>> proceeds going to the church to help with a rebuild.
>>
>> Any one that flies in will receive a attendance desk plaque
>> Young eagles rides on Sat 16th
>> Ultralight/Sport planes on display and flying
>> Intro flight lessons
>> Ultralight/ Sportplane dealers
>>
>> We will also be doing trophys and ribbons again this year on Sat 16th.
>> Farthest Distance Flown
>> Oldest 2 place
>> Oldest single place
>> Best in show
>> Best 2 place
>> Best single place
>> Crowd favorite
>>
>> Also we we be selling raffle tickets for some neat prizes.
>> Thanks to all who came last year and Hope to see you all here again
>> this year. Pass the word!!!!
>>
>> For more Info:
>> John Davis
>> patches11us@y...
>>
>
>
> To: RV-8(at)yahoogroups.com
> From: "John W.Davis" <patches11us(at)yahoo.com>
> List-Unsubscribe:
> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 11:18:23 -0000
> Subject: [RV-8] Carolina Sport Flyers Annual Fall Fly-in
>
>
> :~)
> Carolina Sport Flyers Annual fall fly-in
> October 15th,16th & 17th 2004
> Lee County Airport(52j)Bishopville,SC
> http://www.airnav.com/airport/52j
>
> Food and drinks served all day on Sat 16th by a local church with all
> proceeds going to the church to help with a rebuild.
>
> Any one that flies in will receive a attendance desk plaque
> Young eagles rides on Sat 16th
> Ultralight/Sport planes on display and flying
> Intro flight lessons
> Ultralight/ Sportplane dealers
>
> We will also be doing trophys and ribbons again this year on Sat 16th.
> Farthest Distance Flown
> Oldest 2 place
> Oldest single place
> Best in show
> Best 2 place
> Best single place
> Crowd favorite
>
> Also we we be selling raffle tickets for some neat prizes.
> Thanks to all who came last year and Hope to see you all here again
> this year. Pass the word!!!!
>
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> patches11us@y...
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| From: | "James E. Clark" <james(at)nextupventures.com> |
| Subject: | James - Columbia |
Hmmm.
We have our annual Chapter Meeting on Sunday. MUST attend. (About 1 PM until
about 4 PM)
Any consideration for Saturday?
James
(of *course* I would be tied up when the weather gets great! :-( )
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> Lenleg(at)aol.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 9:29 AM
> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: James - Columbia
>
>
> Formaiton practice on Sunday afternoon ????????????
>
> Len
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com> |
Hey Guys the Shirt and Cap came today. Really nice. Awesome!!
Thanks again Len and Wayne8
Steve Glasgow
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | TWOBARBEE(at)wmconnect.com |
| Subject: | Re: James - Columbia |
Sounds good on Sunday. Also, there's a pig pickin at Thomasville (Hiatt
Field) N97 from 11am-2pm Saturday. Does anyone know anything about this? Mike Barbee
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | bill crothers <bill28104(at)yahoo.com> |
DITTO, Bill C.
--- Steve Glasgow wrote:
> Glasgow"
>
> Hey Guys the Shirt and Cap came today. Really nice.
> Awesome!!
>
> Thanks again Len and Wayne8
>
> Steve Glasgow
>
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| From: | TWOBARBEE(at)wmconnect.com |
Yes, thanks Mike B
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: James - Columbia |
In a message dated 9/21/04 4:53:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
james(at)nextupventures.com writes:
Hmmm.
We have our annual Chapter Meeting on Sunday. MUST attend. (About 1 PM until
about 4 PM)
Any consideration for Saturday?
James
(of *course* I would be tied up when the weather gets great! :-( )
I will be leaving for the ECU football game around noon on Saturday ... so I
better not plan for Saturday .... I will be flying early Sat morn !!!!
Len
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Curtis Hinkley" <N815RV(at)adelphia.net> |
| Subject: | Hickory Airports |
Hi Guys,
I just got a call from an old friend Tim Berry, who was one of the original
members of the Mid-Atlantic RV Wing formation team. Tim is looking to move
to the Hickory, NC area and would like some help identifying airports that
would welcome him and his RV8.
Since Im located in the far east (Elizabeth City) I wont be of much help
to Tim and his quest for a good airport. So I hope the rest of you can
email or call Tim and pass along some information and suggestions as to
where to look and what to look out for.
Tims phone #270 924 3674
Email: Ifly2retire(at)earthlink.net
Thanks
Curtis Hinkley
N815RV
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Hickory Airports |
In a message dated 9/22/04 10:14:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
N815RV(at)adelphia.net writes:
I just got a call from an old friend Tim Berry, who was one of the original
members of the Mid-Atlantic RV Wing formation team. Tim is looking to move
to the Hickory, NC area and would like some help identifying airports that
would welcome him and his RV8.
Since Im located in the far east (Elizabeth City) I wont be of much help
to Tim and his quest for a good airport. So I hope the rest of you can
email or call Tim and pass along some information and suggestions as to
where to look and what to look out for.
Tims phone #270 924 3674
Email: Ifly2retire(at)earthlink.net
Thanks
Curtis Hinkley
N815RV
Curtis & Tim:
Good to hear from you !!! Didn't know what you were up to these days !!
My partners are from Hickory ... I get up there very often ... only about 1
1/2 hours by car and a short RV flight from Winston-Salem. The Hickory
airport is quite nice ... lots of GA activity .. lost all their airline service.
Don't know the situation about hangers. I don't remember anyone in SERV from
Hickory but you could check the Vans list.
Tim ... welcome to NC ... the majority of the activity so far in SERV is
closer to the Greensboro, Winston-Salem, Charlotte, Raleight area. We look
forward to you joining us.
Please go to _serv(at)bowenaero.com_ (mailto:serv(at)bowenaero.com) and sign up
!! Let me know when you get to town and we will keep you informed of the SERV
activities !!
Len Leggette, RV-8A
Greensboro, N.C. N910LL
273 hrs
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| Subject: | Re: James - Columbia |
Len, My old fllying club in FAY is having thier ann cookout at Grays Creek
Airport in Fayetteville on Sunday afternoon. (2GC) The SERV is invited and I
am planning to go and would like for a bunch of us to go together if possible.
Whould this be something that you would be interested in doing? I plan to
leave after church. W8.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | SnakedoctorRV6(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Hickory Airports |
Tim , you might look into lower creek in lenoir hky is now charging apron
fees of up to 50 dollars you might need to look into it before hand.
Ben
rv6
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: James - Columbia |
In a message dated 9/22/04 1:34:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, N184FN(at)aol.com
writes:
Len, My old fllying club in FAY is having thier ann cookout at Grays Creek
Airport in Fayetteville on Sunday afternoon. (2GC) The SERV is invited and
I
am planning to go and would like for a bunch of us to go together if
possible.
Whould this be something that you would be interested in doing? I plan to
leave after church. W8.
Guys ... exactly the type thing we are looking for ...
We have several options now:
1. Fayetteville with Wayne8
2. Wadesboro for burgers
My vote is for Fayetteville and support Wayne8 with lots of RVs !!!
Len
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Hickory Airports |
In a message dated 9/22/04 2:23:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
SnakedoctorRV6(at)aol.com writes:
Tim , you might look into lower creek in lenoir hky is now charging apron
fees of up to 50 dollars you might need to look into it before hand.
Ben
rv6
Ben:
I learn to fly from Lower Creek in Lenoir !! What is an apron fee?
Len
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | <gtamvakis(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Sunday at Stantons????? |
Hey for you guys in NC the Farmville EAA chapter 960 has their annual fly-in
this Saturday the 25th also Dennis M. plane is based there RV 6A, hope to
see you there.
----- Original Message -----
From: <Lenleg(at)aol.com>
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Sunday at Stantons?????
>
> Guys:
>
> Looks like the weather is going to be nice on Sunday .... lets try to get
> together for some flying .... could even include Larry Bowen in his new 8
!!!
>
> A few ideas:
>
> 1. Stantons for BBQ
>
> 2. Greenville/Farmville area to meet our new NC resident (and ECU
> employee)... Dennis M.
>
> 3. Air Harbor ... to see Wayne8's new place
>
> 4. Lauringburg ... visit the grass strip and see antique/movie planes
and
> tractors
>
> 5. Myrtle Beach for seafood
>
> We must take advantage of this wonderful weather !!!
>
> Len
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Sunday at Stantons????? |
Is that Farmville NC or Va
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| Subject: | Re: Sunday at Stantons????? |
In a message dated 9/22/04 4:36:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, N184FN(at)aol.com
writes:
Is that Farmville NC or Va
North Carolina ....
Dennis Millsap moved up to head up the ROTC program at ECU ... hope I am
telling all this correct ... I know his wife Lori monitors the site .... so she
can chime in !!
Len
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | <gtamvakis(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Sunday at Stantons????? |
It is Farmville NC , N08 is the airport ID.
----- Original Message -----
From: <N184FN(at)aol.com>
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Sunday at Stantons?????
>
> Is that Farmville NC or Va
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | <gtamvakis(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Sunday at Stantons????? |
You are correct.
----- Original Message -----
From: <Lenleg(at)aol.com>
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Sunday at Stantons?????
>
>
> In a message dated 9/22/04 4:36:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
N184FN(at)aol.com
> writes:
>
> Is that Farmville NC or Va
>
>
> North Carolina ....
>
> Dennis Millsap moved up to head up the ROTC program at ECU ... hope I am
> telling all this correct ... I know his wife Lori monitors the site ....
so she
> can chime in !!
>
> Len
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "DAVID DAVENPORT" <ddavenport5(at)nc.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: James - Columbia |
Let me throw my two cents worth in here.... This picnic that Wayne8 is
talking about is put on by the Cape Fear Aero Association, and is one of our
most fun events of the year. It is very informal, just come as you are and
be prepared for good hamburgers and hotdogs. Just leave a little money in
the kitty for next year. We give rides to any kids that want to go up, and
then just go up and play as much as we can stand it. Len, this is a great
excuse to show up as a group formation and show these guys what a real
arrival looks like. You guys come on down. The location is Grays Creek, 2GC,
about six miles due south of Fayetteville airport, FAY. Hope to see
everybody there. If there is a group, we can gather up over Eastover Air
Ranch and go to 2GC from there. What do you guys think?
David Davenport
RV-6
----- Original Message -----
From: <Lenleg(at)aol.com>
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: James - Columbia
>
>
> In a message dated 9/22/04 1:34:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
N184FN(at)aol.com
> writes:
>
> Len, My old fllying club in FAY is having thier ann cookout at Grays
Creek
> Airport in Fayetteville on Sunday afternoon. (2GC) The SERV is invited
and
> I
> am planning to go and would like for a bunch of us to go together if
> possible.
> Whould this be something that you would be interested in doing? I plan
to
> leave after church. W8.
>
>
> Guys ... exactly the type thing we are looking for ...
>
> We have several options now:
>
> 1. Fayetteville with Wayne8
>
> 2. Wadesboro for burgers
>
> My vote is for Fayetteville and support Wayne8 with lots of RVs !!!
>
> Len
>
>
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| Subject: | Sunday at Stantons????? |
| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
That's what I've been told to do by my engine guy. My advice would be to
follow whatever your engine dude tells you. If nothing else, when things
break, you can at least be able to say you were following his directions,
and thus, perhaps, get better support making things right.
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
Linzel Gray Civ 43 CES/CECP said:
> After I did a top overhaul the shop said to run straight mineral oil and
fly at no less than 75% power (full throttle at 8000 ft) for the first
25 hours or until oil consumption stabilized in order to seat the rings.
I changed oil earlier as engine didn't seem to burn much oil. Is 5
hours for the first oil change now the deal for a new engine? It makes
sense, just curious.
> Gray
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Bowen [mailto:Larry(at)bowenaero.com]
> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Sunday at Stantons?????
>
> I hope to have the EI back on the plane and be back in the air by this
weekend, but with all of 1.9 hours on it and only 5 landings -- there is
no way I am ready to "leave the nest" yet.
> And at five hours am back down again to change the oil. Anyway, at least
> am flying!!!! I'll be joining you guys in the near future, but not yet....
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry(at)BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
> Lenleg(at)aol.com said:
>> Guys:
>> Looks like the weather is going to be nice on Sunday .... lets try to
> get
>> together for some flying .... could even include Larry Bowen in his
> new 8
>> !!!
>> A few ideas:
>> 1. Stantons for BBQ
>> 2. Greenville/Farmville area to meet our new NC resident (and ECU
employee)... Dennis M.
>> 3. Air Harbor ... to see Wayne8's new place
>> 4. Lauringburg ... visit the grass strip and see antique/movie planes and
>> tractors
>> 5. Myrtle Beach for seafood
>> We must take advantage of this wonderful weather !!!
>> Len
> ==
> ==
> ==
> ==
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| From: | bill crothers <bill28104(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: James - Columbia |
I'm in for sunday at greys creek...also sat. is
fly-in/airshow/pancake breakfast at Wison, nc all day.
bill c.
--- DAVID DAVENPORT wrote:
> DAVENPORT"
>
> Let me throw my two cents worth in here.... This
> picnic that Wayne8 is
> talking about is put on by the Cape Fear Aero
> Association, and is one of our
> most fun events of the year. It is very informal,
> just come as you are and
> be prepared for good hamburgers and hotdogs. Just
> leave a little money in
> the kitty for next year. We give rides to any kids
> that want to go up, and
> then just go up and play as much as we can stand it.
> Len, this is a great
> excuse to show up as a group formation and show
> these guys what a real
> arrival looks like. You guys come on down. The
> location is Grays Creek, 2GC,
> about six miles due south of Fayetteville airport,
> FAY. Hope to see
> everybody there. If there is a group, we can gather
> up over Eastover Air
> Ranch and go to 2GC from there. What do you guys
> think?
>
> David Davenport
> RV-6
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Lenleg(at)aol.com>
> To:
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: James - Columbia
>
>
> Lenleg(at)aol.com
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 9/22/04 1:34:00 PM Eastern
> Daylight Time,
> N184FN(at)aol.com
> > writes:
> >
> > Len, My old fllying club in FAY is having thier
> ann cookout at Grays
> Creek
> > Airport in Fayetteville on Sunday afternoon. (2GC)
> The SERV is invited
> and
> > I
> > am planning to go and would like for a bunch of us
> to go together if
> > possible.
> > Whould this be something that you would be
> interested in doing? I plan
> to
> > leave after church. W8.
> >
> >
> > Guys ... exactly the type thing we are looking for
> ...
> >
> > We have several options now:
> >
> > 1. Fayetteville with Wayne8
> >
> > 2. Wadesboro for burgers
> >
> > My vote is for Fayetteville and support Wayne8
> with lots of RVs !!!
> >
> > Len
> >
> >
>
>
>
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| From: | "James E. Clark" <james(at)nextupventures.com> |
| Subject: | Hickory Airports |
Len,
You forgot to mentiion that there are also some *attempts* at activity in
Columbia (SC) too. :-)
Welcome to SERV guys.
James
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> Lenleg(at)aol.com
> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 12:16 PM
> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Hickory Airports
>
>
> In a message dated 9/22/04 10:14:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> N815RV(at)adelphia.net writes:
>
> I just got a call from an old friend Tim Berry, who was one of
> the original
> members of the Mid-Atlantic RV Wing formation team. Tim is
> looking to move
> to the Hickory, NC area and would like some help identifying
> airports that
> would welcome him and his RV8.
>
> Since Im located in the far east (Elizabeth City) I wont be of much help
> to Tim and his quest for a good airport. So I hope the rest of you can
> email or call Tim and pass along some information and suggestions as to
> where to look and what to look out for.
>
> Tims phone #270 924 3674
> Email: Ifly2retire(at)earthlink.net
>
> Thanks
>
> Curtis Hinkley
> N815RV
>
>
> Curtis & Tim:
>
> Good to hear from you !!! Didn't know what you were up to these days !!
>
> My partners are from Hickory ... I get up there very often ...
> only about 1
> 1/2 hours by car and a short RV flight from Winston-Salem. The Hickory
> airport is quite nice ... lots of GA activity .. lost all their
> airline service.
> Don't know the situation about hangers. I don't remember anyone
> in SERV from
> Hickory but you could check the Vans list.
>
> Tim ... welcome to NC ... the majority of the activity so far in SERV is
> closer to the Greensboro, Winston-Salem, Charlotte, Raleight
> area. We look
> forward to you joining us.
>
> Please go to _serv(at)bowenaero.com_ (mailto:serv(at)bowenaero.com)
> and sign up
> !! Let me know when you get to town and we will keep you
> informed of the SERV
> activities !!
>
> Len Leggette, RV-8A
> Greensboro, N.C. N910LL
> 273 hrs
>
>
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| From: | SnakedoctorRV6(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Hickory Airports |
Its a fee the fbo is charging to park for any time your there.I was takling
to an faa inspector last weekend and he was telling me about it.He said that
the restaurant there is upset about it.Because people are not flying in to eat.
Ben
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: James - Columbia |
In a message dated 9/22/04 5:43:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
ddavenport5(at)nc.rr.com writes:
Let me throw my two cents worth in here.... This picnic that Wayne8 is
talking about is put on by the Cape Fear Aero Association, and is one of our
most fun events of the year. It is very informal, just come as you are and
be prepared for good hamburgers and hotdogs. Just leave a little money in
the kitty for next year. We give rides to any kids that want to go up, and
then just go up and play as much as we can stand it. Len, this is a great
excuse to show up as a group formation and show these guys what a real
arrival looks like. You guys come on down. The location is Grays Creek, 2GC,
about six miles due south of Fayetteville airport, FAY. Hope to see
everybody there. If there is a group, we can gather up over Eastover Air
Ranch and go to 2GC from there. What do you guys think?
David Davenport
RV-6
I am in !!! Meet at Eastover sounds good !!! Brief on the ground and plan
the arrival at Grays Creek !!
What time ??
Len
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Hickory Airports |
In a message dated 9/22/04 11:27:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
james(at)nextupventures.com writes:
You forgot to mentiion that there are also some *attempts* at activity in
Columbia (SC) too. :-)
We are going to turn the "attempts" in reality .... as soon as you retire
from some of your many activities !!!
Len
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Hickory Airports |
In a message dated 9/23/04 2:15:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
SnakedoctorRV6(at)aol.com writes:
Its a fee the fbo is charging to park for any time your there.I was takling
to an faa inspector last weekend and he was telling me about it.He said that
the restaurant there is upset about it.Because people are not flying in to
eat.
Ben
I have flown into Hickory many times but not in the last 2 or 3 months ....
I will not fly back into there if this is true !!!
Len Leggette, RV-8A
Greensboro, N.C. N910LL
273 hrs
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| From: | SnakedoctorRV6(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Hickory Airports |
I also have flow into hky many times.I,am just going on what was passed on to
me.You might need to check before you go iguess is what i,am saying.
Ben
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| From: | Rad Z <microsmurfer(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Hickory Airports |
See comments at:
http://www.airnav.com/airport/KHKY/PROFILE#c
I also heard about $50.. but that was some sort of
confusion of some kind.. forgot the details..
$25 as mentioned on AirNav is still way too much...
isn't even CLT cheaper than that :)
Radomir
--- SnakedoctorRV6(at)aol.com wrote:
> SnakedoctorRV6(at)aol.com
>
> I also have flow into hky many times.I,am just going
> on what was passed on to
> me.You might need to check before you go iguess is
> what i,am saying.
>
> Ben
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| Subject: | Re: Hickory Airports |
| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
What happens if you refuse to pay? FBO has no authority, IMO, to collect
anything unless I use their services. I could see a fee for over-night
services, but just dropping someone off?! I have plenty of "fees" removed
from each pay check.....
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
Rad Z said:
>
> See comments at:
>
> http://www.airnav.com/airport/KHKY/PROFILE#c
>
>
> I also heard about $50.. but that was some sort of
> confusion of some kind.. forgot the details..
>
> $25 as mentioned on AirNav is still way too much...
> isn't even CLT cheaper than that :)
>
> Radomir
>
>
> --- SnakedoctorRV6(at)aol.com wrote:
>
>> SnakedoctorRV6(at)aol.com
>>
>> I also have flow into hky many times.I,am just going
>> on what was passed on to
>> me.You might need to check before you go iguess is
>> what i,am saying.
>>
>> Ben
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Hickory Airports |
In a message dated 9/23/04 11:32:15 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
microsmurfer(at)yahoo.com writes:
$25 as mentioned on AirNav is still way too much...
isn't even CLT cheaper than that :)
Somehow this seems un-American .... wonder if AOPA and EAA know about this .
Len
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Rad Z <microsmurfer(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Hickory Airports |
> Somehow this seems un-American .... wonder if AOPA
> and EAA know about this .
>
> Len
>
$25 just doesn't sound right... especially if you're
just dropping off someone.
Larry, well, it depends. If the ramp is "their
property" (or leased etc..) they can charge whatever
they want (parking fee, just like the city charges you
via the parking meter). And send you a bill if you
refuse to pay... then comes the collection agency
etc.. I am guessing.. I don't know.. I don't wanna
find out either :)
It's plain wrong, IMHO. on the other hand I could see
where they may be trying to recover the cost of
lease/ownership/maintenance of the FBO itself.. too
much traffic not a lot of sales?
I guess they dont' sell that much gas? :)
Radomir
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| Subject: | Re: Hickory Airports |
| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
Where are apron fees documented? NOTAMS? AFD? I don't see anything on
airnav. No public notice = no collection if I turn around and leave.
IMO.
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
Rad Z said:
>
>
>> Somehow this seems un-American .... wonder if AOPA
>> and EAA know about this .
>>
>> Len
>>
>
>
> $25 just doesn't sound right... especially if you're
> just dropping off someone.
>
> Larry, well, it depends. If the ramp is "their
> property" (or leased etc..) they can charge whatever
> they want (parking fee, just like the city charges you
> via the parking meter). And send you a bill if you
> refuse to pay... then comes the collection agency
> etc.. I am guessing.. I don't know.. I don't wanna
> find out either :)
>
> It's plain wrong, IMHO. on the other hand I could see
> where they may be trying to recover the cost of
> lease/ownership/maintenance of the FBO itself.. too
> much traffic not a lot of sales?
>
> I guess they dont' sell that much gas? :)
>
> Radomir
>
>
> __________________________________
>
>
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| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
Thanks for the koolmat Steve. It looks like good stuff.
I'm confused which side faces the heat. There seems to examples of either
way. Here it's even on the forward side of the firewall:
http://www.koolmat.com/aircraft.shtml
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly(at)carolina.rr.com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 9:07 AM
> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Noise (was Flakes in fuel)
>
> -->
>
> Koolmat has a fireproof rubbery like material on one side the
> side toward the back of the airplane and fiberglass
> impregnated on the side toward the firewall. It is much more
> substantive and stops almost all the oil canning of the firewall.
>
> I have a piece for you, where do I send it. I will get it in
> today's mail if you send me an address ASAP.
>
> Steve
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
> To:
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Noise (was Flakes in fuel)
>
>
> >
> >
> > How is the coolmat different? Do you have a piece of scrap
> left I could
> > see?
> >
> > -
> > Larry Bowen
> > Larry(at)BowenAero.com
> > http://BowenAero.com
> >
> > Steve Glasgow said:
> >>
> >>
> >> Larry, I'm not happy with your choice of insulation. I
> got some of the
> >> one
> >> you are getting and some of the Koolmat before I decided. If I not
> >> mistaken
> >> the Koolmat is far superior.
> >>
> >> Just my thought.
> >>
> >> Steve
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
> >> To:
> >> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Noise (was Flakes in fuel)
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Larry Vetterman suggested the turn downs -- the way his
> exhaust use to
> >>> be.
> >>> Right now things are so loud, I'd give up five knots for
> some relief.
> >>> I'll try some insulation first.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> -
> >>> Larry Bowen
> >>> Larry(at)BowenAero.com
> >>> http://BowenAero.com
> >>>
> >>> Dennis & Lori Millsap said:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Dennis says that he's noticed that he should add more
> foam to the side
> >>>> panels--more for noise than anything. He treated the
> firewall primarily
> >>>> for
> >>>> heat (he thought) but it's the noise that gets ya.
> >>>>
> >>>> What do you mean by "turn downs"? Dennis cut his exhaust
> pipes off. You
> >>>> don't want them hanging down in the airstream. Let them
> be loud, but
> >>>> for
> >>>> goodness sake, don't let them slow ya down! GRIN!
> >>>>
> >>>> Actually, it puts undue stress on your exhaust system having them
> >>>> hanging
> >>>> out in the wind. Dennis broke a bracket or two before he
> cut them off.
> >>>>
> >>>> Lori
> >>>> N464DM, RV-6A, 300+ hours
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
> >>>> To:
> >>>> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I ordered this last night:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/dampingpanels.php
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Does dampening the firewall give the most gain for the
> effort? Or do
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> sidewalls need to be done too?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm thinking of getting some turn-downs for the exhaust
> pipes too...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -
> >>>>> Larry Bowen
> >>>>> Larry(at)BowenAero.com
> >>>>> http://BowenAero.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> > -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> > From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly(at)carolina.rr.com]
> >>>>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 9:17 PM
> >>>>> > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> >>>>> > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > -->
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Mike and I used Koolmat Heat Barrier from Spruce
> around page 123.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Used spray glue to hold it in place, no problems so far.
> >>>>> > Just cut and paste!
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Sorry to hear of the latest problem, better to quit after
> >>>>> > start than after takeoff. I promise after you have done your
> >>>>> > time (40 hours) you will just fly it and put it to bed. I
> >>>>> > know you can't wait.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Steve
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> > From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
> >>>>> > To:
> >>>>> > Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > >
> >>>>> > >
> >>>>> > > Thanks.
> >>>>> > >
> >>>>> > > I'm down for now. I had to send the Rose ignition module
> >>>>> > back. It quite
> >>>>> > > Sunday shortly after start-up. Anyway, I'm taking the
> >>>>> > opportunity to
> >>>>> > > tweak
> >>>>> > > some things and sound proof the firewall. Boy that thing
> >>>>> > is loud!! Any
> >>>>> > > tips for me related to sound-proofing? Anyone? Bueller?
> >>>>> > >
> >>>>> > > -
> >>>>> > > Larry Bowen
> >>>>> > > Larry(at)BowenAero.com
> >>>>> > > http://BowenAero.com
> >>>>> > >
> >>>>> > >
> >>>>> > >> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> > >> From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly(at)carolina.rr.com]
> >>>>> > >> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 8:23 PM
> >>>>> > >> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> >>>>> > >> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
> >>>>> > >>
> >>>>> > >> -->
> >>>>> > >>
> >>>>> > >> They are very small! A spec for sure!
> >>>>> > >>
> >>>>> > >> I even had them in OSH during preflight before I left.
> >>>>> > >>
> >>>>> > >> Again congrats on the event and many more to come.
> >>>>> > >>
> >>>>> > >> Steve
> >>>>> > >>
> >>>>> > >>
> >>>>> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> > >> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
> >>>>> > >> To:
> >>>>> > >> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
> >>>>> > >>
> >>>>> > >>
> >>>>> > >> >
> >>>>> > >> >
> >>>>> > >> > Like corn flakes sized flakes? Or specs? Proseal is
> >>>>> > >> blakish, but doesn't
> >>>>> > >> > break down from fuel. Maybe it's from the fuel truck or
> >>>>> > >> inground tank.
> >>>>> > >> > I'd
> >>>>> > >> > monitor to try to establish a trend, if any......
> >>>>> > >> >
> >>>>> > >> > -
> >>>>> > >> > Larry Bowen
> >>>>> > >> > Larry(at)BowenAero.com
> >>>>> > >> > http://BowenAero.com
> >>>>> > >> >
> >>>>> > >> >
> >>>>> > >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> > >> >> From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly(at)carolina.rr.com]
> >>>>> > >> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 4:46 PM
> >>>>> > >> >> To: SERV
> >>>>> > >> >> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
> >>>>> > >> >>
> >>>>> > >> >> -->
> >>>>> > >> >>
> >>>>> > >> >> During preflight when the aircraft has set for
> some time,
> >>>>> > >> >> when I drain fuel from under the wing I find
> some brown or
> >>>>> > >> >> blackish flakes. It takes about 6 ounces of draining to
> >>>>> > >> >> clear up the flakes.
> >>>>> > >> >>
> >>>>> > >> >> Has anyone experienced something similar?
> >>>>> > >> >>
> >>>>> > >> >> I have a OB 8. Could it be the tanks sealer is
> dissolving?
> >>>>> > >> >>
> >>>>> > >> >> Thanks,
> >>>>> > >> >>
> >>>>> > >> >> Steve Glasgow
> >>>>> > >> >>
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| From: | "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com> |
Mine is spray glued to the inside of the baggage compartment with the
fiberglass side glued to the back side of the firewall.
It is going to be a pain since you are already together. I did mine before
the top piece was on. I would suggest templates out of thin cardboard cut
to fit, then you can cut holes for the nuts and bolts that go through the
firewall. I used some hardwall tubing sharpened and hammered out the holes
for the nuts and bolts.
You will be suppressed how well it deadens the sound and stops the oil
canning.
Later,
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Noise
>
>
> Thanks for the koolmat Steve. It looks like good stuff.
>
> I'm confused which side faces the heat. There seems to examples of either
> way. Here it's even on the forward side of the firewall:
>
> http://www.koolmat.com/aircraft.shtml
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry(at)BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly(at)carolina.rr.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 9:07 AM
>> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Noise (was Flakes in fuel)
>>
>> -->
>>
>> Koolmat has a fireproof rubbery like material on one side the
>> side toward the back of the airplane and fiberglass
>> impregnated on the side toward the firewall. It is much more
>> substantive and stops almost all the oil canning of the firewall.
>>
>> I have a piece for you, where do I send it. I will get it in
>> today's mail if you send me an address ASAP.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
>> To:
>> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Noise (was Flakes in fuel)
>>
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > How is the coolmat different? Do you have a piece of scrap
>> left I could
>> > see?
>> >
>> > -
>> > Larry Bowen
>> > Larry(at)BowenAero.com
>> > http://BowenAero.com
>> >
>> > Steve Glasgow said:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Larry, I'm not happy with your choice of insulation. I
>> got some of the
>> >> one
>> >> you are getting and some of the Koolmat before I decided. If I not
>> >> mistaken
>> >> the Koolmat is far superior.
>> >>
>> >> Just my thought.
>> >>
>> >> Steve
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
>> >> To:
>> >> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Noise (was Flakes in fuel)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Larry Vetterman suggested the turn downs -- the way his
>> exhaust use to
>> >>> be.
>> >>> Right now things are so loud, I'd give up five knots for
>> some relief.
>> >>> I'll try some insulation first.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>>
>> >>> -
>> >>> Larry Bowen
>> >>> Larry(at)BowenAero.com
>> >>> http://BowenAero.com
>> >>>
>> >>> Dennis & Lori Millsap said:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Dennis says that he's noticed that he should add more
>> foam to the side
>> >>>> panels--more for noise than anything. He treated the
>> firewall primarily
>> >>>> for
>> >>>> heat (he thought) but it's the noise that gets ya.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> What do you mean by "turn downs"? Dennis cut his exhaust
>> pipes off. You
>> >>>> don't want them hanging down in the airstream. Let them
>> be loud, but
>> >>>> for
>> >>>> goodness sake, don't let them slow ya down! GRIN!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Actually, it puts undue stress on your exhaust system having them
>> >>>> hanging
>> >>>> out in the wind. Dennis broke a bracket or two before he
>> cut them off.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Lori
>> >>>> N464DM, RV-6A, 300+ hours
>> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>>> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
>> >>>> To:
>> >>>> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I ordered this last night:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/dampingpanels.php
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Does dampening the firewall give the most gain for the
>> effort? Or do
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>> sidewalls need to be done too?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I'm thinking of getting some turn-downs for the exhaust
>> pipes too...
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> -
>> >>>>> Larry Bowen
>> >>>>> Larry(at)BowenAero.com
>> >>>>> http://BowenAero.com
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>> >>>>> > From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly(at)carolina.rr.com]
>> >>>>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 9:17 PM
>> >>>>> > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
>> >>>>> > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > -->
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > Mike and I used Koolmat Heat Barrier from Spruce
>> around page 123.
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > Used spray glue to hold it in place, no problems so far.
>> >>>>> > Just cut and paste!
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > Sorry to hear of the latest problem, better to quit after
>> >>>>> > start than after takeoff. I promise after you have done your
>> >>>>> > time (40 hours) you will just fly it and put it to bed. I
>> >>>>> > know you can't wait.
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > Steve
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >>>>> > From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
>> >>>>> > To:
>> >>>>> > Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > >
>> >>>>> > >
>> >>>>> > > Thanks.
>> >>>>> > >
>> >>>>> > > I'm down for now. I had to send the Rose ignition module
>> >>>>> > back. It quite
>> >>>>> > > Sunday shortly after start-up. Anyway, I'm taking the
>> >>>>> > opportunity to
>> >>>>> > > tweak
>> >>>>> > > some things and sound proof the firewall. Boy that thing
>> >>>>> > is loud!! Any
>> >>>>> > > tips for me related to sound-proofing? Anyone? Bueller?
>> >>>>> > >
>> >>>>> > > -
>> >>>>> > > Larry Bowen
>> >>>>> > > Larry(at)BowenAero.com
>> >>>>> > > http://BowenAero.com
>> >>>>> > >
>> >>>>> > >
>> >>>>> > >> -----Original Message-----
>> >>>>> > >> From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly(at)carolina.rr.com]
>> >>>>> > >> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 8:23 PM
>> >>>>> > >> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
>> >>>>> > >> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>> >>>>> > >>
>> >>>>> > >> -->
>> >>>>> > >>
>> >>>>> > >> They are very small! A spec for sure!
>> >>>>> > >>
>> >>>>> > >> I even had them in OSH during preflight before I left.
>> >>>>> > >>
>> >>>>> > >> Again congrats on the event and many more to come.
>> >>>>> > >>
>> >>>>> > >> Steve
>> >>>>> > >>
>> >>>>> > >>
>> >>>>> > >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>>>> > >> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
>> >>>>> > >> To:
>> >>>>> > >> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>> >>>>> > >>
>> >>>>> > >>
>> >>>>> > >> >
>> >>>>> > >> >
>> >>>>> > >> > Like corn flakes sized flakes? Or specs? Proseal is
>> >>>>> > >> blakish, but doesn't
>> >>>>> > >> > break down from fuel. Maybe it's from the fuel truck or
>> >>>>> > >> inground tank.
>> >>>>> > >> > I'd
>> >>>>> > >> > monitor to try to establish a trend, if any......
>> >>>>> > >> >
>> >>>>> > >> > -
>> >>>>> > >> > Larry Bowen
>> >>>>> > >> > Larry(at)BowenAero.com
>> >>>>> > >> > http://BowenAero.com
>> >>>>> > >> >
>> >>>>> > >> >
>> >>>>> > >> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >>>>> > >> >> From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly(at)carolina.rr.com]
>> >>>>> > >> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 4:46 PM
>> >>>>> > >> >> To: SERV
>> >>>>> > >> >> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>> >>>>> > >> >>
>> >>>>> > >> >> -->
>> >>>>> > >> >>
>> >>>>> > >> >> During preflight when the aircraft has set for
>> some time,
>> >>>>> > >> >> when I drain fuel from under the wing I find
>> some brown or
>> >>>>> > >> >> blackish flakes. It takes about 6 ounces of draining to
>> >>>>> > >> >> clear up the flakes.
>> >>>>> > >> >>
>> >>>>> > >> >> Has anyone experienced something similar?
>> >>>>> > >> >>
>> >>>>> > >> >> I have a OB 8. Could it be the tanks sealer is
>> dissolving?
>> >>>>> > >> >>
>> >>>>> > >> >> Thanks,
>> >>>>> > >> >>
>> >>>>> > >> >> Steve Glasgow
>> >>>>> > >> >>
>> >>>>> > >> >>
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| From: | bill crothers <bill28104(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: James - Columbia |
hey james, do you have something planned for saturday?
i'm up for visiting or going somewhere and doing a
little formating. sunday is tied up for u and may be
wet. i'm open both days. bill c.
--- Lenleg(at)aol.com wrote:
> Lenleg(at)aol.com
>
>
> In a message dated 9/22/04 1:34:00 PM Eastern
> Daylight Time, N184FN(at)aol.com
> writes:
>
> Len, My old fllying club in FAY is having thier ann
> cookout at Grays Creek
> Airport in Fayetteville on Sunday afternoon. (2GC)
> The SERV is invited and
> I
> am planning to go and would like for a bunch of us
> to go together if
> possible.
> Whould this be something that you would be
> interested in doing? I plan to
> leave after church. W8.
>
>
> Guys ... exactly the type thing we are looking for
> ...
>
> We have several options now:
>
> 1. Fayetteville with Wayne8
>
> 2. Wadesboro for burgers
>
> My vote is for Fayetteville and support Wayne8 with
> lots of RVs !!!
>
> Len
>
>
>
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| From: | "James E. Clark" <james(at)nextupventures.com> |
| Subject: | James - Columbia |
Might be able to do a little on Saturday. Depends on how several other irons
in the fire shake out.
Will let you know. I definitely **WANT** to.
James
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of bill
> crothers
> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 8:56 PM
> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: James - Columbia
>
>
>
>
> hey james, do you have something planned for saturday?
> i'm up for visiting or going somewhere and doing a
> little formating. sunday is tied up for u and may be
> wet. i'm open both days. bill c.
> --- Lenleg(at)aol.com wrote:
>
> > Lenleg(at)aol.com
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 9/22/04 1:34:00 PM Eastern
> > Daylight Time, N184FN(at)aol.com
> > writes:
> >
> > Len, My old fllying club in FAY is having thier ann
> > cookout at Grays Creek
> > Airport in Fayetteville on Sunday afternoon. (2GC)
> > The SERV is invited and
> > I
> > am planning to go and would like for a bunch of us
> > to go together if
> > possible.
> > Whould this be something that you would be
> > interested in doing? I plan to
> > leave after church. W8.
> >
> >
> > Guys ... exactly the type thing we are looking for
> > ...
> >
> > We have several options now:
> >
> > 1. Fayetteville with Wayne8
> >
> > 2. Wadesboro for burgers
> >
> > My vote is for Fayetteville and support Wayne8 with
> > lots of RVs !!!
> >
> > Len
> >
> >
> >
> > -
> > Contributions
> > any other
> > Forums.
> >
> > http://www.matronics.com/chat
> >
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> >
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| From: | "DAVID DAVENPORT" <ddavenport5(at)nc.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Hickory Airports |
Larry, the "Flight Guide" publication always has landing fees listed in
their airport info listings. Another good reason that those little brown
binders are good to have around.
David
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Hickory Airports
>
> Where are apron fees documented? NOTAMS? AFD? I don't see anything on
> airnav. No public notice = no collection if I turn around and leave.
> IMO.
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry(at)BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
>
> Rad Z said:
> >
> >
> >> Somehow this seems un-American .... wonder if AOPA
> >> and EAA know about this .
> >>
> >> Len
> >>
> >
> >
> > $25 just doesn't sound right... especially if you're
> > just dropping off someone.
> >
> > Larry, well, it depends. If the ramp is "their
> > property" (or leased etc..) they can charge whatever
> > they want (parking fee, just like the city charges you
> > via the parking meter). And send you a bill if you
> > refuse to pay... then comes the collection agency
> > etc.. I am guessing.. I don't know.. I don't wanna
> > find out either :)
> >
> > It's plain wrong, IMHO. on the other hand I could see
> > where they may be trying to recover the cost of
> > lease/ownership/maintenance of the FBO itself.. too
> > much traffic not a lot of sales?
> >
> > I guess they dont' sell that much gas? :)
> >
> > Radomir
> >
> >
> > __________________________________
> >
> >
>
>
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| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
FYI-
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
====================
FLYING DESTINATIONS IN THE MIDATLANTIC REGION THIS WEEKEND:
WILSON, NORTH CAROLINA. An EAA Chapter 1047 Annual Fly-in takes place
September 25 at Wilson Industrial Air Center (W03). Pancake breakfast,
static displays, skydivers, vendors, childen's activities, and plenty
of food. Contact Tom Gregorski, 252/291-8810.
REIDSVILLE, NORTH CAROLINA. The Third Annual Air Force Junior ROTC Fly-in
takes place September 25 at Rockingham County Shiloh (78N) from 11 a.m.
to 3 p.m. Featuring a hamburger/hot dog lunch, airplane rides, car cruise
on the field, ROTC displays, World War II veteran airman display, and
giveaways. Visit the Web site ( http://www.shilohairport.org ).
CUMBERLAND, MARYLAND. An EAA Chapter 426 Fly-in Breakfast takes place
September 26 at Greater Cumberland Regional (CBE) from 7 to 11 a.m.
Contact Harry Dolly, 814/356-3773.
NEXT WEEKEND:
DARLINGTON, SOUTH CAROLINA. A Fall Fly-in takes place October 1
through 3 at Darlington County Jetport (UDG). Fly-in for all aircraft
classes. Barbecue on the field Friday; judging and a banquet Saturday.
Contact Jim Wilson, 843/753-7138.
FRANKLIN, NORTH CAROLINA. The Macon County Aviation Celebration takes
place October 2 at Macon County (1A5). The daylong celebration of
aviation includes vintage aircraft, skydivers, food, and fun for the
entire family. Fly-ins welcome. Contact Tony Angel, 800/336-7829, or
visit the Web site ( http://www.franklin-chamber.com ).
WINCHESTER, VIRGINIA. An EAA Chapter 186 Fall Fly-in takes place October 2
and 3 at Winchester Regional (OKV). Fly-in and pancake breakfast, aircraft
judging, Young Eagle flights, and more. Contact Ms. Tangy Mooney,
703/361-0294, or visit the Web site ( http://www.eaa186.org ).
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| From: | <gtamvakis(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Re: DESTINATIONS |
Dont forget Farmville NC [Flanagan Field N08] EAA chapter 960, September 25
th, plane rides, lunch, Short wing piper club, experimentals, UL, Vintage.
George
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: DESTINATIONS
>
> FYI-
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry(at)BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
>
> ====================
>
> FLYING DESTINATIONS IN THE MIDATLANTIC REGION THIS WEEKEND:
> WILSON, NORTH CAROLINA. An EAA Chapter 1047 Annual Fly-in takes place
> September 25 at Wilson Industrial Air Center (W03). Pancake breakfast,
> static displays, skydivers, vendors, childen's activities, and plenty
> of food. Contact Tom Gregorski, 252/291-8810.
>
> REIDSVILLE, NORTH CAROLINA. The Third Annual Air Force Junior ROTC Fly-in
> takes place September 25 at Rockingham County Shiloh (78N) from 11 a.m.
> to 3 p.m. Featuring a hamburger/hot dog lunch, airplane rides, car cruise
> on the field, ROTC displays, World War II veteran airman display, and
> giveaways. Visit the Web site ( http://www.shilohairport.org ).
>
> CUMBERLAND, MARYLAND. An EAA Chapter 426 Fly-in Breakfast takes place
> September 26 at Greater Cumberland Regional (CBE) from 7 to 11 a.m.
> Contact Harry Dolly, 814/356-3773.
>
> NEXT WEEKEND:
> DARLINGTON, SOUTH CAROLINA. A Fall Fly-in takes place October 1
> through 3 at Darlington County Jetport (UDG). Fly-in for all aircraft
> classes. Barbecue on the field Friday; judging and a banquet Saturday.
> Contact Jim Wilson, 843/753-7138.
>
> FRANKLIN, NORTH CAROLINA. The Macon County Aviation Celebration takes
> place October 2 at Macon County (1A5). The daylong celebration of
> aviation includes vintage aircraft, skydivers, food, and fun for the
> entire family. Fly-ins welcome. Contact Tony Angel, 800/336-7829, or
> visit the Web site ( http://www.franklin-chamber.com ).
>
> WINCHESTER, VIRGINIA. An EAA Chapter 186 Fall Fly-in takes place October 2
> and 3 at Winchester Regional (OKV). Fly-in and pancake breakfast, aircraft
> judging, Young Eagle flights, and more. Contact Ms. Tangy Mooney,
> 703/361-0294, or visit the Web site ( http://www.eaa186.org ).
>
>
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| From: | Rad Z <microsmurfer(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | AOA port installation |
Hey guys,
getting ready to install the AOA port, so I can move
on with the wing.
Which dimple dies are good for #4 screws? I don't
have #4 d.d. set.. wondering if 1/8" dimples would
work..
I suppose a hole is needed at the bottom of leading
edge so the upper port can be drained.. Any
recommendations on size of this hole?
Anything else to pay special attention to?
Thanks!
Radomir
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| Subject: | Re: AOA port installation |
In a message dated 9/24/04 3:02:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
microsmurfer(at)yahoo.com writes:
Which dimple dies are good for #4 screws? I don't
have #4 d.d. set.. wondering if 1/8" dimples would
work..
You could use the 1/8" but I think I have a set for #4 ... I used the #4
screws in my wingtips ... I will look over the weekend and let you know !!
Len
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: AOA port installation |
| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
You have the PSS AOA?
I don't remember how I dimpled, but I remember having to file 100 degree
angles on the screws to fit nicely in the dimple. Fun.
I did a #30 hole on the bottom.
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
Rad Z said:
>
> Hey guys,
>
> getting ready to install the AOA port, so I can move
> on with the wing.
>
> Which dimple dies are good for #4 screws? I don't
> have #4 d.d. set.. wondering if 1/8" dimples would
> work..
>
> I suppose a hole is needed at the bottom of leading
> edge so the upper port can be drained.. Any
> recommendations on size of this hole?
>
> Anything else to pay special attention to?
>
> Thanks!
> Radomir
>
>
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| From: | "Wayne Williams" <rwayne(at)gamewood.net> |
| Subject: | AOA port installation |
Radomir:
I did use the #30 and it worked great. I also connected a metal tube
(chromed copper) so it extends a little below the bottom skin. This allows
me to drain the top port by simply pushing up on the tube. Remember to seal
the port to the skin. (I used form-a-gasket as recommended in the
instructions.)
Wayne
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Rad Z
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: AOA port installation
Hey guys,
getting ready to install the AOA port, so I can move
on with the wing.
Which dimple dies are good for #4 screws? I don't
have #4 d.d. set.. wondering if 1/8" dimples would
work..
I suppose a hole is needed at the bottom of leading
edge so the upper port can be drained.. Any
recommendations on size of this hole?
Anything else to pay special attention to?
Thanks!
Radomir
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| From: | Rad Z <microsmurfer(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | AOA port installation |
Thanks everyone for prompt responses.
I'll try out 1/8 d.d. set on a scrap piece first to
see how it'll work out.
If these screws are "wrong" (not 100 deg.) I'll just
temporarily place them there and then maybe get "real"
screws later (from microfasteners, I guess).
Is this form-a-gasket available at auto parts stores?
I have some blue RTV.. not sure if that'd work for
sealing. (trying to never crack open that proseal I
have in the freezer :)
Radomir
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| From: | bill crothers <bill28104(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: DESTINATIONS |
ok, guys...who's going where saturday? bill c.
--- gtamvakis(at)earthlink.net wrote:
>
>
> Dont forget Farmville NC [Flanagan Field N08] EAA
> chapter 960, September 25
> th, plane rides, lunch, Short wing piper club,
> experimentals, UL, Vintage.
>
> George
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
> To: "serv"
> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: DESTINATIONS
>
>
> Bowen"
>
> >
> > FYI-
> >
> > -
> > Larry Bowen
> > Larry(at)BowenAero.com
> > http://BowenAero.com
> >
> > ====================
> >
> > FLYING DESTINATIONS IN THE MIDATLANTIC REGION THIS
> WEEKEND:
> > WILSON, NORTH CAROLINA. An EAA Chapter 1047 Annual
> Fly-in takes place
> > September 25 at Wilson Industrial Air Center
> (W03). Pancake breakfast,
> > static displays, skydivers, vendors, childen's
> activities, and plenty
> > of food. Contact Tom Gregorski, 252/291-8810.
> >
> > REIDSVILLE, NORTH CAROLINA. The Third Annual Air
> Force Junior ROTC Fly-in
> > takes place September 25 at Rockingham County
> Shiloh (78N) from 11 a.m.
> > to 3 p.m. Featuring a hamburger/hot dog lunch,
> airplane rides, car cruise
> > on the field, ROTC displays, World War II veteran
> airman display, and
> > giveaways. Visit the Web site (
> http://www.shilohairport.org ).
> >
> > CUMBERLAND, MARYLAND. An EAA Chapter 426 Fly-in
> Breakfast takes place
> > September 26 at Greater Cumberland Regional (CBE)
> from 7 to 11 a.m.
> > Contact Harry Dolly, 814/356-3773.
> >
> > NEXT WEEKEND:
> > DARLINGTON, SOUTH CAROLINA. A Fall Fly-in takes
> place October 1
> > through 3 at Darlington County Jetport (UDG).
> Fly-in for all aircraft
> > classes. Barbecue on the field Friday; judging and
> a banquet Saturday.
> > Contact Jim Wilson, 843/753-7138.
> >
> > FRANKLIN, NORTH CAROLINA. The Macon County
> Aviation Celebration takes
> > place October 2 at Macon County (1A5). The daylong
> celebration of
> > aviation includes vintage aircraft, skydivers,
> food, and fun for the
> > entire family. Fly-ins welcome. Contact Tony
> Angel, 800/336-7829, or
> > visit the Web site (
> http://www.franklin-chamber.com ).
> >
> > WINCHESTER, VIRGINIA. An EAA Chapter 186 Fall
> Fly-in takes place October 2
> > and 3 at Winchester Regional (OKV). Fly-in and
> pancake breakfast, aircraft
> > judging, Young Eagle flights, and more. Contact
> Ms. Tangy Mooney,
> > 703/361-0294, or visit the Web site (
> http://www.eaa186.org ).
> >
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| From: | "Dennis & Lori Millsap" <dwmillsap(at)hyperlogic.net> |
| Subject: | Re: DESTINATIONS |
Thanks for the reminder...Dennis's RV-6A will be there, but he doesn't get
back from Colorado's hunting trip until 5pm tomorrow afternoon, so the girls
and I will be standing guard. Y'all come see us!
Hey, Len, what football game will you be coming to soon? We are looking
forward to meeting you in person.
Lori
PS Hi, George!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Lori & Dennis Millsap
N464DM, RV-6A
RV-10 empecone complete, #40112
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Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: DESTINATIONS
>
> Dont forget Farmville NC [Flanagan Field N08] EAA chapter 960, September
25
> th, plane rides, lunch, Short wing piper club, experimentals, UL, Vintage.
>
> George
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| From: | "James E. Clark" <james(at)nextupventures.com> |
Bill,
We have lot going on here in Columbia this weekend but if you fly down and
get there by 12:00 the BBQ is on me. We can do some formation flying before
or after that.
I have some things to check out on the plane and some things to do late
afternoon that will keep me close to home but we could work something out.
Whadday think??
James
KCUB
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of bill
> crothers
> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 5:45 PM
> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: DESTINATIONS
>
>
>
>
> ok, guys...who's going where saturday? bill c.
> --- gtamvakis(at)earthlink.net wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Dont forget Farmville NC [Flanagan Field N08] EAA
> > chapter 960, September 25
> > th, plane rides, lunch, Short wing piper club,
> > experimentals, UL, Vintage.
> >
> > George
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
> > To: "serv"
> > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: DESTINATIONS
> >
> >
> > Bowen"
> >
> > >
> > > FYI-
> > >
> > > -
> > > Larry Bowen
> > > Larry(at)BowenAero.com
> > > http://BowenAero.com
> > >
> > > ====================
> > >
> > > FLYING DESTINATIONS IN THE MIDATLANTIC REGION THIS
> > WEEKEND:
> > > WILSON, NORTH CAROLINA. An EAA Chapter 1047 Annual
> > Fly-in takes place
> > > September 25 at Wilson Industrial Air Center
> > (W03). Pancake breakfast,
> > > static displays, skydivers, vendors, childen's
> > activities, and plenty
> > > of food. Contact Tom Gregorski, 252/291-8810.
> > >
> > > REIDSVILLE, NORTH CAROLINA. The Third Annual Air
> > Force Junior ROTC Fly-in
> > > takes place September 25 at Rockingham County
> > Shiloh (78N) from 11 a.m.
> > > to 3 p.m. Featuring a hamburger/hot dog lunch,
> > airplane rides, car cruise
> > > on the field, ROTC displays, World War II veteran
> > airman display, and
> > > giveaways. Visit the Web site (
> > http://www.shilohairport.org ).
> > >
> > > CUMBERLAND, MARYLAND. An EAA Chapter 426 Fly-in
> > Breakfast takes place
> > > September 26 at Greater Cumberland Regional (CBE)
> > from 7 to 11 a.m.
> > > Contact Harry Dolly, 814/356-3773.
> > >
> > > NEXT WEEKEND:
> > > DARLINGTON, SOUTH CAROLINA. A Fall Fly-in takes
> > place October 1
> > > through 3 at Darlington County Jetport (UDG).
> > Fly-in for all aircraft
> > > classes. Barbecue on the field Friday; judging and
> > a banquet Saturday.
> > > Contact Jim Wilson, 843/753-7138.
> > >
> > > FRANKLIN, NORTH CAROLINA. The Macon County
> > Aviation Celebration takes
> > > place October 2 at Macon County (1A5). The daylong
> > celebration of
> > > aviation includes vintage aircraft, skydivers,
> > food, and fun for the
> > > entire family. Fly-ins welcome. Contact Tony
> > Angel, 800/336-7829, or
> > > visit the Web site (
> > http://www.franklin-chamber.com ).
> > >
> > > WINCHESTER, VIRGINIA. An EAA Chapter 186 Fall
> > Fly-in takes place October 2
> > > and 3 at Winchester Regional (OKV). Fly-in and
> > pancake breakfast, aircraft
> > > judging, Young Eagle flights, and more. Contact
> > Ms. Tangy Mooney,
> > > 703/361-0294, or visit the Web site (
> > http://www.eaa186.org ).
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> > >
> >
> >
> >
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| From: | bill crothers <bill28104(at)yahoo.com> |
Was offered a free ticket to Wake-Boston College game
last nite. its at noon. thx, but will be going to
Greys Creek tomorrow. hope to get together soon since
wx is excellent..regards, bill
--- "James E. Clark" wrote:
> Clark"
>
> Bill,
>
> We have lot going on here in Columbia this weekend
> but if you fly down and
> get there by 12:00 the BBQ is on me. We can do some
> formation flying before
> or after that.
>
> I have some things to check out on the plane and
> some things to do late
> afternoon that will keep me close to home but we
> could work something out.
>
> Whadday think??
>
> James
> KCUB
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com
> >
>
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com]On
> Behalf Of bill
> > crothers
> > Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 5:45 PM
> > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: DESTINATIONS
> >
> >
> crothers
> >
> >
> > ok, guys...who's going where saturday? bill c.
> > --- gtamvakis(at)earthlink.net wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Dont forget Farmville NC [Flanagan Field N08]
> EAA
> > > chapter 960, September 25
> > > th, plane rides, lunch, Short wing piper club,
> > > experimentals, UL, Vintage.
> > >
> > > George
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
> > > To: "serv"
> > > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: DESTINATIONS
> > >
> > >
> > > Bowen"
> > >
> > > >
> > > > FYI-
> > > >
> > > > -
> > > > Larry Bowen
> > > > Larry(at)BowenAero.com
> > > > http://BowenAero.com
> > > >
> > > > ====================
> > > >
> > > > FLYING DESTINATIONS IN THE MIDATLANTIC REGION
> THIS
> > > WEEKEND:
> > > > WILSON, NORTH CAROLINA. An EAA Chapter 1047
> Annual
> > > Fly-in takes place
> > > > September 25 at Wilson Industrial Air Center
> > > (W03). Pancake breakfast,
> > > > static displays, skydivers, vendors, childen's
> > > activities, and plenty
> > > > of food. Contact Tom Gregorski, 252/291-8810.
> > > >
> > > > REIDSVILLE, NORTH CAROLINA. The Third Annual
> Air
> > > Force Junior ROTC Fly-in
> > > > takes place September 25 at Rockingham County
> > > Shiloh (78N) from 11 a.m.
> > > > to 3 p.m. Featuring a hamburger/hot dog lunch,
> > > airplane rides, car cruise
> > > > on the field, ROTC displays, World War II
> veteran
> > > airman display, and
> > > > giveaways. Visit the Web site (
> > > http://www.shilohairport.org ).
> > > >
> > > > CUMBERLAND, MARYLAND. An EAA Chapter 426
> Fly-in
> > > Breakfast takes place
> > > > September 26 at Greater Cumberland Regional
> (CBE)
> > > from 7 to 11 a.m.
> > > > Contact Harry Dolly, 814/356-3773.
> > > >
> > > > NEXT WEEKEND:
> > > > DARLINGTON, SOUTH CAROLINA. A Fall Fly-in
> takes
> > > place October 1
> > > > through 3 at Darlington County Jetport (UDG).
> > > Fly-in for all aircraft
> > > > classes. Barbecue on the field Friday; judging
> and
> > > a banquet Saturday.
> > > > Contact Jim Wilson, 843/753-7138.
> > > >
> > > > FRANKLIN, NORTH CAROLINA. The Macon County
> > > Aviation Celebration takes
> > > > place October 2 at Macon County (1A5). The
> daylong
> > > celebration of
> > > > aviation includes vintage aircraft, skydivers,
> > > food, and fun for the
> > > > entire family. Fly-ins welcome. Contact Tony
> > > Angel, 800/336-7829, or
> > > > visit the Web site (
> > > http://www.franklin-chamber.com ).
> > > >
> > > > WINCHESTER, VIRGINIA. An EAA Chapter 186 Fall
> > > Fly-in takes place October 2
> > > > and 3 at Winchester Regional (OKV). Fly-in and
> > > pancake breakfast, aircraft
> > > > judging, Young Eagle flights, and more.
> Contact
> > > Ms. Tangy Mooney,
> > > > 703/361-0294, or visit the Web site (
> > > http://www.eaa186.org ).
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| From: | bill crothers <bill28104(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: James - Columbia |
what time do we meet at/over Eastover to go to GC?
haven't been to Eastover, whats identifier? bill c.
--- DAVID DAVENPORT wrote:
> DAVENPORT"
>
> Let me throw my two cents worth in here.... This
> picnic that Wayne8 is
> talking about is put on by the Cape Fear Aero
> Association, and is one of our
> most fun events of the year. It is very informal,
> just come as you are and
> be prepared for good hamburgers and hotdogs. Just
> leave a little money in
> the kitty for next year. We give rides to any kids
> that want to go up, and
> then just go up and play as much as we can stand it.
> Len, this is a great
> excuse to show up as a group formation and show
> these guys what a real
> arrival looks like. You guys come on down. The
> location is Grays Creek, 2GC,
> about six miles due south of Fayetteville airport,
> FAY. Hope to see
> everybody there. If there is a group, we can gather
> up over Eastover Air
> Ranch and go to 2GC from there. What do you guys
> think?
>
> David Davenport
> RV-6
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Lenleg(at)aol.com>
> To:
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: James - Columbia
>
>
> Lenleg(at)aol.com
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 9/22/04 1:34:00 PM Eastern
> Daylight Time,
> N184FN(at)aol.com
> > writes:
> >
> > Len, My old fllying club in FAY is having thier
> ann cookout at Grays
> Creek
> > Airport in Fayetteville on Sunday afternoon. (2GC)
> The SERV is invited
> and
> > I
> > am planning to go and would like for a bunch of us
> to go together if
> > possible.
> > Whould this be something that you would be
> interested in doing? I plan
> to
> > leave after church. W8.
> >
> >
> > Guys ... exactly the type thing we are looking for
> ...
> >
> > We have several options now:
> >
> > 1. Fayetteville with Wayne8
> >
> > 2. Wadesboro for burgers
> >
> > My vote is for Fayetteville and support Wayne8
> with lots of RVs !!!
> >
> > Len
> >
> >
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| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
| Subject: | FW: [RV-8] RV 8/8A Empennage Kit for sale |
FYI -
This might be the same tail as the 7/7A, not sure.
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
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>
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| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
| Subject: | James - Columbia |
http://www.airnav.com/airport/6NC3
I didn't hear of or don't remember the time........
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bill crothers [mailto:bill28104(at)yahoo.com]
> Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2004 9:51 AM
> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: James - Columbia
>
> -->
>
> what time do we meet at/over Eastover to go to GC?
> haven't been to Eastover, whats identifier? bill c.
> --- DAVID DAVENPORT wrote:
>
> > DAVENPORT"
> >
> > Let me throw my two cents worth in here.... This picnic
> that Wayne8 is
> > talking about is put on by the Cape Fear Aero Association,
> and is one
> > of our most fun events of the year. It is very informal,
> just come as
> > you are and be prepared for good hamburgers and hotdogs.
> Just leave a
> > little money in the kitty for next year. We give rides to any kids
> > that want to go up, and then just go up and play as much as we can
> > stand it.
> > Len, this is a great
> > excuse to show up as a group formation and show these guys
> what a real
> > arrival looks like. You guys come on down. The location is Grays
> > Creek, 2GC, about six miles due south of Fayetteville airport, FAY.
> > Hope to see everybody there. If there is a group, we can gather up
> > over Eastover Air Ranch and go to 2GC from there. What do you guys
> > think?
> >
> > David Davenport
> > RV-6
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <Lenleg(at)aol.com>
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: James - Columbia
> >
> >
> > Lenleg(at)aol.com
> > >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 9/22/04 1:34:00 PM Eastern
> > Daylight Time,
> > N184FN(at)aol.com
> > > writes:
> > >
> > > Len, My old fllying club in FAY is having thier
> > ann cookout at Grays
> > Creek
> > > Airport in Fayetteville on Sunday afternoon. (2GC)
> > The SERV is invited
> > and
> > > I
> > > am planning to go and would like for a bunch of us
> > to go together if
> > > possible.
> > > Whould this be something that you would be
> > interested in doing? I plan
> > to
> > > leave after church. W8.
> > >
> > >
> > > Guys ... exactly the type thing we are looking for
> > ...
> > >
> > > We have several options now:
> > >
> > > 1. Fayetteville with Wayne8
> > >
> > > 2. Wadesboro for burgers
> > >
> > > My vote is for Fayetteville and support Wayne8
> > with lots of RVs !!!
> > >
> > > Len
> > >
> > >
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| From: | bill crothers <bill28104(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | James - Columbia |
I'll just go straight to GC and be there about noon.
look forward to seeing whoever can make it, shud be
great day...
--- Larry Bowen wrote:
> Bowen"
>
> http://www.airnav.com/airport/6NC3
>
> I didn't hear of or don't remember the time........
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry(at)BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: bill crothers [mailto:bill28104(at)yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2004 9:51 AM
> > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: James - Columbia
> >
> crothers
> > -->
> >
> > what time do we meet at/over Eastover to go to GC?
> > haven't been to Eastover, whats identifier? bill
> c.
> > --- DAVID DAVENPORT
> wrote:
> >
> > > DAVENPORT"
> > >
> > > Let me throw my two cents worth in here.... This
> picnic
> > that Wayne8 is
> > > talking about is put on by the Cape Fear Aero
> Association,
> > and is one
> > > of our most fun events of the year. It is very
> informal,
> > just come as
> > > you are and be prepared for good hamburgers and
> hotdogs.
> > Just leave a
> > > little money in the kitty for next year. We give
> rides to any kids
> > > that want to go up, and then just go up and play
> as much as we can
> > > stand it.
> > > Len, this is a great
> > > excuse to show up as a group formation and show
> these guys
> > what a real
> > > arrival looks like. You guys come on down. The
> location is Grays
> > > Creek, 2GC, about six miles due south of
> Fayetteville airport, FAY.
> > > Hope to see everybody there. If there is a
> group, we can gather up
> > > over Eastover Air Ranch and go to 2GC from
> there. What do you guys
> > > think?
> > >
> > > David Davenport
> > > RV-6
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <Lenleg(at)aol.com>
> > > To:
> > > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: James - Columbia
> > >
> > >
> > > Lenleg(at)aol.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In a message dated 9/22/04 1:34:00 PM Eastern
> > > Daylight Time,
> > > N184FN(at)aol.com
> > > > writes:
> > > >
> > > > Len, My old fllying club in FAY is having
> thier
> > > ann cookout at Grays
> > > Creek
> > > > Airport in Fayetteville on Sunday afternoon.
> (2GC)
> > > The SERV is invited
> > > and
> > > > I
> > > > am planning to go and would like for a bunch
> of us
> > > to go together if
> > > > possible.
> > > > Whould this be something that you would be
> > > interested in doing? I plan
> > > to
> > > > leave after church. W8.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Guys ... exactly the type thing we are looking
> for
> > > ...
> > > >
> > > > We have several options now:
> > > >
> > > > 1. Fayetteville with Wayne8
> > > >
> > > > 2. Wadesboro for burgers
> > > >
> > > > My vote is for Fayetteville and support Wayne8
> > > with lots of RVs !!!
> > > >
> > > > Len
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -
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| From: | "DAVID DAVENPORT" <ddavenport5(at)nc.rr.com> |
Hey guys, are we still on for 2:00PM at Eastover Airpark to meet up for flying
in to Grays Creek? Who's going to be there?
David Dvaenport
RV-6 N168DD
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| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
Bill C. was going straight to GC at noon. Haven't heard from the others....
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David, I'm coming, but haven't been to Eastover.
whats identifier. will they still be having lunch
that late at GC?
--- DAVID DAVENPORT wrote:
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| Subject: | Re: Sunday meeting |
I might make the final appearance of mine - its sold and moving to Boston
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| Subject: | Re: Sunday meeting |
Bill, the ID is 6NC3. We will have plenty of time since they won't start
serving the food until around 3-4 PM. See you at Eastover
David
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| Subject: | Re: Sunday meeting |
Sorry i missed you guys...didn't get this message
until i got home. ed, mike b. and i waited til 2:30
thinking it was lunch burgers. i left looking at dark
low clouds to east. heard you coming in w/ a 3 ship
formation when i'm 10 miles west. oh well, there's
next time. sure got hungrey waiting...bill c.
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> Eastover
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| From: | "Bill Repucci" <bill(at)repucci.com> |
How about a meeting in my basement where all of you experienced builders
can help me finish riveting my wing skins on?
I thought some of you -3, -4, & -6 builders might be interested in the
inter workings of an RV-9 wing.
Bill R.
Huntersville, NC
www.repucci.com/bill/baf.html
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Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Sunday meeting
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Hey guys, are we still on for 2:00PM at Eastover Airpark to meet up for
flying in to Grays Creek? Who's going to be there?
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Sure. Date? Time? Directions?
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Repucci [mailto:bill(at)repucci.com]
> Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 7:29 PM
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> interested in the inter workings of an RV-9 wing.
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> www.repucci.com/bill/baf.html
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Bill if you need a hand riveting call my office 704-987-0191
Tad Sargent 7A
"Bill Repucci" wrote:
>
>How about a meeting in my basement where all of you experienced builders
>can help me finish riveting my wing skins on?
>
>I thought some of you -3, -4, & -6 builders might be interested in the
>inter workings of an RV-9 wing.
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| From: | "Bill Repucci" <bill(at)repucci.com> |
Tad,
Thanks for the offer, I'll give you a call. The real problem is my new
job has me working in Raleigh all week, which leaves very little time
for me to spend with my new bride.
Bill
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Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Sunday meeting
Bill if you need a hand riveting call my office 704-987-0191 Tad Sargent
7A
"Bill Repucci" wrote:
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>
>How about a meeting in my basement where all of you experienced
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>
>I thought some of you -3, -4, & -6 builders might be interested in the
>inter workings of an RV-9 wing.
>
>Bill R.
>Huntersville, NC
>www.repucci.com/bill/baf.html
>
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| Subject: | Re: DESTINATIONS |
In a message dated 9/24/04 5:57:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
dwmillsap(at)hyperlogic.net writes:
Thanks for the reminder...Dennis's RV-6A will be there, but he doesn't get
back from Colorado's hunting trip until 5pm tomorrow afternoon, so the girls
and I will be standing guard. Y'all come see us!
Hey, Len, what football game will you be coming to soon? We are looking
forward to meeting you in person.
Lori
Sorry Lori .... I did not check email all weekend ... I was at the game on
Saturday against Cincinnati. We tailgate in spot # 259 behind Minges Colesium
in what is called "lower parking". Please come by the next home game ....
Len
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| Subject: | Re: DESTINATIONS |
In a message dated 9/25/04 8:21:04 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
bill28104(at)yahoo.com writes:
Was offered a free ticket to Wake-Boston College game
last nite. its at noon. thx, but will be going to
Greys Creek tomorrow. hope to get together soon since
wx is excellent..regards, bill
Bill:
Mike Barbee said we just missed you at Greys Creek ... Dave, John, and I
arrived right after you. We got held up at Eastover but finally got over to
Greys Creek around 2:00pm or a little after.
Sorry we missed you.
Len Leggette, RV-8A
Greensboro, N.C. N910LL
276 hrs
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| Subject: | Fwd: Reminder - EAA Chapter Fly-in Winchester, VA |
In a message dated 9/25/04 8:03:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.
EAA Chapter Fly-in Winchester, VA
Date: Saturday, October 2, 2004
Displays, judging, fly-bye's, Breakfast, Lunch
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Date: Saturday, October 2, 2004
Displays, judging, fly-bye's, Breakfast, Lunch
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| Subject: | Re: Sunday meeting |
In a message dated 9/26/04 11:16:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
bill(at)repucci.com writes:
Thanks for the offer, I'll give you a call. The real problem is my new
job has me working in Raleigh all week, which leaves very little time
for me to spend with my new bride.
Bill
Bill:
You have really set yourself up for this one ... I just can't resist ....
I don't know how much help I can be on the plane but maybe I can help with
your other problem !!!! JUST KIDDING !!!!
Len Leggette, RV-8A
Greensboro, N.C. N910LL
276 hrs
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| Subject: | Goldsboro Members |
Mike Barbee:
I have four names on the Van's Builders list for Goldsboro. I don't know
which is the nice young couple based there but they would be wonderful to get
to your fly-in ... you might want to try to write all four of these and see
which one it is.
William Savage 111 Windyfield Dr Goldsboro, NC 27530
Christopher Mallory 110 Planters Place Goldsboro, NC 27530
Patrick Pence 611 E. Beech St. Goldsboro, NC 27530
Darrell Ham 204 Benton St. Goldsboro, NC 27530
Good luck !!
Len
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| Subject: | Greys Creek Fly In |
SERV:
A little recap for those of you that did not make the Greys Creek Fly In.
Wayne8 and I departed Greensboro around 1:00pm to meet up with Dave Davenport
and John Wilson at Eastover Airpark just north of Fayetteville for the short
flight over to Greys Creek.
As Wayne8 and I arrived Dave and John were on the ground already judging our
approaches and landings !!! We laid out our plans for a flight of three ...
yes Wayne8 decided not to make the trip over with us for reasons only he
will be able to give ..... John led us over and into trail for a low pass down
the runway .... love my RV !!!
We circled to land on 25 (which is very narrow !!) and back taxi . There
were probably 30 or so planes on the ground including a few SERV members, Ed
Regensburg, Mike Barbee, and Bill Carothers had just departed. There was one
other recently completed RV-6A without paint that I saw takeoff but did not
get the opportunity to say hello ... might be Robert from Fayetteville ?????
Loved the atmoshpere at Greys Creek .. a small country airport ... with lots
of nice people. Mike Barbee probably had the most fun ... he flew in with a
friend that recently purchased the Giles 202 with the awesome paint job that
was featured in Sport Aviation about 6 months ago ... Primal Fear ... or
something like that. He let me touch the controls and I am not sure I could fly
the darn thing ... those controls are unbelievable .. extremely smooth and I
am sure it does not take much to move the plane !!! Mike said they flew
togther and his friend would just turn it inverted and fly along with them !!!
It was a lot of fun ... hope more of you will make it next time !!!
Anyone going to Winchester ... Darlington ... etc this weekend?
Len
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In a message dated 9/28/04 9:51:32 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
pat_hatch(at)msn.com writes:
Hi Len,
Well the RV-4 got finished off...after Frances it was pinned under the roof
trusses but did not have major damage. Now it is burried under the concrete
block wall that collapsed on top of it. I'll send you pictures as soon as I
can. Insurance has already agreed that it is now totalled so I'll get full
value.
Home is OK. We are headed back there today from Orlando where we have been
staying in a hotel.
The rental hangar I was in got blown down, so I sustained even more damage
to all my hangar stuff. The good news is the the -6 and -7 are fine. I had
flown them down to a safe hangar in Ft. Pierce.
We are already making plans to build a new, modern, hurricane-proof hangar!
I'll fill in all the details when we get settled back home. But right now
we are going back to no power, water or sewer. We have a generator so that
will help. Hope to have electricity back in a few days.
Later,
Pat
From: "Fletcher Hatch" <pat_hatch(at)msn.com>
Subject: RE: Hurricane
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 12:50:21 +0000
Hi Len,
Well the RV-4 got finished off...after Frances it was pinned under the roof
trusses but did not have major damage. Now it is burried under the concrete
block wall that collapsed on top of it. I'll send you pictures as soon as I
can. Insurance has already agreed that it is now totalled so I'll get full
value.
Home is OK. We are headed back there today from Orlando where we have been
staying in a hotel.
The rental hangar I was in got blown down, so I sustained even more damage
to all my hangar stuff. The good news is the the -6 and -7 are fine. I had
flown them down to a safe hangar in Ft. Pierce.
We are already making plans to build a new, modern, hurricane-proof hangar!
I'll fill in all the details when we get settled back home. But right now
we are going back to no power, water or sewer. We have a generator so that
will help. Hope to have electricity back in a few days.
Later,
Pat
>From: Lenleg(at)aol.com
>To: pat_hatch(at)msn.com
>Subject: Hurricane
>Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 07:51:20 EDT
>
>Pat:
>
>I hate to even be sending this email but ... how did you make out this
>time?
>
>
>Len Leggette, RV-8A
>Greensboro, N.C. N910LL
>276 hrs
>
>
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| From: | TWOBARBEE(at)wmconnect.com |
| Subject: | Re: Goldsboro Members |
Thanks,Len Mike
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| From: | "rlarv6(at)juno.com" <rlarv6(at)juno.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Greys Creek Fly In |
Hi Len,
Sounds like Greys Creek was lots of fun. I plan on making it to Winchester or Darlington
this weedend either Saturday or Sunday. Winchester on Saturday is my
preference but would be open to either. Just got my new "Southeast RV Spuadron"
hat and shirts in the mail this week. They look great and I'm ready to wear
them!
Ron Archer
N247AR
RV-6 IPJ
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| From: | "Ed Anderson" <eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com> |
Any of you folks planning on going to SERF this weekend?
Ed
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
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| From: | "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com> |
That's A Little Too Close
Airman Forced To Land After Close Encounter With Presidential TFR
The pilot of a small aircraft was forced to land Wednesday, after his
aircraft got just a little too close to President Bush, who was on a
campaign swing through King Of Prussia and the western part of the Keystone
State.
WPVI-TV reports the 84-year old pilot from New Jersey and his passenger were
up for one of those $50 cups of coffee when they were intercepted. They were
forced to land at Pottstown-Limerick Airport and questioned by both the FBI
and Secret Service.
"He was in the wrong place at the wrong time," said airport operations
manager Chris Jordan. "The gentleman was just going for a cup of coffee in
Chester County and didn't quite make it."
There were conflicting reports of just who forced the elderly pilot down --
a state police helicopter or USAF F-15 jets. WPVI reported the jet crews
fired flares to get the civilian's attention before escorting him to
Pottstown-Limerick.
After more than three hours of questioning, the pilot and his passenger were
allowed to go free. There was no immediate indication on whether the pilot,
whose name wasn't released, would be charged with violating restricted
airspace.
Watch our for those TFR's.
Steve Glasgow
704-362-0005
704-281-7884
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| From: | "DAVID DAVENPORT" <ddavenport5(at)nc.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Greys Creek Fly In |
If you're looking for opinions for Saturday, Darlington has more antique &
classic planes, whereas Winchester is pretty much "across the board". Being
an old plane buff, I would prefer Darlington Saturday, but I'm like Ron,
I'll go either way. Somebody make it a tie-breaker. Len, your levels of
decorum concering last Sunday are amazing. Someone owes you some big hush
money.
David
N168DD
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Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Greys Creek Fly In
>
>
> Hi Len,
> Sounds like Greys Creek was lots of fun. I plan on making it to Winchester
or Darlington this weedend either Saturday or Sunday. Winchester on Saturday
is my preference but would be open to either. Just got my new "Southeast RV
Spuadron" hat and shirts in the mail this week. They look great and I'm
ready to wear them!
>
> Ron Archer
> N247AR
> RV-6 IPJ
>
>
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| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
I can't, but in case others are on the fence, here is more info:
http://www.serfi.org/
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: SERFI
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| From: | "James E. Clark" <james(at)nextupventures.com> |
Two RV's out of Columbia plan to make the trip (early Saturday morning).
You headed down Ed?
James
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>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ed Anderson [mailto:eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 2:28 PM
> > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: SERFI
> >
> > -->
> >
> > Any of you folks planning on going to SERF this weekend?
> >
> > Ed
> >
> > Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
> > Matthews, NC
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| From: | "Ed Anderson" <eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com> |
Yes, James, I plan to head out tomorrow morning (Friday). Are you one of
the two RVs headed down from Columbia?
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From: "James E. Clark" <james(at)nextupventures.com>
Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: SERFI
>
> Two RV's out of Columbia plan to make the trip (early Saturday morning).
>
> You headed down Ed?
>
> James
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Larry
> > Bowen
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 7:09 PM
> > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> > Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: SERFI
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I can't, but in case others are on the fence, here is more info:
> >
> > http://www.serfi.org/
> >
> > -
> > Larry Bowen
> > Larry(at)BowenAero.com
> > http://BowenAero.com
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ed Anderson [mailto:eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 2:28 PM
> > > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> > > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: SERFI
> > >
> > > -->
> > >
> > > Any of you folks planning on going to SERF this weekend?
> > >
> > > Ed
> > >
> > > Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
> > > Matthews, NC
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| From: | "James E. Clark" <james(at)nextupventures.com> |
Yes,
Ken (+ a passenger) along with Patty and I are coming in our two RVs.
James
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ed
> Anderson
> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 9:37 AM
> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: SERFI
>
>
>
>
> Yes, James, I plan to head out tomorrow morning (Friday). Are you one of
> the two RVs headed down from Columbia?
>
> Ed
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James E. Clark" <james(at)nextupventures.com>
> To:
> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: SERFI
>
>
>
> >
> > Two RV's out of Columbia plan to make the trip (early Saturday morning).
> >
> > You headed down Ed?
> >
> > James
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com
> > > [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Larry
> > > Bowen
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 7:09 PM
> > > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> > > Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: SERFI
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I can't, but in case others are on the fence, here is more info:
> > >
> > > http://www.serfi.org/
> > >
> > > -
> > > Larry Bowen
> > > Larry(at)BowenAero.com
> > > http://BowenAero.com
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Ed Anderson [mailto:eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 2:28 PM
> > > > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> > > > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: SERFI
> > > >
> > > > -->
> > > >
> > > > Any of you folks planning on going to SERF this weekend?
> > > >
> > > > Ed
> > > >
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| Subject: | Darlington (UDG) Saturday? |
Guys:
I vote for Darlington on Saturday !! I would prefer to go early in the
morning ... I will not plan to stay all day ... make a morning out of it !!
Anyone want to meet somewhere along the way?
Len Leggette, RV-8A
Greensboro, N.C. N910LL
276 hrs
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| From: | "Ed Anderson" <eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com> |
Ok, look forward to seeing everyone there at SERFI
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From: "James E. Clark" <james(at)nextupventures.com>
Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: SERFI
>
> Yes,
>
> Ken (+ a passenger) along with Patty and I are coming in our two RVs.
>
> James
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ed
> > Anderson
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 9:37 AM
> > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: SERFI
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yes, James, I plan to head out tomorrow morning (Friday). Are you one
of
> > the two RVs headed down from Columbia?
> >
> > Ed
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "James E. Clark" <james(at)nextupventures.com>
> > To:
> > Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: SERFI
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Two RV's out of Columbia plan to make the trip (early Saturday
morning).
> > >
> > > You headed down Ed?
> > >
> > > James
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com
> > > > [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of
Larry
> > > > Bowen
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 7:09 PM
> > > > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> > > > Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: SERFI
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I can't, but in case others are on the fence, here is more info:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.serfi.org/
> > > >
> > > > -
> > > > Larry Bowen
> > > > Larry(at)BowenAero.com
> > > > http://BowenAero.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Ed Anderson [mailto:eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 2:28 PM
> > > > > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> > > > > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: SERFI
> > > > >
> > > > > -->
> > > > >
> > > > > Any of you folks planning on going to SERF this weekend?
> > > > >
> > > > > Ed
> > > > >
> > > > > Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
> > > > > Matthews, NC
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| From: | "DAVID DAVENPORT" <ddavenport5(at)nc.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Darlington (UDG) Saturday? |
Len, how does 45J, Rockingham sound for a meeting place? What time would you
have in mind?
David
----- Original Message -----
From: <Lenleg(at)aol.com>
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Darlington (UDG) Saturday?
>
> Guys:
>
> I vote for Darlington on Saturday !! I would prefer to go early in the
> morning ... I will not plan to stay all day ... make a morning out of it
!!
>
> Anyone want to meet somewhere along the way?
>
> Len Leggette, RV-8A
> Greensboro, N.C. N910LL
> 276 hrs
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Darlington (UDG) Saturday? |
In a message dated 9/30/04 8:41:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
ddavenport5(at)nc.rr.com writes:
Len, how does 45J, Rockingham sound for a meeting place? What time would you
have in mind?
David
I am pretty open for time .. I just have to get home to get some yard work
done ... anytime early in the morning is great ... ???????
Len
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| From: | "DAVID DAVENPORT" <ddavenport5(at)nc.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Darlington (UDG) Saturday? |
Len, how does 9:30 at 45J sound? By the way, I need to do yard work as well,
so we are on the same sheet of music here.
David
----- Original Message -----
From: <Lenleg(at)aol.com>
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Darlington (UDG) Saturday?
>
>
> In a message dated 9/30/04 8:41:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> ddavenport5(at)nc.rr.com writes:
>
> Len, how does 45J, Rockingham sound for a meeting place? What time would
you
> have in mind?
>
> David
>
>
> I am pretty open for time .. I just have to get home to get some yard work
> done ... anytime early in the morning is great ... ???????
>
> Len
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Darlington (UDG) Saturday? |
In a message dated 10/1/2004 8:30:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
ddavenport5(at)nc.rr.com writes:
Len, how does 9:30 at 45J sound? By the way, I need to do yard work as well,
so we are on the same sheet of music here.
David
That sounds great ... hope the weather allows ... we have had fog all day
and they are calling for light rain, fog, and mostly cloudy all morning.
Len
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| From: | "DAVID DAVENPORT" <ddavenport5(at)nc.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Darlington (UDG) Saturday? |
I'll call you in the morning, and we''ll tackle the weather question then.
Talk to you in the morning.
David
----- Original Message -----
From: <Lenleg(at)aol.com>
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Darlington (UDG) Saturday?
>
>
> In a message dated 10/1/2004 8:30:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> ddavenport5(at)nc.rr.com writes:
>
>
> Len, how does 9:30 at 45J sound? By the way, I need to do yard work as
well,
> so we are on the same sheet of music here.
>
> David
>
>
> That sounds great ... hope the weather allows ... we have had fog all day
> and they are calling for light rain, fog, and mostly cloudy all morning.
>
> Len
>
>
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| From: | "James E. Clark" <james(at)nextupventures.com> |
| Subject: | Darlington (UDG) Saturday? |
Looks like the Columbia Crew might be going to Darlington instead of SERFI
(weather).
Hope to see some of the SERV gang there (Darlington).
James
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of DAVID
> DAVENPORT
> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:01 PM
> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Darlington (UDG) Saturday?
>
>
>
>
> I'll call you in the morning, and we''ll tackle the weather question then.
> Talk to you in the morning.
>
> David
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Lenleg(at)aol.com>
> To:
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Darlington (UDG) Saturday?
>
>
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 10/1/2004 8:30:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > ddavenport5(at)nc.rr.com writes:
> >
> >
> > Len, how does 9:30 at 45J sound? By the way, I need to do yard work as
> well,
> > so we are on the same sheet of music here.
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> > That sounds great ... hope the weather allows ... we have had
> fog all day
> > and they are calling for light rain, fog, and mostly cloudy all morning.
> >
> > Len
> >
> >
>
>
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| From: | "Ed Anderson" <eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Darlington (UDG) Saturday? |
Does not look like I will be going to either, ceiling down to 200 (or less),
fog and less than 1/4 mile visibility again today.
Ed Anderson
----- Original Message -----
From: "James E. Clark" <james(at)nextupventures.com>
Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Darlington (UDG) Saturday?
>
> Looks like the Columbia Crew might be going to Darlington instead of SERFI
> (weather).
>
> Hope to see some of the SERV gang there (Darlington).
>
> James
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of DAVID
> > DAVENPORT
> > Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:01 PM
> > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Darlington (UDG) Saturday?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I'll call you in the morning, and we''ll tackle the weather question
then.
> > Talk to you in the morning.
> >
> > David
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <Lenleg(at)aol.com>
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Darlington (UDG) Saturday?
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 10/1/2004 8:30:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > > ddavenport5(at)nc.rr.com writes:
> > >
> > >
> > > Len, how does 9:30 at 45J sound? By the way, I need to do yard work
as
> > well,
> > > so we are on the same sheet of music here.
> > >
> > > David
> > >
> > >
> > > That sounds great ... hope the weather allows ... we have had
> > fog all day
> > > and they are calling for light rain, fog, and mostly cloudy all
morning.
> > >
> > > Len
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| From: | "James E. Clark" <james(at)nextupventures.com> |
| Subject: | Darlington (UDG) Saturday? |
Understood Ed.
We did not get a chance to leave Columbia until after 1 PM (almost 2 PM) due
to the same weather. Flew down as a flight of THREE RVs.
After we got there it RAINED!
After the rain passed, we decided we had best make it back to Columbia. As
we were taxiing out 2 RVs from NC flew in, saw us leaving and did a low
pass. One of them was the yellow and white "Songbird".
There were at least two other RV6's there and an RV8. Not bad for an
"Antique and Classic Fly-in". I expect there will be a LOT more next year of
the weather is good.
Hope to see ya in Columbia again one of these days.
James
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ed
> Anderson
> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 10:05 AM
> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Darlington (UDG) Saturday?
>
>
>
>
> Does not look like I will be going to either, ceiling down to 200
> (or less),
> fog and less than 1/4 mile visibility again today.
>
> Ed Anderson
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James E. Clark" <james(at)nextupventures.com>
> To:
> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Darlington (UDG) Saturday?
>
>
>
> >
> > Looks like the Columbia Crew might be going to Darlington
> instead of SERFI
> > (weather).
> >
> > Hope to see some of the SERV gang there (Darlington).
> >
> > James
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com
> > > [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of DAVID
> > > DAVENPORT
> > > Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:01 PM
> > > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> > > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Darlington (UDG) Saturday?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I'll call you in the morning, and we''ll tackle the weather question
> then.
> > > Talk to you in the morning.
> > >
> > > David
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <Lenleg(at)aol.com>
> > > To:
> > > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Darlington (UDG) Saturday?
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In a message dated 10/1/2004 8:30:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > > > ddavenport5(at)nc.rr.com writes:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Len, how does 9:30 at 45J sound? By the way, I need to do yard work
> as
> > > well,
> > > > so we are on the same sheet of music here.
> > > >
> > > > David
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > That sounds great ... hope the weather allows ... we have had
> > > fog all day
> > > > and they are calling for light rain, fog, and mostly cloudy all
> morning.
> > > >
> > > > Len
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Darlington (UDG) Saturday? |
In a message dated 10/2/2004 8:52:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
james(at)nextupventures.com writes:
There were at least two other RV6's there and an RV8. Not bad for an
"Antique and Classic Fly-in". I expect there will be a LOT more next year of
the weather is good.
Sounds like Mike Barbee.
Len
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| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
Lousy wx means more time wasted in front of the computer. Check out the
video of my second flight on my website. Still working on the first flight
video....
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
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| From: | "Radomir Zaric" <vitez(at)carolina.rr.com> |
Awesome!! It's nice to hear all the details, like speed callouts etc..
But weird to hear myself on the radio :)
Keep 'em coming.
Radomir
-----Original Message-----
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Home movies
Lousy wx means more time wasted in front of the computer. Check out the
video of my second flight on my website. Still working on the first flight
video....
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | TWOBARBEE(at)wmconnect.com |
| Subject: | Re: Darlington (UDG) Saturday? |
Yes, That was Ben & Mike
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| From: | "Radomir Zaric" <vitez(at)carolina.rr.com> |
| Subject: | aileron bellcrank |
Hey guys,
I'm installing the aileron bellcrank, and was wondering about the brass
bushing that goes through. It's now sticking out, by about 1/32" on each
side. When installed, that allows the bellcrank to actually move up/down a
little bit. Is that OK?
Also, the nut is barely on the bolt in that situation.. I'd say 1-2 threads
are showing (hard to say due to the locking plastic being there).I guess it
goes a bit deeper, if we don't count that plastic.
Does this sound right? Is bellcrank supposed to move even slightly between
the brackets?
Thanks!
Radomir
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| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
| Subject: | aileron bellcrank |
Sounds just right. The brass should be whats compressed between the other
parts, allowing the bellcrank to spin freely (and go up/down a little).
If you aren't happy with the threads showing on the bolt, try a thin washer.
If you don't have these already, buy 100. You'll use 'em later.
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Radomir Zaric [mailto:vitez(at)carolina.rr.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 10:16 PM
> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: aileron bellcrank
>
> -->
>
> Hey guys,
>
>
> I'm installing the aileron bellcrank, and was wondering about
> the brass bushing that goes through. It's now sticking out,
> by about 1/32" on each side. When installed, that allows the
> bellcrank to actually move up/down a little bit. Is that OK?
>
>
> Also, the nut is barely on the bolt in that situation.. I'd
> say 1-2 threads are showing (hard to say due to the locking
> plastic being there).I guess it goes a bit deeper, if we
> don't count that plastic.
>
>
> Does this sound right? Is bellcrank supposed to move even
> slightly between the brackets?
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> Radomir
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| From: | "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com> |
OK I finally have a weekend off and I'm planning on going to Stormy's.
How about some info on time, rwy, L/L, etc.
Come in Stormy!
By the way my shoulder is sore so don't count on any lumberjack stuff.
Steve Glasgow
704-362-0005
704-281-7884
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| From: | SportAV8R(at)aol.com |
Timely inquiry, Steve, as I was just about to post a question to gauge the general
interest level...
I'm still planning onthe get-together Saturday. Wx prog looks good. Fall colors
are just beginning, but promising. No lumberjacking will be expected of guests-
that was a joke. I am serious about grilling some shrimp as well as tube-steaks,
but need a head count to help with that.
RWY info is best had from AirNav.com under airport identifier 12VA. We'll monitor
122.85 on the handie-talkie for a Unicom of sorts.
Aiming for an afternoon start time of about 3pm and winding down by 6 to give everyone
a chance to get home (dark is about 7 by now). We'll supply food and
drinks; no need for anyone to bring anything thing time unless they just want
to. Covered dish contributions will not be turned away :-)
Len- check with Larry Small to see if he can make it.
"Rain date" of the following Saturday would be fine with me, as would Sunday the
10th. I'd be glad to move the event in case of weather or low anticipated turnout;
it's a "group call" as far as I am concerned.
-Stormy
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In a message dated 10/5/04 12:33:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
SportAV8R(at)aol.com writes:
"Rain date" of the following Saturday would be fine with me, as would Sunday
the 10th. I'd be glad to move the event in case of weather or low
anticipated turnout; it's a "group call" as far as I am concerned.
-Stormy
It is very doubtful that I will be able to attend as we start the Furniture
Market first thing Sunday morning. If I get a break I may try to do a quick
up and back ... just have to see how the week goes and how the morning on
Saturday goes.
Len
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| From: | N136CH(at)webtv.net (Charlie Hall) |
| Subject: | Pace Anual Pigpicking |
I was up at Pace today and Tommy's son Ben asked me to invite the RV
group . Serving starts at 2PM , Saturday the 9th. If the date changes
for the RV get=together this would be a good place to go.
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| From: | N136CH(at)webtv.net (Charlie Hall) |
Has anybody had to change the incedence angle? I have to use too much
nose down trim to maintain level flight. The elevator is in trail with
the horizontal stab. with a lot of trim. I have added 1 washer under
the front spar with little emprovement. Any ideas of how much I will
have to raise it?
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| From: | "Wayne Williams" <rwayne(at)gamewood.net> |
Charlie:
This is usually a CG issue. I'd discuss it with Van's before changing the
incidence angle. You may be able to fix it by moving your battery to the
front, or something like that.
Wayne
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Charlie
Hall
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: incedence angle
Has anybody had to change the incedence angle? I have to use too much
nose down trim to maintain level flight. The elevator is in trail with
the horizontal stab. with a lot of trim. I have added 1 washer under
the front spar with little emprovement. Any ideas of how much I will
have to raise it?
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| From: | SportAV8R(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Stomy's Fall Fly-in: it's fish-or-cut-bait time! |
Okay, gang: who's in and who's out? I need to know what's best for the bunch of
ya.
Here are the date choices (all are equally fine with me):
Saturday, Oct 9.
Sunday, Oct 10.
Saturday Ot 16.
Sunday, Oct 17.
Afternoon fly-in BBQ thing with fall colors to look at, ten adorable puppies to
pet, horseshoes to pitch, etc, etc. (If anyone wanted to overnight camp or RON
at the house, they'd be welcome to - we will have a campfire going and a place
to set a tent, with amenities.) We're talking afternoon here, around 3pm
start time, going until everyone has to scatter before dark.
Everything on my end is rather easily thrown together at the last minute, so your
votes will largely determine the date we do this. But I need to know who is
interested in what dates (parties are more fun if your guests show up!) The
fall foliage will likely peak here the weekend of the 16th, FWIW.
Circulate this on the MARV and OVRV lists, too, please. I don't want to compete
with anyone else's parade, but I'd like to invite everyone who might be interested.
-Stormy
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| From: | TWOBARBEE(at)wmconnect.com |
| Subject: | Re: Stomy's Fall Fly-in: it's fish-or-cut-bait time! |
Hi Stormy, We're be out of town Oct. 9 & 10 for granddaughter's first
birthday. Mike Barbee
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| From: | "BOB martin" <libertyva(at)msn.com> |
| Subject: | Stomy's Fall Fly-in: it's fish-or-cut-bait time!louisa |
gang
Stormy
when ever you set it up.......we will try to be there......we are like
neighbors!
my -6 is down with a leaking fuel tank, but we have it under control. Larrys
-6 is good to go!
Looking forward to flying into your place in the fall...
Our hanger buddy Bill has his Long-ez back but sure he will pass on the
grass strip. We will try to bring him right seat.
Bob Martin, Louisa Va
>From: SportAV8R(at)aol.com
>Reply-To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
>To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
>Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Stomy's Fall Fly-in: it's fish-or-cut-bait time!
>Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 21:11:19 -0400
>
>
>Okay, gang: who's in and who's out? I need to know what's best for the
>bunch of ya.
>
>Here are the date choices (all are equally fine with me):
>Saturday, Oct 9.
>Sunday, Oct 10.
>Saturday Ot 16.
>Sunday, Oct 17.
>
>Afternoon fly-in BBQ thing with fall colors to look at, ten adorable
>puppies to pet, horseshoes to pitch, etc, etc. (If anyone wanted to
>overnight camp or RON at the house, they'd be welcome to - we will have a
>campfire going and a place to set a tent, with amenities.) We're talking
>afternoon here, around 3pm start time, going until everyone has to scatter
>before dark.
>
>Everything on my end is rather easily thrown together at the last minute,
>so your votes will largely determine the date we do this. But I need to
>know who is interested in what dates (parties are more fun if your guests
>show up!) The fall foliage will likely peak here the weekend of the 16th,
>FWIW.
>
>Circulate this on the MARV and OVRV lists, too, please. I don't want to
>compete with anyone else's parade, but I'd like to invite everyone who
>might be interested.
>
>-Stormy
>
>
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| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
At the rate I'm going, I'll be on the 50 mile leash for a while. So I'm a
definate "don't know".
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: SportAV8R(at)aol.com [mailto:SportAV8R(at)aol.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 12:33 PM
> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Stomy's
>
>
> Timely inquiry, Steve, as I was just about to post a question
> to gauge the general interest level...
>
> I'm still planning onthe get-together Saturday. Wx prog
> looks good. Fall colors are just beginning, but promising.
> No lumberjacking will be expected of guests- that was a joke.
> I am serious about grilling some shrimp as well as
> tube-steaks, but need a head count to help with that.
>
> RWY info is best had from AirNav.com under airport identifier
> 12VA. We'll monitor 122.85 on the handie-talkie for a Unicom
> of sorts.
>
> Aiming for an afternoon start time of about 3pm and winding
> down by 6 to give everyone a chance to get home (dark is
> about 7 by now). We'll supply food and drinks; no need for
> anyone to bring anything thing time unless they just want to.
> Covered dish contributions will not be turned away :-)
>
> Len- check with Larry Small to see if he can make it.
>
> "Rain date" of the following Saturday would be fine with me,
> as would Sunday the 10th. I'd be glad to move the event in
> case of weather or low anticipated turnout; it's a "group
> call" as far as I am concerned.
>
> -Stormy
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: incedence angle |
In a message dated 10/5/04 8:36:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
N136CH(at)webtv.net writes:
Has anybody had to change the incedence angle? I have to use too much
nose down trim to maintain level flight. The elevator is in trail with
the horizontal stab. with a lot of trim. I have added 1 washer under
the front spar with little emprovement. Any ideas of how much I will
have to raise it?
Are you sure it is not the setting of the trim ... if the elevator is in
trail with the stab ... the trim light should be in the center ...
Len
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Stomy's Fall Fly-in: it's fish-or-cut-bait time! |
In a message dated 10/5/04 9:11:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
SportAV8R(at)aol.com writes:
Okay, gang: who's in and who's out? I need to know what's best for the
bunch of ya.
Here are the date choices (all are equally fine with me):
Saturday, Oct 9.
Sunday, Oct 10.
Saturday Ot 16.
Sunday, Oct 17.
I hate to even chime in here since I don't even know if I can come or not
but ...
If I can come it would be this Saturday ... the weekend of the 16th I am at
the Furniture Market for the entire weekend ...but again my vote should not
count !!
Len
________________________________________________________________________________
In a message dated 10/5/04 10:12:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Larry(at)bowenaero.com writes:
At the rate I'm going, I'll be on the 50 mile leash for a while. So I'm a
definate "don't know".
We have a trip to Florida planned ... I do not want to hear this stuff ...
Fly that plane !!!
Len
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
I'm getting there. But everytime I fly, there is something else to look
at. Last night the xpdr was dead. Flew a little without it, then came
back to troubleshoot. It was one of those disassemble, check, find
nothing, reassemble, and now it works things.
-
Larry Bowen, RV-8, 6 hrs.
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
Lenleg(at)aol.com said:
>
>
> In a message dated 10/5/04 10:12:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> Larry(at)bowenaero.com writes:
>
> At the rate I'm going, I'll be on the 50 mile leash for a while. So I'm
> a
> definate "don't know".
>
>
> We have a trip to Florida planned ... I do not want to hear this stuff ...
> Fly that plane !!!
>
> Len
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
In a message dated 10/6/04 8:56:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
Larry(at)bowenaero.com writes:
I'm getting there. But everytime I fly, there is something else to look
at. Last night the xpdr was dead. Flew a little without it, then came
back to troubleshoot. It was one of those disassemble, check, find
nothing, reassemble, and now it works things.
You should be doing like I did .... fly early every morning for an hour too
... I know you start to work too early but maybe on weekends !!
Len
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | SportAV8R(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Stomy's Fall Fly-in: it's fish-or-cut-bait time! |
Hi Stormy, We're be out of town Oct. 9 & 10 for granddaughter's first
birthday. Mike Barbee
Thanks, Mike. Have a good one. We will factor that into the decision - I'll try
to make a final call by tomorrow am at the latest.
-Stormy
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | SportAV8R(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Stomy's Fall Fly-in: it's fish-or-cut-bait time!louisa |
gang
Stormy
when ever you set it up.......we will try to be there......we are like
neighbors!
Bob: gotcha, buddy. Glad to hear you're "in" no matter what :-)
-Stormy
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | SportAV8R(at)aol.com |
At the rate I'm going, I'll be on the 50 mile leash for a while. So I'm a
definate "don't know".
We'll put you down as a back-seater, then :-)
-Stormy
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | SportAV8R(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Stomy's Fall Fly-in: it's fish-or-cut-bait time! |
If I can come it would be this Saturday ... the weekend of the 16th I am at
the Furniture Market for the entire weekend ...but again my vote should not
count !!
Len
Okay, Len. Zap! - you're disenfranchised, just like that!
Since I hope to see you, we'll lean towards this Saturday, and maybe even let some
dead people and illegal aliens vote in this one.
-Stormy
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | SportAV8R(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Larry's transponder troubles |
Last night the xpdr was dead. Flew a little without it, then came
back to troubleshoot. It was one of those disassemble, check, find
nothing, reassemble, and now it works things.
LArry-
this has happened to me twice at least. Once (and subsequent times) it was attributed
to an oily film building up on the belly-mounted antenna. Remove all
exhaust scum with a rag (and WD-40 if needed) and see how she does.
Other time it was broken coax center conductor in a concealed antenna setup I made.
Paid $250 to Garmin to be told the box worked fine on their bench!
A caveat: last time I was in INT airspace I was tiold my transponder was inop,
despite the fact that I was seeing interrogation hits on the panel light... then
he told the next aircraft the same thing, "I only have you as a primary target."
I suspect INT's radar is squirrely and needs a kick in the klystron.
-Stormy
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Larry's transponder troubles |
| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
Thanks for the tips. I happened to clean the underside yesterday and the
antenna was fairly clean. I think in this case it was the reseating in
the tray that cured it. Prior to that it was dead...as in no lights or
other signs of life. It reminded me I need to send in the warrenty card
for my Apollo stuff!!
I have an appointment Monday for the xpdr/encoder/pitot/static check. I
guess if there are more serious problems they will be uncovered then.
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
SportAV8R(at)aol.com said:
>
> Last night the xpdr was dead. Flew a little without it, then came
> back to troubleshoot. It was one of those disassemble, check, find
> nothing, reassemble, and now it works things.
>
> LArry-
>
> this has happened to me twice at least. Once (and subsequent times) it
> was attributed to an oily film building up on the belly-mounted antenna.
> Remove all exhaust scum with a rag (and WD-40 if needed) and see how she
> does.
>
> Other time it was broken coax center conductor in a concealed antenna
> setup I made. Paid $250 to Garmin to be told the box worked fine on their
> bench!
>
> A caveat: last time I was in INT airspace I was tiold my transponder was
> inop, despite the fact that I was seeing interrogation hits on the panel
> light... then he told the next aircraft the same thing, "I only have you
> as a primary target." I suspect INT's radar is squirrely and needs a kick
> in the klystron.
>
> -Stormy
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Brake Fires and HYD Fluid |
Someone had a brake fire that started after an overheated caliper leaked
fluid on a hot disk. The fluid flashed and lit the resin in the fiberglass
wheel pant, as well as the tire sidewall. The brake worked fine, with only
slightly higher pedal pressure required even when on fire.
Why did the seal leak at some temperature well below a failure temperature
for the rest of the brake? And why did the fluid catch fire?
It turns out the Cleveland piston seal for the little 30-9 caliper is an
ordinary MS28775-218 nitrile o-ring. Nitrile's temperature rating is - 65F
to +275 F. Cleveland's tech manual specifies either Mil-H-5606 or
Mil-H-83282 as acceptable. Turns out that Mil-H-83282 was created because
the military was tired of setting it's airplanes on fire. Mil-H-5606 is the
standard red hydraulic fluid, it is a petroleum base, and turns out to have
a very low flash point. The Mil-H-83282 is also red, and compatible with
5606 fluid as well as seals created for 5606. However, it is a synthetic,
with much higher flash and burn points, and is self-extinguishing when
removed from the ignition source.
Note the flash points of the two fluids. Aeroshell 41 (Mil-H-5606) is 104
C, which is only 219 F. Aeroshell 31 (Mil-H-83282) is 237 C, or 458 F.
A flash point of 219 F means that when a Cleveland caliper seal fails at
something above 275, the fluid is already hot enough to light when it hits a
hot disk and vaporizes inside the pant.
Live and learn. I always assumed standard "mil-spec red brake fluid" was
something special. It's not.
It's just another one of those "always done it that way" things prevalent
with light airplanes.
I said all that to say this. Wayne Williams and I are trying to get some of
the good stuff, Aeroshell 31 (Mil-H-83282). The problem is we can only get
it in lots of 6 gallons.
If you are interested in getting some please let me know.
Steve Glasgow
704-362-0005
704-281-7884
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Brake Fires and HYD Fluid |
| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
I'll take some, a quart or two.
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
Steve Glasgow said:
>
>
>
> Someone had a brake fire that started after an overheated caliper leaked
> fluid on a hot disk. The fluid flashed and lit the resin in the
> fiberglass
> wheel pant, as well as the tire sidewall. The brake worked fine, with
> only
> slightly higher pedal pressure required even when on fire.
>
> Why did the seal leak at some temperature well below a failure temperature
> for the rest of the brake? And why did the fluid catch fire?
>
> It turns out the Cleveland piston seal for the little 30-9 caliper is an
> ordinary MS28775-218 nitrile o-ring. Nitrile's temperature rating is -
> 65F
> to +275 F. Cleveland's tech manual specifies either Mil-H-5606 or
> Mil-H-83282 as acceptable. Turns out that Mil-H-83282 was created because
> the military was tired of setting it's airplanes on fire. Mil-H-5606 is
> the
> standard red hydraulic fluid, it is a petroleum base, and turns out to
> have
> a very low flash point. The Mil-H-83282 is also red, and compatible with
> 5606 fluid as well as seals created for 5606. However, it is a synthetic,
> with much higher flash and burn points, and is self-extinguishing when
> removed from the ignition source.
>
> Note the flash points of the two fluids. Aeroshell 41 (Mil-H-5606) is 104
> C, which is only 219 F. Aeroshell 31 (Mil-H-83282) is 237 C, or 458 F.
>
> A flash point of 219 F means that when a Cleveland caliper seal fails at
> something above 275, the fluid is already hot enough to light when it hits
> a
> hot disk and vaporizes inside the pant.
>
> Live and learn. I always assumed standard "mil-spec red brake fluid" was
> something special. It's not.
> It's just another one of those "always done it that way" things prevalent
> with light airplanes.
>
>
> I said all that to say this. Wayne Williams and I are trying to get some
> of
> the good stuff, Aeroshell 31 (Mil-H-83282). The problem is we can only
> get
> it in lots of 6 gallons.
>
> If you are interested in getting some please let me know.
>
> Steve Glasgow
> 704-362-0005
> 704-281-7884
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Ed Anderson" <eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Brake Fires and HYD Fluid |
Steve,
I would be interested in a quart myself.
Ed Anderson
RV-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Brake Fires and HYD Fluid
>
> I'll take some, a quart or two.
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry(at)BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
>
> Steve Glasgow said:
> >
> >
> >
> > Someone had a brake fire that started after an overheated caliper leaked
> > fluid on a hot disk. The fluid flashed and lit the resin in the
> > fiberglass
> > wheel pant, as well as the tire sidewall. The brake worked fine, with
> > only
> > slightly higher pedal pressure required even when on fire.
> >
> > Why did the seal leak at some temperature well below a failure
temperature
> > for the rest of the brake? And why did the fluid catch fire?
> >
> > It turns out the Cleveland piston seal for the little 30-9 caliper is an
> > ordinary MS28775-218 nitrile o-ring. Nitrile's temperature rating is -
> > 65F
> > to +275 F. Cleveland's tech manual specifies either Mil-H-5606 or
> > Mil-H-83282 as acceptable. Turns out that Mil-H-83282 was created
because
> > the military was tired of setting it's airplanes on fire. Mil-H-5606 is
> > the
> > standard red hydraulic fluid, it is a petroleum base, and turns out to
> > have
> > a very low flash point. The Mil-H-83282 is also red, and compatible
with
> > 5606 fluid as well as seals created for 5606. However, it is a
synthetic,
> > with much higher flash and burn points, and is self-extinguishing when
> > removed from the ignition source.
> >
> > Note the flash points of the two fluids. Aeroshell 41 (Mil-H-5606) is
104
> > C, which is only 219 F. Aeroshell 31 (Mil-H-83282) is 237 C, or 458 F.
> >
> > A flash point of 219 F means that when a Cleveland caliper seal fails at
> > something above 275, the fluid is already hot enough to light when it
hits
> > a
> > hot disk and vaporizes inside the pant.
> >
> > Live and learn. I always assumed standard "mil-spec red brake fluid"
was
> > something special. It's not.
> > It's just another one of those "always done it that way" things
prevalent
> > with light airplanes.
> >
> >
> > I said all that to say this. Wayne Williams and I are trying to get
some
> > of
> > the good stuff, Aeroshell 31 (Mil-H-83282). The problem is we can only
> > get
> > it in lots of 6 gallons.
> >
> > If you are interested in getting some please let me know.
> >
> > Steve Glasgow
> > 704-362-0005
> > 704-281-7884
> >
> >
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "DAVID DAVENPORT" <ddavenport5(at)nc.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Stomy's Fall Fly-in: it's fish-or-cut-bait time!louisa |
gang
Stormy, I could make it either Sunday this week-end, or either day next
week-end. Count my vote as one of the dead or illegal alien ones.
David
N168DD
----- Original Message -----
From: <SportAV8R(at)aol.com>
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Stomy's Fall Fly-in: it's fish-or-cut-bait
time!louisa gang
>
> Stormy
> when ever you set it up.......we will try to be there......we are like
> neighbors!
>
> Bob: gotcha, buddy. Glad to hear you're "in" no matter what :-)
>
> -Stormy
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Sargentclt(at)cs.com |
| Subject: | Re: Larry's transponder troubles |
Larry if your woes continue there is a Tech in Charlotte who is very
reasonable. I bought my Garmin 320 from him. He is retired for the avionics
business and has all the necessary tools and knowledge to troubleshoot your
problem.
Tad S. 7A
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | TWOBARBEE(at)wmconnect.com |
| Subject: | Re: Brake Fires and HYD Fluid |
I'll take a quart Mike Barbee
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
| Subject: | Larry's transponder troubles |
Untested, but I think I solved it tonight. The little arm that holds the
xpdr to the tray was not right. Now it is. We'll find out tomorrow.
Thanks,
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sargentclt(at)cs.com [mailto:Sargentclt(at)cs.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 8:17 PM
> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Larry's transponder troubles
>
>
> Larry if your woes continue there is a Tech in
> Charlotte who is very reasonable. I bought my Garmin 320
> from him. He is retired for the avionics business and has
> all the necessary tools and knowledge to troubleshoot your problem.
>
> Tad S. 7A
>
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| From: | DWENSING(at)aol.com |
In a message dated 10/6/04 8:18:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Sargentclt(at)cs.com writes:
> ............. there is a Tech in Charlotte who is very
> reasonable. He is retired from the avionics
> business and has all the necessary tools and knowledge to troubleshoot your
> problem.
>
> Tad S. 7A
>
Tad,
Could you please give me his name? I need to have my Garman 327/encoder
checked as I assume the FAA will require proof that it has been done when they
visit soon.
Dale Ensing
RV6A
Aero Plantation
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
My FAA guy said I could do that after the inspection. I have a appt at
8A7 to do it Monday.
-
Larry Bowen, RV-8, 7.2 hours.
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
DWENSING(at)aol.com said:
>
> In a message dated 10/6/04 8:18:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> Sargentclt(at)cs.com writes:
>
>
>> ............. there is a Tech in Charlotte who is very
>> reasonable. He is retired from the avionics
>> business and has all the necessary tools and knowledge to troubleshoot
>> your
>> problem.
>>
>> Tad S. 7A
>>
> Tad,
> Could you please give me his name? I need to have my Garman 327/encoder
> checked as I assume the FAA will require proof that it has been done when
> they
> visit soon.
> Dale Ensing
> RV6A
> Aero Plantation
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Brake Fires and HYD Fluid |
In a message dated 10/6/04 8:25:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
TWOBARBEE(at)wmconnect.com writes:
I would take some also.
Len Leggette
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | SportAV8R(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Stomy's Fall Fly-in: latest developments |
I dislike indecisiveness, especially in myself. Yet decisions like this are never
easy... I figure if we hold the fly-in as planned Saturday, we might have
about 4 planes show up (maybe). The next weekend we might have a different 4
show up. I'm almost the only respondent who said he could make it either weekend
:-)
Here're the facts:
The guy who rents our hayfields just sprinkled turkey litter all over the farm,
and it's going to have a pungent smell until the next rain, which is not for
awhile. =:O
The leaves have just barely begun to show any fall color here. They will peak
in about 2 more weeks.
I was really getting impatient to have a get-together this weekend, but I'm up
for it either time.
--- The only solutions seem to be to have no fly-in at all, or have two on successive
weekends.
Let's do the Solomon thing and "cut the baby in half," thus: the real Fall Fly-In
will be NEXT Saturday, October 16th. We will be hangin' out here THIS Saturday,
the 9th, with the welcome mat out for anyone who wants to drop in for a
real informal time, including some victuals. This way I (hopefully) still get
to visit with Leggs, whereas maybe Smoozer and some of the Ohio Valley Boys can
make it the following Saturday. My family may shoot me for doing this twice
in a row, but - hey, I love airplanes, airplane people, and socials :-)
So there it is; you are ALL invited BOTH times, and I will quit worrying about
who can come when. Like the guy says, we'll keep the light on for ya. No skin
off my nose if nobody shows either weekend; I _love_ shrimp on the grill; more
for me :-)
Let's say 2 pm both days, finishing by 5:30. Unicom will be 122.85 and navigational
data is listed on AirNav.com under "12VA."
-Stormy
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| Subject: | Fwd: October Meeting EAA 108 |
In a message dated 10/8/04 12:35:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
gbray(at)netmcr.com writes:
Hello everyone ,
Our October meeting was originally scheduled for
the fly-in at Pace Field in Ridgeway Va. tomorrow 10/9. I am sorry to report
that, understandably, due to the circumstances regarding Tommy passing away,
the fly-in / barbeque has been cancelled. Therefore, I see no other option than
to cancel our October meeting altogether.
We will plan to meet back at Shiloh in November.
Thank You
Greg Bray
From: "Greg & Vicky Bray" <gbray(at)netmcr.com>
"Ray & Lorraine Judd" ,
"Ray Sharp" ,
"Ritchie & Mechelle Jones" ,
"Roger Dodson" ,
"Roger Jennings" ,
"Stephen Austin" ,
"Stephen Wooten" ,
"Terry Gallion" ,
"Thomas C Freeman" ,
"Tim Rothrock" ,
"Tim Stauffer" ,
"Tommy Redmon" ,
"Tony Morgan" ,
"Tracy Gough" ,
"Walter Wiley" ,
"Wilton Little" , "Greg Bray" ,
"Shirley Wheeler" ,
"Morton Lester"
Subject: October Meeting
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 12:34:53 -0400
Hello everyone ,
Our October meeting was originally scheduled for the fly-in
at Pace Field in Ridgeway Va. tomorrow 10/9. I am sorry to report that,
understandably, due to the circumstances regarding Tommy passing away,=20the fly-in
/ barbeque has been cancelled. Therefore, I see no other option than to
cancel our October meeting altogether.
We will plan to meet back at Shiloh in November.
=20
Thank You
=20
Greg Bray
Hello everyone ,
Our October meeting was originally scheduled for the fly-in at Pace Field in
Ridgeway Va. tomorrow 10/9. I am sorry to report that, understandably, due to
the circumstances regarding Tommy passing away, the fly-in / barbeque has been
cancelled. Therefore, I see no other option than to cancel our October meeting
altogether.
We
will plan to meet back at Shiloh in November.
Thank You
Greg Bray
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| From: | N136CH(at)webtv.net (Charlie Hall) |
I Think the msg from Greg (Chapter 8) was in error. I was up there
several times this week and they were preparing. Ben Pace asked me to
spread the word. They won't begin serving until 2PM.
Runway 18-36 is in good shape and common traffic frequency is 122.9.
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| From: | "John Ciambrone" <wopwopwop(at)verizon.net> |
| Subject: | Soft feild handling question for RV-6A |
Is there any problems landing a RV-6A, or traildragger for that matter, on
turf?
I have an opportunity to buy a RV-6A with all major subcomponent
construction complete, i.e., the wings are ready for mounting, ailerons and
flaps are complete. It still needs interior, instrument panel and FWF. It
would be based out central PA on a 3000 foot grass strip. It's not the
roughest field I've ever landed on but it does have some bumps.
I've been told that the RV crowd in PA doesn't like the feild because of
problems with wheel pants getting torn off. Can yins (that PA talk - means
y'all) confirm or deny this vicious rumor?
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| From: | "Ed Anderson" <eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Soft feild handling question for RV-6A |
John,
It may depend on which model wheel pants the aircraft has. The older
RV-6s had wheel pants that provided a bit more clearance that the newer
"Pressure Recovery" types. I have operated my RV-6a with the older wheel
pants out of some fairly rough grass/dirt strips with no problem (thus far).
Ed
Ed Anderson
RV-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Ciambrone" <wopwopwop(at)verizon.net>
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Soft feild handling question for RV-6A
>
> Is there any problems landing a RV-6A, or traildragger for that matter, on
> turf?
>
> I have an opportunity to buy a RV-6A with all major subcomponent
> construction complete, i.e., the wings are ready for mounting, ailerons
and
> flaps are complete. It still needs interior, instrument panel and FWF.
It
> would be based out central PA on a 3000 foot grass strip. It's not the
> roughest field I've ever landed on but it does have some bumps.
>
> I've been told that the RV crowd in PA doesn't like the feild because of
> problems with wheel pants getting torn off. Can yins (that PA talk - means
> y'all) confirm or deny this vicious rumor?
>
>
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| From: | SportAV8R(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Soft feild handling question for RV-6A |
>>Is there any problems landing a RV-6A, or traildragger for that matter, on
turf?<>It
would be based out central PA on a 3000 foot grass strip. It's not the
roughest field I've ever landed on but it does have some bumps.
I've been told that the RV crowd in PA doesn't like the feild because of
problems with wheel pants getting torn off. <<
Well, that would prejudice me against that field somewhat, too! The only times
I've sustained wheelpant damage on the RV have been in chuck-holes, ditches and
other unmarked hazards, and on a rough runway that wasn't even seeded yet.
I don't know what I was thinking that day going in there, but there was peer
pressure being applied... Oh, yeah, there was the time I flew in too-deep snow
off my own strip, and the time I brought it in for touchdown with a flat nosewheel
tire that I was unaware of. In all, it's hard to blame a strip that's
only moderately bumpy for damage. For the mnost part, it's the pilot's smoothness,
not the sod's, that influences the outcome.
-Stormy
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| Subject: | Re: Soft feild handling question for RV-6A |
In a message dated 10/9/04 1:06:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
wopwopwop(at)verizon.net writes:
Is there any problems landing a RV-6A, or traildragger for that matter, on
turf?
I have an opportunity to buy a RV-6A with all major subcomponent
construction complete, i.e., the wings are ready for mounting, ailerons and
flaps are complete. It still needs interior, instrument panel and FWF. It
would be based out central PA on a 3000 foot grass strip. It's not the
roughest field I've ever landed on but it does have some bumps.
I've been told that the RV crowd in PA doesn't like the feild because of
problems with wheel pants getting torn off. Can yins (that PA talk - means
y'all) confirm or deny this vicious rumor?
We have several guys that live on grass strips that can answer better than
me ... but I have landed my 8A on grass strips on many ocassions. I always
baby my nose gear whether it is on pavement or grass ... thats the way Mike
Seager taught me. I lift the nose as soon as it will come up then hold it off
the runway until the plane wants to fly off ... kinda like a soft field
takeoff except I don't force the plane off the ground early ...
On landing I hold the nose off the ground as long as it will stay off. I
find the most harsh time for the fairings is on rollout if you are going too
fast and also taxiing too fast.
I am sure Stormy, Wayne8, and some of the other guys that live on grass
strips will chime in !!
Len Leggette, RV-8A
Greensboro, N.C. N910LL
279 hrs
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| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
Any reports from events at Stormy's or Pace today? I was out a little bit,
but went to HKY for some family affairs. I did some poor landings at EXX on
the way back.....
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
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| From: | SportAV8R(at)aol.com |
Any reports from events at Stormy's or Pace today? I was out a little bit,
but went to HKY for some family affairs. I did some poor landings at EXX on
the way back.....
-
Larry Bowen
Good for you, Larry. It's important to stay current in all flight maneuvers, so
practicing some poor landings every now and then makes good sense; it's easy
to forget how to make poor ones after you get good ;-)
I showed up for my fly-in today, which is also good, because no one else did.
I ate all the food myself and probably gained 10 pounds. I thought about going
to Pace, but would have felt terrible if someone had shown up at my place while
I was away, so I stayed pretty much local in my aerial meanderings today.
-Stormy
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| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
Sorry it was a bust. Larry Small called me today asking about your place
and next weekend. If he has an open seat, I may fill it.
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: SportAV8R(at)aol.com [mailto:SportAV8R(at)aol.com]
> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 9:54 PM
> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Sat.
>
>
> Any reports from events at Stormy's or Pace today? I was out
> a little bit, but went to HKY for some family affairs. I did
> some poor landings at EXX on the way back.....
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
>
> Good for you, Larry. It's important to stay current in all
> flight maneuvers, so practicing some poor landings every now
> and then makes good sense; it's easy to forget how to make
> poor ones after you get good ;-)
>
> I showed up for my fly-in today, which is also good, because
> no one else did. I ate all the food myself and probably
> gained 10 pounds. I thought about going to Pace, but would
> have felt terrible if someone had shown up at my place while
> I was away, so I stayed pretty much local in my aerial
> meanderings today.
>
> -Stormy
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| From: | "Richard Sipp" <rsipp(at)earthlink.net> |
, ,
,
| Subject: | [RV10] 4th Annual Coastal Georgia Fall Fly In |
From: "Richard Sipp" <rsipp(at)earthlink.net>
> Greetings:
>
> Mark your flying schedule for Saturday October 16. That's the date for
the
> 4th annual Coastal Georgia Fall Fly In.
>
> Place: Eagle Neck Airpark 1GA0 located on the Georgia coastline half way
> between Savannah and St. Simons Island.
>
> Barbeque is served around noon. Eagle Neck is home to 3 completed RVs and
3
> more under construction including a 10. Any type aircraft welcome. Make
a
> weekend of it and tour Savannah, book some great off shore fishing or
tidal
> marsh canoeing.
>
> Please RSVP to the sender for more information, airport briefing etc.
>
> Dick Sipp
> RV4 250DS
> RV10 110DV #65
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| From: | N136CH(at)webtv.net (Charlie Hall) |
I am on a tether like Larry so I went to Pace. There was about 40
airplanes there including 3 RVs, my 4, Jerome Tuttle's 4, and Dana
Breda's 6, not quite as many airplanes as usual. The food was great.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
Anything tricky about landing at Pace? Dana told me about the deer.
Anything else? Pretty smooth?
I couldn't make it Saturday, but today would have been a good day to go for
some "cheap" fuel. Winds right down the runway.....
-
Larry Bowen, RV-8, 11.5 hrs.
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charlie Hall [mailto:N136CH(at)webtv.net]
> Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 12:33 PM
> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Pace
>
> (Charlie Hall)
>
> I am on a tether like Larry so I went to Pace. There was
> about 40 airplanes there including 3 RVs, my 4, Jerome
> Tuttle's 4, and Dana Breda's 6, not quite as many airplanes
> as usual. The food was great.
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| From: | Dana Breda <dbreda(at)earthlink.net> |
Pace is really nice... wide, 3000' long. It was very a smooth landing
on the north end and just a bit bumpy taking off from the south end. I
have the standard wheelpants and had no problems. I was there maybe 7-8
years ago and thought I was going to lose the pants on takeoff, but it's
great now. Didn't see any deer, but somebody said there were a bunch of
turkeys on the runway earlier in the day (and I don't think he meant the
pilots... :>))
Dana
Larry Bowen wrote:
>
>Anything tricky about landing at Pace? Dana told me about the deer.
>Anything else? Pretty smooth?
>
>I couldn't make it Saturday, but today would have been a good day to go for
>some "cheap" fuel. Winds right down the runway.....
>
>-
>Larry Bowen, RV-8, 11.5 hrs.
>Larry(at)BowenAero.com
>http://BowenAero.com
>
>
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Charlie Hall [mailto:N136CH(at)webtv.net]
>>Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 12:33 PM
>>To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
>>Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Pace
>>
>>(Charlie Hall)
>>
>>I am on a tether like Larry so I went to Pace. There was
>>about 40 airplanes there including 3 RVs, my 4, Jerome
>>Tuttle's 4, and Dana Breda's 6, not quite as many airplanes
>>as usual. The food was great.
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| From: | SportAV8R(at)aol.com |
Sorry it was a bust. Larry Small called me today asking about your place
and next weekend. If he has an open seat, I may fill it.
-
Larry Bowen
No problem, Larry. All in all, I had a great weekend. Flew 4 young eagles today
in severe clear with light turbulence. Perfect day for aviation. Next weekend,
the foliage will be better, the odor around here lessened, and I will be
more prepared for full-blown hospitality. I think scheduling it for the late
afternoon is a bit weird, though. Maybe we'd attract more folk with a lunchtime
start, don't you think?? Days are too short now to design the barbecue as
a "supper."
Tried out my new wingtip antenna today, and the SWR bandwidth seems unbelievably
wide. Up in the air measurements were postponed due to a glitch in the antenna
analyzer not wanting to run off its internal batteries. A work-around was
soldered up tonight on at the test bench, and I will be checking in flight SWR
next time I'm up (with a flight engineer in the right seat.)
-Stormy
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| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
I agree earlier is better this time of year.
-
Larry Bowen, RV-8 @ 8A7, 11.5 Hrs.
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: SportAV8R(at)aol.com [mailto:SportAV8R(at)aol.com]
> Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 11:03 PM
> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Sat.
>
>
>
> -->
>
> Sorry it was a bust. Larry Small called me today asking
> about your place and next weekend. If he has an open seat, I
> may fill it.
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
>
> No problem, Larry. All in all, I had a great weekend. Flew
> 4 young eagles today in severe clear with light turbulence.
> Perfect day for aviation. Next weekend, the foliage will be
> better, the odor around here lessened, and I will be more
> prepared for full-blown hospitality. I think scheduling it
> for the late afternoon is a bit weird, though. Maybe we'd
> attract more folk with a lunchtime start, don't you think??
> Days are too short now to design the barbecue as a "supper."
>
> Tried out my new wingtip antenna today, and the SWR bandwidth
> seems unbelievably wide. Up in the air measurements were
> postponed due to a glitch in the antenna analyzer not wanting
> to run off its internal batteries. A work-around was
> soldered up tonight on at the test bench, and I will be
> checking in flight SWR next time I'm up (with a flight
> engineer in the right seat.)
>
> -Stormy
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| From: | "BOB martin" <libertyva(at)msn.com> |
| Subject: | Saturday Young Eagles? |
Stormy,
Sorry we didn't show as well......Larry took his -6 and went to Hickory to
visit a friend, meanwhile he left "this" friend without wings.......:-(
we did repair the fuel tank today and will now let the Proseal dry for 7
days.......
Question?..young eagles.......insurance?
we have been looking into our coverage while taking pax up for
rides......which we love to do! but see that Experimentals can only get
100,000 coverage per person.
I looked at the EAA young eagles program and they offer a 1,000,000. policy
if you are a member and have them sign a wavier before going up........
We realize that most people we take up done know the difference between a RV
and a Cessna...and are starting to wonder if it is worth the risk.....
Any thoughts?
Bob .......Louisa Gang
>From: SportAV8R(at)aol.com
>Reply-To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
>To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
>Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Sat.
>Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 23:03:17 -0400
>
>
>Sorry it was a bust. Larry Small called me today asking about your place
>and next weekend. If he has an open seat, I may fill it.
>
>-
>Larry Bowen
>
>No problem, Larry. All in all, I had a great weekend. Flew 4 young eagles
>today in severe clear with light turbulence. Perfect day for aviation.
>Next weekend, the foliage will be better, the odor around here lessened,
>and I will be more prepared for full-blown hospitality. I think scheduling
>it for the late afternoon is a bit weird, though. Maybe we'd attract more
>folk with a lunchtime start, don't you think?? Days are too short now to
>design the barbecue as a "supper."
>
>Tried out my new wingtip antenna today, and the SWR bandwidth seems
>unbelievably wide. Up in the air measurements were postponed due to a
>glitch in the antenna analyzer not wanting to run off its internal
>batteries. A work-around was soldered up tonight on at the test bench, and
>I will be checking in flight SWR next time I'm up (with a flight engineer
>in the right seat.)
>
>-Stormy
>
>
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| From: | SnakedoctorRV6(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Soft feild handling question for RV-6A |
I fly my 6 off of a grass field for the last 19 months with no trouble,and
put about 400 hrs on it since then.So i don,t think you will have any problems.
Ben
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In a message dated 10/10/2004 8:45:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Larry(at)bowenaero.com writes:
Larry Bowen, RV-8, 11.5 hrs.
Look at this guys .... a star is born ... 11.5 hours now !!! Way to go Larry
... you are just about ready for a long cross country RV flight !!!
Len
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| From: | SportAV8R(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Saturday Young Eagles? |
You raise some valid points, Bob.
The YE program is still in effect as far as I know. However, the most recent rides
I gave were to college students, no parents around, without any forms signed,
and even these may be out of bounds for YE eligibility by virtue of their
age. There does come a time where you have to decide not to let "reality" impede
too much on the freedom you wish you had to live and fly as a free man ;-)
and at that point I just throw caution to the wind and take folks up for their
long-awaited plane ride. Their smiles make it seem worthwhile (and the squeals
from the girls during the rolls :-)
I had an eight year old wink at me in church yesterday, and I know it's because
I took her for a plane ride last week; her parents say she hasn't stopped talking
about it since! I know there are legions of John Edwardses out there just
waiting for the next ambulance to chase, but you can't let those @$$holes run
your life (well, you can, but that's a conscious choice, and everyone will have
their own comfort level in that area.)
In short, I'm doing what I want, as reasonably as seems right, and hoping I continue
to get away with it, liability-wise. I try never to cut corners with anything
safety-related. At this stage, general aviation needs all the allies it
can get, and the more people we introduce to our passtime, the better. It's
alot like taking a hoplophobe to the shooting range; prejudices can be overcome
in one fun afternoon. I continue to believe the risks are worth the return.
-Stormy
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| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
True. The radius of this 50 mile circle can be covered very quickly!
On the downside, all this fuel is expensive!
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lenleg(at)aol.com [mailto:Lenleg(at)aol.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 8:48 AM
> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Pace
>
>
> In a message dated 10/10/2004 8:45:32 PM Eastern Daylight
> Time, Larry(at)bowenaero.com writes:
> Larry Bowen, RV-8, 11.5 hrs.
> Look at this guys .... a star is born ... 11.5 hours now !!!
> Way to go Larry ... you are just about ready for a long cross
> country RV flight !!!
>
> Len
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| Subject: | Re: Saturday Young Eagles? |
In a message dated 10/11/2004 9:25:40 AM Eastern Standard Time,
SportAV8R(at)aol.com writes:
> The YE program is still in effect as far as I know. However, the most
> recent rides I gave were to college students, no parents around, without any
> forms signed, and even these may be out of bounds for YE eligibility by virtue
of
> their age. There does come a time where you have to decide not to let
> "reality" impede too much on the freedom you wish you had to live and fly as
a
> free man ;-) and at that point I just throw caution to the wind and take folks
> up for their long-awaited plane ride. Their smiles make it seem worthwhile
> (and the squeals from the girls during the rolls :-)
>
> I had an eight year old wink at me in church yesterday, and I know it's
> because I took her for a plane ride last week; her parents say she hasn't stopped
> talking about it since! I know there are legions of John Edwardses out
> there just waiting for the next ambulance to chase, but you can't let those
> @$$holes run your life (well, you can, but that's a conscious choice, and everyone
> will have their own comfort level in that area.)
>
> In short, I'm doing what I want, as reasonably as seems right, and hoping I
> continue to get away with it, liability-wise. I try never to cut corners
> with anything safety-related. At this stage, general aviation needs all the
> allies it can get, and the more people we introduce to our passtime, the better.
> It's alot like taking a hoplophobe to the shooting range; prejudices can be
> overcome in one fun afternoon. I continue to believe the risks are worth
> the return.
>
>
> -Stormy
>
One of the best responses to the question I have ever read ... thank you
Stormy !!
Len
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| From: | "BOB martin" <libertyva(at)msn.com> |
Len, Stormy and guys,
Great response Stormy........
The YE program is still in effect and growing. The age is 7 to 17 . the EAA
has the forms they will send you for free, you just have to email and ask
for some....I ordered 5 just to get some and see what they looked like. It
is a release that must be signed by a guardian. as well the name and
address for the files at EAA for the offical head counts.
We agree with your logic.....or at least I do. I don't want to be
"insurance poor" or let it affect the reason I fly....I truly believe half
the fun of flying is introducing it to non flyers as evident by the number
of times I fly solo to just fly.....hardly any! of course now I love to fly
in pairs and that even tops giving rides, but I digress from the
subject.....
Our situation is a little different as Tripp and I are partners and anything
one does, the other will be dragged into by the ownership thing.......so we
are looking at the whole thing with that in mind.
One solution was to only give rides to family and Young Eagles in the RV
and rent a spam can for all others. But that brings up the RV guys and
prospective builders and such.....
We would like to make a release that we could get people outside the family
and young eagles read and sign. One that would tell them what they are
about to do.....relating to the Expermental Catagory, etc...and that they
agree to accept the 100,000 limit for .........well lets hope nothing, but
it would make them think as well........I doubt anything we write up would
ever stand up in court, but it would raise awareness levels.
Any ideas or information along this line would be appreaciated.
This is an important topic, not to be dwelled on but brought up now and then
to help us make the right decisions from time to time........
Bob Martin, Louisa County Gang
>
>SportAV8R(at)aol.com writes:
>
> > The YE program is still in effect as far as I know. However, the most
> > recent rides I gave were to college students, no parents around, without
>any
> > forms signed, and even these may be out of bounds for YE eligibility by
>virtue of
> > their age. There does come a time where you have to decide not to let
> > "reality" impede too much on the freedom you wish you had to live and
>fly as a
> > free man ;-) and at that point I just throw caution to the wind and take
>folks
> > up for their long-awaited plane ride. Their smiles make it seem
>worthwhile
> > (and the squeals from the girls during the rolls :-)
> >
> > I had an eight year old wink at me in church yesterday, and I know it's
> > because I took her for a plane ride last week; her parents say she
>hasn't stopped
> > talking about it since! I know there are legions of John Edwardses out
> > there just waiting for the next ambulance to chase, but you can't let
>those
> > @$$holes run your life (well, you can, but that's a conscious choice,
>and everyone
> > will have their own comfort level in that area.)
> >
> > In short, I'm doing what I want, as reasonably as seems right, and
>hoping I
> > continue to get away with it, liability-wise. I try never to cut
>corners
> > with anything safety-related. At this stage, general aviation needs all
>the
> > allies it can get, and the more people we introduce to our passtime, the
>better.
> > It's alot like taking a hoplophobe to the shooting range; prejudices
>can be
> > overcome in one fun afternoon. I continue to believe the risks are
>worth
> > the return.
> >
> >
> > -Stormy
> >
>
>One of the best responses to the question I have ever read ... thank you
>Stormy !!
>
>Len
>
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| Subject: | MP Problems Solved |
The great mystery of my "slow" plane has been solved thanks to all on the
different RV list. It seems I was getting a very high MP reading everytime I
compared with someone else .... my Rky Mtn uMonitor was reading high ... not
their fault but mine !!!
I did not calibrate the unit correctly .... I was reading 4" too high !!!
Or to put another way I was flying 4" lower setting than everyone else ...
that is giving up a lot of MP !!
But on the good side ... I have discovered additional speed with no mods
!!!!
Len Leggette, RV-8A
Greensboro, N.C. N910LL
280 hrs
AND GETTING FASTER !!!!!
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| Subject: | Re: MP Problems Solved |
| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
Congrats on the recent installation of your supercharger!!
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
Lenleg(at)aol.com said:
>
> The great mystery of my "slow" plane has been solved thanks to all on the
> different RV list. It seems I was getting a very high MP reading
> everytime I
> compared with someone else .... my Rky Mtn uMonitor was reading high ...
> not
> their fault but mine !!!
>
> I did not calibrate the unit correctly .... I was reading 4" too high !!!
> Or to put another way I was flying 4" lower setting than everyone else
> ...
> that is giving up a lot of MP !!
>
> But on the good side ... I have discovered additional speed with no mods
> !!!!
>
> Len Leggette, RV-8A
> Greensboro, N.C. N910LL
> 280 hrs
>
>
> AND GETTING FASTER !!!!!
>
>
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| From: | "Wayne Williams" <rwayne(at)gamewood.net> |
| Subject: | MP Problems Solved |
Great-- now I won't be able to keep up with you or Larry!
Wayne
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of
Lenleg(at)aol.com
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: MP Problems Solved
The great mystery of my "slow" plane has been solved thanks to all on the
different RV list. It seems I was getting a very high MP reading everytime
I
compared with someone else .... my Rky Mtn uMonitor was reading high ... not
their fault but mine !!!
September 16, 2004 - October 12, 2004
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