RVSouthEast-Archive.digest.vol-ae
November 17, 2004 - December 15, 2004
>> into Ft Knox. Charlie Heathco
>
>
> Charlie:
>
> Can the filter be recharged ... K&N offers a recharge kit ... or is the
> filter just too far gone.
>
> Len Leggette, RV-8A
> Greensboro, N.C. N910LL
> 286 hrs
>
>
>
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| From: | "Charles Heathco" <cheathco(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: SERV Patch Count |
Hey Len, fill me on on these patches, Im new kid on the block, Charlie
----- Original Message -----
From: <Lenleg(at)aol.com>
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: SERV Patch Count
>
> SERV:
>
> So far we have a total of 42 patches to order:
>
> Ed Anderson - 4
> Roy Berrier - 4
> Larry Bowen - 4
> Dana Breda - 2
> John Clark - 2
> Paul Franzon - 2
> Terry Gardner - 4
> Steve Glasgow - 2
> Patty Hamilton - 4
> Paul LeDoux - 4
> Len Leggette - 4
> Mike Munn - 2
> Ron Schreck - 2
> Wayne8A Williams - 2
>
> They get cheaper the more we order !!! I will give it a few more days
> and
> then place the order !
>
> Len Leggette, RV-8A
> Greensboro, N.C. N910LL
> 286 hrs
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: RV6-List: O-320 airbox specifically the air |
filter.
In a message dated 11/17/2004 8:30:26 PM Eastern Standard Time,
cheathco(at)comcast.net writes:
Len, I thought I had a replacement, but wouldnt quite do it, I took it back
and got a recharge kit. The filter was actually in good shape. I got it back
together and went to start it up to check things after oil change, and Lo, I
had left the master on couple days. It wouldnt turn over but was not
completly dead due to having sep swt for every thing. I hooked up to car and
charged it up and it started ok. I put on the Alternator filter and it didnt
make any diff on radio noise. Charlie
Wish I could be some help on the radio noise but I can promise you ... you
don't want me doing your electrical work !!!
Len
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| Subject: | Re: SERV Patch Count |
In a message dated 11/17/2004 8:40:10 PM Eastern Standard Time,
cheathco(at)comcast.net writes:
Hey Len, fill me on on these patches, Im new kid on the block, Charlie
We had some shirts and caps produced recently for all members that wanted
them. The logo is really good looking ... designed by Wayne8 Williams.
Some of us have flight suits, etc and thought the patches would look good
.... so having them produced.
You can go to:
_http://bowenaero.com/copper/displayimage.php?album=38&pos=34_ (http://bowenaero.com/copper/displayimage.php?album=38&pos=34)
to see the patch.
Sign up for as many as you would like !!!
Len
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| From: | "BOB martin" <libertyva(at)msn.com> |
| Subject: | SERV Patch Count |
Len,
Put the Louisa Gang down for 5 patches
maybe one day we will fly together again.........
right now it is work work work.....
Bob Martin, Louisa County........
>From: Lenleg(at)aol.com
>Reply-To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
>To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
>Subject: RVSouthEast-List: SERV Patch Count
>Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 14:11:43 EST
>
>
>SERV:
>
>So far we have a total of 42 patches to order:
>
>Ed Anderson - 4
>Roy Berrier - 4
>Larry Bowen - 4
>Dana Breda - 2
>John Clark - 2
>Paul Franzon - 2
>Terry Gardner - 4
>Steve Glasgow - 2
>Patty Hamilton - 4
>Paul LeDoux - 4
>Len Leggette - 4
>Mike Munn - 2
>Ron Schreck - 2
>Wayne8A Williams - 2
>
>They get cheaper the more we order !!! I will give it a few more days and
>then place the order !
>
>Len Leggette, RV-8A
>Greensboro, N.C. N910LL
>286 hrs
>
>
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SERV:
What do you think of a big Christmas get together? We could make it pot
luck ... everybody pitch in to bring something .
Ideas on where to meet?
1. Winston Salem (INT) lots of parking ... probably get a room to meet in
2. Shiloh - same
3. Danville, Va. - same
Anymore thoughts or ideas ?????
Len Leggette, RV-8A
Greensboro, N.C. N910LL
286 hrs
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| Subject: | Re: SERV Patch Count |
Len...Put me down for four patches. Thanks...W8
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| Subject: | Re: Christmas Party |
| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
I'm all for it. Potluck or restaurant-near-airport.....
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
Lenleg(at)aol.com said:
>
> SERV:
>
> What do you think of a big Christmas get together? We could make it pot
> luck ... everybody pitch in to bring something .
>
> Ideas on where to meet?
>
> 1. Winston Salem (INT) lots of parking ... probably get a room to meet
> in
>
> 2. Shiloh - same
>
> 3. Danville, Va. - same
>
> Anymore thoughts or ideas ?????
>
> Len Leggette, RV-8A
> Greensboro, N.C. N910LL
> 286 hrs
>
>
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I'll take two. A line from "Silverado" comes to mind...
BTW, I got my RV-8 about two weeks ago, but it is still in
Beckley WV due to a death in the family and some electrical
trouble that took awhile to find. I flew it for about 4
hours last weekend locally, though, and it flies like a
dream.
After changing the battery (which was fried when it hit the
runway at BKW), the alternator, and the voltage regulator,
it would (still) give either high voltage, no voltage, or
perfect voltage, all at random intermittent times. Finally
turned out to be what the mechanic said was a field wire
connection that hadn't been crimped properly and wasn't
accessible without moving some aluminum out of the way.
Anyway, if all goes well I will go get it Friday and bring
it to Salisbury at least temporarily. Not sure where it's
final base will be. Hope to see you all soon.
Scott Keadle
N844RF
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In a message dated 11/18/04 9:17:38 AM Eastern Standard Time,
scott(at)keadle.com writes:
BTW, I got my RV-8 about two weeks ago, but it is still in
Beckley WV due to a death in the family and some electrical
trouble that took awhile to find. I flew it for about 4
hours last weekend locally, though, and it flies like a
dream.
Congrats Scott ... SERV will be a lot more fun for you now !!! I guess we
need to put a surfing event on the calendar !!!
Len Leggette, RV-8A
Greensboro, N.C. N910LL
286 hrs
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| From: | SportAV8R(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Christmas Party |
If the winds are not calm, will you come?
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| From: | bill crothers <bill28104(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Christmas Party |
Wadesboro-
--- Lenleg(at)aol.com wrote:
> Lenleg(at)aol.com
>
> SERV:
>
> What do you think of a big Christmas get together?
> We could make it pot
> luck ... everybody pitch in to bring something .
>
> Ideas on where to meet?
>
> 1. Winston Salem (INT) lots of parking ... probably
> get a room to meet in
>
> 2. Shiloh - same
>
> 3. Danville, Va. - same
>
> Anymore thoughts or ideas ?????
>
> Len Leggette, RV-8A
> Greensboro, N.C. N910LL
> 286 hrs
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| Subject: | Re: Christmas Party |
In a message dated 11/18/04 9:43:10 AM Eastern Standard Time,
SportAV8R(at)aol.com writes:
If the winds are not calm, will you come?
According to definitionof the word "are" is ??????
Len
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| Subject: | Re: Christmas Party |
In a message dated 11/18/04 10:01:05 AM Eastern Standard Time,
bill28104(at)yahoo.com writes:
Wadesboro-
I like the idea of Wadesboro too ... wonderful airport ... looooong runway
....
Len
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| From: | DWENSING(at)aol.com |
Len,
I would like two patches.
Dale Ensing
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| From: | eregensburg(at)triad.rr.com |
| Subject: | Re: Christmas Party |
I think it would be fun! Will you allow a FORMER RV OWNER to come ?
Ed
"Ditch"
----- Original Message -----
From: Lenleg(at)aol.com
Date: Thursday, November 18, 2004 8:08 am
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Christmas Party
>
> SERV:
>
> What do you think of a big Christmas get together? We could make
> it pot
> luck ... everybody pitch in to bring something .
>
> Ideas on where to meet?
>
> 1. Winston Salem (INT) lots of parking ... probably get a room to
> meet in
>
> 2. Shiloh - same
>
> 3. Danville, Va. - same
>
> Anymore thoughts or ideas ?????
>
> Len Leggette, RV-8A
> Greensboro, N.C. N910LL
> 286 hrs
>
>
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| From: | "Paul D. Franzon" <paulf(at)ncsu.edu> |
Yes, great idea. I have a slight preference towards a restaurant.
Paul D. Franzon
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
eregensburg(at)triad.rr.com
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Christmas Party
I think it would be fun! Will you allow a FORMER RV OWNER to come ?
Ed
"Ditch"
----- Original Message -----
From: Lenleg(at)aol.com
Date: Thursday, November 18, 2004 8:08 am
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Christmas Party
>
> SERV:
>
> What do you think of a big Christmas get together? We could make
> it pot
> luck ... everybody pitch in to bring something .
>
> Ideas on where to meet?
>
> 1. Winston Salem (INT) lots of parking ... probably get a room to
> meet in
>
> 2. Shiloh - same
>
> 3. Danville, Va. - same
>
> Anymore thoughts or ideas ?????
>
> Len Leggette, RV-8A
> Greensboro, N.C. N910LL
> 286 hrs
>
>
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| From: | "David Davenport" <ddavenport5(at)nc.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Christmas Party |
Excellent idea, Len. Take your pick on locations, and Robin & I will try to
be there.
David Davenport
----- Original Message -----
From: <Lenleg(at)aol.com>
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Christmas Party
>
> SERV:
>
> What do you think of a big Christmas get together? We could make it pot
> luck ... everybody pitch in to bring something .
>
> Ideas on where to meet?
>
> 1. Winston Salem (INT) lots of parking ... probably get a room to meet
> in
>
> 2. Shiloh - same
>
> 3. Danville, Va. - same
>
> Anymore thoughts or ideas ?????
>
> Len Leggette, RV-8A
> Greensboro, N.C. N910LL
> 286 hrs
>
>
>
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| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
YES.
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: SportAV8R(at)aol.com [mailto:SportAV8R(at)aol.com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 9:42 AM
> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Christmas Party
>
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> If the winds are not calm, will you come?
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SERV:
I will be placing the order for the patches tomorrow. I am ordering some
extra so it is not too late to get your order in ...we may can even get
something posted on the website about them.
I will make a post as soon as they come in !!
Len Leggette, RV-8A
Greensboro, NC N910LL
286 hrs
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| From: | "Terrence Gardner" <ttandt(at)mindspring.com> |
Put me down for 4
T. Gardner
> [Original Message]
> From: <Lenleg(at)aol.com>
> To:
> Date: 11/18/2004 8:19:30 PM
> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: SERV Patches
>
>
> SERV:
>
> I will be placing the order for the patches tomorrow. I am ordering
some
> extra so it is not too late to get your order in ...we may can even get
> something posted on the website about them.
>
> I will make a post as soon as they come in !!
>
> Len Leggette, RV-8A
> Greensboro, NC N910LL
> 286 hrs
>
>
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| From: | "Curtis Hinkley" <N815RV(at)adelphia.net> |
Hi Len,
Did you put me down for 2?
Curtis Hinkey
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of
Lenleg(at)aol.com
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: SERV Patches
SERV:
I will be placing the order for the patches tomorrow. I am ordering some
extra so it is not too late to get your order in ...we may can even get
something posted on the website about them.
I will make a post as soon as they come in !!
Len Leggette, RV-8A
Greensboro, NC N910LL
286 hrs
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| From: | N8391Mike(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: SERV Patch Count |
Len .
I like to get 4 patches.Thanks
Andre M Robert.
RV6 At Shiloh.
38 hrs
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| From: | "Charles Heathco" <cheathco(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: SERV Patches |
Len, do you know how many, or who is on here from Georga, amnd specificly
Atlanta? I am on the Atl rv site, but no-one exept me ever posts anything,
and I have quit due to no replys. Charlie
----- Original Message -----
From: <Lenleg(at)aol.com>
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: SERV Patches
>
> SERV:
>
> I will be placing the order for the patches tomorrow. I am ordering some
> extra so it is not too late to get your order in ...we may can even get
> something posted on the website about them.
>
> I will make a post as soon as they come in !!
>
> Len Leggette, RV-8A
> Greensboro, NC N910LL
> 286 hrs
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: SERV Patches |
In a message dated 11/19/04 9:04:57 AM Eastern Standard Time,
cheathco(at)comcast.net writes:
Len, do you know how many, or who is on here from Georga, amnd specificly
Atlanta? I am on the Atl rv site, but no-one exept me ever posts anything,
and I have quit due to no replys. Charlie
Charlie:
We switched over to Matronics and we don't have as much access to who is
subscribed ... doubt we have any active from Atlanta. Have you tried to connect
with the TeamRV guys ... they are by far the most active guys in the Atlanta
area.
Mike Stewart seems to head the group. _www.mstewart.net_
(http://www.mstewart.net) is his website and has a link to TeamRV.
Len
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| From: | "Ed Anderson" <eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com> |
Is the HBI gathering suggested for Saturday earlier this week still a go - or
did it fall by the way side?
Thanks
Ed
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com
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| Subject: | Re: HBI Gathering?? |
| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
It's still my intention to go if weather allows. Initial interest a
couple days ago was zero, but I told Steve (the wanna-be at HBI) that I
would try to come by, even if nobody else wanted to go. I'll try to
confirm with him this evening and post some details.
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
Ed Anderson said:
>
>
> Is the HBI gathering suggested for Saturday earlier this week still a go
> - or did it fall by the way side?
>
> Thanks
>
> Ed
> Ed Anderson
> Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
> Matthews, NC
> eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: SERV Patches |
| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
Charlie -
That is the nature of the beast. Much of the population on this and other
lists is more comfortable to lurk. Best bet is to check the roster and
the RV-finder, both on our homepage. http://BowenAero.com/SERV
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
Charles Heathco said:
>
>
> Len, do you know how many, or who is on here from Georga, amnd specificly
> Atlanta? I am on the Atl rv site, but no-one exept me ever posts anything,
> and I have quit due to no replys. Charlie
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Lenleg(at)aol.com>
> To:
> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: SERV Patches
>
>
>>
>> SERV:
>>
>> I will be placing the order for the patches tomorrow. I am ordering
>> some
>> extra so it is not too late to get your order in ...we may can even get
>> something posted on the website about them.
>>
>> I will make a post as soon as they come in !!
>>
>> Len Leggette, RV-8A
>> Greensboro, NC N910LL
>> 286 hrs
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: SERV Patches |
Charlie,
My name is Paul LeDoux. Live in Peachtree City. Building a slowwww QB RV-8
in hanger D30 at Falcon Field. All RV's in hanger, come by some time. Send me
an e-mail and we will set something up.
Paul
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| From: | "Ed Anderson" <eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: HBI Gathering?? |
Ok, Larry, Thanks. Weather looks like it could be fog here in the AM hours
but lifting later. I intend to go (need to FLY) and never have been through
the museum there.
Let me know what time you plan on arriving.
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: HBI Gathering??
>
> It's still my intention to go if weather allows. Initial interest a
> couple days ago was zero, but I told Steve (the wanna-be at HBI) that I
> would try to come by, even if nobody else wanted to go. I'll try to
> confirm with him this evening and post some details.
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry(at)BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
>
> Ed Anderson said:
> >
> >
> > Is the HBI gathering suggested for Saturday earlier this week still a
go
> > - or did it fall by the way side?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Ed
> > Ed Anderson
> > Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
> > Matthews, NC
> > eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com
> >
> >
>
>
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| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
Lets shoot for a 14:00 arrival. If cigs are going to lift, they should do
it by then.
Anyone else?
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ed Anderson [mailto:eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com]
> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 5:14 PM
> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: HBI Gathering??
>
> -->
>
> Ok, Larry, Thanks. Weather looks like it could be fog here
> in the AM hours but lifting later. I intend to go (need to
> FLY) and never have been through the museum there.
>
> Let me know what time you plan on arriving.
>
> Ed
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
> To:
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: HBI Gathering??
>
>
>
> >
> > It's still my intention to go if weather allows. Initial
> interest a
> > couple days ago was zero, but I told Steve (the wanna-be at
> HBI) that
> > I would try to come by, even if nobody else wanted to go.
> I'll try to
> > confirm with him this evening and post some details.
> >
> > -
> > Larry Bowen
> > Larry(at)BowenAero.com
> > http://BowenAero.com
> >
> > Ed Anderson said:
> > >
> > >
> > > Is the HBI gathering suggested for Saturday earlier this
> week still
> > > a
> go
> > > - or did it fall by the way side?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Ed
> > > Ed Anderson
> > > Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
> > > Matthews, NC
> > > eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com
> > >
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| From: | "Ed Anderson" <eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: HBI Gathering?? |
Ok, Larry, 1400 at HBI tomorrow.
See you weather permitting.
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: HBI Gathering??
>
> Lets shoot for a 14:00 arrival. If cigs are going to lift, they should do
> it by then.
>
> Anyone else?
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry(at)BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ed Anderson [mailto:eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com]
> > Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 5:14 PM
> > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: HBI Gathering??
> >
> > -->
> >
> > Ok, Larry, Thanks. Weather looks like it could be fog here
> > in the AM hours but lifting later. I intend to go (need to
> > FLY) and never have been through the museum there.
> >
> > Let me know what time you plan on arriving.
> >
> > Ed
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: HBI Gathering??
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > It's still my intention to go if weather allows. Initial
> > interest a
> > > couple days ago was zero, but I told Steve (the wanna-be at
> > HBI) that
> > > I would try to come by, even if nobody else wanted to go.
> > I'll try to
> > > confirm with him this evening and post some details.
> > >
> > > -
> > > Larry Bowen
> > > Larry(at)BowenAero.com
> > > http://BowenAero.com
> > >
> > > Ed Anderson said:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Is the HBI gathering suggested for Saturday earlier this
> > week still
> > > > a
> > go
> > > > - or did it fall by the way side?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Ed
> > > > Ed Anderson
> > > > Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
> > > > Matthews, NC
> > > > eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com
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| From: | "Charles Heathco" <cheathco(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: SERV Patches |
Yes Len, I was on the group site for a while, dropped off as they only talk
about formation flying events, respond to no other subject of question. Im
happy that Mike steered me to the Matronics site.
----- Original Message -----
From: <Lenleg(at)aol.com>
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: SERV Patches
>
>
> In a message dated 11/19/04 9:04:57 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> cheathco(at)comcast.net writes:
>
> Len, do you know how many, or who is on here from Georga, amnd specificly
> Atlanta? I am on the Atl rv site, but no-one exept me ever posts
> anything,
> and I have quit due to no replys. Charlie
>
>
> Charlie:
>
> We switched over to Matronics and we don't have as much access to who is
> subscribed ... doubt we have any active from Atlanta. Have you tried to
> connect
> with the TeamRV guys ... they are by far the most active guys in the
> Atlanta
> area.
>
> Mike Stewart seems to head the group. _www.mstewart.net_
> (http://www.mstewart.net) is his website and has a link to TeamRV.
>
> Len
>
>
>
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| From: | bill crothers <bill28104(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: HBI Gathering?? |
ed, i might be free tomorrow.. what time u planning
to launch to hbi? bill
--- Ed Anderson wrote:
> Anderson"
>
> Ok, Larry, 1400 at HBI tomorrow.
>
> See you weather permitting.
>
> Ed
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
> To:
> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: HBI Gathering??
>
>
> Bowen"
>
> >
> > Lets shoot for a 14:00 arrival. If cigs are going
> to lift, they should do
> > it by then.
> >
> > Anyone else?
> >
> > -
> > Larry Bowen
> > Larry(at)BowenAero.com
> > http://BowenAero.com
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ed Anderson
> [mailto:eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 5:14 PM
> > > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> > > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: HBI Gathering??
> > >
> Anderson"
> > > -->
> > >
> > > Ok, Larry, Thanks. Weather looks like it could
> be fog here
> > > in the AM hours but lifting later. I intend to
> go (need to
> > > FLY) and never have been through the museum
> there.
> > >
> > > Let me know what time you plan on arriving.
> > >
> > > Ed
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
> > > To:
> > > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: HBI Gathering??
> > >
> > >
> Bowen"
> > >
> > > >
> > > > It's still my intention to go if weather
> allows. Initial
> > > interest a
> > > > couple days ago was zero, but I told Steve
> (the wanna-be at
> > > HBI) that
> > > > I would try to come by, even if nobody else
> wanted to go.
> > > I'll try to
> > > > confirm with him this evening and post some
> details.
> > > >
> > > > -
> > > > Larry Bowen
> > > > Larry(at)BowenAero.com
> > > > http://BowenAero.com
> > > >
> > > > Ed Anderson said:
> Anderson"
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Is the HBI gathering suggested for Saturday
> earlier this
> > > week still
> > > > > a
> > > go
> > > > > - or did it fall by the way side?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > Ed
> > > > > Ed Anderson
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| From: | "Ed Anderson" <eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: HBI Gathering?? |
Hi Bill, Larry is going to arrive there around 1400, so I though I might
launch around 1300 and head on up.
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From: "bill crothers" <bill28104(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: HBI Gathering??
>
> ed, i might be free tomorrow.. what time u planning
> to launch to hbi? bill
> --- Ed Anderson wrote:
>
> > Anderson"
> >
> > Ok, Larry, 1400 at HBI tomorrow.
> >
> > See you weather permitting.
> >
> > Ed
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
> > To:
> > Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: HBI Gathering??
> >
> >
> > Bowen"
> >
> > >
> > > Lets shoot for a 14:00 arrival. If cigs are going
> > to lift, they should do
> > > it by then.
> > >
> > > Anyone else?
> > >
> > > -
> > > Larry Bowen
> > > Larry(at)BowenAero.com
> > > http://BowenAero.com
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Ed Anderson
> > [mailto:eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com]
> > > > Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 5:14 PM
> > > > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> > > > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: HBI Gathering??
> > > >
> > Anderson"
> > > > -->
> > > >
> > > > Ok, Larry, Thanks. Weather looks like it could
> > be fog here
> > > > in the AM hours but lifting later. I intend to
> > go (need to
> > > > FLY) and never have been through the museum
> > there.
> > > >
> > > > Let me know what time you plan on arriving.
> > > >
> > > > Ed
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
> > > > To:
> > > > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: HBI Gathering??
> > > >
> > > >
> > Bowen"
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > It's still my intention to go if weather
> > allows. Initial
> > > > interest a
> > > > > couple days ago was zero, but I told Steve
> > (the wanna-be at
> > > > HBI) that
> > > > > I would try to come by, even if nobody else
> > wanted to go.
> > > > I'll try to
> > > > > confirm with him this evening and post some
> > details.
> > > > >
> > > > > -
> > > > > Larry Bowen
> > > > > Larry(at)BowenAero.com
> > > > > http://BowenAero.com
> > > > >
> > > > > Ed Anderson said:
> > Anderson"
> > > > > >
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| From: | "Ed Anderson" <eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com> |
%#$ Weather
%#$ Weather
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 11:21:41 -0500
Well, doesn't look like I will be joining you at HBI, Larry. Forecast for KCLT
shows 300 ft AGL for my planned launch/fly perird. Getting tired of this *&#
@ weekend weather pattern, Good luck on your attempt.
Ed Anderson
Forecast for: KCLT
Text: KCLT 201252Z 201312 17005KT 3SM BR SCT005 BKN015 OVC025
Forecast period: 1300 to 1700 UTC 20 November 2004
Forecast type: FROM: standard forecast or significant change
Winds: from the S (170 degrees) at 6 MPH (5 knots; 2.6 m/s)
Visibility: 3 miles (5 km)
Ceiling: 1500 feet AGL
Clouds: scattered clouds at 500 feet AGL
broken clouds at 1500 feet AGL
overcast cloud deck at 2500 feet AGL
Weather: BR (mist)
Text: TEMPO 1315 1 1/2SM BR BKN003 OVC025
Forecast period: 1300 to 1500 UTC 20 November 2004
Forecast type: TEMPORARY: The following changes expected for less than half
the time period
Visibility: 1.50 miles (2.41 km)
Ceiling: 300 feet AGL
Clouds: broken clouds at 300 feet AGL
overcast cloud deck at 2500 feet AGL
Weather: BR (mist)
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com
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| From: | RV6AN25EH(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: SERV Patches |
numbers(at)matronics.com, mixed(at)matronics.com, in(at)matronics.com,
with(at)matronics.com, letters(at)matronics.com, 1.78(at)matronics.com,
numbers(at)matronics.com, mixed(at)matronics.com, in(at)matronics.com,
with(at)matronics.com, letters(at)matronics.com
Len,
Please put me down for two (2) patches.
Thanks,
Ed Horgan
24 Utopia Rd
AVL, NC 28805
Ph 800.777.6077 x 11
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| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
The trip to HBI was a bust today because of weather. We'll try again in the
near future.....
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
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| From: | Sargentclt(at)cs.com |
| Subject: | Re: Fw: RV6-List: O-320 airbox specifically the air |
filter.
I don't know about the other squawks but unless your air filter is damaged it
requires cleaning and recharging. Recharging is the re-oiling of the filter.
The K&N is one of the highest quality filters available and has a 1 million
mile warranty. Look for a recharge kit at your local autoparts supply.
Tad Sargent
Sargentclt(at)CS.com
RV7A
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| From: | "Charles Heathco" <cheathco(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Fw: RV6-List: O-320 airbox specifically the air |
filter.
Thanks Tad, yes that s what I ended up doing, charlie
----- Original Message -----
From: <Sargentclt(at)cs.com>
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Fw: RV6-List: O-320 airbox specifically the
air filter.
>
> I don't know about the other squawks but unless your air filter is damaged
> it
> requires cleaning and recharging. Recharging is the re-oiling of the
> filter.
> The K&N is one of the highest quality filters available and has a 1
> million
> mile warranty. Look for a recharge kit at your local autoparts supply.
>
> Tad Sargent
> Sargentclt(at)CS.com
> RV7A
>
>
>
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| From: | "Charles Heathco" <cheathco(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Retrofiting P-51 style throtle |
Hiya, I know it can be done, is there a kit abailible, and has anyone here
done it. (RV6A) Charlie
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| From: | ATRdriver(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Retrofiting P-51 style throtle |
Hey Charlie,
You may want to check out this site as well.
_http://www.infinityaerospace.com/Quadrant.htm_
(http://www.infinityaerospace.com/Quadrant.htm)
Terry Swindle
Boca Raton, FL
In a message dated 11/21/2004 1:30:05 PM Eastern Standard Time,
cheathco(at)comcast.net writes:
Hiya, I know it can be done, is there a kit abailible, and has anyone here
done it. (RV6A) Charlie
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| From: | "Charles Heathco" <cheathco(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Retrofit strobes |
The 6A I just got has no rotating beacon nor strobes. I think beacon at
least might be a legal requirment as all cert aircr have them. Question is,
who has retrofitted what? Builder says he ran a wire which is coiled in the
tail someplace, so a vert stab tip I think could work. wing tip strobles
might be easier but a lot more expensive. Any recomendations? charlie
heathco
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Retrofit strobes |
| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
A light on top of the VS might be annoying shining over your shoulder in
the cockpit, unless your block the light in that direction.
You can save some money if you go with strobes by getting a "non-aviation"
power supply, like these:
http://strobeguy.safeshopper.com/1/cat1.htm?240
Mine has been working well so far.
I'm not sure I've seen an RV with a rotating beacon. Doesn't mean it
can't be done........
Cheers,
-
Larry Bowen, RV-8, 27.5 Hrs.
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
Charles Heathco said:
>
>
> The 6A I just got has no rotating beacon nor strobes. I think beacon at
> least might be a legal requirment as all cert aircr have them. Question
> is,
> who has retrofitted what? Builder says he ran a wire which is coiled in
> the
> tail someplace, so a vert stab tip I think could work. wing tip strobles
> might be easier but a lot more expensive. Any recomendations? charlie
> heathco
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Retrofit strobes |
In a message dated 11/22/04 8:47:02 AM Eastern Standard Time,
cheathco(at)comcast.net writes:
The 6A I just got has no rotating beacon nor strobes. I think beacon at
least might be a legal requirment as all cert aircr have them. Question is,
who has retrofitted what? Builder says he ran a wire which is coiled in the
tail someplace, so a vert stab tip I think could work. wing tip strobles
might be easier but a lot more expensive. Any recomendations? charlie
heathco
Charlie:
Most RVs do not put a big ... speed slowing ... beacon on their plane. We
work so hard at putting in flush rivets and trying to keep everything so clean
on the plane. To put a beacon on would seem to be the opposite of that.
I put on wingtip strobes as well as a tail strobe that fits into the
fiberglass cap on the bottom of the rudder. I have flown behind several RVs with
the tail strobe and it is really visible.
Good luck with whatever method you choose !!
Len Leggette, RV-8A
Greensboro, N.C. N910LL
286 hrs
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| From: | "Ed Anderson" <eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Retrofit strobes |
Charlies, I have a single strobe on the VS. If placed correctly on the
RV-6 Vs the forward top of the VS shadows the cockpit from the strobe and I
have had no problem with it - even in clouds.
Ed Anderson
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Heathco" <cheathco(at)comcast.net>
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Retrofit strobes
>
> The 6A I just got has no rotating beacon nor strobes. I think beacon at
> least might be a legal requirment as all cert aircr have them. Question
is,
> who has retrofitted what? Builder says he ran a wire which is coiled in
the
> tail someplace, so a vert stab tip I think could work. wing tip strobles
> might be easier but a lot more expensive. Any recomendations? charlie
> heathco
>
>
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| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
FYI -
For those using the Dynon D10, there is a new software update on their site.
I installed it last night without any problems.
http://www.dynonavionics.com/docs/EFIS_D10_downloads.html
-
Larry Bowen, RV-8, 27.5 hrs
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
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| Subject: | SERV Christmas Party Dec. 11 |
SERV:
Christmas Party / Get Together / Lunch
Saturday December 11 around 1:00pm
Stantons BBQ Bennetsville, South Carolina
GPS Coordinates: N34-43-9 W79-40-0 Runways 12 / 30 Freq. 122.9
If you have never flown into Stantons ... it is a little hard to find from
the air ... runway is right beside the restaurant ...should see planes lined up
in the parking area. It is a grass strip. Event is on the calendar with
all info about the airport there too ... _www.bowenaero.com/serv_
(http://www.bowenaero.com/serv)
We can do some airport hopping after lunch !!!
Please respond with your intentions ... don't want it to be just Larry and
me !!
Len Leggette, RV-8A
Greensboro, N.C. N910LL
286 hrs
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| From: | bill crothers <bill28104(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: SERV Christmas Party Dec. 11 |
I'll be there, good Lord willin'...bill c.
--- Lenleg(at)aol.com wrote:
> Lenleg(at)aol.com
>
> SERV:
>
> Christmas Party / Get Together / Lunch
>
> Saturday December 11 around 1:00pm
>
> Stantons BBQ Bennetsville, South Carolina
>
> GPS Coordinates: N34-43-9 W79-40-0 Runways 12 /
> 30 Freq. 122.9
>
> If you have never flown into Stantons ... it is a
> little hard to find from
> the air ... runway is right beside the restaurant
> ...should see planes lined up
> in the parking area. It is a grass strip. Event
> is on the calendar with
> all info about the airport there too ...
> _www.bowenaero.com/serv_
> (http://www.bowenaero.com/serv)
>
> We can do some airport hopping after lunch !!!
>
> Please respond with your intentions ... don't want
> it to be just Larry and
> me !!
>
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> Greensboro, N.C. N910LL
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| From: | "Charles Heathco" <cheathco(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: SERV Christmas Party Dec. 11 |
Len, Ill be comming if weather permits. Havent seen the sun he in Atl since
Fri Morn. charlie heathco
----- Original Message -----
From: <Lenleg(at)aol.com>
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: SERV Christmas Party Dec. 11
>
> SERV:
>
> Christmas Party / Get Together / Lunch
>
> Saturday December 11 around 1:00pm
>
> Stantons BBQ Bennetsville, South Carolina
>
> GPS Coordinates: N34-43-9 W79-40-0 Runways 12 / 30 Freq. 122.9
>
> If you have never flown into Stantons ... it is a little hard to find from
> the air ... runway is right beside the restaurant ...should see planes
> lined up
> in the parking area. It is a grass strip. Event is on the calendar with
> all info about the airport there too ... _www.bowenaero.com/serv_
> (http://www.bowenaero.com/serv)
>
> We can do some airport hopping after lunch !!!
>
> Please respond with your intentions ... don't want it to be just Larry and
> me !!
>
> Len Leggette, RV-8A
> Greensboro, N.C. N910LL
> 286 hrs
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: SERV Christmas Party Dec. 11 |
Good choice...I will be there. W8
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| From: | Demeylor(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: SERV Christmas Party Dec. 11 |
We plan to attend are wives invited /or are they comeing? Dean & JEANENE
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| Subject: | Re: SERV Christmas Party Dec. 11 |
In a message dated 11/23/04 7:17:21 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Demeylor(at)aol.com writes:
We plan to attend are wives invited /or are they comeing? Dean & JEANENE
Absolutely ... invited and hope all will come !!!
Len
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| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
| Subject: | Wheel Pants (Tailwheel) |
I've fit the wheel pants per the plans, with the plane in level attitude.
When I set the tail back down, I have what seems to be very little clearence
between the ground and the aft half of the fairing. The aft corner is only
1.6" above the ground, and there is maybe .75" clearance near the tire.
Will this survive a firm landing or an unkept grass strip? I guess raising
the fairing higher than the 1" above the top of the tire is the answer.
What have others done?
-
Larry Bowen, RV-8, 27.5 hrs
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
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| From: | Dana Breda <dbreda(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Wheel Pants (Tailwheel) |
Larry,
My fairings may have a bit more ground clearance than yours, but I
wouldn't want them any lower than they are. I've been on some fairly
rough strips, and have beat them up, but haven't lost them (yet). I've
scraped them up a bit taxiing off paved runways onto the grass parking
areas at flyins. You can walk down to my hangar and look at them anytime.
Dana Breda
RV-6
Larry Bowen wrote:
>
>I've fit the wheel pants per the plans, with the plane in level attitude.
>When I set the tail back down, I have what seems to be very little clearence
>between the ground and the aft half of the fairing. The aft corner is only
>1.6" above the ground, and there is maybe .75" clearance near the tire.
>Will this survive a firm landing or an unkept grass strip? I guess raising
>the fairing higher than the 1" above the top of the tire is the answer.
>What have others done?
>
>-
>Larry Bowen, RV-8, 27.5 hrs
>Larry(at)BowenAero.com
>http://BowenAero.com
>
>
>
>
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| From: | "BOB martin" <libertyva(at)msn.com> |
| Subject: | Wheel Pants (Tailwheel) |
Larry,
We followed the plans like you did and came up with the same results.
We were replacing the original pants on your -6's for upgrading purposes.
We have come to realize the original design was better for grass strips, etc
Larry and I were looking for the newer looks and more speed as usual but
didn't know we were giving up some utility as we hadn't heard orther guys
speak of it. We started with 1/2" space around the tire and found we had to
enlarge this where the tire bulges from low air or heaven forbid a bounced
landing. When we replaced tires we went to the air stop tubes and now keep
the air pressure about 35+ and watch it a little more......
Like Dana said we watch the step downs at the edge of the pavements a little
closer too. When we land at grass strips(mostly, Stormy's) we don't seem to
have any problems. My opinion is the design is fine for normal flying and
landing but could get hurt in odd taxi or bounced landings. The plus side is
the fiberglass is easy to fix.....:-)
I hate admit this but I will.....We used the Stainless Steel brackets
instead of the Alum ones vans supplied and before we painted them, he had a
bad bounced landing that broke the bottom rear half of the pant....actually
a small tear, easy to repair. but it also bend the SS bracket and when it
bent, it rubbed the brake disc. The fix was pretty easy as we disassembled
it and straightened it out and fixed the fiberglass....and yes, enlarged the
gap between the tire and pant. Now we think about our pants on every
landing.
It is amazing as I have come to learn to fly this taildragger, I first
thought about the tail while landing, then in crosswinds I thought about the
wingtips while landing, and now I feel I have progressed to only thinking
about the wheel pants while landing....I think I'm improving....:-)
Happy Thanksgiving to all.
Bob Martin, Louisa County,VA "Veggie Tale Squadron"
>
>
>I've fit the wheel pants per the plans, with the plane in level attitude.
>When I set the tail back down, I have what seems to be very little
>clearence
>between the ground and the aft half of the fairing. The aft corner is only
>1.6" above the ground, and there is maybe .75" clearance near the tire.
>Will this survive a firm landing or an unkept grass strip? I guess raising
>the fairing higher than the 1" above the top of the tire is the answer.
>What have others done?
>
>-
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "David Davenport" <ddavenport5(at)nc.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: SERV Christmas Party Dec. 11 |
Len, Robin and I will do our best to be there. See everybody then, if not
before.
David Davenport
----- Original Message -----
From: <Lenleg(at)aol.com>
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: SERV Christmas Party Dec. 11
>
> SERV:
>
> Christmas Party / Get Together / Lunch
>
> Saturday December 11 around 1:00pm
>
> Stantons BBQ Bennetsville, South Carolina
>
> GPS Coordinates: N34-43-9 W79-40-0 Runways 12 / 30 Freq. 122.9
>
> If you have never flown into Stantons ... it is a little hard to find from
> the air ... runway is right beside the restaurant ...should see planes
> lined up
> in the parking area. It is a grass strip. Event is on the calendar with
> all info about the airport there too ... _www.bowenaero.com/serv_
> (http://www.bowenaero.com/serv)
>
> We can do some airport hopping after lunch !!!
>
> Please respond with your intentions ... don't want it to be just Larry and
> me !!
>
> Len Leggette, RV-8A
> Greensboro, N.C. N910LL
> 286 hrs
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
SERV:
Larry Bowen and I are flying early tomorrow morning. We are launching
around 8am and going down to Stanly Cty (Albemarle) KVUJ ... take the coutesy
car
for breakfast.
All or any are welcome to join us !! We will be monitoring 122.85 ..
Len Leggette, RV-8A
Greensboro, NC N910LL
286 hrs
cell: 336-210-4308
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | RGray67968(at)aol.com |
Hi Gang,
Happy Thanksgiving!!
Wayne asked me about changing my O360 fixed pitch over to a Hartzell C/S. I
replied to him directly but thought a few of you may interested in the change
over as well.
Rick in Ohio at the Buffalo Farm - read on:
Hi Wayne,
Transition went fine. After I did mine another member of our group changed
his over and yet another has a C/S on order as we speak and will make the change
as soon as his prop arrives.
Here's a list of parts you'll need:
-new prop
-governor
-governor adapter - Aerosport Power
-governor gear drive - Aerosport Power
-governor to engine - oil supply line - Aerosport Power
-all fittings and gaskets for the governor and supply line - Aerosport Power
-governor control bracket - Vans
-vernier cable - Vans
-new rear crank plug - Aerosport Power
-tool to install the new rear crank plug - I have one
-new spinner - Vans
-new bulkheads for the spinner - Vans
-new doubler plate for the rear bulkhead - Vans
-firewall pass through grommets - local or look in your toolbox or buy from
Vans
Don't forget, this is a MAJOR CHANGE and will require some FAA paperwork.
Mine was easy, just had to make the entries in my logs and fly off 5 hours with
no passengers in my phase 1 area.
Also you'll need some clean towels.....to wipe the grin off your face after
your 1st flight....ha ha.
Took me 7 days but a lot of that was making a new spinner with no visable
screws in it. That included paint as well.
You can do it in 3 days if you work on it.
Good luck,
Rick - home email is rgray67968(at)aol.com
or call me at 740-678-8031 home or 740-350-5188 cell
Rick:
Len tells me you just upgraded to a CS prop. I'm building a 9 and am
thinking of moving my FP 180hp to the 9 and installing a new Superior XP-360
with a CS prop in my 8. How did your transition go? Thanks for the input!
Wayne
Danville, VA
________________________________________________________________________________
What was the cost of the conversion? W8
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | RGray67968(at)aol.com |
Wayne,
Overhauled Hartzell C/S and Woodward governor was $3,800 total plus a few
bucks shipping from US Propellers in NC.
Flexible oil line $100
Vernier prop control cable ~$50
Control cable bracket ~$12
Misc stuff ~$10
Less $1,500 AND a Vans spinner kit for my Warnke wood prop that I sold to
offset the cost.
Total out of pocket ~$2,472
Not bad for a Zero time C/S Hartzell :
).
And a GREAT addition to my RV....especially for formation flying. Kinda' like
having a 'brake pedal' on the floor :
). Also, power is RIGHT THERE when you
need it.
And....I get about 7-8 mph on the top end....although it seems to use about a
half gallon an hour of fuel more than the wood prop at cruise.....(now I'm up
to about 8.7/hr) but.....I'm going faster so it's a trade off.
Rick at the Buffalo Farm
What was the cost of the conversion? W8
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
| Subject: | RE: RV-List: Wheel Pants (Tailwheel) |
Thanks for all the input on the wheel pants. Looks like I have some re-work
ahead of me to raise them up a little. Better to do it now than after
things are painted.....
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Ron Schreck" <ronschreck(at)webkorner.com> |
Bob,
How much tire clearance did you end up with on your pants?
Ron Schreck
RV-8, Gold Hill Airpark
>>>Larry and I were looking for the newer looks and more speed as usual but
didn't know we were giving up some utility as we hadn't heard orther guys
speak of it. We started with 1/2" space around the tire and found we had to
enlarge this where the tire bulges from low air or heaven forbid a bounced
landing.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "BOB martin" <libertyva(at)msn.com> |
| Subject: | Wheel Pants and more |
Ron,
The 1/2 is and was enough in front and rear where the tire doesn't get
larger but where it bulges we probably got close to 3/4"....that, with new
vigilance on the tire pressure which is helped by the air-stop tubes.......
I never thought about raising the pant, like larry is proposing.
I read one report where a builder even lowered his for more tire coverage.
Looking at the tire from the air, in flight, there seems to be plenty
showing.
One builder told me his didn't come with the rear bulkhead in the back half,
and he taxied on gravel one time and it acted like a scoop.....the rear
bulkhead seems important to the overall strength of the complete assembly
and don't forget the drain hole for the space behind the bulkhead.
as a note here...I reinforced the mounting screw hole areas with a few extra
layers of fiberglass cloth about 2 inches square. I also made sure the
lower tire opening edges were nice and round so not to cut the tire if it
did touch.
While on the subject, I used a trick to find the holes to drill into the
nutplates once I had perfect alignment......I made a little crude wiring
harness with xmas tree lights.....from the LOWES aviation electrical dept.
and taped then behind the nutplate so I could see the hole perfectly.
Also.....I used Flox (epoxy and floxed cotton) as a filler under the axle
bracket to fill the gap between the bracket and the pant. Once it cured, I
then added the rivets thru the assembly for a good strong connection.
Happy Building
Bob Martin, Louisa County, Va.... Veggie Tale Squadron......:-)
>Bob,
>
>How much tire clearance did you end up with on your pants?
>
>Ron Schreck
>RV-8, Gold Hill Airpark
>
> >>>Larry and I were looking for the newer looks and more speed as usual
>but
>didn't know we were giving up some utility as we hadn't heard orther guys
>speak of it. We started with 1/2" space around the tire and found we had
>to
>enlarge this where the tire bulges from low air or heaven forbid a bounced
>landing.
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | SportAV8R(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Flying Friday |
Sorry- was too busy frezing my buns off on the deer stand to fly until later on
this afternoon, when I took Kevin, the 22 year old, to KBCB to visit his sweetie
for a few minutes, then back to the grind (literally: venison chuck)... Bagged
4 so far, Len; I think I'll lay off the hunting for awhile. It's just not
a challenge anymore ;-)
-Stormy
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Charles Heathco" <cheathco(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Oil temp dropping to min. |
Lasttime I was able to get up, I noticed oil temp was lower than norm,
Today able to get up again and it never got but just above min. I would
intuitivly guess it would be more likely the sender than the guage, but I
would like to know if anyone has had this problem? charlie (RV6A)
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
It was a good day to be up. 3.9 hours today and 31.4 total now.......
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: SportAV8R(at)aol.com [mailto:SportAV8R(at)aol.com]
> Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 3:29 PM
> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Flying Friday
>
>
> Sorry- was too busy frezing my buns off on the deer stand to
> fly until later on this afternoon, when I took Kevin, the 22
> year old, to KBCB to visit his sweetie for a few minutes,
> then back to the grind (literally: venison chuck)... Bagged 4
> so far, Len; I think I'll lay off the hunting for awhile.
> It's just not a challenge anymore ;-)
>
> -Stormy
>
>
> =========
> =========
> Matronics Forums.
> =========
> =========
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
| Subject: | Oil temp dropping to min. |
My oil temp is not as high as it use to be when it was warmer out either. I
have about half of the oil cooler taped off with AL tape. It geets the job
done.....
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charles Heathco [mailto:cheathco(at)comcast.net]
> Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 6:20 PM
> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Oil temp dropping to min.
>
> -->
>
> Lasttime I was able to get up, I noticed oil temp was lower
> than norm, Today able to get up again and it never got but
> just above min. I would intuitivly guess it would be more
> likely the sender than the guage, but I would like to know if
> anyone has had this problem? charlie (RV6A)
>
>
> =========
> =========
> Matronics Forums.
> =========
> =========
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Flying Friday |
In a message dated 11/26/2004 3:30:02 PM Eastern Standard Time,
SportAV8R(at)aol.com writes:
> Len; I think I'll lay off the hunting for awhile. It's just not a
> challenge anymore ;-)
>
> -Stormy
>
Froze my buns off in the stand last night ... saw 3 on the way into the stand
and then nothing in the stand ... wind was really blowing ... glad I was not
flying !!! (Haha)
Larry and I flew this morn ... it was so nice early ... smooth and you could
see forever !!
Len
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Oil temp dropping to min. |
In a message dated 11/26/2004 6:21:03 PM Eastern Standard Time,
cheathco(at)comcast.net writes:
> Lasttime I was able to get up, I noticed oil temp was lower than norm,
> Today able to get up again and it never got but just above min. I would
> intuitivly guess it would be more likely the sender than the guage, but I
> would like to know if anyone has had this problem? charlie (RV6A)
>
I have to block off at least half the oil cooler in colder weather to get the
oil temp up to normal ...
Len Leggette, RV-8A
Greensboro, NC N910LL
287 hrs
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Charles Heathco" <cheathco(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Oil temp dropping to min. |
I thought about that Larry, but its hardly registering, and wasnt that cold
today (I agree, great day to fly 3.1 for me) Aso last flight was somewhat
balmy and was well below norm. charlie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Oil temp dropping to min.
>
>
> My oil temp is not as high as it use to be when it was warmer out either.
> I
> have about half of the oil cooler taped off with AL tape. It geets the
> job
> done.....
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry(at)BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Charles Heathco [mailto:cheathco(at)comcast.net]
>> Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 6:20 PM
>> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
>> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Oil temp dropping to min.
>>
>> -->
>>
>> Lasttime I was able to get up, I noticed oil temp was lower
>> than norm, Today able to get up again and it never got but
>> just above min. I would intuitivly guess it would be more
>> likely the sender than the guage, but I would like to know if
>> anyone has had this problem? charlie (RV6A)
>>
>>
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>> =========
>> Matronics Forums.
>> =========
>> =========
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>
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>
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| Subject: | Re: Flying Friday |
yes indeed. I could see as far as my crappy eyes would let me. And at
5500 it was s m o o t h .
Robert Dickson
RV-6A turned 60 hrs today
On Nov 26, 2004, at 7:18 PM, Larry Bowen wrote:
>
>
> It was a good day to be up. 3.9 hours today and 31.4 total now.......
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry(at)BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: SportAV8R(at)aol.com [mailto:SportAV8R(at)aol.com]
>> Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 3:29 PM
>> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Flying Friday
>>
>>
>> Sorry- was too busy frezing my buns off on the deer stand to
>> fly until later on this afternoon, when I took Kevin, the 22
>> year old, to KBCB to visit his sweetie for a few minutes,
>> then back to the grind (literally: venison chuck)... Bagged 4
>> so far, Len; I think I'll lay off the hunting for awhile.
>> It's just not a challenge anymore ;-)
>>
>> -Stormy
>>
>>
>> =========
>> =========
>> Matronics Forums.
>> =========
>> =========
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Charles Heathco" <cheathco(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Flying Friday |
You guys ought to go up to Mo. Reported over 1 millon in the state
estimated. when I was up there mid oct they were knee deep on the roads in
the evening where I grew up. charlie
----- Original Message -----
From: <Lenleg(at)aol.com>
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Flying Friday
>
> In a message dated 11/26/2004 3:30:02 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> SportAV8R(at)aol.com writes:
>
>> Len; I think I'll lay off the hunting for awhile. It's just not a
>> challenge anymore ;-)
>>
>> -Stormy
>>
>
> Froze my buns off in the stand last night ... saw 3 on the way into the
> stand
> and then nothing in the stand ... wind was really blowing ... glad I was
> not
> flying !!! (Haha)
>
> Larry and I flew this morn ... it was so nice early ... smooth and you
> could
> see forever !!
>
> Len
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Charles Heathco" <cheathco(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Oil temp dropping to min. |
The Oil cooler on my 6a is back on the lower firewall as compared to my
cherokee up in the direct outside air path. Last winter cherokee oil temp
was pretty close to norm even in Jan. charlie
----- Original Message -----
From: <Lenleg(at)aol.com>
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Oil temp dropping to min.
>
> In a message dated 11/26/2004 6:21:03 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> cheathco(at)comcast.net writes:
>
>> Lasttime I was able to get up, I noticed oil temp was lower than norm,
>> Today able to get up again and it never got but just above min. I would
>> intuitivly guess it would be more likely the sender than the guage, but I
>> would like to know if anyone has had this problem? charlie (RV6A)
>>
>
> I have to block off at least half the oil cooler in colder weather to get
> the
> oil temp up to normal ...
>
> Len Leggette, RV-8A
> Greensboro, NC N910LL
> 287 hrs
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
| Subject: | Wheel Pants and more |
FYI - Wheel pant pictures are on my site. What do you think?
http://BowenAero.com
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com/serv
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BOB martin [mailto:libertyva(at)msn.com]
> Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 7:58 AM
> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Wheel Pants and more
>
>
>
> Ron,
> The 1/2 is and was enough in front and rear where the tire
> doesn't get larger but where it bulges we probably got close
> to 3/4"....that, with new vigilance on the tire pressure
> which is helped by the air-stop tubes.......
> I never thought about raising the pant, like larry is proposing.
> I read one report where a builder even lowered his for more
> tire coverage.
> Looking at the tire from the air, in flight, there seems to
> be plenty showing.
> One builder told me his didn't come with the rear bulkhead in
> the back half, and he taxied on gravel one time and it acted
> like a scoop.....the rear bulkhead seems important to the
> overall strength of the complete assembly and don't forget
> the drain hole for the space behind the bulkhead.
> as a note here...I reinforced the mounting screw hole areas
> with a few extra layers of fiberglass cloth about 2 inches
> square. I also made sure the lower tire opening edges were
> nice and round so not to cut the tire if it did touch.
>
> While on the subject, I used a trick to find the holes to
> drill into the nutplates once I had perfect alignment......I
> made a little crude wiring harness with xmas tree
> lights.....from the LOWES aviation electrical dept.
> and taped then behind the nutplate so I could see the hole perfectly.
> Also.....I used Flox (epoxy and floxed cotton) as a filler
> under the axle bracket to fill the gap between the bracket
> and the pant. Once it cured, I then added the rivets thru the
> assembly for a good strong connection.
>
> Happy Building
> Bob Martin, Louisa County, Va.... Veggie Tale Squadron......:-)
>
>
> >Bob,
> >
> >How much tire clearance did you end up with on your pants?
> >
> >Ron Schreck
> >RV-8, Gold Hill Airpark
> >
> > >>>Larry and I were looking for the newer looks and more speed as
> > >>>usual
> >but
> >didn't know we were giving up some utility as we hadn't heard orther
> >guys speak of it. We started with 1/2" space around the
> tire and found
> >we had to enlarge this where the tire bulges from low air or heaven
> >forbid a bounced landing.
> >
> >
>
>
> =========
> =========
> Matronics Forums.
> =========
> =========
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Oil temp dropping to min. |
I have the same problem. This morning I saw 138 oil temp on a 30 min
flight to FAY. Why doesn't the vernatherm work to get oil temps up to
where they should be? I thought that oil wasn't supposed to flow to the
cooler until it reaches the temp specified on the vernatherm. Seems
like that ought to eliminate having to block off the cooler. What don't
I understand about what's happening here?
Robert Dickson
RV-6A
On Nov 26, 2004, at 7:24 PM, Lenleg(at)aol.com wrote:
>
> In a message dated 11/26/2004 6:21:03 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> cheathco(at)comcast.net writes:
>
>> Lasttime I was able to get up, I noticed oil temp was lower than
>> norm,
>> Today able to get up again and it never got but just above min. I
>> would
>> intuitivly guess it would be more likely the sender than the guage,
>> but I
>> would like to know if anyone has had this problem? charlie (RV6A)
>>
>
> I have to block off at least half the oil cooler in colder weather to
> get the
> oil temp up to normal ...
>
> Len Leggette, RV-8A
> Greensboro, NC N910LL
> 287 hrs
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "James E. Clark" <james(at)nextupventures.com> |
| Subject: | SERV Christmas Party Dec. 11 |
Sounds like a plan, Len.
Hopefully we can get a few from the "Palmetto Wing"
See ya there ... again, weather permitting. :-)
James
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> Lenleg(at)aol.com
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 9:42 AM
> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: SERV Christmas Party Dec. 11
>
>
>
> SERV:
>
> Christmas Party / Get Together / Lunch
>
> Saturday December 11 around 1:00pm
>
> Stantons BBQ Bennetsville, South Carolina
>
> GPS Coordinates: N34-43-9 W79-40-0 Runways 12 / 30 Freq. 122.9
>
> If you have never flown into Stantons ... it is a little hard to
> find from
> the air ... runway is right beside the restaurant ...should see
> planes lined up
> in the parking area. It is a grass strip. Event is on the
> calendar with
> all info about the airport there too ... _www.bowenaero.com/serv_
> (http://www.bowenaero.com/serv)
>
> We can do some airport hopping after lunch !!!
>
> Please respond with your intentions ... don't want it to be just
> Larry and
> me !!
>
> Len Leggette, RV-8A
> Greensboro, N.C. N910LL
> 286 hrs
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "James E. Clark" <james(at)nextupventures.com> |
Well Len, Ken and I got a little flying in this afternoon too.
Was up LATE (in the cold) finishing up a marker beacon receiver install as
part of the IFR upgrade of "Papa Juliette". Then the *replacement* STROBE
assembly arrived so that got installed as well.
Was still clear and smooth so we did a bit of formation practice ... boy was
I rusty from no practice for a week or two. Then on to do some practice ILS
approaches at KCAE. All seems to work except I need to get the volume
cranked up a bit on the RCVR and the blue light was hard to see in the
BRIGHT sunlight. But then again that should not be a problem. :-)
We gotta get the "formation" members of this gang together somewhere for
some formation practice.
James
{SNIP}
>
> Larry and I flew this morn ... it was so nice early ... smooth
> and you could
> see forever !!
>
> Len
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Ed Anderson" <eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Weather OK- Event Not |
Well, wouldn't you know it. Finally found a Sat that the weather permitted me
to fly, so I headed for the Rowan RQU EAA chapter brunch. Arrived at RQU to discover
I had misread the calendar and the brunch is tomorrow{:>( Sigh. But,
a young lady and boy got to play fighter pilot sitting in the cockpit - so not
a loss. A great morning for flying, got back before the PM weather closed in.
Now, If I can just get the weather and the event on the same day {:>)
Ed
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com
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| From: | "James E. Clark" <james(at)nextupventures.com> |
| Subject: | Weather OK- Event Not |
Ed (and others),
The South Carolina Breakfast Club (SCBC) is gathering at East Cooper (near
Charleston ... 8S5) tommorrow. If the weather clears, Ken and I plan to fly
down.
Get there by 9:00-9:30 and you ar ein pleanty of time. It ends at 11:00.
Something to consider.
James
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ed
> Anderson
> Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 2:08 PM
> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Weather OK- Event Not
>
>
>
>
> Well, wouldn't you know it. Finally found a Sat that the weather
> permitted me to fly, so I headed for the Rowan RQU EAA chapter
> brunch. Arrived at RQU to discover I had misread the calendar
> and the brunch is tomorrow{:>( Sigh. But, a young lady and boy
> got to play fighter pilot sitting in the cockpit - so not a loss.
> A great morning for flying, got back before the PM weather closed in.
>
> Now, If I can just get the weather and the event on the same day {:>)
>
> Ed
>
> Ed Anderson
> Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
> Matthews, NC
> eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com
>
>
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| From: | "Ed Anderson" <eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Weather OK- Event Not |
Hi James,
Thanks for the invite. However, looks like low ceilings are going to hang
around this AM. I am planning on replacing my "mufflers"
with my latest and greatest design - I need to quite this exhaust
before I lose whats left of my hearing. So I'll just bite the bullet and
tackle that job today.
But, one of these days I will be down again to see you folks
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From: "James E. Clark" <james(at)nextupventures.com>
Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Weather OK- Event Not
>
> Ed (and others),
>
> The South Carolina Breakfast Club (SCBC) is gathering at East Cooper (near
> Charleston ... 8S5) tommorrow. If the weather clears, Ken and I plan to
fly
> down.
>
> Get there by 9:00-9:30 and you ar ein pleanty of time. It ends at 11:00.
>
> Something to consider.
>
> James
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ed
> > Anderson
> > Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 2:08 PM
> > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Weather OK- Event Not
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Well, wouldn't you know it. Finally found a Sat that the weather
> > permitted me to fly, so I headed for the Rowan RQU EAA chapter
> > brunch. Arrived at RQU to discover I had misread the calendar
> > and the brunch is tomorrow{:>( Sigh. But, a young lady and boy
> > got to play fighter pilot sitting in the cockpit - so not a loss.
> > A great morning for flying, got back before the PM weather closed in.
> >
> > Now, If I can just get the weather and the event on the same day {:>)
> >
> > Ed
> >
> > Ed Anderson
> > Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
> > Matthews, NC
> > eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com
> >
> >
>
>
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| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
| Subject: | Weather OK- Event Not |
I flew Saturday morning also. Nice and smooth.
I'm going to try to make the RUQ brunch before it ends at 2:00 via the
Decathlon if the winds aren't too great.....
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ed Anderson [mailto:eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com]
> Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 2:08 PM
> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Weather OK- Event Not
>
> -->
>
> Well, wouldn't you know it. Finally found a Sat that the
> weather permitted me to fly, so I headed for the Rowan RQU
> EAA chapter brunch. Arrived at RQU to discover I had misread
> the calendar and the brunch is tomorrow{:>( Sigh. But, a
> young lady and boy got to play fighter pilot sitting in the
> cockpit - so not a loss. A great morning for flying, got
> back before the PM weather closed in.
>
> Now, If I can just get the weather and the event on the same day {:>)
>
> Ed
>
> Ed Anderson
> Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
> Matthews, NC
> eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com
>
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| Subject: | Re: SERV Christmas Party Dec. 11 |
In a message dated 11/27/2004 2:20:44 AM Eastern Standard Time,
james(at)nextupventures.com writes:
> Sounds like a plan, Len.
>
> Hopefully we can get a few from the "Palmetto Wing"
>
> See ya there ... again, weather permitting. :-)
>
> James
>
Looking forward to seeing you guys ... too close for us not to see more of
each other !!
Len
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| From: | "James E. Clark" <james(at)nextupventures.com> |
| Subject: | Weather OK- Event Not |
Well ...
Weather was not great again.
We waited until it was VFR (forward viz OK, ceilings slow to lift/burn off)
and flew down as a flight of two.
Turns out, Ken and I were the **only** planes to fly in to the Breakfast
Club, VFR. There was ONE other plane that filed and came in from somewhere
near Atlanta I heard.
Good friendly people. They even gave us breakfast "on the house" (for making
the trip I guess).
James
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ed
> Anderson
> Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 7:19 AM
> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Weather OK- Event Not
>
>
>
>
> Hi James,
>
> Thanks for the invite. However, looks like low ceilings are going to hang
> around this AM. I am planning on replacing my "mufflers"
> with my latest and greatest design - I need to quite this exhaust
> before I lose whats left of my hearing. So I'll just bite the bullet and
> tackle that job today.
>
> But, one of these days I will be down again to see you folks
>
> Ed
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James E. Clark" <james(at)nextupventures.com>
> To:
> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Weather OK- Event Not
>
>
>
> >
> > Ed (and others),
> >
> > The South Carolina Breakfast Club (SCBC) is gathering at East
> Cooper (near
> > Charleston ... 8S5) tommorrow. If the weather clears, Ken and I plan to
> fly
> > down.
> >
> > Get there by 9:00-9:30 and you ar ein pleanty of time. It ends at 11:00.
> >
> > Something to consider.
> >
> > James
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com
> > > [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ed
> > > Anderson
> > > Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 2:08 PM
> > > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> > > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Weather OK- Event Not
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Well, wouldn't you know it. Finally found a Sat that the weather
> > > permitted me to fly, so I headed for the Rowan RQU EAA chapter
> > > brunch. Arrived at RQU to discover I had misread the calendar
> > > and the brunch is tomorrow{:>( Sigh. But, a young lady and boy
> > > got to play fighter pilot sitting in the cockpit - so not a loss.
> > > A great morning for flying, got back before the PM weather
> closed in.
> > >
> > > Now, If I can just get the weather and the event on the same day {:>)
> > >
> > > Ed
> > >
> > > Ed Anderson
> > > Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
> > > Matthews, NC
> > > eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| From: | SportAV8R(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | I'm b-a-a-a-a-ack |
2.27 GAPPY_SUBJECT Subject: contains G.a.p.p.y-T.e.x.t
An amazing thing happened today: the kind folks at Hughes Aerospace finally fixed
a software glitch at their DirecWay satellite ISP headquarters, thus letting
me once again log onto AOL from my home. It's been a long 30 days with no email
access except from work. Thanks, Howie! About freakin' time!
Stormy
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| From: | SportAV8R(at)aol.com |
It was a good day to be up. 3.9 hours today and 31.4 total now.......
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
That's a lot of time in the saddle, Larry. Especially on a 50 nm leash. Good
going. I hope it is all productive and routine. I managed to log time all three
days this weekend; I'm up over 450 hrs now. Woo-hoo!
I think I need to get the prop balanced; engine feels rougher than I remember it.
Not affected by mixture or carb heat, and EGT's and CHT's are all nominal.
Maybe my elastomeric mounts have bottomed out or something. Also noticed the
runway was really mushy today after last night's rain. I hit a section of grass
on my takeoff roll that felt like flypaper; wasn't sure I was going to be
able to unstick it and pull it off.
Len, you can come visit now; we sold the last of the ten puppies, so the coast
is clear. All we need is a day with no wind ;-)
-Stormy
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| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
Yes, this 50 nm circle is very small in an RV. I'm glad the end is in
sight. I still have a couple things to do: loading more weight in the back
to see how that feels, spins, etc. I practiced x-winds and spins in the
Decathlon today. The fantastic visibility makes it all the more fun........
I'm a little concerned about the Barrows Special Edition engine, it's still
burning almost a qt per five hours.
I had my prop balanced at Burlington. I can feel the difference.
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: SportAV8R(at)aol.com [mailto:SportAV8R(at)aol.com]
> Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 6:17 PM
> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Flying Friday
>
>
>
> -->
>
> It was a good day to be up. 3.9 hours today and 31.4 total now.......
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry(at)BowenAero.com
>
> That's a lot of time in the saddle, Larry. Especially on a
> 50 nm leash. Good going. I hope it is all productive and
> routine. I managed to log time all three days this weekend;
> I'm up over 450 hrs now. Woo-hoo!
>
> I think I need to get the prop balanced; engine feels rougher
> than I remember it. Not affected by mixture or carb heat,
> and EGT's and CHT's are all nominal. Maybe my elastomeric
> mounts have bottomed out or something. Also noticed the
> runway was really mushy today after last night's rain. I hit
> a section of grass on my takeoff roll that felt like
> flypaper; wasn't sure I was going to be able to unstick it
> and pull it off.
>
> Len, you can come visit now; we sold the last of the ten
> puppies, so the coast is clear. All we need is a day with no wind ;-)
>
> -Stormy
>
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| From: | "Ed Anderson" <eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Flying Friday |
Larry if you don't mind me asking - who did you get to balance your prop - I
presume you are talking about dynamic balancing of the prop on the engine.
I have a new 76x88 wooden prop that I will want to get dynamically balanced
in the near future.
Thanks
Ed Anderson
eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Flying Friday
>
> Yes, this 50 nm circle is very small in an RV. I'm glad the end is in
> sight. I still have a couple things to do: loading more weight in the
back
> to see how that feels, spins, etc. I practiced x-winds and spins in the
> Decathlon today. The fantastic visibility makes it all the more
fun........
>
> I'm a little concerned about the Barrows Special Edition engine, it's
still
> burning almost a qt per five hours.
>
> I had my prop balanced at Burlington. I can feel the difference.
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry(at)BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: SportAV8R(at)aol.com [mailto:SportAV8R(at)aol.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 6:17 PM
> > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> > Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Flying Friday
> >
> >
> >
> > -->
> >
> > It was a good day to be up. 3.9 hours today and 31.4 total now.......
> >
> > -
> > Larry Bowen
> > Larry(at)BowenAero.com
> >
> > That's a lot of time in the saddle, Larry. Especially on a
> > 50 nm leash. Good going. I hope it is all productive and
> > routine. I managed to log time all three days this weekend;
> > I'm up over 450 hrs now. Woo-hoo!
> >
> > I think I need to get the prop balanced; engine feels rougher
> > than I remember it. Not affected by mixture or carb heat,
> > and EGT's and CHT's are all nominal. Maybe my elastomeric
> > mounts have bottomed out or something. Also noticed the
> > runway was really mushy today after last night's rain. I hit
> > a section of grass on my takeoff roll that felt like
> > flypaper; wasn't sure I was going to be able to unstick it
> > and pull it off.
> >
> > Len, you can come visit now; we sold the last of the ten
> > puppies, so the coast is clear. All we need is a day with no wind ;-)
> >
> > -Stormy
> >
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| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
H & H prop at Burlington (BUY). It cost $65 for them to tell me it was
already in balance (0.15 IPS, anything less than 0.2 is considered in
balance). They said we can try to get it even better, but the price goes up
to $250 if they start adding "wieghts". I was already planning on spending
the $250, so I told him to go ahead. So they added the $185 wieght to the
flywheel (looked a lot like a bolt and washer to me.) and got it down to
0.05 IPS. It took less than an hour to do.
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ed Anderson [mailto:eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com]
> Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 7:19 PM
> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Flying Friday
>
> -->
>
> Larry if you don't mind me asking - who did you get to
> balance your prop - I presume you are talking about dynamic
> balancing of the prop on the engine.
> I have a new 76x88 wooden prop that I will want to get
> dynamically balanced in the near future.
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Ed Anderson
> eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
> To:
> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Flying Friday
>
>
>
> >
> > Yes, this 50 nm circle is very small in an RV. I'm glad
> the end is in
> > sight. I still have a couple things to do: loading more
> weight in the
> back
> > to see how that feels, spins, etc. I practiced x-winds and
> spins in
> > the Decathlon today. The fantastic visibility makes it all the more
> fun........
> >
> > I'm a little concerned about the Barrows Special Edition
> engine, it's
> still
> > burning almost a qt per five hours.
> >
> > I had my prop balanced at Burlington. I can feel the difference.
> >
> > -
> > Larry Bowen
> > Larry(at)BowenAero.com
> > http://BowenAero.com
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: SportAV8R(at)aol.com [mailto:SportAV8R(at)aol.com]
> > > Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 6:17 PM
> > > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> > > Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Flying Friday
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -->
> > >
> > > It was a good day to be up. 3.9 hours today and 31.4
> total now.......
> > >
> > > -
> > > Larry Bowen
> > > Larry(at)BowenAero.com
> > >
> > > That's a lot of time in the saddle, Larry. Especially on a 50 nm
> > > leash. Good going. I hope it is all productive and routine. I
> > > managed to log time all three days this weekend; I'm up
> over 450 hrs
> > > now. Woo-hoo!
> > >
> > > I think I need to get the prop balanced; engine feels
> rougher than I
> > > remember it. Not affected by mixture or carb heat, and EGT's and
> > > CHT's are all nominal. Maybe my elastomeric mounts have bottomed
> > > out or something. Also noticed the runway was really mushy today
> > > after last night's rain. I hit a section of grass on my takeoff
> > > roll that felt like flypaper; wasn't sure I was going to
> be able to
> > > unstick it and pull it off.
> > >
> > > Len, you can come visit now; we sold the last of the ten
> puppies, so
> > > the coast is clear. All we need is a day with no wind ;-)
> > >
> > > -Stormy
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| From: | TWOBARBEE(at)wmconnect.com |
| Subject: | Re: Flying Friday |
Hi Guys, You might like to check with Wendell Hall in Cheraw, SC. He balanced
my RV6 a little over a year ago for $100.00. It took a small bolt and washer
also. Hall Aviation 843 537 6423. Mike Barbee
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
Neat stuff:
http://redbullcopilot.com/
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
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| Subject: | Re: Flying Friday |
In a message dated 11/28/04 6:17:41 PM Eastern Standard Time,
SportAV8R(at)aol.com writes:
Len, you can come visit now; we sold the last of the ten puppies, so the
coast is clear. All we need is a day with no wind ;-)
-Stormy
Great ... I will show my face up there again !!! All the lousy ECU football
games are over now ... I hate being a loyal alumni ... really hurt this
weekend in Charlotte (NCSU 52 ECU 14) and it wasn't that close !!!
Now I only have flying and hunting to take up my time !!
Len
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| Subject: | Oil temp dropping to min. |
| From: | "Linzel Gray Civ 43 CES/CECP" <Gray.Linzel(at)pope.af.mil> |
In really cold weather the oil temp would barely get over 100 degrees on
my 0-320. I built a sliding door to block airflow through the oil cooler
that operates from the cockpit. I usually start every flight with it
closed to speed warm up and then open as temp passes 160. In the winter
I sometimes never have to open it. The door is on the down stream
(warm) side of the cooler so some cold air is always around or seeping
through cooler.
Gray Linzel
RV-3
-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Heathco [mailto:cheathco(at)comcast.net]
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Oil temp dropping to min.
Last time I was able to get up, I noticed oil temp was lower than norm,
Today able to get up again and it never got but just above min. I would
intuitivly guess it would be more likely the sender than the guage, but
I
would like to know if anyone has had this problem? charlie (RV6A)
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From: "Linzel Gray Civ 43 CES/CECP" Gray.Linzel(at)pope.af.mil
Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Oil temp dropping to min.
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| From: | "Charles Heathco" <cheathco(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Oil temp dropping to min. |
What is the optimum temp for the oil? charlie Heathco
----- Original Message -----
From: "Linzel Gray Civ 43 CES/CECP" <Gray.Linzel(at)pope.af.mil>
Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Oil temp dropping to min.
>
>
> In really cold weather the oil temp would barely get over 100 degrees on
> my 0-320. I built a sliding door to block airflow through the oil cooler
> that operates from the cockpit. I usually start every flight with it
> closed to speed warm up and then open as temp passes 160. In the winter
> I sometimes never have to open it. The door is on the down stream
> (warm) side of the cooler so some cold air is always around or seeping
> through cooler.
>
> Gray Linzel
> RV-3
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charles Heathco [mailto:cheathco(at)comcast.net]
> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Oil temp dropping to min.
>
>
> Last time I was able to get up, I noticed oil temp was lower than norm,
>
> Today able to get up again and it never got but just above min. I would
> intuitivly guess it would be more likely the sender than the guage, but
> I
> would like to know if anyone has had this problem? charlie (RV6A)
>
>
>
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| From: | Rique.Gwin(at)hurlburt.af.mil |
| Subject: | Oil temp dropping to min. |
The maintenance manuals I've read on the subject suggest 165 is needed to
rid the oil of residuals. Mine always runs down in the 140s so I
intentionally setup a high power low airspeed climb to heat things up a bit
for each flight, then combine with more frequent oil changes. This is my
non-material solution. I like the oil cooler door idea however.
Rique J. Gwin, Maj
AFSOC/XPRM Mobility Requirements
DSN 579-5225, COMM: (850) 884-5225
Cell: (850) 543-1134
-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Heathco [mailto:cheathco(at)comcast.net]
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Oil temp dropping to min.
What is the optimum temp for the oil? charlie Heathco
----- Original Message -----
From: "Linzel Gray Civ 43 CES/CECP" <Gray.Linzel(at)pope.af.mil>
Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Oil temp dropping to min.
>
>
> In really cold weather the oil temp would barely get over 100 degrees on
> my 0-320. I built a sliding door to block airflow through the oil cooler
> that operates from the cockpit. I usually start every flight with it
> closed to speed warm up and then open as temp passes 160. In the winter
> I sometimes never have to open it. The door is on the down stream
> (warm) side of the cooler so some cold air is always around or seeping
> through cooler.
>
> Gray Linzel
> RV-3
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charles Heathco [mailto:cheathco(at)comcast.net]
> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Oil temp dropping to min.
>
>
> Last time I was able to get up, I noticed oil temp was lower than norm,
>
> Today able to get up again and it never got but just above min. I would
> intuitivly guess it would be more likely the sender than the guage, but
> I
> would like to know if anyone has had this problem? charlie (RV6A)
>
>
>
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| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
| Subject: | Oil temp dropping to min. |
180ish is the goal, I think.
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charles Heathco [mailto:cheathco(at)comcast.net]
> Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 3:49 PM
> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Oil temp dropping to min.
>
> -->
>
> What is the optimum temp for the oil? charlie Heathco
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Linzel Gray Civ 43 CES/CECP" <Gray.Linzel(at)pope.af.mil>
> To:
> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Oil temp dropping to min.
>
>
> CES/CECP"
> >
> >
> > In really cold weather the oil temp would barely get over
> 100 degrees on
> > my 0-320. I built a sliding door to block airflow through
> the oil cooler
> > that operates from the cockpit. I usually start every
> flight with it
> > closed to speed warm up and then open as temp passes 160.
> In the winter
> > I sometimes never have to open it. The door is on the down stream
> > (warm) side of the cooler so some cold air is always around
> or seeping
> > through cooler.
> >
> > Gray Linzel
> > RV-3
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Charles Heathco [mailto:cheathco(at)comcast.net]
> > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Oil temp dropping to min.
> >
> >
> > Last time I was able to get up, I noticed oil temp was
> lower than norm,
> >
> > Today able to get up again and it never got but just above
> min. I would
> > intuitivly guess it would be more likely the sender than
> the guage, but
> > I
> > would like to know if anyone has had this problem? charlie (RV6A)
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
There was an RV-8 at Salisbury, Rowan County airport Sunday, about 1:30 PM
doing touch and goes. I didn't recognize it. Was it someone on the list?
-
Larry Bowen, RV-8 33.1 hrs
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
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| From: | "Radomir Zaric" <vitez(at)carolina.rr.com> |
Scott, maybe?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry
Bowen
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: RV-8 @ RUQ
There was an RV-8 at Salisbury, Rowan County airport Sunday, about 1:30 PM
doing touch and goes. I didn't recognize it. Was it someone on the list?
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
That was my guess, but I don't know.....
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Radomir Zaric [mailto:vitez(at)carolina.rr.com]
> Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 8:31 PM
> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: RV-8 @ RUQ
>
> -->
>
> Scott, maybe?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On
> Behalf Of Larry Bowen
> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: RV-8 @ RUQ
>
> -->
>
> There was an RV-8 at Salisbury, Rowan County airport Sunday,
> about 1:30 PM doing touch and goes. I didn't recognize it.
> Was it someone on the list?
>
>
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| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
Lookin' good, Charlie.
http://bowenaero.com/copper/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=&pos=0
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
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| Subject: | Fwd: RV Lakeland Fly In |
SERV:
Just got this back from Laura Crook who helps put on the January RV Fly In
in Lakeland ... thought TeamRV was going to put on a formaiton clinic but they
are not as you can see below.
Several of us are planning to go down for the weekend ... all are welcome to
join up. We are flying down on Friday morning January 14th ... camping on
the Sun N Fun site and heading home on Sunday.
Len
I thought they were , too. I just received email today and they are not
able to make it for 2005.
Sun n Fun will update their web page asap. I am out of town and cannot
update the VAF page until I get home Saturday.
This is the OFFICIAL WORD so please share it with your RV friends, We are
still having the fly in, of course.
In fact, I am looking for volunteers to do 1 hour forums on Saturday
afternoon. Are you interested or can you suggest anybody?
Thanks,
Laura Crook
Real World Solutions, Inc
www.rotaryaviation.com
386/935-2973
13B Powered RV-4 1350 hours of Hmmmm
20B Powered RV-8 in gestation mode
From: "Laura Crook" <laura_crook(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: RV Lakeland Fly In
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 20:33:56 -0500
I thought they were , too. I just received email today and they are not
able to make it for 2005.
Sun n Fun will update their web page asap. I am out of town and cannot
update the VAF page until I get home Saturday.
This is the OFFICIAL WORD so please share it with your RV friends, We are
still having the fly in, of course.
In fact, I am looking for volunteers to do 1 hour forums on Saturday
afternoon. Are you interested or can you suggest anybody?
Thanks,
Laura Crook
Real World Solutions, Inc
www.rotaryaviation.com
386/935-2973
13B Powered RV-4 1350 hours of Hmmmm
20B Powered RV-8 in gestation mode
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| Subject: | Re: Charlie's 6A |
In a message dated 11/29/04 10:26:50 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Larry(at)bowenaero.com writes:
Lookin' good, Charlie.
http://bowenaero.com/copper/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=&pos=0
Great looking plane ...
Len
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Just got the acknowledgement for the patches. Delivery date says 12/17/04
but with any luck I may have them for the Xmas fly in at Stantons BBQ on Dec.
11th ... fingers crossed !!!
Len
________________________________________________________________________________
What kind of fuel burn are you guys showing per hour? I am trying to
calibrate my Rocky Mtn uMonitor for fuel flow and fuel remaining ... my EI fuel
gauge is calibrated and very accurate. I have never tried to get the fuel flow
calibrated .. but on that quest now.
I flew 2.9 hours since the last fill up ...took 20.2 gallons to fill back up
...
I have to be burning more than 7 gallons per hour ....
I think the timer/hobbs on the uMonitor might be off ... I am going to
compare to the timer on the GPS but I don't think they will agree since the
uMonitor works off rpm for timing ..
Len Leggette, RV-8A
Greensboro, N.C. N910LL
288 hrs
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| From: | "BOB martin" <libertyva(at)msn.com> |
Len,
I'm sure the Lycomings are burning the normal 10-13 gph.......
but we track the hobbs meter in a notebook to log time and oil usage, etc
and we only show about 7 gph ....based on hobbs reading.........
so the taxi, cruise and desent must really offset the takeoff and climb
rates.
What ever it is.........I like it!!!!!!!
Cause thats whats comes out of my checkbook per hour logged!
Bob Martin, Louisa County RV-6 ....ps..Larrys -6 is the same too...
>
>
>What kind of fuel burn are you guys showing per hour? I am trying to
>calibrate my Rocky Mtn uMonitor for fuel flow and fuel remaining ... my EI
>fuel
>gauge is calibrated and very accurate. I have never tried to get the fuel
>flow
>calibrated .. but on that quest now.
>
>I flew 2.9 hours since the last fill up ...took 20.2 gallons to fill back
>up
>...
>
>I have to be burning more than 7 gallons per hour ....
>
>I think the timer/hobbs on the uMonitor might be off ... I am going to
>compare to the timer on the GPS but I don't think they will agree since the
>uMonitor works off rpm for timing ..
>
>Len Leggette, RV-8A
>Greensboro, N.C. N910LL
>288 hrs
>
>
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| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
How does the hobbs function of the umonitor work? My EIS can be set to
only start "the clock" when first going above a certain RPM. I forget now
what mine is set at...maybe 1200 or something.
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
Lenleg(at)aol.com said:
>
> What kind of fuel burn are you guys showing per hour? I am trying to
> calibrate my Rocky Mtn uMonitor for fuel flow and fuel remaining ... my EI
> fuel
> gauge is calibrated and very accurate. I have never tried to get the fuel
> flow
> calibrated .. but on that quest now.
>
> I flew 2.9 hours since the last fill up ...took 20.2 gallons to fill back
> up
> ...
>
> I have to be burning more than 7 gallons per hour ....
>
> I think the timer/hobbs on the uMonitor might be off ... I am going to
> compare to the timer on the GPS but I don't think they will agree since
> the
> uMonitor works off rpm for timing ..
>
> Len Leggette, RV-8A
> Greensboro, N.C. N910LL
> 288 hrs
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
In a message dated 11/30/04 1:49:54 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Larry(at)bowenaero.com writes:
How does the hobbs function of the umonitor work? My EIS can be set to
only start "the clock" when first going above a certain RPM. I forget now
what mine is set at...maybe 1200 or something.
-
Larry Bowen
You put in a certain cruise rpm ... say 2400 and at the rpm it will record 1
hour of time ... if flying at 1200 it will record 30 min. That is how the
manual states it.
Len
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com> |
IMHO the fuel burn must be calculated using the EIS time on engine in my
case this is set to 1500 RPM. If I'm on a X-country when I'm always above
1500 RPM I get around 8-9.5, If I'm doing a lot of pattern work I get less
than 7.
Steve Glasgow
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Burn
>
>
> How does the hobbs function of the umonitor work? My EIS can be set to
> only start "the clock" when first going above a certain RPM. I forget now
> what mine is set at...maybe 1200 or something.
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry(at)BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
>
> Lenleg(at)aol.com said:
>>
>> What kind of fuel burn are you guys showing per hour? I am trying to
>> calibrate my Rocky Mtn uMonitor for fuel flow and fuel remaining ... my
>> EI
>> fuel
>> gauge is calibrated and very accurate. I have never tried to get the
>> fuel
>> flow
>> calibrated .. but on that quest now.
>>
>> I flew 2.9 hours since the last fill up ...took 20.2 gallons to fill back
>> up
>> ...
>>
>> I have to be burning more than 7 gallons per hour ....
>>
>> I think the timer/hobbs on the uMonitor might be off ... I am going to
>> compare to the timer on the GPS but I don't think they will agree since
>> the
>> uMonitor works off rpm for timing ..
>>
>> Len Leggette, RV-8A
>> Greensboro, N.C. N910LL
>> 288 hrs
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| From: | Charlie England <ceengland(at)bellsouth.net> |
Lenleg(at)aol.com wrote:
>
>What kind of fuel burn are you guys showing per hour? I am trying to
>calibrate my Rocky Mtn uMonitor for fuel flow and fuel remaining ... my EI fuel
>gauge is calibrated and very accurate. I have never tried to get the fuel flow
>calibrated .. but on that quest now.
>
>I flew 2.9 hours since the last fill up ...took 20.2 gallons to fill back up
>...
>
>I have to be burning more than 7 gallons per hour ....
>
>I think the timer/hobbs on the uMonitor might be off ... I am going to
>compare to the timer on the GPS but I don't think they will agree since the
>uMonitor works off rpm for timing ..
>
>Len Leggette, RV-8A
>Greensboro, N.C. N910LL
>288 hrs
>
Hi Len,
A couple of things might be conspiring to confuse the issue.
If you did numerous takeoff/landings, your burn will be much lower than
at cruise because you are in the pattern at reduced power much longer
that you are at full power for climb (except for a long climb for high
altitude cross country, of course). Also, most people don't run at
anywhere near 75% power at cruise. I've flown 160hp engines in 3
different homebuilts + 1 factory plane & they all burned around 9gph
when flown at 75%. One of them was injected with a c/s prop & when run
at 2400rpm up at 8000', it only burned around 7.3gph (but that ain't
75% power). I've had 1 180hp c/s prop & it burned 10gph. All had much
lower burn numbers when there were a lot of t/o & landings on a tank of
gas, often as low as 6.5-7.5gph.
Check the Lyc Manual to see what 75% power settings really are (most
people are shocked). Fill both tanks, take off on one & climb to
~8,000', lean for cruise operation & set cruise power. Start a timer (or
look at your watch) & switch tanks. Fly for say, 1/2 hour without
changing altitude, throttle or rpm settings & switch back to the other
tank. Return to the airport & top off the 'cruise' tank. Now do the math
& you know your real 75% cruise fuel burn. Should be around .45*actual
hp/6. For a 160, 9gph; for a 180, 10gph. Slightly better if injected
and/or electronic ignition.
Don't know about the uMonitor, but a mechanical tach's hour meter is
definitely affected by rpm.
Charlie
(It's good that you didn't come down for the flyin on the 13th; ceiling
& vis. was so bad I didn't make it the 20 miles from here to there.)
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: SERV Patches |
Maybe you could find out where my black shirt is also.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: <Lenleg(at)aol.com>
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: SERV Patches
>
> Just got the acknowledgement for the patches. Delivery date says
> 12/17/04
> but with any luck I may have them for the Xmas fly in at Stantons BBQ on
> Dec.
> 11th ... fingers crossed !!!
>
> Len
>
>
>
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| From: | bill crothers <bill28104(at)yahoo.com> |
been burning 7.2/hr on a 150 E2D for yrs, bill c.
--- Charlie England wrote:
> England
>
> Lenleg(at)aol.com wrote:
>
> Lenleg(at)aol.com
> >
> >What kind of fuel burn are you guys showing per
> hour? I am trying to
> >calibrate my Rocky Mtn uMonitor for fuel flow and
> fuel remaining ... my EI fuel
> >gauge is calibrated and very accurate. I have
> never tried to get the fuel flow
> >calibrated .. but on that quest now.
> >
> >I flew 2.9 hours since the last fill up ...took
> 20.2 gallons to fill back up
> >...
> >
> >I have to be burning more than 7 gallons per hour
> ....
> >
> >I think the timer/hobbs on the uMonitor might be
> off ... I am going to
> >compare to the timer on the GPS but I don't think
> they will agree since the
> >uMonitor works off rpm for timing ..
> >
> >Len Leggette, RV-8A
> >Greensboro, N.C. N910LL
> >288 hrs
> >
>
> Hi Len,
>
> A couple of things might be conspiring to confuse
> the issue.
>
> If you did numerous takeoff/landings, your burn will
> be much lower than
> at cruise because you are in the pattern at reduced
> power much longer
> that you are at full power for climb (except for a
> long climb for high
> altitude cross country, of course). Also, most
> people don't run at
> anywhere near 75% power at cruise. I've flown 160hp
> engines in 3
> different homebuilts + 1 factory plane & they all
> burned around 9gph
> when flown at 75%. One of them was injected with a
> c/s prop & when run
> at 2400rpm up at 8000', it only burned around
> 7.3gph (but that ain't
> 75% power). I've had 1 180hp c/s prop & it burned
> 10gph. All had much
> lower burn numbers when there were a lot of t/o &
> landings on a tank of
> gas, often as low as 6.5-7.5gph.
>
> Check the Lyc Manual to see what 75% power settings
> really are (most
> people are shocked). Fill both tanks, take off on
> one & climb to
> ~8,000', lean for cruise operation & set cruise
> power. Start a timer (or
> look at your watch) & switch tanks. Fly for say, 1/2
> hour without
> changing altitude, throttle or rpm settings & switch
> back to the other
> tank. Return to the airport & top off the 'cruise'
> tank. Now do the math
> & you know your real 75% cruise fuel burn. Should be
> around .45*actual
> hp/6. For a 160, 9gph; for a 180, 10gph. Slightly
> better if injected
> and/or electronic ignition.
>
> Don't know about the uMonitor, but a mechanical
> tach's hour meter is
> definitely affected by rpm.
>
> Charlie
> (It's good that you didn't come down for the flyin
> on the 13th; ceiling
> & vis. was so bad I didn't make it the 20 miles from
> here to there.)
>
>
>
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| From: | "Linzel Gray Civ 43 CES/CECP" <Gray.Linzel(at)pope.af.mil> |
I believe that my carbureted, 150hp 0320, at 8,000 feet, 2,750 rpm, full
throttle is putting out about 75%power. I spend little time at that
setting. Based on math below about 8.4 gph.
Gray
-----Original Message-----
From: Charlie England [mailto:ceengland(at)bellsouth.net]
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Burn
Lenleg(at)aol.com wrote:
>
>What kind of fuel burn are you guys showing per hour? I am trying to
>calibrate my Rocky Mtn uMonitor for fuel flow and fuel remaining ... my
EI fuel
>gauge is calibrated and very accurate. I have never tried to get the
fuel flow
>calibrated .. but on that quest now.
>
>I flew 2.9 hours since the last fill up ...took 20.2 gallons to fill
back up
>...
>
>I have to be burning more than 7 gallons per hour ....
>
>I think the timer/hobbs on the uMonitor might be off ... I am going to
>compare to the timer on the GPS but I don't think they will agree since
the
>uMonitor works off rpm for timing ..
>
>Len Leggette, RV-8A
>Greensboro, N.C. N910LL
>288 hrs
>
Hi Len,
A couple of things might be conspiring to confuse the issue.
If you did numerous takeoff/landings, your burn will be much lower than
at cruise because you are in the pattern at reduced power much longer
that you are at full power for climb (except for a long climb for high
altitude cross country, of course). Also, most people don't run at
anywhere near 75% power at cruise. I've flown 160hp engines in 3
different homebuilts + 1 factory plane & they all burned around 9gph
when flown at 75%. One of them was injected with a c/s prop & when run
at 2400rpm up at 8000', it only burned around 7.3gph (but that ain't
75% power). I've had 1 180hp c/s prop & it burned 10gph. All had much
lower burn numbers when there were a lot of t/o & landings on a tank of
gas, often as low as 6.5-7.5gph.
Check the Lyc Manual to see what 75% power settings really are (most
people are shocked). Fill both tanks, take off on one & climb to
~8,000', lean for cruise operation & set cruise power. Start a timer (or
look at your watch) & switch tanks. Fly for say, 1/2 hour without
changing altitude, throttle or rpm settings & switch back to the other
tank. Return to the airport & top off the 'cruise' tank. Now do the math
& you know your real 75% cruise fuel burn. Should be around .45*actual
hp/6. For a 160, 9gph; for a 180, 10gph. Slightly better if injected
and/or electronic ignition.
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: SERV Patches |
In a message dated 11/30/04 5:26:38 PM Eastern Standard Time,
willfly(at)carolina.rr.com writes:
Maybe you could find out where my black shirt is also.
Steve
I am forwarding this message to Wayne8 to see if he knows anything ... to
tell you the truth ... rather obvious ... I totally forgot about it ... so sorry
!! You should have rattled my cage sooner !!
Len
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | SERV Destinations |
| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
A message in the RV list this morning mentioned Rough River Park in KY.
Looks really nice. Anyone ever been? It's now on my list of places to
go! Only 1.5 Hrs from home.
http://google.com/search?q=Rough+River+State+Park
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | DWENSING(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: SERV Destinations |
In a message dated 12/1/04 9:48:53 AM Eastern Standard Time,
Larry(at)bowenaero.com writes:
> A message in the RV list this morning mentioned Rough River Park in KY.
> Looks really nice. Anyone ever been? It's now on my list of places to
> go! Only 1.5 Hrs from home.
>
Larry,
Yes. A few years ago but I would guess it has not changed. Went for their
annual Fly-In. Really nice with overnite lodge accomadations/restaurant or
camping. If I have my 40 hours flown off when you go I'd like to go with you.
Dale Ensing
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: SERV Destinations |
| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
Great, we'll have to do that!!
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
DWENSING(at)aol.com said:
>
> In a message dated 12/1/04 9:48:53 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> Larry(at)bowenaero.com writes:
>
>
>> A message in the RV list this morning mentioned Rough River Park in KY.
>> Looks really nice. Anyone ever been? It's now on my list of places to
>> go! Only 1.5 Hrs from home.
>>
>
> Larry,
> Yes. A few years ago but I would guess it has not changed. Went for their
> annual Fly-In. Really nice with overnite lodge accomadations/restaurant or
> camping. If I have my 40 hours flown off when you go I'd like to go with
> you.
> Dale Ensing
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | RGray67968(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: SERV Destinations |
Larry,
A bunch of us Ohio Valley RVators flew their last year.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OhioValleyRVators/
Nice place! We just went for the day but it is a great place for a weekend
getaway.....boating, fishing, golf......like a little honeymoon.....with the
guys.....ha ha.......or just take the wife. Might be nice to do a group thing too.
Right around the corner in your RV.
Also keep Dana's little get together in mind for next year too. It was at the
end of February in Kentucky......must have been about 90 or so RV's show up.
Indy Gang, Team RV, TVBG, SERV, and Ohio Valley RVators.
Rick at the Buffalo Farm
A message in the RV list this morning mentioned Rough River Park in KY.
Looks really nice. Anyone ever been? It's now on my list of places to
go! Only 1.5 Hrs from home.
http://google.com/search?q=Rough+River+State+Park
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: SERV Destinations |
Sound like a great destination. Airport ID 2I3. Only open April to
October. Count me in!
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: SERV Destinations
>
>
> A message in the RV list this morning mentioned Rough River Park in KY.
> Looks really nice. Anyone ever been? It's now on my list of places to
> go! Only 1.5 Hrs from home.
>
> http://google.com/search?q=Rough+River+State+Park
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry(at)BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | SportAV8R(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: SERV Destinations |
Found Rough River a while back on the $100 hamburger website and made a note of
it for future reference... looks NICE :-)
-Stormy
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Rique.Gwin(at)hurlburt.af.mil |
Servers,
I have to write to tell everyone traveling thru So GA about a great fuel
stop I found today. Moultrie, GA (MGR)is a great stop! Gas is 40 cents
less than any stop around here, full serve, extremely helpful (they'll offer
you hot coffee, cake, cookies, popcorn, or even some soup while you wait,
all complimentary). If you are passing thru this area this is a must stop!
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Saturday - Greenville, NC |
Guys:
I need to go down to Greenville to take some computer stuff to my son at ECU
...Wayne8A is going to make the trip ... anyone else want to join up ?
Larry - you can fly as far east as allowed !!!
We could stop in and meet Dennis and Lori Milsap at Farmville (NC) ...
(Dennis ... you guys going to be around on Saturday???)
Len
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
| Subject: | Saturday - Greenville, NC |
Possibly. I may be going to HKY. Not sure yet.....
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lenleg(at)aol.com [mailto:Lenleg(at)aol.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 9:36 PM
> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Saturday - Greenville, NC
>
>
> Guys:
>
> I need to go down to Greenville to take some computer stuff
> to my son at ECU
> ...Wayne8A is going to make the trip ... anyone else want to
> join up ?
> Larry - you can fly as far east as allowed !!!
>
> We could stop in and meet Dennis and Lori Milsap at Farmville
> (NC) ...
> (Dennis ... you guys going to be around on Saturday???)
>
> Len
>
>
> =========
> =========
> Matronics Forums.
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> =========
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "James E. Clark" <james(at)nextupventures.com> |
| Subject: | Saturday - Greenville, NC |
Len,
I think that "Speedy" (Danny Kite) is planning to fly some Young Eagles in
Greenville on Saturday. I told him I would try to be there (around 9 AM) if
possible (good weather and my partner doesn't plan to fly elsewhere).
We also have our annual "Fall/Winter Do-Little Fly-in" at Do-Little Field
(just south of Columbia) starting around noon on Saturday (burgers, dogs and
flying "activities").
Just and additional something to consider if the weather is good.
James
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> Lenleg(at)aol.com
> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 9:36 PM
> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Saturday - Greenville, NC
>
>
> Guys:
>
> I need to go down to Greenville to take some computer stuff to my
> son at ECU
> ...Wayne8A is going to make the trip ... anyone else want to join up ?
> Larry - you can fly as far east as allowed !!!
>
> We could stop in and meet Dennis and Lori Milsap at Farmville (NC) ...
> (Dennis ... you guys going to be around on Saturday???)
>
> Len
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Rad Z <microsmurfer(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | shoulder harness |
Hi folks,
Just curious about the shoulder harnesses -- are yours
V or Y-type? any recommendations for one over the
other?
Thanks!
Radomir
__________________________________
http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: shoulder harness |
I guess you would say V type. 5 Point anyway.
Steve Glasgow
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rad Z" <microsmurfer(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: shoulder harness
>
> Hi folks,
>
> Just curious about the shoulder harnesses -- are yours
> V or Y-type? any recommendations for one over the
> other?
>
> Thanks!
> Radomir
>
>
>
> __________________________________
> http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Fwd: Fw: The Rutan Space ship |
Talks(at)matronics.com, about(at)matronics.com, hormones(at)matronics.com,
for(at)matronics.com, human(at)matronics.com, growth(at)matronics.com
For us old aviators, not as sophisticated as I thought. Imagine flying ball
and needle at warp 10. I've met Dick Rutan, Burt's older brother who flew
the Voyager around the world without refueling. Dick flew F-100's in Viet=20
Nam and is a typical fighter pilot, "You can tell he's a fighter pilot, but
you can't tell him much."
Subject: Mike Melville - SpaceShipOne--Non FAC
Subject: Mike Melville He gave a 45 minute presentation to the Aircraft
Owners and Pilots Association conference in Long Beach on Thursday, and got a
several-minute standing ovation.
Since he was speaking to pilots, he didn't have to translate for the
"general public" or pull many punches. He spent almost half of his time going
over the flight controls and the entire cockpit layout inside of SpaceShipOne,
explaining how it is flown. I think this is the first time this has been
explained publicly in such detail, and it was amazing. There are actually
four separate flight regimes, and each is flown differently. Just after
launch, it flies like a piper cub, using a joystick and rudder pedals with
mechanical linkages to the controls (no hydraulic assists). When it goes
supersonic, the aerodynamic forces are too high to be able to move the stick,
and
the controls are subject to flutter. So they use an electrically powered
trim system, flown using the "top hat" switch on the joystick and a couple of
grips on the arm rest of the pilot's seat.
(There are backup switches to the left of the instrument panel, which had
to be used on one flight.) This moves the entire horizontal stabilizers,
not just the elevons on the trailing edges. Eventually, they get high enough
and the air gets thin enough that they can again use manual controls, although
the response is totally different than lower down. But that goes away as
they exit the atmosphere; the Reaction Control System nozzles are then used
for maneuvering in space. Coming back down, the pilot has to reverse the
sequence. There is no automated switchover of control systems; the pilot has
to remember to move from one system to the next at the right times.
The rudder pedals are not linked. Each controls one of the two vertical
stabilizer rudders separately. You can push both rudder pedals at the same
time, and get a fairly effective speed brake, with both rudders canted
outward. Push both fully forward and they engage the wheel brakes. But these
are not very effective and are only really useful for steering input during
rollout. The real brake is on the nose skid: a piece of maple wood, with the
grain aligned down the centerline of the airplane. He said it was the most
effective braking material they could find.
Stephen, we talked about G forces on Tuesday, and I got some of it wrong.=20
He says that he gets hit with about 3Gs kicking him backwards as soon as he
lights the rocket motor. He's supersonic within about 9 seconds later.
But he immediately starts to pull up into an almost vertical climb. So he
also gets over 4.3Gs pushing him down into his seat just from that maneuver.
The combined force is "very stressful" and Mike says it's "important not to
black out" at that point. He's going 1880 knots straight up within 70
seconds. On re-entry, the aircraft goes from being absolutely silent while in
space to generating a deafening roar as it hits the atmosphere again. He's
going about Mach 3.2 by that time, and has to survive about 5.5Gs for over=2030
seconds, and lesser G forces for longer than that, as it slows back down.=20
It sounds really intense, both as he explains it and on the radio.
A couple of interesting side notes: SpaceShipOne has a standard "N"
registration number; but it is licensed as an experimental "glider". Apparently
there was a huge bureaucratic hassle trying to license it as a rocket powered
spacecraft, which they just sidestepped by calling it a glider. I asked him if
it had a yaw string; he laughed and said that would have burned off. By the
way, the registration number is N328KF, where 328K is the number of Feet in
100km. (White Knight is N318SL - Burt Rutan's 318th design.)
Mike says that the flight director system (called a TINU) was developed
completely in-house by a couple of 28-year-old programmers, and is absolutely
fantastic to fly. That's why they don't need a yaw string. But I had heard
over the radio that Brian Binnie had re-booted the TINU just before the
landing approach during the X2 flight, and it took quite a while for it to
come back up. So I asked Mike what that was about. He says that during
re-entry, the TINU loses its GPS lock. So it keeps trying to go back to catch
up,
re-interpolate and compensate for the missing data, and this keeps it a
little behind in its actual position calculations. The pilot has no
straight-ahead vision at all, so they have a real issue landing: they can't see
the
runway! The way they do it is to fly directly down the runway at 9000 feet;
then they do a (military style) break and fly a full 360 degree pattern right
to the landing. The TINU gives the pilot a "blue line" to follow and a
target airspeed (which produces a given rate of descent). If the pilot
follows the blue line, right to the break point and through the two 180 degree
turns, it will put him right onto the runway at what ever touchdown point
he selects. But the TINU has to be absolutely current when this is going
on. So at something above 15,000 feet they reboot the TINU and get it
re-synched with the GPS satellites again before setting up for the landing!
He also talked in detail about the rocket motor, and had photos of its
insides after firing. The nozzle throat actually ablates as the motor burns,
enlarging the interior throat diameter as the burn progresses. He described
the problem they had on the June 21 flight: The rocket motor nozzle was skewed
by about =BD degree to one side. This generated a surprisingly high lateral
torque trying to turn the aircraft. If it had been up or down pitch rather
than lateral, the controls could have handled it; but the lateral yawing
forces were too great for Mike to compensate as the atmosphere thinned. The
result was that he was pretty far off course. Mike says he reached apogee,
rolled the spacecraft over, and was surprised to see the Palmdale VOR directly
beneath him. That was
30 miles away from Mojave and a long glide home. He says its amazing how
fast a relatively small deviation can produce large distances when you're
going Mach 3!
For one of the static burn tests, they had fire and safety crews all
standing a mile away, ready to duck if anything went wrong. In the middle of
the
test, Mike and Burt Rutan walked up to the front of the motor assembly and
felt the pressure vessel that contains the N2O. Mike knew he was going to
have this same thing strapped onto his back soon, anyway, and he wanted to
know how much it vibrated, how hot it got, and how loud it was. It was
deafening, literally. It turns out that, with the nozzles they use at high
altitudes, it's actually not that noisy inside the spacecraft. But he still
wears hearing protection.
Scaled Composites seem to have fabricated quite a bit of the rocket motor
themselves, including the N2O tank (which is also the structural core of the
spacecraft) and the nozzle casings. It would be interesting to hear from=20
Michael's friend exactly what parts SpaceDev designed and what they
manufactured.
W. Thomas Wall wtwall(at)lightview.biz
949-498-3305
From: "Bill C" <WDCANTRELL1(at)Comcast.net>
Subject: Fw: The Rutan Space ship
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 09:04:43 -0500
----- Original Message -----
From: Ray Hoey
; henry lederer ; John Yurosko ; Mary Drescher ; Nicholas Piscitelli
; nick carlucci ; paul ford ; Roy Horne ; susan roedel ; werner myer
Subject: Fw: The Rutan Space ship
----- Original Message -----
From: gbpilots(at)att.net
Subject: FW: The Rutan Space ship
-------------- Forwarded Message: --------------
From: "Steve McDonald" <stevemac65(at)earthlink.net>
To: "USNA65-Open"
Subject: The Rutan Space ship
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 20:50:45 +0000
For us old aviators, not as sophisticated as I thought. Imagine flying
ball and needle at warp 10. I've met Dick Rutan, Burt's older brother who flew
the Voyager around the world without refueling. Dick flew F-100's in Viet
Nam and is a typical fighter pilot, "You can tell he's a fighter pilot, but you
can't tell him much."
Subject: Mike Melville - SpaceShipOne--Non FAC
Subject: Mike Melville He gave a 45 minute presentation to the Aircraft
Owners and Pilots Association conference in Long Beach on Thursday, and got
a several-minute standing ovation.
Since he was speaking to pilots, he didn't have to translate for the "general
public" or pull many punches. He spent almost half of his time=20going
over the flight controls and the entire cockpit layout inside of SpaceShipOne,
explaining how it is flown. I think this is the first time this=20has been
explained publicly in such detail, and it was amazing. There are=20actually
four separate flight regimes, and each is flown differently. Just after
launch, it flies like a piper cub, using a joystick and rudder pedals with mechanical
linkages to the controls (no hydraulic assists). When it goes supersonic,
the aerodynamic forces are too high to be able to move the stick, and
the controls are subject to flutter. So they use an electrically powered trim
system, flown using the "top hat" switch on the joystick=20and a couple of
grips on the arm rest of the pilot's seat.
(There are backup switches to the left of the instrument panel, which
had to be used on one flight.) This moves the entire horizontal stabilizers,
not just the elevons on the trailing edges. Eventually, they get high enough
and the air gets thin enough that they can again use manual controls, although
the response is totally different than lower down. But that goes away as they
exit the atmosphere; the Reaction Control System nozzles are=20then used for
maneuvering in space. Coming back down, the pilot has to reverse the sequence.
There is no automated switchover of control systems; the pilot has to
remember to move from one system to the next at the right times.
The rudder pedals are not linked. Each controls one of the two vertical
stabilizer rudders separately. You can push both rudder pedals at the same
time, and get a fairly effective speed brake, with both rudders canted outward.
Push both fully forward and they engage the wheel brakes. But these are
not very effective and are only really useful for steering input during rollout.
The real brake is on the nose skid: a piece of maple wood, with the grain
aligned down the centerline of the airplane. He said it was the most effective
braking material they could find.
Stephen, we talked about G forces on Tuesday, and I got some of it=20wrong.
He says that he gets hit with about 3Gs kicking him backwards as soon
as he lights the rocket motor. He's supersonic within about 9 seconds later.
But he immediately starts to pull up into an almost vertical climb.=20 So
he also gets over 4.3Gs pushing him down into his seat just from that =20maneuver.
The combined force is "very stressful" and Mike says it's "important not
to black out" at that point. He's going 1880 knots straight up within 70 seconds.
On re-entry, the aircraft goes from being absolutely silent while in
space to generating a deafening roar as it hits the atmosphere=20again. He's
going about Mach 3.2 by that time, and has to survive about 5.5Gs for over 30
seconds, and lesser G forces for longer than that, as it slows back down.
It sounds really intense, both as he explains it and on the=20radio.
A couple of interesting side notes: SpaceShipOne has a standard "N" registration
number; but it is licensed as an experimental "glider". Apparently
there was a huge bureaucratic hassle trying to license it as a rocket powered
spacecraft, which they just sidestepped by calling it a glider. I asked him if
it had a yaw string; he laughed and said that would have burned off. By the
way, the registration number is N328KF, where 328K is the number of Feet in
100km. (White Knight is N318SL - Burt Rutan's 318th design.)
Mike says that the flight director system (called a TINU) was developed
completely in-house by a couple of 28-year-old programmers, and is absolutely
fantastic to fly. That's why they don't need a yaw string. But I=20had
heard over the radio that Brian Binnie had re-booted the TINU just before the
landing approach during the X2 flight, and it took quite a while for it to come
back up. So I asked Mike what that was about. He says that during re-entry,
the TINU loses its GPS lock. So it keeps trying to go back to catch up,
re-interpolate and compensate for the missing data, and this=20keeps it a little
behind in its actual position calculations. The pilot has no straight-ahead
vision at all, so they have a real issue landing: they=20 can't see the
runway! The way they do it is to fly directly down the runway at 9000 feet; then
they do a (military style) break and fly a full 360 degree pattern right to
the landing. The TINU gives the pilot a "blue line" to follow and a
target airspeed (which produces a given rate of descent). If the pilot
follows the blue line, right to the break point and through the two 180 degree
turns, it will put him right onto the runway at what ever touchdown point
he selects. But the TINU has to be absolutely current when this is going on.
So at something above 15,000 feet they reboot the TINU and get it re-synched
with the GPS satellites again before setting up for the landing!
He also talked in detail about the rocket motor, and had photos of=20its
insides after firing. The nozzle throat actually ablates as the motor=20burns,
enlarging the interior throat diameter as the burn progresses. He described
the problem they had on the June 21 flight: The rocket motor nozzle was skewed
by about =BD degree to one side. This generated a surprisingly high lateral
torque trying to turn the aircraft. If it had been up or down pitch rather
than lateral, the controls could have handled it; but the lateral yawing
forces were too great for Mike to compensate as the atmosphere thinned. The result
was that he was pretty far off course. Mike says he reached apogee, rolled
the spacecraft over, and was surprised to see the Palmdale VOR directly
beneath him. That was
30 miles away from Mojave and a long glide home. He says its amazing
how fast a relatively small deviation can produce large distances when you're
going Mach 3!
For one of the static burn tests, they had fire and safety crews all standing
a mile away, ready to duck if anything went wrong. In the middle of
the test, Mike and Burt Rutan walked up to the front of the motor assembly and
felt the pressure vessel that contains the N2O. Mike knew he was =20going to
have this same thing strapped onto his back soon, anyway, and he wanted to
know how much it vibrated, how hot it got, and how loud it was. It was deafening,
literally. It turns out that, with the nozzles they use at high altitudes,
it's actually not that noisy inside the spacecraft. But=20he still wears
hearing protection.
Scaled Composites seem to have fabricated quite a bit of the rocket motor
themselves, including the N2O tank (which is also the structural core of
the spacecraft) and the nozzle casings. It would be interesting to hear from
Michael's friend exactly what parts SpaceDev designed and what they manufactured.
W. Thomas Wall wtwall(at)lightview.biz
949-498-3305
----- Original Message -----
From: <A titlerayhoey(at)comcast.net ">Ray Hoey
Boch ; aippersbach(at)comcast.net ; bill furfari ; Dave Welch ; Ercoupe372122(at)aol.com ; henry lederer ; John Yurosko ; Mary
Drescher ; Nicholas Piscitelli ; nick carlucci ; paul ford
; Roy Horne ; susan roedel ; werner myer
Subject: Fw: The Rutan Space ship
----- Original Message -----
From: <A titlegbpilots(at)att.net ">gbpilots(at)att.net
Subject: FW: The Rutan Space ship
--------------
Forwarded Message: --------------
From: "Steve McDonald" stevemac65(at)earthlink.net
Subject: The Rutan Space ship
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 20:50:45 +0000
For us old
aviators, not as sophisticated as I thought. Imagine flying ball
and needle at warp 10. I've met Dick Rutan, Burt's older brother
who flew the Voyager around the world without refueling. Dick=20flew
F-100's in Viet
Nam and is a typical fighter pilot,
"You can tell he's a fighter pilot, but you can't tell
himmuch."
Subject:
Mike Melville - SpaceShipOne--Non FAC
Subject: Mike
Melville He gave a 45 minute presentation to the Aircraft Owners
and Pilots Association conference in Long Beach on Thursday, and got a
several-minute standing ovation.
Since he was speaking to
pilots, he didn't have to translate for the "general public" or
pull many punches. He spent almost half of his time going
over the flight controls and the entire cockpit layout inside=20of
SpaceShipOne, explaining how it is flown. I think this is
the first time this has been explained publicly in such detail,
and it was amazing. There are actually four separate flight
regimes, and each is flown differently. Just after launch,
it flies like a piper cub, using a joystick and rudder pedals=20with
mechanical linkages to the controls (no hydraulic assists).
When it goes supersonic, the aerodynamic forces are too high to be
able to move the stick, and the controls are subject to
flutter. So they use an electrically powered trim system,
flown using the "top hat" switch on the joystick and a couple of
grips on the arm rest of the pilot's seat.
(There are backup
switches to the left of the instrument panel, which had to be used
on one flight.) This moves the entire horizontal
stabilizers, not just the elevons on the trailing edges.
Eventually, they get high enough and the air gets thin enough that they
can again use manual controls, although the response is totally
different than lower down. But that goes away as they exit the
atmosphere; the Reaction Control System nozzles are then used=20for
maneuvering in space. Coming back down, the pilot has to
reverse the sequence. There is no automated switchover of
control systems; the pilot has to remember to move from one system to
the next at the right times.
The rudder pedals are not
linked. Each controls one of the two vertical stabilizer
rudders separately. You can push both rudder pedals at the
same time, and get a fairly effective speed brake, with both
rudders canted outward. Push both fully forward and they
engage the wheel brakes. But these are not very effective
and are only really useful for steering input during
rollout. The real brake is on the nose skid: a piece of maple
wood, with the grain aligned down the centerline of the airplane.
He said it was the most effective braking material they could
find.
Stephen, we talked about G forces on Tuesday, and I
got some of it wrong. He says that he gets hit with about
3Gs kicking him backwards as soon as he lights the rocket
motor. He's supersonic within about 9 seconds later.
But he immediately starts to pull up into an almost vertical
climb. So he also gets over 4.3Gs pushing him down into=20his
seat just from that maneuver. The combined force is "very
stressful" and Mike says it's "important not to black out" at=20that
point. He's going 1880 knots straight up within 70
seconds. On re-entry, the aircraft goes from being
absolutely silent while in space to generating a deafening roar as
it hits the atmosphere again. He's going about Mach 3.2 by that
time, and has to survive about 5.5Gs for over 30 seconds, and lesser G
forces for longer than that, as it slows back down. It
sounds really intense, both as he explains it and on the radio.
A couple of interesting side notes: SpaceShipOne has a
standard "N" registration number; but it is licensed as an experimental
"glider". Apparently there was a huge bureaucratic hassle trying to
license it as a rocket powered spacecraft, which they just sidestepped
by calling it a glider. I asked him if it had a yaw string; he
laughed and said that would have burned off. By the way, the
registration number is N328KF, where 328K is the number of Feet in
100km. (White Knight is N318SL - Burt Rutan's 318th
design.)
Mike says that the flight director system (called
a TINU) was developed completely in-house by a couple of
28-year-old programmers, and is absolutely fantastic to fly.
That's why they don't need a yaw string. But I had heard
over the radio that Brian Binnie had re-booted the TINU just
before the landing approach during the X2 flight, and it took quite
a while for it to come back up. So I asked Mike what that
was about. He says that during re-entry, the TINU loses=20its
GPS lock. So it keeps trying to go back to catch up,
re-interpolate and compensate for the missing data, and this keeps
it a little behind in its actual position calculations.=20The
pilot has no straight-ahead vision at all, so they have a real
issue landing: they can't see the runway! The way they do it
is to fly directly down the runway at 9000 feet; then they do a
(military style) break and fly a full 360 degree pattern right to the
landing. The TINU gives the pilot a "blue line" to follow
and a
target airspeed (which produces a given rate of
descent). If the pilot follows the blue line, right to the
break point and through the two 180 degree turns, it will put=20him
right onto the runway at what ever touchdown point he
selects. But the TINU has to be absolutely current when=20this
is going on. So at something above 15,000 feet they reboot
the TINU and get it re-synched with the GPS satellites again
before setting up for the landing!
He also talked in
detail about the rocket motor, and had photos of its insides after
firing. The nozzle throat actually ablates as the motor burns,
enlarging the interior throat diameter as the burn progresses. He
described the problem they had on the June 21 flight: The rocket motor
nozzle was skewed by about =BD degree to one side. This generated a
surprisingly high lateral torque trying to turn the
aircraft. If it had been up or down pitch rather than
lateral, the controls could have handled it; but the lateral
yawing forces were too great for Mike to compensate as the atmosphere
thinned. The result was that he was pretty far off
course. Mike says he reached apogee, rolled the spacecraft
over, and was surprised to see the Palmdale VOR directly beneath
him. That was
30 miles away from Mojave and a long glide
home. He says its amazing how fast a relatively small deviation
can produce large distances when you're going Mach 3!
For
one of the static burn tests, they had fire and safety crews all
standing a mile away, ready to duck if anything went wrong.
In the middle of the test, Mike and Burt Rutan walked up to the
front of the motor assembly and felt the pressure vessel that
contains the N2O. Mike knew he was going to have this same thing
strapped onto his back soon, anyway, and he wanted to know how
much it vibrated, how hot it got, and how loud it was. It
was deafening, literally. It turns out that, with the
nozzles they use at high altitudes, it's actually not that noisy
inside the spacecraft. But he still wears hearing
protection.
Scaled Composites seem to have fabricated
quite a bit of the rocket motor themselves, including the N2O=20tank
(which is also the structural core of the spacecraft) and the
nozzle casings. It would be interesting to hear from
Michael's friend exactly what parts SpaceDev designed and what
they manufactured.
W. Thomas Wall
wtwall(at)lightview.biz
949-498-3305
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| Subject: | shoulder harness |
| From: | "Linzel Gray Civ 43 CES/CECP" <Gray.Linzel(at)pope.af.mil> |
I'm using one salvaged from a 1960 Piper Pawnee Ag plane, not sure if
its v or Y.
Gray
-----Original Message-----
From: Rad Z [mailto:microsmurfer(at)yahoo.com]
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: shoulder harness
Hi folks,
Just curious about the shoulder harnesses -- are yours
V or Y-type? any recommendations for one over the
other?
Thanks!
Radomir
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| From: | "Wayne Williams" <rwayne(at)gamewood.net> |
| Subject: | shoulder harness |
If I'm understanding you correctly you really want a "V" (2 separate
shoulder buckles). The "Y" is like putting your head through a loop and is
much harder to get out of in an emergency.
Wayne
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From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Linzel
Gray Civ 43 CES/CECP
Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: shoulder harness
I'm using one salvaged from a 1960 Piper Pawnee Ag plane, not sure if
its v or Y.
Gray
-----Original Message-----
From: Rad Z [mailto:microsmurfer(at)yahoo.com]
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: shoulder harness
Hi folks,
Just curious about the shoulder harnesses -- are yours
V or Y-type? any recommendations for one over the
other?
Thanks!
Radomir
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| From: | Rad Z <microsmurfer(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | shoulder harness |
Thanks Wayne.. it's these considerations I'm looking
for.
Just to clarify V vs. Y type:
This is Y-type:
http://www.crowenterprizes.com./PAGE%20IMAGES/11125.jpg
V-type is basically the same, except that the shoulder
harnesses meet all the way in the back (near or at)
the bolt-in hardware into a single attach point.
Not sure if this would work:
http://www.crowenterprizes.com./PAGE%20IMAGES/11104.jpg
(it might, if those two harness attach points can be
sandwitched together into Van's harness cable)...
These guys couldn't tell me how thick exactly the
hardware is... they said "around 0.0900.. so
theoretically, might work as cable attach bracket is
3/16")
PS. I'm really after an affordable rotary latch
system... :)
Thanks!
Radomir
--- Wayne Williams wrote:
> Williams"
>
> If I'm understanding you correctly you really want a
> "V" (2 separate
> shoulder buckles). The "Y" is like putting your head
> through a loop and is
> much harder to get out of in an emergency.
>
> Wayne
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| Subject: | Fwd: [OhioValleyRVators] OVRVators Formation Clinic |
In a message dated 12/3/04 12:22:09 PM Eastern Standard Time,
rgray67968(at)aol.com writes:
Ohio Valley RVators,
I know we've been real busy lately so I've held off on this
post....but.....drum roll please....here we go:
In consultation with Kahuna (aka Mike Stewart - Team RV) there is a
strong possibility that we will be hosting another RV Formation
Clinic next year.
The clinic would be the same GREAT FORMAT that Team RV has provided
in the past. The training format that Team RV utilizes has proven to
be VERY SAFE and VERY EFFECTIVE for the newbies, intermediates, as
well as the seasoned formation pilots.
-Location will be the Mid Ohio Valley Airport - otherwise known as
PKB (my home airport)
-3 day clinic, arrive Friday-ground school in the early evening, 2 &
3 ship formations all day Saturday with newbies in the right/back
seats of qualified Flight Leads/Wingmen then switching to their
planes, followed by an 'all up' formation for those qualified on
Sunday.
-overnight accomodations at local hotel(s)
-breakfast/lunch at the airport each day, dinner out on the town with
all your RV buds
-fuel discount at PKB
-hangar discount (where available)
-possibility of FFI checkrides (need to confirm this with Stu McCurdy-
Falcon Flight), of course prior arrangements/recommendations would
take place
-new formation pilots MUST attend the ground school to fly and MUST
have all appropriate training manuals....no exeptions....same as last
year.
-Date TBD - we don't want to conflict with Sun 'n Fun...we're looking
at April 1,2,3 April 29,30,31 and May 6,7,8 right now.
Last year we had 51 folks and 38 RV's registered.
But.....before we go too far.....Kahuna and I need to know how much
interest we have in our area this year.
Please reply right here or to my home email if you're SERIOUS about
attending your first....or another NO NONSENSE Team RV Formation
Clinic hosted by the Ohio Valley RVators at PKB. If I start getting
flooded with emails I'll let you know and we'll consider it
a 'go'...then we'll put up the registration and move forward.
It's your call....like I always say 'you snooze....you looze'.
Rick at the Buffalo Farm
From: "Rick Gray" <rgray67968(at)aol.com>
List-Unsubscribe:
Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 17:15:06 -0000
Subject: [OhioValleyRVators] OVRVators Formation Clinic
Ohio Valley RVators,
I know we've been real busy lately so I've held off on this
post....but.....drum roll please....here we go:
In consultation with Kahuna (aka Mike Stewart - Team RV) there is a
strong possibility that we will be hosting another RV Formation
Clinic next year.
The clinic would be the same GREAT FORMAT that Team RV has provided
in the past. The training format that Team RV utilizes has proven to
be VERY SAFE and VERY EFFECTIVE for the newbies, intermediates, as
well as the seasoned formation pilots.
-Location will be the Mid Ohio Valley Airport - otherwise known as
PKB (my home airport)
-3 day clinic, arrive Friday-ground school in the early evening, 2 &
3 ship formations all day Saturday with newbies in the right/back
seats of qualified Flight Leads/Wingmen then switching to their
planes, followed by an 'all up' formation for those qualified on
Sunday.
-overnight accomodations at local hotel(s)
-breakfast/lunch at the airport each day, dinner out on the town with
all your RV buds
-fuel discount at PKB
-hangar discount (where available)
-possibility of FFI checkrides (need to confirm this with Stu McCurdy-
Falcon Flight), of course prior arrangements/recommendations would
take place
-new formation pilots MUST attend the ground school to fly and MUST
have all appropriate training manuals....no exeptions....same as last
year.
-Date TBD - we don't want to conflict with Sun 'n Fun...we're looking
at April 1,2,3 April 29,30,31 and May 6,7,8 right now.
Last year we had 51 folks and 38 RV's registered.
But.....before we go too far.....Kahuna and I need to know how much
interest we have in our area this year.
Please reply right here or to my home email if you're SERIOUS about
attending your first....or another NO NONSENSE Team RV Formation
Clinic hosted by the Ohio Valley RVators at PKB. If I start getting
flooded with emails I'll let you know and we'll consider it
a 'go'...then we'll put up the registration and move forward.
It's your call....like I always say 'you snooze....you looze'.
Rick at the Buffalo Farm
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| From: | "Paul D. Franzon" <paulf(at)ncsu.edu> |
| Subject: | Fwd: [OhioValleyRVators] OVRVators Formation Clinic |
I would be interested.
Paul D. Franzon
RV-4
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Lenleg(at)aol.com
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Fwd: [OhioValleyRVators] OVRVators Formation
Clinic
In a message dated 12/3/04 12:22:09 PM Eastern Standard Time,
rgray67968(at)aol.com writes:
Ohio Valley RVators,
I know we've been real busy lately so I've held off on this
post....but.....drum roll please....here we go:
In consultation with Kahuna (aka Mike Stewart - Team RV) there is a
strong possibility that we will be hosting another RV Formation
Clinic next year.
The clinic would be the same GREAT FORMAT that Team RV has provided
in the past. The training format that Team RV utilizes has proven to
be VERY SAFE and VERY EFFECTIVE for the newbies, intermediates, as
well as the seasoned formation pilots.
-Location will be the Mid Ohio Valley Airport - otherwise known as
PKB (my home airport)
-3 day clinic, arrive Friday-ground school in the early evening, 2 &
3 ship formations all day Saturday with newbies in the right/back
seats of qualified Flight Leads/Wingmen then switching to their
planes, followed by an 'all up' formation for those qualified on
Sunday.
-overnight accomodations at local hotel(s)
-breakfast/lunch at the airport each day, dinner out on the town with
all your RV buds
-fuel discount at PKB
-hangar discount (where available)
-possibility of FFI checkrides (need to confirm this with Stu McCurdy-
Falcon Flight), of course prior arrangements/recommendations would
take place
-new formation pilots MUST attend the ground school to fly and MUST
have all appropriate training manuals....no exeptions....same as last
year.
-Date TBD - we don't want to conflict with Sun 'n Fun...we're looking
at April 1,2,3 April 29,30,31 and May 6,7,8 right now.
Last year we had 51 folks and 38 RV's registered.
But.....before we go too far.....Kahuna and I need to know how much
interest we have in our area this year.
Please reply right here or to my home email if you're SERIOUS about
attending your first....or another NO NONSENSE Team RV Formation
Clinic hosted by the Ohio Valley RVators at PKB. If I start getting
flooded with emails I'll let you know and we'll consider it
a 'go'...then we'll put up the registration and move forward.
It's your call....like I always say 'you snooze....you looze'.
Rick at the Buffalo Farm
From: "Rick Gray" <rgray67968(at)aol.com>
List-Unsubscribe:
Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 17:15:06 -0000
Subject: [OhioValleyRVators] OVRVators Formation Clinic
Ohio Valley RVators,
I know we've been real busy lately so I've held off on this
post....but.....drum roll please....here we go:
In consultation with Kahuna (aka Mike Stewart - Team RV) there is a
strong possibility that we will be hosting another RV Formation
Clinic next year.
The clinic would be the same GREAT FORMAT that Team RV has provided
in the past. The training format that Team RV utilizes has proven to
be VERY SAFE and VERY EFFECTIVE for the newbies, intermediates, as
well as the seasoned formation pilots.
-Location will be the Mid Ohio Valley Airport - otherwise known as
PKB (my home airport)
-3 day clinic, arrive Friday-ground school in the early evening, 2 &
3 ship formations all day Saturday with newbies in the right/back
seats of qualified Flight Leads/Wingmen then switching to their
planes, followed by an 'all up' formation for those qualified on
Sunday.
-overnight accomodations at local hotel(s)
-breakfast/lunch at the airport each day, dinner out on the town with
all your RV buds
-fuel discount at PKB
-hangar discount (where available)
-possibility of FFI checkrides (need to confirm this with Stu McCurdy-
Falcon Flight), of course prior arrangements/recommendations would
take place
-new formation pilots MUST attend the ground school to fly and MUST
have all appropriate training manuals....no exeptions....same as last
year.
-Date TBD - we don't want to conflict with Sun 'n Fun...we're looking
at April 1,2,3 April 29,30,31 and May 6,7,8 right now.
Last year we had 51 folks and 38 RV's registered.
But.....before we go too far.....Kahuna and I need to know how much
interest we have in our area this year.
Please reply right here or to my home email if you're SERIOUS about
attending your first....or another NO NONSENSE Team RV Formation
Clinic hosted by the Ohio Valley RVators at PKB. If I start getting
flooded with emails I'll let you know and we'll consider it
a 'go'...then we'll put up the registration and move forward.
It's your call....like I always say 'you snooze....you looze'.
Rick at the Buffalo Farm
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| From: | SportAV8R(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Saturday flight from KDAN |
Len, you sure found some non-Lennish weather this time! Looks good, buddy. I'll
see you turkeys on the ramp at DAN 1030 sharp, tanks full up, ready for a day
of X/C wing-waxing :-)
I think Chris should buy us all lunch.
-Stormy
up _early_ this morning to put Miriam on the church van for her wekend with the
ladies...
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Saturday flight from KDAN |
In a message dated 12/4/2004 6:06:53 AM Eastern Standard Time,
SportAV8R(at)aol.com writes:
> Len, you sure found some non-Lennish weather this time! Looks good, buddy.
> I'll see you turkeys on the ramp at DAN 1030 sharp, tanks full up, ready
> for a day of X/C wing-waxing :-)
>
> I think Chris should buy us all lunch.
>
> -Stormy
>
>
Looking forward to it !!!
Len
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Formation Clinics |
Guys:
We have tried for some time to participate in one of TeamRV's formation
clinics .... weathered out each time. They are not offering the clinic in Lakeland
in January as they did last year so the next opportunity will be at PKB
(Parkersburg, WV) with the Ohio Valley RVators ... Rick Gray's group.
I posted the email from Rick on SERV this week. I don't know if any of you
get the Ohio groups emails ... I am on their list and will forward to Rick any
responses of interest you guys have. I told him I would like to attend. I
also forwarded Paul Franzon's interest.
The event is going to happen sometime around late April ... no date has been
set yet. Rick Gray subscribes to SERV and will keep us posted .... thanks in
advance Rick.
Len
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | RV Fly In - Lakeland, Fl |
SERV:
Just a reminder of the RV Fly In down at SNF grounds in Lakeland in January.
We already have a group of people planning to go.
We are going to depart on Friday morning January 14 with a stop of seafood
lunch in Cedar Key, Florida .... then on to SNF grounds.
Some wives are planning to make the trip ... sun and fun !!! The guys will
be camping on the site with a return date of Sunday the 16th.
We might can hook up with some of the Palmetto guys or TeamRV guys for the
trip down ....
Len
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | RGray67968(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Formation Clinics |
No problem Len.....we'll keep you guys posted. Hoping you guys can get things moving
with some serious formation flying down your way. These clinics are the
ONLY WAY to help you get started SAFELY and to get real hands on training from
experienced RV formation pilots. Hope to see plenty of our SERV buds at this
years clinic at PKB!!
Rick at the Buffalo Farm
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| From: | "David Davenport" <ddavenport5(at)nc.rr.com> |
0.03 MSGID_SPAM_99X9XX99 Spam tool Message-Id: (99x9xx99 variant)
Anybody doing anything much Sunday afternoon? I've been down for a month doing
my first annual, and am itching to go somewhere. Any takers?
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "BOB martin" <libertyva(at)msn.com> |
| Subject: | Looking for Stormy! |
Hey Stormy, Larry and I flew over Hop a Long and tried to get you up on
Button One saturday about 3:30 or so. So didn't see any activity on the
strip so we stayed at 8500. The air was smooth and was a good time for some
formation practice. We figured you were off playing with the other guys so
we headed over to Hot Springs for a look see at the approach end drop off
and then flew over and landed at Farmville, Va. after chatting with some
locals and noticing the sun was about to set.....we launched off for home at
louisa. We had a nice tailwind and the bumps were light enough that we
could keep the 190 kt cruise speed up to the pattern entry. As the #2 man in
the Gaggle I did a 360 on downwind for spacing and we both made nice landing
with the evenings calm winds and setting sun, well....pretty well set by
then. 2.1 on the hobbs...smile.... Heading out again today to try to get a
few more hours in before the week begins again, catch you next time. Hope
you guys had a good time as well.
Bob Martin, Louisa Gang
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Paul D. Franzon" <paulf(at)ncsu.edu> |
| Subject: | Re: Sunday flying |
I'll be flying my RV-4 from the vicinity of RDU most likely to the Mountains
and back. Destination TBD. Most likely leaving at 1. Happy to hook up
with someone. Our plans are flexible.
Paul D. Franzon
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Davenport" <ddavenport5(at)nc.rr.com>
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Sunday flying
>
> Anybody doing anything much Sunday afternoon? I've been down for a month
doing my first annual, and am itching to go somewhere. Any takers?
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
I may be up around that time. I'll try 122.85.
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul D. Franzon [mailto:paulf(at)ncsu.edu]
> Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 9:00 AM
> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Sunday flying
>
> -->
>
> I'll be flying my RV-4 from the vicinity of RDU most likely
> to the Mountains and back. Destination TBD. Most likely
> leaving at 1. Happy to hook up with someone. Our plans are flexible.
>
> Paul D. Franzon
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Davenport" <ddavenport5(at)nc.rr.com>
> To:
> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Sunday flying
>
>
>
> >
> > Anybody doing anything much Sunday afternoon? I've been
> down for a month
> doing my first annual, and am itching to go somewhere. Any takers?
> >
> >
>
>
> =========
> =========
> =========
> =========
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| From: | SportAV8R(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Looking for Stormy! |
Sorry to miss the Veggie Tale Squadron's fly-over! I was down in NC with Len,
Larry, Wayne 8A and Dennis Millsap playing RV's all afternoon. Nice!
-Stormy
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Thanks Dennis & Lori !! |
SERV:
You guys missed a lot of fun and food on Saturday !!!
Larry Bowen ... fresh out of Phase I , Stormy, Wayne8A, and I ... all met at
Danville on Saturday morning for a 10:30 briefing for a flight down to
Greenville, NC (home of the ECU Pirates ... okay bad football year) ... to drop
off some items to my son with plans to meet the newest SERV members ... Dennis
and Lori Milsap.
Wayne8A was lead for the flight of 4 ....Stormy (#3) and I (#2) exchanged
wing wax with Wayne8A (lead) ... Larry (#4) getting it all on video !!
Absolutely perfectly smooth !!! Just beautiful !!
Landed at PGV .....there on the field waiting is Dennis with his 6A gassed
up and ready to fly ... we pick up my son and his roomate for the now flight
of 5 over to Farmville, NC (N08) ... home base for Dennis. Nice grass strip
with no taxiways ... so we had several passes with lead breaking off on each
pass .. landing ...taxiiing out of the way. All down safely !! It was my
son's roomate's first flight so Wayne8A pulled hard on the break to give him the
ole RV grin !!! "Whoa ...That was cool" if I am quoting correctly !!!
Off we went to the Milsap home for a fantastic lunch ... all prepared by
Lori and the daughters !! We were treated like Kings !!! Out to the workshop
to check out the RV-10 that Dennis has under construction ... big ... I mean
BIG airplane !!
Upon dropping the kids off back at school in Greenville ... we heard over
the radio a Seneca that could not get the gear down ... calling for fire
trucks, etc for a belly landing ...they were discussing all the options over the
radio .. one of the more radical ideas was having a 172 fly close to the Seneca
and use the wing to bump the gear down ... I started questioning IQs on that
one ... but the pilot quickly nixed that idea.
Don't know what the final outcome was ... I called my son on Sunday and he
said there was nothing on the news or in the paper about it .. hopefully they
got down safely.
Thanks again to Dennis, Lori, and the girls for a wonderful lunch and great
hospitality!!! Thanks also to all the participants ... it was a fun
afternoon flying and seeing everyone.
Len Leggette, RV-8A
Greensboro, N.C. N910LL
292 hrs
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Xmas Party Saturday at Stantons |
SERV:
Don't forget the fun this Saturday at 1:00pm at Stantons BBQ ... check out
the calendar on the website for more info and directions.
Len Leggette, RV-8A
Greensboro, N.C. N910LL
292 hrs
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Thanks Dennis & Lori !! |
| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
Yes, it was a nice afternoon.
Thanks to the Milsap's.
-
Larry Bowen, RV-8, 43.9 Hrs.
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
Lenleg(at)aol.com said:
>
> SERV:
>
> You guys missed a lot of fun and food on Saturday !!!
>
> Larry Bowen ... fresh out of Phase I , Stormy, Wayne8A, and I ... all met
> at
> Danville on Saturday morning for a 10:30 briefing for a flight down to
> Greenville, NC (home of the ECU Pirates ... okay bad football year) ... to
> drop
> off some items to my son with plans to meet the newest SERV members ...
> Dennis
> and Lori Milsap.
>
> Wayne8A was lead for the flight of 4 ....Stormy (#3) and I (#2) exchanged
> wing wax with Wayne8A (lead) ... Larry (#4) getting it all on video !!
> Absolutely perfectly smooth !!! Just beautiful !!
>
> Landed at PGV .....there on the field waiting is Dennis with his 6A
> gassed
> up and ready to fly ... we pick up my son and his roomate for the now
> flight
> of 5 over to Farmville, NC (N08) ... home base for Dennis. Nice grass
> strip
> with no taxiways ... so we had several passes with lead breaking off on
> each
> pass .. landing ...taxiiing out of the way. All down safely !! It was
> my
> son's roomate's first flight so Wayne8A pulled hard on the break to give
> him the
> ole RV grin !!! "Whoa ...That was cool" if I am quoting correctly !!!
>
> Off we went to the Milsap home for a fantastic lunch ... all prepared by
> Lori and the daughters !! We were treated like Kings !!! Out to the
> workshop
> to check out the RV-10 that Dennis has under construction ... big ... I
> mean
> BIG airplane !!
>
> Upon dropping the kids off back at school in Greenville ... we heard over
> the radio a Seneca that could not get the gear down ... calling for fire
> trucks, etc for a belly landing ...they were discussing all the options
> over the
> radio .. one of the more radical ideas was having a 172 fly close to the
> Seneca
> and use the wing to bump the gear down ... I started questioning IQs on
> that
> one ... but the pilot quickly nixed that idea.
>
> Don't know what the final outcome was ... I called my son on Sunday and he
> said there was nothing on the news or in the paper about it .. hopefully
> they
> got down safely.
>
> Thanks again to Dennis, Lori, and the girls for a wonderful lunch and
> great
> hospitality!!! Thanks also to all the participants ... it was a fun
> afternoon flying and seeing everyone.
>
> Len Leggette, RV-8A
> Greensboro, N.C. N910LL
> 292 hrs
>
>
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| From: | "Radomir Zaric" <vitez(at)carolina.rr.com> |
| Subject: | shoulder harness (part II) |
Hey guys,
Would anyone happen to know the length of the seat belts/shoulder harness?
I'm primarily interested in the required length of the shoulder harness -
approx mid-chest to the bolt-in point (steel wire attach point).
Hopefully someone still building (but ahead of me) would be able to take
that measurement, if it wouldn't be too much trouble.
PS.. It's for a -7A
Thanks!
Radomir
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| From: | "Radomir Zaric" <vitez(at)carolina.rr.com> |
| Subject: | first flight (-9A @ Lake Norman) |
Now on Van's site:
http://www.vansaircraft.com/public/flights.htm
First time builders, Ron and Kandy Murray our proud to announce that the
first flight of their RV-9A, N937RK, serial number 90291, occurred on
December 3, 2004 (12-3-4). It flew from Lake Norman Airpark, NC with 26,000
hour test pilot, Van Lawless at the controls. It was a beautiful flight with
over 20 fellow builders and neighbors watching. The 30 minute flight was
uneventful with only a slight heavy left wing reported. The airplane is
complete with full paint and basic interior. It took us 3 years and 8 months
to build the "slow build" for a total construction time of 2,568 hours.
The airplane is equipped with an Aero Sport Power O-320-D2A engine, turning
a 70 by 80 Sensenich fixed pitch prop. The panel is equipped with full IFR
gyros, an AOA, a full complement of Electronics International instruments,
King KMD-150 color multiple function display, ICOM com, and Garmin
transponder. The airplane in full dress weighed in at 1106 pounds.
Many thanks go to Andy Moscarelli our EAA technical advisor, Van Lawless our
test pilot, our neighbors at Lake Norman Airpark, and our local EAA Chapter
309 for assistance and counsel.
Most importantly, our gratitude and appreciation to Van's Aircraft who made
it all possible.
Not sure if Ron is our member?
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
| Subject: | first flight (-9A @ Lake Norman) |
I think I met him at breakfast at Lincolnton a couple weeks ago. I gave the
web address for our group, I think.
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Radomir Zaric [mailto:vitez(at)carolina.rr.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 3:13 PM
> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: first flight (-9A @ Lake Norman)
>
> -->
>
> Now on Van's site:
>
>
> http://www.vansaircraft.com/public/flights.htm
>
>
> First time builders, Ron and Kandy Murray our proud to
> announce that the first flight of their RV-9A, N937RK, serial
> number 90291, occurred on December 3, 2004 (12-3-4). It flew
> from Lake Norman Airpark, NC with 26,000 hour test pilot, Van
> Lawless at the controls. It was a beautiful flight with over
> 20 fellow builders and neighbors watching. The 30 minute
> flight was uneventful with only a slight heavy left wing
> reported. The airplane is complete with full paint and basic
> interior. It took us 3 years and 8 months to build the "slow
> build" for a total construction time of 2,568 hours.
>
> The airplane is equipped with an Aero Sport Power O-320-D2A
> engine, turning a 70 by 80 Sensenich fixed pitch prop. The
> panel is equipped with full IFR gyros, an AOA, a full
> complement of Electronics International instruments, King
> KMD-150 color multiple function display, ICOM com, and Garmin
> transponder. The airplane in full dress weighed in at 1106 pounds.
>
> Many thanks go to Andy Moscarelli our EAA technical advisor,
> Van Lawless our test pilot, our neighbors at Lake Norman
> Airpark, and our local EAA Chapter
> 309 for assistance and counsel.
>
> Most importantly, our gratitude and appreciation to Van's
> Aircraft who made it all possible.
>
>
> Not sure if Ron is our member?
>
>
> =========
> =========
> Matronics Forums.
> =========
> =========
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
| Subject: | first flight (-9A @ Lake Norman) |
Same weight as mine!
But mine has no paint yet. :(
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Radomir Zaric [mailto:vitez(at)carolina.rr.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 3:13 PM
> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: first flight (-9A @ Lake Norman)
>
> -->
>
> Now on Van's site:
>
>
> http://www.vansaircraft.com/public/flights.htm
>
>
> First time builders, Ron and Kandy Murray our proud to
> announce that the first flight of their RV-9A, N937RK, serial
> number 90291, occurred on December 3, 2004 (12-3-4). It flew
> from Lake Norman Airpark, NC with 26,000 hour test pilot, Van
> Lawless at the controls. It was a beautiful flight with over
> 20 fellow builders and neighbors watching. The 30 minute
> flight was uneventful with only a slight heavy left wing
> reported. The airplane is complete with full paint and basic
> interior. It took us 3 years and 8 months to build the "slow
> build" for a total construction time of 2,568 hours.
>
> The airplane is equipped with an Aero Sport Power O-320-D2A
> engine, turning a 70 by 80 Sensenich fixed pitch prop. The
> panel is equipped with full IFR gyros, an AOA, a full
> complement of Electronics International instruments, King
> KMD-150 color multiple function display, ICOM com, and Garmin
> transponder. The airplane in full dress weighed in at 1106 pounds.
>
> Many thanks go to Andy Moscarelli our EAA technical advisor,
> Van Lawless our test pilot, our neighbors at Lake Norman
> Airpark, and our local EAA Chapter
> 309 for assistance and counsel.
>
> Most importantly, our gratitude and appreciation to Van's
> Aircraft who made it all possible.
>
>
> Not sure if Ron is our member?
>
>
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> Matronics Forums.
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| From: | Rad Z <microsmurfer(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | first flight (-9A @ Lake Norman) |
But his doesn't have all that water in the back seat?
:)
Radomir
--- Larry Bowen wrote:
> Bowen"
>
> Same weight as mine!
>
> But mine has no paint yet. :(
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| Subject: | Re: first flight (-9A @ Lake Norman) |
In a message dated 12/7/2004 3:14:14 PM Eastern Standard Time,
vitez(at)carolina.rr.com writes:
> First time builders, Ron and Kandy Murray our proud to announce that the
> first flight of their RV-9A, N937RK, serial number 90291, occurred on
> December 3, 2004 (12-3-4). It flew from Lake Norman Airpark, NC
Congratulations ... hope you guys make it to Stantons BBQ this Saturday !!
Len Leggette, RV-8A
Greensboro, NC N910LL
292 hrs
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| From: | "Bill Repucci" <bill(at)repucci.com> |
| Subject: | Lycoming rebuild tape |
Do any of you have the video on how to rebuild a Lycoming engine they
would like to sell or lend (for a few months)?
I'm about ready to start on the O-290 for my -9 and figure the video
might be a good addition to the Lycoming manual.
Thanks,
Bill
RV-9
Just starting on the fuselage.
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| From: | "Bill Repucci" <bill(at)repucci.com> |
| Subject: | shoulder harness |
I do some racing with a Miata I have and it is interesting to see what
the SCCA (Sports Car Club of America) has to say on this issue.
For road racing they require 3" certified belts. The shoulder harness
has to have two separate straps, no Y belts allowed (anymore) and they
are moving towards requiring all sub-straps be inverted V's, with two
attachment points.
If any of you want to know what happens in the event of an accident to
your internal organs when using a harness without the sub-strap, email
and I'll let you know. It ain't pretty. Needless to say, USE that
sub-strap.
Oh, and the belts expire so you have to replace them every so often as
they loose about 50% of their effectiveness after five years. I'm using
Willans camloc harnesses in the car and will probably do the same in the
-9. (http://www.bethania-garage.com/willans_cam3.htm)
You can pick up expired belts at Muscle Motor Sports, purveyors of fine,
used NASCAR parts, here in Huntersville and have them "re-webbed" by a
parachute rigger. Unfortunately, you can't do that in racing because
you need the certification/expiration tag.
Bill
SCCA Safety Steward and RV-9 Builder
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rad Z
Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: shoulder harness
Thanks Wayne.. it's these considerations I'm looking
for.
Just to clarify V vs. Y type:
This is Y-type:
http://www.crowenterprizes.com./PAGE%20IMAGES/11125.jpg
V-type is basically the same, except that the shoulder harnesses meet
all the way in the back (near or at) the bolt-in hardware into a single
attach point.
Not sure if this would work:
http://www.crowenterprizes.com./PAGE%20IMAGES/11104.jpg
(it might, if those two harness attach points can be sandwitched
together into Van's harness cable)... These guys couldn't tell me how
thick exactly the hardware is... they said "around 0.0900.. so
theoretically, might work as cable attach bracket is
3/16")
PS. I'm really after an affordable rotary latch
system... :)
Thanks!
Radomir
--- Wayne Williams wrote:
> Williams"
>
> If I'm understanding you correctly you really want a
> "V" (2 separate
> shoulder buckles). The "Y" is like putting your head
> through a loop and is
> much harder to get out of in an emergency.
>
> Wayne
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| Subject: | Re: Lycoming rebuild tape |
| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
Superior may have one. Don't they put on an assembly workshop at Oshkosh?
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
Bill Repucci said:
>
> Do any of you have the video on how to rebuild a Lycoming engine they
> would like to sell or lend (for a few months)?
>
> I'm about ready to start on the O-290 for my -9 and figure the video
> might be a good addition to the Lycoming manual.
>
> Thanks,
> Bill
> RV-9
> Just starting on the fuselage.
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
Saturday's weather look like it might interfere with our lunch plans. How
about we move it to Sunday?
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
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| From: | "Ed Anderson" <eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Stanton's BBQ |
Fine by me. Forecast Winds to 25 MPH not my ideal for a cross-wind grass
strip {:>)
Ed Anderson
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Stanton's BBQ
>
> Saturday's weather look like it might interfere with our lunch plans. How
> about we move it to Sunday?
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry(at)BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
>
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| From: | bill crothers <bill28104(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Stanton's BBQ |
turkey & dressing special on sunday
--- Ed Anderson wrote:
> Anderson"
>
> Fine by me. Forecast Winds to 25 MPH not my ideal
> for a cross-wind grass
> strip {:>)
>
> Ed Anderson
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
> To:
> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Stanton's BBQ
>
>
> Bowen"
>
> >
> > Saturday's weather look like it might interfere
> with our lunch plans. How
> > about we move it to Sunday?
> >
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| From: | "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Stanton's BBQ |
We can do Sunday!
Steve Glasgow and Ron Schreck
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Stanton's BBQ
>
>
> Saturday's weather look like it might interfere with our lunch plans. How
> about we move it to Sunday?
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry(at)BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Stanton's BBQ |
| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
Perfect. Sunday it is.
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
bill crothers said:
>
>
> turkey & dressing special on sunday
> --- Ed Anderson wrote:
>
>> Anderson"
>>
>> Fine by me. Forecast Winds to 25 MPH not my ideal
>> for a cross-wind grass
>> strip {:>)
>>
>> Ed Anderson
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
>> To:
>> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Stanton's BBQ
>>
>>
>> Bowen"
>>
>> >
>> > Saturday's weather look like it might interfere
>> with our lunch plans. How
>> > about we move it to Sunday?
>> >
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In a message dated 12/9/04 8:54:33 PM Eastern Standard Time,
nonarita(at)bellsouth.net writes:
I am very interested in joining with a group of Van's aircraft devotees. I
live on Cox Airfield *NC81) in Apex, NC (8 nautical SW of RDU) and fly a
recently purchased RV-7 and have owned two RV-4s. I jsut sold my EXTRA300L
after five years and 700 hours of grand flying. However, my wife found the 300
intimidating and would not fly with me in the Extra. Consequently the
recently purchased "7."
The best way to contact me is by e-mailing me at _207lh(at)bellsouth.net_
(mailto:207lh(at)bellsouth.net) Or, I can be found at _www.eaa1114.org_
(http://www.eaa1114.org/) where I am president of Chapter 1114. You might find our
web page interesting at that address.
Best regards,
Denny Mercer
Denny:
Welcome back to the RV world ...I was at Cox field checking out an engine
for my RV-8A when you first purchased your Extra ... you were flying it the day
I was there ... gorgeous airplane !!!
We are planning a meeting this coming Saturday ... now changing to Sunday at
Stantons BBQ in Bennetsville, SC at 1:00pm. You can subscribe to our email
list by going to: _www.matronics.com_ (http://www.matronics.com) and find
the Southeast RV Squadron ... just click on subscribe and you will be getting
all of the groups emails daily. Email wise it is not terribly active ... a
few of us try to keep something stirred up but you won't be overwhelmed with
full mailboxes.
You can also visit our website at: _www.bowenaero.com/serv_
(http://www.bowenaero.com/serv) Larry Bowen maintains that site and has a calendar of
events as well as a roster. You can send your name, email address, RV type, N
number, telephone number to Larry and he will add you to the roster.
Hope to see you this weekend at Stantons ... if you have flown into there
before ... let me know and I will get you some GPS coorinates ...
Welcome ....
Len Leggette, RV-8A
Greensboro, N.C. N910LL
292 hrs
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| Subject: | Sunday at Stantons BBQ |
Larry:
I will be there on Sunday .... what time do you plan to leave 8A7? I need
fuel so I will plan to come over for the flight down !!
Len Leggette, RV-8A
Greensboro, N.C. N910LL
292 hrs
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| Subject: | Re: Sunday at Stantons BBQ |
| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
12:00-12:15?
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
Lenleg(at)aol.com said:
>
> Larry:
>
> I will be there on Sunday .... what time do you plan to leave 8A7? I
> need
> fuel so I will plan to come over for the flight down !!
>
> Len Leggette, RV-8A
> Greensboro, N.C. N910LL
> 292 hrs
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Sunday at Stantons BBQ |
In a message dated 12/10/04 8:49:10 AM Eastern Standard Time,
Larry(at)bowenaero.com writes:
12:00-12:15?
-
Larry Bowen
See you then !!
Len
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| Subject: | SERV at Stantons BBQ Sunday |
SERV:
Hope everyone is planning to make the trip to Stantons tomorrow around 1pm.
Looking forward to seeing lots of RVs come in !!!
Check the calendar at _www.bowenaero.com_ (http://www.bowenaero.com) for
more info !!
Len
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| From: | "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: SERV at Stantons BBQ Sunday |
Schreck and Glasgow are in!
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: <Lenleg(at)aol.com>
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: SERV at Stantons BBQ Sunday
>
> SERV:
>
> Hope everyone is planning to make the trip to Stantons tomorrow around
> 1pm.
> Looking forward to seeing lots of RVs come in !!!
>
> Check the calendar at _www.bowenaero.com_ (http://www.bowenaero.com) for
> more info !!
>
> Len
>
>
>
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| From: | bill crothers <bill28104(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: SERV at Stantons BBQ Sunday |
ditto vinroot & crothers
--- Steve Glasgow wrote:
> Glasgow"
>
> Schreck and Glasgow are in!
>
> Steve
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Lenleg(at)aol.com>
> To:
> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: SERV at Stantons BBQ
> Sunday
>
>
> Lenleg(at)aol.com
> >
> > SERV:
> >
> > Hope everyone is planning to make the trip to
> Stantons tomorrow around
> > 1pm.
> > Looking forward to seeing lots of RVs come in !!!
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| From: | "Ed Anderson" <eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: SERV at Stantons BBQ Sunday |
Len, Larry, May not make it tomorrow, spent a frustrating day trying to fix
a fuel leak unsuccessfully. Had to take the manifold off each time to get
to the leaking fitting. Would think I had fixed it and turn on the EFI high
pressure pumps - no leaks. Place the manifold back on and run the engine
and it would begin to leak. Did this three times thinking it was a fitting
going to my fuel rail. It looks like instead its the hose fitting that
screws onto the fuel rail fitting.
Of course, by the time I realized that all the auto stores where I might get
hose were closed. Will see if I have some hose at the shop and may try to
see if I can get it fixed early enough to join you folks. If not, have a
great gathering.
Ed (hope to see you there) Anderson
----- Original Message -----
From: <Lenleg(at)aol.com>
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: SERV at Stantons BBQ Sunday
>
> SERV:
>
> Hope everyone is planning to make the trip to Stantons tomorrow around
1pm.
> Looking forward to seeing lots of RVs come in !!!
>
> Check the calendar at _www.bowenaero.com_ (http://www.bowenaero.com) for
> more info !!
>
> Len
>
>
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| From: | "Terrence Gardner" <ttandt(at)mindspring.com> |
I'll be going in the 150. It will be good to put some faces with names. Are
ya'll using an inflight freq on the way down?
T Gardner
RV9A
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In a message dated 12/12/2004 10:38:48 AM Eastern Standard Time,
ttandt(at)mindspring.com writes:
I'll be going in the 150. It will be good to put some faces with names. Are
ya'll using an inflight freq on the way down?
T Gardner
122.85
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| From: | "Ed Anderson" <eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com> |
Well, got airborne after fixing fuel leak. However, power was not what it should
be (probably my new homemade muffler is still too restrictive), so flew down
to Stantons anyhow, but never found it. Decided that with my reduced power
and a grass strip that I had not flown into before (and possibly soft ground
after recent rains) that the prudent course was to head back.
Sorry I missed you folks, next time!!!
Ed Anderson
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com
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| From: | "Radomir Zaric" <vitez(at)carolina.rr.com> |
Ed,
You flew right over it.. we saw you from below :)
Radomir
-----Original Message-----
Well, got airborne after fixing fuel leak. However, power was not what it
should be (probably my new homemade muffler is still too restrictive), so
flew down to Stantons anyhow, but never found it. Decided that with my
reduced power and a grass strip that I had not flown into before (and
possibly soft ground after recent rains) that the prudent course was to head
back.
Sorry I missed you folks, next time!!!
Ed Anderson
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Ed Anderson" <eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: missed stantons |
Well, why didn't someone yell or wave {:>)?. I looked and looked, looked
for Red Restaurant bld, looked for runway, looked for airplanes on ground,
looked for airplanes in the air.
Actually, I figured I was in the vicinity and could have called on radio and
asked if anyone heard me - but, eventually decided that I didn't want to go
into a grass strip with my reduced power - would have probably been OK.
But, "probably" is not good enough.
If anyone has precise GPS coordinates, down to the 0.xxx, I would like to
get it from you.
Thanks
Ed Anderson
----- Original Message -----
From: "Radomir Zaric" <vitez(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: missed stantons
>
> Ed,
>
> You flew right over it.. we saw you from below :)
>
> Radomir
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
>
> Well, got airborne after fixing fuel leak. However, power was not what it
> should be (probably my new homemade muffler is still too restrictive), so
> flew down to Stantons anyhow, but never found it. Decided that with my
> reduced power and a grass strip that I had not flown into before (and
> possibly soft ground after recent rains) that the prudent course was to
head
> back.
>
> Sorry I missed you folks, next time!!!
>
> Ed Anderson
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: missed stantons |
There were only 2 planes on the ground when you went by and I was trying to
get my ICOM hooked up but guess I was too late.
Later,
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: missed stantons
>
>
> Well, why didn't someone yell or wave {:>)?. I looked and looked, looked
> for Red Restaurant bld, looked for runway, looked for airplanes on ground,
> looked for airplanes in the air.
>
> Actually, I figured I was in the vicinity and could have called on radio
> and
> asked if anyone heard me - but, eventually decided that I didn't want to
> go
> into a grass strip with my reduced power - would have probably been OK.
> But, "probably" is not good enough.
>
> If anyone has precise GPS coordinates, down to the 0.xxx, I would like to
> get it from you.
>
> Thanks
>
> Ed Anderson
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Radomir Zaric" <vitez(at)carolina.rr.com>
> To:
> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: missed stantons
>
>
>
>>
>> Ed,
>>
>> You flew right over it.. we saw you from below :)
>>
>> Radomir
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>>
>> Well, got airborne after fixing fuel leak. However, power was not what
>> it
>> should be (probably my new homemade muffler is still too restrictive),
>> so
>> flew down to Stantons anyhow, but never found it. Decided that with my
>> reduced power and a grass strip that I had not flown into before (and
>> possibly soft ground after recent rains) that the prudent course was to
> head
>> back.
>>
>> Sorry I missed you folks, next time!!!
>>
>> Ed Anderson
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| From: | bill crothers <bill28104(at)yahoo.com> |
Great afternoon guys. Nice to see so many happy RV
faces. Special thx to James and Ken for the formation
practice. Robt. Vinroot took some great pix and will
post on site. Maybe others will get excited and join
in...Once you are comfortable in your RV, its the
greatest experience...Until next time...Bill Crothers
__________________________________
http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250
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| From: | "Ed Anderson" <eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: missed stantons |
Thanks, Steve. That's probably one reason I missed you folks, I was looking
for a gaggle. Next time. I trust a great time was had by all (that manage
to find the place {:>)
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: missed stantons
>
> There were only 2 planes on the ground when you went by and I was trying
to
> get my ICOM hooked up but guess I was too late.
>
> Later,
>
> Steve
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com>
> To:
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: missed stantons
>
>
> >
> >
> > Well, why didn't someone yell or wave {:>)?. I looked and looked,
looked
> > for Red Restaurant bld, looked for runway, looked for airplanes on
ground,
> > looked for airplanes in the air.
> >
> > Actually, I figured I was in the vicinity and could have called on radio
> > and
> > asked if anyone heard me - but, eventually decided that I didn't want to
> > go
> > into a grass strip with my reduced power - would have probably been OK.
> > But, "probably" is not good enough.
> >
> > If anyone has precise GPS coordinates, down to the 0.xxx, I would like
to
> > get it from you.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Ed Anderson
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Radomir Zaric" <vitez(at)carolina.rr.com>
> > To:
> > Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: missed stantons
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Ed,
> >>
> >> You flew right over it.. we saw you from below :)
> >>
> >> Radomir
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >>
> >>
> >> Well, got airborne after fixing fuel leak. However, power was not what
> >> it
> >> should be (probably my new homemade muffler is still too restrictive),
> >> so
> >> flew down to Stantons anyhow, but never found it. Decided that with my
> >> reduced power and a grass strip that I had not flown into before (and
> >> possibly soft ground after recent rains) that the prudent course was to
> > head
> >> back.
> >>
> >> Sorry I missed you folks, next time!!!
> >>
> >> Ed Anderson
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
It was very nice to see so many members of the RV family again. We have to
do it more often. Radmir uploaded some pictures here
http://bowenaero.com/copper/thumbnails.php?album=38
And I'll have some on my site later on....
Cheers,
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bill crothers [mailto:bill28104(at)yahoo.com]
> Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 5:49 PM
> To: rv-ers
> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: stanton's
>
> -->
>
> Great afternoon guys. Nice to see so many happy RV faces.
> Special thx to James and Ken for the formation practice.
> Robt. Vinroot took some great pix and will post on site.
> Maybe others will get excited and join in...Once you are
> comfortable in your RV, its the greatest experience...Until
> next time...Bill Crothers
>
>
>
> __________________________________
> http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250
>
>
> =========
> =========
> =========
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| From: | "Ed Anderson" <eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Photos of Stanton's from the Air |
For anyone who anticipates flying to Stanton's BBQ. This URL has PHOTOS! of what
it looks like from the air. I now realize I did fly over the strip - (recognize
it from the photo and what appeared to be come kind of lime line markings
near the center ) but simply did not recognize it as such.
Ed
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
| Subject: | Today's SERV Pictures |
Wow, lots of pictures taken today:
http://bowenaero.com/copper/thumbnails.php?album=search&search=20041212
Good job!
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "James E. Clark" <james(at)nextupventures.com> |
| Subject: | Stanton's ... Good Food, Friends and Flying |
Great time today at our "little gathering"!
Twelve (I *think*) RV's that LANDED. Some that either didn't find it or
otherewise chose not to land and Len you thought there would be only THREE
planes!!
Ha! We sure surprised you on that one didn't we. Next time. We might even do
better.
Would you believe Ken and I had just left a SC Breakfast Club fly-in at the
Darlington Speedway??? So we had a VERY early start. :-) Fortunately it was
"along the way".
I tried to get a shot of every plane that arrived but I think I missed the
RV6A that arrived after we went inside. They are not great shots but if
someone wants one at full rez, let me know.
To whosoever took it, I really like the shot of me in "Papa Juliette"
landing with the trees in the background. Would like to have a "hi-rez"
version sent to me at: james(at)nextupventures.com if at all possible.
And the formation practice was a nice finishing touch. You could tell that
Bill was getting better by the MINUTE!! (Being ex-military helps it seems
:-) ) In one of the shots you get to see that "magic moment" when there
was symmetry and stability. Doesn't have to be so close ... just symmetric
and stable. LOOKED GREAT Bill. I suspect your passenger/photographer
(Robert) was having a good time too.
I look forward to more gatherings and more formation PRACTICE.
Thanks!!
James
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
| Subject: | Stanton's ... Good Food, Friends and Flying |
James -
Good to see you again today.
How do you keep track of where the SCBC is going to meet next? Is their
schedule on-line?
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James E. Clark [mailto:james(at)nextupventures.com]
> Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 9:56 PM
> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Stanton's ... Good Food, Friends and Flying
>
> -->
>
> Great time today at our "little gathering"!
>
> Twelve (I *think*) RV's that LANDED. Some that either didn't
> find it or otherewise chose not to land and Len you thought
> there would be only THREE planes!!
>
> Ha! We sure surprised you on that one didn't we. Next time.
> We might even do better.
>
> Would you believe Ken and I had just left a SC Breakfast Club
> fly-in at the Darlington Speedway??? So we had a VERY early
> start. :-) Fortunately it was "along the way".
>
>
> I tried to get a shot of every plane that arrived but I think
> I missed the RV6A that arrived after we went inside. They are
> not great shots but if someone wants one at full rez, let me know.
>
> To whosoever took it, I really like the shot of me in "Papa Juliette"
> landing with the trees in the background. Would like to have
> a "hi-rez"
> version sent to me at: james(at)nextupventures.com if at all possible.
>
> And the formation practice was a nice finishing touch. You
> could tell that Bill was getting better by the MINUTE!!
> (Being ex-military helps it seems
> :-) ) In one of the shots you get to see that "magic
> moment" when there
> was symmetry and stability. Doesn't have to be so close ...
> just symmetric and stable. LOOKED GREAT Bill. I suspect your
> passenger/photographer
> (Robert) was having a good time too.
>
> I look forward to more gatherings and more formation PRACTICE.
>
> Thanks!!
>
> James
>
>
> =========
> Matronics Forums.
> =========
> =========
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| From: | "Radomir Zaric" <vitez(at)carolina.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Stanton's ... Good Food, Friends and Flying |
James,
It may be a bit large for email. You can get the original images at:
http://www.vitez.net/images/james.zip
These are all the images of 996PJ I took today.
PS. A bit of photoshop post-processing may be required.
Radomir
-7A Fuselage
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of James E.
Clark
To whosoever took it, I really like the shot of me in "Papa Juliette"
landing with the trees in the background. Would like to have a "hi-rez"
version sent to me at: james(at)nextupventures.com if at all possible.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "James E. Clark" <james(at)nextupventures.com> |
| Subject: | Stanton's ... Good Food, Friends and Flying |
I planned to mention that at the meeting today. I think it would be
ABSOLUTELY GREAT if our gang could make a few of those. And a good time
would be had.
I thought I had my little card but I have misplaced it.
Here are the next few ...
January 2 - Twin Lakes (S17) Graniteville, SC
January 16- Clemson (KCEU) Clemson, SC
February 13 - Eagle Aviation (KCAE) Columbia, SC
February 27 - Georgetown (KGGE) Georgetown, SC
March 13 - Anderson (KAND) Anderson, SC
March 27 - NONE .... Easter
This info can be found at our chapter website http://www.eaa242.org and look
under calendar.
James
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Larry
> Bowen
> Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 10:04 PM
> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Stanton's ... Good Food, Friends and
> Flying
>
>
>
>
> James -
>
> Good to see you again today.
>
> How do you keep track of where the SCBC is going to meet next? Is their
> schedule on-line?
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry(at)BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: James E. Clark [mailto:james(at)nextupventures.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 9:56 PM
> > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Stanton's ... Good Food, Friends and Flying
> >
> > -->
> >
> > Great time today at our "little gathering"!
> >
> > Twelve (I *think*) RV's that LANDED. Some that either didn't
> > find it or otherewise chose not to land and Len you thought
> > there would be only THREE planes!!
> >
> > Ha! We sure surprised you on that one didn't we. Next time.
> > We might even do better.
> >
> > Would you believe Ken and I had just left a SC Breakfast Club
> > fly-in at the Darlington Speedway??? So we had a VERY early
> > start. :-) Fortunately it was "along the way".
> >
> >
> > I tried to get a shot of every plane that arrived but I think
> > I missed the RV6A that arrived after we went inside. They are
> > not great shots but if someone wants one at full rez, let me know.
> >
> > To whosoever took it, I really like the shot of me in "Papa Juliette"
> > landing with the trees in the background. Would like to have
> > a "hi-rez"
> > version sent to me at: james(at)nextupventures.com if at all possible.
> >
> > And the formation practice was a nice finishing touch. You
> > could tell that Bill was getting better by the MINUTE!!
> > (Being ex-military helps it seems
> > :-) ) In one of the shots you get to see that "magic
> > moment" when there
> > was symmetry and stability. Doesn't have to be so close ...
> > just symmetric and stable. LOOKED GREAT Bill. I suspect your
> > passenger/photographer
> > (Robert) was having a good time too.
> >
> > I look forward to more gatherings and more formation PRACTICE.
> >
> > Thanks!!
> >
> > James
> >
> >
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> > Matronics Forums.
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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| From: | bill crothers <bill28104(at)yahoo.com> |
nice work Rad...bill
--- Larry Bowen wrote:
> Bowen"
>
> It was very nice to see so many members of the RV
> family again. We have to
> do it more often. Radmir uploaded some pictures
> here
>
> http://bowenaero.com/copper/thumbnails.php?album=38
>
> And I'll have some on my site later on....
>
> Cheers,
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry(at)BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: bill crothers [mailto:bill28104(at)yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 5:49 PM
> > To: rv-ers
> > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: stanton's
> >
> crothers
> > -->
> >
> > Great afternoon guys. Nice to see so many happy
> RV faces.
> > Special thx to James and Ken for the formation
> practice.
> > Robt. Vinroot took some great pix and will post on
> site.
> > Maybe others will get excited and join in...Once
> you are
> > comfortable in your RV, its the greatest
> experience...Until
> > next time...Bill Crothers
> >
> >
> >
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| From: | bill crothers <bill28104(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Photos of Stanton's from the Air |
we missed you and worried about you when you didn't
land...seeya next time...bill
--- Ed Anderson wrote:
> Anderson"
>
> For anyone who anticipates flying to Stanton's BBQ.
> This URL has PHOTOS! of what it looks like from the
> air. I now realize I did fly over the strip -
> (recognize it from the photo and what appeared to be
> come kind of lime line markings near the center )
> but simply did not recognize it as such.
>
> Ed
>
> Ed Anderson
> Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
> Matthews, NC
> eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com
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| Subject: | A little pick-me-up |
| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
This video was posted on the SoCal RVlist. Nice!
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
>
> http://home.scarlet.be/~mirhaus/airrace.wmv
>
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| From: | "Ed Anderson" <eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Photos of Stanton's from the Air |
Thanks, Bill
I apologize for any concern I may have caused. Upon deciding to head back
home, I should have attempted to contact someone on 122.9 and let them know
I was headed back to the air patch. Next time - well, next time I'll land
{:>)
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From: "bill crothers" <bill28104(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Photos of Stanton's from the Air
>
> we missed you and worried about you when you didn't
> land...seeya next time...bill
> --- Ed Anderson wrote:
>
> > Anderson"
> >
> > For anyone who anticipates flying to Stanton's BBQ.
> > This URL has PHOTOS! of what it looks like from the
> > air. I now realize I did fly over the strip -
> > (recognize it from the photo and what appeared to be
> > come kind of lime line markings near the center )
> > but simply did not recognize it as such.
> >
> > Ed
> >
> > Ed Anderson
> > Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
> > Matthews, NC
> > eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com
> >
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| Subject: | Re: missed stantons |
In a message dated 12/12/04 2:25:48 PM Eastern Standard Time,
eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com writes:
Well, got airborne after fixing fuel leak. However, power was not what it
should be (probably my new homemade muffler is still too restrictive), so
flew down to Stantons anyhow, but never found it. Decided that with my reduced
power and a grass strip that I had not flown into before (and possibly soft
ground after recent rains) that the prudent course was to head back.
Sorry I missed you folks, next time!!!
Ed Anderson
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Ed:
You missed a great time ... lots of people came .. filled up the back room
at Stantons !!
Len Leggette, RV-8A
Greensboro, N.C. N910LL
294 hrs
________________________________________________________________________________
SERV:
What a wonderful turnout !!! Who cares if we don't get answers on email ...
just great seeing everyone show up.
Lots of talk and interest in trying to set up a regular monthly meeting and
place so .... drumroll ..... first Saturday of each month at Stantons . Now
that does not mean it is Stantons and only Stantons but it will be nice to
establish a place and time that we don't have to worry about planning all the
details !!
I think we should also move the time back for the winter to 11:00am. That
way we can have some fun flying afterwards without everyone having to hurry
back home. We will always have Sunday as the rain date ... if it has to get
moved to Sunday .. time will be 1:00pm allowing for church.
We will get it posted to the calendar. Larry may also be able to add
something to the front page of the website ... we meet the first Saturday of each
month at Stantons at 11:00am.
As other interesting places come up ... we will change the meeting place for
that month. Just as with most organizations that you may be a part of ...
you won't make every meeting ... but ... you now have a regular scheduled time
and place where you can meet up with some SERV guys !!
Thanks to everyone that came and especially to all the guys who flew a long
ways to be with us ....
James & Ken - Columbia, SC
Stormy - Roanoke, Va
Dennis - Greenville, NC
See you at Stantons on Saturday January 2nd at 11:00am.
Len Leggette, RV-8A
Greensboro, N.C. N910LL
294 hrs
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| From: | "James E. Clark" <james(at)nextupventures.com> |
| Subject: | A request for all ... |
I have a request for all of us.
Can we hereby grant permission to use any photos shared among us for any
non-commercial activity unless otherwise stated?
For example, I would like to use some of the various photos either on a
website or in our EAA Chapter newsletter but I would like to have
**permission** to do so.
Not a big deal for most people but a REALLY big deal for some.
Any pictures I have shared can be used by any of our group.
James
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: A request for all ... |
In a message dated 12/13/04 10:48:45 AM Eastern Standard Time,
james(at)nextupventures.com writes:
I have a request for all of us.
Can we hereby grant permission to use any photos shared among us for any
non-commercial activity unless otherwise stated?
For example, I would like to use some of the various photos either on a
website or in our EAA Chapter newsletter but I would like to have
**permission** to do so.
Not a big deal for most people but a REALLY big deal for some.
Any pictures I have shared can be used by any of our group.
James
You can use anything of mine !!
Len
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "James E. Clark" <james(at)nextupventures.com> |
Comments below ...
James
{SNIP}
>
>
> SERV:
>
> What a wonderful turnout !!! Who cares if we don't get answers
> on email ...
> just great seeing everyone show up.
>
And after your "appeal", I bet you get more email responses next time!! :-)
> Lots of talk and interest in trying to set up a regular monthly
> meeting and
> place so .... drumroll ..... first Saturday of each month at
> Stantons . Now
> that does not mean it is Stantons and only Stantons but it will
> be nice to
> establish a place and time that we don't have to worry about
> planning all the
> details !!
Ya know, I was thinking. If we do that, some of those pictures on the wall
back there should be RVs!!!! Maybe if we show up as such a group with a few
8x10's they might put some on the wall. I just remember sitting there
thinking that I bet no other group flies in and fills up that room. And
didn't see a single RV on the wall. :-}
>
> I think we should also move the time back for the winter to
> 11:00am. That
> way we can have some fun flying afterwards without everyone
> having to hurry
> back home. We will always have Sunday as the rain date ... if it
> has to get
> moved to Sunday .. time will be 1:00pm allowing for church.
Sounds like a plan.
>
> We will get it posted to the calendar. Larry may also be able to add
> something to the front page of the website ... we meet the first
> Saturday of each
> month at Stantons at 11:00am.
>
> As other interesting places come up ... we will change the
> meeting place for
> that month. Just as with most organizations that you may be a
> part of ...
> you won't make every meeting ... but ... you now have a regular
> scheduled time
> and place where you can meet up with some SERV guys !!
We probably should keep a running list floating about for additional places.
For example, there was a mention of "Steamers" just down the road from
"Fogmore International" (Beaufort, SC) <<< NOT THE MILITARY BASE! (another
story) >>>
>
> Thanks to everyone that came and especially to all the guys who
> flew a long
> ways to be with us ....
>
> James & Ken - Columbia, SC
Wasn't that far for us but thanks.
> Stormy - Roanoke, Va
> Dennis - Greenville, NC
>
> See you at Stantons on Saturday January 2nd at 11:00am.
****
Might want to re-think this one. Saturday is January 1st.
****
James E. Clark, RV6
Columbia, SC N996PJ
400+ hours
>
> Len Leggette, RV-8A
> Greensboro, N.C. N910LL
> 294 hrs
>
>
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| From: | Rad Z <microsmurfer(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: A request for all ... |
That would be fine with me. The only emphasis is on
non-commercial use.
I like the idea of taking a few 8x10's down to
Stantons.. not sure if they'll put 'em up, but it's
worth a try.
Radomir
-7A Fuselage
--- "James E. Clark" wrote:
> Clark"
>
> I have a request for all of us.
>
> Can we hereby grant permission to use any photos
> shared among us for any
> non-commercial activity unless otherwise stated?
>
> For example, I would like to use some of the various
> photos either on a
> website or in our EAA Chapter newsletter but I would
> like to have
> **permission** to do so.
>
> Not a big deal for most people but a REALLY big deal
> for some.
>
> Any pictures I have shared can be used by any of our
> group.
>
> James
>
>
>
> -
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> Forums.
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In a message dated 12/13/04 10:58:49 AM Eastern Standard Time,
james(at)nextupventures.com writes:
Might want to re-think this one. Saturday is January 1st.
I immediately make a mistake .... don't know if anyone is planning to fly
on New Years Day .... something to be talked about I guess ????????
Len
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| Subject: | Re: A request for all ... |
| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
Fine by me. A footnote like "Photo - Joe Pilot" is usually a good idea.
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
James E. Clark said:
>
>
> I have a request for all of us.
>
> Can we hereby grant permission to use any photos shared among us for any
> non-commercial activity unless otherwise stated?
>
> For example, I would like to use some of the various photos either on a
> website or in our EAA Chapter newsletter but I would like to have
> **permission** to do so.
>
> Not a big deal for most people but a REALLY big deal for some.
>
> Any pictures I have shared can be used by any of our group.
>
> James
>
>
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| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
I'll probably be available on the first. Unless down for maint.
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
Lenleg(at)aol.com said:
>
>
> In a message dated 12/13/04 10:58:49 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> james(at)nextupventures.com writes:
>
> Might want to re-think this one. Saturday is January 1st.
>
>
> I immediately make a mistake .... don't know if anyone is planning to
> fly
> on New Years Day .... something to be talked about I guess ????????
>
> Len
>
>
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| From: | Mike.Munn(at)fluor.com |
(Release 5.0.13a |April 8, 2004) at 12/13/2004 10:11:35 AM
Stantons may be closed on Jan. 1. Does someone have the tel # to check?
Mike Munn
"Larry Bowen"
To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
Sent by:
owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@ma cc:
tronics.com
12/13/2004 01:12 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List:
Stantons
Please respond to
rvsoutheast-list
.
I'll probably be available on the first. Unless down for maint.
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
Lenleg(at)aol.com said:
>
>
> In a message dated 12/13/04 10:58:49 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> james(at)nextupventures.com writes:
>
> Might want to re-think this one. Saturday is January 1st.
>
>
> I immediately make a mistake .... don't know if anyone is planning to
> fly
> on New Years Day .... something to be talked about I guess ????????
>
> Len
>
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The telephone number is (843) 265-4855 but they are only open Wed - Sunday.
I will call them on Wednesday and check their schedule for the holidays and
then post a note.
Thanks !!
Len
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| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
| Subject: | A request for all ... |
Along these same lines, one of the waitresses at Stantons asked me what
group we represented and if I could email her some of the pictures we had
all taken. I was going to send her links to the pictures. Alright?
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rad Z [mailto:microsmurfer(at)yahoo.com]
> Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 11:44 AM
> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: A request for all ...
>
>
> That would be fine with me. The only emphasis is on
> non-commercial use.
>
> I like the idea of taking a few 8x10's down to Stantons.. not
> sure if they'll put 'em up, but it's worth a try.
>
> Radomir
> -7A Fuselage
>
>
> --- "James E. Clark" wrote:
>
> > Clark"
> >
> > I have a request for all of us.
> >
> > Can we hereby grant permission to use any photos shared
> among us for
> > any non-commercial activity unless otherwise stated?
> >
> > For example, I would like to use some of the various photos
> either on
> > a website or in our EAA Chapter newsletter but I would like to have
> > **permission** to do so.
> >
> > Not a big deal for most people but a REALLY big deal for some.
> >
> > Any pictures I have shared can be used by any of our group.
> >
> > James
> >
> >
> >
> > -
> > Contributions
> > any other
> > Forums.
> >
> > http://www.matronics.com/subscription
> > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RVSouthEast-List.htm
> > http://www.matronics.com/archives
> > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
> > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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| From: | bill crothers <bill28104(at)yahoo.com> |
James, what do you think about doing BBQ at your place
on 1-8 instead...we could talk formation basics w/
anyone interested in hearing about it and then go do
some . Any newbees could fly behind like M. Barbee
did to see if their interest is real. It probably
helps to get some feedback from others to encourage
competant pilots w/ no formation experience to take
the next step. This clear cool weather is great for
this. remember, summer means haze and thermals.
bill...any others who would like to comment pls. step
up...
--- "James E. Clark" wrote:
> Clark"
>
> Comments below ...
> James
>
>
> {SNIP}
>
> >
> Lenleg(at)aol.com
> >
> > SERV:
> >
> > What a wonderful turnout !!! Who cares if we
> don't get answers
> > on email ...
> > just great seeing everyone show up.
> >
>
> And after your "appeal", I bet you get more email
> responses next time!! :-)
>
> > Lots of talk and interest in trying to set up a
> regular monthly
> > meeting and
> > place so .... drumroll ..... first Saturday of
> each month at
> > Stantons . Now
> > that does not mean it is Stantons and only
> Stantons but it will
> > be nice to
> > establish a place and time that we don't have to
> worry about
> > planning all the
> > details !!
>
> Ya know, I was thinking. If we do that, some of
> those pictures on the wall
> back there should be RVs!!!! Maybe if we show up as
> such a group with a few
> 8x10's they might put some on the wall. I just
> remember sitting there
> thinking that I bet no other group flies in and
> fills up that room. And
> didn't see a single RV on the wall. :-}
>
> >
> > I think we should also move the time back for the
> winter to
> > 11:00am. That
> > way we can have some fun flying afterwards without
> everyone
> > having to hurry
> > back home. We will always have Sunday as the rain
> date ... if it
> > has to get
> > moved to Sunday .. time will be 1:00pm allowing
> for church.
>
> Sounds like a plan.
>
>
> >
> > We will get it posted to the calendar. Larry may
> also be able to add
> > something to the front page of the website ... we
> meet the first
> > Saturday of each
> > month at Stantons at 11:00am.
> >
> > As other interesting places come up ... we will
> change the
> > meeting place for
> > that month. Just as with most organizations that
> you may be a
> > part of ...
> > you won't make every meeting ... but ... you now
> have a regular
> > scheduled time
> > and place where you can meet up with some SERV
> guys !!
>
> We probably should keep a running list floating
> about for additional places.
> For example, there was a mention of "Steamers" just
> down the road from
> "Fogmore International" (Beaufort, SC) <<< NOT THE
> MILITARY BASE! (another
> story) >>>
>
> >
> > Thanks to everyone that came and especially to all
> the guys who
> > flew a long
> > ways to be with us ....
> >
> > James & Ken - Columbia, SC
>
> Wasn't that far for us but thanks.
>
>
> > Stormy - Roanoke, Va
> > Dennis - Greenville, NC
> >
> > See you at Stantons on Saturday January 2nd at
> 11:00am.
>
> ****
>
> Might want to re-think this one. Saturday is January
> 1st.
>
> ****
>
> James E. Clark, RV6
> Columbia, SC N996PJ
> 400+ hours
>
> >
> > Len Leggette, RV-8A
> > Greensboro, N.C. N910LL
> > 294 hrs
> >
> >
>
>
>
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>
>
>
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| From: | "James E. Clark" <james(at)nextupventures.com> |
| Subject: | A request for all ... |
Cool by me.
If we are going to be going there several times a year as a group, it is
good to have good relationship with them.
James
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Larry
> Bowen
> Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 7:21 PM
> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: A request for all ...
>
>
>
>
> Along these same lines, one of the waitresses at Stantons asked me what
> group we represented and if I could email her some of the pictures we had
> all taken. I was going to send her links to the pictures. Alright?
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry(at)BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rad Z [mailto:microsmurfer(at)yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 11:44 AM
> > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: A request for all ...
> >
> >
> > That would be fine with me. The only emphasis is on
> > non-commercial use.
> >
> > I like the idea of taking a few 8x10's down to Stantons.. not
> > sure if they'll put 'em up, but it's worth a try.
> >
> > Radomir
> > -7A Fuselage
> >
> >
> > --- "James E. Clark" wrote:
> >
> > > Clark"
> > >
> > > I have a request for all of us.
> > >
> > > Can we hereby grant permission to use any photos shared
> > among us for
> > > any non-commercial activity unless otherwise stated?
> > >
> > > For example, I would like to use some of the various photos
> > either on
> > > a website or in our EAA Chapter newsletter but I would like to have
> > > **permission** to do so.
> > >
> > > Not a big deal for most people but a REALLY big deal for some.
> > >
> > > Any pictures I have shared can be used by any of our group.
> > >
> > > James
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -
> > > Contributions
> > > any other
> > > Forums.
> > >
> > > http://www.matronics.com/subscription
> > > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RVSouthEast-List.htm
> > > http://www.matronics.com/archives
> > > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
> > > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________
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> > http://celebrity.mail.yahoo.com
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> >
> >
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>
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| Subject: | Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 16 Msgs - 12/13/04 |
| From: | lee.logan(at)gulfstream.com |
10:43:36 AM
Don't forget our one, lone RV-4 at Ridgeland, SC for a destination. We
have 2,700' of hard surface and 1,800' of grass, reasonable ramp space and
lots of grass to park on. There is a restaurant in town that has a
wonderful home-style buffet at noon that is terrific. Come with plenty of
gas though, ours is expensive!!
Len: Good to meet you at Phil's Sunday. If you guys ever want to come our
way, let me know and I'll set up parking and transportation to lunch... We
have some interesting birds on the field here including a soaring club, and
several antiques including a 1928 Fairchild, a 1929 Waco and a 1930 Taper
Wing Waco.
Regards,
Lee...
Lee Logan
Director, Government Programs and Sales Support
Gulfstream Aerospace Corporation
Savannah, Georgia
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| Subject: | Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 16 Msgs - 12/13/04 |
Lee:
Hope you continue to mend !!! Looks like Ridgeland would be a great place
to come to after joining up with Ken & James in Columbia for a formation trip
!!!!
Len
Don't forget our one, lone RV-4 at Ridgeland, SC for a destination. We
have 2,700' of hard surface and 1,800' of grass, reasonable ramp space and
lots of grass to park on. There is a restaurant in town that has a
wonderful home-style buffet at noon that is terrific. Come with plenty of
gas though, ours is expensive!!
Len: Good to meet you at Phil's Sunday. If you guys ever want to come our
way, let me know and I'll set up parking and transportation to lunch... We
have some interesting birds on the field here including a soaring club, and
several antiques including a 1928 Fairchild, a 1929 Waco and a 1930 Taper
Wing Waco.
Regards,
Lee...
Lee Logan
Director, Government Programs and Sales Support
Gulfstream Aerospace Corporation
Savannah, Georgia
________________________________________________________________________________
12/13/04
| Subject: | Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 16 Msgs - |
12/13/04
| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
Sounds like a great destination!
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
lee.logan(at)gulfstream.com said:
>
>
> Don't forget our one, lone RV-4 at Ridgeland, SC for a destination. We
> have 2,700' of hard surface and 1,800' of grass, reasonable ramp space and
> lots of grass to park on. There is a restaurant in town that has a
> wonderful home-style buffet at noon that is terrific. Come with plenty of
> gas though, ours is expensive!!
> Len: Good to meet you at Phil's Sunday. If you guys ever want to come our
> way, let me know and I'll set up parking and transportation to lunch...
> We
> have some interesting birds on the field here including a soaring club,
> and
> several antiques including a 1928 Fairchild, a 1929 Waco and a 1930 Taper
> Wing Waco.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Lee...
>
> Lee Logan
> Director, Government Programs and Sales Support
> Gulfstream Aerospace Corporation
> Savannah, Georgia
>
>
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| From: | N8391Mike(at)aol.com |
does anyone has any sugestions or experience for an auto pilot wing leveler
only coupled with a GPS for heading .
Andre M Robert.
RV6 , 718AM 42 hrs
at shiloh
any info would be greatly appreciated
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> |
Check out pictures of Dean's panel in the gallery:
http://bowenaero.com/copper/index.php?cat=34
-
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
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| Subject: | Re: Dean's Panel |
In a message dated 12/14/04 9:18:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Larry(at)bowenaero.com writes:
Check out pictures of Dean's panel in the gallery:
That panel is awesome .... I could put that in my plane .... OR .... send my
two kids to college and build a new house !!!
Can't wait for you to get it in the air Dean ... thanks for already being a
loyal member of SERV ... and you don't even have the plane yet !!!
Len
________________________________________________________________________________
In a message dated 12/14/04 9:11:22 PM Eastern Standard Time,
N8391Mike(at)aol.com writes:
does anyone has any sugestions or experience for an auto pilot wing leveler
only coupled with a GPS for heading .
Andre M Robert.
RV6 , 718AM 42 hrs
at shiloh
any info would be greatly appreciated
The most popular right now is probably TruTrak but I have the Tro EZ Pilot
and love it. I use the Garmin 295 handheld coupled to the EZ Pilot and it
flies beautifully. Will fly the heading , course, intersect the course ..etc.
Also, one of the best bargains out there on autopilots right now.
Len Leggette, RV-8A
Greensboro, N.C. N910LL
294 hrs
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Columbia Saturday? |
James & Ken:
What are you guys doing on Saturday? If the weather holds out .... some
practice?
Len Leggette, RV-8A
Greensboro, N.C. N910LL
294 hrs
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com> |
Congratulations to Dale Ensing!
This morning at around 9:30 AM Dale and N118DA took to the sky for a perfect
40 minute flight. The flight was from Aero Plantation to Monroe. The first
post flight with the cowl off found no defects.
Having seen his face, I can tell you, Dale really knows what the RV grin is
all about!
Steve Glasgow
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Dale does it! |
In a message dated 12/15/04 3:29:48 PM Eastern Standard Time,
willfly(at)carolina.rr.com writes:
Congratulations to Dale Ensing!
Awesome .... another plane to join in SERV activities !!!
Congrats Dale !!!
Len Leggette, RV-8A
Greensboro, N.C. N910LL
294 hrs
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Ed Anderson" <eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Dale does it! |
Congratulations, Dale. Way to have a first flight
Ed Anderson
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Dale does it!
>
> Congratulations to Dale Ensing!
>
>
> This morning at around 9:30 AM Dale and N118DA took to the sky for a
perfect
> 40 minute flight. The flight was from Aero Plantation to Monroe. The
first
> post flight with the cowl off found no defects.
>
>
> Having seen his face, I can tell you, Dale really knows what the RV grin
is
> all about!
>
>
> Steve Glasgow
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Ken Harrill <KHarrill(at)osa.state.sc.us> |
| Subject: | Columbia Saturday? |
Len,
I have a commitment on Saturday. How about Sunday afternoon?
Ken
-----Original Message-----
From: Lenleg(at)aol.com [mailto:Lenleg(at)aol.com]
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Columbia Saturday?
James & Ken:
What are you guys doing on Saturday? If the weather holds out .... some
practice?
Len Leggette, RV-8A
Greensboro, N.C. N910LL
294 hrs
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | DWENSING(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Dale does it! |
Thanks to all of you, and to Wilbur & Orville, and to Van!
Looking forward to joining up with The SouthEast RV bunch in the air.
Steve Glasgow's first flight assistance made it seem easy.
Dale Ensing
RV-6A N118DE
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| From: | bill crothers <bill28104(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Columbia Saturday? |
I can do either afternoon...bill
--- Ken Harrill wrote:
>
>
> Len,
>
> I have a commitment on Saturday. How about Sunday
> afternoon?
>
> Ken
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lenleg(at)aol.com [mailto:Lenleg(at)aol.com]
> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Columbia Saturday?
>
> Lenleg(at)aol.com
>
> James & Ken:
>
> What are you guys doing on Saturday? If the weather
> holds out .... some
> practice?
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> 294 hrs
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| From: | bill crothers <bill28104(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Dale does it! |
Welcome to THE club...look forward to seeing you at
our growing # of events. bill c.
--- Steve Glasgow wrote:
> Glasgow"
>
> Congratulations to Dale Ensing!
>
>
> This morning at around 9:30 AM Dale and N118DA took
> to the sky for a perfect
> 40 minute flight. The flight was from Aero
> Plantation to Monroe. The first
> post flight with the cowl off found no defects.
>
>
> Having seen his face, I can tell you, Dale really
> knows what the RV grin is
> all about!
>
>
> Steve Glasgow
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November 17, 2004 - December 15, 2004
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