RVSouthEast-Archive.digest.vol-bg

November 10, 2006 - December 13, 2006



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From: "tadsargent" <tadsargent(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Annual
Date: Nov 10, 2006
yep, need some help? Stripes ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com> Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 7:58 AM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Annual > > > My last Annual was signed off 12/08/2005. Do I have to the end of > December before the next one is due? > Cappy > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Annual
Date: Nov 10, 2006
I may take you up on that. I'll buy lunch. Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: tadsargent To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 11:55 AM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Annual yep, need some help? Stripes ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com> To: "SERV" Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 7:58 AM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Annual > > > My last Annual was signed off 12/08/2005. Do I have to the end of > December before the next one is due? > Cappy > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Fly In
Date: Nov 10, 2006
That's good for me. Saturday is doable but Sunday is really awesome. Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Boyd To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 7:21 AM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Fly In Given how fast this thread has degenerated, I think our group needs to go somewhere (not a truck stop) and soon. How 'bout that outfit in NC where you can revisit Mayberry, RFD and ride in Barney's patrol car and all? -Stormy On 11/9/06, tadsargent wrote: > > Now I am confused. How much rolling, for how much money and what is the > truck stop for. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "bburril" <bburril(at)carolina.rr.com> > To: > Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:37 PM > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Fly In > > > > > > > > That can be arranged just meet me at the truck stop and bring money. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "tadsargent" <tadsargent(at)bellsouth.net> > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:30 PM > > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Fly In > > > > > >> > >> > >> I know but she is in Greece till Tuesday. Hey just wondering you guys > >> are quick to help a guy when HE is out of town how about a guy when his > >> wife is out of town. > >> Stripes > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "bburril" <bburril(at)carolina.rr.com> > >> To: > >> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:15 PM > >> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Fly In > >> > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> Hey Tad,some things we all don,t need to know and your wife might not > >>> like you telling everything. > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "tadsargent" <tadsargent(at)bellsouth.net> > >>> To: > >>> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:11 PM > >>> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Fly In > >>> > >>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> I roll my wife all the time. > >>>> Stripes > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>> From: "Bill Boyd" <sportav8r(at)gmail.com> > >>>> To: > >>>> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 1:00 PM > >>>> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Fly In > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On 11/9/06, Steve Glasgow wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Ron and Cappy made this one last year and it was the best we have > >>>>>> ever been > >>>>>> to. Lot's for RV's and good food. Put it on your colander. > >>>>>> Cappy and Lynnie are planning on it for sure. > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Looks like a good time. A bit far for me though. Besides, Miriam > >>>>> uses the colander to rinse our lettuce; I'm not allowed to mess with > >>>>> it. > >>>>> > >>>>> A side note: she asked for a roll the other day, coming back from a > >>>>> visit to our kids in Farmville (KFVX). I gave her my smoothest > >>>>> performance (o-kaaaaay.... no Mile-High Club comments, you wise guys). > >>>>> She immediately said, "Since I know what to expect now, I think you > >>>>> better do another one ." > >>>>> > >>>>> I've brought up the subject before, but never pushed it. This is the > >>>>> first time she's been receptive, and she brought it up completely on > >>>>> her own. Patience is a virtue ;-) When I asked her why once was not > >>>>> enough, she said "It never is with you." No, actually, she didn't > >>>>> want Donna to have all the bragging rights. She figured going in for > >>>>> just one roll would leave her in second place. > >>>>> > >>>>> Guess I don't need Dennis to roll my wife, now. Nice of him to offer, > >>>>> though. Who says we're not a friendly bunch? > >>>>> > >>>>> -Stormy > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: N8391Mike(at)aol.com
Date: Nov 10, 2006
Subject: Re: grip stick
to far for me Andre M Robert ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 10, 2006
From: bill crothers <bill28104(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Annual
end of month, do like me and wait til 1/1 and get 13 months. reno --- Steve Glasgow wrote: > Glasgow" > > My last Annual was signed off 12/08/2005. > Do I have to the end of December before the next one > is due? > > Cappy > > > Click on > about > provided > www.buildersbooks.com > Admin. > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List > > > > > Want to start your own business? http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "tadsargent" <tadsargent(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Annual
Date: Nov 10, 2006
Give me a jingle, I'll need to start mine soon. You know It can be done in stages and I am bored at home. Stripes ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Glasgow To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 12:30 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Annual I may take you up on that. I'll buy lunch. Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: tadsargent To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 11:55 AM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Annual yep, need some help? Stripes ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com> To: "SERV" Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 7:58 AM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Annual > > > My last Annual was signed off 12/08/2005. Do I have to the end of > December before the next one is due? > Cappy > > > > p; -- Please Support Your Lists This Month (And Get the Annual link Free * AeroElectric http://www.m= ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Annual
Date: Nov 10, 2006
It just matters when you sign it off. I'm thinking on starting when we get back from Aruba. Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: tadsargent To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 6:27 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Annual Give me a jingle, I'll need to start mine soon. You know It can be done in stages and I am bored at home. Stripes ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Glasgow To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 12:30 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Annual I may take you up on that. I'll buy lunch. Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: tadsargent To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 11:55 AM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Annual yep, need some help? Stripes ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com> To: "SERV" Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 7:58 AM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Annual > > > My last Annual was signed off 12/08/2005. Do I have to the end of > December before the next one is due? > Cappy > > > > p; -- Please Support Your Lists This Month (And Get the Annual link Free * AeroElectric http://www.m= href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com href="http://www.kitlog.com">www.kitlog.com href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.m atronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 10, 2006
From: "Bill Boyd" <sportav8r(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Fly In
That's okay. You and Lori can plan it; I'll give you the link- http://www.southern-aviator.com/editorial/articledetail.lasso?-token.key=10097&-token.src=column&-nothing I wasn't thinking of doing it during Mayberry Days, just sometime. -Stormy On 11/10/06, tadsargent wrote: > > Saturday? I think you just volunteered to plan this event. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Boyd" <sportav8r(at)gmail.com> > To: > Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 7:21 AM > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Fly In > > > > > > Given how fast this thread has degenerated, I think our group needs to > > go somewhere (not a truck stop) and soon. > > > > How 'bout that outfit in NC where you can revisit Mayberry, RFD and > > ride in Barney's patrol car and all? > > > > -Stormy > > > > On 11/9/06, tadsargent wrote: > >> > >> > >> Now I am confused. How much rolling, for how much money and what is the > >> truck stop for. > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "bburril" <bburril(at)carolina.rr.com> > >> To: > >> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:37 PM > >> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Fly In > >> > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > That can be arranged just meet me at the truck stop and bring money. > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: "tadsargent" <tadsargent(at)bellsouth.net> > >> > To: > >> > Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:30 PM > >> > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Fly In > >> > > >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> I know but she is in Greece till Tuesday. Hey just wondering you guys > >> >> are quick to help a guy when HE is out of town how about a guy when > >> >> his > >> >> wife is out of town. > >> >> Stripes > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> From: "bburril" <bburril(at)carolina.rr.com> > >> >> To: > >> >> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:15 PM > >> >> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Fly In > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> Hey Tad,some things we all don,t need to know and your wife might not > >> >>> like you telling everything. > >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >>> From: "tadsargent" <tadsargent(at)bellsouth.net> > >> >>> To: > >> >>> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:11 PM > >> >>> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Fly In > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> I roll my wife all the time. > >> >>>> Stripes > >> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >>>> From: "Bill Boyd" <sportav8r(at)gmail.com> > >> >>>> To: > >> >>>> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 1:00 PM > >> >>>> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Fly In > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> On 11/9/06, Steve Glasgow wrote: > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> Ron and Cappy made this one last year and it was the best we have > >> >>>>>> ever been > >> >>>>>> to. Lot's for RV's and good food. Put it on your colander. > >> >>>>>> Cappy and Lynnie are planning on it for sure. > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Looks like a good time. A bit far for me though. Besides, Miriam > >> >>>>> uses the colander to rinse our lettuce; I'm not allowed to mess > >> >>>>> with > >> >>>>> it. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> A side note: she asked for a roll the other day, coming back from a > >> >>>>> visit to our kids in Farmville (KFVX). I gave her my smoothest > >> >>>>> performance (o-kaaaaay.... no Mile-High Club comments, you wise > >> >>>>> guys). > >> >>>>> She immediately said, "Since I know what to expect now, I think you > >> >>>>> better do another one ." > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> I've brought up the subject before, but never pushed it. This is > >> >>>>> the > >> >>>>> first time she's been receptive, and she brought it up completely > >> >>>>> on > >> >>>>> her own. Patience is a virtue ;-) When I asked her why once was > >> >>>>> not > >> >>>>> enough, she said "It never is with you." No, actually, she didn't > >> >>>>> want Donna to have all the bragging rights. She figured going in > >> >>>>> for > >> >>>>> just one roll would leave her in second place. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Guess I don't need Dennis to roll my wife, now. Nice of him to > >> >>>>> offer, > >> >>>>> though. Who says we're not a friendly bunch? > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> -Stormy > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 10, 2006
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Wiki...
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From: "tadsargent" <tadsargent(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Fly In
Date: Nov 11, 2006
What is the id for Stateline and what time is Monroe serving today. ----- Original Message ----- From: "bburril" <bburril(at)carolina.rr.com> Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 7:56 AM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Fly In > > > statline is having bbq on saturday and monroe is have hot dogs and a band > saturday nite.Both of these events are free and gas at monroe is > 3.25.Somebody could bring the fat girl from the truch stop. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "tadsargent" <tadsargent(at)bellsouth.net> > To: > Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 7:41 AM > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Fly In > > >> >> >> Saturday? I think you just volunteered to plan this event. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Bill Boyd" <sportav8r(at)gmail.com> >> To: >> Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 7:21 AM >> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Fly In >> >> >>> >>> >>> Given how fast this thread has degenerated, I think our group needs to >>> go somewhere (not a truck stop) and soon. >>> >>> How 'bout that outfit in NC where you can revisit Mayberry, RFD and >>> ride in Barney's patrol car and all? >>> >>> -Stormy >>> >>> On 11/9/06, tadsargent wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Now I am confused. How much rolling, for how much money and what is >>>> the >>>> truck stop for. >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "bburril" <bburril(at)carolina.rr.com> >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:37 PM >>>> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Fly In >>>> >>>> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > That can be arranged just meet me at the truck stop and bring money. >>>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>>> > From: "tadsargent" <tadsargent(at)bellsouth.net> >>>> > To: >>>> > Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:30 PM >>>> > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Fly In >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> I know but she is in Greece till Tuesday. Hey just wondering you >>>> >> guys >>>> >> are quick to help a guy when HE is out of town how about a guy when >>>> >> his >>>> >> wife is out of town. >>>> >> Stripes >>>> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> >> From: "bburril" <bburril(at)carolina.rr.com> >>>> >> To: >>>> >> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:15 PM >>>> >> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Fly In >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Hey Tad,some things we all don,t need to know and your wife might >>>> >>> not >>>> >>> like you telling everything. >>>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> >>> From: "tadsargent" <tadsargent(at)bellsouth.net> >>>> >>> To: >>>> >>> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:11 PM >>>> >>> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Fly In >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I roll my wife all the time. >>>> >>>> Stripes >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> >>>> From: "Bill Boyd" <sportav8r(at)gmail.com> >>>> >>>> To: >>>> >>>> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 1:00 PM >>>> >>>> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Fly In >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> On 11/9/06, Steve Glasgow wrote: >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> Ron and Cappy made this one last year and it was the best we >>>> >>>>>> have >>>> >>>>>> ever been >>>> >>>>>> to. Lot's for RV's and good food. Put it on your colander. >>>> >>>>>> Cappy and Lynnie are planning on it for sure. >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> Looks like a good time. A bit far for me though. Besides, >>>> >>>>> Miriam >>>> >>>>> uses the colander to rinse our lettuce; I'm not allowed to mess >>>> >>>>> with >>>> >>>>> it. >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> A side note: she asked for a roll the other day, coming back from >>>> >>>>> a >>>> >>>>> visit to our kids in Farmville (KFVX). I gave her my smoothest >>>> >>>>> performance (o-kaaaaay.... no Mile-High Club comments, you wise >>>> >>>>> guys). >>>> >>>>> She immediately said, "Since I know what to expect now, I think >>>> >>>>> you >>>> >>>>> better do another one ." >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> I've brought up the subject before, but never pushed it. This is >>>> >>>>> the >>>> >>>>> first time she's been receptive, and she brought it up completely >>>> >>>>> on >>>> >>>>> her own. Patience is a virtue ;-) When I asked her why once was >>>> >>>>> not >>>> >>>>> enough, she said "It never is with you." No, actually, she >>>> >>>>> didn't >>>> >>>>> want Donna to have all the bragging rights. She figured going in >>>> >>>>> for >>>> >>>>> just one roll would leave her in second place. >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> Guess I don't need Dennis to roll my wife, now. Nice of him to >>>> >>>>> offer, >>>> >>>>> though. Who says we're not a friendly bunch? >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> -Stormy >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 13, 2006
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: WLAS [Please Read]
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From: "Ron Schreck" <ronschreck(at)alltel.net>
Subject: Little River Fly-in
Date: Nov 15, 2006
Looks like the weather is going to be great for the fly-in at Little River Airpark, FL on Saturday. I plan on leaving Gold Hill about 9:00 AM and will have an empty back seat if anyone is interested in coming along. I can stop somewhere along the route to pick up a gib if that works. Will plan on being back at Gold Hill by 5 PM. Mike Munn, if you want to formate let me know. Ron Schreck RV-8 "Miss Izzy" Gold Hill Airpark, NC ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 15, 2006
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: LOC
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From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Little River Fly-in
Date: Nov 15, 2006
MessageI will fly back with you. Lynnie and I are planning on going to LAL on Friday to see the Cougar airplane my uncle designed and built in 1953. We hope to be at Little River when you arrive. Glad you can make it. To the rest of SERV. This is one great event only 2 hours from CLT and I know you will enjoy it. Cappy LITTLE RIVER AIRPARK FLY-IN NOVEMBER 18, 2006 November 18, 2006 (Rain Date Nov. 19th) Little River Airpark (McAlpin, FL) Identifier: FL10 Coordinates: N30*07.30 W082*53.91 Frequency: 122.9 (JAX sectional) Runways: RIGHT HAND TRAFFIC FOR RUNWAY 36 LEFT HAND TRAFFIC FOR RUNWAY 18 Use taxiway located on west side of runway 18/36. DO NOT TAXI on runway. Park where directed by ground personnel. Burgers and hot dogs with all the fixings will be served. $5.00 donation please. Lunch at 12:00 (noon). Coffee and donuts for early birds. ALL ACTIVITIES WILL BE HELD AT NORTH END OF RUNWAY 36. NOTE: THIS IS A PRIVATE AIRPARK. LAND AT YOUR OWN RISK! CAUTION: TOWER N.E. OF AIRPORT. NO FUEL AVAILABLE. For further information contact Jim Driscoll: 386-963-3539 David Sims: 386-963-4570 Jerry Cornwell: 386-963-4954 ----- Original Message ----- From: Ron Schreck To: 'RV Southeast List' Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 7:34 AM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Little River Fly-in Looks like the weather is going to be great for the fly-in at Little River Airpark, FL on Saturday. I plan on leaving Gold Hill about 9:00 AM and will have an empty back seat if anyone is interested in coming along. I can stop somewhere along the route to pick up a gib if that works. Will plan on being back at Gold Hill by 5 PM. Mike Munn, if you want to formate let me know. Ron Schreck RV-8 "Miss Izzy" Gold Hill Airpark, NC ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Randy Utsey" <djdist(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 11/15/06
Date: Nov 16, 2006
Ya'll fly safe! I'll join you next year in my bird! Randy Utsey RV-7 canopy work N55CU reserved Charlotte ----- Original Message ----- From: "RVSouthEast-List Digest Server" <rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 2:57 AM Subject: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 11/15/06 > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete RVSouthEast-List Digest can also be found in either of > the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the RVSouthEast-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text > editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/rvsoutheast-list/Digest.RVSouthEast-List.2006-11-15.html > > Text Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/rvsoutheast-list/Digest.RVSouthEast-List.2006-11-15.txt > > > =============================================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > =============================================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > RVSouthEast-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Wed 11/15/06: 2 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 04:35 AM - Little River Fly-in (Ron Schreck) > 2. 05:19 AM - Re: Little River Fly-in (Steve Glasgow) > > > ________________________________ Message 1 > _____________________________________ > > > From: "Ron Schreck" <ronschreck(at)alltel.net> > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Little River Fly-in > > Looks like the weather is going to be great for the fly-in at Little > River Airpark, FL on Saturday. I plan on leaving Gold Hill about 9:00 > AM and will have an empty back seat if anyone is interested in coming > along. I can stop somewhere along the route to pick up a gib if that > works. Will plan on being back at Gold Hill by 5 PM. > > Mike Munn, if you want to formate let me know. > > Ron Schreck > RV-8 "Miss Izzy" > Gold Hill Airpark, NC > > ________________________________ Message 2 > _____________________________________ > > > From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com> > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Little River Fly-in > > MessageI will fly back with you. Lynnie and I are planning on going to > LAL on Friday to see the Cougar airplane my uncle designed and built in > 1953. > > We hope to be at Little River when you arrive. Glad you can make it. > > To the rest of SERV. This is one great event only 2 hours from CLT and > I know you will enjoy it. > > Cappy > > LITTLE RIVER AIRPARK FLY-IN NOVEMBER 18, 2006 > > November 18, 2006 (Rain Date Nov. 19th) > Little River Airpark (McAlpin, FL) > Identifier: FL10 > Coordinates: N30*07.30 W082*53.91 > Frequency: 122.9 (JAX sectional) > Runways: RIGHT HAND TRAFFIC FOR RUNWAY 36 > LEFT HAND TRAFFIC FOR RUNWAY 18 > Use taxiway located on west side of runway 18/36. DO NOT TAXI on > runway. > Park where directed by ground personnel. > > Burgers and hot dogs with all the fixings will be served. $5.00 > donation > please. Lunch at 12:00 (noon). Coffee and donuts for early birds. > > ALL ACTIVITIES WILL BE HELD AT NORTH END OF RUNWAY 36. > > NOTE: THIS IS A PRIVATE AIRPARK. LAND AT YOUR OWN RISK! > CAUTION: TOWER N.E. OF AIRPORT. > NO FUEL AVAILABLE. > > For further information contact Jim Driscoll: 386-963-3539 > David Sims: 386-963-4570 > Jerry Cornwell: 386-963-4954 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ron Schreck > To: 'RV Southeast List' > Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 7:34 AM > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Little River Fly-in > > > Looks like the weather is going to be great for the fly-in at Little > River Airpark, FL on Saturday. I plan on leaving Gold Hill about 9:00 > AM and will have an empty back seat if anyone is interested in coming > along. I can stop somewhere along the route to pick up a gib if that > works. Will plan on being back at Gold Hill by 5 PM. > > Mike Munn, if you want to formate let me know. > > Ron Schreck > RV-8 "Miss Izzy" > Gold Hill Airpark, NC > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Randy Utsey" <djdist(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 11/15/06
Date: Nov 16, 2006
Ya'll fly safe! I'll join you next year in my bird! Randy Utsey RV-7 canopy work N55CU reserved Charlotte ----- Original Message ----- From: "RVSouthEast-List Digest Server" <rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 2:57 AM Subject: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 11/15/06 > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete RVSouthEast-List Digest can also be found in either of > the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the RVSouthEast-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text > editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/rvsoutheast-list/Digest.RVSouthEast-List.2006-11-15.html > > Text Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/rvsoutheast-list/Digest.RVSouthEast-List.2006-11-15.txt > > > =============================================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > =============================================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > RVSouthEast-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Wed 11/15/06: 2 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 04:35 AM - Little River Fly-in (Ron Schreck) > 2. 05:19 AM - Re: Little River Fly-in (Steve Glasgow) > > > ________________________________ Message 1 > _____________________________________ > > > From: "Ron Schreck" <ronschreck(at)alltel.net> > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Little River Fly-in > > Looks like the weather is going to be great for the fly-in at Little > River Airpark, FL on Saturday. I plan on leaving Gold Hill about 9:00 > AM and will have an empty back seat if anyone is interested in coming > along. I can stop somewhere along the route to pick up a gib if that > works. Will plan on being back at Gold Hill by 5 PM. > > Mike Munn, if you want to formate let me know. > > Ron Schreck > RV-8 "Miss Izzy" > Gold Hill Airpark, NC > > ________________________________ Message 2 > _____________________________________ > > > From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com> > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Little River Fly-in > > MessageI will fly back with you. Lynnie and I are planning on going to > LAL on Friday to see the Cougar airplane my uncle designed and built in > 1953. > > We hope to be at Little River when you arrive. Glad you can make it. > > To the rest of SERV. This is one great event only 2 hours from CLT and > I know you will enjoy it. > > Cappy > > LITTLE RIVER AIRPARK FLY-IN NOVEMBER 18, 2006 > > November 18, 2006 (Rain Date Nov. 19th) > Little River Airpark (McAlpin, FL) > Identifier: FL10 > Coordinates: N30*07.30 W082*53.91 > Frequency: 122.9 (JAX sectional) > Runways: RIGHT HAND TRAFFIC FOR RUNWAY 36 > LEFT HAND TRAFFIC FOR RUNWAY 18 > Use taxiway located on west side of runway 18/36. DO NOT TAXI on > runway. > Park where directed by ground personnel. > > Burgers and hot dogs with all the fixings will be served. $5.00 > donation > please. Lunch at 12:00 (noon). Coffee and donuts for early birds. > > ALL ACTIVITIES WILL BE HELD AT NORTH END OF RUNWAY 36. > > NOTE: THIS IS A PRIVATE AIRPARK. LAND AT YOUR OWN RISK! > CAUTION: TOWER N.E. OF AIRPORT. > NO FUEL AVAILABLE. > > For further information contact Jim Driscoll: 386-963-3539 > David Sims: 386-963-4570 > Jerry Cornwell: 386-963-4954 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ron Schreck > To: 'RV Southeast List' > Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 7:34 AM > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Little River Fly-in > > > Looks like the weather is going to be great for the fly-in at Little > River Airpark, FL on Saturday. I plan on leaving Gold Hill about 9:00 > AM and will have an empty back seat if anyone is interested in coming > along. I can stop somewhere along the route to pick up a gib if that > works. Will plan on being back at Gold Hill by 5 PM. > > Mike Munn, if you want to formate let me know. > > Ron Schreck > RV-8 "Miss Izzy" > Gold Hill Airpark, NC > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 11/15/06
Date: Nov 16, 2006
Can't wait. Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: Randy Utsey To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com ; RVSouthEast-List Digest List Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 4:27 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 11/15/06 Ya'll fly safe! I'll join you next year in my bird! Randy Utsey RV-7 canopy work N55CU reserved Charlotte ----- Original Message ----- From: "RVSouthEast-List Digest Server" To: "RVSouthEast-List Digest List" Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 2:57 AM Subject: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 11/15/06 > * > > > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > > > Today's complete RVSouthEast-List Digest can also be found in either of > the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the RVSouthEast-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text > editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/rvsoutheast-list/Digest.RVSouthEast-List. 2006-11-15.html > > Text Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/rvsoutheast-list/Digest.RVSouthEast-List. 2006-11-15.txt > > > ====================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > ====================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > RVSouthEast-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Wed 11/15/06: 2 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 04:35 AM - Little River Fly-in (Ron Schreck) > 2. 05:19 AM - Re: Little River Fly-in (Steve Glasgow) > > > > ________________________________ Message 1 > _____________________________________ > > > From: "Ron Schreck" <ronschreck(at)alltel.net> > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Little River Fly-in > > Looks like the weather is going to be great for the fly-in at Little > River Airpark, FL on Saturday. I plan on leaving Gold Hill about 9:00 > AM and will have an empty back seat if anyone is interested in coming > along. I can stop somewhere along the route to pick up a gib if that > works. Will plan on being back at Gold Hill by 5 PM. > > Mike Munn, if you want to formate let me know. > > Ron Schreck > RV-8 "Miss Izzy" > Gold Hill Airpark, NC > > ________________________________ Message 2 > _____________________________________ > > > From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com> > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Little River Fly-in > > MessageI will fly back with you. Lynnie and I are planning on going to > LAL on Friday to see the Cougar airplane my uncle designed and built in > 1953. > > We hope to be at Little River when you arrive. Glad you can make it. > > To the rest of SERV. This is one great event only 2 hours from CLT and > I know you will enjoy it. > > Cappy > > LITTLE RIVER AIRPARK FLY-IN NOVEMBER 18, 2006 > > November 18, 2006 (Rain Date Nov. 19th) > Little River Airpark (McAlpin, FL) > Identifier: FL10 > Coordinates: N30*07.30 W082*53.91 > Frequency: 122.9 (JAX sectional) > Runways: RIGHT HAND TRAFFIC FOR RUNWAY 36 > LEFT HAND TRAFFIC FOR RUNWAY 18 > Use taxiway located on west side of runway 18/36. DO NOT TAXI on > runway. > Park where directed by ground personnel. > > Burgers and hot dogs with all the fixings will be served. $5.00 > donation > please. Lunch at 12:00 (noon). Coffee and donuts for early birds. > > ALL ACTIVITIES WILL BE HELD AT NORTH END OF RUNWAY 36. > > NOTE: THIS IS A PRIVATE AIRPARK. LAND AT YOUR OWN RISK! > CAUTION: TOWER N.E. OF AIRPORT. > NO FUEL AVAILABLE. > > For further information contact Jim Driscoll: 386-963-3539 > David Sims: 386-963-4570 > Jerry Cornwell: 386-963-4954 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ron Schreck > To: 'RV Southeast List' > Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 7:34 AM > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Little River Fly-in > > > Looks like the weather is going to be great for the fly-in at Little > River Airpark, FL on Saturday. I plan on leaving Gold Hill about 9:00 > AM and will have an empty back seat if anyone is interested in coming > along. I can stop somewhere along the route to pick up a gib if that > works. Will plan on being back at Gold Hill by 5 PM. > > Mike Munn, if you want to formate let me know. > > Ron Schreck > RV-8 "Miss Izzy" > Gold Hill Airpark, NC > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: N8391Mike(at)aol.com
Date: Nov 16, 2006
Subject: RV7 or 7A cowling fitting
does any one flying an RV7 around greensboro that I could come and look at ? I am working on an rv7 at shiloh airport and the top cowling is NOT aligned in a straight line with the forward fuselage skin like the two RV6 i previously built, if you hold a straight edge on the top of the forward fuselage skin the cowling tips down about an inch at the front of the cowling. it does not look good. Andre M Robert. RV6 N718AM ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 17, 2006
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: List Value...
If you look forward to checking your List email everyday (and a lot of you have written to say that you do!), then you're probably getting at least 0 or 0 worth of Entertainment from the Lists each year. You'd pay twice that for a subscription to some lame magazine or even a dinner out. Isn't the List worth at least that much to you? Wouldn't it be great if you could pay that same amount and get a well-managed media source free of advertising, SPAM, and viruses? Come to think of it, you do... Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support YOUR Lists? Contribution Page: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Again, I want to say THANK YOU to everyone that has made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser!! These Lists are made possible exclusively through YOUR generosity!! Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Admin. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Lenleg(at)aol.com
Date: Nov 17, 2006
Subject: Fwd: RV WEEKEND AT SUN-N-FUN - LAKELAND, FL
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Date: Nov 17, 2006
From: "James Clark" <jclarkmail(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Fwd: RV WEEKEND AT SUN-N-FUN - LAKELAND, FL
I think you meant to include this ... James =============================== RV WEEKEND AT SUN-N-FUN, LAKELAND, FLORIDA JANUARY 19-20-21, 2007 RAIN OR SHINE. If you can't fly in - Drive in! CAMPING FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHT. DINNER FRIDAY; 3 MEALS SATURDAY AND BREAKFAST SUNDAY AVAILABLE. FORUMS SATURDAY AFTERNOON AT 12:30, 1:30, AND 2:30. I AM DILIGENTLY WORKING WITH SUN-N-FUN TO IMPROVE THE FOOD SITUATION AND MAKE THIS A BETTER EVENT FOR ALL. LAURA CROOK by Lorene Washburn =================================================== On 11/17/06, Lenleg(at)aol.com wrote: > > -- This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at james(at)nextupventures.com . ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Lenleg(at)aol.com
Date: Nov 18, 2006
Subject: Fl Trip?
Who all made the trip to Florida today and how was it ??? Len ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 18, 2006
From: bill crothers <bill28104(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Fl Trip?
Mike Munn And Smokey went and reported 70 RVs. J, K, Tad And Reno talked to them as we left Doolittle after routine... --- Lenleg(at)aol.com wrote: > Who all made the trip to Florida today and how was > it ??? > > Len > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 20, 2006
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Why? [Please Read]
Dear Listers, Each year I like to explain why I have a Fund Raiser and also take the opportunity to express why I think the List Services here provide a superior experience over the commercial equivalents. I use the List Fund Raiser each year to offset the costs involved with running a high performance email list site such as this one. With the annual support from the List members through the PBS-like Fund Raiser, I have found I can run the entire site without having to inflect any of the members with those annoying banner ads flashing up all the time trying to sell little-blue-pills or other garbage nobody wants or needs. From the comments I've received over the years regarding the Lists, the great majority of the members really appreciate the non-commercialism of my List systems and don't mind my 'go-team-go' banter once a year during November to encourage members to support the Lists. I believe that the Lists services that I provide here offer many benefits over the commercial equivalents in a number of ways. The first feature I believe to be significant is that you cannot receive a computer v*rus from any of these Lists directly. Each incoming message is filtered and dangerous attachments stripped off prior to posting. I also provide a Photo and File Share feature that allows members to share files and bitmaps with other members and everyone can be assured that these files will be prescanned for any sort of v*rus before they are posted. Safe and simple. Another very important feature of this system in my opinion is the extensive List Archives that are available for download, browsing, and searching. The Archives go all the way back to the very beginning of each List and with the very fast Search Engine, the huge size of some of the Archives is a non-issue in quickly finding the data you're looking for. And added just this year is the new Email List Forum that allows members who prefer the Web BBS-style of List interaction. The beauty of the new List Forums is that they contain the exact same content that is distributed via email. Messages posted via email are cross-posted to the respective Forum and vice versa. The Forums also allow for another convenient method of sharing pictures and other files. Additionally added this year is the new List Wiki that allows members to build their own "Online List Encyclopedia" of sorts, documenting various aspects of their project for all to share. I've been running email Lists and services under the matronics.com domain since about 1989 starting with RV-List and 30 guys I knew and who where also building RVs. It has grown into nearly 70 different aviation-related Email Lists and an associated web site that receives over 23,000,000 hits each year!! Additionally, the List Email system forwarded well over 87,000 postings last year, accounting for an unbelievable 39,000,000 (yes, that's 39 MILLION) email messages delivered to Matronics List subscribers! I think there's a lot of value in supporting a service that has gone the long haul and is still providing and improving a high quality service all _without any advertising budget_! I have to admit running these Lists is a labor of love and I hope it shows in the quality of the experience that you receive when you get a List Email Message, Search the Archives, use the List Browser, or surf the Forums and Wiki sites. The Lists will be here for a long time to come. If you just want to lurk a while for free, that's great and I encourage you to do so. If you use, appreciate, and receive value from these Lists, then please support them during the Annual List Fund Raiser! List Contribution Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Radomir Zaric" <vitez(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Van's calendar
Date: Nov 20, 2006
Van's calendar is now available for ordering: http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi? <http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?&browse=new&product 07-ca lendar> &browse=new&product 07-calendar Hmm.. who's that on the cover?? ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 20, 2006
From: "James Clark" <jclarkmail(at)gmail.com>
Subject: May I have your autograph, Mr. Leggette????
See ... http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?&browse=new&product 07-calendar Wow!! James -- This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at james(at)nextupventures.com . ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 20, 2006
From: "James Clark" <jclarkmail(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Van's calendar
I just saw it!! (And sent out a tongue in cheek email). Seriously, CONGRATS to the "owner"!!!!!! :-) On 11/20/06, Radomir Zaric wrote: > > Van's calendar is now available for ordering: > > > http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?&browse=new&product 07-calendar > > > Hmm.. who's that on the cover?? > > > * > > > * > > -- This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at james(at)nextupventures.com . ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 20, 2006
From: bill crothers <bill28104(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Van's calendar
sounds like a group buy...someone get 8 and we all get ours- I'm in...Reno. --- Radomir Zaric wrote: > Van's calendar is now available for ordering: > > > > http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi? > <http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?&browse=new&product 07-ca > lendar> &browse=new&product 07-calendar > > > > > > Hmm.. who's that on the cover?? > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Wayne Williams" <rwayne(at)gamewood.net>
Subject: May I have your autograph, Mr. Leggette????
Date: Nov 20, 2006
That looks great!!! --Len, you must feel like a proud dad! Wayne _____ From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of James Clark Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 10:27 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: May I have your autograph, Mr. Leggette???? See ... http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi? <http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?&browse=new&product 07-ca lendar> &browse=new&product 07-calendar Wow!! James -- This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at james(at)nextupventures.com . ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
Subject: Van's calendar
Date: Nov 20, 2006
Yee-ha! That's awesome. I think I know someone who will ordering a pallet of them........ - Larry Bowen Larry(at)BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com _____ From: Radomir Zaric [mailto:vitez(at)carolina.rr.com] Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 8:44 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Van's calendar Van's calendar is now available for ordering: http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi? <http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?&browse=new&product 07-ca lendar> &browse=new&product 07-calendar Hmm.. who's that on the cover?? ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: May I have your autograph, Mr. Leggette????
Date: Nov 21, 2006
Awesome Len!!!!!!!!!!! Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: James Clark To: SERV Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 10:27 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: May I have your autograph, Mr. Leggette???? See ... http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?&browse=new&product=2 007-calendar Wow!! James -- This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at james(at)nextupventures.com . ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Ron Schreck" <ronschreck(at)alltel.net>
Subject: May I have your autograph, Mr. Leggette????
Date: Nov 21, 2006
Looks great! Who took the picture? Smokey -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve Glasgow Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 3:06 AM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: May I have your autograph, Mr. Leggette???? Awesome Len!!!!!!!!!!! Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: James <mailto:jclarkmail(at)gmail.com> Clark Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 10:27 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: May I have your autograph, Mr. Leggette???? See ... http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi? <http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?&browse=new&product 0 7-calendar> &browse=new&product 07-calendar Wow!! James -- This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at james(at)nextupventures.com . href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com href="http://www.kitlog.com">www.kitlog.com href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/ch ref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.mat ronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Lenleg(at)aol.com
Date: Nov 21, 2006
Subject: Re: May I have your autograph, Mr. Leggette????
And that is the part we need to get out .... I did not send the pic ... our resident professional photographer ... Mr. Radomir sent it in and was selected ... the congrats should go to Rad !!! Len In a message dated 11/21/2006 5:25:00 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, ronschreck(at)alltel.net writes: Looks great! Who took the picture? Smokey -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve Glasgow Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 3:06 AM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: May I have your autograph, Mr. Leggette???? Awesome Len!!!!!!!!!!! Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: _James Clark_ (mailto:jclarkmail(at)gmail.com) Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 10:27 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: May I have your autograph, Mr. Leggette???? See ... _http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?&browse=new&product 07-cale ndar_ (http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?&browse=new&product 07-calendar) Wow!! James -- This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at _james(at)nextupventures.com_ (mailto:james(at)nextupventures.com) . href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com href="http://www.kitlog.com">www.kitlog.com href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/chref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.matronics.c om/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com href="http://www.kitlog.com">www.kitlog.com href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/chref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.matronics.c om/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List (http://www.buildersbooks.com/) (http://www.homebuilthelp.com/) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List) ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Dale Ensing" <densing(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: May I have your autograph, Mr. Leggette????
Date: Nov 21, 2006
MessageI'll buy the '07 calendar just for the cover. Great picture of a beautiful airplane. Dale ----- Original Message ----- From: Ron Schreck To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 5:22 AM Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: May I have your autograph, Mr. Leggette???? Looks great! Who took the picture? Smokey ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 21, 2006
From: "Ken Harrill" <rkharr(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Van's calendar
Congratulations on the picture. Great job!!! Ken Harrill On 11/20/06, Radomir Zaric wrote: > > Van's calendar is now available for ordering: > > > http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?&browse=new&product 07-calendar > > > Hmm.. who's that on the cover?? > > > * > > * > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 21, 2006
From: bill crothers <bill28104(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: May I have your autograph, Mr. Leggette????
congrats to both talented dudes! one Biult the beautiful bird and the other is a photogenius... --- Lenleg(at)aol.com wrote: > > And that is the part we need to get out .... I did > not send the pic ... our > resident professional photographer ... Mr. Radomir > sent it in and was selected > ... the congrats should go to Rad !!! > > Len > > > In a message dated 11/21/2006 5:25:00 A.M. Eastern > Standard Time, > ronschreck(at)alltel.net writes: > > Looks great! Who took the picture? > > Smokey > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] > On Behalf Of Steve Glasgow > Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 3:06 AM > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: May I have your > autograph, Mr. Leggette???? > > > Awesome Len!!!!!!!!!!! > > Cappy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: _James Clark_ (mailto:jclarkmail(at)gmail.com) > To: _SERV_ (mailto:rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com) > Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 10:27 PM > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: May I have your > autograph, Mr. Leggette???? > > > See ... > > _http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?&browse=new&product 07-cale > ndar_ > (http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?&browse=new&product 07-calendar) > > > Wow!! > > James > > > -- > This is an alternate email. Please continue to email > me at > _james(at)nextupventures.com_ > (mailto:james(at)nextupventures.com) . > > > href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com > > > > > href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com > > href="http://www.kitlog.com">www.kitlog.com > href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com > > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/chref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.matronics.c > om/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List > > > > href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com > href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com > > href="http://www.kitlog.com">www.kitlog.com > href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com > > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/chref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.matronics.c > om/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List > > > (http://www.buildersbooks.com/) > (http://www.homebuilthelp.com/) > (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) > (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List) > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 21, 2006
From: bill crothers <bill28104(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Van's calendar
As mentioned last nite, I'll order at least 8 to get discount...who wants them at $7 @? Reno. --- Ken Harrill wrote: > Congratulations on the picture. Great job!!! > > > Ken Harrill > > > On 11/20/06, Radomir Zaric > wrote: > > > > Van's calendar is now available for ordering: > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?&browse=new&product 07-calendar > > > > > > > > > > > > Hmm.. who's that on the cover?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * > > > > * > > > > > $420k for $1,399/mo. Think You Pay Too Much For Your Mortgage? ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 11/20/06
From: lee.logan(at)gulfstream.com
Date: Nov 21, 2006
Awesome! We're famous! Eeeeerrrrrrr, well Len is, anyway!!! Lee... Lee Logan Government Programs and Sales Support Gulfstream Aerospace Corporation Savannah, Georgia This e-mail message, including all attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain legally privileged and confidential information. If you are not an intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have either received this message in error or through interception, and that any review, use, distribution, copying or disclosure of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited and is subject to criminal and civil penalties. All personal messages express solely the sender's views and not those of Gulfstream Aerospace Corporation. If you received this message in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Dale Ensing" <densing(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Van's calendar
Date: Nov 21, 2006
I'll take one Bill. Dale ----- Original Message ----- From: "bill crothers" <bill28104(at)yahoo.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 9:19 AM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Van's calendar > > > As mentioned last nite, I'll order at least 8 to get > discount...who wants them at $7 @? Reno. > > --- Ken Harrill wrote: > >> Congratulations on the picture. Great job!!! >> >> >> Ken Harrill >> >> >> On 11/20/06, Radomir Zaric >> wrote: >> > >> > Van's calendar is now available for ordering: >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?&browse=new&product 07-calendar >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Hmm.. who's that on the cover?? >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > * >> > >> > * >> > >> > >> > > > $420k for $1,399/mo. > Think You Pay Too Much For Your Mortgage? > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 21, 2006
From: "Ken Harrill" <rkharr(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Van's calendar
I'll take one. Ken On 11/21/06, bill crothers wrote: > > > > > As mentioned last nite, I'll order at least 8 to get > discount...who wants them at $7 @? Reno. > > --- Ken Harrill wrote: > > > Congratulations on the picture. Great job!!! > > > > > > Ken Harrill > > > > > > On 11/20/06, Radomir Zaric > > wrote: > > > > > > Van's calendar is now available for ordering: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?&browse=new&product 07-calendar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hmm.. who's that on the cover?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > $420k for $1,399/mo. > Think You Pay Too Much For Your Mortgage? > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 21, 2006
From: bill crothers <bill28104(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Van's calendar
done --- Dale Ensing wrote: > Ensing" > > I'll take one Bill. > Dale > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "bill crothers" <bill28104(at)yahoo.com> > To: > Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 9:19 AM > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Van's calendar > > > crothers > > > > > > As mentioned last nite, I'll order at least 8 to > get > > discount...who wants them at $7 @? Reno. > > > > --- Ken Harrill wrote: > > > >> Congratulations on the picture. Great job!!! > >> > >> > >> Ken Harrill > >> > >> > >> On 11/20/06, Radomir Zaric > > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > Van's calendar is now available for ordering: > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?&browse=new&product 07-calendar > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Hmm.. who's that on the cover?? > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > * > >> > > >> > * > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > $420k for $1,399/mo. > > Think You Pay Too Much For Your Mortgage? > > > > > > > > > > Click on > about > provided > www.buildersbooks.com > Admin. > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List > > > > > $200,000 mortgage for $660/ mo 30/15 yr fixed, reduce debt http://yahoo.ratemarketplace.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Robbie Walker <robbie(at)atlanticpkg.com>
Subject: Re: Van's calendar
Date: Nov 21, 2006
I'd like one. On Nov 21, 2006, at 9:19 AM, bill crothers wrote: > > > As mentioned last nite, I'll order at least 8 to get > discount...who wants them at $7 @? Reno. > > --- Ken Harrill wrote: > >> Congratulations on the picture. Great job!!! >> >> >> Ken Harrill >> >> >> On 11/20/06, Radomir Zaric >> wrote: >>> >>> Van's calendar is now available for ordering: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi? > &browse=new&product 07-calendar >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Hmm.. who's that on the cover?? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> * >>> >>> * >>> >>> >> > > > $420k for $1,399/mo. > Think You Pay Too Much For Your Mortgage? > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 21, 2006
From: "Bill Boyd" <sportav8r(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: May I have your autograph, Mr. Leggette????
And that, friends, is why it pays to keep the belly clean. You never know who is going to snap your picture from underneath and send it in. Len, email me privately and tell me how you get your plane to climb straight up like that, ... and with a Barrows engine. I have to know your secret! -Stormy On 11/20/06, James Clark wrote: > See ... > > http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?&browse=new&product 07-calendar > > Wow!! > > James > > > -- > This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at > james(at)nextupventures.com . > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 21, 2006
From: bill crothers <bill28104(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Van's calendar
done --- Ken Harrill wrote: > I'll take one. > > Ken > > > On 11/21/06, bill crothers > wrote: > > > crothers > > > > > > As mentioned last nite, I'll order at least 8 to > get > > discount...who wants them at $7 @? Reno. > > > > --- Ken Harrill wrote: > > > > > Congratulations on the picture. Great job!!! > > > > > > > > > Ken Harrill > > > > > > > > > On 11/20/06, Radomir Zaric > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Van's calendar is now available for ordering: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?&browse=new&product 07-calendar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hmm.. who's that on the cover?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > $420k for $1,399/mo. > > Think You Pay Too Much For Your Mortgage? > > > > > > > > > > > $200,000 mortgage for $660/ mo 30/15 yr fixed, reduce debt http://yahoo.ratemarketplace.com ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 21, 2006
From: bill crothers <bill28104(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Van's calendar
done --- Robbie Walker wrote: > Walker > > I'd like one. > > On Nov 21, 2006, at 9:19 AM, bill crothers wrote: > > crothers > > > > > > As mentioned last nite, I'll order at least 8 to > get > > discount...who wants them at $7 @? Reno. > > > > --- Ken Harrill wrote: > > > >> Congratulations on the picture. Great job!!! > >> > >> > >> Ken Harrill > >> > >> > >> On 11/20/06, Radomir Zaric > > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> Van's calendar is now available for ordering: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > > http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi? > > &browse=new&product 07-calendar > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Hmm.. who's that on the cover?? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> * > >>> > >>> * > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > $420k for $1,399/mo. > > Think You Pay Too Much For Your Mortgage? > > > > > > > > > > > > Click on > about > provided > www.buildersbooks.com > Admin. > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List > > > > > Rates near 39yr lows. $420,000 Loan for $1399/mo. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 21, 2006
From: "Bill Boyd" <sportav8r(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Van's calendar
You guys will go to a lot of trouble to save yourselves one buck each ;-) There's not even a shipping charge on calendars. That said, I guess I'm in. But I want mine autographed, okay? Alrighty, then. Glad we settled that. Stormy On 11/21/06, bill crothers wrote: > > done > > --- Robbie Walker wrote: > > > Walker > > > > I'd like one. > > > > On Nov 21, 2006, at 9:19 AM, bill crothers wrote: > > > > crothers > > > > > > > > > As mentioned last nite, I'll order at least 8 to > > get > > > discount...who wants them at $7 @? Reno. > > > > > > --- Ken Harrill wrote: > > > > > >> Congratulations on the picture. Great job!!! > > >> > > >> > > >> Ken Harrill > > >> > > >> > > >> On 11/20/06, Radomir Zaric > > > > >> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> Van's calendar is now available for ordering: > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > > http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi? > > > &browse=new&product 07-calendar > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Hmm.. who's that on the cover?? > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> * > > >>> > > >>> * > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > $420k for $1,399/mo. > > > Think You Pay Too Much For Your Mortgage? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Click on > > about > > provided > > www.buildersbooks.com > > Admin. > > > > browse > > Subscriptions page, > > FAQ, > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rates near 39yr lows. $420,000 Loan for $1399/mo. > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 21, 2006
From: bill crothers <bill28104(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Van's calendar
you are in Stormer...only 2 left in my order...LL promises to autograph all.. --- Bill Boyd wrote: > > > You guys will go to a lot of trouble to save > yourselves one buck each > ;-) There's not even a shipping charge on > calendars. That said, I > guess I'm in. > > But I want mine autographed, okay? Alrighty, then. > Glad we settled that. > > Stormy > > On 11/21/06, bill crothers > wrote: > crothers > > > > done > > > > --- Robbie Walker wrote: > > > > > Walker > > > > > > I'd like one. > > > > > > On Nov 21, 2006, at 9:19 AM, bill crothers > wrote: > > > > > > crothers > > > > > > > > > > > > As mentioned last nite, I'll order at least 8 > to > > > get > > > > discount...who wants them at $7 @? Reno. > > > > > > > > --- Ken Harrill wrote: > > > > > > > >> Congratulations on the picture. Great job!!! > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Ken Harrill > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> On 11/20/06, Radomir Zaric > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> Van's calendar is now available for > ordering: > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > > > http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi? > > > > &browse=new&product 07-calendar > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> Hmm.. who's that on the cover?? > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> * > > > >>> > > > >>> * > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > $420k for $1,399/mo. > > > > Think You Pay Too Much For Your Mortgage? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Click on > > > about > > > provided > > > www.buildersbooks.com > > > Admin. > > > > > > browse > > > Subscriptions page, > > > FAQ, > > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rates near 39yr lows. $420,000 Loan for $1399/mo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Click on > about > provided > www.buildersbooks.com > Admin. > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 22, 2006
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists...
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From: Lenleg(at)aol.com
Date: Nov 22, 2006
Subject: Fwd: [Team RV] P 47
Iw3uhbQ6hrXMe9dnUOmHlKTKhQAtQtypHOkhdYW-- ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 22, 2006
From: "James Clark" <jclarkmail(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Fwd: [Team RV] P 47
Something did not work here. James On 11/22/06, Lenleg(at)aol.com wrote: > > Iw3uhbQ6hrXMe9dnUOmHlKTKhQAtQtypHOkhdYW-- > > -- This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at james(at)nextupventures.com . ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 22, 2006
From: "James Clark" <jclarkmail(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Fwd: [Team RV] P 47
Maybe this is what you meant ... (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4368250464023128830&) James On 11/22/06, James Clark wrote: > > Something did not work here. > > James > > > On 11/22/06, Lenleg(at)aol.com wrote: > > > > Iw3uhbQ6hrXMe9dnUOmHlKTKhQAtQtypHOkhdYW-- > > > > > > > > > > > -- > This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at > james(at)nextupventures.com . > -- This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at james(at)nextupventures.com . ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Lenleg(at)aol.com
Date: Nov 22, 2006
Subject: Re: Fwd: [Team RV] P 47
It is ... thanks !! Hate AOL ... Len In a message dated 11/22/2006 11:53:46 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, jclarkmail(at)gmail.com writes: Maybe this is what you meant ... (_http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4368250464023128830&_ (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4368250464023128830&) ) James On 11/22/06, James Clark <_jclarkmail(at)gmail.com_ (mailto:jclarkmail(at)gmail.com) > wrote: Something did not work here. James On 11/22/06, _Lenleg(at)aol.com_ (mailto:Lenleg(at)aol.com) <_Lenleg(at)aol.com _ (mailto:Lenleg(at)aol.com) > wrote: Iw3uhbQ6hrXMe9dnUOmHlKTKhQAtQtypHOkhdYW-- -- This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at _james(at)nextupventures.com _ (mailto:james(at)nextupventures.com) . -- This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at _james(at)nextupventures.com_ (mailto:james(at)nextupventures.com) . (http://www.buildersbooks.com/) (http://www.homebuilthelp.com/) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List) ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 23, 2006
From: "James Clark" <jclarkmail(at)gmail.com>
Subject: TeamRV Request posted to TeamRV mailing list ...
SERV Formation members ("Palmetto Flight" etc), I posted this to the TeamRV list a day or so ago. In case some of you who are formation participants are NOT subscribed to that list, I figured I would post it here. There has been quite a bit of (positive) response so far and if I include the "Carolina Crew", we might be able to have somewhere between 8-12 ships (if not more!). I am SURE the RVs will represent the largest group of flyers we have at the show. And there is a chance they could be the BEST! (There **might** be some stiff military "competition") So far, we have participants checking in from GA, TX, SC and OH. I suspect NC will be represented as well. :-) Kahuna has been traveling but I am sure he will sort things out over time. As mentioned in the note, more details later as they unfold. Just a heads up. Finally, a certain well executed "air race" here in SC was previously (tentatively) scheduled on that date but that is being "adjusted" so that we (Palmetto Flight) along with as many of our other formation buddies as possible, will get the chance to "participate" in that as well. This time I am *hoping* to race! James ======================================================================== Having now run this by Kahuna, I would like to "officially" request the participation of the "TeamRV Formation Demonstration Team" (and its affiliates/friends/buddies) at "Thunder at Fort Jackson", May 19th of 2007. The typical accommodations would apply. The traditional November Celebrate Freedom effort where TeamRV has been a hit in the past was rescheduled to later due to the desire to have it at the large military training base (Fort Jackson) here in Columbia. We anticipate the participation by several military demo teams along with a lot of other air action and a massive ground show. All staging will be done from GA airports for GA and military airports for military participants. There is no airfield at the "Fort" but it is only 2 **minutes** from Columbia-Owens Downtown (KCUB) by RV. Actually there *used* to be a strip there and there will be some clearing to "define" an area for flight but it is probably going to be too tight to try even if we could get permission. The airspace will **probably** be waivered airspace. I will provide more info as things evolve. Thanks, James Board Member, Celebrate Freedom Foundation Board -- This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at james(at)nextupventures.com . ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 24, 2006
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: More Great List Comments - Please Make A Contribution!
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From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Saturday
Date: Nov 24, 2006
Saturday looks like a day to behold. Who has a plan? Cappy ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 24, 2006
Subject: Re: Saturday
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
I'm ready for where-ever. -- Larry Bowen Larry(at)BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com Steve Glasgow wrote: > > > Saturday looks like a day to behold. Who has a plan? > > Cappy > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Lenleg(at)aol.com
Date: Nov 24, 2006
Subject: Fuel Prices
What is going on .. Monroe has SS for $3.25 ... they are less than LKR ???? RUQ is at $3.20 Len ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 11/23/06
From: lee.logan(at)gulfstream.com
Date: Nov 24, 2006
Guys! Don't forget the Race to Ridgeland now scheduled for 12 May, 2006. Ch eck out our in-progress website at. www.racetoridgeland.com. Palmetto Fligh t was a huge hit last year--we are hoping Kahuna and his crowd we be there th is year too. Would be a great warm-up for the Ft. Jackson event AND you migh t just take a trophy home if you participate in the race and/or the spot land ing contest!! Really hope to see as many of you there as possible!! Regards, Lee... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ This e-mail message, including all attachments, is for the sole use of the in tended recipient(s) and may contain legally privileged and confidential infor mation. 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HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html& Chapter 06-11-23&Archive=RVSouthEast Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&C hapter 06-11-23&Archive=RVSouthEast ========================= ====================== EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive ========================= ====================== ---------------------------------------------------------- RVSouthEast-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 11/23/06: 1 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:29 AM - TeamRV Request posted to TeamRV mailing list ... (James C lark) ________________________________ Message 1 ________________________________ _____ From: "James Clark" <jclarkmail(at)gmail.com> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: TeamRV Request posted to TeamRV mailing list ... SERV Formation members ("Palmetto Flight" etc), I posted this to the TeamRV list a day or so ago. In case some of you who are formation participants are NOT subscribed to that list, I figured I would post it here. There has been quite a bit of (positive) response so far and if I include the "Carolina Crew", we might be able to have somewhere between 8-12 ships (if not more!). I am SURE the RVs will represent the largest group of flyers we have at the show. And there is a chance they could be the BEST! (There **might** be some stiff military "competition") So far, we have participants checking in from GA, TX, SC and OH. I suspect NC will be represented as well. :-) Kahuna has been traveling but I am sure he will sort things out over time. As mentioned in the note, more details later as they unfold. Just a heads up. Finally, a certain well executed "air race" here in SC was previously (tentatively) scheduled on that date but that is being "adjusted" so that we (Palmetto Flight) along with as many of our other formation buddies as possible, will get the chance to "participate" in that as well. This time I am *hoping* to race! James ===================== Having now run this by Kahuna, I would like to "officially" request the participation of the "TeamRV Formation Demonstration Team" (and its affiliates/friends/buddies) at "Thunder at Fort Jackson", May 19th of 2007. The typical accommodations would apply. The traditional November Celebrate Freedom effort where TeamRV has been a hit in the past was rescheduled to later due to the desire to have it at the large military training base (Fort Jackson) here in Columbia. We anticipate the participation by several military demo teams along with a lot of other air action and a massive ground show. All staging will be done from GA airports for GA and military airports for military participants. There is no airfield at the "Fort" but it is only 2 **minutes** from Columbia-Owens Downtown (KCUB) by RV. Actually there *used* to be a strip there and there will be some clearing to "define" an area for flight but it is probably going to be too tight to try even if we could get permission. The airspace will **probably** be waivered airspace. I will provide more info as things evolve. Thanks, James Board Member, Celebrate Freedom Foundation Board -- This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at james(at)nextupventures.com . ========= ========= ========= ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
Subject: Saturday
Date: Nov 24, 2006
Stanton's? Or N. Myrtle? - Larry Bowen Larry(at)BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly(at)carolina.rr.com] > Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 7:45 AM > To: SERV > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Saturday > > --> > > Saturday looks like a day to behold. Who has a plan? > > Cappy > > Photoshare, and much much more: > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 24, 2006
From: bill crothers <bill28104(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Fuel Prices
suggest you guys practice 1 pm at EQY. they now have self-serv gas and less traffic. LKR still working on ramp paving. RR --- Lenleg(at)aol.com wrote: > What is going on .. Monroe has SS for $3.25 ... they > are less than LKR ???? > > RUQ is at $3.20 > > Len > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Saturday
Date: Nov 24, 2006
How about Stanton's at 11:00 AM? Cappy ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Saturday
Date: Nov 24, 2006
Is anyone in on anything! Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Glasgow To: SERV Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 12:50 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Saturday How about Stanton's at 11:00 AM? Cappy ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Ron Schreck" <ronschreck(at)alltel.net>
Subject: Saturday
Date: Nov 24, 2006
Sorry Cappy. Gotta go to WA to ferry a Skymaster back to Siler City. Smokey do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve Glasgow Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 5:20 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Saturday Is anyone in on anything! Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve <mailto:willfly(at)carolina.rr.com> Glasgow Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 12:50 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Saturday How about Stanton's at 11:00 -- Please Support Your Lists This Month (And Get the Annual link Free * AeroElectric <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> http://www.matronics.com/c Thank you for your generous bsp; -Matt Dralle, List nbsp; Features Subscriptions href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.m ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
Subject: Saturday
Date: Nov 24, 2006
I'm in! - Larry Bowen Larry(at)BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com _____ From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly(at)carolina.rr.com] Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 5:20 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Saturday Is anyone in on anything! Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve <mailto:willfly(at)carolina.rr.com> Glasgow Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 12:50 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Saturday How about Stanton's at 11:00 -- Please Support Your Lists This Month (And Get the Annual link Free * AeroElectric <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> http://www.matronics.com/c Thank you for your generous bsp; -Matt Dralle, List nbsp; Features Subscriptions href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.m= ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Saturday
Date: Nov 24, 2006
I'll be there at 11 AM. Anybody want to GIB? Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Bowen To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 7:28 PM Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Saturday I'm in! - Larry Bowen Larry(at)BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly(at)carolina.rr.com] Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 5:20 PM To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Saturday Is anyone in on anything! Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Glasgow To: SERV Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 12:50 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Saturday How about Stanton's at 11:00 -- Please Support Your Lists This Month (And Get the Annual link Free * AeroElectric http://www.matronics.com/c Thank you for your generous bsp; -Matt Dralle, List nbsp; Features Subscriptions href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.m = href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com href="http://www.kitlog.com">www.kitlog.com href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.m atronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Lenleg(at)aol.com
Date: Nov 24, 2006
Subject: Re: Saturday
In a message dated 11/24/2006 5:21:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, willfly(at)carolina.rr.com writes: Is anyone in on anything! Cappy I am going up early for a flight ... maybe to Danville for breakfast ... then going to the NCSU vs ECU football game in Raleigh. Len ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Scott Miller" <scott65(at)quikenet.com>
Subject: Re: Saturday
Date: Nov 25, 2006
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From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Saturday
Date: Nov 25, 2006
Due to the possibility of wet field conditions at Stanton's, Cappy and Larry are now going to Montgomery Co (43A). We plan to arrive between 11 and 11:15. Cappy ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 27, 2006
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: List of Contributors Coming Soon - Make Sure You're
Listed! Dear Listers, The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! On December 1st I post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. As a number of people have pointed out in their Contribution comments, the List seems at least as valuable of a building/flying/recreating tool as a typical your magazine subscription! And how interactive is a magazine, after all? :-) Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by droping a personal check in the mail to: Matronics / Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore CA 94551-0347 USA (Please include your email address on the check!) I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 27, 2006
From: bill crothers <bill28104(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Vans calenders
Final notice for calenders at $7.00 @. sold out 1st batch, will re-order more if at least 6 people e-mail me. Reno. All to be autographed by Ace Leggette at no addl. cost! ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Carter Wright" <cartaire(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: Vans calenders
Date: Nov 27, 2006
Autographed? how cool! I'd like one, too. Carter _________________________________________________________________ All-in-one security and maintenance for your PC. Get a free 90-day trial! ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 27, 2006
From: bill crothers <bill28104(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Vans calenders
Bowen/Wright/Repucci in...3 more to go. --- Carter Wright wrote: > Wright" > > Autographed? how cool! I'd like one, too. > > Carter > > _________________________________________________________________ > All-in-one security and maintenance for your PC. > Get a free 90-day trial! > > > > Click on > about > provided > www.buildersbooks.com > Admin. > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List > > > > > Want to start your own business? http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Lenleg(at)aol.com
Date: Nov 27, 2006
Subject: Re: Vans calenders
Bill: I will take the other three !! Len In a message dated 11/27/2006 9:07:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, bill28104(at)yahoo.com writes: --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: bill crothers Bowen/Wright/Repucci in...3 more to go. --- Carter Wright wrote: > Wright" > > Autographed? how cool! I'd like one, too. > > Carter > > _________________________________________________________________ > All-in-one security and maintenance for your PC. > Get a free 90-day trial! > > > > Click on > about > provided > www.buildersbooks.com > Admin. > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List > > > > > Want to start your own business? http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 27, 2006
From: bill crothers <bill28104(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Vans calenders
done, all 8 sold, will continue to take orders all day, then will order however many we total by end of day. 1st batch on there way already. RR --- Lenleg(at)aol.com wrote: > > Bill: > > I will take the other three !! > > Len > > > In a message dated 11/27/2006 9:07:46 AM Eastern > Standard Time, > bill28104(at)yahoo.com writes: > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: bill > crothers > > Bowen/Wright/Repucci in...3 more to go. > > --- Carter Wright wrote: > > > Wright" > > > > Autographed? how cool! I'd like one, too. > > > > Carter > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > All-in-one security and maintenance for your PC. > > Get a free 90-day trial! > > > > > > > > Click on > > about > > provided > > www.buildersbooks.com > > Admin. > > > > browse > > Subscriptions page, > > FAQ, > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Want to start your own business? > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index > > > > > > > > > Cheap talk? ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Vans calenders
Date: Nov 27, 2006
Hey, Bill. Put me down for one of the next set Ed Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "bill crothers" <bill28104(at)yahoo.com> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 9:48 AM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Vans calenders > > > done, all 8 sold, will continue to take orders all > day, then will order however many we total by end of > day. 1st batch on there way already. RR > > --- Lenleg(at)aol.com wrote: > >> >> Bill: >> >> I will take the other three !! >> >> Len >> >> >> In a message dated 11/27/2006 9:07:46 AM Eastern >> Standard Time, >> bill28104(at)yahoo.com writes: >> >> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: bill >> crothers >> >> Bowen/Wright/Repucci in...3 more to go. >> >> --- Carter Wright wrote: >> >> > Wright" >> > >> > Autographed? how cool! I'd like one, too. >> > >> > Carter >> > >> > >> > _________________________________________________________________ >> > All-in-one security and maintenance for your PC. >> > Get a free 90-day trial! >> > >> > >> > >> > Click on >> > about >> > provided >> > www.buildersbooks.com >> > Admin. >> > >> > browse >> > Subscriptions page, >> > FAQ, >> > >> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> Want to start your own business? >> http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > Cheap talk? > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Robbie Walker <robbie(at)atlanticpkg.com>
Subject: Re: Vans calenders
Date: Nov 27, 2006
Where send $$$? Visa/MC/Paypal/Cash/Check/Money Order ??? Robbie Walker Airplane Workshop... err I mean HOUSE status: they've cleared the lot. On Nov 27, 2006, at 9:48 AM, bill crothers wrote: > > > done, all 8 sold, will continue to take orders all > day, then will order however many we total by end of > day. 1st batch on there way already. RR > > --- Lenleg(at)aol.com wrote: > >> >> Bill: >> >> I will take the other three !! >> >> Len >> >> >> In a message dated 11/27/2006 9:07:46 AM Eastern >> Standard Time, >> bill28104(at)yahoo.com writes: >> >> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: bill >> crothers >> >> Bowen/Wright/Repucci in...3 more to go. >> >> --- Carter Wright wrote: >> >>> Wright" >>> >>> Autographed? how cool! I'd like one, too. >>> >>> Carter >>> >>> >> > _________________________________________________________________ >>> All-in-one security and maintenance for your PC. >>> Get a free 90-day trial! >>> >>> >>> >>> Click on >>> about >>> provided >>> www.buildersbooks.com >>> Admin. >>> >>> browse >>> Subscriptions page, >>> FAQ, >>> >> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> Want to start your own business? >> http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > Cheap talk? > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 11/26/06
From: lee.logan(at)gulfstream.com
Date: Nov 27, 2006
Guys: For the record, it is true that we did not have an index speed for the Waco that participated and had to take his word for the speed his airplane was capable of. That was true for two others in the race as well (I would have thought that with 420 indexes I would have had them all, but no such luck). That was our first year with the "Race" and we had a few things to learn. One is that people are competitive and really like to win!!! That is why this year it will be mandatory to contact us before the race with the model and engine information on the airplane they will be flying so we can ensure that we have a "factory" number for every index. There was one RV that was right in there and a Grumman Tiger which flew right on his index as well. Very well flown aircraft and probably the aircraft that actually performed best relative to their true factory performance figures. I believe this year we will have most of the bugs worked out of the model and will be able to "judge" the event better----those without a certified "book" factory 75% cruise speed to race against will be welcome to race but will not be scored. And just so you know, as a practical matter it will be aerodynamically hard for any airplane to achieve an average speed faster than their index. We will look very hard at times turned in that are significant average beaters. One solution to the problem would be to have all airplanes come to Ridgeland first to be mounted with portable GPS devices or something similar, but that would be an additional hassle for racers that we are hoping to avoid. I will publish the handicapping formula on our website well prior to the race (it is in the process of being refined at the moment by the senior performance engineer at Gulfstream Aerospace), so that racers will know both their "index" target and how their actual flying performance will be scored. In any event, we have no desire to drive people away from what should be a truly fun event by fouling up the details. We are adding trophies all the way through 5th place this year and with the other changes we make as we learn more about how to manage this relatively unique event, it should help us to make it both a more challenging and an even more exciting event. Please take a look at our website: www.racetoridgeland.com for the latest details. I've just added an "Info/FAQ" section that will help those who have general questions and will be glad to answer specific inquiries directly. The really neat thing about the Race to Ridgeland was that between: The race, the Spot Landing Contest and the practice for it, the antiques that flew just for show, the glider flights, and some just plain fun flying, there were airplanes in the air over the airfield all day long. I greatly appreciated Palmetto Flight's participation and enthusiasm last year (which was matched, I think, by the enthusiasm of the crowd who watched it!) and personally I'm very much looking forward to your participation again next year. While I can't guarantee a perfect race and I certainly can't guarantee that very fast aircraft like RV's will necessarily perform closer to their indexes than slower aircraft (or not), we have put no small effort into creating a formula that is as close to fair to all as we can make it. It may eventually work out that one or the other class or model of aircraft come to dominate just because their manufacturer's published speeds are truly conservative and actually attainable while others are not. If that happens, perhaps like NASCAR, we'll have to make some adjustments. In the meantime, the idea is to accept a challenge, hone your flying and navigational skills, and above all, have fun! P.S. Radomir: There will be a local "official photographer", but since your work is "nationally recognized", I'd love to have you take all the shots you'd like as well. We'll use some of the best for our website for the 2008 event. Lee... ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 27, 2006
From: Rad Z <microsmurfer(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 11/26/06
We had fun last time.. and that's important :) One glitch we encountered was that there was no one to take our official time at Ridgeland (of all the places... :) I'll definitely try to make it next time.. would love to take some fun pics. Radomir ----- Original Message ---- From: "lee.logan(at)gulfstream.com" <lee.logan(at)gulfstream.com> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 11:01:08 AM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 11/26/06 Guys: For the record, it is true that we did not have an index speed for the Waco that participated and had to take his word for the speed his airplane was capable of. That was true for two others in the race as well (I would have thought that with 420 indexes I would have had them all, but no such luck). That was our first year with the "Race" and we had a few things to learn. One is that people are competitive and really like to win!!! That is why this year it will be mandatory to contact us before the race with the model and engine information on the airplane they will be flying so we can ensure that we have a "factory" number for every index. One solution to the problem would be to have all airplanes come to Ridgeland first to be mounted with portable GPS devices or something similar, but that would be an additional hassle for racers that we are hoping to avoid. I will publish the handicapping formula on our website well prior to the race (it is in the process of being refined at the moment by the senior performance engineer at Gulfstream Aerospace), so that racers will know both their "index" target and how their actual flying performance will be scored. P.S. Radomir: There will be a local "official photographer", but since your work is "nationally recognized", I'd love to have you take all the shots you'd like as well. We'll use some of the best for our website for the 2008 event. Lee... ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Lenleg(at)aol.com
Date: Nov 27, 2006
Subject: Accident Database
Guys: I was just told over the weekend that a freternity brother of mine from Burlington was killed in the crash of his experimental plane returning to Burlington from Virginia. I have searched and can't find anything .... where should I look. His name is Mike Williams. I don't know what kind of plane. Len ________________________________________________________________________________
From: JohnCClarkVA(at)cs.com
Date: Nov 27, 2006
Subject: Re: Accident Database
Len, I am sorry to hear about your friend. Usually, the first place the information shows is in the FAA data base. Look in www.faa.gov under accidents. Nothing is there yet, but after a long weekend, it may take a day or two. I'll check with our Mid-Atlantic office tomorrow. Regards, John. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Lenleg(at)aol.com
Date: Nov 27, 2006
Subject: Re: Accident Database
Thanks John ... should have put in my first email ... the accident supposedly happened around October. Len In a message dated 11/27/2006 8:39:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, JohnCClarkVA(at)cs.com writes: Len, I am sorry to hear about your friend. Usually, the first place the information shows is in the FAA data base. Look in www.faa.gov under accidents. Nothing is there yet, but after a long weekend, it may take a day or two. I'll check with our Mid-Atlantic office tomorrow. Regards, John. (http://www.buildersbooks.com/) (http://www.homebuilthelp.com/) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List) ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Accident Database
From: "David Lee" <odlee(at)bellsouth.net>
Date: Nov 27, 2006
Len, Sorry to hear about your friend. You can try the NTSB's data base : http://www.aopa.org/asf/ntsb/search_ntsb.cfm This site is through the AOPA, but it is also available by going direct. Regards, David Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=77462#77462 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
Subject: Accident Database
Date: Nov 27, 2006
Sorry to hear that. http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/month.asp - Larry Bowen Larry(at)BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com _____ From: Lenleg(at)aol.com [mailto:Lenleg(at)aol.com] Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 8:24 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Accident Database Guys: I was just told over the weekend that a freternity brother of mine from Burlington was killed in the crash of his experimental plane returning to Burlington from Virginia. I have searched and can't find anything .... where should I look. His name is Mike Williams. I don't know what kind of plane. Len ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 27, 2006
From: bill crothers <bill28104(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 11/26/06
BTW Lee, how's that Rocket coming along? any chance we will see it fly in next yr. or so? also, 3rd annual New Yrs. Day lunch is clsg in on us. Lets find some unique centrally located venue since NMB likes to close down thjat day...any suggestions welcome. RenoRed. --- lee.logan(at)gulfstream.com wrote: > lee.logan(at)gulfstream.com > > Guys: For the record, it is true that we did not > have an index speed for > the Waco that participated and had to take his word > for the speed his > airplane was capable of. That was true for two > others in the race as well > (I would have thought that with 420 indexes I would > have had them all, but > no such luck). That was our first year with the > "Race" and we had a few > things to learn. One is that people are competitive > and really like to > win!!! That is why this year it will be mandatory > to contact us before the > race with the model and engine information on the > airplane they will be > flying so we can ensure that we have a "factory" > number for every index. > > There was one RV that was right in there and a > Grumman Tiger which flew > right on his index as well. Very well flown > aircraft and probably the > aircraft that actually performed best relative to > their true factory > performance figures. I believe this year we will > have most of the bugs > worked out of the model and will be able to "judge" > the event > better----those without a certified "book" factory > 75% cruise speed to race > against will be welcome to race but will not be > scored. And just so you > know, as a practical matter it will be > aerodynamically hard for any > airplane to achieve an average speed faster than > their index. We will > look very hard at times turned in that are > significant average beaters. > > One solution to the problem would be to have all > airplanes come to > Ridgeland first to be mounted with portable GPS > devices or something > similar, but that would be an additional hassle for > racers that we are > hoping to avoid. I will publish the handicapping > formula on our website > well prior to the race (it is in the process of > being refined at the moment > by the senior performance engineer at Gulfstream > Aerospace), so that racers > will know both their "index" target and how their > actual flying performance > will be scored. > > In any event, we have no desire to drive people away > from what should be a > truly fun event by fouling up the details. We are > adding trophies all the > way through 5th place this year and with the other > changes we make as we > learn more about how to manage this relatively > unique event, it should help > us to make it both a more challenging and an even > more exciting event. > Please take a look at our website: > www.racetoridgeland.com for the latest > details. I've just added an "Info/FAQ" section that > will help those who > have general questions and will be glad to answer > specific inquiries > directly. The really neat thing about the Race to > Ridgeland was that > between: The race, the Spot Landing Contest and the > practice for it, the > antiques that flew just for show, the glider > flights, and some just plain > fun flying, there were airplanes in the air over the > airfield all day long. > > I greatly appreciated Palmetto Flight's > participation and enthusiasm last > year (which was matched, I think, by the enthusiasm > of the crowd who > watched it!) and personally I'm very much looking > forward to your > participation again next year. While I can't > guarantee a perfect race and > I certainly can't guarantee that very fast aircraft > like RV's will > necessarily perform closer to their indexes than > slower aircraft (or not), > we have put no small effort into creating a formula > that is as close to > fair to all as we can make it. It may eventually > work out that one or the > other class or model of aircraft come to dominate > just because their > manufacturer's published speeds are truly > conservative and actually > attainable while others are not. If that happens, > perhaps like NASCAR, > we'll have to make some adjustments. In the > meantime, the idea is to > accept a challenge, hone your flying and > navigational skills, and above > all, have fun! > > P.S. Radomir: There will be a local "official > photographer", but since > your work is "nationally recognized", I'd love to > have you take all the > shots you'd like as well. We'll use some of the > best for our website for > the 2008 event. > > Lee... > > > > Click on > about > provided > www.buildersbooks.com > Admin. > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
Subject: New Yrs Lunch
Date: Nov 27, 2006
N. Myrtle again works for me. Or Myrtle Intl if there is something good nearby for lunch. Or Ocracoke. Or .... - Larry Bowen Larry(at)BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com > -----Original Message----- > From: bill crothers [mailto:bill28104(at)yahoo.com] > Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 10:41 PM > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 2 > Msgs - 11/26/06 > > --> > > BTW Lee, how's that Rocket coming along? any chance we will > see it fly in next yr. or so? also, 3rd annual New Yrs. Day > lunch is clsg in on us. Lets find some unique centrally > located venue since NMB likes to close down thjat day...any > suggestions welcome. > RenoRed. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 28, 2006
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Who is "Matt Dralle" & What Are "The Lists"? [Please
Read] Dear Listers, Who is Matt Dralle and what exactly are these Lists? Well, I've been working in the information technology industry for over 20 years primarily in computer networking design and implementation. I have also done extensive work in web development and CGI design during this period. I started the Matronics Email Lists back in 1990 with about 30 fellow RV builders from around the world. Since that time, I have added 63 other kinds of aircraft related Lists to the line up and numerous other List related services such as the Forums, Wiki, Archives and Search Engine just to name a few. For flexibility and reliability, I have chosen to run all of my own servers here locally. Other List-related systems include a 1 Gigabit, fully switched network infrastructure, a commercial-grade Netscreen firewall, a Barracuda spam filter, a local T1 Internet router, and a commercial-grade business T1 Internet connection with full static addressing. The computer servers found here include a brand new, quad-processor Xeon Linux server for List web services, a dual-processor Xeon Linux system dedicated to the email processing List functions, and another P4 Linux system serving as a remote storage disk farm for the archives, databases, and for an on-line hard drive-based backup system with 3.2 Terra Bytes of storage, soon to be upgraded to over 6 Terra Bytes! This entire system is protected by three large, commercial-grade uninterrupted power supply (UPS) systems that assure the Lists are available even during a local power outage! Speaking of power, imagine how much electricity it takes to run all of these systems. One month this Summer, I had a staggering $1368 bill for electricity alone! I recently upgraded all of the computer racking infrastructure including new power feeds and dedicated air conditioning for the room that serves as the Computer Center for the Matronics Email Lists. This year I added another rack to house the new MONSTER quad-processor web system that didn't quite fit into the first rack! Here's a composite photo of the List Computer Center before the addition of the second rack: http://www.matronics.com/MattDralle-ListComputerCenter.jpg As you can see, I take running these Lists very seriously and I am dedicated to providing an always-on, 24x7x365 experience for each and every Lister. But building and running this system isn't cheap. As I've stated before, I don't support any of these systems with commercial advertising on the Lists. It is supported 100% through List member Contributions! That means you... and you... and YOU! To that end, I hold a List Fund Raiser each November and ask that members make a small Contribution to support the continued operation and upgrade of this ever-expanding system. Its solely YOUR Contributions that keeps it running! Please make a Contribution today to support these Lists! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matronics / Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore CA 94551-0347 USA (Please include your email address on the check!) Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: New Yrs Lunch
Date: Nov 28, 2006
Cappy and Lynne are in. Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Bowen To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 10:49 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: New Yrs Lunch N. Myrtle again works for me. Or Myrtle Intl if there is something good nearby for lunch. Or Ocracoke. Or .... - Larry Bowen Larry(at)BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com > -----Original Message----- > From: bill crothers [mailto:bill28104(at)yahoo.com] > Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 10:41 PM > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 2 > Msgs - 11/26/06 > > --> > > BTW Lee, how's that Rocket coming along? any chance we will > see it fly in next yr. or so? also, 3rd annual New Yrs. Day > lunch is clsg in on us. Lets find some unique centrally > located venue since NMB likes to close down thjat day...any > suggestions welcome. > RenoRed. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 28, 2006
From: "Lee Logan" <leeloganster(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Aileron Trim System
Anyone have a copy of the RV-8 aileron trim installation document? Mine has mysteriously disappeared; I have most of the installation done, but don't have the dimensions for drilling up the trim push rod for connection of the springs, etc. Can anyone get their hands on one that could be faxed to me at work or at home, please? 912 965 7356 work 843 726 8800 home Thanks! Lee... ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
Subject: Aileron Trim System
Date: Nov 28, 2006
I'll look in the "the barn" tonight. - Larry Bowen Larry(at)BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com _____ From: Lee Logan [mailto:leeloganster(at)gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 2:08 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Aileron Trim System Anyone have a copy of the RV-8 aileron trim installation document? Mine has mysteriously disappeared; I have most of the installation done, but don't have the dimensions for drilling up the trim push rod for connection of the springs, etc. Can anyone get their hands on one that could be faxed to me at work or at home, please? 912 965 7356 work 843 726 8800 home Thanks! Lee... ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
Subject: Photo shoot
Date: Nov 28, 2006
I got a couple photos this evening beside a Kitfox. Good MCA practice. :) http://picasaweb.google.com/BowenAero/RV8 - Larry Bowen Larry(at)BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 28, 2006
From: "James Clark" <jclarkmail(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Photo shoot
Nice. James On 11/28/06, Larry Bowen wrote: > > I got a couple photos this evening beside a Kitfox. Good MCA practice. > :) > > http://picasaweb.google.com/BowenAero/RV8 > > - > Larry Bowen > Larry(at)BowenAero.com > http://BowenAero.com > > * > > > * > > -- This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at james(at)nextupventures.com . ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 28, 2006
From: "James Clark" <jclarkmail(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Photo shoot
I probably should have said "nifty"! :-) James On 11/28/06, James Clark wrote: > > Nice. > > James > > > On 11/28/06, Larry Bowen wrote: > > > > I got a couple photos this evening beside a Kitfox. Good MCA > > practice. :) > > > > http://picasaweb.google.com/BowenAero/RV8 > > > > - > > Larry Bowen > > Larry(at)BowenAero.com > > http://BowenAero.com > > > > * > > > > > > www.aeroelectric.com > > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List > > > > * > > > > > > > -- > This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at > james(at)nextupventures.com . > -- This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at james(at)nextupventures.com . ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 29, 2006
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just A Few Days Left; Trailing Last Year...
Dear Listers, There are just a few more days left of this year's List Fund Raiser! Response has been very good, but we are behind last year in the number of people that have made a Contribution and as a percentage of the total number of subscribers. Please remember that there isn't any sort of commercial advertising on the Lists and the *only* means of keeping these Lists running is through your Contributions during this Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution today! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 11/28/06
From: lee.logan(at)gulfstream.com
Date: Nov 29, 2006
Some notes: 1. Beautiful shots of Nifty; the one landing at Seaford is my new computer screen backdrop. Pushed a nice shot of an F1 off stage to do it too!! 2. BTW, I got the guys at Van's to fax me the trim installation page. Thanks for checking in Larry, but I've got it now. Looks like I missed the size on one of the flange cuts, but no harm done; I'll square that away tonight. 3. Bill: I'll send you a couple of pix of my Rocket-in-progress offline. I tried to send some yesterday to the Southeast list forgetting that that's a no-no. The airplane is coming along pretty well: On its feet all around, wings, HS, and VS on permanently, and the ailerons and flaps finalized. Much of the airplane is painted and the interior is going in---there is no help at all in the F1 builder's book on interior design or installation! Some of the early builders have set very high standards for interior fit-out and of course, everyone uses RV practices and customs as a guide. I am hoping to recieve my instrument panel populated with my avionics suite from Eastern Avionics this week. Now, if I can find a big main 540 crank, I'm in business. The crank on the Lycoming 540 core I bought turned out not to pass muster, so I'm shopping. I have just about everything else for the engine I need. Anyway, sorry (long answer), but I work on the airplane nearly every day and pretty much all day all weekend. That's why I haven't seen you guys at Stantons or anywhere else in awhile. Hoping to have it in the air by the Race to Ridgeland, but to be honest that will be a tall order since I only started on the airplane in April of this year. Lee... Lee Logan Government Programs and Sales Support Gulfstream Aerospace Corporation Savannah, Georgia This e-mail message, including all attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain legally privileged and confidential information. If you are not an intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have either received this message in error or through interception, and that any review, use, distribution, copying or disclosure of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited and is subject to criminal and civil penalties. All personal messages express solely the sender's views and not those of Gulfstream Aerospace Corporation. If you received this message in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 29, 2006
From: bill crothers <bill28104(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 11/28/06
assume you still have the -4, so try to meet us for the new yr. lunch, haven't decided where or which day, but will advise on SERV site. look forward to seeing pix. Reno --- lee.logan(at)gulfstream.com wrote: > lee.logan(at)gulfstream.com > > Some notes: > > 1. Beautiful shots of Nifty; the one landing at > Seaford is my new computer > screen backdrop. Pushed a nice shot of an F1 off > stage to do it too!! > > 2. BTW, I got the guys at Van's to fax me the trim > installation page. > Thanks for checking in Larry, but I've got it now. > Looks like I missed > the size on one of the flange cuts, but no harm > done; I'll square that away > tonight. > > 3. Bill: I'll send you a couple of pix of my > Rocket-in-progress offline. > I tried to send some yesterday to the Southeast list > forgetting that that's > a no-no. The airplane is coming along pretty well: > On its feet all > around, wings, HS, and VS on permanently, and the > ailerons and flaps > finalized. Much of the airplane is painted and the > interior is going > in---there is no help at all in the F1 builder's > book on interior design or > installation! Some of the early builders have set > very high standards for > interior fit-out and of course, everyone uses RV > practices and customs as a > guide. I am hoping to recieve my instrument panel > populated with my > avionics suite from Eastern Avionics this week. > Now, if I can find a big > main 540 crank, I'm in business. The crank on the > Lycoming 540 core I > bought turned out not to pass muster, so I'm > shopping. I have just about > everything else for the engine I need. > > Anyway, sorry (long answer), but I work on the > airplane nearly every day > and pretty much all day all weekend. That's why I > haven't seen you guys at > Stantons or anywhere else in awhile. Hoping to > have it in the air by the > Race to Ridgeland, but to be honest that will be a > tall order since I only > started on the airplane in April of this year. > > Lee... > > Lee Logan > Government Programs and Sales Support > Gulfstream Aerospace Corporation > Savannah, Georgia > > > This e-mail message, including all attachments, is > for the sole use of the > intended recipient(s) and may contain legally > privileged and confidential > information. If you are not an intended recipient, > you are hereby notified > that you have either received this message in error > or through > interception, and that any review, use, > distribution, copying or disclosure > of this message or its attachments is strictly > prohibited and is subject to > criminal and civil penalties. All personal messages > express solely the > sender's views and not those of Gulfstream Aerospace > Corporation. If you > received this message in error, please contact the > sender by reply e-mail > and destroy all copies of the original message. > > > > > Click on > about > provided > www.buildersbooks.com > Admin. > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 30, 2006
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Last "Official" Day Of The List Fund Raiser!
Dear Listers, Well, its November 30th and that means three things... 1) Today I am now officially 43 years old... (arg...) 2) It marks that last "official" day of the List Fund Raiser! 3) Its the last day I will be bugging everyone for a whole year! :-) If you use the Lists and enjoy the content and the no-advertising, no-spam, and no-censorship way in which they're run, please make a Contribution today to support their continued operation and upkeep. Your $20 or $30 goes a long way to further the List operation and keep the bills paid. I will be posting the List of Contributors next week, so make sure your name is on it! :-) Thank you to everyone that has made a Contribution so far this year! It is greatly appreciated. List Contributions: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 30, 2006
From: bill crothers <bill28104(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Vans calenders have shipped
1st batch of 8 calenders on their way...hope to get 'Ace' Leggette to sign them Sunday if they arrive by then. Cheap talk? ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Saturday
Date: Dec 01, 2006
Randy and I are planning an morning flight to the mountains to see his log cabin house from the air. We plan to be at FQD for lunch at High Noon. Anybody looking for something to do, we will see you at FQD. Cappy ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 01, 2006
From: John S Cargill <sportflying(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Sat.
Is there anything special going on this weekend Sat is the last day that I can Fly the RV10 as it is sold and going to UT. John S Cargill 919 605 8222 Let Us Make Your Experimental Dreams Come True www.2bumsaircraft.com --------------------------------- ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Sat.
Date: Dec 01, 2006
Cappy and Randy are going to FQD for lunch at 12:00. ----- Original Message ----- From: John S Cargill To: SERV Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 9:05 AM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Sat. Is there anything special going on this weekend Sat is the last day that I can Fly the RV10 as it is sold and going to UT. John S Cargill 919 605 8222 Let Us Make Your Experimental Dreams Come True www.2bumsaircraft.com ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 01, 2006
From: John S Cargill <sportflying(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: RV 10
Is anyone intrested in seeing and flying the RV10 on Sat. If anyone wants to let me know and I will meet you at TTA Sanford NC John S Cargill 919 605 8222 Let Us Make Your Experimental Dreams Come True www.2bumsaircraft.com --------------------------------- ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Lenleg(at)aol.com
Date: Dec 01, 2006
Subject: SERV Merchandise is In / Xmas Party
Guys: Picked up the merchandise this morning ... have not gone through it. Palmetto Flight is planning a formation practice on Sunday afternoon at Monroe (EQY) at 1:30pm ... I will bring the stuff with me .. you are welcome to pick it up there before we start flying. Larry Bowen and I have been considering having a Xmas party/gathering .... if we go through the efforts of putting this together .. will you come ??? More than welcome to have it at my hanger ... INT is not the best place though ... lack of parking for airplanes and access to ramp for dirivers ... They may be willing to give us the meeting area in the main terminal ... park airplanes below the tower on the apron area and we could be inside in the warmth ??? Suggest we have a fly market also ... I know I have lots of stuff left over that I would love to sell ... I suppose almost everyone does ... we could set up tables and would be a great opportunity for builders (and flyers) to get good deals on extras !!! Let Larry or myself know what you think ??? Len ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 01, 2006
From: bill crothers <bill28104(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: SERV Merchandise is In / Xmas Party
Great idea...suggest you consider EQY. lots of ramp space meeting space/ceep fuel. I can arrange if it fits. RR --- Lenleg(at)aol.com wrote: > Guys: > > Picked up the merchandise this morning ... have not > gone through it. > > Palmetto Flight is planning a formation practice on > Sunday afternoon at > Monroe (EQY) at 1:30pm ... I will bring the stuff > with me .. you are welcome to > pick it up there before we start flying. > > Larry Bowen and I have been considering having a > Xmas party/gathering .... > if we go through the efforts of putting this > together .. will you come ??? > > More than welcome to have it at my hanger ... INT is > not the best place > though ... lack of parking for airplanes and access > to ramp for dirivers ... > > They may be willing to give us the meeting area in > the main terminal ... > park airplanes below the tower on the apron area and > we could be inside in the > warmth ??? Suggest we have a fly market also ... I > know I have lots of stuff > left over that I would love to sell ... I suppose > almost everyone does ... we > could set up tables and would be a great opportunity > for builders (and > flyers) to get good deals on extras !!! > > Let Larry or myself know what you think ??? > > Len > Cheap talk? ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Ron Schreck" <ronschreck(at)alltel.net>
Subject: SERV Merchandise is In / Xmas Party
Date: Dec 01, 2006
Have to got to ILM on Sunday if weather holds. Sorry. How about Saturday? Smokey -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of bill crothers Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 2:35 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: SERV Merchandise is In / Xmas Party --> Great idea...suggest you consider EQY. lots of ramp space meeting space/ceep fuel. I can arrange if it fits. RR --- Lenleg(at)aol.com wrote: > Guys: > > Picked up the merchandise this morning ... have not > gone through it. > > Palmetto Flight is planning a formation practice on > Sunday afternoon at > Monroe (EQY) at 1:30pm ... I will bring the stuff > with me .. you are welcome to > pick it up there before we start flying. > > Larry Bowen and I have been considering having a > Xmas party/gathering .... > if we go through the efforts of putting this > together .. will you come ??? > > More than welcome to have it at my hanger ... INT is > not the best place > though ... lack of parking for airplanes and access > to ramp for dirivers ... > > They may be willing to give us the meeting area in > the main terminal ... > park airplanes below the tower on the apron area and > we could be inside in the > warmth ??? Suggest we have a fly market also ... I > know I have lots of stuff > left over that I would love to sell ... I suppose > almost everyone does ... we > could set up tables and would be a great opportunity > for builders (and > flyers) to get good deals on extras !!! > > Let Larry or myself know what you think ??? > > Len > Cheap talk? ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Ron Schreck" <ronschreck(at)alltel.net>
Subject: SERV Merchandise is In / Xmas Party
Date: Dec 01, 2006
What about Twin Lakes! Smokey -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lenleg(at)aol.com Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 12:18 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: SERV Merchandise is In / Xmas Party Guys: Picked up the merchandise this morning ... have not gone through it. Palmetto Flight is planning a formation practice on Sunday afternoon at Monroe (EQY) at 1:30pm ... I will bring the stuff with me .. you are welcome to pick it up there before we start flying. Larry Bowen and I have been considering having a Xmas party/gathering .... if we go through the efforts of putting this together .. will you come ??? More than welcome to have it at my hanger ... INT is not the best place though ... lack of parking for airplanes and access to ramp for dirivers ... They may be willing to give us the meeting area in the main terminal ... park airplanes below the tower on the apron area and we could be inside in the warmth ??? Suggest we have a fly market also ... I know I have lots of stuff left over that I would love to sell ... I suppose almost everyone does ... we could set up tables and would be a great opportunity for builders (and flyers) to get good deals on extras !!! Let Larry or myself know what you think ??? Len ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 01, 2006
Subject: SERV Merchandise is In / Xmas Party
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
That's possible. But I also wonder if an after-holiday party would be better. Schedules are tight now. We're are likely doing something New Years day at the coast. January - March are a little slow for aviation events. Etc.... Just a thought....... ***What does everyone else think?*** -- Larry Bowen Larry(at)BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com Ron Schreck wrote: > What about Twin Lakes! > > Smokey > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of > Lenleg(at)aol.com > Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 12:18 PM > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: SERV Merchandise is In / Xmas Party > > > Guys: > > Picked up the merchandise this morning ... have not gone through it. > > Palmetto Flight is planning a formation practice on Sunday afternoon at > Monroe (EQY) at 1:30pm ... I will bring the stuff with me .. you are > welcome to pick it up there before we start flying. > > Larry Bowen and I have been considering having a Xmas party/gathering > .... if we go through the efforts of putting this together .. will you > come ??? > > More than welcome to have it at my hanger ... INT is not the best place > though ... lack of parking for airplanes and access to ramp for dirivers > ... > > They may be willing to give us the meeting area in the main terminal ... > park airplanes below the tower on the apron area and we could be inside > in the warmth ??? Suggest we have a fly market also ... I know I have > lots of stuff left over that I would love to sell ... I suppose almost > everyone does ... we could set up tables and would be a great > opportunity for builders (and flyers) to get good deals on extras !!! > > Let Larry or myself know what you think ??? > > Len > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Dale Ensing" <densing(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: SERV Xmas Party
Date: Dec 01, 2006
Len, Would love to attend a SERV gathering. Dale Ensing ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 02, 2006
From: John S Cargill <sportflying(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Saturday RV10
Is anyone comming to sanford TTA to see and fly the RV10 John S Cargill 919 605 8222 Let Us Make Your Experimental Dreams Come True www.2bumsaircraft.com --------------------------------- ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "tadsargent" <tadsargent(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: SERV Merchandise is In / Xmas Party
Date: Dec 02, 2006
Do it I'll come Tad ----- Original Message ----- From: Lenleg(at)aol.com To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 12:17 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: SERV Merchandise is In / Xmas Party Guys: Picked up the merchandise this morning ... have not gone through it. Palmetto Flight is planning a formation practice on Sunday afternoon at Monroe (EQY) at 1:30pm ... I will bring the stuff with me .. you are welcome to pick it up there before we start flying. Larry Bowen and I have been considering having a Xmas party/gathering .... if we go through the efforts of putting this together .. will you come ??? More than welcome to have it at my hanger ... INT is not the best place though ... lack of parking for airplanes and access to ramp for dirivers ... They may be willing to give us the meeting area in the main terminal ... park airplanes below the tower on the apron area and we could be inside in the warmth ??? Suggest we have a fly market also ... I know I have lots of stuff left over that I would love to sell ... I suppose almost everyone does ... we could set up tables and would be a great opportunity for builders (and flyers) to get good deals on extras !!! Let Larry or myself know what you think ??? Len ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 11/29/06
From: lee.logan(at)gulfstream.com
Date: Dec 04, 2006
Bill and all: Thanks for the heads up; I'll be on the lookout for the New Years lunch. The Governor's family has a fly-in at his place down here every New Years Day... we've been attending that for several years now. If the SERV event is on Saturday or Sunday, that would be great. I do in fact still have access to my RV-4 but in fact, I sold it to someone here at the Ridgeland Airport after he saw how much fun I was having in it! I wasn't going to sell until I was finished with the F1, but he offered to buy it and let me fly it all I wanted. Pretty good deal for both of us! Interestingly, Governor Sanford needed to get over to the Hilton Head airport after their fly-in last year and his brother (who is a huge fan of general aviation) asked me to fly the Governor there in my RV! It was a lot of fun: Me, the Governor, two shotguns, a clothing bag, and the Governor's State of the State speech in a big binder. The "yellow peril" was full up!! Fun things of all kinds happen in RV's!!! Regards, Lee... ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "David Davenport" <ddavenport5(at)nc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: SERV Merchandise is In / Xmas Party
Date: Dec 04, 2006
If I'm in town, I'll try to make it. David Davenport ----- Original Message ----- From: tadsargent To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 8:14 AM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: SERV Merchandise is In / Xmas Party Do it I'll come Tad ----- Original Message ----- From: Lenleg(at)aol.com To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 12:17 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: SERV Merchandise is In / Xmas Party Guys: Picked up the merchandise this morning ... have not gone through it. Palmetto Flight is planning a formation practice on Sunday afternoon at Monroe (EQY) at 1:30pm ... I will bring the stuff with me .. you are welcome to pick it up there before we start flying. Larry Bowen and I have been considering having a Xmas party/gathering .... if we go through the efforts of putting this together .. will you come ??? More than welcome to have it at my hanger ... INT is not the best place though ... lack of parking for airplanes and access to ramp for dirivers ... They may be willing to give us the meeting area in the main terminal ... park airplanes below the tower on the apron area and we could be inside in the warmth ??? Suggest we have a fly market also ... I know I have lots of stuff left over that I would love to sell ... I suppose almost everyone does ... we could set up tables and would be a great opportunity for builders (and flyers) to get good deals on extras !!! Let Larry or myself know what you think ??? Len href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com href="http://www.kitlog.com">www.kitlog.com href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.m atronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 04, 2006
From: bill crothers <bill28104(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: New Years lunch
The 3rd annual SERV N. Years lunch will again be held at N. Myrtle Beach by popular demand...Saturday 12/30, so as to assure that we find a good seafood meal nearby. Meet at Strand FBO noonish wx. permitting for shuttle to somewhere...Benjamins or similar. Ck. in at your leasure to make (tentative) reservations so we can handle transportation for the masses...great way to start a new year filled w/ many great stories from the past, and plans for future gatherings...seeya, Reno Red et al...(tower staff promises to make nice this yr., James) ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: New Years lunch
Date: Dec 04, 2006
Cappy and Lynne are in! ----- Original Message ----- From: bill crothers To: SERV Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 4:38 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: New Years lunch The 3rd annual SERV N. Years lunch will again be held at N. Myrtle Beach by popular demand...Saturday 12/30, so as to assure that we find a good seafood meal nearby. Meet at Strand FBO noonish wx. permitting for shuttle to somewhere...Benjamins or similar. Ck. in at your leasure to make (tentative) reservations so we can handle transportation for the masses...great way to start a new year filled w/ many great stories from the past, and plans for future gatherings...seeya, Reno Red et al...(tower staff promises to make nice this yr., James) ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Lenleg(at)aol.com
Date: Dec 04, 2006
Subject: Re: New Years lunch
Len and Donna Leggette are in !! In a message dated 12/4/2006 5:16:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, bill28104(at)yahoo.com writes: --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: bill crothers The 3rd annual SERV N. Years lunch will again be held at N. Myrtle Beach by popular demand...Saturday 12/30, so as to assure that we find a good seafood meal nearby. Meet at Strand FBO noonish wx. permitting for shuttle to somewhere...Benjamins or similar. Ck. in at your leasure to make (tentative) reservations so we can handle transportation for the masses...great way to start a new year filled w/ many great stories from the past, and plans for future gatherings...seeya, Reno Red et al...(tower staff promises to make nice this yr., James) ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: EAA
Date: Dec 05, 2006
Save your December Sport Aviation. Miss Izzy is on page 80. Cappy ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 05, 2006
From: Rad Z <microsmurfer(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: EAA
SERV is getting famous :) ----- Original Message ---- From: Steve Glasgow <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2006 1:50:11 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: EAA Save your December Sport Aviation. Miss Izzy is on page 80. Cappy Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers.yahoo.com. Try it now. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
Subject: New Years lunch
Date: Dec 06, 2006
Larry & Pam will be there. - Larry Bowen Larry(at)BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com _____ From: Lenleg(at)aol.com [mailto:Lenleg(at)aol.com] Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 5:21 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: New Years lunch Len and Donna Leggette are in !! In a message dated 12/4/2006 5:16:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, bill28104(at)yahoo.com writes: The 3rd annual SERV N. Years lunch will again be held at N. Myrtle Beach by popular demand...Saturday 12/30, so as to assure that we find a good seafood meal nearby. Meet at Strand FBO noonish wx. permitting for shuttle to somewhere...Benjamins or similar. Ck. in at your leasure to make (tentative) reservations so we can handle transportation for the masses...great way to start a new year filled w/ many great stories from the past, and plans for future gatherings...seeya, Reno Red et al...(tower staff promises to make nice this yr., = sp; (And Get Some AWESOME FREE find fts ic you for nbsp; -Matt Dralle, List Use lities Day --> ==== ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: IFR panels
From: "David Lee" <odlee(at)bellsouth.net>
Date: Dec 06, 2006
What do people use for an IFR panel, mostly glass with some electric back-up instruments. Under consideration are the new ACS 3500 or dual Dynon large screens. What would you have with them for IFR? I am avoiding vac instruments and trying to avoid an IFR gps (Garmin 430). Costs and weight are a factor. This be on a RV 7 under construction. Additional ideas are welcome. All of my previous flying has been with "old fashioned" instruments plus an ifr gps (430 or -89B). Suggestions and opinions please. Thanks, David Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=79632#79632 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 06, 2006
From: Rad Z <microsmurfer(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: IFR panels
David, I wouldn't overlook a 2-screen GRT system. Feature-wise, it seems to be ahead of Dynon or AFS. Yes, it's lacking (relatively speaking) in the looks department, but it makes up for it with features that neither of the other two have (granted, details on what AFS is capable of are still pretty sketchy). Backup -- a typical trio (ASI, electric AI and altimeter) would probably work out ok. Additional point -- while I'm no authority on the subject, it's hard to picture an IFR bird today w/o an IFR/approach approved GPS. Just MHO. Radomir -7A Panel ----- Original Message ---- From: David Lee <odlee(at)bellsouth.net> Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2006 4:19:04 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: IFR panels What do people use for an IFR panel, mostly glass with some electric back-up instruments. Under consideration are the new ACS 3500 or dual Dynon large screens. What would you have with them for IFR? I am avoiding vac instruments and trying to avoid an IFR gps (Garmin 430). Costs and weight are a factor. This be on a RV 7 under construction. Additional ideas are welcome. All of my previous flying has been with "old fashioned" instruments plus an ifr gps (430 or -89B). Suggestions and opinions please. Thanks, David Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=79632#79632 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: IFR panels
From: "David Lee" <odlee(at)bellsouth.net>
Date: Dec 06, 2006
Bill & Radomir, I've been spending an inordinate amount of time looking.! I am planning the back-up instruments pretty much as outlined by Radomir, but having trouble determining whether to put in an IFR gps in. I flew a lot of IFR in the Baron and Bonanza with and without an IFR approved gps.(Used a Garmin Pilot III). It's no problem enroute. I had dual glideslopes, RMI, NDB, etc. I only shot 4-6 actual gps approaches(they are easy), rest ILS. Seems as if a 496 is great value. I am basically cheap and also trying to determine how much IFR will actually be flown in the RV. Totally different profile than my earlier aircraft. Wonder how many of the "older" military and airline flyers equip their planes? Thanks for the response. I hope to see your projects soon. David Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=79653#79653 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Bill Repucci" <bill(at)repucci.com>
Subject: Re: IFR panels
Date: Dec 06, 2006
David, I am a simple VFR type (My last plane, 1941 BC-12/65, did not even have an electrical system.) and when I talk to RV builder/owners who have equipped their planes with IFR panels I am always surprised to find that they rarely use it. To the point where many of them have told me that next time they will leave it VFR only. Maybe some of the others on the list can add there $.02 worth. Having said that, I am reserving the right to upgrade my panel in the future, if I ever get the IFR bug. As for the Garmin 496, I installed an AirGizmo (http://www.airgizmos.com/) in my panel with the angle adapter so it will be slanted towards me. Great device and it has let me build up my panel without actually owning a GPS. In January I hope the price comes down a notch so I can purchase a 496. Pictures are at the bottom of this page: http://www.repucci.com/bill/instruments.html Bill -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Lee Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 5:45 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Re: IFR panels --> Bill & Radomir, I've been spending an inordinate amount of time looking.! I am planning the back-up instruments pretty much as outlined by Radomir, but having trouble determining whether to put in an IFR gps in. I flew a lot of IFR in the Baron and Bonanza with and without an IFR approved gps.(Used a Garmin Pilot III). It's no problem enroute. I had dual glideslopes, RMI, NDB, etc. I only shot 4-6 actual gps approaches(they are easy), rest ILS. Seems as if a 496 is great value. I am basically cheap and also trying to determine how much IFR will actually be flown in the RV. Totally different profile than my earlier aircraft. Wonder how many of the "older" military and airline flyers equip their planes? Thanks for the response. I hope to see your projects soon. David Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=79653#79653 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Bill Repucci" <bill(at)repucci.com>
Subject: Glare Shield covering
Date: Dec 06, 2006
On the VAF some guy posted a picture of his glare shield. What made it unique was that he used stripes of black Velcro loops to cover it, giving him a place to stick pencils, GPS, and anything else he could think of. Thinking this was a great idea, I was able to locate some that was wide enough to cover the entire glare shield of my RV-9 with one piece. The only problem was that I had to buy an minimum size of 60" by five yards. Yep, I'll have a little bit more than I can use. If anyone of you would like to cover your glare shield with a loop section of Velcro, let me know, I'm sure we can work a deal. I'm asking $20 for an RV-8 sized piece, $25 for the -6, 7, & 9 and $30 for an RV-10. I realize that in keeping with RV-10 pricing, I should really charge something like $150 but I will keep it reasonable. The loop fabric I have ordered does not have adhesive on it but I have had good luck with proseal and my favorite, Goop Automotive Trim Adhesive. Send me an e-mail (bill(at)repucci.com) off list, if you are interested. Bill PS. Sorry, about the ad on the list. I'm just trying to recover my costs and help out other builders. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Bret Smith" <smithhb(at)tds.net>
Subject: Glare Shield covering
Date: Dec 06, 2006
Bill, why not cover your seats with it and you won't need seatbelts? Heck, look at the weight savings too. Bret Smith RV-9A (91314) Mineral Bluff, GA www.FlightInnovations.com _____ From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Repucci Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 9:26 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Glare Shield covering On the VAF some guy posted a picture of his glare shield. What made it unique was that he used stripes of black Velcro loops to cover it, giving him a place to stick pencils, GPS, and anything else he could think of. Thinking this was a great idea, I was able to locate some that was wide enough to cover the entire glare shield of my RV-9 with one piece. The only problem was that I had to buy an minimum size of 60" by five yards. Yep, I'll have a little bit more than I can use. If anyone of you would like to cover your glare shield with a loop section of Velcro, let me know, I'm sure we can work a deal. I'm asking $20 for an RV-8 sized piece, $25 for the -6, 7, & 9 and $30 for an RV-10. I realize that in keeping with RV-10 pricing, I should really charge something like $150 but I will keep it reasonable. The loop fabric I have ordered does not have adhesive on it but I have had good luck with proseal and my favorite, Goop Automotive Trim Adhesive. Send me an e-mail (bill(at)repucci.com) off list, if you are interested. Bill PS. Sorry, about the ad on the list. I'm just trying to recover my costs and help out other builders. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
Subject: Re: IFR panels
Date: Dec 06, 2006
For me, the perspective really changed when I move from building a panel to flying behind it. I have backups in my RV-8 that I will not bother to have in the 7 -- as the panel page on a Garmin x96 is good enough. And, the 'glass' the x96 is backing up is super reliable & many have internal battery backups. Maybe the answer is keep it simple, but plan for expansion and flexibility. Mostly VFR thoughts, but maybe some of it applies to your question... - Larry Bowen Larry(at)BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Repucci [mailto:bill(at)repucci.com] > Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 9:26 PM > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Re: IFR panels > > --> > > David, > > I am a simple VFR type (My last plane, 1941 BC-12/65, did not > even have an electrical system.) and when I talk to RV > builder/owners who have equipped their planes with IFR panels > I am always surprised to find that they rarely use it. To > the point where many of them have told me that next time they > will leave it VFR only. > > Maybe some of the others on the list can add there $.02 worth. > > Having said that, I am reserving the right to upgrade my > panel in the future, if I ever get the IFR bug. > > As for the Garmin 496, I installed an AirGizmo > (http://www.airgizmos.com/) in my panel with the angle > adapter so it will be slanted towards me. Great device and > it has let me build up my panel without actually owning a > GPS. In January I hope the price comes down a notch so I can > purchase a 496. Pictures are at the bottom of this page: > http://www.repucci.com/bill/instruments.html > > Bill > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On > Behalf Of David Lee > Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 5:45 PM > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Re: IFR panels > > > --> > > Bill & Radomir, > > I've been spending an inordinate amount of time looking.! I > am planning the back-up instruments pretty much as outlined > by Radomir, but having trouble determining whether to put in > an IFR gps in. I flew a lot of IFR in the Baron and Bonanza > with and without an IFR approved gps.(Used a Garmin Pilot > III). It's no problem enroute. I had dual glideslopes, RMI, > NDB, etc. I only shot 4-6 actual gps approaches(they are > easy), rest ILS. Seems as if a 496 is great value. > > I am basically cheap and also trying to determine how much > IFR will actually be flown in the RV. Totally different > profile than my earlier aircraft. Wonder how many of the > "older" military and airline flyers equip their planes? > > Thanks for the response. I hope to see your projects soon. > > David > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=79653#79653 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Photoshare, and much much more: > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "bburril" <bburril(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: IFR panels
Date: Dec 06, 2006
Bill just get a 396 it does everything that a 496 does just not as fast,and for a lot less. Ben ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Repucci" <bill(at)repucci.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 9:26 PM Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Re: IFR panels > > David, > > I am a simple VFR type (My last plane, 1941 BC-12/65, did not even have > an electrical system.) and when I talk to RV builder/owners who have > equipped their planes with IFR panels I am always surprised to find that > they rarely use it. To the point where many of them have told me that > next time they will leave it VFR only. > > Maybe some of the others on the list can add there $.02 worth. > > Having said that, I am reserving the right to upgrade my panel in the > future, if I ever get the IFR bug. > > As for the Garmin 496, I installed an AirGizmo > (http://www.airgizmos.com/) in my panel with the angle adapter so it > will be slanted towards me. Great device and it has let me build up my > panel without actually owning a GPS. In January I hope the price comes > down a notch so I can purchase a 496. Pictures are at the bottom of > this page: http://www.repucci.com/bill/instruments.html > > Bill > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of David > Lee > Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 5:45 PM > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Re: IFR panels > > > --> > > Bill & Radomir, > > I've been spending an inordinate amount of time looking.! I am planning > the back-up instruments pretty much as outlined by Radomir, but having > trouble determining whether to put in an IFR gps in. I flew a lot of IFR > in the Baron and Bonanza with and without an IFR approved gps.(Used a > Garmin Pilot III). It's no problem enroute. I had dual glideslopes, RMI, > NDB, etc. I only shot 4-6 actual gps approaches(they are easy), rest > ILS. Seems as if a 496 is great value. > > I am basically cheap and also trying to determine how much IFR will > actually be flown in the RV. Totally different profile than my earlier > aircraft. Wonder how many of the "older" military and airline flyers > equip their planes? > > Thanks for the response. I hope to see your projects soon. > > David > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=79653#79653 > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: <ronschreck(at)windstream.net>
Subject: Re: IFR panels
Date: Dec 06, 2006
David, I about fell over when you mentioned the "older military and airline flyers". Are you talking to me? I have dual screen GRT EFIS with internal GPS and a Garmin 296, Trio aiutopilot with altitude hold, SL-30 nav/com, 327 transponder and PSE audio panel with marker beacon. I have an altimeter and airspeed indicator for backup instruments. I probably won't have too many occasions to fly IFR in the RV-8, but if there is no chance of thunderstorms or iceing, why not. The GPS is great for enroute nav (I like the 296 much more than the GRT internal) and I can use the SL-30 for ILS or VOR approaches. An autopilot is a "must have" for IFR in the RV IMHO and also serves as a backup turn and bank indicator, so I don't feel the need to have a backup attitude indicator. And I certainly won't put anything in my panel that has a mecanical (electric or vacuum) gyro that will get abused every time I do acro. Ron Schreck RV-8 "Miss Izzy" Gold Hill Airpark, NC > > From: "David Lee" <odlee(at)bellsouth.net> > Date: 2006/12/06 Wed PM 05:44:56 EST > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Re: IFR panels > > > Bill & Radomir, > > I've been spending an inordinate amount of time looking.! I am planning the back-up instruments pretty much as outlined by Radomir, but having trouble determining whether to put in an IFR gps in. I flew a lot of IFR in the Baron and Bonanza with and without an IFR approved gps.(Used a Garmin Pilot III). It's no problem enroute. I had dual glideslopes, RMI, NDB, etc. I only shot 4-6 actual gps approaches(they are easy), rest ILS. Seems as if a 496 is great value. > > I am basically cheap and also trying to determine how much IFR will actually be flown in the RV. Totally different profile than my earlier aircraft. Wonder how many of the "older" military and airline flyers equip their planes? > > Thanks for the response. I hope to see your projects soon. > > David > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=79653#79653 > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "bburril" <bburril(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: IFR panels
Date: Dec 06, 2006
He said older not ancient! ----- Original Message ----- From: <ronschreck(at)windstream.net> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 10:14 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: IFR panels > > David, > > I about fell over when you mentioned the "older military and airline > flyers". Are you talking to me? > I have dual screen GRT EFIS with internal GPS and a Garmin 296, Trio > aiutopilot with altitude hold, SL-30 nav/com, 327 transponder and PSE > audio panel with marker beacon. I have an altimeter and airspeed > indicator for backup instruments. I probably won't have too many > occasions to fly IFR in the RV-8, but if there is no chance of > thunderstorms or iceing, why not. The GPS is great for enroute nav (I > like the 296 much more than the GRT internal) and I can use the SL-30 for > ILS or VOR approaches. An autopilot is a "must have" for IFR in the RV > IMHO and also serves as a backup turn and bank indicator, so I don't feel > the need to have a backup attitude indicator. And I certainly won't put > anything in my panel that has a mecanical (electric or vacuum) gyro that > will get abused every time I do acro. > > Ron Schreck > RV-8 "Miss Izzy" > Gold Hill Airpark, NC > > >> >> From: "David Lee" <odlee(at)bellsouth.net> >> Date: 2006/12/06 Wed PM 05:44:56 EST >> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com >> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Re: IFR panels >> >> >> Bill & Radomir, >> >> I've been spending an inordinate amount of time looking.! I am planning >> the back-up instruments pretty much as outlined by Radomir, but having >> trouble determining whether to put in an IFR gps in. I flew a lot of IFR >> in the Baron and Bonanza with and without an IFR approved gps.(Used a >> Garmin Pilot III). It's no problem enroute. I had dual glideslopes, RMI, >> NDB, etc. I only shot 4-6 actual gps approaches(they are easy), rest ILS. >> Seems as if a 496 is great value. >> >> I am basically cheap and also trying to determine how much IFR will >> actually be flown in the RV. Totally different profile than my earlier >> aircraft. Wonder how many of the "older" military and airline flyers >> equip their planes? >> >> Thanks for the response. I hope to see your projects soon. >> >> David >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=79653#79653 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: IFR panels
From: "David Lee" <odlee(at)bellsouth.net>
Date: Dec 06, 2006
Thanks guys, Ron, I did not mention any names!! As for the rest the opinions are varied as I suspected they might be. If you don't fly IFR you don't need to spend all the money and time. The planes are fast, responsive, light, economical, etc...all the reason I'm building. I am just use to going when the weather is not cavu, although I may change my mind after flying the RV a bit (whenever that is going to be). Still pondering. David Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=79722#79722 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Bill Repucci" <bill(at)repucci.com>
Subject: Glare Shield covering
Date: Dec 06, 2006
Good idea! I have also suggested this to a friend for his two year-old. I figure he can put it on his kid's diaper and the 2. That way the kid can't make a run for it when his wife is shopping. ;) Heck, you could also use the stuff to hang the kid on the wall why working on your plane. It would keep him out of trouble and at eye level so he could learn as you rivet. Bill -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bret Smith Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 9:51 PM Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Glare Shield covering Bill, why not cover your seats with it and you won't need seatbelts? Heck, look at the weight savings too. Bret Smith RV-9A (91314) Mineral Bluff, GA www.FlightInnovations.com _____ From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Repucci Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 9:26 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Glare Shield covering On the VAF some guy posted a picture of his glare shield. What made it unique was that he used stripes of black Velcro loops to cover it, giving him a place to stick pencils, GPS, and anything else he could think of. Thinking this was a great idea, I was able to locate some that was wide enough to cover the entire glare shield of my RV-9 with one piece. The only problem was that I had to buy an minimum size of 60" by five yards. Yep, I'll have a little bit more than I can use. If anyone of you would like to cover your glare shield with a loop section of Velcro, let me know, I'm sure we can work a deal. I'm asking $20 for an RV-8 sized piece, $25 for the -6, 7, & 9 and $30 for an RV-10. I realize that in keeping with RV-10 pricing, I should really charge something like $150 but I will keep it reasonable. The loop fabric I have ordered does not have adhesive on it but I have had good luck with proseal and my favorite, Goop Automotive Trim Adhesive. Send me an e-mail (bill(at)repucci.com) off list, if you are interested. Bill PS. Sorry, about the ad on the list. I'm just trying to recover my costs and help out other builders. href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com href="http://www.kitlog.com">www.kitlog.com href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/ch ref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.mat ronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "tadsargent" <tadsargent(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: IFR panels
Date: Dec 07, 2006
David have you considered the Garmin 300XL at 2500 or the SL30 with an indicator to be added later or hooked up to a glass panel. Tad ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lee" <odlee(at)bellsouth.net> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 5:44 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Re: IFR panels > > Bill & Radomir, > > I've been spending an inordinate amount of time looking.! I am planning > the back-up instruments pretty much as outlined by Radomir, but having > trouble determining whether to put in an IFR gps in. I flew a lot of IFR > in the Baron and Bonanza with and without an IFR approved gps.(Used a > Garmin Pilot III). It's no problem enroute. I had dual glideslopes, RMI, > NDB, etc. I only shot 4-6 actual gps approaches(they are easy), rest ILS. > Seems as if a 496 is great value. > > I am basically cheap and also trying to determine how much IFR will > actually be flown in the RV. Totally different profile than my earlier > aircraft. Wonder how many of the "older" military and airline flyers equip > their planes? > > Thanks for the response. I hope to see your projects soon. > > David > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=79653#79653 > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "tadsargent" <tadsargent(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Glare Shield covering
Date: Dec 07, 2006
MessageBill What? What do you need to write down and how often. Ok ACT says to change squak codes. call me I can remember 4 numbers. Use a piece of leather ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Repucci To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 9:26 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Glare Shield covering On the VAF some guy posted a picture of his glare shield. What made it unique was that he used stripes of black Velcro loops to cover it, giving him a place to stick pencils, GPS, and anything else he could think of. Thinking this was a great idea, I was able to locate some that was wide enough to cover the entire glare shield of my RV-9 with one piece. The only problem was that I had to buy an minimum size of 60" by five yards. Yep, I'll have a little bit more than I can use. If anyone of you would like to cover your glare shield with a loop section of Velcro, let me know, I'm sure we can work a deal. I'm asking $20 for an RV-8 sized piece, $25 for the -6, 7, & 9 and $30 for an RV-10. I realize that in keeping with RV-10 pricing, I should really charge something like $150 but I will keep it reasonable. The loop fabric I have ordered does not have adhesive on it but I have had good luck with proseal and my favorite, Goop Automotive Trim Adhesive. Send me an e-mail (bill(at)repucci.com) off list, if you are interested. Bill PS. Sorry, about the ad on the list. I'm just trying to recover my costs and help out other builders. ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: IFR panels
From: "David Lee" <odlee(at)bellsouth.net>
Date: Dec 07, 2006
Yep Tad, The SL30 w/indicator will be there. I want the 496 or equivalent for the weather since I will not have a strormscope or radar. Thought about the 300xl as it is an IFR unit, but...again why do I need two GPS units. You can go w/ the 430, eliminate the SL30, but spend more money for only the ability to shoot a WAAS approach someday! You can fly IFR with the 496, along as you can also fly the route utilizing an approved method, namely the vors. Thanks for the comments. Still want to fly in your plane someday. David Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=79787#79787 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Lenleg(at)aol.com
Date: Dec 07, 2006
Subject: Re: IFR panels
Bill: Do you have some type of inside info that prices could be coming down in January ???? Fingers crossed ... Len In a message dated 12/6/2006 9:37:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, bill(at)repucci.com writes: --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Bill Repucci" David, I am a simple VFR type (My last plane, 1941 BC-12/65, did not even have an electrical system.) and when I talk to RV builder/owners who have equipped their planes with IFR panels I am always surprised to find that they rarely use it. To the point where many of them have told me that next time they will leave it VFR only. Maybe some of the others on the list can add there $.02 worth. Having said that, I am reserving the right to upgrade my panel in the future, if I ever get the IFR bug. As for the Garmin 496, I installed an AirGizmo (http://www.airgizmos.com/) in my panel with the angle adapter so it will be slanted towards me. Great device and it has let me build up my panel without actually owning a GPS. In January I hope the price comes down a notch so I can purchase a 496. Pictures are at the bottom of this page: http://www.repucci.com/bill/instruments.html Bill -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Lee Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 5:45 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Re: IFR panels --> Bill & Radomir, I've been spending an inordinate amount of time looking.! I am planning the back-up instruments pretty much as outlined by Radomir, but having trouble determining whether to put in an IFR gps in. I flew a lot of IFR in the Baron and Bonanza with and without an IFR approved gps.(Used a Garmin Pilot III). It's no problem enroute. I had dual glideslopes, RMI, NDB, etc. I only shot 4-6 actual gps approaches(they are easy), rest ILS. Seems as if a 496 is great value. I am basically cheap and also trying to determine how much IFR will actually be flown in the RV. Totally different profile than my earlier aircraft. Wonder how many of the "older" military and airline flyers equip their planes? Thanks for the response. I hope to see your projects soon. David Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=79653#79653 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Dale Ensing" <densing(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Flight Planning Programs
Date: Dec 07, 2006
Hello SERV'ers. Would you mind participating in a simple little survey? What Flight Planning program do you use? Or, which is your favorite? How much do you pay for it? Dale Ensing ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Lenleg(at)aol.com
Date: Dec 07, 2006
Subject: Re: Flight Planning Programs
I use the AOPA one ... and the EAA one. Sometimes airnav.com ... pay $0 except for my membership fees. Len In a message dated 12/7/2006 8:28:33 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, densing(at)carolina.rr.com writes: Hello SERV'ers. Would you mind participating in a simple little survey? What Flight Planning program do you use? Or, which is your favorite? How much do you pay for it? Dale Ensing (http://www.buildersbooks.com/) (http://www.homebuilthelp.com/) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List) ________________________________________________________________________________
From: CBRxxDRV(at)aol.com
Date: Dec 07, 2006
Subject: Re: Flight Planning Programs
In a message dated 12/7/2006 8:28:33 AM Eastern Standard Time, densing(at)carolina.rr.com writes: > Would you mind participating in a simple little survey? > > What Flight Planning program do you use? Or, which is your favorite? > > How much do you pay for it? > AOPA free with membership. Sal N42917 RV4 N898SC RV8 Finish Kit ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Robbie Walker <robbie(at)atlanticpkg.com>
Subject: Re: Flight Planning Programs
Date: Dec 07, 2006
I don't fly as much as most of you, but when I rent, I use AOPA... free except for membership which I'd pay anyway. Robbie Walker On Dec 7, 2006, at 8:27 AM, Dale Ensing wrote: > Hello SERV'ers. > > Would you mind participating in a simple little survey? > > What Flight Planning program do you use? Or, which is your favorite? > > How much do you pay for it? > > Dale Ensing ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Scott Tanner" <tannerav8(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Flight Planning Programs
Date: Dec 07, 2006
Dale, I use GTE Duats, works great, and registers your session with the FAA by N-Number. Scott Tanner ----- Original Message ----- From: Dale Ensing To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 8:27 AM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Flight Planning Programs Hello SERV'ers. Would you mind participating in a simple little survey? What Flight Planning program do you use? Or, which is your favorite? How much do you pay for it? Dale Ensing ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Paul D. Franzon" <paulf(at)ncsu.edu>
Subject: Flight Planning Programs
Date: Dec 07, 2006
Frankly, I use a mish-mash.. Most of the time I check. - The FAA TFR site - http://adds.aviationweather.gov to get the weather - intellicast to track the T'storms or to get a long range forecast If I am filing or headed a long distance. - DUATS (the free version) to get an official brief, get NOTAMs and file IFR plans - AOPA site if I am headed north IFR to get the preferred routes - FSS when filing into the ADIZ Paul D. Franzon From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robbie Walker Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 8:54 AM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Flight Planning Programs I don't fly as much as most of you, but when I rent, I use AOPA... free except for membership which I'd pay anyway. Robbie Walker On Dec 7, 2006, at 8:27 AM, Dale Ensing wrote: Hello SERV'ers. Would you mind participating in a simple little survey? What Flight Planning program do you use? Or, which is your favorite? How much do you pay for it? Dale Ensing ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "David Davenport" <ddavenport5(at)nc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Flight Planning Programs
Date: Dec 07, 2006
Two opions here. If you want the best pure flight planning program out there, I like Flightsoft from RMS Technologies. (www.rmstek.com) It it a subscription service that you can jump into at about three or four different levels of service, so pick your price range. As far as freebies go, www.fltplan.com has everybody else beat hands down. Look at both sites and see which fits your needs best. David Davenport ----- Original Message ----- From: Dale Ensing To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 8:27 AM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Flight Planning Programs Hello SERV'ers. Would you mind participating in a simple little survey? What Flight Planning program do you use? Or, which is your favorite? How much do you pay for it? Dale Ensing ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 07, 2006
Subject: Re: Flight Planning Programs
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
Usually AOPA flight planning software and http://weather.aero java tools. -- Larry Bowen Larry(at)BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dale Ensing > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com > Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 8:27 AM > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Flight Planning Programs > > > Hello SERV'ers. > > Would you mind participating in a simple little survey? > > What Flight Planning program do you use? Or, which is your favorite? > > How much do you pay for it? > > Dale Ensing > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Terrence Gardner" <ttandt(at)mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Flight Planning Programs
Date: Dec 07, 2006
Fltplan.com, no charge Terry ----- Original Message ----- From: Sent: 12/7/2006 8:35:11 AM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Flight Planning Programs I use the AOPA one ... and the EAA one. Sometimes airnav.com ... pay $0 except for my membership fees. Len In a message dated 12/7/2006 8:28:33 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, densing(at)carolina.rr.com writes: Hello SERV'ers. Would you mind participating in a simple little survey? What Flight Planning program do you use? Or, which is your favorite? How much do you pay for it? Dale Ensing p://www.aeroelectric.com/">www.aeroelectric.com href="http://www.buildersbooks.com/">www.buildersbooks.com ttp://www.kitlog.com/">www.kitlog.com ttp://www.homebuilthelp.com/">www.homebuilthelp.com ://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution t href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 12 Msgs - 12/06/06
From: lee.logan(at)gulfstream.com
Date: Dec 07, 2006
David: I'm going full IFR as much for convenience as safety. In the southeas t, you will use it more often than other regions of the country. Ctc me offl ine & I'll send you a picture and outline my rationale. Btw, I AM ancient AN D ex-military!! At the airport working on mine right now! Leeloganster(at)gmail.com Regards, Lee... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ This e-mail message, including all attachments, is for the sole use of the in tended recipient(s) and may contain legally privileged and confidential infor mation. If you are not an intended recipient, you are hereby notified that y ou have either received this message in error or through interception, and th at any review, use, distribution, copying or disclosure of this message or it s attachments is strictly prohibited and is subject to criminal and civil pen alties. All personal messages express solely the sender's views and not those of Gulfstream Aerospace Corporation. 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HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html& Chapter 06-12-06&Archive=RVSouthEast Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&C hapter 06-12-06&Archive=RVSouthEast ========================= ====================== EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive ========================= ====================== ---------------------------------------------------------- RVSouthEast-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 12/06/06: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:19 PM - IFR panels (David Lee) 2. 02:07 PM - Re: IFR panels (Rad Z) 3. 02:45 PM - Re: IFR panels (David Lee) 4. 06:35 PM - Re: Re: IFR panels (Bill Repucci) 5. 06:35 PM - Glare Shield covering (Bill Repucci) 6. 06:51 PM - Re: Glare Shield covering (Bret Smith) 7. 07:00 PM - Re: Re: IFR panels (Larry Bowen) 8. 07:08 PM - Re: Re: IFR panels (bburril) 9. 07:14 PM - Re: Re: IFR panels () 10. 07:23 PM - Re: Re: IFR panels (bburril) 11. 07:45 PM - Re: IFR panels (David Lee) 12. 08:09 PM - Re: Glare Shield covering (Bill Repucci) ________________________________ Message 1 ________________________________ _____ Subject: RVSouthEast-List: IFR panels From: "David Lee" <odlee(at)bellsouth.net> What do people use for an IFR panel, mostly glass with some electric back-up instruments. Under consideration are the new ACS 3500 or dual Dynon large screens. What would you have with them for IFR? I am avoiding vac instruments and tryi ng to avoid an IFR gps (Garmin 430). Costs and weight are a factor. This be on a RV 7 under construction. Additional ideas are welcome. All of my previous flying has been with "old fa shioned" instruments plus an ifr gps (430 or -89B). Suggestions and opinions please. Thanks, David Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=79632#79632 ________________________________ Message 2 ________________________________ _____ From: Rad Z <microsmurfer(at)yahoo.com> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: IFR panels David, I wouldn't overlook a 2-screen GRT system. Feature-wise, it seems to be ahead of Dynon or AFS. Yes, it's lacking (relatively speaking) in the looks depart ment, but it makes up for it with features that neither of the other two have (gran ted, details on what AFS is capable of are still pretty sketchy). Backup -- a typical trio (ASI, electric AI and altimeter) would probably work out ok. Additional point -- while I'm no authority on the subject, it's hard to pictu re an IFR bird today w/o an IFR/approach approved GPS. Just MHO. Radomir -7A Panel ----- Original Message ---- From: David Lee <odlee(at)bellsouth.net> Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2006 4:19:04 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: IFR panels What do people use for an IFR panel, mostly glass with some electric back-up instruments. Under consideration are the new ACS 3500 or dual Dynon large screens. What would you have with them for IFR? I am avoiding vac instruments and tryi ng to avoid an IFR gps (Garmin 430). Costs and weight are a factor. This be on a RV 7 under construction. Additional ideas are welcome. All of my previous flying has been with "old fa shioned" instruments plus an ifr gps (430 or -89B). Suggestions and opinions please. Thanks, David Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=79632#79632 ________________________________ Message 3 ________________________________ _____ Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Re: IFR panels From: "David Lee" <odlee(at)bellsouth.net> Bill & Radomir, I've been spending an inordinate amount of time looking.! I am planning the back-up instruments pretty much as outlined by Radomir, but having trouble determining whether to put in an IFR gps in. I flew a lot of IFR in the Baron and Bonanza with and without an IFR approved gps.(Used a Garmin Pilot III). It's no problem enroute. I had dual glideslopes, RMI, NDB, etc. I only shot 4-6 actual gps approaches(they are easy), rest ILS. Seems as if a 496 is great value. I am basically cheap and also trying to determine how much IFR will actually be flown in the RV. Totally different profile than my earlier aircraft. Wonder h ow many of the "older" military and airline flyers equip their planes? Thanks for the response. I hope to see your projects soon. David Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=79653#79653 ________________________________ Message 4 ________________________________ _____ From: "Bill Repucci" <bill(at)repucci.com> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Re: IFR panels David, I am a simple VFR type (My last plane, 1941 BC-12/65, did not even have an electrical system.) and when I talk to RV builder/owners who have equipped their planes with IFR panels I am always surprised to find that they rarely use it. To the point where many of them have told me that next time they will leave it VFR only. Maybe some of the others on the list can add there $.02 worth. Having said that, I am reserving the right to upgrade my panel in the future, if I ever get the IFR bug. As for the Garmin 496, I installed an AirGizmo (http://www.airgizmos.com/) in my panel with the angle adapter so it will be slanted towards me. Great device and it has let me build up my panel without actually owning a GPS. In January I hope the price comes down a notch so I can purchase a 496. Pictures are at the bottom of this page: http://www.repucci.com/bill/instruments.html Bill -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Lee Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 5:45 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Re: IFR panels --> Bill & Radomir, I've been spending an inordinate amount of time looking.! I am planning the back-up instruments pretty much as outlined by Radomir, but having trouble determining whether to put in an IFR gps in. I flew a lot of IFR in the Baron and Bonanza with and without an IFR approved gps.(Used a Garmin Pilot III). It's no problem enroute. I had dual glideslopes, RMI, NDB, etc. I only shot 4-6 actual gps approaches(they are easy), rest ILS. Seems as if a 496 is great value. I am basically cheap and also trying to determine how much IFR will actually be flown in the RV. Totally different profile than my earlier aircraft. Wonder how many of the "older" military and airline flyers equip their planes? Thanks for the response. I hope to see your projects soon. David Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=79653#79653 ________________________________ Message 5 ________________________________ _____ From: "Bill Repucci" <bill(at)repucci.com> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Glare Shield covering On the VAF some guy posted a picture of his glare shield. What made it unique was that he used stripes of black Velcro loops to cover it, giving him a place to stick pencils, GPS, and anything else he could think of. Thinking this was a great idea, I was able to locate some that was wide enough to cover the entire glare shield of my RV-9 with one piece. The only problem was that I had to buy an minimum size of 60" by five yards. Yep, I'll have a little bit more than I can use. If anyone of you would like to cover your glare shield with a loop section of Velcro, let me know, I'm sure we can work a deal. I'm asking $20 for an RV-8 sized piece, $25 for the -6, 7, & 9 and $30 for an RV-10. I realize that in keeping with RV-10 pricing, I should really charge something like $150 but I will keep it reasonable. The loop fabric I have ordered does not have adhesive on it but I have had good luck with proseal and my favorite, Goop Automotive Trim Adhesive. Send me an e-mail (bill(at)repucci.com) off list, if you are interested. Bill PS. Sorry, about the ad on the list. I'm just trying to recover my costs and help out other builders. ________________________________ Message 6 ________________________________ _____ From: "Bret Smith" <smithhb(at)tds.net> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Glare Shield covering Bill, why not cover your seats with it and you won't need seatbelts? Heck, look at the weight savings too. Bret Smith RV-9A (91314) Mineral Bluff, GA www.FlightInnovations.com _____ From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Repucci Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 9:26 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Glare Shield covering On the VAF some guy posted a picture of his glare shield. What made it unique was that he used stripes of black Velcro loops to cover it, giving him a place to stick pencils, GPS, and anything else he could think of. Thinking this was a great idea, I was able to locate some that was wide enough to cover the entire glare shield of my RV-9 with one piece. The only problem was that I had to buy an minimum size of 60" by five yards. Yep, I'll have a little bit more than I can use. If anyone of you would like to cover your glare shield with a loop section of Velcro, let me know, I'm sure we can work a deal. I'm asking $20 for an RV-8 sized piece, $25 for the -6, 7, & 9 and $30 for an RV-10. I realize that in keeping with RV-10 pricing, I should really charge something like $150 but I will keep it reasonable. The loop fabric I have ordered does not have adhesive on it but I have had good luck with proseal and my favorite, Goop Automotive Trim Adhesive. Send me an e-mail (bill(at)repucci.com) off list, if you are interested. Bill PS. Sorry, about the ad on the list. I'm just trying to recover my costs and help out other builders. ________________________________ Message 7 ________________________________ _____ From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Re: IFR panels For me, the perspective really changed when I move from building a panel to flying behind it. I have backups in my RV-8 that I will not bother to have in the 7 -- as the panel page on a Garmin x96 is good enough. And, the 'glass' the x96 is backing up is super reliable & many have internal battery backups. Maybe the answer is keep it simple, but plan for expansion and flexibility. Mostly VFR thoughts, but maybe some of it applies to your question... - Larry Bowen Larry(at)BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Repucci [mailto:bill(at)repucci.com] > Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 9:26 PM > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Re: IFR panels > > --> > > David, > > I am a simple VFR type (My last plane, 1941 BC-12/65, did not > even have an electrical system.) and when I talk to RV > builder/owners who have equipped their planes with IFR panels > I am always surprised to find that they rarely use it. To > the point where many of them have told me that next time they > will leave it VFR only. > > Maybe some of the others on the list can add there $.02 worth. > > Having said that, I am reserving the right to upgrade my > panel in the future, if I ever get the IFR bug. > > As for the Garmin 496, I installed an AirGizmo > (http://www.airgizmos.com/) in my panel with the angle > adapter so it will be slanted towards me. Great device and > it has let me build up my panel without actually owning a > GPS. In January I hope the price comes down a notch so I can > purchase a 496. Pictures are at the bottom of this page: > http://www.repucci.com/bill/instruments.html > > Bill > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On > Behalf Of David Lee > Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 5:45 PM > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Re: IFR panels > > > --> > > Bill & Radomir, > > I've been spending an inordinate amount of time looking.! I > am planning the back-up instruments pretty much as outlined > by Radomir, but having trouble determining whether to put in > an IFR gps in. I flew a lot of IFR in the Baron and Bonanza > with and without an IFR approved gps.(Used a Garmin Pilot > III). It's no problem enroute. I had dual glideslopes, RMI, > NDB, etc. I only shot 4-6 actual gps approaches(they are > easy), rest ILS. Seems as if a 496 is great value. > > I am basically cheap and also trying to determine how much > IFR will actually be flown in the RV. Totally different > profile than my earlier aircraft. Wonder how many of the > "older" military and airline flyers equip their planes? > > Thanks for the response. I hope to see your projects soon. > > David > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=79653#79653 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Photoshare, and much much more: > > > ________________________________ Message 8 ________________________________ _____ From: "bburril" <bburril(at)carolina.rr.com> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: IFR panels Bill just get a 396 it does everything that a 496 does just not as fast,and for a lot less. Ben ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Repucci" <bill(at)repucci.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 9:26 PM Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Re: IFR panels > > David, > > I am a simple VFR type (My last plane, 1941 BC-12/65, did not even have > an electrical system.) and when I talk to RV builder/owners who have > equipped their planes with IFR panels I am always surprised to find that > they rarely use it. To the point where many of them have told me that > next time they will leave it VFR only. > > Maybe some of the others on the list can add there $.02 worth. > > Having said that, I am reserving the right to upgrade my panel in the > future, if I ever get the IFR bug. > > As for the Garmin 496, I installed an AirGizmo > (http://www.airgizmos.com/) in my panel with the angle adapter so it > will be slanted towards me. Great device and it has let me build up my > panel without actually owning a GPS. In January I hope the price comes > down a notch so I can purchase a 496. Pictures are at the bottom of > this page: http://www.repucci.com/bill/instruments.html > > Bill > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of David > Lee > Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 5:45 PM > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Re: IFR panels > > > --> > > Bill & Radomir, > > I've been spending an inordinate amount of time looking.! I am planning > the back-up instruments pretty much as outlined by Radomir, but having > trouble determining whether to put in an IFR gps in. I flew a lot of IFR > in the Baron and Bonanza with and without an IFR approved gps.(Used a > Garmin Pilot III). It's no problem enroute. I had dual glideslopes, RMI, > NDB, etc. I only shot 4-6 actual gps approaches(they are easy), rest > ILS. Seems as if a 496 is great value. > > I am basically cheap and also trying to determine how much IFR will > actually be flown in the RV. Totally different profile than my earlier > aircraft. Wonder how many of the "older" military and airline flyers > equip their planes? > > Thanks for the response. I hope to see your projects soon. > > David > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=79653#79653 > > > ________________________________ Message 9 ________________________________ _____ From: <ronschreck(at)windstream.net> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: IFR panels David, I about fell over when you mentioned the "older military and airline flyers". Are you talking to me? I have dual screen GRT EFIS with internal GPS and a Garmin 296, Trio aiutopil ot with altitude hold, SL-30 nav/com, 327 transponder and PSE audio panel with m arker beacon. I have an altimeter and airspeed indicator for backup instruments. I probably won't have too many occasions to fly IFR in the RV-8, but if there is no chance of thunderstorms or iceing, why not. The GPS is great for enrou te nav (I like the 296 much more than the GRT internal) and I can use the SL-30 for ILS or VOR approaches. An autopilot is a "must have" for IFR in the RV IMHO and also serves as a backup turn and bank indicator, so I don't feel the need to have a backup attitude indicator. And I certainly won't put anyth ing in my panel that has a mecanical (electric or vacuum) gyro that will get abus ed every time I do acro. Ron Schreck RV-8 "Miss Izzy" Gold Hill Airpark, NC > > From: "David Lee" <odlee(at)bellsouth.net> > Date: 2006/12/06 Wed PM 05:44:56 EST > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Re: IFR panels > > > Bill & Radomir, > > I've been spending an inordinate amount of time looking.! I am planning the back-up instruments pretty much as outlined by Radomir, but having trouble de termining whether to put in an IFR gps in. I flew a lot of IFR in the Baron and Bonanza with and without an IFR approved gps.(Used a Garmin Pilot III). It's no problem enroute. I had dual glideslopes, RMI, NDB, etc. I only shot 4-6 ac tual gps approaches(they are easy), rest ILS. Seems as if a 496 is great value. > > I am basically cheap and also trying to determine how much IFR will actually be flown in the RV. Totally different profile than my earlier aircraft. Wonder how many of the "older" military and airline flyers equip their planes? > > Thanks for the response. I hope to see your projects soon. > > David > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=79653#79653 > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 10 _______________________________ _____ From: "bburril" <bburril(at)carolina.rr.com> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: IFR panels He said older not ancient! ----- Original Message ----- From: <ronschreck(at)windstream.net> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 10:14 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: IFR panels > > David, > > I about fell over when you mentioned the "older military and airline > flyers". Are you talking to me? > I have dual screen GRT EFIS with internal GPS and a Garmin 296, Trio > aiutopilot with altitude hold, SL-30 nav/com, 327 transponder and PSE > audio panel with marker beacon. I have an altimeter and airspeed > indicator for backup instruments. I probably won't have too many > occasions to fly IFR in the RV-8, but if there is no chance of > thunderstorms or iceing, why not. The GPS is great for enroute nav (I > like the 296 much more than the GRT internal) and I can use the SL-30 for > ILS or VOR approaches. An autopilot is a "must have" for IFR in the RV > IMHO and also serves as a backup turn and bank indicator, so I don't feel > the need to have a backup attitude indicator. And I certainly won't put > anything in my panel that has a mecanical (electric or vacuum) gyro that > will get abused every time I do acro. > > Ron Schreck > RV-8 "Miss Izzy" > Gold Hill Airpark, NC > > >> >> From: "David Lee" <odlee(at)bellsouth.net> >> Date: 2006/12/06 Wed PM 05:44:56 EST >> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com >> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Re: IFR panels >> >> >> Bill & Radomir, >> >> I've been spending an inordinate amount of time looking.! I am planning >> the back-up instruments pretty much as outlined by Radomir, but having >> trouble determining whether to put in an IFR gps in. I flew a lot of IFR >> in the Baron and Bonanza with and without an IFR approved gps.(Used a >> Garmin Pilot III). It's no problem enroute. I had dual glideslopes, RMI, >> NDB, etc. I only shot 4-6 actual gps approaches(they are easy), rest ILS. >> Seems as if a 496 is great value. >> >> I am basically cheap and also trying to determine how much IFR will >> actually be flown in the RV. Totally different profile than my earlier >> aircraft. Wonder how many of the "older" military and airline flyers >> equip their planes? >> >> Thanks for the response. I hope to see your projects soon. >> >> David >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=79653#79653 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 11 _______________________________ _____ Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Re: IFR panels From: "David Lee" <odlee(at)bellsouth.net> Thanks guys, Ron, I did not mention any names!! As for the rest the opinions are varied as I suspected they might be. If you don't fly IFR you don't need to spend all the money and time. The planes are fast, responsive, light, economical, etc...all the reason I'm building. I am just use to going when the weather is not cavu, although I may change my mind after flying the RV a bit (whenever that is going to be). Still pondering. David Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=79722#79722 ________________________________ Message 12 _______________________________ _____ From: "Bill Repucci" <bill(at)repucci.com> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Glare Shield covering Good idea! I have also suggested this to a friend for his two year-old. I figure he can put it on his kid's diaper and the 2. That way the kid can't make a run for it when his wife is shopping. ;) Heck, you could also use the stuff to hang the kid on the wall why working on your plane. It would keep him out of trouble and at eye level so he could learn as you rivet. Bill -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bret Smith Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 9:51 PM Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Glare Shield covering Bill, why not cover your seats with it and you won't need seatbelts? Heck, look at the weight savings too. Bret Smith RV-9A (91314) Mineral Bluff, GA www.FlightInnovations.com _____ From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Repucci Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 9:26 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Glare Shield covering On the VAF some guy posted a picture of his glare shield. What made it unique was that he used stripes of black Velcro loops to cover it, giving him a place to stick pencils, GPS, and anything else he could think of. Thinking this was a great idea, I was able to locate some that was wide enough to cover the entire glare shield of my RV-9 with one piece. The only problem was that I had to buy an minimum size of 60" by five yards. Yep, I'll have a little bit more than I can use. If anyone of you would like to cover your glare shield with a loop section of Velcro, let me know, I'm sure we can work a deal. I'm asking $20 for an RV-8 sized piece, $25 for the -6, 7, & 9 and $30 for an RV-10. I realize that in keeping with RV-10 pricing, I should really charge something like $150 but I will keep it reasonable. The loop fabric I have ordered does not have adhesive on it but I have had good luck with proseal and my favorite, Goop Automotive Trim Adhesive. Send me an e-mail (bill(at)repucci.com) off list, if you are interested. Bill PS. Sorry, about the ad on the list. 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From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Flight Planning Programs
Date: Dec 07, 2006
AOPA's Free! Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: Dale Ensing To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 8:27 AM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Flight Planning Programs Hello SERV'ers. Would you mind participating in a simple little survey? What Flight Planning program do you use? Or, which is your favorite? How much do you pay for it? Dale Ensing ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Bill Repucci" <bill(at)repucci.com>
Subject: Re: IFR panels
Date: Dec 07, 2006
Len, I sure wish I did have some inside info but Garmin is very tight with the pricing. I do know a guy who's son works there and tried to get some info that way but no joy. :( >From what I have been reading, Garmin holds all of their dealers to a "Advertised Suggested Retail Price" but if you call the various dealers, they will cut that price. About the lowest I have heard is around $2,400 but I don't know if that is true or forum BS. Either way, in January I am going to start calling around to see what I can work up. If some of are SERIOUS about buying a 496 let me know and I'll see if I can work a group buy. Who knows, we might get lucky. To make this clear, all I want to know is if you are SERIOUS about buying a 496. When I go the vendors (and possibly Garmin) I want hard orders, not "maybe orders". I will NOT take any action until after the first of the year. As for paying for the thing, I will try to work it where each of you gives the supplier a credit card number so I don't have to deal with payment. However, to get the best price, they may only wish to deal with one person, if that is the case, I will let you know and we can take it from there. Bill -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lenleg(at)aol.com Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 8:17 AM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: IFR panels Bill: Do you have some type of inside info that prices could be coming down in January ???? Fingers crossed ... Len In a message dated 12/6/2006 9:37:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, bill(at)repucci.com writes: David, I am a simple VFR type (My last plane, 1941 BC-12/65, did not even have an electrical system.) and when I talk to RV builder/owners who have equipped their planes with IFR panels I am always surprised to find that they rarely use it. To the point where many of them have told me that next time they will leave it VFR only. Maybe some of the others on the list can add there $.02 worth. Having said that, I am reserving the right to upgrade my panel in the future, if I ever get the IFR bug. As for the Garmin 496, I installed an AirGizmo (http://www.airgizmos.com/) in my panel with the angle adapter so it will be slanted towards me. Great device and it has let me build up my panel without actually owning a GPS. In January I hope the price comes down a notch so I can purchase a 496. Pictures are at the bottom of this page: http://www.repucci.com/bill/instruments.html Bill -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Lee Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 5:45 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Re: IFR panels --> Bill & Radomir, I've been spending an inordinate amount of time looking.! I am planning the back-up instruments pretty much as outlined by Radomir, but having trouble determining whether to put in an IFR gps in. I flew a lot of IFR in the Baron and Bonanza with and without an IFR approved gps.(Used a Garmin Pilot III). It's no problem enroute. I had dual glideslopes, RMI, NDB, etc. I only shot 4-6 actual gps approaches(they are easy), rest ILS. Seems as if a 496 is great value. I am basically cheap and also trying to determine how much IFR will actually be flown in the RV. Totally different profile than my earlier aircraft. Wonder how many of the "older" military and airline flyers equip their planes? Thanks for the response. I hope to see your projects soon. David Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=79653#79653 sp; (And Get Some AWESOME FREE find fts ic you for nbsp; -Matt Dralle, List Use lities Day --> ==== ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Bill Schlatterer" <billschlatterer(at)sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Flight Planning Programs
Date: Dec 07, 2006
www.FltPlan.com files automatically, great weather, holds several aircraft, gives nav plan, charts, approaches, fuel consumption, etc. All the charter guys around here use it and it's free. Bill S 7a engine _____ From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dale Ensing Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 7:27 AM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Flight Planning Programs Hello SERV'ers. Would you mind participating in a simple little survey? What Flight Planning program do you use? Or, which is your favorite? How much do you pay for it? Dale Ensing ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "tadsargent" <tadsargent(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Flight Planning Programs
Date: Dec 07, 2006
EAA or AOPA for me. Tad ----- Original Message ----- From: Dale Ensing To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 8:27 AM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Flight Planning Programs Hello SERV'ers. Would you mind participating in a simple little survey? What Flight Planning program do you use? Or, which is your favorite? How much do you pay for it? Dale Ensing ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 08, 2006
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Matronics Fund Raiser - 2006 List of Contributors
Dear Listers, I would like to thank everyone that made a Contribution in support of the Lists this year! It was really nice to hear all great comments people had regarding the Lists! As I have said many times before, running these Lists is a labor of love. Your generosity during the List Fund Raiser only underscores the great sentiments people have made regarding the Lists. If you haven't yet made a Contribution in support of this year's Fund Raiser please feel free to do so. The nice List gifts will be available on the site for just a little while longer, so hurry and make your Contribution and get your great gift. Once again, the URL for the Contribution web site is: http://www.matronics.com/contribution I would like to thank Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore ( http://www.buildersbooks.com ), Paul Besing of Aeroware Enterprises ( http://www.kitlog.com ), Jon Croke of Homebuilt HELP ( http://www.homebuilthelp.com ) and Bob Nuckolls of AeroElectric ( http://www.aeroelectric.com ) for their extremely generous support during this year's Fund Raiser through the contribution of merchandise. These are great guys that support the aviation industry and I encourage each and every Lister to have a look at their products. Thank you Andy, Paul, Jon and Bob!! Your support is very much appreciated! And finally, below you will find a web link to the 2006 List of Contributors current as of 12/7/06! Have a look at this list of names as these are the people that make all of these List services possible! I can't thank each of you enough for your support and great feedback during this year's Fund Raiser! THANK YOU! http://www.matronics.com/loc/2006.html I will be shipping out all of the gifts in the next few weeks and hope to have everything out by the end of the month. In most cases, gifts will be shipped via US Postal Service. Kitlog Pro serial numbers should go out via email this weekend. Once again, thank you for making this year's List Fund Raiser successful! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "bburril" <bburril(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: IFR panels
Date: Dec 08, 2006
MessageBill,why don,t you go with the 396.The pricing is very good,it does everything that the 496 does.You problably will not out grow it ether. Ben ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Repucci To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 10:24 PM Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Re: IFR panels Len, I sure wish I did have some inside info but Garmin is very tight with the pricing. I do know a guy who's son works there and tried to get some info that way but no joy. :( From what I have been reading, Garmin holds all of their dealers to a "Advertised Suggested Retail Price" but if you call the various dealers, they will cut that price. About the lowest I have heard is around $2,400 but I don't know if that is true or forum BS. Either way, in January I am going to start calling around to see what I can work up. If some of are SERIOUS about buying a 496 let me know and I'll see if I can work a group buy. Who knows, we might get lucky. To make this clear, all I want to know is if you are SERIOUS about buying a 496. When I go the vendors (and possibly Garmin) I want hard orders, not "maybe orders". I will NOT take any action until after the first of the year. As for paying for the thing, I will try to work it where each of you gives the supplier a credit card number so I don't have to deal with payment. However, to get the best price, they may only wish to deal with one person, if that is the case, I will let you know and we can take it from there. Bill -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lenleg(at)aol.com Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 8:17 AM To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: IFR panels Bill: Do you have some type of inside info that prices could be coming down in January ???? Fingers crossed ... Len In a message dated 12/6/2006 9:37:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, bill(at)repucci.com writes: David, I am a simple VFR type (My last plane, 1941 BC-12/65, did not even have an electrical system.) and when I talk to RV builder/owners who have equipped their planes with IFR panels I am always surprised to find that they rarely use it. To the point where many of them have told me that next time they will leave it VFR only. Maybe some of the others on the list can add there $.02 worth. Having said that, I am reserving the right to upgrade my panel in the future, if I ever get the IFR bug. As for the Garmin 496, I installed an AirGizmo (http://www.airgizmos.com/) in my panel with the angle adapter so it will be slanted towards me. Great device and it has let me build up my panel without actually owning a GPS. In January I hope the price comes down a notch so I can purchase a 496. Pictures are at the bottom of this page: http://www.repucci.com/bill/instruments.html Bill -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Lee Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 5:45 PM To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Re: IFR panels --> Bill & Radomir, I've been spending an inordinate amount of time looking.! I am planning the back-up instruments pretty much as outlined by Radomir, but having trouble determining whether to put in an IFR gps in. I flew a lot of IFR in the Baron and Bonanza with and without an IFR approved gps.(Used a Garmin Pilot III). It's no problem enroute. I had dual glideslopes, RMI, NDB, etc. I only shot 4-6 actual gps approaches(they are easy), rest ILS. Seems as if a 496 is great value. I am basically cheap and also trying to determine how much IFR will actually be flown in the RV. Totally different profile than my earlier aircraft. Wonder how many of the "older" military and airline flyers equip their planes? Thanks for the response. I hope to see your projects soon. David Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=79653#79653 sp; (And Get Some AWESOME FREE find fts ic you for nbsp; -Matt Dralle, List Use lities Day --> ==== href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com href="http://www.kitlog.com">www.kitlog.com href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.m atronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Lenleg(at)aol.com
Date: Dec 08, 2006
Subject: Randy Pinkston
Randy: Need a UPS address to send your SERV merchandise. Len ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Randy Utsey" <djdist(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Randy Pinkston
Date: Dec 08, 2006
Hi Len, Steve got it for me last week at EQY / 2 T-shirts and a hat & a golf shirt Thanks for ordering it, Randy Utsey D.J. Distributing Co. 1429 Bryant St. Charlotte, NC 28208 800-585-4126 djdist(at)bellsouth.net www.djdist.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Lenleg(at)aol.com To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 11:00 AM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Randy Pinkston Randy: Need a UPS address to send your SERV merchandise. Len ________________________________________________________________________________
From: <pinkston(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Randy Pinkston
Date: Dec 08, 2006
pinkstons lawnmower & equip. inc. 626 hwy 24-27 west midland nc 28107 or i will meet you somewhere randy pinkston 704-888-2888 rv7a ----- Original Message ----- From: Lenleg(at)aol.com To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 11:00 AM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Randy Pinkston Randy: Need a UPS address to send your SERV merchandise. Len ________________________________________________________________________________
From: <pinkston(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Randy Pinkston
Date: Dec 08, 2006
i will be out flying sat and sun call 704-438-1222 if you are out and maybe i can meet you rp ----- Original Message ----- From: Lenleg(at)aol.com To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 11:00 AM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Randy Pinkston Randy: Need a UPS address to send your SERV merchandise. Len ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Bill Repucci" <bill(at)repucci.com>
Subject: Re: IFR panels
Date: Dec 09, 2006
Ben, I hope to get a deal on the 496 and bring it down close to the list price of the 396 and I look at buying these things like buying a new PC. I purchase the biggest unit I can for the money and hope it isn't outdated until it dies. You are right, for a VFR pilot like myself, I'm not sure the 496 offers that much over the 396. Bill -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of bburril Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 8:39 AM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: IFR panels Bill,why don,t you go with the 396.The pricing is very good,it does everything that the 496 does.You problably will not out grow it ether. Ben ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Repucci <mailto:bill(at)repucci.com> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 10:24 PM Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Re: IFR panels Len, I sure wish I did have some inside info but Garmin is very tight with the pricing. I do know a guy who's son works there and tried to get some info that way but no joy. :( >From what I have been reading, Garmin holds all of their dealers to a "Advertised Suggested Retail Price" but if you call the various dealers, they will cut that price. About the lowest I have heard is around $2,400 but I don't know if that is true or forum BS. Either way, in January I am going to start calling around to see what I can work up. If some of are SERIOUS about buying a 496 let me know and I'll see if I can work a group buy. Who knows, we might get lucky. To make this clear, all I want to know is if you are SERIOUS about buying a 496. When I go the vendors (and possibly Garmin) I want hard orders, not "maybe orders". I will NOT take any action until after the first of the year. As for paying for the thing, I will try to work it where each of you gives the supplier a credit card number so I don't have to deal with payment. However, to get the best price, they may only wish to deal with one person, if that is the case, I will let you know and we can take it from there. Bill -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lenleg(at)aol.com Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 8:17 AM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: IFR panels Bill: Do you have some type of inside info that prices could be coming down in January ???? Fingers crossed ... Len In a message dated 12/6/2006 9:37:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, bill(at)repucci.com writes: David, I am a simple VFR type (My last plane, 1941 BC-12/65, did not even have an electrical system.) and when I talk to RV builder/owners who have equipped their planes with IFR panels I am always surprised to find that they rarely use it. To the point where many of them have told me that next time they will leave it VFR only. Maybe some of the others on the list can add there $.02 worth. Having said that, I am reserving the right to upgrade my panel in the future, if I ever get the IFR bug. As for the Garmin 496, I installed an AirGizmo (http://www.airgizmos.com/) in my panel with the angle adapter so it will be slanted towards me. Great device and it has let me build up my panel without actually owning a GPS. In January I hope the price comes down a notch so I can purchase a 496. Pictures are at the bottom of this page: http://www.repucci.com/bill/instruments.html Bill -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Lee Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 5:45 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Re: IFR panels --> Bill & Radomir, I've been spending an inordinate amount of time looking.! I am planning the back-up instruments pretty much as outlined by Radomir, but having trouble determining whether to put in an IFR gps in. I flew a lot of IFR in the Baron and Bonanza with and without an IFR approved gps.(Used a Garmin Pilot III). It's no problem enroute. I had dual glideslopes, RMI, NDB, etc. I only shot 4-6 actual gps approaches(they are easy), rest ILS. Seems as if a 496 is great value. I am basically cheap and also trying to determine how much IFR will actually be flown in the RV. Totally different profile than my earlier aircraft. Wonder how many of the "older" military and airline flyers equip their planes? Thanks for the response. I hope to see your projects soon. 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From: <ronschreck(at)windstream.net>
Subject: Re: Flight Planning Programs
Date: Dec 07, 2006
Golden Eagle is great for planning. I use Weathermeister for weather. Smokey > > From: "Dale Ensing" <densing(at)carolina.rr.com> > Date: 2006/12/07 Thu AM 08:27:00 EST > To: > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Flight Planning Programs > > Hello SERV'ers. > > Would you mind participating in a simple little survey? > > What Flight Planning program do you use? Or, which is your favorite? > > How much do you pay for it? > > Dale Ensing > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Lenleg(at)aol.com
Date: Dec 09, 2006
Subject: Re: Randy Pinkston
Sent it our by UPS on Friday. Len In a message dated 12/8/2006 10:28:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, pinkston(at)carolina.rr.com writes: i will be out flying sat and sun call 704-438-1222 if you are out and maybe i can meet you rp ----- Original Message ----- From: _Lenleg(at)aol.com_ (mailto:Lenleg(at)aol.com) Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 11:00 AM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Randy Pinkston Randy: Need a UPS address to send your SERV merchandise. Len ________________________________________________________________________________
From: <pinkston(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Randy Pinkston
Date: Dec 09, 2006
thanks rp ----- Original Message ----- From: Lenleg(at)aol.com To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 9:28 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Randy Pinkston Sent it our by UPS on Friday. Len In a message dated 12/8/2006 10:28:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, pinkston(at)carolina.rr.com writes: i will be out flying sat and sun call 704-438-1222 if you are out and maybe i can meet you rp ----- Original Message ----- From: Lenleg(at)aol.com To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 11:00 AM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Randy Pinkston Randy: Need a UPS address to send your SERV merchandise. Len ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Radomir Zaric" <vitez(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Mattituck report
Date: Dec 11, 2006
Tad and I got back from Mattituck yesterday and it was a great weekend. We went for the engine assembly workshop, similar/same to the ones they normally do at Sun'n'Fun and Oshkosh. The trip up can be summarized in only a few words: COLD, beautiful weather, headwinds, and windy down low. We stopped at Millville, NJ for lunch and gas and parked right next to a Gulfstream IV on a nearly empty ramp. It was a good place to stop with 2 restaurants on field and reasonable gas price. The ride up was very, very smooth at altitude (7,500) but winds were pretty strong down low (18G28). One note about the first photo - it shows us flying on top - but that lasted less than 20 miles, just north of PXT VOR and it all cleared up before we reached Dover, DE. Flying over JFK and seeing Manhattan was one of the highlights. Visibility was great! The workshop was extremely valuable. Mahlon, John, and Keith were great hosts and answered a bunch of questions we had. The assembly started around 9 and we were done by 3:30. Then we did a tour of a vintage car collection that was just breathtaking. Several cars there were "the only one remaining in the world." We even got to talk to Parker -- an 84-year-old owner of the collection. He loves this stuff and loves talking about it. On the way back we just reversed the route and stopped at MIV again. This time, JFK was even busier and we got to see a British Airways B-747 passing a few miles off our left wing at same altitude. And of course, as the Friday front passed, we got treated to more headwind on the way back. We did expect it though. Luckily it was a lot warmer on Sunday. Putting in a music input into the intercom was a great idea. I put a few photos on my site: http://www.vitez.net/mattituck/ Radomir -7A Panel ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 11, 2006
From: bill crothers <bill28104(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Mattituck report
wonderful pix, glad the trip went well and you learned a lot...now BACK TO WORK. we need a scheduled date foe 1st flt...RR --- Radomir Zaric wrote: > Tad and I got back from Mattituck yesterday and it > was a great weekend. We > went for the engine assembly workshop, similar/same > to the ones they > normally do at Sun'n'Fun and Oshkosh. > > > > The trip up can be summarized in only a few words: > COLD, beautiful weather, > headwinds, and windy down low. We stopped at > Millville, NJ for lunch and > gas and parked right next to a Gulfstream IV on a > nearly empty ramp. It was > a good place to stop with 2 restaurants on field and > reasonable gas price. > The ride up was very, very smooth at altitude > (7,500) but winds were pretty > strong down low (18G28). One note about the first > photo - it shows us > flying on top - but that lasted less than 20 miles, > just north of PXT VOR > and it all cleared up before we reached Dover, DE. > > > > Flying over JFK and seeing Manhattan was one of the > highlights. Visibility > was great! > > > > > > The workshop was extremely valuable. Mahlon, John, > and Keith were great > hosts and answered a bunch of questions we had. The > assembly started around > 9 and we were done by 3:30. Then we did a tour of a > vintage car collection > that was just breathtaking. Several cars there were > "the only one remaining > in the world." We even got to talk to Parker -- an > 84-year-old owner of > the collection. He loves this stuff and loves > talking about it. > > > > On the way back we just reversed the route and > stopped at MIV again. This > time, JFK was even busier and we got to see a > British Airways B-747 passing > a few miles off our left wing at same altitude. And > of course, as the > Friday front passed, we got treated to more headwind > on the way back. We > did expect it though. Luckily it was a lot warmer > on Sunday. Putting in a > music input into the intercom was a great idea. > > > > I put a few photos on my site: > > > > http://www.vitez.net/mattituck/ > > > > > > Radomir > > -7A Panel > > > > > > > > Want to start your own business? http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "bburril" <bburril(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Mattituck report
Date: Dec 11, 2006
Radomir,my brother and myself when to the frist one of those schools.We had a great time and it was very informative.Those people at mattituck are on top of there game.I don,t know if you know it or not but John is the youngest engine builder there.He has been buiilding engines for them for only 26yrs.When i first met Mahlon i thought he was the clean up guy. Ben ----- Original Message ----- From: Radomir Zaric To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 9:21 AM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Mattituck report Tad and I got back from Mattituck yesterday and it was a great weekend. We went for the engine assembly workshop, similar/same to the ones they normally do at Sun'n'Fun and Oshkosh. The trip up can be summarized in only a few words: COLD, beautiful weather, headwinds, and windy down low. We stopped at Millville, NJ for lunch and gas and parked right next to a Gulfstream IV on a nearly empty ramp. It was a good place to stop with 2 restaurants on field and reasonable gas price. The ride up was very, very smooth at altitude (7,500) but winds were pretty strong down low (18G28). One note about the first photo - it shows us flying on top - but that lasted less than 20 miles, just north of PXT VOR and it all cleared up before we reached Dover, DE. Flying over JFK and seeing Manhattan was one of the highlights. Visibility was great! The workshop was extremely valuable. Mahlon, John, and Keith were great hosts and answered a bunch of questions we had. The assembly started around 9 and we were done by 3:30. Then we did a tour of a vintage car collection that was just breathtaking. Several cars there were "the only one remaining in the world." We even got to talk to Parker -- an 84-year-old owner of the collection. He loves this stuff and loves talking about it. On the way back we just reversed the route and stopped at MIV again. This time, JFK was even busier and we got to see a British Airways B-747 passing a few miles off our left wing at same altitude. And of course, as the Friday front passed, we got treated to more headwind on the way back. We did expect it though. Luckily it was a lot warmer on Sunday. Putting in a music input into the intercom was a great idea. I put a few photos on my site: http://www.vitez.net/mattituck/ Radomir -7A Panel ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "bburril" <bburril(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Mattituck report
Date: Dec 11, 2006
By the way Radomir,just for future referance.When taking such nice pictures of two very nice looking airplanes maybe a good looking girl instead of that ordinary ramp hand. ----- Original Message ----- From: Radomir Zaric To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 9:21 AM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Mattituck report Tad and I got back from Mattituck yesterday and it was a great weekend. We went for the engine assembly workshop, similar/same to the ones they normally do at Sun'n'Fun and Oshkosh. The trip up can be summarized in only a few words: COLD, beautiful weather, headwinds, and windy down low. We stopped at Millville, NJ for lunch and gas and parked right next to a Gulfstream IV on a nearly empty ramp. It was a good place to stop with 2 restaurants on field and reasonable gas price. The ride up was very, very smooth at altitude (7,500) but winds were pretty strong down low (18G28). One note about the first photo - it shows us flying on top - but that lasted less than 20 miles, just north of PXT VOR and it all cleared up before we reached Dover, DE. Flying over JFK and seeing Manhattan was one of the highlights. Visibility was great! The workshop was extremely valuable. Mahlon, John, and Keith were great hosts and answered a bunch of questions we had. The assembly started around 9 and we were done by 3:30. Then we did a tour of a vintage car collection that was just breathtaking. Several cars there were "the only one remaining in the world." We even got to talk to Parker -- an 84-year-old owner of the collection. He loves this stuff and loves talking about it. On the way back we just reversed the route and stopped at MIV again. This time, JFK was even busier and we got to see a British Airways B-747 passing a few miles off our left wing at same altitude. And of course, as the Friday front passed, we got treated to more headwind on the way back. We did expect it though. Luckily it was a lot warmer on Sunday. Putting in a music input into the intercom was a great idea. I put a few photos on my site: http://www.vitez.net/mattituck/ Radomir -7A Panel ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Ravi Thakkar <ravithak(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: Mattituck report
Date: Dec 11, 2006
These are some beautiful pictures. Definitely a motivation to continue dri lling and deburring. From: vitez(at)carolina.rr.comTo: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.comSubject: RVSou thEast-List: Mattituck reportDate: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 09:21:01 -0500 Tad and I got back from Mattituck yesterday and it was a great weekend. We went for the engine assembly workshop, similar/same to the ones they norma lly do at Sun=92n=92Fun and Oshkosh. The trip up can be summarized in only a few words: COLD, beautiful weather , headwinds, and windy down low. We stopped at Millville, NJ for lunch and gas and parked right next to a Gulfstream IV on a nearly empty ramp. It w as a good place to stop with 2 restaurants on field and reasonable gas pric e. The ride up was very, very smooth at altitude (7,500) but winds were pr etty strong down low (18G28). One note about the first photo ' it shows us flying on top ' but that lasted less than 20 miles, just north of PXT VOR and it all cleared up before we reached Dover, DE. Flying over JFK and seeing Manhattan was one of the highlights. Visibility was great! The workshop was extremely valuable. Mahlon, John, and Keith were great ho sts and answered a bunch of questions we had. The assembly started around 9 and we were done by 3:30. Then we did a tour of a vintage car collection that was just breathtaking. Several cars there were =93the only one remai ning in the world.=94 We even got to talk to Parker -- an 84-year-old own er of the collection. He loves this stuff and loves talking about it. On the way back we just reversed the route and stopped at MIV again. This time, JFK was even busier and we got to see a British Airways B-747 passing a few miles off our left wing at same altitude. And of course, as the Fri day front passed, we got treated to more headwind on the way back. We did expect it though. Luckily it was a lot warmer on Sunday. Putting in a mus ic input into the intercom was a great idea. I put a few photos on my site: http://www.vitez.net/mattituck/ Radomir -7A Panel _________________________________________________________________ Search from any Web page with powerful protection. Get the FREE Windows Liv e Toolbar Today! http://get.live.com/toolbar/overview ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
Subject: Mattituck report
Date: Dec 11, 2006
Sounds great. What were your approx enroute times? - Larry Bowen Larry(at)BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com _____ From: Radomir Zaric [mailto:vitez(at)carolina.rr.com] Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 9:21 AM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Mattituck report Tad and I got back from Mattituck yesterday and it was a great weekend. We went for the engine assembly workshop, similar/same to the ones they normally do at Sun'n'Fun and Oshkosh. The trip up can be summarized in only a few words: COLD, beautiful weather, headwinds, and windy down low. We stopped at Millville, NJ for lunch and gas and parked right next to a Gulfstream IV on a nearly empty ramp. It was a good place to stop with 2 restaurants on field and reasonable gas price. The ride up was very, very smooth at altitude (7,500) but winds were pretty strong down low (18G28). One note about the first photo - it shows us flying on top - but that lasted less than 20 miles, just north of PXT VOR and it all cleared up before we reached Dover, DE. Flying over JFK and seeing Manhattan was one of the highlights. Visibility was great! The workshop was extremely valuable. Mahlon, John, and Keith were great hosts and answered a bunch of questions we had. The assembly started around 9 and we were done by 3:30. Then we did a tour of a vintage car collection that was just breathtaking. Several cars there were "the only one remaining in the world." We even got to talk to Parker -- an 84-year-old owner of the collection. He loves this stuff and loves talking about it. On the way back we just reversed the route and stopped at MIV again. This time, JFK was even busier and we got to see a British Airways B-747 passing a few miles off our left wing at same altitude. And of course, as the Friday front passed, we got treated to more headwind on the way back. We did expect it though. Luckily it was a lot warmer on Sunday. Putting in a music input into the intercom was a great idea. I put a few photos on my site: http://www.vitez.net/mattituck/ Radomir -7A Panel ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Randy Utsey" <djdist(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Mattituck report
Date: Dec 12, 2006
Hey Tad, Rad, did you get flight following over JFK or did you cross over above their class B? Randy Utsey D.J. Distributing Co. 1429 Bryant St. Charlotte, NC 28208 800-585-4126 djdist(at)bellsouth.net www.djdist.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Bowen To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 9:43 PM Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Mattituck report Sounds great. What were your approx enroute times? - Larry Bowen Larry(at)BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- From: Radomir Zaric [mailto:vitez(at)carolina.rr.com] Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 9:21 AM To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Mattituck report Tad and I got back from Mattituck yesterday and it was a great weekend. We went for the engine assembly workshop, similar/same to the ones they normally do at Sun'n'Fun and Oshkosh. The trip up can be summarized in only a few words: COLD, beautiful weather, headwinds, and windy down low. We stopped at Millville, NJ for lunch and gas and parked right next to a Gulfstream IV on a nearly empty ramp. It was a good place to stop with 2 restaurants on field and reasonable gas price. The ride up was very, very smooth at altitude (7,500) but winds were pretty strong down low (18G28). One note about the first photo - it shows us flying on top - but that lasted less than 20 miles, just north of PXT VOR and it all cleared up before we reached Dover, DE. Flying over JFK and seeing Manhattan was one of the highlights. Visibility was great! The workshop was extremely valuable. Mahlon, John, and Keith were great hosts and answered a bunch of questions we had. The assembly started around 9 and we were done by 3:30. Then we did a tour of a vintage car collection that was just breathtaking. Several cars there were "the only one remaining in the world." We even got to talk to Parker -- an 84-year-old owner of the collection. He loves this stuff and loves talking about it. On the way back we just reversed the route and stopped at MIV again. This time, JFK was even busier and we got to see a British Airways B-747 passing a few miles off our left wing at same altitude. And of course, as the Friday front passed, we got treated to more headwind on the way back. We did expect it though. Luckily it was a lot warmer on Sunday. Putting in a music input into the intercom was a great idea. I put a few photos on my site: http://www.vitez.net/mattituck/ Radomir -7A Panel href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com href="http://www.kitlog.com">www.kitlog.com href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.m atronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Mattituck report
From: "Scott Keadle" <Scott(at)Keadle.com>
Date: Dec 12, 2006
Ben, I suppose if the ramp hand was more your taste he wouldn't be "ordinary", is that it? I guess he's not as handsome as the boys down at the truck stop... [quote="bburril(at)carolina.rr.co"]By the way Radomir,just for future referance.When taking such nice pictures of two very nice looking airplanes maybe a good looking girl instead of that ordinary ramp hand. > --- Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=81088#81088 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Dale Ensing" <densing(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Flight Planning Programs
Date: Dec 12, 2006
SERVers Thank you to all the people who responded to my little survey on Flight Planning. It was enlightening as I was made aware of a couple of programs that I did not know about. I have been using the AOPA program for the last couple of years and DUATS before that. User Results: AOPA 8 reponses; EAA 2; fltplan.com 4; DUATS 2; Golden Eagle 1; Flightsoft 1. Weathermeister and weather.aero were each indicated by one person each as a weather source for info in addtion to the flight planning. Regards, Dale Ensing Hello SERV'ers. Would you mind participating in a simple little survey? What Flight Planning program do you use? Or, which is your favorite? How much do you pay for it? Dale Ensing ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 12, 2006
From: "Bert Murillo" <bertrv6(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Flight Planning Programs
On 12/7/06, David Davenport wrote: > > Two opions here. If you want the best pure flight planning program out > there, I like Flightsoft from RMS Technologies. (www.rmstek.com) It it a > subscription service that you can jump into at about three or four different > levels of service, so pick your price range. As far as freebies go, > www.fltplan.com has everybody else beat hands down. Look at both sites and > see which fits your needs best. > > David Davenport > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Dale Ensing > *To:* rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com > *Sent:* Thursday, December 07, 2006 8:27 AM > *Subject:* RVSouthEast-List: Flight Planning Programs > > > Hello SERV'ers. > > I HAVE USED DUATS' SINCE THEY STARTED... THEIR PROGRAMS AND CHARTS ARE THE BEST... THEIR FLIGHT PLANNING HAVE SO MANY THINGS TO CHOOSE FROM, THAT I HAVE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO USE ALL OF THEM... FOR A REGULAR FLIGHT PLANNING, OR IFR ETC.. YOU CANNOT GET A BETTER PROGRAM.... BUT THAT IS NOT ALL, WOULD YOU BELIEVE IS FREE/// THAT IS CORRECT IT IS FREE..... BUT SOME PEOPLE HAVE SO MUCH MONEY, THEY RATHER PAY UP TO $300 FOR THE SAME THING... DUATS' DESERVE OUR CONGRATULATIONS... THEY HAVE PROVE THAT BECAUSE IS AVIATION RELATED, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO PAY IN GOLD.... LIKE THE REST... I JUST GET SO MAD, WITH MOST COMPANIES, WHAT A RIF OFF THEY ARE... HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL, '' IF ONE CAN SAY SUCH THINGS THESE DAYS... WITH ALL THE WACOS LOOSE.... > Would you mind participating in a simple little survey? > > What Flight Planning program do you use? Or, which is your favorite? > > How much do you pay for it? > > Dale Ensing > > > * > > href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com > href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com > href="http://www.kitlog.com">www.kitlog.com > href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/chref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List > * > > * > > * > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "tadsargent" <tadsargent(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Mattituck report
Date: Dec 12, 2006
BOOya ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Keadle" <Scott(at)Keadle.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 3:25 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Re: Mattituck report > > Ben, I suppose if the ramp hand was more your taste he wouldn't be > "ordinary", is that it? I guess he's not as handsome as the boys down at > the truck stop... > > > [quote="bburril(at)carolina.rr.co"]By the way Radomir,just for future > referance.When taking such nice pictures of two very nice looking > airplanes maybe a good looking girl instead of that ordinary ramp hand. > >> --- > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=81088#81088 > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "tadsargent" <tadsargent(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Mattituck report
Date: Dec 12, 2006
We talked to no one and they did not want to talk to us. Wash center passed us off so many times to Pawtaxunt NAS and back I thought we were a ping pong ball. By the time we got to JFK we decided to just screw talking to anyone so long as we were at VFR alts. and on the airway. Planning through Rad was VOR to VOR right over the top. How's your 7 coming. BTW the heat is negligable at 12F So put your intake on the rear baffle if you want heat at 8500 Tad ----- Original Message ----- From: Randy Utsey To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 11:25 AM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Mattituck report Hey Tad, Rad, did you get flight following over JFK or did you cross over above their class B? Randy Utsey D.J. Distributing Co. 1429 Bryant St. Charlotte, NC 28208 800-585-4126 djdist(at)bellsouth.net www.djdist.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Bowen To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 9:43 PM Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Mattituck report Sounds great. What were your approx enroute times? - Larry Bowen Larry(at)BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - From: Radomir Zaric [mailto:vitez(at)carolina.rr.com] Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 9:21 AM To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Mattituck report Tad and I got back from Mattituck yesterday and it was a great weekend. We went for the engine assembly workshop, similar/same to the ones they normally do at Sun'n'Fun and Oshkosh. The trip up can be summarized in only a few words: COLD, beautiful weather, headwinds, and windy down low. We stopped at Millville, NJ for lunch and gas and parked right next to a Gulfstream IV on a nearly empty ramp. It was a good place to stop with 2 restaurants on field and reasonable gas price. The ride up was very, very smooth at altitude (7,500) but winds were pretty strong down low (18G28). One note about the first photo - it shows us flying on top - but that lasted less than 20 miles, just north of PXT VOR and it all cleared up before we reached Dover, DE. Flying over JFK and seeing Manhattan was one of the highlights. Visibility was great! The workshop was extremely valuable. Mahlon, John, and Keith were great hosts and answered a bunch of questions we had. The assembly started around 9 and we were done by 3:30. Then we did a tour of a vintage car collection that was just breathtaking. Several cars there were "the only one remaining in the world." We even got to talk to Parker -- an 84-year-old owner of the collection. He loves this stuff and loves talking about it. On the way back we just reversed the route and stopped at MIV again. This time, JFK was even busier and we got to see a British Airways B-747 passing a few miles off our left wing at same altitude. And of course, as the Friday front passed, we got treated to more headwind on the way back. We did expect it though. Luckily it was a lot warmer on Sunday. Putting in a music input into the intercom was a great idea. I put a few photos on my site: http://www.vitez.net/mattituck/ Radomir -7A Panel href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com href="http://www.kitlog.com">www.kitlog.com href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.m atronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com href="http://www.kitlog.com">www.kitlog.com href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.m atronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Randy Utsey" <djdist(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Mattituck report
Date: Dec 13, 2006
You get almost the same treatment if you are IFR except they can't cancel you but you can always expect a bunch of re-routes. 7 is progressing, Steve is lending a hand today for interior paint, then I can actually start putting things in to stay. Thanks for the heat tip! Randy Utsey D.J. Distributing Co. 1429 Bryant St. Charlotte, NC 28208 800-585-4126 djdist(at)bellsouth.net www.djdist.com ----- Original Message ----- From: tadsargent To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 5:51 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Mattituck report We talked to no one and they did not want to talk to us. Wash center passed us off so many times to Pawtaxunt NAS and back I thought we were a ping pong ball. By the time we got to JFK we decided to just screw talking to anyone so long as we were at VFR alts. and on the airway. Planning through Rad was VOR to VOR right over the top. How's your 7 coming. BTW the heat is negligable at 12F So put your intake on the rear baffle if you want heat at 8500 Tad ----- Original Message ----- From: Randy Utsey To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 11:25 AM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Mattituck report Hey Tad, Rad, did you get flight following over JFK or did you cross over above their class B? Randy Utsey D.J. Distributing Co. 1429 Bryant St. Charlotte, NC 28208 800-585-4126 djdist(at)bellsouth.net www.djdist.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Bowen To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 9:43 PM Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Mattituck report Sounds great. What were your approx enroute times? - Larry Bowen Larry(at)BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Radomir Zaric [mailto:vitez(at)carolina.rr.com] Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 9:21 AM To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Mattituck report Tad and I got back from Mattituck yesterday and it was a great weekend. We went for the engine assembly workshop, similar/same to the ones they normally do at Sun'n'Fun and Oshkosh. The trip up can be summarized in only a few words: COLD, beautiful weather, headwinds, and windy down low. We stopped at Millville, NJ for lunch and gas and parked right next to a Gulfstream IV on a nearly empty ramp. It was a good place to stop with 2 restaurants on field and reasonable gas price. The ride up was very, very smooth at altitude (7,500) but winds were pretty strong down low (18G28). One note about the first photo - it shows us flying on top - but that lasted less than 20 miles, just north of PXT VOR and it all cleared up before we reached Dover, DE. Flying over JFK and seeing Manhattan was one of the highlights. Visibility was great!


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