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Danny's (Speedy's) perspective ... James ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Daniel.Kight(at)shawinc.com <Daniel.Kight(at)shawinc.com>
Date: - - - , 20-
Subject: n Lakeland!
Cc: james(at)nextupventures.com, KHarrill(at)osa.state.sc.us, ronschreck(at)alltel.net, rkharr(at)gmail.com, paulf(at)ncsu.edu, tadsargent(at)bellsouth.net, Daniel.Kight(at)shawinc.com, bill28104(at)yahoo.com The Palmetto Wing had an outstanding trip to Lakeland for the RV fly-in this weekend! Friday morning we ("Speedy"/Ken Alderman, Ken Harrill/Melinda, James Clark, , Len "Cover Boy" Leggett, Ron "Smokey" Schreck, and Larry Bowen) met up in Hazelhurst, GA for a top off of $2.80/gal 100LL. Smokey led the 6-ship to Cedar Key for lunch, and a short taxi ride into town had us chowing down on grouper sandwiches, shrimp sandwiches, and complimentary swamp cabbage (hearts of palm). To keep from being completely overgross on takeoff (and save the $5/head taxi ride) we walked the mile back to the airport, where James led the flight on a short hop into Brooksville to pick up his friend, Nancy. I led the flight from Brooksville into Lakeland, and you couldn't have asked for better cooperation from the tower. As soon as I checked the flight in on tower frequency, he asked if we wanted to do any fly-bys and whether we wanted the initial for landing. Affirmative on both counts! We taxied in to the area beside the new Cessna Center and set up camp with 7 or 8 other RVs that had come in on Friday. It was really strange seeing "Sun-n-Fun" without the usual crush of planes, people, vendors, etc. It was very cool having the place to ourselves and being able to camp right beside our planes, with the bathhouse, and flush toilets all within 100 feet! Saturday was great, with almost 100 RVs coming in to eat, socialize with old and new friends, and attend the forums. Vic Syracuse and his wife showed up in their beautiful RV-10, and Steve Coleman came up from Jax in his -4. It was good to see all of you! Smokey had to return home, but later in the afternoon, I led a 4-ship (Speedy, James, Ken, and Cover Boy) to Zephyr Hills for fuel, and as an excuse to do a little formation flying. There was a guy there who was very excited to see the "show" and ran over to us to take our picture with his 110 Instamatic camera. Taxiing out, Cover Boy hammed it up by waving and blowing kisses to the imaginary crowd. That cinched his new call sign...... Heading back to LAL, the sun was getting low and the light was golden. Again, the tower anticipated what I wanted, and we made a perfect diamond pass (with smoke) in the butter-smooth air. Man, it doesn't get much better than that! We all sat around a big fire Saturday night, roasting marshmallows and swapping lies. Sunday morning it was donuts and coffee, then strike the tents, saddle up and RTB. Cover Boy and Larry left first to try and beat the ice to Winston, NC (which they barely did), James took Nancy back to Brooksville, then went on to Columbia, and Ken and I made a 2-ship up the GA coastline. What a spectacular route! We wanted to have lunch in Columbia with everyone, but after a quick look at the radar, decided to beat feet back to Anderson. We landed and got the plane in the hangar just before the serious rain started! To everyone who went, thanks for a memorable weekend of friends, fun, and flying. To those who didn't go, you really missed an outstanding weekend- put it on your calendar for next year. Speedy ********************************************************** Privileged and/or confidential information may be contained in this message. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or are not responsible for delivery of this message to that person) , you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. In such case, you should destroy this message and notify the sender by reply e-mail. If you or your employer do not consent to Internet e-mail for messages of this kind, please advise the sender. Shaw Industries does not provide or endorse any opinions, conclusions or other information in this message that do not relate to the official business of the company or its subsidiaries. ********************************************************** -- This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at james(at)nextupventures.com . ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 15 Msgs - 01/22/07
From: lee.logan(at)gulfstream.com
Date: Jan 23, 2007
If they couldn't see me, it had to be because I was inside working on the airplane! Trying to get the canopy slider to work right and everything to line up without interference---quite a challenge!! Lee... Lee Logan Government Programs and Sales Support Gulfstream Aerospace Corporation Savannah, Georgia This e-mail message, including all attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain legally privileged and confidential information. If you are not an intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have either received this message in error or through interception, and that any review, use, distribution, copying or disclosure of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited and is subject to criminal and civil penalties. All personal messages express solely the sender's views and not those of Gulfstream Aerospace Corporation. If you received this message in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Lenleg(at)aol.com
Date: Jan 23, 2007
Subject: i39 Flyin Feb. 24th.
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From: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: i39 Flyin Feb. 24th.
Date: Jan 23, 2007
Ya gott'a lay off the hootch, Len. Makes you hard to understand{:>) Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: <Lenleg(at)aol.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 2:31 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: i39 Flyin Feb. 24th. > NdGI1TkRjuQNHb4tYlLVoqhUXzi1Z8-AcWTNA-4-- > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: i39 Flyin Feb. 24th.
Date: Jan 23, 2007
Good shot Ed. I thought it was code for the formation boys. Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: Ed Anderson To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 3:08 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: i39 Flyin Feb. 24th. Ya gott'a lay off the hootch, Len. Makes you hard to understand{:>) Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: <Lenleg(at)aol.com> To: Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 2:31 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: i39 Flyin Feb. 24th. > NdGI1TkRjuQNHb4tYlLVoqhUXzi1Z8-AcWTNA-4-- > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 23, 2007
From: bob&verna <atbridge(at)peoplepc.com>
Subject: Re: Trip to Lakeland (long)
What part of PA? I am in S Jersey. -----Original Message----- >From: lucky <luckymacy(at)comcast.net> >Sent: Jan 22, 2007 4:23 PM >To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com >Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Trip to Lakeland (long) > >Looked like a lot of fun. It was 23 degrees F in my hangar while doing my conditional inspection over the weekend. Kept trying to remember why I moved from Florida up to PA in between the shivers. > > >-------------- Original message -------------- >From: "Oliver Washburn" <ollie6a(at)earthlink.net> > >Here are a few pictures I took at Lakeland. What a great weekend. > >http://picasaweb.google.com/OllieS7S/SFRVs107 > >Ollie 6A Loves Landing Airpark, FL >----- Original Message ----- >From: Tim Bolton >To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com >Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 11:28 PM >Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Trip to Lakeland (long) > > >We want pictures! > > >Tim Bolton >Charlotte, NC >www.TheRV7.com > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Larry Bowen >To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com >Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 9:29 PM >Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Trip to Lakeland (long) > > >Yes, yet another excellent adventure. > ________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________________
From: luckymacy(at)comcast.net (lucky)
Subject: Re: Trip to Lakeland (long)
Date: Jan 23, 2007
The plane is at New Garden, N57. lucky -------------- Original message -------------- From: bob&verna <atbridge(at)peoplepc.com> > > What part of PA? I am in S Jersey. > > -----Original Message----- > >From: lucky > >Sent: Jan 22, 2007 4:23 PM > >To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com > >Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Trip to Lakeland (long) > > > >Looked like a lot of fun. It was 23 degrees F in my hangar while doing my > conditional inspection over the weekend. Kept trying to remember why I moved > from Florida up to PA in between the shivers. > > > > > > > >-------------- Original message -------------- > >From: "Oliver Washburn" > > > >Here are a few pictures I took at Lakeland. What a great weekend. > > > >http://picasaweb.google.com/OllieS7S/SFRVs107 > > > >Ollie 6A Loves Landing Airpark, FL > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Tim Bolton > >To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com > >Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 11:28 PM > >Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Trip to Lakeland (long) > > > > > >We want pictures! > > > > > >Tim Bolton > >Charlotte, NC > >www.TheRV7.com > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Larry Bowen > >To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com > >Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 9:29 PM > >Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Trip to Lakeland (long) > > > > > >Yes, yet another excellent adventure. > > > > > ________________________________________ > > > >
The plane is at New Garden, N57.

lucky

> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: bob&verna
>
> What part of PA? I am in S Jersey.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: lucky
> >Sent: Jan 22, 2007 4:23 PM
> >To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com
> >Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Trip to Lakeland (long)
> >
> >Looked like a lot of fun. It was 23 degrees F in my hangar while doing my
> conditional inspection over the weekend. Kept trying to remember why I moved
> from Florida up to PA in between the shivers.
> >
> >
> >
> >-------------- Original message --------------
> >From: "Oliver Washburn" <OLLIE6A(at)EARTHLINK.NET>> > > >Here are a few pictures I took at Lakeland. What a great weekend. > > > >http://picasaweb.google.com/OllieS7S/SFRVs107 > > > >Ollie 6A Loves Landing Airpark, FL > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Tim Bolton > >To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > >Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 11:28 PM > >Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Trip to Lakeland (long) > > > > > >We want pictures! > > > > > >Tim Bolton > >Charlotte, NC > >www.TheRV7.com > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Larry Bowen > >To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > >Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 9:29 PM > >Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Trip to Lakeland (long) > > > > > >Yes, yet another excellent adventure. > > >

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From: "tadsargent" <tadsargent(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: i39 Flyin Feb. 24th.
Date: Jan 23, 2007
I think he's typing in icing conditions Stripes ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 3:08 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: i39 Flyin Feb. 24th. > > > Ya gott'a lay off the hootch, Len. Makes you hard to understand{:>) > > Ed > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Lenleg(at)aol.com> > To: > Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 2:31 PM > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: i39 Flyin Feb. 24th. > > >> NdGI1TkRjuQNHb4tYlLVoqhUXzi1Z8-AcWTNA-4-- >> >> > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: CreativAir landing lights
From: "David Lee" <odlee(at)bellsouth.net>
Date: Jan 23, 2007
Has anyone seen or tried CreativAir's 75 watt wingtip landing/taxi lights? Or maybe even seen them to compare to the DuckWork's 100 watt in-the-wing kits sold by Vans? http://www.creativair.com/landing-lights-p-91.html I know HID's are brighter, but not an option here. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks, David Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=89930#89930 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Randy Pinkston" <pinkston(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: CreativAir landing lights
Date: Jan 23, 2007
I have the 75 watt in my tips on a rv7a with strobe and nav light like bill shows @http://www.creativair.com/landing-lights-p-91.html I have a friend that has the duckworks in a rv6 ,,his is brighter but mine looks better and works ok,not great but its ok,,,,,bill has been working on some 100 watt bulbs for his lights also randy pinkston 705 rp ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lee" <odlee(at)bellsouth.net> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 8:56 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: CreativAir landing lights > > Has anyone seen or tried CreativAir's 75 watt wingtip landing/taxi lights? Or maybe even seen them to compare to the DuckWork's 100 watt in-the-wing kits sold by Vans? > > http://www.creativair.com/landing-lights-p-91.html > > I know HID's are brighter, but not an option here. Any info would be appreciated. > > Thanks, > David > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=89930#89930 > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Lenleg(at)aol.com
Date: Jan 23, 2007
Subject: Re: i39 Flyin Feb. 24th.
You are right ... that did not come through so well ... but it was so plain when I looked at it ... Doc ... I need help !!! Richmond, Kentucky Fly In put on for the last several years !!! Len In a message dated 1/23/2007 3:12:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com writes: Ya gott'a lay off the hootch, Len. Makes you hard to understand{:>) Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: <Lenleg(at)aol.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 2:31 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: i39 Flyin Feb. 24th. > NdGI1TkRjuQNHb4tYlLVoqhUXzi1Z8-AcWTNA-4-- ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Lenleg(at)aol.com
Date: Jan 23, 2007
Subject: Re: i39 Flyin Feb. 24th.
Geez .... a guy sees poodles on a wet runway one time ... Len In a message dated 1/23/2007 5:22:11 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, tadsargent(at)bellsouth.net writes: I think he's typing in icing conditions Stripes ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 3:08 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: i39 Flyin Feb. 24th. > > > Ya gott'a lay off the hootch, Len. Makes you hard to understand{:>) > > Ed > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Lenleg(at)aol.com> > To: > Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 2:31 PM > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: i39 Flyin Feb. 24th. > > >> NdGI1TkRjuQNHb4tYlLVoqhUXzi1Z8-AcWTNA-4-- >> >> > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: CreativAir landing lights
From: "David Lee" <odlee(at)bellsouth.net>
Date: Jan 23, 2007
Any worry about heat with either the 75 or 100 watt bulb? David Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=89954#89954 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Randy Pinkston" <pinkston(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: CreativAir landing lights
Date: Jan 23, 2007
yes that's why I have been waiting for bill to finish testing them,,,,75 watts seems to be ok, far as heat rp 705rp ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lee" <odlee(at)bellsouth.net> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 9:40 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Re: CreativAir landing lights > > Any worry about heat with either the 75 or 100 watt bulb? > David > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=89954#89954 > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Bill Repucci" <bill(at)repucci.com>
Subject: CreativAir landing lights
Date: Jan 23, 2007
David, If you can hold off for a year you might get lucky. Toyota (Lexus actually) is supposed to release a car this year with LED headlights. Once that happens, I suspect that technology will trickle down to us RV types. Bill -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Lee Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 8:56 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: CreativAir landing lights --> Has anyone seen or tried CreativAir's 75 watt wingtip landing/taxi lights? Or maybe even seen them to compare to the DuckWork's 100 watt in-the-wing kits sold by Vans? http://www.creativair.com/landing-lights-p-91.html I know HID's are brighter, but not an option here. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks, David Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=89930#89930 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: CreativAir landing lights
From: "David Lee" <odlee(at)bellsouth.net>
Date: Jan 23, 2007
Wonder if Bill @ CreativAir is going that route? The wing tips seem very tight for a 100 watt halogen. A new smoke generator! May go with the 75 w and hope. David Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=89975#89975 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "tadsargent" <tadsargent(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: CreativAir landing lights
Date: Jan 24, 2007
David, I have the Nav lights from creativ and think they are great. They are much brighter than standard bulbs and draw very little current. I do not have the landing lights but if I had it all to do again I would have them instead of cutting a whole in my wing Tad, "Stripes" 201hours 7A ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lee" <odlee(at)bellsouth.net> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 8:56 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: CreativAir landing lights > > Has anyone seen or tried CreativAir's 75 watt wingtip landing/taxi lights? > Or maybe even seen them to compare to the DuckWork's 100 watt in-the-wing > kits sold by Vans? > > http://www.creativair.com/landing-lights-p-91.html > > I know HID's are brighter, but not an option here. Any info would be > appreciated. > > Thanks, > David > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=89930#89930 > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 24, 2007
From: "Bill Boyd" <sportav8r(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: i39 Flyin Feb. 24th.
/clandestine radio/ "The poodle is on the runway. The poodle is on the runway. Out." /clandestine radio/ -Stormy On 1/23/07, Lenleg(at)aol.com wrote: > > > Geez .... a guy sees poodles on a wet runway one time ... > > Len > > > In a message dated 1/23/2007 5:22:11 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > tadsargent(at)bellsouth.net writes: > I think he's typing in icing conditions > Stripes > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com> > To: > Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 3:08 PM > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: i39 Flyin Feb. 24th. > > > > > > > > Ya gott'a lay off the hootch, Len. Makes you hard to understand{:>) > > > > Ed > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <Lenleg(at)aol.com> > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 2:31 PM > > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: i39 Flyin Feb. 24th. > > > > > >> NdGI1TkRjuQNHb4tYlLVoqhUXzi1Z8-AcWTNA-4-- > >> > >> > > > > > > > > Use lities Day --> - NEW MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - > bsp; --> ===================== > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Fuel Pressure Fixed
Date: Jan 27, 2007
Turns out there was apparently air in the line to the sender. Probably from lines being open on annual. I flew before doing the procedure below and the fuel pressure was all over the place. From 4 to 9.5 psi. Anyway here is what to do to get the air out. Disconnect wires from fuel sender. Loosen sender so it can be moved by hand. Keep sender hand tight and turn on electric pump. Now loosen sender till fuel comes out around the pipe fitting. Then tighten to stop the fuel from leaking. Turn off electric pump, secure sender and hook up wires. Done. From now on I will do this procedure whenever a fuel line is opened. I flew before doing this and the fuel pressure was all over the place. From 4 to 9.5 psi. Cappy ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 27, 2007
From: "Bill Boyd" <sportav8r(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Fuel Pressure Fixed
Interesting, Cappy. I've never had to do this with either my oil or fuel pressure transducers. I figured fluid is fluid, whether oil, gasoline or air; all should transfer the pressure to the sensor just fine. No problems thus far. It's not like it could cavitate or anything. Makes one wonder... anyhow, glad it's fixed. I might get to fly tomorrow if the runway isn;t too mushy; the winds today were gusty on the ground and 50 kts at 6000 AGL. Turbulence in these-here mountains! -Stormy On 1/27/07, Steve Glasgow wrote: > > Turns out there was apparently air in the line to the sender. Probably from > lines being open on annual. > > I flew before doing the procedure below and the fuel pressure was all over > the place. From 4 to 9.5 psi. > > Anyway here is what to do to get the air out. Disconnect wires from fuel > sender. Loosen sender so it can be moved by hand. Keep sender hand tight > and turn on electric pump. Now loosen sender till fuel comes out around the > pipe fitting. Then tighten to stop the fuel from leaking. Turn off > electric pump, secure sender and hook up wires. Done. From now on I will > do this procedure whenever a fuel line is opened. > > I flew before doing this and the fuel pressure was all over the place. From > 4 to 9.5 psi. > > Cappy > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 27, 2007
From: bill crothers <bill28104(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Fuel Pressure Fixed
looks like 20-30k in Ashe co. and snow flurries...better keep it on the gnd. Stormer...RR --- Bill Boyd wrote: > > > Interesting, Cappy. I've never had to do this with > either my oil or > fuel pressure transducers. I figured fluid is > fluid, whether oil, > gasoline or air; all should transfer the pressure to > the sensor just > fine. No problems thus far. It's not like it could > cavitate or > anything. > > Makes one wonder... anyhow, glad it's fixed. I > might get to fly > tomorrow if the runway isn;t too mushy; the winds > today were gusty on > the ground and 50 kts at 6000 AGL. Turbulence in > these-here > mountains! > > -Stormy > > On 1/27/07, Steve Glasgow > wrote: > Glasgow" > > > > Turns out there was apparently air in the line to > the sender. Probably from > > lines being open on annual. > > > > I flew before doing the procedure below and the > fuel pressure was all over > > the place. From 4 to 9.5 psi. > > > > Anyway here is what to do to get the air out. > Disconnect wires from fuel > > sender. Loosen sender so it can be moved by hand. > Keep sender hand tight > > and turn on electric pump. Now loosen sender till > fuel comes out around the > > pipe fitting. Then tighten to stop the fuel from > leaking. Turn off > > electric pump, secure sender and hook up wires. > Done. From now on I will > > do this procedure whenever a fuel line is opened. > > > > I flew before doing this and the fuel pressure was > all over the place. From > > 4 to 9.5 psi. > > > > Cappy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List > > Web Forums! > > > > > Get your own web address. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
Subject: Fuel Pressure Fixed
Date: Jan 27, 2007
Glad to hear you are back in the air. I filled up today at RUQ for the first time since leaving BKV in FL last Sunday. Only 26 gallons to fill up. That's almost 19 mpg. Better than the Tundra. Amazing to me. I went to MTV for a late lunch afterwards. There was a couple RV's there getting ready to go as I can in. From EXX, ROA, and GSO (?). They're everywhere. :) Keep building, - Larry Bowen, RV-8 & 7 emp. Larry(at)BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly(at)carolina.rr.com] > Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 5:13 PM > To: SERV > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Pressure Fixed > > --> > > Turns out there was apparently air in the line to the sender. > Probably from lines being open on annual. > > I flew before doing the procedure below and the fuel pressure > was all over the place. From 4 to 9.5 psi. > > Anyway here is what to do to get the air out. Disconnect > wires from fuel sender. Loosen sender so it can be moved by > hand. Keep sender hand tight and turn on electric pump. Now > loosen sender till fuel comes out around the pipe fitting. > Then tighten to stop the fuel from leaking. Turn off > electric pump, secure sender and hook up wires. Done. From > now on I will do this procedure whenever a fuel line is opened. > > I flew before doing this and the fuel pressure was all over > the place. From > 4 to 9.5 psi. > > Cappy ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Ron Schreck" <ronschreck(at)alltel.net>
Subject: Fuel Pressure Fixed
Date: Jan 28, 2007
Steve, Glad to hear you are back in the air. Actually, your problem and solution makes perfect sense to me (Monday morning quarterbacking, however). If your fuel and oil pressure sensors are mounted high on the firewall, it only makes sense that any air trapped in the lines will never bleed out (down hill) without some help. True, the trapped air may transfer some measure of pressure, but being much more compressible than a liquid it would certainly be a false reading. I think your solution merits a mention on the RV list and perhaps a suggestion that these sensors be mounted low on the firewall to avoid the problem altogether. Nice work, Cappy! Smokey -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve Glasgow Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 5:13 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Pressure Fixed --> Turns out there was apparently air in the line to the sender. Probably from lines being open on annual. I flew before doing the procedure below and the fuel pressure was all over the place. From 4 to 9.5 psi. Anyway here is what to do to get the air out. Disconnect wires from fuel sender. Loosen sender so it can be moved by hand. Keep sender hand tight and turn on electric pump. Now loosen sender till fuel comes out around the pipe fitting. Then tighten to stop the fuel from leaking. Turn off electric pump, secure sender and hook up wires. Done. From now on I will do this procedure whenever a fuel line is opened. I flew before doing this and the fuel pressure was all over the place. >From 4 to 9.5 psi. Cappy -- 1/26/2007 11:11 AM -- 1/27/2007 5:02 PM ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Fuel Pressure Fixed
Date: Jan 28, 2007
Thanks for the Kudos Smokey! As you know I have been dealing with Low or High fuel pressure since the beginning so I'm whiting till the jury is in. I have ordered a direct reading pressure gauge that should be here Wednesday. Then I can find out what the "real fuel pressure" is. Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: Ron Schreck To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 7:17 AM Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Pressure Fixed Steve, Glad to hear you are back in the air. Actually, your problem and solution makes perfect sense to me (Monday morning quarterbacking, however). If your fuel and oil pressure sensors are mounted high on the firewall, it only makes sense that any air trapped in the lines will never bleed out (down hill) without some help. True, the trapped air may transfer some measure of pressure, but being much more compressible than a liquid it would certainly be a false reading. I think your solution merits a mention on the RV list and perhaps a suggestion that these sensors be mounted low on the firewall to avoid the problem altogether. Nice work, Cappy! Smokey -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve Glasgow Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 5:13 PM To: SERV Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Pressure Fixed --> Turns out there was apparently air in the line to the sender. Probably from lines being open on annual. I flew before doing the procedure below and the fuel pressure was all over the place. From 4 to 9.5 psi. Anyway here is what to do to get the air out. Disconnect wires from fuel sender. Loosen sender so it can be moved by hand. Keep sender hand tight and turn on electric pump. Now loosen sender till fuel comes out around the pipe fitting. Then tighten to stop the fuel from leaking. Turn off electric pump, secure sender and hook up wires. Done. From now on I will do this procedure whenever a fuel line is opened. I flew before doing this and the fuel pressure was all over the place. >From 4 to 9.5 psi. Cappy -- 1/26/2007 11:11 AM -- 1/27/2007 5:02 PM ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 28, 2007
From: "Bill Boyd" <sportav8r(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Fuel Pressure Fixed
Smokey, I think the trapped air compresses until it reaches equilib. and then transmits all the pressure on down the line... in doing so it will tend to dampen any pulses (soften the water-hammer effect, what-have-you) but I think all the pressure will show up at the transducer. Enlighten me if I'm overlooking the obvious. It sounds like Cappy might have fixed his gauge but broken some law of physics. Typical Cappy maneuver if you ask me. Today I shall have to see if he messed up Bernouli and Newton's, by seeing if my wing still generates enough lift to fly :-) Cappy, I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't break or damage physical laws that the rest of us use every day, just to get your gauges reading correctly; that's very selfish and won't be tolerated. -Stormy On 1/28/07, Ron Schreck wrote: > > Steve, > > Glad to hear you are back in the air. Actually, your problem and > solution makes perfect sense to me (Monday morning quarterbacking, > however). If your fuel and oil pressure sensors are mounted high on the > firewall, it only makes sense that any air trapped in the lines will > never bleed out (down hill) without some help. True, the trapped air > may transfer some measure of pressure, but being much more compressible > than a liquid it would certainly be a false reading. I think your > solution merits a mention on the RV list and perhaps a suggestion that > these sensors be mounted low on the firewall to avoid the problem > altogether. Nice work, Cappy! > > Smokey > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve > Glasgow > Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 5:13 PM > To: SERV > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Pressure Fixed > > > --> > > Turns out there was apparently air in the line to the sender. Probably > from > lines being open on annual. > > I flew before doing the procedure below and the fuel pressure was all > over > the place. From 4 to 9.5 psi. > > Anyway here is what to do to get the air out. Disconnect wires from > fuel > sender. Loosen sender so it can be moved by hand. Keep sender hand > tight > and turn on electric pump. Now loosen sender till fuel comes out around > the > pipe fitting. Then tighten to stop the fuel from leaking. Turn off > electric pump, secure sender and hook up wires. Done. From now on I > will > do this procedure whenever a fuel line is opened. > > I flew before doing this and the fuel pressure was all over the place. > >From > 4 to 9.5 psi. > > Cappy > > > -- > 1/26/2007 11:11 AM > > > -- > 1/27/2007 5:02 PM > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Fuel Pressure Fixed
Date: Jan 28, 2007
What about compressibility of a gas verses a liquid. Water pipes have air trapped in them all the time to prevent hammer effect. The pressure sender is up the line not down the line. Pressure is correct at the engine, just not the pressure sender which is way above the carburetor. You may be correct if the sender is plumbed at the carburetor but mine isn't. All I know is it worked. No more oscillating fuel pressure. Stormy, are you giving us bad coordinates again? Love Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Boyd To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 8:05 AM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Pressure Fixed Smokey, I think the trapped air compresses until it reaches equilib. and then transmits all the pressure on down the line... in doing so it will tend to dampen any pulses (soften the water-hammer effect, what-have-you) but I think all the pressure will show up at the transducer. Enlighten me if I'm overlooking the obvious. It sounds like Cappy might have fixed his gauge but broken some law of physics. Typical Cappy maneuver if you ask me. Today I shall have to see if he messed up Bernouli and Newton's, by seeing if my wing still generates enough lift to fly :-) Cappy, I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't break or damage physical laws that the rest of us use every day, just to get your gauges reading correctly; that's very selfish and won't be tolerated. -Stormy On 1/28/07, Ron Schreck wrote: > > Steve, > > Glad to hear you are back in the air. Actually, your problem and > solution makes perfect sense to me (Monday morning quarterbacking, > however). If your fuel and oil pressure sensors are mounted high on the > firewall, it only makes sense that any air trapped in the lines will > never bleed out (down hill) without some help. True, the trapped air > may transfer some measure of pressure, but being much more compressible > than a liquid it would certainly be a false reading. I think your > solution merits a mention on the RV list and perhaps a suggestion that > these sensors be mounted low on the firewall to avoid the problem > altogether. Nice work, Cappy! > > Smokey > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve > Glasgow > Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 5:13 PM > To: SERV > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Pressure Fixed > > > --> > > Turns out there was apparently air in the line to the sender. Probably > from > lines being open on annual. > > I flew before doing the procedure below and the fuel pressure was all > over > the place. From 4 to 9.5 psi. > > Anyway here is what to do to get the air out. Disconnect wires from > fuel > sender. Loosen sender so it can be moved by hand. Keep sender hand > tight > and turn on electric pump. Now loosen sender till fuel comes out around > the > pipe fitting. Then tighten to stop the fuel from leaking. Turn off > electric pump, secure sender and hook up wires. Done. From now on I > will > do this procedure whenever a fuel line is opened. > > I flew before doing this and the fuel pressure was all over the place. > >From > 4 to 9.5 psi. > > Cappy > > > > > > > -- > 1/26/2007 11:11 AM > > > -- > 1/27/2007 5:02 PM > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 28, 2007
From: "Bill Boyd" <sportav8r(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Fuel Pressure Fixed
Yeah, I've been known to lose my position fix on the internet before... I'm wrestling with this and want to understand it. You raise one (calibration) point below: the pressure you read will be less than carb pressure by the height of the fluid column betwee the carb and the transducer. Not sure how many inches of gasoline column equal one p.s.i., but it varies with gasoline versus air because of the differing densities. Same reason a barometer made with mercury is only a few feet tall versus one with water at around 32 feet tall! The way I look at it, the pressure at my air tool is at the same value as at the compressor regulator (until I squeeze the trigger and air flow in the line causes a "voltage drop" - I'm talking about static pressure, such as we read in a fuel pressure line that dead-ends into a transducer). To me this demonstrates that air sends its pressure down the hose just like any other fluid, otherwise my pneumatic tools would not work. I still believe that when your fuel system pressurizes, everything in the system, even trapped air, comes up to the same pressure and should read as such on any transducer. If I'm mistaken, let me know; meanwhile my air tools still work just dandy on this exact principle. But as you say, I've been wrong before. I only belabor the point b/c I'm not convinced that this could have fixed the problem and you might need to keep investigating. -Stormy On 1/28/07, Steve Glasgow wrote: > > > What about compressibility of a gas verses a liquid. Water pipes have air > trapped in them all the time to prevent hammer effect. The pressure sender > is up the line not down the line. Pressure is correct at the engine, just > not the pressure sender which is way above the carburetor. You may be > correct if the sender is plumbed at the carburetor but mine isn't. All I > know is it worked. No more oscillating fuel pressure. > > Stormy, are you giving us bad coordinates again? > > Love Cappy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bill Boyd > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com > Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 8:05 AM > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Pressure Fixed > > > Smokey, > > I think the trapped air compresses until it reaches equilib. and then > transmits all the pressure on down the line... in doing so it will > tend to dampen any pulses (soften the water-hammer effect, > what-have-you) but I think all the pressure will show up at the > transducer. Enlighten me if I'm overlooking the obvious. > > It sounds like Cappy might have fixed his gauge but broken some law of > physics. Typical Cappy maneuver if you ask me. Today I shall have to > see if he messed up Bernouli and Newton's, by seeing if my wing still > generates enough lift to fly :-) > > Cappy, I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't break or damage physical laws > that the rest of us use every day, just to get your gauges reading > correctly; that's very selfish and won't be tolerated. > > -Stormy > > On 1/28/07, Ron Schreck wrote: > > > > > Steve, > > > > Glad to hear you are back in the air. Actually, your problem and > > solution makes perfect sense to me (Monday morning quarterbacking, > > however). If your fuel and oil pressure sensors are mounted high on the > > firewall, it only makes sense that any air trapped in the lines will > > never bleed out (down hill) without some help. True, the trapped air > > may transfer some measure of pressure, but being much more compressible > > than a liquid it would certainly be a false reading. I think your > > solution merits a mention on the RV list and perhaps a suggestion that > > these sensors be mounted low on the firewall to avoid the problem > > altogether. Nice work, Cappy! > > > > Smokey > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On > Behalf Of Steve > > Glasgow > > Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 5:13 PM > > To: SERV > > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Pressure Fixed > > > > > > --> > > > > Turns out there was apparently air in the line to the sender. Probably > > from > > lines being open on annual. > > > > I flew before doing the procedure below and the fuel pressure was all > > over > > the place. From 4 to 9.5 psi. > > > > Anyway here is what to do to get the air out. Disconnect wires from > > fuel > > sender. Loosen sender so it can be moved by hand. Keep sender hand > > tight > > and turn on electric pump. Now loosen sender till fuel comes out around > > the > > pipe fitting. Then tighten to stop the fuel from leaking. Turn off > > electric pump, secure sender and hook up wires. Done. From now on I > > will > > do this procedure whenever a fuel line is opened. > > > > I flew before doing this and the fuel pressure was all over the place. > > >From > > 4 to 9.5 psi. > > > > Cappy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > 1/26/2007 11:11 AM > > > > > > -- > > 1/27/2007 5:02 p; Features Subscriptions > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.mp; > available via > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 28, 2007
From: "James Clark" <jclarkmail(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Fuel Pressure Fixed
Consider this: Removing the "air" may have been the mechanism that removed some other "trapped particle" that might have been affecting the transducer. James On 1/28/07, Bill Boyd wrote: > > > Yeah, I've been known to lose my position fix on the internet before... > > I'm wrestling with this and want to understand it. You raise one > (calibration) point below: the pressure you read will be less than > carb pressure by the height of the fluid column betwee the carb and > the transducer. Not sure how many inches of gasoline column equal one > p.s.i., but it varies with gasoline versus air because of the > differing densities. Same reason a barometer made with mercury is > only a few feet tall versus one with water at around 32 feet tall! > > The way I look at it, the pressure at my air tool is at the same value > as at the compressor regulator (until I squeeze the trigger and air > flow in the line causes a "voltage drop" - I'm talking about static > pressure, such as we read in a fuel pressure line that dead-ends into > a transducer). To me this demonstrates that air sends its pressure > down the hose just like any other fluid, otherwise my pneumatic tools > would not work. > > I still believe that when your fuel system pressurizes, everything in > the system, even trapped air, comes up to the same pressure and should > read as such on any transducer. If I'm mistaken, let me know; > meanwhile my air tools still work just dandy on this exact principle. > But as you say, I've been wrong before. > > I only belabor the point b/c I'm not convinced that this could have > fixed the problem and you might need to keep investigating. > > -Stormy > > On 1/28/07, Steve Glasgow wrote: > > > > > > What about compressibility of a gas verses a liquid. Water pipes have > air > > trapped in them all the time to prevent hammer effect. The pressure > sender > > is up the line not down the line. Pressure is correct at the engine, > just > > not the pressure sender which is way above the carburetor. You may be > > correct if the sender is plumbed at the carburetor but mine > isn't. All I > > know is it worked. No more oscillating fuel pressure. > > > > Stormy, are you giving us bad coordinates again? > > > > Love Cappy > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Bill Boyd > > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com > > Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 8:05 AM > > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Pressure Fixed > > > > > > > > Smokey, > > > > I think the trapped air compresses until it reaches equilib. and then > > transmits all the pressure on down the line... in doing so it will > > tend to dampen any pulses (soften the water-hammer effect, > > what-have-you) but I think all the pressure will show up at the > > transducer. Enlighten me if I'm overlooking the obvious. > > > > It sounds like Cappy might have fixed his gauge but broken some law of > > physics. Typical Cappy maneuver if you ask me. Today I shall have to > > see if he messed up Bernouli and Newton's, by seeing if my wing still > > generates enough lift to fly :-) > > > > Cappy, I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't break or damage physical laws > > that the rest of us use every day, just to get your gauges reading > > correctly; that's very selfish and won't be tolerated. > > > > -Stormy > > > > On 1/28/07, Ron Schreck wrote: > > > > > > > > Steve, > > > > > > Glad to hear you are back in the air. Actually, your problem and > > > solution makes perfect sense to me (Monday morning quarterbacking, > > > however). If your fuel and oil pressure sensors are mounted high on > the > > > firewall, it only makes sense that any air trapped in the lines will > > > never bleed out (down hill) without some help. True, the trapped air > > > may transfer some measure of pressure, but being much more > compressible > > > than a liquid it would certainly be a false reading. I think your > > > solution merits a mention on the RV list and perhaps a suggestion that > > > these sensors be mounted low on the firewall to avoid the problem > > > altogether. Nice work, Cappy! > > > > > > Smokey > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com > > > [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On > > Behalf Of Steve > > > Glasgow > > > Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 5:13 PM > > > To: SERV > > > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Pressure Fixed > > > > > > > > > --> > > > > > > Turns out there was apparently air in the line to the > sender. Probably > > > from > > > lines being open on annual. > > > > > > I flew before doing the procedure below and the fuel pressure was all > > > over > > > the place. From 4 to 9.5 psi. > > > > > > Anyway here is what to do to get the air out. Disconnect wires from > > > fuel > > > sender. Loosen sender so it can be moved by hand. Keep sender hand > > > tight > > > and turn on electric pump. Now loosen sender till fuel comes out > around > > > the > > > pipe fitting. Then tighten to stop the fuel from leaking. Turn off > > > electric pump, secure sender and hook up wires. Done. From now on I > > > will > > > do this procedure whenever a fuel line is opened. > > > > > > I flew before doing this and the fuel pressure was all over the place. > > > >From > > > 4 to 9.5 psi. > > > > > > Cappy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > 1/26/2007 11:11 AM > > > > > > > > > -- > > > 1/27/2007 5:02 p; Features Subscriptions > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.mp > ; > > available via > > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at james(at)nextupventures.com . ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 28, 2007
From: "Bill Boyd" <sportav8r(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Fuel Pressure Fixed
One never knows. Seems these transducers do have a troubled service history, though. Swaping them out usually fixes whatever problem one is posting to the list about :-) Steve's direct reading gauge will tell all when he gets it hooked in. -B On 1/28/07, James Clark wrote: > Consider this: Removing the "air" may have been the mechanism that removed > some other "trapped particle" that might have been affecting the transducer. > > James > > > On 1/28/07, Bill Boyd wrote: > > > > Yeah, I've been known to lose my position fix on the internet before... > > > > I'm wrestling with this and want to understand it. You raise one > > (calibration) point below: the pressure you read will be less than > > carb pressure by the height of the fluid column betwee the carb and > > the transducer. Not sure how many inches of gasoline column equal one > > p.s.i., but it varies with gasoline versus air because of the > > differing densities. Same reason a barometer made with mercury is > > only a few feet tall versus one with water at around 32 feet tall! > > > > The way I look at it, the pressure at my air tool is at the same value > > as at the compressor regulator (until I squeeze the trigger and air > > flow in the line causes a "voltage drop" - I'm talking about static > > pressure, such as we read in a fuel pressure line that dead-ends into > > a transducer). To me this demonstrates that air sends its pressure > > down the hose just like any other fluid, otherwise my pneumatic tools > > would not work. > > > > I still believe that when your fuel system pressurizes, everything in > > the system, even trapped air, comes up to the same pressure and should > > read as such on any transducer. If I'm mistaken, let me know; > > meanwhile my air tools still work just dandy on this exact principle. > > But as you say, I've been wrong before. > > > > I only belabor the point b/c I'm not convinced that this could have > > fixed the problem and you might need to keep investigating. > > > > -Stormy > > > > On 1/28/07, Steve Glasgow < willfly(at)carolina.rr.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > What about compressibility of a gas verses a liquid. Water pipes have > air > > > trapped in them all the time to prevent hammer effect. The pressure > sender > > > is up the line not down the line. Pressure is correct at the engine, > just > > > not the pressure sender which is way above the carburetor. You may be > > > correct if the sender is plumbed at the carburetor but mine isn't. > All I > > > know is it worked. No more oscillating fuel pressure. > > > > > > Stormy, are you giving us bad coordinates again? > > > > > > Love Cappy > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Bill Boyd > > > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com > > > Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 8:05 AM > > > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Pressure Fixed > > > > sportav8r(at)gmail.com> > > > > > > Smokey, > > > > > > I think the trapped air compresses until it reaches equilib. and then > > > transmits all the pressure on down the line... in doing so it will > > > tend to dampen any pulses (soften the water-hammer effect, > > > what-have-you) but I think all the pressure will show up at the > > > transducer. Enlighten me if I'm overlooking the obvious. > > > > > > It sounds like Cappy might have fixed his gauge but broken some law of > > > physics. Typical Cappy maneuver if you ask me. Today I shall have to > > > see if he messed up Bernouli and Newton's, by seeing if my wing still > > > generates enough lift to fly :-) > > > > > > Cappy, I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't break or damage physical laws > > > that the rest of us use every day, just to get your gauges reading > > > correctly; that's very selfish and won't be tolerated. > > > > > > -Stormy > > > > > > On 1/28/07, Ron Schreck wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Steve, > > > > > > > > Glad to hear you are back in the air. Actually, your problem and > > > > solution makes perfect sense to me (Monday morning quarterbacking, > > > > however). If your fuel and oil pressure sensors are mounted high on > the > > > > firewall, it only makes sense that any air trapped in the lines will > > > > never bleed out (down hill) without some help. True, the trapped air > > > > may transfer some measure of pressure, but being much more > compressible > > > > than a liquid it would certainly be a false reading. I think your > > > > solution merits a mention on the RV list and perhaps a suggestion that > > > > these sensors be mounted low on the firewall to avoid the problem > > > > altogether. Nice work, Cappy! > > > > > > > > Smokey > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com > > > > [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com ] > On > > > Behalf Of Steve > > > > Glasgow > > > > Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 5:13 PM > > > > To: SERV > > > > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Pressure Fixed > > > > > > > > > > > > --> > > > > > > > > Turns out there was apparently air in the line to the sender. > Probably > > > > from > > > > lines being open on annual. > > > > > > > > I flew before doing the procedure below and the fuel pressure was all > > > > over > > > > the place. From 4 to 9.5 psi. > > > > > > > > Anyway here is what to do to get the air out. Disconnect wires from > > > > fuel > > > > sender. Loosen sender so it can be moved by hand. Keep sender hand > > > > tight > > > > and turn on electric pump. Now loosen sender till fuel comes out > around > > > > the > > > > pipe fitting. Then tighten to stop the fuel from leaking. Turn off > > > > electric pump, secure sender and hook up wires. Done. From now on I > > > > will > > > > do this procedure whenever a fuel line is opened. > > > > > > > > I flew before doing this and the fuel pressure was all over the place. > > > > >From > > > > 4 to 9.5 psi. > > > > > > > > Cappy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > 1/26/2007 11:11 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > 1/27/2007 5:02 p; Features Subscriptions > > > href=" > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.mp; > > > available via > > > href="http://forums.matronics.com > > > > > > > > > -- > This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at > james(at)nextupventures.com . > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Fuel Pressure Fixed
Date: Jan 28, 2007
I think you are correct, Cappy. There are several states of gas that can exist in a liquid, some which cause worst effects than others, but in any case, they all appear to affect pressure measurements in a line to various degrees. Although, the attached refers to air in a hydraulic system the effects are the same in a pressurized fuel line. Note that bubbles can cause changes in head pressure as well as erroneous measurements and response delays. Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Glasgow To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 8:27 AM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Pressure Fixed What about compressibility of a gas verses a liquid. Water pipes have air trapped in them all the time to prevent hammer effect. The pressure sender is up the line not down the line. Pressure is correct at the engine, just not the pressure sender which is way above the carburetor. You may be correct if the sender is plumbed at the carburetor but mine isn't. All I know is it worked. No more oscillating fuel pressure. Stormy, are you giving us bad coordinates again? Love Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Boyd To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 8:05 AM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Pressure Fixed Smokey, I think the trapped air compresses until it reaches equilib. and then transmits all the pressure on down the line... in doing so it will tend to dampen any pulses (soften the water-hammer effect, what-have-you) but I think all the pressure will show up at the transducer. Enlighten me if I'm overlooking the obvious. It sounds like Cappy might have fixed his gauge but broken some law of physics. Typical Cappy maneuver if you ask me. Today I shall have to see if he messed up Bernouli and Newton's, by seeing if my wing still generates enough lift to fly :-) Cappy, I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't break or damage physical laws that the rest of us use every day, just to get your gauges reading correctly; that's very selfish and won't be tolerated. -Stormy On 1/28/07, Ron Schreck wrote: > > Steve, > > Glad to hear you are back in the air. Actually, your problem and > solution makes perfect sense to me (Monday morning quarterbacking, > however). If your fuel and oil pressure sensors are mounted high on the > firewall, it only makes sense that any air trapped in the lines will > never bleed out (down hill) without some help. True, the trapped air > may transfer some measure of pressure, but being much more compressible > than a liquid it would certainly be a false reading. I think your > solution merits a mention on the RV list and perhaps a suggestion that > these sensors be mounted low on the firewall to avoid the problem > altogether. Nice work, Cappy! > > Smokey > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve > Glasgow > Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 5:13 PM > To: SERV > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Pressure Fixed > > > --> > > Turns out there was apparently air in the line to the sender. Probably > from > lines being open on annual. > > I flew before doing the procedure below and the fuel pressure was all > over > the place. From 4 to 9.5 psi. > > Anyway here is what to do to get the air out. Disconnect wires from > fuel > sender. Loosen sender so it can be moved by hand. Keep sender hand > tight > and turn on electric pump. Now loosen sender till fuel comes out around > the > pipe fitting. Then tighten to stop the fuel from leaking. Turn off > electric pump, secure sender and hook up wires. Done. From now on I > will > do this procedure whenever a fuel line is opened. > > I flew before doing this and the fuel pressure was all over the place. > >From > 4 to 9.5 psi. > > Cappy > > > > > > > -- > 1/26/2007 11:11 AM > > > -- > 1/27/2007 5:02 p; Features Subscriptions href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.m p; available via href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 28, 2007
From: "Bill Boyd" <sportav8r(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Fuel Pressure Fixed
Okay, I learned something today. Given what I know now, I'm glad mine have worked well all these years without any bleeding that I can recall doing. -Stormy On 1/28/07, Ed Anderson wrote: > > I think you are correct, Cappy. There are several states of gas that can > exist in a liquid, some which cause worst effects than others, but in any > case, they all appear to affect pressure measurements in a line to various > degrees. Although, the attached refers to air in a hydraulic system the > effects are the same in a pressurized fuel line. Note that bubbles can > cause changes in head pressure as well as erroneous measurements and > response delays. > > Ed > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Steve Glasgow > *To:* rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com > *Sent:* Sunday, January 28, 2007 8:27 AM > *Subject:* Re: RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Pressure Fixed > > What about compressibility of a gas verses a liquid. Water pipes have air > trapped in them all the time to prevent hammer effect. The pressure sender > is up the line not down the line. Pressure is correct at the engine, just > not the pressure sender which is way above the carburetor. You may be > correct if the sender is plumbed at the carburetor but mine isn't. All I > know is it worked. No more oscillating fuel pressure. > > Stormy, are you giving us bad coordinates again? > > Love Cappy > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Bill Boyd > *To:* rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com > *Sent:* Sunday, January 28, 2007 8:05 AM > *Subject:* Re: RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Pressure Fixed > > > Smokey, > > I think the trapped air compresses until it reaches equilib. and then > transmits all the pressure on down the line... in doing so it will > tend to dampen any pulses (soften the water-hammer effect, > what-have-you) but I think all the pressure will show up at the > transducer. Enlighten me if I'm overlooking the obvious. > > It sounds like Cappy might have fixed his gauge but broken some law of > physics. Typical Cappy maneuver if you ask me. Today I shall have to > see if he messed up Bernouli and Newton's, by seeing if my wing still > generates enough lift to fly :-) > > Cappy, I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't break or damage physical laws > that the rest of us use every day, just to get your gauges reading > correctly; that's very selfish and won't be tolerated. > > -Stormy > > On 1/28/07, Ron Schreck wrote: > ronschreck(at)alltel.net> > > > > Steve, > > > > Glad to hear you are back in the air. Actually, your problem and > > solution makes perfect sense to me (Monday morning quarterbacking, > > however). If your fuel and oil pressure sensors are mounted high on the > > firewall, it only makes sense that any air trapped in the lines will > > never bleed out (down hill) without some help. True, the trapped air > > may transfer some measure of pressure, but being much more compressible > > than a liquid it would certainly be a false reading. I think your > > solution merits a mention on the RV list and perhaps a suggestion that > > these sensors be mounted low on the firewall to avoid the problem > > altogether. Nice work, Cappy! > > > > Smokey > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve > > Glasgow > > Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 5:13 PM > > To: SERV > > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Pressure Fixed > > > > > > --> > > > > Turns out there was apparently air in the line to the sender. Probably > > from > > lines being open on annual. > > > > I flew before doing the procedure below and the fuel pressure was all > > over > > the place. From 4 to 9.5 psi. > > > > Anyway here is what to do to get the air out. Disconnect wires from > > fuel > > sender. Loosen sender so it can be moved by hand. Keep sender hand > > tight > > and turn on electric pump. Now loosen sender till fuel comes out around > > the > > pipe fitting. Then tighten to stop the fuel from leaking. Turn off > > electric pump, secure sender and hook up wires. Done. From now on I > > will > > do this procedure whenever a fuel line is opened. > > > > I flew before doing this and the fuel pressure was all over the place. > > >From > > 4 to 9.5 psi. > > > > Cappy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > 1/26/2007 11:11 AM > > > > > > -- > > 1/27/2007 5:02 p; Features Subscriptions href=" > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.mp; > available via href="http://forums.matronics.com"> > http://forums.matronics.com* > * > > * > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > * > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Fuel Pressure Fixed
Date: Jan 28, 2007
Thanks ED. I knew I liked you. I think it all has to do with where the sender is located Stormy. Mine is very high on the firewall. Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Boyd To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 1:24 PM Subject: Re: bubbles and pressure was : RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Pressure Fixed Okay, I learned something today. Given what I know now, I'm glad mine have worked well all these years without any bleeding that I can recall doing. -Stormy On 1/28/07, Ed Anderson wrote: I think you are correct, Cappy. There are several states of gas that can exist in a liquid, some which cause worst effects than others, but in any case, they all appear to affect pressure measurements in a line to various degrees. Although, the attached refers to air in a hydraulic system the effects are the same in a pressurized fuel line. Note that bubbles can cause changes in head pressure as well as erroneous measurements and response delays. Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Glasgow To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 8:27 AM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Pressure Fixed What about compressibility of a gas verses a liquid. Water pipes have air trapped in them all the time to prevent hammer effect. The pressure sender is up the line not down the line. Pressure is correct at the engine, just not the pressure sender which is way above the carburetor. You may be correct if the sender is plumbed at the carburetor but mine isn't. All I know is it worked. No more oscillating fuel pressure. Stormy, are you giving us bad coordinates again? Love Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Boyd To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 8:05 AM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Pressure Fixed Smokey, I think the trapped air compresses until it reaches equilib. and then transmits all the pressure on down the line... in doing so it will tend to dampen any pulses (soften the water-hammer effect, what-have-you) but I think all the pressure will show up at the transducer. Enlighten me if I'm overlooking the obvious. It sounds like Cappy might have fixed his gauge but broken some law of physics. Typical Cappy maneuver if you ask me. Today I shall have to see if he messed up Bernouli and Newton's, by seeing if my wing still generates enough lift to fly :-) Cappy, I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't break or damage physical laws that the rest of us use every day, just to get your gauges reading correctly; that's very selfish and won't be tolerated. -Stormy On 1/28/07, Ron Schreck wrote: > > Steve, > > Glad to hear you are back in the air. Actually, your problem and > solution makes perfect sense to me (Monday morning quarterbacking, > however). If your fuel and oil pressure sensors are mounted high on the > firewall, it only makes sense that any air trapped in the lines will > never bleed out (down hill) without some help. True, the trapped air > may transfer some measure of pressure, but being much more compressible > than a liquid it would certainly be a false reading. I think your > solution merits a mention on the RV list and perhaps a suggestion that > these sensors be mounted low on the firewall to avoid the problem > altogether. Nice work, Cappy! > > Smokey > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve > Glasgow > Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 5:13 PM > To: SERV > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Pressure Fixed > > > --> > > Turns out there was apparently air in the line to the sender. Probably > from > lines being open on annual. > > I flew before doing the procedure below and the fuel pressure was all > over > the place. From 4 to 9.5 psi. > > Anyway here is what to do to get the air out. Disconnect wires from > fuel > sender. Loosen sender so it can be moved by hand. Keep sender hand > tight > and turn on electric pump. Now loosen sender till fuel comes out around > the > pipe fitting. Then tighten to stop the fuel from leaking. Turn off > electric pump, secure sender and hook up wires. Done. From now on I > will > do this procedure whenever a fuel line is opened. > > I flew before doing this and the fuel pressure was all over the place. > >From > 4 to 9.5 psi. > > Cappy > > > > > > > -- > 1/26/2007 11:11 AM > > > -- > 1/27/2007 5:02 p; Features Subscriptions href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List"> http://www.mp; available via href="http://forums.matronics.com"> http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List"> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List href="http://forums.matronics.com"> http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 28, 2007
From: "Bill Boyd" <sportav8r(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Fuel Pressure Fixed
As are mine; as high as possible. 625 glitch-free hours but who's counting ;-) On 1/28/07, Steve Glasgow wrote: > > Thanks ED. I knew I liked you. I think it all has to do with where the > sender is located Stormy. Mine is very high on the firewall. > > Cappy > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Bill Boyd > *To:* rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com > *Sent:* Sunday, January 28, 2007 1:24 PM > *Subject:* Re: bubbles and pressure was : RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Pressure > Fixed > > Okay, I learned something today. > > Given what I know now, I'm glad mine have worked well all these years > without any bleeding that I can recall doing. > > -Stormy > > On 1/28/07, Ed Anderson wrote: > > > > I think you are correct, Cappy. There are several states of gas that > > can exist in a liquid, some which cause worst effects than others, but in > > any case, they all appear to affect pressure measurements in a line to > > various degrees. Although, the attached refers to air in a hydraulic system > > the effects are the same in a pressurized fuel line. Note that bubbles can > > cause changes in head pressure as well as erroneous measurements and > > response delays. > > > > Ed > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Steve Glasgow > > *To:* rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com > > *Sent:* Sunday, January 28, 2007 8:27 AM > > *Subject:* Re: RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Pressure Fixed > > > > What about compressibility of a gas verses a liquid. Water pipes have > > air trapped in them all the time to prevent hammer effect. The pressure > > sender is up the line not down the line. Pressure is correct at the engine, > > just not the pressure sender which is way above the carburetor. You may > > be correct if the sender is plumbed at the carburetor but mine isn't. All > > I know is it worked. No more oscillating fuel pressure. > > > > Stormy, are you giving us bad coordinates again? > > > > Love Cappy > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Bill Boyd > > *To:* rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com > > *Sent:* Sunday, January 28, 2007 8:05 AM > > *Subject:* Re: RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Pressure Fixed > > > > > > > > Smokey, > > > > I think the trapped air compresses until it reaches equilib. and then > > transmits all the pressure on down the line... in doing so it will > > tend to dampen any pulses (soften the water-hammer effect, > > what-have-you) but I think all the pressure will show up at the > > transducer. Enlighten me if I'm overlooking the obvious. > > > > It sounds like Cappy might have fixed his gauge but broken some law of > > physics. Typical Cappy maneuver if you ask me. Today I shall have to > > see if he messed up Bernouli and Newton's, by seeing if my wing still > > generates enough lift to fly :-) > > > > Cappy, I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't break or damage physical laws > > that the rest of us use every day, just to get your gauges reading > > correctly; that's very selfish and won't be tolerated. > > > > -Stormy > > > > On 1/28/07, Ron Schreck wrote: > > ronschreck(at)alltel.net> > > > > > > Steve, > > > > > > Glad to hear you are back in the air. Actually, your problem and > > > solution makes perfect sense to me (Monday morning quarterbacking, > > > however). If your fuel and oil pressure sensors are mounted high on > > the > > > firewall, it only makes sense that any air trapped in the lines will > > > never bleed out (down hill) without some help. True, the trapped air > > > may transfer some measure of pressure, but being much more > > compressible > > > than a liquid it would certainly be a false reading. I think your > > > solution merits a mention on the RV list and perhaps a suggestion that > > > these sensors be mounted low on the firewall to avoid the problem > > > altogether. Nice work, Cappy! > > > > > > Smokey > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com > > > [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of > > Steve > > > Glasgow > > > Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 5:13 PM > > > To: SERV > > > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Pressure Fixed > > > > > > > > > --> > > > > > > Turns out there was apparently air in the line to the sender. > > Probably > > > from > > > lines being open on annual. > > > > > > I flew before doing the procedure below and the fuel pressure was all > > > over > > > the place. From 4 to 9.5 psi. > > > > > > Anyway here is what to do to get the air out. Disconnect wires from > > > fuel > > > sender. Loosen sender so it can be moved by hand. Keep sender hand > > > tight > > > and turn on electric pump. Now loosen sender till fuel comes out > > around > > > the > > > pipe fitting. Then tighten to stop the fuel from leaking. Turn off > > > electric pump, secure sender and hook up wires. Done. From now on I > > > will > > > do this procedure whenever a fuel line is opened. > > > > > > I flew before doing this and the fuel pressure was all over the place. > > > >From > > > 4 to 9.5 psi. > > > > > > Cappy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > 1/26/2007 11:11 AM > > > > > > > > > -- > > > 1/27/2007 5:02 p; Features Subscriptions href=" > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List"> http://www.mp; > > available via href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > > * > > * > > > > * > > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List"> > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List > > href="http://forums.matronics.com"> > > http://forums.matronics.com > > * > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 28, 2007
From: "Bill Boyd" <sportav8r(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Fuel Pressure Fixed
Response delays I'll buy, Ed. In fact, I'll take water-hammer dampeners for $50, please ;-) There may be as many "states of gas that can exist in a liquid" as there are ways to leave your lover, but they are all at the same pressure if they're confined in the same hose - or I live in a parallel universe (a possibility I will disregard for the sake of continuing to fly with you fine friends ;-) -Stormy On 1/28/07, Ed Anderson wrote: > > I think you are correct, Cappy. There are several states of gas that can > exist in a liquid, some which cause worst effects than others, but in any > case, they all appear to affect pressure measurements in a line to various > degrees. Although, the attached refers to air in a hydraulic system the > effects are the same in a pressurized fuel line. Note that bubbles can > cause changes in head pressure as well as erroneous measurements and > response delays. > > Ed > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Steve Glasgow > *To:* rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com > *Sent:* Sunday, January 28, 2007 8:27 AM > *Subject:* Re: RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Pressure Fixed > > What about compressibility of a gas verses a liquid. Water pipes have air > trapped in them all the time to prevent hammer effect. The pressure sender > is up the line not down the line. Pressure is correct at the engine, just > not the pressure sender which is way above the carburetor. You may be > correct if the sender is plumbed at the carburetor but mine isn't. All I > know is it worked. No more oscillating fuel pressure. > > Stormy, are you giving us bad coordinates again? > > Love Cappy > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Bill Boyd > *To:* rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com > *Sent:* Sunday, January 28, 2007 8:05 AM > *Subject:* Re: RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Pressure Fixed > > > Smokey, > > I think the trapped air compresses until it reaches equilib. and then > transmits all the pressure on down the line... in doing so it will > tend to dampen any pulses (soften the water-hammer effect, > what-have-you) but I think all the pressure will show up at the > transducer. Enlighten me if I'm overlooking the obvious. > > It sounds like Cappy might have fixed his gauge but broken some law of > physics. Typical Cappy maneuver if you ask me. Today I shall have to > see if he messed up Bernouli and Newton's, by seeing if my wing still > generates enough lift to fly :-) > > Cappy, I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't break or damage physical laws > that the rest of us use every day, just to get your gauges reading > correctly; that's very selfish and won't be tolerated. > > -Stormy > > On 1/28/07, Ron Schreck wrote: > ronschreck(at)alltel.net> > > > > Steve, > > > > Glad to hear you are back in the air. Actually, your problem and > > solution makes perfect sense to me (Monday morning quarterbacking, > > however). If your fuel and oil pressure sensors are mounted high on the > > firewall, it only makes sense that any air trapped in the lines will > > never bleed out (down hill) without some help. True, the trapped air > > may transfer some measure of pressure, but being much more compressible > > than a liquid it would certainly be a false reading. I think your > > solution merits a mention on the RV list and perhaps a suggestion that > > these sensors be mounted low on the firewall to avoid the problem > > altogether. Nice work, Cappy! > > > > Smokey > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve > > Glasgow > > Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 5:13 PM > > To: SERV > > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Pressure Fixed > > > > > > --> > > > > Turns out there was apparently air in the line to the sender. Probably > > from > > lines being open on annual. > > > > I flew before doing the procedure below and the fuel pressure was all > > over > > the place. From 4 to 9.5 psi. > > > > Anyway here is what to do to get the air out. Disconnect wires from > > fuel > > sender. Loosen sender so it can be moved by hand. Keep sender hand > > tight > > and turn on electric pump. Now loosen sender till fuel comes out around > > the > > pipe fitting. Then tighten to stop the fuel from leaking. Turn off > > electric pump, secure sender and hook up wires. Done. From now on I > > will > > do this procedure whenever a fuel line is opened. > > > > I flew before doing this and the fuel pressure was all over the place. > > >From > > 4 to 9.5 psi. > > > > Cappy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > 1/26/2007 11:11 AM > > > > > > -- > > 1/27/2007 5:02 p; Features Subscriptions href=" > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.mp; > available via href="http://forums.matronics.com"> > http://forums.matronics.com* > * > > * > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > * > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Fuel Pressure Fixed
Date: Jan 28, 2007
I agree, Stormy, if you have a steady state condition. However, when the system environment is not static but dynamic then you can indeed have fluctuation states that cause the state in one part of the system to be different than another part. Consider two rail road cars separated by a untearable bag of air,each car with a force measuring instrument (after all pressure is simply force over an area, right?). Then back an engine into the first car at some rate of speed. The first car will "feel" the impact essential instantaneously over its entire length and the force measuring device on the first car will register the force of the impact. However, at the same instant the force measuring sensor on the second car will register zero force. It will continue to register zero force until the pressure inside the air bag has increased sufficiently ( due to the compression forces) that the compressed air is able to transmit some force to the second car. Yes, eventually, the second car will measure the same force as the first car - but not instantaneous, there will be a delay. Now repeated back up the engine and ram the cars again and again and you have a rather chaotic and dynamic system with the air compressing, collapsing, rebounding, etc. Therefore, you can have two different sections of the liquid (separated by bubble(s)) that see difference forces and therefore pressures varying in a dynamic manner. In a real fuel line the situation is considerably more dynamic than my example. In a fuel line with multiple bubbles the situation can be complex. You have a pump that may be creating bubbles through caviation, you will have some amount of air bubble being re-absorbed back into the fluid, you have bubbles being created by pressure drops through fittings, temperature increases, etc. You may even have a leak that permits air into the system. So depending on the level your are viewing it at -what may appear to be a steady state system is its anything but a steady state system. Air in fluid lines is generally not a good thing - just how bad the effect can - depends on a number of variables. But, if you have had no problems - then I certainly wouldn't worry about all those little bubbles {:>) my 0.02 and I'm off to bed Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Boyd To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 9:28 PM Subject: Re: bubbles and pressure was : RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Pressure Fixed Response delays I'll buy, Ed. In fact, I'll take water-hammer dampeners for $50, please ;-) There may be as many "states of gas that can exist in a liquid" as there are ways to leave your lover, but they are all at the same pressure if they're confined in the same hose - or I live in a parallel universe (a possibility I will disregard for the sake of continuing to fly with you fine friends ;-) -Stormy On 1/28/07, Ed Anderson wrote: I think you are correct, Cappy. There are several states of gas that can exist in a liquid, some which cause worst effects than others, but in any case, they all appear to affect pressure measurements in a line to various degrees. Although, the attached refers to air in a hydraulic system the effects are the same in a pressurized fuel line. Note that bubbles can cause changes in head pressure as well as erroneous measurements and response delays. Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Glasgow To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 8:27 AM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Pressure Fixed What about compressibility of a gas verses a liquid. Water pipes have air trapped in them all the time to prevent hammer effect. The pressure sender is up the line not down the line. Pressure is correct at the engine, just not the pressure sender which is way above the carburetor. You may be correct if the sender is plumbed at the carburetor but mine isn't. All I know is it worked. No more oscillating fuel pressure. Stormy, are you giving us bad coordinates again? Love Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Boyd To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 8:05 AM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Pressure Fixed Smokey, I think the trapped air compresses until it reaches equilib. and then transmits all the pressure on down the line... in doing so it will tend to dampen any pulses (soften the water-hammer effect, what-have-you) but I think all the pressure will show up at the transducer. Enlighten me if I'm overlooking the obvious. It sounds like Cappy might have fixed his gauge but broken some law of physics. Typical Cappy maneuver if you ask me. Today I shall have to see if he messed up Bernouli and Newton's, by seeing if my wing still generates enough lift to fly :-) Cappy, I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't break or damage physical laws that the rest of us use every day, just to get your gauges reading correctly; that's very selfish and won't be tolerated. -Stormy On 1/28/07, Ron Schreck wrote: > > Steve, > > Glad to hear you are back in the air. Actually, your problem and > solution makes perfect sense to me (Monday morning quarterbacking, > however). If your fuel and oil pressure sensors are mounted high on the > firewall, it only makes sense that any air trapped in the lines will > never bleed out (down hill) without some help. True, the trapped air > may transfer some measure of pressure, but being much more compressible > than a liquid it would certainly be a false reading. I think your > solution merits a mention on the RV list and perhaps a suggestion that > these sensors be mounted low on the firewall to avoid the problem > altogether. Nice work, Cappy! > > Smokey > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve > Glasgow > Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 5:13 PM > To: SERV > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Pressure Fixed > > > --> > > Turns out there was apparently air in the line to the sender. Probably > from > lines being open on annual. > > I flew before doing the procedure below and the fuel pressure was all > over > the place. From 4 to 9.5 psi. > > Anyway here is what to do to get the air out. Disconnect wires from > fuel > sender. Loosen sender so it can be moved by hand. Keep sender hand > tight > and turn on electric pump. Now loosen sender till fuel comes out around > the > pipe fitting. Then tighten to stop the fuel from leaking. Turn off > electric pump, secure sender and hook up wires. Done. From now on I > will > do this procedure whenever a fuel line is opened. > > I flew before doing this and the fuel pressure was all over the place. > >From > 4 to 9.5 psi. > > Cappy > > > > > > > -- > 1/26/2007 11:11 AM > > > -- > 1/27/2007 5:02 p; Features Subscriptions href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List"> http://www.mp; available via href="http://forums.matronics.com"> http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List"> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List href="http://forums.matronics.com"> http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Scott Keadle" <scott(at)keadle.com>
Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 13 Msgs - 01/28/07
Date: Jan 29, 2007
I read all these posts on the digest, so sorry for the delay, but I have to add my two cents. Bournelli and Newton, notwithstanding (when we got to railroad cars I was worried Max Planck had entered the fray), the most notable thing in Steve's post was the instruction to disconnect the wires to the transducer and reconnect them. I hate to agree with Boyd, but I think it's either wires or, as James pointed out, an obstruction that was cleared. Scott ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ From: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com> Subject: Re: bubbles and pressure was : RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Pressure Fixed I agree, Stormy, if you have a steady state condition. However, when the system environment is not static but dynamic then you can indeed have fluctuation states that cause the state in one part of the system to be different than another part. Consider two rail road cars separated by a untearable bag of air,each car with a force measuring instrument (after all pressure is simply force over an area, right?). Then back an engine into the first car at some rate of speed. The first car will "feel" the impact essential instantaneously over its entire length and the force measuring device on the first car will register the force of the impact. However, at the same instant the force measuring sensor on the second car will register zero force. It will continue to register zero force until the pressure inside the air bag has increased sufficiently ( due to the compression forces) that the compressed air is able to transmit some force to the second car. Yes, eventually, the second car will measure the same force as the first car - but not instantaneous, there will be a delay. Now repeated back up the engine and ram the cars again and again and you have a rather chaotic and dynamic system with the air compressing, collapsing, rebounding, etc. Therefore, you can have two different sections of the liquid (separated by bubble(s)) that see difference forces and therefore pressures varying in a dynamic manner. In a real fuel line the situation is considerably more dynamic than my example. In a fuel line with multiple bubbles the situation can be complex. You have a pump that may be creating bubbles through caviation, you will have some amount of air bubble being re-absorbed back into the fluid, you have bubbles being created by pressure drops through fittings, temperature increases, etc. You may even have a leak that permits air into the system. So depending on the level your are viewing it at -what may appear to be a steady state system is its anything but a steady state system. Air in fluid lines is generally not a good thing - just how bad the effect can - depends on a number of variables. But, if you have had no problems - then I certainly wouldn't worry about all those little bubbles {:>) my 0.02 and I'm off to bed Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Boyd To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 9:28 PM Subject: Re: bubbles and pressure was : RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Pressure Fixed Response delays I'll buy, Ed. In fact, I'll take water-hammer dampeners for $50, please ;-) There may be as many "states of gas that can exist in a liquid" as there are ways to leave your lover, but they are all at the same pressure if they're confined in the same hose - or I live in a parallel universe (a possibility I will disregard for the sake of continuing to fly with you fine friends ;-) -Stormy On 1/28/07, Ed Anderson wrote: I think you are correct, Cappy. There are several states of gas that can exist in a liquid, some which cause worst effects than others, but in any case, they all appear to affect pressure measurements in a line to various degrees. Although, the attached refers to air in a hydraulic system the effects are the same in a pressurized fuel line. Note that bubbles can cause changes in head pressure as well as erroneous measurements and response delays. Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Glasgow To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 8:27 AM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Pressure Fixed What about compressibility of a gas verses a liquid. Water pipes have air trapped in them all the time to prevent hammer effect. The pressure sender is up the line not down the line. Pressure is correct at the engine, just not the pressure sender which is way above the carburetor. You may be correct if the sender is plumbed at the carburetor but mine isn't. All I know is it worked. No more oscillating fuel pressure. Stormy, are you giving us bad coordinates again? Love Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Boyd To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 8:05 AM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Pressure Fixed Smokey, I think the trapped air compresses until it reaches equilib. and then transmits all the pressure on down the line... in doing so it will tend to dampen any pulses (soften the water-hammer effect, what-have-you) but I think all the pressure will show up at the transducer. Enlighten me if I'm overlooking the obvious. It sounds like Cappy might have fixed his gauge but broken some law of physics. Typical Cappy maneuver if you ask me. Today I shall have to see if he messed up Bernouli and Newton's, by seeing if my wing still generates enough lift to fly :-) Cappy, I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't break or damage physical laws that the rest of us use every day, just to get your gauges reading correctly; that's very selfish and won't be tolerated. -Stormy On 1/28/07, Ron Schreck wrote: > > Steve, > > Glad to hear you are back in the air. Actually, your problem and > solution makes perfect sense to me (Monday morning quarterbacking, > however). If your fuel and oil pressure sensors are mounted high on the > firewall, it only makes sense that any air trapped in the lines will > never bleed out (down hill) without some help. True, the trapped air > may transfer some measure of pressure, but being much more compressible > than a liquid it would certainly be a false reading. I think your > solution merits a mention on the RV list and perhaps a suggestion that > these sensors be mounted low on the firewall to avoid the problem > altogether. Nice work, Cappy! > > Smokey > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve > Glasgow > Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 5:13 PM > To: SERV > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Pressure Fixed > > > --> > > Turns out there was apparently air in the line to the sender. Probably > from > lines being open on annual. > > I flew before doing the procedure below and the fuel pressure was all > over > the place. From 4 to 9.5 psi. > > Anyway here is what to do to get the air out. Disconnect wires from > fuel > sender. Loosen sender so it can be moved by hand. Keep sender hand > tight > and turn on electric pump. Now loosen sender till fuel comes out around > the > pipe fitting. Then tighten to stop the fuel from leaking. Turn off > electric pump, secure sender and hook up wires. Done. From now on I > will > do this procedure whenever a fuel line is opened. > > I flew before doing this and the fuel pressure was all over the place. > >From > 4 to 9.5 psi. > > Cappy ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "bburril" <bburril(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: RE: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 13 Msgs - 01/28/07
Date: Jan 29, 2007
Well thats all it was,two cents worth. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Keadle" <scott(at)keadle.com> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 3:30 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: RE: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 13 Msgs - 01/28/07 > > I read all these posts on the digest, so sorry for the delay, but I have > to > add my two cents. Bournelli and Newton, notwithstanding (when we got to > railroad cars I was worried Max Planck had entered the fray), the most > notable thing in Steve's post was the instruction to disconnect the wires > to > the transducer and reconnect them. I hate to agree with Boyd, but I think > it's either wires or, as James pointed out, an obstruction that was > cleared. > > Scott > > ________________________________ Message 13 > ____________________________________ > > > From: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com> > Subject: Re: bubbles and pressure was : RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Pressure > Fixed > > I agree, Stormy, if you have a steady state condition. However, when > the system environment is not static but dynamic then you can indeed > have fluctuation states that cause the state in one part of the system > to be different than another part. > > Consider two rail road cars separated by a untearable bag of air,each > car with a force measuring instrument (after all pressure is simply > force over an area, right?). Then back an engine into the first car at > some rate of speed. The first car will "feel" the impact essential > instantaneously over its entire length and the force measuring device on > the first car will register the force of the impact. However, at the > same instant the force measuring sensor on the second car will register > zero force. It will continue to register zero force until the pressure > inside the air bag has increased sufficiently ( due to the compression > forces) that the compressed air is able to transmit some force to the > second car. Yes, eventually, the second car will measure the same force > as the first car - but not instantaneous, there will be a delay. Now > repeated back up the engine and ram the cars again and again and you > have a rather chaotic and dynamic system with the air compressing, > collapsing, rebounding, etc. > > Therefore, you can have two different sections of the liquid > (separated by bubble(s)) that see difference forces and therefore > pressures varying in a dynamic manner. In a real fuel line the > situation is considerably more dynamic than my example. > > In a fuel line with multiple bubbles the situation can be complex. You > have a pump that may be creating bubbles through caviation, you will > have some amount of air bubble being re-absorbed back into the fluid, > you have bubbles being created by pressure drops through fittings, > temperature increases, etc. You may even have a leak that permits air > into the system. So depending on the level your are viewing it at -what > may appear to be a steady state system is its anything but a steady > state system. > > Air in fluid lines is generally not a good thing - just how bad the > effect can - depends on a number of variables. > > But, if you have had no problems - then I certainly wouldn't worry about > all those little bubbles {:>) > > my 0.02 and I'm off to bed > > Ed > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bill Boyd > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com > Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 9:28 PM > Subject: Re: bubbles and pressure was : RVSouthEast-List: Fuel > Pressure Fixed > > > Response delays I'll buy, Ed. In fact, I'll take water-hammer > dampeners for $50, please ;-) > > There may be as many "states of gas that can exist in a liquid" as > there are ways to leave your lover, but they are all at the same > pressure if they're confined in the same hose - or I live in a parallel > universe (a possibility I will disregard for the sake of continuing to > fly with you fine friends ;-) > > -Stormy > > > On 1/28/07, Ed Anderson wrote: > I think you are correct, Cappy. There are several states of gas > that can exist in a liquid, some which cause worst effects than others, > but in any case, they all appear to affect pressure measurements in a > line to various degrees. Although, the attached refers to air in a > hydraulic system the effects are the same in a pressurized fuel line. > Note that bubbles can cause changes in head pressure as well as > erroneous measurements and response delays. > > Ed > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Steve Glasgow > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com > Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 8:27 AM > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Pressure Fixed > > > What about compressibility of a gas verses a liquid. Water pipes > have air trapped in them all the time to prevent hammer effect. The > pressure sender is up the line not down the line. Pressure is correct > at the engine, just not the pressure sender which is way above the > carburetor. You may be correct if the sender is plumbed at the > carburetor but mine isn't. All I know is it worked. No more > oscillating fuel pressure. > > Stormy, are you giving us bad coordinates again? > > Love Cappy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bill Boyd > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com > Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 8:05 AM > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Pressure Fixed > > > > > Smokey, > > I think the trapped air compresses until it reaches equilib. and > then > transmits all the pressure on down the line... in doing so it > will > tend to dampen any pulses (soften the water-hammer effect, > what-have-you) but I think all the pressure will show up at the > transducer. Enlighten me if I'm overlooking the obvious. > > It sounds like Cappy might have fixed his gauge but broken some > law of > physics. Typical Cappy maneuver if you ask me. Today I shall > have to > see if he messed up Bernouli and Newton's, by seeing if my wing > still > generates enough lift to fly :-) > > Cappy, I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't break or damage > physical laws > that the rest of us use every day, just to get your gauges > reading > correctly; that's very selfish and won't be tolerated. > > -Stormy > > On 1/28/07, Ron Schreck wrote: > > > > > Steve, > > > > Glad to hear you are back in the air. Actually, your problem > and > > solution makes perfect sense to me (Monday morning > quarterbacking, > > however). If your fuel and oil pressure sensors are mounted > high on the > > firewall, it only makes sense that any air trapped in the > lines will > > never bleed out (down hill) without some help. True, the > trapped air > > may transfer some measure of pressure, but being much more > compressible > > than a liquid it would certainly be a false reading. I think > your > > solution merits a mention on the RV list and perhaps a > suggestion that > > these sensors be mounted low on the firewall to avoid the > problem > > altogether. Nice work, Cappy! > > > > Smokey > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf > Of Steve > > Glasgow > > Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 5:13 PM > > To: SERV > > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Pressure Fixed > > > > > > --> > > > > Turns out there was apparently air in the line to the sender. > Probably > > from > > lines being open on annual. > > > > I flew before doing the procedure below and the fuel pressure > was all > > over > > the place. From 4 to 9.5 psi. > > > > Anyway here is what to do to get the air out. Disconnect > wires from > > fuel > > sender. Loosen sender so it can be moved by hand. Keep sender > hand > > tight > > and turn on electric pump. Now loosen sender till fuel comes > out around > > the > > pipe fitting. Then tighten to stop the fuel from leaking. > Turn off > > electric pump, secure sender and hook up wires. Done. From > now on I > > will > > do this procedure whenever a fuel line is opened. > > > > I flew before doing this and the fuel pressure was all over > the place. > > >From > > 4 to 9.5 psi. > > > > Cappy > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 13 Msgs - 01/28/07
From: "Scott Keadle" <Scott(at)Keadle.com>
Date: Jan 29, 2007
Well Ben, between me and Ed, that's four cents. With another twenty one cents, we could afford "short-time" with your girlfriend. -------- Scott Keadle 14A, Lake Norman Airpark N426AK RV-10, building N180MP G202, flying Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=91441#91441 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "bburril" <bburril(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 13 Msgs - 01/28/07
Date: Jan 29, 2007
Which one, she might be cheaper then that. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Keadle" <Scott(at)Keadle.com> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 7:21 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 13 Msgs - 01/28/07 > > Well Ben, between me and Ed, that's four cents. With another twenty one > cents, we could afford "short-time" with your girlfriend. > > -------- > Scott Keadle > 14A, Lake Norman Airpark > N426AK RV-10, building > N180MP G202, flying > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=91441#91441 > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 30, 2007
From: "Bill Boyd" <sportav8r(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Question for our resident weather-Wizard "Elbow" L.
Bowen Larry- is this how the meteorology game really works? Subject: Preparing For A Cold Winter It was October and the Indians on a remote reservation asked their new Chief if the coming winter was going to be cold or mild. Since he was a Chief in a modern society he had never been taught the old secrets. When he looked at the sky he couldn't tell what the winter was going to be like. Nevertheless, to be on the safe side he told his tribe that the winter was indeed going to be cold and that the members of the village should collect firewood to be prepared. But being a practical leader, after several days he got an idea. He went to a phone booth, called the National Weather Service and asked, "Is the coming winter going to be cold?" "It looks like this winter is going to be quite cold" the meteorologist at the weather service responded. So the Chief went back to his people and told them to collect even more firewood in order to be prepared. A week later he called the National Weather Service again. "Does it still look like it is going to be a very cold winter?" "Yes," the man at the National Weather Service replied, "it's going to be a very cold winter." The Chief again went back to his people and ordered them to collect every scrap of firewood they could find. Two weeks later the Chief called the National Weather Service again. "Are you absolutely sure that the winter is going to be very cold?" "Absolutely," the man replied. "It's looking more and more like it is going to be one of the coldest winters ever." "How can you be so sure?" the Chief asked. The weatherman replied, "The Indians are collecting firewood like crazy." -Stormy ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 30, 2007
Subject: Re: Question for our resident weather-Wizard "Elbow"
L. Bowen
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
LOL...You're on to us! -- Larry Bowen Larry(at)BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com Bill Boyd wrote: > > Larry- is this how the meteorology game really works? > > Subject: Preparing For A Cold Winter > > It was October and the Indians on a remote reservation asked their new > Chief if the coming winter was going to be cold or mild. Since he was > a Chief in a modern society he had never been taught the old secrets. > When he looked at the sky he couldn't tell what the winter was going > to be like. > Nevertheless, to be on the safe side he told his tribe that the winter > was indeed going to be cold and that the members of the village should > collect firewood to be prepared. > But being a practical leader, after several days he got an idea. He > went to a phone booth, called the National Weather Service and asked, > "Is the coming winter going to be cold?" > "It looks like this winter is going to be quite cold" the > meteorologist at the weather service responded. So the Chief went > back to his people and told them to collect even more firewood in > order to be prepared. > A week later he called the National Weather Service again. "Does it > still look like it is going to be a very cold winter?" > "Yes," the man at the National Weather Service replied, "it's going to > be a very cold winter." The Chief again went back to his people and > ordered them to collect every scrap of firewood they could find. > Two weeks later the Chief called the National Weather Service again. > "Are you absolutely sure that the winter is going to be very cold?" > "Absolutely," the man replied. "It's looking more and more like it is > going to be one of the coldest winters ever." > "How can you be so sure?" the Chief asked. > The weatherman replied, "The Indians are collecting firewood like > crazy." > > -Stormy > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Question for our resident weather-Wizard "Elbow"
L. Bowen
Date: Jan 30, 2007
Good one Strormy. Was Larry the WX man? Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Boyd To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 1:11 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Question for our resident weather-Wizard "Elbow" L. Bowen Larry- is this how the meteorology game really works? Subject: Preparing For A Cold Winter It was October and the Indians on a remote reservation asked their new Chief if the coming winter was going to be cold or mild. Since he was a Chief in a modern society he had never been taught the old secrets. When he looked at the sky he couldn't tell what the winter was going to be like. Nevertheless, to be on the safe side he told his tribe that the winter was indeed going to be cold and that the members of the village should collect firewood to be prepared. But being a practical leader, after several days he got an idea. He went to a phone booth, called the National Weather Service and asked, "Is the coming winter going to be cold?" "It looks like this winter is going to be quite cold" the meteorologist at the weather service responded. So the Chief went back to his people and told them to collect even more firewood in order to be prepared. A week later he called the National Weather Service again. "Does it still look like it is going to be a very cold winter?" "Yes," the man at the National Weather Service replied, "it's going to be a very cold winter." The Chief again went back to his people and ordered them to collect every scrap of firewood they could find. Two weeks later the Chief called the National Weather Service again. "Are you absolutely sure that the winter is going to be very cold?" "Absolutely," the man replied. "It's looking more and more like it is going to be one of the coldest winters ever." "How can you be so sure?" the Chief asked. The weatherman replied, "The Indians are collecting firewood like crazy." -Stormy ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 31, 2007
From: "Bill Boyd" <sportav8r(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Fwd: [OhioValleyRVators] Rick Gray's Rocket engine out
! ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Ron Walker <ron(at)walker.net> Date: Jan 31, 2007 5:01 PM Subject: [OhioValleyRVators] Rick Gray's Rocket engine out ! http://www.kgw.com/news-local/stories/kgw_013107_news_plane_down_fairview_.39cfa183.html Seems he went down in that rocket he went out there for ! He walked away though. 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From: "dwmillsap(at)netzero.net" <dwmillsap(at)netzero.net>
Date: Feb 01, 2007
Subject: Re: Rick Gray's Rocket engine out !
Praise the Lord he's okay! Goodness. VERY SCARY. Lori ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 01, 2007
From: "Bert Murillo" <bertrv6(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Lycoming O-320-B3B on ebay
On 1/7/07, cknauf(at)comcast.net wrote: > > There's a Lycoming O-320-B3B for sale on ebay: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=013&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&viewitem=&item=230075395949&rd=1,1 > > *Hi: I am just curious, I have never used Ebay, and since everyday I hear* > > on the radio, horrible stories, about people being rip off, of their money, they never see again.. I do not think I will use that means of selling.. The question I have is, why did you sell that engine, thru them, I am certain that you could have gotten a much more, if you have listed on the Rv-list, and the Rv-south list...$4,000 for an Engine is never heard... I know my friend here in Orlando, bought one a couple years ago, from some in Texas, and paid $10,000, with a higher time than yours? I have an rv6a, and off course, I read the messages posted on both lists... Bert rv6a * > > * > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 02, 2007
From: bill crothers <bill28104(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Lycoming O-320-B3B on ebay
ck. out DC Ace Electronics-847-821-8122 for ICOM BATTS. $57-67 @. --- Bert Murillo wrote: > On 1/7/07, cknauf(at)comcast.net > wrote: > > > > There's a Lycoming O-320-B3B for sale on ebay: > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=013&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&viewitem=&item=230075395949&rd=1,1 > > > > *Hi: I am just curious, I have never used Ebay, > and since everyday I hear* > > > > on the radio, horrible stories, about > people being rip off, of > their money, they never see again.. > I do not think I will use that means of > selling.. > > The question I have is, why did you > sell that engine, thru > them, I am certain that you could > have gotten a much more, if you have > listed on the Rv-list, and > the Rv-south list...$4,000 for > an Engine is never heard... I know my friend > here in Orlando, bought > one a couple years ago, > from some in Texas, and paid $10,000, > with a higher time than > yours? > > I have an rv6a, and off course, I read > the messages posted on > both lists... > > Bert > rv6a > > > > * > > > > * > > > > > Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. http://games.yahoo.com/games/front ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 02, 2007
From: bill crothers <bill28104(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: funny squawk of the day.
Problem-Evidence of leak on right main gear. Solution- Evidence removed. Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Fuel Pressure
Date: Feb 03, 2007
Here are the numbers using the Direct Reading Gauge with all air bled from the lines. Electric Pump on. Engine not running: 4.7 Electric Pump on, Engine Idle: 6.0 Electric pump off, Engine Idle: 5.3 1700 RPM Electric pump on: 5.0 1700 RPM Electric pump off: 5.0 I actually bought a new sender because one read approximately 3.0 and the other read approximately 7.0. The new one reads 5.0 to 6.0 with all air bled from the lines. Very stable with minor fluctuations. I'm told by Lycoming that the correct fuel pressure is form 3.0 to 8.0. So this is as close as it going to get. Cappy's Toy is, and was A OK. Thanks Randy for your help. Also past elevator trim problems (electric trim jamming) was fixed on the January Annual by changing the relay deck. If anyone wants to borrow the direct fuel pressure gage, just let me know. That includes Stormy, who may want to do some experiments. Cappy ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Fuel Pressure
Date: Feb 03, 2007
Annual by changing the relay deck. > > If anyone wants to borrow the direct fuel pressure gage, just let me know. > That includes Stormy, who may want to do > some experiments. > > Cappy Thats thoughtful of you Cappy, I was wondering where Stromy was going to get two railroad cars{:>) Ed > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "tadsargent" <tadsargent(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Fuel Pressure
Date: Feb 03, 2007
Way to go dude. Did you get your #$%^#$^ computer fixed. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 1:44 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Pressure > > > Here are the numbers using the Direct Reading Gauge with all air bled from > the lines. > > Electric Pump on. Engine not running: 4.7 > Electric Pump on, Engine Idle: 6.0 > Electric pump off, Engine Idle: 5.3 > 1700 RPM Electric pump on: 5.0 > 1700 RPM Electric pump off: 5.0 > > I actually bought a new sender because one read approximately 3.0 and the > other read approximately 7.0. > > The new one reads 5.0 to 6.0 with all air bled from the lines. Very > stable with minor fluctuations. > > I'm told by Lycoming that the correct fuel pressure is form 3.0 to 8.0. > So this is as close as it going to get. > > Cappy's Toy is, and was A OK. Thanks Randy for your help. > > Also past elevator trim problems (electric trim jamming) was fixed on the > January Annual by changing the relay deck. > > If anyone wants to borrow the direct fuel pressure gage, just let me know. > That includes Stormy, who may want to do > some experiments. > > Cappy > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Fuel Pressure
Date: Feb 03, 2007
Yes the computer is running like an RV. Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: tadsargent To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 6:16 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Pressure Way to go dude. Did you get your #$%^#$^ computer fixed. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com> To: "SERV" Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 1:44 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Pressure > > > Here are the numbers using the Direct Reading Gauge with all air bled from > the lines. > > Electric Pump on. Engine not running: 4.7 > Electric Pump on, Engine Idle: 6.0 > Electric pump off, Engine Idle: 5.3 > 1700 RPM Electric pump on: 5.0 > 1700 RPM Electric pump off: 5.0 > > I actually bought a new sender because one read approximately 3.0 and the > other read approximately 7.0. > > The new one reads 5.0 to 6.0 with all air bled from the lines. Very > stable with minor fluctuations. > > I'm told by Lycoming that the correct fuel pressure is form 3.0 to 8.0. > So this is as close as it going to get. > > Cappy's Toy is, and was A OK. Thanks Randy for your help. > > Also past elevator trim problems (electric trim jamming) was fixed on the > January Annual by changing the relay deck. > > If anyone wants to borrow the direct fuel pressure gage, just let me know. > That includes Stormy, who may want to do > some experiments. > > Cappy > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 04, 2007
From: "Bill Boyd" <sportav8r(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Fuel Pressure
I'll take you up on that, Cap, when warmer wx arrives and it's time to start the new panel swap-out. Looking forward to lots of down-time then ;-( -Stormy On 2/3/07, Ed Anderson wrote: > > Annual by changing the relay deck. > > > > If anyone wants to borrow the direct fuel pressure gage, just let me know. > > That includes Stormy, who may want to do > > some experiments. > > > > Cappy > > > Thats thoughtful of you Cappy, I was wondering where Stromy was going to > get two railroad cars{:>) > > Ed > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Fuel Pressure
Date: Feb 04, 2007
Just say when. Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Boyd To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 8:21 AM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Pressure I'll take you up on that, Cap, when warmer wx arrives and it's time to start the new panel swap-out. Looking forward to lots of down-time then ;-( -Stormy On 2/3/07, Ed Anderson wrote: > > Annual by changing the relay deck. > > > > If anyone wants to borrow the direct fuel pressure gage, just let me know. > > That includes Stormy, who may want to do > > some experiments. > > > > Cappy > > > > Thats thoughtful of you Cappy, I was wondering where Stromy was going to > get two railroad cars{:>) > > Ed > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: <127rs(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject:
Date: Feb 04, 2007
I have an used piper 150 exhaust system for sale. Located in Aiken, sc ray 803 640 2026 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 07, 2007
From: MauleDriver <MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com>
Subject: The RV Smile - continued
On Saturday, January 27th, RV4 pilot Jack Phillips took RV10 builder, Bill Watson, for his first ride in an RV at Lake Ridge Airport, Durham NC. The aircraft performed as designed, the pilot flew the aircraft with a high degree proficiency, and an RV smile was firmly planted on both the face and mind of the passenger. A little stick time for the pedal-less rear seat passenger only served to deepen the smile. It has been noted that an RV10 doesn't fly like an RV4 (neither do Maules or Pietenpols for that matter). Nonetheless, riveting has resumed with increased vigor at the Lake Ridge birthplace of #40605. Thank You Jack Phillips for passing on the Smile. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Dale Ensing" <densing(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Aeroshell grease
Date: Feb 09, 2007
I need to purchase a tube of Aeroshell #5 or #6 grease for my Hartzell CS prop. My Aeroshell oil supplier in Charlotte only sells it in a case of 10 tubes. Where have others been buying it? Dale Ensing ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Lenleg(at)aol.com
Date: Feb 09, 2007
Subject: Re: Aeroshell grease
I ordered it from Aircraft Spruce. Len ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Dale Ensing" <densing(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Aeroshell grease
Date: Feb 09, 2007
Thanks Len I had checked their catalog but it is not shown. I'll try online. Dale ----- Original Message ----- From: Lenleg(at)aol.com To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 6:51 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: Aeroshell grease I ordered it from Aircraft Spruce. Len ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Aeroshell grease
Date: Feb 09, 2007
Spruce. Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: Dale Ensing To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 6:21 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Re: Aeroshell grease I need to purchase a tube of Aeroshell #5 or #6 grease for my Hartzell CS prop. My Aeroshell oil supplier in Charlotte only sells it in a case of 10 tubes. Where have others been buying it? Dale Ensing ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 10, 2007
Subject: Sunday?
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
Anything going on Sunday? Lunch somewhere? -- Larry Bowen, RV-8 @ 8A7 Larry(at)BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Dale Ensing" <densing(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: lube Hartzell CS prop
Date: Feb 12, 2007
According the Hartzell propeller owner's manual, Aeroshell grease 5 and 6 can be mixed. My prop came with #6 but it has less stability at temps over 100F while #5 is not to be used at temps below -40F. Since we are in the warmer climate with the prop seeing 100F occasionally on the ramp and since I am turning into a warm weather wimp with no plans to ever again fly at temps below the teensF, I have been considering switching to #5 and was wondering which grease other Southeasterners are using in their Hartzell CS props? Appreciate your input. Dale ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 12, 2007
Subject: Re: lube Hartzell CS prop
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
I'm using #6 on the prop and haven't noticed any issues with it. Since the prop is the only grease consuming thing on my plane that requires a specific grease, I've adopted #6 as the standard for use on the whole plane, ie, bearings, etc. Keeps things simple. If anyone knows of a reason why this might be a poor idea, speak up. Thanks. -- Larry Bowen Larry(at)BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com Dale Ensing wrote: > According the Hartzell propeller owner's manual, Aeroshell grease 5 and 6 > can be mixed. My prop came with #6 but it has less stability at temps over > 100F while #5 is not to be used at temps below -40F. Since we are in the > warmer climate with the prop seeing 100F occasionally on the ramp and > since I am turning into a warm weather wimp with no plans to ever again > fly at temps below the teensF, I have been considering switching to #5 and > was wondering which grease other Southeasterners are using in their > Hartzell CS props? > > Appreciate your input. > Dale ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 12, 2007
From: Rad Z <microsmurfer(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: lube Hartzell CS prop
Speaking of Aeroshell... skygeek has 'em at 1/2 price (compared to spruce): #5 http://www.skygeek.com/70025.html ($4.32) #6 http://www.skygeek.com/70026.html ($3.88) It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 12, 2007
From: "Ken Harrill" <rkharr(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: lube Hartzell CS prop
My prop came from the prop shop with #5 and I have adopted it as the standard for use on the whole plane, as Larry has done with #6. Ken Harrill On 2/12/07, Larry Bowen wrote: > > > > > I'm using #6 on the prop and haven't noticed any issues with it. > > Since the prop is the only grease consuming thing on my plane that > requires a specific grease, I've adopted #6 as the standard for use on the > whole plane, ie, bearings, etc. Keeps things simple. If anyone knows of > a reason why this might be a poor idea, speak up. Thanks. > > -- > Larry Bowen > Larry(at)BowenAero.com > http://BowenAero.com > > Dale Ensing wrote: > > According the Hartzell propeller owner's manual, Aeroshell grease 5 and > 6 > > can be mixed. My prop came with #6 but it has less stability at temps > over > > 100F while #5 is not to be used at temps below -40F. Since we are in the > > warmer climate with the prop seeing 100F occasionally on the ramp and > > since I am turning into a warm weather wimp with no plans to ever again > > fly at temps below the teensF, I have been considering switching to #5 > and > > was wondering which grease other Southeasterners are using in their > > Hartzell CS props? > > > > Appreciate your input. > > Dale > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: lube Hartzell CS prop
Date: Feb 12, 2007
Can you find any # 5.5? Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: Dale Ensing To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 12:06 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: lube Hartzell CS prop According the Hartzell propeller owner's manual, Aeroshell grease 5 and 6 can be mixed. My prop came with #6 but it has less stability at temps over 100F while #5 is not to be used at temps below -40F. Since we are in the warmer climate with the prop seeing 100F occasionally on the ramp and since I am turning into a warm weather wimp with no plans to ever again fly at temps below the teensF, I have been considering switching to #5 and was wondering which grease other Southeasterners are using in their Hartzell CS props? Appreciate your input. Dale ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "tadsargent" <tadsargent(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: lube Hartzell CS prop
Date: Feb 12, 2007
Dale, mix the 5 with the 6 and get 5.5 this should be a good all aroung Grease. Stripes ----- Original Message ----- From: Dale Ensing To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 12:06 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: lube Hartzell CS prop According the Hartzell propeller owner's manual, Aeroshell grease 5 and 6 can be mixed. My prop came with #6 but it has less stability at temps over 100F while #5 is not to be used at temps below -40F. Since we are in the warmer climate with the prop seeing 100F occasionally on the ramp and since I am turning into a warm weather wimp with no plans to ever again fly at temps below the teensF, I have been considering switching to #5 and was wondering which grease other Southeasterners are using in their Hartzell CS props? Appreciate your input. Dale ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Dale Ensing" <densing(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: lube Hartzell CS prop
Date: Feb 12, 2007
That 's what I'll have if I start using the # 5 for routine maintenance on top of the # 6 that it came with. ----- Original Message ----- From: tadsargent To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 6:55 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: lube Hartzell CS prop Dale, mix the 5 with the 6 and get 5.5 this should be a good all aroung Grease. Stripes ----- Original Message ----- From: Dale Ensing To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 12:06 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: lube Hartzell CS prop According the Hartzell propeller owner's manual, Aeroshell grease 5 and 6 can be mixed. My prop came with #6 but it has less stability at temps over 100F while #5 is not to be used at temps below -40F. Since we are in the warmer climate with the prop seeing 100F occasionally on the ramp and since I am turning into a warm weather wimp with no plans to ever again fly at temps below the teensF, I have been considering switching to #5 and was wondering which grease other Southeasterners are using in their Hartzell CS props? Appreciate your input. Dale href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.m atronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Dale Ensing" <densing(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: lube Hartzell CS prop
Date: Feb 12, 2007
Thanks Radomir. Have you purchase from them before? Dale ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rad Z" <microsmurfer(at)yahoo.com> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 1:02 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: lube Hartzell CS prop > > Speaking of Aeroshell... skygeek has 'em at 1/2 price (compared to > spruce): > > #5 http://www.skygeek.com/70025.html ($4.32) > > #6 http://www.skygeek.com/70026.html ($3.88) > > > It's here! Your new message! > Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Radomir Zaric" <vitez(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: lube Hartzell CS prop
Date: Feb 12, 2007
Yes, bought a bunch of stuff from them.. reputable place.. with generally good prices.. quick shipping too. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dale Ensing Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 7:37 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: lube Hartzell CS prop Thanks Radomir. Have you purchase from them before? Dale ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Bret Smith" <smithhb(at)tds.net>
Subject: lube Hartzell CS prop
Date: Feb 12, 2007
Sky geek is who I purchase my Semco disposable cartridges from. Great service. Bret Smith RV-9A (91314) Mineral Bluff, GA www.FlightInnovations.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dale Ensing Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 7:37 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: lube Hartzell CS prop --> Thanks Radomir. Have you purchase from them before? Dale ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rad Z" <microsmurfer(at)yahoo.com> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 1:02 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: lube Hartzell CS prop > > Speaking of Aeroshell... skygeek has 'em at 1/2 price (compared to > spruce): > > #5 http://www.skygeek.com/70025.html ($4.32) > > #6 http://www.skygeek.com/70026.html ($3.88) > > > It's here! Your new message! > Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 13, 2007
From: "Patty Hamilton" <PGILLIES(at)gwm.sc.edu>
Subject: 4th Annual Palmetto Wing Fly-in April 7
The Palmetto Wing of Vans Air Force Invites any and all RV pilots/flyers/builders, EAA members To the fourth annual PALMETTO RV FLYIN COOKOUT Saturday, April 7th No Rain date since Sunday is Easter (If it rains we will be eating a lot of hamburger) Columbia Downtown Owens Field Airport Columbia, SC Palmetto Burgers and Carolina Dogs Grills will be fired up at 11:00 AM No Program No Vendors No Speeches No Organization No Charge (Donations Accepted for EAA Chapter 242) Just good food, RVs, and friendly conversation. www.airnav.com/airport/KCUB Note right traffic for runway 13 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: luckymacy(at)comcast.net (lucky)
Subject: lube Hartzell CS prop
Date: Feb 13, 2007
Because of this thread, I ordered #6 grease from them yesterday, afternoon to be more precise, and a box was on my doorstep this afternoon. I chose the cheapest mailing option since I was in no hurry at all. $10.79 total. 24 hour order to delivery. Wow, if Van's Aircraft or Dell with my Vista OS upgrade were only even remotely close to that.... ;-) -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Bret Smith" <smithhb(at)tds.net> > > Sky geek is who I purchase my Semco disposable cartridges from. Great > service. > > > Bret Smith > RV-9A (91314) > Mineral Bluff, GA > www.FlightInnovations.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dale > Ensing > Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 7:37 PM > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: lube Hartzell CS prop > > --> > > Thanks Radomir. Have you purchase from them before? > Dale > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rad Z" > To: > Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 1:02 PM > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: lube Hartzell CS prop > > > > > > Speaking of Aeroshell... skygeek has 'em at 1/2 price (compared to > > spruce): > > > > #5 http://www.skygeek.com/70025.html ($4.32) > > > > #6 http://www.skygeek.com/70026.html ($3.88) > > > > > > > > It's here! Your new message! > > Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. > > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Because of this thread, I ordered #6 grease from them yesterday, afternoon to be more precise, and a box was on my doorstep this afternoon. I chose the cheapest mailing option since I was in no hurry at all. $10.79 total. 24 hour order to delivery. Wow, if Van's Aircraft or Dell with my Vista OS upgrade were only even remotely close to that.... ;-)

<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- From: "Bret Smith" <smithhb(at)tds.net> > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Bret Smith" <SMITHHB(at)TDS.NET> > > Sky geek is who I purchase my Semco disposable cartridges from. Great > service. > > > Bret Smith > RV-9A (91314) > Mineral Bluff, GA > www.FlightInnovations.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dale > Ensing > Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 7:37 PM > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: lube Hartzell CS prop > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing" > --> <DENSING(at)CAROLINA.RR.COM> > > Than ks Rad omir. Have you purchase from them before? > Dale > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rad Z" <MICROSMURFER@YAHOO.COM> > To: <RVSOUTHEAST-LIST@MATRONICS.COM> > Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 1:02 PM > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: lube Hartzell CS prop > > > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Rad Z <MICROSMURFER@YAHOO.COM> > > > > Speaking of Aeroshell... skygeek has 'em at 1/2 price (compared to > > spruce): > > > > #5 http://www.skygeek.com/70025.html ($4.32) > > > > #6 http://www.skygeek.com/70026.html ($3.88) > > > > > > > > It's here! Your new message! > > Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. > > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > &g t;

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From: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Test 1, 2 , 3
Date: Feb 17, 2007
Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Lenleg(at)aol.com
Date: Feb 18, 2007
Subject: Baffling/Air Seal
Guys: I am replacing the air seal fabric ... which way does your front material lay ... toward the prop or back toward the engine ? Have heard different opinions .... Len ________________________________________________________________________________
From: N8391Mike(at)aol.com
Date: Feb 18, 2007
Subject: Re: Baffling/Air Seal
back toward the engine where the air pressure is. andre ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 18, 2007
From: bill crothers <bill28104(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Baffling/Air Seal
mine lays back...RR --- Lenleg(at)aol.com wrote: > Guys: > > I am replacing the air seal fabric ... which way > does your front material > lay ... toward the prop or back toward the engine ? > Have heard different > opinions .... > > Len > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "GARRY BROWN" <brown.garry(at)worldnet.att.net>
Subject: May Fly-in at Stag Park
Date: Feb 18, 2007
EAA Chapter 297's annual Spring Fly-In will be Saturday, May 12th, 2007 at Stag Air Park (7NC1), Burgaw, North Carolina. Come and spend the day. Shoot the bull with your buddies. Talk airplanes. See antiques, homebuilts, spam cans, and who knows what else. 3800' of very smooth sod. Traffic advisories on 122.9. 100LL available. Line boy Vernon Pitts will wash your windshield and check your tires. See www.airnav.com/airport/7NC1 for detailed airport information and www.eaa297.org/flyins.htm for a poster or updates. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "tadsargent" <tadsargent(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Baffling/Air Seal
Date: Feb 19, 2007
Always inside to keep the air in. ----- Original Message ----- From: Lenleg(at)aol.com To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 1:32 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Baffling/Air Seal Guys: I am replacing the air seal fabric ... which way does your front material lay ... toward the prop or back toward the engine ? Have heard different opinions .... Len ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 02/18/07
From: lee.logan(at)gulfstream.com
Date: Feb 19, 2007
Garry: Sounds like your event will be a lot of fun. I'm sorry to see it conflicts with the "Race to Ridgeland", so a few of us who might have been able to come up from southern South Carolina may not be able to make it. That is prime "flying time" during the summer, isn't it? Sorry, we can't be there! Have fun!! Lee... Lee Logan Government Programs and Sales Support Gulfstream Aerospace Corporation Savannah, Georgia This e-mail message, including all attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain legally privileged and confidential information. If you are not an intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have either received this message in error or through interception, and that any review, use, distribution, copying or disclosure of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited and is subject to criminal and civil penalties. All personal messages express solely the sender's views and not those of Gulfstream Aerospace Corporation. If you received this message in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 19, 2007
From: bill crothers <bill28104(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 02/18/07
BTW Lee...I think that is the wkend of our formation clinic in WVA, so the Palmetto flt may miss as well. Reno --- lee.logan(at)gulfstream.com wrote: > lee.logan(at)gulfstream.com > > Garry: Sounds like your event will be a lot of fun. > I'm sorry to see it > conflicts with the "Race to Ridgeland", so a few of > us who might have been > able to come up from southern South Carolina may not > be able to make it. > That is prime "flying time" during the summer, isn't > it? Sorry, we can't > be there! Have fun!! > > Lee... > > Lee Logan > Government Programs and Sales Support > Gulfstream Aerospace Corporation > Savannah, Georgia > > > This e-mail message, including all attachments, is > for the sole use of the > intended recipient(s) and may contain legally > privileged and confidential > information. If you are not an intended recipient, > you are hereby notified > that you have either received this message in error > or through > interception, and that any review, use, > distribution, copying or disclosure > of this message or its attachments is strictly > prohibited and is subject to > criminal and civil penalties. All personal messages > express solely the > sender's views and not those of Gulfstream Aerospace > Corporation. If you > received this message in error, please contact the > sender by reply e-mail > and destroy all copies of the original message. > > > > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List > > Web Forums! > > > > > We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/265 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Radomir Zaric" <vitez(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: wow
Date: Feb 19, 2007
Watching a turboprop do a short field night landing at Goose Creek with no runway lights was awesome. just two guys with red flashlights on each side of the runway as markers.. I was gonna ask one of them what was going on, but when I saw an automatic weapon across his chest, I just started backtracking into the hangar J It was a cool thing to see! Too bad it was so dark we couldn't see what kind of a plane it was. I'm guessing PC-6 out of Pope? ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: wow
From: "David Lee" <odlee(at)bellsouth.net>
Date: Feb 19, 2007
Careful Rad, They were looking for secret agent Sargent. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p'191#96191 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
Subject: Re: wow
Date: Feb 19, 2007
It was probably Col. Sargent piloting the plane! Rad, your project is at the airport now? - Larry Bowen Larry(at)BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com > -----Original Message----- > From: David Lee [mailto:odlee(at)bellsouth.net] > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 10:04 PM > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Re: wow > > --> > > Careful Rad, They were looking for secret agent Sargent. > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p'191#96191 > > > > > > > > Photoshare, and much much more: > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 19, 2007
From: "Bill Boyd" <sportav8r(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: wow
More like a PC-6 full of dope... (What's a PC-6, anyway?) Sounds like an interesting story; strange goings-on. -Stormy On 2/19/07, Radomir Zaric wrote: > > > Watching a turboprop do a short field night landing at Goose Creek with no > runway lights was awesome just two guys with red flashlights on each side > of the runway as markers.. I was gonna ask one of them what was going on, > but when I saw an automatic weapon across his chest, I just started > backtracking into the hangar J > > > It was a cool thing to see! Too bad it was so dark we couldn't see what > kind of a plane it was I'm guessing PC-6 out of Pope? > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Radomir Zaric" <vitez(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: wow
Date: Feb 19, 2007
We were working on Tad's plane.. conditional inspection time.. Mine's still in the garage (another few months). Stormy, I'm guessing it was a Pilatus PC-6.. at least that's what it seemed to be (a large turboprop taildragger).. but it was way too dark to tell for sure. PS. There was a lot of shooting going on at the airport (blanks, of course) prior to arrival of that plane.. a few of those guys were hiding between hangars.. looked like a movie. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Bowen Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 11:05 PM Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Re: wow It was probably Col. Sargent piloting the plane! Rad, your project is at the airport now? - Larry Bowen Larry(at)BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 19, 2007
From: "James Clark" <jclarkmail(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: wow
Sometimes "special" groups get permission from the owner of fields with certain characteristics to do some "practice". The automatic was probably very much loaded. And the odds are very good that these were NOT the "bad guys". In such cases, they really don't want disruptions, I would say. :-) You probably did the right thing. :-) :-) James On 2/19/07, Radomir Zaric wrote: > > Watching a turboprop do a short field night landing at Goose Creek with > no runway lights was awesome=85 just two guys with red flashlights on eac h > side of the runway as markers.. I was gonna ask one of them what was goin g > on, but when I saw an automatic weapon across his chest, I just started > backtracking into the hangar J > > > It was a cool thing to see! Too bad it was so dark we couldn't see what > kind of a plane it was=85 I'm guessing PC-6 out of Pope? > > > * > =========== =========== =========== > > * > > -- This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at james(at)nextupventures.com . ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Dale Ensing" <densing(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: wow
Date: Feb 20, 2007
Air America! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Radomir Zaric" <vitez(at)carolina.rr.com> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 11:42 PM Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Re: wow > > > We were working on Tad's plane.. conditional inspection time.. Mine's > still > in the garage (another few months). > > Stormy, I'm guessing it was a Pilatus PC-6.. at least that's what it > seemed > to be (a large turboprop taildragger).. but it was way too dark to tell > for > sure. > > PS. There was a lot of shooting going on at the airport (blanks, of > course) > prior to arrival of that plane.. a few of those guys were hiding between > hangars.. looked like a movie. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry > Bowen > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 11:05 PM > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Re: wow > > > > It was probably Col. Sargent piloting the plane! > > Rad, your project is at the airport now? > > - > Larry Bowen > Larry(at)BowenAero.com > http://BowenAero.com > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Lenleg(at)aol.com
Date: Feb 20, 2007
Subject: Re: wow
Okay ... we were hoping not to get caught ... I am starring in a new movie to be released in the summer ... lot of stunts involving airplanes ... of course ... I do my own stunts. Sorry to scare you Rad .. that was my body guard with the gun !! Len In a message dated 2/19/2007 11:45:25 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jclarkmail(at)gmail.com writes: Sometimes "special" groups get permission from the owner of fields with certain characteristics to do some "practice". The automatic was probably ve ry much loaded. And the odds are very good that these were NOT the "bad guys". In such cases, they really don't want disruptions, I would say. :-) You probably did the right thing. :-) :-) James On 2/19/07, Radomir Zaric <_vitez(at)carolina.rr.com_ (mailto:vitez(at)carolina.rr.com) > wrote: Watching a turboprop do a short field night landing at Goose Creek with no runway lights was awesome just two guys with red flashlights on eac h side of the runway as markers.. I was gonna ask one of them what was going on, but when I saw an automatic weapon across his chest, I just started backtrackin g into the hangar J It was a cool thing to see! Too bad it was so dark we couldn't see what kind of a plane it was I'm guessing PC-6 out of Pope? ronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List k" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> http://forums.matronics.com ========== -- This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at _james(at)nextupventures.com_ (mailto:james(at)nextupventures.com) . (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List) ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 20, 2007
From: "Bill Boyd" <sportav8r(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: wow
>>It was probably Col. Sargent piloting the plane!<< Don't tell anyone, but he's actually Agent Orange. -S On 2/19/07, Radomir Zaric wrote: > > We were working on Tad's plane.. conditional inspection time.. Mine's still > in the garage (another few months). > > Stormy, I'm guessing it was a Pilatus PC-6.. at least that's what it seemed > to be (a large turboprop taildragger).. but it was way too dark to tell for > sure. > > PS. There was a lot of shooting going on at the airport (blanks, of course) > prior to arrival of that plane.. a few of those guys were hiding between > hangars.. looked like a movie. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry > Bowen > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 11:05 PM > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Re: wow > > > It was probably Col. Sargent piloting the plane! > > Rad, your project is at the airport now? > > - > Larry Bowen > Larry(at)BowenAero.com > http://BowenAero.com > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Bill Repucci" <bill(at)repucci.com>
Subject: wow
Date: Feb 20, 2007
Rad, You should have called the FBI and 911. It would have been interesting when the guys with the real guns showed up. Bill -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Boyd Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 11:18 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: wow --> More like a PC-6 full of dope... (What's a PC-6, anyway?) Sounds like an interesting story; strange goings-on. -Stormy On 2/19/07, Radomir Zaric wrote: > > > Watching a turboprop do a short field night landing at Goose Creek > with no runway lights was awesome. just two guys with red flashlights > on each side of the runway as markers.. I was gonna ask one of them > what was going on, but when I saw an automatic weapon across his > chest, I just started backtracking into the hangar J > > > It was a cool thing to see! Too bad it was so dark we couldn't see > what kind of a plane it was. I'm guessing PC-6 out of Pope? > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 20, 2007
From: "Bill Boyd" <sportav8r(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: wow
Like the stunt you did last summer with the new wheel pants? On 2/20/07, Lenleg(at)aol.com wrote: > > > Okay ... we were hoping not to get caught ... I am starring in a new movie > to be released in the summer ... lot of stunts involving airplanes ... of > course ... I do my own stunts. Sorry to scare you Rad .. that was my body > guard with the gun !! > > Len > > > In a message dated 2/19/2007 11:45:25 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > jclarkmail(at)gmail.com writes: > Sometimes "special" groups get permission from the owner of fields with > certain characteristics to do some "practice". The automatic was probably > very much loaded. And the odds are very good that these were NOT the "bad > guys". > > In such cases, they really don't want disruptions, I would say. :-) > > You probably did the right thing. :-) :-) > > James > > > On 2/19/07, Radomir Zaric wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Watching a turboprop do a short field night landing at Goose Creek with no > runway lights was awesome just two guys with red flashlights on each side > of the runway as markers.. I was gonna ask one of them what was going on, > but when I saw an automatic weapon across his chest, I just started > backtracking into the hangar J > > > > > > > > > > > > It was a cool thing to see! Too bad it was so dark we couldn't see what > kind of a plane it was I'm guessing PC-6 out of Pope? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List" target="_blank" > onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List > > k" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> > > http://forums.matronics.com > > ========== > > > > > > > > > -- > This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at > james(at)nextupventures.com . > > > t > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List > .matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Lenleg(at)aol.com
Date: Feb 21, 2007
Subject: This Saturday's i39, Richmond, Madison Flyin is ON
suZ5PJMhdvZJYxqHp664AFHRpV06cYV1Qw8x47z-- ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: This Saturday's i39, Richmond, Madison Flyin is
ON
Date: Feb 21, 2007
There you go again, Len. At least wait until the weekend - Oh, you'll be flying then, well guess now is Ok then {:>) Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: <Lenleg(at)aol.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 6:08 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: This Saturday's i39, Richmond, Madison Flyin is ON > suZ5PJMhdvZJYxqHp664AFHRpV06cYV1Qw8x47z-- > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Lenleg(at)aol.com
Date: Feb 21, 2007
Subject: Re: This Saturday's i39, Richmond, Madison Flyin is
ON Has to be something with AOL ... I copied and pasted the message .... sent it and it turns into garbage ?? Len In a message dated 2/21/2007 6:26:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com writes: --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson" There you go again, Len. At least wait until the weekend - Oh, you'll be flying then, well guess now is Ok then {:>) Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: <Lenleg(at)aol.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 6:08 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: This Saturday's i39, Richmond, Madison Flyin is ON > suZ5PJMhdvZJYxqHp664AFHRpV06cYV1Qw8x47z-- > > >

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From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
Subject: This Saturday's i39, Richmond, Madison Flyin is
ON
Date: Feb 21, 2007
I was thinking I would, but at this point it looks like we are flying to SC to visit family instead. Have fun. - Larry Bowen Larry(at)BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Boyd [mailto:sportav8r(at)gmail.com] > Is there a gaggle to Dana's Hooter-ville convention? I might > possibly join in. > > -Stormy ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 27, 2007
From: N986T <n986t(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: RV-6 Transition
Gentlemen, I'm looking for a few ideas on RV-6 transition training. I am a 750hr tailwheel pilot (mostly RANS S-6 and S-7's with a sprinkling of complex GA time here & there) considering an RV and am interested in hearing how others have done it locally. Most appreciative of any and all suggestions. Best, dc =============== DOUGLAS R. CARROLL RANS S-7S N986T --------------------------------- Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Yahoo! Answers. Try it now. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 27, 2007
From: John S Cargill <sportflying(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: RV-6 Transition
Where are you located We build RVs and can help you locate and help in transition training N986T wrote: Gentlemen, I'm looking for a few ideas on RV-6 transition training. I am a 750hr tailwheel pilot (mostly RANS S-6 and S-7's with a sprinkling of complex GA time here & there) considering an RV and am interested in hearing how others have done it locally. Most appreciative of any and all suggestions. Best, dc =============== DOUGLAS R. CARROLL RANS S-7S N986T --------------------------------- Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Yahoo! Answers. Try it now. John S Cargill 919 605 8222 Let Us Make Your Experimental Dreams Come True www.2bumsaircraft.com ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 27, 2007
Subject: Re: RV-6 Transition
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
The RV-7 training I received from Alex D. in Texas and the local Super Decathlon both left me well prepared for the RV-8, IMO. Sounds like you are already 90% there... -- Larry Bowen Larry(at)BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com N986T wrote: > Gentlemen, > > I'm looking for a few ideas on RV-6 transition training. I am a 750hr > tailwheel pilot (mostly RANS S-6 and S-7's with a sprinkling of complex > GA time here & there) considering an RV and am interested in hearing how > others have done it locally. Most appreciative of any and all > suggestions. > > Best, > > dc > > > ============== > DOUGLAS R. CARROLL > RANS S-7S > N986T > > > --------------------------------- > Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Yahoo! Answers. Try it now. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 28, 2007
From: N986T <n986t(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast- RV Transition
John, Thanks. I'm in Concord NC (vic JQF). Looking at completed RVs at present. dc ______________________ Message 4___________________________________ From: John S Cargill Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: RV-6 Transition Where are you located We build RVs and can help you locate and help in transition training N986T wrote: Gentlemen, I'm looking for a few ideas on RV-6 transition training. I am a 750hr tailwheel pilot (mostly RANS S-6 and S-7's with a sprinkling of complex GA time here & there) considering an RV and am interested in hearing how others have done it locally. Most appreciative of any and all suggestions. Best, dc --------------------------------- Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 28, 2007
From: N986T <n986t(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: RV Pre-buy checklist
Narrowing down my list of potential aircraft for acquisition and am about to begin looking at a few completed RVs in person. Would appreciate hearing from any here on the RV-specific items I should definitely pay attention to when separating the wheat from the chaff. Any common gotchas? Typical indicators of quality? Thanks, dc =============== DOUGLAS R. CARROLL RANS S-7S N986T --------------------------------- Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 28, 2007
From: John S Cargill <sportflying(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast- RV Transition
We could have the RV7 of your dreams finished in 6 months to your specs and you could be the builder N986T wrote: John, Thanks. I'm in Concord NC (vic JQF). Looking at completed RVs at present. dc ______________________ Message 4___________________________________ From: John S Cargill Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: RV-6 Transition Where are you located We build RVs and can help you locate and help in transition training N986T wrote: Gentlemen, I'm looking for a few ideas on RV-6 transition training. I am a 750hr tailwheel pilot (mostly RANS S-6 and S-7's with a sprinkling of complex GA time here & there) considering an RV and am interested in hearing how others have done it locally. Most appreciative of any and all suggestions. Best, dc --------------------------------- Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out. John S Cargill 919 605 8222 Let Us Make Your Experimental Dreams Come True www.2bumsaircraft.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Carter Wright" <cartaire(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: not RV exactly, but...
Date: Feb 28, 2007
have you ever performed the negative-G pushover? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfGMOvPzrvE Carter _________________________________________________________________ Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - Refinance $150,000 loan for $579 a month. Intro*Terms https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=100000035&url=%2fst.jsp&tm=y&search=mortgage_text_links_88_h27f6&disc=y&vers=743&s=4056&p=5117 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Bill Settle <billsettle(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: not RV exactly, but...
Date: Mar 01, 2007
THAT is the funniest video I've seen in a long time! Poor little guy... > > From: "Carter Wright" <cartaire(at)hotmail.com> > Date: 2007/02/28 Wed PM 11:02:44 EST > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: not RV exactly, but... > > > have you ever performed the negative-G pushover? > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfGMOvPzrvE > > Carter > > _________________________________________________________________ > Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - Refinance $150,000 loan for $579 a month. > Intro*Terms > https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=100000035&url=%2fst.jsp&tm=y&search=mortgage_text_links_88_h27f6&disc=y&vers=743&s=4056&p=5117 > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Carter Wright" <cartaire(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: FW: First Saturday at the EAAgles Nest
Date: Mar 02, 2007
fyi... ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Jack E. Neubacher" <jack(at)fly4fun.org> ,"EventReminder-1199 Jacob Rhodes" ,"EventReminder-AEE8 Charles Hall" ,"EventReminder-EAA1016 Marion Todd" ,"EventReminder-EAA1136 Nancy Kiffer" ,EventReminder-EAA1202 ,"EventReminder-EAA1220 Robert Kroll" ,"EventReminder-EAA1321 Danny Ford" ,"EventReminder-EAA1368 Melvin Brasher" ,"EventReminder-EAA1416 Robert Spera" ,"EventReminder-EAA1426 Roger Steele" ,"EventReminder-EAA1428 Michael Brown" ,"EventReminder-EAA309 John Wigney" ,"EventReminder-EAA442 Michael Hathaway" ,"EventReminder-EAA497 Thomas Hagan" ,"EventReminder-EAA646 John Lenhardt" ,"EventReminder-EAA731 Douglas Teague" ,"EventReminder-EAA960 Clark" ,"EventReminder-Gary Piper" ,"Jim & Ann Page" ,"Marshall Teague" ,"Robert Yanacsek" ,"EAA 1083 - Carter Wright" ,"EAA 1083 - David Burgess" ,"EAA 1083 - Lester A Bradberry" ,"EAA 1083 - Paul Hannon" ,"EAA 1083 - Roy Faw" ,"EAA 1083 - Ben Selassie" ,"EAA 1083 - Mac & Donna Forbes" ,"EAA 1083 - Randy King" ,"EAA1083-Andy Hill" ,"EAA1083-Ben Martin" ,"EAA1083-Bill Hartin" ,"EAA1083-Bill Howard" ,"EAA1083-Billy Carter" ,"EAA1083-Bob Crosby" ,"EAA1083-Bob Pegram" ,"EAA1083-Bob Wilson" ,"EAA1083-Bobby Hunter" ,"EAA1083-Brian Cooker" ,"EAA1083-Bruce Allen" <bruce@nc-airpark-properties.com>,"EAA1083-Carl Wicker" ,"EAA1083-Charles and Patti Littwin" ,"EAA1083-Claude R. Jean" ,"EAA1083-Dan Ward" ,"EAA1083-Danny Sloop" ,"EAA1083-David Lackey" ,"EAA1083-David Schneider" ,"EAA1083-David Snow" ,"EAA1083-Don and Becky Herrmann" ,"EAA1083-Dr. Charles P Nicholson" ,"EAA1083-Gerald Ottinger" ,"EAA1083-Harold Mills" ,"EAA1083-J Wood" ,"EAA1083-Jack F Kirkland" ,"EAA1083-Jack Seaford" ,"EAA1083-James M Jewell" ,"EAA1083-Jeff Bost" ,"EAA1083-Jim Smiley" ,"EAA1083-John Barringer" ,"EAA1083-John Hudson" ,"EAA1083-Joyce Wood" ,"EAA1083-Kelvin Boyette" ,"EAA1083-Ken Kern" ,"EAA1083-Lance Berrier" ,"EAA1083-Larry Bowen" ,"EAA1083-Larry Macon" ,"EAA1083-Leo Berube" ,"EAA1083-Leroy Boardman" ,"EAA1083-Lewis Brown" ,"EAA1083-Lou Hine" ,"EAA1083-Michael Strickland" ,"EAA1083-Mike Brown" ,"EAA1083-Paul Diefenderfer" ,"EAA1083-Robert A. Bays" ,"EAA1083-Robert Poole" ,"EAA1083-Ron Gable" ,"EAA1083-Roy Berrier" ,"EAA1083-Sherrill Laney" ,"EAA1083-Smith Kirk" ,"EAA1083-Steve Sweet" ,"EAA1083-Sue Robb" ,"EAA1083-Ted Clement" ,"EAA1083-Thomas J Reddick III" ,"EAA1083-Tom Callender" ,"EAA1083-Tommy Winnett" ,"EAA1083-Tony Therrell" ,"EAA1083-Wade Myers" ,"Philip Salter" Subject: First Saturday at the EAAgles Nest Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 21:55:39 -0500 _________________________________________________________________ Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - Refinance $150,000 loan for $579 a month. Intro*Terms https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=100000035&url=%2fst.jsp&tm=y&search=mortgage_text_links_88_h27f6&disc=y&vers=743&s=4056&p=5117 After last months success, we are striving to do even betterIt's a place to go every month on the First Saturday On Saturday March 3, 2007 EAA Chapter 1083 is pleased to remind you ofthe it's third"First Saturday Lunch at the EAAgles Nest" our Monthly Fly-in for lunch and interesting speakersat the Salisbury/Rowan County Airport (RUQ)Salisbury, NC Near the Mid Field Wind Sock Last Month we planned for 30 guests and had 60 visit us. Now we know on a nice Saturday in North Carolina folks want to Fly and share some good times!! So we have expanded our capacity to serve you better. "Made to Order" Sandwiches Fresh Cut French FriesEver expanding Menuand all the trimmings served from 11:00 AM Come Early to Share some lies and Airplane "Show and Tell" Please forward this announcement to all your flying friends *you have been sent this message as part of the EAA Chapter 1083 activity notification list. If you would like to opt out of perceiving these in the future, please send a reply with "OPT OUT" in the message area. Thanks Regards, Jack E. Neubacher President EAA Chapter 1083 (704)213-6937 jack(at)fly4fun.org ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Steve Crimm" <steve.crimm(at)stephenscott.com>
Subject: You Might Be a Redneck Pilot If:
Date: Mar 02, 2007
While off topic, this is cute, and a little to familiar... Steve You Might Be a Redneck Pilot If: 1. Your stall warning plays DIXIE . 2. Your cross-country flight plan uses flea markets as checkpoints. 3. You think sectionals should show trailer parks. 4. You've ever used moonshine as AV-Gas. 5. Your 170's wheel pants have mud flaps with a chrome silhouette of a reclining nude. 6. Your toothpick keeps poking your mike. 7. You've ever taxied around the airport just drinking beer. 8. You wouldn't be caught dead in a Grumman Yankee. 9. You use an old sweet mix sack as a windsock. 10. You constantly confuse "Beechcraft" with "Beechnut." 11. You've never flown a nose-wheel airplane. 12. You refer to formation flying as "We got us a convoy." 13. Your matched set of lightweight flying luggage is three grocery bags from Piggly Wiggly. 14. You have a gun rack in the rear window. 15. You have more than one roll of duct tape holding your cowling on. 16. You figure mud and manure in your weight and balance calculations. 17. You siphon gas from your tractor to go flying. 18. You've never landed at an actual airport even though you've been flying for over 20 years. 19. You've ever ground looped to avoid hitting a cow. 20. You consider anything over 500-ft AGL as High Altitude Flying. 21. There are parts on your aircraft labeled "John Deere." 22. You don't own a current sectional, but have all the Texaco road maps for your area. 23. There's a brown streak down each side of your airplane; exhaust on the right side and tobacco on the left. 24. You have to buzz the strip to chase off the livestock before landing. 25. You use an old parachute for a portable hanger. 26. You've ever landed on Main Street for a cup of coffee. 27. The tread pattern, if any, on all three of your tires is different. 28. You have a pair of fuzzy dice and some small copper shoes hanging from the Magnetic Compass. 29. You put straw in the baggage compartment so your dogs don't get cold. 30. You've got matching bumper stickers on each side of the vertical stabilizer. 31. There are grass stains on the tips of your propeller. 32. Somewhere on your plane, there's a bumper sticker that reads"I'd rather be fishing." 33. You navigate with your ADF tuned to only AM country stations. 34. You think an ultralight is a new sissy beer from Budweiser. 35. Just before the crash, everybody on the UNICOM heard you say, "Hey Y'all-Watch This!" 36. You use your airplane for camping. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Dale Ensing" <densing(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: FW: First Saturday at the EAAgles Nest
Date: Mar 02, 2007
Anybody planning to fly in for lunch at the EAAgles Nest tomorrow? Dale Ensing months success, we are striving to do even betterIt's a place > to go every month on the First Saturday On Saturday March 3, 2007 EAA > Chapter 1083 is pleased to remind you ofthe it's third"First Saturday > Lunch at the EAAgles Nest" our Monthly Fly-in for lunch and interesting > speakersat the Salisbury/Rowan County Airport (RUQ)Salisbury, NC Near the > Mid Field Wind Sock Last Month we planned for 30 guests and had 60 visit > us. Now we know on a nice Saturday in North Carolina folks want to Fly > and share some good times!! So we have expanded our capacity to serve > you better. "Made to Order" Sandwiches Fresh Cut French FriesEver > expanding Menuand all the trimmings served from 11:00 AM Come Early to > Share some lies and Airplane "Show and Tell" Please forward this > announcement to all your flying friends *you have been sent this message > as part of the EAA Chapter 1083 activity notification list. If you would > like to opt out of perceiving these in the future, please send a reply > with "OPT OUT" in the message area. Thanks > > > > Regards, > Jack E. Neubacher > President EAA Chapter 1083 > (704)213-6937 jack(at)fly4fun.org > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Mar 02, 2007
Subject: Re: FW: First Saturday at the EAAgles Nest
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
Ya, I should be able to make it. -- Larry Bowen Larry(at)BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com Dale Ensing wrote: > > > Anybody planning to fly in for lunch at the EAAgles Nest tomorrow? > Dale Ensing > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Radomir Zaric" <vitez(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Spark plugs for sale
Date: Mar 03, 2007
I have a set of 8 brand new in original packaging Autolite UREM40E spark plugs for sale. $100 includes shipping. Pls email me if interested. Thanks! Radomir ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Dale Ensing" <densing(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Spark plugs for sale
Date: Mar 03, 2007
Radomir, Just realized your plugs are the smaller 5/8" barrel plugs. Sorry, I need the 3/4" barrel plugs. Are you going to a different ignition system then you originally planned? Dale ----- Original Message ----- From: Radomir Zaric To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 12:07 AM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Spark plugs for sale I have a set of 8 brand new in original packaging Autolite UREM40E spark plugs for sale. $100 includes shipping. Pls email me if interested. Thanks! Radomir ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Radomir Zaric" <vitez(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Spark plugs for sale
Date: Mar 03, 2007
Sticking with mags, but have 37BY plugs so this is an extra set. Thanks! From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dale Ensing Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 7:25 AM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Spark plugs for sale Radomir, Just realized your plugs are the smaller 5/8" barrel plugs. Sorry, I need the 3/4" barrel plugs. Are you going to a different ignition system then you originally planned? Dale ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Mar 04, 2007
From: "Bill Boyd" <sportav8r(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: FW: First Saturday at the EAAgles Nest
Greetings to all from Nairobi. Will get back in the flying swing when this adventure is over. /Stormy out. On 3/3/07, Dale Ensing wrote: > > Anybody planning to fly in for lunch at the EAAgles Nest tomorrow? > Dale Ensing > > > months success, we are striving to do even betterIt's a place > > to go every month on the First Saturday On Saturday March 3, 2007 EAA > > Chapter 1083 is pleased to remind you ofthe it's third"First Saturday > > Lunch at the EAAgles Nest" our Monthly Fly-in for lunch and interesting > > speakersat the Salisbury/Rowan County Airport (RUQ)Salisbury, NC Near the > > Mid Field Wind Sock Last Month we planned for 30 guests and had 60 visit > > us. Now we know on a nice Saturday in North Carolina folks want to Fly > > and share some good times!! So we have expanded our capacity to serve > > you better. "Made to Order" Sandwiches Fresh Cut French FriesEver > > expanding Menuand all the trimmings served from 11:00 AM Come Early to > > Share some lies and Airplane "Show and Tell" Please forward this > > announcement to all your flying friends *you have been sent this message > > as part of the EAA Chapter 1083 activity notification list. If you would > > like to opt out of perceiving these in the future, please send a reply > > with "OPT OUT" in the message area. Thanks > > > > > > > > Regards, > > Jack E. Neubacher > > President EAA Chapter 1083 > > (704)213-6937 jack(at)fly4fun.org > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
Subject: FW: First Saturday at the EAAgles Nest
Date: Mar 04, 2007
Did anyone make it to RUQ yesterday? My tailwheel maintenance took longer than expected, the wind was blowing harder than hoped and there was a luncheon I had forgotten about at 8A7. So I stayed at the home aerodrome... - Larry Bowen Larry(at)BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Boyd [mailto:sportav8r(at)gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 4:03 AM > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: FW: First Saturday at the EAAgles Nest > > --> > > Greetings to all from Nairobi. Will get back in the flying > swing when this adventure is over. > > /Stormy out. > > On 3/3/07, Dale Ensing wrote: > > --> > > > > Anybody planning to fly in for lunch at the EAAgles Nest tomorrow? > > Dale Ensing > > > > > > months success, we are striving to do even betterIt's a place > > > to go every month on the First Saturday On Saturday March 3, 2007 > > > EAA Chapter 1083 is pleased to remind you ofthe it's third"First > > > Saturday Lunch at the EAAgles Nest" our Monthly Fly-in > for lunch and > > > interesting speakersat the Salisbury/Rowan County Airport > > > (RUQ)Salisbury, NC Near the Mid Field Wind Sock Last Month we > > > planned for 30 guests and had 60 visit us. Now we know > on a nice Saturday in North Carolina folks want to Fly > > > and share some good times!! So we have expanded our > capacity to serve > > > you better. "Made to Order" Sandwiches Fresh Cut French > FriesEver > > > expanding Menuand all the trimmings served from 11:00 AM > Come Early > > > to Share some lies and Airplane "Show and Tell" Please > forward this > > > announcement to all your flying friends *you have been sent this > > > message as part of the EAA Chapter 1083 activity > notification list. > > > If you would like to opt out of perceiving these in the future, > > > please send a reply with "OPT OUT" in the message area. Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Jack E. Neubacher > > > President EAA Chapter 1083 > > > (704)213-6937 jack(at)fly4fun.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Photoshare, and much much more: > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
Subject: Nairobi
Date: Mar 04, 2007
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nairobi> Nairobi is the latest code word for Hop-Along, or are you really talkin' Kenya? - Larry Bowen Larry(at)BowenAero.com <http://BowenAero.com> http://BowenAero.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Boyd [ <mailto:sportav8r(at)gmail.com> mailto:sportav8r(at)gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 4:03 AM > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: FW: First Saturday at the EAAgles Nest > > --> > > Greetings to all from Nairobi. Will get back in the flying > swing when this adventure is over. > > /Stormy out. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: FW: First Saturday at the EAAgles Nest
Date: Mar 04, 2007
Randy and Cappy made it in Cappy's Toy and Dale came in his plane with Bill R. Good burger and fries. Quite windy. ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Bowen To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 8:32 AM Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: FW: First Saturday at the EAAgles Nest Did anyone make it to RUQ yesterday? My tailwheel maintenance took longer than expected, the wind was blowing harder than hoped and there was a luncheon I had forgotten about at 8A7. So I stayed at the home aerodrome... - Larry Bowen Larry(at)BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Boyd [mailto:sportav8r(at)gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 4:03 AM > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: FW: First Saturday at the EAAgles Nest > > --> > > Greetings to all from Nairobi. Will get back in the flying > swing when this adventure is over. > > /Stormy out. > > On 3/3/07, Dale Ensing wrote: > > --> > > > > Anybody planning to fly in for lunch at the EAAgles Nest tomorrow? > > Dale Ensing > > > > > > months success, we are striving to do even betterIt's a place > > > to go every month on the First Saturday On Saturday March 3, 2007 > > > EAA Chapter 1083 is pleased to remind you ofthe it's third"First > > > Saturday Lunch at the EAAgles Nest" our Monthly Fly-in > for lunch and > > > interesting speakersat the Salisbury/Rowan County Airport > > > (RUQ)Salisbury, NC Near the Mid Field Wind Sock Last Month we > > > planned for 30 guests and had 60 visit us. Now we know > on a nice Saturday in North Carolina folks want to Fly > > > and share some good times!! So we have expanded our > capacity to serve > > > you better. "Made to Order" Sandwiches Fresh Cut French > FriesEver > > > expanding Menuand all the trimmings served from 11:00 AM > Come Early > > > to Share some lies and Airplane "Show and Tell" Please > forward this > > > announcement to all your flying friends *you have been sent this > > > message as part of the EAA Chapter 1083 activity > notification list. > > > If you would like to opt out of perceiving these in the future, > > > please send a reply with "OPT OUT" in the message area. Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Jack E. Neubacher > > > President EAA Chapter 1083 > > > (704)213-6937 jack(at)fly4fun.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Photoshare, and much much more: > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Dale Ensing" <densing(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: FW: First Saturday at the EAAgles Nest
Date: Mar 04, 2007
As Cappy said we made it. But not with out some excitment. When I dropped Bill Ripucci off at Lake Norman there was a 23 NM direct cross wind. Most I've ever tried. Kept the speed up and did a go-around on first attempt but second was succesfull without a problem. Landing at Aero Plantation there where gust to 35NM but directly down the runway. Speaks will of the RV design. As I was fighting the wind to push the 6A into my hangar, Bill called to check on me and told me there were white caps on Lake Norman! It streched my flying experinece in the RV. Dale ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Glasgow To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 9:06 AM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: FW: First Saturday at the EAAgles Nest Randy and Cappy made it in Cappy's Toy. Dale came in his plane with Bill R. Good burger and fries. Quite windy. ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Bowen To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 8:32 AM Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: FW: First Saturday at the EAAgles Nest Did anyone make it to RUQ yesterday? My tailwheel maintenance took longer than expected, the wind was blowing harder than hoped and there was a luncheon I had forgotten about at 8A7. So I stayed at the home aerodrome... - Larry Bowen Larry(at)BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Boyd [mailto:sportav8r(at)gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 4:03 AM > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: FW: First Saturday at the EAAgles Nest > > --> > > Greetings to all from Nairobi. Will get back in the flying > swing when this adventure is over. > > /Stormy out. > > On 3/3/07, Dale Ensing wrote: > > --> > > > > Anybody planning to fly in for lunch at the EAAgles Nest tomorrow? > > Dale Ensing > > > > > > months success, we are striving to do even betterIt's a place > > > to go every month on the First Saturday On Saturday March 3, 2007 > > > EAA Chapter 1083 is pleased to remind you ofthe it's third"First > > > Saturday Lunch at the EAAgles Nest" our Monthly Fly-in > for lunch and > > > interesting speakersat the Salisbury/Rowan County Airport > > > (RUQ)Salisbury, NC Near the Mid Field Wind Sock Last Month we > > > planned for 30 guests and had 60 visit us. Now we know > on a nice Saturday in North Carolina folks want to Fly > > > and share some good times!! So we have expanded our > capacity to serve > > > you better. "Made to Order" Sandwiches Fresh Cut French > FriesEver > > > expanding Menuand all the trimmings served from 11:00 AM > Come Early > > > to Share some lies and Airplane "Show and Tell" Please > forward this > > > announcement to all your flying friends *you have been sent this > > > message as part of the EAA Chapter 1083 activity > notification list. > > > If you would like to opt out of perceiving these in the future, > > > please send a reply with "OPT OUT" in the message area. Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Jack E. Neubacher > > > President EAA Chapter 1083 > > > (704)213-6937 jack(at)fly4fun.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Photoshare, and much much more: > > > nbsp; Features Subscriptions href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.m p; available via href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Bill Repucci" <bill(at)repucci.com>
Subject: FW: First Saturday at the EAAgles Nest
Date: Mar 04, 2007
Dale picked me up at 14A and we flew around a little, did some sightseeing over High Rock lake then landed at KRUQ. Our first real hint that the wind was getting stronger was when we opened the canopy and Dale's RVSE cap went flying across the tarmac. On the return flight and before entering the pattern at 14A we talked about alternatives if we couldn't get down in one piece due to the crosswind, all of which included a LONG walk to get my truck. ;) That was not to be. The way Dale tells it, it sounded like he had a problem landing at 14A. Sitting in the right side, I thought he handled the crosswind very well, directional control was never in doubt. I'm thinking that Dale and his RV could have handled a few more knots of x-wind. And yes, as Dale said there were white caps on LKN. The waves where HUGE, HUGE I tell you. At least 6" high. ;) Thanks again for the ride Dale. Bill -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dale Ensing Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 9:29 AM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: FW: First Saturday at the EAAgles Nest As Cappy said we made it. But not with out some excitment. When I dropped Bill Ripucci off at Lake Norman there was a 23 NM direct cross wind. Most I've ever tried. Kept the speed up and did a go-around on first attempt but second was succesfull without a problem. Landing at Aero Plantation there where gust to 35NM but directly down the runway. Speaks will of the RV design. As I was fighting the wind to push the 6A into my hangar, Bill called to check on me and told me there were white caps on Lake Norman! It streched my flying experinece in the RV. Dale ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve <mailto:willfly(at)carolina.rr.com> Glasgow Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 9:06 AM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: FW: First Saturday at the EAAgles Nest Randy and Cappy made it in Cappy's Toy. Dale came in his plane with Bill R. Good burger and fries. Quite windy. ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry <mailto:Larry(at)bowenaero.com> Bowen Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 8:32 AM Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: FW: First Saturday at the EAAgles Nest Did anyone make it to RUQ yesterday? My tailwheel maintenance took longer than expected, the wind was blowing harder than hoped and there was a luncheon I had forgotten about at 8A7. So I stayed at the home aerodrome... - Larry Bowen Larry(at)BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Boyd [mailto:sportav8r(at)gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 4:03 AM > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: FW: First Saturday at the EAAgles Nest > > --> > > Greetings to all from Nairobi. Will get back in the flying > swing when this adventure is over. > > /Stormy out. > > On 3/3/07, Dale Ensing wrote: > > --> > > > > Anybody planning to fly in for lunch at the EAAgles Nest tomorrow? > > Dale Ensing > > > > > > months success, we are striving to do even betterIt's a place > > > to go every month on the First Saturday On Saturday March 3, 2007 > > > EAA Chapter 1083 is pleased to remind you ofthe it's third"First > > > Saturday Lunch at the EAAgles Nest" our Monthly Fly-in > for lunch and > > > interesting speakersat the Salisbury/Rowan County Airport > > > (RUQ)Salisbury, NC Near the Mid Field Wind Sock Last Month we > > > planned for 30 guests and had 60 visit us. Now we know > on a nice Saturday in North Carolina folks want to Fly > > > and share some good times!! So we have expanded our > capacity to serve > > > you better. "Made to Order" Sandwiches Fresh Cut French > FriesEver > > > expanding Menuand all the trimmings served from 11:00 AM > Come Early > > > to Share some lies and Airplane "Show and Tell" Please > forward this > > > announcement to all your flying friends *you have been sent this > > > message as part of the EAA Chapter 1083 activity > notification list. > > > If you would like to opt out of perceiving these in the future, > > > please send a reply with "OPT OUT" in the message area. Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Jack E. Neubacher > > > President EAA Chapter 1083 > > > (704)213-6937 jack(at)fly4fun.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Photoshare, and much much more: > > > nbsp; Features Subscriptions href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.mp ; available via href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.ma tronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: <ronschreck(at)windstream.net>
Subject: Re: FW: First Saturday at the EAAgles Nest
Date: Mar 04, 2007
I took Miss Izzy up early in the morning (Saturday) and was down before 7 AM. The real fun started when I took one of the Skymasters up on an Air Sample mission to 25,000 feet over KCHS. Passing through 23,000 the winds were 250 at 145. I was doing 15 knots GS in the climb and was crabbing 50 degrees off course to maintain course! Speed was not an issue as we just climb to FL 250 and start down taking air samples as we go. The return to Siler City showed over 230 knots GS at times. Landing at Siler City was sporty but fun. I'll be in Wilmington all week hunting whales. It aint Nirobi but its the best I can do. Smokey > > From: "Bill Repucci" <bill(at)repucci.com> > Date: 2007/03/04 Sun AM 11:49:15 EST > To: > Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: FW: First Saturday at the EAAgles Nest > > Dale picked me up at 14A and we flew around a little, did some > sightseeing over High Rock lake then landed at KRUQ. > Our first real hint that the wind was getting stronger was when we > opened the canopy and Dale's RVSE cap went flying across the tarmac. > > On the return flight and before entering the pattern at 14A we talked > about alternatives if we couldn't get down in one piece due to the > crosswind, all of which included a LONG walk to get my truck. ;) That > was not to be. The way Dale tells it, it sounded like he had a problem > landing at 14A. Sitting in the right side, I thought he handled the > crosswind very well, directional control was never in doubt. I'm > thinking that Dale and his RV could have handled a few more knots of > x-wind. > > And yes, as Dale said there were white caps on LKN. The waves where > HUGE, HUGE I tell you. At least 6" high. ;) > > Thanks again for the ride Dale. > > Bill > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dale > Ensing > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 9:29 AM > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: FW: First Saturday at the EAAgles Nest > > > As Cappy said we made it. But not with out some excitment. When I > dropped Bill Ripucci off at Lake Norman there was a 23 NM direct cross > wind. Most I've ever tried. Kept the speed up and did a go-around on > first attempt but second was succesfull without a problem. Landing at > Aero Plantation there where gust to 35NM but directly down the runway. > Speaks will of the RV design. As I was fighting the wind to push the 6A > into my hangar, Bill called to check on me and told me there were white > caps on Lake Norman! It streched my flying experinece in the RV. > Dale > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Steve <mailto:willfly(at)carolina.rr.com> Glasgow > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 9:06 AM > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: FW: First Saturday at the EAAgles Nest > > Randy and Cappy made it in Cappy's Toy. Dale came in his plane with Bill > R. Good burger and fries. Quite windy. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Larry <mailto:Larry(at)bowenaero.com> Bowen > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 8:32 AM > Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: FW: First Saturday at the EAAgles Nest > > > > Did anyone make it to RUQ yesterday? My tailwheel maintenance took > longer > than expected, the wind was blowing harder than hoped and there was a > luncheon I had forgotten about at 8A7. So I stayed at the home > aerodrome... > > - > Larry Bowen > Larry(at)BowenAero.com > http://BowenAero.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Bill Boyd [mailto:sportav8r(at)gmail.com] > > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 4:03 AM > > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com > > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: FW: First Saturday at the EAAgles Nest > > > > --> > > > > Greetings to all from Nairobi. Will get back in the flying > > swing when this adventure is over. > > > > /Stormy out. > > > > On 3/3/07, Dale Ensing wrote: > > > --> > > > > > > Anybody planning to fly in for lunch at the EAAgles Nest tomorrow? > > > Dale Ensing > > > > > > > > > months success, we are striving to do even betterIt's a place > > > > to go every month on the First Saturday On Saturday March 3, 2007 > > > > EAA Chapter 1083 is pleased to remind you ofthe it's third"First > > > > Saturday Lunch at the EAAgles Nest" our Monthly Fly-in > > for lunch and > > > > interesting speakersat the Salisbury/Rowan County Airport > > > > (RUQ)Salisbury, NC Near the Mid Field Wind Sock Last Month we > > > > planned for 30 guests and had 60 visit us. Now we know > > on a nice Saturday in North Carolina folks want to Fly > > > > and share some good times!! So we have expanded our > > capacity to serve > > > > you better. "Made to Order" Sandwiches Fresh Cut French > > FriesEver > > > > expanding Menuand all the trimmings served from 11:00 AM > > Come Early > > > > to Share some lies and Airplane "Show and Tell" Please > > forward this > > > > announcement to all your flying friends *you have been sent this > > > > message as part of the EAA Chapter 1083 activity > > notification list. > > > > If you would like to opt out of perceiving these in the future, > > > > please send a reply with "OPT OUT" in the message area. Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Jack E. Neubacher > > > > President EAA Chapter 1083 > > > > (704)213-6937 jack(at)fly4fun.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Photoshare, and much much more: > > > > > > nbsp; Features Subscriptions > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.mp > ; available via > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > > > > > > > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.ma > tronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List > > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
Subject: FW: First Saturday at the EAAgles Nest
Date: Mar 04, 2007
Like Len has said before, when I grow up I want to be like Smokey. - Larry Bowen Larry(at)BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com > -----Original Message----- > From: ronschreck(at)windstream.net [mailto:ronschreck(at)windstream.net] > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 4:03 PM > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Re: RE: RVSouthEast-List: FW: First Saturday at the > EAAgles Nest > > > I took Miss Izzy up early in the morning (Saturday) and was > down before 7 AM. The real fun started when I took one of > the Skymasters up on an Air Sample mission to 25,000 feet > over KCHS. Passing through 23,000 the winds were 250 at 145. > I was doing 15 knots GS in the climb and was crabbing 50 > degrees off course to maintain course! Speed was not an > issue as we just climb to FL 250 and start down taking air > samples as we go. The return to Siler City showed over 230 > knots GS at times. Landing at Siler City was sporty but fun. > I'll be in Wilmington all week hunting whales. It aint > Nirobi but its the best I can do. > > Smokey > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "bburril" <bburril(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: FW: First Saturday at the EAAgles Nest
Date: Mar 04, 2007
I don't, he's too ugly.Smokey that is. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 4:23 PM Subject: RE: RE: RVSouthEast-List: FW: First Saturday at the EAAgles Nest > > > Like Len has said before, when I grow up I want to be like Smokey. > > - > Larry Bowen > Larry(at)BowenAero.com > http://BowenAero.com > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ronschreck(at)windstream.net [mailto:ronschreck(at)windstream.net] >> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 4:03 PM >> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com >> Subject: Re: RE: RVSouthEast-List: FW: First Saturday at the >> EAAgles Nest >> >> >> I took Miss Izzy up early in the morning (Saturday) and was >> down before 7 AM. The real fun started when I took one of >> the Skymasters up on an Air Sample mission to 25,000 feet >> over KCHS. Passing through 23,000 the winds were 250 at 145. >> I was doing 15 knots GS in the climb and was crabbing 50 >> degrees off course to maintain course! Speed was not an >> issue as we just climb to FL 250 and start down taking air >> samples as we go. The return to Siler City showed over 230 >> knots GS at times. Landing at Siler City was sporty but fun. >> I'll be in Wilmington all week hunting whales. It aint >> Nirobi but its the best I can do. >> >> Smokey >> >> > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Bill Repucci" <bill(at)repucci.com>
Subject: FW: First Saturday at the EAAgles Nest
Date: Mar 04, 2007
Ben, Isn't that a bit like the pot calling the kettle black? -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of bburril Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 5:00 PM Subject: Re: RE: RVSouthEast-List: FW: First Saturday at the EAAgles Nest --> I don't, he's too ugly.Smokey that is. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 4:23 PM Subject: RE: RE: RVSouthEast-List: FW: First Saturday at the EAAgles Nest > > > Like Len has said before, when I grow up I want to be like Smokey. > > - > Larry Bowen > Larry(at)BowenAero.com > http://BowenAero.com > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ronschreck(at)windstream.net [mailto:ronschreck(at)windstream.net] >> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 4:03 PM >> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com >> Subject: Re: RE: RVSouthEast-List: FW: First Saturday at the EAAgles >> Nest >> >> >> I took Miss Izzy up early in the morning (Saturday) and was down >> before 7 AM. The real fun started when I took one of the Skymasters >> up on an Air Sample mission to 25,000 feet over KCHS. Passing >> through 23,000 the winds were 250 at 145. I was doing 15 knots GS in >> the climb and was crabbing 50 degrees off course to maintain course! >> Speed was not an issue as we just climb to FL 250 and start down >> taking air samples as we go. The return to Siler City showed over >> 230 knots GS at times. Landing at Siler City was sporty but fun. >> I'll be in Wilmington all week hunting whales. It aint >> Nirobi but its the best I can do. >> >> Smokey >> >> > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Mar 04, 2007
From: Craig Gallenbach <craigtxtx(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Off topic (sort of) ...You may be an experimental aircraft
builder if............ Youre an experimental airplane builder if - You have ever had a conversation involving the words mil-spec and AN. - The majority of your tools arent available at Sears. - You always have fresh scars on your hands, even though you have a desk job. - People ask if you have a hobby and their follow up question is are you nuts? - You have at least 15 unfinished projects that arent airplanes. - Your first reaction when purchasing any non-food item is I can build that. - Your first reaction when purchasing any food item is I gotta get some beer to go with that. - You know what Oshkosh is and where to find it. - You know that Alodine is not a place in Texas. - Someone says hey look a Moose and you look up in the sky. - You cant look at anything mechanical without thinking of a way to improve the design. - Cleveland is a brand, not a place in Ohio. - Youll pay hundreds of dollars to save two pounds in avionics, but youre 20 lbs overweight and somehow thats OK. - When people ask what you got for Christmas you have to explain what it is. - A dragon fly isnt an insect. - You know who Burt Rutan is and you think sideburns are kinda cool. - A lay up has nothing to do with basketball. - You havent parked your car in your garage in years. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "bburril" <bburril(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: FW: First Saturday at the EAAgles Nest
Date: Mar 04, 2007
I never said i was good looking i just said he was ugly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Repucci" <bill(at)repucci.com> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 6:32 PM Subject: RE: RE: RVSouthEast-List: FW: First Saturday at the EAAgles Nest > > Ben, > > Isn't that a bit like the pot calling the kettle black? > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of > bburril > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 5:00 PM > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Re: RE: RVSouthEast-List: FW: First Saturday at the EAAgles > Nest > > > --> > > I don't, he's too ugly.Smokey that is. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> > To: > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 4:23 PM > Subject: RE: RE: RVSouthEast-List: FW: First Saturday at the EAAgles > Nest > > >> >> >> Like Len has said before, when I grow up I want to be like Smokey. >> >> - >> Larry Bowen >> Larry(at)BowenAero.com >> http://BowenAero.com >> >> >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: ronschreck(at)windstream.net [mailto:ronschreck(at)windstream.net] >>> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 4:03 PM >>> To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com >>> Subject: Re: RE: RVSouthEast-List: FW: First Saturday at the EAAgles >>> Nest >>> >>> >>> I took Miss Izzy up early in the morning (Saturday) and was down >>> before 7 AM. The real fun started when I took one of the Skymasters >>> up on an Air Sample mission to 25,000 feet over KCHS. Passing >>> through 23,000 the winds were 250 at 145. I was doing 15 knots GS in > >>> the climb and was crabbing 50 degrees off course to maintain course! > >>> Speed was not an issue as we just climb to FL 250 and start down >>> taking air samples as we go. The return to Siler City showed over >>> 230 knots GS at times. Landing at Siler City was sporty but fun. >>> I'll be in Wilmington all week hunting whales. It aint >>> Nirobi but its the best I can do. >>> >>> Smokey >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
Subject: Off topic (sort of) ...You may be an experimental
aircraft builder if............
Date: Mar 04, 2007
Sigh. All so true.... - Larry Bowen Larry(at)BowenAero.com <http://bowenaero.com/> http://BowenAero.com _____ From: Craig Gallenbach [mailto:craigtxtx(at)yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 8:21 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Off topic (sort of) ...You may be an experimental aircraft builder if............ You're an experimental airplane builder if. - You have ever had a conversation involving the words "mil-spec" and "AN." - The majority of your tools aren't available at Sears. - You always have fresh scars on your hands, even though you have a desk job. - People ask if you have a hobby and their follow up question is "are you nuts?" - You have at least 15 unfinished projects that aren't airplanes. - Your first reaction when purchasing any non-food item is "I can build that." - Your first reaction when purchasing any food item is "I gotta get some beer to go with that." - You know what Oshkosh is and where to find it. - You know that Alodine is not a place in Texas. - Someone says "hey look a Moose" and you look up in the sky. - You can't look at anything mechanical without thinking of a way to "improve" the design. - Cleveland is a brand, not a place in Ohio. - You'll pay hundreds of dollars to save two pounds in avionics, but you're 20 lbs overweight and somehow that's OK. - When people ask what you got for Christmas you have to explain what it is. - A dragon fly isn't an insect. - You know who Burt Rutan is and you think sideburns are kinda cool. - A lay up has nothing to do with basketball. - You haven't parked your car in your garage in years. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
Subject: Stein Videos
Date: Mar 05, 2007
Some LOW passes. http://www.steinair.com/videos/videos.htm - Larry Bowen Larry(at)BowenAero.com <http://bowenaero.com/> http://BowenAero.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: <ronschreck(at)windstream.net>
Subject: Re: Stein Videos
Date: Mar 05, 2007
Note the disclaimer: "....performed by experienced professionals..." Experienced: Did it once before and failed to kill himself. Professional: Got paid for the event, i.e.: "I betcha ten dollars you can't knock my hat off with your tail wheel." (Note: Payee is normally under the influence of mind altering substances.) Fly safe! Smokey > > From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> > Date: 2007/03/05 Mon AM 12:21:48 EST > To: > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Stein Videos > > Some LOW passes. > > http://www.steinair.com/videos/videos.htm > > - > Larry Bowen > Larry(at)BowenAero.com > <http://bowenaero.com/> http://BowenAero.com > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Bill Repucci" <bill(at)repucci.com>
Subject: Stein Videos
Date: Mar 05, 2007
I wonder how they were able to train the flunky from the Taliban's Suicide Bomber school to operate a camera. I'm thinking that laying on a field and letting some "experienced professional" buzz a few feet over your head doesn't qualify you as the sharpest tool in the shed, if you know what I mean. Bill -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of ronschreck(at)windstream.net Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 6:11 AM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Stein Videos Note the disclaimer: "....performed by experienced professionals..." Experienced: Did it once before and failed to kill himself. Professional: Got paid for the event, i.e.: "I betcha ten dollars you can't knock my hat off with your tail wheel." (Note: Payee is normally under the influence of mind altering substances.) Fly safe! Smokey > > From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com> > Date: 2007/03/05 Mon AM 12:21:48 EST > To: > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Stein Videos > > Some LOW passes. > > http://www.steinair.com/videos/videos.htm > > - > Larry Bowen > Larry(at)BowenAero.com > <http://bowenaero.com/> http://BowenAero.com > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "bburril" <bburril(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Stein Videos
Date: Mar 05, 2007
That Guy is off his chain! Dangerous! ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Bowen To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 12:21 AM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Stein Videos Some LOW passes. http://www.steinair.com/videos/videos.htm - Larry Bowen Larry(at)BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Mar 05, 2007
From: "Bill Boyd" <sportav8r(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Nairobi
kenya; only now its kigali, where the keyboArds are in arabic and it takes ascii code to type a freakin @ sign. detqils after we return. On 3/4/07, Larry Bowen wrote: > > > Nairobi is the latest code word for Hop-Along, or are you really talkin' > Kenya? > > - > Larry Bowen > Larry(at)BowenAero.com > http://BowenAero.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Bill Boyd [mailto:sportav8r(at)gmail.com] > > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 4:03 AM > > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com > > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: FW: First Saturday at the EAAgles Nest > > > > --> > > > > Greetings to all from Nairobi. Will get back in the flying > > swing when this adventure is over. > > > > /Stormy out. > > - The RVSouthEast-List Email Forum - > Navigator to browse > page, > Photoshare, and much much more: > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List > - NEW MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - > the Web Forums! > http://forums.matronics.com > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Bill Repucci" <bill(at)repucci.com>
Subject: Nairobi
Date: Mar 05, 2007
Caution, this could phishing spam! Next we will hear how he has a large check from the government of Kigali that needs to be cashed in your account. He will then start the wire transfer process and clean you out. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Boyd Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 11:02 AM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Nairobi --> kenya; only now its kigali, where the keyboArds are in arabic and it takes ascii code to type a freakin @ sign. detqils after we return. On 3/4/07, Larry Bowen wrote: > > > Nairobi is the latest code word for Hop-Along, or are you really > talkin' Kenya? > > - > Larry Bowen > Larry(at)BowenAero.com > http://BowenAero.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Bill Boyd [mailto:sportav8r(at)gmail.com] > > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 4:03 AM > > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com > > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: FW: First Saturday at the EAAgles > > Nest > > > > --> > > > > Greetings to all from Nairobi. Will get back in the flying swing > > when this adventure is over. > > > > /Stormy out. > > - The RVSouthEast-List Email Forum - > Navigator to browse > page, > Photoshare, and much much more: > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List > - NEW MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - > the Web Forums! > http://forums.matronics.com > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Mar 05, 2007
From: bill crothers <bill28104(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Nairobi
wow thats a long trip for an RV dude. bet you have a LARGE gas bill. where'd you store your floatation device? Reno --- Bill Boyd wrote: > > > kenya; only now its kigali, where the keyboArds are > in arabic and it > takes ascii code to type a freakin @ sign. detqils > after we return. > > On 3/4/07, Larry Bowen wrote: > > > > > > Nairobi is the latest code word for Hop-Along, or > are you really talkin' > > Kenya? > > > > - > > Larry Bowen > > Larry(at)BowenAero.com > > http://BowenAero.com > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Bill Boyd [mailto:sportav8r(at)gmail.com] > > > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 4:03 AM > > > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com > > > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: FW: First > Saturday at the EAAgles Nest > > > > Boyd" > > > --> > > > > > > Greetings to all from Nairobi. Will get back in > the flying > > > swing when this adventure is over. > > > > > > /Stormy out. > > > > > - The RVSouthEast-List Email Forum - > > Navigator to browse > > page, > > Photoshare, and much much more: > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List > > - NEW MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - > > the Web Forums! > > http://forums.matronics.com > > > > > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List > > Web Forums! > > > > > Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. Ask your question on www.Answers.yahoo.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Robbie Walker <robbie(at)atlanticpkg.com>
Subject: FAA Sufficiently Staffed?
Date: Mar 11, 2007
I ran across this inadvertently... I've never heard the like and thought it would be worth sharing. I need to listen in on Atlanta sometime. http://home.online.no/~chainly/JFKGround.mp3 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Bill Repucci" <bill(at)repucci.com>
Subject: FW: Andy Moscarelli
Date: Mar 11, 2007
Andy was a fellow RVator, great guy, enthusiastic builder, Tech Inspector, and friend. He will be missed. Bill Repucci President EAA 309 -----Original Message----- From: eaa309(at)googlegroups.com [mailto:eaa309(at)googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Schroeder Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 7:47 PM Subject: Andy Moscarelli Don Sink, Ron Murray, our wives and I had a short visit with Edith and their daughters and families. Andy had been doing yard work this weekend. This afternoon, he decided to dig out a large stump down near the water. A neighbor saw him fall over but they could not find a pulse when they got to him. By the time they got him to the hospital, it was clear that he was gone. He will be buried in New Jersey and they will hold a service here at the funeral home. As soon as we get more information, we will send it out. Regards, John --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "EAA Chapter 309 Discussion List" group. To post to this group, send email to eaa309(at)googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to eaa309-unsubscribe(at)googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/eaa309?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Satruday
Date: Mar 15, 2007
Who is up for what? Cappy ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Mar 15, 2007
From: bill crothers <bill28104(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Satruday
I'm up for Sunday lunch anywhere. Sat. will be mucho windy. RR --- Steve Glasgow wrote: > Glasgow" > > Who is up for what? > > Cappy > > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List > > Web Forums! > > > > > No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Satruday
Date: Mar 15, 2007
OK Sunday, You pick. Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: bill crothers To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 3:47 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Satruday I'm up for Sunday lunch anywhere. Sat. will be mucho windy. RR --- Steve Glasgow wrote: > Glasgow" > > Who is up for what? > > Cappy > > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List > > Web Forums! > > > > > No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Robbie Walker <robbie(at)atlanticpkg.com>
Subject: Shop Note
Date: Mar 15, 2007
This is a pic from last week. My live-in airplane shop will be dried in by this weekend hopefully! I should be able to start implementing the great shop suggestions from this list very soon. Robbie Walker

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From: Lenleg(at)aol.com
Date: Mar 15, 2007
Subject: Re: Shop Note
Go ahead and get that kit ordered !!! Len In a message dated 3/15/2007 4:01:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, robbie(at)atlanticpkg.com writes: This is a pic from last week. My live-in airplane shop will be dried in by this weekend hopefully! I should be able to start implementing the great shop suggestions from this list very soon. Robbie Walker (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List) ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Robbie Walker <robbie(at)atlanticpkg.com>
Subject: Re: Shop Note
Date: Mar 15, 2007
I still haven't decided between the 7 & 8 yet!!!! Don't want to start a flame war, but any comments from the "gallerie l'peanuts"? I like the centerline positioning of the 8 (and the width) but the tip-up 7 visibility is really appealing too. I'm not sure I have the cojones to build 2 of them like Larry, so I'm hoping to pick the right one first. I'm leaning toward the 7 right now, because I don't think Greta will like sitting in the back no matter what she says now! Robbie On Mar 15, 2007, at 4:41 PM, Lenleg(at)aol.com wrote: > Go ahead and get that kit ordered !!! > > Len > > > In a message dated 3/15/2007 4:01:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > robbie(at)atlanticpkg.com writes: > This is a pic from last week. My live-in airplane shop will be dried > in by this weekend hopefully! > I should be able to start implementing the great shop suggestions > from this list very soon. > > Robbie Walker > > > > > > http://www.matronic======================= > ====== > > > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's > free from AOL at AOL.com. > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Bill Repucci" <bill(at)repucci.com>
Subject: Shop Note
Date: Mar 15, 2007
You did think to work the price of the kit into the new mortgage didn't you? Aluminum appliances anyone? Bill -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lenleg(at)aol.com Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 4:41 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Shop Note Go ahead and get that kit ordered !!! Len In a message dated 3/15/2007 4:01:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, robbie(at)atlanticpkg.com writes: This is a pic from last week. My live-in airplane shop will be dried in by this weekend hopefully! I should be able to start implementing the great shop suggestions from this list very soon. Robbie Walker http://www.matronic======================= ====== _____ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000339> AOL.com. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Robbie Walker <robbie(at)atlanticpkg.com>
Subject: Re: Shop Note
Date: Mar 15, 2007
No... and I'm hanging my head in shame... On Mar 15, 2007, at 4:58 PM, Bill Repucci wrote: > You did think to work the price of the kit into the new mortgage > didn't you? > > Aluminum appliances anyone? > > Bill > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner- > rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lenleg(at)aol.com > Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 4:41 PM > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Shop Note > > Go ahead and get that kit ordered !!! > > Len > > > In a message dated 3/15/2007 4:01:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > robbie(at)atlanticpkg.com writes: > This is a pic from last week. My live-in airplane shop will be dried > in by this weekend hopefully! > I should be able to start implementing the great shop suggestions > from this list very soon. > > Robbie Walker > > > > > > http://www.matronic======================= > ====== > > > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's > free from AOL at AOL.com. ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Assistance needed
From: "David Lee" <odlee(at)bellsouth.net>
Date: Mar 15, 2007
I'm trying to close up a bottom wing skin this weekend( one skin already complete). This is a two person job and the wife already said no. If you have nothing to do for a half day give me call...ha..ha....please. The beer is free and if you fly, you will have to settle for lunch. If you fly use Atlantic Aero @ GSO, I'll pick you up. Thanks, David 336-852-7602 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=100842#100842 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Mar 15, 2007
From: bill crothers <bill28104(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Shop Note
You are right about that! Most wives love the 6/7, but if you are mostly solo, the 8 can't be beaten. We all believe we have the Right choice...except maybe Larry, can't figure him out. Maybe there's a little wifely voice involved somewhere, tho I thnk Pam's good w/ the 8. --- Robbie Walker wrote: > I still haven't decided between the 7 & 8 yet!!!! > Don't want to start a flame war, but any comments > from the "gallerie > l'peanuts"? > I like the centerline positioning of the 8 (and the > width) but the > tip-up 7 visibility is really appealing too. > > I'm not sure I have the cojones to build 2 of them > like Larry, so I'm > hoping to pick the right one first. > > I'm leaning toward the 7 right now, because I don't > think Greta will > like sitting in the back no matter what she says > now! > > Robbie > > On Mar 15, 2007, at 4:41 PM, Lenleg(at)aol.com wrote: > > > Go ahead and get that kit ordered !!! > > > > Len > > > > > > > > In a message dated 3/15/2007 4:01:32 P.M. Eastern > Daylight Time, > > robbie(at)atlanticpkg.com writes: > > This is a pic from last week. My live-in airplane > shop will be dried > > in by this weekend hopefully! > > I should be able to start implementing the great > shop suggestions > > from this list very soon. > > > > Robbie Walker > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.matronic======================= > > ====== > > > > > > > > > > > > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out > more about what's > > free from AOL at AOL.com. > > > > Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Robbie Walker <robbie(at)atlanticpkg.com>
Subject: Re: Shop Note
Date: Mar 15, 2007
I love flying solo almost as much as I love flying other people around. Maybe I need some perspective (hint, hint) and I definitely need to try on the 7 cockpit. Len was kind enough to allow me & greta to sit in his 8, and she seemed ok with it and I liked it very much. Maybe we'll get a chance to sit in a 6 or 7 and make airplane noises sometime soon. On Mar 15, 2007, at 5:51 PM, bill crothers wrote: > > > You are right about that! Most wives love the 6/7, > but if you are mostly solo, the 8 can't be beaten. We > all believe we have the Right choice...except maybe > Larry, can't figure him out. Maybe there's a little > wifely voice involved somewhere, tho I thnk Pam's good > w/ the 8. > --- Robbie Walker wrote: > >> I still haven't decided between the 7 & 8 yet!!!! >> Don't want to start a flame war, but any comments >> from the "gallerie >> l'peanuts"? >> I like the centerline positioning of the 8 (and the >> width) but the >> tip-up 7 visibility is really appealing too. >> >> I'm not sure I have the cojones to build 2 of them >> like Larry, so I'm >> hoping to pick the right one first. >> >> I'm leaning toward the 7 right now, because I don't >> think Greta will >> like sitting in the back no matter what she says >> now! >> >> Robbie >> >> On Mar 15, 2007, at 4:41 PM, Lenleg(at)aol.com wrote: >> >>> Go ahead and get that kit ordered !!! >>> >>> Len >>> >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 3/15/2007 4:01:32 P.M. Eastern >> Daylight Time, >>> robbie(at)atlanticpkg.com writes: >>> This is a pic from last week. My live-in airplane >> shop will be dried >>> in by this weekend hopefully! >>> I should be able to start implementing the great >> shop suggestions >>> from this list very soon. >>> >>> Robbie Walker >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> http://www.matronic======================= >>> ====== >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out >> more about what's >>> free from AOL at AOL.com. >>> >> >> > > > Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast > with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Mar 15, 2007
From: bill crothers <bill28104(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Shop Note
the 8 will be more comfortable, since you can build it to your specs. the 7 is tight. i fly with Tad Sargent occasionally and we are both 160-170 and its cramped. the headroom is disappointing to me w/ side-by-side. my headset hits the canopy... --- Robbie Walker wrote: > Walker > > I love flying solo almost as much as I love flying > other people around. > Maybe I need some perspective (hint, hint) and I > definitely need to > try on the 7 cockpit. > > Len was kind enough to allow me & greta to sit in > his 8, and she > seemed ok with it and I liked it very much. > > Maybe we'll get a chance to sit in a 6 or 7 and make > airplane noises > sometime soon. > > On Mar 15, 2007, at 5:51 PM, bill crothers wrote: > > crothers > > > > > > You are right about that! Most wives love the > 6/7, > > but if you are mostly solo, the 8 can't be beaten. > We > > all believe we have the Right choice...except > maybe > > Larry, can't figure him out. Maybe there's a > little > > wifely voice involved somewhere, tho I thnk Pam's > good > > w/ the 8. > > --- Robbie Walker wrote: > > > >> I still haven't decided between the 7 & 8 yet!!!! > >> Don't want to start a flame war, but any comments > >> from the "gallerie > >> l'peanuts"? > >> I like the centerline positioning of the 8 (and > the > >> width) but the > >> tip-up 7 visibility is really appealing too. > >> > >> I'm not sure I have the cojones to build 2 of > them > >> like Larry, so I'm > >> hoping to pick the right one first. > >> > >> I'm leaning toward the 7 right now, because I > don't > >> think Greta will > >> like sitting in the back no matter what she says > >> now! > >> > >> Robbie > >> > >> On Mar 15, 2007, at 4:41 PM, Lenleg(at)aol.com > wrote: > >> > >>> Go ahead and get that kit ordered !!! > >>> > >>> Len > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> In a message dated 3/15/2007 4:01:32 P.M. > Eastern > >> Daylight Time, > >>> robbie(at)atlanticpkg.com writes: > >>> This is a pic from last week. My live-in > airplane > >> shop will be dried > >>> in by this weekend hopefully! > >>> I should be able to start implementing the great > >> shop suggestions > >>> from this list very soon. > >>> > >>> Robbie Walker > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> http://www.matronic======================= > >>> ====== > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out > >> more about what's > >>> free from AOL at AOL.com. > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the > forecast > > with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. > > > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather > > > > > > > > > > > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List > > Web Forums! > > > > > Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Shop Note
Date: Mar 15, 2007
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From: "Ron Schreck" <ronschreck(at)windstream.net>
Subject: Re: Shop Note
Date: Mar 15, 2007
Get her a ride in an -8 and see how she likes it. If she does, I guarantee you will. My back seat is open quite often. Smokey ----- Original Message ----- From: Robbie Walker To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 4:55 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Shop Note I still haven't decided between the 7 & 8 yet!!!! Don't want to start a flame war, but any comments from the "gallerie l'peanuts"? I like the centerline positioning of the 8 (and the width) but the tip-up 7 visibility is really appealing too. I'm not sure I have the cojones to build 2 of them like Larry, so I'm hoping to pick the right one first. I'm leaning toward the 7 right now, because I don't think Greta will like sitting in the back no matter what she says now! Robbie On Mar 15, 2007, at 4:41 PM, Lenleg(at)aol.com wrote: Go ahead and get that kit ordered !!! Len In a message dated 3/15/2007 4:01:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, robbie(at)atlanticpkg.com writes: This is a pic from last week. My live-in airplane shop will be dried in by this weekend hopefully! I should be able to start implementing the great shop suggestions from this list very soon. Robbie Walker http://www.matronic================== ============ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Satruday
Date: Mar 15, 2007
Does HKY still charge to land. I not how about "Froggy Pete's" for lunch on Sunday. Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: bill crothers To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 3:47 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Satruday I'm up for Sunday lunch anywhere. Sat. will be mucho windy. RR --- Steve Glasgow wrote: > Glasgow" > > Who is up for what? > > Cappy > > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List > > Web Forums! > > > > > No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Satruday
Date: Mar 15, 2007
http://r.vresp.com/?CharlotteFlyer/4dd6a17ec2/886706/d8f05eec86/1a54462 Try this for Forggy Pete's. Page 5. Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Glasgow To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 8:51 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Satruday Does HKY still charge to land. I not how about "Froggy Pete's" for lunch on Sunday. Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: bill crothers To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 3:47 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Satruday I'm up for Sunday lunch anywhere. Sat. will be mucho windy. RR --- Steve Glasgow wrote: > Glasgow" > > Who is up for what? > > Cappy > > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List > > Web Forums! > > > > > No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail p; Features Subscriptions href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.m p; available via href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Shop Note
Date: Mar 15, 2007
When do I get a ride. Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: Ron Schreck To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 8:50 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Shop Note Get her a ride in an -8 and see how she likes it. If she does, I guarantee you will. My back seat is open quite often. Smokey ----- Original Message ----- From: Robbie Walker To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 4:55 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Shop Note I still haven't decided between the 7 & 8 yet!!!! Don't want to start a flame war, but any comments from the "gallerie l'peanuts"? I like the centerline positioning of the 8 (and the width) but the tip-up 7 visibility is really appealing too. I'm not sure I have the cojones to build 2 of them like Larry, so I'm hoping to pick the right one first. I'm leaning toward the 7 right now, because I don't think Greta will like sitting in the back no matter what she says now! Robbie On Mar 15, 2007, at 4:41 PM, Lenleg(at)aol.com wrote: Go ahead and get that kit ordered !!! Len In a message dated 3/15/2007 4:01:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, robbie(at)atlanticpkg.com writes: This is a pic from last week. My live-in airplane shop will be dried in by this weekend hopefully! I should be able to start implementing the great shop suggestions from this list very soon. Robbie Walker http://www.matronic================== ============ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.m atronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Bill Repucci" <bill(at)repucci.com>
Subject: Assistance needed
Date: Mar 15, 2007
David, Where are you located? I can't make Saturday but I was curious. Bill BTW, I hope to spend some time on Saturday working on my -9. It would be nice to fly it before the end of the year. ;) -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Lee Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 5:33 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Assistance needed --> I'm trying to close up a bottom wing skin this weekend( one skin already complete). This is a two person job and the wife already said no. If you have nothing to do for a half day give me call...ha..ha....please. The beer is free and if you fly, you will have to settle for lunch. If you fly use Atlantic Aero @ GSO, I'll pick you up. Thanks, David 336-852-7602 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=100842#100842 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Assistance needed
From: "David Lee" <odlee(at)bellsouth.net>
Date: Mar 15, 2007
Bill, Greensboro. Larry B helped on the other wing but unavaiable this weekend due to honey-dos. Both of us are building -7's. I am trying to complete the wings and move them out of the garage. Not much room. Thanks, David Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=100902#100902 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Dale Ensing" <densing(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Shop Note
Date: Mar 15, 2007
An opposing view to Bill's......When I fly solo I really appreciate the space in the seat next to me for charts or whatever. Not behind me where it is of no use to me while flying. Dale Ensing 6A ----- Original Message ----- From: "bill crothers" <bill28104(at)yahoo.com> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 5:51 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Shop Note > > > You are right about that! Most wives love the 6/7, > but if you are mostly solo, the 8 can't be beaten. We > all believe we have the Right choice...except maybe > Larry, can't figure him out. Maybe there's a little > wifely voice involved somewhere, tho I thnk Pam's good > w/ the 8. > --- Robbie Walker wrote: > >> I still haven't decided between the 7 & 8 yet!!!! >> Don't want to start a flame war, but any comments >> from the "gallerie >> l'peanuts"? >> I like the centerline positioning of the 8 (and the >> width) but the >> tip-up 7 visibility is really appealing too. >> >> I'm not sure I have the cojones to build 2 of them >> like Larry, so I'm >> hoping to pick the right one first. >> >> I'm leaning toward the 7 right now, because I don't >> think Greta will >> like sitting in the back no matter what she says >> now! >> >> Robbie >> >> On Mar 15, 2007, at 4:41 PM, Lenleg(at)aol.com wrote: >> >> > Go ahead and get that kit ordered !!! >> > >> > Len >> > >> > >> > >> > In a message dated 3/15/2007 4:01:32 P.M. Eastern >> Daylight Time, >> > robbie(at)atlanticpkg.com writes: >> > This is a pic from last week. My live-in airplane >> shop will be dried >> > in by this weekend hopefully! >> > I should be able to start implementing the great >> shop suggestions >> > from this list very soon. >> > >> > Robbie Walker >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > http://www.matronic======================= >> > ====== >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out >> more about what's >> > free from AOL at AOL.com. >> > >> >> > > > Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast > with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Shop Note
From: "David Lee" <odlee(at)bellsouth.net>
Date: Mar 15, 2007
My wife has no license, but about 50 hrs logged. No way she would be satisfied in the back. That's one reason I went with the -7. I also like the empty seat room next to me rather than behind. The bottom line: you will be happy which ever way you go! Good luck. David Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=100912#100912 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Mar 15, 2007
From: Charlie England <ceengland(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Shop Note
Robbie Walker wrote: > I still haven't decided between the 7 & 8 yet!!!! > Don't want to start a flame war, but any comments from the "gallerie > l'peanuts"? > I like the centerline positioning of the 8 (and the width) but the > tip-up 7 visibility is really appealing too. > > I'm not sure I have the cojones to build 2 of them like Larry, so I'm > hoping to pick the right one first. > > I'm leaning toward the 7 right now, because I don't think Greta will > like sitting in the back no matter what she says now! > > Robbie Hi Robbie, I've flown a -4 off & on since '94, but I'm building a -7. For me, SxS won out because for me, giving rides is much more fun in a SxS plane (Swift time prior to the -4 for comparison). Also, x-country cockpit duties a bit more convenient due to the room in a SxS. CG a bit easier to manage, etc. Having said that, both the other builders who live on our strip built -8's. Neither will handle like the -4, though. :-( Good luck with your decision.... Charlie Slobovia Outernational Airport flying -4 (purchased) tipup -7 in the oven ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Bill Repucci" <bill(at)repucci.com>
Subject: Shop Note
Date: Mar 15, 2007
One other BIG advantage to the SbS RV is the amount of panel room it gives you. It is kind of lost on my VFR ship but for those who are building an Air Bus, this is a good thing. Bill R. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charlie England Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 11:24 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Shop Note --> Robbie Walker wrote: > I still haven't decided between the 7 & 8 yet!!!! > Don't want to start a flame war, but any comments from the "gallerie > l'peanuts"? > I like the centerline positioning of the 8 (and the width) but the > tip-up 7 visibility is really appealing too. > > I'm not sure I have the cojones to build 2 of them like Larry, so I'm > hoping to pick the right one first. > > I'm leaning toward the 7 right now, because I don't think Greta will > like sitting in the back no matter what she says now! > > Robbie Hi Robbie, I've flown a -4 off & on since '94, but I'm building a -7. For me, SxS won out because for me, giving rides is much more fun in a SxS plane (Swift time prior to the -4 for comparison). Also, x-country cockpit duties a bit more convenient due to the room in a SxS. CG a bit easier to manage, etc. Having said that, both the other builders who live on our strip built -8's. Neither will handle like the -4, though. :-( Good luck with your decision.... Charlie Slobovia Outernational Airport flying -4 (purchased) tipup -7 in the oven ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Robbie Walker <robbie(at)atlanticpkg.com>
Subject: Re: Shop Note
Date: Mar 15, 2007
That thought has occurred to me also... assuming the seats in the 7 can be built, um, robustly, um, it may be more comfortable solo... I'm guessing not, though. On Mar 15, 2007, at 9:55 PM, Dale Ensing wrote: > > > An opposing view to Bill's......When I fly solo I really appreciate > the space in the seat next to me for charts or whatever. Not behind > me where it is of no use to me while flying. > Dale Ensing > 6A > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "bill crothers" > > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 5:51 PM > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Shop Note > > >> >> >> You are right about that! Most wives love the 6/7, >> but if you are mostly solo, the 8 can't be beaten. We >> all believe we have the Right choice...except maybe >> Larry, can't figure him out. Maybe there's a little >> wifely voice involved somewhere, tho I thnk Pam's good >> w/ the 8. >> --- Robbie Walker wrote: >> >>> I still haven't decided between the 7 & 8 yet!!!! >>> Don't want to start a flame war, but any comments >>> from the "gallerie >>> l'peanuts"? >>> I like the centerline positioning of the 8 (and the >>> width) but the >>> tip-up 7 visibility is really appealing too. >>> >>> I'm not sure I have the cojones to build 2 of them >>> like Larry, so I'm >>> hoping to pick the right one first. >>> >>> I'm leaning toward the 7 right now, because I don't >>> think Greta will >>> like sitting in the back no matter what she says >>> now! >>> >>> Robbie >>> >>> On Mar 15, 2007, at 4:41 PM, Lenleg(at)aol.com wrote: >>> >>> > Go ahead and get that kit ordered !!! >>> > >>> > Len >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > In a message dated 3/15/2007 4:01:32 P.M. Eastern >>> Daylight Time, >>> > robbie(at)atlanticpkg.com writes: >>> > This is a pic from last week. My live-in airplane >>> shop will be dried >>> > in by this weekend hopefully! >>> > I should be able to start implementing the great >>> shop suggestions >>> > from this list very soon. >>> > >>> > Robbie Walker >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > http://www.matronic======================= >>> > ====== >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out >>> more about what's >>> > free from AOL at AOL.com. >>> > >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast >> with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. >> http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather >> >> > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry(at)bowenaero.com>
Subject: Shop Note
Date: Mar 15, 2007
Hee-hee. I'll let you keep guessing, 'cause I can't figure me out either. Building's fun...and there are no wrong answers if it says Van's Aircraft on the crate. Tandem vs SBS each have subtle advantages over the other, but either is a great choice. - Larry Bowen Larry(at)BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com > -----Original Message----- > From: bill crothers [mailto:bill28104(at)yahoo.com] > > You are right about that! Most wives love the 6/7, but if > you are mostly solo, the 8 can't be beaten. We all believe we > have the Right choice...except maybe Larry, can't figure him > out. Maybe there's a little wifely voice involved somewhere, > tho I thnk Pam's good w/ the 8. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Robbie Walker <robbie(at)atlanticpkg.com>
Subject: Re: Shop Note
Date: Mar 15, 2007
Bill and Charlie, Both excellent points... boy would a 3 or 4 be fun... but they don't make a shoehorn big enough... I think a 4 would be tight for my wife even. I find a bonanza/baron front seat about as small as I'd want. Never even tried a mooney, and there's no possible way for me to fold up enough to fit in a Cessna 150/152 and get the door closed. Oh well. On Mar 15, 2007, at 10:33 PM, Bill Repucci wrote: > > > One other BIG advantage to the SbS RV is the amount of panel room it > gives you. > > It is kind of lost on my VFR ship but for those who are building an > Air > Bus, this is a good thing. > > Bill R. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of > Charlie England > Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 11:24 PM > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Shop Note > > > --> > > Robbie Walker wrote: >> I still haven't decided between the 7 & 8 yet!!!! >> Don't want to start a flame war, but any comments from the "gallerie >> l'peanuts"? >> I like the centerline positioning of the 8 (and the width) but the >> tip-up 7 visibility is really appealing too. >> >> I'm not sure I have the cojones to build 2 of them like Larry, so I'm >> hoping to pick the right one first. >> >> I'm leaning toward the 7 right now, because I don't think Greta will >> like sitting in the back no matter what she says now! >> >> Robbie > Hi Robbie, > > I've flown a -4 off & on since '94, but I'm building a -7. For me, SxS > won out because for me, giving rides is much more fun in a SxS plane > (Swift time prior to the -4 for comparison). Also, x-country cockpit > duties a bit more convenient due to the room in a SxS. CG a bit easier > to manage, etc. > > Having said that, both the other builders who live on our strip built > -8's. > > Neither will handle like the -4, though. :-( > > Good luck with your decision.... > > Charlie > Slobovia Outernational Airport > flying -4 (purchased) > tipup -7 in the oven > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Ron Schreck" <ronschreck(at)windstream.net>
Subject: Re: Shop Note
Date: Mar 16, 2007
You don't have to ask' Smokey ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Glasgow To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 8:57 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Shop Note When do I get a ride. Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: Ron Schreck To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 8:50 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Shop Note Get her a ride in an -8 and see how she likes it. If she does, I guarantee you will. My back seat is open quite often. Smokey ----- Original Message ----- From: Robbie Walker To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 4:55 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Shop Note I still haven't decided between the 7 & 8 yet!!!! Don't want to start a flame war, but any comments from the "gallerie l'peanuts"? I like the centerline positioning of the 8 (and the width) but the tip-up 7 visibility is really appealing too. I'm not sure I have the cojones to build 2 of them like Larry, so I'm hoping to pick the right one first. I'm leaning toward the 7 right now, because I don't think Greta will like sitting in the back no matter what she says now! Robbie On Mar 15, 2007, at 4:41 PM, Lenleg(at)aol.com wrote: Go ahead and get that kit ordered !!! Len In a message dated 3/15/2007 4:01:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, robbie(at)atlanticpkg.com writes: This is a pic from last week. My live-in airplane shop will be dried in by this weekend hopefully! I should be able to start implementing the great shop suggestions from this list very soon. Robbie Walker http://www.matronic================== ============ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.m atronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.m atronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Randy Utsey" <djdist(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Shop Note
Date: Mar 16, 2007
As a frequent Mooney flier (I'm building a 7) its nice to be able to stretch the legs when you are solo using the right side space and like Dale says, the empty seat for charts is nice especially if youl plan to fly IFR / BTW I don't think my wife would have been happy in the back of an 8 Randy Utsey RV-7 D.J. Distributing Co. 1429 Bryant St. Charlotte, NC 28208 800-585-4126 djdist(at)bellsouth.net www.djdist.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robbie Walker" <robbie(at)atlanticpkg.com> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 10:45 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Shop Note > > > That thought has occurred to me also... assuming the seats in the 7 can > be built, um, robustly, um, it may be more comfortable solo... I'm > guessing not, though. > > On Mar 15, 2007, at 9:55 PM, Dale Ensing wrote: > >> >> >> An opposing view to Bill's......When I fly solo I really appreciate the >> space in the seat next to me for charts or whatever. Not behind me where >> it is of no use to me while flying. >> Dale Ensing >> 6A >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "bill crothers" <bill28104(at)yahoo.com> >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 5:51 PM >> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Shop Note >> >> >>> >>> >>> You are right about that! Most wives love the 6/7, >>> but if you are mostly solo, the 8 can't be beaten. We >>> all believe we have the Right choice...except maybe >>> Larry, can't figure him out. Maybe there's a little >>> wifely voice involved somewhere, tho I thnk Pam's good >>> w/ the 8. >>> --- Robbie Walker wrote: >>> >>>> I still haven't decided between the 7 & 8 yet!!!! >>>> Don't want to start a flame war, but any comments >>>> from the "gallerie >>>> l'peanuts"? >>>> I like the centerline positioning of the 8 (and the >>>> width) but the >>>> tip-up 7 visibility is really appealing too. >>>> >>>> I'm not sure I have the cojones to build 2 of them >>>> like Larry, so I'm >>>> hoping to pick the right one first. >>>> >>>> I'm leaning toward the 7 right now, because I don't >>>> think Greta will >>>> like sitting in the back no matter what she says >>>> now! >>>> >>>> Robbie >>>> >>>> On Mar 15, 2007, at 4:41 PM, Lenleg(at)aol.com wrote: >>>> >>>> > Go ahead and get that kit ordered !!! >>>> > >>>> > Len >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > In a message dated 3/15/2007 4:01:32 P.M. Eastern >>>> Daylight Time, >>>> > robbie(at)atlanticpkg.com writes: >>>> > This is a pic from last week. My live-in airplane >>>> shop will be dried >>>> > in by this weekend hopefully! >>>> > I should be able to start implementing the great >>>> shop suggestions >>>> > from this list very soon. >>>> > >>>> > Robbie Walker >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > http://www.matronic======================= >>>> > ====== >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out >>>> more about what's >>>> > free from AOL at AOL.com. >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast >>> with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. >>> http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Randy Pinkston" <pinkston(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Shop Note
Date: Mar 16, 2007
I am 6.5 tall 253 lbs and own a 7a..... flown 8's and love it when flying solo, but I do fly 95 % of the time with someone ,,that's got a lot to have to do with owning a great airplane like vans offer..only thing you have to do is ask if anyone wants to ride and you will have a someone almost every time,,,& when you do it is a lot better having them beside you instead of behind you !!!! IF they freeze on the controls in the back seat you are in DEEP trouble also!!!!!!!! RANDY PINKSTON [KAFP] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Utsey" <djdist(at)bellsouth.net> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 8:02 AM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Shop Note > > As a frequent Mooney flier (I'm building a 7) its nice to be able to stretch > the legs when you are solo using the right side space and like Dale says, > the empty seat for charts is nice especially if youl plan to fly IFR / BTW I > don't think my wife would have been happy in the back of an 8 > > Randy Utsey RV-7 > D.J. Distributing Co. > 1429 Bryant St. > Charlotte, NC 28208 > 800-585-4126 > > djdist(at)bellsouth.net > www.djdist.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robbie Walker" <robbie(at)atlanticpkg.com> > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 10:45 PM > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Shop Note > > > > > > > > That thought has occurred to me also... assuming the seats in the 7 can > > be built, um, robustly, um, it may be more comfortable solo... I'm > > guessing not, though. > > > > On Mar 15, 2007, at 9:55 PM, Dale Ensing wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> An opposing view to Bill's......When I fly solo I really appreciate the > >> space in the seat next to me for charts or whatever. Not behind me where > >> it is of no use to me while flying. > >> Dale Ensing > >> 6A > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "bill crothers" > >> To: > >> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 5:51 PM > >> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Shop Note > >> > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> You are right about that! Most wives love the 6/7, > >>> but if you are mostly solo, the 8 can't be beaten. We > >>> all believe we have the Right choice...except maybe > >>> Larry, can't figure him out. Maybe there's a little > >>> wifely voice involved somewhere, tho I thnk Pam's good > >>> w/ the 8. > >>> --- Robbie Walker wrote: > >>> > >>>> I still haven't decided between the 7 & 8 yet!!!! > >>>> Don't want to start a flame war, but any comments > >>>> from the "gallerie > >>>> l'peanuts"? > >>>> I like the centerline positioning of the 8 (and the > >>>> width) but the > >>>> tip-up 7 visibility is really appealing too. > >>>> > >>>> I'm not sure I have the cojones to build 2 of them > >>>> like Larry, so I'm > >>>> hoping to pick the right one first. > >>>> > >>>> I'm leaning toward the 7 right now, because I don't > >>>> think Greta will > >>>> like sitting in the back no matter what she says > >>>> now! > >>>> > >>>> Robbie > >>>> > >>>> On Mar 15, 2007, at 4:41 PM, Lenleg(at)aol.com wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > Go ahead and get that kit ordered !!! > >>>> > > >>>> > Len > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > In a message dated 3/15/2007 4:01:32 P.M. Eastern > >>>> Daylight Time, > >>>> > robbie(at)atlanticpkg.com writes: > >>>> > This is a pic from last week. My live-in airplane > >>>> shop will be dried > >>>> > in by this weekend hopefully! > >>>> > I should be able to start implementing the great > >>>> shop suggestions > >>>> > from this list very soon. > >>>> > > >>>> > Robbie Walker > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > http://www.matronic======================= > >>>> > ====== > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out > >>>> more about what's > >>>> > free from AOL at AOL.com. > >>>> > > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast > >>> with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. > >>> http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "bburril" <bburril(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Shop Note
Date: Mar 16, 2007
Enough,build one or the other.If you don,t like it, sell and build another. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Repucci" <bill(at)repucci.com> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 9:33 PM Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Shop Note > > One other BIG advantage to the SbS RV is the amount of panel room it > gives you. > > It is kind of lost on my VFR ship but for those who are building an Air > Bus, this is a good thing. > > Bill R. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of > Charlie England > Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 11:24 PM > To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Shop Note > > > --> > > Robbie Walker wrote: >> I still haven't decided between the 7 & 8 yet!!!! >> Don't want to start a flame war, but any comments from the "gallerie >> l'peanuts"? >> I like the centerline positioning of the 8 (and the width) but the >> tip-up 7 visibility is really appealing too. >> >> I'm not sure I have the cojones to build 2 of them like Larry, so I'm >> hoping to pick the right one first. >> >> I'm leaning toward the 7 right now, because I don't think Greta will >> like sitting in the back no matter what she says now! >> >> Robbie > Hi Robbie, > > I've flown a -4 off & on since '94, but I'm building a -7. For me, SxS > won out because for me, giving rides is much more fun in a SxS plane > (Swift time prior to the -4 for comparison). Also, x-country cockpit > duties a bit more convenient due to the room in a SxS. CG a bit easier > to manage, etc. > > Having said that, both the other builders who live on our strip built > -8's. > > Neither will handle like the -4, though. :-( > > Good luck with your decision.... > > Charlie > Slobovia Outernational Airport > flying -4 (purchased) > tipup -7 in the oven > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "bburril" <bburril(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Shop Note
Date: Mar 16, 2007
Cappy, I;am still waiting for my ride also.I guess sence we hauled him around and we have an airplane we don,t need a ride. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ron Schreck To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 11:13 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Shop Note You don't have to ask' Smokey ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Glasgow To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 8:57 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Shop Note When do I get a ride. Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: Ron Schreck To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 8:50 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Shop Note Get her a ride in an -8 and see how she likes it. If she does, I guarantee you will. My back seat is open quite often. Smokey ----- Original Message ----- From: Robbie Walker To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 4:55 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Shop Note I still haven't decided between the 7 & 8 yet!!!! Don't want to start a flame war, but any comments from the "gallerie l'peanuts"? I like the centerline positioning of the 8 (and the width) but the tip-up 7 visibility is really appealing too. I'm not sure I have the cojones to build 2 of them like Larry, so I'm hoping to pick the right one first. I'm leaning toward the 7 right now, because I don't think Greta will like sitting in the back no matter what she says now! Robbie On Mar 15, 2007, at 4:41 PM, Lenleg(at)aol.com wrote: Go ahead and get that kit ordered !!! Len In a message dated 3/15/2007 4:01:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, robbie(at)atlanticpkg.com writes: This is a pic from last week. My live-in airplane shop will be dried in by this weekend hopefully! I should be able to start implementing the great shop suggestions from this list very soon. Robbie Walker http://www.matronic================== ============ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.m atronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.m atronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.m atronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Ron Schreck" <ronschreck(at)windstream.net>
Subject: Re: Shop Note
Date: Mar 16, 2007
Ben, You DO have to ask! Smokey ----- Original Message ----- From: bburril To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 11:21 AM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Shop Note Cappy, I;am still waiting for my ride also.I guess sence we hauled him around and we have an airplane we don,t need a ride. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ron Schreck To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 11:13 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Shop Note You don't have to ask' Smokey ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Glasgow To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 8:57 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Shop Note When do I get a ride. Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: Ron Schreck To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 8:50 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Shop Note Get her a ride in an -8 and see how she likes it. If she does, I guarantee you will. My back seat is open quite often. Smokey ----- Original Message ----- From: Robbie Walker To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 4:55 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Shop Note I still haven't decided between the 7 & 8 yet!!!! Don't want to start a flame war, but any comments from the "gallerie l'peanuts"? I like the centerline positioning of the 8 (and the width) but the tip-up 7 visibility is really appealing too. I'm not sure I have the cojones to build 2 of them like Larry, so I'm hoping to pick the right one first. I'm leaning toward the 7 right now, because I don't think Greta will like sitting in the back no matter what she says now! Robbie On Mar 15, 2007, at 4:41 PM, Lenleg(at)aol.com wrote: Go ahead and get that kit ordered !!! Len In a message dated 3/15/2007 4:01:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, robbie(at)atlanticpkg.com writes: This is a pic from last week. My live-in airplane shop will be dried in by this weekend hopefully! I should be able to start implementing the great shop suggestions from this list very soon. Robbie Walker http://www.matronic================== ============ -------------------------------------------------------------------- AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.m atronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.m atronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.m atronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.m atronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Mar 16, 2007
From: "James Clark" <jclarkmail(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Fwd: Watson Farms March 17, 2007
This should be fun! "Down Home" for me. Being done by one of my **high school classmates!". Anyone from the list going? (I plan to) James ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: lorene washburn <lorenewashburn(at)hotmail.com> Date: Mar 16, 2007 8:40 AM Subject: Watson Farms March 17, 2007 F I N A L R E M I N D E R DON'T MISS THE WATSON FARM'S FLY-IN (2J9) ON MARCH 17, 2007. March 17, 2007 - St Patrick's Day Fly In at Watson Farms 10:00 am Arrivals Please watch the web site - notification will be posted by 3/14/07 if the event has to be cancelled due to weather ** PRIVATE RUNWAY. All Flight and Ground operations at pilot's risk** RSVP to David and Janice Watson at 850-856-5515(hm) or 850-875-1000 (wk) Email RSVP to Watson.David(at)ccbg.com by MARCH 14, 2007 30-36.841 N 84-38.682 W Runway 14/32. 2000 ft long/50 ft wide. 5 miles west of Quincy, FL (2J9). (DO NOT mistake this for Watson Airport) BBQ at 11:30 am - arrive between 10:30 and 11:00 am PRIVATELY HOSTED by David and Janice Watson. NO COST. (Note: Coordinates in Florida Airport Directory are INCORRECT. Please use the coordinates on this web page ONLY). Strip runs diagnally across a square 40 acre field. The wind sock is at the north end. The approach for 14 is wide open, with trees at the far end. From the south (approach 32) pilots will have to come in slow over the trees. The approach from the south is a little more difficult, but not a problem for experienced pilots. Lunch provided at NO COST. CAMPING OVERNIGHT at no cost. There is a large, dirt floor hangar for overnight parking and camping. _________________________________________________________________ Exercise your brain! Try Flexicon. http://games.msn.com/en/flexicon/default.htm?icid=flexicon_hmemailtaglinemarch07 -- This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at james(at)nextupventures.com . ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "bburril" <bburril(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Shop Note
Date: Mar 16, 2007
Well i know i will have to ride over there.I'am sure you won't come get me. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ron Schreck To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 10:33 AM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Shop Note Ben, You DO have to ask! Smokey ----- Original Message ----- From: bburril To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 11:21 AM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Shop Note Cappy, I;am still waiting for my ride also.I guess sence we hauled him around and we have an airplane we don,t need a ride. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ron Schreck To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 11:13 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Shop Note You don't have to ask' Smokey ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Glasgow To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 8:57 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Shop Note When do I get a ride. Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: Ron Schreck To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 8:50 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Shop Note Get her a ride in an -8 and see how she likes it. If she does, I guarantee you will. My back seat is open quite often. Smokey ----- Original Message ----- From: Robbie Walker To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 4:55 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Shop Note I still haven't decided between the 7 & 8 yet!!!! Don't want to start a flame war, but any comments from the "gallerie l'peanuts"? I like the centerline positioning of the 8 (and the width) but the tip-up 7 visibility is really appealing too. I'm not sure I have the cojones to build 2 of them like Larry, so I'm hoping to pick the right one first. I'm leaning toward the 7 right now, because I don't think Greta will like sitting in the back no matter what she says now! Robbie On Mar 15, 2007, at 4:41 PM, Lenleg(at)aol.com wrote: Go ahead and get that kit ordered !!! Len In a message dated 3/15/2007 4:01:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, robbie(at)atlanticpkg.com writes: This is a pic from last week. My live-in airplane shop will be dried in by this weekend hopefully! I should be able to start implementing the great shop suggestions from this list very soon. Robbie Walker http://www.matronic================== ============ ------------------------------------------------------------------ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.m atronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.m atronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.m atronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.m atronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List">http://www.m atronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Sunday
Date: Mar 17, 2007
Cappy and Randy are thinking about going to a restaurant on the HKY airport called "Froggy Pete's" for lunch. Does anyone know anything about it. I had a website about it but lost it. Is it open on Sunday??? What about charges for landing at HKY??? Help! We have to do something.... Soon it will be one fly-in after another.... Cappy ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Sunday
From: "Tim B" <timbolton(at)therv7.com>
Date: Mar 17, 2007
I dont think they are open on Sundays. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=101269#101269 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "tadsargent" <tadsargent(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Sunday
Date: Mar 17, 2007
Steve HKY does have a landing fee, for us it is $10.00 Froggies was closed today, tomorrow may be a different story. The wind may have something to do with it. Bill Crothers suggested Stanton's for lunch. The food is said to be good. Stripes ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 4:46 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Sunday > > > Cappy and Randy are thinking about going to a restaurant on the HKY > airport called "Froggy Pete's" for lunch. Does anyone know anything about > it. I had a website about it but lost it. Is it open on Sunday??? What > about charges for landing at HKY??? Help! > > We have to do something.... Soon it will be one fly-in after another.... > > Cappy > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Mar 17, 2007
From: bill crothers <bill28104(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Sunday
Stantons is open and has turkey & dressing on Sundays + changed BBQ recipe...supposedly better now...also Anson Co. has burgers compliments of Mike Barbee every Sunday at Noon. Choose your weapon, Cappy. --- Steve Glasgow wrote: > Glasgow" > > Cappy and Randy are thinking about going to a > restaurant on the HKY airport > called "Froggy Pete's" for lunch. Does anyone know > anything about it. I > had a website about it but lost it. Is it open on > Sunday??? What about > charges for landing at HKY??? Help! > > We have to do something.... Soon it will be one > fly-in after another.... > > Cappy > > > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List > > Web Forums! > > > > > Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Tim Bolton" <timbolton(at)therv7.com>
Subject: Re: Sunday
Date: Mar 17, 2007
Lets try this again. Tim Bolton Charlotte, NC www.TheRV7.com ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Mar 17, 2007
From: bill crothers <bill28104(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: lunch Sunday
Everyone welcome for lunch tommorrow. Either Stantons or Anson Co. At hi noon-noon thirty. Ck. Cappy's reponse to see where we light. RenoRed. Is Cappy buying...I doubt it. Get your own web address. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly(at)carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: lunch Sunday
Date: Mar 17, 2007
How about Anson Co at 11:45. Cappy and Randy are going to look at a hangar in Rock Hill later. The guy that just sold his business should pay. Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: bill crothers To: SERV Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 6:06 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: lunch Sunday Everyone welcome for lunch tommorrow. Either Stantons or Anson Co. At hi noon-noon thirty. Ck. Cappy's reponse to see where we light. RenoRed. Is Cappy buying...I doubt it. Get your own web address. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Mar 17, 2007
From: bill crothers <bill28104(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: lunch Sunday
CYA THERE. --- Steve Glasgow wrote: > How about Anson Co at 11:45. Cappy and Randy are > going to look at a hangar in Rock Hill later. > > The guy that just sold his business should pay. > > Cappy > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: bill crothers > To: SERV > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 6:06 PM > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: lunch Sunday > > > crothers > > Everyone welcome for lunch tommorrow. Either > Stantons > or Anson Co. At hi noon-noon thirty. Ck. Cappy's > reponse to see where we light. RenoRed. Is Cappy > buying...I doubt it. > > > > Get your own web address. > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL > > > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta.

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