Any other builders of the Lite out there? In Mass., Conn., R.I., NH,
NY ?????
Any other ultra-light'ers in the Sturbridge-Worcester-NortheastCornerOfConn.
area? ....... Send me a "Hi" off-line!
(I am located in Charlton MA)
tx
..
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Subject:
Re: Saying "Hi"
Date:
Feb 08, 2004
> I have chosen the 2si engine but I would consider upgrading it to the
Rotax
> 503 option Skystar provides. Does any one out there have experience with
> the 2si engine?
2si is all done building and selling aircraft engines.
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DNA: not not archive
Subject:
[PLEASE READ] Virus Laden Spam Purports To Be From Matronics...
Dear Listers,
First let me say that I normally don't condone the sharing of warnings
about Internet viruses on the Matronics Email Lists. I don't want to
start a storm of discussion regarding computer viruses on the Lists, so
please just note the information below and refrain from commenting to
the List. The circumstances I describe below are disturbing enough
that I felt an explanation is necessary. That being said...
There is a new email-bourne virus running rampant on the Internet that
is cleverly disguising itself as legitimate email warning of such
things as:
"your email account is disabled because of unauthorized access"
"Some of our clients complained about the spam (negative e-mail
content) outgoing from your e-mail account"
"Probably, you have been infected by a proxy-relay trojan server. In
order to keep your computer safe, follow the instructions."
"Our main mailing server will be temporary unavailable for next two
days, to continue receiving mail in these days you have to
configure our free auto-forwarding service."
All of these messages include an attachment that you are instructed to
click upon to "Get more information", "clean the virus from your
system", or "check your system for infections".
These enclosures all contain a virus that will infect your system and
propagate even more copies of the original message.
The disturbing part of these messages is that they appear to be coming
from very legitimate addresses and have very legitimate, convincing
dialog. For example, I have received a number of them today that
appear to be from "support(at)matronics.com", "management(at)matronics.com",
"administration(at)matronics.com", and "staff(at)matronics.com".
The text of the messages seems believable enough, and given the forged
source address, seem even more legitimate.
Please be assured that no one at Matronics.com will be sending you
these kinds of messages. If you receive one, it is a spam/virus that
has forged headers and was sent to you from someone other than
Matronics. Delete the message and the attachment promptly. Invest in
a copy of Norton Antivirus and keep the definitions up dated on a daily
basis.
Again, I want to stress that I *DO NOT* want a big discussion of
viruses on the Matronics Email Lists. Please do not reply to this
email with any comments. You may write to me directly at
dralle(at)matronics.com if you wish, but do not include the List.
Since many of these appear to come from matronics.com, I wanted to
assure everyone that Matronics wasn't the real source of these messages.
Let's be careful out there and keep those virus definitions up to date!
Today alone, the Matronics spam filter and virus blocking appliance
has filtered out 11,550 spam messages and 375 viruses! That's just in
an 18 hour period!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
--
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925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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Subject:
Randy Simpson??
Date:
Aug 16, 2004
Hoping someone on the list can help me.
I'm trying to get a hold of Randy Simpson who makes the titanium tie-downs
and is a Carrera Ultralight flyer. I've tried e-mailing him using this
address (airtime(at)proaxis.com) and have tried calling him at the number
listed on his web site www airtimemfg.com, but I'm not getting any response.
Does anybody on this list know if he is still in the tie-down business and
how I can get in contact with him?
Thanks,
Tom Moore
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Date:
Sep 05, 2004
From:
Land Shorter <landshorter2(at)yahoo.com>
Subject:
New product announcement: affordable VG's
teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com, ultralight-list(at)matronics.com,
warbird-list(at)matronics.com, yak-list(at)matronics.com
Hey folks,
I double checked and Matt Dralle's earlier post says it's OK to post about new
aviation products as long as the message doesn't come off as having a "flavor"
of "traditional spam". Don't worry I'm not going to try to sell you anything
that supposedly makes any of your body parts larger (or smaller) and this product
is directly aviation related :) I'm just an airplane builder, owner, pilot,
and aviation nut who wants to tell you where you can find more information about
a great new product.
I've been selling kits of vortex generators (VG's) for only $95 and my customers are telling me they really like the performance gains they're seeing. VG's are great for reducing stall speeds and allow you to land slower, shorter, and safer. I invite you to check out my site at www.landshorter.com and see what you think. My VG's can be quickly installed for testing using removable double-stick tape and come with a 100% money-back guarantee so why not try them out on your plane? You'll be really glad you did :)
Thanks and let's keep 'em flying!
Joa Harrison
The VG Guy
www.landshorter.com
1-877-272-1414 (toll free)
---------------------------------
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From:
WillUribe(at)aol.com
Date:
Sep 15, 2004
Subject:
Hipp Reliant ultralight for sale
For Sale
Hipp Reliant Ultralight
Sale includes the following:
1.=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Custom trailer
2.=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0New BRS 750 chute
3.=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Microair 760 VHF Radio, Panel installed
4.=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0All new Windows and Windscreen.
5.=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Oversized Tires
6.=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Spare set of good tires
7.=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Spare new 3 Bladed Wood prop and Hub, Gnd Adjustable
8.=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0VW Engine Mount
9.=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Set of Wheel Pants
10.=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Extra 8 gallon Fiberglas Fuel Tank
11.=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Rotax 503 engine W/ oil injection, battery and
electric
starter.
12.=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Aprox 8Hrs on overhauled engine.=A0
13.=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Hydraulic brakes
=A0
Over $14,000 investment
Asking only $10,500.00
=A0
Phone 915-856-7013 ask for Leo
E-mail address lkramer(at)elp.rr.com
Selling due to medical condition
=A0
The following are pictures of the Hipps ultralight
http://home.elp.rr.com/leokramer/
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From:
<tk1991(at)cox.net>
Subject:
Kawasaki 340/440
Date:
Sep 29, 2004
I am beyond "very intersted" in making my own reduction drive for my 340/A. Has
anyone gone down this road? I also need to convert to a CDI and wire for an electric
starter. Any advice or time saving information would be GREATLY appreciated.
Bes Regards,
Tim
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
<tk1991(at)cox.net>
Subject:
340 / 440 Kawasaki Re-Drive
Date:
Sep 29, 2004
Has anyone built a reduction drive for a Kawasaki 340 or 440 who can show me the
way?
Best Regards,
Tim
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Oct 01, 2004
From:
jerb <ulflyer(at)verizon.net>
Subject:
Re: 340 / 440 Kawasaki Re-Drive
Go to the CGS Hawk list, might be able to get a good used one from some one
there. The first Hawks used a Kaw with a belt reduction drive. I believe
it was a multi-belt unit.
jerb
>
>Has anyone built a reduction drive for a Kawasaki 340 or 440 who can show
>me the way?
>
>Best Regards,
>
>Tim
>
>
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Subject:
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From:
Steve Blank <blanks01(at)luey.redars.ca.boeing.com>
Subject:
Starting to Look
Dear Listers,
Was wondering if anyone knows of anyone selling
their ultralight in the Washington area (Idaho and Oregon
could work too). I'm looking for something already flying
or mostly done and actually meets (or very close) part 103.
My preferences are something like a skyraider,ridge runner,
kitfox-lite for tractor style or sportlite-103, CGS hawk for
pusher style. I'm trying to stay away from a lot of wires
like a Quicksilver MX, etc. and foldable wings or easy off
would be a plus.
Sincerely,
Steven Blank
blanks01(at)luey.redars.ca.boeing.com
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Date:
Dec 31, 2004
From:
Clifford Dow <cdowjr(at)yahoo.com>
Subject:
Looking for a Rans S-12 owner in New England area - Maine
Hello
I just bought a single place Rans S-14 - i'm going to fly it from Virginai back
to Maine sometime between now and May.
I have 150 hours TT in a C-152, C-172 & RV-7A (I built the RV-7A and flew it for
55 hours).
I have never flown an ultralight - i'd like to go up in one - a dual one before
trying to fly mine home with zero time in ultralights.
is there anyone out there in the New England area with a Rans S-12 - that's a two
seater - If I could just go up with you a few times I think i'd pick it up
quick - I don't even need to land it - just let me fly around once up there and
get the feel and then maybe fly it down to within 20 feet of landing and see
how you land it - that would do the trick.
thanks
cliff jr
Portland, Maine
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"George Bass" <gtb(at)commspeed.net>
Subject:
Re: Rans S-12 owner in Maine
Date:
Dec 31, 2004
cliff jr - Portland, Maine wrote:
"......I think i'd pick it up quick - I don't even need to land it -
just let me fly around once up there and get the feel and then
maybe fly it down to within 20 feet of landing and see how
you land it - that would do the trick."
This is precisely the kind of attitude that has KILLED many
a PPL flyer, when transitioning from GA to UL.
P_L_E_A_S_E_!_!_! Get yourself some ACTUAL training
in the type you intend to fly, whether GA, UL, Hi- or Lo-wing,
etc. We don't need any more statistics telling us how very
dangerous it is to fly because another PILOT got killed doing
what HE THOUGHT was proper.
Thanks,
George Bass
P. O. Box 770
Camp Verde, AZ
86322
USUA #30899
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From:
"Jerry Curtin" <jcurtin(at)cableone.net>
Subject:
Re: Looking for a Rans S-12 owner in New England area
- Maine
Date:
Dec 31, 2004
To Cliff and others,
George is right about getting training. I can attest first hand as to how
important it is. I sold my Lancair to a 10,000 hour Airforce pilot who said
he could handle anything. He put it on the tail the first flight and split
the rudder. Flying it wasn't the problem, landing it was. The industry and
your family don't need any kind of NTSB reports with your name on it. Get
smart, get trained and enjoy your airplane. Jerry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Clifford Dow" <cdowjr(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Ultralight-List: Looking for a Rans S-12 owner in New England
area - Maine
>
> Hello
> I just bought a single place Rans S-14 - i'm going to fly it from Virginai
back to Maine sometime between now and May.
> I have 150 hours TT in a C-152, C-172 & RV-7A (I built the RV-7A and flew
it for 55 hours).
> I have never flown an ultralight - i'd like to go up in one - a dual one
before trying to fly mine home with zero time in ultralights.
> is there anyone out there in the New England area with a Rans S-12 -
that's a two seater - If I could just go up with you a few times I think i'd
pick it up quick - I don't even need to land it - just let me fly around
once up there and get the feel and then maybe fly it down to within 20 feet
of landing and see how you land it - that would do the trick.
>
> thanks
> cliff jr
> Portland, Maine
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date:
Jan 07, 2005
Subject:
[PLEASE READ NOW] - Addressing Upgrade At Matronics TONIGHT!
Dear Listers,
Service Provider to upgrade to a larger IP subnet. I will be
re-addressing all of the machines on the network including the
Matronics Web Server and Matronics Email Server at that time. Name
Service will be updated at that time as well and most things should
work again pretty quick. There may be some bounced email for a few hours
or even a day or so as the new name-to-ip-address resolutions propagate
into the depths of the Internet.
If you have problems posting a message to one of the Lists or get a
bounced message back, please wait a couple of hours and try sending it
again. Generally, access to the web site should work within 1-hour of
Hopefully the transition will go smoothly and you'll hardly even
notice! :-)
Thanks for your patience!
Matt Dralle
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Date:
Jan 15, 2005
Subject:
[ Gary R. Voigt ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
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A new Email List Photo Share is available:
Poster: Gary R. Voigt
Subject: Kolb for Sale!!
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Feb 02, 2005
Subject:
[ Larry Cottrell ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
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Subject: kolb cockpit heater
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Feb 05, 2005
Subject:
[ Gary Algate ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
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Subject: Canadian X-Country Barrie Ont - Montebello Que+
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Feb 05, 2005
Subject:
[ Ellery Batchelder Jr ] : New Email List Photo Share
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Subject: Snow skis for winter flying
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Feb 05, 2005
Subject:
[ Steven Green ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
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Subject: Wing fold dolly for Kolb Mark III with handle.
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Date:
Feb 12, 2005
Subject:
[ Dennis Kirby ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
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Poster: Dennis Kirby
Subject: Kolb Tail Dolly
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil.02.12.2005/index.html
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Date:
Feb 19, 2005
Subject:
[ William Dale Gleason ] : New Email List Photo Share
Available!
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A new Email List Photo Share is available:
Poster: William Dale Gleason
Subject: Shamu blimp over Timmonsville, SC in 1991
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Date:
Mar 19, 2005
Subject:
[ Rick Pearce ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
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Poster: Rick Pearce
Subject: Landing Gear Legs
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Date:
Mar 19, 2005
Subject:
[ Duane the plane Mitchell ] : New Email List Photo Share
Available!
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Poster: Duane the plane Mitchell
Subject: Duane the plane's Kolb Mark III, 912
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Date:
Apr 16, 2005
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
[Please Read] Matronics Email Server Upgrade...
Dear Listers,
I will be upgrading the Matronics Email Server this weekend. This includes
some hardware improvements - more memory, faster, more capable processors -
as well as a complete operating system upgrade from scratch. I hope to
have both the old system and the new system running at the same time to
minimize the actual impact of the upgrade.
Hopefully there will be little actual downtime during the transition, but a
few posts may get lost in the shuffle. If you don't see your post show up
on the List in the normal amount of time (plus a little bit), then please
just try posting it again.
Upgrading the Matronics Email Server operating system (from Redhat Linux
7.2 to Redhat Linux WS 4) is a sizeable undertaking and requires a great
deal of work to port all of the utilities, programs, and scripts over to
the new system. As I've already mentioned, both the old and new systems
will be on line at the same time, so interruption should be held to an
absolute minimal. You might see a couple of odd test messages during the
cut-over or other odd messages; please just ignore them.
I have setup a new System Status Web Page that I will use to update List
Members on the current status of the email and web systems. Please refer
to it as often as you like:
http://www.matronics.com/SystemStatus/
Thank you for your continued support of the List Services at
Matronics! Its your yearly Contributions that make these major upgrades
possible!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Apr 17, 2005
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
[Please Read] Matronics Email Server Upgrade Complete!
Dear Listers,
The upgrade of the Matronics Email Server can be considered complete at
this time. All known issues related to the upgrade process have been
resolved and email services are running normal. The Nightly Digest
processing has not yet been tested and will wait for tonight's update.
If you encounter any odd behavior with respect to the Matronics Email
Server over the next few days, please contact me via email at
dralle(at)matronics.com or if that fails try dralle(at)speakeasy.net.
Thanks to everyone for being patient through this arduous process of a
major system upgrade!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
At 12:37 PM 4/16/2005 Saturday, Matt Dralle wrote:
>Dear Listers,
>
>I will be upgrading the Matronics Email Server this weekend. This
>includes some hardware improvements - more memory, faster, more capable
>processors - as well as a complete operating system upgrade from
>scratch. I hope to have both the old system and the new system running at
>the same time to minimize the actual impact of the upgrade.
>
>Hopefully there will be little actual downtime during the transition, but
>a few posts may get lost in the shuffle. If you don't see your post show
>up on the List in the normal amount of time (plus a little bit), then
>please just try posting it again.
>
>Upgrading the Matronics Email Server operating system (from Redhat Linux
>7.2 to Redhat Linux WS 4) is a sizeable undertaking and requires a great
>deal of work to port all of the utilities, programs, and scripts over to
>the new system. As I've already mentioned, both the old and new systems
>will be on line at the same time, so interruption should be held to an
>absolute minimal. You might see a couple of odd test messages during the
>cut-over or other odd messages; please just ignore them.
>
>I have setup a new System Status Web Page that I will use to update List
>Members on the current status of the email and web systems. Please refer
>to it as often as you like:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/SystemStatus/
>
>
>Thank you for your continued support of the List Services at
>Matronics! Its your yearly Contributions that make these major upgrades
>possible!
>
>Best regards,
>
>Matt Dralle
>Matronics Email List Administrator
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
May 02, 2005
Subject:
[ Lloyd McFarlane ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
From:
Email List Photo Shares <pictures(at)matronics.com>
A new Email List Photo Share is available:
Poster: Lloyd McFarlane
Lists: Kolb-List,Ultralight-List
Subject: Kolb FireStar II
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/lrmcf@ix.netcom.com.05.02.2005/index.html
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________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
May 02, 2005
Subject:
[ Mike Pierzina ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
From:
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A new Email List Photo Share is available:
Poster: Mike Pierzina
Lists: Kolb-List,Ultralight-List
Subject: 21 ft airplane on 10 ft trailer...
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/planecrazzzy@yahoo.com.05.02.2005/index.html
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________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Jun 01, 2005
From:
Clifford Dow <cdowjr(at)yahoo.com>
Subject:
Very nice RANS S-14 for sale - single place
Hello
i'm selling a very nice Rans S-14 on ebay right now - anyone interested it's item
# 4553600262
503 rotax powered, holds enough fuel for about 6 hours - 31 foot wing span. picture
are on the ebay site.
thanks
cliff in Maine.
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Jun 11, 2005
Subject:
[ Terry Davis ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
From:
Email List Photo Shares <pictures(at)matronics.com>
A new Email List Photo Share is available:
Poster: Terry Davis
Lists: Kolb-List,Ultralight-List
Subject: Kolbs at the Alvord
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/davistcs@eoni.com.06.11.2005/index.html
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________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Jun 11, 2005
Subject:
[ Scott Perkins ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
From:
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A new Email List Photo Share is available:
Poster: Scott Perkins <2scott(at)bellsouth.net>
Lists: Kolb-List,Ultralight-List
Subject: Primm's broken gear-leg / strut-connect
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/2scott@bellsouth.net.06.11.2005/index.html
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________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Jun 11, 2005
Subject:
[ Jimmy Hankinson ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
From:
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A new Email List Photo Share is available:
Poster: Jimmy Hankinson
Lists: Kolb-List,Ultralight-List
Subject: Jimmy Hankinson Full Enclosure
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/jhankin@planters.net.06.11.2005/index.html
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________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Jun 11, 2005
Subject:
[ Larry Bourne ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
From:
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A new Email List Photo Share is available:
Poster: Larry Bourne
Lists: Kolb-List,Ultralight-List
Subject: Monument Valley Trip
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/biglar@gogittum.com.06.11.2005/index.html
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________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Jun 18, 2005
Subject:
[ Dave Pelletier (AzDave) ] : New Email List Photo Share
Available!
From:
Email List Photo Shares <pictures(at)matronics.com>
A new Email List Photo Share is available:
Poster: Dave Pelletier (AzDave)
Lists: Kolb-List,Ultralight-List
Subject: "Tie Up" Straps
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/pelletier@cableone.net.06.18.2005/index.html
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________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Jul 02, 2005
Subject:
[ Denny Rowe ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
From:
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A new Email List Photo Share is available:
Poster: Denny Rowe
Lists: Kolb-List,Ultralight-List
Subject: Tony Oneals Mk-3 Extra he calls Puff
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________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Jul 02, 2005
Subject:
[ Mike Pierzina ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
From:
Email List Photo Shares <pictures(at)matronics.com>
A new Email List Photo Share is available:
Poster: Mike Pierzina
Lists: Kolb-List,Ultralight-List
Subject: Taxi for the inspector
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/planecrazzzy@yahoo.com.07.02.2005/index.html
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________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Jul 14, 2005
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
List Digest Truncation Fixed!!
Dear Listers,
I finally figured out today what was causing the occasional
truncation of the daily List Digest emails. Seems that every once in
a while a message would contain a single "." (period) on line all by
itself. The mailers would see this and assume that this was the
universal emailer signal for "end of message", and consequently
wouldn't process any of the rest of the Digest message.
I've put in a filter today to remove any of these sequences so we
should be back in business on the Digests.
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin.
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
[ Ellery Batchelder Jr ] : New Email List Photo Share
Available!
From:
Email List Photo Shares <pictures(at)matronics.com>
A new Email List Photo Share is available:
Poster: Ellery Batchelder Jr
Lists: Kolb-List,Ultralight-List
Subject: REBUILD on ORIGINAL FIRESTAR
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/ElleryWeld@aol.com.08.13.2005/index.html
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________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Aug 20, 2005
Subject:
[ Ellery Batchelder Jr ] : New Email List Photo Share
Available!
From:
Email List Photo Shares <pictures(at)matronics.com>
A new Email List Photo Share is available:
Poster: Ellery Batchelder Jr
Lists: Kolb-List,Ultralight-List
Subject: End Results of Rebuild
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/ElleryWeld@aol.com.08.20.2005/index.html
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________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Sep 06, 2005
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
Matronics Web Server Upgrade Today Tuesday 09/06/05 5pm
PDT
Dear Listers,
I will be taking the Matronics Web Server down for a few hours today,
Tuesday September 6 2005 for a chassis upgrade. Archive browsing and
searching along with subscription services will be unavailable for
be processed normally during the upgrade. Please check the Matronics
System Status Page for updates (although this page resides on the web
server and won't be available during the upgrade):
http://www.matronics.com/SystemStatus/
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin.
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Sep 11, 2005
Subject:
ExperCraft build log
From:
"Robert Riggen" <rob(at)riggen.org>
Fellow builders,
This is an invite to those who need a method for creating a project log
and Web site.
Even if you've already started your log using another system this one is
worth a look.
ExperCraft Simple Log is free for builders and is a great way to create a
comprehensive log and Web site. It's very easy to use.
http://www.expercraft.com
Enjoy!
Rob
--
Rob Riggen
building a Vans RV7
http://websites.expercraft.com/rriggen
________________________________________________________________________________
Good Day all
Im looking for two partners to justify purchasing a flying
CH601HD (advanced ultralight registration) with Rotax 912ul 1100TTSN. Base
to be in reasonable distance from Cambridge. I need $12K each to make it
happen. The aircraft was 85% factory built. Please email me direct for
details.
Darren Pond
Cambridge Ontario Canada
pilotpond(at)rogers.com
Live to Play and Play to Live
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"George Bass" <gtb(at)commspeed.net>
Subject:
Re: looking for partners for a flying CH601HD
Date:
Sep 18, 2005
How come I never get the opportunity to get
into something like this, anywhere near my
home?
What a terrific chance to be part owner in a
well-proven, historically sound, all metal plane
with a powerplant that is equally respected
for its dependability.
Good luck to you, and your partners,
George Bass
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Oct 23, 2005
Subject:
[ Mike Pierzina ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
From:
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A new Email List Photo Share is available:
Poster: Mike Pierzina
Lists: Kolb-List,Ultralight-List
Subject: First Flight in my Kolb - Firestar II
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/planecrazzzy@yahoo.com.10.23.2005/index.html
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________________________________________________________________________________
From:
EMAproducts(at)aol.com
Date:
Oct 26, 2005
Subject:
Re: Panther 2 Plus
Hello all Ultralight / "Heavy" ultralight owners
Does anyone out there have a flying Panther 2 Plus by Rotec?
I am attempting to restore N124RE, but several pieces are missing and the
struts and spars are damaged, there are 3 different wall thickness of tubing.
I
have a complete manual but it does not give any information on "major" parts,
however every rivet, nut & bolt is listed.
Also is anybody still making sails for the Panther 12 Plus?
Any and all information appreciated. I get info via digest so will answer
any messages next day.
Thanks,
Elbie Mendenhall
EM Aviation, LLC
Brush Prairie, WA
360-260-0772
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Date:
Jan 01, 2006
Subject:
[ Ralph Hoover ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
From:
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A new Email List Photo Share is available:
Poster: Ralph Hoover
Lists: Kolb-List,Ultralight-List
Subject: New Dash / Gauge package Kolb Firestar KXP 1990 w/503 DCDI
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Date:
Jan 01, 2006
Subject:
[ Ralph Hoover ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
From:
Email List Photo Shares <pictures(at)matronics.com>
A new Email List Photo Share is available:
Poster: Ralph Hoover
Lists: Kolb-List,Ultralight-List
Subject: Old gauges from Kolb Firestar KXP 1990 w/503 DCDI
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________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Jan 09, 2006
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
All New BBS Interface For Matronics List Forums!
Dear Listers,
I'm very proud to announce a completely new BBS interface is now available for
all of the Email Lists at Matronics! This is a full-featured system that allows
for viewing, posting, attachments, polls - the works.
But the best part is that it is *completely* integrated with all of the existing
email tools currently available at Matronics! What this means at the most basic
level is that, if you post a message to List from Email in the traditional
way, it will show up on the BBS system *and* get distributed to everyone currently
subscribed to the Email List. By the same token, if you are on the BBS
and post a message to a given List-Forum, the message will not only show up on
the BBS, but also be distributed to everyone on the Email List!!
It is really a very nice implementation and I am very pleased with its operation.
All of the tools you have come to know and love such as the List Search Engine
and List Browse and Download will still be available and contain all of the
latest posts. Think of the new BBS interface as just another method of accessing
the all of the Lists.
You can use the BBS to view all of the latest posts without having to do anything
except use your browser to surf over to the site. You can view and look at
all of the various List's posts. If you want to post a new message or reply
to an existing message from the BBS, you will have to Register on the BBS. This
is a *very* simple process and will only take a couple of minutes. There is
a small icon in the upper righthand side of the main BBS page labeled "Register"
to get you started.
I strongly recommend that you use the exact *same* email address you are subscribed
to the Email Lists with when registering on the BBS. Also, while not an
absolute requirement, I would really appreciate it if people would use their full
name when choosing their Username on the BBS (for example "Matt Dralle").
This just makes it easier for everyone to know who's posting. Also, I have enabled
the ability to upload a small user picture with your profile called an
"avatar". Please use a *real* picture of yourself *with* your cloths on! Thank
you! Maximum size of the bitmap is 120x120.
You can either be subscribed to the BBS, or any number of Email Lists, or both.
Registering on the BBS will allow you to email directly to all of the various
Lists. However, to receive direct List Email, you will need to be *subscribed*
to the various Lists as you have in the past. No changes here in operation.
I have added numerous links on the BBS pointing to the Email List subscription
page.
I've had the BBS connected to the Lists for about a week now, so its already loaded
up with a fair number of messages. You can post photos and other documents
directly to the BBS and links to them will appear in the List Email distributions.
Also, when any messages posted to the BBS are viewed in the List Email
distribution, there will be a URL link at the bottom of the message pointing
back to the BBS.
And here's what you've been waiting for -- the main URL for the new Matronics Email
List BBS is:
http://forums.matronics.com
Please surf on over, Register, and have a great time! I think this will be the
dawn of a whole new era for the Lists at Matronics!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Jan 12, 2006
Subject:
[ Dave Pelletier ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
From:
Email List Photo Shares <pictures(at)matronics.com>
A new Email List Photo Share is available:
Poster: Dave Pelletier
Lists: Kolb-List,Ultralight-List
Subject: Tie Down Lock - Control Stick
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/pelletier@cableone.net.01.12.2006/index.html
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________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"Gary M. Stanley" <gstanley(at)tampabay.rr.com>
Subject:
SlipStream Genesis
Date:
Jan 15, 2006
Does anyone out there own a SlipStream Genesis, or currently building one or Know
anything about them and the Company. I am thinking of buying a Project Genesis,
and have acouple of questions. Any Pro's or Con's would be appreciated.
Thanks
Gary
gstanley(at)tampabay.rr.com
352-302-3850
Crystal River, Fl
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From:
EMAproducts(at)aol.com
Date:
Jan 16, 2006
Subject:
Re: Ultralight-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 01/15/06
In a message dated 1/16/2006 12:09:37 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
ultralight-list-digest(at)matronics.com writes:
Gary
gstanley(at)tampabay.rr.com
352-302-3850
Crystal River, Fl
Gary,
I have a customer that is finishing up a Genesis. I'm sure that is the
model, I'll e-mail him and see what I can find out (if his e-mail address is
current) He has one of my RiteAngle IIIb AOA systems on it for safety as he is
going into float flying and wants an easy way to do glassy water landings.
If you don't hear from me in a couple days send me an e-mail
_riteangle3(at)aol.com_ (mailto:riteangle3(at)aol.com)
Elbie
Fly the Safe Angle with the RiteAngle
EM Aviation, LLC
13411 NE Prairie Rd
Brush Prairie, WA 98696
www.riteangle.com
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Jan 29, 2006
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
Six New Email Lists / Forums At Matronics!
Dear Listers,
Its my pleasure to announce the addition of six new Email List / Forums to the
aviation line up at Matronics! These new lists support all the usual features
you've come to know and love from the Matronics Email List including full integration
with the All New Web BBS Forums Site!! The new Lists include:
LycomingEngines-List Textron/Lycoming Engines
RotaxEngines-List Rotax Engine for Aircraft
M14PEngines-List Vendenyev M14P Radial Engine
MurphyMoose-List Murphy Moose Aircraft
Allegro-List Allegro 2000, a Czech-built, Rotax-powered Aircraft
Falco-List Sequoia Aircraft's Falco Experimental
To sign up for any or all of the new Lists, surf over to the Matronics Email List
Subscription Form and follow the instructions:
http://www.matronics.com/subscribe
Don't forget to check out the All New Web BBS Forum now available along with all
of the usual message and archive viewing tools at the Matronics Email Lists
site. Surf over to the following URL for information on the BBS Forum:
http://forums.matronics.com
Enjoy the new Lists!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Jan 30, 2006
Subject:
[ Ron Wehba ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
From:
Email List Photo Shares <pictures(at)matronics.com>
A new Email List Photo Share is available:
Poster: Ron Wehba
Lists: Kolb-List,Ultralight-List
Subject: My Old Ultrastar - Looking for it...
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/rwehba@pegasusbb.com.01.30.2006/index.html
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pictures(at)matronics.com
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Jan 30, 2006
Subject:
[ Robert Mason ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
From:
Email List Photo Shares <pictures(at)matronics.com>
A new Email List Photo Share is available:
Poster: Robert Mason
Lists: Kolb-List,Ultralight-List
Subject: My Plane
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/masonclan@sbcglobal.net.01.30.2006/index.html
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________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Feb 11, 2006
Subject:
[ Jim815544(at)aol.com ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
From:
Email List Photo Shares <pictures(at)matronics.com>
A new Email List Photo Share is available:
Poster: Jim815544(at)aol.com
Lists: Kolb-List,Ultralight-List
Subject: Ron's old girl
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________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Feb 11, 2006
Subject:
[ Eugene Zimmerman ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
From:
Email List Photo Shares <pictures(at)matronics.com>
A new Email List Photo Share is available:
Poster: Eugene Zimmerman
Lists: Kolb-List,Ultralight-List
Subject: Kolb Firestar Modifications
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________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Apr 01, 2006
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
Matronics Email List Wiki!
Dear Listers,
I have added a new feature to the Email List Forums at Matronics called a Wiki. What's "Wiki" you ask? A Wiki is a website. You go to it and browse just like you would any other web site. The difference is, you can change it. You can put anything you want on this web site without having to be a web designer or even being the owner. You can write a new page just like writing an email message on the BBS. You don't need to send it off to anyone to install on the site. It is kind of like a Blog (weblog) in which anyone can post. Here is a great page on where the term Wiki came from and what it means in the context of a website: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki
So on to the new Matronics Email List Wiki... I've created this site for anyone
from any of the Email Lists to use. I envision that there are a great many
things that can be added to this new Wiki since there are always new and interesting
tidbits of useful information traversing the Lists.
Off the main Matronics Email List Wiki page, you will find a link called "Community
Portal". Here you will find more links to stubs for all the various Lists
found at Matronics (and a few other links). Brian Lloyd and others from the
Yak-List have already begun adding content in a number of areas. Bob Nuckolls
of AeroElectric fame has added a great article on "Ageing Aircraft".
I have discussed the new Matronics Email List Wiki with Tedd McHenry and Dwight Frye of the RV Wiki Site and they have decided to merge their site over onto the new Matronics Wiki server giving everyone a single source for information on RV building and flying! This migration will begin today and you should be able to find all of the content currently found at www.rvwiki.org moved over to the Matronics Wiki within a few days.
To make edits to the Matronics Wiki, you will need to have a login account on the
Matronics Wiki and I have disabled anonymous edits. This protects the Wiki
site from automated spam engines and other nuisances that could compromise the
data at the site.
Signing up for an account is fast and easy and begins by clicking on the "create
an account or log in" link in the upper right hand corner of any page. Note
that you do not have to have a login or be logged in to view any of the content.
The Matronics Email List Wiki is YOUR Wiki! It is only as useful as the content
found within. The concept of the Wiki is that the people the use it and update
it. If you've got an interesting procedure for doing something, MAKE A WIKI
PAGE ON IT! You can even upload pictures. Saw something interesting at a
flyin? MAKE A WIKI PAGE ON IT! Don't be shy, this is YOUR site to share information
with others with similar interests.
Here is a users guide on using the Wiki implemented at Matronics: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Contents This gives a lot of great information on how to get started editing pages.
And finally, here is the URL for the Matronics Email List Wiki:
http://wiki.matronics.com
Brian Lloyd has written an excellent introduction to Wikis on the front page.
I encourage you to read it over, then drill into the "Community Portal" and HAVE
FUN!!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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From:
"Rob Stapleton" <foto(at)alaska.net>
Subject:
Registering ELSA and the practical test
Date:
Apr 20, 2006
What are the common changes DARs are looking for in a two place weight shift
for the re-registration of a two place weight shift with an exemption to a
two place experimental light sport aircraft? And does anyone have experience
with the practical (flight) test?
RS
Rob Stapleton Photojournalist
Anchorage Alaska
907-336-9425
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"Rob Stapleton" <foto(at)alaska.net>
Subject:
Wing ASTM
Date:
Apr 23, 2006
Have any of the weight shift trikes had the wings certified together with
the trike for a Sport Pilot certification? And if so which? This is not
something that we hear much about, and I am wondering if a wing is
certified, why can't the trike under it be certified under ELSA? For example
Antares is a sound trike that has been certified under Microlight status in
Germany, and so have the Aeros wings. But the trikes are lacking a manual
and certification, so why can a wing carry the certification, much as it
does the lift, and the weight?
RS
Rob Stapleton Photojournalist
Anchorage Alaska
907-336-9425
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From:
"Rob Stapleton" <foto(at)alaska.net>
Subject:
Aero Prop
Date:
May 02, 2006
Does anyone have blades for an Aero three bladed propeller? This has the
faired tips for noise reduction and are made in the Ukraine!
RS
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"Rob Stapleton" <foto(at)alaska.net>
Subject:
Propeller ?
Date:
May 02, 2006
Is there anyone on this list who has a propeller (new) that would work on a
Rotax 582 E gearbox? I am looking for replacement blades for an Aero prop
but my dealer just left the country.
Thanks,
RS
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"Rob Stapleton" <foto(at)alaska.net>
Subject:
Flying without a Sport Pilot License?
Date:
May 11, 2006
Does anyone know what the penalty is for flying an N numbered Experimental
Motor Glider without a license, or flying an ELSA before you have a Sport
Pilot license? A friend of mine just crashed an N numbered Ex motor glider
and we can't find what the fines will be..! Any help will be really
appreciated by an ultralight pilot who flew and crashed an N numbered
ultralight!
RS
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject:
Flying without a Sport Pilot License?
Date:
May 12, 2006
From:
<harvey.rule(at)bell.ca>
Wait till they hand you the fine and then you'll know.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ultralight-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-ultralight-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob
Stapleton
Sent: May 12, 2006 3:29 AM
Subject: Ultralight-List: Flying without a Sport Pilot License?
Does anyone know what the penalty is for flying an N numbered
Experimental
Motor Glider without a license, or flying an ELSA before you have a
Sport
Pilot license? A friend of mine just crashed an N numbered Ex motor
glider
and we can't find what the fines will be..! Any help will be really
appreciated by an ultralight pilot who flew and crashed an N numbered
ultralight!
RS
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
May 12, 2006
From:
"Mark Blackwell" <markb1958(at)verizon.net>
Subject:
Fines
Rob your friend is in an area where so much of it is up to the inspector.
The first place he needs to call is the AOPA. If he isn't a member he needs
to join. The next thing he needs is an aviation attorney. I do it will
expensive enough that it will easily justfiy having an attorney at least
provide advise, if not represent you directly with the FAA. I don't know
amounts, but I personally would be surprised if its less than $10,000 and
getting a ticket now for at least a year is not going to be likely either.
He also becomes responsible for anything else they might happen to find
wrong with the airplane, paperwork or otherwise and of course the ever
present careless and reckless which will also likely be added.
Hope things work out ok.
Does anyone know what the penalty is for flying an N numbered Experimental
Motor Glider without a license, or flying an ELSA before you have a Sport
Pilot license? A friend of mine just crashed an N numbered Ex motor glider
and we can't find what the fines will be..! Any help will be really
appreciated by an ultralight pilot who flew and crashed an N numbered
ultralight!
RS
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"Rob Stapleton" <foto(at)alaska.net>
Subject:
Registering ELSA?
Date:
May 18, 2006
How many out there are registering their two place ultralights, either
weight shift or tri axis as an ELSA and how long did it take? Are you still
waiting for your paperwork?
Rob Stapleton
Anchorage, AK
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier(at)cableone.net>
Subject:
Re: Registering ELSA?
Date:
May 22, 2006
Rob,
I registered my MK III as ELSA. Took about 3 weeks to get the "N"
number then a month to find a DAR to do the airworthiness inspection and
paperwork was "ended" right then and there.
AzDave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob Stapleton" <foto(at)alaska.net>
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 12:08 AM
Subject: Ultralight-List: Registering ELSA?
>
> How many out there are registering their two place ultralights, either
> weight shift or tri axis as an ELSA and how long did it take? Are you
> still
> waiting for your paperwork?
>
> Rob Stapleton
>
> Anchorage, AK
>
>
> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety
> deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
May 22, 2006
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
Matronics BBS Forums
Hello Listers,
I just wanted to send out a reminder to all of the Listers regarding the new-ish
BBS (Bulletin Board System) Forums that are available at Matronics for the Email
Lists. The BBS Forums give you Web-based access into the same email content
that is generated by the Email Lists. When an email message is posted to
any of the email lists, a copy of the message is also copied to the respective
List forum section on in the BBS Forums. By the same token, when a message is
posted within the BBS Forum interface context, it will also be posted to the
respective email list.
Basically, the BBS Forums give you yet another method of accessing the Matronics
Email List content. Some people prefer email, some prefer web forums; now you
can have it either way or both with the Matronics Lists!
You'll have to register for a login/password on the BBS Forum to _post_ from the
BBS, but you can view message content without registering for an account. To
Register for an account, look for the link at the top of the main BBS Forum
page entitled "Register". Click on it and follow the instructions. Site Administrator
approval will be required (to keep spammers out), but I will try to
get these approved in less than 24 hours.
If you haven't yet taken a look at the Matronics Email List content over on the
BBS Forum, surf on over and take a peek. Its pretty cool. The URL is:
http://forums.matronics.com
I want to stress that the BBS Forums are simply an adjunct to the existing Matronics
Email Lists; another way of viewing and interacting with the Matronics List
content. If you like Email, great. If you like Web Forums, great. If you
like both, great. Its up to you how you view and create your content.
You will also find a URL link at the bottom of this email called Matronics List
Features Navigator. You can click on this link at any time to find URL links
to all of the other great features available on the Matronics site like the Archive
Search Engine, List Browse, List Download, FAQs, Wiki, and lots more.
There is a specific Navigator for each Email List and the link for this specific
List is shown below.
Thanks for all the great list participation and support; it is greatly appreciated!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"Rob Stapleton" <foto(at)alaska.net>
Subject:
10 mm Castle Nut
Date:
May 28, 2006
Does anyone know where I can get a 10MM Castlenut for an Aeros Stranger 2M
hangblock bolt, fitted to an Antares MA-33. No one here in Alaska has one.
Thanks,
Rob Stapleton
Anchorage, AK
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
May 29, 2006
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
Two New Email Lists at Matronics and Wiki Reminder!
Dear Listers,
I have added two new email Lists to the Matronics Line up today. These include
a Continental engine List and a Lightning aircraft List:
===========
continental-list(at)matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Continental-List
Everything related to the Continental aircraft engine. Sky's the limit on discussions
here.
===========
===========
lightning-list(at)matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List
This is an exciting new design from Arion Aircraft LLC in Shelbyville Tennessee. Pete Krotje has a very nice web site on the aircraft that can be found here: http://www.arionaircraft.com/
===========
Also, if you haven't checked out the new Matronics Aircraft Wiki, swing by and
have a look. Remember, a Wiki is only as good as the content that the members
put into it. Have a look over some of the sections, and if you've got some interesting
or useful, please add it to the Wiki! Its all about YOU! :-) The
URL for the Matronics Wiki is:
http://wiki.matronics.com
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
May 29, 2006
From:
Gary Gower <ggower_99(at)yahoo.com>
Subject:
Re: 10 mm Castle Nut
Hi Rob,
I have at least 3, you can have 1 or 2 for free. Dont know about shipping and
customs paperwork (If needed)... We can ask FEDEX or UPS for details.
Please contact me off list.
Saludos
Gary Gower
Flying from Chapala, Mexico.
Ex Trike pilot (Air Creation w/Stranger wing)
Rob Stapleton wrote:
Does anyone know where I can get a 10MM Castlenut for an Aeros Stranger 2M
hangblock bolt, fitted to an Antares MA-33. No one here in Alaska has one.
Thanks,
Rob Stapleton
Anchorage, AK
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin
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________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Jun 01, 2006
Subject:
[ Dave Kulp ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
From:
Email List Photo Shares <pictures(at)matronics.com>
A new Email List Photo Share is available:
Poster: Dave Kulp
Lists: Kolb-List,Ultralight-List
Subject: Kolb Pictures
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/undoctor@rcn.com.06.01.2006/index.html
----------------------------------------------------------
o Main Photo Share Index
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
o Submitting a Photo Share
If you wish to submit a Photo Share of your own, please include the
following information along with your email message and files:
1) Email List or Lists that they are related to:
2) Your Full Name:
3) Your Email Address:
4) One line Subject description:
5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic:
6) One-line Description of each photo or file:
Email the information above and your files and photos to:
pictures(at)matronics.com
----------------------------------------------------------
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Jun 03, 2006
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
List Enclosure Support
Dear Listers,
Over the years, I have resisted the urge to enable enclosure support on the Matronics
Lists for a number of reasons relating to performance, capacity, capability,
and security. However, its now 2006 and most everyone using email these
days is on an email client that, at some level, supports the viewing and handling
of enclosures. I get a fair amount of email each month from people on the
various Lists asking why their posts of this or that picture didn't go through.
Back quite a while ago by popular request, I enabled enclosure support for a few
Lists such as the RV10-List, Kolb-List, and the Tailwind-List. Contrary to
my fears, there really hasn't been any significant issues on these Lists relating
to the advent of enclosure support and for the most part, members have policed
themselves well with respect to the size of things they have posted.
Having enclosures enabled on some Lists and not others has given me a fair amount
of headaches with respect to filtering messages and content since the formats
are often quite different between a typical MIME encoded message and a generic
plain-text message. The spammers are getting more cleaver all the time and
are constantly trying to thwart my best efforts at keeping them from posting
to the Lists.
So, for these reasons, I've have decided to go ahead and enable limited enclosure
posting on all of the email Lists at Matronics. This will not only increase
the utility of the Lists, but will afford me a better opportunity to filter
out the chaff.
Here are some of the features and limits of enclosures on the Matronics Lists:
1) Enclosures will only be posted to the Real Time version of the
Lists.
2) Enclosures will NOT be included in the Daily Digest version of
the Lists.
3) Enclosures WILL BE forwarded on to the BBS Forum Web site.
4) Enclosures will NOT be appended to the Archives.
5) Enclosures will NOT be available in the List Browse feature.
6) Only the following file types and extensions will be allowed:
jpg, bmp, gif, txt, xls, pdf, and doc
All other enclosures types will be rejected and email returned to
sender. The enclosure types listed above are relatively safe from
a virus standpoint and don't pose a particularly large security risk.
7) !! All incoming enclosures will be scanned for viruses prior to posting
to the List. This is done in real time and will not slow down
the process of posting the message !!
Here are some rules for posting enclosures. Failure to abide by these rules could
result in the removal of a subscriber's email address from the Lists.
1) Pay attention to what you are posting!! Make sure that the files
you are enclosing aren't HUGE (greater that 1MB). Remember that there
are still people checking they're email via dial up modem. If you post
30MB worth of pictures, you are placing an unnecessary burden on these
folks and the rest of us, for that matter.
2) SCALE YOUR PICTURES DOWN!!! I don't want to see huge 3000 x 2000
pictures getting posted that are 3 or 4MB each. This is just
unacceptable. Use a program such as Photoshop to scale the picture
down to something on the order of 800 x 600 and try to keep the
file size to less-than 200KB, preferably much less.
Microsoft has a really awesome utility available for free that allows
you to Right-Click on a picture in Explorer and automatically
scale it down and resave it. This is a great utility - get it, use it!
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx
Look for the link "Image Resizer"
3) !! This would seem to go without saying, but I'll say it anyway. Do not
post anything that would be considered offensive by your grandmother.
And you know what I'm saying; I don't want to see anything even
questionable. !!
4) REMEMBER THIS: If you post a 1MB enclosure to a List with 1000 members
subscribed, your 1MB enclosure must be resent 1000 times amounting
to 1MB X 1000 = 1 Gigabyte of network traffic!! BE CAREFUL and BE COURTEOUS!
I hope everyone will enjoy the added functionality of enclosures. Please police
yourself and use good judgement when posting messages with enclosures using
the guidelines I've outlined above.
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Jun 10, 2006
Subject:
[ Richard Miles ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
From:
Email List Photo Shares <pictures(at)matronics.com>
A new Email List Photo Share is available:
Poster: Richard Miles
Lists: Kolb-List,Ultralight-List
Subject: Kolb US Pictures
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/ultrastarrick@yahoo.com.06.10.2006/index.html
----------------------------------------------------------
o Main Photo Share Index
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
o Submitting a Photo Share
If you wish to submit a Photo Share of your own, please include the
following information along with your email message and files:
1) Email List or Lists that they are related to:
2) Your Full Name:
3) Your Email Address:
4) One line Subject description:
5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic:
6) One-line Description of each photo or file:
Email the information above and your files and photos to:
pictures(at)matronics.com
----------------------------------------------------------
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Jun 15, 2006
Subject:
[ Will Uribe ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
From:
Email List Photo Shares <pictures(at)matronics.com>
A new Email List Photo Share is available:
Poster: Will Uribe
Lists: Kolb-List,Ultralight-List
Subject: Kolb Trailers
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/WillUribe@aol.com.06.15.2006/index.html
----------------------------------------------------------
o Main Photo Share Index
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
o Submitting a Photo Share
If you wish to submit a Photo Share of your own, please include the
following information along with your email message and files:
1) Email List or Lists that they are related to:
2) Your Full Name:
3) Your Email Address:
4) One line Subject description:
5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic:
6) One-line Description of each photo or file:
Email the information above and your files and photos to:
pictures(at)matronics.com
----------------------------------------------------------
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
Email List Photo Shares <pictures(at)matronics.com>
Date:
Jul 04, 2006
Subject:
[ Wayne McCullough ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
A new Email List Photo Share is available:
Poster: Wayne McCullough
Lists: Kolb-List,Ultralight-List
Subject: Kolbra 004
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/blackbird754@alltel.net.07.04.2006/index.html
----------------------------------------------------------
o Main Photo Share Index
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
o Submitting a Photo Share
If you wish to submit a Photo Share of your own, please include the
following information along with your email message and files:
1) Email List or Lists that they are related to:
2) Your Full Name:
3) Your Email Address:
4) One line Subject description:
5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic:
6) One-line Description of each photo or file:
Email the information above and your files and photos to:
pictures(at)matronics.com
----------------------------------------------------------
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
Email List Photo Shares <pictures(at)matronics.com>
Date:
Jul 04, 2006
Subject:
[ John Ratcliffe ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
A new Email List Photo Share is available:
Poster: John Ratcliffe
Lists: Kolb-List,Ultralight-List
Subject: Mark 3X Wing Fold Fitting Modification
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/imagemasters@bellsouth.net.07.04.2006/index.html
----------------------------------------------------------
o Main Photo Share Index
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
o Submitting a Photo Share
If you wish to submit a Photo Share of your own, please include the
following information along with your email message and files:
1) Email List or Lists that they are related to:
2) Your Full Name:
3) Your Email Address:
4) One line Subject description:
5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic:
6) One-line Description of each photo or file:
Email the information above and your files and photos to:
pictures(at)matronics.com
----------------------------------------------------------
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"William Bowditch" <techauthors(at)msn.com>
Date:
Jul 17, 2006
Subject:
Ultralight for Sale
A C.G.S. Hawk Single Place Classic Arrow ultralight which has been "N"
numbered as experimental. The engine is a three cylinder Suzuki with
approximately 62 HP, the Raven redrive and a 72", three bladed Ivo prop.
The 1998 engine has about 40 hours total time since installation on this
owner built Hawk.
Total cost has been over $19,000.00. I will sell it for $15,000.00 our
best offer. My health and family will not permit me to fly. Call me at
(269) 324-5803 or at my e-mail address above. I can e-mail photos, if
requested.
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
Email List Photo Shares <pictures(at)matronics.com>
Date:
Jul 22, 2006
Subject:
[ Edward Steuber ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
A new Email List Photo Share is available:
Poster: Edward Steuber
Lists: Kolb-List,Ultralight-List
Subject: Modified Ultrastar
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/esteuber@rochester.rr.com.07.22.2006/index.html
----------------------------------------------------------
o Main Photo Share Index
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
o Submitting a Photo Share
If you wish to submit a Photo Share of your own, please include the
following information along with your email message and files:
1) Email List or Lists that they are related to:
2) Your Full Name:
3) Your Email Address:
4) One line Subject description:
5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic:
6) One-line Description of each photo or file:
Email the information above and your files and photos to:
pictures(at)matronics.com
----------------------------------------------------------
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
Email List Photo Shares <pictures(at)matronics.com>
Date:
Jul 23, 2006
Subject:
[ Arty Trost ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
A new Email List Photo Share is available:
Poster: Arty Trost
Lists: Kolb-List,Ultralight-List
Subject: New paint job
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/thewanderingwench@yahoo.com.07.23.2006/index.html
----------------------------------------------------------
o Main Photo Share Index
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
o Submitting a Photo Share
If you wish to submit a Photo Share of your own, please include the
following information along with your email message and files:
1) Email List or Lists that they are related to:
2) Your Full Name:
3) Your Email Address:
4) One line Subject description:
5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic:
6) One-line Description of each photo or file:
Email the information above and your files and photos to:
pictures(at)matronics.com
----------------------------------------------------------
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Date:
Jul 31, 2006
Subject:
Matronics Email List Web Server Upgrade Tonight...
Dear Listers,
This evening I will be upgrading the Matronics Web Server hardware to a new Quad-processor
2.8Ghz Xeon system (yes, 4-physical CPUs!) with an Ultra 320 SCSI
Raid 5 disk system and 5GB of DDR2 RAM.
As with the older system, the new system will be running the latest version of
Redhat Linux. Most of the software configuration work is already done for the
migration, but I still have to sync all of the archive and forum data from the
old system to the new system. I am anticipating about 2 to 3 hours of downtime
for me to fully make the transition, although it could be considerable less
if everything goes according to plan.
The Matronics Webserver will be *UNavailable* from the Internet during the work,
and you will receive a time-out if you try to connect during the upgrade.
Email List Distribution will be *available* during the upgrade of the Web Server,
and List message distribution will function as normal.
This represents a significant performance upgrade for the Matronics Web Server
and you should notice nicely improved searching and surfing performance following
the upgrade!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Aug 06, 2006
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
New Incoming Message Size Limit Implemented...
Dear Listers,
Due to a number of requests to limit the size of incoming posts to the Lists because
of the recently added enclosure feature, I have add a new filter that will
limit the total size of any given message posted to the List. I have initially
set the limit to 2MB
and we'll see how everyone likes that.
If a member attempts to post a message that is greater than the set limit, they
will receive an email back indicating that their message wasn't posted to the
List and why. Also included in the message will be the current size limit and
how large their message
was.
Some might say that 2MB is still too large, but its a place to start...
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"Rob Stapleton" <foto(at)alaska.net>
Subject:
Antares Info
Date:
Aug 25, 2006
Does anyone out there have an Owner manual for an Antares, or done the
weight and balance for an MA-33 with a Stranger 2M wing?
If not and you want these for an airworthiness inspection or for your own
info please contact me at this e-mail address.
Rob Stapleton
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin
________________________________________________________________________________
[ Mickey Morgan ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
From:
Email List Photo Shares <pictures(at)matronics.com>
A new Email List Photo Share is available:
Poster: Mickey Morgan
Lists: Kolb-List,Ultralight-List
Subject: Firefly with Thunderbird graphics in absolutely pristine condition
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/Stingermanmlm@wmconnect.com.10.03.2006/index.html
----------------------------------------------------------
o Main Photo Share Index
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
o Submitting a Photo Share
If you wish to submit a Photo Share of your own, please include the
following information along with your email message and files:
1) Email List or Lists that they are related to:
2) Your Full Name:
3) Your Email Address:
4) One line Subject description:
5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic:
6) One-line Description of each photo or file:
Email the information above and your files and photos to:
pictures(at)matronics.com
----------------------------------------------------------
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Oct 21, 2006
Subject:
[ Ellery Weld ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
From:
Email List Photo Shares <pictures(at)matronics.com>
A new Email List Photo Share is available:
Poster: Ellery Weld
Lists: Kolb-List,Ultralight-List,Engines-List,Jabiru-List
Subject: Cabin Heater on a Fan Cooled Engine
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/ElleryWeld@aol.com.10.21.2006/index.html
----------------------------------------------------------
o Main Photo Share Index
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
o Submitting a Photo Share
If you wish to submit a Photo Share of your own, please include the
following information along with your email message and files:
1) Email List or Lists that they are related to:
2) Your Full Name:
3) Your Email Address:
4) One line Subject description:
5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic:
6) One-line Description of each photo or file:
Email the information above and your files and photos to:
pictures(at)matronics.com
----------------------------------------------------------
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Oct 29, 2006
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
Comcast Was Blocking Matronics Email Lists...
Dear Listers (Specifically Comcast Listers),
For about the last two days, Comcast was blocking incoming email from the Matronics
Email Lists because their spam filters thought the mail was spam. I was
that people on Comcast are receiving List messages again.
If you are a Comcast user, you might want to email them and express your displeasure
with their Spam blocking policy, particularly as it relates to "matronics.com".
Sorry for the hassle...
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Nov 01, 2006
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
Matronics Email List Fund Raiser - November!
Dear Listers,
Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operation
and upgrade of the List services at Matronics. It's through these sole Contributions
of List members that these Matronics Lists are possible.
You have probably noticed that there are no banner ads or pop-up windows on any of the Matronics Lists or related web sites such as the Forums site ( http://forums.matronics.com ), Wiki site ( http://wiki.matronics.com ), or other related pages such as the List Search Engine ( http://www.matornics.com/search ), List Browse ( http://www.matornics.com/listbrowse ), etc. This is because I believe in a List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely Airplanes and not about annoying advertisments.
During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every few days
reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. Each message will generally
highlight a particular feature or benefit of the Matronics Lists or detail
a new feature or service that was added this year. I ask for your patience
and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages.
The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all of the
bills associated with running these lists.
Once again, this year I've got a terrific line up of free gifts to go along with
the various Contribution levels. Most all of these gifts have been provided
by some of the vary members and vendors that you'll find on Matronics Lists and
have been either donated or provided at substantially discounted rates.
This year, these generous people include Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric Connection (http://www.aeroelectric.com/), Paul Besing of Aeroware Enterprises aka Kitlog Pro (http://www.kitlog.com/), Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore (http://www.buildersbooks.com/), and Jon Croke of HomebuiltHELP (http://www.homebuilthelp.com/).
These are extremely generous guys and I encourage you to visit their respective
web sites. Each one offers a unique and very useful aviation-related product
line. I would like publicly to thank Bob, Paul, Andy, and Jon for their generous
support of the Lists again this year!!
You can make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods this
year including using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. All three methods
afford you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with
a qualifying Contribution amount!!
To make your Contribution, please visit the secure site below:
https://www.matronics.com/contribution
I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral
support over the years. I know it sounds a little cliche, but you guys really
do feel like family.
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Nov 03, 2006
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
Have You Tried The New Matronics List Forum?
Hello Listers,
One of the major new additions to the Matronics Email Lists this year was the addition
of a new and full function Forum Web Site at:
http://forums.matronics.com
The best part of these new Forums is that they are tied directly to the Classic
email distribution Lists! That also means that posts go in both directions.
If you post a message on the Forum web site, it will be cross posted to the respective
Email List. And, if you post a message to a particular Email List,
it will be cross posted to the same respective forum on the Forum site!
So, no matter what your content viewing pleasure is - either direct email distribution
or web-based GUI interface, you can have it at the Matronics Email Lists!
Won't you make a Contribution to support these Lists? It is your SOLE Contributions
that make their continued operation and upgrade possible!
The Contribution site is Fast, Easy, and Secure. Please surf over and make your
Contribution today:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Nov 06, 2006
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
Wow, Cool! New List Feature... [Please Read]
Dear Listers,
By popular suggestion, I've written a substantial new code module for the Matronics
Email Lists system. Here's how it works...
During each November, I send out quite a few PBS-like "Please make a Contribution
to support your List" emails. Wouldn't it be cool if, once a member made a
Contribution, they didn't have to receive my support pleas anymore for the rest
of that year?
Well, that's exactly what I've written! Following this posting, anyone that makes
a List Contribution in 2006 will no longer receive my Contribution Pleas for
the rest of the year!
The best part is this not only applies to the Realtime distribution, but also the
Digest distribution! For those that have made a Contribution, the Daily Digest
email-version will be invisibly stripped of my requests as well! (Note that
my requests will still be present in the online versions of the Digests, List
Browse, and on the Forum site.)
For those submitting their Contribution by personal Check, please be sure to include
your email address along with your Check as this is what is used to determine
eligibility.
So, in a nutshell, here's how it works:
Make a Contribution = No more "Please Make a Contribution" messages!
How sweet is that? If that's not a great reason to jump on the Matronics Email
List Contribution site and make your donation today, I don't know what is!
Don't forget that there are some totally awesome free gifts to be had along with
your List Contribution this year!! Don't wait a minute longer to support your
Lists!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you for your Support!!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Nov 08, 2006
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
If You Got This Email, You Haven't Made A Contribution
Yet! :-)
If you received this particular Matronics List Email message, its because you haven't
yet made a Contribution to support your Lists! This is the first PBS-like
funds drive message under the new distribution system. The new system selectively
sends out the Contribution messages ONLY to those that forgot to whip
out the 'ol credit card this year to support the continued operation and upgrade
of the Matronics Email Lists! Don't you wish PBS worked that way? :-)
You heard that right. Once you make your Contribution, these support requests
messages during November will suddenly stop coming to your personal email inbox!
Pardon me if I seem kind of excited about the new feature. I've wanted to
implement something like this for a number of years now, but it was always such
a daunting task to modify the back-end List processing code, that I just kept
putting it off. Finally this year, I just decided to bite the bullet and put
the code-pounding time it to make it work. A few days later, bam! A working
system!
Anyway, I'll stop gushing now. I really do appreciate each and every one of your
individual Contributions to support the Lists. It is your support that enables
me to upgrade the hardware and software that are required to run a List Site
like this. It also goes to pay for the Commercial-Grade Internet connection
and to pay the rather huge electric bill to keep the computer gear running
and the air conditioner powered up.
Your personal Contribution matters because when combined with other Listers such
as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up and running. I accept exactly
ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand
the pop-up ads and all other commercialism that is so prevalent on the Internet
these days and I particularly don't want to have it on my Email List site.
I'm pretty sure you don't either.
If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email
Lists, please make a Contribution today to keep it that way!!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
<maderah2(at)sbcglobal.net>
Subject:
Re: If You Got This Email, You Haven't Made A Contribution
Yet! :-)
Date:
Nov 08, 2006
Please remove me from your list.
Jerry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Dralle" <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 12:12 AM
Subject: Ultralight-List: If You Got This Email, You Haven't Made A
Contribution Yet! :-)
>
> If you received this particular Matronics List Email message, its because
> you haven't yet made a Contribution to support your Lists! This is the
> first PBS-like funds drive message under the new distribution system. The
> new system selectively sends out the Contribution messages ONLY to those
> that forgot to whip out the 'ol credit card this year to support the
> continued operation and upgrade of the Matronics Email Lists! Don't you
> wish PBS worked that way? :-)
>
> You heard that right. Once you make your Contribution, these support
> requests messages during November will suddenly stop coming to your
> personal email inbox! Pardon me if I seem kind of excited about the new
> feature. I've wanted to implement something like this for a number of
> years now, but it was always such a daunting task to modify the back-end
> List processing code, that I just kept putting it off. Finally this year,
> I just decided to bite the bullet and put the code-pounding time it to
> make it work. A few days later, bam! A working system!
>
> Anyway, I'll stop gushing now. I really do appreciate each and every one
> of your individual Contributions to support the Lists. It is your support
> that enables me to upgrade the hardware and software that are required to
> run a List Site like this. It also goes to pay for the Commercial-Grade
> Internet connection and to pay the rather huge electric bill to keep the
> computer gear running and the air conditioner powered up.
>
> Your personal Contribution matters because when combined with other
> Listers such as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up and
> running. I accept exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics
> Lists sites. I can't stand the pop-up ads and all other commercialism
> that is so prevalent on the Internet these days and I particularly don't
> want to have it on my Email List site. I'm pretty sure you don't either.
>
> If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the
> Matronics Email Lists, please make a Contribution today to keep it that
> way!!
>
> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
> Thank you!
>
> Matt Dralle
> Matronics Email List Administrator
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"BOB BROCKMAN" <packerbeagle(at)msn.com>
Subject:
If You Got This Email, You Haven't Made A Contribution
Yet! :-)
Date:
Nov 08, 2006
Yes,
I too would like to be taken off this list!
>From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
>Reply-To: ultralight-list(at)matronics.com
>To: ultralight-list(at)matronics.com
>Subject: Ultralight-List: If You Got This Email, You Haven't Made A
>Contribution Yet! :-) Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 00:12:41 -0800
>
>
>If you received this particular Matronics List Email message, its because
>you haven't yet made a Contribution to support your Lists! This is the
>first PBS-like funds drive message under the new distribution system. The
>new system selectively sends out the Contribution messages ONLY to those
>that forgot to whip out the 'ol credit card this year to support the
>continued operation and upgrade of the Matronics Email Lists! Don't you
>wish PBS worked that way? :-)
>
>You heard that right. Once you make your Contribution, these support
>requests messages during November will suddenly stop coming to your
>personal email inbox! Pardon me if I seem kind of excited about the new
>feature. I've wanted to implement something like this for a number of
>years now, but it was always such a daunting task to modify the back-end
>List processing code, that I just kept putting it off. Finally this year,
>I just decided to bite the bullet and put the code-pounding time it to make
>it work. A few days later, bam! A working system!
>
>Anyway, I'll stop gushing now. I really do appreciate each and every one
>of your individual Contributions to support the Lists. It is your support
>that enables me to upgrade the hardware and software that are required to
>run a List Site like this. It also goes to pay for the Commercial-Grade
>Internet connection and to pay the rather huge electric bill to keep the
>computer gear running and the air conditioner powered up.
>
>Your personal Contribution matters because when combined with other Listers
>such as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up and running. I
>accept exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics Lists sites. I
>can't stand the pop-up ads and all other commercialism that is so prevalent
>on the Internet these days and I particularly don't want to have it on my
>Email List site. I'm pretty sure you don't either.
>
>If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics
>Email Lists, please make a Contribution today to keep it that way!!
>
>http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
>Thank you!
>
>Matt Dralle
>Matronics Email List Administrator
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"BOB BROCKMAN" <packerbeagle(at)msn.com>
Subject:
If You Got This Email, You Haven't Made A Contribution
Yet! :-)
Date:
Nov 08, 2006
Please delete my name from this list until further notice.
Thanks,
bob brockman
>From: "BOB BROCKMAN" <packerbeagle(at)msn.com>
>Reply-To: ultralight-list(at)matronics.com
>To: ultralight-list(at)matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Ultralight-List: If You Got This Email, You Haven't Made A
>Contribution Yet! :-)
>Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 15:22:28 -0500
>
>
>
>Yes,
>I too would like to be taken off this list!
>
>
>>From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
>>Reply-To: ultralight-list(at)matronics.com
>>To: ultralight-list(at)matronics.com
>>Subject: Ultralight-List: If You Got This Email, You Haven't Made A
>>Contribution Yet! :-) Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 00:12:41 -0800
>>
>>
>>If you received this particular Matronics List Email message, its because
>>you haven't yet made a Contribution to support your Lists! This is the
>>first PBS-like funds drive message under the new distribution system. The
>>new system selectively sends out the Contribution messages ONLY to those
>>that forgot to whip out the 'ol credit card this year to support the
>>continued operation and upgrade of the Matronics Email Lists! Don't you
>>wish PBS worked that way? :-)
>>
>>You heard that right. Once you make your Contribution, these support
>>requests messages during November will suddenly stop coming to your
>>personal email inbox! Pardon me if I seem kind of excited about the new
>>feature. I've wanted to implement something like this for a number of
>>years now, but it was always such a daunting task to modify the back-end
>>List processing code, that I just kept putting it off. Finally this year,
>>I just decided to bite the bullet and put the code-pounding time it to
>>make it work. A few days later, bam! A working system!
>>
>>Anyway, I'll stop gushing now. I really do appreciate each and every one
>>of your individual Contributions to support the Lists. It is your support
>>that enables me to upgrade the hardware and software that are required to
>>run a List Site like this. It also goes to pay for the Commercial-Grade
>>Internet connection and to pay the rather huge electric bill to keep the
>>computer gear running and the air conditioner powered up.
>>
>>Your personal Contribution matters because when combined with other
>>Listers such as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up and
>>running. I accept exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics
>>Lists sites. I can't stand the pop-up ads and all other commercialism
>>that is so prevalent on the Internet these days and I particularly don't
>>want to have it on my Email List site. I'm pretty sure you don't either.
>>
>>If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the
>>Matronics Email Lists, please make a Contribution today to keep it that
>>way!!
>>
>>http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>
>>Thank you!
>>
>>Matt Dralle
>>Matronics Email List Administrator
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Nov 08, 2006
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
Clarification On New Contribution Module Operation...
Dear Listers,
A number of Listers emailed and indicated that, even though they had made a Contribution
this year, they still received the Contribution message yesterday.
I looked into it and I found a slight anomaly (ok, bug) in the new code specifically
as it related to Listers that had made their Contribution through PayPal
AND have a DIFFERENT email address for their PayPal account and for their Matronics
List subscription.
If your PayPal account email address is DIFFERENT than the email address you are
subscribed to the Matronics List(s) as, then my new code module couldn't tell
that you had made a Contribution, since it was using the PayPal email address
instead of the List email.
I've fixed this issue for any new PayPal Contributions, but I don't have any easy
way of resolving this for any of the previous Contribtuions. Again, this is
ONLY an issue if your PayPal and Matronics List email addresses ARE NOT the
same. Otherwise, everything works great.
If you made a PayPal Contribution before 11/09/06 AND your email addresses don't
match, please drop me an email at " info(at)matronics.com " (do not reply to this
message!) and give me your Name, and both Email Addresses and I will manually
update the records so that things will work as advertised.
Sorry for the hassle! New code; new bugs... :-)
To make a Contribution, please see: http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administration
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Nov 10, 2006
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
Wiki...
Dear Listers,
I added a new Wiki web site to the Matronics Email List features earlier this year. What's a Wiki, you ask? Well, here's the Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki) definition:
A wiki (IPA: [ w .ki ] or [ wi .ki ] ) is a type of Web site
that allows the visitors themselves to easily add, remove, and otherwise edit
and change some available content, sometimes without the need for registration.
This ease of interaction and operation makes a wiki an effective tool for
collaborative authoring. The term wiki also can refer to the collaborative software
itself (wiki engine) that facilitates the operation of such a Web site,
or to certain specific wiki sites, including the computer science site (an original
wiki), WikiWikiWeb, and on-line encyclopedias such as Wikipedia.
Under the Matronics Email List Moniker, there is now a very nice List-specific
Wiki available! It a place for Listers to put articles about any aviation topic
that suits them. The purpose is to provide what the mailing lists do not:
structure and persistence. The mailing lists are a fantastic resource to ask
a question and get good (and bad and funny and annoying) answers. But once the
question is asked and answered it is not in front of the List anymore. If a
new person subscribes the next day, he/she does not see that information unless
he/she goes to the trouble to search the archives, a hit or miss proposition.
The result is that the same thread of conversation gets created and/or revisited.
There are several things that happen as a result:
1. The person gets his or her question answered;
2. The information gets better as more people think about and answer the question;
3. The people who have seen the same question asked and answered get annoyed
at seeing the same things over and over and over and ...
So this is where the Wiki comes in. You know what questions you wanted answered.
You may have asked or answered the question. You know the information is useful.
So you put the information here, in the Matronics Email List Wiki!
It doesn't matter that this information is 100% complete or correct. Just writing
something creates a placeholder and makes useful information available immediately.
It has the same immediacy as the mailing list but it has persistence
and structure.
But what if the information is incomplete or incorrect? No problem! Anyone else
coming along can edit the article! If I write something and you discover something
I have left out or stated incorrectly, you can fix it right then!
So let's begin and make this the place for information about building, flying,
maintaining, and understanding our airplanes.
But what about whether something is "appropriate" or not? Don't worry. Write
it down. Let the reader determine whether or not it is appropriate. If it is,
he/she will read it. If it isn't, he/she won't. It's as simple as that.
And when you do write that article you won't have to worry about whether some editor
is going to decide whether or not to print it in a newsletter or whether
the webmaster will have time to put it up on the web page.
The last question I hear brewing out there is: if anyone can post anything, won't
this just become a mass of garbage? Surprisingly, the answer is a resounding
no. If you want proof, go visit the Wikipedia, a free-to-everyone encyclopedia
written by whoever wants to write articles. The articles there are as good
as anything I have read anywhere and anyone can add anything anytime they want
to.
So don't hesitate. Write it down. Put it here. It will never hurt anyone. The
more information we get here, the more useful it will become to other people
and the more information they will put here for YOU to use.
Here's the URL to start (there are lots more bured under this starting place):
http://www.matronics.com/wiki/index.php/Matronics:Community_Portal
But please don't forget that this Wiki and all of the other Matronics Email List
features are supported solely by YOUR Contributions!! November is List Fund
Raiser month and there are lots of Free Gifts to be had with your qualifying
Contribution. Please make a Contribution to support the continued operation and
upgrade of these great services!!! Thank you!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Nov 13, 2006
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
WLAS [Please Read]
Dear Listers,
I sat down at the 'ol computer tonight to have a look at a few of the nice comments
List Members have been including along with their Contributions this year.
I was amazed at how many I found and even more amazed at some of the very nice
things Listers have been saying about the Lists and how valuable the they
are to them.
I've included quite a few of these nice comments below. Please read over some
of this great Lister feedback. No doubt you will find that you agree with at
least one or two of those comments - maybe all of them! If you find that do,
won't you please make a Contribution to support these Lists today!! Its fast
and easy with the Matronics List Contribution Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Don't forget that I've now fully implemented the new *List Fund Raiser Squelch*
feature that will automatically intercept any future iterations of my "Please
Contribute" messages -- that is, *once you've made YOUR Contribution*! How cool
is that? (Make sure the email address you enter along with your Contribution
matches exactly your subscribed List email address. An exact match is how
it works.)
Thank you for your generous Contributions this year and for all the wonderful comments!!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
================= What Listers Are Saying (WLAS) ================
Absolutely the best deal on the Internet!!
-Owen B
I love The Matronics...
-Robeto B
My wife has her soaps & I've got my lists!
-Hal B
These lists are, indeed, the lifeline of our hobby.
-Bob R
The best source of information for my a/c.
-Tony C
The Zenith list is the first thing I read in the morning.
-Herbert H
You do more good than you can imagine. I wish I'd known
about you while I was building my Kitfox, but you are
still an after-the-fact resource.
-Ben B
..an excellent site.
-Ashley M
The "List" has been the ultimate help for my Zenith
CH 701 project!!
-Brian U
I appreciate the list being here for me.
-Geoff H
..a great service.
-William C
The List continues to be an interesting and useful facility.
-David M
Your list is a constant goad to keep me working on my project.
-Thomas S
..a great service.
-Robert W
The Pietenpol list is a great resource.
-Benjamin W
The Yak-list is Awesome!
-James S
..great service.
-Robert S
The features you have implemented recently have you poised
to knock out yahoo groups...
-Danny D
I like how your forum looks/works and the list service...
-Ken E
..great service.
-David P
Very useful web site.
-Wayne E
..a very valuable service.
-Chris D
Great sites...
-Randall R
I used to look at [that other] site also but it's gotten so
cluttered with advertising that I've stopped looking at it.
-Wayne E
Without your services, the build would be a grope in the dark...
-Fergus K
The information and help I've received greatly outweighs the
donation...
-Lee P
..great service!
-Christopher D
I really don't think I could be building my plane without the
wisdom I find on this list.
-William G
It really makes building a pleasure.
-James P
..great service.
-Doug W
I'm getting near the end of my build (Europa tri XS) don't
think I could have done it with out the help of the forum.
-Stanislaus S
Marvelous service. Couldn't have done it without you.
-Jim G
Love the list, this is a wonderful way to help others...
-Michael S
..good service.
-Derek L
The list is responsible for helping me complete this project
and educating me in the process.
-Jeff D
Definitely worth the donation.
-Ron L
..great service to the aviation community.
-Tony P
I have been flying my plane for 5 years (RV-6) but I still
get valuable information from this service.
-Don N
A very helpful site.
-Roland S
It's a great community to be part of.
-David L
Great sites.
-John C
A great place to find and share not only information but to
meet people across the country and make lasting relationships.
-Uncle Craig
Great facility.
-Peter H
Its a great source of information!
-Michael W
Great improvements to the List...
-Edward A
Great service!!!
-Rich D
..great resource!
-William C
..excellent lists!
-Michael S
Couldn't have built my RV4 without the list.
-Warren M
..a great service...
-James N
I would not have missed [the list] for anything during the
building of my Europa.
-Svein J
..another great year.
-Robert D
..this [is an] essential builder's resource.
-David A
..excellent service.
-Gregory B
I've learned a huge amount of "stuff" over the past year
and look forward to it every day!
-Smith M
..a great communication tool...
-Jon M
Finished building 5 years ago, but still are lurking on
your great list!
-Lothar K
..a valuable service. At 11:00 pm Matronics is the goto
place for my RV questions.
-Mike D
================= What Listers Are Saying (WLAS) ================
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"Brian Meyette" <brianpublic2(at)starband.net>
Subject:
kit builder's database
Date:
Nov 13, 2006
I've made an Excel spreadsheet of kit aircraft and ultralight data, and put
it up on my web site. I'm sure it still contains lots of errors and
omissions, but I thought I'd get it out to people while I continue to
perfect it. Please let me know of any errors or omissions, and I'll keep it
updated on an ongoing basis for the benefit of all homebuilders. Feel free
to copy this link & info to other homebuilders' lists.
brian
http://brian76.mystarband.net/misc.htm#directory
--
No virus found in this outgoing message.
7:34 PM
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Nov 15, 2006
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
LOC
Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone
that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its sort
of my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their
appreciation for the Lists.
Won't you take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors
(LOC)? As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems
at least - if not a whole lot more - valuable as a
building/flying/recreating/entertainment tool as your typical magazine subscription!
Please take minute and assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is
fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by popping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps
these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment
about how the Lists have helped you!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Nov 17, 2006
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
List Value...
If you look forward to checking your List email everyday (and a lot of you have
written to say that you do!), then you're probably getting at least 0 or 0 worth
of Entertainment from the Lists each year. You'd pay twice that for a subscription
to some lame magazine or even a dinner out. Isn't the List worth at
least that much to you? Wouldn't it be great if you could pay that same amount
and get a well-managed media source free of advertising, SPAM, and viruses?
Come to think of it, you do...
Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support YOUR
Lists?
Contribution Page:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Again, I want to say THANK YOU to everyone that has made a Contribution thus far
during this year's List Fund Raiser!! These Lists are made possible exclusively
through YOUR generosity!!
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Nov 20, 2006
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
Why? [Please Read]
Dear Listers,
Each year I like to explain why I have a Fund Raiser and also take the opportunity
to express why I think the List Services here provide a superior experience
over the commercial equivalents.
I use the List Fund Raiser each year to offset the costs involved with running
a high performance email list site such as this one. With the annual support
from the List members through the PBS-like Fund Raiser, I have found I can run
the entire site without having to inflect any of the members with those annoying
banner ads flashing up all the time trying to sell little-blue-pills or other
garbage nobody wants or needs. From the comments I've received over the years
regarding the Lists, the great majority of the members really appreciate
the non-commercialism of my List systems and don't mind my 'go-team-go' banter
once a year during November to encourage members to support the Lists.
I believe that the Lists services that I provide here offer many benefits over
the commercial equivalents in a number of ways. The first feature I believe to
be significant is that you cannot receive a computer v*rus from any of these
Lists directly. Each incoming message is filtered and dangerous attachments
stripped off prior to posting. I also provide a Photo and File Share feature
that allows members to share files and bitmaps with other members and everyone
can be assured that these files will be prescanned for any sort of v*rus before
they are posted. Safe and simple.
Another very important feature of this system in my opinion is the extensive List
Archives that are available for download, browsing, and searching. The Archives
go all the way back to the very beginning of each List and with the very
fast Search Engine, the huge size of some of the Archives is a non-issue in quickly
finding the data you're looking for.
And added just this year is the new Email List Forum that allows members who prefer
the Web BBS-style of List interaction. The beauty of the new List Forums
is that they contain the exact same content that is distributed via email. Messages
posted via email are cross-posted to the respective Forum and vice versa.
The Forums also allow for another convenient method of sharing pictures and
other files. Additionally added this year is the new List Wiki that allows
members to build their own "Online List Encyclopedia" of sorts, documenting various
aspects of their project for all to share.
I've been running email Lists and services under the matronics.com domain since
about 1989 starting with RV-List and 30 guys I knew and who where also building
RVs. It has grown into nearly 70 different aviation-related Email Lists and
an associated web site that receives over 23,000,000 hits each year!! Additionally,
the List Email system forwarded well over 87,000 postings last year,
accounting for an unbelievable 39,000,000 (yes, that's 39 MILLION) email messages
delivered to Matronics List subscribers! I think there's a lot of value in
supporting a service that has gone the long haul and is still providing and
improving a high quality service all _without any advertising budget_!
I have to admit running these Lists is a labor of love and I hope it shows in the
quality of the experience that you receive when you get a List Email Message,
Search the Archives, use the List Browser, or surf the Forums and Wiki sites.
The Lists will be here for a long time to come. If you just want to lurk
a while for free, that's great and I encourage you to do so. If you use, appreciate,
and receive value from these Lists, then please support them during the
Annual List Fund Raiser!
List Contribution Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Nov 22, 2006
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists...
Dear Listers,
Just a reminder that November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution
today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these great
List services!! Pick up a really nice free gift with your qualifying Contribution
too!
The Contribution Site is fast and easy:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Nov 24, 2006
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
More Great List Comments - Please Make A Contribution!
Dear Listers,
There's a little less than one week left for this year's List Fund Raiser. I thought
it would a great time to share a few more of the great comments I've been
receiving from Contributors regarding what the Lists mean to them. There are
some particularly poignant ones in this batch and I encourage you to have a
look at some of them.
Don't forget that once you make your Contribution, the Contribution Squelch kicks
in and you won't receive any future messages from me regarding the Fund Raiser
this year! This holds true for the Realtime and Digest distributions and
now also the HTML and TXT links included with the Digest! (Note that for technical
reasons, if someone replies to one of my contribution messages, the Squelch
will _not_ be activated, and you will still receive it. Contribution messages
will also still be found on the Forums site and the List Browse).
Please make your Contribution today to support these List services! Pick up a
great Gift too!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
============================= WLAS #2 ============================
Tackling my project without the List would be like
building on a deserted island. The List has made me
part of a learning (and laughing) community. -Larry W
Thank you for providing such a fantastic resource for us
Kolbers. I'm very happy to contribute towards keeping such a
wonderful resource available. -Geoff T
..you do a great service for the flying community by
providing this service. -John L
..solidly administered. -James C
A great source of information. -Ralph S
The Lists have likely saved a numbers of lives... -James F
..exceptional user service. -Larry W
Better than a magazine! -Aaron G
Thanks to your List I will be able to finish and fly
my project. Without the help of the great people on
your List I doubt it would have happened. -Ed G
I learn something on a too regular basis thanks to
these lists! -Ralph C
..valuable service. -John F
..a well administered service. -Stewart C
Great forum! -Ronald C
A great service! -Andy H
Been reading the lists since my first RV in 1999. Good
work and as necessary to me as a rivet. -Albert G
The lists are a great help. -Gary S
This resource has been critical to my building success
so far. -Timothy F
Great system and support! -Richard P
Very helpful in the building my CH 701. -Ralph S
Another year of entertainment and pleasure! -Larry B
A great resource for all of us. -Larry W
Another year of great service! Once again, the
information is worth more than I can ever contribute.
Thank you also for the "community" that the List fosters.
I cannot tell you the number of times that seeing an
friend's name come up has caused so many awesome memories
to come flooding back - along with the eager desire to
gather with these great guys again. I love hearing the
beginner's enthusiasm, the builder's progress, and the
flyer's success... -Robert B
Our list has great info and I love reading the
"Flame Posts! " -Stephen M
Great service! -James B
Excellent source of information. -David P
You provide a very valuable service to the aviation
community. -David H
The RV related lists have been a tremendous help in the
construction of my RV-7... -Norman R
Awesome list!! -John E
Great bunch of guys and very knowledgeable! -Herbert G
Thank you for making it so easy to stay in touch
with my fellow RV-10 builders. -David J
I love the list and have been a reader for a long
time. -James V
Continues to be a great service! -George A
Awesome List server. -Deke M
Many of us would never finish our airplanes without
[the List]. With it, I'm getting close! -Ronald C
An excellent source of both information and
inspiration! -William R
Forums and format are easy to use. -Jack B
Great help with my kit building. -Ralph H
Super service. -Richard N
Still loving it. -Jared S
You have a fantastic web! -Harvey R
..a great service. -James M
Glad you are there... -David A
I get some great information on your list. -John P
Fantastic service. Couldn't have made it as far
as I have without it. -Stephen T
A great learning experience with my RV-6A. -Ron B
Great resources! -Jason H
Well done. Very valuable. -Jeffrey D
Great resource for the experimental aircraft
community. -Chris H
This List has been one of the most helpful tools in
building my RV-10, since I build alone, and do not
have any help readily available. Without the List,
I could not have embarked on building my RV-10. -Jim H
You run a great list there. -James H
Really like the Kolb List. -Don W
============================= WLAS #2 ============================
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Nov 27, 2006
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
List of Contributors Coming Soon - Make Sure You're Listed!
Dear Listers,
The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! On December 1st I post
a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists.
Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their
appreciation for the Lists.
As a number of people have pointed out in their Contribution comments, the List
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your magazine subscription! And how interactive is a magazine, after all? :-)
Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others
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(Please include your email address on the check!)
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that
keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment
about how the Lists have helped you!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Nov 28, 2006
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
Who is "Matt Dralle" & What Are "The Lists"? [Please
Read]
Dear Listers,
Who is Matt Dralle and what exactly are these Lists? Well, I've been working in
the information technology industry for over 20 years primarily in computer
networking design and implementation. I have also done extensive work in web
development and CGI design during this period.
I started the Matronics Email Lists back in 1990 with about 30 fellow RV builders
from around the world. Since that time, I have added 63 other kinds of aircraft
related Lists to the line up and numerous other List related services such
as the Forums, Wiki, Archives and Search Engine just to name a few.
For flexibility and reliability, I have chosen to run all of my own servers here
locally. Other List-related systems include a 1 Gigabit, fully switched network
infrastructure, a commercial-grade Netscreen firewall, a Barracuda spam filter,
a local T1 Internet router, and a commercial-grade business T1 Internet
connection with full static addressing.
The computer servers found here include a brand new, quad-processor Xeon Linux
server for List web services, a dual-processor Xeon Linux system dedicated to
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available even during a local power outage! Speaking of power, imagine how much
electricity it takes to run all of these systems. One month this Summer,
I had a staggering $1368 bill for electricity alone!
I recently upgraded all of the computer racking infrastructure including new power
feeds and dedicated air conditioning for the room that serves as the Computer
Center for the Matronics Email Lists. This year I added another rack to house
the new MONSTER quad-processor web system that didn't quite fit into the
first rack! Here's a composite photo of the List Computer Center before the addition
of the second rack:
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As you can see, I take running these Lists very seriously and I am dedicated to
providing an always-on, 24x7x365 experience for each and every Lister.
But building and running this system isn't cheap. As I've stated before, I don't
support any of these systems with commercial advertising on the Lists. It
is supported 100% through List member Contributions! That means you... and you...
and YOU!
To that end, I hold a List Fund Raiser each November and ask that members make
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Please make a Contribution today to support these Lists!
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Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Nov 29, 2006
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
Just A Few Days Left; Trailing Last Year...
Dear Listers,
There are just a few more days left of this year's List Fund Raiser! Response
has been very good, but we are behind last year in the number of people that have
made a Contribution and as a percentage of the total number of subscribers.
Please remember that there isn't any sort of commercial advertising on the Lists
and the *only* means of keeping these Lists running is through your Contributions
during this Fund Raiser.
Please make a Contribution today!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Nov 30, 2006
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
Last "Official" Day Of The List Fund Raiser!
Dear Listers,
Well, its November 30th and that means three things...
1) Today I am now officially 43 years old... (arg...)
2) It marks that last "official" day of the List Fund Raiser!
3) Its the last day I will be bugging everyone for a whole year! :-)
If you use the Lists and enjoy the content and the no-advertising, no-spam, and
no-censorship way in which they're run, please make a Contribution today to support
their continued operation and upkeep. Your $20 or $30 goes a long way
to further the List operation and keep the bills paid.
I will be posting the List of Contributors next week, so make sure your name is
on it! :-)
Thank you to everyone that has made a Contribution so far this year! It is greatly
appreciated.
List Contributions: http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Dec 08, 2006
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
Matronics Fund Raiser - 2006 List of Contributors
Dear Listers,
I would like to thank everyone that made a Contribution in support of the Lists
this year! It was really nice to hear all great comments people had regarding
the Lists! As I have said many times before, running these Lists is a labor
of love. Your generosity during the List Fund Raiser only underscores the great
sentiments people have made regarding the Lists.
If you haven't yet made a Contribution in support of this year's Fund Raiser please
feel free to do so. The nice List gifts will be available on the site for
just a little while longer, so hurry and make your Contribution and get your
great gift. Once again, the URL for the Contribution web site is:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
I would like to thank Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore ( http://www.buildersbooks.com ), Paul Besing of Aeroware Enterprises ( http://www.kitlog.com ), Jon Croke of Homebuilt HELP ( http://www.homebuilthelp.com ) and Bob Nuckolls of AeroElectric ( http://www.aeroelectric.com ) for their extremely generous support during this year's Fund Raiser through the contribution of merchandise. These are great guys that support the aviation industry and I encourage each and every Lister to have a look at their products. Thank you Andy, Paul, Jon and Bob!! Your support is very much appreciated!
And finally, below you will find a web link to the 2006 List of Contributors current
as of 12/7/06! Have a look at this list of names as these are the people
that make all of these List services possible! I can't thank each of you enough
for your support and great feedback during this year's Fund Raiser!
THANK YOU!
http://www.matronics.com/loc/2006.html
I will be shipping out all of the gifts in the next few weeks and hope to have
everything out by the end of the month. In most cases, gifts will be shipped
via US Postal Service. Kitlog Pro serial numbers should go out via email this
weekend.
Once again, thank you for making this year's List Fund Raiser successful!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"Rob Stapleton" <foto(at)alaska.net>
Subject:
Here is a sweet deal!
Date:
Feb 24, 2007
Please post this message!
I am Selling a 2002 Airborne Aircraft with 15.2 hours on the machine. The
Aircraft is located in Wasilla, Alaska. The Trike has been stored in a
garage. It looks like brand new! If you are interested please contact me
back and I will send pics to you or you can come and look at it.
Was asking $28,900.00 but due to needing surgery soon I am slashing the
price to $22,000.00. This Aircraft with all these features and accessories
will selling new for over $35,000.00! At this price it will not last long!
If you know anybody that wants a great aircraft at a great deal please pass
this offer on to them; Thanks!
Call: 907 376-4978 Email: wade(at)giftsalaska.com. No trades or payments;
cash only please.
Thank you,
Wade Roberts
What is on the Aircraft and what accessories will come with it:
. Powered by liquid cooled aircraft Rotax 582 engine.
. E Type Gear Box Electric Start
. In-Flight Dual Carburetor adjustment kit installed
. Ceramic Coating on Exhaust
. Intake Silencer
. Quiet 4 Blade Brolga Prop with edge protection
. BRS-5 Parachute installed
. Streak Wing with Trim Tab
. Full Dress Option (Includes Cockpit, Spats. Softsides, ASI,
Altimeter, and Hourmeter
. Tachometer
. EGT Gauges
. Tweed Seat Cloth
. Center Console for Radio or GPS
. Magnum Smart Strobe by Kuntzleman Electronics Strobe Head
. Training Bars, (including Training bars, steering dampener, and dual
steering)
. Red Gauntlet hand protection for Pilot
. Installed debris screen for Prop
Extra Accessories
. Lexicon "high boy" Windscreen with quick connect fasteners
. Garmin GPS Map 76S Mark
. RAM Mounts installed for holding GPS
. iCom Navicom IC-A22 VHF Air Band Transceiver
. Snow Skis with complete kit to attach to Trike
. HGU-33 helmet with dual visor, (1 clear and 1 smoked lens), custom
paint job, and Headphones /Mic built-in with leather cover
. Comtronic Dual-Com II Intercom, (two isolated radio ports with
toggle switch control, 9v battery, music port and push-to-talk switch
included)
. Tempo brand Red plastic 10 gallon fuel tank with built-in submerged
12 volt DC fuel pump and High quality fuel filter.
If you have any questions call the owner or email Rob Stapleton at
rob(at)alaskasportpilotcenter.net
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"Rob Stapleton" <foto(at)alaska.net>
Subject:
ELSA registration class in Alaska
Date:
Feb 24, 2007
EAA, Experimental Light Sport Aircraft Registration Meeting
When: April 24, 2007
Where: 301 Arctic Slope Ave. Anchorage,AK (behind Schlotsky's Deli on
Dimond) Look for the signs, the door to the meeting room is on the WEST side
of the building.
Who: John Davis, LSA DAR, Dan Billman, DAR, Tom Eldridge, DPE both with the
local FSDO
What: Information and kits on how to transition from UL to ELSA
Why: FAA imposed Jan. 31, 2008 deadline for two-place ELSA
Mark your calendars now!
EAA Chapter 42 has agreed to make the April 2008 meeting about Sport Pilot
information. See their webpage at: www.eaa42.org
This meeting will be an informational workshop to get anyone who wants to
register and get their UL air vehicles an airworthiness inspection and
transition to the (Experimental) Light Sport Aircraft category.
The deadline is less than a year away to do this and the paperwork will
slow down as you get closer to Jan. 2008.
EAA Transition to ELSA kits will be sold at the meeting. These are very
helpful and contain all the required forms from the FAA, as well as
stickers, and instructions on how to fill out all the forms correctly.
Weight and balance information for an Antares MA-33 R582, as well as the
operation limitations and transition paperwork will be on hand for you to
take with you.
FAA officials will be on hand to answer questions. Please attend as the
deadline for accomplishing this is Jan. 31, 2008.
Don't wait until the last minute, or month to do this as the DAR, John Davis
does not do inspections on a regular basis, he also works for JAL. John
wants all paperwork complete before he will inspect your aircraft.
Refreshments will be served, and membership information about the Chapter
and EAA will be on hand for you to join if you are not already a member. The
folks at these meetings are both friendly and helpful and have been a fun
group to get to know!
They want to help all of us to get back in the air.legally!
See you there. Keep flying!
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject:
Re: Flying without a Sport Pilot License?
From:
"Ralph B" <ul15rhb(at)juno.com>
Date:
Apr 21, 2007
Did anyone see the crash?
That could make a big difference.
Ralph
--------
Ralph B
Original Firestar
20 years flying it
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=108301#108301
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Date:
May 01, 2007
From:
thewanderingwench(at)yahoo.com
Subject:
Yahoo! Auto Response
I'm on an ultralight flight to Texas and will be gone until Memorial Day. Since
I'll be camping along the way, I won't have access to a computer. So don't
expect to get a response until the end of May - unless I can find an Internet
Cafe along the route!
Arty
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Subject:
Quicksilver MXL w/ Rotax 447 for sale
From:
"kentk" <kentk25(at)yahoo.com>
Date:
May 21, 2007
Quicksilver MXL with Rotax 447. Includes instrument pod, BRS 500 (needs repack),
Tennessee wooden prop, and helmet. Needs new sails and 150 Hr inspection on
the 447. Currently unassembled for easy transport. Email is best for contacting
me. I can send pics via email. Asking $1500.
--------
Kent Knudsen
College Station, TX
K-IV 1200 / no engine / 25% done
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=114101#114101
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Subject:
Single place Part 103 weight shift trikes
From:
"akfotoman" <foto(at)alaska.net>
Date:
Jun 02, 2007
Does anyone have a handle on whether the single place trikes are a hot item right
now? After the Jan 31, 2008 FAA deadline I hear many two place trike pilots
are shifting to single place in frustration over complications with Sport Pilot,
and ELSA airworthiness.
Any comments would be appreciated.
--------
Have cameras, will travel!
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=116111#116111
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
Malcolmbru(at)aol.com
Date:
Jun 03, 2007
Subject:
Re: Single place Part 103 weight shift trikes
I have always wanted a trik prices will drop late in the year and next
summer making weight will be hard but spare parts will be available motes
will get cheaper used but will become worth less as time grows on malcolm
from michigan
************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
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Subject:
Single place Part 103 weight shift trikes
Date:
Jun 04, 2007
From:
"Reggie Deloach" <redeloach(at)fedex.com>
The problem is not how many seats but rather how heavy and how fast. If
one flies under FAR Part 103 (the ultralight rule), then the max weight
for the vehicle is 253 pounds. It MUST have one seat. Cannot hold more
than 5 US gallons of fuel and cannot go faster than 55 knots (63 MPH).
If the aircraft you seek to avoid the Sport Pilot regulations cannot
meet the above mentioned criteria, it is an airplane and must be
registered, N-Numbered, and the operator must hold at least a Sport
Pilot rating.
RED :}
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ultralight-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-ultralight-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
akfotoman
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 11:12 PM
Subject: Ultralight-List: Single place Part 103 weight shift trikes
Does anyone have a handle on whether the single place trikes are a hot
item right now? After the Jan 31, 2008 FAA deadline I hear many two
place trike pilots are shifting to single place in frustration over
complications with Sport Pilot, and ELSA airworthiness.
Any comments would be appreciated.
--------
Have cameras, will travel!
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=116111#116111
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Subject:
Re: Quicksilver MXL w/ Rotax 447 for sale
From:
"kentk" <kentk25(at)yahoo.com>
Date:
Jun 04, 2007
Thanks everyone for your interest! This bird was SOLD today.
--------
Kent Knudsen
College Station, TX
K-IV 1200 / no engine / 25% done
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=116411#116411
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
Malcolmbru(at)aol.com
Date:
Jun 04, 2007
Subject:
Re: Single place Part 103 weight shift trikes
If you are looking for a true ultralight and if you think you have found one
I hope you do have a camera because they are about as mythological as a
unicorn or mermaid. matronics is a wonderful place but I am getting tired
of the other 2 sights I have ben visiting. I prefer ultralight flying over
light sport stuff. my first UL was a quicksilver and I still miss her. I
once herd of a ul pilot that would try to touch his wheels on a moving train
up in northern Texas he did it several times till his wheel got stuck and
it drug him along for 80 miles totaling his bird and landing him in the
hospital .some times I think my experiences with flying UL's would make me an
expert witness for the history of civil disobedience in America .lets keep this
thread going shall we? malcolm michigan kit foxer
************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject:
Single place Part 103 weight shift trikes
Date:
Jun 05, 2007
From:
"Reggie Deloach" <redeloach(at)fedex.com>
Well, to say the least, I'm partial to "low and slow".
RED
Reggie DeLoach
President
United States Ultralight Association
________________________________
From: owner-ultralight-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-ultralight-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Malcolmbru(at)aol.com
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 10:08 PM
Subject: Re: Ultralight-List: Single place Part 103 weight shift trikes
If you are looking for a true ultralight and if you think you have found
one I hope you do have a camera because they are about as mythological
as a unicorn or mermaid. matronics is a wonderful place but I am
getting tired of the other 2 sights I have ben visiting. I prefer
ultralight flying over light sport stuff. my first UL was a
quicksilver and I still miss her. I once herd of a ul pilot that would
try to touch his wheels on a moving train up in northern Texas he did
it several times till his wheel got stuck and it drug him along for 80
miles totaling his bird and landing him in the hospital .some times I
think my experiences with flying UL's would make me an expert witness
for the history of civil disobedience in America .lets keep this
thread going shall we? malcolm michigan kit foxer
________________________________
See what's free at AOL.com
<http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503> .
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
Malcolmbru(at)aol.com
Date:
Jun 05, 2007
Subject:
plentiful and cheep
The thing about quicksilver's is they are so plentiful and cheep it is no
wonder that the plane that put so many people in the air has helped give
Ultralights a bad name I tough myself to fly in one.
************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"Rob Stapleton, Jr." <foto(at)alaska.net>
Subject:
Tundra Trike for Sale in AK
Date:
Jun 06, 2007
Mint condition Single place Tundra Trike with Rotax 447 (150 hrs ttt) BRS,
new tires, helmet, skis-Asking $7,000 hangared at BCV in Chugiak, AK. call
for more details or visit:www.alaskasportpilotcenter.net
Rob Stapleton
Anchorage Alaska
907-336-9425
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Jul 22, 2007
Subject:
[ Dennis Kirby ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
From:
Email List Photo Shares <pictures(at)matronics.com>
A new Email List Photo Share is available:
Poster: Dennis Kirby
Lists: Kolb-List,Ultralight-List
Subject: "Magic Bike" Recovery Pictures
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil.07.22.2007/index.html
----------------------------------------------------------
o Main Photo Share Index
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
o Submitting a Photo Share
If you wish to submit a Photo Share of your own, please include the
following information along with your email message and files:
1) Email List or Lists that they are related to:
2) Your Full Name:
3) Your Email Address:
4) One line Subject description:
5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic:
6) One-line Description of each photo or file:
Email the information above and your files and photos to:
pictures(at)matronics.com
----------------------------------------------------------
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Jul 22, 2007
From:
jerb <ulflyer(at)verizon.net>
Subject:
Re: [ Dennis Kirby ] Retrieving your Kolb
After retrieving it how did you go about flipping it back right side
up while minimizing damage?
jerb
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Sep 08, 2007
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
New Realtime Spell Checker Added To Matronics Forums!
Dear Listers,
Today 9/8/2007 I have added a new real-time spell checker function to all of the
BBS Forums at Matronics. When you reply or create a new message on the Forums,
you will notice that misspelled words will be high-lighted in yellow. If
you left-click on the word, you will be prompted with a drop-down list of suggested
spellings.
http://forums.matronics.com
Enjoy!
Matt Dralle
Matornics Email List and Forum Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject:
CGS Hawk Arrow II folding wing option upgrade??
From:
"grantr" <grant_richardson25(at)yahoo.com>
Date:
Sep 17, 2007
Hi,
I am interested in buying a used CGS hawk Arrow II 2000 to 2001 year model however
this plane does not have the folding wing option which I need.
Can the folding wing option be added to this plane?
If so how easy is the mod?
Do the wings fold like a Kolb?
Does anyone have the dimensions of the plane when folded L, W, H?
Thanks,
Grant
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=134866#134866
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject:
CGS Hawk Arrow II folding wing option upgrade??
Date:
Sep 17, 2007
From:
"Reggie Deloach" <redeloach(at)fedex.com>
Did you check with CGS? I'll bet Chuck will be happy to answer any and
all questions you have. This will be one sure-fire method to ensure all
answers are accurate. Especially since you rear end is in direct
jeopardy if they are not!
Good luck with your low and slow endeavor!
red :}
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ultralight-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-ultralight-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of grantr
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 1:30 PM
Subject: Ultralight-List: CGS Hawk Arrow II folding wing option
upgrade??
Hi,
I am interested in buying a used CGS hawk Arrow II 2000 to 2001 year
model however this plane does not have the folding wing option which I
need.
Can the folding wing option be added to this plane?
If so how easy is the mod?
Do the wings fold like a Kolb?
Does anyone have the dimensions of the plane when folded L, W, H?
Thanks,
Grant
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=134866#134866
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject:
Re: CGS Hawk Arrow II folding wing option upgrade??
From:
"grantr" <grant_richardson25(at)yahoo.com>
Date:
Sep 17, 2007
Yes,
I tried to get in touch with him a few times with no response.
The contact option on the website gives me an error.
I tried the phone number on the site and I got a bunch or rings and then the V
mail last night and left a message with my email and ph number. Called again today
at 12:30pm est and got the v mail again with a different message saying he
was on the phone. left another message and still no return phone call or email
as of 3pm.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=134873#134873
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject:
Re: CGS Hawk Arrow II folding wing option upgrade??
Re: CGS Hawk Arrow II folding wing option upgrade??
Date:
Sep 17, 2007
From:
"Reggie Deloach" <redeloach(at)fedex.com>
Needless to say, Chuck is one of the benchmarks of ultralight aviation.
Sorry you had trouble contacting him!
If you can't get the info you are seeking, E-mail me and I'll try to get
it for you.
red :}
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ultralight-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-ultralight-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of grantr
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 2:04 PM
Subject: Ultralight-List: Re: CGS Hawk Arrow II folding wing option
upgrade??
Yes,
I tried to get in touch with him a few times with no response.
The contact option on the website gives me an error.
I tried the phone number on the site and I got a bunch or rings and then
the V mail last night and left a message with my email and ph number.
Called again today at 12:30pm est and got the v mail again with a
different message saying he was on the phone. left another message and
still no return phone call or email as of 3pm.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=134873#134873
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject:
Re: CGS Hawk Arrow II folding wing option upgrade??
From:
"grantr" <grant_richardson25(at)yahoo.com>
Date:
Sep 17, 2007
Thanks Red,
As I said Chuck did call me back. He did not recommend the folding wing option
because its not any easier than taking the wings off plus the wings can and do
get damaged when being trailered with the folding wing.
He also said that the wings can be removed or attached in 20mins .
So it doesn't sound too bad. I think kolb says 10min fold time
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=134910#134910
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject:
powered parachute wing area vs fixed wing
From:
"grantr" <grant_richardson25(at)yahoo.com>
Date:
Sep 17, 2007
Why do powered parachutes require so much more wing area than fixed wing ultralights
of the same weight and payload?
Most PPCs have wing areas about double the size of fixed wings.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=134945#134945
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
Malcolmbru(at)aol.com
Date:
Sep 17, 2007
Subject:
army hawk
I love that plane I flew it at sun fun several times .I even got to fly it
in the show case and morning parade. with flaps and adjustable prop you can
go from 35 to 100 mph in about 5 seconds.with the 65 hp Hirth
malcolm michigan
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
Malcolmbru(at)aol.com
Date:
Sep 18, 2007
Subject:
Re: CGS Hawk Arrow II folding wing option upgrade??
TRY a kit fox they really are a nice plane . when I first started flying
I asked a Challenger owner if I could put his wing on a kolb Because I wanted
a up rite motor with the best soaring wing I could get. thear is a guy
building a folding option for a challenger as well. Chuck really cant promote
a
folding wing because they all will bend or poke a hole in something if they
are operated wrong. I cant think of a folding wing plane that has cables
running the flaps or ailerons. What good is a folding wing if it makes a plane
too wide for a trailer?or too unstable to role around in a hanger /because you
need something to hold the wing tip from dragging on the ground? malcolm
michigan
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Subject:
Re: CGS Hawk Arrow II folding wing option upgrade??
The shape of the wing.
If you have a cloth covered wing which has detached the cloth from the top
of the ribs it will balloon out like a PPC. This will cause a great loss of
lift, not to mention speed.
Noel
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Subject:
Re: CGS Hawk Arrow II folding wing option upgrade??
Date:
Sep 18, 2007
From:
"Reggie Deloach" <redeloach(at)fedex.com>
RANS offers folding wings on the S-12XL. Having had several RANS
products (including the XL) I have never folded the wings. To fold them
is easy. To keep them from damage when folding is the problem! RANS will
tell you that folding is easy, securing is hard.
Kolb has been identified for may years as the "folding wing" flyer...
My current ultralight is a Rotax 277 powered MAX 103 (TEAM). There are
quick disconnects for the ailerons and four spring held pins hold the
wings on. If I just MUST remove the wings it takes 5 minutes. The rudder
and stab are bolted together and then to the airframe. This would take
time to remove, so I normally don't.
red :}
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From: owner-ultralight-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-ultralight-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of grantr
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 4:53 PM
Subject: Ultralight-List: Re: CGS Hawk Arrow II folding wing option
upgrade??
Thanks Red,
As I said Chuck did call me back. He did not recommend the folding wing
option because its not any easier than taking the wings off plus the
wings can and do get damaged when being trailered with the folding wing.
He also said that the wings can be removed or attached in 20mins .
So it doesn't sound too bad. I think kolb says 10min fold time
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=134910#134910
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From:
Malcolmbru(at)aol.com
Date:
Sep 19, 2007
Subject:
Re: alight-List:Kolb for sale in Texas
ebay has a fire star for sale no mother needs a lot of work $1.800
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Date:
Oct 06, 2007
Subject:
[ James A Swan ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
From:
Email List Photo Shares <pictures(at)matronics.com>
A new Email List Photo Share is available:
Poster: James A Swan
Lists: Kolb-List,Ultralight-List
Subject: Holb Homecoming 2007 Pictures
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/arksey@aol.com.10.06.2007/index.html
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o Main Photo Share Index
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
o Submitting a Photo Share
If you wish to submit a Photo Share of your own, please include the
following information along with your email message and files:
1) Email List or Lists that they are related to:
2) Your Full Name:
3) Your Email Address:
4) One line Subject description:
5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic:
6) One-line Description of each photo or file:
Email the information above and your files and photos to:
pictures(at)matronics.com
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________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Nov 01, 2007
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
November is Matronics Email List Fund Raiser Month!
Dear Listers,
You've probably noticed that there are no banner ads or pop-up windows or spam
from any of the List and Forum services at Matronics. These include, for example:
The Email List Postings - http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse
The Email List Forum Site - http://forums.matronics.com
The List Wiki - http://wiki.matronics.com
The List Search Engine - http://www.matronics.com/search
This is because I have always enjoyed a List experience that was completely about
the sport we enjoy - airplanes - and not about advertising!
But running a high performance, highly available service like this isn't free and
a fair amount of money in terms of computer upgrades, business-class Internet
connectivity, and electricity. Consequently, many similar sites turn to advertising
to support these costs. Advertising that you have to look at each and
every time you read an email message or browse the their web site.
Rather than subject my List community to another constant commercial bombardment,
I have chosen to hold a PBS-like fund raiser each year in November to support
the continued operation and upgrade of the List services. It's solely through
the Contributions of List members that the Lists and Forums continue to be
possible!
During the month, I will be sending out a Fund Raiser reminder message every few
days and I ask for your patience and understanding during the month throughout
these regular messages. Think of them as PBS' Pledge Breaks... :-)
To minimize the impact of the Fund Raiser on the List community, I implemented
a new feature late last year specifically related to making Contributions. If
you are an Email List subscriber, once you make a Contribution using the online
web site, you will no longer receive the email from me regarding the Fund Raiser!
There are a couple of exceptions to this, however. If someone replies
to a Contribution message I've sent, you might receive that. Additionally, the
messages will always be posted to the Forums site. To a first order, however,
once you make a Contribution, you won't get my email messages about the Fund
Raiser for the rest of the month. For Contributions by check, the squelch
will take effect once the check is received.
There is a whole new line up of really great Contribution gifts this year! When
you make a qualifying Contribution, you can select one of the many free gifts
that are available during the Fund Raiser. These gifts are provided through
the generous support of a number of our industry's leading supporters including:
Bob Nuckolls - AeroElectric - http://www.aeroelectric.com
Andy Gold - Builder's Bookstore - http://www.buildersbooks.com
Jon Croke - HomebuiltHELP - http://www.homebuilthelp.com
Please visit these guy's respective sites, as they have some great products to
offer and are generously supporting the Matronics List Fund Raiser.
You can make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods this
year including using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. From the Contribution
site, you can select any one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying
Contribution amount. The Contribution page is pretty loooonnnnng this year
in order to list great selection of great gifts available so be sure to scroll
all the way to the bottom of the web page to see everything that's available!
Please make a List Support Contribution:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous support! Your Contributions
truely keep this operation afloat!
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Forum Administrator
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Date:
Nov 04, 2007
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
List Fund Raiser
Dear Listers,
Just a reminder that November is the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser month. I've
got a bunch of really nice incentive gifts this year. There's really something
for everyone!
Please make a Contribution today:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Nov 07, 2007
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
What Listers Are Saying...
November is Matronics List Fund Raiser month and a number people been sending some
really nice comments regarding the Lists. I thought I'd share a few below.
The Lists are completely supported by your Contributions. All of the bills for
new hardware, connectivity, and electricity are paid by the generous support
of the List members.
Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation of the List
and Forums:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
================= What Listers Are Saying ================
Flying and building is much safer with this List!!
Robert D.
Thanks for having and maintaining such a great resource to
all of us builders and flyers.
Wayne E.
Love the fact that you haven't caved to advertising!
Peter J.
..a great resource!!
Robert C.
Not building at the moment, but the Lists keeps me right
up to date with what's going on.
Chris D.
The web forum has been running great.
James O.
I enjoy this [List] site very much...
Paul C.
This is a great list!
Albert G.
..a valuable resource!
Roger C.
I am deployed to Pakistan right now, and being able
to go on-line and keep up with the aircraft discussions
helps keep the aircraft building dream alive in my mind!
Gregory C.
..fantastic service!
Roger M.
..clearly a work of passion!
Mike C.
It is a great service to us!
Kevin C.
The list is a wonderful resource...
Ralph O.
[The Lists] have been the single greatest resource in
building my RV-9A and now my RV-10.
Albert G.
..a valuable and always improving service.
Dick S.
STILL THE BEST BARGAIN AROUND!!
Owen B.
..such a valuable tool.
Jon M.
[The Lists] have been an invaluable resource for me
as a Zenith homebuilder.
David G.
The opportunity to meet (on line at least) many other
interesting builders and to make some new friends is
truly appreciated.
Albert G.
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Date:
Nov 09, 2007
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
If You Got This Email, You Haven't Made A Contribution
Yet! :-)
Dear Listers,
If you received this particular Matronics List Email message, its because you haven't
yet made a Contribution to support your Lists! Implemented for the first
time last year, the Matronics system selectively sends out the Contribution
messages to those that forgot to whip out the 'ol credit card this year to support
the continued operation and upgrade of the Matronics Email Lists! Don't
you wish PBS worked that way? :-)
You heard that right. Once you make your Contribution, these support requests
messages during November will suddenly stop coming to your personal email inbox!
I wanted to implement something like this for a number of years, but it was
always such a daunting task to modify the back-end List processing code, that
I just kept putting it off. Finally last year, I just decided to bite the bullet
and put the code-pounding time it to make it work. A few days later, bam!
A working system!
I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support
the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware
and software that are required to run a List Site like this. It also goes to
pay for the commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the rather huge electric
bill to keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered
up. I run ALL of the Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which
allows me to control and monitor every aspect of the system for the utmost in
reliably and performance.
Your personal Contribution matters because when combined with other Listers such
as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up and running. I accept exactly
ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand
the pop-up ads and all other commercialism that is so prevalent on the Internet
these days and I particularly don't want to have it on my Email List site.
If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email
Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
[Please note the following regarding the selective posting system. There are certain
circumstances where you might still see a Contribution related message.
These situations include if someone replies to one of the messages, or when
using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum.
Since most of these are anonymous public access methods, there is no simple way
to filter them.]
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Nov 11, 2007
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
Post Mortem - Matronics List Pummeled By Spam...
Dear Listers,
Over a 3-day period, Thursday 11/8 though Saturday 11/10, the Matronics Lists were
pummeled with over 450,000 spam emails causing posting delays and a few duplicate
messages. Yeah, I really said nearly half a million spams! The good
news is that I don't believe a single one of them actually made it to the Lists
thanks to the aggressive List filtering code and the Barracuda spam filter.
The bad news was that it caused quite a back log of email messages starting Friday
and continuing until late Saturday when I noticed that delivery seemed a bit
sluggish. By about 11pm on Saturday night, I had managed to get the backlog
cleared out of the spam filter by temporarily adjusting some of the filtering.
A check of the queues this morning, and everything looks like its working great
and there are no incoming filtering delays and spam levels appear to be back
to "normal".
There were a number of people asking what was going on, so I thought that I'd send
out a follow up post mortem on the event...
November is the annual List Fund Raiser. Your contribution directly enables me
to buy systems like the Barracuda spam filter that keep the List free of that
garbage. Please make a contribution to support your Lists!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Nov 13, 2007
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
List of Contributors
Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone
that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its sort of
my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Won't you take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors
(LOC)? As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems
at least - if not a whole lot more - valuable as a building/flying/recreating/entertainment
tool as your typical magazine subscription!
Please take minute and assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is
fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by popping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps
these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about
how the Lists have helped you!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Nov 15, 2007
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
Value of the List...
If you look forward to checking your List email everyday (and a lot of you have
written to say that you do!), then you're probably getting at least 0 or 0 worth
of Entertainment from the Lists each year. You'd pay twice that for a subscription
to some lame magazine or even a dinner out. Isn't the List worth at least
that much to you? Wouldn't it be great if you could pay that amount and get
a well-managed media source free of advertising, SPAM, and viruses? Come to
think of it, you do... :-)
Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support the
Lists?
Contribution Page:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Again, I want to say THANK YOU to everyone that has made a Contribution thus far
during this year's List Fund Raiser!! These Lists are made possible exclusively
through YOUR generosity!!
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
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Date:
Nov 18, 2007
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists...
Just a reminder that November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution
today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these great
List services!! And pick up a really nice free gift with your qualifying Contribution
too!
The Contribution Site is fast and easy:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Nov 20, 2007
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
[Please Read] Why I Have A Fund Raiser...
Dear Listers,
Each year I like to explain why I have a Fund Raiser and also take the opportunity
to express why I think the List Services here provide a superior experience
over the commercial equivalents.
I use the List Fund Raiser each year to offset the costs involved with running
a high performance email list site such as this one. With the annual support from
the List members through the PBS-like Fund Raiser, I have found I can run
the entire site without having to inflect any of the members with those annoying
banner ads flashing up all the time trying to sell little-blue-pills or other
garbage nobody wants or needs. From the comments I've received over the years
regarding the Lists, the great majority of the members really appreciate the
non-commercialism of my List systems and don't mind my 'go-team-go' banter once
a year during November to encourage members to support the Lists.
I believe that the Lists services that I provide here offer many benefits over
the commercial equivalents in a number of ways. The first feature I believe to
be significant is that you cannot receive a computer v*rus from any of these
Lists directly. Each incoming message is filtered and dangerous attachments stripped
off prior to posting. I also provide a Photo and File Share feature that
allows members to share files and bitmaps with other members and everyone can
be assured that these files will be prescanned for any sort of v*rus before
they are posted. More recently, I have enabled limited posting of a number of
file formats including pictures and PDFs.
Another very important feature of this system in my opinion is the extensive List
Archives that are available for download, browsing, and searching. The Archives
go all the way back to the very beginning of each List and with the very
fast Search Engine, the huge size of some of the Archives is a non-issue in quickly
finding the data you're looking for.
And added just a couple of years ago is the new Email List Forum that allows members who prefer the Web BBS-style of List interaction. The beauty of the new List Forums is that they contain the exact same content that is distributed via email. Messages posted via email are cross-posted to the respective Forum and vice versa. The Forums also allow for another convenient method of sharing pictures and other files (http://forums.matronics.com ). Additionally, added recently is the List Wiki that allows members to build their own "Online List Encyclopedia" of sorts, documenting various aspects of their project for all to share ( http://wiki.matronics.com ).
I've been running email Lists and services under the matronics.com domain since
about 1989 starting with RV-List and 30 guys I knew and who where also building
RVs. It has grown into nearly 70 different aviation-related Email Lists and
an associated web site that receives over 34,000,000 hits each year!! Additionally,
the List Email system forwarded well over 77,000 postings last year, accounting
for an unbelievable 33,000,000 (yes, that's 33 MILLION) email messages
delivered to Matronics List subscribers! I think there's a lot of value in supporting
a service that has gone the long haul and is still providing and improving
a high quality service all _without any advertising budget_!
I have to admit running these Lists is a labor of love and I hope it shows in the
quality of the experience that you receive when you get a List Email Message,
Search the Archives, use the List Browser, or surf the Forums and Wiki sites.
The Lists will be here for a long time to come. If you just want to lurk a
while for free, that's great and I encourage you to do so. If you use, appreciate,
and receive value from these Lists, then please support them during the Annual
List Fund Raiser!
List Contribution Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Nov 22, 2007
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
What Are You Thankful For...?
Dear Listers,
Here in the United States, Thursday is our National day of Thanksgiving. Many
of us will be traveling to be with our families and friends to share in generous
feasts of plenty and giving thanks for many blessings that have been bestowed
upon us.
Many Listers have expressed over the last couple of weeks how thankful they are
for the Email Lists and Forums here on the Matronics servers and for all of the
assistance and comradery they have experienced being a part of the Lists.
One of my favorite kind of comments is when write to me and says something like,
"Its the first thing I do in the morning while I'm having my morning coffee!".
That's a wonderful tribute to the purpose and function of these Lists. Its
always great to hear I'm not the only one that jumps out of bed each morning
to check my List email!!
Won't you take a minute today and show your appreciation for these Lists and for
their continued operation and upgrade?
The List Contribution Site is:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you in advance for your kind consideration,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Nov 24, 2007
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
Comments
Dear Listers,
Below are a few more of the nice comments Listers have been making along with their
Contributions in support of the Lists this year. Please make your Contribution
today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these services.
Remember, there is _no advertising budget_ to keep these Lists funded. It is
solely through your generosity that they continue.
Please make a Contribution:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
------------------------------What Listers Are Saying------------------------------
The list has been invaluable in the building of my Zenith CH701.
George R
Thanks for keeping the lists a non-commercial venue for us
to gather and share knowledge.
Neal G
What a fantastic resource!
Ralph C
It's a pretty cheep troubleshooting tool with and unlimited
resource of personal knowledge.
Bruce G
A full house of Info & Ideas...
Ellery B
I really enjoy the Piet list.
Steven D
The Lists are an indispensable resource for those of us
building OBAM aircraft.
Bret S
..a great service.
Frank D
..all in all it is a great resource if you ask specific
questions.
Richard S
Your list has really helped me in my first build.
Michael W
Always a pleasure to support this great resource...
Richard W
I enjoy the lists very much, they are very beneficial.
Bob L
Great place to chat with other builders and Flyers.
Ellery B
Your lists are a great service to builders and owners!
Richard D
A real good place for someone that is starting to get
interested into flying without investing any money at
first.
Ellery B
The list has been an great help to my building process.
David B
I'm close to finishing my Zenith 601 thanks to you and
the Zenith List.
Jeff D
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Nov 26, 2007
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published
Dec 1!
Dear Listers,
The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! On December 1st I post
a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists.
Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their
appreciation for the Lists.
As a number of people have pointed out in their Contribution comments, these Lists
seems at least as valuable of a building/flying/recreating tool as a typical
your magazine subscription! And how interactive is a magazine, after all?
Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists
is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
USA
(Please include your email address on the check!)
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps
these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment
about how the Lists have helped you!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Nov 27, 2007
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
[Please Read] What are "The Lists" and Who's This Matt
Dralle?
Dear Listers,
Who is Matt Dralle and what exactly are these Lists? Well, I've been working in
the information technology industry for nearly 25 years primarily in computer
networking design and implementation. I have also done extensive work in web
development and CGI design during that time, along with some embedded system
development as well.
I started the Matronics Email Lists back in 1990 with about 30 fellow RV builders
from around the world. Since that time, I have added 63 other kinds of aircraft
related Lists to the line up and numerous other List related services such
as the Forums, Wiki, Archives and Search Engine just to name a few.
For flexibility and reliability, I have chosen to run all of my own servers here
locally. Other List-related systems include a 1 Gigabit, fully switched network
infrastructure, a commercial-grade Netscreen firewall, a Barracuda spam filter,
a local T1 Internet router, and a commercial-grade business T1 Internet
connection with full static addressing.
The computer servers found here include a quad-processor Xeon Linux server for
List web services, a dual-processor Xeon Linux system dedicated to the email processing
List functions, and another P4 Linux system serving as a remote storage
disk farm for the archives, databases, and for an on-line hard drive-based
backup system with 3.2 Terra Bytes of storage! This entire system is protected
by three large, commercial-grade uninterrupted power supply (UPS) systems that
assure the Lists are available even during a local power outage! Speaking
of power, imagine how much electricity it takes to run all of these systems. One
month last Summer, I had a staggering $1368 bill for electricity alone!
I recently upgraded all of the computer racking infrastructure including new power
feeds and dedicated air conditioning for the room that serves as the Computer
Center for the Matronics Email Lists. Last year I added another rack to
house the MONSTER quad-processor web system that didn't quite fit into the first
rack! Here's a composite photo of the List Computer Center before the addition
of the second rack:
http://www.matronics.com/MattDralle-ListComputerCenter.jpg
As you can see, I take running these Lists very seriously and I am dedicated to
providing an always-on, 24x7x365 experience for each and every Lister.
But building and running this system isn't cheap. As I've stated before, I don't
support any of these systems with commercial advertising on the Lists. It is
supported 100% through List member Contributions! That means you... and you...
and YOU!
To that end, I hold a List Fund Raiser each November and ask that members make
a small Contribution to support the continued operation and upgrade of this ever-expanding
system. Its solely YOUR Contributions that keeps it running!
Won't you please take a moment to make a Contribution to support these Lists!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
USA
(Please include your email address on the check!)
There are some great gifts available with qualifying Contribution levels too!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Nov 28, 2007
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
Wow! A Ton of Comments!
Dear Listers,
I've been getting a ton of great comments from Listers along with their List Support
Contributions lately! I've shared a bunch more below. Please read over
some of them and see what your fellow Listers think of the Lists and Forums.
There are just a couple more days left before the official end of this year's Fund
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Subject:
Re: Flying without a Sport Pilot License?
From:
"Dana" <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net>
Date:
Dec 13, 2007
George Alexander wrote:
> ...(can't remember
> the 7th- someone probably does because I think the "7" were supposedly
> standard in cases involving fat ULs. Probably no endorsement/sign-off in
> type).
>
Typically in any enforcement action, they always throw in "Careless or Reckless
operation", like the proverbial cherry on top.
They can fine you around $1000 for each violation, per flight, which could really
add up if you show them your logbook. Often you can bargain them down, "I'll
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don't make that much money in a year,", etc., and get it down to a few hundred
dollars, if you don't go in with an attitude.
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Date:
Mar 27, 2008
From:
Mr Rudder <mr_rudder(at)aviaportal.net>
Subject:
Good evening
Hello there fellow aviation enthusiasts!
Please allow me to introduce a new website geared towards bringing
pilots and non-pilots, hobbyists and professionals, together.
HTTP://AVIAPORTAL.NET
Our aim is to help aviators socialize, discuss and enjoy everything about wings
and the sky.
My friends and I developed this non-profit site with the goal to give back to and
support the aviation community. We thought this would be best accomplished
by providing a medium for members to share and discuss their passion through
various features. This website is user-friendly and absolutely free of charge.
Get the latest news and reports from the aviation world, as well as the following
features that the website offers.
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and tricks about numerous aviation topics. We also have a free classified section
to post items for sale or wanting to buy.
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here are endless, but lets keep it clean!
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post about anything, anytime.
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Have blue skies,
Rudolph
--
Best regards,
Mr Rudder
mr_rudder(at)aviaportal.net
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Mar 28, 2008
From:
jerb <ulflyer(at)verizon.net>
Subject:
Good evening - Blog List
Interesting - two similar post for new sites by two different
addresses having a sign off "have blue skies".
jerb
At 09:16 PM 3/27/2008, you wrote:
>
> Hello there fellow aviation enthusiasts!
>
>Please allow me to introduce a new website geared towards bringing
>pilots and non-pilots, hobbyists and professionals, together.
>HTTP://AVIAPORTAL.NET
>
> Our aim is to help aviators socialize, discuss and enjoy
> everything about wings and the sky.
>My friends and I developed this non-profit site with the goal to
>give back to and support the aviation community. We thought this
>would be best accomplished by providing a medium for members to
>share and discuss their passion through various features. This
>website is user-friendly and absolutely free of charge.
>Get the latest news and reports from the aviation world, as well as
>the following features that the website offers.
>
>Forums: these offer members the opportunity to post information,
>stories, tips and tricks about numerous aviation topics. We also
>have a free classified section to post items for sale or wanting to buy.
>
>Chat: chatting is live one-on-one discussion with other
>members. The possibilities here are endless, but let's keep it clean!
>
>Blog: blogging gives members the opportunity to randomly post
>thoughts, ideas, stories and commentaries without the structure of
>forums. Members are free to post about anything, anytime.
>
>Photo Album: members are allowed to post up to 50 MB of
>pictures. So let's see your planes, your projects and whatever else
>you have captured with your camera.
>
>Groups: this feature offers the option to create groups based on
>common interests. The groups can be private or public,
>goal-oriented or just for fun. Just a place to get together with
>aviator friends.
>
>Virtual events: have an upcoming event? This feature allows members
>to advertise for their future events, as well as report on past
>events. Posts can be accompanied by pictures.
>
>Messages: e-mail other aviation buffs with this feature, as long as
>mail recipients are aviaportal.net members.
>
>Whether you're interested in commercial or general aviation, light
>sport or ultralights, a career or a hobby, an interest or a passion,
>this website has something for you. Log on to
>http://aviaportal.net to sign up, and explore new heights.
>
>Have blue skies,
>
>Rudolph
>
>
>--
>Best regards,
>Mr Rudder
>mr_rudder(at)aviaportal.net
>
>
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Subject:
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Subject:
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Subject:
Challenger long wing weight and ballance
From:
"kmccune" <kmccune(at)somtel.net>
Date:
Jul 17, 2008
Hi guys,
My buddy has built a long wing Challenger, he went for as light as possible so
he does not have a fiberglass nose cone and the engine is a 503. I sat in front
the other day and even when you push the nose down it popped back up. He says
its designed around a about a 200 lb person and the min pilot weight from his
W&B is 185. Well I know I'm not a heavy weight at 165 but it seems strange to
me that an airplane that needs a pilot in the cabin in order to sit level would
have this kind of a design goal. As it is if I want to fly it I'll have to
wear a dive belt! I know too that with the engine running the front comes down.
But it seems like it would not be very stable in the air like this unless you
were 200lbs?
Kevin
--------
Mark Twain: Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that
you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail
away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream.
Discover.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=193323#193323
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Jul 17, 2008
From:
LarryMcFarland <larry(at)macsmachine.com>
Subject:
Re: Challenger long wing weight and ballance
Kevin,
For that type of problem, the helicopters use a movable weight to
compensate for the sensitive weight and balance. This would probably
work for the Challenger as well. A bag of lead shot would do.
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
kmccune wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
> My buddy has built a long wing Challenger, he went for as light as possible so
he does not have a fiberglass nose cone and the engine is a 503. I sat in front
the other day and even when you push the nose down it popped back up. He says
its designed around a about a 200 lb person and the min pilot weight from
his W&B is 185. Well I know I'm not a heavy weight at 165 but it seems strange
to me that an airplane that needs a pilot in the cabin in order to sit level
would have this kind of a design goal. As it is if I want to fly it I'll have
to wear a dive belt! I know too that with the engine running the front comes down.
But it seems like it would not be very stable in the air like this unless
you were 200lbs?
>
> Kevin
>
> --------
> Mark Twain: Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things
that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail
away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream.
Discover.
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject:
Re: Challenger long wing weight and ballance
From:
"kmccune" <kmccune(at)somtel.net>
Date:
Jul 17, 2008
Oh man, I'll never live it down!
Thanks for the reply Larry!
Kevin
--------
Mark Twain: Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that
you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail
away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream.
Discover.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=193448#193448
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Jul 18, 2008
From:
Gary Gower <ggower_99(at)yahoo.com>
Subject:
Re: Challenger long wing weight and ballance
Kevin,
-
Is VERY IMPORTANT- to have the correct weight and balance in any airplane
,- Check closely with the manuals (or call the kit factory)- about the
envelope.--- But any weight and bamance that is- AFT- outside par
amenters- is very dangerous--- a- potencial- danger of-accide
ntal stall and or spin.-- Worse in low altitude as when you are ready t
o land.
-
Get it check until satisfied- before atempting to fly it.
-
Saludos
Gary Gower
Flying from Chapala, Mexico.
--- On Thu, 7/17/08, kmccune wrote:
From: kmccune <kmccune(at)somtel.net>
Subject: Ultralight-List: Challenger long wing weight and ballance
Date: Thursday, July 17, 2008, 8:22 AM
Hi guys,
My buddy has built a long wing Challenger, he went for as light as possible
so
he does not have a fiberglass nose cone and the engine is a 503. I sat in f
ront
the other day and even when you push the nose down it popped back up. He sa
ys
its designed around a about a 200 lb person and the min pilot weight from h
is
W&B is 185. Well I know I'm not a heavy weight at 165 but it seems
strange to me that an airplane that needs a pilot in the cabin in order to
sit
level would have this kind of a design goal. As it is if I want to fly it
I'll have to wear a dive belt! I know too that with the engine running the
front comes down. But it seems like it would not be very stable in the air
like
this unless you were 200lbs?
Kevin
--------
Mark Twain: Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the thin
gs
that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines.
Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explor
e.
Dream. Discover.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=193323#193323
============0A=0A=0A
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"pj.ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com>
Subject:
Re: Challenger long wing weight and ballance
Date:
Jul 18, 2008
when you push the nose down it popped back up>>
Hi,
this is standard on the Challenger. I ran mine in the UK for several years
and I always understood that the rule of thumb, not to take the place of a
proper weight and balance calc., was that if the nose was on the ground with
a pilot in and the engine running that weas good enough for jazz.
Mine was totally docile, would only mush when the nose was pulled up to a
stall amd would side slip like crazy.
My only problem was that the drive belt failed twice. It just shed its
teeth. Each time I put her down with no trouble
Pat
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject:
Re: Challenger long wing weight and ballance
From:
"kmccune" <kmccune(at)somtel.net>
Date:
Jul 18, 2008
Yes it is, I have just never experienced one that needs a min pilot weight to
get the nose wheel to touch! It kinda freaked me out!
Kevin
[quote="ggower_99(at)yahoo.com"]Kevin,
Is VERY IMPORTANT to have the correct weight and balance in any airplane, Check
closely with the manuals (or call the kit factory) about the envelope.
But any weight and bamance that is AFT outside paramenters is very dangerous
a potencial danger of accidental stall and or spin. Worse in low altitude
as when you are ready to land.
Get it check until satisfied before atempting to fly it.
Saludos
Gary Gower
Flying from Chapala, Mexico.
--- On Thu, 7/17/08, kmccune wrote:
[quote]From: kmccune
Subject: Challenger long wing weight and ballance
Date: Thursday, July 17, 2008, 8:22 AM
> [b]
--------
Mark Twain: Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that
you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail
away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream.
Discover.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=193684#193684
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject:
Re: Challenger long wing weight and ballance
From:
"George Alexander" <gtalexander(at)att.net>
Date:
Jul 18, 2008
A member of the USUA club I used to belong to, flew a QS Sprint. It took: a 20#
dive belt around her waist, 10# exercise weights on each ankle and 30#'s of
shot in the overstuffed seat cushion she used to get to the recommended pilot
weight of 170#. (I think I remember the numbers... If not exact, they are very
close.)
The attached image is of her in flight.... the only obvious thing in this image
is how high she is sitting. (Considering that she is about 5 feet nothing tall.)
kmccune wrote:
> Yes it is, I have just never experienced one that needs a min pilot weight to
get the nose wheel to touch! It kinda freaked me out!
>
>
> (((((SNIP))))
>
>
--------
George Alexander
FS II R503 N709FS
http://gtalexander.home.att.net
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Subject:
Re: Challenger long wing weight and ballance
From:
"kmccune" <kmccune(at)somtel.net>
Date:
Jul 19, 2008
Well I guess I'll have to let myself go if I want to fly a Challenger!
Kevin
--------
Mark Twain: Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that
you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail
away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream.
Discover.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=193782#193782
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"pj.ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com>
Subject:
Re: Challenger long wing weight and ballance
Date:
Jul 19, 2008
Well I guess I'll have to let myself go if I want to fly a Challenger!>>
Hi Kevin,
thats a pleasant way to go.
Gliders in Clubs are always running into this problem. C of G ranges seem
to be a bit more proscribed than with power and with different club
members, particulaly the lightweight women, constantly using the gliders it
can be a problem. The problem is worse with the training gliders are members
usually only get one or two flights before the next member on the list
wants to fly.
My old club solved it by each of the lightweights having their own leadlined
cushion to sit on to bring the C of G into line.
I have a lump of lead in the Kolb and I had some rolled round a forward
crossmember and fixed with jubilee clips in the Challenger. No problem
Pat
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject:
Re: Challenger long wing weight and ballance
From:
"kmccune" <kmccune(at)somtel.net>
Date:
Jul 19, 2008
Thanks for all the replies guys, my reason for posting was that I was concerned
that something was not right, but apparently everything if normal.
Kevin
--------
Mark Twain: Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that
you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail
away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream.
Discover.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=193822#193822
________________________________________________________________________________
Subject:
Re: Challenger long wing weight and ballance
From:
"Ratman" <johnandme(at)aol.com>
Date:
Sep 03, 2008
pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com wrote:
> if the nose was on the ground with
> a pilot in and the engine running that weas good enough for jazz.
>
> Pat
Just to clear this up a bit, if the nose gear remains on the ground WITHOUT the
engine running means that the CG is not aft. It could very well be too far forward
in this condition but a proper weight and balance computation would need
to be done to determine this. A W&B worksheet can be had on the flychallenger
yahoo egroup.
It may appear that I am being picky about this but, if you assume the CG is correct
with the engine running, and then loose power with aft CG in flight the likelyhood
of stall recovery becomes an issue.
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Subject:
Re: Challenger long wing weight and ballance
From:
"kmccune" <kmccune(at)somtel.net>
Date:
Sep 03, 2008
I do not think your being picky at all. You seem to mirror my initial concern.
He has since flown with a Challenger pilot, who also happens to fly 747s. The
"Heavy" pilot feels all is well. So I guess I'll start eating.
Kevin
--------
Mark Twain: Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that
you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail
away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream.
Discover.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 2453#202453
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Subject:
Project Almost Done - Cleaning House...
Date:
Sep 04, 2008
From:
"Don Honabach" <don(at)pcperfect.com>
After over 10 years I'm almost done with my Zodiac 601HDS project (yes,
HDS) and I'm cleaning out/selling off the extras to make a little piece
in the family...
I've put up 2 Electric Gyros Indicators on eBay if anyone is interested:
RCA15AK-1 14V Electric Directional Gyro (Lighted)
http://tinyurl.com/6n66vm
RCA26AK-1 14V Electric Attitude Indicator Gyro (Lighted)
http://tinyurl.com/5nnfuu
Both are brand new, have zero hours and were bought at R.C. Allen Booth
at Oshkosh.
Don Honabach
Tempe, AZ
601HDS
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From:
"pj.ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com>
Subject:
Re: Challenger long wing weight and ballance
Date:
Sep 05, 2008
It may appear that I am being picky about this but, if you assume the CG is
correct with the engine running, and then loose power with aft CG in flight
the likelyhood of stall recovery becomes an issue.>>
Hi,
I wouldn`t disagree strongly with that but with or without the engine
running if the front wheel is on the ground with the pilot in place thats
pretty close. If you have trouble getting the nose down in either condition
stick some weight in the nose. I added some sheet lead wrapped around the
transvers spacer carrying the pedals (I thinK its been a long time) just
below the point of the nose, I had the old chisel nose model,. Just wrapped
several leaves on held with some jubilee clips.
I lost engine power twice, both times through the teeth of the main prop
drive belt stripping, so the prop stopped producing thrust even though the
engine was runningand had no problems landing.
Best course is do a proper C of G calc. The one in the building manual works
fine.
Cheers
Pat
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From:
EMAproducts(at)aol.com
Date:
Sep 06, 2008
Subject:
Re: Ultralight-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 09/05/08
In a message dated 9/6/2008 12:00:38 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
ultralight-list(at)matronics.com writes:
Re: Challenger long wing weight and balance
This is not to downgrade anybody, but to insure you are SAFE !
ANY ONE who flies an aircraft without doing a weight and balance on it prior
is committing Russian Roulette.
A friend who is a test pilot said some certified aircraft if only 1/4 " aft
of CG would not recover from spin. Do they pay you enough to be a test
pilot? Just what is your life worth.
The manufactures provide weight and balance information ~~ they don't want
their aircraft involved in an accident or incident use it. If you don't
have their information Call them, like I said "Just what is your life worth"!
If you need help doing a weight and balance and can't find anybody locally,
let me know, I can explain how easy enough, been doing them for about 48
years.
Elbie
Elbie Mendenhall
CFI 1513655 since 1962; ASMEL, A&I
ATP CE-500, B-737, DC-9
46 years of flying both work & play
EAA 38308 EAA Flight Advisor
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Date:
Oct 06, 2008
Subject:
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From:
techauthors(at)msn.com
Subject:
Experimental aircraft for sale
Date:
Nov 03, 2008
General:
* This plan was completed from a factory kit in 2002.
* It is a single place heavy ultralight which has been licensed as "Ex
perimental" with an
FAA "N" number.
* As a "Arrow" model, it has heavy, covered
wings top and bottom, a curved windshield,
a curved overhead (which gives more head room), streamlined struts
and larger than
normal wheels and tires.
* All coverd areas are covered in a Dacron
material.
* The CGS Hawk is purported to be extremely
strong, well designed and among the most
responsive of all the ultralights. It has won
several ultralight flight competitions.
Power System:
* The engine is an extremely reliable four stroke cycle, 3 cylinder
, 1998 Suzuki.
* The engine develops 62 HP according to
Raven Redrive specs.
* The engine has 23,000 land miles on it and
34.9 hours on the plane's meter.
* Most of the 34.9 hours were on the ground while installing and calibr
aating the
electronic fuel injection system.
* A Raven Redrive reduction system is
installed.
* A 72", ground adjustable, IVO propeller is
installed.
Aircraft Specs:
* Empty weight with fuel, water in radiator, oil
is 500 Pounds.
* Gross weight allowed 800 pounds.
* The C.G. is 33.6%. The factory
recommended C.G. is 32-39%.
* Takeoff speed is 35 MPH.
* Stall speed is 30 MPH.
* Approach speed 45 MPH.
* Landing speed 40-45 MPH
* Climb speed is 60 MPH.
* Cruise speed is 65-70 MPH.
I have all the maintenance and flight logs. I also
have the plans, the construction manual and
annual imspection forms for this plane.
I am 77 years old. My health and family
concerns are my reason for selling this
aircraft. I have proof that I have spent over
$20,000 on this plane. I am asking $15,000, or
make an offer. Phone (269)-324-5803
Call or e-mail me for more photos.
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________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Nov 05, 2008
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
List Fund Raiser
A couple of years ago I implemented an automatic "squelch button" of sorts for
the Fund Raiser messages. Here's how it works... As soon as a List member makes
a
Contribution through the Matronics Fund Raiser web site, he or she will instantly
cease to receive these Fund Raiser messages for the rest of the month! Its
just that simple. Don't you wish PBS worked that way! :-)
I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support
the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware
and
software that are required to run a List Site like this. It also goes to pay for
the commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the huge electric bill
to
keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered on. I run all of
the Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which allows me to
control and monitor every aspect of the system for the utmost in reliably and performance.
Your personal Contribution matters because, when combined with other Listers such
as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up and running. I accept
exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand
the pop-up ads and all other commercials that are so prevalent on the Internet
these days and I particularly don't want to have it on my Email List sites.
If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email
Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
[Note that there are certain circumstances where you might still see a Contribution
related message. For example, if someone replies to one of the messages,
when using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum.
The system keys on the given email address and since most of these are
anonymous public access methods, there is no simple way to filter them.]
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"steve, ashley and corbin" <gobigred(at)sio.midco.net>
Subject:
Re: Ultralight-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 11/01/08
Date:
Nov 05, 2008
Please stop e-mailing
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ultralight-List Digest Server" <ultralight-list(at)matronics.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 12:58 AM
Subject: Ultralight-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 11/01/08
> *
>
> =================================================
> Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive
> =================================================
>
> Today's complete Ultralight-List Digest can also be found in either of the
> two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted
> in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes
> and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version
> of the Ultralight-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor
> such as Notepad or with a web browser.
>
> HTML Version:
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 08-11-01&Archive=Ultralight
>
> Text Version:
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 08-11-01&Archive=Ultralight
>
>
> ===============================================
> EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive
> ===============================================
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Ultralight-List Digest Archive
> ---
> Total Messages Posted Sat 11/01/08: 1
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Today's Message Index:
> ----------------------
>
> 1. 12:22 AM - Matronics Email List Fund Raiser During November!
> (dralle(at)matronics.com)
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 1
> _____________________________________
>
>
> From: dralle(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Ultralight-List: Matronics Email List Fund Raiser During
> November!
>
>
> Dear Listers,
>
> Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued
> operation
> and upgrade of the List services at Matronics. It's through soley through
> the
> Contributions of List members that these Matronics Lists are possible.
>
> You have probably noticed that there are no banner ads or pop-up windows
> on any of the Matronics Lists or related web sites such as the Forums site
> ( http://forums.matronics.com ), Wiki site ( http://wiki.matronics.com ),
> or other related pages such as the List Search Engine (
> http://www.matronics.com/search ), List Browse (
> http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse ), etc. This is because I believe in
> a List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely
> Airplanes and not about annoying advertisments.
>
> During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every few
> days
> reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. I ask for your
> patience
> and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular
> messages.
> The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all of
> the
> bills associated with running these lists. Your personal Contribution
> counts.
>
> Once again, this year I've got a terrific line up of free gifts to go
> along with
> the various Contribution levels. Most all of these gifts have been
> provided
> by some of the vary members and vendors that you'll find on Matronics
> Lists and
> have been either donated or provided at substantially discounted rates.
>
> This year, these generous people include Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric
> Connection (http://www.aeroelectric.com/), Andy Gold of the Builder's
> Bookstore (http://www.buildersbooks.com/), and Jon Croke of HomebuiltHELP
> (http://www.homebuilthelp.com/).
>
> These are extremely generous guys and I encourage you to visit their
> respective
> web sites. Each one offers a unique and very useful aviation-related
> product
> line. I would like publicly to thank Bob, Andy, and Jon for their
> generous support
> of the Lists again this year!!
>
> You can make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods
> this
> year including using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. All
> three methods
> afford you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with
> a qualifying Contribution amount!!
>
> To make your Contribution, please visit the secure site below:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
> I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND
> moral
> support over the years. I know it sounds a little cliche, but you guys
> really
> do feel like family.
>
> Thank you for your support!
>
> Matt Dralle
> Matronics Email List Administrator
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Nov 06, 2008
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
Reminder
Dear Listers,
Just a quick reminder that November is the annual List Fund Raiser. The Matronics
Lists are 100% member supported and all of the operational costs are provided
for my your Contributions during this time of the year.
Your personal Contribution makes a difference and keeps all of the Matronics Email
Lists and Forums completely ad-free.
Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you in advance!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Nov 10, 2008
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
Fund Raiser List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution
Today!
Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone
that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its sort of
my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Won't you take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors
(LOC)? As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems
at least - if not a whole lot more - valuable as a building/flying/recreating/entertainment
tool as your typical magazine subscription!
Please take minute and assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is
fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps
these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about
how the Lists have helped you!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Nov 12, 2008
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists
Dear Listers,
There is no advertising income to support the Matronics Email Lists and Forums.
The operation is supported 100% by your personal Contributions during the November
Fund Raiser.
Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade
of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution
too!
You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or, you can send a personal check to the following address:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore, CA 94551-0347
Thank you in advance for your generous support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
techauthors(at)msn.com
Subject:
CGS Hawk Heavy Ultralight for Sale
Date:
Nov 13, 2008
GENERAL:
* This plane was completed from a factory kit in 2002. It is a single place
, heavy ultralight which has been FAA licensed as an Experimental with an F
AA number. As an "Arrow" model, it has heavy, covered wings top and bottom,
a curved windshield, a curved overhead(which give more head room), streaml
ined struts, hydraulic brakes and larger tha normal wheels and tires.
* The CGS Hawk is purported to be extremely
strong, well designed and among the most responsive of all the ultralights.
POWER SYSTEM: The engine is a very reliable 4-stroke cycle, 3 cylinder 1998
Suzuki. It develops 62 HP according to Raven redrive specs. The engine has
23,00 land miles and 34.9 hours on the engine. Most of this time was added
while installing and adjusting the electronics fuel injuection system. A R
aven Redrive reduction system is installed with a 72"
IVO, ground adjustable propleller.
AIRCRAFT SPECS: Empty weight with oil, gas, water in radiator is 500 Pounds
. Gross allowable weight 800 Pounds. The CG is at 33.6%. The factory recomm
ended CG is 32-39%. Takeoff speed about 35 MPH, stall speed about 30 MPH, a
pprouch seed 45, landing speed 40-45, climb speed 60, cruise at 65-70.
Ihave all the maintenance and flight logs, plans, construction manual and i
nspection forms for this plane.
I am 77 and health and family concerns have ended my flight career.
Call for more photos or questions at:
(269)-324-5803.
William Bowditch
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________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Nov 14, 2008
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
Fund Raiser Lagging Last Year By Over 30%...
As of the 13th, the Fund Raiser is currently about 30% behind last year in terms
of the number of Contributions. Yet, oddly the number of messages posted per
day is up by 10 to 20% on the average. It costs real money to run these Lists
and they are supported 100% though your Contributions during the Fund Raiser.
Won't you please take a minute right now to make your Contribution to keep
these Lists up and running?
Contribution Page:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Nov 16, 2008
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
What's My Contribution Used For?
Dear Listers,
Some have asked, "What's my Contribution used for?" and that's a good question.
Here are just a few examples of what your direct List support enables. It provides
for the very expensive, commercial-grade T1 Internet connection used on
the List insuring maximum performance and minimal contention when accessing
List services. It pays for the regular system hardware and software upgrades
enabling the highest performance possible for services such as the Archive Search
Engine, List Browser, and Forums. It pays for 19+ years worth of online archive
data available for instant random search and access. And, it offsets the
many hours spent writing, developing, and maintaining the custom applications
that power this List Service such as the List Browse, Search Engine, Forums,
Wiki and PhotoShare.
But most importantly, your List Contribution enables a forum where you and your
peers can communicate freely in an environment that is free from moderation,
censorship, advertising, commercialism, SPAM, and computer viruses. How many
places on the Internet can you make all those statements these days?
It is YOUR CONTRIBUTION that directly enables these many aspects of these valuable
List services. Please support it today with your List Contribution. Its
one of the best investments you can make in your Sport...
List Contribution Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Nov 18, 2008
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
What Members Are Saying...
Dear Listers,
November is the Annual Matronics List Fund Raiser. The Lists are supported solely
through your generous Contributions during this time. Please make your Contribution
today and pick up a really nice free gift at this same time:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Listers have been including some really nice comments regarding what the Lists
mean to them along with their Contributions this year. I've included a few of
them below. Please read them over and see if some perhaps echo your feelings
as well.
Thank you for your support this year!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
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Best bargain in the entire industry!!
-Owen B
Every year your lists are better, sure #1 in e-mail list in the world.
-Gary G
Thank you for an awesome site!
-Ashley M
Your lists are important to me and well worth paying for.
-Calvin A
Thank you for providing such and informative and ad free environment
to learn by.
-Myron H
As always, a valuable and extremely useful resource.
Stephen T
As always, a great service.
-Reade G
Very much appreciate this site and the communications it has
enabled between builders.
-Larry M
This service is worth every penny.
-Robert S
Great site! Thanks a ton for its functionality!
-Peter B
The RV-10 list feels like my community.
-Dave S
The lists are fantastic, a great source!
-Jimmy Y
I've learned a lot from the List.
-Gabriel F
A wonderful resource.
-Gerald G
Well done.
-Richard N
Years of good service.
-William M
Valuable service.
-Keith H
The site is quite helpful.
-Jon M
Very interesting List that I read form the beginning.
-Alain L
A well managed site.
-Carl B
Great service.
-Svein Kare J
Still the most useful program on the computer.
-Fergus K
Great contribution to my project!
-Robert K
Thanks for keeping a great list.
-Dt G
The List continues to provide excellent information.
-Tony C
This is a wonderful resource that has easily saved me a bunch on
my build-time.
-Ralph C
Thank you for providing a great service. The Zenith builder's community
would be in sad shape without the Zenith-List's.
-Terrence P
I really do get pleasure out of reading the List every day.
-Bill V
Great source of information.
-Arthur V
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-Louis B
You know we all could not do without your support!!
-James S
Great resource!
-Douglas D
Thanks for the great service.
-John B
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Nov 20, 2008
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
Behind By 21% - Advertising May Be Needed...?
Dear Listers,
The percentage of people making a Contribution to support the Lists this year is
currently lagging behind last year by approximately 21%! I'm hoping that everyone
is just waiting until the last minute to show their support... ;-)
Please remember that it is solely your direct Contributions that keep these Lists
up and running and most importantly - AD FREE! If the members don't want to
support the Lists directly, then I will likely have to start adding advertisements
to offset the costs of running the Lists. But I *really* don't want to
have to start doing that. I really like the non-commercial atmosphere here and
I think that a lot of the members appreciate that too.
Please take a moment to make a Contribution today in support of the continued ad-free
operation of all these Lists:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
I want to send out a word of appreciation to all of the members that have already
made their generous Contribution to support the Lists! Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Nov 22, 2008
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
LOC
Dear Listers,
Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone
that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its sort
of my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Won't you take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors
(LOC)? As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems
at least - if not a whole lot more - valuable as a building/flying/recreating/entertainment
tool as your typical magazine subscription!
Please take minute and assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is
fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by popping a personal check in the mail to:
Matronics Email Lists
c/o Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps
these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about
how the Lists have helped you!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Nov 24, 2008
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
Value of the List...
If you look forward to checking your List email everyday (and a lot of you have
written to say that you do!), then you're probably getting at least $20 or $30
worth of Entertainment from the Lists each year. You'd pay twice that for a
subscription to some lame magazine or even just a single dinner out. Isn't the
List worth at least that much to you?
Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support the
Lists?
Contribution Page:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Again, I want to say THANK YOU to everyone that has made a Contribution thus far
during this year's List Fund Raiser!! These Lists are made possible exclusively
through YOUR generosity!!
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Nov 26, 2008
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
Just A Few More Days...
Dear Listers,
There are just a few more days left in this year's List Fund Raiser. There are
some great gifts available when you make a qualifying Contribution and there's
plenty still available. Don't forget that its *your* Contribution that keeps
the computers running, the electricity turned on, and the computer room AC cooling!
If you look forward to reading your List email each day, won't you please take
a minute right now to make your personal Contribution?
Credit Card or Paypal:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Personal Check:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore, CA 94550
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Nov 28, 2008
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
Just 3 Days Left - Please Make Your List Contribution
Today!
There are only three days left until the end of this year's List Fund Raiser.
Please take a minute to show your support as so many others have this year and
make sure YOUR name is on the forthcoming List of Contributors 2008!
Its quick and easy using the secure web site with a credit card or PayPal:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by sending your personal check to:
Matronics Lists c/o Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore, CA 94551-0347
(Please write your email address on the check!)
Thank you in advance for your support of these List services!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email and Forum Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Nov 29, 2008
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
What Listers Have Been Saying
Wow! Many of the members making a List Support Contribution this year have been
using the Comments field to leave a personal message about the Lists. Thank
you! I have included a number of them below. Please read over a few and see
if you perhaps can echo some of the same sentiments regarding the value of the
Lists to you...
There is only a couple more days left for this year's List Fund Raiser and we're
still way behind previous years. If you've been waiting until the last minute
to show your support, Now is the Time! Please make your Contribution and pick
up a great gift at the same time!
By Credit Card or Paypal:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or By Personal Check:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore, CA 94550-7227
Thank you in advance!!
Matt Dralle
Email List and Forums Administrator
Here is some of the great feedback members have been including along with their
personal Contributions this year...
Over the years, the info I have received from the RV-List has
saved me thousands of dollars, and dozens of hours of time by
helping me avoid bad purchases, pointing me at vendors with
low prices and excellent support, and providing solutions to
the typical head scratchers that you run into.
Kevin H
Valuable service. Best List(s) on the Internet!
George A